| 00:00.16 | something | abrotman, what does that have to do with it? iceweasel is also based on mozilla... |
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| 00:00.38 | abrotman | something: but iceweasel is setup to use the alternatives system .. is FF3 from mozilla.com ? |
| 00:01.07 | something | Firefox 3? |
| 00:01.09 | Laeborg|Lap | i have a 80gb partition for windows xp, and 80gb for debian (70gb for /home, 7GB for system). My dualboot working like a dream, but i would like to add one OS more and make a tripelboot (winxp, debian and backtrack) |
| 00:01.11 | something | ... |
| 00:01.34 | something | It is called Mozilla Firefox. >_> |
| 00:01.38 | Laeborg|Lap | but my HDD is only 160gb, so is it possible to delete the /home partition or resize it ? |
| 00:02.08 | abrotman | something: something that doesn't mean it uses the alternatives system |
| 00:02.15 | something | what alternatives |
| 00:02.16 | Graveworm | Laeborg: On which filesystem is your home dir? |
| 00:02.29 | Laeborg|Lap | ext2 or 3 |
| 00:02.45 | abrotman | you used update-alternatives |
| 00:02.55 | abrotman | what the heck makes you think mozilla.com FF3 cares about alternatives? |
| 00:03.01 | Laeborg|Lap | ext3 |
| 00:03.19 | Graveworm | Laeborg: You can try to resize it with "gparted" for example. That worked fine for me so far. |
| 00:03.19 | abrotman | something: regardless .. ask #firefox on irc.mozilla.org why their browser doesn't work with java .. or install iceweasel and ask again |
| 00:03.27 | something | abrotman, I did that to choose the newly installed java libs instead of the default gcj |
| 00:03.33 | Laeborg|Lap | okay, will give it a try, thank you |
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| 00:03.48 | Laeborg|Lap | or one question, can i resize it without format the disc ? |
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| 00:04.50 | something | abrotman, and I'm pretty sure firefox works well with java being that I have it installed on Windows |
| 00:04.51 | Laeborg|Lap | i can see i need to unmount first |
| 00:05.00 | abrotman | something: we didn't give you your browser .. ask the people that did |
| 00:05.10 | Graveworm | Laeborg: Yes... I usually did it with gparted ;). It is gui based. But I had some problems with moving partitions with it. |
| 00:05.30 | Laeborg|Lap | http://www.myupload.dk/showfile/834675fc78.png/ - screen shot |
| 00:05.36 | Graveworm | Laeborg: You also should backup your data first |
| 00:05.36 | manu_hack | my .26 wont boot, get stuck at ACPI: Using IOAPIC for interrupt routing, any clue? |
| 00:05.45 | something | abrotman, lol if you don't know how to solve the problem just say that. It as nothing to do with the browser. If it did then iceweasel would have the same problem(s) being that it is derived from mozilla. lol |
| 00:05.54 | Laeborg|Lap | i really don't have a lot of information on that disc yet |
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| 00:06.13 | abrotman | something: i might know how .. but it's offtopic .. and i have no desire to try to fix something that didn't come from a debian package |
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| 00:06.26 | Graveworm | Laeborg: "Information"? You mean data ;)? |
| 00:06.34 | Laeborg|Lap | yeah sorry |
| 00:06.49 | Laeborg|Lap | can i unmount the disc while im usign debian? |
| 00:06.53 | abrotman | something: FWIW .. i use IW3 and the debian java packages on lenny .. java works fine |
| 00:07.24 | something | abrotman, of course it does. It worse fine over here as well |
| 00:07.34 | abrotman | okay .. have a nice day |
| 00:07.37 | abrotman | problem solved |
| 00:08.05 | something | I love it when people can't admit something lol |
| 00:08.08 | Graveworm | Laeborg: Hmm... I usually used a live-cd for such tasks... Knoppix for example. Which user you are currently using? Is it's home dir on that partition? |
| 00:08.18 | Graveworm | Laeborg: That may cause problems. |
| 00:08.28 | abrotman | something: if you want help for your non-debian packages .. ask the people that gave them to you .. not us .. |
| 00:08.33 | Laeborg|Lap | yeah i only have one user on my system |
| 00:08.35 | abrotman | i love it when people can't find the right place to ask |
| 00:08.42 | Wyzard | hmm, packages.debian.org seems to be down |
| 00:08.47 | something | abrotman, do this: apt-get install firefox as root and see what happens |
| 00:08.48 | abrotman | it's like they need a map to get to the bathroom |
| 00:08.56 | Graveworm | Laeborg: Erm.... But it's not root right ;)? |
| 00:08.59 | abrotman | something: it pulls in iceweasel .. nice try though |
| 00:09.04 | abrotman | Wyzard: for days it's been messed |
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| 00:09.14 | abrotman | something: that's called a transitional package |
| 00:09.15 | Laeborg|Lap | Graveworm: no a user called 'laeborg' |
| 00:09.25 | something | abrotman, people ask these questions because it's being used on a debian system. Which kind of makes sense. |
| 00:09.39 | abrotman | something: then use iceweasel .. problem solved |
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| 00:10.18 | robin_sz | anyone have nay bright ideas onhow to monitor Samba with nagios? |
| 00:10.26 | Laeborg|Lap | umount: /home: device is busy |
| 00:10.27 | Graveworm | Laeborg: Ok. Fine :). So it should be possible to start as root -even with a xserver- an then use "gparted". So you should not running into problems while unmounting the home partition. |
| 00:10.34 | something | It's like saying "Oh.. um, so if your kernel isn't loading, maybe you should talk to the devs." which then defeats the whole purpose asking for debian help on a debian chan |
| 00:10.49 | something | but, I'm not gonna sit here and argue with someone who knows less that I do, apparently |
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| 00:10.53 | abrotman | loves it when people are dense |
| 00:10.57 | something | thanks for your "assistance" |
| 00:10.59 | Graveworm | If the home dir of root is not in home of course. |
| 00:11.00 | something | lol |
| 00:11.01 | abrotman | have fun! |
| 00:11.22 | something | I sure will and I will post the fix on the debian forums so people won't have to run into senseless people like you |
| 00:11.25 | something | laters |
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| 00:11.33 | nmh_2Grajw | ooc, what was that about? |
| 00:11.53 | abrotman | senseless people that come to #debian to whine about non-debian packages? |
| 00:11.56 | |Laeborg|Lap| | Graveworm: not possible to linux as root via kde |
| 00:12.38 | nmh_2Grajw | ahh.. |
| 00:13.20 | Wyzard | wonders why the azureus package has been changed to not allow any other JVM besides OpenJDK |
| 00:13.29 | |Laeborg|Lap| | http://pastebin.com/m4caa281b |
| 00:13.52 | abrotman | Wyzard: because they can? |
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| 00:14.36 | Graveworm | Laeborg: Hm? Hmm... What does kde "say" if you try to start it as root? |
| 00:14.53 | Laeborg|Lap | something like not allowed |
| 00:16.07 | Graveworm | Laeborg: Nerch... Hmm... You don't have a live-cd ready to hand right ;)? |
| 00:16.12 | Wyzard | apparently it's meant as a fix for the fact that Azureus doesn't work with GIJ |
| 00:16.39 | Laeborg|Lap | think i have a ubuntu live cd |
| 00:16.55 | Wyzard | and someone did an NMU which completely disregards the possiblity of someone using sun-java5 or sun-java6 |
| 00:17.07 | abrotman | Wyzard: that's kind of weird .. though when i filed a bug about dguitar kind of doing something like that .. i was told to stop using dguitar :) |
| 00:17.59 | Laeborg|Lap | yes i have a ubuntu live cd here |
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| 00:18.12 | Graveworm | Laeborg: Ok... that cd should also contain "gparted". Another try is to do it on the console without a xserver started. |
| 00:18.33 | Laeborg|Lap | can i start gparted gui without xserver ? |
| 00:18.39 | Graveworm | Usining "resize2fs" |
| 00:18.43 | Graveworm | No. |
| 00:18.46 | Laeborg|Lap | okay |
| 00:18.51 | Laeborg|Lap | will try the live cd |
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| 00:18.57 | scrote | hi |
| 00:18.58 | Graveworm | It's only via command line. |
| 00:19.12 | scrote | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:19.16 | Laeborg|Lap | or wait i need to go to bed now, will look at it tomorrow. thanks so far |
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| 00:19.32 | Graveworm | No problem :). |
| 00:19.33 | scrote | i need to select a router's name |
| 00:20.07 | abrotman | scrote: the wireless-tools .. iwlist <interface> scanning |
| 00:20.41 | rfrank | Hey guys, I'm thinking about using Debian amd64 again, is there still a problem with using flash player? From what I remember, I had to make a 32-bit chroot so I could run flash player; is there any way to get around this now? |
| 00:21.10 | scrote | thanx abrotman |
| 00:21.14 | abrotman | !nspluginwrapper |
| 00:21.21 | abrotman | uh ? |
| 00:21.38 | manu_hack | dead ? |
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| 00:21.45 | abrotman | might be |
| 00:22.00 | abrotman | <dpkg> well, nspluginwrapper is a wrapper allowing you to use 32-bit browser plugins in a native x86_64 browser. It is known to work with <Adobe Flash> and a few others. Debian packages are in the <contrib> archive for lenny and later; ask me about <backports.org> for etch packages. |
| 00:22.02 | abrotman | guess so |
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| 00:23.25 | abrotman | scrote: there is also free semi-complete implementations |
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| 00:24.22 | scrote | http://rafb.net/p/5E8LLg40.html |
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| 00:24.52 | abrotman | scrote: that is not in the slightest way funny or appropriate |
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| 00:26.16 | xsdg | abrotman: yo |
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| 00:26.23 | abrotman | hi |
| 00:26.27 | abrotman | pseubodot: HI |
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| 00:26.34 | abrotman | xsdg: you're still alive! |
| 00:26.43 | xsdg | yup :o) |
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| 00:29.30 | Tramp | abrotman: 2008.08.26 scrote [n=mail@156.12.35.88] has quit IRC: K-lined <-- known troll probably |
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| 00:30.08 | abrotman | acts like it |
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| 00:31.57 | xsdg | apt: ping |
| 00:31.57 | apt | ~pong |
| 00:32.19 | xsdg | dpkg: ping |
| 00:32.19 | dpkg | pong |
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| 00:32.32 | xsdg | eenteresting |
| 00:32.37 | xsdg | "Lag: 58.27" |
| 00:33.09 | infinity_ | is there a mirror of packages.deiban.org ?? |
| 00:33.12 | infinity_ | its uber-slow |
| 00:33.26 | abrotman | infinity_: what are you looking for? |
| 00:33.31 | infinity_ | fxotune info |
| 00:34.26 | abrotman | what? |
| 00:34.32 | infinity_ | whats wrong with it anyway? been slow for awhile now |
| 00:34.48 | abrotman | yes yes |
| 00:34.51 | abrotman | what are you looking for? |
| 00:35.08 | Graveworm | Oh erm... Just if somebody knows about acls... I've another problem. If I set up acl permissions for one user group this group is shown as a normal user under the windows explorer (the submenu "security settings"). But the system acts normal. On filesystem side this "user" is shown as the correct group. I mean it seems that the acl database is linked against a wrong name. Is that possible? btw. thats not the same group causing my o |
| 00:35.08 | Graveworm | ther problem... Hmm.. I really think my machine is messed up ;(... |
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| 00:36.05 | infinity_ | i'm looking for information on fxotune |
| 00:36.33 | abrotman | !info fxotune unstable |
| 00:37.11 | infinity_ | is the bot asleep? |
| 00:37.14 | abrotman | <dpkg> Package 'fxotune' does not exist. |
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| 00:37.42 | infinity_ | yea. its gotta be in another package. |
| 00:37.42 | infinity_ | which is why packages.debian.org would be helpful |
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| 00:37.47 | xsdg | how do I configure which locales are generated? |
| 00:38.15 | infinity_ | hm |
| 00:38.15 | infinity_ | shit |
| 00:38.20 | Bardamu | Hello |
| 00:38.22 | Bardamu | http://pastebin.com/m70325105 |
| 00:38.32 | Bardamu | i don't hear the sound |
| 00:39.17 | Graveworm | ....why do I always run into problems that no one can answer.... :(.... Maybe I should better used SuSE ;)... |
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| 00:39.44 | Graveworm | xsdg: try "dpkg-reconfigure locales" |
| 00:39.47 | xsdg | there's always apt-file |
| 00:39.51 | infinity_ | localepurge ? |
| 00:39.52 | abrotman | infinity_: anything you want to do with pdo can be done on your computer |
| 00:40.10 | infinity_ | abrotman: how do i search for files in packages? |
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| 00:40.23 | enouf | xsdg: told you how |
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| 00:40.31 | Bardamu | i have that since i "aptitude install gimp" |
| 00:40.35 | Bardamu | it's strange |
| 00:40.40 | abrotman | infinity_: apt-file |
| 00:40.40 | enouf | and man dpkg for installed pkgs |
| 00:40.43 | Bardamu | Anyone can help me ? |
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| 00:40.50 | xsdg | wow, lots of lag |
| 00:41.01 | xsdg | server-to-server too, fun |
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| 00:41.36 | morbyte | hi. after pressing the sleep button for the first time ever, my lenny box isnt able to boot up again. |
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| 00:42.13 | infinity_ | abrotman: oh snaps! this is sweeeeeeeet |
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| 00:42.13 | newsense | hit the turbo button |
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| 00:42.23 | abrotman | !tell infinity_ about search |
| 00:42.48 | debhass | Hi Guys I managed to install Debian etch 4r4 base system on 2G USB drive and I'm using qemu Vharddrive all went well |
| 00:42.48 | debhass | but whay I can't understand why qemu sees the processor as P|| |
| 00:43.06 | debhass | I meant what I can't understand :) |
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| 00:43.35 | abrotman | qemu emulates a PII ? |
| 00:43.45 | abrotman | xsdg: WB! |
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| 00:44.00 | xsdg | abrotman: !!! :o) |
| 00:44.03 | infinity_ | abrotman: how do i search a deb-src ? say i want to know the latest zaptel package in lenny? |
| 00:44.15 | infinity_ | abrotman: and i have a deb-src line for it in sources |
| 00:44.23 | abrotman | infinity_: zaptel isn't a deb-src .. it's just a source package |
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| 00:44.31 | abrotman | infinity_: apt-cache show zaptel-source |
| 00:44.37 | infinity_ | abrotman: yea. i know, but |
| 00:44.39 | abrotman | or apt-cache policy zaptel-source |
| 00:44.39 | infinity_ | abrotman: ah |
| 00:44.44 | abrotman | that has nothing to do with deb-src lines |
| 00:44.53 | infinity_ | hm |
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| 00:45.00 | infinity_ | abrotman: okay. |
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| 00:45.30 | debhass | yes emulates P|| on P4 |
| 00:45.49 | abrotman | infinity_: not for that package anyways |
| 00:46.04 | infinity_ | abrotman: that shows the wrong version |
| 00:46.05 | abrotman | PII |
| 00:46.07 | abrotman | not P|| |
| 00:46.15 | abrotman | infinity_: how do you know? |
| 00:46.23 | abrotman | !info zaptel-source lenn |
| 00:46.24 | abrotman | !info zaptel-source lenny |
| 00:46.29 | dpkg | zaptel-source: (Zapata telephony interface (source code for kernel driver)), section devel, is optional. Version: 1:1.4.11~dfsg-1 (lenny), Packaged size: 1148 kB, Installed size: 1344 kB |
| 00:46.36 | infinity_ | abrotman: i'm running etch, but i have a deb-src for lenny. |
| 00:46.36 | infinity_ | abrotman: so how do i search the versions of a package avaialbe in lenny? |
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| 00:47.04 | abrotman | xsdg: there's no lag at all |
| 00:47.04 | kspath | abrotman: WB |
| 00:47.05 | xsdg | abrotman: :o) |
| 00:47.23 | abrotman | infinity_: you're doing it wrong |
| 00:48.10 | infinity_ | abrotman: so i can't do it from my cmoputer. use IRC? |
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| 00:48.10 | morbyte | hi. after pressing the sleep button for the first time ever, my lenny box isnt able to boot up again. it always stops when telling me "Waiting for root file system...". if i wait long enough i get down to busybox. which tells me its not able to access the root drive. using a livecd i found that the ext3 partitions (sda6 & sda7) somehow got wiped (gparted shows "no filesystem detected or unknown fs-type or not formatted)... what ha |
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| 00:48.34 | morbyte | i think now i got it all in 1 msg |
| 00:48.57 | newsense | how can i search for files over 400mb ? |
| 00:49.07 | abrotman | infinity_: check backports.org ? |
| 00:49.07 | abrotman | a deb-src line won't help you find zaptel-source |
| 00:49.07 | abrotman | not that i know of anyways |
| 00:49.19 | abrotman | newsense: man find |
| 00:49.23 | newsense | i have a pretty slim system and df-h reports 8.4g used on / |
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| 00:49.26 | infinity_ | newsense: man find |
| 00:49.34 | xsdg | haha! |
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| 00:49.52 | abrotman | okay .. this is getting stupid |
| 00:49.54 | kspath | hehehe |
| 00:49.57 | infinity_ | abrotman: heh |
| 00:49.58 | newsense | haha |
| 00:50.00 | xsdg | abrotman: debhelper is thumbing its nose at you |
| 00:50.04 | newsense | giggle giggle |
| 00:50.11 | newsense | little school girls! |
| 00:50.16 | infinity_ | abrotman: yea. thats what i thought |
| 00:50.16 | infinity_ | thanks for the help though. |
| 00:50.28 | infinity_ | i can use irc to get the info |
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| 00:50.48 | abrotman | the worst part .. he's kicking me like 10 seconds after the last time i talked |
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| 00:51.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | newsense, if you just want to clean up the disk and you search for "big files" you could try gdmap |
| 00:51.53 | newsense | CutMeOwnThroat: thanks |
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| 00:52.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | newsense, it's graphical, though.... so you need X |
| 00:52.48 | morbyte | newsense: or use baobab which is installed if you have a gnome installation |
| 00:52.52 | infinity_ | !info zaptel lenny |
| 00:52.59 | dpkg | zaptel: (zapata telephony utilities), section comm, is optional. Version: 1:1.4.11~dfsg-1 (lenny), Packaged size: 288 kB, Installed size: 940 kB |
| 00:53.04 | newsense | CutMeOwnThroat: ill try it, im very curious to see why 8.4gigs are being used |
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| 00:53.32 | Graveworm | Bardamu: Still alive ;)? I just try to find something out about that message... No really much I found. Can you tell "mplayer" that it should open a mp3 file? I mean explicitly tell it that it should open it as mp3? |
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| 00:54.07 | Graveworm | Bardamu: Is the filesize of that file non-zero? Can you open some other mp3s? |
| 00:54.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | abrotman, of course - that was when his connection resumed... and all your messages appeared in a rush |
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| 00:54.23 | abrotman | CutMeOwnThroat: i know |
| 00:54.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | there should probably be a check in that bot for lag :) |
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| 00:55.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | abrotman, or you got on his nerves yesterday and this was the revenge *g* |
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| 00:55.41 | xsdg | CutMeOwnThroat: what's it supposed to do? |
| 00:55.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | xsdg, what's what supposed to do? |
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| 00:55.58 | xsdg | CutMeOwnThroat: debhelper |
| 00:56.02 | Bardamu | Graveworm: no i can't |
| 00:56.07 | xsdg | CutMeOwnThroat: I'm pretty sure this is inter-server lag rather than client lag |
| 00:56.17 | abrotman | xsdg: kick people that flood, among other things |
| 00:56.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | xsdg, what it did - kick people who paste >3 lines |
| 00:56.28 | xsdg | abrotman: then stop flooding |
| 00:56.32 | abrotman | xsdg: so when the bot sees me talk a bunch in a row .. i go buhbye .. /msg dpkg enter |
| 00:56.33 | xsdg | grins |
| 00:56.42 | kspath | newsense: du -m /path/to/check | sort -nr | head -20 |
| 00:56.51 | Graveworm | Bardamu: Do you have another player? Just for testing. |
| 00:56.57 | Bardamu | yes vlc |
| 00:57.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | xsdg, but if it's connection breaks down, then is resumed normal writing will appear in a much shorter time to the bot ->kick |
| 00:57.01 | Bardamu | and it's not working |
| 00:57.22 | newsense | kspath: thanks this isnt working |
| 00:57.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | newsense, what isnt? |
| 00:57.57 | xsdg | CutMeOwnThroat: sorry, I meant that as "what's the bot supposed to do about lag; it's indistinguishable from someone pasting stuff" |
| 00:58.09 | newsense | CutMeOwnThroat: gdmap |
| 00:58.15 | Graveworm | Bardamu: Are you using a distro kernel or something self compiled? Do you only installed "gimp" or also updated some other files? |
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| 00:58.30 | xsdg | I understand what's going on and stuff; I just don't see what you could change |
| 00:58.45 | thesandstrom | anyone using a free / open Red Alert implementation here? |
| 00:59.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | xsdg, well my client displays a lagmeter - however it does that, the bot has the same information available, so it *could* detect it |
| 00:59.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | xsdg, simple, desactivate the kicking during/after >2 seconds lag to the server |
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| 01:00.15 | h3k | anyone cracker here? |
| 01:00.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | newsense, it takes quite a while to go throught the whole filesystem (there's a status bar down at the bottom) - and you have to "open" the path 1st |
| 01:00.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | h3k, polly wants a cracker! |
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| 01:00.39 | xsdg | whee! |
| 01:00.42 | newsense | CutMeOwnThroat: thanks but im not really a gui person |
| 01:00.50 | newsense | du will do |
| 01:01.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | newsense, yeah, me neither, but it's cute to look at :)\ |
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| 01:01.17 | newsense | no :-) |
| 01:01.24 | xsdg | :oP |
| 01:01.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | yes! |
| 01:01.25 | h3k | themida. |
| 01:01.30 | newsense | my desktop in x is cute |
| 01:01.48 | abrotman | cute? |
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| 01:01.55 | newsense | !cute |
| 01:01.56 | dpkg | acts all adorable |
| 01:02.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | hehe |
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| 01:02.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | ex-act-ly |
| 01:02.08 | newsense | haha |
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| 01:03.02 | dto | hello. |
| 01:03.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | newsense, and the graphical representation has its merits, as you can see that a huge directory is made up of thousands of small files or of a couple of large ones in an intuitive way |
| 01:03.36 | xsdg | [OT] http://www.cheapass.com/products/cardgames/cag032.html |
| 01:03.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | but each to his own :) |
| 01:03.39 | n8ature | hello, whats the best way to get DKMS installed on Etch? I can't seem to find any information.. only an old sarge repo.. |
| 01:03.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | or her own, as that might be |
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| 01:09.35 | Graveworm | Ok... it's late here. I'll finish my beer and will bother you again tomorrow about my acl problem ;). Bye! |
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| 01:12.30 | dto | i'm on debian lenny. on #alsa a troubleshooter told me that i may need newer versions of the alsa tools. is there a way to do this without messing up my system? |
| 01:14.24 | abrotman | which version did he tell you ? |
| 01:14.31 | abrotman | !info alsa-source lenny |
| 01:14.33 | dpkg | alsa-source: (ALSA driver sources), section sound, is optional. Version: 1.0.16-2 (lenny), Packaged size: 2929 kB, Installed size: 3060 kB |
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| 01:23.24 | dto | abrotman: <gnubien> dto: to the newest version of alsa possible like 1.0.16 or 1.0.17 |
