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| 00:02.04 | abrotman | adama: you could try changing fonts |
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| 00:03.14 | cire | I set up a cups server and installed a printer. Cups is able to print. I followed a howto and added some lines to smb.conf to be able to print via samba from remote hosts. I find the printer, but printing results in nothing happening. |
| 00:03.17 | adama | damn I just started the System/Preferences/Theme thing and it made all my fonts grow like 5 points ....still no degrees symbol tho... |
| 00:03.39 | lfs | After surfing the net apparently running Java on AMD64 is a pain in ass. |
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| 00:05.05 | adama | changed from Sans to Nimbus Sans L, no dice |
| 00:05.56 | adama | nope nothing, all fonts do the same thing |
| 00:06.48 | amphi | adama: do you see this degree symbol? ° |
| 00:06.56 | adama | yep that one's find |
| 00:06.59 | adama | fine* |
| 00:07.08 | adama | I gotta take off, I'll mess with it later |
| 00:07.10 | adama | thanks! |
| 00:07.51 | lfs | If Java code can run on Debian why is a 64 bit verson so hard? |
| 00:08.34 | Gnurdux | i think Sun hasnt ported it to 64bit |
| 00:08.57 | superfirelord42 | Gnurdux: it is... its avalible on suns site.... |
| 00:09.10 | Gnurdux | the plugin, superfirelord42 ? |
| 00:09.24 | Gnurdux | im pretty sure the 64bit jre doesnt include the plugin |
| 00:09.29 | Gnurdux | not the official sun one |
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| 00:09.33 | superfirelord42 | really? |
| 00:09.36 | lfs | IT is all one big pain |
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| 00:09.46 | superfirelord42 | wow.... why would it not? |
| 00:09.59 | lfs | I just want to run aptitude Install-damn-thing and that is it. |
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| 00:11.19 | lfs | java version "1.5.0" |
| 00:11.19 | lfs | gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.3.1 |
| 00:12.14 | abrotman | lfs: i've asked you multiple times if you have "/msg dpkg install java" yet |
| 00:12.15 | abrotman | have you? |
| 00:12.27 | lfs | Yes I read it. |
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| 00:14.20 | abrotman | lfs: did you read the whole thing? |
| 00:14.41 | lfs | It isn't very long |
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| 00:15.56 | abrotman | the part about the sun plugins ? |
| 00:16.38 | lfs | Not sure I understood that part, but I have no plugins |
| 00:17.10 | kazol | Has anyone here installed "php5-xcache"? |
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| 00:17.43 | wols | !anypme |
| 00:17.44 | lfs | Shouldn't the web browser show some free java plugins? |
| 00:18.04 | kazol | wols: Could I download it from http://packages.debian.org/unstable/web/php5-xcache or do I need the backport? |
| 00:18.20 | wols | what debian do you run? |
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| 00:18.35 | wols | !tell lfs about java |
| 00:18.52 | kazol | wols: Etch |
| 00:19.15 | wols | then you never use anything from unstable |
| 00:19.22 | wols | either backport, sid backport or nothing |
| 00:19.50 | lfs | I understand that java works 32 bit systems on Debian? |
| 00:20.05 | lfs | For web browsers? |
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| 00:20.34 | superfirelord42 | yup, correct |
| 00:20.48 | curtmack | does anyone here know how to switch from gnome-screensaver to xscreensaver? |
| 00:20.51 | lfs | Does one need non-free Java for web browsers? |
| 00:21.06 | kazol | wols: Should I install this?: http://packages.debian.org/etch-backports/php5-xcache |
| 00:21.39 | abrotman | lfs: TBH .. i've never tried without .. but the one i have from sun does work |
| 00:22.12 | lfs | I think AMD64 is even problem for non-free from what I read. |
| 00:22.19 | kazol | wols: And if I add "deb http://www.backports.org/debian etch-backports main" to /etc/apt/sources.list would I have to resinstall Debian again? |
| 00:23.00 | wols | kazol: no, backports don't mean you have to reinstall |
| 00:23.12 | kazol | good |
| 00:26.22 | kazol | wols: Why are the following dependencies installed too, even though I don't use apache?: apache-common apache2-utils libapache-mod-php5 |
| 00:26.43 | wols | was libapache2-mod-php5 installed? |
| 00:26.55 | wols | kazol: dpkg -l |grep apache |
| 00:27.32 | kazol | wols: Nothing is displayed; I use lighttpd, not apache. |
| 00:27.38 | LieZ^ | anyone use proftpd? |
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| 00:28.46 | wols | !anyone use proftpd |
| 00:28.47 | dpkg | No, no one uses proftpd, not even the people who use it. |
| 00:28.56 | kazol | wols: Should I just install it? |
| 00:29.01 | wols | kazol: cause it installs what the dependencies say |
| 00:29.24 | wols | kazol: check if the xcacher even works with cgi php5 |
| 00:29.28 | kazol | wols: But isn't apache-common the actual apache application? |
| 00:29.41 | wols | no |
| 00:29.57 | kazol | wols: I'm following this article, which claims it works with lighttpd: http://joshhuckabee.com/drupal-lighttpd-and-xcache-debian-2 |
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| 00:31.22 | linkmaster03 | Hey guys, how can I fix this apt-get problem? It appeared when I added the backports repo to sources.list: W: GPG error: http://www.backports.org etch-backports Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY EA8E8B2116BA136C |
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| 00:32.04 | LieZ^ | !anyone use proftpd |
| 00:32.05 | dpkg | No, no one uses proftpd, not even the people who use it. |
| 00:32.36 | wols | linkmaster03: you can fix by actually reading instructions. great skill that |
| 00:32.42 | abrotman | linkmaster03: read the instructions at backports.org |
| 00:32.43 | kazol | Actually proftpd is popular...I'm not sure why. |
| 00:33.07 | kazol | linkmaster03: import the GPG key. |
| 00:33.51 | kazol | wols: I'll just install it. |
| 00:33.54 | linkmaster03 | lol, sorry guys |
| 00:34.00 | linkmaster03 | i use proftpd btw |
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| 01:00.53 | bujin | hi |
| 01:00.56 | Garda | when i increase pcm volume in volume control i get heaps of distortion |
| 01:01.10 | bujin | somebody knows how to install an atheros card? |
| 01:01.15 | Garda | but increasing master volume doesn't create a problem |
| 01:01.18 | Garda | anyone know why? |
| 01:01.37 | simonrvn | same thing here |
| 01:01.45 | simonrvn | i just play with master |
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| 01:03.12 | abrotman | bujin: /msg dpkg madwifi install |
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| 01:04.48 | bujin | abrotman, i did aptitude install madwifi and it seems to be installd |
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| 01:05.06 | bujin | but i dont see the ath_pci module qhen i do lsmod |
| 01:05.11 | abrotman | bujin: /msg dpkg madwifi install |
| 01:05.24 | abrotman | read the whole thing |
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| 01:06.30 | Nyle | well |
| 01:06.51 | Nyle | if anyone wants to know, that cd I tested under vista today, it works, and under xp, but under debian it won't even mount |
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| 01:07.04 | Nyle | so its not a bad burn as suggested last night |
| 01:07.21 | Nyle | (as I tried this in an old xp machine as well with a 6 year old cd rom drive) |
| 01:07.32 | htmlol | well alright I know I've asked already today but- |
| 01:07.42 | amphi | Nyle: some non-standard redmondian fs, perhaps |
| 01:08.00 | htmlol | does anybody know of any _specific_ PCI wireless cards that work perfectly with debian? |
| 01:08.33 | abrotman | there are many |
| 01:09.04 | htmlol | ooooo wow this site is great |
| 01:09.05 | htmlol | http://users.linpro.no/janl/hardware/wifi.html |
| 01:09.10 | htmlol | exactly what I was looking for |
| 01:09.28 | htmlol | I may be going with the Netget WG311T |
| 01:09.43 | Nyle | amphi, thats what I said was probably the vista fucking it up |
| 01:09.47 | htmlol | Netgear* |
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| 01:11.55 | amphi | Nyle: serve you right |
| 01:12.02 | bujin | abrotman, I did it .. now? |
| 01:12.10 | abrotman | it should have installed the driver |
| 01:12.38 | bujin | abrotman, yeah and ath_pci is loaded |
| 01:12.53 | bujin | but i dont see the interface in ifconfig output |
| 01:13.04 | amphi | ifconfig -a ? |
| 01:13.14 | amphi | ath0 I expect |
| 01:14.03 | bujin | naw i just have eth0 and wlan0 |
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| 01:14.38 | bujin | ok i got it with wlan0 |
| 01:14.44 | htmlol | how does madwifi work? |
| 01:14.45 | abrotman | do that many people at oracle really use debian ? |
| 01:14.52 | bujin | i could make a scan |
| 01:14.59 | bujin | but why i dont have ath0 ? |
| 01:16.02 | amphi | udev? |
| 01:16.38 | abrotman | bujin: dmesg ? |
| 01:17.32 | bujin | abrotman, i used to have this cofigured as ath0 |
| 01:17.44 | bujin | abrotman, but i can deal with wlan0 anyway |
| 01:17.54 | abrotman | is it there at all ? |
| 01:17.55 | bujin | abrotman, is it the same rite? |
| 01:18.17 | abrotman | iwlist <device> scanning .. check to see if it works |
| 01:18.36 | bujin | abrotman, yeah it works using iwlist wlan0 scan |
| 01:18.54 | abrotman | okay .. weird .. but okay |
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| 01:32.21 | bujin | abrotman how can i set the wep encryption |
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| 01:32.58 | abrotman | bujin: man wireless |
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| 01:37.32 | bahadunn | anyone have a problem with pbuilder downloading Release file? |
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| 01:39.50 | unreal-dude | is there a way to setup key combos to switch keyboard layouts in debian? |
| 01:44.48 | bujin | http://pastebin.com/m4d901048 |
| 01:44.58 | bujin | any body knows why i get this error? http://pastebin.com/m4d901048 |
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| 01:47.49 | bujin | http://pastebin.com/m4d901048 |
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| 01:49.24 | dondelelcaro | bujin: please don't repeat, and it's probably because the format for the key is wrong. man iwconfig for details. |
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| 01:55.02 | bujin | dondelelcaro, the formar of the key is worn? |
| 01:55.05 | bujin | wrong? |
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| 01:57.24 | htmlol | :o |
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| 02:00.55 | elmarian6 | hello |
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| 02:02.46 | elmarian6 | i do backups with rsync |
| 02:02.50 | elmarian6 | and today |
| 02:02.58 | elmarian6 | i tried to restore some files |
| 02:03.11 | elmarian6 | and i cant get the correct owner |
| 02:03.31 | elmarian6 | the remote strorage server stores it as someuser, not the correct one |
| 02:03.41 | elmarian6 | i used -av switches to preserve ownership |
| 02:03.44 | elmarian6 | any adivce ? |
| 02:03.47 | bujin | how can install beryl? |
| 02:04.09 | abrotman | beryl is dead |
| 02:04.22 | bujin | abrotman, is dead? |
| 02:04.30 | abrotman | yes .. now compiz-fusion |
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| 02:05.04 | Nyle | hi |
| 02:05.15 | magyar | hi, is there any third party updates avail for sarge? |
| 02:05.50 | unixSnob | makes a note to avoid rsync |
| 02:06.54 | bujin | compiz-fusion? |
| 02:07.45 | Nyle | i need to convert every image inside a directory from jpg to png. for i in *.JPG; do convert $i |
| 02:07.52 | Nyle | what do I append after $i |
| 02:08.15 | Nyle | i can't seem to figure that one out |
| 02:08.17 | Sling | why not do find with -exec |
| 02:08.25 | Nyle | ok |
| 02:08.30 | buu | Nyle: Um. convert $i $i.jpg ? |
| 02:08.33 | amphi | Nyle: ${i/.JPG/.png} |
| 02:08.34 | buu | Er, |
| 02:08.36 | buu | Nyle: Um. convert $i $i.png |
| 02:08.43 | Nyle | find . |
| 02:08.43 | Nyle | oh |
| 02:08.45 | Nyle | its that simple? |
| 02:08.48 | Nyle | doh |
| 02:09.11 | amphi | buu: that'll give you foo.JPG.png |
| 02:09.50 | Nyle | amphi, word |
| 02:09.53 | bujin | how can i install compiz? |
| 02:10.15 | Nyle | wow its slow |
| 02:10.17 | Nyle | damn |
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| 02:10.29 | Nyle | oh crap |
| 02:11.07 | abrotman | enter key is sticking! |
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| 02:11.37 | Nyle | its creating freakin 7mb png files... |
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| 02:12.10 | abrotman | how big are the JPGs ? |
| 02:12.28 | amphi | bujin: are you on testing? |
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| 02:12.45 | Nyle | amphi, which compress type should I specify? do you know? |
| 02:12.55 | Nyle | -compress type None, BZip, Fax, Group4, JPEG, LZW, RunlengthEncoded, or Zip. |
| 02:13.13 | bujin | yeah |
| 02:13.16 | Nyle | hmm.. trying to figure out how to drop the file size |
| 02:13.17 | amphi | rle, heh - I believe lzw is the most common |
| 02:13.18 | bujin | yeah amphi |
| 02:13.44 | Nyle | does imagemagick have a frontend? |
| 02:13.50 | amphi | bujin: you can just install it - it's packaged |
| 02:13.55 | bujin | ok |
| 02:14.15 | amphi | Nyle: display, but it's just a viewer; not for this stuff |
| 02:14.36 | amphi | bujin: what video card do you have? |
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| 02:19.15 | bujin | ATI |
| 02:19.25 | bujin | amphi, ATI |
| 02:19.27 | bujin | why? |
| 02:19.45 | bujin | amphi, how can i configure the effects? |
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| 02:22.45 | amphi | bujin: ccsm |
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| 02:26.44 | GillaGal | Can anyone tell me how to get rid of displaying "Content-Type: text/html" on a Server Side Include? |
| 02:27.08 | Dewi | GillaGal: that sounds like an apache setting |
| 02:27.28 | Dewi | GillaGal: but that's a normal header to output |
| 02:27.35 | Dewi | GillaGal: why do you want to remove it? |
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| 02:28.06 | GillaGal | Becasue... it's showing up on the top of each block where the include is. |
| 02:28.06 | hector | it's displayed where? |
| 02:28.08 | Dewi | guys, debootstrap seems really handy for building a jail for, say, doing builds or dev. But are there any similar tools for building a minimal, secure jail? |
| 02:28.14 | GillaGal | visitors don't need to see that. |
| 02:28.31 | hector | visitor's browser need to see that |
| 02:28.41 | GillaGal | hector its displayed on the top of each content block I'm SSI. Like it's content. |
| 02:29.09 | hector | can you paste a sample somewhere? can't really follow... |
| 02:29.19 | Dewi | GillaGal: sounds like you're including whole HTTP responses instead of document fragments |
| 02:29.48 | abrotman | sounds like not a Debian issue |
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| 02:30.34 | enouf | abrotman: there seems to be a lot of that lately .. and the weekend is over :-{ |
| 02:30.51 | enouf | abrotman: but .. it is Summer in the Northern Hemisphere ;-) |
| 02:31.01 | htmlol | indeed it is |
| 02:31.05 | htmlol | and it's quite hot |
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| 02:31.33 | GillaGal | Dewi perhaps. Basically, I've got 5 SSI's that return 10 lines. Before these line of content it displays "Content-Type: text/html" as if it were part of the actual content. |
| 02:31.42 | epsilon | in the server room it's always hot summer -_- |
| 02:31.57 | abrotman | GillaGal: try #apache or #web .. not a #debian issue |
| 02:31.58 | htmlol | hehe yah |
| 02:32.45 | GillaGal | abrotman I know it's not a debian issue... but other's in #debian may have some insight. |
| 02:33.19 | epsilon | as long you don't ask #ubuntu questions... |
| 02:33.26 | abrotman | no .. really |
| 02:33.30 | abrotman | that doesn't make it okay |
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| 02:33.40 | GillaGal | no .. really |
| 02:33.59 | GillaGal | do you not have something better to do than bitch about me asking a question? |
| 02:34.14 | abrotman | if you're offtopic .. you're offtopic |
| 02:34.25 | GillaGal | So what... are you topic police? |
| 02:34.25 | htmlol | oh come on GillaGal. |
| 02:34.30 | enouf | GillaGal: stfu and gtfo |
| 02:34.32 | GillaGal | keeping all topics online in check? |
| 02:34.51 | superfirelord42 | GillaGal: have you tried #apache or #web ? |
| 02:35.02 | GillaGal | superfirelord42 Yes sir. |
| 02:35.06 | enouf | GillaGal: try ##linux even |
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| 02:35.37 | enouf | and ##linux-help and other networks and groups and mailing lists and usenet and ... |
| 02:36.12 | superfirelord42 | GillaGal: is it running on Debian at least? |
| 02:36.25 | enouf | prove it |
| 02:36.27 | GillaGal | superfirelord42 Of course. |
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| 02:38.29 | epsilon | GillaGal: possible other sites you are including is displaying context-header in the actualy content instead in the header? |
| 02:40.03 | magyar | is there a way to clean /etc/init.d/ folder from uninstalled packages? |
| 02:40.44 | abrotman | you would purge the package .. those are conf files |
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| 02:41.04 | magyar | even if I purge, the buggers remain |
| 02:41.32 | abrotman | then you purged the wrong package |
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| 02:43.55 | magyar | bahh, sysv-rc-conf << need to purge. |
| 02:44.09 | magyar | if not old package scripts are still there |
| 02:44.28 | GillaGal | epsilon The file is local... doesn't have anything in it except a call to a cgi script which returns 10 lines. Looks like it's being included as actul content. |
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| 02:45.39 | abrotman | magyar: need to purge what? |
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| 02:46.53 | magyar | abrotman: I use sysv-rc-conf to manage the /etc/init.d folder. So I just noticed that it holds a cache file. |
| 02:47.54 | magyar | of the /etc/init.d directory content |
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| 02:56.26 | helo_ | anyone know why firefox keeps crashing in lenny? |
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| 02:57.05 | helo_ | surely this isnt the firefox version that set the download record... |
| 02:57.08 | abrotman | flash? |
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| 03:01.14 | superfirelord42 | helo_: firefox 3.0 did, i figured that one was in sid... |
| 03:01.37 | superfirelord42 | unless im getting the release names mixed up in my head again... |
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| 03:01.57 | lolie | anything ele other then proftpd? |
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| 03:02.06 | lolie | i know there was another simple one |
| 03:02.12 | unixSnob | how do I add a user to a group |
| 03:02.13 | abrotman | vsftpd ? |
| 03:02.17 | lolie | yeah vsftpd :) |
| 03:02.17 | abrotman | man adduser |
| 03:02.23 | unixSnob | ty |
| 03:02.28 | amphi | superfirelord42: iceweasel 3 is in testing |
| 03:03.26 | burd | looking for a nice mp3 player with sound scope type plugins for lenny.. any suggestions? |
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| 03:04.08 | helo_ | damns auto-rejoin |
| 03:04.09 | burd | IE similar to the visual plugins of old from xmms1 |
| 03:04.37 | lolie | i installed vsftpd but it wont recognize any usernames when i try to login |
| 03:04.38 | lolie | via ftp |
| 03:04.44 | lolie | [7/15/2008 8:04:19 PM] 530 This FTP server is anonymous only. |
| 03:05.01 | pickcoder | lolie: read the docs |
| 03:05.12 | burd | lolie... that ftp server is insecure as it sits if it is anonymous only.. read the docs and harden the configuration |
| 03:05.48 | lolie | ok |
| 03:06.15 | pickcoder | lolie: any reason you chose FTP? |
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| 03:07.08 | lolie | i used it before |
| 03:07.18 | pickcoder | for what? |
| 03:07.21 | lolie | and now that i think about it i think i had to move something from some special apache folder to somewhere else |
| 03:07.26 | lolie | or from the vsftpd .. some users file |
| 03:07.35 | lolie | mm to log in and import files to my server when needed? |
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| 03:07.43 | pickcoder | scp works better |
| 03:07.47 | pickcoder | and it's far more secure |
| 03:07.51 | burd | lolie scp is much better |
| 03:08.01 | helo_ | i gotta figure out how to disable auto-rejoin in irssi and epic4... |
| 03:08.07 | lolie | scp |
| 03:08.09 | lolie | never tried |
| 03:08.11 | lolie | but i can try |
| 03:08.14 | pickcoder | man scp |
| 03:08.14 | burd | via ssh server lolie |
| 03:08.16 | helo_ | it subverts my hostname cloaking every time the power fails... |
| 03:08.44 | lolie | i guess i can upload via ssh |
| 03:08.54 | lolie | but im not too familiar with how to upload things throug hthat |
| 03:08.57 | lolie | my ssh is workign fine right now |
| 03:09.00 | burd | lolie.. ssh file transfer is via scp |
| 03:09.05 | pickcoder | if you can login, then sftp/scp should be on the server |
| 03:09.16 | pickcoder | (well that's not 100% always true) |
| 03:09.30 | burd | lol |
| 03:09.38 | burd | lolie windows or linux client? |
| 03:09.41 | pickcoder | or vice versa even |
| 03:09.47 | lolie | well debian |
| 03:09.58 | burd | client and server are both debian? |
| 03:10.00 | zophy | is there a way i can have bash prepend "clear;" to the commandline that is entered |
| 03:10.01 | zophy | the most important ethernet cable has a broken retaining spring clip |
| 03:10.05 | zophy | who did i just quote ? |
| 03:10.13 | zophy | "BASH Cures Cancer" |
| 03:10.15 | zophy | i never knew that |
| 03:10.22 | lolie | ok i got vsftpd to work |
| 03:11.15 | pickcoder | takes the airplane glue from zophy |
| 03:12.06 | burd | no mp3 player in leny with visual plugins at all? |
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| 03:12.52 | superfirelord42 | burd: visual as in visualizations or visual as in video capable? |
| 03:12.58 | pickcoder | burd: probably.. I don't use them. I dump MP3s on my Tungsten. |
| 03:13.01 | burd | visualizations |
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| 03:13.26 | pickcoder | xmms doesn't have any? |
| 03:13.28 | burd | it's for my mediacenter machine so when I play mp3 in the living room I can have visuals on my tv |
| 03:13.31 | lolie | i have another problem |
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| 03:13.40 | lolie | once i log in its not looking at users home dir |
| 03:13.42 | burd | xmms doesnt even have a front end anymore afaik |
| 03:13.48 | burd | xmms2 in lenny |
| 03:13.48 | lolie | do i need to move something from apache mods avialable to mods enabled? |
| 03:13.57 | lolie | like usersdir.conf or usersdir.load |
| 03:14.02 | pickcoder | lolie: read the docs... vsftp needs real administration setup |
| 03:14.11 | pickcoder | otherwise someone is going to abuse it |
| 03:14.23 | pickcoder | (or just use SCP....) |
| 03:14.25 | helo_ | kde4 will be in debian 1.5, right? ;) |
| 03:14.29 | superfirelord42 | burd: i dont know if they have it, but i think totem had it... |
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| 03:14.52 | superfirelord42 | burd: to be clearer, i dont recall if debian has it... |
| 03:15.10 | pickcoder | lolie: FWIW, VSFTP is fairly easy to setup.. if you actually read the setup guide.. |
| 03:15.14 | burd | xmms1 had lots of em but.. seems xmms has made some massive changes |
| 03:15.51 | lolie | pickcoder: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_copy |
| 03:16.00 | roe___ | I have a bridge setup between a wireless device (ath0) and a wired device (eth1). There is a 3rd interface (eth0) that is my wan link, devices can communicate through the bridge to the wan link but for some reason can't communicate through the bridge to machines on the opposite side of the bridge |
| 03:16.30 | pickcoder | burd: if I ran Lenny I could look on my file server. I have a ton of media apps installed, but they're from Etch. |
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| 03:16.46 | Nyle | amphi, ping |
| 03:16.56 | burd | i'll just keep cracking at it.. at the xmms2 site now ty tho |
| 03:17.00 | pickcoder | lolie: correct.. if you can SSH in then you can probably just scp the files over with your existing user/pass |
| 03:17.32 | burd | lolie chances are you can also use sftp with the ssh server |
| 03:17.32 | SeveredCross | helo_: Debian 1.5? |
| 03:17.40 | SeveredCross | Uhm, Etch is Debian 4.0 |
| 03:17.49 | lolie | how do i use sftp? |
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| 03:18.02 | burd | use an sftp client and connect to port 22 |
| 03:18.16 | helo_ | SeveredCross: i meant 'etch-and-a-half' |
| 03:18.23 | burd | most ftp clients can do sftp anymore |
| 03:18.24 | helo_ | or something... 'lenny-and-a-half'? |
| 03:18.27 | SeveredCross | That's not 1.5. ;) |
| 03:18.41 | SeveredCross | AFAIK, Etch and a half hasn't been released yet, or has it? |
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| 03:18.45 | helo_ | i blame canada... |
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| 03:18.49 | SeveredCross | I imagine KDE4 will be an option in Lenny. |
| 03:18.50 | pickcoder | !etch-n-half |
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| 03:19.05 | burd | lol |
| 03:19.20 | burd | that didnt get you anything did it pickcoder? |
| 03:19.53 | pickcoder | there was a trigger at some point |
| 03:19.59 | pickcoder | I have no clue what is was |
| 03:20.01 | pickcoder | s/is/it |
| 03:20.02 | burd | lol |
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| 03:21.14 | burd | flooder? |
| 03:21.32 | pickcoder | !etchandahalf |
| 03:21.33 | dpkg | well, etchnhalf is "etch + 1/2" -- an update to Debian's stable release "etch" designed to provide support for newer hardware. It will include a 2.6.24 kernel and provide an updated installer. See: http://wiki.debian.org/EtchAndAHalf |
| 03:21.58 | lolie | pickcoder: so my addres would be : http://local/~username/index.html ? |
| 03:22.01 | burd | ummm.. okie now thats a weird concept |
| 03:22.13 | lolie | sftp worked i got a program |
| 03:22.17 | pickcoder | lolie: for what? |
| 03:22.18 | burd | nice |
| 03:22.34 | lolie | pickcoder: sftp to upload |
| 03:22.35 | pickcoder | burd: it's a nice treat for people who prefer stable |
| 03:22.44 | burd | yah true |
| 03:22.59 | burd | so it's like the backports bastard child of etch? :P |
| 03:23.02 | pickcoder | lolie: I haven't use sftp in donkey's years |
| 03:23.26 | pickcoder | I told you my suggestions.. |
| 03:23.28 | lolie | pickcoder: it worked fine |
| 03:23.40 | burd | sftp is automatically enabled in the ssh server |
| 03:23.46 | lolie | pickcoder: i uploaded a test index.html and pointed browser to http://ip/~username/index.html |
| 03:23.48 | lolie | but didnt go |
| 03:23.53 | helo_ | lolie: lolie, pop that body |
| 03:24.01 | pickcoder | lolie: that would a different service and a different issue |
| 03:24.31 | pickcoder | I.E Apache2 |
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| 03:26.04 | pickcoder | lolie: if you plan on syncing a web root to a local directory, consider using rsync through an ssh shell to keep it all updated |
| 03:26.25 | pickcoder | (or local->web root [the other direction]) |
| 03:26.35 | helo_ | is there any way i can get dhcp3-server to only run on ethN if |
| 03:26.52 | helo_ | ... if ethN is using a particular ip address? |
| 03:26.53 | burd | helo_ yes easily with the config |
| 03:27.06 | oc80z | sure |
| 03:27.20 | oc80z | helo_ why dont you do that? |
| 03:27.26 | helo_ | i use various networks, only one of which i want a dhcp server to run on... otherwise, running a dhcp server could be catastrophic |
| 03:27.34 | oc80z | right |
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| 03:27.43 | oc80z | you should VLAN |
| 03:27.55 | oc80z | since you have varias collision domains |
| 03:28.07 | burd | helo_ when you designate your networks.. the dhcp server will only dish out to the interface on that network i believe |
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| 03:29.21 | oc80z | right |
| 03:29.33 | oc80z | so on each collision domain use a dhcp server. |
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| 03:29.43 | bujin | hi |
| 03:29.57 | bujin | a question im trying to setup compiz |
| 03:30.14 | helo_ | sounds good... thanks |
| 03:30.39 | lolie | pickcoder: whats rsync |
| 03:30.53 | pickcoder | !info rsync etch |
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| 03:31.19 | dpkg | rsync: (fast remote file copy program (like rcp)), section net, is optional. Version: 2.6.9-2etch1 (etch), Packaged size: 255 kB, Installed size: 440 kB |
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| 03:32.38 | lolie | ahh i got it to work lol |
| 03:32.57 | lolie | userdir.conf and userdir.load had to be copied from mods-avialable on apache2/ to /mods-enabled/ |
| 03:33.14 | lolie | all i need to figure out is how i can make it so when i adduser it adds public_html folder |
| 03:33.29 | pickcoder | lolie: actually you should have used a2enmod to enable them |
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| 03:33.37 | lolie | i did |
| 03:33.42 | lolie | oh the userdir.conf and load |
| 03:34.35 | lolie | oh well |
| 03:34.45 | lolie | any idea how i can have it add public_html to home folder? after creating user |
| 03:35.18 | burd | lolie write a shell script |
| 03:35.26 | shah | hi wols_, streuner, dpkg u were referring to my problem of not accessing internet through debian bare system(without DE), i got ubuntu now, with internet working, so by viewing output of some commands can u solve my previous problem??? |
| 03:36.10 | lolie | burd: i dont know how |
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| 03:36.50 | burd | lolie try this link maybe: http://www.freeos.com/guides/lsst/ |
| 03:38.06 | lolie | burd: ok but i know there is an easier way setting it to add public_html to home dir without scripting? |
| 03:38.20 | pickcoder | mkdir ~<user>/public_html |
| 03:38.31 | pickcoder | heh |
| 03:38.39 | lolie | heh |
| 03:38.46 | lolie | no way to make it so it can be done while i do adduser? |
| 03:38.59 | burd | lolie make a script that takes a couple variables, username, password |
| 03:39.23 | burd | then have it drop those variables to adduser in the script, then make the script create the directory for the new user.. |
| 03:39.31 | burd | piece of cake |
| 03:39.49 | pickcoder | lolie: just create the public_html directory under /etc/skel |
| 03:39.58 | burd | ahh yah that works too lol |
| 03:39.58 | lolie | there we go :) |
| 03:39.59 | pickcoder | you can even preload it with default files |
| 03:39.59 | lolie | lol |
| 03:40.07 | lolie | i knew there was a freaking easier way i did before :) |
| 03:40.08 | lolie | hehehe |
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| 03:40.19 | enouf | magyar: yes, i noticed that about sysv-rc-conf as well , and it doesn't update properly, but the man pages and "~$ dlocate sysv-rc-conf" or dpkg -L pkgname should tell you all you need to know/remove |
| 03:40.51 | enouf | magyar: otherwise, the .postinst script creates files not listed in pkg contents |
| 03:41.44 | enouf | magyar: i gotta sleep now - hope that helped, maybe - oh see dpkg -P option too |
| 03:42.00 | lolie | yeah that worked just fine :) |
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| 03:42.31 | lolie | how can i get rid of vsftpd that i installed? |
| 03:42.57 | burd | apt-get remove --purge vsftpd |
| 03:43.14 | lolie | purge will remove all its configs ? |
| 03:43.18 | burd | right |
| 03:43.30 | lolie | ok |
| 03:43.32 | lolie | thank you :) |
| 03:43.47 | lolie | ill just use sftp or ssh to copy files |
| 03:43.49 | lolie | i guess |
| 03:43.57 | burd | thats the safest and modern way to do it |
| 03:44.09 | lolie | what if i was to have a small public server |
| 03:44.16 | lolie | i would want an ftp server then |
| 03:44.17 | burd | thats up to you lol |
| 03:44.22 | burd | yes ftp |
| 03:44.22 | lolie | what would i go with ? |
| 03:44.24 | pickcoder | lolie: ftp is overrated |
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| 03:44.41 | pickcoder | just serve it over http |
| 03:44.49 | burd | but lolie if you just want downloads available and not uploads just use http |
| 03:44.59 | pickcoder | you could even put squid in front of Apache to serve the stuff from cache |
| 03:45.16 | htmlol | ftp IS overrated |
| 03:45.21 | lolie | yeah someday i might be doin uploads too |
| 03:45.35 | htmlol | finally someone agrees |
| 03:45.39 | lolie | i need to learn how to transfer files over ssh |
| 03:45.47 | htmlol | lolie: scp |
| 03:45.53 | htmlol | or sftp |
| 03:46.02 | burd | lolie just remember public uploads are a HUGE security risk and somebody will eventually put somethign there you do not want for sure |
| 03:46.03 | lolie | ill learn scp |
| 03:46.22 | lolie | right |
| 03:46.27 | lolie | ill be expecting lol |
| 03:46.33 | pickcoder | lolie: scp <from file spec> <to file spec> |
| 03:46.34 | lolie | thats why im tring to learn whats secure what not |
| 03:46.38 | htmlol | scp user@host:/source/file destination |
| 03:46.40 | pickcoder | file spec could be a local path or a remote path |
| 03:46.49 | lolie | ok so if its going into windows |
| 03:46.52 | htmlol | or vice versa |
| 03:46.55 | pickcoder | remotes are as htmlol stated |
| 03:46.56 | lolie | destenation would be full C:\ wtc? |
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| 03:47.21 | pickcoder | I wasn't aware that Windows supposed the scp or sftp subsystem |
| 03:47.29 | pickcoder | s/supposed/supported |
| 03:47.29 | infotron | dos is DEAD |
| 03:47.34 | htmlol | me neither |
| 03:47.48 | htmlol | is he using cygwin? |
| 03:47.52 | burd | windows doesnt support it but they can use winscp which works lots like an ftp client |
| 03:47.54 | lolie | heh so scp cant be used to transfer from windows/ssh |
| 03:48.00 | lolie | they do have sftp for windows |
| 03:48.00 | superfirelord42 | i dont think windows does, but you can use putty, and sftp... |
| 03:48.04 | pickcoder | burd: as a client yeah.. not as a service |
| 03:48.10 | htmlol | only with cygwin |
| 03:48.15 | burd | right |
| 03:48.20 | pickcoder | winscp is nice I use it at work |
| 03:48.31 | lolie | yeah im using that |
| 03:48.41 | burd | winscp + putty are my best friends in windows lol |
| 03:48.42 | htmlol | or the MindTerm ssh applet supports scp nicely |
| 03:48.42 | lolie | will scp copy from ssh to windows? |
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| 03:49.07 | pickcoder | lolie: it's like any other file transfer app in 'doze |
| 03:49.14 | lolie | ok |
| 03:49.16 | lolie | ill atempt |
| 03:49.18 | pickcoder | except it transfers over SSH |
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| 03:49.51 | burd | picks the dust balls out of his eyes from the motorcycle ride today |
| 03:49.56 | burd | damn eyes keep going blurry |
| 03:50.10 | pickcoder | mine too, but I'm just getting old |
| 03:50.14 | burd | haha |
| 03:50.22 | htmlol | debian motorcycle? schweet. |
| 03:50.33 | pickcoder | hopefully it's not running Sid |
| 03:50.38 | pickcoder | insurance would be high |
| 03:50.43 | htmlol | HAHA |
| 03:50.46 | htmlol | ya |
| 03:50.47 | burd | hehe |
| 03:51.13 | burd | gonna put debian in my camper when I get the funds for it lol |
| 03:51.25 | htmlol | hehe |
| 03:52.30 | burd | its all the same.. thats like me telling you your nick is senseless |
| 03:52.44 | burd | so change it LOL |
| 03:53.05 | htmlol | my nick iss....... |
| 03:53.17 | htmlol | bounces on a trampoline |
| 03:53.25 | htmlol | FUNN! |
| 03:54.01 | infotron | bounces a trampoline off htmlol *BoinG* |
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| 03:54.24 | lolie | pickcoder: http://pastebin.com/mb9fbe34 |
| 03:54.43 | lolie | pickcoder: am i doin that right |
| 03:55.02 | Nyle | enouf, ping |
| 03:55.21 | burd | well i'm slightly disappointed with the mp3 players in lenny... somewhere there has to be one I can compile or something that has nice visualizations |
| 03:55.23 | enouf | Nyle: pongo , kabongo muther |
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| 03:55.31 | Nyle | hey man |
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| 03:55.37 | Nyle | you wanna see another cute little critter |
| 03:55.53 | htmlol | burd: amaroK? |
| 03:55.57 | pickcoder | lolie: you're on Debian.. there is no C drive |
| 03:56.06 | enouf | Nyle: not really - but ok |
| 03:56.09 | Nyle | enouf, http://jtech.hfds.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=7&pos=25 |
| 03:56.17 | Nyle | enouf, my god daughter |
| 03:56.22 | burd | I thought amarok was like a minimalist setup |
| 03:56.28 | lolie | pickcoder: well right now im on my windows station loged in ssh. wanting to copy from C:\index.html to my /home/bumbar |
| 03:56.33 | lolie | not possible? |
| 03:56.42 | pickcoder | lolie: no.. use WinSCP to copy from the Debian box |
| 03:56.46 | enouf | Nyle: YOooo |
| 03:56.48 | lolie | or i have to use sftp for that windows - linux .. linux - windows scp |
| 03:56.50 | enouf | Nyle: way cool |
| 03:57.02 | Nyle | enouf, http://jtech.hfds.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=7&pos=24 |
| 03:57.02 | htmlol | burd: not at all. full-featured. google mage it |
| 03:57.04 | lolie | in other words i cant use scp between windows/linux |
| 03:57.21 | htmlol | image* |
| 03:57.30 | pickcoder | lolie: yes.. you can, but you can't use the scp app on Debian to transfer from there to Windows |
| 03:57.32 | enouf | Nyle: here's a decent critter and perhaps a useful ClusterFS alternative; http://pareto.uab.es/mcreel/PelicanHPC/ |
| 03:57.36 | pickcoder | you have to do it the other way |
| 03:57.48 | pickcoder | it's simpler between two Linux boxen |
| 03:58.09 | lolie | pickcoder: ok i understand because of the user@host .. |
| 03:58.12 | lolie | i ? :) |
| 03:58.19 | Nyle | enouf, wth is that? |
| 03:58.19 | lolie | ill just use sftp then and linux to linux scp |
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| 03:58.31 | enouf | Nyle: haha, someone deemed you a godfather? lmao, i hope nothing happens to her parents :-P |
| 03:58.39 | Nyle | ahaha |
| 03:58.40 | Nyle | asshole |
| 03:58.40 | Nyle | :) |
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| 03:58.44 | bujin | hi |
| 03:58.49 | enouf | Nyle: it's a clustering FS disto |
| 03:58.51 | Nyle | bona sera |
| 03:58.53 | Nyle | or something |
| 03:58.57 | htmlol | burd: HI |
| 03:59.04 | bujin | a question im just installing compiz and i run it but it doenst seem tobe doing anything |
| 03:59.05 | htmlol | bujin: HI |
| 03:59.05 | burd | hello |
| 03:59.06 | Nyle | enouf, yes I am godfather now! |
| 03:59.08 | Nyle | The Godfather |
| 03:59.27 | htmlol | burd: lol sorry i meant that for bujin |
| 03:59.46 | burd | hehe |
| 04:00.00 | enouf | Nyle: i am, and have been for a while - great feeling - Family is everything , congrats man |
| 04:00.07 | Nyle | thanks dude |
| 04:00.11 | TiMiDo | enouf, spanish please |
| 04:00.21 | Nyle | spanish? |
| 04:00.25 | TiMiDo | lol |
| 04:00.26 | TiMiDo | 'X |
| 04:00.29 | htmlol | hahaha |
| 04:00.30 | TiMiDo | wrong channel |
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| 04:00.50 | htmlol | BAHAHA |
| 04:00.55 | Nyle | enouf, http://jtech.hfds.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=7&pos=5 <-- these two graduated, nursing school in the middle, highschool on the right |
| 04:01.00 | Nyle | bahaha? |
| 04:01.02 | pickcoder | lolie: depending on how you look at it, yes..the user@host won't work for Windows unless there is an SSH server on it with SCP support |
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| 04:01.04 | Nyle | what kinda laughter is bahaha |
| 04:01.20 | htmlol | your MOM's laughter |
| 04:01.23 | lolie | pickcoder: ok |
| 04:01.28 | htmlol | dpkg: ^5 |
| 04:01.29 | dpkg | htmlol: ^5 |
| 04:01.37 | pickcoder | wonders if Disas.. er Vista supports it |
| 04:01.40 | htmlol | WHAT NOW |
| 04:01.49 | bujin | when running compiz |
| 04:01.57 | bujin | how can i fix this Checking for Xgl: not present. |
| 04:02.54 | Nyle | enouf, http://jtech.hfds.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=7&pos=21 <-- her boob popped out but I didn't get it on pic :( |
| 04:03.01 | Nyle | that was the best part in the party hahaha |
| 04:03.02 | enouf | Nyle: why aren't you in any of those pics? |
| 04:03.07 | enouf | hides |
| 04:03.08 | Nyle | im in the red shirt |
| 04:03.24 | Nyle | plus i was taking them |
| 04:03.57 | bujin | how can i fix this Checking for Xgl: not present. when runnin compiz |
| 04:04.09 | Nyle | bujin, you don't want to run compiz with Xgl |
| 04:04.13 | enouf | Nyle: haha. you don't play guitar - or you were short and fat in you phone videos :-P |
| 04:04.15 | Nyle | bujin, which videoc ard to dyou have? |
| 04:04.19 | bujin | ati |
| 04:04.20 | enouf | hahaha |
| 04:04.24 | Nyle | enouf, umm.. no |
| 04:04.35 | enouf | falls out of bed |
| 04:04.51 | enouf | smacks desk |
| 04:04.54 | htmlol | falls into bed |
| 04:04.55 | Nyle | bujin, which ati card |
| 04:05.17 | Nyle | enouf, just had a bit more hair and my back was hurting so i was like hunched over in the guitar videos |
| 04:05.20 | enouf | Nyle: hey, i'm teasing mate - it's cool - nice hottie there ;-) |
| 04:06.04 | Nyle | bujin, you may wish to use the radeon driver for ati, unless its a recent ati, for which you may need fglrx |
| 04:06.15 | bujin | Nyle, http://pastebin.com/m466bec5e |
| 04:06.16 | Nyle | bujin, you want to avoid Xgl and try compiz with AIGLX |
| 04:06.26 | enouf | Nyle: you mean "i had a bit more back hair then and i lost weight after shaving" :-P |
| 04:06.35 | Nyle | use the radeon driver |
| 04:06.39 | bujin | my video card is http://pastebin.com/m466bec5e |
| 04:06.41 | htmlol | ha |
| 04:06.47 | Nyle | enouf, i lost 15 lbs while i was sick last few weeks |
| 04:06.50 | enouf | smacks desk |
| 04:06.50 | Nyle | that might have done it |
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| 04:07.03 | bujin | this is my output when i run compiz http://pastebin.com/m10de0046 |
| 04:07.04 | enouf | Nyle: oh .. you ok man? |
| 04:07.08 | Nyle | I was 160lbs before, 5'11, now im 145ish and 5'11 |
| 04:07.14 | Nyle | !nyeet |
| 04:07.14 | dpkg | Nyle, did you eat lately? did you drink some water? did you take your vitamins? |
| 04:07.18 | pickcoder | just have a set of twins and you'll be plenty active to help lose weight |
| 04:07.18 | enouf | what happened? |
| 04:07.21 | Nyle | yes, dpkg, yes. I ate. |
| 04:07.26 | Nyle | I don't eat |
| 04:07.37 | enouf | wait - Nyle --> go to ot |
| 04:07.41 | Nyle | yeh |
| 04:07.43 | Nyle | im here |
| 04:07.43 | Nyle | you're not |
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| 04:08.02 | htmlol | dpkg is the man. |
| 04:08.03 | dpkg | bugger all, i dunno, htmlol |
| 04:08.06 | enouf | wrong one |
| 04:08.14 | enouf | !spank htmlol |
| 04:08.14 | dpkg | bends htmlol over her knee and delivers a mighty *THWACK* |
| 04:08.20 | enouf | he? :-P |
| 04:08.27 | Nyle | her |
| 04:08.28 | Nyle | yes |
| 04:08.32 | enouf | indeed |
| 04:08.34 | Nyle | !gender |
| 04:08.34 | dpkg | I'm female |
| 04:08.46 | Nyle | pickcoder, you got twins? |
| 04:08.49 | htmlol | dpkg is the KINKY WOman. |
| 04:08.50 | dpkg | htmlol: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about |
| 04:08.50 | enouf | that's my gal |
| 04:08.59 | enouf | !where were you? |
| 04:09.00 | dpkg | I was getting some action with the botchicks! WooYEAH! I got me some NOOKIE! |
| 04:09.06 | enouf | ;-) |
| 04:09.10 | burd | lesbian? |
| 04:09.11 | lolie | could there be anything in debian to start restarting networking interface? |
| 04:09.14 | htmlol | hahaha |
| 04:09.22 | lolie | it just disonects me from sftp when i try uplading and from ssh |
| 04:09.25 | htmlol | dpkg: lesbian? |
| 04:09.25 | dpkg | methinks lesbian is probably a variation of debian http://www.lesbian.mine.nu/ |
| 04:09.38 | htmlol | hahaha |
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| 04:09.46 | enouf | nookie means girl + girl? what are you? a tard or a moron? |
| 04:09.50 | Nyle | pickcoder, lolie /etc/init.d/networking restart and/or sudo ifdown ethX;sudo ifup ethX |
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| 04:10.11 | Nyle | er..not pickcoder |
| 04:10.16 | DanDare | !blood type |
| 04:10.18 | enouf | Nyle: i |
| 04:10.28 | htmlol | Nyle: or ifupdown :) |
| 04:10.29 | enouf | Nyle: i'm tired. gotta sleep now |
| 04:10.31 | pickcoder | lolie: it's easy.... start winscp on windows, create a server profile for your debian box.. connect, drag, drop |
| 04:10.35 | Nyle | oh |
| 04:10.40 | Nyle | there is an ifupdown? |
| 04:10.42 | enouf | Nyle: later, k? |
| 04:10.44 | Nyle | hnuh. |
| 04:10.45 | htmlol | yep. |
| 04:10.47 | Nyle | enouf, later what/ |
| 04:10.57 | Nyle | enouf, you going to bed? |
| 04:11.03 | Nyle | wimp |
| 04:11.03 | enouf | snores |
| 04:11.09 | Nyle | later man |
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| 04:11.16 | Nyle | dream of tig ol' bitties |
| 04:11.16 | Chocobo | How do you guys recommend managing/viewing system services? update-rc.d is a little time consuming, and doesn't allow an easy view of the current setup. |
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| 04:11.33 | Nyle | Chocobo, i think kde has a frontend of it |
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| 04:11.37 | acidslep | hi! |
| 04:11.39 | Nyle | call system services in kcontrol |
| 04:11.41 | Nyle | acidslep, hi |
| 04:11.42 | acidslep | im here guys! |
| 04:11.45 | htmlol | Chocobo: htop |
| 04:11.48 | Nyle | acidslep, congrats |
| 04:11.50 | Chocobo | crappy. I am using gnome |
| 04:11.58 | acidslep | thanks :) |
| 04:12.01 | Nyle | Chocobo, gnome should have a coutnerpart |
| 04:12.12 | acidslep | kde? |
| 04:12.12 | Nyle | htmlol, htop? |
| 04:12.16 | Nyle | gnome? |
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| 04:12.22 | lolie | pickcoder: i did but it disconects me from ssh and winscp shortly after starting upload |
| 04:12.25 | Nyle | !tell acidslep -about kde |
| 04:12.27 | lolie | ill try again |
| 04:12.36 | lolie | i did sudo ifdown eth0 and sudo ifup eth0 |
| 04:12.48 | htmlol | Nyle: isn't that what he was asking? |
| 04:12.53 | Chocobo | Yeah, gnome has something _really_ stupid. It isn't very powerful. hrmm... I remember a tool a long time ago... I wish I could remember the name. |
| 04:13.06 | Nyle | if you do sudo ifdown eth0 then obviously you can't reconnect to your thing |
| 04:13.10 | enouf | try "ifconfig eth0 up" |
| 04:13.10 | acidslep | no no, i was suggesting kde as the counterpart :) |
| 04:13.30 | htmlol | I'm telling you. ifupdown. |
| 04:13.32 | Nyle | say you ssh to A,and type sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0. well ifdown will be issued, but not ifup |
| 04:13.35 | enouf | snores some more .. |
| 04:13.38 | Nyle | cuz you'll have already disconnected |
| 04:13.40 | Nyle | so ... |
| 04:13.51 | enouf | ifupdown is a config script |
| 04:13.52 | Nyle | use /etc/init.d/networking restart or ifupdown |
| 04:14.05 | lolie | urgh |
| 04:14.08 | lolie | it just brought me down again.. |
| 04:14.13 | acidslep | iwconfig eth0 commit |
| 04:14.14 | acidslep | hehe |
| 04:14.22 | Nyle | format c:\ |
| 04:14.28 | Nyle | oh |
| 04:14.31 | Nyle | I mean... |
| 04:14.41 | htmlol | hehe |
| 04:15.05 | htmlol | or just good ol' /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 04:15.13 | acidslep | rm / -df |
| 04:15.14 | enouf | ~$ find /etc -name '*ifupdown*' -type f |
| 04:15.14 | acidslep | hehe |
| 04:16.01 | acidslep | ok guys, this is so crazy |
| 04:16.08 | acidslep | im in a dark room in a hotel |
| 04:16.24 | htmlol | OMG RLY |
| 04:16.31 | acidslep | and the hotel has wifi, but it has a portal and all i have is... core debain from the netinst disc |
| 04:16.33 | acidslep | yes really |
| 04:16.49 | acidslep | and the wifi, has a portal thingey where you have to agree to shit |
| 04:16.59 | acidslep | but i cant get past cause i have nothing that can accept cookies or anything |
| 04:17.09 | enouf | portals are nice, especially if they are attached to hot people :-P |
| 04:17.28 | htmlol | that sucks. |
| 04:17.36 | acidslep | yeah i know its driving me fucking crazy |
| 04:17.37 | burd | just grab the lynx deb and install it |
| 04:17.47 | acidslep | lynx with its fucking 100 dep tree |
| 04:17.55 | htmlol | call the front desk and complain |
| 04:17.57 | acidslep | i was wondering if there was a way to fetch all of the dep tree |
| 04:17.59 | htmlol | heh |
| 04:17.59 | Nyle | enouf, ping |
| 04:18.02 | acidslep | htmlol, good idea |
| 04:18.07 | enouf | Nyle: pong |
| 04:18.07 | acidslep | but i cant :P |
| 04:18.10 | acidslep | XD |
| 04:18.11 | Nyle | enouf, |
| 04:18.14 | htmlol | no? |
| 04:18.15 | acidslep | ping pong hahahahah |
| 04:18.18 | Nyle | enouf, |
| 04:18.19 | enouf | Nyle: really .. gotta sleep man |
| 04:18.22 | Nyle | argh |
| 04:18.22 | htmlol | why not? |
| 04:18.23 | Nyle | hang on |
| 04:18.23 | acidslep | no i cant besides, what the fuck would they do |
| 04:18.30 | acidslep | its all set up |
| 04:18.35 | acidslep | they dont know shit about it |
| 04:18.40 | Nyle | enouf, join ot |
| 04:18.43 | burd | man amarok been scanning mp3's for about 15 minutes.. how long should 4000 take?? |
| 04:18.44 | enouf | Nyle: tomorrow morning |
| 04:18.49 | Nyle | enouf, http://picpaste.com/n506590884_713642_7804.jpg |
| 04:18.49 | enouf | Nyle: i |
| 04:18.56 | htmlol | give you a free meal or something, at worst :D |
| 04:19.01 | castoff | acidslep try a different DNS than the one the hotel assigns you |
| 04:19.02 | Nyle | enouf, http://picpaste.com/n506590884_467270_716.jpg |
| 04:19.05 | Nyle | enouf, ok good night |
| 04:19.05 | Nyle | :) |
| 04:19.17 | acidslep | castoff whaaat |
| 04:19.26 | acidslep | it redirects all traffic to this gay portal page |
| 04:19.27 | enouf | Nyle: very very nice |
| 04:19.32 | htmlol | burd: pretty long. it'll be badass once it's done. |
| 04:19.34 | acidslep | wget www.google.com |
| 04:19.39 | acidslep | yeilds the portal page |
| 04:19.43 | Chocobo | sysvconfig <--- this will work :) |
