| 00:00.29 | sha1 | okay if you have narrowed down a problem of users of a web application not receiving e-mail, but sendmail works with a test message from CLI, how would you go about troubleshooting PHP and Sendmail if PHP is obviously outputting to apache, and all of your scripts used to be functional |
| 00:00.35 | sha1 | ? |
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| 00:21.16 | samantha-b- | so i have a used-to-be-usb drive. i ripped the case off and popped the drive out and hung it on the sata bus. the partition table lists it as type aa (unknown) although when i fdisk'd the drive originally it was set up as 83 (Linux) and formatted ext3. if i change the partition type back, am i going to jack the data on the drive? |
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| 00:23.59 | scarface88 | How can I fix kde and get my hd_audio card, does any one know the name of package for the the driver fog my realtek HD audio card? |
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| 00:26.43 | aiori | im getting this error when i do apt-get - connect (111 Connection refused) |
| 00:27.05 | aiori | i use the standard source list for debian 4 |
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| 00:27.52 | PotataChipz | hello all. I am a noob with a fresh debian install. How do I configure/troubleshoot wireless internet access? I'm going to have to reboot into the other partition (in which I cannot access the internets!), so I'd appreciate some starting points that I can write down, and report back on. Thanks! |
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| 00:31.16 | scarface88 | How can I fix kde, does any one know the name of package for the the driver fog my realtek HD audio card? |
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| 00:33.48 | streuner | fix KDE? |
| 00:33.52 | streuner | scarface88: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
| 00:33.56 | Pavlz | hello i need help |
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| 00:34.40 | streuner | fine, ask your debian question here |
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| 00:35.51 | streuner | !seen abrotman |
| 00:35.51 | dpkg | abrotman <n=abrotman@pdpc/supporter/active/abrotman> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 3h 35m 15s ago, saying: 'pickcoder: maybe iptables ?'. |
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| 00:39.05 | Pavlz | tiscali.it offers 2 types of connection the first one is 8mbit/sec in download and 384 kbit/sec in upload, for 28,95 euro, 30 minutes of traffic phone after these 30 minutes to pay 15 cents of uero, the second option is a 20 mbit/sec in download and 1 mbit/sec in upload but is forbidden to call with phone, now the question is if i take the adsl to 20 mbit/sec can use a client sip GNU General Public License and if yes which one ? the cost for a 20mbit/sec |
| 00:40.05 | ltbarcly | is this #ubuntu ? |
| 00:40.42 | streuner | looks around? |
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| 00:41.27 | wols_ | schmiddy`: snd-hda-intel is the driver |
| 00:41.48 | wols_ | damn he's gone |
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| 00:43.39 | streuner | ltbarcly: /topic |
| 00:43.45 | hikenboot | greetings i have sound on my system except thru iceweasel for instance on youtube anyone know how to fix it? |
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| 00:44.13 | streuner | hikenboot: and you are using ALSA? |
| 00:44.20 | hikenboot | yes alsa-oss |
| 00:44.44 | streuner | hm, write a mail to adobe and ask why there plugins sucks |
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| 00:45.06 | SeveredCross | libflashsupport usually helps. |
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| 00:45.16 | ltbarcly | ... NOT AVAILABLE? /msg dpkg no public key | THIS IS #ubuntu | FAQ: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianIRC | /msg ... |
| 00:45.19 | ltbarcly | that's what confused me |
| 00:45.28 | streuner | hikenboot: using non-free flash plugin? |
| 00:45.40 | hikenboot | i chainged in /etc/iceweasel/iceweaselrc to esdsp and a couple others but no luck |
| 00:45.45 | streuner | heh |
| 00:45.47 | hikenboot | yes |
| 00:45.53 | ltbarcly | hikenboot: look at the script that starts firefox/iceweasel, there is some stuff about alsa, esound etc in there |
| 00:46.01 | ltbarcly | tweak that as needed |
| 00:46.17 | ltbarcly | oh, nevermind |
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| 00:47.08 | streuner | hikenboot: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
| 00:47.12 | streuner | btw |
| 00:47.18 | cospag | Hi, anyone know if you can install debian on those new asus, Solid State harddrive laptops by asus? and anyone know what distro they come with? |
| 00:47.48 | streuner | !eeepc |
| 00:47.48 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, eee is see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC, or #debian-eeepc on irc.oftc.net, or see http://debian-eeepc.alioth.debian.org/ |
| 00:48.12 | cospag | thanks streuner this channel is awesome |
| 00:49.04 | hikenboot | http://pastebin.ca/1094314 |
| 00:49.28 | streuner | !info libc6 lenny |
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| 00:49.48 | dpkg | libc6: (GNU C Library: Shared libraries), section libs, is required. Version: 2.7-10 (lenny), Packaged size: 4301 kB, Installed size: 10400 kB |
| 00:50.11 | streuner | hikenboot: /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 00:51.14 | aiori | im getting this error when i do apt-get - connect (111 Connection refused) |
| 00:51.18 | aiori | anybody? |
| 00:51.28 | streuner | packages.debian.org/flashplugin-nonfree |
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| 00:51.56 | aiori | anybody? |
| 00:52.16 | streuner | hikenboot: what does "dpkg -l flashplugin-nonfree" say? |
| 00:52.26 | jpinx | aiori: what are you doing? |
| 00:52.43 | aiori | im using the default source list |
| 00:52.54 | aiori | but i got that problem |
| 00:52.56 | jpinx | default from a CD install? |
| 00:53.02 | aiori | nop |
| 00:53.04 | aiori | from the web |
| 00:53.18 | streuner | hikenboot: its strange, because there is actually no package in lenny/testing, so you shouldn't have that installed... |
| 00:53.21 | jpinx | aiori: man apt-get |
| 00:53.28 | aiori | deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib non-free |
| 00:53.30 | hikenboot | http://pastebin.ca/1094318 |
| 00:53.43 | jpinx | there is no command apt-get - connect that I can see |
| 00:53.43 | aiori | man apt-get doesn't resolve this problem |
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| 00:54.02 | streuner | hikenboot: hm, it isn't installed actually... |
| 00:54.17 | jpinx | aiori: what is the exact command you are entering |
| 00:54.29 | streuner | install that first, and you might have sound then |
| 00:54.30 | hikenboot | what isnt installed flashplugin-nonfree? |
| 00:54.31 | aiori | aptitude update |
| 00:54.35 | streuner | yes |
| 00:54.39 | hikenboot | ok |
| 00:54.56 | jpinx | aiori: are you root? |
| 00:55.08 | aiori | yes |
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| 00:56.12 | aiori | check this jpinx - http://bongzilla.pastebin.com/m3eb74f18 |
| 00:56.38 | streuner | hikenboot: please read "man dpkg" too, you have prolly more fun with Debian then in future |
| 00:56.51 | samantha-b- | so i have a used-to-be-usb drive. i ripped the case off and popped the drive out and hung it on the sata bus. the partition table lists it as type aa (unknown) although when i fdisk'd the drive originally it was set up as 83 (Linux) and formatted ext3. if i change the partition type back, am i going to jack the data on the drive? |
| 00:57.48 | pipeline | samantha-b-: assuming the partition table isn't totally boned, changing th partition type shouldn't matter. |
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| 00:57.54 | aiori | do you know that issue jpinx? |
| 00:59.29 | jpinx | aiori: that doesn't look like the default source list |
| 00:59.41 | ApOgEE- | hehe |
| 00:59.43 | aiori | its the default |
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| 01:00.12 | aiori | let say its the default, but still this problem occur |
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| 01:00.32 | aiori | what do you think jpinx? |
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| 01:00.50 | KDE4000 | hi |
| 01:00.54 | KDE4000 | dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: gperf |
| 01:00.56 | KDE4000 | i find no such gpref package |
| 01:01.41 | jpinx | aiori: I think your sources suck |
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| 01:02.17 | aiori | suck your mother's pussy jpinx, hahahaha!!!!!! |
| 01:02.30 | rgr | how do I get a seperate firefox instance running on a second x screen? It says the process is busy. |
| 01:02.33 | aiori | super geek!!!!!! |
| 01:02.42 | hikenboot | streuner, what should I put in my apt sources.list to get it if its not available ...backports or somthing? |
| 01:02.43 | amphi | !!!! |
| 01:02.43 | dpkg | "Multiple exclamation marks," he went on, shaking his head, "are a sure sign of a diseased mind." - Terry Pratchett, Eric |
| 01:03.12 | streuner | hikenboot: just download it at packages.debian.org (unstable) |
| 01:03.15 | KDE4000 | lol @ dpkg bot |
| 01:03.21 | jpinx | aiori: see #flood |
| 01:03.29 | streuner | hikenboot: we told you before, its not in testing |
| 01:03.41 | aiori | hahahahaha!!!! |
| 01:03.46 | hikenboot | ah so it wont work at all? |
| 01:03.49 | KDE4000 | why is there no gpref package, and yet to build coreutils, i need gpref? |
| 01:03.51 | aiori | the super geek reacts!!!!! |
| 01:03.54 | aiori | hahahaha!!!! |
| 01:04.09 | KDE4000 | aiori: take it easy or the admins may kick/ban you |
| 01:04.13 | streuner | hikenboot: it should, its just a script that download the package from adobe :-) |
| 01:04.15 | amphi | thinks aiori fails the Turing test |
| 01:04.28 | aiori | no it's not |
| 01:04.54 | aiori | it really fun to get a geek like jpinx |
| 01:04.56 | aiori | hahaha!!! |
| 01:05.03 | jpinx | has better things to do.... |
| 01:05.31 | aiori | jpinx has better things to do, comb his geek hair, hahahaha!!!! |
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| 01:05.49 | streuner | hikenboot: http://packages.debian.org/sid/flashplugin-nonfree |
| 01:06.00 | joneal | hi |
| 01:06.07 | hikenboot | thanks streuner |
| 01:06.23 | streuner | argh |
| 01:06.39 | joneal | hello |
| 01:07.23 | streuner | damn, /me isn't able to say np in order to give advise for non-free... |
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| 01:08.15 | aiori | hahahaha!!! |
| 01:08.42 | streuner | hikenboot: you're welcome |
| 01:10.54 | hikenboot | streauner, I am afraid all I get is a buzzing sound |
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| 01:11.55 | streuner | hikenboot: what's the URL? |
| 01:12.14 | joneal | I got a local repository working |
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| 01:14.48 | streuner | hikenboot: show us the link (flash) |
| 01:15.01 | streuner | hikenboot: some youtube stuff? |
| 01:15.13 | hikenboot | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zj53rVWK5z0 |
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| 01:17.03 | Lagbolt | hikenboot, didnt you ask this last night? that link is to the youtube page, not the flash video |
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| 01:17.30 | streuner | hikenboot: no sound here too... |
| 01:17.49 | hikenboot | no didnt ask it last night |
| 01:17.58 | hikenboot | hold on |
| 01:18.30 | streuner | that video is broken |
| 01:18.39 | hikenboot | on www.slashdot.org the one titled NASA Plans Test of New Plasma Drive theres a link there |
| 01:18.57 | streuner | omg ./ |
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| 01:20.44 | martijn81 | anyone interested howto install windows vista? |
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| 01:21.01 | streuner | you are in the wrong channel :-) |
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| 01:22.06 | martijn81 | streuner: just a joke-> http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=FVbf9tOGwno |
| 01:24.06 | SerajewelKS | is there a live cd i can use to resize an ntfs partition? |
| 01:24.09 | streuner | haha |
| 01:24.13 | SerajewelKS | knoppix kinda fucked it up |
| 01:24.13 | gkffjcs_ | I have a question about firefox, I downloaded the binary package from the firefox website, and extracted it into a folder in my home directory, then ran the firefox script, which starts up ff and firefox-bin the actual meat of the program. It works fine once, but the second time I try it it says I have no internet access. If I move the entire package to a different directory it works fine once anyone have any ideas, or for that |
| 01:24.14 | gkffjcs_ | matter experienced the same thing? solution? |
| 01:24.25 | streuner | martijn81: yeah, it seems i like this guy ;-) |
| 01:24.49 | wols | SerajewelKS: any livecd with gparted |
| 01:25.16 | SerajewelKS | wols: knoppix has qtparted, it didn't do very well. windows refused to boot. |
| 01:25.42 | wols | you need to fixboot afterwards of course if it's a bootable partition |
| 01:25.42 | streuner | !martijn81++ |
| 01:26.04 | wols | and of course make sure the partition is still the same or change boot.ini |
| 01:26.04 | martijn81 | SerajewelKS: you better use gparted, it is more advanced |
| 01:26.19 | SerajewelKS | wols: heh, new territory for me then. i resized my bootable partition on this box and it didn't require that step, unless gparted did it for me. |
| 01:26.26 | SerajewelKS | martijn81: afaik they both use the same backend |
| 01:26.37 | SerajewelKS | at any rate, i'm not sure which livecds have gparted |
| 01:26.37 | martijn81 | oh it does? |
| 01:26.42 | SerajewelKS | martijn81: libparted :) |
| 01:26.46 | SerajewelKS | martijn81: they are both frontends |
| 01:26.50 | wols | the gparted livecd for example does |
| 01:26.51 | martijn81 | sidux has gparted |
| 01:26.55 | joneal | hi |
| 01:27.09 | SerajewelKS | wols: ah nice, didn't know they put out one of their own |
| 01:27.10 | martijn81 | which is debian sid based too |
| 01:27.21 | infinitycircuit | parteg magic livecd is the one you want i think |
| 01:27.22 | wols | now that you have a non booting windows you should maybe fix that first before you do even more harm resizing |
| 01:27.34 | SerajewelKS | wols: yes, i am using the factory reset dvds |
| 01:27.39 | streuner | !grml |
| 01:27.40 | dpkg | grml is a bootable CD (Live-CD) originally <based on> Knoppix, now Debian. grml includes a collection of GNU/Linux software especially for users of texttools and system administrators. grml provides automatic hardware detection. You can use grml for example as a rescue system, for analyzing systems/networks or as a working environment. http://grml.org/, or #grml @ irc.freenode.net |
| 01:27.40 | joneal | Just out of curiosity, I notice that up at the top it says that this is the #debian-overflow channel so is this not the official debian channel? |
| 01:27.41 | SerajewelKS | wols: i had to delete the partition to get even those to boot |
| 01:27.59 | wols | *sigh* people shouldn't be allowed to do certain things |
| 01:28.00 | SerajewelKS | wols: apparently they were trying to examine the partition to see if it could be recovered without a reformat and crashed or something |
| 01:28.09 | SerajewelKS | wols: pardon? |
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| 01:29.09 | SerajewelKS | wols: it's a new system, not like we're dealing with catastrophic data loss. i went into this knowing it would probably take a few tries to get right. |
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| 01:30.57 | SvenDowideit_ | Hi all - I have just built my own experimental debian repository with reprepro, and wondered if there was a repos2rss tool |
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| 01:52.54 | sealion | Does the latest netinst image (either stable or testing) contain support for AHCI-enabled SATA devices? |
| 01:53.37 | sealion | I've tried using an older netinst I had laying around that has the 2.6.15 kernel, but it couldn't detect my SATA CD-ROM. |
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| 02:04.13 | cospag | I installed on ibm thinkcentre with sata, not sure if it was AHCI, but it worked fine |
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| 02:05.44 | raptelan|bepress | has anybody successfully gotten two bonding devices to work on debian etch with or without the etchnhalf 2.6.24 kernel? |
| 02:05.55 | infinitycircuit | is debian.org down at the moment? |
| 02:06.08 | infinitycircuit | i find people.debian.org, smtp.debian.org, and debian.org to all be non-functional |
| 02:06.24 | Gnurdux | yep its down |
| 02:06.42 | infinitycircuit | it just came back up |
| 02:07.30 | Lycurgus | should I be able to add debian unstable to my sources.list and use apt-get succesfully? |
| 02:07.36 | Lycurgus | *my |
| 02:07.50 | infinitycircuit | Lycurgus: are you are on lenny right now or on etch? |
| 02:07.56 | Lycurgus | etch |
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| 02:08.54 | Lycurgus | or should I only handle unstable packages individually and manually? |
| 02:09.09 | infinitycircuit | etch + unstable don't mix very well |
| 02:09.36 | Lycurgus | well it's openjdk |
| 02:09.46 | infinitycircuit | if you need unstable packages but don't want to run sid, your best bets are either (1) use dget to fetch sid sources and try building it on etch, or (2) use lenny and run a mixed testing/unstable system |
| 02:10.04 | Lycurgus | dget is new to me |
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| 02:12.52 | infinitycircuit | Lycurgus: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=26292&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15 has a quick explanation |
| 02:15.44 | Lycurgus | working ... |
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| 02:19.33 | Lycurgus | yes, that works nicely, thanks. |
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| 02:25.53 | tubbybastard | why wouldn't "netstat -ln" show apache when its serving pages normally? |
| 02:28.46 | newsense | netstat -ta ? |
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| 02:29.40 | tubbybastard | newsense, thank you, stupid n00b not RTFMing |
| 02:29.48 | newsense | np |
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| 02:30.48 | Flinx | Strange... I can log in from this machine but not from work. |
| 02:30.51 | Flinx | Oh well. |
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| 02:35.16 | Baloo | OK, yeah, I'm pretty sure something is seriously wrong with my fglrx right now... the only GL program that works is fgl_glxgears, sometimes regular glxgears... |
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| 02:37.37 | Baloo | Any suggestions? |
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| 02:42.03 | Supaplex | Can anyone edit the wiki? If not, I think the common guest configs at http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Xen can be shared with http://wiki.debian.org/Xen?highlight=%28xen%29#head-2843666697f5690fb070c3d61115f45acd9754a3 |
| 02:42.48 | phs | alguem roda debian r4 xcfe4 compiz fusion |
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| 02:46.10 | Malawar | in my syslogd.conf: mail.* -/var/log/mail.log |
| 02:46.13 | Malawar | what's the dash before the path mean? |
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| 02:46.28 | Malawar | the man page talks about other prefixes but says nothing about a dash :/ |
| 02:46.35 | pickcoder | exclude IIRC |
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| 02:47.46 | pickcoder | oh |
| 02:47.48 | pickcoder | no.. |
| 02:47.59 | pickcoder | I'm thinking rsync.. :) |
| 02:48.13 | pickcoder | don't sync after each log write |
| 02:48.23 | Malawar | ah |
| 02:48.27 | pickcoder | helps with high-volume logging in regards to i/o performance |
| 02:48.56 | pickcoder | yet you can lose log entries at a crash |
| 02:49.48 | Supaplex | filesystems can cause similar issues anywah |
| 02:50.01 | pickcoder | reiserfs |
| 02:50.20 | pickcoder | oh wait.. you lose data regardless |
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| 02:50.33 | Supaplex | tmpfs is worse ;) |
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| 03:00.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | what happened to the ieee80211-source package in debian? |
| 03:02.33 | dondelelcaro | CutMeOwnThroat: it's in the kernel now |
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| 03:03.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | but I thought it was in the kernel for longer time... and ieee80211-source was for people who needed a newer version because they needed a wireless driver module of the newest version and that is usually compiled against a newer version of ieee80211? |
| 03:04.56 | dondelelcaro | CutMeOwnThroat: the ieee80211 stuff has been pretty stable for a while, so I don't know how true that is anmore |
| 03:05.16 | dondelelcaro | (stable API wise, anyway) |
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| 03:07.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | ok, maybe that's it |
| 03:07.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | was a bit astonished at seeing this: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=434477 |
| 03:08.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | not a word of why it's not needed anymore |
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| 03:25.15 | pocnytuh | he. anyone using the latest e17 packages on sid? (from alphagemini repo) |
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| 03:28.18 | newsense | nah im waiting another ten years for it to come out of beta or whatever stage its in now |
| 03:28.53 | newsense | is there a rc yet ? |
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| 03:29.42 | grendal_prime | Im going to need to send some email from a php server...whats the safest way to do this? |
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| 03:30.18 | grendal_prime | hey guys..im going to need to send some email from a php server. Whats the safest way to do this..? |
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| 03:30.58 | grendal_prime | I mean my understanding is that i need an mta up and working..wich..i was going to use exim4 for that (its on a debian system) |
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| 03:32.25 | pickcoder | grendal_prime: use the mail functions in PHP |
| 03:32.58 | grendal_prime | ya i tried that but i didnt get anything threw |
| 03:33.26 | newsense | i use exim |
| 03:33.45 | newsense | no php server here though sorry |
| 03:34.42 | newsense | use exim for local delivery and remote mails sent through my isp's smtp server |
| 03:34.52 | newsense | nothing fancy |
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| 03:38.14 | grendal_prime | pickcoder: what do i need to look at to make sure the mail functions are enabled? |
| 03:38.56 | grendal_prime | I have stuff that uses the mail function working on other servers...but i think they are pointed at an exchange server. |
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| 03:39.43 | grendal_prime | Is it possible to just like send an email directly to an my yahoo account from my localhost? |
| 03:39.48 | ben1597 | I'm having troubles with an openssh installation (lenny) |
| 03:40.13 | ben1597 | can anyone offer some suggestions to explain why the machine will only sometimes accept connections? |
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| 03:43.00 | ben1597 | connecting remotely to the machine usually results in a "connection refused" response from the server. |
| 03:43.57 | ben1597 | this isn't consistent, however; because occasionally remote hosts are able to connect. |
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| 03:44.26 | ben1597 | all machines are on the same subnet and the server does not have any iptables rules |
| 03:46.21 | ben1597 | I have tried setting UseDNS to 'off' in sshd_config to eliminate dns from the picture, but the behavior remains the same. |
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| 03:47.12 | Intensity | Hi. I've installed etch.5 (2.6.24 kernel) on a USB drive, using dm-crypt root filesystem encryption. However, the /dev/sd[a-z] device nodes were renumbered, so it is looking for sdb_crypt rather than determining dynamically which of the sdX's to source. Is there a standard way to accept a basic renumbering of the /dev/sd* devices and still be able to boot into encrypted root? I'd like to do this as elegantly as possible. |
| 03:47.25 | ben1597 | openssh-server is the latest version in lenny |
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| 03:48.38 | ben1597 | for good measure I ran a diff between sshd_config on the server and another server that has not had problems (they are identical) |
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| 03:49.13 | valdyn | ben1597: the error probably isnt ssh but the fact that your are trying to connect to a port with status |
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| 03:49.23 | valdyn | ben1597: "closed", i.e. no daemon listening on it |
| 03:49.29 | ben1597 | 'status'? |
| 03:49.37 | enouf | Intensity: write a udev rule |
| 03:49.43 | ben1597 | nmap shows it open sometimes and closed sometimes |
| 03:49.55 | enouf | Intensity: and/or use UUIDs or LABELs |
| 03:50.00 | valdyn | ben1597: it might not be physically the same machine each time |
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| 03:50.24 | Intensity | enouf: I've got LABELs but the root fs is encrypted. And for the udev rule, aren't they stored in /etc? (And therefore on the encrypted filesystem). |
| 03:50.26 | ben1597 | valdyn: I don't follow |
| 03:50.29 | valdyn | ben1597: dont use nmap, use netstat -plunt on the server |
| 03:50.47 | enouf | i dunno about crypto |
| 03:50.48 | Intensity | enouf: If there is a way to specify the udev rule in /boot (the only non-encrypted part) then this may work. |
| 03:50.54 | valdyn | ben1597: you are trying to connect to a computer that does not have sshd running |
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| 03:51.02 | ben1597 | I did and that did not show an ssh daemon listening |
| 03:51.06 | valdyn | ben1597: thats trivial to verify with netstat -plunt |
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| 03:51.21 | ben1597 | pgrep sshd -l does show sshd running. |
| 03:51.49 | valdyn | ben1597: yes, so why do you? is it crashing? ( dmesg would probably know ) |
| 03:51.58 | enouf | Intensity: other thing might be to update your initrd/initramfs, or create a custom one - that's all i can think of - or, it's your BIOS boot order and grub device.map file |
| 03:51.58 | mpsan | Does anyone know of a debian pendrivelinux install? I do not see it on the pendrivelinux site? |
| 03:52.14 | Intensity | enouf: But apart from crypto, I'd have the same questions about being able to get the root filesystem mounted. If the udev rules are read from /etc, then that's presumably after the root filesystem has been mounted. |
| 03:52.27 | valdyn | Intensity: no |
| 03:52.43 | valdyn | Intensity: you have an initrd |
| 03:52.53 | valdyn | !initrd |
| 03:52.53 | dpkg | initrd is, like, initial root disk. initial RAM disk, or god's way of punishing you for using a prebuilt kernel image, or ...And you WILL HAVE TO INCLUDE AN INITRD STATEMENT IN YOUR BOOTLOADER (hint, hint). Typically if you can't find your root filesystem, this is your problem. or a great system for those who understand modulesneed/want root in lvm and/or md raid. http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1476230, or make-kpkg --initrd |
| 03:52.56 | Intensity | enouf: Perhaps instead of having dm-crypt look for /dev/sdb as a static choice, it could accept some way to look for another /dev/sdX dynamically, through a label... |
| 03:53.17 | peterS | ben1597: is it possible that you have somehow managed to run ssh from inetd? this is not a default configuration by any means |
| 03:53.20 | ben1597 | dmesg confirms it binding to a port (depending on what I've set as ListenAddress) |
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| 03:53.34 | enouf | haha @ " god's way of punishing you for using a prebuilt kernel image" |
| 03:53.34 | Intensity | valdyn: Ok, so in the initrd recreation phase, it would look under the current data in /etc/udev and write it to the initrd. |
| 03:53.35 | ben1597 | ssh localhost will _always_ connect when I'm sitting at the server machine |
| 03:53.45 | valdyn | Intensity: yes |
| 03:54.00 | peterS | ben1597: wait ... dmesg shouldn't mention ssh at all, that's kernel logs, binding to a port doesn't end up in kernel logs. (unless you're doing some rather odd things) |
| 03:54.04 | ben1597 | peterS: I have not added sshd to inetd.conf |
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| 03:54.15 | ben1597 | peterS: sorry; auth.log |
| 03:54.19 | ampex | anyone know how to view the socket options on an open connection? |
| 03:54.20 | peterS | ahh. |
| 03:54.25 | ben1597 | I set debug |
| 03:54.27 | ampex | I'm looking to see whether a connection was opened with TCP_NODELAY |
| 03:54.59 | peterS | ampex: none that I know of - except to attach with gdb and take control and call getsockopt or whatever |
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| 03:56.02 | Intensity | valdyn: Okay, so is this best done through a udev rule? Or labelling? Also, I can't explain why I need to use Super Grub Disk to actually get to grub. My intention was to create a portable USB Debian Etch boot that I could relocate to several hosts. Even though grub supposedly installed properly onto the USB device, when I boot from USB, it just hangs. It was only through using SGD that I got as far as booting (whence I came across |
| 03:56.03 | Intensity | the /dev/sdb mismatch problem). |
| 03:56.03 | Intensity | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:56.21 | peterS | ben1597: I would verify, even if you are already sure, that the remote client is seeing the right server. you say it's on the same subnet, so 'sudo arp -a' should tell you what MAC addr the client thinks your server is |
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| 03:57.10 | sguo | what is etchnhalf? any difference compare to normal iso ? |
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| 03:57.33 | peterS | sguo: etch-and-a-half is etch with some newer hardware drivers - including a newer kernel (2.6.24 instead of 2.6.18 for classic etch) |
| 03:57.55 | sguo | ic, thanks |
| 03:58.08 | enouf | Intensity: several hosts have several hardware - a livecd is best suited for that type of environment, or build an initrd that loads every module in existance (or recompile a huge huge kernel :-)) - have you seen #debian-live ? |
| 03:58.36 | enouf | whoa |
| 03:59.10 | enouf | !ops PM spam from Tom_Brandstater was n=n@c-75-69-230-206.hsd1.ma.comcast.net (n) |
| 03:59.10 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: enouf complains about: PM spam from Tom_Brandstater was n=n@c-75-69-230-206.hsd1.ma.comcast.net (n) |
| 03:59.23 | peterS | enouf: what are we supposed to do about it? |
| 03:59.36 | enouf | Ignoring *!*@c-75-69-230-206.hsd1.ma.comcast.net ... what a relief! |
| 03:59.41 | newsense | how can i flush cached dns entries ? |
| 03:59.48 | enouf | tell #freenode about it |
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| 03:59.55 | enouf | er staff |
| 03:59.56 | Intensity | enouf: It doesn't need to be *that* portable... As long as I get it to boot into the root filesystem, I'm okay with that. I just need it to work starting with the couple of laptops I have -- starting with the one I supposedly successfully installed it on! Perhaps #debian-live might know about the issues that are involved in creating a live USB. |
| 04:00.03 | newsense | somehow when i ping debian.org it goes to a comcast ip |
| 04:00.28 | peterS | newsense: depends how they are cached. if you're running nscd, I advise just uninstalling nscd. if you have a local nameserver, it depends which one |
| 04:00.52 | newsense | no local nameserver |
| 04:00.57 | peterS | if the caching is happening upstream of you (your ISP's name servers), there isn't much you can do other than to stop using those name servers |
| 04:01.43 | peterS | you can temporarily use 4.2.2.1 as a name server, if I remember correctly |
| 04:01.50 | newsense | peterS: thanks ill look into alternative nameservers |
| 04:02.02 | newsense | cool thanks |
| 04:02.14 | newsense | thought there was something wrong for a second |
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| 04:02.27 | Dave_ | hi |
| 04:02.29 | Dave_ | I need help |
| 04:02.36 | Dave_ | I can't install pidgin |
| 04:02.48 | peterS | if you're on debian 4.0 (etch), pidgin is spelled "gaim" |
| 04:02.59 | MaliutaLap | Dave_: use apt-get install or aptitude install |
| 04:03.29 | Dave_ | ok lemme try |
| 04:04.04 | Dave_ | btw how do I setup dual monitor? |
| 04:04.27 | ben1597 | that's odd. I see two different MAC addresses between three different clients |
| 04:04.53 | peterS | ben1597: your switches are playing tricks on you then? |
| 04:05.01 | MaliutaLap | Dave_: edit your xorg.conf, there are a billion examples on the intarwebs |
| 04:05.06 | Dave_ | are there nvidia drivers for debian? |
| 04:05.25 | Dave_ | MaliutaLap: i always mess up xorg.. :( |
| 04:05.25 | enouf | peterS: done, banned - thanks - i guess everytime one gets PM spam they MUST /join #freenode and let them know - ok , well /ig works for me - so be it |
| 04:05.42 | ben1597 | it appears so. I do recognize the errant MAC as belonging to a switch that one machine is behind. |
| 04:05.45 | MaliutaLap | Dave_: special |
| 04:05.55 | Dave_ | I see |
| 04:05.57 | peterS | ben1597: question is whether that's related to your ssh troubles |
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| 04:06.14 | MaliutaLap | Dave_: you could try xrandr, but I don't know how it goes if it doesn't know all the cards |
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| 04:06.54 | KDE4000 | hi guys, i got a problem with building debian packages and GPG |
| 04:07.09 | cospag | live cd's really work you cdrom, anybody ever use it longer than a week? |
| 04:07.32 | KDE4000 | i imported my secret key, but dpkg says it cant find it to build my package |
| 04:07.35 | ben1597 | I'd say that its a definitive no. the MAC of the two machines physically connected to the same switch match what the server says it's mac is |
| 04:07.56 | infinitycircuit | KDE4000: did you export GPGKEY=your-key |
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| 04:08.13 | peterS | ben1597: and those two machines still can't reliably connect to sshd? |
| 04:08.23 | ben1597 | the other server that I've used as a standard for comparing sshd configs is adjacent to it on the same switch and is reachable by the machine behind the second switch. |
| 04:08.28 | Dave_ | ok lemme try tat |
| 04:08.36 | ben1597 | none of the three clients are able to reliably connect. |
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| 04:09.02 | KDE4000 | dpkg-buildpackage -d --keyid=mykeyid |
| 04:09.03 | KDE4000 | i did that |
| 04:10.02 | peterS | KDE4000: I don't see '--keyid' documented. what I do see is '-k'. as in, '-kmykeyid' |
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| 04:11.00 | tython | hi |
| 04:11.15 | tython | I am sure my webcam is working. |
| 04:11.22 | KDE4000 | peterS: LOL, i think i made a typo !!! |
| 04:11.26 | KDE4000 | !!! |
| 04:11.26 | dpkg | I'm not your csh prompt! |
| 04:11.32 | KDE4000 | lol @ dpkg |
| 04:11.35 | tython | I saw the video with this command gst-launch-0.10 v4l2src ! jpegdec ! xvimagesink |
| 04:11.37 | Dave_ | MaliutaLap: it doesn't detec my other monitor |
| 04:12.10 | KDE4000 | peterS: ok, it worked, i must have been falling alseep :D thanks |
| 04:12.13 | peterS | heh |
| 04:12.37 | tython | But I don't know how to set the jpegdec pipeline in the "Multimedia Systems Selector" |
| 04:12.40 | peterS | if you like dpkg's response to !!!, you should try !!!!! some time. if I remember correctly, you are rewarded with a Terry Pratchett quote |
| 04:13.41 | KDE4000 | !!!!! |
| 04:13.41 | dpkg | "Multiple exclamation marks," he went on, shaking his head, "are a sure sign of a diseased mind." - Terry Pratchett, Eric |
| 04:13.46 | KDE4000 | LOL |
| 04:14.22 | peterS | I think I prefer [urinating dog], from Interesting Times |
| 04:16.04 | Dave_ | how do i detect other monitors connected? |
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| 04:19.50 | acu | I run Debian Lenny AMD64 and I have an Nvidia GForce 7000(something) - I have 2.6.25.2 kernel - after I compile the file from Nvidia.com and startx (while root) I can get into Xwindow fine - but when I reboot - the system hangs when X starts again - why is that - how can I fix it ? |
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| 04:21.25 | pickcoder | acu: the module isn't loading at boot? |
| 04:21.30 | n-iCe | Anyone can give me a hand with my video card drivers, Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller , please |
| 04:21.40 | infinitycircuit | acu: that is the built in mobo graphics, right? |
| 04:21.45 | infinitycircuit | do you have > 4 gigs of ram? |
| 04:22.04 | acu | infi: yes built in (is a laptop) I have 2 Gigs ram |
| 04:22.37 | infinitycircuit | do you have the latest bios updates? i experienced a problem similar to yours and was forced to ditch the mobo on a desktop |
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| 04:24.06 | acu | very strangely - once after compiling it - I got in xwindow as root and got to the nvidia gui configuaration - and there the memory was mention to be 500mb but I know the VGA card shares with the main memory and in the BIOS i have only 124 MB maximum choice - I wonder when I reboot somehow it reads wrong - or what is going on |