| 01:23.37 | abrotman | dto: m-a a-i alsa |
| 01:23.47 | dto | i have to finish letting my new kernel build. |
| 01:24.05 | abrotman | well .. i have no idea if it will work then |
| 01:24.07 | dto | i use a patched kernel, the projects/rt ones |
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| 01:24.24 | dto | well, m-a a-i alsa seemed to run and complete fine a few minutes ago. |
| 01:24.30 | dto | i tried it at their suggestion. |
| 01:24.38 | dto | but i decided to update my RT kernel. |
| 01:24.43 | dto | then do it again i presume. |
| 01:25.32 | n8ature | found my answer if anyone wants to know: the ubuntu deb file from this page seems to work fine with Etch. I was able to use it to then build and install the latest driver for my adaptec raid card. http://linux.dell.com/dkms/ |
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| 01:27.02 | rfrank | if I have an ATI card; whats the best dual monitor mode where I can get hardware acceleration? |
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| 01:30.42 | something | abrotman, daddy's back and I have solved the problem on my own. |
| 01:30.56 | abrotman | something: good for you |
| 01:31.02 | abrotman | something: i'm glad you got it fixed .. |
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| 01:34.30 | something | sure. Anyway, the issue was due to a sym link issue (i.e. a sym link had to be created to the users ~/ from the _original_ .so plugin in the original java path) |
| 01:35.22 | abrotman | because you installed FF3 in your userdir instead of in /usr/local/ ? |
| 01:35.40 | shyam_k | i had downloaded lenny weekly iso months before and now too it runs very smoothly. But my friends complain about the iso he downloaded(Yeah the weekly isos differ in stability right?) Is it now time to download the isos expecting a good level of usability? |
| 01:35.44 | something | no. firefox is installed in /usr/local |
| 01:35.55 | abrotman | okay .. that's goofy |
| 01:36.14 | abrotman | shyam_k: yes .. they differ in stability .. and they should work fairly well |
| 01:36.23 | abrotman | at this point anyways |
| 01:36.30 | something | the java plugin wasn't sym linked from the original libjavaplugin_oji.so |
| 01:36.41 | something | That was the issue |
| 01:36.44 | abrotman | where was the final location for the original plugin ? |
| 01:36.50 | xsdg | abrotman: yeah, the US is headed way downhill on the internet traffic report |
| 01:36.55 | xsdg | so it's likely not jsut freenode |
| 01:37.02 | abrotman | xsdg: i blame the current administration! |
| 01:37.30 | xsdg | laughs |
| 01:37.37 | abrotman | erm .. where was the file location of the original plugin |
| 01:37.41 | something | the original path was /usr/lib/j2re1.6-sun/plugin/i356/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so |
| 01:38.01 | abrotman | i'd imagine that's outside the normal search path for any browser :) |
| 01:38.04 | xsdg | looks like there's a backbone down and another one that's overloaded |
| 01:38.09 | shyam_k | abrotman: thanks.. /me goes on to downloading the iso:) |
| 01:38.38 | abrotman | xsdg: another train fire in baltimore lit a router on fire? |
| 01:38.47 | xsdg | http://www.internettrafficreport.com/history/212.htm |
| 01:38.49 | xsdg | laughs |
| 01:39.04 | something | not really. that's the java plugin dir |
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| 01:39.14 | something | browsers are usually located at /usr/lib |
| 01:39.16 | shyam_k | its a big gap to avoid synaptic in the first cd.. is that cured now? and say openoffice too.. |
| 01:39.16 | something | for the plugins |
| 01:39.38 | abrotman | i know . that's what i meant |
| 01:39.50 | abrotman | shyam_k: avoid synaptic ? |
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| 01:40.31 | abrotman | it's usually /usr/lib/<browser>/plugins/ |
| 01:40.34 | shyam_k | abrotman: couldnot see synaptic in the iso of first cd downloaded around last july... |
| 01:41.11 | abrotman | shyam_k: so what? aptitude install xorg <foo WM> synaptic <foo DM> |
| 01:41.11 | xsdg | is synaptic even maintained any more? |
| 01:41.14 | abrotman | yes |
| 01:41.18 | abrotman | sadly |
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| 01:41.48 | shyam_k | abrotman: we dont have internet here.. and some may not have dvd drive too:) |
| 01:42.01 | abrotman | shyam_k: then what good will synaptic do you? |
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| 01:42.20 | abrotman | shyam_k: /msg dpkg cd contents |
| 01:42.32 | shyam_k | ops okok:) |
| 01:42.35 | abrotman | shyam_k: i find it hard to believe it's not on the first .. but it should be on the second then |
| 01:42.59 | abrotman | hasn't used it TTBOMK .. |
| 01:43.29 | shyam_k | but some people(non-techies) just fear of taking the terminal at 0 hour:) |
| 01:43.41 | abrotman | should learn some day :) |
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| 01:45.49 | cobol | is it alright if i ask a question *related* to managing debian nodes, but not necessarily about debian itself? the package-specific channel is kinda dead |
| 01:46.14 | abrotman | uh .. just ask and we'll tell you if it's out of whack ? |
| 01:46.23 | cobol | works for me |
| 01:48.00 | cobol | ok so i'm doing a lot of work for a company for which we wrote a web app. and the server count is growing, so i'm starting to worry about maintainability a lot. they're all ubuntu server boxes. for various reasons, i'd like to use ssh keys to manage authentication between service processes (like backups, for example), which wasn't a problem, but i also want to use them to manage access of the admin team to the nodes |
| 01:48.21 | cobol | so this involves deploying a few dozen ssh keys to home directories across multiple nodes, directories which may or may not exist, etc, etc |
| 01:48.33 | abrotman | uh .. #ubuntu ? |
| 01:48.36 | cobol | i just wanted to know if anyone knew of a similar setup, or tools that could make my life easier |
| 01:49.00 | cobol | i dont really think it's ubuntu specific, and i'm pretty sure if anyone else has done it, then probably with debian or redhat... |
| 01:49.19 | abrotman | right .. ##linux or #ubuntu .. create a package that contains the keys and install it on machines when they get setup |
| 01:49.35 | abrotman | and/or setups the users |
| 01:49.40 | cobol | hmm. how woudl you push that package to the nodes remotely |
| 01:49.47 | abrotman | scp? |
| 01:49.52 | abrotman | netcat? :) |
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| 01:50.12 | cobol | so scp it over and then execute a dpkg update remotely? |
| 01:50.13 | abrotman | you can make your own repo and update it jsut as other packages etc |
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| 01:50.46 | cobol | hrm |
| 01:51.05 | abrotman | please don't ask me how to create a repository on ubuntu |
| 01:51.15 | cobol | no, i'm clear on that |
| 01:51.22 | speedy | i cannot see my 16GB of ram in debian lenny amd64 smp kernel, i can only see 8gb of ram, is there anything to be tweaked? |
| 01:51.28 | abrotman | but if you could fix the intarweb .. that'd be great |
| 01:51.40 | cobol | exactly the same way you'd make a custom debian repo :P |
| 01:51.44 | abrotman | speedy: does the BIOS see it all? cat /proc/meminfo ? |
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| 01:51.51 | crashanddie | cobol, or just create a debian repo, install that on each machine at setup, so that when you push an upgrade, you don't have to send the packages through every machine |
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| 01:52.17 | abrotman | cobol: but yeah . your question is kind of offtopic and should go to #ubuntu |
| 01:52.24 | abrotman | well .. not kind of . it is |
| 01:52.24 | speedy | abrotman: MemTotal 8191404 kB |
| 01:52.32 | abrotman | speedy: and BIOS? |
| 01:52.50 | speedy | abrotman: i dont know, its a remote server |
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| 01:52.58 | abrotman | !whats my hardware |
| 01:52.59 | dpkg | You can use lspci, lsusb, lsscsi, lspcmcia, lshal, hwinfo, dmidecode, and/or lshw, or even dmesg to find out what kind of hardware your machine might have, or you could crack the lid and look inside ... oooh, shiny! |
| 01:53.11 | abrotman | dmidecode might be able to tell you |
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| 01:53.26 | minerale | can I have more than 4gb in 32 bit debian? |
| 01:53.33 | abrotman | yes |
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| 01:53.39 | abrotman | !-bigmem |
| 01:53.42 | abrotman | !bigmem |
| 01:53.42 | dpkg | -bigmem linux-images support up to 64GB of ram. If you have more than about 3.4 GB of ram, install and use this to see everything past the sub 1GB limit. |
| 01:54.09 | crashanddie | shouldn't that be "past the sub 4GB limit" ? |
| 01:54.19 | speedy | abrotman: amd64 wont show more than 8GB ? |
| 01:54.32 | abrotman | speedy: amd64 will show 64GB |
| 01:54.48 | abrotman | crashanddie: you send me an i386 with 64GB and i'll let you know :) |
| 01:55.10 | tlmiller | If all your RAM above 6 GB shows listed in TOP is it safe to assume -bigmem is in effect? |
| 01:55.12 | abrotman | speedy: this is why i asked about your BIOS |
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| 01:55.47 | tlmiller | err... above 3.2 GB I meant to say |
| 01:56.00 | crashanddie | abrotman, when are you available for delivery ? |
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| 01:56.35 | abrotman | crashanddie: any time you want :) |
| 01:56.55 | wwasher | ugh -- is there a clean way to recover /var/ after *something* happened to require a manual fsck (that doesn't require reloading the whole silly thing)? |
| 01:57.23 | abrotman | depends what was in there |
| 01:58.03 | speedy | abrotman: it shows i have 4 2GB , range size: 8 GB |
| 01:58.08 | path_ | what would be the next 'testing' name ? |
| 01:58.14 | abrotman | not decided yet |
| 01:58.21 | abrotman | speedy: sounds like you've got 8GB |
| 01:58.37 | wwasher | abrotman - "what was there?" -- me? |
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| 01:58.41 | speedy | thanks abrotman |
| 01:58.42 | abrotman | speedy: does it report your motherboard model that you could check online to see what it supports |
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| 01:58.49 | abrotman | wwasher: like databases etc ? what's missing ? |
| 01:59.05 | wwasher | abrotman - ah, yes, now i understand |
| 01:59.25 | abrotman | wwasher: the stuff should be in the lost+found though |
| 01:59.27 | speedy | well i got Supermicro motherboard-X7DWT, it should support |
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| 01:59.40 | speedy | i can see empty slots with module not installed |
| 01:59.59 | abrotman | speedy: might only be with a certain configuration ? |
| 02:00.07 | abrotman | maybe a ##hardware question? |
| 02:00.46 | speedy | alright, thanks abrotman |
| 02:00.58 | tlmiller | Is there an efficient way to track down what software owns/is responsible for items appearing in /lib32? |
| 02:01.05 | abrotman | speedy: but you're saying it only has four slots showing? |
| 02:01.15 | abrotman | tlmiller: apt-file? dpkg -S |
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| 02:01.56 | wwasher | abrotman -- hm. i don't think there are dbs, and it doesnt have much of a mail setup (any more than default, tho exim is listed as a user in the lost+found). don't know what "chipcard" is (listed as the user there) |
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| 02:03.09 | speedy | abrotman: correct, i'm not sure if the server has actually 16 GB, i've ordeded it from supermicro with 16gb and it just arrived and i saw 8gb |
| 02:03.10 | abrotman | neither do i .. but sounds like a lost mail file (is there a chipcard user?) |
| 02:03.24 | abrotman | speedy: check your PO again |
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| 02:03.52 | speedy | i'm sure about my PO i paid for 16GB |
| 02:03.58 | speedy | thank you for your help |
| 02:04.04 | abrotman | and you're sure the MB supports it? |
| 02:04.10 | abrotman | no matter where you drop the RAM ? |
| 02:04.25 | speedy | i'm not sure of that |
| 02:04.58 | speedy | they claim it supports upto 64GB |
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| 02:05.51 | wwasher | abrotman: hm. thought that might have been a hardware entry or something. (/etc/passwd lists "Chipcard-Tool Daemon Account" -- unfamiliar to me. the box is a (mostly) desktop box); messagebus is in there too. |
| 02:06.07 | speedy | http://www.icc-usa.com/store/pc/configurePrd.asp?idproduct=2482 |
| 02:06.12 | abrotman | wwasher: how many files are in lost+found ? |
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| 02:07.02 | abrotman | speedy: maybe you got a faulty board? do all your CPUs show up? |
| 02:07.20 | abrotman | yeah .. this really is a ##hardware question :) |
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| 02:10.58 | sabayonlive-5012 | is there any command to uninstall a program that you compile from source ? |
| 02:11.22 | SeveredCross | sabayonlive-5012: If you're lucky, their makefile has a make uninstall. |
| 02:12.02 | abrotman | sabayonlive-5012: make uninstall ? |
| 02:12.09 | abrotman | yeah .. i'm slow |
| 02:12.09 | sabayonlive-5012 | let s supose that it doesn t exist ? |
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| 02:12.22 | abrotman | sabayonlive-5012: rm? :) |
| 02:12.24 | something | sabayonlive-5012, make unisntall |
| 02:12.28 | something | uninstall* |
| 02:12.28 | wwasher | abrotman: 129 numbered directory entries, the earliest going back to january of 1985 (!) -- interestingly, none marked with today's date. |
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| 02:12.53 | something | sabayonlive-5012, the MAKE file ins't there? |
| 02:12.53 | SkullCrusher[out | exit |
| 02:12.54 | SeveredCross | sabayonlive-5012: rm. :) |
| 02:13.05 | sabayonlive-5012 | how to create a deb package from source ? |
| 02:13.06 | something | how did you compile it then? |
| 02:13.10 | abrotman | sabayonlive-5012: next time .. look into stow or checkinstall |
| 02:13.12 | abrotman | !mg |
| 02:13.12 | dpkg | A simple packaging walkthrough can be found by (as root) "apt-get install maint-guide" and then (as user) www-browser /usr/share/doc/maint-guide/maint-guide.en.html/index.html" (or http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ online). Also ask me about <nmg>. 'Mg' is also the chemical symbol for magnesium, or may mean Madagascar. |
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| 02:13.49 | wwasher | abrotman: well, not all of them are directories. some of them are individual files. |
| 02:13.52 | MorfeuMX | boa noite |
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| 02:14.21 | MorfeuMX | algum amigo ai GNU pode me tirar uma duvida sobre LTSP? |
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| 02:14.28 | abrotman | !es |
| 02:14.28 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 02:14.32 | abrotman | whoops |
| 02:14.32 | abrotman | !br |
| 02:14.33 | dpkg | Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 02:14.36 | abrotman | MorfeuMX: ^^ |
| 02:14.52 | abrotman | wwasher: the deal is you have to know where to put them back to .. |
| 02:14.53 | speedy | abrotman: yes all cpus are up |
| 02:14.58 | abrotman | speedy: nope .. NFC |
| 02:15.10 | wwasher | abrotman: ugh. thnx. |
| 02:15.18 | abrotman | wwasher: no backups? |
| 02:15.26 | MorfeuMX | I doubt someone can take on LTSP? |
| 02:15.33 | wwasher | abrotman: :) |
| 02:15.35 | abrotman | wwasher: were there any errors in the boot logs ? |
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| 02:15.53 | abrotman | wwasher: files missing etc .. can't start services .. that kind of thing |
| 02:16.21 | rfrank | Hey guys, I'm thinking about using Debian amd64 again, is there still a problem with using flash player? From what I remember, I had to make a 32-bit chroot so I could run flash player; is there any way to get around this now? |
| 02:16.47 | abrotman | rfrank: i already gave you your answer .. and if you paste your poem again, you'll be banned |
| 02:16.57 | rfrank | abrotman: didn't see it |
| 02:17.09 | abrotman | wait .. wrong guy? |
| 02:17.12 | abrotman | anyways .. |
| 02:17.22 | rfrank | yeah you didn't ;P |
| 02:17.33 | abrotman | rfrank: nspluginwrapper, or free kind of working alternatives gnash/swfdec |
| 02:17.36 | sabayonlive-5012 | MorfeuMX: LTSP ou LISP ? |
| 02:17.51 | abrotman | rfrank: sorry .. wasn't you |
| 02:17.57 | MorfeuMX | LTSP |
| 02:18.05 | MorfeuMX | Linux Terminal Server Project |
| 02:18.21 | MorfeuMX | TS for Linux |
| 02:19.43 | tlmiller | MorfeuMX, what is your question? Maybe it's not truly LTSP specific. |
| 02:20.40 | MorfeuMX | I wonder if any wheel LTSP environment X or only some specific him? |
| 02:21.21 | abrotman | him? |
| 02:21.23 | tlmiller | puzzles at the syntax of the question |
| 02:21.40 | abrotman | MorfeuMX: there is a portuguese channel |
| 02:22.13 | abrotman | if that would be easier |
| 02:23.08 | MorfeuMX | LTSP have any X environment? |
| 02:23.29 | tlmiller | I'm poking items in /lib32 [with dpkg -S] and it doesn't seem to give a clear indication of what package put the lib there, am I doing this wrong? |
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| 02:25.04 | tlmiller | MorfeuMX, Have you been here? http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Documentation |
| 02:25.36 | abrotman | tlmiller: which one ? |
| 02:25.48 | sabayonlive-5012 | pool: Stow or Checkinstall ? |
| 02:26.12 | tlmiller | libdl-2.7.so, libcidn-2.7.so, etc |
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| 02:28.22 | tlmiller | I'm not asking for someone to check out what those libs came from; I'm trying to figure out how to quickly discover 'where/what/why' for myself because I know more of them will creep in there as I build upon this amd64 install. |
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| 02:28.58 | abrotman | tlmiller: so if you `dpkg -S libcidn-2.7.so` .. you get nothing ? |
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| 02:31.09 | tlmiller | abrotman, oops... sorry, i am dumb... I get libc6-i386: /emul/ia32-linux/lib/libcidn-2.7.so which is /package/ 'libc6-i386' correct? |
| 02:31.22 | abrotman | yep |
| 02:31.29 | abrotman | but don't tell bob |
| 02:31.48 | tlmiller | not a problem. I don't even know bob |
| 02:32.02 | abrotman | not even one? |
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| 02:32.10 | tlmiller | Nope |
| 02:32.34 | Stumbles | hi, i was wondering if anyone had suggestions for what filesystem to use on a portable drive. I've previously had issues with permissions because user-ids don't match between computers. I do like the advantage of a journaling filesystem though. |
| 02:33.17 | pseubodot | abrotman: wake up! |
| 02:33.34 | abrotman | pseubodot: HI! |
| 02:33.57 | pseubodot | abrotman: HI! |
| 02:34.08 | pseubodot | !abotmansnack |
| 02:34.21 | abrotman | Stumbles: fat32? that's pretty userless :) |
| 02:34.22 | pseubodot | s/bot/brot/ |
| 02:34.58 | abrotman | !abrotmansnack |
| 02:35.02 | abrotman | isn't one |
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| 02:35.16 | pseubodot | he is two! |
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| 02:36.12 | abrotman | !sing abrotman |
| 02:36.13 | dpkg | Oh, do you know abrotman, abrotman, abrotman. Oh, do you know abrotman, he lives on Drury Lane... |
| 02:36.16 | abrotman | that's all you need :) |
| 02:36.55 | hedgehoginfog | what the hell is this? O_o |
| 02:36.56 | tlmiller | watches for the men in white suits |
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| 02:37.17 | abrotman | wonders what a hedgehoginfog looks like |
| 02:37.35 | tlmiller | good eatin' probably |
| 02:37.46 | hedgehoginfog | is looking up a movie on youtube for abrotman |
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| 02:38.44 | hedgehoginfog | abrotman, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZS1fLK4DYM |
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| 02:39.53 | abrotman | creepy film |
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| 02:40.28 | hedgehoginfog | no, not at all |
| 02:40.30 | tlmiller | Do people in this channel write source code for debian and if so, is there any must have/read/watch for someone just getting started? |
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| 02:41.20 | hedgehoginfog | billions of soviet children have been raised on it :) |
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| 02:42.28 | abrotman | i'm scared |
| 02:42.36 | abrotman | tlmiller: some of them do |
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| 02:43.15 | abrotman | hedgehoginfog: i think it'd be better if it were dubbed instead of subtitleed |
| 02:43.27 | hedgehoginfog | maybe subtitles scared you |
| 02:43.32 | hedgehoginfog | yeah |
| 02:43.36 | null | Whoever it was in this channel that recommended I run sid because it is 'fun' to fix things, I hate you. |
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| 02:43.55 | hedgehoginfog | lol |
| 02:44.18 | tlmiller | Someone needs to brush up on sarcasm interpretation. |
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| 02:44.43 | hedgehoginfog | anyway hedgehoginfog (or rather hedgehog in THE fog) was as popular a cartoon character as Cheburashka was :) |
| 02:45.13 | abrotman | null: whomever did that should be shot |
| 02:45.16 | null | Haha |
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| 02:46.29 | null | To be honest, etch was absurdly antiquated for my package needs. Sid fixed that. Sort of. |
| 02:46.42 | abrotman | but no workie! |
| 02:46.50 | null | Partially! |
| 02:47.09 | tlmiller | I dunno I think it's kind of fun to work through a broken system - provided it's not so broke that you have to wait for code check-in's to fix what you're up against. |
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| 02:47.31 | null | madwifiheadaches which basically boil down to "it's unstable with debian unstable!" and it's pretty hard to revert to 18.6 with the hodgepodge of unstable packages on my system. |
| 02:48.01 | abrotman | use ath5k ? |
| 02:48.11 | tlmiller | Wouldn't changing your sources.list back to stable and doing an dist-upgrade clean 'em all out? |
| 02:48.22 | abrotman | hardly |
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| 02:48.54 | tlmiller | So you can go forward but never backwards... |
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| 02:49.13 | null | Played with that all day. No workie. |
| 02:49.16 | abrotman | you can try .. but it might not work |
| 02:49.22 | null | tlmiller: Would it? |
| 02:49.41 | null | As I know it. |
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| 02:50.16 | null | Well I just gave up and ran 50 feet of ethernet upstairs. |
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| 02:51.29 | null | At least I can do some email and then sleep. |
| 02:51.29 | null | Oh and python's borke due to the apt-get upgrade I did 30 minutes ago. *sigh* |
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| 02:51.47 | unop | if you create an offline repository to use. is it normal for aptitude to warn you about untrusted packages being installed? |
| 02:52.26 | abrotman | if there's no key file that matches one in the keyring |
| 02:53.01 | unop | abrotman, well that's what i thought, but all the packages in it are from the official repos .. and i have the keyring packages installed. |
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| 02:53.22 | abrotman | but did you get the key file ? |
| 02:53.53 | unop | abrotman, i don't think i have .. should i have? |
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| 02:54.15 | abrotman | that's probably why it's whining i'd guess |
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| 02:54.32 | unop | ok, so how do i get the key file ? |
| 02:54.37 | abrotman | wget ? |
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| 02:56.34 | unop | abrotman, errm, i don't get this .. these are debian packages - from debian's repos - and don't the debian-keyring and debian-archive-keyring packages take care of this? |
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| 02:57.31 | abrotman | http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/Debian4.0r4a/Release.gpg |
| 02:57.37 | abrotman | or whichever you're using |
| 02:57.56 | abrotman | just a guess anyways .. i might be barking up the wrong street sign |
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| 02:58.16 | pickcoder | at least it's not a tree |
| 02:58.23 | abrotman | splinters |
| 02:58.23 | pickcoder | the squirrels could attack |
| 02:58.41 | unop | abrotman, ok, will try this out - i have a feeling you are barking up the right sign tho .. thanks :) |
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| 03:21.38 | jimisrvrox_ | hey all the readme files in the doc dir are posted on the deb website right? |
| 03:21.56 | stew | not afaik |
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| 03:22.32 | enouf | jimisrvrox_: what? |
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| 03:23.05 | jimisrvrox_ | hey all the readme files in the doc dir are posted on the deb website right? |
| 03:23.11 | enouf | jimisrvrox_: what? |
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| 03:23.34 | jimisrvrox_ | nevermind dude |
