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| 00:04.43 | the-wes | how do I find out what package installed a specific file? packages were installed with apt-get. |
| 00:06.28 | Sia0-0 | apt-cache policy <packagename> |
| 00:06.42 | Sia0-0 | the-wes, ^^ |
| 00:06.53 | dmoerner | the-wes, dpkg -S file |
| 00:07.34 | Sia0-0 | dmoerner, this search the name of file |
| 00:07.45 | Sia0-0 | not the package if installed or not |
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| 00:07.57 | dmoerner | he is asking which package installs a file. dpkg -S tells you that |
| 00:07.59 | xulfme | how do I figure out if im using mod_ssl, open_ssl, or apache ssl? |
| 00:08.21 | Sia0-0 | dmoerner, u r right |
| 00:08.53 | Sia0-0 | also g8 |
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| 00:09.08 | the-wes | thank you both. |
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| 00:09.47 | d03boy | i started apt-getting screen adn then had to ctrl+c and now there's a lock. How do I fix it? |
| 00:09.47 | the-wes | xulfme - one easy way might be to intentionally generate a 404 page. if the option is enabled, apache will tell you which module is in use. |
| 00:10.11 | dmoerner | d03boy, dpkg --configure -a |
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| 00:10.48 | xulfme | it says "Ben-SSL" ? |
| 00:10.54 | xulfme | what is that |
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| 00:12.13 | the-wes | I'm not familiar with it. google has info |
| 00:12.13 | d03boy | dmoerner, thank you so much. I will have your babies |
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| 00:13.58 | the-wes | though apparently not much info. looks like it is less used than the other common options. |
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| 00:30.44 | aguitel | where i get new version of amsn ? |
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| 00:32.34 | the-wes | can anyone recommend a simple, very lightweight smtp relay daemon? no need for mailbox delivery, just accept and then send along to the designated relay. |
| 00:33.11 | ilembitov | Hi, all. As I understand, Debian Lenny won't include KDE4 packages. And when kde4 will hit unstable testing, will they replace kde3, or will they install alongside with it? |
| 00:33.13 | Benzi | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:34.15 | ilembitov | Benzi: I suppose, you should get packages from experimental. AFAIK, they aren't in unstable yet. Am I wrong? |
| 00:34.22 | Benzi | yes |
| 00:34.54 | ilembitov | Benzi: Are they already in unstable? |
| 00:35.01 | Benzi | apparently |
| 00:35.07 | Benzi | I installed some |
| 00:35.31 | dmoerner | rmadison says no: kde4 | 3 | experimental | all |
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| 00:35.41 | Tramp | !kde4 |
| 00:35.41 | dpkg | kde 4 is probably a new and not-yet-complete version of the KDE desktop. It will not be released with Lenny but backports of KDE 4 packages are likely to be made. See http://ekaia.org/blog/2008/06/08/lets-go-for-kde-359-in-lenny/ Experimental packages for KDE 4.1 are available at http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde4.html but ask about these in #debian-kde, not #debian. See <kde version>. |
| 00:35.41 | Benzi | http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org |
| 00:35.43 | ilembitov | Man, that's teriffic. I am looking for a platform to test KDE 4.1, since I need to write a review for a magazine. And I can't stand Kubuntu |
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| 00:36.02 | Benzi | "KDE 4.1 has been released and is available in unstable" |
| 00:36.24 | Benzi | wait a minute |
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| 00:36.30 | Benzi | then that page is lying :( |
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| 00:42.30 | ilembitov | Anyways, do I get it right that KDE4 won't be in Lenny? |
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| 00:44.55 | dmoerner | ilembitov, yes |
| 00:44.57 | dmoerner | !kde4 |
| 00:44.57 | dpkg | kde 4 is probably a new and not-yet-complete version of the KDE desktop. It will not be released with Lenny but backports of KDE 4 packages are likely to be made. See http://ekaia.org/blog/2008/06/08/lets-go-for-kde-359-in-lenny/ Experimental packages for KDE 4.1 are available at http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde4.html but ask about these in #debian-kde, not #debian. See <kde version>. |
| 00:45.50 | ilembitov | Great, they are likely to be available as backports!!! Thanks a lot. You made me really happy) |
| 00:46.21 | aguitel | where i get new version of amsn ? |
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| 00:53.05 | thing1 | is it possible to have two diifferent NIC's pointing to two different gateways on one machine/ |
| 00:53.40 | thing1 | like a nic with 192.168.0.11 pointing to 192.168.0.1 and one 10.10.30.51 pointing to 10.10.30.5 |
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| 00:54.41 | Somni | the gateway is part of the routing table; you can have multiple routes on one interface if you want |
| 00:55.28 | thing1 | how about one route on each interfaces |
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| 00:56.15 | thing1 | i have to plug one into one network and the other to the second one, in need to be able to gain access to both networks on this one machine but they have to be physically plugged in |
| 00:56.32 | thing1 | to different switches |
| 00:57.23 | thing1 | or could i have multiple routes on one, can ones of those routes would point to the second nic |
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| 00:57.38 | thing1 | and* |
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| 00:58.18 | Tramp | thing1: having multiple gateways (for specified nets) is easy. having different default-gateways is hard. |
| 00:58.39 | Tramp | thing1: from what you say I still don't get, what you want and what your problem may be |
| 00:59.30 | Tramp | thing1: what do you want to route to 192.168.0.11/10.10.30.5? |
| 00:59.59 | Tramp | sorry, ~0.1/~30.5 |
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| 01:00.32 | thing1 | i have one cisco switch setup for vlan4 10.4.30.x and another switch setup for vlan 10 192.168.0.x. I cannot trunk them because of other reasons, i am using a nat right now as a gateway from one net to the other. I want to avoid the nat, this would require me to have a machine with access to but vlans |
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| 01:00.49 | thing1 | both* |
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| 01:01.08 | thing1 | so i somehow need to setup tow nics, each with thier own gateway |
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| 01:01.27 | Tramp | thing1: gateway for /what/? |
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| 01:01.58 | newbie__ | hi |
| 01:02.11 | thing1 | i need access to other machines on each switch that are not part of the vlans the nics would be in. |
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| 01:02.22 | newbie__ | where can i download xcompmgr for debian etch/stable? |
| 01:02.47 | Tramp | thing1: so set routes to theses nets ("other machines") via their respective gateways. |
| 01:03.13 | Tramp | thing1: other1 via foo, other2 via bar, other3 via bar etc. |
| 01:03.45 | thing1 | the switch is setup to route to the other nets, as loong as i use it as a getway |
| 01:03.50 | thing1 | therin is the problem |
| 01:04.35 | newbie__ | what is the repository to download xcompmgr? |
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| 01:08.02 | ilembitov | How do I install a local deb package from command line? What args for aptitude do I need? |
| 01:08.24 | monobug | ilembitov, try #dpkg -i /path/to/debfile |
| 01:08.39 | ilembitov | Thanks |
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| 01:19.42 | pingouin | Aug 15 03:17:41 debian inetd[2085]: 6668/tcp: bind: Address already in use <-- why the log always tell me that ? i got a bitlbee server running on this port, but...something else try to take it or what ? how can i dig what's append ? |
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| 01:24.34 | sdasf | hey |
| 01:24.47 | sdasf | i keep getting this error wen i try compling tcltrf: configure: warning: Can't find Tcl configuration definitions |
| 01:24.49 | simonrvn | pingouin: something other than bitlbee is there, or trying to take that port |
| 01:24.51 | sdasf | can anyone help |
| 01:25.00 | lem0n | pingouin: fyi IRC runs on port 6668 |
| 01:25.10 | simonrvn | apt-cache search tcl dev |
| 01:25.14 | simonrvn | 6667 |
| 01:25.19 | lem0n | no ;p |
| 01:25.23 | lem0n | 6667, 6668, 6669 |
| 01:25.25 | simonrvn | (6667-6670) |
| 01:25.26 | lem0n | sometimes 6669, anyway |
| 01:25.30 | lem0n | and 7000 |
| 01:25.32 | lem0n | and 7001 |
| 01:25.32 | sdasf | now what simonrvn |
| 01:25.34 | lem0n | sometimes 4400 |
| 01:25.45 | lem0n | alot more than most people realise ;D |
| 01:25.49 | sdasf | tcltrf aint there |
| 01:25.50 | simonrvn | that's silc, innit? |
| 01:25.57 | lem0n | hmmm? |
| 01:26.02 | simonrvn | 4400 |
| 01:26.05 | lem0n | nah |
| 01:26.08 | lem0n | server->server |
| 01:26.16 | sdasf | i dnno simonrvn |
| 01:26.17 | lem0n | well maybe |
| 01:26.19 | simonrvn | oh yes. thanks |
| 01:26.26 | lem0n | but its also used for serevr->server on irc |
| 01:26.42 | simonrvn | sdasf: regardless, you need the development package for that |
| 01:26.47 | lem0n | /s -m irc.freenode.net:6668 |
| 01:26.53 | lem0n | i imagine freenode is open on 6668 |
| 01:27.00 | lem0n | most/all irc networks are |
| 01:27.03 | simonrvn | they open several, yeh |
| 01:27.06 | lem0n | yeah |
| 01:30.25 | Benzi | can anyone help me get electricsheep working with twinview? |
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| 01:32.36 | pingouin | simonrvn , lem0n : ok , but how can i know which apps trying to get the same port ? |
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| 01:33.53 | pingouin | i only run bitlbee and irssi on those 6668 port |
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| 01:34.28 | pingouin | in fact, only biltbee explicitly, irssi just connect to servers |
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| 01:35.14 | lem0n | netstat | grep 6668 |
| 01:35.14 | lem0n | maybe? |
| 01:35.16 | lem0n | iunno |
| 01:36.55 | felix-da-catz | Can someone tell me if there is an easy way to identify which phyiscal nic is associated with eth0? I have two intel nics in my system and I need to move the cable from one nic to another switch. I don't want to move the wrong cable as one of the cables is connecting an iscsi target to the network. |
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| 01:38.15 | sdasf | how do i search for something thats i dunno where it is |
| 01:38.20 | sdasf | like i dunno what .sh its in |
| 01:38.29 | sdasf | how do i search everywhhere |
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| 01:41.31 | carlo17 | ,msg dpkg nvidia_post_etch |
| 01:41.34 | carlo17 | argh |
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| 01:42.01 | bmh | hi all, confusing problem with my laptop |
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| 01:42.34 | bmh | i did a netinstall of etch last night, and obviously my network card worked; its a pcmcia card |
| 01:42.50 | bmh | but then as soon as it reboots and boots to the newly installed operating system, the card no longer works |
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| 01:45.10 | bmh | ... |
| 01:45.16 | bmh | scratch that, the bloody thing's working now |
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| 01:48.51 | shamike | would now be a good time to upgade to lenny? |
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| 01:49.15 | _Fabio20 | hi i tried debian |
| 01:49.25 | _Fabio20 | but i cant make wireless work |
| 01:49.37 | _Fabio20 | iwl3945 |
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| 01:50.01 | _Fabio20 | i installed firmware-iwlwifi |
| 01:50.21 | _Fabio20 | in debian sid kernel 2.6.26 |
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| 01:55.47 | sdasf | how do i add new src to apt-get? |
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| 01:56.51 | newsense | add the eb line to /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 01:56.55 | SQLDb | sdasf: edit /etc/apt/sources.list then apt-get update |
| 01:56.57 | newsense | eb/deb |
| 01:59.36 | _Fabio20 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:00.03 | sdasf | all i want is |
| 02:00.04 | sdasf | http://mirrors.xmission.com/debian/pool/main/t/tcltrf/ |
| 02:00.10 | sdasf | but apt-get aint getting it |
| 02:00.21 | sdasf | W: Couldn't stat source package list http://mirrors.xmission.com etch/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/mirrors.xmission.com_debian_pool_main_t_tcltrf_dists_etch_main_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) |
| 02:00.21 | sdasf | W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems |
| 02:01.45 | _Fabio20 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:01.52 | _Fabio20 | i cant make work :( |
| 02:02.11 | _Fabio20 | i installed firmware-iwlwifi |
| 02:02.16 | newsense | _Fabio20: http://linux-wless.passys.nl/index.php |
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| 02:03.04 | sdasf | why cant apt-get find libtrf-tcl-dev |
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| 02:07.50 | carlo17 | I just did update/upgrade using testing, and now I get when starting X: (EE) USB Mouse: Unknown protocol "auto-dev". |
| 02:08.01 | carlo17 | Why does that suddenly stop working?? |
| 02:09.46 | ttick | I've installed mplayer from the multimedia repo. I'm trying to get a DVD to play. What other packages would I need to install to read the (possibily encrypted/CSS) DVD? |
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| 02:11.14 | katullus | how can I convert ape to mp3 in debian? |
| 02:11.18 | newsense | libdvdcss2 |
| 02:11.22 | katullus | *ape+cue -> mp3 |
| 02:11.42 | newsense | ttick: libdvdcss2 |
| 02:12.11 | DogBoy | katullus, take a look at this: http://aidanjm.wordpress.com/ |
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| 02:12.50 | DogBoy | it's the same thing, you might have to go looking for the mac package or make your own |
| 02:12.52 | manu_hack | i have a 133M Xorg.0.log sitting in /var/log |
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| 02:13.12 | Zeroyez | is there a repository i can add that gives me newer stuff? |
| 02:13.21 | manu_hack | full of R5xxXAASetupForScanlineImageWrite stuff |
| 02:13.36 | Zeroyez | like everything in the official repositories for lenny and etch are ooold :x |
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| 02:13.59 | newsense | use sid haha |
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| 02:14.39 | newsense | or compile from source |
| 02:15.41 | manu_hack | and booting in M$ Vista shit gave me 1G of memory while lenng gave me only 900 |
| 02:16.02 | rahul | Zeroyez: you really think that month-old software is too old? |
| 02:17.43 | Zeroyez | yes! |
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| 02:18.18 | Ergo^ | hello guys |
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| 02:19.08 | Ergo^ | i wanted to ask a bit on improvements on lenny, can i see somewhere hardware compatibility list for it ? especially wanted to ask about wireless always had trouble with setting up drivers and stuff myself |
| 02:19.58 | Ergo^ | also will there be inluded something like ubuntu's driver applet for easy installations ? |
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| 02:27.58 | bmh | where am i supposed to set PCIC_OPTS for my pcmcia? |
| 02:28.12 | bmh | looked in /etc/pcmcia but couldn't find it |
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| 02:30.57 | shamike | will ubuntu packages work on debian? |
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| 02:32.48 | Coweater | maybe |
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| 02:33.41 | shamike | Coweater,ok do i need lenny? |
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| 02:35.52 | Coweater | depends what versions of packages the package depends on |
| 02:36.15 | shamike | the reason i asked is i tried ubuntu and didn't like it |
| 02:36.37 | shamike | ok cool |
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| 02:37.19 | Walther | you could gutt it out and make a debian pkg |
| 02:37.44 | rahul | if you don't like ubuntu, why do you want their changes to debian? |
| 02:37.45 | sebas891 | hi folks, I'm having a problem, Num lock is activated at boot when X starts. i'm on a laptop... so it's a pain... |
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| 02:37.53 | newsense | can anyone help me with my wlan adapter http://paste.debian.net/14801 ? |
| 02:38.07 | shamike | ty |
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| 02:38.38 | shamike | i want awn |
| 02:39.02 | sebas891 | anyone know how to disable numlock in xorg.conf ... I googled around and didn't find anything. |
| 02:39.38 | rahul | google doesn't have access to your hard drive |
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| 02:42.17 | extor | http://pastebin.ca/1172291 <--- Does it seem that some of my memory mappings are lost in a black hole? |
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| 02:46.03 | rahul | extor: lspci will tell you what is reserving the memory |
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| 02:48.30 | \amethyst | extor: how much RAM is this machine supposed to have? and what architecture and kernel flavor are you running? |
| 02:49.19 | extor | it has 6 gigs and I am running an intel E6600 core2duo with an 965G chipset |
| 02:49.34 | \amethyst | are you using debian i386 or amd64? |
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| 02:50.32 | extor | the kernel is amd64 right now but the binaries are i386 |
| 02:50.36 | extor | Here, look at this: http://fedoraforum.org/forum/archive/index.php/t-157232.html |
| 02:50.48 | extor | As you can see this mobo has problems with the linux kernel |
| 02:51.34 | extor | Well read this particular post, specifically: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showpost.php?p=889944&postcount=41 |
| 02:51.48 | extor | As you can see...his mtrr has a lot more mappings than mine, don't you think? |
| 02:52.20 | extor | I am not sure how to translate all that hex stuff |
| 02:53.02 | \amethyst | extor: more mappings, but your are bugger |
| 02:53.17 | \amethyst | extor: you have two big mappings |
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| 02:54.26 | \amethyst | extor: oh, you were talking about mtrr |
| 02:55.25 | \amethyst | extor: ah, you might be on to something |
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| 02:56.36 | Sallll | anyone have any experience setting up phpmyadmin? |
| 02:56.53 | Sallll | I did a apt-get install phpmyadmin, and added the include to the apache conf, restart apache, but its not working :( |
| 02:57.16 | extor | \amethyst, do you see a discrepency? This particular mobo/bios is plagued with bugs when it comes to linux |
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| 02:59.32 | \amethyst | extor: not really... what problems are you experiencing? |
| 02:59.53 | skyn3t | l |
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| 03:00.42 | newsense | can anyone help me with my wireless connection issue ? |
| 03:00.50 | \amethyst | extor: it is strange that you don't have mtrr entries for very much of your RAM |
| 03:01.00 | newsense | http://paste.debian.net/14802 |
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| 03:02.30 | \amethyst | extor: those MTRRs look like they're for ACPI (the 4kb one) and maybe video memory |
| 03:02.51 | \amethyst | extor: the last two, that is, the cacheable ones |
| 03:02.52 | skyn3t | i stop my proftpd to re-configure and i just added a line *</Global>* now its wont work |
| 03:03.11 | extor | but what was the "missing" MTR that the guy on the forum patched by himself? And what is the significance..how does it tie into lost memory and speed reduction? |
| 03:03.16 | \amethyst | extor: I'm not sure what it means when a region isn't covered by an MTRR at all |
| 03:03.44 | extor | if I enable PAE on this mobo it crawls, slow as molasses |
| 03:03.50 | \amethyst | extor: his board was failing to cache the top 64MB of RAM unless specifically told to do so with the MTRR |
| 03:04.04 | skyn3t | any ideia |
| 03:04.08 | extor | and according to these guys the reason is the linux kernel is misalocating BIOS memory mappings in its mtrr? |
| 03:04.11 | \amethyst | extor: so that might be why PAE is slow for you |
| 03:04.32 | extor | ok so you mean the top 64 MB of RAM..was not being cached by the CPU L2 cache? |
| 03:04.49 | \amethyst | extor: sounds like it |
| 03:04.50 | skyn3t | XXX:/etc# /etc/init.d/proftpd start - ProFTPd is started from inetd/xinetd. - XXX:/etc# /etc/init.d/proftpd restart |
| 03:04.50 | skyn3t | ProFTPd is started from inetd. |
| 03:05.12 | extor | Perhaps L1 cache..which I assume is even more critical |
| 03:05.31 | Pavlz | hello |
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| 03:05.46 | extor | wonders how one can check if any memory gaps exist |
| 03:05.47 | Pavlz | i got an ubuntu distribution |
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| 03:06.05 | extor | Wow this concept is mindblowing...so many servers running linux could have this hole |
| 03:06.14 | Pavlz | i would overwrite by ethernet can i do it ? and if hoe to ? |
| 03:06.26 | \amethyst | extor: it sounds from his message like the problem is that the board is misreporting the ranges---they're correct in the BIOS-e280 responses, but not in the initial registers |
| 03:06.43 | \amethyst | extor: from the sounds of it, you would notice if it was experiencing the problem |
| 03:07.26 | extor | \amethyst, yeah but what if it is not the top 64...but say the top 4...then the difference may be too subtle to notice |
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| 03:07.42 | newsense | please can anyone help me, my module is loaded and says its active ive read /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/ and other online docs but still cant connect |
| 03:07.43 | Pavlz | could any say me if from eth0 can i overwrite an ubuntu in a debian ? |
| 03:07.47 | rahul | if the difference is that subtle, why do you care? |
| 03:07.57 | newbie__ | does anyone know where do i download XCOMPMGR or what repository do i need to have for debian etch/stable? |
| 03:07.58 | rahul | Pavlz: huh? probably not |
| 03:08.23 | rahul | Pavlz: oh, I see. no you can;t |
| 03:08.43 | Pavlz | so i must to wait |
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| 03:08.53 | Pavlz | that shops open |
| 03:08.56 | rahul | Pavlz: you can do the same thing as any other distro, which is debootstrap in a chroot and then make that chroot your boot drive |
| 03:08.58 | Pavlz | next days |
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| 03:09.05 | Sallll | anyone ever setup ProFTPD with MySQL ? |
| 03:09.09 | \amethyst | extor: the MTRRs you posted, is that from one of the slow boots with PAE enabled? |
| 03:09.15 | rahul | Pavlz: or just install debian normally |
| 03:09.28 | rahul | Pavlz: you just need a 100 MB ISO that you burn to CD |
| 03:09.34 | Sallll | can anyone help me out? |
| 03:09.48 | Pavlz | but i have not cd |
| 03:09.50 | rahul | it has ethernet drivers in there, and will download the packages |
| 03:09.55 | Pavlz | the shops are closed |
| 03:10.01 | extor | \amethyst, no that is from my fast boot right now. But I dunno---maybe I am just slightly crippled but do not realize it? |
| 03:10.22 | rahul | Pavlz: you can HD boot, too |
| 03:10.26 | Pavlz | today all is closed in italy |
| 03:10.34 | Pavlz | yes i can |
| 03:10.44 | rahul | Pavlz: use grub to launch the installer instead of ubuntu |
| 03:10.48 | Pavlz | i got more than 100 mb |
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| 03:11.05 | rahul | check if you can find the instructions for that in the install doc |
| 03:11.05 | Pavlz | i want to remove ubuntu |
| 03:11.20 | se7en | someone help me please with ssh -L ... i have irssi running on a remote server with irssi_proxy ... i forwarde the ports and connect localy irssi to localhost port???? ... my problem is now i need to manualy connect ssh -L. 3 shells for 3 networks. i tried a script just including the 3 connections with and without & backrounding but nothing works ... because as soon as connection 1 is made the shell is gone so connection 2 doesn't have a shell any |
| 03:11.30 | rahul | extor: if the crippling is so slight you don't noice, who cares? |
| 03:11.37 | Pavlz | if i take ltb i kill him |
| 03:11.38 | extor | ubuntu is swahili slang for "I dunno how to install debian" |
| 03:11.44 | extor | rahul, |
| 03:11.49 | extor | rahul, just a thought. |
| 03:13.43 | Pavlz | i need of a customized distribuzion i got 256 mb of ram and 30 gb of hd 5400 rpm on a thinkpad t23 ibm and i can't install software as openoffice or gimp |
| 03:14.30 | Pavlz | when i got support for theora and ogg audio, i am very happy |
| 03:14.34 | se7en | ok somebody would know how to set up a script that opens 3 shells with 3 different actions |
| 03:14.59 | Pavlz | i do the same |
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| 03:15.33 | Pavlz | i must to go in bed |
| 03:15.43 | Nyle | go |
| 03:15.54 | Pavlz | is late here in italy |
| 03:16.07 | Pavlz | is 5:15 a.m. |
| 03:16.13 | Nyle | its not late, its early |
| 03:16.31 | Pavlz | for me not |
| 03:16.45 | Pavlz | i go |
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| 03:16.53 | Pavlz | happy hacking |
| 03:17.06 | se7en | i need something like open shell 1 <-- do something && open shell 2 <-- do something else && open shell 3 and so on |
| 03:17.08 | wols_ | Pavlz: debian will work fine in that hardware |
| 03:17.17 | Pavlz | i left my nick but i am in bed |
| 03:17.38 | newsense | damn wireless ;X |
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| 03:18.23 | newsense | module loaded and says its active but no i can connect to my wlan |
| 03:18.27 | newsense | grumbles |
| 03:19.31 | Pavlz | at the same time if any would to go and try to use #p54u and invite others is free, the admin of the #p54u is Pavlz, (i) |
| 03:19.37 | Pavlz | good night |
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| 03:20.28 | newsense | they fix wireless in #p54u ? |
| 03:20.30 | newsense | hahah |
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| 03:21.16 | Gigantic | hello, anyone can tell me how can I record all the audio output without installing Jack or something? |
| 03:21.37 | Pavlz | in next days if you see Heidi left to stay her, is my girl ok ? |
| 03:22.26 | Gigantic | k rec crashes, krecord get lock on mic and the gnome one just record input chanels |
| 03:22.46 | Pavlz | i am a jelous guy (john Lennon) |
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| 03:27.24 | miksuh | for some reason gnome-volume-manager does not start after reboot and first login to gnome desktop |
| 03:27.34 | miksuh | and then automopunting does not work |
| 03:27.49 | miksuh | if you logout from desktop and then relogin |
| 03:28.05 | miksuh | then gnome-volume-manager starts and automounting works just fine |
| 03:28.14 | miksuh | any idea what is causing this? |
| 03:28.41 | zythmer | se7en: irssi supports connecting to multiple networks. But if you want to have 3 separate shells, look into 'screen' with the ~/.screenrc option 'screen' under the section customization. That allows you to startup a window with a specified command. |
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| 03:29.07 | miksuh | I have this problem on Lnny |
| 03:29.11 | miksuh | Lenny |
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| 03:30.08 | bmh | whats the easiest way to download the correct deb for pcmciautils using windows, so that i can copy it to my etch debian box? |
| 03:30.09 | lunch | anyone install tac_plus? is the current version working properly? |
| 03:30.22 | newsense | anyone want to ts a wlan connection issue, module is loaded and reported as active, im half way there ! |
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| 03:31.22 | bmh | i have another debian box here, can i use it's apt-get to download the package but not install it? |
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| 03:32.22 | newsense | bmh: apt-get -d package |
| 03:32.44 | bmh | thanks |
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| 03:33.30 | newsense | bmh: if im correct will dl to /var/cache/apt/updates/ |
| 03:33.46 | newsense | bmh: if im correct will dl to /var/cache/apt/archives/ sorry |
| 03:33.49 | zythmer | bmh: You can use debget. It's just a shell frontend to this: apt-get -q2 --print-uris --reinstall install $PKG # which prints out the URL using your preferred mirror |
| 03:34.40 | se7en | zythmer: got everything running 3proxy ports get forwarded to my box and i can connect localy to the 3 ports BUT i have to start manualy 3ssh port forwards ... i would like to automate this with one command "konsole -e "ssh ..." would work but i need to start 3 tabs in konsole establishing 3 ssh -L connections |
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| 03:36.07 | bmh | newsense, if i do that: |
| 03:36.17 | bmh | apt-get -d pcmciautils |
| 03:36.19 | bmh | it says |
| 03:36.26 | bmh | E: Invalid operation pcmciautils |
| 03:36.28 | bmh | if i do |
| 03:36.36 | newsense | pcmcia-utils ? |
| 03:36.36 | bmh | apt-get -d install pcmciautils |
| 03:36.57 | bmh | it says |
| 03:36.58 | bmh | pcmciautils is already the newest version. |
| 03:37.11 | newsense | try with --force |
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| 03:37.18 | bmh | nope, it's pcmciautils |
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| 03:37.40 | bmh | E: Command line option --force is not understood |
| 03:37.55 | newsense | or check ls-al /var/cache/apt/archives/ | grep pcmcia |
| 03:38.08 | newsense | might have it in your apt cache |
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| 03:38.44 | bmh | good thinking, but nope, its not there |
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| 03:39.35 | newsense | dl it off packages.debian.org if ya got www access |
| 03:39.58 | bmh | ya, just found it there actually |
| 03:40.00 | zythmer | bmh: apt-get -q2 --print-uris --reinstall install pcmciautils | cut -f1 -d' ' | xargs wget |
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| 03:40.36 | bmh | zythmer, you're a madman :D |
| 03:40.43 | bmh | thanks |
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| 03:41.54 | newsense | any wifi nuts around, got a connection issue |
| 03:42.54 | wols_ | !tell newsense about ask |
| 03:43.25 | newsense | got my module loaded and hwinfo repotss it as active |
| 03:43.50 | newsense | ive edited /etc/network/interfaces and installed wpasupplicant |
| 03:44.06 | newsense | but still no connection |
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| 03:44.26 | newsense | i can post my interfaces file and output of ifup eth0 if ya need |
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| 03:45.36 | allos | I delet the folder in the apache "/var/www" How do I recover? |
| 03:46.08 | newsense | http://paste.debian.net/14803 |
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| 03:46.16 | newsense | check it out |
| 03:46.31 | newsense | wols http://paste.debian.net/14803 |
| 03:46.49 | newsense | thats output of ifup wlan0 and /etc/network/interfaces |
| 03:47.48 | bmh | ok, next debian newbie question |
| 03:47.54 | bmh | how do i mount my usb stick? |
| 03:48.04 | zythmer | se7en: What you really want then is a way to start ssh and background it. Here's what I would use: ssh -2 -f -N -l <user> -L <local_port>:127.0.0.1:<remote_port> <remote_ip>. Once you type in your password (or none), it will background ssh. -f = background, -N = don't execute a command (only forward ports). |
| 03:48.17 | bmh | tried adding /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb vfat noauto,user,fmask=133,dmask=022 0 0 to fstab (as per a website i found) but it says /dev/sda1 not found |
| 03:48.28 | newsense | i do have wpasupplicant installed and have wpa/psk using aes |
| 03:48.28 | newsense | anyone that can help me please join in at any time |
| 03:48.28 | newsense | i encourage it |
| 03:48.51 | bmh | i can see usb stuff in my dmesg |
| 03:48.58 | newsense | !wols |
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| 03:49.19 | skyn3t | hey i run proftpd -t |
| 03:49.29 | skyn3t | Checking syntax of configuration file |
| 03:49.29 | skyn3t | - Fatal: UseReverseDNS: directive not allowed in <Global> context on line 152 of '/etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf' |
| 03:49.35 | skyn3t | my ftp stop work |
| 03:50.25 | skyn3t | and my line 152 is #debian #debian AllowAll |
| 03:50.30 | skyn3t | ops |
| 03:50.38 | skyn3t | .# .# AllowAll |
| 03:50.42 | pickcoder | newsense: does iwlist <dev> scan show any APs |
| 03:51.00 | newsense | let e try |
| 03:51.08 | newsense | didn know that command |
| 03:51.12 | pickcoder | man iwlist |
| 03:51.27 | yitz_ | What are some ways to go about creating an encrypted dir/mount? |
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| 03:52.05 | newsense | wlist wlan0 |
| 03:52.05 | newsense | iwlist: unknown command `wlan0' (check 'iwlist --help'). |
| 03:52.12 | allos | I delet the folder in the apache "/var/www" How do I recover? |
| 03:52.21 | newsense | err |
| 03:52.23 | zythmer | bmh: Assuming you use udev, it should only create /dev entries for devices on your system. Check /dev/sd* to see what's there. |
| 03:52.24 | pickcoder | man iwlist |
| 03:52.24 | ahlfors | yitz_, you probably want to create a filesystem inside a file, and then use dm-crypt |
| 03:52.31 | pickcoder | it's not that complicated |
| 03:52.56 | pickcoder | allos: you don't have a recyling bin... if you put files there and didn't back them up they're gone |
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| 03:53.40 | newsense | wlist wlan0 scan |
| 03:53.40 | newsense | wlan0 Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down |
| 03:53.57 | bmh | zythmer, there's no /dev/sd* devices |
| 03:54.02 | pickcoder | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:54.10 | bmh | and nothing appears on the terminal when i plug the usb stick in |
| 03:54.11 | pickcoder | just recreate the directory |
| 03:54.21 | allos | hummm |
| 03:54.24 | allos | thanks |
| 03:54.25 | bmh | i guess i dont have some hot plug stuff running? |
| 03:54.26 | pickcoder | newsense: then you have a driver problem |
| 03:54.55 | zythmer | bmh: dmesg should show something when you plug it in. It should say which device it's using. |
| 03:55.00 | wols_ | newsense: checked your syslog? |
| 03:55.06 | newsense | pickcoder: thanks, thats depressing but the most information ive gathered in hrs |
| 03:55.07 | wols_ | newsense: or kern.log? |
| 03:55.09 | newbie__ | where do i download XCOMPMGR? |
| 03:55.20 | newbie__ | for debian etch/stable |
| 03:55.30 | wols_ | !tell newbie__ about search |
| 03:55.43 | bmh | zythmer, nope, when i plug it in, dmesg doesnt report anything |
| 03:55.52 | bmh | although during boot dmesg has a few lines in regards to usb |
| 03:56.06 | bmh | usbcore: registered new driver usbfs |
| 03:56.12 | bmh | usbcore: registered new driver hub |
| 03:56.24 | bmh | usb usb1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice |
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| 03:56.33 | bmh | (there's only one usb port on this laptop) |
| 03:56.36 | pickcoder | newsense: if you're using wext and WPA-PSK then you only need to specify the ESSID and and wpa-psk <pass text> |
| 03:56.48 | pickcoder | ESSID == wpa-ssid |
| 03:56.58 | bmh | oh then it has one line of irq stuff in regards to usb |
| 03:57.01 | newsense | pickcoder: i have a driver problem too though dont i |
| 03:57.04 | newbie__ | wols_: ok. thx :) |
| 03:57.04 | pickcoder | s/and// |
| 03:57.05 | zythmer | allos: well depending on your filesystem, there are tools to recover lost files. |
| 03:57.12 | newsense | it makes sense to me |
| 03:57.17 | pickcoder | newsense: your system logs should tell you |
| 03:57.21 | newsense | ive tried many options in interfaces |
| 03:57.33 | wols_ | newsense: that'S why we told you about logs |
| 03:57.43 | newsense | well syslog complains about not being able to scan |
| 03:58.00 | yitz_ | No dm-crypt in my repo. Will try cryptmount, encfs |
| 03:58.11 | pickcoder | wols_: has a proper driver been identified? |
| 03:58.32 | zythmer | bmh: dmesg's file should get appended when you plug in a device if it's working properly. |
| 03:58.46 | wols_ | pickcoder: how should i know when he doesn't show the logs? |
| 03:58.51 | bmh | zythmer, uhuh, well, unfortunately it's not :/ |
| 03:58.58 | pickcoder | did anyone ask for vendor/device ID to look it up? |
| 03:59.03 | pickcoder | I just popped in |
| 03:59.05 | wols_ | bmh: then there are errors |
| 03:59.41 | bmh | ya, bugger this, i'm just trying to get a deb on to this laptop |
| 04:00.02 | pickcoder | WRC recaps are more exciting than #debian |
| 04:00.02 | pickcoder | :P |
| 04:00.02 | bmh | will just burn it to a cd, never gonna need the usb again |
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| 04:01.32 | newsense | [ 461.960905] phy1 -> rt2x00lib_request_firmware: Error - Failed to request Firmware. |
| 04:01.46 | newsense | got that in kernel.log |
| 04:02.04 | pickcoder | newsense: what is the device and vendor ID from lspci -n |
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| 04:02.30 | newsense | 00:00.0 0600: 8086:7190 (rev 03) |
| 04:02.30 | newsense | 00:01.0 0604: 8086:7191 (rev 03) |
| 04:02.30 | newsense | 00:10.0 0200: 10b7:9200 (rev 74) |
| 04:02.30 | newsense | 00:14.0 0601: 8086:7110 (rev 02) |
| 04:02.31 | newsense | 00:14.1 0101: 8086:7111 (rev 01) |
| 04:02.31 | newsense | 00:14.2 0c03: 8086:7112 (rev 01) |
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| 04:02.40 | Cholito | lol |
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| 04:02.47 | newsense | damn sorry |
| 04:02.51 | newsense | tried using the kvirc feature paste slowly |
| 04:02.57 | newsense | never tried it |
| 04:03.01 | Obligatory | I'm getting this error when starting k3b: "System locale charset is ANSI_X3.4-1968", etc, the message suggests it's problematic. |
| 04:03.02 | pickcoder | newsense: just find the PCI ID in lspci... then match it under lspci -n |
| 04:03.05 | newsense | guess it doesnt do what it claims |
| 04:03.08 | pickcoder | we don't want to see your entire PCI bus |
| 04:03.13 | simonrvn | not supposed to paste in here, period. |
| 04:03.19 | newsense | i know |
| 04:03.25 | newsense | im not new here |
| 04:03.28 | newsense | sorry |
| 04:04.07 | simonrvn | don't be sorry, don't do it. then you don't have anything to be sorry for ;). |
| 04:04.23 | Cholito | good point |
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| 04:04.43 | Obligatory | Anybody know how to set a USA locale so k3b is happy, the "Debian way", without breaking stuff? |
| 04:04.44 | newsense | how do i know which pci id it is ? |
| 04:04.49 | pickcoder | *sigh* |
| 04:04.49 | newsense | its a usb anyways |
| 04:04.52 | newsense | lsusb ? |
| 04:05.05 | pickcoder | sure |
| 04:05.12 | Cholito | having / and /home as different partitions, can I put them together? |
| 04:05.13 | newsense | Bus 001 Device 002: ID 050d:705a Belkin Components F5D7050A Wireless Adapter |
| 04:05.18 | Cholito | both are ext3 |
| 04:05.41 | mezolithico | this is probably a futile effort, but is it possibly to put stuff on to an ipod touch using debian? |
| 04:06.11 | mezolithico | i haven't jailbroken it due to lack of a computer windows |
| 04:06.22 | mezolithico | and i can't get it to work through virtualbox |
| 04:06.31 | newsense | pickcoder: does that give you enough info ? |
| 04:06.32 | pickcoder | well atleast the rt2 driver is correct |
| 04:06.41 | newsense | ii thought so |
| 04:06.44 | Obligatory | Cholito, copy the '/home' dir over to '/' & remove the line that says '/home' from '/etc/fstab'. NB: this assumes '/' is big enough, it may not be. |
| 04:06.50 | newsense | but why wont it work ? |
| 04:07.12 | pickcoder | you don't have firmware to load on it |
| 04:07.17 | newsense | no |
| 04:07.30 | Obligatory | Cholito, forgot a detail. Do that from a bootCD to your Debian partitions. |
| 04:07.38 | yitz_ | When I try to use encfs, I am getting: |
| 04:07.41 | yitz_ | fuse failed. Common problems: - fuse kernel module not installed (modprobe fuse) - invalid options -- see usage message |
| 04:07.53 | pickcoder | newsense: install firmware-ralink |
| 04:08.00 | yitz_ | fuse: failed to open /dev/fuse: Permission denied |
| 04:08.06 | allos | how to erase completely something installed? |
| 04:08.13 | Cholito | Obligatory: I meant joint the 2 partitions ;) |
| 04:08.19 | Cholito | make them only 1 |
| 04:08.25 | newsense | pickcoder: if this works im gonna send one of my girls to kiss you haha |
| 04:08.32 | Cholito | same disk, same FS |
| 04:08.37 | mezolithico | pm me if anyone can help with an ipod touch |
| 04:09.20 | newsense | pickcoder: i like this something seems to be working its installing a package |
| 04:09.34 | newsense | pickcoder: done |
| 04:09.37 | newsense | what now ? |
| 04:09.47 | pickcoder | ifdown and ifup the device |
| 04:09.51 | pickcoder | I suppose |
| 04:09.58 | Cholito | mezolithico: do you speak spanish? |
| 04:10.14 | pickcoder | I don't remember when firmware's loaded |
| 04:10.19 | pickcoder | I guess you may want to unplug it |
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| 04:10.34 | pickcoder | ifdown and unplug it |
| 04:10.38 | Obligatory | Cholito, I understand, my previous advice stands. If you want to resize, use 'gparted' before & after the copy as needed. Then zap the '/home' partition, & resize again. |
| 04:10.53 | newsense | pickcoder: ok one second :) |
| 04:11.23 | newsense | done] |
| 04:11.35 | pickcoder | if you plug it back in it should be redetected |
| 04:11.38 | Obligatory | Cholito, then again would the permissions be odd after the copy, hmm... |
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| 04:11.46 | pickcoder | check your logs for new errors |
| 04:11.48 | newsense | ok |
| 04:11.49 | Cholito | do I have to be in a live cd to do that? |
| 04:11.53 | Obligatory | Cholito, anyway, something like that... |
| 04:12.09 | newsense | plugged it in |
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| 04:12.55 | pickcoder | dmesg | grep rt2x |
| 04:13.27 | newsense | pickoder dmesg: http://paste.debian.net/14805 |
| 04:13.51 | pickcoder | you may be on your own at this point. I don't own a Realtek wireless card. |
| 04:13.55 | pickcoder | the firmware loaded |
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| 04:14.06 | Obligatory | Cholito, no bootcd... I guess you can copy it to '/home_bak', as root. Then edit '/etc/fstab', reboot as root, rename 'home_bak' to 'home', and resize as needed... but you'll still need a livecd to resize the partitions. |
| 04:14.07 | pickcoder | but it won't work with the chipset you have |
| 04:14.09 | newsense | ok so im close |
| 04:14.22 | newsense | i need a new adapter ? |
| 04:14.38 | wrench___ | hey all! How can I set a static ip? Did: `ifconfig 192.168.0.102 netmask 255.255.255.0`; `echo "192.168.0.1" > /etc/resolv.conf`; `route add default gw 192.168.0.1`; Still cant even ping the gateway. |
| 04:15.02 | bmh | i'm getting: |
| 04:15.03 | bmh | eth0: Tx timed out, lost interrupt? TSR=0x1, ISR=0x2, t=51 |
| 04:15.04 | bmh | and |
| 04:15.08 | pickcoder | newsense: if you can find the right firmware for it it should work |
| 04:15.15 | bmh | eth: interrupt(s) dropped! |
| 04:15.19 | bmh | so i tried to do this: |
| 04:15.21 | bmh | http://pcmcia-cs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/HyperNews/get/pcmcia/network/1/1/1.html |
| 04:15.26 | newsense | pickcoder: cool ill look around |
| 04:15.37 | Cholito | Obligatory: thanks :) |
| 04:15.41 | bmh | which says add do_scan=0 to PCIC_OPTS in /etc/sysconfig/pcmcia |
| 04:15.46 | newsense | pickcoder: thanks for your help i think im at least on track now |
| 04:15.53 | bmh | however when i restart /etc/init.d/pcmcia it says |
| 04:16.08 | newsense | pickcoder: wait |
| 04:16.16 | newsense | scan sees my net now :) |
| 04:16.23 | bmh | Linux >= 2.6.13-rc1 and udev is enabled, use pcmciautils instead |
| 04:16.24 | newsense | please dont leave now |
| 04:16.25 | Obligatory | Cholito, or you could make a tar.gz of home, that might have fewer permission issues than copy might. |
| 04:16.30 | bmh | i've now installed pcmciautils |
| 04:16.36 | Tramp | wrench___: (1) your ifconfig probably needs a "dev eth0" (or whatever IF) at the end (2) your setting of somthing in resolv.conf is both wrong syntax and irrelevant |
| 04:16.47 | bmh | how can i set do_scan=0 (or equivalent) with pcmciautils? |
| 04:16.54 | newsense | pickcoder: http://paste.debian.net/14805 |
| 04:17.30 | Obligatory | So, anybody up on 'locales'? |
| 04:17.51 | Tramp | wrench___: or rather its probably "ifconfig eth0 ...." not sure of the syntax. Rarely use it. |
| 04:18.08 | pickcoder | newsense: I suppose it's working then? |
| 04:18.17 | pickcoder | if you can scan for APs then it should work |
| 04:18.18 | newsense | got it |
| 04:18.21 | newsense | cool |
| 04:18.23 | wrench___ | Tramp: sorry...yeah that was a typo in irc...had it right on the box |
| 04:18.30 | pickcoder | ifconfig -a |
| 04:18.36 | newsense | had to remove some options from interfaces after firmware |
| 04:18.55 | newsense | gives me ip info |
| 04:19.04 | pickcoder | for wlan0? |
| 04:19.20 | newsense | pickcoder: i can express how appreciative i am thanks man |
| 04:19.24 | newsense | yeah |
| 04:19.27 | Tramp | wrench___: so "ifconfig eth0" shows the right IP and the interface is UP? |
| 04:19.32 | pickcoder | ping your AP then to make sure |
| 04:19.38 | newsense | wlan0 finally has an ip |
| 04:19.45 | newsense | and its one in my pool |
| 04:19.51 | Tramp | wrench___: i.e. you can ping the interface itself? |
| 04:19.54 | newsense | can ping it from other boxes too |
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| 04:20.00 | pickcoder | ok |
| 04:20.23 | newsense | pickcoder: should it connect at init time also ? |
| 04:20.32 | pickcoder | if it's auto in interfaces |
| 04:20.35 | newsense | or do i have to manually ifup wlan0 ? |
| 04:20.40 | allos | http://pastebin.com/d13be7134 |
| 04:20.42 | pickcoder | and the AP is available |
| 04:20.43 | newsense | pickoder cool it is |
| 04:20.46 | allos | hel-me pleaseeeeeee http://pastebin.com/d13be7134 |
| 04:20.50 | newsense | im gonna reboot it |
| 04:20.57 | newsense | has a beer |
| 04:21.07 | wrench___ | Tramp: I had the mac off by one letter in my smoothwall...my bad. Thanks for the help. ifconfig -a showed me what i needed thanks again! |
| 04:21.13 | newsense | been an all day process and it was that dam firmware allalong |
| 04:23.12 | Obligatory | allos, I don't get it, that pastebin shows you installed 'apache2', what's the problem? |
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| 04:23.30 | S[h]O[r]T | I'm trying to reset my password via single user mode and i keep getting Authentication service cannot retrieve authentication info. |
| 04:25.20 | Obligatory | S[h]O[r]T, why via single user mode? |
| 04:25.54 | pickcoder | S[h]O[r]T: grab a live CD, burn it, boot it, and then chroot to your real / |
| 04:27.09 | behrad | when I press ctrl+<letter> it change layout instead of do somthing like cancel process . it happens only in terminal . how can i sove it? |