| 04:24.14 | Dave_ | hi im getting an error that im not in the sudoers file. how do i fix this? |
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| 04:25.37 | cospag | when is Linux gonna make Microsoft bankrupt and selling shoes again, that is the day I am waiting for. I will leave my house once again on that day |
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| 04:26.04 | cospag | Bill Gates is a son of shoe mender |
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| 04:26.22 | Dave_ | ugh antyone?.. :( |
| 04:26.33 | pickcoder | Dave_: man sudoers |
| 04:26.47 | cospag | sudo, hmmm, I think that for ubunto people |
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| 04:28.00 | cospag | n-iCe, whats happening with you driver for video? |
| 04:28.02 | acu | Dave_ I encounter this in Etch long before but I forgot how I fixed it - is something with gtk or something - update your system first and reboot |
| 04:28.04 | n-iCe | Please help to install this driver card, Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller |
| 04:28.12 | n-iCe | cospag: Well I just can't play games, are to slow, etc |
| 04:28.58 | Dave_ | hmm |
| 04:29.06 | cospag | n-iCe, oh, what games? Do you know about dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and then it find your driver auto. otherwise, if you have slow card-how much memory? |
| 04:29.53 | cospag | n-iCe, I tried some nice 3D-Car Racing game, and it was slow full screen, so I have to play it in small zoom, then it works ok |
| 04:30.00 | n-iCe | cospag: my pc is ok, 2 gigs, intel core 2 duo, if I do that, all my xorg.conf will be lost and I won't have a good resolution again, it took time to get all work in xorg |
| 04:30.37 | n-iCe | if you want i can try again, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 04:31.16 | cospag | n-iCe, oh, well, if video is working, then its fine. You don't need to change driver anyway. But just for your knowledge, when I wanna do that, I just backup the custom, and make a new one with dpkg-reconfigure, and then look at the two files to make changes and make a new custom |
| 04:31.52 | n-iCe | cospag: oh, wha should I do then? |
| 04:32.40 | cospag | n-iCe, no if it working, and you can use X, I thought maybe that was your problem. But if video is slow, its hardware issue, is it an expensive card you got, some cost $600, maybe you should try that, but its better to get Play Station maybe |
| 04:33.03 | Dave_ | acu my system is up to date.. |
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| 04:33.32 | cospag | n-iCe, did you try that 3D tron game on Linux, hehe, its pretty cool, just apt-cache search 3d game, lots of cool ones, some don't run so fast cause my video card isn't so great either. What game are you trying to play? |
| 04:33.43 | ben1597 | peterS: solved; the seemingly innocuous switch that one machine was behind was actually a router I had set to act only as a switch. _it_ had been intermittently claiming the same ip as the server. |
| 04:34.08 | ben1597 | (and messing up the arp tables on the network) |
| 04:34.19 | peterS | ben1597: hence the mac address "spoofing". nice to know the arp weirdness was related after all, if not the way I might have thought (: |
| 04:34.33 | cospag | ben1597, man...you into some high tech shit over there, is this for your home? |
| 04:34.34 | n-iCe | cospag: my card is awesome |
| 04:34.41 | KDE4000 | !say debian is cool |
| 04:34.41 | dpkg | debian is cool |
| 04:34.44 | n-iCe | warzone 2100 |
| 04:34.49 | ben1597 | just the home network. |
| 04:35.01 | cospag | n-iCe, hmmm, maybe you better check intel and see if they have a proprietary driver then |
| 04:35.05 | ben1597 | openafs is cool. you should all check it out. |
| 04:35.25 | peterS | does openafs have read-write yet? last I heard they were in a perpetual state of 'read-only for now, and oh yeah, it's kinda beta' |
| 04:35.40 | ben1597 | hrm?! |
| 04:35.46 | Dave_ | hmm im getting a "E: Couldn't find package nvidia-settings" error |
| 04:35.47 | ben1597 | are you referring to concurrency issues? |
| 04:35.49 | cospag | n-iCe, or maybe you can try a different linux driver, cause they have the base ones, and then for the awesome cards, they make another more awesome driver. I never bought an awesome one so I don't know, but I heard of it |
| 04:35.50 | peterS | that was years ago, but then again, that was also _for years_ |
| 04:35.55 | Dave_ | this command worked on other distro |
| 04:36.24 | cospag | n-iCe, you bought that from the store? |
| 04:36.32 | ben1597 | as far as I know, openafs has a solid locking mechanism built-in. I certainly have read-write functionality. |
| 04:36.45 | peterS | goody then. I guess they finally got past that stage |
| 04:37.09 | ben1597 | it is just as accessible from windows machines as it is from linux |
| 04:37.41 | peterS | well, Windows NT borrowed a good chunk of DCE, so no surprise.. |
| 04:38.32 | cospag | n-iCe, I am gonna try and install it. It not a trojan or anything though is it? |
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| 04:40.29 | peterS | n-iCe: best advice, btw, is etch-and-a-half which comes with the 'xserver-xorg-video-intel' driver. said to be much improved over the old 'xserver-xorg-video-i810' version of the driver |
| 04:40.47 | cospag | n-iCe, it doesn't look like a game that would be difficult for even a cheap video card to run |
| 04:41.24 | peterS | so like, apt-get update, and then apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel, and you will probably have to upgrade other xorg packages somewhere in there |
| 04:41.32 | cospag | n-iCe, did you install the tar ball or the .deb package? |
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| 04:43.43 | n-iCe | thanks |
| 04:43.58 | cospag | n-iCe, seems to be working fine for me, I think my video card is standard, not any awesome $$$$ one |
| 04:44.17 | n-iCe | that's the problem |
| 04:44.19 | n-iCe | works slow for me |
| 04:44.32 | cospag | what kind of computer do you have? |
| 04:44.56 | n-iCe | http://www.intellinuxgraphics.org/man.html |
| 04:45.01 | n-iCe | im doing it |
| 04:45.01 | n-iCe | brb |
| 04:46.04 | peterS | I hope he's installing xserver-xorg-video-intel from etch 4.0r4, rather than downloading the same thing from intellinuxgraphics.org and trying to build it himself |
| 04:46.22 | cospag | peterS, hehe, he building I think |
| 04:46.42 | peterS | oh dear. and just a week or two after etch 4.0r4 was released. |
| 04:46.51 | cospag | I got 128 mb graphics, he probably has 32 |
| 04:47.07 | peterS | actually, Intel graphics are usually shared memory |
| 04:47.11 | cospag | peterS, is it way better, should I upgrade? |
| 04:47.20 | peterS | i.e., they use your system RAM, so they don't have a set amount |
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| 04:47.51 | n-iCe | nothing |
| 04:47.56 | peterS | it is better in that it supports better 3D operations, better mode switching, better monitor hotplug, etc. |
| 04:48.20 | cospag | yeah, thats cause IBM sold their hardware business to India, not they focused on small for factor. I bought it and returned it, it was so hot. Maybe it these new pentium D chips though |
| 04:48.33 | n-iCe | here is my xorg.conf, any idea? http://www.asdasdasdjhasjdhjasdasdasd.pastebin.com/m5377536e |
| 04:48.38 | cospag | peterS, that game isn't 3D though |
| 04:49.10 | cospag | n-iCe, is this the game http://wz2100.net/ ? |
| 04:49.14 | n-iCe | yes |
| 04:49.31 | peterS | n-iCe: what is the problem? does it work? |
| 04:49.36 | n-iCe | is slow |
| 04:49.51 | n-iCe | when I want it to play, video card drivers problem |
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| 04:51.29 | cospag | when did you install it, did you install using the tar ball or the deb package. I'm not sure if it make a difference, but I installed the deb package, and I have a standard vid card just 128mb, and it works ok for me, not sure when you notice it to be slow. tanks move ok, its not really a fast game itself though, how do you mean slow? |
| 04:52.00 | n-iCe | the .deb |
| 04:52.10 | n-iCe | :/ |
| 04:52.16 | n-iCe | is slow, is , slow |
| 04:52.33 | n-iCe | is a driver problem, i will search for more, thanks anyway |
| 04:53.01 | cospag | n-iCe, if X works fine, then your driver is fine, cause that game doesn't need anything more than X working |
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| 04:55.27 | hchx | exit |
| 04:55.28 | hchx | quit |
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| 04:58.26 | woodgrain | When I open stuff like GEDIT I get some CORBA message. I think I deleted something. |
| 04:59.04 | cospag | woodgrain, whats the message? |
| 04:59.46 | woodgrain | cospag, it says I'm a doofer for deleting that file (which I can't find). |
| 05:00.17 | peterS | sounds like it's a spitting corba |
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| 05:02.05 | woodgrain | cospag, pasted to: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
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| 05:03.24 | woodgrain | cospag, it gives me this msg every time I try to open/save a file in gedit. confused. |
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| 05:08.24 | se7en_ | does cups have to be started at boot if i have no printer anyway ... all i need sometimes is print to pdf and that has nothing to do with cups does it? |
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| 05:09.21 | woodgrain | where is TRASH for root? |
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| 05:13.17 | newsense | maybe /dev/null ? |
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| 05:14.33 | mmlj4 | trash? you mean like a recycle bin? |
| 05:15.11 | newsense | not running root as x are ya ? |
| 05:15.18 | newsense | err x as root lol |
| 05:15.20 | mmlj4 | i think trash for root is /usr/bin/php |
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| 05:15.28 | newsense | lol |
| 05:15.37 | mmlj4 | run X as root? i'm not that foolhardy |
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| 05:18.41 | woodgrain | cospag, I fixed it. thanks. |
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| 05:20.22 | GillaGal | I'm having troubles with ProFTP. Keep getting a "Connection established, waiting for welcome message..." and nothing happens. Any idea's why? |
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| 05:25.19 | PhrkOnLsh | Is it possible for wpa_supplicant to manage WEP networks alongside WPA? I read the man page but it doesn't make any reference to it, and passing WEP as a key_mgmt causes an error |
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| 05:42.17 | PiousMinion | I'm trying to pass commandline options to a program opened up in my terminal emulator, but the term keeps thinking I'm passing the options to it. e.g. gnome-terminal -e ssh -g -L xx:xx:xx host -p port Ideas? |
| 05:43.14 | PhrkOnLsh | http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-mobile/2005-October/007116.html <-- WEP and WPA_Supplicant |
| 05:43.15 | PiousMinion | error is: Unknown option -g |
| 05:43.37 | PhrkOnLsh | quotes, PiousMinion ? |
| 05:43.51 | PhrkOnLsh | just a guess, I'm outta here :) |
| 05:44.00 | PiousMinion | PhrkOnLsh: that is what I thought at first too, but providing quote gives me an empty terminal. |
| 05:44.07 | kmeyer | PiousMinion: use '--' to seperate options to the first from options to the second |
| 05:44.11 | cospag | woodgrain, cool, sorry I left for a bit |
| 05:44.23 | kmeyer | i.e. gnome-terminal -e -- ssh -g -L xx:xx:xx host -p port |
| 05:44.32 | kmeyer | or somesuch |
| 05:44.38 | PiousMinion | kmeyer: ahh, thanks |
| 05:44.50 | kmeyer | usually that works |
| 05:44.58 | kmeyer | may or may not depending on the particular program |
| 05:45.00 | kmeyer | good luck :) |
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| 05:48.10 | PiousMinion | kmeyer: can't figure it out. :P |
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| 05:51.05 | kmeyer | PiousMinion: sorry, no idea then :D |
| 05:51.18 | PiousMinion | I swear, the 'default' apps that are part of gnome are utter crap compared to the alternatives. |
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| 05:51.53 | PiousMinion | e.g. the screenaver selector in gnome, gnome-terminal |
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| 05:52.26 | kmeyer | I rather like gnome-terminal actually |
| 05:52.39 | kmeyer | sometimes xfce's Terminal is quicker |
| 05:53.01 | joeyadams | Anyone happen to know where the legacy debian repository is? I want to install woody packages on my Power Macintosh 6100 for which there is no working 2.6 kernel. |
| 05:53.13 | PiousMinion | my problem isn't a problem for every terminal other than gnome-terminal. :/ |
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| 05:56.38 | DawnLigh1 | joeyadams: using old software is insecure |
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| 05:58.00 | joeyadams | <DawnLigh1> joeyadams: using old software is insecure ==> I don't have a choice on this machine :P |
| 05:58.14 | joeyadams | Is Mac OS 7.6 better? :P </sarcasm> |
| 06:00.42 | DawnLigh1 | joeyadams: perhaps you can get a different machine? |
| 06:01.32 | joeyadams | I kind of want to get rid of the one I'm installing on :) I just want to get a real OS on there before I do :) |
| 06:01.34 | DawnLigh1 | recycle that thing |
| 06:01.40 | joeyadams | I do have better computers |
| 06:03.01 | DawnLigh1 | !tell joeyadams about archive |
| 06:03.22 | DawnLigh1 | i think that this is it. but don't waste your time... |
| 06:04.39 | joeyadams | That's about archiving files |
| 06:04.47 | joeyadams | oh, nevermind :D |
| 06:05.26 | kmeyer | joeyadams: whoah, you're here too? |
| 06:05.52 | joeyadams | yup |
| 06:06.16 | DawnLigh1 | everyone's here! |
| 06:07.26 | acu | I am as root on a console how can I log off without exit - I want to log on as normal user then startx |
| 06:07.51 | peterS | acu: simple thing, switch to another console. alt-f1 through alt-f6. |
| 06:08.08 | kmeyer | DawnLigh1: we're on another network too :D |
| 06:09.16 | acu | peterS: I am not on X |
| 06:09.27 | acu | i have only the prompt |
| 06:09.32 | peterS | acu: I know. just switch to another console. alt-f1 through alt-f6. |
| 06:09.34 | DawnLigh1 | acu: just press alt-f2 |
| 06:10.23 | DawnLigh1 | debian is da smart itz haz multitazkin' |
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| 06:11.15 | acu | the screen is blank |
| 06:11.18 | acu | now |
| 06:11.26 | DawnLigh1 | it is blank? |
| 06:11.34 | DawnLigh1 | no login screen there? |
| 06:11.43 | DawnLigh1 | are you sure you're using debian? |
| 06:12.04 | acu | I am trying to make NVIDIA VGA work with Lenny I recompile their drivers and with the newer kernel is complete waste of time |
| 06:12.20 | acu | it hangs anytime I try to go on xwindow |
| 06:12.26 | acu | now I am stuck |
| 06:12.31 | DawnLigh1 | nvidia is a WOT |
| 06:13.07 | acu | what is WOT ? |
| 06:13.14 | DawnLigh1 | waste of time |
| 06:13.20 | acu | you tell me |
| 06:14.01 | DawnLigh1 | anyway, you should still get the tty1 through 6 by default |
| 06:14.15 | acu | but the Debian desktop is far from being ready - almost evrything has to be configured manually = that's descouraging :) |
| 06:14.25 | acu | or maybe that's the whole scheme ? |
| 06:14.43 | DawnLigh1 | try to install/dpkg-reconfigure console-tools |
| 06:15.15 | acu | dawn - OK that may help - however I am exiting now |
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| 06:16.05 | acu | I have tons of annoying things - if you choose to have as file server why netatalk is installed - my God what a waste of time - everythim is booting |
| 06:16.15 | DawnLigh1 | debian i for people who know how to use debian |
| 06:16.42 | acu | Dawnligh1: indeed |
| 06:16.56 | DawnLigh1 | desktop users; end users should get their system set up by a debian user |
| 06:17.10 | DawnLigh1 | either that or learn debian |
| 06:17.18 | acu | exactly |
| 06:17.30 | acu | is any company who does that ? |
| 06:17.51 | DawnLigh1 | people make a living off that |
| 06:18.10 | acu | can you point me to someone who can do that ? |
| 06:18.25 | DawnLigh1 | mostly for companies, though |
| 06:18.42 | Supaplex | so wth, Retrieving bug reports... 0% |
| 06:18.43 | acu | OK, I understand - can you tell me who is doing this ? |
| 06:18.58 | Supaplex | stabby stab stabs aptitude |
| 06:19.14 | DawnLigh1 | i'll look up... |
| 06:20.37 | acu | Dawn: that's fine - do not waste time - I will google - however is extremly frustrating - I have a wifi card which shuts off every 10 minutes - the Nvidia VGA card does not work and the build in HP webcam does not work - I would pay if someone can fix them fast - I have no time to waste |
| 06:21.15 | DawnLigh1 | acu: look in debian.org. post in the debian-user or debian-jobs lists |
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| 06:22.45 | jescis | can gpart be installed without X11(in other words does gpart depend on X11)? |
| 06:23.28 | Supaplex | jescis: apt-cache show gpart |
| 06:23.53 | Supaplex | assuming gpart is the package in question. |
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| 06:25.38 | jescis | Supaplex, it is. I was in aptitude and saw x11 listed and wondered about it. as I don't want to install X or anything that requires it :/ |
| 06:25.59 | Supaplex | look for an alternative |
| 06:26.02 | Supaplex | !tell jescis -about search |
| 06:26.55 | mimcpher | jescis, check out "parted" (without the g) for a non-graphical disk partitioning tool. |
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| 06:28.20 | jescis | mimcpher, thanks |
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| 06:35.37 | DawnLigh1 | bye bye |
| 06:36.21 | douji | hi, i have iptables installed on my debian system, but i don't seem to have /etc/init.d/iptables, do i have to restart iptables for changes to it to have effect? |
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| 06:38.18 | Supaplex | douji: iptables changes are live. iptables-save and iptables-restore are how you save/restore your rule sets. the init script was removed from debian a long time ago. |
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| 06:39.38 | douji | Supaplex: thanks! i just got started in this system setup stuff, lots of reading :D |
| 06:41.01 | Supaplex | !markel |
| 06:41.16 | Supaplex | is merkel.debian.org down? |
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| 06:43.19 | Spirit_ | when i type dmesg there is no response at all, what could be wrong? |
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| 06:47.17 | zxxd | what's the usual backup recovery technique from a corrupted ext3 FS ? when should i use a backup superblock? |
| 06:47.54 | Supaplex | the metadata isn't nearly as important as the files on your filesystem. |
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| 06:49.28 | Supaplex | so wtf... |
| 06:49.37 | Supaplex | bashes tftps' brains in |
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| 06:52.21 | zxxd | Supaplex: yes exactly , but how can i rebuild the metadata from the data on the disk |
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| 06:54.38 | Supaplex | no idea. apropos ext2 |
| 06:54.44 | zxxd | apropos > |
| 06:54.46 | zxxd | ? |
| 06:54.50 | Supaplex | run it |
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| 06:54.52 | Supaplex | !apropos |
| 06:55.13 | Supaplex | dpkg: apropos is <reply>apropos (1) - search the manual page names and descriptions |
| 06:55.13 | dpkg | ...but apropos is already something else... |
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| 06:57.38 | simonrvn | dpkg: shaddup |
| 06:57.38 | dpkg | fine, be that way! |
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| 06:59.55 | wyze | is openvpn broken in Lenny? |
| 07:00.29 | Supaplex | wyze: what's bts say? |
| 07:00.49 | wyze | i dont follow u.. |
| 07:00.56 | Supaplex | !u |
| 07:00.56 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 07:01.06 | Supaplex | !tell wyze -about bts |
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| 07:01.38 | vaq | !bts |
| 07:01.38 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. Useful for unstable and testing: aptitude install apt-listbugs <apt-listchanges> . |
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| 07:13.07 | pogay | I like to make a CD and Floppy bootable, which displays available USB drives where I can boot from. I'm searching for a suitable Tool/Bootmanager. |
| 07:14.30 | pogay | at least it has to find hds which have installed grub. |
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| 07:17.21 | vlt | Hello. I got some strange errors on my Debian Etch router/firewall. I made some test downloads and the resulting file has errors, different errors every time. I pasted an example here: http://paste.debian.net/14119/ The error is ALWAYS in the MSB of the 4th Byte of an "eight byte group" (4E->CE, B1->31, 60->E0, D0->50, DC->5C, 04->84, FA->7A, 02->82 ...). I already replaced the NIC and finally the complete machine. Any idea what to check next? |
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| 07:20.18 | vlt | The TCP/IP transfer is over ppp0, a PPPoE DSL line. |
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| 07:20.40 | tarzeau | how can i dump a berkeley db? |
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| 07:22.57 | simonrvn | vlt: check cabling, modem, upstream, everything. |
| 07:23.17 | simonrvn | tarzeau: using the bdb_* tools for the version the bdb files are |
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| 07:24.34 | tarzeau | simonrvn: in what package do i find it? |
| 07:24.47 | tarzeau | simonrvn: this db file i have is a version 1.85 bdb |
| 07:24.51 | tarzeau | err version 2 |
| 07:25.14 | simonrvn | db*-util |
| 07:25.29 | simonrvn | that'll probably be db-util |
| 07:25.35 | simonrvn | or db2 |
| 07:25.35 | tarzeau | simonrvn: i can't find a db2_dump |
| 07:25.46 | simonrvn | <tab> it |
| 07:25.47 | tarzeau | simonrvn: there's db3_dump though, oh wait maybe db3_dump185 |
| 07:25.59 | simonrvn | yeh, that'll be it |
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| 07:27.20 | tarzeau | simonrvn: no manpage to it and db3_dump185 my.db says db_dump185: my.db: Invalid argument |
| 07:27.36 | simonrvn | meh |
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| 07:27.52 | simonrvn | the docs are on their site |
| 07:27.55 | vaq | tarzeau: tried googling for a moment? |
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| 07:28.00 | tarzeau | vaq: yes |
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| 07:32.37 | arooni | i have 1250 (opt-in) email addresses in a mysql database. i need to send them one email (and possibly more in the future)... what's the best way of going about this? |
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| 07:33.22 | sep | arooni, and you have no patience no need to spam ALL irc channels with the same question, answer still the same: use a mailinglist tool, or write a script yourself |
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| 07:40.05 | wyze | openvpn server on debian ftl |
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| 07:40.15 | Lycurgus | anybody run openjdk on etch? |
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| 07:41.01 | Dreamlinux | hi! |
| 07:41.10 | evildarknight | hi |
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| 07:41.26 | Dreamlinux | I need a little help jeje |
| 07:41.33 | pietro_rc | Everytime I run screen, my backspace stops working. Is this normal behavior for screen? |
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| 07:41.56 | rgl | hi. |
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| 07:42.10 | rgl | will lenny use upstart? |
| 07:42.57 | cusco_vacant | it doesn't now |
| 07:43.07 | cusco_vacant | don't know about the future |
| 07:43.24 | cusco_vacant | pietro_rc: check if it is deleting forwards |
| 07:44.40 | pietro_rc | you mean using the del key? If yes. that's working alright. |
| 07:44.59 | sep | rgl, it will probably be available as an option, for you to use if you wish. there is package in experimental if you want to play with it allready, |
| 07:45.18 | rgl | ah, thx :-) |
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| 07:47.22 | rikva | Hi, any installer experts here? I compiled a custom kernel for the netboot installer, it boots fine, however the installer complains about a version mismatch and is unable to load kernel modules. Any idea what I did wrong? |
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| 07:48.10 | jescis | !tell rgl about thx |
| 07:48.14 | Dreamlinux | Don't Drink The Water - - Dave Matthews Band (x«amarok) |
| 07:48.18 | ZENA | not tell you how i should judge |
| 07:48.23 | simonrvn | not using your modules for the installer. d-i fetched kernel modules for the kernel it boots from |
| 07:48.31 | Dark_Titan | !tell Dark_Titan about thx |
| 07:48.33 | Dark_Titan | hmm |
| 07:48.35 | simonrvn | Dreamlinux: turn that off please |
| 07:48.36 | rgl | jescis, ahaha |
| 07:48.46 | rgl | jescis, so you guys don't like contractions? |
| 07:48.49 | simonrvn | !tell Dark_Titan -about msg the bot |
| 07:48.51 | ZENA | the rgl male was who she'll have no power left |
| 07:49.00 | ZENA | are crazy ! it's escort, be you take care of parvati system modules have to fight a war with their arches, and was hovering above the entrance of st |
| 07:49.06 | ZENA | one bot in here, herman said, horrified at the edge of a passed loved |
| 07:49.12 | ZENA | once more advanced guys live a thousand rgl away, shouldn't you like this ?'she went on, holding up one finger |
| 07:49.23 | Dark_Titan | simonrvn: I had no idea who the bot was |
| 07:49.26 | Dark_Titan | and what it does |
| 07:49.33 | ZENA | hey bot what are my least favorite word |
| 07:49.36 | ZENA | his location does not question my vision |
| 07:49.40 | simonrvn | ZENA: shut up. thanks. |
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| 07:50.05 | ZENA | also shut up ! ah, so maybe a seed colony are first wave, then, you would think to take my head off with five |
| 07:50.13 | Dreamlinux | Grey Street - - Dave Matthews Band (x«amarok) |
| 07:50.16 | simonrvn | !ops ZENA spamming nonsense |
| 07:50.16 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: simonrvn complains about: ZENA spamming nonsense |
| 07:50.17 | jescis | rgl, I didn't put that into the bot. But things like u, thx and others are more akin too being an aim user |
| 07:50.20 | rikva | simonrvn: Is that a problem - what are those modules? |
| 07:50.23 | ZENA | old'user'name |
| 07:50.25 | ZENA | are nonsense, kynes ? |
| 07:50.30 | jescis | to* |
| 07:50.53 | rgl | hehe ok ok :) |
| 07:50.56 | Gary | ZENA: can you troll another network pls |
| 07:50.58 | ZENA | ) any trap that causes damage of the soldiers are silent and still pick up a staircase |
| 07:51.31 | ZENA | the troll see |
| 07:51.39 | Dreamlinux | simonrvn: hi.. why? |
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| 07:51.45 | ZENA | hey, dennis nedry yawned |
| 07:51.57 | simonrvn | Dreamlinux: because it's annoying |
| 07:52.06 | ZENA | forward cargo modules so the nigerian are visited by his arm and started to reach you before, it isn't want power, i just wanted a good character, but in that instant |
| 07:52.42 | cusco_vacant | I haven't figured it out why do they come in here trolling |
| 07:52.49 | cusco_vacant | what is the pleasure? |
| 07:53.05 | simonrvn | it's a bot. a megahal i bet |
| 07:53.22 | cusco_vacant | oh |
| 07:53.24 | ZENA | a bot |
| 07:53.32 | ZENA | and annoying, so it was, into the supply position carefully, kynes said |
| 07:53.50 | *** mode/#debian [+o Gary] by ChanServ |
| 07:53.53 | simonrvn | i suggest an /ignore for it |
| 07:53.55 | *** mode/#debian [+b %ZENA!*@*] by Gary |
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| 07:54.02 | simonrvn | oh, nm. thanks :) |
| 07:54.54 | Dreamlinux | simonrvn ok.. but... because you don like this banda or that is only annoying |
| 07:55.11 | Dreamlinux | ?? |
| 07:55.21 | Dreamlinux | Crash Into Me - - Dave Matthews Band (x«amarok) |
| 07:55.22 | simonrvn | because it's annoying. and not just for me. |
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| 07:55.28 | Dreamlinux | ok |
| 07:55.30 | simonrvn | ... |
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| 07:57.07 | Gary | Dreamlinux: many channels do not like people posting now playing scripts/info |
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| 07:57.48 | arooni | is mailman in the repos? |
| 07:58.03 | Dreamlinux | dont worry.. no more musica her :) |
| 07:58.08 | Dreamlinux | music* |
| 07:58.16 | Dreamlinux | here* |
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| 07:58.33 | simonrvn | yes |
| 07:59.06 | simonrvn | !tell arooni -about search |
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| 08:00.04 | Dreamlinux | Rosegarden is a pretty nice program.. I like it. :) |
| 08:01.19 | Dreamlinux | any experience with the program? |
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| 08:04.51 | rikva | Where can I get the (u)debs of the debian Netboot installer? |
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| 08:05.06 | rikva | Or source in some other format |
| 08:05.19 | tarzeau | rikva: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
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| 08:05.45 | tarzeau | or rather http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/debian-installer/ |
| 08:05.58 | Dreamlinux | finally fix the problem in my Debian.. MIDI works perfectly fine.. timidity did the magic jeje :) |
| 08:06.12 | tarzeau | Dreamlinux: midi what, replay? |
| 08:06.50 | Dreamlinux | hum? |
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| 08:07.21 | rikva | tarzeau: thanks, but I want the source of the netboot installer (or rather, the .config of the default kernel)... |
| 08:07.28 | pietro_rc | ~a |
| 08:07.28 | apt | methinks a is not b The first letter in the English alphabet! |
| 08:08.23 | Dreamlinux | I do not understand your question my estimated tarzeau! |
| 08:08.39 | tarzeau | Dreamlinux: do you play midi files or produce/record them? |
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| 08:09.30 | pogay | somebody knows in starup of gparted-Live-CD the backspace, when selecting the language? (Numlock must be set on laptop to select a Nr). |
| 08:09.39 | tarzeau | Dreamlinux: ocp(opencubicplayer) is also capable or playing midi files. do you run timidity with -intrl parameter? and know the g key? |
| 08:09.50 | Dreamlinux | aa .. ok jeje well play midi and record.. mm produce.. not much :) |
| 08:10.19 | Dreamlinux | you want see a shot of my Rosegarden in action? |
| 08:10.22 | arooni | how do i learn where mailman got installed to (especially check_perms) |
| 08:10.25 | tarzeau | Dreamlinux: could you try the "milkytracker" packaged/program for midi recording? |
| 08:10.31 | tarzeau | Dreamlinux: yes please |
| 08:10.42 | tarzeau | arooni: dpkg -L installed-package |
| 08:10.53 | Dreamlinux | just a moment my friend :) |
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| 08:12.20 | pogay | I'm looking for a nice karaoke-player with a good playlist for midi-files, where I also can select the channels. |
| 08:12.50 | pogay | for an enduser |
| 08:13.36 | pogay | may be kmid has improved in newer releases, but had no good playlist |
| 08:13.38 | tarzeau | Dreamlinux: and here's my panorama photos: http://gnu.ethz.ch/photos/panorama/ |
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| 08:14.29 | Dreamlinux | o right tarzeau ;) |
| 08:15.41 | arooni | anyone know how to fix this install problem for mailman: http://pastie.org/249041 .... (the list group exists) |
| 08:16.40 | idimmu | chown -R list /var/lib/mailman |
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| 08:16.56 | idimmu | is it saying the files are owned by root when they should be owned by list? |
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| 08:19.56 | arooni | idimmu, i think so? |
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| 08:20.04 | arooni | idimmu, don't i want to do chgrp not chown |
| 08:20.15 | idimmu | probably |
| 08:20.18 | arooni | does mailman expect list:list for user:group? |
| 08:20.21 | idimmu | bbiab going to work |
| 08:21.23 | simonrvn | this is where a good old fashioned RTFM is in order |
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| 08:22.17 | arooni | simonrvn, i'd be happy to rtfm if you'd only tell me which manual that would be. the mailman docs dont mention this niether do docs |
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| 08:22.33 | simonrvn | um, they do in fact. |
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| 08:23.17 | simonrvn | wtf else would i say "RTFM" if it wasn't in it? |
| 08:24.19 | arooni | like i said i'm happy to rtfm. i must be looking at a different manual than you: i'm here: http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-install/node9.html |
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| 08:25.54 | simonrvn | /usr/lib/mailman /usr/share/doc/mailman and many other places |
| 08:26.04 | dancor | my install cd is corrupt but only groff-base (and hence man) are failing -- can i easily make the install think that the base system step worked (since it did for all intensive purposes) |
| 08:26.35 | zxxxxd | i just noticed there is no problem mounting the same filesystem on a block device multiplie times on different mount points |
| 08:26.40 | zxxxxd | is there any problem with that? |
| 08:27.22 | OpenTokix | zxxxxd: shouldnt be, but why risk it - use symlinks instead |
| 08:27.45 | dancor | i guess i could just manually do the boot loader |
| 08:27.47 | arooni | simonrvn, you pointed me to the exact same docs i'm reading online... that talk about check permissions but dont mention what to do if debian reverts the group changes immediately after you do so |
| 08:28.35 | simonrvn | they also mention what script to run to fix it... |
| 08:28.36 | dancor | how does the debian install install the *.deb's to /target, i can't find apt-get or dpkg anywhere after i drop into shell |
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| 08:29.39 | arooni | simonrvn, and i have already ran the check_perms -f script thank you. the permissions immediately revert to root:root ... even if i try setting manually |
| 08:29.53 | arooni | simonrvn, so you see, i did read the manual. i wish you wouldn't make such assumptions |
| 08:30.02 | simonrvn | must be doing something wrong, they're not supposed to |
| 08:30.09 | pogay | zxxxxd: you can try mount --bind to bind a subtree in another path |
| 08:30.18 | simonrvn | or something else is going over and screwing them up. |
| 08:30.50 | simonrvn | arooni: no i'm glad i did, since i get to see someone who did. it's refreshing. |
| 08:31.11 | enouf | !\o/ |
| 08:31.11 | dpkg | well, \o/ is w00t! O_o cool \o// oh joy! |
| 08:31.17 | enouf | ;-) |
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| 08:32.42 | arooni | what could be preventing me from changing the group on /var/lib/mailman ? i already made sure mailman wasn't running ... it immediately reverts back to root:root |
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| 08:34.19 | dancor | what device is mounted to / during debian install? |
| 08:34.30 | dancor | mount shows nothing for / |
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| 08:38.15 | gambakufu_ | hi. when I try to install packages using apt-get I get an error "cannot ignore CHLD signal". any idea what that means? |
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| 08:42.45 | simonrvn | arooni: what's ls -ld /var/lib/mailman; list: or root: ? |
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| 08:44.14 | arooni | i think it goes group:user ... assuming so; its root/list |
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| 08:44.26 | arooni | root:list |
| 08:44.56 | mrynit | i have a deb file that has other dependences. is there a way to install it such that it will auto find and install what it needs? |
| 08:45.29 | Dreamlinux | gambakufu_: hi wich is the program that you want to install? |
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| 08:45.36 | arooni | simonrvn, that is |
| 08:46.14 | simonrvn | set it list: (i.e., list:list). sec. |
| 08:46.37 | simonrvn | actually no |
| 08:46.54 | simonrvn | mine's set: drwxrwsr-x 14 root list 4.0K 2007-03-02 02:36 /var/lib/mailman/ |
| 08:46.59 | simonrvn | setgid list |
| 08:47.25 | arooni | drwxrwsr-x 9 root list 1024 2008-08-07 08:03 /var/lib/mailman |
| 08:47.35 | simonrvn | hm, it |
| 08:47.37 | simonrvn | is |
| 08:47.50 | simonrvn | but everything under it is root: ? |
| 08:47.53 | simonrvn | weird |
| 08:48.30 | arooni | not quite : http://pastie.org/249054 |
| 08:48.32 | arooni | should i reinstall? |
| 08:51.31 | simonrvn | ok, what about the real bin/ and scripts/ ? |
| 08:51.41 | simonrvn | for this? no. |
| 08:53.14 | arooni | for the stuff in /usr/lib/mailman (i think this is the real stuff)... its list:list for the directories and root:list for everything inside them |
| 08:53.36 | mrynit | i have libsqlite3-0 installed but when i click on a deb file to install it says libsqlite3-0 is not installed. what is going on here? |
| 08:53.43 | rikva | Is there some option in menuconfig to compile *everything* in a category into the kernel (not as modules)? |
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| 08:54.20 | soulchild | hi all, a decoder for ogg videos? |
| 08:54.34 | simonrvn | !tell soulchild -about search |
| 08:54.41 | soulchild | !ogv |
| 08:54.52 | simonrvn | it's ogg theora .. |
| 08:54.52 | arooni | simonrvn, any last thoughts? i'm about to go tlseep |
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| 08:55.31 | simonrvn | arooni: when i had a problem like this is was usually due to the ownerships of those to directories' contents |
| 08:55.43 | simonrvn | er, never mind the bad grammar |
