| 00:00.01 | jbinder | The PM? |
| 00:00.07 | Nyle | yes |
| 00:00.08 | Nyle | !kp |
| 00:00.08 | dpkg | To compile a kernel The Debian Way(tm) "apt-get install kernel-package build-essential libncurses5-dev" and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz; You should also ask me about <make-kpkg> and <kp mantra>, or just http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html.en |
| 00:00.21 | jbinder | Yeah but I don't trust apt. It won't mess up? |
| 00:00.21 | Nyle | you'll be alright. |
| 00:00.30 | Nyle | what do you not trust? |
| 00:00.36 | avu | puff, you don't have to hack apt to do so |
| 00:00.47 | puff | avu: So, I've been messing with this for sevearl hours now, before you started helping me. Does this seem to indicate imminent doom, or can I take a dinner break? |
| 00:00.48 | avu | puff, you can hook into apt the exact way apt-listchanges does |
| 00:00.48 | jbinder | Nyle: That when an upgrade comes out for lenny it will go to .26 (the upgrade) |
| 00:00.54 | dmoerner | jbinder, if you don't trust apt you are in trouble... |
| 00:00.57 | jbinder | lol |
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| 00:00.59 | puff | avu: Ah, cool. I've been brushing up on python lately anyway. |
| 00:01.02 | Nyle | jbinder, you can hold your kernel package |
| 00:01.03 | dmoerner | !tell jbinder -about hold |
| 00:01.06 | puff | avu: So this would be a good exercise. |
| 00:01.14 | avu | puff, you of course do not have to write those hooks in python |
| 00:01.20 | abrotman | jbinder: do you want it to upgrade you or not ? |
| 00:01.22 | avu | puff, allthough that's what I would do, too :) |
| 00:01.50 | avu | puff, about the dinner break: that's up to you? I just won't be here when you come back I guess. 2am here. |
| 00:01.54 | puff | avu: My C is rusty, java is strongest, then perl, starting to try to make myself learn python lately. |
| 00:01.55 | jbinder | abrotman: I guess not because then it will be downgrading for .27rc3 to .26 |
| 00:01.59 | jbinder | from* |
| 00:02.06 | jbinder | dmoerner: How do I unhold for later? |
| 00:02.08 | puff | avu: Much appreciate the help. |
| 00:02.12 | abrotman | jbinder: you can use kp .. make your own |
| 00:02.16 | dmoerner | jbinder, echo package install | dpkg --set-selections |
| 00:02.29 | abrotman | jbinder: don't install the meta package .. you should be fine |
| 00:02.48 | jbinder | ... |
| 00:02.50 | dmoerner | jbinder, abrotman is right, just don't install the meta package and you don't have to worry about holds |
| 00:02.52 | jbinder | mmk |
| 00:02.52 | puff | avu: I'm going to write this up and post it to my site; may I credit you? |
| 00:02.58 | puff | abrotman: Same question to you. |
| 00:03.01 | jbinder | And what is the meta package? |
| 00:03.09 | abrotman | puff: credit me? can't i just get a freaking beer?! |
| 00:03.15 | abrotman | puff: yes .. that's fine |
| 00:03.15 | dmoerner | lol |
| 00:03.19 | puff | abrotman: Where are you,again? |
| 00:03.24 | avu | puff, I'd prefer the beer too :-) |
| 00:03.29 | abrotman | puff: mid-atlantic |
| 00:03.33 | puff | avu: Given that it's 2am where you are.... |
| 00:03.36 | avu | puff, but do what you like |
| 00:03.39 | avu | puff, germany |
| 00:03.49 | abrotman | avu: if you get a beer .. and i don't .. i'm coming to drink half! |
| 00:03.54 | puff | avu: Ah, makes sense. Maybe if I ever visit my cousin in luxembourg. |
| 00:04.01 | abrotman | jbinder: dpkg -l linux-image* .. put it in a pasetbin |
| 00:04.03 | puff | abrotman: what, hawaii or something? |
| 00:04.07 | avu | abrotman, deal! |
| 00:04.12 | abrotman | puff: *atlantic* |
| 00:04.18 | puff | abrotman: Doh. |
| 00:04.20 | abrotman | indeed |
| 00:04.21 | puff | abrotman: Mid? |
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| 00:04.35 | abrotman | puff: you know .. like NY/PA/MD/VA/DE/NJ ? |
| 00:04.35 | puff | abrotman: What's out there? |
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| 00:04.56 | puff | abrotman: like "east coast"? |
| 00:05.02 | abrotman | yes |
| 00:05.05 | puff | abrotman: I thought you meant you were on an island somewehre. |
| 00:05.17 | puff | abrotman: east coast is far more doable. |
| 00:05.20 | jbinder | is kind of too lazy since he has OS X as an alternative. |
| 00:05.23 | puff | I'm in pittsburgh, myself. |
| 00:05.30 | abrotman | that's right .. i'm thet only person in bermuda with internet :) |
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| 00:05.37 | jbinder | puff: Carnegie Mellon! |
| 00:05.41 | abrotman | puff: i think we've been over this .. tunnel monster sucks! |
| 00:05.43 | puff | jbinder: yup. |
| 00:05.48 | jbinder | puff: Do you go there? |
| 00:05.49 | puff | Heh. |
| 00:06.11 | abrotman | puff: and i've eaten at Pamela's (among other places out there) |
| 00:06.42 | puff | jbinder: "go" there, yes, quite frequently. I don't study or work there, though, just have friends & etc who do. |
| 00:07.09 | puff | I used to live 5 blocks away, next do the closest strip club :-). |
| 00:07.13 | puff | next to. |
| 00:07.17 | jbinder | :o |
| 00:07.28 | jbinder | puff: Are you in college yet? Or younger/older? |
| 00:07.30 | abrotman | hrm .. maybe he doesn't know that place |
| 00:07.35 | puff | jbinder: older. |
| 00:07.41 | puff | abrotman: Pamela's, good pancakes. |
| 00:07.47 | abrotman | good everything :) |
| 00:08.04 | puff | abrotman: Though I like the one in oakland best. Actually, I'm not much of a pancake guy, but I love their potatoes. |
| 00:08.07 | jbinder | wants to go to CMU but it's too far away probably. :| |
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| 00:08.24 | abrotman | i've only been to the one in oakland .. my brothers used to live on swinburne |
| 00:08.25 | puff | jbinder: No such thing as too far away. |
| 00:08.33 | jbinder | Lies |
| 00:08.37 | puff | abrotman: I used to take swinburne bridge all the time as a shortcut. |
| 00:08.42 | abrotman | yep |
| 00:08.43 | jbinder | It would cost at least $100 to get there by car (gas) |
| 00:08.46 | abrotman | anyways ... |
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| 00:08.59 | jbinder | And like $600 by plane with my family |
| 00:08.59 | puff | jbinder: If you're considering CMU as college, then if oyu can get there at all, go there. |
| 00:09.17 | puff | jbinder: But this isn't really a #debian discussion. |
| 00:09.25 | jbinder | lol |
| 00:09.48 | jbinder | might not be able to get in since I've gotten 2 Bs and like 7 B+s |
| 00:09.51 | puff | jbinder: This is *college*, man, it's one of the most important choices you've made in your life, so far. |
| 00:10.21 | abrotman | !ot |
| 00:10.21 | dpkg | Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic (i.e., Debian support), or return to the topic after a short while. #debian-offtopic is the place for longer off-topic discussions. |
| 00:10.24 | abrotman | use it! |
| 00:10.43 | puff | jbinder: If you care to hear more, I'll be happy to berate you on #debian-offtopic. |
| 00:10.53 | puff | abrotman: Thanks. |
| 00:10.59 | jbinder | is there. |
| 00:14.08 | PiousMinion | Hi, I'm having an issue where a hard drive of mine simply disappears from the OS. "hdparm -w /dev/sda" results in " HDIO_DRIVE_RESET failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device". Here's some out put that may help. --> http://www.pastebin.ca/1169499 |
| 00:14.32 | PiousMinion | ANY help would be greatly appreciated as this drive need to be active 24/7. |
| 00:15.51 | PiousMinion | also, "hdparm -S 0 /dev/sda" returns with no errors, but I get the same result. |
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| 00:20.13 | htmlol | I love the command hdparm. |
| 00:20.22 | htmlol | it's like chicken parm. but with an hd. |
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| 00:22.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | PiousMinion, the drive broke? Not completely yet, but enough to give you all types of timeouts? |
| 00:23.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | looks to me like "buy a new harddisk" |
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| 00:24.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | or perhaps the (sata?) interface? |
| 00:24.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | Did you try to plug it out and back in yet? |
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| 00:25.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | looks a bit different than what I've seen - but generally I'd say all these types of errors can be cured by exchanging hardware |
| 00:26.01 | lynucs_ | err.. is it normal that i can't install pidgin on lenny? |
| 00:26.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | of course |
| 00:26.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | it's unnatural to be able to install packets |
| 00:27.21 | lynucs_ | CutMeOwnThroat: ok.. just curious. i get "Package pidgin has no installation candidate" |
| 00:27.51 | PiousMinion | CutMeOwnThroat: This is a brand new drive, yes I've swapped cables around. Controller is onboard. |
| 00:27.56 | lynucs_ | i wonder wether it's my sources.list |
| 00:28.11 | lynucs_ | or the package is really not available atm |
| 00:28.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm |
| 00:28.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | !pidgin |
| 00:28.29 | dpkg | rumour has it, pidgin is formerly <gaim>, but due to trademark issues with AOL over the acronym AIM, had its name changed to Pidgin. libgaim is now libpurple and gaim-text is now Finch. Backported packages are available for Etch from backports.org, ask me about <backports.org> |
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| 00:29.15 | lynucs_ | okay, finch is an ugly alternative.. but i want my gui-aided finch |
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| 00:29.53 | abrotman | pidgin ? |
| 00:30.02 | lynucs_ | abrotman: yes |
| 00:30.07 | Lethargik | anyone know of an easy to configure smtp server that i can have users authenticate to send mail |
| 00:30.19 | abrotman | uhm .. many can |
| 00:30.22 | Lethargik | i am having a huge problem with someone spamming through my server |
| 00:30.23 | abrotman | i know postfix can |
| 00:30.40 | lynucs_ | abrotman: seems not to be in lenny's repo? or my sources.list misses a line |
| 00:30.50 | abrotman | Lethargik: they shouldn't be spamming *through* your server |
| 00:31.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | lynucs_, 2.4.3-1 should be in lenny according to http://packages.debian.org/testing/allpackages?format=txt.gz |
| 00:31.20 | PiousMinion | CutMeOwnThroat: no more ideas or do you think I got a bad brand new drive? |
| 00:31.21 | Lethargik | well, they are sending mail through it. to like 1000 yahoo accts |
| 00:31.26 | abrotman | !info pidgin lenny |
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| 00:31.41 | abrotman | as an open relay ? |
| 00:31.50 | dpkg | pidgin: (graphical multi-protocol instant messaging client for X), section net, is optional. Version: 2.4.3-1 (lenny), Packaged size: 663 kB, Installed size: 1848 kB |
| 00:31.54 | abrotman | lynucs_: ^^ |
| 00:32.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | PiousMinion, I've never seen such errors/timeouts to be a software issue yet - you could try a newer/older kernel, if in doubt |
| 00:32.32 | lynucs_ | abrotman: but apt-get tells me "pacakge pidgin is not availbale" |
| 00:32.40 | abrotman | lynucs_: paste your sources somewhere |
| 00:32.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | Lethargik, so stop that? |
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| 00:33.53 | lynucs_ | abrotman: http://phpfi.com/343246 |
| 00:34.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | Lethargik, the default configuration of Debian MTA packages doesn't allow that - so it's something you have configured |
| 00:35.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | sausage inna bun, anyone? |
| 00:35.56 | abrotman | lynucs_: aptitude install pidgin ? fails? |
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| 00:37.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | PiousMinion, admittedly it sounds strange if it's a new drive... |
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| 00:37.50 | lynucs_ | abrotman: yes. fails |
| 00:37.57 | lynucs_ | abrotman: no candidate |
| 00:38.03 | mohadib_ | is ext3 no good for volumes over 1TB? |
| 00:38.04 | lynucs_ | apt-get update is done |
| 00:38.16 | mohadib_ | it seems im always at 10% wait state in top |
| 00:38.30 | abrotman | lynucs_: apt-cache policy pidgin |
| 00:38.32 | PiousMinion | CutMeOwnThroat: thanks. I think you're right as I see now the drive doesn't come right back after reboot. I have to leave machine off for a few seconds. |
| 00:39.02 | lynucs_ | abrotman: ah.. "oops!" i call it |
| 00:39.44 | abrotman | ? |
| 00:39.45 | abrotman | ok |
| 00:40.01 | lynucs_ | abrotman: policy.. yes :) |
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| 00:40.08 | abrotman | uh ok |
| 00:40.29 | mdg | anyone here use a PPC with Debian? |
| 00:40.35 | abrotman | i do |
| 00:40.57 | mdg | I seem to be having a hard drive issue - it clicks intermittently |
| 00:41.14 | mohadib_ | mdg: does dmsg show a bunch of driver errors? |
| 00:41.38 | mdg | let me run it - should I be looking for ide errors? |
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| 00:41.50 | mohadib_ | will say something like "seek error" |
| 00:42.08 | mdg | op code unknown erros, ide errors |
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| 00:42.19 | mohadib_ | time for a new disk :p |
| 00:42.40 | mdg | that's what i was afraid of - this is a G4 - "lamp" type computer |
| 00:43.20 | mohadib_ | i have use tar to create an exact image of a server |
| 00:43.31 | mohadib_ | then just blow out the tar file on a new disk |
| 00:43.36 | mohadib_ | set it to bootable and go |
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| 00:43.45 | mdg | This |
| 00:44.05 | mdg | this Debian install has other problems too - I would probably start fresh |
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| 00:44.28 | mdg | what's a reasonable amount to expect to pay to have a hard drive replaced (labor) |
| 00:44.32 | dbmoodb | mdg: nothing wrong with tar |
| 00:44.57 | abrotman | mdg: that doesn't sound like a linux issue |
| 00:45.05 | mdg | I agree dbmoodb, nothing wrong with tar |
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| 00:46.20 | mdg | I have issues with X server and sound - can't start x and keep losing sound |
| 00:47.14 | mdg | I think its a bad install because of failing hardddrive |
| 00:47.35 | dbmoodb | mdg: $50 ? |
| 00:47.46 | dbmoodb | mdg: .... ? just do it your self ? |
| 00:47.53 | mdg | dbmoodb - an hour or total? |
| 00:48.51 | mdg | I would do it myself if it were a normal case, this G4 has a round base and the monitor is on an arm coming out of the base - very tight and complicated for a newb like me |
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| 00:49.21 | dbmoodb | ah...then i have no idea... try finding some one at your lug who does ? |
| 00:50.05 | mdg | that's a good idea! I have no idea how many people are using macs with linux here in the midwest |
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| 00:51.00 | mdg | thanks for the advice! :) |
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| 00:52.06 | lynucs_ | what might be the reason for Option "XkbOptions" "grp:ctrls_toggle,grp_led:scroll" not switching to another xkblayout? |
| 00:52.32 | lynucs_ | even no scroll-led is active |
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| 00:56.49 | abrotman | !ppc |
| 00:56.49 | dpkg | well, ppc is is short for <powerpc>, and powerpc is the superior architecture. You worship it, and wish you were running on it. Check out http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/ or visit #debianppc |
| 00:56.52 | abrotman | oh .. he left |
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| 00:58.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | I don't worship ppc |
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| 00:58.48 | Cholito | is the linux-image-2.6.25-2-amd64 a 64 bit kernel? or a 32 bit kernel for pc's with a amd64 processor? |
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| 00:59.13 | abrotman | yes .. 64bit |
| 00:59.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | though the idea of owning some type of mac got more attractive since they use some unix-like thing natively ... or one could run linux, sure |
| 00:59.35 | Cholito | although I installed a 32 bit system? |
| 00:59.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | Cholito, it's a 64-bit kernel to be run in a 32bit system |
| 00:59.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | kernel =64 bit, userland=32bit |
| 01:00.24 | Cholito | so, that's why the nvidia installer told me I couldn't install the 32 bit driver... |
| 01:00.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | yes |
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| 01:00.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | and you can't use the 64-bit kernelmodule from nvidia either |
| 01:00.57 | rhineheart_m | hello. Is it possible to install dansguardian in debian? |
| 01:01.00 | Cholito | and that is why my wifi didn't work until I compiled another kernel :) |
| 01:01.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | Cholito, it suddenly all makes sense now, eh? |
| 01:01.28 | Cholito | lol yeah! |
| 01:01.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | !dansguardian |
| 01:01.45 | dpkg | somebody said dansguardian was a web filtering (content-based) tool. Available as a Debian package. |
| 01:02.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | Cholito, with an nvidia card you probably want to use the 32bit kernel |
| 01:02.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | I know I do :) |
| 01:02.46 | Cholito | lol |
| 01:03.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | last I tried, it was not possible to compile the nvidia kernel module with it |
| 01:03.29 | Cholito | well i compiled the .26 kernel so I could setup the wifi (althou it doesn't work) but things are kind of slow lately |
| 01:03.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | because it's the 64bit kernel compiled with 32bit compilers... |
| 01:03.48 | Cholito | really slow... |
| 01:04.02 | Cholito | kind of weird isn't it? |
| 01:04.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, no? |
| 01:04.53 | Cholito | why not using a 64b compilers then? |
| 01:04.55 | Cholito | =/ |
| 01:05.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | because you don't have them in a 32bit system? |
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| 01:06.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | Cholito, it's just an additional curtesy - you can use a 64-bit kernel and have all the advantages of having a 32bit userland |
| 01:06.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | which is nice - except if you have an nvidia graphics card... or perhaps some weird wifi-drivers :) |
| 01:07.28 | ix | CutMeOwnThroat: What are you saying - That you can't compile the NVIDIA Grapics kernel driver in a 64-bit-system? |
| 01:07.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | no |
| 01:07.45 | rhineheart_m | can you point a how to of dansguardian in debian please? |
| 01:07.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | I'm saying you cannot compile it for a 64 bit kernel on a 32 bit system |
| 01:07.59 | ix | Oh. |
| 01:08.03 | ix | Well, of course. |
| 01:08.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | at least I couldnt ca 1.5 years ago and be sure I tried |
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| 01:09.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | don't remember what exactly the problem was, though |
| 01:09.17 | Akuw | Starting MySQL database server: mysqld . . . . . . . . . . . . . . failed! |
| 01:09.23 | Akuw | i can run mysql |
| 01:09.27 | Cholito | the so using the k7 kernel would be better? =/ |
| 01:10.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | Cholito, yes, but this is probably the momemnt where I tell you that the -k7 line of Debian kernels has been discontinued :) |
| 01:10.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | Cholito, so I think there aren't any k7's anymore in lenny (use the normal 686 instead whenever you happen to get there) |
| 01:11.29 | Cholito | so thhe last one is the 2.6.22? |
| 01:11.45 | Cholito | I answer myself: yes |
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| 01:12.00 | Cholito | !xen |
| 01:12.00 | dpkg | methinks xen is an open source virtual machine monitor, intended to run up to 100 full featured OSs on a single computer. OSs must be explicitly modified ("ported") to run on Xen (although compatibility is maintained for user applications). Xen achieves high performance virtualisation without special hardware support. For detailed help, ask in #debian-xen on irc.oftc.net or see http://wiki.debian.org/Xen |
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| 01:12.06 | Locke1689 | hey guys, I have an iptables/ipfilter/shorewal issue |
| 01:12.20 | Locke1689 | is there a way to make routing keep the same port (ie "static port") |
| 01:12.29 | Locke1689 | through nat |
| 01:12.38 | Cholito | uhmmm so the 686-xen kernel is beter for virtualization? |
| 01:13.36 | Cholito | s/beter/better |
| 01:13.39 | blameless | are you using xen? |
| 01:13.55 | Cholito | googling about the meaning of xen ;) |
| 01:14.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | Akuw, mysqld_multi report perhaps? |
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| 01:14.44 | blameless | Cholito: then the answer is probably no. pick the 686 kernel or the 686-bigmem kernel i'd guess |
| 01:15.01 | Akuw | ?? |
| 01:15.19 | Cholito | blameless: bigmen? |
| 01:15.34 | simonrvn | big memory ... |
| 01:15.34 | Tramp | Locke1689: NAT tries to preserver ports. However, it cannot be guaranteed (since the port may be already taken) and there is (afaik) no way to "force" it (what should it do? Drop if port is not available?) |
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| 01:16.07 | Locke1689 | Tramp: maybe its not what i mean... i used to use a freebsd box with pf |
| 01:16.22 | Locke1689 | and one of the options is to use nat with "static-port" |
| 01:16.39 | Cholito | lol |
| 01:16.52 | Cholito | I hought it was big MEN |
| 01:16.55 | simonrvn | it's a Tramp! |
| 01:17.15 | peppe | Locke1689: what do you mean? what does that "static-port" do? |
| 01:17.15 | Locke1689 | that seemed to clear up my issues (port forwarding alone/ DNAT doesnt seem to be working), so i thought i might try something similar on iptables |
| 01:17.46 | Locke1689 | doc says "Tells PF not to translate the source port in TCP and UDP packets." |
| 01:18.06 | Cholito | oh, BTW, the big-mem will recognize my 4gigs of ram? |
| 01:18.15 | Locke1689 | hmm maybe that would be the equivalent of iptables "masquerading"? |
| 01:18.34 | simonrvn | no |
| 01:18.52 | peppe | Locke1689: that's fine, netfilter does that too, if the port is not already taken |
| 01:19.06 | Tramp | Locke1689: no. Masquerading is SNAT. You talk about DNAT, right? |
| 01:19.08 | Cholito | simonrvn: was that "no" for me? |
| 01:19.11 | blameless | Cholito: yes, as well the non-big mem i believe. big-mem will enable pae however |
| 01:19.24 | blameless | pae being needed for the nx bit |
| 01:19.28 | simonrvn | Cholito: no |
| 01:19.33 | Cholito | blameless: right now it sees only 3,2 gigs |
| 01:19.39 | Locke1689 | ive already done all the DNATing |
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| 01:19.55 | Locke1689 | every possible proto and port it could run on |
| 01:20.07 | blameless | Cholito: what processor? |
| 01:20.14 | peppe | Tramp: as I understood he's talking about snat AND making some connections always use a certain port when routed out of the natting router |
| 01:20.16 | Locke1689 | but that still seems to only get me something called "Moderate NAT" |
| 01:20.27 | Cholito | blameless: amd x2 |
| 01:20.35 | peppe | Locke1689: what is "moderate nat"? |
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| 01:20.52 | Locke1689 | peppe: idk, Microsoft doesn't like to define their arbitrary descriptions |
| 01:21.05 | blameless | Cholito: yeah, that has pae support so you could use bigmem or the amd64 kernel |
| 01:21.12 | Locke1689 | peppe: http://www.xbox.com/en-US/support/connecttolive/xbox360/connectionmethods/troubleshootliveconnection-testnat.htm |
| 01:21.17 | Locke1689 | ie |
| 01:21.19 | Locke1689 | "Moderate NAT means that the port-assignment policy is minimal, but the device is filtering addresses or ports." |
| 01:21.24 | Locke1689 | im not sure what that means |
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| 01:22.19 | peppe | Locke1689: are you sure you can use just a DNAT? it is a ms device, it would expect a MS UPnP Internet Gateway Device enabled for Windows VIsta⢠|
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| 01:22.34 | Locke1689 | well, i had it working using PF |
| 01:22.47 | Locke1689 | so that shouldnt be an issue |
| 01:23.12 | Locke1689 | im not sure i just do it with DNAT though |
| 01:23.13 | peppe | Locke1689: well, paste your iptables -nL -v for each table |
| 01:23.20 | Locke1689 | will do |
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| 01:24.16 | Locke1689 | http://pastebin.com/m213b382e |
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| 01:26.00 | peppe | locke1689: eeek! quite huge. but that is the filter table, paste the nat table too |
| 01:26.11 | Cholito | blameless: yeah, I want to use the bigmen kernel, as the amd64 won't let me use the wifi usb card and the nvidia drivers :) |
| 01:26.31 | Locke1689_ | peppe: sorry, i have a lot of rules |
| 01:26.53 | blameless | Cholito: yeah, i use bigmem on all of my 32-bit machines, and my 64-bit machine |
| 01:27.23 | Akuw | mysql is working now |
| 01:27.27 | Akuw | problem solved |
| 01:27.29 | Cholito | blameless: CutMeOwnThroat: thank you both for the help =))) |
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| 01:28.19 | Locke1689_ | http://pastebin.com/m7ce1b9f1 |
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| 01:28.47 | newsense | dns lookups taking long time any ideas, already blacklisted ipv6 module and it worked fine for a few days now its slow again ? |
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| 01:29.17 | stevedondley | ping dondelelcaro |
| 01:29.17 | Locke1689_ | newsense: your isp dns sucks? |
| 01:29.25 | newsense | possibly |
| 01:29.32 | newsense | can i use yours hahaa |
| 01:29.41 | Locke1689_ | sure |
| 01:29.46 | newsense | cool |
| 01:29.52 | Locke1689_ | lol one sec ill get the ip |
| 01:29.56 | newsense | im back to like aol days |
| 01:30.20 | newsense | and i know only googles ip by heart |
| 01:30.21 | Locke1689_ | haha ooh i forgot i was running my own caching |
| 01:30.22 | peppe | newsense: use opendns |
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| 01:30.40 | Locke1689_ | dnsmasq if you want something really fast |
| 01:30.42 | newsense | peppe cool |
| 01:30.45 | newsense | fast ? |
| 01:31.02 | Locke1689_ | newsense: good enough |
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| 01:31.23 | Locke1689_ | its usually pretty location aware |
| 01:31.35 | mogra | dns is always fast if you cache locally too :3 |
| 01:31.36 | Samonoske | How can I add an ssh user and restrict them to a specific folder? |
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| 01:33.19 | pirunga | hi, I was thinking why when I try to purge libswfdec-0.6-90 aptitude try to remove all gnome, I dont believe that gnome really need swf decoders to work, I was used to archlinux, this package systems is weird, I need help please... |
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| 01:34.08 | Locke1689_ | Samonoske: http://www.oreillynet.com/cs/user/view/cs_msg/23694 |
| 01:34.16 | tecky | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:34.19 | Samonoske | Locke0 thanks |
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| 01:34.42 | faileas | anyone know where i can find a checkinstall package for etch? |
| 01:34.47 | stevedondley | ping dondelelcaro |
| 01:34.50 | Locke1689_ | little outdated but still probably ok |
| 01:36.29 | Locke1689_ | hmm ok really outdated |
| 01:36.41 | Locke1689_ | Samonoske: google chroot jail |
| 01:36.46 | newsense | peppe Locke1689: thanks guys opendns worked was my shitty isp dns servers |
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| 01:36.59 | newsense | another site bookmarked |
| 01:37.13 | Locke1689_ | newsense: suspected ;) |
| 01:37.20 | faileas | newsense: not much point bookmarking a site if your DNS servers go down XD |
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| 01:37.34 | faileas | has a backup local DNS server now ;p |
| 01:37.37 | newsense | for others |
| 01:37.41 | newsense | i like to pass it on |
| 01:37.54 | newsense | like seeding the knowledge |
| 01:38.01 | mogra | and a list of DNS servers helps too |
| 01:38.12 | Locke1689_ | if you want to run a dns cache, dnsmasq is really easy |
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| 01:38.38 | Locke1689_ | also does dhcp |
| 01:38.41 | mogra | for instance, anything 4.2.2.1 - .5 is a Verizon server |
| 01:39.43 | newsense | they say on opendns they provide filtering for free |
| 01:39.52 | newsense | sounds good |
| 01:39.56 | Locke1689_ | mogra: huh, i use verizon and my dns is 71.242.0.12 |
| 01:40.28 | lem0n | doesnt mean they dont have 'more than one', Locke0 |
| 01:40.30 | mogra | Yea, those are more local |
| 01:40.34 | lem0n | Locke1689* |
| 01:40.37 | Locke1689_ | lem0n: shut up :-p |
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| 01:40.49 | se7en_ | anyone know how to fix that problem SSH-2.0-OpenSSH Protocol mismatch local box has 1:5.1p1-2 remote box 1:4.7p1-12 |
| 01:40.56 | lem0n | 4.2.2.1, and 4.2.2.2 are the nameservers that like, half the inet uses ;p |
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| 01:41.00 | pirunga | anyone have troubles with flash in lenny? |
| 01:41.02 | Locke1689_ | i realized how stupid that was after i said it |
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| 01:41.25 | lem0n | i thought they were run by level3 myself |
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| 01:41.46 | mogra | they are owned by Verizon, lem0n |
| 01:41.51 | lem0n | i see |
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| 01:42.33 | mogra | and those 5 are rather trustworthy for uptime. |
| 01:42.34 | nse | I know that find / -name x seaches for every file on the system with x in the name. how to search for files in the system which have x in their content?/ |
| 01:42.49 | lem0n | yep, mogra |
| 01:42.58 | lem0n | i use .1 and .2 myself |
| 01:42.59 | lem0n | heh |
| 01:43.05 | mogra | :3 |
| 01:43.09 | Cholito | uhmm, the nvidia installer tells me I have a xen kernel (I'm using 686-bigmem) so I cannot install the nvidia driver :S |
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| 01:43.34 | faileas | newsense: i installed unbound.. there's a good howto somewhere, if you're interested |
| 01:43.36 | blameless | Cholito: did you reboot after installing the bigmem? |
| 01:43.43 | Cholito | AND I still see only 3,2 gigs instead the 4gigs I have =/ |
| 01:43.51 | Cholito | blameless: of course :) |
| 01:43.56 | faileas | newsense: needs to be compiled but its more secure than bind |
| 01:44.09 | mogra | Cholito: I had the same after recent kernel update on lenny, I just built a vanilla using Debian's config. |
| 01:44.20 | se7en_ | anyone know how to fix that problem SSH-2.0-OpenSSH Protocol mismatch local box has 1:5.1p1-2 remote box 1:4.7p1-12 |
| 01:44.37 | blameless | Cholito: and head /var/log/dmesg says its the 686-bigmem kernel? |
| 01:45.30 | Cholito | blameless: not really |
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| 01:45.47 | Cholito | it says nothing about the kernel actually |
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| 01:45.56 | blameless | Cholito: how about a uname -a |
| 01:46.25 | Tramp | se7en_: grep Protocol <file>, where file is /etc/ssh/ssh_config on the client and /etc/ssh/sshd_config on the server. What does it say? |
| 01:46.38 | mogra | I know the Debian build for 2.6.25-2-686 had Xen enabled in it's CONFIG file |
| 01:46.41 | Cholito | 2.6.25-2-686-bigmem #1 SMP Fri Jul 18 18:30:55 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 01:46.57 | blameless | yeah, that's bigmem |
| 01:47.07 | mogra | s/had/has |
| 01:47.08 | blameless | Cholito: did you install the linux-headers which go with it? |
| 01:47.27 | Cholito | yeap |
| 01:47.44 | blameless | well, i have the nvidia driver installed on a lenny system running bigmem so i know it works |
| 01:47.58 | nhuisman_work | is there a way to see what packages depend on a given package with dpkg? |
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| 01:48.38 | Cholito | dpkg -l | grep bigmem ==> ii linux-headers-2.6.25-2-686-bigmem |
| 01:48.38 | dpkg | No packages found matching | grep bigmem ==> ii linux-headers-2.6.25-2-686-bigmem |
| 01:48.45 | Cholito | lol |
| 01:48.46 | ccr | 'lo. is there some sensible way of fetching (not installing) binary packages even if they are already installed, similar to 'apt-get source ..'? |
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| 01:49.16 | nhuisman_work | anyone ? |
| 01:49.23 | blameless | Cholito: are you using m-a to build the nvidia module? |
| 01:49.35 | nhuisman_work | or can you think of another way to see |
| 01:49.36 | mogra | Cholito: grep XEN /boot/config-$(uname -r) |
| 01:49.38 | Cholito | blameless: no, just using the *.run file |
| 01:50.01 | mogra | the line CONFIG_XEN, y/n? |
| 01:50.02 | blameless | Cholito: yeah, i installed it the debian way. the instructions are in the wiki |
| 01:50.10 | blameless | mogra: yeah, xen is enabled |
| 01:50.13 | Cholito | mogra: either Y or M...so it's enabled... |
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| 01:51.38 | Cholito | mogra: it's Y |
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| 01:53.09 | Cholito | blameless: PLEASE, give me the url, I can't find it even inside wiki.debian.org |
| 01:53.44 | nhuisman_work | i'm trying to find out what packages depend on a given deb |
| 01:54.04 | nhuisman_work | pruning packages but don't want to remove essential stuff |
| 01:54.10 | blameless | Cholito: http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers |
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| 01:54.25 | blameless | Cholito: read all of it as you have to do some special stuff for lenny (basically manually downloading some packages |
| 01:54.56 | Cholito | nhuisman_work: apt-cache depends package |
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| 01:55.26 | Cholito | blameless: thanks! |
| 01:56.38 | nhuisman_work | ah thx |
| 01:56.46 | nhuisman_work | i was trying to do it with aptitude |
| 01:58.05 | se7en_ | Tramp: local: cat /etc/ssh/ssh_config | grep -i protocol = #2.1 and remote cat /etc/ssh/sshd_config | grep -i protocol = protocol 2 |
| 01:58.12 | Cholito | I didn't know it, just googled for it |
| 01:58.52 | nhuisman_work | yeah I tried, just had the wrong search string I guess |
| 01:58.58 | Cholito | :) |
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| 01:59.25 | Cholito | BTW: dhouldn't the bimem kernel recognize my 4gigs of ram? |
| 01:59.34 | nhuisman_work | mine does |
| 01:59.46 | nhuisman_work | Mem: 8314024k total, 932712k used, 7381312k free, 5076k buffers |
| 01:59.47 | Cholito | uhmmm, then there is something wrong here... |
| 01:59.52 | abrotman | 3.3GB ? |
| 01:59.53 | nhuisman_work | Linux hilonas01 2.6.18-6-686-bigmem #1 SMP Fri Jun 6 23:31:15 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 01:59.58 | Cholito | 3,2 |
| 02:00.04 | abrotman | i'd guess PAE |
| 02:00.05 | abrotman | !pae |
| 02:00.05 | dpkg | Physical Address Extension (PAE) refers to a feature of x86 and x86-64 processors that allows more than 4 gibibytes (GiB) of physical memory to be used in 32-bit systems, given appropriate operating system support. The Linux kernel supports PAE starting from 2.6.x It has full PAE support, enabling access of up to 64 GiB of memory on 32-bit machines. |
| 02:00.09 | nhuisman_work | Cholito, is it loaded? |
| 02:00.16 | nhuisman_work | Cholito, confirm with a uname -a |
| 02:00.20 | Cholito | Linux matos 2.6.25-2-686-bigmem #1 SMP Fri Jul 18 18:30:55 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 02:00.53 | blameless | perhaps the motherboard doesn't support 4gig? |
| 02:01.05 | Cholito | lets search for it... |
| 02:01.28 | Tramp | se7en_: hmm. This is strange. The server only allows v2 (which is ok) and the client (by default) prefers v2 as well. Try to run ssh -vv ...... and check the output for hints what the problem is |
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| 02:04.12 | Cholito | what gigabyte says about this motherboard: 4 DDR2 DIMM memory slots (supports up to 16GB memory) |
| 02:04.36 | Ducky | how do I remove something from boot |
| 02:04.39 | Ducky | I know how to add |
| 02:04.56 | Ducky | update-rc.d initfile defaults |
| 02:05.01 | Ducky | just not how to remove it |
| 02:05.16 | abrotman | man update-rc.d |
| 02:06.10 | nhuisman_work | Cholito, when you boot up do you see 4gb in the check mem screen? |
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| 02:06.25 | Ducky | abrotman that it anything else after? |
| 02:06.41 | abrotman | you'd have to read it |
| 02:06.46 | nhuisman_work | what are the penalties for using more then 4gb of ram in a 32bit system? |
| 02:07.13 | faileas | nhuisman_work: you might not be able to use all of it, thats all |
| 02:07.24 | nhuisman_work | I can with a bigmem kernel |
| 02:07.33 | nhuisman_work | i'm wondering if there is a performance hit for using 32bit |
| 02:07.35 | nhuisman_work | vs 64bit |
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| 02:07.55 | Cholito | nhuisman_work: uhmmm very interesting question |
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| 02:08.04 | Cholito | I'm going to check that out |
| 02:08.13 | Palapa | cheers... |
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| 02:10.16 | nhuisman_work | hey, whats the new debian release estimate ? |
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| 02:14.05 | grzegorz129 | hi all |
| 02:14.24 | grzegorz129 | how to remove this information from http response: X-Powered-By: PHP/5.2.0-8+etch11 |
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| 02:15.39 | Wyzard | grzegorz129: As a guess, probably a php.ini setting |
| 02:15.48 | grzegorz129 | heh, where ? :) |
| 02:16.07 | grzegorz129 | i read php.ini 5x and cant find it |
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| 02:16.28 | Wyzard | then maybe I'm wrong |
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| 02:18.42 | taime1 | how do you install a patch for a gtk theme? |
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| 02:19.46 | Cholito | so...the MB only sees 3,2 gigs... (!!!!) |
| 02:20.09 | nhuisman_work | Cholito, in the bios it does? |
| 02:20.17 | nhuisman_work | Cholito, you may want to patch your bios |
| 02:20.32 | Laeborg | hmm i working on some dual boot thing with windows xp and debian etch |
| 02:20.49 | nhuisman_work | What is the preferred way to do only security updates ? |
| 02:20.52 | Cholito | I know =( hard to do I think |
| 02:21.00 | nhuisman_work | Cholito, not really |
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| 02:21.10 | Laeborg | if i make a jbod in windows with software, what about debian then ? |
| 02:21.10 | Cholito | nhuisman_work: really? |
| 02:21.36 | nhuisman_work | Cholito, just lookup your bios at the manufacturers page, write a cd or floppy with the new image, and follow the instructions |
| 02:22.23 | Cholito | one of the updates refers to a DDR2 compatibility ;) |
| 02:22.55 | dmoerner | nhuisman_work, debsecan |
| 02:23.19 | nhuisman_work | dmoerner, I was thinking about apt-cron too |
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| 02:24.54 | Cholito | just one more stupid question (about the bios updates): newer updates will include the old updates? |
| 02:25.04 | nhuisman_work | i think most times they do |
| 02:25.13 | faileas | er... they should |
| 02:25.22 | dmoerner | Cholito, yes, unless the company is very stupid |
| 02:25.35 | faileas | actually they just replace the old firmware with a new one with everything rolled in i think |
| 02:25.39 | nhuisman_work | dmoerner, *cough* cisco *couch* |
| 02:25.41 | Cholito | dmoerner: lol, yeah :D |
| 02:25.49 | nhuisman_work | laugh, couch |
| 02:26.04 | Cholito | nhuisman_work: lmao |
| 02:26.12 | jpinx | I have a dodgy hdd but with lots of data on it. Mount tells me the partition table is bad, but cfdisk reads it ok. Will I lose the data if I just rewrite exactly the same partition table with cfdisk? |
| 02:26.24 | nhuisman_work | once in a while if they change the bios so much that the loader app or something needs changing you need to do it in a few steps |
| 02:26.29 | nhuisman_work | pretty rare though unless your shite is years old |
| 02:26.56 | nhuisman_work | jpinx, and fsck can't repair the partition table? |
| 02:27.36 | Cholito | I have thin one ==> http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overview.aspx?ProductID=2287 |
| 02:27.41 | jpinx | nhuisman_work: I did that but it still is saying the partition table is bad |
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| 02:29.54 | Cholito | the fixes are exe files =S |
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| 02:30.19 | nhuisman_work | Cholito, probably creates a cd or extracts on a cd, read the docs |
| 02:30.32 | Cholito | no docs... |
| 02:31.16 | nhuisman_work | run the exe then |
| 02:31.17 | nhuisman_work | and see what it does |
| 02:31.20 | blameless | Cholito: try unziping it |
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| 02:33.18 | Cholito | after wine file.exe, it says it's trying to show me a html file, so I have to install gecko engine (i think...) the install crashes |
| 02:33.43 | nhuisman_work | yeah try to unzip it |
