| 00:00.07 | Steve` | i use the rt61 for wlan0, and ndiswrapper for wlan1 and wlan2 |
| 00:00.07 | Steve` | i am probably conflicting or something |
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| 00:18.42 | Flinx | how would I add repositories for sid? |
| 00:19.16 | HansAlcroft | hey guys, does anyone have a newer gen video card? i'm wondering because it seems that my gtx260 doesn't want to work in the initial startup of debian... i figure i can work around this by installing the drivers via command line... but i was wondering if anyone had problems like this. i've tried a few distros and the only live CDs i can get to work are Ubuntu and DSL. |
| 00:19.19 | Ace2016_- | Flinx: change stable to unstable |
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| 00:19.33 | Flinx | in synaptic? |
| 00:19.38 | Ace2016_- | HansAlcroft: m-a a-i nvidia |
| 00:19.45 | Ace2016_- | you need module assistant for that |
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| 00:20.00 | Ace2016_- | Flinx: yea or the sources.list |
| 00:20.17 | HansAlcroft | Ace2016: ? |
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| 00:20.39 | Flinx | I tried finding the sources.list but couldn't |
| 00:20.49 | Flinx | isn't it supposed ot be in /etc/apt? |
| 00:20.52 | Ace2016_- | HansAlcroft: thats how i installed my nvidia driver |
| 00:20.57 | Malf | Flinx: /etc/apt/sources.list yeah |
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| 00:21.08 | HansAlcroft | Ace2016_-: ahh |
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| 00:22.36 | Flinx | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sid main ?? |
| 00:24.07 | lastnode | for my sempron -686 kernel, yes? |
| 00:24.13 | Ace2016_- | Flinx: here is mine, for debian sid, and compiz fusion with the libdvdcss stuff too http://pastebin.ca/1091344 |
| 00:24.35 | Flinx | kay |
| 00:24.36 | Ace2016_- | change the mirror url to ftp.us.debian.org if you want a us one |
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| 00:24.42 | Flinx | I'm trying to get the latest Alsa stuff |
| 00:24.50 | karmatronic | hi guys |
| 00:24.57 | Ace2016_- | hi |
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| 00:26.37 | grendal_prime | what would be something i could run to see if my svideo connection is actually sending something |
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| 00:27.22 | karmatronic | grendal_prime: what s the pb? |
| 00:28.04 | karmatronic | anyone tried pemu? |
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| 00:29.17 | jpinx | I need some help with an error on install - It reads " /bin/sh: can't access tty. jpb control turned off " Anyone able to help please? |
| 00:29.56 | jpinx | that's "job control turned off" |
| 00:30.20 | karmatronic | jpinx: at which step do u get this error? |
| 00:30.40 | jpinx | Ouch - not sure |
| 00:30.46 | simonrvn | i bet when it loads the initrd |
| 00:31.05 | jpinx | I'm doing a dual boot install, need to reboot to find out |
| 00:31.24 | jpinx | or can anyone give me a couple of options how to work around this? |
| 00:31.52 | karmatronic | jpinx: clean ur dvd |
| 00:32.09 | jpinx | yea - it's CD's and they are scratched |
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| 00:32.25 | jpinx | can I get it online? |
| 00:32.32 | simonrvn | netinst |
| 00:32.43 | jpinx | how do I start a netinstall? |
| 00:33.21 | karmatronic | jpinx: first download and burn the netinst image |
| 00:33.26 | simonrvn | ok, what do you mean "get it online"? |
| 00:33.30 | jpinx | no CD burner here :( |
| 00:33.46 | jpinx | I'm in a small village in PERU :D |
| 00:33.56 | jpinx | beautiful place - but zero facilities |
| 00:34.02 | simonrvn | find a buddy who does. oh damn. hmm. |
| 00:34.11 | simonrvn | can you netboot the thing? |
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| 00:34.21 | jpinx | my C|D's got scratched in transit here |
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| 00:34.27 | karmatronic | jpinx: if you re already running linux ,grub can boot an iso i think... |
| 00:34.44 | jpinx | I've got grub at startup |
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| 00:35.11 | jpinx | but debian not fully installed |
| 00:35.22 | grendal_prime | karmatronic: well basically i have made those changes to my xorg config..the ones that should start sending svideo out the svideo port on my laptop..but ummm nothing going to the tv |
| 00:35.23 | jpinx | I'm on XP at the moment (spit) |
| 00:35.25 | karmatronic | jpinx: you ll have to google for how to boot an iso fromgrub |
| 00:35.29 | simonrvn | jpinx: mind if i /msg you? |
| 00:35.37 | jpinx | sure msg away |
| 00:35.42 | simonrvn | ty |
| 00:35.44 | jpinx | all help gratefully received :D |
| 00:36.03 | karmatronic | grendal_prime: you added a monitor section? |
| 00:36.22 | karmatronic | grendal_prime: you added a device section ? |
| 00:36.38 | karmatronic | grendal_prime: you added a layout section? |
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| 00:37.02 | grendal_prime | hmm no |
| 00:37.06 | grendal_prime | hold on |
| 00:37.14 | karmatronic | grendal_prime: you added a screen section? |
| 00:37.24 | grendal_prime | that would be another no |
| 00:37.39 | karmatronic | you need those for ones |
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| 00:38.57 | karmatronic | s/for/four |
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| 00:40.27 | Bateau | I'm wondering how to start one of my start up scripts after others, I had to use a custom compile of zoneminder and it's loading before MySQL, but it depends on it being up to start |
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| 00:42.06 | grendal_prime | ok got those in there now...that should do it ya think? |
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| 00:42.42 | Flinx | ... |
| 00:42.53 | Flinx | whats the permissions of sources.list supposed to be? |
| 00:43.41 | grendal_prime | karmatronic umm im getting my sample from here.. http://paste.stgraber.org/101536 |
| 00:43.50 | Bateau | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 441 2008-08-02 12:37 sources.list |
| 00:43.53 | Bateau | that's what I have |
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| 00:44.08 | grendal_prime | do i need the serverlayout just below screen section in there? |
| 00:44.41 | cweagans | I have root access to a fedora server. I want to convert it to debian. How could I do this? |
| 00:44.42 | Flinx | so... 611? |
| 00:44.59 | cweagans | (and I only have ssh access) |
| 00:44.59 | Bateau | cweagans, not sure that's a sane option, it'd be saner to reinstall and start over |
| 00:45.01 | grendal_prime | im gonna give this a shot ill brb |
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| 00:45.32 | Bateau | if not, you might be able to put debian in a chroot, but I really know of no sane way to swap distros on a live system (I assume this is a VPS) |
| 00:45.39 | cweagans | yeah |
| 00:45.55 | cweagans | I thought about this: http://www.underhanded.org/papers/debian-conversion/remotedeb.html |
| 00:45.59 | cweagans | but I dunno if it'll work |
| 00:46.00 | Jester45 | what language should a non programer learn (im guessing python/ruby/perl) im good with bash scripts so something that is similar would be nice |
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| 00:46.14 | cweagans | Jester45: learn PHP |
| 00:46.15 | cweagans | =D |
| 00:46.21 | Bateau | Jester45, I'd say perl, but that'll start a holy war :p |
| 00:46.24 | Jester45 | yea i dont want php |
| 00:46.30 | cweagans | why not? |
| 00:46.40 | Jester45 | because i dont like it |
| 00:46.45 | cweagans | fair enough |
| 00:46.47 | cweagans | =D |
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| 00:47.15 | Jester45 | the variables ? arent consistent |
| 00:47.23 | Jester45 | not sure if thats the correct term |
| 00:47.28 | Jester45 | functions maybe |
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| 00:47.59 | greeg | hi |
| 00:48.06 | Jester45 | ih |
| 00:48.11 | cweagans | i thought you were a non-programmer? |
| 00:48.19 | Jester45 | im not |
| 00:48.42 | Jester45 | but i have looked into them... and they arent all the same format |
| 00:49.15 | Jester45 | im fine with remembering each function but not the function+ its format |
| 00:49.18 | Bateau | can anyone tell me how to make sure mysql starts before another script at run level 2 when booting? |
| 00:49.24 | cweagans | ? |
| 00:49.32 | cweagans | Jester45: I have no idea what you are talking about |
| 00:49.42 | Jester45 | Bateau, put its rc number first |
| 00:49.52 | Jester45 | cweagans, ill get an example |
| 00:49.59 | cweagans | Jester45: ok |
| 00:50.20 | Bateau | Jester45, where would I find and edit that? (I'm using a premade script distributed with the app) |
| 00:50.57 | Jester45 | imagecreatetruecolor() mysql_connect() |
| 00:50.57 | Bateau | MySQL and ZM both start at rc.2 from what I understand, and that is all the ghigher this box goes (no gui, etc.) |
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| 00:51.40 | Flinx | damnit.. |
| 00:51.45 | Flinx | I broke my sources.list.. |
| 00:51.50 | Jester45 | notice how one has a _ to seprate words whiles the first doesnt... now if im learning this i would need to remember that mysql_connect uses a _ and isnt one word |
| 00:52.50 | Flinx | http://pastebin.ca/1091356 -- the output of apt-get update |
| 00:52.56 | cweagans | database functions have _ |
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| 00:53.00 | Jester45 | Bateau, when going into a runlevel the symlinks are preceded by a number like 99 if you change this number to say 98 the scripts with 98scriptname will run before 99 |
| 00:53.14 | cweagans | and nobody uses imagecreattruecolor() anyways |
| 00:53.30 | Bateau | ahh, thank you! that I understand :) |
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| 00:53.35 | Jester45 | cweagans, why not just use one long word? seeing as it has mysql its a given database function |
| 00:53.39 | kfogel | I just dist-upgraded my 'testing' system, and crossed the iceweasel (firefox) 2.x to 3.x barrier (although it's possible that I tried a beta 3.x before, briefly, and that may affect this). Anyway, FFox 3.0.1 is showing some extremely strange and buggy behavior. Before I describe, is this a known problem? |
| 00:53.58 | Jester45 | Bateau, i may be wrong 99 might be first and 98 second google for the order |
| 00:54.04 | cweagans | Jester45: it's open source. Change it! =D |
| 00:54.09 | Jester45 | Bateau, i havnt needed to to that in a long time |
| 00:54.24 | Jester45 | cweagans, so.. you want me to change a language that im learning? |
| 00:54.37 | cweagans | i was joking =D |
| 00:54.52 | Stephen | hello, i am trying to setup my new wireless dongle |
| 00:54.56 | cweagans | Jester45: C# is also pretty good (just don't use WinForms and your programs will be cross-platform for windows mac and linux) |
| 00:55.03 | Bateau | same here, and I shouldn't have to, but I had to custom compile this, due to needing a few non-standard patches |
| 00:55.09 | Stephen | but the essid doesn't seem to want to set |
| 00:55.39 | Stephen | is there something quite obvoius that can conflict with this ? |
| 00:55.42 | Flinx | can someone help me fix my sources.list? |
| 00:55.49 | Jester45 | my jello didnt want to set either 2day... so i drank it |
| 00:55.54 | Bateau | yes, it's working! THank you Jester45! |
| 00:56.12 | Jester45 | Flinx, ill look at your pastebin right now |
| 00:56.13 | Stephen | Flinx, whats your location and your repo ? |
| 00:57.15 | simonrvn | !ig |
| 00:57.15 | dpkg | I heard "ig" is Installation Guide...see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual for Etch 4.0r4 stable, or http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/installmanual for now oldstable Sarge (3.1). Lenny is Testing! |
| 00:57.21 | simonrvn | jpinx: ^^^ |
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| 00:58.21 | Flinx | I updated the pastebin |
| 00:58.26 | Flinx | and attached my sources.list |
| 00:59.06 | Flinx | btw.. Jester45 and Stephen I didn't want to take you away from your other things >.<! |
| 00:59.15 | Jester45 | Flinx, edit /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/70debconf and add the line APT::Cache-Limit "16777216"; |
| 00:59.25 | Jester45 | or higher if needed |
| 00:59.37 | Jester45 | or you can clean out old packages |
| 00:59.42 | Flinx | kay |
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| 00:59.47 | Flinx | might as well do that. |
| 01:00.06 | Jester45 | aptitude autoclean |
| 01:00.16 | cweagans | does anyone know how to do a remote install of debian over ssh (when fedora is installed on the machine already) |
| 01:00.21 | Jester45 | should give you some more space |
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| 01:00.43 | Jester45 | cweagans, the debian installer has ssh build in |
| 01:00.51 | Jester45 | built* |
| 01:01.06 | Flinx | Jester45: I just ran apt-get clean and i'm still having issues |
| 01:01.15 | Flinx | goiing to mod the cache-limit now |
| 01:01.15 | cweagans | Jester45: problem being, I can't put a CD in nor will anyone at the server farm do it for me...only fedora is supported |
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| 01:02.05 | Jester45 | Flexa, if that limit doesnt help try 2x and if that doesnt help make sure your not out of diskspace |
| 01:02.24 | Jester45 | cweagans, well have fun with that |
| 01:02.57 | Jester45 | cweagans, does the machine have an extra partiton/harddrive |
| 01:03.07 | cweagans | I may be able to create one |
| 01:03.44 | Jester45 | because i dont see how you would install debian onto fedora's root while fedora is still running |
| 01:03.56 | cweagans | me neither, that's why I was asking |
| 01:04.33 | Jester45 | chroot a debian install |
| 01:04.39 | Jester45 | hehe |
| 01:05.07 | Jester45 | well im sure you could program php to do such things for you |
| 01:05.49 | dondelelcaro | you can, it's just not something that's worth anyone explaining if you don't already see how to do it. |
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| 01:06.18 | Jester45 | well on the 19 i get to start java and vb so... thats gonna s uck |
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| 01:07.25 | cweagans | dondelelcaro: was that @ me? |
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| 01:11.03 | dondelelcaro | cweagans: no, it was about Jester45's comment about installing debian onto fedora's root. |
| 01:11.25 | cweagans | gotcha. do you know how? |
| 01:11.29 | Jester45 | dondelelcaro, thats wnat cweagans wants to do |
| 01:11.46 | dondelelcaro | yes, but it's so involved that it's not really worth explaining |
| 01:12.03 | cweagans | what's the basic premise? |
| 01:12.09 | dondelelcaro | suffice to say that you install a base system in a chroot, then move stuff over in the proper order. |
| 01:12.23 | Jester45 | was thinking that |
| 01:12.25 | dondelelcaro | then reinstall, then run cruft |
| 01:12.39 | Jester45 | wasnt thinking that |
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| 01:12.50 | cweagans | agree's with Jester |
| 01:12.59 | cweagans | is completely lost |
| 01:13.06 | elif | hi I'm using debian etch with kernel ( uname -r ): 2.6.18-6-686 , I'm trying to modprobe ndiswrapper module, but It's getting fatal: (Module ndiswrapper not found). I saw a package with its sources, but in its debian package page warn that if we have a default dist. we don't actually need this package, because we would likely have the precompiled one, what should I try to modprobe it ? |
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| 01:13.30 | dondelelcaro | it's almost always not worth it; it's something that you can do, but you'll almost always waste more time than just doing a normal install. |
| 01:13.54 | cweagans | dondelelcaro: problem is, I can't do a regular install |
| 01:14.09 | cweagans | dondelelcaro: I only have root ssh access to this server |
| 01:14.30 | cweagans | dondelelcaro: and the only thing that my VPS host will install is fedora |
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| 01:16.30 | elif | I did a find -name "ndis*" on /lib/modules but didn't found it, how do I proceed with ndiswrapper-source package to actually compile and install it ? |
| 01:16.59 | cweagans | elif: do you have 'locate' installed? |
| 01:17.14 | Flinx | hrm.. |
| 01:17.20 | elif | I think I have, let me check out |
| 01:17.52 | elif | yes |
| 01:17.59 | cweagans | locate ndiswrapper |
| 01:18.11 | Flinx | I just updated alsa, and restarted it, but the loaded driver is still the old 1.0.12 |
| 01:18.16 | Flinx | how do I refresh that? |
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| 01:18.37 | elif | went silently, no output. |
| 01:18.46 | cweagans | dunno then |
| 01:18.46 | elif | what that means ? |
| 01:19.01 | cweagans | files don't exist.. |
| 01:19.46 | elif | hum... anyone can help me in the process of compile this module ndiswrapper ? I never did it. |
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| 01:20.23 | cweagans | wait, does the command ndiswrapper exist |
| 01:20.24 | cweagans | ? |
| 01:20.39 | elif | yes I installed the package os ndiswrapper |
| 01:20.45 | Jester45 | locate might not find the files if they are new correct? |
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| 01:21.30 | amphi | Jester45: right, unless you run updatedb; dpkg -L ndiswrapper will tell you what files the package installed |
| 01:21.33 | cweagans | did you install drivers with ndiswrapper? |
| 01:21.35 | grendal_prime | grrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
| 01:21.37 | grendal_prime | this is just not making any sence to me |
| 01:21.56 | grendal_prime | trying to set up xorg.conf to send to svideo out on a nividia card |
| 01:22.10 | elif | I intalled the driver (dwa-110 dlink, win2k) |
| 01:22.15 | elif | *installed |
| 01:22.21 | cweagans | dunno |
| 01:22.23 | cweagans | sorry |
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| 01:24.08 | elif | with the command: ndiswrapper -i /path/to/dot.inf |
| 01:24.44 | elif | it seemed ok with ndiswrapper -l: dr71wu driver present, hardware present |
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| 01:25.13 | elif | but when trying to modprobe it went to fatal: Module not found |
| 01:25.45 | Stephen | run |
| 01:25.46 | Stephen | depmod -a |
| 01:26.03 | Stephen | and what are you typing when you run modprobe ? |
| 01:26.31 | elif | I runned before I actually was following the tutorial on : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper |
| 01:26.49 | elif | modprobe ndiswrapper |
| 01:27.25 | elif | *ran |
| 01:27.51 | cweagans | I got my fedora box converted to debian! |
| 01:28.12 | kanzure | Hey, I'm trying to get the jdk to work. Any suggestions? |
| 01:28.13 | jpinx | I'm trying to fix a debian install in a dual boot laptop - I'm in XP and installed a ext2fs reader and can see the debian partitions. All seems to be there but the boot hangs with a message "/bin/sh: can't access tty. Job control turned off" |
| 01:28.35 | Stephen | elif: what does modinfo ndiswrapper tell you ? |
| 01:28.46 | elif | let me see |
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| 01:28.55 | kanzure | The 'appletviewer' doesn't effectively run http://java.sun.com/applets/jdk/1.4/demo/applets/GraphicsTest/GraphicsTest.java for instance. It just exits immediately without doing anything of interest. |
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| 01:29.14 | elif | modinfo: could not find module ndiswrapper |
| 01:29.27 | Stephen | try modinfo usbcore |
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| 01:30.10 | Stephen | what you ? |
| 01:30.14 | Stephen | what you get* |
| 01:30.36 | elif | it big to paste, first line: |
| 01:30.36 | elif | filename: /lib/modules/2.6.18-6-686/kernel/drivers/usb/core/usbcore.ko |
| 01:30.50 | Stephen | try "modprobe usbcore" then "modprobe ndiswrapper" |
| 01:30.59 | elif | ok |
| 01:31.43 | tyler | anyone know how i may cat recursively? |
| 01:31.44 | jpinx | can anyone help with how to repair this? |
| 01:32.00 | De_Mon | okay, I've forgotten the name of that awesome ipscanning tool again |
| 01:32.08 | elif | modprobe usbcore went silenty, modprobe ndiswrapper went the same fatal: Fatal Module ndiswrapper not found. |
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| 01:32.12 | tyler | nmap, De_Mon |
| 01:32.14 | Flinx | jpinx: what are you trying to do? |
| 01:32.19 | elif | *silently |
| 01:32.23 | Stephen | try "update-modules" |
| 01:32.27 | Stephen | you may have to reboot |
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| 01:32.34 | jpinx | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:32.40 | Stephen | then try "modprobe ndiswrapper" |
| 01:32.43 | elif | ok |
| 01:32.52 | elif | thks I will reboot now |
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| 01:33.06 | De_Mon | gah, no wonder I forgot it doesn't say ip or scan anywhere in the name |
| 01:33.10 | De_Mon | tyler thanks! |
| 01:33.13 | tyler | :) |
| 01:33.23 | Flinx | jpinx: Yeah.. that I'm not sure I'd be able to assist on >.<! |
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| 01:33.37 | jpinx | ok - thanks |
| 01:33.44 | jpinx | I'm getting desperate ;) |
| 01:33.56 | Flinx | heh |
| 01:34.05 | Flinx | maybe try to do a repair install? |
| 01:34.40 | jpinx | Flinx - that didn't work either :( |
| 01:34.45 | Flinx | Wait... |
| 01:34.51 | Flinx | hrmm |
| 01:34.54 | Flinx | I love google ;) |
| 01:35.05 | Flinx | http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/binsh-cant-access-tty-job-control-turned-off-474493/ |
| 01:35.39 | jpinx | thinks Flinx is a google expert ;) |
| 01:35.48 | Flinx | LOL! |
| 01:36.00 | Flinx | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%2Fbin%2Fsh%3A+can%27t+access+tty.+Job+control+turned+off&btnG=Search |
| 01:36.05 | Flinx | theres the original search results ;) |
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| 01:36.55 | Flinx | hope that helps |
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| 01:37.52 | elif | Stephen: I did what you told, but even after the reboot, nothing, same problem with modprobe ndiswrapper |
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| 01:40.46 | DawnLigh1 | yo |
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| 01:42.32 | elif | If I look for ndiswrapper.ko ? (A precompiled) and put it in /lib/modules/`uname-r`/net/802.11 |
| 01:42.46 | elif | its possible that to work ? |
| 01:43.02 | _ZeuZ_ | elif, that's likely to fail if the modules have not been compiled with the same version and compiler |
| 01:43.24 | _ZeuZ_ | i.e: precompiled one was compiled with cc1plus and other one with gcc, and that way it will fail |
| 01:44.40 | _ZeuZ_ | elif, but try it, the worst thing that can happen is that the kernel rejects it |
| 01:44.56 | _ZeuZ_ | and it won't cause a panic, just it will tell you that there's a problem and tatata sometjhing more |
| 01:45.07 | elif | hum, thks. But, I'm lost know with ndiswrapper, can't figure out how get this module load in kernell. |
| 01:45.21 | elif | s/know/now |
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| 01:46.40 | _ZeuZ_ | well, if you copy it where it should go, then just modprobe ndiswrapper should do... still I don't know if the modules compiled for a kernel are tainted somewhere else |
| 01:46.58 | Flinx | is perl a default package on Etch? |
| 01:47.17 | Flinx | nvm.. |
| 01:47.21 | Flinx | its a locale setting issue |
| 01:47.29 | elif | ok. I'll try to find the file in debian repos, copy it to the place and simple modprobe, maybe works... |
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| 01:48.03 | _ZeuZ_ | elif, if you're going to do that, why not try to install ndiswrapper yourself? |
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| 01:49.01 | Flinx | where do I go to set the locale information? |
| 01:49.08 | Flinx | perl: warning: Setting locale failed. |
| 01:49.09 | Flinx | perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: |
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| 01:49.09 | Flinx | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:49.46 | _ZeuZ_ | Flinx, lol, got kicked because offlooding |
| 01:49.50 | Flinx | ... |
| 01:49.54 | Flinx | yeah |
| 01:49.56 | Flinx | >.<! |
| 01:49.57 | _ZeuZ_ | Flinx, dpkg-reconfigure locale |
| 01:50.01 | Flinx | shoulda used pastebin |
| 01:50.02 | elif | yeah I thought about, but then I should take a lot of dev packages to compile and now I have only 800 Mb of free disk space, beside I never tryied to compile a module before. |
| 01:50.13 | Flinx | kk |
| 01:50.21 | _ZeuZ_ | elif, it's not hard actually |
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| 01:50.31 | _ZeuZ_ | elif, just get confy with module-assistant |
| 01:50.43 | Flinx | _ZeuZ_: |
| 01:50.45 | _ZeuZ_ | elif, and you'll need less than ~50mb |
| 01:50.46 | Flinx | ... |
| 01:50.53 | Flinx | _ZeuZ_: dpkg-reconfigure locale not found |
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| 01:51.09 | _ZeuZ_ | elif, besides, all the packages you install for compiling it can be uninstalled later |
| 01:51.18 | _ZeuZ_ | Flinx, did you run it as ROOT or with SUDO? |
| 01:51.23 | Flinx | ... |
| 01:51.26 | Flinx | no... |
| 01:51.32 | _ZeuZ_ | THEN DO! |
| 01:51.33 | Flinx | feels shamed |
| 01:51.37 | _ZeuZ_ | lol |
| 01:51.39 | _ZeuZ_ | :) |
| 01:51.53 | _ZeuZ_ | either way I don't remember if the package name is LOCALE, let'me confirm that |
| 01:52.00 | Flinx | cries out 'I AM NOT A NOOB!' |
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| 01:52.05 | Flinx | yeah |
| 01:52.11 | Flinx | it just isn't installed >.> |
| 01:52.14 | _ZeuZ_ | Flinx, the package name is LOCALES |
| 01:52.14 | elif | thks, _ZeuZ_ I'll try so, to not bore you much, can you give me some link to a tutorial on how to go with ? |
| 01:52.20 | Flinx | which is weird cause i set it up during the install |
| 01:52.27 | _ZeuZ_ | Flinx, sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 01:52.53 | _ZeuZ_ | elif, ask dpkg (the bot) using a PM (/msg dpkg ndiswrapper) |
| 01:53.13 | Flinx | yeah I just relized that >.<! |
| 01:53.25 | Flinx | It doesn't matter which en_US I use does it? |
| 01:53.32 | _ZeuZ_ | Ask for forgivness for the typo. |
| 01:53.48 | _ZeuZ_ | Flinx, wouldn't really know there as I'm a native argentinian :) |
| 01:54.19 | Flinx | its the difference between UTF8 and ISO-somethingorother |
| 01:54.46 | _ZeuZ_ | wouldnt know how to explain it... |
| 01:54.50 | _ZeuZ_ | just go for UTF8 |
| 01:54.55 | Flinx | Thats what I did |
| 01:55.06 | Flinx | kinda like throwing darts at a wall to make a choice ;) |
| 01:55.16 | _ZeuZ_ | lol |
| 01:55.30 | _ZeuZ_ | well, it's allways a safe choice, as VESA when you think a graphic card is faulty |
| 01:55.42 | Flinx | yeah |
| 01:56.01 | Flinx | SO whats Argentina like? |
| 01:56.13 | jpinx | Flinx - Hey neighbour - from Peru - this job control turned off error is really beating me up.... |
| 01:56.27 | _ZeuZ_ | for me? as my father in law doesn't like me, it's a p.i.t.a right now... |
| 01:56.38 | Flinx | _ZeuZ_: DOH! |
| 01:56.40 | _ZeuZ_ | but, either way, it's nice and easy (not this times thanks to our president) |
| 01:56.53 | Flinx | jpinx: Uhm... punch it back? |
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| 01:58.49 | jpinx | I'm trying to fix a debian install in a dual boot laptop - I'm in XP and installed a ext2fs reader and can see the debian partitions. All seems to be there but the boot hangs with a message "/bin/sh: can't access tty. Job control turned off" |
| 01:59.29 | jpinx | Flinx - the filesystem looks ok - as far as I can tell |
| 02:00.01 | _ZeuZ_ | jpinx, have you gone googlin? |
| 02:00.01 | jpinx | Flinx - Google gives lots of pages of comments, but no solutions |
| 02:00.05 | Flinx | http://www.utheguru.com/solution-ubuntu-linux-binsh-cant-access-tty-job-control-mode-off-error |
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| 02:00.11 | Flinx | not even the one that says SOLUTION? |
| 02:00.21 | cweagans | is there a good tutorial out there somewhere that details how to set up a debian web server that will host multple domains with PHP and MySQL? |
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| 02:00.49 | _ZeuZ_ | Flinx, lol |
| 02:01.00 | Flinx | and why are you dual booting? |
| 02:01.06 | Flinx | wouldn't it be easier to run a VM? |
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| 02:01.33 | Flinx | I'm going to load XP in a vm when I get my soundcard issue solved.. |
| 02:01.44 | Flinx | and I just realized I need to fix my Graphics too... |
| 02:02.24 | jpinx | Flinx - I lost an old install of Debian i was using to mirror my server |
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| 02:02.49 | Flinx | kay |
| 02:03.03 | jpinx | Flinx - and now I am in a remote village in peru with no facilites and a dodgy ethernet connection |
| 02:03.16 | jpinx | no floppy, no cd burner, etc,etc |
| 02:03.24 | jpinx | :/ |
| 02:03.36 | Flinx | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2505697 -- did you check this ? |
| 02:05.38 | jpinx | not sure what that link is referring to... |
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| 02:05.55 | MrNaz | how secure is the default debian install? is it safe to put a default debian install on the internet without any further hardening ? |
| 02:06.17 | jpinx | Flinx - and the previous solution needs a floppy - I don't have one |
| 02:06.31 | _ZeuZ_ | MrNaz, pretty much yeah |
| 02:06.56 | _ZeuZ_ | MrNaz, use arno-iptables-firewall to make it securer from the "getting inside" point |
| 02:06.59 | Flinx | jpinx: doh... |
| 02:07.15 | MrNaz | _ZeuZ_ yea coz i have no idea how to set up iptables yet (im reading the man pages and i'm finding it pretty heavy reading) |
| 02:07.57 | Flinx | jpinx: use pastebin to copy your grub menu |
| 02:08.06 | jpinx | ok |
| 02:08.27 | _ZeuZ_ | MrNaz, well, arno-iptables-firewall is pretty secure, it's default policy is DENY EVERYTHING and is in Debian repos, so go for it. |
| 02:08.42 | _ZeuZ_ | MrNaz, you can later on study arno-iptables-firewall script to get rid of doubts |
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| 02:09.39 | s3a | i used k3b to burn a disc and it says that the writing completed succesfully but the verifying didnt, so is my disc good or bad? (would checking m5d sum answer that question? if so then how do I check?) |
| 02:09.46 | s3a | the disc was debian lol |
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| 02:09.58 | elif | hum... Couldn't figure out how to do it (module-assistant is well, a bit difficult to me) , thks all for pacience and help ;-) |
| 02:09.59 | lastnode | s3a: why dont you just put the disk in and see if it reads? |
| 02:10.21 | s3a | lastnode: well it could be like 99% well burnt if u no wat i mean |
| 02:10.26 | jpinx | Flinx - it's in #flood |
| 02:10.44 | _ZeuZ_ | elif, ndiswrapper one-liner is all you need, ask DPKG |
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| 02:11.05 | lastnode | s3a: no i dont |
| 02:11.07 | Flinx | -.- can you repaste it? |
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| 02:11.17 | Flinx | I didn't join that channel until just now |
| 02:11.37 | s3a | lastnode: like if 1 important file is corrupt |
| 02:11.45 | s3a | lastnode: it happened in an xp disc for me |
| 02:12.23 | Flinx | jpinx: so far it looks like there might be something in your bootloader thats looking in the wrong spot. |
| 02:12.43 | lastnode | s3a: i dont use k3b, but it should ahve the md5 |
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| 02:13.18 | Freddie` | hello all |
| 02:14.39 | Flinx | jpinx: http://osdir.com/ml/linux.ubuntu.user.indian/2007-07/msg00038.html -- this looks almost exactly like the problem your having |
| 02:15.24 | lastnode | hi Freddie` |
| 02:15.32 | Freddie` | hi LadyNikon |
| 02:15.33 | Freddie` | ops |
| 02:15.36 | Freddie` | hi lastnode |
| 02:15.37 | Freddie` | :) |
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| 02:16.47 | Flinx | ... |
| 02:16.49 | Flinx | >.<! |
| 02:17.30 | Flinx | btw... how did apt-get obtain Super Cow powers? :P |
| 02:17.57 | Stephen | apt-get moo |
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| 02:18.16 | Freddie` | man sex # :-P |
| 02:18.20 | Stephen | yes, thanks ment to be a cow |
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| 02:18.41 | lastnode | apt-get and aptitude are not being friends |
| 02:19.01 | argonel | anyone know what's up with snapshot.debian.net? |
| 02:19.02 | Freddie` | does anyone use fetchmail/procmail here ? |
| 02:19.05 | Flinx | ... |
| 02:19.17 | lastnode | what is the current kernel ver in testing? |
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| 02:19.24 | Stephen | lastnode, thats nothing, you should see it when dpkg comes over for tea |
| 02:19.27 | stew | argonel: can you be more specific? |
| 02:19.29 | Flinx | jpinx: Use PASTEBIN! |
| 02:19.36 | Flinx | http://www.pastebin.ca/ |
| 02:19.41 | Flinx | send me the Url ;) |
| 02:19.48 | lastnode | im seeing 2.6.22-3 i that correct? |
| 02:19.54 | Flinx | and did you see the other link? |
| 02:20.01 | argonel | stew: it has not been archiving packages since may 5 2008 |
| 02:20.15 | Flinx | jpinx: http://osdir.com/ml/linux.ubuntu.user.indian/2007-07/msg00038.html -- Check this out.. dual boot with ext2 driver |
| 02:20.24 | stew | !info linux-source-2.6.25 testing |
| 02:20.46 | dpkg | linux-source-2.6.25: (Linux kernel source for version 2.6.25 with Debian patches), section devel, is optional. Version: 2.6.25-7 (lenny), Packaged size: 47391 kB, Installed size: 47516 kB |
| 02:21.22 | lastnode | stew: i dont see a compiled iamge for tha tversion though. is it just source ofr now? |
| 02:21.26 | lastnode | *for |
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| 02:22.15 | lastnode | ok stew, sorry, brainfart. :) |
| 02:22.18 | jpinx | Flinx - I'm in pastebin - but no-one else is:( |
| 02:22.33 | lastnode | jpinx: use a website - http://pastebin.ca |
| 02:22.40 | lastnode | then link the chanel |
| 02:22.46 | Flinx | yeah |
| 02:22.48 | jpinx | ok |
| 02:22.59 | Flinx | and I think I found another solution |
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| 02:23.42 | Flinx | http://ph.ubuntuforums.com/showpost.php?s=01171e5d2887eb69f85cc95e5cf566be&p=2927246&postcount=33 -- Does this make sense to you? |
| 02:23.49 | jpinx | http://pastebin.ca/1091397 |
| 02:25.46 | jpinx | Flinx - thanks that's the clearest solution yet - I'll need to reboot to try it |
| 02:25.54 | Flinx | cause so far I don;'t see anything wrong with your grub. |
| 02:25.57 | Flinx | >.<! |
| 02:26.03 | Flinx | cya in a mo ! |
| 02:26.08 | ecyrb | Is anyone in here familiar with jack? |
| 02:26.25 | MrNaz | whats the difference between dpkg and apt/aptitude ? they seem to do very similar things... why are there two ? |
| 02:26.41 | Flinx | dpkg is used to install *.deb files |
| 02:26.42 | dpkg | Flinx: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 02:26.44 | lastnode | MrNaz: you need to do some reading |
| 02:26.57 | MrNaz | lastnode i'm reading the man page for dpkg now |
| 02:27.00 | lastnode | !dpkg > MrNaz |
| 02:27.06 | Flinx | dpkg: which manual? >.> |
| 02:27.06 | dpkg | Flinx: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 02:27.12 | lastnode | ok taht doesnt work anymore? |
| 02:27.26 | _ZeuZ_ | xD |
| 02:27.48 | lastnode | MrNaz: dpkg is used to install .debs, apt-get/itude are complete pakage management tools that use dpkg |
| 02:28.09 | MrNaz | aah right |
| 02:28.13 | ecyrb | I can run jackd in realtime mode, but only as su. Does anyone know how I fix this? |
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| 02:28.22 | MrNaz | so dselect, apt and aptitude are all front ends for dpkg ? |
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| 02:31.11 | roldyx | hello |
| 02:31.23 | Nyle | MrNaz, yes |
| 02:31.38 | Nyle | even dpkg is a wrapper around dpkg-deb |
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| 02:32.03 | Flinx | neat |
| 02:32.13 | Flinx | I didn't know that. |
| 02:32.18 | Nyle | man dpkg-deb |
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| 02:33.08 | roldyx | I cant compile a kernel |
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| 02:33.47 | roldyx | I downloaded kernel source.... www.kernel.org |
| 02:34.24 | roldyx | and tar xvfj linux...... |
| 02:34.26 | lastnode | roldyx: generaly it's good to get teh kernel with debian specific patches, via apt |
| 02:34.55 | MrNaz | Nyle how do you get to the dpkg configure screen for a particular package ? |
| 02:35.27 | roldyx | lastnode: well.. I always compile my kernel without problem |
| 02:35.56 | roldyx | from 2.2.x |
| 02:35.57 | Nyle | MrNaz, which package? |
| 02:35.59 | roldyx | hehehe |
| 02:36.07 | MrNaz | arno-iptables-firewall |
| 02:36.11 | roldyx | lastnode: look my problem |
| 02:36.14 | MrNaz | i want to add ports to the open list |
| 02:36.22 | Nyle | MrNaz, which package? |
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| 02:36.31 | MrNaz | Nyle arno-iptables-firewall |
| 02:36.34 | roldyx | /usr/src/linux-2.6.26# make menuconfig |
| 02:36.35 | roldyx | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:36.35 | roldyx | scripts/basic/fixdep.c: In function âuse_configâ: |
| 02:36.35 | roldyx | scripts/basic/fixdep.c:206: error: âPATH_MAXâ undeclared (first use in this function) |
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| 02:36.38 | lastnode | roldyx: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch08s06.html.en has a good guide |
| 02:36.48 | lastnode | lol |
| 02:36.52 | Nyle | MrNaz, what is in /usr/share/doc/arno-iptables-firewall |
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| 02:36.57 | lastnode | he's crazy |
| 02:37.03 | roldyx | shit |
| 02:37.07 | roldyx | sorry |
| 02:37.09 | lastnode | roldyx: if youar elooking for general kernel tips ##kernel imo |
| 02:37.24 | roldyx | lastnode: oks thanks |
| 02:37.30 | lastnode | or ##linux |
| 02:37.33 | lastnode | gl |
| 02:37.38 | Nyle | MrNaz, look at some read me files to see more info, other than that, you can just as easily edit the config file, but to answer your question I imagine its 'dpkg-reconfigure <package name> |
| 02:37.41 | MrNaz | Nyle a changelog and an example |
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| 02:38.50 | MrNaz | Nyle unknown option |
| 02:39.16 | Nyle | MrNaz, what command did you run |
| 02:39.37 | MrNaz | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:39.37 | dpkg | MrNaz: bugger all, i dunno |
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| 02:40.14 | Nyle | MrNaz, dpkg-reconfigure |
| 02:40.22 | MrNaz | oh |
| 02:40.28 | MrNaz | not a param |
| 02:40.29 | MrNaz | thanks |
| 02:41.01 | ecyrb | I can run an application as root / su, but it doesn't run as a normal user... Is there a way to fix this? |
| 02:41.17 | Nyle | ecyrb, which application |
| 02:41.27 | ecyrb | Nyle: jackd |
| 02:41.37 | Nyle | ecyrb, why do you want to run it as user? |
| 02:42.03 | Nyle | ecyrb, /etc/init.d/jack(or jackd) start|stop|restart |
| 02:42.06 | ecyrb | Nyle: so I don't have to run it as root... |
| 02:42.10 | Nyle | I think |
| 02:42.12 | Nyle | ecyrb, why not? |
| 02:42.12 | micky | hello, i've setup a testing envrionment composed of 5 virtual machines ( 3 linux servers and 2 linux clients ) - see http://nowlive.ro/micky/network_diagram.jpg , the problem i'm facing is ip routing, i've tried adding static network routes on the main server but it seems not to do the job, could you give me some pointers on this ? thanks, |
| 02:44.34 | ecyrb | Nyle: jackd isn't a typical /etc/init.d application.... it sits on top of alsa and allows you to connect a bunch of synthesizers and stuff to it |
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| 02:44.44 | ecyrb | Nyle: it's more of a userspace application |
| 02:44.45 | elif | _ZeuZ_: your suggestion did work, one-liner installed the module. From dmesg I saw its in version 1.28, I don't know if that caused the issue that it didn't work, lsusb see my card, ndiswrapper -l recognize my installed driver (which I took from cd vendor- Xp driver as suggested in the list of ndiswrapper.sourceforge) but ifconfig or iwconfig don't see the interface, maybe another module should be modprobe for basic wireless ? |
| 02:45.23 | cweagans | is there an easy way to install ISPconfig on a debian installation? I found the 'perfect setup' guide on howto-forge, but it's assuming that I am installing Debian. |
| 02:45.27 | _ZeuZ_ | elif, Currently I'm playing flatout2 |
| 02:45.30 | cweagans | (instead of using preinstalled) |
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| 02:46.00 | elif | ok, thks _ZeuZ_ you already helped me a lot. |
| 02:46.34 | cweagans | elif: for sure, you modprobe ndiswrapper |
| 02:46.46 | cweagans | you could also try ifconfig wlan0 up |
| 02:46.46 | ecyrb | Nyle: I can actually run it as a normal user.... but when I try to run it in "real-time" mode that's when I can only run as a super-user. |
| 02:46.57 | curtmack | Okay, I've been using testing for a while, but I think some of my recent issues with stability may have been caused by it. How massive an undertaking is it to completely shift from testing back to stable? |
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| 02:47.22 | cweagans | curtmack: dl cd, burn, install =D |
| 02:47.56 | curtmack | cweagans: I was hoping for a method that didn't require clearing my HDD |
| 02:48.06 | cweagans | ah. dunno then |
| 02:48.19 | curtmack | or is there a way to skip the partition step? I've never figured it out if there is |
| 02:48.40 | Nyle | dinner time |
| 02:48.45 | elif | cweagans, modprove ndiswrapper went silently echo $? showed 0, but ifconfig get an error, it doesn't see the interface. (wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: Dispositivo Inexistente) |
| 02:48.45 | Nyle | later folks |
| 02:49.11 | curtmack | even if you tell it to use exactly the same settings as you already have on the drive it'll still repartition everything anyway just out of spite |
| 02:50.32 | curtmack | so anyway, anyone have any ideas? like, would changing sources.list and running apt-get install build-essential work? |