| 03:24.07 | jimisrvrox_ | are the readme files located in the /usr/doc directory on the debian website? |
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| 03:24.26 | enouf | no files are on the debian website |
| 03:24.37 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:24.48 | enouf | no specific pkg contents |
| 03:25.10 | enouf | the listing of those files is |
| 03:25.36 | enouf | but many files are created from pkg .postinst scripts and therefore are not listed as part of the "pkg" |
| 03:26.23 | enouf | jimisrvrox_: it's /usr/share/doc most times.. why? that i'm not sure about |
| 03:27.30 | jimisrvrox_ | becauise I want to read the docs while Im at work and have nothing better to do...I dont nkow how to ssh into my box here and I dont have a usb stick to upload them to |
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| 03:34.46 | minerale | sorry |
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| 04:04.13 | s0lid | i hope this will not flame up to something but... i need the best DNS ins terms of security and scalability |
| 04:04.59 | xsdg | so much fun! |
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| 04:05.49 | xsdg | s0lid: bind9, as packaged, doesn't cache, so you should be fine |
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| 04:12.20 | Nyle | hey |
| 04:12.25 | Nyle | what the hell |
| 04:12.32 | Nyle | stop that |
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| 04:13.31 | Nyle | hey!!!! |
| 04:13.35 | Nyle | enouf, asshole |
| 04:13.59 | Nyle | enouf, enouf enouf enouf enouf enouf enouf enouf enouf |
| 04:14.07 | Nyle | :( |
| 04:14.33 | enouf | what!? |
| 04:14.56 | enouf | prods Nyle .. again |
| 04:15.01 | Nyle | dude |
| 04:15.02 | Nyle | msg |
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| 04:16.27 | enouf | jimisrvrox_: learn how to ssh into your boxen |
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| 04:22.00 | jon___ | s0lid: then do the research necessary to determine the best dns for your purpose |
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| 04:23.54 | pothibo_ | Is there a nice howto out there to make a debian server a router ? |
| 04:24.21 | jon___ | there are many kinds of routers, and many net situations |
| 04:24.35 | jon___ | describe your situation |
| 04:25.07 | jon___ | on the other hand, look for "rustys unreliable guides" |
| 04:26.19 | pothibo_ | ok, I have a small LAN in my flat, 3 laptops, 1 old pc, I want this pc to become a router I have 2 ethernet card and 1 wifi card.. I have a gentoo howto here, but the files are not the same so I'm getting confused |
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| 04:28.37 | Supaplex | that's because gentoo isn't debian |
| 04:29.34 | Supaplex | they write some pretty good guides, but there are differences on package management and where config files are etc. use wiki.debian.org as a baseline for debian, or - ask a specific question here. |
| 04:29.36 | pothibo_ | Supaplex: I don't learn anything new there, what I mean is that I use this howto to try to understand how to set up my router |
| 04:29.42 | jon___ | so you want to do NAT aka masquerading? |
| 04:29.54 | pothibo_ | yeah |
| 04:29.56 | pothibo_ | think so. |
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| 04:30.10 | Supaplex | !think |
| 04:30.10 | dpkg | Don't think. KNOW. |
| 04:30.31 | Supaplex | you have one public ip? a routed public subnet? |
| 04:30.34 | jon___ | that' |
| 04:30.45 | jon___ | is the stupidest thing I ever heard dpkg say |
| 04:30.48 | pothibo_ | yes 1 public IP and I want all computers to connect to my debian server |
| 04:31.09 | Supaplex | !ipmasq |
| 04:31.09 | dpkg | If all you want is NAT (internet connection sharing), aptitude install ipmasq; and be happy. Otherwise learn about it at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/index.html |
| 04:31.11 | jon___ | if you think you want something, that should be no problem: try it and see if it meets your needs |
| 04:31.42 | jon___ | don't EVER llisten to anyone saying "don't think" |
| 04:32.17 | pothibo_ | jon___: hehe thinking is how we got where we are now... not doing so would be self-destructive |
| 04:32.44 | jon___ | it's really a shortcut |
| 04:33.12 | jon___ | it's for helpers, who would get frustrated if you think one thing and it turns out to not be the case |
| 04:33.29 | jon___ | I'm pretty sure what is meant is: don't guess on the facts |
| 04:33.35 | infinity_ | how many people use lilo? anyone? |
| 04:34.08 | Supaplex | !tell infinity_ -about popcon |
| 04:34.14 | infinity_ | ahh. good idea |
| 04:34.18 | infinity_ | tnx |
| 04:34.24 | jon___ | how many people do you expect to have answer you out of the 800 here? :) |
| 04:34.58 | Supaplex | the correct answer is 0+ |
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| 04:35.27 | pothibo_ | jon___: so what I'm looking at is IP Masquerading ? as soon as the router gets connected to my cable modem it will get his Public IP through dhcp and will distribute the information accross the LAN ? |
| 04:35.35 | massmc | how do i set up a ssh box for multiple accounts? |
| 04:35.45 | jon___ | pothibo_: so there's a thing called ipmasq, which is a combination of a general setup for routers and a specific setup for ipmasqing routers |
| 04:36.13 | Supaplex | massmc: apt-get install ssh? |
| 04:36.47 | jon___ | basically what it does is, look at all your interfaces that are up, figure out which one(s) are outgoing, and then calculate a router and implement it |
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| 04:37.01 | jon___ | you can also cause it to recalculate |
| 04:37.02 | massmc | Supaplex: I have done that, but how do I make it that i'm able to add more user accounts except just one |
| 04:37.14 | pothibo_ | jon___: I have bad experiences with things that Just Work (tm) |
| 04:37.14 | Supaplex | massmc: adduser |
| 04:37.16 | jon___ | which you would have to do when (say) an IP address changes |
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| 04:37.39 | Nyle | hey |
| 04:37.44 | Nyle | I installed emacs package |
| 04:37.49 | Nyle | and I typed emacs on command line |
| 04:37.54 | Nyle | and I got a X window! |
| 04:37.56 | Nyle | why come? |
| 04:37.58 | massmc | Supaplex: the box wont allow me to add more than 1 user through shell |
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| 04:38.35 | jon___ | pothibo_: what do you have to lose? all you have to do is configure your interfaces and install the package... if it doesn't work, you can remove it |
| 04:38.37 | prolix | massmc: vim /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 04:38.46 | Nyle | hey hey hey hey hey |
| 04:38.51 | Nyle | can you run the emacs in command line? |
| 04:38.56 | jon___ | sure |
| 04:39.07 | jon___ | this command line... |
| 04:39.29 | pothibo_ | jon___: true, well I'm actually trying it out... the config file is shared between modules ppp and rules ? |
| 04:39.35 | jon___ | was typed into a shell, this shell was running inside a terminal emulator... which terminal emulator? |
| 04:39.58 | jon___ | not sure about that part |
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| 04:40.33 | s0lid | xsdg, thanks |
| 04:40.43 | Supaplex | massmc: you want to add more than one at a time? |
| 04:40.46 | jon___ | are you saying that since pppd can cause your outgoing interface to be assigned a different IP, you might want to recalculate the firewall? |
| 04:41.06 | jon___ | I think there's a way to do that |
| 04:41.08 | xsdg | s0lid: np |
| 04:41.25 | jon___ | but first things first: let's see if it works for you |
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| 04:41.51 | massmc | Supaplex: well just wanted to experiment with it so ppl can log in with own accounts after i add them |
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| 04:42.09 | jon___ | Nyle: |
| 04:42.14 | jon___ | this command line... |
| 04:42.17 | Supaplex | massmc: you'll have to adduser them one at a time |
| 04:42.20 | jon___ | was typed into a shell, this shell was running inside a terminal emulator... which terminal emulator? |
| 04:43.06 | zeeble | Nyle: there's a emacs21-nox package. |
| 04:43.16 | Nyle | oh |
| 04:43.33 | jon___ | or, you can unset DISPLWY |
| 04:43.46 | jon___ | err and spel displwy rite |
| 04:43.49 | zeeble | Nyle: or, you can do emacs -nw |
| 04:44.05 | zeeble | Nyle: well, emacs -nw FileYouWantToOpen |
| 04:44.18 | zeeble | Nyle: read the emacs howto or something :\ |
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| 04:44.26 | zeeble | C-x C-h |
| 04:44.57 | massmc | Supaplex: i have added a new user, when i log into it, it goes directly to my main user rather than asking for user name then pass |
| 04:45.21 | zeeble | did you set a password? |
| 04:45.29 | zeeble | do passwd username |
| 04:45.33 | zeeble | and set a password :s |
| 04:45.40 | Nyle | ok |
| 04:45.46 | Nyle | !emacs |
| 04:45.46 | dpkg | emacs is the extensible macro editor that is already quite extensively extended. A popular editor choice with major and minor modes for almost every conceivable language and task. High priests of emacs have even been known to use emacs as their shell, and sometimes have whole systems with init=/usr/bin/emacs. [Escape Meta Alt Control Shift], or http://emacswiki.org/, #emacs @ irc.freenode.net |
| 04:46.16 | prolix | heh |
| 04:46.26 | jon___ | you do understand that emacs will start itself in a window if invoked from a shell running in anything like an xterm? |
| 04:46.53 | jon___ | certain other conditions must hold for that to happen as well |
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| 04:51.06 | pothibo_ | jon___: As I haven't found much info on ip masq, I am looking at this tutorial: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=376283 what do you thiink ? |
| 04:51.27 | jon___ | you don't need to do any of that |
| 04:51.33 | jon___ | just install ipmasq |
| 04:51.35 | jon___ | -done- |
| 04:51.47 | enouf | !ipmasq |
| 04:51.48 | dpkg | If all you want is NAT (internet connection sharing), aptitude install ipmasq; and be happy. Otherwise learn about it at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/index.html |
| 04:51.59 | pothibo_ | hmmm.. ok |
| 04:52.12 | jon___ | you can, you don't have to |
| 04:52.45 | darrh00 | I reported a bug and the bug is closed : We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version ,which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive, so How can I get these latest files without having to wait the mirror to get updated?where is Debian FTP archive? is it publicly accessible? |
| 04:52.54 | jon___ | you can also see what the general infrastructure of ipmasq is and how you can take advantage of it |
| 04:52.57 | pothibo_ | jon___: how do I set up my wireless card to work with ipmasq then ? |
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| 04:53.15 | jon___ | all you have to do is set up the interface |
| 04:53.19 | jon___ | get the wireless working |
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| 04:53.49 | jon___ | get somethign other than the router box connected via wireless thru that router |
| 04:53.55 | jon___ | get it pingable |
| 04:54.17 | jon___ | once you have that, ipmasq will work |
| 04:54.45 | jon___ | say you want to work on wireless last, and get everything else going first |
| 04:54.47 | pothibo_ | ok, I'll try, I'm connecting my linux box directly to my cable modem, and i'll try it if it works |
| 04:54.49 | jon___ | you can do that |
| 04:55.05 | pothibo_ | if I can get it to work through wire.. I'll move onto wireless |
| 04:55.14 | enouf | darrh00: which bug? |
| 04:55.39 | jon___ | get the router box up, install an irc client on it, come here |
| 04:55.42 | darrh00 | enouf:496816 |
| 04:55.47 | jon___ | if you want earlier help that is\ |
| 04:57.57 | pothibo_ | can't: it has no screen hehe I'll give it a try, if it works I'll come back |
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| 04:58.55 | Scrambles | Anybody seeing high load averages at idle on debian stable after the latest kernel security update? |
| 04:58.56 | enouf | darrh00: i don't even see it uploaded yet - so please be patient |
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| 04:59.24 | enouf | darrh00: atleast it was taken care of very quickly ;-) |
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| 05:00.16 | Scrambles | I've tracked it down to apcupsd, I think. |
| 05:00.24 | pothibo_ | back |
| 05:00.33 | darrh00 | enouf:yes!thanks!I'll wait then. |
| 05:01.04 | jon___ | pothibo_: how'd it go? |
| 05:01.34 | enouf | darrh00: i got it - it's in incoming .. http://incoming.debian.org/pcmanx-gtk2_0.3.8-2_i386.deb |
| 05:01.41 | jon___ | oic, can you put a screen on it temporarylike? |
| 05:02.06 | pothibo_ | jon___: well.. can't tell hehe figured I can't even see what's going on.. I need to make sure I can connect to my box.. as it has no screen.. if I can set up the LAN properly.. then I could check it out |
| 05:02.17 | enouf | hope it was i386 arch you wanted :-) |
| 05:02.37 | jon___ | ok, so what's it connected to now? |
| 05:02.43 | pothibo_ | to my lan |
| 05:02.44 | darrh00 | enouf:That's great! I forgot "incoming". |
| 05:02.44 | jon___ | let's just do it from where it lies |
| 05:02.49 | pothibo_ | I have access to it through ssh |
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| 05:03.35 | jon___ | do you have a spare machine you can test things with starting with a wired connection? |
| 05:03.47 | pothibo_ | yes but it's running on Windows |
| 05:04.36 | jon___ | set up to get ip address thru dhcp? |
| 05:04.58 | pothibo_ | yes |
| 05:05.28 | jon___ | that should be ok... so we need to install a coupla things on the router box |
| 05:05.43 | jon___ | a dncp server and a dns server |
| 05:06.05 | pothibo_ | it's done, I have dnsmasq |
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| 05:06.15 | pothibo_ | but its not working properly |
| 05:06.32 | jon___ | does that forward to another "real" dns? |
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| 05:07.32 | jon___ | ok, so if the router box is working, use the ssh connection to it and see what's in /etc/resolv.conf |
| 05:08.00 | pothibo_ | ok |
| 05:08.03 | pothibo_ | hold on |
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| 05:08.38 | jon___ | and howbout let's see the first nameserver line |
| 05:10.34 | jeffspeff | hello everybody, i'm looking to make a consumer review site, are there any recommendations of a template or script or something? |
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| 05:13.05 | TiMiDo | hey i have a question how do i bring up a wireless. interface with the keyt? |
| 05:15.48 | pothibo_ | jon___: okay different issue, now I have put a screen on my box (that's why it took a while) fired up eth0 and now I have loads of stuff comin on the screen but I can't ping my box... |
| 05:16.01 | pothibo_ | but I have access to it directly, just connected a keyboard as well |
| 05:16.14 | pothibo_ | sry I'm juggling with ya |
| 05:16.19 | jon___ | turn ipmasq off for a moment (/etc/init.d/ipmasq stop) |
| 05:16.24 | pothibo_ | ok |
| 05:16.44 | pothibo_ | done |
| 05:16.50 | pothibo_ | I got the ping back |
| 05:16.52 | jon___ | still getting crap? |
| 05:16.56 | jon___ | you can ping? |
| 05:17.04 | pothibo_ | yes can pin and no more crap |
| 05:17.38 | TiMiDo | hey i have a question how do i bring up a wireless. interface with the keyt? |
| 05:17.43 | jon___ | ok, I can't tell your machines without a score card... we talking about what you want as the router? |
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| 05:18.00 | pothibo_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:18.11 | jon___ | on the router? |
| 05:18.13 | null | Question: Is it possible to revert from sid to etch? 18.6 is still the only kernel that runs ok for me :( |
| 05:18.16 | jon___ | what is the router's address? |
| 05:18.18 | pothibo_ | jon___: yes |
| 05:18.41 | pothibo_ | right now it is 192.168.0.102 (behind the router because I need to keep it connected) |
| 05:19.05 | jon___ | and the present router is 192.168.0.1? |
| 05:19.09 | pothibo_ | yes |
| 05:19.22 | TiMiDo | hey i have a question how do i bring up a wireless. interface with the keyt? |
| 05:19.25 | TiMiDo | by command line/ |
| 05:19.39 | null | TiMiDo: sudo ifconfig ath0 up |
| 05:19.41 | jon___ | ok, so your existing router is eithner running a dns or forwarding to a dns discovered by dhcp |
| 05:19.47 | pothibo_ | TiMiDo: ifup eth |
| 05:19.59 | TiMiDo | Ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0. |
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| 05:20.06 | pothibo_ | jon___: forwarding I suppose |
| 05:20.22 | jon___ | and that's working right now? |
| 05:20.25 | pothibo_ | TiMiDo: sudo ifconfig wlan0 up |
| 05:20.52 | pothibo_ | jon___: yes, well D-Link router has dhcp erver turned on, I forgot, but it doesn't have a dns server from what I recall |
| 05:20.56 | jon___ | two cases: is it working from your router box |
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| 05:21.16 | pothibo_ | no dhcp nor dns server running on my router box |
| 05:21.21 | jon___ | ok |
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| 05:22.13 | jon___ | including your router, your other router and the win box you're using for testing, how many boxes you have? |
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| 05:22.43 | pothibo_ | in the final stage once everything works, 4 including my debian router |
| 05:22.59 | pothibo_ | but more should be able to connect (friend comin over, etc) |
| 05:23.02 | jon___ | howbout now? |
| 05:23.14 | jon___ | yeah, more should be able to connect. |
| 05:23.28 | pothibo_ | right now only router( dlink) debian box and this laptop |
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| 05:23.41 | jon___ | and the laptop is running win? |
| 05:23.44 | pothibo_ | no |
| 05:23.47 | pothibo_ | all linux right now |
| 05:23.53 | pothibo_ | all the other laptops are turned off |
| 05:24.04 | jon___ | ok, we need names... I'm too confused |
| 05:24.21 | pothibo_ | dlink is dlink router |
| 05:24.33 | jon___ | howbout: debgw |
| 05:24.34 | pothibo_ | jupiter is debian server that will become the router and titan is my laptop |
| 05:24.36 | jon___ | and laptop |
| 05:24.45 | pothibo_ | oh ok |
| 05:24.48 | pothibo_ | fine by me ;0 |
| 05:24.53 | jon___ | well ok |
| 05:24.59 | jon___ | let's use your names |
| 05:25.12 | pothibo_ | ok they are their real names |
| 05:25.15 | jon___ | dlink, jupiter, titan |
| 05:25.43 | jon___ | now dlink is going to be out of the picture later, yes? |
| 05:25.47 | pothibo_ | yes |
| 05:25.53 | jon___ | ok, just making sure. |
| 05:26.10 | pothibo_ | it's too limited, only 4 connection simultaneously |
| 05:26.16 | jon___ | here's what I think you could do to prepare jupiter |
| 05:26.32 | jon___ | install a dns (howbout apt-get install bind9 |
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| 05:26.43 | pothibo_ | i'll remove dnsmasq then |
| 05:26.44 | jon___ | install a dhcp server and get it working |
| 05:26.46 | jon___ | test it |
| 05:27.00 | pothibo_ | ok |
| 05:27.14 | pothibo_ | I'm all ears, bind9 is installed |
| 05:27.25 | jon___ | on jupiter? |
| 05:27.47 | pothibo_ | yup |
| 05:28.10 | jon___ | ok, supposedly you could change jupiter's resolv.conf so it points at itself |
| 05:28.16 | jon___ | and it should get out |
| 05:28.20 | pothibo_ | dhcp server installed |
| 05:28.27 | pothibo_ | ok |
| 05:28.27 | jon___ | ping yahoo.com should work |
| 05:28.48 | pothibo_ | using 127.0.0.1 or 192.168.0.102 ? |
| 05:29.23 | jon___ | actually... I'd do it like this: |
| 05:29.35 | jon___ | apt-get install resolvconf |
| 05:29.48 | jon___ | then edit /etc/network/interfaces |
| 05:30.05 | pothibo_ | done |
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| 05:30.19 | jon___ | and on the interface with a gw (which one is that?), put a line: |
| 05:30.22 | null | Question: Is it possible to revert from sid to etch? 18.6 is still the only kernel that runs ok for me :( |
| 05:30.33 | pothibo_ | eth0 |
| 05:30.49 | null | It looks like changing sources.list would work in giving me the 18.6 kernel sources i need |
| 05:31.01 | Jyzygzy- | null you cannot go back |
| 05:31.05 | null | o? |
| 05:31.06 | jon___ | (tabkey)dns-nameservers 127.0.0.1 |
| 05:31.23 | null | Jyzygzy-: But I just upgraded and that broke my wifi due to madwifi bugs and pythong breakage |
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| 05:31.47 | Jyzygzy- | so just fix those |
| 05:31.52 | jon___ | did you back up before yo upgraded? |
| 05:31.55 | null | There's no fix |
| 05:31.59 | null | No |
| 05:32.01 | pothibo_ | jon___: done |
| 05:32.23 | jon___ | ok, you're sshed in from the laptop? |
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| 05:32.34 | pothibo_ | no |
| 05:32.49 | jon___ | oh that's right, you have a temp screen on it |
| 05:32.52 | null | I need to upgrade before I can back up... don't have the available kernel sources to install truecrypt to restore failed hdd infrastructure to back up onto |
| 05:33.00 | pothibo_ | i'm sitted on the floor with the keyboard for jupiter next to me with a screen on the ground connected to jupiter |
| 05:33.19 | pothibo_ | I look a bit retarded, but it's okay with me ;) |
| 05:33.30 | null | pothibo_: we're all a bit retarded here :) |
| 05:33.48 | pothibo_ | ifup ifdown eth0 makes it hang on DHCPACK from 192.168.0.1 |
| 05:34.04 | pothibo_ | null: :) |
| 05:34.10 | jon___ | cool (sounds uncomfortable... you ok in that position?) |
| 05:34.20 | pothibo_ | yeh I'm 100% |
| 05:34.40 | pothibo_ | it's more that i'm sleepy, it's 1:30AM here |
| 05:34.46 | pothibo_ | but it's okay I want to get done with it |
| 05:34.56 | jon___ | so it hangs... |
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| 05:35.26 | pothibo_ | yes |
| 05:35.38 | jon___ | try ifdown eth0 then ifup eth0 |
| 05:35.44 | pothibo_ | I did it hangs |
| 05:36.03 | jon___ | ok, we need to find out why... |
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| 05:36.21 | jon___ | look at your /var/log/messages |
| 05:36.26 | jon___ | any clue there? |
| 05:36.40 | jon___ | at the very bottom of that file |
| 05:36.59 | pothibo_ | nothing |
| 05:37.14 | jon___ | ok, try /var/log/daemon.log |
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| 05:37.21 | pothibo_ | last line is a succesful ifup 25 min ago |
| 05:37.37 | jon___ | in daemon.log? |
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| 05:37.50 | pothibo_ | no errors |
| 05:38.03 | jon___ | last line of? |
| 05:38.43 | null | fuck it, i'm dist-upgrading on sid before going to sleep tonight. |
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| 05:39.04 | pothibo_ | just the same thing as I saw which is: jupiter dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 255.255.255.255 port 7 interval 8 \ DHCPOFFER frin 192,168.0.1 \ DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 \ DHCPACK from 192,168.0.1 |
| 05:39.21 | pothibo_ | jon___: last thing I wrote is from daemon.log |
| 05:39.48 | pothibo_ | if up hang, but I can ping |
| 05:39.51 | pothibo_ | ifup* |
| 05:39.58 | pothibo_ | I ping google |
| 05:40.17 | jon___ | so it's hanging after that |
| 05:40.27 | pothibo_ | yes |
| 05:40.33 | pothibo_ | maybe bind9 |
| 05:40.44 | null | pothibo_: how did you paste that on one line with \ as breaks? |
| 05:40.53 | jon___ | try this: dig @127.0.0.1 google.com |
| 05:40.59 | pothibo_ | yes |
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| 05:41.29 | pothibo_ | hmm weird, everything hangs |
| 05:41.34 | jon___ | null: qhite possibly by actually editing it by hand :) |
| 05:41.39 | pothibo_ | stopping bind9 hangs, dig hangs |
| 05:41.48 | pothibo_ | oh dig worked actually |
| 05:42.04 | jon___ | did it report the address of google? |
| 05:42.14 | pothibo_ | no servers could be reached |
| 05:42.37 | pothibo_ | I think the problem is bind working... |
| 05:42.56 | jon___ | wait, no servers? |
| 05:43.10 | pothibo_ | jon___: no server |
| 05:43.15 | jon___ | this is getting messy |
| 05:43.34 | pothibo_ | lol how surprised do you think I am... |
| 05:43.46 | null | pothibo_: don't misunderestimate the crappyness of your (pat switch/)router. i spent hours troubleshooting what was an unreleased dhcp addy from my dd-wrt micro router |
| 05:44.16 | jon___ | ok, howbout this... |
| 05:44.26 | pothibo_ | hang on, it's reboot time for mr. Jupiter |
| 05:44.29 | jon___ | wait |
| 05:44.31 | jon___ | wait |
| 05:44.42 | pothibo_ | oops |
| 05:44.47 | jon___ | you' |
| 05:44.55 | pothibo_ | moron ? |
| 05:45.08 | jon___ | re on jupiter now on an irc cllent installed on jupiter? |
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| 05:45.23 | pothibo_ | no I'm on titan here chatting |
| 05:45.27 | pothibo_ | jupiter has no irc client |
| 05:45.34 | null | pothibo_: can you follow a tcpdump stream and if so, any worthwhile info? |
| 05:46.00 | jon___ | could you install an irc client on jupiter? |
| 05:46.05 | pothibo_ | Im afraid I can't |
| 05:46.07 | pothibo_ | bitchx |
| 05:46.09 | pothibo_ | is installed |
| 05:46.20 | jon___ | on jupiter? good |
| 05:46.37 | jon___ | if that's the case... |
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| 05:47.06 | jon___ | remove dlink, put jupiter where dlink was and reboot jupiter |
| 05:47.12 | jon___ | then try to get back here |