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| 04:27.21 | S[h]O[r]T | Because its easier, but Ill do that now :) |
| 04:27.25 | S[h]O[r]T | if it doesnt work ill be back! |
| 04:27.47 | allos | Obligatory no exist archives in etc |
| 04:27.48 | Obligatory | S[h]O[r]T, root pw or user? |
| 04:27.49 | allos | =\ |
| 04:28.07 | S[h]O[r]T | root and user ;p |
| 04:28.11 | S[h]O[r]T | but root works |
| 04:28.26 | pickcoder | hm |
| 04:29.07 | Obligatory | allos, maybe so, but that 's not what your pastebin showed. I'm confused... |
| 04:29.13 | pickcoder | S[h]O[r]T: is this a console login? |
| 04:29.29 | pickcoder | allos: what are you talking about? |
| 04:30.08 | pickcoder | S[h]O[r]T: you can't change your password in multiuser mode> |
| 04:30.09 | allos | I installed Apache .. but the directory was not created! |
| 04:30.13 | pickcoder | s/>/? |
| 04:30.18 | pickcoder | allos: what directory? |
| 04:30.31 | allos | -> /etc/apache2 |
| 04:30.40 | S[h]O[r]T | What do you mean a console? Yes im consoled to it. |
| 04:30.43 | S[h]O[r]T | I was in single user mode |
| 04:31.28 | Obligatory | S[h]O[r]T, I think 'console' means not 'X', like what you get when you hit 'Alt-F2'... |
| 04:31.31 | pickcoder | allos: did you remove it by hand? |
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| 04:31.42 | S[h]O[r]T | Oh, its a server |
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| 04:32.10 | allos | yes |
| 04:32.20 | Obligatory | S[h]O[r]T, OK so you're trying to change the password on a remote server? |
| 04:32.43 | S[h]O[r]T | No |
| 04:32.45 | S[h]O[r]T | Im at the server |
| 04:32.47 | S[h]O[r]T | and Im in a live cd |
| 04:32.52 | S[h]O[r]T | and i get the same error after i chroot |
| 04:32.56 | jimisrvrox_ | hey guys is there any good linux video tut's sites out there? being a linux n00b coming from a good 15 yrs of using winblows im kinda lost but I know theres lots of reading involved but still..im running debian on my system and wished I knew how to customize my boot and cut down the processes so the system wouldnt eat up so much cpu resources. |
| 04:33.11 | S[h]O[r]T | I run passwd and I get, Authentication service cannot retrieve authentication info. password unchanged. |
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| 04:33.26 | allos | http://pastebin.com/d4beabff8 looking |
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| 04:33.52 | behrad | when I press ctrl+<letter> it change layout instead of do somthing like cancel process . it happens only in terminal . how can i sove it? |
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| 04:34.25 | Obligatory | S[h]O[r]T, that error message is sucky-vague. Maybe there's a bug report in that... |
| 04:35.05 | pickcoder | allos: dpkg --purge apache2 |
| 04:35.12 | pickcoder | then reinstall it |
| 04:35.20 | S[h]O[r]T | Is there any way to check if password auth has been changed and maybe something wasnt updated? |
| 04:35.38 | pickcoder | S[h]O[r]T: add a new user and see if it refuses to set the passwd for it |
| 04:35.40 | mxmx | can anyone hlp me figure out why my cronsjobs stopped working? |
| 04:35.53 | S[h]O[r]T | OK |
| 04:35.58 | allos | dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove apache2 which isn't installed. |
| 04:35.58 | dpkg | allos: You are moron #40 |
| 04:36.21 | pickcoder | allos: that's fine |
| 04:36.40 | Obligatory | S[h]O[r]T, what command (I know 'passwd')& args are you using to change the password? (please 'xxxx' any secret data) |
| 04:36.45 | mxmx | :/ |
| 04:37.11 | S[h]O[r]T | just passwd |
| 04:37.15 | S[h]O[r]T | Ok i tried to create a new user |
| 04:37.26 | pickcoder | mxmx: is crond running? |
| 04:37.33 | S[h]O[r]T | i did so and then it asked to enter the new password, it says password updated successfully then. |
| 04:37.39 | S[h]O[r]T | chfn: PAM athentication failed |
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| 04:37.53 | S[h]O[r]T | adduser: /usr/bin/chfn testacc returned error code 1. Exiting. |
| 04:37.59 | mxmx | pickcoder |
| 04:38.05 | allos | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:38.05 | mxmx | i dont think so |
| 04:38.09 | mxmx | i retarted it |
| 04:38.17 | mxmx | but it doenst sseem to be working |
| 04:38.21 | mxmx | *restarted it |
| 04:39.25 | pickcoder | mxmx: how can you tell it's not working? |
| 04:39.39 | mxmx | i have a */5 job not running |
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| 04:39.49 | Flinx | Hello all.. |
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| 04:40.11 | pickcoder | mxmx: is your time/date accurate? |
| 04:40.16 | mxmx | hmmmm |
| 04:40.29 | mxmx | should it amtter since its a every 5 minute job? |
| 04:40.32 | mxmx | but i'll check |
| 04:40.41 | allos | -bash: cd: /etc/apache2: No such file or directory |
| 04:40.43 | allos | =( |
| 04:40.59 | Obligatory | S[h]O[r]T, interesting, I just checked 'man passwd' and it doesn't mention PAM. Oh those docs... |
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| 04:41.51 | chrome | guys, is it true lenny will be become stable soon? |
| 04:42.00 | mxmx | pickcoder Thu Aug 14 22:41:56 PDT 2008 |
| 04:42.05 | chrome | or is it just more slashdot inaccuracies |
| 04:42.09 | SeveredCross | chrome: Lenny's in freeze right now, I think it's supposed to become stable in October? |
| 04:42.27 | chrome | aweseom, thanks sev |
| 04:42.34 | S[h]O[r]T | :s |
| 04:42.37 | Flinx | whats the best way to install the drivers for an ATI X1300? |
| 04:43.44 | pickcoder | mxmx: if you're familiar with the crontab structure then I dunno what else to look at |
| 04:44.06 | pickcoder | mxmx: are you sure the cron has proper permissions and is executable |
| 04:44.31 | mxmx | yep |
| 04:44.32 | pickcoder | S[h]O[r]T: have you had any drive problems? |
| 04:45.08 | allos | how do I install the Apache and create the folder apache2? |
| 04:45.11 | newsense | pickcoder: what option did ya say i needed to connect to my wlan at init ? |
| 04:45.29 | newsense | not connecting until i manually ifup wlan0 |
| 04:45.31 | pickcoder | newsense: auto |
| 04:45.36 | pickcoder | it's part of the device line |
| 04:45.38 | pickcoder | man interfaces |
| 04:46.15 | S[h]O[r]T | Not that I know of..its a customer machine actually. I dont know much about the system, user not too helpful |
| 04:46.15 | mxmx | pickcoder i hv eone job in my crontab |
| 04:46.35 | pickcoder | newsense: if the USB module isn't loading early enough then you may need to put "ifup wlan0" in /etc/rc.local |
| 04:46.51 | S[h]O[r]T | I think it maybe has something to do with the authentication method being changed in regards to something with mail? Showed some stuff when i was googling the error might be related |
| 04:47.05 | newsense | pickcoder: sounds good i think youre batting 10/10 today |
| 04:47.19 | pickcoder | S[h]O[r]T: is a common-<stuff> set of files in /etc/pam.d? |
| 04:47.31 | pickcoder | account/auth/password/session |
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| 04:47.48 | S[h]O[r]T | one moment |
| 04:47.52 | S[h]O[r]T | wheels over to the machine |
| 04:48.35 | pickcoder | mxmx: does syslog show anything about cron? |
| 04:48.39 | S[h]O[r]T | I see common-account,auth,password, and session in etc/pam.d |
| 04:48.41 | S[h]O[r]T | yes |
| 04:48.53 | mxmx | let me check |
| 04:49.09 | pickcoder | S[h]O[r]T: I have account required pam_unix.so in -account |
| 04:49.29 | pickcoder | password required pam_unix.so nullok obscure min=4 max=8 md5 |
| 04:49.29 | pickcoder | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:49.48 | Obligatory | S[h]O[r]T, for reference, my own 'ls /etc/pam.d/comm*' is the same, |
| 04:50.08 | pickcoder | for -auth it's only got auth required pam_unix.so nullok_secure |
| 04:50.22 | S[h]O[r]T | pickcoder i have the same thing in account except for nullok obscure min=4 max=8 md5 |
| 04:50.27 | allos | how do I install the Apache and create the folder apache2? |
| 04:50.32 | S[h]O[r]T | actually, excuse me. |
| 04:50.41 | S[h]O[r]T | in common-account it says account required. |
| 04:50.46 | S[h]O[r]T | ya ok. sorry confused :p |
| 04:50.50 | S[h]O[r]T | ignore me for a moment. |
| 04:50.52 | mxmx | pickcoder actually yes |
| 04:51.18 | S[h]O[r]T | I match to you pickcoder |
| 04:51.22 | pickcoder | hm |
| 04:51.31 | mxmx | bbr i ahve to test |
| 04:51.31 | mxmx | it |
| 04:51.35 | mxmx | throughfully |
| 04:51.46 | mxmx | however |
| 04:51.58 | mxmx | my directadmin_cron doenst work |
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| 04:52.04 | mxmx | bu tt i guess that's another piece of pie |
| 04:52.17 | pickcoder | S[h]O[r]T: and in chfn there's auth sufficient pam_rootok.so |
| 04:52.28 | pickcoder | along with @includes for -auth, -account-, and -session |
| 04:52.34 | mxmx | [23:51] <Mike_Totino> All men should wear bras every day. |
| 04:52.41 | mxmx | wth is witha these weird messages? |
| 04:53.01 | S[h]O[r]T | Correct |
| 04:53.04 | pickcoder | another spammer probably |
| 04:53.08 | Supaplex | don't worry about mike. he's a prepubescent teen. |
| 04:53.12 | mxmx | ok brb |
| 04:53.13 | S[h]O[r]T | Now |
| 04:53.23 | S[h]O[r]T | just for kicks.. |
| 04:53.25 | Obligatory | mxmx, I'm getting weird messages too, in chat tabs. |
| 04:53.36 | pickcoder | Obligatory: nick? |
| 04:53.37 | S[h]O[r]T | /etc/passwd doesnt have entries except for postfix and my test account. |
| 04:53.41 | Flinx | Any thoughts on how to get an ATI card working in Etch? |
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| 04:53.55 | Supaplex | !tell Flinx about ati |
| 04:54.00 | Obligatory | pickcoder, sorry, I closed 'em, one had 'Panda' in the name I recall. |
| 04:54.08 | pickcoder | oh well |
| 04:54.14 | pickcoder | I haven't seen one yet |
| 04:54.21 | S[h]O[r]T | Oh ya |
| 04:54.28 | S[h]O[r]T | i just got one from TraberTaber |
| 04:54.40 | pickcoder | same client |
| 04:54.42 | S[h]O[r]T | I think i may start wearing a bra, it was a good argument |
| 04:54.52 | pickcoder | rr.com has been spamming lately |
| 04:55.27 | S[h]O[r]T | So shouldnt I have other entries in my /etc/passwd? |
| 04:55.41 | pickcoder | S[h]O[r]T: you should have a few apart from root |
| 04:55.49 | S[h]O[r]T | I dont even have root |
| 04:55.53 | S[h]O[r]T | just postfix and testacc |
| 04:56.00 | Flinx | thanks Supaplex :D |
| 04:56.13 | Supaplex | np Flinx |
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| 04:56.56 | Obligatory | S[h]O[r]T, I have 57 lines in my '/etc/passwd'. |
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| 04:57.22 | Obligatory | (Mostly it's various daemons) |
| 04:57.29 | pickcoder | S[h]O[r]T: maybe someone goofed up? |
| 04:57.54 | S[h]O[r]T | Not a farfetched statement. |
| 04:57.57 | S[h]O[r]T | How can we fix? :D |
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| 04:58.18 | Obligatory | So how come S[h]O[r]T can login if his '/etc/passwd' is virtually empty? |
| 04:58.27 | S[h]O[r]T | I cant? |
| 04:58.41 | S[h]O[r]T | I'm in livecd via chroot. |
| 04:58.51 | Guerin | !nickometer S[h]O[r]T |
| 04:58.53 | dpkg | 'S[h]O[r]T' is 41.000% lame, guerin |
| 04:58.59 | Guerin | far too low, dpkg |
| 04:59.00 | pickcoder | S[h]O[r]T: edit a line for root to start with |
| 04:59.17 | pickcoder | you may be able to get info from the group file |
| 04:59.20 | pickcoder | for other users |
| 04:59.33 | Obligatory | S[h]O[r]T, do you have backups? |
| 05:00.08 | S[h]O[r]T | Pickcoder can u elaborate? |
| 05:00.11 | Supaplex | S[h]O[r]T: ls -l /var/backup/*.bak |
| 05:00.13 | Supaplex | !backup |
| 05:00.13 | dpkg | from memory, backup is something you should do *ALWAYS*... if you value your sh*t even in the least. Otherwise eons of buildup and data can go BYE BYE FOREVER one day if you do not backup, either by HD malfunction or by intentional evil by crackers or by mischivious glak elves that invade your system. Or even by large magnets that get out of hand. Pay the dollars for a tape system or CDR and use <tar> (plus optionally bzip2 at lowest compression), or ... |
| 05:00.21 | S[h]O[r]T | Obligatory, not my personal system so no I do not. |
| 05:00.40 | tacone | hello, where shuold .csr shuold be stored in the filesystem of a debian system? ( is there a standard location ? ) |
| 05:00.45 | S[h]O[r]T | Supaplex, doesnt exist |
| 05:01.15 | Obligatory | S[h]O[r]T, so you're fixing a client's broken server, yes? |
| 05:01.31 | S[h]O[r]T | ^^ |
| 05:01.36 | S[h]O[r]T | Yes :\ |
| 05:01.54 | S[h]O[r]T | Not hiding anything :) |
| 05:02.10 | rahul | so you're getting paid to ask questions on irc? |
| 05:02.13 | S[h]O[r]T | No |
| 05:02.27 | S[h]O[r]T | I'm actually not obligated to fix the issue. |
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| 05:03.15 | rahul | well, it looks like they broke shit badly |
| 05:03.28 | S[h]O[r]T | Agreed |
| 05:03.38 | S[h]O[r]T | But it is possible its doing some other kind of password managed? |
| 05:03.41 | S[h]O[r]T | Going around /etc/shadow |
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| 05:03.51 | S[h]O[r]T | Or i guess login management |
| 05:04.01 | Taras | "Virtually all public buildings constructed prior to 1980 contain some form of asbestos." |
| 05:04.01 | rahul | if there's no root in /etc/passwd? |
| 05:04.04 | pickcoder | S[h]O[r]T: make them back up /etc/ from now on |
| 05:04.04 | rahul | doubtful |
| 05:04.11 | pickcoder | :) |
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| 05:04.22 | rahul | and if there is some other method, they should be smart enough to tell you what could be wrong |
| 05:04.28 | Taras | "Certainly the government will not support anything that may be viewed as critical of asbestos when they're the chief cheerleaders for the asbestos industry," said Martin. |
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| 05:04.33 | Sashi | a question |
| 05:04.53 | rahul | Taras: go to #politics |
| 05:04.56 | Taras | The Chrysotile Institute, an organization dedicated to promoting Chrysotile asbestos use "under safe conditions", continues to receive money from the federal government. |
| 05:05.01 | Sashi | i made a subdomain in bind9 but now how can i make it "redirect" to a certain dir? |
| 05:05.14 | pickcoder | Taras: no one case.. go away |
| 05:05.16 | rahul | Taras: your mother gets money from the federal government |
| 05:05.17 | pickcoder | s/case/cares |
| 05:05.21 | S[h]O[r]T | Agreed x2. |
| 05:05.48 | rahul | Sashi: a dir? you mean a different zone file? |
| 05:05.48 | S[h]O[r]T | I will leave it in their hands to help me from here ;). Can't spend hours searching for waht they might have done. |
| 05:05.52 | S[h]O[r]T | Thanks for the help |
| 05:05.56 | rahul | Sashi: add a zone entry for the domain |
| 05:06.00 | Sashi | uhh.. |
| 05:06.02 | Taras | Why does no one here care? |
| 05:06.04 | Sashi | no thats not what i mean |
| 05:06.18 | Guerin | Taras: why should we? |
| 05:06.19 | pickcoder | Taras: it's way OT |
| 05:06.28 | Flinx | /join#vbox |
| 05:06.32 | Guerin | Taras: read the topic and decide for yourself |
| 05:06.33 | Sashi | i have the domain working but i added sub.domain.com in domain.com.db file |
| 05:06.37 | pickcoder | nite peeps |
| 05:06.47 | Sashi | now i want sub.domain.com to go to another directory when i put in the address |
| 05:06.54 | Taras | Many apartments were built over 30 years ago and often contain asbestos. |
| 05:06.59 | rahul | Sashi: what does another directory have to do with bind? |
| 05:07.09 | Sashi | i dont know? |
| 05:07.12 | rahul | Sashi: it stores the db in files |
| 05:07.17 | Guerin | Taras: why are you telling us? Piss off or the ops will ask you to more forcefully. |
| 05:07.24 | Obligatory | For the record, wasn't there some dpkg-reconfigure S[h]O[r]T could have used to add password files from scratch? |
| 05:07.37 | Sashi | so how do i redirect that subdomain to another directory in apache? vhost? |
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| 05:07.46 | rahul | oh apache |
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| 05:07.55 | S[h]O[r]T | Hmm.. upon boot it says something about. /etc/mail/submit.cf. Giving errors about RunAsUser and other things. Surely looks like someoen screwed up shadow. |
| 05:07.59 | rahul | Sashi: yeah, it's a vhost |
| 05:08.14 | rahul | Sashi: I don't know the details on how to config it, tho |
| 05:08.26 | rahul | Sashi: you can ask in #apache if you want to talk to people who use apache |
| 05:08.36 | Sashi | you use lighttpd? :P |
| 05:08.52 | rahul | I rarely run web servers |
| 05:08.53 | S[h]O[r]T | Obligatory: that would be great. I could care less about anything else as long as I can hopefully get a root back onthe system. |
| 05:08.58 | rahul | and when I do, they're usually custom |
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| 05:13.21 | Obligatory | S[h]O[r]T, I'm just guessing here, and haven't a system to test this on, but I'd try 'dpkg-reconfigure base-passwd passwd', or 'apt-get install --reinstall ase-passwd passwd'. If not those packages, something like 'em... |
| 05:13.45 | Obligatory | ahem 'apt-get install --reinstall base-passwd passwd' |
| 05:14.15 | rahul | he's got more issues than that |
| 05:14.34 | skyn3t | can anyone help me with proftpd its work before and now just stop working |
| 05:15.06 | Obligatory | rahul, one thing at a time? what would you reinstall? |
| 05:15.18 | rahul | Obligatory: everything |
| 05:15.26 | rahul | Obligatory: it's not his box anyway |
| 05:15.46 | rahul | he doesn't even know what kind of wacky customizations the client has done, which there are definitely many of |
| 05:15.51 | rahul | since chfn doesn't even work |
| 05:16.15 | Obligatory | rahul, aha, that suggests that he should run 'debsums', to see what's missing... |
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| 05:16.40 | rahul | or ask the client what they were TRYING to do in the first place |
| 05:16.45 | Supaplex | debsums'll work for non config files, provided the system is sane enough to install that. |
| 05:16.59 | Guerin | rahul: haha |
| 05:17.02 | zu22 | is there a command that will tell me all packages i have installed from a certain date onwards? like all packages i installed since august 1st, 2008? |
| 05:17.05 | Guerin | rahul: ASK the client? |
| 05:17.05 | Supaplex | 10 to 1, it'll flop w/o a working passwd+friends |
| 05:17.09 | Guerin | are you serious? |
| 05:17.09 | rahul | heh |
| 05:17.12 | S[h]O[r]T | Yup, i think im going to pro them again rahul. of course that was the first thing i asked and then they ignored it totally. |
| 05:17.15 | rahul | I know, I know |
| 05:17.15 | S[h]O[r]T | *prod |
| 05:17.21 | Obligatory | S[h]O[r]T, try: debsums `dglob` | grep -v OK |
| 05:17.22 | rahul | hehe |
| 05:17.26 | S[h]O[r]T | ok |
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| 05:18.10 | Obligatory | S[h]O[r]T, comment: searches all installed packages for bad checksums, n' stuff. |
| 05:18.28 | S[h]O[r]T | desums command not fonud. |
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| 05:18.37 | S[h]O[r]T | *debsums |
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| 05:19.20 | newsense | my usb network adapter doesnt connect at init and if i add auto to my interfaces file its not read at init due to too many options |
| 05:19.48 | rahul | haha usb nic |
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| 05:20.13 | rahul | newsense: you're unlikely to get anyone to make that kind of thing work unless you pay them :) |
| 05:20.16 | newsense | usb wireless nic |
| 05:20.21 | rahul | oh my |
| 05:20.23 | Obligatory | zu22, these files have what you want: "ls -l /var/log/dpkg.*" |
| 05:20.28 | rahul | big $$$ for that |
| 05:20.36 | newsense | fuck off ya dck |
| 05:20.44 | Supaplex | newsense: try the opposite of: |
| 05:20.45 | Supaplex | !tell newsense -about blacklist |
| 05:20.53 | Supaplex | maybe it'll work in initrd. |
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| 05:21.29 | liable | newsense: does it work ok when you configure it manually? |
| 05:21.35 | newsense | yes |
| 05:21.48 | newsense | Supaplex: how is blacklist gonna help me ? |
| 05:21.54 | liable | newsense: then we need to see what errors you get when you make it auto |
| 05:22.16 | SpeedyG | Hi, i've got a problem with my nvidia driver and openGL, as soon as I start something that requires openGL, X crashes and it states in the xorg logfile that glx isnt loadede. xorg.conf states that it should load glx but how can I check if it loads glx, and how can I fix this problem? |
| 05:22.17 | liable | newsense: sounds like you have just botched your interfaces stanzas |
| 05:22.21 | Supaplex | newsense: define init per your previous statement. like I said, "opposite" there's a factoid tidbit about initramfs+related |
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| 05:22.34 | newsense | dmesg says failed when reading /etc/network/iterfaces parse error line 13 too many options |
| 05:22.48 | liable | newsense: paste your interfaces file somewhere |
| 05:22.55 | Supaplex | ohhhh there you go. |
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| 05:23.14 | Supaplex | nm blacklist |
| 05:24.00 | Obligatory | SpeedyG, what version of Debian & nvidia card? |
| 05:24.02 | zu22 | Obligatory: cool thx |
| 05:24.19 | SpeedyG | Obligatory: lenny with an 8500GT |
| 05:24.29 | newsense | liable: http://paste.debian.net/14808 |
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| 05:25.34 | SpeedyG | and it used to work a few months ago.. but apparently something changed, the only problem is, I dont know what :) |
| 05:26.06 | Supaplex | SpeedyG: was it ever installed with nvidia.run? |
| 05:26.06 | Obligatory | SpeedyG, dag, that card's newer than anything I've used. |
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| 05:26.45 | SpeedyG | Supaplex: can't remember :/ |
| 05:26.48 | liable | newsense: check the wpasupp docs. i think the psk needs to be inside quotes |
| 05:27.15 | newsense | i can connect manually |
| 05:27.47 | liable | with ifup? |
| 05:27.48 | newsense | it doesnt connect at initialization time |
| 05:27.51 | rahul | um |
| 05:27.55 | newsense | yeah ifup wlan0 |
| 05:27.57 | rahul | newsense: that doesn't have an auto line |
| 05:27.59 | newsense | works fine |
| 05:28.00 | Supaplex | SpeedyG: dpkg -l nvidia-kernel-`uname -r` |
| 05:28.30 | rahul | newsense: did you show us the file that has no errors? |
| 05:28.31 | newsense | rahul: if i add auto file is ignored at init time by ifup |
| 05:28.39 | newsense | rahul yes |
| 05:28.42 | rahul | newsense: you said something about syntax error at line 13 |
| 05:28.52 | newsense | if i add auto to wlan0 line i get errors |
| 05:28.55 | liable | newsense: ok, post your dmesg output. |
| 05:28.55 | rahul | what does ingored mean? |
| 05:29.01 | newsense | and eth0 isnt even loaded |
| 05:29.01 | Supaplex | SpeedyG: or dpkg -S /lib/modules/`uname -r`/nvidia/nvidia.ko |
| 05:29.02 | SpeedyG | Supaplex: no packages found matching |
| 05:29.16 | newsense | liable neither interface is loaded |
| 05:29.31 | rahul | newsense: ehm... look at the way lo is specified |
| 05:29.40 | liable | newsense: i just want to see the actuall error when its auto |
| 05:29.41 | SpeedyG | iirc, I had to use the latest driver from nvidia itself, because that was the only one at that time that supported this card |
| 05:29.44 | newsense | i didnt change that |
| 05:29.50 | rahul | . . . |
| 05:29.55 | rahul | newsense: and it works, doesn't it? |
| 05:30.01 | newsense | yes |
| 05:30.11 | rahul | newsense: and when you do something different from that, it doesn't, right? |
| 05:30.12 | Supaplex | SpeedyG: then you'll need to uninstall it however nvidia decides. |
| 05:30.17 | newsense | but i need it to work if system has to be remotely rebooted |
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| 05:30.29 | newsense | yes raa |
| 05:30.34 | newsense | err rahul |
| 05:30.38 | speedyg_ | Supaplex: what do you mean ? |
| 05:30.38 | rahul | newsense: so why don't you do what works? |
| 05:30.39 | Supaplex | SpeedyG: uninstall, reinstall, whatever. .run != .deb so it's their own thing. |
| 05:31.07 | speedyg_ | yeah, but .deb != working |
| 05:31.08 | rahul | speedyg_: debian doesn't control how nvidia's scripts mangle your filesystem |
| 05:31.11 | speedyg_ | thats the rproblem |
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| 05:31.12 | S[h]O[r]T | Oblig, give up? :D |
| 05:31.20 | newsense | rahul: if i remotely reboot how am i gonna login and ifup ? |
| 05:31.24 | rahul | speedyg_: so #debian can't be expected to know |
| 05:31.31 | rahul | newsense: by specifying auto correctly |
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| 05:31.33 | Supaplex | speedyg_: are you running x64? I backported my own .deb from upline. |
| 05:31.34 | Obligatory | S[h]O[r]T, nah, how'd the 'debsums' go? |
| 05:31.36 | zu22 | newsense: ssh |
| 05:31.41 | newsense | ok gimme an exmple ? |
| 05:31.46 | newsense | example |
| 05:31.48 | SpeedyG | Supaplex: nop. |
| 05:31.48 | rahul | newsense: you already gave us an example |
| 05:31.56 | Supaplex | speedyg_: granted, it was a few months ago, but I'm using an 8800GT. 169.09-1 |
| 05:32.05 | rahul | newsense: and you just said you saw it |
| 05:32.08 | newsense | ok if i add auto interfaces file is ignored |
| 05:32.13 | rahul | sigh |
| 05:32.23 | rahul | newsense: if you throw auto where it doesn't belong, sure |
| 05:32.23 | newsense | too many parameters line 13 |
| 05:32.30 | newsense | where does it go ? |
| 05:32.37 | rahul | newsense: randomly throwing text into a file doesn't make it a valid configuraiton |
| 05:32.38 | SpeedyG | hm, and does anyone know why my backspace button isnt working in screen/irssi? :/ |
| 05:32.45 | newsense | iface wlan0 auto inet dhcp ? |
| 05:32.46 | rahul | newsense: you said you saw how lo is set up |
| 05:32.49 | S[h]O[r]T | obq, debsums no such command |
| 05:32.50 | rahul | wtf |
| 05:33.05 | zu22 | lol |
| 05:33.26 | newsense | lo is messed up i know |
| 05:33.31 | newsense | not worried atm |
| 05:33.31 | Obligatory | S[h]O[r]T, well first you need: apt-get install debsums |
| 05:33.34 | rahul | it is? |
| 05:33.35 | Supaplex | !installit |
| 05:33.35 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! *** Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. If someone suggests an application to you, it's highly likely that it's available via apt-get or aptitude. |
| 05:33.39 | rahul | how is it messed up? |
| 05:33.50 | newsense | why dhcp flag ? |
| 05:33.51 | Supaplex | S[h]O[r]T: dpkg's note was for you. |
| 05:33.56 | rahul | what? |
| 05:34.09 | rahul | newsense: sentence, please. |
| 05:34.18 | S[h]O[r]T | Dpkg, hates me :( |
| 05:34.18 | dpkg | S[h]O[r]T: I give up, what is it? |
| 05:34.18 | rahul | think in complete thoughts |
| 05:34.18 | newsense | rahul: you wanna help or just be a dick cause i got one a those already |
| 05:34.42 | rahul | newsense: you're throwing out random statements. how can I help you if I can't even figure out what you're talking about? |
| 05:34.53 | rahul | actually, non-statements |
| 05:35.12 | Supaplex | sentence fragments for the lose |
| 05:35.20 | newsense | ok rahul i speak english i apologize |
| 05:35.32 | rahul | newsense: why are you randomly putting auto somewhere in the file where it doesn't belong? |
| 05:35.33 | newsense | what language do you prefer ? |
| 05:35.40 | Supaplex | perl6 ;) |
| 05:35.45 | rahul | heh |
| 05:35.49 | newsense | rahul, where should it go ? |
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| 05:35.55 | newsense | easy enough right ? |
| 05:35.59 | rahul | sigh |
| 05:36.04 | newsense | what line ? |
| 05:36.06 | rahul | newsense: have you bothered reading the man page? |
| 05:36.11 | newsense | yes |
| 05:36.24 | rahul | great, then you have the answer |
| 05:36.26 | newsense | and i set it up the way i was told to by the man |
| 05:36.30 | rahul | nope |
| 05:36.34 | newsense | or i wouldnt be asking here |
| 05:36.47 | rahul | you randomly threw it in the middle of some line it doesn't belong on |
| 05:36.48 | newsense | rahul, i dont want shit from you youre an asshole |
| 05:36.54 | Obligatory | Hmm, there actually IS a 'man page'. |
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| 05:36.59 | zu22 | 太牛鼻了。 |
| 05:37.03 | S[h]O[r]T | Obligatory, I cant use apt-get since im not in a full shell. interfaces arent up..wonder if i can start them myself |
| 05:37.04 | zu22 | oops |
| 05:37.07 | rahul | see, if I did that, I'd be banned |
| 05:37.07 | newsense | anyone else wanna help thats not a dick ? |
| 05:37.15 | rahul | but newsense is a newbie, so he can call people names |
| 05:37.21 | newsense | im here all the time and help others |
| 05:37.26 | newsense | never seen you here |
| 05:37.30 | rahul | haha |
| 05:37.31 | zu22 | newsense: why are you insulting rahul he has taken time out of his life trying to help you? |
| 05:37.55 | rahul | newsense: why don't you read the first page of the man page, ffs? |
| 05:37.58 | newsense | hes giving me the run around and insulting my intelligence |
| 05:38.02 | Obligatory | S[h]O[r]T, from a livecd there are ways, one sec while I look 'em up. |
| 05:38.04 | Supaplex | newsense: is there a paste of it online? |
| 05:38.07 | rahul | no, YOU insulted your own intelligence |
| 05:38.10 | newsense | rahul: you dont liste i did |
| 05:38.24 | rahul | newsense: then why are you doing something it never says to do? |
| 05:38.38 | S[h]O[r]T | Obligatory, I think ill end the road here. I'd rather not spend hours fixing their issues for no $$$. |
| 05:38.41 | newsense | rahul, make it easy on both of us , if you know so much where does auto go, which line ? |
| 05:38.50 | rahul | newsense: IT IS ALREADY THERE |
| 05:39.04 | rahul | can you not read what you pasted? |
| 05:40.06 | Obligatory | S[h]O[r]T, to do or not to do, for $$$, ugh. Whatever... |
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| 05:40.29 | newsense | rahul: omg |
| 05:40.37 | rahul | newsense: lawl |
| 05:40.40 | Supaplex | *burp* |
| 05:40.41 | newsense | you dont see well either heh |
| 05:40.48 | rahul | I don't |
| 05:40.48 | rahul | right |
| 05:40.50 | Supaplex | !FIGHT |
| 05:40.50 | dpkg | smacks supaplex upside the head |
| 05:40.53 | rahul | haha |
| 05:40.55 | newsense | auto isnt set for wlan0 |
| 05:41.00 | rahul | newsense: no duh |
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| 05:41.13 | rahul | that would be why it's not loading on startup |
| 05:41.20 | newsense | so why doesnt wlan0 connect to my ap when the box starts ? |
| 05:41.27 | Supaplex | and yet you wait until newsense says so. |
| 05:41.29 | rahul | blinks |
| 05:41.33 | S[h]O[r]T | Well ya, but I have other things that im paid for :P. I surely thank you for the help |
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| 05:41.46 | Obligatory | S[h]O[r]T, no prob, l8r. |
| 05:41.53 | zu22 | !kill newsense |
| 05:41.53 | dpkg | crushes newsense with a free AOL CD |
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| 05:41.57 | zu22 | lol |
| 05:42.00 | S[h]O[r]T | l8r |
| 05:42.01 | newsense | keep it |
| 05:42.17 | newsense | zu22: wtf are you ? |
| 05:42.18 | rahul | I didn't realize AOL CDs were that big |
| 05:42.21 | newsense | stay out of it |
| 05:42.28 | Supaplex | if you want to torment people, there's always #windows2,000 |
| 05:42.31 | newsense | !kill zu22 |
| 05:42.31 | dpkg | chops zu22's head off with a whip |
| 05:42.33 | rahul | maybe they all joined together into one mega-CD in the landfill |
| 05:42.49 | zu22 | !lart newsense |
| 05:42.49 | dpkg | drops a truckload of VAXen on newsense |
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| 05:42.55 | rahul | newsense: I suggest you actually try reading the man page for once |
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| 05:43.11 | newsense | rahul: i did for the 10th time |
| 05:43.16 | newsense | you def mofo |
| 05:43.25 | newsense | blind i should say |
| 05:43.31 | rahul | (defmacro defmofo ... |
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| 05:43.43 | Obligatory | newsense, I'd try back another time, meet new people... |
| 05:43.45 | Supaplex | EMATURITY. have fun kids. |
| 05:43.58 | zu22 | defun 'fruit(apple,orange) |
| 05:44.03 | rahul | newsense: then you know how to specify what you want, since it's the first syntax the man page mentions |
| 05:44.15 | newsense | Obligatory: i will i know the regulars and who actually knows something besides repeating the same old crap |
| 05:44.21 | rahul | zu22: what language is that, heh? |
| 05:44.27 | rahul | haha |
| 05:44.29 | zu22 | rahul: LISP :) |
| 05:44.31 | newsense | rahul: i get an error when doing that dumbass |
| 05:44.37 | rahul | newsense: you never did it |
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| 05:44.39 | newsense | wtf dont you understand |
| 05:44.44 | Supaplex | enough of the name calling |
| 05:44.50 | rahul | newsense: you said you did something totally different that is not in the man page at all |
| 05:44.55 | rahul | zu22: erm, it's not LISP or Lisp |
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| 05:45.01 | newsense | rahul: im done with you stfu |
| 05:45.05 | Supaplex | if your spite is that thick, get some air |
| 05:45.19 | newsense | if i ask a ? in here your excluded by default |
| 05:45.27 | newsense | dont say shit to me |
| 05:45.41 | newsense | problem solved |
| 05:45.42 | skyn3t | i need help anyone |
| 05:45.49 | Supaplex | !tell skyn3t -about ask |
| 05:45.50 | Obligatory | skyn3t, yes? |
| 05:45.52 | skyn3t | i got my fpt back on |
| 05:45.57 | zu22 | rahul: i read it in an old Lisp book lol or maybe it was Scheme heh |
| 05:46.00 | skyn3t | proftpd |
| 05:46.15 | skyn3t | when i run this cmd |
| 05:46.16 | skyn3t | etc/init.d/proftpd restart |
| 05:46.21 | rahul | zu22: no, that's not scheme either. it might be someone who can't type trying to write dylan :P |
| 05:46.26 | skyn3t | its says |
| 05:46.28 | zu22 | rahul: haha |
| 05:46.32 | skyn3t | ./etc/init.d/proftpd: No such file or directory |
| 05:46.42 | skyn3t | i cannot restart |
| 05:46.59 | rahul | does that file exist? |
| 05:47.01 | skyn3t | but i can conect to my ftp |
| 05:47.01 | Supaplex | skyn3t: try reinstalling it. apt-get install --reinstall <stuff> |
| 05:47.05 | diveli | skyn3t: /etc/init.d/proftpd restart |
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| 05:47.11 | diveli | instead of etc/init.d/proftpd restart |
| 05:47.23 | skyn3t | ya |
| 05:47.24 | skyn3t | ok |
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| 05:47.27 | skyn3t | hang on |
| 05:47.44 | Zeroyez | the ftp.ca.debian.org mirror is going WAY slow today >.> |
| 05:48.32 | Zeroyez | where can I find a list of mirrors and test my speeds to them? |
| 05:48.34 | martijn81 | why is tha |
| 05:48.35 | martijn81 | t |
| 05:48.49 | Obligatory | skyn3t, Q: when you quote: "/etc/init.d/proftpd: No such file or directory", does that mean that the missing file is ""/etc/init.d/proftpd", or some other, perhaps unnamed, file that script is looking for? |
| 05:49.12 | skyn3t | i need that file |
| 05:49.26 | skyn3t | this cmd here did not work |
| 05:49.27 | skyn3t | apt-get install --reinstall <stuff> |
| 05:49.42 | rahul | I'm from canada, eh. and everyone thinks I'm slow cause I talk like thiiiiis. |
| 05:49.49 | skyn3t | i still miss the /etc/init.d/proftpd |
| 05:49.59 | skyn3t | ./etc/init.d/*proftpd* |
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| 05:50.15 | Zeroyez | you must be slow if it takes you that long to get your finger off a key :P |
| 05:50.17 | skyn3t | without this i cant restart the ftp server |
| 05:50.18 | Supaplex | skyn3t: dpkg -l \*proftpd\* |
| 05:50.54 | Obligatory | skyn3t, what's the output of: ls /etc/init.d/proftpd |
| 05:51.37 | zu22 | rahul: ever see Canadian Bacon? that movie is epic! |
| 05:51.42 | rahul | heh |
| 05:51.46 | rahul | I must watch it then :P |
| 05:51.50 | skyn3t | proftpd is the executable file in /etc/init.d/ |
| 05:51.57 | zu22 | you must, it has John Candy |
| 05:52.02 | Supaplex | I usually see Canadian Bacon on pizza. *CHOMP* |
| 05:52.03 | zu22 | shame he died prematurely :( |
| 05:52.04 | rahul | ooo |
| 05:52.09 | rahul | yeah :( |
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| 05:52.23 | Obligatory | zu22, I didn't care for it, MM has no ear for character dialogue, they all sound like him. |
| 05:52.43 | skyn3t | any ideia |
| 05:52.53 | zu22 | rahul: http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0109370/ |
| 05:53.06 | zu22 | Obligatory: can't please everyone i guess :) |
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| 05:53.26 | zu22 | Obligatory: that is a fair critique though |
| 05:54.45 | Supaplex | sigh... |
| 05:54.49 | Supaplex | !lart tftp |
| 05:54.49 | dpkg | whacks tftp with the cluebat |
| 05:54.51 | skyn3t | Obligatory : any ideia |
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| 05:55.01 | Obligatory | skyn3t, what's the output of: ls /etc/init.d/proftpd |
| 05:55.49 | skyn3t | ./etc/proftpd/ |
| 05:56.39 | Obligatory | skyn3t, "./etc/proftpd/"? |
| 05:57.37 | zu22 | skyn3t: type `ls -l /etc/init.d/proftpd` |
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| 05:58.01 | skyn3t | ./etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf |
| 05:58.07 | zu22 | ? |
| 05:58.18 | skyn3t | ./etc/proftpd/modules.conf |
| 05:58.20 | Obligatory | Argh. |
| 05:58.26 | skyn3t | ah |
| 05:58.56 | skyn3t | proftpd in /etc/ dir has only 2 files |
| 05:59.01 | SpeedyG | hm, why arent the testing cd/dvd images for i386/amd64 on http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/ :( |
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| 05:59.40 | skyn3t | ls: /etc/init.d/proftpd: No such file or directory |
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| 06:00.43 | Obligatory | skyn3t, OK so the init.d script is missing. Now is the 'proftpd' package installed? |
| 06:01.02 | zu22 | skyn3t: maybe it was never fully installed or you removed it somehow, i use vsftpd |
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| 06:01.42 | stew | he's not using the init script anyway, its being started from inetd |
| 06:01.44 | skyn3t | what is missinf is *proftpd* executable file in init.d *DIR* |
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| 06:02.08 | zu22 | stew: i don't let inetd run on my boxen :) |
| 06:02.13 | Obligatory | stew, d'oh! I never considered that. |
| 06:02.29 | stew | 19:25 < skyn3t> ProFTPd is started from inetd/xinetd. |
| 06:03.02 | skyn3t | ya |
| 06:03.08 | Obligatory | skyn3t, sorry, ignore my last few questions. |
| 06:03.13 | skyn3t | ok |
| 06:03.18 | zu22 | stew: inetd can be a security issue |
| 06:03.31 | stew | zu22: how so? |
| 06:03.36 | skyn3t | damn split |
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| 06:04.20 | tnks | even if a package calls groupadd, groupdel should never be in any package, righ? |
| 06:04.29 | zu22 | stew: xinetd fixes many of the problems but it had some issues |
| 06:04.41 | skyn3t | if any way i can remove that crap completly and install again without any problem i like to do that |
| 06:04.42 | stew | zu22: like what? |
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| 06:05.21 | skyn3t | i had try this cmd apt-get remove proftpd its only remove some files |
| 06:05.33 | zu22 | stew: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inetd |
| 06:05.55 | tnks | crap, I'm falling asleep. I'll probably have to ask my question tomorrow. |
| 06:06.03 | tnks | thanks anyway. |
| 06:06.24 | Obligatory | skyn3t, as root: "apt-get purge <pkgname>", note that the 'purge' option gets rid of config files too, which can be overkill. |
| 06:07.03 | zu22 | stew: generally i like to start exactly the services i want to use, i never had a need for inetd |
| 06:07.09 | stew | zu22: what about it? |
| 06:08.14 | skyn3t | •Obligatory• E: Invalid operation purge |
| 06:08.17 | skyn3t | what now |
| 06:08.18 | skyn3t | lolz |
| 06:08.24 | skyn3t | --->Debian |
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| 06:09.00 | liable | remove --purge |
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| 06:09.39 | skyn3t | same |
| 06:10.26 | skyn3t | same thing |
| 06:10.30 | skyn3t | invalid cmd |
| 06:10.39 | skyn3t | command not found |
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| 06:11.41 | skyn3t | apt-get remove purge proftpd |
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| 06:11.54 | Obligatory | skyn3t, I think he meant: apt-get remove --purge proftpd |
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| 06:13.55 | skyn3t | nah |
| 06:14.03 | extor | has SELINIX influenced web server security much? Made it go beyond the chroot? |
| 06:14.06 | skyn3t | all files still here |
| 06:14.07 | zu22 | skyn3t: dpkg --purge <package> |
| 06:14.35 | Obligatory | skyn3t, all files still where? |
| 06:14.40 | zu22 | skyn3t: apt-get remove --purge |
| 06:14.46 | skyn3t | in /etc/ dir |
| 06:15.06 | skyn3t | Debian dont know purge |
| 06:15.37 | skyn3t | ops |
| 06:15.46 | skyn3t | let me check |
| 06:16.41 | Obligatory | skyn3t, that can happen. Some packages, due to what their maintainers prefer, (or maybe for good reasons I haven't considered), don't purge everything from '/etc'. |
| 06:16.44 | skyn3t | Removing proftpd ... |
| 06:16.44 | skyn3t | invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/proftpd not found. |
| 06:16.44 | skyn3t | •dpkg• error processing proftpd (--purge): |
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| 06:18.05 | Obligatory | Admin dudes, I'm getting a spam message in another tab from "Entei_2000" about "Do u like 2 sk8board? So do I. Well..." |
| 06:18.40 | stew | Obligatory: tell #freenode, we can'd do anything about it |
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| 06:19.03 | Obligatory | stew. how do I tell 'em? |
| 06:19.03 | skyn3t | ya but when i do a fresh install of *proftpd* its finish incompletly without the *proftpd* executable in /etc/int.d *DIR* |
| 06:19.04 | zu22 | Obligatory: that is what /IGNORE is for |
| 06:19.15 | DogBoy | join #freenode |
| 06:19.26 | stew | Obligatory: same way you told us |
| 06:19.27 | DogBoy | but really you should register a nick |
| 06:19.37 | stew | skyn3t: /msg dpkg confmiss |
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| 06:21.44 | zack23 | Quick question unrelated to debian though I don't know where else to ask...If I get a colo that offers 1Mbps is the download speed decent on this? |
| 06:22.41 | Obligatory | stew, tnx, done. |
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| 06:27.21 | Obligatory | skyn3t,so '/etc/int.d/proftpd' doesn't exist after reinstalling 'proftpd'. Should it? Do: "dlocate etc/int.d/proftpd" to see what package owns that file. |
| 06:27.37 | simonrvn | init.d ;) |
| 06:28.06 | Obligatory | Ahem: dlocate /etc/init.d/proftpd |
| 06:28.33 | simonrvn | int.d won't find anything except integers ;p |
| 06:28.46 | skyn3t | nop |
| 06:28.50 | skyn3t | still not there |
| 06:29.16 | skyn3t | that's my main prob |
| 06:29.38 | behrad | when I press ctrl+<letter> it change layout instead of do somthing like cancel process . it happens only in terminal . how can i solve it? |
| 06:29.42 | Obligatory | skyn3t, that's not a bad thing though. It shows the file isn't in that package. |
| 06:29.49 | zu22 | simonrvn: heh |
| 06:29.56 | simonrvn | don't you have to update the dlocate db after, since he's (assuming he) just installed it? also, why hasn't he done the confmiss like stew suggested? |
| 06:30.06 | zu22 | is there a website that lists the websites of #debian regulars? |
| 06:30.37 | Obligatory | skyn3t, what simonrvn said. |
| 06:30.37 | skyn3t | Obligatory, that's the most importante file i need in this package |
| 06:30.37 | zu22 | i recall seeing something a few years ago, a wiki iirc but can't find it |
| 06:30.49 | simonrvn | sussudio's debstats sometimes lists their websites as a link to their nicks |
| 06:31.03 | zu22 | skyn3t: run updatedb |
| 06:31.18 | simonrvn | oh, tarzeau's old wiki. it's removed now, i think. |
| 06:31.27 | simonrvn | update-dlocatedb for dlocate |
| 06:31.33 | zu22 | simonrvn: yeah, do you happen to know what the URL was? i can try on archive.org |
| 06:31.54 | skyn3t | •zu22• what is the cmd L |
| 06:31.58 | simonrvn | somewhere on linuks.mine.nu *i think* |
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| 06:32.18 | zu22 | skyn3t: update-dlocatedb then run `dlocate /etc/init.d/proftpd` |
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| 06:32.29 | zu22 | simonrvn: k |
| 06:32.39 | skyn3t | update-dlocatedb: command not found |
| 06:32.48 | skyn3t | same |
| 06:32.53 | Obligatory | skyn3t, 'dlocate' & 'dglob' are your buddies. Between those two utils, you can find out where more any non-user file came from, excepting a few odd ones. |
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| 06:32.54 | simonrvn | /usr/sbin/ |
| 06:33.20 | zu22 | tarzeau_: is your old #debian page still around somewhere? you can leave me msg via '/msg memoserv zu22' if i am not here when you see this :) |
| 06:33.21 | Obligatory | skyn3t, is 'dlocate' installed? |
| 06:33.38 | simonrvn | probably not... |
| 06:33.42 | skyn3t | nop |
| 06:33.47 | Obligatory | install it. |
| 06:33.49 | skyn3t | i just got this server today |
| 06:33.53 | skyn3t | how |
| 06:34.06 | Obligatory | Nnnngggg. |
| 06:34.19 | Obligatory | apt-get install dlocate |
| 06:34.20 | skyn3t | apt-get install dlocate |
| 06:34.28 | skyn3t | done |
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| 06:34.56 | Obligatory | Now update-dlocatedb, if the installer doesn't already do that. |
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| 06:35.44 | skyn3t | its update |
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| 06:36.36 | skyn3t | i think i got something |
| 06:36.37 | Obligatory | skyn3t, now dlocate /etc/init.d/proftpd |
| 06:36.38 | skyn3t | hang on |
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| 06:37.50 | skyn3t | nop |
| 06:37.53 | skyn3t | nothing there |
| 06:37.57 | skyn3t | cd .. |
| 06:38.25 | Obligatory | skyn3t, again that's not a bad thing though. It shows the file isn't in that package. |
| 06:38.48 | skyn3t | allright |
| 06:38.57 | skyn3t | but if i need to shut down my ftp |
| 06:38.59 | skyn3t | how i do |
| 06:39.02 | skyn3t | or restart |
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| 06:39.16 | skyn3t | that's the main file |
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| 06:39.29 | ^shark_ | i use postfix so want to limit sme users to send mail of specific size while others have unlimited |
| 06:39.52 | simonrvn | #postfix |
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| 06:41.34 | Obligatory | skyn3t, silly question (I'm not a proftpd user): how do you know that /etc/init.d/proftpd is how it's done for that daemon? |
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| 06:42.21 | skyn3t | cuz when you need to stop the ftp or restart you run this cmd L * /etc/init.d/proftpd restart * |
| 06:42.40 | simonrvn | it is, i just checked, in sid it's in proftpd-basic package, and etch it's proftpd package |
| 06:43.03 | simonrvn | wth |
| 06:43.06 | skyn3t | and *proftpd* in /etc/init.d DIR is not a Dir |
| 06:43.22 | simonrvn | duh, it's a shell script |
| 06:43.37 | skyn3t | ima run Debian |
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| 06:44.19 | Obligatory | I like "ima run Debian", it's catchy! |
| 06:44.29 | skyn3t | :) |
| 06:44.35 | skyn3t | 0_o |
| 06:44.45 | skyn3t | i mean ima trying |
| 06:44.45 | skyn3t | lolz |
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| 06:45.15 | skyn3t | windGuy vs Unix |