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| 02:59.50 | sly007 | I have my custom kernel which I compiled with /dev/rtc0 support, udev does not create the entry although I have the RTC interface /sys/class/rtc/rtc0 entry. On the debian generic kernel, udev does create the /dev/rtc0. How is this possible? |
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| 02:59.54 | sly007 | Also, my custom kernel doesn't automatically make my eth0 interface up, I have to "ifup eth0" at boot, while udev does make the interface up duringn boot. |
| 02:59.58 | sly007 | What did I miss in my custom kernel configuration that make udev behave differently? |
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| 03:07.07 | roldyx | sly007: what do you distribution use? |
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| 03:07.45 | roldyx | sly007: look at /etc/udev/ |
| 03:07.46 | sly007 | roldyx: Debian |
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| 03:07.55 | roldyx | and config udev |
| 03:08.49 | Vi^3PP | im having a dcopclient error in kde 3.5.9 with lenny and it just started in the past couple of days... does anyone know how to troubleshoot this at all.. it is complaining about authentication rejections, and not supported protocols |
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| 03:09.36 | roldyx | Vi^3PP: and? |
| 03:09.42 | Vi^3PP | kde wont start |
| 03:09.50 | sly007 | roldyx: but why does eveything work when I use the debian generic kernel and they do not when I use the custom kernel? I mean they work, but differently: eth0 is not up automatically, and .dev.rtc0 is not automatically created. Changing the kernel doesn't change the udev rules, so there must me a missing kernel configuration setting, isn"t it? |
| 03:09.55 | Vi^3PP | i can get to kdm login and then it chokes |
| 03:10.05 | Vi^3PP | after inputting user and password |
| 03:11.30 | Vi^3PP | the specific err message that im getting is on posts that are 5 yrs old and there was not any resolution i could see on them |
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| 03:12.50 | roldyx | well, but debian kernel have a lot of patches |
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| 03:14.50 | roldyx | sly007: are you sure that the kernel is good custom?? |
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| 03:16.28 | roldyx | Vi^3PP: then do you cant change the user password? |
| 03:16.58 | Vi^3PP | the user password is fine... kde wont start after inputting the user/passwd in kdm |
| 03:17.05 | Vi^3PP | dcop barfs |
| 03:17.14 | roldyx | aahhh ok |
| 03:17.30 | Vi^3PP | dcopserver gives authentication errors and unsupported protocol errs |
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| 03:17.49 | Vi^3PP | ive tried uninstalling kde-core, reinstalling, dpkg-reconfigure |
| 03:17.49 | roldyx | sorry.. wait.. Roldyx thinking.. |
| 03:17.54 | Vi^3PP | and nothing it working |
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| 03:18.06 | SnakeO2 | is there a way to apt-get PHP+MySQL? |
| 03:18.17 | SnakeO2 | cause my PHP configuation currently doesn't have MySQL |
| 03:18.18 | Vi^3PP | php5 |
| 03:18.20 | SnakeO2 | yeah |
| 03:18.27 | Vi^3PP | just install it |
| 03:18.30 | SnakeO2 | i have PHP5.2, but no Mysql :( |
| 03:18.38 | pickcoder | apt-cache search |
| 03:18.38 | SnakeO2 | ok and it will configure it for php automatically? |
| 03:18.38 | Vi^3PP | install mysql |
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| 03:18.55 | pickcoder | it's not that hard to search for something and install it |
| 03:18.58 | roldyx | Vi^3PP: mv <user home> and create a new directory |
| 03:19.04 | Vi^3PP | mysql-common 5.0.51a-9+lenny2 |
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| 03:19.23 | JordiGH | How do I set up ssh keys? A fellow tinfoil hatter wants to give me access to his remote machine, and only to me. There's a way to give him a lock that he can put on his system and to which I have the key, right? |
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| 03:19.39 | SnakeO2 | "E: Couldn't find package mysql" |
| 03:19.40 | roldyx | maybe you have setting some wrong |
| 03:19.57 | pickcoder | JordiGH: there are a lot of examples for client key on google |
| 03:20.04 | JordiGH | pickcoder: What am I looking for? |
| 03:20.39 | roldyx | SnakeO2: mysql server?? |
| 03:20.52 | Nyle | hey |
| 03:20.54 | Nyle | back |
| 03:20.58 | Nyle | !ping |
| 03:20.58 | dpkg | pong |
| 03:21.13 | pickcoder | JordiGH: password-less ssh |
| 03:21.15 | roldyx | SnakeO2: apt-get install mysql-server-5.0 |
| 03:21.37 | Vi^3PP | same err on anothe account too roldyx .... could not read network connection list ... /home/blah/.DCOPserver_hostname__0 |
| 03:21.58 | Nyle | hey JordiGH pickcoder SnakeO2 roldyx Vi^3PP |
| 03:21.58 | JordiGH | pickcoder: But that's not exactly what I want, is it? I want to set a password; I just don't want to transmit this password over the network. Is this possible? Something like just sending him the salt? |
| 03:22.08 | Vi^3PP | hi Nyle |
| 03:22.21 | JordiGH | Nyle: What's with the friendliness? |
| 03:22.23 | Nyle | hey I have to make a ssh passwordless |
| 03:22.26 | pickcoder | JordiGH: I have no clue. I've only configured remote keys |
| 03:22.27 | Nyle | how are you doing! |
| 03:22.28 | Nyle | I'm drunk |
| 03:22.48 | Vi^3PP | >> wishes he was but its a work night |
| 03:22.50 | Vi^3PP | lol |
| 03:23.06 | Nyle | I want my laptop to access my desktop without password on ssh. how do I do this |
| 03:23.09 | pickcoder | JordiGH: why doesn't he just setup a VPN and give you a cer+key for access |
| 03:23.27 | Vi^3PP | drunk and setting up ssh are not good combos Nyle |
| 03:23.36 | Vi^3PP | but you can do rsa keys with no passwords |
| 03:23.44 | Nyle | do I copy laptop's ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub to desktop's ~/.ssh/authorized_keys2 |
| 03:23.49 | Nyle | I have the keys already generated |
| 03:23.52 | JordiGH | pickcoder: It's for a Dreamhost account... admittedly he could just setup the password and tell me what it is over the internet, but for theoretical purposes, I'm interested to know how to do this securely. |
| 03:23.55 | Nyle | I just wondering which key goes where |
| 03:24.06 | Vi^3PP | each key goes in each ~ |
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| 03:24.07 | Nyle | last time I got drunk I logged into the wrong server and reinstalled it |
| 03:24.14 | Vi^3PP | yes you cat it to the auth file |
| 03:24.16 | lastnode | rofl |
| 03:24.19 | stevedondley | hi, I'm using munin to monitor my server's memory. Which kind of memory do I need to keep any eye on? There's apps/page_tables/swap_cache/committed/ etc. |
| 03:24.26 | cweagans | how do I change the hostname of my debian server? |
| 03:24.34 | Nyle | cweagans, man hostname |
| 03:24.34 | Jester45 | apps and committed |
| 03:24.39 | Nyle | cweagans, /etc/hostname |
| 03:24.42 | Nyle | !hostname |
| 03:24.42 | dpkg | use hostname <hostname> to set the hostname, $EDITOR /etc/hostname to set it for the next boot, and $EDITOR /etc/hosts to set the FQDN, or create /etc/hostname if it doesn't exist, or 'man 1 hostname' , or see /etc/mailname |
| 03:24.42 | JordiGH | !hostname |
| 03:24.45 | lastnode | cweagans: /etc/hostname |
| 03:24.48 | lastnode | meh lag |
| 03:24.49 | lastnode | :) |
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| 03:24.54 | Nyle | !lost JordiGH |
| 03:24.57 | pickcoder | JordiGH: how do you expect to get the key? |
| 03:25.00 | pickcoder | snailmail? |
| 03:25.02 | roldyx | Nyle: sorry, I dont remember.. but it is very easy.. |
| 03:25.03 | Nyle | but seriously |
| 03:25.04 | Nyle | ok |
| 03:25.10 | cweagans | I change the value of /etc/hostname from 'localhost' to 'vh1.mydomain.com', but when I reboot, it gets reset to localhost |
| 03:25.12 | Nyle | I'll try |
| 03:25.19 | Vi^3PP | pidgin supports encryptiong or you can mail it under gpg |
| 03:25.20 | Vi^3PP | ;) |
| 03:25.46 | JordiGH | pickcoder: I dunno. Seems simple, I send him the password salt; he puts that salt in /etc/shadow or wherever, and tada, I have access. Doesn't ssh have an equivalent? |
| 03:25.59 | Nyle | dude |
| 03:26.05 | roldyx | cweagans: hostaname <hostname> |
| 03:26.25 | Nyle | I just ssh into my laptop, and I typed ping desktop, and it says there is no route to host, and in /etc/hosts I have 192.168.1.150 desktop |
| 03:26.34 | Nyle | so it should work, but it doesn't, what to do |
| 03:26.37 | roldyx | cweagans: cat /etc/hostname |
| 03:26.48 | cweagans | still says localhost |
| 03:26.59 | Jester45 | Nyle, try to ping 192.168.1.150 |
| 03:27.12 | Nyle | 64 bytes from laptop (192.168.1.200): icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.274 ms |
| 03:27.17 | Jester45 | if that fails you have a network problem |
| 03:27.19 | Nyle | From 192.168.1.200 icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable |
| 03:27.19 | roldyx | Nyle: ping 192.168.1.150 works? |
| 03:27.25 | Nyle | this is retarded |
| 03:27.28 | Nyle | heh |
| 03:27.54 | Jester45 | your computer is replying to itself? |
| 03:27.57 | Nyle | .200 can't ping .150, but .150 can ping .200 (I can ssh from 150 to 200, but not from 200 to 150) |
| 03:28.20 | roldyx | Nyle: ip r |
| 03:28.25 | pickcoder | JordiGH: I dunno |
| 03:28.26 | Jester45 | your netmask is messed up |
| 03:28.29 | roldyx | and paste here |
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| 03:28.39 | roldyx | routing problem |
| 03:29.04 | pickcoder | ugh.. the girls woke up again |
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| 03:29.16 | roldyx | desc topologi network |
| 03:29.21 | Jester45 | isnt that caussed by .150 being on 200's network but 200 no being on 150's |
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| 03:29.43 | roldyx | I am tired... |
| 03:29.48 | Vi^3PP | im getting nowwhere with this docp thing |
| 03:29.49 | Vi^3PP | blah |
| 03:30.09 | lfs | An application loaded Gecko onto my computer and I think I am having trouble with it. |
| 03:30.17 | lfs | How do I get rid of it? |
| 03:30.27 | roldyx | Vi^3PP: install Windows XP! hahahah |
| 03:30.38 | Vi^3PP | blah |
| 03:30.56 | Vi^3PP | this is first time in 6 yrs ive ever had problem with kde |
| 03:31.10 | Vi^3PP | and the kde channel is not any help |
| 03:31.20 | Vi^3PP | and i cant find any solutions on google |
| 03:31.30 | roldyx | Vi^3PP: i have 9 year using KDE!! |
| 03:31.47 | roldyx | and never have problem!! |
| 03:31.52 | Jester45 | go back to 3.9 |
| 03:31.58 | roldyx | I am lier |
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| 03:32.24 | Jester45 | sets channel limit to 1 |
| 03:32.40 | mhymn | lfs: "killall gecko" might help, try it |
| 03:32.52 | cweagans | heh..../kick * Reason: because. |
| 03:32.59 | mhymn | Vi^3PP: and #debian-kde ??? |
| 03:33.15 | stevedondley | can someone take a look at this munin readout and translate it for me: http://img113.imageshack.us/my.php?image=charliesndserverscommemra3.png |
| 03:33.48 | stevedondley | it looks like the committed memory is over 16GB but the server is running fine |
| 03:34.47 | Jester45 | lol what program did you close when mem dropped down a few gigs |
| 03:35.30 | stevedondley | Jester45: I don't know |
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| 03:35.55 | stevedondley | Jester45: so is this server at capacity right now? |
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| 03:36.22 | StealthCP | I am running Debian Lenny, and I need to use 915resolution to patch the video bios to allow me to get a resolution of 800x480 on the console |
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| 03:36.26 | Jester45 | the commited memory is memory the amount of memory that would be used if all the memory that's been allocated were to be used |
| 03:36.38 | StealthCP | I've heard that 915resolution has been removed and is no longer needed - is this true? |
| 03:36.44 | StealthCP | If so, what is the solution now? |
| 03:36.44 | stevedondley | Jester45: ok |
| 03:36.53 | Jester45 | so some program might be allocating lots just not using it |
| 03:37.20 | stevedondley | Jester45: so which kind of memory here is important? |
| 03:37.29 | mhymn | !915resolution |
| 03:37.29 | dpkg | from memory, 915resolution is a tool to transiently modify the video BIOS of 8xx and 9xx Intel integrated graphic chipsets, to achieve certain display resolutions in Xorg/XFree86. After installing, read /usr/share/doc/915resolution/README.Debian for details. Not required on lenny/testing, see bug #484251. |
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| 03:37.50 | Flinx | I'm not sure what I did |
| 03:37.53 | Vi^3PP | mhymn, didnt know there was a debian kde |
| 03:37.56 | Vi^3PP | i can check there |
| 03:38.05 | Flinx | but I can no longer log into my Debian system |
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| 03:38.06 | cweagans | I can't change my hostname. Can someone help? |
| 03:38.08 | stevedondley | Jester45: oh, that memory drop happened just aftera cron job when by server backs up the dbs |
| 03:38.09 | Vi^3PP | im on kde 3.5.9 in lenny |
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| 03:38.34 | Jester45 | with that there seems to be a program that is "leaking" its allocated memory, its allocates it then forgets that it did so or never frees it |
| 03:38.41 | StealthCP | mhymn, that is when used with Xorg/XFree86. I do not run an X server. |
| 03:39.05 | Jester45 | its its not a bad leak that will take you server down |
| 03:39.14 | roldyx | well good bye people! |
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| 03:39.26 | Jester45 | unless it stays leaking lots and lots for a while |
| 03:39.30 | StealthCP | as far as I'm aware vga=something does not have an option for the resolution of 800x480, which is why 915resolution was needed, for this purpose |
| 03:39.45 | StealthCP | if it has been removed there is obviously another method |
| 03:40.30 | mhymn | StealthCP: dunno, a good idea would be to read that bug |
| 03:41.19 | roldyx | Vi^3PP: Try with KDE4! Its cool!! I love KDE4! |
| 03:41.39 | Flinx | when I log into my system through the graphical console it seems to accept the login, and then stops loading |
| 03:41.52 | roldyx | dolphy powa! |
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| 03:42.10 | Vi^3PP | i like konqueror roldyx |
| 03:42.27 | Vi^3PP | kde4 is not in lenny either |
| 03:42.30 | roldyx | Vi^3PP: me too, me too! |
| 03:42.49 | roldyx | lenny its frozen |
| 03:43.22 | roldyx | try with debian Sid :D |
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| 03:43.31 | Jester45 | stevedondley, mainly just apps, if the red(buffers) grows alot then you might have a I/O bottleneck. |
| 03:44.39 | StealthCP | mhymn, I have indeed. They keep referencing to an xserver indel driver package which I would not have installed - it is plainly obvious I do not run X, as previously mentioned |
| 03:45.01 | StealthCP | I was wondering what the workaround to THIS problem was, not a slightly related one |
| 03:45.09 | StealthCP | but thanks for your help |
| 03:45.17 | mhymn | np ;) |
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| 03:46.00 | Kebab_King | kde4 is kinda flawed at the moment |
| 03:46.21 | stevedondley | Jester45: ok, thanks, man |
| 03:46.31 | Kebab_King | and lacks of the functionality of kde 3. but it's going to be great. |
| 03:46.34 | stevedondley | Jester45: so it looks like I'm perfectly ok |
| 03:46.41 | Jester45 | yea |
| 03:46.56 | Jester45 | idk what you would need all that gigs for but... |
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| 03:47.08 | Jester45 | its all yours to play with ") |
| 03:47.35 | stevedondley | Jester45: my server is taking about 80 accesses a second, wonder how that compares to a slashdotting |
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| 03:48.08 | crack_head | hello everyone |
| 03:48.27 | crack_head | I just installed debian...I was wondering how I can change it to use test |
| 03:48.33 | crack_head | ..instead of stable |
| 03:48.44 | Kebab_King | stevedondley, consider installing a reverse proxy like varnish |
| 03:49.05 | stevedondley | Kebab_King: what will that do for me? |
| 03:49.30 | Kebab_King | cache content |
| 03:49.32 | crack_head | actually....I was wondering how to install bash-completion...I tried apt-get install bash-completion but no go |
| 03:49.35 | Kebab_King | is your site php based? |
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| 03:49.48 | crack_head | I was thinking that bash-completion is only available in test |
| 03:49.51 | stevedondley | Kebab_King: yeah, running fastcgi |
| 03:49.52 | crack_head | is that true |
| 03:50.08 | stevedondley | Kebab_King: well, drupal is already caching for me |
| 03:50.13 | Kebab_King | there is a nice opcode cache for php. the package is called "php-xcache" |
| 03:50.54 | Jester45 | stevedondley, hate to break this to you but a dedicated reverse proxy will be better than a php script |
| 03:50.58 | jescis | Hey guys, tty5 has no curser. I think it has to do with moc(music on console) giving me a fatal error :/ |
| 03:51.30 | Jester45 | but that doesnt mean you need one |
| 03:51.42 | stevedondley | Jester45: ok |
| 03:51.58 | Kebab_King | stevedondley, ibm has a very nice tutorial about speeding php apps: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/views/opensource/libraryview.jsp?search_by=make+php+apps+fast |
| 03:52.18 | stevedondley | Jester45: what kind of cache issues are there with that, I wonder |
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| 03:52.38 | Kebab_King | it has been useful very to me. you can test your server performance with firebug + yslow firefox extensions |
| 03:52.47 | Jester45 | issues with the php way ? or a dedicated |
| 03:53.48 | Jester45 | the first i think of is that the php script might not keep a database for the cache... and a large cache might not be much faster |
| 03:54.31 | Jester45 | and i also compress but my servers cpu isnt being overloaded |
| 03:54.58 | Kebab_King | there is also a very fast server called nginx |
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| 03:55.27 | Kebab_King | a very good alternative to lighttpd |
| 03:55.43 | Kebab_King | but less mature |
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| 04:03.32 | JordiGH | Is it possible snoop on random email conversations? |
| 04:03.41 | JordiGH | Or do I have to be an ISP? |
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| 04:04.55 | SnakeO2 | /proc/acpi/event: Device or resource busy |
| 04:04.57 | SnakeO2 | what does that mean? |
| 04:05.02 | jescis | JordiGH, even ISPs shouldn't be snooping at anyones e-mails. that's invasion of privacy. |
| 04:05.16 | SnakeO2 | can i force it to become 'un-busy' ? |
| 04:05.17 | JordiGH | jescis: I'm not talking if it's legal or ethical to do so. Just if it's easy to do so. |
| 04:05.41 | SnakeO2 | its also easy to drop a bullet in a gun and pull the trigger |
| 04:05.53 | JordiGH | So it is easy to snoop on email? |
| 04:06.27 | mhymn | crack_head: /msg dpkg etch->lenny |
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| 04:07.41 | jescis | JordiGH, I think it would depend on the software. :/ |
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| 04:08.07 | Jester45 | humm |
| 04:08.35 | Jester45 | im trying to run perl but it just opens a new blank line and sits |
| 04:09.13 | Kebab_King | JordiGH, mail content can have different encodings... first of all you'll need to capture traffic by using a sniffer (the most difficult step) and then code some mail client capable of recognizing individual parts of a multipart message, considering their different encodings and types. so, it's very unlikely to do if you have not access to their network |
| 04:09.45 | Jester45 | JordiGH, if you have access to the mail server then yes it would be as easy as opening a text document as thats how lots of emails are sent |
| 04:09.49 | Kebab_King | and the most important thing: it's not correct to do it. |
| 04:09.56 | gribozavr | Jester45: did you expect a pthon-like REPL? no, it is not built-in for perl |
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| 04:10.55 | JordiGH | Could, for example, a disgruntled employee at Comcast be able to snoop on email? |
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| 04:11.04 | Jester45 | gribozavr, well the scipt has print "why doesnt this work" |
| 04:11.23 | Jester45 | but nothing shows up and its executable |
| 04:11.47 | Jester45 | JordiGH, are you disgrutled? |
| 04:11.48 | Kebab_King | for example a mail part can be plaintext, octetstream, or base64 encoded, using iso-8859-1, utf-8, cp1252, koi8-r... it's a huge party. |
| 04:12.04 | gribozavr | well, if perl doen't exit so you don't get a shell prompt, then script is running |
| 04:12.16 | Jester45 | but it should print |
| 04:12.16 | gribozavr | it could be waiting for some input, for example... |
| 04:12.42 | gribozavr | can you pastebin it? |
| 04:12.51 | Jester45 | o silly me |
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| 04:13.05 | Jester45 | i saved the script as perl |
| 04:13.22 | Jester45 | not thinking calling perl was really running /usr/bin/perl |
| 04:13.24 | Jester45 | hehe |
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| 04:14.05 | Jester45 | i go side tracked and looked at my terminal and was thinking... why did i try perl directly wasnt i trying the script |
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| 04:14.53 | PorkSoda | Any one have experience running x11vnc via SSL? Similar to the following: x11vnc -forever -usepw -ssl SAVE -httpdir /usr/share/vnc-java/ -noxdamage |
| 04:14.55 | Titi | Hello friends, I am using the Samba for a WinXP network access, where I am editing some PHP files with WinXP EditPlus/Notepad SW. The problem is when I save the UTF-8 file, in the browser result I have there some unwanted chars, like "Ä»ż". I can see that chars after reloading the document as an ASCII. Thank you for any idea, how to solve this problem. |
| 04:15.15 | PorkSoda | I can conne3ct with a vnc viewer directly, over ssh,, and via normal non secure http java applet.. With https, it asks for the cert, sends/accepts it etc, and the password dialog pops up, but when I enter it, I get a connection refused error. |
| 04:15.57 | Kebab_King | Titi, sounds like a charset problem. use utf-8 |
| 04:16.26 | PorkSoda | "java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused: connect" |
| 04:16.51 | Titi | Kebab_King, of a document? |
| 04:17.03 | SnakeO2 | hmm, can I apt-get install php5 with mySQL? |
| 04:17.09 | SnakeO2 | cuase right now its' not myssql |
| 04:17.13 | SnakeO2 | its just PHP5 |
| 04:17.46 | Kebab_King | yes Titi |
| 04:18.00 | Kebab_King | SnakeO2, apt-get install php5-mysql |
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| 04:18.52 | Kebab_King | you should also try php5-xdebug (if you are developing a web site using php). it provides more debugging information. |
| 04:19.19 | Titi | Kebab_King, I tried, but in this encoding I cant see that chars in the begining and in the browser I have there some PHP warns as: Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by |
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| 04:20.29 | Titi | Kebab_King maybe some SW on the debian server is wrong, of bad settings. Any idea? |
| 04:20.34 | Kebab_King | Titi, i'm not familiar with the editor, but i've had similar problems. have you tried another editor like notepad++ ? |
| 04:21.19 | Jester45 | Titi, php is just text. but once the txt file has be converted to the %sj2$3 caracters they dont "just" go back the programs that be smart about it |
| 04:21.34 | Jester45 | scite might also do the trick for you |
| 04:21.38 | Titi | Kebab_King not now, just notePad and Editplus, problem is the same. But I like the EditPlus in all the way for editing the scripts |
| 04:21.39 | SnakeO2 | Krbab_King: you're a fucking livesaver |
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| 04:22.20 | lazarus477 | Hello folks |
| 04:22.52 | Kebab_King | Titi, http://www.nabble.com/Edit-Plus-w--Unicode-and-ANSI--td17214598.html |
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| 04:23.23 | jescis | !php5-mysql |
| 04:23.23 | dpkg | php5-mysql is probably a MySQL module for php5 |
| 04:23.59 | SnakeO2 | anyone know of a simple bandwidth monitor I can install via apt-get? |
| 04:24.10 | SnakeO2 | i just want to be able to specify a network interface and get back kb/sec |
| 04:24.16 | SnakeO2 | for send/recieve |
| 04:24.25 | SnakeO2 | sorry for my lameness btw |
| 04:24.25 | lazarus477 | I am the proud owner of an NVIDIA GForce2 GTS! I finally got around to trying to get DRI running with the nvidia-kernel-legacy and nvidia-glx-legacy packages, no go....... I tried compiling it from source but that did not work out to well and I also downgraded my kernel to 2.6.18 without any better results. |
| 04:24.27 | pickcoder | iptraf for live stats |
| 04:24.36 | pickcoder | mrtg for historical |
| 04:24.52 | Kebab_King | etherape |
| 04:25.07 | pickcoder | good luck configuring mrtg, if you can't figure out php+mysql |
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| 04:25.13 | coffee1 | behold, my debian army |
| 04:25.14 | pickcoder | :P |
| 04:25.17 | SnakeO2 | mrtg? |
| 04:25.17 | coffee1 | i am both mighty and great |
| 04:25.30 | Kebab_King | drinks coffee1 |
| 04:25.36 | jescis | added the php5-mysql info to dpkg o/ |
| 04:25.37 | coffee1 | and now Kebab_King is now mighty and great |
| 04:25.41 | Titi | Kebab_King, hmm that look to use an Unicode? |
| 04:25.42 | coffee1 | but i am the best |
| 04:25.47 | lazarus477 | I am running Debian Lenny. Does anyone know if it has a current problem with the nvidia legacy packages? |
| 04:26.12 | pickcoder | I thought nvidia was being pulled |
| 04:26.12 | Kebab_King | lazarus477, have you tried the modules available via module-assistant? |
| 04:26.15 | lazarus477 | When I try installing nvidia-glx-legacy it removes xorg! |
| 04:27.10 | lazarus477 | I beleive so. I used module assistant m-a while going through the debian nvidia wiki. It instructed me to use module assistant to build and install the driver. |
| 04:27.17 | lazarus477 | But for me this failed during build time. |
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| 04:27.35 | pickcoder | lazarus477: pastebin the build errors |
| 04:28.15 | lazarus477 | Dont get me wrong but I am pretty much pooped. I have been at this for a whole day |
| 04:28.42 | pickcoder | so why come in here asking about it? |
| 04:28.55 | PorkSoda | Ok, well another one. |
| 04:28.55 | Kebab_King | lazarus477, to use module-assistant you need to use the "prepare" feature first. then select the "nvidia-kernel-legacy" module and install it. |
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| 04:29.12 | PorkSoda | Do you guys know any tricks that may bring a running app back to the foreground. A program I'm running, say "xchat"'s tab on gnome-toolbar disappeared, and now I am unable to recover it although it is still running correctly in the background, killall gnome-panel/metacity --replace/ tab + alt do not work. |
| 04:29.49 | lazarus477 | aha |
| 04:29.49 | pickcoder | PorkSoda: what does ps say about the pid |
| 04:30.04 | lazarus477 | I did the preparing then compiling... |
| 04:30.19 | Kebab_King | or type "pidof xchat" in a terminal |
| 04:30.24 | coffee1 | lazarus477 why are you compiling a kernel? |
| 04:30.28 | lazarus477 | I missed the part where I was also suposed to use the nvidia kernel package |
| 04:30.37 | pickcoder | coffee1: he's not |
| 04:30.37 | lazarus477 | good question |
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| 04:30.52 | coffee1 | lazarus477 i'm told you're not, and you say good question.. i'm still not sure what you're doing atm |
| 04:31.08 | lazarus477 | Originally I was running debian kernel 2.6.25 which appears to be incompatible with the nvidia packages |
| 04:31.08 | pickcoder | module-assistant builds modules |
| 04:31.15 | pickcoder | make-kpkg builds kernel packages |
| 04:31.28 | coffee1 | lazarus477 i'm sure windows handles your video card just fine |
| 04:31.34 | lazarus477 | Forgive me, please. |
| 04:31.37 | Kebab_King | lazarus477, check the available kernel packages by using "apt-cache search linux-image" |
| 04:31.50 | lazarus477 | Already have |
| 04:32.22 | coffee1 | lazarus477 have you tried using windows for your video card problems? |
| 04:32.24 | lazarus477 | I have set up nvidia cards a few times in the past and goten them working on Ubuntu,Debian Etch, Lenny and Gentoo. |
| 04:32.31 | pickcoder | coffee1: do you have a question? |
| 04:32.32 | Kebab_King | then what is the problem.. m-a prepare; m-a a-i nvidia-kernel-legacy |
| 04:32.44 | lazarus477 | Is that an insult or a sugestion? lol |
| 04:32.46 | coffee1 | pickcoder i'm not sure if you could tell by the "?" sign at the end of what i just wrote |
| 04:32.47 | PorkSoda | ps -e | grep xchat and pidof both show it is running. |
| 04:32.54 | pickcoder | about debian |
| 04:32.59 | coffee1 | pickcoder but i'm not talking to you, so i don't believe you can help me. thanks anyway. |
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| 04:33.50 | PorkSoda | This is pissing me off. I think it is a wine problem actually |
| 04:34.01 | PorkSoda | Only happens to apps under wine |
| 04:34.02 | PorkSoda | blah |
| 04:34.14 | pickcoder | PorkSoda: you're running xchat under wine? |
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| 04:34.24 | coffee1 | lazarus477 try it out ;) maybe better than spending away an entire saturday afternoon.. although the FOSS community would love you to think that you're simply not intelligent unless you can solve every problem by recompiling your kernel. alternatives exist ;) |
| 04:34.25 | lazarus477 | Coffee1. For the past 12 hours I have done plenty on this. First I started out with trying to get DRI working with the linux 2.6.25 kernel but soon found out that the prebuilt nvidia packages in apt were incompatible and so I would either need to downgrade my kernel or build my own nvidia driver. I tried both. |
| 04:34.55 | pickcoder | coffee1: stop trolling please |
| 04:34.59 | lazarus477 | Well I shall reread that wiki and give it another shot when I got the time. |
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| 04:35.07 | coffee1 | pickcoder im suggesting lazarus477 try an obvious alternative, and helping him with his problem |
| 04:35.14 | lazarus477 | I came here to find out what others had to say on the matter. |
| 04:35.16 | pickcoder | coffee1: no.. you're not |
| 04:35.27 | PorkSoda | no. |
| 04:35.52 | coffee1 | pickcoder have you helped him solve this problem? |
| 04:36.15 | Jester45 | lol coffee1 your a joke |
| 04:36.33 | lazarus477 | Now my latest issue is this. If I install nvidia-glx-legacy then it removes the xserver-xorg package, baaaad! |
| 04:36.55 | Jester45 | who needs X anyways |
| 04:37.02 | PorkSoda | A bot I'm testing under wine, that I wrote in Perl -> perl2exe :/ |
| 04:37.03 | PorkSoda | I need x |
| 04:37.05 | PorkSoda | :) |
| 04:37.06 | lazarus477 | At one point about two hours ago I got it all to work and glxinfo reported DRI Enabled. |
| 04:37.37 | coffee1 | lazarus477 i'm sorry but i have to ask.. have you tried this on windows yet? |
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| 04:37.49 | coffee1 | i mean do you have a dual boot setup? |
| 04:37.50 | Jester45 | coffee1, windows is not a alternative |
| 04:37.52 | lazarus477 | I need my wife whoes name is Xiaoqian and she needs X in order to view Mr X on youku.com, lol |
| 04:37.57 | coffee1 | Jester45 i'm pretty sure i'm not asking you |
| 04:38.04 | lazarus477 | Hell yes |
| 04:38.06 | Jester45 | im pretty sure i dont care |
| 04:38.09 | lazarus477 | The card works fine in windows |
| 04:38.14 | coffee1 | ok.. so... |
| 04:38.23 | coffee1 | why spend your whole saturday afternoon trying to write your own drivers? |
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| 04:38.34 | lazarus477 | It is an old Nvidia GForce2 GTX with 32 MB VRAM |
| 04:38.47 | lazarus477 | GTS, not GTX, sorry. |
| 04:38.51 | Jester45 | that should have opensource driver |
| 04:38.54 | coffee1 | you might want to think about a new one |
| 04:39.02 | lazarus477 | Yep |
| 04:39.03 | coffee1 | i have dual sli.. pretty nice setup |
| 04:39.14 | Kebab_King | lazarus477, geforce 2 can use the regular nvidia driver i think |
| 04:39.17 | Ghost-R | after install flashplugin-nonfree, it doesnt seem to work, any alternative ? |
| 04:39.25 | Ghost-R | installing* |
| 04:39.27 | lazarus477 | I had no trouble with this on Debian stable. |
| 04:39.41 | coffee1 | lazarus477 are you trying to play a game or something? |
| 04:39.41 | lazarus477 | It looks mainly to me as an issue with Lenny testing. |
| 04:39.47 | coffee1 | lazarus477 or is this just a general malfunction |
| 04:39.49 | lazarus477 | No, just want DRI. |
| 04:40.02 | coffee1 | lazarus477 gotcha. i would say buy a new video card ;) |
| 04:40.02 | lazarus477 | General malfunction. |
| 04:40.16 | PorkSoda | Ghost-R, I don't know if any one is helping you, but did you try to restart the browser. |
| 04:40.16 | lazarus477 | I would too, or downgrade back to stable, lol. |
| 04:40.21 | coffee1 | lol yep.. or use windows |
| 04:40.21 | PorkSoda | Or "x" |
| 04:40.21 | pickcoder | nvidia is the mal-function |
| 04:40.27 | lazarus477 | lol |
| 04:40.36 | pickcoder | kinda like broadcom |
| 04:40.45 | Ghost-R | PorkSoda, yes restarted & rebooted, nothing works :( |
| 04:40.51 | lazarus477 | Browser works fine. Just wanted X to run more efficiently when watching video and such. |
| 04:41.08 | Jester45 | thats understandable |
| 04:41.09 | coffee1 | heh.. blame the manufacturer when it works just fine on another distro and OS |
| 04:41.12 | coffee1 | that makes sense |
| 04:41.23 | pickcoder | lazarus477: did you follow the install guide for nividia on Debian? |
| 04:41.32 | lazarus477 | yep |
| 04:41.37 | mhymn | lazarus477: have you ever read the debian wiki for NVidia ? |
| 04:41.40 | pickcoder | and the module wouldn't compile |
| 04:41.42 | lazarus477 | yup |
| 04:41.50 | pickcoder | and you refused to pastebin the errors for me |
| 04:42.00 | Ghost-R | anyhelp for getting flash work ? |
| 04:42.00 | Kebab_King | lazarus477, have you tried the regular nvidia package and not the legacy one? |
| 04:42.13 | lazarus477 | You see. I am not your garden variety moron... LOL |
| 04:42.23 | coffee1 | lol lazarus477 |
| 04:42.35 | coffee1 | lazarus477 but did you follow the install guide? lol |
| 04:42.43 | lazarus477 | The regular one would not work with this card, it does not support it, I checked that thoroughly. |
| 04:42.46 | mhymn | !lol |
| 04:42.46 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 04:42.50 | Jester45 | Ghost-R, what version of debian are you running |
| 04:42.55 | coffee1 | awww |
| 04:42.59 | lazarus477 | Yes I followed the install guide to the letter |
| 04:43.00 | Ghost-R | Jester45, etch |
| 04:43.05 | Kebab_King | Ghost-R, which browser are you using? |
| 04:43.16 | coffee1 | lazarus477 being sarcastic there |
| 04:43.23 | pickcoder | lazarus477: most of the dri/glx gurus are probably asleep |
| 04:43.44 | Ghost-R | Kebab_King, Jester45 Iceweasel (firefox) |
| 04:43.46 | Vi^3PP | guess all the gals and guys from debiankde are out too and the wiki is not working either |
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| 04:44.14 | lazarus477 | But the install guide has several variations and I have only tried out two of them. One using module assistant and one compiling it manually, oh yes and installing through apt the prebuilt... |
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| 04:44.38 | Kebab_King | Ghost-R, try "apt-get install locate -y; updatedb; locate libflash | grep .so" |
| 04:45.19 | Jester45 | prefers find |
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| 04:45.25 | lazarus477 | Well I consider my self an Nvidia mini guru in this case. I think based on the responces here and my own experience I rule that the problem will not go away until Lenny becomes stable. |
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| 04:45.50 | coffee1 | lazarus477 and the fact that you spent an entire saturday recompiling kernels and writing drivers |
| 04:46.06 | lazarus477 | Also I did not spend all my time on this alone, I was also doing data recovery for a client, hehe. |
| 04:46.15 | lazarus477 | yep |
| 04:46.22 | Jester45 | coffee1, would you rather have him spend an weekend removeing viruses and scaning his harddrive? |
| 04:46.41 | pickcoder | or trying to install SP1 |
| 04:46.43 | coffee1 | Jester45 i'm not sure, i haven't done that in... years |
| 04:46.45 | pickcoder | for 2.5 weeks |
| 04:46.46 | lazarus477 | even modified a source module for the driver because it was referencing the wrong header in the linux headers. |
| 04:47.13 | pickcoder | lazarus477: and you can't figure out why the module won't compile? |
| 04:47.37 | Jester45 | i still dont see how such an old card doesnt have a opensource driver that has dri |
| 04:47.50 | lazarus477 | I am also considering following a guide at the nvidia linux forum. There they provide some patches to get the latest legacy package up to date to work with the latest linux kernel. |
| 04:47.50 | SnakeO2 | pickcoder: Iptraf is awesome, thsank!!! |
| 04:48.05 | mhymn | lazarus477: btw /msg dpkg nvidia might help too |
| 04:48.14 | SnakeO2 | pickcoder: one thing: I noticed that is has 1 throughput monitor: "activity", is there a way to split this into input/output? |
| 04:48.15 | lazarus477 | because Nvidia does not want it open source |
| 04:48.17 | pickcoder | SnakeO2: no prob |
| 04:48.26 | pickcoder | SnakeO2: it should show both |
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| 04:48.46 | Ghost-R | Kebab_King, output http://pastebin.ca/1091482 |
| 04:49.00 | SnakeO2 | i see: eth0 / Total / IP / NonIP / BadIP / Activity |
| 04:49.02 | pickcoder | wait.. no it doesn't |
| 04:49.03 | SnakeO2 | and Activity is only 1 |
| 04:49.05 | pickcoder | wireshark does IIRC |
| 04:49.07 | Jester45 | coffee1, what about an os that installed a "update" that acted like spyware |
| 04:49.14 | SnakeO2 | IIRC? |
| 04:49.16 | Jester45 | is done |
| 04:49.19 | pickcoder | Jester45: don't feed the trolls |
| 04:49.29 | pickcoder | if I recall correctly |
| 04:49.34 | lazarus477 | mhymn what do you mean when you say "/msg dpkg nvidia might help too" ? |
| 04:49.40 | lazarus477 | Should I message someone? |
| 04:49.44 | pickcoder | !nvidia |
| 04:49.44 | dpkg | To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. If you've done it before, ask me about <nvidia one-liner> for a reminder. If using a later release than Etch, ask me about <nvidia_post_etch>. nvidia.com drivers (ie. nvidia-installer) are _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia. |
| 04:49.47 | Vi^3PP | http://www.debiantutorials.org/talkitup/index.php?topic=2258.new#new |
| 04:49.48 | coffee1 | Jester45 once again, not sure what you're talking about.. and i'm pretty sure the next 5 arguments you make have been addressed in the past few years |
| 04:49.57 | Vi^3PP | there is the error for dcop |
| 04:50.01 | lazarus477 | aha, lol |
| 04:50.21 | pickcoder | SnakeO2: please don't pm unless you ask first |
| 04:50.29 | SnakeO2 | pickcoder: sorry |
| 04:50.50 | pickcoder | I'm done.. I don't need this tonight |
| 04:50.51 | lazarus477 | dpkg is a bot! |
| 04:50.51 | dpkg | lazarus477: wish i knew |
| 04:51.25 | coffee1 | heh |
| 04:51.52 | coffee1 | still mighty and great. |
| 04:51.55 | coffee1 | drinks coffee |
| 04:52.37 | Ghost-R | kicks coffee1 |
| 04:52.44 | Kebab_King | Ghost-R, did you restarted iceweasel? |
| 04:52.44 | coffee1 | doesnt hurt.. im made of steel |
| 04:52.52 | Ghost-R | Kebab_King, yes |
| 04:52.56 | Kebab_King | did you restart* i mean. |
| 04:52.56 | jescis | drinks coffee1 after putting him in a fridgerator for a few minutes ;) |
| 04:52.59 | coffee1 | im 170lbs of twisted steel and raw sex appeal |
| 04:53.40 | lazarus477 | Ok I have not been jabbering with dpkg |
| 04:54.17 | lazarus477 | I think I shall give module assistant one more try after some sleep but this time using it for installing the binary packages in apt for nvidia. |
| 04:54.35 | Kebab_King | Ghost-R, you may have gnash (gnu flash player) installed... try "apt-get --purge remove gnash" |
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| 04:54.56 | Ghost-R | Kebab_King, no I dont have gnash |
| 04:55.10 | Ghost-R | Kebab_King, & also restarted browser, nothing works |
| 04:55.14 | lazarus477 | And for everyones wise ass information. I have been hard core hacking linux for just about two years and completelly switched over to it. I only depend on windows for running CounterStrike! |
| 04:55.34 | Ghost-R | lazarus477, counterstrike runs on linux too |
| 04:55.41 | Ghost-R | :P |
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| 04:55.43 | lazarus477 | Not for me it doesnt! |
| 04:55.44 | lazarus477 | lol |
| 04:55.51 | lazarus477 | It used to up until recently, lol |
| 04:56.08 | Kebab_King | Ghost-R, try enabling the Shockwave Flash plugin in iceweasel. |
| 04:56.39 | lazarus477 | I even purchased a game for linux, Defcon, works like a charm. CS used to work perfectly, but something new changed that, think it was a steam update. |
| 04:56.57 | Kebab_King | Ghost-R, in iceweasel: tools > add-ons > plugins |
| 04:57.04 | Ghost-R | Kebab_King, ok |
| 04:57.06 | jello | lazarus477: what's the problem with m-a? |
| 04:57.12 | lazarus477 | Recently I got WindowsXP running under QEMU |
| 04:57.37 | dtto | hi all. first time here... i have a question about cryptsetup w/ LUKS. i'm getting a strange error that i can't seem to debug. When i run luksFormat i get "Command failed" with no other explanation. |
| 04:57.37 | lazarus477 | When I ran m-a for the nvidia drivers it got an error during building. |
| 04:57.46 | dtto | But cryptsetup w/out LUKS works just fine. |
| 04:57.51 | newsense | great scott xp |
| 04:57.59 | lazarus477 | I shall try it again using the binary packages if possible. Might prevent apt from throwing out xorg |
| 04:58.05 | lazarus477 | yes |