| 04:19.47 | Nyle | yeh |
| 04:19.48 | Nyle | thanks |
| 04:19.50 | Nyle | :) |
| 04:20.05 | enouf | ;-) ok .. night man |
| 04:20.07 | htmlol | acidslep: try FTP |
| 04:20.10 | Nyle | g'nite |
| 04:20.20 | pickcoder | castoff: I dunno if that would work on all of them |
| 04:20.28 | castoff | does nslookup www.google.com give you correct IP addresses? |
| 04:20.39 | *** join/#debian samplr (n=samplr@user-64-9-234-12.googlewifi.com) |
| 04:20.47 | pickcoder | I guess his non-agreement of terms == boot |
| 04:20.54 | lolie | pickcoder: maybe you would be able to help me with this little situation too |
| 04:20.54 | castoff | pickcoder yeh but is worth trying |
| 04:20.55 | Nyle | hmm? |
| 04:21.00 | Nyle | what |
| 04:21.03 | Nyle | whats going on pickcoder |
| 04:21.05 | Nyle | !pick |
| 04:21.10 | lolie | pickcoder: i uploaded 2 files one is index.html and the other is images folder |
| 04:21.10 | Nyle | hey what is pick and how do you code it? |
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| 04:21.16 | acidslep | fuck sorry i got dissconeected |
| 04:21.18 | pickcoder | pickwiki.org |
| 04:21.21 | acidslep | what did i miss |
| 04:21.23 | htmlol | acidslep: try FTP |
| 04:21.28 | lolie | pickcoder: when browse to index.html it shows all text but not the images like logos etc. |
| 04:21.32 | acidslep | yes i have ftp |
| 04:21.36 | acidslep | what can i do with that |
| 04:21.37 | Nyle | pickcoder pickcoder pickcoder pickcoder |
| 04:21.39 | Nyle | hello! |
| 04:21.40 | samplr | I thought I did a vanilla debian installation, but now, there's nothing mounted on /tmp, and normal users can't write to it. There's no partition on the drive for /tmp, either. Did I miss sometihng? |
| 04:21.42 | lolie | pickcoder: the reason it doesnt show is because its trying to find images folder in here . http://192.168.1.104/images/logo.gif |
| 04:21.42 | acidslep | OH MAYBE IT does nto redirect it? |
| 04:21.51 | htmlol | exactly |
| 04:21.53 | lolie | pickcoder: actualy address is http://192.168.1.104/~bumbar/images/logo.gif |
| 04:21.58 | Nyle | pickcoder, |
| 04:22.03 | acidslep | samplr.... is it just mounted at /? |
| 04:22.12 | Nyle | lolie, could not connect |
| 04:22.14 | acidslep | and normal users dont have w to tmp |
| 04:22.18 | Nyle | lolie, you know why |
| 04:22.21 | lolie | oh its my |
| 04:22.22 | samplr | acidslep: it's part of / |
| 04:22.23 | lolie | local ip |
| 04:22.24 | Nyle | lolie, cuz you suck :) |
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| 04:22.25 | acidslep | yeah good |
| 04:22.29 | lolie | lol |
| 04:22.29 | samplr | acidslep: I know I can just chmod it... |
| 04:22.29 | Nyle | j/k |
| 04:22.32 | acidslep | look at the permissions |
| 04:22.38 | acidslep | ok, sorry |
| 04:22.42 | samplr | acidslep: is /tmp being on / normal? |
| 04:22.42 | Nyle | pickcoder, ! |
| 04:22.43 | ball_licker | Im having trouble changing my term colors |
| 04:22.46 | pickcoder | Nyle: pickwiki.org |
| 04:22.52 | Nyle | pickcoder, ok thanks |
| 04:23.03 | pickcoder | and yes.. I have twin 11.5-month old girls |
| 04:23.15 | htmlol | ball_licker: what terminal eemulator? |
| 04:23.32 | ball_licker | when I use putty to ssh into my box |
| 04:23.34 | Nyle | pickcoder, ohhhh yeh i remember |
| 04:23.41 | ball_licker | bash |
| 04:23.42 | Nyle | pickcoder, crawling all over your furniture lately |
| 04:23.42 | Nyle | :) |
| 04:23.42 | ball_licker | i guess |
| 04:23.47 | pickcoder | Nyle: as castoff suggested, can you change your current resolver? |
| 04:23.52 | htmlol | no, putty. |
| 04:23.52 | ball_licker | and its bashing my balls |
| 04:23.56 | Nyle | pickcoder, why? |
| 04:23.58 | ball_licker | yeah putty |
| 04:23.58 | pickcoder | some play DNS spoofing until you agree to terms |
| 04:24.04 | pickcoder | Nyle: sorry.. |
| 04:24.07 | htmlol | just go into putty and do it |
| 04:24.08 | Nyle | what are you talking... ok |
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| 04:24.16 | pickcoder | that was for acidslep1 |
| 04:24.22 | acidslep1 | god damnnit keep getting d/ced |
| 04:24.23 | acidslep1 | sorry |
| 04:24.29 | acidslep1 | what did i miss |
| 04:24.31 | pickcoder | acidslep1: as castoff suggested, can you change your current resolver? |
| 04:24.36 | pickcoder | some play DNS spoofing until you agree to terms |
| 04:24.38 | Nyle | pickcoder, http://jtech.hfds.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=7&pos=24 |
| 04:24.45 | htmlol | acidslep1: how are you on irc |
| 04:24.52 | Nyle | pickcoder, me and my little god daughter |
| 04:24.55 | acidslep | sepetate lappy :) |
| 04:25.03 | Nyle | sepetate? |
| 04:25.10 | acidslep | not mine |
| 04:25.11 | lolie | pickcoder: ~ help :P |
| 04:25.16 | acidslep | dont wanna adhoc its too stupid |
| 04:25.18 | acidslep | i hate vista |
| 04:25.20 | Nyle | pickcoder, oh its a database thingy |
| 04:25.27 | acidslep | well i could... |
| 04:25.28 | htmlol | acidslep: so just accept with that! |
| 04:25.33 | acidslep | XD |
| 04:25.34 | acidslep | you silly |
| 04:25.36 | Nyle | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pick_operating_system |
| 04:25.37 | burd | acidslep.. go with the adhoc |
| 04:25.40 | acidslep | change my resolver? hwo |
| 04:25.41 | infotron | insert clue into ... |
| 04:25.45 | burd | until you get something installed anyhow lol |
| 04:25.48 | acidslep | burd ive tried quite a bit |
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| 04:25.52 | castoff | acidslep then you could always agree with the lappy and then change the mac on the installer ;-) |
| 04:26.09 | htmlol | exactly! |
| 04:26.22 | pickcoder | heh.. muscial macs |
| 04:26.26 | pickcoder | musical |
| 04:26.33 | pickcoder | bleh.. it's bedtime |
| 04:26.35 | acidslep | castoff OMG i thought of that |
| 04:26.36 | pickcoder | I can't type |
| 04:26.37 | infotron | QUACK |
| 04:26.41 | lolie | pickcoder u available? |
| 04:26.43 | lolie | for one sec |
| 04:26.48 | htmlol | or just ad hoc, install, then regular connect! |
| 04:26.55 | acidslep | ad hoc hasent worked yet |
| 04:27.02 | acidslep | plus its a little bitch about it |
| 04:27.04 | acidslep | i hate vista |
| 04:27.09 | acidslep | how do i mac spoof? |
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| 04:27.18 | acidslep | and do you think it does it by mac adresses? |
| 04:27.18 | htmlol | well, MAKE IT WORK! :p |
| 04:27.20 | Nyle | you buy a mac first |
| 04:27.24 | Nyle | and then you spoof it |
| 04:27.25 | acidslep | XD |
| 04:27.27 | Nyle | i think |
| 04:27.27 | acidslep | rlol! |
| 04:27.31 | htmlol | hehehe |
| 04:27.34 | Nyle | im not too sure though |
| 04:27.37 | Nyle | look on google |
| 04:27.38 | infotron | acidslep: some wireless devices don't allow mac spoofing (and hence why they cannot bridge) |
| 04:27.38 | acidslep | dont make me laff theres people sleepin here |
| 04:27.45 | pickcoder | lolie: make sure the user/group is correct for ./images/ |
| 04:27.46 | infotron | eg, hardware limitation |
| 04:27.47 | acidslep | i see infotron |
| 04:27.47 | Nyle | 'linux MAC spoofing' |
| 04:27.48 | Nyle | etc. etc. |
| 04:27.50 | castoff | acidslep i'd try a different DNS 1st |
| 04:27.54 | acidslep | ive got 2 wireless cards |
| 04:27.55 | Nyle | try man ip |
| 04:27.56 | pickcoder | lolie: and it should be under ~/public_html |
| 04:28.05 | Nyle | only if userdir is enabled |
| 04:28.07 | Nyle | mod UserDir |
| 04:28.12 | Nyle | and loaded |
| 04:28.30 | lolie | nyle it is i moved it from mods avail to mods enabled |
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| 04:28.35 | pickcoder | Nyle: been there already |
| 04:28.36 | Nyle | o |
| 04:28.38 | Nyle | good |
| 04:28.41 | lolie | pickcoder: /imgages/ are under ~bumbar/public_html |
| 04:28.42 | Nyle | ok |
| 04:28.49 | lolie | but im not sure about the user/group ? |
| 04:28.50 | Nyle | bumbar? |
| 04:28.52 | Eitan | Hello all... I seem to have a big problem with debian. |
| 04:28.55 | lolie | bumbar means bee :) |
| 04:28.57 | Nyle | bumbaclot |
| 04:28.59 | Nyle | oh |
| 04:29.03 | pickcoder | lolie: ls -l will show details |
| 04:29.03 | Nyle | bumbaclot means motherfucker |
| 04:29.08 | Nyle | i think in jamaican |
| 04:29.13 | lolie | lol |
| 04:29.15 | bujin | Nyle, did u see my video card? the info? |
| 04:29.20 | Nyle | bujin, yes i did |
| 04:29.25 | Nyle | bujin, i advised against fglrx |
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| 04:29.31 | Nyle | bujin, I recommend you to use radeon driver |
| 04:29.32 | lolie | pickcoder: how do i maksure user/group is correct for /images/ |
| 04:29.34 | Nyle | !ati |
| 04:29.34 | dpkg | To use an ATI graphics card with Debian, ask me about <fglrx>, <radeon>, and <radeonhd>. |
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| 04:29.37 | Eitan | For some reason, I booted into debian, and I was in gnome, and the hard drive light stayed on. Then I couldn't open any files on the desktop, which was strange, so I rebooted. |
| 04:29.37 | Nyle | !radeon |
| 04:29.37 | dpkg | [radeon] A brand of graphics processing units by ATI. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon, http://wiki.x.org/wiki/radeon. For chipsets prior to R500 (ie. models up to and including the X1050), use the "radeon" xorg driver and optionally install 'libgl1-mesa-dri' for 3D acceleration. Alternatively, the non-free <fglrx> driver can be used (all models, usually better 3D performance/features). #radeon @ freenode. See also <radeonhd>. |
| 04:29.59 | pickcoder | chown -R user.group <file or directory> |
| 04:30.01 | Nyle | bujin, also consult with #radeon and also with #compiz-fusion |
| 04:30.13 | Eitan | I did the shutdown sequence, and errors came up with the filesystem. On rebooting into debian. It said that there were errors in the filesystem. |
| 04:30.16 | Nyle | bujin, #compiz-fusion are experts on making all this work in debian |
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| 04:30.23 | pickcoder | -R is for recursive on directory |
| 04:30.27 | bujin | join #compiz-fusion |
| 04:30.31 | lolie | ok |
| 04:30.32 | bujin | ok thanks |
| 04:30.33 | Nyle | use a / |
| 04:30.36 | Nyle | forward / |
| 04:30.36 | bujin | lol |
| 04:30.38 | Nyle | :) |
| 04:30.39 | bujin | im sleepy |
| 04:30.40 | bujin | :P |
| 04:30.41 | lolie | how do i know group ? |
| 04:30.42 | burd | Eitan: it will say that if the time limit between file system checks has been exceeded as well |
| 04:30.48 | Nyle | lolie, cat /etc/passwd |
| 04:30.52 | lolie | or hwat is user.group |
| 04:30.59 | Eitan | Then it said that I needed to run fsck manually, which I did. I said "yes" to all of the fix-it options, and rebooted again. |
| 04:31.14 | burd | Eitan: scratch that i missed some of your stuff there |
| 04:31.17 | Nyle | Eitan, ok and? |
| 04:31.22 | acidslep | i see nothing about mac spoffing in man ip(8) |
| 04:31.26 | pickcoder | lolie: what is ~bumbar |
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| 04:31.34 | Eitan | Now grub basically won't give me my boot choices and, then it says "error 17" and hangs. What went wrong, and how can this be fixed? |
| 04:31.35 | Nyle | acidslep, not about spoofing |
| 04:31.39 | acidslep | oh |
| 04:31.43 | acidslep | what aboot then? |
| 04:31.48 | lolie | Nyle pickcoder bumbar:x:1000:1000:n/a,,,:/home/bumbar:/bin/bash |
| 04:32.18 | pickcoder | acidslep: ifconfig hw ether <mac> ethX |
| 04:32.26 | pickcoder | provided your nic driver supports it |
| 04:32.40 | infotron | provided the hardware does too |
| 04:32.47 | Nyle | acidslep, ifconfig eth0 down hw ether 00:00:00:00:00:00;ifup eth0; |
| 04:32.50 | Nyle | etc.etc. |
| 04:33.03 | Nyle | acidslep, man ifconfig |
| 04:33.05 | Eitan | burd: well basically there seems to have been spontaneous errors generated in my debian installation. Now after a manual fsck, grub says "Error 17" on boot. I have no idea why any of this happened. |
| 04:33.22 | Eitan | Nyle: any idea what went wrong and how to fix it? |
| 04:33.29 | Nyle | acidslep, ifconfig [interface name] hw ether [new MAC address] |
| 04:33.31 | Nyle | etc. etc. |
| 04:33.36 | Nyle | Eitan, hang on |
| 04:33.40 | pickcoder | nite |
| 04:33.44 | Nyle | nite |
| 04:33.48 | Eitan | nyle: no prob, thanks for helping... |
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| 04:34.03 | infotron | !tell Eitan -about rescue |
| 04:34.05 | Nyle | error 17 is what? |
| 04:34.09 | Nyle | partition can't be found or something |
| 04:34.12 | Nyle | or bad fs |
| 04:34.19 | Nyle | !grub errros |
| 04:34.21 | Nyle | !grub errrors |
| 04:34.23 | Nyle | no? |
| 04:34.47 | Nyle | dpkg grub errors is http://www.uruk.org/orig-grub/errors.html a list of grub errors |
| 04:34.47 | dpkg | ...but grub errors is already something else... |
| 04:34.51 | Nyle | oh it is |
| 04:34.53 | Nyle | h |
| 04:35.00 | Nyle | !grub errors |
| 04:35.00 | dpkg | grub errors are at http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Stage2-errors.html#Stage2%20errors |
| 04:35.06 | lolie | Nyle: sudo chown -R bumbar.1000 public_html |
| 04:35.07 | Nyle | doh |
| 04:35.08 | lolie | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:35.17 | Nyle | lolie, no idea whats up with your problem |
| 04:35.23 | lolie | heh |
| 04:35.36 | Nyle | 17 : Cannot mount selected partition |
| 04:35.36 | Nyle | This error is returned if the partition requested exists, but the filesystem type cannot be recognized by GRUB |
| 04:35.37 | lolie | it just that the site i uploaded there is an image folder with images and everythign else outside like index.html |
| 04:35.48 | lolie | so when it tryes to acess the images it doesnt add the ~username |
| 04:35.54 | Nyle | you have fsck manually and fixed it and rebooted and now this |
| 04:36.00 | lolie | its like http://127.0.0.1/images/ ... |
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| 04:36.11 | lolie | i need it to ask for http?127.0.0.1/~username/images |
| 04:36.14 | lolie | get it? |
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| 04:36.19 | Solet | is there a package for jack the ripper? google and apt-cache are turning up empty |
| 04:36.33 | Nyle | lolie, what are you trying to do/ |
| 04:36.35 | infotron | john the ripper? |
| 04:36.39 | Nyle | john |
| 04:36.44 | lolie | just have a little tiny site work the way its supposed to |
| 04:36.46 | castoff | Solet john not jack |
| 04:36.49 | Solet | oh >.< |
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| 04:37.03 | lolie | Nyle: i uploaded a site with a folder with images called "images" and index.html |
| 04:37.23 | lolie | Nyle: when i point my browser to index > http://127.0.0.1/~username/index.thml it comes up |
| 04:37.51 | lolie | Nyle: but the images that are upposed to show up on the page are trying to come from http://127.0.0.1/images/ |
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| 04:37.56 | Nyle | Eitan, no clue man.. try live cd and fsck again or mount again or try file -s /dev/blah |
| 04:37.59 | n-iCe | hello, how do I remove an old kernel installed? |
| 04:37.59 | Nyle | see what it returns |
| 04:38.05 | lolie | Nyle: not from http://127.0.0.1/~username/images |
| 04:38.05 | acidslep | im gonna go crazy :( |
| 04:38.06 | n-iCe | hey Nyle =) |
| 04:38.08 | Nyle | n-iCe, remove with aptitude |
| 04:38.10 | Nyle | n-iCe, hi |
| 04:38.21 | n-iCe | Nyle: what's the command to show all the kernels installed? |
| 04:38.27 | Nyle | lolie, what are the permissions on the images folder? |
| 04:38.40 | lolie | 0755 |
| 04:38.43 | Nyle | lolie, you have anything in ~/public_html/ like .htaccess |
| 04:38.47 | infotron | n-iCe: ls -l /boot/ |
| 04:38.48 | Nyle | something that prevents access\\ |
| 04:38.50 | Nyle | \ |
| 04:38.52 | Nyle | damit keyboard |
| 04:39.05 | lolie | Nyle: that i dont have i odnt have .htaccess in ~/public_html/ |
| 04:39.06 | lolie | do i need one? |
| 04:39.07 | Eitan | nyle: yes... fsck manual and reboot and now error 17... |
| 04:39.27 | Nyle | Eitan, corrupt fs |
| 04:39.33 | Eitan | Nyle: How do I just retrieve my personal files off the drive and reformat and reinstall? |
| 04:39.34 | Nyle | not sure if its fixable |
| 04:39.34 | Solet | ok debian.org says the package name is john but "Package john is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package john has no installation candidate" |
| 04:39.55 | Nyle | Eitan, oh boy, thats a tough one |
| 04:39.56 | Nyle | kinda beyond my skills level |
| 04:39.56 | Nyle | sorry |
| 04:40.07 | Eitan | Nyle: can anyone else here help with that? |
| 04:40.10 | lolie | Nyle: any idea how should this .htaccess look like? |
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| 04:40.10 | Nyle | Eitan, if you can't mount it you'd have to grep for file headers |
| 04:40.13 | Nyle | raw data |
| 04:40.18 | Nyle | lolie, google for it |
| 04:40.23 | Nyle | if you don't have it, don't worry about it |
| 04:40.31 | lolie | i dont have it |
| 04:40.34 | Nyle | lolie, 755 should work |
| 04:40.40 | lolie | but its looking |
| 04:40.44 | Nyle | lolie, what are the perms on the files themselves? |
| 04:40.48 | Eitan | nyle: how do I grep for file headers if the drive won't mount? |
| 04:40.49 | lolie | see when i click on the not shown image image broken link and hit properties |
| 04:41.01 | Nyle | maybe just the directory has 755 and the files udner it are still not readable? |
| 04:41.01 | lolie | it tries to look for images folder in 127.0.0.1/images not in ~username/images |
| 04:41.02 | lolie | get it? |
| 04:41.10 | Nyle | o see |
| 04:41.13 | lolie | its just not looking in the right dir thats all |
| 04:41.14 | Solet | anyone know why apt-get cant find 'john'? |
| 04:41.18 | Nyle | so you need to fix your links |
| 04:41.24 | lolie | Nyle: http://192.168.1.104/images/logo.gif |
| 04:41.34 | lolie | crap.. there is like 1000 files with pictures |
| 04:41.37 | Nyle | you need to make your links in index.html piont to http://blahblah/~username/images/ |
| 04:41.39 | lolie | .. cant i move images elswehre? |
| 04:41.45 | lolie | or have it read from ~username/ ? |
| 04:41.48 | Nyle | lolie, learn to use perl/regexp |
| 04:41.51 | Nyle | and or sed |
| 04:41.53 | Eitan | I'm going to go see what I can do with the debian installer |
| 04:42.04 | Nyle | Solet, its probably not packaged |
| 04:42.05 | Nyle | !jtr |
| 04:42.45 | lolie | Nyle: any other way solving this without changing links? |
| 04:42.49 | Nyle | ahh |
| 04:42.53 | Nyle | its in etch backports |
| 04:42.57 | Nyle | http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=john |
| 04:43.07 | Nyle | lolie, no |
| 04:43.13 | Nyle | lolie, links MUST be changed |
| 04:43.16 | lolie | ugh |
| 04:43.24 | Nyle | lolie, try #apache, as there maybe a way to do it through redirection |
| 04:43.27 | Nyle | somehow |
| 04:43.28 | Solet | nyle: what does it mean "backports" |
| 04:43.30 | Nyle | I'm not sure |
| 04:43.34 | Nyle | !backports |
| 04:43.34 | dpkg | from memory, backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port, http://backports.org/. Ask me about <simple sid backport> and <backport caveat>, <backports.org> |
| 04:43.37 | lolie | i dont understand why are the images trying to lookin 127.0.0.1/images instead of ~username/images |
| 04:43.52 | Nyle | lolie, pastebin your index.html somewhere |
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| 04:43.56 | lolie | ok |
| 04:43.57 | Nyle | lets take a look at your links |
| 04:44.10 | lolie | well there is a whole site runing |
| 04:44.12 | lolie | www.vtrail.com |
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| 04:44.31 | lolie | basicly i downloaded that entire site from that server and then put it in ~username/public_html |
| 04:44.38 | Nyle | well duh |
| 04:44.40 | lolie | and try to run.. but the images are .. u know the story ll |
| 04:44.43 | Nyle | of course its not going to work |
| 04:44.54 | Nyle | you downloaded the site from / and put into /public_html |
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| 04:44.58 | Nyle | linsk will defintely be broken |
| 04:45.05 | Nyle | so will the images and rest of the paths |
| 04:45.13 | castoff | lolie look at httrack to suck a site down |
| 04:45.13 | lolie | ok |
| 04:45.18 | lolie | how come links arent broken? page to page |
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| 04:45.24 | lolie | its just that images folder thats not connected with rest |
| 04:45.25 | Nyle | dunno |
| 04:45.29 | Nyle | my gf is online |
| 04:45.31 | lolie | just because its trying to find it in / basicly |
| 04:45.34 | Nyle | i gotta go i maybe around here n there |
| 04:45.36 | Nyle | bye |
| 04:45.40 | lolie | gay |
| 04:45.47 | lolie | could someone help me :) |
| 04:45.49 | lolie | enouf ?? :P |
| 04:45.51 | lolie | i know u smart here |
| 04:46.05 | Solet | Nyle: there's no i686 link on http://packages.debian.org/etch-backports/john |
| 04:46.15 | Nyle | Solet, hmm |
| 04:46.26 | Nyle | !bpo |
| 04:46.26 | dpkg | backports.org is an unofficial repository of backports for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Read http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions ask me about <backports>. A sample line for your sources.list is: deb http://www.backports.org/debian etch-backports main contrib non-free. Once you've added that line, aptitude update && aptitude install debian-backports-keyring && aptitude update |
| 04:46.55 | castoff | lolie if you are trying to copy a site look at httrack |
| 04:47.03 | Nyle | etch-backports (admin): active password cracking tool |
| 04:47.03 | Nyle | 1.7.2-3~bpo40+1 [backports]: alpha amd64 arm hppa i386 ia64 mips powerpc s390 sparc |
| 04:47.06 | Nyle | 1.6-40.3~bpo40+1 [backports]: mipsel |
| 04:47.08 | lolie | castoff no |
| 04:47.09 | Nyle | look |
| 04:47.10 | Nyle | i386 |
| 04:47.11 | lolie | tahts my site i made it heh |
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| 04:47.30 | castoff | lolie ok |
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| 04:49.18 | acidslep | oh well |
| 04:49.22 | acidslep | this is getting crazy |
| 04:49.24 | acidslep | im going to bed |
| 04:49.30 | acidslep | thanks for the help sorta :P |
| 04:49.35 | acidslep | g'night everyone |
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| 04:54.38 | Eitan | Nyle: basically the debian installer can't mount the drive and just lists sector error after sector error... what do you think that means? |
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| 04:56.25 | streuner | What kind of CPU do you have? |
| 04:57.03 | Eitan | intel p4 |
| 04:57.25 | Nyle | sector errors |
| 04:57.27 | Nyle | ooh |
| 04:57.30 | Nyle | bad physical disk? |
| 04:57.37 | assem | just had X crash and black screen on me, responsive to ctrl alt del but couldn't switch terms, X.org shows: gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X-error - restarting. my log in gdm/:0.log shows : Error in I830WaitLpRing()... any ideas? |
| 04:57.44 | Eitan | nyle: that's what I'm suspecting... |
| 04:57.55 | Nyle | boot live cd |
| 04:57.57 | Nyle | run badblocks scan |
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| 04:58.16 | Eitan | nyle: the live CD... is that something I have to download and burn? |
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| 04:59.02 | streuner | use grml |
| 04:59.04 | streuner | !grml |
| 04:59.05 | dpkg | grml is a bootable CD (Live-CD) originally <based on> Knoppix, now Debian. grml includes a collection of GNU/Linux software especially for users of texttools and system administrators. grml provides automatic hardware detection. You can use grml for example as a rescue system, for analyzing systems/networks or as a working environment. http://grml.org/, or #grml @ irc.freenode.net |
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| 04:59.32 | streuner | !factinfo grml |
| 04:59.32 | dpkg | grml -- last modified at Sat Jun 14 05:47:05 2008 by gsimmons!~gsimmons@124-168-19-126.dyn.iinet.net.au; it has been requested 73 times, last by streuner, 28s ago. |
| 04:59.44 | Eitan | nyle: do you concur? or is there a special debian live-rescue cd? |
| 04:59.53 | streuner | grml |
| 05:00.11 | Gryfelhas | ok.... is there a undelete in debian etch available ? :) |
| 05:00.27 | streuner | restore from backup :-) |
| 05:00.37 | Nyle | yes |
| 05:00.38 | Nyle | there is |
| 05:00.40 | Gryfelhas | I'm using a ext3-partion, where I did delete a file |
| 05:00.45 | Nyle | however you cannot undelete on default debian install |
| 05:00.46 | Nyle | why? |
| 05:00.50 | Nyle | but let me tell you why |
| 05:00.59 | Nyle | becuase debian defaults to ext3 which features journaling |
| 05:01.06 | Nyle | and as such, it doesn't suport undelete |
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| 05:01.10 | Nyle | so you're pretty much fucked. |
| 05:01.15 | Nyle | do what streuner says |
| 05:01.23 | Eitan | nyle: thanks |
| 05:01.32 | Eitan | streuner: thanks |
| 05:01.35 | erpo | Gryfelhas: You are not out of luck. |
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| 05:01.43 | erpo | Gryfelhas: http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html |
| 05:01.44 | Nyle | Eitan, try something like ubuntu live cd |
| 05:01.47 | Nyle | or damn small linux |
| 05:01.53 | Nyle | or anything for thaat matter |
| 05:01.55 | Gryfelhas | thx erpo |
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| 05:02.14 | erpo | Gryfelhas: You're welcome. |
| 05:02.14 | streuner | Nyle: why *bunt* LIVE? |
| 05:02.22 | Nyle | just ANY live cd |
| 05:02.24 | Nyle | doesn't matter which |
| 05:02.25 | streuner | no |
| 05:02.26 | Gryfelhas | thx to all who awnsered of course ;) |
| 05:02.31 | Nyle | just need to access badblocks |
| 05:02.36 | Nyle | do a scan |
| 05:02.40 | Nyle | any live cd is sufficient |
| 05:02.42 | Nyle | usualy |
| 05:02.42 | streuner | grml is the one he need |
| 05:02.46 | Nyle | fine |
| 05:02.49 | Nyle | whatever |
| 05:02.54 | Nyle | same thing |
| 05:03.06 | streuner | no |
| 05:03.08 | Nyle | use knoppix if you want, why specifically grml? |
| 05:03.15 | Nyle | explain please |
| 05:03.25 | streuner | Nyle: /msg dpkg grml and read the factoid again |
| 05:03.29 | Nyle | i have |
| 05:04.06 | Nyle | WHY grml? |
| 05:04.16 | Nyle | anything would work... boot, run badblocks on the disk |
| 05:04.27 | Nyle | whats the big deal, why do you want himto specifically use grml is my question |
| 05:05.36 | streuner | Why do you want use something which isn't debian? |
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| 05:05.47 | Nyle | why not? |
| 05:06.01 | Nyle | what difference does it make other than you zealoting over debian? |
| 05:06.02 | streuner | because issues are solved within Debian... |
| 05:06.26 | streuner | grml takes care about specfic issues in Debian |
| 05:06.32 | Nyle | for example |
| 05:06.36 | Nyle | in his particular case |
| 05:06.43 | Nyle | how is grml more helpful than say another generic live cd? |
| 05:06.51 | streuner | more tools |
| 05:07.31 | streuner | one is designed for a rescue system, the other for showing people Linux |
| 05:07.33 | Nyle | for example? |
| 05:07.57 | streuner | clamav |
| 05:08.00 | Nyle | and badblocks is not included in those other live cds? |
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| 05:08.09 | Nyle | how is clamav applicable here? |
| 05:08.18 | streuner | clamav is on grml, but surely not on most of the LIVE-CDs... |
| 05:08.38 | Nyle | why does he need clamav to run a badblocks scan on his disk? |
| 05:08.51 | erpo | He just said that grml takes care about specific issues in Debian. Clearly Debian needs clamav to be run on it more than other distros. |
| 05:08.57 | erpo | ducks. |
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| 05:09.03 | Nyle | :) |
| 05:09.03 | streuner | Are you sure that badblocks is even in that mentioned Live-CD? |
| 05:09.10 | Nyle | streuner, yes. |
| 05:09.13 | streuner | is sure about grml |
| 05:09.38 | newsense | !grml |
| 05:09.38 | dpkg | grml is a bootable CD (Live-CD) originally <based on> Knoppix, now Debian. grml includes a collection of GNU/Linux software especially for users of texttools and system administrators. grml provides automatic hardware detection. You can use grml for example as a rescue system, for analyzing systems/networks or as a working environment. http://grml.org/, or #grml @ irc.freenode.net |
| 05:09.41 | Nyle | if you think that the ubuntu cd can't be used a live rescue system cd, than you're gravely mistaken |
| 05:09.50 | newsense | sorry |
| 05:09.51 | Nyle | i fyou think knoppix or dsl do not contain badblocks you are again mistaken |
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| 05:10.57 | newsense | debian has a live cd, so what |
| 05:11.21 | streuner | !listkeys live cd war |
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| 05:11.23 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'live cd war' by key returned no results. |
| 05:12.00 | streuner | looks Nyle straight in the eyes and says "Hokus Pokus" :-) |
| 05:12.13 | Nyle | streuner, dude |
| 05:12.17 | Nyle | sit down. |
| 05:12.26 | Nyle | abra cadabra |
| 05:12.27 | streuner | already sit |
| 05:12.32 | Nyle | sil salabim bamba |
| 05:12.34 | Nyle | saladu |
| 05:12.36 | Nyle | sala dim |
| 05:12.53 | newsense | !debian live |
| 05:12.53 | dpkg | from memory, debian-live is in live-helper. make-live is a utility to build Debian Live systems. It takes a Debian mirror as an input and outputs a live system image (ISO image for CDs and DVDs, or tarball for netboot). make-live is gaining significant functionality and stability as development continutes. Homepage: http://debian-live.alioth.debian.org/, or irc://irc.debian.org/#debian-live |
| 05:12.56 | Nyle | Zim Zalabim Bamba! Zala Du! Zala Dim! |
| 05:13.02 | Nyle | see my magic spell |
| 05:13.17 | newsense | got any gems or rubys? |
| 05:13.24 | Nyle | I will cast it on your and turn you into a program that can be DeRazzed by the MCP |
| 05:13.28 | Nyle | Master Control Program |
| 05:13.33 | Nyle | Clu. |
| 05:13.36 | Nyle | muuahahaha |
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| 05:13.39 | erpo | de-rezzed. |
| 05:13.46 | Nyle | w/e |
| 05:13.51 | Nyle | its been like 20 yeasr since i saw it |
| 05:13.52 | Nyle | :) |
| 05:14.02 | streuner | time to see it again |
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| 05:14.36 | Nyle | streuner, you have a kids? |
| 05:14.42 | erpo | The Power they sip from their identity disks looked so good when I was a kid. I was kinda dissapointed when I found out it was a visual effect. |
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| 05:15.19 | Nyle | hehe yeh |
| 05:15.23 | Nyle | I liked it |
| 05:15.29 | Nyle | I think the matrix borrows from it |
| 05:15.32 | Nyle | heavily |
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| 05:16.24 | erpo | What? No! The matrix was totally original. |
| 05:16.40 | Nyle | bullshit |
| 05:16.51 | mcp08 | give Nyle only 50 percent energie |
| 05:16.57 | Nyle | programs being real people inside a computer/machine world |
| 05:16.59 | Nyle | c'mon |
| 05:17.01 | Nyle | thats all Tron |
| 05:17.01 | erpo | You need ops for that. |
| 05:17.20 | Nyle | sure matrix story was diff |
| 05:17.27 | mcp08 | Who is an OP in order of MCP? :-)) |
| 05:17.28 | Nyle | but it still borrowes a lot from tron concept |
| 05:18.37 | streuner | see, Nyle is a little bit slower now |
| 05:18.40 | erpo | Whoops. Batteries are almost dead. Gotta go. |
| 05:18.58 | Nyle | (01:18:41) Afsana: I missed talking to you |
| 05:18.59 | Nyle | yeh |
| 05:19.08 | Nyle | slow cuz my girl is talking |
| 05:19.09 | Nyle | heh |
| 05:19.19 | Nyle | she misses me :( |
| 05:19.26 | elmarian6 | hello. somebody use rsync for backups ? |
| 05:19.26 | streuner | hm, that makes sense then :-/ |
| 05:19.34 | erpo | elmarian6: I did. |
| 05:20.05 | elmarian6 | you can ONLY preserve user/group if your root at the storage ? |
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| 05:20.12 | Nyle | !anyone use rsync |
| 05:20.12 | dpkg | No, no one uses rsync, not even the people who use it. |
| 05:20.38 | erpo | elmarian6: Yes, that's right. |
| 05:21.12 | erpo | elmarian6: Once you've chown'd something to a different user, how could you change or overwrite the file again? |
| 05:22.02 | elmarian6 | is there a clever way to make backups ? i mean i dont want to transfer 20 gigs with a tar.gz |
| 05:22.17 | erpo | elmarian6: ZFS's send and recv functions? |
| 05:22.18 | elmarian6 | but rsynk doesnt preserve ownership :( |
| 05:22.29 | erpo | Check out zfs on fuse. It's the bees knees. |
| 05:22.36 | elmarian6 | okas |
| 05:22.38 | erpo | Ok, really gotta go. No batteries. |
| 05:22.41 | elmarian6 | thanks |
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| 05:36.44 | psibyrion | how can i tell apt-get to include a patch? i try with synaptic |
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| 05:41.37 | streuner | !patch |
| 05:41.37 | dpkg | patch is, like, just a tool to handle text file mutations according to a common format known as 'diff'. For kernel patching use (depending on type of patch): 'patch -p1 < patch.diff' or 'zcat patch.gz | patch -p1' or 'bzcat patch.bz2 | patch -p1' |
| 05:42.01 | streuner | what kind of patch is that? |
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| 05:51.13 | psibyrion | lol |
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| 05:51.34 | psibyrion | i know what apatch is i was just wonderinfn if i had to do it by hand |
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| 06:07.08 | Nyle | (02:04:38) Afsana: maybe you watch other girls too |
| 06:07.12 | Nyle | streuner, ahhh boy |
| 06:07.19 | Nyle | i've known this chic for 22 years |
| 06:07.23 | Nyle | still don't trust me |
| 06:07.24 | Nyle | lol |
| 06:07.30 | Nyle | sighs |
| 06:08.31 | infotron | she knows you too well ;) |
| 06:08.37 | Nyle | heh |
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| 06:08.47 | Nyle | i grew up with her |
| 06:08.50 | Nyle | gonna marry her soon |
| 06:08.57 | Nyle | she still bugs me a lot :) |
| 06:09.02 | infotron | real soon now |
| 06:10.04 | Nyle | (01:27:37) Afsana: and you make me smile |
| 06:10.08 | Nyle | (01:28:11) Afsana: you make me smile |
| 06:10.12 | Nyle | hehe |
| 06:10.16 | Nyle | shes mine! |
| 06:10.22 | Nyle | and no one elses! |
| 06:10.26 | Nyle | yay! |
| 06:10.56 | Nyle | well its time for me to hit the sack |
| 06:11.14 | infotron | I'm so unjeallous. |
| 06:11.17 | Nyle | 11:am in pakistan |
| 06:11.25 | Nyle | and its 2:11 am here |
| 06:11.31 | Nyle | i had to stay up to talk to her |
| 06:11.35 | Nyle | now im about to pass out |
| 06:11.47 | Nyle | g'nite |
| 06:14.01 | et | is there a way to switch from grub2 to grub1 on lenny? (not critical, it's just i wanted to try grub2 out and have a look at it, it's okay, but i like 1 better ;)) |
| 06:14.10 | cydork | Nyle: TMI |
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| 06:30.41 | huangjs | Hi, I met a strange problem. I have machine which is behind a home router with port 22 forwarded to it. I frequently(not every time, that why it's strange) halt at SYN_RECV when I want to connect it through ssh. I have no iptables been set. Does anyone know what's problem it has? |
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| 06:31.12 | barque | alright folks, cutting it short, Windows Laptop has malware, sick and tired of Windows, need Debian Linux. Out of blank CDs/DVDs (only got 1 left) so need a minimal install via DVD or CD then grab the rest of the internet. where to go. |
| 06:32.21 | liable | get the netinst |
| 06:32.45 | barque | link plzplzplz |
| 06:32.57 | liable | !d-i |
| 06:32.58 | dpkg | 4.0r3 etch is now the "Stable" debian release (April 8, 2007) see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ for images. Sarge is still available at http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ Developers page is http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ .. If you want to make custom install cds, start with d-i. IRC: oftc.net: #debian-boot. Also ask about <errata>. |
| 06:33.00 | barque | is it some small ISO or something? |
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| 06:33.06 | liable | yep |
| 06:33.14 | barque | do I need to burn it? I'm booting up from a Knoppix CD I found in my CDs |
| 06:33.39 | barque | I swear I'm not booting that Windows s**t again |
| 06:33.40 | liable | you can use debootstrap if you want |
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| 06:34.14 | barque | Hmm.... |
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| 06:34.40 | barque | what's a good utility I can install quickly on Knoppix and burn the thing |
| 06:34.52 | infotron | !netinst |
| 06:34.53 | dpkg | i guess netinst is a small CD or set of floppy images which installs Debian using an Internet connection, but is not required for a base install to complete, see http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ If you use a dialup connection, ask me about <dialup install>. <netboot miniiso> |
| 06:34.54 | barque | I've got 1 DVD left |
| 06:35.09 | infotron | or goodbye-windows.com - no dvd/cd needed. |
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| 06:35.36 | barque | I must say, I do want to end up with Debian :) |
| 06:35.45 | barque | if that's where goodbye-windows.com will take me |
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| 06:36.15 | rmichel | morgen |
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| 06:37.02 | infotron | works on everything but win2k3 server, and Me. |
| 06:37.52 | infotron | b4ggi0: that's right. it installs debian. |
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| 06:38.40 | jimbo | is very drunks!!!! |
| 06:39.22 | mikaa | Hello there. Is there a way to make "fakeroot make-kpkg ..." (building a kernel) NOT ask me about everything, as the configuration I made with make menuconfig is what I want. Seems like the double work if it's going to ask me again? |
| 06:39.24 | infotron | jimbo: careful. your binary bits are upside down. at least they're in the right order. |
| 06:40.05 | infotron | mikaa: cp /boot/config..... .config ; make old-config ; make-kpkg -rfakeroot ... |
| 06:40.08 | barque | grrr |
| 06:40.16 | barque | I really don't want to boot up windows again |
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| 06:40.21 | barque | .exe file :( |
| 06:40.33 | barque | Ok how do I erase and install Debian from inside a booted Knoppix session |
| 06:40.38 | infotron | why'd you use a knoppix dvd to install debian anyway? |
| 06:40.48 | infotron | !i-g |
| 06:40.48 | dpkg | I heard "ig" is Installation Guide...see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual for Etch 4.0r3 stable, or http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/installmanual for now oldstable Sarge (3.1). Lenny is Testing! |
| 06:41.03 | infotron | install from running linux systems, near the end of the guide |
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| 06:41.10 | barque | kay |
| 06:41.16 | barque | is it hard? :(... like Gentoo? |
| 06:41.40 | mikaa | barque: if you follow what it says, no :-) |
| 06:41.40 | infotron | one or two bits, but not as hard as gentoo hehehe |
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| 06:43.22 | mikaa | infotron: thanks, but how about if I do not want to use the config-'uname -r' file from /boot/, seeing as it contains alot I don't need?:-) After make menuconfig I simply saved a .config in /home |
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| 06:43.40 | barque | gah can't find it |
| 06:43.51 | barque | I'm at the i386 index |
| 06:43.54 | jimbo | infotron: apt-get install beer in my hands |
| 06:43.57 | infotron | mikaa: copy the wanted config to .config |
| 06:44.04 | infotron | !beer jimbo |
| 06:44.05 | dpkg | pours a pint of Delirium Tremens for jimbo |
| 06:44.06 | barque | debian.org/releases/stable/i386/index |
| 06:44.42 | infotron | barque: 'it'? define 'it' that you cannot find. |
| 06:44.49 | path_ | is amd still debian's sponsor? |
| 06:45.06 | barque | the install from whitin a running Linux system |
| 06:45.24 | barque | the install from whitin-a-running-Linux-system |
| 06:45.38 | infotron | path_: didn't you just ask that on the other network? |
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| 06:46.09 | barque | LOL |
| 06:46.09 | jimbo | dpkg: thanks |
| 06:46.09 | dpkg | jimbo: pas de quoi |
| 06:46.09 | barque | I do that sometimes |
| 06:46.17 | path_ | infotron, and you read me on both :-D |
| 06:46.21 | infotron | barque: 2-3 clicks from google. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wear-levelling |
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| 06:46.30 | infotron | woops. 1s |
| 06:46.34 | infotron | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apds03.html.en |
| 06:46.48 | infotron | larts the mozilla x11 clipboard funkyness |
| 06:47.20 | fengor | damn it infotron was quicker with the install manual ;p but there you are barque |
| 06:47.26 | fengor | D3 in the install manual |
| 06:47.28 | jimbo | dpkg: where are you from? |
| 06:47.28 | dpkg | right diddily-dodelly here! |
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| 06:47.34 | IsilZha | hallo. after installing debian with a netinstall cd i'm still asked by aptitude to insert the cd in some cases when i try to install new software. why? |
| 06:48.01 | fengor | IsilZha: because he has listed the cd in the sources.list |
| 06:48.04 | infotron | !tell IsilZha -about sources.list |
| 06:48.16 | infotron | IsilZha: because cd is local, and usually faster than network access. |
| 06:48.22 | IsilZha | infotron: i see. thank you |
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| 06:48.25 | fengor | edit your /etc/apt/sources.list accordingly to point to a debian mirror and comment the cd line out |
| 06:48.28 | barque | yay! |
| 06:48.52 | barque | I should probably nuke the hdd with qtparted or something first eh? |
| 06:49.31 | fengor | nope , you need filesystems to install into barque ;p |
| 06:49.58 | barque | well then I'll put an ext2 partition... no? :/ |
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| 06:50.28 | barque | I seriously doubt I'm gonna need my current NTFS partition from that horrid operating system |
| 06:50.33 | barque | soon to become x-operating system |
| 06:50.58 | fengor | hehe yes but the term nuke always associates with barren radioactive waste never to be used again ;p |
| 06:51.02 | infotron | don't let us hear you cry about it after the fact :) |
| 06:51.07 | fengor | so i refrain from nuking my disks |
| 06:51.22 | barque | I put up with Gentoo for sooooo long |
| 06:51.29 | fengor | if you meant with nuke. clear the hd and repartition it for debian needs feel free to go ahead |
| 06:51.30 | barque | what makes you think I'm not gonna stand Debian ? :D |
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| 06:51.58 | barque | The fact that really turned me away from Gentoo was the whole hard/soft masking thing |
| 06:52.11 | barque | which was gay (not trying to offend homosexuals) |
| 06:52.16 | infotron | I hope etch isn't "too stable" for you. |
| 06:52.20 | barque | gay mean GHEY |
| 06:52.31 | fengor | gay as in funny/merry? ;p |
| 06:52.37 | jelly-home | !gay |
| 06:52.37 | dpkg | It's OK to fantasize about men and to enjoy anal stimulation. It doesn't mean you're "gay". So stop projecting your insecurities onto others. Using this term as a derogatory adjective is very offensive, so do not use it as such. If you continue acting like a child, expect to be devoiced. |
| 06:52.40 | barque | No not the classical definition either |
| 06:52.47 | infotron | hahahahaaaa good call jelly-home. |
| 06:53.06 | barque | I'm no homophone honestly... I was just trying to utilize it's common meaning nowadays |
| 06:53.25 | barque | homophobe* |
| 06:53.30 | barque | b and n close :P |
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| 06:53.37 | fengor | common meanings can change for the better. not using the meaning for the worse is the first step to that barque |
| 06:53.41 | barque | s/it's/its |
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| 06:54.06 | barque | So I really meant like "pain in the arse" |
| 06:54.17 | barque | hard soft masking... I couldn't install latest |
| 06:54.22 | barque | and if I tried, something would break in there |
| 06:54.27 | barque | somewhere... |
| 06:54.35 | barque | unless I just went back |
| 06:54.44 | barque | and also *compiling EVERYTHING* |
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| 06:54.48 | barque | which was the biggest pain EVER |
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| 06:55.06 | BRLB | <monkeylice@ef> RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPESEED OIL |
| 06:55.07 | BRLB | <Needtoknow@ef> Ok were up in 3 |
| 06:55.07 | BRLB | <Needtoknow@ef> 2 |
| 06:55.08 | barque | and I didn't wanna buy into the Ubuntu hype... so I said heck, Debian's the man! |
| 06:55.10 | BRLB | <NotAppreciating@ef> What the fuck are you rambling about? |
| 06:55.10 | BRLB | <Needtoknow@ef> 1 |
| 06:55.11 | BRLB | <Nixon@ef> RAAAAAAAAAAGE |
| 06:55.14 | BRLB | <monkeylice@ef> RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPESEED OIL |
| 06:55.16 | BRLB | <Nixon@ef> where re we going? |
| 06:55.20 | BRLB | <Nixon@ef> Ubuntu? |
| 06:55.21 | BRLB | <Nixon@ef> shit |
| 06:55.24 | BRLB | <Nixon@ef> i can't get there, dude |
| 06:55.26 | BRLB | <Needtoknow@ef> no |
| 06:55.28 | BRLB | <monkeylice@ef> DCC TSEND LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL |
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| 06:55.42 | BRLB | <Nixon@ef> DCC (SEND) FARTS |
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| 06:55.42 | liable | !ops BRLB needs a ban |
| 06:55.43 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: liable complains about: BRLB needs a ban |
| 06:55.58 | liable | thanke |
| 06:55.59 | barque | cross channel thing? |
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| 06:56.09 | barque | EFnet? :P |
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| 06:56.33 | barque | ok, after the laptop ... it's the main machine's turn |
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| 06:56.56 | barque | yeah probably it is |
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| 06:59.15 | infotron | well, now if only the bot could forget seen brlb *sigh* |
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| 07:04.10 | mikaa | http://pastebin.com/m58f49b46 bleh, getting this error when trying to make-kpkg clean :-( |
| 07:04.34 | infotron | that's a funny error. oh wait, it's a url. *doh* |
| 07:05.03 | infotron | xen eh. |
| 07:05.11 | path_ | #make[1]: *** No rule to make target `/usr/src/linux-2.6.25.3/arch/xen/Makefile'. Stop. |
| 07:05.12 | infotron | did you enable xen? do you need it? |
| 07:05.43 | mikaa | not as far as i can remember. hrmf |
| 07:05.50 | infotron | echo -e "foo:\n\ttrue" >> /usr/src/linux-2.6.25.3/arch/xen/Makefile |
| 07:06.04 | infotron | bad hack btw :) |
| 07:06.06 | phreak | How do I install a package without updating alternatives with it? (It's an editor) |
| 07:08.18 | liable | mikaa: you need to disable xen with menuconfig |
| 07:08.20 | path_ | what actually does foo infotron ? |
| 07:08.29 | infotron | it's a dummy target. |
| 07:08.41 | liable | i asked the kernel team and they say its supposed to be there, i got no idea why they think that |
| 07:08.47 | path_ | interesting :] |
| 07:08.51 | adama | phreak: do update-alternatives and change the alternative back |
| 07:09.01 | infotron | eg, make foo :) |
| 07:09.17 | adama | don't know other than that |
| 07:09.18 | mikaa | liable: ah, will try that :-) |
| 07:09.22 | infotron | but your pwd needs to be the same as that makefile, or use make -C /usr/src/linux-2.6.25.3/arch/xen foo |
| 07:09.34 | infotron | or make -f /usr/src/linux-2.6.25.3/arch/xen/Makefile foo (I think) |
| 07:09.37 | phreak | adama: That's a hastle so I'd rather not, and I have to check before what is currently set (shared box) |
| 07:09.44 | phreak | adama: But ok, thanks anyway. |
| 07:09.50 | infotron | make: *** No rule to make target `bed'. Stop. |
| 07:09.52 | infotron | damn :( |
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| 07:11.36 | mikaa | Thanks infotron and liable, works now! :-) |
| 07:12.05 | adama | infotron: apt-get install girlfriend |
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| 07:12.31 | barque | can you give a poor newbie a few hints? <:)... what's the ports/portage thing of Debian? how to upgrade it? apt-get upgrade? update? |
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| 07:12.50 | barque | and installing is apt-get install blah or apt-get deinstall blah |
| 07:12.55 | adama | both |
| 07:12.56 | barque | etc. |
| 07:13.04 | adama | >:D |
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| 07:13.13 | barque | which one does what? :P |
| 07:13.22 | barque | for upgrade update |
| 07:13.25 | adama | apt-get update refreshes your repos |
| 07:13.33 | adama | apt-get update updates your packages |
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| 07:13.47 | barque | oh so apt-get update blender, gets latest version of blender |
| 07:13.56 | barque | apt-get upgrade gets new pkg list or something |
| 07:14.08 | infotron | !upgrade |
| 07:14.09 | dpkg | somebody said upgrade was what keeps your box from getting r00ted, or what you do with apt-get. Do an apt-get update first, and then an apt-get upgrade. ask me about 'security', or if you upgrade to a new stable version, read the release notes first |
| 07:14.28 | adama | apt-get dist-upgrade upgrades your packages, allowing installation of additional packages |
| 07:14.43 | infotron | and compiling is not a requirement. |
| 07:14.52 | barque | yeah that I know :) |
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| 07:14.56 | adama | to get the latest version of blender do: apt-get update; apt-get install blender |
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| 07:15.11 | barque | let's say I have blender installed already |
| 07:15.27 | adama | or apt-get update; apt-get upgrade, but that will install the newest version of every package you've installed |
| 07:15.32 | adama | yeah the first thing |
| 07:15.38 | infotron | !tell barque about releases |
| 07:15.55 | barque | so apt-get update, gets latest list or something... then upgrade updates the installed stuff |
| 07:16.13 | infotron | they're slow and bug hunting methodical, but it's never too stable for 'stable'. :) |
