| 00:00.08 | abrotman | http://wiki.debian.org/Xen#head-21b571d5f81b6a36a5af19cfc7439045c3fb5b20 |
| 00:00.09 | abrotman | that might help ? |
| 00:00.12 | PhrkOnLsh | abrotman: defines and types related to hypervisor and guest and domid and stuff like that |
| 00:00.21 | PhrkOnLsh | I can't copy verbose, as I'm on two consoles atm |
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| 00:00.53 | abrotman | PhrkOnLsh: you're still using the .run from nvidia.com ? |
| 00:00.58 | PhrkOnLsh | yep |
| 00:02.41 | abrotman | i'd think that isn't a great plan .. maybe you need to put the variable in the script? (maybe ask #nvidia about the .run installer) |
| 00:02.51 | lymeca | abrotman: Ahh, no dom0 in lenny yet. Didn't think so. That's too bad. |
| 00:02.56 | skfarek | dmoerner: are you still there? |
| 00:03.17 | abrotman | lymeca: that's okay .. i have no idea what you're talking about :) |
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| 00:03.56 | lymeca | abrotman: lenny cannot be a host OS basically, without a lot of hacking and ingenuity. Not with Xen, anyway. |
| 00:04.08 | abrotman | oh .. that seems sad |
| 00:04.19 | enouf | lymeca: i don't think there's dom0 fully in the kernel yet ,.. i forget though offhand |
| 00:04.27 | skfarek | i found out why i got that error, ok...that because of autotools problems, now i use scons, how to make a deb depended on scons? |
| 00:04.38 | enouf | erm /upstream/ |
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| 00:05.43 | lymeca | enouf: Well the paravirt_ops for dom0 isn't done yet in the Linux kernel. It should be there in full for domU guests though. Regardless, Debian will likely package a dom0 linux-image for lenny using patches and whatnot, and I was wondering if that was done yet. |
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| 00:07.05 | enouf | lymeca: ok .. well, here's a nice video http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2008/debconf8/low/686_Virtualisation_in_Debian_-_Present_and_future.ogg |
| 00:07.49 | PhrkOnLsh | abrotman: seems #nvidia has nothing to say of the matter |
| 00:07.53 | lymeca | enouf: Cool, I'll check it out, but it might not be 100% what I'm interested in because it says 686? All my servers are amd64 on hosts and guests. |
| 00:08.11 | abrotman | PhrkOnLsh: you mean they don't know? or they're all sleeping? |
| 00:08.17 | enouf | lymeca: that's just the filename, nothing to do with arch |
| 00:08.43 | enouf | lymeca: climb into parent dir, you'll see what i mean |
| 00:08.50 | lymeca | OKay cool, I'll check it out. I cant wait for paravirt_ops to support Xen dom0 in the upstream kernel though. |
| 00:09.11 | lymeca | enouf: I do see, that's a funny coincidence. |
| 00:09.23 | enouf | i agree ;-) |
| 00:09.24 | diabel- | Have someone known curl? |
| 00:09.31 | PhrkOnLsh | abrotman: the latter |
| 00:09.35 | grul | noone has ever known curl |
| 00:09.44 | diabel- | Oo |
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| 00:09.47 | enouf | !anyone use curl |
| 00:09.48 | dpkg | No, no one uses curl, not even the people who use it. |
| 00:09.50 | PhrkOnLsh | abrotman: adding the IGNORE... to the .run via vim fries the file's checksums |
| 00:10.00 | diabel- | :| |
| 00:10.05 | diabel- | maccabre |
| 00:10.08 | grul | diabel-, try wget |
| 00:10.19 | abrotman | PhrkOnLsh: would you like to hear my true feelings about nvidia? |
| 00:10.24 | enouf | haha |
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| 00:11.29 | PhrkOnLsh | abrotman:I'd rather just have a working 3d drivers :) |
| 00:11.45 | enouf | use windows |
| 00:11.46 | jsubl2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:12.07 | enouf | and thank nvidia |
| 00:12.12 | PhrkOnLsh | I'd rather just have a working 3d drivers in linux :) |
| 00:12.15 | abrotman | PhrkOnLsh: what if you leave off the export .. like "INGORE.....=2 ./nvidia.runcrappstuff |
| 00:12.33 | enouf | then tell your SO to smack you upside the head for buying crap |
| 00:12.43 | diabel- | grul: noo, I must complete the form at the page, but I don't known curl :( |
| 00:12.54 | PhrkOnLsh | abrotman: yeah, but the installer does crc and md5 sums of itself |
| 00:13.18 | abrotman | i didn't mean to edit the script |
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| 00:13.20 | PhrkOnLsh | ooooh |
| 00:13.23 | PhrkOnLsh | lemme see |
| 00:13.27 | grul | i've used curl once, but i just used it for logging into a network at school to get the internets |
| 00:14.17 | PhrkOnLsh | abrotman: ne va pas |
| 00:14.20 | webmind-org | !lenny |
| 00:14.20 | dpkg | well, lenny is the codename for the next Debian release, currently testing. To upgrade to lenny, ask me about <etch->lenny>. Lenny is the binoculars. Lenny will be known as version 5.0 and the schedule is set for release in Sept 2008 (but ask me about <wwlr>). A <moving target>. See also <testing> and <lenny status>. |
| 00:14.35 | abrotman | PhrkOnLsh: it didn't go? |
| 00:14.50 | PhrkOnLsh | abrotman: nope, same errors |
| 00:15.40 | abrotman | i could try to curse in spanish .. but it would look silly :) |
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| 00:16.40 | jair | hello hello masters, I am having problem with my ddclient :( I am using the version that comes with debian etch. |
| 00:16.44 | Alumin | I have known curl...in the biblical sense |
| 00:17.07 | webmind-org | I just want to tell, i'm running LENNY for a vew weeks now on my server, and it's running BIGTIME ! Thanks to all of you. |
| 00:17.21 | Maliuta | Alumin: you got fucked by it? |
| 00:17.33 | abrotman | uh? |
| 00:17.40 | Alumin | Maliuta: your subtlety is impeccable |
| 00:17.54 | jair | it has been working fine all this year and since the last r4 update on etch, I get an error: Aug 25 19:15:55 rhenan ddclient[6701]: WARNING: caught SIGTERM; exiting |
| 00:17.57 | jair | Aug 25 19:15:56 rhenan ddclient[6709]: WARNING: caught SIGTERM; exiting |
| 00:18.06 | jair | I keep getting that message :( |
| 00:18.11 | Maliuta | Alumin: like a sledge hammer :) |
| 00:18.15 | Alumin | heh |
| 00:18.19 | p1ngp0ng | if i got a system with no GUI on it, what would i need? Xorg,XFCE and xbase clients is what i've gathered so far |
| 00:18.22 | jair | I tried " apt-get install --reinstall" and nothing |
| 00:18.36 | abrotman | p1ngp0ng: aptitude install gdm xorg xfce4 |
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| 00:18.55 | p1ngp0ng | abrotman: gdm? |
| 00:19.00 | p1ngp0ng | abrotman: whats that |
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| 00:19.16 | abrotman | p1ngp0ng: apt-cache show gdm |
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| 00:20.58 | p1ngp0ng | thanks |
| 00:21.55 | p1ngp0ng | btw, anything i need to know regarding installing GUI on a leased dedicated managed server? :P |
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| 00:22.20 | p1ngp0ng | like, it's not possible etc hehe |
| 00:23.09 | abrotman | like ... depends on your server |
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| 00:24.12 | p1ngp0ng | well, according to my hardware, it should work. |
| 00:24.58 | webmind-org | p1ngp0ng Just do it. apt-get install gdm xorg gnome iceweasel |
| 00:25.07 | p1ngp0ng | im just not sure if i've installed everything i need. i got xorg,xfce, xbase clients/fonts and gdm. but i dont see a xorg.conf file. |
| 00:25.28 | p1ngp0ng | i dont want gnome tho. do i need gnome for it to work? |
| 00:26.20 | webmind-org | No, you may type in a gray screen. |
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| 00:27.24 | abrotman | p1ngp0ng: uhm .. i already gave you the command |
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| 00:28.19 | p1ngp0ng | yes. but what do i do afterwords? i assume i have to configure xserver from shell, and launch it in the background and connect via vnc or something |
| 00:28.26 | p1ngp0ng | i guess im fishing for a little howto here |
| 00:29.16 | abrotman | /etc/init.d/gdm restart |
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| 00:30.23 | p1ngp0ng | hmm allright i try that. but i wont be able to view anything from putty tho would i |
| 00:30.38 | p1ngp0ng | i have to configure xorg.conf or something for vnc. |
| 00:30.56 | webmind-org | wine ? |
| 00:31.16 | p1ngp0ng | but i have to get into x first |
| 00:31.30 | webmind-org | !tell p1ngp0ng about xvnc |
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| 00:31.46 | webmind-org | !tell p1ngp0ng about vnc |
| 00:31.54 | p1ngp0ng | ^^ |
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| 00:33.25 | p1ngp0ng | so i need to setup xvncserver on my leased server, then startx and vnx from my box here to the leased one |
| 00:33.32 | p1ngp0ng | vnc* |
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| 00:33.58 | p1ngp0ng | am i on to something? if not feel free to tell me to fuck off :P |
| 00:34.27 | webmind-org | i think you're doin well. |
| 00:34.51 | webmind-org | but why not gnome or kdm ? you can play games tooo. |
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| 00:35.34 | p1ngp0ng | well, its a leased server, and i dont need alot of things for the gui |
| 00:35.36 | hogdog | not the fun kinda games though ... more the 'destroy the bloat' games |
| 00:35.46 | p1ngp0ng | and also, its just a fun little project i decided to venture on :P |
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| 00:37.13 | dcestari | anyone knows about a good bind9 tutorial? |
| 00:37.24 | Sling | how about the bind book from o'reilly |
| 00:37.31 | jair | does anyone here use ddclient :( |
| 00:37.37 | Sling | dhclient? |
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| 00:37.47 | jair | ddclient |
| 00:37.57 | Sling | oh, no |
| 00:37.58 | webmind-org | dcestari, just a howto ......... |
| 00:38.19 | dcestari | webmind-org: well, that works |
| 00:38.34 | jair | perl, script that connects to dynamic dns sites and update the external address to a hostname. |
| 00:39.11 | webmind-org | check http://www.webmind.org/page.php?4 |
| 00:39.23 | Cholito | when I try to start mt-daapd I get this error: mt-daapd: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libavcodec.so.51: undefined symbol: NeAACDecSetConfiguration |
| 00:39.29 | jair | I am having problems with it, I keep getting this error => ddclient[6709]: WARNING: caught SIGTERM; exiting |
| 00:39.30 | Sling | jair : sounds like a dirty fix |
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| 00:40.01 | Sling | checked syslog? |
| 00:40.04 | j4cbo | how do i make a change to /etc/timezone take effect? |
| 00:40.44 | webmind-org | j4cbo, you mean save the system time ? |
| 00:41.34 | j4cbo | webmind-org: change the time zone of the system time |
| 00:41.39 | jair | j4cbo: check this --> |
| 00:41.44 | jair | j4cbo: check this --> http://www.wikihow.com/Change-the-Timezone-in-Linux |
| 00:42.07 | jair | j4cbo: I did this and it simply works :) |
| 00:42.30 | jair | !ddclient |
| 00:43.22 | p1ngp0ng | how do i remove gnome and its dependensies? i've tried apt-get remove gnome, but that didnt work. |
| 00:43.36 | p1ngp0ng | purge didnt eighter |
| 00:43.59 | j4cbo | jair: ah, gotcha |
| 00:44.00 | j4cbo | thanks :) |
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| 00:44.14 | Sling | aptitude purge gnome gnome-core gnome-destop-environment |
| 00:45.04 | Sling | apt-get is no good at those things |
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| 00:45.05 | abrotman | that only works if you used aptitude to install them |
| 00:45.19 | PhrkOnLsh | ok, so I got nvidia installed |
| 00:45.30 | p1ngp0ng | oh |
| 00:45.52 | PhrkOnLsh | but more bullshit I don't need to deal with... apt keeps telling me that dpkg is giving out errors like "dpendtry<=4" |
| 00:45.59 | PhrkOnLsh | google has no solution to this |
| 00:46.15 | PhrkOnLsh | and I can't install my wireless drivers, or other .26 modules as a result |
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| 00:46.37 | orzo | i've used apt-get for years, what would aptitude do for me |
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| 00:47.07 | hogdog | orzo it properly purges dependencies that aren't required by any other packages |
| 00:48.16 | orzo | apt-get seems to tell me about auto-installed packages and how to remove them |
| 00:48.25 | p1ngp0ng | so how do i remove gnome then? |
| 00:48.26 | Cholito | anyone how to solve this? 'mt-daapd: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libavcodec.so.51: undefined symbol: NeAACDecSetConfiguration' |
| 00:48.49 | abrotman | PhrkOnLsh: what is your wifi card? |
| 00:48.57 | abrotman | PhrkOnLsh: aren't you on lenny? |
| 00:49.21 | PhrkOnLsh | abrotman: rtl8185, I use ndiswrapper cause Realtek faggots won't update drivers from .22... I'm on sid |
| 00:49.30 | abrotman | hey hey .. language |
| 00:49.39 | PhrkOnLsh | sorry, but I'm mad at them |
| 00:49.55 | abrotman | !rtl8185 |
| 00:49.55 | dpkg | [rtl-wifi] the Realtek Linux wireless driver, forked from the rtl8180-sa2400 project. Supports RTL8180, RTL8185 and RTL8187 chipsets. RTL8187 support included in mainline kernel from 2.6.23, "modprobe rtl8187". All other chipsets or older kernels require driver compilation, see http://rtl-wifi.sf.net/wiki/Installing#Debian.2FUbuntu for instructions. Revision 67 fails to compile on i386/2.6.18, check out r62 instead. <rtl-wifi 2.6.24> |
| 00:49.57 | PhrkOnLsh | I and everone I know applicable has mailed them and all we get is a cold sholder |
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| 00:50.10 | PhrkOnLsh | those don't build on any kernel I've ever had, abrotman,dpkg |
| 00:50.14 | Waddo | http://dragcave.net/viewdragon/evnp |
| 00:50.19 | abrotman | Waddo: go away |
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| 00:50.26 | abrotman | PhrkOnLsh: so it seems to imply |
| 00:50.33 | Waddo | no |
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| 00:51.20 | abrotman | PhrkOnLsh: i think i'd buy a new wifi card :) |
| 00:51.23 | PhrkOnLsh | abrotman: ok, so now aptitude is telling me it can't configure libxine1-bin cause it says "triggers-awaited" |
| 00:51.29 | PhrkOnLsh | abrotman: internal card on laptop :) |
| 00:51.32 | abrotman | PhrkOnLsh: it says there is a way for a .24 kernel |
| 00:51.37 | abrotman | PhrkOnLsh: mini-pci can be replaced |
| 00:51.43 | PhrkOnLsh | hmm |
| 00:51.58 | PhrkOnLsh | Well, I still need to install things :) |
| 00:52.01 | abrotman | i've thought about replacing mine with a newer one that does 11g .. but it's really not worth it |
| 00:52.07 | abrotman | PhrkOnLsh: paste all the output in a pastebin |
| 00:52.15 | abrotman | PhrkOnLsh: or try dpkg --configure -a first |
| 00:52.30 | PhrkOnLsh | abrotman: yeah, tried that |
| 00:52.34 | PhrkOnLsh | lemme pastebin... |
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| 00:54.10 | PhrkOnLsh | abrotman: |
| 00:54.16 | PhrkOnLsh | damnit |
| 00:54.17 | PhrkOnLsh | brb |
| 00:54.20 | abrotman | heh |
| 00:54.37 | PhrkOnLsh | http://pastebin.ca/1184820 |
| 00:54.38 | PhrkOnLsh | there |
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| 00:54.48 | swatter | 0793 the thing threads buy you is that you don't have to write the inversion of control yourself when doing IO. If you can contort the application to work via HTTP, you can most certainly do it with, e.g., IOLib. The webserver doesn't make programming the interaction any easier unless it's got something like continuations... But, again, continuations would work just as well with iolib. |
| 00:54.53 | swatter | 0422 the thing threads buy you is that you don't have to write the inversion of control yourself when doing IO. If you can contort the application to work via HTTP, you can most certainly do it with, e.g., IOLib. The webserver doesn't make programming the interaction any easier unless it's got something like continuations... But, again, continuations would work just as well with iolib. |
| 00:54.54 | PhrkOnLsh | X->tty clipboarding doesn't work :B |
| 00:54.57 | PhrkOnLsh | now brb again |
| 00:54.58 | swatter | 0347 the thing threads buy you is that you don't have to write the inversion of control yourself when doing IO. If you can contort the application to work via HTTP, you can most certainly do it with, e.g., IOLib. The webserver doesn't make programming the interaction any easier unless it's got something like continuations... But, again, continuations would work just as well with iolib. |
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| 00:55.03 | swatter | 0368 the thing threads buy you is that you don't have to write the inversion of control yourself when doing IO. If you can contort the application to work via HTTP, you can most certainly do it with, e.g., IOLib. The webserver doesn't make programming the interaction any easier unless it's got something like continuations... But, again, continuations would work just as well with iolib. |
| 00:55.08 | swatter | 0701 the thing threads buy you is that you don't have to write the inversion of control yourself when doing IO. If you can contort the application to work via HTTP, you can most certainly do it with, e.g., IOLib. The webserver doesn't make programming the interaction any easier unless it's got something like continuations... But, again, continuations would work just as well with iolib. |
| 00:55.12 | Sling | christ man |
| 00:55.13 | swatter | 0629 the thing threads buy you is that you don't have to write the inversion of control yourself when doing IO. If you can contort the application to work via HTTP, you can most certainly do it with, e.g., IOLib. The webserver doesn't make programming the interaction any easier unless it's got something like continuations... But, again, continuations would work just as well with iolib. |
| 00:55.14 | Cholito | etf? |
| 00:55.18 | swatter | 0431 the thing threads buy you is that you don't have to write the inversion of control yourself when doing IO. If you can contort the application to work via HTTP, you can most certainly do it with, e.g., IOLib. The webserver doesn't make programming the interaction any easier unless it's got something like continuations... But, again, continuations would work just as well with iolib. |
| 00:55.23 | swatter | 0142 the thing threads buy you is that you don't have to write the inversion of control yourself when doing IO. If you can contort the application to work via HTTP, you can most certainly do it with, e.g., IOLib. The webserver doesn't make programming the interaction any easier unless it's got something like continuations... But, again, continuations would work just as well with iolib. |
| 00:55.28 | swatter | 0567 the thing threads buy you is that you don't have to write the inversion of control yourself when doing IO. If you can contort the application to work via HTTP, you can most certainly do it with, e.g., IOLib. The webserver doesn't make programming the interaction any easier unless it's got something like continuations... But, again, continuations would work just as well with iolib. |
| 00:55.33 | swatter | 0578 the thing threads buy you is that you don't have to write the inversion of control yourself when doing IO. If you can contort the application to work via HTTP, you can most certainly do it with, e.g., IOLib. The webserver doesn't make programming the interaction any easier unless it's got something like continuations... But, again, continuations would work just as well with iolib. |
| 00:55.35 | Sling | ping abrotman |
| 00:55.35 | Cholito | !ban swatter |
| 00:55.37 | webmind-org | !kick swatter |
| 00:55.38 | dpkg | kicks swatter in the ass. |
| 00:55.38 | swatter | 0138 the thing threads buy you is that you don't have to write the inversion of control yourself when doing IO. If you can contort the application to work via HTTP, you can most certainly do it with, e.g., IOLib. The webserver doesn't make programming the interaction any easier unless it's got something like continuations... But, again, continuations would work just as well with iolib. |
| 00:55.43 | swatter | 0781 the thing threads buy you is that you don't have to write the inversion of control yourself when doing IO. If you can contort the application to work via HTTP, you can most certainly do it with, e.g., IOLib. The webserver doesn't make programming the interaction any easier unless it's got something like continuations... But, again, continuations would work just as well with iolib. |
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| 00:55.48 | swatter | 0753 the thing threads buy you is that you don't have to write the inversion of control yourself when doing IO. If you can contort the application to work via HTTP, you can most certainly do it with, e.g., IOLib. The webserver doesn't make programming the interaction any easier unless it's got something like continuations... But, again, continuations would work just as well with iolib. |
| 00:55.49 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@71.237.178.4] by abrotman |
| 00:55.49 | *** kick/#debian [swatter!n=abrotman@pdpc/supporter/active/abrotman] by abrotman (abrotman) |
| 00:55.49 | webmind-org | !ban swatter |
| 00:55.51 | *** mode/#debian [-o abrotman] by abrotman |
| 00:56.05 | Cholito | thanks hehe |
| 00:56.32 | abrotman | what a stupid bot |
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| 00:57.45 | ftp3 | hey.. so, i had my debian system running fine.. then I had to change network cards.. the new system boots fine.. but it is not starting the network card.. it sees it (realtek) if i run lspci.. how do I make it work? something with modprobe? |
| 00:58.22 | Sling | ifup |
| 01:00.16 | ftp3 | sling: ifup eth1 worked.. the old one was eth0.. i went into interfaces and did a replace.. after reboot.. is there anything else i need to change? |
| 01:00.20 | abrotman | ftp3: /msg dpkg z25 |
| 01:00.21 | PhrkOnLsh | re |
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| 01:00.40 | abrotman | ftp3: oh .. you already changed your interfaces? |
| 01:01.13 | ftp3 | abrotman: yeah.. after i typed ifup eth1 and found it ;-) |
| 01:01.25 | abrotman | ok |
| 01:01.44 | ftp3 | seems to be workigng :-) |
| 01:01.53 | ftp3 | thanks guys.. |
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| 01:02.23 | PhrkOnLsh | Anyone with a lue what is up with my dpkg? |
| 01:02.38 | PhrkOnLsh | clue, also, would be nice |
| 01:02.38 | abrotman | didn't see a paste |
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| 01:02.52 | abrotman | ah .. lost it in the bot |
| 01:02.54 | PhrkOnLsh | damned spam bot |
| 01:03.06 | PhrkOnLsh | http://pastebin.ca/1184820 |
| 01:03.16 | Zharf | PhrkOnLsh, you call that spam? |
| 01:03.24 | PhrkOnLsh | Zharf: spam enough imo |
| 01:03.35 | *** mode/#debian [+o abrotman] by ChanServ |
| 01:03.38 | *** mode/#debian [-b *!*@92.1.135.179] by abrotman |
| 01:03.41 | *** mode/#debian [-o abrotman] by abrotman |
| 01:03.46 | Zharf | I'd say it's just mindless flood without even any advertisement value |
| 01:03.56 | PhrkOnLsh | Zharf: still annoying |
| 01:04.02 | Zharf | tre |
| 01:04.04 | Zharf | true |
| 01:04.04 | abrotman | it's not even a good bot |
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| 01:04.09 | hogdog | Zharf lol, now you are taking it up on here :) |
| 01:04.22 | abrotman | "I don't actually know how to do anything useful, so I'll code a bot that pastes the same thing over and over" |
| 01:04.23 | Zharf | hogdog, I do it everywhere |
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| 01:04.40 | hogdog | Zharf you should make it your mission to track him down |
| 01:04.42 | Zharf | hogdog, it's 4am, I can't get any sleep |
| 01:04.50 | Zharf | I need to get up in 4 hours |
| 01:04.53 | abrotman | Zharf: try uh .. turning off the computer? |
| 01:04.58 | hogdog | Zharf yeah, i hear you |
| 01:05.04 | Zharf | abrotman, it was off for three hours |
| 01:05.09 | Zharf | I didn't sleep at all |
| 01:05.42 | abrotman | PhrkOnLsh: and there aren't any bugs filed against the package |
| 01:05.57 | PhrkOnLsh | immo not... |
| 01:06.51 | abrotman | no .. i looked |
| 01:07.08 | PhrkOnLsh | I don't get what it's doing |
| 01:07.17 | PhrkOnLsh | google says nothing off the bat, imo |
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| 01:10.37 | PhrkOnLsh | http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-dpkg-bugs@lists.debian.org/msg07119.html <-- no follow up |
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| 01:12.43 | abrotman | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=489068 |
| 01:12.48 | abrotman | try the real BTS |
| 01:12.55 | PhrkOnLsh | yeah, was reading now |
| 01:13.20 | PhrkOnLsh | so this is still fairly recent... |
| 01:13.32 | PhrkOnLsh | well, shoot, that doesn't work too wel for me :/ |
| 01:13.43 | PhrkOnLsh | dinner, back in 20 |
| 01:13.55 | abrotman | crap dinner |
| 01:13.56 | abrotman | :) |
| 01:14.09 | Sling | i dont like crap for dinner |
| 01:14.22 | Sling | it just doesnt hit the spot |
| 01:14.47 | PhrkOnLsh | eh, dinner and laptop :) |
| 01:15.07 | feighm | how do i automate source installs? |
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| 01:15.32 | abrotman | you don't |
| 01:15.39 | Gillpy | Is there some way I can switch tty1 and tty2 ? |
| 01:15.49 | abrotman | chvt ? |
| 01:15.55 | p1ngp0ng | bah, is there no way to remove gnome if i installed it with apt-get instead of with aptitude? |
| 01:16.01 | abrotman | ctrl-alt-f2 ? |
| 01:16.06 | abrotman | !remove gnome |
| 01:16.07 | dpkg | from memory, remove gnome is aptitude remove libgnome32 libgnome2-common |
| 01:16.13 | n3kl | I need a hand. I have followed the limited instructions that dpkg has for a serial tty and also looked online. But I can't seem to make it work. I have setup the line in inittab and setup minicom, but minicom show offline and does not connect to the console. |
| 01:16.22 | n3kl | Anyone have any ideas for me please? |
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| 01:17.02 | Gillpy | abrotman: no, I mean for example if I have an app running in tty2 and getty in tty1, can I move the app to tty1 |
| 01:17.46 | PhrkOnLsh | Gillpy: why? |
| 01:18.05 | n3kl | Gillpy: crtl-c, screen <command> |
| 01:18.10 | feighm | what's wrong with gnome? |
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| 01:18.27 | n3kl | feighm: I can't figure out how to use it |
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| 01:19.00 | Gillpy | PhrkOnLsh: it's easier to switch from tty1 to tty7, with alt, left |
| 01:19.05 | abrotman | wtf |
| 01:19.10 | asg | abrotman: you got me |
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| 01:19.32 | abrotman | thinks everyone is answering questions for other people unrelated to original questions |
| 01:19.49 | n3kl | huh? |
| 01:20.01 | asg | abrotman: I showed up and people are stroking gnomes |
| 01:20.03 | zinx | abrotman: i think at least n3kl is |
| 01:20.25 | abrotman | looks around the channel for the hidden beer |
| 01:20.52 | p1ngp0ng | abrotman: it removes 0KB. like i said, i used apt-get to install it. i've tried the apt-get remove and aptitude remove, but it does not work |
| 01:21.00 | n3kl | no, I have problems, not answers |
| 01:21.21 | n3kl | p1ngp0ng: please define "does not work" |
| 01:21.21 | abrotman | p1ngp0ng: then you don't have gnome installed |
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| 01:22.07 | Gillpy | n3kl: thanks, I forgot to use screen |
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| 01:22.33 | abrotman | maybe i should have told him about retty ? |
| 01:22.47 | p1ngp0ng | well i do, because i find alot of gnome stuff on the system like gnome calculator etc |
| 01:22.47 | zinx | p1ngp0ng: he said to remove libgnome32 / libgnome2-common, not gnome :P |
| 01:22.51 | n3kl | abrotman: there is another one I can't remember also |
| 01:22.59 | abrotman | n3kl: another one ? |
| 01:23.03 | abrotman | oh .. retty |
| 01:23.05 | abrotman | !info retty etch |
| 01:23.06 | n3kl | abrotman: right |
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| 01:23.32 | dpkg | retty: (attach processes running on other terminals), section utils, is extra. Version: 1.0-1 (etch), Packaged size: 9 kB, Installed size: 68 kB |
| 01:23.37 | zinx | p1ngp0ng: all gnome programs depend on those libraries |
| 01:23.48 | zinx | p1ngp0ng: so if you remove them, the package manager has to remove all gnome programs as well |
| 01:24.32 | p1ngp0ng | well, thats what i want |
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| 01:25.07 | edwin_quijada | hi! |
| 01:25.09 | zinx | which is why abrotman suggested it |
| 01:25.19 | p1ngp0ng | but it didnt work. |
| 01:25.20 | edwin_quijada | How can turn off acpi=off to my debian etch? |
| 01:25.28 | abrotman | zinx: thank you for the very long winded explanation |
| 01:25.37 | abrotman | edwin_quijada: in your bootloader config |
| 01:25.57 | zinx | p1ngp0ng: then you're going to have to give details on why it said it didn't the libraries |
| 01:26.03 | zinx | erh, didn't remove |
| 01:26.25 | carlitos_kyo | hi... I need help.... I try to upgrade to testing and the action failed at the middle and now not find the root file system |
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| 01:27.10 | jester45 | carlitos_kyo, could you tell what package failed? |
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| 01:27.33 | carlitos_kyo | dirmngr |
| 01:27.38 | allos_nerelin | How I do install archive .deb ? |
| 01:28.00 | jester45 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:28.09 | jester45 | gui for gnome just double click |
| 01:28.17 | allos_nerelin | openfire_3.5.2_all.deb |
| 01:28.25 | abrotman | allos_nerelin: man dpkg |
| 01:28.27 | jester45 | well i guess you need gnome for gdebi |
| 01:28.28 | asg | allos_nerelin: dpkg -i |
| 01:28.31 | jester45 | allos_nerelin, use dpkg -i |
| 01:28.31 | allos_nerelin | install in vps |
| 01:28.37 | allos_nerelin | hummm |
| 01:28.39 | carlitos_kyo | when init it give me a lite enviromnent to manage the system but a can't mount de file system |
| 01:28.54 | p1ngp0ng | http://pastebin.com/m2e97fcb0 |
| 01:29.00 | carlitos_kyo | the hard disk module is not loaded |
| 01:29.11 | p1ngp0ng | this is what aptitude -remove libgnome32 and libgnome2-common gives |
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| 01:29.29 | jester45 | carlitos_kyo, thats busy box i would guess. was it missing a lot of programs?? you probly need to load your chipset module |
| 01:29.35 | edwin_quijada | abrotman: could you tell me how can i do that//? I have this error: rtc:lost some interrupts at 1024gh |
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| 01:30.02 | edwin_quijada | somebody tell me that i can solve this turn off the acpi |
| 01:30.07 | abrotman | edwin_quijada: you just edit your bootloader config .. google should be able to answer this |
| 01:30.11 | jester45 | pingouin, spell lib correcty |
| 01:30.35 | Nyle | !ping |
| 01:30.35 | dpkg | pong |
| 01:30.36 | jester45 | p1ngp0ng, |
| 01:30.37 | Nyle | hm |
| 01:30.42 | carlitos_kyo | yes a try but a not found what module is... |
| 01:30.42 | Nyle | ey |
| 01:30.44 | Nyle | stop it |
| 01:30.54 | Nyle | i know what a module is |
| 01:30.58 | Nyle | !module |
| 01:31.02 | Nyle | damn bot |
| 01:31.11 | jester45 | p1ngp0ng, you use ligbnome2 |
| 01:31.13 | Nyle | I guess I dunno what a module is... |
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| 01:32.04 | abrotman | !es |
| 01:32.05 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 01:32.14 | p1ngp0ng | sorry, but i did spell it correctly |
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| 01:32.22 | zinx | p1ngp0ng: did you aptitude remove libgnome32 yet? |
| 01:32.37 | pingouin | who makes me up ? ;) |
| 01:32.40 | zinx | (also, note that it's not -remove) |
| 01:33.04 | jester45 | p1ngp0ng, did you read your own paste? |
| 01:33.13 | jester45 | Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "ligbnome2-common" |
| 01:33.42 | p1ngp0ng | errr |
| 01:33.55 | jester45 | pingouin, sry didnt know his name use 1 not i ... evil tab complete |
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| 01:34.29 | webmind-org | !icecream |
| 01:34.32 | pingouin | jester45: that's ok, i was joking for sure ;) |
| 01:34.53 | p1ngp0ng | hehehe |
| 01:34.56 | p1ngp0ng | woopsy |
| 01:35.10 | abrotman | webmind-org: msg the bot |
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| 01:35.19 | p1ngp0ng | noob in training, please keep a safe distance! :P |
| 01:35.24 | webmind-org | i will |
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| 01:35.51 | jester45 | p1ngp0ng, did the correct spelling help? |
| 01:36.02 | p1ngp0ng | indeed it did sir |
| 01:36.04 | p1ngp0ng | ;) |
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| 01:36.26 | p1ngp0ng | or mam* |
| 01:37.14 | simonrvn | "ma'am" |
| 01:38.02 | jester45 | sir is prefered over ma'am |
| 01:38.07 | p1ngp0ng | aight |
| 01:38.25 | jester45 | :) |
| 01:38.39 | p1ngp0ng | i got some good news, im really close to geting x and vnc up on my server ^^ |
| 01:39.02 | abrotman | this is good news? |
| 01:39.03 | p1ngp0ng | close is a relative term tho :P |
| 01:39.08 | p1ngp0ng | for me it is :) |
| 01:39.26 | PhrkOnLsh | abrotman: well, whatver was wrong with dpkg is now fixed :B |
| 01:39.37 | abrotman | huh ? |
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| 01:39.40 | jester45 | so.... i need to setup a new firewall cluster webserver and print server tomarro |
| 01:39.41 | abrotman | PhrkOnLsh: oh .. |
| 01:39.47 | jester45 | hates upgrades |
| 01:39.48 | abrotman | had cross-channel flashbacks |
| 01:39.54 | PhrkOnLsh | upshoulders |
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| 01:40.09 | jester45 | hey you know whats funny |
| 01:40.13 | carlitos_kyo | how I can load all modules? |
| 01:40.19 | jester45 | im talking to you guys via my iphone :) |
| 01:40.26 | LeoDing | all modules? |
| 01:40.28 | p1ngp0ng | omg ***! |
| 01:40.36 | carlitos_kyo | yes |
| 01:40.53 | jester45 | carlitos_kyo, i wouldnt do that i would look at what chipset/ module your missing and find out what you need to load |
| 01:41.12 | ftp3 | is there somewhere that overrides the gateway you can specify in /etc/network/interfaces? |
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| 01:42.00 | jester45 | the route command |
| 01:42.10 | jester45 | as a temp override |
| 01:42.39 | LeoDing | carlitos_kyo:you are madï¼ |
| 01:43.08 | ftp3 | jester45: thanks.. your a very dedicated #debian user..helping from your iphone :-) |
| 01:43.53 | jester45 | also is working on his webpage via his iphone |
| 01:44.03 | carlitos_kyo | :S |
| 01:44.05 | jester45 | im running lighttpd on it |
| 01:44.12 | jester45 | best phone ever |
| 01:45.05 | LeoDing | carlitos_kyo:you can see /etc/modules.conf |
| 01:45.20 | PhrkOnLsh | re from wifi :) |
| 01:46.08 | carlitos_kyo | The system can't mount de root file system |
| 01:46.39 | carlitos_kyo | my hard disk is HDS728080PLAT20 80 7200 Parallel-ATA |
| 01:46.43 | jester45 | carlitos_kyo, live cd boot up check modules |
| 01:47.47 | carlitos_kyo | ok |
| 01:47.51 | carlitos_kyo | thanks |
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| 01:55.03 | allos_nerelin | http://pastebin.com/db76dac9 helpme please |
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| 01:55.08 | LeoDing | jester45:live cd?good idea |
| 01:55.49 | simonrvn | dcc sends abrotman some popcorn |
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| 01:56.43 | jester45 | allos_nerelin, aptitude install sun-java6-jre && dpkg -i openfire_3.5.2_all.deb |
| 01:57.05 | ma3x | hello why do i get no synaptics event device found at xorg startup? |
| 01:57.09 | ma3x | query no synaptics |
| 01:57.22 | jester45 | && means do this first && if the first command completes (no errors) then run this |
| 01:58.03 | allos_nerelin | jester45 |
| 01:58.03 | allos_nerelin | http://pastebin.com/d5e80ae47 |
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| 01:58.35 | jester45 | try with java5 then |
| 01:58.44 | jester45 | you may be missing a repo |
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| 01:59.27 | p1ngp0ng | X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting. And whats this now? |
| 01:59.32 | p1ngp0ng | i need food now :S |
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| 02:00.53 | jester45 | p1ngp0ng, add your user to the video group i think |
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| 02:02.34 | zinx | p1ngp0ng: it's not some cryptic message.. it means exactly what it says. |
| 02:02.45 | abrotman | p1ngp0ng: how did you install X? |
| 02:02.58 | zinx | abrotman: keeping in mind he probably just removed gdm... |
| 02:03.18 | abrotman | zinx: keeping in mind a few other choice words |
| 02:03.27 | p1ngp0ng | yes x and everything is set to go. |
| 02:03.35 | jester45 | removes gdm nightly |
| 02:03.38 | abrotman | apparently not |
| 02:03.44 | rhineheart_m | hello.. I have this concern. How would I remove local redirection to local mail? This is the case.. if outside the network...mail.domain.com will redirect me to googlemail. But if in LAN, requests to mail.domain.com will redirect to the local squirrelmail. I want to login to gmail only. Thanks |
| 02:04.03 | p1ngp0ng | well i need to add my user to the x server group |
| 02:04.09 | p1ngp0ng | but first, i need food |
| 02:04.15 | jester45 | p1ngp0ng, thats... what i said |
| 02:04.29 | p1ngp0ng | thats what i was refering to jester45 :) |
| 02:04.37 | simonrvn | *what* x server group? |
| 02:04.40 | jester45 | rhineheart_m, if you have a lan dns server you could make it do such a thing |
| 02:04.53 | jester45 | ooo you dont want it to |
| 02:04.54 | p1ngp0ng | i dunno. there isnt a video/x group |
| 02:05.06 | rhineheart_m | jester45, thanks again. Well, can you tell me a little about it? |
| 02:05.12 | jester45 | p1ngp0ng, ooo well my gentoo is leaking out then |
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| 02:05.41 | jester45 | rhineheart_m, right now it is redirecting you? or do you want to be directed |
| 02:06.12 | rhineheart_m | jester45, I want to be directed to googleapps (mail services only) even if I'm inside the LAN |
| 02:06.43 | jester45 | rhineheart_m, so why is it directing you to the lan server? |
| 02:07.21 | Blast_Hardcheese | I'm getting an Input/output error while trying to dd from a DVD. I've used regionset to set my drive to region 1, is there anything else I have to do before this works? VLC gets an input/output error trying to play the DVD normally |
| 02:07.35 | rhineheart_m | jester45, I guess I messed something. I have squirrelmail installed in my server. But I don't use it. I will use gmail instead. |
| 02:08.07 | jester45 | uninstall or... maybe change your host file to manually set gmail's ip |
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| 02:08.25 | simonrvn | not a good idea |
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| 02:09.00 | vedant | Hi, how do I make debian join an Active Directory domain? |
| 02:09.07 | jester45 | or squirrelmail has a setting you dont want it to |
| 02:09.20 | abrotman | vedant: read the docs at samba.org |
| 02:09.22 | simonrvn | debian doesn't like ad, it says ad sucks. |
| 02:09.27 | rhineheart_m | jester45, I guess this is the better question. How would I prevent mail.domain.com to direct me to local squirrelmail if I'm in the LAN? |
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| 02:10.19 | ma3x | can anyone help me? synaptics is not working/loading |
| 02:10.26 | ma3x | im mouseless |
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| 02:11.14 | vedant | well, it confuses me. I understood samba is only for file sharing with the smb protocol |
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| 02:11.22 | Supaplex | what setting in openbox (rc.xml) contols how sensitive the scroll wheel is when it's on the root screen? one wheel notch is too sensitive to switch screens. I'd rather have it two or three in a 300-400ms period |
| 02:11.25 | zinx | vedant: SMB / CIFS |
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| 02:11.35 | vedant | ok, SMB / CIFS |
| 02:11.40 | jester45 | ooo now i dont have to proxy my phone |
| 02:11.47 | zinx | vedant: but it has the rest of the windows stuff too, WINS and whatever |
| 02:12.03 | zinx | vedant: not sure if those run in smbd or nmbd though |
| 02:12.05 | vedant | ok |
| 02:12.07 | abrotman | vedant: it also can do the PDC interactivity to allow your system to be part of the domain |
| 02:12.27 | allos_nerelin | can not install sun-java5-jre =\ |
| 02:12.51 | vedant | hmm |
| 02:13.36 | abrotman | !non-free |
| 02:13.36 | dpkg | methinks non-free is a component which contains software that does not comply with the <DFSG>. To add non-free packages to your packages index, ask me about <non-free sources>. To see which non-free packages are installed on your system, ask me about <vrms>. For the Non-free tracking system, see http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/ |
| 02:13.51 | allos_nerelin | http://pastebin.com/dd481b53 |
| 02:14.22 | allos_nerelin | @@ abrotman |
| 02:14.30 | abrotman | @@ |
| 02:14.32 | Jester45_ | Ya samba can do just about anything with windows networks |
| 02:14.36 | simonrvn | @_@ |
| 02:14.42 | abrotman | !tell allos_nerelin about non-free |
| 02:14.45 | abrotman | !tell allos_nerelin about install java |
| 02:15.26 | Jester45_ | I was right your missing a repo |
| 02:15.57 | abrotman | you're |
| 02:16.01 | allos_nerelin | http://pastebin.com/d7db92c54 |
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| 02:16.18 | PhrkOnLsh | Is there any way for me to compare two commands' output using grep or so? |
| 02:16.38 | abrotman | uhm .. put the output in files and use diff ? |
| 02:16.40 | abrotman | or comm |
| 02:16.49 | PhrkOnLsh | :) thanks abrotman |
| 02:16.56 | PhrkOnLsh | is stupid today sry |
| 02:17.23 | abrotman | wonders why it feels like every other day today :) |
| 02:17.34 | p1ngp0ng | allright, im full. now, there is no group for xserver/video in debian? |
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| 02:17.43 | abrotman | duh |
| 02:17.49 | p1ngp0ng | then how do i auth my user for x? |
| 02:17.57 | abrotman | $ groups |
| 02:17.57 | abrotman | abrotman dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev nvram |
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| 02:18.29 | p1ngp0ng | !groups |
| 02:18.29 | dpkg | methinks groups is file:///usr/share/doc/base-passwd/users-and-groups.html |
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| 02:19.19 | Blast_Hardcheese | I'm getting an Input/output error while trying to dd from a DVD. I've used regionset to set my drive to region 1, is there anything else I have to do before this works? VLC gets an input/output error trying to play the DVD normally |
| 02:20.13 | Jester45_ | Try unmointing |
| 02:20.26 | Jester45_ | Mounting* |
| 02:20.41 | Blast_Hardcheese | It's unmounted when I try to dd from it |
| 02:20.51 | Blast_Hardcheese | it still gets the input/output error |
| 02:20.54 | allos_nerelin | http://packages.debian.org/etch/sun-java5-jre |
| 02:20.58 | allos_nerelin | not open |
| 02:20.59 | allos_nerelin | =\ |
| 02:21.28 | edwin_quijada | somebody has any idea to solve this error rtc: lost some interrupts at 1024Hz |
| 02:21.32 | edwin_quijada | ??? |
| 02:21.46 | edwin_quijada | it is make me crazy |
| 02:22.09 | rhineheart_m | Is it possible to run apache, dansguardian, proxy server in one box? |
| 02:22.10 | Supaplex | edwin_quijada: sounds like a busy machine |
| 02:22.11 | Jester45_ | Turn off etc :) |
| 02:22.30 | abrotman | !tell allos_nerelin about install java |
| 02:22.31 | edwin_quijada | Supaplex: busy machine? |
| 02:22.33 | Jester45_ | Etc |
| 02:22.34 | abrotman | !tell allos_nerelin about non-free |
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| 02:22.41 | abrotman | !br |
| 02:22.45 | karlpinc | Blast_Hardcheese : I've no idea. But FWIW you might be able to get region-free firmware for the drive at lasvegas.rpc1.org. |
| 02:22.46 | dpkg | Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 02:22.46 | edwin_quijada | I turn off acpi and nothing |
| 02:22.56 | Supaplex | edwin_quijada: high load, working hard |
| 02:23.15 | Jester45_ | Omb auto spell checking is going to bother me so much |
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| 02:23.25 | jester45 | back to the pc |
| 02:23.36 | karlpinc | Anybody have any pros/cons or other comments regards using python-django? |
| 02:24.14 | matthew_ | i tried ubuntu... beginning to regret it |
| 02:24.44 | jester45 | thats what ubuntu is for, tring then moving on |
| 02:24.57 | matthew_ | strange distro; everything *kinda* works |
| 02:25.10 | matthew_ | but not *totally* works |
| 02:25.11 | massmc | lol |
| 02:25.12 | abrotman | sounds like a ford! |
| 02:25.14 | abrotman | runs |
| 02:25.37 | Nyle | hey |
| 02:25.39 | Nyle | man |
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| 02:25.47 | Nyle | whats the matter with you? |
| 02:26.32 | Nyle | matthew_, nothing works.. plus it crashes and packages are of lower quality and with more bugs |
| 02:26.56 | Nyle | what do you expect when they snapshot sid, pretty it up hack it up even more and release it |
| 02:26.59 | allos_nerelin | abrotman http://packages.debian.org/etch/all/sun-java5-jre/download ? |
| 02:27.02 | Nyle | oof! |
| 02:27.07 | karlpinc | Blast_Hardcheese : I've always used dvdbackup. |
| 02:27.12 | matthew_ | Nyle: its stabler than sid :S |
| 02:27.19 | Nyle | what |
| 02:27.22 | abrotman | allos_nerelin: the bot has told you stuff like *10* times in /msg .. you should read it |
| 02:27.32 | matthew_ | Nyle: well... stabler than sid when distros change |
| 02:27.33 | abrotman | allos_nerelin: or try #debian-br .. you may have a language barrier issue |
| 02:27.38 | Nyle | you shittin me? I used sid for 7 years now 8, and no problems that much solid stable |
| 02:27.53 | Nyle | i used ubuntu for 1 week crashed every hour on the hour |
| 02:28.02 | abrotman | #ubuntu for ubuntu chatter? |
| 02:28.04 | Nyle | ... i swear to god.. debian is the shiznit |
| 02:28.05 | jester45 | matthew_, its based on sid. they start a new release by a snapshot of sid then fix bugs and make everything a gui then relase it |
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| 02:28.18 | Blast_Hardcheese | karlpinc: dvdbackup makes no difference, dd can't read the drive. |
| 02:28.19 | Nyle | which introduced more bugs ... |
| 02:28.32 | Nyle | anyway |
| 02:28.37 | Blast_Hardcheese | if something as low level as dd can't read the drive, there's a problem |
| 02:28.45 | Nyle | installl debian and you'll be happy in your life |
| 02:28.54 | matthew_ | Nyle: I have debian |
| 02:29.01 | Nyle | then you're good to go |
| 02:29.04 | matthew_ | Nyle: clearly you didnt read my earlier comment :P |
| 02:29.09 | matthew_ | but I dont touch sid |
| 02:29.11 | Nyle | obviously not |
| 02:29.15 | matthew_ | it sortof... breaks |
| 02:29.18 | karlpinc | Blast_Hardcheese : You're paying the drive manufacturer to put extra hardware in the drive that makes it more difficult for you to read the data. dd may not be able to jump through the hardware hoops. (And that about exhausts what I can recall.) |
| 02:29.20 | Nyle | you sort of break! |
| 02:29.27 | Nyle | and yeh, you shouldn't mess with sid |
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| 02:30.28 | Nyle | is living an object oriented life... if (!control($emotions) && ($bitching == $fighting++)) { consume_drug($Fukitol_1000_mg^2); irssi::run_command("/away"); } |
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| 02:31.36 | abrotman | i think you wanted *2 |
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| 02:31.47 | abrotman | 1000mg squared .. may cause problems |
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| 02:33.37 | grunt | Hi there! |
| 02:33.37 | matthew_ | whats fukitol? |
| 02:33.41 | allos_nerelin | debian-br dead |
| 02:33.42 | allos_nerelin | =\ |
| 02:33.50 | abrotman | allos_nerelin: see what the bot told oyu |
| 02:33.51 | abrotman | you |
| 02:33.56 | abrotman | matthew_: google |
| 02:34.23 | Blast_Hardcheese | karlpinc: Nope |
| 02:34.27 | Blast_Hardcheese | dvdbackup fails as well |
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| 02:34.54 | grunt | Is there someone here with a eeePC (with Debian of course)? I want to buy one, and I'd like to know if it runs well with Debian. |
| 02:34.59 | abrotman | !eeepc |
| 02:35.00 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, eee is see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC, or #debian-eeepc on irc.oftc.net, or see http://debian-eeepc.alioth.debian.org/ See also <atl2>. |
| 02:35.16 | matthew_ | !google fukitol |
| 02:35.20 | matthew_ | hmm |
| 02:35.29 | simonrvn | ... |
| 02:35.44 | abrotman | really? |
| 02:35.47 | karlpinc | Blast_Hardcheese :-( I had that happen twice. Once I think the dvd was from aother region. But another time it plain just didn't work. |
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| 02:36.38 | Blast_Hardcheese | I set the region to the correct region, it's never been used to read a DVD. |