| 04:58.19 | Ghost-R | Kebab_King, after add-ons there is no such option as "plugins" :s |
| 04:58.22 | jello | lazarus477: post the error? |
| 04:58.22 | newsense | !newsense |
| 04:58.23 | dpkg | methinks newsense is an ignorant bastard that lurk around the likes of #debian, ignore him and he might go away ! |
| 04:58.30 | newsense | lol |
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| 04:58.41 | Kebab_King | ohno, i'm using iceweasel 3, hehe. |
| 04:58.42 | lazarus477 | Oh yea that is something more I depend on, lol. I use a remote control software which only functions properly under Windows. Got it working in Wine too but without a feature or two. |
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| 04:58.54 | Macer | hi |
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| 04:59.03 | jello | !greet Macer |
| 04:59.03 | dpkg | G'day, Macer |
| 04:59.04 | Macer | anybody here do dev for an n800? |
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| 04:59.11 | Ghost-R | Kebab_King, am on 2.0.0.15 :-| |
| 04:59.23 | wols | lazarus477: tried lirc? |
| 04:59.50 | wols | lazarus477: what error with the drivers? |
| 05:00.00 | lazarus477 | In less than a year I took linux to my heart and turned it into a business tool. After one year from starting the studies I had sold my first Dell PowerEdge server setup with Debian as the OS to an international furniture company. |
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| 05:00.07 | lazarus477 | So I aint to darned green folks! |
| 05:00.16 | Macer | wanted to build stuff for an n800 but the dev enviroment requires an i386 install |
| 05:00.28 | Macer | of debian :) i guess i'll make a small vm for it |
| 05:00.35 | wols | Macer: make a chroot |
| 05:00.43 | jello | lazarus477: ok, pls post your error and we can try to help |
| 05:00.43 | wols | !schroot |
| 05:00.43 | dpkg | well, schroot is an easy way of setting up a chroot of testing or unstable within your installation of stable. See http://wiki.debian.org/Kde4schroot and http://linuxgazette.net/150/kapil.html |
| 05:00.57 | lazarus477 | Oh heck I do not have it at hand right now |
| 05:01.01 | Macer | heh... wish i could do a chroot on the n800 itself |
| 05:01.02 | wols | Macer: woekrs with i386/x86 too |
| 05:01.06 | jello | *shrug* |
| 05:01.14 | wols | !tell lazarus477 about noob |
| 05:01.15 | Macer | you figure they would have a dev pkg for the n800 on the n800 |
| 05:01.18 | lazarus477 | I will give my idea another try and after that possible engage in posting errors |
| 05:01.27 | Macer | i really just want to dev kde apps for it |
| 05:01.27 | lazarus477 | noob, yes lets hear about noob. |
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| 05:01.32 | Macer | kde on an n800 is awesome |
| 05:01.37 | BUMBACL0T | can someone explain me how to add user and add that user to a group? i havent used debian in a while. all i remember is useradd user:usergroup |
| 05:01.42 | Macer | hildon kinda sucks |
| 05:01.48 | jello | BUMBACL0T: adduser user group |
| 05:01.59 | wols | Macer: n800 is a mebedded device. embedded devices use crosscompilers and such |
| 05:02.08 | BUMBACL0T | what im trying to do is add a user and give that user an ftp access |
| 05:02.11 | jello | BUMBACL0T: it's right at the top of the manpage... |
| 05:02.30 | Macer | wols - know any information that i could find for it? so far only thing i found requires a scratchbox dev enviroment |
| 05:02.30 | wols | jello: lower your expectations. today is sunday |
| 05:02.34 | Macer | can't install it on my gentoo box |
| 05:02.45 | wols | info for what? |
| 05:02.46 | newsense | jamacains |
| 05:03.02 | Macer | info on how to crosscompile for n800 on another linux box |
| 05:03.12 | jello | wols: heh |
| 05:03.23 | Macer | would be awesome if i could build for an armel and jsut make debs for it |
| 05:03.26 | wols | make .deb package on another box, install said deb on the n800. done |
| 05:03.39 | Macer | i still need to build the bins for an armel |
| 05:03.41 | wols | Macer: for that you need a crosscompiler as I said. tons of them out there |
| 05:03.50 | dtto | hmmm.... where would i look for more information about why my cryptsetup luks command is failing? nothing in dmesg or kern.log and cryptsetup doesn't appear to have a debug switch. |
| 05:03.54 | jello | or get access to an armel box... |
| 05:03.59 | Macer | gcc doesn't cross compile on its own with different flags? |
| 05:04.08 | Macer | for the cpu? |
| 05:04.11 | wols | no it doesn't |
| 05:04.15 | Macer | blah :) |
| 05:04.15 | jello | i believe it does, if you ask nicely |
| 05:04.23 | Macer | hehe |
| 05:04.28 | wols | jello: only i386/x86-64 |
| 05:04.30 | wols | nothing else |
| 05:04.37 | Macer | gcc --please-compile-for-armel |
| 05:04.46 | jello | heh |
| 05:05.12 | Macer | hm.... so far all the information i found requires that you do a scratchbox install for some reason... maybe i can find some other information elsewhere |
| 05:05.54 | wols | jsut look for "crosscompiler" however you also need the armel supportlibs if you actually want to compile stuff for the n800 |
| 05:06.18 | wols | that's another load of work to then generate those, so maybe that's why they talk about scratchbox: it ships with those already |
| 05:06.29 | Macer | ah i see |
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| 05:07.12 | Macer | awesome |
| 05:07.14 | BUMBACL0T | ok, i think im lost, it keeps saying that group ftp doesn't exist |
| 05:07.14 | Macer | think i found it |
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| 05:07.40 | jello | BUMBACL0T: getent group | grep ^ftp |
| 05:07.45 | Flinx | I'm trying to compile the latest version of Alsa from sources |
| 05:07.52 | Ghost-R | Kebab_King, did u manually complie firefox 3 ? |
| 05:08.01 | Macer | well... only other box i have is a gentoo box.. but this looks promising |
| 05:08.02 | Flinx | but GCC is complaining that it cant create executable files |
| 05:08.02 | jello | Flinx: using the alsa-source pkg and m-a? |
| 05:08.06 | Kebab_King | Ghost-R, it's available in debian sid |
| 05:08.13 | wols | Ghost-R: and lenny |
| 05:08.23 | Macer | http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Cross_Compile |
| 05:08.26 | wols | !tell Flinx about build-essential |
| 05:08.34 | Flinx | jello: I downloaded them from the alsa-project site. |
| 05:08.42 | Macer | i actually wish i could build a gentoo install for the n800 with its own armel portage tree |
| 05:08.51 | Ghost-R | why is it missing in etch :s |
| 05:08.53 | BUMBACL0T | jello, hah, its ftp-users, not ftp |
| 05:08.54 | jello | Flinx: apt-get install alsa-source module-assistant; m-a a-i alsa |
| 05:09.21 | wols | jello: if he compiles alsoa, chances are he wants the newest, otherwise he could use a normal debian package, no? |
| 05:09.29 | lazarus477 | Oh does anyone know when Lenny might become stable? |
| 05:09.36 | jello | wols: alsa-source usually is newest |
| 05:09.54 | jello | lazarus477: only 379 rc bugs to go... |
| 05:10.10 | lazarus477 | well that sounds fairly light |
| 05:10.21 | Flinx | yeah |
| 05:10.44 | Flinx | I tried using the sid package for the newest but I think something else got updated and I couldn't log in anymore |
| 05:10.51 | lazarus477 | Perhaps I have found bug nr 380...... |
| 05:10.54 | wols | Ghost-R: cause etch is STABLE |
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| 05:11.06 | Flinx | so i want to install -just- the latest alsa |
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| 05:11.52 | Kebab_King | Flinx, this may be not related, but have you tried pulseaudio? |
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| 05:12.12 | jello | Flinx: do you need 1.0.17? or is 1.0.16 good enough? and what kernel are you using? |
| 05:12.28 | Macer | what is the difference between an arm and an armel? |
| 05:12.28 | Flinx | I'm using the latest from Etch, just installed it |
| 05:12.37 | wols | jello: alsa source in etch is 1.0.13... |
| 05:12.40 | Flinx | 1.0.16 should be fine |
| 05:12.44 | wols | jello: nice "newest" |
| 05:12.50 | jello | heh |
| 05:12.58 | wols | Flinx: etch one is 20months+ old |
| 05:13.01 | Macer | i tried to install a deb built for an arm and it said it was the wrong arch |
| 05:13.10 | Flinx | well I downloaded the iso like 4 days ago |
| 05:13.10 | Macer | i didn't really think there was a difference between them |
| 05:13.11 | wols | use alsa-source from sid. still, do a ssb |
| 05:13.15 | jello | wols: etch-n-half should be pretty recent... |
| 05:13.15 | wols | !tell Flinx about ssb |
| 05:13.29 | wols | still not newest but at least 1.0.16 |
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| 05:14.01 | Flinx | I've also done the apt-get update |
| 05:14.14 | Flinx | and so far all of my packages are up to date |
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| 05:14.20 | Flinx | except for the alsa |
| 05:14.23 | wols | Flinx: what debian version? |
| 05:14.25 | Kebab_King | Flinx, why do you want a newer alsa package? |
| 05:15.06 | wols | Kebab_King: usually it's because snd-hda-intel otherwise barfs |
| 05:15.20 | wols | happens pretty often |
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| 05:16.05 | Flinx | Kebab_King: Because after a lot of debugging over on the #alsa channel they suggested that I upgrade |
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| 05:16.47 | jello | wols: wishlist bug for 1.0.17 filed; happy? ;) |
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| 05:17.11 | Kebab_King | i'm not sure if this works, but... try: apt-get install -t lenny alsa-base |
| 05:17.29 | lazarus477 | Well this party animal is ready for bed. Thanks for the help folks. Nice to see people so energetic towards solving problems :-) |
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| 05:18.52 | jello | lazarus477: at your service :) |
| 05:19.52 | Flinx | Kebab_King: yeah it says that its already upto date with 1.0.13 |
| 05:20.34 | lazarus477 | Before leaving I would like to brag. In the past two years I have made use of, Fedore, Gentoo, Debian, OpenBSD, NetBSD and enjoyed running software such as OpenVPN, SSH, SFTP, rSync, MidnightCommander, DD, PartImage, BackupPC, TAR and the list goes on. Also used floppies, CDs, K3B, LightScribe labeling (linux!) Inkscape, Scribus..... |
| 05:21.10 | lazarus477 | Fedore = Fedora. Afraid I am so tired I am making typos. |
| 05:22.08 | cweagans | my debian installation isn't letting me change my hostname. I can type hostname MYHOSTNAME and it will change it until a reboot, at which point the hostname goes back to localhost. I also do not know how to change the machine domain name |
| 05:22.13 | lazarus477 | I have also setup linux and BSD disk raid configurations and done several migrations successfully. |
| 05:22.27 | jello | Kebab_King: download from http://packages.debian.org/sid/alsa-source/all/download |
| 05:22.44 | cweagans | lazarus477: cool. please stop bragging. |
| 05:22.44 | Flinx | what the heck... apt-get install kernel-source isn't letting me download the wourdes... |
| 05:22.44 | jello | Kebab_King: then, dpkg -i alsa-source_1.0.16-2_all.deb |
| 05:22.50 | Flinx | ... Sources./ |
| 05:23.07 | jello | Flinx: did you specify a version |
| 05:23.15 | jello | Flinx: in any case, don't bother with that |
| 05:23.19 | jello | Flinx: you're running ethc? |
| 05:23.19 | lazarus477 | ok stopping. I just got a bit sad about the first treatment I got in here, haha. |
| 05:23.20 | Flinx | right |
| 05:23.26 | lazarus477 | Ok off to bed. Thanks again. |
| 05:23.28 | Flinx | I just saw your post jello |
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| 05:23.56 | jello | Flinx: so download alsa-source from the url above |
| 05:24.08 | jello | Flinx: install it, and then install module-assistant |
| 05:24.27 | wols | Flinx: you do not need kernel-source (which doesn't exist anymore either) |
| 05:24.38 | jello | Flinx: then run `m-a -t a-i alsa` and get yourself a cup of coffee and watch it work |
| 05:24.48 | Flinx | Working on that |
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| 05:25.33 | hedos | Hello. It seems I can't have more than one application at a time using the sound system. This is getting pretty annoying. |
| 05:25.41 | hedos | I'm using alsa with an external usb card. |
| 05:25.45 | jello | hedos: are you using alsa? |
| 05:25.46 | hedos | Any idea what's wrong? |
| 05:25.55 | wols | hedos: no software mixer |
| 05:25.57 | jello | oi, external usb... |
| 05:26.08 | wols | use something like pulseaudio or dmix |
| 05:26.09 | wols | !dmix |
| 05:26.09 | dpkg | dmix is probably an alsa subsystem which allows a music device to play multiple sound streams simultaneously without the need for an external sound server. See http://alsa.opensrc.org/Dmix, or another sample asound.conf at img.hexus.net/v2/features/foss/a3/images/asound.conf, or http://phaeronix.net/asoundrc |
| 05:26.49 | hedos | I'll check that out, thanks. |
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| 05:27.37 | sc[a]sw | is anyone here running eee debian on an eee pc 901? |
| 05:28.12 | wols | !eeepc |
| 05:28.13 | dpkg | hmm... eee is see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC, or #debian-eeepc on irc.oftc.net, or see http://debian-eeepc.alioth.debian.org/ |
| 05:28.15 | Flinx | jello: Thanks, there are a couple of deps I need to get for the alsa package first. |
| 05:28.24 | sc[a]sw | yes... |
| 05:28.29 | hedos | This look complicated as hell and you have to make it for for each application that uses sound... |
| 05:28.30 | sc[a]sw | thank you |
| 05:28.43 | jello | Flinx: apt-get install -f |
| 05:28.47 | sc[a]sw | there is no one there |
| 05:28.58 | jello | !ask |
| 05:28.58 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 05:30.15 | Flinx | jello: yep I'm on the last step now |
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| 05:30.35 | jello | NOTE: For ALSA 1.0.9rc2 and higher you don't need to setup dmix. Dmix is enabled as default for soundcards which don't support hw mixing. |
| 05:31.00 | levander | I see how to list all the at job numbers with atq. But, how do I see what the command is that the job is going to run? |
| 05:32.29 | jello | levander: iirc, /var/spool/cron/atjobs |
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| 05:34.32 | Flinx | jello: m-a -t a-i alsa build failed |
| 05:34.44 | jello | Flinx: post the output to a pastebin pls |
| 05:34.53 | Flinx | make: *** [kdist_image] Error 2 |
| 05:35.00 | Flinx | and sure gimmie a sec |
| 05:35.14 | jello | Flinx: m-a creates a logfile, post that to a pastebin |
| 05:35.49 | levander | jello: Thanks, that got it. Wish they'd do a better interface to see what each job does... |
| 05:35.59 | coffee1 | flash sessions.. better than sex |
| 05:36.35 | jello | levander: reportbug -s wishlist |
| 05:37.29 | jello | coffee1: in that case, i pity your partner... ;-) |
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| 05:37.40 | coffee1 | yap |
| 05:37.52 | levander | jello: meh, it's not like they don't know it's a good idea |
| 05:38.15 | jello | maybe it'll get bumped up the list... |
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| 05:38.33 | jello | never hurts to make your voice (and requests) heard |
| 05:38.39 | newsense | pops the top off a 24oz corona |
| 05:38.49 | jello | !beer |
| 05:38.50 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, beer is liquid gold mate |
| 05:38.52 | Macer | hah |
| 05:39.02 | newsense | lol |
| 05:39.06 | Macer | i'm drinking bacardi and coke myself |
| 05:39.21 | Macer | i think the 5th cup is getting me tipsy |
| 05:39.34 | jello | !beer jello |
| 05:39.34 | dpkg | pours a quart of Jever for jello |
| 05:39.40 | newsense | i deserve it did some babysitting for my 9 mnth old bephew thats teething |
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| 05:40.06 | jello | !congratulate newsense |
| 05:40.06 | dpkg | Woohoo newsense, you did it! |
| 05:40.08 | intreq | hi, i need some support in my debian support |
| 05:40.09 | Macer | haha |
| 05:40.16 | newsense | lol |
| 05:40.16 | jello | !greet intreq |
| 05:40.17 | dpkg | Moo, intreq |
| 05:40.20 | Macer | usually they get sick when they teeth |
| 05:40.22 | Macer | my son did |
| 05:40.23 | Macer | :) |
| 05:40.41 | intreq | so , hi guys |
| 05:40.45 | intreq | i was trying to use sudo |
| 05:40.47 | Macer | teething is a horrible thing.. poor little man had fresh bone protruding through his gums |
| 05:40.48 | newsense | are they supposed to cry for hrs ? |
| 05:40.48 | intreq | but this is what happneed |
| 05:40.53 | Macer | yes |
| 05:40.54 | Macer | heh |
| 05:41.03 | Macer | hours and hours |
| 05:41.11 | Macer | you can get gel for it |
| 05:41.12 | newsense | im usually good with kids but not today |
| 05:41.26 | Macer | or those things you put in the freezer for them to chew on |
| 05:41.35 | newsense | gave hm the jell |
| 05:41.43 | newsense | didnt stopthe crying |
| 05:41.46 | intreq | nvm |
| 05:41.47 | intreq | it worked |
| 05:41.49 | intreq | very sorry |
| 05:41.51 | Macer | it's hard ;) |
| 05:41.53 | intreq | but thanks for ur support |
| 05:42.03 | jello | !congratulate intreq |
| 05:42.03 | dpkg | Hugs & Puppies intreq, you did it! |
| 05:42.10 | Macer | but it's something they all go through.. poor little man was hurting |
| 05:42.27 | Macer | i felt so bad for my son.... some nights i had to hold him and rock him for an hour to get him to sleep |
| 05:42.39 | coffee1 | !rape coffee1 |
| 05:42.46 | intreq | i have a question, is pidgin in the packet manaager, i kinda need a im client |
| 05:42.47 | newsense | dpkg babys are not for the faint of heart and harder to maintain than an ms server ! |
| 05:42.47 | dpkg | newsense: okay |
| 05:42.52 | coffee1 | it wouldnt be rape if i asked for it i guess |
| 05:43.01 | Macer | ms servers aren't that hard to maintain ;) |
| 05:43.03 | newsense | !babys |
| 05:43.03 | dpkg | babys are not for the faint of heart and harder to maintain than an ms server ! |
| 05:43.08 | newsense | lmao |
| 05:43.26 | jello | intreq: yes |
| 05:43.29 | cweagans | how can I find out what device node the currently mounted root filesystem lives on? |
| 05:43.36 | intreq | so what name should it call |
| 05:43.41 | intreq | so i can do the sudo command to install it |
| 05:43.45 | Macer | it gets a lot more fun when they hit that 2-3 yr age... my son is 2 now and he is talking more and more |
| 05:43.47 | Macer | :) |
| 05:43.50 | intreq | i just moved to debian, so i am not getting very used to it |
| 05:43.54 | Macer | it's great when you can hold up a conversation with them |
| 05:43.56 | newsense | df -h ? |
| 05:44.19 | jello | intreq: sudo apt-get install pidgin |
| 05:44.26 | Macer | i need to make a debian vm |
| 05:44.30 | Macer | just to build n800 apps |
| 05:44.42 | intreq | let me try jello |
| 05:44.44 | Macer | gentoo has some cross compile dev crap. but i dunno about that |
| 05:44.58 | jello | intreq: read the debian FAQ, it'll save you lots of time in the long run |
| 05:45.03 | intreq | the problem is |
| 05:45.04 | intreq | sudo apt-get install pidgin |
| 05:45.04 | intreq | Reading package lists... Done |
| 05:45.04 | intreq | Building dependency tree... Done |
| 05:45.04 | intreq | E: Couldn't find package pidgin |
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| 05:45.22 | newsense | dam pidgin |
| 05:45.30 | Macer | haha |
| 05:45.54 | newsense | everyone talkin bout it and i dont know what it is so it must be crap |
| 05:46.12 | wols | !Pidgin |
| 05:46.12 | dpkg | pidgin is, like, formerly <gaim>, but due to trademark issues with AOL over the acronym AIM, had its name changed to Pidgin. libgaim is now libpurple and gaim-text is now Finch. Backported packages are available for Etch from backports.org, ask me about <backports.org> |
| 05:46.23 | newsense | oh |
| 05:46.33 | wols | intr80_: see that? |
| 05:46.38 | newsense | i used gaim 8 yrs ago under redhat |
| 05:46.54 | jello | he was probably running etch... |
| 05:47.00 | Flinx | jello: its availible at http://www.pastebin.ca/1091519 |
| 05:47.05 | wols | ah, he was stupid too |
| 05:47.32 | cweagans | how can I find out what device node the currently mounted root filesystem lives on? |
| 05:47.44 | newsense | df -h |
| 05:47.52 | newsense | just told ya |
| 05:48.10 | newsense | ya fuckin listen ? |
| 05:48.48 | cahoot | plain mount? |
| 05:49.03 | cweagans | that doesn't give the information I am looking for |
| 05:49.07 | Ghost-R | lol |
| 05:49.14 | cahoot | plain mount cweagans |
| 05:49.16 | cweagans | I am looking for something to the effect of /dev/hda1 |
| 05:49.17 | jello | cweagans: what are you trying to do? |
| 05:49.22 | newsense | cweagans: ya want a fuckin cookie |
| 05:49.22 | Flinx | yeah |
| 05:49.23 | cweagans | cahoot: I think so |
| 05:49.29 | Flinx | df -h will tell you that |
| 05:49.32 | cahoot | just type mount cweagans |
| 05:49.37 | Flinx | so will "mount" |
| 05:49.57 | newsense | cweagans: sorry im inpatient for idiots tonight |
| 05:50.02 | cweagans | I need the device node that this is on: simfs on / type simfs (rw) |
| 05:50.05 | Flinx | Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on |
| 05:50.05 | Flinx | /dev/hda1 19G 2.2G 16G 13% / |
| 05:50.16 | Flinx | thats what i get by typing df -h |
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| 05:50.45 | cweagans | I get this: |
| 05:50.48 | cweagans | Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on |
| 05:50.48 | cweagans | simfs 10G 303M 9.8G 3% / |
| 05:51.07 | newsense | ya runing virtualbox ? |
| 05:51.14 | Flinx | cat /etcfstab |
| 05:51.22 | Flinx | sorry cat /etc/fstab |
| 05:51.35 | cweagans | my host is running open vz on his server (my server is a VPS) |
| 05:51.47 | cweagans | # UNCONFIGURED FSTAB FOR BASE SYSTEM |
| 05:51.49 | cweagans | is the only line |
| 05:52.14 | newsense | so whats new in thedebian scene these days ? |
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| 05:52.30 | jello | cweagans: you probably don't have access to the raw device |
| 05:52.40 | jello | newsense: lenny is frozen... |
| 05:52.52 | cweagans | I just need to set some options on it for when it mounts |
| 05:52.58 | cweagans | (I'm installing quota) |
| 05:53.06 | jello | cweagans: you'll have to ask your provider/host |
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| 05:53.15 | cweagans | I did |
| 05:53.16 | jello | they set your kernel command line |
| 05:53.21 | cweagans | he said ask you guys |
| 05:53.22 | cweagans | =D |
| 05:53.34 | newsense | lenny frozen will last few mnths ? |
| 05:53.53 | wols | !tell newsense about WIR |
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| 05:53.56 | jello | newsense: who knows? 379 rc bugs to go... |
| 05:54.18 | jello | Flinx: ok, it's using a newer debhelper... |
| 05:54.39 | Flinx | that was one of the dependendcies. |
| 05:54.44 | jello | probably unnecessarily |
| 05:54.47 | newsense | thnx wols |
| 05:54.53 | Flinx | kay |
| 05:54.54 | newsense | looks down |
| 05:55.17 | Flinx | and apparently I'm running debian 4.0 >.> |
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| 05:55.37 | jello | Flinx: hang on a sec |
| 05:55.41 | Flinx | sure |
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| 05:57.38 | newsense | would love to run debian on his ps3 but its asking for about 2 gigs of storage media for backup and i got an 8gig mp3 player it wont recognize :( |
| 05:57.53 | jello | Flinx: echo 5 > /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/debian/compat |
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| 05:58.57 | jello | Flinx: then, m-a -t -O a-i alsa |
| 05:58.58 | Flinx | permission denied |
| 05:59.01 | Flinx | even with sudo |
| 05:59.04 | jello | Flinx: so do it as root |
| 05:59.24 | Flinx | kay |
| 05:59.46 | Flinx | it worked as su |
| 05:59.49 | jello | Flinx: sudo sh -c "echo 5 > /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/debian/compat" |
| 06:00.12 | jello | Flinx: that's how you do redirection with sudo |
| 06:00.33 | Flinx | ah |
| 06:00.36 | Flinx | thanks :D |
| 06:01.42 | jello | should really file a bug against alsa-source |
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| 06:02.10 | Flinx | for a similar reason to what I'm having? |
| 06:02.12 | jello | it should have 6 in compat if it only build-deps on >= 5.0.37 |
| 06:02.24 | Flinx | Ah, I see |
| 06:02.29 | jello | s/should/& not/ |
| 06:03.14 | jello | Flinx: building away now? |
| 06:03.17 | Flinx | yep |
| 06:03.23 | Flinx | thanks :D |
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| 06:08.37 | eldereko | can anyone help me with an xfs quota issue... I am not able to remove any projects/limits |
| 06:08.54 | cweagans | is anyone able to see this site: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_debian_etch_p4 ? |
| 06:10.09 | eldereko | cweagans: no |
| 06:10.14 | streuner | hm, "Waiting for ..." |
| 06:10.28 | cweagans | I get a 504 Gateway Time-out error |
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| 06:10.41 | cweagans | "The server didn't respond in time." |
| 06:10.42 | cweagans | lol |
| 06:11.13 | cweagans | yay for google cache |
| 06:11.13 | cweagans | =D |
| 06:12.33 | Repossessed | and I managed to make my emulator no POST... |
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| 06:17.04 | StealthCP | I'm used to using chkconfig on Red Hat. What's the equivilent on Debain? |
| 06:17.12 | StealthCP | Debian*, not slept yet |
| 06:18.26 | jello | StealthCP: what does it do? |
| 06:18.46 | StealthCP | let's you set the runlevel things will run at |
| 06:19.04 | StealthCP | service $1 $2 is equivilent to /etc/init.d/$1 $2 |
| 06:19.23 | StealthCP | I'd want that one too, there was a compat [ackage somewhere |
| 06:19.43 | jello | StealthCP: update-rc.d and invoke-rc.d |
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| 06:21.05 | StealthCP | yep, just spotted that |
| 06:21.26 | StealthCP | I'll try the sysvconfig and rcconf packages, they install the equivilent of those two commands |
| 06:21.29 | acidslep | is the root group any diffrent from a normally created user group? |
| 06:21.51 | acidslep | by default |
| 06:21.54 | jello | acidslep: i think it owns a lot of stuff |
| 06:22.03 | jello | system stuff that is |
| 06:22.14 | acidslep | so would it be wise to put a administrator in the root group? |
| 06:22.18 | jello | like /etc/passwd |
| 06:22.19 | acidslep | hi jello :) |
| 06:22.34 | jello | acidslep: no, give them the adm group |
| 06:22.38 | jello | that's what it's for... |
| 06:22.50 | acidslep | >< how see all groups? |
| 06:22.56 | jello | acidslep: getent group |
| 06:24.33 | acidslep | Thanks |
| 06:24.52 | jello | np |
| 06:25.03 | acidslep | know of a good place to read about debian default groups? |
| 06:25.27 | jello | debian faq perhaps? |
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| 06:25.59 | jello | or maybe debian reference |
| 06:26.13 | wols | acidslep: it makes any groups that are necessary depending on installed packages |
| 06:26.21 | streuner | Is there something else for watching TV (DVB-T) other than kaffeine? |
| 06:26.25 | acidslep | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:26.31 | acidslep | but things like staff and adm |
| 06:27.16 | LemensTS | how do i know if the source i downloaded has a configuration file? Will it just be named 'configure' ? |
| 06:27.38 | acidslep | thanks |
| 06:27.59 | jello | LemensTS: huh? |
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| 06:29.04 | LemensTS | Making a debian enviroment to the package |
| 06:29.04 | LemensTS | first thing you should check is: does myproject-1.2 have a configure file? |
| 06:29.04 | LemensTS | if it doesn't you should make it, but we will not talk about it in this guide |
| 06:29.06 | streuner_ | LemensTS: rephrase your question please |
| 06:29.31 | LemensTS | Im trying to learn debhelper |
| 06:30.40 | jello | okay |
| 06:31.06 | jello | yes, configure script is usually called configure |
| 06:32.21 | StealthCP | I'm having trouble configuring network connections, fresh lenny install, wifi and eth0, both detected |
| 06:32.40 | StealthCP | ethernet works, install kde bits and knetwork manager |
| 06:32.48 | StealthCP | it won't pick up any devices |
| 06:32.59 | LemensTS | jello: thanks im not afraid to ask stupid questions some times heh |
| 06:33.22 | streuner_ | * jello hat die Verbindung getrennt ("good night") |
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| 06:34.01 | StealthCP | ah, made the suer a member of the netdev group, working fine now |
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| 06:38.16 | tokyojase | anyone running bind on their server ? |
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| 06:38.59 | cweagans | tokyojase: it would probably be easier to ask who ISN'T running bind on their server =D |
| 06:39.47 | streuner_ | well, i didn't yet |
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| 06:39.51 | tokyojase | hah |
| 06:40.07 | tokyojase | well I'm having all sorts of trouble getting bind working |
| 06:40.26 | tokyojase | I run named-checkdone, and it checks out |
| 06:40.33 | tokyojase | but when I restart bind, it takes about 3 minutes |
| 06:41.05 | tokyojase | and it doesn't resolve my local addresses :| |
| 06:41.22 | cweagans | haha....I have no idea how to troubleshoot it....I haven't ever had any problems with it |
| 06:41.24 | cweagans | sorry! |
| 06:41.28 | tokyojase | doh ! |
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| 06:49.36 | mhymn | dpkg: will you date me |
| 06:49.36 | dpkg | mhymn: No |
| 06:49.37 | wols | tokyojase: any special reason you run bind? |
| 06:50.17 | tokyojase | wols yep, for an application to work, I need all requests to *.domain to direct to localhost |
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| 06:52.05 | tokyojase | http://pastebin.com/m25450c42 |
| 06:52.47 | tokyojase | thats how I've configured it |
| 06:53.01 | tokyojase | dig still redirects to the external IP |
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| 06:54.59 | coffee1 | from whence i shall rule the world. |
| 06:55.05 | coffee1 | my debian peeps |
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| 06:55.24 | tokyojase | hello |
| 06:55.32 | coffee1 | greetings and salutations |
| 06:56.12 | coffee1 | hooodrats |
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| 06:58.00 | tokyojase | more info - http://pastebin.com/m49c8e2c3 |
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| 06:59.04 | coffee1 | tokyojase recompile your kernel |
| 06:59.08 | coffee1 | tokyojase if it's not working, rewrite your kernel |
| 06:59.14 | coffee1 | tokyojase if that doens't work, just rebuild your computer from scratch |
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| 06:59.20 | tokyojase | doing /etc/init.d/bind restart takes about 3 minutes |
| 06:59.36 | tokyojase | coffee1 thanks. any other ideas/ |
| 06:59.44 | coffee1 | ehhh |
| 07:00.01 | coffee1 | tokyojase if you find the problem, write it down, create a business process out of it.. market it to the world, and reap mass profits |
| 07:00.20 | tokyojase | sounds good |
| 07:00.23 | tokyojase | sadly its a bit of a niche market |
| 07:00.42 | coffee1 | even better |
| 07:00.53 | coffee1 | just take your niche and think about their closest 10 friends |
| 07:00.58 | coffee1 | build whatever they want too |
| 07:01.01 | coffee1 | and package it together |
| 07:01.11 | coffee1 | problem solved.. market increases 10 fold |
| 07:01.16 | coffee1 | so does your wallet |
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| 07:02.11 | coffee1 | be sure to build your computer using raw materials |
| 07:02.16 | cweagans | lol....I've heard of a tri-fold wallet, but a ten fold wallet? that's crazy! |
| 07:02.27 | coffee1 | wood does not conduct electricity very well, i've tried |
| 07:02.33 | coffee1 | cweagans yeah that's what happens |
| 07:02.39 | cweagans | haha |
| 07:02.40 | cweagans | thought so |
| 07:02.42 | cweagans | =D |
| 07:02.42 | coffee1 | stick to my advice, you'll be taking over the world in no time |
| 07:02.54 | mhymn | coffee1: here is a support channel, kindly stop annoying please, you can join #debian-offtopic dude |
| 07:03.04 | coffee1 | dude totally |
| 07:03.05 | coffee1 | sorry |
| 07:03.06 | coffee1 | im going there now |
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| 07:03.49 | tokyojase | mhymn thanks |
| 07:04.00 | mhymn | tokyojase: yw |
| 07:04.03 | tokyojase | funny = 0 |
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| 07:06.09 | LemensTS | http://pastebin.com/maa0c094 I ran a script that is on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51003 to find the src dependencies for building the package using debhelper, im not sure which packages it is showing are the dependencies |
| 07:06.44 | LemensTS | i was thinking line 26 maybe ? |
| 07:08.01 | zoredache_ | does anyone have any ideas why clamd would be sitting at 100% cpu on a computer not doing anything? Are there any known issues with the debian clam package? |
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| 07:17.13 | Haris | Hello people |
| 07:17.18 | Haris | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:17.20 | Haris | opos |
| 07:17.31 | Haris | http://pastebin.ca/1091573 |
| 07:17.35 | Haris | libclamav won't update |
| 07:17.43 | Haris | How! do I update it? :-) |
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| 07:20.11 | SerajewelKS | what kernel modules are present on the netinst? |
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| 07:20.21 | SerajewelKS | is there a way to get a list from the iso? (i have it loop-mounted) |
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| 07:24.25 | SerajewelKS | or to ask a different question |
| 07:24.33 | SerajewelKS | what would i have to do to get ath5k support in the netinst? |
| 07:24.53 | SerajewelKS | the driver is available for the kernel that the lenny netinst uses (2.6.24) |
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| 07:29.50 | cast | wonders if he has any use for dbus |
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| 07:32.22 | Haris | Is there a way to recursively remove all depencies for clamav? |
| 07:33.14 | _ZeuZ_ | Haris, if they are not needed anymore, and you installed it through the package manager, then they should be removed |
| 07:33.23 | khaleel5000 | hello, i have debian lenny, i want to know which graphics drivers are being used, my xorg.conf is here :- http://rafb.net/p/EG4Biw42.html |
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| 07:34.13 | cast | Haris: if you use aptitude, that'll happen automatically |
| 07:34.18 | cast | Haris: not so with apt-get |
| 07:34.26 | _ZeuZ_ | cast, it should, too. |
| 07:34.40 | cast | stable apt-get does not does it? |
| 07:34.47 | _ZeuZ_ | cast, it does it. |
| 07:34.50 | cast | ah. |
| 07:34.51 | cast | hmm |
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| 07:35.28 | _ZeuZ_ | cast, sometimes still, you need to do apt-get auto-remove to get rid of some |
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| 07:35.39 | cast | when did apt-get start doing this? |
| 07:36.28 | _ZeuZ_ | khaleel5000, you're using VESA driver. |
| 07:36.43 | Haris | does aptitude use apt-get's updated list? I always run apt-get update; aptitude update |
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| 07:36.57 | Haris | in the output apt-get downloads files, yet aptitude does not |
| 07:36.57 | _ZeuZ_ | Haris, Package database is only one. |
| 07:37.02 | Haris | ah, ok |
| 07:37.16 | Haris | is there a difference between updating it via apt-get update or aptitude update |
| 07:37.30 | _ZeuZ_ | Haris, updating the package list, no, but software itself, yes. |
| 07:37.35 | khaleel5000 | _ZeuZ_: I have never seen xorg.conf show video device as 'configured video device" ....if I want to change the default driver, how do i change it? |
| 07:37.37 | _ZeuZ_ | Haris, aptitude deals better with dependencies |
| 07:37.40 | Paulie | hello, is anyone here using bluez audio service ? |
| 07:38.07 | _ZeuZ_ | khaleel5000, first of all, create a better structure for your X configuration, do so as: X -configure (as root/with sudo) |
| 07:38.08 | Paulie | I have some problems configuring my bluetooth headsets buttons |
| 07:38.42 | priest | Hi, I have just upgraded to Lenny (from etch), there is "full disc encryption" (except /boot) on the disc, but after upgrade it can't unlock the encrypted partition as all partitions are now knows as sdaX instead of hdaX, how do I convert dm-crypt to the new names? (it was etch install who setup the encrypted disc from the beginning) |
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| 07:39.22 | khaleel5000 | _ZeuZ_: ok, i will log out of Xserver and do it. |
| 07:39.26 | khaleel5000 | brb |
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| 07:39.51 | cast | _ZeuZ_: are you sure stable apt-get works as you think, i just tested it and apt-get didn't remove the extra packages pulled but apttiude did [apt-get remove vs aptitude remove], furthermore auto-remove does not exist in stables apt-get manpage |
| 07:40.14 | _ZeuZ_ | I do, I have it on production servers and it deals with it that way. |
| 07:40.22 | cast | # apt-get auto-remove |
| 07:40.23 | cast | E: Invalid operation auto-remove |
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| 07:40.48 | _ZeuZ_ | my typo there. |
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| 07:41.41 | hoxu | How should I close a bug that was invalid / PEBKAC? |
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| 07:44.33 | cast | _ZeuZ_: i think your production servers maybe testing or unstable then |
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| 07:47.00 | Lethias | hello |
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| 07:47.38 | lxsameer | hi , can any one give some of important web repository of debian , backport an test or other i use etch now |
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| 07:47.51 | nareshov | wut |
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| 07:48.05 | hoxu | lxsameer, exactly, "what?" |
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| 07:48.21 | hoxu | lxsameer, do you want to use backports with etch or what? |
| 07:48.27 | hoxu | !tell lxsameer about bpo |
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| 07:49.04 | Haris | guys, I have clamav-daemon_0.93.1.dfsg-1.1_i386.deb installed on lenny/sid |
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| 07:49.23 | Haris | Why does libclamav, that is of the same version, tells me the clamav engine is outdated? |
| 07:49.38 | lxsameer | hoxu : can u tell me what exactly backport is ? i want some package like compiz-fusion , pidgin and some update? |
| 07:50.01 | hoxu | lxsameer, read the factoid, and then read it again, and ask dpkg for more as info as instructed |
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| 07:52.02 | hoxu | Haris, did you check bts? |
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| 07:53.16 | lxsameer | hoxu: i'm new and i am not good in english cat u explain me little more |
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| 07:53.54 | SpeedyG | lxsameer: whats your primary language then ? |
| 07:54.21 | cast | lxsameer: imo easier to not bother with compiz-fusion, as for pidgin, you can compile it yourself or check backports.org |
| 07:54.27 | lxsameer | speedyG:farsi |
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| 07:54.55 | hoxu | lxsameer, ask your question, but don't expect mercy if it's covered in the factoid/instructions :P |
| 07:54.55 | nareshov | @ @ |
| 07:55.10 | wols | lxsameer: a package for unstable compiled so it works in etch |
| 07:55.43 | hoxu | that's in the factoids, too :p |
| 07:55.58 | wols | hoxu: clamav asks the master server for virus updates and sees that there is a newer one probably |
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| 07:56.09 | wols | hoxu: yes it is |
| 07:56.12 | hoxu | Haris, ^ |
| 07:56.14 | lxsameer | hoxu : i want some important repository of debian? |
| 07:56.17 | Assid | anyone here using openvz ? i am trying to compile zaptel from source with an openvz kernel |
| 07:56.27 | Assid | but its crying about sources not being found |
| 07:56.31 | hoxu | lxsameer, and we would love to hear your meaning for "important" |
| 07:56.41 | wols | !tell Assid about errors |
| 07:56.57 | lxsameer | hoxu : i mean complete |
| 07:57.10 | wols | lxsameer: which one are you using now? |
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| 07:57.21 | wols | and what makes you think it's not complete? |
| 07:57.21 | lxsameer | wols : etch |
| 07:57.32 | wols | that's your debian version, not a repo |
| 07:57.44 | lxsameer | wols : pecause some package is not here |
| 07:57.46 | hoxu | lxsameer, show us your /etc/sources.list, /msg dpkg paste |
| 07:57.51 | wols | lxsameer: WHICH package? |
| 07:57.52 | hoxu | lxsameer, what package are you looking for? |
| 07:57.54 | lxsameer | wols : or some update |
| 07:58.14 | wols | lxsameer: etch is STABLE. read and learn what STABLE means in debian |
| 07:58.17 | hoxu | */etc/apt/sources.list |
| 07:58.31 | hoxu | "outdated"? :P |
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| 07:58.40 | hoxu | ducks |
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| 07:59.01 | mazzanet | woah |
| 07:59.03 | SpeedyG | hehe\ |
| 07:59.08 | mazzanet | since when has debian-keyring been 20mb? |
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| 07:59.58 | priest | Is it posible to disable IDE discs to be called sdaX in lenny? |
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| 08:00.02 | christefano | what is Debian Etch's standard PHP configured with? I can't seem to find a list anywhere |
| 08:00.16 | wols | !info php5 etch |
| 08:00.20 | dpkg | php5: (server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package)), section web, is optional. Version: 5.2.0-8+etch11 (etch), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 20 kB |
| 08:00.23 | wols | priest: why? |
| 08:00.30 | hoxu | christefano, you mean what options / settings? |
| 08:00.37 | lxsameer | wols : how can i get signature key of repository? |