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| 07:16.21 | infotron | barque: yup |
| 07:16.30 | infotron | s/or something...// |
| 07:17.21 | barque | God ... if I could just find a fast way to convert all those wgl calls to xgl |
| 07:17.29 | barque | in my projects :P |
| 07:17.39 | adama | man sed? |
| 07:17.48 | barque | is that some script :P |
| 07:17.58 | barque | me no like script :o |
| 07:18.22 | adama | it's less than a script |
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| 07:18.49 | adama | more like a single search-and-replace function |
| 07:18.57 | barque | sigh, AVG on the Windows machine .... my gosh |
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| 07:19.21 | barque | This utter failure of an operating system |
| 07:19.39 | barque | autorun.inf... |
| 07:19.49 | barque | if I could find the man who thought autoruns were cool |
| 07:19.50 | maligor | mm.. don't think anything refers to them as xgl |
| 07:19.53 | barque | I'd disembowl him |
| 07:20.16 | dondelelcaro | it's not like they can't be disabled |
| 07:20.23 | barque | yeah but too late |
| 07:20.25 | dondelelcaro | and in any case, they're not terribly on topic here |
| 07:20.38 | barque | and the config menus of the OS |
| 07:20.44 | barque | and the fact that they're ON BY DEFAULT |
| 07:20.48 | infotron | regardless of how you design it, layer 8 network issues will abound |
| 07:21.06 | barque | Aside from badly written network services |
| 07:21.11 | barque | (this thing was SP3) |
| 07:21.12 | barque | XP |
| 07:21.15 | psibyrion | OK |
| 07:21.20 | psibyrion | i have a dumb question |
| 07:21.24 | maligor | when did this turn to #windows :P |
| 07:21.24 | infotron | yeah, and why do we need to hear the midless drevel we've moved away from? |
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| 07:21.43 | infotron | psibyrion: it's less dumb if you ask |
| 07:21.45 | barque | :P |
| 07:21.47 | infotron | !tell psibyrion -about ask |
| 07:22.04 | barque | I'm moving away from it in a short while, no worries :P |
| 07:22.12 | barque | btw is OpenGL installed by default? |
| 07:22.15 | infotron | I'll take a dummy over an ignorant one any day. the former is fixable. :) |
| 07:22.16 | barque | the headers, the libs etc.? |
| 07:22.19 | barque | if I install X? |
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| 07:22.41 | psibyrion | where does debian keep its source files for manual compilation? |
| 07:22.44 | infotron | barque: -dev packages are usually not installed unless you're compiling something that relies upon them. |
| 07:22.59 | barque | heh yeah I am going to :) |
| 07:23.04 | infotron | psibyrion: sources.list deb-src entries and apt-get source. (for starters) |
| 07:23.06 | psibyrion | and how do i get apt-get involved? |
| 07:23.31 | psibyrion | grr i have the source |
| 07:23.43 | psibyrion | i checked it out with svn |
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| 07:23.50 | dondelelcaro | psibyrion: you use apt-get to download the source; we keep them in our mirrors. |
| 07:24.03 | infotron | usually the deb and deb-src lines are identical (after the deb/deb-src part). provided the sources are on that repo (official repos do) |
| 07:24.03 | psibyrion | the source for coreboot? |
| 07:24.21 | infotron | yea, apt-get source <package> |
| 07:24.24 | dondelelcaro | psibyrion: what do you mean by coreboot? |
| 07:24.34 | infotron | !+info coreboot |
| 07:24.36 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 07:24.39 | psibyrion | is that the lastest svn? |
| 07:24.56 | infotron | sid is rarely 1:1 with svn |
| 07:25.00 | psibyrion | coreboot is a BIOS repalcement |
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| 07:25.09 | dondelelcaro | psibyrion: uh... coreboot distributes other things, like flashrom or superiotool... |
| 07:25.09 | infotron | well, not totally rare, but not always 1:1 anyway |
| 07:25.20 | dpkg | Package 'coreboot' does not exist. |
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| 07:25.46 | psibyrion | so i need to get the source for flashrom |
| 07:25.46 | dondelelcaro | psibyrion: AFAIK, we don't distribute coreboot |
| 07:25.47 | infotron | is coreboot an ubuntu introduction? |
| 07:25.56 | psibyrion | its in flashrom |
| 07:26.10 | psibyrion | no ubuntu stupid bot |
| 07:26.19 | psibyrion | or person |
| 07:26.22 | psibyrion | lol |
| 07:26.28 | psibyrion | infotron: hi |
| 07:26.46 | infotron | eh? |
| 07:26.50 | psibyrion | coreboot used to be linuxBIOS |
| 07:26.58 | psibyrion | oh i thoguth you were a bot lol |
| 07:27.00 | infotron | ohhhh. |
| 07:27.04 | psibyrion | thought* |
| 07:27.12 | psibyrion | bows |
| 07:27.20 | infotron | you EFAIL that one eh? :) |
| 07:27.26 | infotron | *grin* |
| 07:28.03 | mikaa | i have a feeling that this kernel could be made even more slim hehe |
| 07:28.10 | infotron | my head Hz. time for sleep() |
| 07:28.24 | psibyrion | You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list |
| 07:28.25 | infotron | wonders oph oph and zZZzz |
| 07:28.26 | barque | nooo |
| 07:28.33 | barque | return ; back |
| 07:29.02 | barque | :( |
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| 07:37.29 | portablejim | How do I set a job to only execute if between two times, no matter what time it is called? (The job is a cron job, and I do not want anacron running the particular job if I leave my computer on) |
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| 07:38.05 | portablejim | *leave my computer on => do not leave my computer on |
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| 07:38.55 | et | tell the cronjob the times you want it to run? |
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| 07:43.22 | portablejim | I have, but it seems anacron wants to run the task when I turn on my computer. I like anacron, just I don't want this particular job done if I miss it. |
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| 07:43.51 | Dewi | portablejim: anacron probably provides a way to do that, but I don't use it |
| 07:44.13 | Dewi | portablejim: otherwise you can simply check the system time with perl or bash |
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| 07:45.08 | Dewi | portablejim: http://perldoc.perl.org/functions/localtime.html |
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| 07:50.06 | barque | chroot: cannot run command '/bin/bash': No such file or directory |
| 07:50.15 | barque | /bin/bash is there... what's wrong? |
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| 07:52.07 | Delph | barque: it's there in the chroot? |
| 07:52.18 | barque | ahh nvm, fix'd |
| 07:52.30 | Delph | success. My work here is done. |
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| 08:00.31 | psibyrion | yay! using my brain unstead of being a lamer |
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| 08:00.46 | barque | oh ja? lamor |
| 08:01.00 | barque | you rip off code from our demos lamor |
| 08:01.12 | barque | or trax |
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| 08:01.25 | barque | we will make u look bad in the scene!!1 |
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| 08:02.02 | barque | I hadn't heard that since the Commode Amiga demoscene in the later 80's early 90's :D |
| 08:02.08 | barque | Commodore* |
| 08:02.28 | newsense | old people eww |
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| 08:02.43 | newsense | jk :) |
| 08:02.45 | barque | :D |
| 08:03.19 | barque | You could never see the term lamor statically |
| 08:03.31 | barque | it was always in some twisted sine text scroller with rainbow colors |
| 08:03.40 | barque | along with the rest of the text |
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| 08:07.58 | royori | what to use in order to run debian from vista home basic |
| 08:08.07 | barque | =D |
| 08:08.07 | psibyrion | aptitude or synaptic cannot just fetch the source? |
| 08:08.13 | royori | virtual pc 2007 is not working !? |
| 08:08.15 | barque | what!?!?! |
| 08:08.24 | barque | oh doesn't boot? |
| 08:08.26 | pumpkin0 | royori: dual-boot ? |
| 08:08.33 | barque | huh... it should |
| 08:08.38 | royori | no .. whithin vista |
| 08:08.41 | barque | chose OS as other ..or linux? |
| 08:08.52 | barque | He's trying to run it from whitin a VM |
| 08:09.03 | royori | i can boot to either vista or debian using grub |
| 08:09.12 | pumpkin0 | royori: VM-ware has a ready-to-use debian-image online. |
| 08:09.16 | royori | barque exactly |
| 08:09.33 | barque | try to select OS as linux or other or something |
| 08:09.35 | barque | it should work |
| 08:09.41 | wols_ | royori: virtualbox can do it too |
| 08:09.48 | bernard | while trying to build a package I get a "dpkg-gencontrol: warning: unknown substitution variable ${misc:Depends}" error. How do I fix it? |
| 08:09.50 | barque | ditto for qemu |
| 08:09.53 | barque | :) |
| 08:10.00 | barque | ok |
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| 08:10.05 | barque | I don't know what to mount for /boot |
| 08:10.07 | pumpkin0 | royori: and the VMware player is available for Vista... |
| 08:10.12 | barque | is that even needed? :P |
| 08:10.32 | barque | I have main partition as /dev/hda1 and swap as /dev/hda2 |
| 08:10.41 | barque | so /dev/hda1 mounted as / and /dev/hda1 for swap |
| 08:10.46 | barque | no need for /boot? :P |
| 08:10.54 | pumpkin0 | barque: you can put /boot onto / w/o problems. |
| 08:11.10 | barque | so no need for fstab entry? |
| 08:11.28 | pumpkin0 | barque: nope. Just make sure / is on something bootable by you kernel. |
| 08:11.59 | superlinux | has anyone used the traffic shaping command (tc |
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| 08:12.21 | superlinux | has anyone used the traffic shaping command (tc) on a linux box setup as a bridge? |
| 08:12.26 | pumpkin0 | !anyone |
| 08:12.27 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls>, or <search> |
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| 08:13.07 | [ShapeShifter] | hola |
| 08:13.23 | [ShapeShifter] | hi, there |
| 08:14.17 | superlinux | pumpkin0 what i am really asking about is transparent taffic shaping on a linux bridge |
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| 08:14.30 | psibyrion | is lenny/sid stable? |
| 08:14.41 | aNOOBisa | will mkfs.ext3 format a device? |
| 08:15.11 | pumpkin0 | psycodad: no, stable = etch |
| 08:15.18 | pumpkin0 | aNOOBisa: yes, why not ? |
| 08:15.20 | xand | aNOOBisa: what else would it do? |
| 08:15.24 | KammyDoe | Why does debian mount my OS X partition as readonly when I specify it not to? |
| 08:15.31 | KammyDoe | -o rw... -w... They don't work. |
| 08:15.32 | KammyDoe | Why? |
| 08:15.43 | denkijin | ok |
| 08:15.44 | tarzeau | KammyDoe: what filesystem? |
| 08:15.50 | KammyDoe | hfsplus |
| 08:15.57 | tarzeau | KammyDoe: maybe the filesystem doesn't support it, or it was compiled without support for it |
| 08:16.03 | aNOOBisa | xand, pumpkin: it creates an ext3 journal, so I wasn't sure what an ext3 journal was! |
| 08:16.07 | tarzeau | KammyDoe: which kernel? did you check your kernel configuration? |
| 08:16.08 | KammyDoe | What do you mean, dosen't support it. |
| 08:16.20 | KammyDoe | Every filesystem supports write access. |
| 08:16.27 | tarzeau | KammyDoe: what says: grep HFS /boot/config-`uname -r` |
| 08:16.31 | xand | aNOOBisa: it formats a partition/block device as ext3 |
| 08:16.33 | tarzeau | KammyDoe: but not every software/driver for it |
| 08:16.37 | KammyDoe | Hm |
| 08:16.44 | aNOOBisa | xand: okay thanks for clarification |
| 08:16.55 | tarzeau | KammyDoe: besides that's not true, iso-9660 is read only by standard |
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| 08:17.04 | aNOOBisa | xand: I have never used it so I was kinda wondering :) |
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| 08:17.55 | tarzeau | KammyDoe: you can tell here, i don't like queries for such things |
| 08:18.03 | pumpkin0 | aNOOBisa: ext3 = ext2 fs system with journal (simplyfied) |
| 08:18.06 | tarzeau | KammyDoe: now tell your kernel version and check its documentation |
| 08:18.06 | superlinux | so i need to know how should i connect the linux box, setup as a bridge, directly to my ADSL router. |
| 08:18.11 | KammyDoe | Sorry. but it was a paste |
| 08:18.24 | tarzeau | KammyDoe: a one or two line paste is perfectly fine here as well |
| 08:18.31 | KammyDoe | Kernel: 2.6.18-6-powerpc --- Oh, cool. |
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| 08:18.49 | superlinux | .. and use tc at the same time |
| 08:18.56 | aNOOBisa | pumpkin0: what is a journal? a certain lookuptable for blocks? |
| 08:19.00 | tarzeau | KammyDoe: /usr/src/linux/Documentation is a good place |
| 08:19.05 | KammyDoe | Cool |
| 08:19.13 | tarzeau | KammyDoe: then filesystems/hfs*.txt |
| 08:19.26 | KammyDoe | Ouch; my usr/src is empty |
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| 08:19.37 | meeero | in what file des firefox store it's passwords ..? |
| 08:19.49 | KammyDoe | meeero; it dosen't. :) |
| 08:19.53 | tarzeau | KammyDoe: you can use the option "force" to have write access |
| 08:19.58 | pumpkin0 | aNOOBisa: the savegard against fs-corruption. ext3 should survive a powerfailture or crash way better then ext2. |
| 08:20.00 | tarzeau | KammyDoe: but it says "Use at your own risk." |
| 08:20.14 | pumpkin0 | aNOOBisa: (it does other things too, like speeding up stuff) |
| 08:20.14 | Keele | Hi. I have a problem with samba installation. I had samba properly installed on the very same server, but the config files got messed up. I removed samba with "dpkg --purge samba". Now when I try "apt-get install samba" it fails with the line "Starting Samba daemons: nmbd failed!". Any solutions? |
| 08:20.20 | meeero | it does not ...? i mean those passwords for auto-fillin in forms |
| 08:20.26 | KammyDoe | If you want to get passwords back, meeero, I'd suggest using LiveHTTP headers. It sees all outgoing connections, so if it's in autofill, and you've forgotten it, thats the easiest way to recover them. |
| 08:20.32 | aNOOBisa | dpkg !ext3 |
| 08:20.33 | dpkg | aNOOBisa: i don't know |
| 08:20.53 | pumpkin0 | !tell aNOOBisa about ext3 |
| 08:20.56 | KammyDoe | meeero; I don't know what file it uses, but I think it would be encrypted anyway. :| |
| 08:21.15 | Ciantic | (sid) I have /etc/init.d/lighttpd and I'm trying to figure out how it chooses the chuid username, any ideas? |
| 08:21.35 | Ciantic | and it looks like it uses start-stop-daemon, but I can't see -c --chuid being used in the file at all |
| 08:21.38 | superlinux | it seems that no one is interested in my question |
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| 08:21.39 | KammyDoe | !tell KammyDoe about hfsplus |
| 08:21.48 | aNOOBisa | pumpkin0: gracias Amigo |
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| 08:24.02 | KammyDoe | Ok |
| 08:24.03 | aNOOBisa | pumpkin0: if I have data already in a block device and I run mkfs.ext3 against that block device will it completly format it? |
| 08:24.06 | KammyDoe | I've installed hfsutils |
| 08:24.20 | KammyDoe | But I don't know whats in it. Whats the dpkg command to show what a .deb file installs? |
| 08:24.28 | pumpkin0 | aNOOBisa: it will destroy the data and create a new, empty fs. |
| 08:24.51 | aNOOBisa | pumpkin0: alrighty! Cool! |
| 08:25.01 | aNOOBisa | pumpkin0: Thanks again |
| 08:25.29 | pumpkin0 | aNOOBisa: You can recover the data to a certain degree. It's not a safe way to delete stuff. And you need to umount the device first. |
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| 08:27.02 | pekan | How do I grep a string from output on strace when starting an application/daemon? |
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| 08:27.13 | Keele | Is it possible to make a "clean" samba install. Just like if samba was never before installed? |
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| 08:28.05 | pumpkin0 | Keele: remove and pruge it, then reinstall. |
| 08:28.29 | wols_ | Keele: dpkg -l |grep samba. purge them and then reinstall |
| 08:28.42 | wols_ | KammyDoe: dpkg -L <package> |
| 08:29.15 | Keele | wols_: Great, I'll try that! |
| 08:29.28 | wols_ | samba is more than one package |
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| 08:30.17 | Dewi | pekan: strace foo | grep -C5 'pattern' |
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| 08:30.43 | Keele | wols_: Can I find out which packages? At least it seems like smbfs would be one package related to samba too. |
| 08:31.17 | Dewi | pekan: oh sorry, it's on stderr in that invocation mode |
| 08:31.20 | wols_ | Keele: apt-cache search samba perhaps |
| 08:31.34 | wols_ | not totally. smbfs is the samba filesystem client. not the server |
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| 08:31.46 | wols_ | smbfs doesn't really need config either that you can destroy |
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| 08:32.49 | Keele | wols_: Yeah. Let's see if this solves the problem. brb -> |
| 08:32.54 | Dewi | pekan: strace foo 2>&1 > /tmp/out.txt | grep -C5 mmap |
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| 08:33.52 | pekan | Dewi: do I need to write it to file? |
| 08:34.01 | Dewi | pekan: command output goes to the file, '2>&1' maps stderr to stdout, grep greps the trace |
| 08:34.14 | barque | the /dev/ inside my debinst root is empty |
| 08:34.23 | Dewi | pekan: what do you want with the program output? |
| 08:34.25 | barque | grub-install /dev/hda1 or /dev/hda won't do jack |
| 08:34.30 | barque | help! :( |
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| 08:34.45 | Keele | wols_: Great, it works! Thank you so much :) made my day! |
| 08:34.53 | pekan | Dewi: error-tracing... :S |
| 08:34.59 | _gAri- | hello people, how do I tell apt-get to use a certain mirror when I want to install a package? |
| 08:35.28 | barque | /dev/hda: Not found or not a block device |
| 08:35.31 | KammyDoe | wols_ thanks |
| 08:35.34 | barque | same with hda1 |
| 08:35.40 | Dewi | pekan: swapping stdout and stderr is less trivial. Google says to try - 3>&1 1>&2 2>&3 |
| 08:35.40 | cahoot_ | sda? |
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| 08:35.47 | barque | I have /dev/hda1 as main FS |
| 08:35.51 | wols_ | barque: what are you installing and with what installer? |
| 08:35.52 | barque | and /dev/hda2 as swap |
| 08:36.00 | Dewi | pekan: you need to invoke file descriptor 3 to hold the temporary value while you swap them |
| 08:36.10 | barque | I'm install Debian |
| 08:36.14 | themill | _gAri-: you shouldn't need to. Why are you trying to do> |
| 08:36.16 | barque | through a Knoppix session |
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| 08:36.26 | barque | my hd is mounted as /mnt/debinst |
| 08:36.32 | barque | (ext2) formatted |
| 08:36.42 | barque | I also set up a fstab inside the changed root |
| 08:36.53 | wols_ | barque: if you chroot into your debian install you also need to bind mount /proc and /dev if you want to install grub in that chroot |
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| 08:37.11 | barque | /proc is there |
| 08:37.13 | barque | and it's filled up |
| 08:37.15 | Dewi | pekan: seems to work for me - strace ls 3>&1 1>&2 2>&3 | grep mmap |
| 08:37.22 | barque | /dev seems to be empty |
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| 08:37.50 | _gAri- | themill: I need to use backports to install a certain package |
| 08:38.04 | _gAri- | I can remove all other mirrors from /etc/sources and do the thing |
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| 08:38.18 | themill | _gAri-: ahh, then aptitude install -t etch-backports packagename |
| 08:38.24 | _gAri- | but instead is there a way to tell apt which mirror to use at this operation? |
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| 08:38.31 | _gAri- | themill: thank you! |
| 08:38.37 | themill | _gAri-: backports.org isn't just a different mirror, it's a different release. |
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| 08:38.50 | _gAri- | oh I mispelled then :) |
| 08:38.51 | _gAri- | sorry :) |
| 08:39.00 | pekan | Dewi: Looks like I got it with 2&>1 instead of 1>&2. I'll have to read up on the difference between those. Thanks! :) |
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| 08:39.25 | barque | so... what to do ... :F |
| 08:39.31 | wols_ | barque: I told you |
| 08:39.32 | Dewi | pekan: remember that the order in the command matters |
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| 08:39.51 | barque | bind mount /dev ? |
| 08:39.56 | Dewi | pekan: also it assigns in the opposite direction I expect it to. |
| 08:40.11 | Dewi | pekan: which might be why your backwards-assignment is working logically for you :) |
| 08:41.37 | pekan | Dewi: That I didn't quite get. My example is "strace etc/init.d/quagga restart 2>&1|grep vty". The order I write this in you mean? |
| 08:42.25 | Dewi | pekan: oh, that's fine, except you are grepping both the trace and the program output, they have been merged into the same pipe |
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| 08:43.16 | pekan | Oh. Program output is only a few lines, but out of curiosity: How do I only grep the strace? |
| 08:43.17 | barque | same output |
| 08:43.27 | barque | /dev and /proc are filled |
| 08:43.37 | barque | but /dev/hda1 or /dev/hda isn't there |
| 08:43.40 | Dewi | pekan: like I said, strace ls 3>&1 1>&2 2>&3 | grep mmap |
| 08:43.49 | barque | or any /dev/hda for that matter |
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| 08:44.01 | Dewi | pekan: or just do what you're doing, but first pipe the stdout to file to get it out of the way |
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| 08:45.03 | barque | wols_ , I did bind mount /dev and bind mount /proc |
| 08:45.12 | barque | same result |
| 08:45.16 | Dewi | pekan: s/first/second (that's where I get confused, it's counter-intuitive to me) |
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| 08:45.35 | wols_ | barque: what result exactly? |
| 08:45.57 | cahoot_ | barque: sda? |
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| 08:46.10 | jelly | pekan, Dewi: strace has an -o argument |
| 08:46.28 | barque | cahoot, it's hda for sure |
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| 08:46.46 | pekan | Dewi: hehe, k. Still don't get it 100%, but thats because I need to read up on the difference between 3>&1... |
| 08:47.02 | Dewi | jelly: ooh, the piped mode of that is very nifty indeed |
| 08:47.13 | barque | /dev/hda: Not found or not a block device. |
| 08:47.51 | wols_ | barque: cat /proc/partitions |
| 08:48.18 | barque | well I'll type every line |
| 08:48.30 | barque | 3 0 <big number> hda |
| 08:48.33 | cahoot_ | look in /sys/block? |
| 08:48.34 | wols_ | don't |
| 08:48.34 | barque | 3 1 <big number> hda1 |
| 08:48.41 | barque | ok ... |
| 08:48.42 | wols_ | stop |
| 08:48.53 | barque | alright |
| 08:49.24 | Dewi | pekan: '3>&1' doesn't make sense if you read it as 'file descriptor 3, please pipe into file descriptor 1'. It actually means the opposite, file descriptor 3 is overwritten with a copy of 1 |
| 08:50.02 | barque | I'm not IRCing from the same machine bet |
| 08:50.04 | barque | btw* |
| 08:50.05 | Dewi | or something. It confuses me so badly. |
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| 08:50.45 | barque | wols_, is that enough information? or you need more |
| 08:50.50 | barque | should I pastebin? |
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| 08:51.48 | barque | ok I've so far followed all the steps in the installation manual |
| 08:51.52 | barque | and I've hit a road block |
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| 08:52.07 | barque | wols_, can you see where the problem is? |
| 08:52.56 | wols_ | no since I don't have all the data |
| 08:53.18 | barque | so you need the thing pastbin'd? |
| 08:53.43 | wols_ | no |
| 08:53.54 | barque | what other pieces would you like? |
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| 08:54.20 | gypsym | hi |
| 08:54.40 | gypsym | there is a way to know the ID of a scsi disc at runtime? |
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| 08:56.11 | Dewi | gypsym: cat /proc/scsi/scsi ? |
| 08:57.01 | gypsym | great! tanx Dewi |
| 08:57.03 | barque | ... anyone?!? |
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| 08:57.45 | trampolin | !anyone |
| 08:57.45 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls>, or <search> |
| 08:57.55 | trampolin | oh sorry,... wrong factoid |
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| 08:59.01 | mordy | is there a way to fhange the CPU fan speed? |
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| 08:59.26 | trampolin | powersaved? |
| 08:59.29 | whatsgood | hello |
| 08:59.35 | barque | ok I've so far followed all the steps in the installation manual for installing from whitin another Running Linux System, I've gotten to the point where I have to do grub-install /dev/hda and I keep getting /dev/hda: Not found or not a block device. |
| 08:59.53 | barque | what do I have to do now |
| 08:59.54 | barque | ? |
| 09:00.01 | trampolin | maybe you have sata disks |
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| 09:00.15 | barque | hmm... how do I check? |
| 09:00.24 | trampolin | check your disks with fdisck |
| 09:00.28 | cahoot_ | look in /sys/block? |
| 09:00.32 | trampolin | or parted |
| 09:00.38 | trampolin | parted is nice |
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| 09:00.50 | waistless | how do I force install a package without a dependency? |
| 09:00.55 | dondelelcaro | waistless: you don't. |
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| 09:01.22 | peppe | waistless: why do you want to do that' |
| 09:01.25 | trampolin | waistless: You try not to... but you can actually |
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| 09:01.37 | dondelelcaro | and no, you cannot. |
| 09:01.50 | dondelelcaro | Using the force options is not what you want to do. |
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| 09:01.55 | mordy | trampolin - i installed powersaved - how do i use it? it just seems to be a daemon - and i can't seem to find the manual or cmmands |
| 09:02.11 | dondelelcaro | mordy: dpkg -L powersaved; will tell you what's going on with it |
| 09:02.27 | waistless | need to know why, i'll copy and paste what I said (ubuntu related problem) |
| 09:02.29 | gypsym | a question about mirror sw: I've installed debian on /dev/md0 composed by sda1 and sdb1 now sda disk is broked I taked it off and now sdb became sda, the system boots, I buyed a new disc, it's better to change the id of the disc to make him sdb or I can just push it letting that linux gives it the sda name cause the md0 still lives on sdb1 or this will mess all things? |
| 09:02.30 | barque | I'm in fdisk |
| 09:02.34 | barque | what's the command? |
| 09:02.37 | waistless | how do I force sun-java6-plugin to use the regular xulrunner1.6 instead of the one in hardy-proposed? |
| 09:02.42 | dondelelcaro | waistless: uh... if it's ubuntu, #ubuntu is who you need to ask. |
| 09:02.44 | waistless | how do I force sun-java6-plugin to use the regular xulrunner1.6 instead of the one in hardy-proposed? |
| 09:02.46 | trampolin | mordy: /etc/powersave/ /usr/share/doc/packages/powersave |
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| 09:02.53 | trampolin | trampolin: man should b there |
| 09:02.59 | waistless | that is why I need to know how to force a dependency ignore |
| 09:03.02 | trampolin | mordy^ |
| 09:03.16 | waistless | in this case, the dependency is unnceccsary, asking you because no one else has an answer |
| 09:03.17 | dondelelcaro | waistless: #ubuntu can help you with that. |
| 09:03.20 | streuner | waistless: #ubuntu |
| 09:03.34 | gnunixguy | ubuntu != debian |
| 09:03.44 | dondelelcaro | waistless: and if they can't, use their forums or mailing lists, or contact their support |
| 09:03.47 | waistless | but surely debian guys know how to force debian packages to ignore dependencies :S |
| 09:03.54 | barque | I'm in fdisk... how can I check if a storage device is SATA: P |
| 09:03.57 | barque | :P |
| 09:04.09 | Dewi | waistless: we know it sounds like breaking your system |
| 09:04.11 | dondelelcaro | waistless: there's no way to ignore dependencies. You fix wrong dependencies, you don't ignore them. |
| 09:04.21 | trampolin | barque: lol |
| 09:04.31 | dondelelcaro | barque: there's no way to tell in fdisk |
| 09:04.38 | barque | one of you told me :( |
| 09:04.39 | waistless | yea sure, i'll break my system by ignoring a java plugin dependency.. fine :( |
| 09:04.42 | pumpkin0 | barque: ask hdparm ... |
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| 09:04.55 | gnunixguy | barque: how'd you get into fdisk without telling it which drive you wanted to fdisk? |
| 09:04.57 | dondelelcaro | barque: normally you wouldn't care either; dmesg will tell you if it really matters |
| 09:04.59 | trampolin | no, u use fdisk to open hda if it exist |
| 09:05.03 | Dewi | waistless: switching to a different version of the lib involves a rebuild, normally |
| 09:05.17 | trampolin | otherwise if it is sata should be /dev/sdax |
| 09:05.21 | barque | I did tell it |
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| 09:05.33 | barque | come on man |
| 09:05.35 | jerome | hum, is there an automagical option for apt-get dist-upgrade that would show which package requires an additional package to be installed (a better -V) |
| 09:05.36 | barque | I told you it's only hda |
| 09:05.38 | gnunixguy | what did you tell it bargue? |
| 09:05.41 | gnunixguy | aye |
| 09:05.41 | barque | sda is not there |
| 09:05.46 | gnunixguy | i missed that, my bad |
| 09:05.49 | dondelelcaro | barque: what does /proc/partitions say? |
| 09:05.51 | Dewi | barque: hda is normally ide |
| 09:05.58 | trampolin | barque: u said hda could not be found |
| 09:05.59 | Dewi | barque: or something trying very hard to look like ide |
| 09:06.00 | jerome | I can't get why it keeps trying to install apache where I already have lightty |
| 09:06.10 | trampolin | Dewi: hda is always ide |
| 09:06.11 | barque | trampolin, this is from outside the chroot |
| 09:06.23 | dondelelcaro | jerome: what is "it"? |
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| 09:06.29 | streuner | jerome: show us the whole output in paste.debian.net |
| 09:06.31 | barque | I did mention, I'm trying to install debian from inside another running linux system (it's a knoppix session) |
| 09:06.36 | trampolin | barque: so what is your boot disk? |
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| 09:06.58 | streuner | drinks his turkish coffee, fine |
| 09:07.04 | barque | the knoppix system sees hda, hda1 and hda2 |
| 09:07.18 | barque | it's just that, they don't exist in the /dev in the chroot |
| 09:07.24 | barque | (/mnt/debinst) |
| 09:07.30 | Dewi | barque: how did you create the /dev in the chroot? |
| 09:07.38 | trampolin | but can't install into hda1? |
| 09:07.40 | barque | /dev is there all filled up |
| 09:07.42 | Dewi | barque: it seems like it doesn't reflect your normal /dev |
| 09:07.43 | trampolin | grub? |
| 09:07.52 | barque | hda, hda1 and hda1 aren't there |
| 09:07.54 | Dewi | barque: they should be the same |
| 09:07.56 | barque | trampolin, yeah trying to install grub |
| 09:08.24 | barque | I followed one of the advices here and did bind mount /dev |
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| 09:08.26 | barque | it filled up |
| 09:08.42 | Dewi | barque: with what? |
| 09:09.04 | barque | with a lot of devices |
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| 09:09.06 | barque | but not all |
| 09:09.10 | barque | only a fraction |
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| 09:09.18 | barque | the /dev in the chroot |
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| 09:09.32 | andriijas | how do i reset my .bashrc and .profile ? |
| 09:09.38 | andriijas | to system default |
| 09:09.49 | Dewi | barque: what was your bind mount command? |
| 09:09.58 | barque | bind mount /dev |
| 09:10.01 | peppe | andriijas: copy the ones from /etc/skel/ into your home |
| 09:10.15 | Dewi | barque: that doesn't look complete to me |
| 09:10.24 | pumpkin0 | andriijas: the ~/.bashrc ? mv the file. |
| 09:10.32 | andriijas | peppe: thx |
| 09:10.36 | Dewi | barque: umount it and try something more like this from outside the chroot: mount -o bind /dev $CHROOT/dev |
| 09:10.37 | jerome | dondelelcaro, streuner : I just launched an upgrade instead of dist-upgrade to isolate the "requiring" packages. I'll keep you informed. |
| 09:10.39 | trampolin | pumpkin0: cp |
| 09:10.49 | Dewi | barque: disclaimer - I have never done this, I'm just following google |
| 09:10.51 | barque | ok umount /dev from inside chroot? |
| 09:11.10 | pumpkin0 | trampolin: if he moves it out of the way bash should autofallback to the system default? |
| 09:11.19 | Dewi | barque: I dunno, however you mounted it, reverse it |
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| 09:11.36 | Dewi | barque: and when I said $CHROOT I meant the absolute location of your chroot, btw |
| 09:11.41 | trampolin | pumpkin0: nope, it will be blank |
| 09:12.13 | Dewi | barque: did you attempt to bind mount from inside the chroot? |
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| 09:13.09 | barque | Dewi, tried it |
| 09:13.12 | Dewi | barque: because that sounds like the wrong way to do it. Anyway, I don't really know what I'm talking about |
| 09:13.18 | barque | yeah well tried it |
| 09:13.22 | barque | looked like it worked |
| 09:13.35 | barque | but it said it has no BIOS block or something |
| 09:13.38 | barque | I'm rebooting |
| 09:13.42 | trampolin | barque: sounds like there is a mess on your mounting :P |
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| 09:14.00 | barque | I'll reboot and I'll remount |
| 09:14.02 | Dewi | barque: http://www.internettablettalk.com/wiki/index.php?title=Running_Debian_chroot |
| 09:14.05 | barque | maybe it's the fstab ? |
| 09:14.13 | Dewi | barque: try referring to some instructions on how to set up a chroot |
| 09:14.17 | Dewi | barque: with hardware access |
| 09:14.17 | mordy | gah, it tells me no fan devices are available :| - |
| 09:14.27 | barque | aww man |
| 09:14.30 | trampolin | barque: anyways... if just grub is the problem (doubt it) then why no to just skip that part and install it apat? |
| 09:14.32 | barque | I was almost done with the installation |
| 09:14.46 | barque | well no I gotta install it |
| 09:14.49 | barque | I gotta boot it |
| 09:14.50 | barque | :P |
| 09:14.53 | Dewi | barque: how are you almost finished if you haven't found your hard disk? |
| 09:15.03 | barque | Dewi, everythign else in the manual worked fine |
| 09:15.08 | trampolin | u can install it with another distro or with live cd >.> |
| 09:15.11 | barque | it's just that my harddisk wasn't showing up |
| 09:15.12 | trampolin | after reboot |
| 09:15.18 | Dewi | barque: you don't need a chroot to install grub |
| 09:15.20 | trampolin | out of chroot |
| 09:15.22 | Dewi | barque: just install it |
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| 09:15.32 | barque | Dewi but I installed it from inside the chroot :D |
| 09:15.37 | barque | with aptitude |
| 09:15.38 | barque | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:15.41 | Dewi | barque: where there was no hard disk? |
| 09:15.58 | barque | the /dev inside the chroot was empty initially |
| 09:16.09 | Dewi | presumably you mean that your chroot is on the target drive. |
| 09:16.10 | barque | then wols_ here said you gotta do bind mount /dev and /proc |
| 09:16.11 | Dewi | Fair enough. |
| 09:16.11 | barque | I did both |
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| 09:16.18 | Dewi | but you don't need to be in a chroot to install grub |
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| 09:16.27 | barque | yeah I figure |
| 09:16.34 | barque | it just needs somewhere to install to |
| 09:16.34 | Dewi | at least... I don't think you do |
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| 09:16.47 | barque | so I'll try knoppix's grub .... I guess ... :| |
| 09:17.01 | yopyop | hey, i want to use quota on a nfs, do each nfs client has to have quota config or only the nfs ? |
| 09:17.20 | Dewi | barque: did you try the mount command I suggested? |
| 09:17.33 | Dewi | oh right, BIOS block or something, I dunno why it would say that |
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| 09:19.40 | trampolin | loves how people love to make things the most complicated way |
| 09:19.52 | eshat | Hi all, somehow, my KDE does no automount USB-Sticks, is there any package that has to be installed ? |
| 09:20.51 | barque | I'm trying grub install from knoppix |
| 09:20.55 | barque | it says |
| 09:21.03 | trampolin | eshat: hal I think |
| 09:21.07 | barque | Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device |
| 09:21.08 | themill | dpkg: tell eshat about kde automount |
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| 09:22.17 | trampolin | barque: If installlation was correct (doubt it) then reboot and install grub with knoppix again out of chroot |
| 09:23.44 | Dewi | barque: you have to use an approach that doesn't need /boot there |
| 09:24.15 | Dewi | barque: or, make /dev available inside chroot |
| 09:24.20 | Dewi | and run from there, so it can find /boot |
| 09:24.35 | Dewi | there are many ways to install grub, though |
| 09:24.44 | barque | hold on |
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| 09:24.55 | barque | let me remake that fstab of mine inside chroot with your guide |
| 09:25.01 | barque | where is the manual again? |
| 09:25.12 | Dewi | fstab doesn't have anything to do with it, afaik |
| 09:25.26 | trampolin | shivers |
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| 09:25.37 | barque | where is the installation manual? |
| 09:25.38 | barque | di |
| 09:25.40 | barque | !di |
| 09:25.41 | dpkg | 4.0r3 etch is now the "Stable" debian release (April 8, 2007) see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ for images. Sarge is still available at http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ Developers page is http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ .. If you want to make custom install cds, start with d-i. IRC: oftc.net: #debian-boot. Also ask about <errata>. |
| 09:25.51 | illio | apache files/folders in Debian.. what user/group should they be given? |
| 09:25.52 | trampolin | *gasp |
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| 09:25.58 | illio | wwwrun as user.. but group? |
| 09:26.16 | Dewi | illio: in debian apache workers run as www-data:www-data |
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| 09:26.55 | Dewi | that is to say they run as 'www-data' who is normally in group 'www-data' |
| 09:26.58 | Dewi | as is customary |
| 09:27.06 | lolie | could i run only base system + apache2 for a simple web server? |
| 09:27.27 | pumpkin0 | lolie: yes, that is possible. |
| 09:27.36 | trampolin | isn't there a webserver only install option? |
| 09:27.46 | trampolin | does kinda that |
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| 09:27.48 | Dewi | lolie: yeah. you might want to think about system mail though |
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| 09:28.29 | Dewi | lolie: lots of things expect local mail facilities, anyway |
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| 09:29.09 | lolie | Dewi: i want to start with base system and apache2 only |
| 09:29.12 | barque | god this is getting annoying |
| 09:29.22 | lolie | Dewi: fully get to know apache and then move on a little further |
| 09:29.22 | barque | how do I install grub |
| 09:29.27 | Dewi | barque: have you considered installing from a CD? |
| 09:29.27 | trampolin | Yeah, God is annoying |
| 09:29.34 | barque | Dewi, out of |
| 09:29.39 | lolie | lol @ trampolin |
| 09:29.47 | trampolin | barque: You are doing it the most complicated way |
| 09:29.54 | barque | device for /boot |
| 09:30.01 | barque | but I was almost done with it |
| 09:30.09 | barque | what the hell is a device for /boot |
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| 09:30.21 | barque | since when did /boot need a device |
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| 09:30.45 | Dewi | lolie: if you install and choose 'standard server' at tasksel, you can choose 'local mail only' and exim4 will run very minimal |
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| 09:31.02 | trampolin | barque: Do you like eating spagettin while dancing la macarena in a rope and writing la traviata? |
| 09:31.13 | themill | !chrootgrub |
| 09:31.14 | dpkg | you need to "mount --bind /dev /path/to/chroot/dev" from outside the chroot so that the /dev directory in the chroot is populated, and run "mount /proc ; mount /sys" inside the chroot |
| 09:31.14 | Dewi | lolie: that's what I'd recommend for a beginner wanting a fairly minimal, but not broken, system |
| 09:31.22 | Dewi | lolie: then aptitude install apache2 etc etc etc |
| 09:31.46 | Dewi | barque: /boot is not a device |
| 09:31.52 | Dewi | barque: it's a filesystem location |
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| 09:32.05 | barque | mount --bind? |
| 09:32.09 | trampolin | thinks you should just install from a cd |
| 09:32.11 | barque | now you're telling me |
| 09:32.12 | Dewi | barque: but when you're booting from a CD, /boot is not where grub is expecting to find it |
| 09:32.24 | lolie | Dewi: aptitude wont recommend other files along with apache2? if i run aptitude apache2 |
| 09:32.25 | Dewi | barque: which is why being in a chroot can be handy |
| 09:32.30 | barque | wols_, I hope you die in a car crash |
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| 09:32.33 | barque | and burn |
| 09:32.33 | Dewi | barque: but not if you don't have a /dev/hda for grub to install on |
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| 09:32.51 | Dewi | barque: seriously though... can you not just install from a CD? |
| 09:33.04 | lolie | Dewi: i dont need mail on here at all now heh |
| 09:33.09 | trampolin | wols is condemned to die drawining |
| 09:33.29 | Dewi | lolie: if you want really minimal, just pick cancel at tasksel stage |
| 09:33.40 | Dewi | lolie: I'm just warning you that it... feels funny not to have local mail |
| 09:34.02 | trampolin | think u need local mail tho... |
| 09:34.05 | lolie | Dewi: the hell im going to get in my local mail? |
| 09:34.07 | trampolin | not sure |
| 09:34.10 | Dewi | lolie: software tries to notify root of things |
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| 09:34.30 | Dewi | lolie: I'm not sure what will happen if local mail is broken because you didn't install some kind of minimal MTA |
| 09:35.02 | lolie | base system doesnt install local mail? |
| 09:35.03 | Dewi | (there might even be enough basic structure for local mail to still work just by writing blindly into the spool... but I have nfi) |
| 09:35.19 | Dewi | lolie: nope |
| 09:35.36 | trampolin | anyone tell me if I am wrong but there isn't a Debian install option just for webserver? it install just the min necesary for it |
| 09:35.39 | lolie | well i just apache2 and only apache2 :P |
| 09:35.46 | lolie | as long as it only supports html im fine |
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| 09:36.00 | Dewi | lolie: so... do it then? |
| 09:36.06 | lolie | i am :P |
| 09:36.14 | Dewi | cool |
| 09:36.17 | level2tech | nice, just registered my very own nick |
| 09:36.27 | lolie | lol |
| 09:36.30 | trampolin | lol |
| 09:36.32 | level2tech | after 12 years of irc |
| 09:36.34 | trampolin | gratz? |
| 09:36.37 | level2tech | lmao |
| 09:36.42 | level2tech | no gratz |
| 09:36.55 | level2tech | I feel special though |
| 09:37.06 | lolie | Dewi: if i start installing php5 and i write out aptitude install php5 will it also add all other necesary ? |
| 09:37.18 | Dewi | lolie: yes |
| 09:37.18 | themill | !install php |
| 09:37.19 | dpkg | To install php5 on apache2, aptitude install libapache2-mod-php5; a2enmod php5; /etc/init.d/apache2 restart; On apache, aptitude install libapache-mod-php5, apache-modconf apache enable php5; /etc/init.d/apache restart; Then restart your browser and try to access a php page. To install php4, use the same instructions but with php4 instead of php5, but ask me about <php4 security> first. See <php wants me to download still> |
| 09:37.28 | Dewi | lolie: but be careful |
| 09:38.14 | lolie | Dewi ok |
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| 09:38.19 | Dewi | lolie: there are a few ways to run it, you want to make sure the bridge it picks is the one you want, probably libapache2-mod-php5 |
| 09:38.41 | themill | (just installing that package is often the best way of doing things) |
| 09:39.02 | lolie | i like aptitude |
| 09:39.15 | trampolin | sees in lolie another case of trying to unecesarily complicate things |
| 09:39.31 | lolie | lol |
| 09:39.39 | lolie | trampolin u had a question about webserver? |
| 09:39.49 | trampolin | no |
| 09:39.53 | lolie | what exactly do you want on it lol |
| 09:40.09 | lolie | trampolin> anyone tell me if I am wrong but there isn't a Debian install option just for webserver? it install just the min necesary for it |
| 09:40.16 | Dewi | lolie: well a minute ago you said you wanted 'html only' and now you want php |
| 09:40.27 | Dewi | lolie: I bet in 10 minutes you want mysql |
| 09:40.28 | lolie | Dewi php later |
| 09:40.42 | trampolin | lolie: that was apragmatic question... whated to tell you to use that option! |
| 09:40.46 | lolie | Dewi lol go figure maybe :P if i learn apache well enough in ten min i will |
| 09:40.57 | lolie | ok tramp |
| 09:40.58 | lolie | :P |
| 09:41.06 | trampolin | lolie: remember it was on an old debain version but haven't installed debian myself in a while |
| 09:41.26 | Dewi | trampolin: those tasksel options aren't what I'd call minimal, I normally avoid them, except for 'standard server' |
| 09:41.28 | trampolin | Dewi: mysql is the devil |
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| 09:41.51 | mejo | hey |
| 09:41.53 | mejo | i've setup a bonded device bond0 but now ifconfig tells me that it has over 80 collisions. could that be the reason for connection errors to the server? |
| 09:41.54 | Dewi | trampolin: but even it installs exim4 which is a bit much |
| 09:42.01 | trampolin | but why do you want a very minimal system tho? |
| 09:42.15 | trampolin | and install all the time things as you need them |
| 09:42.32 | Dewi | trampolin: simplicity, security |
| 09:42.37 | mejo | the config in /etc/network/interfaces looks like it's described in several online 'bonded network devices' howtos |
| 09:42.40 | trampolin | not necesarily |
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| 09:42.48 | Dewi | trampolin: yes, necessarily |
| 09:42.53 | trampolin | simplicity = simplicity |
| 09:43.14 | Dewi | trampolin: yep, and asking aptitude for what you want, instead of asking tasksel for some blind guess at what you want, is simpler |
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| 09:44.26 | trampolin | it's a myth based on perception |
| 09:44.28 | Dewi | trampolin: there's nothing simple about running CGI and analog stats if you don't want or need them |
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| 09:44.54 | trampolin | Dewi: if you son't want cgis... just don't use them... |
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| 09:45.01 | Dewi | trampolin: and wait for a hacker to use them? |
| 09:45.09 | trampolin | not necesarily need to deactivate and remove everything |
| 09:45.16 | trampolin | no, |
| 09:45.27 | Dewi | trampolin: we're not deactivating anything, just not installing unnecessary stuff |
| 09:45.35 | trampolin | mean just install the easy way then customize |
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| 09:46.05 | Dewi | trampolin: the easy way is the one in the factoid |
| 09:46.36 | trampolin | thing is I've seen many to obsess on minimals, and confuse minimal with deficiency |
| 09:46.57 | trampolin | Dewi: I am not contradicting the php part Dewi |
| 09:46.58 | Dewi | trampolin: installing unnecessary software on web servers is *madness*. The web is a dangerous place |
| 09:47.19 | Dewi | it's a fundamental principle of security to minimize the attack surface |
| 09:47.33 | trampolin | that is true |
| 09:48.02 | trampolin | but it doesn't mean that can be archived just by lacking stuff |
| 09:48.08 | barque | wow |
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| 09:48.23 | barque | ok I'm gonna waste my last DVD |
| 09:48.26 | trampolin | not saying you have to i install unnecesary stuff |
| 09:48.29 | barque | but somebody better revise that garbage |
| 09:48.48 | barque | Neither work from a knoppix session |
| 09:48.50 | barque | lilo or grub |
| 09:48.56 | Dewi | barque: WHY are you using knoppix? |
| 09:49.02 | Dewi | barque: the debian installer is a bootable CD |
| 09:49.05 | barque | just to instlal Debian. Period. |
| 09:49.09 | Dewi | barque: you won't tell us |
| 09:49.22 | barque | My internet connection is crap |
| 09:49.31 | barque | so I hate waiting for 700 mbs to download |
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| 09:49.35 | barque | and I have one blank DVD left |
| 09:49.37 | barque | and it's 6 am |
| 09:49.42 | Dewi | barque: the netinst is 120mb or so |
| 09:49.50 | barque | still too big |
| 09:49.51 | wols_ | barque: 150MB netinst is enough. what mobo chipset do you have? |
| 09:50.02 | IsilZha | are there known issues with eclipse and debian? i just installed version 3.2.1 but i get "Plug-in "org.eclipse.tomcat" version "4.1.130.v20060601" referenced by this feature is missing." in the status of "Eclipse Platform" (in the configuration manager) |
| 09:50.05 | barque | what chipset? |
| 09:50.08 | barque | it's an AMD sempron |
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| 09:50.10 | trampolin | nite |
| 09:50.10 | Dewi | barque: dude, that's hardly bigger than the base system |
| 09:50.13 | wols_ | yes |
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| 09:50.19 | Dewi | barque: what are you installing from that's less than 150 MiB? |
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| 09:50.26 | wols_ | barque: that's not an answer |
| 09:50.38 | barque | Mostly SiS chipset in there |
| 09:50.59 | wols_ | *sigh* if you don't want to answer fine. suit yourself |