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| 02:37.11 | karlpinc | Blast_Hardcheese : Probably won't help, but you could wash and dry the disk. |
| 02:37.26 | Blast_Hardcheese | It's brand new out of the box. |
| 02:38.03 | karlpinc | Blast_Hardcheese : Do you have debian-multimedia in your sources.list and have installed dvdcss? |
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| 02:38.33 | karlpinc | Blast_Hardcheese : (libdvdcss) |
| 02:38.40 | grunt | It seems that eeePC wifi chipset is running good with aircrack.. I'll buy it :) |
| 02:38.55 | oklinux | I installed mozilla firefox but i cant find the icon |
| 02:39.28 | abrotman | why? |
| 02:39.32 | abrotman | just use iceweasel |
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| 02:39.49 | karlpinc | oklinux : With apt, or straight from mozilla? The 'debian way' is to install using apt-get (etc) and get iceweasel. (like he said) |
| 02:40.18 | oklinux | I like to use mozilla |
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| 02:40.34 | oklinux | I use synaptic to install firefox |
| 02:40.54 | Blast_Hardcheese | karlpinc: That shouldn't affect dd or dvdbackpu |
| 02:41.04 | Blast_Hardcheese | s/(.)(.)$/$2$1/ |
| 02:41.15 | grunt | oklinux: Iceweasel IS mozilla, the only differencies are the name and icon |
| 02:41.29 | simonrvn | (@)(@) |
| 02:41.35 | jester45 | and artwork inside of the program |
| 02:41.54 | Blast_Hardcheese | karlpinc: installed libdvdcss and it still fails. |
| 02:41.56 | zinx | no, it has some security / default option patches |
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| 02:42.06 | zinx | and/or random Debian integration patches |
| 02:42.15 | zinx | but that's why we can't call it firefox |
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| 02:44.12 | jester45 | why did you say no? we were right just didnt add why |
| 02:44.30 | andrboot | Hi; i have debian lenny, trying to buil the vmmon fo vmware server and it doesn't compile due to the kernel being built with an older version of gcc.. any ideas? |
| 02:44.32 | edwin_quijada | how can loggin to my server without any service? |
| 02:45.01 | edwin_quijada | i have a problem and i want to login without a few services |
| 02:45.19 | edwin_quijada | i have a root password |
| 02:45.21 | grunt | Erf, lol: the French translation of DebianEeePC looks like Stallman texts.. the same english-like french |
| 02:45.39 | karlpinc | Blast_Hardcheese : You do need libdvdcss or you get read errors (happened to me iirc) but at this point you've exhausted what I know. |
| 02:46.01 | Blast_Hardcheese | :\ |
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| 02:46.36 | karlpinc | Blast_Hardcheese : Yah. I keep bumping into my ignorance too. |
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| 02:46.52 | grunt | edwin_quijada: You cannot login if no service is listening to you |
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| 02:47.24 | simonrvn | blinks |
| 02:48.05 | Blast_Hardcheese | karlpinc: I keep bumping into your ignorance as well :) |
| 02:48.05 | karlpinc | Blast_Hardcheese : (You need dvdbackup, or something, to use libdvdcss. dd won't.) |
| 02:48.38 | andrboot | Hi; i have debian lenny, trying to buil the vmmon fo vmware server and it doesn't compile due to the kernel being built with an older version of gcc.. any ideas? |
| 02:49.03 | karlpinc | Blast_Hardcheese : There could (possibly) be something wack that means you have to reboot before the region change take affect. (bios related muck.) Dunno. A thought. |
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| 02:49.32 | Blast_Hardcheese | I was thinking about that, but that sucks :) |
| 02:50.19 | karlpinc | Blast_Hardcheese : Yes. Sadly, not as bad as all the crap added to HD sucks. |
| 02:50.35 | edwin_quijada | how can i connect to my server without any services? |
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| 02:50.45 | edwin_quijada | from console and root |
| 02:51.06 | andrboot | YES |
| 02:51.10 | andrboot | used his head |
| 02:51.12 | andrboot | it actually worked |
| 02:51.13 | andrboot | D: |
| 02:51.15 | andrboot | FUCK |
| 02:51.47 | Blast_Hardcheese | edwin_quijada: Without any services? |
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| 02:51.50 | Blast_Hardcheese | What? |
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| 02:52.12 | Alagar_ | iam using Debian Sarg 3.1 iam not able to install apache2. pls guide me |
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| 02:52.25 | simonrvn | !rube goldberg install |
| 02:52.25 | dpkg | "Hi! I want to install Debian with a 2.6.x kernel on a machine, but I can't boot from floppies, and I can't boot from CD-ROM, and I have no network card. I have only a USB dot matrix printer and a punch card reader." |
| 02:52.28 | edwin_quijada | Blast_Hardcheese: My server cant up |
| 02:52.58 | edwin_quijada | so i want to login in safe mode? is there exist here? |
| 02:53.06 | grunt | edwin_quijada: have you got physical access to the server? |
| 02:53.10 | edwin_quijada | yes |
| 02:53.15 | edwin_quijada | and i am root |
| 02:53.27 | jester45 | edwin_quijada, single user mode will be "like" safe mode |
| 02:53.40 | edwin_quijada | how can I get that ? |
| 02:53.41 | r0ns | hi,i accidently removed the apache2 init from /etc/init.d/.,i tried to remove apache2 and re-install apache2 ,but seems like its not working,and i cant see apache2 file came again on /etc/init.d..any suggestions please? |
| 02:53.51 | abrotman | !confmiss |
| 02:53.51 | dpkg | the reason you have to use dpkg --force-confmiss is because whenever your config files (<conffiles>) are gone, dpkg assumes you deleted them on purpose, and that you want them to stay deleted. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename>; or using aptitude, aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" reinstall <packagename>; |
| 02:55.53 | grunt | edwin_quijada: select single user mode when grub boots |
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| 02:56.26 | r0ns | hey i done apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install apache2 |
| 02:56.36 | r0ns | but still am not able to recover |
| 02:57.19 | grunt | r0ns: are conf files back in /etc/apache2 ? |
| 02:57.28 | r0ns | lemme check |
| 02:57.38 | grunt | r0ns: oops, /etc/init.d/ |
| 02:57.40 | jester45 | grunt, he lost the init file |
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| 02:58.18 | r0ns | yeah also i can see that apart from apache2 there is an apache folder too in /etc/ |
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| 02:58.35 | r0ns | grunt: i deleted that files |
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| 02:59.13 | dmoerner | r0ns: use --force-confnew then |
| 02:59.14 | r0ns | all good conf files,but i dont have a backup of apache2 in /etc/init.d |
| 02:59.34 | jester45 | you could just open the deb and copy it out |
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| 03:00.20 | r0ns | jester45: am n00b here..where is that file located? |
| 03:00.42 | jester45 | /var/cache/apt iirc |
| 03:00.43 | dmoerner | r0ns: /var/cache/apt/archives/apache2-whatever |
| 03:00.52 | r0ns | k :) |
| 03:01.03 | dmoerner | use dpkg -x to extract it in a temporary directory and then cp etc/init.d/apache2 /etc/init.d/apache2 |
| 03:02.02 | Agent_bob | if i install the openssh-client from ubuntu will it fix my "ssh never works right on debian" problem ? |
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| 03:02.31 | dmoerner | Agent_bob: what is the ssh never works right on debian problem |
| 03:02.34 | dmoerner | bts # please |
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| 03:03.13 | tenzind | hi, my desktop running lenny repeatedly gives this messege while booting: hub 2-0:1.0: over-current change on port 2 . does this mean something is broken on my motherboard? |
| 03:03.35 | Agent_bob | dmoerner i don't know. i have fixed it three times and it's still broken. |
| 03:03.53 | jpinx | Filesystem problem. ls -al gives me ?--------- ? ? ? ? ? /mnt/sda1/Photos, and rsync, rm and shred don't recognise it. It is an old directory. Any help anyone? |
| 03:03.57 | dmoerner | Agent_bob: how is it broken? |
| 03:04.03 | dmoerner | tenzind: that's just a warning. don't worry about it |
| 03:04.05 | Agent_bob | dmoerner it seems that ssh does some dns lookup even if using an ip |
| 03:05.03 | Agent_bob | and it then tries to connect to the other end of the inet tunnel |
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| 03:08.05 | jester45 | offtopic but the channel is quite. has slashdot ever been "slashdotted" |
| 03:08.47 | Agent_bob | i added a line in the ssh_config that was suposed to stop that problem, and ssh works from the command line but not from a script now... |
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| 03:09.17 | karlpinc | Agent_bob : How do you know? Last night you said that -vvv wasn't telling you what was going on, and I never heard back regards reading the logs. We were just guessing as to what the issue was with dns. |
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| 03:09.22 | r0ns | hi i cant file the apach2 init in apache2_2.2.3-4+etch5_all.deb |
| 03:09.26 | r0ns | *apache2 |
| 03:10.00 | Agent_bob | karlpinc yep |
| 03:10.00 | karlpinc | Agent_bob : Poking ssh with a stick only goes so far... |
| 03:10.21 | Agent_bob | http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d45f70132 |
| 03:12.00 | dmoerner | r0ns: it's in apache2.2-common |
| 03:12.39 | r0ns | cant see that |
| 03:12.40 | r0ns | here |
| 03:12.56 | r0ns | can i install it |
| 03:13.10 | r0ns | apt-get install apache2-common? |
| 03:13.19 | edwin_quijada | Hi |
| 03:13.22 | karlpinc | Agent_bob : Am I wrong or does that output end in a successful ssh connection? That's what works from the command line? What config did you change where? |
| 03:13.38 | edwin_quijada | i am the root password and i need to login in single mode but i cant |
| 03:13.41 | dmoerner | r0ns: aptitude install apache2.2-common |
| 03:13.43 | jester45 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:13.53 | r0ns | 2 yeah |
| 03:14.06 | Agent_bob | karlpinc notice the differance in ips for the script and the command... that's the whole issue. some reason even with "CheckHostIP no" it's still doing dns crap |
| 03:14.09 | edwin_quijada | i selected single mode from grub menu |
| 03:14.19 | jester45 | dmoerner, he removed his init but apt-get dpkg options thing didint help |
| 03:14.24 | jester45 | r0ns, of debian |
| 03:14.37 | edwin_quijada | but i get this: |
| 03:14.37 | dmoerner | jester45: he's trying to reinstall apache2 instead of apache2.2-common |
| 03:14.42 | dmoerner | he's reinstalling the wrong package |
| 03:15.01 | r0ns | jester45: :( |
| 03:15.03 | r0ns | sarge |
| 03:15.04 | r0ns | apache2.2-common is already the newest version. |
| 03:15.04 | Agent_bob | karlpinc adding "CheckHostIP no" fixed commandline ssh but no scripted ssh |
| 03:15.20 | Agent_bob | s/no/not |
| 03:15.27 | dmoerner | r0ns: yes but that has the config file you need at least on etch and sid |
| 03:15.29 | karlpinc | Agent_bob : ssh -v intelikey192.168.0.1 has no @ betwen the username and password. |
| 03:15.48 | jester45 | rons use the command apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install apache2-common |
| 03:16.33 | Agent_bob | well it's there in the file |
| 03:16.39 | Agent_bob | hmmmm |
| 03:17.05 | r0ns | This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or |
| 03:17.05 | r0ns | is only available from another source |
| 03:17.05 | r0ns | However the following packages replace it: apache2.2-common apache2-utils |
| 03:17.17 | dmoerner | r0ns: do it with apache2.2-common |
| 03:17.21 | r0ns | k |
| 03:17.37 | Agent_bob | oh crap i have two copies and the one i edited is not the one that which finds. </egg_faced> |
| 03:17.41 | karlpinc | Agent_bob : Note that CheckHostIP checks hosts against what's in ~/.ssh/known_hosts. If it fails that means you've changed the keys for an IP number and need to remove the line from ~/.ssh/known_hosts (or /etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts). It should give you a line number when it fails to tell you that somebody's trying to impersonate the host (or you changed the host's key yourself.) |
| 03:18.04 | r0ns | done |
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| 03:18.22 | r0ns | thanks dmoerner |
| 03:18.25 | karlpinc | Agent_bob : Not really. That's why you ask for eyes. :) |
| 03:18.51 | Agent_bob | karlpinc not really ? |
| 03:19.00 | smultron | when i'm in `screen` and hit backspace, it deletes from left to right, rather than right to left. any way to reverse this? |
| 03:19.02 | karlpinc | Agent_bob : Not really egg. |
| 03:20.03 | Agent_bob | oh yeah plenty egg... </dripping off nose> |
| 03:20.25 | Agent_bob | well thanks for the clue*four |
| 03:21.12 | Sashi | anyone here live in Canada? |
| 03:21.44 | jester45 | use delete |
| 03:21.46 | jester45 | lamo |
| 03:22.16 | Agent_bob | i generated new keys and adjusted the admin account of course posted it on pastebin for all the world to see too, but i can change it now. |
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| 03:23.22 | karlpinc | Agent_bob : You can post the public key, just not the private half. |
| 03:23.41 | Agent_bob | and i think i can do everything from debian that i can from other distros so i'm happy. other than the fumble with two scripts that i wasted 30 minutes trying to find. |
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| 03:23.51 | Agent_bob | karlpinc it's the name i was talking about. |
| 03:25.02 | Agent_bob | hmmm one other thing i need to fix atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0x8b on isa0060/serio0). |
| 03:25.02 | Agent_bob | atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e00b <keycode>' to make it known. |
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| 03:25.28 | Agent_bob | seems if i bump the keyboard wheel it spams the console |
| 03:25.36 | karlpinc | Agent_bob : Install one of those "keep my passwords horribly complex" packages and just have good passwords. The net will guess the username eventually anyhow. |
| 03:25.54 | Agent_bob | karlpinc heh i don't have passwords |
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| 03:27.01 | dansushi | how do you make linux have a static ip address? I was able to do it before, but i'm completely blanking right now. |
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| 03:28.08 | Agent_bob | i keep all account locked and passwords deleted. for q in `cut -d':' -f1` ;do passwd -dl $q ;done |
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| 03:28.49 | Agent_bob | dansushi in /etc/network/interfaces maybe ? |
| 03:29.02 | karlpinc | dansushi : man interfaces |
| 03:29.54 | dansushi | Agent_bob: thanks |
| 03:29.56 | edwin_quijada | how can I login in user mode |
| 03:30.07 | edwin_quijada | single mode |
| 03:30.20 | edwin_quijada | i get this error when i login with single user mode |
| 03:30.21 | Agent_bob | sudo init 1 |
| 03:30.22 | dmoerner | edwin_quijada: boot with "1" appended to your kernel line |
| 03:30.31 | edwin_quijada | Error:1 |
| 03:30.55 | edwin_quijada | i restart my server and i need to login in single mode |
| 03:31.05 | karlpinc | dansushi : dpkg-reconfigure ifupdown might work too. |
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| 03:31.13 | edwin_quijada | dmoerner: where can i do that |
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| 03:31.27 | edwin_quijada | my debian doesnt start |
| 03:31.30 | dmoerner | edwin_quijada: in grub. when you boot, use "e" to edit it |
| 03:31.30 | Agent_bob | edwin_quijada grub prompt |
| 03:31.46 | edwin_quijada | Agent_bob: ok |
| 03:31.56 | edwin_quijada | I am there so |
| 03:32.12 | Agent_bob | select kernel press e |
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| 03:32.18 | edwin_quijada | Agent_bob: I have 2 options grub menu |
| 03:32.21 | p1ngp0ng | isnt glibc 2.4 and fuse 2.6 in the etch repository |
| 03:32.24 | p1ngp0ng | ? |
| 03:32.41 | allos_nerelin | http://pastebin.com/d84e09dc help-me! |
| 03:33.05 | Agent_bob | select kernel press e |
| 03:33.18 | Agent_bob | i'll have to instrall a web browser... |
| 03:33.25 | yitz_ | Hi. My "Themed Facebrowser Greeter" is crashing. Using Etch. How do I go about diagnosing the issue and repairing it? |
| 03:33.33 | dmoerner | allos_nerelin: aptitude install -f |
| 03:33.47 | eap | i just installed empathy messenger, my Favourites (rooms) menu is grayed out, any idea what package I need to install to get it? |
| 03:34.21 | allos_nerelin | thanks |
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| 03:36.26 | edwin_quijada | Agent_bob: I cant login :( into my debian in single mode |
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| 03:37.08 | r0ns | thanks everyone..everything worked for me |
| 03:37.13 | edwin_quijada | i need help |
| 03:37.25 | Supaplex | !help edwin_quijada |
| 03:37.25 | edwin_quijada | how can i login in single mode? |
| 03:37.33 | edwin_quijada | !help |
| 03:37.35 | edwin_quijada | ?? |
| 03:37.38 | Supaplex | !tell edwin_quijada -about ask |
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| 03:38.00 | Supaplex | edwin_quijada: what's the symptoms when you try in single mode? |
| 03:38.08 | jpinx | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:38.49 | edwin_quijada | Supaplex: enter |
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| 03:39.26 | Supaplex | that's not a complete though. |
| 03:39.28 | edwin_quijada | but i get error 1: filename must be either an absolute path..... |
| 03:39.43 | dmoerner | edwin_quijada: you don't replace the line with "1", you append it to the end |
| 03:39.58 | Supaplex | when did it last work, and what's changed since then? |
| 03:40.12 | edwin_quijada | my grub menu has 2 option kernel 2.6.18.... |
| 03:40.31 | edwin_quijada | kernel 2.6.18 single user-mode |
| 03:40.55 | dmoerner | edwin_quijada: what happens if you boot the single user-mode kernel? |
| 03:41.31 | mikeb55 | Hey guys so I am md5sum'ing files(to find duplicates), and its taking fairly long, is there i can use thats faster? |
| 03:41.36 | edwin_quijada | i get Error 1: Filename must be either an absolute .... |
| 03:41.53 | Supaplex | mikeb55: upgrade :) |
| 03:41.55 | edwin_quijada | Press any key to continue |
| 03:42.18 | Supaplex | mikeb55: or only md5sum files that are the same size, ignore all others (as they can't be duplicate) |
| 03:42.56 | p1ngp0ng | how can i remove something i've installed along with its dependensies? |
| 03:42.58 | Supaplex | edwin_quijada: type "e" on the normal one, and add " s" (no quotes) to the end of the line. |
| 03:43.25 | p1ngp0ng | eg. i want to emove xfce. aptitude remove xfce...? |
| 03:43.31 | p1ngp0ng | remove |
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| 03:44.02 | Supaplex | p1ngp0ng: yup. aptitude is pretty smart that way. before it does anything, you'll see what |
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| 03:44.40 | edwin_quijada | what does s? |
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| 03:45.20 | p1ngp0ng | i will se what? |
| 03:46.36 | ninjasli1 | could someone kick "ninjaslim" from the server it's my nick, and my internetw as having issues and i started irssi again |
| 03:46.42 | ninjasli1 | now i can't identify |
| 03:46.46 | Supaplex | p1ngp0ng: something like on line 24 http://rafb.net/p/YwDcCB84.html |
| 03:46.51 | Agent_bob | only time i ever had apt hung up where it couldn't --fix aptitude didn't help anything... it was borked too. i never tried aptitude again i don't guess |
| 03:46.57 | dmoerner | ninjasli1: that is why you register nicks. |
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| 03:47.20 | Supaplex | !single |
| 03:47.20 | dpkg | somebody said single was <single user mode> to boot for recovery/rescue. man init, or boot with "single" as a kernel option. Also, init=/bin/bash if init is very brain dead. (filesystems are usually readonly and shell has no job control. unmount and reboot with care) |
| 03:47.49 | Supaplex | edwin_quijada: s == single (see what dpkg just said). it's a kernel commandline paramater |
| 03:47.50 | edwin_quijada | Supaplex i need to eliminate a script to run in init |
| 03:48.14 | edwin_quijada | how can up my server just with mount disk |
| 03:48.19 | Supaplex | which script? Did you try ^C on boot? |
| 03:48.20 | edwin_quijada | nothing else |
| 03:48.28 | Agent_bob | ninjasli1 /msg nickserv help ghost |
| 03:48.59 | edwin_quijada | Supaplex: yes |
| 03:49.02 | Supaplex | edwin_quijada: make sure this is on your kernel commandline: single init=/bin/bash |
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| 03:49.52 | Agent_bob | single will be ignored with init=/bin/*sh |
| 03:50.11 | Supaplex | good point. it'll still work. :p |
| 03:50.17 | Agent_bob | yep |
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| 03:50.29 | Agent_bob | but it will mount the root fs ro |
| 03:50.40 | Agent_bob | mount -o remount,rw / |
| 03:50.48 | edwin_quijada | Agent_bob: where can i do thsat? |
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| 03:51.05 | Supaplex | edwin_quijada: be specific. "that" is vague. |
| 03:51.13 | Agent_bob | edwin_quijada i don't think you can. actually |
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| 03:51.34 | edwin_quijada | just i have the grub menu |
| 03:52.03 | Agent_bob | that's what some people would do starting with the boot menu and it sounds to me like you ran grub from within linux... |
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| 03:52.45 | Agent_bob | we have all been talking about running linux from within grub not running grub from within linux. |
| 03:53.08 | Supaplex | edwin_quijada: highlight "Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.18-foo" (non single), type e to edit, highlight the kernel line, type e to edit, scroll to the end, add init=/bin/bash, press enter, type b to boot |
| 03:53.58 | Agent_bob | note e ^ in that context is the alphabet key E not the esc or the enter key |
| 03:54.07 | edwin_quijada | ok |
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| 03:56.08 | Agent_bob | after it boots to a command prompt you'll have to issue this command to be writable >>> mount -o remount,rw / |
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| 03:56.31 | Agent_bob | before you exit issue this command >>> mount -o remount,ro / |
| 03:56.31 | edwin_quijada | Su |
| 03:57.04 | jbAU | hi all - installed Debian Etch amd64 on a machine and having trouble configuring the network card. I've put in a PCI network card which I can see in Dmesg as eth0 but /dev/eth0 does not exist |
| 03:57.15 | Agent_bob | might want -n with that last one. |
| 03:57.16 | jbAU | I've tried restarted udev with no luck - |
| 03:57.33 | edwin_quijada | Agent_bob: add init=/bin/bash b to boot and i get Error 27: unrecognized command |
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| 03:58.31 | Agent_bob | show the full line please |
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| 03:59.14 | edwin_quijada | init=/bin/bash |
| 03:59.19 | edwin_quijada | b to boot |
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| 03:59.26 | Agent_bob | that's not a kernel |
| 03:59.31 | Agent_bob | that will error |
| 04:00.03 | edwin_quijada | i taken the first kernel no single mode |
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| 04:00.05 | Agent_bob | sujest pressing ctrl+alt+del try again |
| 04:00.35 | s3a | how do u fsck a hard drive given its directory? |
| 04:00.57 | s3a | Agent_bob: suggest* |
| 04:01.06 | Agent_bob | s3a you dismount it it first and fsck it's device node |
| 04:01.14 | edwin_quijada | Agent_bob: ok |
| 04:02.16 | edwin_quijada | 1: Take the first kernel kernel-2.6.18 press e |
| 04:02.31 | edwin_quijada | I get root(hd0,0) |
| 04:02.45 | s3a | Agent_bob: wat's device node? |
| 04:03.07 | Agent_bob | edwin_quijada correct. down one line you get a kernel |
| 04:03.13 | Agent_bob | press e |
| 04:03.13 | edwin_quijada | kernel /vmlinuz-2.6..... root = /dev/sda2 |
| 04:03.46 | Agent_bob | add >>> init=/bin/bash |
| 04:03.51 | Agent_bob | press enter |
| 04:03.54 | Agent_bob | press b |
| 04:04.01 | Agent_bob | remount the fs rw |
| 04:04.07 | Agent_bob | do your thang |
| 04:04.12 | Agent_bob | remount ro |
| 04:04.13 | edwin_quijada | to end of the line? |
| 04:04.20 | Agent_bob | ctrl+alt+del |
| 04:04.22 | edwin_quijada | add init=/bin/bash? |
| 04:04.25 | Agent_bob | yess |
| 04:05.00 | Agent_bob | s3a maybe you can see it with sudo fdisk -l |
| 04:05.16 | Agent_bob | s3a device nodes are in /dev/ |
| 04:05.34 | edwin_quijada | i get prompt root |
| 04:05.42 | s3a | Agent_bob: so i do fsck and then wat fdisk -l gives me for the drive? |
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| 04:05.49 | s3a | Agent_bob: in one command line |
| 04:06.14 | Agent_bob | the one for the fs in question (assuming hdd or usb stick) should show up in the list generated by fdisk -l |
| 04:06.17 | Agent_bob | s3a yes |
| 04:06.28 | s3a | Agent_bob: k, brb ill try it out |
| 04:06.56 | Agent_bob | starts to wonder where the other 784 users are.... |
| 04:07.01 | p1ngp0ng | is it safe to do rm -rf /etc/gnome`? |
| 04:07.11 | p1ngp0ng | if i dont use x that is |
| 04:07.47 | Agent_bob | p1ngp0ng the prefered way is --purge via the package manager |
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| 04:08.21 | p1ngp0ng | but purge doesnt remove the gnome leftovers |
| 04:08.30 | Supaplex | otherwise you'll eat <confmiss> some day later. |
| 04:08.32 | p1ngp0ng | it does jack shit really |
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| 04:08.54 | Agent_bob | dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii |
| 04:08.54 | dpkg | No packages found matching | grep -v ^ii |
| 04:09.03 | Supaplex | p1ngp0ng: try dpkg -S /etc/gnome/* to see if there are other files too |
| 04:09.04 | Agent_bob | heh. bot eeh. |
| 04:09.17 | oklinux | what apps do I need to install to see my wireless card in debian ? |
| 04:09.24 | Agent_bob | p1ngp0ng command dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii |
| 04:09.26 | s3a | Agent_bob: it appeared to be going good bcuz it asked me if i wanted to continue but it said keeping it mounted could cause severe fiesystem damage so i unmountded it and did fsck /dev/sda1 again and it didn't pop anything important up |
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| 04:09.52 | Agent_bob | s3a i told you to dismount it first. |
| 04:10.10 | s3a | Agent_bob: wats dismount? is it not the same as unmount? |
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| 04:10.21 | Agent_bob | what is unmount ? |
| 04:10.39 | Agent_bob | command umount dismounts filesystems |
| 04:11.03 | Supaplex | is permasunday over yet? |
| 04:11.16 | Jyzygzy- | http://www.collegehumor.com/video:248340 Debian startup should be like that by default |
| 04:11.29 | p1ngp0ng | that command gave me a long list of apps it seems Agent_bob |
| 04:12.01 | edwin_quijada | Agent_bob: Thks!!! |
| 04:12.02 | s3a | Agent_bob: i did unmount /dev/sda1 and it worked but then fsck doesnt ask me to continue for repairing |
| 04:12.26 | p1ngp0ng | it alot of things which i dont need at all |
| 04:12.27 | Agent_bob | p1ngp0ng all propperly installed things should list as ^ii so all the rest you might consider purging or repairing |
| 04:12.42 | oklinux | Agent_bob, can I ask you a ? |
| 04:12.53 | Agent_bob | oklinux you just did |
| 04:13.01 | p1ngp0ng | Agent_bob: rc is what i see |
| 04:13.06 | Supaplex | !tell oklinux -about ask |
| 04:13.07 | Agent_bob | :) |
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| 04:13.18 | Agent_bob | p1ngp0ng removed configured |
| 04:13.27 | Supaplex | Agent_bob: nope. it's still permasunday. :( |
| 04:13.40 | oklinux | my debian does not see my wireless card and windows do fresh install. Agent_bob |
| 04:13.47 | Agent_bob | Supaplex ? |
| 04:14.02 | Supaplex | !permasunday |
| 04:14.03 | dpkg | All days in #debian will remain Sunday until further notice. Unfortunately, outside #debian the world keeps turning, so you still have to get up and go to work. Welcome to PermaTardsday! http://www.lyricsfreak.com/m/morrissey/96007.html |
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| 04:14.33 | p1ngp0ng | Agent_bob: that means its not on my system anymore? |
| 04:14.38 | oklinux | and another thing I installed mozilla firefox and I cant find the icon anywhere Agent_bob |
| 04:14.40 | Agent_bob | oh kay . . . |
| 04:15.04 | Agent_bob | p1ngp0ng it means the package is removed and the configs remain |
| 04:15.36 | p1ngp0ng | ah, so in other words, i can safely rm -rf the /etc/gnome folder |
| 04:15.53 | Agent_bob | oklinux sorry you are out of my scope there. i seldom ever use a gui and don't have any wireless |
| 04:16.27 | Agent_bob | p1ngp0ng full circle the prefered methood is to use --purge with the package manager |
| 04:16.33 | oklinux | this is on a laptop |
| 04:17.03 | Agent_bob | oklinux doesn't change my ignorance one iota |
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| 04:17.58 | Agent_bob | sujest (suggest for the spelling nazi type) you ask someone else. and i'll ignore that convo. |
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| 04:20.27 | Agent_bob | can someone help oklinux ? |
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| 04:27.26 | Trailer | Hi folks. |
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| 04:27.59 | Trailer | I have been observing a number of immigrants wearing sanitary gloves whilst working the cash register. |
| 04:28.05 | Trailer | Kind of unusual. |
| 04:28.09 | Trailer | Any ideas per the rationale? |
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| 04:29.15 | Agent_bob | money is dirty ? |
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| 04:29.47 | Trailer | Agent_bob, No, that can't be it. |
| 04:29.56 | Agent_bob | :) |
| 04:30.36 | Trailer | Agent_bob, They are food-service personnel. Were that it, they would change their gloves when returning to handle food and food-related items. |
| 04:31.17 | Trailer | Agent_bob, They are wearing gloves, but I can't figure out why, really. |
| 04:31.39 | Trailer | Agent_bob, You suppose they are just trying to protect themselves from the dirty money and the slimy food? |
| 04:32.31 | Trailer | I noticed that Mape Leaf just recently had a serious bacterial outbreak. |
| 04:32.45 | Trailer | The press at some venues is blaming the immigrant employees. |
| 04:33.19 | Trailer | I wonder if there is any substance to that postulate. |
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| 04:33.36 | Agent_bob | Trailer they are "susposed" to change between handling food and handeling .* |
| 04:33.41 | Trailer | Sometimes the immigrants just barely understand English and do not really know what they are doing or should be doing. |
| 04:33.58 | valdyn | !offtopic |
| 04:33.58 | dpkg | A little off-topic conversation is okay here and there, but not too much, and not when the channel's busy, and not if it's your primary reason for being here. please join #debian-offtopic on irc.freenode.net |
| 04:34.31 | Trailer | dpkg, Strangely, it is reporting I am "banned" from that channel. |
| 04:34.32 | dpkg | Trailer: I think you lost me on that one |
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| 04:35.27 | Agent_bob | i'm banned from this one. so i have to set my username to start with ~ |
| 04:36.34 | p1ngp0ng | hmm, how large is a full debian install? i mean, if you apt-get install _everything_ in the repository |
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| 04:37.02 | jcesar | hi |
| 04:37.05 | jcesar | someone I can recommend a good music player for Linux that is not amarok |
| 04:37.27 | Agent_bob | p1ngp0ng you can't, some things will conflict and you'll have to choose between packages. |
| 04:37.43 | Agent_bob | jcesar vlc |
| 04:38.11 | SpeedyG | jcesar: audacious, vlc, mplayer |
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| 04:39.14 | p1ngp0ng | hmmf. my host promised me remote reboot. but its not working :Ã¥\ |
| 04:39.24 | p1ngp0ng | :\ |
| 04:40.09 | jcesar | someone I can recommend a good music player for Linux that is not amarok |
| 04:40.34 | Trailer | Adolf Hitler harnessed the repressed racism of his people. |
| 04:40.45 | Trailer | And what a powerful force that was. |
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| 04:41.02 | p1ngp0ng | what was the init command for a regualar reboot? |
| 04:41.03 | Agent_bob | didn't know it was repressed |
| 04:41.05 | p1ngp0ng | init 9*? |
| 04:41.16 | Agent_bob | init 6 |
| 04:41.21 | p1ngp0ng | thanks |
| 04:41.34 | Agent_bob | or on my system init 0 but that's normally power off |
| 04:41.53 | p1ngp0ng | yeh, power off, that i actually knew :P |
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| 04:42.05 | p1ngp0ng | aah it worked |
| 04:42.09 | p1ngp0ng | its rebooting. |
| 04:42.26 | p1ngp0ng | now i just hope i can connect to it when its finished :Ã
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| 04:43.54 | p1ngp0ng | :) |
| 04:44.21 | Supaplex | reboot? what's that? |
| 04:45.26 | p1ngp0ng | nothing, just something us with big dicks gotta to from time to time |
| 04:46.13 | Supaplex | sounds kinky |
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| 04:51.36 | arina | When Debian is booting up there are a bunch of errors, are these errors saved to a log file anywhere? |
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| 04:53.08 | arina | they go by too fast so I can't see what they say |
| 04:53.11 | p1ngp0ng | dmesg > /home/user/logfile |
| 04:53.20 | p1ngp0ng | if i recall correctly |
| 04:53.41 | vk5foss | arina: depend what stage, and where. dmesg or syslog will tell you probably |
| 04:53.56 | p1ngp0ng | that should make a file called logfile containing the boot errors |
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| 04:55.45 | Agent_bob | i'm confused about tzconfig 12 gmt+ is west ? and gmt- is east ??? |
| 04:56.26 | p1ngp0ng | im + and i live in western europe |
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| 04:57.05 | Agent_bob | p1ngp0ng are you sure that's the way tzconfig reads it ? |
| 04:57.17 | p1ngp0ng | no |
| 04:57.28 | p1ngp0ng | but it's logical |
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| 04:57.59 | Agent_bob | i agree that gmt+ should be eastward but according to tzconfig it's not. |
| 04:58.36 | p1ngp0ng | heh. if that isnt confuzing i dont know what is |
| 04:59.05 | Agent_bob | is confused plenty |
| 05:00.21 | Agent_bob | i guess the author thought something like "gmt is 8 hours ahead of me so that's gmt+8 duh! " hehhe. |
| 05:00.52 | Agent_bob | just don't forget the duh! it's important. |
| 05:01.35 | Supaplex | well duh |
| 05:01.39 | Supaplex | I mean.. |
| 05:01.43 | Agent_bob | see |
| 05:01.45 | Agent_bob | :) |
| 05:02.14 | Agent_bob | with out the duh! that would have had a whole different menaing. |
| 05:02.21 | Agent_bob | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:03.49 | Agent_bob | this box doesn't have a root |
| 05:04.42 | Ariana- | ? |
| 05:05.04 | Agent_bob | ?? |
| 05:05.06 | Ariana- | dont all linux boxes have a root? |
| 05:05.14 | Agent_bob | not this one |
| 05:05.21 | Ariana- | well unless you edit it out of/etc/passwd or /etc/shadow |
| 05:05.35 | Ariana- | but even then you can use a restore disk and login to root without an account |
| 05:05.43 | Ariana- | what did you do to it? |
| 05:05.53 | Agent_bob | passwd shadow is only used for checking the password |
| 05:05.53 | Supaplex | you break it, you support it! hah :p |
| 05:05.56 | arina | p1ngp0ng, vk5foss: hmm, no luck with those, I am trying to set up an LDAP server, the message I see say something about "failed to connect to LDAP" or something like that, couldn't find them with dmesg or syslog |
| 05:06.20 | Supaplex | speaking of ldap, that's looking good about now. humm |
| 05:06.22 | vk5foss | arina: check slapd.log |
| 05:06.24 | Agent_bob | Supaplex it's not broke |
| 05:06.29 | Agent_bob | it's tweeked |
| 05:06.39 | Agent_bob | like duh! |
| 05:06.41 | Supaplex | s/break/tweak0r/ |
| 05:06.49 | Supaplex | my bad. :) |
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| 05:06.58 | Ariana- | agent_Bob is it one of those messed up ubuntu systems that comes with no root account? |
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| 05:08.10 | Agent_bob | Ariana- hehhe ubuntu has a root account. just the password is locked for the root account. all my passwords are locked and i dont have a root account |
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| 05:08.33 | Supaplex | is http://www.spi-inc.org/secretary/spi-cacert.crt/view the certs here in a debian package? |
| 05:09.38 | arina | vk5foss, thanks for your help! I didn't have slapd.log, but found it under auth.log :) |
| 05:09.50 | arina | thanks also p1ngp0ng |
| 05:09.51 | vk5foss | arina: ah, good oh :) |
| 05:10.47 | Agent_bob | my sudoers file has only one line in it... is that normal ? |
| 05:11.06 | arina | Ariana-: lol, I thought for a second you were me, and I was thinking 'what's going on, I didn't say those words' ;) |
| 05:11.09 | vk5foss | you can setup etch (not sure about later) to use sudo instead of having a root account |
| 05:11.18 | Agent_bob | lol |
| 05:12.10 | Agent_bob | vk5foss no. if you don't have a root account sudo wont work. |
| 05:12.19 | Agent_bob | sudo: no passwd entry for root! |
| 05:12.33 | Agent_bob | you get that error message ^ |
| 05:12.42 | LeoDing | how to install sound driver on icewm ? |
| 05:13.10 | enouf | sudo passwd root |
| 05:13.13 | enouf | done |
| 05:13.20 | Agent_bob | LeoDing you mean run esd arts pulsaudio or some other sound server ? |
| 05:13.22 | vk5foss | sigh. s/have a root/ use a root/ |
| 05:13.24 | vk5foss | happy |
| 05:13.26 | vk5foss | ? |
| 05:13.39 | enouf | LeoDing: erm, you don't need a WM to install sound drivers/modules |
| 05:13.39 | Agent_bob | yeah |
| 05:13.44 | enouf | nor software |
| 05:13.59 | LeoDing | enouf: why? |
| 05:14.58 | enouf | LeoDing: why not? |
| 05:15.24 | enouf | LeoDing: /msg dpkg alsa checklist |
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| 05:17.04 | Agent_bob | LeoDing i was assuming you were talking about a sound server. for inserting modules the command is the same where ever you are. modprobe snd-<yourmodule> |
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| 05:21.51 | Agent_bob | this is not an error this is a feature http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d3a7a2090 ;/ |
| 05:22.06 | Trailer | Sometimes there are old, long-abandoned buildings and portions of buildings. |
| 05:22.28 | Trailer | These present ideal opportunities for the motivated investor. |
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| 05:29.08 | Agent_bob | what would be calling modprobe and getting this ? modprobe: FATAL: Error inserting apm (/lib/modules/2.6.18-6-686/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/apm.ko): No such device modprobe: FATAL: Error inserting apm (/lib/modules/2.6.18-6-686/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/apm.ko): No such device |
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| 05:29.25 | Agent_bob | i'm thinking that came from starting up X |
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| 05:29.55 | Trailer | There are people dying by the thousands in Africa and elsewhere. |
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| 05:30.51 | Trailer | But there was a young woman talking on the phone. She said, "He wrote, 'I miss you so much.'" |
| 05:31.09 | Agent_bob | i know a bot that could die. |
| 05:31.32 | Trailer | "Ugh. Why does he have to be like that? Yeah, I know. It would be fine if he were like, 'Hi. How are you?' But what am I supposed to say? I miss you too??" |
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| 05:42.49 | enouf | Agent_bob: having apm issues? |
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| 05:44.07 | Agent_bob | enouf no xorg issues that's just an error message it's spewing |
| 05:44.45 | enouf | oh ..hrm |
| 05:45.34 | Agent_bob | i don't seem to be starting a window manager. and thus xorg is just closing. |
| 05:45.43 | enouf | Agent_bob: that is totally not right :-P xorg inserting kernel modules? hrmm... i wonder what your xorg.conf looks like :-P |
| 05:46.50 | Agent_bob | http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d2f9dac32 |
| 05:46.57 | Agent_bob | have a read ^ |
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| 05:48.33 | enouf | Agent_bob: now how about the Xorg.0.log and what isn't installed that should be? |
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| 05:50.47 | Agent_bob | enouf all installed. http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d27674306 it's not x it's something wrong with the way i'm startring blackbox it's failing and so xorg is just shuting down. |
| 05:50.53 | Agent_bob | i'll figure it out. |
| 05:50.55 | Nyle | yo |
| 05:51.04 | Nyle | how stable is lenny atm |
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| 05:52.07 | Supaplex | " this stable " |
| 05:52.28 | enouf | Agent_bob: well, check into any odd /etc/apm crap, and your BIOS settings even - how about cat /proc/cmdline ? any options at boot? |
| 05:53.36 | Agent_bob | no options. i found the actual problem though. not related to the missing module /usr/bin/blackbox: /usr/bin/blackbox: cannot execute binary file |
| 05:53.47 | Agent_bob | that's why xorg is closing |
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| 05:54.10 | enouf | Agent_bob: xinitrc or xsession? |
| 05:54.22 | Agent_bob | why it's spewing out that error about modprobe is not really concerning me. |
| 05:54.27 | Agent_bob | enouf no command line |
| 05:55.34 | Agent_bob | su - Agent_bob -- blackbox -display :0 is where that error fell from the can't exec one. |
| 05:55.53 | enouf | haha, the xorg log has no (EE) ,.. so , it's working fine ;) |
| 05:56.14 | Agent_bob | enouf yes i said that way up ^ there |
| 05:56.39 | enouf | 663. (WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory) 664. (II) No APM support in BIOS or kernel |
| 05:56.50 | enouf | Agent_bob: how old is that box? |
| 05:57.00 | Agent_bob | idk. |
| 05:57.10 | enouf | 2000 ? |
| 05:57.16 | Agent_bob | i get that on several boxen tho |
| 05:57.25 | Agent_bob | ummm maybe |
| 05:57.38 | enouf | gah ,, my shift key is starting to stick .. grah |
| 05:57.49 | Nyle | hey |
| 05:57.53 | crazyhead | buy a new one |
| 05:57.53 | crazyhead | :) |
| 05:57.54 | Nyle | why do vim and emacs suck |
| 05:57.56 | Nyle | seriously |
| 05:58.04 | Nyle | whats this shit with command mode and insert mode bullcrap |
| 05:58.05 | enouf | Agent_bob: try booting with acpi=force - bit save a dmesg now, and compare after |
| 05:58.06 | Nyle | jeez |
| 05:58.18 | enouf | haha |
| 05:58.42 | Supaplex | !sucks |
| 05:58.43 | dpkg | Blow me! oh my bad. Were you considering contributing a patch, or filing a wishlist bug for that? http://kevininscoe.com/pub/whaaambulance.jpg |
| 05:58.56 | Supaplex | ^5's enouf |
| 05:59.15 | enouf | sup supa ;-) |
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| 05:59.38 | Nyle | so i try emacs for a while or vim |
| 05:59.47 | Supaplex | there's an open source conf next week in my area. I get all those days off as PTO :) |
| 05:59.53 | enouf | crazyhead: keyboard is like one month old |
| 06:00.14 | Supaplex | !start an editor war |
| 06:00.15 | dpkg | ae doesn't deserve to be in debian |
| 06:00.21 | enouf | crazyhead: last one i had --> 8 years?? oh no wait, i swapped a few out |
| 06:00.35 | enouf | everything is just built like CRAP these days |
| 06:00.38 | EmleyMoor | is hopefully going to be able to order his new computer this week |
| 06:01.02 | enouf | Supaplex: nice ;-) |
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| 06:01.30 | enouf | speaking of whiich .. hrm .. i need to do some hardware shopping and keep forgetting .. lmao |
| 06:01.56 | EmleyMoor | I've even chosen a new keyboard in the interests of modernisation |
| 06:02.21 | crazyhead | hmm |
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| 06:02.46 | crazyhead | iam wordless now :D |
| 06:03.23 | Supaplex | kills off clippy |
| 06:03.42 | Supaplex | crazyhead: speaking of wordless, if you have flash installed, search for winrg.swf |
| 06:04.00 | Agent_bob | ok it's probably related to the missing root account. user can run "blackbox -display ':0'" but other user can't "su - username -- blackbox -display ':0'" it errors out with "/usr/bin/blackbox: /usr/bin/blackbox: cannot execute binary file" anyone agree with the diagknosis ? |
| 06:04.32 | enouf | oh ;-) found one http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=206152497 |
| 06:04.40 | crazyhead | how old is that joke? :P |
| 06:04.43 | Supaplex | Agent_bob: ls -l /usr/bin/blackbox |
| 06:04.54 | Agent_bob | Supaplex why ? |
| 06:04.57 | Supaplex | crazyhead: it's timeless |
| 06:05.07 | Agent_bob | user a can execute it just fine |
| 06:05.18 | crazyhead | my vista64 just runs and runs :P |
| 06:05.21 | crazyhead | without any problems |
| 06:05.21 | crazyhead | ;D |
| 06:05.29 | Supaplex | Agent_bob: try sh -x `which blackbox` |
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| 06:06.26 | Agent_bob | Supaplex why use sh -d just plain `which blackbox` works |
| 06:06.34 | Agent_bob | -x |
| 06:06.41 | Supaplex | I said -x |
| 06:06.59 | Supaplex | try it on the failed senario. it's to isolate where the error is spitting out from |
| 06:07.00 | smultron | is there some special trick to get xfce to run in a VNC session? i added `startxfce4` to the .vnc/xstartup but it never loads... |
| 06:07.01 | Agent_bob | Supaplex but what are you trying to test ? |
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| 06:07.07 | enouf | oh wait .. i want a 120mm fan? .. no .. that's PSUs and case fans only? hrm .. |
| 06:08.01 | Agent_bob | as you say... /bin/sh: /bin/sh: cannot execute binary file |
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| 06:08.34 | Supaplex | Agent_bob: what's the id of the username? that's odd... |
| 06:08.53 | Agent_bob | Supaplex id ? uid ? |
| 06:08.56 | Agent_bob | 0 |
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| 06:09.04 | enouf | gah Offer valid from 8/17/2008 to 8/25/2008 |
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| 06:09.26 | enouf | the fucker just posted it yesterday? wtf? |
| 06:09.39 | Supaplex | Agent_bob: what's in /root ? ls -la any dotfiles you can move/rename? maybe you need a rescue disk of the root account is inaccessible. |
| 06:09.50 | Agent_bob | Supaplex there is no /root |
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| 06:10.09 | Agent_bob | Supaplex it's not a local config issue |
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| 06:10.36 | enouf | Supaplex: leave the weirdo alone ..he's on some ubuntu or someshit |
| 06:10.46 | Supaplex | strace might tell you more, but I'm lost. |
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| 06:10.56 | Agent_bob | Supaplex i'm pretty well convinced it's the absense of root that's causing it. |
| 06:11.04 | Agent_bob | enouf debian etch |
| 06:11.06 | enouf | i have no idea, other than it's a messs that |
| 06:11.14 | enouf | i have no idea, other than it's a messs that's easily resolved |
| 06:11.25 | enouf | etch has root ;-) |
| 06:11.32 | Agent_bob | not this etch |
| 06:11.40 | Supaplex | a missing /root shoudn't really cause /bin/sh to not execute. how the fsck do you run /bin/sh when there is no /root? just fine thanks! |
| 06:11.43 | enouf | like i said - see last comment |
| 06:12.01 | Supaplex | hands Agent_bob EFAIL and walks away |
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| 06:12.34 | enouf | it's not etch then |
| 06:12.34 | Agent_bob | Supaplex not /root user root and i may have to adduser root to fix this one. |
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| 06:12.58 | Agent_bob | enouf oh any change to the system and it's no longer blah eh ? |
| 06:13.10 | iwkse | hi all, any debian maintainer? I would like to know why i can't have both libetpan-dev and libraptor1-dev. I have one program that uses the first library and another that uses the second. |
| 06:13.32 | enouf | Agent_bob: why not rm libc6 too? :-) |
| 06:13.44 | Agent_bob | enouf cause it wont run that way |
| 06:13.48 | enouf | haha |
| 06:13.51 | Agent_bob | :) |
| 06:13.54 | Supaplex | Agent_bob: well did you run "id root" ? if you already know the problem, why are we going in circles? why are we going in circles? why are we going in circles? why are we going in circles? why are we going in circles? why are we going in circles? |
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| 06:14.22 | enouf | Supaplex: in search of pie ? :-P |
| 06:14.24 | Agent_bob | Supaplex i will just for your id root |
| 06:14.24 | Agent_bob | id: root: No such user |
| 06:14.46 | Supaplex | rescue to the rescue. |