| 08:00.46 | christefano | hoxu: right, stuff like --with-gd and --with-mysql |
| 08:00.47 | wols | lxsameer: which repo? |
| 08:00.54 | wols | christefano: sources package for php5 |
| 08:01.12 | lxsameer | wols : pacjport of wtch |
| 08:01.17 | hoxu | christefano, does phpinfo() show that? |
| 08:01.19 | wols | christefano: gd and mysql are separate packages |
| 08:01.27 | wols | lxsameer: read backports.org instructions |
| 08:01.28 | hoxu | christefano, "This includes information about PHP compilation options and extensions" |
| 08:01.36 | priest | wols, my system won't boot after upgrade to lenny, all partitions was hdaX before, and now it can't unlock all partitions (it's full disk encryption) |
| 08:01.38 | christefano | hoxu: I'm not sure it is, that's the thing |
| 08:01.58 | wols | priest: not doable. unless you use a different non debian kernel |
| 08:02.01 | christefano | wols: where is the sources package for PHP5? |
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| 08:02.07 | wols | priest: probably must be an older kernel too |
| 08:02.11 | hoxu | christefano, where ever the php5 package is |
| 08:02.20 | wols | christefano: where all sources are. in the sources repo |
| 08:02.20 | hoxu | christefano, apt-get source |
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| 08:02.46 | wols | priest: newer kernels use libata and therefore sdaX |
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| 08:04.57 | Penol | Im trying to install debian with debian netinstall, but the server dont get a ip from dhcp, but i know that the dhcp server works. enyone? |
| 08:05.36 | ptman | Penol: do you have several network interfaces? |
| 08:05.39 | hoxu | Penol, check for firewalls? Check on the DHCP server whether it gets the request? |
| 08:05.44 | Assid | wols.. heres my dilema, i am trying to use openvz, the suggested method is to use the openvz mirror, now, i am also in the need of zaptel for meetme in asterisk to work, for which i need the sources. so i got the debian's kernel sources applied the openvz patch to it.. amd im trying to compile zaptel which still wont do for me |
| 08:05.58 | Penol | ptman: i have 2 network cards, but i have the cable in eth0 |
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| 08:06.28 | wols | Assid: I told you what we need. provide it before asking me again |
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| 08:06.40 | ptman | Penol: and you are sure that it's the same eth0? linux sometimes assigns those numbers differently |
| 08:06.51 | Penol | japp |
| 08:06.53 | Penol | yeah |
| 08:07.06 | wols | Penol: ifconfig -a and content of kernel log in a pastebin please |
| 08:07.08 | hoxu | Penol, there you go, something simple to try out :p |
| 08:07.10 | tokyojase | can anyone give me a hand with my bind config? I can't get it to work no matter what |
| 08:07.12 | tokyojase | http://pastebin.com/m49c8e2c3 |
| 08:07.13 | ptman | Penol: but check the dhcp-server logs to find out if the request reaches the server |
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| 08:10.02 | hoxu | tokyojase, are you sure it's a problem with bind? I don't see wget having any problems resolving the name |
| 08:10.15 | tokyojase | right - I need it to resolve to 127.0.0.1 though |
| 08:10.24 | tokyojase | right now its resolving to the external address |
| 08:10.51 | hoxu | tokyojase, what does "dig firefly.your-japan.com @127.0.0.1" tell you? |
| 08:11.12 | tokyojase | firefly.your-japan.com. 3600 IN A 203.141.132.221 |
| 08:11.14 | tokyojase | :( |
| 08:11.33 | Haris | ok, amavis and clamav are working |
| 08:13.14 | enouf | wols: do you happen to know if this guide (for example, as it pertains to tftp netbooting) should really only be pointed to if someone is using the lenny beta2 installer? (since it says 5.0) http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/ch04s06.html |
| 08:13.20 | Haris | hoxu: On lenny/sid, I ran apt-get update; aptitude update; aptitude purge clamav clamav-base clamav-daemon clamav-fresclam libclamav1 libclamav2 libclamav3; aptitude install clamav |
| 08:13.23 | Haris | that should have done it |
| 08:13.32 | hoxu | tokyojase, hum, are you sure bind is the one replying from localhost? |
| 08:13.34 | Haris | the above said version was installed as a result |
| 08:13.47 | Haris | I'm not sure anything is latest, that is not in unstable/testing |
| 08:13.52 | enouf | whereas for etch, the original 4.0(rX) installation guide instructs should be given |
| 08:13.59 | tokyojase | no, not sure about that |
| 08:14.15 | tokyojase | ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: |
| 08:14.15 | tokyojase | your-japan.com. 3600 IN NS ns35.domaincontrol.com. |
| 08:14.17 | tokyojase | hm |
| 08:14.28 | hoxu | Haris, you don't need to run update for apt-get & aptitude, just aptitude is enough (or apt-get, but don't mix those) |
| 08:14.35 | Haris | !bts |
| 08:14.35 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. Useful for unstable and testing: aptitude install apt-listbugs <apt-listchanges> . |
| 08:14.41 | Haris | ah bugs.debian |
| 08:14.54 | hoxu | tokyojase, you are getting reply from the real DNS then, are you running dnsmasq or something? |
| 08:15.06 | tokyojase | no, I don't think so |
| 08:15.14 | tokyojase | it should be getting a reply from the local server |
| 08:15.22 | tokyojase | the local server is #1 in the resolv.conf |
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| 08:17.43 | hoxu | tokyojase, netstat -nlp |
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| 08:17.57 | mrnice` | is there a mirror for the debian lennybeta2 installer |
| 08:18.16 | mrnice` | download is stalling |
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| 08:20.12 | Jester45 | is that guy still in here that wanted to install debian on a running fedora install? |
| 08:20.22 | Jester45 | i cant seem to find the logs |
| 08:20.47 | hoxu | tokyojase, also, enable debug logging of queries for named (consult docs for how), that'll help you debug things |
| 08:21.18 | tokyojase | hoxu I did that : |
| 08:21.20 | tokyojase | tcp 0 0 10.0.0.100:53 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 28562/named |
| 08:21.20 | tokyojase | tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:53 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 28562/named |
| 08:21.39 | tokyojase | thats good, right ? |
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| 08:21.56 | hoxu | tokyojase, looks fine to me |
| 08:22.45 | tokyojase | ok... so its something to do with resolv.conf ...? |
| 08:22.52 | tokyojase | I pasted resolv.conf in that pastebin too |
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| 08:23.41 | hoxu | tokyojase, I guess at 10.0.0.1 is running your external DNS server? |
| 08:24.12 | tokyojase | that forwards to my external DNS servers, right |
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| 08:24.49 | hoxu | so I'd guess it tries local first, and then goes for the external |
| 08:24.54 | tokyojase | right... |
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| 08:25.28 | hoxu | enable logging of requests for bind |
| 08:27.36 | tokyojase | ok....... |
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| 08:28.45 | tokyojase | how do I do that...? |
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| 08:30.17 | hoxu | tokyojase, you could try http://www.netadmintools.com/part233.html |
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| 08:33.33 | tokyojase | ok added that |
| 08:33.35 | tokyojase | Starting domain name service: named |
| 08:33.40 | tokyojase | it sticks on this for about 3 minutes |
| 08:33.45 | tokyojase | hopefully there will be some info in this log |
| 08:33.45 | hatter | If i were to run a mailserver in a virtual machine and mount a disk on the main machine with nfs , would there be any problems using nfs like this permanently ? |
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| 08:34.18 | hatter | I mean, mount a disk from the main machine in the virtual machine with nfs |
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| 08:40.58 | cast | hmm, anyone else notice rafb.net doesn't have the option to link to a paste in a .txt form anymore? :( |
| 08:41.14 | tokyojase | hm.... I think I might know what the problem might be |
| 08:42.09 | SerajewelKS | will the final lenny d-i use 2.6.26? |
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| 08:47.32 | tokyojase | I installed bind first by tar |
| 08:47.36 | tokyojase | no |
| 08:47.40 | tokyojase | first by apt-get, then by tar |
| 08:47.49 | tokyojase | I think the tar install might be causing problems |
| 08:48.03 | tokyojase | how do I uninstall the tar bind install? I just spent 20 unfruitful minutes on google |
| 08:48.23 | DawnLigh1 | is gkrellm the prettiest of it's kind? |
| 08:48.53 | maligor | I'd say kde4 plasmoids are, but that's not exactly the same thing |
| 08:49.22 | DawnLigh1 | right and i don't have that yet |
| 08:50.10 | SerajewelKS | tokyojase: 'make uninstall' from the directory you did 'make install' |
| 08:50.27 | tokyojase | make: *** No rule to make target `uninstall'. Stop. |
| 08:50.29 | tokyojase | hm |
| 08:50.50 | amphi | tokyojase: make -n install | less to see what it did, and manually undo it |
| 08:51.10 | tokyojase | that gave me about 20 pages of stuff |
| 08:52.15 | amphi | tokyojase: you can probably use grep to filter it down |
| 08:52.39 | SerajewelKS | why does gnome-volume-manager depend on xsane? |
| 08:52.59 | tokyojase | is there perhaps a bit more of an automatic way to uninstall..? |
| 08:53.09 | SerajewelKS | erm sorry, it sugests it |
| 08:53.10 | cast | does it depend or indirectly recommend? |
| 08:53.12 | SerajewelKS | suggests* |
| 08:53.20 | SerajewelKS | gnome-office depends on it |
| 08:53.22 | cast | well suggests are not automagically installed. recomends are |
| 08:53.25 | SerajewelKS | still a wtf, but less so |
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| 08:55.28 | tokyojase | anyone...? |
| 08:56.10 | cast | tokyojase: did it install in /usr/local |
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| 08:57.04 | tokyojase | seems like it, yep |
| 08:57.37 | tokyojase | ./usr/bin/install -c isc-config.sh /usr/local/bin |
| 08:57.51 | tokyojase | thats the last line after make -n install |
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| 09:00.29 | tokyojase | ....anyone? :(( |
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| 09:00.57 | amphi | why not just delete the files make installed, already? |
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| 09:01.53 | tokyojase | basically because I don't know if thats the right thing to do, and I don't know how to sift through 20 pages of stuff to find those files, and I don't know if they're referenced somewhere else, and I wanted a clean uninstall procedure |
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| 09:04.35 | massmc_ | hi, I have a nvidia 7600.. I know I have to find the nvidia-glx package but its not in synap.. any help please |
| 09:05.11 | cast | fwiw what i do is have a dedicated using, build. then i have /usr/local/stow/program-im-installed/ owned by build. and then a configure --prefix=/usr/local/stow/program-im-installing/. that way the build scripts can't touch my greater system |
| 09:05.23 | cast | i have a dedicated user, build* |
| 09:05.37 | tokyojase | I see |
| 09:05.43 | tokyojase | good ideas, I should have done that |
| 09:06.42 | cast | isn't so much of a fan of running things as root |
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| 09:07.02 | tokyojase | now that I've done that though |
| 09:07.06 | tokyojase | any ideas..? |
| 09:07.18 | cast | do you still have the tarballs extracted directory |
| 09:07.22 | cast | so you can make uninstall |
| 09:08.21 | tokyojase | yes, I still have it |
| 09:08.22 | tokyojase | I tried that |
| 09:08.31 | tokyojase | make: *** No rule to make target `uninstall'. Stop. |
| 09:08.59 | cast | is there any logs in there saying what it did? |
| 09:09.24 | tokyojase | to install, I did this : |
| 09:09.25 | tokyojase | ./configure |
| 09:09.30 | tokyojase | make && |
| 09:09.30 | tokyojase | make install |
| 09:09.56 | tokyojase | log files... perhaps, but I can't see any |
| 09:10.06 | tokyojase | wait, config.log ? |
| 09:10.11 | cast | nfi bro |
| 09:10.33 | tokyojase | seems like theres a config.log file with lots of install info |
| 09:10.55 | mrnice` | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/lenny_di_beta2/i386/iso-cd/debian-LennyBeta2-i386-netinst.iso Download is stalling, can someone test it |
| 09:11.04 | tokyojase | crap. I think I just overwrote it when I did ./configure again |
| 09:11.04 | valdyn | tokyojase: install it again, this time tracking what got installed, with "checkinstall" |
| 09:11.05 | tokyojase | arrrghhhh |
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| 09:11.18 | tokyojase | ok.. |
| 09:11.25 | tokyojase | with "checkinstall" ? |
| 09:11.57 | cast | !checkinstall |
| 09:11.57 | dpkg | it has been said that checkinstall is a program that tracks all files installed by "make install" (or equivalent), creates a Debian (or other) Package with those files, and adds it to the installed packages database, allowing for easy package removal or distribution. http://asic-linux.com.mx/~izto/checkinstall/ | Not in etch because http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=57724#57724 Ask me about <stow>. |
| 09:12.14 | cast | fondles stow quietly |
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| 09:12.57 | cast | i'm all for people playing in /usr/local, without touching the rest of the system. that way they can't fuck it up :) |
| 09:12.59 | tokyojase | hm, I've gone through those sites, but I can't figure out the command line |
| 09:13.12 | tokyojase | ./configure |
| 09:13.17 | tokyojase | make install -checkinstall |
| 09:13.17 | tokyojase | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:13.35 | cast | hmm, in that link, "The Debian System, Martin Krafft explains clearly why it should never be used by serious Debian users. |
| 09:13.35 | valdyn | tokyojase: checkinstall is a program, not a command line switch |
| 09:13.41 | valdyn | tokyojase: and its documented |
| 09:13.56 | cast | seeks out this explaination of why checkinstall is to be avoided |
| 09:14.03 | tokyojase | E: Couldn't find package checkinstall |
| 09:14.05 | tokyojase | hm |
| 09:14.19 | valdyn | cast: checkinstall does what it does, not more, not less, nothing inherently bad about it |
| 09:14.22 | cast | it got removed from etch because it was buggy |
| 09:14.58 | cast | valdyn: certainly. but is there a better way? |
| 09:15.11 | cast | valdyn: and if so, surely we should advocate it? |
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| 09:15.32 | valdyn | cast: i dont know about anything better |
| 09:15.34 | Nyle | hi |
| 09:15.47 | tokyojase | it seems kind of nuts there isn't a slightly more automatic way to uninstall this |
| 09:16.04 | valdyn | tokyojase: youre just lazy to read the docs |
| 09:16.12 | valdyn | tokyojase: checkinstall is very easy to deal with |
| 09:16.21 | tokyojase | I've spent hours trying to fix this |
| 09:16.30 | sladi | Hi! I added the multimedia repo to my sources list. How can I install mplayer from there? I tried installing it but it seems to be the normal version (1.0~rc2). |
| 09:16.30 | tokyojase | I don't think I'm lazy. maybe just focussed in the wrong direction |
| 09:16.34 | Nyle | don't long or hard, work smart |
| 09:16.51 | Nyle | seriously, hardwork is for people who are dumb |
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| 09:17.47 | Nyle | !lag |
| 09:17.47 | dpkg | rumour has it, lag is the reason fnord has so many meanings |
| 09:17.48 | Ghost-R | finally flash worked :) |
| 09:17.57 | Nyle | flash sux0rz |
| 09:18.06 | tokyojase | I would give my left nad to work smart |
| 09:18.10 | tokyojase | sadly, I lack linux smarts |
| 09:18.18 | tokyojase | right now, anyway |
| 09:18.25 | Nyle | linux is not about smart, its about knowledge |
| 09:18.42 | Nyle | the more you know, the better decisions you can make base don that knowledge, the 'appearance' of smart |
| 09:18.42 | Ghost-R | smart work comes only after hard work! |
| 09:19.01 | cast | valdyn: is stow a better way? :) |
| 09:19.07 | valdyn | !dh_make |
| 09:19.12 | Nyle | "No man is smart, except to those who know less by compaison" |
| 09:19.17 | Nyle | :D |
| 09:19.31 | valdyn | cast: probably |
| 09:19.36 | Nyle | good night! |
| 09:19.42 | valdyn | cast: but not what he needs |
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| 09:20.33 | bolt | "W: GPG error: http://security.debian.org stable/updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG A70DAF536070D3A1 Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (4.0/etch) <ftpmaster@debian.org>" |
| 09:20.38 | bolt | wtf? |
| 09:20.47 | valdyn | cast: dh_make works too |
| 09:21.01 | cast | dh_make is good |
| 09:21.17 | cast | reading the new maintainers guide, while using it, is a good plan |
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| 09:22.46 | mhymn | Ghost-R: if i were you i would write some kind of howto for myself for the future, might be useful, who knows! ;) |
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| 09:24.02 | sladi | sorry, I haven't added multimedia :P |
| 09:24.14 | Ghost-R | mhymn, I dont have blogs like you do so I could write ON ;) |
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| 09:26.50 | mhymn | Ghost-R: i don have either! i have a wiki on localhost though :D |
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| 09:27.24 | Ghost-R | mhymn, link plz |
| 09:27.56 | mhymn | Ghost-R: its localhost as i said, on my own system |
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| 09:28.58 | DawnLight | i've heard that in lenny there's a change about acpi or /proc/acpi or something. can anyone explain? |
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| 09:29.14 | Ghost-R | mhymn, what the point if others cant see ? :P |
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| 09:30.29 | Ghost-R | Cory, pong! |
| 09:30.37 | deus___ | lol, indeed |
| 09:30.45 | Ghost-R | :P |
| 09:30.49 | sladi | I added the multimedia repo to my sources list. How can I install mplayer from there please? |
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| 09:31.08 | Ghost-R | sladi, apt-get install mplayer ? |
| 09:31.18 | Ghost-R | after apt-get update |
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| 09:33.16 | sladi | Ghost-R: I already have mplayer installed from the official Lenny repository. I did aptitude update and dist-upgrade. Interactive aptitude doesn't show the svn version of the multimedia repo. |
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| 09:33.32 | enouf | someone ban Cory |
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| 09:34.49 | Kamping_Kaiser | Maulkin, ty |
| 09:34.49 | enouf | thanks Maulkin |
| 09:34.50 | Ghost-R | eh these spammers |
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| 09:40.38 | SpeCon | how do i untar .tar.gz2 in debian ? |
| 09:41.17 | cast | google. |
| 09:41.26 | cast | wait..wtf is gz2? |
| 09:41.32 | cast | run file *.gz2 |
| 09:41.34 | SpeCon | dunno either |
| 09:41.38 | quagga | yeah, it is probably a .gz or a .bz2 |
| 09:41.40 | SpeCon | its a tar |
| 09:41.43 | cast | is probably a typo |
| 09:41.50 | SpeCon | i need to know :) |
| 09:41.56 | cast | if it's a tar, then extract as for a tar ;P |
| 09:42.46 | bolt | When running apt-get update I get this: "W: GPG error: http://security.debian.org stable/updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG A70DAF536070D3A1 Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (4.0/etch) <ftpmaster@debian.org>" ... the latest version of debian-archive-keyring is installed already. help?! |
| 09:43.05 | SpeCon | tar -zxvf didn't worked |
| 09:43.13 | cast | that's for a .tar.gz |
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| 09:44.11 | sladi | Ghost-R: Thanks! I didn't download the keyring. ^^ |
| 09:44.18 | quagga | bolt: i just update again. not all of the mirrors have an un-broken gpg key |
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| 09:46.37 | valdyn | SpeCon: -jxvf |
| 09:47.22 | abchirk | .. |
| 09:47.47 | enouf | !ops Penol is ctcp ping flooding |
| 09:47.47 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: enouf complains about: Penol is ctcp ping flooding |
| 09:48.02 | Penol | enouf: I dont, I make a statestic |
| 09:48.05 | Penol | *stats |
| 09:48.11 | Penol | for fun |
| 09:48.12 | abchirk | enouf more ctcp-version :) |
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| 09:48.27 | azeem_ | Penol: things like that are not welcome in most chans |
| 09:48.37 | Penol | sry |
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| 09:48.46 | abchirk | Penol but first you need to ask all in here for the admission |
| 09:48.50 | azeem_ | Penol: if you want to continue to stick around here, I suggest you convince us you won't ever do it again |
| 09:48.57 | Penol | ok |
| 09:49.08 | bolt | quagga: tried. also changed mirror from the norwegian one to the swedish one. same result. another machine fetching the same mirror has no error |
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| 09:50.10 | Vitamin | Hello, I'm having a dpkg related issue.. and I'm pretty lost I'm getting the error : E: sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg retruned an error core (1) |
| 09:50.16 | kzar | Does anyone know which package I need to install to get the id3v2mux command? I have already installed all the gstreamer plugins, libtag1c2a and libtagc0. |
| 09:50.31 | wols | Vitamin: FULL output |
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| 09:50.35 | Vitamin | This happened while installing nfs-kernel-server when I closed out of it in the middle of installation by accident. |
| 09:50.43 | Vitamin | Okay just a second let me ssh into the box. |
| 09:50.44 | jayeola | rolls sleeves up and tries to get acpi to work on thinkpad X30 and lenny |
| 09:51.14 | jayeola | closes lid and watches laptop unable to wake up ... lost |
| 09:51.24 | amphi | jayeola: thinkwiki.org may have useful info |
| 09:51.37 | jayeola | ty |
| 09:51.41 | kzar | Or equally does anyone know HOW I can find out which package contains the id3v2mux command? |
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| 09:52.00 | amphi | kzar: apt-file |
| 09:52.09 | wols | kzar: /msg dpkg search |
| 09:52.15 | Vitamin | http://pastebin.com/d430dca07 |
| 09:52.22 | Vitamin | There is the output for my error |
| 09:52.23 | enouf | thanks azeem |
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| 09:52.45 | Vitamin | I hope someone can help me, everything was going so great with my brand new server install |
| 09:52.47 | Vitamin | And now this! |
| 09:52.48 | wols | Vitamin: see line 8 |
| 09:53.15 | Vitamin | Okay, I'm looking at it now |
| 09:53.23 | Vitamin | Should I try to remove that? |
| 09:54.02 | Vitamin | As far as I can see, there is now /var/cache/debconf |
| 09:54.14 | Vitamin | there is no*** |
| 09:54.16 | Vitamin | Sorry |
| 09:54.19 | khaleel5000 | Hello, I have ati X1650 pro graphy,I want to try Propritory drivers, on lenny, should I build from ati's .run or install from debian's repository |
| 09:54.22 | kzar | amphi: Thanks that ruled it out anyway |
| 09:54.26 | wols | Vitamin: that's bad |
| 09:54.26 | khaleel5000 | (any suggestions) |
| 09:54.37 | wols | kzar: ati's are not supported at all here |
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| 09:54.54 | Vitamin | Really? |
| 09:55.03 | Vitamin | Is that a sign of some serious problem? |
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| 09:55.12 | wols | yes. a broken debconf |
| 09:55.13 | Vitamin | I just installed this OS today |
| 09:55.20 | wols | very much broken |
| 09:55.25 | Vitamin | Heh, how do I repair it? |
| 09:55.44 | kzar | wols: What do you meen? |
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| 09:55.58 | wols | your disk lost files. how do you know the debconf stuff is the only thing lost? |
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| 09:56.11 | SoRcS | Sup |
| 09:56.19 | wols | kzar: was for khaleel5000 |
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| 09:56.25 | kzar | ok gotya |
| 09:56.29 | Vitamin | Hmmm.... |
| 09:56.34 | jayeola | closes lid and sees if it will wake up again :/ |
| 09:56.43 | Vitamin | I'm not really sure, I was using apt-get normally installing some packages |
| 09:57.03 | Vitamin | And it brought up a prompt and I couldn't get out so I had to force my way out |
| 09:57.05 | wols | did you have to reboot and fsck? |
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| 09:57.14 | Vitamin | No, not at all |
| 09:57.23 | Vitamin | Apt-get broke, but the rest of the system is running fine |
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| 09:58.00 | Vitamin | Aside from being a brand new OS install with no updates |
| 09:58.24 | Vitamin | You think that it's a sign of some other issue? |
| 09:59.11 | khaleel5000 | wols: thanks for reply, well a suitable google's keyword or a channel for propritory support? |
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| 09:59.55 | soulchild | Hi all, what is the sed command to check if the first char is a "i" ? |
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| 10:01.53 | Vitamin | Hey, sorry about that.. |
| 10:01.55 | cast | #sed |
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| 10:02.16 | Vitamin | So how do I go about fixing a broken debconf? |
| 10:03.14 | soulchild | Other Question: How do I get the first char of a string in a bash script ? |
| 10:03.51 | khaleel5000 | wols: sorry for the trouble, I got ati channel on this server,my negligence. |
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| 10:05.53 | wols | khaleel5000: the debs of flgrx are supported, the .run installer isn't and it will break your debian in the longer run |
| 10:06.06 | trifler | Guys what should I use to "lock" my computer with? I dont want a screensaver just that the screen goes black and on "activation" a minimalistic litte box springs to life saying password. |
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| 10:06.37 | petemc | soulchild: FOO=ABCDE ; echo ${FOO:0:1} |
| 10:07.03 | cast | toor: trifler so what do you want then. |
| 10:07.06 | amphi | trifler: there's xtrlock, but it doesn't blank the screen; you could use xset for the latter |
| 10:07.14 | Vitamin | Oh well, thank you guys for being helpful as always, I'll ask again later. |
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| 10:07.30 | amphi | trifler: no box, you just type your password, and it unlocks |
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| 10:07.58 | trifler | amphi: That is xset? |
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| 10:08.09 | amphi | trifler: no; xtrlock |
| 10:08.29 | trifler | amphi: That sounds nifty ty |
| 10:08.40 | amphi | trifler: to blank the screen, I do 'xset dpms force standby' here |
| 10:08.42 | bolt | argh! one of my machines get a GPG error with invalid signature on security.debian.org, while the others don't. why oh why? |
| 10:09.18 | amphi | trifler: xtrlock changes the cursor to a rather crude padlock ;) |
| 10:09.26 | AKISHA | someone have openvpn under debian? |
| 10:09.49 | bolt | AKISHA: someone probably does, yes. just ask your question |
| 10:10.06 | jayeola | lenny rant alert: boot up, close lid within 30s of booting and X does not resume. (methinks it's the kernel as this never hapened in sarge) |
| 10:10.31 | trifler | I do and I've even tried it between my stationary debian comp and my laptop running arch. It worked! |
| 10:12.57 | nkuttler | !tell Vitamin about errors |
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| 10:13.40 | Vitamin | Oh |
| 10:13.43 | amphi | jayeola: perhaps you should try tuxonice |
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| 10:14.04 | Vitamin | Okay, this is the error when I "apt-get -f install" |
| 10:14.15 | Vitamin | Or attempt to install anything else |
| 10:14.16 | xst | How do I recover ALL deleted files using ntfsundelete? |
| 10:14.23 | Vitamin | debconf: DbDriver "config": could not open /var/cache/debconf/config.dat |
| 10:14.29 | Vitamin | whoops |
| 10:14.38 | Vitamin | http://pastebin.com/d430dca07 |
| 10:14.43 | Vitamin | There is the pastebin link |
| 10:14.54 | mazzanet | what an interesting problem |
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| 10:15.04 | mazzanet | whenever i reboot |
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| 10:15.13 | mazzanet | i have to manually restart bind and kerberos before they'll work |
| 10:15.22 | alturiak | Hmm... has there been any recent apache or php upgrade in lenny that would make apache only look for "index.php" and not for other files stated in the "DirectoryIndex"-Directive? |
| 10:15.29 | jayeola | amphi: i dunno. i can't even run tail -f /var/log/foo because i have to completely init 0 the laptop in order to be able to do anything with it |
| 10:15.36 | AKISHA | this error i have: http://pastebin.com/m23720ca6 |
| 10:15.43 | Hoxzer | How can I know which dev-node my mobile phone is ? It is connected through USB but there are no ttyUSB*'s in /dev I'm trying to setup wvdial |
| 10:16.13 | nkuttler | Vitamin: never seen that... did you try reinstalling debconf? |
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| 10:16.43 | amphi | Hoxzer: nothing in your logs when you plug the thing in? |
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| 10:17.31 | ArmEagle|CZ | hmm, I ran fdisk -l /dev/sda on this usb disk.. and it has some I/O errors. I can't manage to kill fdisk though.. |
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| 10:18.15 | mazzanet | any mdadm gurus? |
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| 10:22.41 | valdyn | ArmEagle|CZ: thats expected |
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| 10:23.36 | valdyn | ArmEagle|CZ: fdisk will die as soon as it returns from the system call(s), but that can be a while |
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| 10:24.50 | ArmEagle|CZ | valdyn yeah, eventually it died. |
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| 10:28.00 | enouf | jayeola: is that an ibm? |
| 10:28.04 | BoomSie | !games BoomSie |
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| 10:30.40 | enouf | jayeola: the reason i ask, is i heard a kern dev speak about a lot of changes breaking many ibm bioses ACPI and such .. the talk wasn't about that per se. but the discussion was on .25 stable release, so maybe fixed since .. i don't have any other info other than that about it, but you can see the talk yourself if you like |
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| 10:35.14 | valdyn | AKISHA: bridge-utils - Utilities for configuring the Linux Ethernet bridge |
| 10:35.56 | valdyn | enouf: ibm-acpi is now thinkpad-acpi and a rewrite |
| 10:36.09 | enouf | ugh, sounds almost exactly like the Foxconn mobo debacle http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=869249 |
| 10:36.22 | AKISHA | oke |
| 10:36.32 | enouf | valdyn: cool, as of kernel version? |
| 10:36.35 | AKISHA | bridge-utils is already the newest version. |
| 10:36.47 | valdyn | enouf: not sure, probably .24 |
| 10:37.02 | enouf | ok, thanks,. i'll look into it |
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| 10:38.20 | valdyn | enouf: etch will probably have issues because of that, lenny is now ok with it, as far as my experience goes |
| 10:38.55 | valdyn | ..but i dont know about anything serious, just broken hotkeys |
| 10:38.58 | nigma | hi all, there is any way to perform a login in one line only? I need to put it in a bash script, su does not seem to have that option |
| 10:39.17 | enouf | valdyn: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=ae92bd17ff703b3703562148c73b4d6833e6a326 <== goes back to atleast .23, but i found more and more patches for variious things in .24 and .25 |
| 10:39.22 | valdyn | nigma: thats stupid, dont do it, find a good solution |
| 10:39.45 | nigma | that's not stupid :D |
| 10:39.50 | AKISHA | valdyn: what you think, this bridge utils dont help, maybe i need bridge ethernet in kernel/networking section enabled? |
| 10:39.51 | valdyn | nigma: yes, it is. |
| 10:39.59 | nigma | no it is not. ;) |
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| 10:40.09 | valdyn | AKISHA: maybe you should use a debian kernel |
| 10:40.32 | valdyn | nigma: you'd best state the actual issue to get a decent solution |
| 10:40.51 | valdyn | nigma: scripted login is not it, in most cases |
| 10:40.59 | nigma | the password will be asked |
| 10:41.06 | nigma | it will be a var in the script |
| 10:41.09 | AKISHA | ok |
| 10:41.42 | nigma | actually it's not a script but a program performing shell commands |
| 10:41.44 | valdyn | nigma: thats not the actual problem, what are you trying to do? |
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| 10:42.38 | nigma | my program is executed from the webserver that has no permission to do somethings, I want to login from remote (without ssh) and tell my php script to do something |
| 10:43.06 | nigma | I'll give the password, it will be not stored in any place |
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| 10:43.27 | nigma | I need oneline-script to login |
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| 10:44.13 | nigma | and i can't ssh 127.0.0.1 |
| 10:44.29 | nigma | if you can't help stop to say it's _stupid_ |
| 10:44.37 | Yamazaki-kun | Interesting problem: Installed a base system of etch on my Wind U100 (Advent 4211, r8169 driver), with no extras checked, and the Ethernet port doesn't work -- shows up in ipconfig, dhclient sends some sort of frames (not correct ones), but nothing happens. Install the standard software and desktop environment sets as well, and it's fine. Is this expected behavior? |
| 10:45.39 | valdyn | nigma: you can use sudo |
| 10:46.16 | nigma | my host service did not installed it xD |
| 10:46.26 | valdyn | !installit |
| 10:46.26 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! *** Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. If someone suggests an application to you, it's highly likely that it's available via apt-get or aptitude. |
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| 10:47.56 | nigma | valdyn: can you really give the pass as parameter with sudo? |
| 10:48.13 | valdyn | nigma: you dont need a pass with sudo |
| 10:48.32 | valdyn | nigma: ( depending on how it is configured ) |
| 10:48.41 | nigma | Ah ok |
| 10:48.47 | nigma | I see what you mean |
| 10:48.53 | nigma | that's not the case :| |
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| 10:50.54 | enouf | Yamazaki-kun: interesting,. which installer? etch 4.0r4? and have you tried 'expert{gui}' mode yet? with still not ticking off any tasksel options |
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| 10:51.45 | Yamazaki-kun | Didn't try that one. I'm trying to get this box set up for a trip on Tuesday, and it's working the way I've got it, so I'll have to make a note to look into that when I get back. |
| 10:51.53 | Yamazaki-kun | Yeah, 4.0r4. |
| 10:52.24 | Yamazaki-kun | At least, I expect so -- whatever unetbootin loads. |
| 10:52.42 | enouf | Yamazaki-kun: i thought i might of heard bout a bug being reported mentioned dhclient is not default set to -plow mode or something in it's dpkg-reconfigure, or something like that - check BTS please - and see the installation guide, as far as params you can pass at boot: prompt - as well as f1-f10 keys |
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| 10:53.04 | hetOrakel | hi, i'm having 3Gb of mem. and my system is using 885 as mem and 964 as swap. where is the leaving 1151 |
| 10:53.05 | Yamazaki-kun | Yay. And here I was thinking dhclient was pretty much plug-and-play. |
| 10:53.24 | cahoot | hetOrakel: got a 486 kernel? |
| 10:53.26 | varlon | hi, I have laptop hp nc6400 with intel 945GM onboard video and I using debian lenny. Is it passible to use VGA (external) monitor and laptop monitor with full resolution? May be you know where can I ask it too?? |
| 10:53.36 | enouf | Yamazaki-kun: i very possibly have my info all messed up, wrong pkgs etc .. so |
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| 10:53.55 | cahoot | hetOrakel: get a 686 kernel (or another with highmem support) |
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| 10:54.51 | vorsprun_ | hetOrakel, what does "cat /proc/meminfo" say |
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| 10:55.07 | vorsprun_ | hetOrakel, esp. "MemTotal" |
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| 10:55.21 | enouf | hrm, does intel have any channels like #radeon and #nvidia do? |
| 10:55.24 | cahoot | varlon: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12 |
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| 10:55.38 | varlon | cahoot, thanks |
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| 10:57.54 | nigma | how can I, by bash scripting, use a program that ask for data by prompt? (instead of asking them as parameter on the same line used to run the program) |
| 10:57.55 | cahoot | enouf: no need since they are so simple to set up ;) |
| 10:58.04 | enouf | i recall reading (something about) it wasn't possible, but maybe that was the radeon only i was reading about :-/ -- let's go to the wiki ;-) |
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| 10:59.40 | enouf | cahoot: heh, yeah right, tell that to the people i see in here (with various intel GSM chipsets) who cannot even get regular resolution on their laptop monitor :-P |
| 10:59.40 | wols | what's the env var for g++ again. gcc is CC. Is it CXX? |
| 11:00.02 | enouf | i think so, yes wols |
| 11:00.12 | enouf | CXXFLAGS? |
| 11:00.30 | wols | not flags. the compiler |
| 11:01.37 | enouf | not sure then, you know where you could ask though ;-) |
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| 11:02.11 | Yamazaki-kun | nigma: look at the read builtin? |
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| 11:02.35 | sly007 | Hello, with my debian generic kernel, udev monitor shows "uevent ... add /class/rtc/rtc0 (rtc)" (and then udev applies rules). On my custom kernel, it shows "uevent ... add /devices/pnp0/00:06/rtc/rtc0 (rtc)" and that's it, it doesn't create /dev/rtc0. Why is that? |
| 11:03.40 | varlon | I didn't found #intel channel for asking |
| 11:03.44 | varlon | :) |
| 11:03.59 | nigma | Yamazaki-kun: O_O I just tried it, it exists, but has no manual, and does not do anything O_O |
| 11:04.47 | wols | hmm... is there a nice script somewhere which goes through a directory and changes ALL filenames to lowercase only? |
| 11:04.51 | hetOrakel | vorsprun_, Memtotal = 906492kB |
| 11:04.52 | Yamazaki-kun | http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bashref.html#Bash-Builtins |
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| 11:05.21 | cahoot | hetOrakel: uname -r |
| 11:05.54 | enouf | wols: doesn't tr do that easily? |
| 11:06.04 | cahoot | rename? |
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| 11:06.33 | cahoot | rename?i e the perl script |
| 11:06.39 | enouf | wols: anyways; gcc -v --help | less then search for \+\+ |
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| 11:07.48 | hetOrakel | cahoot, it is 2.6.25-2-486 |
| 11:07.54 | cahoot | hetOrakel: get a 686 kernel (or another with highmem support) |
| 11:07.59 | hetOrakel | you were right... |
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| 11:10.19 | enouf | yeah, forgot about that nice example in man rename ;-P |
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| 11:10.39 | spaceninja | is there a stable and testing version? |
| 11:10.42 | spaceninja | and a unstable? |
| 11:10.54 | enouf | but to be sure you have prename, do readlink -f `which rename` |
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| 11:11.12 | spaceninja | I'm getting this iso now! http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/lenny_di_beta2/i386/iso-cd/debian-LennyBeta2-i386-netinst.iso |
| 11:11.29 | spaceninja | is it a "good" one? |
| 11:11.36 | spaceninja | if you want newer software? |
| 11:11.42 | enouf | spaceninja: that's testing/lenny |
| 11:11.52 | enouf | spaceninja: /msg dpkg releases |
| 11:12.13 | spaceninja | I don't like the stable version, the software is so old |
| 11:12.23 | wols | enouf: found http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/convert-filenames-lowercase however no subdir changes |
| 11:12.25 | spaceninja | I believe old software is a security issue |
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| 11:12.51 | diveli | spaceninja: yes, it's probably more secure :) |
| 11:12.56 | enouf | wols: how about find ... exec mv or tr, or rename ? |
| 11:13.12 | cast | spaceninja: debian stable is uptodate security wise. |
| 11:13.29 | spaceninja | so the packages are patched? |
| 11:13.33 | cast | yes. |
| 11:13.44 | spaceninja | I don't like patches |
| 11:13.56 | cast | then stop using software |
| 11:14.09 | spaceninja | it should be written properly from the beginning :) |
| 11:14.17 | spaceninja | or change the version |
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| 11:14.28 | enouf | wols: http://wooledge.org:8000/UsingFind 5. Actions find ... -exec bash -c \ 'name=${1##*/}; upper=$(echo "$name" | tr "[:lower:]" "[:upper:]"); echo "$name -> $upper"' _ {} \; |
| 11:14.39 | enouf | or something |
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| 11:15.12 | cladhaire | I'm using debian stable, but I'm having an issue with mysql that I've not run into before. I currently have 12 instances of mysqld running, that all dumped their pid on top of the others to the pidfile: http://debian.pastey.net/93017 |
| 11:15.13 | hoxu | hur, does nvidia binary installer work on 2.6.26? |
| 11:15.22 | spaceninja | which program should I install sofware with? |
| 11:15.28 | hoxu | spaceninja, aptitude |
| 11:15.38 | spaceninja | ok |
| 11:15.42 | cladhaire | Any ideas why mysql might be misbehaving so badly? |
| 11:15.47 | enouf | cast: he's a known troll - but thought he was serious this time - sigh |