| 02:34.20 | nhuisman_work | dmoerner, how come debsecan shows vulnerabilities if I'm fully up to date? |
| 02:34.35 | dmoerner | nhuisman_work, i don't know, i've never used it myself--only heard about it |
| 02:35.12 | HeXiLed | anyone has a link for etch repositories? |
| 02:35.44 | HeXiLed | just installed debian. |
| 02:35.45 | abrotman | !tell HeXiLed about sources.list |
| 02:35.48 | abrotman | !tell HeXiLed about mirrors |
| 02:35.48 | Cholito | ok, 3 files: a bat file, a exe file and a f14 file |
| 02:36.10 | nhuisman_work | Cholito, ok I assume you burn that on a cd and boot off of it. |
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| 02:36.21 | nhuisman_work | err show me link where you downloaded this |
| 02:36.22 | faileas | abrotman: hmm.. broken bot? |
| 02:36.24 | jpinx | will I lose the data if I overwrite the partition table with the same info? |
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| 02:36.28 | abrotman | faileas: why? |
| 02:36.31 | ampex | is there a way under linux to specify that only certain users can get out to the internet? |
| 02:36.31 | abrotman | bot works fine |
| 02:36.36 | ampex | bsd pf can do this |
| 02:36.38 | faileas | ahh |
| 02:36.42 | faileas | it pms ;p |
| 02:36.44 | crem | Could you please tell me ip address of any of dns server? looks like ones of my ISP are down and I cannot google it as I don't know google's address either. |
| 02:36.45 | HeXiLed | whats the name of the bot abrotman ? i need to add it to my allow pm list |
| 02:36.46 | nhuisman_work | jpinx, I can see it fubaring the data. |
| 02:36.47 | chipbuddy | i have an old laptop that i want to get some form of linux on. the laptop will have no internet, and really all i want to do is program. what do i want? |
| 02:36.48 | ampex | I don't know that iptables can filter based upon the user generating the packet |
| 02:36.51 | abrotman | HeXiLed: dpkg |
| 02:37.05 | HeXiLed | thanks |
| 02:37.09 | HeXiLed | !tell HeXiLed about sources.list |
| 02:37.10 | nhuisman_work | chipbuddy, have you ever used linux? |
| 02:37.11 | HeXiLed | !tell HeXiLed about mirrors |
| 02:37.20 | abrotman | !tell HeXiLed about selftell |
| 02:37.28 | faileas | lol |
| 02:37.33 | ampex | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:37.36 | ampex | argh |
| 02:37.36 | jpinx | nhuisman_work: :( fsck says one partition is ok, and cfdisk agrees, but mount rejects it |
| 02:37.37 | ampex | sry |
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| 02:37.41 | ampex | accidentally pasted |
| 02:37.55 | chipbuddy | nhuisman_work, yeah i'm using ubuntu on this machine right now. but i'm not very experienced with anything else |
| 02:37.57 | abrotman | ampex: i'm not aware of any way to do that .. maybe ask #iptables .. but i don't bleieve it's possible |
| 02:38.02 | nhuisman_work | chipbuddy, so just use ubuntu |
| 02:38.17 | Cholito | nhuisman_work: you want the download url? |
| 02:38.29 | nhuisman_work | Cholito, i'm just going to look for install docs |
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| 02:38.47 | chipbuddy | nhuisman_work, it's a really old laptop... 64 mb of ram, and 5 gig hard drive. can it handle ubuntu? |
| 02:38.56 | mitchell | guys anyone can tell me how can i make my creative X-FI Fatality soundcar work????? I use etch |
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| 02:39.09 | nhuisman_work | chipbuddy, did you want a gui? |
| 02:39.13 | abrotman | chipbuddy: you'd ask #ubuntu about that |
| 02:39.17 | abrotman | chipbuddy: we can tell you about debian |
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| 02:40.05 | nhuisman_work | chipbuddy, which ever one you choose (they are really similar in terms of package manager, etc) you will probably want a really lightweight window manager if your are going to run X11 |
| 02:40.05 | chipbuddy | nhuisman_work, i don't need one. i think i just want to be able to open multipe windows running vi. |
| 02:40.43 | abrotman | chipbuddy: so jsut install debian .. no X .. |
| 02:40.55 | jberg | 7 |
| 02:41.17 | nhuisman_work | yeah you can start with debian with zero package groups |
| 02:41.18 | abrotman | 8 |
| 02:41.40 | nhuisman_work | that's what I do, then I have a standard set I add. |
| 02:41.55 | HeXiLed | !tell me about repositories |
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| 02:42.10 | HeXiLed | !tell me about sources.list |
| 02:42.13 | abrotman | HeXiLed: /msg dpkg foo |
| 02:42.17 | faileas | chipbuddy: wha do you want to use it for? |
| 02:42.21 | HeXiLed | ah . yes. sorry |
| 02:42.41 | Cholito | nhuisman_work: did you download the file? |
| 02:42.43 | nhuisman_work | HeXiLed, get some? i can msg you mine |
| 02:42.58 | chipbuddy | faileas: i want to primarily be able to program with it. |
| 02:43.03 | HeXiLed | only have too for etch |
| 02:43.18 | HeXiLed | sure show me yours |
| 02:43.20 | faileas | chipbuddy: need a graphical IDE? |
| 02:43.21 | nhuisman_work | by the way chipbuddy you can also look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu |
| 02:43.24 | abrotman | HeXiLed: that's all you need |
| 02:43.33 | faileas | entirely command line, no issues, thats not a problem |
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| 02:43.51 | abrotman | HeXiLed: those are the standard etch repos .. introducing third-party repos can introduce issues .. be careful using them |
| 02:43.53 | faileas | else you might want to go for the lightest DE you can, and be prepared to wait a while to compile |
| 02:44.01 | chipbuddy | faileas: nope, but being able to type in multiple windows would be nice |
| 02:44.03 | abrotman | nhuisman_work: you know .. you are in #debian .. |
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| 02:44.31 | faileas | chipbuddy: hmm... i think someone recommended a window manager called ratpoison... |
| 02:44.35 | HeXiLed | i only want stable ones . |
| 02:44.53 | abrotman | HeXiLed: then use the two that you have .. they should be a regular source and a security source |
| 02:44.55 | faileas | hmm |
| 02:44.56 | nhuisman_work | fine :P http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/432 |
| 02:45.09 | faileas | anyone know where i can get a checkinstall package for etch? |
| 02:45.19 | HeXiLed | arew these also ok : http://rafb.net/p/MIKdv777.html |
| 02:45.24 | chipbuddy | ok thanks |
| 02:45.31 | abrotman | faileas: what about stow ? |
| 02:45.31 | dmoerner | faileas, try to look in the same trash can you are about to throw your etch install :) |
| 02:45.45 | abrotman | HeXiLed: those are fine .. though you don't need the non-us ones |
| 02:45.53 | abrotman | faileas: or /msg dpkg ssb |
| 02:45.59 | faileas | dmoerner: erf. i have that system set up exactly like i like it ;p |
| 02:46.06 | HeXiLed | abrotman http://rafb.net/p/8HLAic70.html all i have |
| 02:46.13 | abrotman | HeXiLed: those are fine .. though you don't need the non-us ones |
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| 02:46.24 | faileas | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:46.45 | HeXiLed | ok removed. |
| 02:47.03 | Cholito | nhuisman_work: no docs huh? |
| 02:47.11 | nhuisman_work | Cholito, looking |
| 02:47.20 | faileas | dmoerner: meaning? |
| 02:47.22 | HeXiLed | abrotman are these always updated with the latest stable packages ? |
| 02:47.42 | abrotman | HeXiLed: actually .. half point at stable .. half point at tech |
| 02:47.43 | dmoerner | faileas, i mean that stable is not something you want to mix with a tool like checkinstall |
| 02:47.47 | abrotman | erm .. s/tech/etch |
| 02:47.59 | dmoerner | faileas, better to either compile in /opt or ideally make a proper .deb |
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| 02:48.19 | abrotman | dmoerner: what's wrong with checkinstall compared to just dropping in /opt/ ? |
| 02:49.08 | nhuisman_work | Cholito, http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/Motherboard/HowToReflashBIOS.aspx |
| 02:49.10 | faileas | dmoerner: ahh, its mainly cause i'd rather use a seperate box to compile and move things over to the 'production' box. i've used checkinstall in ubuntu and it was VERY helpful so i figured i'd install it in my debian systems. haven't had luck |
| 02:49.10 | dmoerner | abrotman, i'd rather have a self-contained hand-compiled environment than bother with checkinstall's non-policy consistent debs that will install in the normal file hierarchy |
| 02:49.16 | abrotman | faileas: anyways .. there's an app called stow that does roughly the same thing |
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| 02:49.28 | abrotman | dmoerner: it doesn't create debs IIRC |
| 02:49.29 | faileas | abrotman: i'll take a look at that |
| 02:49.31 | abrotman | !checkinstall |
| 02:49.31 | dpkg | from memory, checkinstall is a program that tracks all files installed by "make install" (or equivalent), creates a Debian (or other) Package with those files, and adds it to the installed packages database, allowing for easy package removal or distribution. http://asic-linux.com.mx/~izto/checkinstall/ | Not in etch because http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=57724#57724 Ask me about <stow>. |
| 02:49.51 | abrotman | i guess you can .. yay new stuff! |
| 02:49.52 | dmoerner | abrotman, it does make debs " creates a Debian (or other) Package with those files" |
| 02:49.54 | abrotman | crams more in |
| 02:49.58 | abrotman | dmoerner: but it's an option ? |
| 02:50.18 | abrotman | TBH .. if it puts it in non-standard places .. dont' care as long as it's maintained by something that keeps track of those files |
| 02:51.05 | dmoerner | abrotman, it's not the worst tool and certainly better than make install but i'd rather not use it |
| 02:51.09 | nhuisman_work | Cholito, http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/FileList/WebPage/motherboard_howtoreflash_bios/flashbios_dos.pdf |
| 02:51.49 | abrotman | dmoerner: right .. he's looking at stow too i guess |
| 02:52.18 | dmoerner | stow is a better way to do the install into /opt thing i wasn't aware of it since i always just build debs |
| 02:52.19 | Cholito | I thought you were looking inside the package..... |
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| 02:54.24 | nhuisman_work | Cholito, go get yourself a freedos boot image |
| 02:54.39 | nhuisman_work | http://www.fdos.org/bootdisks/freedos.org |
| 02:54.42 | nhuisman_work | then copy those files to it |
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| 02:54.53 | abrotman | dmoerner: meh .. either is still better than no management at all :) |
| 02:55.05 | faileas | dmoerner: in that case i'll have to poke at getting a deb build environment up ;p |
| 02:55.27 | faileas | (its all VMs anyway) |
| 02:55.35 | dmoerner | faileas, it's probably not worth the trouble for just a few packages |
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| 02:55.55 | dmoerner | since i build more substantial stuff i always use git-buildpackage and cowdancer |
| 02:56.08 | Cholito | nhuisman_work: thanks man :) |
| 02:56.14 | Cholito | I owe you a beer ;) |
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| 02:57.01 | nhuisman_work | Next time you're in hawaii let me know :p |
| 02:57.09 | faileas | dmoerner: well its something i can call on as and when i need it. i don't have a practical reason for a local DNS server either ;p |
| 02:57.30 | ugly | is there a site which would still have the now-removed linux-kbuild-2.6.22 package? linux-image-2.6.22 (which is still in lenny) depends on it, but it is not available |
| 02:57.53 | faileas | is using beyond, since he dosen't quite need an authoritative nameserver, and dosen't trust bind anyway ;p |
| 02:58.00 | abrotman | ugly: upgrade your kernel |
| 02:58.17 | ugly | abrotman: I want to downgrade from 2.6.25 because vmware will not compile with my current vers |
| 02:58.34 | abrotman | why not? |
| 02:58.39 | faileas | ugly: tried using the any-any patch with vmware? |
| 02:58.51 | dmoerner | ugly, snapshot.debian.net |
| 02:58.52 | ugly | faileas: yes, the 116 version and the so-called "VERY ALPHA" one |
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| 02:59.02 | faileas | wierd |
| 02:59.02 | icedtea | ugly: I had not prob with vmware compiling |
| 02:59.10 | ugly | icedtea: amd64 branch here |
| 02:59.11 | icedtea | ugly: with 2.6.25 that is |
| 02:59.15 | icedtea | oh |
| 02:59.17 | icedtea | ok |
| 02:59.18 | faileas | very very alpha = the bridgeing wireless one? |
| 02:59.21 | icedtea | dunno about that |
| 02:59.22 | ugly | dmoerner: I'll check that out |
| 02:59.28 | abrotman | still wonders why it doesn't work .. but whatever |
| 02:59.39 | ugly | faileas: maybe, I was just blindly applying patches out of desperation :P |
| 02:59.49 | faileas | lol |
| 02:59.56 | faileas | always know what you're doing |
| 03:00.00 | ugly | abrotman: compile errors about poll_initwait |
| 03:00.01 | faileas | else it gets messy ;p |
| 03:00.05 | abrotman | ugly: ah ok |
| 03:00.14 | ugly | I can give you more specific if you want, but it's all cryptic to me :P |
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| 03:01.08 | nhuisman_work | i don't see 2.6.25 in my repo? |
| 03:01.10 | nhuisman_work | is that for lenny? |
| 03:01.19 | abrotman | yes |
| 03:01.21 | nhuisman_work | ah |
| 03:01.24 | abrotman | etch has a .24 via etchnhalf |
| 03:02.01 | faileas | wonders whats the naming scheme for debian |
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| 03:02.10 | dmoerner | !toystory |
| 03:02.10 | dpkg | toystory is, like, an hardhitting documentary focusing on the social interaction of toys. or see toy story |
| 03:02.19 | nhuisman_work | the gentoo naming scheme is pretty hilarious |
| 03:02.19 | nhuisman_work | hehe |
| 03:02.38 | dmoerner | fedora was best i think...5 straight releases named after drinks |
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| 03:02.55 | faileas | ubuntu is boring, alphabetical ;p |
| 03:03.04 | faileas | i mean alphabetical alliteration |
| 03:03.20 | blameless | someone is secretly working on the inside to convice pixar to release another toystory right. don't want to run out of names |
| 03:03.30 | HeXiLed | what is the login manager that xfce4 uses? anyone knows it's name ? |
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| 03:03.42 | abrotman | HeXiLed: yoyu can use any you like |
| 03:03.44 | dmoerner | HeXiLed, there isn't one. most people use gdm, or xdm or slim if you want something lighter |
| 03:03.46 | abrotman | gdm? xdm ? |
| 03:03.46 | blameless | HeXiLed: i usually use gdm |
| 03:03.54 | abrotman | blameless: plenty of names left |
| 03:04.20 | blameless | abrotman: indeed but now with debian releasing more often it is a concern |
| 03:04.21 | nhuisman_work | gentoo's latest code-name : "It's got what plants crave" |
| 03:04.23 | nhuisman_work | lmao |
| 03:04.25 | HeXiLed | yah something light. i dont want gnome deps here. only fluxbox and xfce4 will be used. |
| 03:04.33 | HeXiLed | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:04.39 | abrotman | nhuisman_work: really .. this is #debian |
| 03:05.08 | dmoerner | HeXiLed, slim is much nicer |
| 03:05.09 | blameless | sudo aptitude clean |
| 03:05.11 | dmoerner | in my opinion |
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| 03:05.27 | nhuisman_work | meh |
| 03:05.42 | HeXiLed | dmoerner looks nice. |
| 03:05.50 | HeXiLed | depends on anything ? |
| 03:05.51 | ugly | dmoerner: that snapshot site had the package I was looking for - thank you, sir |
| 03:06.14 | ugly | can't for the life of me figure out why it was removed from lenny when the headers package depends on it... |
| 03:06.38 | HeXiLed | apt cant seem to find slim dmoerner |
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| 03:06.54 | pickcoder | sniffs |
| 03:06.59 | dmoerner | HeXiLed, sorry it's not in etch |
| 03:07.06 | dmoerner | slim | 1.3.0-1 | testing | source, alpha, amd64, arm, armel, hppa, i386, ia64, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc |
| 03:07.06 | pickcoder | I must stink.. every night abrotman leaves when I join |
| 03:07.07 | HeXiLed | manual install ? |
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| 03:10.16 | stevedondley | ping dondelelcaro |
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| 03:15.25 | jaggz1 | oops. |
| 03:15.31 | tripzero | in a debian package control file, can the architecture be "i686" ? or must it be i386? |
| 03:15.42 | jaggz1 | Hey, how do I get midi synthesis going? (I don't have an actual midi device, just my normal audio card .. which works) |
| 03:17.47 | liable | 386 |
| 03:17.58 | tripzero | ok, thnx |
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| 03:24.41 | HeXiLed | i am having a bit of trouble with ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE] . is ati working well with etch ? |
| 03:25.05 | HeXiLed | XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" |
| 03:25.05 | HeXiLed | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:27.12 | mogra | debian lenny, trying to install nvidia (the Debian Way) on kernel 2.6.25-2-686, when I try to install the pkg for nvidia-glx, it conflicts with xserver-xorg-core. |
| 03:28.37 | Pavlz | hello |
| 03:28.54 | Pavlz | i would ask a think |
| 03:29.06 | Cholito | a thing? |
| 03:29.07 | Pavlz | i got a pcmcia |
| 03:29.14 | Pavlz | thing |
| 03:29.23 | Pavlz | i typed a key for another |
| 03:29.32 | Cholito | :) |
| 03:29.39 | Cholito | we are still humans ;) |
| 03:30.02 | pickcoder | is a humanoid |
| 03:30.03 | mogra | it appears Cholito has yet to upgrade o_o |
| 03:30.10 | Cholito | is going to update the bios... |
| 03:30.25 | Cholito | mogra: indeed, still waiting for DHL |
| 03:30.26 | Pavlz | to shell i must digit lspci - option but which option ? |
| 03:30.37 | Pavlz | i don't rember more |
| 03:30.53 | Pavlz | lspci - |
| 03:30.59 | Cholito | Pavlz: where are you from? |
| 03:31.09 | Pavlz | it |
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| 03:31.41 | Cholito | #debian-it ? |
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| 03:31.54 | Pavlz | lspci - |
| 03:32.24 | Cholito | don't want to be mean, but you might want to try |
| 03:33.03 | Cholito | Pavlz: did you try man lspci? |
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| 03:33.23 | pickcoder | lspci -n gives vendor and device id |
| 03:33.25 | Vi^3PP | i have a lenny install with LAMP from the lenny repo... for some reason i cant even get a simple hello.php file to work and ive tried chown the /var/www from root to www-data but this is not working... phpmyadmin and webmin do work ... an added note is that i must use port 8080 and think i have apache set up correctly.. can anyone help me |
| 03:33.27 | pickcoder | !it |
| 03:33.28 | dpkg | Ciao! Utilizzi prego #debian-it per aiuto Italiano-orientato. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help. |
| 03:33.39 | Vi^3PP | the err generate is 403 forbidden |
| 03:34.10 | Cholito | Vi^3PP: files are 775? |
| 03:34.27 | TiMiDo | hey i have a question what program do i need to download... so i can used the pppoe? |
| 03:34.39 | mogra | anyone know how to resolve the error installing nvidia-glx, says conflicts with xserver-xorg-core |
| 03:34.41 | Vi^3PP | let me check Cholito |
| 03:35.02 | monobug | any tips for simple ethernet cards that works by default for Debian? |
| 03:35.07 | Cholito | TiMiDo: there was a d4x or something like that |
| 03:35.27 | Cholito | monobug: rtl have been working for ages |
| 03:35.40 | mogra | most 3Com work as well |
| 03:35.41 | pickcoder | monobug: just about any 10/100 should work.. even most of the onboard ones will work with 2.6 kernels |
| 03:35.46 | Cholito | RTL-8139 i think |
| 03:36.01 | pickcoder | netgear and d-link are normally easy to work with |
| 03:36.08 | TiMiDo | hey i have a question what program do i need to download... so i can used the pppoe? |
| 03:36.20 | monobug | pickcoder, my Attanic card does not work, so i need to buy a real cheap one just to get Debian on my desktop comp |
| 03:36.21 | Cholito | TiMiDo: there was a d4x or something like that |
| 03:36.25 | mogra | Cholito: I don't think reading is his strongpoint |
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| 03:36.40 | monobug | yes, by netinstall that is |
| 03:36.41 | Cholito | I know.... |
| 03:36.45 | TiMiDo | Cholito i need the name so.. i can download i |
| 03:36.46 | kanzure | Flash has suddenly stopped working in both Firefox and Opera. I think I need to reinstall a package. Which one? |
| 03:36.47 | TiMiDo | t |
| 03:36.50 | TiMiDo | and burn it |
| 03:36.52 | Pavlz | i used lspci -x| |
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| 03:36.54 | pickcoder | monobug: what does lspci -n say the vendor and device id are (you will need to get the pci bus id from lspci first) |
| 03:36.54 | Vi^3PP | Cholito, my test hello.php file is 775 www-data www-data |
| 03:36.56 | Cholito | TiMiDo: then search google |
| 03:37.07 | mogra | !tell TiMiDo about google |
| 03:37.07 | Vi^3PP | but i still get the same error |
| 03:37.09 | Cholito | Vi^3PP: and still 403? |
| 03:37.21 | Vi^3PP | yes |
| 03:37.38 | pickcoder | Cholito: if php works then it's probably an apache config error |
| 03:37.46 | Nyle | man I give up |
| 03:37.54 | Nyle | fuck curlftpfs, fuck it up its stupid ass. :( |
| 03:37.59 | Pavlz | said me is Airgo NetworksUnknown device 0001 (rev 03) |
| 03:38.00 | pickcoder | er.. that was for Vi^3PP |
| 03:38.15 | n-iCe | Nyle: do you know any software similar to photoshop? |
| 03:38.19 | Cholito | Vi^3PP: I have this ==> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 45 ago 1 14:20 index.html |
| 03:38.19 | Nyle | gimp |
| 03:38.26 | Nyle | n-iCe, the GIMP! |
| 03:38.29 | Cholito | pickcoder: yeap, it might be |
| 03:38.31 | Pavlz | and after all hex code |
| 03:38.34 | mogra | No manual entry for 'I give up' |
| 03:38.40 | Nyle | n-iCe, there is also blender |
| 03:38.45 | monobug | pickcoder, 2969:2058 (rev b0) |
| 03:38.47 | Nyle | monobug, hehe |
| 03:39.07 | n-iCe | Nyle: I got Gimp, ok, thanks, any software like, dreamweaver? of frontpage |
| 03:39.09 | n-iCe | or * |
| 03:39.20 | monobug | 1968:1048 i mean |
| 03:39.25 | Cholito | n-iCe: yeap, google |
| 03:39.29 | tripzero | anyone know how how I can get the name of the product of `make dist` from the cli ? |
| 03:39.30 | Vi^3PP | pickcoder, phpmyadmin works as does webmin but this file im trying to test is a php file |
| 03:39.33 | mogra | n-iCe: vim or emacs |
| 03:39.33 | Pavlz | 00: cb 17 01 00 00 00 90 02 03 00 00 02 00 f8 00 00 |
| 03:39.35 | Vi^3PP | just gives phpinfo |
| 03:39.41 | Cholito | n-iCe: nvu is a good option |
| 03:39.50 | faileas | n-iCe: i think nvu, thought i recall they changed the name to something like kompozer |
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| 03:40.10 | n-iCe | And you Nyle *G* |
| 03:40.13 | n-iCe | Thanks guys :p |
| 03:40.20 | Pavlz | 10: 00 00 08 c4 00 00 00 c4 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |
| 03:40.21 | Cholito | Vi^3PP: maybe the php code is trying t do something 403-ish |
| 03:40.50 | Nyle | huh? |
| 03:40.52 | Cholito | Pavlz: do you see your card? |
| 03:40.53 | Nyle | what did I do? |
| 03:41.00 | Pavlz | 20: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 19 34 00 00 37 17 37 00 |
| 03:41.01 | icedtea | whats a good commandline wav format player? |
| 03:41.03 | Cholito | Nyle: you wrote :P |
| 03:41.07 | Nyle | oh |
| 03:41.14 | Nyle | yes, yes I did |
| 03:41.15 | Cholito | =))) |
| 03:41.23 | Vi^3PP | its just phpinfo Cholito |
| 03:41.25 | Nyle | icedtea, alsaplayer? |
| 03:41.35 | Cholito | phpinfo(); ? |
| 03:41.41 | Cholito | weird..... |
| 03:41.42 | Vi^3PP | ya just a test file |
| 03:41.44 | Pavlz | 30: 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0b 01 18 ff |
| 03:41.59 | mogra | icedtea: or vlc has a nice ncurses interface, imo |
| 03:42.00 | Pavlz | the pcmcia would to work |
| 03:42.01 | pickcoder | monobug: I don't see either of those vendors in the pci id list |
| 03:42.13 | Pavlz | does not blik |
| 03:42.38 | icedtea | Nyle: thanks I'll try that |
| 03:42.40 | Pavlz | but as you can see the pc give the result in hex |
| 03:42.56 | Pavlz | the pc gives |
| 03:43.05 | Nyle | icedtea, aptitude search wav player |
| 03:43.13 | Nyle | enjoy |
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| 03:43.59 | pickcoder | monobug: can you paste the lspci -n line |
| 03:44.05 | Pavlz | howto ping on a pcmcia |
| 03:44.20 | n-iCe | Cholito: thanks, that's like I wanted, but is KDE, is there any gnome software if not, is ok |
| 03:44.21 | monobug | the desktop is with no internet and i am not able to copy from it either... |
| 03:44.43 | Cholito | Vi^3PP: it has to be your config as I just created a phpinfo() file and everything is ok |
| 03:44.54 | Cholito | n-iCe: kde what? |
| 03:45.15 | mogra | Vi^3PP: does a Hello World script work? |
| 03:45.17 | monobug | pickcoder, if you tell me that most intel ethernet cards are supported, i am good for buying one to make this work ;) |
| 03:45.33 | pickcoder | monobug: is this a card or onboard |
| 03:45.37 | Vi^3PP | no mogra thats what im saying.. i get a 403 error |
| 03:45.39 | Cholito | Pavlz: is the pcmcia a network card? |
| 03:45.41 | monobug | pickcoder, onboard |
| 03:45.50 | monobug | pickcoder, i |
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| 03:46.21 | mogra | you checked the security settings in apache? |
| 03:46.29 | pickcoder | the vendor:device is col 3 of lspci -n |
| 03:46.31 | Vi^3PP | like? |
| 03:46.44 | Cholito | ok, rebooting to update bios...I hope |
| 03:46.49 | jaggz1 | has anyone here gotten (gotten?) midi synthesis to work? |
| 03:47.21 | phillipsjk | monobug: you don't NEED to copy and past 'lspci' output, you just need to fond the line that refers to the "Ethernet Controller" |
| 03:47.23 | mogra | check that VirtualHost and see if there might be anything DENY on that folder, or if that folder has a .htaccess in it check there too. |
| 03:47.28 | jaggz1 | I'd like to use rosegarden or noteedit but I can't play the midi |
| 03:47.40 | pickcoder | monobug: if you're dead set on intel, then I would say that most of them work but I wouldn't bet my savings on every card |
| 03:47.51 | pickcoder | if you get a cheap card it's going to be rtl or tulip based |
| 03:47.54 | pickcoder | and it will work |
| 03:48.10 | pickcoder | google around for a specific intel model if you want verification |
| 03:48.18 | mogra | heh, Torvalds says all Intel chipsets work well in Linux... xD |
| 03:48.45 | pickcoder | Yeah.. as long as they're not brand new server boards with b0rked bios |
| 03:48.50 | pickcoder | scoffs |
| 03:49.00 | zinx | most ethernet in general works in Linux |
| 03:49.22 | mogra | pickcoder: Somehow I think that is influenced by the fact that he lives in the same appt complex as Intel execs and is invited to many parties... |
| 03:49.48 | WormFood | while most ethernet works well with Linux, sadly not all wireless works well |
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| 03:49.51 | pickcoder | lan party? |
| 03:49.52 | pickcoder | heh |
| 03:49.56 | monobug | pickcoder, 02:00.00200: 1969;1048 (rev b0) |
| 03:50.07 | mogra | :) |
| 03:50.08 | pickcoder | monobug: I don't even see that vendor:device on google |
| 03:50.11 | jaggz1 | http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Applications_GUI_Multimedia/Three_Steps_to_MIDI_on_Linux |
| 03:50.16 | monobug | it |
| 03:50.22 | monobug | it's what i got... |
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| 03:50.27 | zinx | WormFood: this is true.. but if you get a 802.11 draft-n card you are probably ok (because there are only two, broadcom/intel... get the intel :P ) |
| 03:50.43 | pickcoder | mm broadcom |
| 03:51.02 | WormFood | I have a prism54g, hardware card...paid 50 RMB for it, or about $7.50 usd |
| 03:51.06 | mogra | Google doesn't see it, it must not be real. monobug, save that card, it's unique, it's not real. |
| 03:51.24 | Pavlz | good |
| 03:51.31 | Pavlz | do you sell me ? |
| 03:51.37 | monobug | mogra there are chances i am providing faulty information here |
| 03:51.44 | pickcoder | mogra: it's probably a typo in the chip ID |
| 03:51.45 | mogra | :O |
| 03:51.49 | Pavlz | i bought from italy |
| 03:51.50 | pickcoder | wouldn't that be fun |
| 03:51.50 | WormFood | I wished I had gotten the atheros, or whatever one works that lets me inject packets and monitor at the same time |
| 03:51.57 | mogra | pickcoder: I like my theory |
| 03:51.58 | zinx | mogra: eh, google finds it fine here |
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| 03:52.05 | pickcoder | 10K net controllers with messed up codes |
| 03:52.15 | pickcoder | zinx: what planet? |
| 03:52.23 | zinx | mogra: "L1 Gigabit Ethernet Adapter" |
| 03:52.29 | faileas | mogra: that and intel releasing open source drivers for a LOT of their hardware, one way or nother |
| 03:52.34 | Vi^3PP | mogra, ive checked sites-enabled.. there is not a file, there is no httpd and ports is set to 8080 with no virtualhosts... |
| 03:52.41 | pickcoder | oh wait |
| 03:52.44 | zinx | mogra: also listed as "Attansic L1 Gigabit Ethernet 10/100/1000Base-T Adapter [ASUSTeK Computer Inc]" |
| 03:52.51 | pickcoder | you typed 1968:1048 earlier |
| 03:52.53 | WormFood | I found one ethernet card that won't work under Linux...can't remember if it was an intel or 3com card....but it was a 100 mbit ISA card. |
| 03:53.00 | pickcoder | yeah it's there |
| 03:53.15 | WormFood | at least, it didn't work years ago when I tried it...perhaps it works now, but I don't care |
| 03:53.17 | mogra | points zinx to monobug |
| 03:53.22 | mogra | it's his card, not mine |
| 03:53.31 | zinx | mogra: i'm saying it does exist, and google does find it. |
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| 03:53.44 | monobug | ok, i fat fingered earlier, sorry |
| 03:53.45 | zinx | mogra: i've no idea how to help monobug :P |
| 03:54.06 | mogra | that's great, here's a cookie. I wasn't the one searching it. In that case, *points zinx to pickcoder* |
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| 03:54.27 | pickcoder | not my fault... I don't have my glasses on |
| 03:54.29 | pickcoder | heh |
| 03:54.37 | zinx | mogra: was replying to: <mogra> Google doesn't see it, it must not be real. monobug, save that card, it's unique, it's not real. |
| 03:54.44 | pickcoder | at any rate |
| 03:55.05 | monobug | zinx, okies |
| 03:55.25 | pickcoder | that's an alt card |
| 03:55.28 | pickcoder | gah |
| 03:55.30 | pickcoder | atl |
| 03:55.32 | mogra | pickcoder: don't need no glasses on a 22" 80x25 display :3 |
| 03:55.35 | Pavlz | which are RMB country ? |
| 03:56.18 | WormFood | Pavlz, China |
| 03:56.54 | WormFood | yes, I bought my wireless card in China....I can get a ton of wireless laptop cards here (mini-pci) |
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| 03:57.20 | mogra | Vi^3PP: there's bound to be a permissions fault somewhere there. if a PHPInfo(), much less a HelloWorld(), gets a 403 something's up on either config of php, config of apache, or permissions. |
| 03:57.29 | Pavlz | in China there is the Yuan |
| 03:57.51 | WormFood | Pavlz, yuan = å
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| 03:58.03 | mogra | 8 yuan -> 1 dollar |
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| 03:58.06 | WormFood | it is also called the RMB |
| 03:58.27 | pickcoder | monobug: you can probably build a driver for it |
| 03:58.30 | WormFood | no mogra ....the dollar is shit....1 usd = <7 rmb now |
| 03:58.35 | monobug | pickcoder, there is one, but it wont work with any kernel below 2.6.22 |
| 03:58.40 | Vi^3PP | this test file it 775 perms, apache has only 2 changes to it... server to PROD and 8080 listen and i dont know how to mess with php |
| 03:58.47 | pickcoder | monobug: so grab 2.6.25-2 from bpo |
| 03:58.54 | pickcoder | or buy a new nic :) |
| 03:58.55 | mogra | WormFood: :( has it been that long since I've been in China? geez |
| 03:58.57 | monobug | with no internet? |
| 03:59.04 | WormFood | mogra, the exchange rate now is something like 1usd = 6.9 RMB |
| 03:59.07 | pickcoder | monobug: how are you chatting? |
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| 03:59.35 | Pavlz | CNY-USD=7,2885 USD |
| 03:59.43 | monobug | pickcoder, internet, xchat, laptop |
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| 03:59.52 | WormFood | what is funny, is the fact that all paper money has the same value....a 1 dollar bill has the same value as a 100 dollar bill...they are just a piece of paper, the only difference is the arrangement of the ink |
| 04:00.03 | Pavlz | can you find me one ? |
| 04:00.19 | icedtea | WormFood: are you there for the games? |
| 04:00.36 | WormFood | so, people's perception of the value of money is based on their faith in the government.....with the usd being so weak, it shows that people have little faith in the usa government |
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| 04:00.39 | HeXiLed | how do i modprobe fglrx ? |
| 04:00.42 | WormFood | no icedtea |
| 04:00.51 | WormFood | I have been in China since January |
| 04:00.52 | HeXiLed | what is the name of the driver/mod ? |
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| 04:01.12 | WormFood | Pavlz, are you talking to me? find you one what? wireless card? |
| 04:01.30 | pickcoder | monobug: what release are you on |
| 04:01.46 | monobug | on the laptop? |
| 04:01.52 | Pavlz | ok no problems i sent you money with the Bank on your own currency count |
| 04:02.01 | Pavlz | or cash |
| 04:02.14 | pickcoder | no |
| 04:02.37 | pickcoder | the net-lacking box |
| 04:02.48 | monobug | etch |
| 04:02.57 | WormFood | I don't how how much shipping costs...probably come out to be about 20-30 usd with shipping an all |
| 04:03.33 | Pavlz | all the commmunity helped linus torvalds benedict to buy a pc i386 and he was in Sweden |
| 04:03.33 | dmoerner | HeXiLed, modprobe fglrx is the name |
| 04:03.47 | Pavlz | i am in italy |
| 04:04.06 | pickcoder | monobug: you should be able to download the .deb and install it |
| 04:04.07 | pickcoder | burn it to CD |
| 04:04.07 | WormFood | Pavlz, 1/4 of my blood is Italian ;) |
| 04:04.16 | Pavlz | say me where i can buy in China |
| 04:04.22 | monobug | the .deb of atl1? |
| 04:04.36 | Pavlz | i order in China |
| 04:04.47 | WormFood | I bought my card at the electronics flea market in Guangzhou |
| 04:04.51 | pickcoder | monobug: no.. the 2.6.25 kernel |
| 04:04.54 | pickcoder | from bpo |
| 04:05.09 | Pavlz | flea is a company |
| 04:05.27 | faileas | WormFood: might have falled off the back of the truck then ;p |
| 04:05.29 | pickcoder | see if you have module-init-tools on it and initramfs-tools |
| 04:05.29 | monobug | pickcoder, what about the deps and such? |
| 04:05.30 | faileas | *fallen |
| 04:05.42 | mogra | biab |
| 04:05.47 | pickcoder | dpkg -l | grep module-init |
| 04:05.47 | dpkg | No packages found matching | grep module-init |
| 04:06.04 | WormFood | faileas, no....they had stacks and stacks of many different kinds of cards |
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| 04:06.22 | WormFood | most of the vendors on the laptop floor has wireless cards |
| 04:06.43 | Pavlz | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:07.05 | faileas | WormFood: its a metaphor. |
| 04:07.05 | WormFood | I would have gotten an intel 2200 card, but the newest kernel with debian sid totally fucked up most of the wireless drivers....if I had simply booted an older kernel, everything would have worked great |
| 04:07.25 | WormFood | faileas, meaning that it was probably stolen....and I'm sure it wasn't |
| 04:07.42 | faileas | WormFood: seems awefully cheap |
| 04:08.00 | WormFood | this is china man! |
| 04:08.04 | WormFood | EVERYTHING is cheap here |
| 04:08.32 | faileas | everything fell off the back of many trucks? |
| 04:08.35 | faileas | hides |
| 04:08.41 | faileas | hmm |
| 04:08.44 | Pavlz | what is your card ? |
| 04:08.47 | WormFood | seriously, most of the stuff I buy here would cost 2 to 10 times more in usa |
| 04:08.49 | faileas | ponders trying something... |
| 04:08.54 | WormFood | it is a used prism54g |
| 04:08.58 | WormFood | it was not new |
| 04:08.59 | Pavlz | name |
| 04:09.01 | faileas | 2-3 times more, yeah, i can grok |
| 04:09.05 | faileas | ahh USED |
| 04:09.15 | faileas | notes computer stuff is about 1/3 what it is in UK |
| 04:09.19 | monobug | pickcoder, nope, i don |
| 04:09.23 | faileas | here = singapore |
| 04:09.26 | Pavlz | a netgear ? d-link ? |
| 04:09.30 | WormFood | it is a hardware based card too....no need to load the firmware |
| 04:09.37 | Pavlz | what is ? |
| 04:09.38 | WormFood | I don't remember the brand name |
| 04:09.47 | pickcoder | you will need module-init-tools and one of the initramfs packages |
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| 04:09.52 | WormFood | hold on a sec and I'll give you the lspci id on the card |
| 04:10.00 | monobug | pickcoder, RTL8139 is supported in Debian i assume? |
| 04:10.03 | Pavlz | read is over the pcmcia |
| 04:10.18 | WormFood | 02:02.0 Network controller: Intersil Corporation ISL3890 [Prism GT/Prism Duette]/ISL3886 [Prism Javelin/Prism Xbow] (rev 01) |
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| 04:10.28 | phillipsjk | nonobug: have two myself :) |
| 04:10.42 | Pavlz | supported |
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| 04:11.27 | monobug | was that messages for me regarding the RTL8139 card? |
| 04:11.34 | pickcoder | monobug: it's supported |
| 04:11.37 | WormFood | not everything here is cheap....razors are fuckin' expensive....about the same price as in usa |
| 04:11.44 | WormFood | and computers are more expensive than in usa |
| 04:12.08 | WormFood | no shit! they make the thinkpads in the city I live in, and I can honestly buy it in USA, and ship it to china cheaper than I can buy it in china |
| 04:12.10 | monobug | pickcoder, then i can buy that card and use it for the installation/eth networking |
| 04:12.24 | monobug | its vendor has dedicated Linux drivers as well |
| 04:13.00 | WormFood | someone was willing to pay for a round trip ticket for me to go back to usa, and buy something for them, and bring it back to china, because it is cheaper than buying it in china |
| 04:13.15 | icedtea | whats the pkg for gnome's desktop? |
| 04:13.26 | pickcoder | bedtime |
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| 04:16.39 | Cholito | i finally got my 4gigs back :P |
| 04:17.21 | Cholito | and learned which revision of my mobo I had lol |
| 04:17.29 | FabParma | I use Debian-Kde version, I am unable to find firefox via APT. The only one I found is -icewease- Should be a repository problem? |
| 04:17.46 | Cholito | FabParma: is the same |
| 04:17.56 | Cholito | FabParma: iceweasel is firefox... |
| 04:18.26 | phillipsjk | FabParma: Debain Firefox is different enouhg that we are not allowed to use the Firefox trademark. |
| 04:18.28 | FabParma | Cholito: this is an old version, id like to install the lates |
| 04:18.48 | Cholito | nhuisman_work: I dind't have to use a boot disk, gigabyte comes with a flash menu at boot time ;) |
| 04:18.57 | Cholito | FabParma: using stable? |
| 04:19.14 | FabParma | Cholito: yes, stable |
| 04:19.28 | TiMiDo | hey i have a question im getting an error installing pppoepconf Preparing to replace pppoe ... dpkg: depency problems prevent configuration of pppoe: pppoe depends on ppp (>= 2.3.10-1; however; Package ppp is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing pppoe (--install): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured processing triggers for man-db ... Errors were encountered while processing: pppoe |
| 04:19.30 | TiMiDo | any ideas? |
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| 04:19.43 | Cholito | !info iceweasel stable |
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| 04:20.16 | dpkg | iceweasel: (lightweight web browser based on Mozilla), section web, is optional. Version: 2.0.0.15-0etch1 (etch), Packaged size: 8903 kB, Installed size: 26348 kB |
| 04:20.24 | Cholito | TiMiDo: configure ppp first? |
| 04:20.34 | TiMiDo | how? |
| 04:20.43 | Cholito | FabParma: you won't get anything newer in stable |
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| 04:20.46 | Pavlz | I believe only adapters that had the Prism chipset were the DWL-650, DWL-520 and DWL-G650 (Rev.A1). Most of these adapters are older, and several are reaching their end of life rotation. this is part of a mail sended me by d-link |
| 04:20.48 | Cholito | !info iceweasel testing |
| 04:20.51 | phillipsjk | dpkg-reconfigure ppp |
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| 04:21.07 | dpkg | iceweasel: (lightweight web browser based on Mozilla), section web, is optional. Version: 3.0.1-1 (lenny), Packaged size: 1095 kB, Installed size: 3656 kB |
| 04:21.16 | Pavlz | now i ask you how can i see if card work well if i order in on-line shop ? |
| 04:21.31 | Cholito | FabParma: unless you use lenny (testing) |
| 04:21.38 | FabParma | if id like to install the ff3 need i to get it from mozilla servers? |
| 04:22.08 | TiMiDo | ./usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: ppp is broken or not fully installed |
| 04:22.16 | TiMiDo | im getting that error |
| 04:23.17 | TiMiDo | any ideas |
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| 04:23.59 | icedtea | TiMiDo: maybe remove and reinstall |
| 04:24.04 | TiMiDo | how |
| 04:24.17 | icedtea | use aptitude |
| 04:24.22 | TiMiDo | how |
| 04:24.36 | icedtea | on a command line |
| 04:24.39 | icedtea | login as root |
| 04:24.42 | icedtea | type aptitude |
| 04:24.44 | TiMiDo | but what |
| 04:24.56 | TiMiDo | ok done |
| 04:25.04 | TiMiDo | i have it on my cdrom |
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| 04:25.09 | icedtea | hit the '/' key |
| 04:25.18 | mahmoud | hi every one |
| 04:25.23 | TiMiDo | ok |
| 04:25.23 | icedtea | and search for ppp |
| 04:25.55 | TiMiDo | ok |
| 04:26.06 | mahmoud | i like to download debian but i dont know download which version |
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| 04:26.08 | TiMiDo | i dont have internet on the machine |
| 04:26.15 | icedtea | hit 'n' to go to the next matching 'ppp' |