| 09:51.09 | Dewi | wols_: well he did tell you to die in a car crash |
| 09:51.24 | wols_ | ? |
| 09:52.01 | wols_ | ah, nice. |
| 09:52.03 | ronr | I try to mount a cd with the uid=<my uid> option, but still a lot of files have 'weird' ownerships (id's not available on my system), any ideas? |
| 09:52.05 | wols_ | what a moron |
| 09:52.07 | Dewi | wols_: yeah, how's that for gratitude. I think it's time to end the conversation :P |
| 09:52.12 | extor | I noticed my pdnsd deamon had been crashed for about 12 hours and I restarted it, but is there a way for me to check every 5 minutes or so if all my daemons are running and if not to just restart them? |
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| 09:52.55 | MrBrush | Let's say I'm in screen, press C-a + ESC to get into copy mode, and want to select one whole line, how can I do that? |
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| 09:53.09 | Dewi | barque: here's one last hint. If 700MiB is too much to download, maybe read about the options before clicking download |
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| 09:54.00 | Dewi | MrBrush: use arrows or hjkl to reach start of line, press enter, down, enter |
| 09:54.22 | Dewi | MrBrush: 0 moves to left column, too |
| 09:54.27 | MrBrush | Dewi: thanks |
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| 09:56.12 | dn6 | how do I watch this drunken kid get owned by his friends on cam http://www.justin.tv/coloradogaming ?? |
| 09:56.29 | *** join/#debian ddp` (n=ddp@2001:388:d000:2100:0:0:0:1) |
| 09:56.42 | Dewi | dn6: don't do that here |
| 09:56.47 | Dewi | dn6: but you're a bot, right? |
| 09:56.59 | themill | !ops dn6 is spamming |
| 09:57.00 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: themill complains about: dn6 is spamming |
| 09:57.08 | Dewi | thx |
| 09:57.30 | dn6 | !op themill racist |
| 09:57.42 | Dewi | laughs. |
| 09:57.43 | streuner | hm, no bot :-) |
| 09:57.51 | Dewi | dn6: that would be a command to op somebody, not call the ops on them |
| 09:57.54 | streuner | bots are more clever :-) |
| 09:58.08 | themill | bots get close to passing the turing test |
| 09:58.10 | dn6 | oops! |
| 09:58.19 | dn6 | !op themill is racist |
| 09:58.20 | dpkg | okay, dn6 |
| 09:58.24 | dn6 | Damn straight |
| 09:58.32 | Dewi | he's not learning very fast |
| 09:58.38 | streuner | Don't play with the bot! |
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| 10:02.15 | denkijin | is away: Screenshot of Elive: http://elivecd.org/Main/Screenshots |
| 10:02.33 | themill | dpkg: tell denkijin about away |
| 10:02.55 | denkijin | themill: lollers ty |
| 10:02.55 | streuner | asking himself, its Friday... |
| 10:03.10 | denkijin | is back (gone 00:00:55) |
| 10:03.13 | streuner | s/Friday/Sonday/ |
| 10:03.22 | themill | !permasunday |
| 10:03.22 | dpkg | All days in #debian will remain Sunday until further notice. Unfortunately, outside #debian the world keeps turning, so you still have to get up and go to work. Welcome to PermaTardsday! http://www.lyricsfreak.com/m/morrissey/96007.html |
| 10:03.23 | Dewi | denkijin: good, just in time to disable that away message |
| 10:03.25 | streuner | argh |
| 10:03.29 | dn6 | !premaracist |
| 10:03.54 | streuner | dn6: play somewhere else! |
| 10:03.55 | dn6 | likes relativistic time dialations |
| 10:03.56 | themill | dn6: Do you have a debian-related question? If not, please be silent in this channel. |
| 10:04.01 | Dewi | dn6: you're really not very good at this. Please go away. |
| 10:04.15 | dn6 | Where can I get progene? |
| 10:04.28 | dn6 | wait is there a y do that? |
| 10:04.29 | streuner | use google |
| 10:05.11 | denkijin | is away: screenshot of your mommma: www.ughse.cx |
| 10:05.24 | dn6 | !progeny |
| 10:05.24 | dpkg | progeny is probably Debian-based GNU/Linux distribution company specializing in custom packaging. http://www.progeny.com/, or see progeny installer, or http://componentizedlinux.org/progeny/ |
| 10:05.38 | dn6 | now we are getting somewhere |
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| 10:05.57 | themill | denkijin: seriously, turn that off in here. |
| 10:06.09 | simonrvn | !lart denkijin |
| 10:06.09 | dpkg | teaches denkijin the basics, including how to RTM |
| 10:06.22 | denkijin | um its changed |
| 10:06.38 | Shadur | denkijin: We said "off", not "change it". |
| 10:06.46 | Shadur | As in, turn the channel-wide announcement off. |
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| 10:06.55 | denkijin | oh yes i forgot the nazt debianites |
| 10:07.26 | simonrvn | !lart denkijin |
| 10:07.27 | dpkg | explains, ever so gently, that if denkijin doesn't give the channel more information, they can't help |
| 10:07.35 | denkijin | is away: screenshot of your mommma: www.ughse.cx |
| 10:07.37 | Dewi | denkijin: you say that, and yet the channel has just had 2 screens of morons and nobody has even been kicked |
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| 10:07.46 | denkijin | fuck |
| 10:07.52 | denkijin | oh ok |
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| 10:08.08 | themill | denkijin: if we got an away notice every time each of the 782 people here went for a coffee or a piss, then we'd never actually see any useful traffic on this channel. |
| 10:08.19 | denkijin | its off hombre |
| 10:08.23 | themill | thanks |
| 10:08.24 | Shadur | themill: .... Even less so than usual, that is. *ducks* :) |
| 10:08.47 | themill | Shadur: I *just* refrained from making a comment to that effect myself... |
| 10:08.49 | denkijin | i fail at making a .deb i guess |
| 10:09.06 | streuner | omg |
| 10:09.14 | dn6 | How does debian propose to solve the issues of powering up my machine with out using a power supply unit ? |
| 10:09.26 | dn6 | I need that upgrade |
| 10:09.40 | Shadur | dn6: You could try attaching a lightning rod to your mainboard. |
| 10:10.17 | dn6 | Shadur: I actually think flying a kite with a 31 AWG magnetic wire might do the trick |
| 10:10.22 | denkijin | hmm i try the svn instead |
| 10:10.46 | dn6 | grounds the wire to earth; and keeps it flying during storms |
| 10:10.53 | simonrvn | wonders what "don't spam" has to do with racism.... |
| 10:11.19 | simonrvn | wonders if dn6 has ever been a victim of same |
| 10:11.33 | streuner | simonrvn: he isn't able to use the bot... |
| 10:11.56 | simonrvn | doubts he has been |
| 10:12.21 | Shadur | simonrvn: Even if he were, this is online. I don't think any of us know - or, frankly, care - what skin color he has. |
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| 10:12.33 | Delicates | anyone here knows how PCI bus IDs are assigned in Linux, and how you could change it? |
| 10:12.45 | simonrvn | i meant IRL, but anyway ;) |
| 10:12.57 | simonrvn | Delicates: you don't |
| 10:13.03 | Shadur | Delicates: They're assigned by the mainboard, not the kernel, I think. |
| 10:13.45 | Shadur | About the only way to change the PCI bus ID of a card would be to move the card to a different slot. |
| 10:14.08 | avar | I'm trying to upgrade from etch to testing and during this process the tool that manages /etc config updates has become unusable: http://sial.org/pbot/31596 It now only offers to "show a side-by-side difference between the versions" whereas previously I could request a unified diff by entering "D". How do I get the old behavior back? |
| 10:14.11 | Shadur | Maybe a better question would be what you're trying to accomplish that you feel makes a bus ID change neccessary. |
| 10:14.28 | Delicates | Shadur: I had IDs change on me in between OS installations |
| 10:14.28 | simonrvn | wouldn't it be easier to edit the config ...? o_O |
| 10:14.28 | avar | It also used to offer "Y" or "I" as opposed to numeric options like "1" |
| 10:14.33 | dn6 | Does Debian support FInal Scratch Version 1.0? |
| 10:15.00 | zxxxd | why do i have dangling links "/etc/cron.daily/man-db: |
| 10:15.01 | zxxxd | mandb: warning: /usr/share/man/man1/unpack200.1.gz is a dangling symlink |
| 10:15.05 | zxxxd | and bunch of others |
| 10:15.10 | zxxxd | should i delete the links? |
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| 10:16.51 | dn6 | zxxxd: my theory is this |
| 10:16.55 | dn6 | back up the links |
| 10:16.57 | dn6 | delete the links |
| 10:17.02 | dn6 | then retry |
| 10:17.05 | zxxxd | w00t? |
| 10:17.08 | dn6 | if all fails; replace the links |
| 10:17.10 | zxxxd | retry what |
| 10:17.25 | Dewi | zxxxd: package bug |
| 10:17.34 | Dewi | zxxxd: I don't think it matters |
| 10:17.35 | simonrvn | they're just symlinks, rm the buggers |
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| 10:17.57 | zxxxd | dpkg -S dosen't show any packages owning the file |
| 10:17.57 | dpkg | You Fool! dosen't show any packages owning the file is installed! |
| 10:17.59 | Dewi | zxxxd: yeah, hence package bug. I get it too |
| 10:18.01 | simonrvn | those dangling ones don't matter |
| 10:18.18 | Dewi | zxxxd: as simonrvn says, it's probably not going to hurt to delete the broken links |
| 10:18.22 | dn6 | dangling reminds me of dingle berries |
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| 10:18.30 | Dewi | (they certainly won't be doing anything useful now) |
| 10:18.33 | avar | Regarding the problem I mentioned: Now it magically works again and uses the old method |
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| 10:19.01 | Dewi | avar: hooray! magic! |
| 10:19.30 | avar | indeed |
| 10:19.41 | simonrvn | magic keystrokes ;p |
| 10:19.55 | Dewi | as I always say, it's a fine line between "works like magic" and "it's a miracle if it works" |
| 10:20.22 | zxxxd | i remember a command that auto removes dangling links |
| 10:20.37 | simonrvn | Dewi: no kidding =) |
| 10:21.00 | dn6 | Why did Debian have a multi-million dollar corporation rip their OS off, by producing Final Scratch Version 1.0 with out having a supporting OS such that one could install Final Scratch 1.0 with out having to rely on the CD from the company? |
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| 10:21.21 | simonrvn | *blink* |
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| 10:21.33 | simonrvn | *blink* |
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| 10:22.46 | Shadur | You'll have to speak english, son. We don't speak Crazy Moon Language around these here parts... |
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| 10:25.20 | agnitio_ | is the release-schedule mentioned here: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2008/06/msg00000.html still on track, with a possible lenny release in september? |
| 10:25.48 | themill | agnitio: only if everyone gets to and starts fixing bugs |
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| 10:31.32 | wols_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:31.39 | wols_ | agnitio: realistically, of course not |
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| 10:43.08 | rootmos | how do i search for symbolic links to a specific file? |
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| 10:43.34 | Shadur | Good question. I don't think you can short of a find / command |
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| 10:43.47 | lolie | do i really need mail server? |
| 10:44.38 | et | some kind of, yes (you want to be able to send mails) |
| 10:44.40 | steven_ | rootmos: i think you can do this using stat |
| 10:44.55 | et | you don't need a huge package like exim or postfix though |
| 10:45.00 | dn6 | man beer |
| 10:45.09 | Shadur | Unix systems are happiest if there's at least a rudimentary MTA on the local system. It can be barebones to send everything to the /real/ mail server on your network, but a *lot* of basic unix programs implicitly assume the capability exists. |
| 10:45.09 | et | have a look at nullmailer |
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| 10:45.53 | ArthurArchnix | !what's holding up gnome-panel 2.22 |
| 10:46.07 | ArthurArchnix | hmm... that must not be how it's done |
| 10:46.16 | themill | !why is gnome-panel not in testing |
| 10:46.16 | dpkg | gnome-panel is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=gnome-panel |
| 10:46.32 | ArthurArchnix | cheers |
| 10:46.38 | themill | ArthurArchnix: actually, it has the same version in sid and lenny. |
| 10:46.47 | agnitio | wols_: that's a shame, I'm really encouraged to switch to debian when lenny becumes stable, but right now I'm having too much trouble with it |
| 10:47.05 | ArthurArchnix | Yeah, a guy on the mailing list has posted twice asking why it's not in sid yet, so I thought I'd try and find out. |
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| 10:47.11 | themill | ArthurArchnix: perhaps you actually want /msg dpkg gnome status |
| 10:47.40 | lolie | et why exactly do i need mail server is what i dont get? |
| 10:47.45 | ArthurArchnix | I'll take a look at that too, thanks themill |
| 10:47.52 | themill | ArthurArchnix: yeah, the migration page is about sid->lenny not why things are not even in sid yet. |
| 10:48.09 | et | Shadur: a lot of programs expect it to be there. |
| 10:48.17 | et | s/shadur/lolie |
| 10:48.20 | et | typo |
| 10:48.34 | Shadur | They're so easy to confuse. :) |
| 10:49.15 | et | i was about to tell him to look at your line ... |
| 10:49.36 | lolie | ok |
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| 10:49.43 | Shadur | lolie: Part of what you don't understand is probably that when we say "MTA" or "Mail server" we mean something significantly different from what you probably think we mean. |
| 10:49.46 | lolie | nullmailer? |
| 10:50.36 | lolie | which is proven to be legit? :P |
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| 10:51.18 | Shadur | An MTA is a Mail *Transfer* Agent - it doesn't deliver mail, it doesn't keep mailboxes, it doesn't neccessarily accept mail from anywhere outside the system it's on. |
| 10:51.45 | lolie | :P |
| 10:51.50 | lolie | clearifys things up |
| 10:52.33 | wols_ | agnitio: what problems? |
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| 10:53.45 | lolie | should i go with nullmailer or postfix ? debian says postfix |
| 10:54.01 | lolie | wront site no it doesnt |
| 10:54.05 | Shadur | But a lot of software - including basic stuff like cron - expect to be able to send email as needed, and rather than include an SMTP client into each of those programs (and tripling their size in some cases) the Unix devs figured it was easier to standardize the 'sendmail' command and have everything use that. |
| 10:54.33 | Shadur | lolie: Postfix is pretty full-feature. It'll do what you need, but if you're really worried about disk and CPU space it may be overkill. |
| 10:54.45 | lolie | no not at all |
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| 10:54.53 | lolie | but right now i just want mta nothing else |
| 10:54.55 | lolie | only mta |
| 10:55.13 | Aleksander-pl | Hello. I have a problem: http://wklej.org/id/4fb6bb2477 on Debian Lenny, last kernel. Do You have any idea, what to do? |
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| 10:55.44 | Shadur | lolie: Postfix'll do that for you, and will even let you select exactly that configuration during install. |
| 10:56.21 | Shadur | nullmailer can probably do that as well; I've never used it myself because, well, postfix worked fine for everything else so no real need to change. :) |
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| 10:56.55 | micols | Shadur: you know if its a good idea to have your own mailserver without reverse dns? |
| 10:57.21 | micols | i.e., you think any spamfilters would regard emails from no-hostname domain as spam? |
| 10:57.55 | micols | i think that happened to me a few times, but im not sure |
| 10:58.11 | liable | i never had a problem with it |
| 10:58.23 | liable | but i didnt send mail to many businesses |
| 10:58.24 | micols | i have no reverse dns.. my isp charges $70 to make me a reverse dns to my own domain :) |
| 10:58.38 | micols | although i pay them for 3 static ips |
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| 10:59.07 | Shadur | micols: Not technically illegal, but considered rude and a warning sign that your server /might/ be a spammer. |
| 10:59.28 | micols | the problem is that my server sends out its hostname as linux.rlogin.org i think :) |
| 10:59.31 | Shadur | micols: You could configure your mail server to use your ISP's server as smarthost, which should solve your problem. |
| 10:59.38 | micols | which reciever wont reverse to its ip :) |
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| 10:59.55 | micols | Shadur it already does use my isps server |
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| 11:00.14 | lolie | Shadur how i check my mail now? |
| 11:00.15 | micols | but it still relays, and tells my isps smarthost server that its domain is linux.rlogin.org :) |
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| 11:00.26 | Shadur | lolie: The way you always have. |
| 11:00.28 | micols | so in the end im not sure if the reciever would try to look the first domain up? |
| 11:00.34 | micols | it shouldnt i suppose |
| 11:00.34 | lolie | mail? |
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| 11:01.16 | micols | Shadur: i guess its not my mailservers fault then, then its just many people blocking gnu@gmx.net probably :) |
| 11:01.26 | Shadur | lolie: Do you have a mail server somewhere that you receive mail on? |
| 11:01.31 | micols | could seem like a spam adr i think :) |
| 11:02.01 | micols | i know that hotmail did block the whole gmx.net domain :) |
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| 11:02.22 | micols | but they have also never been sane. |
| 11:02.35 | rhalff | anyone has not seen this movie :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcQ7RkyBoBc |
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| 11:04.00 | xingu | swears at systems with poorly thought-out cooling design |
| 11:04.19 | xingu | ... gpu exhausting straight up at the primary hdd, nice darts there clowns |
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| 11:08.24 | agnitio | wols_: it's a long story, mostly involving my wireless NIC and my inexperience with debian, therefore it would be nice to have an up to date, stable system and then learn the basics of pinning and backports etc. as you go along, and not dive into them head first :) |
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| 11:10.10 | wols_ | agnitio: what NIC? |
| 11:10.14 | davidisko | hi guys, iptables --log-level gives me iptables v1.3.6: Unkown arg `--log-level'... lsmod | grep LOG says ipt_LOG 8576 0 x_tables 15880 3 ipt_LOG,xt_tcpudp,ip_tables any ideas? |
| 11:10.46 | agnitio | wols_: intel 3945 |
| 11:11.18 | wols_ | !ipw3945 |
| 11:11.19 | dpkg | If you're running Debian Etch, do the following: add <contrib> and <non-free> entries in your sources.list, "aptitude update && aptitude install ipw3945-modules-$(uname -r) firmware-ipw3945 ipw3945d && modprobe ipw3945". See also <ipw3945-fu>. If you're running Debian Lenny, ask me about <iwlwifi>. |
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| 11:11.47 | wols_ | and there is of course a etch backport for the lenny 2.6.24 kernel available |
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| 11:13.25 | agnitio | wols_: I appreciate your help, but I'm not on debian right now, and I got the ipw3495 driver working just fine, but I had troubles with acpi sleep in the old kernel, and the new kernel used iwlwifi and I never got that one working, it kept saying that my kill switch was on, I tried searching and doing everything I could but it wouldn't work.. even though it works fine in gentoo.. |
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| 11:13.51 | agnitio | but as I said, I appreciate your help, but I'll wait for lenny to become stable and try my luck from there |
| 11:13.58 | themill | dpkg: ipw3945 =~ s/Lenny/Lenny or the 2.6.24 kernel from either <backports.org> or <etchnhalf>,/ |
| 11:13.58 | dpkg | OK, themill |
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| 11:14.41 | vaq | Hello, I have a SAN with 4 iSCSI NIC ports, my Debian 4.0 etch machine can with (iscsiadm --mode node --targetname iqn.2007-05.phd.iscsi:01.189fbf1f2ac1 --portal 192.168.234.210:3260 --login |
| 11:15.12 | vaq | Hello, I have a SAN with 4 iSCSI NIC ports, my Debian 4.0 etch machine can with (iscsiadm --mode node --targetname iqn.2007-05.phd.iscsi:01.189fbf1f2ac1 --portal 192.168.234.210:3260 --login) login to two of the ips (ports) however on the last two the command freezes and I can't stop open-iscsi process afterwards. |
| 11:15.45 | barque | how far into the installation does netinst install the kernel and lilo/grub? |
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| 11:16.00 | liable | near the end |
| 11:16.08 | vaq | barque: that's the last step |
| 11:16.09 | barque | and why on earth can't it track how much it has installed? |
| 11:16.31 | barque | the power cable came out by accident |
| 11:16.36 | barque | now it's starting all over again |
| 11:16.57 | liable | and you blame the installer for this? |
| 11:17.09 | wald0 | anybody has tried the "snapshot" feature of XFS ? i don't know if do a new installation using JFS or XFS, that feature sound very good |
| 11:17.10 | barque | ... *yeah*! |
| 11:17.35 | barque | It's a common rule of thumb in Engineering... *shit*happens* |
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| 11:20.20 | xingu | barque: don't be putting your thumb up there then |
| 11:20.26 | xingu | barque: or if you do, keep it there |
| 11:20.28 | wald0 | xfs_freeze, more exactly |
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| 11:20.46 | barque | xxxing! try to make sense next time |
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| 11:21.20 | Veros | can you please explain, top shows these values for a process: VIRT=193m, RES=142m. Isn't VIRT=SWAP+RES? |
| 11:21.52 | th0ger | How can i get a (short) description of all loaded kernel modules (seen with modprobe) |
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| 11:21.55 | xingu | Veros: no; virt includes text/executable pages |
| 11:22.15 | xingu | Veros: ... which aren't beancounted because they can be faulted back in (or are xip, regardless) |
| 11:23.35 | Veros | You mean virt doesn't really take ram? only res does? |
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| 11:24.30 | GhostlyDeath|Lpt | How do I add myself to a group? |
| 11:25.46 | th0ger | GhostlyDeath|Lpt: add yourself in /etc/group |
| 11:25.52 | wols_ | addgroup |
| 11:25.58 | wols_ | th0ger: no! |
| 11:26.01 | rhalff | GhostInTheShell, gpasswd -a you group |
| 11:26.05 | gynterk | addbroup |
| 11:26.08 | spx2 | is anyone here using sms notification from google calendar ? |
| 11:26.14 | gynterk | asdfg, don't modify /etc/group |
| 11:26.17 | wols_ | !anyone use ams notification |
| 11:26.18 | dpkg | No, no one uses ams notification, not even the people who use it. |
| 11:26.44 | wols_ | th0ger: lsmod |
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| 11:27.51 | GhostlyDeath|Lpt | hmm thanks rhalff |
| 11:28.02 | MarcWeber | is upate-rd the command to list all running services? |
| 11:28.16 | MarcWeber | I meant update-rc |
| 11:28.23 | th0ger | what is wrong with editing /etc/group??? |
| 11:28.38 | Hammar | what might be the reason for web browsing under lenny being perceivably slower than using windows? |
| 11:28.39 | th0ger | wols_: lsmod show installed modules, not descriptions |
| 11:29.09 | th0ger | Hammar: which browser(s)? |
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| 11:29.38 | Hammar | iceweasel 2.0.0.4 and firefox 2.x |
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| 11:29.55 | MarcWeber | Hammar: Hard to say. This starts at the browser you're using, and ends with your graphic card, additional browser plugins etc |
| 11:30.09 | wols_ | th0ger: modinfo |
| 11:30.12 | dondelelcaro | Hammar: what part of it is "slow"? |
| 11:30.26 | Hammar | the dns-lookup in particular seems to be way slower |
| 11:30.26 | wols_ | th0ger: evreything is |
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| 11:30.43 | dondelelcaro | Hammar: that means that your dns server is slow, or you've got entries in /etc/resolv.conf that are wrong. |
| 11:31.04 | th0ger | wols_: thanks ;) |
| 11:31.34 | MarcWeber | which is the way to list all running services? |
| 11:31.57 | Hammar | dondelelcaro: will try that one |
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| 11:32.21 | wols_ | MarcWeber: not really possible. there are no "services" either btw |
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| 11:33.32 | MarcWeber | How do you call /etc/init.d/xx start stop then? |
| 11:33.59 | wols_ | you just call then? |
| 11:34.04 | abrotman | MarcWeber: just like that |
| 11:34.05 | wols_ | !tell MarcWeber about sysvinit |
| 11:34.15 | wols_ | and linux still doesn't have any services. this is no Windows |
| 11:35.17 | themill | Hammar: you could try a caching nameserver like pdnsd. Windoze has that built in so if you're noticing that is problematic it might be worth trying. |
| 11:35.25 | MarcWeber | I'm hitting too many open files limit on a virtual server. That's why I've tried shutting some applications down. |
| 11:36.43 | MarcWeber | I've only 510 left and I still get this error. I've tried increasing ulimit -n setting in bash to no avail. Strange |
| 11:36.57 | illio | Why does a new version of Debian install an apache 2.2.3 when the newest version is 2.2.9? .. there are 12 known security issues with 2.2.3 |
| 11:37.23 | illio | I'm tried to force it to update.. but according to it, there isn't an update |
| 11:37.24 | themill | illio: are they patched in debian? Check the CVE numbers against the debian changelog. |
| 11:38.08 | _gAri- | hi people, is there any support of apparmor in debian? I need mod_apparmor for apache mostly |
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| 11:38.29 | cr3_ | hi |
| 11:38.54 | Hammar | th0ger, MarcWeber, dondelelcaro, themill: disabling ivp6 dns lookup did the trick. browsing appears to be as it should now (read: faster than firefox under XP) |
| 11:38.56 | cr3_ | if i set keysym with xmodmap -e "keycode 174 = XF86AudioLowerVolume", will it stay there after reboot? do i need to save it somewhere? |
| 11:39.25 | themill | Hammar: ipv6 in firefox is another common problem... Good stuff. |
| 11:40.20 | th0ger | cr3_: i think you need to put it somewhere |
| 11:41.27 | th0ger | cr3_: mine are in .Xmodmap |
| 11:41.39 | cr3_ | th0ger, but i don't have such file |
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| 11:42.32 | th0ger | cr3_: I load it in .xsession with the line 'xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap' |
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| 11:43.12 | azeem | anybody know wether something like wlstat.pl's wlstat_hide_data (i.e. don't display windows in the windowlist if their level is below the threshold) is possible without adding crack to the statusbar? |
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| 11:44.24 | th0ger | cr3_: and then my .Xmodmap contains lines of the form 'keycode 174 = XF86AudioLowerVolume' |
| 11:44.54 | cr3_ | th0ger, i found some .Xmodmap sample files |
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| 11:46.49 | barque | xserver-xorg-core: Depends: xserver-xorg but it is not installable |
| 11:47.01 | barque | What the **** is going on! =) |
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| 11:47.13 | enouf | mixing repos? |
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| 11:47.24 | barque | Hmmm... 1 sec |
| 11:48.42 | barque | now it can't find anything |
| 11:49.18 | themill | barque: do you now have a strange knoppix/debian hybrid there? |
| 11:49.27 | barque | naw |
| 11:49.37 | barque | 1 sec my sources.list disappeared |
| 11:49.52 | barque | I did a netinst |
| 11:50.12 | enouf | !mirrors |
| 11:50.13 | dpkg | [debian mirrors] http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt | ask me about <apt-spy> or <netselect-apt> | to make a mirror, see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ or http://lists.debian.org/debian-mirrors/ |
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| 11:52.04 | barque | Package xserver-xorg-core is not available but is referred to by another package. |
| 11:52.09 | barque | okay, what's going on here? |
| 11:52.42 | azeem | if you don't have a sources.list, it's likely xserver-xorg-core isn't listed there |
| 11:52.55 | barque | I used ftp://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian |
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| 11:53.34 | barque | well if I mentioned that my sources.list was missing, what'd make you think I hadn't filled it up by now :) |
| 11:53.38 | azeem | that's not a full repo |
| 11:54.05 | barque | hmm, let me grab the one in the installation manuak |
| 11:54.09 | barque | manual* |
| 11:54.23 | azeem | I mean, a line in sources.list is more than a URL |
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| 11:55.14 | barque | deb ftp://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian stable contrib |
| 11:55.28 | azeem | did you run apt-get update? |
| 11:55.30 | themill | what happened to "main" |
| 11:55.32 | barque | yep |
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| 11:55.52 | azeem | barque: xserver-xorg-core is not in contrib |
| 11:56.24 | davidisko | hi guys, iptables --log-level gives me iptables v1.3.6: Unkown arg `--log-level'... lsmod | grep LOG says ipt_LOG 8576 0 x_tables 15880 3 ipt_LOG,xt_tcpudp,ip_tables any ideas? |
| 11:56.36 | barque | alright, updating |
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| 11:56.49 | MrBrush | is it possible to copy all contents with SCP? |
| 11:56.52 | MrBrush | like there is cp -R ? |
| 11:57.04 | barque | MrBruch scp -r |
| 11:57.10 | barque | Brush* |
| 11:57.36 | barque | ahh there we go |
| 11:57.42 | barque | azeem, thank you! |
| 11:57.52 | barque | and also themill |
| 11:57.55 | barque | actually themill only :P |
| 11:57.58 | barque | needed 'main' |
| 11:58.06 | barque | but thank you both anyway |
| 11:58.24 | themill | barque: you probably also want to use "etch" rather than "stable" in that line. And you should also have a line for security updates. |
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| 11:58.46 | barque | ahh yes security .... security .... |
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| 12:00.18 | danielhw | hello all :-) |
| 12:00.56 | barque | I must say my short temper and my foul mouth make a mockery of me... but heck, I love this Operating System. |
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| 12:03.21 | illio | themill, oh okay.. so it's just because we don't want them in the system when they've not been tested properly yet.. so it's patched instead.. okay |
| 12:04.21 | themill | illio: yes. It also means that you can apply a security fix without having changed behaviour in the program. It reduces the "moving target" problem. |
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| 12:07.51 | jgr | I have set clamav with postfix, but in logs I can see message like: CLAMAV: couldn't connect to: /var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl indeed there is no that file, but I have set in /etc/clamav/clamd.conf: LocalSocket /var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl, does anyone have similar problem? |
| 12:08.31 | jgr | Permission are ok, user clamav can read and write to /var/run/clamav/ |
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| 12:08.39 | jgr | *Permissions |
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| 12:13.25 | zxxxd | hi |
| 12:13.33 | zxxxd | does anyone know if samba in etch supports kerberos ? |
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| 12:16.04 | Antaga | Yop! |
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| 12:16.39 | zxxxd | ? |
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| 12:23.12 | ronr | is it possible to configure a debian server to use multiple ldap servers for pam / nsswitch (ie. if account not found in ldap 1, check ldap 2)? |
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| 12:28.24 | beardy | ronr: Should be possible, as AFAIK you can have local users, if not found, then ldap, and so on.. but I haven't done it, but possible, yes I'm quite sure. |
| 12:28.28 | abrotman | ronr: you may want to ask #ldap if that's possible at all |
| 12:28.41 | RandomTask | hi ... i am having a problem with remotely accessing my pc via vnc ... i get the gdm greeter ... however after i log the session dies? is there a log or anything i can look at? |
| 12:29.59 | abrotman | gdm usually has a log in /var/log/ and there maybe ~/.gnome-session-errors or something like that |
| 12:30.01 | barque | all yee who develop, utter thy favorite IDE |
| 12:30.08 | ronr | abrotman: I'll check at #ldap |
| 12:30.19 | abrotman | barque: polls are bad |
| 12:30.25 | barque | what, here? :D |
| 12:30.34 | abrotman | barque: and it also depends on the language |
| 12:30.37 | barque | lots of people shooting in all directions? :) |
| 12:30.40 | barque | C/C++ |
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| 12:31.35 | barque | My prof's been constantly bragging about how great NetBeans is |
| 12:31.43 | barque | but I'm thinking Eclipse |
| 12:31.52 | barque | you guys ... ? :P |
| 12:34.09 | docmax | hello, how do i add an alternative with update-alternatives? |
| 12:34.38 | abrotman | docmax: man update-alternatives |
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| 12:35.18 | barque | wow not compiling stuff is sooooo good |
| 12:35.27 | barque | remembers the Gentoo days |
| 12:35.42 | docmax | abrotman, i try, but it doesnt work |
| 12:35.43 | barque | gnome in less than half an hour? get outta heeeree.... |
| 12:35.50 | abrotman | docmax: show us the error |
| 12:36.00 | docmax | i need to add /opt/firefox/firefox-bin to group www-browser |
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| 12:36.22 | docmax | update-alternatives --install www-browser /opt/firefox/firefox-bin |
| 12:36.25 | docmax | doesnt work |
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| 12:37.57 | superlinux | i want to print an arabic txt from console. but get gibereish. how can iget correct encoding? |
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| 12:38.29 | Vlad | not sure i'm not able to install a damn ide |
| 12:39.07 | superlinux | Vlad can i know.. what r u discussing? |
| 12:39.14 | beardy | docmax: Read the manual, there's more things you need to give it. |
| 12:39.19 | barque | he was answering me |
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| 12:40.31 | barque | superlinux, as for your question pal.... dunno, might have something to do with changing the locale |
| 12:40.48 | azeem-uni | azeem: . |
| 12:40.55 | beardy | !locale |
| 12:40.56 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, locale is set your own locale in your shell rc files, or dpkg-reconfigure locales, or see /etc/default/locale, or run apropos locale (mainly for programmers) |
| 12:41.01 | superlinux | ok |
| 12:41.34 | superlinux | beardy but u r sure of it? |
| 12:41.45 | barque | but is he sure of it.... |
| 12:41.54 | barque | well, no one knows for certain |
| 12:41.59 | barque | you might wanna ->try<- it out |
| 12:42.20 | superlinux | so i will have to set the CHARSET var? |
| 12:42.28 | barque | I mean, what's the worse that could happen... the Earth cracking open and fireballs going into the sky... hey that's not bad |
| 12:42.32 | barque | I've seen worse |
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| 12:42.42 | superlinux | me too.. |
| 12:42.47 | beardy | superlinux: No, the LC variables. |
| 12:42.54 | superlinux | ah ok |
| 12:43.14 | superlinux | i'll tell my friend.. he just not good at english.. he is a morrocan |
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| 12:43.29 | barque | That's alright |
| 12:43.31 | noboday | hi |
| 12:43.45 | noboday | what's the most secure way to share files? |
| 12:43.50 | barque | woohoo gnome's ready |
| 12:43.52 | barque | DING! |
| 12:44.02 | abrotman | dishes are done dude! |
| 12:44.12 | beardy | superlinux: LC_ALL sets everything to the locale you set it too, but most times, atleast I, only want certain things, like my swedish letters, time format, decimal sign and so on, in my locale, the rest english. |
| 12:44.52 | barque | does apt get rid of all the packages it downloads? |
| 12:44.56 | noboday | creating a user with restricted shell and chroot? |
| 12:45.02 | NoxIn | noboday: encrypting them on a cdrom and sending them by private trnasporter ? |
| 12:45.05 | beardy | noboday: Floppy in your shirt and your favourite weapon. |
| 12:45.13 | barque | if so where are they and what's the best way of deleting them? |
| 12:45.17 | noboday | over the internet, please |
| 12:45.22 | amphi | barque: apt-get clean |
| 12:45.30 | barque | amphi, where are they ? |
| 12:45.36 | beardy | noboday: scp or sftp is the answer you want. |
| 12:45.43 | amphi | barque: they're in /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 12:45.53 | beardy | noboday: Which are part of ssh. |
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| 12:46.19 | noboday | with sftp they can browse my pc |
| 12:46.34 | noboday | or scp |
| 12:46.37 | noboday | or I do chroot? |
| 12:46.47 | noboday | in .bash_profile? |
| 12:46.58 | beardy | If you can't trust your users, don't have them. |
| 12:47.17 | beardy | Then go with the encrypted cdrom, or just http or ftp. |
| 12:47.44 | noboday | ftp sends passwords cleartext |
| 12:47.59 | beardy | Anyomouse, of course. |
| 12:48.02 | beardy | mous |
| 12:48.03 | noboday | but what do for example hosting companies do? |
| 12:48.25 | jelly | mm, Anyo mice. |
| 12:48.30 | beardy | Run on an isolated box, or net, that you can just blow over when it cracks. |
| 12:48.35 | beardy | I reckon. |
| 12:48.54 | noboday | use a chrooted / virtualized box for it? |
| 12:49.10 | beardy | jelly: Well.. you know what it was meant to be.. |
| 12:49.27 | beardy | But I wonder how I failed that greatly. |
| 12:49.31 | jelly | I do, but that doesn't stop me from mocking you! |
| 12:49.37 | beardy | Nope. |
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| 12:50.20 | beardy | noboday: Yes, or a whole bo. But to whom do you need to send a file securely, if you can't trust them? |
| 12:50.25 | beardy | box |
| 12:50.39 | abrotman | noboday: on Ubuntu? |
| 12:50.53 | noboday | distro doesn't matter, does it? |
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| 12:51.01 | beardy | It most surely does. |
| 12:51.05 | beardy | Get the fuck out. |
| 12:51.06 | noboday | debian ftw |
| 12:51.08 | NoxIn | noboday: "but what do for example hosting companies do?" <-- they let you know it's secure when it's not really :) |
| 12:51.23 | noboday | makin' me a fool? |
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| 12:52.29 | jelly | noboday: first establish a secure, trusted channel between your peers. then use whatever protocol works for you |
| 12:52.58 | noboday | for example, I want to enable file sharing between my classmates |
| 12:53.08 | abrotman | noboday: please ask #ubuntu or ##linux |
| 12:53.26 | noboday | and don't want any of them to break / visit around my system |
| 12:53.30 | abrotman | if you are indeed asking about an Ubuntu system |
| 12:53.30 | noboday | #ubuntu? why? |
| 12:53.46 | noboday | I said "Debian ftw" |
| 12:53.53 | abrotman | but you're using Ubuntu? |
| 12:53.59 | noboday | using ubuntu live cd to fix my system |
| 12:54.01 | davidisko | hi guys, iptables --log-level gives me iptables v1.3.6: Unkown arg `--log-level'... lsmod | grep LOG says ipt_LOG 8576 0 x_tables 15880 3 ipt_LOG,xt_tcpudp,ip_tables any ideas? |
| 12:54.29 | NoxIn | noboday: then open a google group for you and your classmates and put the files on it, why do you wan't to host it ? |
| 12:54.38 | NoxIn | or something like that |
| 12:54.54 | noboday | so there is no exact solution for my problem |
| 12:54.56 | noboday | thank you |
| 12:55.35 | abrotman | I'm sure there are some web apps to share files with permissions/users/groups |
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| 12:55.51 | beardy | I'd say something over https would suit you. |
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| 12:57.58 | cr3_ | hi |
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| 12:59.01 | cr3_ | what to type in as a keyboard type after 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' if i have multimedia kboard? it seems that this is the problem for not responding to XF86Audioraise/lower.. |
| 12:59.48 | themill | !multimedia keys |
| 12:59.49 | dpkg | well, multimedia keys is the special keys on your keyboard for doing such things as changing the volume or launching your web browser. Check to see if these keys generate a scan code using xev. and set the keyboard layout correctly or assign them to a shortcut with xmodmap, kcontrolcenter, gnome-control-panel etc. Also ask me about <keytouch>. see http://tuxmobil.org/Mobile-Guide.db/mobile-guide-p2c1s8-ext-keys.html |
| 13:00.00 | barque | Who's clock reads close to 9am |
| 13:00.08 | barque | and what time zone did you chose? |
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| 13:01.25 | cr3_ | my clock reads 15:01 |
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| 13:02.29 | barque | wait, is 'iceweasel' iceweasel ... 3.0? |
| 13:02.35 | abrotman | yes |
| 13:02.43 | barque | goodie |
| 13:02.46 | abrotman | barque: Eastern |
| 13:02.52 | barque | tried |
| 13:02.56 | barque | it gives 4am |
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| 13:03.03 | cr3_ | why doesn't everything work by default |
| 13:03.04 | abrotman | then you messed up the UTC question i'd say |
| 13:03.06 | barque | or close to 5am |
| 13:03.10 | abrotman | barque: /msg dpkg set the time |
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| 13:03.29 | abrotman | cr3_: maybe Debian isn't for you |
| 13:03.51 | noboday | abrotman: you ain't from the Deb PR group, are you? |
| 13:03.54 | cr3_ | wut noooo |
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| 13:04.08 | barque | dude |
| 13:04.16 | abrotman | noboday: I'm a huge fan of Debian, but not everyone is compatible with Debian :) |
| 13:04.20 | barque | I got firefox 2.0.0.12 |
| 13:04.33 | cr3_ | i installed pure Debian, without servers, desktop, w00t! understand? now i install everythin as i wish |
| 13:04.36 | barque | apt-get install firefox |
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| 13:04.48 | barque | cr3_, so did I |
| 13:04.52 | abrotman | barque: you probably want to use aptitude in the future |
| 13:04.57 | barque | ok |
| 13:05.02 | barque | aptitude install firefox? |
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| 13:05.05 | abrotman | cr3_: you may want to look at lineakd |
| 13:05.12 | noboday | apt-get install iceweasel |
| 13:05.19 | abrotman | barque: /msg dpkg why aptitude .. to understand why |
| 13:05.25 | abrotman | noboday: no really .. aptitude |
| 13:05.30 | noboday | abrotman: I've been tormenting myself for a pretty long time to get used to Debian |
| 13:05.47 | noboday | tried other distros as well, still this is the best for me |
| 13:05.55 | cr3_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:05.56 | noboday | reinstalled it for many many times |
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| 13:06.14 | Yns^ | hey all |
| 13:06.18 | noboday | hi |
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| 13:07.10 | [ShapeShifter] | se pira a comer, bye |
| 13:07.13 | noboday | as I remember, aptitude once removed my gnome by accident |
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| 13:07.46 | barque | still installs 2.0.0.12 |
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| 13:07.51 | amphi | good ol' aptitude |
| 13:07.54 | barque | is there some keyword or something that I must mention? |
| 13:08.02 | noboday | barque: R U using stable? |
| 13:08.08 | abrotman | barque: are you on etch or lenny? |
| 13:08.09 | beardy | Holy shit.. |
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| 13:08.24 | barque | ummm etch |
| 13:08.29 | noboday | then that's it |
| 13:08.31 | abrotman | barque: then you get iceweasel2 |
| 13:08.37 | noboday | get iceweasel from lenny maybe |
| 13:08.40 | abrotman | no |
| 13:08.44 | abrotman | that's why you have to keep reinstalling |
| 13:08.51 | amphi | heh |
| 13:08.54 | themill | noboday: fail |
| 13:08.55 | noboday | :) |
| 13:09.44 | noboday | reinstall in a few minutes :) |
| 13:09.51 | alex123 | i seem to have a high -> "load average: 13.01, 12.55, 12.11" - but when i check ps aux, or top i cant see any running processes, and the box is almost 99% idle? how can i see whats causing the high loadtimes? |
| 13:09.52 | noboday | (for me) |
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| 13:10.34 | noboday | is any1 using sid? |
| 13:10.51 | noboday | as desktop? |
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| 13:10.53 | tarzeau | noboday: sure |
| 13:10.55 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 13:10.55 | dpkg | methinks popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff, or the basis for what packages appear on the first few cds/dvds etc (by rank) |
| 13:11.06 | et | !popcorn |
| 13:11.07 | dpkg | pours a bag of popcorn into Jindrak's lap. (You probably mean popcon, ask me about "popcon") |
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| 13:11.42 | barque | hmm |
| 13:11.45 | barque | lenny release.gpg |
| 13:11.55 | barque | wuts goin' on in hear :> |
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| 13:12.40 | shecki | Hi, i have a problem with amavis (version 2.6.0-2) under debian lenny and Sophos as virus-scanner |
| 13:12.48 | shecki | Jul 16 14:16:43 mailfilter amavis[2372]: (02372-12) (!!)run_av (Sophos Anti Virus (savscan)) FAILED - unexpected exit 3, output=">>> Virus 'EICAR-AV-Test' gefunden in Datei /var/lib/amavis/tmp/amavis-20080716T133305-02372/parts/p001" |
| 13:12.58 | themill | alex123: processes that are IO-bound will also increase the load average. NFS or USB storage are common culprits. |
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| 13:13.25 | shecki | does anybody know, what exit_codes amavis can handle? |
| 13:13.28 | barque | so wait |
| 13:13.39 | abrotman | cues White Lion |
| 13:13.42 | barque | I'm getting all the old packages because I had etch in my sources.list? |
| 13:13.56 | abrotman | etch is stable .. |
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| 13:14.09 | abrotman | barque: /msg dpkg releases |
| 13:14.10 | barque | now I changed it to lenny and aptitude updated |
| 13:14.22 | abrotman | barque: okay .. now /msg dpkg etch->lenny |
| 13:14.33 | noboday | tarzeau: did you link popcon for me? |
| 13:14.43 | themill | and pray |
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| 13:15.09 | barque | then I will get ... iceweasel 3 and the latest gnome and stuff? |
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| 13:15.35 | noboday | barque: for the latest, get sid |
| 13:15.41 | noboday | for the latest working, lenny :) |
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| 13:15.51 | themill | !sns syndrome |
| 13:15.51 | dpkg | i heard sns syndrome is a serious disorder otherwise known as Shiny New Shite Syndrome usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. Slashdot readers are more likely than others to contract the condition. |
| 13:16.03 | yuastnav | Hey, when I start e16 it is supposed to load a file that specifices the font-size. now I want to know where this file belongs and what I have to write in it. |
| 13:16.04 | barque | well right |
| 13:16.06 | barque | shiny new shit |
| 13:16.07 | yuastnav | I cannot remember. |
| 13:16.09 | abrotman | noboday: do not recommend sid to people |
| 13:16.15 | barque | how about old-fuck-sticking-to-ancient-crap-syndrome? |
| 13:16.19 | barque | ofstacs |
| 13:16.22 | noboday | I didn't |
| 13:16.29 | cr3_ | ahahah |
| 13:16.35 | themill | barque: how about working and tested... |
| 13:16.49 | barque | ff2.0.0.12 is long from working and tested |
| 13:16.54 | barque | it's more like farting and dying |
| 13:16.57 | barque | and fading away |
| 13:17.07 | noboday | try lenny |
| 13:17.11 | noboday | I'm using it |
| 13:17.11 | abrotman | ff3 isn't really any better in terms of stability, hardly an upgrade |
| 13:17.13 | barque | doing so ;) |
| 13:17.22 | barque | Loved the new features |
| 13:17.27 | noboday | 64bit lenny ftw |
| 13:17.28 | barque | especially it finally being CSS2 compliant |
| 13:17.29 | themill | barque: works well here. And it's had a couple of years of testing. As opposed to ff3 which a lot of people are finding needs quite a lot more testing... |
| 13:17.33 | tarzeau | noboday: i did what? no |
| 13:17.41 | tarzeau | noboday: ah yes i think |
| 13:17.42 | barque | yeah they released it early |
| 13:17.43 | Nazz | ff3 is crashing every 10 minutes like the old one |
| 13:17.46 | barque | had a lot of bugs |
| 13:17.51 | abrotman | has |
| 13:17.52 | barque | Nazz, never crashed for me :P |
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| 13:18.12 | Nazz | it doesnt bother me anyway it has the restore session feature after all |
| 13:18.26 | Nazz | i love the new navbar |
| 13:18.38 | noboday | how can I get statistics on what releases are people using? |
| 13:18.54 | noboday | coz' on the popcon page there is only on arch |
| 13:19.02 | Agiofws | hello |
| 13:19.07 | Agiofws | what package do i need ? |
| 13:19.08 | abrotman | noboday: look at it again |
| 13:19.10 | Agiofws | checking for miNewPaintedSet in -lxmi... no |
| 13:19.10 | Agiofws | configure: error: libxmi is required to compile enblend. |
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| 13:19.26 | Agiofws | ixus:/home/agiofws/extracted/enblend-dir/enblend# apt-cache search libxmi |
| 13:19.26 | Agiofws | ixus:/home/agiofws/extracted/enblend-dir/enblend# |
| 13:19.26 | Agiofws | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:19.47 | noboday | abrotman: am I blind? |
| 13:19.58 | themill | Agiofws: apt-file search libxmi |
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| 13:20.04 | Nazz | plotutils-dev |
| 13:20.10 | Nazz | plotutils actually |
| 13:20.24 | Nazz | that's what google said anyway |
| 13:20.36 | themill | Nazz: neither, actually. libplot-dev |
| 13:20.58 | abrotman | Agiofws: apt-file search libxmi |