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| 06:45.21 | skyn3t | whata fught |
| 06:45.27 | skyn3t | fight* |
| 06:45.50 | roxy_ | I can't find mod_publishing in ths package for apache2. Is there a prefered way to include content to all web page served by apache under debian ? |
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| 06:47.18 | Obligatory | skyn3t, as far as I know Windows (at least XP & lower) has nothing like 'dlocate', it's mega useful. In WinXP, you see some file, where'd this come from, and you have to Google it and hope somebody knows and is reliable. |
| 06:48.03 | skyn3t | i'm doing this sice 8 am today |
| 06:48.04 | skyn3t | lolz |
| 06:48.09 | skyn3t | since* |
| 06:48.25 | skyn3t | now here is 2:47 am |
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| 06:49.07 | Obligatory | skyn3t, Debian is nice, but it's no substitute from various necessary bodily functions... |
| 06:49.15 | Obligatory | s/from/for/ |
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| 06:49.24 | skyn3t | ya |
| 06:51.21 | Obligatory | ima run Debian. |
| 06:51.23 | skyn3t | bah |
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| 06:51.30 | skyn3t | i got a back file |
| 06:51.34 | skyn3t | :) |
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| 06:51.46 | skyn3t | ima going upload to http |
| 06:51.48 | theocrite | Who needs a life when you have debian ? |
| 06:51.50 | skyn3t | and wget |
| 06:52.40 | tenzind | can we install Debian/something like debian on a sharp zaurus? |
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| 06:53.38 | Obligatory | I must needs depart, fare thee well stout yeomen... |
| 06:53.50 | newsense | tenner: we? ya got a mouse in your pocket ? |
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| 06:54.04 | newsense | aight |
| 06:54.58 | newsense | tenzind: we? ya got a mouse in your pocket? |
| 06:56.07 | magentar | what does gnome use to automount devices? pmount? |
| 06:56.24 | newsense | udev ? |
| 06:56.56 | magentar | but technically you need root access to do that, right? |
| 06:56.58 | tenzind | newsense, ?? |
| 06:57.23 | tenzind | :) |
| 06:57.44 | newsense | i heard it from some old guy lol |
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| 07:01.35 | newsense | magentar: sorry didnt see your last comment, i believe udev was developed as a way for non root users to use pluggable devices like flash drives, ipod, etc |
| 07:02.13 | skyn3t | easy part but not for me |
| 07:02.21 | skyn3t | proftpd |
| 07:02.25 | skyn3t | is back in palce |
| 07:02.32 | skyn3t | place* |
| 07:02.48 | skyn3t | ./etc/init.d/proftpd: Permission denied |
| 07:02.54 | skyn3t | how i fix that |
| 07:03.15 | newsense | root ? |
| 07:03.16 | magentar | ah thx, what if i want to be able to mount fixed devices too.. would it be best to specifiy them in fstab or is there a better way with udev? |
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| 07:03.33 | newsense | fstab |
| 07:03.37 | magentar | merci |
| 07:04.01 | newsense | np |
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| 07:04.24 | reklipz | I just installed debian lenny using the lenny beta 2 installer, and it's got me running a 2.6.24-1 kernel. I need to install the kernel headers for this kernel, but non exist in the repository, only the 2.6.25 and 2.6.22. how can I upgrade to the 2.6.25 kernel? |
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| 07:04.46 | skyn3t | root |
| 07:04.48 | skyn3t | yes |
| 07:04.50 | skyn3t | root |
| 07:05.12 | reklipz | ? |
| 07:05.20 | newsense | apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.25-2.arch |
| 07:05.21 | roxy_ | is mod_publisher included in mod_python ? |
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| 07:05.59 | newsense | or aptitude install |
| 07:06.00 | reklipz | newsense: will this present any issues? why doesn't this happen automatically? |
| 07:06.23 | newsense | automagically you mean |
| 07:06.44 | reklipz | yes |
| 07:07.07 | reklipz | especially since the headers are missing for the 2.6.24 kernel... |
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| 07:07.08 | newsense | did you aptitude update && aptitude upgrade ? |
| 07:07.15 | reklipz | i prefer to use apt-get |
| 07:07.20 | newsense | same here |
| 07:07.29 | reklipz | but yes, I did perform an #apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
| 07:07.39 | skyn3t | yes |
| 07:07.40 | newsense | but i get yelled at when talking about evel apt-get |
| 07:07.43 | skyn3t | got it |
| 07:07.55 | reklipz | it is holding back one package though |
| 07:07.57 | newsense | i dunno |
| 07:08.00 | reklipz | which is odd, this is a fresh install |
| 07:08.08 | newsense | did ya use etchnhalf installer ? |
| 07:08.12 | reklipz | nope |
| 07:08.22 | reklipz | used the weekly recommended build off of the debian site |
| 07:08.29 | newsense | i had same issue with my bros comp with etchnhalf |
| 07:08.31 | skyn3t | i wish all of you was a women just to give a big KISS |
| 07:08.34 | skyn3t | l8ter guys |
| 07:08.38 | newsense | just installed with apt-get |
| 07:08.44 | newsense | no worries |
| 07:08.52 | newsense | l8er |
| 07:09.15 | simonrvn | i don't know you, no kissing allowed |
| 07:09.16 | skyn3t | afk - sleeping |
| 07:09.26 | reklipz | hmm... |
| 07:09.27 | reklipz | ok |
| 07:09.33 | reklipz | still find it kind of odd... |
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| 07:09.59 | newsense | i did too but ya cant eat all the mice |
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| 07:10.07 | reklipz | apt-get is keeping back linux-image-2.6-amd64 |
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| 07:10.09 | simonrvn | if you can't laugh in life, wtf is wrong with you? :) |
| 07:10.09 | reklipz | that normal? |
| 07:10.30 | newsense | i guess |
| 07:10.52 | simonrvn | it happens, yes |
| 07:11.03 | simonrvn | !held back |
| 07:11.03 | dpkg | [kept back] when packages have not been upgraded even though newer versions are available. This happens if dependencies cannot be resolved, packages are on hold or you used "upgrade" not "dist-upgrade" and new packages need to be installed. To investigate, "apt-get -s install <kept-package>". Also see http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/69 Ask me about <dist-upgrade>. |
| 07:11.07 | newsense | kernel might not be flagged as an update always |
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| 07:12.05 | reklipz | hah |
| 07:12.13 | reklipz | it's conflicting with the 2.6.25-2 kernel |
| 07:12.23 | reklipz | meaning, that once i install the newer kernel, it should go? |
| 07:12.53 | newsense | try a dist-upgrde |
| 07:12.55 | simonrvn | linux-image... i think is supposed to pull in the latest updated kernel |
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| 07:13.14 | simonrvn | ...so, if it conflicts, there's a good reason for it. |
| 07:13.23 | reklipz | out of a fresh install though? |
| 07:13.36 | newsense | yeah |
| 07:13.54 | reklipz | also, i don't have a kernel-image-2.6.25-2.arch package... |
| 07:14.12 | newsense | replace arch with your architecture |
| 07:14.14 | simonrvn | sure, that's not a regular kernel, that etchnahalf |
| 07:14.19 | newsense | i386 ... |
| 07:14.39 | newsense | should have quoted arch |
| 07:14.47 | reklipz | there only exists a kernel-image-2.6-amd64 |
| 07:15.07 | reklipz | err |
| 07:15.14 | reklipz | kernel-image-2.6 |
| 07:15.15 | newsense | oookkk |
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| 07:16.07 | reklipz | d-u seems to have done the trick |
| 07:16.22 | reklipz | for some reason I thought that d-u worked in a different way, but I guess now |
| 07:16.26 | reklipz | guess not |
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| 07:18.16 | reklipz | all this mess just to escape the time stamp counter issue with VMware |
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| 07:20.59 | skyn3t | yahuu |
| 07:21.02 | skyn3t | back again |
| 07:21.34 | skyn3t | how i can set W/R permission in ./home/sky/data/ |
| 07:21.47 | Guerin | skyn3t: man chmod |
| 07:22.12 | skyn3t | man chmod /home/sky/data/ |
| 07:22.15 | skyn3t | like that |
| 07:22.21 | Guerin | no |
| 07:22.25 | reklipz | !tell skyn3t chmod |
| 07:22.26 | Guerin | just man chmod |
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| 07:22.28 | simonrvn | Guerin: kwe kwe |
| 07:22.40 | reklipz | !tell chmod skyn3t |
| 07:22.46 | Guerin | simonrvn: g'day si |
| 07:22.46 | skyn3t | :( |
| 07:22.48 | reklipz | i must be stupid.. |
| 07:22.56 | Guerin | reklipz: about |
| 07:22.59 | simonrvn | nick factoid |
| 07:23.01 | reklipz | aobut !tell |
| 07:23.03 | SpeedyG | !tell skyn3t -about chmod |
| 07:23.05 | Guerin | ... |
| 07:23.06 | simonrvn | and that =) |
| 07:23.12 | SpeedyG | like that :) |
| 07:23.26 | simonrvn | :) |
| 07:23.33 | ^shark_ | for any one who wanted an answer to my query, I found "ACL Policy Daemon for Postfix" at http://www.apolicy.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi and seems to fit |
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| 07:23.41 | reklipz | SpeedyG: thx |
| 07:23.53 | reklipz | tell me about tell |
| 07:23.58 | reklipz | !tell me aobut tell |
| 07:24.00 | reklipz | .. |
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| 07:24.12 | reklipz | !tell me about tell |
| 07:24.50 | mxmx | hnnn |
| 07:24.57 | mxmx | obnauticus |
| 07:25.04 | obnauticus | what? |
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| 07:25.28 | mxmx | nm |
| 07:25.30 | mxmx | wronc nick |
| 07:25.44 | tecky | lawl |
| 07:26.03 | mxmx | does anyone know what this means? |
| 07:26.05 | mxmx | Aug 15 01:20:01 server /USR/SBIN/CRON[8375]: (root) CMD (/usr/bin/php -q /home/admin/domains/xxxxxx/xxx/xx/xxxxxx/cron.php) |
| 07:26.08 | reklipz | obnauticus is the only user with ob*... someone is abusing tab! |
| 07:26.29 | obnauticus | holy hell. |
| 07:26.39 | mxmx | reklipz at this time, but there was another user: <Obligatory> |
| 07:26.54 | reklipz | thinks that means that a cron job was ran bu user root at 01:20:01 on aug 15 |
| 07:27.00 | SpeedyG | reklipz: it is also possible to ask dpkg stuff in private... instead of trying all commands in this channel :p |
| 07:27.04 | mxmx | but it didnt really ran! |
| 07:27.04 | reklipz | mxmx: nice save, :) |
| 07:27.12 | mxmx | tty ty |
| 07:27.13 | reklipz | SpeedyG: I knew about that one |
| 07:27.24 | simonrvn | mxmx: like reklipz said, it's just a cronjob running |
| 07:27.29 | mxmx | grr |
| 07:27.36 | mxmx | it doenst really run |
| 07:27.41 | reklipz | it thinks it does |
| 07:27.47 | reklipz | maybe there is an error in the php script |
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| 07:28.02 | reklipz | and php is dying without executing |
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| 07:28.12 | mxmx | if i go to th e php bia webbrowser, it works perfectly |
| 07:28.17 | mxmx | *via |
| 07:28.46 | reklipz | pastebin |
| 07:28.52 | reklipz | oops. pastebin? |
| 07:28.55 | mxmx | php is zend-ed |
| 07:29.17 | reklipz | so, when you run that cmd via CLI, does it work as expected? |
| 07:29.21 | mxmx | then i have germans trying to hack me |
| 07:29.24 | mxmx | Aug 15 01:19:55 server proftpd[8361]: localhost.localdomain (213.165.89.41[213.165.89.41]) - no such user 'clamav' |
| 07:29.24 | ferran1 | Hi all, I'm problems with my server in debian 4.0, don't accept ssh connections and ssh-vulkey says "COMPROMISED" keys, but I'm re-generated the keys and says the same, any suggestion??, tnaks! |
| 07:29.38 | mxmx | reklipz yes |
| 07:29.54 | SpeedyG | mxmx: well, thats just some issue that comes with running servers innit? :p |
| 07:30.12 | mxmx | ya |
| 07:30.29 | reklipz | well, that's as far as my services go, i'm not familiar with cron. I don't even know why i get mail about cron jobs. wish i did, but i dont |
| 07:31.02 | reklipz | mxmx: when you run the cmd, is the environment the same as when cron does? aka, are you root? |
| 07:31.14 | ferran1 | when I'm connect to server from another machine, says "Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer" |
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| 07:32.14 | reklipz | ferran1: the only advice I can give is to delete the ~/.ssh directory for the user you are trying to connect with. it's not very good advice, but that's where I might start if it was my install |
| 07:32.14 | mxmx | reklipz |
| 07:32.16 | mxmx | thats easy |
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| 07:32.31 | mxmx | if u dont wanna get emails with cron add the following after the cronjob |
| 07:33.03 | reklipz | mxmx: one problem, i never created a cron job |
| 07:33.08 | mxmx | >/dev/null 2>&1 |
| 07:33.09 | reklipz | at least not manually |
| 07:33.09 | simonrvn | at the top, put MAIL= |
| 07:33.14 | mxmx | oh |
| 07:33.26 | mxmx | maybe a script that u sue on ur website? |
| 07:33.34 | mxmx | u s e |
| 07:33.35 | simonrvn | reklipz: are you the user that gets root's mail? if so, that's why. |
| 07:33.42 | reklipz | simonrvn: could be |
| 07:33.45 | ferran1 | reklipz: I'm remove the directory ~/.ssh but says: "Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer" |
| 07:33.56 | reklipz | ferran1: hmm |
| 07:34.13 | reklipz | i'm gonna assume you have the ip correct and that openssh is indeed running |
| 07:34.28 | mxmx | reklipz I set teh cronjob as root |
| 07:34.39 | reklipz | ah drat, now i'm having issues with my openssh install, :) |
| 07:34.41 | mxmx | but the command can acuatlly be ra by anybody via webbrwoser |
| 07:34.58 | mxmx | *be ran |
| 07:35.07 | reklipz | mxmx: can you get root access to the server? |
| 07:35.11 | mxmx | yes |
| 07:35.19 | reklipz | can you try running the cmd as root? |
| 07:35.28 | mxmx | which commnad? |
| 07:35.39 | ferran1 | reklipz: when execute the "sudo nmap localhost" the daemon ssh port 22 its |
| 07:35.56 | ferran1 | reklipz: when execute the "sudo nmap localhost" the daemon ssh port 22 it's ok. |
| 07:36.27 | reklipz | ferran1: can you ssh into the machine from itself? |
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| 07:37.02 | ferran1 | reklipz: good, one moment |
| 07:37.31 | mxmx | zzz |
| 07:37.36 | reklipz | ah drat, now i'm having issues with my openssh install, :)--- we're ok, my 3TB mount is being fsck'd, taking a while... |
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| 07:37.41 | ferran1 | reklipz: uups nop, says "Connection closed by UNKNOWN" |
| 07:37.43 | reklipz | mxmx, sorry |
| 07:37.48 | mxmx | its ok |
| 07:37.58 | reklipz | mxmx: /usr/bin/php -q /home/admin/domains/xxxxxx/xxx/xx/xxxxxx/cron.php |
| 07:38.05 | mxmx | oh |
| 07:38.08 | mxmx | run it mannuallly? |
| 07:38.11 | reklipz | indeed |
| 07:38.51 | reklipz | ferran1: uups? |
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| 07:39.02 | mxmx | 1 question before |
| 07:39.04 | mxmx | Aug 15 01:29:22 server named[2549]: unexpected RCODE (REFUSED) resolving 'kirmesclub-schwarz.de/A/IN': 212.78.206.22#53 |
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| 07:39.07 | mxmx | what does that mean? |
| 07:39.19 | reklipz | mxmx: which log is that in? |
| 07:39.30 | mxmx | syslog |
| 07:39.43 | ma3x | can i change my /etc/apt/souces.list from testing > stable and start using stable? because debian testing becomes stable next month |
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| 07:40.42 | reklipz | mxmx, not sure, google is your friend. seems to be something with name forwarding and ???bind??? |
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| 07:41.12 | reklipz | !tell ma3xabout etch->lenny |
| 07:41.27 | mxmx | i gues |
| 07:41.27 | reklipz | !tell ma3x about etch->lenny |
| 07:41.29 | mxmx | ssoooooooo |
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| 07:41.33 | mxmx | no wonder its not working |
| 07:41.41 | mxmx | -bash: /usr/bin/php: No such file or directory |
| 07:41.45 | mxmx | :/ |
| 07:41.49 | SpeedyG | ma3x: what I did last time that happened, was just change the repos to the current release (so in this case, testing > lenny) , so it remained lenny after it switched from testing to stable |
| 07:41.51 | mxmx | my debiatch etch is soo weird |
| 07:41.53 | reklipz | mxmx: :) |
| 07:42.15 | mxmx | where can i find php in debian etch? |
| 07:42.24 | reklipz | ma3x: sorry, i misunderstood your question |
| 07:42.27 | SpeedyG | and after the transition, I changed it to stable |
| 07:42.30 | Sling | libapache2-php5 |
| 07:42.31 | reklipz | mxmx: which version? |
| 07:42.36 | mxmx | etch |
| 07:42.39 | mxmx | well |
| 07:42.40 | mxmx | hold on |
| 07:42.40 | reklipz | of php |
| 07:42.51 | mxmx | 5 |
| 07:43.00 | Sling | libapache2-mod-php5 |
| 07:43.02 | reklipz | i usually just #apt-get install php5 |
| 07:43.03 | Sling | that one |
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| 07:43.20 | ma3x | SpeedyG: it remained lenny? |
| 07:43.32 | reklipz | ma3x: the names of the releases wont change |
| 07:43.49 | reklipz | so, if you put lenny in there, once it becomes stable, you will be using stable |
| 07:43.50 | ma3x | so there is no use of doing it |
| 07:44.06 | mxmx | does not have libapache dir |
| 07:44.13 | reklipz | ma3x: not that I can see, unless you are upgrading from etch (which I thought originally) |
| 07:44.22 | ma3x | correct me if im wrong but the distribution will be stable, only the name wont change |
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| 07:44.33 | reklipz | ma3x: from what I gather |
| 07:44.48 | reklipz | mxmx: you found your problem then? |
| 07:44.52 | ma3x | okay i'll stick with lenny then |
| 07:44.59 | mxmx | yes |
| 07:45.03 | mxmx | but now i cant find php5 |
| 07:45.12 | reklipz | find as in, it's already installed? |
| 07:45.21 | mxmx | its insalled |
| 07:45.23 | mxmx | jsut dont know where |
| 07:46.11 | reklipz | to /usr/bin/php more than likely |
| 07:46.11 | mxmx | yeah |
| 07:46.11 | reklipz | #find / | grep php |
| 07:46.11 | mxmx | it's in /usr/bin/php5 |
| 07:46.11 | reklipz | there you have it |
| 07:46.15 | SpeedyG | ma3x: what I did last time, at the switch from sarge -> etch, I had a box running 'testing'(etch), but wanted it to remain etch after etch became stable |
| 07:46.35 | SpeedyG | ma3x: so I changed all references in my sources list to 'etch' instead of 'testing' |
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| 07:47.22 | ma3x | what will be the name of the new stable distrubution |
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| 07:48.00 | newsense | any characters lleft? |
| 07:48.10 | reklipz | now, time for me to ask a question: I've got an installation configured to used active directory for user authentication. this works fine, no issues there. what i'm wondering is, how can I limit the users that can login successfully? I would like to limit them by a group in the active directory, but don't know how to do this. (I hope it's similar to kerberos auth with apache2, that was simple) |
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| 07:48.24 | reklipz | ma3x: the new stable after etch is lenny |
| 07:48.30 | reklipz | after lenny is sid I believe |
| 07:48.47 | reklipz | after sid, well, that's a ways off... |
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| 07:49.27 | newsense | +lenny |
| 07:49.29 | SpeedyG | reklipz: sid will never be stable :) |
| 07:49.35 | reklipz | :P |
| 07:49.43 | SpeedyG | reklipz: sid always remains sid and thus always remains unstable :p |
| 07:49.49 | newsense | err lenny will be stable sid is always unstable |
| 07:49.58 | reklipz | SpeedyG: oh wow |
| 07:49.59 | newsense | testing gets the new name |
| 07:50.03 | barnum | etch->lenny might just set a new speed record for debian |
| 07:50.15 | reklipz | you learn something new every day |
| 07:50.37 | SpeedyG | reklipz: all the names are based on the characters in toy-story.. and that pesky kid(sid) will never grow up :P |
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| 07:51.17 | newsense | what will testing be callled though ? |
| 07:51.18 | ferran1 | thanks, bye |
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| 07:51.25 | reklipz | ferran1: you get it to work..... |
| 07:51.34 | reklipz | newsense: no one knows |
| 07:51.35 | newsense | didnt think there were any characters left |
| 07:51.36 | cafuego | bitchslaps penix |
| 07:51.48 | reklipz | newsense: there's quite a few left |
| 07:52.04 | OpenTokix | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Toy_Story_characters <-- A list |
| 07:52.06 | ma3x | if lenny becomes stable and testing becomes sid, what does unstable become? |
| 07:52.22 | OpenTokix | ma3x: sid will always be unstable |
| 07:52.23 | reklipz | newsense: the binoculars, the bad dude (zorg?) |
| 07:52.38 | reklipz | ma3x: sid is always unstable |
| 07:52.40 | mxmx | rel |
| 07:52.43 | mxmx | reklipz |
| 07:52.44 | newsense | never seen toystory |
| 07:52.45 | ma3x | then what will be the name of the new testing? |
| 07:52.52 | mxmx | now i get: php5 its adirectory |
| 07:52.58 | OpenTokix | ma3x: not decided yet afaik |
| 07:52.59 | reklipz | ma3x: one of the list that OpenTokix posted, I assume |
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| 07:53.11 | reklipz | mxmx: pastebin? |
| 07:53.22 | mxmx | the error? |
| 07:53.28 | newsense | i shoud though, big debian fan |
| 07:53.31 | reklipz | that and the command you ran |
| 07:53.47 | reklipz | how did the name debian come about? |
| 07:53.54 | barnum | 02 |
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| 07:55.20 | reklipz | http://communities.vmware.com/thread/163312?tstart=0 |
| 07:55.25 | reklipz | vmware support rocks! |
| 07:55.28 | mxmx | reklipz |
| 07:55.29 | mxmx | /usr/lib/php5 -q /home/admin/domains/sssssssss/ttttttt/ttttttt/video/cron.php |
| 07:55.44 | reklipz | mmm... |
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| 07:55.54 | mxmx | that one ays no such file |
| 07:55.55 | reklipz | i dont know of many binaries that reside in /usr/lib |
| 07:56.09 | reklipz | other than libs of course |
| 07:56.16 | mxmx | where there isnt any php in usr/bin/ |
| 07:56.21 | reklipz | mxmx, what happens when you run php? |
| 07:56.32 | reklipz | aka: #php<enter> |
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| 07:57.00 | mxmx | PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library './/usr/local/src/ffmpeg-php-0.5.0/modules/ffmpeg.so' - .//usr/local/src/ffmpeg-php-0.5.0/modules/ffmpeg.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory in Unknown on line 0 |
| 07:57.13 | mxmx | :/ |
| 07:57.21 | reklipz | well, at least it found the php bin |
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| 07:57.27 | OpenTokix | mxmx: maybe install ffmpeg then? |
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| 07:57.31 | reklipz | what about: #/usr/bin/php |
| 07:57.32 | mxmx | itsintslled |
| 07:57.36 | mxmx | its even being used |
| 07:57.40 | mxmx | it evne converts movies |
| 07:57.55 | reklipz | yes, it looks like ffmpeg lib is a relative path though |
| 07:57.56 | OpenTokix | mxmx: but its compiled? |
| 07:57.58 | OpenTokix | /usr/local |
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| 07:58.04 | mxmx | it does nothing |
| 07:58.09 | reklipz | dont worry about it |
| 07:58.09 | mxmx | OpenTokix yes |
| 07:58.16 | OpenTokix | php5-ffmpeg is in lenny atleast |
| 07:58.17 | mxmx | it woudltnt manually convert would it? |
| 07:58.32 | mxmx | i ran |
| 07:58.33 | reklipz | mxmx: designate your questions! lol |
| 07:58.43 | mxmx | nothing happened reklipz |
| 07:58.48 | reklipz | nothing as in? |
| 07:58.51 | mxmx | sorry |
| 07:59.03 | reklipz | did it execute? did bash bitch to you? |
| 07:59.08 | mxmx | i meant if ffmpeg werent compiled, a manaul convert owuldnt work? |
| 07:59.25 | mxmx | reklipz it didnt doa nything blank space |
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| 08:00.29 | reklipz | aka, term looks like: |
| 08:00.29 | reklipz | user@host#/usr/bin/php |
| 08:00.29 | reklipz | user@host# |
| 08:00.29 | reklipz | ? |
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| 08:00.35 | mxmx | i am ssh-ing root |
| 08:00.37 | simonrvn | ... |
| 08:00.38 | mxmx | no need user |
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| 08:00.46 | mxmx | now |
| 08:00.47 | reklipz | user and host were placeholders.. |
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| 08:00.53 | mxmx | reklipz |
| 08:00.56 | mxmx | lets back up a second |
| 08:01.29 | mxmx | i am browing my server, and I am looking at usr/local/src/ffmpeg-php-0.5.0/modules/ffmpeg.so |
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| 08:02.23 | mxmx | ? |
| 08:02.34 | reklipz | mxmx: ? |
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| 08:03.05 | mxmx | php told me it cant find './/usr/local/src/ffmpeg-php-0.5.0/modules/ffmpeg.so' |
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| 08:03.12 | mxmx | but i am looking it at inmy server |
| 08:03.13 | mxmx | its right there |
| 08:03.19 | reklipz | yes |
| 08:03.24 | reklipz | the reason is because |
| 08:03.32 | reklipz | .//usr/local/src/ffmpeg-php-0.5.0/modules/ffmpeg.so is a relative path |
| 08:03.39 | reklipz | to what, i'm not sure |
| 08:03.47 | reklipz | but we can ignore that for now |
| 08:03.48 | mxmx | cron.php |
| 08:03.52 | mxmx | ok |
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| 08:04.18 | reklipz | so, when you run /usr/bin/php -q /home/admin/domains/sssssssss/ttttttt/ttttttt/video/cron.php, what is the output? |
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| 08:05.08 | mxmx | reklipz |
| 08:05.28 | mxmx | -bash: /usr/bin/php: No such file or directory |
| 08:06.04 | Supaplex | what a plague. atftpd[1231]: timeout: retrying... |
| 08:06.11 | reklipz | mxmx: mmk, that's not good. so we still dont know where your php binary is |
| 08:06.17 | mxmx | exaclt |
| 08:06.35 | mxmx | and if i try #find / | grep php |
| 08:06.39 | mxmx | i get hundreds of lines |
| 08:06.55 | reklipz | mxmx: did you run /usr/lib/php -q /home/admin/domains/sssssssss/ttttttt/ttttttt/video/cron.php, or /usr/lib/php5 -q /home/admin/domains/sssssssss/ttttttt/ttttttt/video/cron.php |
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| 08:07.06 | reklipz | notice the php vs php5 |
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| 08:07.30 | mxmx | i ran both |
| 08:07.32 | mxmx | non work |
| 08:07.33 | reklipz | ok |
| 08:07.50 | reklipz | #apt-get install php5-cli |
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| 08:08.05 | mxmx | reiintall? |
| 08:08.10 | mxmx | wont that affecte verything? |
| 08:08.14 | reklipz | is it already installed? |
| 08:08.18 | mxmx | yes |
| 08:08.22 | reklipz | are you sure? |
| 08:08.23 | mxmx | my php works |
| 08:08.42 | reklipz | what happens if you run #apt-get install php5-cli? |
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| 08:08.58 | mxmx | in usr/bin/ i have phpize5, php-config5 |
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| 08:09.01 | mxmx | but not php |
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| 08:09.11 | reklipz | try that command i just told you |
| 08:09.13 | Sashi | hey is it possible to see the contents of a 403 folder? |
| 08:09.13 | mxmx | reklipz i am scared tor un that :/ |
| 08:09.20 | reklipz | it wont hurt you |
| 08:09.23 | reklipz | it will prompt you first |
| 08:09.24 | mxmx | ok |
| 08:09.44 | mxmx | it dint promt me |
| 08:09.47 | mxmx | its downloading stuff |
| 08:09.55 | reklipz | then you should be fine |
| 08:09.59 | reklipz | it should be done by now |
| 08:09.59 | mxmx | Creating config file /etc/php5/cli/php.ini with new version |
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| 08:10.42 | reklipz | http://packages.debian.org/stable/web/php5-cli |
| 08:10.51 | mxmx | eh? |
| 08:10.51 | reklipz | try running that command again |
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| 08:10.56 | reklipz | the cron |
| 08:11.00 | mxmx | ok |
| 08:11.00 | reklipz | but from the cli |
| 08:11.34 | mxmx | from the cli? |
| 08:11.37 | mxmx | how? |
| 08:11.41 | mxmx | i got differnet stuff now |
| 08:11.43 | reklipz | or something as simple as: #echo "<? echo 'test' ?>" | php |
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| 08:12.07 | mxmx | http://pastebin.ca/1172642 |
| 08:12.17 | reklipz | there you go |
| 08:12.20 | reklipz | it ran your cron job |
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| 08:12.51 | reklipz | strange... |
| 08:12.53 | mxmx | it didnt |
| 08:13.03 | mxmx | it said my websie is not coonfigured well |
| 08:13.10 | Supaplex | ponders... hummm mtu issue with tftp maybe. |
| 08:13.12 | reklipz | what is the output of: #echo "<? echo 'test' ?>" | php |
| 08:13.28 | mxmx | PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library './/usr/local/src/ffmpeg-php-0.5.0/modules/ffmpeg.so' - .//usr/local/src/ffmpeg-php-0.5.0/modules/ffmpeg.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory in Unknown on line 0 |
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| 08:14.26 | Supaplex | mxmx: that doesn't look like one we compiled. |
| 08:14.50 | mxmx | well i rant the command u told me |
| 08:14.54 | mbroeker | uh, mxmx that sounds interesting: where can i find an mpeg en/decoder with scripting abilities? |
| 08:15.06 | mxmx | mbroeker |
| 08:15.29 | mxmx | http://linux.justinhartman.com/FFmpeg,_FFmpeg-PHP,_Lame,_Libogg,_Libvorbis,_FLVtool2,_Mplayer,_Mencoder,_AMR_Installation |
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| 08:15.42 | mbroeker | thx mxmx |
| 08:16.04 | reklipz | Supaplex: wherever that is getting included from simply needs to remove the ./ at the beginning. I assume it is php.ini |
| 08:16.29 | mxmx | reklipz |
| 08:16.34 | mxmx | that file is zend-ed |
| 08:16.38 | mxmx | by the script owner |
| 08:16.43 | reklipz | which file is that? |
| 08:16.48 | reklipz | the cron.php? |
| 08:17.14 | mxmx | <?php @Zend; |
| 08:17.14 | mxmx | 4147; |
| 08:17.14 | mxmx | /* |
| 08:17.17 | mxmx | yes |
| 08:17.52 | reklipz | mxmx: mmk, well it ran correctly then |
| 08:18.02 | reklipz | because you got the zend safeguard output |
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| 08:18.49 | Supaplex | safeguard? haha. wth |
| 08:19.12 | reklipz | mxmx: I'm unfamiliar with zend guard, but I assume your next step is to get the php5 cli to work with it the same way that your php5 apache module does |
| 08:19.24 | mxmx | reklipz |
| 08:19.29 | mxmx | but read what the output says |
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| 08:19.39 | mxmx | reklipz |
| 08:19.43 | mxmx | how do i get to cli? |
| 08:19.52 | mxmx | <reklipz> but from the cli |
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| 08:20.44 | mxmx | reklipz i don think i ran it from the cli, as u asked me to |
| 08:20.50 | reklipz | mxmx the cli is the command line interface. you installed the php cli |
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| 08:21.04 | reklipz | running /usr/bin/php <file here> from bash is running the cli |
| 08:21.16 | mxmx | ok then i did that |
| 08:21.20 | reklipz | mxmx: one sec |
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| 08:21.31 | reklipz | mxmx: where is your current php.ini? |
| 08:21.33 | mxmx | ok |
| 08:21.40 | mxmx | one se |
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| 08:22.04 | mxmx | /etc/php5/apache/php.ini |
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| 08:22.13 | eth01 | :) |
| 08:22.16 | mxmx | /usr/local/lib/php.ini |
| 08:22.25 | mxmx | /usr/local/lib/php.ini-zend_optimizer.bak |
| 08:22.29 | reklipz | try /usr/lib/php -c <path to ini file here> -q /home/admin/domains/sssssssss/ttttttt/ttttttt/video/cron.php, or /usr/lib/php5 |
| 08:22.36 | mxmx | /etc/php5/cli/php.ini |
| 08:22.37 | reklipz | and that should fix your issue |
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| 08:23.52 | reklipz | drumroll please ... |
| 08:23.59 | mxmx | bash: /usr/lib/php: No such file or directory |
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| 08:24.09 | reklipz | oops |
| 08:24.13 | mxmx | bin? |
| 08:24.14 | reklipz | copied from too far |
| 08:24.17 | reklipz | indeed bin |
| 08:24.18 | mxmx | bash: /usr/lib/php: No such file or directory |
| 08:24.45 | mxmx | gret same rorr |
| 08:24.48 | mxmx | error |
| 08:25.03 | reklipz | what's the command look like? |
| 08:25.06 | mxmx | i dont get the zend error |
| 08:25.09 | mxmx | jsut the ffmpeg error |
| 08:25.27 | reklipz | yeah, we can fix the ffmpeg error now |
| 08:25.35 | eth01 | needs to acclimatise back into the UK spirit |
| 08:25.40 | reklipz | pastebin your php.ini |
| 08:25.45 | mxmx | ./usr/bin/php -c /usr/local/lib/php.ini -q /home/admin/domains/ssssssss/public_html/ssssss/video/cron.php |
| 08:25.56 | mxmx | ok |
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| 08:27.28 | mxmx | http://pastebin.ca/1172659 |
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| 08:28.08 | owen1 | how to compile dwm? |
| 08:28.19 | reklipz | mxmx: hmm... |
| 08:28.43 | Sashi | uhh question here |
| 08:28.43 | mxmx | loks good right? |
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| 08:28.57 | reklipz | mxmx: yeah it does |
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| 08:29.12 | mxmx | its the stupid cronjb |
| 08:29.17 | Sashi | when i go to nano, to delete a character i have to go in front of it to delete it |
| 08:29.19 | Sashi | why is that |
| 08:29.38 | reklipz | Sashi: delete, or backspace? |
| 08:29.44 | Sashi | backspace |
| 08:29.49 | mxmx | ,,,, |
| 08:29.54 | reklipz | Sashi: no idea, use vim |
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| 08:29.59 | Sashi | no |
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| 08:30.02 | Sashi | i dont wanna use vim |
| 08:30.33 | mxmx | i gues si have tod o it manuallly |
| 08:30.33 | reklipz | mxmx: change extension_dir to "" |
| 08:30.37 | mxmx | every damn video |
| 08:30.55 | mxmx | ok |
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| 08:31.15 | reklipz | mxmx: this may cause other errors, so bare with me |
| 08:31.31 | mxmx | ok |
| 08:31.49 | reklipz | mxmx |
| 08:31.50 | reklipz | wait |
| 08:31.51 | reklipz | stop |
| 08:31.57 | mxmx | i am stopped |
| 08:31.57 | reklipz | change that back if you did it already |
| 08:32.02 | mxmx | ok |
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| 08:32.26 | mbroeker | mxmx, aptitude show php5-ffmpeg :) |
| 08:32.29 | mxmx | back to "./" |
| 08:32.52 | mxmx | E: Unable to locate package php5-ffmpeg |
| 08:33.28 | reklipz | mxmx |
| 08:33.33 | mxmx | reklipz |
| 08:33.34 | reklipz | which php.ini are you using/ |
| 08:33.45 | mxmx | directadmin |
| 08:33.47 | reklipz | /usr/local/lib? |
| 08:33.56 | mxmx | i am browsing it horugh direct admin |
| 08:33.58 | Crypticfortune | hmmm, why would I suddenly start getting "403 forbidden" from aptitude update? http://rafb.net/p/uOLwtR48.html |
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| 08:34.34 | mxmx | soi am not sure which one directadmin uses |
| 08:34.36 | reklipz | yes, but when you ran that cron job from the cli, what did you pass for the -c argument? |
| 08:34.48 | mxmx | actually i do |
| 08:34.52 | Crypticfortune | this is my sources.list btw http://rafb.net/p/a1d5jz76.html |
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| 08:35.05 | zu22 | mxmx: direct admin uses too much with mysql overhead so i removed it hehe, i may try LxAdmin it is smaller footprint |
| 08:35.22 | _freebird | can anybody read me ??? |
| 08:35.23 | mxmx | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:35.37 | Crypticfortune | _freebird: yes. |
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| 08:35.52 | mxmx | reklipz: it uses usr/local/lib/php.ini |
| 08:36.02 | reklipz | mxmx: can you tell me what the phpinfo() command outputs? |
| 08:36.14 | zu22 | mxmx: how much do you pay each month for your server? jsut curious |
| 08:36.25 | _freebird | reklipz why don't you make a test ?? |
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| 08:36.57 | mxmx | zu22 47 euros |
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| 08:37.11 | reklipz | mxmx, ok, try this: #mkdir /usr/local/lib/modules/ && cp /usr/local/src/ffmpeg-php-0.5.0/modules/ffmpeg.so /usr/local/lib/modules/ |
| 08:37.13 | _freebird | testing, can anybody read me ?? |
| 08:37.16 | mxmx | reklipz |
| 08:37.16 | mxmx | wait |
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| 08:37.19 | mxmx | i tried this: |
| 08:37.22 | reklipz | _freebird: we can read you |
| 08:37.27 | mxmx | /usr/local/bin/php -q /home/admin/domains/dumppix.com/public_html/adult/video/cron.php |
| 08:37.39 | mxmx | it worked |
| 08:37.43 | reklipz | then use that |
| 08:37.51 | mxmx | ha no i get diff errors |
| 08:37.53 | mxmx | hmmmmmmmmm |
| 08:37.57 | reklipz | we can fix yours |
| 08:38.06 | mxmx | hm? |
| 08:38.24 | reklipz | make a file that has: <?php phpinfo() ?>, run it, and pastebin me the output, or point me to to it |
| 08:38.33 | Crypticfortune | smacks forehead. 403 forbidden problem solved. (had a stupid proxy set in apt.conf) |
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| 08:38.51 | mxmx | its actually a flvtool error now |
| 08:38.53 | reklipz | we're like '' that close to fixing it, you simply need to move your ffmpeg module |
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| 08:38.57 | mxmx | totally non debian related :/ |
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| 08:39.09 | reklipz | yes, dont use /usr/local/bin/php |
| 08:39.44 | mxmx | hmmm |
| 08:39.48 | reklipz | you done the phpinfo()? |
| 08:39.49 | mxmx | ok |
| 08:39.57 | mxmx | yes |
| 08:39.59 | eth01 | /etc/php[4/5^R]/ |
| 08:40.03 | eth01 | thats where it should be imo |
| 08:40.16 | reklipz | eth01: agreed... |
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| 08:40.49 | eth01 | and ^R is asking you to replace the 4 or the 5 -- IF you don't know ;) |
| 08:42.09 | reklipz | exclusive or, got it |
| 08:42.30 | eth01 | uh im tired gr |
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| 08:42.49 | zu22 | mxmx: i see |
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| 08:43.47 | zu22 | i want to install php support for my apache 1.3 webserver (running etch) but the depends include all these apache2 packages, how can i support php while still keep apache 1.3? apache2 dies with weird memory thread errors so i was forced to use apache 1.3 |
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| 08:46.57 | vadmeste | Hi. Anyone has a general solution for working with remote device (/dev/...) ? |
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| 08:56.08 | snakeoil | vadmeste what exactly are trying to do ? |
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| 08:57.16 | snakeoil | you can use ssh to pipe throug from one host to another. e.g. "cat soundfile.au | ssh user@remotehost "cat - > /dev/dsp" |
| 08:57.18 | vadmeste | snacky: for example, I wanna redirect audio data not to my sound card but to a sound card of another desktop connected to the lan |
| 08:57.27 | vadmeste | snacky: there are a solution for that in fact (ESD) |
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| 08:57.45 | vadmeste | snacky: but I am just asking if there are a general solution |
| 08:58.17 | vadmeste | snacky: for example, keyboard |
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| 09:00.55 | HNSZ | Hello! |
| 09:01.03 | SQLDb | HNSZ: HI! |
| 09:01.22 | cluck_norris | Hi |
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| 09:02.08 | HNSZ | I remember a documentary in which RMS explained that people using proprietary software are being called a bad person |
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| 09:03.01 | HNSZ | Well guess what?! I want to install what the fuck I want without being called a bad person so fuck all religious fantaics and fuck debian. |
| 09:03.02 | ronr | hi, I run a mailserver (postfix) and now it has gotten on the spamcop bl with the reason that the System has sent mail to spam traps. I guess this is something misconfigured, where do I look? How can I fix this? |
| 09:03.45 | HNSZ | I want firefox 3 damnit |
| 09:03.58 | koan | since when is firefox 3 proprietary? |
| 09:04.15 | HNSZ | Iceweasel is a piece of crap and it's not a software fork, it's a legal fork |
| 09:04.44 | liable | HNSZ: did you come here for advice or just to troll? |
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| 09:04.51 | HNSZ | So have you people got something to say for your shameless behaviour |
| 09:04.58 | koan | HNSZ: wrong place |
| 09:04.59 | HNSZ | No I'm not trolling |
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| 09:05.42 | koan | then stop raging and start giving rational arguments |
| 09:05.45 | HNSZ | The people that tell me what programs I can and cannot install on debian are the trolls. |
| 09:06.21 | liable | we never said you cant. so piss off, dont expect us to help you here with it if you have problems though |
| 09:06.32 | HNSZ | The people that burn you everytime you want something that does not fit into their picture of are the trolls. |
| 09:06.37 | koan | if you have problems with debian, then don't use it |
| 09:06.48 | koan | we live in a free world |
| 09:06.49 | HNSZ | koan: As of today I'm not |
| 09:06.56 | koan | fine, kthxbye |
| 09:07.19 | HNSZ | I just wanted to give you back some of the crap I get from you on the forums and irc. |
| 09:07.33 | HNSZ | koan: Why dont you just slasignore me |
| 09:07.39 | streuner | You are in the wrong place :-) |
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| 09:07.51 | defrysk | jeetje wat een zeikerd |
| 09:07.53 | streuner | We aren't discussing things, we do support here |
| 09:07.55 | koan | HNSZ: don't tell me what I can and cannot do ;-) |
| 09:08.00 | HNSZ | :) |
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| 09:08.20 | HNSZ | Call it an advise and I'm not a 'zeikerd' |
| 09:08.24 | streuner | HNSZ: if you want discuss, do that somewhere else please |
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| 09:09.06 | HNSZ | Okey credits where credits due, apt is the neatest package manager. |
| 09:09.14 | HNSZ | of the universe |
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| 09:09.45 | HNSZ | It's also the only reason that debian is so popular. |
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| 09:10.02 | streuner | fine, that's a good start. If you have a problem (about a technical issue), just ask :-) |
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| 09:12.18 | ronr | hi, I run a mailserver (postfix) and now it has gotten on the spamcop bl with the reason that the System has sent mail to spam traps. I guess this is something misconfigured, where do I look? How can I fix this? |
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| 09:12.45 | HNSZ | streuner: Yes I have a problem, I am doing apt-get install firefox3 and i get the following message: "Screw you asshole, you half to do extra effort to get this because we won't include it in our package. I'n sic month you may get iceweasel three(our legal fork with extra bloat)" |
| 09:12.54 | liable | your mail logs would be a good start |
| 09:13.09 | HNSZ | " |
| 09:13.23 | streuner | !ff3 |
| 09:13.23 | dpkg | [ff3] just exactly the same code base as version 3.0rc3, which only has a MacOSX-only fix more than 3.0rc2, which is what we already have in debian as iceweasel 3.0~rc2-1. Debian/testing Lenny users can add a sid repository and use apt-get -t unstable install iceweasel to get it . Back up your ~/.mozilla in the case iceweasel3/firefox3 doesn't play nice with 2.0 version's settings Etch users ask me about <firefox 3 etch> |
| 09:13.51 | ronr | liable: and search for what? they're very big (40M a day) |
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| 09:14.43 | HNSZ | streuner: I have installed it allready bit some problem with gtk dependencies. |
| 09:14.59 | liable | ronr: i guess the domainname where the mail got sent (the spam traps) isolate if its a user thats got a trojan, or your'e relaying when you shouldn't be |
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| 09:15.01 | streuner | HNSZ: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
| 09:15.22 | HNSZ | streuner: But seriously I DO NOT WANT iceweasel |
| 09:15.30 | ronr | liable: but spamcop doesn't reveal the spam trap addresses |
| 09:15.41 | streuner | well, there are binaries out there for ff3 |
| 09:15.58 | streuner | install that, but you don't have support then... |
| 09:16.14 | liable | ronr: if they wont send you logs, then i have no idea how you are supposed to find out. |
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| 09:16.57 | HNSZ | streuner: Thats odd, why won't you? |
| 09:17.08 | HNSZ | It says : libc6 2.3.6.ds1-13etch7 GNU C Library: Shared libraries |
| 09:17.09 | ronr | ok, thx, I'll read their site a bit more |
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| 09:17.27 | streuner | We can only support, what he provide and have in our mirrors |
| 09:17.35 | cluck_norris | How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if he could chuck norris? |
| 09:17.39 | streuner | HNSZ: fine |
| 09:17.40 | Crypticfortune | is there some blackmagic necessary to get compiz to work under lenny? running "compiz --replace" gives me http://rafb.net/p/INCfq149.html |
| 09:18.03 | HNSZ | streuner: i wasn't aware of the fact that this was #dpkg |
| 09:18.10 | streuner | HNSZ: well, re-read the factoid about iceweasel again |
| 09:18.43 | petemc | HNSZ: are you here for help or are you here to bitch and moan? |
| 09:18.55 | se7en_ | HNSZ: go and buy xp or vista and you will have no problems and need no suport lol ... if you use a free OS like linux you might have to work a little bit for it |
| 09:19.29 | streuner | petemc: he want "discuss" things :-) |
| 09:19.31 | HNSZ | petmc: That was constructive criticism you just spewd there. |
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| 09:19.48 | cluck_norris | HNSZ: if you can't handle with debian try ubuntu, it's much easier to use |
| 09:20.04 | se7en_ | or a calculator |
| 09:20.08 | streuner | HNSZ: iceweasel 3 isn't in etch/stable, IIRC |
| 09:20.10 | ewet | hi, I have a widescreen tft display and am trying to use 960x600 (obviously for some game) however the screen is misplaced. So is there any other way of trying out than gtf-ing all the possibilities and restartiing xorg again and again? |
| 09:20.43 | HNSZ | se7en_: Listen up matey I'm not complaining about linux. Linux is fine as it is(could be a lot better), I just feel that debian support has a bit narrow scope for religious reasons. |
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| 09:21.20 | se7en_ | whatever HNSZ use one of the other distros |
| 09:21.28 | HNSZ | cluck_norris: I might just o that yes |
| 09:22.04 | streuner | HNSZ: if you are talking about DFSG, yes, that's important for us, true :-) |
| 09:22.08 | HNSZ | se7en_: Maybe I will, you pathetic footsoldier. |
| 09:22.09 | cluck_norris | HNSZ: http://www.ubuntu.com , it is debian-based |
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| 09:22.22 | se7en_ | HNSZ: :) |
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| 09:24.27 | cluck_norris | means it seriously :) |
| 09:24.29 | streuner | You are free using whatever you want, but please don't insult us |
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| 09:25.48 | cluck_norris | HNSZ: with ubuntu/kubuntu you can install compiz without opening terminal |
| 09:26.01 | HNSZ | streuner:Yes well I think I really differ too much on that point to keep using this distro. I believe that (f)oss is a good thing but not the only thing. |
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| 09:26.23 | HNSZ | cluck_norris: I like terminals. |