| 04:26.30 | icedtea | TiMiDo: you have the ppp packages on cd/dvd? |
| 04:26.36 | elik_ | Hi, I'm having issues with an ata port at startup, something about ata2 being slow to respond and retrying... in the end, everything work, but it takes a long time to boot. Then, I have weird io errors on sdb... which is not even connected |
| 04:26.41 | TiMiDo | yea on cd |
| 04:26.42 | Pavlz | http://www.dlink.it/?go=gNTyP9CgrdFOIC4AStFCF834mptYKO9ZTdvhLPG3yV3oVYt5kP98f8p8M6tj5jkkBSrozSNG/o4IBNo= this is the d-link 650 |
| 04:27.09 | mahmoud | could any one help me to download debian version |
| 04:27.18 | Cholito | mahmoud: ? |
| 04:27.23 | elik_ | I can post the output of my dmesg if someone can remind me the paste bin address |
| 04:27.37 | elik_ | !pastebin |
| 04:27.37 | dpkg | Please don't paste anything into the channel; use a paste site instead, like: http://paste.lisp.org, http://rafb.net/paste/, http://pastebin.ca/, http://picpaste.com for pics. --- Also ask me: <pastebin pipe> |
| 04:27.38 | Cholito | elik_: pastebin.com? |
| 04:27.40 | mahmoud | i had Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz |
| 04:27.48 | Cholito | lol |
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| 04:27.56 | elik_ | :) |
| 04:28.00 | Pavlz | http://www.dlink.it/?go=gNTyP9CnptFMIC4AStFCF834mptYIe5XTNvhLPG3yV3oVYF+kP98f8p8Nqtk/j8qEC3tzyVG+Ik= and this the d-link 650+ |
| 04:28.08 | Cholito | mahmoud: a i386 iso file |
| 04:28.12 | TiMiDo | icedtea how do i installed it by cdrom? |
| 04:28.15 | Sgeo | How do I make a bangpath use a script so that I can specify arguments in the bangpath? |
| 04:28.26 | mahmoud | can i work amd64 |
| 04:28.28 | Pavlz | but nothing about firmware and chipset |
| 04:28.30 | elik_ | isnt it amd64 for amd computers? |
| 04:28.39 | elik_ | core 2 duo computer* |
| 04:28.46 | Cholito | uhhh....tricky one |
| 04:28.52 | Cholito | not sure... |
| 04:29.00 | elik_ | well, you can run both |
| 04:29.03 | zinx | core 2 duos use amd64, yes |
| 04:29.18 | Cholito | then yes =P |
| 04:29.18 | TiMiDo | ?? |
| 04:29.18 | mahmoud | but what is the best |
| 04:29.18 | elik_ | but if you want to use 64 bits, you need amd64 core |
| 04:29.28 | TiMiDo | hey i have a question how can i connect the router? |
| 04:29.29 | zinx | and yeah, i386 will work on amd64 systems |
| 04:29.30 | TiMiDo | to have access on the machine? |
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| 04:29.41 | mahmoud | i dont understand |
| 04:29.42 | TiMiDo | the connecion is pppoe in windows i have to put the username and stuff? |
| 04:29.42 | jared | any source list for joomla? |
| 04:29.46 | TiMiDo | can i connect it some how? |
| 04:29.47 | jared | any source list for joomla? |
| 04:29.51 | zinx | there's not much reason to use i386 on an amd64 system, though :/ |
| 04:29.51 | elik_ | but you might run into problems with some precompiled programs only for 32 bits, like flash and stuff |
| 04:30.00 | Cholito | jared: you can download it directly from joomla |
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| 04:30.01 | elik_ | here is one |
| 04:30.01 | zinx | (java works, flash works, before anyone mentions those -- oops, too late) |
| 04:30.03 | icedtea | TiMiDo: make sure the cd is in, when you installed debian it should be setup to install from cds |
| 04:30.09 | elik_ | lol |
| 04:30.11 | TiMiDo | icedtea/ |
| 04:30.13 | zinx | elik_: that reason is invalid because it isn't true :P |
| 04:30.34 | elik_ | zinx, you're talking about adobe alternatives? |
| 04:30.38 | icedtea | TiMiDo: you can check by looking at the /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 04:30.40 | jared | a source list for debian using apt-get for joomla? |
| 04:30.55 | zinx | elik_: no, i'm talking about adobe flash working in the Debian amd64 port |
| 04:30.58 | Cholito | jared: you can download it directly from joomla |
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| 04:31.10 | elik_ | zinx, well friend, tell me more |
| 04:31.19 | elik_ | zinx, how about reader? |
| 04:31.28 | \amethyst | !nspluginwrapper |
| 04:31.28 | dpkg | i guess nspluginwrapper is a wrapper allowing you to use 32-bit browser plugins in a native x86_64 browser. It is known to work with <Adobe Flash> and a few others. Debian packages are in the <contrib> archive for lenny and later; ask me about <backports.org> for etch packages. |
| 04:31.29 | Aaron_ | icedtea i dont have internet on my box though |
| 04:31.38 | icedtea | Aaron_: do you see a cd entry in your /etc/apt/sources.list file |
| 04:31.42 | Sgeo | How do I specify arguments to a program in a bangpath? |
| 04:31.45 | Aaron_ | nope icedtea |
| 04:31.59 | icedtea | Aaron_: yes I know, you can still use aptitude to install from cd |
| 04:32.11 | Aaron_ | icedtea what option? |
| 04:32.12 | Cholito | mahmoud: yes, you CAN work using a amd64 disk, so you can download the amd64 cd (or dvd) and install Debian |
| 04:32.15 | elik_ | \amethyst, thx |
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| 04:32.36 | icedtea | Aaron_: is this box connected to a switch or router ? |
| 04:32.45 | zinx | elik_: aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree |
| 04:32.52 | zinx | elik_: though it appears it may only be in sid currently |
| 04:32.55 | mahmoud | will it work best than i386 version or i386 best |
| 04:33.02 | Aaron_ | icedtea nope |
| 04:33.18 | elik_ | zinx, yeah, it was in lenny before :( |
| 04:33.29 | elik_ | bah, gonna install it from adobe website |
| 04:33.40 | Cholito | mahmoud: it depends on what you want ;) |
| 04:33.41 | icedtea | Aaron_: is it in the same room as the box your own now? how are you currently connected to the internet? |
| 04:33.41 | zinx | elik_: adobe reader, i dunno. but evince/xpdf/whatever tend to do ok on that |
| 04:33.59 | mahmoud | can you tell me differnce |
| 04:34.09 | elik_ | \amethyst, once I install nsplugin, is there anything special I need to do to install flash other than dumping the plugin in mozilla plugin directory? |
| 04:34.09 | Aaron_ | icedtea by pppoe |
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| 04:34.27 | icedtea | Aaron_: so you're using dsl or dialup right now? |
| 04:34.33 | Aaron_ | dsl |
| 04:34.35 | zinx | elik_: you'll need nspluginwrapper (which seems to only be in lenny/sid) |
| 04:34.43 | Samonoske | How would I give my shell user access to a specific web folder..but nothing else? |
| 04:34.48 | \amethyst | elik_: probably; /usr/share/doc/nspluginwrapper/* should tell you more |
| 04:34.51 | zinx | elik_: after that, you have to install it with nspluginwrapper |
| 04:35.02 | zinx | elik_: the flashplayer-nonfree package automates that :x |
| 04:35.05 | icedtea | Aaron_: I mean is the debian box in the same room as your the box your on right now? |
| 04:35.12 | \amethyst | elik_: I don't use it myself (still use a 32-bit OS on my home machine) |
| 04:35.22 | Aaron_ | icedtea is a laptop |
| 04:35.36 | elik_ | \amethyst, ok, thx, gonna give it a try |
| 04:35.50 | elik_ | zinx, flashplugin-nonfree is on lenny |
| 04:35.52 | mahmoud | Cholito: can you tell me difference between theem |
| 04:35.54 | mahmoud | them |
| 04:35.55 | zinx | elik_: i'd probably manually install the .deb with dpkg -i (no forces) |
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| 04:36.07 | zinx | elik_: ah, i was looking on packages.debian.org, which didn't show it in lenny |
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| 04:36.21 | Cholito | mahmoud: the difference is that i386 is built with 32 bits, and amd64 is built with 64 bits (built "with" or "on"?) |
| 04:36.22 | icedtea | Aaron_: so is it connected wirelessly? |
| 04:36.23 | elik_ | zinx, oh, nm... it says it has no install candidate |
| 04:36.43 | mahmoud | ok |
| 04:36.46 | Aaron_ | icedtea nope i whish |
| 04:36.47 | elik_ | zinx, so I download the sid package and try to install manually? |
| 04:36.59 | zinx | elik_: that's what i'd do.. just don't use any forces |
| 04:37.05 | mahmoud | now i had intel core duo is it 32bit or 64 bit |
| 04:37.17 | icedtea | Aaron_: I mean I'm confused why you are trying to use dialup when you have a dsl connection, why not just share the dsl connection? |
| 04:37.19 | Aaron_ | im trying it to connect it |
| 04:37.19 | zinx | elik_: i use sid though, and know how to fix stuff when it breaks :/ |
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| 04:37.39 | zinx | mahmoud: core duo (i.e. not core 2 duo) is 32-bit |
| 04:37.52 | Aaron_ | icedtea i do not have a router right now |
| 04:37.54 | \amethyst | elik_: http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer has some instructions on how to install the sid version in lenny and still get updates |
| 04:38.05 | mahmoud | i mean core 2 duo |
| 04:38.20 | elik_ | \amethyst, sweet, thx |
| 04:38.20 | icedtea | Aaron_: oh ok. I'll help you with the cds then |
| 04:38.27 | mahmoud | look |
| 04:38.29 | mahmoud | CPU Information |
| 04:38.29 | mahmoud | Processor (CPU): Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz |
| 04:38.29 | mahmoud | Speed: 2,400.00 MHz |
| 04:38.30 | mahmoud | Cores: 2 |
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| 04:38.51 | elik_ | \amethyst, I had a nice setup where I could get sid source on my laptop |
| 04:39.01 | elik_ | mahmoud, sry, you can't paste long logs here |
| 04:39.06 | mahmoud | ok |
| 04:39.12 | elik_ | use pastebin |
| 04:39.15 | elik_ | !pastebin |
| 04:39.15 | dpkg | Please don't paste anything into the channel; use a paste site instead, like: http://paste.lisp.org, http://rafb.net/paste/, http://pastebin.ca/, http://picpaste.com for pics. --- Also ask me: <pastebin pipe> |
| 04:39.20 | Aaron_ | icedtea cool |
| 04:39.21 | Cholito | I would rather use the i386 instalation disk |
| 04:39.23 | Aaron_ | !aptcd |
| 04:39.23 | zinx | mahmoud: core 2 duos are all amd64 |
| 04:39.27 | Aaron_ | !APT-CDROM |
| 04:39.27 | dpkg | somebody said apt-cdrom was used to add new CDROMS to the apts list of available sources. Ask me about apt-cdrom_external |
| 04:39.50 | Cholito | dpkg I love you |
| 04:39.51 | dpkg | I hope you mean in the platonic sense :/ |
| 04:39.51 | elik_ | Anyone want some fun with some hardware issues, take a look at http://pastebin.ca/1170987 |
| 04:39.57 | mahmoud | amd64 is best to install in my computer is it true |
| 04:40.03 | icedtea | Aaron_: put the first debian disc in the drive |
| 04:40.26 | Cholito | mahmoud: I would rather use the i386 disk |
| 04:40.31 | icedtea | Aaron_: as root, type apt-cdrom add |
| 04:40.32 | zinx | mahmoud: best if you have >3G ram, if nothing else :/ |
| 04:40.46 | Cholito | mahmoud: later I would update the kernel for the 686 version |
| 04:41.01 | mahmoud | yes i had 3 g ram |
| 04:41.07 | Aaron_ | done |
| 04:41.11 | Cholito | zinx: I have 4gigs and using a 686-bigmem kernel ;) |
| 04:41.23 | zinx | Cholito: amd64 works much more sanely for that |
| 04:41.52 | Cholito | zinx: but the wifi drivers won't load with amd64 |
| 04:41.54 | mahmoud | is there any problems in amd64 version |
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| 04:42.07 | zinx | Cholito: ndiswrapper or something? mine work fine :/ |
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| 04:42.21 | FabParma | i downloaded -firefox-3.0.1.tar.bz2- how can i install on stable? |
| 04:42.30 | icedtea | whats that great command line calculator program that can do variables and what not? |
| 04:42.31 | zinx | FabParma: aptitude install iceweasel |
| 04:42.42 | zinx | oh wait, stable.. stable probably doesn't have 3.0.x yet |
| 04:42.48 | Aaron_ | done icedtea |
| 04:42.55 | Cholito | zinx: maybe because I used a 64bit kernel in a 32 bit system? |
| 04:42.58 | icedtea | Aaron_: did it do the first cd? |
| 04:43.17 | Cholito | FabParma: decompress, and run |
| 04:43.28 | FabParma | zinx: yes, id like to install w/o apt |
| 04:43.43 | zinx | Cholito: maybe, some of the userspace tools need 64-bit support.. i don't know which ones |
| 04:43.45 | mahmoud | zinx: is the stable vesion best or testing one |
| 04:43.49 | zinx | Cholito: to talk with a 64-bit kernel, that is |
| 04:44.10 | zinx | FabParma: nah, you really want to be installing stuff like that with dpkg or apt |
| 04:44.24 | Cholito | damn...now I'm thinking about installing again but a 64 bit system.... |
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| 04:44.41 | FabParma | excusmi for the question, to decompress is -tar -zx? |
| 04:44.43 | zinx | mahmoud: stable is too old for some people, testing has packaging problems sometimes |
| 04:44.49 | Cholito | FabParma: just dist-upgrade to lenny |
| 04:45.06 | dmoerner | FabParma, tar jxvf |
| 04:45.10 | dmoerner | for bz2 archive |
| 04:45.13 | mahmoud | i cant find testing version for amd64 |
| 04:45.15 | dmoerner | tar zxvf for gzip achive |
| 04:45.18 | FabParma | dmoerner: thanks |
| 04:45.36 | Strogg | hrmmm offtopic question, but is there an arm channel on freenode? |
| 04:46.14 | mahmoud | i cant find testing version for amd64 |
| 04:46.16 | \amethyst | mahmoud: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ has links |
| 04:46.50 | Strogg | actually.. I guess not really off topic, since my host system is going to be debian. I want to do some stuff with an ARM chip, but wanted to see how well it was supported by gcc before I got started. Anyone know where to find that sort of info? |
| 04:46.50 | \amethyst | mahmoud: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/lenny_di_beta2/amd64/iso-cd/ in particular |
| 04:47.13 | Strogg | I dug around on the arm toolchain page and wasn't able to find a list of supported processors |
| 04:48.09 | dmoerner | Strogg, what chipset? |
| 04:48.12 | elik_ | do you know how to specify a repository of installation for a package when this one has been added to preferences |
| 04:48.27 | dmoerner | elik_, aptitude install -t repo package |
| 04:48.39 | dmoerner | which will pull in dependencies from the repo |
| 04:48.44 | dmoerner | or to just get the package |
| 04:48.48 | dmoerner | aptitude install package/repo |
| 04:49.08 | mahmoud | it is 30 cd |
| 04:49.16 | mahmoud | for what all of that |
| 04:49.29 | dmoerner | !tell mahmoud -about netinst |
| 04:49.34 | Strogg | dmoerner: the at91sam7s64 |
| 04:50.13 | Strogg | dmoerner: it's Atmel's ARM7 chip |
| 04:50.21 | \amethyst | mahmoud: there's a netinst you can use in that directory; or just use the first CD |
| 04:50.37 | dmoerner | Strogg, ARM7 is supported by both arm and the armel port. armel is sort of rough right now though |
| 04:50.38 | \amethyst | mahmoud: everything else you can download from the net at install time |
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| 04:51.35 | Strogg | dmoerner: so.. is each ARM version a standard and gcc automatically supports any ARM7 chip? or are there variants between different chips as well? |
| 04:51.50 | mahmoud | did you mean that i can download 1 cd from 30 and use net to install any thing else |
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| 04:52.16 | dmoerner | Strogg, im not very familiar with arm but as I understand it each chip must be bootstrapped with assembly code which means the chips must be individually supported |
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| 04:53.04 | manu_hack | my X is killing me, it stops working from time to time, but all of a sudden it just dies and I can't do anything but reboot, no error in Xorg.0.log, syslog, what else could I check? |
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| 04:53.16 | dmoerner | Strogg, http://www.siwawi.arubi.uni-kl.de/avr_projects/arm_projects/ seems to have a toolchain or at least some stuff |
| 04:53.33 | Strogg | hrmmm |
| 04:53.43 | mahmoud | \amethyst: did you mean that i can download 1 cd from 30 and use net to install any thing else |
| 04:53.48 | dmoerner | Strogg, nm its windows-only i think |
| 04:53.51 | Strogg | I'm planning on opensourcing this board, so I wanna make sure it's easy to work with before I get too far into the design. heh |
| 04:54.05 | FabParma | id like to upgrade from stable to lenny. can you give the command please? |
| 04:54.16 | \amethyst | mahmoud: you can download either CD 1 or the netinst CD (it's near the bottom, and smaller than CD 1) |
| 04:54.40 | \amethyst | mahmoud: when you install you can select a debian mirror for updates---all the packages that aren't on the CD you got will be fetched from the net |
| 04:54.50 | FabParma | !lenny |
| 04:54.50 | dpkg | lenny is probably the codename for the next Debian release, currently testing. To upgrade to lenny, ask me about <etch->lenny>. Lenny is the binoculars. Lenny will be known as version 5.0 and the schedule is set for release in Sept 2008 (but ask me about <wwlr>). A <moving target>. <testing>, or <lenny status> |
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| 04:55.34 | \amethyst | mahmoud: CD 1 has the packages for a pretty standard basic installation. netinst only has enough packages to be able to fetch packages from the net |
| 04:56.06 | FabParma | !<etch->lenny> |
| 04:56.12 | \amethyst | mahmoud: netinst is smaller, but CD1 can be used to do a base install without network access, should you need to do that in the future |
| 04:56.19 | \amethyst | mahmoud: choose between them accordingly |
| 04:57.04 | FabParma | !etch->lenny |
| 04:57.45 | dmoerner | Strogg, i'm not so sure if this chip is supported. |
| 04:58.00 | dmoerner | i know something like this |
| 04:58.02 | \amethyst | dpkg: etch->lenny |
| 04:58.02 | dpkg | well, etch->lenny is First, see <apt-listbugs> and lenny release notes. Edit sources.list (# editor /etc/apt/sources.list), change all non-local mentions of 'etch' or 'stable' to 'lenny'. Save the file, `aptitude update` and `aptitude dist-upgrade`. Also consider subscribing to debian-devel-announce (ask me about <d-d-a>) to be aware of what developments are happening. |
| 04:58.05 | dmoerner | http://microcontrollershop.com/product_info.php?cPath=154_170_268&products_id=1662 is but thats arm9 |
| 04:58.16 | Strogg | hrmmm |
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| 05:01.22 | grendal_prime | ok sooo now im building packages.. |
| 05:01.23 | dmoerner | Strogg, did you try #debian-arm on oftc? |
| 05:02.44 | grendal_prime | 'postinst' im assuming would be any further configureation stuff i want to run...i would use bash for that (assuming that python was not on the box) |
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| 05:03.08 | Strogg | dmoerner: Aha. No I didn't, but I'll give that a shot |
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| 05:03.23 | FabParma | to install lenny its correct "apt dist-upgrade" or something missing? |
| 05:03.24 | Strogg | dmoerner: thanks... I was wondering where the arm people were hiding. :) |
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| 05:03.46 | grendal_prime | FabParma: did you put in source addresses for lenny? |
| 05:04.09 | FabParma | grendal_prime: no |
| 05:04.17 | grendal_prime | because...otherwise apt will have no idea what lenny is |
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| 05:04.52 | FabParma | i can find documetations about it |
| 05:04.57 | FabParma | cant |
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| 05:05.04 | grendal_prime | one way just change everything that says etch to read lenny. That would be in the /etc/apt/sources.lst |
| 05:05.17 | dummies_freelanc | hi i need know if the module subserial have parameter MAXSIZE for modem 3g |
| 05:05.19 | grendal_prime | then run apt-update |
| 05:05.35 | dummies_freelanc | for kernel 2.6.24 |
| 05:05.56 | sander_ | Anyone know a channel for asus eee or xandros linux? |
| 05:06.01 | grendal_prime | it will go and checkify out what all is on those servers. then after it has indexed all that dater, you can run dist-upgrade |
| 05:06.21 | grendal_prime | lenny is still testing right? |
| 05:06.21 | dmoerner | Strogg, most debian irc channels are on oftc but the main #debian never really made the migration |
| 05:06.30 | dmoerner | grendal_prime, yes, it just froze though |
| 05:06.35 | grendal_prime | cool |
| 05:07.11 | grendal_prime | i run kubuntu on this box. (it came preinstalled by dell.) pretty damn happy with it..but i still like straight up debian best. |
| 05:07.57 | Strogg | dmoerner: thanks.. I'll see what I can find out. will let you know if I do :) |
| 05:09.46 | faileas | oftc? |
| 05:10.58 | sander_ | Something is wrong with update.eeepc.asus.com I guess.. I cant install packages for my asus eee 900 |
| 05:11.20 | dmoerner | sander_, this is not #xandros |
| 05:11.22 | faileas | hmm |
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| 05:11.32 | faileas | isn't the eeepc running on xandros? |
| 05:11.36 | faileas | oops |
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| 05:12.31 | grendal_prime | FabParma: how ya doing? did i make any sence? |
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| 05:14.12 | FabParma | probabilly im too tired. mybe i retry later. im unable to find official documentation... thanks anyway |
| 05:14.26 | pewpow | if I install mplayer, will it install libdvdcss too? :P |
| 05:14.45 | Cholito | pewpow: apt-cache depends mplayer |
| 05:15.02 | pewpow | no just wondering, because of the legal shenanigans |
| 05:15.58 | Cholito | ohh :)) |
| 05:16.50 | FabParma | if i use "apt-get dist-upgrade testing" its not sufficient to get lenny? |
| 05:17.56 | Cholito | FabParma: just change every "stable" or "etch" word in you /etc/apt/sources.list to testing and you are good to go :) |
| 05:18.33 | FabParma | Cholito: i try right now, thanks |
| 05:19.11 | Cholito | you're welcome :) |
| 05:19.55 | pewpow | Cholito, can you play released DVDs on your machine? |
| 05:20.04 | pewpow | I've never tried :/ |
| 05:20.14 | pewpow | and don't have any DVDs right now |
| 05:21.00 | elik_ | I'm having issues with some hardware at startup, see http://pastebin.ca/1170987 for details |
| 05:21.51 | Cholito | released? |
| 05:22.11 | pewpow | like commercial DVDs that you'd get from Blockbuster |
| 05:22.18 | Cholito | yeah |
| 05:22.24 | pewpow | you can play them? |
| 05:22.33 | Cholito | althou I have to make a symlink first |
| 05:22.42 | pewpow | ah ok, doesn't matter |
| 05:22.43 | Cholito | and add the symlink at boot |
| 05:22.50 | newsense | libdvdcss2 |
| 05:22.55 | Cholito | yes I can play them :) |
| 05:23.06 | pewpow | newsense, yeah... |
| 05:23.40 | pewpow | this whole waging war against DeCSS didn't really get anyway :D |
| 05:23.47 | grendal_prime | FabParma: was my explanation to Yoda like or something? |
| 05:23.49 | pewpow | s/anyway/anywhere |
| 05:23.53 | grendal_prime | hehehe |
| 05:24.09 | manu_hack | guys, how can I know what the problem is when kernel won't boot? any log file one can find? |
| 05:24.34 | streuner | manu_hack: custom kernel? |
| 05:24.56 | elik_ | manu_hack, a lot of logs: /var/log |
| 05:25.12 | elik_ | manu_hack, kernel log might be the most interesting for you |
| 05:25.19 | manu_hack | streuner: not custon kernel, just 2.6.26-686 |
| 05:25.41 | streuner | manu_hack: and what kind of error (message)? |
| 05:25.49 | newsense | dmesg |
| 05:26.26 | manu_hack | streuner: it just stops at a line say ACPI doing some stuff |
| 05:26.55 | manu_hack | so the kern.log will contain the unsuccessful log as well? |
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| 05:27.15 | streuner | manu_hack: Did you look at BTS yet? |
| 05:27.18 | manu_hack | streuner: and it's not an error |
| 05:27.23 | manu_hack | what's BTS? |
| 05:27.32 | streuner | !bts |
| 05:27.32 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. Useful for unstable and testing: aptitude install apt-listbugs <apt-listchanges> . |
| 05:27.43 | streuner | manu_hack: /msg dpkg sid faq |
| 05:28.27 | manu_hack | okay, well will have a look |
| 05:28.50 | manu_hack | but I'm good with 2.6.25 at the moment, just X is driving me crazy |
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| 05:31.54 | grendal_prime | ok (and i know this is poor design but what can i say ...i was young and stupid) I have a box that mounts through a cisco vpn of some sort several cifs shares at a datacenter very far away. |
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| 05:33.07 | grendal_prime | these vpns have become flaky as of late and drop the vpn, when they come back up..guess what ..my mounts are no longer mounted. Is there a quick and easy way to rerun all the remote mounts in the fstab? |
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| 05:38.24 | \amethyst | grendal_prime: mount -a -t nfs |
| 05:38.50 | grendal_prime | they are cifs.....so mount -a -t cifs ? |
| 05:39.01 | \amethyst | grendal_prime: yes |
| 05:39.18 | grendal_prime | you da man...umm unless your not... |
| 05:39.36 | grendal_prime | in that case....ill buy you dinner if this works |
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| 05:40.58 | \amethyst | grendal_prime: note that it won't work for entries marked as 'noauto' |
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| 05:41.36 | grendal_prime | ya i dont think any of these are set like that..that is what is kinds frustrating |
| 05:42.00 | grendal_prime | now...that will work for one run right? |
| 05:42.11 | \amethyst | ? |
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| 05:43.13 | elik_ | I'm having issues with some hardware at startup, see http://pastebin.ca/1170987 if you think you can help |
| 05:43.19 | grendal_prime | well its not setting those to auto mount every time the vpn flakes out and cups back up... |
| 05:43.31 | grendal_prime | Its just mounting them all for this instance. |
| 05:43.55 | jaggz1 | why's linux kernel default CONFIG_HZ_250=y ? |
| 05:44.17 | rahul | because that's how linux compiles his kernel |
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| 05:44.19 | rahul | erm |
| 05:44.20 | rahul | linus |
| 05:44.33 | jaggz1 | " The 2.6 kernel started using 1000 by default and apparently this can cause issues with VMWare Server." |
| 05:45.28 | grendal_prime | esx as well? |
| 05:45.52 | FabParma | its been quite complicate, but now it seems that is downloading 800 packeges to upgrade to lenny. i cross the fingers |
| 05:46.45 | grendal_prime | wait a min.,..esx runs a redhat dist for its console.. |
| 05:47.25 | grendal_prime | jaggz1: are you running vmware server on a debian box? |
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| 05:48.52 | jaggz1 | no |
| 05:49.03 | jaggz1 | just debian (etch) |
| 05:50.06 | jaggz1 | it might not matter.. let's see what rosegarden does .. hopefully I can get midi working |
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| 05:52.36 | jaggz1 | cool.. timidity works to play .mid's now.. now to see what to do about rosegarden |
| 05:53.13 | tarzeau | jaggz1: do you use the eaw patches? |
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| 05:54.17 | icedtea | does anyone here know of a package that can read an outlook pst file? |
| 05:54.38 | tarzeau | icedtea: readpst - Converts Outlook PST files to mbox and others |
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| 05:54.58 | icedtea | tarzeau: sweet thx |
| 05:55.04 | acidslep | hi hi |
| 05:56.23 | acidslep | any bitchx users? i have a question or two.. |
| 05:56.37 | tarzeau | acidslep: #bitchx |
| 05:56.45 | acidslep | checked |
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| 05:58.02 | acidslep | anyways.. |
| 05:58.07 | pengwyn | gconf dilema (second install) apps randomly crash xterm, firefox, iceweasel, etc. Just about everything crashes. purging ~/.gconf seems to only help a small while. Log files show gconfd errors xml:readonly bla bla bla |
| 05:58.33 | pengwyn | no other errors in the logs, anyone know what's up? |
| 05:58.51 | pengwyn | gconfd is version 2.16.1 |
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| 05:59.44 | \amethyst | pengwyn: those warnings are expected |
| 06:00.17 | \amethyst | pengwyn: it just means some of the configuration is coming from the system's read-only files because they're not set in your per-user gconf registry |
| 06:00.56 | \amethyst | pengwyn: you don't have pango-graphite installed, do you? |
| 06:01.04 | pengwyn | lemme check |
| 06:01.18 | \amethyst | that's been known to cause random crashes (though it shouldn't affect xterm, since that doesn't use pango) |
| 06:01.26 | pengwyn | nope. |
| 06:01.43 | jaggz1 | couldn't type for a while |
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| 06:02.13 | grendal_prime | by the way \amethyst that worked great thinks |
| 06:02.15 | grendal_prime | thanks |
| 06:02.35 | \amethyst | pengwyn: do you get the GNOME bug-buddy dialog when iceweasel crashes |
| 06:02.36 | pengwyn | yeah it's crashing xterm, gterm, firefox3 (hacked install) iceweasel (stock install) kshisen etherape |
| 06:02.38 | \amethyst | ? |
| 06:02.49 | \amethyst | or when any of them crash? |
| 06:03.13 | pengwyn | no bug-buddy |
| 06:03.20 | pengwyn | just app disappears |
| 06:03.24 | jaggz1 | yeah, instralled the eawpats :) can't get noteedit to work though, while timidity foo.mid works |
| 06:03.26 | pengwyn | no log entry |
| 06:03.39 | pengwyn | it's real weird |
| 06:04.01 | jaggz1 | timidity -iA -B8,2 -Os is what i'm using.. and set noteedit to use timidity port 0 |
| 06:04.01 | \amethyst | pengwyn: and when you run them from the command line, no errors when it crashes other than the gconf readonly message? |
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| 06:04.04 | pengwyn | nothing in syslog, user, or messages |
| 06:04.32 | pengwyn | nope, nothing from fireing them off from a terminal, just the usual x warnings. |
| 06:05.22 | \amethyst | pengwyn: hm :( |
| 06:05.40 | pengwyn | I am bout ready to toss the computer into the street ;o) |
| 06:06.30 | \amethyst | pengwyn: and the program is terminating, it's not just that the window is disappearing? |
| 06:06.56 | pengwyn | yeah process is gone, no pid's sitting in ps aux | grep or top -c |
| 06:07.45 | pengwyn | also all the partitions are rw. I made sure of that also |
| 06:07.50 | \amethyst | pengwyn: maybe try something like strace -o iw.trace iceweasel |
| 06:07.57 | sander_ | How do I use netcat to test if my network is working? |
| 06:08.05 | grendal_prime | night guys |
| 06:08.10 | \amethyst | pengwyn: then when it crashes check the end of the iw.trace to see if it mentions a signal or anything |
| 06:08.12 | acidslep | night |
| 06:08.20 | acidslep | nc google.com |
| 06:08.22 | sander_ | Like.. serverside: netcat -l ip port clientside: netcat ip port ? |
| 06:08.25 | \amethyst | pengwyn: it will be a huge trace, though |
| 06:08.27 | sander_ | BUt it dosnt work.. |
| 06:08.28 | icedtea | tarzeau: is there one that can read 2003 pst files? |
| 06:09.08 | acidslep | why dont you just ping the target host? |
| 06:09.18 | pengwyn | I did get one signal (not sure if I crashed the system though) |
| 06:09.58 | tarzeau | icedtea: maybe check the homepage of readpst and ask its authors? |
| 06:10.16 | pengwyn | gconfd (username-3077): Received signal 11, dumping core. Please report a GConf bug. |
| 06:10.31 | pengwyn | username == account name |
| 06:10.40 | tarzeau | icedtea: you use the stable version? |
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| 06:11.48 | icedtea | tarzeau: I'm on testing, trying to find the homepage |
| 06:12.03 | pengwyn | also I don't have gconf-sanity-checkXX |
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| 06:12.09 | icedtea | v0.5.3 |
| 06:12.11 | tarzeau | icedtea: testing has the latest version |
| 06:12.18 | icedtea | well crap |
| 06:12.48 | \amethyst | pengwyn: hm |
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| 06:12.57 | icedtea | I'm going to have to reboot to look for some mail |
| 06:13.06 | pengwyn | maybe I should just reformat .. third time is the charm |
| 06:13.21 | mrglinux | I instealled vncserver and tightvncserver and run it but I can not connect to my server with vncviewer and I check my open port I see 5901/tcp open vnc-1 and 6001/tcp open X11:1 what's wrong ? |
| 06:13.40 | pengwyn | there's hardly any settings to backup at this point /.mozilla some other custom crap. |
| 06:14.18 | pengwyn | It's so anoying cause it works fine then suddenly whatever app, just disappears |
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| 06:14.40 | pengwyn | it can work fine for 12 + hours, then boom |
| 06:14.51 | jaggz1 | mrg, both on same LAN? |
| 06:15.00 | jaggz1 | both linux debian xxx? |
| 06:15.29 | pengwyn | thanks \amethyst for your suggestions! seriously. I'll sort this nonsense. |
| 06:15.54 | pengwyn | damn Gconf ain't gonna get the best of me. |
| 06:16.13 | pengwyn | it's only one workstation so maybe the hardware is screwed |
| 06:16.40 | \amethyst | pengwyn: it's worth filing a bug... unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a libgconf2-dbg package, so getting a good crash trace will be difficult |
| 06:17.01 | \amethyst | pengwyn: though I guess it could be a corrupted library or something |
| 06:17.17 | mrglinux |  jaggz1: no my server is my vps |
| 06:17.23 | mrglinux |  jaggz1: not lan |
| 06:17.53 | pengwyn | there you go you just helped, I'll reinstall gconf*.* first before formating |
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| 06:18.28 | \amethyst | pengwyn: you might also try moving your .gconf directory out of the way |
| 06:18.44 | \amethyst | pengwyn: also maybe try reinstalling the packages gconf depends on, too |
| 06:18.47 | pengwyn | done that, purged it over and over, reboot, purge etc. |
| 06:19.17 | \amethyst | pengwyn: you can use debsums to check the integrity of the installed files from a package |
| 06:19.43 | pengwyn | yeah when I was installing I noticed security.debian.org was down |
| 06:19.56 | pengwyn | that's why it took two installs |
| 06:20.07 | pengwyn | it was worse the first time o) |
| 06:20.30 | pengwyn | I ain't the type that goes for reinstalls. but screw this workstation |
| 06:20.46 | \amethyst | pengwyn: have you tried memtest? |
| 06:20.51 | pengwyn | 2 hours vs. 48+ hours troubleshooting |
| 06:20.58 | \amethyst | memtest86 or memtest86+ that is |
| 06:21.07 | pengwyn | I will try it now. I did just get new ram |
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| 06:23.56 | jaggz1 | rosegarden and noteedit only make static sounds for each note.. soft "shh shh shh shh shh shh" |
| 06:24.14 | elik_ | What packages should I install for graphic acceleration, xmoto is utterly slow :D |
| 06:25.23 | elik_ | I have a nvidia card, but I didn't install any driver for that |
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| 06:26.26 | mrglinux | no idea? |
| 06:26.37 | pengwyn | ack synaptic crashed and new gconfd errors in the log |
| 06:27.14 | Supaplex | !ideas |
| 06:27.14 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a sack full of rutabagas, a little WD-40, and a handful of rabid kittens. And keep the NSA off my back for the next few minutes! |
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| 06:30.53 | kailiey | I've got a weird issue. I've got a new drive. Installed etch. Works great. Plug in old drive. On next boot, old install boots. I go into Bios, i change drive priority... save, reboot... Old install still boots. Anyone know why this is? |
| 06:31.19 | mrglinux | I installed x11vnc also |
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| 06:33.26 | mrglinux | Unable to connect to VNC server |
| 06:33.52 | mrglinux | I installed all of thinks on my vps but I could not coonect to vncserver on my vps |
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| 06:38.50 | phillipsjk | kailiey: linux (and BSD) ignore BIOS tricks like that. You can either physically move the drive, or (I heard) you can edit the mtab to access the drive by ID. |
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| 06:40.11 | ^shark_ | hi guys I have been googling all nite can't find what is wrong with my relay, this is what I am seeing >> http://pastebin.ca/1171093 |
| 06:40.17 | pengwyn | \amethyst: I rebooted to get synaptic to run stable for a minute. When replacing gconf*.* + libs it errored with something about not writing to /var/lib/gconf SO I deleted /var/lib/gconf then ran synaptic replacing everything again two more times, no errors showed up, I reboot. Fingers crossed. Thanks for you help if it continues I will just format. |
| 06:40.31 | kailiey | phillipsjk, oh son of a @#$ :) Thanks phillipsjk. Makes total sense |
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| 06:43.53 | lnxnubie | .. |
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| 06:44.57 | lnxnubie | Flips a coin: HEADS |
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| 06:45.41 | xingu | ^shark_: looks like you're relaying mail to domain.com/dotsterhost.com and they're refusing it; this may be because you're greeting them as "root@edbm01" rather than some smtp-wise resolvable address |
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| 06:46.28 | xingu | ^shark_: a packet capture of the flow between you and 66.11.233.1 would probably reveal the problem |
| 06:47.08 | ^shark_ | xingu: ok let me research more about this, thanks a lot for the info. |
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| 06:49.19 | xingu | ^shark_: in fact lines 11,13 show mail bounced due to user unknown; this makes it more likely that you have an account problem with domain.com/dotsterhost.com |
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| 06:51.07 | mrglinux | why I can not connect to vncserver ?? I get all Unable to connect to VNC server |
| 06:51.15 | xingu | !ops privmsg spam from *@62.112.110.32 |
| 06:51.15 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: xingu complains about: privmsg spam from *@62.112.110.32 |
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| 06:53.32 | azeem | xingu: huh, what nick is that? |
| 06:53.40 | pengwyn | carbomb? |
| 06:53.49 | pengwyn | friggin /msg spammer |
| 06:53.58 | azeem | there's nobody called carbomb in this chan |
| 06:53.58 | pengwyn | it was car something |
| 06:54.06 | pengwyn | no, but outside |
| 06:54.14 | azeem | so what should we do about that? |
| 06:54.15 | pengwyn | I got the spam |
| 06:54.16 | xingu | azeem: they're rotating their /nick |
| 06:54.34 | jaggz1 | anyone use timidity as a server? |
| 06:54.37 | pengwyn | something about tasty treats |
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| 06:54.59 | liable | i want tasty treats! |
| 06:55.02 | azeem | xingu: *shrug* then |
| 06:55.06 | pengwyn | lol |
| 06:55.14 | icedtea | doggy treats? |
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| 06:55.29 | pengwyn | icedtea: raugh? |
| 06:55.37 | xingu | hands liable a chocolate laxative covered donut |
| 06:56.00 | icedtea | pengwyn: indeed |
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| 06:57.37 | ^shark_ | xingu: from the little research I have done, looks like I have a DNS problem, this machine from where the mail is coming from is not on my domain -- midcomafrica.com, could this also cause the problem? |
| 06:57.53 | ^shark_ | xingu: please also take a look at this >> http://pastebin.ca/1171111 |
| 06:58.35 | pengwyn | Interesting how africa comes from Dubai |
| 06:58.55 | pengwyn | but then I was never good at geography |
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| 07:00.28 | mrglinux | http://phpfi.com/343320 it is my log for VNCSERVER doesn't work |
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| 07:04.00 | ^shark_ | pengwyn: never mind about the whois data |
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| 07:05.46 | milligan_ | crontab -e -> add the following: * * * * * /milligan/run.sh -> the script doesn't seem to be executed. Any ideas why ? |
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| 07:07.54 | Tapout | after you've added a drive, and partitioned it. Now I want to install xfs. Is there a way to get a GUI like the installer up? or should I just mkfs.xfs and all those steps myself? |
| 07:08.34 | ^shark_ | I think the only temporary solution to this is to make mail8.domain.com an open relay server,isn't it? another one is to find proper DNS records for this server trying to send mail in the midcomafrica.com domain space. |
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| 07:11.57 | jaggz1 | what's the xen for in linux-image-2.6.25-2-xen-686 ? |
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| 07:13.26 | tralala | jaggz1, /msg dpkg xen |
| 07:14.36 | jaggz1 | ah.. so it is that |
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| 07:17.41 | sander_ | Hi.. How can I get a bluetooth headset to work? |
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| 07:20.32 | terbo | sander - you would at least need to have bluez installed and be able to pair with other devices. |
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| 07:23.51 | AbsintheSyringe | it used to work before, now after suspend I can't see any font or anything, so I have to restart X in order to see what's on my screen, is there a solution for that? debian lenny lenovo x300 |
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| 07:25.25 | dmoerner | AbsintheSyringe, try suspending from an open terminal |
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| 07:25.31 | dmoerner | and then run "vbetool" in that terminal |
| 07:25.51 | Mushbills | would I use the 686 kernel for Intel atom? |
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| 07:25.57 | dmoerner | yes |
| 07:26.15 | Mushbills | dmoerner, that yes is for me? |
| 07:26.35 | AbsintheSyringe | dmoerner, the problem is that I won't be able to run vbetool since I can't see what I'm typing after suspend |
| 07:26.46 | dmoerner | Mushbills, yes sorry i was eating so i was too lazy to type out the M in your name to tab complete :) |
| 07:26.54 | dmoerner | AbsintheSyringe, you don't have to see what you're typing to type |
| 07:27.03 | Mushbills | dmoerner, thanks! |
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| 07:28.21 | AbsintheSyringe | dmoerner, true, let me see how that works for me |
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| 07:32.47 | newbie__ | hello |
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| 07:33.30 | AbsintheSyringe | dmoerner, that helped, thanks a lot! Now I can suspend it however I want and display turns right, right away *thumbs up |