| 08:55.53 | arooni | how did your resolve? |
| 08:55.58 | Dreamlinux | soul? |
| 08:56.02 | arooni | as soon as i change permission they are immediately reverted |
| 08:56.22 | vlt | simonrvn: I replaced cabling already, but not the pppoe modem (got only one). How to check "upstream"? |
| 08:56.38 | Dreamlinux | soulchild: try whit oggdec :) |
| 08:56.47 | Dreamlinux | with* |
| 08:57.04 | simonrvn | arooni: you using debian's? |
| 08:57.15 | arooni | simonrvn, yes sir |
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| 08:57.54 | drax2gma | hi ppl |
| 08:59.34 | drax2gma | How can I make a login script what actually has no bash rights, but the same user can use ssh tunnel features? Anybody knows? |
| 09:00.02 | soulchild | Dreamlinux: thankx |
| 09:00.27 | simonrvn | vlt: upstream you can only traceroute and ping. maybe you left off the filter on the phone? |
| 09:00.51 | simonrvn | fuck, it's early, no wonder i'm tired |
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| 09:02.48 | Dreamlinux | Ampache is a Web-based Audio file manager. for people who do not know this program, is very good and funny. :) my ampache > http://dreamlinux.homelinux.org/ampache/index.php |
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| 09:04.58 | Spirit_ | i am running some cheap vps, it is using debian 4.0, can i simply upgrade to lenny or sid via aptitude? |
| 09:05.13 | Spirit_ | i guess i would need to reboot for a new kernel to be used, right? |
| 09:05.41 | brick | yea |
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| 09:06.30 | Spirit_ | yea for both? :) |
| 09:07.01 | brick | think so |
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| 09:07.26 | Spirit_ | alright, gonna try |
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| 09:07.56 | Spirit_ | upgrading to sid is just editing the sources.list to unstable, then aptitude update, upgrade, dist-upgrade, right? |
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| 09:11.00 | Dreamlinux | Spirit hi :) |
| 09:11.31 | Spirit_ | hi |
| 09:12.27 | Dreamlinux | you want upgrade from debian lenny to sid? |
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| 09:13.05 | Spirit_ | at the moment i guess i am running a etch/lenny mix. and that i want to upgrade to sid, yes |
| 09:13.08 | vlt | simonrvn: "filter on the phone"? |
| 09:13.26 | brick | vlt, a DSL filter |
| 09:13.39 | Dreamlinux | jeje ok Spirit |
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| 09:14.03 | vlt | brick: hmmm, no filter here. Just the line and the modem. |
| 09:14.10 | vlt | What does this filter do? |
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| 09:14.46 | brick | vlt, it filters out the DSL signals so you can still use a phone. |
| 09:14.54 | Dreamlinux | and yes update, upgrade and dist-upgrade |
| 09:15.12 | vlt | brick: Aah, ok. No phone here either. Just line and modem. |
| 09:15.23 | simonrvn | i've seen it affect both the modem and the phone... so yeh, it's useful for the modem too... |
| 09:15.32 | brick | vlt, then that's why! |
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| 09:16.39 | Dreamlinux | also full dist-upgrade if you want to make a full upgrade of your system :) |
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| 09:20.29 | ShredZ | Can I reprint 126 stopped jobs in cups without clicking reprint job for all of them ? :/ |
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| 09:20.53 | CuBe0wL_ | hi all |
| 09:21.03 | GuySoft | hi all, i am releasing a manual package under the Artistic license. is there any difference to it and CC? |
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| 09:21.14 | CuBe0wL_ | where can I find the kernel source package for etchnhalf? (not the image) |
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| 09:21.43 | joneal | hi |
| 09:21.56 | CuBe0wL_ | I'm searching for this image's sources: linux-image-2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 |
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| 09:23.37 | Dreamlinux | see ya dudes they care a lot bytes! |
| 09:23.38 | jmho | hi, how can I package a compiled python app? I tried with "dpkg-buildpackage -b", but that does not work (.py's are in the package)? |
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| 09:31.18 | rvsjoen | looks like it |
| 09:31.26 | karme | rvsjoen: thanks |
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| 09:33.14 | gambakufu_ | dreamlinux: sorry for responding so late, I get the CHLD signal error when trying to install lynx. |
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| 09:38.34 | lucapost | hi all |
| 09:38.52 | lucapost | hi all |
| 09:39.14 | Sumpen | guys, im not sure how this works. Can i compile any one of the new kernel versions on a powerpc comp or do i use ppc kernels? |
| 09:40.56 | maligor | nothing is lost by trying |
| 09:41.17 | maligor | I guess it depends on the ppc system in question too |
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| 09:41.48 | zamba | how do i install linux on a software raid? |
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| 09:42.02 | zamba | i have two hard drives of identical sizes and i want to set these up in software raid |
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| 09:43.14 | dancor | is there a way to tell apt-install to use a *.deb file |
| 09:43.28 | zamba | dancor: dpkg |
| 09:43.29 | Lagbolts | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:43.33 | zamba | Lagbolts: yup |
| 09:43.44 | Lagbolts | zamba, well you can use the installer, it has an option for raid |
| 09:44.01 | zamba | Lagbolts: the debian installer? when did that arrive? |
| 09:44.12 | Lagbolts | i believe it is in the etch installer, let me check |
| 09:44.28 | zamba | i've never seen that before |
| 09:44.29 | Lagbolts | for sure yo can with lenny, lots of options, can do encrypted |
| 09:44.41 | Lagbolts | maybe its just lenny, let me take a gander |
| 09:45.05 | zamba | i want to install etch, you see :) |
| 09:45.11 | Lagbolts | ok |
| 09:45.19 | Lagbolts | raid 1? |
| 09:45.21 | zamba | yeah |
| 09:45.34 | Lagbolts | http://andreas.scherbaum.la/blog/archives/54-Install-Debian-Etch-on-a-Software-Raid-1-with-S-ATA-disks.html |
| 09:45.41 | Lagbolts | how bout that? |
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| 09:45.45 | quentusrex23 | Hello all |
| 09:45.52 | Lagbolts | hi quentusrex23 |
| 09:46.15 | quentusrex23 | I know nvidia has always been better supported of all the graphics chips. What is the current state? Is AMD working better now? |
| 09:46.24 | Lagbolts | zamba, google "etch installer raid1" lots of nice howto's i see. |
| 09:46.41 | Pollero | quentusrex23: i would say that nvidia is still better |
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| 09:46.46 | dancor | zamba: ah yes, that worked after chrooting to /target |
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| 09:46.51 | ribasushi | anyone here with thunderbird - is there a way to make it show unread counts next to the tree root (the account name) in addition to the individual folders? I remember there used to be an option but can't find it |
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| 09:47.02 | zamba | Lagbolts: ah, thanks.. cool |
| 09:47.13 | Lagbolts | np zamba |
| 09:47.26 | zamba | lvm isn't really an option, is it? |
| 09:47.30 | milligan | I'm trying to configure the quota plugin for dovecot. I'm using this: concat('dirsize:storage=',floor(quota/1024)) AS quota <- However, if I set the users quota to be 0 (which, according to the documentation should be unlimited), I still get a quota exceeded error when trying to send the user an email. Any ideas why ? |
| 09:47.32 | zamba | i just want mirroring |
| 09:47.38 | Lagbolts | zamba, i think it is |
| 09:47.42 | zamba | Lagbolts: oh? |
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| 09:48.05 | Lagbolts | zamba, hmm let me see |
| 09:48.09 | zamba | if the lvm breaks everything breaks, doesn't it? |
| 09:48.22 | Lagbolts | breaks? how so |
| 09:48.26 | zamba | btw, i have the intel 82801GR/GH raid controller, can i utilize this in any way? |
| 09:48.35 | Lagbolts | i use lvm at home and encrypted lvm on laptop |
| 09:48.35 | zamba | or should i just rely on the kernel? |
| 09:48.54 | Lagbolts | zamba, i dontknow bout that raid controller. prob not hardware tho |
| 09:48.56 | Lagbolts | !fakeraid |
| 09:48.56 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, fakeraid is term used for controller cards that advertise RAID functionality that is NOT supported by a hardware chip for parity. Most of these have only a BIOS ... if you use them with Debian it's suggested that you don't set a RAID in the BIOS and don't use dmraid, just use regular software RAID (ask me about <md>). see <sata faq> |
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| 09:49.02 | epsilon | if unsure use kernel raid |
| 09:49.15 | zamba | Lagbolts: it's a fake raid, yeah |
| 09:49.30 | Lagbolts | use kernel. |
| 09:49.33 | zamba | yeah |
| 09:49.42 | Lagbolts | zamba, are you going to keep etch or upgrade to lenny when it becomes stable? |
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| 09:49.51 | epsilon | cause with kernel raid, you can be sure you will be able to read it on other PC |
| 09:50.10 | zamba | Lagbolts: i'll probably go for lenny once it becomes stable, yeah |
| 09:50.13 | Lagbolts | very good point epsilon. i always forget that |
| 09:50.28 | zamba | but it's very important that this box is stable from day one |
| 09:50.42 | Lagbolts | zamba, well you can def configure lvm in the etch installer |
| 09:50.43 | Pollero | zamba: sofware raid is stable |
| 09:50.51 | epsilon | ack |
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| 09:51.12 | zamba | Pollero: yup, i know.. i've used it myself earlier |
| 09:51.17 | zamba | and still using it |
| 09:51.23 | zamba | but i'm thinking about lenny/etch |
| 09:51.32 | Pollero | same here. Lot's of nodes with mdadm and lvm |
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| 09:51.45 | zamba | !lvm |
| 09:51.45 | dpkg | it has been said that lvm is the Linux Logical Volume Manager (http://sources.redhat.com/lvm2/). Resources: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/, http://dev.riseup.net/grimoire/storage/lvm2/, <lvm_tutorial>, <lvm removedisk>, <lvm movelv>, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/410, http://sources.redhat.com/lvm2/wiki/ IRC: #lvm @ irc.freenode.net. |
| 09:51.57 | Lagbolts | lenny/etch? dont mix. that is not a good idea |
| 09:51.58 | Pollero | depend where you are going to use that box. If production then defenatily etch |
| 09:52.01 | epsilon | if you run a stable server, never use testing, even it's frozen |
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| 09:52.18 | zamba | yeah, i'll definitely just use etch |
| 09:52.34 | Lagbolts | zamba, then decide what you want and use the installer, raid/lvm are both options |
| 09:52.43 | epsilon | you still have 1 year time after lenny release to upgrade |
| 09:53.56 | zamba | i usually just have one partition for / and no other partitions.. so maybe lvm isn't neccessary for me? |
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| 09:54.19 | clamiax | hi all |
| 09:54.26 | clamiax | does anyone have problems with aMSN on Lenny? |
| 09:54.32 | Pollero | clamiax: yep |
| 09:54.39 | Pollero | clamiax: haven't worked in three days |
| 09:54.49 | clamiax | I'm not able to connect anymore, nor with http nor via MSN |
| 09:55.02 | maligor | maybe msn changed protocol |
| 09:55.09 | clamiax | Pollero: ah.. cool, but other MSN clients works properly (also web messenger) |
| 09:55.11 | Pollero | clamiax: something must have changed in serverside. Just don't know what |
| 09:55.16 | clamiax | maligor: then why PigDin works? |
| 09:55.19 | Pollero | yea, web messenger works |
| 09:55.36 | clamiax | i think it's a bug in aMSN (guessed from strace(1) output which is suspected) |
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| 09:56.10 | matata | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:57.20 | Pollero | clamiax: it looks like update fix that.. |
| 09:57.56 | clamiax | Pollero: a update yesterday, let me try again. THX |
| 09:58.27 | Pollero | clamiax: yea. I see this problem here in works (Debian Lenny) and home Ubuntu 8.04. Just now try update in Lenny and it worked |
| 09:58.50 | clamiax | Pollero: via apt or just you used the latest tarball? |
| 09:58.58 | Pollero | apt |
| 09:59.07 | clamiax | i have no aMSN upgrades here |
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| 09:59.27 | Pollero | clamiax: what veresion you have? |
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| 10:01.20 | clusty | hey |
| 10:01.36 | clusty | how can I tell if a certain host is running a dns server? |
| 10:01.54 | clusty | scan port 43? |
| 10:02.01 | clusty | 53 i mean |
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| 10:02.16 | Pollero | clusty: yea |
| 10:02.18 | Joelio | hey guys, I'm having a problem with the etchnhalf network install on a poweredge 2950. The Broadcom NetExtreme II card is not found and prompts me to select a driver (although dropping to another terminal shows that the bnx2 module is loaded??) |
| 10:02.28 | omry|work | how do I get into a group without logging out (after adding myself to that group) ? |
| 10:02.38 | Pollero | Joelio: it want's tg3... |
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| 10:02.59 | Joelio | Pollero, I'll try that, thanks |
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| 10:06.22 | quentusrex23 | #hardware |
| 10:08.23 | Joelio | Pollero: Doesn't work, drops back to the 'No network card found, select driver' screen |
| 10:09.04 | Pollero | yea of course. If it does not find it right away then manual modprobe won't do anything. You need to get that driver from broadcom.com and compile + insmod it by yourself |
| 10:09.23 | Pollero | trust me. Done it many times |
| 10:09.41 | Joelio | Pollero: WTF? The normal etch installer works fine, why did they remove the support? |
| 10:10.07 | Pollero | i don't know. Couple of weeks ago i got Dell R300 with exatcly same problem |
| 10:10.17 | Pollero | and exatly same nic |
| 10:10.29 | Joelio | Yea, the 5708.. what a PITA! |
| 10:10.40 | Pollero | tell me about it.. :) |
| 10:11.35 | wols | !tell Joelio about kmuto |
| 10:12.04 | Pollero | wtf is kmuto? :D |
| 10:13.12 | Pollero | aaa. i have tryed those on R300. It wont work |
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| 10:13.30 | wols | r300 being the radeon 8500? |
| 10:13.52 | Pollero | nope. r300 is Dell Poweredge R300 rackserver :) |
| 10:14.10 | Pollero | which has same nic what 2950 got |
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| 10:14.25 | Joelio | I still can't understand why they'd break/remove the modules |
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| 10:15.49 | Joelio | t.b.h I think I'll just hand up the gloves with etch+half.. Even when I tried the kernel on a fresh etch(4.0r4) install yesterday it hung when booting. Not like Debian this, not the Debian I've used for best part of 6 years anyway?? |
| 10:16.18 | Pollero | 2950 contains one more shitty problem in nic if you use Xen. Network dies after started Xen. You need to manually disable some shitty maintenance mode using Broadcom DOS tools.. :) |
| 10:16.28 | Joelio | eek |
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| 10:17.47 | Joelio | They're only going to be DNS servers, so it's no biggy. I still have to recompile the Ubuntu bind9 packages against etch anyway because their version has better thread handling. |
| 10:18.10 | clusty | Pollero, how can I figure out which dns server am I currently using? |
| 10:18.12 | Pollero | pretty heavy server for DNS :) |
| 10:18.19 | Pollero | clusty: check /etc/resolv.conf |
| 10:18.47 | clusty | Pollero, it gets updated automagilly :D? |
| 10:19.10 | Pollero | clusty: if you are using DHCP yea. When tou get IP from dhcpd it automatically assing you dns-servers |
| 10:19.18 | clamiax | Pollero: 0.97 i think, let mi check |
| 10:19.27 | cedric3 | hi i have one question please i want to install a package but i have apt-get -f install libc6 2.3.2.ds1-22sarge6 (en utilisant .../libc6_2.3.6.ds1-13etch5_i386.deb it want to upgrade glibc |
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| 10:19.40 | Joelio | Pollero: yea, I'm the sysadmin for a large ISP. With the DNS exploit and urandom stuff that brought in, we wanted to extend and futureproof the service. |
| 10:19.41 | clusty | Pollero, thanks |
| 10:19.42 | clamiax | O.o |
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| 10:19.48 | clamiax | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:19.50 | clamiax | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:19.53 | clamiax | is it possible? O.o |
| 10:20.19 | cedric3 | i doon't know why it want to upgrade to libc6_2.3.6.ds1-13etch5_i386.deb i am on sarge not on etch |
| 10:20.20 | Pollero | clamiax: :)) |
| 10:20.21 | clamiax | Okay, i did something wrong while upgrading to lenny |
| 10:20.38 | Pollero | clamiax: i got same after upg and now its working |
| 10:20.41 | clamiax | How can i update *all* the already installed packages? |
| 10:20.49 | Pollero | apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade |
| 10:20.57 | cedric3 | nobody have any idea please |
| 10:21.00 | clamiax | Pollero: none, it doesn't update aMSN |
| 10:21.07 | clamiax | Pollero: but apt-get install amsn is working |
| 10:21.07 | Pollero | try dist-upgrade |
| 10:21.13 | clamiax | Pollero: either |
| 10:21.26 | Pollero | well that 0.97.1.. is newest |
| 10:21.31 | Pollero | in Lenny's r epo |
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| 10:21.54 | clamiax | Pollero: i wondering why apt is installing (not upgrading) aMSN since it's already installed |
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| 10:22.23 | Pollero | and im starting to hate this Testing. I got 699 updates available. Last time i updated 600 packages this dickhead uninstalled grub and install lilo. No idea why :) Now im too scared to upgrade and reboot :D |
| 10:22.42 | Pollero | clamiax: i don't follow you now sry :/ |
| 10:22.55 | cedric3 | i am actually on libc6_2.3.2.ds1-22sarge6_i386.deb but it want to install libc6_2.3.6.ds1-13etch5_i386.deb is it ok for you ? |
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| 10:23.59 | voraistos | do you know how to put an end to firefox/iceweasel when killall doesnt work ? |
| 10:24.32 | wols | kill -9 |
| 10:24.43 | wols | cedric3: not ok. |
| 10:24.48 | wols | cedric3: update to etch |
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| 10:24.53 | clamiax | Pollero: i mean that i installed aMSN from etch, now i update to lenny and apt-get update doesn't update aMSN but if i use apt-get install amsn it works |
| 10:24.53 | uzbek | hi everybody |
| 10:24.54 | wols | !tell cedric3 about sarge->etch |
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| 10:25.42 | clamiax | Pollero: by the way, it worked |
| 10:25.44 | clamiax | THX! |
| 10:25.50 | Pollero | apt-get update don't update any package. Itäs update package-list.. |
| 10:25.54 | Pollero | clamiax: great |
| 10:26.03 | uzbek | i'd like to boot from usb drive (i'd like to test puppy linux). Can anyone give me a reference to a tutorial to use usb as booting device? |
| 10:26.07 | cedric3 | wols : no i just want to install a package but when i try i have this message use apt-get -f install libc6-dev: D�pend: libc6 (= 2.3.6.ds1-13etch5) mais 2.3.2.ds1-22sarge6 will installed |
| 10:26.23 | cedric3 | it's not very good i don't know why it want to update to this package etch |
| 10:26.39 | wols | cedric3: sarge is obsolete h |
| 10:26.40 | Pollero | cedric3: well you donät want to install libc6 from etch to sarge. |
| 10:26.52 | wols | obsolete and has no security update anymore. it is INSECURE |
| 10:27.02 | wols | so _please_ upgrade to etch |
| 10:27.11 | Pollero | cedric3: sure you can do it, but im pretty sure you are going to run some pretty interesting problems |
| 10:27.11 | cedric3 | yes but i can't update now i sill do that after |
| 10:27.34 | cedric3 | i just want now install a package but not update libc6 |
| 10:27.48 | Pollero | use --force-all? :D |
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| 10:28.16 | cedric3 | i can't install the package the system tell me use apt-get -f install but i don't want how i can install my package |
| 10:28.22 | cedric3 | or delete this warning |
| 10:28.37 | Pollero | huoh |
| 10:28.50 | defrysk | use --download only and install it with dpkg |
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| 10:29.00 | defrysk | use --download-only and install it with dpkg |
| 10:29.12 | cedric3 | but i can't use apt-get |
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| 10:29.27 | voraistos | wols this didnt help. |
| 10:29.28 | defrysk | apt-get -f install first then :S |
| 10:29.42 | voraistos | also the system monitor says it's uninterruptible |
| 10:30.09 | uzbek | is there a magic way to solve aptitude broken links? |
| 10:30.14 | cedric3 | but if i use this apt-get -f install it tell me install this i don't want i think i download |
| 10:30.34 | uzbek | i can't install anything, it's always complaining about broken, unmet dependencies |
| 10:30.46 | defrysk | cedric3, use google to find the package |
| 10:30.51 | cedric3 | ok thanks |
| 10:30.57 | wfq | hi guys |
| 10:31.09 | wols | voraistos: what didn't? |
| 10:31.17 | wfq | I installed mozilla-thunderbird long time ago but I can't remember how ta call it to be executed |
| 10:31.34 | wols | cedric3: you cannot. if you install it you will break your debian. do a clean upgrade from sarge to etch |
| 10:31.40 | wfq | in /usr/bin I can not finde anything like thunderbird or mozilla |
| 10:31.54 | wols | wfq: use debian packages then |
| 10:32.13 | Pollero | wols: he wont believe us until he breka the box.. |
| 10:32.13 | wfq | I did, I used debian packages when I installed it |
| 10:32.39 | wols | !iceape |
| 10:32.40 | dpkg | rumour has it, iceape is The Iceape Internet Suite is an unbranded Seamonkey Internet Suite suitable for free distribution. The Seamonkey Internet Suite is a set of Internet oriented applications. It is the continuity of the Mozilla Suite after it has been abandoned in favor of Firefox and Thunderbird. |
| 10:32.41 | pflanze | Hm, http://debian.org times out (192.25.206.10, gluck.debian.org), only http://www.debian.org (194.109.137.218, klecker.debian.org) works. |
| 10:32.42 | defrysk | some people are destined to break their system |
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| 10:32.58 | wols | hmmm. what was tbird called again? |
| 10:33.02 | Pollero | defrysk: :DD |
| 10:33.22 | defrysk | splashy rocks by the way |
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| 10:33.30 | defrysk | love it |
| 10:33.35 | wols | uzbek: pastebin the apt-get command you run and it's full output |
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| 10:34.21 | my007ms | there is vulnerability in BIND and i keep try update my debian box but still not fix this vulnerability |
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| 10:35.48 | wfq | wols, icedove |
| 10:36.05 | wols | that's it. thanks. so run it :) |
| 10:36.12 | defrysk | is it not also symlinked to thunderbird ? |
| 10:36.31 | defrysk | it should be afaIk |
| 10:36.37 | linuxguy | Hi there.....ive just installed r4.04 "etch" and im trying to get compiz to work......the compiz site says that there known issues with Etch and it works properly or better using Lenny....is it possible to upgrade to Lenny via an update please? |
| 10:36.56 | tarzeau | !etch->lenny |
| 10:37.14 | tarzeau | !stable->testing |
| 10:37.28 | wfq | df |
| 10:37.37 | wfq | wols, it was icedove for thunderbird |
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| 10:37.45 | tarzeau | /dev/sda1 4806904 1563260 2999460 35% / |
| 10:38.13 | defrysk | try df -h |
| 10:38.48 | wols | defrysk: it is. at least my iceweasel is |
| 10:39.13 | defrysk | yesw also goes for firefox iceweasel |
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| 10:39.39 | linuxguy | tarzeau, am I supposed to get a message from dpkg? |
| 10:39.58 | clamiax | brb |
| 10:39.58 | tarzeau | linuxguy: not you but the channel, but she didn't answer |
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| 10:40.06 | Pollero | linuxguy: yes you can. update sources.list and run apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 10:40.25 | Pollero | linuxguy: in sources.list change stable to testing |
| 10:40.50 | defrysk | or etch to lenny |
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| 10:41.59 | linuxguy | tar......i thought she didnt answer........I can wait....perhaps the bots still in bed....~lol~ |
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| 10:42.37 | linuxguy | Pollero, how unstable is lenny? |
| 10:43.00 | defrysk | lenny is more stable then ubuntu stable |
| 10:43.24 | my007ms | !etch->lenny |
| 10:43.25 | defrysk | and lenny will be declared stable in a few months hopefully |
| 10:43.41 | Pollero | linuxguy: pretty stable. Im runnin it on this desktop. Uptime 90 days |
| 10:43.48 | my007ms | where is doc to tell me how to upgrade to etch->lenny ? |
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| 10:44.05 | Pollero | my007ms: i just say it.. |
| 10:44.20 | ribasushi | linuxguy: stable/unstable is a bad and confusing name scheme - there is nothing "unstable" about unstable. Unless you are not running a mission critical server (production/hospital) - it makes no difference to you except that you get your hands on more recent versions of packages |
| 10:44.23 | my007ms | i was think this is trigger :) |
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| 10:45.13 | defrysk | ribasushi, unstable can have some breakage off and on |
| 10:45.23 | defrysk | so its wiser to use testing |
| 10:45.41 | linuxguy | Politoed, .....ok so in the sources list I change anything with stable in it to testing?...then do apt-get update and apt-dist -upgrade |
| 10:46.05 | Pollero | linuxguy: yea |
| 10:46.23 | ribasushi | which is what I do on my servers, yes, I was more commenting on the term itself |
| 10:46.25 | linuxguy | Politoed, thanks......will try that now |
| 10:46.29 | uzbek | wols, http://dpaste.com/69960/ |
| 10:46.30 | defrysk | linuxguy, yes and i would advise to use a tty to install it in case x braks |
| 10:46.38 | defrysk | breaks |
| 10:47.35 | linuxguy | defrysk, ........thats dropping down to a black screen and logging in again?....getting root and doing what Pollero said? |
| 10:48.01 | defrysk | linuxguy, ctrl-alt f1 to f6 |
| 10:48.15 | defrysk | f7 brings you back to x |
| 10:48.36 | ribasushi | defrysk: you should have mentioned the "come back" first :) |
| 10:48.36 | MrFahrenheit | what was the name of that intermediate script tool that could generate iptables for firewalls? |
| 10:48.43 | defrysk | linuxguy, correct |
| 10:49.06 | linuxguy | defrysk, ......ok thanks will do |
| 10:49.10 | defrysk | ribasushi, hehe |
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| 10:49.22 | linuxguy | Pollero, thanks......i will try whats been said now |
| 10:49.26 | linuxguy | BBL |
| 10:49.28 | ribasushi | crap... webdeveloper does not work with iceweasel anymore :( |
| 10:49.32 | wols | uzbek: you have debian multimedia and debian.org packages installed at the same time for the same packages. choose ONE repo, not both |
| 10:49.33 | Pollero | linuxguy: yea. |
| 10:49.44 | ribasushi | can someone who has it test if ctrl+shift+F shows anything? |
| 10:50.03 | DawnLigh1 | yo |
| 10:50.06 | uzbek | wols, how to do that, just remove one of them from sources.list? |
| 10:50.31 | DawnLigh1 | I'm looking for a web application (suite) that helps with project management, inter-project communication and issue tracking (same as bug tracking but not with software). |
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| 10:50.45 | defrysk | uzbek, comment it out |
| 10:50.49 | Pollero | DawnLigh1: eventum? |
| 10:50.50 | wols | uzbek: remove the packages and install them from one source. media players and codecs. either debian OR debian-multimedia. not mixing both |
| 10:51.06 | wols | defrysk: trac, mantis, etc |
| 10:51.14 | uzbek | wols, thanx |
| 10:51.15 | wols | defrysk: what would commenting sources.list help? |
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| 10:52.03 | defrysk | wols, maybe i misunderstood |
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| 10:53.22 | pflanze | I'm trying to create a Debian package for the first time, and I want to do it for a git checkout; is dh_make really the way to go? Any tips? Where to ask this? |
| 10:53.25 | linuxguy | damn.......just opened my sources.list and there isnt a "stable" file there....look deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free they all look similiar to that line |
| 10:53.41 | ribasushi | etch == stable |
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| 10:53.51 | Kamping_Kaiser | !mentors |
| 10:53.51 | dpkg | from memory, mentors is the system that the Debian project uses to train new people to become Debian Developers or Debian Maintainers and get their packages into the Debian archive. Ask me about <nmg> or <mg>. Also see http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/ #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org, and http://mentors.debian.net/ |
| 10:53.55 | Kamping_Kaiser | pflanze, ^^ |
| 10:53.58 | ribasushi | ecth will always stay etch, whereas stable will move along with the times |
| 10:54.19 | linuxguy | ribasushi, ok so I cahange that to testing? |
| 10:55.00 | ribasushi | yes |
| 10:55.25 | linuxguy | ribasushi, thanks |
| 10:55.34 | ribasushi | here is an example http://pastebin.com/d226ada3f |
| 10:55.59 | ribasushi | the stable is there so I can chose an older version of something if things go crazy (aptitude makes that very easy) |
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| 10:57.47 | pflanze | Kamping_Kaiser: note that I don't want to get this particular package into Debian, it's just for convenience. And I'm not sure mentors.debian.net does hold *technical* info for me, and #debian-mentors kicks me. |
| 10:58.09 | wols | !mg |
| 10:58.10 | dpkg | A simple packaging walkthrough can be found by (as root) "apt-get install maint-guide" and then (as user) www-browser /usr/share/doc/maint-guide/maint-guide.en.html/index.html" (or http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ online). Also ask me about <nmg>. 'Mg' is also the chemical symbol for magnesium, or may mean Madagascar. |
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| 11:00.53 | pflanze | wols: that's what I've actually started with; it tells me to use dh_make, but I'm not sure how appropriate this is for building debs from git checkouts. |
| 11:01.19 | pflanze | I'm worrying about two things: |
| 11:01.32 | pflanze | - how to take the version from "git describe" automatically |
| 11:01.45 | pflanze | - how to track that version automatically when I update the repo |
| 11:01.55 | pflanze | - how not to generate a tarball |
| 11:02.05 | pflanze | ok that last point isn't so important. |
| 11:02.55 | pflanze | also, it'd be cool if I could have the debian/ directory separate from the repository. |
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| 11:03.29 | pflanze | So as to be able to track it's contents in it's own repo, and so as to not require changing the .gitignore file of the upstream repo. |
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| 11:05.01 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'dnskeygen' returned no results. |
| 11:08.47 | buntfalke | Omg. '4:4.0.0.really.3.5.9.dfsg.1-5' great version string kde-team! no comment :-) |
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| 11:10.56 | cipherz | Hello, the debian/control file, is it true that a source paragraph is required to be there and it has to be the first ? |
| 11:11.24 | cipherz | I am trying to build a debian package from a svn directory, I dont have an upstream tarball.. |
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| 11:13.35 | defrysk | cipherz, I usually use checkinstall for peronal usage |
| 11:13.43 | deconvolution | hi, I am trying to find a document about apt-get about its options. However, after reading man pages, apt-docs and apt howto, I still cannot find some options such as --reinstall --Install-Recommends etc. Where are their descriptions? |
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| 11:14.55 | cipherz | defrysk, but the debian/control file generated by checkinstall has a source paragraph as well yes ? |
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| 11:15.56 | defrysk | cipherz, not sure to be honest , its generates a file but |
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| 11:16.15 | defrysk | i usuallu his enter instead of filling anything in |
| 11:17.15 | cipherz | defrysk, I think it uses dh_make as its backend :) |
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| 11:17.21 | sdschulze | What does it mean if Xft.dpi has no impact on the font size of xterm? |
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| 11:19.47 | cipherz | guess I am wrong it writes the control itself :) |
| 11:20.12 | extor | What is the difference between linux-image-2.6.18-6-xen-vserver-686 and xen-linux-system-2.6.18-6-xen-vserver-686 ? |
| 11:20.19 | wfq | guys, do you know if mdbtools for debian testing contain the gui interface package also? |
| 11:20.53 | Pollero | extor: i guess xen-linux is meta package and it install all relevant Xen packages too |
| 11:21.09 | extor | so the kernels are the same? |
| 11:21.17 | Pollero | yea |
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| 11:24.42 | wfq | have you installed mdbtools-gui on debian via using debian packages or this is not possible yet? |
| 11:24.55 | Rienzilla | Hey all... Is it possible in an iptables firewall, to decide to DNAT a packet if a packet does not match any rules in the FORWARD chain? |
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| 11:25.32 | Avanaboy | salve |
| 11:25.53 | Avanaboy | ho un problema con un adattore wireless |
| 11:26.00 | Avanaboy | qualcuno puo' aiutarmi per favore ? |
| 11:26.17 | Pollero | Avanaboy: speks english |
| 11:26.20 | Pollero | speak |
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| 11:27.13 | Avanaboy | uhm , thank you however |
| 11:27.18 | enouf | wfq: please don't simultaneously ask the same thing in multiple channels |
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| 11:27.44 | wfq | enouf, ok |
| 11:28.08 | enouf | wfq: You have searched for packages that names contain mdbtools-gui in all suites, all sections, and all architectures. Sorry, your search gave no results |
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| 11:28.34 | Rienzilla | (since DNAT is only vlaid in the PREROUTING chain, which has already been consulted as soon as I come in FORWARD) |
| 11:28.52 | wfq | enouf, I have seen that this is ready in rpm format |
| 11:29.13 | Pollero | wfq: use alien to install it? |
| 11:29.43 | wfq | well that would be a good idea |
| 11:29.44 | enouf | wfq: then it's alien time , i guess - or .. learn how to make a proper .deb from source |
| 11:29.52 | enouf | !alien |
| 11:29.52 | dpkg | from memory, alien is a program which allows one to convert from one package format to another: slackware to redhat, redhat to debian, debian to slackware, redhat to slackware, etc... it can handle stampede .slp packages as well, or some slimy, green, bug-like, creepy creature from outerspace that came to Earth to have sex with agent Scully, or at http://kitenet.net/programs/alien/ |
| 11:30.14 | wfq | enouf,pollero,thanks |
| 11:30.45 | enouf | ok folks, made a new factoid |
| 11:30.49 | enouf | !simul |
| 11:30.49 | dpkg | [simul] please don't simultaneously ask the same thing in multiple channels - thanks |
| 11:31.04 | streuner | !multiple ask |
| 11:31.05 | dpkg | methinks multiple ask is the chance of you getting a useful answer is inversely proportional to the square of the number of times you ask in a short amount of time: that is, if you ask four times in succession, you're 1/16 as likely to get a useful answer. Also, please don't ask both in freenode and oftc at the same time there's no real point in doing so and it's just annoying. |
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| 11:31.30 | enouf | streuner: excellent, but mine's better ;-) |
| 11:31.54 | enouf | streuner: he asked in ##linux and who knows where else |
| 11:32.55 | enouf | dpkg simul =~ s#multiple channels#multiple channels/networks# |
| 11:32.55 | dpkg | OK, enouf |
| 11:33.29 | enouf | dpkg simul is also see <multiple ask> |
| 11:33.29 | dpkg | enouf: okay |
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| 11:35.54 | zxxd | how to add gre tunnel in interfaces file |
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| 11:36.12 | zxxd | is there a shortcut like there is for v4tunnel |
| 11:36.15 | zxxd | Method |
| 11:36.29 | enouf | ? |
| 11:36.39 | enouf | ¿ |
| 11:36.43 | zxxd | ? |
| 11:36.48 | diveli | ! |
| 11:37.04 | zxxd | method , static , dhcp , v4tunnel |
| 11:37.08 | enouf | !spank zxxd |
| 11:37.08 | dpkg | bends zxxd over her knee and delivers a mighty *THWACK* |
| 11:37.14 | zxxd | w00t |
| 11:37.21 | diveli | wow |
| 11:37.24 | enouf | explain more |
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| 11:37.43 | zxxd | /etc/network/interfaces file check ? |
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| 11:38.01 | zxxd | instead of specifying the raw ip tunnel commands in pre-up post up etc |
| 11:38.08 | enouf | zxxd: try without hitting enter so much |
| 11:38.40 | enouf | i would try to help if i had half a clue what you're babbling about |
| 11:38.58 | enouf | but, you |
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| 11:39.22 | enouf | but, you're starting to look and smell like a candidate for my b0z0 box ;-) |