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| 06:14.51 | Supaplex | !tell Agent_bob -about rescue |
| 06:15.10 | Agent_bob | i don't need that. |
| 06:15.19 | Supaplex | and I'm not sure I trust adduser to do it for me. |
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| 06:15.47 | Supaplex | why not? |
| 06:15.53 | enouf | iwkse: do the Depends say they conflict? |
| 06:16.17 | iwkse | enouf: it's like that. i notice libraptor1 depends on libcurl |
| 06:16.27 | iwkse | while libetpan depends on openssl |
| 06:16.30 | iwkse | if i don't wrong |
| 06:16.54 | iwkse | yes i wrong |
| 06:17.02 | iwkse | there's no relation |
| 06:17.06 | enouf | hrm .. i don't know offhand naturally, just thinking check the changelogs? check BTS? |
| 06:17.27 | iwkse | i'll check it better in few min |
| 06:18.11 | iwkse | actually appends that when i install libraptor1-dev it removes libetpan-dev |
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| 06:18.19 | iwkse | and it does doing the contrary too |
| 06:18.48 | enouf | iwkse: i would think you could emial the maintainer and ask, but naturally there are 1000s of them .. so .. you can't expect each maintainer to know another's pkg specifcs :-) |
| 06:18.54 | iwkse | needs some liters of coffee now |
| 06:19.14 | iwkse | enouf: yes:) i'll try that |
| 06:19.25 | enouf | well the debian/rules file should have info, if not the .dsc is it? |
| 06:19.38 | iwkse | yes, this would help |
| 06:19.41 | iwkse | let me check |
| 06:20.33 | enouf | crap, maybe i meant the control file .. darnnit, i'm hungry |
| 06:20.49 | Supaplex | !feed enouf |
| 06:20.50 | dpkg | feeds enouf to the crocs. |
| 06:20.55 | Supaplex | o.O |
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| 06:23.40 | iwkse | Depends: libetpan13 (= 0.54-3), libdb-dev, libgnutls-dev, liblockfile-dev, libsasl2-dev, libexpat1-dev, libcurl4-gnutls-dev (>= 7.16.4-5) |
| 06:23.42 | iwkse | Depends: libcurl4-openssl-dev, libraptor1 (= 1.4.17-1), libxml2-dev (>= 2.5.10), libxslt1-dev (>= 1.0.18), pkg-config (>= 0.18) |
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| 06:24.29 | iwkse | the conflict seems to be libcurl4-openssl-dev, libcurl4-gnutls-dev |
| 06:24.31 | iwkse | :) |
| 06:25.26 | Agent_bob | hmmmm i don't know about this. maybe this debain etch's su simply doesn't support the features i'm accustom to |
| 06:25.39 | Agent_bob | debian even |
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| 06:29.27 | jaek | anyone got their bluetooth mouse working on lenny/sid? |
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| 06:32.03 | Agent_bob | ok it wasn't the missing root account. so su is just weak and can't do things like "su - somebody -- blackbox -display ':0'" |
| 06:32.28 | Agent_bob | i'll have to devise another methood of starting a gui or not use one at all. |
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| 06:36.12 | jaek | i'm trying to get my bluetooth mouse working but the services list in the gnome bluetooth applet is empty |
| 06:36.17 | jaek | anyone know anything about this? |
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| 06:38.43 | Agent_bob | it is indeed an su issue. if i make a script and put the command in there it works but it can't call the command dirrectly. that's probably suposed to be a security feature. imo it's a bug. |
| 06:39.52 | Agent_bob | su - anyuser -- some/elf/binary and it will fail make a script called boo with some/elf/binary in it and run su - anyuser -- boo and it works like a charm. |
| 06:40.34 | Agent_bob | so is that a bug or a feature ? |
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| 06:40.55 | Guerin | sounds like a bug to me |
| 06:41.08 | Guerin | of course, a bug is just a feature which isn't properly documented :) |
| 06:42.47 | ZOP | soudns like a bug regarding LD_LIBRARY_PATH or similar |
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| 06:43.05 | ZOP | ld ... will cause an incorrect/misinformational path not found error when it can't find a library |
| 06:43.11 | ZOP | well libld |
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| 06:44.38 | ZOP | i'll admit i've been drinking tonight, and have self revoked root privs so i can't remember the name of the loader |
| 06:44.48 | ZOP | but that is quite possibly the problem. |
| 06:44.55 | ZOP | for you Agent_bob. |
| 06:45.14 | Agent_bob | ZOP yeah i was reading. |
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| 06:46.57 | Agent_bob | you did see the error message didn't you? su - username -- binary yelds error message /path/to/binary: /path/to/binary: can't execute binary file. you can test with something like sh or bash |
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| 06:48.07 | Agent_bob | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:48.35 | Agent_bob | that ^ from command su - Agent_bob -- sh |
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| 06:49.54 | Agent_bob | echo 'echo boo' > script.sh ;chmod 755 script.sh ;su - username -- ./script.sh <<< that works though. |
| 06:50.49 | Agent_bob | as long as the path is correct that is :) |
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| 06:53.15 | ZOP | yeah. not sure whats going on exactly. i've never run into exactly this...i've definitely gotten the path to binary issue when the LD_LIBRARY_PATH was fubar-ed somehow though, thats the only thing i can think of at the moment. |
| 06:53.44 | ZOP | whats ldd say (binutils package) or echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH (might even be unset) |
| 06:53.47 | ZOP | just guessing though |
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| 06:55.16 | ZOP | anyway sleep for me |
| 06:56.03 | Supaplex | ahh fooey. $ xclock -digital -twelve -brief -bg transparent -fg grey |
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| 07:00.24 | mcgreg | how do I set a script to be executable by a user which has root rights? |
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| 07:01.13 | wols_ | mcgreg: make it world executable |
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| 07:06.18 | Agent_bob | mcgreg you can either have the user own the script and set the owner executable bit or group or world depends on the way you want it to behave really |
| 07:06.57 | Agent_bob | i added a shell wrapper and thus worked around my su issue. so that's another problem solved |
| 07:07.03 | Agent_bob | for now. |
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| 08:03.21 | the_plumber | hello all, im looking for a low-latency cross-platform chat program for gaming, looked at "mumble" but im not big on cpp, any suggestions? |
| 08:05.05 | tralala | Shadur, so the problem is somewhere else. What about these logs? |
| 08:05.14 | OpenTokix | the_plumber: whats wrong with irc? |
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| 08:05.55 | the_plumber | OpenTokix: well, i was looking for something more or less along the lines of being able to run it alongside of quake |
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| 08:06.14 | the_plumber | oh, i meant "audio chat" |
| 08:06.36 | the_plumber | like roger wilco or ventrillo, but opensource and cross-platform |
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| 08:09.15 | OpenTokix | the_plumber: oh |
| 08:09.18 | OpenTokix | the_plumber: voice =) |
| 08:09.46 | the_plumber | OpenTokix: i took a look at mumble.sourceforge.net but that seems pretty unpolished |
| 08:10.03 | the_plumber | and i dont know cpp, so i wouldnt be able to do anything with it |
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| 08:10.56 | HNSZ | HI |
| 08:11.37 | HNSZ | I wish to add the gd2 library to my php. But is this save? |
| 08:11.59 | HNSZ | I need a coffee |
| 08:12.55 | HNSZ | I meant to ask can Aptitude install something a kernel module? How do I detect that something is installed as a kernel module? |
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| 08:13.32 | breakz | Irssi: Failed to execute /usr/bin/mrtg-ip-acct: No such file or directory |
| 08:13.43 | breakz | any help pls? it keeps spamming my statuswindow :( |
| 08:14.00 | breakz | was after loading piglet script(?) but i cant seem to unload it or w/e |
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| 08:17.33 | IspettoreTombale | hi |
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| 08:17.51 | IspettoreTombale | please help I could not remove dirmngr package: Stopping DirMngr: dirmngr/usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d: line 446: 30601 Terminated "${INITDPREFIX}${INITSCRIPTID}" "${saction}" "$@" |
| 08:17.51 | IspettoreTombale | invoke-rc.d: initscript dirmngr, action "stop" failed. |
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| 08:18.05 | IspettoreTombale | dpkg exit with error |
| 08:18.06 | dpkg | IspettoreTombale: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
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| 08:21.32 | et | !doesn't work |
| 08:21.33 | dpkg | Look buddy, "doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message". |
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| 08:22.51 | HNSZ | I'm not your buddy friend |
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| 08:26.25 | HNSZ | I wish to add the gd2 library to my php. |
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| 08:26.42 | HNSZ | Can Aptitude install something a kernel module? How do I detect that something is installed as a kernel module? |
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| 08:27.01 | MrWax | What do you guys consider the best mail server application for linux? Postfix? |
| 08:27.19 | HNSZ | suirrelmail |
| 08:27.20 | drazak | postfix is indeed good |
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| 08:27.40 | simNIX | qmail has my preference |
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| 08:31.59 | IspettoreTombale | please I can't remove dirmngr package on lenny... |
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| 08:32.04 | IspettoreTombale | help me :) |
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| 08:35.38 | baf_ | hello |
| 08:36.05 | baf_ | pls can anyone suggest way, how to install debian repo of cupsys with no x11 dependency? |
| 08:36.26 | baf_ | that's a server box and x11 is not welcome here |
| 08:36.28 | baf_ | there |
| 08:36.54 | OpenTokix | baf_: dont' confuse xbase-clients with x11 =) |
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| 08:38.33 | MrWax | in which file can I check again which ips have accessed my apache server? |
| 08:38.46 | moshii | MrWax: the access log |
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| 08:40.25 | baf_ | OpenTokix : I think the package is libx11-6 and the desc is it x11 client library |
| 08:41.27 | OpenTokix | baf_: ok, don't worry about it |
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| 08:42.32 | fantasticmrfox | Lo, is there a quick graphical VPN client for pptd on debian? if so whats the package name called? |
| 08:42.43 | fantasticmrfox | pptp |
| 08:43.39 | baf_ | OpenTokix : no no other way. Just recompile without x or going with x11 dependency |
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| 08:43.50 | baf_ | OpenTokix : oko other way. Just recompile without x or going with x11 dependency |
| 08:44.13 | OpenTokix | recompile - bleh |
| 08:44.29 | baf_ | OpenTokix exactly bleh |
| 08:44.35 | OpenTokix | so why bother? |
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| 08:45.37 | baf_ | OpenTokix wanted to keep os x11 free |
| 08:45.37 | MrWax | moshii: where is that to be found? |
| 08:45.41 | OpenTokix | baf_: Sounds like a hang up to me |
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| 08:46.21 | baf_ | OpenTokix : :-)) |
| 08:46.26 | citizen42alpha | hello merry folks. |
| 08:46.40 | baf_ | OpenTokix : anyway thanks |
| 08:46.45 | baf_ | bye |
| 08:46.53 | baf_ | quit |
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| 08:49.12 | rmrfchik | is here any with asus p5k. I want to check /proc/asound/card0/codec#0 file |
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| 08:53.48 | fl0w | rmrfchik: yea, but not at that computer currently |
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| 08:57.25 | vlt | Hello. I want to install Debian on a Raid/LVM system. Can I create two partitions on /dev/md0 (one for ext3 /boot, one as PV for LVM) or do I need to create two Raid devices (/dev/md0 for /boot and /dev/md1 as PV for LVM)? |
| 08:57.30 | rmrfchik | fl0w: when u will put your hand on the box? |
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| 08:57.59 | fl0w | no idea, sorry, probably after midnight tonight... |
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| 08:59.26 | AbsintheSyringe | is it normal that no one can connect to my notebook, but I can connect to whoever I want pretty much, thinkpad x300, lenny |
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| 09:03.01 | Somni | AbsintheSyringe: yes, depending on how your firewall is setup |
| 09:04.04 | AbsintheSyringe | Somni, I don't like that, what do you mean? hcid.conf? How can I let people to be able to connect onto this notebook |
| 09:04.21 | petemc | AbsintheSyringe: connect how? |
| 09:04.56 | Somni | er, hcid.conf? no |
| 09:04.59 | AbsintheSyringe | petemc, let's say I with my sony ericsson w960 (symbian) can't connect to my notebooks |
| 09:05.13 | AbsintheSyringe | same goes with any other sony ericsson (solaris) or for that matter any nokia or any phone |
| 09:05.20 | AbsintheSyringe | actually |
| 09:05.25 | petemc | bluetooth? |
| 09:05.32 | AbsintheSyringe | I can't see my notebook when I'm trying to look for the devices |
| 09:05.38 | AbsintheSyringe | petemc, yup |
| 09:07.10 | AbsintheSyringe | how can I configure my bluetooth on my notebook, so other bluetooth devices can see me, if that's a better question |
| 09:07.51 | miksuh | abiare you using gnome and etch or lenny? |
| 09:07.59 | miksuh | in lenny + gnome it' |
| 09:08.14 | miksuh | s wery easy |
| 09:08.58 | miksuh | AbsintheSyringe: are you using gnome and etch or lenny? |
| 09:09.22 | AbsintheSyringe | miksuh, lenny, gnome |
| 09:09.30 | miksuh | well then it is wery easy |
| 09:09.46 | miksuh | you need to install gnome bluetooth stuff like |
| 09:09.50 | AbsintheSyringe | I did all that |
| 09:09.57 | AbsintheSyringe | I already transfered stuff and all that |
| 09:10.22 | AbsintheSyringe | but once I try to connect to my phone to my computer, I can't do that, because I don't see it on the list of connectible devices |
| 09:10.24 | miksuh | well then you can change the visivility of laptop in the blöuetooth settings |
| 09:10.31 | AbsintheSyringe | doesn't help |
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| 09:10.51 | miksuh | should help, works just fine with my Nokia N95 |
| 09:11.38 | AbsintheSyringe | nope, that's why I'm asking this question |
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| 09:12.15 | miksuh | here it work just fine, and if you change the visibility settings then my phone ccan see my desktop, and my laptop |
| 09:12.34 | citizen42alpha | what kernel is debian stable running ? |
| 09:12.46 | miksuh | 2.6.18 |
| 09:12.47 | AbsintheSyringe | miksuh, can you please post me your hcid.conf please |
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| 09:13.11 | miksuh | AbsintheSyringe: I have not made any manual configuration, i have just used those gnome tools |
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| 09:18.11 | miksuh | citizen42alpha: there is 2.6.24 for it too, and 2.6.25 in backports. But 2.6.18 is the default |
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| 09:19.47 | citizen42alpha | =] thanks, I was thinking about transferring my fileserver to debian. |
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| 09:22.37 | blubberdiblub | how do i create a linux-image-*-amd64 from a i386 userspace using kernel-package + linux-source-2.6.26 ? |
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| 09:28.31 | blubberdiblub | "make-kpkg --arch=amd64 ..." bails out with: /bin/sh: amd64-linux-gcc: not found |
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| 09:40.15 | blubberdiblub | nevermind, i think i found the solution. i just added a "--cross-compile=-" option |
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| 09:45.11 | berzerka | i want to tar a directory and copy it over ssh at once. will this work: tar -cf - dir/ | ssh user@host '> backup.tar' ? seems pretty odd, how would you do this? |
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| 09:47.59 | berzerka | hmm maybe i need a 'cat' on the remote side? |
| 09:48.01 | blubberdiblub | berzerka, add a cat command in front of the > |
| 09:48.04 | blubberdiblub | yes |
| 09:48.06 | berzerka | nods |
| 09:48.07 | berzerka | thanks |
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| 09:48.33 | Blackhold | hello, could someone help me on tape labeling? |
| 09:48.46 | Blackhold | I've got a little script and want to label the tapes |
| 09:48.54 | Blackhold | but don't know exactly how to do that |
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| 09:52.25 | AbsintheSyringe | miksuh, do you have a list of all the stuff you installed in order to connect to your computer from your phone |
| 09:52.52 | AbsintheSyringe | I just tried connecting to it from another notebook and I could only use it as headset, which means I only installed these services, I'm missing something |
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| 09:55.45 | cedric3 | hi i search to modify the date because when i type date i have : date mardi 26 aout 2008, 09:54:40 (UTC+0000) and i want this time 11:54:40 |
| 09:55.49 | cedric3 | thanks for your help |
| 09:56.30 | vlt | Hello. Is the following setup possible using the standard Debian installer? /dev/sda -> [partition table] -> /dev/sda2 -> [md] -> /dev/md1 -> [drbd] -> /dev/drbd0 -> [luks] -> /dev/mapper/drbd0-crypt -> [lvm2] -> /dev/mapper/vg_1-lv_root -> /root |
| 09:56.47 | vlt | '/boot is on /dev/sda1 |
| 09:57.01 | blubberdiblub | cedric3, use the touch command |
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| 09:57.27 | blubberdiblub | cedric3, oh, you mean system date? date -s yourtime |
| 09:57.27 | cedric3 | blubberdiblub : i don't understand sorry |
| 09:58.00 | cedric3 | but i want to delete this (UTC+0000) |
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| 09:58.21 | blubberdiblub | cedric3, oh, then just configure your timezone |
| 09:58.35 | cedric3 | how ? |
| 09:58.36 | cedric3 | :) |
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| 09:59.01 | cedric3 | i i try /usr/bin/tzselect but nothink |
| 09:59.20 | blubberdiblub | cedric3, try: dpkg-reconfigure tzdata |
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| 10:00.12 | vlt | sorry, "/root" should rather be "/", the root fs. |
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| 10:00.33 | cedric3 | blubberdiblub : you are the best :) it work thanks |
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| 10:00.51 | blubberdiblub | you're welcome :) |
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| 10:08.24 | MrWax | I have just installed postfix, and tested mailing with it |
| 10:08.34 | MrWax | how can I now set up an email account for my domain? for example info@domain |
| 10:09.45 | utb_diablo | alias ? |
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| 10:10.04 | utb_diablo | /etc/aliases |
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| 10:11.41 | Paul_UK | hi all. im going through the deb maintainers guide in creating my own packages. I've just done dh_make -e foo@bar.com -f ../file.tar.gz now issue I have, its a perl module. There is no Makefile rather a Makefile.pl. I get this error : Currently there is no top level Makefile. This may require additional tuning. What kind of tuning do I need to do? |
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| 10:16.29 | hjb | Hi. Question: the debian-reference, as hosted html online version on www.debian.org, is that Version 1 or Version 2? |
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| 10:18.12 | micols | i use php fusion which uses sendmail and i host a site, but the emails never reach destination, is it a good idea to relay your emails when hosting a larger site with lots of emails going out via php? |
| 10:18.30 | micols | i have no problems with sending mails myself using normal user on the machine. |
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| 10:31.46 | DjMadness | Anyone know of a good guide to follow for setting up a mail server under debian (multidomain and spamassasin), and apt-get based ? |
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| 10:33.59 | ivo_ | Moin Leute, ich muss fuer jeden User die Einlogzeit und die Besuchten Webseiten aufzeichnen und 90 Tage aufbewahren. Ich dachte an einen Proxy (Squid oder so) und an eine Datenbank. Macht das so Sinn? |
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| 10:34.36 | Octalot | !de |
| 10:34.36 | dpkg | deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de) |
| 10:34.53 | ivo_ | sorry |
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| 10:38.59 | ma3x | what's a good software (package) to record sounds/voice in debian? |
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| 10:39.13 | tarzeau | ma3x: traverso? freecycle? milkytracker? |
| 10:39.39 | ma3x | hey tarzeau can i private msg you? |
| 10:39.42 | cliff | hi everyone. Have a problem - installed banshee and after reboot the tracklist cannot be seen although the tracks are there and can be played. What can the matter be? |
| 10:39.47 | tarzeau | ma3x: no, i'm going right now |
| 10:39.59 | ma3x | o |
| 10:39.59 | ma3x | k |
| 10:40.02 | utb_diablo | DjMadness, apt-get install postfix |
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| 10:48.42 | dante_2core | good afternoon |
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| 10:52.59 | Flesje^^ | my netinstall cd doesnt find my dhcp |
| 10:53.09 | Flesje^^ | and when i give an ip by hand (while installing) it doesnt work |
| 10:53.19 | Flesje^^ | cant find network mirrors like surfnet one in NL |
| 10:53.31 | Flesje^^ | and when install is done the network card cant ping or anything |
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| 10:54.01 | danners | where can i find a list with mirrors for the sources.list ? |
| 10:54.08 | petemc | Flesje^^: it sounds like your network card isnt working |
| 10:54.43 | Flesje^^ | its a brand new motherboard |
| 10:54.45 | Flesje^^ | Asus one |
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| 10:55.01 | petemc | Flesje^^: does ifconfig -a show eth0 ? |
| 10:55.04 | Flesje^^ | yes |
| 10:55.17 | petemc | can you see anything in dmesg regarding the card? |
| 10:55.27 | Flesje^^ | link down it said |
| 10:55.43 | petemc | sounds like the link is down |
| 10:55.52 | Flesje^^ | what do you mean by that |
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| 10:56.06 | Flesje^^ | tried 2 different network cables and they worked on an other box just fine |
| 10:56.09 | Flesje^^ | only not on this one |
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| 10:56.43 | gypsym | hi |
| 10:56.51 | petemc | Flesje^^: whats it being plugged into ? |
| 10:56.53 | gypsym | there is a way to exclude file of a specified size from a tar? |
| 10:57.06 | gypsym | I want to backup all files under 10 Mb of size |
| 10:57.07 | Flesje^^ | modem and the pc |
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| 10:58.04 | petemc | Flesje^^: consult google to see if other people are using your card with your kernel version |
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| 10:58.52 | Flesje^^ | petchema_ |
| 10:58.56 | Flesje^^ | petemc --> http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Debian/2008-02/msg02098.html |
| 10:59.04 | Flesje^^ | that looks like the card isnt supported yet? |
| 10:59.07 | Flesje^^ | could that be possible? |
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| 11:00.26 | [0x41] | is r4a stable ? |
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| 11:01.50 | petemc | Flesje^^: read the follow ups |
| 11:02.27 | Flesje^^ | yes but i dont know how i can get the compilers and headers to the box now |
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| 11:03.33 | petemc | Flesje^^: it seems to indicate if you use an installer with a more recent kernel it will be supported |
| 11:03.39 | petemc | like etchnhalf |
| 11:04.08 | S-i-A | hi, i must everytime mounte the cdrom, cdrom0 manually mounten with terminal, can set automatic mount the cd room and usb device? |
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| 11:04.58 | wols_ | !automount |
| 11:04.58 | dpkg | Ask me about <gnome-volume-manager>, <kde automount>, <ivman>, <autofs> or <thunar-volman>. |
| 11:05.03 | Flesje^^ | is that a stable one petemc |
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| 11:05.26 | wols_ | Flesje^^: yes |
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| 11:05.39 | Braden` | Hello |
| 11:05.47 | S-i-A | wols_: u r the best |
| 11:05.55 | Flesje^^ | can i just install that or do i need any specific things to do |
| 11:06.43 | Braden` | I run Debian Etch on my box, and I have the mysql package which is version 5.0.32. Is there a newer version, because apt-get shows that as the latest version when I know from the mysql website that the latest version is 5.0.67. |
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| 11:08.18 | wols_ | Braden`: no. maybe backports. why do you need a newer version? |
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| 11:11.06 | Braden` | wols_: There was a buffer overrun with partial keys in a composite index that was fixed between these releases. |
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| 11:12.00 | Paul_UK | hey all, is there a way of searching debian for packages? like apt-get search package? |
| 11:12.15 | petemc | Paul_UK: /msg dpkg dearch |
| 11:12.20 | petemc | search, even |
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| 11:13.07 | Paul_UK | petemc: in debian? |
| 11:13.18 | Paul_UK | i dont really want to spend time doing it here |
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| 11:13.28 | petemc | Paul_UK: did you read what the bot told you? |
| 11:13.46 | petemc | i suspect you didnty |
| 11:15.02 | Paul_UK | petemc: well i just did /msg dpkg foo and it asked me if I was using windows lol. I was hoping it would give me instructions for a command |
| 11:15.13 | Paul_UK | other one was wish i knew, so not much help |
| 11:15.18 | petemc | !search |
| 11:15.18 | dpkg | Please search for things rather than just asking: 'apt-cache search regex'. Find which package owns a file: 'dpkg -S /bin/foo' or 'aptitude install apt-file; apt-file update; apt-file search foo'. Use http://packages.debian.org/ or '/msg dpkg find filename' if you're already here. '/msg dpkg listkeys <thing>' to find factoids containing <thing>. See http://wiki.debian.org/WhereIsIt |
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| 11:17.02 | S-i-A | wols_: i install the package and add user name and logout but isn't work automatic |
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| 11:19.04 | Flesje^^ | petemc that didnt fix now installing with EtchNHalf but nothing better happens |
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| 11:20.35 | wols_ | S-i-A: wjat is? |
| 11:20.51 | wols_ | Braden`: check security.debian.org. fixes might have been backported |
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| 11:21.30 | wols_ | Flesje^^: what network card is it? |
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| 11:22.09 | [0x41] | if i install r3 , can i update to r4 without disk ? |
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| 11:22.21 | Flesje^^ | Atheros Lan Driver 1.0.40.4 for Linux |
| 11:22.24 | S-i-A | wols_: i have gnome-volume-manager pmount installed and add username to plugdev, logout and test again dont worked automatic |
| 11:22.27 | Flesje^^ | thats on the cd from the asus motherboard |
| 11:22.41 | Flesje^^ | but i dont have any compilers installed and dont have network so a bit tricky to get those to work then |
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| 11:23.47 | [0x41] | anyone ? |
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| 11:24.46 | wols_ | [0x41]: sure. if you have inet access |
| 11:24.47 | Flesje^^ | found an very old network c ard |
| 11:25.03 | wols_ | Flesje^^: wired or wireless? |
| 11:25.07 | Flesje^^ | wired |
| 11:25.13 | [0x41] | wols_, so if i install debian r3 netinstall , i can update when my os is installed ? |
| 11:25.20 | wols_ | Flesje^^: lspci -nn output |
| 11:25.20 | Flesje^^ | hmm... |
| 11:25.29 | Flesje^^ | reinstalling now with echnhalf cd |
| 11:25.51 | wols_ | [0x41]: rX releases are all simply what's come into security.debian.org usually |
| 11:25.54 | wols_ | so yes you can |
| 11:26.09 | [0x41] | so i can update via terminal ? |
| 11:26.11 | wols_ | Flesje^^: don't need. just switch the kernel? |
| 11:26.16 | wols_ | [0x41]: yes |
| 11:26.19 | [0x41] | fantastic |
| 11:26.26 | [0x41] | thanks |
| 11:26.28 | Flesje^^ | i'm a beginner so prob thats too difficult for me :x |
| 11:26.43 | Jyzygzy- | !tuesday |
| 11:26.44 | dpkg | [tuesday] soylent green day |
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| 11:27.05 | S-i-A | any idea? |
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| 11:31.52 | pierre__ | he |
| 11:32.00 | pierre__ | hi* :-) |
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| 11:32.37 | pierre__ | i'm trying to compile a kernel module. I have linux-source-2.6.26 and linux-headers-`uname -r` (linux-headers-2.6.26-1-amd64) installed. However when make time come : "No rules to make target modules. Stop" why please ? |
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| 11:33.57 | mespejel_ | hello any tip where can i get the lastest CVS of the libdc1394 library |
| 11:34.35 | abrotman | did you check the README? |
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| 11:35.13 | mespejel_ | me? |
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| 11:35.56 | knoxy | hi all.. I was edit my bashrc and now my root account not log in.. How can I do to remove this archive? |
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| 11:36.26 | gnittor | mespejel_, http://sourceforge.net/projects/libdc1394/ |
| 11:36.30 | EmleyMoor | pierre__: What is the module? |
| 11:36.32 | MrWax | Anyone in here using Links to read a lot of content? |
| 11:36.35 | mespejel_ | nice |
| 11:36.35 | abrotman | mespejel_: yes you |
| 11:36.36 | mespejel_ | thanks |
| 11:36.36 | pierre__ | abrotman: yes no infos on it⦠|
| 11:36.43 | abrotman | pierre__: not you |
| 11:37.02 | pierre__ | EmleyMoor: ipwraw-ng |
| 11:37.17 | pierre__ | abrotman: ok ;-) |
| 11:37.20 | mespejel_ | abrotman: i just found it, so i will read for you lol.. thanks |
| 11:37.25 | simonrvn | pierre__: ask in one channel at a time, thnks. |
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| 11:37.29 | EmleyMoor | pierre__: I'm guessing it's not in Debian - so I am not sure what you could do |
| 11:37.38 | S-i-A | any one tell me? |
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| 11:38.06 | S-i-A | wols_: if don't answer me, also dont give wrong info |
| 11:38.09 | S-i-A | OK |
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| 11:38.51 | Flesje^^ | why cant i install kernel headers on etchnhalf |
| 11:39.13 | Flesje^^ | or how should i install those |
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| 11:40.03 | jester45 | via apt |
| 11:40.28 | Flesje^^ | i mean what packages do i need to install |
| 11:40.42 | jester45 | apt-cache search linux-headers- |
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| 11:41.26 | muddd | is there an internet time server I can sync my home machine with? the battery on one of my comps. is dead |
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| 11:42.53 | jester45 | muddd, pool.ntp.org for worldwide |
| 11:43.14 | muddd | jester45, ty |
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| 11:43.23 | jester45 | europe.pool.ntp.org and north-amaerican.pool-ntp.org |
| 11:43.30 | jester45 | for ones closer to you |
| 11:43.34 | jester45 | http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Servers/NTPPoolServers |
| 11:43.40 | muddd | ah even better thx |
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| 11:43.58 | pump|dR | #bash |
| 11:44.08 | Flesje^^ | how can i browse a cdrom from the terminal |
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| 11:44.21 | blubberdiblub | with "ls" |
| 11:44.25 | Flesje^^ | -.- |
| 11:44.28 | Flesje^^ | where is it located |
| 11:44.54 | pump|dR | (Flesje^^): mount it, and then us the "ls" command. |
| 11:45.07 | Flesje^^ | how to mount? |
| 11:45.43 | pump|dR | Try "mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom" |
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| 11:46.07 | Botra | hello |
| 11:46.21 | Botra | i have a problem |
| 11:46.23 | pump|dR | (Botra): Hello |
| 11:46.33 | Botra | and i think that it's grsec's fault |
| 11:46.38 | Botra | but still dont shure how to fix it |
| 11:46.49 | pete_ | i got problem too, but i guess its related to size of my cock |
| 11:47.09 | Botra | http://rula.net/488 |
| 11:47.20 | Botra | i'm happy with size of mine |
| 11:47.22 | pump|dR | (Botra): It's better to ask a specific question. |
| 11:47.33 | Botra | pump|dR i got you the link with error |
| 11:47.46 | Botra | i think that some lib are protected with pax |
| 11:47.50 | Botra | but dont know which |
| 11:47.56 | Botra | error log is foo |
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| 11:49.17 | Botra | any idea any1? |
| 11:49.41 | pump|dR | (Botra): Insert "set -xv" into /var/lib/dpkg/info/sun-java6-bin.postinst and run it again. |
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| 11:51.53 | Botra | now i get lot's of output but that's not it ; |
| 11:51.54 | Botra | ;) |
| 11:52.00 | Botra | error is still there |
| 11:52.46 | Botra | it's still the only error |
| 11:52.56 | Botra | and i'm pretty shure that some .so files are protected |
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| 11:53.44 | pump|dR | (Botra): The new output should help you diagnose the real problem. |
| 11:53.57 | Botra | well it does not |
| 11:54.22 | Botra | it's probably killed because pax doesent allow it |
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| 11:56.39 | Flesje^^ | why cant i unmount my cdrom |
| 11:58.13 | citizen42alpha | it might be in use. |
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| 11:59.38 | gnittor | anyoone know of something better than munin for monitoring servers? |
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| 12:01.32 | saimonn | gnittor: nagios ? |
| 12:01.48 | gnittor | haven't tried that |
| 12:01.51 | pump|dR | (Flesje^^): If you changed the working directory with the "cd" command to one on the CD, it's in use and can't be unmounted. |
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| 12:02.40 | pump|dR | (Flesje^^): Try "cd && umount /dev/cdrom" |
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| 12:04.28 | criso | does anyone know if backend script/software of http://packages.debian.org is available? |
| 12:04.31 | vy | Are there any relay-only MTAs that accept -s (subject) parameter? |
| 12:04.43 | Botra | umount -l |
| 12:04.44 | Botra | ;) |
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| 12:06.08 | ^shark_ | how can I see what is being typed in the console in real time |
| 12:06.18 | criso | which console? |
| 12:06.19 | abrotman | look at it? |
| 12:06.28 | criso | a vt? |
| 12:07.07 | ^shark_ | say I have 3 users all logged into the server and I want to see whatever they are typing on the console/CLI |
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| 12:07.54 | petemc | ^shark_: if they use screen you can use that to spy on them |
| 12:08.17 | criso | how are they logged in |
| 12:08.27 | ^shark_ | SSH |
| 12:08.53 | criso | well |
| 12:09.16 | criso | you could use some mitm hacks to record the stream |
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| 12:09.25 | MrWax | Anyone here experienced setting up Postfix? |
| 12:09.35 | pump|dR | ^shark_ Perhaps a key stroke logger would do it. |
| 12:09.37 | criso | I dont know if sshd has an option to log the session |
| 12:10.10 | ^shark_ | pump|dR: something like that |
| 12:10.26 | pump|dR | (MrWax): Unless I'm misytaken, there's a postfix IRC channel. |
| 12:10.46 | Internat | no one is answering him in there.. |
| 12:11.10 | petemc | plenty of people here know postfix, might as well ask the real question |
| 12:11.40 | pump|dR | (MrWax): Perhaps you could find an answer by searching Google. |
| 12:12.10 | pump|dR | (MrWax): What petemc said. |
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| 12:14.01 | saimonn | ^shark_: apt-cache show ttysnoop # looks like what you're looking for |
| 12:14.18 | petemc | does it work with ssh? |
| 12:15.27 | saimonn | I guess it does |
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| 12:27.53 | thrope | hi - i'm having trouble turning on debugging for named - tried kill -SIGUSR1 pid but nothing doing... can't find the file in /var/tmp - does debian (3.1) put it somewhere else by default? |
| 12:29.20 | pete_ | thrope: start BIND with 'named -g'. Otherwise you need to add some parameters to named.conf |
| 12:30.25 | thrope | are you sure? according to man page -g specifies group name |
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| 12:31.31 | pete_ | thrope: according to my experience with last 5 years im pretty fucking sure |
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| 12:31.59 | thrope | pete_: named: option requires an argument -- g |
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| 12:32.25 | pete_ | thrope: what version of BIND you have there? |
| 12:32.33 | deepfriedsquirre | For an Intel Q6600, should I get the AMD64 ISO? |
| 12:32.39 | ^shark_ | saimonn: ttysnoop seems to be what I am looking for |
| 12:32.47 | pete_ | thrope: man page of named says "-g Run the server in the foreground and force all logging to stderr." |
| 12:32.52 | thrope | pete_: ii bind 8.4.6-1 Internet Domain Name Server |
| 12:32.53 | ^shark_ | saimonn: thanks |
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| 12:32.54 | vaq | pete_: be nice |
| 12:32.55 | pete_ | deepfriedsquirre: nope id you dont have more then 4gb ram |
| 12:33.03 | knoxy | I cant log in my debian server.. I have a invalid ~/.bashrc and now I cant log in.. how can I do to fix it? |
| 12:33.07 | pete_ | thrope: afaik bind8 is not supported anymore |
| 12:33.15 | knoxy | (root account only) |
| 12:33.17 | thrope | ah ok |
| 12:33.20 | deepfriedsquirre | pete_: Why is this? |
| 12:33.25 | thrope | is there any way to turn on logging though? |
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| 12:33.36 | pete_ | deepfriedsquirre: you wont accomplish anything with 64bit. thats my opinion |
| 12:33.47 | deepfriedsquirre | Right, okay. Thanks |
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| 12:33.54 | pete_ | of course if you are running server with huge load then 64bit will give you some benefit |
| 12:34.26 | mespejel_ | for some reason i cant install the libdc package and im fallowing the instructions.. i unpack the tar files.. i type cd and my dictory.. i got in.. then ./configure did work as well |
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| 12:34.59 | [0x41[ | i booted up a fresh install of debian, and come across this error : (EE) no devices detected |
| 12:35.01 | mespejel_ | the their is to 'make' and when i type 'make' i get this error: make *** no targets specified and no makefile found. Stop. |
| 12:35.10 | [0x41[ | is there an auto configure for xserver |
| 12:35.22 | wols_ | [0x41[: what videocard? |
| 12:35.27 | [0x41[ | nvidia |
| 12:35.35 | wols_ | what nvidia card? |
| 12:35.40 | [0x41[ | 7200 |
| 12:35.42 | [0x41[ | i think |
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| 12:35.43 | [0x41[ | not sure |
| 12:35.50 | [0x41[ | i've had it working on here before |
| 12:35.55 | [0x41[ | np |
| 12:36.00 | gypsym | what means what a directory has this permissions? drwx--S--- |
| 12:36.04 | gypsym | what's that S? |
| 12:36.09 | wols_ | [0x41[: lspci -nn |
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| 12:36.23 | mespejel_ | in inside the package where is the source code.. how is that i type 'make' and i get this error.. No targets specified and no makefile found, stop |
| 12:36.30 | wols_ | gypsym: looks liek setgid |
| 12:36.34 | [0x41[ | wols_ GeForce FX 5200 |
| 12:37.21 | gnittor | [0x41[, dpkg-reconfigure -fnoninteractive xserver-xorg |
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| 12:37.50 | wols_ | nvidia and nv work both |
| 12:37.57 | wols_ | 3D only with nvidia |
| 12:38.43 | wols_ | mespejel_: which debian version? |
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| 12:39.22 | thrope | is there a reason why kill -SIGUSR1 doesn't make named write logs to /var/tmp in debian? |
| 12:39.27 | [0x41[ | gnittor , still get same error |
| 12:40.08 | wols_ | [0x41[: it's not the error. first error counts, not last |
| 12:40.24 | gypsym | wols_: do u know how to remove it? |
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| 12:41.02 | knoxy | hi all.. I use this bashrc in my root account http://pastebin.ca/1185253 and now, I cant login in my server. How can I do to fix it? I haven't SUDO.. |
| 12:41.08 | miksuh | hassua |
| 12:41.37 | miksuh | etchille on nyt backports.org:ssa 2.6.26 kerneli, mut lennylle sitä ei vielä oo :) |
| 12:41.54 | wols_ | gypsym: e.g. set it 700? |
| 12:41.55 | miksuh | etchille uudempi kerneli kun lnnylle tällähetkellä |
| 12:41.57 | justin | knoxy: can you login as a user? |
| 12:41.58 | wols_ | miksuh: english only |
| 12:42.03 | miksuh | oh sorry wrong channel |
| 12:42.11 | pete_ | hehe |
| 12:42.18 | wols_ | knoxy: root=/bin/sh |
| 12:42.31 | wols_ | knoxy: as a kernel parameter |
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| 12:42.43 | [0x41[ | wols_ , i get xserver-xorg posistant warning : overwriting possibily customised configuration |
| 12:42.56 | wols_ | warnings are no errors |
| 12:43.11 | [0x41[ | even s |
| 12:43.12 | [0x41[ | so |
| 12:43.21 | [0x41[ | it still doesnt start xserver |
| 12:43.29 | wols_ | your X spits an error out |
| 12:44.01 | [0x41[ | fatal IO error 104 |
| 12:45.56 | wols_ | look in your Xorg log |
| 12:45.56 | wols_ | pastebin it, the xorg.conf |
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| 12:51.22 | knoxy | justin as user I can log in... |
| 12:51.33 | knoxy | but when I try "su" the root not login |
| 12:51.44 | knoxy | wols_ how? |
| 12:51.52 | wols_ | knoxy: I just told you how |
| 12:52.00 | justin | knoxy: what about if you run su -c 'rm /root/.bashrc' ? |
| 12:52.10 | justin | wols_: try again |
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| 12:53.06 | knoxy | justin good... |
| 12:53.09 | knoxy | very good |
| 12:53.13 | knoxy | thanks justin |
| 12:54.18 | xingu | thrope: does "rndc trace" do the expected? |
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| 13:07.25 | jelly | !find bin/pkginfo$ |
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| 13:07.36 | Dream | hi |
| 13:08.18 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'bin/pkginfo' returned no results. |
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| 13:09.08 | jelly | dpkg: alien lies! |
| 13:09.09 | dpkg | jelly: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 13:09.26 | jelly | fakeroot alien -k packet.pkg |
| 13:09.26 | jelly | /usr/bin/pkginfo is needed to use Alien::Package::Pkg |
| 13:09.30 | jelly | :-( |
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| 13:10.06 | jelly | relearns how to deal with svr4 packages |
| 13:10.08 | ShredZ | Can midnight commander handle with UTF8 in lenny ? |
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| 13:10.58 | olspookishmagus | what happened to Gnome in testing? whenever I try to create a new window something crashes |
| 13:11.28 | Rusty1 | ot but if i have a gigabit boxen connected to a gigabit switch does the router have to be gigabit? |
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| 13:11.42 | olspookishmagus | any ideas anyone? :( |
| 13:12.03 | justin | Rusty1: are you paying $50,000/month for your internet connection? |
| 13:12.29 | Rusty1 | justin: i just need gigabit btween the boxen |
| 13:12.57 | justin | Rusty1: the switch is the only thing between them, yes? |
| 13:13.15 | Rusty1 | justin: yes |
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| 13:13.26 | justin | Rusty1: then you just need a gig switch |
| 13:13.41 | Rusty1 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:14.37 | eshat | Hi all,... is there a file where the output on tty1 is saved ? |
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| 13:15.16 | enneth | Hi, I've just installed vncserver and gnome, but when I connect via vnc I get a blank screen. There's nothing except for the crossed cursor. How do I make menus and windows appear? |
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| 13:16.49 | outlaw84 | I am having problems installing new kernels from debianpackages. I get an error like: 'grub-probe: error: Cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/cciss/c0d0p1. Check your device.map.' I checked device.map, its empty I added '(hd0) /dev/cciss/c0d0p1' to it as it show on other computers I got but it did not helt |
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| 13:18.05 | Botra | snowflake:/tmp# java |
| 13:18.05 | Botra | Killed |
| 13:18.07 | Botra | hm? :> |
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| 13:18.28 | olspookishmagus | agiofws_: go flood someone else |
| 13:18.41 | agiofws_ | flood! |
| 13:18.43 | agiofws_ | hi |
| 13:18.53 | agiofws_ | there can only be one |
| 13:18.56 | Botra | agiofws_ since when are 3 lines flood? |
| 13:18.58 | olspookishmagus | hi agiofws_ do you know what got broken is debian testing? |
| 13:18.59 | Botra | than you flooded 2 |
| 13:19.00 | Botra | ;) |
| 13:19.48 | olspookishmagus | whenever I try to create a new window it get closed before I manage to do anything... |
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| 13:20.12 | agiofws_ | olspookishmagus, ? |
| 13:20.33 | olspookishmagus | should be related to this -> http://www.nabble.com/Lenny-users:-attn-about-Gnome-libxml2-breakage-td19106278.html |
| 13:20.38 | agiofws_ | create a new window ? |
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| 13:20.50 | avlis | hi guys! somebody had work with BMC. A control software include in ibm server ???? |
| 13:22.29 | justin | avlis: ipmi |
| 13:22.49 | justin | avlis: BMC is the card, ipmi is the procotol you need to communicate with it |
| 13:23.09 | avlis | yes justin! |
| 13:23.26 | avlis | can you give me information about that?? |
| 13:23.39 | justin | avlis: install ipmitool |
| 13:23.40 | Agiofws | olspookishmagus, i don;t do dist upgrades often only when i really need it |
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| 13:24.37 | avlis | justin, my dugout is on the connection to server! |
| 13:25.24 | avlis | justin, a rj45 cable is the sufficient, or i have to buy a connector? |
| 13:26.03 | visik7 | is there a way to make an unattended debian installer ? |
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| 13:26.31 | justin | avlis: it uses IP, normal ethernet is just fine |
| 13:27.07 | pll | Hi all, does anyone know if debian uses an overrides file to create the main mirror? And if so, where I can find it? |
| 13:27.22 | avlis | justin, yes... a configure the setting's on bios, but now a can't connect! |
| 13:27.42 | justin | avlis: are you trying from the same machine, or from another machine? |
| 13:27.57 | avlis | justin, the access is web? ou command line? |
| 13:28.01 | justin | avlis: cause you can do both, local machine via some kind of HW interface, and remotely via ethernet |
| 13:28.06 | avlis | justin, from another! |
| 13:28.29 | justin | avlis: try ipmitool chassis power status -H ip.go.here -U user |
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| 13:30.32 | avlis | justin, the error in my console is "Error: Unable to establish LAN session" |
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| 13:30.47 | OpenTokix | avlis: did you set up on the ipmi-card? |
| 13:30.57 | MacGyverNL | I'm reading up on Debian runlevels, and it says here Debian does not distinguish between runlevel 2-5. |
| 13:31.08 | MacGyverNL | Is this correct? |
| 13:31.11 | OpenTokix | avlis: ie. did you set up |
| 13:31.11 | OpenTokix | ip |
| 13:31.15 | justin | MacGyverNL: yep |
| 13:31.18 | OpenTokix | avlis: and enabled it in the bios |
| 13:31.37 | MacGyverNL | justin: This behaviour can not be changed? |
| 13:31.44 | avlis | justin, yes, on BMC setup right? |
| 13:31.47 | justin | MacGyverNL: sure it can, change it |
| 13:31.55 | justin | avlis: yep |
| 13:31.59 | MacGyverNL | Oh, right, it's only the default? |
| 13:32.25 | avlis | justin, what is strange is that my switch don't show me any activity?! |