| 05:47.29 | jon___ | if that doesmn't work, restore then get back here |
| 05:48.00 | pothibo_ | ok |
| 05:48.03 | pothibo_ | give me a sec |
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| 05:48.19 | pothibo | made sure bitchx was woring properly |
| 05:48.24 | pothibo | brb |
| 05:48.33 | jon___ | good thinknig |
| 05:48.35 | jon___ | ing |
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| 05:51.17 | nirupama | how to mount init |
| 05:52.44 | jon___ | "mount" doesn't make sense for init |
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| 05:53.25 | pothibo__ | hi |
| 05:53.27 | pothibo__ | not working, can't find DHCP info |
| 05:53.40 | pothibo__ | so I guess I have a fix ip ? but how does the router got the proper information ? |
| 05:54.07 | nirupama | jon___, so how can I see the content of init |
| 05:54.10 | jon___ | can'tfind dncp info? describe |
| 05:54.28 | pothibo__ | DHCPDISCOVER resquests all the interval possible |
| 05:54.31 | pothibo__ | without finding any |
| 05:54.39 | pothibo__ | No DHCPOffers received |
| 05:54.45 | pothibo__ | I stopped after 5 of them |
| 05:54.49 | jon___ | ok |
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| 05:55.05 | jon___ | but your dlink can connect fine? |
| 05:55.15 | pothibo__ | yup |
| 05:55.39 | jon___ | did you put a hostname and passwd in the dlink? |
| 05:55.44 | pothibo__ | no |
| 05:55.47 | pothibo__ | never |
| 05:55.48 | jon___ | hmm |
| 05:56.20 | jon___ | link lights on when you try discovering? |
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| 05:56.23 | pothibo__ | could the nameserver 127.0.0.1 in interfaces could be the problem? the loopback makes it impossible to search outside the computer ? |
| 05:57.08 | jon___ | no, that's just names, it only applies when you're connected |
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| 05:57.26 | pothibo__ | well didn't look if it was flashing... |
| 05:57.37 | pothibo__ | I'll retry ? |
| 05:57.42 | jon___ | one sec |
| 05:57.49 | pothibo__ | k |
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| 05:58.03 | jon___ | what's behind the dlink |
| 05:58.22 | pothibo__ | cable modem |
| 05:58.44 | jon___ | does the dlink do pppoe? |
| 05:58.48 | pothibo__ | no |
| 05:58.49 | pothibo__ | adsl |
| 05:59.06 | jon___ | oh, and you don't have a dsl, true? |
| 05:59.28 | jon___ | so that part isn't actually functioning |
| 06:00.00 | pothibo__ | what do you mean |
| 06:00.15 | jon___ | do you have cable internet or dsl internet? |
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| 06:00.48 | pothibo__ | well I said dsl, I'm sorry... I thought it was the term... I have cable internet |
| 06:00.55 | pothibo__ | with a cable modem |
| 06:00.58 | lkthomas | guys |
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| 06:01.01 | jon___ | ok |
| 06:01.04 | lkthomas | I try to config dhcp server to eth0 |
| 06:01.10 | swirl_red | how to modify my bashrc so colorful leaves? someone may say or give me documentation |
| 06:01.15 | lkthomas | but I keep getting No subnet declaration for eth0 (0.0.0.0). |
| 06:01.18 | lkthomas | anyone have idea why ? |
| 06:01.29 | kgoetz | swirl_red: leaves? |
| 06:01.31 | jon___ | you have to have a declaration for each interface |
| 06:01.49 | jon___ | even if it doesn't serve that interface |
| 06:01.52 | kgoetz | lkthomas: you havent configured a dhcp range on the same network space as eth0 |
| 06:03.19 | jon___ | pothibo__: ok... by what type of wire does the cable modem connect to dlink? |
| 06:03.33 | pothibo__ | cable, the round one like you use for you tv |
| 06:03.36 | swirl_red | kgoetz, I do not understand who said to me? |
| 06:03.52 | lkthomas | I see |
| 06:03.54 | kgoetz | swirl_red: i dont understand your question |
| 06:03.55 | jon___ | that's how the incoming cable connects |
| 06:03.59 | lkthomas | yeah, fix that and works, thanks |
| 06:04.05 | jon___ | look at the question again |
| 06:04.24 | pothibo__ | sry, my bad, rj45 |
| 06:04.38 | jon___ | so, an eth cable |
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| 06:04.43 | pothibo__ | yup |
| 06:05.10 | jon___ | if you take either end and disconnect for a quick second, do you see a light change on the cable modem? |
| 06:05.10 | swirl_red | kgoetz, Customized as my bash my terminal to put them as live cd that bring the colorful soon |
| 06:05.18 | pothibo__ | I don't get it, I use titan and connect it the same way as jupiter and it would work right away |
| 06:05.30 | pothibo__ | hold on |
| 06:05.55 | pothibo__ | yeah 1 light stop blinbking |
| 06:05.56 | kgoetz | swirl_red: i have no idea what your asking :/ |
| 06:06.27 | jon___ | ok, do you also see a light on dlink that changes when you do that? |
| 06:06.52 | swirl_red | kgoetz, OK, thanks not worry |
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| 06:08.26 | pothibo__ | jon___: yes |
| 06:08.28 | pothibo__ | sry i'm back |
| 06:08.47 | jon___ | ok, cool... I was just seeing if you accidently disconnected |
| 06:08.48 | pothibo__ | both are acting the same way, stop blinking when d/c and restart blinking right away when reconnected |
| 06:08.55 | pothibo__ | yeah I saw the ping :) |
| 06:09.17 | jon___ | ok... hmmm... |
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| 06:09.38 | jon___ | so we're going to try the switch one more time... |
| 06:09.43 | jon___ | here's what you're going to do |
| 06:10.05 | jon___ | take out dlink, put jupiter there, reboot jupiter |
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| 06:11.53 | pothibo__ | jon___: before we do this I just found something odd: if I type: /etc/init.d/bind9 stop it gives me the following error: bindrndc: connect failed: 127.0.0.1#953: connection refused FAILED! |
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| 06:12.25 | jon___ | pothibo__: sounds like bind9 wasn't running at the time] |
| 06:12.38 | pothibo__ | ok |
| 06:12.48 | jon___ | oh, one more thing |
| 06:12.53 | pothibo__ | ok |
| 06:13.38 | lkthomas | guys, if I want to route 192.168.100.1 packet to 192.168.1.1, what should I do ? |
| 06:14.13 | jon___ | make sure when you connect the eth cable from cable modem to jupiter, you get that light behavior... but you might not get it until the point in the reboot when it brings the interfaces up |
| 06:14.25 | pothibo__ | ok |
| 06:14.34 | pothibo__ | brb on bitchx hopefully |
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| 06:23.25 | pothibo_ | i'm doomed... nohing works still hanging at dhcpdiscover |
| 06:23.53 | jon___ | so you're rebooting jupiter |
| 06:24.10 | jon___ | yes? |
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| 06:24.16 | pothibo_ | I have.. and still nothing dhcpdiscover has hanged at boot time |
| 06:24.24 | Ergo^ | morning all |
| 06:24.25 | pothibo_ | the lights work the same way as if I use the router... |
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| 06:24.46 | jon___ | so the cables don't need to be crossover cables |
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| 06:24.49 | pothibo_ | and I'm ready to bet 1000$ that if I put the debian cd in the damnbox and restart it.. everything would work |
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| 06:25.41 | jon___ | jerree... we hardly knew ye |
| 06:25.54 | pothibo_ | hehe' |
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| 06:27.26 | jon___ | what's jupiter got in it now? |
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| 06:27.56 | jon___ | a wholebigwebserverwithlotsadatabasestuffyouspenttwoyearsworkingon |
| 06:27.57 | pothibo_ | up to date stuff plus the samba configuration for my printer |
| 06:27.59 | jon___ | ? |
| 06:28.11 | pothibo_ | nah |
| 06:28.14 | pothibo_ | not that much |
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| 06:28.28 | jon___ | ok, so you could reinstall and wipe it clean and not lose anything? |
| 06:28.35 | pothibo_ | anyway it's all on different partition... but samba's config file are pain in the ass to get right |
| 06:28.38 | pothibo_ | yeah |
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| 06:28.50 | jon___ | can you save the samba config? |
| 06:29.21 | pothibo_ | that's exactly what I'm doing right now |
| 06:29.28 | jon___ | plus any saved passwords, etc |
| 06:29.30 | pothibo_ | cups, samba config file |
| 06:29.34 | pothibo_ | no saved password... |
| 06:29.47 | jon___ | ok |
| 06:29.58 | pothibo_ | it's a pretty clean distro, didn't have time to play with it yet, I wanted this to be a working router before playing with the other stuff |
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| 06:31.18 | lkthomas | guys |
| 06:31.26 | lkthomas | how could I setup linux routing between two subnet ? |
| 06:31.28 | jon___ | see if you can install debian on jupiter when you connect it directly to the cable modem (so jupiter's eth0 to the cable modem) |
| 06:31.59 | pothibo_ | ok I'll laucng the install go to sleep |
| 06:32.00 | jon___ | you need separate interfaces for each subhet |
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| 06:32.36 | jon___ | sheesh :) ok |
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| 06:32.49 | jon___ | someone will be here or on oftc |
| 06:33.26 | pothibo_ | jon___: thanks a load for all your help, I really appreciate it |
| 06:33.30 | pothibo_ | even if it doesn't work ;) |
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| 06:37.20 | lkthomas | anyone still alive ? |
| 06:38.03 | rati | ask the problem. some ony will answer now or later |
| 06:39.11 | lkthomas | as I said |
| 06:39.22 | lkthomas | how could I route from 192.168.100.x subnet to 192.168.1.x ? |
| 06:39.57 | Maliuta | lkthomas: with route and ipforwarding turned on |
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| 06:40.22 | lkthomas | ipforward already turns on |
| 06:40.25 | lkthomas | how could I add route then ? |
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| 06:41.07 | pothibo | joo__ I'm stupid. |
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| 06:41.50 | pothibo | jon___ you there? you're gonna laugh... |
| 06:43.51 | lkthomas | Maliuta, ? |
| 06:43.53 | pothibo | jon___: stupid of me I forgot that the cable modem my ISP gave me caches the MAC address of the router.. so you can't change the box connected to the modem unless you reset the cable modem... |
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| 06:45.08 | rati | Hey any one here with lenny with desktop xserver perfectly working? |
| 06:45.12 | Maliuta | lkthomas: are you sure? what is in /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward ? |
| 06:45.27 | lkthomas | 1 |
| 06:45.36 | thank | :) |
| 06:45.36 | rati | lkthomas: try iptables to do that forwarding. |
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| 06:46.01 | zeeble | hey rati .. what happened to your x server problem? |
| 06:46.08 | lkthomas | rati, I don't want to use NAT |
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| 06:46.21 | lkthomas | Maliuta, what else should I do now |
| 06:46.23 | rati | zeeble: stiil at same problem:( |
| 06:46.31 | Maliuta | lkthomas: and what is the output of route -n |
| 06:46.40 | zeeble | rati: do a net install .. save yourself a lot of headache. |
| 06:46.51 | lkthomas | wait |
| 06:47.11 | zeeble | rati: dunno why it is not working for you though. maybe cos you deleted those directories |
| 06:47.12 | rati | lkthomas: ok than add default route and have 2 lan card one which accept connection and second which forward it to another subnet with route |
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| 06:47.27 | lkthomas | rati, that's the theory, but how could it actually be done ? |
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| 06:47.36 | rati | zeeble: but before deleting same thing is happening |
| 06:47.47 | rati | lkthomas: do you have 2 lan card? |
| 06:47.51 | lkthomas | ......... |
| 06:47.52 | lkthomas | come on |
| 06:47.54 | lkthomas | of course yes |
| 06:48.11 | Maliuta | don't _actually_ need 2 cards, 1 and an aliased interface will do it |
| 06:48.30 | rati | lkthomas: ok than assign interface ip address and |
| 06:48.37 | Repossessed | I'm getting various webpages thatwon't load on either Iceweasel or Konqueror, but work on a second system |
| 06:49.13 | lkthomas | Kernel IP routing table |
| 06:49.13 | lkthomas | Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface |
| 06:49.13 | lkthomas | 192.168.100.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 |
| 06:49.13 | lkthomas | 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth1 |
| 06:49.13 | lkthomas | 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 100 0 0 eth1 |
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| 06:49.35 | lkthomas | http://www.pastebin.ca/1187154 |
| 06:49.41 | Maliuta | lkthomas: so the only thing stopping the routes from happening could be iptables |
| 06:49.48 | lkthomas | please check, Maliuta |
| 06:49.55 | lkthomas | I did not setup iptables |
| 06:50.02 | lkthomas | what should I do with iptables ? |
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| 06:50.11 | lkthomas | so when I use iptables, it is NAT already, am I correct ? |
| 06:50.18 | Maliuta | lkthomas: no |
| 06:50.33 | Maliuta | lkthomas: pastebin the following for me .... |
| 06:50.34 | lkthomas | ok, what else should I do with iptables ? |
| 06:50.38 | Maliuta | iptables -L -nvx |
| 06:50.38 | lkthomas | k |
| 06:50.42 | rati | lkthomas: not sure. try #iptables |
| 06:50.45 | Maliuta | iptables -t nat -L -nvx |
| 06:50.48 | Repossessed | never mind, its working now, I think |
| 06:50.58 | lkthomas | Maliuta, all empty |
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| 06:51.04 | rati | zeeble: any idea? how can i do net install? |
| 06:51.09 | Maliuta | lkthomas: what are the defaults though? |
| 06:51.18 | lkthomas | default is empty |
| 06:51.30 | lkthomas | this is a fresh installation |
| 06:51.35 | lkthomas | without adding anything yet |
| 06:51.48 | Maliuta | lkthomas: it won't be empty ... it'll be ACCEPT or DENY or DROP |
| 06:51.49 | zeeble | rati: you need to download the net instal iso. google for it, and you'll get the link. its like a 130M thing. once you do the basic install, you can download and install the rest from the web. |
| 06:52.00 | lkthomas | empty means no rules |
| 06:52.18 | wols_ | lkthomas: but there is always a policy |
| 06:52.33 | lkthomas | http://www.pastebin.ca/1187156 |
| 06:52.37 | Maliuta | lkthomas: no rules doesn't mean anything default policies are still in play |
| 06:52.48 | wols_ | lkthomas: do you want to do NAT? |
| 06:52.51 | lkthomas | check the pastebin |
| 06:52.51 | lkthomas | NO |
| 06:52.53 | lkthomas | I don't want NAT |
| 06:52.56 | lkthomas | I want static route |
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| 06:53.07 | rati | zeeble: ok. does any thing like windows have. so i dont have to format drive and my data would be safe? or I have to copy my data somewhere? |
| 06:53.21 | Maliuta | lkthomas: things will still go though the chains in the NAT table |
| 06:53.33 | lkthomas | come on |
| 06:53.37 | zeeble | rati: huh? what do you mean? |
| 06:53.37 | lkthomas | I don't need NAT |
| 06:53.40 | wols_ | lkthomas: why then ip forwarding |
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| 06:53.51 | rati | lkthomas: static route may quagga will help. what do you thing wols_? |
| 06:53.59 | lkthomas | ...... |
| 06:54.01 | Maliuta | lkthomas: and with that result it _should_ be routing, aslong as hosts know to use the ip on that box as the gateway |
| 06:54.07 | lkthomas | what a general answer ? |
| 06:54.09 | zeeble | rati: if you hve a separate /home partition, you leave it alone. during setup. do not format it during setup. |
| 06:54.14 | wols_ | if he wants a static route he just sets on in his interfaces file |
| 06:54.28 | Maliuta | lkthomas: it doesn't matter what you think you want the reality is that things still go through that table |
| 06:54.31 | rati | zeeble: I dont have that. I have all thing on same partition |
| 06:54.49 | lkthomas | Maliuta, wait, should I put 192.168.100.0 gw to 192.168.1.1 ? |
| 06:54.51 | zeeble | rati: hm. then copy all your data from /home and save it somewhere else. |
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| 06:55.51 | rati | zeeble: ok. |
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| 06:56.19 | rati | zeeble: If I purge all packet and then install it then does it install config files? |
| 06:56.52 | rati | because Earlier I have done remove and I am not sure it has removed files. so now I have purged |
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| 06:57.04 | Maliuta | lkthomas: no, if you want that box to route things from one subnet to the other the boxes should have routes set for the appropriate subnet pointing at it ... so something on 192.168.100.0/24 should be told the gateway for192.168.1.0/24 is the 192.168.100.x address on your machine |
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| 06:57.33 | Maliuta | lkthomas: and vice versa for 192.168.1.0/24 boxes to talk to 192.168.100.0/24 |
| 06:57.48 | lkthomas | hey |
| 06:57.50 | lkthomas | I said it again |
| 06:57.53 | lkthomas | I know the theory |
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| 06:57.57 | lkthomas | but how to get it done |
| 06:58.02 | Maliuta | lkthomas: quite simple really, the hosts need to know where to send the packets |
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| 06:58.11 | lkthomas | should I use RIP or something ? |
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| 06:58.35 | Maliuta | the configuration you have should be working if you have told the client hosts where to send the appropriate packets |
| 06:58.50 | Maliuta | you're not getting it. and trying to complicate things |
| 06:58.54 | rati | I have same thing working. which lkthomas already have. Dont know why its not working for him? does your gateway you mentioned is exists? |
| 06:58.57 | lkthomas | the client host can't even pint 192.168.1.1 |
| 06:59.16 | lkthomas | rati, WHAT?! |
| 06:59.20 | lkthomas | let's make it simple |
| 06:59.22 | Maliuta | lkthomas: is 1.1 the ip on the machine you want to route? |
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| 06:59.45 | lkthomas | internet -> 192.168.1.65 -- 192.168.100.1 -> 192.168.100.2 client machine |
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| 07:00.10 | lkthomas | internet -> NAT router 192.168.1.1 -> 192.168.1.65 -- 192.168.100.1 -> 192.168.100.2 client machine |
| 07:00.34 | Maliuta | so the box you have can't even ping it's default gw? |
| 07:00.34 | Engelus | Hello |
| 07:00.39 | wols_ | set proper static IPs and netmasks, enabled ip forwarding and you're done |
| 07:00.54 | Maliuta | wols_: it really is a basic task |
| 07:00.59 | lkthomas | wols_, I shouldn't use 255.255.255.0 ? |
| 07:01.04 | rati | lkthomas: from box does it ping to that gateway machine? |
| 07:01.17 | lkthomas | rati, can you please be specific ? what box ? |
| 07:01.23 | lkthomas | rati, we got 3 box here |
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| 07:01.46 | rati | lkthomas: 192.168.1.1 which is gateway for internet? |
| 07:01.51 | lkthomas | sure |
| 07:01.54 | lkthomas | NAT router address |
| 07:02.06 | Raven737 | Hi, Question: i want to use debain for a simple lampp server on a vmware infrastructure, now the it dept. want me to install 'vmware tools', supposedly it makes everything run a LOT better, but i only had problems when i set it up on a test machine.. does anybody know of a good reaso to or not to install the vmware tools? |
| 07:02.32 | wols_ | lkthomas: depends on your network. usually 255.255.255.0 is fine |
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| 07:02.50 | lkthomas | but my client box can't pint 192.168.1.1 from 192.168.100.2 |
| 07:03.06 | wols_ | is ip forwarding enabled? |
| 07:03.10 | lkthomas | YES |
| 07:03.11 | wols_ | if so, how? |
| 07:03.14 | lkthomas | I mention it a lot of time |
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| 07:03.19 | lkthomas | sysctl |
| 07:03.44 | Raven737 | anybody kow anything about 'vmware tools' on debian??? |
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| 07:04.18 | wols_ | !tell Raven737 about vmware |
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| 07:04.57 | Raven737 | a gee thx, i was asking if anybody had any experience with it ;) |
| 07:05.32 | Raven737 | vmware support tells me evrything is great and awesome.. but you know how much i trust that? |
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| 07:06.54 | wols_ | !tell Raven737 about anyone |
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| 07:09.34 | Raven737 | well thanks a lot, great channel! |
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| 07:10.18 | enouf | !8ball do you know what's on my mind? |
| 07:10.18 | dpkg | Unsure. |
| 07:10.37 | Liszek | Hallo, yesterday i was Lisio :) |
| 07:11.17 | rati | Hey in lenny xbase-clients got changed? I cant get all files from xbase-clients, it just installs some documents .. :( |
| 07:11.48 | enouf | !8ball does it involve a bag full of herring, a little thermal paste, and 42 starving hamsters? |
| 07:11.48 | dpkg | Are you smoking crack? |
| 07:11.57 | enouf | O_o |
| 07:12.10 | Liszek | Debian-sparc. I would like to compile qemu from sources. After configure everyfing is ok. I have error with make command. Error is: /usr/bin/ls: skipping incompatibile libz.so when searching fo -lz |
| 07:12.23 | Liszek | anyone compile qemu on Debian-Sparc? |
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| 07:13.52 | Jesse1 | hello everyone |
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| 07:14.45 | Liszek | anyone use debian-sparc? |
| 07:15.04 | Jesse1 | not me |
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| 07:16.04 | liable | there is a debian-sparc channel. on oftc i think |
| 07:16.17 | Liszek | i try |
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| 07:16.36 | liable | try the list if the channel is slow |
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| 07:17.42 | Liszek | there isn't debian-sparc :( |
| 07:17.54 | liable | !sparc |
| 07:17.54 | dpkg | well, sparc is the CPU architecture used in Sun's proprietary hardware. Non-embedded ones usually run Solaris, but to run Linux on it, visit http://www.ultralinux.org/faq.html, Type make vmlinux (not kernel, bzImage, lilo, anything like that) to compile the kernel. For more information about the SPARC architecture, see http://www.sparc.org. For help with Linux on SPARC look in #debian-sparc on irc.oftc.net, or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPARC |
| 07:18.04 | liable | on oftc.. |
| 07:18.31 | Liszek | what does it means oftc? |
| 07:18.40 | liable | irc.debian.org |
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| 07:19.07 | liable | thats debians irc network |
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| 07:20.11 | Liszek | liable: connection refused |
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| 07:22.56 | Jesse1 | can I make my debian install a virtualbox install ? |
| 07:23.04 | Xjkx | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:28.28 | rati | If I do purge xlurunner-1.9 does its dependencies also purged? or its just removed? |
| 07:28.51 | rati | aptitude purge clurunner-1.9 |
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| 07:29.39 | liable | depends if the depends were automatically installed with that package |
| 07:29.53 | liable | and if anything still needs them |
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| 07:32.18 | rati | liable: dependency dont have any dependency. so does it purge it? |
| 07:32.33 | liable | rati: try and see.. |
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| 07:33.18 | rati | liable: I tried it says its removing dependencies and the packet I purged it says it purged and removed all files |
| 07:33.53 | liable | and the problem is? |
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| 07:35.38 | rati | liable: dependencies are not purges its just removed |
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| 07:36.42 | liable | oh, i see. doe dpkg -l show they still have conf files? not sure how to make it do that. |
| 07:36.52 | rati | liable: ok |
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| 07:39.43 | rati | liable: how to check that? I tried dpkg -l scrollkeeper, its output is http://www.pastebin.ca/1187178 |
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| 07:41.14 | fischer | . |
| 07:42.11 | liable | rati: rc means removed onfigs remain. |
| 07:42.16 | liable | configs* |
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| 07:43.09 | rati | liable: so config files still there? |
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| 07:43.15 | liable | yeah |
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| 07:43.41 | rati | liable: is there any option which will also purge its dependencies? |
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| 07:44.01 | fischer | hello. i m getting 169 series ip and not getting connected. but from windows the net works perfectly. what could be the problem |
| 07:44.06 | liable | rati: dpkg -P scrollkeeper will remove them. i dont know how to make aptitude purge the depends. |
| 07:44.25 | manu_hack | on my two machines, both has vim Version: 1:7.1.314-3, but one shows 7.1 and another shows 7.2 when running :version |