| 11:40.01 | Rienzilla | hmm |
| 11:40.06 | Rienzilla | this is not as easy as it looks :) |
| 11:41.12 | zxxd | enouf, you are an idiot |
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| 11:41.43 | enouf | not really, and would i know if i was? |
| 11:42.00 | Rienzilla | real idiots probably don't know they are an idiot :) |
| 11:42.07 | enouf | bingo |
| 11:42.15 | Rienzilla | it probably is one of their main characteristics :) |
| 11:42.19 | Rienzilla | oblivion :) |
| 11:42.53 | cipherz | ignorance is bliss ;) |
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| 11:50.19 | enouf | and .. even though b0z0 insulted me here - he did not "simul" , so i answered the clown in #debian on oftc.net - he had phrased the question a "tad" more clearly ;-) |
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| 11:50.49 | atomiku-work | How can I limit download speed on a particular interface? |
| 11:51.00 | abrotman | always or just as needed? |
| 11:52.12 | atomiku-work | just for now |
| 11:52.15 | atomiku-work | temporary |
| 11:52.42 | atomiku-work | I'm at work, trying to download a BF2142 patch at home hehe |
| 11:52.51 | atomiku-work | But I've got torrents maxing out my connection at home |
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| 11:53.16 | atomiku-work | So I'm trying to limit the speed of the IP masquerading interface so I can have the patch downloaded for when I get home |
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| 11:53.34 | atomiku-work | If not, I guess I could just 'ifconfig down' it |
| 11:54.35 | abrotman | !info trickle etch |
| 11:54.56 | dpkg | trickle: (user-space bandwidth shaper), section net, is optional. Version: 1.07-4 (etch), Packaged size: 34 kB, Installed size: 104 kB |
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| 11:55.08 | atomiku-work | Why thank you very much :) |
| 11:55.13 | atomiku-work | You've saved the day! |
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| 11:56.37 | abrotman | saved your day? |
| 11:57.53 | atomiku-work | Wait |
| 11:58.06 | atomiku-work | Could I have trickle limit the speed of... lets say.. eth0? |
| 11:58.15 | atomiku-work | Looks like its for running applications with limited speed to me |
| 11:58.25 | abrotman | it is |
| 11:58.28 | atomiku-work | Ahh. |
| 11:58.29 | atomiku-work | Darn |
| 11:58.39 | abrotman | you could limit your torrent app |
| 11:58.53 | atomiku-work | My torrent app is running on XP :( |
| 11:59.05 | abrotman | oh .. you want to do this on your debian router? |
| 11:59.07 | atomiku-work | Debian is kinda acting as the router |
| 11:59.09 | abrotman | !wondershaper |
| 11:59.09 | dpkg | wondershaper is probably a script which uses the traffic shaping features of the Linux kernel to fix some problems, including making downloads continue at full speed while uploads are happening at max rate, plus keeping good interactive response times while bulk transfers are busy |
| 11:59.10 | atomiku-work | yeah |
| 11:59.16 | atomiku-work | Nice |
| 11:59.16 | abrotman | better? |
| 11:59.20 | atomiku-work | I'll give that a try, hehe |
| 11:59.22 | atomiku-work | Thanks again<3 |
| 11:59.30 | abrotman | and stop using windows! .. jeez |
| 11:59.37 | atomiku-work | I know, I know |
| 11:59.42 | atomiku-work | I used debian for 1.5 years |
| 11:59.48 | atomiku-work | Had to go back to windows for gaming, unfortunatel |
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| 11:59.59 | atomiku-work | I still try and use debian as much as possible while doing web dev, etc |
| 12:00.09 | atomiku-work | "wondershaper is probably a script" |
| 12:00.10 | atomiku-work | ahaha |
| 12:00.57 | abrotman | oh .. that's just bot speak |
| 12:01.05 | abrotman | the factoid starts at "a script" |
| 12:01.14 | abrotman | !wondershaper |
| 12:01.14 | dpkg | i guess wondershaper is a script which uses the traffic shaping features of the Linux kernel to fix some problems, including making downloads continue at full speed while uploads are happening at max rate, plus keeping good interactive response times while bulk transfers are busy |
| 12:01.17 | abrotman | see |
| 12:02.25 | atomiku-work | Ahh |
| 12:02.29 | atomiku-work | !atomiku |
| 12:02.37 | atomiku-work | i guess atomiku is a lol |
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| 12:08.11 | freeemind | hello mates :) A friend of mine did "chmod -R 777 /" - is that recoverable without alot of typing work? |
| 12:08.19 | freeemind | (instead of reinstalling) |
| 12:08.21 | Pollero | lol, nope |
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| 12:08.43 | freeemind | Pollero, are you sure? |
| 12:08.47 | Pollero | freeemind: 99% |
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| 12:09.03 | freeemind | okay, thanks for info then :) |
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| 12:09.13 | freeemind | I will reinstall his system then |
| 12:09.28 | abrotman | freeemind: reinstall is far easier than the work you'd have to do to fix that |
| 12:09.52 | SledgY1 | Is there anyway to find out when a particular package was installed on your machine, I think recent xorg update has broken something... |
| 12:10.04 | tarzeau | SledgY1: see /var/log/dpkg.log |
| 12:10.04 | abrotman | the /var/log/dpkg.log |
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| 12:10.19 | SledgY1 | tarzeau: Ah thanks |
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| 12:20.40 | voraistos | Hi. do you know if there is a way to use only the good sectors of a damaged hdd? |
| 12:21.08 | voraistos | something similar to the badram kernel patch |
| 12:21.18 | voraistos | but in the filesystem itself. |
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| 12:23.21 | defrysk | voraistos, hd's with bad sectors are useless |
| 12:24.19 | Pollero | voraistos: buy new hd dude :D |
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| 12:25.17 | voraistos | i dont want to :D |
| 12:25.28 | Igneous | !tell Igneous fonts |
| 12:25.34 | defrysk | voraistos, then find a new hobby |
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| 12:25.45 | Igneous | wonders why dmsg is being mean to me |
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| 12:25.56 | voraistos | my hobby is to have a 20 MB hdd and keep it running :) |
| 12:26.09 | P4N1CO | someone could help me |
| 12:26.12 | defrysk | voraistos, good luck with it ;p |
| 12:26.16 | mihkel | Hey, why I can't launch X programs (gvim, xcalc etc) from command line? |
| 12:26.27 | mihkel | mihkel@debian:~$ gvim |
| 12:26.27 | mihkel | No protocol specified |
| 12:26.28 | mihkel | E233: cannot open display |
| 12:26.54 | voraistos | The noise it makes is too unique... i just cant trash it. |
| 12:27.00 | mihkel | debian testing and gnome |
| 12:27.15 | pietro_rc | weird |
| 12:27.21 | pietro_rc | I can't start iceweasel for some reason |
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| 12:27.41 | Jyzygzy- | my fucking god |
| 12:27.49 | Jyzygzy- | why the fuck does /etc/resolv.con keep changin |
| 12:28.07 | S[h]O[r]T | missing an f? ;p |
| 12:28.07 | Pollero | cos you have dhclient running? |
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| 12:28.16 | abrotman | voraistos: badblocks ? |
| 12:28.17 | voraistos | mihkel it must be realted to the way you log into the cmd |
| 12:28.22 | Jyzygzy- | Pollero why does he change it |
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| 12:28.30 | abrotman | because you didn't configure it not to |
| 12:28.32 | Jyzygzy- | i don't want him touching the fucking file anymore |
| 12:28.37 | mihkel | voraistos, ?? |
| 12:28.39 | Pollero | Jyzygzy-: cos that what it does :D |
| 12:28.47 | voraistos | pietro, you might have some sort of xulrunner-stub process running, and its not killable for some reason |
| 12:28.47 | abrotman | Jyzygzy-: then fucking configure it fucking correctly .. fucking |
| 12:28.49 | mihkel | I just open my terminal window |
| 12:29.00 | Pollero | abrotman: :DD |
| 12:29.02 | RichiH | Jyzygzy-: swearing will not help you in any way. understanding how dhcp works, on the other hand, will |
| 12:29.03 | voraistos | hmm |
| 12:29.12 | abrotman | Jyzygzy-: fix your dhclient.conf |
| 12:29.23 | pietro_rc | voraistos, maybe, I'll check it out, thanks |
| 12:29.31 | Jyzygzy- | what do i fix in there |
| 12:29.33 | voraistos | abrotman: i suspect the disk is physically damaged. for the moment i just did some rescue, ill see if a formatting helps |
| 12:29.46 | abrotman | Jyzygzy-: man dhclient.conf .. find the fix in the man page |
| 12:29.51 | RichiH | pietro_rc: if all else fails, remove your user settings |
| 12:30.09 | abrotman | voraistos: it's only likely going to get worse .. if it's data you value .. you really probably shouldn't even try |
| 12:30.15 | Jyzygzy- | request subnet-mask, broadcast-address, time-offset, routers, domain-name, domain-name-servers, domain-search, host-name, netbios-name-servers, netbios-scope, interface-mtu; |
| 12:30.17 | Jyzygzy- | owned |
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| 12:30.44 | pietro_rc | the funny thing is it's a fresh install |
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| 12:31.23 | voraistos | however if anyone is aware of some fs-side tool that prevents the fs from using specific part of the disk (in a similar fashion to badram patch), i'd be happy :D |
| 12:31.45 | voraistos | abrotman: i value the disk more than the data |
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| 12:32.23 | voraistos | it's an early seagate mounted on its own ISA card/controller |
| 12:32.29 | BlackDex | Hello there, i need to remove all ACL's but i can't get this done.. How can i remove all the ACL's? |
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| 12:32.51 | voraistos | 20MB disk, back then people were like "whooaaaa, you got a hard drive" |
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| 12:33.26 | Pollero | voraistos: when i was young i got Amstrad with 20MB hd. But that was something like 10 years ago dude |
| 12:34.00 | voraistos | the disk is from an amstrad :D |
| 12:34.01 | defrysk | my first hd had 10 mb on it |
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| 12:34.11 | defrysk | it had the size of an lp |
| 12:34.16 | epsilon | 1998 there was already 2GB available... |
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| 12:34.21 | defrysk | and weighd a ton |
| 12:34.23 | voraistos | and it was 18 years ago :P |
| 12:34.41 | Pollero | voraistos: yea :) i get from my father who bought it about 1980 :D |
| 12:34.44 | epsilon | or 8--- don't remember anymore |
| 12:34.47 | defrysk | a 8086 machine |
| 12:34.51 | voraistos | yes |
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| 12:34.57 | voraistos | that was the shit :) |
| 12:35.04 | Pollero | yea, great piece :D |
| 12:35.08 | voraistos | there was no central CPU |
| 12:35.17 | voraistos | only small chips all over the place |
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| 12:35.39 | defrysk | and and a tiny amount of ram |
| 12:35.47 | Pollero | 640kb |
| 12:35.49 | defrysk | and 2 huge floppy drives |
| 12:35.49 | voraistos | yes :D |
| 12:35.55 | voraistos | yes :D |
| 12:36.07 | voraistos | no way to install small ones with the onboard controller :P |
| 12:36.12 | Pollero | i got floppy drive. but it only readed 720kb floppys :) |
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| 12:36.37 | Pollero | i mean the small floppy. Not the big shit :D |
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| 12:36.49 | defrysk | made an xtra hole in his 720 flops to creat a double density |
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| 12:37.04 | Pollero | defrysk: yea!! lol, haha. There was that trick also :D |
| 12:37.05 | voraistos | i think the big floppies maxed out at 520 |
| 12:37.07 | voraistos | k |
| 12:37.12 | pietro_rc | RichiH, removing my users settings solved it, thanks a lot |
| 12:37.22 | pietro_rc | (I had none, anyway) |
| 12:37.50 | voraistos | lol |
| 12:38.13 | defrysk | running win 95 on 16 meg ram |
| 12:38.19 | defrysk | edo was the shits |
| 12:38.22 | Jyzygzy- | what FS did floppies use? |
| 12:38.25 | S[h]O[r]T | u run win 95 still |
| 12:38.26 | S[h]O[r]T | ? |
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| 12:38.40 | Pollero | Jyzygzy-: fat mostly if i remember correct |
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| 12:38.50 | defrysk | has a new lap and has vista on it with debian sid |
| 12:38.57 | voraistos | pfff. i could run 95 on 4 megs of ram :D on a 486 sx |
| 12:38.59 | defrysk | vista sp1 |
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| 12:39.35 | voraistos | with external added-myself cpu level2 cache |
| 12:39.52 | defrysk | vista sp1 is not as bad as I thougt it would be *hides* |
| 12:40.50 | voraistos | if i added 8 megs of ram to this install, i could play anno1602 on the damn thing ! |
| 12:40.50 | defrysk | has a compac pressario a900 now |
| 12:40.50 | defrysk | perfect for linux users |
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| 12:41.03 | tview | I have dual screens set up as seperate x screens. When I move my mouse from the TV screen to the monitor though any full screen flash loses full screen mode. Anyone know of a fix? |
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| 12:41.40 | defrysk | tview, flash is closed %^&$ |
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| 12:42.10 | tview | defrysk: I know. I am talking about nvidia on debian and asking if you are aware of a fix. Not wanting to start a religious bigot war. |
| 12:42.29 | defrysk | tview, its a flash issue |
| 12:42.52 | tview | *sigh* |
| 12:43.21 | voraistos | I'm tired of this flash crap. |
| 12:43.31 | OpenTokix | voraistos: flash is crap, yes |
| 12:43.41 | defrysk | flash sucks and will remain to do so |
| 12:43.42 | tview | believe me. I am too. But the facts are simply that flash is required for many sites. |
| 12:43.43 | OpenTokix | tview: regardless of OS you will get that happening |
| 12:43.44 | voraistos | And of firefox too. I mean ok, flash is bad, but not a reason to freeze the browser to death. |
| 12:44.11 | OpenTokix | tview: if you run a dual head and want to play flash full screen, if you move to the other screen you will loose fullscren |
| 12:44.19 | tview | OpenTokix: actually not. it does not happen when I dual boot to XP. |
| 12:44.31 | OpenTokix | tview: Are you running clone or dualview? |
| 12:44.44 | OpenTokix | twmi: sorry, misswritten |
| 12:44.52 | OpenTokix | twmi: are you running dualview or span? |
| 12:45.02 | tview | seperate x screens. |
| 12:45.14 | OpenTokix | twmi: error in my tab-usage - sorry |
| 12:45.17 | OpenTokix | tview: in windows |
| 12:45.26 | OpenTokix | tview: so you have two window managers r unning? |
| 12:45.33 | tview | OpenTokix: off top of head I dont know. Not in XP now. On debian. |
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| 12:45.56 | OpenTokix | tview: ok, in debian are you running two x servers? |
| 12:46.06 | OpenTokix | tview: or did you enable TwinView true in xorg.conf? |
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| 12:46.34 | tview | The only solution I have is to max firefox and then "zoom in" which makes it a bit pixelly but it works. And sorry to say that firefox still does not work "out of the box" in two instances on dual screens - you have to add a profile flag to one. |
| 12:47.50 | tview | OpenTokix: I already said - I use seperate xscreens. Whether that is two servers I do not know. I assume so since its not twinview. |
| 12:48.12 | OpenTokix | tview: ok |
| 12:48.16 | OpenTokix | coffe tiem |
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| 12:49.06 | SerajewelKS | i've got an ath5k-driven card and it shows up as wlan0, but it won't scan or associate. the wireless indicator on the computer itself is orange, which means the antenna is off (it's blue for on). how would i switch it on? (the physical switch is in the on position.) |
| 12:49.17 | SerajewelKS | the pciid is 168c:001c rev 01 |
| 12:49.27 | SerajewelKS | which according to the hcl is supported since 2.6.25, and i have 2.6.26 |
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| 12:53.30 | steven_ | is it possible to install debian from a hard drive |
| 12:53.43 | steven_ | ie copy the cd image to a parition and then boot that ? |
| 12:54.05 | steven_ | similar to the way kickstart works ? |
| 12:54.16 | SPF | I believe so |
| 12:54.36 | steven_ | SPF: thing is what happens when i repartition the drive ? |
| 12:54.51 | steven_ | i guess i would have to leave that partition on there |
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| 12:54.54 | Pollero | what do you think is going to happen? |
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| 12:55.43 | metal_dj | what is the best http proxy for the debian server? |
| 12:55.48 | metal_dj | what is the best http proxy for the debian server? |
| 12:55.51 | Maulkin | !best |
| 12:55.51 | dpkg | Best for what? Please define what you mean by "best". Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play! Anyone for Tennis! |
| 12:56.24 | metal_dj | lol |
| 12:56.27 | metal_dj | what is the best http proxy for the debian server? |
| 12:56.45 | SerajewelKS | metal_dj: clarify your question or you're not going to get an answer |
| 12:57.03 | metal_dj | i want to have a proxy in my debian box |
| 12:57.11 | SerajewelKS | yes, we gathered that |
| 12:57.15 | metal_dj | maybe you can give me a stable proxy |
| 12:57.20 | ptman | metal_dj: forward or reverse proxy? |
| 12:57.24 | SerajewelKS | "best" is highly subjective |
| 12:57.28 | Rienzilla | depends on what the proxy should do |
| 12:57.32 | metal_dj | both |
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| 12:57.33 | Rienzilla | a normal cache |
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| 12:57.37 | Rienzilla | use squid |
| 12:57.40 | ptman | yeah |
| 12:57.56 | SerajewelKS | or apache |
| 12:58.00 | SerajewelKS | if you don't want caching |
| 12:58.09 | metal_dj | no, what i mean is a existing proxy |
| 12:58.30 | abrotman | metal_dj: weren't you asking yesterday? |
| 12:59.01 | metal_dj | yup |
| 12:59.02 | SerajewelKS | metal_dj: define "existing" |
| 12:59.12 | ptman | metal_dj: not proxy software? do you mean debian mirror? |
| 12:59.13 | SerajewelKS | metal_dj: all these proxies exist |
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| 12:59.36 | abrotman | metal_dj: and didn't you get the same answer yesterday? |
| 12:59.43 | metal_dj | example: export set http_proxy="http://gokulnath_varadhan:<mypassword>@172.25.103.57:80" |
| 12:59.57 | metal_dj | sorry for my english |
| 13:00.02 | ptman | metal_dj: that depends on your ISP |
| 13:00.04 | Pollero | i dont understunt at all what dj is trying to say |
| 13:00.05 | SerajewelKS | metal_dj: so you want us to give you an open proxy? |
| 13:00.11 | metal_dj | yes |
| 13:00.22 | SerajewelKS | metal_dj: wrong channel, you want anything on efnet |
| 13:00.23 | metal_dj | maybe you have some recommended |
| 13:00.43 | Maulkin | metal_dj: please go elsewhere. Thanks |
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| 13:00.57 | SPF | metal_dj: you can find enought open proxies on google |
| 13:01.02 | SPF | -t |
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| 13:01.10 | metal_dj | some of them are down |
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| 13:01.36 | SerajewelKS | !beer Maulkin |
| 13:01.36 | dpkg | deftly decants a fine Delirium Tremens for Maulkin |
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| 13:01.47 | spiekey | hi |
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| 13:02.33 | SerajewelKS | i'm not entirely convinced that metal_dj wasn't a troll either |
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| 13:02.52 | spiekey | i am trying to compile apache and i get: http://pastebin.ca/1094681 :-/ |
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| 13:03.07 | Pollero | spiekey: how about #apache? |
| 13:03.16 | cr3rzemjest | how do you call the thing that you use to display files and dirs with icons? file manager? |
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| 13:03.31 | SerajewelKS | spiekey: did you install gcc yourself? |
| 13:03.36 | SerajewelKS | spiekey: or some other C preprocessor? |
| 13:03.44 | soulchild | Hi all, when using compiz, scrolling does not work as smoothly as normal, any ideas why? I use an intel X3000 GraphicsCard. |
| 13:03.47 | SerajewelKS | Pollero: this is actually related to autotools' detection of working cpp |
| 13:05.59 | SerajewelKS | spiekey: you should not be seeing errors like this if you have not messed around with the build system manually |
| 13:06.44 | wols | but he was /lastlog spiekey |
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| 13:08.25 | abrotman | soulchild: do you have dri working properly? |
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| 13:09.48 | SerajewelKS | wols: i don't think my backlog goes back that far :) |
| 13:09.51 | soulchild | abrotman: that's it, I deactivated it ,... |
| 13:09.57 | soulchild | abrotman: thanks |
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| 13:11.03 | SerajewelKS | is there some command that must be run to power up a wireless network card? |
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| 13:11.23 | SerajewelKS | the physical indicator on my laptop says that the antenna is off, though i have wlan0 up. it seems inoperative though. |
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| 13:13.52 | dbmoodb_ | hi ah what is the story with debian lenny and kde4 ? |
| 13:13.55 | dbmoodb_ | !kde4 |
| 13:13.55 | dpkg | well, kde 4 is a new and not-yet-complete version of the KDE desktop. It will not be released with Lenny but backports of KDE 4 packages are likely to be made. See http://ekaia.org/blog/2008/06/08/lets-go-for-kde-359-in-lenny/ Experimental packages for KDE 4.1 are available at http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde4.html but ask about these in #debian-kde not in #debian. See <kde version>. |
| 13:14.03 | dbmoodb_ | ok thank you |
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| 13:20.12 | sdschulze | Does anyone know this problem? I set my GNOME fonts to size 10 and everything looks right. But in order to achieve the same size in Iceweasel, I need about size 20. |
| 13:20.15 | soulchild | abrotman: I activated dri, but still firefox scrolls very slowly and laggy... :( |
| 13:21.05 | sdschulze | soulchild: just a guess, but reducing color depth helped me in different situations |
| 13:21.22 | sdschulze | (not related to compiz, though) |
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| 13:21.57 | soulchild | sdschulze: I ll try |
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| 13:22.49 | abrotman | soulchild: restart X? no idea |
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| 13:26.21 | Khades|Ru | wow |
| 13:27.40 | sdschulze | Or just in a more stupid manner: How do I change the DPI at run-time so the font in my xterm gets larger? |
| 13:27.50 | OpenTokix | Khades|Ru: yeah, my tought exactly when I first tried debian |
| 13:27.57 | Pollero | :D |
| 13:28.12 | Khades|Ru | very funny |
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| 13:28.30 | Khades|Ru | hehe |
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| 13:28.44 | dondelelcaro | sdschulze: just change the fonts in your xterm |
| 13:29.18 | shadfc | where is the password stored that debian-sys-maint uses to connect to mysql? |
| 13:29.29 | OpenTokix | Khades|Ru: =) |
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| 13:29.44 | cr3rzemjest | plx can somebody look what's wrong with my .xsession file? sometimes when i login conky isn't started, and now mpd as well. i mean, Xorg doesn't load apps as it should.... |
| 13:29.45 | dondelelcaro | shadfc: in /etc/mysql/debian.cnf |
| 13:29.46 | Pollero | shadfc: /etc/mysql/debian.conf |
| 13:29.51 | cr3rzemjest | http://rafb.net/p/DlZwPa46.html |
| 13:29.55 | shadfc | dondelelcaro: Pollero thx |
| 13:30.23 | cr3rzemjest | it works 99% of the time, but now for example, it didn't start the app! |
| 13:30.51 | Khades|Ru | wonders why Debian lenny haven't fltk with UTF-8 support?:( |
| 13:31.05 | Sumpen|aw | i get a scripts/basic/fixdep error when running: make menuconfig Have i made some common misstake? |
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| 13:32.22 | sdschulze | dondelelcaro: Yeah, but I'm a bit surprised that even starting with -dpi 300 sizes up everything -- just not xterm. |
| 13:32.41 | Mark17 | Hello, is debian 3.1 net install available (the disc)? |
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| 13:33.11 | dondelelcaro | sdschulze: xterm picks fonts using absolute sizes, iirc. |
| 13:33.15 | abrotman | Mark17: yes, but why would you want it? |
| 13:33.19 | dondelelcaro | (or at least, it often does) |
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| 13:33.23 | Sumpen | i need lib6-dev i think and libncurses5-dev, sorry for bothering you. Should have googled it first ^^ |
| 13:33.29 | abrotman | Mark17: 3.1 is no longer supported |
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| 13:36.11 | Mark17 | abrotman: i need to test if it works on certain hardware |
| 13:36.15 | hagisbasher | is there an easy to use IRC program for a console newbie to use that has a menu bar ? |
| 13:36.25 | Mark17 | so i need to install it 1 time and install some software |
| 13:36.33 | abrotman | Mark17: but it's pretty old .. how is that a good test of anything ? |
| 13:36.41 | Mark17 | it will be used for 2 hours max. |
| 13:36.47 | Mark17 | it is still in use these days |
| 13:36.57 | Khades|Ru | hagisbasher: May be xchat? it has console version |
| 13:37.04 | Mark17 | after that i will test it with a the newest version off debian |
| 13:37.14 | Mark17 | i just need to know if it is compatible |
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| 13:38.18 | hagisbasher | thanks Khades|Ru i didn't know there was a console version ,will apr-get install xchat get me it or does console ver have another name ? |
| 13:38.56 | Khades|Ru | hagisbasher: wait please) |
| 13:40.05 | hagisbasher | apt-get install xchat is no good :( |
| 13:41.34 | Khades|Ru | hagisbasher: I dont see console xchat in lenny:( |
| 13:41.56 | hagisbasher | i hve etch amd64 |
| 13:42.01 | Khades|Ru | dunno |
| 13:42.06 | Khades|Ru | but it will use gtk |
| 13:42.10 | maligor | use irssi instead? |
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| 13:42.15 | maligor | if you want a console irc client |
| 13:42.25 | Khades|Ru | irssi is VERY buggy in etch |
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| 13:42.55 | Khades|Ru | may be centericq |
| 13:42.57 | Pollero | Kamping_Kaiser: haha, yea defenatily. We run shell server with over 300 irssi instances. irssi uptimes over 100 days |
| 13:43.12 | Pollero | that was pointed to khades |
| 13:43.18 | OpenTokix | irssi owns |
| 13:43.22 | Pollero | yep |
| 13:43.40 | hagisbasher | how about for a new console user ? |
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| 13:44.15 | maligor | telnet irc.server 6667 for absolute stability |
| 13:44.33 | Pollero | :DDD |
| 13:44.35 | Khades|Ru | ) |
| 13:44.36 | hagisbasher | brb , going to try irssi |
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| 13:44.57 | Khades|Ru | grr I hate etch:( |
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| 13:45.24 | maligor | then there's also epic4 and ircii, bx seems to be missing here atleast |
| 13:45.31 | hagisbasheruk | hehe , i was using irssi :) |
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| 13:45.42 | Maulkin | !bitchx |
| 13:45.47 | Maulkin | hrm |
| 13:45.51 | Khades|Ru | there is Weechat |
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| 13:46.36 | voraistos | i just use ssh |
| 13:46.47 | hagisbasheruk | i guess i had better read the irssi docs to see how to jump between channels |
| 13:46.56 | Pollero | alt+number |
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| 13:47.06 | maligor | I guess bitchx is in etch |
| 13:47.09 | hagisbasheruk | :) |
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| 13:47.13 | Khades|Ru | alt+lesft\right |
| 13:47.19 | maligor | just not in lenny or sid |
| 13:47.22 | Maulkin | !bitchx is <reply>BitchX isn't in Debian anymore. (see http://bugs.debian.org/451373). Try irssi instead. |
| 13:47.22 | dpkg | ...but bitchx is already something else... |
| 13:47.27 | abrotman | yay! |
| 13:47.27 | Maulkin | !bitchx |
| 13:47.32 | abrotman | !bitchx Maulkin |
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| 13:47.35 | EvilGuru_ | I have been looking over the man pages for init, shutdown and halt but can not seem to work out how to shut the system down but without turning it off (so I can pull the plug on it and have it turn back on when I put the plug back in). Everything seem to imply turning off the system |
| 13:47.37 | abrotman | okay then |
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| 13:48.28 | SerajewelKS | EvilGuru_: 'shutdown now' |
| 13:48.28 | maligor | security reasons eh |
| 13:48.41 | Khades|Ru | aaa |
| 13:50.09 | Khades|Ru | i've tried to write "shutdown -h now" in crontab but error msg told me that there is no such command.What whould i do to make automatic shutdown in 4am? |
| 13:50.12 | hagisbasheruk | yay i like irssi now :) thanks for help folks , on more than one channel now YAY ! |
| 13:50.21 | Khades|Ru | ))) |
| 13:50.23 | ixnay | :P |
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| 13:51.46 | Maulkin | Khades|Ru: use 'at' |
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| 13:52.13 | mhymn | loves weechat too ;) |
| 13:52.43 | Khades|Ru | loves irssi more than wee-chat) |
| 13:52.46 | morbyte | Khades|Ru: is it possible that shutdown needs to be run as root? |
| 13:53.26 | Maulkin | !bitchx |
| 13:53.26 | dpkg | a old and unmaintained irc-client build on epic and ircII. As a Debian package, screwed up and not falling back to IPv4 when IPv6 ain't possible. It's not as good as <irssi> and needs less moronic /quit messages. If you are an irssi user who is annoyed by said /quit messages, see <bitchxignore>. Abandoned by its upstream authors, removed from Debian to resolve bug #451373 |
| 13:53.44 | Khades|Ru | I have written it in root crintab |
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| 13:54.07 | tecky | lol deb maintainers removed BX from the repos's ? |
| 13:54.09 | SeveredCross | morbyte: It's not possible, it's certain. |
| 13:54.20 | wfq | guys I have a printer connected to a windows XP in the office. I have installed cups which works really good for network printers but I don't find the way for this situation |
| 13:54.26 | wfq | any hint please? |
| 13:54.27 | Khades|Ru | What's BX? |
| 13:54.32 | tecky | BitchX |
| 13:55.10 | k0wabUng4 | reaaaally? |
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| 13:56.29 | Khades|Ru | firefox on Qt mmm.... |
| 13:56.30 | rwaite | hmm. would there be a way to use 'tee' only on the stderr? |
| 13:56.46 | rwaite | right now i'm appending the stderr to stdout and logging it all, but the stdout is useless really |
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| 13:57.59 | SerajewelKS | rwaite: iirc it's something like: command >/dev/null 2>&1 | tee ... |
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| 13:58.23 | rwaite | oh sorry, i'd still like the stdout and stderr to display on the console, but only wanna log the stderr |
| 13:58.58 | rwaite | is there a way to pipe only the stderr? |
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| 13:59.46 | minerale | I am pulling up a list of files using 'locate' -> how can I feed it to a shell script? for i in `locate foo` -> does not take care of spaces |
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| 14:00.27 | SerajewelKS | rwaite: from http://www.cpqlinux.com/redirect.html: command 3>&1 1>&2 2>&3 | tee ... |
| 14:00.53 | SerajewelKS | rwaite: GIYF :) |
| 14:01.38 | rwaite | i am googling right now!! but thanks man |
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| 14:01.52 | SerajewelKS | np |
| 14:01.55 | abrotman | Mark17: ftp://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/ |
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| 14:02.08 | LemensTS | i have a device with IP 192.168.1.5 plugged into my server, that i need to access its web admin from other computers. What would be a line to allow access to that with iptables? the main nic of the server is 192.168.1.2 |
| 14:02.39 | SerajewelKS | LemensTS: are you restricting access with iptables? |
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| 14:04.07 | LemensTS | They are empty right now, what other ways besides ip tables can you do to restrict packets...someone else set this server up... |
| 14:04.08 | cr3rzemjest | so... the whole screen is X? like, when my fluxbox is starting i see a "pure" Xwindow screen (the chessboard-like....) for a fraction of a second... |
| 14:04.34 | SerajewelKS | LemensTS: if your iptables are empty then access is not restricted and you don't need to do anything |
| 14:04.46 | SerajewelKS | LemensTS: unless you want to restrict access, and then you need to rephrase your question |
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| 14:05.28 | Khades|Ru | cr3rzemjest: ...then fbsetroot\fbsetbg changes rootwindow |
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| 14:06.42 | SerajewelKS | cr3rzemjest: X is the program that allows other programs to draw windows to the screen, so yes, everything GUI runs on X |
| 14:06.49 | SerajewelKS | (with few exceptions) |
| 14:07.08 | LemensTS | SerajewlKS: long story short, the 192.168.1.5 device is a Lacie externel HD that is plugged into the server via USB. It acts as a nic, it came up as eth2. I set static ip of eth2 to 192.168.1.5...now I need to access it via webadmin to configure it...the debian server doesnt have kde/gnome...so i was going to try to access it from another machine |
| 14:07.31 | SerajewelKS | LemensTS: ok, but what does that have to do with iptables? |
| 14:07.37 | morbyte | hi. i have installed lenny b2 amd64 successfully. (thumbs-up for the new installer). but if i doubleclick on any other partition in the nautilus computer view, it always tells me: not priviledged to mount volume... where do i have to put my hands on to change that? |
| 14:07.39 | Khades|Ru | X only draws images on framebuffer |
| 14:08.11 | jpinx | offtopic - but can anyone point me at how to recover my registered nick here - I've forgetton the password:( |
| 14:08.34 | Khades|Ru | And the GUI can be drawn with or without X |
| 14:08.35 | SerajewelKS | jpinx: #freenode |
| 14:08.45 | LemensTS | SerajewelKS: I can ping 192.168.1.5 from teh server itself, but not from other computers on the same lan as the server (eth1 of the server is on the same lan of the other computers) |
| 14:09.02 | SerajewelKS | Khades|Ru: indeed, but few programs do GUI on a raw fb, most use libX |
| 14:09.15 | SerajewelKS | or an abstraction layer like libgdk |
| 14:09.24 | Khades|Ru | or directfb |
| 14:10.00 | Khades|Ru | There is qtopia, FLtk, gtk2(with frabebuffer backend) |
| 14:10.07 | SerajewelKS | Khades|Ru: i would say the number of GUI programs that run on their own fb aside from X is pretty small... |
| 14:10.17 | SerajewelKS | Khades|Ru: anyway it's largely a theoretical point |
| 14:10.41 | SerajewelKS | LemensTS: yes, because you have not bridged the nics |
| 14:10.53 | SerajewelKS | LemensTS: they should not even be in the same subnet if you want your server to work right |
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| 14:11.36 | Khades|Ru | SerajewelKS:What means their own FB? they can use kernel FB |
| 14:11.53 | SerajewelKS | Khades|Ru: you know what i mean |
| 14:12.26 | SerajewelKS | LemensTS: you either need to reconfigure eth2 to be in a different subnet and enable routing, or bridge eth1 and eth2 on your server |
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| 14:12.58 | Steve____ | hello |
| 14:13.02 | Steve____ | and how would i get |
| 14:13.06 | Steve____ | erm |
| 14:13.11 | asg | !enter |
| 14:13.11 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. |
| 14:13.11 | SerajewelKS | !enter |
| 14:13.14 | SerajewelKS | Steve____: ^^^ |
| 14:13.26 | LemensTS | SerajewelKS: ok i will try that |
| 14:13.57 | Steve____ | ........... |
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| 14:13.59 | Steve____ | ip route add default nexthop via 10.8.1.2 dev tun1 weight 1 nexthop via 192.168.1.254 weight 1 table 6 |
| 14:14.05 | Steve____ | aprrently thats wrong |
| 14:14.14 | Steve____ | but i don't see a problem with the santax |
| 14:15.27 | zamba | i have installed debian etch using the software raid.. but how do i set up grub? |
| 14:15.52 | fireba11 | zamba: installer sets it up by itself |
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| 14:16.26 | zamba | fireba11: that's a negative |
| 14:16.28 | fireba11 | zamba: you might want to install grub on more than the first HD though .. you need to do that manually then |
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| 14:16.35 | zamba | fireba11: it doesn't |
| 14:16.55 | fireba11 | zamba: it did for me about 10 times ... that is every time i did set up a software raid |
| 14:16.56 | zamba | fireba11: it suggested setting up grub on the master boot record for the first hard drive |
| 14:17.04 | zamba | but when i then try to reboot, nothing happens |
| 14:17.29 | zamba | "nothing" meaning it tries all other options for booting and then ends up telling it can't find anything to boot from |
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| 14:17.49 | zamba | it's two s-ata drives |
| 14:18.29 | fireba11 | zamba: it worked with etch r0, r1 and r2 here .. |
| 14:18.38 | zamba | hm, ok.. i'll poke some more |
| 14:18.56 | SerajewelKS | boot issues are teh suck |
| 14:19.37 | fireba11 | zamba: only thing i had to do myself is setting up grub on other HDs ... in case the first Hd in raid 1 or 5 fails so i can still boot |