| 13:32.34 | avlis | justin, in that interface! |
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| 13:32.56 | justin | avlis: ipmi usually piggybacks on an existing interface |
| 13:33.46 | OpenTokix | justin: depends on the version of the card |
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| 13:34.13 | avlis | justin, i connect my rj45 cable on board management interface, not on ethernet interface, is right ? |
| 13:34.16 | justin | yeah, you should probably just see what your hardware documentation says |
| 13:34.38 | justin | avlis: ah, if you have a dedicated port for it, then yeah |
| 13:34.51 | avlis | justin, yes i have! |
| 13:35.06 | justin | avlis: i'd just read the hardware docs for it, maybe it doesn't do ipmi after all... see what the docs say |
| 13:35.13 | avlis | justin, but with no activity! |
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| 13:36.09 | avlis | justin, ok thanks anyway! |
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| 13:36.55 | avlis | justin, if you just remember anything... tell me! |
| 13:37.59 | saimonn | anyone knows an equivalent to teamviewer or logmein for debian (or linux in general) ? |
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| 13:38.59 | tview | Is anyone aware of anything which would have hosed (yet again) my printer setup (HP officejet) in Lenny? Printer is there in the printer admin interface. Just when I print ... nothing at all. |
| 13:38.59 | petemc | saimonn: i dont know of anything packaged up, but you can do the same kind of thing with vnc and ssh with an intermediary hosts |
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| 13:39.06 | petemc | s/hosts/host/ |
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| 13:39.27 | avlis | OpenTokix, i have enable it on bios, but a can't reatech the server! |
| 13:40.57 | OpenTokix | avlis: the server or the ipmi? |
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| 13:44.14 | rati | Hey I have update lenny from etch. but after update I cant see my desktop. I cant see my fonts and menus |
| 13:44.29 | rati | I have just done apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| 13:45.38 | Dream | does anyone know if is there any log where usb signals (usb key connected, ...) are logged pls ? |
| 13:45.51 | petemc | dmesg, messages |
| 13:46.27 | Dream | petemc: ok, is there anyway to have datetime in dmesg ? :p |
| 13:46.36 | petemc | im not aware of any |
| 13:46.42 | petemc | thats not to say there isnt... |
| 13:47.02 | Dream | petemc: ok, thanks for your help :) |
| 13:47.07 | petemc | np |
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| 13:47.32 | avlis | OpenTokix, to ipmi! |
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| 13:47.55 | rati | I cant have desktop working perfectly. while in login screen if I type username and password I cant see any character |
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| 13:48.31 | OpenTokix | avlis: ok, have you set an ip on the impi card? Default it will do nothing? |
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| 13:49.07 | curtmack | okay, I'm setting up a new hard drive using fdisk |
| 13:49.29 | curtmack | how do I make the swap partition like the Debian installer does? |
| 13:49.30 | avlis | OpenTokix, yes i setup an iP, in the bios! |
| 13:49.41 | curtmack | (i.e. like sda5) |
| 13:49.48 | petemc | mkswap |
| 13:49.50 | avlis | OpenTokix, and configured a VLAN on switch! |
| 13:49.52 | rati | curtmack: mkswap /dev/sda5 |
| 13:50.13 | OpenTokix | avlis: ok, did you try https://that-ip ? |
| 13:50.17 | curtmack | okay, so I write my current fdisk changes to the disk, exit, and then run mkswap? |
| 13:50.26 | rati | yes |
| 13:50.33 | curtmack | okay, thanks |
| 13:50.55 | avlis | OpenTokix, yes, with no success! |
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| 13:51.05 | curtmack | all right, writing, thanks for the help |
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| 13:51.09 | OpenTokix | avlis: hmm, ok |
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| 13:51.12 | curtmack | oooh crap |
| 13:51.24 | curtmack | what filesystem does fdisk default to? |
| 13:51.25 | OpenTokix | avlis: you set the ip ofr the ipmi-card in the bios. I can only enable or disable that card |
| 13:51.47 | OpenTokix | avlis: if you are on the host with the ipmicard - write ipmitool lan print 1 |
| 13:51.54 | OpenTokix | curtmack: none |
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| 13:52.06 | curtmack | oh, so now I format it |
| 13:52.08 | curtmack | how do I do that? |
| 13:52.26 | avlis | OpenTokix, ok give a second and a will show you the result! |
| 13:52.33 | rati | curtmack: you want to format filesystem with ext3? |
| 13:52.41 | curtmack | yeah |
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| 13:53.10 | rati | mkfs.ext3 |
| 13:53.19 | curtmack | thanks |
| 13:53.30 | rati | after that your partition (ex /dev/dha1) |
| 13:54.17 | KodeK_ | I'd like to know if anybody has a reccomendation concerning a domain registration company, which provides solid online dns management and provides me with dns service... i need no online space and no emails, just a proper dns zone admin interface and a domain migration |
| 13:54.19 | curtmack | well right now it's sda1... actually it would always be sda1 because it's SATA |
| 13:54.27 | saimonn | petemc: the aim of teamviewer or logmein is to be easy to use, I don't think I'll be able to explain to a novice how to setup VNC+ssh so I can help him |
| 13:54.45 | curtmack | but right now it's going through a USB converter because this stupid mobo won't boot from an IDE drive if you have a SATA drive plugged in |
| 13:55.00 | curtmack | I'm like "who the hell thought of that" |
| 13:55.13 | petemc | saimonn: another aim of theirs is to allow a user to establish a connection from behind a firewall - which was the angle i was coming from |
| 13:55.23 | webPragmatist | hey guys I'm trying to mount an NAS and getting this: |
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| 13:55.41 | webPragmatist | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //someaddr/SOMEDIR |
| 13:55.46 | petemc | saimonn: if all you require is remote desktop to a linux system, gnome and kde have them built in, or theres dozens of other options |
| 13:56.00 | webPragmatist | if I look at the syslog it also says: |
| 13:56.02 | webPragmatist | CIFS VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -22 |
| 13:56.02 | webPragmatist | iptables denied: IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=01:00:5e:00:00:01:00:13:f7:4f:85:c0:08:00 SRC=10.0.101.156 DST=224.0.0.1 LEN=28 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=1 ID=10204 PROTO=2 |
| 13:56.19 | saimonn | petemc: ok thanks, I'll lokk further into gnome/kde |
| 13:56.25 | saimonn | s/lokk/look/ |
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| 14:07.42 | avlis | OpenTokix, sorry but a had to do a thing for my boss! |
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| 14:12.32 | avlis | OpenTokix, i had done "ipmitool lan print 1" and the result was "Could not open device at /dev/ipmi0" |
| 14:12.52 | scintilla | bye |
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| 14:13.39 | OpenTokix | avlis: ok, you have to load the modules |
| 14:13.43 | ShredZ | Does the standard etch kernel support the nohz or divider= kernel options and if so to what does nohz set the ticker ? |
| 14:14.04 | OpenTokix | avlis: modprobe ipmi_si && modprobe ipmi_devintf |
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| 14:15.20 | rmrfchik | Is here any with asus p5k? I want to check /proc/asound/card0/codec#0 file |
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| 14:15.43 | avlis | OpenTokix, i have done it, and then "ipmitool lan print 1" , and appeared information! |
| 14:15.52 | OpenTokix | avlis: ok, great |
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| 14:15.59 | OpenTokix | was it the information you expected? |
| 14:16.18 | Flesje^^ | can i see temps of CPU in terminal? |
| 14:16.22 | OpenTokix | ipmitool lan print 1 | grep "IP Address" <-- is the most intresting |
| 14:16.52 | OpenTokix | Flesje^^: yes, lm-sensors - you have tyo google for a howto |
| 14:16.53 | avlis | OpenTokix, yes, and the IP is the right one! |
| 14:16.55 | OpenTokix | ok |
| 14:17.52 | OpenTokix | avlis: does you impi-card have it's own rj45? |
| 14:18.13 | Flesje^^ | ok thanks OpenTokix |
| 14:18.22 | avlis | OpenTokix, yes it was! |
| 14:18.43 | OpenTokix | avlis: ok, then https://ip-of-impi should work (if you are on the same network) |
| 14:20.54 | avlis | OpenTokix, i'am not in the same network! |
| 14:21.11 | OpenTokix | avlis: ok, do you have access to that machine on port 443? |
| 14:21.18 | avlis | OpenTokix, but "ipmitool chassis power status -H X.X.X.X -U USERID" |
| 14:21.18 | OpenTokix | avlis: is default gateway set on the ipmi? |
| 14:21.22 | avlis | OpenTokix, works fine! |
| 14:21.25 | OpenTokix | avlis: ok |
| 14:21.37 | OpenTokix | avlis: then we can assume there is something wrong with your path to the ipmi-card |
| 14:21.43 | OpenTokix | network-wise on port 443 |
| 14:22.36 | avlis | OpenTokix, i can't reach the port 443 from my machine! |
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| 14:24.20 | OpenTokix | avlis: ok, stop yelling |
| 14:24.30 | OpenTokix | avlis: I think we found the problem |
| 14:24.36 | OpenTokix | if you do on the machien hosting the ipmi-card |
| 14:24.41 | OpenTokix | telnet ip-of-ipmi 443 |
| 14:24.42 | elcuco | hi all, i am trying to install phpmyadmin on lenny (using lighttpd). currently i am getting 403 and no web page. can anyone help me? |
| 14:25.17 | justin | elcuco: does php work in general? |
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| 14:27.55 | elcuco | justin: hehe... not... lets figure out what's wrong |
| 14:28.23 | justin | elcuco: have you ever setup php using lighttpd before? it isn't the same as using apache |
| 14:28.30 | FiFouille | hi, is there anyone that could explain me a few things about BTS reports ? |
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| 14:28.37 | FiFouille | for example, this one : http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=356853 |
| 14:28.47 | elcuco | justin: several times, on etch. |
| 14:28.50 | FiFouille | what does the line Fixed in version 2007-14 mean ? |
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| 14:30.08 | justin | FiFouille: that is a kind of metapackage, and its version number is just the date |
| 14:30.19 | FiFouille | 14th month of the year ? |
| 14:30.25 | elcuco | that was wierd, the /etc/lighttpd/conf-enabled/10-cgi.conf configuration file had the php-cgi configuration commented. in etch it worked out of the box |
| 14:30.34 | justin | FiFouille: I think, 14th release in 2007 |
| 14:30.37 | elcuco | knows, since he posted the bug report about this issue |
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| 14:31.12 | gnat_x | hey folks, i'm running a mixed lenny/sid on an amd64 (thinkpad x61). I'm trying to use ies4linux, and somewhere within the wine / ies4linux matrix i get swapping which makes my machine unusable. actually i don't think its swapping cause its happened with swapoff, but it feels like it (hd light solidly on, machine becomes totally unresponsive etc). The machine is totally fine the rest of the time. |
| 14:31.25 | FiFouille | justin: it seems apt-listbugs receives this as YearMonth when fetching bug information from the SOAP interface provided by the Debian BTS |
| 14:31.31 | cast | what's the s in ies |
| 14:31.42 | hoxu | ucf should have merge :( |
| 14:31.54 | FiFouille | justin: same thing here http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=429716 , but no problem as this looks like a valid date |
| 14:31.59 | gnat_x | i should add that on a p4 etch system ies4linux and wine worked fine. |
| 14:32.46 | gnat_x | cast: the s is plural, you can install IE 5, 6, and a hack for 7. |
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| 14:33.03 | avlis | OpenTokix, i can't do telnet to that port, the machine is not responding in that port! |
| 14:33.09 | cast | ahh. |
| 14:33.13 | justin | avlis: ipmi uses udp |
| 14:33.17 | cast | that's 3x scarier than i was expecting |
| 14:33.24 | gnat_x | cast: hehe. |
| 14:34.31 | OpenTokix | avlis: from the host-machine to the ipmi |
| 14:34.59 | avlis | OpenTokix, yes in localhost! |
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| 14:35.31 | rati | Hey how can I re install my xserver. I have deleted /etc/X11 folder and I cant have any thing working |
| 14:36.42 | OpenTokix | avlis: ok, strange |
| 14:36.44 | gnat_x | rati: try "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" |
| 14:37.02 | elcuco | reads up http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=479276 |
| 14:37.13 | gnat_x | rati: failing that, you could always purge and reinstall the package itself. |
| 14:37.34 | elcuco | this is stupid. how am i supposed to setup lighttpd to pre-process php files then? whats the "secure way"? |
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| 14:37.53 | rati | gnat_x: I tried that but it doesnt help. |
| 14:38.23 | rati | Can I completely remove my xserver. If I want to make system only command line? |
| 14:38.45 | cast | sure. |
| 14:39.04 | gnat_x | rati: yes |
| 14:39.08 | rati | how can I do that? |
| 14:39.11 | cast | why don't you just leave it, though |
| 14:39.15 | gnat_x | rati: aptitude purge xorg |
| 14:39.25 | cast | stop xdm/gdm/kdm from starting at boot |
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| 14:40.01 | rati | gnat_x: nothing happens I tried that it hasent removed any thing |
| 14:40.30 | gnat_x | try xserver-xorg |
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| 14:43.59 | Flesje^^ | can i add a command like ./eggdrop bot.conf to the list that starts automatic when booting? |
| 14:44.33 | plundra | Flesje^^: Check out @reboot in a crontab. |
| 14:44.46 | plundra | It's probably best suited for what you want. |
| 14:45.03 | plundra | (I.e. don't run it as root etc.) |
| 14:45.04 | rati | sorry I am reinstalling it again. xserver. but when I start gdm it says that it want some Xwrapper.config. in which packet I find that? |
| 14:45.09 | HNSZ | If you have a debian with php5 and you want to install gd gd2 libraries one it, can you use apt? Isn't it a kernel module that need to be recompiled? |
| 14:45.32 | HNSZ | s/one/on |
| 14:45.35 | abrotman | apt-cache search php5 gd ? |
| 14:45.51 | Flesje^^ | no i want to run it as a user |
| 14:45.58 | HNSZ | yes I can do that but I'm wondering about performance |
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| 14:46.10 | Flesje^^ | plundra |
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| 14:46.33 | plundra | Flesje^^: Exactly, so what I said; @reboot in the users crontab. |
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| 14:46.35 | Flesje^^ | can i just do something like: @reboot cd /home/bramus/Bot ./eggdrop bot.conf |
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| 14:46.39 | tralala | Flesje^^, another option would be to write your own init script using the template in /etc/init.d/. There are ways to run init.d scripts with users priviledges. |
| 14:46.59 | plundra | Flesje^^: Not sure about the cd-part... Why not use absolut paths on everything? |
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| 14:47.24 | Flesje^^ | @reboot /home/bramus/Bot/eggdrop bot.conf |
| 14:47.25 | Flesje^^ | ? |
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| 14:47.27 | Flesje^^ | like that? |
| 14:47.41 | plundra | Flesje^^: Absolut path tot he bot.conf aswell probably :-] |
| 14:47.50 | Flesje^^ | ah ok |
| 14:48.06 | Flesje^^ | how can i get the user crontab? |
| 14:48.21 | plundra | crontab -e as the user in question. |
| 14:48.26 | plundra | Read the man-page. |
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| 14:49.10 | plundra | Remember that all output will get mailed to you, so redirect it you don't want it. (If eggdrop just forks off and informs about this, you'll be fine probably, just get one each reboot :-)) |
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| 14:49.31 | Flesje^^ | dont have mail setup or anything |
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| 14:49.47 | plundra | Yeah you do, locally :-) |
| 14:49.54 | Flesje^^ | hmm lol |
| 14:50.06 | Flesje^^ | was that something like >> /dev/null |
| 14:50.19 | HNSZ | append it? |
| 14:50.27 | plundra | No need to append it, just redirect. |
| 14:51.01 | plundra | Also, check first if it writes to stderr. Preferably it'll only write _errors_ to stderr :) |
| 14:51.05 | HNSZ | two just looks cooler |
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| 14:51.27 | biopyte | folks, i'd like to download all my emails at once and save them in a local folder (backup). how can i do that with evolution? |
| 14:51.57 | plundra | HNSZ: I bet you keep /dev/null as a regular file, just to be sure you don't accidentally loose something :-P |
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| 14:52.29 | petemc | biopyte: configure evolution as normal then export your mailbox |
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| 14:54.15 | mbroeker | Flesje^^, do you need a bot script? http://rafb.net/p/Y6r3wy55.html |
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| 14:54.53 | Flesje^^ | mbroeker |
| 14:55.01 | Flesje^^ | what is that exaclty? |
| 14:55.13 | biopyte | petemc: thanks, but how do i 'export' my mailbox. i usually dont use evolution but read emails via webinterface. |
| 14:55.14 | Flesje^^ | kinda new to debian / linux as you notice :P |
| 14:55.41 | mbroeker | Flesje^^, a startscript for your bot |
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| 14:56.09 | Flesje^^ | should i place that in the /etc/init.d/ ? |
| 14:56.09 | mbroeker | place it in /etc/init.d/ and try as root: /etc/init.d/botstart start |
| 14:56.10 | petemc | biopyte: look for an export option, i dont use evolution myself |
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| 14:56.54 | Flesje^^ | can i change botstart to like bot1 |
| 14:57.02 | Flesje^^ | so i can use it for like 2/3 bots |
| 14:57.04 | mbroeker | yes |
| 14:57.12 | Flesje^^ | so just save under other name then |
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| 14:57.16 | mbroeker | the name doesn't matter except the name exists already |
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| 14:58.58 | Flesje^^ | i get a permission denied |
| 14:59.00 | avlis | OpenTokix, tell me one thing, the server is a x346 IBM, perhaps that model don's have https protocol connection, only command line! |
| 14:59.01 | Flesje^^ | when i try to start |
| 14:59.46 | mbroeker | Flesje^^, chmod 755 bot1 :) |
| 14:59.50 | Flesje^^ | ok |
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| 15:00.24 | Flesje^^ | Starting eggdrop [started] |
| 15:00.36 | Flesje^^ | but nothing happens in the channel i'm in where the bot should show up |
| 15:00.55 | EmleyMoor | I have a partially broken horde setup that has come through an etch to lenny upgrade. It is proving difficult to get horde working properly again in lenny and I was wondering if there was an easy way to keep all data in the existing tables safe - such as by renaming the mysql database - so that I may try starting again from scratch |
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| 15:01.23 | EmleyMoor | Is there an easy way to change the name of a mysql database so that I can accomplish that? |
| 15:02.03 | mbroeker | Flesje^^, where is your bot.conf file located? |
| 15:02.21 | Flesje^^ | . /home/bramus/Bot/bot.conf |
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| 15:04.25 | mbroeker | Flesje^^, what produces /etc/init.d/bot1 status ? |
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| 15:04.54 | Flesje^^ | eggdrop is not running |
| 15:05.31 | mbroeker | Flesje^^, try /etc/init.d/bot1 restart :) |
| 15:05.58 | Flesje^^ | still the same |
| 15:05.59 | mbroeker | the script itself works |
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| 15:06.47 | SolarWar | anyway to retrieve the init log? |
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| 15:09.41 | petemc | SolarWar: bootlog isnt enabled by default |
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| 15:11.46 | gentlyninja | i wanna use mencoder with xvid support, but it says it only has avi mpeg, lavf and raw formats. can i additionally add support for xvid? or do i need to compile my own mencoder? |
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| 15:13.08 | SolarWar | petemc: thanks |
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| 15:18.55 | dto | hi all. i am on lenny, having trouble with USB HDD's not showing up in HAL or the file manager when plugged in. SD cards and other storage devices work, but none of my 4 external hdd's will automatically mount. i have to mount them from the command line instead. |
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| 15:22.17 | Jankosevic | hi! |
| 15:22.17 | Jankosevic | how can I install the nvidia driver under debian testing? (xen-problem) |
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| 15:22.48 | tralala | dto, what filesystem? |
| 15:23.52 | tralala | dto, or do you mean that HAL doesn't see it at all? Nothing in dmesg? |
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| 15:28.05 | SolarWar | as soon as the system boots, debian wants to run fsck on a harddisk that does not exist, I'm not sure where to begin to track this issue down |
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| 15:28.17 | SolarWar | to clarify, as soon as the kernel boots |
| 15:29.03 | jelly | SolarWar: /etc/fstab would be a good place to start |
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| 15:31.42 | biopyte | petemc: ok found it. thx. |
| 15:32.00 | SolarWar | jelly: thanks, I thought itd warn me if it were doing a routine check |
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| 15:45.00 | opensrcguru | whats the url for etch bugzilla? |
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| 15:46.08 | opensrcguru | or better yet, where does one look at the current debian bugs? |
| 15:46.16 | avu | bugs.debian.org |
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| 15:46.27 | avu | I *bet* it's the first hit when googling for 'debian bugs', too |
| 15:46.36 | avu | of course it is. |
| 15:46.56 | opensrcguru | sorry, i dont have a gui browser |
| 15:47.14 | avu | don't need that to use google. |
| 15:47.29 | opensrcguru | touche' |
| 15:47.55 | RageOfThou | Nitro sama |
| 15:48.01 | EmleyMoor | I've just tried reinstalling the horde applications and they still fail - been into this at length so now wondering what my next step should be |
| 15:48.43 | utb_diablo | opensrcguru, lynx still exists :) |
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| 15:51.49 | ehtom | whats the relationship between ubuntu and debian? |
| 15:52.07 | ktwilight_ | ubuntu is the child, debian is the father |
| 15:52.15 | ktwilight_ | we don't know who the mother is, unfortunately. |
| 15:52.19 | dto | tralala: it's in dmesg and the drive mounts just fine from the command line. but lshal does not show it and it does not automount. there was some kind of hal purge or trigger command that did help... |
| 15:52.24 | ktwilight_ | maybe she was windows. ;) |
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| 15:53.11 | dto | tralala: xfs and ext3, depending on drive |
| 15:53.22 | dto | tralala: maybe it's set to only mount VFAT |
| 15:53.27 | dto | tralala: but i don't know how to configure that |
| 15:53.34 | dto | i tried #hal but it's pretty dead |
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| 15:53.54 | hoxu | !tell ehtom about distro timeline |
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| 15:55.02 | dto | tralala: hmm, no, it seems to have automounted (via usbmount) one of my EXT3 HDDs as /media/usb0 |
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| 15:55.22 | dto | tralala: but the xfce file manager did not pop up the way it does for SD cards. |
| 15:56.00 | ehtom | slackware still exists?!? |
| 15:56.02 | ehtom | whoa |
| 15:56.16 | dto | tralala: the disks work fine, i'm guessing HAL is set up wrong... |
| 15:56.54 | ehtom | cool graph though |
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| 15:57.36 | dto | tralala: i will read the system's hal docs and see what i can do |
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| 15:58.28 | tralala | dto, I suggest you read the bts and see if there are known issues |
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| 16:03.14 | Paul_UK | hey all, im trying to build a perl lib. Here is the output: http://pastebin.com/m7fb8934e The difficulty is that dh-make-perl dh-make-perl seems to fail to find proper dependencies. How can I best resolve this? |
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| 16:03.39 | dto | tralala: what is bts? |
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| 16:04.12 | tralala | dto, /msg dpkg bts |
| 16:04.35 | webPragmatist | how do I delete a group using groupdel if it's a "primary group" and ive already deleted the user |
| 16:05.29 | tralala | webPragmatist, just edit /etc/group |
| 16:05.38 | webPragmatist | just kill the line? |
| 16:05.45 | tralala | yes |
| 16:05.51 | webPragmatist | ok cool |
| 16:05.55 | abrotman | vigroup ? |
| 16:06.06 | abrotman | erm .. vigr |
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| 16:07.00 | dto | tralala: wow, thanks! |
| 16:07.06 | dto | tralala: i didn't realize thias |
| 16:07.07 | dto | this |
| 16:07.17 | curtmack | oh, so before I can use mkswap i need to make sda5 partition |
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| 16:08.05 | ed___ | Hello |
| 16:08.30 | curtmack | how do I do that? fdisk doesn't seem to be capable of making a partition #5 |
| 16:09.15 | tralala | curtmack, make an extended and then a logical volume |
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| 16:09.38 | Gatonegro | Hello all. I'm looking for an easy way to keep my laptop and desktop files synched in Debian GNU/Linux. Any ideas? |
| 16:09.57 | ed___ | I just installed Debian - Base System and Standard System with no DE because my Internet connection was originally playing up and I co0uldn't be bothered with waiting five years for a few megabytes to download. Now that my Internet connection is working properly, I'd like to install the DE but I don't know what packages to grab. As a quick solution, I tried to just grab fluxbox with aptitude, assuming all the X stuff I needed would be pulled in with it, but startx |
| 16:10.09 | curtmack | tralala: how do I do that? |
| 16:10.17 | hoxu | Gatonegro, depends on your needs, you might want to look at rsync, unison, distributed version control systems, etc |
| 16:10.28 | curtmack | when I try to make an extended partition it prompts for a number 1-4 |
| 16:10.42 | EmleyMoor | ed___: Try tasksel, or look under tasks in aptitude |
| 16:10.59 | tralala | curtmack, if you have to ask this there is a high risk that you will mess up your partition table. I suggest you backup valuable data first. |
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| 16:11.06 | curtmack | but when I delete a partition it asks for a number from 1-5 first |
| 16:11.13 | curtmack | tralala: It's a blank drive, no risk :) |
| 16:11.43 | Gatonegro | hoxu, I really just need to have the new files of the desktop overwrite the old versions on the laptop (and vice-versa) whenever I switch from one to another. |
| 16:11.52 | ed___ | EmleyMoor: Thanks, that's just what I'm after. |
| 16:12.05 | curtmack | theoretically, would I have to have sda5 as my swap partition? I could use any number, right? |
| 16:12.23 | tralala | curtmack, the extended partition will take a number from 1-4. The logical partition you will create _after_ this will take a number >4 |
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| 16:12.47 | hoxu | Gatonegro, look at rsync --update |
| 16:13.07 | Gatonegro | hoxu, I will. |
| 16:13.10 | tralala | curtmack, yes, you can use any partition for swapping. |
| 16:13.34 | ed___ | EmleyMoor: The UI loks really messed up though. There are weird characters al over the place and when I press space next to an item, the star appears in the wrong place and it doesn't get rid of the star there in the mailserver item. Weird, huh? It doesn't really matter, but I just thought I'd say in case that could be useful. Should I file a bugreport? |
| 16:13.40 | Gatonegro | hoxu, Is there any frontend for it, though? Something that will make it more appealing for non-techies? |
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| 16:14.08 | hoxu | Gatonegro, I'd really recommend going for distributed version control like git though, it'll make sure you won't lose data, which is kind of... nice - on the downside, it's a lot more learning but you gain a new powerful tool |
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| 16:14.27 | hoxu | !tell Gatonegro about search |
| 16:14.38 | hoxu | Gatonegro, apt-cache search rsync frontend |
| 16:14.55 | LemensTS | I need some microsoft exchange help live, does anyone know of an IRC channel or something like this? |
| 16:15.15 | hoxu | LemensTS, ##windows |
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| 16:15.31 | curtmack | in that case, I should just use sda2 as my swap partition, since I only need/want one main partition, and for some reason the logical partition can't be more than one cylinder... |
| 16:16.10 | tralala | curtmack, possibly because you've used up all the space, or your extended partition is only 1 cylinder |
| 16:16.24 | curtmack | the latter |
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| 16:16.32 | curtmack | oh well |
| 16:16.54 | jelly | ed___: weird characters sound like a terminal/UTF-8 issue |
| 16:18.16 | tralala | Gatonegro, I second hoxu's opinion. VCSs are not really appealing to non-techies but the task you have at hand is much more difficult than it sounds. |
| 16:18.32 | Gatonegro | Thanks again, hoxu and tralala. I'll check those. |
| 16:18.32 | curtmack | Sometimes that happens. Try using a system terminal instead of an X terminal |
| 16:18.38 | curtmack | (to ed___) |
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| 16:18.51 | curtmack | I've had similar problems that were fixed when I switched to a system terminal. |
| 16:18.56 | tralala | Gatonegro, I'd only recommend mercurial over git |
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| 16:19.34 | edwin_quijada | I am using etch and I want to move to Lenny how can I di it? |
| 16:19.49 | hoxu | !tell edwin_quijada about etch->lenny |
| 16:20.00 | efaistos | does the ssh version in Debian accept from="ip" in authorized_keys ? |
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| 16:20.55 | efaistos | any idea ? |
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| 16:21.13 | dto | this reportbug app is nice. |
| 16:21.23 | edwin_quijada | lenny is stable ? |
| 16:21.24 | hoxu | efaistos, yes |
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| 16:21.36 | hoxu | efaistos, debian uses openssh |
| 16:21.40 | Fahrenheit | Hi! |
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| 16:22.15 | Fahrenheit | im a beginner user |
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| 16:22.26 | Fahrenheit | i have some questions |
| 16:22.28 | Fahrenheit | :) |
| 16:22.31 | efaistos | hoxu: yeah but RHEL version by example doesnt support that option by default i think |
| 16:22.47 | EmleyMoor | !tell Fahrenheit about ask |
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| 16:24.19 | Fahrenheit | Which Book is good for starting Debian? |
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| 16:25.30 | Fahrenheit | Hi All! |
| 16:25.38 | tralala | Fahrenheit, you'll find plenty of information on debian.org |
| 16:26.09 | Fahrenheit | ahan! tanX! |
| 16:26.25 | RageOfThou | Nitro sama |
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| 16:27.22 | hoxu | efaistos, I suggest you try it out then - I think it worked for me and I don't remember twiddling with options |
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| 16:36.21 | efaistos | hoxu: thanks ... |
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| 16:43.16 | ribasushi | ok |
| 16:43.23 | ribasushi | I am in a bind please help |
| 16:43.27 | ribasushi | have a remote server |
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| 16:43.40 | ribasushi | with people on site who don't know jack shit about linux in general |
| 16:43.43 | ribasushi | I need to start a debian install |
| 16:43.51 | ribasushi | is there something that can give me ssh as soon as possible |
| 16:43.56 | ribasushi | and me setting it up this way? |
| 16:44.21 | ribasushi | or any other alternative goes too |
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| 16:46.02 | edwin_quijada | how much lenny stable is? |
| 16:46.02 | logione | stable |
| 16:46.02 | Nazz | very much |
| 16:46.13 | ribasushi | debian remote install anyone? |
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| 16:49.35 | ehtom | is lenny the new debian stable? |
| 16:50.17 | jelly | ehtom: it will be, but isn't yet |
| 16:50.40 | ehtom | i see |
| 16:50.46 | cahoot | in the making |
| 16:50.55 | simonrvn | ...said the blind man to his deaf son |
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| 16:53.23 | Xodiac13893 | i have just installed debian and i need some help on getting a low resource gui i just installed the command line |
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| 16:53.39 | mmlj4 | define low-resource |
| 16:53.42 | Xodiac13893 | how am i able to start up the package selection group |
| 16:53.49 | mmlj4 | twm is about as low as you can get |
| 16:53.52 | Xodiac13893 | well lets just say i only have 64 megs of ram |
| 16:53.59 | Xodiac13893 | and 500 mhz processor |
| 16:54.24 | Xodiac13893 | what is the command to install it |
| 16:54.25 | Xodiac13893 | is it |
| 16:54.29 | Xodiac13893 | apt-get install twm |
| 16:54.34 | Xodiac13893 | ? |
| 16:54.34 | mmlj4 | if you don't mind starting all your apps via the cli, twm is adequate |
| 16:54.39 | SpeedyG | Hi, is there any known reason why kde might crash on lenny (frozen windows, nothing responds, only reboot solves it) |
| 16:54.40 | Xodiac13893 | what is cli |
| 16:54.47 | mmlj4 | command-line interface |
| 16:54.52 | Xodiac13893 | o ok i dont mind |
| 16:55.00 | Xodiac13893 | so i just have to install it and type startx |
| 16:55.01 | Xodiac13893 | right? |
| 16:55.02 | mmlj4 | we have a winnar! |
| 16:55.06 | Xodiac13893 | lol |
| 16:55.08 | Xodiac13893 | nice |
| 16:55.16 | Xodiac13893 | can i use xfce |
| 16:55.18 | mmlj4 | well, X has to be configured before it can be run |
| 16:55.24 | mmlj4 | yeah, that would work |
| 16:55.35 | Xodiac13893 | what is the command to get it because i typed |
| 16:55.44 | Xodiac13893 | apt-get install xfce |
| 16:55.54 | grendal_prime | i got a situation where i have several machines checking into an openvpn server. sometimes we need to ssh into these boxes, and since they are assigend ipaddreses by dhcp, we run into ssh fingerprint conflicts. I have tried disabling strict host checking in the /etc/ssh/ssh_config. but we still get the errors. |
| 16:55.54 | jelly | SpeedyG: "nothing responds"? Does the machine answer to ping? Can you log in remotely, or does an active remote session stay alive? |
| 16:55.56 | mmlj4 | probably |
| 16:56.16 | jelly | Xodiac13893: you can't use xfce with 64MB RAM. |
| 16:56.20 | SpeedyG | jelly: nothing as in, nothing on the display responds |
| 16:56.41 | Xodiac13893 | jelly: what can i use |
| 16:56.42 | SpeedyG | and when I try to restart X the hard way (ctrl-alt-backspace) it just freezes, and becomes unusable |
| 16:56.42 | jelly | SpeedyG: that isn't saying much; can you ssh into the machine at that oint? |
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| 16:57.10 | SpeedyG | jelly: no idea, I just rebooted it again to get control over it, since its the only machine I have here right now thats kinda working |
| 16:57.11 | jelly | Xodiac13893: something like fluxbox, if you absolutely must run X |
| 16:57.12 | Xodiac13893 | jelly: will it startx by itself and start up programs at the begginign |
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| 16:57.35 | Xodiac13893 | well i really dont know much about the command line just a little and i gui would be nice |
| 16:57.44 | x03 | when lenny freeze? |
| 16:57.46 | SpeedyG | jelly: and anoying thing is, theres nothing in the logs about it |
| 16:57.51 | simonrvn | !wir |
| 16:57.51 | dpkg | i guess wir is When It's Ready. See also RSN and SIYH |
| 16:57.53 | Xodiac13893 | jelly: what is the command to get fluxbox is it apt-get install fluxbox |
| 16:57.58 | simonrvn | x03: ^^^ |
| 16:58.03 | x03 | !wir |
| 16:58.03 | dpkg | [wir] When It's Ready. See also RSN and SIYH |
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| 16:58.09 | x03 | lol |
| 16:58.12 | Xodiac13893 | jelly: is there a way to get the package selection group to run again |
| 16:58.16 | x03 | !rsn |
| 16:58.16 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, rsn is Real Soon Now (or never) or see "wir" and "siyh" |
| 16:58.29 | x03 | !siyh |
| 16:58.29 | dpkg | it has been said that siyh is Sooner If You Help. How? http://qa.debian.org http://wiki.debian.org/BSP |
| 16:58.46 | jelly | Xodiac13893: you can run "tasksel" as root |
| 16:58.52 | Xodiac13893 | so just run that |
| 16:59.00 | Xodiac13893 | just tasksel |
| 16:59.12 | jelly | I've just told that. |
| 16:59.21 | Xodiac13893 | jelly: and to install fluxbox in the command line its apt-get install fluxbox right? |
| 16:59.42 | jelly | Xodiac13893: yes, or "aptitude install fluxbox" |
| 16:59.50 | Xodiac13893 | ok thank you |
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| 17:00.33 | radius | has anyone cleared and resolved this error yet? invoke-rc.d: initscript openhpid, action "stop" failed. |
| 17:00.38 | jelly | Xodiac13893: I wouldn't do anything over tasksel at this point, however. You can use "aptitude" to search for, and install single packages |
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| 17:01.05 | jelly | Xodiac13893: and you can use wha tthe bot says in "/msg dpkg install x" to ... install X |
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| 17:01.30 | jelly | Xodiac13893: I'd advise against running X without at least double the RAM. |
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| 17:02.42 | dto | hmm, reportbug seems not to be able to handle gmail smtp. |
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| 17:02.54 | dto | can i send the report it made manually? |
| 17:03.08 | SpeedyG | jelly: oh, there is one thing I know for sure, the xorg process is running at something between 70 and 100% cpu when it hangs, so it probably is some issue in xorg |
| 17:03.16 | grendal_prime | jelly are you tring to run the entire desktop on another xdisplay on your like laptop or something? |
| 17:03.23 | loran42o | hello |
| 17:03.32 | jelly | grendal_prime: I'm not trying to do anything. |
| 17:03.53 | jelly | ... not anything I'd like this channel to know about, in any case |
| 17:03.58 | Xodiac13893 | i tried installing fluxbox but it said it cant find the file |
| 17:04.01 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 17:04.02 | grendal_prime | oh ok...was someone else trying to do that. |
| 17:04.10 | bolt | When copying something from windows to my samba server, if I cancel the operation, I end up with a file called "cifs????", the question marks being seemingly random characters. Is there a way to avoid this? |
| 17:04.13 | simonrvn | jelly++ |
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| 17:04.39 | simonrvn | bolt: use a proper charset |
| 17:04.42 | grendal_prime | bolt: i believe that is the temp file |
| 17:05.16 | Xodiac13 | i have tried to install fluxbox from the command line i tried apt-get install fluxbox and aptitude install fluxbox and ehter of them are working |
| 17:05.26 | jelly | !errors |
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| 17:05.27 | dpkg | if you don't tell us the exact error messages you get, we can't tell you what's wrong, and it's also useful to know exactly what command you're typing. Please look for the *first* error that occurs, as this is often the cause of later errors, or - ask me about <localized errors> too |
| 17:05.29 | Xodiac13 | am i putting the command in wrong |
| 17:05.53 | jelly | Xodiac13: read what dpkg just said |
| 17:05.58 | bolt | simonrvn: why would the charset cause cifs to not delete its temp file? |
| 17:06.16 | bolt | simonrvn: there are no weird characters in the name, just numbers and letters |
| 17:06.17 | Xodiac13 | jelly: uhm okay well uh it says that the file cant be found |
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| 17:06.33 | simonrvn | bolt: dunno. didn't know it was a temp file, i've only seen that sort of thing with charset issues. |
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| 17:06.38 | Xodiac13 | jelly: do i type fluxbox a different way |
| 17:06.41 | jelly | Xodiac13: _exact error messages_ |
| 17:06.43 | simonrvn | bolt: nods |
| 17:06.48 | kef_trampos | hi |
| 17:06.53 | jelly | Xodiac13: use a pastebin if it's too long |
| 17:07.02 | bolt | simonrvn: it never happens if the transfer is completed, though. that's why i think it's a temp file |
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| 17:07.12 | jelly | !paster |
| 17:07.12 | kef_trampos | how make install debian in raid10 (softraid) ?? |
| 17:07.13 | dpkg | paster is your friendly Debian pastebot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste to have paster paste your results. Ask me about <pastebin> if you want to use another site. |
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| 17:07.57 | simonrvn | kef_trampos: the installer can handle it. |
| 17:08.36 | kef_trampos | simonrvn, nopz ... lenny daily not working |
| 17:08.38 | kef_trampos | :/ |
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| 17:08.49 | kef_trampos | not detect my arrays |
| 17:09.10 | kef_trampos | ubuntu 8.04 detect same array |
| 17:10.07 | kef_trampos | lenny daily(25/08) freeze on partman |
| 17:10.10 | Lagbolt | kef_trampos, you want it to recognise existing arrays? |
| 17:10.19 | simonrvn | the testing installer is to *test* it |
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| 17:10.52 | Lagbolt | kef_trampos, or are you installing a new system? |
| 17:10.53 | Ben_Cs | hello |
| 17:10.55 | kef_trampos | Lagbolt, i want install system on arrays, but not working ... partman freeze on detection arrays |
| 17:10.57 | Lagbolt | hi Ben_Cs |
| 17:11.01 | kef_trampos | Laeborg, yeah |
| 17:11.03 | kef_trampos | new system |
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| 17:11.05 | Ben_Cs | how do i install Etch with GUI interface? |
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| 17:11.26 | Lagbolt | kef_trampos, using lenny eh, have you tried with etch installer? |
| 17:11.53 | kef_trampos | etch not support raid10 in new installs |
| 17:12.12 | Lagbolt | Ben_Cs, when you boot installer type "installgui" then hit enter |
| 17:12.22 | Ben_Cs | Lagbolt: thanks! |
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| 17:12.38 | Lagbolt | kef_trampos, hmm really? thats striped mirror right? |
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| 17:13.39 | kef_trampos | Lagbolt, lenny detect my array, im looking in cat /proc/mdstats |
| 17:13.49 | kef_trampos | but in partman, freeze |
| 17:13.49 | kef_trampos | =/ |
| 17:14.14 | Lagbolt | kef_trampos, detects? so you have the array before running the installer? |
| 17:14.34 | Lagbolt | or is there a step before that in lenny installer. i recall it being part of the partitioner |
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| 17:15.31 | kef_trampos | freeze occurs in mannualy partitions |
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| 17:16.55 | Lagbolt | are you using lenny beta 2 installer? |
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| 17:17.48 | kef_trampos | yeah |
| 17:18.07 | kef_trampos | im using lenny daily (25/08) too |
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| 17:18.50 | Lagbolt | kef_trampos, did the installer create the array you are seeing in /proc or are you trying to use an array that was made by M/B? |
| 17:19.53 | Lagbolt | and it is possible that there is a bug in the daily lenny. might try an older one that people have not had trouble with |
| 17:20.02 | kef_trampos | Lagbolt, mdadm |
| 17:20.28 | kef_trampos | i create array in mdadm |
| 17:20.52 | kef_trampos | raid10 / 4 discs identicals |
| 17:20.54 | Lagbolt | using the installer? |
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| 17:21.03 | Lagbolt | i understand raid10 dude. |
| 17:21.04 | kef_trampos | Lagbolt, mannualy |
| 17:21.21 | Lagbolt | so maybe the installer isnt happy with that |
| 17:21.42 | kef_trampos | hmm |
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| 17:22.32 | kef_trampos | how install debian now ? debootstrap ?? |
| 17:23.35 | Lagbolt | kef_trampos, you could do that. |
| 17:23.47 | grendal_prime | i got a situation where i have several machines checking into an openvpn server. sometimes we need to ssh into these boxes, and since they are assigend ipaddreses by dhcp, we run into ssh fingerprint conflicts. I have tried disabling strict host checking in the /etc/ssh/ssh_config. but we still get the errors. |
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| 17:24.15 | Lagbolt | from what i understand grub doesnt work with raid so you have to have a "boot" partition not part of the raid and to do raid10 you have to raid0 two raid1 arrays. |
| 17:24.18 | Lagbolt | dont quote me on that |
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| 17:25.58 | cahoot | it's already on bash.org |
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| 17:26.21 | Trazi | Hi all |
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| 17:27.46 | Ben_Cs | where can i find Lenny dates timetable? |
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| 17:29.26 | jelly | Ben_Cs: um, what dates would that timetable contain? |
| 17:29.44 | ShishKabab | Hello. Is it possible for NFS and Samba to share a directory? |
| 17:30.13 | jelly | ShishKabab: "is it possible to share the same directory over both samba and nfs at the same time?" -- yes |
| 17:30.15 | Ben_Cs | jelly: date of freeze, date of betas, date of release etc. (ubuntu has one so i thought debian has one too) |
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| 17:30.28 | jelly | Ben_Cs: it doesn't. /msg dpkg wwlr |
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| 17:31.30 | ShishKabab | jelly-home: Do I need to do something special? I heard there are some problems regarding locks. |
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| 17:33.18 | curtmack | okay, I'm in the middle of copying files |
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| 17:33.26 | curtmack | how do I install grub once that's done? |
| 17:33.46 | jelly | ShishKabab: I haven't had to do anything special on a simple setup. |
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| 17:33.58 | Lagbolt | curtmack, what? lol |
| 17:33.59 | deus___ | >< |
| 17:34.06 | Lagbolt | you copy debian to another drive? |
| 17:34.12 | curtmack | lagbolt: yes, more or less |
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| 17:34.36 | curtmack | how do I install grub on the new drive? (it's /dev/sda) |
| 17:34.42 | ShishKabab | jelly-home: Ok. Thnx! |
| 17:35.04 | Lagbolt | curtmack, something like this grub-install --recheck --root-directory=/mnt/newdebian /dev/foo |
| 17:35.44 | Lagbolt | foo being the device name of the drive installing to, and /mnt/newdebian is the new drive mounted where the /boot dir is |
| 17:35.52 | curtmack | okay |
| 17:35.53 | curtmack | thanks |
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| 17:40.58 | screamingbytes | afternoon all. Im having an issue i can't seem to clear up with my .bash_profile, No matter how i mess with the $PATH var it won't add ~/bin |
| 17:41.14 | hoxu | screamingbytes, do you export it? |
| 17:41.19 | screamingbytes | its almost like its not even running, and im only running .bashrc |
| 17:41.25 | screamingbytes | hoxu: yessir |
| 17:41.38 | screamingbytes | export and no export, using PATH and $PATH |
| 17:41.40 | hoxu | screamingbytes, man bash, FILES section - profile is for login shells |
| 17:41.44 | simonrvn | .bash_profile is run on login shells... |
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| 17:41.55 | hoxu | screamingbytes, try bash -l and see if it works |
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| 17:42.13 | hoxu | screamingbytes, then either make your shell login or move it into ~/.bashrc :) |
| 17:42.15 | Kalidarn | does the debian boot floppy have enough to let me see the disk space on a old system? |