| 07:44.36 | rati | liable: ok, but then I have to do it for every packet :( |
| 07:44.53 | manu_hack | no biggy just weird |
| 07:44.53 | liable | rati: have a look in the aptitude man page i guess. |
| 07:45.09 | rati | liable: ok |
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| 07:53.25 | nirupama | hi all |
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| 07:53.41 | nirupama | When my system boots up I get a huge amount of messages like |
| 07:53.43 | Liszek | ok sorry. How to get invite to debian-sparc channel? |
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| 07:53.55 | nirupama | Aug 28 16:19:52 boss gdm[3851]: DEBUG: gdm_auth_user_remove: Removing cookie from /root/.Xauthority (0) |
| 07:53.55 | nirupama | Aug 28 16:19:52 boss gdm[3851]: DEBUG: Attempting to parse key string: security/RelaxPermissions=0 |
| 07:53.55 | nirupama | Aug 28 16:19:52 boss gdm[3851]: DEBUG: Attempting to parse key string: security/UserMaxFile=65536 |
| 07:53.55 | nirupama | Aug 28 16:19:52 boss gdm[3851]: DEBUG: Attempting to parse key string: security/SupportAutomount=false |
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| 07:54.09 | nirupama | its all of gdm |
| 07:54.16 | nirupama | can anybody let me know how to solve them |
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| 07:55.13 | liable | Liszek: you should't need an invite. just connect to the oftc network and join the channel |
| 07:55.38 | Liszek | [09:38] [Kick] You have been kicked from channel #debian-sparc by ChanServ (Invite only channel). |
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| 07:56.06 | liable | odd. thats on freenode? |
| 07:56.22 | liable | thares no chanserv on oftc |
| 07:56.41 | Maliuta | there is |
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| 07:57.07 | Liszek | i don't understand. What should i do? |
| 07:57.10 | liable | not in any channel i'm in |
| 07:57.23 | Maliuta | liable: there are also a heap of chans that require you to be registered with nickserv |
| 07:57.28 | liable | Liszek: you need to connect to the irc.oftc.net server |
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| 07:57.40 | balasyum | hi |
| 07:57.53 | balasyum | is it recommended to use lenny as a server? |
| 07:58.01 | balasyum | or is anybody using it as? |
| 07:58.13 | Guerin | no |
| 07:58.15 | Maliuta | Liszek: you need to register with nickserv to begin with, and if it truely is invite only you need to procure an invite or some chanserv access |
| 07:58.15 | Guerin | use etch |
| 07:58.43 | Liszek | Maliuta: |
| 07:58.43 | Liszek | [09:59] [Error] Connection to Server irc.oftc.net lost: connection actively refused. Trying to reconnect. |
| 07:58.43 | Liszek | [09:59] [Info] Looking for server irc.oftc.net:6667... |
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| 07:59.02 | Liszek | any password or what i need to connect? |
| 07:59.17 | Maliuta | Liszek: there are other oftc servers |
| 07:59.45 | Maliuta | Liszek: irc.geo.oftc.net is what I am connected to |
| 08:00.16 | Maliuta | Liszek: some servers are restricted to certain IP blocks and/or auth'd users |
| 08:01.07 | Liszek | i see :( this is refused my connection too :( |
| 08:01.31 | Liszek | i' from poland maby this is a problem :) |
| 08:01.36 | Liszek | polish IP |
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| 08:02.25 | Maliuta | you should be able to get a server |
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| 08:03.57 | Liszek | i can not to connect to irc.debian.org too |
| 08:04.07 | Liszek | and many others why? i' dont now |
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| 08:04.38 | Maliuta | Liszek: are you trying to use ssl? |
| 08:04.41 | Liszek | Maliuta can You send me invite to debian-sparc channel? |
| 08:04.53 | Liszek | no I don't use ssl |
| 08:05.01 | Maliuta | Liszek: no, I'm not in debian-sparc |
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| 08:10.41 | VacaL | Hello |
| 08:10.52 | VacaL | What kmk command is? In what package is it? |
| 08:11.52 | Henry-Nicolas | Hello everybody, I'm trying to configure Debian on a Latitude D530, everything works fine execpt the micro, it uses an Intel HD Audio (ICH8 - 82801), I'm trying to configure it using kmix, any idea ? |
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| 08:12.15 | freebse | hi after updating iceweasel it keeps crashing with seg fault, I took a look on the buglist and it was there, but the solution does not work since the last update, can someone confirm this bug, or is there a soultion allready or a workaround |
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| 08:12.36 | freebse | http://www.nabble.com/debian-unstable:-iceweasel-segmentation-fault-td18552870.html |
| 08:12.58 | rati | VacaL: dpkg -S /path/to/file |
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| 08:13.01 | freebse | but the bug does not go away, I tried everything |
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| 08:13.41 | VacaL | rati, i dont know the path to kmk, cause I have not isntalled... |
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| 08:14.35 | rati | VacaL: ask some one who has installed it :) |
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| 08:15.00 | VacaL | oki :D |
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| 08:16.50 | speakman | hi people. I've got this strange issue (running debian stable) when upgrading from custom 2.6.15 kernel to debian 2.6.25-2-686 stock kernel. My eth1 seems to get the HW address of eth0 ! |
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| 08:17.45 | speakman | Both eth0 and eth1 are currently using the same HW addr |
| 08:18.04 | speakman | Anyone heard of this before? |
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| 08:19.40 | plundra | speakman: Yeah I think a friends Sun Enterprise <something> had that. |
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| 08:21.47 | liable | Liszek: i joined the sparc channel no problem. maybe your ip has been banned from the server for some reason |
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| 08:23.30 | dbmoodb | mmmm i get a gtk warning about gtk cannot allocate size wiget .. width -5 height 24... any ideas of how to fix this ? (i have already deleted the .dirs of note) |
| 08:24.27 | Liszek | i don't now |
| 08:24.39 | Liszek | i use irc first time |
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| 08:25.24 | dbmoodb | ah got it. some thing wrong with networking manager and i then get an invalid pointer... (files bug) |
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| 08:26.21 | wols_ | speakman: not really, but then ther eis no 2.6.25 in debian stable either |
| 08:26.45 | Liszek | liable: If You joind can You try invite me? |
| 08:27.07 | Liszek | it's really important for me |
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| 08:28.16 | rati | Hey how can I know that which package has been replaced in lenny from etch? |
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| 08:30.00 | rati | like in etch its xbase-clients while in lenny xbase-clients have only information file :( |
| 08:30.02 | oldpentium | i am running etch on a old pentium 133 Mhz laptop. it works ok but it is somewhat slow whcih is understandable but can anyone give me any tips about saving memory? any mb counts! |
| 08:30.37 | Maliuta | oldpentium: run one cosole only, and use mingetty |
| 08:30.58 | speakman | wols_: as I said; I was using a custom 2.6.15 kernel prior the upgrade |
| 08:31.03 | mquin | oldpentium: only run what you need - take a close look at the output from PS, find out what everything that is running does, and decide whether you need it |
| 08:31.11 | Maliuta | oldpentium: roll your own kernel with only what you need and stuff that might be intermitent (like network) as modules |
| 08:31.30 | oldpentium | i am running x with a very light window manager called icewm. I do NOT want to run console mode only and do not wanna change window manager either |
| 08:32.02 | Maliuta | oldpentium: if you _have_ to run a gui don't use gnome or kde run something really light and only xdm (no gdm or kdm) |
| 08:32.13 | wols_ | speakman: there is still no 2.6.25 kernel in current stable. etch will never have such a kernel |
| 08:32.38 | Maliuta | oldpentium: the default is 6 consoles running getty (which works out at over 1MB each) |
| 08:32.45 | wols_ | oldpentium: different MTA: simplmail or such instead of exim |
| 08:32.53 | oldpentium | i can not roll my all kernel since my hd is 2GB and have only 100MB space left. |
| 08:33.00 | Maliuta | oldpentium: replacing it with 1 console of mingetty cuts it to less that 1MB |
| 08:33.07 | oldpentium | my own kernel i can not roll |
| 08:33.12 | wols_ | running your own special kernel won't help anyways |
| 08:33.14 | Maliuta | oldpentium: why not? |
| 08:33.20 | Maliuta | wols_: it does |
| 08:33.41 | oldpentium | i can not roll my own kernel since my hd is 2GB and have only 100MB space left. |
| 08:33.48 | liable | Liszek: what commands are you using to connect to oftc? |
| 08:34.18 | wols_ | oldpentium: do you have another (debian) system? |
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| 08:34.28 | oldpentium | <Maliuta> how do i disable gettys |
| 08:34.38 | oldpentium | i do not have anaother debian system |
| 08:34.39 | Liszek | liable: /server irc.oftc.net |
| 08:35.00 | Liszek | liable: and i cant connet |
| 08:35.06 | liable | Liszek: try /connect irc.oftc.net |
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| 08:36.06 | liable | Liszek: i just got a reply, you need to mail support@oftc.net |
| 08:36.29 | Maliuta | oldpentium: edit /etc/inittab |
| 08:36.32 | liable | heads off to work |
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| 08:39.24 | ArthurArchnix | Hi,yesterday I was able to log into my home network (just an XP simple file sharing network) by opening natuilus, clicking on windows network, then changing the location from smb:/// to smb:///BEA then my shared folders showed up (previously they did not). Today this is not working. Both are connected to the same wireless AP. And no other changes were made. |
| 08:40.14 | Liszek | liable thanks |
| 08:40.37 | oldpentium | <Maliuta> thanks. i disabled 4 ttys so I only have tty1 and tty2. what else can i do? |
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| 08:42.43 | ArthurArchnix | I'm gonna try rebooting the computers... unless I can just restart samba, which I assume is what's responsible for this? |
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| 08:44.02 | Hanzomon | debian etch. hi, i am on the recue system and trying to mount the boot partition. i keep on getting mount: /dev/sdb3 already mounted or /mountarget busy. someone help? |
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| 08:45.08 | Hanzomon | df says its not mointed |
| 08:45.10 | Hanzomon | mounted |
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| 08:46.59 | Maliuta | munted? |
| 08:47.36 | ArthurArchnix | actually, when I seach (aptitude search) samba,,, I see samba-client and its status is "v" |
| 08:48.34 | Hanzomon | the problem is, that i have to change somethin in the boot configuration, and the server is only booting in the rescue mode. but i cant access the boot partition to change that. someone please help. |
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| 08:49.15 | SPF | Hanzomon: what does mount tell you? |
| 08:50.35 | Hanzomon | SPF: disk is not mounted |
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| 08:52.45 | SPF | Hanzomon: if you have multiple sata discs, /dev/sdb could've been changed into something else like /dev/sda. Try confirming it with fdisk |
| 08:55.12 | Hanzomon | SPF: yeah it shows me sda and sdb (raid). but i cant mount any of these, i keep on getting the message that the disk is already mounted but it isnt |
| 08:55.38 | Hanzomon | SPF: seems like somethin is locking these devices |
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| 08:58.04 | SPF | hmm, strange. I'm not familiar with raid |
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| 08:59.52 | oldpentium | i am running etch on an old Pentium 133 Mhz laptop with x and a very light window manager called icewm. i edited /etc/inittab and disabled 4 ttys so I only have tty1 and tty2 left. what else can i do to save precious RAM? |
| 09:00.07 | cga`work | hi all... how do i tell solid to use wicd instead of nm? |
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| 09:00.10 | oldpentium | i am running x with a very light window manager called icewm. I do NOT want to run console mode only and do not wanna change window manager either |
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| 09:01.25 | cga`work | sorry wrong chat |
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| 09:02.38 | ArthurArchnix | ok, I reinstalled samba-client and reconfigured it, rebooted my computer and now when I open my network servers in nautilus I see the folders that are shared. But clicking on any of them just results in nautilus saying I can't access this, "this is not a folder" |
| 09:02.49 | et | oldpentium: well, look through the process list and decide what's unnecessary |
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| 09:06.34 | oldpentium | i disabled services that i do not need and gonna restart my laptop now. i will be back in a short while. thanks |
| 09:06.57 | teel | what does it mean when it says "this aptitude does not have super cow powers" |
| 09:06.58 | teel | ?? |
| 09:07.17 | esteel | its a joke on apt-get.. |
| 09:07.19 | ArthurArchnix | teel: it means you gave it a bad command |
| 09:07.24 | teel | orly |
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| 09:07.28 | visof_ | hi |
| 09:07.34 | teel | well for some reason i can't "aptitude install xfce4" |
| 09:07.37 | teel | says package not found |
| 09:07.46 | visof_ | is there any commands to view some information about my hardware ? |
| 09:07.54 | teel | aptitude install lshw |
| 09:08.04 | teel | it's a nice tool. |
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| 09:08.28 | teel | that was for you, visof_ |
| 09:08.30 | teel | just so you know. :x |
| 09:09.04 | visof_ | thanks teel |
| 09:09.10 | teel | indeedly so. |
| 09:09.23 | ArthurArchnix | Ok... things are just getting worse and worse here. |
| 09:09.31 | ArthurArchnix | dpkg samba |
| 09:09.32 | dpkg | i heard samba is a Unix implementation of Windows file and print sharing (the SMB protocol), a good tutorial in English can be found at http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/using_samba/toc.html , or http://www.samba.org, or read O'Reilly's book online (http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html), or #samba on irc.freenode.net, or <samba etch5> |
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| 09:09.54 | Arafangion | Hey, how do I upgrade hotplug? |
| 09:10.41 | Arafangion | Whenever I try to do so, it attempts to remove a crapload of things, including udev and gnome. |
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| 09:11.35 | tralala | Arafangion, hotplug is deprecated in favour of udev |
| 09:11.40 | nirupama | how to add a locale to the dpkg-reconfigure locales list |
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| 09:11.45 | nirupama | I dont find ur_IN |
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| 09:11.50 | nirupama | and I wan to add that |
| 09:11.53 | phyburn | how do I increase the open file limit for a user? |
| 09:12.02 | phyburn | I'm not sure what to put in /etc/security/limits.conf |
| 09:12.06 | tralala | Arafangion, they both do the same thing, that's why the packages conflict with each other |
| 09:12.37 | Arafangion | tralala, I must find another theory as to why I can't get my ipw-2200 firmware loaded. :( |
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| 09:14.19 | ArthurArchnix | I don't understand. I just want to move some files between these laptops, but it would be faster for me to use a flash drive that read the samba manually. Isn't there an easier way? |
| 09:14.35 | teel | usb hub |
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| 09:15.59 | zaggynl | ArthurArchnix: windows and linux laptop? |
| 09:16.05 | zaggynl | might want to try winscp on the windows laptop then |
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| 09:16.41 | ArthurArchnix | I'll google that zaggyni thanks |
| 09:17.42 | rati | wols_: Hey I have lenny problem solved. Actually its problem of xserver. so you have to add two lines in device section |
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| 09:18.01 | rati | Option "AccelMethod" "XAA" |
| 09:18.02 | rati | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:18.32 | rati | wols_: in xorg.conf. Thanks. wow |
| 09:18.44 | phyburn | how do I increase the open file limit for a user? |
| 09:18.46 | phyburn | I'm not sure what to put in /etc/security/limits.conf |
| 09:18.55 | teel | dpkg: cigarette |
| 09:18.55 | dpkg | cigarette is, like, mmmmm cancer GOOD |
| 09:19.07 | teel | eh |
| 09:19.13 | Hanzomon | SPF: thanks, i got it. i was stupid. i just mounted md1, the raid |
| 09:23.28 | Arafangion | Why might'nt I be able to load my ipw-2200 firmware? |
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| 09:27.03 | marc7 | what CLI tool(s) could I use to downsample/downsize a bunch of .jpg's? I just need to create a bunch of thumbnails once... not on a regular basis... looking for something to make my life easier |
| 09:27.18 | Arafangion | marc7, image magick |
| 09:27.38 | marc7 | Arafangion: anything that doesn't require installing x11-common? |
| 09:27.43 | tralala | Arafangion, is it in the correct place? |
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| 09:28.13 | Arafangion | tralala, I am 100% convinced it is, but how would I know? Apparently hotplug is supposed to tell it where it is. |
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| 09:28.24 | Arafangion | tralala, It stinks when the only error code I have is "-2". |
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| 09:28.41 | SPF | Hanzomon: np, is that /dev/md1 ? |
| 09:28.47 | tralala | Arafangion, /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware/? |
| 09:29.25 | Arafangion | tralala, I put it in /lib/firmware |
| 09:29.34 | marc7 | it's not a big deal, I just hate the notion of installing anything X related on a terminal-less server |
| 09:29.44 | tralala | Arafangion, put it there |
| 09:30.00 | Arafangion | Put it into /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware? |
| 09:30.05 | tralala | yes |
| 09:30.37 | Arafangion | tralala, I'll have to reboot, so will come back probably tomorrow if it doesn't work. :( Some stupid idiot decided not to compile it as a module. :( |
| 09:31.27 | Caelum | how do you tell ssh to not hang on logout if you started a background process |
| 09:31.30 | tralala | nice touch |
| 09:31.57 | tralala | Caelum, you will start the background process using nohup or screen |
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| 09:32.22 | Caelum | tralala: it just forks... |
| 09:32.48 | Arafangion | tralala, Infact, if it doesn't work then, i"ll probably be forced to consider that it might not work unless it's a module. :( |
| 09:32.48 | Caelum | I have to use ~. to exit, but I can't do that if I'm doing a non-interactive ssh |
| 09:32.49 | tralala | Caelum, your own programme? |
| 09:32.55 | The_Dr | Hi, I have an old debian computer that I just pulled out and low and behold I can not for the life of me remeber my username, how the heck do i find that? |
| 09:33.08 | Arafangion | The_Dr, root it, and reset it. |
| 09:33.27 | tralala | The_Dr, boot with init=/bin/sh and see /etc/passwd |
| 09:33.33 | The_Dr | Arafangion: woulod it surprise you to know I cannot remember the root password? |
| 09:33.35 | Caelum | The_Dr: boot with init=/bin/sh then mount -o rw,remount / |
| 09:33.47 | Arafangion | The_Dr, Why would you -need- the root password? |
| 09:34.01 | tralala | Caelum, does the process fork twice? |
| 09:34.10 | Caelum | tralala: yeah I think so |
| 09:34.49 | tralala | Caelum, my guess is that it doesn't, otherwise it wouldn't stop the logout |
| 09:35.17 | tralala | in any case you can use screen, dtach or nohup to work around it |
| 09:35.39 | Caelum | I'd rather not...but will if I have to |
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| 09:36.41 | tralala | Caelum, nohup should be the smoothest wrapper |
| 09:36.56 | ShredZ | Using tightvncserver I noticed an ip to have multiple connections to the same vnc desktop, the ip only had one client opened, but multiple were listed in netstat. This causes mouse input to fail on other connections to the vnc as well. Disabling shared connection on the client and connecting causes the mouse to work again. How can this happen ? |
| 09:37.00 | tralala | or if you have the source make sure it forks _twice_ |
| 09:37.44 | tralala | Caelum, where does it show up in pstree? |
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| 09:37.58 | Arafangion | tralala, Why does it matter if it forks once, twice, or thrice? |
| 09:38.19 | Caelum | tralala: it's a solaris box :) |
| 09:39.07 | Caelum | tralala: nohup works perfectly, thank you very much |
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| 09:39.18 | pythonic | what's the difference between debootstrap and cdebootstrap? |
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| 09:39.46 | pythonic | besides the "c" |
| 09:40.04 | Arafangion | The latter is cursed? |
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| 09:40.43 | pythonic | so i can't dpkg --purge it without a prayer? |
| 09:40.48 | tralala | Caelum, you're welcome |
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| 09:41.25 | The_Dr | Caelum: GRUB didnt like init=/bin/sh "command not found" |
| 09:41.47 | Caelum | The_Dr: select the kernel, type e to edit it |
| 09:44.38 | tralala | Arafangion, the double fork: http://www.developerweb.net/forum/archive/index.php/t-3025.html |
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| 09:45.12 | my007ms | after upgrade i have many kernel installed now |
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| 09:45.26 | my007ms | i need remove them all and keep only the last one |
| 09:45.37 | my007ms | do i have to make this manual ? |
| 09:45.45 | The_Dr | Caelum: then mount -o rw,remount /- not working keeps asking for filesystem type, I add then mount ext3 -o rw,remount / and it wont work |
| 09:46.12 | wols_ | doesn't work |
| 09:46.22 | wols_ | !doesn't work |
| 09:46.22 | dpkg | Look buddy, "doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message". |
| 09:46.35 | Arafangion | tralala, Thanks for that. |
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| 09:46.46 | wols_ | my007ms: if there are many, yes then you have to do this manually |
| 09:46.52 | alcohol | how could I kill all running /usr/bin/php processes? |
| 09:46.56 | wols_ | Arafangion: cdebootstrap is written in C |
| 09:47.59 | tralala | Arafangion, sure. Btw /lib/udev/firmware.agent and /lib/udev/hotplug.functions manage the firmware loading. Looking there I think your problem is not with the directory. |
| 09:47.59 | The_Dr | Caelum: All good thanks dude, |
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| 09:48.32 | alcohol | anyone? it's kinda urgent. they're killing my db |
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| 09:48.53 | Caelum | alcohol: pkill or killall |
| 09:48.54 | tralala | alcohol, pkill php |
| 09:49.32 | tralala | or stop the database and they'll die |
| 09:50.07 | alcohol | thanks |
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| 09:53.50 | Arafangion | tralala, Thanks for the pointer. I think all signs are pointing to a kernel configuration problem. |
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| 09:56.34 | rati | I have my alll partition as /dev/sda does in grub I want root (sd0,0) or root (hd0,0)? |
| 09:56.43 | tralala | Arafangion, I think the custom kernel configuration is the problem itself. |
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| 09:57.06 | tralala | rati, hd0 |
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| 09:57.12 | Arafangion | tralala, I wanted a recent kernel so that I could switch the wireless on, ironically. |
| 09:57.24 | Arafangion | tralala, And now I can switch it on quite nicely - but can't /use/ it! |
| 09:57.29 | rati | tralala: ok, Can I ask how? |
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| 09:58.14 | tralala | Arafangion, a recent kernel doesn't mean custom configuration |
| 09:58.42 | tralala | rati, how what? |
| 09:58.58 | rati | tralala: how come its hd0? |
| 09:59.06 | rati | not sd0 |
| 09:59.15 | tralala | because grub is _not_ linux |
| 09:59.40 | rati | tralala: so its taking data from BIOS? |
| 09:59.40 | Arafangion | tralala, How so? |
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| 09:59.47 | Arafangion | tralala, make-kpkg didn't pick sane defaults. |
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| 10:01.07 | Arafangion | rati, The best way to understand Grub is that it's an OS in it's own right, albiet a very limited one. |
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| 10:01.29 | Arafangion | rati, It contains it's own shell, it's own set of commands (including cat), it's own filesystem drivers, etc. |
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| 10:02.05 | rati | Arafangion: ok. I must read its document ;) |