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| 14:28.20 | Steve____ | . |
| 14:29.46 | gouki | Is it just me or the Planet is down? |
| 14:30.08 | Maulkin | IT's probably down |
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| 14:30.18 | Maulkin | Lots of stuff is |
| 14:30.45 | k0wabUng4 | aha, it is true..why? |
| 14:31.01 | gouki | OK |
| 14:31.08 | gouki | Something wrong, Maulkin? |
| 14:31.25 | SerajewelKS | there is problem on the internets |
| 14:31.36 | rmrfchik | someone is wrong? |
| 14:32.00 | Maulkin | subnet outage |
| 14:32.10 | k0wabUng4 | in the internets of the world? hehe |
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| 14:32.45 | k0wabUng4 | just shooting, but it could be related to all that DNS mega hole? |
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| 14:33.33 | p3rti | if i say grupoid=`awk -F : '$1 == $usuario {print $4}' /etc/passwd` it dont show anything.. how i say to awk that takes usuario string? |
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| 14:36.56 | webPragmatist | ok my appologies but this is the third time i've asked this lol... how do you read a readme gz file ... i can't think of the command |
| 14:37.09 | webPragmatist | and it's impossible to google |
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| 14:38.37 | zamba | fireba11: nope.. i tried both the rescue mode (which didn't recognize the raid devices and only gave me the option of the physical underlying devices) and a complete reinstall (where i in addition went back and also specified the second hard drive (hd1) when setting up grub).. but it still won't boot |
| 14:38.43 | doubletwist | webPragmatist: zcat |
| 14:38.52 | p3rti | nobody can help me :( |
| 14:39.36 | doubletwist | p3rti: is it supposed to have a space between -F and :? |
| 14:39.50 | p3rti | doubletwist, yess |
| 14:40.25 | stew | p3rti: what is $usario? a shell variable? |
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| 14:41.01 | doubletwist | p3rti: I've never seen it done with a space after the -F. I think it has to be no space for one... |
| 14:41.03 | zamba | fireba11: the problem can't be that it's on s-ata drives? |
| 14:41.10 | asg | p3rti: #bash is another place you can ask |
| 14:41.11 | doubletwist | Not 100% sure on that though |
| 14:41.18 | p3rti | stew, $usuario is a variable from for usuario in `cat /root/listausuarios` |
| 14:41.18 | p3rti | it has a user login |
| 14:41.21 | p3rti | i want to get the gid from the login |
| 14:41.23 | fireba11 | zamba: nope, did this sucessfully on several systems with sata |
| 14:41.34 | SerajewelKS | how does rsync handle deleted files? |
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| 14:41.39 | stew | p3rti: your shell won't substitude its value since $usario is in single quotes |
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| 14:42.34 | stew | p3rti: and the value of $usarion should be in double quotes inside the awk script afaik |
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| 14:42.39 | p3rti | stew, how i change that? i think that is a dumb error.. my error |
| 14:42.40 | rmrfchik | _ZeuZ_: hi |
| 14:42.53 | rmrfchik | _ZeuZ_: i've fixed the sound. if u interested :) |
| 14:43.16 | stew | p3rti: awk -F : '$1 == "'$usarion'" {print $4}' /etc/passwd' |
| 14:43.30 | stew | err s/usarion/usario/ |
| 14:43.35 | p3rti | :) |
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| 14:44.04 | p3rti | thanks so MUCH stew |
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| 14:46.15 | stew | though what is probably better anyway is to run " getent passwd $usario | awk -F: '{print $4}' " |
| 14:46.23 | harpal | Hey I have increase my screen resolution to 1152x864, but I have highest resolution as 1280x800, so my display manager gdm takes resolution 1280x800, why? |
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| 14:47.23 | stew | or just "id -g $usario" |
| 14:47.41 | stew | p3rti: ^ |
| 14:47.48 | LemensTS | SerajewelKS: ok eth 1: 192.168.1.2 is connected to the lan. eth 2: 192.168.1.5 is the Lacie device connected to it. How do i bridge the 2, with traffic knowing to go out eth1? Do i use 'bridge-utils' to do this |
| 14:48.06 | p3rti | mmm thats true.. i'm noob i'm learning :D |
| 14:48.14 | petemc | awk -F: '/usario/{print $4}' /etc/passwd |
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| 14:49.11 | stew | petemc: usario is a shell variable |
| 14:49.28 | petemc | ah |
| 14:50.14 | SerajewelKS | LemensTS: roughly speaking, yes |
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| 14:50.30 | SerajewelKS | LemensTS: what happens is the two interfaces are absorbed into a new bridge interface and deconfigured |
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| 14:50.43 | SerajewelKS | LemensTS: the bridge interface is configured with one IP address (probably the one of the server) |
| 14:51.12 | SerajewelKS | LemensTS: so it will be 192.168.1.2 from both sides of the bridge. your box will then forward ethernet packets through the bridge. |
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| 14:51.47 | SerajewelKS | LemensTS: eth1 and eth2 will no longer have IP addresses |
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| 14:52.20 | SerajewelKS | LemensTS: do you know if eth2 is an ethernet device or a ppp device? |
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| 14:53.27 | LemensTS | eth2 is a Lacie drive, that is plugged in via USB. But it shows up as a network card. |
| 14:53.36 | LemensTS | Lacie drive = harddrive |
| 14:53.43 | SerajewelKS | yes, but an ethernet interface or a ppp interface or... |
| 14:54.07 | SerajewelKS | and what address does the drive have? |
| 14:54.16 | LemensTS | Serajewl: link encap:Ethernet |
| 14:54.35 | LemensTS | SerajewelKS: ip or mac? |
| 14:54.42 | SerajewelKS | LemensTS: ip |
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| 14:55.40 | LemensTS | SerajewlKS: 192.168.1.5 |
| 14:55.46 | SerajewelKS | LemensTS: no |
| 14:55.51 | SerajewelKS | LemensTS: that is the address your computer has |
| 14:55.57 | SerajewelKS | LemensTS: what address does the drive have |
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| 14:57.13 | roe_ | I have a raid 5, md0, there are 5 disks, sd[a-e] (1 hot spare), somehow one of the sata cables came unplugged, but when I plug the cable back in it is coming up as sdf, how do I fix this |
| 14:57.49 | LemensTS | Serajewl: the lace drive has an ip of 192.168.1.5 that i assigned as eth2. I dont think it has an IP thru usb, maybe thru ethernet it does |
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| 14:58.09 | SerajewelKS | LemensTS: you are confused |
| 14:58.18 | SerajewelKS | LemensTS: eth2 has an address of 192.168.1.5 |
| 14:58.41 | SerajewelKS | LemensTS: the drive has its own address. when you change the address assigned to eth1, do all the other computers or your lan suddenly have that address? |
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| 14:59.27 | LemensTS | Serajewel: No this server is not a dhcp server. |
| 14:59.33 | veo | Hello |
| 14:59.34 | SerajewelKS | *plonk* |
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| 14:59.53 | SerajewelKS | LemensTS: that's not what i asked |
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| 15:00.11 | SerajewelKS | LemensTS: if you set the IP address on eth1, do other computers on your LAN all of a sudden think they have that address too? |
| 15:00.18 | SerajewelKS | LemensTS: (hint: no) |
| 15:00.43 | SerajewelKS | LemensTS: for the same reason, setting the address on eth2 does not change the address the drive responds to. it changes your computer's address on that connection. |
| 15:00.51 | veo | I have a small question, I'm using vmware server on Etch, and for remote identification it's using unix's pam file for access. I'm not familiar with it and i'd like to use other login/pass than my system ones |
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| 15:01.01 | SerajewelKS | LemensTS: the drive has its own address |
| 15:01.13 | Sysctl___ | sorry guys, tried the xen channel, but everyone is asleep: in order to performe a xen migration (offline in this instance), what steps do i need to take? does the target server require an image? will files in the host dom be copied to the target dom? |
| 15:01.22 | LemensTS | SerajewelKS: eth1 is static, with gateway to the dhcp server. If eth1 ip changes, then it will of course be broadcasted to the rest of the lan. |
| 15:01.38 | SerajewelKS | LemensTS: no it will not |
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| 15:01.46 | keith4 | veo: i think you're SOL |
| 15:02.01 | veo | Sysctl___, > just copy the config files, et the files from your vms and voila |
| 15:02.06 | jawbrkr | trying to get my usb mouse working on top of my touchpad, it was working until I changed my touchpad to the synaptics driver, my touch pad is perfect, tap works, scrolling works, but it just doesn't pick up my usb mouse anymore |
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| 15:02.12 | veo | you can just xen create again using the .cfg |
| 15:02.15 | SerajewelKS | LemensTS: well in a manner of speaking, yes, ARP will broadcast it |
| 15:02.21 | SerajewelKS | LemensTS: let me try this |
| 15:02.26 | Sysctl___ | veo: will files in the virtuial machine be copied across tho? |
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| 15:02.40 | veo | If you use loop back image yes |
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| 15:02.44 | SerajewelKS | LemensTS: if you assign the address 1.2.3.4 to eth1 statically from the box itself, will every other computer on the LAN think *it* is 1.2.3.4 *too*? |
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| 15:03.07 | veo | if it's on an phy: interface, have to manualy copy everything |
| 15:03.25 | Sysctl___ | i believe so, im just using a plain vanilla debian etch xen 2.6.18-6 vserver |
| 15:03.49 | veo | vserver or xen ? :o |
| 15:03.53 | jelly-home | veo: perhaps something like libpam-pwdfile would do |
| 15:03.53 | SerajewelKS | LemensTS: my point is that network interfaces are one-to-many. changing the address of one interface doesn't affect the other network devices. |
| 15:04.07 | SerajewelKS | LemensTS: in the case of your drive it is one-to-one. your computer has a network interface (eth2) and *so does the drive* |
| 15:04.15 | SerajewelKS | LemensTS: and they are *not the same* |
| 15:04.20 | keith4 | veo: you're probably stuck using pam. but you are free, of course, to point pam at whatever backend you want, for auth |
| 15:04.35 | SerajewelKS | LemensTS: pretend your computer has a physical network card, so does the drive, and they are linked by a crossover cable |
| 15:04.42 | Sysctl___ | veo: vserver with the xen hypervisor |
| 15:04.42 | veo | jelly-home, yeah but i don't really know how to use them (quite a rookie with pam and man is not helping much) |
| 15:04.44 | SerajewelKS | LemensTS: that's the best approximation to the situation |
| 15:05.04 | LemensTS | SerajewelKS: yea i know what your saying. I have no idea what the ip of the hd is |
| 15:05.15 | SerajewelKS | LemensTS: that's the first thing you need to figure out |
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| 15:05.48 | veo | go in /etc/xen/ and look for .cfg files for your vm, look if for disk it's phy: or file: or tap: |
| 15:06.17 | Sysctl___ | veo: file |
| 15:06.22 | veo | so you're good to go |
| 15:06.39 | veo | just copy the whole /etc/xen folder over |
| 15:06.54 | Sysctl___ | i just need to make sure the xen configs are available, but i dont necessarily need to create the disk images then? |
| 15:06.58 | veo | and the vm files that go with it |
| 15:08.01 | veo | after your file: you have 2 files usualy, one for systeme, one for swap, copy them too that's all |
| 15:08.21 | veo | if you put them somewhere else, just change it in the .cfg file, that's all |
| 15:08.27 | Sysctl___ | veo: gotcha, how would that work if you're doing a live migration then? |
| 15:08.39 | Sysctl___ | veo: since the disk image is being used |
| 15:09.29 | veo | file: is using the ram if i'm not wrong and don't write all the time to disk |
| 15:09.41 | veo | so it's not very suitable for live migration |
| 15:09.54 | Sysctl___ | what would be better for live migration? |
| 15:10.01 | veo | since you'll loose some of the data |
| 15:10.10 | Sysctl___ | yeh, kinda want to avoid that |
| 15:10.40 | veo | using raid system? |
| 15:11.30 | Sysctl___ | shared across phsyical servers... |
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| 15:12.29 | veo | i would have close them for the migration, maybe somebody got another solution. sorry |
| 15:12.39 | jelly-home | veo: me neither, but README and README.Debian have a few examples of how to use it (with system users, but a different password database) |
| 15:12.44 | Sysctl___ | veo: thats ok, thanks tho |
| 15:12.52 | Sysctl___ | jelly: will check |
| 15:13.25 | veo | jelly-home> Gonna check a bit, thanks |
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| 15:13.58 | sts | i'm trying to integrate openvz into my FAI install system. does anybody know if there is a virtual package for the kernel, which will install linux-image-2.6.18-12-fza-686? |
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| 15:17.17 | DawnLigh1 | wtf is fza? |
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| 15:19.22 | sts | DawnLigh1: eww. suppose this is the wrong channel.... the package is provided by debian.systs.org |
| 15:20.01 | telmich | hmm |
| 15:20.04 | telmich | libuuid is broken |
| 15:20.09 | telmich | and has no maintainer :-( |
| 15:20.34 | ttick | I'm trying to get libc6 uptodate, but during the apt-get install (actually apt-get -f install) Perl croaks on me: Can't locate Scalar/Util.pm in @INC . . . (Perl is obviously misconfiged, possibly because of libc6). Any hints on how to fix this? |
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| 15:20.48 | telmich | https://nopaste.eof.name/755 |
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| 15:22.29 | stew | ttick: what version of debian is this? |
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| 15:23.19 | ttick | testing |
| 15:23.21 | stew | ttick: and what version of perl/libc6 |
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| 15:24.24 | ttick | perl, v5.10.0, libc: Preparing to replace libc6 2.7-12 (using .../archives/libc6_2.7-13_i386.deb) |
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| 15:25.27 | veo | Well seems like pam_userdb will do the trick |
| 15:25.56 | stew | ttick: does /usr/lib/perl/5.10.0/Scalar/Util.pm exist? |
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| 15:28.19 | ttick | nope |
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| 15:32.31 | ttick | so, any suggestions on how to repair the problem? |
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| 15:35.08 | hagisbasheruk | anyone here in the UK using Etch AMD64 4.0r4 ? |
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| 15:36.28 | keith4 | !ask |
| 15:36.28 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 15:39.35 | hagisbasheruk | thanks keith4 , i need a sources list for non-free contrib to get my Nvidia GF8600 working |
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| 15:40.56 | Strog576 | what was the command to make a password agian?!?!?? |
| 15:41.04 | roe_ | passwd? |
| 15:41.13 | Strog576 | and not ldappasswd? |
| 15:41.24 | keith4 | hagisbasheruk: http://www.debian.org/mirror/list ? |
| 15:41.33 | roe_ | make one? like a password generator? |
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| 15:48.23 | phanter | hi there... |
| 15:48.46 | phanter | since this week I switched back from ubuntu to debian :)... I hope I am still welcome in the family... |
| 15:49.28 | liable | no |
| 15:49.31 | liable | :P |
| 15:50.04 | |fluxdude| | something I don't understand... I have an amd64 debian stock kernel on a server with 16GB of ram, yet it seems only 3GB... what's going on? |
| 15:50.22 | phanter | now I run into a small problem. I added the backports repository and tried to install flash-nonfree in iceweasel. The problem is that the installation "crashes", meaning it will never finish and I have to stoip it with ctrl-c... |
| 15:50.29 | |fluxdude| | there are no grub boot flags to the xen hypervisor or kernel to tell it to restrict itself to this much.... |
| 15:50.31 | phanter | fluxdude: are you on 64bit? |
| 15:50.39 | mbroeker | it sounds like kissing another woman infront of his boyfriend, phanter :) |
| 15:50.39 | |fluxdude| | yes |
| 15:51.09 | |fluxdude| | well, it's an amd64 kernel so I guess so, uname confirms x86_64 |
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| 15:51.17 | phanter | hahaha, well... as long as the lady I end up kissing is nicer then the one I left it is oke is... isn't it ;) |
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| 15:51.47 | runa | heyas. any tool to keep 2 dirs synched? like poor man's raid0? |
| 15:51.54 | barnum | not nessicarily you have to factor hotness and crazyness together to decide if its workable |
| 15:51.56 | xerophyte | i need to remove /dev folder from xen instance mount its says permission denied .. does anybody know how can i remove that folder ? |
| 15:52.12 | mbroeker | phanter :) |
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| 15:52.50 | |fluxdude| | xerophyte: it must be in use... unmount dev... perhaps stop the xen guest and then mount it's fs and remove /dev. but why would you want to do this? |
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| 15:53.52 | xerophyte | fluxdude: i need to clean the mount .. resync it its not in use |
| 15:54.24 | Bleet` | so im installing debian on my laptop and it tells me it couldnt detect any ethernetcard. it asks me to choose a driver from a list that goes with my card |
| 15:54.33 | Bleet` | when i do that it brings me back to the list like nothing happened |
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| 15:55.17 | Bleet` | anyone knows whats up with that? |
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| 15:56.14 | xerophyte | fluxdude: its stall save permission denied .. the domu is stopped for tha tmount |
| 15:56.20 | abrotman | it doesn't actually drive your card? |
| 15:56.30 | phanter | oke, so actually I do not mind to not-use the flash plugin, but I would like to get apt working normally again. How can I do this ? |
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| 15:57.31 | Bleet` | lol |
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| 15:58.38 | Bleet` | can anyone help me? i got some problems with my debian install |
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| 15:59.05 | abrotman | Bleet`: which NIC do you have? |
| 15:59.08 | liable | bolt_: what does it say in vt4 when you chose the module, and what card and module is it? |
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| 15:59.35 | Bleet` | to be honest, I dont know. But I know what driver it needs. |
| 15:59.42 | Bleet` | I can look it up though, gimme a sec. |
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| 16:01.03 | Bleet` | Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG (802.11 a/b/g), Bluetooth 2.0, InfraRed |
| 16:01.13 | ndo | Hi guys, ive a question. Ive installed testing Lenny, and after reboot i get textbased login. But i have selected Desctop to be installed. So why do i get text based login then? Anyone plz, ty. :) |
| 16:01.17 | liable | thats not ethernet |
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| 16:01.40 | Bleet` | doesnt really say anything about the ethernet |
| 16:01.42 | |fluxdude| | does anyone understand how a debian amd64 xen kernel cannot detect more than 3GB out of 16GB of ram? |
| 16:01.43 | newsense | ndo. did ya install kdm gdm or xdm ? |
| 16:01.56 | phanter | ndo: how sure are you that you did not unselect that option? It happens sometimes |
| 16:02.05 | |fluxdude| | also... what is the difference between the amd64 xen kernel and the amd64 vserver xen kernel? |
| 16:02.08 | liable | Bleet`: and which module are you loading? |
| 16:02.27 | phanter | try to log in and type 'startx'. If that works thanonly xdm/gdm/kdm is not wroking |
| 16:03.07 | Bleet` | you mean which driver? Intel pro/1000 |
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| 16:03.45 | ndo | when i installed, in the installer at one step there wsas basic system and desktop as i remember, ive let them two sellected and proceed with install. and then i rebooted and got text based login. |
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| 16:04.10 | liable | Bleet`: switch to vt2 and run lspci to see what your ethernet is. (i think installer has it, and i am fairly sure you should have a e1000 ethernet, but something odd is obviously going on) |
| 16:04.11 | phanter | ndo: as said. Try to log in and type startx and see if anything happens |
| 16:04.36 | phanter | otherwise we can help you getting x working with your favourite window manager... |
| 16:04.39 | ndo | tryed it, and got it started, and used it, twmi guess |
| 16:04.52 | ndo | but why dont it start like etch with gui |
| 16:04.54 | ndo | ? |
| 16:05.06 | phanter | ndo: then check if you have installed xdm/gdm/kdm... tell us if they are installed |
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| 16:05.18 | Bleet` | how do i switch to vt2 |
| 16:05.25 | abrotman | ctrl-alt-f2 |
| 16:05.27 | xerophyte | fluxdude: found it .. its was fs mount issue |
| 16:05.34 | newsense | cntrl+alt+f2 |
| 16:05.35 | ndo | aptitude install gdm right? |
| 16:05.41 | Mark17 | is it possible to give a delay to a reboot? |
| 16:05.42 | liable | just alt-f2 actually |
| 16:05.46 | phanter | ndo: as you wish :) yes |
| 16:05.47 | ndo | why isnt it installed already? |
| 16:05.49 | wfq | hi guys |
| 16:05.50 | newsense | err slow typing today |
| 16:05.52 | abrotman | Mark17: delay in what sense |
| 16:05.56 | newsense | gets more coffee |
| 16:06.05 | phanter | ndo: dunno... I cannot see your screen and if there where any errors during the instal |
| 16:06.25 | wfq | is there anyone here from The UK that could tell me which his/her dns server is? |
| 16:06.27 | Mark17 | i say: reboot |
| 16:06.44 | Mark17 | that it waits for 15 seconds for example before really starting to reboot |
| 16:06.51 | abrotman | Mark17: man shutdown |
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| 16:06.54 | ndo | hmm, there was one i guess while booting for installation or rebooting |
| 16:06.58 | Bleet` | ethernet controller: intel corporation 82573l gigabit ethernet controller |
| 16:07.12 | Mark17 | or is it possible to delay a script between 2 commands (using bash)? |
| 16:07.13 | ndo | im on a mac mini so.. i dunno if intell gfx is supported |
| 16:07.52 | phanter | ndo: what did aptitude tell you about the gdm? |
| 16:07.53 | asg | Mark17: man shutdown (-r and the [time] portions should be of interest) |
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| 16:08.07 | ndo | with etch i had and a half ive got a successfullinstall but lenny not |
| 16:08.18 | |fluxdude| | wfq: 127.0.0.1 |
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| 16:08.24 | Bleet` | and how do i exit vt2? |
| 16:08.27 | phanter | ndo: well, if your x is working with startx then it should be working with gdm |
| 16:08.32 | ndo | havent triedt aptitude gdm yet |
| 16:08.47 | wfq | |fluxdude| british humor... good :) |
| 16:08.50 | ndo | oke i go to try it, have to reboot |
| 16:08.51 | alex_ | when i do a ps aux - it shows me the date a process has started, is there anyway to find out the time it started also? |
| 16:09.00 | phanter | ndo: good luck |
| 16:09.05 | ndo | ty hf |
| 16:09.12 | Mark17 | asg: time is in minutes if i see it correct |
| 16:09.17 | Mark17 | 15 or 30 seconds is enough |
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| 16:09.42 | asg | Mark17: it has different formats, keep reading the manpage |
| 16:09.55 | Bleet` | How do I exit vt2 |
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| 16:10.07 | asg | Mark17: or you could do 'sleep 15 ; /sbin/reboot' |
| 16:10.18 | beardy | Bleet`: 'exitä |
| 16:10.23 | beardy | 'exit' |
| 16:10.38 | Bleet` | ya and then what >_> |
| 16:10.45 | beardy | Then what what? |
| 16:10.46 | morbyte | how to configure nautilus to allow the current user to mount external / (unmounted) internal harddrives? |
| 16:10.47 | jerome | hi there, as I noticed Tim Dijkstra uploaded new uswsusp pkg on unstable I went on upgrading my nc2400 lappy which never managed to resume from s2ram. Unfortunatly, the problem remains : latptop is dead on resume, after some disk activity, screen is black, network unresponsive and capslock uneffective. Any idea / same experience with an hp compaq laptop ? |
| 16:10.57 | Bleet` | it doesnt bring me back to the debian installer |
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| 16:11.09 | Bleet` | it just says please press enter to activate this console |
| 16:11.13 | asg | Bleet`: did you try alt-f1 |
| 16:11.22 | phanter | anyone who can help me fixing apt? |
| 16:11.24 | Bleet` | no but tyvm |
| 16:11.30 | beardy | Bleet`: ... no, that is not what one thinks when you say exit it, just swap back to vt1. |
| 16:11.37 | jerome | morbyte: add this user to plugdev group I think, gnome volume manager should do th rest |
| 16:11.42 | Bleet` | ah |
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| 16:12.32 | Bleet` | so yeah liable.. did you get it? |
| 16:13.30 | liable | Bleet`: get what? |
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| 16:14.03 | morbyte | jerome: i already am in there. and i also have g-v-m... |
| 16:14.11 | Bleet` | you told me to check what my ethernet is.. ethernet controller: intel corporation 82573l gigabit ethernet controller |
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| 16:15.01 | morbyte | jerome: but when i click it in nautilus, i get "You are not privileged to mount the volume 'ComVis'." |
| 16:15.01 | liable | Bleet`: hmm, i havent heard of that one. are you installing etch? i think you need a newer kernel. what does google say? |
| 16:15.21 | morbyte | jerome: are there other places where to configure it? |
| 16:15.49 | morbyte | jerome: ps: im on lenny b2 |
| 16:15.54 | liable | Bleet`: thinkpad? |
| 16:15.58 | xlotlu | why would module-assistant remove debian/control and then fail because it doesn't exist? |
| 16:16.07 | ttick | okay, I'm still having trouble getting apt-get to install libc6 (Preparing to replace libc6 2.7-12 (using .../archives/libc6_2.7-13_i386.deb)) because my perl install is corrupt (Can't locate Scalar/Util.pm in @INC) because it doesn't exist. This is for 'testing'. Any suggestions on the resolution? |
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| 16:16.22 | jerome | morbyte: did logout befoore you get your user added to plugedv ? |
| 16:16.26 | Bleet` | yes |
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| 16:17.01 | Bleet` | and google doesnt help me much as usual.. |
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| 16:17.17 | liable | Bleet`: e1000 looks to support it actually |
| 16:17.22 | morbyte | jerome: yes. i was in plugdev group from the very beginning... but ... does it matter if its internal sata or external usb to the plugdev group? |
| 16:17.49 | liable | Bleet`: switch back to vt2, do "modprobe e1000" then type "dmesg" and see what it says |
| 16:17.56 | liable | back in 5 |
| 16:18.10 | simNIX | I just switched to Debian for my desktop. I've added Thunderbird succesfully using synaptic. From console I can start thunderbird but I can't locate it in my 'start' menu. How can I add links to menu ? Odd thing is when I've added FilleZilla it does show up in menu |
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| 16:18.53 | simNIX | (under Internet) |
| 16:19.27 | screamingbytes | anyone know where bootsplash-3.3-6 is available at? |
| 16:19.37 | screamingbytes | for etch specifically |
| 16:20.04 | |fluxdude| | xerophyte: thought so, it usually is... |
| 16:20.38 | Bleet` | liable tell me when you're back |
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| 16:23.39 | jerome | simNIX: you can use the .desktop file in /usr/share/applications |
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| 16:25.12 | cahoot | Bleet`: does the nic show up in ifconfig -a now? |
| 16:25.18 | jerome | for instance, evolution has categories : =GNOME;GTK;Office;Email;Calendar;ContactManagement;X-Red-Hat-Base; |
| 16:25.37 | jerome | which makes it appear in the "Office" category of your menu. |
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| 16:26.29 | Bleet` | well |
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| 16:26.52 | simNIX | ty Jerome |
| 16:26.58 | morbyte | jerome: i think i got it. the debian readme seems to tell that it only works for really pluggable drives (real usb/firewire) and seems to require /etc/fstab entries for all internal sata drives... |
| 16:27.07 | Bleet` | I decided to finnish the installation skipping the ethernet set up, so i could leave it for later |
| 16:27.09 | Bleet` | and now it's done |
| 16:27.21 | Bleet` | and I cant figure out where to type the modprobe e1000 now |
| 16:27.52 | jerome | morbyte: then add "users" to your fstab line. (and noauto if it's intented to be hot pluggable) |
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| 16:28.18 | cahoot | Bleet`: can you switch to another terminal with alt-f2 or such? |
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| 16:29.07 | Bleet` | yeah |
| 16:29.12 | morbyte | jerome: i still have to add each and every partition? or where shall i add "users"? |
| 16:29.14 | Bleet` | but it says modprobe is an unkown command |
| 16:29.23 | cahoot | Bleet`: su to root |
| 16:29.32 | Bleet` | k |
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| 16:31.38 | Bleet` | wow wth |
| 16:31.41 | jerome | morbyte: I'm afraid you'll have to add a specific line in fstab for every partition you wish your users to be able to mount. |
| 16:31.49 | Bleet` | says im not in the sudeors file |
| 16:31.54 | jair | I can expect errors if I am using putty to transfer files from a windows xp machine to debian? |
| 16:31.57 | Bleet` | sudoers* |
| 16:31.57 | jerome | (and specify decent options for each of them) |
| 16:32.01 | cahoot | Bleet`: su |
| 16:32.27 | jair | I am sure that I will not do that I will do it from my debian machine or just use a live cd and boot the machine then do the scp or rsync. |
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| 16:32.36 | morbyte | jerome: lucky me has a crashed ubuntu which still has /etc |
| 16:33.05 | jair | but I am just trying to see if there are things we need to know about sftp, scp, rsync, and ftp. |
| 16:33.22 | Bleet` | that brings me to the root terminal right? |
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| 16:33.30 | jair | either using then on debian to debian or from other platforms or linux distros to debian |
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| 16:34.18 | jerome | putty is a terminal emulator and an ssh client, i can't remember it does scp or sftp |
| 16:35.31 | Bleet` | and what am i looking for in dmesg |
| 16:35.33 | jair | jerome: I need to check that I do not remember if putty itself emulate that I know that there is something called cwing |
| 16:35.39 | jair | or something like that |
| 16:35.44 | jair | and also hummingbird |
| 16:35.48 | jair | I do not remember |
| 16:35.54 | jair | I apologize for my spelling |
| 16:36.08 | jair | I just don't care on using those emulator things |
| 16:36.10 | cahoot | Bleet`: now modprobe e1000 |
| 16:36.37 | Bleet` | i did |
| 16:36.37 | cahoot | Bleet`: error? |
| 16:36.49 | Bleet` | it doesnt say anything after do modprobe |
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| 16:36.57 | BramuS | what does this mean: /lib/modules/2.6.18-6-686/build no such file or directory |
| 16:36.59 | cahoot | Bleet`: now ifconfig -a |
| 16:37.38 | Bleet` | ok |
| 16:38.01 | cahoot | Bleet`: does the nic show up in ifconfig -a now? |
| 16:38.10 | Bleet` | nope |
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| 16:38.24 | Bleet` | but i think i saw the drivers name in dmesg before |
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| 16:39.58 | screamingbytes | Anyone have any idea where i can get bootsplash-3.3-6 for etch? |
| 16:40.57 | Bleet` | ya i see intel pro/1000 network driver |
| 16:40.57 | plb_ | I've accidently deleted my apache2 sites-available/default =\ how can I find or generate a new one? |
| 16:40.57 | Bleet` | in dmesg |
| 16:41.06 | cahoot | Bleet`: ls /sys/class/net - what devices are shown? |
| 16:41.12 | screamingbytes | plb_: just create a generic html |
| 16:41.23 | phanter | hmm, i manually removed all the files and the text in the aptdb. Not the best solution I guess, but did not know what else to do :( |
| 16:41.51 | Bleet` | irda0 lo sit0 |
| 16:41.51 | plb_ | there is no way to get back the default...worked fine |
| 16:41.54 | plb_ | ? |
| 16:42.01 | Bleet` | is what it says lol |
| 16:42.15 | cahoot | Bleet`: right - no eth* |
| 16:42.23 | BramuS | what does this mean: /lib/modules/2.6.18-6-686/build no such file or directory |
| 16:42.26 | BramuS | and how can i fix it? |
| 16:42.31 | screamingbytes | plb_: no there is no native undelete, if you removed it its gone |
| 16:42.41 | screamingbytes | plb_: but its just a web page |
| 16:42.41 | liable | BramuS: install headers for your kernel |
| 16:42.49 | BramuS | liable how can i do that? |
| 16:42.49 | cahoot | Bleet`: lsmod|grep e100 turns up the modprbed module? |
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| 16:43.17 | screamingbytes | plb_: you can search the apache2 website for default website contents |
| 16:43.35 | plb_ | i've found one thanks |
| 16:43.37 | Bleet` | well i dont know what its supposed to look like |
| 16:43.43 | screamingbytes | plb_: good deal |
| 16:43.53 | newsense | Bleet`: http://sourceforge.net/projects/e1000 this help any, just googled and came across it |
| 16:43.54 | Bleet` | but it brings me e1000 108832 0 |
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| 16:44.05 | idimmu | plb_: just extract the apache deb package using ar (its like tar but for pirates) then extract the data.tar.gz inside and whip out the default file you deleted ? |
| 16:44.19 | cahoot | Bleet`: ok so the module is loaded but seems it's not really the one you need |
| 16:44.50 | plb_ | that's what I was looking for but now I already have the file heh but thanks |
| 16:45.47 | liable | BramuS: apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 16:45.48 | Bleet` | great. |
| 16:46.35 | liable | Bleet`: the card works in windows? you sure its enabled in bios? |
| 16:46.39 | cahoot | Bleet`: can you post its pciid? it's like xxxx:xxxx |
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| 16:47.00 | Bleet` | yea it works in windows. i downloaded debian on my laptop |
| 16:47.25 | Bleet` | where do i get the pciid |
| 16:47.31 | cahoot | lspci |
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| 16:48.01 | jair | people sometimes use windows without understanding things about linux :( |
| 16:48.17 | liable | thats not the problem. |
| 16:48.18 | Bleet` | 02.00.0 |
| 16:48.26 | jair | then they think that everything works as the crappy windows stuff |
| 16:48.39 | slayton | when building a deb what determines if the deb requires a restart after installation? |
| 16:49.07 | Bleet` | yeah 02.00.0 is for the ethernet controller |
| 16:49.08 | cahoot | Bleet`: try lspci -vn | grep 02.00 |
| 16:49.10 | newsense | kernel package or grub package |
| 16:49.17 | Bleet` | k |
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| 16:49.44 | Bleet` | done |
| 16:50.06 | jerome | udev and libc would be good candidates. |
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| 16:50.11 | jerome | (too) |
| 16:50.37 | cahoot | Bleet`: something like 00:19.0 0200: 8086:1049 (rev 03) returned? |
| 16:50.55 | BramuS | thanks liable |
| 16:50.57 | BramuS | just installed |
| 16:51.03 | BramuS | now i can build the wlan linux drivers |
| 16:51.13 | BramuS | but network manager doesnt find the wlan interface |
| 16:51.17 | Bleet` | i/o behind bridge: 0002000-00002fff |
| 16:51.18 | BramuS | while i can see it with ifconfig |
| 16:51.29 | Bleet` | 02:00.0 0200: 8086:109a |
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| 16:51.37 | Bleet` | is what it returned |
| 16:51.58 | cahoot | Bleet`: ok 8086:109a is the pciid |
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| 16:52.16 | Bleet` | ok so what do i do with it? :P |
| 16:52.30 | AC97 | anyone had a problem when installing debian with r8168/r8111 network card using r8169 module? |
| 16:53.16 | cahoot | Bleet`: looks like you need a module called e1000e |
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| 16:53.29 | Bleet` | oh |
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| 16:53.55 | Bleet` | ok ill download it and run it |
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| 16:54.13 | cahoot | Bleet`: a cursory glance at google seems to point to kernel 2.6.26 and later |
| 16:55.13 | Bleet` | I dont really know much about software, so what does that mean? |
| 16:55.40 | cahoot | Bleet`: your hw is so new it needs a very fresh kernel |
| 16:56.08 | Bleet` | how do I get a newer kernel? |
| 16:56.17 | Bleet` | or how do I check what version i have to begin with lol |
| 16:56.24 | cahoot | Bleet`: uname -r |
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| 16:56.40 | Bleet` | 2.6.18 |
| 16:56.45 | Bleet` | guess i need a newer |
| 16:56.50 | defrysk | sounds like an etch |
| 16:56.55 | defrysk | you need a sid |
| 16:56.58 | Lycurgus | Bleet: I've only ever recompiled it or installed a new distro |
| 16:56.58 | ttick | okay, I'm still having trouble getting apt-get to install libc6 (Preparing to replace libc6 2.7-12 (using .../archives/libc6_2.7-13_i386.deb)) because my perl install is corrupt (Can't locate Scalar/Util.pm in @INC) because it doesn't exist. This is for 'testing'. Any suggestions on the resolution? |