| 11:15.59 | cast | ahh |
| 11:15.59 | hoxu | who's troll? |
| 11:16.09 | cast | somes troll and confused are difficult to tell apart :\ |
| 11:16.35 | enouf | he's been tossed into the b0z0 box in the past - might be making a return trip soon ;-) |
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| 11:16.54 | spaceninja | <--- http://www.caveyourtrolls.com/img3.jpg |
| 11:17.00 | hoxu | pokes enouf with a fork... between the eyes |
| 11:17.14 | enouf | they are .. but you get good, but 100% detection is almost impossible ;-) |
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| 11:18.03 | hoxu | enouf, would love that question answered :P |
| 11:18.19 | hoxu | as for 2.6.26 + nvidia installer, selfreply: yes it does work |
| 11:18.50 | enouf | hoxu: oh , didn't see your question ... and .. no idea |
| 11:19.15 | hoxu | enouf, you have no idea who was trolling here? :P |
| 11:19.42 | enouf | hoxu: no :-) |
| 11:19.53 | hoxu | good, I thought I was found out. |
| 11:19.59 | spaceninja | hoxu: Is it me? :) |
| 11:20.13 | enouf | returns the favor to hoxu using a spork |
| 11:21.47 | spaceninja | I heard someone said that debian is the supreme mother of bloat, is that true? |
| 11:22.19 | spaceninja | how tidy is the debian filetree? |
| 11:22.20 | hoxu | !start a recommends war |
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| 11:22.25 | hoxu | hmm... |
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| 11:22.38 | hoxu | !start an install-recommends war |
| 11:22.38 | dpkg | apt-get now installs a minesweeper when I told it to install bacula. *sob* |
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| 11:23.07 | hoxu | spaceninja, about as tidy as the table manners of average troll |
| 11:23.08 | kzar | Is it just me or does goobox display album art for an album automatically but then give no option to save this picture when ripping the CD? |
| 11:23.42 | cast | always deletes those pictures anyway ^_^ |
| 11:23.51 | hetOrakel | cahoot & vorsprun_, thanks MemTotal now says 3116952kB |
| 11:23.57 | kzar | cast: does it create the picture for you though? |
| 11:24.27 | cast | nah, never used that. last time i ripped a cd was years ago, with grip |
| 11:24.43 | cahoot | abcde + cdcover |
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| 11:25.24 | cahoot | err disc-cover |
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| 11:26.13 | kzar | cahoot: Those programs seem to be used to generate a CD cover, I wanted to download a picture of the CD's cover |
| 11:26.21 | kzar | if that makes sense?! |
| 11:26.35 | cahoot | I think I understand at last |
| 11:26.40 | kzar | I meen instead of generating my own cover I wanted to download the album art |
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| 11:27.19 | kzar | goobox downloads the album picture for you which is cool but then doesn't seem to save it when you rip the CD |
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| 11:27.51 | cahoot | kzar: long since I used it but IIRC dsic-cover pulled in the 'orgonal' cover picture |
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| 11:28.28 | hoxu | is there a way to turn mass storage debug on/off in kernel without recompiling? |
| 11:29.01 | cast | Error: PDF version 1.6 -- xpdf supports version 1.5 (continuing anyway) |
| 11:29.02 | cahoot | hoxu: search kernel-parameters.txt for an option? |
| 11:29.06 | cast | wonders what the difference is |
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| 11:33.18 | hoxu | cahoot, guess not :( |
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| 11:33.39 | soulchild | Hi all,... is there a QT frontend partition editor ? like gparted for KDE ? |
| 11:33.53 | hoxu | soulchild, qtparted |
| 11:33.58 | hoxu | !tell soulchild about search |
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| 11:34.22 | soulchild | hoxu: no package found |
| 11:34.46 | soulchild | hoxu: ahh its in unstable |
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| 11:36.32 | cladhaire | If i have an issue with the mysql-server-5.0 package, specifically with the fact that its spawning 12 mysql daemons that are all trying to overwrite each other, what is the best way to get in contact with someone who can help? Should I contact one of the maintainers directly, or is there a better channel? |
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| 11:36.57 | cast | valdyn: hmm, read the debian system bit about checkinstall, looks like a nice quick way to create debs. but with scope for toasting your system :\ |
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| 11:38.55 | lbt | I just upgrade my nfs-common (testing) and found my username mapped to 'nobody' - this |
| 11:39.10 | cast | valdyn: a situation it mentions is a install script adding a line to /etc/passwd, on removing such a checkinstall created deb it would remove /etc/passwd |
| 11:39.14 | lbt | I mentioned this yesterday and it's apparently a feature |
| 11:39.35 | lbt | but it breaks my nfs-mounted home directory |
| 11:40.00 | lbt | b4 logging a bug I thought I'd see if there was something I've done wrong |
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| 11:47.59 | sly007_ | Hello, I am using my custom kernel, when I use udevadm monitor I only see uevents, when I reinstall udev and rerun udevadm monitor, i can see the same uevents but with udev rules events now. Why is that? |
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| 11:48.56 | cast | ahh hmm |
| 11:49.04 | cahoot | sly007_: still struggling with rtc? |
| 11:49.16 | Devil_Kin | did something break with udev recently? |
| 11:49.34 | sly007_ | cahoot: yes |
| 11:49.41 | cahoot | sly007_: rtc_cmos, rtc_core and rtc_lib are loaded? |
| 11:49.42 | abrotman | recently? |
| 11:49.46 | cast | reads that non-free isn't supported by the debian security team |
| 11:49.48 | sly007_ | cahoot: yes |
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| 11:49.57 | Devil_Kin | after yesterday's update in sid it seems to stop working |
| 11:49.58 | JensNDS | re |
| 11:50.13 | hoxu | cast, really? |
| 11:50.14 | Devil_Kin | s/stop/have stopped/ |
| 11:50.18 | cahoot | sly007_: (on lenny here) /dev/rtc0 gets created |
| 11:50.18 | sly007_ | Devil_Kin: is the question for me? |
| 11:50.37 | abrotman | Devil_Kin: check the BTS |
| 11:50.43 | sly007_ | cahoot: I know, and with the generic kernel 2.6.26 it is also created. |
| 11:50.46 | Devil_Kin | abrotman: did so, couldn't really find anything |
| 11:50.49 | cast | hoxu: that's what 'the debian system' says, it also says regarding contrib 'the security team does not tend to contrib' |
| 11:50.53 | sly007_ | It is not created with my custom one |
| 11:51.01 | Devil_Kin | that's why i came here to ask |
| 11:51.01 | cahoot | sly007_: this is a custom kernel |
| 11:51.04 | abrotman | Devil_Kin: if you can find useful info .. you can file a bug |
| 11:51.04 | sly007_ | although the /sys/class/rtc/rtc0 exists |
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| 11:51.17 | sly007_ | So it's just a /dev entry creation problem |
| 11:51.22 | sly007_ | hence a udev problem |
| 11:51.30 | abrotman | Devil_Kin: or wait to see if you get a better answer here |
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| 11:51.59 | sly007_ | I ran udevadm monitor, I get the same uevents thant with the generic kernel |
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| 11:52.09 | cast | hoxu: makes sense though. there's a reason its in non-free |
| 11:52.13 | sly007_ | but then no udev rules apply! |
| 11:52.34 | cast | hoxu: best security response you could do would be to pull it from stable ^_^ |
| 11:52.51 | Devil_Kin | abrotman: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=489839 it's basically this bug... reintroduced |
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| 11:55.13 | sly007_ | What's strang is that if I reinstall udev I get the udev rules applied |
| 11:55.46 | sly007_ | excepti the UDEV [1217760569.089616] add /class/rtc/rtc0 (rtc) one |
| 11:56.12 | sly007_ | but I get UDEV [1217760569.088980] add /module/rtc_cmos (module) and UDEV [1217760569.089874] add /bus/pnp/drivers/rtc_cmos (drivers) |
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| 11:56.52 | sly007_ | Why is resintalling eudev make some rules apply |
| 11:57.12 | abrotman | well .. he left while i was reading the bug .. |
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| 11:58.39 | sly007_ | What is in the "Setting up udev" script? Does it look at my custom kernel? |
| 11:59.38 | hishamfathi | http://www.3lom-mans.montadalhilal.com |
| 11:59.42 | hishamfathi | http://www.3lom-mans.montadalhilal.com |
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| 11:59.46 | hishamfathi | http://www.3lom-mans.montadalhilal.com |
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| 12:03.28 | zxxd | is there a XEN patch package for applying to the debianized deb source ? |
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| 12:08.38 | cast | 0 ~$ grep sync /etc/passwd |
| 12:08.39 | cast | sync:x:4:65534:sync:/bin:/bin/sync |
| 12:08.43 | cast | that's rather interesting. |
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| 12:09.16 | abrotman | why? |
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| 12:09.38 | lxsameer | hi , i need the address of compiz-fusion repository for debian etch. |
| 12:10.07 | jelly-home | cast: changelog says it's been there since at least 2003 |
| 12:10.31 | abrotman | !tell lxsameer about bpo |
| 12:10.49 | cast | i had never thought there was a user i could login as to sync the disks |
| 12:11.42 | lxsameer | abrotman : compiz-fusion is not in backport reb |
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| 12:14.17 | abrotman | lxsameer: it's named 'compiz' |
| 12:15.08 | abrotman | at least .. i think that's the right one |
| 12:15.10 | lxsameer | abrotman : i want compiz-fusion not compiz |
| 12:15.21 | abrotman | lxsameer: look at the veresion .. not the name |
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| 12:16.19 | abrotman | i think that's compiz-fusion .. |
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| 12:18.27 | abrotman | !tell sly007_ about selftell |
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| 12:19.47 | nagaozen | How to install a debian server with hardware raid 0 ? |
| 12:19.51 | sly007_ | tell abrotman about how to solve sly007_ problem with udev and his custom kernel |
| 12:20.23 | lxsameer | abrotman : no thats not |
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| 12:22.15 | itchi | nagaozen: Take a good look during the install process, especially when it come to create the partitions, you can do that there |
| 12:22.45 | itchi | nagaozen: for hardware raid, there's nothings specials to do, soft is during the install process ^ |
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| 12:23.42 | itchi | nagaozen: You should take a look in the BIOS of that RAID card if you want to do HW. Create there the array and it's ok |
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| 12:24.51 | valdyn | !sata raid faq |
| 12:24.59 | valdyn | !fakeraid |
| 12:24.59 | dpkg | fakeraid is, like, term used for controller cards that advertise RAID functionality that is NOT supported by a hardware chip for parity. Most of these have only a BIOS ... if you use them with Debian it's suggested that you don't set a RAID in the BIOS and don't use dmraid, just use regular software RAID (ask me about <md>). see <sata faq> |
| 12:26.09 | idimmu | !hug |
| 12:26.10 | dpkg | hugs idimmu |
| 12:26.15 | idimmu | <3 |
| 12:26.46 | abrotman | !sata faq |
| 12:26.46 | dpkg | http://www.linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html or http://linux-ata.org/ |
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| 12:32.07 | itchi | I may have a cool RAID card then, yeah, Pinguin logo on the box :-p |
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| 12:44.06 | cr3rzemjest | hi |
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| 12:46.07 | cr3rzemjest | 1. how to find out what video device is used when i boot up the system? (vesa ,vga ,svga etc? ) 2. i searched google for available vga modes, and i found it, but how do you actually get this information in your system? i think it should be somewhere? |
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| 12:47.55 | khaleel5000 | hello, how do I add a nofree repository in my apt list? i am running lenny |
| 12:48.11 | schu | hello. does anyone know if there is a odbc-driver for progress openedge on debian (or as a source pack for compiling) available? |
| 12:48.20 | Kamping_Kaiser | !nonfree |
| 12:48.20 | dpkg | somebody said non-free was a component which contains software that does not comply with the <DFSG>. To add non-free packages to your packages index, ask me about <non-free sources>. To see which non-free packages are installed on your system, ask me about <vrms>. For the Non-free tracking system, see http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/ |
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| 12:49.54 | Kamping_Kaiser | cr3rzemjest, re 2. xorg.conf i probably a good start, or are you refering to boot? |
| 12:50.52 | khaleel5000 | Kamping_Kaiser: thanks |
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| 12:56.15 | DawnLight | hi |
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| 13:00.03 | DawnLight | i've a thinkpad t30 with a pentium 4 cpu that has multiple frequency steps. i'd like scaling to be managed automatically but i'm not sure which governor to use because the /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq doesn't exist. what creates this directory? |
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| 13:00.23 | cr3rzemjest | Kamping_Kaiser, yes i mean boot |
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| 13:01.00 | Kamping_Kaiser | cr3rzemjest, grub boot parametres |
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| 13:01.34 | cr3rzemjest | i'm afraid it is not what my question was about |
| 13:01.51 | abrotman | yes it is |
| 13:02.37 | DawnLight | hi abrotman |
| 13:02.52 | cr3rzemjest | like, when i've had older kernel the 'vga=719' etc didn't work; however, the parameters that would work were like "80x40" etc... so what was the video device? |
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| 13:03.56 | Cliff_Breaker | hi. I have troubles running compiz. Can anyone help? |
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| 13:04.14 | unixSnob | i opened up the auto.smb file that was automatically created, and it's a script -- not at all what I was expecting from the documentation |
| 13:04.43 | unixSnob | if /etc/auto.smb is a script, where should the samba mount points be configured? |
| 13:06.37 | abrotman | /etc/samba/smb.conf ? |
| 13:06.41 | abrotman | hi DawnLight |
| 13:07.04 | Cliff_Breaker | hi. I have troubles running compiz. Can anyone help? |
| 13:07.29 | unixSnob | abrotman: that's where I configure shares... now i'm trying to add autofs mounts |
| 13:08.19 | unixSnob | (to mount other shares on other systems) |
| 13:08.22 | abrotman | unixSnob: fstab ? |
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| 13:09.36 | unixSnob | abrotman: fstab works for mounting on boot, and mounting when the mount command is used... but autofs mounts as the need arises |
| 13:09.41 | lbt | I just upgrade my nfs-common (testing) and found my username mapped to 'nobody'. I mentioned this yesterday and it's apparently a feature - but it breaks my nfs-mounted home directory. b4 logging a bug I thought I'd see if there was something I've done wrong. Any ideas? |
| 13:10.00 | unixSnob | i'm trying to make use of the autofs package |
| 13:10.01 | lbt | This is on a client, not a server. |
| 13:10.12 | abrotman | unixSnob: ah .. no idea then |
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| 13:10.29 | lbt | unixSnob: autofs or autofs5? |
| 13:11.06 | unixSnob | lbt: i'm not aware of autofs5... just ran apt install autofs |
| 13:11.24 | unixSnob | lbt: and /etc/auto.smb turns out to be a script |
| 13:11.29 | lbt | autofs5 is the next version - just better all round |
| 13:11.31 | lbt | yes |
| 13:11.36 | lbt | that's how they work |
| 13:12.07 | unixSnob | lbt: the docs tell me to use auto.smb to declare mount points |
| 13:12.34 | lbt | could you be confusing autofs with am-utils (the amd automounter) |
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| 13:13.18 | unixSnob | lbt: i've not heard of am-utils |
| 13:13.22 | wm4 | where's the package linux-kbuild-2.6.26 in unstable? |
| 13:13.56 | unixSnob | lbt: but i've even search forums, and other folks are using auto.smb as documented, with a mount point on each line |
| 13:14.04 | streuner_ | wm4: /msg dpkg sid faq |
| 13:14.05 | unixSnob | s/search/searched |
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| 13:14.46 | wm4 | streuner_: the word kbuild is not found on that site |
| 13:14.53 | lbt | what docs are you using? man autofs |
| 13:15.02 | Cliff_Breaker | When executing compiz --replace everything disappears from the screen except the wallpaper. What's the problem? |
| 13:15.47 | unixSnob | lbt: i believe i looked in the man pages, as well as http://www.greenfly.org/tips/autofs.html |
| 13:16.03 | unixSnob | double checks man pages |
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| 13:17.00 | lbt | typically autofs works by looking at access to a root dir |
| 13:17.12 | lbt | then the directory accessed is used as a hostname |
| 13:17.24 | lbt | all exports from that host are mounted under it |
| 13:17.26 | Cliff_Breaker | When executing compiz --replace everything disappears from the screen except the wallpaper. What's the problem? |
| 13:17.43 | lbt | so if auto.master contains: |
| 13:17.52 | unixSnob | lbt: the man pages make no mention of auto.smb, because that file is used by convention; it's not compulsory |
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| 13:18.08 | lbt | then you cd /smb/server/ |
| 13:18.16 | lbt | and all server's exports are there |
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| 13:18.36 | unixSnob | lbt: i don't follow |
| 13:18.40 | Cliff_Breaker | When executing compiz --replace everything disappears from the screen except the wallpaper. What's the problem? |
| 13:18.47 | unixSnob | lbt: I see understand that autofs gets it's direction from auto.master |
| 13:18.54 | lbt | yes |
| 13:19.10 | lbt | and it 'mounts' an instance of a process on the specifief directory |
| 13:19.13 | lbt | sounds odd |
| 13:19.19 | lbt | but think of it like that |
| 13:19.27 | lbt | then, when you access /smb |
| 13:19.35 | lbt | automount is awakened |
| 13:19.43 | lbt | and if you access /smb/server/ |
| 13:19.45 | unixSnob | well auto.master names the files containing mount point lists |
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| 13:19.48 | lbt | it is passed 'server' |
| 13:19.58 | zxxd | is there a XEN patch package for applying to the debianized deb source ? |
| 13:20.21 | lbt | maybe things are different with autofs5 - I didn't think so |
| 13:20.49 | Cliff_Breaker | When executing compiz --replace everything disappears from the screen except the wallpaper. What's the problem? |
| 13:20.56 | unixSnob | lbt: i don't have a /smb folder |
| 13:21.01 | lbt | mkdir /smb |
| 13:22.03 | unixSnob | lbt: lemme ask this way. I want to automount //someserver/share to ~user/share. where is that configured? |
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| 13:22.26 | lbt | OK - apt-get install autofs5 |
| 13:22.36 | lbt | (then we're on the same page) |
| 13:23.14 | unixSnob | lbt: apt-cache search autofs5 comes up empty |
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| 13:23.38 | unixSnob | i've got the standard repositorys, and the backport thing |
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| 13:23.50 | lbt | sorry then, I guess it's a later release :) |
| 13:24.08 | lbt | you could still try : mkdir /smb; echo /smb /etc/auto.smb >> /etc/auto.master |
| 13:24.29 | lbt | restart autofs and then ls /smb/someserver |
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| 13:25.04 | lbt | (note you have to type "someserver" - it is automagically created when you access it) |
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| 13:26.31 | Cliff_Breaker | When executing compiz --replace everything disappears from the screen except the wallpaper. What's the problem? |
| 13:27.29 | unixSnob | lbt: auto.master has that line in it.. i just need to comment it in. however, how does autofs know which shares to mount? The docs say that's kept in auto.smb |
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| 13:27.50 | lbt | it's magic ;) |
| 13:27.58 | lbt | or at least v. cool |
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| 13:28.20 | lbt | if you access a 'file' called 'someserver' in /smb |
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| 13:28.30 | lbt | then the automount will interogate 'someserver' |
| 13:28.40 | lbt | create a directory called 'someserver' |
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| 13:28.47 | lbt | and then automount all the exports |
| 13:28.52 | lbt | in the blink of an eye |
| 13:28.54 | unixSnob | lbt: using which account? |
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| 13:29.16 | unixSnob | lbt: each share needs login creds |
| 13:29.47 | lbt | ah - you got me |
| 13:29.50 | lbt | I use nfs |
| 13:30.04 | lbt | so little details... |
| 13:30.05 | unixSnob | //someserver/share is not for guest access, for example |
| 13:30.23 | unixSnob | hmm.. supposedly auto.smb is where that's configured.. but it turns out to be a script |
| 13:30.37 | lbt | the script should have options that can be changed... |
| 13:30.41 | lbt | or extended |
| 13:30.48 | lbt | they are 'sample' scripts |
| 13:30.50 | wm4 | does anyone know if the hardware that needs the pata_marvell module works again on 2.6.26? |
| 13:31.02 | wm4 | there was a regression in 2.6.25 that made it stop working |
| 13:31.07 | lbt | but I just don't use smb I'm afraid - no smb servers here either... |
| 13:31.30 | unixSnob | lbt: that wouldn't work.. each named share could potentially use different credentials |
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| 13:31.43 | abrotman | the .26 is only in sid |
| 13:31.59 | lbt | OK, I'm afraid I'm out of suggestions then - sorry I couldn't help. |
| 13:32.24 | wm4 | abrotman: was that to me? well, I'm on sid |
| 13:32.32 | abrotman | so try it |
| 13:32.43 | unixSnob | i wonder if there was a radical change to how auto.smb is used, and the docs weren't updated |
| 13:32.48 | unixSnob | lbt: well you gave me a lead.. i'm going to comment in the /smb line in auto.master |
| 13:32.57 | wm4 | abrotman: I didn't try it yet because I can't compile some external stuff due to lacking kbuild on i386 |
| 13:33.13 | wm4 | if only half of my hardware works, I can stay on 2.6.24 as well |
| 13:33.14 | abrotman | who cares about compiling |
| 13:33.24 | abrotman | it's packaged in sid |
| 13:33.26 | unixSnob | lbt: perhaps it prompts the user trying to access for creds |
| 13:33.30 | helo_ | for some reason after much inactivity i am no longer able to use my wireless link negotiated via wpa_supplicant... so i have to re-run wpa_supplicant with all of its args and then rerun dhclient wlan0... is there an easier way to make wpa_supplicant keep my link up? |
| 13:34.19 | cahoot | your router closing connection? |
| 13:34.21 | lbt | unixSnob: no- no prompting |
| 13:34.38 | abrotman | wm4: what external stuff do you have to compile? |
| 13:34.45 | helo_ | there isn't any option i can find in the admin tool that closes it |
| 13:34.47 | unixSnob | lbt: yeah, it works fine for anonymous mounts... just tested it. but the non-guest mounts don't even appear |
| 13:34.52 | abrotman | wm4: in order to test your contorller |
| 13:34.56 | lbt | but where it says 'opts= |
| 13:34.59 | wm4 | abrotman: the nvidia closed source driver |
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| 13:35.21 | abrotman | can't you just .. not use it? |
| 13:35.24 | unixSnob | lbt: it just says 'no such file or directory' when I try to access a share that needs creds |
| 13:35.25 | lbt | you may be able to specify some mappings based on the current uid |
| 13:35.27 | helo_ | looks like i get 'DISCONNECT EVENT' every so often, but it appears wpa_supplicant renegotiates the link when that happens |
| 13:35.35 | wm4 | abrotman: oh, the controller could be tested of course |
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| 13:36.09 | wm4 | I guess I'll better test it now, after these 45 days of uptime |
| 13:36.20 | wm4 | I could still return to 2.6.24 |
| 13:36.27 | abrotman | thought the nvidia stuff was packaged in sid |
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| 13:36.46 | wm4 | abrotman: m-a won't work without kbuild for the correct kernel version |
| 13:37.12 | helo_ | should wpa_supplicant reconnect whenever a network is in range? |
| 13:37.13 | noboru | help please, how come my server is like this now ---> load average: 25.74, 32.93, 106.46 |
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| 13:37.27 | peppe | helo_: nope, it's not a network manager |
| 13:37.30 | noboru | and in the meantime,the apache connection is only 300 |
| 13:37.42 | peppe | noboru: too many processes? swap trashing? |
| 13:37.50 | noboru | strange is, when try to access to the web,it says too many connectinos of mysql |
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| 13:38.31 | noboru | peppe, no,only several apache and mysqld is running |
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| 13:38.52 | peppe | noboru: "several" == 10k? :P |
| 13:38.59 | noboru | usually the load average is like : 0.2x 0.4x. and 0.3x |
| 13:39.08 | noboru | how come now its load average: 25.74, 32.93, 106.46 |
| 13:39.23 | cahoot | top? |
| 13:39.38 | stew | noboru: run "vmstat 1" and watch it for a few seconds, are the so or si columns non-zero? |
| 13:39.43 | helo_ | from its man page... "In addition, it controls the roaming and IEEE 802.11 authentication/association of the wireless LAN driver" |
| 13:39.59 | noboru | peppe, oh gees, the swap is using 1GB now,usually its less than 100mb |
| 13:40.02 | wm4 | noboru: well, what processes eat up all the cpu time? |
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| 13:40.18 | noboru | stew, please wait |
| 13:40.43 | eraldo | greetings... I am looking for a labeling system that works with linux... any ideas/suggestions ? |
| 13:40.53 | noboru | wm4, mysql uses 7%,others are stated as 0 |
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| 13:41.07 | helo_ | eraldo: i like sticky notes |
| 13:41.15 | eraldo | the perfect solution for me would be something like the Brother PT-2100.. |
| 13:41.19 | noboru | wm4, and it says too many mysql connections, strange, usually when there are many mysql connection it won |
| 13:41.29 | eraldo | helo_: sorry not an option :) |
| 13:41.31 | Vi^3PP | Im gettting the following errors from dcop. KDE 3.5.9 with Lenny. http://www.debiantutorials.org/talkitup/index.php?topic=2258.msg5399#msg5399 |
| 13:41.31 | noboru | it won't give such a big load average |
| 13:41.38 | hipodilski | Is there a way to generate some web statistics from already gathered machine statistics with sysstat? |
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| 13:41.56 | wm4 | I wonder why the load average is so high when no processes use cpu time, I thought these values were directly related |
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| 13:42.50 | noboru | stew, no,both of them are non-zero |
| 13:42.59 | eraldo | however I could not find any sources telling me whether the Brother PT-2100 works under linux |
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| 13:43.19 | stew | noboru: then you ran ouf of real memory and you are swapping |
| 13:43.40 | stew | noboru: the reason for the high load is that lots of processes are in the D state waiting for their turn with the disks to use virtual memory |
| 13:44.23 | stew | not many processes are listed as having a high CPU % becuase they are always waiting on memory requests before they can do more processing with the CPU |
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| 13:44.41 | noboru | stew, i see,and those of "too many processess' most probably are coming from the mysql connecting requests maybe ?because it is saying too many connections of mysql on the web. |
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| 13:44.53 | vampirefrog | hi guys. I'm trying to link two computers with network cards and cable, but when I do that, none of the LEDs on the cards light up. one computer is running debian and the other is trying to network boot |
| 13:45.07 | abrotman | vampirefrog: crossover cable ? |
| 13:45.14 | stew | noboru: sort top by memory "M" and see what is using a lot of memory |
| 13:45.19 | helo_ | eraldo: then it may not work... if "linux pt-2100" or "cups ..." doesn't give anything, then you could try finding what printing protocol the printer uses |
| 13:45.22 | vampirefrog | abrotman: what does that mean? |
| 13:45.29 | abrotman | vampirefrog: google |
| 13:45.34 | vampirefrog | abrotman: should I switch the ends? |
| 13:45.46 | noboru | stew, how ? |
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| 13:46.00 | stew | noboru: sort by memory by hitting M |
| 13:46.17 | abrotman | vampirefrog: either get a crossover cable, or a switch/hub |
| 13:46.22 | Vi^3PP | vampypengy meets vampyfroggie an goes to terrorize the dark forests ;) |
| 13:46.49 | vampirefrog | oh :( |
| 13:46.51 | stew | vampirefrog: if you could change an end, you'd make a crossover cable by switching pins 1,2 with pins 3,6 |
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| 13:47.06 | noboru | stew, mysql 9.6% |
| 13:47.17 | vampirefrog | can't change the pins cause I'll need the cable later |
| 13:47.22 | vampirefrog | and i might break it |
| 13:47.26 | vampirefrog | i do have a router |
| 13:47.37 | vampirefrog | but afaik I can't program it to help me with network boot |
| 13:47.44 | vampirefrog | the router is connected to the internet |
| 13:47.45 | noboru | stew, only mysql is 9.6%,others such like apache and blah are less than 0.x% |
| 13:47.48 | abrotman | who said router? |
| 13:47.55 | vampirefrog | abrotman: that's all I have :) |
| 13:47.56 | stew | abrotman: vampirefrog did |
| 13:48.07 | abrotman | vampirefrog: either get a crossover cable, or a switch/hub |
| 13:48.12 | vampirefrog | :( |
| 13:48.21 | vampirefrog | ok |
| 13:48.22 | vampirefrog | thanks |
| 13:48.23 | noboru | too many mysql conenctions |
| 13:48.33 | stew | vampirefrog: if your router has multiple 'lan' ports, you can treat those as a switch |
| 13:48.39 | noboru | shall i change the numbers of mysql to a larger value ? |
| 13:48.48 | stew | noboru: a smaller value |
| 13:48.54 | stew | noboru: or buy more memory for the machine |
| 13:48.58 | vampirefrog | stew: it has one WAN port and 4 LAN ports, 2 used |
| 13:49.08 | noboru | data centre told me,there is no attack currently according to their hardware firewall |
| 13:49.08 | peppe | noboru: if you're trash swapping, reduce mysql/apache children |
| 13:49.34 | noboru | okay |
| 13:50.07 | helo_ | eraldo: http://solutions.brother.com/linux/sol/printer/linux/cups_drivers.html |
| 13:50.11 | clif4d | Hi, is there any way to get dv video grabbing from a firewire cam to work in lenny at the moment, without using a custom kernel? |
| 13:50.17 | stew | noboru: if mysql is using so much memory that it is making your machine swap (and there is no other applications using a lot of memory), then you should reconfigure mysql to not be able to use so much memory |
| 13:50.20 | vampirefrog | stew: can I do anything with that? |
| 13:50.25 | stew | vampirefrog: yes |
| 13:50.31 | vampirefrog | stew: do tell :) |
| 13:50.43 | helo_ | eraldo: it says at the bottom there "Any models that are not listed here... are not supported." |
| 13:50.47 | helo_ | and it isn't listed there |
| 13:50.48 | noboru | it keeps saying mysql is using 9% which is the highest of cpu usage. |
| 13:51.09 | noboru | stew, I see. |
| 13:51.09 | stew | vampirefrog: if you need a switch, and have a router with multiple LAN ports, you can treat those LAN ports as a switch |
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| 13:51.25 | stew | noboru: forget cpu usage, cpu usage is not a problem for you |
| 13:51.39 | noboru | yeah mysql,thank you very much stew ,let me do it. |
| 13:51.42 | vampirefrog | stew: so how would I do the wiring? |
| 13:52.26 | stew | vampirefrog: plug each computer into a lan port |
| 13:52.27 | abrotman | #networking ? |
| 13:52.50 | vampirefrog | stew: note that one of the computers needs to boot a dhcp server which supplies a boot file(name) |
| 13:53.02 | stew | vampirefrog: ok |
| 13:53.11 | vampirefrog | abrotman: thanks :) |
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| 14:02.29 | vampirefrog | stew: found it. I'll just disable the router's dhcp server and use manual config and a dhcp server on the debian computer |
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| 14:06.09 | jaunny | how do i create pdf documents from .doc ones? i tried antidoc but it says utf8 and pdf are problem |
| 14:06.14 | horror101 | After I reset the BIOS on my computer, MBR is acting strange. I've tried reinstalling both GRUB and LILO but it's not working |
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| 14:06.48 | horror101 | I even tried installing vista bootloader, even that isn't working |
| 14:06.49 | jaunny | i have not gnome, only x |
| 14:06.54 | eraldo | helo_: okay.. so I'll change to use a pc-only printer instead.. |
| 14:07.02 | horror101 | Anyone got a clue what might be wrong? |
| 14:07.34 | TiredWolf | i'm using Testing, and my Epson RX500 scanner worked with SANE until some time ago (I suppose an upgrade may have occurred in the middle, but I can't pinpoint it exactly). Now, "scanimage -L" lists no device, although "sane-find-scanner" still shows it. What could I try doing? |
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| 14:13.10 | cahoot | TiredWolf: root is not luckier? |
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| 14:13.27 | TiredWolf | no, cahoot |
| 14:13.35 | wols | TiredWolf: missing device file due to udev? |
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| 14:15.19 | TiredWolf | wols, not sure really. now i seem to have things like /dev/usbdev3.2_ep00 instead of the /dev/usb/* i used to have. i hardly follow all these device node naming changes... :| |
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| 14:15.30 | helo_ | eraldo: for non-general-purpose printers, you may have trouble finding any linux drivers |
| 14:15.50 | wols | eraldo: linuxprinting.org |
| 14:16.22 | TiredWolf | what i do see in syslog that looks slightly suspicious to me is: Aug 3 16:05:37 ljlhead kernel: usb 1-2: usbfs: interface 1 claimed by usblp while 'saned' sets config #1 |
| 14:16.32 | helo_ | not to mention software that allows you to print barcodes or really weird paper sizes... particularly those that would be useful in a labelling system, where you'd want to generate barcodes and numbers, and store them in a database when printing them |
| 14:16.33 | TiredWolf | (the RX500 is indeed a printer, but it's also a scanner) |
| 14:17.06 | helo_ | the latter probably doesn't exist at all in linux... |
| 14:17.12 | cahoot | and has a udev rule |
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| 14:19.16 | TiredWolf | helo_, actually, barcode/label generators seems to almost abound... |
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| 14:21.09 | helo_ | TiredWolf: there are programs to generate barcodes, and programs to store values in a database, but not programs that do both together, afaik |
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| 14:21.55 | BrianHV | I'm using stable with security updates. openssl is up to date (0.9.8c-4etch3) but the CSR it generates still apparently has a compromised key. is there something else I need to do to get up to date? |
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| 14:22.09 | cahoot | TiredWolf: did you check perms etc on /proc/bus/usb/.. etc? |
| 14:22.54 | cahoot | lsusb should simplify lookup |
| 14:23.05 | TiredWolf | cahoot: yes, i've long had an ugly crontab hack changing those to root:scanner |
| 14:23.18 | BrianHV | libssl. right. |
| 14:23.26 | cahoot | udev didn't do it? |
| 14:23.40 | nuxis | I'm considering going to the test release (lenny), like to live on the edge. but will I encounter problems in dependencies / programs in general (like *huge* bugs) when upgrading etch to lenny? |
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| 14:24.56 | DawnLight | nuxis: report them |
| 14:25.29 | soulchild | hi all, I am going to work as a computer admin on a german university and wanted to ask, is there good software to work in a network with about 200 clients (all GNU Linux based) ? |
| 14:25.34 | TiredWolf | cahoot: i guess not, they're root:root at boot. before, i used to use a proprietary SANE backend by the way (epkowa), but now switched to the standard epson backend in the repositories, which worked. |
| 14:25.36 | nuxis | DawnLight: yea offcourse I'll report bugs, but I mean like just constant programs crashing etc... (can't explain it decently, sorry bout that) |
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| 14:26.48 | cahoot | TiredWolf: well here on lenny libsane.rules has an entry for Epson RX500 |
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| 14:27.50 | cahoot | SYSFS{idVendor}=="04b8", SYSFS{idProduct}=="0807", MODE="0664", GROUP="scanner", ENV{libsane_matched}="yes" |
| 14:29.35 | TiredWolf | cahoot: ye, mine too, but it doesn't apply for some reason. unfortunately i have to leave now anyway, thanks for helping |
| 14:29.39 | DawnLight | nuxis: stuff will brake |
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| 14:35.40 | wm4 | the pata_marvell driver is *still* broken in 2.6.26 |
| 14:35.45 | wm4 | it was already broken 2.6.25 |
| 14:35.50 | wm4 | hell |
| 14:37.15 | wm4 | well, because of this: |
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| 14:37.34 | wm4 | is it possible to make Linux use the BIOS to access the harddisks? |
| 14:38.10 | wm4 | because of this http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10425 |
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| 14:41.07 | Cristatus | hi |
| 14:41.24 | Cristatus | i'm having problems starting my bcm4303 wireless pci card |
| 14:41.33 | Cristatus | can i get some assistance, please? |
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| 14:42.16 | mynullvoid | define problem |
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| 14:42.45 | mynullvoid | Cristatus: what problem? |
| 14:43.20 | Cristatus | it doesn't activate in the network application |
| 14:43.39 | mynullvoid | do you have the module loaded? |
| 14:43.56 | abrotman | and the firmware? |
| 14:44.27 | Cristatus | i hsbbrn'y fonr iy msnusllu |
| 14:44.31 | Cristatus | damn |
| 14:44.35 | Cristatus | i haven't done it manually |
| 14:44.44 | Cristatus | how do i figure out whether it is or not? |
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| 14:45.38 | LemensTS | Hey Im reading here that if your installing a program from source, you want to modify the Makefile to not install the program to /usr/local directory in Debian...is this correct? |
| 14:46.05 | abrotman | LemensTS: uh what? |
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| 14:46.17 | abrotman | likely you'd want to use stow/checkinstall |
| 14:46.24 | LemensTS | http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ch-modify.en.html |
| 14:46.28 | LemensTS | first paragraph |
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| 14:47.00 | abrotman | that's if you're making a package |
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| 14:47.07 | abrotman | are you making a package? |
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| 14:47.27 | Cristatus | mynullvoid, and abrotman: when i click activate in the network settings application, it says "could not enable the interface eth1" so i guess the drivers are loaded, but it's not starting up |
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| 14:47.38 | LemensTS | abrotman: yea |
| 14:47.45 | abrotman | then yes |
| 14:47.57 | abrotman | LemensTS: so don't say "install from source" .. you're creating a package |
| 14:48.35 | LemensTS | abrotman: ok. If i installed from source wouldnt it still be using the Makefile which would install it to /usr/local |
| 14:48.44 | abrotman | suer |
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| 14:50.31 | LemensTS | Then why cant debian packages install there? I see it says because its reserved for admin/usr private use...but I dont understand why you can do it by src but not by .deb package |
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| 14:51.22 | abrotman | LemensTS: they can if you want them to .. but if you want the package in Debian, you can't do that |
| 14:51.25 | cast | because its a rule, the system won't touch /usr/local |
| 14:51.33 | cast | its probably defined that in the LSB |
| 14:52.01 | xingu | checks the old sun/ yardarm alignment |
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| 14:53.02 | LemensTS | ok so when the user runs ./configure, make, make install it is the admin/usr running it so it is ok. But when they run the .deb package, the system is installing it ? |
| 14:53.50 | cast | hmm FHS even |
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| 14:56.00 | LemensTS | Instead of /usr/local, where do you suggest I change it to? |
| 14:56.56 | abrotman | pretty sure that guide tells you |
| 14:57.04 | idimmu | /opt ? |
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| 15:01.13 | unixSnob | does anyone else find it a pain in the ass that the gnome terminal doesn't loop the tabs? Eg. Control-pageUp sends a literal control code to the terminal when it's already on the far right tab |
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| 15:01.40 | DawnLight | unixSnob: report it |