| 09:26.40 | cluck_norris | HNSZ: mee too :) |
| 09:27.02 | liable | i like turtles |
| 09:27.04 | cluck_norris | HNSZ: but it was just to show how easy linux can be |
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| 09:28.22 | HNSZ | cluck_norris: ^_^ |
| 09:28.52 | HNSZ | cluck_norris:Or maybe I'll just get openbsd |
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| 09:30.05 | HNSZ | cluck_norris:But I won't, I'm getting ubuntu( in fact I've already downloaded it), I beleive that linux desktops should be superduper effortless. |
| 09:30.32 | streuner | HNSZ: good |
| 09:30.39 | petemc | or no effort on your part at least |
| 09:30.41 | streuner | so make us a favoirte and leave now! |
| 09:30.49 | streuner | favorite* |
| 09:30.49 | se7en_ | is happy if HNSZ is :) |
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| 09:32.38 | HNSZ | petemc:Stop your blame game already, if a product is presented, it is only reasonable to expect that I works properly as you would expect from similar products. |
| 09:32.57 | liable | just drop it. |
| 09:33.03 | HNSZ | liable: NO |
| 09:33.22 | HNSZ | I'll be gone soon. |
| 09:33.42 | se7en_ | is HNSZ unhappy about something |
| 09:33.52 | liable | dont feed it |
| 09:34.05 | HNSZ | No se7en, I'm superhappy ^_^ *twinkle* |
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| 09:34.55 | HNSZ | liable: Ever thought that you might be the only one that is feeding it? Whatever happened to stearing the conversation. |
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| 09:35.34 | HNSZ | will debate on anything |
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| 09:36.14 | se7en_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:39.35 | HNSZ | I think I'm getting feisty (get it :p) |
| 09:40.16 | Ace2016_- | no don't do that |
| 09:40.18 | Ace2016_- | get debian sid |
| 09:40.37 | HNSZ | Why? |
| 09:40.47 | Ace2016_- | well why not? |
| 09:40.55 | Ace2016_- | no more reinstalling ever |
| 09:40.57 | HNSZ | I really don't know |
| 09:41.32 | HNSZ | bye now |
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| 09:41.48 | HNSZ | exit |
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| 09:42.37 | streuner | what a lame troll, not even amusing :-) |
| 09:43.16 | streuner | there are some people out there, who have too much time... |
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| 09:55.14 | Dreamlinux | hi folks! |
| 09:55.28 | Sling | hi |
| 09:55.45 | Dreamlinux | mm I have a problem with Quake4 in my Debian box (etch) |
| 09:56.10 | Sling | unless thats quake4 for cli im not of much help |
| 09:56.14 | Sling | only uses console |
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| 09:56.41 | pingouin | you spend too much time on it ? your girlfriend has leave ? sorry we can't help ;) |
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| 10:00.16 | Dreamlinux | I am a bit desperate now, because the game does not work :( its very rare the problem |
| 10:00.30 | Sling | get a life if quake4-not-working makes you desperate |
| 10:00.30 | Sling | :) |
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| 10:00.47 | Dreamlinux | jeje |
| 10:01.26 | Dreamlinux | one line message > Fatal Error: Unable to initialize OpenGL |
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| 10:01.53 | pingouin | Dreamlinux: nvidia ? |
| 10:02.02 | pingouin | Dreamlinux: nvidia graphic card ? |
| 10:02.03 | Dreamlinux | Direct Rendering is Enable |
| 10:02.08 | Dreamlinux | yes! |
| 10:02.24 | pingouin | Dreamlinux: did you make an apt-get update/upgrade recently ? |
| 10:02.27 | Dreamlinux | GF8600GTS 256MB DDR3 on Debian Etch |
| 10:02.42 | rmrfchik | m-a a-i nvidia |
| 10:02.42 | Pavlz | we see this evening |
| 10:02.47 | Pavlz | bye bye |
| 10:02.52 | cluck_norris | Dreamlinux: did you patched the game to 1.4.2? |
| 10:03.30 | Dreamlinux | no pingouin, I working with the driver of nvidia from the web site |
| 10:04.11 | Dreamlinux | version 169-12 |
| 10:04.18 | pingouin | Dreamlinux: good, best choise usually (sorry debian...dont hit) |
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| 10:04.48 | pingouin | what about the cluck_norris question ? |
| 10:05.18 | cluck_norris | Dreamlinux: try wine 1.1.1 and patch quake 4 to 1.4.2 + no cd, it should work perfect |
| 10:05.27 | cluck_norris | http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=3863 |
| 10:05.38 | Dreamlinux | well I will change the version of nvidia driver,,, |
| 10:05.47 | Dreamlinux | chuck; hi |
| 10:05.52 | pingouin | why wine ?! it"s linux native... |
| 10:06.04 | ilembitov | Hi, all. Do I get it right, that until Lenny is out, testing won't be open again for updates? But sid will go on accepting updates, right? |
| 10:06.16 | Dreamlinux | I play Q4 in linux native not with Wine ;) |
| 10:06.44 | streuner | ilembitov: /msg dpkg sid faq |
| 10:06.45 | cluck_norris | Dreamlinux: but have you tried to play with wine ;) |
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| 10:07.08 | pingouin | useless in this case, amha |
| 10:07.20 | Dreamlinux | no... for what? |
| 10:07.49 | pingouin | Dreamlinux: try to reinstall the drivers from nvidia website, the same , and newer |
| 10:08.44 | Dreamlinux | even I upgrade the version of Q4 from 1.3 to 1.4.2 but nothing... |
| 10:08.44 | pingouin | Dreamlinux: here, after an apt-get update/upgrade including some xorg update, games not work anymore (etqw, ut2k4...) i have to reinstall the nvidia drivers and then it goes again |
| 10:09.16 | Ozux | hi, |
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| 10:09.23 | pingouin | and be sure about your upgrade from 1.3 to 1.4.2 , nothing missing ? |
| 10:09.26 | Ozux | is there any way to restore deleted files in Ext3 ? |
| 10:09.55 | liable | nope |
| 10:10.07 | liable | well, theres one very technical convoluted way |
| 10:10.24 | Dreamlinux | ok.. I will change the version of drivers.. to the last version of nvidia drivers!!! |
| 10:10.42 | sladi | Ozux: there is an app but you'll have to fibd out the file types |
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| 10:11.24 | sladi | Ozux: *find The app has some recognition routine for mp3s and pictures |
| 10:12.31 | sladi | Ozux: also filenames are gone then |
| 10:12.45 | Dreamlinux | ok > http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_173.14.12.html |
| 10:13.37 | Dreamlinux | I will down this version and test in my debian box... |
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| 10:14.56 | Dreamlinux | thanx to us all, bytes |
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| 10:25.37 | ronr | is there a way to setup your server so it can't be abused by spammers like: they forge a return-path with the address they want to spam, send it to a legit mail server with a non existing TO address, the legit server bounces the mail to the forged return-path? |
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| 10:27.44 | mavhc | turn on that server verification thing, SPF? |
| 10:28.59 | ronr | mavhc: spf... lemme google on that |
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| 10:32.28 | mavhc | sender policy framework |
| 10:32.52 | mavhc | it's the first step in doing what you want, the other steps might need some time |
| 10:32.54 | ronr | how could spf handle it if I got several clients using their own mailservers or their ISPs mailserver? |
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| 10:34.19 | ronr | and wouldn't adding spf to a server deny anyone not using spf sending to my mailserver? |
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| 10:41.20 | jelly-home | ronr: read about it. spf is mainly useful for the receiver of mails seemingly originating from your domain |
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| 10:42.58 | jelly-home | ronr: just make your server not accept mail to nonexistent@your-domain.com |
| 10:44.14 | jelly-home | spf doesn't protect you from being a backscatter generator at all, IMO |
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| 10:46.53 | Mantaar | hey guys, can anybody point me to a resource about installing 3rd party OpenType fonts in Debian (system wide)? |
| 10:47.43 | Mantaar | (or at least for the particular user I'm logged on with) |
| 10:48.41 | jelly-home | !tell Mantaar about install font |
| 10:48.57 | dr-evil | which group user should be in to manage volumes? |
| 10:49.03 | dr-evil | drives etc |
| 10:49.27 | Mantaar | jelly-home: thanks :-) |
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| 10:50.51 | Mantaar | one question about kfontinst then: does it need to have a font server running? (like xft or so...) I don't have one set up |
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| 10:52.46 | falbani | hi |
| 10:53.14 | falbani | Is this the right place for asking a question related to lenny-installer and existing lvm partitions? |
| 10:54.05 | ronr | jelly-home: my server doesn't accept mail to nonexistent@my-domain.com, it bounces those, but if return-path is forged is bounces to the wrong server |
| 10:56.02 | jelly-home | ronr: you need to reject and smtp time, and not generate bounces |
| 10:56.08 | jelly-home | at* smtp time |
| 10:58.35 | ronr | jelly-home: I do that too, but often my fallback mailserver (lower priority mx) is used, that server doesn't know which accounts exists |
| 10:58.54 | jelly-home | ronr: it should know. :-) |
| 10:59.22 | ronr | jelly-home: :( gotta figure out how, don't feel like keeping a redundant db there |
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| 10:59.50 | jelly-home | that's what I do, replicate the valid emails to all the incoming servers |
| 11:00.19 | ronr | ok, I'm gonna try and get that to work |
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| 11:01.38 | jelly-home | ... I still have to figure out how to look-up quota from the storage machine and reject those at smtp time too |
| 11:01.39 | ronr | one last question, any idea how to secure a vacation auto-reply? (spammer forges return-path, mails to user with auto reply set, mail bounces to actual receiver)? |
| 11:02.32 | jelly-home | no idea of how to do it easily |
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| 11:02.50 | ronr | ok, I'll just let that be for now then |
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| 11:06.05 | Kingstone | hi, i have some question about debian packaging, i know that postinst is a script to do after install. can i do a special script for after an update of a package? |
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| 11:07.20 | jelly-home | Kingstone: the same one. read the policy, chapter 6. |
| 11:07.49 | Kingstone | do you have a link for the policy? |
| 11:08.00 | jelly-home | !policy |
| 11:08.01 | dpkg | somebody said policy was available at http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ - the manual that describes how debian packages should and must interact with the debian system. see best practices, or those who fail to understand Debian Policy are doomed to reimplement it, poorly. |
| 11:08.18 | Kingstone | thanks |
| 11:08.20 | jelly-home | it's also available as a package so you can have a local copy |
| 11:08.42 | jelly-home | "debian-policy" |
| 11:09.46 | jelly-home | Kingstone: "/msg dpkg mentors" could be useful too |
| 11:10.01 | Kingstone | debian.org seems not to work |
| 11:10.04 | Kingstone | does it work for you? |
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| 11:10.29 | jelly-home | yes. |
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| 11:24.11 | ingw3 | hello! in other distros if i want to point root mail to myself i just edit /etc/aliases but how in debian? |
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| 11:24.45 | axyjo | ingw3: did you try typing 'newaliases'? |
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| 11:25.34 | Coke | I'm on Debian testing (2.6.24-1-amd64 kernel), sometimes my primary audiocard simply does not load. In lspci it's a "00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia", this is all I can get from dmesg, "hda-intel: Error creating card!". It works if I reboot, but why not the first time? |
| 11:25.40 | ingw3 | axyjo: don't u type this after u edit /etc/aliases? |
| 11:26.31 | abrotman | 'u' isn't a word |
| 11:27.09 | ingw3 | abrotman: and linux is not unix :) |
| 11:27.22 | abrotman | i didn't say it was |
| 11:27.39 | abrotman | Coke: are you on etch or lenny? |
| 11:27.53 | Coke | abrotman: apt uses "testing" |
| 11:28.12 | abrotman | Coke: there is a .25 kernel in lenny now |
| 11:28.21 | abrotman | it may resolve that issue? |
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| 11:29.43 | Coke | abrotman: I will try. Also, hard to say after just one reboot, I'd have to restart several times to confirm since this problem is intermittent |
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| 11:30.12 | Coke | abrotman: thanks for the update, anyway, might as well go 25 either way |
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| 11:31.43 | abrotman | Coke: and you probably want to point at lenny, not testing |
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| 11:38.02 | Coke | abrotman: how come? I like watching the repository change over time. |
| 11:38.08 | clemente | What is the easy way to get the tuxonice functionality in the kernel? (Preferably via apt-get) |
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| 11:39.22 | Coke | reboot to .25 |
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| 11:40.38 | stevedondley | ping dondelelcaro |
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| 11:41.15 | milligan_ | Looking at this filmclip, http://www.filecabi.net/video/Favorite_Curse_Word.html (nsfw), who's the chick at 0:42 that says sh*tface? |
| 11:41.37 | ronr | what kind of packages can I install to improve spamassassins spam recognizing, I already added pyzor and razor |
| 11:41.40 | moshii | milligan_: why do we care? |
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| 11:42.01 | milligan_ | moshii, did I ask you to care? |
| 11:42.18 | DawnLight | ronr: i guess that most of the 'improving' is done via configuration |
| 11:42.32 | DawnLight | but i've no experience with that |
| 11:42.38 | moshii | milligan_: this is #debian. not #randomquestionsbecauseihavenofriendstoask |
| 11:43.08 | OpenTokix | moshii: hehe |
| 11:43.24 | ronr | DawnLight: yeah, that's the annoying thing about spamassassin, it works pretty well but getting those last yards is just a big pita |
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| 11:43.45 | milligan_ | moshii, nice social skills there, keep going mate. |
| 11:43.47 | DawnLight | have fun |
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| 11:44.18 | moshii | milligan_: I have nice social skills, but you won't see them here becuase this isn't that sort of channel. |
| 11:44.36 | moshii | milligan_: there is an offtopic channel for totally unrelated shit. |
| 11:44.44 | Sling | which you just gave |
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| 11:45.03 | Sling | #randomquestionsbecauseihavenofriendstoask :Nick/channel is temporarily unavailable |
| 11:45.03 | Sling | aww |
| 11:45.06 | milligan_ | moshii, my bad. I thought it might be possible to talk to people in here unless you have a specific debian problem. guess I was wrong. |
| 11:45.13 | Coke | abrotman: the problem remains in .25-2 |
| 11:45.26 | Sling | milligan_ : then you are wrong indeed :) |
| 11:45.38 | moshii | milligan_: the ot channel is in the /topic |
| 11:45.53 | Appiah | think there is a debian "talk" / "offtopic" channel |
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| 11:46.03 | Coke | abrotman: the snd-hda-intel driver keeps reporting "error creating card!" also when reloading the driver. |
| 11:46.06 | Appiah | #debian-offtopic |
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| 11:49.08 | abrotman | Coke: maybe ask #alsa ? |
| 11:49.13 | abrotman | ifthey're alive |
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| 11:50.25 | aldin__ | can someone suggest me some gple-d tool for watching my http/mail server uptime remotely and if possible to send me warning mails? |
| 11:50.37 | Coke | abrotman: hmm.... we'll see. |
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| 11:52.47 | moshii | aldin__: there's one called mon that'll connect to different services (http, smtp etc) and send you warning emails if/when they go down |
| 11:53.11 | keith4 | aldin__: if you're looking for something more complicated/extensible, try nagios |
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| 11:55.08 | milligan_ | aldin__, this is a debian channel, not a #wesupportallyourrandomsoftware channel. Go somewhere else. |
| 11:55.10 | milligan_ | hides. |
| 11:56.06 | milligan_ | aldin__, http://www.opennms.org/index.php/Monitoring_Apache_with_the_HTTP_collector |
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| 11:58.16 | stevedondley | hi, I've got an emergency on my hands, willing to pay someone to help get the sites on my server working properly |
| 11:58.45 | stevedondley | my server is throwig mysql errors |
| 11:58.54 | stevedondley | the / is showing as full |
| 12:00.00 | keith4 | sounds like you already found the problem |
| 12:00.04 | keith4 | full / is very very bad |
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| 12:00.36 | keith4 | ... unless everything else is in separate filesystems |
| 12:00.36 | stevedondley | yeah, but it's more comlicated than that |
| 12:00.36 | stevedondley | hold on |
| 12:01.03 | stevedondley | please see http://pastebin.com/mfa6f914 |
| 12:01.13 | stevedondley | it's that /dev/mapper/vg1-root |
| 12:01.45 | stevedondley | this all happened real suddenly at 3:30 this morning |
| 12:01.46 | keith4 | right |
| 12:01.56 | stevedondley | it jumped up to 100% during some cron runs that run at that time |
| 12:02.16 | milligan_ | stevedondley, du a: du -hs * on / and see what folders are the biggest. |
| 12:02.38 | stevedondley | ok |
| 12:02.43 | milligan_ | maybe some cron has caught a loop and created a very large file. happened to me once. My FTP got hammered, and created a 250 gig big logfile. |
| 12:03.14 | stevedondley | milligan_: it's taking a long time |
| 12:03.18 | keith4 | stevedondley: might want to add -x to du, since you don't care about home, usr, var, or anything in mnt |
| 12:03.40 | keith4 | -x => don't descend into other filesystems |
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| 12:04.01 | stevedondley | ok |
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| 12:04.11 | stevedondley | still taking a long time |
| 12:04.18 | milligan_ | stevedondley, yes, use the -x option .. sorry. and it will take a little while, as it needs to index your directories and check what's taking up space. |
| 12:04.42 | stevedondley | yeah, I did use -x this time du -hsx * |
| 12:05.46 | stevedondley | ok, home is 283G |
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| 12:06.00 | keith4 | uh |
| 12:06.10 | milligan_ | you didn't use -x then, afaik. |
| 12:06.36 | milligan_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:06.37 | stevedondley | I think I have a different kind of configuration, that's the problem. I did use it |
| 12:06.51 | keith4 | pastebin the output of 'mount' |
| 12:07.32 | milligan_ | he already did |
| 12:07.37 | stevedondley | http://pastebin.com/m1db6d758 |
| 12:07.47 | keith4 | ah, i see |
| 12:08.08 | stevedondley | looks like /home is full, right? |
| 12:08.12 | milligan_ | no |
| 12:08.26 | milligan_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:08.34 | stevedondley | oh, sorry, right |
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| 12:08.43 | stevedondley | was misreading |
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| 12:09.13 | keith4 | weird. i just tried du -shx * on another system. doesn't seem to work as advertised. perhaps -s overrides x |
| 12:09.26 | milligan_ | stevedondley, pastebin this: du -hx /* |
| 12:09.32 | stevedondley | ok, just did: http://pastebin.com/m151ef96e |
| 12:09.53 | stevedondley | that was pastebin of du -hsx * |
| 12:10.02 | stevedondley | at the bottom |
| 12:10.58 | milligan_ | pastebin: du -hsx /mnt/* |
| 12:11.11 | keith4 | that's odd |
| 12:11.45 | keith4 | if you take away home, usr, and var... that all adds up to about 500M or so, no? |
| 12:12.00 | keith4 | was expecting to see /tmp filling / |
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| 12:12.18 | milligan_ | depends on /mnt |
| 12:12.26 | keith4 | true |
| 12:12.28 | milligan_ | maybe it's full of some kind of mounted iso or something. |
| 12:12.42 | keith4 | if you write something to /mnt/foo, without anything mounted at foo..... |
| 12:12.59 | stevedondley | I get du: cannot access `/mnt/*': No such file or directory |
| 12:13.18 | keith4 | what's in /mnt, other than betabackup? |
| 12:13.39 | stevedondley | mnt is empty |
| 12:13.42 | stevedondley | nothing in there |
| 12:13.53 | keith4 | really |
| 12:13.58 | stevedondley | yeah |
| 12:14.19 | keith4 | du says otherwise |
| 12:14.55 | stevedondley | what is that 309M nonexistant directory? |
| 12:14.59 | stevedondley | that's weid |
| 12:15.06 | keith4 | you tell us. it's your system ;-) |
| 12:15.15 | stevedondley | my guy set it up, he's not around |
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| 12:15.28 | keith4 | what does "ls -a" show in /mnt? |
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| 12:15.46 | stevedondley | hold on, I'm a dumbass |
| 12:15.50 | stevedondley | looking at wrong server |
| 12:15.59 | keith4 | nice |
| 12:16.17 | stevedondley | betabackup and charliebackup |
| 12:16.33 | keith4 | charliebackup isn't mounted, though |
| 12:16.55 | stevedondley | this is something my server set up last tnight |
| 12:17.18 | stevedondley | those backups he set up |
| 12:17.22 | keith4 | if you wrote anything to /mnt/charliebackup, it would really be in / |
| 12:17.28 | keith4 | since there's nothing mounted there |
| 12:17.50 | stevedondley | I don't understand, but what do I need to do to give / some space? |
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| 12:18.23 | keith4 | what's "du -sh /mnt/charliebackup" ? |
| 12:18.27 | roy471 | Hi all |
| 12:18.30 | stevedondley | I can ls into charliebackup |
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| 12:18.50 | roy471 | do any one need ROR installation help im me |
| 12:18.58 | stevedondley | say 1.3G |
| 12:19.04 | stevedondley | says 1.3G |
| 12:19.08 | keith4 | there's your problem |
| 12:19.18 | keith4 | that stuff is all counting towards use on / |
| 12:19.23 | keith4 | since nothing is mounted there |
| 12:19.49 | keith4 | i *think* you can make dirs in /mnt read-only, so that you can't accidentally write to them without something being mounted |
| 12:19.56 | stevedondley | ok, should I delete it? |
| 12:20.09 | keith4 | you should at least move it. if you're sure you don't need it, then you can delete it |
| 12:20.14 | Sling | by mounting with -r as option |
| 12:20.28 | stevedondley | ok, where should I move it to? |
| 12:20.32 | keith4 | wherever you want |
| 12:20.36 | keith4 | how about betabackup? |
| 12:20.54 | keith4 | it seems to have ~85 gigs free |
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| 12:21.51 | turneralex | Hey guys, i'm having a bitch of a time formatting FC drives on my debian system, has anyone has success with this? |
| 12:22.11 | stevedondley | betabackup is taking a really long time |
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| 12:25.23 | stevedondley | ok, betabackkup reports 106G |
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| 12:26.22 | fantasticmrfox | Lo, I use Lenny, and I have a few NFS mounts in fstab (some off a NAS box, some off a debian etch server)... however after a short while they always seem to loose connection and the mounted directory ownership and attributes turn to question marks |
| 12:26.29 | fantasticmrfox | Anyone seen this problem before or have a solution>? |
| 12:27.01 | stevedondley | keith4: any ideas? |
| 12:27.32 | keith4 | eh? |
| 12:27.48 | keith4 | i meant you could move crap from /mnt/charliebackup to /mnt/betabackup/stuff-we-might-not-need, or whatever |
| 12:29.11 | stevedondley | I don't understand |
| 12:29.18 | stevedondley | what are those directories? |
| 12:29.25 | stevedondley | why are they in /mnt |
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| 12:29.51 | stevedondley | are they the reason my hard drive is reporting as full? |
| 12:30.23 | keith4 | uh |
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| 12:30.50 | keith4 | traditionally, you make directories in /mnt (perhaps /media, these days), and then mount things at those locations |
| 12:31.30 | keith4 | the output of 'mount' that you pasted indicates that you have a device mounted at /mnt/betabackup |
| 12:31.34 | keith4 | but nothing at /mnt/charliebackup |
| 12:32.01 | keith4 | so, when some cron job (just guessing here) tried to write a backup to /mnt/charliebackup, but nothing is mounted there.... you fill up /, since /mnt resides in / |
| 12:32.20 | stevedondley | I see |
| 12:32.42 | stevedondley | what is the size of / |
| 12:32.43 | stevedondley | ? |
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| 12:33.08 | keith4 | looking at your pastebin... looks like it's about 1.9G |
| 12:33.14 | stevedondley | ok |
| 12:33.23 | keith4 | which, if you take that 1.3G from /mnt/charliebackup, and the 500M or so of other stuff.... = FULL |
| 12:33.57 | abrotman | i wish i were FULL |
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| 12:34.16 | keith4 | is full |
| 12:34.36 | stevedondley | ok, should I dismount betabackup? |
| 12:34.48 | keith4 | ... no |
| 12:34.53 | stevedondley | ok |
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| 12:35.02 | keith4 | sounds like you should call your "guy" |
| 12:35.08 | stevedondley | shit |
| 12:35.12 | keith4 | get him out of bed. you're in MA? it's not that early there |
| 12:35.15 | stevedondley | well, he's asleep |
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| 12:35.22 | stevedondley | he's in CA |
| 12:35.26 | keith4 | ah, suck |
| 12:35.29 | keith4 | where in MA are you? |
| 12:35.48 | stevedondley | 90 miles west of boston |
| 12:36.01 | stevedondley | why? |
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| 12:36.09 | keith4 | just curious. I grew up on the north shore |
| 12:36.19 | stevedondley | and he usually sleeps in |
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| 12:36.31 | Petur | heLLo |
| 12:36.31 | stevedondley | his cell is off |
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| 12:36.49 | keith4 | dondelelcaro: i mean... i'm not trying to be a dick, but it sounds like you're not comfortable messing with this |
| 12:36.54 | keith4 | wtf |
| 12:36.58 | keith4 | stevedondley: ^^ |
| 12:37.00 | keith4 | dondelelcaro: sorry |
| 12:37.15 | stevedondley | what's that? |
| 12:37.35 | stevedondley | yeah, dondelelcaro is who set this up for me |
| 12:37.50 | keith4 | sounds like you aren't comfortable mucking with this system |
| 12:38.01 | turneralex | i'm having a bitch of a time formatting FC drives on my debian system, has anyone has success with this? |
| 12:38.06 | keith4 | FC? |
| 12:38.24 | stevedondley | I'm not comfortable? no, not really |
| 12:38.25 | keith4 | stevedondley: if you move that stuff out of /mnt/charliebackup to *anywhere else*, it should buy you enough time to wait for CA to wakeup |
| 12:38.33 | stevedondley | ok |
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| 12:39.57 | stevedondley | ok, I'm going to do mv charliebackup /home/<my_dir> |
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| 12:40.59 | stevedondley | but could there be a process running that is still filling up / |
| 12:41.08 | stevedondley | the backup system he set up? |
| 12:41.28 | keith4 | it probably stopped, once the disk was full |
| 12:41.39 | stevedondley | keith, that did the trick |
| 12:41.47 | stevedondley | fuck yeah! |
| 12:42.38 | jaalto | If I migrate my MTA/spamassassin to another host, can I just copy the bayes database as well from /var/spool/spamassassin? |
| 12:43.33 | keith4 | jaalto: might be a question for #spamassassin |
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| 12:43.57 | jaalto | keith4: All are at sleep there. |
| 12:44.30 | hoxu | so be patient :) |
| 12:44.38 | stevedondley | keith, let me paypay you something |
| 12:44.49 | keith4 | don't be ridiculous |
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| 12:44.54 | keith4 | i'm on company time already ;-) |
| 12:45.00 | stevedondley | hehehe |
| 12:45.04 | stevedondley | you just bailed my ass out |
| 12:45.17 | turneralex | keith4: Fiber Channel |
| 12:45.22 | stevedondley | would have been pacing all morning fretting like a maniac |
| 12:45.27 | keith4 | i take as much as i give, from this channel. don't worry |
| 12:45.34 | keith4 | it's not like i'm some saint |
| 12:45.41 | cahoot | phew - resurrected from a botched upgrade of udev |
| 12:45.43 | hoxu | yeah, that would be me ! |
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| 12:45.59 | hoxu | !flw |
| 12:45.59 | dpkg | flw9 is probably <snadge> i want to create a version of debian that violates as many patents as possible, and is crammed full of non free software and warez.. call it debian warez edition. what do you think? :P |
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| 12:47.41 | cryingtux | hello |
| 12:47.50 | Peanut | I've just upgraded my etch install to etch-n-half by installing the new kernel image. Etch-n-half comes with a cxgb driver for the Chelsio 10Gb/s ethernet interface - but it will not load, it complains about a firmware issue. |
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| 12:48.20 | cryingtux | im looking for debian servers channel but it is not available on xchat, can somebody guide me how can i join that server |
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| 12:48.40 | Peanut | I cannot find anything on google regarding Debian (Etch) and cxgb drivers - does anyone have information where to look? |
| 12:48.44 | s0nix | hi, anyone can tell me what is "Standards-Version" in the debian/control file? (deb packaging) |
| 12:48.58 | moshii | Peanut: you probably need to supply the firmware binaries |
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| 12:49.13 | Peanut | moshii: ah, that's possible - where would it want those? |
| 12:49.25 | moshii | Peanut: /lib/firmware IIRc |
| 12:49.44 | Peanut | Thanks, moshii - and I can get those from the Chelsio site, I guess. |
| 12:50.08 | moshii | Peanut: usually there are packages in non-free that supply the firmware |
| 12:50.31 | Peanut | Oh, that might be why apt-cache doesn't show them.. |
| 12:50.33 | Hammar | when i press the power-button on my maschine, it gets shut down without further ado. how could i change that? |
| 12:51.10 | s0nix | kk the policy manual |
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| 12:51.34 | Maulkin | Stop pressing the power button? :) |
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| 12:53.44 | moshii | Hammar: you probably need to change your acpi scripts |
| 12:54.04 | pingouin | Hammar: start by you motherboard bios |
| 12:54.23 | pingouin | then kernel power options |
| 12:54.25 | moshii | Hammar: ah, you mean it just turns off? |
| 12:54.43 | ssastre | hi there. I'm experiencin DoS activity and I've installed APF and (D)DoS Deflate |
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| 12:55.05 | ssastre | for some reason the dos deflate wont execute every minute |
| 12:55.15 | bartden | is it possible to scan data send to localhost ? |
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| 12:55.28 | moshii | bartden: network packets? |
| 12:55.37 | ssastre | but the cron record is there, and I've even added as root the crontab |
| 12:55.50 | bartden | moshii yes using wireshark, sorry for incompleteness |
| 12:55.55 | moshii | ssastre: have you checked roots mail? |
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| 12:56.08 | moshii | ssastre: maybe it's failing.. |
| 12:56.22 | ssastre | no mail for root |
| 12:56.32 | keith4 | pastebin the crontab? |
| 12:56.42 | ssastre | when I run manually the ddos.sh I receive the banned ones in my mail |
| 12:56.57 | Nyle | Good Morning |
| 12:57.18 | moshii | ssastre: so it'll run manually but not from cron? |
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| 12:57.21 | comp | moshii: hello again, just FYI; I've removed the kernel image and configured my own (excluding debian ways) ... and no broken dependencies so far :) |
| 12:57.28 | ssastre | root@earth:~# crontab -l |
| 12:57.28 | ssastre | # m h dom mon dow command |
| 12:57.28 | ssastre | 1 * * * * root /usr/local/ddos/ddos.sh >/dev/null 2>&1 |
| 12:57.43 | moshii | comp: I don't know what you're on about |
| 12:57.47 | Nyle | comp, bad idea |
| 12:57.50 | ssastre | before that I had 0-50/1 instead of 1 |
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| 12:58.01 | Nyle | comp, you will NOT find any support here for that |
| 12:58.03 | keith4 | ssastre: it's probably failing, but since you directed all output to /dev/null, you'll never know why |
| 12:58.05 | ssastre | I mean 0-59/1 |
| 12:58.06 | moshii | ssastre: that won't run every minute |
| 12:58.10 | Nyle | comp, if you want support, do it the debian way |
| 12:58.11 | moshii | ssastre: */1 |
| 12:58.16 | justin | */1 = 1 |
| 12:58.20 | ssastre | ok editting |
| 12:58.21 | justin | er |
| 12:58.24 | Nyle | hm |
| 12:58.24 | justin | */1 = * |
| 12:58.25 | Nyle | what |
| 12:58.28 | Nyle | heh |
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| 12:58.44 | comp | Nyle: I don |
| 12:58.50 | comp | want support |
| 12:58.55 | Nyle | then what are you doing here? |
| 12:58.55 | ssastre | heh... so just an asterisk in the minutes is ok right? |
| 12:58.56 | moshii | justin: yup.. but I wanted to point out that it's only running for the first minute not each minute ;) |
| 12:59.02 | comp | I just discussed this yesterday with moshii |
| 12:59.05 | Nyle | ok |
| 12:59.13 | Nyle | so long as you are aware |
| 12:59.28 | moshii | ssastre: the frequency for a job is one minute, so a * will do it you want it to run every minute |
| 12:59.29 | ssastre | need to restart cron right? |
| 12:59.34 | moshii | ssastre: no |
| 12:59.39 | comp | yes, it's #debian after all |
| 12:59.44 | moshii | comp: I don't think you did |
| 13:00.11 | rmrfchik | fights with bugzilla3/apache2 |
| 13:00.23 | rmrfchik | any lucky here with thich couple? |
| 13:00.23 | ssastre | heh, ok lets wait a bit |
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| 13:00.56 | comp | moshii: uh .. sorry, you're right |
| 13:00.56 | moshii | ssastre: you're isp should have ddos protection though ;) |
| 13:01.04 | Nyle | rmrfchik, [roblem? |
| 13:01.07 | Nyle | p |
| 13:01.10 | moshii | comp: I know I am. |
| 13:01.18 | justin | moshii: depends what kind it is |
| 13:01.49 | rmrfchik | Nyle: the first problem is "apache" group which bugzilla3 is used. this groups doesn't exists |
| 13:02.18 | ssastre | moshii, yes they have but I want this additional level until I contract a hardware protection service, they offer it and also they protect us without charge for a limit of 120 hours /month |
| 13:02.26 | rmrfchik | so, I did "chgrp -R www-data /usr/share/perl5/Bugzilla/" |
| 13:02.42 | rmrfchik | the next problem now is: "Error reading /etc/bugzilla3/params: Permission denied at /usr/share/perl5/Bugzilla/Config.pm line 312." |
| 13:03.01 | Nyle | never ran bugzilla |
| 13:03.06 | rmrfchik | duh |
| 13:03.08 | Nyle | dunno how to config it |
| 13:03.16 | ssastre | (this is my first experience with a DoS) |
| 13:03.16 | Nyle | with apache |
| 13:03.20 | moshii | ssastre: but once the data has gone down your cable you can't really it stop it |
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| 13:03.59 | justin | moshii: depends what kind of data it is |
| 13:04.39 | ssastre | moshii, true but I prefer the software firewall to stop it than apache getting stupid |
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| 13:05.09 | Nyle | how are firewalls going to help other than keep nasty traffic out |
| 13:05.18 | ssastre | mitigation by now willbe ok because is a development server |
| 13:05.22 | Nyle | other than that, if your network is saturated due to DoS, its still serious |
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| 13:05.31 | moshii | justin: If you were trying to dos a service by hitting it with loads of requests you could block hosts that are making those request. if it's a plain flood once the data is coming down your end of the cable there isn't all that much you can do. |
| 13:05.31 | Nyle | the only thing that CAN stop it is if the attacker stops |
| 13:05.45 | Nyle | quite frankly.. no protection against DoS |
| 13:05.49 | Nyle | not in the traditional sense |
| 13:06.05 | justin | moshii: yep, he seems to think it is the first case |
| 13:06.11 | ssastre | band is far from being saturated |
| 13:06.12 | justin | moshii: so then there is something that can be done about it |
| 13:06.26 | Nyle | ssastre, well then carry on :) |
| 13:06.34 | Nyle | I guess the attacker is a 'tard. |
| 13:06.38 | moshii | ssastre: that's a pretty shit DDoS then |
| 13:07.17 | ssastre | I dont get those guys |
| 13:07.21 | justin | moshii: depending on the server software it doesn't need to be |
| 13:07.47 | justin | you can easily take out some apache configurations just by slowly requesting a lot of pages with keepalive |
| 13:07.52 | Nyle | true |
| 13:07.59 | Nyle | but ddos isn't really dependent on the software |
| 13:08.11 | Nyle | the main point is to saturate the network so no useful traffic gets through |
| 13:08.23 | Nyle | expoloiting various software bugs for ddos is secondary |
| 13:08.26 | justin | DDoS doesn't specify that it is a flood |
| 13:08.30 | Peanut | moshii: thanks for the hints, the firmware isn't in non-free but it's on the Chelsio firmware archive site. |
| 13:08.32 | justin | bzzzt |
| 13:08.37 | Nyle | justin, true |
| 13:08.46 | Nyle | justin, though it is synonymous with that |
| 13:08.49 | Nyle | usually thats what comes to mind |
| 13:08.56 | ssastre | N minutes has happened and I'm not receiving emails from the ddos.sh |
| 13:08.56 | justin | usually, but that isn't what it means |
| 13:08.57 | moshii | Peanut: you should email and get them to allow distribution.. save a lot of headaches |
| 13:09.03 | Nyle | you're right |
| 13:09.09 | justin | ssastre: how did you edit the crontab? |
| 13:09.23 | Peanut | moshii: I'm actually in discussion with Chelsio about Debian support - and have at least a little leverage because I don't want to buy just one. |
| 13:09.46 | ssastre | as root made "crontab -e" opened nano |
| 13:09.50 | moshii | ssastre: add "&& echo Ive run!" to the cronjob, that way it should send a mail when it runs.. |
| 13:10.08 | Nyle | hahaha |
| 13:10.13 | Nyle | Peanut, what a great nickname |
| 13:10.20 | Nyle | peanut |
| 13:10.21 | Nyle | hehe |
| 13:10.23 | moshii | ssastre: unless you have MAILTO="" or broken mail-for-root |
| 13:10.29 | Peanut | Nyle: my HAM-radio callsign happens to be PE1NUT, hence the nickname. |
| 13:10.43 | ssastre | I think not as I receive mails whenI run it manually |
| 13:11.00 | moshii | Peanut: not just debian support, if they allow distribution of the firmware everyone can use it :) |
| 13:11.32 | keith4 | ssastre: might be a path issue, if the script isn't well-written |
| 13:11.33 | moshii | ssastre: you should mails from cron with the output of the jobs |
| 13:11.39 | Peanut | But would Debian even include such a firmware, if they don't have the source to it, moshii? |
| 13:11.46 | ssastre | the && echo Ive run should be in the same line as the script? I mean after the > /dev/null 2>&1 ? |
| 13:11.48 | moshii | Peanut: yes, in non-free |
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| 13:11.58 | wols_ | Peanut: no. if it'S not DFSG compliant, then no firmware |
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| 13:12.19 | wols_ | moshii: that#s not debian :P. e.g. it won't even go onto a debian CD for example |
| 13:12.20 | Peanut | Hmm.. interesting, two conflicting anwsers :-) |
| 13:12.21 | CharminTheMoose | is back again |
| 13:12.46 | moshii | wols_: having it in non-free is still more useful that having to dig the files out of windows installers etc ;) |
| 13:12.56 | keith4 | ssastre: again... if it's throwing any errors, you're discarding all output, so you won't see them |
| 13:13.03 | ssastre | I'm only receiving a daily mail of anacron logrotate so maybe there is a problem with my cron? |
| 13:13.06 | keith4 | take out the output redirection |
| 13:13.06 | Peanut | http://service.chelsio.com/driver-archives.html - that's where I found them. |
| 13:13.17 | ssastre | ok |
| 13:13.21 | wols_ | true, bue if it'S wlan firmware you need to be able to get internet access or SCSI firmware to mount your disks you are very SOL |
| 13:14.16 | moshii | Peanut: it can be a lot harder to get the firmware for wlan cards etc.. like have to install the windows drivers in wine and dig the files out :( |
| 13:14.50 | moshii | Peanut: s/have/having/ |
| 13:14.57 | Peanut | moshii: I know :-( |
| 13:15.18 | ssastre | ah ! I've received a mail: "/bin/sh: root: command not found" so path issue right? |
| 13:15.37 | justin | ssastre: no |
| 13:15.51 | Peanut | What exactly are the proper steps to turn your system into a etch-n-half - just install the kernel image and reboot? |
| 13:15.58 | justin | ssastre: if you edited teh crontab with crontab -e, you edited roots crontab and not the system wide crontab |
| 13:15.59 | wols_ | !etchnhalf |
| 13:15.59 | dpkg | "etch + 1/2" -- an update to Debian's stable release "etch" designed to provide support for newer hardware. It includes a 2.6.24 kernel along with an updated installer. Release notes: http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/etchnhalf Installation instructions: http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/debian-installer/etchnhalf See also http://wiki.debian.org/EtchAndAHalf, or <etchnhalf facts> |
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| 13:16.04 | justin | ssastre: thus, the 'root' in the line should not be there |
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| 13:16.58 | ssastre | then is something with crontab I'm not getting straight |
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| 13:17.31 | Peanut | Oh.. you have to install it from scratch, you can't upgrade to etch-n-half ? |
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| 13:17.50 | ssastre | so I've removed root from that line |
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| 13:18.24 | ssastre | yay |
| 13:18.33 | Nyle | .24? |
| 13:18.34 | Nyle | bah |
| 13:18.34 | ssastre | Banned the following ip addresses ... |
| 13:18.46 | ssastre | seems to works |
| 13:20.02 | roxy_ | how can I compare a file to the original in the debian package ? |
| 13:20.04 | blab | :) |
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| 13:20.20 | TurboTech | is away: bed |
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| 13:21.12 | cahoot | roxy_: diff? |
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| 13:21.44 | roxy_ | cahoot: no magic command like dpkg-show-change ? |
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| 13:22.07 | cahoot | changelog? |
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| 13:25.09 | ssastre | hourly bandwidth usage started to fall |
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| 13:27.25 | kimabrandt | I am packaging a program... the init file is in the package but does not install to /etc/init.d/!? What did I miss? |
| 13:28.07 | cahoot | kimabrandt: not a debian pkg? |
| 13:28.14 | ssastre | apache is firm now |
| 13:28.22 | cahoot | kimabrandt: disregard please |
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| 13:28.30 | ssastre | thank you for the assistance guys, it really made a difference |
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| 13:29.42 | jimcooncat | I'd like to make some packages, and would like my package names not to conflict with others in the debian/ubuntu repositories. Best way is to add a prefix, like jimcooncat-openssh? |
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| 13:36.44 | moshii | jimcooncat: maybe better to append that string.. and make sure your packages conflict with the debian ones |
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| 13:37.05 | Elive_user79 | where i can get new version for amsn ? |
| 13:37.15 | moshii | jimcooncat: conflict as is you can't have both installed |
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| 13:37.48 | noboru | can anyone tell me which command to ban an IP range from accessing to my server ? |
| 13:38.10 | jimcooncat | moshii: got ya, thanks. appending the string would probably make it simpler to find the package too |
| 13:38.30 | moshii | noboru: there are the /etc/hosts.* files and you could use iptables with the IP as the src parameter |
| 13:38.41 | Sertse | Hide I'm trying to get hp-systray working. error message was something about needing dbus support. Trying it in terminal gives this http://pastebin.ca/1172940 . tips? |
| 13:38.42 | moshii | jimcooncat: my thoughts exactly |
| 13:38.59 | noboru | i would like to ban ,for example 1.2.3.x |
| 13:39.11 | noboru | moshii, how about with iptables ,please ? |
| 13:39.23 | moshii | jimcooncat: you might want to rig up some provides as well, so that you packages are drop-in replacments for the debian ones |
| 13:39.40 | moshii | noboru: I can point you to a guide in Japanese if you want (/me is guessing you're japanese) |
| 13:40.49 | roxy_ | how can I open a .deb ? |
| 13:40.51 | moshii | noboru: the iptables man page is fully translated.. |
| 13:41.13 | Elive_user79 | where i can get new version for amsn ? |
| 13:41.23 | moshii | Elive_user79: google. |
| 13:41.32 | Sertse | hi |
| 13:41.41 | jimcooncat | moshii: I was thinking more like, taking openssh for example, having openssh-jimcooncat depend on openssh, and just have it overwrite /etc/ssh/ssh_config with my preference for blowfish |
| 13:41.48 | moshii | Elive_user79: if you're running etch but want new versions look up backports |
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| 13:42.36 | noboru | i found it,but i do not understand this,if i would like to ban 1.2.3.x ,it should be 1.2.3.0/16 or 1.2.3.0/32 ? |
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| 13:42.39 | moshii | jimcooncat: you can add a string to the version and make it higher than the debian packages so it doesn't get touched.. |
| 13:42.55 | jimcooncat | Elive_user79: If it's not working you'll need to check the tcl and tk versions its using. |
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| 13:43.22 | ribnitz | heyas |
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| 13:44.27 | ribnitz | If I want to upgrade form 100 MBit/s networking to GBit networking, all I need is another switch? |
| 13:44.41 | moshii | noboru: turns out you're in china ;).. anyhow the iptables manpage is what you want to look at |
| 13:44.54 | noboru | :) |
| 13:45.01 | moshii | ribnitz: and a nic that supports gigabit ethernet |
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| 13:45.17 | ribnitz | moshii: and a cable that does, yes. |
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| 13:45.33 | moshii | ribnitz: cat5+ is good for gigabit iirc |
| 13:45.43 | jimcooncat | ribnitz: and you may want to make sure your cable is better than cat 5, like cat 5e or cat 6 |
| 13:45.59 | ribnitz | moshii: grey, blue, red, green, with RJ45 plug at each end. |