| 13:21.15 | barque | does dist upgrade upgrade everything? |
| 13:21.21 | barque | like gnome and the rest? |
| 13:21.26 | themill | barque: man apt |
| 13:21.28 | noboday | apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 13:21.31 | Nazz | apt-file! :) |
| 13:21.34 | noboday | if your sources.list is ok |
| 13:21.38 | abrotman | noboday: APTITUDE |
| 13:21.51 | noboday | :( sry |
| 13:21.57 | barque | themill, will definitly read... but was just wondering... |
| 13:22.03 | noboday | I'm using apt-get, that's my one |
| 13:22.05 | abrotman | noboday: /msg dpkg why aptitude |
| 13:22.06 | barque | cause I'm heading out :P |
| 13:22.11 | noboday | already did |
| 13:22.13 | themill | barque: also /msg dpkg dist-upgrade |
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| 13:22.16 | abrotman | noboday: that's your problem .. don't mess him up |
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| 13:22.28 | cr3_ | pwd |
| 13:22.28 | cr3_ | /usr/X11R6/bin/X11/X11/X11/X11/X11/X11/X11/X11/X11/X11/X11/X11/X11/X11/X11/X11/X11/X11/X11/X11/X11/X11/X11/X11/X11 |
| 13:22.31 | noboday | I haven't failed with it so far |
| 13:22.43 | barque | cr3_, that's been there for a while |
| 13:22.45 | barque | it's everywhere |
| 13:22.46 | abrotman | how many times have oyu reinstalled? |
| 13:22.47 | barque | even on FreeBSD |
| 13:22.57 | barque | sh built in pwd |
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| 13:23.02 | barque | being dumb as hell |
| 13:23.50 | themill | barque: send patches |
| 13:24.20 | barque | no one really cares about it |
| 13:24.32 | barque | it's a harmless quirk they say |
| 13:24.38 | barque | *shrugs* |
| 13:24.50 | JyZyXEL | !convert 14043198KB to MB |
| 13:24.51 | dpkg | 14043198KB cannot be converted to MB: Unknown unit 'KB' |
| 13:24.57 | JyZyXEL | !convert 14043198kB to MB |
| 13:24.59 | dpkg | 14043198kB is approximately 14043.2 MB |
| 13:25.23 | noboday | http://antionline.com/archive/index.php/t-132242.html |
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| 13:25.37 | noboday | read this: "s0nIcDecember 4th, 2001, 12:18 AM" |
| 13:25.54 | barque | /msg dpkg why dentine ICE |
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| 13:27.17 | protoloco | at my work i must use WINDOWS.. how can i use Linux inside Windows??? vmware? |
| 13:27.28 | barque | yep |
| 13:27.36 | noboday | virtualbox |
| 13:27.37 | barque | or virtual PC |
| 13:27.40 | noboday | OSE |
| 13:27.49 | barque | qemu |
| 13:27.51 | protoloco | what FREE virtualize tool could i use? |
| 13:27.55 | barque | if it has a Windows version :P |
| 13:27.56 | protoloco | Xen ? |
| 13:27.58 | noboday | virtualbox |
| 13:28.01 | protoloco | Xen works? |
| 13:28.02 | barque | Virtual PC |
| 13:28.09 | abrotman | virtual PC isn't free |
| 13:28.12 | barque | yes it is |
| 13:28.19 | barque | For people who didn't pirate Windows |
| 13:28.20 | abrotman | MS freed it ? |
| 13:28.24 | barque | yeah |
| 13:28.28 | wols_ | bullshit |
| 13:28.34 | barque | 2004 is free |
| 13:28.39 | abrotman | though .. IIRC it uses an S3 card for the system, which is useless |
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| 13:29.24 | wols_ | the only one that kinda supports 3D is vbox with chromium afaik |
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| 13:31.46 | barque | err dude 2007 is free as well |
| 13:32.07 | barque | you just need a valid Windows license |
| 13:32.09 | wols_ | please what "free" means for debian |
| 13:32.22 | wols_ | *please learn |
| 13:32.36 | barque | he was looking for a free virtual machine software for Windows to run Linux in |
| 13:32.39 | barque | GNU/Linux* |
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| 13:32.46 | themill | barque: so where do I download the source so I can tinker with it? |
| 13:32.55 | wols_ | please learn what free means for debian before opening your mouth again |
| 13:33.09 | barque | umm, I am speaking in the context of the discussion that was sparked a few minutes ago |
| 13:33.13 | wols_ | themill: forget it he's too ignorant |
| 13:33.22 | barque | umm, I am speaking in the context of the discussion that was sparked a few minutes ago |
| 13:33.25 | wols_ | you are talking bullshit as usual |
| 13:33.30 | abrotman | he didn't specify which "Free" he meant |
| 13:33.32 | barque | 09:26 < protoloco> at my work i must use WINDOWS.. how can i use Linux inside Windows??? vmware? |
| 13:34.06 | barque | Free as in you don't have to pay for the software to use it, and since he is using Windows at work I'm giving it a 99.99% chance he's got a valid license |
| 13:34.09 | barque | so it fits the case |
| 13:34.15 | yuastnav | So where do I set the default font size e16 should be using? |
| 13:34.17 | barque | me: 1 captain dipshit: 0 |
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| 13:34.27 | barque | better luck next time! |
| 13:34.29 | wols_ | barque: stop the ad hominem please |
| 13:34.29 | JyZyXEL | whos captain dipshit? |
| 13:34.35 | karrotx | how do i set the netdev_max_backlog value? |
| 13:34.46 | themill | barque: no, you advocating the use of non-free software on #debian is unwelcome. |
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| 13:34.56 | abrotman | as i said though .. VPC2k4 uses an S3 virge or something for its VGA .. which basically means no X on linux with that |
| 13:35.05 | th0ger | I have BOOTLOGD_ENEBLE=Yes in /etc/default/bootlogd but nothing is still logged in /var/log/boot. Why? |
| 13:35.07 | barque | I'm not advocating it, I'm giving a fitting solution for his specific case since HE asked |
| 13:35.21 | abrotman | he could use colinux |
| 13:35.52 | barque | then again he could use virtual box or vmware or anything else |
| 13:35.56 | barque | well vmware server + client anyway |
| 13:36.16 | barque | or heck even qemu if it has a Windows build |
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| 13:36.41 | wols_ | karrotx: sysctl.conf |
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| 13:36.55 | karrotx | wols_: i just found it thanks |
| 13:37.02 | karrotx | make a change do a reload? |
| 13:37.26 | barque | and on the note, of ad hominem... calling someone ignorant without a proper argument to back it up |
| 13:37.32 | abrotman | barque: drop it |
| 13:37.34 | barque | ouch, stop it with the 'hypocrasy' |
| 13:38.06 | remoteCTRL | hi all! i just upgraded etch to lenny on my travelmate 8000 now i got some mess here and need assistance pls: the ati opensource driver causes my lap to freeze so i removed it and tryed to install fglrx but for some reason i dont seem to have a kernel module is that normal? |
| 13:38.08 | karrotx | ah, sysctl -p, man is my friend |
| 13:38.24 | abrotman | remoteCTRL: what is your video card? |
| 13:38.31 | abrotman | remoteCTRL: and did you try vesa ? |
| 13:38.34 | wols_ | rmayorga: install from where (fglrx that is) |
| 13:38.39 | wols_ | remoteCTRL: ^^ |
| 13:38.50 | barque | Hey, I don't want to leave anything unanswered ;) |
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| 13:39.12 | barque | what happened to good ol' equal opportunity |
| 13:39.29 | wols_ | barque: do you have a debian question? |
| 13:39.31 | abrotman | barque: stop it already .. there is no need to continue |
| 13:39.52 | barque | wols_, not at the moment |
| 13:39.59 | wols_ | then please be quiet |
| 13:40.04 | barque | sure thing |
| 13:40.12 | remoteCTRL | abrotman: its a ati9600 mobile, lspci says rv350, and yes vesa works fine but as we know has no 3d accel... |
| 13:40.37 | abrotman | remoteCTRL: when does the laptop freeze? when X starts or after some time? |
| 13:41.31 | remoteCTRL | abrotman: actually quite precisely as soon as i click a menu or press alt+f2, or click on update-manager, i dont know seems to be random at any graphical interaction |
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| 13:41.46 | remoteCTRL | abrotman: immediately after x has launched |
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| 13:42.10 | abrotman | does it leave any hints in your X log ? |
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| 13:42.58 | JyZyXEL | do jumbo frames only work for LAN addresses? |
| 13:43.00 | remoteCTRL | abrotman: i actually havent looked, as it completely freezes, sec ppls |
| 13:43.20 | karrotx | JyZyXEL: LAN addresses? meaning your local net? |
| 13:43.25 | JyZyXEL | yea |
| 13:43.30 | karrotx | no... |
| 13:43.39 | JyZyXEL | well it should |
| 13:43.41 | karrotx | they're used on some dc networks |
| 13:44.01 | karrotx | ZyXEL? isn't that a company....a dsl modem company |
| 13:44.18 | karrotx | they caused me many hours of aggravation in the past |
| 13:44.20 | eth01 | they manufacture routers/switches iirc |
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| 13:45.03 | JyZyXEL | sudo ifconfig eth0 mtu 9000 |
| 13:45.03 | JyZyXEL | SIOCSIFMTU: Invalid argument |
| 13:45.07 | JyZyXEL | how nice |
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| 13:45.27 | remoteCTRL | abrotman: im really not sure if there is something significant in there can i paste it somewhere for you? |
| 13:45.38 | abrotman | !paste |
| 13:45.41 | abrotman | gah .. |
| 13:45.45 | abrotman | paste.debian.net |
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| 13:46.17 | RichiH | dpkg: test |
| 13:46.18 | dpkg | Test Failed. |
| 13:46.21 | RichiH | hmm |
| 13:46.25 | RichiH | dpkg: paste |
| 13:46.25 | remoteCTRL | abrotman: oh dear there comes my next problem; iceweasel doesnt launch, only if i sudo it nd then it says its in offline mode allthough i am obviously online-.- |
| 13:46.25 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 3 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! |
| 13:46.31 | RichiH | !test |
| 13:46.32 | dpkg | Test Failed. |
| 13:46.39 | RichiH | slaps dpkg |
| 13:46.42 | JyZyXEL | lol |
| 13:46.46 | abrotman | RichiH: it's my fault .. not the bot's |
| 13:46.47 | remoteCTRL | abrotman: nice delay:D |
| 13:46.50 | themill | RichiH: abrotman has been a naughty boy so dpkg is ignoring him |
| 13:46.56 | JyZyXEL | SIOCSIFMTU fails |
| 13:47.02 | RichiH | oh |
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| 13:47.23 | abrotman | remoteCTRL: you can use links to paste a file there IIRC |
| 13:47.28 | JyZyXEL | maybe i need to have the interface down? |
| 13:47.52 | JyZyXEL | oh wait how can i see what size frames my NIC supports |
| 13:47.58 | zxxxd | hi |
| 13:48.05 | abrotman | RichiH: i got a bit too excited about cleaning out useless factoids |
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| 13:48.08 | zxxxd | is there something like kickstart of redhat for debian? |
| 13:48.17 | abrotman | zxxxd: /msg dpkg fai |
| 13:48.18 | abrotman | zxxxd: /msg dpkg preseed |
| 13:48.47 | remoteCTRL | abrotman: the prob is i cant upload the file, but i just managed to get it online again, sec pls |
| 13:49.23 | abrotman | remoteCTRL: you can if you use links |
| 13:49.27 | JyZyXEL | i wonder whats happening now since im using 9k MTU on my main machine and 1500 on my other machine |
| 13:49.27 | karrotx | wols_: if i set the value to nothing does that make it unlimited? |
| 13:49.28 | abrotman | you know .. the CLI browser |
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| 13:50.20 | wols_ | dunno |
| 13:51.15 | remoteCTRL | abrotman: (hows that work if i cant connnect to the net with a browser?) the link is paste.debian.net/11338/ |
| 13:52.17 | zxxxd | abrotman, thanks |
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| 13:54.14 | zxxxd | abrotman, fai and pressed complete each other , or they are different aproaches to achive the same? |
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| 13:57.13 | remoteCTRL | abrotman: do you see that DRI initialization failed? |
| 13:57.59 | abrotman | zxxxd: they're kind of different |
| 13:58.25 | abrotman | i don't think a lack of DRI should cause it to lock |
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| 13:58.47 | abrotman | remoteCTRL: oh .. that's fglrx |
| 13:58.54 | abrotman | remoteCTRL: how did you install fglrx ? |
| 13:59.03 | abrotman | fixes cydork |
| 13:59.18 | remoteCTRL | abrotman: surely not but please consider that i installed fglrx meanwhile ever since then it doesnt freeze anymore but as said i dont seem to have a kernel module loaded... |
| 13:59.37 | remoteCTRL | abrotman: i downloaded that ...run file from amd.com |
| 13:59.53 | remoteCTRL | abrotman: then i ran it with -buldpkg Debian/lenny |
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| 14:00.11 | abrotman | Haas: turn off whatever script that is |
| 14:00.12 | remoteCTRL | abrotman: and then i dpkg -i the resulting driver.deb package |
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| 14:00.34 | abrotman | remoteCTRL: /msg dpkg fglrx one-liner |
| 14:00.47 | cydork | abrotman: you wish :) |
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| 14:00.54 | abrotman | fixes cydork |
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| 14:01.00 | remoteCTRL | /msg dpkg fglrx one-liner |
| 14:01.03 | remoteCTRL | oops |
| 14:01.50 | cydork | abrotman: i have been trying it for years.. |
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| 14:02.11 | abrotman | remoteCTRL: i'd like to see the log from the 'radeon' |
| 14:02.13 | abrotman | if you have it |
| 14:02.18 | abrotman | or if you can redo it |
| 14:02.22 | abrotman | or even vesa |
| 14:02.30 | abrotman | though you said vesa works |
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| 14:02.42 | remoteCTRL | abrotman: how do i do that? |
| 14:02.57 | abrotman | remoteCTRL: and does the whole system freeze? or just X ? |
| 14:03.48 | remoteCTRL | abrotman: now nothing freezes anymore, that was before i put vesa into the xorg.conf and then installed fglrx |
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| 14:03.58 | remoteCTRL | but then all but the mousepointer froze |
| 14:04.13 | remoteCTRL | couldnt change to tty and nothing else |
| 14:04.26 | abrotman | so fglrx doesn't freeze, but no DRI |
| 14:04.28 | abrotman | so no 3d |
| 14:04.41 | abrotman | try the fglrx one-liner .. see if it makes a difference |
| 14:04.45 | remoteCTRL | but ill try that procedure that dpkg just handed me, be back in a minute or two.. |
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| 14:04.55 | themill | remoteCTRL: is this etch or lenny? and what kernel? |
| 14:05.01 | remoteCTRL | yeah be back in a while, thanks so far! |
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| 14:05.26 | remoteCTRL | themill: i just upgraded from etch to lenny and its 2.6.25.something |
| 14:05.53 | remoteCTRL | 2.6.25.2-686 |
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| 14:05.55 | themill | remoteCTRL: And you picked up the newer fglrx in the process of that, I presume. |
| 14:06.19 | abrotman | themill: he did the ati.com installer |
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| 14:06.28 | themill | oh |
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| 14:06.46 | remoteCTRL | themill: as far as i have understood lenny uses an open source driver instead of the xorg 2d driver and instead of fglrx and that one seems to mess the xorg up |
| 14:07.35 | remoteCTRL | abrotman: themill: yes i first made it use vesa to be able to at least do SOMETHING i installed fglrx from amd.com |
| 14:08.00 | remoteCTRL | so ill try the on-lioner now and report back in a few, k? |
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| 14:08.19 | themill | good luck... |
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| 14:13.26 | talexb | Puzzling -- we have Cruise Control running builds for us and right now we're getting the warning "Package information file does not exist." -- I googled for that phrase, and Google didn't find anything that that quoted string. |
| 14:13.50 | abrotman | like .. Packages.gz ? |
| 14:14.03 | talexb | AFAICT all of the necessary files are in the DEBIAN sub-directory. |
| 14:14.26 | talexb | Packages.gz? What's that for? |
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| 14:17.35 | gkiagia | when I use synaptic and click the show details while it is installing packages, I see this message "** This build of Glib was compiled with glib 2.16.4, but is currently running with 2.16.3, which is too old. We'll continue, but expect problems!". what is this??? (debian lenny amd64 here) |
| 14:18.07 | talexb | Hmm .. but the build process works fine on my machine. |
| 14:18.09 | noboday | where can I find statistics on usage per release? |
| 14:19.08 | wols_ | what "usage"? |
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| 14:20.43 | abrotman | noboday: you were told .. popcon |
| 14:21.04 | remoteCTRL | abrotman: themill: this asks me if i would like to use the kernel framebuffer interface, is that a yes or a no? |
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| 14:21.13 | noboday | abrotman: sorry, I'm not finding it |
| 14:21.20 | abrotman | remoteCTRL: likely no |
| 14:21.26 | remoteCTRL | k, thanks |
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| 14:21.34 | macsim | hi, any place where I can buy a debian t-shirt and be sure a part of the price go back to debian project ? |
| 14:21.45 | talexb | abrotman Thanks anyway .. the cause may be unrelated to dpkg, but I'm still puzzled why the error message comes up with no hits on Google. |
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| 14:22.12 | idimmu | try microsoft live search |
| 14:22.33 | abrotman | macsim: i thought the debian-uk group was doing something like that .. but i can't say for certain .. maybe ask the debian-user mailing list |
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| 14:23.11 | macsim | abrotman, ok thanks I check this way |
| 14:23.35 | remoteCTRL | abrotman: ok i am init 6-ing... |
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| 14:26.09 | remoteCTRL | abrotman: ok i got a kernel mdule now! eureka, hehehe |
| 14:26.15 | abrotman | remoteCTRL: and DRI ? |
| 14:26.19 | remoteCTRL | how do i chekc now if the 3d accel is running? |
| 14:26.26 | remoteCTRL | umm no idea? |
| 14:26.39 | remoteCTRL | how do i see that? have to read xorg.log again? |
| 14:26.39 | abrotman | remoteCTRL: however .. it would be nice if you could document/send a bug about the radeon driver |
| 14:26.44 | defrysk | glxinfo | grep direct |
| 14:26.55 | remoteCTRL | defrysk: uh ok, sec pls |
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| 14:27.43 | remoteCTRL | :/ nope, says direct rendering: no |
| 14:27.57 | remoteCTRL | OpenGl renderer string: Mesa GLX indirect |
| 14:28.19 | barque | ok dist upgrade is done! |
| 14:28.24 | remoteCTRL | (if you wanna find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG= verbose |
| 14:28.27 | noboday | init 6? |
| 14:28.28 | barque | I'm Debian Lenny now? :o |
| 14:28.46 | defrysk | cat /etc/issue |
| 14:28.59 | abrotman | barque: you may want to try the dist-upgrade again |
| 14:29.31 | barque | er... why? |
| 14:29.46 | barque | it double checks or something? |
| 14:30.29 | remoteCTRL | um defrysk abrotman where do i set that LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose parameter, thats not a xorg.conf parameter, is it? |
| 14:30.42 | abrotman | i don't konw that |
| 14:30.49 | abrotman | barque: might not get them all the first time |
| 14:30.51 | defrysk | no clue |
| 14:31.01 | abrotman | remoteCTRL: check your X log |
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| 14:31.21 | remoteCTRL | humm... |
| 14:31.35 | remoteCTRL | kk guys you already helped me alot, thanks so far! |
| 14:31.40 | amphi | remoteCTRL: what card is this? |
| 14:31.44 | barque | ok |
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| 14:32.06 | barque | so when I asked dpkg to give me info on dist-upgrade it still wasn't clear whether I got my already installed packages upgraded or not |
| 14:32.11 | barque | does it only upgrade base system? |
| 14:32.28 | remoteCTRL | amphi: radeon mobility 9600 |
| 14:32.28 | De_Mon | barque dist-upgrade will upgrade existing packages and install new packages |
| 14:32.38 | De_Mon | barque you'll see a list of each if applicable |
| 14:33.11 | amphi | remoteCTRL: agpgart, intel_agp (or equiv.), drm, and radeon kernel modules are loaded? |
| 14:33.12 | barque | ah |
| 14:33.38 | remoteCTRL | amphi: sec, pls |
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| 14:34.20 | barque | so the main thing was basically aptitude update |
| 14:34.27 | remoteCTRL | amphi: drm is missing |
| 14:34.31 | barque | after going from repos for stable/etch to lenny |
| 14:34.49 | amphi | remoteCTRL: you need that - radeon should have loaded it IMHO |
| 14:34.52 | noboday | and btw, I think I can recommend something that I'm using |
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| 14:34.59 | noboday | with no risk |
| 14:35.03 | De_Mon | update downloads new packages lists, upgrade upgrades those packages, dist-upgrade upgrades everything |
| 14:35.13 | De_Mon | if you're switching dists you need to do a dist-upgrade |
| 14:35.14 | amphi | remoteCTRL: they need to be loaded in the order I gave them, AFAIK |
| 14:35.19 | barque | ahh |
| 14:35.20 | De_Mon | err, releases? |
| 14:35.24 | barque | dist-upgrade is like a world upgrade |
| 14:35.30 | barque | from base system to every single library and package |
| 14:35.31 | remoteCTRL | amphi: i will echo >> it into /etc/modules and reboot, brb |
| 14:35.39 | amphi | remoteCTRL: no need |
| 14:35.52 | De_Mon | upgrade blocks upgrades that require new packages (newer versions with more dependancies) |
| 14:35.59 | De_Mon | dist-upgrade doesn't block them |
| 14:36.01 | barque | mhm |
| 14:36.17 | barque | dist-upgrade is giving the OS more freedom |
| 14:36.25 | De_Mon | so upgrading to foo 1.2 doesn't depend on bar5, but foo 1.5 does |
| 14:36.25 | remoteCTRL | amphi: why not if it wont load? |
| 14:36.28 | barque | to move things around and splash'em all over |
| 14:36.35 | barque | does dist upgrade include kernel upgrade too? :P |
| 14:36.40 | barque | or base system |
| 14:36.44 | barque | (system binaries etc.) |
| 14:36.52 | De_Mon | you could upgrade to 1.4 (with no extra dependancies), and dist-upgrdae will add 1.5 and add bar5 |
| 14:36.52 | amphi | remoteCTRL: modprobe -r radeon && modprobe drm && modprobe radeon |
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| 14:37.21 | barque | 1.4? 1.5? |
| 14:37.26 | remoteCTRL | twice radeon? |
| 14:37.26 | barque | what are those versions for? |
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| 14:37.29 | amphi | remoteCTRL: I'm surprised radeon would load without drm; 'lsmod | grep drm' shows nothing? |
| 14:37.30 | De_Mon | IIRC upgrade will install updates to the existing kernel, depending on which package you have installed |
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| 14:37.46 | remoteCTRL | amphi: radeon isnt there fglrx is there? |
| 14:37.52 | De_Mon | 1.4 dodesn't depend on a new package (bar5) 1.5 does. it was an example (a bad one maybe) |
| 14:37.54 | barque | so even an upgrade might actually touch base system |
| 14:38.13 | themill | barque: of course. |
| 14:38.16 | remoteCTRL | amphi: lsmod | grep drm was basically the way how i looked for it, no its not there |
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| 14:38.23 | barque | Hmm I come from a BSD background so |
| 14:38.33 | barque | over there changing base system + kernel was a big event :) |
| 14:38.38 | De_Mon | if your kernel is installed from the virtual package kernel-image-2.4 that virtual package could point to 2.4.1 2.4.5, 2.4.200 |
| 14:38.53 | themill | barque: fixing a security hole in the kernel or in libc or whatever is common enough though |
| 14:39.03 | remoteCTRL | amphi: umm ok: FATAL: error inserting drm: Cannot allocate memory |
| 14:39.13 | remoteCTRL | wtf??? |
| 14:39.26 | maligor | maybe you have radeon loaded |
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| 14:39.45 | remoteCTRL | dooh, sec pls |
| 14:39.56 | barque | over there we'd either upgrade the ports and whatnot... OR , update the local source tree and build the binaries and kernel from scratch and libc and all... and then recompile our current ports to avoid conflicts between userland and system land :P |
| 14:39.57 | shefqeti | I would like to ask a question not really about Debian but for fiberoptic... could I ? |
| 14:40.15 | themill | barque: sucks to be over there then |
| 14:40.17 | barque | system binaries* |
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| 14:40.20 | maligor | can't really recommend use of fglrx on r300/r400, it tends to be really buggy |
| 14:40.29 | remoteCTRL | shefqeti: join #fiberoptic :D |
| 14:40.30 | barque | and by |
| 14:40.36 | barque | ports I mean the 'packages' |
| 14:40.52 | jelly | shefqeti: or ##hardware, possibly |
| 14:40.57 | De_Mon | barque you can put a package on hold so its never updated by apt |
| 14:40.57 | shefqeti | remoteCTRL: that was an invite only channel ... :p |
| 14:41.02 | remoteCTRL | maligor: well no 3d accel is unacceptable |
| 14:41.05 | barque | ahh |
| 14:41.13 | amphi | remoteCTRL: ah |
| 14:41.17 | remoteCTRL | shefqeti: really exists?? hahaha |
| 14:41.21 | maligor | remoteCTRL, erhm.. you get 3d on r300/r400 if that's what you have |
| 14:41.35 | remoteCTRL | rv350 |
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| 14:41.46 | shefqeti | remoteCTRL: I tried. I got kicked, lol |
| 14:41.51 | maligor | that falls under r300 |
| 14:41.56 | remoteCTRL | kk |
| 14:42.00 | barque | hmm but I had never experienced an OS where a simple package upgrade might mean system upgrade ... until now |
| 14:42.10 | barque | :) |
| 14:42.20 | shefqeti | please if anyone knows, Can a fiberoptic converter, singlemode 100FX, be connected to a cisco module 4OC48/POS-SR-SC ? |
| 14:42.43 | barque | seems kinda like Windows... but even better |
| 14:42.47 | barque | even in Windows you'd have to upgrade the system before upgrading the app (all by yourself) |
| 14:42.50 | themill | barque: what do you mean "a simple package upgrade might mean system upgrade"? |
| 14:42.58 | amphi | remoteCTRL: X is running when you try this? |
| 14:43.10 | remoteCTRL | amphi: try what? |
| 14:43.13 | remoteCTRL | load drm? |
| 14:43.13 | barque | well, the way I see it based on what I've gathered... let's say I wanna do a huge Xorg upgrade |
| 14:43.14 | remoteCTRL | yes |
| 14:43.18 | amphi | remoteCTRL: modprobing |
| 14:43.21 | remoteCTRL | yes |
| 14:43.22 | barque | that might make apt add patches to the kernel |
| 14:43.28 | barque | or the base system |
| 14:43.28 | remoteCTRL | shall i turn it off? |
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| 14:43.32 | barque | touch the 'OS' itself |
| 14:43.38 | barque | in a not-so-minor way |
| 14:43.41 | amphi | remoteCTRL: stop X and run the three commands I gave you, and see if that helps |
| 14:43.44 | remoteCTRL | btw the insetion into /etc/modules did not cure |
| 14:43.56 | barque | rather than ask you to ... 'go upgrade OS first, then run Xorg upgrade/install' |
| 14:44.02 | remoteCTRL | amphi: there is no such thing like a radeon module |
| 14:44.11 | remoteCTRL | can it be you mean fglrx? |
| 14:44.17 | themill | barque: You don't get to choose to do an xorg upgrade now vs later. You either track the stable release and so only get the occasional security update (and no new versions) or you track "testing" or "unstable" which are moving targets. |
| 14:44.24 | amphi | remoteCTRL: you're using fglrx? |
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| 14:44.35 | amphi | remoteCTRL: there is a kernel radeon drm module |
| 14:44.52 | themill | barque: In either case, you're not upgrading things piece at a time, you are always keeping a consistent set of packages that have been compiled against each other. |
| 14:44.53 | remoteCTRL | amphi: yes i am useing fglrx :D |
| 14:44.55 | barque | oh |
| 14:45.02 | barque | ahh |
| 14:45.08 | barque | I'm moving with the whole train |
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| 14:45.11 | barque | Interesting .... |
| 14:45.13 | remoteCTRL | amphi: modinfo gives info about drm but theres no such thing like a radeon module |
| 14:45.19 | barque | ok I've never been on such a ride |
| 14:45.42 | barque | So I'm guessing... that's it's recommended to always rely on repos |
| 14:45.46 | barque | than to download .debs |
| 14:45.53 | barque | on your own |
| 14:45.54 | amphi | remoteCTRL: I know nothing about fglrx; I don't think it supports that card |
| 14:46.05 | remoteCTRL | amphi: sure it does |
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| 14:46.26 | barque | one reason I got drawn to Debian was that... I thought hey... I got on websites and most of them have .debs for their stuff on top of the list |
| 14:46.31 | amphi | the card is supported by the xorg radeon driver, I believe |
| 14:46.50 | barque | so that might mean simply, freedom to download/install carelessly :P |
| 14:47.09 | themill | barque: aptitude update && aptitude upgrade (or dist-upgrade if you are using testing) is a regular thing to do. Sticking with things within the repositories is the best plan. |
| 14:47.09 | nam | HI, how do you install compiz-fusion on etch? |
| 14:47.20 | remoteCTRL | amphi: well dude, you dropped in late, so once again that one froze my laptop |
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| 14:47.34 | barque | right, since the repo guys never rip you off ;) (things don't break) |
| 14:47.38 | amphi | which 'one'? |
| 14:47.50 | remoteCTRL | the "native" xorg radeon driver |
| 14:47.54 | themill | barque: We did warn you that you were in for such a ride when you rashly decided to upgrade to lenny. |
| 14:47.57 | barque | pretty much at any stage, nothing is broken eh? |
| 14:48.05 | nam | have tried the shames repos to no avail. |
| 14:48.34 | barque | so there might be the occasional break and the huge influx of whining? :P |
| 14:48.57 | barque | but there was this complex graph on Wikipedia how things never break because of heavy moderation of changes etc. |
| 14:49.05 | barque | on Debian |
| 14:49.18 | remoteCTRL | i would just like to know WHERE i should set this LIBGL_DEBUD=verbose swith |
| 14:49.21 | remoteCTRL | in what config |
| 14:49.24 | nam | help install compiz please |
| 14:49.30 | KammyDoe | nam; no |
| 14:49.33 | KammyDoe | nam; google. |
| 14:49.35 | remoteCTRL | nam #compiz |
| 14:49.36 | KammyDoe | It's simple. |
| 14:49.40 | themill | barque: the idea is that testing is always in a releasable state so that buggy packages are kept out of it. Sometimes buggy packages make it in and sometimes things break. /msg dpkg bts ; /msg dpkg apt-listchanges ; /msg dpkg apt-listbugs |
| 14:49.45 | nam | tx |
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| 14:50.06 | remoteCTRL | well ill drive to my daughters birthdayparty now |
| 14:50.14 | remoteCTRL | nice weekend everybody |
| 14:50.33 | barque | meh fine with me |
| 14:50.53 | barque | I might say, I do have a bit of the sns syndrome |
| 14:51.17 | barque | but seriously ff2.0.0.12? get outta here ... |
| 14:51.35 | barque | I'd run Windows XP with no service pack if I wanted to be at that stage :D |
| 14:51.51 | themill | barque: reread the description of what stable is. |
| 14:52.12 | barque | /msg dpkg stable ? |
| 14:52.31 | wols_ | themill: he has no idea of any debian concept and no real clue about most of the stuff |
| 14:53.01 | barque | wols_, maybe that's because I just started using it? |
| 14:53.03 | wols_ | barque: stable as in "does not change. ever" |
| 14:53.16 | maligor | yeh, doesn't mean it doesn't crash |
| 14:53.18 | wols_ | barque: but maybe you should talk less bullshit then |
| 14:53.30 | barque | bullshit about what mr. Ad Hominem? |
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| 14:53.52 | wols_ | like what you just said about firefox for example |
| 14:53.56 | barque | are you still fired up about something exchanged ages ago? |
| 14:54.07 | barque | Maybe that was just slightly sarcastic |
| 14:54.08 | themill | barque: yes. Also, since ff3 has only been out for 3 weeks, you'll struggle to find any distributions that are shipping it. They will all be shipping firefox 2.0.0.something. Hell RHEL5 shipped last year with ff1.5 :( |
| 14:54.23 | wols_ | themill: ubuntu... |
| 14:54.23 | barque | Maybe, you need to lighten up |
| 14:54.25 | barque | really |
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| 14:54.39 | wols_ | !cluebat barque |
| 14:54.40 | dpkg | beats barque with the ClueBat of #debian. Roll 1d6... 3! Read the DFSG at http://www.debian.org/intro/free |
| 14:54.53 | wols_ | wow, very appropriate for him |
| 14:55.26 | pestilence | i have upgraded, and now `aptitude install -f` shows a ton of brokenness, while `apt-get install -f` shows nothing. and investigating the "broken" packages that aptitude is complaining about, none of them are actually broken |
| 14:55.28 | themill | wols_: there's an update for hardy with it... yay for stable ubuntu... |
| 14:55.31 | pestilence | any ideas? |
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| 14:55.37 | barque | wols.on.nimp.org, very appropriate for you |
| 14:55.43 | barque | you condesending asshole |
| 14:55.47 | themill | barque: enough |
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| 14:56.16 | superfirelord42 | thank you.... |
| 14:56.24 | wols_ | thanks |
| 14:56.27 | tomaw | np |
| 14:57.06 | wols_ | themill: hardy shipped with 3.0 |
| 14:57.11 | themill | b5 |
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| 14:57.18 | wols_ | 3.0b5 that is :) |
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| 14:58.48 | shyam_k` | hi i just saw this.. http://rubber.wordpress.com/2008/07/16/virus-alert/ how much valid it is..? |
| 15:00.31 | wols_ | I have the strange suspicion shyam_k` tried a browser exploit here |
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| 15:01.59 | yuastnav | What is the best recommended method to install java under Debian? |
| 15:02.00 | wols_ | shyam_k`: it's BS |
| 15:02.09 | wols_ | !tell yuastnav about install java |
| 15:02.29 | _Kewl_ | !tell install java |
| 15:02.29 | yuastnav | Thanks. |
| 15:02.41 | wols_ | !tell _Kewl_ about selftell |
| 15:03.13 | _Kewl_ | !tell about install java |
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| 15:03.41 | _Kewl_ | dont work!!! :( |
| 15:03.42 | shyam_k | sorry power problem.. |
| 15:03.48 | shyam_k | did anyone replied to me? |
| 15:03.59 | superfirelord42 | yes, wols_ did, he said its BS |
| 15:04.01 | KammyDoe | What do I need to install to play WAVE files? (.wav)? |
| 15:04.01 | wols_ | _Kewl_: don't selftell! |
| 15:04.13 | _Kewl_ | ok |
| 15:04.17 | _Kewl_ | wols_: ok |
| 15:04.24 | KammyDoe | !tell KammyDoe about selftell |
| 15:04.26 | KammyDoe | Lol. |
| 15:04.33 | KammyDoe | But yeah, What do I need to install to play WAVE files? (.wav) |
| 15:04.38 | vinilios_at_work | is it possible to enable dhcp client to run when i plug a cable at the interface ? |
| 15:04.40 | wols_ | _Kewl_: non specified virus threat which works corss platform is not believable unless give hard facts. the site did not |
| 15:04.50 | wols_ | erm, shyam_k` ^^ |
| 15:05.09 | wols_ | shyam_k`: and then actually _linking_ to the infected site is unconcionable |
| 15:05.31 | themill | vinilios_at_work: both network-manager and ifplugd can do this for you |
| 15:05.34 | wols_ | vinilios_at_work: allow-hotplug should do it afaik |
| 15:05.48 | wols_ | oh, themill is right I guess. scratch what I said |
| 15:05.50 | _Kewl_ | !tell _kewl_ about install java |
| 15:06.01 | wols_ | !tell _Kewl_ about selftell |
| 15:06.21 | wols_ | _Kewl_: READ what dpkg told you about selftell. DO NOT USE !tell on your OWN nick |
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| 15:06.27 | shyam_k | hmm i lll check i know the man who blogged it.. ill talk with him to know more what he saw.. |
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| 15:07.19 | _Kewl_ | i m newbie here...sorry this!! |
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| 15:08.05 | abrotman | !br |
| 15:08.11 | abrotman | grr |
| 15:08.15 | _Kewl_ | dpkg die |
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| 15:08.16 | dpkg | I'll murder you _kewl_! Skin you alive and toss you in the great salt lake! |
| 15:08.28 | _Kewl_ | heheh |
| 15:08.49 | maligor | touchy |
| 15:08.54 | PriitM | I think that bot should see therapist.. |
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| 15:09.02 | superfirelord42 | shyam_k according to some quick searches, i think the last linux virus in the wild was in 2003... |
| 15:09.36 | wols_ | abrotman: please tell me how you wronged dpkg. I don't want to share your fate someday |
| 15:09.42 | shyam_k | superfirelord42: hmm i was thinking whether the site linked there in is anything popular.. |
| 15:10.01 | shyam_k | The man who blogged is offline now.. |
| 15:10.08 | wols_ | shyam_k`: that is no debian question, you still have been answered. can you stop now? |
| 15:10.22 | themill | wols_: don't use "forget" more than 4 times in a day. |
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| 15:10.25 | superfirelord42 | wols_: sorry, i continued that one... ill stop... |
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| 15:11.09 | shyam_k | wols_: ok sorry about offtopic.. |
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| 15:12.09 | patco444 | The Best Online RPG / Strategy game ever : http://www.fallensword.com/?ref=1461055 |
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| 15:12.30 | twobitsprite | is there a way to get the netinst cd to install testing? seems like it only wants to install stable... |
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| 15:12.43 | patco444 | The Best Online RPG / Strategy game ever : http://www.fallensword.com/?ref=1461055 |
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| 15:20.05 | StucKman | hi all. which replacement for sysvinit would you recommend? |
| 15:20.24 | wols_ | why a replacement? |
| 15:21.25 | StucKman | wols_: I'm looking for one that knows about dependencies more that order given by the Sxx or Kxx |
| 15:22.05 | jelly | StucKman: is there a real problem behind this question? |
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| 15:22.54 | themill | StucKman: how often do you reboot? |
| 15:23.01 | StucKman | jelly: no, just a feature |
| 15:23.12 | StucKman | themill: often |
| 15:23.28 | StucKman | about twice daily |
| 15:23.32 | themill | StucKman: uhuh... why? |
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| 15:23.51 | jelly | themill: because suspend sucks :-) |
| 15:23.52 | StucKman | themill: I don't keep my machine on all the time |
| 15:24.08 | themill | StucKman: s2disk or s2ram then... |
| 15:24.11 | themill | jelly: it's not that bad# |
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| 15:24.46 | StucKman | themill: sometimes in to a different distro |
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| 15:25.05 | jelly | themill: its performance depends on kernel version, your hardware, which one of 2-4 implementatios you use, moon phase and other |
| 15:25.09 | themill | ahh..., so it's your promiscuity that is the problem. My mother always warned me against such things. |
| 15:25.32 | themill | jelly: suspend-to-disk is pretty robust and has been for some years. |
| 15:25.58 | StucKman | themill: hey, it's fun! |
| 15:26.00 | jelly | themill: yeah, until some driver starts making funny noises after third resume cycle |
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| 15:26.22 | StucKman | as long as I don't get any ... STD? |
| 15:26.37 | StucKman | 's no good with english acronyms |
| 15:26.41 | themill | jelly: eww? Never come across anything like that on quite a few laptops. |
| 15:26.50 | themill | StucKman: yeah, that's the one you're looking for. |
| 15:26.51 | jelly | themill: lucky |
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| 15:27.08 | xelapond | good morning everyone |
| 15:27.23 | xelapond | I am having trouble getting my Lenny disk to boot' |
| 15:27.36 | xelapond | it doesn't even ask me if it wants to boot from cd |
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| 15:27.52 | xelapond | I got the netisnt i386 |
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| 15:27.56 | StucKman | xelapond: define trouble |
| 15:27.59 | Lagbolt | xelapond, check bios settings if it wont boot from cd |
| 15:28.12 | StucKman | xelapond: ah, that's a bios problem |
| 15:28.13 | xelapond | it will boot a ubuntu livecd just fine |
| 15:28.32 | Lagbolt | oh then your cd is prob not bootable , can you mount it and see the files? |
| 15:28.33 | StucKman | xelapond: hmm, then it could be a burning problem |
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| 15:28.44 | StucKman | did you checked the disk was fine? |
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| 15:28.54 | _Kewl_ | wols_: tell me about install java at debian linux x86-64... it s not easy man!! |
| 15:28.55 | StucKman | did you check* |
| 15:29.12 | xelapond | it said burned succeeded |
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| 15:29.30 | StucKman | xelapond: but did you verify the data afterwards? |
| 15:29.31 | wols_ | blame sun, not us |
| 15:29.45 | xelapond | ill do that |
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| 15:30.17 | xelapond | yeah, there is stuff in the disk |
| 15:30.19 | xelapond | debian stuff |
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| 15:31.27 | StucKman | xelapond: try making a md5sum ant see if it matches the one from the iso |
| 15:31.38 | StucKman | md5sum /dev/cdrom |
| 15:31.42 | xelapond | ok |
| 15:31.52 | StucKman | and md5sum <iso_file> |
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| 15:33.26 | xelapond | how long should it take? |
| 15:33.33 | xelapond | and should it print output? |
| 15:34.17 | StucKman | xelapond: a couple of minutes |
| 15:34.30 | StucKman | and should ouput the resulting md5sum |
| 15:34.50 | themill | StucKman: md5sum of the device isn't guaranteed to work. |
| 15:35.24 | xelapond | ok |
| 15:35.26 | xelapond | it worked |
| 15:35.30 | xelapond | now its doing the iso |
| 15:35.34 | themill | !check iso image |
| 15:35.34 | dpkg | Test that an iso image was burned correctly by comparing the output of md5sum filename.iso; dd if=/dev/cdrom | head -c `stat --format=%s filename.iso` | md5sum |
| 15:35.52 | jelly | can module-assistant be made to automagically rebuild everything when a kernel package is installed or upgraded? |
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| 15:36.03 | rootmos | is there a wat to see the disk manufacturer if it is not in dmesg? |
| 15:36.16 | rootmos | wat=way |
| 15:36.41 | xelapond | StucKman: Yes, they are exactly the same |
| 15:37.39 | StucKman | xelapond: then I don't get it |
| 15:37.40 | wols_ | rootmos: smartctl -a |
| 15:37.42 | StucKman | try again |
| 15:37.54 | xelapond | ok |
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| 15:39.36 | twobitsprite | is there a way to install debian without booting the cd? i.e., I'm running on knoppix and I'm downloading the iso image, but I only have one cddrive and knoppix is using it |
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| 15:40.22 | shefqeti | twobitsprite: why wouldn't you preffer to boot from the install cd ? |
| 15:40.47 | NoxIn | shefqeti: he have to burn it and the knopix CD is in maybee |
| 15:41.29 | twobitsprite | shefqeti: what NoxIn said (also, what I said) |
| 15:41.38 | shefqeti | ah, it's a system without another os there ? |
| 15:41.42 | NoxIn | twobitsprite: you can try to put the iso on an usb jey and boot from the usb |
| 15:41.43 | twobitsprite | right |
| 15:41.44 | xelapond | StucKman: Yep, they are the same |
| 15:41.54 | xelapond | can I get the md5 of the image that check that? |
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| 15:42.03 | phreak | I've got a freshly installed lenny, and iceweasel just won't start. Returns imediatly without any output, and no process what so ever. Tried to --reinstall the package, but still the same. (On AMD64 btw). Any idea on where to start hitting it? |
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| 15:42.09 | twobitsprite | hmm... I was hoping there was some way to run the installer from the iso |
| 15:42.29 | StucKman | xelapond: in the same place you got the iso file |
| 15:42.31 | shefqeti | twobitsprite: there is one I know it. It just I haven't used it |
| 15:42.35 | NoxIn | with deboostrap etc yes ... but I don't know how it works |
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| 15:42.52 | xelapond | ok |
| 15:42.53 | StucKman | ok, out |
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| 15:43.00 | ootput | phreak: firefox -safe-mode |
| 15:43.28 | ootput | phreak: else, move your .mozilla profile elsewhere |
| 15:43.38 | phreak | ootput: It was my .mozilla that was borked... Thanks. |
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| 15:44.26 | ootput | phreak: was it a freshly installed lenny w/ a stale /home mount? :) |
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| 15:44.37 | phreak | ootput: No :) |
| 15:44.52 | xelapond | StucKman: It says look in the cd |
| 15:44.55 | xelapond | so I did |
| 15:44.57 | phreak | ootput: I really doubt that I started it as root (was permission-errors), but who knows. |
| 15:44.59 | NoxIn | twobitsprite: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s05.html |
| 15:45.02 | xelapond | that file is full of MD5s |
| 15:45.07 | xelapond | which one do I want? |
| 15:46.23 | ootput | phreak: righto :) |
| 15:47.02 | shefqeti | twobitsprite: check this article, you might find it useful: http://www.linux.com/articles/114165 |
| 15:47.29 | NoxIn | twobitsprite: also this one http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/426 (don't know if it's the same than shefqeti just gives :) ) |
| 15:47.37 | mardi | i like debian |
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| 15:48.07 | shefqeti | NoxIn: the more the better when it comes to learning :D |
| 15:48.42 | NoxIn | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:49.00 | twobitsprite | shefqeti: that's perfect... but it doesn't say where to get the vmlinuz or initrd ... just says "from the debian archives" |
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| 15:50.19 | twobitsprite | shefqeti: would it be the same one on the cd under install.386 directory? |
| 15:50.19 | NoxIn | twobitsprite: http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/main/installer-i386/current/images/hd-media/ |
| 15:50.37 | NoxIn | yes it should be the same than on the CD |
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| 15:50.46 | twobitsprite | NoxIn: cool, thanks |
| 15:50.56 | ralfWORK | anyone here have directions on making java6 packages for debian? |
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| 15:51.27 | SlayerXP | ralfWORK: use the java packaging package |
| 15:51.38 | vinilios_at_work | how can i use passwd inside a bash script ? (don't want the prompt) |
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| 15:51.54 | SlayerXP | ralfWORK: java-package iirc |
| 15:51.56 | ralfWORK | SlayerXP: when I run make-jpkg I get some errors |
| 15:52.22 | NoxIn | vinilios_at_work: I would use expect for this kind of things |
| 15:52.33 | ralfWORK | SlayerXP: http://pastebin.com/d700401c |
| 15:52.55 | slidesinger_lt | I have been having to move stuff from the deb box to a SCO box using the floppy as that is the only thing this box can read until I get the kernel relinked and have some networking. The first one was fine as I had a blank floppy that actually worked: tar cvf /dev/sda [files] took care of things just fine. |
| 15:52.56 | slidesinger_lt | Now I need to move a fresh batch of files and though the archive seems to create, tar tvf /dev/sda lists the files followed by a bunch of IO errors. Any suggestions? |
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| 15:53.10 | vinilios_at_work | NoxIn, any other way ? |
| 15:53.15 | NoxIn | vinilios_at_work: or you also have chpasswd which is designed to modify password in a batch |
| 15:53.16 | SlayerXP | ralfWORK: no idea. tried bunging those into google? |
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| 15:53.33 | Vorbote | ralfWORK: or backport openjdk/jre from Sid. |
| 15:54.26 | ralfWORK | SlayerXP: working google now... not getting anything useful just yet |
| 15:54.57 | shefqeti | twobitsprite: to my understanding, the general workflow is like: a. boot with a livecd b. get networking proper c. partition disk d. debootstrap from the debian servers into your fresh install partition e. install the bootloader f. reboot |
| 15:55.12 | ralfWORK | hmm |
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| 15:55.25 | ralfWORK | I'm assuming there is no plugin for this jre... dunno what that means though |
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| 15:56.27 | __pao__ | hi all |
| 15:56.52 | __pao__ | what is the suggested method for adding a static route at startup? I was looking at /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 15:57.32 | shefqeti | __pao__: the lazy ones add a "route" command to /etc/rc.local |
| 15:57.35 | twobitsprite | shefqeti: ok... yeah, I was just noticing that the iso doesn't have a boot map for the "map=" directive in lilo.conf |
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| 15:57.58 | vinilios_at_work | NoxIn, 10x chpasswd worked fine |
| 15:58.08 | NoxIn | vinilios_at_work: no problem :) |
| 15:58.11 | shefqeti | twobitsprite: The suggestion goes towards GRUB more than LILO |
| 15:58.20 | __pao__ | shefqeti: I fear rc.local can be executed even if network isn't up yet |
| 15:58.24 | NoxIn | __pao__: usaually I do it in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 15:58.50 | __pao__ | NoxIn: how? :-) |
| 15:58.51 | twobitsprite | shefqeti: either way it assumes you have a linux system already installed |
| 15:58.57 | NoxIn | __pao__: at the end of the eth0 definition for instance I had : up route add x.y.z.t gw a.b.c.d |
| 15:59.17 | __pao__ | NoxIn: perfect... that what I was looking :-) very kind |
| 15:59.18 | shefqeti | twobitsprite: that should be the running live-cd, no ? |
| 15:59.18 | NoxIn | the command will be executed when the interface get up |
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| 15:59.38 | NoxIn | __pao__: I run the iptables scripts the same way |
| 15:59.38 | __pao__ | NoxIn: s/looking/looking for/ |