| 07:33.48 | newbie__ | i have a problem trying to acess /dev/hda5. i just acess it as root =/ what should i do to be able to acess as normal user? |
| 07:33.56 | dmoerner | AbsintheSyringe, good |
| 07:33.59 | dmoerner | !pmount |
| 07:34.00 | dpkg | well, pmount is "policy mount", an application to make it easier to (un)mount removable media such as USB flash memory sticks. e.g. as normal user, "pmount sda1" mounts it at /media/sda1. no superuser. no need to create a mount point. nb you'll need to be in the plugdev group (but you'll know that from /usr/share/doc/pmount). |
| 07:34.31 | newbie__ | alright, thx |
| 07:34.32 | proem_ | newbie__, where is /dev/hda5 mounted? |
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| 07:34.47 | newbie__ | proem_: windows |
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| 07:35.21 | proem_ | newbie__, pardon? |
| 07:35.31 | newbie__ | proem_: i already change /etc/fstab but i still can't acess it |
| 07:36.06 | newbie__ | proem_: i have windows and linux in the same PC, all my files are in a windows (ntfs) partition |
| 07:36.11 | proem_ | newbie__, you need to change the permissions on whatever directory /dev/hda5 is mounted to. |
| 07:36.43 | jaggz1 | thanks |
| 07:36.45 | jaggz1 | :) |
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| 07:36.51 | OpenTokix | or mount with -o uid=,gid= options |
| 07:36.58 | OpenTokix | if its fat32 or ntfs |
| 07:37.19 | newbie__ | proem_: u know, i'm still learning linux i don't know much stuff |
| 07:37.52 | proem_ | newbie__, the best thing to do would be to create a 'windows' group, then change the perms on the directory to be chmod 775, chown :windows |
| 07:37.58 | newbie__ | proem_: should i change it on my /etc/fstab file? or just going to the properties of the folder and making the permission? |
| 07:38.16 | newbie__ | proem_: hum... and how do i do this? |
| 07:38.23 | proem_ | newbie__, then simply add your users to the windows group so they can gain access. |
| 07:39.21 | proem_ | newbie__, just chown/ chmod the directory /dev/hda5 is mounted on. |
| 07:39.33 | newbie__ | proem_: ok |
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| 07:41.10 | newbie__ | proem_: i did chown user /mnt/windows and chmod 775 /mnt/windows and it didn't work |
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| 07:42.00 | ganes | i want to join in a group kernel & driver , HOW TO? |
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| 07:42.26 | proem_ | newbie__, did you add the windows group? and then add your users to this group? |
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| 07:43.01 | newbie__ | proem_: it's not a group, it's a folder that i mounted /dev/hda5 in |
| 07:43.15 | tralala | ganes, /msg dpkg nmg |
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| 07:43.29 | newbie__ | proem_: to "add a group" i should go to the properties of the folder? |
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| 07:44.38 | proem_ | newbie__, Im aware of that. Like I said, its best to add a windows 'group' to the system, then chown the dir to :windows then chmod the dir to 775 then add any users requiring access to the windows group. |
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| 07:45.38 | proem_ | newbie__, no, the command is (as root) 'addgroup windows' |
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| 07:49.45 | newbie__ | proem_: i did the command 'addgroup windows' |
| 07:49.55 | newbie__ | proem_: now what? |
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| 08:03.25 | soulchild | Hi all, how do I deactivate the "resume from swap"-check at boot? |
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| 08:18.12 | _cas | hi. anyone used the lenny beta2 installer? |
| 08:18.38 | _cas | i'm having trouble using it on an asus m3n78-eh motherboard with a pair of sata drives. |
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| 08:27.03 | OpenTokix | _cas: trying to raid them in etch but they show up as individual drives? |
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| 08:36.04 | tarzeau | debian birthday soon |
| 08:36.37 | liable | do i get presents? |
| 08:36.50 | pengwyn | new hardware? |
| 08:36.57 | pengwyn | j/k o) |
| 08:37.32 | ShishKabab | Hello. What can I do if Aptitude wants to delete a bunch of packages when I try to make some changes (installing/removing any package)? |
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| 08:38.06 | liable | paste the output to a pastebot |
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| 08:38.38 | moshii | ShishKabab: or tell it not to remove them? = |
| 08:39.13 | pengwyn | August 16th |
| 08:39.32 | ShishKabab | http://pastebin.com/d7978b131 |
| 08:40.07 | moshii | wonders if ian is still with deb |
| 08:40.32 | liable | ShishKabab: what about when you do an upgrade? you still get that error? |
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| 08:41.58 | ShishKabab | liable: Hehe. I didn't upgrade for long time (about two weeks) and don't have enough bandwidth available to do an upgrade. |
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| 08:42.23 | moshii | ShishKabab: did you install those packages with apt-get? |
| 08:42.40 | liable | ShishKabab: you dont have to actually do it, just what it outputs when you try |
| 08:43.00 | ShishKabab | moshii: No. I always use Aptitude |
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| 08:43.59 | ShishKabab | liable: It still wants to remove them when I try to do an upgrade |
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| 08:44.43 | liable | ok, so how did it get to this state? |
| 08:46.00 | ShishKabab | I tried to remove Exim4 (which turned out to be a bad idea, so I cancelled it) and from there it wants to do this. |
| 08:46.17 | LaTeXpert | After the power supply suddenly went off the system boot ends with '/sbin/init: Permission denied...Kernel panic -- not syncing...'. Any suggestions? |
| 08:46.43 | liable | ShishKabab: can you paste your aptitude log? |
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| 08:46.56 | tralala | LaTeXpert, paste the whole log |
| 08:47.14 | liable | bit hard when you have a kernel panic |
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| 08:47.35 | tralala | liable, I'm not after user friendliness ;) |
| 08:47.49 | ShishKabab | liable: /var/log/aptitude? |
| 08:47.49 | liable | obviously :P |
| 08:47.54 | liable | ShishKabab: yeah |
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| 08:47.58 | moshii | not to hard if he has a serial console.. |
| 08:48.05 | bmh | i'm trying to get my Xircom RBE-100 to work and having some issues; |
| 08:48.17 | bmh | it gets picked up by debian, ifconfig shows it, dhcpd even gives it an ip address |
| 08:48.20 | tralala | ShishKabab, start aptitude interactively, press g and paste the screen you see |
| 08:48.23 | bmh | but i can't ping in our out with it |
| 08:48.28 | bmh | even on local network |
| 08:48.29 | moshii | LaTeXpert: try init=/bin/sh as a kernel option.. |
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| 08:48.44 | bmh | any ideas? |
| 08:48.56 | moshii | LaTeXpert: if you can at least get it to a shell you can see what's broked.. |
| 08:49.04 | bmh | i get Destination Host Unreachable when i ping |
| 08:49.13 | moshii | LaTeXpert: or use the rescue mode of a d-i cd I suppose.. |
| 08:49.21 | ShishKabab | http://pastebin.com/d2ed2014f |
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| 08:51.33 | moshii | bmh: do you have a firewall script running? |
| 08:51.34 | abchirk | I want to block ssh from internet.. iptables -A INPUT ssh --dport 22 -J DROP, but what to add for internet? local ssh has to work |
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| 08:51.59 | moshii | abchirk: if it's just from the tinterweb you should add a source |
| 08:52.08 | bmh | moshii, i dont belive so, this is just a vanilla debian install afaik |
| 08:52.12 | bmh | how can i check? |
| 08:52.15 | ShishKabab | tralala: I can't copy the interactive Aptitude screen because Aptitude somehow responds to my mouse |
| 08:52.22 | moshii | bmh: iptables --flush IIRC |
| 08:52.27 | bmh | just noticed, the link light blinks when the pings go out.. |
| 08:52.45 | moshii | bmh: if you install/run tcpdump you will find it easier to debug |
| 08:52.46 | abchirk | moshii thats what I mean.. what to add for internetsource? or dropping all ssh traffic and only allow ssh from localnetwork? |
| 08:52.53 | bmh | that just gave me |
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| 08:53.03 | liable | ShishKabab: well, that wasnt very usefull |
| 08:53.05 | bmh | ip_tables: (C) 2000-2006 Netfilter Core Team |
| 08:53.21 | moshii | abchirk: have a rule that drops all ssh traffic, and have an accept rule with your network as the source |
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| 08:53.27 | bmh | hmm, how to install tcpdump without a net connection... :) |
| 08:53.30 | abchirk | ok |
| 08:53.51 | ShishKabab | liable: I did send the correct log I hope? |
| 08:53.53 | moshii | abchirk: I suggest firehol instead of iptables directly though :) |
| 08:53.54 | LaTeXpert | moshii, I tried to enter from the rescue mode of the installation CD but it didnt help |
| 08:54.08 | moshii | LaTeXpert: did you try using sh as init? |
| 08:54.23 | moshii | LaTeXpert: also what did rescue mode have to say? |
| 08:54.27 | LaTeXpert | moshii, no. Where should I specify it? |
| 08:54.37 | moshii | LaTeXpert: grub or lilo? |
| 08:54.44 | LaTeXpert | moshii, grub |
| 08:55.39 | liable | ShishKabab: yep, but appears the 10th is the last date in it |
| 08:55.44 | moshii | LaTeXpert: when the menu comes up, hit e for edit I think.. select the line that has the kernel options and add init=/bin/sh .. but if rescue mode couldn't chroot into it then it's probably pretty broken |
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| 08:56.24 | moshii | bmh: download the package on the machine you're using and copy over with a usb drive or something |
| 08:56.29 | LaTeXpert | moshii, what should i do after that? |
| 08:56.44 | moshii | LaTeXpert: boot it and see if you get into a shell |
| 08:56.56 | ShishKabab | liable: Yes. I didn't install anything after that. |
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| 08:57.16 | liable | ShishKabab: see if dpkg log is more helpfull |
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| 08:57.45 | bmh | moshii, yeah i'll have to |
| 08:57.57 | kiwizz | Anyone using latest stable debian and cyrus come across this issue ?> "TLS engine: cannot load CA data" |
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| 08:58.03 | bmh | which files determine the network set up? |
| 08:58.11 | moshii | kiwizz: check the BTS |
| 08:58.48 | dusty_ | Hey guys, how can I stop iptables in debian logging to every log file, it seems to log to messages and syslog, i've added a line in syslog.conf like so: kern.* /var/log/firewall.log which successfully logs my firewall stuff, but also syslog and messages gets filled up as well and thats not needed and makes for looking at those log files alot harder (more cluttered) how can I fix that ? |
| 08:58.56 | LaTeXpert | moshii, it says 'unrecognized command' in responce to 'init=/bin/sh' |
| 08:58.57 | ShishKabab | http://pastebin.com/m7c0631c |
| 08:58.59 | Sling | bmh : /etc/network/interfaces contains some settings |
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| 08:59.18 | moshii | LaTeXpert: what happened when you tried rescue mode? |
| 08:59.30 | bmh | Sling, thanks just found that. how can i force those changes to take effect without rebooting? |
| 08:59.31 | moshii | DimmuR: you could use something like ulog |
| 08:59.48 | moshii | DimmuR: sorry that was for dusty_ |
| 08:59.58 | Sling | bmh: putting the interface down and up again should load those settings |
| 09:00.11 | Sling | ifdown <if>;ifup <if> |
| 09:00.14 | dusty_ | moshii, what is ulog ? |
| 09:00.18 | bmh | cool thanks |
| 09:00.25 | trumpen | is it possible to fsck the root partition of server via ssh? |
| 09:00.39 | LaTeXpert | moshii, it said the shell was found on your root partition but its execution failed |
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| 09:00.59 | OpenTokix | trumpen: yes and no, you can run it - but you can't fix anything without breaking shit |
| 09:01.13 | ShishKabab | liable: Ah. I forgot: I also used Synaptic to install some packages. |
| 09:01.14 | LaTeXpert | moshii, but i am not sure it's the same that you're suggesting. The name of what it says was my root partition was very odd. |
| 09:01.25 | wishkah | hello, I want to recompile the 2.6.18-6 debian kernel with minor changes to the configuration (1000 hz and some preempt stuff for desktop). is there a way to use fakeroot for this? |
| 09:01.37 | moshii | LaTeXpert: like /dev/mapper/something? |
| 09:01.37 | liable | ShishKabab: thats probably why then |
| 09:01.51 | kiwizz | moshii: No results from the BTS |
| 09:02.03 | LaTeXpert | moshii, like /dev/host0/bus0/.../target |
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| 09:02.23 | liable | why do you still have devfs nodes? |
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| 09:03.24 | ShishKabab | liable: Aha... I thought Synaptic was safe. |
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| 09:03.43 | moshii | LaTeXpert: you should be able to fsck the fs from the di cd.. ctrl-alt f1, f2, find a VT that says press enter for a shell |
| 09:03.53 | trumpen | OpenTokix, thanks. So, is it safe to run e2fck -n -c /dev/sdax where sdax is mounted ro? |
| 09:03.56 | liable | ShishKabab: synaptic uses apt-get and that confuses aptitudes database |
| 09:04.06 | moshii | kiwizz: if you're sure it's not a cock-up on your end you should report it as a bug |
| 09:04.13 | LaTeXpert | moshii, what is the 'di cd' after all? :) |
| 09:04.46 | trumpen | *e2fsck |
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| 09:04.58 | moshii | LaTeXpert: init on your root fs is busted, so that's why I said try init=/bin/sh.. but that seems busted too |
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| 09:05.27 | Ergo^ | hello, i wanted to ask a bit about debian security |
| 09:05.28 | moshii | LaTeXpert: so you'll have to work from the di cd or some other working system |
| 09:05.33 | moshii | !ask |
| 09:05.33 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 09:05.47 | ShishKabab | liable: Aha... I always use Synaptic when I just want to upgrade a few packages or want to see the packages contents. So, is there anyway to 'unmess' up Aptitudes DB? |
| 09:05.49 | Ergo^ | moshii: sorry i was typing the question aredy lol :P |
| 09:05.59 | cedric3 | hi i have a probleme i try to mount a share nfs with acl but when i try i have this error Unsupported nfs mount option: acl i am on debian etch thanks for your help |
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| 09:06.27 | moshii | ShishKabab: use the aptitude curses ui and hit = on all the packages it wants to dump |
| 09:06.35 | LaTeXpert | moshii, I have knoppix 3.7 but it seems too old and it doesn't have a proper fsck version to check an ext3 partion... |
| 09:06.40 | liable | ShishKabab: theres a file you can delete but i forget which. uninstalling and reinstalling it fixes it though. theres probably a better way though. |
| 09:07.16 | moshii | LaTeXpert: the d-i cd should have fsck.ext3 on it |
| 09:07.22 | beardy | LaTeXpert: Try SystemRescueCD if you want something newer, that's not too big to download, or something else. |
| 09:07.30 | ShishKabab | liable: Now entering Aptitude |
| 09:07.41 | liable | no, removing aptitude |
| 09:07.55 | moshii | beardy: d-i should have all the tools he needs |
| 09:08.01 | beardy | If someone knows of a Debian based one, as good as sysresccd, let me know. |
| 09:08.09 | liable | you'll lose all your auto marked data and stuff though |
| 09:08.15 | beardy | moshii: Hopefully. Didn't check what he needed exactly. |
| 09:08.32 | LaTeXpert | moshii, d-i stands for 'debian installation'. I have it, too. |
| 09:08.41 | LaTeXpert | moshii, it was a question. :) |
| 09:08.52 | Ergo^ | i want to get a ded server, and im not a sysadmin, rather web developer, so im not sure how secure is debian out of the box, ie. if assuming i will configure apache,php stuff securly i could operate without a big risk of getting hacked myself ? |
| 09:08.55 | cedric3 | nobody have any idea please? |
| 09:09.30 | moshii | Ergo^: get a managed server then |
| 09:09.33 | ShishKabab | liable: It worked! |
| 09:10.00 | liable | 'course :P |
| 09:10.06 | beardy | Ergo^: Debian is very secure by default, it has sane defaults "out of the box". Then it depends what you make with your configurations. |
| 09:10.10 | Ergo^ | moshii: managed services assume i wont have root access, and i will need one, besides all managed server have control panels on them, and i dont want that |
| 09:10.30 | moshii | Ergo^: you can get managed servers and still have root access |
| 09:10.46 | beardy | Ergo^: Maybe try to find a nice service with some handholding if necessarey, and good backups, and if need be reinstall service. |
| 09:10.53 | ShishKabab | liable: Thank you very much! Just one more question: is there any way to see a packages contents through Aptitude? |
| 09:11.09 | moshii | Ergo^: but if you don't want to deal with security patches and security admin, you don't want an umanaged machine |
| 09:11.13 | liable | ShishKabab: dont think so |
| 09:11.20 | Ergo^ | moshii: can you pm me some resonable us/eu companies that would provide services like that ? |
| 09:11.45 | Ergo^ | moshii: i was hoping that i could get away with apt-get upgrade and apt-get update once in a while ;-) |
| 09:11.53 | moshii | I'm not sure if you're allowed to post "ads" here.. |
| 09:12.06 | beardy | Ask him if he accepts a /msg. |
| 09:12.11 | ShishKabab | liable: Ok... Then I'll just use Synaptic for that. Thank for the help! I'll now get back to work. |
| 09:12.12 | Ergo^ | moshii: thats why i asked to pm me |
| 09:12.14 | Ergo^ | :] |
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| 09:12.26 | moshii | ah, didn't read the pm bit |
| 09:12.51 | Ergo^ | just talked with a sales rep that said they only install ubuntu and they probably cant install debian so im kinda lost ;-) |
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| 09:15.52 | LaTeXpert | moshii, I typed 'rescue init=/bin/sh' and it said 'can't access tty: job control turned off'...Should it mean something? |
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| 09:16.56 | Tapout | if my raid stripe is set to 4MB, and I setup my blocks for mkfs.xfs to 8MB, will that cause problems? |
| 09:17.03 | moshii | LaTeXpert: you don't need to do that if you're booting from the d-i cd. |
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| 09:17.11 | Tapout | or do stripe gotta be same as blocksize |
| 09:17.24 | LaTeXpert | moshii, then what should i do? |
| 09:17.32 | moshii | LaTeXpert: boot the d-i cd in rescue mode, switch to VT2 and you should be able to get a shell and fsck your fs |
| 09:18.12 | LaTeXpert | moshii, pressing ctrl-alt f1,f2 doesnt change anything |
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| 09:18.57 | LaTeXpert | moshii, that's the log http://pastebin.com/m522d98af |
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| 09:19.47 | beardy | LaTeXpert: Just boot it like normal, switch vt, Alt-F2 (Ctrl-Alt-F2 should work there too of course, as usual, but not entirely sure.) |
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| 09:20.17 | beardy | Ehm.. sorry, rescue mode, like moshii said, but anyway.. |
| 09:20.19 | bmh | ok so i've tried another PCMCIA card which i KNOW works |
| 09:20.28 | bmh | dmesg shows it and calls it eth0 |
| 09:20.33 | bmh | but when i do ifconfig eth0 up |
| 09:20.40 | bmh | it says |
| 09:20.42 | moshii | bmh: what chipset is the nic you're trying to us? |
| 09:20.49 | bmh | eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device |
| 09:20.57 | bmh | this one is a pcnet_cs |
| 09:21.09 | bmh | NE2000 Compatible |
| 09:21.12 | moshii | LaTeXpert: you might have to do a few stages of the rescue mode before it spawns the gettys |
| 09:21.19 | bmh | it works in my other laptop (minutes ago) |
| 09:21.30 | moshii | bmh: when you insert it does dmesg say anything? |
| 09:21.52 | LaTeXpert | moshii, okay. Now the shell says fsck not found |
| 09:22.12 | bmh | moshii, nope, and now the link lights aren't coming back on |
| 09:22.24 | bmh | do i need some daemon running to pick this up? |
| 09:23.59 | moshii | bmh: there was back in the day pcmcia_cs or something, but I don't know if that's been replaced by some part of hotplug |
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| 09:24.17 | bmh | hmm, can you suggest anything? |
| 09:24.37 | bmh | afaik, i didnt do anything different on the other machine, for which this card works |
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| 09:25.08 | bmh | its a pretty old laptop and i'm crossing my fingers that there's no hardware fault that's the issue |
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| 09:26.11 | bmh | it's detecting this and the other card (in a way), but it's not actually "working" with them |
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| 09:26.59 | moshii | bmh: maybe that card is cardbus (pci) and the machine only supports pcmcia (isa) ? |
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| 09:27.53 | bmh | hmm, good thought. the first card i was trying was cardbus, but i'm pretty certain this one is just pcmcia |
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| 09:28.10 | bmh | it too is pretty old; and i bought it back in the day and knew that it was pretty well supported |
| 09:28.35 | bmh | plus, this laptop is newer than the other laptop in which this card works in |
| 09:28.36 | bmh | about to try a live cd and see if that likes it |
| 09:29.08 | moshii | bmh: when you plug it in you should get some output in dmesg. if not your hardware doesn't like it or you're missing the daemon to handle the slot events |
| 09:29.35 | bmh | well, when i have it inserted when debian is booting up, it detects it and calls it eth0 |
| 09:29.43 | bmh | but then once i log in, ifconfig doesnt show it |
| 09:30.20 | moshii | bmh: can you paste your dmesg output somewhere? |
| 09:30.42 | bmh | all of it, or just the eth0 line? |
| 09:31.25 | bmh | well, i'm just booting into the slax livecd, i'll see how that fares |
| 09:31.32 | bmh | if not, will paste the dmesg |
| 09:31.59 | bmh | ok, slax is working with this card; i can ping google from it |
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| 09:32.05 | bmh | so its something to do with debian |
| 09:32.18 | bmh | *card and machine |
| 09:32.30 | moshii | bmh: apt-cache search pcmcia .. there should be a support package |
| 09:32.40 | bmh | phew, at least its not a hardware thing. i quite like this old laptop :) |
| 09:32.50 | bmh | cool, will check it out |
| 09:34.21 | moshii | bmh: you said another card works? |
| 09:34.41 | bmh | basically, i have two laptops and two cards |
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| 09:35.04 | moshii | bmh: does any card work in that machine when it's running debian? |
| 09:35.14 | bmh | no |
| 09:35.18 | bmh | well, |
| 09:35.39 | bmh | the xircom cardbus one gets detected and shows in ifconfig, but wont actually transmit anything |
| 09:35.55 | bmh | and the other pcmcia one shows in dmesg but then not in ifconfig |
| 09:36.13 | bmh | but that's the one that i just used with the slax live cd, and slax detected it; i could ping google with it |
| 09:36.21 | bmh | it's also the card that works with my other debian laptop |
| 09:36.37 | bmh | so basically, i think i need to install/configure something on the debian install for this problematic laptop |
| 09:37.22 | moshii | bmh: can you paste your dmesg for the machine that doesn't work? I want to see if the host bridge modules are loaded |
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| 09:37.57 | bmh | a little tricky to post the dmesg (no net), but i just grepped |
| 09:37.59 | bmh | and it says |
| 09:38.17 | bmh | Yenta: CardBus bridge found at 0000: etc |
| 09:38.24 | bmh | (twice) |
| 09:39.21 | moshii | so it loads the cardbus bridge. you should have another one for the pcmcia side of things iirc |
| 09:39.39 | bmh | ooh, just noticed it yeah, |
| 09:39.42 | bmh | also has |
| 09:39.54 | bmh | ACPI: Assume root bridge |
| 09:40.06 | bmh | PCI: Bus 2, cardbus bridge: |
| 09:40.08 | bmh | PCI: Bus 6, cardbus bridge: |
| 09:40.58 | moshii | if the card is an ne2000 based card it's going to be ISA.. sooo I think you need the pcmcia_cs package |
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| 09:41.36 | moshii | bmh: pcmcia-cs still exists. Try that |
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| 09:42.19 | bmh | dpkg reports that its already installed :/ |
| 09:42.20 | dpkg | bmh: wish i knew |
| 09:42.28 | bmh | as well as pcmciautils |
| 09:42.57 | moshii | it's been ages since I had a machine with pcmcia.. and that was an amiga |
| 09:43.02 | bmh | heh |
| 09:43.39 | comp | hi all, I would like to care about kernel manually (use git, manage sources, kernels and grub on my own, just as I used to on slackware), however the dependencies system forces me to have another useless "official" precompiled kernel. Is there a way to make such "metapackage"? |
| 09:43.42 | moshii | I had problems with a compaq machine with pcmcia though.. just got a newer card that was cardbus in the end |
| 09:44.00 | liable | comp: then uninstall the meta package |
| 09:44.11 | bmh | ya, well at this point i'd be writing it off as a hardware issue, except that it worked with the live cd :/ |
| 09:44.13 | liable | useless official kernel? |
| 09:44.27 | comp | liable: there are certain things, like iptables and such, that depends on it .. |
| 09:44.33 | bmh | i think this was my very first debian install on this laptop, so i wonder if i did something wrong |
| 09:44.36 | comp | liable: "useless" in means I don't use it |
| 09:44.47 | bmh | (it was a netinstall, however; so something must have worked with the card.....) |
| 09:44.53 | moshii | bmh: load up the live cd and use lsmod, ps auwx etc and find out what it's doing differently |
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| 09:45.26 | bmh | stuff it, just gonna reinstall it while i do something else ;) |
| 09:45.32 | moshii | bmh: it could be using an older/newer kernel too |
| 09:45.35 | bmh | thanks heaps for your help moshii :) :) |
| 09:45.39 | bmh | yeah, good poitn |
| 09:45.40 | liable | comp: why dont you use make-kpkg and make one thats a debian package and then the dependancies will be ok. otherwise look at equivs |
| 09:45.53 | moshii | bmh: you probably just need some stupid module to make it work ;) |
| 09:46.02 | bmh | i know, that's the annoying thing :) |
| 09:46.05 | bmh | hehe |
| 09:46.07 | moshii | bmh: pcmcia is isa, isa == shit |
| 09:46.08 | comp | liable: that needs the kernel-sources package, right? |
| 09:46.21 | bmh | if it doesnt work after the reinstall, i'll have to get my hand a bit dirtier |
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| 09:46.27 | liable | comp: you can make kernels from whichever source you like |
| 09:46.32 | ohno | kind of the irony of "dll hell" |
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| 09:46.55 | bmh | lol |
| 09:46.56 | moshii | bmh: install with the card inserted so when the installer probes for isa stuff it should see it |
| 09:47.20 | bmh | ya, well, its gonna be a net install, so i'll have to be! :) |
| 09:47.29 | comp | liable: I read through such "tutorials" and it seemed rather complicated ... |
| 09:47.44 | liable | !tell comp about kp mantra |
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| 09:48.22 | moshii | bmh: is it a pII laptop? |
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| 09:48.51 | moshii | bmh: you might want to boot with acpi=none or something if it's really old hardware |
| 09:48.58 | bmh | i believe so |
| 09:49.07 | OpenTokix | trumpen: any reading works, any fixing will prolly not work |
| 09:49.29 | bmh | i'll keep that in mind |
| 09:50.02 | liable | comp: you can actually skip most of that and just do 'make-kpkg kernel_image' |
| 09:50.21 | comp | liable: kernel_image is the name of the final package? |
| 09:50.27 | liable | no |
| 09:50.40 | comp | or target bzImage |
| 09:50.45 | liable | its based on whatever the source is |
| 09:50.59 | liable | it makes a deb file |
| 09:51.08 | liable | then you install that |
| 09:51.30 | comp | liable: well, okay, I'll play around it a while ... |
| 09:51.34 | comp | thanks |
| 09:51.47 | liable | np, its pretty simple once you use it |
| 09:51.57 | Trewas | moshii: cardbus seems to be often called pcmcia, so "pcmcia" might be either isa or pci |
| 09:52.27 | comp | maybe I'll write a script for that ^^ |
| 09:52.34 | moshii | Trewas: cardbus is 32bit pci.. pcmcia is 16bit isa |
| 09:53.29 | moshii | Trewas: then you have express card or whatever.. which is pci express and/or usb |
| 09:54.37 | Trewas | moshii: yes, but both pcmcia and cardbus look pretty much the same and the terms seem to be often used interchangeably |
| 09:55.23 | Trewas | moshii: so if someone is speaking of pcmcia they might mean cardbus, because they don't know the difference... |
| 09:56.20 | moshii | Trewas: yup, but in this case his hardware is old, so you have to check if he means pcmcia or cardbus as his hardware might not have supported the later |
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| 09:57.43 | Trewas | moshii: yeah... but at least there are pci-based ne2000 cards, dunno about cardbus |
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| 10:00.23 | terbo | needs a beer after that dist-upgrade |
| 10:00.24 | moshii | Trewas: true |
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| 10:02.20 | szonek | could you please recommend me a webmail platform (alternatives to squirrelmail)? |
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| 10:04.17 | moshii | .win 5 |
| 10:04.24 | moshii | woops |
| 10:05.04 | joltcan | szonek: roundcube |
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| 10:06.33 | szonek | joltcan: any others? |
| 10:06.34 | szonek | :) |
| 10:08.56 | moshii | szonek: horde |
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| 10:12.01 | szonek | okay i must reconstruct my question :) |
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| 10:12.14 | szonek | could you please recommend me a webmail platform (alternatives to squirrelmail, roundcube and horde)? |
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| 10:12.37 | mrglinux | how can I archive my files with high level of compression |
| 10:13.36 | joltcan | mrglinux: use bzip2? |
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| 10:15.56 | terbo | wonders about 7zip sometimes |
| 10:16.03 | terbo | mrglinux: it depends on what type of files they are. |
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| 10:17.32 | mrglinux | terbo all of them are .wmv |
| 10:18.17 | terbo | video is compressed. bzip *may* get you a few more kilobytes, or it may add a few kilobytes with headers/CRC info. |
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| 10:40.50 | Ko_deZ | Hi. I was wondering what app I should use to generate only the .dsc file when making a .deb package. |
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| 10:41.38 | Ko_deZ | I find that using debuild, the package is created together with everything else, but I would like to use pbuilder, and that demands a .dsc file. |
| 10:44.40 | tralala | Ko_deZ, the dsc file is created, not generated |
| 10:44.57 | Ko_deZ | tralala: what does that mean? |
| 10:45.08 | tralala | It means that you have to create it |
| 10:45.19 | tralala | or download it for existing debian package |
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| 10:45.48 | Ko_deZ | tralala: Oh. But debuild generates it for me at least. |
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| 10:46.22 | replicant | hi, i'm willing to set up some monitoring system with Debian... does any one know of any way of sending free SMS? |
| 10:46.22 | tralala | Ko_deZ, does it? Where does it get the information needed? |
| 10:47.13 | arussel | I am trying to get started with apache mod_rewrite, I wrote this simple conf: http://pastebin.com/m42f0160f |
| 10:47.23 | arussel | but it doesn't seem to do anything. |
| 10:47.33 | Ko_deZ | tralala: I guess from the debian/ files. At least, if I change something in, say, changelog, the .dsc file is updated with the changes when I run debuild |
| 10:47.33 | avu | tralala, from the debian/ directory of course |
| 10:47.40 | avu | Ko_deZ, dpkg-buildpackage -S |
| 10:48.04 | Ko_deZ | avu: Great! Thanks. |
| 10:48.22 | tralala | I see. Nice to know. |
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| 10:49.23 | Ko_deZ | avu: That worked perfectly. |
| 10:49.32 | tralala | arussel, ask #apache |
| 10:49.46 | Ko_deZ | avu: Did a little more than I was asking, but that is fine =) |
| 10:49.57 | arussel | tralala: ok, thanks |
| 10:50.10 | avu | Ko_deZ, it generated a complete source package, which should be just what you need for pbuilder? |
| 10:50.28 | avu | Ko_deZ, add -us -uc if you want to skip the signing |
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| 10:52.50 | Ko_deZ | avu: good stuff. I don't really know what pbuilder uses. I have only understood that if it does not compile with pbuilder, I have done something wrong. And to run pbuilder, I have needed to run debuild first. I am very much a newbie at this. |
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| 10:54.49 | Tapout | where are the options for filesystems documented? for example : defaults,noatime,nodiratime,barrier <-- I'm trying to see all the options 'xfs' supports |
| 10:56.41 | Tapout | mount options :) |
| 10:56.43 | Tapout | man mount |
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| 11:03.03 | SPF | lol -> http://www.w3schools.com/TAGS/lastpage.htm |
| 11:03.51 | rdz | hi all. i would like to upgrade my harddrive of my laptop. how can i transfer all partitions, so that it will boot from the new drive afterwards? also i would like the /home partition to use the additional space. |
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| 11:04.27 | rdz | i have a dual boot system on it. is it possible to transfer even the bootloader? |
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| 11:04.50 | tarzeau | rdz: dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb bs=4m |
| 11:04.59 | tarzeau | rdz: while none of them is mounted |
| 11:05.01 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'LC_MESSAGES/Linux-PAM.mo' returned no results. |
| 11:05.14 | rdz | tarzeau, does that even work, if both drives are not the same model? |
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| 11:05.23 | tarzeau | rdz: it worked for me, yes |
| 11:05.29 | rdz | tarzeau, how can i increase the /home partition then? |
| 11:05.35 | rdz | tarzeau, thanks. |
| 11:05.42 | tarzeau | rdz: using qtparted or something |
| 11:06.20 | rdz | tarzeau, aha.. you mean: first do the dd stuff, then reformat the /home partition and then copy it over again (with rsync or so)? |
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| 11:06.39 | tarzeau | rdz: or just resize it? dunno if it'll work |
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| 11:07.00 | rdz | tarzeau, ah.. i didn't know, that filesystems can be changed without formatting |
| 11:07.08 | tarzeau | rdz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QtParted |
| 11:07.08 | rdz | tarzeau, thanks a lot...i think i got the idea |
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| 11:16.50 | luna1 | . |
| 11:16.55 | tarzeau | . |
| 11:16.55 | extor | I have GNU coreutils installed but when I look for the base64 binary it doesnt exist. What could possibly be wrong? |
| 11:17.32 | kmeyer | extor: broken PATH? |
| 11:17.38 | kmeyer | broken install of coreutils? |
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| 11:18.08 | extor | /usr/bin/base64 |
| 11:18.12 | extor | not there! |
| 11:18.33 | rhineheart_m | hello. anybody here who tried installing dansguardian over webmin in debian environment? |
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| 11:20.25 | cipherz | hello, is there a way to make debuild put its generated .changes, .deb and so on in a certain directory |
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| 11:35.39 | Hodenkeks | http://www.pennergame.de/change_please/1933371/ |
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| 11:37.31 | abrotman | tomaw: are we supposed to notify someone when one of those pops up? |
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| 11:37.56 | tomaw | abrotman: I have the links on highlight so I usually spot them if I am around |
| 11:38.17 | abrotman | ah ok |
| 11:38.18 | tomaw | abrotman: if you get a lot of spam from the same account (the number on the end identifies them) then the ops in #pennergame will often ban the account |
| 11:38.43 | abrotman | what do they even get? |
| 11:38.52 | abrotman | money? fame? free books? |
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| 11:39.06 | tomaw | I think it's just an online game |
| 11:39.15 | tomaw | They get points for people clicking their link |
| 11:39.16 | abrotman | uh .. ok |
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| 12:20.06 | kanyukuk_ | hi, i need xorg.conf file... does anyone send me that? |
| 12:20.29 | Kamping_Kaiser | what did you do to yours? |
| 12:20.35 | Kamping_Kaiser | and try X -configure |
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| 12:22.10 | SPF | I always make a symlink to xorg |
| 12:22.30 | kanyukuk_ | k |
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| 12:22.38 | kanyukuk_ | i need a xorg.conf |
| 12:22.43 | kanyukuk_ | can you send me that |
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| 12:23.10 | abrotman | kanyukuk_: which version of Debian? |
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| 12:24.42 | abrotman | okay then |
| 12:25.03 | kanyukuk_ | i dont use debian now abrotman |
| 12:25.12 | abrotman | then why are you asking? |
| 12:25.16 | kanyukuk_ | i use pardus but i need some linux xorf.conf file |
| 12:25.28 | kanyukuk_ | i will take a look it |
| 12:25.28 | abrotman | i'm sure pardus has a method to create their own .. ask them or ##linux .. |
| 12:25.34 | kanyukuk_ | i have some trouble with my video card |
| 12:25.38 | abrotman | i'm sure pardus has a method to create their own .. ask them or ##linux .. |
| 12:25.48 | abrotman | like .. #pardus? |
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| 12:26.17 | kanyukuk_ | i want debian xorg.conf file.. |
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| 12:26.41 | abrotman | ask ##linux |
| 12:26.52 | kanyukuk_ | anyway |
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| 12:30.17 | taxman | /msg dpkg guidelines |
| 12:30.22 | jelly-home | kanyukuk_: we don't know which debian release you want an xorg.conf from, and the latest xorg in debian doesn't really need that file any more anyway. Googling for, say, debian my xorg.conf, could probably bring up something but I'm sure you've already tried that |
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| 12:33.42 | taxman | not the result I was expecting. do I just have a borked IRC client? |
| 12:35.23 | abrotman | taxman: you had some goofy character in front |
| 12:35.29 | abrotman | !tell taxman about guidelines |
| 12:35.38 | taxman | ah ok, thanks |
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| 12:41.01 | taxman | I've acquired a Sun Ultra 1 and I'm trying to boot into some sort of a useful environment to see what is on the current disks. If I netboot debian will that bot me into an installer or a fully live type system? |
| 12:41.20 | taxman | *boot |
| 12:41.24 | tarzeau | taxman: you could use my livecd.gnustep.org |
| 12:41.29 | tarzeau | debian boots into an installer |
| 12:41.42 | taxman | yeah I grabbed that and it drops me to busybox |
| 12:41.51 | tarzeau | you grabbed what? debian? |
| 12:42.08 | tarzeau | http://debian.ethz.ch/mirror/gnustep/GNUSTEP-sparc64-1.9.iso |
| 12:42.18 | abrotman | ultra1 isn't 64bit ? |
| 12:42.19 | tarzeau | grab that, it's a full system |
| 12:42.20 | abrotman | is it? |
| 12:42.22 | taxman | with no explanation other than "Unable to find a medium with a live filesystem" |
| 12:42.23 | tarzeau | it is, all ultra are |
| 12:42.34 | tarzeau | abrotman: freebsd has some problems supporting ultra1 |
| 12:42.37 | tarzeau | linux does fine |
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| 12:42.42 | abrotman | FSVO fine |
| 12:42.42 | taxman | yes, that's the iso I booted from |
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| 12:43.06 | abrotman | tarzeau: apparently gnustep has problems with supporting ultra1 :) |
| 12:43.08 | abrotman | !sparc |
| 12:43.08 | dpkg | i heard sparc is the CPU architecture used in Sun's proprietary hardware. Non-embedded ones usually run Solaris, but to run Linux on it, visit http://www.ultralinux.org/faq.html, Type make vmlinux (not kernel, bzImage, lilo, anything like that) to compile the kernel. For more information about the SPARC architecture, see http://www.sparc.org. For help with Linux on SPARC look in #debian-sparc on irc.oftc.net, or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPARC |
| 12:43.12 | tarzeau | abrotman: it's linux |
| 12:43.18 | taxman | is there a way to get more info about why it failed? |
| 12:43.19 | abrotman | tarzeau: i blame your dog |
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| 12:43.51 | tarzeau | bah |
| 12:44.01 | wimpies | hi all, I need to configure my network statically (in /etc/network/interfaces) but need to specify a nameserver. with the resolvconf utility installed, the /etc/resolv.conf says you cannot modify it. Can I add the nameserver somewhere in the interfaces file ? |
| 12:44.07 | taxman | I was going to ask about the gnustep cd, I didn't expect you to be right here :) |
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| 12:44.46 | yang | wimpies: add dns-nameservers <ip> <ip> info /etc/network/interfaces |