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| 10:03.14 | tralala | Arafangion, I've always wondered how is the debian kernel configured before packaging. What I used to do what to copy a config from an older kernel and then I would only be asked for the new options. |
| 10:03.38 | tralala | s/what/was/ |
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| 10:04.56 | Arafangion | tralala, And how did you get the old config? |
| 10:05.04 | tralala | Arafangion, from /boot/ |
| 10:05.13 | Arafangion | tralala, Not from /proc/config.gz? |
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| 10:05.23 | tralala | no, from /boot/ |
| 10:05.25 | fr33n0d | hey guys, im trying to tar up some directory but inside there is this file js.png , it's got a perm of ?rw-r--r-- , and it breaks up my tarring. what the hell is, ?rw-r--r-- |
| 10:05.43 | _abc_ | hello |
| 10:05.54 | _abc_ | where do i find info on internationalization in debian |
| 10:06.00 | _abc_ | esp for european languages |
| 10:06.10 | _abc_ | i need the nordic character sets |
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| 10:07.17 | tralala | fr33n0d, broken filesystem? |
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| 10:08.55 | berzerka | _abc_: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/intro-i18n/ |
| 10:09.35 | Arafangion | I _wish_ Vista had half-way capable i18n. :( |
| 10:09.36 | MrWax | how can I sort messages that I received in mutt by date descending? |
| 10:09.37 | MrWax | it does it ascending from old to you by default right? |
| 10:09.48 | berzerka | _abc_: http://i18n.debian.net/wiki seems promising. |
| 10:10.26 | berzerka | _abc_: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tune.en.html#s-l10n |
| 10:10.55 | berzerka | _abc_: i think this one will be most helpful. good luck. |
| 10:11.10 | _abc_ | thanks, what i really need is the nordic character sets |
| 10:11.19 | _abc_ | and the bulgarian one since i'm at it |
| 10:11.37 | berzerka | those references should tell you how to enable those. |
| 10:11.47 | _abc_ | since bulgaria has joined the eu there is a chyrillic character set in the mix ... |
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| 10:12.00 | fr33n0d | if it is fs problem, (my fs is RAID 10 fyi), its not going to corrupt my entire raid is it? |
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| 10:13.03 | pingouin_ | MrWax: folder-hook . set sort_aux=reverse-date |
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| 10:15.06 | pingouin_ | MrWax: http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-6.html#ss6.3 sort_aux / sort |
| 10:15.07 | MrWax | set sort_aux=reverse-date <- set that in .muttrc? |
| 10:15.09 | MrWax | ok |
| 10:15.23 | pingouin_ | yeah sure, MrWax in your ~/.muttrc |
| 10:15.45 | MrWax | set from='The Name <info@midegro.com> |
| 10:15.49 | MrWax | whats wrong with that line? |
| 10:15.57 | MrWax | doesn't seem to work for me |
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| 10:16.54 | pingouin_ | MrWax: folder-hook "sent" set <-- if you want to sort "sent" mailbox for instance |
| 10:17.03 | pingouin_ | MrWax: or "you_box" |
| 10:17.31 | pingouin_ | but you know there is a #mutt channel here on freenode |
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| 10:17.50 | pingouin_ | mutt is cool, but not easy to set up at beginning |
| 10:18.10 | pingouin_ | once you got what you want, dont forget to backup ;) |
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| 10:24.17 | seller | hi |
| 10:24.17 | seller | all |
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| 10:24.52 | Arafangion | Everyone, on the count of three, say hi to seller! |
| 10:25.36 | seller | any one who want to buy iphones 3gb 4gb 6gb 8gb 32gb pm me pls |
| 10:25.52 | Arafangion | Ahh, another idiot. |
| 10:26.00 | Orbixx | Er. |
| 10:26.11 | Orbixx | Why would we buy an Apple product? |
| 10:26.31 | seller | he is the best for now |
| 10:26.38 | tralala | seller, I'll buy one if you make it run debian |
| 10:26.54 | seller | if u want to buy pm |
| 10:26.56 | Arafangion | seller, Bullshit, it is merely popular. |
| 10:26.58 | Orbixx | I'll buy one if you can make it kill Steve Jobs. |
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| 10:27.21 | Caelum | would consider one if it had a keyboard |
| 10:27.40 | Arafangion | Caelum, Likewise, actually. |
| 10:27.47 | Coke | Hello. The latest Iceweasel has an URL drop down list that displays the site TITLE as well as the URL, the search is done on title as well, is there any way to disable this very very annoying "feature"? |
| 10:28.10 | Arafangion | Caelum, Buttons are a much better input. |
| 10:28.31 | alturiak | Coke: the feature gets awesome once you start tagging your bookmarks :) |
| 10:28.36 | Arafangion | Coke, What's wrong with it? |
| 10:28.40 | alturiak | but that's probably personal preference :) |
| 10:28.48 | Coke | alturiak: I don't use bookmarks |
| 10:28.52 | Coke | Arafangion: it searches the title |
| 10:29.12 | Coke | Arafangion: when I type "the" I get a lot of hits on site with titles starting with THE when in fact I want hits on URL's |
| 10:29.16 | seller | any one who want to buy iphones 3gb 4gb 6gb 8gb 32gb pm me pls |
| 10:29.21 | Arafangion | Coke, Opera has something similar, except that if you type in the actual url, does it use the url as the actual link? |
| 10:29.31 | Arafangion | Coke, Then keep typing! |
| 10:29.36 | Coke | Arafangion: I don't want to. |
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| 10:30.00 | alturiak | i think, you might have better luck in some firefox-related channel |
| 10:30.02 | Coke | Arafangion: I want to type as little as possible and I have no idea what the titles are, I don't keep track of them, I only remember and use URLs |
| 10:30.03 | Arafangion | !ops No reason why seller should repeat things he says, most of us aren't deaf. |
| 10:30.03 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: arafangion complains about: No reason why seller should repeat things he says, most of us aren't deaf. |
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| 10:30.17 | Coke | alturiak: this feature is not in my firefox |
| 10:30.24 | tralala | Coke, try finding something in about:config |
| 10:30.29 | Coke | alturiak: the only reason I'm using iceweasel here is because I run an all 64-bit system |
| 10:30.30 | alturiak | it is since 3.0 |
| 10:30.35 | Coke | tralala: hmmm. |
| 10:31.17 | tralala | Coke, are you a vim user? |
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| 10:31.39 | Coke | tralala: emacs |
| 10:31.43 | Gary | seller: this is not a market, please advertise away from freenode |
| 10:31.54 | Coke | tralala: anyway, the config section has DOZENS of urlbar related settings |
| 10:32.00 | Coke | more, even. |
| 10:32.04 | tralala | Coke, I guess you won't like the vimperator extension then. |
| 10:32.19 | Coke | I want the old "match the URL" |
| 10:32.29 | Coke | it has worked for me for over a decade |
| 10:33.18 | tralala | Coke, try browser.urlbar.matchbehaviour |
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| 10:33.31 | Coke | tralala: yeah, just gotta find some docs that explains what that integer does |
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| 10:34.08 | azeem | Arafangion: eh, what? |
| 10:34.18 | azeem | Arafangion: please don't abuse ops after you just fed a troll |
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| 10:35.56 | Arafangion | azeem, Sorry. :( |
| 10:36.02 | stevedondley | ping dondelelcaro |
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| 10:36.36 | azeem | Arafangion: it'd been more constructive to tell seller to not do off-topic stuff in chan, and then when he repeats flag ops on that |
| 10:36.53 | azeem | Arafangion: I hope you won't call !ops each time somebody asks the same question/says the same line twice |
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| 10:37.45 | Arafangion | azeem, I won't. :) |
| 10:38.11 | azrael_valedhel | hey people, I seem to be unable to set date with |
| 10:38.29 | azrael_valedhel | date -s 082812322008 |
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| 10:38.40 | azrael_valedhel | am I missing something |
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| 10:38.58 | Coke | tralala: no go |
| 10:39.02 | teel | name that tune |
| 10:39.14 | Coke | tralala: none of the settings in that version of iceweasel allows to disable that funky search |
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| 10:42.37 | Trewas | Coke: this isn't directly helping but I did not like the new matching first, but after getting used to it (being able to match also titles and parts of url) going back to pure beginning-of-url-based matching would be a huge step back |
| 10:42.40 | harpal | I dont have sound working. I tried alsa check list. but didnt helped |
| 10:44.02 | teel | ARM YOURSELF because no one else here will save you |
| 10:44.06 | teel | the odds will betray you |
| 10:44.49 | teel | ignore #debian quits |
| 10:44.51 | teel | oops.. |
| 10:44.52 | funzl | hi all, is there a possibility to list all on my system installed fonts? |
| 10:45.28 | tralala | harpal, try it again, recoding and pasteing the whole session to a web paste |
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| 10:46.22 | MrWax | Is there a way to quickly jump to the search field on a page with 'Links' ? |
| 10:46.32 | harpal | tralala: ok |
| 10:47.15 | tralala | MrWax, search the closest link and then tab |
| 10:47.40 | teel | In May 2005, Daniel Craig announced that MGM and producers Michael G. Wilson and Barbara Broccoli had assured him |
| 10:47.43 | teel | haha, are you SERIOUS? |
| 10:47.48 | teel | "barbara broccoli" ? |
| 10:48.20 | tralala | teel, please stay on topic |
| 10:48.26 | MrWax | tralala: thanks |
| 10:48.31 | teel | tralala: sorry. :< |
| 10:48.32 | tralala | MrWax, you're welcome |
| 10:48.35 | teel | focuses |
| 10:48.44 | MrWax | tralala: hmm doesn't work for me |
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| 10:49.12 | MrWax | tralala: i.e. I go to google.us, am on the "Images" link and press tab, nothing happens |
| 10:50.12 | tralala | MrWax, erm, maybe the down arrow |
| 10:51.06 | MrWax | tralala: same, then i'll just go through all links |
| 10:51.40 | tralala | MrWax, for google.us you want to search for "search" and then hit the up arrow |
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| 10:52.16 | tralala | the idea is to find some text that is right next to the edit field and then move |
| 10:52.17 | AfterRain | o/ |
| 10:52.35 | MrWax | tralala: ah yep |
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| 10:53.59 | SirHopCount | hi |
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| 10:54.24 | buzizk | Hey |
| 10:54.28 | SirHopCount | kan someone explain to me wat "transition package" means (i want to upgrade my kernel) |
| 10:54.33 | buzizk | im trying to replace a disk |
| 10:54.41 | buzizk | i've created non-similiar partitions |
| 10:54.49 | buzizk | and plan on copying the files manually |
| 10:55.04 | buzizk | how should i create the mbr? im using grub |
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| 10:59.04 | buzizk | anyone\? |
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| 11:01.24 | harpal | buzizk: try grub-install |
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| 11:03.05 | harpal | buzizk: Change accroding your partitions grub-install --recheck --root-directory=/path/to/mount/drive /dev/hda |
| 11:03.43 | harpal | brb |
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| 11:07.06 | capurro | hi |
| 11:07.11 | capurro | help me |
| 11:07.29 | buzizk | speak |
| 11:07.39 | capurro | english |
| 11:08.05 | capurro | buzizk |
| 11:08.35 | h3k | hello |
| 11:08.42 | capurro | help me |
| 11:09.02 | buzizk | will you speak? |
| 11:09.08 | capurro | eng |
| 11:09.21 | capurro | buzizk |
| 11:09.25 | capurro | u use shell? |
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| 11:09.53 | buzizk | yes |
| 11:10.06 | capurro | ok |
| 11:10.11 | capurro | join my channel pls |
| 11:10.23 | capurro | whois me |
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| 11:11.37 | capurro | buzizik |
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| 11:12.10 | buzizk | hey harpal, im trying to replace the regular disk, so shouldn't i tell grub where the files are on the new one? |
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| 11:12.28 | capurro | #capurro join |
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| 11:12.55 | harpal | buzizk: no on target machine you must have grub installed thats it. there is no need to tell it |
| 11:13.00 | MrWax | how to search for apt-get packages again? |
| 11:13.11 | harpal | what ever command I gave you is perfect to install grub on target machine |
| 11:13.14 | capurro | need help eggdrop |
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| 11:14.28 | buzizk | harpal; im replacing an existing boot HD not installing a new box |
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| 11:15.11 | harpal | buzizk: tell be brief? |
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| 11:15.38 | buzizk | what? |
| 11:15.56 | zerohero | hi! i'm having some problems with gdm, it gives short freezes/lockups. does anyone know what might cause that? tried google and debian bugreports but nothing found |
| 11:16.14 | harpal | you are trying to install new grub on same system? |
| 11:16.23 | zerohero | i'm using nvidia drivers, but same result with nv and vesa |
| 11:16.34 | zerohero | and xdm doesn't have the same problem |
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| 11:17.01 | buzizk | harpal: yes, on the new HD |
| 11:17.07 | buzizk | harpal: the old one is dying |
| 11:17.51 | harpal | buzizk: so you copy whole thing to new HD? |
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| 11:19.21 | buzizk | harpal yes |
| 11:19.26 | andreyv | what difference between "news.err /var/log/news/news.err" and "news.notice -/var/log/news/news.notice", to tell another words what "-" means? |
| 11:19.34 | andreyv | ..in syslog.conf |
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| 11:20.22 | Caelum | is there something like "disown" in plain bourne shell? |
| 11:20.33 | WormFood | "disown"? |
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| 11:20.54 | harpal | buzizk: how you copy it? attaching to another linux system? or used live cd |
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| 11:21.04 | Caelum | like "foo & disown" in bash |
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| 11:21.36 | buzizk | harpal on the same system |
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| 11:25.22 | buzizk | <buzizk> harpal on the same system |
| 11:25.36 | PriitM | brand new installation of lenny crashes upon Starting Hardware abstraction layer: hald |
| 11:25.42 | PriitM | Damaged hardware? |
| 11:25.48 | harpal | buzizk: ok. so you mount new harddisk to same system and start copying?? |
| 11:26.26 | buzizk | harpal yeah |
| 11:26.49 | buzizk | i just dont get how would grub find its config files |
| 11:26.59 | harpal | buzizk: ok so where did you mount it? |
| 11:27.07 | buzizk | /newHD |
| 11:27.17 | buzizk | but im going to mount it to / ofcourse |
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| 11:27.58 | harpal | buzizk: what does it? /dev/sda ? |
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| 11:29.50 | buzizk | /dev/hdb |
| 11:29.58 | jester45 | grub is magical and no human can understand its intracies |
| 11:30.00 | harpal | buzizk: grub-install --recheck --root-directory=/newHD /dev/hdb |
| 11:30.14 | Paul_UK | hi all, i've been building some packages with success so far. But Im having an issue building ImageMagick (an old ver). Here is my output : http://pastebin.com/m73068795 If someone can let me know what Im missing, I'd be grateful for any help. |
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| 11:30.27 | harpal | buzizk: run that command. attach new harddisk. remove old one. and stat your system. |
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| 11:34.14 | buzizk | harpal: wouldn't that force me to have /newHD/boot on the new drive? |
| 11:34.50 | harpal | buzizk: yes it should be on new drive. without how can it install grub |
| 11:35.17 | buzizk | well |
| 11:35.27 | buzizk | /newHD will be / when i replace the drives |
| 11:35.56 | harpal | buzizk: yes |
| 11:36.01 | jester45 | buzizk, are you meaning /dev/hdb/newHD/boot ? |
| 11:36.13 | harpal | and you dont need old drive |
| 11:36.18 | jester45 | buzizk, the command is saying to use /newHD as the / |
| 11:36.40 | jester45 | so that the files are put under /newhd/boot and not /boot |
| 11:37.15 | harpal | jester45: it has /newHD mounted to new harddisk and he is installing grub to it |
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| 11:37.41 | buzizk | yes so i shouldn't use /newhd in grub |
| 11:37.50 | buzizk | it would just try to use the /boot right? |
| 11:38.19 | jester45 | i know ive been watching the converation |
| 11:38.35 | buzizk | ok so --root-directory=/newHD isn't right |
| 11:38.37 | buzizk | ? |
| 11:38.41 | harpal | buzizk: Ohh after running that command you dont need to change anything in grub.conf. |
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| 11:39.50 | buzizk | after the one with --root-directory=/newHD? |
| 11:40.23 | harpal | grub-install --recheck --root-directory=/newHD /dev/hdb |
| 11:40.39 | buzizk | im goind to make /dev/hdb be /dev/hda |
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| 11:41.00 | buzizk | so i dont think i need to do the /newHD thingie in grub-install |
| 11:41.01 | harpal | yes, Just reboot your system and remove old harddisk atach new one. |
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| 11:41.13 | buzizk | so i dont get how the --root-directory works |
| 11:41.21 | buzizk | it writes that value to the MBR right? |
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| 11:41.53 | harpal | buzizk: grub takes things from BIOS. so it doesnt have problem in hda hdb |
| 11:42.03 | buzizk | dude |
| 11:42.04 | buzizk | i know that |
| 11:42.19 | buzizk | i mean i dont need to change the config even if i dont do --root-directory=/newHD |
| 11:42.20 | harpal | buzizk: after running that command it has write MBR to your new harddisk |
| 11:42.26 | buzizk | cause im going to use hdb as hda after that |
| 11:42.32 | buzizk | nvm i have to leave |
| 11:42.35 | buzizk | ill just try it |
| 11:42.37 | buzizk | thanks man |
| 11:42.46 | buzizk | jester45 thank you to |
| 11:42.48 | buzizk | too |
| 11:43.05 | harpal | buzizk: if its wont work than try hdb. that you can change afterword :) |
| 11:43.19 | harpal | no need to attach it to another system |
| 11:43.24 | harpal | and re run that command |
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| 11:57.58 | harpal | I cant open menu. If I click on menu. it shows it, but if I release left mouse button it disappears. so I cant get menu working |
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| 12:00.01 | Arafangion | harpal, Depending on which window manager you use, that could well be how it worls. |
| 12:00.03 | Arafangion | *works. |
| 12:00.21 | harpal | Arafangion: I have gnome |
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| 12:01.49 | Arafangion | hardnrg, I can't remember how gnome works. |
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| 12:02.57 | morbyte1 | harpal: sound stupid, but try by not releasing the mouse button... |
| 12:03.24 | harpal | morbyte1: I tried but it doesnt select that option in menu |
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| 12:07.13 | tralala | harpal, wireless mouse? |
| 12:07.42 | harpal | tralala: no PS2 3button |
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| 12:08.09 | tralala | harpal, try clicking every mouse button, just in case some button release event didn't make it |
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| 12:08.23 | tralala | also try switching to a text console and back |
| 12:09.11 | morbyte1 | harpal: to understand fully: you can click on "applications" and the submenu pops up, but youre not able to select sth in the submenu? |
| 12:09.33 | harpal | tralala: in every mouse button its doing same thing. Let me try restarting system |
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| 12:10.10 | harpal | morbyte1: If I click on applications and release mouse button to select submenu that application menu disappear |
| 12:12.20 | harpal | brb, restarting |
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| 12:18.22 | morbyte1 | is there any magical command which is able to tell me which display driver my xorg is using atm? |
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| 12:19.13 | tralala | morbyte1, pager /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 12:19.46 | morbyte1 | tralala: aye! thanks |
| 12:20.03 | tralala | morbyte1, you're welcome |
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| 12:20.50 | harpal | Still have same problem:( |
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| 12:25.33 | morbyte1 | harpal: go into a terminal and start xev, then go in the fresh window and check if you can see your mouse actions, while trying not to move the mouse... |
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| 12:27.13 | harpal | morbyte1: no if I dont move my mouse it doesnt show any thing |
| 12:27.55 | morbyte1 | harpal: clicking doesnt show two paragraphs? (for pressing & releasing) ? |
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| 12:28.48 | harpal | morbyte1: yes it shows me. let me pastebin it |
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| 12:29.39 | harpal | morbyte1: http://pastebin.ca/1187344 |
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| 12:30.18 | SidGBF | Guys, I have a ShitOS dedicated server... A friend of mine once changed the OS of a DS while rebooting, is it hard to do? |
| 12:30.48 | MrWax | what would /etc/init.d/inetd restart do wrong? |
| 12:30.52 | MrWax | kick the ssh logged in users? |
| 12:31.14 | Orbixx | I'd figure out what inetd does first. |
| 12:31.17 | Orbixx | :) |
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| 12:31.33 | MrWax | Inetd has to be restarted after changing the configuration. Either killall -HUP inetd or /etc/init.d/inetd restart should do the job on most systems. |
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| 12:31.40 | MrWax | I can't even find /etc/init.d/inetd |
| 12:32.09 | Orbixx | Changing the configuration of what? |
| 12:32.12 | Bastihase | MrWax what is inetd ?¿? |
| 12:32.19 | HNSZ | Hello I want to restart the named, and I'm looking for it in init.d but I can only find bind9. Now I'm not sure what I should do to restart the named |
| 12:32.22 | harpal | morbyte1: When I try to resize my window if I click once it got double click and it become maximize :( |
| 12:32.37 | vlt | Hello. Is it possible to install openssh-server into the initrd image? |
| 12:32.51 | Bastihase | apt-get update |
| 12:32.53 | harpal | HNSZ: bind9 will start named |
| 12:32.57 | Orbixx | HNSZ: Just restart bind9. |
| 12:32.59 | tralala | harpal, perhaps you have selected wrong mouse protocol |
| 12:33.11 | Orbixx | /etc/init.d/bind9 restart |
| 12:33.12 | morbyte1 | harpal: for what i can figure out, at least your mouse1 seems to be working... BUT: its strange that you pasted a "press, press, release, release" sequence |
| 12:33.41 | morbyte1 | harpal: instead of press, release, press, release. |
| 12:34.05 | harpal | tralala: in xorg.conf? |
| 12:34.24 | tralala | MrWax, grep inetd /etc/init.d/ -r |
| 12:34.42 | tralala | harpal, yes |
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| 12:34.58 | harpal | tralala: ok. let me check |
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| 12:35.06 | morbyte1 | harpal: show us your inputdevice from xorg.conf |
| 12:35.52 | MrWax | tralala: what does that do? |
| 12:36.13 | harpal | Identifier "Configured Mouse" |
| 12:36.14 | harpal | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:37.42 | harpal | morbyte1: I am on lenny. brb restarting xserver |
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| 12:38.08 | tralala | MrWax, searches for the init script that (re)starts initd |
| 12:38.24 | nirupama | I am not able to select some locales |
| 12:38.29 | nirupama | from locales file |
| 12:39.04 | nirupama | my /etc/locale-gen shows that particular language but dpkg-reconfigure locales does not show up those locales |
| 12:39.10 | nirupama | may I know how to set the, |
| 12:39.29 | MrWax | tralala: /etc/init.d/openbsd-inetd:# Provides: inetd |
| 12:39.33 | MrWax | is that the correct one? |
| 12:39.40 | nirupama | MrWax, any idea |
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| 12:40.11 | tralala | MrWax, yes |
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| 12:41.30 | MrWax | tralala: would it break my connection of my box to the internet? |
| 12:41.34 | MrWax | nirupama: no sorry |
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| 12:41.52 | oCrypticfrtune | ok, so why might I be getting "can't open /proc/acpi/event: Device or resource busy" when trying to install/start acpid? (running lenny on 2.6.25-2-686-bigmem) |
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| 12:41.58 | nirupama | MrWax, where can i get support for language related queries |