| 16:00.19 | vinilios_at_work | is there any alternative to update-rc.d ? |
| 16:00.29 | __pao__ | NoxIn: thanks again |
| 16:00.40 | twobitsprite | shefqeti: well... grub will look for files in /boot which aren't there |
| 16:00.41 | twobitsprite | no? |
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| 16:01.04 | ootput | yes |
| 16:01.15 | shefqeti | twobitsprite: I think debootstrap will not install a bootloader... or will it ? |
| 16:01.29 | twobitsprite | no, I think you still have to install grub |
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| 16:01.42 | twobitsprite | so, I will have to bootstrap before installing grub |
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| 16:02.05 | twobitsprite | hmm... deboostrap is looking for a script file in /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts which I don't have |
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| 16:02.28 | shefqeti | twobitsprite: in that case, after debootstrap is done say in partition /dev/hda1 then you do a "chroot /mnt/where/dev/hda1/is" and then install grub |
| 16:03.28 | TehMarz | I have a problem. Basically, Debian has no sound. And when I go to Sound Preferences and test at all, an error pops up saying: |
| 16:03.29 | TehMarz | audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=music: Could not open audio device for playback. |
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| 16:04.37 | carax | TehMarz: what if you try speakertest -t wav in a terminal? |
| 16:05.21 | twobitsprite | shefqeti: yeah, that's what I'll do... thanks :) |
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| 16:05.25 | carax | TehMarz: err speaker-test -t wav |
| 16:06.27 | TehMarz | carax: http://pastebin.com/d47cde2e5 |
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| 16:06.57 | TehMarz | It then (infinite?) looped lines 6 and 7. |
| 16:06.58 | shefqeti | twobitsprite: you're welcome. But always take my words with a grain of salt. I'm in shaky ground with deboostrap :) |
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| 16:07.59 | carax | TehMarz: cat /proc/asound/cards - anything returned? |
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| 16:08.26 | jelly | speaker-test outputs pink noise... is pink noise gay? :-) |
| 16:08.49 | carax | jelly: try -t wav |
| 16:08.56 | TehMarz | carax: http://pastebin.com/d2bb3c6d7 |
| 16:09.17 | jelly | carax: I prefer pink noise! |
| 16:09.52 | Lagbolt | lol i study pink noise :) |
| 16:10.08 | shefqeti | what on earth is pink noise ? |
| 16:10.13 | carax | TehMarz: you have two sounddevices the, first some usb device |
| 16:10.17 | Lagbolt | shefqeti, has a 1/f power spectrum |
| 16:10.48 | jelly | Lagbolt: don't ruin it! |
| 16:10.55 | Lagbolt | :( sorry jelly |
| 16:11.03 | TehMarz | carax: Ah, that seems to be my webcam. |
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| 16:11.49 | carax | TehMarz: try speaker-test again after disconnecting the cam |
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| 16:12.10 | TehMarz | carax: Same response. |
| 16:12.26 | carax | TehMarz: try speaker-test again relaoding alsa |
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| 16:12.42 | jelly | Lagbolt: it's funny how pink noise is much more pleasant to the ear than white noise (random amplitude) |
| 16:12.45 | draft | hi |
| 16:12.45 | TehMarz | carax: How do I reload ALSA? |
| 16:12.56 | carax | try alsa force-reload |
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| 16:13.12 | draft | i've installed nvidia proprietary graphics driver on my debian system through the .sh provided on NVIDIA site. Does anyone know how to remove it ? (i just can set Driver to "nv" in my /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but i would like to remove it (to restart a fresh install with debian packages) ) |
| 16:13.28 | TehMarz | carax: alsa: command not found |
| 16:13.44 | Lagbolt | jelly, yeah probably because lower freq has more power. i think they are more pleasing to the ears than the high freqs |
| 16:14.36 | Lagbolt | TehMarz, /etc/init.d/alsa-utils or something i think |
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| 16:14.48 | Lagbolt | TehMarz, force-reload on that |
| 16:14.52 | carax | TehMarz: (might be for lenny and later) - in etch possibly /etc/init.d/alsa force-reload |
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| 16:15.19 | TehMarz | I'm using Lenny beta 2. |
| 16:15.20 | xelapond | StucKman: Ah, fixed it |
| 16:15.32 | TehMarz | But that path works. |
| 16:15.38 | xelapond | If anyone else has this problem tell them to get the daily image |
| 16:16.18 | TehMarz | carax: "Shutting down ALSA...warning: 'alsactl store' failed with error message 'alsactl: save_state:1524: Cannot open /var/lib/alsa/asound.state for writing: Permission denied'...failed." |
| 16:16.30 | TehMarz | "Setting up ALSA...done." |
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| 16:16.51 | carax | conflicting messages |
| 16:17.16 | TehMarz | Well, it seems to fail shutting down and then succeed setting up. Which is strange. |
| 16:17.24 | carax | TehMarz: cat /proc/asound/cards - any change? |
| 16:17.27 | \amethyst | TehMarz: are you running that as root? |
| 16:17.44 | TehMarz | No. I'll try su'ing. |
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| 16:18.08 | TehMarz | Okay, that worked. |
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| 16:18.34 | \amethyst | in general, things in /etc/init.d assume they will be run with root privileges |
| 16:18.43 | \amethyst | since init runs with root privileges |
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| 16:19.19 | TehMarz | The ALSA reload worked, but the error remains, and there's no change in cat .../cards |
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| 16:20.09 | carax | TehMarz: modprobe -r snd-usb-audio and reload alsa |
| 16:20.10 | shefqeti | TehMarz: why don't you try a different aproach? Like try a live-cd and if sound works, examine the driver loaded and it's parameters ? |
| 16:20.37 | TehMarz | carax: FATAL: Module snd_usb not found. |
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| 16:20.50 | carax | TehMarz: modprobe -r snd-usb-audio ? |
| 16:21.03 | TehMarz | carax: That's the response. |
| 16:21.11 | TehMarz | Oh wait |
| 16:21.20 | TehMarz | Nevermind, lacked a - |
| 16:21.54 | TehMarz | No change. |
| 16:22.25 | TehMarz | It could be a missing package? This system is just the Debian core, xorg, gnome, and a few I added in myself. |
| 16:22.26 | comp | hello, is there some tool which does exact reverse of apt-file? ie. display which files a specified package installs .. |
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| 16:22.48 | carax | TehMarz: ok see if asoundconf lets you set the via as default sound device |
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| 16:25.13 | shefqeti | comp: to see what files a package has installed, try "dpkg -L packagename" |
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| 16:25.59 | TehMarz | carax: No response; no effect. |
| 16:26.38 | stony | how do i store settings of the iproute package in debian to get the rules back up after rebooting ? |
| 16:26.42 | stony | is there a config file somewhere ? |
| 16:26.54 | comp | shefqeti: -L ? I'm not on a Debian machine right now, I'll try it in few minutes, but many manpages availabne through Google doesn't mention any -L option .. |
| 16:27.11 | dutchfish | stony, you mean the one from route add foo etc? |
| 16:27.15 | carax | TehMarz: you say asoundconf list returns nothing? |
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| 16:27.36 | comp | shefqeti: ah, found one newer ... thanks :) |
| 16:27.49 | TehMarz | carax: asoundconf list returns "Names of available sound cards: / V8237". |
| 16:27.49 | stony | dutchfish: no, i'm talking about the iproute package and the ip command in special - i'm not talking about the default settings that i can store in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 16:28.13 | shefqeti | comp: you're welcome man |
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| 16:28.25 | shefqeti | stony: see what says "man iptables-save" |
| 16:28.26 | stony | dutchfish: to use /etc/network/interfaces i need to use the manual mode ... |
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| 16:28.41 | jelly | stony: no established way to do it. add post-up lines to /etc/network/interfaces stanzas |
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| 16:28.53 | stony | shefqeti: shefqeti wrong tool |
| 16:28.55 | jelly | shefqeti: iptables is not iproute. |
| 16:29.06 | stony | jelly: ok, thx |
| 16:29.21 | shefqeti | well my bad, i can hardly separate iproute and iptables |
| 16:29.58 | Sysctl___ | anyone got an idea as to why apache on debian seems to cause .htaccess rewriterules in directories to be inherited by their sub-directories? |
| 16:30.08 | MoDaX | does anyone know something about problems which could have makde sid unbootable today? |
| 16:30.09 | dutchfish | stony, normally in ipcfg-xxx rules and ifup and ifdown scripts |
| 16:30.10 | shefqeti | stony: but in that case, I know no standard way of doing it other than some small scripting to save and restore |
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| 16:30.26 | jelly | stony: eg. I add a crapload of ip addresses this way: http://pastebin.ca/1073507 |
| 16:30.35 | stony | dutchfish: yeah as i said - the manual way in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 16:30.38 | jelly | dutchfish: ipcfg-xxx whatnow? |
| 16:30.42 | superfirelord42 | Sysctl___: i thought it was supposed to do that.... |
| 16:30.42 | stony | but this will get a hellride with about 200 rules |
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| 16:31.04 | dutchfish | jelly, http://www.policyrouting.org/iproute2.doc.html#ss9.13 |
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| 16:31.27 | jelly | stony: well, put them all into a separate script and run it in post-up |
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| 16:31.37 | dutchfish | or that |
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| 16:31.47 | stony | jelly: i think i'll use the manual way |
| 16:32.02 | stony | thx anyway :) |
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| 16:32.09 | Sysctl___ | superfirelord42: ppl in the apache channel seemed to think it shouldnt... how do i prevent it from happening then? |
| 16:32.29 | stony | Sysctl___: .htaccess files are recursive, aren't they ? |
| 16:32.49 | jelly | dutchfish: dunno, these "/etc/rc.d/init.d/" quotes do not strike me as particularly debianish |
| 16:32.53 | dutchfish | stony, example: http://www.policyrouting.org/iproute2.doc.html#ss9.14 |
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| 16:33.12 | dutchfish | jelly, right |
| 16:33.36 | biatche | how do i find a specific dirpath without using slocate? like "search for directories named AbCdE in /find/directory/here"? I can use ls -R "AbCdE" but that wont give me the path. |
| 16:33.40 | dutchfish | jelly, couldnt find a debian way neither when i needed it back then |
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| 16:33.52 | dutchfish | s/neither/either |
| 16:34.21 | stony | Sysctl___: isn't there a way to disable the recursive way by adding an "L" |
| 16:34.22 | Pheagator | biatche: find /find/directory/here -type d -name "AbCdE" ? |
| 16:34.28 | jelly | dutchfish: well, something that tells you how to do it in redhat is just plain wrong |
| 16:34.30 | Sysctl___ | stony: any way to stop it frmo being recurisive? or at least write my rewritecond so that it fails on what looks like a directory in %{REQUEST_FILENAME} ? |
| 16:34.46 | stony | biatche: use -iname instead ... |
| 16:34.51 | biatche | oh thats simple, thx |
| 16:34.53 | biatche | k |
| 16:35.04 | dutchfish | jelly, ok, now i wanne have a clue how to do it (the debian way) |
| 16:35.18 | Sysctl___ | stony: well, heres what my htaccess file looks like http://pastebin.ca/1073475 |
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| 16:35.45 | _Kewl_ | someone here is a freenode staff? |
| 16:35.50 | stony | jelly: you add an iface with the manual option to the interfaces file and then add up and down commands via the up, post-up and down pre-down options in the subsection of the iface |
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| 16:36.02 | stony | s/jelly/dutchfish |
| 16:36.08 | stony | that's it |
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| 16:36.19 | dutchfish | ok, clear thanks |
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| 16:37.49 | jelly | stony, dutchfish: they seem to also work for dhcp. my network-over-bluetooth-phone: http://pastebin.ca/1073513 |
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| 16:38.18 | stony | Sysctl___: you can also add an htaccess file to the subdirectory and put a RewriteEngine Off there |
| 16:38.24 | bobo | hello ppl |
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| 16:39.24 | dutchfish | jelly, ok, to make it a bi tmore complex i need snat/dnat along, would that work? |
| 16:39.39 | Sysctl___ | stony: ya, but unfortunately, in my case, what i need to write should only apply to the directory where the htaccess file exists, without having to worry about creating subsequent htaccess files however x many sub-directories there may be |
| 16:39.48 | dutchfish | jelly, got it thanks! |
| 16:39.51 | jelly | dutchfish: you can run any commands you like in up, down, etc. lines |
| 16:39.59 | stony | Sysctl___: or use RewriteCond and test if the PATH_INFO matches the path you want the rewrite to happen in |
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| 16:42.31 | jeffwheeler | I want to run several simple commands on a remote machine (connected via SSH, obvious), but without uploading a shell script to that machine. |
| 16:42.35 | jeffwheeler | Is there any way I can just execute a local shell script remotely? |
| 16:42.37 | Sysctl___ | stony: cheers, let me test that |
| 16:42.45 | jeffwheeler | I _could_ just use ssh and list the commands afterwards, but this seems fairly ugly. |
| 16:43.20 | stony | jeffwheeler: no |
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| 16:43.39 | shefqeti | jeffwheeler: there is, but most probably you would like to upload some ssh keys to the remote machine first, to avoid entering the password |
| 16:43.42 | jeffwheeler | stony: so then, what's the best alternative? Just disconnecting and reconnecting a bunch of times with "ssh command" |
| 16:44.05 | stony | jeffwheeler: you can get a stream to an ssh connection and work on this stream |
| 16:44.14 | stony | jeffwheeler: python offers such a method |
| 16:44.37 | jeffwheeler | stony: hmm, I've never heard of doing that; do you know of any resources about that? |
| 16:44.54 | jeffwheeler | stony: I'm using Python anyways |
| 16:45.09 | jeffwheeler | (In addition to plain shell scripts.) |
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| 16:45.34 | stony | jeffwheeler: iirc you simple open a file object on the ssh-command, after the connection you can read and write to this file and send the commands to the remote host |
| 16:45.42 | twobitsprite | how do you give a chroot environment the ability to access /dev? |
| 16:45.59 | jeffwheeler | stony: hmm, I'll try that, thanks |
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| 16:46.10 | jelly | twobitsprite: mknod the devices needed? |
| 16:46.10 | stony | jeffwheeler: and have a look at this: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/PuSSH/1.05 |
| 16:46.15 | themill | twobitsprite: /msg dpkg fixgrub |
| 16:46.43 | shefqeti | jeffwheeler: try this: ssh user@remote.machine "ls -l" |
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| 16:47.03 | dutchfish | jeffwheeler, you also might want to delve in fsh |
| 16:47.13 | n3kl | what is the command used to restart services? I just foud something debian specific the other day and can't remember what it is. |
| 16:47.18 | jeffwheeler | shefqeti: yeah, I know how to do that, but the problem is that I have several commands |
| 16:47.30 | jeffwheeler | shefqeti: I don't want to reconnect, and putting in one huge string is ugly, too |
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| 16:48.00 | stony | jeffwheeler: best is to use the fileobject stream on the ssh command |
| 16:48.03 | themill | n3kl: invoke-rc.d scriptname action |
| 16:48.40 | stony | jeffwheeler: i've seen someone doing this, but i can't find the page anymore |
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| 16:48.55 | jeffwheeler | stony: okay, thanks |
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| 16:49.46 | shefqeti | jeffwheeler: as about not logging in several times I don't know, but you can replace the command with an executable script which contains all the commands and executes them in one go |
| 16:49.52 | webPragmatist | Hey I'm trying to install mysql server... but I'm getting an error I haven't seen before... |
| 16:50.19 | rwaite | have you mooed today? |
| 16:50.31 | mafu | Hello there. Does someone in here have a little handy guide to set up RAID1 on two identical disks on a running system? Debian is on a third disk and will not be part of the RAID. I've been googleing, no luck. :) |
| 16:50.42 | jeffwheeler | shefqeti: hmm, are you sure? I just tried executing passing it a local shell script and it treated it as a _remote_ command, so it couldn't find it. |
| 16:50.47 | jeffwheeler | (Which makes total sense.) |
| 16:52.06 | stony | mafu: man mdadm |
| 16:52.19 | jelly | jeffwheeler: do any of your commands require an interactive session (a terminal)? |
| 16:52.20 | stony | mafu: mdadm --create is you fav |
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| 16:52.57 | mafu | stony: as easy as that? Nice. :) |
| 16:53.21 | shefqeti | jeffwheeler: you were right. then please try: ssh user@remote.host < localcommands.sh |
| 16:53.28 | jeffwheeler | jelly: hmm? They shouldn't: very simple mailman/bin things from which I need to read the stdin, and then loop through running other commands. |
| 16:53.56 | Sysctl___ | stony: pfff, for some reason PATH_INFO isn't there and "AcceptPathInfo On" doesnt do anything |
| 16:53.58 | jeffwheeler | shefqeti: that works perfectly; thanks :D |
| 16:54.01 | Sysctl___ | *grumbles* |
| 16:54.33 | stony | jeffwheeler: you need to use os.popen2 - that does the trick |
| 16:54.46 | jelly | right |
| 16:54.55 | jelly | fsh does that. :-) |
| 16:54.55 | shefqeti | jeffwheeler: you're welcome man |
| 16:55.03 | jelly | !info fsh |
| 16:55.29 | dutchfish | jelly, not in debian (yet, i checked just) |
| 16:55.41 | themill | jelly: only in oldstable |
| 16:55.49 | jelly | eh |
| 16:56.00 | jelly | it was a bit unreliable anyway |
| 16:56.00 | dutchfish | jelly, http://debian.cs.binghamton.edu/debian/pool/main/f/fsh/ |
| 16:56.01 | stony | Sysctl___: you're accessing the variable by using %{VAR_NAME} ? |
| 16:56.11 | shefqeti | jeffwheeler: there is a trick to avoid the password prompt. It involves taking a couple of ssh key files from the local to the remote machine so it treats it as if the password is given and won't prompt you |
| 16:56.34 | Sysctl___ | stony: RewriteCond %{PATH_INFO} ^/ |
| 16:56.35 | stony | shefqeti: the trick is called public key auth |
| 16:56.43 | jeffwheeler | shefqeti: yeah, I will setup SSH keys briefly |
| 16:56.45 | themill | !dbugs 396039 |
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| 16:56.49 | dpkg | DONE:#396039:N[ftp.debian.org] RM: fsh -- RoM; superseded by openssh; Sun, 29 Oct 2006 13:48:21 UTC |
| 16:56.54 | themill | jelly: ^^ |
| 16:56.58 | webPragmatist | Err sorry got distracted... I'm installing mysql and getting this error > " WARNING: /etc/mysql/my.cnf cannot be read. See README.Debian.gz" |
| 16:57.04 | shefqeti | stony: thanks. :) I never used it, just seen others do it |
| 16:57.25 | jelly | themill: they seem to have conveniently forgotten you sometimes can't update both end of a ssh connection |
| 16:57.37 | twobitsprite | webPragmatist: installing from apt? |
| 16:57.40 | shefqeti | webPragmatist: is that a fresh install of mysql ? |
| 16:57.42 | webPragmatist | no aptitude |
| 16:57.48 | webPragmatist | "so yea" |
| 16:57.53 | jeffwheeler | By the way, #openssh pointed out that if I use a heredoc or string, SSH won't create a temporary script on the remote side. |
| 16:58.02 | twobitsprite | webPragmatist: ok... and you get the error while running "aptitude install mysql"? |
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| 16:58.05 | webPragmatist | shefqeti: well i think i have done a purge on another install it before |
| 16:58.11 | webPragmatist | twobitsprite: yes :) |
| 16:58.21 | stony | Sysctl___: i'm not sure, if the path_info is the full path or not - i think that's documented somewhere in the apache docs ... |
| 16:58.30 | stony | Sysctl___: find out what's inside PATH_INFO |
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| 16:58.31 | webPragmatist | shefqeti: of it before* |
| 16:58.43 | bbs | how can i pin experimental to unstable/ |
| 16:58.47 | themill | jeffwheeler: you can look into the "master" options for ssh so that you have one connection open and then subsequent connections don't have the connection and crypto setup overhead |
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| 16:58.48 | jelly | jeffwheeler: well, you only need a real temp file for config_list -i, mostly everything else accepts - |
| 16:58.54 | stony | Sysctl___: the available variables and how it works is documented here: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/mod_rewrite.html#rewritecond |
| 16:58.56 | Sysctl___ | stony: when I get a var_dump ( $_SERVER ), PATH_INFO doesnt show up anywhere |
| 16:59.03 | webPragmatist | twobitsprite: it's like not recreating the my.cnf file |
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| 16:59.26 | twobitsprite | webPragmatist: what distro? |
| 16:59.26 | webPragmatist | and i've tried dpkg-reconfigure on mysql-server-5.0 |
| 16:59.28 | webPragmatist | etch |
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| 16:59.40 | shefqeti | webPragmatist: I think the installation will recreate the my.cnf file. It will not if you don't purge, but you have purged... |
| 17:00.01 | webPragmatist | shefqeti: well plus it's not even "there" |
| 17:00.01 | dutchfish | themill, jelly too many jewels have been lost in time and dustet away .... sometimes the aproach was wrong, not the idee ... |
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| 17:00.12 | Hamish | Hello. How could I make a program restart once killed by the system? |
| 17:00.25 | rahsputin | hi! i am looking for a possiblity to use flash player in Dillo.Is there one? |
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| 17:00.35 | stony | Hamish: start-stop-daemon can do this for you iirc |
| 17:00.36 | jelly | Hamish: is it a daemon/service? |
| 17:00.49 | Hamish | no, just a program |
| 17:00.54 | shefqeti | webPragmatist: what if you open the .deb file and take the file you need by hand? |
| 17:00.58 | Kumool | rahs i dont think it can b don |
| 17:01.13 | stony | is off |
| 17:01.16 | stony | caya |
| 17:01.17 | stony | cya |
| 17:01.20 | jelly | Hamish: wrap it in an infinite loop? |
| 17:01.24 | shefqeti | byes stony |
| 17:01.26 | rahsputin | hm, ok. thanx Kumool |
| 17:01.38 | Hamish | how's that? |
| 17:01.46 | Kumool | ? dont take my word for it lol |
| 17:01.47 | jelly | Hamish: while :; do your_app; sleep 1; done |
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| 17:02.16 | jelly | Hamish: is it an interactive app (does it run in a terminal or open an X window)? |
| 17:02.31 | Hamish | both |
| 17:02.50 | Hamish | I mean on the X windows server is on another computer |
| 17:02.54 | berzerka | Hamish: if it was some kind of basic system service or the like, you could add it to /etc/inittab as respawning. |
| 17:02.58 | mr_flea | I need a newer version of libc6 to install the required version of a particular package (part of libboost), but when I try to install the newer version of libc6, I get this nasty looking message: http://rafb.net/p/2rPaol26.html |
| 17:03.15 | Hamish | berzerka: I start that program by hand |
| 17:03.23 | jelly | Hamish: which app is this? |
| 17:04.03 | berzerka | Hamish: yeh i got that after having typed half the answer, just fyi. |
| 17:04.17 | themill | mr_flea: are you currently running etch? lenny? ..? |
| 17:04.31 | jelly | mr_flea: you don't want to upgrade libc6 if you don't know EXACTLY what you're doing |
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| 17:04.37 | Hamish | will this also write to log when app was killed and restarted? - while :; do your_app;echo $date - killed!>log; sleep 1; done |
| 17:04.44 | jetscreamer | i bet it's etch and he's trying to dpkg -i it |
| 17:04.53 | jetscreamer | !backports |
| 17:04.53 | dpkg | i heard backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port, http://backports.org/. Ask me about <simple sid backport> and <backport caveat>, <backports.org> |
| 17:04.55 | mr_flea | jelly: well, yeah, that's what the message pretty much said. That's why I came here. |
| 17:04.59 | jelly | Hamish: >> log, but pretty much yeah |
| 17:05.13 | Hamish | oh yeah >>for appending, thanks |
| 17:05.17 | jelly | Hamish: (and make sure that log file exists) |
| 17:05.32 | Hamish | okie, thanks! |
| 17:06.00 | mr_flea | themill: etch. I'd be willing to run unstable to get it, though. As long as it's not sid. |
| 17:06.10 | jelly | Hamish: echo "$(date) your_app died with exit status $?" |
| 17:06.17 | jetscreamer | lol |
| 17:06.23 | jetscreamer | mr_flea: backports |
| 17:06.32 | jetscreamer | mr_flea: sid is unstable |
| 17:06.35 | Hamish | jelly: it dies because of eating up memory always :) |
| 17:06.42 | jelly | Hamish: or if you want to be real fancy, use "logger" to write to syslog :-) |
| 17:06.50 | mr_flea | jetscreamer: Whoops. I meant testing. |
| 17:06.57 | jetscreamer | :) |
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| 17:07.00 | jetscreamer | testing is good |
| 17:07.01 | mr_flea | jetscreamer: Which I think I'm already running. |
| 17:07.05 | jetscreamer | not for a server though |
| 17:07.07 | jelly | Hamish: yeah. I restart parts of xfce that way for the same reason |
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| 17:07.16 | Hamish | jelly: will learn that later, >> will do for now :)thanks |
| 17:07.17 | jetscreamer | !version |
| 17:07.17 | dpkg | Kernel: uname -r. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version. and: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n 1. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command. check /etc/apt/sources.list; run apt-cache policy <packagename>, or lsb_release -a, or cat /proc/version |
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| 17:07.55 | mr_flea | jetscreamer: Wait, so is there a way to get libboost 1.35 without updating libc6? |
| 17:08.04 | jetscreamer | !backports |
| 17:08.05 | dpkg | backport is probably a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port, http://backports.org/. Ask me about <simple sid backport> and <backport caveat>, <backports.org> |
| 17:08.22 | Hamish | jelly: what's difference between $date and $(date)? |
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| 17:09.05 | jelly | Hamish: $(date) or `date` gives out the output of command "date". $date is the contents of shell variable "date" |
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| 17:09.43 | dutchfish | abpg |
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| 17:09.57 | jetscreamer | bcqh |
| 17:10.07 | jelly | Hamish: $date will be an empty string which probably isn't what you wanted |
| 17:10.34 | Hamish | oh, indeed:) |
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| 17:11.09 | Hamish | thanks again! have a nice time |
| 17:11.39 | twobitsprite | I installed grub in my chroot, but it didn't provide a menu.lst ... |
| 17:11.51 | twobitsprite | can I just write one, or is there some other thing I need to do? |
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| 17:12.52 | jeward | I have two boxes hanging on mysql upgrades: Preparing to replace mysql-common 5.0.32-7etch5 (using .../mysql-common_5.0.32-7 |
| 17:13.01 | jeward | Any idea how to get them unstuck? |
| 17:13.07 | rofi | you can find example menu.lst in /usr/share/doc/grub/examples |
| 17:13.44 | twobitsprite | rofi: ok... does grub automatically know to look for that file, or do I need to tell it to? |
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| 17:14.04 | shefqeti | twobitsprite: and if after the reboot you don't get into the newly install system, don't erase it. the system is there, you only have to install the bootloader (grub) properly |
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| 17:14.48 | Ksz | hello |
| 17:14.48 | jetscreamer | it's automagical, |
| 17:14.57 | Ksz | how to go from debian 4.0 to debian testing? |
| 17:15.19 | jetscreamer | etch->testing |
| 17:15.25 | jetscreamer | !etch->testing |
| 17:15.31 | Ksz | yes? |
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| 17:15.37 | Ksz | so |
| 17:15.39 | jetscreamer | !etch->lenny |
| 17:15.52 | jetscreamer | !listkeys -> |
| 17:15.53 | dpkg | Factoid search of '->' by key (15 of 88): #debian lilo->grub ;; #debian sarge->sid ;; #debian-bots sarge->etch ;; _default crlf->unix ;; _default slink->potato ;; _default stable->testing ;; lilo->grub ;; mp3->ogg ;; potato->r4 ;; potato->unstable ;; potato->woody ;; stable->testing ;; windows->woody ;; with -> ;; woody->unstable. |
| 17:15.55 | jetscreamer | !!listkeys -> |
| 17:16.07 | Ksz | stable->testing |
| 17:16.11 | Ksz | !stable->testing |
| 17:16.23 | webPragmatist | hey when it says "See README.Debian.gz" is there a way to view it directly? |
| 17:16.30 | LieZ^ | Should my proftpd conf file have text in it by default? |
| 17:16.31 | Ksz | why it is not working |
| 17:16.33 | shefqeti | twobitsprite: if the file is in /boot/grub I think it's fine |
| 17:16.35 | fengor | webPragmatist: zless |
| 17:16.36 | jetscreamer | iirc just change the sources from stable or etch to lenny |
| 17:16.39 | twobitsprite | shefqeti: ok, thanks |
| 17:16.45 | jetscreamer | webPragmatist: zless |
| 17:16.52 | webPragmatist | ok thanks |
| 17:16.53 | amphi | webPragmatist: zless or w3m |
| 17:16.55 | jetscreamer | twobitsprite: http://linux.hfds.com/files/menu.lst for an example |
| 17:17.05 | twobitsprite | jetscreamer: I got one, thanks :) |
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| 17:17.43 | jetscreamer | yes it looks for it by default in boot/grub ... you can change theat if you wish though |
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| 17:18.17 | moshe | hi, anyone knows a reason for this bug? http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org/msg542065.html |
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| 17:18.46 | jeward | I have two servers hanging here on aptitude upgrade: Preparing to replace mysql-common 5.0.32-7etch5 (using .../mysql-common_5.0.32-7etch6_all.deb) ... |
| 17:18.47 | jeward | How can I fix them? |
| 17:19.09 | ootput | does cgi in lighttpd in debian (lenny) require anything special besides a symlink to conf-available? |
| 17:19.20 | mr_flea | jetscreamer: you wouldn't happen to know how to get the kernel to automatically ignore an IRQ on boot, would you? |
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| 17:19.55 | adama | how do I tell grep to just print the filenames of the files that match |
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| 17:20.16 | jetscreamer | mr_flea: no that's beyond me, but i've seen such things about assigning irq's in bios |
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| 17:20.31 | jetscreamer | when you turn off plug&play os |
| 17:20.33 | dutchfish | moshe, check /etc/X11/Xsession.options if dbus isnt disabled. |
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| 17:21.12 | mr_flea | jetscreamer: Hmm. I still need to check the BIOS, I think. But anyway, I was asking because I've got either a bad board or a bad BIOS and IRQ 11 always has an error when there's a lot of network traffic. |
| 17:21.29 | mr_flea | (IRQ 11 doesn't even have anything to do with the network, it's USB.) |
| 17:21.38 | dutchfish | moshe, on debian etch or lenny? |
| 17:21.52 | adama | I got it, grep -l |
| 17:21.54 | abrotman | moshe: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=490345 .. did you read the whole bug? it tells you why |
| 17:21.59 | mr_flea | Thanks jetscreamer, themill, jelly. |
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| 17:22.31 | irule | apt-get -yq install sun-java5-jdk tomcat5.5 tomcat5.5-admin tomcat5.5-webapps "The JAVA_HOME variable must be set correctly to your Java5 installation." how? :D thanks! |
| 17:22.31 | jetscreamer | mr_flea: you might want to enable APIC |
| 17:22.39 | jetscreamer | mr_flea: it gives you more irq's |
| 17:22.46 | jetscreamer | but your mb has to support it |
| 17:22.54 | jetscreamer | (i'm not real up on it) |
| 17:23.07 | jetscreamer | !apic |
| 17:23.07 | dpkg | from memory, apic is an Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller (APIC) is a more intricate Programmable Interrupt Controller (PIC). It contains a magnitude more outputs and much more complex priority schemas. One of the best known APIC architectures, the Intel APIC Architecture, is now replacing the original 8259A PIC in newer x86 PCs. |
| 17:23.30 | jelly | where newer means >= 1999 |
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| 17:23.46 | themill | irule: first make sure your java alternatives are sensibly set with update-java-alternatives. If it still complains, set JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun |
| 17:24.24 | moshe | abrotman: oh thanks, i didn't see the replies for some reason :) |
| 17:24.37 | mr_flea | jetscreamer: Well, usually it reports some problem with IRQ 11 that causes the kernel to begin ignoring it. When I booted FreeBSD on the same machine, it said something about an IRQ flood. |
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| 17:25.02 | mr_flea | I always get a big long debug trace in dmesg whenever it disables it. |
| 17:25.18 | jetscreamer | mr_flea: you can try moving the pci card(s) to another slot |
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| 17:25.29 | mr_flea | jetscreamer: It's the USB IRQ, though. |
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| 17:25.50 | mr_flea | That computer doesn't have any PCI cards. |
| 17:25.57 | jetscreamer | ah |
| 17:26.12 | mr_flea | It's crazy. I've given up trying to fix it. >.> |
| 17:26.20 | jetscreamer | try turning off assign irq to vga maybe? |
| 17:26.41 | jetscreamer | turn the nic off in bios and see if it still does it |
| 17:27.21 | mr_flea | I'll poke around the BIOS after it finishes its current job. |
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| 17:28.29 | dutchfish | mr_flea, do you have a usb-hub connected to this computer maybe? |
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| 17:28.42 | mr_flea | dutchfish: nothing is connected to USB. |
| 17:29.06 | ignotus | hello, with which software can I webcam chat (through MSN)? |
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| 17:29.09 | mr_flea | It's just the board with required pieces, HDD, power, and LAN connected. |
| 17:29.09 | dutchfish | Mr_Deffy, ok |
| 17:29.28 | jelly | mr_flea: pastebin your /proc/interrupts; usb might not be the only thing using irq11 |
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| 17:30.12 | mr_flea | I've been considering updating the BIOS to see if it still happens... |
| 17:30.15 | mr_flea | jelly: http://rafb.net/p/Ra1EGk56.html |
| 17:30.40 | jelly | heh, all right then |
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| 17:31.10 | jelly | well, if you don't use usb at all, rmmod it and blacklist the relevant modules :-) |
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| 17:31.42 | mr_flea | Oh, then it won't even touch that IRQ? |
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| 17:32.10 | dutchfish | another possibility is that some broken biosses in legacy mode have quircks (irq) |
| 17:32.10 | jelly | one would hope so |
| 17:33.01 | jetscreamer | !info amsn |
| 17:33.24 | ignotus | jetscreamer: thanks, I see amsn and kopete supports webcam chat |
| 17:33.29 | jetscreamer | yeah if there's a bios update i always do it |
| 17:33.42 | jetscreamer | ignotus: np, glad i was right |
| 17:33.50 | jetscreamer | !you're slow |
| 17:33.50 | dpkg | No, I'm not slow, I'm just overworked, underpaid, underappreciated and much maligned. Now STOP NAGGING ME!!1! |
| 17:33.53 | dpkg | amsn: (An MSN messenger written in Tcl), section x11, is optional. Version: 0.97-3 (sid), Packaged size: 248 kB, Installed size: 672 kB |
| 17:33.58 | wols_ | jetscreamer: no |
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| 17:34.27 | nameless` | hi |
| 17:34.31 | jetscreamer | ok, no what |
| 17:34.36 | jetscreamer | or which |
| 17:34.40 | wols_ | you don't always update the BIOS |
| 17:34.44 | nameless` | which file assign an icon for an extension ? |
| 17:34.46 | jetscreamer | ah |
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| 17:35.18 | jetscreamer | i should have put [b] I [/b] |
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| 17:35.54 | jetscreamer | i wanna say mimetypes but i do not know |
| 17:36.18 | themill | nameless`: /usr/share/mimelnk/<mimetype>.desktop ; you can have your own copies of these in your ~/.local to override these settings. |
| 17:36.34 | nameless` | thanks |
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| 17:37.41 | rwaite | i wonder if its worth it to setup postfix on my own or just pay for an email svc |
| 17:38.07 | valdyn | rwaite: how would we know that? |
| 17:38.13 | themill | rwaite: google mail for your own domain works well, modulo everything going through google. |
| 17:38.28 | rwaite | themill: that's what i have now, but the imap is kinda klunky |
| 17:38.47 | rwaite | valdyn: perhaps someone here has experience and knows if its a pita or not? |
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| 17:39.01 | Bladesman | Hi. Gonna do a scratch Lenny install when it goes stable, and have a couple questions about the /boot partition. Should it or / be the first partition, and shout /boot or / be marked as "bootable" or both? |
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| 17:39.04 | themill | rwaite: ahh. I only use it with fetchmail so it's not an issue. mrs themill uses it with icedove and seems happy enough. |
| 17:39.28 | valdyn | rwaite: its as hard as it is for the person doing it |
| 17:39.39 | valdyn | rwaite: that ranges from trivially easy to impossibly hard |
| 17:39.47 | rwaite | :) is it just me or sometimes in icedove does it take a looong time to load a message from imap? |
| 17:40.06 | rwaite | valdyn: 1-10 on unix admin skills i'd rate myself an 8? |
| 17:40.10 | smacnay | is there an app that stitches two images together to make a panorama? |
| 17:40.22 | rwaite | gimp might do it |
| 17:40.37 | valdyn | rwaite: setting up a mailserver to run shouldnt be hard for you |
| 17:41.12 | dutchfish | !hugin |
| 17:41.13 | dpkg | it has been said that hugin is a GUI for panorama tools - there's no offical .deb yet. See http://hugin.sourceforge.net/. |
| 17:41.26 | Bladesman | dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config should do it. |
| 17:41.33 | rwaite | valdyn: okay cool. i've just never done it and i'm not in the mood for a pandora's box situation |
| 17:41.40 | dutchfish | !info hugin lenny |
| 17:41.54 | ootput | who is the default owner of /var/www ? |
| 17:42.09 | n3kl | www-data |
| 17:42.16 | ootput | both owner and group? |
| 17:42.21 | n3kl | ootput: sorry, root:root |
| 17:42.24 | valdyn | n3kl: no |
| 17:42.26 | ootput | n3kl: is that a recursive own? |
| 17:42.28 | valdyn | n3kl: yes |
| 17:42.37 | themill | smacnay: hugin is excellent, use autopano-sift to automate some of the control point finding. |
| 17:42.38 | valdyn | ootput: whats a recursive own_ |
| 17:42.40 | valdyn | ootput: whats a recursive own? |
| 17:42.53 | n3kl | ootput: 755 root:root |
| 17:43.00 | ootput | valdyn: everything beneath it |
| 17:43.10 | valdyn | ootput: files have the permissions that you give them |
| 17:43.12 | n3kl | ootput: its up to you |
| 17:43.30 | valdyn | ootput: theres nothing like "recursive own" |
| 17:43.31 | n3kl | I prefer to o-rwx and chown www-data |
| 17:43.38 | valdyn | geez |
| 17:43.48 | Bladesman | I have /var/www as being owned by root:root at 755 on permissions |
| 17:43.54 | valdyn | n3kl: thats a security hole you cant recommend generally |
| 17:44.21 | n3kl | valdyn: sorry chown :www-data |
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| 17:44.56 | smacnay | themill, can the ubuntu package be installed on Deb or should I build from source (hugin)? |
| 17:45.36 | jeward | When I try to update mysql-common, it hangs on this process: root 9898 9897 2 10:21 pts/0 00:00:38 find -name *.ISM |
| 17:45.40 | dutchfish | http://packages.debian.org/lenny/hugin |
| 17:45.45 | jeward | How can I get it to upgrade? |
| 17:46.29 | dutchfish | hugin is also in etch (dpkg was wrong this time) |
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| 17:47.24 | Bladesman | Go, go, Gadget Combat Boot!!! |
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| 17:48.12 | Bladesman | (Guess that alias is already taken.) |
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| 17:50.59 | ootput | thanks guys. The reason I asked was because I'd like cgi functionality in lighttpd, but for the life of me, can't get it enabled. I created the required symlink in the config directory, but I keep getting 404 error messages when accessing cgi-bin/~blah. lighttpd logs does not show anything |
| 17:51.28 | ootput | (/etc/init.d/lighttpd force-reload issued) |
| 17:51.41 | twobitsprite | I can't get grub to work... I have "root (hd0,3)" and "kernel /boot/newinstall/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda3" but it complains that it can't find the drive when I boot |
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| 17:52.18 | n3kl | twobitsprite: do it manually. Chances are that you are specifying the wrong place for the kernel |
| 17:52.30 | mr_flea | Wow, that's not good. IRQ 169 (ethernet) was just disabled. |
| 17:52.33 | twobitsprite | n3kl: what do you mean manually? |
| 17:52.44 | macsim | somebody here allready build an openvpn server on a xen domU ? |
| 17:52.46 | n3kl | twobitsprite: boot your system and in teh grub prompt, type c |
| 17:52.59 | twobitsprite | just "c"? |
| 17:53.01 | graytron | twobitsprite: have you checked into groot grub config item? |
| 17:53.03 | n3kl | macsim: not in zen |
| 17:53.12 | twobitsprite | graytron: I'm not sure what that is |
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| 17:53.41 | macsim | n3kl, ok |
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| 17:53.56 | ootput | twobitsprite: |
| 17:54.04 | dutchfish | macsim, ask your real question please |
| 17:54.11 | graytron | twobitsprite: debian installation failed for me because groot in /etc/boot/menu.lst was set up incorrectly by debian installer and i had to manually change it from "groot=(hd2,0)" to "groot=(hd0,0)" |
| 17:54.12 | ootput | ^ignore :) |
| 17:54.23 | themill | smacnay: hugin is in debian already |
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| 17:54.24 | graytron | twobitsprite: well, installation of grub anyway |
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| 17:54.38 | LetsGo67 | How do I fix error "cannot handle file 'libstdc++.so.6' with TLS data" in BasicLinux? |
| 17:54.42 | twobitsprite | graytron: is it supposed to be pointing to the partition that has /boot/grub? |
| 17:55.19 | smacnay | themill, hehe - I assumed it wasn't - sorry and thanks |
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| 17:55.41 | Bladesman | That's why I prefer lilo. |
| 17:55.44 | macsim | dutchfish, I just want to know if someone else allready build a vpn from a domU (I did one, but I have some strange issues) |
| 17:55.46 | dutchfish | themill, how can i alter the factoid about hugin? |
| 17:55.56 | simonrvn | LetsGo67: you get a debian install iso, burn it, and install that, then come back and ask that again. |
| 17:56.20 | dutchfish | macsim, i did so what is your real question? |
| 17:56.21 | graytron | twobitsprite: i don't remember exactly, but if your groot is different from hd0, then maybe its not correct |
| 17:56.37 | LetsGo67 | simonrvn: How do I fix error "cannot handle file 'libstdc++.so.6' with TLS data" in BasicLinux? |
| 17:56.54 | simonrvn | LetsGo67: you get a debian install iso, burn it, and install that, then come back and ask that again. |
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| 17:57.28 | LetsGo67 | simonrvn: I don't want debian. |
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| 17:57.36 | jeward | I think I've found aa bug in the mysql-common package upgrade. Can someone help me? |
| 17:57.40 | macsim | dutchfish, I'm able (if I force the route) to ping my client network from the server, but my client can't ping my server lan, even if I push the route or add it by the hand ( It's an openvpn on a xen with debian so I'm not sure where I can ask for help ;)) |
| 17:57.46 | De_Mon | LetsGo67 i'm confused why are you in #debian then? |
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| 17:57.52 | simonrvn | LetsGo67: you're in the wrong channel |
| 17:57.57 | twobitsprite | graytron: I don't have a groot set |
| 17:58.05 | twobitsprite | graytron: the example didn't have one either |
| 17:58.42 | smacnay | LetsGo67, go to channel #linux or something. |
| 17:58.48 | simonrvn | jeward: check BTS, if not there, file a bug |
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| 17:58.56 | simonrvn | ##linux IIRC |
| 17:58.59 | graytron | twobitsprite: your menu.lst doesn't mention groot? |
| 17:59.01 | dutchfish | macsim, latest xen on etch? |
| 17:59.06 | twobitsprite | graytron: nope |
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| 17:59.16 | grml | hello all |
| 17:59.32 | twobitsprite | graytron: the docs on their website don't seem to mention it either |
| 17:59.38 | grml | I am having serious problems with my debian filesystem. |
| 17:59.39 | dutchfish | macsim, routed or bridge setup? |
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| 17:59.56 | grml | My debian system won't boot, grub error 17, apparent sector errors. |
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| 18:00.31 | grml | Someone here suggested I use grml. Well now I'm in GRML... does anyone know what utilities I need to use to rescue/troubleshoot this hard drive or get my files off it? |
| 18:00.33 | cr3 | hi what is the difference between 2.6.*-686 and 2.6.*-486 kernel? |
| 18:00.39 | Lagbolt | grml got a live cd or rescue? |
| 18:00.47 | grml | live cd |
| 18:00.57 | macsim | dutchfish, xen 3.0-3.1, debian stable, routed |
| 18:01.03 | Bladesman | grml: man fsck |
| 18:01.13 | graytron | twobitsprite: its debian specific afaik |
| 18:01.14 | themill | dutchfish: "dpkg: no, hugin is (what you want it to be now)" is the easiest way to make big changes. |
| 18:01.26 | Lagbolt | grml, can you mount the drive from live cd? fsck |
| 18:01.34 | grml | fsck was what was not getting past the drive problems in the first place |
| 18:01.48 | grml | ok... I'll try and tell you what happens. |
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| 18:02.21 | macsim | dutchfish, server: http://pastebin.org/51840 client: http://pastebin.org/51842 connection logs: http://pastebin.org/51844 |
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| 18:02.43 | n3kl | Anyone know how dificult it is to grow xen disks? I have them stored in LVM, so I should just be able to extend the lvm, and then extend the ext3, right? |
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| 18:03.04 | twobitsprite | graytron: ahh, I see... I don't think that matters because I'm not using update-grub to manage my menu right now |
| 18:03.05 | dutchfish | macsim, the most likely case is the openvpn setup itself, and dhcp options wrongly in its scope or iptables within the dom-U not setup correctly |
| 18:03.10 | talexb | Can someone remind me what the name of the utility is that gets rid of files that older than a certain age? I can't think what it's called. |
| 18:03.18 | Lagbolt | n3kl, yeah, growing an lvm is pretty easy. there is an lvm howto with examples if you google it |
| 18:03.35 | macsim | dutchfish, I shutdown the firewall, and put the ip_forword on |
| 18:03.47 | graytron | twobitsprite: you're probably right :) |
| 18:03.57 | et | the hardest step on growing a lvm is getting the seeds |
| 18:03.59 | dutchfish | macsim, yes, just to exclude that one if its the case |
| 18:04.07 | Lagbolt | n3kl, http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/ |
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| 18:04.19 | macsim | dutchfish, server lan is 192.168.1.0/24, client 192.168.2.0/24, vpn is 192.168.4.0/24 |
| 18:04.47 | grml | fsck just sits there... it didn't do anything... what options should I use? |
| 18:04.56 | Lagbolt | sits? |
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| 18:05.06 | macsim | dutchfish, if I put the route on server net 192.168.2.0 gw 192.168.4.1, I'm able to ping 192.168.2.15 (how is my computer), but not in the other way |
| 18:05.15 | Lagbolt | grml sits there and does nothing? no output at all? |
| 18:05.21 | Lagbolt | grml, any messages in dmesg? |
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| 18:05.29 | dutchfish | macsim, line 33 http://pastebin.org/51844 looks wrong |
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| 18:05.56 | dutchfish | macsim, triple check route tables |
| 18:05.56 | macsim | dutchfish, why ? this line come form the push on server conf file |
| 18:06.30 | macsim | dutchfish, sorry I don't get what you mean |
| 18:06.50 | dutchfish | macsim, you said that you can ping one direction right? |
| 18:07.03 | grml | lagbolt: lots of errors... seekcomplete errors, uncorrectable errors... I'm not sure how to copy something from X-term to show you. |
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| 18:07.07 | macsim | dutchfish, server to client (but I have to add the root manually) |