| 17:42.35 | Kalidarn | (this old system has nothing but a floppy drive, its going to the recycler :P i was just intrigued to how much disk space it had |
| 17:42.48 | screamingbytes | hoxu: says bash: export: ` ... ': not a valid identifier |
| 17:42.51 | curtmack | Kalidarn: try df /dev/hda1 |
| 17:43.03 | Kalidarn | yeah does the debian boot floppy image have df on it |
| 17:43.07 | curtmack | er, wait, does that work anymore? |
| 17:43.09 | screamingbytes | which i have googled and more, and done all recommended items i could find that made any sense |
| 17:43.21 | curtmack | I think you may have to mount /dev/hda1 and then df the mount directory |
| 17:43.29 | curtmack | so something like df -h /mnt/hda1 |
| 17:43.32 | screamingbytes | I get the same if i modify the PATH on the commandline and exporting it |
| 17:43.32 | Kalidarn | yeah well that could work |
| 17:43.39 | Kalidarn | but i was just wondering it it had those tools |
| 17:43.43 | curtmack | (-h makes it human-readable, using kilobytes, megabytes, etc.) |
| 17:43.45 | Kalidarn | i can use linux console fine ;P |
| 17:43.47 | curtmack | oh, okay |
| 17:43.58 | hoxu | screamingbytes, hold on, we don't have anyone on right now who can read your ~/.bash_profile without you showing it |
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| 17:44.23 | Kalidarn | curtmack, |
| 17:44.23 | Kalidarn | http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/main/installer-i386/current/images/floppy/ |
| 17:44.29 | Kalidarn | which image would i be looking for |
| 17:44.33 | Kalidarn | boot.img or root.img |
| 17:44.48 | Kalidarn | i dont care about drivers obviously its only to solve 5 seconds worth of curiosity |
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| 17:45.55 | screamingbytes | hoxu: pastebin? |
| 17:46.20 | hoxu | !tell screamingbytes about paste |
| 17:46.50 | screamingbytes | hoxu: ae |
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| 17:48.21 | Kalidarn | curtmack, yeah i know im not a unix newb :) ive just never used debian :P |
| 17:48.34 | Kalidarn | just asked cos i knew they still made boot floppies |
| 17:48.58 | Kalidarn | and that hal91 boot distro i tried failedzor :P i use archlinux they dont offer floppy installs ;) |
| 17:49.00 | Ben_Cs | hello. is there an advantage of using sarge over lenny or over ubuntu? i'll be glad to get an explanation. |
| 17:49.31 | hoxu | !tell Ben_Cs about release history |
| 17:49.36 | barnum | depends on what yuor after |
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| 17:49.58 | hoxu | !vague |
| 17:49.58 | dpkg | Hi, I've got a problem but I'm not going to explain it to you in a coherent way. I'm also going to annoy you by using contractions like "ur" and "ne", furthermore I'm going to make up my own abbreviations of technical phrases and terms |
| 17:50.03 | Jyzygzy- | so the x86_64 is said to add that NX bit |
| 17:50.25 | Jyzygzy- | i heard something about it being used with x86 too somehow? |
| 17:51.50 | Ben_Cs | hoxu, barnum: i know about stable unstable etc. i mean: lenny is as stable as ubuntu right? so why use etch? and then why use lenny and not ubuntu? what's bad about ubuntu? |
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| 17:52.24 | screamingbytes | hoxu: http://rafb.net/p/2ShpPw81.html |
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| 17:54.36 | hoxu | screamingbytes, /etc/skel/.profile has a working example of putting ~/bin in PATH |
| 17:55.26 | hoxu | screamingbytes, just use export FOO="BAR" with the quotes |
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| 17:56.28 | screamingbytes | hoxu: the original .bash_profile, and /etc/skel/.bash_profile are still in my pasted .bash_profile, it wasn't working that is why im asking for help. |
| 17:56.34 | screamingbytes | hoxu: its method 1 |
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| 17:57.05 | screamingbytes | hoxu: the only difference, the user .bash_profile has an export statement by default, and the /etc/skel/.bash_profile does not |
| 17:57.14 | hoxu | screamingbytes, well, as pointed out earlier, .bash_profile is for login shells, you need to put it in ~/.bashrc if you want it for all shells |
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| 17:57.18 | n3kl | wonders what sort of things should one authenticate agains ldap |
| 17:57.43 | screamingbytes | I have not tried that, ok, ill move it there. Ty vm |
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| 17:58.22 | screamingbytes | I will maintain the syntax you mentioned |
| 17:58.26 | bolt | Ben_Cs: I use etch because it's stable. It's pretty much rock solid once you've got it up, and none of the available updates wreak havoc with my config files. There's nothing bad about ubuntu, really, but I prefer the more manual, non-bubbly-interface kind of way. My 2c anyway. |
| 17:59.04 | PiousMinion | Can someone please tell me how I would extract ALL files from ALL the RARs in a dir? The man page for "unrar" seems useless. |
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| 17:59.43 | Jyzygzy- | you could try * instead of the filename |
| 17:59.46 | n3kl | for x in *.rar; do unrar x $x;done |
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| 17:59.50 | bolt | PiousMinion: ls -1 | grep ".rar$" | while read rarfile; do unrar e "$rarfile"; done |
| 17:59.51 | Jyzygzy- | or that |
| 17:59.53 | bolt | or somesuch |
| 17:59.56 | hoxu | !absg PiousMinion |
| 17:59.57 | dpkg | PiousMinion: abs-guide is the Advanced Bash-Scripting Guide to be found at http://www.tldp.org/guides.html#abs . It is also packaged, 'aptitude install abs-guide'. |
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| 18:00.09 | jmut | I just realized I don't have java plugin for iceweasal. Which package I need for this one, kinda not finding it? |
| 18:00.29 | Ben_Cs | bolt: bubbly - you mean beryl? it can be disabled. you mean ubuntu restricts you, when debian doesn't? |
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| 18:01.06 | omry | wtf? http://security-tracker.debian.net/tracker/CVE-2008-0598 : "DescriptionUnspecified vulnerability in the 32-bit and 64-bit emulation in the ..." |
| 18:01.10 | omry | of the what?! |
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| 18:01.43 | bolt | Ben_Cs: i know perfectly well that beryl can be disabled, along with all the tools, wizards and high-level configuration magic, as well as the default gnome install. i just don't like it. i like to do a base install and go from there. pretty much all distros can be customized to anyone's needs, however |
| 18:02.09 | Nathariel | Hi all. Does anybody know if it is possible to rsync multiple files to multiple desinations? Ex. rsync -av file1 file2 host:/file1_path file2_path |
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| 18:02.32 | bolt | Ben_Cs: and before you tell me, yes I know that the server version of ubuntu has a perfectly good base install with little to no extra fluff. |
| 18:02.35 | PiousMinion | bolt: idk why that worked, but it seems it did. |
| 18:02.43 | hoxu | Nathariel, nope, not with one command as far as I know, why would you need to? |
| 18:02.46 | bolt | PiousMinion: it should :) |
| 18:02.54 | Ben_Cs | bolt: you mean you like to have only the soft you need? |
| 18:03.07 | aivarasr | silly question: my current vps ip address is assigned to a hostname, so etc. when I connect to irc it shows the hostname, anyway to make it show only the ip address ? |
| 18:03.26 | Ben_Cs | bolt: i heard server install has lots of server soft which most ppl don't need |
| 18:03.27 | bolt | Ben_Cs: yes. just what I need, configured and installed manually by me. I know what's there, I know why it's there, I know what version it is at, and I know an update wont break it |
| 18:03.31 | hoxu | Nathariel, you could actually work around that with symlinks tricketry or something, if you really really really need to do it in just one rsync command |
| 18:03.36 | Nathariel | damn...Spent 2 days writing multi threaded script in order to be able to make pools with files, which should be updated using just 1 rsync call... |
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| 18:04.36 | Ben_Cs | bolt: ok thanks |
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| 18:05.13 | screamingbytes | hoxu: working perfectly, ty agian |
| 18:05.20 | screamingbytes | again* even |
| 18:05.34 | hoxu | Nathariel, read what I said, if it doesn't help, elaborate and perhaps someone has suggestions |
| 18:05.40 | hoxu | screamingbytes, no problem :) |
| 18:05.49 | Ben_Cs | i wander if the predictions i heard are true: that debian will become the base system linux and ubuntu will become the software vendors, or something like that. eventually meaning debian as a full linux will die |
| 18:05.59 | bolt | Ben_Cs: ubuntu, with all it's automation and user friendly doohickeys which makes MSCE people want to try and fiddle with it, means I'll never think of it as a good alternative for a server |
| 18:06.00 | Nathariel | hoxu, tnx for the advice, I will try it... I should have checked the rsync capabilities first.. |
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| 18:07.01 | bolt | Ben_Cs: also, the default theme is dreadful :P |
| 18:07.20 | zinx | Ben_Cs: Debian - 31 CDs. Ubuntu - 1 CD. Which one's not going to be "full" again? |
| 18:08.10 | dante_2core | debian <3 |
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| 18:08.31 | dante_2core | (I know this is kinda senseless to paste into a debian channel, but... still, sometimes I just feel like it.) |
| 18:08.59 | bolt | you negative troll, you |
| 18:09.29 | Ben_Cs | zinx: but if you put ubuntu repos on cd's it'll take same space as debian |
| 18:09.40 | bolt | the point being? |
| 18:09.57 | dante_2core | :P |
| 18:09.58 | bolt | having fun with running 20 different webservers on one machine? |
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| 18:10.21 | bolt | 50 window managers and 100 different ways to rename a directory? |
| 18:11.04 | Snadder | Anyone know where I can find image magik 6.3 or higher in debian etch? |
| 18:11.17 | bolt | i mean, i value the freedom to choose, but once i've chosen something, i don't want 30 cd's worth of other crap floating around |
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| 18:11.23 | zinx | Snadder: get graphicsmagick instead? |
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| 18:11.41 | zinx | Snadder: it has compatibility packages to make it work like imagemagick |
| 18:11.47 | dante_2core | Snadder, apt-cache policy says standard version in unstable is 6.3.7 |
| 18:12.04 | dante_2core | Snadder, oh wait. that's lenny ~ sorry. check on backports? |
| 18:12.13 | Ben_Cs | well, i'm installing debian with xfce on VM, will see how it is |
| 18:12.49 | dante_2core | I don't know, I just like having my debian very manual, doing most things in homegrown scripts - and the base install of debian allows me to do that very well |
| 18:13.02 | zinx | !info graphicsmagick etch |
| 18:13.20 | Snadder | dante_2core: I got up 7:6.2.4.5.dfsg1-0.14 |
| 18:13.31 | dpkg | graphicsmagick: (collection of image processing tools), section graphics, is optional. Version: 1.1.7-13 (etch), Packaged size: 903 kB, Installed size: 3396 kB |
| 18:13.32 | dante_2core | Snadder, yea, i'm on lenny, my bad, sorry |
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| 18:13.54 | bolt | dante_2core: exactly |
| 18:13.56 | zinx | Snadder: does graphicsmagick not do what you need? |
| 18:14.56 | dante_2core | bolt, well, I'm using mainly CLI programs across 3 screens with an SLI rig, so i'm not the standard user anyway :P |
| 18:14.58 | Snadder | zinx: I need to install an ruby module rmagick module..and it requires image magick 6.3 or higher.. can graphicsmagic do that? |
| 18:15.18 | zinx | Snadder: it very well may be able to with the compatibility library |
| 18:15.51 | zinx | Snadder: graphicsmagick-libmagick-dev-compat |
| 18:15.52 | bolt | dante_2core: 5 screens, 1 keyboard, ratpoison wm. no mouse needed. bliss. |
| 18:16.05 | dante_2core | bolt, I bow before you :P |
| 18:16.25 | dante_2core | bolt, 20"wide, 22"wide and 24"wide gives pretty darn many consoles :P |
| 18:16.36 | bolt | i have a mouse handy, though. tabbing through a web browser gets tiresome after a while |
| 18:16.50 | dante_2core | well, I have vimperator for that, heard of? |
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| 18:17.13 | pierre__ | hi |
| 18:17.16 | dante_2core | if you are the kinda person I think you are, you'll love it. it's a firefox extension that makes mouses in the webbrowser unneeded. |
| 18:17.56 | dante_2core | pierre__, hi |
| 18:18.14 | dante_2core | Snadder, your imagemagick problem resolved yet? |
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| 18:18.42 | dante_2core | I'd build some backport package thingy from source for you, but I don't know how to do backports, I only package software for my own system usually |
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| 18:19.08 | pierre__ | i'm looking for a (nice) way to launch a script each time a file is updated⦠how to do so please ? |
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| 18:19.47 | dante_2core | pierre__, ahm... there's a program to monitor files, lemme loo |
| 18:19.48 | dante_2core | look* |
| 18:19.59 | hoxu | pierre__, gamin might be what you are looking for |
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| 18:20.30 | hoxu | pierre__, or inotify-tools |
| 18:20.43 | dante_2core | pierre__, hoxu is right, and if it shan't be so big, there's fam |
| 18:21.04 | pierre__ | shan't ? |
| 18:21.08 | dante_2core | well... "big" - it's gui I think |
| 18:21.21 | dante_2core | should not, typo out of lazyness, sorry. |
| 18:21.43 | pierre__ | ah ok :-) |
| 18:21.51 | dante_2core | pierre__, oh, shan't actually does exist |
| 18:22.00 | dante_2core | I knew I heard it somewhere. it's a contraction of shall not |
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| 18:22.11 | pierre__ | is a non native speaker |
| 18:22.15 | dante_2core | http://www.thefreedictionary.com/shan%27t |
| 18:22.22 | dante_2core | too, but with a CAE diploma :P |
| 18:22.37 | pierre__ | rofl |
| 18:23.00 | pierre__ | thanks for the progs :-) |
| 18:23.05 | dante_2core | :P just read up on the descriptions of abovementioned programs, you'll find the right thing |
| 18:23.08 | dante_2core | np |
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| 18:26.12 | jpinx | I'm connected through a router - how do I find my public IP? |
| 18:26.28 | petemc | whatismyip.com |
| 18:26.47 | dante_2core | jpinx, if you need to do that regularly, there's a curl script somewhere |
| 18:27.10 | jpinx | thanks - got it :) |
| 18:27.13 | dante_2core | curl -s http://whatismyip.org/ |
| 18:27.15 | dante_2core | :P |
| 18:27.31 | petemc | lynx -dump http://whatismyip.com | awk '/Your IP Is/{print $NF}' |
| 18:28.44 | Xttor | What goes around... Good song |
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| 18:29.19 | petemc | lynx -dump http://whatismyip.com | awk '/Your IP Address Is/{print $NF}' , even |
| 18:29.51 | jpinx | ;) |
| 18:29.58 | Orion_X11 | Hi. Fsck hangs my system every 30 times and do not give me any message. Where do I put off "Quiet" fsck to see the messages? I do not like what de devs are doing in new debian releases they are hiding things in windows/ubuntu way :-( |
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| 18:31.27 | jpinx | Orion_X11: man fsck |
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| 18:31.39 | TIBS01 | hey ya |
| 18:31.45 | TIBS01 | can someone help me please |
| 18:31.52 | TIBS01 | how do i enable root login through proftpd / |
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| 18:33.07 | SeicherlBoB | hi! I encoutered serious problems after upgrading from sarge to etch. After the kernelupdate (2.4.27 to 2.6.18) and the a restart, the IDE drives are not correctly recognized. I get DMA Interrupt timeouts while trying to boot. I can still boot the old kernel, but the new one is on strike. Can someone help me with that? |
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| 18:34.25 | dark_templar_86 | TIBS01 there is a GUI tool for config proftpd |
| 18:34.37 | dark_templar_86 | called gproftpd |
| 18:34.51 | dante_2core | TIBS01, try if there's a manpage for the config file, lots of programs have that |
| 18:34.57 | dark_templar_86 | it may be useful for u |
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| 18:35.01 | dante_2core | dpkg -L <packagename> to see what it does |
| 18:35.01 | dpkg | ii <packagename> to see what it does 2.6-1.2 ultra s3kr1t #debian package |
| 18:35.07 | dante_2core | bah |
| 18:35.30 | TIBS01 | dante_2core ive been through man and theres nothing in there about it. |
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| 18:35.59 | dark_templar_86 | there are also invalid accounts in the proftpd.conf |
| 18:36.15 | dark_templar_86 | and i think root is in that list |
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| 18:37.04 | karlpinc | SeicherlBoB : Can't help, but I have suggestions. The first is to carefully read the upgrade docs. The second is to look at kernel_parameters.txt in the kernel docs (linux-doc package, IIRC) and see if there's not a dma related parameter. Finally, you could use a pastebin to post the console output at boot, if you've any way to capture it. |
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| 18:37.27 | Ben_Cs | is it only me or xfce is more stable than gnome and kde? |
| 18:37.32 | TIBS01 | dark_templar_86 |
| 18:37.34 | TIBS01 | im installing it |
| 18:37.49 | TIBS01 | now how i boot it ? |
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| 18:38.16 | SeicherlBoB | karlpinc: I'm googling for similar cases but most of them have DMA problems on a running system... |
| 18:38.19 | dark_templar_86 | write in console gproftpd |
| 18:38.26 | NeonLightning | Ben_Cs: its you altho it is better i'ed say |
| 18:38.33 | dark_templar_86 | :) |
| 18:38.46 | Ben_Cs | NeonLightning: how better? |
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| 18:39.11 | NeonLightning | Ben_Cs: i find it woks just as well slightly more intuitive and alot lighter |
| 18:39.35 | dark_templar_86 | you may think of using sftp with root account |
| 18:39.39 | TIBS01 | shell:/etc/proftpd# gproftpd |
| 18:39.39 | TIBS01 | -bash: gproftpd: command not found |
| 18:39.39 | TIBS01 | shell:/etc/proftpd# |
| 18:40.18 | TIBS01 | dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of gproftpd: |
| 18:40.18 | TIBS01 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:40.19 | dpkg | TIBS01: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
| 18:40.53 | Ben_Cs | NeonLightning: right. but i remember that a year ago, gnome stopped working one bright morning - showing empty windows. while xfce works all the time like an energizer bunny |
| 18:41.01 | dark_templar_86 | apt-get install gproftpd |
| 18:41.18 | dark_templar_86 | it will handle dependences |
| 18:41.26 | TIBS01 | The following packages have unmet dependencies. |
| 18:41.26 | TIBS01 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:41.26 | TIBS01 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:41.26 | TIBS01 | E: Unmet dependencies. Try âapt-get -f installâ with no packages (or specify a solution). |
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| 18:41.43 | TIBS01 | see |
| 18:41.57 | azeem | TIBS01: so your system is broken |
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| 18:42.04 | TIBS01 | ? |
| 18:42.08 | azeem | fix it before you think about root logins via ftp |
| 18:42.18 | dark_templar_86 | try running synaptic |
| 18:42.31 | TIBS01 | hell:/etc/proftpd# synaptic |
| 18:42.31 | TIBS01 | -bash: synaptic: command not found |
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| 18:42.42 | dark_templar_86 | and use the custom filters to fix broken packages |
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| 18:42.59 | deus___ | apt-get -f install |
| 18:43.03 | deus___ | do this >< |
| 18:43.12 | deus___ | it even suggest you to do it |
| 18:43.14 | NeonLightning | Ben_Cs: if you want guarenteed to work use twm if you want functionality go with another wm :P |
| 18:43.25 | TIBS01 | b (--unpack): |
| 18:43.25 | TIBS01 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:43.25 | TIBS01 | dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) |
| 18:43.25 | TIBS01 | Errors were encountered while processing: |
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| 18:43.42 | azeem | TIBS01: try getting the memo about pasting in the chan as well |
| 18:43.54 | TIBS01 | give me a paste bin then |
| 18:43.59 | azeem | !pastebin |
| 18:43.59 | dpkg | Please don't paste anything into the channel; use a paste site instead, like: http://paste.lisp.org, http://rafb.net/paste/, http://pastebin.ca/, http://picpaste.com for pics. --- Also ask me: <pastebin pipe> |
| 18:44.08 | Ben_Cs | NeonLightning: i preffer fluxbox over twm |
| 18:44.10 | Snadder | I installed rmagic trough gem.. and when Im testing it with: irb -rubygems -r RMagick and I got: /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rmagick-2.5.2/lib/RMagick2.so: libMagickCore.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory - /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rmagick-2.5.2/lib/RMagick2.so (LoadError).. When I set the LD_LIBRARY_PATH to "/usr/local/lib/" it works.. But im wondring how I can get apache or ruby to set that variable as defaul |
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| 18:44.28 | TIBS01 | http://rafb.net/p/K7z9wP29.html |
| 18:44.32 | NeonLightning | Ben_Cs: fluxbox is my prefered wm been using it since i got into linux 7 or 8 years ago |
| 18:44.39 | TIBS01 | there u go errors im geting |
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| 18:45.16 | azeem | TIBS01: right, so your system is broken |
| 18:45.17 | chickenkiller_ | was ist hier los |
| 18:45.21 | chickenkiller_ | oh |
| 18:45.22 | azeem | !de |
| 18:45.22 | dpkg | deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de) |
| 18:45.36 | azeem | TIBS01: remove that file from the cache and rerun apt-get |
| 18:45.49 | TIBS01 | remove wot file |
| 18:45.58 | azeem | the file mentioned as being corrupt |
| 18:46.00 | dark_templar_86 | TIBS01 are you running sid or lenny |
| 18:46.14 | TIBS01 | shell:~# uname -a |
| 18:46.14 | TIBS01 | Linux shell 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 #1 SMP Mon Jul 21 11:17:43 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 18:46.22 | deus___ | haha |
| 18:46.22 | azeem | TIBS01: please answer the question |
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| 18:46.39 | Ben_Cs | NeonLightning: i used fluxbox on a P2 linux playing pc, but on stronger pc's i preffer more GUI tools rich desktop environment (although fluxbox is WM) |
| 18:46.47 | TIBS01 | azeem I dunno wots u with it |
| 18:46.58 | TIBS01 | all i wanna do is enable root ftp login |
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| 18:47.23 | azeem | TIBS01: but your system is broken, d'oh |
| 18:47.33 | azeem | TIBS01: maybe it's a sign that you should not admin a server |
| 18:47.43 | TIBS01 | i own the server |
| 18:48.00 | TIBS01 | n e way back to loggin in as root |
| 18:48.04 | TIBS01 | ive just installed it |
| 18:48.14 | TIBS01 | so it can't be broken |
| 18:48.17 | NeonLightning | Ben_Cs: i use fluxbox on my p3 933mhz with 1gig of ram i see no reason to use another as all the other programs work fine in it |
| 18:48.21 | azeem | you pasted otherwise |
| 18:48.26 | TIBS01 | oh well |
| 18:48.31 | TIBS01 | aint got time to fix it |
| 18:48.38 | TIBS01 | just wanna enable root login as ftp |
| 18:48.39 | azeem | *shrug* |
| 18:49.15 | TIBS01 | azeem just tell me man |
| 18:49.15 | itchi | TIBS01: Call 654 564 456 456 |
| 18:49.20 | itchi | TIBS01: Is a good doctor |
| 18:49.20 | TIBS01 | yer k |
| 18:49.22 | dante_2core | I use ion3 on a 2.4 ghz Core2Duo :P |
| 18:49.26 | azeem | itchi: stop that |
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| 18:49.41 | itchi | azeem: Who ever want to login on ftp as root heh |
| 18:49.43 | Ben_Cs | NeonLightning: i mean that in fluxbox you have to use CLI more frequently, and the menu's are less intuitive |
| 18:49.50 | TIBS01 | i do |
| 18:49.56 | azeem | that's not our problem |
| 18:50.06 | dante_2core | Ben_Cs, well, the menus are the way you plot them yourself - which I like very much. |
| 18:50.10 | azeem | you asked your question, if somebody knows and wants to help you, they will |
| 18:50.11 | itchi | TIBS01: Hope it's "secured" ftp, even that is evil at all |
| 18:50.11 | barnum | its designed to not allow that as a means to protect those who would try to do foolish things |
| 18:50.16 | SeicherlBoB | karlpinc: About the DMA-problem: At startup i get hda timeout with errorcode 0x24 - what ever that means. |
| 18:50.25 | barnum | if you really need root login for data transfer lookat scp or sftp |
| 18:50.31 | Ben_Cs | dante_2core: right |
| 18:50.33 | barnum | but its a 'bad idea' |
| 18:50.36 | fengor | what is the best way to determine why a program segfaults after i made an update with aptitude dist-upgrade? i tried strace the binary but it didn't tell me anything i could make out |
| 18:50.48 | TIBS01 | he |
| 18:50.51 | dante_2core | Ben_Cs, I don't have any menus anyway, I just do aliases for things in zshell. |
| 18:51.08 | TIBS01 | itchi ijust wanna move me website over |
| 18:51.14 | TIBS01 | but ican't cos i can't login as root |
| 18:51.14 | barnum | try accomplishing what you want with permissions |
| 18:51.16 | barnum | use scp then |
| 18:51.32 | dante_2core | fengor, are you a developer or a user? developer - gdb, user - file a bug report with the patterns that lead to the error |
| 18:51.33 | azeem | barnum: maybe address people directly if you want them to read what you say |
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| 18:52.02 | itchi | TIBS01: reset your root password |
| 18:52.03 | SamuraiDio | hi |
| 18:52.10 | dark_templar_86 | TIBS01 u know that with root user you will have access to / |
| 18:52.17 | itchi | TIBS01: Did you protect grub with a password? |
| 18:52.18 | SamuraiDio | is kde4 already on debian testing or unstable? or still only on experimental? |
| 18:52.20 | TIBS01 | i know |
| 18:52.28 | dark_templar_86 | so you better use sftp |
| 18:52.28 | dante_2core | SamuraiDio, exp afaik |
| 18:52.34 | dante_2core | dpkg -L kdebase |
| 18:52.34 | dpkg | ii kdebase 3.1-12.1 ultra s3kr1t #debian package |
| 18:52.45 | TIBS01 | right installed |
| 18:52.47 | TIBS01 | scp |
| 18:52.51 | NeonLightning | Ben_Cs: yea i made up my own menus and have menumaker generate a submenu, plus i have keys files for common used programs |
| 18:52.52 | Ben_Cs | dante_2core: ok. |
| 18:52.53 | dante_2core | meh, I guess I'll never understand that darn bot XD |
| 18:53.07 | TIBS01 | now wot |
| 18:53.13 | azeem | TIBS01: read the documentation |
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| 18:53.18 | Ben_Cs | NeonLightning: didn't explore fluxbox deeply. |
| 18:53.29 | draeath | Do debian-installer questions go here? |
| 18:53.31 | TIBS01 | grrrrrrrrr all i wanna do it move me dam files |
| 18:53.59 | dante_2core | Ben_Cs, my most used programs are vim, irssi, zshell in general, ncmpc and things alike. doing almost everything in CLI makes tiling window managers ideal |
| 18:54.16 | draeath | Well, yell at me if this doesn't go here. |
| 18:54.31 | itchi | TIBS01: Take the time to learn your tools, with learning your tools, you may want to learn to break it. But don't break the tools because you won't learn it. So, search for a little scp introduction |
| 18:54.39 | Ben_Cs | dante_2core: but i use my linux as a production system, meaning i need more GUI software |
| 18:54.43 | TIBS01 | mmmm |
| 18:54.48 | TIBS01 | someone wanna sort it out for me |
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| 18:54.54 | azeem | TIBS01: no |
| 18:54.55 | TIBS01 | msg me |
| 18:54.59 | TIBS01 | ill give ya root pass |
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| 18:55.08 | Maulkin | giggles |
| 18:55.09 | NeonLightning | Ben_Cs: i use hydrogen, xchat, firefox, pidgin, xmms all set to keys |
| 18:55.11 | dante_2core | Ben_Cs, I produce code... in CLI :P I get your point. Are you an artist? |
| 18:55.15 | azeem | TIBS01: people who give out root pass are not welcome here |
| 18:55.20 | Ben_Cs | BTW, is lenny going to have the latest xfce version? (cause debian 4r4 doesn't) |
| 18:55.24 | TIBS01 | well |
| 18:55.27 | TIBS01 | someone help me then |
| 18:55.27 | itchi | ow, i did miss somethings heh :-) |
| 18:55.41 | azeem | TIBS01: you already stated your question, please don't repeat |
| 18:55.44 | n3kl | TIBS01: try the mv command |
| 18:55.48 | azeem | there's other people as well |
| 18:55.55 | Ben_Cs | dante_2core: no. i write GUI in java |
| 18:56.05 | TIBS01 | i got too many files to move |
| 18:56.09 | TIBS01 | using mv |
| 18:56.14 | dante_2core | well, then that's a clear case. |
| 18:56.29 | JPT | you can use wildcards with mv... |
| 18:56.30 | Maulkin | TIBS01: Contact someone from http://www.debian.org/consultants/#UK |
| 18:56.39 | dark_templar_86 | TIBS01 you may set proftpd to use your system users or its own users (i dont know where saved) |
| 18:56.46 | massmc_ | is there a skype cloan for commandline? |
| 18:56.50 | dark_templar_86 | and by default is the second |
| 18:56.54 | n3kl | JPT: I think there might be too many files to move for a * though |
| 18:56.54 | draeath | During install, just prior to the base system installation - is there a way to signify that all packages in the disc should be ignored and everything needs to be pulled from a network mirror? (i've got a damaged disc drive that can't read past a certain radius). I don't have any free media available to go get the netinst image. |
| 18:56.54 | massmc_ | clone* |
| 18:56.58 | n3kl | JPT: just guessing |
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| 18:57.15 | TIBS01 | mm |
| 18:57.18 | dark_templar_86 | but you must read the doc |
| 18:57.20 | JPT | :) |
| 18:57.22 | dante_2core | draeath, I love those delicate problems :P any kernel options to set something like that? |
| 18:57.24 | dark_templar_86 | i dont remember |
| 18:57.26 | TIBS01 | how about if i login through one user |
| 18:57.34 | TIBS01 | would i be able to write to a dir |
| 18:57.38 | draeath | dante_2core: not that I am aware of |
| 18:57.46 | TIBS01 | as in apache folder |
| 18:57.56 | dante_2core | draeath, I'm interested in that one, I'll start some googling :P hit me if you get any new info |
| 18:58.05 | dark_templar_86 | if you have the rights :) |
| 18:58.23 | draeath | dante_2core: I can do it once the base system is installed... you can chroot to the target and play with /etc/apt |
| 18:58.31 | dark_templar_86 | you even can make you proftpd to use the apache system user |
| 18:58.40 | dante_2core | draeath, what installer is it? lenny? |
| 18:58.40 | draeath | problem is It's dying while installing libncurses :D |
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| 18:58.52 | TIBS01 | is waiting how to enable root login through proftpd |
| 18:59.04 | n3kl | TIBS01: you don't |
| 18:59.05 | azeem | TIBS01: maybe don't call us 'cunts' then |
| 18:59.20 | n3kl | azeem: he called us "cunts"? |
| 18:59.22 | draeath | dante_2core: well, to be honest... it's the ubuntu one. So, lenny with some minor patches I would imagine. This seems to go past what those folks do to it though. |
| 18:59.25 | TIBS01 | LOL |
| 18:59.33 | dante_2core | draeath, any usb drives spare? you could create a bootup net-usbdrive |
| 18:59.41 | itchi | TIBS01: Don't search to activated that crazy root login with proftpd |
| 18:59.42 | dark_templar_86 | User apache |
| 18:59.42 | dark_templar_86 | Group apache |
| 18:59.43 | n3kl | I'll take root access ;), jk |
| 18:59.43 | dante_2core | I could walk you through, did that for my thinkpad recently |
| 18:59.52 | draeath | old hardware - floppy (dead), damaged cdrom, USB isn't bootable, PXE doesn't work. |
| 18:59.56 | n3kl | dark_templar_86: www-apache? |
| 19:00.01 | n3kl | dark_templar_86: www-data, sorry |
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| 19:00.07 | dante_2core | draeath, that one gets better by the minute :P i'm googling |
| 19:00.11 | dante_2core | which ubuntu one? |
| 19:00.20 | draeath | 8.04 |
| 19:00.22 | dante_2core | ok |
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| 19:00.30 | n3kl | the angry turdmouse? |
| 19:00.32 | azeem | draeath: ask #ubuntu, please |
| 19:00.32 | Ben_Cs | Anyone knows, if lenny is going to have the latest xfce version? (cause debian 4r4 doesn't) |
| 19:00.37 | SeicherlBoB | Can an empty hdparm.conf (except the "quiet" option) cause a 2.6.18 kernel to fail starting DMA on the harddrives while kernel 2.4.27 works? |
| 19:00.42 | TIBS01 | itchi i have googled it |
| 19:00.43 | TIBS01 | the lot |
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| 19:00.50 | TIBS01 | i can't find any help files |
| 19:00.54 | azeem | man scp |
| 19:00.56 | itchi | TIBS01: Well, as already said, look how you may use "scp" - secure copy |
| 19:01.00 | dante_2core | draeath, query |
| 19:01.05 | TIBS01 | ive added rootlogin on in proftpd |
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| 19:01.12 | Douglas_E | iwconfig sets up the wifi but what command activates it? |
| 19:01.18 | draeath | azeem: none of those friendly faces know how to touch debian-installer it seems. I could just see the looks of confusion when I mentioned I tried chrooting to the target mid-install ;D |
| 19:01.29 | n3kl | TIBS01: what are you trying to do? |
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| 19:01.30 | aviculturists | I'd like to know if anybody has a reccomendation concerning a domain registration company, which provides solid online dns management and provides me with dns service... i need no online space and no emails, just a proper dns zone admin interface and a domain migration. And Remember that all output will get mailed to you, so redirect it you don't want it. (If eggdrop just forks off and informs about this, you'll be fine probably, jus |
| 19:01.34 | azeem | draeath: that's not our problem |
| 19:01.36 | itchi | TIBS01: well, sorry but, you have the phone number heh :-p |
| 19:01.41 | azeem | draeath: their support team knows, I guess |
| 19:01.47 | aviculturists | I'd like to know if anybody has a reccomendation concerning a domain registration company, which provides solid online dns management and provides me with dns service... i need no online space and no emails, just a proper dns zone admin interface and a domain migration. And Remember that all output will get mailed to you, so redirect it you don't want it. (If eggdrop just forks off and informs about this, you'll be fine. 0314 |
| 19:01.49 | azeem | as in, commercial support |
| 19:01.51 | aviculturists | I'd like to know if anybody has a reccomendation concerning a domain registration company, which provides solid online dns management and provides me with dns service... i need no online space and no emails, just a proper dns zone admin interface and a domain migration. And Remember that all output will get mailed to you, so redirect it you don't want it. (If eggdrop just forks off and informs about this, you'll be fine. 0891 |
| 19:02.02 | aviculturists | I'd like to know if anybody has a reccomendation concerning a domain registration company, which provides solid online dns management and provides me with dns service... i need no online space and no emails, just a proper dns zone admin interface and a domain migration. And Remember that all output will get mailed to you, so redirect it you don't want it. (If eggdrop just forks off and informs about this, you'll be fine. 0047 |
| 19:02.02 | mmlj4 | idiot |
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| 19:02.02 | aviculturists | I'd like to know if anybody has a reccomendation concerning a domain registration company, which provides solid online dns management and provides me with dns service... i need no online space and no emails, just a proper dns zone admin interface and a domain migration. And Remember that all output will get mailed to you, so redirect it you don't want it. (If eggdrop just forks off and informs about this, you'll be fine. 0166 |
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| 19:02.05 | Vi^3PP | i have mutt configured, have gpg configured and did a dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config and made sure the update.conf file was right... however i was having problems with authentication to an outside smtp server... i am now trying nbsprc or someting like that ... is anyone up on how to get my mutt messages out to send |
| 19:02.06 | itchi | aviculturists: I didn't saw you message i think |
| 19:02.09 | azeem | aviculturists: don'T repeat, mkay? |
| 19:02.12 | TIBS01 | n3kl im trying to enable root login through proftpd |
| 19:02.12 | n3kl | aviculturists: stop pasting |
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| 19:02.20 | n3kl | TIBS01: that is stupid |
| 19:02.23 | TIBS01 | i know |
| 19:02.31 | TIBS01 | but i will disable |
| 19:02.32 | TIBS01 | after |
| 19:02.38 | n3kl | TIBS01: so don't do it. |
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| 19:02.46 | cahoot | is this channel replayed every 5 mins today? |
| 19:02.52 | itchi | TIBS01: Someone gave you already a link for the consultants, call they. They will help you |
| 19:03.09 | TIBS01 | in the proftpd.conf ive put rootlogin on |
| 19:03.16 | azeem | TIBS01: you already said that |
| 19:03.19 | n3kl | Vi^3PP: I think I have the same issue with smtp for gmail |
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| 19:03.21 | TIBS01 | at the bottom |
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| 19:03.21 | azeem | please don't repeast |
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| 19:03.24 | itchi | TIBS01: A good tip, don't say the consultant you want root access over ftp heh ;-) |
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| 19:03.39 | xand | !swfdec |
| 19:03.39 | dpkg | swfdec is probably another free flash implementation which can play youtube videos and integrates with GNOME |
| 19:03.49 | TIBS01 | oh man |
| 19:03.55 | TIBS01 | no one wants to help me |
| 19:04.12 | n3kl | TIBS01: did you restart the service? |
| 19:04.15 | itchi | TIBS01: Would you like sugest someone to kill him?? |
| 19:04.16 | TIBS01 | yer |
| 19:04.21 | azeem | nobody wants to spoonfeed you to shoot yourself in the foot, right |
| 19:04.24 | n3kl | TIBS01: go ask #proftp |
| 19:04.26 | azeem | we offered help |
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| 19:04.36 | TIBS01 | no one in there |
| 19:04.39 | Douglas_E | TIBS01: Me too and I thought I had an easy question! iwconfig sets up the wifi but what command activates it? |
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| 19:04.46 | n3kl | TIBS01: best of luck |
| 19:04.55 | TIBS01 | Douglas_E tell me about it |
| 19:04.55 | azeem | Douglas_E: what do you mean with activate? |
| 19:05.06 | n3kl | Douglas_E: ifup? ifconfig? |
| 19:05.07 | xand | why can't swfdec-mozilla be removed without removing gnome? (on lenny) |
| 19:05.09 | TIBS01 | i might just go back to freebsd |
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| 19:05.18 | TIBS01 | debians poo |
| 19:05.18 | azeem | TIBS01: be our guest |
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| 19:05.27 | itchi | TIBS01: If i was you, i won't even ask on #proftp how to setup root login |
| 19:05.29 | n3kl | TIBS01: good |
| 19:05.30 | Douglas_E | azeem turns it on after you have set it up. |
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| 19:05.41 | azeem | TIBS01: I don't think freebsd allows for ftp root login either, though |
| 19:05.56 | deus___ | xand, paste your sources.list |
| 19:06.00 | n3kl | azeem: ha |
| 19:06.09 | TIBS01 | well i enabled it before |
| 19:06.15 | SeicherlBoB | Can an empty hdparm.conf (except the "quiet" option) cause a 2.6.18 kernel to fail starting DMA on the harddrives while kernel 2.4.27 works? |
| 19:06.16 | TIBS01 | someone gave me the config |
| 19:06.19 | TIBS01 | and it still dont work.. |
| 19:06.41 | justin | SeicherlBoB: not likely |
| 19:06.59 | justin | SeicherlBoB: patebin your dmesg |
| 19:06.59 | faffi | hey guys, im trying to get chroot working over ssh, i can chroot to my directory fine and everythings working but when i try to ssh into the account i get "Could not chdir to home directory /var/chroot/: No such file or directory |
| 19:06.59 | faffi | /bin/bash: No such file or directory |
| 19:07.01 | TIBS01 | !pastebin |
| 19:07.01 | dpkg | Please don't paste anything into the channel; use a paste site instead, like: http://paste.lisp.org, http://rafb.net/paste/, http://pastebin.ca/, http://picpaste.com for pics. --- Also ask me: <pastebin pipe> |
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| 19:07.12 | faffi | mm |
| 19:07.12 | faffi | sorry |
| 19:07.15 | SeicherlBoB | justin: any suggestions why the new kernel wont start up? I dont even now where to look for the error |
| 19:07.17 | n3kl | SeicherlBoB: iirc, there are two ways to use hdparm. Don't remember what they are though, hdparm.conf and /etc/default/hdparm might have more info |
| 19:07.18 | faffi | i read everything up to the last line |
| 19:07.23 | justin | SeicherlBoB: dmesg. |
| 19:07.26 | TIBS01 | http://rafb.net/p/b4CQSW77.html |
| 19:07.31 | TIBS01 | thats wot i put in the config |
| 19:07.44 | justin | hdparm should not be needed to enable dma, if the kernel isn't doing it you have issues |
| 19:07.52 | n3kl | TIBS01: have you read your logs |
| 19:08.05 | Vi^3PP | n3kl, ya this is for gmail also |
| 19:08.06 | SeicherlBoB | justin: no entries. I had to boot with the old kernel and here everything is fine |
| 19:08.07 | justin | TIBS01: FFS. download winscp and use that. |
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| 19:08.23 | itchi | justin: Forget it, good people won't never help you to setup ftp for root login. That's just ways to evil. Believe it |
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| 19:08.32 | jamesstanley | Can anyone recommend any music composition/playback software? |
| 19:08.38 | justin | SeicherlBoB: boot the new kernel, and get the dmesg output |
| 19:08.46 | n3kl | Vi^3PP: if you file a bug, let me know and I will put my comments on it. there may already be one. Pase your config if you don't mind, just the relevent parts without passwords of course |
| 19:08.47 | justin | SeicherlBoB: you may have it in /var/log already |
| 19:08.54 | jamesstanley | I've used Sibelius a loooong time ago, but I'd like something free and for Linux (preferably in Lenny apt) |
| 19:08.55 | n3kl | Vi^3PP: i'd like to compare it to my own |
| 19:08.58 | SeicherlBoB | justin: the now kernel wont boot to a shell |
| 19:09.00 | EmleyMoor | I am trying to set up horde, but when I try to call up the horde framework to do the admin stuff, this happens in iceweasel: You have chosen to open which is a: PHTML file from: http://(myhost). What should Iceweasel do with this file? Open with (Browse...) or Save File |
| 19:09.11 | TIBS01 | jstin |
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| 19:09.17 | Vi^3PP | i dont think it is a bug im just not sure how to authenticate with exim4 |
| 19:09.18 | TIBS01 | or someone just tell me |
| 19:09.23 | Vi^3PP | i dont see an entry for it |
| 19:09.26 | itchi | EmleyMoor: Your webserver don't have php support? |
| 19:09.28 | dark_templar_86 | do sb know where will be iceweasel3 |
| 19:09.34 | dark_templar_86 | available for etch |
| 19:09.38 | n3kl | Vi^3PP: I thought this was for gmail? |
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| 19:09.43 | dark_templar_86 | *when |
| 19:10.02 | EmleyMoor | itchi: It should but I will restart it to be sure. |
| 19:10.14 | Vi^3PP | n3kl, it is for gmail.... i have pop set up i can get mail but i cant send it with mutt |
| 19:10.14 | itchi | EmleyMoor: Clear the iceweasel cache too, or better, restart iceweasel too |
| 19:10.23 | SeicherlBoB | justin: even recovery mode wont boot to a shell. It just keeps repeating the timeout messages on the screen |
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| 19:10.42 | justin | SeicherlBoB: then that is your problem, not hdparm |
| 19:10.49 | n3kl | Vi^3PP: so exim has nothing to do with this really |
| 19:10.50 | EmleyMoor | Ah, that's better... |
| 19:10.59 | justin | SeicherlBoB: unless 'starting hdparm' or whatever is the last message beforee it goes into the loop |
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| 19:11.09 | SeicherlBoB | justin: any suggestions where to look for the error? |
| 19:11.16 | n3kl | SeicherlBoB: dmesg |
| 19:11.24 | n3kl | SeicherlBoB: there were a few suggestions already |
| 19:11.29 | jamesstanley | rosegarden appears to be what I want |
| 19:11.33 | justin | SeicherlBoB: if your drive isn't working right, it is not going to be able to write the message to the disk |
| 19:11.39 | SeicherlBoB | n3kl: without a shell its hard to dmesg |
| 19:11.41 | n3kl | jamesstanley: what are you doing? |
| 19:11.52 | jamesstanley | Looking for music composition and playback software |
| 19:11.57 | n3kl | SeicherlBoB: scrlck |
| 19:12.14 | jamesstanley | SeicherlBoB, dmesg | less |
| 19:12.15 | ndo | Hi guys. I've got a little question. Are all the people complaining about Debian long release cycle, not getting right the purpose of Testing? I mean. I you release a stable. Week laiter its already outdated anyway. Isnt it better to have constantly developing testing, like it is in Debian, then release stables X times a year? So Debian testing is kind of frequently rereleased stable or something right? :) I mean, i understand it like this. And i find this way |
| 19:12.15 | ndo | mutch better then give some big names every X release and after a while its anyway to old compared to current version. Anyone any comments?:) ty&hf |
| 19:12.17 | xand | deus___: nm, this answers my problem: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=493307 |
| 19:12.18 | SeicherlBoB | n3kl: ? |
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| 19:12.29 | n3kl | jamesstanley: lmms, audacity, wired, hydrogen... |
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| 19:12.43 | n3kl | jamesstanley: there are a few others |
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| 19:12.47 | jamesstanley | OK |
| 19:12.52 | deus___ | good |
| 19:13.14 | jamesstanley | n3kl, I already have audacity, but it seems more 'geared' towards wave editing than actual music editing |
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| 19:13.16 | Vi^3PP | n3kl, well if exim is not authenticating properly it is an exim issue |
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| 19:13.28 | Vi^3PP | but i dont know how to get it to authenticate |
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| 19:13.37 | jamesstanley | I'll see what rosegarden's like |
| 19:13.49 | n3kl | jamesstanley: something else you might fine usefull: http://64studio.com/ |
| 19:13.54 | jamesstanley | Thanks |
| 19:14.03 | n3kl | jamesstanley: oh yeah, ardour also |
| 19:14.06 | SeicherlBoB | jamesstanley, n3kl: dmesg has no entries about the broken DMA because I've booted the old kernel. When I boot the now one, I dont get to a shell, so I can't dmesg the error |
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| 19:14.29 | jamesstanley | SeicherlBoB, I have no idea about your problem. I can't help. I just know about less ;) |
| 19:14.35 | SeicherlBoB | ;) |
| 19:14.41 | n3kl | SeicherlBoB: right, the scroll lock as mentioned will allow you to freeze the screen |
| 19:14.55 | SeicherlBoB | n3kl: during boot? |
| 19:15.16 | jamesstanley | SeicherlBoB, can you boot in single user mode? |
| 19:15.25 | ndo | am i alone?:) |
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| 19:15.36 | SeicherlBoB | jamesstanley: I tried recovery mode in grup. no chance |
| 19:15.40 | jamesstanley | OK |
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| 19:15.46 | n3kl | Vi^3PP: depending on your config, exim is not being used at all. If you are actaully trying to send mail from your local mta, then exim is the issue which means that you are most likely not sending from a gmail account, its either or. Either that, or I have totally missunderstood what you are trying to do |
| 19:15.51 | n3kl | SeicherlBoB: yes |
| 19:16.00 | n3kl | ndo: faster release cycles introduce instability |
| 19:16.19 | SeicherlBoB | ok. I have to reset my connection now to reboot. I will be back in a couple of minutes. |
| 19:16.20 | n3kl | ndo: it is not debians goal to be bleeding edge of anything. If you wnat bleeding edge run sid |
| 19:16.43 | ndo | n3kl: u dont get what i mean i guess:) |
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| 19:16.46 | Vi^3PP | n3kl, mutt is an mua if i remember right it will only read.... exim with an mta which sends mail out via smtp |