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| 13:46.14 | varlon | hi :-) how to move text block (a while 7-8 lines) by vi ? I know, it's not debian specific qustion, but where can I ask yet? |
| 13:46.20 | ribnitz | jimcooncat: Why? |
| 13:46.32 | moshii | ribnitz: um, you need 4 pairs for gigabit don't you.. |
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| 13:47.00 | ribnitz | moshii: I was talking about the colors of the cable (4 cables) |
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| 13:47.34 | ribnitz | jimcooncat: Are you saying itzs better to go to 10 GBit? |
| 13:47.40 | jimcooncat | ribnitz: cat 5 wasn't rated for gigabit. But it may work anyway, if it's good quality line, your runs aren't very long, you don't have a lot of jacks and stuff in the mix. |
| 13:47.46 | moshii | ribnitz: you'll want decent cables if you want to actually get gigabit but that's up to you |
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| 13:48.11 | moshii | wonders if 10Gb is copper.. |
| 13:48.13 | jimcooncat | ribnitz: no, 10 GBit is likely overkill |
| 13:48.14 | ribnitz | how od I see what cat a cable is? |
| 13:48.28 | jimcooncat | ribnitz: it's printed on the side of it |
| 13:48.32 | \amethyst | ribnitz: it should be printed on the sheath |
| 13:48.35 | ribnitz | jimcooncat: my nfs server gets 1 GBit/s sustained read. |
| 13:49.26 | ribnitz | \amethyst: Cat 5 S-FTP? |
| 13:49.39 | moshii | ribnitz: you could also use channel bonding |
| 13:49.50 | jimcooncat | ribnitz: that's pretty darn good |
| 13:50.08 | ribnitz | jimcooncat: that does gbit? |
| 13:50.24 | jimcooncat | ribnitz: what does? |
| 13:50.24 | moshii | ribnitz: if you have lots of switches with trunks between them you can stick a different interface into each switch ;) |
| 13:50.25 | ribnitz | moshii: Channel bonding? |
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| 13:50.40 | moshii | ribnitz: one machine - lots of interfaces |
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| 13:51.10 | ribnitz | moshii: AFAIK ethernet does not support that; means I need special switch? |
| 13:51.10 | moshii | ribnitz: I'm surprised you can get 1Gb/sec out of your nfs server though, you're disks must be fast |
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| 13:51.29 | moshii | ribnitz: depends on what technology you want to use to bond the chanells |
| 13:51.40 | moshii | ribnitz: s/chanells/channels |
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| 13:52.06 | moshii | ribnitz: s/you're/your/ also ;) |
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| 13:53.00 | jimcooncat | ribnitz: if you have to spring for new cable (and it's not a huge installation) see that it says "riser" on the box. It's tougher, more forgiving if you're running up walls with it. |
| 13:53.36 | ribnitz | moshii: 4 Enterprise class drives ( Maxtor 7V300F0), as a Software Raid 5 |
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| 13:54.57 | moshii | ribnitz: enterprise class meaning they have a sticker on them that says "Enterprise class" ? |
| 13:55.28 | ribnitz | moshii: 2034 MB in 2 s (cached read) (1017 MB/sec), 420 MB in 3.04s (-> 137.98 MB/sec) on the RAID 5 |
| 13:55.53 | moshii | ribnitz: that's with hdparm -Tt? |
| 13:55.57 | ribnitz | moshii: The disk does 72 MByte/s sustained data transfer rate. |
| 13:56.12 | ribnitz | moshii: yep, on the RAID 5 |
| 13:56.16 | moshii | ribnitz: so you don't get lots of random accesses over nfs |
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| 13:56.56 | ribnitz | moshii: The NFs server is used by myself (audio collection) |
| 13:57.07 | moshii | saying that.. I'm pretty sure the 2TB raid box I built for <400 quid gets that sort of throughput :) |
| 13:57.58 | ribnitz | moshii: 4x300 GB, in a RAID 5; (RAID 1 to boot), means about 900 GB usable capacity |
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| 13:58.24 | ribnitz | moshii: the reason I want to upgrade to GBit.. |
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| 13:59.09 | noboru | ,i forgot which command to show which chain are matched by the packages |
| 13:59.11 | moshii | ribnitz: so you just need a Gb switch, some decent cables and a decent nic.. if you hardware it's too old it's probably already got a Gb nic |
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| 13:59.18 | abrotman | there is #networking ? |
| 13:59.24 | noboru | iptables -m -v -t seems doesn't work :( |
| 13:59.39 | noboru | hi abrotman ,how are you |
| 13:59.43 | ribnitz | abrotman: ok. I will ask there. |
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| 14:01.21 | Sling | hmm |
| 14:01.25 | screamingbytes | mornin all |
| 14:01.29 | Sling | why is my smbfs mount not working |
| 14:01.29 | ribnitz | More debian related. how do you convert wma to something actually playable? |
| 14:01.38 | Sling | smbclient works for the share |
| 14:01.55 | Sling | but mount -t smbfs -o user=foo //machine/share /mnt/share doesnt |
| 14:02.06 | idimmu | how is conversion of video formats 'more debian related'? :D |
| 14:02.13 | idimmu | also. mplayer ? |
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| 14:02.23 | Sling | ?--------- ? ? ? ? ? music |
| 14:02.29 | Sling | thats how the dir looks like when mounted |
| 14:02.32 | moshii | idimmu: wma is audio ;) |
| 14:02.45 | idimmu | colour me stupid |
| 14:02.54 | idimmu | mplayer will still convert it though i think? |
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| 14:03.49 | moshii | idimmu: yep |
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| 14:05.27 | shyam_k | hi my friend's debian lenny installation was successful but xserver says no valid font path found.. |
| 14:05.42 | screamingbytes | ribnitz: this might work - xmms2-plugin-wma, if you use xmms of course |
| 14:06.29 | screamingbytes | idimmu: possibly something on non-free, but wma is M$ isn't it? |
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| 14:06.55 | shyam_k | what can be done in shell to cure? some environmental variable change? |
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| 14:07.10 | idimmu | windows media audio i guess screamingbytes |
| 14:07.34 | idimmu | you might need w32codecs or something |
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| 14:08.17 | Sling | anybody can shed some light on my smb issue? |
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| 14:09.05 | Trewas | there's open source code to decode most variants of wma in libavcodec (so also in mplayer), some may need w32codecs and if it is drm'ed nothing will decode it in linux |
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| 14:09.24 | idimmu | do you actually have smbfs installed Sling ? |
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| 14:09.41 | screamingbytes | yea i downloaded the w32codec pack |
| 14:10.10 | Sling | idimmu : i even have other smbfs shares working between the same 2 hosts |
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| 14:10.18 | idimmu | :o |
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| 14:11.42 | screamingbytes | lol im pokin around reading about converting them cause ive never worried aobut it. I found several sites that say just change all *.wma reference to *.mp3, and a few other things, there are scripts posted lol |
| 14:11.56 | screamingbytes | http://www.mepis.org/node/11953 |
| 14:12.03 | elik | abrotman, did you send me a message? I just found out someone wrote me a message, but my history doesn't go back far enough so I can see it |
| 14:12.03 | screamingbytes | example there of what im talkin about |
| 14:12.12 | elik | abrotman, but you are the last person I spoke with |
| 14:12.15 | abrotman | elik: uh maybe yesterday :) |
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| 14:12.25 | ezguy | anyone recommend using squashfs? will there be a performance impact for using it? |
| 14:12.29 | Zharf | how do I generate a new public key for my ssh |
| 14:12.57 | Zharf | (when I connect somewhere with ssh it says public key blah blah blacklisted, refusing to send it |
| 14:13.05 | Zharf | ) |
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| 14:13.17 | \amethyst | Zharf: ssh-keygen will generate a new keypair |
| 14:13.31 | \amethyst | Zharf: or do you mean the public host key? |
| 14:14.01 | elik | abrotman, concerning my problem, you think there is a way to prevent that waiting on ata2 |
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| 14:14.19 | Zharf | \amethyst, not sure, maybe... |
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| 14:15.02 | \amethyst | Zharf: are you running etch? Have you done security updates in the past few months? |
| 14:15.10 | liable | whats the image viewer that starts with q? |
| 14:15.14 | Zharf | \amethyst, sid |
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| 14:15.59 | \amethyst | Zharf: what version of openssh-client? |
| 14:16.30 | Zharf | 1:5.1p1-2 |
| 14:16.57 | abrotman | elik: rebooting without the usb drive plugged in didn't help ? |
| 14:17.15 | elik | abrotman, nah |
| 14:17.30 | \amethyst | !dsa1571 |
| 14:17.30 | dpkg | Due to a weakness in a random number generator, keys generated after 2006-09-17 (using openssl 0.9.8c-1 and later) need to be regenerated with a newer openssl (at least 0.9.8c-4etch3). See http://www.debian.org/security/2008/dsa-1571 http://wiki.debian.org/SSLkeys Updated openssh packages that check for weak keys are also now available. Ask me about <ssl update><dsa1576><ssh-vulnkey><dsa1571 jokes> |
| 14:17.45 | elik | abrotman, actually, it's worse cause I have a fstab entry, so when it tries to scan it... |
| 14:17.52 | abrotman | oh cute |
| 14:17.56 | abrotman | you oculd set it to noauto |
| 14:18.03 | \amethyst | Zharf: sounds like the key (either the host key or the user's key) was generated with a version of ssh that has the bug |
| 14:18.13 | \amethyst | Zharf: read those, especially the wiki page |
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| 14:18.17 | elik | abrotman, That sounds like a good idea :) |
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| 14:18.37 | elik | abrotman, will it mount it if it's there? |
| 14:18.42 | \amethyst | Zharf: if you generated other crypto keys at around the same time, more than just ssh might need the keys replaced |
| 14:18.47 | abrotman | yeah .. you would just mount it manually as needed |
| 14:19.01 | Zharf | \amethyst, I did, I got the impression that it was supposed to be fixed with just updating to a fixed version, but I have openssl 0.9.8g and it works fine on my other sid box :/ |
| 14:19.19 | \amethyst | Zharf: you still have to regerate the bad keys |
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| 14:19.38 | \amethyst | Zharf: it might be a user key |
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| 14:19.51 | Zharf | I'll just regenerate everything |
| 14:19.59 | \amethyst | Zharf: there's a package ssh-vulnkeys to check keys for weakness, might be useful |
| 14:20.04 | \amethyst | Zharf: remember user keys too |
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| 14:20.53 | elik | abrotman, and for the ata2, any way to skip that? |
| 14:21.04 | \amethyst | Zharf: actually, it's in the openssh-client package; it's the executable that's called ssh-vulnkey |
| 14:21.46 | Zharf | yeah I have it |
| 14:21.48 | Zharf | mmh |
| 14:21.59 | Zharf | I hope I don't have that in any authorized_keys |
| 14:22.01 | Zharf | oh well |
| 14:23.34 | Dantix | hi all, I have a problem with a debian xen domu with 2 eths, eth0 works fine but I cannot ping the outside world trought eth1, from outside to eth1 works fine, where can I start from? |
| 14:23.54 | keith4 | checking your routes |
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| 14:25.29 | Dantix | keith4: I`ve issued router -C and saw weird thing there, how can I flush the cache? |
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| 14:26.56 | rnix | hi |
| 14:27.24 | shyam_k | HI what all can cause to have "no valid font path" error after a fresh lenny installation? i dont have access to the system now so cant give you the logs:( my friend says that /var/log/xorg.0.log dont have anything as (E) but have some(WW) as some modes failed.. |
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| 14:28.37 | keith4 | running etch, I have a really strange DNS issue. when I try to resolve a non-existent host using "host", I get answers the first time, but not subsequent times. When I "dig" a fake address, I get authoritative answers from a different domain entirely. see http://pastebin.com/m60419a8f |
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| 14:29.21 | rnix | i have 4 servers, each with 2 nic's. 1 nic of each machine is used to build a private network between these boxes, the other one is public. for any reason the nic's for the private net dies fitful |
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| 14:30.01 | rnix | then, when trying to ping some private machine i get -> icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable |
| 14:30.24 | hoxu | keith4, change your ISPs nameservers to opendns |
| 14:30.48 | hoxu | keith4, what does "dig porttest.dns-oarc.net. in txt" say? |
| 14:30.53 | rnix | restarting the network effect nothing |
| 14:30.57 | rnix | any ideas? |
| 14:31.15 | rnix | even restarting the system is no help |
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| 14:31.23 | keith4 | hoxu: http://pastebin.com/m73214d5f |
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| 14:31.33 | hoxu | rnix, fix your routes? :) |
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| 14:33.14 | rnix | hoxu: they seem ok -> http://paste.plone.org/23221 |
| 14:33.22 | hoxu | keith4, was the earlier paste verbatim? |
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| 14:33.28 | keith4 | hoxu: yep |
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| 14:34.47 | hoxu | keith4, and you haven't messed with the DNS servers you get via DHCP? |
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| 14:34.57 | zzzzzz | hello |
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| 14:35.13 | keith4 | hoxu: just prepended with 127.0.0.1 via dhclient.conf |
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| 14:35.29 | Spec | modifying is a shell script while it's running is harmless, right? when you execute it the first time, it loads all the instructions into memory? |
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| 14:35.34 | keith4 | hoxu: those two 208.59.247.x addresses come from the ISP via DHCP |
| 14:35.35 | hoxu | keith4, right, and if you take that out it works? |
| 14:35.51 | keith4 | hoxu: no. i haven't changed any configs between those pastes |
| 14:35.52 | zzzzzz | is there a way to keep some folders in /tmp from being removed by the system after reboot? |
| 14:35.59 | hoxu | Spec, I would think so, yes, but I guess it depends on the interpreter |
| 14:36.18 | hoxu | zzzzzz, don't put non-temporary folders in /tmp? |
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| 14:36.59 | zzzzzz | hoxu: I've to put it there due to some reasons |
| 14:37.12 | Spec | /tmp is a terrible place to put non-tmp files |
| 14:37.46 | zzzzzz | so there's no way to retain the data after reboot? |
| 14:37.57 | rnix | does anyone see a problem with this routes -> http://paste.plone.org/23221 -> referring to the problem described above? |
| 14:38.09 | dara | zzzzzz: if you need a shed dont use a dust bin ;) |
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| 14:38.26 | ptman | zzzzzz: what are you really trying to do? what is primary problem that you solved by using /tmp |
| 14:38.28 | stew | zzzzzz: you can change TMPTIME in /etc/default/rcS so that only older files are deleeted |
| 14:38.39 | hoxu | zzzzzz, right, if you really want to break things you can tweak /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh |
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| 14:39.11 | zzzzzz | ptman, ah, it takes some time to explain, |
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| 14:39.31 | zzzzzz | anyway, thanks everyone, /tmp is not a good place to store things like that |
| 14:40.07 | hoxu | zzzzzz, you should really change whatever the program is though... TMPDIR environment variable to standards-compliant program should be enough :P |
| 14:40.39 | hoxu | keith4, you mean if you remove the 127.0.0.1 entry from your resolv.conf, you still get bogus replies? |
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| 14:41.02 | abrotman | elik: not that i'm aware of |
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| 14:41.15 | keith4 | hoxu: yes |
| 14:41.16 | magyar_ | hi, looking for a python package equivalent to tlslite for etch |
| 14:41.19 | hoxu | rnix, for your routing/whatever problem, use the standard tools: tcpdump, traceroute, tcptraceroute, iptables -j LOG etc... |
| 14:41.24 | keith4 | hoxu: here's digs from my office and from home http://pastebin.com/m62d46ee0 |
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| 14:41.25 | ptman | keith4: have you got nscd running? try restarting it |
| 14:41.39 | elik | abrotman, a'ight, thx for looking into this |
| 14:41.42 | keith4 | ptman: i've got bind running |
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| 14:42.15 | wthww__ | Hi! I'm installing etch on a sparcstation4 and it fails at loading the esp scsi module. Any idea whats going on? Or, am I not waiting for it long enough |
| 14:42.29 | hoxu | keith4, shut it down, do the query again, what do you get? |
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| 14:42.54 | alcohol | which of the following can tar handle? .tbz, .tgz, .zip ? |
| 14:42.58 | liable | wthww__: hrm, i vaguely recall a debian-boot mail about that some time back |
| 14:43.07 | wthww__ | It looks like its frozen, but I can still break into the openprom |
| 14:43.19 | hoxu | alcohol, the extensions are for bzip2, gzip, and zip... first two have tars inside |
| 14:43.20 | liable | wthww__: but it may have been a different module all together |
| 14:43.34 | liable | !sparc |
| 14:43.34 | dpkg | sparc is, like, the CPU architecture used in Sun's proprietary hardware. Non-embedded ones usually run Solaris, but to run Linux on it, visit http://www.ultralinux.org/faq.html, Type make vmlinux (not kernel, bzImage, lilo, anything like that) to compile the kernel. For more information about the SPARC architecture, see http://www.sparc.org. For help with Linux on SPARC look in #debian-sparc on irc.oftc.net, or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPARC |
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| 14:43.44 | keith4 | hoxu: ok. same thing, just with a slight delay, as localhost DNS times out: http://pastebin.com/m981cfce |
| 14:44.05 | liable | wthww__: ^^ try #debian-sparc on oftc. likely a bit of a wait for answers though i would think |
| 14:45.22 | hoxu | new factoid for you alcohol: |
| 14:45.23 | hoxu | !atool |
| 14:45.23 | dpkg | atool is probably a tool capable of extracting/creating archives of various types (tar/gzip/bzip2/zip/etc.) with a single command. It also overcomes the "multiple files in archive root" problem by extracting in a subdirectory (unless only one file is contained within) |
| 14:45.34 | shyam_k | !no valid font path |
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| 14:45.57 | liable | shyam_k: you can generally ignore that unless its fatal |
| 14:46.10 | liable | which it shouldnt be these days |
| 14:46.11 | shyam_k | liable: its fatal:( |
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| 14:46.27 | shyam_k | liable: and the xserver is not starting |
| 14:46.28 | Roy911 | Does anyone know how to enable MP3 streaming with IDJC? Currently it tells me MP3 stream is not available, and as a result, Shoutcast streaming also does not work. |
| 14:46.28 | liable | shyam_k: are you running sarge or something? |
| 14:46.34 | shyam_k | liable: no lenny! |
| 14:46.44 | keith4 | hoxu: could this be some lame 'search-assistant' DNS? or maybe the ISPs nameservers are 'sploited? |
| 14:46.58 | hoxu | keith4, I'd say your ISPs DNS servers are vulnerable, did you try OpenDNS as I suggested? |
| 14:47.16 | keith4 | not yet |
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| 14:47.22 | wthww__ | either opendns, or a big public dns like 4.2.2.1 |
| 14:47.26 | wthww__ | <3 4.2.2.1 |
| 14:47.52 | liable | shyam_k: what exactly did you install for x? |
| 14:47.58 | keith4 | hoxu: i log into a buddy's router, on the same ISP... only a few miles away. he has different DNS from the ISP, and doesn't have this problem |
| 14:48.21 | venger | whats the keyword to whisper to dpkg bot about the self signed certificate creation for dovecot? |
| 14:48.24 | hoxu | keith4, you should contact your ISP's tech deparment I think |
| 14:48.25 | SeveredCross | Wow, 4.2.2.1 responds really quickly. < 10 ms ping to it. |
| 14:48.43 | hoxu | listkeys dovecot |
| 14:48.51 | alcohol | how can I figure out if port 8080 is blocked/firewalled or open? |
| 14:48.54 | keith4 | hoxu: ugh. it would take *hours* to get someone on the phone who even knows wtf DNS is |
| 14:48.56 | shyam_k | liable: a fresh lenny install!! |
| 14:49.11 | liable | shyam_k: erm, yes. but what did you install? |
| 14:49.33 | Gryflhase | alcohol: type iptyles -L |
| 14:49.44 | liable | shyam_k: how exactly fif you install xorg? |
| 14:49.47 | alcohol | tables? |
| 14:49.52 | liable | s/fif/did/ |
| 14:50.01 | Gryflhase | yes, iptables, of course ;) |
| 14:50.12 | alcohol | doesn't show much ): |
| 14:50.13 | alcohol | hrm |
| 14:50.26 | shyam_k | liable: its my friend who did it.. but he should be done it with a graphical installer.. |
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| 14:50.47 | liable | shyam_k: so you have a command line now? |
| 14:50.55 | shyam_k | yeah |
| 14:50.56 | Gryflhase | I don't know how many ways you can block ports, iptables is the only solution I used so far |
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| 14:51.08 | liable | shyam_k: apt-get install xorg |
| 14:51.12 | shyam_k | ok.. |
| 14:51.27 | phrozen77 | anyone knows a few interesting rss feeds? |
| 14:51.37 | liable | shyam_k: is it installing packages or doing nothing? |
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| 14:52.15 | keith4 | hoxu: it's some queer "search results" shit. i just asked another guy on the same ISP to browse to "foobar.google.com", he ends up at http://ww17.searchresults.rcn.com/search?qo=foobar.google.com&rn=zZpfbAthB3b2mgM |
| 14:52.56 | hoxu | keith4, well, call your ISP and let them know what you think |
| 14:53.03 | keith4 | i'm going to |
| 14:53.07 | Roy911 | Does anyone know how to enable MP3 streaming with IDJC? Currently it tells me MP3 stream is not available, and as a result, Shoutcast streaming also does not work. |
| 14:53.10 | keith4 | fucking idiots |
| 14:53.51 | keith4 | ugh... i can't. put that bill in the girlfriend's name, so we could get the 'new customer' rate again |
| 14:53.53 | hoxu | keith4, unfortunately I think that shit is becoming a trend in the US... |
| 14:53.56 | keith4 | dammit! |
| 14:54.34 | shyam_k | liable: ah sorry he started with a fresh install!! ill go there tmrw and try it out with him.. once more...should be some problem with the way he did the installation..cant get a proper call too thats why i cant ask him more.. ill come back tmrw.. thanks a lott! |
| 14:55.16 | Peanut | What provider would that be, keith4? |
| 14:55.23 | keith4 | that would be RCN |
| 14:55.50 | justin | keith4: does the page have an opt out button? |
| 14:55.58 | maligor | keith4, they want to break the internet |
| 14:56.17 | liable | shyam_k: ok. good luck |
| 14:56.20 | keith4 | justin: negative |
| 14:56.22 | keith4 | maligor: apparently |
| 14:56.26 | maligor | justin, even that would be faulty behaviour, unless they have a very strange dns setup |
| 14:56.39 | alcohol | anyone able to help me solve an open/closed port issue? |
| 14:56.47 | justin | alcohol: what issue? |
| 14:56.53 | alcohol | well I need to open up port 8080 |
| 14:56.59 | keith4 | justin: oooh, wait. it might |
| 14:57.00 | alcohol | I just don't know what is blocking it.. |
| 14:57.06 | justin | alcohol: who says it's blocked? |
| 14:57.11 | alcohol | it doesn't appear to be iptables |
| 14:57.12 | maligor | keith4, you can always use alternative dns services |
| 14:57.30 | alcohol | cause the service I want to run on it cannot be called from outside |
| 14:57.42 | hoxu | alcohol, tcptraceroute |
| 14:57.51 | keith4 | justin: wtf? how the hell does this work? |
| 14:57.56 | keith4 | " Note: In order for opt-out to work properly, you need to accept a "cookie" indicating that you have opted out of this service. If you use a program that removes cookies, you will have to repeat this opt-out process when the cookie is deleted. The cookie placed on your computer will contain the site name: ".searchresults.rcn.com"." |
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| 14:58.27 | justin | keith4: lol, that makes no sense |
| 14:58.43 | maligor | pretty crappy service |
| 14:58.49 | justin | keith4: the redirect is done at the DNS level, cookies have nothing to do with it |
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| 14:58.58 | hoxu | keith4, that's not opt-out really |
| 14:58.59 | maligor | I think you have higher prices there AND crappier service :P |
| 14:59.10 | hoxu | I'm afraid this crap is getting common at ISP level |
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| 14:59.19 | keith4 | that's "we'll steal your DNS, and then redirect you to the DNS you wanted in the first place" |
| 14:59.23 | justin | my isp did it, but they had a nice big opt out button, that actually worked |
| 14:59.28 | hoxu | maligor, oh yeah? We don't have it much better, in comparison to sweden at least :( |
| 14:59.49 | maligor | hoxu, well.. no quotas |
| 15:00.03 | Roy911 | Does anyone know how to enable MP3 streaming with IDJC? Currently it tells me MP3 stream is not available, and as a result, Shoutcast streaming also does not work. |
| 15:00.35 | hoxu | maligor, well... I tend to think US is so low when it comes to internet connectivity that it's not worth comparing against :P |
| 15:01.43 | newsense | i line in us and prices are good |
| 15:01.48 | alcohol | hrrm |
| 15:01.52 | newsense | line/live |
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| 15:01.55 | alcohol | apache seems to be serving on 8080 |
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| 15:02.01 | alcohol | but in http.conf only port 80 is listed |
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| 15:02.22 | hoxu | newsense, define good |
| 15:02.40 | alcohol | wait |
| 15:02.41 | marast | Hi All |
| 15:02.44 | alcohol | locally it seems to run now |
| 15:02.45 | newsense | 7mbps down for 35.00 usd a month |
| 15:02.47 | hoxu | alcohol, netstat -nlpt |
| 15:02.53 | marast | Any idea how I unpack tar.bz files? |
| 15:03.03 | alcohol | tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:8080 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 20147/python |
| 15:03.06 | alcohol | that's good |
| 15:03.12 | keith4 | marast: tar xjf file.tar.bz |
| 15:03.13 | alcohol | but I can't reach it from the outside ): |
| 15:03.16 | hoxu | newsense, any quotas? |
| 15:03.21 | keith4 | marast: which you can find, in the man page |
| 15:03.21 | maligor | hoxu, that's that upcoming Welho service is 100/10 for 45eur/month, so it's clearly getting better ;) |
| 15:03.26 | hoxu | !tell marast about atool |
| 15:03.31 | newsense | hoxu, no |
| 15:03.43 | Shai | Hey all, I wrote simple bash script and it seems to work when executed however, I'm trying to get it to run under cron but cron reports that it fails because of a "Exec format error". Any advice? |
| 15:03.49 | keith4 | I have 20Mb from these clowns |
| 15:03.56 | marast | Any idea how I unpack tar.bz files on the command line |
| 15:03.59 | hoxu | maligor, I don't live where it's available, you insensitive clod ! :( |
| 15:04.05 | marast | I.e. via putty |
| 15:04.06 | marast | SSH |
| 15:04.18 | hoxu | marast, I'm afraid you need to learn to read first |
| 15:04.20 | newsense | 20mb dam must be nice |
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| 15:04.31 | Shai | marast - tar -xvvzf <file> or try -xvvjf I always get them mixed up. |
| 15:04.45 | stew | marast: /msg dpkg tar |
| 15:04.46 | marast | hoxu: Thank you |
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| 15:05.04 | keith4 | marast: i told you the answer already |
| 15:05.21 | marast | Thanks all!! |
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| 15:06.28 | Shai | Any ideas on the cron error? |
| 15:06.30 | alcohol | hoxu: so how can I figure out what is blocking port 8080? |
| 15:07.06 | Zambezi | Isn't there a way to modify the clock or add another which shows the week too? |
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| 15:07.29 | keith4 | Shai: pastebin your script |
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| 15:08.47 | wols_ | alcohol: do you have a router? |
| 15:09.07 | alcohol | wols_: to be honest I don't know, it's a rack machine. |
| 15:09.22 | wols_ | we can't either. ask your hoster then |
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| 15:09.39 | marast | Now how do I make a tar.bz file :) |
| 15:09.39 | Shai | Keith it's 4 lines l1 - #!/bin/sh l2 - cd /<my dir> l3 - wget http:/address/file l4 - mv <file> ~ |
| 15:09.42 | alcohol | there's no router according to my boss |
| 15:10.04 | Shai | keith4 it works if run from the commandline but not in cron apparently. |
| 15:10.04 | newsense | traceroute |
| 15:10.10 | wols_ | !tell marast about tar |
| 15:10.22 | alcohol | if I punch in the machines ip in firefox I get the page apache serves |
| 15:10.27 | hoxu | alcohol, I told you, tcptraceroute, then use tcpdump at target, source, at the routers, etc |
| 15:10.33 | alcohol | but I can't get the page served on :8080 by python |
| 15:10.53 | alcohol | tcptraceroute from where? |
| 15:10.59 | Shai | keith4 - Does cron expect a "real" script? |
| 15:11.16 | hoxu | alcohol, where ever you aren't getting to target:8080 or whatever |
| 15:11.19 | keith4 | "real"? |
| 15:11.22 | marast | wols_: I don't see tar.bz there |
| 15:11.37 | keith4 | Shai: cron usually doesn't have any env variables. like, PATH |
| 15:12.02 | Shai | keith4 - so I would have to set a path or use absolute paths to the commands? |
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| 15:12.10 | keith4 | Shai: worth a shot |
| 15:12.20 | Shai | keith4 - it is thanks. |
| 15:12.26 | keith4 | marast: read the man page for tar, and search for 'bzip' |
| 15:12.54 | hoxu | I already told him to use atool :( |
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| 15:13.40 | stew | Shai: what is the first line of the script? |
| 15:13.50 | alcohol | hoxu: http://pastebin.com/m76202c3a |
| 15:13.51 | alcohol | ): |
| 15:13.52 | Shai | #!/bin/sh |
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| 15:14.00 | alcohol | I cancelled it, seems it isn't getting through |
| 15:14.05 | stew | Shai: how are you adding it to cron? |
| 15:14.31 | Shai | crontab -u <user> -e |
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| 15:15.11 | hoxu | alcohol, that's pretty clear then |
| 15:15.54 | Shai | Anyway to make cron run it now rather than wait an hour? |
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| 15:16.46 | hoxu | you wanted to ask: "How do I run a script with the same environment as cron would?" |
| 15:17.05 | keith4 | Shai: heh. change the entry to run every 5 minutes instead |
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| 15:17.22 | keith4 | or change your clock? |
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| 15:17.30 | beardy | No.. |
| 15:17.35 | Shai | hoxu - I probably do but, I don't know enough about cron to know. |
| 15:17.36 | hoxu | bad advice |
| 15:17.39 | alcohol | hoxu: yes, this sux :< |
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| 15:17.57 | hoxu | alcohol, fix the firewall. |
| 15:17.57 | beardy | Shai: Have you pasted the script in a pastebin for us? |
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| 15:18.37 | Shai | beardy - no. I'll paste it here. it's 4 lines l1 - #!/bin/sh l2 - cd /<my dir> l3 - wget http:/address/file l4 - mv <file> ~ |
| 15:18.40 | hoxu | Is there a way to clear all environment variables easily? |
| 15:18.47 | alcohol | hoxu: there shouldn't be one. |
| 15:19.03 | alcohol | I'll contact the person that might have something to do with it |
| 15:19.04 | keith4 | Shai: I don't know why you think that's more useful than a pastebin |
| 15:19.05 | alcohol | thanks for your help |
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| 15:19.35 | hoxu | "shouldn't be" is definitely flw |
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| 15:19.49 | stew | Shai: how exactly are you running it that it is working?} |
| 15:19.58 | ewet | hi, 2nd attempt: I'm trying to set doom3 screen resolution to 960x600 but only half of the screen is shown (and streched). I remember this must have to do with my modelines. I tried gtf to set some variants and try them out but that's not really efficient. so is there a way in debian to find all (possible) videomodes to ask gtf for? |
| 15:20.02 | beardy | Shai: Ah.. well, paste it there. If you want help with your crontab, paste it too. TO run it "now" instead of later.. run it in one minute? |
| 15:20.10 | Shai | hold on |
| 15:20.18 | newsense | hmmm i hear some people in georgia found a bigfoot body hahah |
| 15:20.29 | Roy911 | Again, does anyone know how to enable MP3 streaming with IDJC? Currently it tells me MP3 stream is not available, and as a result, Shoutcast streaming also does not work. |
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| 15:20.46 | keith4 | wtf is IDJC? |
| 15:20.59 | Roy911 | Internet DJ Console, for Shoutcast and Icecast |
| 15:21.40 | keith4 | what does that have to do with debian? |
| 15:21.42 | jpinx | anyone know a command that will read all the superblocks on a prtition and allow me to fix one to work? |
| 15:21.58 | stew | keith4: presumably he is talking about the idjc package |
| 15:22.03 | Roy911 | Where else would I get support for something that's supposed to work on debian? |
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| 15:22.31 | keith4 | stew: ah, perhaps. my fault, i typo'd it while searching for it |
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| 15:23.01 | keith4 | oh, it's also only in sid... |
| 15:23.16 | Roy911 | I compiled my own from their website. |
| 15:23.41 | Shai | Hold on I think I may have found the problem. If that's not it I'll pastebin it. |
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| 15:24.16 | beardy | Roy911: Then this is not the right place really. What's wrong with the one that is packaged, if it is? |
| 15:24.25 | losinggeneration | is there a way to remove programs from sysvinit that keeps them removed until I explicitly enable them (for instance, I've done update-rc.d -f program_to_disable remove, but after a dist-upgrade, probably upgrades too. The program is reenabled.) |
| 15:24.42 | Roy911 | Er, I'm using lenny, the sid packge probably wouldn't work, beardy. |
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| 15:24.56 | stew | Roy911: why not? |
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| 15:25.30 | Roy911 | Missing dependencies when I tried, stew. |
| 15:25.40 | wols_ | marast: then learn to read |
| 15:25.50 | gkkk | I have a problem |
| 15:26.00 | gkkk | I installed kernel 2.6.18-5-686 |
| 15:26.12 | wols_ | oh, bz. tar it, then bzip it. tho no one uses tar.bz2 |
| 15:26.18 | wols_ | erm no one sues tar.bt |
| 15:26.22 | gkkk | etch, but I have SATA hdd, changed /dev/hdc1 to /dev/sda1 from menu.lst |
| 15:26.28 | beardy | Roy911: It'd be the first thing to try, first, check if there's a backport, then using the source package from sid to build it.. and if everything fails, use another source.. |
| 15:26.29 | wols_ | gkkk: why did you install an old insecure kernel? |
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| 15:26.33 | beardy | !simple sid backport |
| 15:26.34 | dpkg | First: See if the package has already been backported. Ask me about <backports>. If it hasn't, 1) Add a "deb-src ..." line ONLY for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get install build-essential; apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. If you are just wanting to change the compilation options, ask me about <package recompile>, or see <uupdate> if sid is too old |
| 15:26.41 | gkkk | wols_, i had 2.4 kernel |
| 15:26.47 | Roy911 | 'Kay. |
| 15:26.48 | gkkk | i had only sarge netinstall |
| 15:26.57 | wols_ | gkkk: that's no answer. and yes hdX changed to sdX |
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| 15:27.16 | wols_ | !tell gkkk about sarge->etch |
| 15:27.36 | gkkk | but now it says Check root= bootarg cat /proc/cmdline or missing modules, devices cat /proc/modules ls /dev. |
| 15:27.38 | Shai | My cron error http://pastebin.com/d23d2aa8 |
| 15:27.40 | beardy | Roy911: But if you really want to use the upstream source.. are you sure that you have the necessary versions of the dev packages it needs? |
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| 15:27.55 | gkkk | ALERT /dev/hdc1 does not exist. Dropping to a shell! |
| 15:28.01 | wols_ | gkkk: what are your kernel parameters? |
| 15:28.08 | wols_ | gkkk: fix them. and your fstab too |
| 15:28.19 | gkkk | ofc |
| 15:28.22 | gkkk | thanks :D |
| 15:28.43 | Roy911 | Well, no, which is one of the reasons why I'm asking here. I have libtwolame0 and the -dev version installed though, beardy. |
| 15:28.54 | Shai | my script http://pastebin.com/m42736cc9 |
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| 15:29.37 | Warp4 | good morning all |
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| 15:29.52 | Warp4 | thanks yo all that helped me getting my samba issues resolved |
| 15:29.58 | Shai | My crontab http://pastebin.com/d1a4e36bb |
| 15:30.10 | Warp4 | now i just have one more.... mysql authentication in samba |
| 15:30.13 | stew | Shai: you said this works when you run it? |
| 15:30.18 | Shai | yes |
| 15:30.27 | stew | Shai: how do you run it when it works? |
| 15:30.37 | Shai | ./<script> |
| 15:30.42 | beardy | stew: Hmm.. don't you get the errors mailed to the user whose crontab runs it? |
| 15:30.59 | stew | beardy: no, i wouldn't |
| 15:31.05 | Roy911 | One of IDJC's recommended packages was lame, and since apt-get install lame resulted in no installation candidate, I did apt-cache search and found libtwolame0/-dev, which looked like what I was after. |
| 15:31.26 | Shai | It's emailing me the errors. It's a personal system. |
| 15:31.32 | beardy | stew: Sorry, that was obviously for Shai.. |
| 15:31.35 | stew | beardy: :) |
| 15:31.41 | beardy | stew: :) |
| 15:31.41 | Shai | I just want to grab that picture every hour. |
| 15:32.00 | beardy | Shai: You have to give the absolute path to the image when moving it. |
| 15:32.10 | Shai | I live in florida. Would be nice to have a long slideshow of the hurricanes as they come in. |
| 15:32.20 | Trewas | Roy911: twolame is some lame mp2 encoder/decoder, and has nothing to do with lame, the mp3 encoder, which is not in debian for patent reasons |
| 15:32.23 | stew | Roy911: mp3 encoders are not in debian becuase of patent problems, libtwolame0 is for mpeg2 not mp3 |
| 15:32.28 | Shai | beardy so you think that's the problem eh? |
| 15:32.39 | beardy | Shai: So, specify the exact path and filename for wget too, so you know where it lands. |
| 15:32.45 | beardy | Shai: Possibly. |
| 15:32.51 | Shai | ok |
| 15:32.59 | Shai | Let me get back to you when I'm done. |
| 15:33.07 | beardy | Shai: Show us the mailed output, and we'd see? |
| 15:33.10 | Roy911 | Trewas/Stew: How would I get the mp3 encoder for debian? |
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| 15:33.20 | Shai | My cron error http://pastebin.com/d23d2aa8 |
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| 15:34.05 | Trewas | Roy911: debian-multimedia.org should help |
| 15:34.13 | Roy911 | Ah, thanks. |
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| 15:35.51 | beardy | Shai: Hmm.. but that looks like you've put it in /etc/cron.hourly .. not in your normal users crontab? |
| 15:36.02 | Shai | Yes |
| 15:36.09 | stew | Shai: can you show me the output of "head -2 /etc/cron.hourly/imagefetch_goes_gulfatlantic_ir | hexdump -C" |
| 15:36.10 | beardy | Shai: You should not do that. |
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| 15:36.37 | allos_nerelin | help meee http://pastebin.com/d4b16d01d |
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| 15:37.16 | Shai | hold on let me figure out how to get wget to save to a specific path first then I'll do the hexdump |
| 15:37.33 | stew | Shai: -Ofilename |
| 15:37.39 | beardy | Shai: Well, I wouldn't, and don't recommend it anyway.. if you run it in your users crontab, you'd get the error output of the program that fails, mailed. |
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| 15:38.05 | Shai | where is the user's crontab? |
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| 15:38.53 | beardy | Shai: You don't need to know where it is stored, because, you edit it with 'crontab -e' run as the user. 'man 1 crontab' and 'man 5 crontab' |
| 15:39.27 | allos_nerelin | someone help me? |
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| 15:40.09 | beardy | Shai: (and I don't recall where it is stored out of my head, but, you don't edit it by hand, but either run crontab -e, or write it, and use 'crontab mycrontab.txt' to install it. |
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| 15:40.51 | Shai | You guys are killing me.....I'll be back in an hour when I'm done reading :) |
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| 15:41.20 | Shai | 1.5 HOURS......lunchtime. |
| 15:41.32 | allos_nerelin | ->>> http://pastebin.com/d4b16d01d |
| 15:41.38 | beardy | Shai: Good luck :) But check the manuals. And.. http://beardy.infidyne.com/files/mycrontab.txt there you go too. |
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| 15:43.01 | beardy | coffees. |
| 15:44.29 | allos | =\ |
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| 15:48.52 | gkkk | i still can't boot up |
| 15:49.02 | gkkk | still says can't find /dev/hdc1 |
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| 15:49.07 | wols_ | gkkk: I told you that it's not all you need to change... |
| 15:49.43 | thms | Should I use apt-get or aptitude ? |
| 15:49.44 | allos | ->>> http://pastebin.com/d4b16d01d |
| 15:49.53 | wols_ | !tell thms about why aptitude |
| 15:50.34 | ewet | not any idea? isn't there anything like hwinfo --framebuffer showing me all possible xorg resolutions (modelines) for my card and monitor? |
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| 15:50.46 | losinggeneration | is there a way to keep startup services disabled after upgrades/dist-upgrades? |
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| 15:51.04 | thms | okay, thanks wols_ |
| 15:51.30 | stew | losinggeneration: how did you disable them? |
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| 15:51.43 | losinggeneration | update-rc.d -f program remove |
| 15:52.02 | stew | losinggeneration: instead of removing the startup link, change it from an S to a K. |
| 15:52.12 | losinggeneration | ok |
| 15:52.15 | wols_ | ewet: there is your Xorg.0.log |
| 15:52.46 | stew | losinggeneration: it is the second example for disabling in the update-rc.d manpage |
| 15:53.17 | stew | losinggeneration: when you upgrade a package, if there are no startup links it will create them, if they already exist, they won't be recreated, so setting them to K will make them exist, but not make the service start |
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| 15:54.52 | losinggeneration | thanks stew |
| 15:55.58 | kiwizz | anybody know why I might be getting "verify error:num=20:unable to get local issuer certificate" with an TLS/SSL connection for IMAPS? |
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| 15:56.43 | thms | How can I do to bind ALT+F2 with having the box to enter what package I want to start ? I'm under fluxbox |
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| 16:01.13 | hulatang | how can i change dns and gateway setting in debian? |
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| 16:03.28 | ewet | wols_: reading... oh wait didn't current displays have any protocol to give information about their modes themselves? I know about d-r and how to manually edit xorg.conf but I have a dell tft with really bad documentation about it :/ so I'm pretty much lost here because of _that_. xorg logs don't tell me useful stuff either. |
| 16:04.12 | wols_ | ewet: that's not what you asked |
| 16:04.50 | stew | ewet: EDID is how a monitor would report its possible reslutions. the results of EDID would be in your /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 16:05.23 | stew | kiwizz: i'd guess that you are using a chained certificate and are only sending the cert and not the signer's cert |
| 16:05.25 | wols_ | lenny or sid also have a read-edid command IIRC |
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| 16:05.33 | ewet | is reading again |
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| 16:06.09 | beardy | hulatang: DNS in /etc/resolv.conf default gateway in /etc/network/interfaces if you're not using DHCP, then you'll get it through that. |
| 16:06.15 | beardy | !resolv.conf |
| 16:06.15 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, resolv.conf is /etc/resolv.conf, resolver configuration file that contains your nameserver IPs. It's written by DHCP client. To use different nameservers than those provided by DHCP, use eg. "supersede domain-name-servers 127.0.0.1;" in /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf. You can also "prepend" or "append" instead of "supersede". |
| 16:06.19 | beardy | !interfaces |
| 16:06.19 | dpkg | Your network configuration is in the file /etc/network/interfaces ; "man 5 interfaces" for docs, (zless /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz for an example). Start and stop your networking with ifup -a and ifdown -a respectively. See also <dhcp client>, read "man resolv.conf" for DNS. Also ask me about <static route>. |
| 16:06.39 | kiwizz | im running cyrus, and I can connect with no errors if I use this " openssl s_client -CAfile /etc/ssl/certs/ca.crt -connect localhost:993" |
| 16:07.12 | kiwizz | but the CAfile is specified in imapd.conf so this should already be the default right? |
| 16:07.48 | stew | kiwizz: i don't know about cyrus. you should ask in #cyrus if you haven't already |
| 16:08.25 | kiwizz | I think its more to do with ssl. There isnt many people around in the cyrus room :) |
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| 16:10.27 | roxazer | Xttor: :) |
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| 16:13.02 | allos | http://pastebin.com/d79ad157f help! |
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| 16:14.01 | ewet | reading http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_display_identification_data I have to ask: isn't EDID data always mesed up on widescreen tft then? is it worth all the hassle? *sigh* seems there is no easy way to use non-native resolutuions on my display then :'( |
| 16:14.25 | stew | ewet: it works well on my widescreen tft |
| 16:14.46 | zinx | ewet: it's only messed up on cheaper tfts and HDTVs in my experience |
| 16:14.56 | ewet | okay |