| 18:07.07 | dutchfish | macsim, and excluded the firewall rules |
| 18:07.14 | macsim | dutchfish, yes |
| 18:07.29 | Lagbolt | grml, those errors are in dmesg? is it ide or sata drive? |
| 18:07.33 | pozic | How can I specify a standard printer for lpr to use? |
| 18:07.42 | grml | lagbolt: yes, in dmesg... ide |
| 18:08.02 | ootput | any of you know the lighthttpd equivalent of apache's redirectmatch rule? |
| 18:08.05 | cr3 | hi, why the VGA modes from 2.6.*-486 kernel don't work in 2.6*686? how to generate table with modes on *686? to write entries in GRUB's menu.lst? halphalp |
| 18:08.08 | Lagbolt | grml sometimes if you turn off dma you can recover data from a failing drive, use hdparm. i just did that for a friend a couple weeks ago |
| 18:08.16 | dutchfish | macsim, can you ping the default gateway (virtual net)? |
| 18:08.26 | macsim | dutchfish, yes both way |
| 18:08.28 | De_Mon | talexb, I think you're looking for find -maxage (or something like that) |
| 18:08.39 | macsim | dutchfish, server and client can ping 192.168.4.1 |
| 18:08.41 | grml | lagbolt: please tell me what to do... I'm no expert... step by step... |
| 18:08.42 | dutchfish | macsim, then its routing |
| 18:08.42 | Lagbolt | pozic, export PRINTER="printername" in .bashrc :) |
| 18:08.56 | macsim | dutchfish, I pastebin you my route |
| 18:08.58 | smacnay | themill, hmm, hugin can't be installed because hugin-bin and hugin-tools relies on libboost-thread1.33.1 which is a virtual package. |
| 18:09.05 | Bladesman | grml: fsck -t <type> -a <partition> |
| 18:09.15 | pozic | Lagbolt: and system wide? I thought there was also a configuration file for it. |
| 18:09.16 | dutchfish | macsim, check route tables |
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| 18:09.32 | macsim | dutchfish, I did seam ok |
| 18:09.41 | yuastnav | Hey guys, I kinda did this echo "/usr/lib/jvm/ia32-java-6-sun-1.6.0.06/ $1" > /usr/local/bin/javaws and now I'm getting that message: access denied (java.security.SecurityPermission.putProviderProperty.SunJCE) |
| 18:09.48 | yuastnav | What does that message want to tell me? |
| 18:09.49 | macsim | dutchfish, client route http://pastebin.org/51855 |
| 18:10.04 | Lagbolt | pozic, system wide eh, maybe /etc/bash.bashrc or set it in a startup script somewhere. not sure what the preferential method is |
| 18:10.13 | dutchfish | macsim, another catch: iptables in the dom-0 prevent from dom-U -> dom-U by default |
| 18:10.35 | Lagbolt | Bladesman, i think he is having more trouble, his fsck was not working and he was seeing errors in dmesg bout the drive |
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| 18:10.43 | grml | bladesman: what do I put down for type and partition? would partition be something like hda1 ? |
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| 18:10.49 | macsim | dutchfish, ok I shutdown dom0 iptables |
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| 18:11.03 | dutchfish | macsim, no dont |
| 18:11.06 | robd | Hey guys |
| 18:11.11 | Lagbolt | grml, you are on the live cd right? make sure the drive is unmounted when you run fsck right? |
| 18:11.16 | robd | Does anyone know of a good how to for setting up a syslog server? |
| 18:11.18 | dutchfish | macsim, a sec |
| 18:11.21 | macsim | dutchfish, ok |
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| 18:11.32 | robd | Right now I've got other machines sending events to a syslog server, but I need to learn how to filter things better |
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| 18:11.42 | grml | lagbolt: yes... I believe it is unmounted because that is the option I chose when booting grml live cd. |
| 18:11.50 | robd | i.e. get all my Cisco ASA logs *out* of /var/log/messages and into their own log file |
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| 18:12.09 | dutchfish | macsim, the route table is from the dom-U on the server right? |
| 18:12.12 | pozic | Lagbolt: do I need to do something special to specify a remote printer? |
| 18:12.13 | justin | robd: try syslog-ng |
| 18:12.14 | Lagbolt | grml, run "mount" and make sure |
| 18:12.28 | pozic | Lagbolt: "remote" as in on the LAN. |
| 18:12.41 | macsim | dutchfish, the route table I gave you is from my client |
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| 18:12.48 | Bladesman | Type is ext2, ext 3, etc. Partition is /dev/hd-whatever. You can add -s and the drive without specifying partitions ans serially check the whole drive. Just make sure nothing is mounted. |
| 18:12.50 | Lagbolt | pozic, no idea buddy, i would assume if your machine sees the remote printers then selecting by name works. i can select any printer on my network so i dont see why not |
| 18:12.58 | tview | Is there anyone here at all who has successfully got the nvidia-glx package working with debian lenny with the new 2.6.25 kernel? On reboot I just a black screen and the then "starting x failed" although the logs show no errors and the last line is "loading glx extension". It would be comforting to know someone out there has it working before I waste any more time on it. |
| 18:13.07 | pozic | Lagbolt: yes, I think so too. |
| 18:13.22 | grml | lagbolt: it does not appear that hda is mounted. |
| 18:13.30 | yuastnav | no one? |
| 18:13.38 | pozic | Lagbolt: right, it works. Thanks. |
| 18:13.44 | Bladesman | Runnin Etch. |
| 18:13.45 | macsim | dutchfish, here is the route from the domU http://pastebin.org/51858 |
| 18:14.01 | grml | lagbolt: I ran hdparm... what options? |
| 18:14.02 | cr3 | is it possible to view color in a pager? like in --->>>>>>> ls -lhS --color=yes|more |
| 18:14.03 | cr3 | ? |
| 18:14.05 | Lagbolt | tview, nvidia is not in lenny |
| 18:14.06 | macsim | dutchfish, I come back in 5minutes (excuse me for that) |
| 18:14.31 | tview | Lagbolt: no - you have to bring in the unstable repositories as documented on the debian forums. |
| 18:14.34 | Lagbolt | grml i believe for dma you want hdparm -d0 /dev/hda |
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| 18:14.43 | dutchfish | macsim, ok pm me then |
| 18:14.56 | Lagbolt | tview, yup thats how i did it and it works. just have to make sure to install the nvidia-kernel first |
| 18:15.22 | tview | Lagbolt: did you manually add nvidia to /etc/modules? |
| 18:15.39 | Lagbolt | tview, no , how did you install nvidia kern module? |
| 18:15.41 | grml | lagbolt: ok.. I did that... it just ran hdparm and did nothing. |
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| 18:15.54 | jetscreamer | tview: http://linux.hfds.com/files/n-i.txt if you want to try the nvidia installer (not supported by debian, try #nvidia) |
| 18:15.56 | tview | Lagbolt: which instructions did you follow? I followed the document m-a way. |
| 18:15.56 | Lagbolt | grml, all that does is turn off dma |
| 18:16.07 | grml | lagbolt: oh... ok... now what? |
| 18:16.10 | jetscreamer | !nvidia |
| 18:16.10 | dpkg | To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. If you've done it before, ask me about <nvidia one-liner> for a reminder. or If using a later release than Etch, ask me about <nvidia_post_etch> |
| 18:16.11 | dutchfish | macsim, http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-users/2006-08/msg00348.html |
| 18:16.12 | Lagbolt | grml, try fsck now see if less errors |
| 18:16.22 | tview | Lagbolt: could you check your /etc/modules for me to be sure its not in there. |
| 18:16.48 | Lagbolt | tview, its not in there buddy. i just did "m-a a-i nvidia" and apt-get install nvidia-glx |
| 18:17.01 | grml | lagbolt: ok... well I did fsck, and then dmesg... same errors. (I do dmesg to check for the output of fsck, right?) |
| 18:17.09 | tview | jetscreamer: I do not want to try the nvidia installer since that does not work either. The 2.6.25 kernel has xen compiled in and the installer wont work anyway. It also break "the debian way". |
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| 18:17.18 | tview | Lagbolt: cheers. |
| 18:17.22 | Lagbolt | grml, dmesg is not output of fsck |
| 18:17.40 | Lagbolt | anyone know that pastebin pipe thing? can someone tell grml about it so he can paste from term |
| 18:17.45 | tview | Can someone tell me how the nvidia module is loaded then if its not in /etc/modules? |
| 18:17.47 | grml | lagbolt: well fsck didn't give me any output to the terminal... what do I do? |
| 18:18.01 | macsim | dutchfish, back, sorry for that |
| 18:18.07 | macsim | I watch your link |
| 18:18.14 | grml | lagbolt: pastebin is fine, but I'm not sure how to copy text out of x-term. |
| 18:18.17 | wols_ | tview: kernel module loader |
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| 18:18.36 | tview | wols_: and where does it get the list of what it must load? |
| 18:18.42 | Lagbolt | grml, from an xterm? highlight and middle click into where you want to paste |
| 18:18.51 | wols_ | modconf and the like |
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| 18:18.57 | wols_ | its automatic |
| 18:19.02 | macsim | dutchfish, in my case, the domU is the server not the client |
| 18:19.03 | tview | *groan* |
| 18:19.07 | wols_ | tview: why do you care? |
| 18:19.16 | wols_ | !wayttd tview |
| 18:19.17 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, tview? |
| 18:19.17 | Bladesman | grml: /dev/hda is the master drive attached to the IDE0 cable (first). /dev/hdb is the slave drive on IDE0, etc. You may have to open the puter and look at the motherboard/HDD controller card markings. (another reason why I despise grub) |
| 18:19.19 | Lagbolt | tview, can you start at the beginning, what have you done up to now that is not working |
| 18:19.32 | Lagbolt | tview, can you load the kernel modules and see it with lsmod? |
| 18:19.33 | dutchfish | macsim, i bet my head its a routing problem either dom-0 or dom-U |
| 18:19.35 | macsim | dutchfish, I simple route add -net 192.168.2.0 netmask 255.255.255 gw 192.168.4.1 and I'm able to join the client network |
| 18:19.40 | tview | wols_: I care because yesterday in here I was told to add the nvidia module to /etc/modules. When I asked why I was told "because I told you do". |
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| 18:19.58 | wols_ | and whoever told you that was right |
| 18:20.06 | dutchfish | macsim, the client is debian etch? |
| 18:20.09 | lobak | hello..does anyone know why my iceweasel cannot view/read file .c from browser...when i click on the links to file extension .c, it will show the download popup instead of showing the source code from the iceweasel |
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| 18:20.23 | macsim | dutchfish, the client is ubuntu (shame on me ;)) my server is debian |
| 18:20.25 | Bladesman | grml: Can you take a look at all at /etc/fstab? |
| 18:20.25 | dutchfish | macsim, not a VM? |
| 18:20.28 | wols_ | lobak: apache setting |
| 18:20.33 | macsim | dutchfish, not a vm |
| 18:20.43 | tview | Lagbolt: I installed it the "proper" way using m-a i-a, but when I reboot the screen flicker and it aborts. if I rmmod nvidia and the modprobe it back in it says that its the correct (173) Nvidia module. |
| 18:21.05 | tview | wols_: if they are right then how come it works for Lagbolt without it being in /etc/modules? |
| 18:21.10 | wols_ | tview: when it flickers and all: pastebin THAT xorg.0.log |
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| 18:21.18 | dutchfish | macsim, i have no clue about ubuntu, but i used excatly the same setup with various clients win, mac, debian with no problem at all |
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| 18:21.24 | Lagbolt | tview, sounds like problem with glx vs kern module |
| 18:21.34 | Lagbolt | tview, pastebin |
| 18:21.40 | macsim | dutchfish, I will reboot on my deb to check this |
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| 18:21.52 | macsim | dutchfish, thanks a lot for you help |
| 18:21.53 | lobak | wols_: i dont think it is apache setting, because any website that have .c cannot be read/view from the website, it needed me to download first and open it using text editor |
| 18:21.55 | grml | bladesman: I disconnected my other drive...the only drive connected is the bad debian drive |
| 18:21.55 | dutchfish | macsim, but i had to tweak iptables in dom-0 and setup my routing correctly. dont do double nat! |
| 18:22.21 | wols_ | lobak: then check the mimetype |
| 18:22.22 | pozic | lobak: you can configure that. |
| 18:22.23 | macsim | dutchfish, you mean I sould disable ip_forward on dom0 ? |
| 18:22.24 | dutchfish | macsim, http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-users/2006-08/msg00348.html |
| 18:22.31 | grml | !pastebin |
| 18:22.32 | dpkg | Please don't paste anything into the channel; use a paste site instead, like: http://paste.lisp.org, http://rafb.net/paste/, http://pastebin.ca/, http://picpaste.com for pics. --- Also ask me: <pastebin pipe> |
| 18:22.34 | tview | wols, Lagbolt : will need to revert my xorg.conf and reboot to regenerate the log. Back soon. |
| 18:22.42 | dutchfish | macsim, gl |
| 18:22.50 | macsim | dutchfish, ? |
| 18:23.05 | dutchfish | macsim, read up the whole thread |
| 18:23.14 | macsim | dutchfish, ok |
| 18:23.18 | docmax | how can i mount/unmount in a samba share? |
| 18:23.35 | docmax | for example i have a share /mnt/HD |
| 18:23.42 | docmax | this share is empty |
| 18:23.49 | Bladesman | grml: It matters how it's plugged in. If the drive is set to "cable Select" and if it's plugged into the end of the cable, it's /dev/hda. /dev/hdb if it's plugged into the middle of the cable. |
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| 18:24.16 | docmax | when i mount on the server /dev/xy to /mnt/HD... /mnt/HD remains empty on the client |
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| 18:24.40 | grml | lagbolt: http://pastebin.ca/1073597 |
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| 18:24.49 | grml | bladesman: http://pastebin.ca/1073597 |
| 18:24.49 | Bladesman | grml: Most drives come jumpered for cable select. |
| 18:25.42 | Lagbolt | grml, yeah looks like hardware. hda is the drive so you might be able to recover by turning off dma. i have done it on 2 drives that it worked on but had another it did not |
| 18:25.47 | grml | bladesman: I don't know what you mean by taking a look at /etc/fstab... nothing on the hard drive is accessible... live cd only |
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| 18:26.21 | grml | bladesman: cableselect is not active... it's the only drive plugged into the ide cable and it is set to be master |
| 18:26.21 | Lagbolt | grml do you have another drive you can move data you want to recover to? |
| 18:26.31 | grml | bladesman: it's hda for sure |
| 18:26.38 | Bladesman | grml: Sorry. Blind and can't access it thru links2. |
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| 18:27.12 | grml | lagbolt: didn't we already turn off dma? repeat the dma shutoff instructions again, please just to make sure. |
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| 18:27.55 | grml | lagbolt: yes... I have a brand new identical drive... that's not the problem... it's getting access to the data on the bad drive. |
| 18:28.11 | Lagbolt | grml, if you do "hdparm /dev/hda" it should list some settings, see if dma is one of them, also is this the only ide drive? what is your cdrom? hdc? hdd? |
| 18:28.39 | Bladesman | Hi. Planning out partitions for a scratch Lenny install when it goes stable, and I have a couple questions regarding the /boot partition. Should /boot or / be the first partition of the drive, and which partition should be marked with the "bootable" flag, or both? |
| 18:28.43 | grml | bladesman: ok... you mean you're visually impaired? |
| 18:29.05 | Bladesman | Blind as a bat with laryngitis. |
| 18:29.18 | Lagbolt | Bladesman, i dont think you need to mark any bootable for linux. |
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| 18:29.42 | Lagbolt | Bladesman, none of mine are. i think that is for winblows |
| 18:30.04 | Bladesman | Just write everything to the MBR then? Okay. |
| 18:30.08 | Lagbolt | grml, ok is the drive installed and ready to use? |
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| 18:30.31 | Lagbolt | grml, you will want it there so if you do gain access to the damaged drive you can copy right away |
| 18:30.47 | Bladesman | Was gonna have a single partition set aside for a backup copy of Debian, for emergencies. |
| 18:30.47 | tview | Lagbolt, wols_ : http://pastebin.com/m5bf54f90 |
| 18:30.59 | Lagbolt | Bladesman, everything to mbr? |
| 18:31.11 | tview | I know of the type1 error but the same happens even I remove that load. This is the default nvidia-xconfig load. |
| 18:31.15 | Bladesman | Alright. Thanks. |
| 18:31.25 | grml | lagbolt: http://pastebin.ca/1073607 |
| 18:31.32 | JyZyXEL | how nice i broke a 300GB partition |
| 18:31.42 | JyZyXEL | now all the filenames are gone |
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| 18:32.02 | Lagbolt | grml, ok dma is off. can you mount the drive at all? |
| 18:32.23 | grml | lagbolt: dma doesn't seem to be one of the things showing up on hdparm |
| 18:32.47 | Lagbolt | grml it is in your pastebin using_dma = 0 off |
| 18:33.08 | grml | lagbolt: I'm not sure what my designation for the cd rom drive is... is that important? I know the hard drive is hda |
| 18:33.24 | Lagbolt | grml, can you mount it? if you mount /dev/hda1 /mnt does that work at all? |
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| 18:34.00 | grml | lagbolt: you mean the new one? no.... only the bad one is installed right now... I want to know that I can access the files on it before even trying to copy the files off it. |
| 18:34.07 | tview | Lagbolt: btw, I took the nvidia out of /etc/modules. Made no difference. |
| 18:34.10 | Lagbolt | tview, and after you reload the nvidia module it works? |
| 18:34.23 | themill | smacnay: sounds like a packaging fubar. If you pastebin apt-cache policy for each of the packages you mentioned and the output of your aptitude run, someone else will look at it (I'm actually off cooking dinner...) |
| 18:34.29 | tview | Lagbolt: no. |
| 18:34.39 | Lagbolt | grml, you need to install the new one if you are going to recover the files. you have to have a place to move them. |
| 18:34.40 | twohundredthirty | hey all, my debian server appears to be missing the manpage for gcc. What package gives this? I already have manpages-dev installed. |
| 18:34.43 | tview | Lagbolt: did you mean from terminal rmmod and then modprobe it back in? |
| 18:34.45 | grml | lagbolt: well... I understand... I'm sure that can be arranged.... I think the main problem is just getting access to the files at all. If I can do that I'll connect the new drive right up. |
| 18:34.57 | Lagbolt | tview, dpkg -l | grep nvidia to a pastebin |
| 18:35.13 | grml | lagbolt: give me the instructions to mount the drive. |
| 18:35.15 | Lagbolt | grml yes, can you try mounting it and see if you can even browse the files at all |
| 18:35.16 | abrotman | twohundredthirty: they're in non-free |
| 18:35.28 | Lagbolt | grml, mount /dev/hda1 /mnt |
| 18:35.34 | twohundredthirty | abrotman: why? o_O |
| 18:35.40 | twohundredthirty | (and what do I do to get them?) |
| 18:35.49 | grml | lagbolt: dma is not mentioned in the hdparm |
| 18:36.02 | Lagbolt | grml, dude you pastebinned it and it was in there for sure |
| 18:36.07 | tview | Lagbolt: http://pastebin.com/m54c1a2d8 |
| 18:36.16 | Lagbolt | grml, using_dma = 0 (off) <--- from your pastebin |
| 18:36.20 | tview | I pinned the stuff to the unstable versions in synaptic. |
| 18:36.30 | abrotman | twohundredthirty: setup non-free sources |
| 18:36.31 | Lagbolt | grml, have you tried to mount? |
| 18:36.33 | abrotman | !info gcc-doc etch |
| 18:36.45 | abrotman | grrr |
| 18:36.47 | abrotman | hits dpkg |
| 18:36.54 | grml | lagbolt: hda1 didn't work... I just did plain hda, and it said that I must specify the filesystem type |
| 18:36.57 | jetscreamer | yeah gcc docs are nonfree eh |
| 18:37.05 | Lagbolt | tview, can you dpkg -P on the nvidia files that have "rc" as status. maybe you have some config files lingering around |
| 18:37.08 | abrotman | twohundredthirty: sorry .. they're in contrib |
| 18:37.11 | abrotman | http://packages.debian.org/etch/gcc-doc |
| 18:37.16 | twohundredthirty | contrib, that makes more sense |
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| 18:37.24 | abrotman | oh .. grr |
| 18:37.26 | abrotman | nope .. non-free |
| 18:37.28 | yEpLA | hi |
| 18:37.28 | tview | Lagbolt: will do. This is very informative. Thanks. |
| 18:37.35 | grml | lagbolt: when I know I can access the files... I'll install one and redo whatever we're doing now to gain access. |
| 18:37.35 | Bladesman | twohundredthirty: apt-cache search "gcc" | grep "doc" |
| 18:37.36 | abrotman | the metapackage depends on a non-free package with the actual bits |
| 18:37.41 | Lagbolt | grml, hda is the drive, you need a partition. what does ls /dev/hda* show |
| 18:37.50 | abrotman | twohundredthirty: so setup contrib and non-free and aptitude intall gcc-doc |
| 18:38.07 | twohundredthirty | ah, gcc-doc is it |
| 18:38.08 | jetscreamer | aptitude update first ? |
| 18:38.13 | Lagbolt | tview, make sure to reinstall the ones you want as well just to make sure everything is in place |
| 18:38.18 | twohundredthirty | well, looks like I already have contrib and nonfree |
| 18:38.26 | twohundredthirty | http://rafb.net/p/pyyLtj22.html |
| 18:38.34 | Lagbolt | tview, you have only debian nvidia right? did you install from nvidia site ever? |
| 18:38.45 | grml | lagbolt: hda, hda2, and hda5 |
| 18:38.59 | Lagbolt | grml, now we are getting somewhere |
| 18:39.20 | cr3 | THIS DPKG IS pretty smart |
| 18:39.32 | twohundredthirty | thanks all |
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| 18:39.33 | yEpLA | i have bought the msi wind i would like try to install linux on it but my network card is not detected what can i do ? |
| 18:39.54 | Lagbolt | grml, hda1 is not the partition, do you have e2fsprogs installed? |
| 18:40.03 | tview | Lagbolt: not on this machine no. At least I dont think so, was using nvidia-glx for a while now. |
| 18:40.08 | chasing`Sol | yEpLA, did u try to use ndiswrapper? |
| 18:40.08 | Lagbolt | grml, if so blkid /dev/hda2 and blkid /dev/hda5 |
| 18:40.17 | Lagbolt | should tell you the filesystem of each |
| 18:40.17 | ootput | what does '$' signify in regular expression? |
| 18:40.35 | grml | lagbolt: well i typed that into the terminal and nothing came up... I guess I don't have e2fsprogs instaled |
| 18:40.54 | yEpLA | chasing`Sol, the problem it's that i need the network before to do installation |
| 18:40.55 | Lagbolt | tview, also look in /etc/modprobe.d for nvidia files that may have been put there. maybe mv them elsewhere. |
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| 18:41.02 | th0ger | ootput: end of line |
| 18:41.10 | Lagbolt | grml, apt-get install e2fsprogs |
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| 18:41.32 | ootput | th0ger: oh right. like vim |
| 18:41.47 | grml | blkid on hda2 returned nothing, blkid on hda5 only said type="swap" |
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| 18:41.51 | balasyum | hi |
| 18:41.58 | chasing`Sol | yEpLA, so you are performing an installation over the internet, so u want the nic card to be up? |
| 18:42.00 | balasyum | how long is mcedit unavailable in deb repos? |
| 18:42.11 | tview | Lagbolt: there is one from june last year called nvidia-kernel-nkc |
| 18:42.17 | tview | any ideas what that might be? |
| 18:42.36 | grml | lagbolt: got the sprogs |
| 18:42.43 | Lagbolt | tview, yeah i have that file as well, not sure it is needed anymore but it is there. was put there in 2007 lol |
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| 18:43.16 | tview | So any other ideas? |
| 18:43.16 | yEpLA_ | soory connection problem |
| 18:43.20 | chasing`Sol | yEpLA, so you are performing an installation over the internet, so u want the nic card to be up? |
| 18:43.21 | grml | lagbolt: that's strange... when I type e2fsprogs into the terminal, it says command not found |
| 18:43.23 | balasyum | or... how can I make it my default editor? |
| 18:43.33 | yEpLA_ | chasing`Sol, yes |
| 18:43.34 | balasyum | because mcedit is a symlink to mc |
| 18:43.35 | Bladesman | Sometimes I love never having to turn on the monitor... |
| 18:43.44 | balasyum | I can't do it in the /etc/alternatives |
| 18:43.58 | yEpLA_ | because on this laptop no dvd drive |
| 18:44.00 | Lagbolt | tview, just saying get rid of all your nvidia packages, purge them and maybe move that file elsewhere and reinstall nvidia and see if that helps |
| 18:44.25 | tview | Lagbolt: yeah, tried all that already. Must be soemthing else lying around :-( |
| 18:44.31 | yEpLA_ | i have try to install testing but it s impossible actually :( |
| 18:44.39 | yEpLA_ | (usb install) |
| 18:44.40 | Lagbolt | tview hmm not sure. using 25 kernel right? |
| 18:44.47 | tview | yes |
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| 18:45.00 | Lagbolt | grml, why did you type that? |
| 18:45.00 | chasing`Sol | yEpLA, wuts the nic card? |
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| 18:45.03 | Lagbolt | grml that is the name of the package :( |
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| 18:45.10 | soulchild | Hi all, is there a package to graphically configure my external monitor ? |
| 18:45.13 | Bladesman | waves... |
| 18:45.14 | yEpLA_ | chasing`Sol, wait i look |
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| 18:45.18 | Bladesman | Keep well, all. |
| 18:45.27 | soulchild | *using gnome |
| 18:45.59 | Lagbolt | grml, do this please "fdisk -l /dev/hda" and pastebin the output |
| 18:46.01 | tview | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:46.25 | yEpLA_ | when i start the network boot |
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| 18:46.55 | yEpLA_ | it s write that is a RTL8101E/8102E |
| 18:48.01 | yEpLA_ | chasing`Sol, Realtek RTL8101E/8102E PCI-E Ethernet |
| 18:48.20 | grml | lagbolt: http://pastebin.ca/1073625 |
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| 18:49.06 | Lagbolt | grml, ok so hda1 is the partition you want. what happens with you "mount /dev/hda1 /mnt" |
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| 18:50.09 | grml | lagbolt: mount: special device /dev/hda1 does not exist |
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| 18:52.13 | Lagbolt | grml, so your partition table is ok but hda1 is hosed tho. not sure what i would do with that. i might try installing debian on my new drive, getting setup and then when i am ready to spend some time put the broken drive back in or in usb enclosure and see if i can get it to recognize the first partition |
| 18:52.14 | yEpLA_ | chasing`Sol, ??? |
| 18:52.16 | grml | lagbolt: a bit of background.... just yesterday evening I booted into debian... everything was fine... using gnome... except that the hd light had stayed on... then no programs would run |
| 18:52.27 | chasing`Sol | yEpLA, hold on |
| 18:52.48 | Lagbolt | grml, how old is the drive? those errors and the symptoms are a bad sign of hardware problem |
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| 18:52.58 | grml | lagbolt: so I shut down officially and rebooted... then the boot sequence showed problems with mounting the drive and said that I should do the fsck |
| 18:53.09 | bol_ | Hi! Anyone got at workaround for mouse side buttons that doesent work with lenny and evdev? |
| 18:53.17 | grml | lagbolt: fsck then asked a bunch of questions to which I said "yes" and then I rebooted agian.... |
| 18:53.27 | bol_ | Worked just fine in etch, but in lenny it's broken.. |
| 18:53.49 | yEpLA_ | ok |
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| 18:54.14 | Lagbolt | grml, well as of right now /dev/hda1 didnt show up in your ls. it is saying that the device doesnt exist. out of my realm of experience. i might read online a while to find someone with similar problem |
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| 18:54.35 | Lagbolt | but far as i know if device does not show up in /dev/ you are going to have a hard time fixing it |
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| 18:54.54 | Lagbolt | and by fixing i mean getting data off it. |
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| 18:58.06 | chasing`Sol | yEpLA, i think realtek cards have always been well supported by linux. |
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| 18:58.39 | chasing`Sol | it should be probed when the installer launch |
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| 18:59.46 | yEpLA_ | i have do an usb installation of linux with the lenny beta 2 |
| 18:59.54 | yEpLA_ | he doesn't find the driver |
| 19:00.03 | weechat_user | lagbolt: hmmm somehow the irc server disconnected me.... everything you may have typed to me in the last 2 minutes was lost, I'm sure |
| 19:00.28 | Lagbolt | weechat_user, grml ? |
| 19:00.33 | yEpLA_ | it say e if you see the driver for your card choose it |
| 19:00.42 | weechat_user | lagbolt: I guess so! |
| 19:01.14 | Lagbolt | weechat_user, basically said your drive is bosed beyond what i have messed with. hda1 doesnt show up in /dev, not sure how to procede. |
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| 19:01.43 | Lagbolt | weechat_user, try installing on new drive and then when you have time to try get broke drive to show up but without a device i dont know how to go about it |
| 19:01.58 | td123 | does anyone know why clisp is not in debian testing repos? |
| 19:02.01 | yEpLA_ | chasing`Sol, i have try with this debian-LennyBeta2-i386-businesscard |
| 19:02.10 | chasing`Sol | did it work? |
| 19:02.11 | n3kl | Is there a way that I can allow key login for ssh and not password for root only, and still allow key and password log in for everyont else? |
| 19:02.21 | yEpLA_ | it s possible that the driver not be in and in the netinstall i was ? |
| 19:02.33 | jelly-home | !tell td123 -about why is clisp not in testing |
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| 19:03.17 | chasing`Sol | which cd are u using to perform an installation? |
| 19:03.21 | td123 | ty jelly-home |
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| 19:04.05 | weechat_user | lagbolt: did you get my background stuff that I gave you a few minutes ago? Do you think somehow that hd light on meant that the drive was being accessed constantly (maybe from a debian fault) and that overheated the drive, causing it to tank?? |
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| 19:04.34 | Lagbolt | weechat_user, i think it is prob old drive and failed. i dont think debian caused it to die |
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| 19:05.23 | weechat_user | lagbolt: hmmmm.... it did occasionally show unmounting errors at shut down for the last few weeks... I didn't assume a hd problem... I guess I should have... right? |
| 19:05.28 | \amethyst | n3kl: PermitRootLogin without-password |
| 19:05.41 | \amethyst | n3kl: in the sshd_config |
| 19:05.42 | Lagbolt | weechat_user, drives die. i had a drive die after 8 months and i have had others that have been going for 5 years. sometimes you can catch them when they are going bad. maybe you should read about smartmontools |
| 19:05.45 | kantor | hi, I can't use the sr, scd drivers from the SCSI subsystem with my ATAPI dvd writer. I set the options ide-cd ignore=hdb in the /etc/modprobe.d/options file, the device is not loaded then, but it is not recognized by the sr, scd drivers either :( . I don't know how is this solved in Ubuntu |
| 19:06.10 | \amethyst | n3kl: there's also PermitRootLogin forced-commands-only |
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| 19:06.47 | weechat_user | lagbolt: could the drive have failed without the catastrophic grinding noises old timers have told me about... I mean basically just silently go bad? |
| 19:06.49 | tview | Lagbolt: success. I removed that file, purged all nvidia again, but time also xserver/xorg, removed the auto resolution detection using nvidia settings and rebooted and ti now works! Thanks for your time. I also removed it from etc&modules ..... and now to reconfigure X for mz kezboard>( |
| 19:06.55 | yEpLA_ | chasing`Sol, debian-LennyBeta2-i386-businesscard |
| 19:07.12 | Lagbolt | tview, yay! cant have that junk lingering around |
| 19:07.14 | yEpLA_ | now i try debian-LennyBeta2-i386-netinstall |
| 19:07.14 | chasing`Sol | yEpLA_, which cd are u using to perform an installation? |
| 19:07.23 | yEpLA_ | chasing`Sol, tyhis one debian-LennyBeta2-i386-businesscard |
| 19:07.29 | tview | what a relief! Ive been at this for almost 2 dazs. Listened to wrong advice. |
| 19:07.41 | tview | thanks agin. cza |
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| 19:07.58 | Lagbolt | weechat_user, yes! we have drives that record TV and sometimes they die very silently. dma seems to go bad sometimes as i mentioned and it makes no noise |
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| 19:08.19 | yEpLA_ | do you thing in netinstall cd there are more driver than buisnesscard ? chasing`Sol |
| 19:08.24 | Lagbolt | weechat_user, there are lots of things in a drive that dont make noise that can go bad. |
| 19:08.34 | chasing`Sol | yEpLA_, try using debian-40r3-i386-netinst |
| 19:08.37 | weechat_user | lagbolt: is 5 years considered "get a new drive time... just in case" ? |
| 19:09.03 | weechat_user | lagbolt: I guess I should have backed up more frequently. |
| 19:09.05 | yEpLA_ | chasing`Sol, it s impossible the usb file are broken |
| 19:09.06 | Lagbolt | weechat_user, i back my stuff up so i replace when a drive fails |
| 19:09.07 | shefqeti | weechat_user: depends really. my hd-s have always lasted more than 5 years |
| 19:09.25 | shefqeti | weechat_user: but I have a friends who had theirs die within 2 years |
| 19:09.26 | abrotman | i've got one that is 14 years old or so |
| 19:09.31 | abrotman | and yes it still works |
| 19:09.33 | chasing`Sol | yEpLA_, probably the nic's driver isn't in the media u are using |
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| 19:09.36 | weechat_user | shefqeti: hmmmm thanks for the info. |
| 19:09.37 | jelly-home | kantor: debian does not have ide-scsi module in their kernels |
| 19:09.52 | linkslice | weechat_user, if it seems like ti's about to fail maybe, my sun ultra 10 is still on it's original HD and runs like a champ |
| 19:10.00 | yEpLA_ | chasing`Sol, yes but for debian-40r3-i386-netinst the file are broken :( |
| 19:10.05 | Lagbolt | abrotman, 14!! wow nice! they dont make em like that anymore lol |
| 19:10.06 | weechat_user | lagbolt: so basically you're saying that once I make a new debian drive, you don't know how I could go about retrieving the files from this old drive? |
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| 19:10.24 | abrotman | Lagbolt: i'm sure they do .. but they're not consumer drives :) |
| 19:10.36 | Lagbolt | weechat_user, i might try putting it in usb enclosure, or back in my machine hoping for it to show up but without /dev/hda1 showing up i don tknow what you can do |
| 19:10.40 | chasing`Sol | yEpLA_, its working for me, i will notice u with the link |
| 19:10.44 | Lagbolt | abrotman, true |
| 19:10.55 | kantor | jelly-home, Ubuntu does not uses the ide-scsi driver to do that |
| 19:11.06 | shefqeti | weechat_user: can you insert it in a different machine ? |
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| 19:11.17 | weechat_user | lagbolt: do you know anyone here who may know more about how to recover the data from this drive? |
| 19:11.22 | jelly-home | kantor: if it's really "hdb", I have no idea. is it an intel chipset? |
| 19:11.27 | yEpLA_ | this is the .is file i speak about the file to put in usb card |
| 19:11.29 | kensuke | quit |
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| 19:11.30 | weechat_user | shefqeti: why would that make a difference? |
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| 19:11.49 | yEpLA_ | chasing`Sol, do you know that i mean ? |
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| 19:12.00 | shefqeti | weechat_user: because maybe there's smomething in the ide controller of the motherboard |
| 19:12.00 | Lagbolt | weechat_user, if no one has spoken up then i dont think so or they are not interested :) |
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| 19:12.07 | weechat_user | lagbolt: would a usb enclosre better facilitate drive recovery? |
| 19:12.12 | shefqeti | weechat_user: and it doesn't show up at all |
| 19:12.17 | Lagbolt | weechat_user, if it is critical you can always find a data recovery service |
| 19:12.24 | chasing`Sol | yEpLA_, explain more |
| 19:12.28 | weechat_user | lagbolt: super (sarchasm) |
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| 19:12.38 | kantor | jelly-home, no |
| 19:12.42 | sanmarcos | are there any servers for linux that support P-IMAP? |
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| 19:12.47 | yEpLA_ | file to boot on usb card |
| 19:12.56 | yEpLA_ | you must put the iso and boot.img |
| 19:12.58 | yEpLA_ | ... |
| 19:13.00 | Lagbolt | weechat_user, usb is no better, i think dma is off when using usb enclosure. just i dont like to keep putting drives in and out so i use usb. had some luck getting data off with it. just another option that is all |
| 19:13.14 | jelly-home | kantor: if it were intel, you could have tried adding combined_mode=libata libata.atapi_enabled=1 to the kernel command line |
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| 19:13.19 | weechat_user | lagbolt: do you know of a really low level utility that basically queries and diagnoses drive hardware? preferably with a boot cd or floppy/ |
| 19:13.20 | weechat_user | ? |
| 19:13.23 | Lagbolt | weechat_user, i dont give up easily so i try every tool and option at my disposal |
| 19:13.38 | chasing`Sol | yEpLA_, u are booting from usb card? |
| 19:13.44 | yEpLA_ | yess |
| 19:13.45 | Lagbolt | weechat_user, you can go to the website of the company that makes your drive and get a bootable cd or disk sometimes with utilities |
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| 19:13.54 | yEpLA_ | the laptop has no cd |
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| 19:14.29 | weechat_user | lagbolt: you don't know of anything in the linux community that does what I'm describing though, right? |
| 19:15.01 | jelly-home | kantor: the latter would supposedly make all the libata drivers claim your PATA interfaces, so if you had a hard disk on hda, it would become sdX as well (and maybe interfere with bootup process) |
| 19:15.11 | Lagbolt | yEpLA_, put debian installer on usb? |
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| 19:16.00 | Lagbolt | weechat_user, i have nothing more than what i have suggested, otherwise i would have made more suggestions |
| 19:16.03 | tudon | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:16.14 | kantor | jelly-home, I read the Linux 2.4 SCSI subsystem HOWTO and there states that to use the sr, scd SCSI drivers with an ATAPI cd device, you only need to use the de-cd ignore=hdd, and to load the sr, scd driver. I did exactly that but it's not working |
| 19:16.16 | yEpLA_ | i speak of this file : http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/d-i/images/daily/hd-media/ |
| 19:16.30 | kantor | jelly-home, yes, maybe your right, I must to try out that |
| 19:16.34 | jelly-home | kantor: you're not using a 2.4 kernel |
| 19:16.48 | kantor | no, I'm using a 2.6 series kernel |
| 19:16.50 | yEpLA_ | i have read that it s broken and when i start with this my laptop reboot after aply enter on install |
| 19:17.06 | shefqeti | weechat_user: try plugginf the drive to a different machine. As a secondary drive. Boot from that machine and see if your drive shows up. If it does, try to mount it |
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| 19:17.11 | jelly-home | kantor: so that documentation is outdated. |
| 19:17.18 | shefqeti | plugging* |
| 19:17.23 | Lagbolt | yEpLA_, i came in late. are you trying to install debian to usb media? put installer on usb media? |
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| 19:17.32 | yEpLA_ | Lagbolt, yes |
| 19:17.46 | Lagbolt | yEpLA_, which? install or installer :) |
| 19:17.47 | yEpLA_ | but the unstable version not the lenny |
| 19:18.02 | yEpLA_ | sid |
| 19:18.22 | Lagbolt | i understand what sid is, but you want installer? or install bootable OS to usb |
| 19:18.33 | Lagbolt | does anyone read all before a ? |
| 19:18.52 | yEpLA_ | i want install like a cd but with usb |
| 19:19.12 | weechat_user | shefqueti: well that's basically what we're doing now... except with a live cd |
| 19:19.12 | Lagbolt | yEpLA_, so you want to make a "bootable SID usb key installer"? |
| 19:19.20 | yEpLA_ | yep |
| 19:19.21 | jelly-home | kantor: also, your ubuntu might have used a newer kernel (like 2.6.24) that had more drivers converted to libata (and presenting scsi devices) |
| 19:19.24 | weechat_user | shefqueti: it's not mounting. |
| 19:19.43 | shefqeti | weechat_user: is the machine different? I'd think you're trying at the same machine |
| 19:19.46 | kantor | yes, I think that is the explanation |
| 19:19.52 | Lagbolt | yEpLA_, dont know if there are images for sid out there for this. why not use lenny? |
| 19:20.06 | weechat_user | shefqueti: it's the same machine... but what difference does that make? there's nothing wrong with the machine |
| 19:20.10 | yEpLA_ | because i have a problem of driver |
| 19:20.38 | yEpLA_ | it doesn't find my network card difficult to do an install ^^ |
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| 19:20.55 | shefqeti | weechat_user: there could be smomething wrong with the ide controller at the motherboard and maybe it's not a disk problem at all |
| 19:21.13 | weechat_user | shefqueti: no... that's not it, because my windows 2000 drive boots and runs fine. |
| 19:21.15 | Lagbolt | yEpLA_, there is one here http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?pid=47421 <-- scroll down and look for it |
| 19:21.20 | Lagbolt | yEpLA_, has instructions as well |
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| 19:21.33 | shefqeti | weechat_user: a different hd ? this win2000 system ? |
| 19:21.43 | shefqeti | or just different partition |
| 19:21.45 | yEpLA_ | i know the instruction the prblem is that file are broken ! |
| 19:21.46 | weechat_user | shefqueti: no... same brand and model drive |
| 19:21.56 | weechat_user | shefqueti: purchased at the same time too |
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| 19:22.21 | shefqeti | weechat_user: so you have 2 discs. one for lin and one for win, right ? |
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| 19:22.28 | Lagbolt | yEpLA_, so you downloaded a .img and dd it directly to the usb? |
| 19:22.30 | weechat_user | shefqueti: right |
| 19:22.36 | weechat_user | shefqeti: right |
| 19:22.50 | yEpLA_ | Lagbolt, no zcat .img > /usb |
| 19:22.50 | lenios2 | hey there, can i bother you? |
| 19:22.56 | shefqeti | weechat_user: and you boot how? With a menu somewhere or you change bios settings ? |
| 19:23.00 | weechat_user | shefqeti: sorry... I've been mispelling you're handle |
| 19:23.11 | shefqeti | weechat_user: lol. np |
| 19:23.27 | Gm4n | how do you add a network interface? It's listed in /etc/network/interfaces, but it's not appearing |
| 19:23.30 | lenios2 | it's about xandros on eeepc, but i don't know where to ask |
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| 19:23.36 | Lagbolt | yEpLA_, sure i guess that works. just suggesting you try what they do on this site. up to you tho. |
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| 19:23.46 | weechat_user | shefqeti: well... up until I've had this problem last night... the master drive was the linux drive and the windows was the slave... it was booting from the linux drive with grub and then I had a choice |
| 19:24.01 | shefqeti | weechat_user: i see |
| 19:24.24 | shefqeti | weechat_user: and how now you boot into 2000 ? |
| 19:24.38 | weechat_user | shefqeti: do you know of any low level drive utilities available on a live cd or floppy? |
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| 19:25.02 | shefqeti | weechat_user: check out for "Hiren bootcd |
| 19:25.02 | weechat_user | shefqeti: I would just choose the win2000 choice in grub. |
| 19:25.04 | shefqeti | weechat_user: check out for "Hiren bootcd" |
| 19:25.04 | biopyte | folks, recently i have problems creating pdf with OOo. Though the document looks fine with acrobat reader, it only prints empty boxes. system is lenny. |
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| 19:25.18 | biopyte | any idea? |
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| 19:25.54 | mancubis | hi |
| 19:25.56 | mancubis | ppl |
| 19:25.56 | shefqeti | weechat_user: it's a wonderful kit of several software to check and diag plenty of things |
| 19:26.15 | jiva | I'm running "apt-get remove <package> and after I press enter to the Y/n prompt, it's erroring out with "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg exited unexpectedly" is there some way to get more diagnostic info out of apt-get? |
| 19:26.35 | weechat_user | shefqeti: that's what they said about grml! it turns out to be mostly useless... I'm only using it to chat with you guys right now.. otherwise, no useful utils. |
| 19:26.51 | weechat_user | shefqeti: hopefully hiren will be better |
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| 19:27.14 | shefqeti | weechat_user: so you are saying that you can see the menu at bootime, you can boot into windows but not into linux, and the linux drive is master and windows drive is slave in your case, right ? |
| 19:27.59 | shefqeti | weechat_user: hiren bootcd will not be able to connect you online. It's only with utils. tons of them |
| 19:28.34 | weechat_user | shefqeti: no that's how it used to be when everything was working... now what happens is that grub gets stuck before the menu shows up. It just says "Grub" and then the version and all... then waits for a few seconds and says "error 17". No menu... I think the problem is grub can't mount the linux drive and gets stuck before it can display a menu. |
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| 19:29.09 | weechat_user | Lagbolt: well, thanks for trying to help. |
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| 19:29.53 | shefqeti | weechat_user: I see. But you are able to chose the win2000 in menu and it works ok |
| 19:29.54 | shefqeti | ? |
| 19:30.30 | Lagbolt | shefqeti, he cant get a grub menu . . .it is on hda1 |
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| 19:31.05 | Lagbolt | weechat_user, does your live cd come up with grub? can you hit esc or C to get to command line? |
| 19:31.11 | mancubis | Can somebody help with installing BCM43 drivers? http://paste.org/index.php?id=3334 |
| 19:31.12 | weechat_user | shefqeti: no... grub doesn't show the menu anymore... it just goes to error 17. So I disconnected the linux drive and booted into windows 2000, which worked fine. Now I disconnected the windows 2000 drive, and reconnected the bad linux drive and booted from the grml live cd. That's how I'm chatting with you now. |
| 19:31.28 | shefqeti | weechat_user: i really think you have to open the comp case and at least switch ide controllers |
| 19:31.37 | mancubis | I already installed "fwcutter" but still can't operate wireless controller =( |
| 19:31.41 | shefqeti | weechat_user: take away any cd roms you have |
| 19:31.55 | weechat_user | shefqeti: if windows2000 boots fine, what could be wrong with the controller? |
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| 19:32.29 | jiva | I'm running "apt-get remove <package> and after I press enter to the Y/n prompt, it's erroring out with "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg exited unexpectedly" is there some way to get more diagnostic info out of apt-get? |
| 19:32.46 | shefqeti | weechat_user: if you still see the same problems as now, maybe your linux hd is dying or dead. |
| 19:33.04 | DawnLight | I am setting up an automatic installation using preseed. I already have the preseed file pretty much set up and I have a script that should be run after the installation. Since I want it to be as hands-off as possible, I'd like the after-installation script to be run automatically from the preseed file. The option for that in preseed is 'd-i preseed/late_command string'. The script and other files will be available from an HTTP server so I am looking to run |
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| 19:33.18 | weechat_user | lagbolt: grml doesn't use grub... Why am I using grml... because someone in this chat room suggested it last night... grml is debian based but it's supposed to be specifically for recovery tools. I'm not using the debian live cd |
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| 19:33.40 | Lagbolt | jiva, what package? try dpkg -r packagename |
| 19:33.50 | weechat_user | lagbolt: grml is turning out to be a total dud... no good drive recovery utilities at all. |
| 19:33.58 | jiva | it's mailman currently, but has happened on several |
| 19:34.01 | jiva | I will try that, sec |
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| 19:34.17 | jiva | oh, now it's working... |
| 19:34.18 | shefqeti | weechat_user: you never know what could be wrong. if something electronic dies, that can be anywhere and as small as to cause trouble only at a the very conditions your hardware configs are and in otherways is fine |
| 19:34.23 | shefqeti | weechat_user: i have seen that happen |
| 19:34.24 | jiva | I wonder if maybe I'm running out of memory on the server |
| 19:34.29 | amphi | weechat_user: you might like the sysreccd.org iso - what tools are you looking for? |
| 19:35.11 | ShishKabab | Hello. I just installed Debian and switched to KDE. The volume buttons on my keyboard worked under GNOME, but they don't under KDE. What do I need to do so I can use them? |
| 19:35.12 | weechat_user | amphi: low level, mid level, and/or high level linux drive recovery tools |
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| 19:35.42 | weechat_user | shefqeti: understood.... thanks for trying |
| 19:35.43 | mordy | hello al |
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| 19:37.53 | weechat_user | amphi: well... I'm going to step away for lunch... I hope sysreccd.org does the job. |