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| 15:02.00 | flower | $ jedit |
| 15:02.01 | flower | Warning: $JAVA_HOME environment variable not set! Consider setting it. |
| 15:02.03 | flower | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:02.04 | flower | Found a virtual machine at: /usr/bin/java... |
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| 15:02.11 | flower | what to do? |
| 15:02.23 | idimmu | nah itll be like export JAVA_HOME=/usr/share/java |
| 15:02.25 | idimmu | or some ting |
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| 15:03.05 | idimmu | er /usr/lib/java even rather than share |
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| 15:04.13 | flower | ~$ /usr/bin/jedit: line 28: /usr/lib/java/bin/java: No such file or directory |
| 15:04.14 | flower | /usr/bin/jedit: line 28: exec: /usr/lib/java/bin/java: cannot execute: No such file or directory |
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| 15:05.11 | lastn0de | where does gdm store its .xml files? i want to add ratpoison as a wm |
| 15:05.59 | idimmu | flower: actually go in to /usr/lib and have a look to see what is in there |
| 15:06.07 | idimmu | and figure it out |
| 15:06.18 | liable | i think /usr/share/desktop |
| 15:06.23 | lastn0de | thanks liable |
| 15:06.26 | liable | or mebbe lib as idimmu says |
| 15:06.38 | liable | its in there somewhere ;) |
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| 15:07.05 | stew | flower: what does "readlink -f $(which java)" return? |
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| 15:07.21 | lastn0de | what is the debian minimal gnome install meta package called? |
| 15:07.44 | stew | lastn0de: /msg dpkg install gnome |
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| 15:07.51 | flower | stew: /usr/bin/gij-4.3 |
| 15:07.57 | lastn0de | stew: got it thanks |
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| 15:08.34 | lastn0de | any idea where gdm stores its wm .conf files? (or was it .xml)? |
| 15:08.56 | maligor | flower, update-java-alternatives sets the defaults |
| 15:09.42 | stew | flower: then JAVA_HOME is going to be something like /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre ; but it might just be that jedit doesn't work with gij |
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| 15:11.07 | gnom | !tell gnom nvidia |
| 15:11.14 | gnom | ! tell gnom nvidia |
| 15:11.22 | stew | !tell gnom about selftell |
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| 15:14.06 | gnom | dpkg nvidia |
| 15:14.06 | dpkg | To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. If you've done it before, ask me about <nvidia one-liner> for a reminder. If using a later release than Etch, ask me about <nvidia_post_etch>. nvidia.com drivers (ie. <nvidia-installer>) are _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia. |
| 15:14.35 | lastn0de | gnom: use /msg dpkg nvidia |
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| 15:14.51 | gnom | iam on irssi ... so better : /msg #debian dpkg nvidia |
| 15:15.08 | gnom | lastn0de: yhx |
| 15:15.09 | lastn0de | gnom: im on irssi too, and /msg dpkg works fine |
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| 15:16.05 | gnom | lastn0de: i got it already, is there also ubuntu specific one ? |
| 15:16.18 | lastn0de | gnom: this is not #ubuntu |
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| 15:16.21 | lastn0de | !ubuntu |
| 15:16.21 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
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| 15:16.34 | abrotman | gnom: go to #ubuntu |
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| 15:16.57 | gnom | dpkg nvidia-oneliner |
| 15:16.57 | dpkg | [nvidia one-liner] apt-get install nvidia-kernel-2.6-`uname -r | sed 's,.*-,,g'` nvidia-settings nvidia-glx && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (if you're on amd64, also install nvidia-glx-ia32). Using sarge? Ask me about <nvidia_sarge>. Homegrown or kernel from testing/sid: <nvidia_post_etch>. If you're using a Geforce2 or older: <nvidia_legacy>. |
| 15:17.07 | abrotman | gnom: go to #nvidia |
| 15:17.14 | abrotman | erm .. #ubuntu |
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| 15:19.33 | gnom | dpkg nvidia |
| 15:19.34 | dpkg | To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. If you've done it before, ask me about <nvidia one-liner> for a reminder. If using a later release than Etch, ask me about <nvidia_post_etch>. nvidia.com drivers (ie. <nvidia-installer>) are _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia. |
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| 15:21.13 | lbt | I just upgrade my client nfs-common (testing) and found my username mapped to 'nobody'. I mentioned this yesterday and it's apparently a feature - but it breaks my nfs-mounted home directory. b4 logging a bug I thought I'd see if there was something I've done wrong. Any ideas? |
| 15:21.28 | underandy | hello, i wonder if its hard to install debian from a usb pendrive to a computer? |
| 15:21.31 | abrotman | !tell gnom about nvidia |
| 15:21.33 | abrotman | !tell gnom about ubuntu |
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| 15:21.57 | abrotman | underandy: /msg dpkg usb install .. one of the links covers that |
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| 15:22.16 | underandy | abrotman thank you :) |
| 15:22.32 | lastn0de | abrotman! |
| 15:22.46 | abrotman | hi |
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| 15:25.39 | rgr | in which package are the c library man pahes (e.g for sprintf)? |
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| 15:25.58 | abrotman | rgr: manpages-dev |
| 15:26.36 | rgr | abrotman: doh. thanks. just spent ages searching in synaptic too! |
| 15:27.07 | Ace2016_- | can you increase the amount of space that a hard drive has reserved to use in the event that it detects a bad sector? |
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| 15:29.23 | wols | Ace2016_-: no |
| 15:29.33 | wols | and it would be futile anyways |
| 15:29.51 | wols | not needed either: you can makr sectors bad with ext3 and they aren't used anymore |
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| 15:32.58 | Nyle | good morning |
| 15:33.18 | Ace2016_- | wols: bu its not my pc, it had xp on it, i need to reinstall it and the reallocated sector count is high |
| 15:33.18 | cast | morning |
| 15:33.34 | wols | then buy a new disk |
| 15:33.56 | Nyle | I have desktop and laptop. both are connected to internet. desktop can ping laptop and ssh to it. laptop can't ping desktop but can get on irc and internet. What can i do to start troubleshooting |
| 15:34.04 | Nyle | cast, wols, mornin |
| 15:34.16 | dvs | snob |
| 15:34.22 | Nyle | hey ol timer |
| 15:34.23 | Nyle | whats up |
| 15:34.33 | dvs | I'm getting a walker! ;-) |
| 15:34.37 | cast | Nyle: check firewall on the desktop? |
| 15:34.41 | Nyle | lol |
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| 15:34.51 | Nyle | dvs, I don't think I should have one |
| 15:35.05 | wols | Nyle: what is the error ping gives? |
| 15:35.06 | dvs | ;-) |
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| 15:35.25 | Ace2016_- | Nyle: either of them behind routers? |
| 15:35.41 | Nyle | ajavid@desktop 1.13 /home/ajavid 1 files using 54k |
| 15:35.42 | Nyle | $>ping laptop |
| 15:35.45 | Nyle | 64 bytes from laptop (192.168.1.200): icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.299 ms |
| 15:35.54 | Ace2016_- | do a tracerout from the desktop |
| 15:36.01 | Nyle | stoned@laptop 0.01 /home/stoned 7 files using 396M |
| 15:36.03 | Nyle | $>ping desktop |
| 15:36.05 | Nyle | From laptop (192.168.1.200) icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable |
| 15:36.14 | wols | do we have to tell nyle what a pastebin is? and why is he telling us about "ping laptop" when it'S the desktop he can't ping? |
| 15:36.19 | wols | question and questions |
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| 15:36.39 | Ace2016_- | traceroute? |
| 15:36.42 | Nyle | I didn't think a few lines matter as much, plus i know how to not get kicked |
| 15:36.52 | Nyle | i'll run traceroute, and both are connected to my router |
| 15:36.59 | wols | Nyle: that alone should get you kicked out of principle |
| 15:37.09 | wols | Nyle: desktop is XP? |
| 15:37.16 | Nyle | debian |
| 15:37.20 | Nyle | both are lenny |
| 15:37.39 | rgr | Nyle: you are running a firewall on the desktop. |
| 15:38.02 | Nyle | traceroute to desktop (192.168.1.150), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 laptop (192.168.1.200) 3003.132 ms !H 3003.127 ms !H 3003.118 ms !H |
| 15:38.26 | wols | either the router is not doing its job (preventing the wlan from "contaminating" the LAN, or you have a firewall |
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| 15:38.38 | Nazcafan | hi |
| 15:38.43 | Nazcafan | what is wnck-applet ? |
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| 15:38.51 | jello | many consumer routers segment the wlan from the lan |
| 15:38.54 | Nyle | !paster |
| 15:38.54 | dpkg | paster is your friendly Debian pastebot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste to have paster paste your results. Ask me about <pastebin> if you want to use another site. |
| 15:39.13 | jello | just find the option in the router config and disable it |
| 15:39.33 | jello | Nazcafan: apt-cache show wnck-applet |
| 15:39.56 | Nyle | http://paste.debian.net/13767/ |
| 15:40.03 | Nyle | jello, which option? |
| 15:40.09 | jello | how should i know? |
| 15:40.12 | Nazcafan | oh my god |
| 15:40.14 | Nyle | jello, I had that option enabled, and then I turned it off |
| 15:40.23 | jello | i don't even knkow what router you have |
| 15:40.24 | Nyle | filter WAN LAN redirection |
| 15:40.34 | jello | sounds close |
| 15:40.38 | Nazcafan | I just realized I was monitoring the cpu activity of a remote computer instead of mine |
| 15:40.42 | abrotman | wonders why this is a Debian question |
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| 15:40.49 | Nyle | jello, good idea i'll check |
| 15:41.01 | Nyle | abrotman, pay attention dude |
| 15:41.03 | Nyle | read up... |
| 15:41.08 | abrotman | i did .. still not a debian problem |
| 15:41.11 | jello | abrotman: b/c we're the universal os :) |
| 15:41.13 | Nyle | not anymore |
| 15:41.17 | abrotman | never was |
| 15:41.19 | dvs | pebkac |
| 15:41.21 | dvs | ? |
| 15:41.22 | Nyle | maybe so |
| 15:41.37 | Nyle | it didn't happen until I changed sid to lenny on my desktop and upgraded after 5 months |
| 15:41.46 | Nyle | so I wan't sure if that knocked it about |
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| 15:42.02 | abrotman | jello: and the universal help desk |
| 15:42.10 | jello | Nyle: Debian is always correct, it must be something else... |
| 15:42.20 | jello | abrotman: only on freenode... |
| 15:42.36 | abrotman | they sure answer a lot of non-debian questions on OFTC .. and give non-debian answers |
| 15:42.58 | dvs | blasphemy! |
| 15:43.00 | jello | Nyle: if Debian is wrong, see #1 |
| 15:43.10 | jello | Nyle: if Debian is still wrong, reportbug ... |
| 15:43.15 | wols | abrotman: why would they do such a thing? |
| 15:43.28 | abrotman | wols: i have theories |
| 15:43.42 | abrotman | Nyle: try plugging laptop into LAN .. does problem go away? |
| 15:43.43 | Nyle | jello, well, at least we know now it wasn't debian related, thankfully |
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| 15:43.48 | Nyle | I almost panicked for a minute |
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| 15:43.57 | Nyle | abrotman, hang on |
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| 15:45.04 | Nyle | abrotman, laptop is plugged into lan (router, as well as desktop) |
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| 15:45.22 | Nyle | I don't know what you mean by plug it in |
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| 15:45.41 | abrotman | i thought the laptop was wireless ? |
| 15:45.43 | wols | Nyle: use the wired eth part of the laptop and plug it into the LAN |
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| 15:46.03 | jello | sometimes, it takes an entire channel... |
| 15:46.09 | jello | *sigh* |
| 15:46.13 | Nyle | wols, yes, I always keep it plugged in |
| 15:46.16 | Nyle | I don't use wifi |
| 15:46.36 | wols | then the wlan separation thing is moot of course |
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| 15:47.00 | Nyle | seems to be, router is configured as it was before, I checked it just now |
| 15:47.01 | abrotman | wow |
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| 15:48.43 | tubbybastard | after upgrading to bind9 on both nameservers, my transfer has stopped working, the configuration is otherwise identical |
| 15:48.57 | tubbybastard | could this have to do with the latest dns patch? |
| 15:48.59 | Ace2016_- | boot a livecd on the laptop and desktop and see if you can ping, they have a default networking configs so you can see if its the OS on the laptop or desktop or the router that is the cause |
| 15:49.15 | Nyle | laptop == no scree, no cdrom drive |
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| 15:49.27 | Nyle | headless/cdromless server |
| 15:49.51 | Ace2016_- | ah |
| 15:49.53 | Nyle | I can't risk rebooting or restarting networking, becuase if it doesn't come back up |
| 15:49.56 | Nyle | I'm fucked |
| 15:49.57 | Greyscale | Install linux onto the hard disk from another machine? |
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| 15:50.05 | Nyle | Greyscale, I'm not trying to install linux |
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| 15:50.17 | Greyscale | Sorry, immediate reaction |
| 15:51.01 | Ace2016_- | laptop has no screen? does it have vga out? |
| 15:51.04 | Nyle | this happened specifically after this. I had sid repos always on this laptop, after lenny froze, I changed sid to lenny, and update/upgraded. I had not done so in months, and a lot of packages were downloaded from lenny and it was ok |
| 15:51.08 | Nyle | Ace2016_-, vga out is broken |
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| 15:51.15 | Nyle | there is no serial port |
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| 15:51.34 | abrotman | it's a dell :) |
| 15:51.39 | Nyle | yes you remembered |
| 15:52.00 | Nyle | same one my professor from oklahoma gave me, screen was always broken, but I took it off |
| 15:52.01 | abrotman | no .. i guessed :) |
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| 15:52.07 | Nyle | cdrom drive is not working anyway |
| 15:52.08 | Nyle | oh |
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| 15:52.48 | Nyle | btw, I also changed my username from stoned to ajavid on desktop |
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| 15:52.55 | Nyle | dunno if it matters |
| 15:53.17 | cahoot | I doubt ping cares |
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| 15:53.41 | abrotman | can the laptop ping the inside of the router? |
| 15:53.59 | Nyle | router can ping 192.168.1.1 yes |
| 15:54.05 | abrotman | laptop |
| 15:54.17 | Nyle | and it can ping google.com |
| 15:54.28 | Nyle | laptop can ping itself too |
| 15:54.29 | cahoot | can router ping desktop? |
| 15:54.46 | Nyle | router can ping both |
| 15:54.58 | maligor | can ping router desktop? |
| 15:55.00 | Nyle | but i'll check again |
| 15:55.09 | Nyle | running command on route rnow |
| 15:55.19 | Nyle | ahh apparantly not |
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| 15:55.42 | cahoot | desktop doesn't like ping? |
| 15:55.46 | Nyle | oh |
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| 15:55.57 | Nyle | hm no |
| 15:56.08 | noboru | Thanks for helps, stew , have a good day. bye. |
| 15:56.12 | streuner | and ifup -a doesn't work? |
| 15:56.13 | cahoot | something turned off in sysctl? |
| 15:56.28 | Nyle | I run ping laptop, it works, i see an output in router, if i do desktop, i get no output, meaning it didn't work |
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| 16:00.01 | Nyle | ok |
| 16:00.14 | Nyle | I made progress, I ssh into router, and ping laptop, check, ping desktop, no dice |
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| 16:00.53 | Nyle | so all of a sudden, my desktop (after going through the same lenny freeze routine from sid) can't respond to pings from other nodes on the lan |
| 16:01.11 | Nyle | because router config wasn't touched |
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| 16:01.55 | seal20 | hello |
| 16:02.20 | Nyle | all my network related config files seem to be ok |
| 16:03.10 | seal20 | i have download the last netinst iso but my network card is not reconized |
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| 16:03.28 | seal20 | i have a macbook pro with |
| 16:03.32 | seal20 | a |
| 16:04.26 | cahoot | Nyle: cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_echo_ignore_all |
| 16:04.31 | lastnode_ | i recently had aptitude remove some gnome stuff, and i reistalled most of the packages, but now dvds wont play in vlc (unprotected dvds) - could someone tell me what gstreamer packages i need? |
| 16:05.47 | cast | libdvdread3 it seems |
| 16:06.02 | cast | grab gstreamer0.8-dvd perhaps |
| 16:06.09 | Nyle | 0 |
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| 16:06.36 | Nyle | well at least I can rest assured its not the laptop |
| 16:06.50 | curtmack | I asked this last night, but I didn't get any answers... is there a way to downgrade from testing to stable without having to reinstall Debian? |
| 16:06.50 | maligor | vlcc doesn't use gstreamer afaik |
| 16:07.20 | lastnode_ | cast: it's gstreamer-0.10 on lenny, but -dvd is not present (libdvdread3 is installed) |
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| 16:07.37 | cast | ahh i use etch |
| 16:07.45 | Nyle | hm |
| 16:07.50 | Nyle | !ping |
| 16:07.50 | dpkg | pong |
| 16:08.03 | lastnode_ | cast: but the -dvd package should be there yes? |
| 16:08.05 | Nyle | oh |
| 16:08.16 | Nyle | it seemed to have wiped out my /etc/network/interfaces in desktop |
| 16:08.19 | Nyle | the file is fucking blank! |
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| 16:09.00 | cast | nfi @ lenny |
| 16:09.10 | Nyle | nfi? |
| 16:09.18 | cast | !nfi |
| 16:09.19 | dpkg | hmm... nfi is No Fucking Idea |
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| 16:11.59 | Nyle | ok |
| 16:12.03 | Nyle | i fixed it |
| 16:12.07 | Nyle | it was a lenny problem |
| 16:12.39 | Nyle | seemingly after that update from 7 months old sid to brand new frozen lenny caused a wiped /etc/network/interfaces |
| 16:13.00 | Nyle | there was no eth0 entry, but the network was still functional but desktop obviously couldn't be pinged |
| 16:13.13 | Nyle | I just put in right info, and ifup eth0 and all is well |
| 16:13.24 | Nyle | time to file a bugreport (which package would I file it on? |
| 16:14.00 | Nyle | !ping |
| 16:14.00 | dpkg | pong |
| 16:15.56 | Nyle | hey dudes |
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| 16:16.13 | Nyle | what package do i file a bug on, upgrade in lenny after freeze caused me to have a blank interfaces file |
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| 16:16.39 | wols | do you have something like gnome-network manager installed? |
| 16:16.47 | Nyle | nope |
| 16:17.02 | Nyle | not even knetworkmanager |
| 16:17.04 | Nyle | I don't use em |
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| 16:17.43 | lastnode_ | oh it appears the automount scripts are broken? |
| 16:17.44 | lastnode_ | weird |
| 16:17.53 | Nyle | lots is kinda broken atm |
| 16:17.56 | Nyle | :) |
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| 16:18.53 | lastnode_ | the removal of what package could have caused that? |
| 16:18.55 | lastnode_ | hmmm |
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| 16:19.18 | lazarus477 | Good morning |
| 16:19.25 | lazarus477 | Hello dpkg |
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| 16:21.10 | lazarus477 | I would like some pointers on figuring out an odd problem with system crashes. |
| 16:21.40 | martian67 | how do i figure out what process is using what tcp port? |
| 16:21.45 | lazarus477 | Every other time when I do a reboot or shutdown from within gnome my Debian Lenny running on an IBM Thinkpad X40 craches. |
| 16:21.52 | martian67 | netstat dosent provide that info |
| 16:22.13 | totooo | martian67 lsof -i |
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| 16:25.34 | rgr | is back (gone for 00:15.23) |
| 16:25.34 | rgr | is back |
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| 16:25.58 | cahoot | we were worried |
| 16:26.19 | rgr | hang on, i slenny now frozen? |
| 16:26.54 | DawnLight | how do i know whether my HDD is spinning? |
| 16:27.06 | cast | touch it |
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| 16:27.17 | jpinx | DawnLight - listen to it - turn your music down ;) |
| 16:27.17 | DawnLight | it's a laptop |
| 16:27.33 | DawnLight | i can't be sure if that's not the fan |
| 16:27.41 | DawnLight | that i'm hearing... |
| 16:27.45 | maligor | disassemble it and touch it |
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| 16:28.14 | rgr | I should change all my repository lines to "lenny" from testing or is it too late? |
| 16:28.21 | maligor | maybe proc or sysfs shows the state |
| 16:28.25 | DawnLight | i was thinking more of a use of cat |
| 16:28.27 | jpinx | does your fan not go off from time to time? |
| 16:29.05 | jpinx | I have a toshiba laptop and the fan only runs when the battery is beig charged |
| 16:29.23 | mhymn | wonders if he should tell about "back" to rgr :P |
| 16:29.49 | rgr | mhymn: so I am too late? Damn. I never new the freeze date had gone by. What are my options? |
| 16:30.05 | mhymn | no, i mean this: |
| 16:30.07 | mhymn | !back |
| 16:30.07 | dpkg | We'll know you're back when you start talking to the channel. No need to announce your presence or absence. see away. |
| 16:30.14 | mhymn | :D |
| 16:30.21 | rgr | huh? |
| 16:30.38 | abrotman | !tell rgr about away |
| 16:30.40 | rgr | Oh I see. That was my irc client (erc in emacs). |
| 16:30.48 | abrotman | so fix it |
| 16:30.53 | idimmu | you irc in emacs? |
| 16:31.02 | idimmu | sick |
| 16:31.07 | lastnode_ | lol |
| 16:31.08 | rgr | I'll turn it off. I cleaned up config files and must have missed that one. |
| 16:31.24 | lastnode_ | what _cant_ you do in emacs? |
| 16:31.30 | lastnode_ | edit text, i know, i know |
| 16:31.31 | idimmu | edit text files |
| 16:31.31 | maligor | DawnLight, hdparm -C /dev/device |
| 16:31.33 | idimmu | damn |
| 16:31.43 | rgr | idimmu: http://delysid.org/emacs/erc.html . excellent. |
| 16:31.48 | lastnode_ | idimmu: and to do everything else you need 12 fingers |
| 16:31.57 | FSWolf_ | hi im tryin to get my mic to work with ubunutu :? |
| 16:31.58 | lastnode_ | rgr: http://irssi.org , best ever |
| 16:32.02 | lastnode_ | !ubuntu |
| 16:32.02 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
| 16:32.05 | rgr | but back to the freeze thing .... |
| 16:32.07 | FSWolf_ | hehe |
| 16:32.11 | idimmu | ill check it out later, i only have a cli terminal atm :/ |
| 16:32.36 | lastnode_ | alight, to bed it is |
| 16:32.37 | idimmu | i have a serious case of trapped in a datacenter, send help! going on :/ |
| 16:32.47 | rgr | lastnode_: yes, but its not in emacs with all the tools and CUI that I am used to. Believe me, when you turn to the emacs side there is no looking back. |
| 16:33.18 | cahoot | rgr I think testing==lenny still |
| 16:33.29 | rgr | (Wonders whether to tell everyone how much better emacs is than vi and thus condemn #debian to a cat fight for the next 4 years ...=) |
| 16:33.47 | DawnLight | my hdd doesn't seem to go to sleep at all. i have laptop-mode-tools installed |
| 16:34.11 | idimmu | snappy package name |
| 16:34.14 | rgr | Anyone? Does "testing" in my sources.list mean I wont "freeze"? Must I change it to "lenny" ? Is it too late to do so? |
| 16:34.16 | abrotman | that can be a BIOS function |
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| 16:36.00 | lbt | I just upgrade my client nfs-common (testing) and found my username mapped to 'nobody'. I mentioned this yesterday and it's apparently a feature - but it breaks my nfs-mounted home directory. b4 logging a bug I thought I'd see if there was something I've done wrong. Any ideas? |
| 16:36.12 | cloakable | rgr: lenny is still testing, so you can change safely |
| 16:37.55 | rgr | cloakable: thanks. |
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| 16:38.43 | cloakable | rgr: no problem :) |
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| 16:38.58 | keith4_ | while installing over a serial console, is there any way to see dmesg output? |
| 16:39.05 | |Marcin| | hi |
| 16:39.20 | |Marcin| | i have question where are files that for example synaptic menager download from net? is this is remowe from hard disc after instalation? |
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| 16:39.57 | abrotman | /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
| 16:40.26 | |Marcin| | thx |
| 16:40.35 | rgr | cloakable: and unstable is sid? |
| 16:40.42 | |Marcin| | and i can remove them? |
| 16:40.49 | |Marcin| | after instal |
| 16:40.49 | wols | yes rgr |
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| 16:41.46 | cloakable | rgr: yup. sid is always unstable - it'll never change :) |
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| 16:42.05 | justin | keith4_: run dmesg? |
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| 16:42.36 | hardcampa | uhm sid will become stable eventually actually |
| 16:42.37 | keith4_ | justin: if you can tell me how to run dmesg while *in* the debian installer, i'll be happy to |
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| 16:42.58 | rgr | dang. And now I get a load of warnings about repositories it can not load. |
| 16:43.05 | abrotman | |Marcin|: there should be a way in synaptic to clean the archive |
| 16:43.50 | justin | keith4_: there is an option in the menu to start a shell |
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| 16:44.01 | abrotman | |Marcin|: in the Preferences .. under the Files tab |
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| 16:44.34 | keith4_ | justin: ah, I will look |
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| 16:44.54 | keith4_ | I'm used to being able to just switch to another virtual console |
| 16:45.12 | voraistos | Hi, do you know what port the default debian postgre runs on ? |
| 16:45.23 | keith4_ | 5432 |
| 16:45.24 | voraistos | or how can i discover that ? :P |
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| 16:45.50 | keith4_ | but, if you just installed (for example) 8.2, and you already have 8.1, it will run on 5433 |
| 16:46.00 | voraistos | ok :) |
| 16:46.10 | voraistos | well, it should be 5432 |
| 16:46.16 | keith4_ | yes |
| 16:46.17 | abrotman | it's in the postgresql conf files |
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| 16:46.26 | keith4_ | netstat can tell you if it's listening, too. or nmap |
| 16:46.39 | voraistos | in fact, i have mediawiki running perfectly... now that i want phpbb, the installer complains |
| 16:46.51 | voraistos | stupid installer |
| 16:46.56 | voraistos | OK :D |
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| 16:49.52 | keith4_ | voraistos: you have mediawiki working with postgresql as a backend? |
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| 16:50.36 | voraistos | yes |
| 16:50.56 | keith4_ | when did that become supported? |
| 16:51.18 | voraistos | hmm i think thats quite recent, they only support 8.1+ i think |
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| 16:51.26 | luser^ | Heya |
| 16:51.36 | luser^ | Anyone tried sugar on debian? |
| 16:51.43 | keith4_ | voraistos: what version of mediawiki? |
| 16:51.45 | luser^ | the olpc sugar desktop |
| 16:51.52 | voraistos | the latest stable |
| 16:52.10 | voraistos | 1.12 |
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| 16:52.38 | voraistos | not a debian package, but postgres is. |
| 16:52.52 | mns | luser^: there is a debian package for that ? where ? |
| 16:52.58 | luser^ | yeah |
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| 16:53.05 | luser^ | I found it in aptitude |
| 16:53.22 | rgr | http://wiki.debian.org/Sugar but oyu would need to be very interested to bother. |
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| 16:53.34 | mns | luser^: for what ? testing ? sid ? |
| 16:53.44 | luser^ | yeah |
| 16:53.46 | rgr | its horrible. innovative and "interesting" but ultimately a mess. |
| 16:53.49 | luser^ | I use sid |
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| 16:54.06 | luser^ | I just wanted to see how it is |
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| 16:54.27 | Assid | heya |
| 16:54.38 | Flinx | hi |
| 16:54.40 | abrotman | luser^: uh .. just try it |
| 16:55.30 | Assid | i have a question regarding lenny, is it stable enough to be used in a production environment.. I kinda need openvz and sources and stuff, and TBH, i dotn dont want to depend on alternate archives/backports |
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| 16:55.37 | luser^ | mns: its there for lenny as well |
| 16:55.51 | abrotman | Assid: public server ? |
| 16:56.01 | Flinx | is there a way to put volume control bas onto the panel? |
| 16:56.11 | Flinx | like where the clock is? |
| 16:56.13 | Assid | as i need access to a working set of kernel sources, and such, as i need to compile zaptel |
| 16:56.17 | Assid | abrotman: yes |
| 16:56.23 | abrotman | Assid: i wouldn't |
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| 16:56.34 | abrotman | zaptel is in etch IIRC |
| 16:56.34 | jpinx | Hola Flinxx - thanks for the help yesterday - all working now and booting into debian ok |
| 16:56.38 | rgr | Flinx: right click , add to panel ... |
| 16:56.49 | Assid | abrotman: my choices atm is ubuntu lts and lenny |
| 16:56.54 | abrotman | Assid: it's stable enough .. but far from secure enough |
| 16:57.03 | abrotman | Assid: why doesn't etch work ? |
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| 16:57.19 | Flinx | I knew that solution |
| 16:57.22 | Flinx | its close enough I gues. |
| 16:57.47 | Flinx | thanks |
| 16:57.48 | Assid | abrotman: asterisk and zaptel i use sources, also i need openvz which i need to use a different archive/mirror |
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| 16:57.50 | rgr | you can then move it. |
| 16:58.18 | abrotman | Assid: well .. it's up to you .. but i wouldn't |
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| 16:59.15 | Assid | abrotman: so im better off with ubuntu ? |
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| 16:59.40 | abrotman | i didn't say that |
| 17:01.04 | curtmack | Does anybody know if it's possible to downgrade from lenny back to etch without reinstalling Debian? |
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| 17:03.45 | voraistos | probably not |
| 17:04.16 | cahoot | curtmack: why? |
| 17:04.45 | curtmack | I've been having some stability problems recently, and I think lenny might be to blame |
| 17:04.57 | Lagbolt | what kind of stability? |
| 17:05.00 | abrotman | curtmack: downgrade not supported |
| 17:05.08 | Lagbolt | programs crashing? hanging? |
| 17:05.15 | cahoot | Lagbolt: the instable kind |
| 17:05.17 | abrotman | curtmack: you can try to force it .. but it might go very badly |
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| 17:05.27 | Lagbolt | lol |
| 17:05.29 | curtmack | complete system crashing |
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| 17:05.42 | abrotman | curtmack: can you isolate the cause? |
| 17:05.45 | Lagbolt | curtmack, when? just randomly or only for certain apps? |
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| 17:06.05 | abrotman | !tell Lagbolt about lol |
| 17:06.40 | cahoot | curtmack: fwiw I've run testing on this T61 since nov 2007, never seen a crash |
| 17:06.51 | Lagbolt | hmm, i dont like heh, i feel like laughter is more than one syllable. can i do heehee? |
| 17:07.15 | curtmack | Lagbolt: There's no particular cause, but it tends to happen after running a single application for a while... I used to think something was overheating, but nothing feels hot after it happens |
| 17:07.17 | Lagbolt | i run lenny on all my machines and no crashes ever |
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| 17:07.28 | Lagbolt | curtmack, try memtest? |
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| 17:07.58 | mhymn | Lagbolt: hehe and haha is also accepted! |
| 17:08.02 | Lagbolt | curtmack, is it old machine? old drives? old MB? cpu? ram? i had a HD go bad and it would hang my machine |
| 17:08.12 | JordiGH | This is weird. I can't connect to http://www.cimat.mx, but if I disable tcp_window_scaling (in /proc/sys/net/ipv4), then I can connect. Can anyone else confirm? |
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| 17:08.24 | mhymn | !haha |
| 17:08.24 | dpkg | laughs!! that's funny mhymn! |
| 17:08.43 | curtmack | Lagbolt: Everything is new except the case. The HD is moderately old but not ancient |
| 17:08.53 | voraistos | curtmack make sure everything is up to date. I heard people complain about a lenny kernel for a bit, i never had a problem, but you may want to check on this. |
| 17:09.26 | Lagbolt | curtmack, well i would start looking at logs, maybe smartmontools on HD, run memtest just to make sure |
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| 17:09.48 | voraistos | dmesg could be your friend too. |
| 17:09.54 | curtmack | Lagbolt: syslog shows nothing about the crash, so I presume the system was pretty well hosed |
| 17:10.03 | justin | JordiGH: not weird at all, may networks still have routers and firewalls that don't work with tcp window scaling |
| 17:10.07 | omry_|work | how do I check which mods are installed into apache2? |
| 17:10.16 | omry_|work | (compiled + enabled) |
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| 17:10.22 | curtmack | sound locks up in a tight loop as well |
| 17:10.35 | JordiGH | justin: Is the admin of that network a bonehead? I think he's a bonehead. Do you think so too? |
| 17:10.52 | Lagbolt | curtmack, well try the other things or maybe boot a live cd and run for a while see if it crashes |
| 17:11.00 | justin | JordiGH: most likely it is that or the specific hardware they are using |
| 17:11.17 | lazarus477 | apachectrl should be able to list the mods installed |
| 17:11.25 | lazarus477 | I do not recal the argument needed though |
| 17:11.44 | JordiGH | justin: Hardware issue? |
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| 17:12.10 | eljefe | I just moved my system from an older motherboard setup with an nVidia graphics card (AGP), to a newer board with integrated Intel graphics (and no AGP port). I am running Lenny; what is the best way to get the Intel drivers going on my XOrg? |
| 17:12.13 | voraistos | hey, who's in charge of the bot ? I cant abuse it ! |
| 17:12.33 | JordiGH | eljefe: Leave your xorg blank. :P |
| 17:12.38 | justin | JordiGH: as in hardware firewall |
| 17:13.04 | JordiGH | eljefe: But if that doesn't work, the driver you want is "intel". |
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| 17:13.10 | eljefe | so it should just auto-select that dfriver? how can I test it? because my screen looks horrible, it isn't sharp/clear at all |
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| 17:13.27 | kalila | test... |
| 17:13.34 | JordiGH | eljefe: You can see if the right driver is chosen in the /var/log/Xorg.0.log or similar. |
| 17:13.36 | kalila | do you guys see this... |
| 17:13.42 | abrotman | no |
| 17:13.48 | JordiGH | !test |
| 17:13.48 | dpkg | Test Failed. |
| 17:13.55 | JordiGH | Sorry, kalila. |
| 17:13.55 | kalila | !test |
| 17:13.59 | Lagbolt | see what? |
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| 17:15.04 | Ace2016_- | Badblocks found 17 bad blocks, is it ok to resume use with this drive? its an 80GB disk |
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| 17:15.15 | eljefe | thanks JordiGH I'm going to test my APCI to see if the shutdown works now; hopefully on reboot i have better screen clarity; I'll be back. |
| 17:16.00 | jhutchins | what's the debian way to list installed packages? |
| 17:16.08 | idimmu | dpkg -l |
| 17:16.08 | dpkg | idimmu: wish i knew |
| 17:16.17 | avu | aptitude search '~i' for example |
| 17:16.24 | avu | idimmu, that won't only list installed packages.. |
| 17:16.33 | idimmu | grep ii |
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| 17:16.40 | abrotman | !tell jhutchins about installed |
| 17:17.04 | Flinx | etch is considered version 4.0 right? |
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| 17:17.20 | stew | Flinx: yes |
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| 17:17.25 | Flinx | I remember seeing that in the version file but i'm paranoid and wanted to double check |
| 17:17.36 | Flinx | kay |
| 17:17.40 | Nyle | so |
| 17:17.42 | Flinx | I stop bothering you guys now |
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| 17:18.01 | supertanker | How can I generate a xorg.conf post-install? |
| 17:18.06 | jhutchins | thank you, dpkg -l <string> was fine. |
| 17:18.08 | Nyle | which package would I file a bug on, if interfaces file was totaled by the an upgrade |
| 17:18.27 | eljefe | JordiGH well APCI works. I am not impressed by my screen tho, any suggestions? Maybe I'll play with Subpixel hinting |
| 17:18.27 | Nyle | minus 'the' |
| 17:18.31 | stew | supertanker: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 17:18.39 | supertanker | Thanks stew |
| 17:18.43 | Nyle | fine |
| 17:18.47 | Nyle | i'll look it up ... |
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| 17:19.00 | stew | jhutchins: note that 'dpkg -l' may also contain packages which aren't installed |
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| 17:19.11 | abrotman | Nyle: you'd have to figure out which file did it .. and be able to reproduce it |
| 17:19.16 | jhutchins | stew: Nonetheless, it was what i needed. |
| 17:19.37 | jhutchins | I have exim light, will probably need heavy for virus scanning. |
| 17:19.48 | Nyle | abrotman, what do you mean which file? |
| 17:20.06 | abrotman | erm .. which package |
| 17:20.07 | Nyle | abrotman, any tips on how to go abour reproducing it again, should I downgrade the pacakge and try to upgrade it again? |
| 17:20.11 | Nyle | abrotman, oh ok |
| 17:20.17 | Nyle | abrotman, any tips then on how to find out? |
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| 17:20.43 | abrotman | it could also bve a network manager tool |
| 17:20.50 | Nyle | its not |
| 17:20.53 | JordiGH | eljefe: Are you sure it's not a font issue? |
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| 17:21.00 | Nyle | don't use gnome, and i don't have knetworkmanager |
| 17:21.07 | Nyle | (which was suggested earlier to check on) |
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| 17:21.54 | eljefe | JordiGH I guess I am not _sure_ but the font looked fine with the other setup; this isn't a reinstall, just moved the hard drive to a new setup. |
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| 17:22.23 | abrotman | doesn't see what gnome has to do with it |
| 17:22.40 | Nyle | abrotman, someone suggested if i have network-manager running in my DE |
| 17:22.42 | eljefe | but this certainly isn't crisp. |
| 17:23.01 | abrotman | whatever |
| 17:23.02 | Nyle | i think full suite of kde (metapacakge) installs it and runs it |
| 17:23.07 | Nyle | but i don't have it |
| 17:23.14 | abrotman | you can look at postinst scripts maybe .. see which package owns the file .. |
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| 17:23.20 | Nyle | ok |
| 17:23.23 | JordiGH | eljefe: I mean, is it only the fonts that look bad, or is everything unsharp? Do you think you could take a screenshot? |
| 17:23.44 | eljefe | ah. yes i can do that. it seems everything looks a bit bad. lemme set that up and I' |
| 17:23.50 | eljefe | i'll give you as link in a moment |
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| 17:24.20 | Nyle | abrotman, switchconf: /usr/share/doc/switchconf/examples/home/etc/network/interfaces |
| 17:24.31 | abrotman | uh .. not quite |
| 17:24.34 | Nyle | didn't think so |
| 17:24.39 | Nyle | I used apt-file |
| 17:24.57 | Nyle | abrotman, the file is generated, so maybe someone here already knows what package owns it so i don' thave to search maybe |
| 17:25.05 | Nyle | s/search/look throught he scripts |
| 17:25.23 | abrotman | you can too |
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| 17:26.07 | Nyle | alright I'll check it out later, gotta go put my stuff in the dryer |
| 17:26.13 | Ace2016_- | Nyle: did you get pinging sorted? |
| 17:26.37 | Nyle | Ace2016_-, yes, apparantly lenny upgrade caused my shit to get retarded |
| 17:26.48 | Ace2016_- | oh |
| 17:26.48 | Nyle | in a matter of speaking, interfaces file was wiped clean... totally blank |
| 17:26.53 | Nyle | it existed, but it was blank |
| 17:27.04 | Nyle | networking still functioned though, I wonder why |
| 17:27.24 | Nyle | doesn't the upgrade try and cuase networking to restart? |
| 17:27.50 | Ace2016_- | i guess its a defensive measure, use the network but block incoming unless the interface is defined correctly |
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| 17:27.59 | Nyle | perhaps |
| 17:28.00 | eljefe | JordiGH: http://imagebin.ca/view/bG0yBPEP.html |
| 17:28.04 | Nyle | but if no info, it shouldn't even funtion |
| 17:28.23 | Ace2016_- | eljefe: i don't see anything |
| 17:28.26 | Nyle | why would the iface be up, if the info doesn't exist, what netmask/ip to bind it to, what to use as a gateway (which could still be pinged) |
| 17:28.45 | Nyle | it was just one of those things I guess |
| 17:28.47 | JordiGH | eljefe: Looks like your screenshot didn't capture the fuzziness. Maybe monitor issue? |
| 17:28.47 | eljefe | hm me either, from any of the images on that site :( |
| 17:28.47 | Ace2016_- | dhcp? |
| 17:28.53 | Nyle | static |
| 17:28.58 | eljefe | i am wondering about monitor issues also |