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| 19:16.54 | TIBS-laptop | right can someone help me please |
| 19:16.57 | ndo | n3kl: ill try onemoretime |
| 19:16.58 | faffi | Is there a way to check what configure options a debian package was compiled with? |
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| 19:17.16 | dante_2core | faffi, README.debian afaik |
| 19:17.16 | azeem | faffi: read the build log, e.g. |
| 19:17.21 | azeem | they are on buildd.debian.org |
| 19:17.24 | ndo | n3kl: look, if i release a stable today, in a view days its already old |
| 19:17.26 | n3kl | Vi^3PP: I am not sure if that is accurate |
| 19:17.26 | faffi | ok :) |
| 19:17.29 | azeem | dante_2core: nope |
| 19:17.37 | TIBS-laptop | how do i enable root login through proftpd ? |
| 19:17.39 | dante_2core | azeem, ok then :P sorry faffi. |
| 19:17.42 | n3kl | ndo: old, not unstable |
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| 19:17.55 | n3kl | ndo: the relase is not called flamming-new-shit, its called unstable |
| 19:18.01 | azeem | TIBS-laptop: you've been silenced 10 minutes for repeatedly repeating questions |
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| 19:18.03 | itchi | hell |
| 19:18.09 | n3kl | fire |
| 19:18.12 | n3kl | heat |
| 19:18.15 | n3kl | damnnation |
| 19:18.20 | ndo | n3kl: with FOSS software, with freedom to modify, i dont see even no sence in stable |
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| 19:18.38 | azeem | ndo: this is a support channel please keep it on topic |
| 19:18.38 | n3kl | ndo: ok |
| 19:18.44 | eddieBB | anyone know how i can extract an image file on Debian? |
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| 19:19.00 | xand | what kind of image file? |
| 19:19.05 | eddieBB | .iso |
| 19:19.08 | n3kl | eddieBB: there are lots of images, pictures, iso9660, vmware, xen, ? |
| 19:19.11 | itchi | eddieBB: mount it? |
| 19:19.17 | xand | eddieBB: mount -o loop somefile.iso /some/dir |
| 19:19.19 | xand | (as root) |
| 19:19.21 | ndo | n3kl: aint it better to provide access to updates, and here u go, thats exactly what testing is doing |
| 19:19.40 | n3kl | ndo: yeah, what the fuck is your point |
| 19:19.42 | eddieBB | xand: cool. thanks |
| 19:19.56 | eddieBB | xand: when i'm done. do i do unmount? |
| 19:20.01 | ndo | azeem: i have a little question on Debian, is it on topic?:) i mean sry of i says something offtop |
| 19:20.05 | n3kl | eddieBB: umount? |
| 19:20.06 | xand | eddieBB: umount /some/dir |
| 19:20.13 | azeem | ndo: read up on smart questions |
| 19:20.15 | n3kl | eddieBB: try reading 'man mount" |
| 19:20.19 | eddieBB | xand: nice. thanks again |
| 19:20.29 | eddieBB | n3kl: will do |
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| 19:21.31 | ndo | n3kl: my point is why do people even criticize Debians lont release cycle if u have testing anyway. Or doesnt they just get it? |
| 19:21.36 | jamesstanley | OK, rosegarden is running, but it complained that MIDI and Audio subsystems don't be working |
| 19:21.39 | azeem | ndo: ask them, not us |
| 19:21.55 | n3kl | ndo: why don't you ask them |
| 19:22.25 | faffi | if i want to create a chroot environment for ssh, i HAVE to install the opnssh source provided by chroot sourceforge right? |
| 19:22.31 | n3kl | ndo: I, for one, appreciate the time it takes for debian to verify that the next release is not going to hose my production env |
| 19:23.19 | SpeedyG | faffi: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ap-chroot-ssh-env.en.html |
| 19:23.37 | faffi | yeah scary part is thats what ive been working off of |
| 19:23.38 | ndo | ok, ty for suggestion, i will speak with someone about that. So got now what i meant to ask. And now i have usually this question to. So it is indeed like that. Testing is kind of continuous current right? As i understand it to be. |
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| 19:24.11 | azeem | ndo: try to rephrase your question |
| 19:24.18 | dante_2core | ndo, I think nothing's wrong with debian. I use testing and am current enough, if I need more bleeding edge, I just build packages myself. |
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| 19:25.02 | ndo | n3kl: im totally agree with you. Most of the time im someone long busy with the tast, tomake it good for sure. So this is perfect in my eyes. |
| 19:25.03 | n3kl | ndo: fairly, yes |
| 19:25.05 | SeicherlBoB | n3kl: back again. I'll reboot now and try scrlck |
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| 19:26.29 | n3kl | SeicherlBoB: ok |
| 19:26.50 | ndo | dante_2core: i dont think eather that something is wrong with debian, in my eyes debian is best distro. Maybe kind of New age Unix. :) |
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| 19:26.57 | EmleyMoor | Hmmm... I'm getting silent login failures on horde now |
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| 19:27.08 | n3kl | EmleyMoor: increase verbosity |
| 19:27.21 | EmleyMoor | n3kl: How do I increase that? |
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| 19:27.41 | n3kl | EmleyMoor: I have no idea, thats just the first thing you do when there are problems and no errors |
| 19:27.41 | ndo | azeem: sry, but i guess that my english isnt good enough to phrase it more correct. i guess thats the main trouble here. for me to phrase my question right:) |
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| 19:27.55 | n3kl | ndo: sounded fine to me |
| 19:28.03 | EmleyMoor | n3kl: A failed login is logged, but the plain login page just reappears for the user |
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| 19:29.13 | n3kl | EmleyMoor: I barely know what horde is man, sorry |
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| 19:30.27 | ndo | Does there stays a need for stable if you have already testing that is more then stable enough? |
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| 19:30.50 | EmleyMoor | ndo: For whom are you speaking? |
| 19:31.13 | ndo | EmleyMoor: you :D |
| 19:32.03 | EmleyMoor | Me? Well, I'm on testing with one thing I haven't got working again yet but I will allow three of the four machines to follow lenny as it goes stable |
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| 19:33.34 | ndo | Hmm. Im asking myself. Does testing becomes less stable after lenny becomes stable, and in his place comes new testing? ;) |
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| 19:34.05 | JPT | it should become old stable... :) |
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| 19:34.32 | ndo | ehm |
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| 19:34.38 | scurried | I installed rmagic trough gem.. and when Im testing it with: irb -rubygems -r RMagick and I got: /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rmagick-2.5.2/lib/RMagick2.so: libMagickCore.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory - /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rmagick-2.5.2/lib/RMagick2.so (LoadError).. When I set the LD_LIBRARY_PATH to "/usr/local/lib/" it works.. But im wondring how I can get apache or ruby to set that variable as de |
| 19:34.51 | SeicherlBoB | n3kl: Ok, scrlck wont do anything. All i can do is Shift-PgUP and down |
| 19:34.53 | scurried | I installed rmagic trough gem.. and when Im testing it with: irb -rubygems -r RMagick and I got: /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rmagick-2.5.2/lib/RMagick2.so: libMagickCore.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory - /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rmagick-2.5.2/lib/RMagick2.so (LoadError).. When I set the LD_LIBRARY_PATH to "/usr/local/lib/" it works.. But im wondring how I can get apache or ruby to set that variable. 0595 |
| 19:34.58 | scurried | I installed rmagic trough gem.. and when Im testing it with: irb -rubygems -r RMagick and I got: /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rmagick-2.5.2/lib/RMagick2.so: libMagickCore.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory - /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rmagick-2.5.2/lib/RMagick2.so (LoadError).. When I set the LD_LIBRARY_PATH to "/usr/local/lib/" it works.. But im wondring how I can get apache or ruby to set that variable. 0819 |
| 19:35.03 | dante_2core | scurried, stop re-pasting |
| 19:35.03 | scurried | I installed rmagic trough gem.. and when Im testing it with: irb -rubygems -r RMagick and I got: /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rmagick-2.5.2/lib/RMagick2.so: libMagickCore.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory - /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rmagick-2.5.2/lib/RMagick2.so (LoadError).. When I set the LD_LIBRARY_PATH to "/usr/local/lib/" it works.. But im wondring how I can get apache or ruby to set that variable. 0736 |
| 19:35.08 | scurried | I installed rmagic trough gem.. and when Im testing it with: irb -rubygems -r RMagick and I got: /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rmagick-2.5.2/lib/RMagick2.so: libMagickCore.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory - /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rmagick-2.5.2/lib/RMagick2.so (LoadError).. When I set the LD_LIBRARY_PATH to "/usr/local/lib/" it works.. But im wondring how I can get apache or ruby to set that variable. 0046 |
| 19:35.10 | dante_2core | -.- |
| 19:35.13 | scurried | I installed rmagic trough gem.. and when Im testing it with: irb -rubygems -r RMagick and I got: /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rmagick-2.5.2/lib/RMagick2.so: libMagickCore.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory - /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rmagick-2.5.2/lib/RMagick2.so (LoadError).. When I set the LD_LIBRARY_PATH to "/usr/local/lib/" it works.. But im wondring how I can get apache or ruby to set that variable. 0438 |
| 19:35.16 | SpeedyG | !ops scurried spammer |
| 19:35.17 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: speedyg complains about: scurried spammer |
| 19:35.18 | scurried | I installed rmagic trough gem.. and when Im testing it with: irb -rubygems -r RMagick and I got: /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rmagick-2.5.2/lib/RMagick2.so: libMagickCore.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory - /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rmagick-2.5.2/lib/RMagick2.so (LoadError).. When I set the LD_LIBRARY_PATH to "/usr/local/lib/" it works.. But im wondring how I can get apache or ruby to set that variable. 0004 |
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| 19:35.23 | scurried | I installed rmagic trough gem.. and when Im testing it with: irb -rubygems -r RMagick and I got: /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rmagick-2.5.2/lib/RMagick2.so: libMagickCore.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory - /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rmagick-2.5.2/lib/RMagick2.so (LoadError).. When I set the LD_LIBRARY_PATH to "/usr/local/lib/" it works.. But im wondring how I can get apache or ruby to set that variable. 0993 |
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| 19:35.28 | scurried | I installed rmagic trough gem.. and when Im testing it with: irb -rubygems -r RMagick and I got: /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rmagick-2.5.2/lib/RMagick2.so: libMagickCore.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory - /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rmagick-2.5.2/lib/RMagick2.so (LoadError).. When I set the LD_LIBRARY_PATH to "/usr/local/lib/" it works.. But im wondring how I can get apache or ruby to set that variable. 0230 |
| 19:35.32 | SeicherlBoB | can someone stop him? |
| 19:35.33 | scurried | I installed rmagic trough gem.. and when Im testing it with: irb -rubygems -r RMagick and I got: /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rmagick-2.5.2/lib/RMagick2.so: libMagickCore.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory - /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rmagick-2.5.2/lib/RMagick2.so (LoadError).. When I set the LD_LIBRARY_PATH to "/usr/local/lib/" it works.. But im wondring how I can get apache or ruby to set that variable. 0183 |
| 19:35.33 | dante_2core | !ops scurried spammer |
| 19:35.34 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: dante_2core complains about: scurried spammer |
| 19:35.38 | scurried | I installed rmagic trough gem.. and when Im testing it with: irb -rubygems -r RMagick and I got: /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rmagick-2.5.2/lib/RMagick2.so: libMagickCore.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory - /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rmagick-2.5.2/lib/RMagick2.so (LoadError).. When I set the LD_LIBRARY_PATH to "/usr/local/lib/" it works.. But im wondring how I can get apache or ruby to set that variable. 0518 |
| 19:35.39 | AcTiVaTe | !ops scurried spammer |
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| 19:35.43 | scurried | I installed rmagic trough gem.. and when Im testing it with: irb -rubygems -r RMagick and I got: /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rmagick-2.5.2/lib/RMagick2.so: libMagickCore.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory - /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rmagick-2.5.2/lib/RMagick2.so (LoadError).. When I set the LD_LIBRARY_PATH to "/usr/local/lib/" it works.. But im wondring how I can get apache or ruby to set that variable. 0439 |
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| 19:36.04 | dante_2core | ... good. |
| 19:36.15 | eraldo | could someone please help me with a .mdb database I need to convert to something that linux can deal with! I have tried mdb-tools, but output is different.. numbers that looked like this "13,54" now look something like this "13.0000" ! please I need help with this it is very important :/ |
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| 19:36.32 | EmleyMoor | I do now get Â"Login failed" back... but thee is no reason why it is failing... |
| 19:36.36 | dante_2core | eraldo, we need more info, though I don't know anything on the subject |
| 19:36.47 | dante_2core | EmleyMoor, check /var/log/messages |
| 19:36.47 | ndo | okay, guys, have a nice night;) |
| 19:36.50 | eraldo | dante_2core: what info do you need ? |
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| 19:36.54 | dante_2core | ndo, gnite |
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| 19:37.09 | ndo | ty |
| 19:37.12 | ndo | ;) |
| 19:37.26 | dante_2core | eraldo, well, I don't need any, as I don't know nothing about mdb, but you could pastebin the verbose output of the conversion, say how exacly you converted it, where the original thing came from etc |
| 19:37.28 | eraldo | dante_2core: it was created on a windows machine with access (german version) |
| 19:37.30 | dante_2core | np |
| 19:37.43 | SpeedyG | eraldo: if you have the option, try using the microsoft packages to convert the .mdb to a .csv |
| 19:37.46 | SeicherlBoB | n3kl: but i found out that the sata drives that used to be hde and hdg are now sda and sdb (scsi drives). But mdadm is not complaining. Can mdadm kill the DMA for the pata drives? |
| 19:37.56 | SpeedyG | that way, you can easily use it in almost any db-program |
| 19:38.17 | SpeedyG | (Microsoft access that is) |
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| 19:38.26 | EmleyMoor | dante_2core: horde does not log to that and the IMAP server isn't logging anything about it either |
| 19:39.03 | jamesstanley | I have got rosegarden to work, but it complains that it was unable to connect to JACK upon startup and it won't make any sounds. |
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| 19:39.08 | jamesstanley | I chose JACK in KControl |
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| 19:39.11 | dante_2core | EmleyMoor, oh, I didn't get the beginning - could you update me on the subject? email login failure? |
| 19:39.12 | rahsputin | i have set up a debian system with fluxbox and Xvesa... how can i start fluxbox without being root |
| 19:39.16 | rahsputin | my script: #!/bin/bash Xvesa -ac -screen 1024x768x24 r & DISPLAY=:0 fluxbox |
| 19:39.28 | SpeedyG | rahsputin: startx ? |
| 19:39.29 | dante_2core | rahsputin, error? |
| 19:39.31 | simonrvn | jamesstanley: jack has a daemon by which it runs, you need to set that up. |
| 19:39.46 | jamesstanley | 'apt-get install jackd' said it already had it |
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| 19:39.52 | dante_2core | jamesstanley, try man jackd |
| 19:39.57 | jamesstanley | OK |
| 19:39.59 | rahsputin | SpeedyG ?? |
| 19:40.04 | EmleyMoor | dante_2core: Set horde to use IMAP to authenticate and it's failing |
| 19:40.09 | simonrvn | rahsputin: why are you setting DISPLAY, and why are you trying to use Xvesa? |
| 19:40.11 | dante_2core | EmleyMoor, ok. |
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| 19:40.25 | jamesstanley | simonrvn, dante_2core, shouldn't KControl run jackd? |
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| 19:40.36 | dante_2core | EmleyMoor, horde as in... horde3? |
| 19:40.39 | simonrvn | rahsputin: and why aren't you using startx like SpeedyG suggested? |
| 19:40.40 | EmleyMoor | Yes |
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| 19:40.46 | simonrvn | jamesstanley: no |
| 19:40.48 | dante_2core | jamesstanley, don't think so, well, I dunno if it does. just make sure. |
| 19:40.50 | jamesstanley | OK |
| 19:40.56 | gnittor | jamesstanley, use qjackctl to run jackd from a gui |
| 19:40.57 | dante_2core | EmleyMoor, no idea about that, sorry :( |
| 19:41.00 | jamesstanley | I ran it manually with ALSA backend |
| 19:41.09 | frosty | adama, you there :P |
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| 19:41.09 | jamesstanley | Yay! It didn't complain |
| 19:41.12 | dante_2core | and, did it work? |
| 19:41.12 | dante_2core | :D |
| 19:41.14 | jamesstanley | Well it did, but not about that ;D |
| 19:41.22 | SeicherlBoB | lol |
| 19:41.22 | dante_2core | ^^ |
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| 19:41.47 | jamesstanley | Still doesn't make any sound :( |
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| 19:42.18 | rahsputin | simonrvn i'd rather use Xvesa than xorg since it uses up alot of my CPU |
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| 19:42.33 | gnittor | jamesstanley, have you tried any other apps than rosegarden to check jack? |
| 19:42.46 | simonrvn | !find bin/Xvesa |
| 19:42.53 | dante_2core | rahsputin, how'd you get xvesa? what package? |
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| 19:42.55 | simonrvn | doubts that exists... |
| 19:43.05 | jamesstanley | gnittor, any suggestions for programs? |
| 19:43.11 | jamesstanley | Ah |
| 19:43.15 | gnittor | audacity |
| 19:43.17 | gnittor | audacious |
| 19:43.18 | jamesstanley | Clicking 'Test sound' in KControl causes no sound |
| 19:43.38 | rahsputin | simonrvn nope nothing |
| 19:43.39 | dante_2core | all channels not muted? just double checking, not taking you for a fool |
| 19:43.53 | jamesstanley | It seems I am a fool |
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| 19:43.57 | dante_2core | ^^ |
| 19:43.58 | jamesstanley | I have no idea how to mute channels |
| 19:44.02 | simonrvn | i'm waiting on the bot, and hasn't responded yet... |
| 19:44.05 | EmleyMoor | How do I log in to my IMAP server by telnet to prove it's working? (What do I issue having connected?) |
| 19:44.10 | dante_2core | jamesstanley, hmn - well, can you play sounds with other alsa stuff? |
| 19:44.10 | simonrvn | jamesstanley: alsamixer |
| 19:44.12 | kenjy | hi guys I can't fix my debian repos, I did 4 changes but I continue getting a MD5SUM error, can you help me? this is the error: http://rafb.net/p/5xCcJf91.html |
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| 19:44.15 | rahsputin | simonrvn /usr/bin/xvesa |
| 19:44.15 | kenjy | can you help me? |
| 19:44.16 | amphi | jamesstanley: alsamixer, toggle with 'm' |
| 19:44.28 | jamesstanley | It was non-muted |
| 19:44.33 | jamesstanley | Testing audacity |
| 19:44.43 | simonrvn | rahsputin: wait |
| 19:44.47 | jamesstanley | Complained about no I/O host layer |
| 19:44.50 | jamesstanley | No sound |
| 19:45.00 | rahsputin | simonrvn Ok, i am patient |
| 19:45.02 | n3kl | jamesstanley: qjackctl might help |
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| 19:45.04 | dante_2core | bah, there's some kinda jack connection thingy |
| 19:45.04 | rahsputin | :D |
| 19:45.18 | jamesstanley | Thanks |
| 19:45.22 | kenjy | the problem appear to be in security debian |
| 19:45.41 | simonrvn | .:15:45:32:. <dpkg> Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'bin/xvesa' returned no results. |
| 19:45.46 | dante_2core | kenjy, never seen that one, did you google on it? |
| 19:45.48 | simonrvn | didn't think so |
| 19:45.52 | kenjy | dante_2core: yes |
| 19:45.59 | simonrvn | that's sid; lemme check etch |
| 19:46.05 | simonrvn | !+find bin/xvesa |
| 19:46.06 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 19:46.08 | simonrvn | !+find bin/xvesa etch |
| 19:46.09 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 19:46.12 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'bin/xvesa' returned no results. |
| 19:46.15 | simonrvn | woops :) |
| 19:46.15 | jamesstanley | OK |
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| 19:46.19 | jamesstanley | I just made sound work somehow |
| 19:46.25 | jamesstanley | I had turned all the volumes up |
| 19:46.28 | jamesstanley | My ears and speakers hurt |
| 19:46.30 | rahsputin | .. |
| 19:46.34 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'bin/xvesa' returned no results. |
| 19:46.35 | dante_2core | kenjy, it seems either your keys are wrong or the links, I don't know what it is |
| 19:46.37 | SpeedyG | lol SamuraiDio |
| 19:46.39 | simonrvn | rahsputin: where did you get that? |
| 19:46.41 | SpeedyG | euh jamesstanley |
| 19:46.55 | kenjy | dante_2core: a way to fix the keys? :S |
| 19:46.58 | dante_2core | jamesstanley, well, how did you get it to work? |
| 19:47.09 | dante_2core | kenjy, remove them and redownload I guess, but I am no expert at all |
| 19:47.10 | jamesstanley | Running qjackctl seemed to make it work |
| 19:47.16 | jamesstanley | Other than that I can't think what I did |
| 19:47.21 | jamesstanley | Testing rosegarden now |
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| 19:47.29 | EmleyMoor | Hmmm... the IMAP server accepts the username and password |
| 19:47.35 | kenjy | dante_2core: where can I fin this keys? |
| 19:47.52 | rahsputin | simonrvn www.pps.jussieu.fr/~jch/software/kdrive.html |
| 19:47.57 | dante_2core | kenjy, apt-key |
| 19:48.17 | SpeedyG | does anyone have an idea how it can be that my xorg process, after being idle for quite a while, starts taking up to 100% cpu and freezes my box? |
| 19:48.22 | SamuraiDio | SpeedyG, ???? :s |
| 19:48.36 | SpeedyG | SamuraiDio: sorry, that was meant to be for jamesstanley, not for you. |
| 19:48.52 | dante_2core | SpeedyG, zomg!! weird config? what graphics card? regression in the graphics driver? |
| 19:48.52 | jamesstanley | Huh? |
| 19:49.00 | SpeedyG | SamuraiDio: oh, and please dont ask how I could've made such a typo, i've got no clue either |
| 19:49.21 | SpeedyG | dante_2core: nvidia GF8500 running the sid drivers |
| 19:49.22 | simonrvn | rahsputin: we don't support 3rd party stuff... you should look at why xorg is doing that. how about telling us what you got there, what you're trying to accomplish, and how you're doing that. lspci output and xorg.conf very helpful too. |
| 19:49.23 | lex | anyone here uses postfix heavily in a large site? I dont want to put any kind of mailing list manager, but id like to have mailing lists such that the name of the destination list is preserved in the from or reply-to when mail is distributed to all recipients |
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| 19:49.34 | dante_2core | SpeedyG, hmn - any suggestion what it might be? |
| 19:49.36 | eddieBB | when i do "apt-get build-dep x264" i get "E: Unable to find a source package for x264". anyone know what's going on? |
| 19:49.53 | n3kl | lex: might try #postfix |
| 19:49.53 | dante_2core | SpeedyG, like... general direction |
| 19:50.02 | kenjy | dante_2core: if I remoe the keys with apt-key and then I do apt-get update its going to redownload it? |
| 19:50.04 | SpeedyG | dante_2core: I wish I had an idea.. all I know is that it freezes, does nothing and all I can do is reboot the box |
| 19:50.18 | dante_2core | kenjy, no, but it'll not complain, and you can google on re-getting them |
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| 19:50.32 | SeicherlBoB | n3kl: I found the following: "hda: lost interrupt" - can acpi=off be a good idea? |
| 19:50.33 | n3kl | eddieBB: you don't have a deb-src line in your sources |
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| 19:50.47 | SpeedyG | dante_2core: sometimes, when I get lucky, I can click on some program, and it suddenly unfreezes.. but thats more of an exception than regular |
| 19:50.49 | n3kl | SeicherlBoB: I thought you said it was sda, not hda? |
| 19:50.54 | dante_2core | SpeedyG, hmn - pastebin your xorg log and your xorg conf, please |
| 19:51.03 | kenjy | dante_2core: the error say that the file /var/lib/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_etch_updates_main_binary-i386_Packages don't exist |
| 19:51.23 | dante_2core | kenjy, hmn. touch the file and retry |
| 19:51.25 | SeicherlBoB | n3kl: 2 pata drives (hda and hdd), 2 sata drives (formerly hde and hdg, now sda and sdb) |
| 19:51.25 | jsn | I have one kernel option I need to change, is there a quick way to find it with make menuconfig, or do any of you know where it is set in the options hierarchy? It is CONFIG_NETDEVICES_MULTIQUEUE |
| 19:51.26 | eddieBB | n3kl: how do i check? sorry, i'm new to Linux |
| 19:51.42 | dante_2core | jsn, why not just change it in the config file? |
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| 19:52.05 | SeicherlBoB | n3kl: sorry for confusing you. |
| 19:52.05 | dante_2core | eddieBB, no problem with that, we all started sometime. |
| 19:52.17 | jsn | dante_2core, well, it says "OPTION is not set" and I don't know if it is M-only, Y-only, or what. |
| 19:52.20 | n3kl | eddieBB: your /etc/sources.list should contain a deb-src line. Why are you trying to compile codecs from source anyway? |
| 19:52.34 | dante_2core | jsn, hmn. kernel version? |
| 19:52.40 | eddieBB | n3kl: for encoding |
| 19:52.40 | rahsputin | simonrvn i am trying to enter Fluxbox with Xvesa on Debian Etch, i can accomplish this but it is as root ( i have to terminate my script $ sudo ./script to enter fluxbox, and that is what i wish to go around and enter user |
| 19:52.42 | jsn | dante_2core, 2.6.26 |
| 19:52.57 | n3kl | SeicherlBoB: take a photo of your console or something and paste it, I don't understand why you are having an issue or really wht the issue is |
| 19:52.57 | kenjy | dante_2core: after touching the file the error changed. It shows: Imposible to get http://security.debian.org/dists/etch/updates/main/source/Sources.bz2 The MD5 sum its different. |
| 19:53.05 | rahsputin | enter as user i mean |
| 19:53.06 | n3kl | eddieBB: whats wrong with just apt-get install x264? |
| 19:53.16 | dante_2core | jsn, just set it to Y and see wether it compiles? |
| 19:53.32 | SeicherlBoB | n3kl: that's untypical, but give me a moment to grap the cam and reboot. |
| 19:53.38 | eddieBB | n3kl: i was following a guide. |
| 19:53.41 | dante_2core | kenjy, then.... meh. |
| 19:53.48 | kenjy | dante_2core: then what? xD |
| 19:53.49 | simonrvn | rahsputin: why don't you use xorg? you said because it wedges (runs cpu at ~100%). that's why i want to see what you got. |
| 19:53.59 | jsn | this isn't a slow computer, but maybe just setting it the normal way will save me potentially hours of time waiting to see if it _does_ compile |
| 19:53.59 | amphi | eddieBB: you have a src line for debian mm in your sources.list? |
| 19:54.04 | n3kl | eddieBB: what guide? Shouldn't be any gain by compiling from source |
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| 19:54.12 | simonrvn | rahsputin: wanna figure out what's making it do that |
| 19:54.12 | jsn | there is no quick way to set one option, eh? THAT might be a nice thing to have |
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| 19:54.15 | dante_2core | kenjy, try finding someone more experienced in apt keys than me :P |
| 19:54.17 | SpeedyG | dante_2core: http://pastebin.ca/1185606 (.log) and http://pastebin.ca/1185607 (.conf) |
| 19:54.20 | enouf | eddieBB: as others are saying , use dmm |
| 19:54.23 | simonrvn | ...and stop it from doing so |
| 19:54.23 | kenjy | tnks dante_2core |
| 19:54.27 | kenjy | can some one help me? |
| 19:54.29 | jsn | enter the option and automatically go to that part of the options hierarchy |
| 19:54.32 | jsn | with info :) |
| 19:54.41 | eddieBB | n3kl: /etc/sources.list has nothing in it |
| 19:54.42 | kenjy | I can't do apt-get update, it shows: Imposible to get http://security.debian.org/dists/etch/updates/main/source/Sources.bz2 The MD5 sum its different. |
| 19:54.43 | triptec | can I start the debian installer from debian to install onto another disk? |
| 19:54.45 | dante_2core | kenjy, you could download the file manually, un-bz2 it and copy it to the old path |
| 19:54.56 | n3kl | eddieBB: uh, that could be the prolem |
| 19:54.59 | simonrvn | eddieBB: /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 19:55.22 | n3kl | er, ug |
| 19:55.27 | rahsputin | i have purged it and wish to use Xvesa since it doesn't give me problems on another machine i use... with debian sarge :D i set it up a long time ago and just have forgoten where to change privileges |
| 19:55.36 | rahsputin | simonrvn ^^^ |
| 19:55.37 | dante_2core | SpeedyG, log shows nothing wierd. lemme check config |
| 19:55.39 | enouf | eddieBB: yeah, wrong files are usually empty :-p |
| 19:55.54 | SpeedyG | dante_2core: check this log.old file: http://pastebin.ca/1185609 that does show some weird stuff |
| 19:56.13 | jsn | Could someone check their /boot/config-`uname -r` and see whether I should set CONFIG_NETDEVICES_MULTIQUEUE to M or Y to turn it on? |
| 19:56.21 | eddieBB | i'm in /etc/apt/sources.list. what am i looking for? |
| 19:56.31 | kenjy | where are stored the MD5 sum for the files of apt?¡ |
| 19:56.39 | dante_2core | SpeedyG, never seen that: |
| 19:56.40 | jsn | should have typed: could someone grep CONFIG_NETDEVICES_MULTIQUEUE /boot/config-`uname -r` |
| 19:56.41 | dante_2core | # |
| 19:56.41 | dante_2core | tossed event which came in late |
| 19:56.41 | dante_2core | # |
| 19:56.42 | dante_2core | mieqEnequeue: out-of-order valuator event; dropping. |
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| 19:57.04 | n3kl | jsn: set to yes on 2.6.25-2-486 |
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| 19:57.25 | eddieBB | n3kl: i'm in /etc/apt/sources.list. what am i looking for? |
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| 19:57.29 | dante_2core | bah darn |
| 19:57.35 | n3kl | eddieBB: a deb-src line |
| 19:57.36 | enouf | eddieBB: /msg dpkg dmm |
| 19:57.45 | kenjy | heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp |
| 19:57.48 | dante_2core | SpeedyG, google for the thing I pasted, looks weird. |
| 19:57.54 | jsn | n3kl, good enough for me! THANKS |
| 19:58.00 | kenjy | help http://rafb.net/p/XxLi5n90.html |
| 19:58.00 | n3kl | jsn: sure |
| 19:58.05 | dante_2core | kenjy, download the file that is given ( the thingy ending in .bz2 ) |
| 19:58.17 | dante_2core | then extract it and copy it to the path of the file you've mentioned before |
| 19:58.17 | enouf | jsn: that returns nothing here |
| 19:58.19 | eddieBB | n3kl: yes. i have one |
| 19:58.21 | kenjy | dante_2core: I did it |
| 19:58.29 | n3kl | kenjy: I can't read that |
| 19:58.33 | kenjy | dante_2core: the file its downloaded succesfully |
| 19:58.33 | eddieBB | n3kl: i have 3 |
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| 19:58.40 | kenjy | n3kl: why? |
| 19:58.51 | n3kl | kenjy: cause I don't speak that language |
| 19:58.57 | dante_2core | n3kl, it's basically.. "MD5 sum check failed |
| 19:59.07 | kenjy | dante_2core: I did mv Sources /var/lib/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_etch_updates_main_binary-i386_Packages |
| 19:59.15 | dante_2core | SpeedyG, could you repaste the link |
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| 19:59.15 | Saar | how can I tell a utility on debian to use /etc/hosts first? I added an IP to hosts file and restarted /etc/init.d/nscd, but no luck |
| 19:59.16 | n3kl | eddieBB: ok, good. Agains, whats wrong with apt-get install x264? |
| 19:59.16 | SpeedyG | dante_2core: there even is a bugreport on it .. apparently http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=462590 |
| 19:59.23 | n3kl | dante_2core: ah |
| 19:59.25 | kenjy | n3kl: What can I do? my debian its in spanish but there is not a spanish place to ask |
| 19:59.34 | jsn | There is no debian-es? |
| 19:59.36 | enouf | kenjy: preface your commands with LANG=C to obtain english output |
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| 19:59.42 | dante_2core | kenjy, let's find a way to translate it somehow. |
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| 20:00.08 | n3kl | dante_2core: babblefish |
| 20:00.14 | dante_2core | ^^ |
| 20:00.15 | kenjy | dante_2core: ok that LANG variable works |
| 20:00.18 | enouf | kenjy: LANG=C some-command-here ... |
| 20:00.24 | eddieBB | n3kl: i'll try. the guide said to follow it exactly is all. i just didn't want to screw up |
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| 20:00.42 | kenjy | enouf, n3kl and dante_2core: this is the output of the apt error http://rafb.net/p/57Burh62.html |
| 20:00.44 | n3kl | eddieBB: link me to the guide? What are you doing? I am intrigued |
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| 20:00.51 | eptalon | heyas |
| 20:00.55 | enouf | jsn there is, but he's speaking inglese :-P |
| 20:01.01 | eddieBB | n3kl: it's unlinkable. sorry |
| 20:01.06 | enouf | heh |
| 20:01.11 | enouf | troll |
| 20:01.21 | eptalon | If I want to copy something on an NFS server (large amounts of data), should I use cp or rsync? |
| 20:01.27 | Saar | anyone? |
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| 20:01.31 | dante_2core | eptalon, rsync I'd say |
| 20:01.35 | n3kl | kenjy: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 20:01.43 | dante_2core | Sememmon, what util |
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| 20:01.50 | dante_2core | Sememmon, sorry, wrong hl |
| 20:01.50 | eptalon | dante_2core: even if its not remote, at first sight? |
| 20:01.53 | dante_2core | Saar, what util? |
| 20:02.05 | simonrvn | meh |
| 20:02.06 | dante_2core | eptalon, rsync is generally better for bigger amounts of files |
| 20:02.13 | n3kl | eptalon: whats wrong with nfs, thats why you have it |
| 20:02.19 | dante_2core | it is verbose and uses compression over network |
| 20:02.28 | dante_2core | oh well |
| 20:02.30 | eptalon | n3kl: I dont have a gbit network yet. |
| 20:02.39 | Saar | dante_2core: anything, telnet, hosts, firefox |
| 20:02.39 | kenjy | n3kl: I tryed more than 4 diferents repos, the error its the same, the file exist in the repo, my sources.list its: http://rafb.net/p/rDUwYL58.html |
| 20:02.39 | dante_2core | if it's mounted, dunno. |
| 20:02.47 | Saar | no matter what I try it keeps resolving to another IP |
| 20:02.49 | enouf | your repo? |
| 20:02.54 | eptalon | dante_2core: Its mounted, nfs4 |
| 20:02.59 | dante_2core | Saar, so... the lookup goes wrong? |
| 20:03.01 | n3kl | eptalon: I am failing to see how you will gain any significan performance from using rsync over nfs |
| 20:03.16 | simonrvn | yeh really |
| 20:03.18 | dante_2core | Saar, in other words: a DNS problem |
| 20:03.25 | pickcoder | if the files are changing, then rsync would save bandwidth |
| 20:03.37 | pickcoder | for new files, it doesn't really make a difference |
| 20:03.39 | dante_2core | S |
| 20:03.40 | eptalon | n3kl: it can copy several parts in parallel? |
| 20:03.51 | dante_2core | Saar, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/etchosts-resolving-before-dns-resolving-111080/ <- this might have some info |
| 20:03.54 | n3kl | eptalon: I'd like to know what option that is |
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| 20:04.01 | simonrvn | ravenbird: test |
| 20:04.01 | kenjy | n3kl: any idea? |
| 20:04.08 | Saar | right thanks |
| 20:04.11 | rahsputin | simonrvn where can i get help on my issue |
| 20:04.16 | dante_2core | Saar, man host.conf |
| 20:04.18 | n3kl | kenjy: another apt-get update? |
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| 20:04.19 | dante_2core | np |
| 20:04.23 | n3kl | kenjy: dunno man |
| 20:04.26 | kenjy | n3kl: did it but same error |
| 20:04.37 | kenjy | n3kl: so I need to reinstall my production server? |
| 20:04.42 | simonrvn | rahsputin: the person who packaged that xvesa |
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| 20:04.43 | enouf | kenjy: stop |
| 20:04.44 | dante_2core | kenjy, no, don't just yet |
| 20:04.46 | enouf | relax |
| 20:04.49 | n3kl | kenjy: I doubt it. |
| 20:04.58 | n3kl | kenjy: I bet you have a dns conflict or something |
| 20:05.05 | kenjy | n3kl: I lose 3 hours in apt-get update |
| 20:05.05 | Saar | dante_2core: oops, duh, thanks :-) |
| 20:05.09 | dante_2core | kenjy, until you fubar a system so we can't save it, that takes long :P |
| 20:05.12 | rwaite | is there any way to run network-manager from openbox or fluxbox, or does it require gnome? |
| 20:05.13 | dante_2core | Saar, you're welcome |
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| 20:05.30 | n3kl | rwaite: try it |
| 20:05.34 | kenjy | n3kl: there is not a dns conflict: wget http://security.debian.org/dists/etch/updates/main/source/Sources.bz2 works |
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| 20:06.03 | enouf | kenjy: pastebin ls /var/lib/apt/lists |
| 20:06.05 | kenjy | n3kl, enouf and dante_2core: and wget http://security.debian.org/dists/etch/updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 works |
| 20:06.14 | rwaite | well, i installed ubuntu and it works with my wireless in my laptop flawlessly. but i'd prefer testing with a minimal setup. i was just wondering if anyone knew before blast this install away |
| 20:06.14 | enouf | kenjy: we know it exists |
| 20:06.37 | kenjy | enouf: and if I can download it then the problem is not a proxy or something like a dns problem |
| 20:06.49 | dante_2core | rwaite, network-manager is a daemon afaik, or not? |
| 20:06.50 | enouf | kenjy: correct, move on |
| 20:06.53 | kenjy | enouf: this is my lists: http://rafb.net/p/vpzgRD46.html |
| 20:06.55 | dhe | hi, is there a way to to say mysqld "use only 1 of 4 physically cpu cores" |
| 20:07.27 | simonrvn | dhe: check their docs |
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| 20:07.45 | dante_2core | kenjy, make that a ls -lh and re-paste, please |
| 20:07.52 | kenjy | enouf: the problem is that debian don't setup the new Source.bz2 and Packages.bz2 because the MD5 sum its different, so I need to reset it or something like that, but I don't know where |
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| 20:08.10 | dante_2core | kenjy, or disable the md5sumcheck temporarily |
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| 20:08.25 | kenjy | enouf, dante_2core: http://rafb.net/p/SbPAaD87.html |
| 20:08.42 | kenjy | enouf: where can I reset the md5 sums? |
| 20:08.50 | kenjy | dante_2core: where can I disable the md5 check? |
| 20:08.59 | dante_2core | kenjy, i'm looking into it right now |
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| 20:09.15 | kenjy | dante_core: 1000 tnks |
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| 20:09.17 | eddieBB | n3kl: my next step is "git clone git://git.videolan.org/x264". when i do that. i get this http://pastebin.ca/1185618 . |
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| 20:09.42 | kenjy | enouf: is there a way to reset the apt md5 sums? |
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| 20:10.04 | kenjy | enouf: what about apt-key? |
| 20:10.08 | dante_2core | kenjy, md5 sums are not reset, they are results of "integrity checks" of files, so they are set by what the file looks like |
| 20:10.08 | enouf | kenjy: i'm thinking ... |
| 20:10.08 | n3kl | eddieBB: dood, I have no idea what you are trying to do, I would like to see the link. Otherwise, you are on your own. |
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| 20:10.13 | dante_2core | win 18 |
| 20:10.23 | Saar | dante_2core: hm sttrrange, I added order hosts,dns to /etc/host.conf and restarted nscd for completeness sake, but the probl;em persists |
| 20:10.34 | Saar | ugh those typos :) |
| 20:10.35 | kenjy | tnks enouf |
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| 20:10.49 | kenjy | dante_2core: well what about disabling the check? |
| 20:10.51 | dante_2core | Saar, try and restart all network thingies, and re-ifup the network interfaces? |
| 20:10.54 | eddieBB | n3kl: i could give you the link but you would have no way to view it since it's private only. i can take a screenshot of the guide if you like? |
| 20:11.00 | Saar | right |
| 20:11.03 | dante_2core | kenjy, haven't found info on it, but still looking |
| 20:11.24 | n3kl | eddieBB: if its private, ask the person who wrote the guide |
| 20:11.24 | enouf | kenjy: try aptitude update pastebin entire output |
| 20:11.27 | rahsputin | how can i make a file have these priveleges: -rwxr-xr-x |
| 20:11.51 | eddieBB | n3kl: i can't. do you want the screenshot? it's not a long guide. |
| 20:12.01 | n3kl | eddieBB: I have no way of knowing what the issue really is without the completeness of seeing what is being asked of you |
| 20:12.19 | pickcoder | rahsputin: 755 |
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| 20:12.26 | eddieBB | n3kl: yes. that's why i'm offering a screenshot. you'll see exactly what i see |
| 20:12.38 | rahsputin | yoo, i just found it to ;D thanx |
| 20:12.45 | n3kl | eddieBB: paste it |
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| 20:13.02 | eddieBB | n3kl: okay. one sec |
| 20:13.08 | kenjy | enouf: the same error |
| 20:13.26 | Saar | no luck restarting networking |
| 20:13.30 | dante_2core | kenjy, you could try with apt-get update --diff-only or something |
| 20:13.41 | enouf | kenjy: do you ever use sudo? can you switch to regular user, and use/try 'sudo apt-get update' for us (same with aptitude)? |
| 20:13.45 | kenjy | dante_2core, enouf: http://rafb.net/p/NWZqqO85.html |
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| 20:14.04 | dante_2core | touch the file again |
| 20:14.13 | eddieBB | n3kl: http://pastebin.ca/1185620 |
| 20:14.25 | kenjy | enouf: I don't use sudo |
| 20:14.31 | rahsputin | and how do i set -rwsr-sr-x |
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| 20:14.45 | JPT | s ? |
| 20:14.51 | enouf | kenjy: does ls -l /var/lib/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_etch_updates_main_binary-i386_Packages return the file exists? |
| 20:15.02 | enouf | rahsputin: chmod |
| 20:15.11 | saimonn | chmod +s # suid bit |
| 20:15.16 | JPT | aah..ok.. |
| 20:15.18 | kenjy | enouf: no |
| 20:15.19 | kenjy | enouf: empoleon:~# LAN=en ls -l /var/lib/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_etch_updates_main_binary-i386_Package |
| 20:15.20 | kenjy | ls: /var/lib/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_etch_updates_main_binary-i386_Package: No existe el fichero o el directorio |
| 20:15.20 | kenjy | empoleon:~# |
| 20:15.23 | enouf | +sug |
| 20:15.27 | kenjy | enouf: the file don't exist |
| 20:15.27 | simonrvn | rahsputin: you don't want to set that setgid, setuid is enough. info chmod. have a freebie, but do go read that, ok? chmod 4755 |
| 20:15.39 | enouf | kenjy: ok, hang on ... |
| 20:15.39 | rahsputin | enouf chmod -rwsr-sr-x <file> ? |
| 20:15.47 | enouf | rahsputin: no |
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| 20:16.08 | enouf | chmod +sug file ,iirc |
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| 20:16.24 | enouf | oh wait, what is there now? |
| 20:16.58 | kenjy | any idea guys? :( |
| 20:16.58 | rahsputin | simonrvn thats the command i was looking for, but still don't know on which file to set it on |
| 20:17.25 | simonrvn | probably the xvesa binary... which is why i said only setuid is needed. |
| 20:17.48 | n3kl | eddieBB: so bassicly you are on step 2 |
| 20:18.00 | dante_2core | kenjy, touch it again. also, pastebin your apt-key list |
| 20:18.11 | rahsputin | ah,.. ok... i will look in to it, i hope it sticks this time if i do get it ;) |
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| 20:18.38 | enouf | kenjy: the file name is _Packages, not _Package |
| 20:18.42 | dante_2core | Saar, wait, i'll dig up the article I found recently |
| 20:18.43 | eddieBB | n3kl: yes. the git part |
| 20:19.00 | n3kl | eddieBB: I bet you will be able to follow the howto if you just install the binary |
| 20:19.02 | enouf | kenjy: have patience, i never ran into this before |
| 20:19.22 | eddieBB | n3kl: ?? |
| 20:19.33 | Saar | dante_2core: funny thing is, I can't get my.example.com to work, but my works, as in "10.1.1.200 my.example.com my" |
| 20:19.34 | n3kl | enouf: its a strange one |
| 20:19.50 | Saar | i can resolv my to 10.1.1.200 but not my.example.com |
| 20:19.55 | eddieBB | n3kl: i'm not sure what you mean? |
| 20:20.11 | SeicherlBoB | n3kl: ok. I have my fotolovestory... pictures 2.jpg to 8.jpg at http://www.stayduebeauty.com/peter.php?&dir=linux |
| 20:20.16 | n3kl | eddieBB: learn what you are doing man. do apt-get install x264 mplayer, then skip down to mkdir movie, and I guess it might work |
| 20:20.23 | dante_2core | Saar, then that could be a problem with the syntax of the hosts file, but I don't know about that |
| 20:20.28 | enouf | kenjy: and your paste http://rafb.net/p/vpzgRD46.html shows it exists there |
| 20:21.05 | simonrvn | Saar: because it has to find example.com before it finds my. that last my is an alias for my.example.com |
| 20:21.06 | dante_2core | kenjy, did you paste your apt-key list yet? |
| 20:21.14 | SeicherlBoB | n3kl: that's the weirdest "paste" i ever did |
| 20:21.18 | Saar | right |
| 20:21.24 | Saar | hm |
| 20:21.30 | faffi | !pastebin |
| 20:21.30 | dpkg | Please don't paste anything into the channel; use a paste site instead, like: http://paste.lisp.org, http://rafb.net/paste/, http://pastebin.ca/, http://picpaste.com for pics. --- Also ask me: <pastebin pipe> |
| 20:21.45 | eddieBB | n3kl: i only need help with "git clone git://git.videolan.org/x264" the rest should go smooth |
| 20:21.47 | simonrvn | you probably want to add example.com, and keep that my. but put that my.e.c after |
| 20:21.53 | simonrvn | Saar: ^^^ |
| 20:22.04 | screamingbytes | Does anyone know how to migrate all of your Evolution account info (accounts, passwds, etc...) so that when on the newer box it will have all of the accounts populated? I have already moved the ~/.gnome2_private/Evolution file, and data, so emails show, but there are no accounts in Evolution |
| 20:22.22 | faffi | could anybody let me know what these pam errors mean, i havent found much online |
| 20:22.23 | faffi | http://pastebin.ca/1185631 |
| 20:22.50 | enouf | eddieBB: i have a private guide i want you to follow .. it tells you how to break your system .. are you game? |
| 20:23.04 | n3kl | SeicherlBoB: yeah, thats the wierdest paste I have ever seen too. try adding noresume to the kernel line in you grub.conf |
| 20:23.13 | amphi | enouf: ;) |
| 20:23.13 | eddieBB | enouf: will it help me with this git problem? |
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| 20:23.26 | n3kl | SeicherlBoB: then, I also see, if that does not help, irqpoll option mentioned. Might try that next/also |
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| 20:23.28 | SeicherlBoB | n3kl: that would do what exactly? |
| 20:23.37 | enouf | eddieBB: it will cause many many more |
| 20:23.46 | Saar | ok, if I do "10.1.1.200 example.com" it will still try to reolve its external IP |
| 20:23.47 | n3kl | SeicherlBoB: noresume will keep your machine from trying to resume from a hubernate or suspend to disk |
| 20:23.51 | dante_2core | faffi, check your /etc/pam.d/ folder and the files there, and read up some manpages |
| 20:23.59 | eddieBB | enouf: cause many more what? |
| 20:24.02 | screamingbytes | faffi: looks like your missing a bunch of modules for the app that is spitting out the pam errors |
| 20:24.03 | SeicherlBoB | n3kl: that would be intelligent for a server ;) |
| 20:24.04 | Saar | anyways, thanks for the help, I figure I have overlooked some detail |
| 20:24.10 | faffi | but i have the modules im trying to use |
| 20:24.13 | kenjy | dante_2core: no |
| 20:24.20 | screamingbytes | faffi: are they loaded? |
| 20:24.21 | enouf | eddieBB: problems .. to add your bag of worms - you seem happy with them |