| 16:57.18 | Lycurgus | but dpkg can prolly update |
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| 16:57.34 | stew | ttick: sounds like you need to reinstall perl-base |
| 16:57.51 | Bleet` | yeah but i need internet for dpkg right? |
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| 16:58.08 | infinitycircuit | Bleet`: not for dpkg by itself |
| 16:58.09 | ttick | stew: okay, I'll try that |
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| 16:58.45 | Lycurgus | but prolly for the new kernel |
| 16:59.03 | stew | Bleet`: 2.6.18 claims to support that card, are you sure it doesn't? |
| 16:59.17 | ttick | stew: heh, unmet dependencies: libc6-dev: Depends: libc6 (= 2.7-13) but 2.7-12, perl: Depends: perl-base (= 5.10.0-11.1) but 5.10.0-12 is to be installed |
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| 16:59.30 | Bleet` | well let me run the driver, i just need to find my stupid usb stick |
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| 16:59.46 | ttick | stew: kinda in a circular situation here. |
| 17:00.04 | stew | ttick: you can remove libc6-dev for now. you'll either need to isntall perl 5.10.0-12 or reinstall perl-base 5.10.0-11.1 |
| 17:00.20 | stew | Bleet`: "run the driver"? |
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| 17:00.34 | stew | Bleet`: have you tried "modprobe e1000"? |
| 17:00.56 | cahoot | the pciid point to e1000e |
| 17:00.59 | Bleet` | apparently i need 1000e |
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| 17:01.24 | stew | i was going on "e1000 0x00008086 0x0000109a 0xffffffff 0xffffffff 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x0" |
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| 17:02.08 | Bleet` | but yes, i have tried modprobe e1000 |
| 17:02.18 | Bleet` | not that i really know what it's supposed to do but they told me it didnt work |
| 17:02.19 | cahoot | loading e1000 doesn't make it show up |
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| 17:07.12 | newsense | e1000e ? |
| 17:07.54 | newsense | meybe thats what ya need, just a guess |
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| 17:09.12 | ugly | I'm trying to install a 32-bit chroot system with debootstrap on my amd64 system, but after running the command, deboostrap immediately exits without downloading any packages nor giving any error messages. I'm using the command: ebootstrap -arch i386 sid /var/chroot/sid-ia32 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ |
| 17:09.17 | ugly | what could be wrong? |
| 17:09.31 | ugly | *deboostrap |
| 17:09.41 | ugly | *debootstrap |
| 17:09.42 | ugly | :P |
| 17:10.22 | ttick | stew: I'm trying to remove libc6-dev, and I'm following the depends trail: apt-get remove libstdc++6-4.1-dev g++ libc6-dev. But still it's giving me the unmed depend error. |
| 17:10.36 | ugly | oh, needed two dashes on --arch, bleh - *slaps self* |
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| 17:10.54 | ttick | stew: should I just force it to remove libc6-dev and just remember to install it again before I use g++? |
| 17:12.33 | stew | ttick: you would only need libc6-dev to compile something. i'm saying that if it is causing problems, you can just remove it for now, and "aptitude install build-essential" after you sort through your perl problems if you need to compile something |
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| 17:13.22 | ttick | stew: yes, I'm trying to apt-get remove libc6-dev, but it's not letting me. Should I just force it, I guess? |
| 17:13.51 | stew | ttick: no, don't force anything |
| 17:14.20 | stew | ttick: you could also install libc6-dev 2.7-12 for now |
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| 17:14.39 | ttick | okay, I'll try that |
| 17:14.54 | Bleet` | how do I install a driver on debian if I have the file lol |
| 17:14.56 | Bleet` | first time doing it |
| 17:15.26 | newsense | insmod file.ko ? |
| 17:15.33 | asg | !insmod |
| 17:15.33 | dpkg | Sorry, that command doesn't exist. Surely you meant "modprobe"?, or modprobe also loads dependencies, insmod only loads what you tell it to load. NEVER attempt to use insmod under 2.6. Use modprobe. Did we mention "modprobe" yet?. Taunting Happy Fun Ball causes cancer |
| 17:15.47 | defrysk | what driver ? |
| 17:15.55 | cahoot | and from where? |
| 17:16.01 | Bleet` | from a tar.gz |
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| 17:16.11 | defrysk | hmm helpfull |
| 17:16.17 | Bleet` | from my usb stick |
| 17:16.21 | Bleet` | network driver |
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| 17:17.24 | screamingbytes | Anyone know where i can get bootsplash 3.3-6 for etch? |
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| 17:18.16 | cahoot | Bleet`: sounds like a nostarter |
| 17:18.33 | defrysk | screamingbytes, http://packages.qa.debian.org/b/bootsplash.html |
| 17:20.21 | PhrkOnLsh | I know that there is a way but how can I get apache2ctl or apache2 to list the virtual servers on my machine? |
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| 17:21.52 | grub | hello, i am getting Network error when i try to log into my googletalk account from empathy, although i can login from pidgin. How do i go about debugging this? |
| 17:22.07 | Bleet` | cahoot is it ok if I just PM you? |
| 17:22.14 | stew | PhrkOnLsh: apache2ctl -h |
| 17:22.14 | up365 | screamingbytes, don't give up, I'm confident you're going whip this bootsplash thingy ;) |
| 17:22.34 | defrysk | uses splashy and loves it |
| 17:22.46 | ttick | stew: okay, having trouble finding a copy of 2.7-12 on the net, everyone has -13 or -10. I can't seem to remove it. Perhaps apt-get remove libc6-dev is the wrong command? |
| 17:22.48 | PhrkOnLsh | thanks, stew |
| 17:22.55 | cahoot | Bleet`: I think others here are more qualified to help really |
| 17:22.55 | PhrkOnLsh | headdesks and gets some coffee |
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| 17:23.06 | Bleet` | ok |
| 17:23.12 | stew | ttick: then upgrade libc6 to 2.7-13 |
| 17:23.31 | Bleet` | well then, how do I install a newer kernel on debian? |
| 17:23.33 | stew | ttick: and i'd recommend aptitude over apt-get |
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| 17:23.52 | stew | Bleet`: for what cpu? |
| 17:23.53 | ttick | stew: libc6-i686: PreDepends: libc6 (= 2.7-12) but 2.7-13 is to be installed |
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| 17:24.19 | stew | ttick: then upgrade libc6-i686 to 2.7.13 |
| 17:24.23 | Bleet` | for ntel T2500 2.0GHz Core Duo |
| 17:24.24 | screamingbytes | defrysk: splashy = bootsplash, splashy is just new user space only, no kernel patch. which means it doesn't cover the full boot process |
| 17:24.25 | ttick | stew: heh, okay |
| 17:24.26 | Bleet` | Intel* |
| 17:24.40 | stew | Bleet`: 32 bit or 64 bit? |
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| 17:24.45 | Bleet` | 32 |
| 17:25.01 | screamingbytes | defrysk: if i can't get bootsplash to work im gonna have to use splashy cause it looks like no one is supporting bootsplash anymore. |
| 17:25.17 | stew | Bleet`: http://packages.debian.org/etch/linux-image-2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 is a newer kernel for etch that you could install |
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| 17:25.32 | Meaw22 | i got this error when i try to update-modules |
| 17:25.32 | Meaw22 | * The update-modules command is deprecated and should not be used! |
| 17:25.43 | stew | Bleet`: or http://packages.debian.org/etch-backports/linux-image-2.6.25-2-686 |
| 17:25.44 | defrysk | screamingbytes, splashy is a no-brainer |
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| 17:26.16 | ttick | stew: lol, after: (apt-get install libc6-i686=2.7-13 libc6=2.7-13 libc6-dev=2.7-13) it is back to the perl problem when debconf tries to fix the packages. Gah! |
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| 17:26.26 | stew | ttick: did you reinstall perl-base? |
| 17:26.58 | screamingbytes | defrysk: does splashy cover all boot text till the graphical desktop / login mgr shows? |
| 17:27.21 | screamingbytes | defrysk: does splashy support themes for both silent, verbose, and animated? |
| 17:27.30 | screamingbytes | defrysk: I havn't looked at splashy yet |
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| 17:27.37 | screamingbytes | only usplash |
| 17:27.37 | defrysk | screamingbytes, read http://blog.anantshri.info/2007/08/03/bootsplash-aka-splashy-on-debian/ |
| 17:27.38 | Bleet` | stew, how do I install it once I got it? |
| 17:27.42 | ttick | stew: yeah, that give me: libc6-dev: Depends: libc6 (= 2.7-13) but 2.7-12 is to be installed |
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| 17:28.27 | stew | Bleet`: dpkg -i packagename |
| 17:28.37 | defrysk | screamingbytes, and it looks waaaay sharper then good old splash |
| 17:28.41 | stew | Bleet`: (i'm assuming that becuase of this you have no network until you get a new kernel?) |
| 17:28.51 | micols | how do i change my hostname without restarting? /etc/hostname , debian etch |
| 17:28.54 | Bleet` | correct |
| 17:29.00 | micols | so next login via ssh would show new hostname |
| 17:29.16 | Bleet` | does it matter where i place the .deb file? |
| 17:29.17 | stew | ttick: show me the output of "apt-cache policy libc6 libc6-dev libc6-i686" |
| 17:29.21 | stew | Bleet`: no |
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| 17:30.46 | screamingbytes | defrysk: I did read that the newer ones were higher than 16bit |
| 17:30.49 | GeorgeS069 | Howdy folks. Does anyone know of a How-to for adding the IPTables TARPIT option to an Etch kernel(2.6.18-6) ? |
| 17:31.01 | defrysk | screamingbytes, |
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| 17:31.24 | defrysk | i installed it today and use the default splash and it looks razor sharp |
| 17:31.41 | Lycurgus | sounds like just a kernel build |
| 17:31.57 | screamingbytes | defrysk: aye? |
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| 17:32.05 | beardy | GeorgeS069: It's a patch you need to apply, afaik. |
| 17:32.26 | beardy | GeorgeS069: And then build a kernel. |
| 17:32.26 | Lycurgus | or maybe just new iptables module |
| 17:32.34 | beardy | Possibly. |
| 17:32.45 | beardy | If it's modularized. |
| 17:32.53 | GeorgeS069 | beardy: I know...I'm just having a lot of problems applying the patch.I was hoping someone else had done it recently and made a How-to to help me out |
| 17:32.57 | ttick | stew: where do I send the output? |
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| 17:33.51 | stew | ttick: /msg dpkg paste |
| 17:33.52 | beardy | GeorgeS069: Do you have the patch matching your linux source version? Doesn't the patch have instructions? |
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| 17:34.15 | screamingbytes | defrysk: ? |
| 17:34.15 | PhrkOnLsh | ok, now I have an odd issue. My vhosts are correctly configured, my router is setup correctly, but I cannot access my vhosts via their domain names. but other computeres (including others on my LAN can. why might this be? |
| 17:34.32 | PhrkOnLsh | s/LAN/LAN) |
| 17:34.39 | screamingbytes | PhrkOnLsh: DNS? |
| 17:34.40 | defrysk | screamingbytes, yes |
| 17:34.44 | defrysk | ? |
| 17:34.45 | beardy | GeorgeS069: You can try asking in ##linux too perhaps. Show them, and/or us, the errors you get? (pastebin) |
| 17:34.46 | Bleet` | whats the command to check your kernel version again? |
| 17:34.47 | GeorgeS069 | I downloaded the kernel source and iptables source and tried to use "patch-o-matic" it seemed to work until I tried to build the kernel and failed when it got to the tarpit part |
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| 17:34.58 | screamingbytes | defrysk: you typed my name and nothing else a moment ago, just checking |
| 17:35.03 | GeorgeS069 | ok...give me and few and I'll pastebin the error |
| 17:35.09 | beardy | GeorgeS069: Which kernel source? |
| 17:35.11 | ttick | stew: http://paste.debian.net/14162/ |
| 17:35.22 | up365 | screamingbytes, I'm looking in synaptic, found - linux-patch-bootsplash 2.6.18-1(stable) along with bootsplash 3.3-2 , that isn't enough or all thats needed? |
| 17:35.22 | PhrkOnLsh | screamingbytes: my DNS server is the same as the one on the LAN (technically the router, but past that it's the same DNS) |
| 17:35.40 | screamingbytes | up365: we need 3.3-6 |
| 17:35.51 | up365 | OK gothcha |
| 17:35.51 | defrysk | screamingbytes, I have a new laptop and the keyboard takes some getting used to |
| 17:36.03 | GeorgeS069 | the source was 2.6.18.6 |
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| 17:36.05 | screamingbytes | up365: it looks like it was abandoned after unstable and was never passed along |
| 17:36.17 | screamingbytes | defrysk: kk :) |
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| 17:36.35 | zamba | any way to purge all deinstalled packages? |
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| 17:36.37 | screamingbytes | up365: maybe splashy (not usplash) is the way to go |
| 17:36.42 | beardy | GeorgeS069: kernel.org or Debian's? |
| 17:36.43 | abrotman | zamba: man dpkg |
| 17:36.54 | GeorgeS069 | beardy: kerenel.org |
| 17:37.33 | up365 | screamingbytes, well it looks like you still need unstable in repos for splashy, what the consequences of adding unstable to repos? |
| 17:38.06 | GeorgeS069 | I'll have to build the kernel again to get the error and put it up on pastebin so it's going to be a few minutes |
| 17:38.07 | beardy | You don't want to break your system just to have some silly graphics when booting. |
| 17:38.28 | beardy | GeorgeS069: Ok. The url where you got the patch from please? |
| 17:38.36 | up365 | beardy, you're right about that ;) |
| 17:38.39 | defrysk | you can download splashy and splashy-themes manually |
| 17:38.58 | Bleet` | how do i install a driver from a tar.gz file? |
| 17:39.19 | beardy | Bleet`: A "driver" for what, and from where? |
| 17:39.20 | cahoot | didn't the new kernel do it? |
| 17:39.52 | cahoot | i e didn't the new kernel solve the problem? |
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| 17:40.15 | Bleet` | how would i check if it did? |
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| 17:40.32 | defrysk | lsmod |
| 17:40.33 | cahoot | Bleet`: reboot the the new kernel |
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| 17:40.37 | zamba | abrotman: thinking about purging *all* packages that already has been uninstalled |
| 17:40.38 | Bleet` | i did |
| 17:40.53 | abrotman | zamba: right .. okay .. and? |
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| 17:41.32 | cahoot | Bleet`: and modprobed e1000e? |
| 17:41.35 | GeorgeS069 | beardy: http://www.netfilter.org/projects/iptables/files/iptables-1.3.6.tar.bz2 and I'm looking to see exactly where I got the patch-o-matic files from now |
| 17:42.07 | Bleet` | no i thought i had to download a file |
| 17:42.12 | screamingbytes | up365: you picked stable for a reason supposedly, so ... |
| 17:42.13 | Bleet` | but now I did modprobe |
| 17:42.20 | cahoot | and? |
| 17:42.26 | screamingbytes | up365: but i know people do it |
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| 17:42.42 | Bleet` | it didnt return anything if thats what you're asking |
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| 17:42.58 | cahoot | Bleet`: that's good - now ifconfig -a |
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| 17:43.48 | plb_ | what should the permissions of /tmp be? |
| 17:43.50 | Bleet` | looks different from what it did before |
| 17:44.02 | stew | plb_: 1777 |
| 17:44.03 | cahoot | got an eth0? |
| 17:44.12 | Bleet` | yeah |
| 17:44.20 | cahoot | try dhclient eth0 |
| 17:44.21 | ninix | hi, anyone has a good tutorial to learn "how make debian/ubuntu package (with dependencies etc.. and not with alien)? |
| 17:44.28 | stew | ninix: /msg dpkg mg |
| 17:44.43 | ninix | thanks |
| 17:44.51 | plb_ | thanks |
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| 17:45.27 | Bleet` | it's doing dhcpdiscovers |
| 17:45.57 | GeorgeS069 | beardy: no idea where I got p-o-m from now. this is the file name I have though patch-o-matic-ng-20080806.tar.bz2 |
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| 17:46.49 | energY | !pastebin |
| 17:46.49 | dpkg | Please don't paste anything into the channel; use a paste site instead, like: http://paste.lisp.org, http://rafb.net/paste/, http://pastebin.ca/, http://picpaste.com for pics. --- Also ask me: <pastebin pipe> |
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| 17:47.03 | abrotman | energY: /msg dpkg pastebin .. please |
| 17:47.03 | Supaplex | !pciid [9005:00c0] |
| 17:47.03 | dpkg | egrep -i --color `echo 9005:00c0 | sed 's/:/.*/'` /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/modules.alias |
| 17:47.05 | stew | energY: please /msg the bot |
| 17:47.12 | Bleet` | cahoot what do i do now? |
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| 17:47.26 | cahoot | Bleet`: did you get an IP? |
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| 17:48.20 | ttick | stew: http://paste.debian.net/14162/ A real head scratcher, stew? |
| 17:48.22 | Bleet` | the only IP i can see is: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 |
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| 17:48.44 | stew | ttick: install libc6 verion 2.7.13 |
| 17:48.53 | stew | ttick: and libc6-686 version 2.7.13 |
| 17:48.58 | stew | err 2.7-13 |
| 17:49.27 | ttick | stew: yeah, I did: "apt-get install libc6-i686=2.7-13 libc6=2.7-13 libc6-dev=2.7-13" but then got a perl error from debconf during installation. |
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| 17:50.12 | cahoot | Bleet`: do you hane an entry for eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 17:50.17 | Bleet` | cahoot, i dont see how i would get an IP when im not connected |
| 17:50.56 | ndo | Hi guys, im back |
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| 17:51.21 | stew | ttick: you need to reinstall perl and perl-base of the same version, use dpkg to install the files directly from /var/cache/apt/archives |
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| 17:52.01 | Bleet` | cahoot, no. no entries in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 17:52.24 | ndo | oke ive got my gdm running by "aptitude install gdm" but how doi get gnome now? apt-get install gnome dont work, gnome-desktop dont works to, like its in ubuntu, so how its in debian named now ? anyone plz ty. ) |
| 17:52.42 | cahoot | Bleet`: lo is there -no? man interfaces to see how to create on for eth0 |
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| 17:53.38 | screamingbytes | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:53.43 | screamingbytes | bah gnome |
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| 17:53.51 | ribnitz | heyas |
| 17:54.16 | ndo | and what does this command shows me? |
| 17:54.25 | screamingbytes | gnome package name |
| 17:54.34 | abrotman | ndo: show us the output error |
| 17:54.40 | ndo | whzts a command for installing gnome via cli in debian?:) |
| 17:54.43 | ribnitz | Is XFS a good cohice for sotring mostly audio and video; and how would I get write barrier support working on LVM (in Debian testing)? |
| 17:54.55 | abrotman | !install gnom |
| 17:54.57 | abrotman | !install gnome |
| 17:54.57 | dpkg | To install GNOME on sarge or later, install the 'gnome' package to install everything, the 'gnome-desktop-environment' package for slightly less stuff, or the 'gnome-core' package for even less. You will need X installed as well, ask me about <set up x>. |
| 17:55.03 | screamingbytes | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:55.12 | abrotman | aptitude |
| 17:55.57 | ttick | stew: okay, after: dpkg install perl-base_5.10.0-11.1_i386.deb, I get "unable to stat `./usr/lib/perl/5.10.0/Scalar/Util.pm' (which I was about to install): Permission denied" :boggle:, I'm root. |
| 17:56.53 | ndo | oke, apt-get install pkgname is obvious, but, is i do apt-get install gnome, i get no result, i guess ill try gnome-desktop-enviroment. But, huh, whats difference between gnome and gnome-desktop-enviroment?:) |
| 17:57.16 | ribnitz | ttick: File permissions are set on a file or dir basis; this has nothing to do with being root |
| 17:57.26 | up365 | screamingbytes, sorry for delayed response, I've got my hands full just running stable ;) but always looking for sumpin new. |
| 17:57.28 | abrotman | ndo: see above |
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| 17:58.59 | ttick | ribnitz: gotcha. so who does it make sense that dpkg is trying to stat a file that he's about to install anyway. And why would that be an error? Furthermore, what the heck should I do now? |
| 17:59.26 | ribnitz | ttick: use ls to see if the file exists. |
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| 17:59.42 | ribnitz | ttick: which is probaly not the case |
| 17:59.44 | ttick | ribnitz: it doens't . . . which is why I want to install it. |
| 17:59.45 | ndo | ok ty, imgoing to reboot and see what i can do. i hope i can set it up, cuz ubuntu crushes when i get out of ram. and i expect debian not to do it. but if i dont figure out to start debian. i guess im going to try out fedora next |
| 18:00.11 | ribnitz | ndo: "get out of ram"? |
| 18:00.21 | ribnitz | ndo: ever heard about swap? |
| 18:00.29 | Bleet` | cahoot, sorry phone rang. |
| 18:00.40 | Bleet` | and no i only have 2 lines in my interfaces and they both start with a # |
| 18:01.09 | cahoot | Bleet`: man interfaces |
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| 18:02.32 | Bleet` | ok |
| 18:03.30 | stew | ttick: what command gives you the "unable to stat" error? |
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| 18:03.49 | ttick | stew: dpkg install perl-base_5.10.0-11.1_i386.deb |
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| 18:06.22 | ndo | look,yes i heard about swap |
| 18:06.37 | GeorgeS069 | beardy: here is the error I get when I try to build the patched kernel http://paste.debian.net/14168/ |
| 18:06.42 | ndo | but, guess what, is not helping |
| 18:07.18 | ndo | look, when i run two guest os's with virtual bow (xp and 2003), virtual network testing |
| 18:07.30 | ndo | and i start firefox, X hangs |
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| 18:07.52 | ndo | i can go ctrl+alt+F1-6 |
| 18:07.58 | ndo | systemis stillworking |
| 18:08.02 | ndo | but X hangs |
| 18:08.18 | ndo | thats why i took to try Debian, expecting it not to do it |
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| 18:10.07 | simNIX | My vmware workstation 5.0 says it misses /dev/vmmon and that I need to load module vmmon -> when I ismod vmmon its not found. In synaptic I cant locate a package - anyone know how to satisfy this dependencie under Debian ? |
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| 18:10.58 | screamingbytes | up365: id say bad idea :) |
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| 18:12.33 | ttick | stew: okay, apparently, I've got much bigger problems. Check this out: http://paste.debian.net/14170/ |
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| 18:13.00 | ttick | stew: no wonder, I can't get this junk to work. probably HD crash in the making. |
| 18:13.01 | eptalon | heyas. |
| 18:13.23 | screamingbytes | up365: http://debian.pastebin.com/d46763744 |
| 18:14.01 | screamingbytes | up365: adding the sources and installing splashy, it wants to change far too much, it will no longer be stable :) might as well go to unstable and getting it |
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| 18:14.25 | eptalon | Suppose I have an NFS (v4) server; is there an easy way to say I want to export /home, but if user foo logs in he will get /home/foo mounted somewhere, rather than just home? |
| 18:14.28 | alphaman1101 | How do i restart a debian box |
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| 18:15.07 | paolo_ | how do I copy "cp -a / /mnt/tmp" so that it wouldn't copy /mnt/tmp into itself? |
| 18:15.18 | eptalon | alphaman1101: shutdown -r now; reboot; or by pushing the power swich. |
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| 18:16.04 | eptalon | paolo_: There is an option for it not to follow mounts; i think its p, but I may be wrong |
| 18:16.32 | paolo_ | eptalon: thanks |
| 18:16.47 | eptalon | paolo_: -x |
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| 18:18.40 | paolo_ | eptalon: I don't think -p would work |
| 18:18.57 | paolo_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:20.09 | eptalon | paolo_: as I said: -x |
| 18:20.14 | up365 | screamingbytes, yeah, I'm not ready for unstable so maybe we'll find another "deb" toy |
| 18:20.51 | paolo_ | ops sorry |
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| 18:21.31 | joneal | hi |
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| 18:22.03 | Vooloo | how should one determine how big the swap should be? |
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| 18:22.45 | theclaw | when I try to update pidgin on debian unstable, I get the following aptitude output: http://rafb.net/p/QAA4KL35.html - is there a simple solution to solve this? |
| 18:22.53 | theclaw | (I didn't do a dist-upgrade for several months) |
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| 18:26.04 | up365 | Vooloo, my swap is 1.61GB, have 2GB ram I don't know if this the most efficient but it's what I got. |
| 18:26.43 | stew | ttick: ahh, leeme guess, its on reiserfs? |
| 18:26.59 | ttick | stew: yeah. |
| 18:27.36 | ttick | stew: unless there's something else fishy, it looks like my HD is about to die soon. At least that's my guess. |
| 18:28.23 | ttick | stew: http://paste.debian.net/14173/ from /var/log/messages |
| 18:29.04 | stew | ttick: yeah, that looks like a dying hard drive (or an overheating one) |
| 18:30.35 | ttick | stew: any suggestions on the best utility to make an image of my old drive to the new drive (if they're different sizes)? |
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| 18:30.50 | Bleet` | ok im going to be honest, after reading the man interfaces for a while, i still have no clue how to start |
| 18:31.03 | Bleet` | shouldnt there be an automatic way to make one? |
| 18:31.13 | stew | Bleet`: "/msg dpkg man interfaces" for the condensed version |
| 18:31.28 | Bleet` | ok |
| 18:31.45 | stew | ttick: if the new one is bigger, you can use dd/ddrescue |
| 18:32.41 | ttick | stew: cool, thanks |
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| 18:33.24 | stew | ttick: thought it would make the drive appear to be the same size as the one you are copying from |
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| 18:33.38 | stew | it would later be possible to resize things, but i'd only do so with good backups |
| 18:34.42 | ttick | stew: hmm, I'd hate to have to re-install all this crap again. |
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| 18:35.14 | ttick | stew: can I get an export of what I've apt-get installed so I can start the new system from there, then just copy over the /etc directory? |
| 18:35.24 | n3kl | ttick: dpkg -l |
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| 18:35.39 | simonrvn | !get-selections |
| 18:35.50 | n3kl | Does anyone use mutt with gmail? |
| 18:36.02 | stew | ttick: /msg dpkg aptitude clone |
| 18:36.12 | ttick | stew: okay, thanks |
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| 18:36.35 | stew | ttick: /msg dpkg selections |
| 18:36.47 | beardy | ttick: /msg dpkg list all packages |
| 18:37.15 | simonrvn | debian clone |
| 18:37.21 | simonrvn | list all packages |
| 18:37.29 | simonrvn | (there's several..) |
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| 18:38.44 | Bleet` | how do I make a search for wireless networks? |
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| 18:39.57 | epsilon | iwlist $interface scanning |
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| 18:41.40 | Bleet` | interfaces doesnt support scanning :| |
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| 18:43.27 | cahoot | Bleet`: got eth0 working? |
| 18:43.46 | DawnLigh1 | debian rulzor |
| 18:43.57 | eraldo | how can I get "ls" to show me a list of files like with ls -l but without the owner, group, etc information ? |
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| 18:44.16 | Bleet` | dunno if it's working, i just /msg dpkg man interfaces |
| 18:44.28 | Bleet` | and followed it |
| 18:44.56 | cahoot | and tried restart networking? |
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| 18:45.35 | simonrvn | eraldo: man ls; ls --help | less |
| 18:45.47 | Bleet` | nope |
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| 18:46.25 | stew | eraldo: "ls" |
| 18:46.28 | cahoot | Bleet`: try (as root) /etc/init.d/networking restart |
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| 18:47.14 | Bleet` | wth i just rebooted and it's doing DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 on startup |
| 18:47.16 | Bleet` | is that normal? |
| 18:47.31 | stew | Bleet`: it is normal if you configured eth0 to be dhcp |
| 18:47.32 | cahoot | if it results in an ip yes |
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| 18:48.40 | lrp | can anybody help me out in this ?? why http://pastebin.ca/1094953 |
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| 18:49.05 | lrp | im trying to download debian mirror and he stop downloading |
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| 18:49.34 | Bleet` | cahoot, i wrote what you said |
| 18:50.25 | screamingbytes | the order of releases is Development -> Unstable -> Testing -> Stable right |
| 18:50.35 | Bleet` | and i got (a long with a bunch of other stuff) "grep: /etc/resolv.conf : No such file or directory |
| 18:51.19 | screamingbytes | Bleet`: try cat /etc/resolv.conf |
| 18:51.43 | Bleet` | how do i cat a file i dont have |
| 18:51.46 | Bleet` | ? |
| 18:52.05 | screamingbytes | Bleet`: I was just making sure it wasn't there |
| 18:52.06 | Bleet` | oh |
| 18:52.22 | cahoot | Bleet`: does ifconfig -a shoe eth0 with an IP now? |
| 18:52.29 | screamingbytes | Bleet`: you need a sample of what goes in that file? |
| 18:52.36 | screamingbytes | Bleet`: to recreate it |
| 18:53.11 | Bleet` | no IP in ifconfig -a |
| 18:53.20 | Bleet` | screamingbytes, yeah I guess |
| 18:53.42 | screamingbytes | Bleet`: touch /etc/resolv.conf |
| 18:54.00 | screamingbytes | Bleet`: search local.domain |
| 18:54.11 | screamingbytes | where local domain is your local lan search domain |
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| 18:54.25 | screamingbytes | Bleet`: nameserver 192.168.1.x |
| 18:54.42 | screamingbytes | or your nameservers, internal or external, use multiple nameserver lines |
| 18:55.37 | Bleet` | you mean im supposed to search for my local domain? |
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| 19:00.12 | w00LiPoP | Hi ! Just a quick question, where do I find the gnome menu-logo? (I want to change it) |
| 19:00.29 | abrotman | the foot? |
| 19:01.27 | w00LiPoP | yeah |
| 19:01.53 | w00LiPoP | Do you know where it is? |
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| 19:03.57 | Laeborg | hi |
| 19:04.43 | Laeborg | /etc/rc.d/init.d/mysqld: No such file or directory |
| 19:04.56 | abrotman | w00LiPoP: i thought you could right click on the menu and change the icon |
| 19:05.05 | abrotman | Laeborg: /etc/init.d/mysql ? |
| 19:05.37 | Laeborg | Starting MySQLCouldn't find MySQL manager or server [FAILED] |
| 19:06.41 | stew | Laeborg: what command gave you that error? |
| 19:06.57 | Laeborg | /etc/init.d/mysql start |
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| 19:07.17 | w00LiPoP | abrotman: No, you can't- |
| 19:07.27 | stew | Laeborg: what version of debian are you running? |
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| 19:07.49 | stew | Laeborg: is the mysql-server-5.0 package installed? |
| 19:08.06 | cognitiaclaeves | I have a screen log file that has ANSI color codes embedded in it. (such as ^[[0;32m ) Is there an app that can safely strip those out? |
| 19:08.09 | Laeborg | there should be |
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| 19:08.27 | fugit | laeborg; dpgk --list | grep mysql-server |
| 19:09.06 | w00LiPoP | Don't anyone know? |
| 19:09.17 | Bleet` | how do i check what my local domain is? |
| 19:09.47 | cr3rzemjest | How to find out which GTK i use, and how to configure it? |
| 19:09.48 | Laeborg | doh. that server isn't debian, its centos :/ |
| 19:10.01 | Laeborg | its my other two servers there usign debian |
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| 19:10.22 | cahoot | Bleet`: if you don't get an IP no use fiddling with resolv.conf |
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| 19:10.38 | SerajewelKS | cr3rzemjest: what are you going to configure exactly? |
| 19:11.00 | abrotman | w00 |
| 19:11.01 | abrotman | bah |
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| 19:11.14 | Bleet` | I dont even have the resolv.conf |
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| 19:11.31 | cr3rzemjest | SerajewelKS, window colors? how to do that without GNOME/KDE installed? |
| 19:11.36 | Bleet` | bah is there really this much hassle to make your wireless connection work on debian? |
| 19:11.50 | rahul | cr3rzemjest: what are window colors? |
| 19:11.56 | cahoot | Bleet`: it will be created for you once you dhcp requests result in an IP |
| 19:12.03 | cr3rzemjest | rahul, the gray thing |
| 19:12.05 | rahul | cr3rzemjest: colors of the window border of colors of what's inside? |
| 19:12.12 | rahul | cr3rzemjest: there's no gray thing here... |
| 19:12.21 | rahul | (since I configured all the colors :P) |
| 19:12.22 | Bleet` | aha |
| 19:12.35 | Bleet` | so I just need to make the dhcp request result in an IP.. |
| 19:12.48 | cr3rzemjest | rahul, like , in xchat you have gray thing, and you can't change it, but it is possible to change text field |
| 19:13.01 | rahul | cr3rzemjest: I have no idea what you're talking about |
| 19:13.02 | cahoot | Bleet`: correct - the question is why this doesn't happen |
| 19:13.07 | cr3rzemjest | sorry |
| 19:13.07 | rahul | cr3rzemjest: you mean a button? |
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| 19:13.16 | rahul | cr3rzemjest: or the background of the window? |
| 19:13.24 | Bleet` | well |
| 19:13.26 | rahul | cr3rzemjest: or text in a label in the window? |
| 19:13.42 | Bleet` | I was going to say this from the begining, but it slipped my mind |
| 19:13.55 | Bleet` | I dont have any ethernet cable plugged into my laptop |
| 19:14.03 | cahoot | doh |
| 19:14.27 | Bleet` | but still, do I need to set it up before I set my wireless connection up? |
| 19:14.41 | Bleet` | because I'll only be using wireless on my laptop |
| 19:14.51 | cahoot | no but it will probably be somewhat easier |
| 19:15.08 | Bleet` | aha. |
| 19:15.26 | cheekee | sorry! Newbie question. but what's the diff. b/w Lenny and Etch? |
| 19:15.53 | epsilon | testing and stable |
| 19:16.03 | Bleet` | cahoot, what was the dhcp command again? |
| 19:16.04 | cahoot | Bleet`: since you can download needed components directly if you have a working connection |
| 19:16.09 | stew | cheekee: etch is the currently release version of debian stable. lenny is currently labeled "testing" and has not been released yet. when it is released it will then become the current version of stable and etch becomes "oldstable" |
| 19:16.15 | cahoot | Bleet`: try (as root) /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 19:16.24 | epsilon | etch is the productive and stable version, lenny is the upcoming version still in testing stage |
| 19:16.25 | Bleet` | ok |
| 19:16.37 | joneal | hi |
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| 19:16.54 | joneal | I'm trying to partition a new drive but it's not coming online |
| 19:17.06 | Bleet` | let me plug the cable in though, just a sec |
| 19:17.13 | cheekee | Lenny =testing , Etch =stable, ok so I'm unstable ;) |
| 19:17.15 | slayton | anybody here know about configure vsftpd in ubuntu? |
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| 19:17.31 | theom3ga | hi there |
| 19:17.45 | joneal | hi |
| 19:17.49 | theom3ga | do you know of a way to identify the codec of a video under debian? |
| 19:17.55 | rootmos | i have a hp psc 2210 its a all in one printer/scanner. I use sane for scanning and cups for printing. Every time i use the scanner i can not print afterwards a reboot work, restating cups and saned do not work. |
| 19:17.59 | rootmos | ops |
| 19:18.02 | joneal | no |
| 19:18.18 | cognitiaclaeves | Is there a way to pull out the ANSI control codes from this file? http://pastebin.ca/1094977 |
| 19:18.20 | pickcoder | theom3ga: look in the header of the file |
| 19:18.30 | pickcoder | there should be a vids spec listed |
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| 19:20.43 | Bleet` | cahoot, alright thank you for making my wired internet work |
| 19:20.49 | Bleet` | now I need help with the wirless |
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| 19:21.02 | Bleet` | wireless* |
| 19:21.17 | cahoot | Bleet`: what kind of wifi? |
| 19:21.27 | Bleet` | kind as in? |
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| 19:21.36 | cahoot | chipset |
| 19:21.57 | cahoot | Bleet`: look at lspci |
| 19:21.58 | abrotman | theom3ga: file video.foo ? |
| 19:22.26 | theom3ga | lol thanks abrotman, I hadn't thought file would tell me such thing |
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| 19:22.34 | Bleet` | Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG (802.11 a/b/g), Bluetooth 2.0, InfraRed is what the lenovo thinkpad t60 specs says |
| 19:22.46 | Bleet` | but ill look at lspci, gimme a sec. |