| 17:29.05 | Ace2016_- | imageshack? |
| 17:29.10 | Ace2016_- | JordiGH: you can see that pic? |
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| 17:29.16 | eljefe | do i need an account there? |
| 17:29.42 | JordiGH | Ace2016_-: What pic? eljefe's? Yes. |
| 17:29.51 | Ace2016_- | i can't see that |
| 17:29.56 | JordiGH | eljefe: Is it a CRT monitor? |
| 17:29.57 | Ace2016_- | nope not for imageshack |
| 17:30.07 | Ace2016_- | check the sharpness value |
| 17:30.17 | Ace2016_- | most monitors should use 50% for everything |
| 17:30.21 | eljefe | sharpness value, where? |
| 17:30.29 | Ace2016_- | or just reset to defaults |
| 17:30.44 | eljefe | http://img231.imageshack.us/done.php?l=img231/4540/fzzyscreenei8.png |
| 17:30.49 | stew | : |
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| 17:31.14 | Nyle | i use picpaste.com |
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| 17:31.22 | Nyle | its fast/quick/best of the best/no ads |
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| 17:32.42 | JordiGH | bayimg is also good. |
| 17:33.11 | JordiGH | eljefe: Heh, did you put that Firefox icon there yourself? |
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| 17:34.47 | eljefe | JordiGH: yeah :/ people would sit down and say, whjere is the browser? |
| 17:34.57 | Nyle | eljefe, use the internet explorer icon |
| 17:34.59 | DawnLight | i want to encrypt my laptop's hard disk drive |
| 17:35.00 | Nyle | no one would ever miss that |
| 17:35.05 | eljefe | riiight |
| 17:35.08 | Nyle | hehehe |
| 17:35.13 | eljefe | i certainly don't miss it :) |
| 17:35.18 | Nyle | hey |
| 17:35.22 | Nyle | what is a el jefe |
| 17:35.28 | Nyle | i've heard that before |
| 17:35.30 | JordiGH | thechief |
| 17:35.31 | drazak | DawnLight: don't bother |
| 17:35.32 | Nyle | ahh |
| 17:35.43 | drazak | DawnLight: it's so easy to crack if physical access is given |
| 17:35.51 | DawnLight | drazak: it is???? |
| 17:35.56 | eljefe | well i tweeked the subpixel hinting; restarted X, and I still don't really think its very good... |
| 17:35.58 | Nyle | yeh but if a street thug picks steals it |
| 17:36.01 | Nyle | he won't know wtf to do |
| 17:36.14 | drazak | Nyle: that's not the use of an encrypted hard drive |
| 17:36.21 | Nyle | you think a nerdy hacker is gonna go around stealing laptops and not worry about getitng busted |
| 17:36.23 | drazak | why would a street thug want to use your software |
| 17:36.24 | Nyle | hes no street thug |
| 17:36.28 | eljefe | my monitor has the sharpness to 60; its on "Auto MagicColor" so if I turn that off I can adjust sharpness, but not while it is on. |
| 17:36.42 | Nyle | drazak, umm.. people steal and sell those laptops |
| 17:36.48 | Nyle | whats the matter with you |
| 17:36.51 | DawnLight | look, i just want it encrypted! |
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| 17:36.55 | Nyle | you know a street thug wants whats on your hdd? |
| 17:36.57 | Nyle | c'mon |
| 17:37.03 | abrotman | really .. |
| 17:37.07 | Nyle | DawnLight, yeh, I'm saying its a good idea |
| 17:37.08 | Nyle | do it |
| 17:37.13 | drazak | grabs a can of canned air, a few screw drivers, an external hard drive, and a cd and cracks hdd encryption |
| 17:37.19 | Ace2016_- | DawnLight: you can do that in the netinstall installer |
| 17:37.23 | eljefe | yeah if he wants it encrypted, let him |
| 17:37.30 | Lagbolt | DawnLight, then encrypt it :) mine is and it is great |
| 17:37.36 | DawnLight | i've debian install already |
| 17:37.37 | maligor | eljefe, I expect subpixel works best with digital links |
| 17:37.41 | DawnLight | installed |
| 17:37.43 | drazak | you're wasting cycles |
| 17:37.44 | drazak | :D |
| 17:38.00 | gynterk | If I have PPP connection, is it possible to share it via eth? |
| 17:38.04 | eljefe | he's got some free without Windows eating them :) |
| 17:38.05 | Nyle | !truecrypt |
| 17:38.05 | dpkg | from memory, truecrypt is a non-free (under DFSG's definitions) implementation of on-the-fly disk encryption that also attempts at plausible deniability, something not found in other OTFE systems like <EncFS> and <LUKS>. See http://www.truecrypt.org |
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| 17:38.10 | abrotman | !tell gynterk about ipmasq |
| 17:38.21 | Nyle | encfs |
| 17:38.39 | Lagbolt | DawnLight, keeping existing install eh? can do like i did, move it to usb HD , boot from usb and repart/format and encrypt target, then mount and copy back |
| 17:38.40 | gynterk | thanks |
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| 17:39.09 | maligor | heh, truecrypt has screenshots :P |
| 17:39.37 | DawnLight | hey, my laptop is dfsg free! |
| 17:39.56 | Nyle | you mean its free from dfsg or youhave only dfsg-free software |
| 17:40.05 | Nyle | my system is dfsg free |
| 17:40.09 | eljefe | wondered the same |
| 17:40.13 | maligor | DawnLight, you have the hw designs under a Free license? |
| 17:40.13 | Nyle | yours is probably dfsg-free |
| 17:40.17 | Nyle | (I have fglrx) |
| 17:40.29 | DawnLight | ahm no |
| 17:40.45 | Lagbolt | lol |
| 17:40.50 | Lagbolt | oops shoot sorry |
| 17:40.52 | Lagbolt | heehee |
| 17:40.59 | DawnLight | ok. i'll do the truecrypt thing |
| 17:41.15 | DawnLight | i'll put everything to a usb hdd |
| 17:41.15 | abrotman | why? |
| 17:41.16 | Lagbolt | i just read some article a month ago about truecrypt vulmerability |
| 17:41.27 | abrotman | DawnLight: what's wrong with LUKS or encfs ? |
| 17:41.28 | Lagbolt | or maybe it was the false bottom they could break. i cant recall |
| 17:42.03 | squisher | I just upgraded my sid machine, and now I can't mount my nfs4 share anymore... |
| 17:42.31 | Nyle | squisher, I turned two sids machines to lenny today and one fucked up my interfaces file to oblivion |
| 17:42.33 | squisher | first the rpcsec_gss_krb5 module wasn't autoloaded, but after loading it by hand I just get a "Connection timed out" error |
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| 17:42.44 | Nyle | squisher, check the bts? |
| 17:42.50 | squisher | Nyle, did do, nothing in there |
| 17:43.00 | DawnLight | abrotman: what you reccommend? |
| 17:43.03 | dvs | Nyle: convert sid to lenny? How did you downgrade? |
| 17:43.09 | squisher | well, I checked nfs-common, that's the only package I could think of |
| 17:43.11 | Nyle | dvs, I upgraded |
| 17:43.16 | abrotman | DawnLight: try them both |
| 17:43.21 | Nyle | dvs, those are my little secrets |
| 17:43.26 | DawnLight | i don't want to try them both |
| 17:43.31 | Nyle | dvs, if I told ya, I'd have to kill ya |
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| 17:43.38 | dvs | o_O |
| 17:43.43 | DawnLight | i want it encrypted and forget about it |
| 17:43.44 | eljefe | Weel JordiGH I turned off MagicColor and UPPED my monitor's sharpness to 100 and I like it |
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| 17:44.04 | keith4_ | dvs: couldn't you just change your sources back to lenny and wait a few weeks? |
| 17:44.05 | JordiGH | eljefe: Yay! |
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| 17:44.19 | noo3 | anyone here write GPL code? |
| 17:44.23 | Nyle | DawnLight, hehe :) I had sid on two machines which hadn't seen the light of day (internet in 7-8 months)... lenny froze, and I changed the soruces and upgraded |
| 17:44.26 | eljefe | yeah, i think. Still not convinced -- i feel like words have a shadow to their right. |
| 17:44.31 | Nyle | DawnLight, almost everything is now from lenny, nothing from sid |
| 17:44.40 | squisher | Nyle, if I look at the packet dump, I just see two NFS null calls, nothing odd (connection closes just normal) |
| 17:44.40 | JordiGH | noo3: I do. |
| 17:44.47 | eljefe | noo3 any bash scripts I write are gpl3 |
| 17:44.53 | eljefe | but... not really code |
| 17:44.53 | Nyle | DawnLight, essentially you CAN downgrade, but only if you wait half a year |
| 17:45.00 | Nyle | or mroe... but not really you can't anyway |
| 17:45.03 | DawnLight | Nyle: wrond nick |
| 17:45.04 | dvs | that's what I thought! |
| 17:45.05 | JordiGH | I linked to GPL code, now my code is GPL too. |
| 17:45.13 | Nyle | oh |
| 17:45.18 | Nyle | sorry! |
| 17:45.27 | Nyle | its all dvs's fault! |
| 17:45.33 | dvs | !blame me |
| 17:45.33 | dpkg | blames svalvolo and dvs for the end of culture as we know it |
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| 17:45.39 | dylanB_UCD | hi |
| 17:45.42 | Nyle | hello there |
| 17:45.47 | dvs | howdy |
| 17:45.52 | dylanB_UCD | anyone know if there is a 2.6.26-686 kernel for SMP machines? |
| 17:45.53 | noo3 | JordiGH: i've written some real simple basic apps that would only benefit people who make money, any reason for me to make it GPL? |
| 17:46.00 | abrotman | dylanB_UCD: in sid? |
| 17:46.00 | Nyle | dylanB_UCD, they are all SMP |
| 17:46.02 | dvs | dylanB_UCD: all kernels are now SMP |
| 17:46.18 | noo3 | JordiGH: I don't think I could charge for it, because its very basic stuff, but I cant find anyone else who has written them |
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| 17:46.20 | Ace2016_- | DawnLight: i use luks and CryptSetup, if you encrypt a fat32 partition you can decrypt it in windows |
| 17:46.20 | dylanB_UCD | ah.... that explains why I couldn't find a specific SMP one.. thanks! |
| 17:46.40 | eljefe | How can I check my cpu temp from CLI? |
| 17:46.43 | keith4_ | dylanB_UCD: I don't see anything newer than 2.6.25 packaged |
| 17:46.47 | Nyle | eljefe, sensors |
| 17:46.48 | eljefe | !temp |
| 17:46.51 | eljefe | thanks |
| 17:46.51 | abrotman | noo3: how is this related to Debian ? |
| 17:47.01 | abrotman | keith4_: sid has .26 |
| 17:47.22 | eljefe | Nyle "E: Couldn't find package sensors" |
| 17:47.22 | keith4_ | abrotman: i don't see it on packages.debian.org |
| 17:47.25 | Ace2016_- | noo3: what apps? |
| 17:47.28 | Nyle | eljefe, install lmsensors and run sensors-detect, and let it append some detected kernel modules for your thermistor etc. etc. diodes and such or chipset, whatever, and then type sensors and you'll see them |
| 17:47.29 | noo3 | abrotman: its not, but I figure someone here writes code with GPL and might give me a few reason to release it as such, but if there is a forum, please point me to do it |
| 17:47.32 | Nyle | !sensors |
| 17:47.33 | dpkg | methinks lm_sensors is a hardware health monitoring package that performs CPU temperature, fan speed monitoring, etc. It is packaged in the lm-sensors package. #linux-sensors @ irc.freenode.net |
| 17:47.34 | dylanB_UCD | ok.. i am mainly interested in getting the current (sid) version of udev installed |
| 17:47.36 | abrotman | keith4_: packages.debian.org/linux-image-2.6.26 |
| 17:47.47 | abrotman | noo3: ##linux might be better .. or #gnu |
| 17:47.50 | eljefe | thanks again Nyle!! |
| 17:47.54 | Nyle | sure |
| 17:48.00 | noo3 | Ace2016_-: A coumadin Regimen app and a simple app that tells you when a prescription is due |
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| 17:48.05 | keith4_ | abrotman: ah, there it is. weird |
| 17:48.08 | noo3 | ace2001ac: very simple stuff |
| 17:48.12 | abrotman | !ot |
| 17:48.12 | dpkg | Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic (i.e., Debian support), or return to the topic after a short while. #debian-offtopic is the place for longer off-topic discussions. |
| 17:48.34 | keith4_ | abrotman: doesn't show up here: http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=linux-image&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all |
| 17:48.42 | Nyle | please join #debian-ontopic for ontopic discussions |
| 17:48.45 | Nyle | hehe |
| 17:48.51 | noo3 | Hmmm I just got an idea, if I relase it under GPL perhaps I can get it packed in debian, (hows that?) |
| 17:48.58 | Nyle | noo3, go for it |
| 17:49.05 | abrotman | keith4_: gives you a hint at the toop |
| 17:49.06 | abrotman | top |
| 17:49.12 | Nyle | toop |
| 17:49.18 | JordiGH | noo3: You might prefer to ask your question in #gnu or #fsf. |
| 17:49.25 | keith4_ | abrotman: ah, so it does. |
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| 17:49.28 | noo3 | JordiGH: thanks!!!! |
| 17:49.30 | Nyle | noo3, /msg dpkg policy |
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| 17:50.06 | Nyle | noo3, #fsf or #gnu won't tell you what you need in order to make a package debian compatible lisence wise |
| 17:50.13 | keith4_ | dare I ask what is linux-image-2.6.26-1-versatile? |
| 17:50.15 | Nyle | but the policy factoid will |
| 17:50.17 | abrotman | let him worry about the license first |
| 17:50.44 | Nyle | look at his question |
| 17:50.44 | dylanB_UCD | hmm.. is there a specific nvidia-kernel package for the 2.6.26 kernel? |
| 17:50.53 | dvs | keith4: the "holy grail" of kernels! ;-) |
| 17:50.54 | Nyle | ...if I relase it under GPL perhaps I can get it packed in debian, (hows that?) |
| 17:51.09 | keith4_ | dylanB_UCD: module-assistant can build it |
| 17:51.25 | abrotman | he can worry about that after he picks a license .. |
| 17:51.26 | Nyle | to answer your question, yes, you can get it under debian if you have it gpl licensed, and yes, thats very good |
| 17:51.33 | abrotman | keith4_: i'd guess a sub-class of armel |
| 17:51.42 | squisher | hits himself for not checking syslog... |
| 17:51.46 | dylanB_UCD | keith4_, thanks. |
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| 17:51.50 | abrotman | keith4_: This package provides the binary image and pre-built loadable modules for Linux kernel 2.6.26 on Versatile (PB, AB, Qemu) machines. |
| 17:51.52 | noo3 | Nyle: thanks |
| 17:51.55 | Nyle | hands squisher a bat |
| 17:51.57 | keith4_ | abrotman: oh, neat |
| 17:52.06 | Nyle | sure |
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| 17:52.25 | squisher | takes the bat and hits his virtual terminal |
| 17:52.27 | keith4_ | abrotman: not nearly as exciting as I was hoping, though ;-) |
| 17:52.36 | Nyle | squisher, kinda like Tron! |
| 17:52.44 | squisher | Nyle, hehe, right |
| 17:53.25 | squisher | yay, works again |
| 17:53.29 | DawnLight | i'm rsyncing the files |
| 17:53.32 | Nyle | word |
| 17:54.16 | eljefe | So, I installed lmsensors and lm-sensors and wmsensors; I ran sudo sensors-detect and answered a bunch of YES. But still 'sensors' returns nothing. |
| 17:54.38 | keith4_ | eljefe: at the end of 'sensors-detect', did it find anything? |
| 17:54.47 | keith4_ | and did you load the kernel modules that it said you will need? |
| 17:54.52 | Nyle | eljefe, i told you, let it append and modprobe |
| 17:54.59 | eljefe | i2c-piix4 and dme1737; and i did let it add |
| 17:55.07 | Nyle | eljefe, if it didn't look at the list of modules detected, put em in / etc/modules, and go from there |
| 17:55.11 | Nyle | or modprobem em |
| 17:55.23 | Nyle | they are probably not loaded |
| 17:55.46 | eljefe | yep modprobe of them did it. thanks Nyle |
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| 17:56.22 | Nyle | you da man |
| 17:56.24 | eljefe | why does V5stby have ALARM near it? |
| 17:56.46 | unixSnob | ftp.uwsg.indiana.edu has been having problems for the past day |
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| 17:56.51 | eljefe | is CPU temp of 55* C ok ? |
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| 17:57.10 | squisher | eljefe, not great, but no reason to worry |
| 17:57.12 | unixSnob | are there any packages like netselect, which also discover mirrors that are broken? |
| 17:57.19 | Nyle | eljefe, its fine |
| 17:57.22 | eljefe | maan i love the proghram 'watch -d' |
| 17:57.29 | Nyle | watch is good |
| 17:57.31 | eljefe | ok thanks guys and gals. laundry time. |
| 17:57.41 | Ectus | eljefe: 90* C is bad |
| 17:57.45 | eljefe | lol |
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| 17:57.56 | Ectus | :) |
| 17:58.03 | Ectus | But I mean it ;) |
| 17:58.11 | eljefe | oyh i believe you |
| 17:58.21 | Nyle | dude go do laundry |
| 17:58.22 | Nyle | your stink! |
| 17:58.33 | Nyle | ahahaha :D |
| 17:58.33 | eljefe | :) |
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| 17:59.29 | Ectus | Nyle: Who, me? |
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| 17:59.55 | Nyle | my ears are too big! |
| 17:59.59 | Nyle | :( |
| 18:00.10 | Ectus | Nyle: Were you refering to me or not? |
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| 18:00.59 | Nyle | why would I refer to you |
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| 18:01.07 | Nyle | I wasn't ever talking to you |
| 18:01.15 | Ectus | ok, np. |
| 18:01.48 | Nyle | damn right, and even if I was, still its not a problem, you're somewhere way the fuck over in the world somewhere, what you gonna do about it anyway ;) |
| 18:02.02 | Nyle | AHA! got ya |
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| 18:03.20 | Ectus | Nyle: I could be assured that you have no life trying to "pwnd" over IRC :) |
| 18:03.49 | Nyle | I'm just mess with ya buddy |
| 18:03.52 | abrotman | take it somewhere else |
| 18:04.18 | Nyle | 'ey jefe, chill |
| 18:04.28 | Ectus | ;) |
| 18:05.09 | zyx386 | hi |
| 18:05.11 | Nyle | hello |
| 18:05.33 | zyx386 | anyone tell me what is keborad layout option in xorg.conf? |
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| 18:05.52 | squisher | names Nyle the official channel greater |
| 18:05.57 | abrotman | zyx386: man xorg.conf |
| 18:06.11 | cusco | keyboard layout is the layout of the keys... qwerty azerty dvorak etc |
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| 18:06.37 | zyx386 | abrotman, thanx and what is keybord variable |
| 18:06.38 | Nyle | squisher, why come? |
| 18:06.50 | abrotman | zyx386: read it? |
| 18:06.50 | squisher | Nyle, how not? |
| 18:06.52 | Nyle | greater than you! ha! |
| 18:07.05 | squisher | haha |
| 18:07.09 | squisher | oops |
| 18:07.52 | Nyle | I like to fun when I help debian |
| 18:07.58 | Nyle | but most people are too serious |
| 18:08.10 | squisher | :-D |
| 18:08.15 | keith4_ | i'm not sure "fun" is a verb |
| 18:08.25 | cusco | its not |
| 18:08.33 | squisher | points at keith4 as an example :-P |
| 18:08.53 | Nyle | oh... +have...fun |
| 18:09.03 | abrotman | you help? |
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| 18:09.16 | cusco | stalks... |
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| 18:09.40 | Nyle | in the past 10 minutes I've had two people htank me cuz i helped em |
| 18:09.51 | Nyle | so yes, I would naturally think I help |
| 18:10.00 | Nyle | and I like to help, whats the matter with you.... |
| 18:10.12 | abrotman | think your clock is broken |
| 18:10.16 | Nyle | 20 |
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| 18:10.25 | Nyle | who gives a shit, just recently. thts the point |
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| 18:15.36 | peter_12 | what is the right way to list all packages installed with apt? Is "dpkg-query -l" correct? |
| 18:15.41 | HansAlcroft | hey guys. just wondering.... while trying to install the nVidia drivers for my card i get this error. "Unable to find the kernel source tree for the currently running kernel. " i've installed the linux-source pkg and build-essential. what am i missing? |
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| 18:16.29 | abrotman | peter_12: /msg dpkg installed |
| 18:16.39 | abrotman | HansAlcroft: uname -a .. show us the output |
| 18:17.02 | cusco | HansAlcroft: probably the linux headers |
| 18:17.13 | cusco | HansAlcroft: apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 18:17.16 | HansAlcroft | cusco: i've installed the linux headers |
| 18:17.20 | cusco | oops |
| 18:17.20 | gynterk | anyone got experience with RTL8101L as LAN? |
| 18:17.25 | gynterk | can't get it working |
| 18:17.36 | HansAlcroft | abrotman: i'm not in deb at the moment. |
| 18:18.11 | squisher | you only need linux-headers if you don't have linux-source, /me thinks |
| 18:18.30 | abrotman | HansAlcroft: do you even know which version of debian you're using ? |
| 18:18.39 | HansAlcroft | squisher: that's what i thought... come to think of it, i think linux-source includes the headers |
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| 18:18.58 | HansAlcroft | abrotman: newest stable |
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| 18:19.08 | abrotman | then your linux-headers should be available |
| 18:19.49 | HansAlcroft | abrotman: i know. but for some reason it's still telling me Unable to find the kernel source tree for the currently running kernel. |
| 18:20.21 | abrotman | you don't need the source tree |
| 18:20.21 | squisher | maybe there's newer sources available than packaged linux-image? |
| 18:20.27 | abrotman | !tell HansAlcroft about nvidia one-liner |
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| 18:21.38 | gynterk | hmm |
| 18:22.08 | gynterk | what might be the problem, if /var/log/messages says link down |
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| 18:22.12 | gynterk | thou it's connected |
| 18:22.17 | gynterk | via working twisted pair |
| 18:23.10 | abrotman | you have more than one NIC ? |
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| 18:23.32 | tclineks | i'm having a disk issue, corrupted superblock. when i specify an alternate (e2fsck -b {}) i get "e2fsck: Device or resource busy while trying to open /dev/sdb3" |
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| 18:24.07 | gynterk | abrotman, internet comes via ppp |
| 18:24.21 | gynterk | i'm trying to masq it via eth to another machine |
| 18:24.25 | tclineks | the disk isn't mounted, not referenced by anything according to lsof/fuser |
| 18:24.33 | abrotman | that doesn't mean you can't have more than one NIC |
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| 18:24.47 | HansAlcroft | abrotman: thanks... i'll try that real quick |
| 18:24.47 | abrotman | gynterk: i suspect the dmesg gives you more info than you're giving us |
| 18:24.50 | gynterk | i have 1 nic on each machine |
| 18:25.04 | gynterk | no liying |
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| 18:25.15 | gynterk | laptop (which is masq-ing) has 2 nic-s |
| 18:25.20 | gynterk | wifi and wired |
| 18:25.36 | wols | gynterk: do you have a switch between the 2 PCs or have a crossover cable? |
| 18:25.44 | gynterk | crossower/twisted |
| 18:25.58 | wols | all are twisted, no exceptions |
| 18:26.41 | gynterk | i think It's the lan card problem with that another machine |
| 18:26.53 | gynterk | it has RTL8101L |
| 18:27.05 | gynterk | but how I can check if machine finds/can use this card |
| 18:27.42 | gynterk | lspci sees it as RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev10) |
| 18:28.58 | gynterk | the odd thing is, that I don't know why doesn't dmesg say "link connected" or smth if I connect cables |
| 18:29.13 | abrotman | gynterk: how about you give us the actual error |
| 18:29.25 | gynterk | localhost kernel: eth0 link down |
| 18:30.09 | bolt | when I'm doing: FOO="$VARIABLEs" where $VARIABLE is the variable and "s" is something I want right next to it with nothing separating them, how do I tell bash that the variable name ends after $VARIABLE? |
| 18:30.23 | squisher | bolt, use {} |
| 18:30.26 | squisher | bolt ${VAR} |
| 18:30.38 | abrotman | bolt: #bash |
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| 18:32.35 | gynterk | hmm |
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| 18:32.45 | gynterk | the mistake seems on that second machine, not laptop |
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| 18:33.13 | Flinx | is there anyone here that can assist me with getting alsa to run? |
| 18:33.23 | abrotman | !alsa checklist |
| 18:33.23 | dpkg | 1) run alsaconf as root 2) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out and log in again) 3) use alsamixer and unmute channels and raise levels (also try muting some channels) 4) arts or esound stopped? 5) OSS modules unloaded? 6) speakers on? 7) modprobe snd-pcm-oss 8) does "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp" work for root? Test your sound with aplay and a wav so codec issues don't confuse the situation. <list alsa users> |
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| 18:34.04 | Flinx | kay |
| 18:34.13 | Flinx | I think about 80% of that is done tho |
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| 18:34.47 | abrotman | double check again |
| 18:35.16 | gynterk | odd |
| 18:35.21 | gynterk | started to work via switch |
| 18:35.29 | gynterk | but this cable is crossower |
| 18:35.32 | gynterk | 100% sure.. |
| 18:35.37 | gynterk | tested with tester |
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| 18:36.00 | flowr | how do I make a device not to automatically mount in fstab? |
| 18:36.06 | flowr | noauto doesnt seem to help |
| 18:36.13 | gynterk | anyway thanks |
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| 18:36.34 | wols | flowr: full line please |
| 18:36.46 | squisher | flowr, maybe an automounter is at work? |
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| 18:38.37 | Yondering | hi.. just to be sure.. my old Etch CD will update to 4.0r4 once it's installed, correct? |
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| 18:39.27 | slept | could someone eith a rtl8139 nic run rtl8139-diag -e -ee and paste the results for me ? |
| 18:39.39 | abrotman | Yondering: if you use http sources, it's already been done of you updated in the last week |
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| 18:40.28 | keith4_ | does anyone happen to know how to change the default boot behavior of openboot so that it boots debian, instead of sitting at the prompt? |
| 18:40.28 | Yondering | abrotman, thanks.. guess that answers my question. ;) |
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| 18:41.34 | ArthurArchnix | I'm trying to turn off the "feature" in icedove whereby when I click on a new message (unread) if it has a image attached it automatically loads it. |
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| 18:42.13 | ArthurArchnix | But I can't see how to turn it off. It takes soooo long to open that it essentially just crashes icedove... it's unusuable for 5 minutes or so |
| 18:42.29 | abrotman | ArthurArchnix: i'd imagine you'd look for a plugin |
| 18:42.35 | keith4_ | ArthurArchnix: nah, it's there somewhere |
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| 18:43.15 | dylanB_UCD | howdy |
| 18:43.15 | ArthurArchnix | I'm experimenting, but if I get it wrong I have to force quit and restart it, flick another switch, try and open message |
| 18:43.23 | ArthurArchnix | fail, force quit, restart |
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| 18:43.29 | keith4_ | ArthurArchnix: it's in preferences, in the privacy tab |
| 18:43.42 | dylanB_UCD | anyone have an idea on how to resolve this: |
| 18:43.44 | dylanB_UCD | linux-headers-2.6.26-1-686: Depends: linux-kbuild-2.6.26 but it is not installable |
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| 18:45.15 | unixSnob | What's wrong with my sources.list file? Or is MIT screwed up (and not yet reported as such)? #deb-src http://ftp.uwsg.indiana.edu/linux/debian/ etch main contrib non-free |
| 18:45.42 | flowr | wols: /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows ntfs user,noauto 0 0 |
| 18:45.50 | ArthurArchnix | keith4_ I took a look, but I don't think so. There's passwords, antivirus, junk settings. This is an email from a friend with pictures attached. I want to read the message but not have the pictures displayed. They must be huge. I don't know though, because clicking the message makes the darn thing freeze up, the CPU hit full and the fan turn on full too. |
| 18:45.52 | unixSnob | shoot.. i meant to paste => http://rafb.net/p/NPBfjg93.html |
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| 18:46.49 | abrotman | unixSnob: your MIT source is not correct |
| 18:47.03 | keith4_ | ArthurArchnix: oh, I think i read your question wrong. these are attached images? you can only block loading of remote images |
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| 18:47.15 | keith4_ | however, if you switch to the layout that doesn't show the message in the main window, that might help |
| 18:47.18 | unixSnob | thanks abrotman ... should it be http? |
| 18:47.29 | keith4_ | or, use webmail to read it |
| 18:47.32 | __pok | unixSnob: it looks a bit short to me |
| 18:47.34 | ArthurArchnix | hmm... ok they're already downloaded from server. |
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| 18:48.10 | abrotman | unixSnob: no .. it's wrong |
| 18:48.11 | ArthurArchnix | sigh... force quit. Maybe I'll try in the mozilla channel |
| 18:48.16 | ArthurArchnix | thanks for ideas |
| 18:48.35 | unixSnob | __pok: what's short? The sources.list, or the error output? some of the error output didn't make it to the clipboard (i used xsel) |
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| 18:50.10 | unixSnob | abrotman: this is what i constructed it from: http://mirror.debian.org/debian.lcs.mit.edu.html#sect_main |
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| 18:50.21 | abrotman | unixSnob: that's nice .. it's still wrong |
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| 18:50.47 | abrotman | deb http://host.mit.edu/debian/ etch main contrib non-free |
| 18:50.51 | abrotman | whatever that host is |
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| 18:51.23 | flowr | hi. how does the copy-paste work in linux? do I copy by marking text with the cursor and paste by pushing the middle mouse button? |
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| 18:52.28 | squisher | flowr, what do you ask if you know already? ;-) |
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| 18:52.46 | squisher | flowr, though you can often use CTRL-C/V like in certain other OSes |
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| 18:53.50 | flowr | okay.. because sometimes the mark+paste doesnt work :P... so I was just curious of what I was doing wrong. Well, who knows ::P |
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| 18:54.51 | ArthurArchnix | ok... turns out I think it was an option called display attachements inline, and it always defaults to true. But if you go into advanced configuration editor you can change the boolean value to false. I've also disabled javascript while I'm in there. But this one message is still killing my machine. It's only 4MBS and I've got 1GB of ram... it shouldn't be doing this should it? |
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| 18:55.05 | squisher | flowr, mark & right-click should work almost always. Just not if you deselect your selection before pasting, or i.e. with vnc clients |
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| 18:55.34 | unixSnob | thanks abrotman! took me a while to spot the issue.. appears to be fixed now w/ the path added after the server |
| 18:56.45 | unixSnob | BTW... i just discovered "xsel".. very useful tool. files and stdout can be piped straight to the clipboard |
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| 18:58.57 | ArthurArchnix | nevermind... I just deleted the thing and told the person not to send massive pictures by email |
| 18:59.02 | ArthurArchnix | problem solved. |
| 18:59.11 | ArthurArchnix | maybe my inbox is corrupted or something |
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| 18:59.40 | ArthurArchnix | Because when I delete messages, I can open up the inbox file in my profile and read messages from months and months ago |
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| 19:00.29 | KleinerHai | http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/too_old_for_this_shit.png |
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| 19:02.15 | vampirefrog | hi guys. every time I upgrade the kernel the grub list gets regenerated, but I'd like to customize the way it gets generated (ie ad windows to the list automatically), instead of editing it each time |
| 19:02.26 | vampirefrog | where should I look? |
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| 19:04.07 | unixSnob | ArthurArchnix: sounds like a netiquette issue... many folks still haven't learnt that pics attached to emails screw up dialup users |
| 19:04.23 | cloakable | vampirefrog: did you put the windows settings inside the automagic section in /boot/grub/menu.lst? |
| 19:04.34 | cr3rzemjest | how to know what's disk usage (activity) ? like, CPUs usage? at the moment? i've got weird PC casing that has no LED showing disk activity, only blue kinda nice thing that's glowing all the time... i've searched the intarnetz but he only says about space, not HDD acitivty halp. |
| 19:04.39 | vampirefrog | cloakable: automagic section eh? let's see |
| 19:04.43 | Flinx | I need some help wiht my fstab. I currently have it set up so that a regular user /should/ be able to mount the nfts drive and read data from it. but when I do I'm getting a complaint about not having permissions |
| 19:05.04 | unixSnob | thinks dialup ISPs should be running tools that quarantines large attachments, and replaces them with a link in the email |
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| 19:05.19 | squisher | Flinx, use something like the 'gid=users' option |
| 19:05.23 | ArthurArchnix | Maybe... but I'm not impressed with the fact that I delete a message from my inbox and all that happens in that it forgets it's still there in a massive and constantly growing file on my home directory. |
| 19:05.37 | squisher | Flinx, oh and probably 'umask=007' or according to your needs |
| 19:06.19 | ArthurArchnix | Delete means delete. Not, make a notation not to render that section of the file. Maybe I ought to shop around for a new email program. Iceweasel is great, icedove is just so-so |
| 19:06.28 | Flinx | squisher: do i put those into the fstab? |
| 19:06.33 | vampirefrog | cloakable: teach me. I need to put a commented version of the windows boot commands between 'BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST' and 'End Default Optoions' ? |
| 19:06.38 | squisher | Flinx, yes, in the options tab |
| 19:07.01 | squisher | cr3rzemjest, depends on your DE. I.e. xfce has a disc performance plugin, which lets you montior that |
| 19:07.02 | ArthurArchnix | Maybe I should give evolution a try... I am on gnome. |
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| 19:07.05 | squisher | cr3rzemjest, or try out gkrellm |
| 19:07.13 | squisher | which is stand-alone |
| 19:07.22 | keith4_ | how do I get the new kernel from etchnhalf into etch? |
| 19:07.26 | Flinx | So it would be something like ?? dev/hdc1 /mnt/storage ntfs ro,user,auto,exec,gid=users,umask=007 0 0 |
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| 19:07.30 | stew | vampirefrog: you shoudln't edit anything in the AUTOMAGIC section, if you have a custom entry you don't want touched, add it either before or after the AUTOMAGIC section |
| 19:07.31 | squisher | Flinx, obviously check that your user(s) are in the right group |
| 19:07.38 | ArthurArchnix | hmm... but I wanted to be able to open my mail on any computer if the need arose. I think that's why I chose icedove (thunderbird) in the first place. |
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| 19:07.48 | vampirefrog | stew: ok I'll try that then :P |
| 19:07.51 | cr3rzemjest | squisher, tnx tnx i know what it is but i do not use GNOME so i guess it'll say i need to download 200MB of files in order to use 1mb app. |
| 19:07.54 | squisher | Flinx, I use ntfs-3g, so YMMV, but yes, that looks right |
| 19:08.15 | Flinx | would it be better to use the nfts-3g? |
| 19:08.17 | squisher | cr3rzemjest, xfce != gnome != kde :-) Look at gkrellm then |
| 19:08.22 | squisher | Flinx, if you want write support, yes |
| 19:08.26 | Flinx | yeah |
| 19:08.29 | Flinx | lemme install that |
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| 19:08.46 | cr3rzemjest | squisher, i mean gkrellm, because there's 'g' at the beginning |
| 19:09.10 | squisher | cr3rzemjest, ah, still nothnig to do with gnome :-) Just gtk, which I doubt you don't have installed |
| 19:09.13 | vampirefrog | any idea how I can force a regeneration of /boot/grub/menu.lst? there should be a script yes? |
| 19:09.19 | cr3rzemjest | ok ok ok |
| 19:09.20 | squisher | vampirefrog, update-grub |
| 19:09.26 | vampirefrog | thx |
| 19:09.47 | squisher | cr3rzemjest, I'm surprised it needs that many deps, maybe some updates are included in that? |
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| 19:09.54 | vampirefrog | squisher: thanks, that worked :) |
| 19:10.34 | Flinx | !backport ntfs-3g |
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| 19:13.51 | Nyle | Flinx, go to backports.org |
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| 19:14.18 | Nyle | lenny isn't stable, but frozen only, and you can probably just upgrade to it now and it has ntfs3g |
| 19:14.34 | unixSnob | do i need to do a dist-upgrade to upgrade the kernel from 2.18 to 2.26? I thought 'aptitude upgrade' would be sufficient... but i get: http://rafb.net/p/zbcE4V24.html |
| 19:15.13 | Nyle | unixSnob, sudo aptitude full-upgrade |
| 19:15.15 | Flinx | yeah |
| 19:15.23 | Flinx | Nyle: I just found it |
| 19:15.31 | jelly-home | unixSnob: which release are you using? |
| 19:15.35 | unixSnob | thanks Nyle |
| 19:15.40 | unixSnob | jelly-home: etch |
| 19:16.03 | jelly-home | unixSnob: there is no 2.6.26 for etch, and there'll never be (unless backported) |
| 19:16.10 | Nyle | unixSnob, you won't find it on etch |
| 19:16.19 | Nyle | unixSnob, use backports for a .24 kernel afaik |
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| 19:16.37 | jelly-home | unixSnob: there is however a 2.6.24 in etch now. |
| 19:16.38 | msshams | please tell me that can i convert a text document file to a presentation file automatically? |
| 19:16.42 | Nyle | jelly-home, oh there is |
| 19:16.44 | Nyle | hm |
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| 19:16.56 | unixSnob | Nyle: i believe i have backports set up.. so i'll try to upgrade to whatever it offers |
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| 19:18.21 | unixSnob | hrm.. aptitude full-upgrade is not acceptable syntax |
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| 19:20.07 | JordiGH | Why is it that my router doesn't seem to know my machine's hostname but it does know my brother's Winidows lappy hostname? How do I broadcast my hostname in a way they understand? |
| 19:20.37 | squisher | hmm, if I want to make a shell setting permanent for my X session (ulimit -c setting), do I have to put that into my .xinitrc? |
| 19:20.37 | Flinx | Nyle: I seem to be stuck on getting the libfuse2 dependency for nfts3g |
| 19:20.48 | abrotman | JordiGH: netbios ? |
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| 19:21.13 | JordiGH | abrotman: What's that? |
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| 19:21.21 | mmlj4 | JordiGH: you need winhosts or related for that to work |
| 19:21.21 | Nyle | are you serious? |
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| 19:21.43 | Flinx | "Apt-get install libfuse2" appears to work but then using "dpkg -i ntfs-3g_1.516-1~bpo.1_i386.deb" fails because libfuse2 isn't there. |
| 19:21.43 | Flinx | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:21.48 | Nyle | !netbios |
| 19:21.49 | dpkg | worst protocol evar! |
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| 19:21.54 | unixSnob | forces a full-upgrade by running aptitude install linux-image-2.6.25-2-amd64 |
| 19:22.02 | JordiGH | mmlj4: samba? |
| 19:22.15 | mmlj4 | part of samba, yes |
| 19:22.24 | mmlj4 | winbind is what i meant, not winhosts |
| 19:22.30 | newsense | usb flash drive is best |
| 19:23.03 | JordiGH | How about if I connect my laptop to a Unix network? Is there a way to tell other machines what my hostname is? |
| 19:23.38 | abrotman | dynamic dns |
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| 19:26.02 | keith4_ | when I restart nfs-common, statd fails to start. syslog only reports: "rpc.statd[13736]: unable to register (statd, 1, udp)." this is preventing nfs from serving any exports. thoughts? |
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| 19:26.40 | Flinx | I'm trying to add "deb http://packages.debian.org/etch-backports/ etch main" to my repository list but synaptic is telling me that it cannot parse the packages. what am I doing wrong? |
| 19:27.04 | JordiGH | Flinx: There is no such repository. |
| 19:27.07 | abrotman | Flinx: read the instructions at backports.org |
| 19:27.19 | Flinx | oh... |
| 19:27.21 | Flinx | der.. |
| 19:27.22 | JordiGH | Flinx: You've got the line wrong for etch-backports. |
| 19:28.02 | Flinx | got it :D |
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| 19:28.22 | Patryk_ | Hello |
| 19:28.22 | humbolt | how can I find out which certificate is used for my imap connection? |
| 19:28.28 | cloakable | Flinx: dep http://www.backports.org/debian etch-backports main contrib non-free |
| 19:28.34 | cloakable | *deb |
| 19:28.35 | Patryk_ | how to set flags defaul to -Wno-deprecated |
| 19:28.41 | Patryk_ | i want compile but i have error -Wno-deprecated |
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| 19:28.52 | JordiGH | Patryk_: That's not an error, it's a warning. |
| 19:28.52 | Flinx | yep thanks cloakable |
| 19:28.58 | cloakable | Flinx: :) |
| 19:29.11 | Patryk_ | jea warning how to fix it? |
| 19:29.14 | JordiGH | Patryk_: And is that your own code? You really ought to fix it if it's your own code. |
| 19:29.31 | JordiGH | Patryk_: Is the code using the GNU build process? |
| 19:29.38 | Patryk_ | ye |
| 19:29.49 | Patryk_ | export FLAGS=-Wno-deprecated? |
| 19:29.52 | Patryk_ | or what |
| 19:29.52 | JordiGH | Patryk_: Set CXXFLAGS=-Wno-deprecated |
| 19:30.05 | JordiGH | Patryk_: And set upstream a bug. |
| 19:30.07 | JordiGH | send |
| 19:30.18 | Patryk_ | i can;t edit makefile |
| 19:30.22 | DawnLight | yo. where can i read about setting up encryption on a hdd manually? |
| 19:30.38 | DawnLight | abrotman / Nyle ? ^ |
| 19:30.52 | squisher | DawnLight, google is your friend |
| 19:30.57 | JordiGH | You don't have to edit anything. CXXFLAGS=-Wno-deprecated ./configure && make && sudo make install |
| 19:31.02 | JordiGH | Patryk_: ^^ |
| 19:31.06 | abrotman | DawnLight: /msg dpkg luks .. /msg dpkg encfs |
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| 19:31.10 | coffee1 | fancy footwork |