| 20:24.28 | kenjy | enouf: the file dont exist |
| 20:24.30 | n3kl | SeicherlBoB: indeed |
| 20:24.32 | screamingbytes | faffi: try lsmod and see |
| 20:24.38 | n3kl | SeicherlBoB: also, there is no kernel panic or something? |
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| 20:24.49 | ugly | in lspci -vvv output, it says that the "prefetchable" video ram of Region 0 of my video card is "disabled" - I'm trying to set up a block device on the RAM there, and I suspect the inability to mount any filesystem I create is related to that - any idea of the cause? |
| 20:24.55 | eddieBB | enouf: lol. sure i'll try the guide |
| 20:24.57 | kenjy | dante_2core: I did not pasted the apt-key list |
| 20:25.04 | faffi | screamingbytes, apparently they arent |
| 20:25.07 | enouf | kenjy: yes it does, ls -l it |
| 20:25.07 | faffi | weird |
| 20:25.14 | screamingbytes | faffi: well :) |
| 20:25.19 | SeicherlBoB | n3kl: nope. it keeps repeating those last 3 lines every couple of seconds until i hard-reset it. |
| 20:25.27 | kenjy | dante_2core: http://rafb.net/p/SUFDI313.html |
| 20:25.29 | enouf | eddieBB: ok, give me a few days, i have to get it just right for you ;-) |
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| 20:25.39 | linnuxxy | will future releases include OpenJDK, Tomcat, Eclipse out-of-the-box? |
| 20:25.56 | enouf | kenjy: show me --> ls -l /var/lib/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_etch_updates_main_binary-i386_Packages |
| 20:25.58 | ugly | additionally, I get a dmesg error saying "PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 0 of device 0000:00:00.0", which looks related to the "PCI bridge range sizing" bug mentioned on a LKML thread.. |
| 20:26.08 | SeicherlBoB | n3kl: I'll check noresume and reboot. be right back. |
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| 20:26.09 | simonrvn | Saar: well, you'll have to add the non-routable ip to your dns, then. |
| 20:26.23 | dante_2core | kenjy, you could apt-key rem all those keys, and then try again |
| 20:26.30 | dante_2core | I think if the keys are not there there's no md5sum check |
| 20:26.32 | eddieBB | enouf: wow. a whole guide just for me? how could i ever return the favor? |
| 20:26.32 | kenjy | enouf: empoleon:~# ls -l /var/lib/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_etch_updates_main_binary-i386_Packages |
| 20:26.32 | kenjy | ls: /var/lib/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_etch_updates_main_binary-i386_Packages: No existe el fichero o el directorio |
| 20:26.32 | kenjy | empoleon:~# |
| 20:26.34 | dante_2core | but no guarantee on that |
| 20:27.00 | enouf | kenjy: something is very broken |
| 20:27.01 | kenjy | dante_2core: if I remove all the keys, if I do a apt-get update its going to redownload the keys? |
| 20:27.22 | dante_2core | kenjy, no, it's gonna complain about not having the keys, but it'll update anyway - at least it does for me. |
| 20:27.29 | dante_2core | you can get the keys back later. |
| 20:27.42 | kenjy | dante_2core: where can I find the keys? |
| 20:27.51 | dante_2core | man apt-key |
| 20:28.11 | enouf | kenjy: like your mount or .. i can't think of why "ls /var/lib/apt/lists/" would show the file |
| 20:28.18 | kenjy | dante_2core: apt-key rem all shows the help of apt-key |
| 20:28.37 | dante_2core | kenjy, that's why I said read man apt-key |
| 20:28.50 | dante_2core | the syntax is apt-key rem <id of the key>, try the names of the keys |
| 20:29.05 | enouf | kenjy: show me the output of 'mount' and 'df -T' |
| 20:29.07 | kenjy | enouf: it do't show it look at this http://rafb.net/p/JVjh0W13.html |
| 20:29.09 | eddieBB | can anyone help me? my next step is "git clone git://git.videolan.org/x264". when i do that. i get this http://pastebin.ca/1185618 . |
| 20:29.22 | faffi | screamingbytes, the other modules are working but arent present in lsmod |
| 20:29.39 | faffi | i should probably be more specific |
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| 20:30.04 | kenjy | enouf: http://rafb.net/p/ujIS2n38.html |
| 20:30.06 | faffi | im setting up a chroot env and i think some of the pam settings need to be copied in the jail |
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| 20:30.48 | dante_2core | eddieBB, that's fine, it's just a notice about things changing names |
| 20:31.03 | kenjy | enouf: any idea? |
| 20:31.14 | eddieBB | dante_2core: so it worked? |
| 20:31.15 | dante_2core | I'm busy now, gotta do some school work |
| 20:31.22 | dante_2core | eddieBB, well did you press return? |
| 20:31.27 | eddieBB | dante_2core: yes |
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| 20:31.55 | enouf | kenjy: yes, stop playing fucken games |
| 20:31.57 | dante_2core | well, try and install cogito and git-core, and then do man 7 git |
| 20:32.00 | enouf | http://rafb.net/p/vpzgRD46.html <-- the file exists |
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| 20:32.15 | screamingbytes | faffi: afaik they do |
| 20:32.20 | enouf | now, you get plonked |
| 20:32.28 | eddieBB | dante_2core: i get this after return. "usr/bin/gitfm: fatal error: `chdir' failed: permission denied." |
| 20:32.29 | kenjy | enouf: why do you say that? Im not playing any game :S |
| 20:32.34 | faffi | now i need to figure out which ones >_< |
| 20:32.42 | screamingbytes | faffi: lol, ugh |
| 20:32.49 | dante_2core | eddieBB, baam - looks like the checkout line has some problem |
| 20:32.55 | screamingbytes | faffi: whats the app? |
| 20:32.59 | screamingbytes | faffi: apache? |
| 20:33.02 | faffi | ssh |
| 20:33.04 | faffi | chroot |
| 20:33.14 | eddieBB | dante_2core: can it be fixed? |
| 20:33.24 | dante_2core | same error here. |
| 20:33.37 | screamingbytes | faffi: are you following a doc? |
| 20:33.50 | faffi | i was following the debian sec guide but it flailed me so i went online |
| 20:33.56 | SeicherlBoB | n3kl: hda gets irq 185 which is disabled later. I try irqpoll now |
| 20:34.24 | faffi | screamingbytes, i can actually ssh into the chrooted env, but i get an error and those PAM errors |
| 20:34.39 | faffi | and the chroot is working |
| 20:34.39 | screamingbytes | faffi: k, are you going just for ssh, or sftp etc.. |
| 20:34.39 | faffi | but errors are no good |
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| 20:34.39 | faffi | just ssh |
| 20:35.03 | faffi | i think some of the pam modules need to be copied over, i created the jail with makejail and it was as simple as it could get |
| 20:35.18 | dante_2core | faffi, looks like there's something wrong with the git thing |
| 20:35.24 | dante_2core | get a daily tarball instead |
| 20:35.31 | faffi | of what? |
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| 20:35.41 | kenjy | can some one help me please? |
| 20:35.42 | SpeedyG | *mad daddy voice* dante_2core you were gonna do some schoolwork didnt you! |
| 20:35.43 | SpeedyG | ;) |
| 20:35.47 | dante_2core | x264 |
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| 20:36.17 | dante_2core | kenjy, it looks like there's noone here knowing what to do with that problem right now, try again some later... |
| 20:36.30 | kenjy | dante_2core: tnks :( |
| 20:36.34 | dante_2core | np |
| 20:36.37 | screamingbytes | faffi: see if you got these modules http://www.howtoforge.com/chrooted_ssh_howto_debian_p2 |
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| 20:36.54 | dante_2core | kenjy, but don't reintsall, nothing is lost yet |
| 20:37.21 | SeicherlBoB | n3kl: YESSIR! |
| 20:37.22 | eddieBB | dante_2core: figure anything out? |
| 20:37.26 | scintilla | bye |
| 20:37.29 | dante_2core | eddieBB, about your pam thingie? |
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| 20:37.34 | faffi | k screamingbytes, working on it i'll be back |
| 20:37.35 | dante_2core | oh no, the git one |
| 20:37.43 | dante_2core | eddieBB, just get a daily tarball and install from there |
| 20:37.45 | n3kl | SeicherlBoB: what? |
| 20:37.47 | SeicherlBoB | n3kl: strike! irqpoll and i have a fine fsck running smoothly! |
| 20:37.54 | kenjy | dante_2core |
| 20:37.58 | eddieBB | dante_2core: how do i do that? |
| 20:38.02 | EugenMayer | iam going to install debian on an older EPIA-M meinboard with an via C3 cpu. Which architecture do i have to choose? |
| 20:38.08 | n3kl | SeicherlBoB: glad to hear it! |
| 20:38.09 | dante_2core | eddieBB, http://www.videolan.org/developers/x264.html |
| 20:38.30 | googlah | I have a harddrive on /dev/hdc1... there is no partition. Any way to make it to "ext3"? |
| 20:38.31 | SeicherlBoB | n3kl: the only question is why, but i think i wont care as long as i manage to edit the grub line |
| 20:38.51 | dante_2core | EugenMayer, hum - if unsure take i386 and make a custom kernel? |
| 20:39.01 | n3kl | SeicherlBoB: I have a few of those lines I have to manage differently on different hardware |
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| 20:39.17 | SeicherlBoB | n3kl: need to go back to the server and see if everything is fine now |
| 20:39.18 | EugenMayer | dante_2core: yeah might be the best way. but it is x68 ? |
| 20:39.21 | SpeedyG | googlah: saying /dev/hdc1 is referring to a partition.. either you've got a disc on /dev/hdc, or a partition on /dev/hdc1 ;) |
| 20:39.34 | SpeedyG | googlah: and you can create a partition on it using mke2fs |
| 20:39.43 | SpeedyG | of euh |
| 20:39.44 | dante_2core | EugenMayer, look there: http://five.nocrew.org/via/debian.html |
| 20:39.45 | SpeedyG | rather |
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| 20:39.52 | SpeedyG | using something like cfdisk I mean |
| 20:40.02 | dante_2core | EugenMayer, I don't know, I'd say rather not |
| 20:40.05 | eddieBB | dante_2core: which one do i pick? |
| 20:40.12 | EugenMayer | dante_2core: thank you |
| 20:40.16 | googlah | SpeedyG: sorry. I mean /dev/hdc, of course. ;) |
| 20:40.16 | dante_2core | eddieBB, dunno, paste the link where the files are |
| 20:40.18 | dante_2core | EugenMayer, no problem |
| 20:40.27 | arina | After setting up an LDAP server, I can no longer use gksu, however, I can still use sudo just fine. Instead when I try to run something with gksu such as synaptic or update-manager, etc. I get the following error: http://imagebin.ca/view/0sjkkSWa.html |
| 20:40.33 | googlah | speedyG: do you know the right command with mk2fs? |
| 20:40.37 | eddieBB | ftp://ftp.videolan.org/pub/videolan/x264/snapshots/ |
| 20:40.50 | SpeedyG | googlah: with cfdisk /dev/hdc you can edit the partitiontable |
| 20:40.51 | arina | this error message looks like a bug as it doesn't even spell "Password:" correctly |
| 20:41.16 | SpeedyG | and after you've done that, you can create a filesystem on the partition using mke2fs -j /dev/hdc1 (for ext3) |
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| 20:41.46 | googlah | SpeedyG: Thanks, I'll look at it |
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| 20:42.14 | Eressolar | Someone enlighten the debian newb please... Are the 404 errors I receive on Lenny when performing an aptitude update a result of the repos not being available yet> |
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| 20:42.20 | dante_2core | eddieBB, no files displayed for me there ~ |
| 20:42.34 | dante_2core | eddieBB, oh, now. well, the newest one |
| 20:42.38 | eddieBB | dante_2core: it displays about a million for me |
| 20:42.46 | n3kl | Eressolar: ya |
| 20:42.50 | dante_2core | eddieBB, the lowest one, that is |
| 20:43.30 | Eressolar | n3kl: Alright, thanks |
| 20:43.31 | unop | Eressolar, you might want to aptitude update |
| 20:43.42 | SpeedyG | Eressolar: or a mistyped url perhaps |
| 20:43.57 | eddieBB | dante_2core: so i just wget the newest one right? |
| 20:44.08 | dante_2core | eddieBB, yes. |
| 20:44.16 | SeicherlBoB | n3kl: perfectly fine. everything is there, even the mdadm brought up all drives |
| 20:44.35 | n3kl | SeicherlBoB: good |
| 20:44.54 | Eressolar | SpeedyG: Well, I perform an aptitude update immediately after install, so I would hope a fresh sources.list wouldn't contain url errors |
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| 20:45.03 | n3kl | eddieBB: dood, you know there are better howtos for ripping movies right? |
| 20:45.04 | dante_2core | i'm busy now, afk |
| 20:45.09 | SeicherlBoB | n3kl: thanks a f***ing lot! really. Although all I learned today was: rtf-messages on the screen "try booting with the irqpoll option" |
| 20:45.14 | SeicherlBoB | lol |
| 20:46.07 | eddieBB | n3kl: actually there isn't |
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| 20:46.07 | n3kl | SeicherlBoB: np, reading really helps, the more you play with linux, the more of that shit makes sense |
| 20:46.07 | eddieBB | n3kl: maybe if you wanna rip a crappy xvid or something |
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| 20:46.08 | SeicherlBoB | n3kl: but i can't play with a server that needs to be up and running for a small company ;) |
| 20:46.11 | amphi | SeicherlBoB: irqpoll is teh sukc |
| 20:46.13 | n3kl | SeicherlBoB: true |
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| 20:46.26 | n3kl | amphi: do you know what it does? |
| 20:46.38 | n3kl | eddieBB: if you say so |
| 20:46.41 | dante_2core | eddieBB, you on 64bit? |
| 20:46.41 | SeicherlBoB | well, here it does: "working" |
| 20:46.58 | eddieBB | dante_2core: i'm not sure. |
| 20:46.59 | dante_2core | afk, call me |
| 20:47.04 | dante_2core | eddieBB, uname -a |
| 20:47.27 | eddieBB | MP Fri Jun 6 22:22:11 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 20:47.31 | amphi | n3kl: I read about it once, I forget the details; it seemed definitely something for emergency use only; I had to use it with one kernel, on my laptop |
| 20:47.32 | dante_2core | no 64bit then. |
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| 20:47.47 | dante_2core | eddieBB, I just made a 64bit debian package of the newest xs64 snapshot |
| 20:47.51 | n3kl | amphi: ah |
| 20:47.52 | dante_2core | x264* |
| 20:47.58 | SeicherlBoB | n3kl: hehe |
| 20:48.13 | dante_2core | if anyone can tell me how to "make" things for 32bit while on a 64bit box, tell me |
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| 20:48.54 | amphi | n3kl: it was a solution to "IRQ N: nobody cared, disabling device" type messages AIR |
| 20:49.28 | n3kl | amphi: yeah, same message SeicherlBoB was getting |
| 20:49.28 | eddieBB | dante_2core: just finished the wget. how do i install from here? |
| 20:49.29 | dante_2core | afk, call me |
| 20:49.32 | n3kl | amphi: funny message |
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| 20:49.57 | dante_2core | eddieBB, get in there, do a ./configure --prefix=/usr and see what it does |
| 20:50.04 | dante_2core | you'll need yasm and git-core for that, thoguh |
| 20:50.06 | amphi | n3kl: a usb port then ceased to function |
| 20:50.28 | SeicherlBoB | amphi: it's a server. I dont need USB there |
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| 20:50.42 | eddieBB | dante_2core: so input "./configure --prefix=/usr"? |
| 20:50.42 | dante_2core | afk, call me |
| 20:51.00 | dante_2core | eddieBB, did you unpack the snapshot and get into the directory? |
| 20:51.16 | eddieBB | dante_2core: i'm not sure how to do that. i'm new to Linux |
| 20:51.17 | dante_2core | afk, call me |
| 20:51.19 | dante_2core | eddieBB, you're about to compile a program yourself, there are howtos around for that actually |
| 20:51.40 | amphi | SeicherlBoB: do you know what device is affected? |
| 20:51.41 | dante_2core | eddieBB, then... don't do it just yet, I need to leave soon so I can't walk you through with the patience I find necessery to do so |
| 20:52.12 | eddieBB | dante_2core: can you recommend anyone? |
| 20:52.12 | dante_2core | afk, call me |
| 20:52.17 | amphi | SeicherlBoB: if it is a usb port/controller you don't need, it's probably worth not using irqpoll |
| 20:52.17 | SeicherlBoB | amphi: my hda |
| 20:52.19 | kenjy | how apt-get compare the md5 sum from Sources.bz2? md5sum returns: f9ee7a09685d436dd7f06e0ea4b2c241 Sources.bz2 where is the other number to compare? |
| 20:52.25 | amphi | SeicherlBoB: ah ;) |
| 20:52.33 | SeicherlBoB | amphi: i could not even boot to a shell |
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| 20:52.45 | dante_2core | eddieBB, install build-essential, and google for "linux compiling programs from source" |
| 20:52.54 | dante_2core | eddieBB, install "checkinstall" and read its manpage |
| 20:53.01 | kenjy | any one? |
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| 20:54.13 | dante_2core | kenjy, no idea sorry, google on it further |
| 20:54.35 | SeicherlBoB | ok guys. Thanks a lot for helping! I need to reset networking here to check if the server is fine. HAve a nice day/night/whatever. Cheers! |
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| 20:54.38 | kenjy | dante_2core: mmm |
| 20:54.39 | dante_2core | afk, call me |
| 20:54.39 | kenjy | ok |
| 20:54.56 | screamingbytes | kenjy: you can't grab the matching *.md5 file? |
| 20:55.10 | dante_2core | eddieBB, good luck, i'm off soon, now afk (clean my bed up before I go to sleep) afk |
| 20:55.17 | eddieBB | dante_2core: this seems to be too much work just to get passed step 2 in my guide. i can't imagine how long the rest will take so i think i'm just going to throw in the towel. but thanks for all your help. |
| 20:55.17 | dante_2core | afk, call me |
| 20:55.38 | dante_2core | eddieBB, do it for the moment, retry later - that's the way to go when you're a beginner |
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| 20:55.45 | kenjy | screamingbytes: what do you mean with grabing the matching *.md5 files? |
| 20:55.51 | eddieBB | dante_2core: okay. thanks again |
| 20:55.52 | dante_2core | afk, call me |
| 20:55.53 | dante_2core | eddieBB, you'll learn with time, just don't rush. |
| 20:56.02 | dante_2core | you're welcome, good luck, feel free to come back and ask again. |
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| 20:56.35 | BW^- | how is debian installed via SSH? |
| 20:56.42 | screamingbytes | kenjy: what file are you grabbing? |
| 20:56.44 | BW^- | we need to do this, the machine has no display! |
| 20:56.49 | undefined | guys, which distro is most efficient in especially in ram and cpu usage? I will be using my vps for a coulple of domains and gameserver |
| 20:56.52 | BW^- | i think it has a keybaord |
| 20:57.15 | kenjy | screamingbytes: any one, I can't do apt-get update http://rafb.net/p/ycj1N681.html |
| 20:57.19 | zinx | undefined: it depends entirely on which programs you use from the said distribution, not so much on the distribution itself |
| 20:57.33 | zinx | undefined: though Debian requires something like 64MB of ram for the package tools |
| 20:57.38 | zinx | undefined: or at least the installer. |
| 20:58.28 | undefined | zinx, people still stay that like centos has lowest ram usage with it's webserver apps and debian happens to crash more often, - is that true? |
| 20:58.45 | zinx | undefined: doubtful |
| 20:59.11 | kenjy | screamingbytes: any idea? |
| 20:59.29 | screamingbytes | kenjy: looking one sec |
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| 21:00.06 | steven_ | hi |
| 21:00.11 | n3kl | eddieBB: since you seem to know something about this, is x264 better than lavc? |
| 21:00.25 | steven_ | what options are there for an encrypted home partition ? |
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| 21:00.40 | n3kl | steven_: encfs, luks, truecrypt |
| 21:00.46 | amphi | n3kl: AFAIK, it gives better compression for a given res. and quality |
| 21:01.01 | steven_ | n3kl: does debian have a preffered method ?# |
| 21:01.09 | n3kl | amphi: you mean x264, right? |
| 21:01.14 | amphi | n3kl: at least with two or more passes |
| 21:01.16 | amphi | n3kl: yes |
| 21:01.16 | n3kl | steven_: don't think so |
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| 21:01.25 | eptalon | steven_: plus totally encyripting the thing. however note that encryption tends to be slow |
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| 21:01.35 | undefined | Does lxadmin require HyperVM or can be installed on its own? |
| 21:01.46 | eptalon | ?? |
| 21:01.54 | n3kl | steven_: I like luks for full partition encryption, and encfs for specific folder encryption, but you will find at least ten people in here that have another oppinion I am sure |
| 21:02.08 | kenjy | no help |
| 21:02.10 | kenjy | :( |
| 21:02.12 | amphi | steven_: you could also look at an encrypted loopback fs in a file for stuff that really merits it, perhaps |
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| 21:02.39 | steven_ | cool i just intend to encrypt my home partition and use another partition for large files that don't need to be safe |
| 21:02.44 | eddieBB | n3kl: i'm not familiar with lavc. but to my knowledge x264 is the best there is. i just use it to make 1.37GB encodes of DVDs and you can't tell the difference unless you're watching them on a 70 inch screen or something.. |
| 21:02.47 | screamingbytes | kenjy: i dunno brother, the file exists, the archive is fine, i tested it. There is no matching md5 file so i don't know why you got the error |
| 21:03.09 | steven_ | thanks for the info guys |
| 21:03.24 | kenjy | screamingbytes: so I need to reinstall my productions servers? |
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| 21:03.47 | cheef-daniel | hi |
| 21:03.47 | faffi | screamingbytes, the howtoforge tutorial chroots the entire ssh server, i want chroot setup on a per user basis |
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| 21:04.02 | philluminati | Guys, how do I solve this please: E: Unmet dependencies. |
| 21:04.14 | eddieBB | n3kl: my last encode.. Source: http://www.imagebam.com/image/e9e59911558842 Encode: http://www.imagebam.com/image/d5d1cf11558845 |
| 21:04.17 | philluminati | It stops me installing or uninstalling anything |
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| 21:04.54 | TMFwrc_CL | hi gays! |
| 21:04.55 | philluminati | Here's the full message: http://pastebin.com/m6a83947d |
| 21:05.17 | kenjy | Im going to reinstall my productions server just because apt don't work |
| 21:05.29 | TMFwrc_CL | van itt magyar vazze? |
| 21:05.30 | philluminati | oh hi TMFwrc_CL, you're just in time to help me. Why is this happening please? http://pastebin.com/m6a83947d |
| 21:05.34 | faffi | whats it doing kenjy |
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| 21:05.54 | kenjy | faffi: http://rafb.net/p/ycj1N681.html |
| 21:05.59 | kenjy | faffi: I can't do apt-get update |
| 21:06.04 | philluminati | (I figured if I asked people directly at least someone might help) |
| 21:06.19 | Agent_bob | anyone know what "HashKnownHosts yes" does in ssh_conf ? or where the documents are ? |
| 21:06.28 | faffi | kenjy, MD5Sum mismatch |
| 21:06.33 | screamingbytes | kenjy: dumb q, but you are running etch right? |
| 21:06.38 | screamingbytes | faffi: he know's |
| 21:06.39 | kenjy | faffi: so I need to reinstall? |
| 21:06.45 | dustybin | anybody here good with networking? |
| 21:06.48 | kenjy | yes screamingbytes Im running etch |
| 21:06.52 | cheef-daniel | I set up a chroot, and log in with 'chroot /path/to/chroot' as root, but how can I change the user now running in the chroot for testing some scripts with that user permissions? |
| 21:07.05 | jelly-home | cheef-daniel: su? |
| 21:07.08 | amphi | dustybin: what-working? |
| 21:07.12 | cheef-daniel | in the chroot? |
| 21:07.25 | jelly-home | cheef-daniel: su - username. yes. |
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| 21:07.42 | cheef-daniel | jelly-home: do I have to copy su inside the chroot? |
| 21:08.17 | dustybin | amphi: i have 2 NICs on my server, 1 NIC is for the HOST, the other NIC is for my vserver guest, i need to route all the hosts traffic and the vservers guests traffic in and out of there own special real hardware NIC |
| 21:08.24 | jelly-home | cheef-daniel: that would be nice if you want it to work, yes |
| 21:08.34 | screamingbytes | kenjy: i found where its grabbing the MD5 from |
| 21:08.41 | dustybin | amphi: does this look ok: http://paste.linux-noob.com/index.php?query=2703 |
| 21:08.50 | screamingbytes | kenjy: http://security.debian.org/dists/etch/updates/Release |
| 21:08.54 | amphi | dustybin: does it work? ;) |
| 21:09.00 | cheef-daniel | jelly-home: thank you I will test it |
| 21:09.21 | philluminati | I *know* someone reading is smart enough to help me please: http://pastebin.com/m6a83947d |
| 21:09.35 | dustybin | amphi: it works, traffic goes in and out of each NIC, but because vserver uses the same kernel as the host, i can still ping the host, i really dont want that to happen because i want to put the vserver guest on a DMZ using my firewall |
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| 21:10.34 | dustybin | amphi: i think maybe a simple iptables rule of some kind might stop that |
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| 21:11.19 | screamingbytes | Philluminati: your not trying to install anything |
| 21:11.28 | jelly-home | cheef-daniel: I kind of assumed you set up a full-debian-base-system chroot with debootstrap; if that was the case you'd already have /bin/su (part of login package) |
| 21:11.32 | screamingbytes | Philluminati: whats wrong? |
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| 21:11.54 | screamingbytes | Kenjy: did you find the MD5's? |
| 21:12.00 | philluminati | I get the exact same message when I do try to install something, like apt-get install git-core or something |
| 21:12.00 | faffi | cheef-daniel, how did you setup the jail |
| 21:12.02 | cheef-daniel | jelly-home: you are right with that |
| 21:12.06 | screamingbytes | faffi: i found 2 decent articles |
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| 21:12.12 | amphi | dustybin: presumably; I'm not clear exactly what it is you try to prevent |
| 21:12.13 | philluminati | thank you for looking. |
| 21:12.22 | faffi | screamingbytes, please link, ive been googling my head off looking for a decent guide |
| 21:12.29 | screamingbytes | faffi: http://www.howtoforge.com/chroot_ssh_sftp_debian_etch |
| 21:12.33 | Agent_bob | philluminati you'll have to either remove the broken packages or install the dependants |
| 21:12.39 | faffi | screamingbytes, they ssh the entire server, i dont want that |
| 21:12.44 | dustybin | amphi: i want my vserver guest to use its own NIC for ALL traffic and not be able to ping the host |
| 21:12.49 | ktwilight[m] | dustybin, iptables wuld work on host |
| 21:12.55 | screamingbytes | faffi: http://wiki.freaks-unidos.net/chrooted-debian-server |
| 21:12.56 | dustybin | ok |
| 21:12.58 | pickcoder | dustybin: what do you mean by "host" |
| 21:13.08 | dustybin | host as the server what runs vserver |
| 21:13.17 | pickcoder | you can ping the "host" |
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| 21:13.20 | pickcoder | you have to ping an IP |
| 21:13.22 | ktwilight[m] | dustybin, yea |
| 21:13.23 | pickcoder | what are you pinging |
| 21:13.27 | pickcoder | nic1? |
| 21:13.27 | philluminati | This is the original message when I do try to install something: http://pastebin.com/m46241b3e |
| 21:13.44 | philluminati | how do I remove the broken package please? |
| 21:13.48 | dustybin | here is a simple diagram, replace xen with vserver: http://empire.ispeeds.net/~subx/network2.png |
| 21:13.51 | Agent_bob | philluminati clue*four "blah depends" thus blah is the problem, manually removing it should fix the dependancy problems. |
| 21:14.20 | Agent_bob | philluminati dpkg -P blah maybe |
| 21:15.31 | philluminati | It lists hundreds of packages and tells me they are all dependant on it :-( |
| 21:15.47 | dustybin | if i enter my vserver guest and the network cable is pulled out, i dont want ANY communication with anything at al |
| 21:15.49 | Agent_bob | then try going the otyher way |
| 21:15.57 | Agent_bob | install what blah depends on |
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| 21:16.28 | Agent_bob | philluminati and obviously you have converted that etch to testing or something |
| 21:16.30 | screamingbytes | kenjy: both MD5's from that list match the files on the sec server |
| 21:17.03 | screamingbytes | kenjy: mayby ask abrotman, or jelly-home, or some uber dude, im lost because they match |
| 21:17.15 | philluminati | Agent_bob, You're right. I tried to upgrade to lenny so I could have firefox 3 etc... |
| 21:17.32 | philluminati | Now I'm trapped in limbo |
| 21:17.33 | Agent_bob | well there you go. finish your upgrade. |
| 21:17.54 | pickcoder | dustybin: can no you assign a device for vserver to use? |
| 21:19.13 | dustybin | pickcoder: you can, but vserver uses the same kernel as the host |
| 21:19.30 | jelly-home | screamingbytes: you seem to have installed packages from testing or unstable at some point in the past, then removed those sources. |
| 21:19.32 | dustybin | so that means there is a route to the hots ip |
| 21:19.35 | dustybin | hosts |
| 21:19.45 | jelly-home | oops |
| 21:19.52 | jelly-home | philluminati: you seem to have installed packages from testing or unstable at some point in the past, then removed those sources. |
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| 21:20.11 | jelly-home | screamingbytes: that's for needlessly highlighting me! |
| 21:20.13 | pickcoder | dustybin: not if it's on a different network |
| 21:20.19 | faffi | if i wanted to move from initd to xinitd would a simple apt-get install xinit break anything or would it do it all |
| 21:20.24 | philluminati | ok will try now |
| 21:20.27 | dustybin | hmmm |
| 21:20.38 | screamingbytes | jelly-home: lol |
| 21:20.39 | pickcoder | there will always be a default route |
| 21:21.00 | pickcoder | set the default route for a private network that requires nic1 |
| 21:21.01 | dustybin | public:/# ping 192.168.1.65 |
| 21:21.01 | dustybin | PING 192.168.1.65 (192.168.1.65) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 21:21.01 | dustybin | 64 bytes from 192.168.1.65: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.060 ms |
| 21:21.11 | screamingbytes | jelly-home: I love how you and abrotman take compliments as insults |
| 21:21.11 | dustybin | the host is 192.168.1.65 |
| 21:21.17 | dustybin | the vserver guest is 192.168.2.66 |
| 21:21.28 | dustybin | and public is vserver guest |
| 21:21.56 | Agent_bob | pickcoder not related to his situation, but; does there have to be a default route ? |
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| 21:22.07 | philluminati | What date do people "guess" debian 5 will be released? |
| 21:22.10 | pickcoder | dustybin: I dunno nothing about vserver, so I can't really offer a solution |
| 21:22.16 | pickcoder | s/nothing/anything |
| 21:22.27 | pickcoder | Agent_bob: no.. if you don't want network traffic |
| 21:22.32 | dustybin | aye ok, im sure a simple iptables rule on the host will sort it |
| 21:22.46 | pickcoder | dustybin: I've seen examples of ip binding using virtual interfaces |
| 21:22.51 | pickcoder | say 10.x.x.x network |
| 21:23.00 | pickcoder | with NAT |
| 21:23.13 | dustybin | ok |
| 21:23.16 | Agent_bob | pridge-utils |
| 21:23.18 | Agent_bob | b |
| 21:24.08 | jelly-home | philluminati: /msg dpkg lenny pool |
| 21:24.34 | jelly-home | in fact |
| 21:24.36 | philluminati | thnks |
| 21:24.40 | jelly-home | !lenny pool |
| 21:24.40 | dpkg | lenny pool is probably Come and bet on when Lenny will be released. Ask me about "listkeys lenny pool" to find all of the bets, and "lenny bet" to find out how to bet. |
| 21:24.48 | pickcoder | Agent_bob: no bridging doesn't need a default route but your applications need one if they want to return packets back to a remote device |
| 21:25.04 | PriitM | I know it's offtopic and retarded, but obey me: http://priitm.planet.ee/1/P8151183.JPG |
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| 21:25.19 | jelly-home | !lose PriitM |
| 21:25.19 | dpkg | PriitM: You Lose. |
| 21:25.33 | PriitM | ;; |
| 21:26.31 | Gnurdux | no, lenny bet is <reply> to add a bet to the lenny pool, /msg dpkg lenny pool 2 =~ s/!/! <nick>=yyyy-mm-dd/ and when lenny pool 2 is filled create lenny pool 3 and update this factoid. |
| 21:26.36 | Gnurdux | ~no, lenny bet is <reply> to add a bet to the lenny pool, /msg dpkg lenny pool 2 =~ s/!/! <nick>=yyyy-mm-dd/ and when lenny pool 2 is filled create lenny pool 3 and update this factoid. |
| 21:26.49 | Gnurdux | !no, lenny bet is <reply> to add a bet to the lenny pool, /msg dpkg lenny pool 2 =~ s/!/! <nick>=yyyy-mm-dd/ and when lenny pool 2 is filled create lenny pool 3 and update this factoid. |
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| 21:27.39 | jelly-home | !tell Gnurdux -about msg the bot |
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| 21:31.12 | Agent_bob | may i ask, without starting a war, why gnome is default ? |
| 21:31.39 | maligor | because. |
| 21:31.43 | mmlj4 | because the people that get to decide that are lame |
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| 21:33.12 | pierre_ | hi |
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| 21:33.47 | dustybin | i think im getting somewhere |
| 21:33.49 | dustybin | "And as I'm sure you vserver experts know, inter-vserver communications occur over the loopback interface. Once I move my rule(s) to disable communication between vserver clients above the loopback rule everything worked as expected." |
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| 21:33.59 | jester45 | Agent_bob, i would say because its the best for noobs |
| 21:34.11 | SeicherlBoB | n3kl: can anybody tell me for gods sake, why in this world a kernel update affects the order of ethernet devices??? why is my "old" eth0 now eth1 and vice versa?? |
| 21:34.38 | jester45 | SeicherlBoB, because the kernel does device detection |
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| 21:35.04 | SeicherlBoB | jester45: so they changed the algorithm or what ever decisions that were made? |
| 21:35.18 | pierre_ | how to get in a shell script the ID of a background process launched in the same script please ? |
| 21:35.59 | SeicherlBoB | jester45: can i overrule that somehow or shall i just swap the cables (and the lables) |
| 21:36.04 | maligor | actually the udev persistence rules should keep the ethernet devices consistent |
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| 21:36.14 | martin_ | chur boy's |
| 21:36.15 | maligor | per mac address |
| 21:36.18 | Agent_bob | SeicherlBoB $$ |
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| 21:36.33 | curtmack | god damn it |
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| 21:36.43 | SeicherlBoB | Agent_bob: ?? |
| 21:36.58 | SeicherlBoB | maligor: how would i do that? |
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| 21:37.08 | curtmack | I'm transferring files from my old drive to my new drive |
| 21:37.08 | maligor | SeicherlBoB, it should be automagical |
| 21:37.13 | SexyKen | Hey guys - is there a package including net-snmp-config in etch? |
| 21:37.14 | curtmack | and the system crashes |
| 21:37.18 | curtmack | completely freezes up |
| 21:37.25 | maligor | SeicherlBoB, stored in /etc/udev/rules.d/ |
| 21:37.28 | unixSnob | anyone install google earth successfully? what a pain in the ass this is. google really botched it. After hacking their script to find the closed binary file, it still has a number of failures |
| 21:37.31 | curtmack | however, I still hear hard drive activity going on |
| 21:37.40 | SeicherlBoB | maligor: well obviously not ;) took me 1/2 hour of troubleshooting to figure that out |
| 21:37.46 | curtmack | so I assume it's still writing, and I leave it to its work |
| 21:37.57 | pierre_ | anybody can help me please ? |
| 21:38.03 | maligor | SeicherlBoB, well, I've wasted 1/2 hour once troubleshooting why I got eth2 instead of eth0 ;) |
| 21:38.17 | maligor | dunno why it'd fail to work |
| 21:38.31 | curtmack | hmm, never mind |
| 21:38.43 | curtmack | the mount finished JUST AS I was about to hit enter on the next sentence |
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| 21:38.47 | curtmack | okay, we're good |
| 21:38.48 | curtmack | in theory |
| 21:39.04 | SeicherlBoB | maligor: lol. well, there's a couple of rules in there. |
| 21:39.19 | SeicherlBoB | got it |
| 21:39.22 | unixSnob | dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: format of `NEEDED ./libIGCore.so' not recognized |
| 21:39.25 | maligor | 70-persistent-net.rules is what I mean |
| 21:39.45 | SeicherlBoB | maligor: does that need a complete reboot? |
| 21:40.03 | maligor | dunno, not too familiar with the ethernet stuff to tell the truth |
| 21:40.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | curtmack, is udma on for both disks (if that applies) |
| 21:40.23 | SeicherlBoB | maligor: ok. and i just change the "NAME=" stuff? |
| 21:40.42 | maligor | SeicherlBoB, possibly, possibly |
| 21:41.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | curtmack, you get heavy freezes when everything goes through the CPU - specially if one of the disks has faults... |
| 21:41.08 | Agent_bob | pierre_ i'm sure there's a shell call that will answer that, i just haven't used it you could ask in #bash if noone in here naswers |
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| 21:41.13 | SeicherlBoB | hmm... does anyone know how to do that? *bestboyintheworldssmile* |
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| 21:41.56 | curtmack | CutMeOwnThroat: No, I think the freeze was unrelated to the file transfer |
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| 21:46.21 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | pardon me for asking such a noobish question, but i am new to Debian. Can anybody tell me, how to update the kernel using apt? I don't want to go through compilation as the stock kernel seems fine. |
| 21:46.45 | dmoerner | sh4d3sl4y3r_: aptitude search ~nlinux-image- |
| 21:46.49 | dmoerner | shows you the available kernels |
| 21:46.50 | Agent_bob | if it's fine why upgrade it ? |
| 21:47.10 | mmlj4 | Agent_bob: the real answer is that KDE right now isn't production-ready, and few distros if any are using KDE 4.x yet |
| 21:47.12 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | well the etch kernel i have is old. 2.6.18 , thats why |
| 21:47.28 | mmlj4 | Agent_bob: regardless of what debian had before KDE 4.x came out... |
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| 21:48.36 | Agent_bob | mmlj4 and kde3 is too old to have as a default desktop on etch as of it's release date ? |
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| 21:49.03 | dmoerner | dpkg: tell sh4d3sl4y3r_ -about etchnhalf |
| 21:49.05 | pierre_ | Agent_bob: ok :-) |
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| 21:50.14 | Agent_bob | was not implying that kde should/could/would have been the only alternative. |
| 21:50.14 | mmlj4 | etch came out before KDE 4, AFAIK |
| 21:50.20 | dmoerner | long before |
| 21:50.31 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | ya |
| 21:50.35 | mmlj4 | like i said, I don't know what debian had as default before |
| 21:50.42 | Agent_bob | long in nano-seconds not long in months |
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| 21:50.49 | dmoerner | etch has 3.5.5a |
| 21:50.50 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | kde 4 came this year beginning |
| 21:51.00 | pierre_ | Agent_bob: thanks |
| 21:51.05 | dmoerner | sarge had 3.3.2 |
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| 21:51.31 | Agent_bob | pierre_ did you get an answer there ? |
| 21:51.58 | mmlj4 | anyhow, apt-get install $some-random-KDE-app gets you down the road |
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| 21:52.09 | Mundus | Is there any way to use aptitude without losing all of the installed packages on my system? Whenever I try to use aptitude to install stuff it wants to automaticly uninstall over a gigabytes worth of installed applications |
| 21:52.18 | pierre_ | yes !$ Agent_bob |
| 21:52.27 | mmlj4 | aptitude++ # way to go!!!! |
| 21:52.39 | Agent_bob | pierre_ k. glad to hear it. welcome. |
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| 21:52.41 | zinx | Mundus: hit + on the ones you want |
| 21:52.49 | dmoerner | actually hit : on the ones you want |
| 21:52.59 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | i might convert my etch to sid |
| 21:53.06 | mmlj4 | does aptitude use /etc/apt/sources.list? |
| 21:53.09 | dmoerner | sh4d3sl4y3r_: impossible. |
| 21:53.12 | dmoerner | mmlj4: yes |
| 21:53.20 | mmlj4 | then why would it do that? |
| 21:53.21 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | impossible?? |
| 21:53.38 | dmoerner | sh4d3sl4y3r_: you cannot just convert etch to sid. if you want to upgrade do etch -> lenny lenny -> sid |
| 21:53.49 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | oh |
| 21:53.51 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | thanks |
| 21:53.56 | Mundus | zinx: What do you mean? |
| 21:54.24 | dmoerner | Mundus: when you do aptitude remove XXX, when it gives you the list of what to remove, hit :package to keep the package |
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| 21:55.22 | zinx | Mundus: i mean, if it wants to remove something, tell it not to |
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| 21:55.32 | zinx | dmoerner: I was assuming GUI use :x |
| 21:56.52 | Mundus | But if I don't let it remove everything it doesn't let me install anything |
| 21:56.55 | gentlyninja | how can i make a dist-upgrade with deselecting installation of some packages? |
| 21:57.00 | gentlyninja | with aptitude |
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| 21:57.33 | dmoerner | gentlyninja: aptitude dist-upgrade, then when it gives the list of packages to upgrade type :package to keep it at its current version. hit ? for more options |
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| 21:57.45 | Mundus | Example: If I type aptitude install less it tells me it want to remove almost everything on my system |
| 21:57.52 | seicherl | maligor: ok. it's that easy. just change the "name=" and reboot ;) |
| 21:58.00 | dmoerner | Mundus: i think you have a bigger problem right now. |
| 21:58.11 | dmoerner | in the meantime you can hit aptitude keep-all to stop that from happening |
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| 21:59.34 | gentlyninja | dmoerner, i get always the "do you wanna continue" question with only valid answers Y or N |
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| 21:59.53 | Mundus | dmoerner: What's the bigger problem? |
| 21:59.57 | gentlyninja | typing package doesnt do anything |
| 22:00.31 | MaximusBrood | I just changed a user's shell to rssh to only allow scp transfers. Now I've set the umask in /etc/rssh.conf to 000, but any transferred file has a mode of 644 instead of the expected 666. Is this a known problem? And how can I fix it? |
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| 22:01.42 | Ergo^ | hello |
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| 22:02.31 | Agent_bob | gentlyninja may i venture a guess that 'package' in that context might mean the package name. |
| 22:02.31 | Ergo^ | im debian lenny, and im having big trouble installing postgresql... apt downoads the files , says they are installed ok , but then again i have no /etc/pstgresql at all |
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| 22:02.54 | Ergo^ | and i cant do /etc/init.d/postgresql* start |
| 22:02.57 | Ergo^ | nothing shows up |
| 22:03.37 | dmoerner | dpkg: tell Ergo^ -about confmiss |
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| 22:04.23 | LimCore | hi. I have /dev/sda and /boot/ is on /dev/sda1 I want to (re)install GRUB's bootloader into MBR of /dev/sda. How to? I do not need to erase current /boot partition |
| 22:05.06 | dmoerner | LimCore: run "grub" then hit: root (hd0,0) <return> setup (hd0) <return> quit <return> |
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| 22:06.39 | LimCore | cool |
| 22:06.41 | LimCore | I hope it works =) |
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| 22:07.14 | Ergo^ | dmoerner: thanks |
| 22:07.14 | Agent_bob | install-grub /dev/sda should also work assuming sda1 is mounted on /boot |
| 22:07.18 | EmleyMoor | I am reworking my horde setup but it has gone wrong on enabling mnemo. |
| 22:07.26 | EmleyMoor | Instead of the left menu, I now get: |
| 22:07.31 | EmleyMoor | Warning: require_once(/etc/horde/mnemo2/../lib/Mnemo.php) [function.require.once]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /etc/horde/mnemo2/prefs.php on line 9 |
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| 22:08.03 | TimothyA | how do I check which users exist? |
| 22:08.16 | EmleyMoor | Why would that happen? |
| 22:08.20 | Agent_bob | TimothyA cat /etc/passwd |
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| 22:09.11 | EmleyMoor | There is no /etc/horde/lib ... that is obviously amiss |
| 22:09.15 | TimothyA | wonders why proftpd is running...while it's not installed |
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| 22:10.09 | EmleyMoor | I will press on with the rest and assuming no other problems may well have to report this as a bug |
| 22:10.21 | Agent_bob | TimothyA i might venture a guess, if you removed the package but didn't kill the process the files don't have to be there to keep running, only to start running |
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| 22:11.27 | TimothyA | whoops, wrong server :X |
| 22:12.16 | TimothyA | ponders why his logs are full of failed login attempts.. |
| 22:12.31 | Agent_bob | o.O |
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| 22:14.09 | zipper | I'm current running a server with apache but now i need to use an apache2 module (libapache2-mod-musicindex) - How do i properly switch from apache to apache2? Any guides for doing so without breaking everything? |
| 22:14.13 | zipper | currently |
| 22:15.32 | Ergo^ | dmoerner: i ended up with empty /etc/postgresql dir, and it still doesnt start because of that |
| 22:15.43 | Ergo^ | apt didnt reconstruct the configuration |
| 22:16.06 | Ergo^ | is there anything else i can try to recreate postgresql completly ? |
| 22:16.48 | dmoerner | Ergo^: are you sure you are looking the right directory? according to apt-file NO debian package contains /etc/postgresql |
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| 22:17.21 | Soskel | hi |
| 22:17.30 | Ergo^ | dmoerner: urm... shouldnt there be all server configuration ? |
| 22:17.39 | Soskel | I ran apt-get install apache2, and it didn't give me a /etc/apache2/httpd.conf |
| 22:17.42 | Soskel | where can I get one? |
| 22:17.49 | Ergo^ | it always was at least |
| 22:18.09 | dmoerner | Ergo^: i don't use postgresql. i'm just reporting what apt says. the init.d script is in postgresql-8.3 |
| 22:18.20 | Ergo^ | yeah |
| 22:18.23 | Ergo^ | thats there |
| 22:18.26 | Soskel | hello |
| 22:18.27 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | dmoernet, cant alien convert a source rpm to deb? |
| 22:18.34 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | *dmoerner |
| 22:18.39 | dmoerner | sh4d3sl4y3r_: to extract a source rpm use cpio |
| 22:18.50 | Ergo^ | but there is no configuration at all, and it should be in /etc/postgresql/ , at least always was |
| 22:19.08 | Ergo^ | i tried using : apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install postgresql |
| 22:19.37 | dmoerner | sh4d3sl4y3r_: rpm2cpio file.rpm | cpio -idmv |
| 22:19.52 | cheef-daniel | what do I have to change in this shell-script so the variable gets replaced? /usr/bin/curl -k -d '$log' |
| 22:19.56 | Ergo^ | also that dir is present on my home ubuntu box :/ |
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| 22:20.11 | fiendishfish | Hello. |
| 22:20.12 | dmoerner | cheef-daniel: use double quotes |
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| 22:20.43 | Agent_bob | cheef-daniel single quotes protect text from expansion |
| 22:20.47 | fiendishfish | I've got a question regarding Debia, how come even after I've ran 'apt-get update' and 'apt-get upgrade' VLC is still version 0.8.6a when there are more recent versions? |
| 22:20.58 | Ergo^ | dmoerner: could it be possible that the package is b0rken ( it would be really strange ) |
| 22:21.03 | dmoerner | Ergo^: no. |
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| 22:21.26 | dmoerner | fiendishfish: what is the output of apt-cache policy vlc? |
| 22:21.52 | cheef-daniel | thanks both you, it helped |
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| 22:22.13 | fiendishfish | dmoerner, http://rafb.net/p/oHKtVd47.html |
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| 22:22.22 | Ergo^ | dmoerner: is there any other command i can try to reinstall the thing ? |
| 22:22.27 | n08l3J | hello debain people |
| 22:22.33 | n08l3J | I have one quick question |
| 22:22.40 | dmoerner | Ergo^: there is no /etc/postgresql directory in debian packages. apt-file does not lie |
| 22:22.48 | n08l3J | is the default installation of debian contains any gui ? |