| 12:42.17 | MrWax | I think probably here, but I never worked with those |
| 12:42.22 | MrWax | or #linux |
| 12:42.26 | xingu | oCrypticfrtune: becase your application is obsolete; acpi now generates events via input framework |
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| 12:43.45 | oCrypticfrtune | xingu: hmmm, then powersaved is obsolete? |
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| 12:43.54 | SidGBF | Guys... is it hard to change the OS of a machine using chroot? |
| 12:44.06 | tarzeau | SidGBF: depends |
| 12:44.16 | tarzeau | SidGBF: from which os to which os? |
| 12:44.27 | SidGBF | tarzeau: ShitOS to Debian |
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| 12:44.38 | tralala | MrWax, no, it won't |
| 12:44.42 | tarzeau | SidGBF: if shitos has debootstrap and chroot, it should be easy |
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| 12:45.02 | xingu | oCrypticfrtune: suggest so, yes; log a bug; cite src/linux/Documentation/feature-removal-schedule.txt: When: February 2008 |
| 12:45.15 | SidGBF | tarzeau: You mean if it has this things installed? |
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| 12:45.30 | tarzeau | SidGBF: the tools for installation of debian, yes |
| 12:45.31 | oCrypticfrtune | Ultimately I'm trying to get this system to turn off nicely when I push the powerbutton (at the moment, it ignores it). where should i be looking? |
| 12:45.59 | xingu | oCrypticfrtune: possibly, acpid |
| 12:46.16 | SidGBF | tarzeau: how do I check it? |
| 12:46.21 | oCrypticfrtune | xingu: k, thanks |
| 12:46.59 | tarzeau | SidGBF: just try installing? or type debootstrap in the command line? |
| 12:47.14 | tarzeau | SidGBF: shouldn't be too hard to get that installed on some other linux. if you have windows it's easy too using |
| 12:47.18 | tarzeau | !goodbye microsoft |
| 12:47.18 | dpkg | from memory, goodbye microsoft is http://www.goodbye-microsoft.com/ (Debian installer which runs from a current Windows session). |
| 12:47.23 | oCrypticfrtune | xingu: wait a sec...but acpid doesn't work....so how's that going to help? =P |
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| 12:49.02 | PriitM | If 2 brand new installations of Debian Lenny on different hard drives crash at the same point in runlevel 2, but won't crash in single user mode. Should I mess with software or hardware? |
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| 12:49.18 | Absolute0 | How can I check if a driver is registered for my wireless card? |
| 12:49.57 | tralala | Absolute0, iwconfig |
| 12:50.01 | tralala | PriitM, software |
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| 12:50.58 | f0rsaken198 | hi |
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| 12:51.24 | harpal | tralala: now wvery thing works fine. I have some problem in ServerLayout Section. which I have removed and its working fine now |
| 12:51.41 | tralala | harpal, great |
| 12:51.59 | harpal | morbyte1: Thanks, Its working fine |
| 12:52.20 | f0rsaken198 | i' getting an error whe trying to install debian "debootstrap: dpkg: syntax error: unknown user 'root' in statoverride file" |
| 12:52.26 | xingu | oCrypticfrtune: you could try using dbus-monitor to see if hald was picking up the event and doing anything with it? |
| 12:52.31 | Absolute0 | tralala: http://rafb.net/p/j0SD8S36.html |
| 12:52.31 | f0rsaken198 | can smb help please?) |
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| 12:54.36 | oCrypticfrtune | xingu: yup, pushing the powerbutton correctly gets a hal "ButtonPressed" "power" event |
| 12:54.52 | PriitM | tralala, thanks. Also I would like to know if anyone else has had trouble with Debian Lenny netinstalls lately? Mostly system crashing upon loading services(MTA, hald, cups mostly) |
| 12:54.53 | xingu | oCrypticfrtune: ok so the real problem is why isn't hald doing anything with it |
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| 12:55.31 | tralala | Absolute0, yes, your wireless driver is loaded |
| 12:56.41 | oCrypticfrtune | xingu: so normally what would be configuring hald to cause a shutdown on the powerbutton event? |
| 12:56.45 | f0rsaken198 | Íåóæåëè òàê òðóäíî ïîäñêàçàòü åïò? |
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| 12:57.48 | morbyte1 | does the radeonhd driver already support hardware accelerated opengl? (like compiz, or games?) |
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| 12:58.24 | f0rsaken198 | îäíèì ñëîâîì...ïåíäîñû) |
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| 12:58.48 | SidGBF | f0rsaken198: that's weird |
| 12:59.15 | f0rsaken198 | what exectly? |
| 12:59.21 | f0rsaken198 | exactly* |
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| 13:00.51 | xingu | oCrypticfrtune: is acpi-support installed? |
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| 13:01.15 | xingu | oCrypticfrtune: I'm not too sure how hald actually routes its events if there's nothing external (like gnome power manager) monitoring dbus |
| 13:01.17 | f0rsaken198 | ïëÿòü |
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| 13:02.05 | oCrypticfrtune | no, but these are http://rafb.net/p/XAe4Dc58.html (dpkg -l | grep power) |
| 13:02.38 | blubberdiblub | f0rsaken198, you're using a strange charset. |
| 13:03.18 | xingu | oCrypticfrtune: ok maybe install it - it's just possible that'll sort it all out. |
| 13:03.38 | f0rsaken198 | russian))) |
| 13:03.57 | blubberdiblub | f0rsaken198, yeah, i guessed so, but this is english only here |
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| 13:04.30 | f0rsaken198 | i know, but thats how i can get smbs attention) |
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| 13:04.43 | oCrypticfrtune | xingu: hmm, that depends on acpid which can't start.... |
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| 13:05.48 | f0rsaken198 | "debootstrap: dpkg: syntax error: unknown user 'root' in statoverride file" when trying to install the base system (Lenny). |
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| 13:06.34 | oCrypticfrtune | f0rsaken198: you are starting from an empty directory, right? |
| 13:06.35 | azeem | f0rsaken198: which version of debootstrap? |
| 13:06.53 | abrotman | azeem: are you aware of a #debian-samba anywhere ? |
| 13:07.23 | xingu | oCrypticfrtune: try stopping hald first then installing acpid ? |
| 13:07.29 | azeem | no |
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| 13:07.54 | oCrypticfrtune | xingu: that sounds suspiciously like hald may never start again, but i'll give it a shot.... |
| 13:08.37 | f0rsaken198 | azeem: dont know exactly, i'm kind of a newbie ( |
| 13:08.50 | azeem | f0rsaken198: then why are you running debootstrap in the first place? |
| 13:09.16 | f0rsaken198 | azeem: i'm trying to install the base system) |
| 13:09.36 | xingu | oCrypticfrtune: there's two relevant bugs here; 1/ historical acpid bug that prevented it starting if the acpi procfs event interface was present, but previously locked/consumed by hald; and what I suspect is a more recent 2/ the procfs is just plain gone and yet acpid is still a dependancy for acpi-support |
| 13:09.50 | harpal | tralala: Can you help me in setting up sound on my system? |
| 13:09.52 | f0rsaken198 | oCrypticfrtune: i'm starting from cd) |
| 13:09.57 | harpal | I tried alas-checklist |
| 13:10.00 | xingu | oCrypticfrtune: what I suspect is the right answer is to deprecate acpid properly - hald does what it does, better. |
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| 13:10.25 | xingu | oCrypticfrtune: unfortunately to debug this outcome you need to first satisfy the dep to get acpi-support to even install locally |
| 13:10.39 | azeem | f0rsaken198: so what are you doing exactly when you get this message? |
| 13:10.46 | xingu | oCrypticfrtune: and this in turn may require you rebooting to an older kernel (still having the procfs interface) to prove the point. |
| 13:10.49 | azeem | f0rsaken198: and which version of Debian are you installing? |
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| 13:12.33 | rati | debian version 4.0 means etch? |
| 13:12.37 | f0rsaken198 | azeem: Lenny, and doing nothing, just boot from cd, language, charset, partition configuration, and then installation of the base system |
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| 13:12.50 | oCrypticfrtune | xingu: hmmm, looks like this bug is already known #462467 strange that this isn't higher priority... |
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| 13:13.16 | azeem | f0rsaken198: "Lenny" is not sufficient. Beta2? |
| 13:13.31 | azeem | f0rsaken198: and this message just pops up? |
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| 13:14.01 | mliszka | hallo i try ircII :) |
| 13:14.07 | xingu | oCrypticfrtune: welcome to sid |
| 13:14.19 | pozic | When I upgrade my Debian system it takes a few _hours_ to install everything, not counting the time to download the upgrades. I think this is way too long. Moreover, it also asks stupid questions in the middle of the upgrade. |
| 13:14.52 | azeem | pozic: which version of Debian? |
| 13:14.57 | pozic | If it's going to aks a question, either ask everything at the beginning or everything at the end. |
| 13:15.01 | SidGBF | ricardomips: Yo :p |
| 13:15.04 | tralala | harpal, did you paste the session I asked? |
| 13:15.10 | Maliuta | pozic: how often are you upgrading? how much crud is installed? what are the specs? |
| 13:15.17 | mliszka | lusers |
| 13:15.26 | pozic | azeem: sid |
| 13:15.26 | f0rsaken198 | azeem: yes |
| 13:15.41 | pozic | Maliuta: once every few months. |
| 13:15.44 | Maliuta | pozic: it sounds like it's i/o strapped and you think the questions are stupid because of ignorance |
| 13:15.46 | azeem | pozic: don't use sid then |
| 13:16.03 | azeem | Maliuta: eh, don't assert ignorance, please |
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| 13:16.31 | harpal | tralala: whole alsachecklist procedure? |
| 13:16.34 | f0rsaken198 | azeem: and the problem is, that older version wint support my hardware |
| 13:16.40 | f0rsaken198 | *wint |
| 13:16.43 | pozic | Maliuta: the questions are stupid because they are asked at the wrong time. |
| 13:16.45 | f0rsaken198 | *wont |
| 13:17.21 | pozic | Maliuta: there is no fundamental reason why the packages cannot be ordered so that the questions are closest to each other in time. |
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| 13:17.52 | Maliuta | pozic: it's called a dependency tree |
| 13:18.27 | pozic | Maliuta: and, it's using 99% CPU a lot of the time. And this I/O strapping you are talking about.. what do you mean by that? |
| 13:18.41 | pozic | Maliuta: don't tell me irrelevant trivial data. |
| 13:18.44 | tralala | harpal, yes. You can use screen for easy copy/paste |
| 13:19.13 | pozic | Maliuta: yes, and this dependency tree is not implemented in Apt as I described. |
| 13:19.25 | trukosh | I want to mount a "Novell netware 386" partition. I only find NWFS which is for 2.4-kernels. Anybody knows more? |
| 13:19.35 | Maliuta | right, so we have a truely ignorant troll |
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| 13:19.40 | Maliuta | thank god for /ignore |
| 13:19.51 | azeem | f0rsaken198: you still haven't said which version of Lenny, I think |
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| 13:20.05 | f0rsaken198 | azeem: Beta 2 |
| 13:20.17 | azeem | f0rsaken198: what kind of computer is this? |
| 13:20.29 | pozic | I just so love people who can decide I am ignorant after a few lines of text. |
| 13:20.48 | f0rsaken198 | azeem: motherboard asus p5q-pro |
| 13:21.04 | azeem | f0rsaken198: do you retry maybe? |
| 13:21.09 | harpal | tralala: ok, brb |
| 13:21.14 | pozic | For example the "fc-cache" program. That's the fourth time I see that running now. |
| 13:21.45 | f0rsaken198 | azeem: i've already tried fo i think 6 times, and tried to "reburn" the image, but nothing helps |
| 13:21.46 | pozic | It's the same with the localdef stuff that takes up ages everytime with probably little to no changes. |
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| 13:22.03 | pozic | Anyone who thinks that's "good" is crazy. |
| 13:22.10 | azeem | f0rsaken198: no idea then, sorry |
| 13:22.21 | azeem | f0rsaken198: you could try etchnahalf, maybe that supports your hardware |
| 13:22.25 | f0rsaken198 | azeem: anyway thanks) |
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| 13:24.00 | abrotman | I have a lenny box here running samba, every night samba becomes unresponsive, but it is still running and there doesn't seem to be anything useful in the logs. restarting samba once or twice brings it back up .. Anyone else seen something like this? (didn't see anything in the BTS) |
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| 13:24.20 | Plouj | hi |
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| 13:24.55 | xingu | trukosh: probably be easier to spin the system back up and haul the data across via ncpfs (ie as a netware client) |
| 13:24.59 | tarzeau | abrotman: do you have clients connecting to it at all? do you run a backup at that time? |
| 13:25.34 | abrotman | tarzeau: the machine doesn't get backed up .. and i'm sure there are "clients" if by that you mean other win32 hosts running over night |
| 13:25.57 | xingu | abrotman: what's the loadav/ cpu busy like at the point where where you notice the lockup? |
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| 13:26.24 | abrotman | xingu: it's not a lockup .. it just stops answering .. even `nmblookup` from the machine fails |
| 13:26.34 | azeem | abrotman: (try to ask vorlon in the other chan when he's around, maybe) |
| 13:26.39 | xingu | abrecus: from, or to? |
| 13:27.06 | xingu | s/abrecus/abrotman/ |
| 13:27.09 | abrotman | azeem: yeah .. i feel bad bothering people directly, but I guess I may have to (that's why i asked about #debian-samba) |
| 13:27.18 | abrotman | xingu: nmblookup <hostname> .. fails |
| 13:27.22 | oCrypticfrtune | abrotman: nope never seen that before. maybe you could turn on some intensive logging so you can see if there was any requests right before it died? |
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| 13:27.50 | xingu | abrotman: is the host on a static IP address or dhcp? |
| 13:27.51 | abrotman | oCrypticfrtune: the samba logging isn't very granular .. if you increase verbosity .. you get way more than just stuff about the daemon status |
| 13:27.55 | abrotman | xingu: dhcp |
| 13:28.21 | xingu | abrotman: how does nmblookup -A ip.ad.dr.es get on? |
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| 13:29.59 | xingu | abrecus: ... what I'm getting at is that it's possible that the daemon is binding to an ip address and that the lease has rotated out from under smbd's feet |
| 13:30.08 | xingu | s/abrecus/abrotman/ ... again |
| 13:30.20 | abrotman | xingu: fail |
| 13:30.26 | trukosh | xingu: Thanks. That won't work, as we don't have access to server itself. We just have a image. (We wanted to convert it to a vmware-machine, but that didn't work). |
| 13:30.53 | abrotman | basically .. it's like samba isn't running at all |
| 13:31.12 | xingu | abrotman: ditto nmbd; if connects to the ip address work but to the host by name (via smb broadcast name resolution or whatever) don't, this would be highly likely |
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| 13:31.46 | xingu | abrotman: hence asking if nmblookup -A toward the server continues to function (if it does we can rule that out) |
| 13:32.15 | abrotman | basically .. all netbios functions cease to function .. both lookign for it from another box, or from the box itself |
| 13:32.25 | oCrypticfrtune | abrotman: attach to smbd/nmbd with strace and see if it's actually not doing _anything_? or maybe you could spy on how xingu's nmblookups are failing? |
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| 13:33.01 | xingu | abrotman: _from_ the box is a different kettle of fish; is it learning a wrong netmask? |
| 13:33.03 | abrotman | there's nothing in the logs .. basically it stops putting anything in the logs once it stops responding |
| 13:33.08 | abrotman | xingu: dhcp ? |
| 13:33.12 | xingu | abrotman: yup. |
| 13:33.26 | abrotman | xingu: that'd be odd and likely cause other netbios thigns to fail |
| 13:33.37 | xingu | (you wouldn't believe the number of hours I've wasted troubleshooting windows name resolution problems) |
| 13:33.40 | abrotman | xingu: I can query other hostnames with nmblookup |
| 13:33.50 | abrotman | but it cannot resolve itself |
| 13:33.51 | xingu | abrotman: oh, so just not loopback |
| 13:34.28 | abrotman | i've never seen samba fail like this unless the whole thing crashed |
| 13:34.35 | xingu | abrotman: regardless, if a loopback query by name still fails, then listening-on-wrong-address is still a candidate |
| 13:35.04 | abrotman | which port? 135? |
| 13:35.05 | xingu | abrotman: doubly so if the dhcpd is one of those that bounces link status when refreshing |
| 13:35.29 | abrotman | hrm .. 135 is missing, but 137/138 are there listening |
| 13:35.44 | xingu | abrotman: 137 and 445 (cifs doesn't need/use netbios name services) |
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| 13:36.53 | harpal | how to use screen? I dont have sound working. so I want to paste whole alsa checklist procedure |
| 13:36.55 | abrotman | too bad i can't make it fail at will to do testing as i wish |
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| 13:37.21 | xingu | abrotman: next time through grab a strace -fpw from both nmbd and smbd then hit it with nmblookup -A |
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| 13:37.49 | xingu | abrotman: if it's _completely_ dead to the world, grab lsof -p as well |
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| 13:38.24 | xingu | abrotman: nb I've also seen it do stupid things when reopenning logfiles |
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| 13:38.33 | abrotman | zilch |
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| 13:39.16 | abrotman | or does lsof -p only do tcp ? |
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| 13:40.03 | abrotman | it says smbd is attached to 139/tcp |
| 13:40.17 | Paul_UK | hi, does anyone here build packages with dh_make? |
| 13:40.30 | xingu | abrotman: that sounds right; nmbd should be on 137/udp from memory |
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| 13:41.25 | xingu | abrotman: it's odd that smbd isn't also listening on 445 - that implies that somehow cifs is knackered. |
| 13:41.41 | abrotman | xingu: sorry .. it is on 445 also |
| 13:42.21 | abrotman | the machine isn't doing any shares .. just basically there for the nmb lookup stuff |
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| 13:42.48 | xingu | abrotman: right, so it's probably nmbd that you actually care about |
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| 13:43.07 | agave | what do you think about the graphical installer in lenny? |
| 13:43.13 | abrotman | hrm .. 139 is only on the ipv6 |
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| 13:43.42 | abrotman | xingu: http://paste.debian.net/15833/ |
| 13:43.55 | xingu | abrotman: are you using ipv6 privacy extentions? (ie, does your link local address rotate) ? |
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| 13:44.12 | xingu | abrotman: _that_ is just new enough of a concept to kill it too. |
| 13:44.35 | pothibo | jon___ : are you there ? |
| 13:44.41 | xingu | abrotman: paste not found on that # |
| 13:44.55 | abrotman | xingu: http://paste.debian.net/15834/ ... cleansed a bit |
| 13:45.11 | SidGBF | Guys, we're switching from CentOS to Debian with chroot, does anyone have some tips to make it easyer? |
| 13:45.17 | abrotman | xingu: no .. no ipv6 here |
| 13:45.28 | abrotman | SidGBF: using Debian, or the chroot? |
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| 13:45.43 | SidGBF | abrotman: chroot, lol :p |
| 13:45.53 | abrotman | !debootstrap |
| 13:45.54 | dpkg | well, debootstrap is <caphuso> get the debootstrap source from http://packages.debian.org/debootstrap, compile it, read the man page, install debian with it </caphuso> Useful for installing in a <chroot>. http://people.debian.org/~walters/chroot.html, or see http://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap, or key to Installing Debian GNU/Linux from a Unix/Linux System. See to the release specific Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide for more details. |
| 13:45.57 | blubberdiblub | abrotman, ":::139" would be okay, in that case it should listen for ipv4 connections, too |
| 13:46.00 | xingu | abrotman: fair do; ok well the hammer to hit it with is strace against nmbd |
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| 13:46.32 | abrotman | xingu: except that it only crashes at night .. so will generate an *insane* amount of data |
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| 13:46.43 | xingu | abrotman: and what we need to find out is whether the traffic is actually reaching the app (should be blocking in recv and wake up when it gets something to do) |
| 13:46.56 | xingu | abrotman: sure, this is a morning-after job (post-impact) |
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| 13:47.42 | abrotman | it stops logging to the nmbd.log around 5am local |
| 13:48.11 | xingu | abrotman: the scenarios I can see are - 1/ nmbd is running but too damn busy fiddling the group scheduler's knobs and creating files like crazy in sysfs (yes, it does); 2/ it's dead blocking on logfile reopen; 3/ it's working but confused about netbios-name-to-interface-address-mapping |
| 13:48.25 | abrotman | i guess with cron.daily .. which is strange .. considering the daily samba cron job doesn't do much at all |
| 13:48.49 | abrotman | the one thing i do see kind of odd is that the 'updatedb' stuff is still running hours later |
| 13:49.06 | xingu | abrotman: there's some cute things in that department; from memory (it's been a decade!) on _reopen_ nmbd is trying to creat _after_ dropping privilege |
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| 13:49.32 | xingu | abrotman: and it really can get its panties in a bunch if that fails. |
| 13:49.33 | blubberdiblub | abrotman, check /etc/logrotate.d/samba too |
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| 13:49.58 | zxxd | since what ver did the init script started printing ok messages |
| 13:50.00 | zxxd | invoke-rc.d openbsd-inetd restart |
| 13:50.00 | zxxd | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:50.02 | zxxd | ?? |
| 13:50.18 | zxxd | i never saw it |
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| 13:51.09 | abrotman | xingu: a fair amount of free ram .. and the machine isn't loaded |
| 13:51.23 | abrotman | (though it's currently doing a huge rsync) |
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| 13:51.50 | abrotman | kills the find |
| 13:51.52 | zxxd | rsync can bring a machine to a halt |
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| 13:52.09 | xingu | abrotman: referring to 1/ - it doesn't matter; I've seen a system recently absolutely flog itself to bits; the group scheduler raises udev events when a new scheduling group joins the party |
| 13:52.12 | hulatang | How can I check the firewall setting on my debian host? |
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| 13:52.21 | xingu | abrotman: and if either nmbd or smbd go nuts they can absolutely kill you |
| 13:52.29 | pothibo | I'm trying to configure dhcpd.conf but I fail misernably.. is there any site that could give me some help? |
| 13:52.40 | xingu | abrotman: hence asking about loadav; you'd be looking at 100% cpu busy but loadav 1-2 or so. |
| 13:53.01 | abrotman | zxxd: it wasn't giong on when samba died |
| 13:53.09 | abrotman | hulatang: it doesn't have one unless you made one |
| 13:53.37 | xingu | abrotman: if you're lucky it might be shm exhaustion (and a memory leak) |
| 13:54.06 | abrotman | well .. i'm going to give it a minute to "calm down" |
| 13:54.08 | xingu | abrotman: maybe capture a baseline ipcs -m to again compare/contrast after impact |
| 13:54.17 | hulatang | my debian host is blocking msn messenger services somehow, is there network analyze tool I can use in debian to see what's going on? |
| 13:54.25 | abrotman | will be back in a minute |
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| 13:55.08 | tralala | hulatang, there are plenty of tools, e.g. wireshark, tcpdump, iptraf |
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| 13:57.35 | harpal | tralala: hey how can i use screen? Dont know. tried google didnt get it much? |
| 13:58.12 | tralala | harpal, type "screen" |
| 13:58.51 | harpal | tralala: ok I get a screen. Now start typing command? |
| 13:59.06 | tralala | now activate loggin |
| 13:59.11 | tralala | logging |
| 13:59.15 | WormFood | invest a little bit of time to learn screen...it is well worth the effort |
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| 14:00.06 | NeonLightning | harpal: try running top in that command line then pressing crtl+a+c and then crtl+a+n |
| 14:00.14 | WormFood | <ctrl>-A-C to get a new window, <ctrl>-A-P for previous window, <ctrl>-A-N for next window....not hard to figure out the very basics.....but it is an investment of a little bit of time to learn it |
| 14:00.40 | NeonLightning | and to detach crtl+a+d and to reconnect screen -r |