| 19:31.15 | JordiGH | Patryk_: And send upstream a bug report to start coding in this century already. |
| 19:31.16 | DawnLight | thanks! |
| 19:31.17 | coffee1 | 2step, 2step, 2step./ |
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| 19:31.22 | abrotman | DawnLight: i think /msg dpkg dmcrypt also .. can't recall |
| 19:31.32 | KleinerHai | Hi i try to install joomla, but it say i dont have any mysql support :(. |
| 19:31.40 | DawnLight | abrotman: but which should i use? it is a P4 laptop |
| 19:31.47 | abrotman | read about them and decide |
| 19:31.47 | DawnLight | if that means anything |
| 19:31.47 | squisher | KleinerHai, so install it ;-) |
| 19:31.49 | JordiGH | wonders if there's a wnpp for Joomla. |
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| 19:32.13 | KleinerHai | Okay, i'll try. |
| 19:32.22 | abrotman | JordiGH: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=326398 |
| 19:32.41 | JordiGH | abrotman: Wow, old bug. |
| 19:32.49 | JordiGH | Hey, damog! |
| 19:32.52 | JordiGH | Get off your ass! |
| 19:33.13 | KleinerHai | ??? :D |
| 19:33.51 | abrotman | JordiGH: seems it's not distributable |
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| 19:34.19 | JordiGH | abrotman: Yeah, reading the drama now... |
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| 19:34.55 | KleinerHai | When i type in "mysql" debian say: Access denied for user |
| 19:35.06 | KleinerHai | What does it mean? |
| 19:35.13 | draeath | how long do freezes typically take to hit release? we've got less than 400 RC bugs right? |
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| 19:35.20 | coffee1 | 2step, 2step, 2step./ |
| 19:35.37 | Danielss89 | hi, ive created a new folder in /var/www/stromfri and ive added a user and chowned the dir to that user, and set it as the users home dir... ive also pointed a domain to the folder.. i can log in to ftp with the user and upload new files, but when i try to acces the domain from a browser it says: 403 forbidden |
| 19:35.52 | JordiGH | Huh? The Joomla I've seen seems to use icons from KDE and Gnome. |
| 19:35.59 | krammer | need to install wifi for Deb4 running gnome any thoughts |
| 19:36.11 | squisher | Danielss89, check /var/log/apache/error.log |
| 19:36.22 | abrotman | krammer: we need to know your chipset first |
| 19:36.30 | squisher | Danielss89, maybe you don't have the directory / files set to be world readable / accessable? |
| 19:36.47 | krammer | lspci what should i look for ? |
| 19:36.49 | draeath | hi abrotman :) |
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| 19:37.07 | abrotman | hi |
| 19:37.15 | abrotman | krammer: the device? |
| 19:37.16 | JordiGH | If it's just a matter of icons that makes it nondistributable, that should be fairly easy to fix. We have tons of free icons. |
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| 19:37.38 | Danielss89 | squisher they are chmodded 755 |
| 19:37.41 | humbolt | I have a fingerprint of an ssl certificate. how can I check if it is legitimate? this does not concern https but imap via ssl. mail clients don't show the certificates in use. |
| 19:37.47 | krammer | i need to make a fresh install new to debian bb later thanx |
| 19:38.03 | Danielss89 | squisher the error is: Directory index forbidden by Options directive /var/www/stromfri |
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| 19:38.16 | Danielss89 | i havent forbid anything :D |
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| 19:38.32 | draeath | by default i think |
| 19:38.34 | squisher | Danielss89, so the perms are ok, but you need to setup a <Directory> or <Location> in apache to allow browsing of directories |
| 19:38.50 | squisher | Danielss89, or add an index.html / index.php or similar |
| 19:38.51 | draeath | stick an index.html in there and i bet that will come Danielss89 |
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| 19:39.05 | xplane | hey, I have a debian net-install ISO, how do i make it so it will boot off my USB drive, as debian won't boot from my CD drive |
| 19:39.10 | squisher | Danielss89, but essentially this is OT :-) Read up on apache configuration |
| 19:39.20 | abrotman | xplane: /msg dpkg usb install |
| 19:39.21 | draeath | any idea how long the lenny freeze will be? |
| 19:39.31 | abrotman | draeath: til it releases |
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| 19:40.12 | draeath | well, ive not been present for a release before. how long does it typically take? |
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| 19:40.29 | Danielss89 | squisher ive already done that.. and i have put an index.php file in the directory |
| 19:40.31 | wols | until it's finished |
| 19:40.37 | unixSnob | when a kernel is installed, does it /replace/ the old kernel, or come as another option, in parallel? |
| 19:40.42 | stew | draeath: a few months |
| 19:40.49 | draeath | youve got to have an idea? |
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| 19:41.00 | Flinx | I feel stupid... how do I add myself to a group >.<! |
| 19:41.02 | draeath | thanks stew, thats what i was curious for :) |
| 19:41.13 | squisher | Danielss89, try an index.html then, maybe index.php is not setup to be a valid index? Alternatively try your url, and add index.php explicitly |
| 19:41.15 | stew | draeath: http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical |
| 19:41.17 | unixSnob | Flinx: use the gui |
| 19:41.38 | unixSnob | Flinx: desktop::administration |
| 19:41.39 | Danielss89 | either are working squisher |
| 19:41.46 | Danielss89 | i will try asking in apache |
| 19:41.49 | unixSnob | Flinx: users and groups from there |
| 19:42.02 | draeath | that doesnt mean anything to me, im not a developer (bugs vs time isnt something i can gauge) |
| 19:42.03 | JordiGH | wonders if there is easily-accessible data between number of packages, number of RC bugs at freeze time, and length between full freeze and release for past distros. |
| 19:42.22 | Flinx | thanks |
| 19:42.25 | xplane | abrotman, i take it from that article i can just copy only the iso image to my usb drive, and do nothing else and it will boot? |
| 19:42.40 | abrotman | if that's what it says |
| 19:42.50 | JordiGH | We could easily do some regression on that data to get a rough estimate on when lenny might release. I bet there is a strong correlation between number of packages and freeze time. |
| 19:43.03 | draeath | anyways, not like i needed/wanted a date, just an idea from the people who can say |
| 19:43.06 | xplane | abrotman, it talks about iSO files at the end here : http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/i386/ch04s04.html.en |
| 19:43.08 | stew | draeath: it gets released when the green line hits zero, you can see the previous releases in that graph and get an idea of how far we have to go |
| 19:43.12 | Flinx | sweet |
| 19:43.13 | Flinx | thanks! |
| 19:43.18 | Flinx | *ducks out fora while |
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| 19:43.32 | JordiGH | draeath: Fearless leader said that September was the release goal. Yeah, right. :-) |
| 19:43.55 | JordiGH | I am guessing that fearless leader said that in order to get it done by December. :P |
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| 19:44.14 | themill | JordiGH: you've only got 9 debian releases and 2 independent variables so far. 3 if you count the number of DDs. They also had different release schemes regarding bug tracking and bug handling. You don't have enough data to do such an analysis in any sort of rigorous way. |
| 19:44.43 | draeath | wish i could help squish bugs |
| 19:44.56 | JordiGH | themill: You should see what gets passed off as data sometimes. ;-) |
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| 19:45.12 | stew | draeath: why can't you? |
| 19:45.17 | themill | JordiGH: I'm a scientist. I know full well what gets passed off as data on a regular basis. |
| 19:45.22 | dylanB_UCD | anyone know what may have caused the loopback mechanism (network) to stop working? |
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| 19:45.30 | dylanB_UCD | just upgraded to kernel 2.6.26 |
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| 19:45.46 | draeath | i cant handle much more than "hello world" level stuff... |
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| 19:46.00 | coffee1 | i hail from debby and ian |
| 19:46.07 | coffee1 | they call me coffee1 |
| 19:46.08 | draeath | and after work i just cant stand to help test. (im a beta analyst) |
| 19:46.12 | coffee1 | you could just call me coffee. |
| 19:46.12 | JordiGH | themill: Hey, if we get good r's, 9 data points might be enough. :P |
| 19:46.15 | stew | draeath: you could give it a shot. some bugs are that easy: http://bts.turmzimmer.net/details.php?bydist=lenny |
| 19:46.31 | draeath | really? hmm... |
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| 19:46.41 | themill | JordiGH: good luck with that |
| 19:46.46 | coffee1 | for(i=1, i<10^1000), i++) { echo "yo"; } |
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| 19:47.24 | trifler | or just yes |
| 19:47.30 | draeath | !trout coffee1 |
| 19:47.34 | coffee1 | eats trout |
| 19:47.43 | coffee1 | lol your bot's broken |
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| 19:48.05 | themill | !question coffee1 |
| 19:48.05 | dpkg | coffee1: Do you have a Debian-related question that we can help you with? If you do, please ask it and someone will try to help; if you do not, then please be quiet. |
| 19:48.14 | coffee1 | yes i have a question |
| 19:48.18 | draeath | lol. thanks for the support dpkg |
| 19:48.22 | coffee1 | how do i learn more about this wonderful OS called debian |
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| 19:48.38 | themill | dpkg: tell coffee1 about debian book |
| 19:48.39 | coffee1 | i wish to know all that is good and right |
| 19:49.00 | coffee1 | thank you, good and kind sir. |
| 19:49.06 | coffee1 | i shall go and read this book from whence i sit |
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| 19:50.08 | dylanB_UCD | actually it looks like ifup is not called at startup... anyone know why this may be >? |
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| 19:50.37 | squisher | dylanB_UCD, not set to 'auto' in /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 19:51.24 | dylanB_UCD | squisher, they are set to auto... |
| 19:51.35 | dylanB_UCD | only changed 1 thing since it last worked... the kernel. |
| 19:51.55 | dylanB_UCD | noticed that after upgrading to 2.6.26 i needed to add an entry in modules.conf |
| 19:52.10 | dylanB_UCD | for the e1000 module ... could this affect how ifupdown works? |
| 19:52.12 | squisher | dylanB_UCD, hmm, that shouldn't have anything to do with it if it works right now when you run it manually |
| 19:52.23 | dylanB_UCD | works when ran manually |
| 19:52.43 | squisher | dylanB_UCD, did you reboot after you added the modules.conf entry? |
| 19:52.50 | dylanB_UCD | yes |
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| 19:54.07 | KleinerHai | I just typed in : php into my server terminal. |
| 19:54.11 | KleinerHai | How can i get out? |
| 19:54.15 | JordiGH | Crap. Dreamhost uses sarge, not even etch. :-/ |
| 19:54.17 | squisher | KleinerHai, CTRL-D |
| 19:54.18 | KleinerHai | ctrl + c? |
| 19:54.23 | trifler | do it! |
| 19:54.27 | squisher | probably both :) |
| 19:54.32 | themill | !tias |
| 19:54.33 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, tias is try it and see, or what you should have done first |
| 19:54.33 | KleinerHai | Puuh :) |
| 19:54.35 | KleinerHai | Thanks :) |
| 19:54.38 | draeath | dammit. im stuck between fireworks and explosives outside, and opera inside. aaarrrggg!!! |
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| 19:55.27 | trifler | draeath: You should train youself a seamonkey |
| 19:55.41 | draeath | lol. no, the singing kind |
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| 19:56.28 | dylanB_UCD | back. |
| 19:56.49 | draeath | stuck visiting grandparents (guilty) and yea. fun all around. sorry for the OT |
| 19:56.52 | dylanB_UCD | squisher, looks like i needed to add : pre-up modprobe e1000 |
| 19:57.16 | dylanB_UCD | seems like /etc/modules.conf is read AFTER the network is setup |
| 19:57.21 | squisher | dylanB_UCD, funny, I always thought that the modules would get loaded on demand these days |
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| 19:57.42 | squisher | dylanB_UCD, you should have added it to /etc/modules |
| 19:57.53 | squisher | I don't even have a /etc/modules.conf |
| 19:57.58 | trifler | Me myself is doing a dist-upgrade on my p3 500 it takes quite awhile |
| 19:58.08 | dylanB_UCD | squisher, ack -- i meant /etc/modules |
| 19:58.09 | tecky | anyone have deb. running on a IBM Stinkpad ? |
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| 19:58.47 | dylanB_UCD | ok thanks'! |
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| 20:00.42 | KleinerHai | When I type in php i get some error codes. Does anyone knows what they mean? http://pastebin.com/d78082815 |
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| 20:04.11 | Stephen | cannot open shared object file clearly |
| 20:04.14 | krammer | no root file system is defined new to deb4 installing it now |
| 20:04.22 | Skept | KleinerHai: Try php.net, they have a page with the error codes in the docs |
| 20:04.53 | KleinerHai | Ah, thank you Skept. |
| 20:04.54 | draeath | krammer, gotta choose a partition to be / |
| 20:05.31 | krammer | im at primary (udno changes to partition, finsih prtitioning and write |
| 20:05.33 | abrotman | KleinerHai: the modules are trying to be loaded .. and you haven't installed the package for them |
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| 20:06.24 | KleinerHai | Abrotman, are these packages listed in this error code? |
| 20:06.42 | abrotman | you can make a decent guess |
| 20:06.48 | abrotman | apt-cache search php5 imap .. etc |
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| 20:07.14 | cipherz | The distribution field in the debian .changes files, it indicates which distribution the package is for, but when using reprepro, you specify the distribution when including a .deb package, so the .changes file has no meaning in that sense correct ? |
| 20:07.36 | cipherz | its merly understood as a hint to which distribution this version belongs ? |
| 20:08.30 | Skept | Oh. I feel stupid now. I didnt look at the pastebin link |
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| 20:12.01 | statim | is there a way to capture all output during a bash script so at the end of the script it can be mailed? |
| 20:12.15 | abrotman | script |
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| 20:12.21 | abrotman | or &> |
| 20:13.04 | statim | abrotman: does that mean i need a wrapper script? |
| 20:13.29 | Seldaek | heya, could anyone help me a bit with xinetd ? |
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| 20:15.00 | davi | How to record a video of my desktop? |
| 20:15.14 | cipherz | davi, xvidcap is one option, but try google for screencasting |
| 20:15.29 | cusco | gtk-recordmydesktop |
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| 20:16.09 | abrotman | statim: nope .. |
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| 20:16.23 | davi | cipherz, cusco, thanks, I will try both options |
| 20:16.33 | abrotman | istanbul |
| 20:16.58 | deus___ | Hi, i've installed "ipod" with apt-get and "libgpod3", but once I connect my iPod via USB, all it says is "okay to eject" .. gnome doesn't even automount it, any idea how to fix this? |
| 20:17.01 | DynV | I'm using gFTP but it doesn't do stuff like drag & drop files neither have a history, is there a client that is more user-friendly that way ? |
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| 20:17.25 | abrotman | DynV: filezilla maybe? |
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| 20:17.47 | DynV | abrotman: it's an app or mozilla plugin ? |
| 20:17.51 | abrotman | app |
| 20:17.52 | cr3rzemjest | hi |
| 20:17.58 | DynV | abrotman: cool thanks ! |
| 20:18.04 | LemensTS | I created a .deb package, it is on my server. I want to install it, how do i set it in sources.list? |
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| 20:19.29 | cr3rzemjest | can u boot installed Windows XP using virtualisation? (VirtualBox etc.) i mean, AFAIK, u have to install windows via VirtualBox/whatever in order to use it. but what if i have it already installed on HDD? can u boot it in a window? |
| 20:19.39 | wols | cr3rzemjest: no |
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| 20:20.17 | wols | LemensTS: use dpkg |
| 20:20.49 | cr3rzemjest | ;( |
| 20:21.21 | philluminati | cr3rzem: I think everybody including myself have asked the same question before and it can't really be done |
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| 20:21.42 | deus___ | when starting gtkpod and trying to "load iPod", i'm getting the following message: Error initialising iPod: Couldn't find the iPod firewire ID, but my iPod is connected via USB, how can I fix it |
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| 20:22.00 | cr3rzemjest | philluminati, ok... |
| 20:22.24 | philluminati | you'd get driver issues if it even got that far |
| 20:22.31 | dieg | cr3rzemjest, you can start a previously installed Windows XP from VMWare in Debian :) |
| 20:22.35 | cr3rzemjest | this .NET thing, it sucks, i think microsoft developed it to make apps even more not-portable |
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| 20:23.17 | dieg | cr3rzemjest, you need 2 different Windows hardware profiles |
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| 20:24.11 | Chapa | I have a problem with wireless connection and a pppoe debian server, where the connection does not fall every 20 'but I can not use any service that provides proxy server, VPN, but it sends packages and interface ppp0 not fall. mtu already tested, firewall, etc. .. someone help me? thanks |
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| 20:26.11 | __pok | god give me strength |
| 20:26.40 | ohno | looks at the ground |
| 20:26.52 | __pok | I'm trying to figure out how to (re-)compile the Etch shipped linux-image-2.6.18-6-xen-686 |
| 20:27.10 | __pok | it's the "xen" part that got me confused |
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| 20:27.35 | abrotman | why are you trying to recompile it at all? |
| 20:27.40 | __pok | back when I compiled it last time :) there used to be a linux-patch-xen |
| 20:27.42 | cr3rzemjest | eh i'll just download windows version of mono as suggested and if it fails... dunno |
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| 20:30.12 | soulchild | hi all |
| 20:30.26 | __pok | abrotman: as usual it's not about the kernel, really |
| 20:30.45 | __pok | abrotman: I have an updated USB device driver |
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| 20:31.01 | __pok | abrotman: ...that I wish to use on my dom0 |
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| 20:32.03 | soulchild | is freenode and this the offical debian irc server/channel ? |
| 20:32.17 | wols | no |
| 20:32.27 | wols | oftc is |
| 20:32.27 | soulchild | irc.debian.org ? |
| 20:32.31 | wols | yes |
| 20:32.47 | soulchild | ahh ,.. okay I ll have a look in the there |
| 20:32.51 | soulchild | so what is this then ? |
| 20:33.09 | newsense | theres many debian channels |
| 20:33.17 | newsense | on many networks |
| 20:33.42 | newsense | theres double the people in #debian here than on oftc |
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| 20:33.48 | Seldaek | it's the official channel for freenode users too lazy to connect somewhere else I'd say:) |
| 20:34.14 | newsense | oftcx has sll though :) |
| 20:34.17 | soulchild | sll ? |
| 20:34.19 | newsense | oftcx/oftc |
| 20:34.26 | soulchild | ssl ? |
| 20:34.32 | newsense | sorry keyboard got spilled on |
| 20:34.32 | newsense | ssl |
| 20:34.37 | soulchild | ahh ok |
| 20:34.46 | newsense | need a new one |
| 20:34.55 | soulchild | it seems, that users are not very active there ? |
| 20:35.08 | abrotman | do you have an actual support question ? |
| 20:35.09 | soulchild | 2 minutes left and nobody wrote |
| 20:35.12 | newsense | i idle in both 24/7 |
| 20:35.17 | soulchild | abrotman: me ? |
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| 20:35.52 | newsense | soulchild: yes you |
| 20:35.52 | Seldaek | I'd like someone to help with xinetd setup for some experiment, if you're bored :) |
| 20:36.13 | soulchild | Me, I am actually sitting on the toilett,... :D |
| 20:36.29 | jelly-home | irc pooper! |
| 20:36.41 | jetscreamer | die oftc die |
| 20:36.51 | jetscreamer | brbbl |
| 20:37.00 | soulchild | jelly-home: guilty |
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| 20:37.26 | newsense | oftc offers ssl and its not a pain in the ass to get a hostmask |
| 20:37.31 | davi | Can I do an dist-upgrade with apt, or must I use aptitude? |
| 20:37.39 | abrotman | eihter |
| 20:37.45 | davi | thanks abrotman |
| 20:37.46 | abrotman | aptitude is recommended though |
| 20:37.49 | rahul | aptitude is more likely to work |
| 20:37.53 | davi | ah! |
| 20:37.58 | rahul | apt might get you into sticky situations |
| 20:38.05 | rahul | apt-get, that is |
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| 20:38.48 | chalcedony | is there a command to change the time in debian server ? as root |
| 20:39.05 | peppe | chalcedony: date? ntpdate? |
| 20:39.17 | chalcedony | ty peppe |
| 20:39.33 | davi | I will try the hard way. I will use apt-get dist-upgrade and then do an aptitude to see what is fixed is any. |
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| 20:44.47 | _Sync_ | hio, i want to run a java application called cachewolf, i think i need the Eve VM for it but making eve for gtk2 fails with: No package 'gtk+-2.0' found |
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| 20:45.43 | squisher | _Sync_, you probably don't have the dev packages for gtk installed |
| 20:46.08 | squisher | _Sync_, you probably need libgtk2.0-dev |
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| 20:46.50 | _Sync_ | okay, lets see squisher |
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| 20:48.03 | keith4_ | what happened to #debian-sparc? |
| 20:48.20 | _Sync_ | okay here we go squisher thanks |
| 20:48.28 | squisher | np |
| 20:49.06 | _Sync_ | meh, now it fails because something else |
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| 20:51.54 | Nyle | hello |
| 20:52.02 | Nyle | rahul gandoo |
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| 21:01.24 | x03 | in debian how can i run some script as particular user in boot ? |
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| 21:02.53 | newsense | x03: su user command ? |
| 21:03.49 | soulchild | 7QUIT |
| 21:03.54 | soulchild | damn, CAPS |
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| 21:11.35 | philluminati | listen, my housemate is running uTorrent and its stopping me from getting a good speed with kTorrent |
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| 21:11.44 | dieg | xD |
| 21:11.59 | dieg | ettercap and kill all connections from his IP |
| 21:12.03 | dieg | :P |
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| 21:26.47 | Chicago | I accidentally 'gem uninstall sources'. How do I fix it? I can't pull in gems anymore. |
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| 21:28.13 | keith4_ | I have a dilemna. I'm running etch on a machine with 2 network interfaces. In 2.6.18, firehol doesn't work with sparc64. I installed the 2.6.24 kernel from etchnhalf, and now firehol works, but the machine hangs when I bring up the second network interface |
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| 21:36.56 | PakiPenguin | Hello everyone |
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| 21:37.38 | PakiPenguin | I am using etch , and require glibc 2.5 , right now i have 2.3.6 , any pointers how? |
| 21:38.18 | rahul | PakiPenguin: you don't |
| 21:38.34 | PakiPenguin | rahul: i don't or i can't? |
| 21:38.38 | rahul | PakiPenguin: glibc is pretty much the anchor of any unix system |
| 21:38.47 | rahul | well, libc in general, glibc for gnu |
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| 21:39.02 | rahul | you can, but then you won't have etch |
| 21:39.12 | PakiPenguin | ah |
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| 21:42.36 | Chicago | I broke rubygems by 'gem uninstalling everything'... and now when I want to 'gem install something' I get this error -> http://rafb.net/p/g01Tee54.html |
| 21:42.52 | Chicago | Anybody know howto use only apt-get to solve this problem? |
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| 21:55.06 | vassler | okay, i just installed debian: does it support any desktop effects or compiz or anything? if so, how do i get this working? |
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| 21:58.03 | vassler | Hello?? |
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| 22:01.08 | drako | why i have this stupid ping in my LAN ? 64 bytes from 192.168.0.253: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.165 ms |
| 22:01.08 | drako | 64 bytes from 192.168.0.253: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=1.21 ms |
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| 22:01.15 | drako | sorry. |
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| 22:01.40 | vassler | i need help. where are the visual desktop settings in debian? anyone? |
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| 22:05.53 | Chicago | I want to 'apt-get install ruby' and I also want to 'apt-get install rubygems'. I have manually deleted files in /var/lib/gems and in /usr/lib/ruby. |
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| 22:06.37 | Chicago | apt-get doesn't seem to unpack the debs and repopulate the files in /var/lib/gems and /usr/lib/ruby... How do I tell apt-get to unpack the deb again, like it did the first time? |
| 22:07.35 | Meaw | apt-get will unpack the packages after it's downloaded |
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| 22:09.12 | Chicago | Meaw: I am trying to describe that I broke the default environment for the rubygems package and that I want to recreate it again. |
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| 22:09.39 | Chicago | Meaw: The problem is, I expected 'apt-get install rubygems' to fill files into /var/lib/gems. |
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| 22:10.16 | Meaw | paste the errors |
| 22:10.22 | Meaw | pastebin.com |
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| 22:13.05 | shadowarts | what group has gid 50 as default debian etch? |
| 22:13.25 | shadowarts | i accidentally deleted that group from /etc/group |
| 22:13.53 | Chicago | Meaw: Line 23-24 show how I think I definitely broke the setup. -> http://pastebin.com/m6d553b5d Line 50 shows the gem command now working. |
| 22:14.06 | Chicago | Meaw: Not working, rather. |
| 22:14.08 | Chicago | excuse me |
| 22:14.09 | ben_goodger | shadowarts: staff, I think |
| 22:14.32 | shadowarts | what is that group used for? |
| 22:14.39 | ben_goodger | I haven't a clue |
| 22:15.22 | zyx386 | why i have 3 nm-applet icon on startup? http://www.postimage.org/gx1EXuWi-0aad3486302d6dffd97a33b5c7d9fb6a.png |
| 22:15.29 | zyx386 | i will just one :) |
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| 22:17.46 | Meaw | Chicago, you shouldn't remove it like that, you should use --purge remove |
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| 22:18.21 | dex | hola |
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| 22:18.23 | dex | estimados |
| 22:18.32 | dex | tengo un problema... |
| 22:18.48 | Chicago | Meaw: ty, I didn't know about --purge remove. I am familiarizing myself with man apt-get |
| 22:18.50 | Chicago | hola |
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| 22:23.49 | Chicago | Meaw: Okay, I set 'apt-get --purge remove ruby' 'apt-get --purge remove rubygems' and then re-installed them. My rubygem environment still gives the same output. -> http://pastebin.com/m3de8caed |
| 22:24.13 | quagga | so, how do i get an aptitude with super cow powers? |
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| 22:25.24 | themill | !moo |
| 22:25.24 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you could be too; join us all! type apt-get moo. aplay /usr/lib/openoffice/share/gallery/sounds/cow.wav |
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| 22:26.24 | newsense | chi-town! |
| 22:26.36 | newsense | whats good chicago |
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| 22:26.51 | Chicago | newsense: Hello |
| 22:26.57 | voraistos | WOW |
| 22:27.08 | newsense | 147th st here |
| 22:27.10 | quagga | there are no easter-eggs in this program |
| 22:27.21 | quagga | well that's unacceptable. i'd say its a regression |
| 22:27.28 | voraistos | My seedbox was doing pretty bad. I mean, 100% cpu usage with rtorrent down, i was wondering what was going on..... |
| 22:27.38 | Meaw | quagga, are you the same guy in freeciv? |
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| 22:27.58 | voraistos | a netstat gave me the answer... somehow a LOT of people discovered my http server :O |
| 22:28.06 | quagga | Meaw: nope. i don't think i've ever played freeciv |
| 22:28.24 | Meaw | shadowarts, securing debian manual explains what group staff for http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/index.en.html |
| 22:28.47 | Meaw | quagga, oh ok.. that game suck anyway |
| 22:28.50 | themill | #debian-offtopic would love you to chat in there, guys. |
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| 22:28.59 | shadowarts | Meaw: thanks, ill take a look |
| 22:29.02 | newsense | pirates of the caribbean online is where its at ;P |
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| 22:30.00 | DawnLight | encryption is fun |
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| 22:33.44 | jetscreamer | ok. i have windows me, a second hd with dvd's 1&2 .iso's on it, no cd burner and goodbye-windows.com doesn't support windows me. what do i do. |
| 22:34.01 | jetscreamer | and usb interweb not supported by the installer afaik |
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| 22:35.06 | jetscreamer | no nic |
| 22:35.27 | jetscreamer | just usb wireless |
| 22:36.56 | dondelelcaro | jetscreamer: can you usb boot? |
| 22:37.32 | DawnLight | jetscreamer: it doesn't support windows me?? |
| 22:38.43 | DawnLight | i'm corrently facing a netbooted debian installer on a laptop. docs are good and it isn't so complicated |
| 22:38.55 | jetscreamer | i don't know but if the box supports it, i do have a usb stick |
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| 22:39.08 | jetscreamer | it's a smelleron |
| 22:39.10 | DawnLight | if you have another debian box... |
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| 22:39.15 | jetscreamer | i810 |
| 22:39.18 | jetscreamer | i do |
| 22:39.27 | jetscreamer | no nic though |
| 22:39.36 | DawnLight | what do you mean no nic |
| 22:39.46 | jetscreamer | no network interface card |
| 22:39.48 | DawnLight | what system is that |
| 22:39.59 | DawnLight | put a nic in it |
| 22:40.19 | jetscreamer | all mine are broke :) i have about 6 in a box somewhere |
| 22:40.32 | jetscreamer | i'll try the usb stick |
| 22:40.40 | DawnLight | broke? all 6? try the stick... |
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| 22:40.50 | jetscreamer | i 'think' i have some floppies |
| 22:40.56 | voraistos | got any idea what this is ? |
| 22:41.05 | voraistos | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 28 2008-07-31 19:38 nologin -> /var/lib/initscripts/nologin |
| 22:41.10 | peter_12_ | Is there a command line tool that displays the current run level? Or what is the current run level for an interactive shell login? |
| 22:41.12 | jetscreamer | yeah they're old ... i 'think' one works, but i'm not sure even where they are |
| 22:41.20 | jetscreamer | type runlevel iirc |
| 22:41.24 | jetscreamer | or is it init |
| 22:41.29 | voraistos | i dont like the fact it appears in red |
| 22:41.55 | jetscreamer | red means it's a script, i 'think' (i forget) |
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| 22:42.07 | jetscreamer | or was it compressed |
| 22:42.11 | pipeline | peter_12_: shockingly it's "runlevel" |
| 22:42.26 | Chicago | Meaw: Do you have any suggestions on how to run gem again? |
| 22:42.30 | peter_12_ | :-0 |
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| 22:43.01 | peter_12_ | pipeline: thank you |
| 22:43.19 | Meaw | Chicago, try apt-get install ruby ruby-devel ruby-irb ruby-libs ruby-rdoc ruby-ri rubygems |
| 22:43.45 | voraistos | its got rwx for everybody, and i cant cat it |
| 22:43.46 | Chicago | Meaw: E: Couldn't find package ruby-devel |
| 22:43.57 | Meaw | hm |
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| 22:44.05 | Meaw | apt-cache search ruby |
| 22:44.07 | voraistos | no such file or directory it say.... well, its obviously there |
| 22:44.09 | Chicago | Meaw: E: Couldn't find package ruby-irb |
| 22:44.54 | Meaw | what gem version? |
| 22:44.59 | Meaw | gem --version in console |
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| 22:45.39 | Chicago | Meaw: There is a lot of output from 'apt-cache search ruby' -> http://pastebin.com/m576527d8 |
| 22:46.17 | DawnLight | what is a grub password good for when i have encrypted disks? |
| 22:47.11 | SerajewelKS | DawnLight: depends if your /boot is encrypted |
| 22:47.19 | SerajewelKS | DawnLight: if it is, nothing |
| 22:47.19 | voraistos | maybe its a broken link or something ? |
| 22:47.24 | Chicago | Meaw: gem --version doesn't work anymore -> http://pastebin.com/m3c9c6ca3 It's not finding rubygems from line 9 of /usr/bin/gem |
| 22:47.30 | SerajewelKS | DawnLight: if it's not, it prevents people booting other media on your system |
| 22:47.47 | SerajewelKS | with an appropriately restricted set of BIOS options |
| 22:48.10 | themill | Chicago: have you tried reinstalling the libgems-ruby1.8 package? |
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| 22:49.15 | lkni | Hi when using a self signed certificate with apache2 I get this error on my browsers: "Error code: ssl_error_rx_record_too_long" |
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| 22:49.28 | lkni | can someone help me out with that? |
| 22:49.40 | keith4_ | try #apache |
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| 22:52.08 | Meaw | Chicago, did you install the ruby dev packages? i've never installed it but the apt-cache search output shows many files |
| 22:52.14 | karmatronic | hi guyd |
| 22:52.35 | karmatronic | do you know a way to disable dri only on a second screen _ |
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| 22:55.04 | Chicago | Meaw: 'apt-get install ruby-dev' just added ruby1.8-dev_1.8.5-4etch2_amd64.deb |
| 22:55.38 | Meaw | ruby1.8-dev |
| 22:56.31 | Chicago | Meaw: 'apt-get install ruby1.8-dev' happens to also install ruby1.8-dev_1.8.5-4etch2_amd64.deb |
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| 22:59.22 | Meaw | Chicago, what gem update says? |
| 22:59.33 | themill | Chicago: have you tried reinstalling the libgems-ruby1.8 package? |
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| 23:00.14 | Chicago | themill: Meaw: I have been following both your suggestions. -> this is the current output from gem -v and gem update --> http://pastebin.com/m13505c29 |
| 23:00.15 | mr_daniel | for example: I installed a package X which depends on another packages Y_1, Y_2, ..., Y_n |
| 23:00.26 | mr_daniel | X is the ONLY package which needs and depends on Y_1, Y_2, ..., Y_n |
| 23:00.43 | Chicago | themill: Meaw: I did also install libgems-ruby1.8. Each of the related ruby packages I did an apt-get --purge remove and then a reinstall of. |
| 23:00.43 | mr_daniel | now I want to remove X. how can I say apt-get "please also remove Y_1, Y_2, ..., Y_n, because X is the only that needed this packages" ?!? |
| 23:01.07 | DawnLight | can i tell update-grub to add lock to all entries? |
| 23:01.12 | themill | mr_daniel: etch or lenny? |
| 23:01.17 | DawnLight | i can't see a built-in for that |
| 23:01.30 | Thoku | mr_daniel: apt-get remove X && apt-get autoclean |
| 23:01.37 | DawnLight | i can see an option to lock only the alternatives |
| 23:01.48 | themill | Thoku: that doesn't actually do what he wants |
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| 23:02.32 | Thoku | themill: It would remove all packages that no longer are needed, wouldn't it? |
| 23:02.32 | Chicago | themill: Meaw: It seems to me right now that /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rubygems.rb isn't finding /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rbconfig... |
| 23:02.42 | themill | Chicago: I take it you've reinstalled libruby1.8? |
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| 23:02.58 | themill | Thoku: no. man apt-get and look at what autoclean actually does |
| 23:02.58 | abrotman | mr_daniel: if you use aptitude .. that's automagic |
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| 23:03.26 | mr_daniel | themill: you are right, I don't want a 'autoclen' but a 'autoremove' |
| 23:03.30 | mr_daniel | just looked at the man-page |
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| 23:03.54 | themill | mr_daniel: if you're using lenny, then yes. That option isn't available under etch, hence my first question. |
| 23:03.58 | Thoku | themill: ah. My bad, I always use those the wrong way round :( |
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| 23:04.09 | themill | Thoku: :) |
| 23:04.14 | mr_daniel | Thoku: :) |
| 23:04.39 | mr_daniel | seems to work, themill & Thoku, thanky for your help :) |
| 23:04.41 | Chicago | themill: Meaw: Thanks, it's working better now. after 'apt-get --purge remove libruby1.8' and then 'apt-get install libruby1.8 ruby rubygems' it seems that gems work again. :) |
| 23:04.44 | Chicago | muchas gracias |
| 23:05.06 | Meaw | no problema |
| 23:05.14 | themill | Chicago: no worries. apt-file is your friend. |
| 23:05.38 | Chicago | themill: Now off to 'gem install everything' |
| 23:05.57 | themill | whatever does it for you |
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| 23:06.07 | Chicago | themill: Meaw: Have you tried puppet? http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/AboutPuppet |
| 23:06.40 | Meaw | im much into servers installation :) |
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| 23:09.24 | Chicago | Meaw: Well this puppet system is tied closely to ruby... I am testing it against gentoo and debian. And each of the two distros have their own package manager... but the puppet system seems to want to be installed from its gem 'gem install puppet'... |
| 23:10.18 | Chicago | Meaw: So, hopefully the first steps from a shiny new debian would be to install rubygems and then 'gem install rails facter puppet' and then have the puppet server handle interacting with apt-get. |
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| 23:16.00 | jelly-home | Chicago: puppet requires rails on a client? |
| 23:17.15 | Chicago | jelly-home: At least it requires ruby. It also requires facter which is a gem. The client might not need rails, but the puppetmasterd server does for sure. |
| 23:18.33 | jelly-home | phew. that would be rather bloaty |
| 23:19.26 | Chicago | jelly-home: The puppetmasterd also needs 'gem install hobo RubyRRDtool shadow' and maybe one or two other things. |
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| 23:23.53 | Chicago | themill: Meaw: Almost all the gems I wanted installed successfully except for this one. RubyRRDtool Am I still missing something? http://pastebin.com/m903c5f3 |
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| 23:25.21 | themill | apt-file search mkmf => ruby1.8-dev |
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| 23:26.37 | Chicago | themill: On my end 'apt-file search mkmf' shows up empty |
| 23:27.08 | themill | did you "apt-file update" after installing apt-file? |
| 23:27.16 | Chicago | themill: ty 'apt-get install ruby1.8-dev' 'gem install RubyRRDtool' made it work fine. |
| 23:27.25 | themill | :) |
| 23:27.46 | themill | knows absolutely nothing about ruby, but can drive apt-file |
| 23:27.53 | Chicago | themill: No, I hadn't installed apt-file before and didn't know to do apt-file update... I am more familiar with Gentoo's package manager. |
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| 23:28.20 | abrotman | gentoo has a package manager? |
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| 23:28.42 | themill | Chicago: often worth having a read of /usr/share/doc/packagename/* after installing things. In particular README and README.Debian |
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| 23:28.48 | Chicago | abrotman: The version control on /usr/portage lets the portage program mange the installed packages using emerge. |
| 23:28.51 | themill | (that and man pages...) |
| 23:29.11 | abrotman | Chicago: lies! |
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| 23:36.50 | mindqaugas | how to build web server with debian ? |
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| 23:38.18 | newsense | apt-get install apache? |
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| 23:42.55 | cameodemon | hey i heard some gossip about a _new_ debian stable? upgrading to lenny? |
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| 23:45.48 | cameodemon | or rather, when is lenny becoming the new stable core of debian? |
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| 23:48.38 | SerajewelKS | !wwlr |
| 23:48.38 | dpkg | Lenny(5.0) will release WIR; SIYH, hopefully in the second half of 2008. Ask me about <lenny pool>, <wir>, <siyh>. also see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2008/07/msg00005.html or lenny will not release until there are no more release critical bugs: http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical and see "Number concerning the next release:", or <lenny status> |
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