| 12:44.55 | yang | info/into |
| 12:45.06 | eraldo | I am looking for a labelprinter for printing text from the command line! any ideas ? |
| 12:45.11 | wimpies | Thx |
| 12:46.23 | taxman | tarzeau: actually I'm more than happy to help test this thing for you. I actually acquired it from my LUG and I'd like to get it working and give a demonstration of what I've found |
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| 12:48.03 | g0to | hello there, all |
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| 12:49.28 | g0to | I'm looking for a floppy mininst image for lenny in debian official site but cannot find anything, anybody knows where can I find floppy images for this? |
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| 12:53.08 | SeveredCross | What are you intalling Lenny on that doesn't have a CD-ROM? |
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| 12:54.57 | tarzeau | taxman: cool :) |
| 12:54.59 | g0to | yes it have , but I don't have a burner :S |
| 12:55.11 | tarzeau | taxman: could you try a different cd? i guess you already do boot cdrom ? |
| 12:55.30 | taxman | yes, boot cdrom works fine |
| 12:55.34 | tarzeau | taxman: i have only tested/built it on my ultra10, i also got some spare ultra5,2,1 but i need time to test it there |
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| 12:56.49 | taxman | point to the cd and I'll try it. |
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| 12:57.51 | tarzeau | taxman: you only have sparc, or also powerpc, amd64, i386? |
| 12:57.56 | g0to | taxman: do you have any testing install floppy image? |
| 12:58.18 | taxman | g0to: I don't see any lenny floppy images, sorry |
| 12:58.34 | g0to | taxman: thanks anyway |
| 12:58.53 | taxman | tarzeau: actually this machine I'm on is i386 and I have a macbook I can test with |
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| 12:59.14 | taxman | can I netbook the ultra 1 from this i386 machine? |
| 12:59.20 | tarzeau | http://debian.ethz.ch/mirror/gnustep/GNUSTEP-i486-1.9.isotaxman: then http://debian.ethz.ch/mirror/gnustep/GNUSTEP-powerpc-1.8.iso and |
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| 12:59.47 | taxman | so you want me to try the older version? |
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| 13:00.16 | ttuttle|cingular | Hi. I just got a VPS with Debian 4.0, and I'm setting up the firewall. It's got iptables, but I'm not sure how to persist the firewall state over reboots. Do I need to just write my own init script, or does Debian do this for me? |
| 13:00.57 | taxman | oh sorry, didn't look, the new macbook is core2 duo, not powerpc |
| 13:01.21 | stew | ttuttle|cingular: use iptables-save to create a save file, then load the save file with iptabes-restore from a pre-up line in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 13:02.04 | ttuttle|cingular | stew: Cool, thanks! |
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| 13:08.23 | ttuttle|cingular | Er, my system did not come with a wheel group. |
| 13:08.48 | stew | ttuttle|cingular: /msg dpkg wheel |
| 13:09.00 | ttuttle|cingular | stew: thanks ;-) |
| 13:09.38 | ttuttle|cingular | stew: So Debian simply does not have a wheel group? |
| 13:09.47 | ttuttle|cingular | stew: What's the best way to restrict who can su to root? |
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| 13:10.32 | justin | ttuttle|cingular: don't tell people the root password? |
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| 13:14.06 | stew | ttuttle|cingular: you can add a wheel group and configure the pam module. you can take off the suid flag from su and only let people use it via sudo (which allows very fined grained control) |
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| 13:16.13 | ttuttle|cingular | justin: Well, of course not. |
| 13:16.24 | ttuttle|cingular | justin: But I'd rather not even give untrusted users the chance to guess it. |
| 13:17.47 | Maulkin | ll |
| 13:17.51 | Maulkin | err. Fail |
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| 13:22.50 | mefiXe | how can i effectively disable usb at boot time? |
| 13:23.04 | mefiXe | "nousb" as kernel parameter doesn't work |
| 13:23.11 | utb_diablo | noauto in fstab ? |
| 13:23.27 | mefiXe | noauto? |
| 13:23.33 | justin | mefiXe: you can remove/blacklist the usb modules |
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| 13:23.53 | mefiXe | justin: already tried, debian loads the modules anyways |
| 13:24.08 | mefiXe | i put them into /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist |
| 13:24.09 | stew | mefiXe: how did you blacklist them? |
| 13:24.21 | XKpe | if i want to call fortune after the motd where is the correct place to put it? |
| 13:24.28 | XKpe | i want to do this for all users |
| 13:24.29 | mefiXe | each starting with "blacklist <module>" |
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| 13:26.14 | x86 | hey guys, I'm running Etch and I would like to try out KDE4 |
| 13:26.24 | x86 | I followed the steps here: http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/experimental.html |
| 13:26.33 | abrotman | and now you should ask #debian-kde |
| 13:26.40 | x86 | ah ok |
| 13:26.41 | x86 | thanks |
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| 13:27.00 | ttuttle|cingular | likes this channel. It's very efficient. |
| 13:27.31 | debeee | hi, is there a libdvcss and k9copy packages available? |
| 13:28.03 | Strogg | Slightly offtopic Question: Does anyone know how I can find out if gcc can build code for an specific arm cpu? I"m building a board and I'm going to be doing my development on debian.. I plan on opensourcing the board so I want to make writing code for it easy if I can. |
| 13:28.09 | mefiXe | so its not possible to disable usb in debian right? |
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| 13:28.28 | justin | mefiXe: you can remove/blacklist the usb modules |
| 13:28.46 | mefiXe | well, i blacklisted them but debian keeps loading them |
| 13:28.47 | Strogg | It's the AT91SAM7S64, atmel's arm7 CPU |
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| 13:29.31 | taxman | Strogg: #gcc if that's their channel? |
| 13:30.07 | Strogg | man.. I wish irssi and weechat had something to search channel names.. |
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| 13:30.42 | stew | Strogg: /msg alis help |
| 13:30.42 | meekatron | i am using a eeepc and i like to start straight into terminal is there a command i can type so i can connect to my wireless connection without opening the network manager on the desktop |
| 13:31.05 | stew | meekatron: you can configure wireless in /etc/network/interfaces ; man wireless ; man interfaces |
| 13:31.22 | Strogg | stew: neat! thanks |
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| 13:33.27 | mefiXe | is it possible to pass "nousb" as parameter to the kernel at boot? would that effectively disable usb? |
| 13:33.46 | HeXiLed | after doing # dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and load the driver module i get no screens found with this x conf : http://rafb.net/p/GE4Tow19.html . what am i missing here? |
| 13:34.19 | justin | HeXiLed: /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 13:35.01 | meekatron | stew: i have the network already configured i would usuall just open up the network manager on click connect on my wireless network |
| 13:35.15 | HeXiLed | justin (EE) No devices detected. Fatal server error: no screens found |
| 13:35.22 | stew | meekatron: ok |
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| 13:35.38 | stew | !no screens found |
| 13:35.38 | dpkg | i guess screens found is not a useful message - it means X11 has a problem somewhere with something. Read your /var/log/Xorg.0.log (or /var/log/XFree86.0.log for XFree86) more closely, and look for the real error, which probably begins with (EE), or - ask me about <troubleshooting x>. |
| 13:36.09 | stew | HeXiLed: well "no devices detected" generally means that there is no hardware in your system that the driver you are using supports |
| 13:36.13 | justin | HeXiLed: the last line is not helpful. read the whole log, pastebin it if you can't figure it out |
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| 13:36.28 | HeXiLed | ok i i will |
| 13:36.58 | HeXiLed | http://rafb.net/p/qRsd3s49.html |
| 13:37.10 | HeXiLed | perhaps it it's the driver version |
| 13:37.46 | stew | HeXiLed: is there a reason you are using the non-free driver instead of the free one that comes with debian? |
| 13:38.06 | HeXiLed | couldn make any to work. |
| 13:38.13 | HeXiLed | which one do you recommend ? |
| 13:38.21 | stew | HeXiLed: the free one, radeon |
| 13:38.49 | HeXiLed | ok |
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| 13:43.30 | HeXiLed | ok .. it gives this : http://rafb.net/p/atEuPr43.html & http://rafb.net/p/toofast.html |
| 13:43.39 | HeXiLed | thats both the log and the conf |
| 13:43.49 | HeXiLed | http://rafb.net/p/siXxNJ29.html |
| 13:45.29 | justin | HeXiLed: did you read the log? |
| 13:45.31 | justin | HeXiLed: (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/dri/radeon_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/dri/radeon_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory) |
| 13:46.02 | justin | HeXiLed: and then apparently your fonts are broken too |
| 13:46.02 | HeXiLed | yah but i have it loaded . |
| 13:46.22 | HeXiLed | the fonts are. i did minimal install |
| 13:46.26 | stew | is this one of those things where installing the non-free driver screwed the free driver? |
| 13:46.30 | justin | HeXiLed: apt-get install xorg |
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| 13:47.40 | HeXiLed | ls /usr/lib/dri/radeon_dri.so show it there |
| 13:47.42 | HeXiLed | installing |
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| 13:47.58 | FabParma | Please, how to reset to defaul all Kde enviroment? |
| 13:48.13 | HeXiLed | thanks for the attention guys. this is not even my box. i am helping a friend |
| 13:48.32 | HeXiLed | X is working |
| 13:48.38 | HeXiLed | 5 stars ! |
| 13:48.41 | justin | HeXiLed: 3d isn't |
| 13:48.47 | justin | HeXiLed: unless that also fixed the other error |
| 13:48.55 | HeXiLed | at least X is. |
| 13:49.10 | HeXiLed | lemme check |
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| 13:53.25 | Hinata` | Hello, I just installed Debian (without GDM so there is just tty) and when I try to type a command as root with sudo it says bash: sudo: command not found" is there something to do? ^^' |
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| 13:53.38 | Hinata` | oh and "su" work though ^^' |
| 13:53.44 | HeXiLed | justin AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual ,< is it half working ? |
| 13:53.51 | stew | Hinata`: aptitude install sudo |
| 13:54.02 | stew | Hinata`: (and then setup /etc/sudoers) |
| 13:54.13 | justin | HeXiLed: does the log still show errors? |
| 13:54.53 | HeXiLed | only this i believe (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. |
| 13:55.01 | stew | HeXiLed: are you planning to use AIGLX? |
| 13:55.04 | justin | HeXiLed: that is the legend |
| 13:55.09 | Hinata` | oh thanks stew ^^ |
| 13:55.57 | HeXiLed | stew well im not sure if the box owner wants it. i guess it would be good to have it working . |
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| 13:56.04 | HeXiLed | what do i need ? |
| 13:56.46 | OpenTokix | HeXiLed: Also (II) for info |
| 13:56.56 | stew | HeXiLed: this warning is telling you that your card does not have support for every type of hardware accelleration that AIGLX is prepared to use, its not necessarily someting you can do anything about, and its not going to make AIGLX completely unusable |
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| 13:57.35 | HeXiLed | stew basicly... it's the card that is at fault. . it's an old card . |
| 13:57.38 | HeXiLed | right ? |
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| 13:58.04 | stew | HeXiLed: that would be my guess |
| 13:58.15 | stew | and without more info, we are just guessing |
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| 13:59.43 | HeXiLed | as for login manager... is there any non gnome/kde login manager that allows to choose which WM we want to use? personaly i go from startx with fluxbox. this install has flux and xfce4 and xdm. |
| 14:00.23 | justin | HeXiLed: xdm works fine. you can just setup ~/.xsession to load whatever wm you want |
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| 14:00.54 | jelly-home | HeXiLed: gdm doesn't bring in many gnome libraries. I use it with xfce. Used wdm before that |
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| 14:01.31 | HeXiLed | i like vdm |
| 14:01.32 | stew | "aptitude search '~Gx11::display-manager'" should list all of the possibilities |
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| 14:02.23 | jelly-home | are tags obligatory now? |
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| 14:02.43 | justin | apt-cache showpkg x-display-manager |
| 14:02.49 | jelly-home | I'd look for providers of x-display-manager first, right |
| 14:03.03 | justin | tough that doesn't even show xdm, go figure :) |
| 14:03.18 | stew | justin: shows xdm here |
| 14:03.24 | justin | etch? |
| 14:03.25 | stew | jelly-home: not obligatory |
| 14:03.29 | stew | lenny |
| 14:03.39 | justin | no lenny for me yet :) |
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| 14:06.10 | jelly-home | so aptitude search '~Px-display-manager' |
| 14:06.46 | jelly-home | !info slim |
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| 14:07.18 | dpkg | slim: (desktop-independent graphical login manager for X11), section x11, is optional. Version: 1.3.0-1 (sid), Packaged size: 445 kB, Installed size: 676 kB |
| 14:07.27 | songq | haha |
| 14:07.48 | jelly-home | not in etch |
| 14:08.06 | HeXiLed | very very nice wdm. where is wdm conf ? can we change some of the options presented in the menu start WM ? |
| 14:08.19 | justin | HeXiLed: dpkg -L wdm |
| 14:08.37 | HeXiLed | thank you |
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| 14:10.22 | Jes` | k |
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| 14:11.17 | varlon | hi, I'm using Debian Lenny, so, I want to upload photo to picasaweb, I try f-spot, but I put on wrong password. Now, I can't change password, this utilite crashed everytime, when I try to run picasaweb export. How can I launch options dialog for this Export plugin in f-spot? |
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| 14:14.30 | keith4 | varlon: as a last resort, you could probably remove and purge f-spot, and reinstall it |
| 14:14.39 | Gillpy | How can I create a template of a directory, like a copy but all the normal files are empty ? |
| 14:15.44 | keith4 | varlon: but, it's a gnome app... so its conf might be in gconf. purging it might not help |
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| 14:17.12 | rdz | would dd be faster than cp, when copying the same amount of data? |
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| 14:17.31 | rdz | how can i see the progress of dd? |
| 14:17.32 | stew | rdz: slower |
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| 14:17.38 | stew | rdz: send it sigusr |
| 14:17.44 | stew | err sigusr1 |
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| 14:18.19 | tralala | Gillpy, you can first copy it all, then truncate the files |
| 14:18.20 | rdz | stew, how can i do that? |
| 14:18.22 | varlon | keith4, thanks. I try to edit/remove password from key-ring stores |
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| 14:18.26 | stew | rdz: with kill |
| 14:18.32 | Pav5088 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:18.33 | varlon | but now hi want this key |
| 14:18.36 | rdz | stew, thanks |
| 14:18.38 | tralala | rdz, kill -USR1 pid |
| 14:18.42 | stew | rdz: well whether or not one is faster than the cp is a function of the blocksize used. the default blocksize would be slower |
| 14:18.44 | varlon | I will try to remove this f-spot |
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| 14:18.58 | varlon | I think it's a bug, where can I report? |
| 14:19.02 | rdz | stew, i am using 4M |
| 14:19.25 | stew | rdz: on most machines that will be the same blocksize that cp uses, so i'd expect it to be just about the same |
| 14:19.59 | ttuttle|cingular | varlon: Reinstalling F-Spot probably won't help, as it won't remove your incorrect password. |
| 14:20.25 | newsense | on a default debian install dhcpclient3 should obtain an ip at kernel boot before a user even logs in right ? |
| 14:20.37 | rdz | stew, wow.. sending it SIG messages is _very_ useful... thanks a lot for that |
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| 14:20.48 | stew | newsense: yes |
| 14:20.51 | rdz | stew, thanks... |
| 14:20.52 | tralala | newsense, at system init time, but yes |
| 14:21.00 | newsense | init should load it and it should send a dhcp request |
| 14:21.09 | rdz | (sorry, i am a bit shifted with reading and answering) |
| 14:21.14 | newsense | sorry what i mean just woke up haha |
| 14:21.19 | rwaite | how would i take a .deb package and find out if my system meets its requirements w/o installing it? |
| 14:21.20 | varlon | ttuttle|cingular, thanks, I still full reinstall this packeg now |
| 14:21.42 | Gillpy | tralala: How to truncate the files ? Remember I only want to truncate normal files, and keep the symlinks, fifos, etc. sane |
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| 14:22.07 | tralala | Gillpy, find /path/to/copy -type f |
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| 14:23.22 | Gillpy | tralala: tnx |
| 14:23.34 | tralala | there are a few options for truncating the file, but I don't know any unix prog that does just that |
| 14:23.58 | mmlj4 | rwaite: search for it here: http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages |
| 14:24.03 | Gillpy | tralala: I'll just echo > |
| 14:24.05 | Douglas_E | hello, I need some help getting a wireless to work. To start with the computer seems to have one built in and I would like to know what it is. |
| 14:24.20 | mmlj4 | Douglas_E: dmesg |
| 14:24.23 | stew | rwaite: what do you mean by requirements? dependencies? hardware requirements? |
| 14:24.31 | tralala | Gillpy, this will produce a non-empty file |
| 14:24.42 | stew | Douglas_E: see if "lspci" lists the card |
| 14:25.03 | rwaite | stew: deps. its a commercial app that provides an etch deb, but i wanna install on lenny. |
| 14:25.24 | tralala | Gillpy, but apparently echo -n > file produces an empty one |
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| 14:25.57 | varlon | the full reinstall doesn't work. I install it again and all my setting was saved |
| 14:26.21 | ttuttle|cingular | varlon: Yeah, they are stored in GConf probably. |
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| 14:26.26 | varlon | I select full remove in Synaptic, then install it again |
| 14:26.38 | stew | rwaite: you can extract the control files with dpkg -e, and look at the file named control |
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| 14:26.54 | varlon | may be, so I will try to edit this via gconf-editor |
| 14:27.03 | stew | rwaite: or you could try installing it then running "aptitude -f install" to fix the dependencies afterward |
| 14:27.23 | tralala | rwaite, dpkg -I will give you the package info |
| 14:27.38 | varlon | may be you now else utilite for upload photos to picasa? |
| 14:27.44 | varlon | * know |
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| 14:30.46 | ttuttle|cingular | Is there a way to install "the packages needed to compile software"? |
| 14:30.58 | petemc | !b-e ttuttle|cingular |
| 14:30.58 | dpkg | ttuttle|cingular: Sounds like you need to aptitude install build-essential. |
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| 14:31.13 | ttuttle|cingular | petemc, dpkg: Thanks. |
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| 14:31.40 | tralala | ttuttle|cingular, apt-get build-dep pkg |
| 14:31.47 | mm | hi |
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| 14:32.15 | Douglas_E | stew and mmlj4 what should I be looking for? I looked at all the output of both but can't say I really understand it all. lspci does not seem to list anything but controllers |
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| 14:33.10 | keith4 | Douglas_E: pastebin the output of lspci |
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| 14:33.21 | mm | dick |
| 14:33.37 | stew | Douglas_E: something that says "Wireless". do you know how the wireless is connected? pci/minipci? pcmcia? usb? |
| 14:34.00 | stew | mm: do you have a debian related question? |
| 14:34.13 | mm | no |
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| 14:35.22 | Douglas_E | stew, that is the problem. As far as I know there is no wireless yet the little KDE widget says there is a signal and when I cover the router antena it shows a drop in the signal on eth0. |
| 14:35.32 | mm | SUCK MY COCK |
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| 14:35.43 | Douglas_E | stew: it must be built in. |
| 14:35.55 | stew | Douglas_E: show us the output of lspci ; use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 14:35.57 | ttuttle|cingular | stew: Wow, you're quick on the draw ;-) |
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| 14:36.47 | ttuttle|cingular | Aptitude is giving me a 404 trying to fetch http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/glibc/libc6-dev_2.3.6.ds1-13etch5_amd64.deb... |
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| 14:37.20 | ttuttle|cingular | What do I do now? |
| 14:37.24 | stew | ttuttle|cingular: yes, that version has been replaced, have you run "aptitude update" recently? |
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| 14:37.34 | ttuttle|cingular | stew: No, I just got the VPS. I'll do that, thanks. |
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| 14:37.54 | Douglas_E | stew it will take some time as that computer is not on the net. I am using my other computer for talking here. |
| 14:37.57 | stew | ttuttle|cingular: make sure you have a 'security.debian.org' entry in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 14:38.05 | ttuttle|cingular | stew: Yep, it's got one! |
| 14:38.11 | ttuttle|cingular | Okay, that works now. |
| 14:38.33 | ttuttle|cingular | hunts for some basic docs on aptitude, so his system won't rot. |
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| 14:38.58 | ttuttle|cingular | Whoa, I'm getting "\fB" and "\fR" in my manpages!) |
| 14:39.02 | stew | Douglas_E: 'lspci | grep -i wireless" doesn't return anything? |
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| 14:39.15 | stew | ttuttle|cingular: yes, that was a bug in the aptitude manpage that has since been fixed |
| 14:39.22 | ttuttle|cingular | Okay, upgrading... |
| 14:39.39 | stew | ttuttle|cingular: the fix isn't in stable |
| 14:39.44 | ttuttle|cingular | Oh, okay. |
| 14:40.05 | stew | ttuttle|cingular: stable is only updated for security bugs and bugs so severe as to make the software unusable. that is the entire point of "stable" |
| 14:40.21 | ttuttle|cingular | stew: Yeah. (Makes it easier to maintain a stable system, I bet.) |
| 14:40.23 | Douglas_E | stew, no |
| 14:40.35 | djahandarie | :O |
| 14:41.03 | ttuttle|cingular | is liking Debian so far. |
| 14:41.15 | djahandarie | Oh, that was in resposne to a question. |
| 14:41.27 | djahandarie | -_- |
| 14:42.04 | stew | Douglas_E: is the wireless assigned an interface name like 'eth0' or 'wlan0' or 'ath0'? |
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| 14:43.03 | Douglas_E | The wirelless network device widget says it is getting the signal info from eth0 |
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| 14:43.46 | ttuttle|cingular | installs his most critical system package: irssi. |
| 14:44.05 | ttuttle|cingular | (It's the best troubleshooting tool ever!) |
| 14:44.12 | faileas | ;p |
| 14:44.14 | Douglas_E | stew (sorry forget you id theer)The wirelless network device widget says it is getting the signal info from eth0 |
| 14:44.18 | faileas | depends |
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| 14:44.23 | kiwizz | Anyone using latest stable debian and cyrus come across this issue ?> "TLS engine: cannot load CA data" |
| 14:44.28 | faileas | has been giving more help than he gets ;p |
| 14:45.04 | esaym | what is undo in vim? |
| 14:45.08 | stew | Douglas_E: what are the eth0 related lines from /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules ? |
| 14:45.08 | ttuttle|cingular | esaym: u |
| 14:45.27 | esaym | ttuttle|cingular: thanks, what service! |
| 14:45.28 | ttuttle|cingular | esaym: Also, there are many "vim cheat sheets" around the web. |
| 14:45.44 | ttuttle|cingular | esaym: ;-) |
| 14:45.44 | ttuttle|cingular | esaym: (Vim's my favorite editor.) |
| 14:45.44 | esaym | ttuttle|cingular: I am going to buy a book soon |
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| 14:46.29 | esaym | :( so undo doesn't work if you have already closed the file I guess? |
| 14:46.37 | ttuttle|cingular | esaym: No :-( |
| 14:46.49 | ttuttle|cingular | esaym: (Someone should write a plugin that makes it work that way.) |
| 14:47.24 | stew | esaym: there is also 'vimtutor' |
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| 14:48.39 | Douglas_E | stew SUBSYSTEM=="net", DRIVERS="?*", ATTR{address}="00,02,2d,25,89,8c" (not really commas but collens),NAME="eth0" |
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| 14:49.06 | esaym | vimtutor? cool! |
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| 14:49.40 | stew | Douglas_E: so that is 00022D Agere Systems (was: Lucent Technologies, probably an orinoco |
| 14:50.03 | stew | Douglas_E: does "lsmod | grep orinoco" return anything? |
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| 14:50.22 | neonlightning | esaym, also if you google image search VIM you can find a cheatsheet |
| 14:50.54 | Douglas_E | stew ya, a bunch of stuff. |
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| 14:51.27 | el_isma | Hello. I have troubles with a wireless bridge. It was working perfectly until I upgraded kernel. Now clients won't associate. I have a madwifi card, the module seems loaded ok and the iface seems to be working. How can I pinpoint the problem? |
| 14:51.59 | wad | I've just plugged in a UPS cable into a USB on my debian box. I'm not sure if the port I plugged it into is actually live, though. Is there a way to see if things are plugged in? |
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| 14:52.34 | stew | Douglas_E: ok, i lost track, besides identifying which wireless card you ahve, what are we actually trying to do? |
| 14:52.42 | Douglas_E | get it on the net |
| 14:52.43 | el_isma | wad: lsusb usually tells you which devices are plugged in |
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| 14:52.53 | wad | el_isma: Thanks! |
| 14:52.55 | Douglas_E | stew get it on the net |
| 14:53.08 | wad | Hey, it works! Thanks, perfect! |
| 14:53.21 | stew | Douglas_E: does "iwlist scanning" list any access points? |
| 14:53.58 | wad | So, my server can now see the UPS. Could someone point me in the right direction for how to tell my server to shut down cleanly when my UPS battery is about to run out? |
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| 14:54.52 | esaym | neonlightning: ty |
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| 14:55.40 | Douglas_E | stew I think so, it gives address 00:15:0c:b3:52:b8 essid "frogy" Mode master etc |
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| 14:56.40 | stew | Douglas_E: yes, that is an access point |
| 14:56.46 | tommy | which packet contains all the libc headers ? |
| 14:56.59 | stew | tommy: libc6-dev |
| 14:57.07 | madk | i can't connect to my samba-server. config file and smbclient -L here: http://pastebin.ca/1171542 |
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| 14:57.14 | stew | Douglas_E: which 'wireless device widget' are you talking about? network-manager? |
| 14:57.24 | tommy | stew, thanks |
| 14:57.39 | stew | tommy: you probably just want to install the build-essential package |
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| 14:58.01 | neonlightning | esaym, personally i have yet to find a linux system that lacks nano or pico and my experience using conkeror browser has shown that the emacs keys are more intuitive |
| 14:58.29 | Douglas_E | stew I can say for sure but it is on kicker (kde) and says wireless network device properties- kde panel |
| 14:58.49 | newsense | i have no nano or pico |
| 14:58.49 | Douglas_E | Stew I played with this so long that I think I left it a mess. |
| 14:59.00 | el_isma | I have troubles with a wireless bridge. It was working perfectly until I upgraded kernel. Now clients won't associate. I have a madwifi card, the module seems loaded ok and the iface seems to be working. How can I pinpoint the problem? |
| 14:59.17 | neonlightning | newsense, *shake fist* just to prove me wrong... TO THE DUNGEON! |
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| 14:59.31 | newsense | i just noticed it actually haha |
| 14:59.58 | stew | a default sarge install wouldn't have had nano, but etch does afaik |
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| 15:00.16 | stew | Douglas_E: do you know the essid of the network you want to connect to? |
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| 15:00.21 | keith4 | i have nano, but i can't figure out why |
| 15:00.29 | keith4 | it seems nothing depends on it |
| 15:00.44 | neonlightning | idk i love nano altho i've been checking out mcedit and mcview lately |
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| 15:01.50 | madk | i can't log in with windows, samba configuration here: http://pastebin.ca/1171542 what's wrong? |
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| 15:02.43 | Douglas_E | Stew this is where it gets tricky for me (besides being computer lame) the router is all in german but I think it is froggy. It has ssid set to froggy under wlan in the router config webpage. |
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| 15:07.00 | ArthurArchnix | my mirror is messed up... what's the official debian mirror for my sources.list file |
| 15:07.15 | stew | ArthurArchnix: /msg dpkg mirrors |
| 15:07.28 | kiwizz | Anyone using latest stable debian and cyrus come across this issue ?> "TLS engine: cannot load CA data" |
| 15:07.49 | stew | Douglas_E: and this wireless widget doesn't give you a way to connect to 'froggy'? |
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| 15:09.06 | Douglas_E | stew now it is just a meter and shows disk and cpu also but I can start anything you like, I think I have everywireless software there is installed. |
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| 15:09.08 | ArthurArchnix | stew that has a list of mirrors alright... but they don't look anything like what I've got in my sources list |
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| 15:11.14 | debeee | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:11.28 | stew | ArthurArchnix: show us your sources.list ; use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 15:11.48 | ArthurArchnix | s'ok. I found someone who pasted theirs on the debian forums. |
| 15:12.01 | stew | Douglas_E: is network-manager-kde installed? |
| 15:12.29 | stew | ArthurArchnix: make sure that the one you are using now is appropriate for the debian release you are running |
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| 15:13.04 | ArthurArchnix | yup.. Lennny not stable was the only change I had to make... and there was a huge slew of updates, so chances are my local mirror was busy syncing or some such and that's why I was getting errors |
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| 15:13.33 | ArthurArchnix | If I see update-initramfs running it means i have to reboot for the changes to take place, right? |
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| 15:15.03 | utb_diablo_ | think yes |
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| 15:19.16 | Peanut | We're getting a debian package with a kernel driver for some obscure hardware. But the .deb package actually contains the source-code, and when you dpkg -i it, it first compiles itself. Is that normal? |
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| 15:19.44 | Peanut | The guys who made package say that this is so it will work even when the Etch kernel or headers change. |
| 15:19.56 | stew | Peanut: its not normal that it compiles itself, it would be more normal if it installs source to /usr/src that you compile with module-assistant |
| 15:20.33 | Peanut | The instructions are to run 'module-assistant prepare' and then 'dpkg -i' the packages, which install themselves. |
| 15:20.38 | Douglas_E | stew I brought up kwifimanager and connected to froggy and it gives a connection speed but I still can't get on the net. IT also does not give a local IP. Is that normal? |
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| 15:20.56 | Peanut | My question boils down to, what is the best way to distribute such a kernel module? |
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| 15:21.55 | Gillpy | Does anyone use cfs over sshfs, or something similar? |
| 15:22.00 | stew | Douglas_E: does 'dhclient eth0' get you an ip address? |
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| 15:22.51 | stew | Peanut: as a module which one would compile with module-assistant, "apt-cache rdepends module-assistant" will list other packages packaged in this way |
| 15:23.31 | Douglas_E | stew if I am understanding what that command just did, it made it connect to 192.168.182.20 |
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| 15:23.43 | Peanut | I've got quite a few of those it seems, not sure if I have any of those installed. |
| 15:24.04 | Douglas_E | stew, it did and the net works!!! THanks!! now how do I make this always work? |
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| 15:25.11 | Peanut | stew: seems they are all -source packages indeed. |
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| 15:26.04 | stew | Douglas_E: i'd recommend either using something like netowrk-manager, or, if you are always connecting to the same network, setup the essid / channel in /etc/network/interfaces (man wireless ; man interfaces) |
| 15:26.34 | fnth | i want install nvidia-driver in debian but i have problems with 2.6.24 kernel |
| 15:27.03 | fnth | i dont find in repository |
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| 15:28.54 | DimmuR | fnth, install 2.6.26 then :> |
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| 15:29.25 | fnth | i am a newbie in linux but my problem is not with the kernel |
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| 15:30.17 | DimmuR | ive installed 2 days ago 2.6.26-1 & nvidia drivers (debian way) and it's working great |
| 15:30.33 | debeee | deadcat? |
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| 15:30.57 | fnth | http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaHowTo |
| 15:31.02 | fnth | this way? |
| 15:31.51 | debeee | is there a webcam motion capture package available? |
| 15:32.02 | cahoot | motion |
| 15:32.09 | Ragon_Player352 | AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH |
| 15:32.14 | debeee | is that all i need |
| 15:32.25 | cahoot | motion is such a pkg |
| 15:32.34 | ttuttle|cingular | debeee: well, motion, and a properly-configured webcam |
| 15:32.48 | debeee | i got webcam working |
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| 15:33.32 | debeee | i guess i just need software to do motion capture video |
| 15:33.42 | cahoot | debeee: a bit slow? |
| 15:33.55 | cahoot | debeee: type aptitude show motion in a term |
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| 15:34.52 | debeee | ok |
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| 15:35.34 | pengwyn | anyone know /amnethist ? |
| 15:35.46 | pengwyn | or /amnethest |
| 15:36.01 | pengwyn | I just wanted to tell em thanks. Found a bad memory chip |
| 15:36.12 | pengwyn | memtest found it immediatly |
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| 15:36.47 | pengwyn | that box was driving me completely out of my mind ;o) |
| 15:36.49 | miguelanxo | Hi there! |
| 15:38.00 | miguelanxo | A coworked (that's currently converting from the windows world) has just asked if one can have VNC access to the X server 0 even before the session starts |
| 15:38.11 | debeee | now i got motion install, any quick exmple tip how to use motion? |
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| 15:38.33 | miguelanxo | I usually set up a different X server, but he wants to access the "normal" one, just like in windows |
| 15:38.34 | cahoot | debeee: it has really good documentation |
| 15:38.53 | debeee | the manpage? |
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| 15:39.08 | Douglas_E | Stew thanks lots for the help. I was totally stuck. |
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| 15:39.21 | miguelanxo | and I know, as the box is running gnome, that activating vino works after the user starts the session, but not before (say, in the gdm chooser)... |
| 15:39.41 | miguelanxo | what would you recommend? |
| 15:40.45 | cahoot | debeee: google linux webcam motion wiki |
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| 15:41.40 | debeee | thanks |
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| 15:43.29 | Sia0-0 | hi |
| 15:44.07 | Sia0-0 | mv * can't move dont empty directory |
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| 15:45.05 | Sia0-0 | how can mv all dirctory from their directory to another directory |
| 15:45.19 | abrotman | !grounding |
| 15:45.19 | dpkg | Before asking in here or on debian-user, you should read the install guide, or if you have already installed, the debian reference, the apt howto. Ask me about <ig>, <docs>, <manuals>, <reference>, <fundamentals>, <newbiedoc>, <refcard>, <faq>, <unix lessons>, <general cli tutorial>. (e.g. in your irc client, type /msg dpkg reference) |
| 15:46.14 | Sia0-0 | abrotman, i search ion google and search in man pages to |
| 15:46.26 | debeee | cat /etc/debian_version show "lenny/sid" is this a lenny or sid distro? |
| 15:46.36 | Sia0-0 | if can't answer plz let this info for your self |
| 15:46.44 | abrotman | debeee: could be either .. look at your sources.list |
| 15:46.55 | abrotman | Sia0-0: i can answer, but you should be able to read basic documentation |
| 15:47.00 | debeee | so i can use both repos |
| 15:47.04 | debeee | ok |
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| 15:47.19 | Sia0-0 | the basic have no about mv dont empty directory |
| 15:47.24 | stew | Sia0-0: its unclear what you are trying to do, ca you be more specific? |
| 15:47.28 | Sia0-0 | man pages and mv --help |
| 15:47.39 | Sia0-0 | aha stew srry |
| 15:47.44 | stew | Sia0-0: "mv dont empty directory" doesn't make sense |
| 15:48.11 | Sia0-0 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:48.32 | Sia0-0 | mv * do that but say the 20 dir from Maindir isn't empty |
| 15:48.48 | stew | Sia0-0: show us the exact command you typed and the exact output |
| 15:48.48 | debeee | abrothman, the default source.list show lenny |
| 15:48.58 | Sia0-0 | ok |
| 15:49.02 | abrotman | debeee: then you're on lenny, which is currently testing |
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| 15:49.19 | abrotman | debeee: hopefully to be released before the four horsemen show up |
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| 15:49.46 | abrotman | checks that Mayan Calendar |
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| 15:51.03 | Sia0-0 | stew, http://paste.debian.net/14738/ |
| 15:52.02 | stew | Sia0-0: the problem is that the user running this command doesn't have the permission to delete all of the directory entries |
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| 15:52.16 | stew | Sia0-0: that is at least how it appears to me |
| 15:52.42 | stew | Sia0-0: can you show us the output of "ls -l ACiD" |
| 15:53.00 | Sia0-0 | stew, but iam with root permission |
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| 15:53.45 | tommy | I messed up.. I messed up bad.. # cpan cpan> install Bundle::CPAN now my entire perl -environment is messed up.. is there a way to REINSTALL cpan/perl/whatever and make it ignore all changes I've made ? |
| 15:53.48 | stew | Sia0-0: yes, it is possible that root doesn't have permission to delete the files |
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| 15:54.07 | stew | tommy: why are you using cpan at all? |
| 15:54.14 | Sia0-0 | stew, http://paste.debian.net/14741/ |
| 15:54.39 | stew | Sia0-0: actually can you show the output of "ls -ld ACiD" |
| 15:55.16 | tommy | stew, I needed Net::SMTP::SSL didn't know of any other way of retrieving it |
| 15:55.23 | Sia0-0 | stew, http://paste.debian.net/14742/ |
| 15:55.56 | stew | tommy: have a look at the dh-make-perl package |
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| 15:56.50 | tommy | stew, nope, didn't know it existed :) |
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| 15:57.53 | stew | Sia0-0: is this on a readonly partition/mountpoint? |
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| 15:58.18 | Sia0-0 | ? |
| 15:59.24 | Hinata` | Hi when I try to run iceweasel in a terminal it do nothing but it work when I try it a root what should I do? ^^' |
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| 15:59.24 | Sia0-0 | stew, with cp * worked fine |
| 15:59.25 | Sia0-0 | and thanx for your help |
| 15:59.27 | Sia0-0 | abrotman, you to |
| 15:59.30 | stew | Sia0-0: show us the output of "mount" |
| 15:59.34 | Hinata` | oO |
| 15:59.35 | Sia0-0 | ok |
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| 15:59.42 | pumpkin0 | Hinata`: run it with "sudo". Root is a different user and cannot use your X-server just like that. |
| 16:00.08 | stew | Hinata`: is iceweasel already running? |
| 16:00.16 | Hinata` | pumpkin0: yes but how can I run it withough sudo? |
| 16:00.17 | pumpkin0 | Hinata`: yet better: do not run a browser as root ... |
| 16:00.18 | Sia0-0 | stew, http://paste.debian.net/14743/ |