| 22:22.49 | dmoerner | fiendishfish: you are running etch. there is no newer vlc in the repos |
| 22:23.01 | dmoerner | n08l3J: if you install "Standard" and "Desktop" tasks, ys |
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| 22:23.03 | dmoerner | s/ys/yes |
| 22:23.06 | fiendishfish | dmoerner, How come the repos don't contain up to date versions of popular programs? |
| 22:23.10 | Agent_bob | n08l3J gnome |
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| 22:23.15 | dmoerner | !tell fiendishfish -about stable |
| 22:23.16 | n08l3J | which gui does it ship with by default ? |
| 22:23.27 | dmoerner | n08l3J: what is "gui"? do you mean desktop environment? |
| 22:23.31 | n08l3J | yes |
| 22:23.43 | n08l3J | i mean desktop environment |
| 22:23.43 | fiendishfish | dmoerner, So etch stable is the latest version? |
| 22:23.46 | dmoerner | n08l3J: gnome by default, but kde and xfce also have their own tasks/installation sets |
| 22:23.54 | n08l3J | thanks everyone |
| 22:23.58 | Agent_bob | what's a desktop environment ? |
| 22:24.03 | dmoerner | fiendishfish: the latest "stable" is etch. oldstable is sarge. lenny is testing and will be stable in a few months ideally |
| 22:24.05 | Ergo^ | dmoerner: ok, so im not sure i get it, there always was.... and its still on my ubuntu... also the aptitude command that tried to recreate configuration created the dir for me |
| 22:24.27 | fiendishfish | dmoerner, I'm confused, doesn't that defeat the point of etch if you can't even get up-to-date packages through apt-get? |
| 22:24.48 | dmoerner | fiendishfish: ummmm. no. it is stable. stable does not get the most up-to-date packages, but only security upgrades |
| 22:25.05 | fiendishfish | So you can change the latest version of etch to NOT stable? |
| 22:25.07 | Agent_bob | fiendishfish latest version is not always stable. etch is supposed to be stable |
| 22:25.26 | dmoerner | fiendishfish: did you read the factoid dpkg sent you? |
| 22:25.26 | dcsimon | is there a way to search and remove packages installed from a specific repo? |
| 22:25.33 | fiendishfish | Yep dmoerner |
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| 22:26.01 | fiendishfish | dmoerner, presuming you wanted updates on all software, how would you go about that? Install an older version of etch o.O? |
| 22:26.12 | dmoerner | dcsimon: it's sort of difficult. if you remove the repo from /etc/apt/sources.list, and then run aptitude search ~o |
| 22:26.15 | RageOfThou | Nitro sama |
| 22:26.24 | dmoerner | fiendishfish: if you want updates then run testing. |
| 22:26.37 | fiendishfish | dmoerner, How do I run 'testing'? |
| 22:26.39 | dmoerner | you can't install "an older version of etch" |
| 22:27.04 | dmoerner | dpkg: tell fiendishfish -about testing |
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| 22:27.15 | fiendishfish | Sorry for being such an idiot btw dmoerner |
| 22:27.28 | dmoerner | fiendishfish: no problem |
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| 22:27.46 | fiendishfish | So say I went back to lenny, what disadvantages would there be? |
| 22:27.55 | Ergo^ | dmoerner: im asing on #postgresql, but im sure as hell that /etc/postgresql HAS to be there... |
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| 22:27.59 | dmoerner | fiendishfish: what do you mean "back to lenny?" |
| 22:28.14 | fiendishfish | Say I decided to use lenny opposed to etch, as I want updates on all packages. |
| 22:28.55 | dmoerner | well lenny is already frozen and will be stable soon, so if you want updates you would want to point to "testing" in /etc/apt/sources.list instead of etch or lenny |
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| 22:29.49 | zipper | Hmm, can anyone tell me why i dont got 'httpd' on debian stable with 'apache2' installed? |
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| 22:30.07 | fiendishfish | dmoerner, so I can use etch and still have access to testing packages? |
| 22:30.20 | dmoerner | fiendishfish: no. you shouldn't mix testing and stable. |
| 22:30.45 | fiendishfish | But when Lenny becomes stable, how will people get full package updates? |
| 22:31.02 | dmoerner | if they wanted package updates over rock-solid stability, they wouldn't be using stable |
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| 22:31.10 | dmoerner | i think stable is for a different kind of user than you |
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| 22:31.28 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | he wants bleeding etch packages i guess |
| 22:31.39 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | *edge |
| 22:31.41 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | damn |
| 22:31.44 | dmoerner | so punny |
| 22:32.11 | Agent_bob | phuknee |
| 22:32.32 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | well fiend you can use Sidux if you want bleeding edge packages updated all the time |
| 22:32.39 | fiendishfish | Oh so all the packages will get released into stable eventually then dmoerner. |
| 22:32.44 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | it is debian sid |
| 22:32.45 | dmoerner | sh4d3sl4y3r_: i would not recommend sidux in this channel haha |
| 22:32.59 | fiendishfish | sh4d3sl4y3r_, I don't, I just didn't really understand it all. |
| 22:33.12 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | lol |
| 22:33.13 | dmoerner | fiendishfish: not really. the way it works is that packages go into unstable, then after 2 weeks of no bugs go into testing. during this time stable just gets security updates |
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| 22:33.34 | fiendishfish | And then after how long in testing what happens? |
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| 22:33.45 | dmoerner | when a new stable comes out, testing stops getting packages from unstable and they stabilize the packages within it, and then that "snapshot" could be seen as becoming the next stable |
| 22:34.10 | dmoerner | etch came out in april 07 lenny is slated for sept 08 but will probably be late |
| 22:34.47 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | grabbing lenny will be hard for me, slow internet connection :( |
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| 22:35.04 | fiendishfish | dmoerner, Ah, so testing packages generally take quite a long time to be released into stable |
| 22:35.25 | fiendishfish | Or they won't ever come out for etch? just for the new stable? |
| 22:35.42 | dmoerner | fiendishfish: you've got it |
| 22:35.44 | Agent_bob | some people still use dialup |
| 22:35.49 | fiendishfish | The latter dmoerner? |
| 22:35.56 | dmoerner | the latter |
| 22:36.08 | fiendishfish | Hmm, it's quite confusing to get your head around. |
| 22:36.08 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | << uses a 384K broadband |
| 22:36.25 | dmoerner | that's not that slow |
| 22:36.37 | fiendishfish | :o It is |
| 22:36.38 | Agent_bob | then there are the rest of us that have the super slow camel carivan data transfer... three weeks to update email... |
| 22:36.41 | Ergo^ | dmoerner: pg guys confirmed that i should have something like /etc/postgresq/8.3 |
| 22:36.54 | Ergo^ | so im completly lost now |
| 22:37.10 | dmoerner | Ergo^: this sounds like a question for a mailing list or debian-devel |
| 22:38.07 | fiendishfish | I was under the delusion that etch was an old version of Debian, but sid is the older version. |
| 22:38.14 | fiendishfish | and Etch will be the next unstable? |
| 22:38.22 | fiendishfish | and Sid will be non-existent? |
| 22:38.23 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | :S omg |
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| 22:38.29 | dmoerner | fiendishfish: sid is unstable. etch is stable |
| 22:38.31 | dmoerner | sarge is oldstable |
| 22:38.33 | fiendishfish | I meant lenny |
| 22:38.37 | Zharf | sid is always unstable |
| 22:38.39 | fiendishfish | replace etch with lenny |
| 22:38.41 | fiendishfish | on the first line |
| 22:38.52 | Soskel | why does debians apache package not come with the conf file? |
| 22:38.59 | fiendishfish | dmoerner, So etch will be oldstable and lenny will be stable eventually. |
| 22:39.10 | dmoerner | fiendishfish: yes. and there will be something new to take over testing |
| 22:39.17 | Ergo^ | Soskel: it comes witg conf file |
| 22:39.23 | Soskel | nope |
| 22:39.24 | fiendishfish | I see. |
| 22:39.33 | Soskel | I just installed it 3 times and there is no conf file |
| 22:39.39 | fiendishfish | Won't sarge disappear then? |
| 22:39.45 | dmoerner | fiendishfish: yes. |
| 22:39.49 | fiendishfish | Or will become unstable also |
| 22:39.49 | fiendishfish | Ah. |
| 22:39.56 | Ergo^ | erm... dmoerner, ok another person claims that there is no conf file, for apache that time ? |
| 22:39.57 | dmoerner | it won't become "unstable" they don't recycle names |
| 22:40.00 | Soskel | heelloo? |
| 22:40.09 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | dmoerner, as i don't have that high speed connection, will it be fine when lenny comes out, i just download the 600MB 1st CD iso, and download the necessary packages onling using apt?? |
| 22:40.19 | Ergo^ | this really sounds... strange |
| 22:40.20 | dmoerner | Ergo^: unrelated |
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| 22:40.42 | fiendishfish | I won't have to reinstall Linux to change versions right? |
| 22:40.50 | Ergo^ | well, postgres comes with config files too ;-) |
| 22:40.52 | dmoerner | sh4d3sl4y3r_: or you could just use a netinst |
| 22:41.06 | dmoerner | fiendishfish: you can only go older to newer. to downgrade requires a reinstall |
| 22:41.11 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | lol |
| 22:41.12 | fiendishfish | Ah. |
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| 22:42.02 | fiendishfish | So my conclusion is that whenever using a stable version of a distribution you will never get full software updates, only when using a testing verison. |
| 22:42.21 | fiendishfish | But when Lenny comes out we will get all the updates at first. |
| 22:42.32 | dmoerner | fiendishfish: it depends on the distribution. that is the way debian manages stable. |
| 22:43.32 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | lol, stable of some distributions is parallel to debian testing |
| 22:43.43 | fiendishfish | o.O |
| 22:43.55 | dmoerner | i run a mix of sid and experimental myself and have no breakage problems. it just depends on your expectations and needs and expertise |
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| 22:44.21 | weed37 | hey guys need some help hacking the ps3 any good devs here |
| 22:44.28 | Ergo^ | heh, there is only one thing that makes me use ubuntu at home over debian... .driver issues, wifi and stuff, way easier on buntu :/ |
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| 22:44.40 | fiendishfish | What disadvantages are there to running stable over testing and vice-versa? |
| 22:44.41 | dmoerner | Ergo^: really? I find that hard to believe |
| 22:44.58 | Ergo^ | dmoerner: i guess it has more drivers out of the box |
| 22:44.59 | fiendishfish | dmoerner, It usually works out of the box on Ubuntu, suprisingly. |
| 22:45.00 | dmoerner | fiendishfish: stable has the advantage of being reliable. testing is a bit more unstable but supports newer hardware |
| 22:45.00 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | aah not u****u again |
| 22:45.30 | fiendishfish | How is reliability measured :/ |
| 22:45.39 | Ergo^ | dmoerner: i used testing like 2 months ago |
| 22:45.47 | dmoerner | fiendishfish: it depends on your needs |
| 22:46.00 | fiendishfish | What did you mean by reliability? |
| 22:46.03 | Ergo^ | but for example i cant make netinstall on my wife's pc, cause it doesnt handle ralink's wifi chipsets |
| 22:46.41 | dmoerner | yes that is an issue with firmware licensing. easily solved by bootstrapping from a livecd |
| 22:47.02 | dmoerner | fiendishfish: some people believe that a server should use stable software, not the latest stuff. others believe the opposite |
| 22:47.02 | weed37 | hey guys need some help hacking the ps3 any good devs here |
| 22:47.09 | Ergo^ | yeah, but its easly solved by someone with better skills than me |
| 22:47.14 | fiendishfish | weed37, gtfo. |
| 22:47.43 | weed37 | this is a linux chat room is it not |
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| 22:47.58 | fiendishfish | A debian channel. |
| 22:48.00 | Samuel2 | What does the rc.local service do? |
| 22:48.06 | Soskel | i need help, i am trying to install debian, but when I run rm- rf, it doesn't do anything: http://tinypic.com/usermedia.php?uo=UeXw7CzzhHUfY%2Bls8EjxHg%3D%3D |
| 22:48.13 | weed37 | ok friendfish sry |
| 22:48.14 | Soskel | i mean apache |
| 22:48.18 | Soskel | i am trying to install apache |
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| 22:49.12 | fiendishfish | weed37, Did you mean running Debian on it? |
| 22:49.18 | fiendishfish | and I don't know if that's in-the-law or what. |
| 22:49.43 | weed37 | yes m8 running debain |
| 22:50.03 | weed37 | we need a kernal that will let us use the full hypervislor |
| 22:50.11 | amphi | !debain |
| 22:50.11 | dpkg | Debian! D-E-B-I-A-N! The founder of Debian was not named "Ain". Sheesh! |
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| 22:50.37 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | debra+ iian |
| 22:50.42 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | *ian |
| 22:50.51 | EmleyMoor | Still no luck with mnemo2... any suggestions before I reportbug? |
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| 22:51.15 | joren | hey, I'm wondering if anyone can give me some advice: I'm trying to figure out how to install an older version of a package, but I'm not really seeing anything on google about it |
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| 22:51.55 | joren | it's been a while since I've used debian so I'm a bit clueless these days |
| 22:51.58 | streuner | joren: dpkg -i <package> |
| 22:52.12 | streuner | read man apt-get and man dpkg |
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| 22:52.35 | joren | and just find the right .deb file somewhere? |
| 22:52.36 | Soskel | does anyone know how to get rm -rf to work |
| 22:52.47 | monobug | how is alsa recognized in /dev/ - - -? |
| 22:52.56 | EmleyMoor | Why do you want an older version particularly? |
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| 22:53.32 | joren | it's just what we're using in production at the moment |
| 22:53.46 | SJobs | anyone very good with linux kernal |
| 22:53.51 | weed37 | so u guys got any idea |
| 22:54.16 | joren | but yes, I'm sorry, I should have man'd -_- |
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| 22:56.38 | weed37 | sh4d3sl4y3r_, pm m8 |
| 22:56.51 | blubberdiblub | monobug, alsa stuff is in the /dev/snd/ directory |
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| 22:57.30 | monobug | blubberdiblub, thanks |
| 22:58.22 | blubberdiblub | monobug, also have a look at the /proc/asound/ directory tree, if your intention is to get info about devices etc. |
| 22:59.07 | monobug | it was to put /dev/"alsa" under some sound preferences in a program. /dev/dsp does not exist obviousley |
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| 22:59.39 | Nazcafan | hi |
| 22:59.40 | blubberdiblub | monobug, it does, when you modprobe the alsa oss compatibility modules |
| 22:59.53 | monobug | blubberdiblub, ok. how? |
| 23:00.11 | Nazcafan | how do I program a power off of my computer in 1h30? |
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| 23:00.29 | monobug | i mean, what module is it? |
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| 23:00.37 | blubberdiblub | monobug, try "modprobe snd-pcm-oss" |
| 23:00.38 | Orbixx | Nazcafan: I guess you could try crontab. |
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| 23:01.35 | Tramp | Nazcafan: man shutdown |
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| 23:01.58 | Nazcafan | Tramp: thanks |
| 23:01.58 | monobug | blubberdiblub, thank you |
| 23:02.13 | blubberdiblub | np |
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| 23:03.40 | MaximusBrood | I just changed a user's shell to rssh to only allow scp transfers. Now I've set the umask in /etc/rssh.conf to 000, but any transferred file has a mode of 644 instead of the expected 666. Is this a known problem? And how can I fix it? |
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| 23:05.55 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | bye all |
| 23:06.14 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | thanks for your help dmoerner |
| 23:06.20 | weed37 | bye m8 thanks |
| 23:06.25 | dmoerner | sh4d3sl4y3r_: no problem |
| 23:06.28 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | no problem, bbye |
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| 23:08.29 | dondelelcaro | MaximusBrood: you may have misset the umask, or you're using scp -p or similar. [And frankly, a umask of 0000 is insane.] |
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| 23:10.20 | allos_nerelin | http://pastebin.com/d7764e18a |
| 23:10.27 | allos_nerelin | perl and opensll problem |
| 23:11.02 | zipper | I'm trying to setup libapache2-mod-musicindex (using the guide found here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34359). It "works" but one thing is wierd. Not only am i missing all the rss files im also missing all the images. Actually im missing everything, had to create the 'musicindex' dir manually and create a dummy rss file for it to even run. What am i missing? |
| 23:11.02 | dmoerner | allos_nerelin: probably just a bad mirror sink apt-get update, try again, and wait it out |
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| 23:11.45 | MaximusBrood | dondelelcaro: Just wanted to emphasize the problem. In reality I'm using a umask of 002. Thanks, it's probably the transfer that's setting the mode afterwards then. |
| 23:11.55 | dmoerner | allos_nerelin: are you running m68k? |
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| 23:12.38 | dmoerner | s/sink/sync/ in my post above |
| 23:13.02 | zipper | (and before you slaughter me for using an ubuntu guide, i am in fact running debian) |
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| 23:13.28 | allos_nerelin | dmoerner amd |
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| 23:13.46 | dmoerner | allos_nerelin: latest perl in etch is 5.8.8-7etch3 |
| 23:13.58 | dmoerner | just aptitude update and wait it out |
| 23:13.58 | TiMiDo | hey i have a question how come my ssh does not work |
| 23:14.03 | TiMiDo | i try ssh localhost and it does nto work |
| 23:14.05 | TiMiDo | *not |
| 23:14.14 | TiMiDo | ssh: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection timed out |
| 23:14.21 | dmoerner | TiMiDo: is sshd running...? |
| 23:14.30 | dmoerner | do you have a firewall on? |
| 23:14.40 | TiMiDo | dmoerner, how do you run ssh? |
| 23:14.50 | dmoerner | is /etc/hosts.deny and /etc/hosts.allow being sufficiently permissive? |
| 23:14.56 | dmoerner | /etc/init.d/sshd restart |
| 23:15.16 | blubberdiblub | does localhost resolve to 127.0.0.1? |
| 23:15.18 | TiMiDo | sudo: /etc/init.d/sshd: command not found |
| 23:15.30 | dmoerner | TiMiDo: you don't have sshd installed so you can't ssh into your own computer |
| 23:15.32 | DJ-Pyro_ | aptitude install ssh |
| 23:15.43 | dmoerner | openssh-server is the package you need |
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| 23:15.46 | TiMiDo | ssh is already the newest version. |
| 23:16.13 | AfterRain | Hello |
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| 23:16.49 | TiMiDo | openssh-server is already the newest version. |
| 23:17.00 | blubberdiblub | /etc/init.d/ssh restart |
| 23:17.13 | dmoerner | yeah it's ssh restart not sshd restart sorry typo |
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| 23:17.24 | TiMiDo | Restarting OpenBSD Secure Shell server: sshd. |
| 23:18.00 | AfterRain | I installed debian lenny beta 2 and then I apt-get xfce4. In xfce I change the icons theme an then xfce crashed. Now every time I launch xfce I got that : http://bassspleen.free.fr/IMG_2679.JPG (we can see a pannel and the splash screen, in black, that's all) |
| 23:18.12 | AfterRain | I have the same problem if I change the icons theme in gnome :/ |
| 23:18.14 | TiMiDo | it does not work at all |
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| 23:18.53 | texasone | question: I am installing debian lenny right now, from base with only a wm, and i don't know whether to use blackbox, fluxbox, Wmaker, or icewm. does anyone know where I can find some good benchmarks with these wm's under debian?? |
| 23:19.01 | TiMiDo | how do i open up a port with iptables? |
| 23:19.05 | abrotman | texasone: benchmarks? |
| 23:19.07 | abrotman | !iptables |
| 23:19.07 | dpkg | well, iptables is the user-space process used to administer iptables kernel parts on top of netfilter, or ask me about <netfilter docs>, or at http://netfilter.org/ or http://lartc.org/.(check it out because iptables (2.4.x) has some security holes) See also: <masq>, or try #iptables (irc.freenode.net) for help, or for a proper debian-way of setting up iptables, please read http://www.howtoforge.com/node/450 |
| 23:19.14 | abrotman | texasone: just try them and see which you like? |
| 23:19.32 | AfterRain | how can I erase EVERY datas about xfce ?! |
| 23:19.53 | AfterRain | I tried an apt-get autoremove --purge but nothing changes |
| 23:20.04 | dmoerner | AfterRain: ls -a your home directory and look for the location of the xfce config files. these will not be erased by --purge |
| 23:20.12 | dmoerner | probable .xfce4 or .gconf2/something or .config/something |
| 23:20.34 | AfterRain | I looked but found nothing |
| 23:20.48 | AfterRain | oh gconf2 ... I'm going to look after this |
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| 23:21.59 | TiMiDo | ssh: connect to host 74.186.118.122 port 22: Connection timed out |
| 23:22.25 | drass9201 | if i upgrade my system from testing to unstable right after a net install, no added programs, what are the chances i will get a sucessful upgrade without kernel problems or anything else breaking? |
| 23:22.39 | dmoerner | drass9201: 99.9% |
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| 23:23.40 | Speereet | Hi. I have several machines with lots of unwanted software installed, and I want to remove and purge as much as I can, yet without breaking basic functionality. I want something with the effect of reinstalling the system with fundamental plus desktop functionality, but I must do it through SSH. So far, messing with dselect has been a headache. By the way, do you know any online guides, manuals or other on creating a basic schema of software to b |
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| 23:24.18 | dmoerner | Speereet: use the aptitude gui and remove the software you don't want. |
| 23:24.41 | AfterRain | I found a directory called xfce4 dmoerner :) I try to launch xfce4 |
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| 23:25.31 | Speereet | dmoerner: I'm doing it through SSH on a slow connection⦠|
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| 23:25.52 | AfterRain | good job dmoerner ; thank you a lot ;) |
| 23:26.07 | dmoerner | Speereet: so...? if you can use dselect you should be able to use aptitude |
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| 23:27.11 | S-i-A | !tell Daban about debian |
| 23:27.11 | Speereet | dmoerner: Ah⦠I didn't know aptitude had a curses interface. Thanks. |
| 23:27.29 | S-i-A | !tell Daban about etch |
| 23:27.53 | abrotman | uh |
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| 23:29.12 | allos_nerelin | http://packages.debian.org/etch/perl |
| 23:29.15 | allos_nerelin | not open |
| 23:29.16 | allos_nerelin | @_@ |
| 23:29.17 | reivers | hi! I cncoutered serious problems after upgrading from sarge to etch. After the kernelupdate (2.4.27 to 2.6.18) and the a restart, the IDE drives are not correctly recognized. I get DMA Interrupt timeouts while trying to boot. I can still boot the old kernel, but the new one is on strike. Can someone help me with that? |
| 23:29.22 | reivers | hi! I encoutered serious problems after upgrading from sarge to etch. After the kernelupdate (2.4.27 to 2.6.18) and the a restart, the IDE drives are not correctly recognized. I get DMA Interrupt timeouts while trying to boot. I can still boot the old kernel, but the new one is on strike. Can someone help me with that? |
| 23:29.27 | reivers | hi! I encoutered serious problems after upgrading from sarge to etch. After the kernelupdate (2.4.27 to 2.6.18) and the a restart, the IDE drives are not correctly recognized. I get DMA Interrupt timeouts while trying to boot. I can still boot the old kernel, but the bew one is on strike. Can someone help me with that? |
| 23:29.31 | reivers | hi! I encoutered serious problems after upgrading from sarge to etch. After the kernelupdate (2.4.27 to 2.6.18) and the a restart, the IDE drives are not correctly recegnized. I get DMA Interrupt timeouts while trying to boot. I can still boot the old kernel, but the new one is on strike. Can someone help me with that? |
| 23:29.34 | dmoerner | allos_nerelin: packages.debian.org is not running well right now. weasel said that it's because of heavy load and old hardware |
| 23:29.37 | reivers | hi! I encoutered serious problems after upgrading from sarge to etch. After the kernelupdate (2.4.27 to 2.6.18) and the a restart, the IDE drives are not correctly recognized. I get gMA Interrupt timeouts while trying to boot. I can still boot the old kernel, but the new one is on strike. Can someone help me with that? |
| 23:29.42 | reivers | hi! I encoutered serious problems after upgrabing from sarge to etch. After the kernelupdate (2.4.27 to 2.6.18) and the a restart, the IDE drives are not correctly recognized. I get DMA Interrupt timeouts while trying to boot. I can still boot the old kernel, but the new one is on strike. Can someone help me with that? |
| 23:29.42 | AfterRain | hey c'mon...stop flooding |
| 23:29.44 | zipper | reivers, you just made sure noone will help you. Congratulations |
| 23:29.45 | dmoerner | reivers: ...please don't paste 4 times to the channel |
| 23:29.47 | reivers | hi! I encoutered serious problems after upgrading from sarge to etch. After the kernelupdate (2.4.27 to 2.6.18) and the a restart, the IDE drives are not correctly recognized. I get DMA Interrupt timeouts while trying to boot. I can still boot the old kernel, but the new one is on sdrike. Can someone help me with that? |
| 23:29.51 | reivers | hi! I encoutered serious problems after hpgrading from sarge to etch. After the kernelupdate (2.4.27 to 2.6.18) and the a restart, the IDE drives are not correctly recognized. I get DMA Interrupt timeouts while trying to boot. I can still boot the old kernel, but the new one is on strike. Can someone help me with that? |
| 23:29.57 | reivers | hi! I encoutered serious problems after upgrading from sarge to etch. After the kernelupdate (2.4.27 to 2.6.18) and the a restart, the IDE drives are not correctly recognized. I get DMA Interrupt timeouts while trying to boot. I can still boot the old kernel, but the new one is on strhke. Can someone help me with that? |
| 23:30.02 | reivers | hi! I encoutered serious problems after upgrading from garge to etch. After the kernelupdate (2.4.27 to 2.6.18) and the a restart, the IDE drives are not correctly recognized. I get DMA Interrupt timeouts while trying to boot. I can still boot the old kernel, but the new one is on strike. Can someone help me with that? |
| 23:30.05 | zipper | no ban ? =/ |
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| 23:30.12 | reivers | hi! I encoutered serious problems after upgrading from sarge to etch. After the kernelupdate (2.4.27 to 2.6.18) and the a rbstart, the IDE drives are not correctly recognized. I get DMA Interrupt timeouts while trying to boot. I can still boot the old kernel, but the new one is on strike. Can someone help me with that? |
| 23:30.18 | reivers | hi! I encoutered serious problems after upgrading from sarge to etch. After the kernelupdate (2.4.27 to 2.6.18) and the a restart, the IDE drives are not correctly recognized. I get DMA Interrupt timeouts while trying to bood. I can still boot the old kernel, but the new one is on strike. Can someone help me with that? |
| 23:30.24 | reivers | hi! I encoutered serious problems after upgrading from sarge to etch. After the kernelupdate (2.4.27 to 2.6.18) and the a restart, the IDE drives are not correctly recognized. I get DMh Interrupt timeouts while trying to boot. I can still boot the old kernel, but the new one is on strike. Can someone help me with that? |
| 23:30.29 | Zharf | great |
| 23:30.34 | reivers | hi! I endoutered serious problems after upgrading from sarge to etch. After the kernelupdate (2.4.27 to 2.6.18) and the a restart, the IDE drives are not correctly recognized. I get DMA Interrupt timeouts while trying to boot. I can still boot the old kernel, but the new one is on strike. Can someone help me with that? |
| 23:30.34 | reivers | hi! I encoutered serious problems after upgrading from sarge to etch. After the kernelupdate (2.4.27 to 2.6.18) and the a restart, the IDE drives are not correctly recognized. I get DMA Interrupt timeouts while trying to boot. I can still boot the old kernel, but the new one is on strike. Can someonc help me with that? |
| 23:30.34 | dmoerner | i told them in #debian-ops |
| 23:30.38 | reivers | hi! I encoutered serious problems after upgrading from sarge to etch. After the kernelupdate (2.4.27 to 2.6.18) and the a restart, the IDE drives are not correctly recognized. I get DMA Interrupt timeouts while trying fo boot. I can still boot the old kernel, but the new one is on strike. Can someone help me with that? |
| 23:30.43 | reivers | hi! I encoutered serious problems after upgradfng from sarge to etch. After the kernelupdate (2.4.27 to 2.6.18) and the a restart, the IDE drives are not correctly recognized. I get DMA Interrupt timeouts while trying to boot. I can still boot the old kernel, but the new one is on strike. Can someone help me with that? |
| 23:30.43 | AfterRain | reivers ...nobody wants to help you after that :/ |
| 23:30.47 | reivers | hi! I encoutered serious problems after upgrading from sarge to etch. After the kernelupdate (2.4.27 to 2.6.18) and the a restart, the IDE drives are not corhectly recognized. I get DMA Interrupt timeouts while trying to boot. I can still boot the old kernel, but the new one is on strike. Can someone help me with that? |
| 23:30.54 | reivers | hi! I encoutered serious problems after upgrading from sarge to etch. After the kernelupdate (2.4.27 to 2.6.18) and the a restart, the IDE drives are not correctly recognized. I get DMA Interrupt ticeouts while trying to boot. I can still boot the old kernel, but the new one is on strike. Can someone help me with that? |
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| 23:31.01 | allos_nerelin | @@ |
| 23:31.02 | reivers | hi! I encoutered serious problems after upgrading from sarge to etch. After the kernelupgate (2.4.27 to 2.6.18) and the a restart, the IDE drives are not correctly recognized. I get DMA Interrupt timeouts while trying to boot. I can still boot the old kernel, but the new one is on strike. Can someone help me with that? |
| 23:31.03 | reivers | hi! Iaencoutered serious problems after upgrading from sarge to etch. After the kernelupdate (2.4.27 to 2.6.18) and the a restart, the IDE drives are not correctly recognized. I get DMA Interrupt timeouts while trying to boot. I can still boot the old kernel, but the new one is on strike. Can someone help me with that? |
| 23:31.08 | zipper | -.- |
| 23:31.10 | reivers | hi! I encoutered serious problems after upgrading from sarge to etch. After the kernelupdate (2.4.27 to 2.6.18) and the a restart, the IDE drives are not correctly recognized. I get DMA Interrupt timeouts while trying to boot. I can still boot the old kecnel, but the new one is on strike. Can someone help me with that? |
| 23:31.13 | reivers | hi! I encoutered serious problems after upgrading from sarge to etch. After the kernelupdate (2.4.27 to 2.6.18) and the a restart, the IDE drives are bot correctly recognized. I get DMA Interrupt timeouts while trying to boot. I can still boot the old kernel, but the new one is on strike. Can someone help me with that? |
| 23:31.17 | *** mode/#debian [+o abrotman] by ChanServ |
| 23:31.17 | amphi | it's not even tardsday :( |
| 23:31.18 | reivers | hi! I encoutered serious problems after upgrading from sarge to etch. After the kernelupdate (2.4.27 to 2.6.18) and the a restart, the IDE drives are not correctly recognized. I get DMA Interrupt timeouts while trying to boot. I can still boot the old kernel, but the new one is on strike. Can someone hdlp me with that? |
| 23:31.22 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@adsl-67-36-182-146.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] by abrotman |
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| 23:31.27 | abrotman | reivers: stop repeating your question |
| 23:31.30 | *** mode/#debian [-o abrotman] by abrotman |
| 23:31.35 | abrotman | dmoerner: and call ops here |
| 23:31.41 | zipper | thank you |
| 23:31.46 | MrWax | SASL authentication failed |
| 23:31.51 | MrWax | when trying to use mutt |
| 23:31.51 | dmoerner | abrotman: ok i will do both in the future. |
| 23:31.54 | MrWax | where can this be reason from? |
| 23:31.59 | abrotman | dmoerner: !ops foo problem blah ish type |
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| 23:32.23 | dmoerner | yeah i know the command i'm just of the school that reserves that for like a botnet attack...i didn't realize it would get so bad in here haha |
| 23:33.04 | cheef-daniel | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:33.05 | abrotman | dmoerner: yeah .. but at least if you highlight the ops here, they won't htink it's just chatter in the other channel |
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| 23:34.14 | jelly-home | cheef-daniel: echo ${variable_name}somestring |
| 23:34.50 | zipper | I'm installing and setting up libapache2-mod-musicindex and it works great. However, i'm missing some essential files, icons and .rss files mainly. None of the guides i've found mentions this, so i believe its a debian specific issue. How do i get my dirty hands on the stuff i need? |
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| 23:36.34 | dcestari | hello, why does mysql-server needs to install exim4 MTA? |
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| 23:36.53 | cheef-daniel | jelly-home: thank you again, now my subversion connects right to my bugtracker :) |
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| 23:37.54 | dcestari | I only need mysql-server, not a mail server. |
| 23:38.19 | dondelelcaro | dcestari: you need a way to get mail off of your system. |
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| 23:38.31 | dcestari | dondelelcaro: why is that? |
| 23:38.33 | dondelelcaro | dcestari: if you don't want to receive mail, install nullmailer or similar instead. |
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| 23:38.50 | dcestari | dondelelcaro: if I do it then I won't need exim? |
| 23:38.59 | dondelelcaro | dcestari: because you want to know when your cronjobs that do things for mysql are failing |
| 23:39.05 | dcestari | dondelelcaro: I mean, aptitude install nullmailer; aptitude install mysql-server ? |
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| 23:39.17 | dondelelcaro | dcestari: or aptitude install nullmailer exim- mysql-server; yes. |
| 23:39.38 | dondelelcaro | (if you already had exim installed; substitute whatever MTA you had installed otherwise) |
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| 23:40.29 | dcestari | dondelelcaro: sorry, what the minus after exim? |
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| 23:41.37 | dcestari | dondelelcaro: I mean, why the minus symbol after "exim" |
| 23:41.56 | dondelelcaro | dcestari: man aptitude; read the section under the install action |
| 23:42.08 | dcestari | dondelelcaro: will do! |
| 23:42.27 | the_plumber | im running oldstable and im having problems with printing pdf files. i can -see- the documents, i can read the documents, but when I choose print, the document prints but the text is just vertical lines. i thought it might be a problem with decryption, but on ubuntu, kdpf prints just fine (as a side note, i get the vertical lines even when i print preview under kde on oldstable |
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| 23:42.52 | the_plumber | could this be a font problem? |
| 23:43.25 | dcestari | dondelelcaro: I forgot install could be anything, even remove, purge, etc. but I don't need it as I don't have exim installed, I'm on a bootstrapped system. |
| 23:43.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | the_plumber, never heared the like |
| 23:43.31 | dcestari | dondelelcaro: minimal |
| 23:43.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | the_plumber, can you print ascii text? How about postscript directly? I guess you're using cups? |
| 23:43.56 | the_plumber | CutMeOwnThroat: it is odd, i've never had a problem with xpdf or kpdf before |
| 23:44.09 | the_plumber | i can print everything just fine, but the pdf's wont print |
| 23:44.19 | dondelelcaro | dcestari: ah, then you don't need it |
| 23:44.23 | the_plumber | some pdfs will print |
| 23:44.26 | the_plumber | others wont |
| 23:44.35 | the_plumber | just greyed out vertical lines |
| 23:44.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | the_plumber, pdf2ps xx.pdf -> lpr xx.ps |
| 23:44.45 | the_plumber | did that, that works |
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| 23:44.59 | dcestari | dondelelcaro: thanks for your help, didn't know about that nullmailer package. it's like an implementation of the virtual mailer package? |
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| 23:45.34 | the_plumber | CutMeOwnThroat: pdf2ps wont pick up on the landscape pages though |
| 23:45.41 | dondelelcaro | dcestari: don't know what the virtual mailer is; basically it's just an implementation of /usr/lib/sendmail which is capable of getting mail off of your machine to a real smtp server, with queuing in case of a problem with the real smtp server |
| 23:46.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | the_plumber, it sounds as if there's a problem with the filter - not sure how that works, but I think xpdf would just send the pdf to cups and that would select a pdf2ps filter and send the postscript to the printer (or convert the postscript to pcl5 and send this) - mind that I'm just making this up from what I've seen how things some things behave on my system |
| 23:46.17 | dcestari | dondelelcaro: but does nullmailer actually sends mail? |
| 23:46.44 | geek_ | i've got an old system i got wireless access via an RT2500. it dosen't seem to work out of the box with etch, though it seems to work with newer kernels on ubuntu with network manager... |
| 23:47.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | the_plumber, so you're using lenny? did you try to check the bts? |
| 23:47.09 | the_plumber | CutMeOwnThroat:L yeah, thats what i figured was happening also as the problem happens with both xpdf and kpdf |
| 23:47.10 | geek_ | is there any place where i can get a newer kenel that would work with etch? |
| 23:47.22 | the_plumber | CutMeOwnThroat: whats a bts? |
| 23:47.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | !BTS |
| 23:47.30 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. Useful for unstable and testing: aptitude install apt-listbugs <apt-listchanges> . |
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| 23:47.34 | geek_ | (as a deb, since naturally till i get everything working i'm stuck with whatever the default intallation DVD has) |
| 23:47.40 | streuner | geek_: what kind of kernel do you use now? |
| 23:47.42 | the_plumber | ty |
| 23:48.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | the_plumber, guess would be worthwhile checking the cupsd package, if you use that for printing(?) |
| 23:48.11 | streuner | !listvals 2500 |
| 23:48.12 | the_plumber | thats what im using |
| 23:48.12 | dcestari | dondelelcaro: s/virtual/meta/g |
| 23:48.13 | dpkg | Factoid search of '2500' by value (2): ralink ;; f5d7050. |
| 23:48.20 | geek_ | streuner: the one that came with the DVD. I need to reinstall though, its on some *buntu variant and has a wierd bug on that |
| 23:48.20 | dcestari | dondelelcaro: hehe. I meant meta-package. |
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| 23:48.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | the_plumber, try to figure out which package is responsible for the printing filters... there's at least also gimp-print and... well, dunno - more than one |
| 23:49.11 | dondelelcaro | dcestari: nah, it's a real mail-transport-agent |
| 23:49.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | the_plumber, so perhaps you just have to remove the offending filters and you're good (and file a bug report on this so the corresponding filter can be fixed) |
| 23:49.29 | dondelelcaro | dcestari: it's just a really small one that does everything you want if you don't want to receive mail |
| 23:49.32 | streuner | geek_: what does 'cat /proc/version' say? |
| 23:49.37 | dcestari | dondelelcaro: I know, but mail-transport-agent is a metapackage, so I said nullmailer provides it. |
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| 23:49.58 | dondelelcaro | dcestari: mail-transport-agent is a virtual package |
| 23:50.08 | geek_ | streuner: as i said, it isn't running it right now... |
| 23:50.18 | dondelelcaro | dcestari: virtual packages don't actually exist; meta packages are packages which exist to depend on other packages |
| 23:50.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | the_plumber, also - if you're using cups connect to http://localhost:631/printers/ with a browser and see if you have the correct printer driver |
| 23:50.48 | dcestari | dondelelcaro: I see. |
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| 23:51.03 | dcestari | dondelelcaro: so xmail is a virtual package |
| 23:51.18 | streuner | geek_: try /msg dpkg ralink |
| 23:51.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | the_plumber, perhaps the filters are fine and some documents just end up using printing code that your printer doesn't understand because you're using a "nearly the same" driver, which is *not* similar enough to work for all input |
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| 23:51.38 | dondelelcaro | dcestari: no, xmail is a real package |
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| 23:52.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | the_plumber, if it's the driver, you can probably get a ppd for your exact model at http://www.linuxprinting.org |
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| 23:52.44 | dondelelcaro | dcestari: mail-transport-agent is a virtual package; xserver-xorg is an example of a meta package. [apt-cache show will tell you the difference between the two.] |
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| 23:53.38 | geek_ | streuner: hmm, that might be useful, thanks ;) |
| 23:54.11 | finlike | 0826 Hi, I've got a problem but I'm not going to explain it to you in a coherent way. I'm also going to annoy you by using contractions like "ur" and "ne", furthermore I'm going to make up my own abbreviations of technical phrases and terms |
| 23:54.12 | dcestari | dondelelcaro: I meant mailx then |
| 23:54.16 | finlike | 0986 Hi, I've got a problem but I'm not going to explain it to you in a coherent way. I'm also going to annoy you by using contractions like "ur" and "ne", furthermore I'm going to make up my own abbreviations of technical phrases and terms |
| 23:54.21 | finlike | 0844 Hi, I've got a problem but I'm not going to explain it to you in a coherent way. I'm also going to annoy you by using contractions like "ur" and "ne", furthermore I'm going to make up my own abbreviations of technical phrases and terms |
| 23:54.26 | finlike | 0336 Hi, I've got a problem but I'm not going to explain it to you in a coherent way. I'm also going to annoy you by using contractions like "ur" and "ne", furthermore I'm going to make up my own abbreviations of technical phrases and terms |
| 23:54.31 | finlike | 0409 Hi, I've got a problem but I'm not going to explain it to you in a coherent way. I'm also going to annoy you by using contractions like "ur" and "ne", furthermore I'm going to make up my own abbreviations of technical phrases and terms |
| 23:54.31 | streuner | omg |
| 23:54.36 | finlike | 0484 Hi, I've got a problem but I'm not going to explain it to you in a coherent way. I'm also going to annoy you by using contractions like "ur" and "ne", furthermore I'm going to make up my own abbreviations of technical phrases and terms |
| 23:54.41 | finlike | 0265 Hi, I've got a problem but I'm not going to explain it to you in a coherent way. I'm also going to annoy you by using contractions like "ur" and "ne", furthermore I'm going to make up my own abbreviations of technical phrases and terms |
| 23:54.46 | finlike | 0623 Hi, I've got a problem but I'm not going to explain it to you in a coherent way. I'm also going to annoy you by using contractions like "ur" and "ne", furthermore I'm going to make up my own abbreviations of technical phrases and terms |
| 23:54.48 | *** join/#debian _xan (i=dell@your.channel.is.about.to.get.masskick.by.lamehost.org) |
| 23:54.49 | streuner | dondelelcaro: ? |
| 23:54.49 | jelly-home | !ops finlike ffs |
| 23:54.50 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: jelly-home complains about: finlike ffs |
| 23:54.51 | finlike | 0385 Hi, I've got a problem but I'm not going to explain it to you in a coherent way. I'm also going to annoy you by using contractions like "ur" and "ne", furthermore I'm going to make up my own abbreviations of technical phrases and terms |
| 23:54.54 | *** mode/#debian [+o dondelelcaro] by ChanServ |
| 23:54.54 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@c-76-18-112-247.hsd1.al.comcast.net] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:54.54 | *** part/#debian finlike (n=well@c-76-18-112-247.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 23:54.54 | *** mode/#debian [-o dondelelcaro] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:55.16 | *** join/#debian explode (i=explode@82.128.33.207) |
| 23:55.27 | dondelelcaro | dcestari: that's actually a transitional meta-package |
| 23:55.44 | dondelelcaro | (or just a transition package) |
| 23:55.51 | *** join/#debian davidX- (n=dmyers@134.170.232.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com) |
| 23:56.03 | davidX- | hello, is anyone familiar with preseeded installs? |
| 23:56.05 | *** join/#debian bier (n=bier@pD9E2E1A2.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 23:56.08 | dcestari | well I g2g dondelelcaro thanks for everything |
| 23:56.13 | explode | any hacker here |
| 23:56.15 | explode | ? |
| 23:56.18 | dondelelcaro | !tell davidX- -about ask |
| 23:56.19 | explode | ? |
| 23:56.20 | explode | any hacker here |
| 23:56.24 | explode | any hacker here |
| 23:56.26 | *** mode/#debian [+o dondelelcaro] by ChanServ |
| 23:56.26 | cbk486 | Hello, I'm not sure if anyone could help me here(or if this is the right place for this, but I'll try anyway. I have download the murrine engine 0.53.1 from softpedia. I need to install it for a theme I want off of gnome-look. The instructions say to run ./configure and then make, then make install. However, when I run "make" I get a message saying no targets specified and no makefile found. What am I doing wrong? |
| 23:56.26 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@82.128.33.207] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:56.27 | *** part/#debian explode (i=explode@82.128.33.207) |
| 23:56.27 | *** mode/#debian [-o dondelelcaro] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:56.48 | streuner | uh, that sounds like hard work tonight... |
| 23:57.45 | davidX- | i'm looking for information on partitioning xfs layoutts with partman from the preseed installer... i'm on this page http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apbs04.html.en at the partitioning section but am unsure if i can use part-auto and specify xfs for the filesystem and have it work properly |
| 23:58.54 | davidX- | in that url it references 'partman-auto-recipe.txt' but i can't find that file on my system to reference it |
| 23:58.59 | *** join/#debian SlackDeb (n=fperetti@201.254.121.180) |
| 23:59.18 | abrotman | davidX-: you have to create it IIRC |
| 23:59.26 | streuner | partimage isn't able to use xfs |
| 23:59.42 | streuner | wonders if any other tool could deal with that |
| 23:59.46 | *** join/#debian cafuego (n=cafuego@web-03.cc.com.au) |
| 23:59.52 | abrotman | really? |
| 23:59.56 | abrotman | that seems .. not good |