| 16:15.09 | Dantix | hi again, I have a problem with a XEN domu, it have 2 eth connected to the 2 xenbr, eth0 works fine so I can access the outside world, but I use eth1 to intercommunicate domus and cannot ping any dom at all, what could be wrong? |
| 16:15.19 | zinx | ewet: you can tell most drivers to ignore that information, and pass them the proper sync ranges and modelines.. you need to generate CVT modelines most likely, though, not GTF |
| 16:15.43 | zinx | ewet: if you need modelines, that is.. you may not, as X has a lot built in |
| 16:16.05 | beardy | allos: What version of Debian? Why on earth -y? |
| 16:16.25 | beardy | !tell allos -about aptitude |
| 16:16.55 | allos | =x |
| 16:17.05 | allos | http://pastebin.com/d79ad157f |
| 16:17.07 | allos | =\ |
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| 16:17.42 | ewet | zinx: CVT - I see! well if xorg had my modelines built in it would possibly show 960x600 correctly but it actually shows only the half of the screen (horizontally - streched over the whole screen) |
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| 16:17.57 | alberto | hi |
| 16:18.03 | stew | ewet: show us /var/log/Xorg.0.log ; use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 16:18.07 | zinx | ewet: sounds like clock problems or doublescan problems |
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| 16:18.28 | zinx | ewet: well, horizontal.. probably not doublescan :x |
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| 16:18.47 | ewet | okay pasting xorg log |
| 16:18.53 | alberto | I am using debianlenny in a Macbook, and xorg restart sometimes, without any known reason for me, and after, display seems blank and I need to restart system, any help. Please |
| 16:19.21 | zinx | ewet: 960x600 sounds like cheap indeed.. the lesser manufactuerers tend to have very broken EDID info for whatever reason, i guess they don't care : |
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| 16:20.00 | ewet | zinx: lol no 960<600 isfor doom3 only |
| 16:20.09 | wols_ | ewet: it's not always messed up on widescreen |
| 16:20.18 | ewet | it is a 1440<900 dell wide tft |
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| 16:20.39 | wols_ | ewet: I tried it on a samsung 1440x900 and it worked just as intended |
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| 16:21.29 | ewet | here's it http://sprunge.us/ePEc? |
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| 16:22.51 | noboru | may i ask a hardware question ? |
| 16:23.05 | noboru | hi wols_ ,how are you ? |
| 16:23.07 | linux_jones5 | does anyone have a recomendation for a fast alternative to gdm? |
| 16:23.14 | zinx | ewet: hmm, dell should do it, make a 960x600 60Hz CVT modeline, or i can possibly |
| 16:23.19 | wols_ | ewet: (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "1440x900" |
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| 16:23.28 | newsense | zinx: xdm |
| 16:23.38 | wols_ | linux_jones5: xdm, wdm |
| 16:23.42 | newsense | err linux_jones5 |
| 16:23.45 | noboru | The moderan sata2 hdd compare with the troditional scsi hdd, no big difference in a talking of 'life time' ? |
| 16:23.55 | wols_ | noboru: ##hardware |
| 16:24.11 | linux_jones5 | will those run xfce fairly well? |
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| 16:24.25 | zinx | ewet: oh, it seems debian's xserver-xorg-core comes with a cvt modeline generator called 'cvt': cvt 960 600 60 |
| 16:24.31 | newsense | linkslice: yes |
| 16:24.38 | newsense | dam nick completion |
| 16:24.50 | linux_jones5 | newsense haha |
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| 16:25.03 | newsense | linux_jones5: i have xfce and xdm on a 500mhz and its nice |
| 16:25.22 | num000 | how can i find out which dovecot version is the latest available in the repository= |
| 16:25.39 | stew | num000: /msg dpkg pdo |
| 16:25.49 | linux_jones5 | so i plan on doing the net install, and just the base system, then would i just apt-get xdm and xfce and that much will be up and running? |
| 16:25.52 | ciphergoth | what's the right tool to use for building a personal backports repository? I've been looking at pbuilder, but I don't think that's realy what pbuilder is for |
| 16:26.31 | newsense | linux_jones5: yeah |
| 16:26.39 | num000 | stew: this only gives a brief summry of the package, no version information. i 've 1.0.rc15 and i have some trouble and wanted to see if there is a new one |
| 16:27.01 | stew | num000: what only gives you a brief summery? |
| 16:27.04 | newsense | linux_jones5: have to install alsa-base too if ya need it |
| 16:27.04 | ewet | zinx: it is said (ask aunt google) that my display works best at 1440 900 _50_ should I go for 960 600 _50_ instead then? |
| 16:27.15 | num000 | stew the command you showd me /msg /dpkg pdo |
| 16:27.21 | zinx | ewet: yeah, that'll do |
| 16:27.25 | num000 | stew the command you showd me /msg dpkg pdo |
| 16:27.31 | stew | !pdo |
| 16:27.32 | dpkg | http://packages.debian.org/ - here you can search for debian packages and their contents. Pretty Damned Obvious, isn't it?, or http://people.debian.org/, in some contexts. Maybe even http://planet.debian.org/ |
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| 16:28.02 | zinx | ewet: refresh doesn't matter too much with LCDs as long as it's in their range (usually somewhere between 50 and 75) |
| 16:28.13 | stew | num000: ^^^ http://packages.debian.org/dovecot |
| 16:28.20 | zinx | ewet: since they don't flicker like CRTs :D |
| 16:28.32 | ewet | zinx: that's what one would think ;-) |
| 16:29.01 | ewet | but after all this experiece I question even that |
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| 16:29.28 | defrysk | linux_jones5, http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=167148&sid=a30839b29fc6c6da8d4e22e0b68fc44d |
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| 16:30.29 | alberto | I am using debianlenny in a Macbook, and xorg restart sometimes, without any known reason for me, and after, display seems blank and I need to restart system, any help. Please |
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| 16:30.55 | ewet | okay thank you zinx. I got to restart (better use irssi from now on...) |
| 16:30.58 | num000 | i've backports on my sources.list but unfortunately it doesnt show me a newer version of the package dovecot i need. what am i doing wrong? |
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| 16:31.22 | peppe | alberto: faulty graphics hardware/ bugged drivers? see the logs in /var/log/Xorg*log |
| 16:31.22 | stew | num000: show us the output of "apt-cache policy dovecot" ; use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 16:31.25 | defrysk | apt-get install -t backports <foo.deb> |
| 16:31.54 | stew | defrysk: read the instructions page at backports.org |
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| 16:32.08 | defrysk | stew , I will |
| 16:32.11 | num000 | stew: the output is very simple it just says it is empty not installed |
| 16:32.12 | num000 | dovecot: Installed: (none) Candidate: (none) Version table: |
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| 16:32.27 | stew | num000: show us the output of "apt-cache policy" ; use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 16:33.13 | num000 | http://pastebin.com/d3c4a985e |
| 16:33.21 | num000 | this is my apt-cache hpolicy output |
| 16:34.20 | defrysk | its probably dovecot-common |
| 16:34.29 | stew | num000: have you run 'aptitude update' or 'apt-get update'? |
| 16:34.37 | num000 | stew: yes i did |
| 16:34.40 | stew | no, dovecot should return results |
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| 16:35.11 | defrysk | gets no results either |
| 16:35.20 | num000 | dovecot-common did return this http://pastebin.com/d3732663e |
| 16:35.31 | stew | !info dovecot etch |
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| 16:35.58 | knusper | hi |
| 16:36.16 | knusper | i have a question regarding nvidia graphic card drivers in lenny |
| 16:36.16 | stew | oh, right, it doesn't exist anymore |
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| 16:36.27 | kevin05 | how i can make proftpd conectable server to server for files transfer * ftp to ftp * |
| 16:36.31 | num000 | stew: what do you mean by it doesnt exist anymore? |
| 16:36.36 | stew | num000: you want dovecot-imapd and/or dovecot-pop3d |
| 16:36.41 | num000 | imapd |
| 16:36.44 | stew | num000: the package named 'dovecot' |
| 16:36.47 | num000 | stew dovecot imapd |
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| 16:36.55 | kevin05 | like open 2 fxp connection and transfer files server to server |
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| 16:37.04 | stew | num000: "apt-cache policy dovecot-imapd" will show you the available versions |
| 16:37.26 | knusper | i have updated my system to the recent kernel.... but now the nvidia-installer will not work anymore |
| 16:38.10 | num000 | stew: thank you very much for your help. the versions showing the the version table, are these those which are available? what about the backport, are these also on the list? |
| 16:39.04 | knusper | ERROR: Unable to load the kernel module 'nvidia.ko' |
| 16:39.21 | allos | http://pastebin.com/d41121dc2 help! |
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| 16:39.22 | stew | num000: i would expect backport to be on that list, though you can see it, not me, put it in a pastebin if you want me to look at it |
| 16:40.05 | num000 | stew: http://pastebin.com/dde060b5 |
| 16:40.40 | num000 | the version showed with the backports.org link, is this a more newer one? |
| 16:41.48 | fantasticmrfox | Lo, I use Lenny, and I have a few NFS mounts in fstab (some off a NAS box, some off a debian etch server)... however after a short while they always seem to loose connection and the mounted directory ownership and attributes turn to question marks |
| 16:41.50 | fantasticmrfox | Anyone seen this problem before or have a solution? |
| 16:43.26 | num000 | since dovecot did release v1.1.2 meanwhile |
| 16:44.29 | stew | num000: http://packages.debian.org/dovecot |
| 16:45.02 | num000 | stew: i didint understand the link? could you have a look to the pastebin you asked for? |
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| 16:45.16 | stew | num000: i did |
| 16:45.40 | kora_ | heya all, i have the following problem with my ad-hoc connections. i have a embedded linux set up as a ad-hoc node (i can connect to it and ssh via windows, so the thing works) and from my linux box i cant. what im doing arre the following commands: 1) ifconfig wlan0 down 2) iwconfig wlan0 mode ad-hoc 3) ifconfig wlan0 up 4) iwconfig wlan0 essid GumNode01 channel 7; after this the LED on the gumnode flashes but a iwlist reveals that the cell |
| 16:45.40 | kora_ | is associated but link quality is still 0. so even if i give an ip i cant ping. |
| 16:46.04 | num000 | stew: what do i have to understand out of this? i did look of course to the link, but this shows me the same version as i have? |
| 16:46.34 | num000 | is it normal for debian that finding newer packages is that difficult? |
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| 16:48.20 | wols_ | num000: no |
| 16:48.36 | num000 | wols_: what is than the problem? is it my english? |
| 16:48.51 | stew | num000: the link shows you all of the available versions in debian. the output of "apt-cache policy" shows all of the available versions on your machine right now. what else are you trying to figure out? |
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| 16:49.51 | num000 | stew: these informations show that there is no newer package. but dovecot already released v1.1.2 i wonder if this is normal |
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| 16:52.54 | stew | num000: you must be misreading then. both "apt-cache policy dovecot-imapd" and http://packages.debian.org/dovecot-imapd show newer available versions |
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| 16:53.32 | num000 | stew: ohh, but then a simple aptitude install dovecot-imapd should install me the newer version |
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| 16:53.45 | stew | num000: no, read the instructions page at backports.org |
| 16:53.57 | cfchris6 | How can I calculate the fingerprint of an ssh key like ~/.ssh/id_dsa{,.pub} ? |
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| 16:54.43 | jester45 | ive changed all my etch to lennys in my sources.list but when i do aptitude distupgrade it wants to remove about 280 packages including a lot of gnome ones that sont seem to be upgraded or reinstalled. apt-get only removes 28. why does aptitude try to remove so many more |
| 16:55.06 | stew | cfchris6: ssh-keygen -l |
| 16:55.22 | wols_ | !etch->lenny |
| 16:55.30 | stew | jester45: probably because many are marked as automatically installed |
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| 16:55.55 | kevin05 | anyone here are expert in FTP settings? |
| 16:55.58 | jester45 | should i just use apt-get |
| 16:56.02 | hoxu | !anyone |
| 16:56.02 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls>, or <search> |
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| 16:57.12 | rahul | jester45: aptitude will remove packages that you only needed as dependencies for other packages |
| 16:57.22 | rahul | jester45: apt-get will leave them around, taking up space on your disk |
| 16:57.24 | kevin05 | how i can connect 2 server via FTP for file transfer |
| 16:57.28 | stew | jester45: no, you should mark packages you want to keep as being manually installed |
| 16:57.41 | cfchris6 | stew: thank you |
| 16:58.06 | wols_ | kevin05: what debian do you run? |
| 16:58.16 | kevin05 | 4.0 |
| 16:58.18 | wols_ | kevin05: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 16:58.19 | kevin05 | etch |
| 16:58.28 | wols_ | kevin05: why do you ask in #ubuntu then the same question? |
| 16:59.09 | kevin05 | cuz i need a aws |
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| 16:59.19 | stew | kevin05: run an ftp client on one and a ftp server on the other? |
| 16:59.36 | kevin05 | yes |
| 16:59.42 | wols_ | stew: naw. too easy to do! |
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| 16:59.53 | kevin05 | i need to transfer some files to other ftp |
| 17:00.06 | stew | kevin05: you are asking how to use an ftp client? |
| 17:00.28 | kevin05 | i had open 2 FXP connection but the transfer fails |
| 17:00.34 | kevin05 | nah |
| 17:00.37 | n3kl | I think he means copy from one ftp to another directly |
| 17:01.06 | kevin05 | how i can configure my proftpd in my server to accept that |
| 17:01.12 | kevin05 | yes |
| 17:01.31 | kevin05 | •n3kl• yes |
| 17:01.36 | kevin05 | thats what i need |
| 17:01.44 | n3kl | You don't |
| 17:01.48 | num000 | stew: makeing use of the repository http://wiki.dovecot.org/PrebuiltBinaries described as automatically build packages, is this dangerous and could it break the rest of the installation? |
| 17:01.53 | rahul | kevin05: use scp. it's easier. |
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| 17:02.12 | stew | num000: i have no idea, i've never looked at their packages |
| 17:02.24 | n3kl | if you have ssh access to the ftp server, then ssh in, and ftp or scp the files you need to the other ftp server. Other wise, you will need to ftp the files to you local machine and then up to the other ftp |
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| 17:02.55 | kevin05 | i dor have ssh axx |
| 17:03.00 | kevin05 | do* |
| 17:03.08 | n3kl | so use that |
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| 17:03.19 | n3kl | I don't understand where there is problem in all of this |
| 17:03.40 | kevin05 | ---> n00b |
| 17:03.44 | kevin05 | thats the prob |
| 17:03.50 | kevin05 | i dont know everything |
| 17:03.51 | n3kl | kevin05: read something |
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| 17:04.11 | kevin05 | i know i have to read but sometimes you have to ask too |
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| 17:04.39 | ttl- | hi everyone |
| 17:05.10 | ttl- | I'm trying to solve a problem with an ehternet bridge, br0 has 2 ports 1=ath0(madwifi) 2=eth1, when i'm trying to connect to a machine from port 1 to a machine on port 2 it does not work, as i'm not an expert in networking i don't find a solution... maybe somebody could help me a bit.. |
| 17:05.30 | thms | What's gnome notepad packagename ? |
| 17:05.41 | n3kl | ttl-: do you need to enable forwarding? |
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| 17:05.50 | n3kl | thms: gnotepad |
| 17:06.18 | num000 | when aptitude tells me that these packages depend on newer libc6 >= 2.7.1 should i go for it? |
| 17:06.32 | ttl- | n3Kl: i need to be able to connect from a machine on port 1 to a machine on port 2 |
| 17:07.12 | n3kl | ttl-: not sure you need a bridge for that, but maybe. It sounds to me like you need to play with forwarding and iptables a bit. But I could totally be wrong |
| 17:07.25 | n3kl | since you have setup a bridge anyway |
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| 17:07.51 | wols_ | ttl-: enable ip fowwarding. and why do you use a bridge? |
| 17:08.00 | n3kl | yeah |
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| 17:08.13 | n3kl | I am not sure the reason for a bridge in this situation |
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| 17:08.31 | ttl- | wols_: because its a router |
| 17:08.39 | wols_ | ttl-: that's no reason |
| 17:08.44 | ttl- | wols_: it share an inet connection |
| 17:08.55 | ttl- | shares* |
| 17:09.03 | wols_ | ttl-: doubly no reason. remove the bridging, install ipmasq |
| 17:09.03 | n3kl | ttl-: bridges and routers function differently. You should be able to accomplish this without the use of a bridge at all |
| 17:09.16 | wols_ | ttl-: then it will work |
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| 17:10.14 | wols_ | ttl-: note that each NIC should be in a different subnet |
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| 17:11.17 | ttl- | wols_: the machine has 3 NICs one is connected to the internet the other 2 are local one wired and one wireless |
| 17:11.48 | Jabka | what could make lsusb be diffrent in root and normal user ? |
| 17:11.50 | wols_ | ttl-: still no reason the bridge. |
| 17:12.02 | wols_ | put all 3 NICs in different subnets and it will work simply by using ipmasq |
| 17:12.53 | n3kl | Jabka: group membership? |
| 17:13.13 | noboru | usually , what type of log has the biggest size in a normal web server ? the apache's ? |
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| 17:13.40 | n3kl | noboru: access |
| 17:13.53 | n3kl | noboru: I sure hope that your error log does not exceed your access log |
| 17:13.53 | Jabka | lsusb care about group membership ? (the issue is that only one device is missing ) |
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| 17:14.04 | ttl- | wols_: lets say that i put the wired NIC on 192.168.1.0/24 and the wireless on 192.168.2.0/24 and internet acces will work for both wired and wireless part of the network ? |
| 17:14.17 | wols_ | ttl-: yes |
| 17:14.19 | n3kl | Jabka: I would think that you might need something like plugdev group membership before you were able to see what devices were plugged into usb |
| 17:14.38 | noboru | n3kl, in /var/log/httpd,i have access_log, access_log.1 access_log.2 ...many. |
| 17:14.42 | wols_ | ttl-: and the two subnets will be able to access each other too. your linux acts as a switch for them as well |
| 17:14.44 | n3kl | wols_: does ipmasq just do the iptables rules for you? |
| 17:14.55 | Jabka | n3kl , thanks |
| 17:14.57 | wols_ | n3kl: it also enables ip forwarding |
| 17:14.58 | n3kl | noboru: the .1 and .2 are old rotated logs |
| 17:15.04 | n3kl | wols_: ahh |
| 17:15.08 | n3kl | I prefer to do it manually |
| 17:15.19 | wols_ | n3kl: you shouldn't. doesn't gain you anything |
| 17:15.20 | n3kl | but that is helpful to know about anyway |
| 17:15.29 | ttl- | wols_: so the gateway for the wired part could be 192.168.1.1 and for the wireless part 192.168.2.1 |
| 17:15.33 | noboru | n3kl, so in /var/log/httpd, i do ls -l,says total 239176 |
| 17:15.40 | noboru | that is in kb ? |
| 17:15.41 | n3kl | wols_: but I don't loose anything either |
| 17:15.53 | n3kl | noboru: do ls -lh file instead |
| 17:15.56 | wols_ | ttl-: yes. also run dnsmasq. gives you a proxy dns server and a dhcp server |
| 17:16.09 | wols_ | n3kl: lots of convenience. and often security |
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| 17:16.41 | noboru | total 234M ,well,so they are not very big :) |
| 17:16.42 | n3kl | maybe |
| 17:16.50 | noboru | n3kl, Thank you . |
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| 17:18.36 | ttl- | wols: ok thanks man! going to try it that way then :) |
| 17:18.46 | noboru | debian is very cool . |
| 17:19.44 | elik | Why would reiser fail so miserably after a power outage? I mean... I restarted and for some reason, my / was not ok after fschk and could not be written... and after restard, I get tons of replays (why not on first boot), and the message that the fs is NOT ok... |
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| 17:20.31 | n3kl | wols_: how does ipmask determin which noc does wht? |
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| 17:21.44 | n3kl | wols_: nvm, I am looking through the script |
| 17:22.12 | wols_ | n3kl: via debconf |
| 17:23.32 | thms | !flashplayer |
| 17:23.32 | dpkg | flash is, like, frequently used to deliver interactivity, audio and video through a web browser. Ask me about <gnash> or <swfdec> for free implementations or <adobe flash> for a non-free implementation. Also see http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer |
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| 17:25.32 | ttl- | wols_: i configured a dhcp3-server should i remove it and install dnsmasq ? |
| 17:25.53 | wols_ | ttl-: no need. dnsmasq by default only does DNS caching. |
| 17:26.00 | wols_ | ttl-: you can use either of them for dhcp |
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| 17:27.33 | MajorP47 | hello |
| 17:27.53 | MajorP47 | can someone please give me a half correct answer :). how much deb's are now in the repo? |
| 17:28.07 | MajorP47 | can't find any hint for that simple question on the pages |
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| 17:28.12 | jelly-home | !test |
| 17:28.17 | dondelelcaro | !debstats |
| 17:28.18 | hoxu | MajorP47, apt-cache stats |
| 17:28.20 | ttl- | wols_: i'm connected to the machine over ssh shell, have to be careful i don't fall into the snake pit |
| 17:28.36 | ttl- | :) |
| 17:28.44 | MajorP47 | hoxu, can u please do it for me, iam no under windows :>, shame on me! |
| 17:29.07 | MajorP47 | please dont kick for that :D |
| 17:29.10 | hoxu | MajorP47, it's in the 20-30k range depending on your debian version and sources I think |
| 17:29.34 | MajorP47 | yes okey, i want to know the state of the stable's |
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| 17:29.43 | dondelelcaro | MajorP47: the reason why we don't have it on pages is because it changes all the time |
| 17:29.53 | Tapout | is there a way to go from ext3->xfs .. boot to single, mkfs.xfs+something else able to transform ext3=xfs, and then come back into multi, ? |
| 17:29.53 | ttl- | wols_: normally i don't have to change anything on the external NIC only the 2 Local ones |
| 17:30.38 | n3kl | Tapout: not without the use of temporary storage that I know of |
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| 17:31.10 | MajorP47 | dondelelcaro, yes that's clear and i hope it will be in future, but it would be a nice feature, don't think so? |
| 17:31.15 | ttl- | wols_: under normal circumstances installing ipmasq would not get me disconnected and not able to connect again ? |
| 17:31.43 | MajorP47 | just a update every week, isnt it enough to to or? |
| 17:31.57 | n3kl | ttl-: possibly |
| 17:32.04 | ttl- | wols_: i'm conected over the internet on the external NIC eth0 |
| 17:32.21 | MajorP47 | rhel has more, right? |
| 17:32.30 | ttl- | wols_: the 2 local ones are eth1 and ath0 |
| 17:32.41 | wols_ | ttl-: what would you change on the external nIC? I don#t get your problem |
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| 17:35.35 | MajorP47 | ok thanks, ill be back, be sure ;)... |
| 17:35.36 | MajorP47 | cya |
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| 17:36.10 | ttl- | wols_: nothing |
| 17:36.19 | ttl- | wols_: just removed the bridge |
| 17:36.22 | wols_ | navyy: debian has the biggest repo |
| 17:36.34 | wols_ | erm, MajorP47 ^^ |
| 17:36.42 | ttl- | wols_: going to install ipmasq |
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| 17:42.04 | screamingbytes | anyone use live-xfce? |
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| 17:42.46 | screamingbytes | I can't get the resolution above 1024, the website's solutions are to use lh_config or live-helper. I have read more and live-helper doesn't seem to exist |
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| 17:44.07 | alcohol | how can I installed a package from testing rather than stable? |
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| 17:44.26 | hoxu | !upgrade path |
| 17:44.26 | dpkg | i guess upgrade path is install <stable> first, then use <backports.org> if you need newer software, then maybe <simple sid backport>, upgrade to <testing>, use <pinning>, and when you want to abandon all hope, go for <unstable> |
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| 17:44.51 | screamingbytes | alcohol: I wouldn't suggest it, unless it doesn't have hardly any dependencies |
| 17:44.56 | alcohol | http://packages.debian.org/lenny/python-numpy |
| 17:44.58 | alcohol | I need that |
| 17:44.59 | alcohol | x: |
| 17:45.10 | hoxu | alcohol, read the factoid |
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| 17:45.19 | hahah | how to make my account under root account have permission to install pakacge? |
| 17:45.22 | hoxu | alcohol, then /msg dpkg bpo & /msg dpkg ssb |
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| 17:46.00 | hoxu | !tell hahah about sudo |
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| 17:46.52 | hahah | i dun understand |
| 17:46.56 | hahah | how can i install sudo? |
| 17:47.12 | alcohol | no numpy on backports ): |
| 17:47.16 | screamingbytes | alcohol: my point is a while back i was using the previous stable, and wanted a package from etch when it was testing, I installed the package, it had some 40-50 dependencies and more, thoat hosed my comp |
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| 17:47.27 | aaraujo | hi i am trying to build a debian package of alibrary that depens on a library compiled from its sources, i get the following error: |
| 17:47.29 | screamingbytes | alcohol: i would suggest upgrading to testing. |
| 17:47.30 | aaraujo | dpkg-shlibdeps: failure: couldn't find library libdb_cxx-4.6.so needed by debian/libsafet/usr/lib/libsafet.so.0.1.0 (its RPATH is ''). |
| 17:47.48 | alcohol | screamingbytes: the entire machine? |
| 17:47.53 | screamingbytes | hahah: sudo is already on your machine, read about it on the web, or man sudo |
| 17:47.57 | screamingbytes | alchol: yes |
| 17:48.05 | dustybin | what is the difference between a micro-kernel and a monolithic-kernel? |
| 17:48.06 | n3kl | aaraujo: tried apt-get build-dep <package>? |
| 17:48.13 | hahah | ok |
| 17:48.14 | screamingbytes | alcohol: yes, upgrade your box to testing then get the app. |
| 17:48.15 | hahah | thanks |
| 17:48.27 | alcohol | it's lame though. I need numpy for python 2.5 -- I have python2.5 installed, it's stable. but numpy for python 2.5 is not ): |
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| 17:48.34 | hoxu | !installit |
| 17:48.34 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! *** Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. If someone suggests an application to you, it's highly likely that it's available via apt-get or aptitude. |
| 17:48.38 | hoxu | alcohol, did you check backports? |
| 17:48.47 | alcohol | hoxu: yes, nothing that matches numpy |
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| 17:48.57 | screamingbytes | I know, because numpy wasn't considered stable (i.e. tested) when etch became stable. |
| 17:49.03 | screamingbytes | and its still not stable |
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| 17:49.19 | screamingbytes | the reason its in testing |
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| 17:49.32 | alcohol | I cannot just -only- install numpy and its dependencies for 2.5? |
| 17:49.39 | alcohol | I have to upgrade the whole machine? |
| 17:49.58 | hoxu | alcohol, the dependencies usually force you to do that, unless they are trivial |
| 17:50.01 | screamingbytes | alcohol: you can. but its an extremely risky thing to do |
| 17:50.17 | hoxu | !info libc6 etch |
| 17:50.40 | dpkg | libc6: (GNU C Library: Shared libraries), section libs, is required. Version: 2.3.6.ds1-13etch7 (etch), Packaged size: 4590 kB, Installed size: 10808 kB |
| 17:51.02 | screamingbytes | alcohol: numpy will have dependencies that work in testing, not stable. When you install numpy, it will drag a bunch of files and overwite them on your stable machine because numpy needs them. It could likely HOSE your stable machine |
| 17:51.09 | screamingbytes | alcohol: understand? |
| 17:51.26 | alcohol | yes |
| 17:51.30 | alcohol | I think the admin wont be happy |
| 17:51.40 | alcohol | but this sucks. I need it for our project. |
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| 17:51.42 | Malf | alcohol: And maintaining a system with a mix of release dependencies is not fun as I can currently attest to. Generally it has worked for me but it definitely means pulling over a lot of stuff |
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| 17:51.47 | screamingbytes | alcohol: so no you can not just install that 1 file, it won't work. It has dependencies. |
| 17:52.07 | screamingbytes | alcohol: if you need it, then upgrade the box to testing version, then install numpy |
| 17:52.12 | alcohol | can you go make a backport for me quickly? ;P |
| 17:52.20 | kevin05 | n3kl : i found this l scp -r 2server:/home/files/mydir/ 1server:MYDIR l |
| 17:52.24 | hoxu | !tell alcohol about ssb |
| 17:52.34 | hoxu | alcohol, not that simple though -_- |
| 17:52.57 | screamingbytes | alcohol: or you can try using a live cd, and use a usb stick for space, and install numpy |
| 17:53.07 | n3kl | kevin05: yeah, what about it |
| 17:53.13 | pickcoder | alcohol: if you _have_ to have something you can install it from source under /usr/local/src.. just be weary of implied depends and versions. Check them all before you do anything. |
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| 17:53.30 | screamingbytes | I would suggest talking to your admin, and see what he thinks, and not attempt anything on your own if your not the admin |
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| 17:53.59 | kevin05 | ssh : using scp to transfer files to one server to another directly |
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| 17:54.35 | pickcoder | <- has to run the latest HylaFax+ software which isn't in the repo |
| 17:54.55 | alcohol | pickcoder: I'll have a look at that |
| 17:55.01 | n3kl | kevin05: yeah, welcome to 2008 |
| 17:55.11 | kevin05 | lolz |
| 17:55.47 | hahah | i have already installed gcc in my debian |
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| 17:55.53 | hahah | why i couldnt compile ? |
| 17:56.07 | n3kl | hahah: apt-get install build-essential |
| 17:56.14 | snowrichard | debian comes with gcc already installed |
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| 17:56.36 | hahah | what is build-essential? |
| 17:56.36 | snowrichard | at least if you pick development with tasksel |
| 17:56.37 | keith4 | snowrichard: not necessarily |
| 17:56.46 | pickcoder | the base install doesn't |
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| 17:56.59 | pickcoder | you still need the libc6 dev packages |
| 17:57.08 | pickcoder | make/autoconf/etc |
| 17:57.14 | ZitZ | does anyone know if dma is possible on sata drives? |
| 17:57.15 | n3kl | hahah: everything you need to build packages |
| 17:57.29 | peppe | ZitZ: of course! |
| 17:57.43 | snowrichard | sorry I chose development |
| 17:57.48 | keith4 | ZitZ: what is your actual question? |
| 17:57.49 | hahah | alright it working thanks :) |
| 17:57.51 | ZitZ | oh, okay, then I guess my next question is why can't I set it on my hard drives? |
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| 17:58.22 | ZitZ | i get an error message that says: HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device |
| 17:58.57 | cahoot | sata? |
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| 17:59.10 | snowrichard | I am running etch on an alpha with the smp kernel and I get messages on the log about "can't allocate 8 bytes percpu data" with several of the daemons. Is that a problem? |
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| 17:59.33 | alcohol | wow |
| 17:59.38 | peppe | ZitZ: kernel? controller? dmesg output? hdparm -i /dev/device? |
| 18:00.00 | alcohol | numpy 1.0.1 is from 2006, they're at 1.1.1 right now. how can something that has been out for over 2 years still not be stable? :< |
| 18:00.24 | pickcoder | alcohol: no development? |
| 18:00.28 | pickcoder | I.E. stale |
| 18:00.55 | alcohol | they have new versions throughout 2007 and 2008 (latest is from 2008-08-01) |
| 18:01.40 | pickcoder | alcohol: maybe the maintainer hasn't put a new release in? |
| 18:01.47 | stew | alcohol: right. the current debian stable was frozen in 2006 |
| 18:01.49 | pickcoder | !info numpy unstable |
| 18:01.54 | alcohol | I see |
| 18:02.05 | keith4 | no new packages go into stable |
| 18:02.10 | keith4 | just security updates |
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| 18:02.35 | pickcoder | !info python-numpy unstable |
| 18:02.39 | dpkg | python-numpy: (Numerical Python adds a fast array facility to the Python language), section python, is optional. Version: 1:1.1.0-3 (sid), Packaged size: 1684 kB, Installed size: 6424 kB |
| 18:02.40 | ZitZ | peppe: I put the output of all those commands into a pastebin. http://pastebin.com/m23acb66a |
| 18:02.45 | pickcoder | !info python-numpy testing |
| 18:02.53 | cyberix | Is the Utnubu team reachable on the irc somewhere? |
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| 18:03.04 | pickcoder | #ubuntu maybe |
| 18:03.10 | pickcoder | regardless it's not #debian |
| 18:03.16 | stew | pickcoder: it is debian |
| 18:03.17 | pickcoder | ask #freenode |
| 18:03.24 | dpkg | python-numpy: (Numerical Python adds a fast array facility to the Python language), section python, is optional. Version: 1:1.1.0-3 (lenny), Packaged size: 1684 kB, Installed size: 6424 kB |
| 18:03.25 | n3kl | ZitZ: looks like you already have udma set |
| 18:03.29 | pickcoder | stew: huh? |
| 18:03.52 | hahah | how to delete file on debian? |
| 18:03.53 | stew | pickcoder: utnubu is a debian project |
| 18:03.59 | pickcoder | oh |
| 18:03.59 | stew | hahah: with rm |
| 18:04.01 | pickcoder | I misread |
| 18:04.02 | pickcoder | sory |
| 18:04.06 | hoxu | stew, a troll? |
| 18:04.08 | hahah | with rm? |
| 18:04.11 | hahah | rm = remove? |
| 18:04.14 | stew | hoxu: what? |
| 18:04.23 | stew | hoxu: "man rm" |
| 18:04.24 | pickcoder | hahah: learn your basics man |
| 18:04.27 | stew | hahah: "man rm" |
| 18:04.38 | pickcoder | there's only a thousand intro to Linux sites |
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| 18:04.45 | snowrichard | yeah don't do rm -rf / as root lol |
| 18:04.53 | ZitZ | n3kl: Ha, now that I look at the output of hdparm -i, it looks like I do. It just didn't show up when I used hdparm without the -i |
| 18:04.54 | hoxu | stew, seems like a troll to me based on the earlier questions |
| 18:04.56 | stew | snowrichard: please don't joke about that |
| 18:05.26 | keith4 | snowrichard: zomglolz!!!11 |
| 18:05.29 | n3kl | ZitZ: Setting it manually on sata has never worked, but it always seems to auto detect it |
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| 18:05.35 | pickcoder | alcohol: are you sure that's not in bpo? |
| 18:05.36 | stew | hoxu: i didn't see any previous questions |
| 18:05.44 | alcohol | pickcoder: yea, I searched them |
| 18:06.13 | pickcoder | well a sid backport would probably be better than a source install |
| 18:06.29 | alcohol | oh |
| 18:06.30 | alcohol | too late |
| 18:06.35 | alcohol | is doing source install :< |
| 18:06.38 | pickcoder | if they're the same version |
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| 18:06.48 | hahah | why i couldnt copy file to my debian via winscp? |
| 18:06.58 | pickcoder | you can easily remove stuff using dpkg |
| 18:07.05 | pickcoder | versus hand removing all the files from a source install |
| 18:07.30 | hahah | it said i couldnt create remote file |
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| 18:07.43 | ZitZ | n3kl: thanks for the info, but do you know if I can set a higher dma mode, and if it would help speed? |
| 18:07.50 | n3kl | hahah: maybe you don't have permission |
| 18:08.02 | hahah | how to give a permission to that account? |
| 18:08.17 | n3kl | ZitZ: not really. I *guess* though, would be that it detects the highest it can use |
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| 18:08.57 | ttl- | wols_: after installing ipmasq my port forwarding rules do not work anymore |
| 18:08.57 | n3kl | hahah: dood, go read something, anything. Just read. Try googleing "linux permissions" and see what comes up |
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| 18:09.35 | n3kl | hahah: fyi, there is also a #linux for all basic linux related questions |
| 18:09.42 | ZitZ | n3k: Sounds reasonable, I think I"ll go get more ram, thanks for the help. |
| 18:09.42 | hoxu | !tell hahah about grounding |
| 18:09.50 | hahah | n3kl :( i need it hurry tat's why |
| 18:09.57 | stew | !hurry |
| 18:09.57 | dpkg | Ohhhhh.... Aaaarrrreeee yyyyoooouuuuuuuuu iiiinnnn a huuuuurrrrrrryyyyy? Welllllll... We do not cater to the ["me!me!me! : mine!mine!mine! : now!now!now!now!"] crowd .. so bugger off! Run home crying now ..and tell jo'momma that we spanked you! |
| 18:10.09 | stew | wow, that factoid changed |
| 18:10.23 | n3kl | stew: nice! |
| 18:10.23 | UKPbz___ | Hi Guys, any pptp guru's out there? I have just setup vpn on my network at home. I can vpn into the debian box but how do I get access to other devices on that LAN |
| 18:10.28 | hahah | slaps stew around a bit with a large trout |
| 18:10.49 | n3kl | UKPbz___: do you have a route set for the internal network? |
| 18:11.05 | UKPbz___ | on the pptp server box? |
| 18:11.15 | stew | hahah: http://wiki.debian.org/Permissions ; you'll want to read the manpages for chmod and chown |
| 18:11.53 | n3kl | UKPbz___: well, my guess is that you will need forwarding setup on teh vpn server, which I am assuming is the debian box that youa re refering to, and you will also need a route on you client to route traffic destined for the internal network |
| 18:12.23 | pickcoder | UKPbz___: if you're using openvpn the option is normally set to push a local route back to the client |
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| 18:12.29 | ttl- | "iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -i eth0 --dport 1982 -j DNAT --to 192.168.1.128:3389" and "iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp -i eth0 -d 192.168.1.128 --dport 3389 -j ACCEPT" for instance |
| 18:12.41 | UKPbz___ | I am using an iphone :-) |
| 18:12.53 | UKPbz___ | sorry |
| 18:13.18 | rahul | how would we know how to configure an iphone? |
| 18:13.19 | n3kl | UKPbz___: you are using an iphone as a vpn client? |
| 18:13.22 | pickcoder | you need a route on the client to forward local packets through the VPN |
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| 18:13.44 | n3kl | UKPbz___: in that case, you will want to "push" a route from you vpn server for the internal network |
| 18:13.47 | UKPbz___ | tyes N3kl. Its already built in |
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| 18:13.49 | UKPbz___ | connects fine |
| 18:14.46 | UKPbz___ | I would have thought, that when I connect I get a local IP address through VPN so no route would be needed |
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| 18:15.17 | hahah | chmod: changing permissions of `Unreal3.2.7': Operation not permitted |
| 18:15.18 | n3kl | UKPbz___: I don't know how you built the vpn server |
| 18:15.21 | alcohol | how can I chick what is listening on port 443? |
| 18:15.23 | alcohol | check* |
| 18:15.23 | hahah | wat else should i do? |
| 18:15.27 | furrywolf | so how stable is testing these days? I need to set up a box for someone not incredibly computer savvy, but they need newer versions of a lot of software than stable has... |
| 18:15.32 | UKPbz___ | vpn server was a doddle |
| 18:15.48 | stew | hahah: only the file owner or root can change the permissions of a file |
| 18:15.48 | UKPbz___ | apt-get install pptpd |
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| 18:15.53 | n3kl | alcohol: netstat -luntp? |
| 18:15.55 | UKPbz___ | edit the pptpd.conf |
| 18:16.08 | UKPbz___ | setup a login |
| 18:16.11 | UKPbz___ | and that was it |
| 18:16.12 | alcohol | ah |
| 18:16.15 | hahah | stew: example i am on root account how can see other file on other account? |
| 18:16.16 | alcohol | apache-ssl |
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| 18:16.18 | alcohol | evil |
| 18:16.28 | stew | hahah: what do you mean by "see"? |
| 18:16.30 | aaraujo | hi, could anyone help me to find out what te problem is? |
| 18:16.33 | aaraujo | dpkg-shlibdeps: failure: couldn't find library libdb_cxx-4.6.so needed by debian/libsafet/usr/lib/libsafet.so.0.1.0 (its RPATH is ''). |
| 18:16.43 | hahah | cd dir under other account |
| 18:16.47 | hahah | which is not root account |
| 18:17.04 | aaraujo | i need to define a path to search for a shared library |
| 18:17.46 | harpal | how can I set image while system boots? |
| 18:18.19 | hahah | chmod +xrw Unreal3.2.7 |
| 18:18.26 | hahah | i did give mode to it |
| 18:18.35 | hahah | but i couldnt upload file into that folder still |
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| 18:19.11 | stew | hahah: http://wiki.debian.org/Permissions |
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| 18:20.20 | JPT | harpal: take a loot at bootsplash or usplash |
| 18:20.27 | JPT | there's also "splashy" |
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| 18:21.33 | harpal | JPT: ok, hey can i specify screen position, so that boot process are seen only that area other is filled with one image?? |
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| 18:22.13 | JPT | er... i just failed at trying some bootsplash and usplash... i don't really know about the configuration.. |
| 18:22.24 | JPT | it is possible... but i don't know how to do it :) |
| 18:22.36 | JPT | you'd better look it up somewhere... |
| 18:23.13 | kevin05 | n3kl : Host key verification failed. |
| 18:23.13 | kevin05 | lost connection |
| 18:23.13 | harpal | JPT: Hey Thanks, I will look at that. |
| 18:23.19 | JPT | no problem :) |
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| 18:26.03 | kevin05 | !scp |
| 18:26.03 | dpkg | scp is Secure Copy, part of the ssh suite, and a very handy program. The client program is in the openssh-client package and it just uses the ssh server at the other end so you don't need to install anything special on the server (openssh-server package). ssh + cpio. Install scponly to restrict commands to scp-users. More infos: <sftp><sshfs> |
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| 18:30.46 | Shai | Well I may have figured this out...sorta |
| 18:30.51 | Shai | waiting for cron |
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| 18:31.55 | Shai | next I get to figure out how to use mencoder to combine all the jpg's into a mpg |
| 18:33.34 | n3kl | Shai: what cool shit are you doing? |
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| 18:34.19 | extor | I wish scp took a password as an argument, would make it so easy to use in scripts |
| 18:34.23 | ddr2 | is 2Gb enough for debian? |
| 18:34.28 | ddr2 | of disk space |
| 18:34.46 | Malf | porn slideshow built by a cron job? |
| 18:34.50 | stew | ddr2: yes, debian only requires about 500mb |
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| 18:34.53 | Shai | n3kl Just screwing around, grabbing satellite images from noaa |
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| 18:34.55 | n3kl | extor: it does take a key though. WHats wrong with that |
| 18:35.11 | Malf | geek porn slideshow via cron |
| 18:35.17 | n3kl | haha |
| 18:35.21 | Malf | I was close |
| 18:35.34 | extor | n3kl, Oh wait you mean the user that is running a script can log in via a public key stored in their home directory? |
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| 18:35.53 | extor | like the passwordless ssh logins? |
| 18:35.57 | n3kl | Shai: where are you getting the images? |
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| 18:36.00 | n3kl | extor: yes |
| 18:36.04 | Shai | It would be really cool if it was working....but it's not. |
| 18:36.09 | Shai | n3kl NOAA.GOV |
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| 18:36.55 | n3kl | Shai: ah |
| 18:37.10 | n3kl | Shai: those aren't nearly as cool as I thought they would be |
| 18:37.51 | Shai | Ya know how you look at those sat mpg's and you're like "Man I wish I could view a weeks worth" well that's what I'm trying to do. |
| 18:38.26 | n3kl | Ahhh |
| 18:38.43 | n3kl | Never looked at satallite mpgs before |
| 18:39.08 | Shai | They take their hourly sat photos and combine them into mpg but it's only like a few hour's worth. |
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| 18:39.17 | Shai | I'm trying to extend that out. |
| 18:39.35 | Shai | And using their higher resolution still photos to do it. |
| 18:39.39 | justin | Shai: transcode can make movies from individual frames as well |
| 18:39.45 | justin | it has a cleaner api than mencoder too |
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| 18:40.07 | Shai | But if I can't get this cron shit to work I'm going to put this puppy to bed until next year.......smoke break. |
| 18:40.16 | justin | Shai: I have part of a time lapse generation framework that can help with that |
| 18:40.27 | pickcoder | I played around with an application once that let you zoom in on the globe |
| 18:40.27 | justin | I left it running for a month :) |
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| 18:40.48 | n3kl | pickcoder: like google maps? =] |
| 18:40.51 | pickcoder | no |
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| 18:40.54 | pickcoder | it was a 3D model |
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| 18:40.57 | justin | google earth? |
| 18:41.03 | n3kl | pickcoder: like googleearth? |
| 18:41.06 | pickcoder | nope |
| 18:41.11 | pickcoder | NOAA created it |
| 18:41.18 | Shai | justin - it auto grabs the photos from specified source? |
| 18:41.53 | justin | Shai: you just have to write a source script that acquires the image somehow |
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| 18:42.03 | n3kl | How do you guys feel about govt internet snoopage? |
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| 18:42.15 | dondelelcaro | n3kl: it's not really on topic here |
| 18:42.18 | justin | it expects a 'device' option but that can be ignored, or you can just pass it a url as the device :) |
| 18:42.30 | Shai | justin - I got wget to do it. I'll be back in 5min |