| 16:00.20 | jetscreamer | did they change the default behavior? |
| 16:00.36 | Hinata` | stew: that was the first one I tried to run |
| 16:00.40 | Hinata` | it didn't work |
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| 16:00.52 | Hinata` | and than I tried with sudo and it worked ^^' |
| 16:00.56 | jetscreamer | Hinata`: ctrl alt f1 , alt f7 to get back |
| 16:01.26 | jetscreamer | nm... a browser? |
| 16:01.45 | Hinata` | ? |
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| 16:01.55 | jetscreamer | try chown hinata:hinata /home/hinata or something |
| 16:02.04 | jetscreamer | -R |
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| 16:02.18 | stew | Hinata`: check to make certain it isn't already running with ps, if it isn't try temporarily moving your $HOME/.mozilla directory and see if that fixes it |
| 16:02.57 | sysctl_____ | hey, i'm writing a bash scipt which automatically mounts and umounts fs's and webdav, umount works great, but mount hangs the bash script, even though it has mounted it, the script doesn't terminate |
| 16:02.58 | stew | Sia0-0: how about "ls -ld ." |
| 16:03.00 | Hinata` | oh that was stupid ^^' |
| 16:03.29 | Hinata` | just chown hinata:hinata -R .mozilla as root ^^' |
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| 16:04.09 | ttuttle|cingular | needs to stop running processes that spew lots of data over a cell connection. |
| 16:04.17 | ttuttle|cingular | They literally take minutes to kill with ^C. |
| 16:04.20 | Sia0-0 | stew, http://paste.debian.net/14745/ |
| 16:04.26 | Hinata` | thanks jetscreamer and stew and pumpkin0 ^^ |
| 16:04.45 | jetscreamer | i chown ~ -R every sooften just to make sure :) /usr/src also |
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| 16:05.06 | Hinata` | /usr/src is mine? |
| 16:05.20 | Hinata` | I should chown it too?? |
| 16:05.29 | jetscreamer | if you use it |
| 16:06.11 | jetscreamer | but don't messwithit if you don't know why |
| 16:06.25 | Sia0-0 | stew, http://paste.debian.net/14745/ |
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| 16:06.30 | jetscreamer | damn space bar |
| 16:06.36 | Hinata` | ok thank I won't mess with it ^^ |
| 16:06.46 | Hinata` | because actually I don't know why ^^ |
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| 16:06.48 | tq|Memphis | amsn-0.97RC1-1.tcl84.x86(2).package how can i install that? |
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| 16:06.58 | tq|Memphis | from terminal |
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| 16:07.27 | jetscreamer | Hinata`: mostly compile source heaers et al isthere |
| 16:07.29 | abrotman | tq|Memphis: what kind of package is it? |
| 16:07.32 | jetscreamer | headers |
| 16:07.42 | tq|Memphis | msn for linux |
| 16:07.58 | tq|Memphis | abrotman: actually i dont know how to install these packages |
| 16:08.05 | abrotman | tq|Memphis: in debian .. amsn is already packaged .. `aptitude install amsn` |
| 16:08.06 | pumpkin0 | tq|Memphis: run "file" on it. |
| 16:08.24 | abrotman | tq|Memphis: no reason to install random software from the intarweb |
| 16:08.35 | tq|Memphis | abrotman: ok |
| 16:08.46 | pbn | Hi, I'm trying to enable the "hibernate" feature in Debian lenny. I did "aptitude install hiberneate", I don't see a "hibernate" choice when I click the red button to shutdown the machine... any idea ? |
| 16:09.20 | stew | pbn: its /usr/sbin/hibernate |
| 16:09.42 | pbn | stew: ah ok, so I run that thing, and the machine hibernates ? |
| 16:09.48 | stew | pbn: yes |
| 16:09.48 | jetscreamer | pbn: i don't know but sounds like a dm config thing to me .. kdm or gdm, to have such a choice there |
| 16:09.56 | pbn | jetscreamer: it's kdm |
| 16:10.15 | zinx | pbn: your system has to support it as well |
| 16:10.19 | pbn | well it's KDE on Debian, basically |
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| 16:10.31 | pbn | zinx: I think it does, I have enough swap |
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| 16:10.41 | pbn | zinx: and ACPI is fine |
| 16:10.47 | zinx | pbn: you may try the uswsusp package |
| 16:11.06 | jetscreamer | there's 'probably' some kde hibernate config/control panel thing but i've no idea |
| 16:11.16 | pbn | but on, a hm, kubuntu 8.04 machine, when you click the red button you can choose "hibernate".... |
| 16:11.18 | zinx | pbn: cat /sys/power/state |
| 16:11.21 | jetscreamer | they have everything else |
| 16:11.37 | pbn | zinx: standby disk |
| 16:11.48 | jetscreamer | ~/.kde/something probably |
| 16:11.50 | zinx | pbn: i can choose hibernate in gnome here, on debian :x |
| 16:11.56 | pbn | perhaps it's some k* package to install, or something t o enable in kcontrol |
| 16:11.58 | jetscreamer | kdm config |
| 16:12.10 | jetscreamer | and mabe a helper |
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| 16:12.34 | zinx | pbn: may be some kdm config option, as jetscreamer mentioned |
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| 16:12.41 | jetscreamer | just diff the relevant configs on both machines |
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| 16:12.51 | zinx | pbn: and if you don't have shutdown either, you probably need to use kdm |
| 16:13.32 | jetscreamer | if you only see logout then gdm isthe default |
| 16:13.45 | jetscreamer | if you see >1 its 'probably' kdm |
| 16:14.03 | jetscreamer | (insert probably on gdm line also) |
| 16:14.22 | pbn | jetscreamer: well I did dpkg -l | less on ubuntu, trying to see some particular k* package |
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| 16:14.49 | jetscreamer | try |grep -i kde or so |
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| 16:15.09 | pbn | jetscreamer: did that too |
| 16:15.22 | jetscreamer | g'luck |
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| 16:15.28 | dylanB_UCD | hi |
| 16:15.37 | Sia0-0 | stew, http://paste.debian.net/14745/ look this |
| 16:15.55 | dylanB_UCD | I have an opteron machine, and would like to install an updated kernel... however I am running it in 32bit mode |
| 16:16.07 | stew | Sia0-0: yeah, i'm out of ideas |
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| 16:16.18 | dylanB_UCD | this looks like the latest: linux-image-2.6.22-3-k7 |
| 16:16.30 | Sia0-0 | stew, aha sorry i solve my problem wit cp * |
| 16:16.31 | stew | dylanB_UCD: use -686 instead of -k7 |
| 16:16.36 | Sia0-0 | thank you again |
| 16:16.48 | dylanB_UCD | stew, that will function too ? |
| 16:16.52 | stew | dylanB_UCD: yes |
| 16:17.03 | dylanB_UCD | linux-image-2.6.26-1-686 <--- ok, then i will use this one |
| 16:17.06 | stew | Sia0-0: yeah, cp and mv doesn'e works becuase the directories can seemingly be read but not written |
| 16:17.31 | Sia0-0 | yes |
| 16:17.33 | dylanB_UCD | stew, what proc is the k7 kernel for |
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| 16:18.19 | stew | dylanB_UCD: athlon, duron, thunderbird, sempron, opteron, etc, but it is no longer built |
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| 16:19.06 | pbn | perhaps this package: kde-guidance-powermanager |
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| 16:19.35 | dylanB_UCD | ok... thanks! |
| 16:19.45 | pbn | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:19.48 | pbn | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:19.50 | pbn | might be that one |
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| 16:22.06 | taxman | so does anybody know if linux can mount and work with Solaris disc partitions and files on a Sparc platform? |
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| 16:23.00 | jelly-home | taxman: it can. |
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| 16:23.40 | jelly-home | taxman: UFS support is there, at least read-only. ZFS isn't there |
| 16:24.51 | taxman | I'd assume it's ZFS since that's the default for Solaris installs isn't it? |
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| 16:25.47 | taxman | eh who knows, this was Solaris 2.5.1 on the box I have |
| 16:25.59 | jelly-home | taxman: zfs didn't exist in '95 |
| 16:26.16 | pbn | well zfs isn't much used on Solaris |
| 16:26.20 | pbn | or well, depends who |
| 16:26.21 | jelly-home | and it's _not_ the default even in solaris 10 |
| 16:26.26 | Peanut | No, zfs isn't the default for Solaris installs yet, not even in 10 |
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| 16:26.34 | Peanut | Probably not even in OpenSolaris yet |
| 16:28.26 | taxman | jelly-home: good to know |
| 16:28.46 | taxman | though I haven't gotten a successful full boot yet, so we'll see |
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| 16:29.54 | jelly-home | taxman: what hardware is this? |
| 16:30.25 | taxman | an Ultra 1 |
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| 16:31.21 | jelly-home | taxman: hm, sarge or etch ought to boot. read the release notes for sparc, there might be something useful |
| 16:31.32 | taxman | gnustep drops me to busybox, which I would consider somewhat of a success |
| 16:32.07 | taxman | well, what I really need to do is take the plunge and set up netbooting, but I've never done it so I'm a bit retiscent |
| 16:32.27 | taxman | short of that I'm trying livecd's in order to get a useable system and it hasn't worked so far |
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| 16:33.53 | jelly-home | taxman: you could also try asking with a specific installer issue on the debian-sparc list |
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| 16:34.26 | jelly-home | since etch supports sparc64, it presumably ought to work on an U1 |
| 16:34.42 | taxman | yeah, I'll try that perhaps. Right now I don't want to install until I can find out what's on the hardware already though |
| 16:34.51 | taxman | hence why I'm trying the livecd route |
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| 16:36.00 | bmw13cool | How do I add a new user |
| 16:36.11 | SpeedyG | adduser ? |
| 16:36.34 | tq|Memphis | is there any other msns for linux? |
| 16:36.51 | tq|Memphis | i can not log on with amsn |
| 16:36.57 | SpeedyG | pidgin |
| 16:37.02 | bmw13cool | bash: adduser: command not found |
| 16:37.12 | tq|Memphis | debian suports it? |
| 16:37.20 | SpeedyG | tq|Memphis: as far as I know, it does |
| 16:37.32 | SpeedyG | bmw13cool: are you root ? |
| 16:38.30 | bmw13cool | thanks |
| 16:39.01 | tq|Memphis | SpeedyG: nah it doesnt :( |
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| 16:39.57 | SpeedyG | tq|Memphis: are you using etch? or lenny/sid? |
| 16:40.13 | tq|Memphis | etch |
| 16:40.29 | avu | tq|Memphis, then it's called gaim |
| 16:40.39 | avu | tq|Memphis, pidgin is in the backports thogh |
| 16:40.39 | SpeedyG | what avu says :) |
| 16:41.20 | tq|Memphis | oh oke : |
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| 16:41.32 | avu | as msn clients go, there's also kopete |
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| 16:42.16 | kaffien | anyone here familiar with the unified linux launcher app? |
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| 16:42.52 | kaffien | i keep getting a ./configure error you need to install gtk-sharp-2.0. however apt-get install gtk-sharp2 is clearly installed |
| 16:42.56 | SpeedyG | !anyone |
| 16:42.57 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls>, or <search> |
| 16:43.22 | pengwyn | kaffien tried running ldconfig ? |
| 16:43.40 | Vi^3PP | i have a new install for a server iwant to put up.. i used the lenny installer and chose the web server, mail server, mysql options but php does not appear to be working... how do i get it to work.. the only mods i have made were to adjust the ports.conf file to 8080 from 80 |
| 16:43.41 | kaffien | no i have not but i have rebooted does that not run ldconfig? |
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| 16:44.00 | pengwyn | try sudo ldconfig |
| 16:44.10 | Vi^3PP | i have a test hello.php file with the phpinfo() and it says its not on the server |
| 16:44.32 | kaffien | negative |
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| 16:44.56 | stew | ldconfig is for the runtime linker, not the compile-time linker |
| 16:45.00 | stew | kaffien: what are you trying to compile? |
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| 16:45.11 | SpeedyG | Vi^3PP: is php installed? |
| 16:45.14 | stew | kaffien: likely you need a -dev package, or some other package from the gtk-sharp2 source pacakge |
| 16:45.19 | Vi^3PP | yep sure is |
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| 16:45.31 | Vi^3PP | gm SpeedyG |
| 16:45.39 | SpeedyG | Vi^3PP: is it enabled? (look in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/ |
| 16:45.40 | n-iCe | hi |
| 16:45.44 | stew | Vi^3PP: it says what is not on the server? |
| 16:45.50 | kaffien | ok, makes sence .. i get blocked packages when i attempt that |
| 16:45.50 | Vi^3PP | my file |
| 16:46.16 | stew | Vi^3PP: look at the apache error log and see where it thinks the file should be on the fileysstem |
| 16:46.25 | Vi^3PP | SpeedyG, yes the mods are enabled and the library file is there |
| 16:47.50 | Vi^3PP | [Thu Aug 14 09:11:18 2008] [error] [client 127.0.1.1] File does not exist: /htdocs |
| 16:47.50 | Vi^3PP | [Thu Aug 14 09:11:25 2008] [error] [client ::1] File does not exist: /htdocs |
| 16:48.11 | pengwyn | \amethyst: THANKS! I found a bad memory stick in memtest bro!! |
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| 16:49.18 | hellues | hey |
| 16:49.30 | hellues | are there a way to work quake2 on debian |
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| 16:51.26 | daemonmidi | hellues: dselect and search for quake |
| 16:51.36 | justin | dselect? |
| 16:52.23 | Vi^3PP | stew, SpeedyG ???? |
| 16:52.35 | kaffien | your guys are going to looooove this one |
| 16:53.00 | kaffien | cannot find gtk-sharp-2.0 please install it = install pkg-config |
| 16:53.09 | kaffien | bangs head on desk |
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| 16:53.17 | kaffien | have a nice day! |
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| 16:53.51 | stew | Vi^3PP: so you have configured apache to have its DocumentRoot in /htdocs, which is a non-existant entry |
| 16:53.55 | sysctl_____ | anyone have any ideas why the `mount` command specifically would hang my bash script, when if you replace for anything else, like `cat /etc/hosts` it works fine? http://pastebin.com/m283e74c1 |
| 16:54.11 | Vi^3PP | stew, this is a fresh install.. i placed my file in /var/www |
| 16:54.14 | cowbud | is there a way to tell when a deb was installed? |
| 16:54.30 | Vi^3PP | i have only made one mod to change the ports |
| 16:54.36 | stew | Vi^3PP: yes, but your apache has been reconfigured to look in /htdocs, not /var/www |
| 16:54.46 | Vi^3PP | so were do i change that |
| 16:54.50 | Vi^3PP | apache2.conf? |
| 16:54.52 | stew | Vi^3PP: is this apache or apache2? |
| 16:55.01 | Vi^3PP | lennny apache2 |
| 16:55.10 | stew | Vi^3PP: no, don't edit apache2.conf, make the changes in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled |
| 16:55.36 | stew | cowbud: you can check /var/log/dpkg.log if it was recent, otherwise, perhaps look at the times on the files in /var/lib/dpkg/info |
| 16:55.47 | cowbud | stew: damn good call I forgot about dpkg.log |
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| 16:58.05 | Vi^3PP | stew, there it goes i had to change the port in 000-default... the root dir was /var/www |
| 16:58.09 | Vi^3PP | now the script works :) |
| 16:58.17 | muddd | what do i need to take a screenshot in xfce4 for debian? |
| 16:58.24 | sysctl_____ | anyone have any ideas why the `mount` command specifically would hang my bash script, when if you replace for anything else, like `cat /etc/hosts` it works fine? http://pastebin.com/m283e74c1 |
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| 16:58.29 | Vi^3PP | stew, ty:) i appreciate it |
| 16:59.53 | blubbi | hi all, is there a way to tell the debian setup to use dhcp for network configuration? (I am installing debian in virtualbox, and IMHO VirtualBox provides a DHCP server when you choose NAT for networking) |
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| 17:00.44 | simonrvn | muddd: there's a plugin for that panel for it, or you could use some command line thingy like scrot |
| 17:01.13 | muddd | ah that'll do |
| 17:01.16 | muddd | ty simonrvn |
| 17:01.52 | hoxu | blubbi, doesn't it by default? |
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| 17:02.11 | blubbi | it asked me for IP and so on... |
| 17:02.23 | hoxu | then I would guess it failed to get one by DHCP |
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| 17:03.19 | blubbi | mmh, thats weird |
| 17:03.24 | Dominicus | I'm considering switching to Debian. And I have a question that I was hoping other Debian users might be able to help me with. Seeing as how some packages store libraries in different folders. I'm trying to build PHP on a Debian system, and it's not finding the kerberos libraries. Does anyone have any knowledge of where they would be installed on Debian, and how to go about verifying that... |
| 17:03.26 | Dominicus | ...kerberos is even installed? This is a web host that I'm on, so I do not have root. =( |
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| 17:03.40 | blubbi | XP worked, knoppix worked, gentoo worked... |
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| 17:04.08 | JordiGH | Dominicus: Dreamhost? |
| 17:04.20 | blubbi | mmh, lets try another Adater type |
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| 17:04.42 | Dominicus | JordiGH: ROFL... That's some damned good guess. |
| 17:04.55 | Dominicus | JordiGH: I.E.... Yes DreamHost. |
| 17:05.12 | JordiGH | Dominicus: They're good. I have some stuff hosted with them too. I've never built PHP, though. |
| 17:05.38 | stew | Dominicus: kerberos would not be installed by default, why would you build php yourself instead of using the php compiled by debian? |
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| 17:06.12 | JordiGH | stew: Because he doesn't have root on that machine, he said. |
| 17:06.25 | hoxu | Dominicus, it's not always a guess, expect some people here to be able to read your mind ;) |
| 17:07.22 | Dominicus | stew: Because, the php that DreamHost provides is missing "--enable-zip", so when I upload a zip file, I can't read the internal contents. So, the only other option is to do a custom php build in my client's home folder. And, they lovingly say "blah blah don't support custom php installs", or something like that. |
| 17:07.36 | blubbi | are there any boot parameters which could controll the "Use DHCP on setup" behavior? |
| 17:07.55 | JordiGH | Dominicus: One hint is that you can see what the build process complains and then look for that file in packages.debian.org, which will tell you what packages have that file, and also gives you the path to the file. If it's installed at all, this is how you will find it. |
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| 17:08.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | Dominicus, I would try "apt-cache search kerberos" to find out which package provides it (gives a too long list, though), then/or you can check for installed packages with dpkg -l ; or e.g. dpkg -l start-of-pkgname\* |
| 17:08.04 | JordiGH | Dreamhost is still on sarge, though, isn't it? :-/ |
| 17:08.09 | hoxu | blubbi, as far as I know, the installer tries DHCP by default |
| 17:08.18 | blubbi | mpf |
| 17:08.20 | jaalto | Is there any command to show where a copy of hardlined file is. My inode shows "2", but I have no idea where is the other one |
| 17:08.34 | JordiGH | wonders if upgrading sarge -> lenny will be possible. |
| 17:08.36 | hoxu | blubbi, does networking work on your other virtual machines? |
| 17:09.02 | stew | Dominicus: so dreamhost installs a cusom php instead of using the one from debian? |
| 17:09.06 | Dominicus | JordiGH: I have an account on Debian 3.1 32-bit, and my client has an account on Debian 4.0 64-bit. |
| 17:09.09 | blubbi | hoxu: jupp, XP works nice, gentoo does, Windows 3.11 ;-) does |
| 17:09.31 | hoxu | jaalto, no doubt but I don't remember a proper way now... you could use "fdupes --hardlinks" though ;) |
| 17:09.56 | JordiGH | Dominicus: And on which machine are you trying to build PHP? |
| 17:10.06 | Dominicus | stew: I'm not sure whether they use a php binary install from Debian, or if they custom install it for their needs. |
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| 17:10.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | jaalto, I think not... it's a thing I've also wondered about |
| 17:10.48 | JordiGH | I get the feeling that dreamhost does a bit of modification to its files. IIRC, its a |
| 17:10.54 | JordiGH | Apache installation was nonstandard. |
| 17:11.30 | Dominicus | JordiGH: Quite frankly, both. Just to be able to see issues between the two OS versions, and if I try a compile build on one server, and another slightly different compile build on another server, I get to test things out at twice the pace. =) |
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| 17:11.39 | skyn3t | sup peepz |
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| 17:11.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | uh, the "hardlink" factoid is one of the most useless ones :( |
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| 17:12.08 | JordiGH | Dominicus: I'm guessing it's gonna be easier to compile on 4.0 |
| 17:12.11 | JordiGH | CutMeOwnThroat: So change it. |
| 17:12.36 | JordiGH | dpkg, no, hardlink is whatever CutMeOwnThroat is about to tell us it is. |
| 17:12.36 | dpkg | JordiGH: okay |
| 17:12.40 | skyn3t | i need some help tp isntyall mysql in Debian 4.0 |
| 17:12.44 | JordiGH | !hardlink |
| 17:12.45 | dpkg | hmm... hardlink is whatever CutMeOwnThroat is about to tell us it is. |
| 17:12.45 | hoxu | jaalto, a faster way with a small amount of hardlinks could be `find -printf "%n %f\n" |grep ^2' or something like that (CutMeOwnThroat) |
| 17:12.46 | tommy | how do you list installed packages using apt-get/apt-cache ? |
| 17:12.48 | skyn3t | install* |
| 17:12.52 | Dominicus | JordiGH: It's the same script. I just run it on both. =) And see if one happens to do more than the other, and advance from there. =) |
| 17:12.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | JordiGH, yes, when we come up with a way to find two different hardlinked files... |
| 17:13.08 | stew | skyn3t: aptitude install mysql-server |
| 17:13.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | JordiGH, that's not more useful, though |
| 17:13.32 | hoxu | jaalto, oops, "%p", not "%f" ;) |
| 17:13.33 | JordiGH | CutMeOwnThroat: Just tell the friendly bot what you really think. |
| 17:13.35 | skyn3t | done |
| 17:13.37 | abrotman | tommy: /msg dpkg installed |
| 17:13.39 | skyn3t | :) |
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| 17:13.50 | JordiGH | dpkg, no, hardlink is like an adamant softlink. |
| 17:13.51 | dpkg | okay, JordiGH |
| 17:13.57 | JordiGH | !hardlink |
| 17:13.58 | dpkg | it has been said that hardlink is like an adamant softlink. |
| 17:14.06 | skyn3t | stew can i pm you |
| 17:14.23 | hoxu | JordiGH, so, what was the old content of the "hardlink" factoid? |
| 17:14.29 | stew | skyn3t: if you have questions about debian or mysql-server, it is better to ask here |
| 17:14.39 | JordiGH | hoxu: "hardlink is probably just another directory entry on" |
| 17:14.47 | hoxu | uh-huh |
| 17:14.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | yes |
| 17:14.55 | JordiGH | hoxu: It was cut off. |
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| 17:14.57 | skyn3t | cuz ima try to run torrentflux on my Dedi server and i got stuck in some steps |
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| 17:15.52 | JordiGH | Quite frankly, I'm kinda confused myself what a hardlink is or why you would want it. I get the feeling that a hardlink is two references to the same file, and if either reference gets deleted, the actual file gets deleted. |
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| 17:16.28 | skyn3t | like * Database error: Table 'sky4.tf_settings' doesn't exist * |
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| 17:16.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | jaalto, http://erik.thauvin.net/wiki/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=67 |
| 17:17.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | jaalto, this also just uses a find on the inode |
| 17:17.11 | hoxu | !hardlink |
| 17:17.11 | dpkg | i guess hardlink is simply put a pointer to the contents of a file. Normal files have hardlink count of 1, and when they are hardlinked elsewhere the count is incremented. Thus, a file may have multiple names but the content is only stored once. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_link |
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| 17:17.17 | stew | skyn3t: check /usr/share/doc/torrentflux for a README.Debian about how to create the database tables |
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| 17:17.31 | pengwyn | skyn3t your tables are missing. |
| 17:17.39 | hoxu | JordiGH, does that clear it up? |
| 17:17.44 | skyn3t | i dont know hopw to creat that |
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| 17:18.11 | JordiGH | hoxu: Yeah, thanks. |
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| 17:18.29 | JordiGH | hoxu: Why would you want one, though? It seems to violate some cherished metaphors. |
| 17:18.34 | stew | JordiGH: if you have a file with 2 hardlinks, it doesn't get deleted until both are gone |
| 17:18.46 | Pete_B | Using Debian Testing, GNOME; I'm in the plugdev group but hotplugged media doesn't auto mount. What can I do to make it do so please? |
| 17:18.48 | JordiGH | Why would I prefer a hardlink to a softlink? |
| 17:18.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | hoxu, but every directory entry is a pointer :) |
| 17:19.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm |
| 17:19.12 | hoxu | JordiGH, there are legitimate cases when you need them, if you are in doubt you probably don't |
| 17:19.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | I see |
| 17:19.13 | pengwyn | skyn3t http://62.147.165.84/cgi-bin/dwww/usr/share/doc/torrentflux/README.Debian |
| 17:19.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | JordiGH, e.g. if you are called "mv" |
| 17:19.47 | stew | JordiGH: my backup system uses hardlinks so that i can have daily backups, and i can cd into the backup and get a full tree of actual files, but when two files from two different days have the same contents, they two files are hardlinked so that both files are actually pointing to the same location on disk, so it doesn't use double the space |
| 17:19.49 | skyn3t | pengwyn : thank you |
| 17:19.55 | stew | JordiGH: (as an example use-case) |
| 17:20.07 | pengwyn | thank stew.. o) |
| 17:20.08 | hoxu | hardlinks are most useful on readonly files, or when your tools support breaking the link before saving any changes |
| 17:20.10 | psycodad_ | stew: backuppc rulez ;) |
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| 17:20.21 | jaalto | hoxy: Nothing new. But is there a utility to trace those? |
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| 17:20.34 | JordiGH | stew: Wow, that's interesting. You coded this yourself? |
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| 17:20.39 | hoxu | jaalto, trace what? |
| 17:20.41 | stew | JordiGH: no, i'm using dirvish |
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| 17:20.52 | stew | JordiGH: but backuppc does something similar |
| 17:20.52 | fisxoj | does anyone know of a program for annotating PDFs? |
| 17:20.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | JordiGH, and he can erase one tree without losing content on another - a softlink would just not do |
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| 17:21.07 | skyn3t | skyn3t : ima doing everything by SSH |
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| 17:21.09 | stew | JordiGH: and so i can delete an old tree if I want and not worry about losing data from newer trees |
| 17:21.15 | skyn3t | kinda lost here |
| 17:21.29 | skyn3t | and here is manualy |
| 17:21.29 | JordiGH | fisxoj: There isn't an easy way to do it. pdftk can sorta do it, and there is a program that will annotate postscript, so you can convert to ps, annotate, convert back to pdf. |
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| 17:22.08 | stew | skyn3t: did you read /usr/share/doc/torrentflux/README.Debian ? |
| 17:22.22 | jaalto | CutMeOwnThroat: Just the page doctor ordered. Thanks |
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| 17:23.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | jaalto, but in effect means "there is no way", except to search all over the filesystem |
| 17:23.52 | pengwyn | skyn3t hint: apt-cache search dbconfig-common and also look for your mysql.gz |
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| 17:24.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | stew, what's the backup-sw you use called? I remember using a very similar thing, but gave up on it after a while |
| 17:24.28 | skyn3t | dbconfig-common - common framework for packaging database applications |
| 17:24.35 | stew | CutMeOwnThroat: i use dirvish |
| 17:24.54 | pengwyn | skyn3t: is it installed? |
| 17:24.55 | n-iCe | any speech recognition? |
| 17:24.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, doesnt ring a bell :( |
| 17:25.02 | n-iCe | can't find a good one |
| 17:25.04 | skyn3t | yes |
| 17:25.05 | JordiGH | Yeah, PDF forms still don't work in Debian, do they? |
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| 17:25.30 | skyn3t | the thing is i dont know how to create DB table by using ssh |
| 17:25.34 | jaalto | CutMeOwnThroat: Yes, but I can select few good candidates for find. It'll work. |
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| 17:26.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | stew, ah, feared my memory was going... rsnapshot was what I had used |
| 17:26.42 | skyn3t | i cannot pass trought this step here |
| 17:26.43 | skyn3t | mysqladmin -u root password "$MYSQL_PWD" |
| 17:26.55 | elik_ | I'm having issues with an unconnected port slow to respond, see http://pastebin.ca/1170987 for an excerpt of my dmesg |
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| 17:27.02 | skyn3t | mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed |
| 17:27.02 | skyn3t | error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)' |
| 17:27.18 | pengwyn | % /usr/local/nf/bin/mysql --force --quick -h mysqlhost -u Username -pPassword DatabaseUD tablename < tables.sql (if your .gz your compressed open it first) |
| 17:27.56 | jaalto | skyn3t: use -p<PASS> without space |
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| 17:29.07 | skyn3t | DatabaseUD *tablename* any name ? |
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| 17:31.36 | skyn3t | . /usr/local/nf/bin/mysql: No such file or directory |
| 17:31.40 | stew | skyn3t: torrentflux should have given you the option of setting up the database for you using dbconfig-common |
| 17:31.54 | pengwyn | sorry skyn3t your path is different |
| 17:31.56 | stew | skyn3t: "dpkg-recofnigure torrentflux" should present that option again |
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| 17:32.08 | Pete_B | Using Debian Testing, GNOME; I'm in the plugdev group but hotplugged media doesn't auto mount. What can I do to make it do so please? |
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| 17:32.28 | skyn3t | damn thing |
| 17:32.33 | stew | Pete_B: is gnome-volume-manager installed? |
| 17:32.38 | skyn3t | ima having hard time to setup this |
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| 17:32.50 | stew | skyn3t: have you tried "dpkg-reconfigure torrentflux"? |
| 17:33.02 | elik_ | I'm having issues with an unconnected port slow to respond at startup, see http://pastebin.ca/1170987 for an excerpt of my dmesg |
| 17:33.04 | svearike | how would I go about to install this packet in a 'debian friendly' way ? Net/SMTP/SSL.pm |
| 17:33.05 | Pete_B | stew: yes (it's a default install) |
| 17:33.24 | stew | svearike: /msg dpkg dh-make-perl |
| 17:33.41 | skyn3t | Package `torrentflux' is not installed and no info is available. |
| 17:33.41 | skyn3t | Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files, |
| 17:33.41 | skyn3t | and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents. |
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| 17:33.53 | stew | skyn3t: oh, how did you install torrentflux? |
| 17:34.09 | skyn3t | ssh |
| 17:34.18 | skyn3t | you want try |
| 17:34.24 | skyn3t | i can give you axx |
| 17:34.30 | svearike | stew, hm, I see. how do you actually find the cpan-urls then ? :) |
| 17:35.10 | stew | svearike: dh-make-perl finds them for you |
| 17:35.22 | stew | skyn3t: don't give out ssh access to people you dont' know |
| 17:35.24 | svearike | oh |
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| 17:35.27 | stew | skyn3t: what version of debian are you running? |
| 17:35.34 | skyn3t | 4.0 |
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| 17:35.51 | skyn3t | Etch |
| 17:36.26 | stew | skyn3t: you could backport the torrentflux package: "/msg dpkg ssb". if you want to install it by hand, you should be following the INSTALL file that comes with torrentflux |
| 17:37.03 | stew | skyn3t: "mysqladmin -u root password "$MYSQL_PWD"" should just be "mysqladmin -u root -p" which will prompt you for a password |
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| 17:40.12 | ezguy | apt-get update gives me this error: GPG error: http://www.debian-multimedia.org lenny Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907 |
| 17:40.15 | ezguy | any ideas? |
| 17:40.19 | skyn3t | ima going to re-install my OS again |
| 17:40.28 | elik_ | ezguy, yeah |
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| 17:40.33 | skyn3t | cuz this looks like something its very wrong |
| 17:40.36 | ezguy | how can i fix this? |
| 17:40.38 | ribnitz | Heyas... |
| 17:40.40 | elik_ | ezguy, read the faq on debian-multimedia |
| 17:40.48 | elik_ | ezguy, first question |
| 17:40.49 | pengwyn | skyn3t: sorry I couldn't help |
| 17:40.49 | ezguy | nope |
| 17:40.51 | skyn3t | its gonna take like 15 mints |
| 17:40.55 | skyn3t | no prob man |
| 17:40.56 | ribnitz | what should I think of bug 467421? |
| 17:40.58 | ezguy | let me see |
| 17:41.00 | skyn3t | you did you best |
| 17:41.08 | skyn3t | and thanks all |
| 17:41.10 | elik_ | ezguy, something about installing debian-multimedia-keyring |
| 17:41.11 | pengwyn | Usuallly I do a command |
| 17:41.17 | devhell | ezguy: apt-get install debian-multimedia-keyring or something like that.. then do update again.. |
| 17:41.21 | ribnitz | alsa-source FTBFS: timer.c |
| 17:41.22 | Pete_B | stew: I've tried dpkg-reconfigure gnome-volume-manager, dbus and udev and still no auto-mount of USB-attached disks |
| 17:41.32 | pengwyn | and it ends up with a < mysql.sql (at the end of it) |
| 17:41.37 | skyn3t | ok |
| 17:41.41 | ribnitz | how do I get a working alsa for my kernel? |
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| 17:41.54 | ezguy | got it |
| 17:41.55 | pengwyn | piping the tables into the database |
| 17:42.02 | elik_ | ezguy, ;) |
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| 17:42.15 | stew | Pete_B: sorry, i don't know much about gnome-volume-manager |
| 17:42.36 | Pete_B | stew: ok, thanks anyway |
| 17:42.40 | skyn3t | pengwyn : i had follow this gruide here http://tech-newbie.blogspot.com/2008/05/installing-torrentflux-b4rt-on.html |
| 17:42.43 | elik_ | I'm having issues with an unconnected port slow to respond at startup, see http://pastebin.ca/1170987 for an excerpt of my dmesg |
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| 17:42.58 | skyn3t | but no locky |
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| 17:43.12 | stew | skyn3t: have you tried following the INSTALL file that comes with torrentflux? |
| 17:43.23 | Supaplex | dpkg: test |
| 17:43.24 | dpkg | Test Failed. |
| 17:43.35 | skyn3t | ya |
| 17:43.54 | skyn3t | b4 anything i need thos packs first |
| 17:44.05 | stew | skyn3t: you need what? |
| 17:44.17 | skyn3t | apt-get install apache2 php5 php5-mysql mysql-server php5-cgi |
| 17:44.32 | skyn3t | all this |
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| 17:44.57 | stew | skyn3t: ok, and are you having a problem with that command? |
| 17:45.48 | skyn3t | ya |
| 17:45.58 | skyn3t | i cannot pass trought this step here |
| 17:45.58 | skyn3t | What's echoed should be what you put in above. Next, we tell MySQL what password to use. |
| 17:45.58 | skyn3t | mysqladmin -u root password "$MYSQL_PWD" |
| 17:46.26 | stew | skyn3t: when you install mysql-server, did you set a root password? |
| 17:46.42 | Supaplex | or is it -P ? |
| 17:46.57 | skyn3t | MYSQL_PWD=putapasswordhere (I strongly suggest not using your machine's root password) |
| 17:46.59 | skyn3t | ya |
| 17:47.05 | skyn3t | first thing |
| 17:47.06 | pengwyn | skyn3t: that looked pretty good there (your url) except I don't see it adding tables anywhere. |
| 17:47.24 | stew | skyn3t: if you set the password already, you don't need to set it again |
| 17:47.27 | skyn3t | that's what i need |
| 17:47.47 | stew | skyn3t: and if you set it already and you are trying to change it, you'll have to add -p to that command so that it prompts you for your old password |
| 17:47.57 | pengwyn | http://ipofyourbox/torrentflux/ |
| 17:47.58 | pengwyn | (I am guesing this has the script to install the database) |
| 17:48.24 | skyn3t | hang on |
| 17:49.11 | pengwyn | http://ipofyourbox/torrentflux/setup.php (even) |
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| 17:49.50 | skyn3t | ima gonna have my OS installation done in 10 min |
| 17:49.54 | ribnitz | exit |
| 17:50.19 | elik_ | I'm having issues with an unconnected port slow to respond at startup, see http://pastebin.ca/1170987 for an excerpt of my dmesg |
| 17:51.08 | pengwyn | skyn3t for kicks point a browser at http://ipofyourbox/torrentflux/setup.php |
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| 17:51.17 | pengwyn | (before you reinstall) |
| 17:51.29 | skyn3t | i already start |
| 17:51.32 | skyn3t | :( |
| 17:51.57 | pengwyn | you restarted apache after the changes? |
| 17:52.04 | stew | skyn3t: i'd recommend that you use the debian package of torrentflux, which would setup your database for you. it can be simply backported from testing/unstable: /msg dpkg ssb |
| 17:52.29 | pengwyn | go with stew. |
| 17:52.34 | pengwyn | I'm out. |
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| 17:52.49 | wl_con | hi all |
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| 17:53.49 | skyn3t | wow you guys have a great b0t |
| 17:53.51 | skyn3t | :) |
| 17:53.58 | skyn3t | A.I |
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| 17:56.37 | hoxu | yes, it can also feed comcast trolls with RSTs. |
| 17:57.04 | skyn3t | here |
| 17:57.05 | skyn3t | Setting up build-essential (11.3) ... |
| 17:57.05 | skyn3t | Reading package lists... Done |
| 17:57.05 | skyn3t | Building dependency tree... Done |
| 17:57.05 | skyn3t | entaro Unable to find a source package for packagename |
| 17:57.05 | skyn3t | Reading package lists... Done |
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| 17:57.11 | elik_ | lol |
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| 17:57.17 | skyn3t | sorry |
| 17:57.18 | elik_ | !pastebin |
| 17:57.19 | dpkg | Please don't paste anything into the channel; use a paste site instead, like: http://paste.lisp.org, http://rafb.net/paste/, http://pastebin.ca/, http://picpaste.com for pics. --- Also ask me: <pastebin pipe> |
| 17:57.20 | skyn3t | damn lines |
| 17:57.32 | skyn3t | after this command here |
| 17:57.44 | skyn3t | apt-get install build-essential; apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename; |
| 17:58.30 | stew | skyn3t: you are support to actually substitude "torrentflux" where those commands says "packagename" |
| 17:58.39 | stew | *substitute |
| 17:58.52 | elik_ | I'm having issues with an unconnected port slow to respond at startup, see http://pastebin.ca/1170987 for an excerpt of my dmesg |
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| 18:01.04 | raptelan|bepress | how can I use apt/dpkg to purge an already-removed package's leftover configuration? |
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| 18:01.52 | JordiGH | Yay, gnash works. Hope it ships with lenny. |
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| 18:02.24 | abrotman | raptelan|bepress: man dpkg |
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| 18:03.18 | elik_ | abrotman, could you please take a look at http://pastebin.ca/1170987 and tell me if you know anything I could do to fix that |
| 18:04.06 | raptelan|bepress | abrotman: I already see --purge, but I don't think that will work, since the deb was custom and has been deleted |
| 18:04.28 | abrotman | raptelan|bepress: try it? |
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| 18:04.36 | raptelan|bepress | try it how? |
| 18:04.39 | raptelan|bepress | I have no deb file to pass as argument |
| 18:04.48 | abrotman | elik_: get a new drive? |
| 18:04.55 | abrotman | raptelan|bepress: dpkg -l <pkgname> .. what's the status ? |
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| 18:05.07 | elik_ | abrotman, well, the thing is, I'm 90% I have nothing on that port |
| 18:05.28 | abrotman | elik_: you have no sdb ? |
| 18:05.39 | abrotman | it says there is a scsi disk attached |
| 18:05.48 | elik_ | abrotman, I have 2 drives: my hd, which is working on sda, and my cdrom on sdc |
| 18:06.12 | abrotman | looks like sdc is your HDD |
| 18:06.18 | elik_ | hum |
| 18:06.20 | abrotman | a 32GB drive? |
| 18:06.21 | raptelan|bepress | abrotman: sorry I was confused, thought dpkg required a <deb file> rather than <pkgname> |
| 18:06.25 | abrotman | 30GB or so ? |
| 18:06.35 | elik_ | abrotman, more like 500 |
| 18:06.44 | abrotman | [ 20.092216] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdc] 625142448 512-byte hardware sectors (320073 MB) |
| 18:06.49 | abrotman | oh .. 320GB :) |