| 19:37.57 | shefqeti | weechat_user: how is your hardware connected? in idebay1 you have linHD+WinHD and in idebay2 you have CD+DVD or anything else ? |
| 19:38.04 | mordy | wine gives me an error that that "lib32nss-mdns" is not installed - but i can't find it in the repositories - where can i get it? and is it safe? |
| 19:38.13 | DawnLight | yo, is anyone going to answer my long question? |
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| 19:38.32 | DawnLight | mordy: where did you get your wine? |
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| 19:38.41 | docmax | how can i identify the name of a pid number? |
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| 19:38.53 | mordy | dawnlight - apt-get |
| 19:38.54 | weechat_user | shefqeti: yes.. ide1 is hd1(linux) and hd2(win2000); ide2 is dvd/rw and a zip drive |
| 19:38.58 | jelly-home | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:39.04 | jelly-home | DawnLight: ^^ |
| 19:39.07 | mordy | i'm running a 86_64 system |
| 19:39.39 | mordy | i get my wine from the store. dry preferably ;) |
| 19:39.41 | DawnLight | mordy: there's a much more recent wine in backports |
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| 19:39.59 | mordy | DawnLight - i have backports in my repository as well |
| 19:40.07 | DawnLight | mordy: carmel mizrahi? |
| 19:40.21 | mordy | hehe dawn |
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| 19:40.31 | mordy | Yeqebi Golan, actually ;) |
| 19:40.36 | mordy | ei |
| 19:40.37 | DawnLight | mordy: well, choose that version |
| 19:40.43 | weechat_user | shefqeti: I'm going to step away for lunch... hopefully I'll find a better live recovery cd after lunch. |
| 19:40.46 | mordy | let me see what i have |
| 19:40.52 | mordy | it wouldn't give me that problem? |
| 19:41.08 | ArthurArchnix | There's this app I want to install and try out, but I'm not sure I trust the source. I'm considering installing it in a virtual machine then monitoring it that way. But I thought I'd ask if there's another way to do it that doesn't involve installing virtualbox and then setting up a virtual lenny machine. So... is there? Another / better / worse way to do this? |
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| 19:41.23 | shefqeti | weechat_user: you have to try swap idebay1 and idebay2 and see what happens |
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| 19:41.49 | weechat_user | shefqeti: ok... thanks... I'm going to go get something to eat now before I faint. |
| 19:41.55 | ArthurArchnix | I'm not the most technically savvy user either, so virtual machine is both easy and safe. |
| 19:41.57 | shefqeti | weechat_user: or better still, leave unconnected what now lies in idebay2, the cd and zipdrive |
| 19:42.07 | mordy | DawnLight - this is the backport version |
| 19:42.10 | weechat_user | shefqeti: ok |
| 19:42.27 | shefqeti | weechat_user: and see to boot the machine with the hd-s only but in the other idebay |
| 19:42.38 | weechat_user | shefqeti: ok |
| 19:42.44 | mordy | DawnLight - "1.0.0.1~bpo+1 (etch backports)" |
| 19:42.55 | mordy | bpo40+1* |
| 19:42.59 | shefqeti | weechat_user: if nothing new, you can easily return to the original wiring |
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| 19:44.16 | mordy | ahh... ata yisraeli - didn't know ;) |
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| 19:44.34 | DawnLight | mordy: ahm... there's a libnss-mdns package |
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| 19:44.50 | DawnLight | i don't know if that'll give you what you want but you can try |
| 19:45.04 | mordy | DawnLight, it says i have that package - but it specifically asks the libnss32-* package |
| 19:45.06 | DawnLight | i don't even know what that is, actually |
| 19:45.12 | TheGeralt | Hi, how can I enable colors in the console windows? I know how to enable color for grep or ls, but vim and emacs don't show any colors |
| 19:45.25 | Decepticon | !ndiswrapper |
| 19:45.26 | dpkg | i guess ndiswrapper is a way to wrap Windows drivers so that they can be used on Linux (x86 or x86-64 only). If there is a Linux driver for your card, first consider that instead; if there isn't, ask me about <ndiswrapper one-liner> to set up NDISwrapper. http://ndiswrapper.sf.net/ #ndiswrapper @ irc.freenode.net. |
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| 19:46.06 | abrotman | TheGeralt: in vim .. :syntax on |
| 19:46.12 | DawnLight | I am setting up an automatic installation using preseed. I already have the preseed file pretty much set up and I have a script that should be run after the installation. Since I want it to be as hands-off as possible, I'd like the after-installation script to be run automatically from the preseed file. The option for that in preseed is 'd-i preseed/late_command string'. The script and other files will be available from an HTTP server so I am looking to run |
| 19:46.25 | Decepticon | is this good for etch: aptitude install ndiswrapper-common build-essential module-assistant && m-a a-i ndiswrapper && echo ndiswrapper >> /etc/modules |
| 19:46.32 | TheGeralt | abrotman: can activate this flag globally by default? |
| 19:46.38 | abrotman | Decepticon: /msg dpkg ndiswrapper one-liner |
| 19:46.44 | Decepticon | abrotman that is the one liner |
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| 19:46.49 | abrotman | then use it |
| 19:46.56 | Lagbolt | lol |
| 19:47.00 | Decepticon | i will |
| 19:47.03 | abrotman | TheGeralt: i'd imagine there's a global VIM rc file |
| 19:47.13 | DawnLight | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:47.17 | Lagbolt | Decepticon, check this out https://launchpad.net/auto-ndiswrapprer |
| 19:47.23 | Decepticon | Lagbolt thats what i just saw |
| 19:47.28 | Decepticon | Lagbolt and thats why im iusntalling ndiswrapepr |
| 19:47.33 | Lagbolt | ah i see |
| 19:47.34 | TheGeralt | abrotman: thanks, I'll try |
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| 19:47.54 | Decepticon | Lagbolt any sucess on debian with auto-ndiswrapper? |
| 19:48.23 | Lagbolt | Decepticon, i was hoping you would tell me :) i just used my windows drivers right off my ntfs partition :) |
| 19:48.23 | \amethyst | DawnLight: something like chroot /target /bin/sh -c 'cd && wget http://box2/after-d-i.sh && chmod 755 after-d-i.sh && ./after-d-i.sh' |
| 19:48.30 | Decepticon | Lagbolt let us see in a bit |
| 19:50.14 | Decepticon | is it normal that one liner dpkg gave me removed a whole bunch of packages |
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| 19:54.49 | FordCortina | what do the scores in aptitude actually mean? |
| 19:55.15 | FordCortina | is -900 good or bad? sometimes it gives me a lower scoring option first... |
| 19:55.28 | ArthurArchnix | FordCortina: I don't see scores anymore. What version are you using? |
| 19:55.46 | FordCortina | 0.4.11.4 |
| 19:57.23 | ArthurArchnix | Me as well |
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| 19:59.28 | pipegeek | hey.... |
| 19:59.37 | pipegeek | I'm trying to rsync over a file that has a : in its name |
| 19:59.47 | pipegeek | and can't figure out how to escape the darned thing. How is it done? |
| 20:00.15 | \amethyst | pipegeek: rsync ./file:with:colons destination |
| 20:00.27 | pipegeek | aha! |
| 20:00.29 | pipegeek | thanks :) |
| 20:00.34 | pipegeek | shoulda thought of that... |
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| 20:00.40 | \amethyst | pipegeek: if rsync sees a slash before the first colon, it assumes it's a local path |
| 20:00.50 | DawnLight | mordy: i don't know... try #winehq |
| 20:00.59 | pipegeek | cool. |
| 20:01.06 | DawnLight | \amethyst: thanks! |
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| 20:02.09 | mordy | hehe, thanks dawnlight - as a side note - do you know where i can get a decent laptop in this country? |
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| 20:03.22 | ootput | at a wealthy patron's residence |
| 20:03.44 | mordy | lol ootput |
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| 20:04.07 | mordy | now where d i find a wealthy patron with a good laptop? |
| 20:05.19 | Nyle | hi |
| 20:05.24 | Nyle | Good afternoon |
| 20:05.39 | amphi | mordy: there are certain public lavatories, I believe |
| 20:05.44 | Nyle | amphi, hi |
| 20:05.49 | amphi | pon |
| 20:05.54 | newsense | Nyle,=wealthy patron with laptop |
| 20:05.56 | Nyle | why are you discussing public lavatories? |
| 20:06.04 | ootput | Nyle: stick with casual |
| 20:06.05 | Nyle | newsense, not yet I'm not |
| 20:06.09 | amphi | Nyle: < mordy> now where d i find a wealthy patron with a good laptop? |
| 20:06.12 | newsense | lol jk |
| 20:06.14 | Nyle | thats all my parents money |
| 20:06.15 | Nyle | :) |
| 20:06.30 | newsense | mine has been stolen already sorry |
| 20:06.35 | Nyle | that sucks |
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| 20:06.58 | mordy | mine has depereciated. |
| 20:07.31 | ootput | it would've started about a micro-second into the purchase ;) |
| 20:08.17 | newsense | ootput, sounds about right lol |
| 20:08.24 | newsense | unfortunately |
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| 20:09.21 | dudeman | amphi, hey i got the cd to work |
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| 20:09.36 | dudeman | amphi, not in linux though |
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| 20:09.37 | jberg_ | i have a laptop with a broadcom chipset for the wireless card, and when i had ubuntu i had to do apt-get install b43; rmmod b43; modprobe b43 to get it to work, but now i have debian lenny and it cant find package b43. does anyone know what to do? |
| 20:09.48 | dudeman | amphi, I don't think its a hw issue, or a bad burn. I think its a vista thing |
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| 20:10.05 | amphi | dudeman: this is like deja vu all over again |
| 20:10.21 | dudeman | amphi, how come? |
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| 20:10.32 | ootput | jberg_: it may have been incorporated into the kernel, or is now provided by a different package |
| 20:10.40 | amphi | dudeman: we discussed this several hours ago |
| 20:10.42 | newsense | jberg, find out what chipset it uses and mmodprobe that module if available already |
| 20:10.46 | dudeman | amphi, we did? |
| 20:10.56 | amphi | dudeman: t3h 3vi1 vista cd fs |
| 20:10.58 | newsense | if not dl it off the web install and load |
| 20:11.16 | jberg_ | ootput: ok. i dont think its in the kernel because the wireless card isn't working |
| 20:11.24 | dustybin | is the wireless atheros driver for linux free or non-free ? |
| 20:11.35 | jberg_ | newsense: its a broadcom chipset |
| 20:11.54 | ootput | jberg_: is b43-cutter available? |
| 20:12.10 | newsense | yeah try that |
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| 20:12.37 | dudeman | amphi, you suck |
| 20:12.44 | jberg_ | ootput: hm dont know. im not at that computer right now. ill check later |
| 20:12.51 | Jacob_H | jberg_: itâs b43-fwcutter |
| 20:13.03 | ootput | oh right |
| 20:13.13 | sanmarcos | I want to have server redundancy, is it possible to have two servers running exactly the same OS/Conf, etc, is there any tools for syncying? |
| 20:13.29 | Jacob_H | and itâs a bit of a pain to get working, IMHO, but it is possible :-) |
| 20:14.25 | Nazz | linux heartbeat |
| 20:14.30 | Nazz | look up that |
| 20:14.37 | dudeman | why? |
| 20:14.43 | Nazz | it may be what you are looking for sanmarcos |
| 20:15.24 | bhundven | sanmarcos: might want to check out cfengine |
| 20:15.58 | sanmarcos | I don't need anything that fancy, I just a backup server for my home server |
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| 20:16.28 | bhundven | rsync... |
| 20:16.35 | sanmarcos | does rsync work over ethernet? |
| 20:16.40 | bhundven | um. yes. |
| 20:16.41 | \amethyst | sanmarcos: it works over ssh |
| 20:16.51 | sanmarcos | great, will check it out |
| 20:16.52 | \amethyst | sanmarcos: (and has its own server protocol, but usually you'd use ssh) |
| 20:17.33 | \amethyst | sanmarcos: what needs to be preserved? Just the apache configuration and the web root? |
| 20:17.37 | mordy | how do i fix broken packages? |
| 20:17.58 | \amethyst | sanmarcos: or do you need to keep all the configuration in sync? |
| 20:18.01 | mordy | and how do i tell apt-get to only use official sources if i want a certain package installed? |
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| 20:18.03 | sanmarcos | all servers, users home folders, etc |
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| 20:18.25 | cr3 | hi, can I rename .xsession to .xinitrc?? halphalp |
| 20:18.27 | Nazz | try some backup solution then i thought you meant clustering |
| 20:18.33 | n3kl | mordy: look into pinning |
| 20:18.34 | sanmarcos | yep |
| 20:18.50 | mordy | !pinning |
| 20:18.51 | dpkg | If you are running stable, don't pin; use a backport. Ask me about <backports> or <simple sid backport>. If you're using testing, man apt_preferences or see http://wiki.debian.org/AptPinning. |
| 20:19.40 | Nazz | sanmarcos: look up amanda in google |
| 20:19.48 | bhundven | grumbles something about the manual: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html |
| 20:19.48 | n3kl | Nazz: do you know something about clustering? |
| 20:19.52 | cr3 | can I rename .xsession to .xinitrc? |
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| 20:19.58 | Nazz | not much |
| 20:20.02 | bhundven | cr3, yes |
| 20:20.08 | simonrvn | cr3: symlink it |
| 20:20.11 | cr3 | kthxbai |
| 20:20.15 | bhundven | I usually symlink .xinitrc to .xsession |
| 20:20.18 | bhundven | lol |
| 20:20.33 | bhundven | high5's simonrvn |
| 20:20.35 | simonrvn | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:20.47 | sanmarcos | Nazz: some nice pictures :) |
| 20:21.03 | Nazz | http://www.amanda.org/ |
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| 20:21.22 | dudeman | simonrvn, hi |
| 20:21.30 | Nazz | oh looks kinda different |
| 20:21.49 | dudeman | simonrvn, did you see my little baby god daughter? she is sooo cute |
| 20:21.56 | dudeman | im soooo happy :D |
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| 20:22.30 | dudeman | simonrvn, check that out :D |
| 20:27.25 | mordy | gah, this is complicated :( how do i get ntfs 3g installed? when i comment out the backports source, it doesn't show up, and when i uncommennt it, it tells me that my fuse library is of a newer version that expected. i tried reinstalling the library with only official sources - and it seems to have worked, but when i uncomment backports, it tells me it's too new again :( |
| 20:28.05 | n3kl | mordy: lean how to use backports. Uncomment it, do apt-get -t etch-backports install ntfs-3g |
| 20:28.13 | n3kl | I think |
| 20:28.34 | n3kl | mordy: then there is an update in there also |
| 20:28.39 | mordy | "etch backports"? or the url |
| 20:28.52 | n3kl | mordy: I think its just "etch-backports" |
| 20:28.58 | kensuke | Hi, i try to install debian sparc, but in the partition disks say " |
| 20:28.59 | kensuke | Hi, i try to install debian sparc, but in the partition disks say "Esto se debe a un error en libparted y no puede ser fijado en |
| 20:29.02 | kensuke | partman-auto. Sin embargo partman-auto no debe proponer para hacer algo |
| 20:29.04 | kensuke | de que no puede hacer. La forma más fácil corregir es eliminar partman-auto para |
| 20:29.05 | n3kl | mordy: exactly as I typed it |
| 20:29.08 | kensuke | sparc pero, por otra parte el particionado guiado de un espacio libre |
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| 20:29.46 | n3kl | kenjy: try #debian-es maybe |
| 20:29.55 | keith4 | he left |
| 20:30.01 | n3kl | meh |
| 20:30.03 | keith4 | well, the guy you meant to direct that to left, anyway |
| 20:30.16 | n3kl | right right |
| 20:30.23 | mordy | n3k1 - it worked - thanks - but what does "-t" mean? |
| 20:30.35 | n3kl | mordy: it tells apt which repo to use |
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| 20:31.15 | mordy | does it stand for anything? |
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| 20:31.34 | n3kl | mordy: man apt-get I am sure will tell you |
| 20:31.35 | dudeman | man apt-get |
| 20:31.38 | mordy | hehe |
| 20:31.45 | mordy | i love those mans |
| 20:31.47 | n3kl | mordy: target-release |
| 20:31.52 | mordy | rolls eyes and sighs |
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| 20:31.53 | mordy | oh |
| 20:31.59 | mordy | hehe, thought it meant something like 'target' |
| 20:32.02 | n3kl | mordy loves men |
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| 20:32.18 | dudeman | I love men too |
| 20:32.29 | dudeman | one of them is my dad, two of them are my brothers.. and so forth |
| 20:32.43 | n3kl | ha |
| 20:33.07 | mordy | you may wish to discuss this in #incest |
| 20:33.21 | cloakable | lol |
| 20:33.26 | n3kl | haha |
| 20:33.41 | n3kl | Doods, xen rocks the shiznit |
| 20:33.45 | keith4 | wonders if there really is a #incest |
| 20:33.51 | simonrvn | wonders what incest has to do with homosexuality |
| 20:33.54 | mordy | you can create it |
| 20:34.18 | mordy | nah, not related to homosexuality - but if it involves one's father(s) and brothers then yes |
| 20:34.21 | sanmarcos | If I wanted to create an "image" of my / (whole disk), what would be the best compression tool to do it (I plan to do it weekly and send it over the network to another machine). I don't want synch because I want the whole thing in one "file", just one image/snapshoot, not a huge tree |
| 20:35.00 | keith4 | partimage is good for things like that |
| 20:35.09 | keith4 | or good ol' "dump" |
| 20:35.29 | sanmarcos | what about gzip/bzip ? |
| 20:35.51 | magyar_ | hi, how do i tell etch to start the nic at boot time? |
| 20:35.54 | n3kl | couldn't you just `cat /dev/sda1 > bla` ? |
| 20:35.58 | sanmarcos | what is the difference between a .tar.bz2 and a .bz2, which is better? |
| 20:36.00 | simonrvn | if it's binary data, that's not going to be much use |
| 20:36.02 | n3kl | magyar_: man interfaces |
| 20:36.11 | \amethyst | simonrvn: a .tar contains multiple files |
| 20:36.12 | \amethyst | doh |
| 20:36.20 | \amethyst | sanmarcos: a .tar contains multiple files |
| 20:36.22 | n3kl | sanmarcos: bz2 is slower and better compression, tgz is faster but not as compressed |
| 20:36.24 | simonrvn | !kill \amethyst |
| 20:36.24 | dpkg | rips \amethyst open with a Knoppix CD |
| 20:36.28 | simonrvn | :P |
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| 20:36.43 | abrotman | i can't smite anyone :( |
| 20:36.45 | \amethyst | sanmarcos: a .bz2 contains a single file (perhaps a tar file) |
| 20:36.48 | sanmarcos | so, Bzip cant contain mutliple files? |
| 20:36.49 | sanmarcos | what a joke |
| 20:36.54 | keith4 | knoppix CDs aren't that sharp, really |
| 20:36.55 | \amethyst | sanmarcos: that's why it's .tar.bz2 |
| 20:37.00 | \amethyst | sanmarcos: neither can gzip |
| 20:37.07 | sanmarcos | so .tar is just a "container". no compression |
| 20:37.10 | keith4 | yes |
| 20:37.11 | mordy | burns Parliament and runs |
| 20:37.13 | \amethyst | sanmarcos: right |
| 20:37.21 | n3kl | I am a backtrack fan, myself |
| 20:37.24 | sanmarcos | that sounds about right for what I wan't, I will do some trials, thanks |
| 20:37.31 | \amethyst | sanmarcos: and bzip2/gzip are just compression, no container |
| 20:37.36 | abrotman | gah .. no apostrophe smite! |
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| 20:38.01 | abrotman | sanmarcos: if you cat 10 files into a single .. and then compare the size to a tarball of the same .. the difference is the tar header |
| 20:38.05 | keith4 | sanmarcos: but there are flags to give to tar, when creating an archive, to tell it to compress it with bzip, gzip, etc. |
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| 20:38.22 | keith4 | 7zip maybe? |
| 20:38.28 | keith4 | shrugs |
| 20:38.48 | sanmarcos | keith4: right, so it ties in with them |
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| 20:38.55 | keith4 | you could always look into netcat, too |
| 20:39.10 | keith4 | but that's a totally different direction to go |
| 20:39.15 | n3kl | netcat ftw! |
| 20:39.30 | anddam | any gnomer? |
| 20:39.36 | n3kl | Though I also like tar | |
| 20:39.46 | anddam | I can't figure if I can add a menu of my own on panel |
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| 20:40.02 | n3kl | anddam: I am sure there is a #gnome |
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| 20:40.15 | n3kl | What is everyone's obsession with gnome anyway |
| 20:40.29 | anddam | n3kl: no obsession, and I already asked on #gnome |
| 20:40.39 | sanmarcos | anddam: irc.gnome.org |
| 20:40.56 | n3kl | anddam: someone may be able to help you in here, but you have to be specific about your issue/problem |
| 20:40.57 | sanmarcos | anddam: and I don't think you can add a custom menu, not without programming. You can add drawers though |
| 20:40.59 | anddam | n3kl: it just happen to be here, I can't remember installing it by hand so maybe I made a "full" install or something |
| 20:41.03 | ukatan | is there a quick way to check which driver my wireless card is using? |
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| 20:41.16 | anddam | sanmarcos: drawers could be just enough |
| 20:41.27 | simonrvn | !apostrophesmite $1 is <action>smacks $1 upside the head for using apostrophes where they don't belong "want, dangnabit, not wan't!" |
| 20:41.27 | dpkg | smite's $1 is <action>smacks $1 upside the head for using apostrophes where they don't belong "want, dangnabit, not wan't!" with a plague of extraneous apostrophe's. |
| 20:41.36 | keith4 | ukatan: dmesg? lsmod? |
| 20:41.36 | simonrvn | GAH |
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| 20:41.47 | simonrvn | abrotman: there is one |
| 20:41.57 | anddam | basically I put 6 launcher on panel and they're taking too much space so I'd like to put them in a container that popups vertically |
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| 20:42.04 | et | simonrvn: use "no, foo $x is ..." |
| 20:42.27 | simonrvn | i know how to use the bot. i didn't expect a factoid to be there. |
| 20:43.00 | simonrvn | i guess abrotman just added it |
| 20:43.04 | keith4 | ukatan: probably something from the iw____ family |
| 20:43.16 | keith4 | simonrvn: it does seem recent, doesn't it |
| 20:43.44 | simonrvn | yeh |
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| 20:44.03 | ukatan | thx keith4 |
| 20:44.08 | ukatan | I should be able to figure it out from here |
| 20:44.12 | simonrvn | no, 2004, by Phated |
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| 20:44.37 | simonrvn | !apostrophesmite me |
| 20:44.37 | dpkg | smite's simonrvn with a plague of extraneous apostrophe's. |
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| 20:44.57 | Nazz | fuck. i've just deleted my code directory while messing with svn |
| 20:45.03 | Nazz | and i dont have a backup |
| 20:45.13 | Nazz | can i do some filesystem snooping and get them back? |
| 20:45.31 | keith4 | suck |
| 20:46.09 | keith4 | Nazz: try 'recover' or 'e2undel' ? |
| 20:46.17 | anddam | sanmarcos: a drawer made it thx |
| 20:46.22 | keith4 | or 'magicrescue' |
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| 20:46.45 | bhundven | what bot is dpkg? |
| 20:47.01 | micols | i mount my rootfs over nfs and my machine crashes often, how can i recover the resulting errors on the filesystem? i dont want to remount my servers rootfs readonly (my clients nfs rootfs is on servers root partition) ? |
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| 20:47.20 | docmax | hello, how can i make nfs exports to show mount points? |
| 20:47.36 | Nazz | keith4: will e2undel work on ext3 |
| 20:47.43 | simonrvn | bhundven: what do you mean? |
| 20:47.53 | keith4 | Nazz: probably |
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| 20:48.18 | keith4 | they're the same undelying structure |
| 20:48.21 | keith4 | underlying, too |
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| 20:48.46 | anddam | bye |
| 20:48.54 | keith4 | docmax: show -e ? |
| 20:49.16 | keith4 | something like that |
| 20:49.31 | sanmarcos | time tar -cjf --total / Backup-DATA.tar.bz2 (for my first try) |
| 20:49.44 | keith4 | showmount -e |
| 20:49.47 | keith4 | docmax: ^^ |
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| 20:52.02 | docmax | keith4? what does it do? |
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| 20:52.42 | n3kl | docmax: man showmount |
| 20:53.37 | docmax | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:53.38 | keith4 | docmax: it answers your question, if I'm interpreting it correctly |
| 20:53.50 | docmax | Export list for nslu2: |
| 20:53.54 | docmax | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:54.12 | keith4 | you're exporting / to the entire 192.168.1.0/24 subnet? |
| 20:54.24 | docmax | my problem is, nfs does not show mounts within the directory structure |
| 20:54.33 | keith4 | wtf does that mean? |
| 20:54.35 | lithophyte | so I upgraded to unstable (probably a bad idea) but now my system is bricked. /dev/* files have wrong permissions ?? |
| 20:54.55 | docmax | keith4, no, the whole subnet is allowed to mount that exports |
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| 20:55.28 | docmax | again, my problem is, nfs does not show mounts within the directory structure. how do i fix it? |
| 20:55.29 | keith4 | docmax: sounsd like you need to read up a bit on NFS |
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| 20:55.39 | docmax | i read all man pages |
| 20:55.43 | docmax | i get no clue |
| 20:55.57 | keith4 | docmax: repeating an unclear question in the exact same words doesn't make it any clearer |
| 20:56.07 | n3kl | docmax: you don't make sense |
| 20:56.24 | docmax | ok i try to explain |
| 20:56.52 | docmax | on my server, i have /mnt/HDD01 ... it is mounted with /dev/sdb1 .. files are visible on the server |
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| 20:57.19 | docmax | when mounting the whole root dir on the client, /mnt/HDD01 is empty! |
| 20:57.32 | keith4 | NFS exports won't cross filesystem boundaries, iirc |
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| 20:57.59 | docmax | is there any possibility to workaround it? any switches? |
| 20:58.17 | docmax | samba for example shows the mounts... |
| 20:58.39 | docmax | i can even umount them... and the files disappear... mount again and files appear |
| 20:58.50 | keith4 | try 'man exports' |
| 20:59.12 | bhundven | simonrvn: I was just wondering if it was mozbot or what irc bot is dpkg? |
| 20:59.29 | keith4 | docmax: there are weird options.. something like 'nohide' and 'crossmnt', that might help you |
| 20:59.48 | simonrvn | infobot |
| 20:59.49 | docmax | tried nohide... |
| 20:59.57 | docmax | ill try crossmnt now |
| 21:00.10 | n3kl | docmax: its in the manpage |
| 21:00.16 | keith4 | iirc, it doesn't work well with older NFS clients |
| 21:00.24 | keith4 | because they can get confused about inodes and such |
| 21:00.26 | keith4 | it's a POSIX issue |
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| 21:00.55 | bhundven | simonrvn: thx. I'm trying to find a new bot for our irc server, and I like whatever dpkg is (infobot) :) |
| 21:00.56 | docmax | no chance... still empty |
| 21:01.02 | keith4 | docmax: i think you're SOL |
| 21:01.05 | keith4 | "The nohide option is currently only effective on single host exports. It does not work reliâ |
| 21:01.05 | keith4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:01.41 | docmax | single host exports... |
| 21:01.50 | docmax | ok ill try... crossmnt didnt fix my problem |
| 21:02.15 | n3kl | docmax: why not just export the other mountpoint also? |
| 21:02.47 | newsense | been a while since i compiled my own kernel but would like to do it again, any good guide for what basic options should be compiled into the kernel ? |
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| 21:03.10 | javatexan | have yall seen this http://youtube.com/watch?v=e-LOtKIIKcg |
| 21:03.28 | keith4 | newsense: that's like asking "i'm going to buy a new car. anyone have a guide for what I should be looking for?" |
| 21:03.41 | docmax | n3kl, cause i get troubles when removing the media... |
| 21:04.06 | docmax | mount points cant be unmounted cause they are "busy" |
| 21:04.30 | newsense | keith4, i feel ya on that one, guess most defaults are good unless i specifally know i dont need it |
| 21:04.30 | docmax | it would make me happy if nfs could make mount points visible... |
| 21:04.53 | keith4 | you're attempting to use nfs for something that it explicitly says will not work, in the manpage. best of luck to you |
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| 21:06.42 | docmax | i think i got it... |
| 21:06.53 | docmax | i have to work with fsid= option... |
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| 21:11.52 | docmax | IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| 21:12.11 | Uz | Any suggestions what I could try to fix 'input/output errors' while reading some .avi files? |
| 21:12.14 | docmax | i think it was the fsid= switch |
| 21:13.19 | docmax | no it wasnt. ok i will check what did the trick |
| 21:13.37 | Uz | these seem to be hard disk / filesystem errors.. I basically downloaded files to my home partition, with my root partition not having any free space.. so dunno if this is related or not |
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| 21:14.58 | tview | Anyone here using Debian Lenny able to get glade-3 running? I hit "open" and nothing happens. |
| 21:15.36 | wols_ | start it from a xterm |
| 21:15.40 | wols_ | see if there are messages |
| 21:15.42 | mortal1 | hello, I was wondering can anyone recommend a good guide to recover a rieser filesystem? |
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| 21:15.56 | wols_ | mortal1: a restore |
| 21:17.15 | docmax | all right, it was CROSSMNT! |
| 21:17.34 | docmax | it needs to be assed to the root dir |
| 21:17.38 | docmax | added |
| 21:17.45 | FordCortina | !aptitude score |
| 21:17.46 | docmax | im so happy |
| 21:18.12 | mortal1 | I'm not exactly sure what's wrong with the file system. I just wanted a good guide to throw on my usb stick for when i help a friend out tomarrow |
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| 21:19.19 | docmax | keith4, u see? |
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| 21:24.37 | balasyum | hi |
| 21:24.54 | balasyum | what's the easiest way of creating a bittorrent tracker? |
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| 21:26.17 | _Kewl_ | balasyum: google it!!! ;) |
| 21:26.24 | balasyum | ok |
| 21:26.53 | balasyum | I thought there is a good trick or something :) |
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| 21:27.10 | _Kewl_ | balasyum: hum... |
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| 21:29.27 | tview | is anyone aware of any gnome extension which might show the actual applet name / bin name for a running program? e.g right click on applet and gets name/process id? |
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| 21:34.55 | htmlol | !usb |
| 21:34.56 | dpkg | [usb] (Universal Serial Bus) A technology that has replaced the way that some peripheral devices connect to a computer. It is much faster than serial and parallel communications. It is also much more flexible: it will be able to connect to many devices simultaneously. http://www.linux-usb.org, or http://www.linux-usb.org/USB-guide/book1.html |
| 21:35.09 | htmlol | !usbdebian |
| 21:35.14 | htmlol | heh |
| 21:35.18 | htmlol | !factoids |
| 21:35.19 | dpkg | Pick my brains at http://dpkg.vireo.org/search.php or ask me about <help listkeys> or <search>. Also, my factoids are available at http://rzlab.ucr.edu/~dpkg/ in archives that are updated nightly and the previous 18 days are archived. |
| 21:35.40 | towski | anyone familiar which logs to check for a gnome/metacity window drawing problem? |
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| 21:38.28 | towski | when I resume a session on gnome, sometimes it fails to redraw things when they scroll. Or taskbar icons when they change. |
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| 21:52.10 | Caelum | can you cat mp3 files together? |
| 21:53.24 | Nibbl | sure |
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| 21:56.35 | Caelum | found mp3cat |
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| 22:03.07 | null | Question: My kernel was built with gcc 4.1.2 and now I have gcc 4.3.1 and vmware is complaining during the configuration. Should I rebuild the kernel and if so, how? |
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| 22:03.44 | curtmack | nothing bad would happen if I clear out /var/cache/apt/archives, right? |
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| 22:04.02 | balasyum | has any1 used bttrack? |
| 22:04.12 | balasyum | or bttrack.bittorrent? |
| 22:04.20 | curtmack | cause it's kinda 10% of my total hard drive now |
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| 22:04.33 | null | curtmack: isn't that the behaviour of apt-get clean? |
| 22:04.36 | balasyum | curtmack, do apt-get clean |
| 22:04.43 | curtmack | okay, thanks |
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| 22:11.46 | cr3 | hi |
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| 22:13.54 | cr3 | i subscribed to some debian mailing lists, downloaded 'pan' (reader)... typed address: lists.debian.org... and tried to get some messages but i got none! i tried various ports, 143, 110... but in logs i get 'connecting lists.debian.org... connection refused'. wth? |
| 22:14.18 | cr3 | i have never done that kind of stuff before |
| 22:14.25 | cr3 | i mean mailing list |
| 22:14.31 | cr3 | just wanted to check out |
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| 22:15.14 | LieZ^ | how do you install JRE? |
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| 22:19.14 | Nyle | !install java |
| 22:19.14 | dpkg | Free java implementations available in Debian can be seen by running "apt-cache search java-virtual-machine". If you need to run software not supported by one of the free java implementations (e.g. anything not in main and some websites using java controls) then install sun-java5-plugin or sun-java6-plugin from non-free. For etch, backported sun-java6-* packages are available; ask me about <bpo>, <java amd64>. |
| 22:20.13 | htmlol | !whowas cr3rzemjest |
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| 22:21.00 | peaces | is there a way to search package descriptions in aptitude? |
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| 22:21.08 | cr3rzemjest | who i wuz? i wuz not! i did nothin! |
| 22:21.53 | bleck | what makes a network card automatically start, even if its not in /etc/network/interfaces? |
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| 22:26.41 | yEpLA | hi |
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| 22:27.21 | danielvrf | hi, good night |
| 22:27.42 | cr3rzemjest | if (mailing list != newsgroup ) cout << "true"; |
| 22:27.47 | cr3rzemjest | someone compile this |
| 22:27.53 | yEpLA | i have try the usb install of lenny seems good but not my driver and i have try the usb install of sid it reboot after push enter on install |
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| 22:28.26 | yEpLA | someone can say me why sid usb install doesn't start correctly ? |
| 22:28.49 | abrotman | there is no sid install |
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| 22:29.09 | abrotman | yEpLA: what's wrong with the etch installer? |
| 22:29.13 | yEpLA | i speak of this one debian-40r3-i386-netinst |
| 22:29.22 | streuner | hm |
| 22:29.43 | yEpLA | abrotman, i don't know it reboot after push install on the first screen |
| 22:29.51 | abrotman | ETCH |
| 22:29.56 | yEpLA | the installer of lenny don't do it |
| 22:30.04 | yEpLA | yes |
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| 22:31.26 | yEpLA | someone can help me for that ? |
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| 22:33.57 | yEpLA | abrotman, ??? |
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| 22:45.06 | noohgodno | "S'okay dannye boy." Jordigh says, pressing his lips to Dannye's. The feeling wasn't like kissing a woman, it was more like kissing a man in the woods while drunk. Dannye gave himself over to the sensations flooding his brain, let himself be swept up in the madness of it. Gay sex felt familiar, like a favorite recliner or a long wait at the DMV. |
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| 22:45.53 | htmlol | ..... |
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| 22:46.28 | mordy | hmmm.... |
| 22:49.18 | mordy | i've got something wrong with my html connections- is there any tool that can monitor it? |
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| 22:50.37 | htmlol | netstat lists all connections, I don't know if that would help, maybe you could be more specific |
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| 22:52.00 | mordy | hmm... netstat mentions a lot of connections - is it supposed to be like that if all i'm running is streaming audio and xchat? |
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| 22:53.15 | mordy | although i don't think the problem is in my router- my router's netstat is pretty clean |
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| 22:54.33 | kokice | can someone try ssh to IP: 67.160.134.92 port: 2222 for me? |
| 22:54.35 | kokice | and test please |
| 22:55.13 | bleck | mordy: pretty much |
| 22:55.34 | mordy | pretty much what? :-/ |
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| 22:56.45 | bleck | kokice: yeah, works |
| 22:56.59 | kokice | bleck: thanks a bunch :))) |
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| 22:57.23 | mordy | and disconnected :( |
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| 23:01.52 | kjs | Ahahahhahahahah its midnight !!! THATS SO FUCKING FUNNY |
| 23:02.15 | Kumool | ?? |
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| 23:04.28 | mordy | any solution? |
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| 23:04.39 | yEpLA | hi |
| 23:05.02 | n3kl | mordy: what |
| 23:05.04 | n3kl | yEpLA: hi |
| 23:05.35 | yEpLA | to make an usb installer i just need to do zcat boot.img.gz > /dev/y_usb_device |
| 23:05.48 | mordy | n3kl - just some traffic issues - i seem to have a problem with html traffic, or in simpler terms - my browsers are all slow |
| 23:05.55 | yEpLA | copie the .iso file on usb and vmlinuz ??? |
| 23:06.02 | n3kl | yEpLA: yeah, read the docs. Then you need to copy an iso |
| 23:06.10 | n3kl | yEpLA: no vmlinuz needed |
| 23:06.23 | yEpLA | just the iso and it s done ? |
| 23:06.27 | n3kl | mordy: got a linux router? Try tcpdump |
| 23:06.31 | n3kl | yEpLA: yeah |
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| 23:06.57 | yEpLA | n3kl, i have read the doc but when i push enter my computer reboot |
| 23:07.17 | yEpLA | i ask me if i not do a mistak |
| 23:07.21 | Madhat | how do you list installed packages? |
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| 23:07.40 | n3kl | yEpLA: its like this, zcat boot.img.gz > /dev/sda && mount /dev/sda /mnt && cp install.iso /mnt/ && umount /mnt |
| 23:07.43 | n3kl | done |
| 23:07.55 | mordy | n3kl - i've got a linux router - but "not found" - dd wrt |
| 23:07.58 | yEpLA | n3kl, i have do that |
| 23:08.10 | mordy | well, it's not a linksys but a netgear |
| 23:08.24 | n3kl | yEpLA: note, sda, not sda1 |
| 23:08.34 | yEpLA | yep |
| 23:08.43 | yEpLA | i have do that ! |
| 23:08.51 | yEpLA | i have juste the screen of install |
| 23:08.58 | n3kl | mordy: sounds like you need to setup some monitoring. If you are on a hub you could do tcpdump from a machine, or wireshark or something |
| 23:09.03 | yEpLA | and after my computer reboot when i push install |
| 23:09.04 | mordy | netstat doesn't show anything abnormal on ym router though |
| 23:09.12 | abrotman | Madhat: /msg dpkg installed |
| 23:09.17 | SlimG2 | How do I make debians dhcp client report the current hostname to the dhcp server when negotiating for IP lease? |
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| 23:10.14 | cloakable | SlimG2: take a look at /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf |
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| 23:10.29 | mordy | n3k1 - is tcpdump the same as tcpd? |
| 23:10.30 | cloakable | SlimG2: the 'send-hostname' option near the top |
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| 23:11.40 | cloakable | SlimG2: wait, send host-name |
| 23:11.51 | SlimG2 | cloakable: is that the "debian way"? I was told to append "hostname <hostname>" to the correct interface in /etc/network/interfaces ... ? |
| 23:11.56 | yEpLA | n3kl, can you say me why my computer reboot ? |
| 23:12.01 | SlimG2 | But I cannot make that work |
| 23:12.52 | cloakable | SlimG2: not sure if it's the 'debian way', but it's the way I setup my hosts :) I'll read man interfaces a second |
| 23:13.20 | path_ | guys I'm trying to learn howto use cron, cron.daily it means it will execute at any moment of the day ? |
| 23:13.28 | n3kl | yEpLA: NoxIn |
| 23:13.36 | n3kl | yEpLA: no, I have no idea. |
| 23:13.37 | rahul | !penixstrike Nyle |
| 23:13.37 | dpkg | A towering Penix descends from the heavens, knocking Nyle to the ground and leaving a large wet spot. |
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| 23:13.52 | yEpLA | it s a bug you think ? |
| 23:14.28 | SlimG2 | cloakable: fwiw, your method works like a charm, but please do tell if you find another way to do it |
| 23:14.37 | cloakable | SlimG2: yes, you can put 'hostname <hostname>' under the interface in the interfaces line |
| 23:14.46 | cloakable | *interfaces file |
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| 23:16.45 | cloakable | SlimG2: just consulted 'man 5 interfaces' |
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| 23:20.20 | SlimG2 | cloakable: I am getting bogus test-results here, I will try to flush the dhcp server and try again with the interfaces method |
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| 23:20.28 | SlimG2 | thanks for your help cloakable |
| 23:21.02 | cloakable | SlimG2: no problem, happy to help |
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| 23:23.02 | simbioz | hi |
| 23:23.29 | simbioz | I want to do something like this: sudo aptitude install -R libsdl*dev |
| 23:23.45 | simbioz | but it does not work |
| 23:24.26 | null | Question: I rm -rf'd /var/cache/apt/archives and now I get a Could not open lock file /var/cache/apt/archiveslock - open (2 No such file or directory). What can I do to fix apt? |
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| 23:26.34 | abrotman | null: ls -ld /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
| 23:27.19 | abrotman | null: btw .. next time .. `aptitude clean` |
| 23:28.19 | null | abrotman: I only have /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin and /var/cache/apt/srcpkgcache.bin |
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| 23:29.23 | yEpLA | etch installator is bugged or it s me but i really don't know |
| 23:29.28 | abrotman | drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 28672 2008-07-16 19:03 /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
| 23:29.31 | abrotman | null: ^^ |
| 23:29.39 | abrotman | null: create the directory |
| 23:30.07 | SlimG2 | cloakable: Sorry to say, but appending hostname in the interfaces file just doesnt work, any ideas? I have never gotten that to work, and I have tried several times |
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| 23:30.31 | abrotman | null: drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2008-07-16 18:51 /var/cache/apt/archives/partial/ .. probably want that one too |
| 23:31.03 | null | abrotman: thanks, got it |
| 23:31.43 | yEpLA | with lenny it s work ! there are not a boot.img.gz no bugged to install etch ? |
| 23:31.59 | yEpLA | it will be great ! |
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| 23:32.47 | cloakable | SlimG2: I'm not entirely sure. the dhclient.conf always worked for me, and all the interfaces line should do is pass the option to the client. You may be seeing a conflict between dhclient and your dhcp server |
| 23:33.49 | extor | My gnome desktop all of a sudden refuses to go into 1280X1024 mode even though it was doing that yesterday and the last 3 months. Now it just goes to 1280X800 and there is no option for me to change it to 1280X1024 |
| 23:34.19 | cloakable | SlimG2: can you pastebin your interfaces file? |
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| 23:35.28 | SlimG2 | cloakable: According to http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=28176&sid=b76de680eb90778275fb22af689aa2f2 , the problem lies within the debian dhcp package (see the second comment) |
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| 23:35.52 | null | Question: I'm getting the following error when trying the nvidia one-liner after a kernel upgrade: The following packages have unmet dependencies: nvidia-glx: Depends: nvidia-kernel-173.14.09 but it is not installable |
| 23:36.00 | SlimG2 | cloakable: So if that is the case, the only way to do it is the way you first explained to me |
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| 23:36.18 | cloakable | SlimG2: looks like it |
| 23:36.33 | abrotman | null: etch? lenny? sid? |
| 23:36.39 | null | abrotman: sid |
| 23:36.45 | abrotman | !sid upgrade |
| 23:36.52 | abrotman | grr .. bot hate |
| 23:36.56 | abrotman | null: it's sid .. it breaks .. |
| 23:37.44 | null | abrotman: Would you happen to know how to fix this? Package nvidia-kernel-173.14.09 is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 23:37.47 | null | This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or |
| 23:37.50 | null | is only available from another source |
| 23:37.52 | null | E: Package nvidia-kernel-173.14.09 has no installation candidate |
| 23:38.30 | cloakable | null: either wait, or fix the package youself :P |
| 23:38.41 | cloakable | or go to Lenny ;) |
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| 23:39.38 | null | well right now i have no nvidia :( |
| 23:39.50 | abrotman | you could see what's currently in incoming |
| 23:40.03 | null | how would I do that? |
| 23:40.41 | comp | hello again, does anyone know what package needs to be installed in order to have iptables header files in /usr/include ? I've tried iptables-dev and few things matching *netfilter*, no luck ... and Google looks useless here |
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| 23:41.19 | Fox24 | gi |
| 23:41.23 | Fox24 | hi* |
| 23:42.08 | Fox24 | i get a samba server, but i can't write in my share doc :s |
| 23:42.13 | abrotman | null: it's not there |
| 23:42.17 | null | hmm |
| 23:42.27 | null | so i guess i should reboot into the old kernel :( |
| 23:42.41 | abrotman | Fox24: samba.org and #samba |
| 23:42.49 | Fox24 | okey |
| 23:42.52 | Fox24 | thx ;) |
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| 23:45.31 | mordy | maybe i shouldn't be asking this hear - but is streaming audio really supposded to slow connections down like this? |
| 23:46.01 | cafuego | define 'this' |
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| 23:46.24 | mordy | is streaming audio.... |
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| 23:47.36 | cafuego | it's supposed to eat more than all the bandwidth on a 56k modem link, yes |
| 23:47.54 | mordy | it's a 2500/256 connection |
| 23:48.00 | n3kl | How can I get something to return the target of a symlink? |
| 23:48.13 | themill | n3kl: readlink |
| 23:48.17 | cafuego | n3kl: readlink |
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| 23:48.58 | n3kl | themill: cafuego thanks |
| 23:49.10 | cafuego | mordy: then a 2.5Mbit audio feed will eat more than all of the bandwidth. |
| 23:49.14 | mordy | and it's a 128k stream - tcpdump shows a ton of connections - i don't know if it's supposed to be like that |
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| 23:49.36 | yEpLA | where is the .iso relative to this installer : http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-i386/current/images/hd-media/ |
| 23:49.56 | cafuego | mordy: 1.5kb per packet eh |
| 23:49.59 | mordy | cafuego - it's not necessarily a bandwidth problem - i think it's a connection problem. the speeds are just fine when i'm downloading something - but seem to be horribly slow when browsing |
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| 23:50.38 | mordy | i wish i had tcpdump on my router :( |
| 23:50.49 | yEpLA | plz ... |
| 23:51.05 | yEpLA | i think all the time that i have not the good .iso file |
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| 23:53.07 | yEpLA | nobody can say me ? |
| 23:53.18 | mordy | i can see you |
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| 23:53.26 | newsense | lol |
| 23:53.34 | mordy | say you |
| 23:53.55 | newsense | even funnier |
| 23:54.25 | mordy | gah, i wish there was a way to install tcpdump on my router :( |
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| 23:56.07 | rhombus | mordy: use dd-wrt :) |
| 23:56.22 | mordy | rhom, dd wrt doesn't support tcpdump |
| 23:56.36 | rhombus | mordy: oh? how do you know that? have you tried installing it? |
| 23:56.51 | mordy | rhombus, i'm using it now and am in its shell :p |
| 23:56.55 | rhombus | mordy: it doesn't include tcpdump, but you can add it. |
| 23:57.00 | mordy | ahh... how? |
| 23:57.08 | rhombus | copy a binary over with ssh |
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| 23:57.23 | rhombus | tcpdump is tiny |
| 23:57.25 | mordy | how big is it? how do i copy it? will i need to restart the thing? |
| 23:57.29 | mordy | oh |
| 23:57.29 | rhombus | no |
| 23:57.37 | rhombus | use scp or sftp |
| 23:57.40 | mordy | i've got like 200k free |
| 23:57.51 | rhombus | hmn |
| 23:58.28 | rhombus | that's tight, my tcpdump is 233k |
| 23:58.44 | extor | any good data recovery tools for linux? For NTFS/FAT32 partitions? |
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| 23:59.20 | rhombus | Have the URLs for the Etch repositories changed? |
| 23:59.33 | abrotman | doubtful |
| 23:59.44 | mordy | got disconnected. sometimes i get confused between the xchat and the terminal :| |
| 23:59.48 | rhombus | abrotman: I'm getting strange complaints from aptitude, they don't make sense to me |