| 18:42.44 | n3kl | dondelelcaro: fair enough. |
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| 18:45.32 | aaraujo | it is possible to build a library debian package that depends on a library that it is compiles and installed from its sources? |
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| 18:47.23 | newsense | hi dondelelcaro |
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| 18:48.04 | xingu | even a solution to an n-p complete problem is possible |
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| 18:49.21 | dondelelcaro | n3kl: hey |
| 18:49.30 | dondelelcaro | s/n3kl/newsense/ |
| 18:49.56 | cfchris6 | I want to attach myself to the screen-session of another user. (Me=root) I tried 'su - user' and then 'screen -x' but this throws Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/6' - please check. |
| 18:50.05 | newsense | dam nick completion ahaha |
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| 18:50.19 | newsense | i did it myself about 3 times today |
| 18:50.23 | n3kl | yeah, I didn't want to tell dondelelcaro hi anyway ;) |
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| 18:51.20 | newsense | why hes on wikipedia |
| 18:51.21 | dondelelcaro | newsense: yeah, it doesn't help that I'm on a really laggy link and didnt' notice that it was wrong until after I had hit enter and waited for a few seconds |
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| 18:52.00 | n3kl | newsense: who is ? |
| 18:52.08 | newsense | the don |
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| 18:52.57 | alberto | hi |
| 18:53.14 | alberto | can I paste an error i have with xorg and my intel video card in lenny? |
| 18:54.08 | alberto | please |
| 18:54.09 | alberto | :D |
| 18:54.19 | n3kl | !paste |
| 18:54.19 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 3 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! |
| 18:55.24 | n3kl | dondelelcaro: you're a biologist? |
| 18:55.33 | Shai | ok I tried editting crontab with 5 * * * * <command> but nothing happened. The command didn't run from what I could tell and I didn't get a new email message. |
| 18:55.37 | n3kl | I thought all debian people lived breathed and slept debian |
| 18:55.37 | dondelelcaro | n3kl: yes |
| 18:55.52 | alberto | thanks |
| 18:55.55 | alberto | http://rafb.net/p/vEnTDx50.html |
| 18:55.58 | newsense | dondelelcaro is the man ! |
| 18:56.52 | alberto | I installed debian lenny in a laptop with intel video card, xorg restart and after display gives a black screen and system restart is needed to join X, only tty is posible |
| 18:57.01 | alberto | there is the x error output |
| 18:57.03 | alberto | thanks |
| 18:57.03 | Shai | n3kl Years ago when first interested in linux I chose debian because one everyone said it was hard and two because anytime you'd ask someone which flavor you'd always get a different answer. |
| 18:57.45 | n3kl | debian was not my first distro,but imo, it is the best for most things |
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| 18:58.00 | Shai | so now I realize I'm just a damn masochist. |
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| 18:58.15 | n3kl | I would like to still do debian, but I am tired of being an IT professional |
| 18:58.15 | newsense | debian is way easy to setup, the config files are nicely laid out and easily editable by most new linux users in my opinion |
| 18:58.29 | alberto | I installed debian lenny in a laptop with intel video card, xorg restart and after display gives a black screen and system restart is needed to join X, only tty is posible |
| 18:58.32 | alberto | there is the x error output |
| 18:58.34 | alberto | http://rafb.net/p/vEnTDx50.html |
| 18:58.37 | Shai | newsense - now they are. |
| 18:58.42 | alberto | someone take a look, please |
| 18:58.44 | Shai | linux has come a LONG way. |
| 18:59.18 | newsense | i used potato |
| 18:59.22 | Shai | Try setting up a printer 5 or more years ago....an all day process in most cases. Today....5 minutes. |
| 18:59.42 | n3kl | Shai: if some people have their way, it will end up in teh shitter with license costs and stuff. Just read an interesting article on the future of linux |
| 18:59.51 | n3kl | alberto: is that your entire config |
| 19:00.01 | xingu | Shai: and yet it still shits itself if you dereference an entry in the ipsec SPD and have no corresponding entry in the SAD and no keying daemon running. |
| 19:00.08 | alberto | setting up a printer was very easy with unix common printing system and WEB based GUI |
| 19:00.19 | alberto | n3kl: not entire, do you need all? |
| 19:00.19 | n3kl | newsense: my first debian install was woody, but I wasn't serious with debian until sarge became stable |
| 19:00.24 | Shai | no doubt linux is under a lot of pressures. |
| 19:00.25 | alberto | i thought that was enought |
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| 19:00.34 | n3kl | alberto: grep EE /var/log/Xorg.log |
| 19:00.40 | Shai | xingu - I said it has come a long way......it's ain't "there" yet. |
| 19:00.41 | n3kl | alberto: that doesn't tell me anything |
| 19:01.03 | newsense | i ran woody too, config files werent as nicely customized as they are now though i guess |
| 19:01.07 | thedonvaughn | Shai: what "ain't" there about it? |
| 19:01.24 | xingu | ... and I _preferred_ the printcap approach, for me this web gui shite is a giant leap backwards. |
| 19:01.24 | Shai | I'm a windows guy myself.....but have dabbled enough in linux to know it has improved immensely. |
| 19:01.49 | xingu | doubly so now that everything and its dog has a hard dep on it |
| 19:01.50 | jester45 | im a fan of webuis |
| 19:01.56 | thedonvaughn | it's always been better than windows. |
| 19:02.02 | n3kl | xingu: SAD? Keying daemon? What are you talking about? And ipsec is like the new ftp man, its a dying horse |
| 19:02.04 | thedonvaughn | since well befofre win95 was released |
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| 19:02.12 | Shai | thedonvaughn - Please lets not get into a debate over where linux is or isn't or whether or not its the perfect os...please.... |
| 19:02.12 | thedonvaughn | but now we're just being subjective :) |
| 19:02.15 | xingu | kicks n3kl into touch |
| 19:02.36 | alberto | n3kl: what is the first line ? |
| 19:02.40 | jester45 | best thing for remote systems... better than remote desktop yet easier (most of the time) than cli |
| 19:02.44 | alberto | from where do I need to copy to the end? |
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| 19:03.06 | thedonvaughn | Shai: sure, you're free to make a comment and i'm not free to ask what you mean by it. ok |
| 19:03.44 | Shai | thedonvaughn - I've been asked that question by enough people over the years to know its a LOADED question. |
| 19:04.08 | n3kl | xingu: alright so you think I am out of touch with the stream encryption protocols. But what about the first two acks you used? I don't know what they are. |
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| 19:04.17 | thedonvaughn | Shai: then you should know when you make comments like that, as I've heard over the years, it's a LOADED comment. |
| 19:04.21 | n3kl | alberto: just paste the file man |
| 19:04.27 | xingu | n3kl: just on the off chance you weren't being facetious, SPD == security policy database, SAD == security association database, keying daemon == racoon in this case. |
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| 19:05.19 | xingu | n3kl: and under 2.6.26 and newer the end result of dereferencing an SPD entry with no corresponding SAD and no keying daemon running is a hard lock followed by a reboot. |
| 19:05.22 | n3kl | xingu: no, I wasn;t being facetious |
| 19:05.29 | alberto | n3kl: http://rafb.net/p/paJ0xE20.html |
| 19:05.39 | Shai | thedonvaughn - if you've got something to prove about linux, please...prove it. I'm not here trashing linux. In fact I'm using it for a task Windows is ill suited for without some serious money involved. |
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| 19:05.45 | alberto | after lockup i killed gdm and retry to join but not posible |
| 19:05.53 | alberto | only rebooting |
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| 19:06.19 | thedonvaughn | Shai: i have nothing to proove. I could care less what someone uses on their servers or workstations. Just simply asking what do u mean? But i don't care anymore really. |
| 19:06.49 | Shai | thedonvaughn - cool |
| 19:06.50 | verblendet | i inserted an isdn card to my pc and my ethernet was reconfigured as eth1, i removed the isdn card, but its still eth1, /etc/network/interfaces only lists eth0, how can i reconfigure network? i want my eth0 back, which has static address, and eth1 is using dhcp, this causes some trouble here in my network. how can i swithc my eth1 back to eth1? |
| 19:06.51 | xingu | n3kl: the reproducable is - don't start racoon at boot, load (via ipsec-tools.conf -> setkey) the SPD with a transport mode entry, then ping the endpoint (of the SPD entry) |
| 19:07.06 | verblendet | i use debian etch r4 |
| 19:07.08 | xingu | n3kl: ... the result will be *boom* if my data is anything to go by |
| 19:07.14 | stew | thedonvaughn: Shai: please take this conversation to a more appropriate channel, perhaps #debian-offtopic or ##linux or #defocus |
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| 19:07.39 | Shai | Thanks Stew. thedonvaughn I'll meet you there. |
| 19:08.21 | n3kl | xingu: isn't ldap an SPD? Or couldn't it be setup to be one. Your talking about a method to configure systems similar to Active Directory, right? |
| 19:08.30 | xingu | n3kl: it's doubly annoying considering that ipsec transport mode on ipv6 died back when racoon 0.5 was a new thing |
| 19:08.55 | n3kl | xingu: oh, nvm about that |
| 19:09.02 | xingu | n3kl: no, racoon psk; the spd entry merely tells the system that it needs to build (or use) an SAD entry to reach that endpoint |
| 19:09.07 | alberto | n3kl: i did, can you help? |
| 19:09.15 | n3kl | xingu: but ipsec was a drop in solution, its not even a mature protol iirc |
| 19:09.27 | xingu | n3kl: it's _mandatory_ for ipv6 conformance! |
| 19:09.36 | xingu | n3kl: new like classic coke is new |
| 19:09.45 | n3kl | alberto: I have no idea about your problem. You might paste your xorg.conf |
| 19:09.48 | Shai | is there another way to run a task hourly without going through cron? I can't seem to make it work. |
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| 19:09.58 | n3kl | xingu: serious? |
| 19:10.03 | xingu | n3kl: deadly. |
| 19:10.11 | n3kl | xingu: why couldn't they come up with a better encryption to use |
| 19:10.26 | SpeCon | hello all. I have an irc server running. Standard the file decryptors are set to 1024. I mean how can i get that number higher for the ulimit |
| 19:10.35 | alberto | my xorg conf is very small |
| 19:10.36 | xingu | n3kl: there's nothing wrong with ipsec crypto, the problems are all implementation and linux as they say is not shining. |
| 19:10.57 | alberto | i did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but dialog not sa configurable as before |
| 19:10.59 | alberto | time ago |
| 19:11.03 | n3kl | xingu: iirc, ipsec is hackable on most platforms |
| 19:11.06 | jester45 | Shai, why wont it work with cron? any thing should run fine from cron unless its a gui app but im sure you could get that to work also |
| 19:11.19 | Sling | its not ipsec that is hackable, but the implementations :) |
| 19:11.23 | N3bunel | saluta |
| 19:11.27 | n3kl | ahh |
| 19:11.50 | Sling | (unless you found an exploit in the protocol) |
| 19:12.03 | Sling | which is unlikely |
| 19:12.10 | xingu | anyway, screw it, after breaking _my_ brain against it for 2y+ I've given up |
| 19:12.17 | xingu | linux ipsec FTL |
| 19:12.19 | n3kl | Sling: but I could bt captain whoopass and you would never know ;) |
| 19:12.24 | Sling | sure :) |
| 19:12.27 | xingu | bin it, use a vendor that knows what they're doing |
| 19:12.28 | Sling | but then id like to see a POC |
| 19:12.54 | xingu | suggests - Nortel/ NetScreen |
| 19:13.02 | n3kl | Sling: also, aren't most ipse implementations based on weak keys? But I guess that is why the implementation is hackable and not the actual protocol |
| 19:13.11 | alberto | n3kl: http://rafb.net/p/y0P6IJ88.html |
| 19:13.23 | wols_ | ttl-: you have to integrate them into ipmasq |
| 19:13.25 | Sling | for example |
| 19:13.41 | wols_ | ttl-: /etc/ipmasq/rules/ |
| 19:13.50 | Shai | jester45 probably because I don't fully understand how to use it. |
| 19:13.53 | n3kl | Sling: poc? |
| 19:13.58 | Sling | proof of concept |
| 19:14.02 | deus___ | is back. |
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| 19:14.32 | n3kl | Sling: ah, right |
| 19:14.37 | jester45 | Shai, would you mind putting your crontab on a pastebin ? ill take a look |
| 19:14.40 | SpeCon | hello all. I have an irc server running. Standard the file decryptors are set to 1024. I mean how can i get that number higher for the ulimit |
| 19:14.44 | n3kl | too many damn ackronyms in here |
| 19:14.52 | SpeCon | how to i modify ulimit |
| 19:14.55 | alberto | n3kl: xorg http://rafb.net/p/y0P6IJ88.html |
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| 19:14.57 | Shai | So if I want something to run every hour I would use this format: 0 1 * * * ? |
| 19:15.11 | Shai | or would that run it at 1am everyday? |
| 19:15.23 | xingu | n3kl: "weak" depends on threat vector; if I get you right you're alluding to key recovery compromises that rely on system-local access to the node performing crypto |
| 19:15.42 | jester45 | Shai, correct |
| 19:15.55 | doxtor | I want to upgrade from etch to lenny and get "Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration" How do I fix this? |
| 19:16.07 | Shai | jester45 - to clarify it would run at 1am everyday? |
| 19:16.09 | xingu | n3kl: in the ipsec case that's a known-unknown (or in some cases - a known-known); in the non-ipsec case it's an unknown-unknown, which is arguably worse. |
| 19:16.22 | n3kl | xingu: no, that *is* possible. What I am getting at, is I remember a few years back a study that was done where man in the middle was used to capture the data |
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| 19:16.34 | jester45 | shingouz, it would run at 01:00 every day of every week of every month |
| 19:16.45 | jester45 | oo run name |
| 19:16.53 | n3kl | xingu: at leas, I am pretty sure it is possible to do a key recovery from the local systems |
| 19:16.58 | xingu | n3kl: magic eightball says "unlikely"; there's more and less secure ike modes though |
| 19:17.00 | jester45 | fixes his tab complete |
| 19:17.08 | xingu | aaaaaanyway. |
| 19:17.09 | jester45 | Shai, what i said above |
| 19:17.12 | Shai | jester45 ok. so how do I make it run hourly? |
| 19:17.31 | n3kl | xingu: I could have my information wrong. Its been a few years since I have done anything with ipsec. |
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| 19:17.50 | stew | Shai: if you want it to run every hour, put * in the hour column, which is the second column |
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| 19:18.12 | Shai | hmmmm |
| 19:18.23 | jester45 | shai 30 * * * * would run at it the :30 of every hour |
| 19:18.32 | jester45 | 0 might also work... or use 1 |
| 19:18.51 | jester45 | i guess it would i just dont trust it lamo |
| 19:18.53 | n3kl | jester45: you could to */5 * * * * for every fiv minutes though |
| 19:19.02 | stew | or instead of "0 * * * *" one could just put "@hourly" |
| 19:19.10 | Shai | Yeah well I tried to run it in a test every 5 minutes but then I realized it would probably only run every 05 of the hour......I'm some confused. |
| 19:19.25 | Shai | So I just trying to understand this formatting. |
| 19:19.38 | stew | Shai: "man 5 crontab" documents it |
| 19:19.48 | n3kl | Shai: */5 * * * * <command> |
| 19:19.55 | Shai | stew yeah I read it. it still isn't as clear as I'd hoped |
| 19:20.34 | Shai | n3kl I'll give that a try. |
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| 19:21.27 | Shai | bad minute |
| 19:22.33 | jester45 | Shai, you could put 5,10,15, i know it looks kinda ungly in the crontab but you probly wont look at it often |
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| 19:23.17 | Shai | how about 0-59/5 |
| 19:23.22 | n3kl | Shai: are you doing this in crontab -e or in /etc/cron.d ? |
| 19:23.30 | Shai | crontab -e |
| 19:23.55 | stew | 0-59/5 is exactly the same a */5 |
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| 19:24.06 | stew | (in the minute column at least) |
| 19:24.07 | Shai | tell crontab that...it doesn't like either or |
| 19:24.28 | Shai | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:24.30 | stew | Shai: what is the exact line you are trying to enter? |
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| 19:24.34 | Nyle | hey |
| 19:24.49 | Nyle | whats a good webcam model to purchase that works flawlessly with linux with some cool features n stuff |
| 19:24.50 | Shai | 0-59/5 * * * * /usr/bin/wget http://www.goes.noaa.gov/GIFS/HUIR.JPG -O |
| 19:24.50 | n3kl | Shai: maybe its 5/* |
| 19:24.52 | Nyle | you know |
| 19:24.56 | n3kl | Shai: I remember using it a while back |
| 19:24.57 | Nyle | not just bland snapshop but video recording too |
| 19:24.57 | daydalu | hey² |
| 19:25.01 | Nyle | any recommendations? |
| 19:25.14 | Nyle | some packaged driver in main that fully support the webcam |
| 19:25.21 | stew | !tell Nyle about enter |
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| 19:26.07 | Shai | NM Stew, nano wrapped the line....apparently crontab couldn't figure that out so I had to straighten it up. It accepted it this time. |
| 19:26.12 | Shai | Now lets see if it runs. |
| 19:26.16 | stew | Shai: that works here, though you should note that you are missing a filename after -O |
| 19:26.22 | Shai | I'm going to dance for the next 5 minutes |
| 19:26.25 | Shai | dances |
| 19:27.06 | Shai | Yeah it was part of the line wrap issue, stew....the missing filename. |
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| 19:27.14 | alberto | n3kl: how can I use xdebconfigurator to get a right /etc/X11/xorg.conf file |
| 19:27.15 | Nyle | hey, whats a good webcam model to purchase that works flawlessly with linux with some cool features n stuff, you know, not just bland snapshop but video recording too, any recommendations?, some packaged driver in main that fully support the webcam. |
| 19:27.19 | Nyle | better? |
| 19:27.28 | alberto | n3kl: dpkg-reconfigure doesnt give a long file |
| 19:28.26 | Shai | n3kl - what was that article you were talkign about. I'd like to read that. |
| 19:28.33 | Nyle | anyone anyone? |
| 19:29.00 | n3kl | !tell alberto about drxx |
| 19:29.07 | n3kl | Shai: which? |
| 19:29.17 | Shai | n3kl about linux licensing |
| 19:29.45 | stew | alberto: what do you mean be "a long file"? |
| 19:29.50 | elik | !tell elik about everything |
| 19:29.51 | n3kl | Shai: k, lemm find it |
| 19:30.15 | elik | darn, dpkg won't tell me about everything :( |
| 19:30.30 | alberto | n3kl: dpkg-reconfigure gives a short file |
| 19:30.35 | alberto | like the one I pasted |
| 19:30.57 | alberto | 21:12 < alberto> n3kl: http://rafb.net/p/y0P6IJ88.html |
| 19:31.00 | alberto | that ... |
| 19:31.54 | stew | alberto: that file looks correct |
| 19:32.20 | Shai | 0-59/5 * * * * /usr/bin/wget http://www.goes.noaa.gov/GIFS/HUIR.JPG -O /home/domoso/weather/GOES/Gulf_Atlantic/IR/HUIR_`date +%F_%Hh%Mm%Ss`.JPG |
| 19:32.27 | alberto | stew: 20:57 < alberto> http://rafb.net/p/vEnTDx50.html |
| 19:32.29 | alberto | this one not... |
| 19:32.35 | Shai | Ok there's my crontab entry, can you find the problem? I certainly cant |
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| 19:32.49 | alberto | my xserver restart and breaks with that error and only rebooting I can join X again from console |
| 19:32.56 | alberto | stew: take a look please |
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| 19:33.17 | stew | alberto: what does "uname -r" say? |
| 19:33.21 | n3kl | Shai: http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/08/14/2056229&from=rss |
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| 19:33.50 | alberto | alberto@debianBook:~$ uname -r |
| 19:33.50 | alberto | 2.6.25-2-686 |
| 19:33.59 | alberto | why? |
| 19:34.12 | barnum | ? |
| 19:34.14 | stew | alberto: what version of debian is this? |
| 19:34.18 | barnum | running testing? |
| 19:34.20 | alberto | lenny |
| 19:34.21 | stew | alberto: have you checked the bts? |
| 19:34.21 | alberto | yes |
| 19:34.26 | alberto | bts what is that? |
| 19:34.28 | barnum | thats what version mine is |
| 19:34.30 | stew | !bts |
| 19:34.30 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. Useful for unstable and testing: aptitude install apt-listbugs <apt-listchanges> . |
| 19:34.36 | ericpersson | Anyone know of a service or a software to check email deliverytimes? |
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| 19:34.41 | alberto | ok thanks |
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| 19:34.45 | alberto | ill take a look |
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| 19:38.12 | dob1 | hi, i have a package in this state "pF db2exc" from dpkg -l, i want to remove it or to reinstall it (i have the deb) how can i do it? |
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| 19:39.54 | deus___ | man dpkg |
| 19:40.07 | slidesinger | Is anyone here familiar with using a usb to rs232 adapter? So far dmesg shows it as a p12303 converter on /dev/ttyUSB0, unfortunately setserial -g /dev/ttyUSB0 states this as an invalid argument. Do I need to do something special because it is USB? |
| 19:42.54 | elik | slidesinger, hum |
| 19:42.58 | stew | dob1: what happens when you run "aptitude install db2exc" ? |
| 19:42.58 | elik | slidesinger, usually not |
| 19:43.08 | elik | slidesinger, the ttyUSB0 should be fine |
| 19:43.18 | elik | slidesinger, if you want to make some tests, I suggest cutecom |
| 19:43.28 | stew | i'm guessing you get an error in postrm |
| 19:44.12 | dob1 | stew: it's not in a repository, i have only the deb |
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| 19:44.56 | stew | dob1: what happens when you run "dpkg -i /path/to/.deb" ? |
| 19:45.05 | nkuttler | dob1: fix the pre/postrm script |
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| 19:45.10 | dob1 | stew: i am doing it |
| 19:45.12 | elik | slidesinger, I'm not sure what setserial do exactly, nor the -g switch, but cutecom has a gui to set all the params and stuff.. so it's less error prone, IMHO |
| 19:45.16 | Shai | n3kl - I wouldn't worry too much about that. While linux may be moving in that direction the fact is it has a long lineage of being the rebel with free software. I would imagine there would always be a "free" version of it. |
| 19:46.16 | dob1 | stew: it the postremoval script |
| 19:46.37 | Shai | n3kl - besides they're talking 2012 and that's the year of the apocalypse! |
| 19:47.42 | slidesinger | elik: I'll give it a try, though I prefer to stay with the command line as I work with a lot of servers. |
| 19:47.52 | elik | slidesinger, other than that, if you simply cat/echo stuff on /dev/ttyUSB0, default parameters would be used (9600-N-1) |
| 19:48.18 | dob1 | if i try to remove it, it says me that it is in bad condition it's better to install it before doing this |
| 19:48.21 | elik | slidesinger, well, agreed with you, but that would be a good first step :) |
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| 19:49.00 | stew | dob1: you can try to debug the postrm script by adding "set -x" near the top of the script, which is located in /var/lib/dpkg/info/$packagename.postrm |
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| 19:52.46 | linkslice | when specifying --download-only during a dist-upgrade it warns that 'so much space will be used after unpacking' but it's not going to unpack because of download only correct? |
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| 19:53.03 | linkslice | I'm just confused because the warning it's giving me is about something that shouldn't happen |
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| 19:54.32 | B_Raven | Having some nasty issues with my geforce 8800GTX card. Default xorg config works just fine, but whenever I edit it to use the nvidia driver I get an "out of range" error from my LCD monitors. Tried appending "_60" at the end of the modes, but no help.. :( |
| 19:54.48 | B_Raven | Debian stable, btw. |
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| 19:59.12 | linkslice | apt-get -d dist-upgrade should do the trick right? |
| 19:59.40 | dob1 | stew: sorry, the scripts start with set -e etc etc, where do you suggest to put set -x = |
| 19:59.43 | dob1 | ? |
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| 20:01.04 | nkuttler | dob1: at the beginning |
| 20:01.04 | dob1 | ok thanks |
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| 20:01.17 | nkuttler | dob1: did the install fail as well? maybe you should fix the install script then |
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| 20:01.23 | stew | dob1: the beginning, right after #!/bin/sh, leave set -e there, then try 'dpkg -i' again, it should tell you what it is doing when it fails |
| 20:01.58 | dob1 | nkuttler: the install fails because it calls the postrm before the install |
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| 20:02.33 | jpinx | can I run dd_rescue from Etch and rescue a NTFS drive? |
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| 20:02.54 | dob1 | stew: i think is this rm /opt/ibm/db2exc/V9.5/cfg/installcopy.cfg i don't have this file |
| 20:03.33 | stew | dob1: change it to rm -f |
| 20:03.50 | dob1 | stew: i created it, then i see if it work |
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| 20:07.36 | slidesinger | elik: minicom works quite well without x. I have connected to the device in question. Now I just have to figure out what to do with it. |
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| 20:08.44 | slidesinger | elik: setserial still returns invalid argument, so I suspect it is a syntax issue on my part. |
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| 20:09.51 | j_engelh | After installing xfonts-efont-unicode, I do not see the new fonts appearing in `xlsfonts`, though I have run fc-cache and/or restarted X. |
| 20:10.34 | Shai | I can't believe it's taken me most of the day to figure out how to get this wget to work with cron. I'm close but now it won't recognize the file naming scheme that includes a timestamp. |
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| 20:15.53 | Shai | finally got it. Thank you Jesus! |
| 20:16.34 | Shai | time for a celebratory smoke! woot! |
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| 20:17.25 | dob1 | stew, nkuttler: seems that i have resolved (not all but in part, i can reinstall / remove it) thanks for the help |
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| 20:19.18 | lem0n | hello, when i run "cat /proc/sys/fs/file-max" to see the allowed file descriptor amount compiled in the kernel, it returns "101262", i've never messed with this, i assume this is fine/correct? |
| 20:19.38 | stiv2k_ | Anyone here ever use dvd95? |
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| 20:21.42 | stiv2k_ | What can I use to copy a DVD-9 to a DVD-4.7? |
| 20:22.47 | j_engelh | What's the preferred way for setting the background picture? (No KDE and no GNOME.) So far, I used xsetbgimg, but that is with the non-free xv program. |
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| 20:27.31 | neonlightning | j_engelh, i use fluxbox and i just use fbsetbg+feh |
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| 20:28.28 | Malf | j_engelh: Yeah I do the same as neonlightning. I suspect your wm may be the determining factor |
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| 20:30.11 | Malf | j_engelh: and checking now I'm a liar and I actually use fbsetbg with esetroot |
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| 20:31.54 | stew | xsetroot is the utility that comes with X, but you'd have to convert the image to a bitmap first |
| 20:32.18 | Wolfclaw | is there any linux command to check if a file exists? |
| 20:32.28 | stew | Wolfclaw: man test |
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| 20:33.21 | Wolfclaw | thnx stew |
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| 20:35.53 | dustybin | press [1] if you are looking forward to the lenny release |
| 20:37.05 | dustybin | when debian has used up all the characters in toy story, will they start using characters from the latest pixar movie, wall-e ? |
| 20:37.41 | Malf | dustybin: Nah they'll just shut down the project. "It had a good run but quite frankly we're out of characters." |
| 20:37.53 | dustybin | :P |
| 20:38.13 | Trewas | with lenny they are well into simsons characters and can go on with them |
| 20:38.20 | Trewas | simpsons, even |
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| 20:39.08 | j_engelh | Malf: I found I can use xli -onroot |
| 20:39.24 | j_engelh | that's the true X tool :) |
| 20:39.45 | Malf | j_engelh: hah nice. I'll have to give that a look at some point |
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| 20:41.40 | Z4ndX | Hello.. what package do i need ?.. cant find it :P .. |
| 20:41.40 | Z4ndX | checking for GLIB... configure: error: Package requirements (glib-2.0 >= 2.6.0) were not met: |
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| 20:43.34 | basix | hello all, i know this isn't the place to ask for hardware advise but i'm a hardcore debian user and want to buy a new laptop. i want to know which company to buy to get linux support out of the box ( small tune ups are okay but nothing major like a kernel recompilation etc... ). i really want to avoid dell as its build quality is not very good ( I use an Inspiron. Dont know about others ). |
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| 20:45.50 | Trewas | basix: thinkpads are quite nice, I have a x41 and it has pretty much everything supported with open source drivers |
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| 20:46.23 | basix | Trewas, i was thinking about an HP pavillion. how r they? |
| 20:47.08 | kevin05 | n3kl : now i found the right cmd L to transfer my files via ssh to another server ssh to ssh |
| 20:47.20 | kevin05 | works now |
| 20:47.28 | shze | i try to set a priority to my local repo in pbuilder, i set Pin-Priority: 1001 in /etc/pbuilder/apt/preferences |
| 20:48.03 | shze | and APTCONFDIR=/etc/pbuilder/apt/ /etc/pbuilderrc, but although the preferences is correct in pbuilder, the priorities are still 500 file: ./ Packages |
| 20:48.08 | shze | any idea why? |
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| 20:49.26 | Trewas | basix: I have no idea... and there are quite large variety of models anyway, so it is quite hard to say how well some line works with linux (graphics have especially many options, intel/ati/nvidia etc) |
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| 20:50.15 | Trewas | wlan is another problematic one, many have dodgy drivers |
| 20:50.35 | kevin05 | SSH copy cmd L server to another server scp -r dirname rootname@ip:/mydir/1/2/3/ |
| 20:50.54 | j_engelh | Just use rsync. scp ... is realy whacky |
| 20:50.59 | j_engelh | does not preserve timestamps and such |
| 20:51.02 | kevin05 | SSH copy cmd L server to another server scp filename rootname@ip:/mydir/1/2/3/ |
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| 20:51.31 | stew | j_engelh: scp can preserve timestamps |
| 20:51.32 | basix | Trewas, i should stick to nvidia right? |
| 20:51.37 | kevin05 | well thats the onlt way i found to cop like 45 GB to my new server |
| 20:51.41 | kevin05 | only* |
| 20:51.57 | j_engelh | stew: not mentioned in the manpage |
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| 20:52.05 | j_engelh | stew: it also copies symlinks into real files |
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| 20:52.23 | stew | -p Preserves modification times, access times, and modes from the original file |
| 20:52.39 | j_engelh | then again, scp copies each file separately. |
| 20:52.44 | j_engelh | rsync is a nice byte strema |
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| 20:53.16 | kevin05 | copy file and dir @ same time |
| 20:53.35 | kevin05 | i set it to transfer 45 GB to my new server and works perfect |
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| 20:54.27 | kevin05 | 45 GB and 15 Dir |
| 20:54.48 | dustybin | does anybody have any simple tricks or tips, in regards to using debian? |
| 20:55.25 | kevin05 | almost 675 files |
| 20:55.27 | Trewas | basix: I prefer nvidia in general, but with laptops intel is also good choice |
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| 20:58.03 | basix | Trewas, with vanilla debian what would you suggest? Nvidia or Intel? I want it to run out of the box as much as possible and not waste too much time configuring. Also would having 1440x900 resolution on a 14" widescreen make any sense? |
| 20:58.27 | dustybin | basix: what will you use the gfx for? |
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| 20:58.41 | dustybin | games? or normal desktop? |
| 20:58.53 | dustybin | or htpc? |
| 20:59.40 | stew | basix: intel has much better support |
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| 21:00.05 | Trewas | basix: nvidia requires the proprietary drivers, intel has open ones so better support with debian out of the box... nvidia's closed drivers are the most feature-full in linux though if you need 3D |
| 21:00.15 | stew | basix: nvidia puts out two different drivers, one free and one non-free, but the free driver they provide is crippled. intel just puts out one free driver that is fully featured |
| 21:00.23 | DawnLight | hello. i've moved the computer to my room and this is the first night that i'm sleeping with it in the room and it's fans are making noise so I want to see if I can suspend it. is suspending it my only option? i remember some windows computers where simply pressing the power button would put them in some kind of freezed state instantly, iirc |
| 21:00.23 | maligor | intel seems to have better 2d performance |
| 21:00.38 | maligor | and pretty dreadful 3d |
| 21:00.44 | maligor | nvidia the other way around |
| 21:00.45 | UKPbz___ | Hi Guys, I was on earlier but still having probs. I have a debian pptpd server, I can connect via vpn to it no probs. but once on it I can't see the rest of the LAN. Any ideas what I need to do? |
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| 21:00.59 | dustybin | why do nvidia put out a free and non-free driver? why dont they make one free drive? |
| 21:01.02 | stew | DawnLight: there is a hibernate package, you can hook up the power button to run hibernate using acpi |
| 21:01.16 | DawnLight | stew: hibernate package. got it |
| 21:01.36 | stew | DawnLight: you can also hook up suspend to the power buttun using acpi, for that matter |
| 21:01.38 | maligor | dustybin, because they have the capitalism syndrome, "It's ours, you can't have it" |
| 21:01.40 | dustybin | stew: is the nvidia non-free driver binary only? so the source code is hidden? |
| 21:02.03 | DawnLight | stew: but i think suspend doesn't work here. i don't remember what i've tried, exactly |
| 21:02.03 | maligor | also called "IP" |
| 21:02.14 | Trewas | I personally will support nvidia as long as they are the only graphics card maker supporting linux (i.e., making working drivers) :P |
| 21:02.23 | stew | dustybin: there is a kernel driver which is open-source, and the x driver which is closed source |
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| 21:02.33 | dustybin | hmm |
| 21:02.43 | maligor | stew, uhhuh |
| 21:02.46 | maligor | stew, no. |
| 21:02.57 | dustybin | i think people should start supporting the intel open driver what works very well, ditch nvidia + ati |
| 21:02.59 | stew | maligor: which part of that is wrong? |
| 21:03.03 | maligor | the kernel driver consists of one big binary blot... the binary blob is huge |
| 21:03.08 | maligor | the 'source' is just a wrapper |
| 21:03.13 | elik | slidesinger, yeah, I installed setserial and it look quite funky... |
| 21:03.37 | stew | ok, i never bothered to actually look at the source |
| 21:03.39 | maligor | the binary blob is atleast 3 times larger than the typical kernel binary |
| 21:03.43 | Trewas | dustybin: intel doesn't make graphics cards (only integrated), and their driver (or probably X in general) misses some features nvidia has |
| 21:03.57 | maligor | it's ridiculously huge |
| 21:04.01 | elik | slidesinger, the g arg is only described in the description.. and not in the opiton |
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| 21:04.12 | elik | s/opiton/options |
| 21:04.12 | stew | Trewas: and the nvidia driver misses some features that the intel has |
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| 21:04.34 | elik | slidesinger, anyway, you shouldn't need it once you get it running |
| 21:04.43 | dustybin | Trewas: some of the intel onboard gfx chips can play back h.264 HD video |
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| 21:05.20 | Trewas | dustybin: none of the graphics cars accelerate h264 decoding |
| 21:05.56 | dustybin | nope not yet, but the google summer of code might change that |
| 21:06.26 | dustybin | is this spooky or is this spooky: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7559150.stm |
| 21:06.43 | dustybin | <topic> |
| 21:08.31 | Trewas | stew: what features do nvidia drivers miss, out of interest? |
| 21:09.15 | Trewas | it would be nice if there was some open source drivers on par with nvidia's closed drivers but I have not seen evidence of that yet... |
| 21:09.15 | stew | Trewas: last i heard their RANDR support was nowhere near that of intel |
| 21:09.55 | pickcoder | Trewas: no way to specify shared memory allocation .. :) |
| 21:10.08 | elik | dustybin, it indeed is |
| 21:10.17 | elik | dustybin, I wonder what is the size of the neuron array |
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| 21:10.33 | elik | dustybin, and how they feed it with the distance from the wall... |
| 21:11.11 | dustybin | elik: this is the begining of human robot clones |
| 21:11.21 | elik | dustybin, bah... I doubt it |
| 21:11.28 | elik | dustybin, they don't give much info... |
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| 21:11.35 | Trewas | stew: ok, I have not much cared about randr so far |
| 21:11.40 | elik | dustybin, but I wonder how it could "learn" anything |
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| 21:11.50 | elik | dustybin, if it can't tell if it is right or wrong |
| 21:12.01 | dustybin | i dont know |
| 21:12.04 | dustybin | <topic> |
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| 21:13.53 | elik | dustybin, why the topic topic? |
| 21:14.08 | UKPbz___ | is there a debian equiv to this /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward kernel flag |
| 21:14.33 | elik | UKPbz___, isn't ip_forward there? |
| 21:14.44 | stew | UKPbz___: edit /etc/sysctl.conf |
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| 21:15.15 | elik | UKPbz___, http://www.ducea.com/2006/08/01/how-to-enable-ip-forwarding-in-linux/ |
| 21:15.33 | UKPbz___ | thanks guys |
| 21:15.41 | dustybin | elik: if the rats brain was running debian it would be ok, but it isnt :P |
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| 21:19.59 | jair | guys if I have a linux machine and I am trying to figure out what kind of version of linux is :( |
| 21:20.07 | j_engelh | jair: uname -r |
| 21:20.17 | jair | I tried "cat /etc/debian-version" but nothing |
| 21:20.23 | stew | jair: try "lsb_release -a" |
| 21:20.25 | zinx | not Debian then |
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| 21:20.37 | j_engelh | uname -r is the only correct answer |
| 21:20.44 | jair | let me check |
| 21:20.57 | elik | j_engelh, depends if he want to know the kernel version or ditro |
| 21:21.02 | zinx | j_engelh: you are assuming that the correct question was asked. |
| 21:21.03 | j_engelh | elik: he clearly asked for linux |
| 21:21.05 | elik | s/ditro/distro |
| 21:21.16 | elik | j_engelh, he clearly doesn't know what he is looking for |
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| 21:21.34 | elik | with all due respect |
| 21:21.45 | Sebboh | Dear package maintainers: my database is installed on another machine. Don't dpkg: error me if you can't find the postgres uid.. |
| 21:21.54 | basix | stew, Trewas thanks. I just got a quote from HP. Its approximately $1146 for a C2D 2.16GHz, 4GB RAM, Intel 802.11agn + bluetooth, 128MB Nvidia Graphics, 250GB HDD with Windows Vista! :( |
| 21:22.05 | jair | I just get a kernel 2.6.22.19-0.1-smp |
| 21:22.05 | stew | Sebboh: /msg dpkg reportbug |
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| 21:22.19 | elik | jair, right, that is your kernel version |
| 21:22.30 | basix | stew, Trewas i'll be using the gfx for games but not very intensive ones... |
| 21:22.41 | jair | yes but I am trying to check if whether is debian, or any other distro |
| 21:22.50 | stew | jair: try "lsb_release -a" |
| 21:22.59 | jair | stew: I get command not found |
| 21:22.59 | basix | stew, Trewas is it possible to get a refund if you disagree with the Vista EULA? |
| 21:23.09 | elik | j_engelh, ... |
| 21:23.11 | enouf | basix: 3D games? that's the issue really . .and.. do you want to support Proprietary Binary Blobs |
| 21:23.14 | stew | basix: ask ##windows |
| 21:23.27 | j_engelh | elik: ... back |
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| 21:24.06 | enouf | basix: and where are you shopping? online? US? |
| 21:24.08 | Sebboh | stew, thanks. Multiple packages, btw.. I've had this happen a few times this month.. It's a culture thing.. People are forgetting uses cases other than "all-in-one LAMP running off a cable modem in my mom's basement".. =P |
| 21:24.19 | Sebboh | s/uses/use/ |
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| 21:24.28 | basix | enouf, US. i called their "toll free" helpline |
| 21:24.38 | enouf | ... |
| 21:24.50 | enouf | basix: got a credit card? |
| 21:25.17 | basix | stew, i thought it would be a better idea to ask here since ##windows guys would be "windows users" and hence have no experience in getting refunds! :P |
| 21:25.25 | basix | enouf, debit card, why? |
| 21:25.29 | Sebboh | ... |
| 21:25.46 | basix | enouf, i'm a grad student so i need as many discounts as possible :) |
| 21:25.58 | elik | basix, You can't get a refund cause if you don't have windows... you are a pirate |
| 21:26.47 | Sebboh | basix, your idea of cutting costs to survive school is buying a new computer? :) |
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| 21:27.10 | Sebboh | pets his four year old athlon |
| 21:27.11 | stew | basix: this is not the right place to ask questions about vista |
| 21:27.16 | enouf | i dunno, if you really need super 3D then maybe nvidia, but that really only keeps the ball rolling, otherwise the free radeon{hd} driver in X is making great strides since ati/amd started releasing specs - also, i'm not sure how crippled it is, but the openchrome driver for certain VIA chipsets might be pallatable, but i can't say for sure ...yet |
| 21:27.17 | basix | Sebboh, i'm a CS student and *need* a laptop... so if i'm going to spend i dont want to spend on something that'll get obsolete soon |
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| 21:28.06 | Sebboh | basix, you're a rich boy who complains a lot and wants something for nothing. Anyway, I'm out. |
| 21:28.17 | basix | elik, i hope you're sarcastic.. |
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| 21:28.24 | jair | stew: that command is not recognized :( |
| 21:28.24 | elik | basix, if you got vista preinstalled on your laptop... I don't think there is anyway you are going to get a refund, unless you shout really loud |
| 21:28.36 | basix | Sebboh, dont pass judgements so quickly. i'm not a rich guy... |
| 21:28.36 | enouf | basix: i was asking, so perhaps could point to some US retailers, like newegg and such, but i watch the bargain websites too ... you have to know what's decent/good hardware (or make/model) then wait to see if you can find it on sale |
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| 21:28.39 | elik | basix, what else would run your computer??? debian? |
| 21:28.45 | jair | it needs to be somewhere in "etc" or "proc" |
| 21:28.49 | stew | jair: ask ##linux |
| 21:28.53 | pickcoder | OEM installs come with the system |
| 21:28.54 | elik | basix, and what do you think debian relies on??? Windows drivers! :P |
| 21:29.07 | pickcoder | you can send the whole computer back or buy your own O/S retail box |
| 21:29.15 | elik | basix, yeah, totally kidding, I saw a guy arguing like that on some blog.. but HE was serious |
| 21:29.23 | enouf | trades Sebboh for his babyAT p150 |
| 21:29.34 | enouf | :-P |
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| 21:29.40 | basix | enouf, yeah sure do point me at will :) |
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| 21:30.20 | Thms | my Xorg isnt working with ONE user, its working as root, what can be the problem ? |
| 21:30.27 | jair | stew: ok |
| 21:30.30 | jair | Thank you |
| 21:30.41 | enouf | basix: IIRC, off the top of my head, watch benbargains.net, fatwallet.com, slickdeals.net, ..pricegrabber.com? |
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| 21:30.54 | enouf | basix: oh and cheapstingybargains.xxx |
| 21:31.05 | pickcoder | woot.com |
| 21:31.19 | enouf | (used to be cheapstingybastards.xxx) :-P |
| 21:31.30 | Thms | anyone can help me ? |
| 21:31.44 | basix | enouf, they're secure, right? i mean i've never shopped on such sites :| |
| 21:31.51 | Sysctl___ | anyone know how to get the perl linux::aio to compile in etch? I get errors |
| 21:31.57 | Sebboh | enouf, heh. I did manage to decommission everything that required SIMMs in 2006. (that memory starting getting expensive after they stopped manufacturing it..) |
| 21:32.01 | enouf | basix: those are only places that point to where the sales are |
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| 21:32.13 | pickcoder | Sebboh: i have a drawer full of SIMMs |
| 21:32.30 | screamingbytes_ | Thms: it typically helps if you actually post your question. |
| 21:32.35 | enouf | basix: always checkout resellerratings.com before dealing with an unknown retailer |
| 21:32.35 | Thms | I did |
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| 21:32.38 | Thms | I do again: |
| 21:32.41 | Thms | my Xorg isnt working with ONE user, its working as root, what can be the problem ? |
| 21:33.07 | shze | i want to set a priority to my local repository in pbuilder, and i see the repo, but the priority does not change. why? |
| 21:33.08 | pickcoder | ubid.com sometimes gets large lots of off-lease or refurb machines |
| 21:33.12 | enouf | Sebboh: hehe .. yeah, even SDRAM is expensive, but i found a cheap place in Calif ;-) |
| 21:33.16 | basix | enouf, okay...i'll chekc them out |
| 21:33.19 | pickcoder | more often though, it's one unit that people overbid on |
| 21:33.26 | shze | Thms: i had this because of wrong permissions on /tmp |
| 21:34.09 | enouf | pickcoder: unfortunately my p150 is maxed out with 32MB SIMMs (4x8MB) .. :-( |
| 21:34.11 | Thms | shze: how can I see if its dat ? |
| 21:34.32 | enouf | otherwise, i'd hit you up :-P |
| 21:34.42 | Sysctl___ | anyone? |
| 21:34.49 | shze | Thms: ls -l / |grep tmp |
| 21:35.02 | shze | should be drwxrwxrwt 11 root root 4096 2008-08-15 22:30 tmp |