| 18:06.51 | abrotman | i can't read |
| 18:06.57 | abrotman | blames the chinese food |
| 18:07.06 | elik_ | abrotman, oh, that would be my usb attached drive then... |
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| 18:07.20 | abrotman | elik_: so you do have something attached there! |
| 18:07.26 | Benzi | can anyone help me get electricsheep working with twinview? |
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| 18:07.33 | elik_ | abrotman, thought sd* was only for sata drives |
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| 18:07.40 | elik_ | abrotman, and hd* for ata |
| 18:07.48 | abrotman | so where did USB fit in that? |
| 18:07.51 | abrotman | ud* ? |
| 18:08.26 | elik_ | abrotman, my 320GB drive is an external usb drive |
| 18:09.10 | abrotman | unplug it .. do errors go away? |
| 18:09.59 | elik_ | abrotman, lemme see... but the drive is perfectly functionnal |
| 18:11.00 | elik_ | abrotman, when I disconnect it, I get usb 5-4: USB disconnect, address 4 in dmesg |
| 18:11.15 | elik_ | abrotman, with other usb devices, I had more crap, like what dev it was bound to |
| 18:12.08 | abrotman | elik_: i didn't say it was the solution .. but it seems like the USB drive is causing issues |
| 18:12.14 | abrotman | or has an issue itself |
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| 18:12.24 | abrotman | try turning the power up to 11 |
| 18:13.01 | elik_ | abrotman, just plugged it back in: sd 5:0:0:0: [sdc] 625142448 512-byte hardware sectors (320073 MB) |
| 18:13.06 | php6th | help! i've setup a bridge interface to use with virtualbox, but now every 5 minutes the eth0 gets disconected, how can i fix it? |
| 18:13.20 | elik_ | abrotman, so it seems that my hd is sdc |
| 18:13.23 | abrotman | elik_: now see if those messages come back |
| 18:13.43 | elik_ | abrotman, so I unplug it and restart to see if it's still there? |
| 18:13.49 | abrotman | sdc is 320GB |
| 18:13.54 | elik_ | yeah |
| 18:14.04 | elik_ | that's my usb hard drive |
| 18:14.14 | abrotman | you just said your HDD was sdc |
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| 18:14.29 | abrotman | laggy! |
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| 18:15.24 | php6th | alo? |
| 18:15.29 | elik_ | abrotman, one thing is sure, sda is my internal hard drive |
| 18:15.42 | skyn3t | back |
| 18:15.45 | abrotman | how many drives do you have?! |
| 18:15.55 | akio | where would i find linux-headers-2.6.25-2-686? |
| 18:15.55 | elik_ | abrotman, 2 hd 1 cd |
| 18:15.58 | abrotman | php6th: i'd suspect some other network manager is doing it |
| 18:16.04 | abrotman | akio: apt-cache search linux-headeres |
| 18:16.11 | abrotman | elik_: and another USB drive |
| 18:16.12 | akio | it isn't in there |
| 18:16.18 | skyn3t | now i need to creat the ./var/www |
| 18:16.20 | elik_ | abrotman, no, usb drive counted in |
| 18:16.29 | skyn3t | i dont have the www there |
| 18:16.36 | elik_ | abrotman, so 1 SATA drive, 1 CD drive, 1 usb drive |
| 18:16.46 | php6th | abrotman: nm-applet just pop up from nowhere, that could be, if yes, shoud i uninstall it? |
| 18:17.16 | dmoerner | akio, if its not in the repos check 1) lenny repos 2) snapshot.debian.net |
| 18:17.48 | elik_ | abrotman, according to fstab: sda* is my internat drive, sdc1 is my usb hd, and there are 2 entries for cdrom?!, one one sdc and another one on scd0 |
| 18:18.08 | abrotman | php6th: no idea .. don't use it |
| 18:18.19 | abrotman | elik_: that's fine |
| 18:18.39 | php6th | abrotman: how to disable? it does now have "exit" , where are the startup programs stored? |
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| 18:19.01 | abrotman | php6th: uninstall it ? |
| 18:19.10 | dmoerner | php6th, in what desktop environment? gnome is system -> prefs -> sessions |
| 18:19.27 | Pavlz | here i am |
| 18:19.33 | Pavlz | i turned back |
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| 18:19.49 | elik_ | abrotman, should I still try to detach USB drive and restart? |
| 18:19.56 | Pavlz | is time to take my dinner but there is again a little of time |
| 18:20.09 | Pavlz | good evening or morning |
| 18:20.14 | Pavlz | to all |
| 18:21.02 | plb3 | I have a slapd install authenticating both unix accounts and a samba pdc. When users type passwd it asks for the old password, then the "New UNIX password:" then a retype of it and then for "New password:" and a retype. Why is it asking twice? And how do I get it to ask only once? |
| 18:21.43 | Vi^3PP | ok i have a new server set up with the appropriate dns from dyndns, tikiwiki works, apache works... ive been told i need to set up a dns server so my routers can resolve my ip and port so i can view webpages internally from my server |
| 18:21.55 | Vi^3PP | what package am i looking for to do this |
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| 18:22.03 | dmoerner | Vi^3PP, dnsmasq maybe? |
| 18:22.08 | elik_ | abrotman, gonna try... not much to lose :) brb |
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| 18:22.36 | php6th | abrotman, thank you , if i was a girl i would date you |
| 18:22.42 | stew | Vi^3PP: you don't need to setup a dns server |
| 18:22.59 | abrotman | php6th: what if i am? |
| 18:23.00 | Pavlz | hello abrotman |
| 18:23.03 | abrotman | oh hi |
| 18:23.14 | Vi^3PP | stew, okay then what do i need to do |
| 18:23.32 | Vi^3PP | i cant resolve my pages from inside my network hitting the public ips |
| 18:23.36 | stew | Vi^3PP: it doesn't sound like you need to do anything |
| 18:23.37 | JordiGH | Heh. dpkg needs to be able to greet like a lolcat. |
| 18:23.38 | misteree | how can i allow other coputers on my network that ssh into this box to use xserver ? |
| 18:23.38 | php6th | abrotman: are you girl? |
| 18:23.45 | abrotman | irrelevant |
| 18:23.59 | dmoerner | misteree, ssh -X is easiest and safest |
| 18:24.05 | stew | Vi^3PP: oh, what happens when you try to go one of your pages? do you get an error? |
| 18:24.06 | php6th | abrotman: boy ;) |
| 18:24.12 | Vi^3PP | yes stew |
| 18:24.13 | Bushmills | Vi^3PP: you don't need to set up an own DNS as third party DNS will resolve you dyndns host too. But you may, of course. One is not directly related to the other |
| 18:24.19 | newsense | dmoerner: thanks |
| 18:24.21 | dmoerner | php6th, you can use /whois haha if you are really curious |
| 18:24.28 | dmoerner | newsense, um what? |
| 18:24.39 | newsense | i was wondering the same |
| 18:24.42 | dmoerner | oh |
| 18:24.52 | newsense | was looking it up and he had the answer |
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| 18:25.07 | Bushmills | Vi^3PP: if you set up two athoritative DNS, you woujldn't need dyndns, but can use your own DNS to resolve your host |
| 18:25.30 | stew | misteree: what exactly do you mean. you mean you want them to be able to use the xserver on the box that they are sshing to? |
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| 18:25.41 | Bushmills | Vi^3PP: so, what's the purpose of your intention to set up a DNS? |
| 18:25.41 | newsense | vnc any good though ? |
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| 18:25.54 | stew | ssh -X is for using x clients from the ssh server, not the x server on the ssh server |
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| 18:26.29 | misteree | hmmm |
| 18:26.33 | Vi^3PP | Bushmills, im sorry im kinda confused on this whole thing and it is new to me... my dyndns is setup to hit my public ip, my routers are set to forward and all work fine... however when i type my public url in i get an error .. but i can hit my tikiwiki on localhost |
| 18:26.36 | dmoerner | oops stew is right i misunderstood you |
| 18:26.49 | stew | Vi^3PP: what error do you get? |
| 18:27.05 | newsense | im trying to shh into a remote box and use x, whats best ? |
| 18:27.27 | stew | newsense: be more specific. what do you mean by "use x" you want the window to show up on which machine? the ssh client or the ssh server? |
| 18:27.29 | Bushmills | Vi^3PP: let me guess, you use your provider's DNS to resolve, and you tried your hostname before your dyndns records were set up. |
| 18:27.44 | newsense | client |
| 18:28.04 | Vi^3PP | Bushmills, no i set up dyndns a couple of weeks ago.. i just finished this server install |
| 18:28.05 | stew | newsense: then yes, you can use ssh -X if you have setup the ssh server to allow it: /msg dpkg sshx |
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| 18:28.17 | newsense | stew and everyone thanks |
| 18:28.21 | Vi^3PP | stew, Failed to Connect |
| 18:28.21 | Vi^3PP | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:28.36 | Vi^3PP | oops |
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| 18:28.48 | Vi^3PP | sorry about that |
| 18:28.49 | Bushmills | Vi^3PP: then it use a bit unusual that it doesn't resolve. |
| 18:28.56 | Bushmills | then it is ... |
| 18:29.05 | Vi^3PP | did u see that text at all |
| 18:29.12 | Vi^3PP | says failed to connect |
| 18:29.18 | misteree | i think im gonna need vnc i want full desktop access |
| 18:29.23 | Vi^3PP | but others can view it from outside my network |
| 18:29.55 | Bushmills | Vi^3PP: do machines on your net resolve any external host name? |
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| 18:30.52 | Vi^3PP | Bushmills, i have 3 nameservers set up in my resolv.conf |
| 18:30.57 | elik | abrotman, I think I have found the source of my problem: my bios doing funky stuff... |
| 18:31.03 | Vi^3PP | 2 are outside my network |
| 18:31.16 | elik | abrotman, I get a message: 00 USB mass storage devices found and configured, even when the hd is not connected |
| 18:31.17 | Bushmills | Vi^3PP: then those should also resolve your host at dyndns |
| 18:31.19 | misteree | how can i put ircii in the bg while im running it ? |
| 18:31.27 | Vi^3PP | my site that i am setting up is the only one i cant hit |
| 18:31.30 | dmoerner | misteree, ctrl+Z |
| 18:31.35 | misteree | thanks ;) |
| 18:31.38 | hoxu | misteree, screen |
| 18:31.41 | pengwyn | kcs4u.com |
| 18:31.50 | Vi^3PP | no pengwyn |
| 18:31.57 | Vi^3PP | vampypengy.ath.cx |
| 18:32.02 | elik | abrotman, in which case fschk fail miserably when trying to scan sdc |
| 18:32.09 | hoxu | pengwyn, spam? |
| 18:32.16 | misteree | g |
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| 18:32.26 | misteree | zz |
| 18:32.26 | pengwyn | tikiwiki is up |
| 18:32.32 | Vi^3PP | but i cant hit it |
| 18:32.35 | Vi^3PP | that is my problem |
| 18:32.37 | elik | abrotman, so it's like if the bios created a SCSI controller or something for USB drives |
| 18:32.46 | pengwyn | why would I be spamming for? |
| 18:32.59 | elik | abrotman, and it must create a dummy sdb.. which linux has a lot of difficulties to communicate with |
| 18:33.09 | stew | Vi^3PP: so, on the machine from which you CAN'T hit it, what is the output of "host vampypengy.ath.cx" ? |
| 18:33.17 | Vi^3PP | cant connect to host |
| 18:33.38 | pengwyn | tried adding it to your /etc/hosts? |
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| 18:33.46 | stew | Vi^3PP: open a shell and type "host vampypengy.ath.cx", what does it return? |
| 18:34.10 | Vi^3PP | gives the wrong ip |
| 18:34.11 | stew | adding it to /etc/hosts would default the purpose of dyndns |
| 18:34.15 | Vi^3PP | not mine |
| 18:34.36 | pengwyn | not if your trying to service a server external to your internal lan |
| 18:34.48 | pengwyn | probably need a pinhole too |
| 18:34.51 | hoxu | pengwyn, url out of blue is usually spam... but I guess it's because my /lastlog was cleared, sorry :) |
| 18:35.10 | pengwyn | hoxu na it was a lookup on Vi^3PP |
| 18:35.17 | Vi^3PP | ya :) |
| 18:35.42 | hoxu | guess I'm half-asleep :) |
| 18:35.44 | akio | is there a repository that i can use to get packages that were tossed out of the main contrib and non-free because they are old or just been replaced? |
| 18:35.44 | stew | Vi^3PP: so it sounds like the nameserver that your host is using is giving an old cached value |
| 18:35.56 | stew | Vi^3PP: how recently did the ip adress for vampypengy.ath.cx change? |
| 18:35.57 | Bushmills | Vi^3PP: use dig to sort out what is wrong: check with dig -t ns what dns is used, then dig @thatdns what resolved to, and compare against dig @anypublicdns |
| 18:36.03 | Vi^3PP | it is static |
| 18:36.11 | hoxu | !tell akio about debian archive |
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| 18:36.37 | akio | thanks hoxu |
| 18:38.07 | stew | Vi^3PP: can you show us the output of "dig vampypengy.ath.cx" ; use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
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| 18:40.16 | eraldo | I am looking for a scanner that works under linux... I know there is the sane hp... I thought I might get some advide(subjective) ..because there are so many |
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| 18:40.58 | bar | Hello |
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| 18:41.25 | Vi^3PP | stew, http://rafb.net/p/D6YnGI37.html |
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| 18:42.11 | skyn3t | stew : can you take a look here http://skyn3t.110mb.com/INSTALL |
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| 18:42.32 | stew | Vi^3PP: it is giving the correct ip |
| 18:42.41 | skyn3t | @ this line mysqladmin create torrentflux |
| 18:42.50 | Vi^3PP | no stew |
| 18:42.56 | Vi^3PP | my ip starts with 71 |
| 18:43.15 | skyn3t | its say something about TF has the command to create a table |
| 18:43.19 | stew | Vi^3PP: the ip address which this is resolving to is the same as it resolves to for me, and it works for me |
| 18:43.23 | skyn3t | but i dont know how i can run that |
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| 18:43.44 | Vi^3PP | i know it works outside my network but i cant hit it |
| 18:43.45 | stew | skyn3t: you will need to add -p to the mysqladmin and mysql commands so that it will prompt you for your password |
| 18:43.50 | deus___ | i've got a kind of funny question: is it possible to "map" a special letter like å on a keyboard, using ALT+a or something? like re-map the keylayout? |
| 18:43.58 | Vi^3PP | but i can hit my tikiwiki from localhost |
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| 18:44.11 | stew | Vi^3PP: what happens if you "telnet 63.208.196.110 80" |
| 18:44.27 | stew | skyn3t: is there a reason you aren't using the debian package of torrentflux? |
| 18:44.58 | newsense | needs a good photo editing software |
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| 18:45.14 | mac123 | i have debain etch runninng i want to uninstall pureftp with all its config i tried apt-get remove pure-ftpd but it doesnt remove all this files plz |
| 18:45.17 | Vi^3PP | stew, i can log in but gives me blank screen and tells me how to logoff |
| 18:46.01 | stew | mac123: /msg dpkg purge |
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| 18:46.09 | stew | Vi^3PP: "i can log in"? what do you mean? |
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| 18:46.14 | stew | Vi^3PP: you mean you get connected? |
| 18:46.20 | Vi^3PP | yes |
| 18:46.37 | skyn3t | no |
| 18:46.37 | Vi^3PP | and then it tells me how to escape |
| 18:46.44 | stew | Vi^3PP: you can disconnect by hitting ctrl+] then type quit |
| 18:46.59 | stew | Vi^3PP: do you use a http proxy? |
| 18:47.02 | Vi^3PP | no |
| 18:47.08 | pengwyn | Vi^3PP you need a port forward TCP DEFAULT IP : 80(HTTP) => 192.168.XX.XX : 80(HTTP) YOUSERVER 80 http |
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| 18:47.52 | Vi^3PP | pengwyn, i have to use 8080 bc 80 is being used already |
| 18:48.13 | Vi^3PP | i set up my router to forward all the 8080 that are passed off to me from outside router/modem |
| 18:48.22 | pengwyn | make sure your apache is running on 8080 then |
| 18:48.24 | stew | Vi^3PP: can you show us the output of "wget -O- http://vampypengy.ath.cx" ? |
| 18:48.27 | Vi^3PP | it is |
| 18:48.30 | pengwyn | and restarted |
| 18:48.37 | newsense | can anyone recommend a good photo editor geared twords a windows user? |
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| 18:48.46 | dusty_ | Hey how do you get the latest bind 9 to dump its statistics (on a centos 5.2 server and debian 4.0 server) ? |
| 18:48.47 | skyn3t | stew : i dont how how i can add thi -p and what is the command to run allthis |
| 18:48.48 | deus___ | i've got a kind of funny question: is it possible to "map" a special letter like å on a keyboard, using ALT+a or something? like re-map the keylayout? |
| 18:48.49 | deus___ | ~ |
| 18:48.50 | stew | newsense: the gimp |
| 18:48.51 | pengwyn | vampy goes to his tikiwiki |
| 18:49.23 | stew | skyn3t: i don't know what you mean |
| 18:49.42 | newsense | gimp from what i remember is nothing a windows user would recognize |
| 18:49.48 | keith4 | deus___: check out the gnome keyboard preferences |
| 18:49.51 | newsense | havent used it in a while |
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| 18:49.57 | keith4 | at the least, you can map a compose key that will let you type those |
| 18:50.10 | Vi^3PP | stew http://rafb.net/p/NzaZdl16.html |
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| 18:50.19 | keith4 | newsense: gimp is not a "photo editor" |
| 18:50.29 | deus___ | thanks |
| 18:50.30 | newsense | i kknow |
| 18:50.48 | newsense | i knew soeone was gonna say gimp when i asked though |
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| 18:50.57 | stew | Vi^3PP: what happens if you run "telnet 71.36.230.171 8080" |
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| 18:51.16 | newsense | from the screenshots of recent gimp it kinda looks loike a photo editor though |
| 18:51.22 | Vi^3PP | telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused |
| 18:51.23 | keith4 | newsense: how about picasa? |
| 18:51.37 | newsense | isnt that a windows app ? |
| 18:51.40 | pengwyn | you got some bad numbers in there somewhere Vi^3PP cause 63.208 goes to hop.mywebhop |
| 18:51.55 | stew | there are no bad numbers in there |
| 18:51.57 | abrotman | elik: linux treats usb storage as scsi devices |
| 18:52.37 | elik | abrotman, oh, ok |
| 18:52.46 | newsense | keith4: picasa not in lenny |
| 18:52.51 | pengwyn | 71. is the target but tikiwik is not supposed to be the result? Or you just can't get to it from your internal lan? |
| 18:52.57 | keith4 | newsense: picasa not in anything |
| 18:53.00 | elik | abrotman, anyhow, seems like it's that funky usb controller that does weird stuff |
| 18:53.00 | stew | Vi^3PP: so the problem is that the vampypengy.ath.cx ip resolves to a dyndns server which tries to laod "71.36.230.171:8080" in a frame, but 71.36.230.171 is actually your router and not your server, so from your network, you don't see the page, since your router insn't forwarding INTERNAL requests to 71.36.230.171 to your server |
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| 18:54.09 | elik | abrotman, any idea how to skip sdb or the like |
| 18:54.10 | skyn3t | stew : if i follow all this command is should be fine ? http://skyn3t.110mb.com/ssh |
| 18:54.13 | pengwyn | ^ what he said. o) add a port forward rule 80 external to 8080 internal tcp |
| 18:54.25 | mac123 | @ stew i just tried the command it workd now i am installing proftpd but it dosent start |
| 18:54.27 | keith4 | newsense: but there is a debian package for it, somewhere. google it |
| 18:54.31 | Vi^3PP | 71 is the main entrance to network which is a router/modem that is forwardign all 8080 requests to my router and my ip is custom on the inside |
| 18:54.44 | newsense | keith4 thanks i am going to |
| 18:54.50 | pengwyn | it's not forwarding 8080 I tried that. |
| 18:54.58 | pengwyn | it's forwarding 80 |
| 18:55.03 | newsense | i need it for a user who insists photo editing |
| 18:55.17 | stew | skyn3t: why are you trying to change your mysql root password? |
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| 18:55.24 | keith4 | newsense: i've setup picasa for people who don't know what they're doing, and they seem to love it |
| 18:55.25 | skyn3t | nop |
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| 18:55.35 | skyn3t | it is all those steps i have here |
| 18:55.54 | newsense | keith4: i googled it an it seems you nailed it, exactly what i need, now just to find it haaha |
| 18:55.57 | skyn3t | to create a db user pass and table |
| 18:56.03 | skyn3t | thats what i need to do |
| 18:56.13 | pengwyn | 80 on the outside of 71. goes to tikiwiki, 8080 on the outside goes to nothing |
| 18:56.25 | keith4 | newsense: i would suggest googling "picasa debian package" and clicking "i'm feeling lucky", probably |
| 18:56.47 | newsense | havent been feeling too luck lately but maybe i am |
| 18:57.12 | stew | skyn3t: you should either use the debian package, which sets up the database for you, or you should follow the INSTALL file which comes with torrentflux |
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| 18:57.39 | DexterF | moshii: hi. fyi, I got OSX10.4.10 working here in VMware WS6 |
| 18:57.55 | stew | skyn3t: the only thig that you would need to change with the torrentflux INSTALL file is that when they say to run "mysqladmin" or "mysql", run "mysqladmin -p" or "mysql -p" since you already have a mysql root password set |
| 18:57.56 | newsense | keith4: freshmeat ;) |
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| 18:58.14 | stew | skyn3t: i would stongly recommend you to use the debian package |
| 18:58.26 | keith4 | newsense: weird. I get this: http://picasa.google.com/linux/thanks-deb.html |
| 18:58.38 | newsense | i didnt feel lucky |
| 18:58.44 | newsense | just searched |
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| 18:59.27 | newsense | same url freshmeat dl url sent me to |
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| 19:01.28 | Hinata` | "re" |
| 19:01.42 | Hinata` | woops ^^' |
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| 19:02.26 | xingu | sporks linux ipsec |
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| 19:04.20 | pengwyn | my heads going to pop -- nn all and thanks |
| 19:04.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | sounds messy |
| 19:05.28 | slayton | are there any ways to raise the maximum system volume? |
| 19:06.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | connect the line out to an amplifier :-P |
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| 19:07.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | else, I don't think so... perhaps if there's some value defined in the kernel source and you increase that... |
| 19:07.21 | slayton | CutMeOwnThroat, Well I wish I had external speakers with an amp |
| 19:07.25 | slayton | this is for my laptop! |
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| 19:08.54 | neonlightning | slayton, with mplayer you can set -softvol -sofvol-max |
| 19:09.22 | slayton | neonlightning, and that will let me raise the volume above what the current max is? |
| 19:09.34 | markvandenborre | any idea of a non-interactive, command line tool that can help me format ical files into a readable agenda? |
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| 19:10.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | slayton, that will allow you to use the maximum volume with "silent" mp3s |
| 19:10.54 | markvandenborre | I'm looking at a way to integrate this with cron |
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| 19:11.17 | xingu | I've always found it fairly easy to construct a crude speaker box by placing the system's speaker at the point of total internal reflection inside some other vaguely concave surface |
| 19:11.19 | slayton | CutMeOwnThroat, can you explain "Silent MP3" |
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| 19:11.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | slayton, or perhapsuse earbuds? there are some with an amplifier, or there are these noise-cancelling ones, like these http://review.zdnet.com/headphones/audio-technica-ath-anc3/4505-7877_16-32815660.html |
| 19:11.52 | neonlightning | slayton, it'll allow you to turn up the vol past max in mplayer but it tends to get a bit distorted |
| 19:11.56 | xingu | always been able to do it by ear; doesn't give you much gain, but it's surprising what you can get out of the average notebook at times. |
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| 19:12.23 | slayton | neonlightning, thanks |
| 19:12.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | slayton, well, isnt it obvious? As you can have silent parts and loud parts in music, you can have entire mp3 which play only at 10% of the loudness of other mp3s |
| 19:13.36 | slayton | CutMeOwnThroat, sorry man if it had been obvious I wouldn |
| 19:13.37 | neonlightning | CutMeOwnThroat, your thinking of normalization |
| 19:13.41 | slayton | 't have asked the question |
| 19:13.43 | slayton | but that make sense |
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| 19:15.11 | htmlol | I believe that CutMeOwnThroat wasn't using a specific term but rather one that he made up, hence the quotes |
| 19:15.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | slayton, and with such an mp3, using mplayer with >100% makes sense - but if you hit the 'true 100%' of the in-signal, this is a fixed maximum - so lower noise levels will still b e increased, but you cannot send more than 100% really and that's where the distortion comes from (or so I think) |
| 19:15.26 | xingu | slayton: if you put your notebook inside something like a cardboard box and move it about gradually there will be a point at which the sound resonantes; it's readily discernable when you've hit it, the volume boost is immediately apparent. |
| 19:15.59 | slayton | CutMeOwnThroat, that make sense... you saturate your signal while only amplifying the noise |
| 19:16.01 | newsense | keith4: thanks again, user is very happy with picasa |
| 19:16.18 | htmlol | slayton: you have the mp3 file at hand? |
| 19:16.24 | slayton | xingu, heh... sounds like a good idea i'll try it out |
| 19:17.11 | htmlol | you could just go into audacity and open up the mp3, then select the whole thing and do a volume boost. (also, you can see if the actual mp3 is distorted). |
| 19:17.15 | slayton | so whats up with debian vs ubuntu |
| 19:17.20 | slayton | sorry to change topics |
| 19:17.32 | slayton | htmlol can you do that with video files in audacity? |
| 19:17.47 | htmlol | no. unless the audio is separate from the video. |
| 19:17.49 | xingu | actually in addition to just straight dc shifts you can boost _power_ by enhancing both peaks and dips in the waveform |
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| 19:18.17 | htmlol | audacity is an audio editing app |
| 19:18.23 | htmlol | very good and very easy to use |
| 19:18.44 | rwaite | ugly iface tho |
| 19:18.45 | xingu | this is precisely why television adds seem louder than the programme even though both have equivalent gain |
| 19:18.59 | htmlol | the windows interface looks nicer. |
| 19:19.02 | rwaite | compression its called |
| 19:19.03 | Vi^3PirePengy | stew, that did not work i have a conflict with the webservers that are running on the other part o the network |
| 19:19.09 | htmlol | but the linux still gets the job done. |
| 19:19.31 | stew | Vi^3PirePengy: what conflict? |
| 19:20.00 | Vi^3PirePengy | i cant run on 80 |
| 19:20.10 | Vi^3PirePengy | there are other web services running on it |
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| 19:20.16 | Vi^3PirePengy | i MUST run on 8080 |
| 19:20.29 | rwaite | what? |
| 19:20.38 | xingu | there's various other tricks you can do to with decomposing harmonics and shifting them out of phase |
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| 19:20.46 | xingu | s/to /too / |
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| 19:20.58 | htmlol | I would use 10080 if I were you. 8080 can be used for proxies. |
| 19:21.06 | rwaite | like when i download music illegally and find someone spliced in the aim buddy login door sounds into the song? |
| 19:21.07 | xingu | but I prefer my "put it in a cardboard box or a baking tray" approach |
| 19:21.28 | rwaite | that really grinds my gears |
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| 19:21.32 | Vi^3PirePengy | there are no proxies running |
| 19:21.44 | Vi^3PirePengy | its nto my network.. i must use 8080 |
| 19:21.50 | htmlol | oh lol |
| 19:21.51 | htmlol | k |
| 19:22.01 | htmlol | rwaite: use torrents, then |
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| 19:22.16 | rwaite | i do now |
| 19:22.36 | stew | Vi^3PirePengy: you need to have your router forward the 71.x.x.x:8080 internal requests to the internal ip, or you need to maybe handle this with iptables and DNAT on your local machine |
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| 19:22.59 | Vi^3PirePengy | it is stew |
| 19:23.05 | Vi^3PirePengy | and its not working right |
| 19:23.06 | stew | Vi^3PirePengy: or something similar, i don't know if you can do this with a straight routing table entry, perhaps, but we'd have to know more about your network topology |
| 19:23.19 | stew | Vi^3PirePengy: it is what? |
| 19:23.32 | Vi^3PirePengy | it is forwarded from outside ip to inside |
| 19:23.35 | Vi^3PirePengy | on 8080 |
| 19:23.41 | slayton | neonlightning, I got the mplayer thing working THANKS! |
| 19:23.43 | stew | Vi^3PirePengy: i know |
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| 19:24.03 | skyn3t | why when i try to open a http://myip.com/index.php its try to download stead of open the php |
| 19:24.04 | slayton | is there a real rivalry between ubuntu and debian? |
| 19:24.12 | slayton | or is it all just smoke and rumors? |
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| 19:24.42 | stew | skyn3t: try "a2enmod php5" |
| 19:24.56 | neonlightning | slayton, since moving to debian i've noticed things slightly quieter aswell for some reason and i was using that for a while |
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| 19:25.20 | skyn3t | how i d this from ssh |
| 19:25.39 | stew | skyn3t: try running "a2enmod php5" |
| 19:25.56 | skyn3t | This module does not exist! |
| 19:26.14 | skyn3t | that's what i got |
| 19:26.15 | stew | skyn3t: aptitude install libapache2-mod-php5 |
| 19:26.49 | skyn3t | done |
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| 19:26.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | slayton, who is "debian" or "ubuntu"? I think it would go down to individuals... |
| 19:27.19 | skyn3t | This module is already enabled! |
| 19:27.39 | skyn3t | same thing |
| 19:27.42 | skyn3t | try to DL |
| 19:27.42 | Qhestion | i am trying to compile screen, but configure fails with "checking libncurses...\n error: !!! no tgetent - no screen". this means libncurses is not installed, right? so i "apt-get source libncurses", built and installed it, but screen keeps complaining. i guess its because i am not root and therefore used "./configure --prefix=/home/me/local". how do i fix it? |
| 19:27.59 | stew | skyn3t: are you using apache or apache2? |
| 19:28.03 | slayton | CutMeOwnThroat, right well okay i've gotten the impression that people who use debian and people who use ubuntu tend to clash... i've heard people say that debian is being ruined by ubuntu etc etc etc |
| 19:28.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | Qhestion, apt-get build-dep screen; apt-get -b source screen |
| 19:28.49 | Qhestion | CutMeOwnThroat: i am not root, built-dep refuses to run. |
| 19:28.52 | skyn3t | in ./etc/ dir i have apache and apache 2 |
| 19:28.57 | skyn3t | dir |
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| 19:29.50 | skyn3t | and when i browser my http://myip its says * It works! * |
| 19:30.55 | skyn3t | i dont know how i can get the .php working |
| 19:30.57 | stew | skyn3t: "netstat -pln | grep :80" should tell you if it is apache or apapche2 in the last column of output |
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| 19:31.17 | stew | Qhestion: is there a reason you are compiling screen instead of just installing the debian version? |
| 19:31.21 | skyn3t | apache2 |
| 19:31.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | stew, he said he's not root :-/ |
| 19:31.55 | Qhestion | stew: the debian version is messed up: no --enable-colors256 |
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| 19:32.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | heck, where does ekiga store it's settings |
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| 19:32.22 | stew | skyn3t: make sure you aren't loading a cached page when you try to hit your .php page. if you still try to download, then try reloading apache with "/etc/init.d/apache2 force-reload" |
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| 19:34.23 | Qhestion | basically it all comes down to: "how can i tell 'configure' that i installed libraries to /home/me/local" ? |
| 19:34.42 | skyn3t | works now |
| 19:34.49 | n3kl | Someone has been trying to pxe boot my external ip 6000 in the last two days. Really anoying |
| 19:34.55 | skyn3t | but i still need to creat the DB |
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| 19:35.01 | Relenquished | How do I install file info and mcrypt? |
| 19:35.02 | stew | Qhestion: --prefix is how you tell it where to install to, not where to look for a library |
| 19:35.08 | skyn3t | Database error: Unknown database 'torrentflux' |
| 19:35.34 | Qhestion | stew: exactly. and i want to know how to set the latter one. |
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| 19:36.26 | stew | Qhestion: usually its somehting along the lines of "--with-soemlibrary=/home/me/local" ./configure --help should list possible options |
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| 19:38.04 | stew | Qhestion: i'm looking at the source to the debian package now, and it was compiled with --enable-colors256 |
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| 19:38.49 | n3kl | Anyone know if, when building a tun ssh tunnel, if I need to have root access on both machines, or if there is abetter/more-secure method of doing this? |
| 19:38.53 | Qhestion | its not. at least not that one that "apt-get source screen" got me... |
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| 19:39.58 | stew | Qhestion: ahh, it wasn't enabled until 4.0.3-5 which is after etch: http://packages.qa.debian.org/s/screen/news/20070924T053202Z.html |
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| 19:40.21 | stew | Qhestion: but wait, if you have the debian source, why not recompile that instead of calling ./configure yourself? |
| 19:40.28 | Qhestion | stew: i have no idea what version of debian i am using (by the way: how do i find out?) |
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| 19:40.38 | stew | Qhestion: what version of libc6 is installed? |
| 19:41.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | !version |
| 19:41.06 | dpkg | Kernel: uname -r. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version. and: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n 1. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command. check /etc/apt/sources.list; run apt-cache policy <packagename>, or lsb_release -a, or cat /proc/version |
| 19:41.09 | Qhestion | Version: 2.3.6.ds1-13etch7 |
| 19:41.18 | stew | Qhestion: that is etch aka stable aka 4.0 |
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| 19:42.15 | Qhestion | stew: so its etch, so in THEORY it should be with --enable-256colors, right? |
| 19:42.17 | skyn3t | DB created |
| 19:42.23 | skyn3t | ./opt/torrentflux/html/adodb/drivers/adodb-mysql.inc.php on line 355 |
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| 19:42.34 | skyn3t | Database error: Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO) |
| 19:42.34 | skyn3t | Always check your database variables in the config.php file. |
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| 19:43.09 | Qhestion | stew: then the question is: why does my 256 color vim color scheme not work over ssh, on my server -- it does work locally (Ubuntu 8.04)! |
| 19:43.48 | stew | Qhestion: no, sorry for the confusion, the version in etch does not have the 256 color version, but the versions of screen in testing and unstable have that enabled. the screen maintainer enabled it shortly after etch released |
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| 19:44.42 | stew | Qhestion: when i said that it was enabled, i was looking at the source of the unstable version, not the version you have installed |
| 19:44.54 | Qhestion | stew: oh ok. so i am back to the compiling problem. |
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| 19:49.21 | stew | Qhestion: i'd recommend recompiling the debian package or backporting the testing/sid version instead of calling ./configure yourself |
| 19:49.35 | rdz | hi all. i just bought a usb-housing for external harddrives and i now i realized, that it has a button for backup (at least, that is what it is used for under windows). is there any way to catch the event of a button press under linux? |
| 19:49.52 | rdz | is someone here using such an external drive? |
| 19:50.06 | Qhestion | stew: huh? i do not understand that. |
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| 19:50.43 | Qhestion | stew: i mean, i AM compiling the debian package, aint i? i mean, its what "apt-get source" got me... |
| 19:50.45 | justin | rdz: does the drive also show up as a HID device? |
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| 19:51.20 | Lionel_of_Marsei | Saturday night ; 15 years anniversary of Debian at Debian Center in 2ndLife ... |
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| 19:51.55 | stew | Qhestion: /msg dpkg source ; /msg dpkg debian/rules |
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| 19:52.25 | stew | Qhestion: if you are building it with "debbuild" or "dpkg-buildpackage", the debian scripts would be calling ./configure for you and you don't have to worry about how to tell it where to find libraries |
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| 19:52.47 | Benzi | can anyone help me get electricsheep working with twinview? |
| 19:52.48 | stew | Qhestion: or backport the unstable version which has the option you want: /msg dpkg ssb |
| 19:53.34 | Qhestion | stew: from "/msg dpkg source": "As root: 'aptitude install build-essential fakeroot devscripts'" -- i do not have root permissions. |
| 19:54.03 | rdz | justin, good question.. i will check that |
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| 19:54.18 | stew | Qhestion: ok, then nevermind |
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| 19:55.18 | Nyle | hello |
| 19:55.20 | rdz | justin, would i see that in dmesg? |
| 19:55.58 | Qhestion | stew: maybe someone can build the package for me? or, is there a website for pre-built debian packages? |
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| 19:57.03 | stew | Qhestion: you can build the package yourself, you won't be able to install it though |
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| 19:57.41 | stew | Qhestion: you can request the the package be backported to and uploaded to backports.org |
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| 20:00.20 | Qhestion | stew: i give up... thanks for help, anyway |
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| 20:02.24 | justin | rdz: yeah |
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| 20:05.56 | xtrix | question: will option "wireless-key XXX" in /etc/network/interfaces work with ASCII wep password ? |
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| 20:06.53 | stew | xtrix: yes, iirc you want "wireless-key s:XXXX" |
| 20:07.07 | xtrix | stew: ok, thanks |
| 20:07.33 | daftd | [Sid] is there a way to remove packages with out brake others transmission-gtk and gnome for example :s |
| 20:07.37 | jakub | hi |
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| 20:08.04 | jakub | i have problem with ibase in PHP, in debian it said: call to undefined function, but if i log as root, it works |
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| 20:10.33 | abrotman | jakub: check the php.ini for apache/apache2 .. make sure the extension is enabled |
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| 20:11.30 | [gloom] | hi there |
| 20:11.44 | mlLK | is gzip tar > tar the standard way to create an archive w/ gunzip? |
| 20:12.00 | jakub | it`s enabled |
| 20:12.03 | jakub | on ROOT it works |
| 20:12.20 | jelly-home | mlLK: what? |
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| 20:12.34 | stew | jakub: so you are executing a command from a shell, and it works when you run it as root but not if you run it as a regular user? |
| 20:12.43 | mlLK | jelly-home, gzip tarfile > tarfile |
| 20:12.45 | jakub | yes |
| 20:13.05 | mlLK | jelly-home, tar -cvvf directory tarname |
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| 20:13.16 | mlLK | jelly-home, gzip tarname > tarname ? |
| 20:13.20 | \amethyst | mlLK: no, just gzip tarfile |
| 20:13.32 | mlLK | \amethyst, k |
| 20:13.32 | akio | is there a way to increase resolution on a non-graphical install? (to make text as efficient as knoppix boot) |
| 20:13.33 | stew | mlLK: you have tarname and directory backwards in that tar command |
| 20:13.56 | [gloom] | Can anyone tell me how can i delete a UID from a pgp key ON the server? I have deleted it in my local keyring, I exported it to the keyserver again, but in the keyserver the previous uid is still there. I've founf that the server "keyserver.pgp.com" has a web interface to change the previoud key for the new one, and it removes the unwanted previous uid, but I can't do it in wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net |
| 20:14.02 | jelly-home | mlLK: tar cvfz archive.tar.gz directory |
| 20:14.03 | mlLK | stew, right |
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| 20:14.11 | mlLK | jelly-home, oh well then |
| 20:14.17 | stew | akio: /msg dpkg fbcon resolution |
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| 20:14.22 | sladi | akio: on boot you add vga=[somecode] to kernel line |
| 20:14.27 | mlLK | tar cvfz it is then |
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| 20:14.42 | mlLK | ty all |