| 19:22.51 | Michael | Can somebody help me? I'm trying to installed Debian on the computer. I have burned the ISO image to a CD-R and inserted it into my drive. I select the boot option from the menu and then get an error: "No common CD drive was detected". It then offers to allow me to load the drivers from a floppy drive, which I do not have. It seems as though my drive is not supported. Does anybody know what is going on? My debian experi |
| 19:22.51 | Michael | ence is zero. |
| 19:22.56 | cahoot | Bleet`: no need |
| 19:23.37 | Bleet` | yeah lcpci says the same |
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| 19:23.43 | Bleet` | lspci* |
| 19:23.47 | keith4 | Michael: you're not able to boot from any CD? |
| 19:23.47 | cahoot | Bleet`: you want to download firmware-iwlwifi (I think thta's the name) |
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| 19:24.12 | Michael | keith4, yeah the CD boots. It's the CD that is saying there is no CD drive. |
| 19:24.19 | Michael | How odd. |
| 19:24.37 | keith4 | wow |
| 19:24.40 | keith4 | what is the hardware? |
| 19:24.41 | Bleet` | ok sec |
| 19:24.54 | abrotman | theom3ga: i'm not saying it will .. but it might |
| 19:25.01 | theom3ga | it does, in fact :) |
| 19:25.10 | abrotman | cahoot: not if he's on etch ? |
| 19:25.26 | cahoot | abrotman: etch and 1/2 ? |
| 19:25.49 | cahoot | abrotman: that's where his kernel is from |
| 19:26.11 | Michael | keith4, It's a bran new PC. Just bought it 2 days ago. Optiarc DVD+-RW AD-7200S ATA Device |
| 19:26.22 | Bleet` | cahoot, do I download it with apt-get? |
| 19:26.47 | OpenTokix | It's a sata drive |
| 19:26.51 | OpenTokix | the optiarc AD7200S |
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| 19:27.12 | cahoot | Bleet`: yes that what I meant - see if it's possible |
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| 19:27.20 | OpenTokix | Michael: I would go with etch and a half or lenny beta, since lenny is frozen - the beta is pretty nice |
| 19:27.48 | abrotman | cahoot: ah yes it is available |
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| 19:28.05 | eraldo | simonrvn: I read the whole man page of ls but there is no such function/param |
| 19:28.14 | cahoot | abrotman: IIRC he's got 2.6.24 |
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| 19:28.22 | cr3rzemjest | is there any nice font displayer which shows all the fonts in my system? |
| 19:29.02 | eraldo | stew: merely typing "ls" is not _listing_ the information |
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| 19:29.27 | eraldo | stew: maybe I should add here that for me a list is one entry per line... sorry |
| 19:29.30 | stew | eraldo: what information do you want in addition to what ls says? |
| 19:29.31 | SealedWithAKiss | OpenTokix, so Debian doesn't support my drive? |
| 19:29.34 | stew | eraldo: ls -1 |
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| 19:29.43 | OpenTokix | SealedWithAKiss: not debian etch so it seems |
| 19:29.49 | OpenTokix | SealedWithAKiss: I would go with debian lenny beta2 |
| 19:29.49 | eraldo | stew: I want the file name only |
| 19:29.54 | OpenTokix | SealedWithAKiss: it's awesome |
| 19:30.02 | eraldo | stew: in "list" form |
| 19:30.15 | SealedWithAKiss | OpenTokix, just Google Debian Etch Lenny Beta 2? |
| 19:30.16 | stew | eraldo: if you use "ls" in a pipeline it outputs the files one per line, or use "ls -1" in an interactive shell |
| 19:30.17 | OpenTokix | SealedWithAKiss: since its frozen and projected release in september as the new stable |
| 19:30.25 | OpenTokix | SealedWithAKiss: Debian lenny2 iso installer |
| 19:30.30 | OpenTokix | SealedWithAKiss: sorry |
| 19:30.37 | OpenTokix | SealedWithAKiss: debian lenny installer beta2 |
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| 19:30.49 | eraldo | stew: sorry.. I did not get that *confused* |
| 19:31.05 | eraldo | stew: pipeline to where ? |
| 19:31.13 | stew | SealedWithAKiss: there is a newer release of etch specifically targetted at new hardware: /msg dpkg etchnhalf |
| 19:31.28 | stew | SealedWithAKiss: i'd recommend trying this over lenny, as lenny is still buggy and not yet well supported |
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| 19:31.33 | stew | eraldo: "ls -1" |
| 19:31.36 | eraldo | stew: I want ls to list only the filenames |
| 19:31.47 | stew | eraldo: try typing "ls -1" to get a list of the filenames |
| 19:31.47 | keith4 | is there any way to get dhclient to run a post-update action? |
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| 19:32.05 | OpenTokix | stew: Well supported, most developing goes into lenny and its frozen =) |
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| 19:32.32 | eraldo | stew: but why just using "ls -l" I get all the other information as well... I want _only_ the filenames |
| 19:32.32 | stew | OpenTokix: not guaranteed to get timely bugfixes or security patches |
| 19:32.42 | eraldo | stew: isn't there an option ? |
| 19:32.52 | stew | eraldo: yes, there is, it is "ls -1" |
| 19:32.58 | OpenTokix | stew: fair enough |
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| 19:33.44 | eraldo | stew: that's not _only_ the filenames on my machine... I also get owner group time etc |
| 19:34.14 | stew | eraldo: "ls -1" not "ls -l" that is "ls dash one" not "ls dash ell" |
| 19:34.28 | eraldo | stew: oooh |
| 19:34.59 | stew | eraldo: or, for instance "ls | cat" |
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| 19:35.05 | stew | keith4: have a look at /etc/dhcp3/dhclient-exit-hooks.d/ |
| 19:35.15 | eraldo | stew: "ls -1" gives me the same output as "ls -l" ...any idea why? |
| 19:35.16 | OpenTokix | find / -type f |
| 19:35.22 | keith4 | stew: yah, I threw a script in there. but it doesn't seem to run |
| 19:35.31 | stew | keith4: what is the name of the script? |
| 19:35.43 | truckin | eraldo: try 'dir' |
| 19:35.45 | stew | eraldo: does "/bin/ls -1" give you the same output? |
| 19:35.50 | Bleet` | cahoot, sorry again my pizza just came :P but my wireless works now |
| 19:35.53 | Bleet` | thanks a lot. |
| 19:35.59 | stew | truckin: 'dir' is certainly going to have more than just the filenames |
| 19:36.01 | keith4 | stew: update-dns.sh |
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| 19:36.11 | stew | keith4: it can't have a . ; man run-parts |
| 19:36.19 | cahoot | Bleet`: ok fix you interfaces |
| 19:36.20 | keith4 | stew: ok. thanks |
| 19:36.32 | truckin | stew: it doesn't here. |
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| 19:36.46 | Bleet` | cahoot, whats wrong with it? |
| 19:36.54 | humbolt1 | how can I find out which xen version I am running in my dom0? |
| 19:36.57 | keith4 | stew: yay! it works! |
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| 19:37.07 | humbolt1 | I applied some backports to etch |
| 19:37.14 | humbolt1 | and don't remember anymore |
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| 19:37.47 | stew | truckin: oh, sorry, dir used to do something different, i havne't used it in a long time |
| 19:38.06 | truckin | stew: same here. :) |
| 19:38.08 | eraldo | stew: solved... I had an alias set ! |
| 19:38.14 | cahoot | Bleet`: i e yuo don't want eth0 autostarted |
| 19:38.30 | Bleet` | oh right |
| 19:38.36 | Bleet` | can I just delete the lines I've added? |
| 19:38.44 | eraldo | stew: that changed "ls" to using some special format.. |
| 19:39.11 | truckin | eraldo: the '-1' flag means one line per file whereas -l gives details long format |
| 19:39.28 | GoT_r00t | hey guys |
| 19:40.11 | GoT_r00t | im trying to do a late command in the preseed file but having problems |
| 19:40.17 | GoT_r00t | can anybody help? |
| 19:40.47 | Bleet` | ok anywas |
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| 19:40.53 | Bleet` | stew, thanks for helping me before |
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| 19:41.07 | cahoot | Bleet`: just don't set the auto option for eth0 - and make a suitable wntry for wlan0 |
| 19:41.58 | Bleet` | cahoot, what would a suitable wntry for wlan0 be? :P |
| 19:42.10 | cahoot | Bleet`: or - optionally comment out everything but lo in interfaces and resort to network-manager |
| 19:42.23 | stew | Bleet`: is the wireless-tools package installed? |
| 19:42.52 | eraldo | stew, truckin: working perfectly now... the set alias was the problem... thank's a lot stew for helping me track the problem |
| 19:42.54 | jescis | which player is easier to setup for fb use mplayer or vlc? |
| 19:42.55 | Bleet` | cahoot, I dont have any lo in interfaces |
| 19:43.02 | Bleet` | stew, I dont think so |
| 19:43.10 | cahoot | strange |
| 19:43.28 | Bleet` | auto eth0 (newline) iface eth0 inet dhcp |
| 19:43.31 | Bleet` | thats my interfaces |
| 19:43.47 | cahoot | remove auto |
| 19:44.11 | stew | Bleet`: wait, have you installed firmware for your wireless card yet? |
| 19:44.20 | Bleet` | yeah |
| 19:44.27 | jescis | not trying to start a holy war just wants to play his avi files even though he has no X anymore :s |
| 19:44.33 | cahoot | Bleet`: you want lo in interfaces |
| 19:44.41 | stew | Bleet`: install wireless-tools and man 7 wireless |
| 19:44.46 | Bleet` | cahoot, why? |
| 19:44.50 | Bleet` | stew, why? |
| 19:44.52 | Bleet` | lol |
| 19:45.08 | stew | Bleet`: in order to configure your wireless card, that is what you are trying to do, right? |
| 19:45.08 | cahoot | I'll shut up |
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| 19:45.26 | magyar_ | hi, is there a way besides fstab to see with what options a file system is mounted? |
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| 19:45.29 | Bleet` | stew, mm no my wireless is working |
| 19:45.30 | Enron | I have 2 files I need to compare, file 1 contains usernames, file 2 contains usernames and passwords. I need to copy password from file 2 into file 1 by comparing usernames. Problem is the usernames in file 1 and 2 are not in the same line number. |
| 19:45.42 | stew | Bleet`: nevermind me then |
| 19:46.13 | stew | jescis: i didnt' think vlc worked without x. mplayer definately does |
| 19:46.14 | Bleet` | well cahoot and stew thanks for helping me out.. I'll probly join this chan again. computer problems tend to haunt me |
| 19:46.15 | OpenTokix | Enron: how does the file with username and passwords look like? |
| 19:46.22 | OpenTokix | Enron: is it like "Username:password"? |
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| 19:46.47 | jescis | stew, ah |
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| 19:47.21 | stew | Enron: while read username ; do grep username file2 ; done < file1 |
| 19:47.23 | Enron | OpenTokix it's seperated with comma |
| 19:47.27 | stew | oh |
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| 19:47.35 | OpenTokix | Enron: ok |
| 19:47.42 | jescis | stew, also I have mplayer-nogui installed |
| 19:47.45 | enouf | jescis: see #mplayer - but don't tell them you use debian's mplayer - they'll tell you to build from svn (and you just might need to) |
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| 19:47.50 | OpenTokix | Enron: cat filename | cut -d "," -f 0 |
| 19:47.54 | Enron | File 1, line 1: Enron File 2 line 3 : Enron,MyPassword |
| 19:47.56 | Enron | etc.. |
| 19:48.12 | ndo | guys, is centerim only debian availableirc client? |
| 19:48.13 | Enron | OpenTokix what will that do |
| 19:48.17 | stew | Enron: what I said should work |
| 19:48.22 | OpenTokix | Enron: it will give you a list of only the usernames |
| 19:48.32 | OpenTokix | Enron: ten you can pipe that to uniq and sort |
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| 19:48.54 | GeorgeS069 | Could someone take a look here http://paste.debian.net/14168 and see if they could help me? I'm trying to build a new kernel(2.6.18.6 from kernel.org) to add in the IPtables 'tarpit' target. I used netfilter.org's patch-o-matic to patch the kernel source. |
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| 19:49.05 | OpenTokix | anders__: when you have usernames from file 2, sorted - you can sort file 1 and then compare the two |
| 19:49.13 | OpenTokix | Enron: |
| 19:49.15 | OpenTokix | anders__: sorry |
| 19:49.25 | eptalon | Heyas. Is it hard to setup an nfs4 export using testing and unstable? |
| 19:50.12 | ndo | can someone advice me any debian irc client plz? |
| 19:50.22 | stew | !best irc client |
| 19:50.22 | dpkg | i guess irssi is the best irc client ever, found in the 'irssi-text' package on sarge, 'irssi' from etch. http://www.irssi.org, http://www.irssi.org/documentation/startup #irssi @ irc.stealth.net / #irssi @ irc.efnet.net |
| 19:50.26 | Enron | We need to preserve the password |
| 19:50.36 | Enron | we need to copy over the password also |
| 19:50.42 | Enron | that will only do username right? |
| 19:50.45 | stew | Enron: while read username ; do grep username file2 ; done < file1 |
| 19:50.52 | eptalon | ndo: depends. xchat, chatzilla, irssi.. |
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| 19:51.33 | Enron | i'll try that, appreciate the help. |
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| 19:51.50 | stew | Enron: that will dump the corresonding line from file2 to stdout for every line in file1 |
| 19:51.58 | stew | Enron: you can redirect that to another file |
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| 19:52.05 | abrotman | there is a #irssi on freenode .. why point people at the others? |
| 19:52.43 | enouf | what's freenode? |
| 19:52.46 | enouf | hides |
| 19:52.52 | eptalon | abrotman: All I said i that there are people who like different colors on their cars. |
| 19:53.07 | abrotman | uh what? |
| 19:53.14 | eptalon | Literate? - Who? Me? |
| 19:53.20 | abrotman | uh what? |
| 19:53.43 | stew | !no irssi is the best irc client ever "aptitude install irssi" ; see http://www.irssi.org, http://www.irssi.org/documentation/startup or see the #irssi channel on freenode |
| 19:53.43 | dpkg | okay, stew |
| 19:54.06 | eptalon | Personally, I am battling with nfs4 mounting something |
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| 19:59.30 | janis_ | hi there!! I have isntalled cups-bsd and cups has seen my printer. lpstat -a declares my printer, printer1 to be accepting jobs. However, when I do lpq -Pprinter0 I get "unknown destination" |
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| 20:00.44 | GeorgeS069 | Could someone help me get the IPtables 'tarpit' target working on an Etch system or suggest an easier way than re-building the kernel from source? |
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| 20:01.08 | stew | GeorgeS069: didn't you say you needed POM? |
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| 20:01.29 | GeorgeS069 | I don't have to use p-o-m that was just the only way I found so far |
| 20:01.52 | GeorgeS069 | hell, if Lenny has tarpit I'll just dist-upgrade :) |
| 20:01.55 | stew | GeorgeS069: especially if you are using POM, you should be asking in #iptables |
| 20:01.55 | aleix | does anyone know if anyone has compiled xen 3.2.1 on lenny, and worked? I had some kernel panics today... :( |
| 20:02.29 | GeorgeS069 | stew : I asked and they just ignored me. I tried ##Linux also with the same result |
| 20:02.51 | trakinas | hello! is there anyway to generate a tar without the directories? that is, instead of a archive containing /path/to/file.foo, it would contain only file.foo ? |
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| 20:08.09 | akatsuki | hello.. when i boot..its taking like 10 seconds on this.. *loading hardware drivers [ 27.213505 ] intel-rng: FWH not detected..... so how can i delete this? is taking 10 seconds of my boot time and its not even detecting it! how i can solve this. i will really appreciate any help, thanks |
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| 20:08.32 | keith4 | akatsuki: what kernel? |
| 20:08.34 | screamingbytes | whats up with 9byte dl speed for testing/unstable? |
| 20:08.45 | Enron | stew still here? |
| 20:08.47 | screamingbytes | there a better site to grab these from? |
| 20:08.53 | akatsuki | hmm not sure.. i guess its 2.6 |
| 20:08.55 | akatsuki | the last one |
| 20:08.57 | keith4 | "these"? |
| 20:08.58 | Ace2016_- | What package do i install to have a local development server setup ready to go? |
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| 20:09.16 | keith4 | Ace2016_-: development of what? |
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| 20:09.25 | keith4 | akatsuki: what does "uname -r" say? |
| 20:09.34 | Enron | OpenTokix you here? |
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| 20:09.49 | Ace2016_- | oh a website, a wordpress theme, i need a local LAMP setup but there was a package that did it easily and fast |
| 20:09.53 | akatsuki | 2.6.24-19-generic |
| 20:09.59 | stew | Enron: if you have a question, just ask it |
| 20:10.13 | keith4 | !tell Enron about seen |
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| 20:10.18 | stew | akatsuki: please go to #ubuntu for help with ubuntu |
| 20:10.21 | akatsuki | i compile myself |
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| 20:10.25 | akatsuki | to that kernel |
| 20:10.31 | akatsuki | no |
| 20:10.35 | akatsuki | im using debian not ubuntu |
| 20:10.44 | eptalon | what do I need as the most basic packages to do kerberos auth for nfs4? |
| 20:11.20 | keith4 | Ace2016_-: you might be thinking of ubuntu |
| 20:11.48 | trakinas | Ace2016_-: you need to install mysql and apache. just apt-cache search them |
| 20:11.50 | Ace2016_- | yea i think i may have read about it on the ubuntu forums |
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| 20:12.04 | Enron | stew this is what I was trynig to explain http://phpfi.com/341101 |
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| 20:12.17 | Enron | trying* |
| 20:12.27 | trakinas | i dont see any troubles on installing mysql and apache. |
| 20:12.33 | stew | akatsuki: show us the output of "apt-cache policy linux-image-2.6.24-19-generic" ; use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 20:13.19 | Ace2016_- | oh i think it had X in the name |
| 20:13.26 | Ace2016_- | X at the start maybe |
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| 20:13.52 | Ace2016_- | XAMPP!!! found it! |
| 20:13.54 | bartex | go |
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| 20:14.10 | trakinas | Ace2016_-: xamp?? xamp is for windows, isnt it? |
| 20:14.15 | eptalon | Ace2016_-: Amarok? |
| 20:14.25 | Ace2016_- | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=223410 |
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| 20:14.41 | HSorgYves | evening |
| 20:14.42 | keith4 | facepalms |
| 20:14.44 | Ace2016_- | this i read that before and i was searching to find it in the repos, i think its ubuntu only |
| 20:14.45 | trakinas | eptalon: no, he is talking about installing in a easy way mysql and apache |
| 20:15.01 | HSorgYves | to enable xst in php5 on debian, is it enough to install php5-xsl? |
| 20:15.34 | sc[a]sw | HSorgYves: I have yet to memorize every package in every repository |
| 20:15.41 | trakinas | i think people should stop looking for easiest way on doing somethings like setting up servers and db's and start working for real. |
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| 20:16.09 | eptalon | trakinas: Easier than apt-get install? |
| 20:16.19 | Ace2016_- | eptalon: still have to do the configs |
| 20:16.19 | abrotman | HSorgYves: try it ? |
| 20:16.19 | HSorgYves | sc[a]sw: could you please check, because it doesn't run |
| 20:16.31 | sc[a]sw | HSorgYves: apt-cache search |
| 20:16.32 | HSorgYves | abrotman: i did |
| 20:16.34 | eptalon | Ace2016_-: you will always have to |
| 20:16.36 | jelly-home | eptalon: and configuring it all and setting up initial passwrd, yes |
| 20:16.38 | Bleet` | hey, whenever I use apt-get, it asks for the debian CD. where do I change it so it downloads from internet instead? |
| 20:16.44 | abrotman | and you restarted apache and made sure it was enabled in the php.ini ? |
| 20:16.52 | abrotman | !tell Bleet` about sources.list |
| 20:16.59 | trakinas | eptalon: that was what u thought at first. |
| 20:17.00 | eptalon | Bleet`: /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 20:17.06 | ninix | is there a problem if i want to be a debian maintainer for a specific package, but i make it on a ubuntu system ? |
| 20:17.21 | abrotman | ninix: you'd need a debian system of some sort i'd wager |
| 20:17.23 | OpenTokix | Enron: yes |
| 20:17.23 | trakinas | eptalon: but i think that http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-linux.html alrady delivers a all configured server. |
| 20:17.25 | stew | that XAMPP looks like it makes a very nice and convenient way to make a server far more vulnerable. |
| 20:17.41 | ninix | abrotman: why that ? |
| 20:17.57 | abrotman | ninix: the packages aren't named the same ... and don't work the same |
| 20:17.58 | Enron | OpenTokix http://phpfi.com/341101 is what I was trying to explain |
| 20:18.06 | jelly-home | ninix: to build packages for debian, you'd need d's dependencies. a chroot would do |
| 20:18.08 | abrotman | ninix: don't even have all the same packages available |
| 20:18.16 | Ace2016_- | stew: its just for me to make a cms theme |
| 20:18.21 | HSorgYves | abrotman: how to enable it in php.ini |
| 20:18.25 | Enron | would you mind showing me an example of how I can do that with that scenario |
| 20:18.28 | abrotman | uncomment it |
| 20:18.57 | trakinas | Ace2016_-: you wont need half of those things there, then. |
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| 20:19.21 | ninix | even if i follow the maint-guide ? the package will not a be same as built in a debian machine? |
| 20:19.49 | OpenTokix | Enron: Imight be stupid here, but from your example you want file1 to be identical to file2? but sorted? |
| 20:19.57 | stew | Ace2016_-: sounds like a horrible idea |
| 20:20.10 | trakinas | Ace2016_-: if you are going to work only with wodpress, you will need php, mysql, apache and you are done. |
| 20:20.19 | Enron | the 2 files don't have equal amount of users |
| 20:20.30 | OpenTokix | Enron: ok |
| 20:20.31 | Enron | 1 has a list of 100 usernames, the other has a list of 200 usernames+password |
| 20:20.35 | dondelelcaro | Enron: do you want the union or the intersection? |
| 20:20.45 | OpenTokix | dondelelcaro: intersection so it seems |
| 20:20.48 | abrotman | the bashfaq has a sample using comm |
| 20:20.53 | trakinas | Ace2016_-: you dont need proFTPD, OpenLDAP, Webalizer, Ming... just to name a few. |
| 20:21.06 | Enron | I just need the additional info from file 2 to be in file 1 on the same username which is not on the same line number |
| 20:21.07 | Greyscale | Does anyone know if the IBM x23's plastic parts are the same as the x24? |
| 20:21.12 | Enron | did that make sense? lol |
| 20:21.18 | dondelelcaro | Enron: so use paste |
| 20:21.18 | abrotman | Greyscale: ##hardware |
| 20:21.19 | OpenTokix | Enron: the dirty dirty solituin would be to run thru the file2 with a grep from file1, 100 times =) |
| 20:21.28 | stew | Enron: what was wrong with the solution i gave you previously |
| 20:21.29 | Ace2016_- | na, i only need php and apache, i want a databaseless cms |
| 20:21.31 | Greyscale | abrotman, good idea. Thanks :) |
| 20:21.45 | dondelelcaro | (or stew's solution) |
| 20:21.46 | OpenTokix | Enron: for i in file1 do; grep file2 $i >> file3 |
| 20:22.24 | dondelelcaro | OpenTokix: yuck. man join |
| 20:22.41 | OpenTokix | danieldembach: I said dirty dirty =) |
| 20:22.42 | Enron | ok will try this out thank you, stew the person actually performing this was unable to get that to work. I'm trying to help him out he's on a deadline to get this sent to the other department |
| 20:22.50 | OpenTokix | danieldembach: maybe I would have said dirty dirty dirty =) |
| 20:23.12 | abrotman | wrong nick |
| 20:23.32 | dondelelcaro | OpenTokix: your solution is just join -1 1 -2 1 file1 file2; or something similar. |
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| 20:24.04 | HSorgYves | abrotman: thx it works |
| 20:24.12 | OpenTokix | danieldembach: I didnt know about join, will read on it in a minute, sounds awesome =) |
| 20:24.19 | trakinas | Ace2016_-: so, apt-get install apache2. |
| 20:25.00 | trakinas | Ace2016_-: plus php5 php4 mod_php |
| 20:25.06 | trakinas | and you are done. |
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| 20:25.32 | ndo | Hi guys, its me agane |
| 20:25.48 | Ace2016_- | trakinas: installing php5 drags the rest along thanks to the deps |
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| 20:26.05 | Paintman | #LHC-countdown |
| 20:26.08 | OpenTokix | trakinas: why php4? |
| 20:26.32 | trakinas | OpenTokix: i didnt know which one he was going to use. |
| 20:26.44 | ndo | now i would want toknow what are default lenny repositories, and why on earth are they not configured after a clean install? :( |
| 20:26.44 | ndo | anyone plz, ty :) |
| 20:26.47 | OpenTokix | trakinas: kk |
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| 20:26.59 | trakinas | Ace2016_-: sometimes i prefer to install thing separately |
| 20:27.05 | OpenTokix | ndo: you are asked about that during install |
| 20:27.13 | emijrp | watch end of universe in #LHC-countdown |
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| 20:27.45 | ndo | how does the question sound, because im pretty sure i havent had such a question? |
| 20:27.52 | Bleet` | isn't "deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian" a valid line in source.list? |
| 20:28.22 | OpenTokix | ndo: are ou in uk? |
| 20:28.29 | ndo | belgum |
| 20:28.59 | OpenTokix | ndo: |
| 20:29.00 | Enron | $ for i in failed.csv do; grep all.csv $i >> 3.txt |
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| 20:29.00 | Enron | bash: syntax error near unexpected token `grep' |
| 20:29.00 | OpenTokix | deb http://http.us.debian.skynet.be/ stable main contrib non-free |
| 20:29.01 | OpenTokix | deb http://security.debian.skynet.be/ stable/updates main contrib non-free |
| 20:29.15 | stew | Bleet`: /msg dpkg sources.list |
| 20:29.23 | stew | OpenTokix: you should use a release name instead of "stable" |
| 20:29.31 | ndo | ty :) love ya ;) |
| 20:29.34 | OpenTokix | stew: true, cnp |
| 20:29.44 | OpenTokix | ndo: exchange stable for "etch" |
| 20:29.45 | Enron | OpenTokix $ for i in failed.csv do; grep all.csv $i >> 3.txt and we get bash: syntax error near unexpected token `grep' |
| 20:29.51 | Enron | is it ; do |
| 20:29.55 | ndo | ohh |
| 20:30.00 | ndo | euhm |
| 20:30.06 | OpenTokix | Enron: Enron im not sure of the top of my head |
| 20:30.07 | stew | Enron: while read username ; do awk -F, '$1=="'$username'"{print}' file2 ; done < file1 |
| 20:30.12 | ndo | i would like for lenny, testing? can u? |
| 20:30.17 | OpenTokix | Enron: it was a lexial example, not a perfect line |
| 20:30.22 | OpenTokix | ndo: yes, or sid for unstable |
| 20:30.25 | stew | Enron: that line is missing a "done" to end the for statement |
| 20:30.38 | Enron | oh ty |
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| 20:30.56 | DawnLigh1 | i'm contemplating the uprchase of a new ultra-portable or a used portable for the same price. thoughts anyone? this is to be used with our beloved debian, of course |
| 20:31.02 | stew | Enron: using "grep" doesn't work with your example, since "user1" maches both "user1" and "user10" |
| 20:31.11 | stew | Enron: (which is why i'm recommending awk) |
| 20:31.11 | ndo | do i have to write there lenny instead of stable? |
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| 20:31.31 | trakinas | ndo: testing |
| 20:31.38 | ndo | oke, ty |
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| 20:32.07 | stew | ndo: you'd use 'lenny' of you want to stay with lenny when it releases or 'testing' if you want to stay with testing when lenny releases |
| 20:32.08 | ndo | do i also have to have src or not? |
| 20:32.19 | Enron | Stew that one worked however it only did 3 lines |
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| 20:32.22 | stew | ndo: not unless you are going to build stuff from source |
| 20:32.23 | trakinas | ndo: not always necessary. |
| 20:32.45 | stew | Enron: it should output one line for each username in both files |
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| 20:33.17 | Enron | I wonder if it's in uppercase on some naem |
| 20:33.19 | Enron | name* |
| 20:33.25 | ndo | aha, oke, good, ty, i want to stay with testing i guess:) |
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| 20:34.15 | HazzTheSpazz | sup |
| 20:34.21 | HazzTheSpazz | wait |
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| 20:35.29 | Enron | stew it was able to compare even with file 1 having username starting with uppercase and file 2 lower case, however it piped and dumped to 3.txt with only 3 lines which were correct but how do I make it do all |
| 20:35.52 | jpinx | trying to mount an ntfs partition identified by fdisk -l , but mount tells me it's not ntfs :( Any ideas anyone? |
| 20:36.07 | stew | Enron: what command did that? |
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| 20:36.26 | stew | jpinx: what does "file -s /dev/whatever" say that it is? |
| 20:36.31 | eptalon | jpinx: there are different versions of ntfs perhaps? |
| 20:36.38 | Enron | nvm stew we are stupid, it's cause of the case sensitive |
| 20:36.48 | Enron | is there a way to make it ignore that? i'm guessing not |
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| 20:37.31 | jpinx | stew: that tells me linux ext 3 (errors) |
| 20:37.46 | trakinas | i have to go. cheers |
| 20:38.00 | jpinx | now I'm seriously confused! |
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| 20:38.16 | stew | Enron: while read username ; do awk -F, 'toupper($1)==toupper("'$username'"){print}' file2 ; done < file1 |
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| 20:39.03 | stew | Enron: this will create a file where the case matches that of file2 |
| 20:39.20 | jpinx | it mounted as ext3! |
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| 20:41.02 | jescis | 0.o ntfs mounted as an ext3?! o.0 |
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| 20:41.30 | stew | jescis: no, ext3 which happens to be on a partition marked as ntfs |
| 20:41.41 | stew | jescis: but partition type doesn't mean much |
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| 20:42.17 | jescis | stew, It's still strange >_> |
| 20:42.41 | jpinx | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:42.44 | jescis | But what isn't strange at times ;) |
| 20:43.04 | jpinx | but fdisk -l seems to be a bit misleading..... |
| 20:43.28 | Lagbolt | jpinx, do you have blkid? does that tell you correctly what the filesystem is? |
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| 20:44.10 | jpinx | Lagbolt: tks - trying that |
| 20:44.48 | jpinx | heh - nice :) |
| 20:44.51 | eptalon | jpinx: ext2, jfs, xfs, FAT32, ntfs? (if the user was conservative, probably no jfs or xfs |
| 20:44.52 | Lagbolt | did it wokr? |
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| 20:45.55 | jpinx | Lagbolt - worked once - presently chewing on the next partition |
| 20:46.24 | Lagbolt | i hope it isnt chewing , that sounds like a bad thing ;) |
| 20:46.38 | jpinx | yea - spat out no reply :( |
| 20:46.40 | Enron | That worked Thank you so much. |
| 20:46.59 | Enron | had some problem with spaces but we took care of it. |
| 20:47.05 | Lagbolt | jpinx, is that the part that mounted ext3 but is labeled wrong? |
| 20:47.28 | jpinx | no - the ext3 with NTFS label works fine |
| 20:47.37 | jpinx | it's the others that are not responding |
| 20:47.57 | Lagbolt | ah , what do they show as in fdisk? anything? |
| 20:48.16 | jpinx | I'll post output in #flood |
| 20:48.35 | stew | as we've seen, fdisk -l doesn't know anything about filesystems, check with "file -s devicename" instead |
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| 20:48.58 | DJ-Marcuzz | hello |
| 20:48.59 | jpinx | stew - did that too |
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| 20:49.33 | jpinx | it's giving an io error :( |
| 20:51.29 | jpinx | fdisk -l tells me there are 4 other partitions hdc2,3,5 & 6 |
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| 20:52.17 | jpinx | 2 is giving an IO error, 3 is no such dir, and 5 is an IO error too |
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| 20:52.33 | jpinx | 6 is the old swap part - so I ignored that |
| 20:52.51 | stew | jpinx: what partition types are 2 and 3? |
| 20:53.42 | jpinx | stew: fdick -l gives them as Linux |
| 20:53.47 | jpinx | Ooops |
| 20:53.59 | jpinx | *fdisk -l |
| 20:54.06 | spikeb | not the first nor the last time i' |
| 20:54.08 | jpinx | freudian slip ;) |
| 20:54.09 | DJ-Marcuzz | after multiple hours of googling an fiddeling with my debian box i still don't have my wake on lan working, it works fine when i start the server and hit the powerbutton during the POST, but when i have fully booted the debian box and stop it with halt it wont boot from wake on lan anymore. |
| 20:54.09 | spikeb | ve seen that |
| 20:54.45 | stew | jpinx: which one is the extended partition? |
| 20:55.25 | jpinx | Stew 3 is according to fdisk, but file -s gives it a nonexistant |
| 20:55.42 | cheekee | Does anyone have a tutuorial on bash commands that they would like to share? |
| 20:55.43 | stew | jpinx: yes, 3 contains 5 and 6 |
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| 20:55.54 | cheekee | Does anyone have a tutuorial on bash commands that they would like to share?tutorial |
| 20:55.58 | jpinx | yea - that's what I reckon |
| 20:56.08 | jpinx | it's an old debian install from sarge |
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| 20:57.07 | sc[a]sw | man |
| 20:57.27 | sc[a]sw | cheekee: man |
| 20:57.30 | DJ-Marcuzz | does somebody have an idea how to get the WoL working? |
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| 20:58.19 | stew | cheekee: /topic #bash |
| 20:58.27 | cheekee | man is hard to understand |
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| 20:59.17 | ArmEagle | hmm, something made samba be updated to 3.2.0, and I have this idea that that requires some extra settings in the smb.conf file, cause smbd is looking for my /mnt/store share as /var/lib/samba/usershares/stor |
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| 20:59.45 | ArmEagle | and well, i was smart enough to throw away the sare conf file the installer added |
| 20:59.58 | ltbarcly | ok, this is driving me crazy |
| 21:00.06 | ltbarcly | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:00.13 | cheekee | ok! comprendo bien |
| 21:00.13 | ltbarcly | it goes through the installation, etc, not able to find the boot disk afterwards |
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| 21:00.23 | ltbarcly | so I booted up a rescue disk and looked around ,everything was fine |
| 21:00.26 | cheekee | lol |
| 21:00.31 | ltbarcly | I mounted the drive to try to do a reintsall of grub, and when I mount a drive, my /bin disapears from the rescue drive |
| 21:00.40 | ltbarcly | so I can't chroot, because chroot is in /bin |
| 21:00.48 | ltbarcly | how the hell does a directory just disapear? |
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| 21:01.06 | ltbarcly | it seems to be some kind of issue with grub, but what the issue is I have no idea |
| 21:01.22 | ltbarcly | I previously had ubuntu 8.04 running on this identical hardware with no issues |
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| 21:01.44 | ltbarcly | I tried wiping the drive with dd and /dev/zero, then starting over |
| 21:01.50 | ltbarcly | no luck, same exact problems |
| 21:02.11 | ltbarcly | has anyone seen anything like this? |
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| 21:04.16 | B_Raven | Having some serious issues with an external harddrive. Getting "error -71". Worked previously on a different port, which I had the bad luck of breaking (mounted on top of the box, broke the plastic piece in the port) Anyone have any suggestions? |
| 21:04.45 | ArmEagle | hmm, debian is now using some sort of net usershare for samba? |
| 21:05.12 | B_Raven | Oh, plugging the drive in not only produces the error message, but also makes parts of KDE freeze. Probably a symptom of the error. |
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| 21:10.28 | P4C0 | hello guys, can someone tell me how to set up a wifi card in debian using wpa?? I'm slackware user and this is done really easy there but here I have no idea... and can't find anything on google... |
| 21:10.45 | P4C0 | to start with i don't have a wpa_supplicant.conf |
| 21:10.55 | scintilla | va , ciao a tutti a domani |
| 21:11.25 | P4C0 | nor any example on network/interfaces on how to set up wpa |
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| 21:12.37 | user__ | hello - why do i have to click on the play symbol in webpages containing flash? how to make the flash play by default? debian testing, iceweasel, default desktop install, swfdec mozilla plugin |
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| 21:13.41 | ffm|sh | How do I get the source of a package if I have a dsc file? |
| 21:13.50 | SeveredCross | user__: Um, that's not something that you can modify, that's up to the Flash video file. |
| 21:13.54 | SeveredCross | Unless swfdec overrides that. |
| 21:14.40 | stew | ffm|sh: do you have a URL to a dsc? |
| 21:15.30 | stew | ffm|sh: or where did the dsc come from? the other source files are in the same directory as the dsc |
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| 21:16.06 | screamingbytes | i havnt played gnome nethack in a long time, forgot how much fun it was ;) |
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| 21:17.28 | user__ | SeveredCross: its for all advertisements (quite nice actually) but also for every nice flash app. how could i try to tweak swfdec? |
| 21:17.30 | ffm|sh | stew: I used dget to get the source, how would I go about upgrading for a new upstream version? |
| 21:17.33 | plb_ | quick question..I'm using this no-ip free dns thing and when I go here: https://null.no-ip.org/foo/ I get not found but here https://null.no-ip.org/foo/index.html does? |