| 21:35.05 | pickcoder | they're 1MB I think |
| 21:35.16 | pickcoder | unless they got tossed in the last cleaning sweep |
| 21:35.48 | Sysctl___ | no one is man enough? ;) |
| 21:36.08 | screamingbytes | Thms: what is your /tmp and xorg.conf file perm's? |
| 21:36.19 | Thms | drwxrwxrwt 5 root root 208 aoû 15 23:33 tmp |
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| 21:36.34 | Thms | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1148 aoû 15 23:21 xorg.conf |
| 21:36.44 | shze | Thms: /tmp looks ok |
| 21:36.46 | stew | Thms: what makes you say that X isn't working? do you get an error? |
| 21:36.47 | enouf | basix: i got real lucky one time .. i ended up with a steal from newegg (3 x 600w CoolerMaster PSUs) .. had to shell out over $150 , but after the 3 manu MIR, i ended up paying $18.00 (cost of S&H) ;-) |
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| 21:37.08 | pickcoder | Sysctl___: trying with cpan |
| 21:37.08 | Thms | stew: yeah and I dont see any picture or grey screen, nothing |
| 21:37.21 | stew | Thms: what is the error you get? |
| 21:37.28 | basix | enouf, wow but does it happen with laptops with such specific configurations? |
| 21:37.29 | pickcoder | Sysctl___: it's b0rked |
| 21:37.30 | enouf | basix: IIRC, MIR $$ took ~6 weeks |
| 21:37.31 | Sysctl___ | pickcoder: its a debian etch specific issue, but ill try none the less |
| 21:37.36 | Thms | can't renemver and I need to shutdown this X if I want to know :( |
| 21:37.46 | enouf | basix: erm, not likely - i like to build my own shit :-0 |
| 21:37.48 | pickcoder | actually.. the AIO.xs has bugs |
| 21:38.00 | pickcoder | too many args... expected expression |
| 21:38.01 | screamingbytes | Thms: can't you look in your log files? |
| 21:38.05 | pickcoder | very ugly |
| 21:38.09 | stew | Thms: why do you have to shutdown x? is the error not in the log? |
| 21:38.21 | Thms | in .xsessions-errors ? |
| 21:38.32 | Sysctl___ | er, that kind of buggers up my chances of getting mogilefs working |
| 21:38.45 | stew | Thms: either there or in /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 21:39.20 | basix | enouf, hehe |
| 21:39.26 | basix | enouf, same here :) |
| 21:39.40 | Thms | http://pastebin.com/f1c7c4f23 |
| 21:39.55 | basix | enouf, is it better if i take accidental protection from HP or go in for an insurance from some 3rd party? |
| 21:40.06 | enouf | basix: basically, i loathe craptops, but hey, we've been a bit offtopic for a while now .. but glad you orig asked about your orig question |
| 21:40.29 | enouf | basix: i can't say ..sorry |
| 21:40.34 | enouf | i mean i don't know |
| 21:40.43 | pickcoder | Sysctl___: IO::AIO maybe? |
| 21:41.00 | pickcoder | the README says it's API compat |
| 21:41.03 | basix | enouf, okay |
| 21:41.19 | basix | enouf, from my past experience, i've not damaged my machine accidentally :) |
| 21:41.21 | enouf | basix: might want to check that reseller... site i mentioned, and "/msg dpkg laptop" <-- visit those URLs |
| 21:41.32 | Thms | so anyone ? |
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| 21:41.43 | enouf | yeah, i always pound my stuff on purpose ;-) |
| 21:41.45 | Gast_340_ | http://www.pennergame.de/change_please/1933371/ |
| 21:41.45 | Sysctl___ | pickcoder: i already installed that, but I'm still having issues with mogilefs, cant seem to connect a client to it... i kidna figured perhaps that was the reason# |
| 21:41.47 | stew | Thms: if you are getting an error, tell us what the error is |
| 21:41.48 | Gast_340_ | http://www.pennergame.de/change_please/1933371/ |
| 21:41.49 | barnum | can you get hp protection on an ibm laptop? :) |
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| 21:41.56 | Thms | stew: |
| 21:41.57 | Thms | http://pastebin.com/f1c7c4f23 |
| 21:42.01 | peter_12 | I have a package that will be installed on a UNIX system and the package contains a web app with all its bits an pieces. The executable goes in /usr/local/bin, server side libraries like java jar files go in /usr/local/lib, where do the read-only client-side files like javascript libraries and css files go? |
| 21:42.05 | stew | Thms: there is no error there |
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| 21:42.54 | enouf | peter_12: no idea, but might want to check out 'stow', are you even using debian? |
| 21:43.10 | Thms | stew: http://pastebin.com/f310e1fe4 |
| 21:43.41 | enouf | hurls barnum into the circus |
| 21:43.49 | basix | enouf, one more question how do i get multiple timezone clocks on my desktop? I'm using GNOME.. |
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| 21:44.10 | enouf | basix: i don't use gnome, but IIRC, there;s a pkg for that |
| 21:44.14 | enouf | world clock? |
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| 21:44.26 | enouf | !tell basix -about search |
| 21:44.45 | barnum | i want world-xdali-clock :) |
| 21:44.55 | barnum | actually PST and GMT would be enough |
| 21:45.43 | basix | enouf, well its supposed to be in gnome 2.22 but i cant find it :( |
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| 21:47.29 | enouf | gworldclock - Displays time and date in specified time zones |
| 21:47.32 | enouf | ?? |
| 21:48.05 | basix | okay |
| 21:48.13 | enouf | ~$ apt-cache show gworldclock |
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| 21:49.55 | enouf | basix: once you learn to search properly, the world is at your feet - from debian pkgs .. i'm still finding stuff i never knew existed, lmao |
| 21:49.59 | verblendet | how can i reconfigure my network card? |
| 21:50.04 | dondelelcaro | basix: or just TZ="America/Los_Angeles" date; date -u |
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| 21:50.19 | enouf | !tell verblendet -about interfaces |
| 21:50.26 | nohelphere | after changing iptables rules...do i have to restart soemthing? |
| 21:50.27 | dondelelcaro | (assuming you meant an area that does PDT/PST) |
| 21:50.31 | dondelelcaro | nohelphere: no |
| 21:50.41 | nohelphere | hmm |
| 21:50.43 | peter_12 | is it common for /usr/local to be on a disk shared by many networked computers? |
| 21:50.47 | nohelphere | i think i fail at iptables |
| 21:51.10 | verblendet | thx enouf, but the problem is: /etc/network/interfaces shows eth0, but after i inserted and then removed again a isdn card, it uses eth1, how to change this? |
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| 21:51.12 | enouf | nohelphere: very possible, and netfilter too :-P |
| 21:51.29 | pickcoder | Sysctl___: http://bbbike.radzeit.de/~slaven/cpantestersmatrix.cgi?dist=Linux-AIO%201.9 |
| 21:51.31 | enouf | verblendet: PnP ISDN? |
| 21:51.35 | verblendet | /etc/network/interfaces still has a static entry for eth0 using a fixed ip |
| 21:51.42 | nohelphere | what im trying to do is forward a port from one system to another |
| 21:51.44 | verblendet | no, simple ethernetcard, local network |
| 21:51.47 | enouf | !tell verblendet -about z25 |
| 21:52.03 | pickcoder | Sysctl___: only perl 5.8.5 had mostly successful installs |
| 21:52.08 | basix | enouf, dondelelcaro, i've moved from one timezone to another. the clock still displays the old timezone. i want to reset the clock to the new timezone. if i change the timezone, will it screw up the timestamps on the files? it has happened before that i change the system time and on the next boot up some of the daemons complain of timestamps being in the future. |
| 21:52.15 | enouf | or edit the /interfaces file |
| 21:52.17 | verblendet | udev, argh, ok |
| 21:52.36 | pickcoder | 1.8 passed much better |
| 21:52.39 | verblendet | enouf, editong the interfaces file? to make what? it is still eth0 |
| 21:52.47 | nohelphere | im trying to forward connections on port 6666 to port 6667 to another server |
| 21:52.49 | verblendet | networking seems not to care at all about this settings |
| 21:52.49 | enouf | verblendet: nevermin them |
| 21:52.56 | enouf | verblendet: nevermind then |
| 21:53.05 | verblendet | ok, so udev is the troublemaker, as usual :( |
| 21:53.08 | enouf | it does - udev doesn't |
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| 21:53.24 | stew | !widbe |
| 21:53.29 | stew | !widbu |
| 21:53.29 | dpkg | When in doubt, blame udev! |
| 21:53.29 | enouf | basix: i can't say |
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| 21:53.35 | enouf | heh |
| 21:53.41 | verblendet | dpkg, exactly! |
| 21:53.41 | dpkg | verblendet: =) |
| 21:54.04 | nohelphere | i followed http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/73 |
| 21:54.07 | verblendet | since linux runs udev i feel so stupid, 10 years linux for nothing |
| 21:54.15 | nohelphere | and i think i might be forgettign something? |
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| 21:54.40 | nohelphere | i know *nothing* abotu iptables |
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| 21:55.29 | enouf | nohelphere: use your router and forget about iptables for now ;-) |
| 21:55.34 | basix | enouf, gworldclock isn't what i want :( it displays the timezone as a dialog box! :( |
| 21:55.39 | enouf | nohelphere: until you learn them better ;-) |
| 21:55.54 | nohelphere | enouf, my router fails |
| 21:55.59 | enouf | basix: oh well |
| 21:56.00 | pickcoder | Sysctl___: 1.8 compiles with the same errors |
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| 21:56.11 | nohelphere | if i wnat to froward a port i have to remove dmz and tehn reapply it once im done |
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| 21:56.17 | nohelphere | and disable it again fi i add a port |
| 21:56.18 | enouf | nohelphere: hrm, if mine did, i'd kick it to the curb ;-) |
| 21:56.26 | quitte | nohelphere: i like fwbuilder |
| 21:56.26 | enouf | DMZ? ugh |
| 21:56.30 | nohelphere | enouf, 2wire ftl |
| 21:56.39 | nohelphere | forwarding ports fails |
| 21:56.45 | nohelphere | so i sue dmz |
| 21:56.48 | nohelphere | use* |
| 21:57.10 | Sysctl___ | oh, sorry pickcoder, i didnt notice your comments |
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| 21:57.15 | enouf | nohelphere: there are many wrappers/helpers for iptables, as someone just pionted out |
| 21:57.17 | Sysctl___ | just havign a look |
| 21:57.32 | verblendet | ok, found the udev rule, i will change it and reboot then. |
| 21:57.42 | enouf | verblendet: well |
| 21:58.03 | enouf | verblendet: udevcontrol reload_rules and restarting networking should do |
| 21:58.14 | nohelphere | hmm |
| 21:58.16 | verblendet | but before i have another sill yproblem, my computer always hangs up no shutdown, it wont shutdown cleanly, it hangs on shutting down gnuobject manager etc |
| 21:58.17 | nohelphere | x forwarding ftw |
| 21:58.21 | enouf | verblendet: or, many times, you have to just kill udev and restart it |
| 21:58.30 | verblendet | enouf, yeah, but i have nfs home etc, i should reboot, thats the safer way i guess |
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| 21:59.08 | Sysctl___ | pickcoder: i also tried setting up a new xen dom with dist sarge and installing "liblinux-aio-perl", since etch took that package out, but it doesn't want to install... unmet depencies.... |
| 21:59.10 | verblendet | i also found that shutting down exim listener takes a lot of time, i guess its depending on my old network device? |
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| 21:59.28 | pickcoder | Sysctl___: let me look at the source |
| 21:59.34 | verblendet | (ip has changed because eth1 used some weird dhcp address) |
| 21:59.36 | nohelphere | D: no firewalls found |
| 21:59.41 | Sysctl___ | pickcoder : wow, thanks! |
| 21:59.47 | enouf | verblendet: you are throwing various very vague issues - and i have no idea where you're coming fom |
| 21:59.47 | Sysctl___ | i appreciate that |
| 21:59.50 | enouf | from |
| 22:00.19 | verblendet | i m just guessing, the problems on shutdown exists since i get an eth1 |
| 22:00.29 | myosound | yo guys; I have my resolutions set to 1280x1024 and 1024x768 in xorg.conf, but gnome will only let me pick 1280x800 and 1024x768 ??? |
| 22:00.36 | verblendet | but i see it often exim hangs if the network is not the same etc. |
| 22:00.51 | enouf | i have no idea .. there are atleast 100,000 things that could make your system not shutdsown properly |
| 22:01.02 | myosound | is there some other place that gnome pulls this info from? |
| 22:01.11 | enouf | and you type too f'n fast |
| 22:01.30 | verblendet | its always gnu object manager (what still i dont know it is good for) |
| 22:01.36 | n3kl | dondelelcaro: I am interested now. Can I ask you a couple questions? |
| 22:01.40 | quitte | yo ,mysound. check if hsync and vsync match your monitor |
| 22:01.50 | nohelphere | hmm |
| 22:01.53 | nohelphere | what to restart |
| 22:01.55 | verblendet | 2fast4u :) thats my nick on packet radio :)) |
| 22:02.15 | verblendet | ok, will try if problems will go away after reconfigure udev :)) |
| 22:02.16 | enouf | verblendet: well , for any specific help with any issue atleast do what "/msg dpkg ask" mentions |
| 22:02.21 | verblendet | thx and cya later |
| 22:02.39 | dondelelcaro | n3kl: what about? |
| 22:02.44 | nohelphere | ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere state NEW tcp dpt:6666 |
| 22:02.49 | nohelphere | hmmm |
| 22:02.53 | nohelphere | no forwards listed |
| 22:02.56 | nohelphere | and oen should be |
| 22:02.57 | n3kl | dondelelcaro: you |
| 22:03.05 | enouf | n3kl: yo, i spanked that weenie that edited our script ;-) .. (i think) |
| 22:03.16 | n3kl | enouf: link me! |
| 22:03.20 | dondelelcaro | n3kl: sure, you can ask me in /msg |
| 22:03.23 | n3kl | I can't ever remember that shiz |
| 22:03.33 | nohelphere | notes i need to restart soemthing related to iptables |
| 22:03.37 | nohelphere | yet idk how D: |
| 22:04.09 | nohelphere | i can't release or renew my IP |
| 22:04.16 | enouf | n3kl: few minutes |
| 22:04.23 | nohelphere | as my local IP is my public IP |
| 22:04.27 | nohelphere | as my router epicfails |
| 22:04.44 | myosound | quitte: I don't see them declared anywhere in xorg.conf |
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| 22:05.25 | myosound | quitte: its very strange because this is the working xorg.conf from the amd64 install on this machine |
| 22:05.31 | myosound | same gear and packages |
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| 22:06.45 | quitte | myosound: nvidia driver? |
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| 22:07.25 | jmallen2982 | anyone want to help me with a problem? |
| 22:07.48 | shze | i want to set a priority to my local repository in pbuilder, and i see the repo, but the priority does not change. why? |
| 22:08.34 | Sysctl___ | pickcoder: bear in mind, i dont actually know if thats the root of the problem. i dont know how familiar you are with mogilefs, but i can put files into it using their command line, just not via telnet or their pear library, so im speculating about what it could possibly be |
| 22:08.36 | quitte | myosound: have a look at man xorg.conf . the part about the monitor section |
| 22:08.53 | stew | shze: how are you changing the prioroty? |
| 22:09.06 | quitte | myosound: horizsync and vertrefresh |
| 22:09.07 | myosound | quitte: nope intel X3100 |
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| 22:09.20 | shze | stew: i added /etc/pbuilder/apt/preferences with pin 1001 |
| 22:09.38 | verblendet | yeah, it works, i have my eth0 back |
| 22:09.39 | shze | stew: and APTCONFDIR=/etc/pbuilder/apt/ in /etc/pbuilderrc |
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| 22:10.04 | verblendet | enouf, my guess was correct, after reconfigure eth1 back to eth0 and rebooting, and another shutdown test, it shuts down nicely :) |
| 22:10.08 | quitte | myosound: oh! i vaguely remember something weird about those |
| 22:10.12 | shze | stew: and i see my settings in pbuilder --login, but the priorities are not set |
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| 22:11.03 | stew | shze: can you make the same preferences work with the same sources on the local (non-chrooted) machine in order to verify that the things you are putting into preferences are valid at all? |
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| 22:12.33 | quitte | myosound: iirc there was a package to do some initialization, but i cant find it |
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| 22:13.01 | shze | stew: no, it does not work locally either |
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| 22:13.25 | blizzow | anyone here have a recommendation for the smallest/lightest mta available for etch? |
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| 22:14.28 | myosound | quitte: hmm that may be it then |
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| 22:14.36 | quitte | blizzow: nullmailer :P |
| 22:15.18 | myosound | quitte: this was working great before in the amd64 install; if the monitor was plugged into the external jack, it would switch over to 1280x1024 automatically |
| 22:15.47 | myosound | quitte: but I must have installed or configured it to do that on some long night and forget how :) |
| 22:15.56 | quitte | myosound: it was 915resolution iirc |
| 22:16.06 | myosound | quitte: YES! |
| 22:16.23 | quitte | but as i never had intel graphics... |
| 22:16.34 | Shai | Oh this is really cool. Running Debian on a VirtualPC on my Windows computer. |
| 22:17.26 | Shai | dances |
| 22:17.31 | myosound | quitte: well, for not having this card, you're doing a smashup job of reminding me how to configure it :) |
| 22:17.37 | n3kl | Shai: welcome to virtualization |
| 22:18.24 | Shai | n3kl - Now that I've got the wget and cron stuff worked out I want it running 24/7. Just don't want to have to have another computer running 24/7 other than my main computer. |
| 22:18.39 | pickcoder | Sysctl___: Linux::AIO was pulled because it wasn't maintained and it's very buggy |
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| 22:19.30 | quitte | i finally randomized the keys on my keyboard. so im lookinh for some idle chit chat |
| 22:19.40 | Sysctl___ | pickcoder: eh... brad fitzpatrick seems to suggest io::aio is fine, so maybe its something else entirely |
| 22:19.46 | Shai | ...bored? |
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| 22:20.13 | verblendet | never! what packages do i need to compile a properitary nvidia module? i need kernel source, kernel headers and ... ? |
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| 22:20.41 | quitte | verblendet: m-a prepare |
| 22:20.44 | Shai | verblendet wouldn't a pertinent README tell you? |
| 22:21.10 | Shai | Hey I may not know cron but damit I know READMEs |
| 22:21.10 | quitte | verblendet: module-assistant does it all for you |
| 22:21.27 | verblendet | Shai, i know i did it once, for my runnig kernel 2.6.18-6-686, i needed to download different packages before it gets completely all to recompile |
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| 22:21.39 | verblendet | i want to upgrade now |
| 22:21.51 | Shai | drinks more wine |
| 22:21.53 | quitte | Shai: i don't read unidentified scrolls |
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| 22:22.07 | verblendet | quitte, module-assistant? ok thx, let me try :) |
| 22:22.08 | Sysctl___ | shai: i recommend virtual box over virtualpc for desktop virtualization, if thats what you need. im my experience, its a bit faster with linux and has drivers for the underlying linux os |
| 22:22.27 | Shai | Sysctl___ Is it free? |
| 22:22.37 | Sysctl___ | shai: yes, unless for commercial use |
| 22:22.48 | quitte | verblendet: after the prepare run m-a a-i nvidia |
| 22:22.58 | Shai | Sysctl___ Thanks |
| 22:23.06 | Shai | passes Sysctl___ the bottle |
| 22:23.11 | Sysctl___ | shai: and there is also a cut down gpl version, if you need it for commercial reasons |
| 22:23.17 | verblendet | i first have to install module-assistant :) |
| 22:23.22 | Shai | Nah it's all personal |
| 22:23.25 | Sysctl___ | http://www.virtualbox.org/ |
| 22:23.28 | Shai | I got out of the IT business years ago. |
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| 22:23.40 | n3kl | Shai: what are you doing now? |
| 22:23.41 | Shai | I realized I liked it as a hobby, not a career. |
| 22:23.47 | quitte | Sysctl___: the vbox ose is free as in free |
| 22:23.51 | Shai | Going back to school....Pharmacy. |
| 22:24.08 | verblendet | Shai, best choice :) |
| 22:24.09 | elik | Shai, wow, that's a drastic change :) |
| 22:24.19 | Sysctl___ | quitte: is it now? my mistake |
| 22:24.25 | verblendet | (go back to school and become a non-it :) |
| 22:24.44 | Shai | Well, I will be starting the 25th. Been a property appraiser for the past 5 years. You can't believe how corrupt the entire business of real estate/mortgages etc is. |
| 22:24.48 | verblendet | i just begin to work in a gardeners shop :)) hahahaha |
| 22:24.49 | Shai | It's why I'm getting out. |
| 22:24.56 | xlotlu | can i trick xorg into thinking that a different mouse button was clicked when using a keyboard modifier? |
| 22:25.04 | quitte | Sysctl___: thats what you already said. just having a hard time typing fast |
| 22:25.07 | Sysctl___ | shai: I _can_ believe it! |
| 22:25.25 | jimisrvrox_ | hey guys Id like to speed up my debian system so when you guys have time id appreciate some help. |
| 22:25.38 | verblendet | speed up? :O |
| 22:25.41 | Shai | As an appraiser, if you're unwilling to commit fraud as a normal matter of business you don't have a job. It's that bad. |
| 22:25.42 | Sysctl___ | quitte: oh, i thought you might be pointing out a finer point in their license, ie. free as in bsd rather than gplv2 |
| 22:25.43 | Sysctl___ | haha |
| 22:25.51 | Shai | brb, gotta check my steaks |
| 22:25.54 | jwisher | hello my 1&1 dedicated server became non-accessible, so I have rebooted it to a recovery o/s, it is the same as the istalled o/s - debian etch x64. However I do not seem to have access to the hard disk, which is a software based raid 1 array. Is there a way to mount it? |
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| 22:26.28 | verblendet | jwisher, do you see your disks with fdisk -l ? |
| 22:26.48 | Sysctl___ | jwisher: please elaborate... what do you see |
| 22:27.26 | verblendet | mdadm is your friend here (imho), it tells you the status of your harddisk-soft-raid (man mdadm or get a howto from inet) |
| 22:27.56 | jwisher | yes it says "Disk /dev/sdb: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes" |
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| 22:28.35 | verblendet | nothing more? no partitions? |
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| 22:28.46 | jwisher | I will paste what it says to a pastebin |
| 22:28.52 | verblendet | ok |
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| 22:29.13 | Sysctl___ | jwisher, do you see anything when you type "mount" ? |
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| 22:30.19 | verblendet | jwisher, some good docs for recovering soft raids is on the ldp: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-RAID-0.4x-HOWTO-4.html |
| 22:30.45 | quitte | jwisher: is that 1&1.de? |
| 22:30.47 | jwisher | here is the output of fdisk -l and mount: http://paste.debian.net/14885/ |
| 22:30.56 | jwisher | yes it is 1und1.de |
| 22:31.25 | verblendet | hehe |
| 22:31.30 | jwisher | how did you know!! |
| 22:32.33 | quitte | jwisher: im living in dot de |
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| 22:33.22 | jwisher | ohh! well hmm I live in england but the same server was cheaper in germany than here! |
| 22:33.29 | quitte | jwisher: it is normal linux md raid. |
| 22:33.37 | Sysctl___ | jwisher: looks like you have nothing mounted. perhaps a good idea to run fsck on your drives... |
| 22:33.40 | verblendet | hmmmm, so check the raid status |
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| 22:34.04 | verblendet | imho you should run your fsck on the softraid, not mounted |
| 22:34.06 | jimisrvrox_ | hey guys Id like to speed up my debian system so when you guys have time id appreciate some help. |
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| 22:34.16 | verblendet | but not on the single devices and parts |
| 22:34.24 | quitte | jwisher: once mdadm scanned your partitions you should be able to access them as /dev/md* |
| 22:34.32 | verblendet | you will maybe get inconsitencies, 'inkonsistenzen' |
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| 22:35.24 | Flinx | !ask oneline |
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| 22:35.40 | Flinx | !ask radeon |
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| 22:35.55 | Flinx | !tell Flinx radeon |
| 22:36.08 | quitte | jimisrvrox_: if you have a more specific question - ask. otherwise you might want to try gentoo |
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| 22:37.28 | Flinx | hrm.. if I wanted to ask the dpkg bot a question how do I initiate it? |
| 22:37.46 | verblendet | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:38.10 | myosound | hmm, well 915resolution conflicts with xserver-xorg-video-intel in lenny now |
| 22:38.14 | myosound | so I'm stumped |
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| 22:38.46 | Flinx | kk |
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| 22:38.58 | quitte | myosound: #xorg |
| 22:39.01 | Flinx | I got to it by using !tell |
| 22:39.13 | verblendet | jwisher, after checking raid, you should check /var/log/messages on the raid device for errors on your harddisk, dma errors etc |
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| 22:39.39 | n3kl | I sure wish people would stop trying to log into my network! |
| 22:39.46 | irc | hey, what package do I install to get all the common libraries for gcc and all that? |
| 22:40.12 | quitte | Guest39442: build-essential |
| 22:40.34 | hramrach_ | Is there something like mdir for isofs? |
| 22:40.36 | jwisher | thanks for all you wrote, I was just reading that website. the problem isn't that I think the raid has an error, it is that someone with root somehow disabled ssh access after running apt-get update, and rebooting doesn't restore access.... |
| 22:40.59 | verblendet | check for /etc/nologin |
| 22:41.05 | hramrach_ | hmm, probably mount ; ls ; umount |
| 22:41.21 | quitte | hramrach_: no. mkisofs can make an iso from a directory, though |
| 22:41.24 | verblendet | so, can you ping your server ? |
| 22:41.26 | Flinx | thanks :D I bbl after reboot. |
| 22:41.31 | verblendet | after normal reboot? |
| 22:41.35 | jwisher | yes it pings and lighttpd runs also |
| 22:41.47 | verblendet | ah ok, co check for /etc/nologin on the mounted system |
| 22:42.04 | n3kl | Why is lenny using packages from sid for the nvidia driver? |
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| 22:42.35 | verblendet | jwisher, so you could use mdadm for assembling your raid , mount the / partition to somewhere and check /etc |
| 22:42.43 | jwisher | but how can I access the normal system if I cannot connect with ssh? well hmm 1&1 have something called "serial console" but I've never used it... I'll try that. |
| 22:42.48 | quitte | n3kl: it's not. maybe you have sid in sources.list? |
| 22:43.03 | n3kl | !nvidia lenny |
| 22:43.03 | dpkg | 1) Add a "deb-src ..." line for sid 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get build-dep nvidia-graphics-drivers 4) apt-get -b source nvidia-graphics-drivers 5) follow <nvidia_post_etch>, using "dpkg -i debfile.deb" instead of "apt-get install package" for nvidia-kernel-source and nvidia-glx |
| 22:43.11 | verblendet | check if there is a /etc/nologin on the mounted partition, and check if ssh is started in the proper runlevel |
| 22:43.25 | verblendet | @ jwisher |
| 22:43.40 | quitte | n3kl: ah. nvidia isn't in lenny, it seems |
| 22:44.00 | n3kl | quitte: do you know why? That seems sort of essential. |
| 22:44.15 | quitte | n3kl: bugs.debian.org |
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| 22:45.46 | Flinx | Hrmm.. |
| 22:46.28 | Flinx | I'm using the one-liner given to me by dpkg to install my Radeon X1300 and it says that the Xorg could not identify the card. |
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| 22:47.18 | Flinx | now its asking me for the bus Identifier. According to lspci its "01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV515 [Radeon X1300]" |
| 22:47.34 | Flinx | should I just put in the 01.00.0 or does it need the AGP: in front? |
| 22:48.14 | jimisrvrox_ | quitte: its really that for some reason debian seems to just eat my cpu resources like crazy..all I have open right now is Xchat, sys mon, and ice weasal(ff) and the minute I load a page it just goes right back up to 100% so idk how to get that back down...maybe end up getting another distro.. |
| 22:49.05 | quitte | jimisrvrox_: could it be flash? |
| 22:49.16 | jimisrvrox_ | possibly but even loading something like yahoo.com eats it pretty bad |
| 22:49.59 | jimisrvrox_ | ok just tried wikipedia.org doesnt have any flash on it and its hovering around 100% |
| 22:50.19 | quitte | jimisrvrox_: can you check with top what is causing that? |
| 22:50.42 | jimisrvrox_ | top is sys mon and thats what I have been watching |
| 22:51.33 | quitte | ok. so what process eats all your cpu cycles? |
| 22:51.41 | jimisrvrox_ | ive got a whole bunch of processes which are sleeping but I havent a clue as to what processes I can get rid of |
| 22:51.47 | jimisrvrox_ | hold on I will tell you |
| 22:52.40 | jimisrvrox_ | well it appears as though its just firefox doing all the munching.. |
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| 22:52.58 | jimisrvrox_ | keep in mind that this machine only has 196mb of ram in it and its a p3 700 and right now I cant upgrade it |
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| 22:53.46 | jimisrvrox_ | quitte: brb man I gots to go get some food..15-20mins |
| 22:53.59 | quitte | jimisrvrox_: on my system (amd64) its pretty much always flash. appears as npviewer.bin in top |
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| 22:54.36 | jimisrvrox_ | nope thats not my issue at all |
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| 22:55.41 | quitte | jimisrvrox_: yes. your hardware sucks |
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| 22:56.17 | jimisrvrox_ | exactly |
| 22:56.52 | verblendet | jimisrvrox_, to do daily work, most people dont need such a power machine :) a 486 is enough :) |
| 22:57.36 | elik | what is the best way to connect to an open session on a remote computer, with GUI |
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| 22:58.30 | jimisrvrox_ | so thats why i was thinking about just getitng a different distro hoping that it would decrease the strain on my cpu |
| 22:58.43 | jimisrvrox_ | heh verb..486..funny |
| 22:58.50 | quitte | jimisrvrox_: sounds like you need more ram |
| 22:58.54 | verblendet | jimisrvrox_, yes, todays distros are fuly overload |
| 22:59.10 | verblendet | more ram is a good idea, 90% of performance is made from more ram :) |
| 22:59.24 | verblendet | but old ram is expensive and rare :( |
| 22:59.27 | jimisrvrox_ | ok but 196 is what I have to work with right now |
| 22:59.30 | quitte | in the meantime a more lightweight webbrowser should do |
| 22:59.33 | jimisrvrox_ | youve got to be kidding! |
| 22:59.52 | verblendet | jimisrvrox_, disable all unneeded services |
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| 23:00.10 | jimisrvrox_ | ok but verb I havent a clue of what I can and shouldnt disable being a linux n00b. |
| 23:00.10 | quitte | jimisrvrox_: is that etch or lenny? |
| 23:00.13 | verblendet | or uninstall, like bittorrent tracker etc |
| 23:00.13 | jimisrvrox_ | etch |
| 23:00.26 | verblendet | this will speed up at least boot-time |
| 23:00.33 | quitte | jimisrvrox_: do you need flash? |
| 23:00.37 | jimisrvrox_ | yes |
| 23:01.01 | verblendet | but 196mb is ok, i run a linux on a 486 with 4mb :) okok, that was kernel 1.2.13 :)) |
| 23:01.02 | quitte | ok so not dillo |
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| 23:02.35 | Flinx | !dpkg |
| 23:02.35 | dpkg | hmm... dpkg is the program used by debian to install and remove packages, "man dpkg". Also ask me about <apt howto>. The main info bot in #debian is also called dpkg; ask me about <dpkgbot>. |
| 23:02.52 | sladi | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:03.02 | Flinx | !dpkgbot |
| 23:03.03 | dpkg | Please visit http://wiki.debian.org/IRC/DpkgBot to learn how to effectively search the factoids database for FAQ, and not flood in the channel with !tell <who> about <what>. Also see <msg the bot>. We ask that you learn to search for yourself first, unless it is a specific problem. Many questions are asked repeatedly, and the factoid database can be of great help to you. Ask me about <search dpkg>. |
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| 23:04.52 | Viking667 | maen all. |
| 23:05.18 | Viking667 | was there a reason given for niklauz' banning? |
| 23:05.21 | quitte | isn't there a nice howto for running a desktop on very low ram? |
| 23:05.28 | biopyte | folks, bluetooth/wifi problem on my lenny-laptop here. turning on bluetooth kills the wifi connection. even turning off bluetooth again, does not recover wifi function, but the box has to be rebooted. anybody has an idea how bluetooth and wifi can peacefully coexist? |
| 23:05.56 | Viking667 | quitte: usage of blackbox/fluxbox, stuff like that. |
| 23:06.19 | Viking667 | quitte: how low are we talking? 128MB? 32MB? |
| 23:06.32 | quitte | Viking667: 196 |
| 23:07.10 | quitte | Im thinking about recommending xfce |
| 23:07.12 | Shai | Alright, dinner was good! |
| 23:07.14 | sladi | quitte: I doubt swapping is the problem |
| 23:07.16 | Viking667 | just as a side point, that's 196, not 192? |
| 23:07.21 | quitte | and a run of debfoster |
| 23:07.32 | Viking667 | xfce is good, but it wants probably 256MB to fly. |
| 23:07.40 | Sling | probably 60mb video ram |
| 23:07.49 | Shai | <256MB go with fluxbox |
| 23:07.50 | Viking667 | yeah, that's the figure I have here, Sling |
| 23:07.53 | quitte | Viking667: jimisrvrox_ said 196 |
| 23:08.08 | Viking667 | it's just a strange number, is all. |
| 23:08.58 | jimisrvrox_ | yes I know its a strange # |
| 23:09.02 | sladi | wmii, dwm are fine too |
| 23:09.04 | jimisrvrox_ | but thats all the SD ram I had |
| 23:09.05 | quitte | yes. i stopped caring about mibi vs mega |
| 23:09.05 | Shai | uses fluxbox on all 4 of his piii laptops |
| 23:09.17 | jimisrvrox_ | currently running gnome |
| 23:09.28 | quitte | Viking667: windowmaker? |
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| 23:09.46 | quitte | Viking667: after all he called himself noob |
| 23:09.48 | Viking667 | I haven't run WMaker for too long to know. |
| 23:10.16 | Viking667 | I've used everything from ratpoison to kde, so I've had a reasonable tyre bashing. |
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| 23:10.58 | quitte | aewm++ but getting it set up is a pain |
| 23:11.29 | Shai | xfce is good for <512MB |
| 23:11.31 | quitte | i heavily tend to recommend wmaker |
| 23:12.13 | Shai | how do you debian folks feel about ubuntu? |
| 23:12.48 | quitte | Shai: too many opinions. dont ask |
| 23:13.02 | Shai | ok |
| 23:13.15 | Shai | good? bad? |
| 23:13.21 | Shai | snicker |
| 23:13.23 | rahul | it's not debian |
| 23:13.26 | rahul | that's what we think about it. |
| 23:13.43 | Shai | It is debian.....kind of bloated....great for beginners. |
| 23:13.48 | rahul | no |
| 23:13.51 | Shai | yes |
| 23:13.59 | Viking667 | I actually really LIKE ubuntu, but there's no doubt it's not debian. |
| 23:14.03 | rahul | Shai: is SuSE redhat? |
| 23:14.06 | Viking667 | ... just _based_ on debian |
| 23:14.11 | Shai | I dunno, never used it. |
| 23:14.13 | rahul | it's not even based on debian |
| 23:14.28 | rahul | for application packages, they fork debian's packages |
| 23:14.40 | Shai | The underlying OS is debian. What one learns in Ubuntu one can easily port to Debian. |
| 23:14.43 | rahul | for anything that's custom to debian, they make their own |
| 23:14.46 | rahul | Shai: not true |
| 23:14.48 | rahul | not at all |
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| 23:15.17 | b52 | hey guys, i want to setup vsftpd to let my www-data user edit the fils in /var/www |
| 23:15.23 | jimisrvrox_ | quitte: downloading wmaker...brb food..15-20mins |
| 23:15.28 | Viking667 | it's been my experience that quite a bit of what happens in Debian can be transposed directly into ubuntu without too many issues. |
| 23:15.29 | b52 | but i get always a list error |
| 23:15.33 | Viking667 | Going the other way though, ... yeah. |
| 23:15.52 | Shai | Well let me say I am by no means an "expert" when it comes to linux....poweruser.....maybe. I think ubuntu is a great way for someone to learn linux. |
| 23:15.53 | jwisher | so ssh still isn't working, I booted the livecd, mounted the raid, and checked for /etc/nologin but that doesn't exist. what else can cause ssh to stop working after apt-get update? |
| 23:15.57 | rahul | Viking667: people who come here and lie about using debian when they're using ubuntu usually end up screwing up their system |
| 23:16.04 | Viking667 | *nod* |
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| 23:16.21 | rahul | Viking667: because things are set up very differently. someone who knows debian will give an ubuntu user bad advice. |
| 23:16.38 | Shai | It is easy enough to "just work" and complex enough for someone to get the much needed knowledge and expertise to move on to something that better suits their needs if they have such needs. |
| 23:16.46 | Viking667 | 's why I always mention I'm using Ubuntu, that way I don't get my head bitten off for exactly what you've just said. |
| 23:17.09 | Viking667 | I'm lucky - here, Ubuntu "Just Works(TM)". |
| 23:17.09 | rahul | if you have a question about ubuntu, don't ask in #debian |
| 23:17.15 | katullus | den wein den man mit augen trinkt |
| 23:17.15 | Viking667 | quite. |
| 23:17.19 | rahul | we have no clue what they do |
| 23:18.10 | shze | thanks, stew, my pin was not correct. works now. |
| 23:18.19 | quitte | i could join the narration of ubuntu exeriences... |
| 23:18.26 | Shai | Whatever it is I believe Ubuntu is an excellent starting point for someone getting into Linux especially the debian flavor. |
| 23:18.29 | wash | hi all! i want to use python2.5 (for trac) with pyPgSql but can't figure out how to install it for 2.5. how can i remove 2.4 completely? (apt-get remove python and python2.4 doesnt do the trick) |
| 23:18.42 | Shai | I was really impressed with it. |
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| 23:18.49 | r3dd0 | hello |
| 23:19.07 | Shai | ...having struggled with linux for years of periodic use here there and yonder. |
| 23:19.17 | r3dd0 | how can i update my adduser to 3.103 on debian etch? |
| 23:19.23 | quitte | very nice defaults. then you try to do something unusual.... |
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| 23:19.55 | Shai | quitte very true but, then that can be said of many linux flavors these days. |
| 23:20.10 | Viking667 | ooooo yeah. |
| 23:20.12 | rahul | Shai: which is why we're in #debian and not in the other channels |
| 23:20.27 | Viking667 | I'm having small issues with a Mandriva install at the moment... not that it's relevant to here. |
| 23:20.34 | Shai | Question: Would/could your mother run Ubuntu or Debian better? |
| 23:20.41 | rahul | Shai: neither |
| 23:20.42 | r3dd0 | I've got a packet which need 3.103 but the newest version i can install is 3.102 |
| 23:20.48 | rahul | either one would be a disaster |
| 23:21.07 | Shai | out of the box office productivity/web surfing? |
| 23:21.13 | Viking667 | My wife runs Kubuntu, without many issues. Celeron 600, 384MB memory, not sure how much swap. |
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| 23:21.21 | rahul | Shai: for that, either one is the same |
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| 23:21.39 | Viking667 | General surfing, email, notewriting, simple calendar app... database for her books |
| 23:21.40 | Sysctl___ | your mother could run ubuntu better, since its debian but with all the focus on a nice desktop |
| 23:21.45 | Shai | Viking....oooh kubuntu on 384MB.....hows the performance? |
| 23:21.49 | rahul | Sysctl___: not at all |
| 23:21.54 | Viking667 | slow, but workable. |
| 23:21.58 | rahul | Sysctl___: debian has the same desktop as ubuntu |
| 23:21.59 | Shai | I'll side with Sysctl___ |
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| 23:22.18 | Shai | Viking667 you should give xfce a try..... |
| 23:22.19 | rahul | ubuntu GETS its desktop from debian |
| 23:22.20 | Flinx | After adding Etch backports and trying to install ntfs-3g I get a broken dependency " ntfs-3g: Depends: libfuse2 (>= 2.6) but 2.5.3-4.4 is to be installed" |
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| 23:22.31 | Viking667 | Shai: I've got xfce4 here, on a NetBSD machine. |
| 23:22.36 | Flinx | is there a way to fix that? |
| 23:23.01 | Viking667 | anyhow, I was actually here to ask why niklaus was actually banned. |
| 23:23.01 | Sysctl___ | rahul: debian leaves a few things out of its installer... ubuntu have tweaked the desktop, things like wifi support out of the box, etc |
| 23:23.12 | rahul | Flinx: maybe try aptitude? |
| 23:23.12 | Shai | yep yep |
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| 23:23.26 | Sysctl___ | ubuntu is _not_ just debian with desktop selected in the netinstaller |
| 23:23.33 | Shai | although I will say I was impressed with Debian printer support these days. |
| 23:23.37 | Maulkin | Flinx: you'll need to backport libfuse2 |
| 23:24.06 | Shai | ...greatly improved. |
| 23:24.06 | rahul | AFAICT, debian printer support has gotten worse |
| 23:24.18 | Maulkin | Viking667: ask #debian-ops, or the person who banned them |
| 23:24.19 | Flinx | Maulkin, so does that mean I should use dpkg instead of apt-get? |
| 23:24.21 | Sysctl___ | rahul: don't get me wrong, i prefer debian, but only because i like setting things up myself... |
| 23:24.34 | Maulkin | Flinx: erm... it means it's quite complicated. |
| 23:24.35 | rahul | or maybe it's just cups being shitty compared to using the old print filters |
| 23:24.41 | quitte | rahul: did printerconf stop working? |
| 23:24.47 | rahul | Sysctl___: I prefer debian because I like having things set up for me |
| 23:24.48 | Shai | And there is something to be said for setting things up one's self....especially if they break in the future. |
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| 23:25.10 | rahul | quitte: I dunno. I've seen what cups does because it's supposed to be "better" |
| 23:25.15 | Flinx | Maulkin, thanks, anyways, I might just download the .deb packages. |
| 23:25.35 | rahul | quitte: I'm sticking with printerconf next time I get a printer |
| 23:25.54 | quitte | for me printer support is running printerconf and thats it |
| 23:26.02 | Shai | rahul....I remember when setting up a printer could be an all day affair.....I setup a printer on the fly the other day...5 minutes....it was sweet and impressed me greatly. |
| 23:26.02 | Maulkin | Flinx: I would reccomend it, you may end up with really broken packages that way |
| 23:26.14 | Shai | ....all gui of course. |
| 23:26.16 | Sysctl___ | *sigh* |
| 23:26.18 | Flinx | hrm.. |
| 23:26.18 | rahul | Shai: wow. 5 years ago it used to be easy |
| 23:26.58 | rahul | ok, I think the rain has stopped |
| 23:27.01 | Shai | Maybe I've gotten dumber and you smarter or visa versa over the years? |
| 23:27.03 | Shai | ;) |
| 23:27.19 | rahul | better get to chinatown to meet my parents |
| 23:27.25 | rahul | waves |
| 23:27.27 | Shai | goodluck |
| 23:27.42 | Flinx | it looks like I can just use Synaptic to force the 2.7 version.. |
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| 23:28.07 | Shai | Just so you guys know I wasn't looking to start anything. Just curious how the deb community viewed ubuntu. I think it can only help debian. |
| 23:29.32 | quitte | Shai: or it could create a flame war. i was expecting that |
| 23:30.18 | Shai | All I know is through Ubuntu and Debian I've been impressed by some of the advances in Linux lately. It's like it's on the brink of being mainstreamyness.... |
| 23:30.42 | tokyoeye | oooh i was just about to start a discussion on zfs. better stop it at the start he? |
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| 23:31.34 | katullus | steig, o mutter aller schmerzen |
| 23:31.37 | quitte | Shai: thought so, too. then i wanted to rotate a picture in ooo writer.... |
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| 23:32.54 | quitte | Shai: may i invite you to #trivia for some idle chatting and quizzing? |
| 23:32.58 | Shai | quitte - yeah...getting away from things that "just work" can be a bit gruelling to "make work". |
| 23:33.14 | Shai | quitte sure |
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| 23:38.47 | tokyoeye | ao how does opensolaris' pkg add up to debian's pkg-get? and how about the kernel of the os? |
| 23:39.03 | Viking667 | shrugs to both. |
| 23:39.24 | Viking667 | I find that pkg under solaris is ... weird. Those package names are so screwed. |
| 23:39.40 | Viking667 | but that's Solaris, not OpenSolaris. |
| 23:39.52 | tokyoeye | Viking667, so true! |
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| 23:41.13 | tokyoeye | Viking667, but the image-update feature is pretty cool; get a new env hat you van boot |
| 23:42.21 | Viking667 | ... uhm, sorry, try that again? |
| 23:42.27 | tokyoeye | so no more grub-shite; it gets you a clone of your current env |
| 23:42.32 | Viking667 | hat you van boot? |
| 23:42.55 | Viking667 | "that you can boot"/ |
| 23:43.07 | tokyoeye | Viflux, s/hat/that/ |
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| 23:46.15 | tokyoeye | Viking667, i'll try that again; i think it's great to create a clone of your current installation, and upgrade on a new mount |
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| 23:48.44 | lithophyte | I'm bored |
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| 23:49.27 | tokyoeye | Viking667, so like a dist-upgrade on a chroot that you can boot after the upgrade (grub auto-updated), and the possibiblity to go back to your previous os image in case anything went wrong) |
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| 23:51.59 | jwisher | is it better to use useradd or adduser? |
| 23:52.01 | pingouin | a little of topic....someone is good with flac setting ? |
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| 23:53.14 | Led_Zeppelin | Is there a place or cache Debian keeps of the network devices? |
| 23:53.34 | Led_Zeppelin | I am on a Virtual box, and everything I change something on the NIC. the ethX value is rising, X=7 now |
| 23:53.36 | Flinx | is there a safe way to upgrade to a >=2.6.20 Kernel? |
| 23:53.37 | Led_Zeppelin | I have eth7 :-( |
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| 23:54.32 | lithophyte | Flinx: just compile it with make-kpkg? |
| 23:55.09 | Flinx | does that also download them? |
| 23:55.28 | Flinx | s/them/it |
| 23:56.17 | Flinx | Google is not helping >.< |
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| 23:56.36 | lithophyte | I made my own scripts to download the latest kernel and build them with make-kpkg |
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| 23:56.44 | Flinx | ah |
| 23:56.49 | Flinx | fair enough. |
| 23:56.56 | Flinx | I'll dig around somemore. |
| 23:57.26 | lithophyte | it's messy but gets the job done... meh VER=$(finger user@kernel.org | grep "latest stable" | cut -d : -f 2) |
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