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| 20:14.51 | [gloom] | I dont want to remove the Key, just to change the uid inside this key. If I can make it locally with the gpg tool, it should be possible to upload the changes to the server... |
| 20:15.01 | jelly-home | mlLK: no need for temporary files then; but this works only with GNU tar (ie. on any Linux) |
| 20:15.22 | akio | thanks, you were both right |
| 20:15.47 | mlLK | jelly-home, so no worky w/ unix |
| 20:15.48 | sladi | akio: NP :) |
| 20:15.50 | skywebro | hello everybody. is it possible for apt-get to ignore certain packages from upgrade? i edited /etc/apt/preferences but it doesn't work |
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| 20:16.03 | newsense | got a belkin usb wireless adapter f5d7050 that says version b but lsusb says version a, not sure what module to use |
| 20:16.03 | jakub | stew? |
| 20:16.43 | jelly-home | mlLK: it depends on which tar does the unix in question have installed (or available) |
| 20:16.49 | stew | jakub: i don't know. if it worked in the shell but not from a webserver, i'd have ideas. what is the extension in question? |
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| 20:17.32 | jelly-home | mlLK: eg. solaris has GNU tar in /usr/sfw/bin or /opt/sfw/bin and calls it gtar |
| 20:17.33 | mlLK | jelly-home, do you have explicitly name the file w/ it's extensions? |
| 20:17.54 | JordiGH | Amusingly, I think they call it freeware. |
| 20:17.56 | mlLK | jelly-home, like tar cvfz public public/ |
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| 20:18.26 | jelly-home | mlLK: specify the complete filenam |
| 20:18.31 | mlLK | jelly-home, k |
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| 20:19.50 | mlLK | tar -cvfz foo.tar foo/ needs to be an example in man |
| 20:21.15 | jelly-home | mlLK: that would be misleading |
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| 20:21.46 | jelly-home | mlLK: "foo.tar" from your command you be a gzipped tar archive |
| 20:21.52 | jelly-home | would be* |
| 20:21.53 | stew | mlLK: if you think that the manpage is lacking, the best thing to do would be to create a patch and file a wishlist bug |
| 20:21.56 | mlLK | jelly-home, oh no! |
| 20:22.00 | mlLK | jelly-home, you're righ! |
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| 20:22.46 | jelly-home | mlLK: the real documentation for tar is not in debian, and the lack of it (and the reasons) is documented |
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| 20:23.12 | jelly-home | mlLK: I believe the man page tells you where to find the official manual online |
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| 20:23.27 | jelly-home | !gfdl |
| 20:23.27 | dpkg | i heard gfdl is the GNU "free" documentation license, see discussion at http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2003/debian-legal-200309/msg00169.html and http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2003/debian-legal-200304/msg00246.html. See the position statement at http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/Position_Statement.html |
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| 20:24.34 | soulchild | Hi all,... I have a strange Problem on my Gnome Desktop: Whenever I click a file my home Folder opens, even if I click it only once or with right mouse button, this happend when I upgraded to sid,... any idea ? |
| 20:24.53 | mlLK | jelly-home, 'the real documentation for tar is not in debian' ? is assuming what? |
| 20:25.24 | akio | sladi, what should i choose for bit-depth? |
| 20:25.35 | stew | mlLK: the tar documentation that comes with tar is much more complete than the manpage that comes with debian, but the official tar documentation cannot be included in debian becuase it is not free |
| 20:25.36 | sladi | akio: probably 24 |
| 20:25.45 | akio | for console? |
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| 20:25.55 | jelly-home | mlLK: read the bottom of "man tar" |
| 20:26.00 | mlLK | stew, yikes, who owns that? |
| 20:26.13 | stew | mlLK: the free software foundation |
| 20:26.29 | akio | brb then |
| 20:26.31 | sladi | yes, depending on resoltion it changes the memory demands on the grphicscard. I think 8 MB is enough. |
| 20:26.39 | nhuisman_work | would be nice if a link to the full docs could be in the man page |
| 20:26.46 | stew | nhuisman_work: it is |
| 20:26.50 | sladi | akio: 24 is 16 million colours |
| 20:26.52 | nhuisman_work | stew ah, nm |
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| 20:28.29 | mlLK | jelly-home, i was just saying, generally speaking; tar -cvfz foo.tar.gz foo/ would be a good example for noobs like myself |
| 20:29.51 | jelly-home | mlLK: yeah, but Debian's man page is just a short reference. I bet there are examples in the real docs |
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| 20:30.07 | mlLK | jelly-home, as in tar-doc ? |
| 20:30.34 | jelly-home | mlLK: as in READ THE BOTTOM OF THE MAN PAGE, THERE'S A LINK THERE |
| 20:30.41 | jelly-home | *phew* |
| 20:30.41 | JordiGH | I wish it were easier to figure out why stuff gets moved to contrib or non-free. |
| 20:31.19 | JordiGH | gcjwebplugin is in contrib. Why? |
| 20:31.20 | stew | jelly-home: easy.. |
| 20:31.51 | sladi | JordiGH: probably java isn't free 100% still |
| 20:32.02 | JordiGH | sladi: yes it is! It's OpenJDK! |
| 20:32.04 | JordiGH | It's in Debian! |
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| 20:32.22 | webmind-org | Java is free under another licence. |
| 20:32.23 | JordiGH | Actually, it's icedtea-gcjwebplugin that's in contrib. |
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| 20:34.21 | JordiGH | Based on Icedtea (free) and gcjwebplugin (free). So what's contrib about it? |
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| 20:34.41 | mlLK | jelly-home, hey jelly there's a link at the bottom |
| 20:34.55 | jelly-home | !win mlLK |
| 20:34.55 | dpkg | Congratulations, mlLK! You have won second prize in a beauty contest! |
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| 20:34.59 | mlLK | lol |
| 20:35.17 | mlLK | jelly-home, coulda just told me that |
| 20:35.17 | stew | JordiGH: that package was was uploaded before openjdk-6 was in main |
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| 20:35.41 | mlLK | !lose mlLK |
| 20:35.41 | dpkg | mlLK: You Lose. |
| 20:35.44 | JordiGH | stew: Ah, so it'll trickle down back to main soon? |
| 20:36.03 | stew | JordiGH: yeah, it should move to main with the next upload, but there hasn't been one since openjdk-6 was accepted |
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| 20:36.39 | stew | JordiGH: (looking at upload dates on http://packages.qa.debian.org/i/icedtea-gcjwebplugin.html vs http://packages.qa.debian.org/o/openjdk-6.html) |
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| 20:36.57 | JordiGH | Aha, #492311 |
| 20:38.13 | JordiGH | And now that gnash works well enough for me today, aptitude remove nspluginwrapper |
| 20:38.35 | JordiGH | 104 mb will be freed! |
| 20:38.37 | JordiGH | \o/ |
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| 20:40.45 | JordiGH | vrms reports 7 non-free, 4 contrib. All except unrar and firmware-iwlwifi are GFDLed docs. |
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| 20:42.13 | jelly-home | JordiGH: vrms is buggy! |
| 20:42.37 | jelly-home | real rms doesn't mind gfdl |
| 20:42.39 | JordiGH | jelly-home: Well, depends if you think it's more correct than RMS or not. |
| 20:42.52 | JordiGH | vrms is like RMS 2.0 |
| 20:42.54 | stew | now more accurate than real RMS! |
| 20:43.06 | jelly-home | accurate in what? |
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| 20:43.17 | Trewas | and vpope is more holy than the real pope |
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| 20:44.07 | stew | jelly-home: finding non-free software |
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| 20:45.31 | JordiGH | wonders wtf would anyone backport vrms. |
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| 20:45.52 | ponyofdeath | hi, anyone know the format of authorized_keys so that i bounce a user from current box to another box? |
| 20:46.38 | _4 | hi everyone |
| 20:47.08 | _4 | i was looking for the emdebian project (embedded debian) any recent news |
| 20:47.09 | JordiGH | Hey, where are the archived bugs? |
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| 20:47.42 | dondelelcaro | _4: www.emdebian.org |
| 20:47.58 | dondelelcaro | _4: the project is still doing work; neal is here working |
| 20:48.02 | _4 | dondelelcaro: i saw that but development seems rather... |
| 20:48.07 | dondelelcaro | JordiGH: use the form at the bottom to switch back and forth |
| 20:48.24 | dondelelcaro | _4: they're always looking for more people to help |
| 20:48.26 | _4 | dondelelcaro: thanks. any timeframe you think :) |
| 20:48.54 | _4 | dondelelcaro: certainly. :) maybe i will join |
| 20:48.56 | dondelelcaro | _4: timeframe for what? |
| 20:49.03 | dondelelcaro | _4: the system is workable now |
| 20:49.10 | _4 | dondelelcaro: for a working release |
| 20:49.41 | _4 | dondelelcaro: oh i read through but didn't get it sorry |
| 20:49.55 | JordiGH | dondelelcaro: Ah, they've changed the interface. Is this a GSoC thing? |
| 20:49.57 | dondelelcaro | _4: it'll most likely release after lenny, but I can't say for certain |
| 20:49.57 | _4 | dondelelcaro: thanks |
| 20:50.01 | dondelelcaro | JordiGH: no, I changed it |
| 20:50.30 | esaym | how do I install from a usb drive? I got a bootable usb drive and it boots the debian testing installer but halfway through debian freaks out because it can't find the cdrom drive (computer doesnt have one) |
| 20:50.33 | JordiGH | dondelelcaro: But wasn't there a GSoC for the BTS? |
| 20:50.38 | dondelelcaro | JordiGH: no |
| 20:50.53 | [TWR] | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:51.06 | streuner | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:51.10 | _4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:51.14 | [TWR] | heh |
| 20:51.18 | _4 | indeed |
| 20:51.40 | [TWR] | :) |
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| 20:55.27 | wl_con_ | hi |
| 20:55.39 | JordiGH | Has RMS ever responded in detail to the position statement on the GFDL |
| 20:55.40 | JordiGH | ? |
| 20:56.06 | dondelelcaro | JordiGH: no |
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| 20:56.18 | JordiGH | Ack, the bra spammer is back. |
| 20:56.37 | JordiGH | dondelelcaro: Hm, funny. I wonder why. Dude's usually quite chatty |
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| 20:59.24 | stew | JordiGH: i've spoken with a number of other FSF people about it, and their attitude is generally "documentation isn't software" |
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| 21:01.35 | [gloom] | Can anyone tell me how can i delete a UID from a pgp key ON the server? I have deleted it in my local keyring, I exported it to the keyserver again, but in the keyserver the previous uid is still there. I've founf that the server "keyserver.pgp.com" has a web interface to change the previoud key for the new one, and it removes the unwanted previous uid, but I can't do it in wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net |
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| 21:03.52 | JordiGH | stew: Hm, misguided. |
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| 21:23.39 | Baloo | What's that handy wifi and ethernet configurator that's installed by default in gnome? |
| 21:24.27 | pickcoder | network-mangler? |
| 21:24.30 | newsense | finally got my wireless card module working and got wirless tools, how do i get it to connect to my wpa encyypted lan at boot now ? |
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| 21:24.46 | newsense | dont want a network-manager err mangler |
| 21:25.05 | pickcoder | !wpa |
| 21:25.06 | dpkg | from memory, wpa is Wi-Fi Protected Access. A WPA supplicant is provided for Debian Lenny, Etch and Sarge in the 'wpasupplicant' package. Read /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes.gz to configure the supplicant as desired (esp. "Troubleshooting" regarding association to hidden SSIDs). http://wiki.debian.org/WPA |
| 21:25.28 | newsense | ok and how do i connect to my wlan at boot |
| 21:25.34 | pickcoder | interfaces |
| 21:25.35 | newsense | ill get the supplicant now |
| 21:25.52 | newsense | supplicant downloading |
| 21:25.53 | Baloo | not wpa, just the gnome program... |
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| 21:26.07 | pickcoder | unless the supplicant has an init script |
| 21:26.09 | newsense | network-manager-gnome |
| 21:26.37 | vadmeste | Hi.. I have a laptop and a desktop with good speakers.. How can I forward audio to these speakers ? |
| 21:26.39 | newsense | pickoder supplicant just allows use of wpa right |
| 21:26.45 | pickcoder | for etch it's in interfaces |
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| 21:27.24 | pickcoder | newsense: I think so. I don't use WPA |
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| 21:28.08 | pickcoder | I have used wpasupplicant in the past when testing |
| 21:28.51 | vadmeste | there are no abstraction of a device on linux ? |
| 21:28.53 | newsense | but how do i get the adapter to connect to my wlan at boot ? |
| 21:29.04 | newsense | what direction should i be looking in ? |
| 21:29.07 | Baloo | Not nm-applet, that doesn't do wifi |
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| 21:29.55 | pickcoder | newsense: interfaces |
| 21:29.59 | newsense | i installed wpa-supplicant already and have wireles-tools |
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| 21:30.51 | newsense | i need wlan0 to connect to essid newsense.net channel 6 using wpa |
| 21:31.07 | newsense | but interfaces is pretty bare |
| 21:31.30 | newsense | i got no problem editing a conf file but writing it from scratch |
| 21:31.42 | newsense | im not that enlightened |
| 21:31.53 | pickcoder | google |
| 21:31.56 | pickcoder | wpa interfaces |
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| 21:32.59 | pickcoder | or look in the /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/ dir for docs |
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| 21:51.45 | cliff_ | hi. I want to install Debian and now downloading 3 DVDs set. How can I make installer install software from 3 DVDs instead of connecting to the repo? |
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| 21:53.14 | dmoerner | !apt-cdrom |
| 21:53.14 | dpkg | i heard apt-cdrom is used to add new CDROMS to the apts list of available sources. Ask me about apt-cdrom_external |
| 21:53.24 | dmoerner | !apt-cdrom_external |
| 21:53.24 | dpkg | methinks apt-cdrom_external is "To prevent apt from removing indices for commented out cd/dvds in sources.list, chmod u-w /var/apt/lists/Debian*" |
| 21:53.26 | peppe | cliff_: IIRC the installer asks you for more dvd/cd |
| 21:54.07 | cliff_ | <peppe>: and at what stage this happens? |
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| 21:54.48 | peppe | cliff_: hm, when you choose the sources to install software from |
| 21:55.16 | cliff_ | ok, i'll download and see. thanks anyway |
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| 22:02.15 | cliff_ | ah, and i wanted to ask - is there a reason to download all 3 DVDs or the software is updated often? |
| 22:02.50 | n3kl | Hi. Ia m trying to setup a point to point tunnel through ssh and I am having some trouble. I keep getting channel 0: open failed: administratively prohibited: open failed. |
| 22:02.50 | deus___ | it's updated often |
| 22:02.54 | zinx | there is no reason to download even one DVD |
| 22:03.22 | zinx | well, apart from not having a decent internet connection where your ability to install is |
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| 22:03.50 | stew | cliff_: you would want to download the dvds if you were going to install a lot of software to machines what aren't able to get onto a network to install packages (therefore needing to install from dvd instead) |
| 22:04.13 | jberg | to install ati drivers in debian, should i download from ati or is there a package for it? |
| 22:04.35 | stew | jberg: which chipset do you have? |
| 22:04.55 | cliff_ | so, if I have Debian 4.0 r2 I can install from that and then upgrade? And another question - current stable release is named Debian 4.0 r4a - what does the letter a stand for? |
| 22:05.11 | deus___ | oh you're installing etch |
| 22:05.22 | jberg | stew: radeon xpress x1270 |
| 22:05.22 | stew | cliff_: yes, you can upgrade. the letter is an indication that a very minor revision to the r4 revision was made |
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| 22:06.01 | stew | jberg: which version of debian are you running? |
| 22:06.08 | jberg | lenny |
| 22:06.19 | stew | jberg: do you need 3d accelleration? |
| 22:06.33 | jberg | stew: i think so. i want to run compiz-fusion |
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| 22:07.21 | stew | jberg: then you need the non-free fglrx driver, but i don't know what the recommended way to install it is |
| 22:07.29 | cliff_ | thank you. The only minus is that i have not a quick connection - somewhat 60 kb/s so it takes the time to install from cd - downloads quite a few packages for hour and a half during installation |
| 22:07.31 | jberg | okay |
| 22:07.35 | newsense | anyone wanna help me connect to my wlan using wpa ? |
| 22:08.59 | newsense | i want my computer to connect to essid newsense.net channel 6 using wpa at init |
| 22:09.03 | cliff_ | are multimedia codecs always shipped within the distro? |
| 22:10.36 | dmoerner | cliff_, some multimedia codecs are illegal in certain areas and thus cannot be shipped |
| 22:10.41 | dmoerner | libdvdcss2 is the classic example |
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| 22:10.53 | dmoerner | !tell cliff_ -about dmm |
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| 22:11.57 | cliff_ | ok. now i'm running slackware but want some debian experience. Is it as stable as slackware? what do you say? |
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| 22:12.23 | dmoerner | cliff_, stability all depends on how you manage your system |
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| 22:13.32 | cliff_ | <dmoerner>: I understand that but sometimes the system falls due to not properly tested updates as often happens in Ubuntu and Fedora |
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| 22:14.06 | stew | cliff_: updates to debian stable are rare. they only occur in order to fix security bugs, or when a pacakge is, for some reason, completely unusable |
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| 22:15.23 | cliff_ | that's good. Don't see a need to update if everything works - it's not a pleasure for me to see things change so fast |
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| 22:17.10 | bol_ | Hi! What is the common disk-encryption in linux nowdays? |
| 22:17.14 | Vi^3PP | im trying to set up BIND stuff and the admin tutorial in the first lines say to use bindconfig but its not working has something changed for lenny |
| 22:17.23 | Vi^3PP | vs when this was writtne |
| 22:17.26 | karsten | Um, anyone having issues with fonts not getting properly specified in gtk apps? I'm trying to get menu fonts to a Sans 8 or so, but they're coming it at about a 10. gtk2, Lenny/Sid |
| 22:17.31 | n3kl | bol_: I like luks |
| 22:17.32 | bol_ | I have found a bunch, but I don't know which one to choose.. |
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| 22:17.45 | bol_ | n3kl: allright |
| 22:17.55 | bol_ | i'll have a look at that. |
| 22:18.10 | n3kl | bol_: some people really like trucrypt, but I found luks to do everything I need so I haven't had a chance to play with it |
| 22:18.28 | cliff_ | and is there a supported KDE environment in Debian. If yes, what version? Would you recommend to use one or better to stay with gnome? Just got used to KDE in Slack |
| 22:18.31 | Vi^3PP | bol_, i use bcrypt, gpg and encfs/fuse |
| 22:18.51 | n3kl | cliff_: I use kde on debian |
| 22:18.52 | Vi^3PP | 3.5.9 in lenny cliff_ |
| 22:18.52 | bol_ | im installing luks/cryptsetup now |
| 22:19.19 | n3kl | bol_: its super easy once you know the few commands and what it is doing |
| 22:19.29 | philluminati | I'm installing it too |
| 22:19.46 | Vi^3PP | luks is nice if you want your whole drive installed vs and on the fly folder that is completely encrypted and hidden |
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| 22:20.05 | n3kl | Vi^3PP: what are the bcrypt and encfs good for? |
| 22:20.10 | Vi^3PP | otherwise someone with luks will know your using encryption |
| 22:20.24 | n3kl | I have to be honest, the only fuse experience I have had has not been the best |
| 22:20.52 | Vi^3PP | n3kl, blowfish fast and easy for bcrypt .. does files easy.... encfs/fuse are hidden encryted folders you can use across drives... like for internal and ext hdd |
| 22:21.07 | n3kl | Vi^3PP: you mean that there is not a way to hide luks volumes is what you are saying, right? |
| 22:21.17 | Vi^3PP | luks unhides on boot |
| 22:21.27 | Vi^3PP | encfs is hidden until mounted |
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| 22:21.43 | n3kl | Vi^3PP: so how does the system know to mount it? |
| 22:21.47 | zinx | encfs is not exactly hidden |
| 22:21.58 | bol_ | it's an external drive i want to encrypt |
| 22:21.58 | Vi^3PP | n3kl, simple script or command line |
| 22:22.14 | Vi^3PP | bol_, use encfs/fuse then |
| 22:22.20 | Vi^3PP | easy to do |
| 22:22.29 | bol_ | ok |
| 22:22.35 | Vi^3PP | and the file contents and names are all encrypted |
| 22:23.22 | n3kl | bol_: a few things I like about luks: its really easy, its portable, works well on full volumes as Vi^3PP said, plus its got loopback support and will work on windows. So you could have a loopback ntfs volume, mount it on windows or linux and cary it with you whereever. One possible solution I have up on cause I would rather just use linux |
| 22:23.22 | bol_ | allright |
| 22:23.28 | Vi^3PP | this is what i do... i have a usb hdd... root owns,, make a folder that $user owns... then make 2 folders in that.. one is my hidden folder the other is the container that opens |
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| 22:24.05 | Vi^3PP | n3kl, i have successfully used encfs/fuse, bcrypt on bsd and linux any distro |
| 22:24.12 | n3kl | Vi^3PP: is encfs pretty easy |
| 22:24.15 | Vi^3PP | yep |
| 22:24.23 | Vi^3PP | let me get u an url n3kl |
| 22:24.34 | n3kl | Vi^3PP: I have whole disk encryption now which I really love for luks, but its not the best at loopback devices |
| 22:25.14 | newsense | whats the easiest way to connect to my wlan with wpa without a network-manager ? |
| 22:25.19 | n3kl | Anyone know why I would not be ablt to create a tun0 device under a xen domU |
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| 22:25.21 | n3kl | ? |
| 22:25.23 | newsense | anyone wanna walk me through it ? |
| 22:25.33 | bol_ | ah well |
| 22:25.33 | n3kl | newsense: wpa_supplicant |
| 22:25.38 | Vi^3PP | http://sidux-underground.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=23&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=&sid=3772521368caf6a9a6aa27ed905a4895 |
| 22:25.51 | newsense | i got it |
| 22:25.52 | bol_ | I'll have a look at both LUKS and encfs tomorrow |
| 22:25.53 | n3kl | newsense: install it and all the information you need is in /usr/share/doc |
| 22:25.59 | bol_ | it's sleepytime now |
| 22:26.03 | Vi^3PP | ni bol_ |
| 22:26.09 | newsense | but all the guides ive read dont match up with the iles i have |
| 22:26.15 | bol_ | thanks for the info |
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| 22:26.21 | path_ | is there any gtk frontend for git ? I can't find it |
| 22:26.25 | newsense | i have no /usr/share/wpa* |
| 22:26.27 | Vi^3PP | n3kl, i did use luks/lvm all at once but on a laptop is pointless because i cant add drives |
| 22:26.44 | Vi^3PP | a desktop would be perfect for adding additonal storage |
| 22:26.54 | newsense | nm i do now |
| 22:27.00 | newsense | purged it and reinstalled |
| 22:27.02 | Vi^3PP | encfs is dynamic |
| 22:27.02 | dmoerner | newsense, /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant |
| 22:27.12 | n3kl | Vi^3PP: not sure I follow your point |
| 22:27.17 | stew | path_: gitk is a nice tk frontend |
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| 22:27.52 | Vi^3PP | lvm in lenny is used in addition to luks... which means you can easily expand drive storage.. i cant add additional drives in a laptop |
| 22:28.22 | n3kl | Vi^3PP: true |
| 22:28.32 | n3kl | I see where you are headed |
| 22:28.37 | Vi^3PP | so for me a dynamic drive like encfs is perfect |
| 22:28.46 | Vi^3PP | the other is overkill |
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| 22:28.53 | philluminati | How exactly do I use cryptsetup? I run cryptsetup /mnt/encrypted /dev/sda9...what exactly should I do? df -h doesn't show it as mounted and I don't know how to use it |
| 22:29.04 | n3kl | sure sure |
| 22:29.08 | Vi^3PP | and if i go through an airport and have to boot up no one knows i have encfs.. they will see it with luks |
| 22:29.35 | n3kl | Vi^3PP: can you do full disk enc with encfs? |
| 22:29.43 | Vi^3PP | it is folder level |
| 22:29.50 | n3kl | sounds like its more usefull for smaller volumes |
| 22:29.56 | Vi^3PP | so your folder can be as large as you want |
| 22:30.07 | n3kl | not smaller as in disk space, I mean, uh, less system impact |
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| 22:30.23 | Vi^3PP | i have no noticeable impact on useage |
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| 22:30.56 | alex^ | whats the best way to redetect my network cards? |
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| 22:31.06 | Vi^3PP | then only thing you have to remember if you back up is to umount first or your opened files will copy over too |
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| 22:33.58 | n3kl | Vi^3PP: in that tutorial, which is the encrypted volume, the .dir or the dir |
| 22:34.28 | Vi^3PP | .dir |
| 22:34.37 | n3kl | Vi^3PP: so that is the one that I add files to? |
| 22:34.38 | Vi^3PP | you can have two .'s if you want i do |
| 22:34.53 | Vi^3PP | no you add it to the open file and it save to the encrypted |
| 22:35.10 | esaym | how to remove module in busybox? |
| 22:35.26 | dmoerner | esaym, rmmod or modprobe -r don't work? |
| 22:35.40 | esaym | rmmod missing |
| 22:35.50 | esaym | modprobe -r forgot about that.. |
| 22:36.23 | n3kl | Vi^3PP: I see. Thats not bad |
| 22:37.19 | Vi^3PP | n3kl, :) |
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| 22:37.38 | esaym | grr it is not unloading... |
| 22:37.52 | n3kl | Vi^3PP: I like the on-the-fly aspect |
| 22:37.59 | Vi^3PP | n3kl, i actually have 2 sets of folders going |
| 22:38.23 | Vi^3PP | only one is active at a time |
| 22:38.32 | n3kl | Vi^3PP: what encryption is being used by default? |
| 22:38.51 | Vi^3PP | i dont remember |
| 22:38.56 | n3kl | Vi^3PP: also, this is folder only based encryption? |
| 22:39.04 | Vi^3PP | the man page i think explains but there is a paranoia setting |
| 22:39.14 | n3kl | reading |
| 22:39.14 | Vi^3PP | correct n3kl |
| 22:40.04 | Vi^3PP | there is a lock file that gets saved in the encrypted folder with all the settings for encryption.. if you lose that file your data is toast |
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| 22:41.08 | n3kl | Vi^3PP: yeah, I saw that ... |
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| 22:42.36 | n3kl | Vi^3PP: cool, well, thanks for the tip. I am sure I will find a use for it now ;) |
| 22:42.44 | Vi^3PP | sure n3kl |
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| 22:43.49 | aguitel | anyone know how install driver for wireless card ZyDAS 802.11b/g USB2 WiFi zd1211 |
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| 22:46.03 | dmoerner | aguitel, apt-get install zd1211-firmware |
| 22:46.04 | dmoerner | http://packages.debian.org/sid/zd1211-firmware |
| 22:47.49 | aguitel | dmoerner, only this file? |
| 22:49.06 | dmoerner | aguitel, you will need to reboot afterwards |
| 22:49.29 | dmoerner | or do modprobe -r zd1211 && depmod -ae && modprobe it again but that doesn't always work. it's easier to let udev do its thing |
| 22:49.45 | aguitel | dmoerner, ok thanks |
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| 22:53.12 | Delts | Hi guys, I've trying to set up a new desktop with debian and I've come unstuck with the screen resolution. It's stuck at 640x480 despite the monitor being cable of 1280x1024 @60Hz |
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| 22:53.44 | dmoerner | Delts, try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. do you have any proprietary drivers? |
| 22:53.45 | Delts | I've tried adding the refresh and synchronisation to the xorg.conf but I'm still getting no option to change it |
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| 22:54.22 | Delts | I tried that initially dmoerner and it started giving me an error for the depth since it went into 24bit |
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| 22:55.22 | Delts | One problem was that I had to install on a different computer and move the hard drive since the computer I've installed it on doesn't have a cd-drive so it used my laptops initial settings |
| 22:56.35 | dmoerner | Delts, what version of debian are you using? |
| 22:56.53 | dmoerner | you can tell it to use 16bit depth by setting DefaultDepth 16 in the "Screen" section |
| 22:57.20 | Delts | Whatever the latest one is, I don't know the name since I'm a new to Debian having used Ubuntu before |
| 22:58.14 | Delts | This is what my xorg.conf looks like just now http://pastebin.com/m1d9bac6f |
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| 23:00.16 | dmoerner | Delts, for an intel 915 GM you should use "intel" driver not "i810" |
| 23:01.00 | dmoerner | Delts, cat /etc/debian_version for your version |
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| 23:01.13 | Delts | Thanks |
| 23:01.14 | war9407 | Hi, is anyone using the Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-1950 in Linux yet? (support was /JUST/ added in 2.6.26) |
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| 23:03.00 | alex^ | it works fine in 2.6.42 but not in xen... |
| 23:03.05 | alex^ | anyone know how i can load it? |
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| 23:05.21 | pngwn | alex^, tried ##xen ? |
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| 23:06.34 | terrestre | 15 years today? |
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| 23:08.13 | skyn3t | hi |
| 23:08.17 | skyn3t | i have a proftpd |
| 23:08.25 | skyn3t | installed in my server |
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| 23:08.47 | skyn3t | and i need to edit /etc/proftpd.conf. |
| 23:08.53 | n3kl | press enter less often |
| 23:08.58 | wols | !enter |
| 23:08.58 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. |
| 23:08.59 | skyn3t | the conf file its all blank |
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| 23:09.27 | keith4_ | I have an odd question. Whenever I dig a non-existent host, I get answers from WSC1.JOMAX.NET and WSC2.JOMAX.NET |
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| 23:09.52 | keith4_ | like so: http://pastebin.com/m7d2dae2a |
| 23:10.11 | keith4_ | no matter what non-existent host I resolve, I get the same 2 IPs back |
| 23:10.45 | snowrichard | I have just spent about 12 hours installing and configuring debian alpha from the netinst.iso |
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| 23:10.49 | snowrichard | got samba up |
| 23:10.53 | snowrichard | and drupal |
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| 23:11.36 | xulfme | How do I know if I have mod_ssl or open_SSL for apache? |
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| 23:15.01 | n3kl | xulfme: looked in /etc/apache2/mods-available/ lately? |
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| 23:15.27 | keith4_ | xulfme, what version of apache are you using? |
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| 23:17.19 | snowrichard | cool I just logged into my XP system from the debian one. |
| 23:17.48 | acutedeath | join #c++ |
| 23:17.51 | newsense | ive read the dam readme for wpa supplicant and still cant get wireless working, anyone ? |
| 23:17.53 | acutedeath | oops missing / |
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| 23:18.09 | acutedeath | funny |
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| 23:18.16 | skyn3t | do i need any special module to run proftpd |
| 23:18.23 | newsense | no |
| 23:18.28 | n3kl | newsense: paste your confs. Be sure to change your pasphrase er whatever |
| 23:18.32 | skyn3t | cuz my conf file its all blank |
| 23:18.36 | skyn3t | i cannot edit |
| 23:18.42 | skyn3t | cuz its nothing there |
| 23:19.15 | n3kl | skyn3t: wtf are you taking about. Stop pressing enter so often |
| 23:19.35 | skyn3t | i did |
| 23:19.35 | newsense | n3kl: i purged wpasupplicant when it didnt work and changed /etc/network/interfaces back too |
| 23:19.37 | skyn3t | same thin |
| 23:19.52 | newsense | n3kl: the options i had didnt work neways |
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| 23:20.28 | newsense | n3kl: i need dhcp on wlan0 connected to essid newsense.net channel 6 wpa |
| 23:20.31 | n3kl | newsense: well, either give up, or paste some assemblence of a config for us to look at |
| 23:20.41 | newsense | ok 1 sec |
| 23:20.54 | newsense | ill edit it to the best of my knowledge and pastebn |
| 23:20.58 | newsense | thanks :) |
| 23:21.06 | newsense | been on this for hours |
| 23:21.19 | n3kl | newsense: did you read the docs? I find them quite informative |
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| 23:21.40 | newsense | n3kl: i did but nothing worked even after a reboot |
| 23:21.41 | stew | xulfme: you have mod_ssl which is openssl for apache |
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| 23:22.20 | newsense | i thought at least it would associate with ap but maybe not pull an ip due to key syntax possibly being wrong |
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| 23:22.39 | n3kl | newsense: what version of debian are you using? |
| 23:22.48 | newsense | lenny |
| 23:22.54 | Lionel_of_Marsei | Saturday night ; 15 years anniversary of Debian at Debian Center in 2ndLife ... |
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| 23:23.51 | nse | I am going... |
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| 23:24.22 | n3kl | n3rd |
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| 23:25.34 | skyn3t | ima doing anything wrong here |
| 23:25.35 | skyn3t | ProFTPd is started from inetd/xinetd. |
| 23:25.38 | skyn3t | ProFTPd is started from inetd/xinetd. |
| 23:25.57 | skyn3t | ./etc/init.d/proftpd stop |
| 23:26.26 | newsense | n3kl: heres my interfaces file, it had a lot more but each time i read more it changed more and none of it worked http://paste.debian.net/14795 |
| 23:26.49 | newsense | i added the wireless section myself |
| 23:27.00 | n3kl | newsense: I can tell |
| 23:27.05 | newsense | haha |
| 23:27.09 | newsense | is it that off ? |
| 23:27.16 | n3kl | newsense: what card do you have? |
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| 23:27.17 | up365 | http://www.debian.org/News/2008/20080808 Mar del Plata to host 8th Debian conference |
| 23:27.23 | newsense | belkin 7050b |
| 23:27.24 | stew | newsense: read /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.Debian.gz if you want that to automatically connect to wpa |
| 23:27.42 | n3kl | newsense: what driver does that use, I don't know |
| 23:27.42 | stew | newsense: are you using a desktop environment? |
| 23:27.49 | newsense | no xfce |
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| 23:27.57 | newsense | rt2500 |
| 23:28.05 | newsense | i think let me double check |
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| 23:28.13 | newsense | ill pastebin lsmod |
| 23:28.18 | newsense | and lsusb |
| 23:28.32 | stew | i don't know if there is some version of network-manager that works with xfce, probably the nm-applet from network-manager-gnome |
| 23:28.48 | n3kl | newsense: dood, I am pretty sure that the documentation for wpa_supplicant tells you that if you want to use the interfaces file, you must specify at least the config path for wpa_supplicant |
| 23:29.14 | stew | you can also just specify the ssid/psk |
| 23:29.37 | n3kl | non of which is in the config pasted |
| 23:29.40 | stew | right |
| 23:29.52 | n3kl | !rtfm |
| 23:29.52 | dpkg | somebody said rtfm was Read The Fucking Manual. If you want to ask a question about foo, please read man foo; before asking. If there isn't a manpage about foo, use apropos to find one. Reading manuals helps us help you. [You might try info foo as well.] |
| 23:29.57 | n3kl | Yay! |
| 23:30.35 | newsense | http://paste.debian.net/14796 |
| 23:30.36 | n3kl | newsense: sorry, I am not trying to be a jerk |
| 23:30.54 | newsense | n3kl: i just want it to work ill use any file to configure it |
| 23:31.05 | newsense | i tried the wpa supplicant config method too |
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| 23:31.18 | newsense | i forgot to mention that my mistake |
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| 23:31.54 | stew | newsense: what is your acutal question? |
| 23:32.09 | newsense | i wish i could disable wpa but other people have their computers setup for it already |
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| 23:32.44 | newsense | stew: how can i simply connect to essid: newsense.net channel:6 enc_type: wpa ? |
| 23:32.54 | newsense | and have it done at init time |
| 23:33.14 | stew | newsense: read /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.Debian.gz |
| 23:33.22 | newsense | i know its a big request ill be more modest next time |
| 23:33.26 | stew | newsense: it tells you what to add to /etc/network/interfaces |
| 23:33.29 | newsense | dammit i did 3 times |
| 23:33.31 | n3kl | newsense: http://pastebin.ca/1172150 |
| 23:33.39 | newsense | breaks down and cries man teart |
| 23:33.47 | newsense | teart/tears |
| 23:33.50 | n3kl | newsense: you might need to change the wext shit, I don't know anything about your driver |
| 23:34.07 | n3kl | teart should be some kind of cookie or something |
| 23:34.13 | stew | newsense: which line in your /etc/network/interfaces is supposed to have the ssid? |
| 23:34.14 | newsense | hahaha |
| 23:34.16 | n3kl | have a teart |
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| 23:34.22 | newsense | i dont know |
| 23:34.31 | newsense | i seen examples but they differed |
| 23:34.45 | newsense | so i dont know what it should look like |
| 23:35.00 | n3kl | newsense: look at the link I sent you |
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| 23:35.23 | newsense | i am thanks |
| 23:35.43 | newsense | n3kl: im gonna try it now |
| 23:36.15 | n3kl | newsense: you still need to read, causeI think I am using a different module than you are, the wext part needs to change |
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| 23:36.59 | newsense | n3kl: ill have to google it cause ive never heard of it myself haha |
| 23:37.16 | newsense | im gonna start with what you gave me |
| 23:37.27 | n3kl | break a leg |
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| 23:38.21 | newsense | n3kl: guess wext is default or something |
| 23:38.31 | newsense | i read it earlier now that i think about it |
| 23:38.55 | n3kl | newsense: thats just what I needed for my intel card |
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| 23:41.01 | newsense | n3kl: i edited the files now do i need to reload any daemons or anything ? |
| 23:41.07 | Sia0-0 | hi |
| 23:41.26 | Sia0-0 | how can i block website ? |
| 23:41.50 | newsense | could use opendns i think they offer that |
| 23:42.14 | newsense | https://www.opendns.com/ |
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| 23:42.20 | stew | Sia0-0: what do you mean exactly? |
| 23:42.20 | n3kl | newsense: yes |
| 23:42.50 | newsense | n3kl: gonna gimme a hint ? |
| 23:42.51 | newsense | haha |
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| 23:43.33 | stew | newsense: ifdown wlan0 ; ifup wlan0 |
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| 23:44.05 | Sia0-0 | stew, for example i will block this website www.bimbam.com and nobody can see it again on my computer |
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| 23:44.21 | ribnitz | is there an easy way to convert a matroska (mkv) file ot DVD format? |
| 23:44.23 | newsense | got an error |
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| 23:45.02 | newsense | http://paste.debian.net/14798 |
| 23:45.31 | Supaplex | ribnitz: if mplayer can play it, mencoder can reconvert it afiak |
| 23:46.08 | zinx | Supaplex: maybe not with matroska.. it has variable framerate weirdness |
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| 23:47.16 | newsense | n3kl, stew: http://paste.debian.net/14798 |
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| 23:47.30 | Sia0-0 | stew, understand me :) |
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| 23:48.58 | ribnitz | Supaplex: xine can play it. vlc can't |
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| 23:52.06 | Laeborg | well im going to make a gateway on the machine next to me to replace the router. Any software you can recommend ? |
| 23:52.38 | ribnitz | Laeborg: Something remotely resembling a firewall |
| 23:53.02 | Laeborg | i want some gui to overview traffic, connections ect |
| 23:55.06 | Sia0-0 | Laeborg, which Desktop einv? |
| 23:55.17 | Laeborg | kde |
| 23:55.36 | Sia0-0 | apttiude install gkrellm |
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| 23:56.09 | Laeborg | and that should do everything i need to make a "hardware router" ? |
| 23:56.23 | Laeborg | dhcp server ect. |
| 23:56.40 | Sia0-0 | !teel Laeborg about gkrellm |
| 23:57.18 | Laeborg | nothing happend |
| 23:57.38 | Sia0-0 | !tell Laeborg about gkrellm |
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| 23:58.50 | Laeborg | will take a look at it. thanks :) |
| 23:59.03 | Sia0-0 | Laeborg, np |