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| 21:18.04 | stew | ffm|sh: if the package has a watch file, you can use uscan to fetch new upstream source |
| 21:19.12 | mistern0th1ng__ | plb_: Sounds like your httpd config file is not set up to recognize index.html as the directory index page. I forget the correct term for it. |
| 21:19.28 | plb_ | but it works fine if i use localhost |
| 21:19.38 | plb_ | e.g. https://localhost/foo |
| 21:19.52 | plb_ | I don't need the index.thml there |
| 21:20.21 | mistern0th1ng__ | plb_: It's working for me |
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| 21:20.31 | mistern0th1ng__ | "Hello World!" |
| 21:20.40 | plb_ | hm |
| 21:20.44 | plb_ | weird |
| 21:20.44 | ffm|sh | stew: I have in my dir a orig, a gzipped diff, and a dsc. |
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| 21:21.06 | plb_ | https://null.no-ip.org/foo/ == Hello World? |
| 21:21.09 | stew | ffm|sh: you can extrace the source with "dpkg-source -x foo.dsc" |
| 21:21.21 | stew | ffm|sh: or when you download with dget, you can use -x to extract the source after downloading |
| 21:21.22 | mistern0th1ng__ | plb_: Yes sir |
| 21:21.30 | plb_ | wth why doesn't it work for me |
| 21:21.47 | stew | ffm|sh: after you extrace the source, if you want to fetch a newer .orig.tar.gz, check to see if it has a debian/watch file (which can be used with uscan) |
| 21:21.58 | mistern0th1ng__ | plb_: Not sure |
| 21:22.12 | plb_ | that doesn't make much sense |
| 21:22.40 | B_Raven | Got a troublesome external drive which has worked previously. When using ehci I get a error -71, and KDE eventually freezes for some reason. Disabled ehci and now I get an -110 error, but no freeze. Think I might have fried the usb controller in the external harddrive. Would this be a reasonable assumption? |
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| 21:23.58 | davi | How to reconfigure the monitor resolution? |
| 21:24.13 | stew | davi: in what version of debian? |
| 21:24.27 | mistern0th1ng__ | B_Raven: Got an spare harddrive to test your guess with? |
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| 21:24.34 | davi | stew, lenny updated today |
| 21:24.41 | netcrash | hello , I need to resize a image file to a bigger size , any tips ? resize2fs says it does not recognise the block device |
| 21:24.49 | stew | davi: you can use xrandr to change it at runtime, or edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 21:25.09 | davi | stew, let me try xrandr |
| 21:25.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | !drxx |
| 21:25.11 | dpkg | To reconfigure your X server, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as root. If you're not using Xorg (sarge or earlier), dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 but ask me about <sarge->etch>. |
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| 21:25.22 | stew | CutMeOwnThroat: not for lenny |
| 21:25.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | not? |
| 21:25.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | hmmm |
| 21:25.40 | B_Raven | mistern0th1ng__, It's a sealed external box, so if I open it the warranty goes out the door, as will probably the stuff in the box if it does function. |
| 21:25.48 | stew | CutMeOwnThroat: it doesn't ask you anything about screen resolution, as that is all detected when you start x by default |
| 21:26.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh, didn't know that |
| 21:26.47 | mistern0th1ng__ | B_Raven: Try it on another computer, if you get the same results, either you void your warranty, or (potentially) loose all your data when you send it in for repair. |
| 21:27.09 | davi | stew, I am going to try "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" again due to I miss my 1400x---- mode, after upgrading from etch to lenny. |
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| 21:29.03 | B_Raven | mistern0th1ng__, sucks to not have a second computer sitting around. Was working 30 mins ago at a friends computer, but accidentaly broke an USB plug with the usb cable while it was actually turned on, which is why I suspect something fried. |
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| 21:30.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | davi, also, for certain chipsets/resolutions there are additional packages hacking the bios - e.g. 915resolution |
| 21:30.22 | mistern0th1ng__ | B_Raven: That sounds a bit odd; have you tried the old-fashion windows reboot? |
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| 21:31.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | but that might be also obsolete due to the randr stuff :) |
| 21:31.46 | B_Raven | mistern0th1ng__, Rebooted a few times, both with it connected and without. Tried turning off ehci. Different usb ports. Have my keyboard and mouse connected on the same controller, so fairly sure that actually works. |
| 21:32.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | feels his knowledge about these things is outdated... nobody's writing his own modelines anymore |
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| 21:33.48 | AljosHa | Hello folks, how can i fix "depmod: QM_MODULES: Function not implemented" ? |
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| 21:34.48 | B_Raven | mistern0th1ng__, Tempted to just open the box and toss the drive inside the computer, but would rather avoid destroying the external box unless it's the only way to get the data off it. |
| 21:35.17 | n3kl | What is a good network diagramming tool? |
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| 21:35.24 | n3kl | s/mm/m |
| 21:35.58 | screamingbytes | i havn't for about a year or so |
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| 21:36.21 | screamingbytes | modelines were kind of a pain especially on mon's w/o documentation |
| 21:36.35 | AljosHa | soo? |
| 21:36.39 | mistern0th1ng__ | B_Raven: I'm googling the error right now and one of the threads I found (on the ubuntu forums) indicates connection was possible when ehci was turned off |
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| 21:37.18 | B_Raven | mistern0th1ng__, I tried that, changed the error from -71 to -110 (which from what I've read is a timeout error) |
| 21:37.25 | mfaraci | can i control client side nfs request ports, in other words i need to know what ports the client will use to allow firewall rules, ive seen some documentation on server side, but wasnt sure if there is a way to specify on client besides mount_nfs port= which doesnt work for me |
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| 21:38.57 | jpinx | back to recovering an old hdd - df tells me that one partition is udev, but mount doesn't recognise that |
| 21:38.59 | Ryan52 | Is there a way for me to tell whether a ethernet cable is plugged in...I know it's possible because there's stuff in dmesg. But I'm hoping there's a cleaner way then grepping dmesg... |
| 21:39.25 | mistern0th1ng__ | B_Raven: Grab the screw driver and a hammer! |
| 21:39.47 | B_Raven | mistern0th1ng__, So, it's probably a goner, then? |
| 21:41.01 | AljosHa | Can anyone help me with "depmod: QM_MODULES: Function not implemented" i havent found any usefull help except recompiling of kernel |
| 21:41.19 | mistern0th1ng__ | B_Raven: I am of no further assistance. I wish I was, but I don't have any other suggestions. It's already INOP so you mine as well yank the drive and purchase a new enclosure at a store/online for 20 bucks. |
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| 21:43.12 | B_Raven | Well, at least I managed to pry open the access "hatch" on the thing, and not hit the controller card or somesuch :P |
| 21:43.15 | stew | Ryan52: you can have hal tell, but that involves coding. you might look at how ifplugd works or if it could help |
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| 21:43.34 | stew | AljosHa: did you enable loadable module support in your kernel? |
| 21:43.39 | mistern0th1ng__ | B_Raven: Best of luck to you mate! |
| 21:43.41 | rafa | http://pastebin.com/d4d23196e |
| 21:43.43 | stew | AljosHa: is there some reason you aren't using a debian compiled kernel? |
| 21:43.46 | blizzow | What's the aptitude command to search for what package provides an individual file? |
| 21:43.50 | rafa | help-me http://pastebin.com/d4d23196e |
| 21:44.00 | AljosHa | it is debian compiled, but it is of isp where i bought server... |
| 21:44.16 | B_Raven | Thanks, and thanks for the help. |
| 21:44.26 | mistern0th1ng__ | My pleasure. |
| 21:44.30 | Ryan52 | stew: okay, thanks. |
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| 21:45.12 | stew | rafa: you were here before as allos_nerelin ? |
| 21:45.41 | TromBoeZoe | hi. i am looking for an english ( or german ) to italian translation program ? |
| 21:45.53 | stew | blizzow: there isn't one. are you asking about a package that is already installed? or one that hasn't yet been installed? |
| 21:46.11 | blizzow | stew, one that hasn't yet been installed. |
| 21:46.17 | stew | blizzow: /msg dpkg apt-file |
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| 21:47.34 | rafa | stew ???? |
| 21:47.36 | rafa | allos? |
| 21:47.39 | TromBoeZoe | any ideas ? |
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| 21:48.14 | rafa | msg dpkg allos |
| 21:48.18 | rafa | msg dpkg allos_nerelin |
| 21:48.21 | tango_ | hello all, I'm seeing a strange situation here: if I try to access a local machine via ssh or ping, it says the host is unknown. however, both the host and dig command find it all right |
| 21:48.24 | TromBoeZoe | i just want to translate one word from german to italien or to english then to italien :D |
| 21:48.39 | stew | rafa: what does "file DawnIRCd-1.0.tar.gz" return? |
| 21:48.39 | rafa | <dpkg> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, rafa |
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| 21:48.50 | tango_ | could it be that ssh and ping are using a different dns than host and dig are? |
| 21:49.04 | blizzow | I see. Ok. how about this, is there a heartbeat-gui for etch? Apparently it doesn't come in the heartbeat2 package. |
| 21:49.42 | stew | ahh, it is ts allos_nerelin |
| 21:49.56 | rafa | stew unpack it on FreeBSD, but not in the unpack debian! |
| 21:50.12 | mfaraci | can i control client side nfs request ports, in other words i need to know what ports the client will use to allow firewall rules, ive seen some documentation on server side, but wasnt sure if there is a way to specify on client besides mount_nfs port= which doesnt work for me |
| 21:51.03 | TromBoeZoe | is there an application which i can translate from german to italien words ? |
| 21:51.12 | AljosHa | stew: what you think ? |
| 21:51.38 | stew | AljosHa: what does "uname -r" return? |
| 21:51.47 | streuner | TromBoeZoe: try altavista.com -> babelfish |
| 21:52.07 | TromBoeZoe | thanx streuner |
| 21:52.40 | streuner | http://babelfish.yahoo.com/ |
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| 21:52.51 | streuner | but only for english and french, not for italian |
| 21:52.53 | ribnitz | heyas. |
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| 21:54.00 | streuner | LTNS |
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| 21:54.40 | TromBoeZoe | streuner, no prob. i did it from german to english and from there to italien ... for that word it ok :D (aspettativa) |
| 21:54.52 | ribnitz | how do I fix UTF8 charsets? |
| 21:54.58 | streuner | sure, that possible too :-) |
| 21:55.01 | ribnitz | they do not work in some terminals. |
| 21:55.33 | streuner | sure, that's possible too :-) |
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| 21:56.16 | korn_ | hello |
| 21:56.37 | korn_ | I cannot find the syntax of a for loop in debian/rules |
| 21:56.57 | pipeline | debian/rules is just a shell script |
| 21:57.07 | screamingbytes | ? |
| 21:57.12 | stew | pipeline: no, its a makefile |
| 21:57.13 | screamingbytes | you mean bash? |
| 21:57.46 | korn_ | http://rafb.net/p/xlKRvy86.html this loop fails with: /bin/sh: Syntax error: end of file unexpected (expecting "done") |
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| 21:58.33 | stew | korn_: you need a ; before done |
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| 21:59.34 | korn_ | stew: so this should work? http://rafb.net/p/uqV3e823.html |
| 22:00.00 | stew | korn_: yes |
| 22:00.06 | rafa | \o\ |
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| 22:01.16 | fujin | hi, anyone familiar with reprepro? |
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| 22:01.57 | screamingbytes | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:03.00 | micols | how do i change hostname without restarting? |
| 22:03.00 | xand | !anyone |
| 22:03.01 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls>, or <search> |
| 22:03.15 | xand | micols: use the hostname command, and edit /etc/hosts |
| 22:03.15 | stew | screamingbytes: yes, that is what he is doing, he just left off the ; before done |
| 22:03.37 | mfaraci | where would i specify specific ports for mountd and statd |
| 22:03.43 | xand | micols: generally you only need to restart for hardware or kernel upgrades. |
| 22:03.46 | micols | xand: /etc/hostnames you mean? |
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| 22:04.14 | stew | micols: no /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts |
| 22:04.27 | micols | why /etc/hosts? |
| 22:04.48 | stew | micols: so that your hostname resolves to an ip and is associated with a fqdn |
| 22:04.50 | AljosHa | stew:2.6.25.4gen-dirty |
| 22:04.58 | xand | oh, and /etc/hostname yes. |
| 22:05.00 | AljosHa | stew: 2.6.25.4gen-dirty |
| 22:05.05 | stew | AljosHa: that is not compiled by debian |
| 22:05.11 | davi | CutMeOwnThroat, I using the 'nv' driver for nvidia hardware. Do you know if there if some additional packages hacking the bios of nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] ? |
| 22:05.20 | korn_ | stew: http://rafb.net/p/ZCWIQ299.html why is $i not substituted but deleted? |
| 22:05.21 | n3kl | What is it that, when I press volume up, there is this thing that comes up and whos me that the volume is increasing. Anyone know what that is? |
| 22:05.38 | stew | korn_: ues $$i |
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| 22:07.02 | mfaraci | where would i specify specific ports for mountd and statd |
| 22:07.21 | c_korn | loves bash syntax |
| 22:08.02 | n3kl | mfaraci: /etc/default/nfs-common |
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| 22:08.43 | micols | is nfs in etch version 3 or 4? |
| 22:08.47 | micols | nfs kernel server |
| 22:08.59 | micols | on newest kernel |
| 22:09.10 | mfaraci | 4 |
| 22:09.26 | micols | so lets say i have an etch client , that would be nfs 3? |
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| 22:09.59 | Sebboh | hi. How much ram does the kernel in this package support? linux-image-2.6.18-6-xen-686 .. |
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| 22:11.04 | mfaraci | n3kl can i specify RPCMOUNTDOPTS in nfs-common? |
| 22:12.20 | AljosHa | ok |
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| 22:13.52 | n3kl | mfaraci: nfs-kernel-server |
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| 22:17.09 | xiantia | hi all |
| 22:17.32 | c_korn | stew: it is working. thanks. |
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| 22:18.54 | stew | AljosHa: what does "zgrep CONFIG_MODULES /proc/config.gz" return? |
| 22:19.07 | jpinx | I've cfdisk'd my 32Gb USB stick and it shows a vfat partition for the whole device, but I can't mount it - it's telling me vfat is the wrong fs type. Any clues anyone? |
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| 22:20.57 | stew | jpinx: did you actually create a filesystem? |
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| 22:21.56 | n3kl | Anyone know a good network diagraming tool? |
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| 22:22.20 | stew | n3kl: there is dia, dunno about 'good' |
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| 22:23.30 | adamb | Anyone know if its possible to have rsyncd, configured where a client can only upload files, and not download? |
| 22:25.56 | Slike | hi, a friend of mine's got a testing pc with a version of debian on it, but he doesn't know which branch |
| 22:26.08 | Slike | is there a way to get that information? |
| 22:26.47 | stew | Slike: compare the installed version of libc6 with available versions from http://packages.debian.org/libc6 |
| 22:27.03 | stew | adamb: seems like something you could do via unix filesystem permissions |
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| 22:27.45 | adamb | stew: as in write and not read... |
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| 22:28.28 | trumpen | Slike, "cat /etc/debian_version" or "lsb_release -a" in a terminal should give you some info |
| 22:28.37 | stew | adamb: yes |
| 22:28.42 | adamb | stew: well I have 50+ servers using rsync to backup to a rsyncd server, using the secret files, so if one of the 50 boxes is compromised, they can just issue the command and download all the backups from all servers, im trying to prevent this. |
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| 22:29.21 | stew | well no, nevermind. i guess rsync is kind of useless when it can't read |
| 22:29.27 | rahsputin | hi, i am using fluxbox, and i have made some manipulations to the background.jpg, is there a way to refresh the background without having to restart X, cause i am listening to Joes Garage from Zappa and don't wanna stop listening ;D |
| 22:29.41 | adamb | stew: yeah |
| 22:29.54 | adamb | any suggestions though? |
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| 22:30.26 | jpinx | what filesystems does mkfs support? They don't appear to be listed in the man page |
| 22:30.50 | stew | adamb: have the backup server pull instead of having the other machines push to the backup server |
| 22:31.32 | stew | jpinx: mkfs is just a big switch to call other programs like mkfs.ext3 or mkfs.vfat, so it depends on what other programs are installed |
| 22:31.48 | adamb | stew: yeah, are you using ssh keys, rsync secret key, or what type of auth? |
| 22:31.54 | jpinx | Hmm -- mkfs isn't a package |
| 22:32.06 | stew | adamb: ssh-keys |
| 22:32.21 | stew | jpinx: try "ls /sbin/mkfs*" |
| 22:32.37 | adamb | yeah, I dont want to have root ssh keys on boxes really.. |
| 22:32.48 | stew | adamb: why? |
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| 22:34.02 | stew | adamb: if attacker gets read access to the box with the backup of the server, you already lost. that's at least my theory |
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| 22:34.51 | micols | how do i mount /tmp to /dev/sde1 ? |
| 22:35.00 | micols | when that is normal fs |
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| 22:35.20 | micols | i got data on that disk, but i want to mount it as /tmp |
| 22:35.26 | micols | as my other disk died. |
| 22:35.44 | micols | cant i make a folder on /dev/sde1 and mount that one one on /tmp ? |
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| 22:36.10 | jpinx | stew: that doesn't list vfat :( |
| 22:36.20 | stew | jpinx: install dosfstools |
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| 22:36.35 | jpinx | ok |
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| 22:36.46 | garotosopa | When I do ctrl+shift+numlock for using the mouse with the numpad, is it possible to drag and drop things? |
| 22:39.28 | jpinx | thanks stew -- fs made and mounted succesfully :D |
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| 22:40.35 | zyx386 | hi |
| 22:41.38 | zyx386 | can i install debian on disk witout erase it, create new partion because have another OS? i f yes how? manual and --? |
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| 22:46.37 | zyx386 | ANY IDEA? |
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| 22:47.29 | zyx386 | :) |
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| 22:51.53 | linuxguy | Ive just got Denians L:eeny from a mag cover DVD..its supposed to be KDE to but theres no instructions to get the KDE install.only advanced options.anyone know how to install the KDE Desktop as default please? |
| 22:53.31 | dondelelcaro | linuxguy: just install the desktop and select kde in gdm, or only install the packages you want, and install kde, and don't install gnome. |
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| 22:56.06 | linuxguy | dondelelcaro, I cant see a way of doing that there musy be a way via command line line in Etch which was installgui tasks=kde-desktop, standard" |
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| 22:58.19 | linuxguy | dondelelcaro, .its ok.that was what i needed to use.same command :) |
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| 22:58.40 | mitnavn | Hi, I'm a newbie :) I was wondering if you can split your bandwidth on 3 users? I can only find guides to splitting it on a range of IPs |
| 22:59.13 | Sebboh | Hi. I've got a 64-bit intel CPU that's no IA64. What arch should I pick packages from? |
| 22:59.21 | Sebboh | *not |
| 22:59.41 | enouf | either i386 or amd64 |
| 22:59.58 | Slike | ok, thx for the tips, he must have a plenty old sarge system |
| 23:00.06 | Slike | 2.4.27 kernel :S |
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| 23:00.38 | Slike | is there a way for him to regenerate a default sources.list or something? |
| 23:00.48 | Slike | he tells me something's wrong with it |
| 23:00.56 | Slike | don't know if it's gone, or in a bad shape |
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| 23:01.25 | Sebboh | enouf, as I suspected. Thank you. |
| 23:01.57 | enouf | Sebboh: np - i386 is the 32bit one |
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| 23:02.57 | tvynr | !xmms |
| 23:02.57 | dpkg | it has been said that xmms is the old X MultiMedia System media player. It has been removed from Debian (although it is still in etch), see http://packages.qa.debian.org/x/xmms/news/20080302T105714Z.html) For alternatives, look at <xmms2>, <rhythmbox>, <amarok>, exaile, songbird, quod libet ... see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2007/07/msg00026.html for removal reasons |
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| 23:03.23 | tvynr | Is there anyone I can ask about changing that xmms message text there? |
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| 23:03.35 | Sebboh | enouf, I've always used i386.. But we're about to put 4gb of ram in the box.. So.. I guess it's time to put a 64 bit OS on there, too. |
| 23:03.58 | tvynr | Sebboh: Yeah... I forgot to think about DMA and my 32-bit laptop is only addressing 3.6Gb. :-P |
| 23:04.34 | wols | Sebboh: 4GB is borderline, really |
| 23:04.46 | tvynr | wols: How so? |
| 23:04.47 | wols | Sebboh: just use a amd64 kernel only |
| 23:05.01 | tvynr | wols: Because the apps don't need full access to the address space? |
| 23:05.05 | wols | depending on video you lose about 0,5 to 0,75GB |
| 23:05.05 | Sebboh | tvynr, well, for 32bit hardware, I guess there's PAE.. But I've got 64 bit hardware, so, screw all else, I'll just use it. Anyway, we'll probably need 8gb in the same box next year.. |
| 23:05.25 | enouf | Sebboh: you could - or just use the i386 -686-bigmem kernel |
| 23:05.32 | enouf | Sebboh: up to you |
| 23:05.43 | Sebboh | the big-mem kernel is PAE? |
| 23:05.47 | tvynr | Sebboh: Yeah, prolly best to be prepped for it then. I've got 6Gb in my workstation right now. Mmm... disk caching... |
| 23:05.51 | enouf | yeah Sebboh |
| 23:05.56 | wols | Sebboh: why not use a amd64 kernel? |
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| 23:06.11 | Sebboh | wols, that's what I'm going to do, afaik. :) |
| 23:06.19 | Sebboh | Just learnin'. :) |
| 23:06.21 | tvynr | wols, enouf: I see you fellows here a lot, so you probably know protocol. To whom do I speak about getting some of those macro texts in the dpkg bot changed? |
| 23:06.23 | wols | tvynr: 64bit programs need more memory offsetting somewhat the additional usable 0,5GB |
| 23:06.35 | tvynr | wols: Ah, yes. Good point. |
| 23:06.36 | wols | tvynr: you can change it yourself |
| 23:06.43 | tvynr | wols: Oh? No approval process? |
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| 23:06.50 | wols | Sebboh: an AMD64 kernel on i386 |
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| 23:07.07 | wols | not an AMD64 kernel on AMD64 |
| 23:07.07 | enouf | tvynr: no, we self-police |
| 23:07.58 | tvynr | wols, enouf: Cool. :) You know the XMMS-isn't-maintained-anymore thing? I've spoken with several people who are irritated because all of the other multimedia players are much more full featured and iTunes-ey. |
| 23:08.27 | tvynr | wols, enouf: But I just found out about Audacious. :-D I figured we should edit the !xmms text to include audacious as a strong recommendation, since it can be made to behave almost exactly like XMMS. |
| 23:08.36 | enouf | kind of, it's been replaced by xmms2 i guess |
| 23:08.59 | enouf | tvynr: sure, have at it ;-) |
| 23:09.04 | Sebboh | wols, I dunno, I might use amd64 everything. Considering that "everything" = the kernel and a couple of daemons. It's the prod box.. I'll just surf the mailing lists for a bit. |
| 23:09.14 | tvynr | enouf: XMMS2 isn't really anything like XMMS. :( How do I edit the bot's text? |
| 23:09.43 | Sebboh | dpkg, xmms2 isn't really anything like xmms. |
| 23:09.43 | dpkg | Sebboh: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
| 23:09.43 | enouf | tvynr: i know they are not alike |
| 23:09.54 | enouf | !listkeys xmms |
| 23:09.56 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'xmms' by key (15): xmms2 ;; alsa-xmms ;; xmms ;; _default xmms ;; xmms-lirc ;; realplayer xmms ;; /.xmms/menurc ;; xmms-config ;; xmms realplayer ;; #debian xmms ;; xmms-avi ;; xmms plugins ;; look in xmms ;; xmms-aac ;; xmms-vorbis. |
| 23:10.08 | blizzow | I have yet to find a player as good as XMMS. I wish the maintainers would add it back to stable, and future versions. |
| 23:10.14 | Sebboh | .. ok, apparently robots don't speak with contractions? :) Anywho. |
| 23:10.31 | enouf | file wish list bugs |
| 23:10.36 | enouf | or add to ones already there |
| 23:10.54 | blizzow | Maybe it's at forwardports.debian.org? |
| 23:10.56 | blizzow | ;) |
| 23:11.09 | Sebboh | Back to the future! |
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| 23:14.50 | tvynr | blizzow: I was just talking about that, actually. Install Audacious. |
| 23:14.59 | tvynr | blizzow: And switch it to the "Renegade" skin. |
| 23:15.06 | tvynr | blizzow: You can hardly tell the difference. :) |
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| 23:15.30 | tvynr | enouf: I'm still not clear on how to edit the contents of the xmms key on the bot. |
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| 23:16.48 | Agiofws | does anyone know how i can display n019024l.pfb those fonts ? |
| 23:17.28 | SerajewelKS | hrm, drxx no longer asks me about my video card... |
| 23:17.29 | tvynr | !listkeys edit |
| 23:17.31 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'edit' by key (15 of 32): #debian start an editor war ;; #debian-bots start an editor war ;; _default edit ;; _default jedit ;; _default nedit ;; _default start an editor war ;; am_edit better ;; binary editor ;; credit ;; edit pdf ;; editor ;; one true editor ;; real man's text editor ;; start an editor war ;; start an html editor war. |
| 23:17.49 | tvynr | !real man's text editor |
| 23:17.49 | dpkg | from memory, real man's text editor is dd |
| 23:17.51 | wols | SerajewelKS: welcome to lenny+ |
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| 23:18.01 | wols | !tell tvynr about msg the bot |
| 23:18.09 | tvynr | thanks, wols |
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| 23:18.43 | SerajewelKS | wols: so it's manual configuration then? |
| 23:18.54 | tvynr | wols: Any idea how I get the bot to tell me how to edit one of its factoids? |
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| 23:19.20 | wols | SerajewelKS: worse. autoconfiguration |
| 23:19.40 | tvynr | SerajewelKS: It produces an almost empty /etc/X11/xorg.conf and guesses the right values on startup. |
| 23:19.58 | SerajewelKS | well then it has a very ass-backwards definition of "right" |
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| 23:20.04 | tvynr | SerajewelKS: If you don't like its behavior, you can always fill in values in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf yourself. For instance, mine has the text Driver "nv" in the video device section. |
| 23:20.25 | SerajewelKS | tvynr: indeed, it is picking vesa above nv and nvidia, both of which would work |
| 23:21.11 | tvynr | SerajewelKS: Wow. That's kinda surprising. Well, it's a feature of the new Xorg so I imagine there's some resources on the web somewhere that talk about the autoconfig and how to control it. Sadly, I'm not familiar. :) |
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| 23:21.46 | smo | hi |
| 23:21.52 | tvynr | smo: Welcome |
| 23:21.53 | jimisrvrox | POS Iceweasal...wont let me install addon's..wished I knew why the hell its doing that..plus..myspace api's are taking too damn long to refresh.. |
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| 23:22.36 | smo | where i work they use debian etch for 90% of the pc (good) but is it normal to run debian 4.0 etch on workstations? |
| 23:22.40 | blizzow | tvynr: I 've got Audacious. It's ok, but nowhere near the number of vis plugins, seeking is slower, and it has hangups about playing certain mp3/ogg files that xmms seems to have no problem with. |
| 23:23.05 | smo | so we have firefox 2 for exemple :( |
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| 23:23.29 | tvynr | smo: Depends on how stable those workstations need to be. I'd keep my workstations running Lenny if I had the choice, but they may be concerned about a package getting into testing and causing a mess. |
| 23:23.37 | kingsley | Two disk partitions overlap. Is my assumption correct that after deleting one, fsck will know if the remaining one is OK? |
| 23:23.38 | SerajewelKS | tvynr: yeah it is odd. i put in Driver "nvidia" and poof, i get widescreen :) |
| 23:23.41 | smo | i work for a frenc isp |
| 23:23.50 | smo | so we just need mail and browser... |
| 23:23.55 | smo | really |
| 23:23.56 | tvynr | blizzow: Hmm... I haven't played with it a lot, I have to say. |
| 23:24.13 | wols | smo: of course it is normal |
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| 23:24.47 | tvynr | blizzow: I haven't had any difficulties with it yet. Not sure what to tell you about it hanging on those files. Does stdout/stderr have anything useful? |
| 23:24.50 | smo | if they run updates directly on every pc i can understand |
| 23:24.59 | smo | but they use images... |
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| 23:25.18 | tvynr | kingsley: You shouldn't even have to delete the other partition; fsck should be able to read the device and check things out. But I'd delete said other partition before fscking and repairing. |
| 23:25.19 | smo | where s the problem? |
| 23:25.37 | tvynr | kingsley: Also, it's possible for your data to have been damaged but not the filesystem metadata... in which case fsck won't find it. |
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| 23:28.10 | jimisrvrox | POS Iceweasal...wont let me install addon's..wished I knew why the hell its doing that..plus..myspace api's are taking too damn long to refresh.. |
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| 23:28.19 | blizzow | tvynr: not as far as I've seen. I haven't stuck around to figure it out. I usually just open it in some other even more bloated client if it locks up. |
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| 23:29.17 | enn | Hello ... has anyone seen problems with the xorg in unstable crashing on start? I'm getting an "Error in I830WaitLpRing" |
| 23:29.18 | tvynr | blizzow: Ah. Visualization has never been something I cared about and Audacious hasn't given me any trouble yet. My only real complaint is that I don't know what font XMMS was using to display the playlist, so I have to adjust to some other font now. But that's okay. |
| 23:29.29 | Agiofws | anyone know how the hell i SEE a f... GSfont in debian lenny ? like c059036l.pfb |
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| 23:31.55 | gkffjcs_ | after a dist upgrade, my internet is really really slow, and i keep having to re add a dns server in the system --> netwok dialog, because it dissapears, and then I am left with no internet. |
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| 23:34.19 | extor | What is a nice simple benchmarking script that requires zero to no configuration and nicely spits out it's results after 5 minutes or so? |
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| 23:36.12 | abrotman | benchmark of what? |
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| 23:37.04 | extor | cpu power |
| 23:37.15 | extor | dont care so much about network or hard disk bottlenecks |
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| 23:46.19 | zamba | i need some help installing lilo on a CF card.. after installation i only get "L" when booting |
| 23:46.29 | zamba | according to different howtos this relates to a geometry mismatch |
| 23:47.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | interesting, for most things cpu power is not so important - and if it is, you should use the application that uses up all that cpu power as a benchmark... |
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| 23:47.12 | zamba | this could also be related to some mismatch between bios and drive |
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| 23:48.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | aren't these cards recognized in a similar way as usb sticks? |
| 23:48.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | do they have a "geometry" anyways? |
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| 23:49.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | zamba, perhaps you get some interesting warning with lilo -v ... or you're lucky and switching to grub makes it "just work"? |
| 23:50.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | (just saying that to suggest something, so you're not alone in your misery :) |
| 23:50.32 | rahsputin | how do i access my Cell-Phone via Bluetooth USB-stick ( that is supported ) ? |
| 23:50.56 | rahsputin | I want to take away some Photos from the Phone |
| 23:51.21 | rahsputin | i mean how can i display and enter the Directories on my Cell-Phone |
| 23:51.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | rahsputin, mount it |
| 23:51.49 | rahsputin | and the files-system is called ? |
| 23:52.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | actually not sure if that works (it might) check with dmesg, if some type of filesystem is recognized |
| 23:52.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | uh |
| 23:52.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | bluetooth, too |
| 23:52.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | I thought you could connect via usb directly |
| 23:53.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:53.46 | rahsputin | and now :| |
| 23:53.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | rahsputin, how much did you get to work until now? |
| 23:54.16 | rahsputin | i can reconize my cellphone |
| 23:54.23 | rahsputin | hcitool scan |
| 23:54.29 | newsense | gonna install debian on an old 486 for my brother he wants xwindows, xfce a good wm choice ? |
| 23:54.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | ok |
| 23:55.13 | rahsputin | newsense icewm or fluxbox will also do |
| 23:55.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | !bluetooth |
| 23:55.25 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, bluetooth is a wireless communications protocol, or http://bluetooth.com/ or about as secure as shouting, or apt-get install bluez-utils; then run hidd --search as root. http://wiki.debian.org/BluetoothUser |
| 23:55.34 | newsense | any of them have a "taskbar" ? |
| 23:55.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | if you look at the wiki, it sais Now you can send files to your PC (KDE should bring up a program to handle this). |
| 23:55.43 | newsense | hes coming from windows |
| 23:56.08 | rahsputin | newsense yes |
| 23:56.22 | rahsputin | i believe also icewm |
| 23:56.23 | newsense | all of em ? |
| 23:56.28 | rahsputin | ?? |
| 23:56.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | newsense, you can have an wm-independent taskbar also, like perlpanel or fbpanel |
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| 23:56.52 | rahsputin | CutMeOwnThroat i use fluxbox without Gnome and KDE |
| 23:56.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | "apt-cache search taskbar" |
| 23:56.53 | newsense | oh ok cool |
| 23:57.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | hehe |
| 23:57.13 | newsense | me personally coulld care less and have no knowledge of this taskbar business |
| 23:57.15 | newsense | thanks all |
| 23:57.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | how about that |
| 23:57.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | windowlab - Small and simple Amiga-like window manager |
| 23:57.23 | newsense | be back once its booted i hope |
| 23:57.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | rahsputin, yes, I was going to comment it would be useful if they said *what* program KDE starts |
| 23:58.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | rahsputin, but kbluetoothd is useful without kde also... (it's the only way I was able to enter a pin for my device) |
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| 23:58.52 | zamba | CutMeOwnThroat: how do i simply switch to grub? |
| 23:59.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | zamba, install it |