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| 14:01.30 | WormFood | IIRC, it is <ctrl>-a-D (capital D)....but read the docs, I may be wrong |
| 14:01.32 | harpal | Wowwww its amazing. Can i get whole thing what I type and whats output? |
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| 14:02.08 | abrotman | blubberdiblub: the logrotate is weekly there |
| 14:02.15 | tralala | harpal, yes, you can. Type ctrl-a-H for activating the logging and proceed with the alsa checklist |
| 14:02.26 | harpal | ok |
| 14:02.28 | blubberdiblub | abrotman, that's fine then |
| 14:02.51 | abrotman | as soon as i restart samba .. works fine |
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| 14:03.48 | abrotman | and then everything looks just the same .. |
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| 14:04.01 | abrotman | i killed the samba/locate cron.daily scripts .. we'll see if that takes care of it |
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| 14:04.49 | endeavormac | If I apt-get install mysql-server, does this set it up in a chrooted environment? |
| 14:05.08 | WormFood | unlikely |
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| 14:08.31 | harpal | tralala: hey in screen it shows that its working fine. Does I exit from screen and check that? |
| 14:09.16 | pothibo | Hi, I am configuring dhcpd.conf but I have an error when I launch it saying that I have no subnet declaration for eth0.. eth0 is connected to my cable modem, and it's adresses are assigned through DHCP.. how can I declare that on dhcpd.conf ? |
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| 14:09.25 | tralala | harpal, no you paste the logs now |
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| 14:10.52 | brimstone | how do i incresase the timeout for dhclient in the debian-installer |
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| 14:11.45 | harpal | tralala: ok, here is log http://pastebin.ca/1187414 |
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| 14:13.18 | noppe | does anyone know what "remote message: [some_numbers] PSOFF001 [more_numbers] profile not sufficient" means, when ppp fails to connect? |
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| 14:14.43 | snikker | hi, can i run debian on an very old machine (P1 200Mhz - 64MB RAM - 6GB HD)? |
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| 14:14.57 | harpal | tralala: Thanks its working now. I would reboot my system and check that |
| 14:15.06 | petemc | snikker: yes |
| 14:15.10 | harpal | will be back in few minutes |
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| 14:16.25 | snikker | petemc: but can i run also a desktop environment? |
| 14:16.45 | petemc | snikker: sure, you wouldnt want to run gnome or kde tho |
| 14:17.21 | brimstone | snikker: maybe just a window manager like fluxbox |
| 14:17.32 | brimstone | xfce might be small enough |
| 14:17.39 | rmrfchik | duh, where i can get setarch? |
| 14:17.58 | brimstone | rmrfchik: as in which package provides setarch? |
| 14:18.11 | pa7iQ | hi, why doesn't gnome-mplayer deactivate gnome-screensaver during a movie ? |
| 14:18.11 | rmrfchik | yeah |
| 14:18.15 | snikker | petemc, brimstone: ok, great! thank you! |
| 14:18.20 | rmrfchik | brimstone: sure, i need package ;) |
| 14:18.22 | brimstone | rmrfchik: you can either use packages.debian.org or apt-file search |
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| 14:21.39 | kstt | hello boys and girls |
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| 14:22.04 | hoxu | hello uncle paul |
| 14:22.05 | kstt | (and others) |
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| 14:22.59 | kstt | uncle paul was wondering ... is there some folks on #debian experienced in VPN |
| 14:23.12 | hoxu | !ask-to-ask |
| 14:23.12 | dpkg | methinks ask-to-ask is Don't ask to ask...just ask. The Ask-To-Ask Protocol v 1.0 wastes more bandwidth than any version of the Ask Protocol |
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| 14:23.47 | kstt | I expected to read that hoxu :) |
| 14:23.55 | overlord-tm | i have just instaled debian system ... and apt-get wants to fetch packages from cd. how can i change thjis to fetch all from net? |
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| 14:24.05 | hoxu | !tell overlord-tm about sources.list |
| 14:24.12 | noppe | what could be a reason that suddenly all packages in apt can not be authenticated anymore? |
| 14:24.21 | hoxu | overlord-tm, comment the cdrom line out |
| 14:24.22 | DeltaS4 | does swfdec work ok? |
| 14:24.29 | hoxu | noppe, apt-get update |
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| 14:24.55 | hoxu | noppe, that can happen in aptitude at least when you cancel an update (or it fails) |
| 14:25.20 | noppe | hoxu: okay..so it's most certainly not a compromised machine? |
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| 14:25.24 | overlord-tm | ok, thnx :D |
| 14:25.26 | HNSZ | hoxu: I think it's pretty reasonable to ask if anyone knows something about a certain subject. |
| 14:25.32 | vlt | Hello. What do I need to do to enable ssh access to the system running from initrd (before root fs is mounted)? |
| 14:25.38 | kstt | well, my new-and-really-tiny company is about to launch a "ready-to-use" online service for small and medium companies. This service relies on several free tools, that run on several different boxes. Those tools need to communicate with each others, and I'd like them to do so through a private encrypted subnet |
| 14:26.11 | hoxu | HNSZ, this channel will become a mess if everyone asks if anyone knows about X, plus no one is going to reply to that "Yeah, I'm an expert regarding X, I know everything, ask me!" |
| 14:26.27 | crashanddie | kstt, you could probably create a subnet encrypted over SSH if you need to go that far |
| 14:26.50 | kstt | The farm of servers is going to grow quickly, so I'm looking for some advices about how to set up a VPN between all my nodes |
| 14:26.57 | hoxu | noppe, hrem, try running apt-get update and see if you get it anymore |
| 14:27.45 | crashanddie | kstt, how is the traffic that's going to go through each machine ? |
| 14:27.50 | noppe | hoxu: I did, and I don't get it anymore |
| 14:28.02 | kstt | crashanddie: hi load |
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| 14:28.04 | crashanddie | kstt, and you wouldn't be looking to hire someone in the London area? ;) |
| 14:28.21 | hoxu | noppe, do you have a reason to believe that your machine may be compromised? |
| 14:28.21 | kstt | crashanddie: in britany, france ... :) |
| 14:28.27 | noppe | hoxu: but if it was a compromised machine, then wouldn't running it be futile, well, at least if properly compromised.. |
| 14:28.41 | crashanddie | kstt, juste quand je pars de france, je vois plein de boulots intéressants :) |
| 14:28.53 | noppe | hoxu: well, besides the usual paranoia, i was unable to connect to my ISP for a few hours last night |
| 14:29.12 | crashanddie | kstt, SSH-VPN is probably too much encryption, and the overhead might hit the network performance severely |
| 14:29.33 | hoxu | noppe, well... if your machine is compromised, I don't see any gain from doing something like that... plus the attacker could just add more keys that are attacked and sign the packages using his keys, but again... no idea in all of that |
| 14:29.57 | hoxu | noppe, you might want to check if your apt is configured to automatically update during the night; it most likely is |
| 14:30.10 | kstt | crashanddie: my flatemate decided to leave Rennes yesterday because he found himself unable to get a decent job here |
| 14:30.22 | eth01 | there was some problems with level3 last night at about 11PM GMT |
| 14:30.24 | kstt | here someone phoned to give him a job at INRIA |
| 14:30.25 | crashanddie | kstt, I left southern France |
| 14:30.34 | kstt | today |
| 14:30.39 | hoxu | noppe, also see /etc/cron.daily/apt comments |
| 14:30.39 | eth01 | a server blew up at there london3 dc |
| 14:30.41 | noppe | hoxu: where do i check that? i'm still not really used to debian-based distros |
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| 14:31.59 | hoxu | noppe, man 5 apt.conf & see what /etc/cron.daily/apt cares about |
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| 14:33.21 | crashanddie | kstt, I would still advise you to take a look at SSH-VPN, as it is probably the highest in security you'll find |
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| 14:33.40 | crashanddie | kstt, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH_VPN has plenty of good info |
| 14:33.47 | kstt | crashanddie: I am not after hi level of encryption |
| 14:34.10 | brimstone | ssh-vpn? not openvpn? |
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| 14:34.47 | kstt | low encryption is enough, I just want an agile solution where the network can easily get new nodes, without having to reconfigure every single other nodes |
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| 14:35.30 | brimstone | kstt: i know openvpn will do that, just setup your network right beforehand |
| 14:35.44 | crashanddie | kstt, it all depends on your skills, but like brimstone said, OpenVPN is the way to go here |
| 14:36.57 | kstt | that is what I'm looking for, but reading OpenVPN docs I was under the impression that I had to set up every single point-to-point connection I need |
| 14:37.06 | kstt | on both ends |
| 14:37.15 | brimstone | kstt: you can setup just a server, then have clients connect to it as needed |
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| 14:37.20 | crashanddie | indeed |
| 14:37.29 | brimstone | nothing you need to change on the server if you use certs |
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| 14:37.39 | kstt | brimstone: and will the traffic go through the server ? |
| 14:37.45 | brimstone | if you tell it to |
| 14:38.01 | kstt | how about if I want automatic point-to-point traffic |
| 14:38.02 | pothibo_ | I am trying to configure dhcpd.conf so it gets the public IP from my ISP's DHCP server on eth0 and then get a subnet available on eth1.. when I confighure dhcpd.conf and laucnhes it it says that I have not declared a subnet for eth0... problem is that eth0 is configured by ISP's DHCP.. how can I tell DHCP about that ? |
| 14:38.09 | brimstone | depends on the config files on the server and client, mainly the "redirect-gateway" and "push route" options kstt |
| 14:38.22 | kstt | brimstone: brilliant |
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| 14:38.46 | crashanddie | brimstone++ |
| 14:38.47 | kstt | crashanddie: thank you for the pointer |
| 14:38.57 | brimstone | loves him some openvpn |
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| 14:39.14 | crashanddie | kstt, pas de soucis |
| 14:39.22 | kstt | brimstone: may I ask you if you have good experience with OpenVPN on debian ? |
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| 14:39.35 | hoxu | crashanddie, "pass the sauce"? |
| 14:39.38 | brimstone | kstt: the experience i've had with openvpn on debian has been good |
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| 14:39.47 | brimstone | kstt: little, but good |
| 14:39.49 | crashanddie | hoxu, "no problem" |
| 14:40.17 | kstt | hoxu : "pa de soossy" |
| 14:40.37 | hoxu | wonders if the needs of kstt were understood correctly |
| 14:40.41 | kstt | brimstone: ok. thanks |
| 14:41.10 | brimstone | kstt: no problem |
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| 14:41.18 | tralala | kstt, openvpn is powerful and simple. The difficult part is managing the certificates, but that's not because of openvpn |
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| 14:41.47 | petemc | the routing for openvpn can be fiddly |
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| 14:42.11 | noppe | hoxu: so, the authentication problem would be normal if apt-get update failed due to my isp being annoying last night? |
| 14:42.12 | abrotman | fiddly? sounds technical |
| 14:42.37 | petemc | tis |
| 14:42.41 | hoxu | noppe, I think so, it happens with aptitude at least, I guess apt-get is no different |
| 14:42.57 | hoxu | noppe, I repeat my question: do you have any other reason to believe your system has been compromised? :) |
| 14:43.02 | kstt | hoxu: well, basically, my company host some services on many servers that are distributed accross the internet. I want to create a virtual subnet between all nodes. I also want encrypted peer2peer transmission. Finally, I'd like not to have to declare a newcoming node to every other nodes. |
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| 14:43.15 | kstt | hoxu : do you think it was clear enought ? |
| 14:43.37 | brimstone | kstt: totally something openvpn can do |
| 14:43.40 | noppe | hoxu: not really. I was only rather surprised. |
| 14:43.48 | pothibo_ | anyone very good with dhcp ? I got an issue here... |
| 14:44.03 | brimstone | kstt: i'm not completely sure on p2p traffic though, but s2p and p2s should work without configuration on the server |
| 14:44.06 | crashanddie | pothibo_, show your dhcp conf file |
| 14:44.10 | hoxu | kstt, yes, just wanted to confirm your needs were understood, props for brimstone & crashanddie :) |
| 14:44.16 | brimstone | kstt: worst case, you'll get p2p traffic going through the server |
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| 14:45.03 | hoxu | noppe, well... the mirror could've been compromised for a while at best, but not very likely, is it? :) |
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| 14:45.21 | hoxu | noppe, especially if apt-get update fixes the issue |
| 14:45.42 | kstt | thanks hoxu :) |
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| 14:46.08 | Contact_Void_ | hi there! I'm having a problem: all outgoing connections from my debian box are refused. this makes apt-get upgrade sad :( can anyone give me a hint on where to look? |
| 14:46.21 | kstt | brimstone: in my case, I really need to have direct node-to-node traffic |
| 14:46.34 | crashanddie | Contact_Void_, can you ping your router ? |
| 14:46.40 | noppe | hoxu: yes. I was only surprised, you know, after having seen ppp's cryptic message of pap-authentication-fail last night. |
| 14:46.41 | kstt | because a hi load of data will go through |
| 14:47.00 | kstt | so a central server would callapse |
| 14:47.06 | Contact_Void | i can ping everyone^^ |
| 14:47.12 | Contact_Void | problem is i can't connect |
| 14:47.21 | hoxu | Contact_Void, tcptraceroute? |
| 14:47.30 | crashanddie | Contact_Void, can you state a more complete error message ? |
| 14:47.36 | pothibo_ | crashanddie: http://pastebin.com/m47f47a01 |
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| 14:48.16 | hoxu | noppe, oh, no clue about that, if you are worried /msg dpkg compromise check & /msg dpkg compromised system... the latter may be overdoing it ;) |
| 14:48.55 | Contact_Void | all it does say is connect refused... if i do e.g. `traceroute www.google.de` it stops after the secound one (my isp) |
| 14:49.35 | crashanddie | kstt, "By default, OpenVPN runs in point-to-point mode ("p2p"). OpenVPN 2.0 introduces a new mode ("server") which implements a multi-client server capability." |
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| 14:50.06 | crashanddie | pothibo_, and the complete error message ? |
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| 14:50.50 | noppe | hoxu: thanks. |
| 14:50.52 | kstt | crashanddie: thx. I need to know if I can run it in p2p mode but with a central server handling configuration for all nodes |
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| 14:51.08 | hoxu | Contact_Void, what does tcptraceroute show you? Does it stop at ISP's gateway as well? |
| 14:51.11 | kstt | but I guess there are means to do that anyway |
| 14:51.36 | tralala | kstt, by p2p mode do you mean the nodes to communicate with each other through the vpn? |
| 14:51.46 | Contact_Void | damn router settings... sorry to bother you, but thanks anyways |
| 14:52.14 | pothibo_ | crashanddie: no subnet declaration for eth0 |
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| 14:53.11 | kstt | tralala: yes I do. |
| 14:53.43 | tralala | kstt, openvpn can do that - there's an option allowing routing between the clients |
| 14:54.01 | Nyle | hi |
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| 14:54.35 | kstt | tralala: have you ever set up OpenVPN in this way ? |
| 14:54.52 | kstt | because that's what I'm trying to understand |
| 14:55.05 | tralala | kstt, no I haven't used this particular option, but since it's there it should just work |
| 14:55.52 | kstt | hopefully :) |
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| 14:58.55 | crashanddie | kstt, "Because the OpenVPN server mode handles multiple clients through a single tun or tap interface, it is effectively a router. The --client-to-client flag tells OpenVPN to internally route client-to-client traffic rather than pushing all client-originating traffic to the TUN/TAP interface. When this option is used, each client will "see" the other clients which are currently connected. Otherwise, each client will only |
| 14:58.55 | crashanddie | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:00.35 | crashanddie | kstt, that should answer all your questions :) |
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| 15:01.43 | kstt | crashanddie: how I understand the paragraph above is that the central server would route traffic in both case. |
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| 15:01.54 | crashanddie | no |
| 15:02.37 | kstt | ah |
| 15:02.42 | jthomas | what does the score mean in aptitude? i am getting 'score is 98' 'score is -300' and I have no idea what this means |
| 15:03.05 | hoxu | kstt, I understand it the same way, but I haven't any clue anyway.. |
| 15:03.07 | crashanddie | "Le drapeau --client-to-client indique à OpenVPN de rediriger le traffic de client-vers-client plutôt que de pousser tout le traffic venant de clients à travers l'interface TUN/TAP" |
| 15:03.31 | kstt | crashanddie: thank you, but still ... :) |
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| 15:03.47 | crashanddie | I don't see how this can be ambiguous |
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| 15:04.56 | kstt | jthomas: this is the score of the last game aptitude did. This software plays with your packages dependencies, and sometime does terrible scores |
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| 15:06.28 | blubberdiblub | jthomas, that's the problem resolver of aptitude that comes into effect when it tries to resolve conflicts. it weights certain kinds of dependencies with certain points and sums them up. it does that for all possible solutions and chooses the one with the highest score as default solution |
| 15:06.32 | kstt | crashanddie: what is "OpenVPN" above ? Is it the central server ? Also what does "pushing traffic" means ? |
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| 15:07.12 | crashanddie | kstt, "pushing traffic" means that it will not route the traffic through the central server, rather, will make a direct connection to the other client |
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| 15:07.33 | crashanddie | well, no, it doesn't mean that, but that's what I want you to understand |
| 15:07.34 | jthomas | thanks, blubberdiblub, but what if it offers many with different scores? is there somewhere to read about this? |
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| 15:07.59 | kstt | how can an in-the-middle node make a direct connection between ends ? |
| 15:08.29 | crashanddie | kstt, I'm guessing the server will tell how to find the other node, that's what it means by "seeing" the other nodes |
| 15:08.33 | blubberdiblub | jthomas, then there are more than 1 possible solution. choose the solution that best fits what you want. (or none, if no solution suits you, and resolve the conflicts by hand) |
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| 15:09.06 | kstt | crashanddie: by the way, some friend of mines easily found good jobs in Dublin, Ireland |
| 15:09.06 | blubberdiblub | jthomas, the default weights should be documented in aptitude's html manual |
| 15:09.19 | crashanddie | kstt, yeah, but I'm in London :P |
| 15:09.32 | kstt | crashanddie: and you want to stay I guess |
| 15:09.43 | crashanddie | kstt, girlfriend, flat, yeah, all that |
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| 15:10.02 | kstt | ok |
| 15:10.52 | kardan | channel flooding and no staff aroun??? flood for yourself!! |
| 15:11.17 | hoxu | kardan? |
| 15:11.51 | kardan | I didn't say that... |
| 15:11.54 | kardan | it just appeared |
| 15:11.56 | kardan | sorry |
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| 15:12.16 | JshWright_ | testing...1...2...3... |
| 15:12.18 | hoxu | kardan, we don't support mental issues here, try ##windows instead ;) |
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| 15:16.59 | jthomas | so then blubberdiblub is a higher score better/safer? I wanted to dist-upgrade and the first option was a score of like 330, then -300, then the *third* option was like 1200... if higher is better wouldn't it be the first option presented? |
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| 15:19.23 | blubberdiblub | jthomas, well, higher scores should be what aptitude thinks is better. but i usually use the ncurses interface, so frankly, i don't know how aptitude outputs solutions on the console |
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| 15:19.48 | asdzxc_ | hi |
| 15:20.10 | asdzxc_ | can someone help me with sudo ? i want to allow one user to run /usr/bin/lsof -i | grep -v '(LISTEN)' without password |
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| 15:20.19 | jthomas | maan this needs soe online documentation or something, its making no sense. ok I am dist upgrading with the score of 1348 and we'll see how bjorked it gets. |
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| 15:22.20 | tralala | asdzxc_, configure sudo to allow the user to run: /usr/bin/lsof -i |
| 15:22.41 | asdzxc_ | tralala is it possible to allow run lsof _only_ with parameter -i ? |
| 15:22.44 | asdzxc_ | no other parameters |
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| 15:24.26 | tralala | asdzxc_, yes |
| 15:24.45 | tralala | Cmnd_Alias LSOF = /usr/bin/lsof -i |
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| 15:25.54 | asdzxc_ | min ALL = NOPASSWD: LSOF |
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| 15:25.57 | asdzxc_ | it this correct ? |
| 15:26.03 | asdzxc_ | LSOF is your alias |
| 15:26.12 | asdzxc_ | the user should be 'min' |
| 15:26.25 | tralala | user LOCAL=(root) NOPASSWD: LSOF |
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| 15:26.46 | Armored_Azrael1 | Hey, I'm trying to use DebianLive to cross build an image for ppc |
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| 15:26.48 | asdzxc_ | hm, i'm really confused with this syntax |
| 15:27.01 | tralala | oh, local is a host alias btw |
| 15:27.01 | althaser | how can I install flashplayer from iceweasel on sid amd64 ? |
| 15:27.15 | Armored_Azrael1 | but every time I try, I get: E: lh_chroot_devpts: .stage/bootstrap missing |
| 15:27.30 | tralala | on my pc it is: Host_Alias LOCAL = localhost, desktop-home, 127.0.0.1, 192.168.10.1 |
| 15:28.15 | tralala | althaser, with 32bit chroot |
| 15:28.57 | althaser | tralala there are any way without chroot ? |
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| 15:29.37 | tralala | althaser, there is an open source flash player but it's not capable enough |
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| 15:29.44 | asdzxc_ | tralala thank you very much |
| 15:29.50 | tralala | asdzxc_, you're welcome |
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| 15:31.52 | blubberdiblub | jthomas, you might want to look here http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s04s05.html for Aptitude::CmdLine::Request-Strictness, or even browse for the other resolver options |
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| 15:33.08 | althaser | tralala what about flashplayer-mozilla ? |
| 15:34.02 | Armored_Azrael1 | Is there any way to make debian-live cross-build images? |
| 15:35.13 | tralala | althaser, interesting... I didn't know about this one. |
| 15:36.05 | tralala | maybe adobe has finally realeased 64bit linux player |
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| 15:36.58 | althaser | :) |
| 15:37.48 | blubberdiblub | jthomas, option Aptitude::ProblemResolver::StepLimit looks the the most probable culprit for your observation. but it makes sense, as you're doing a complex upgrade, and aptitude is by default instructed to not spend ages searching for solutions |
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| 15:40.00 | jthomas | it gave the solutions quickly, but the first was a negative score... seems rather odd to me since apt-get dist-upgrade only gives on option which generally always worked fine... |
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| 15:41.37 | blubberdiblub | jthomas, you could increase the StepLimit by some orders of magnitude and see if it still exposes that behaviour |
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| 15:42.19 | cadsmack | hey, I've got an old version (~ 2 years) of debian installed on a laptop, and it never got allong too well with the hardware |
| 15:42.37 | cadsmack | so I'd like to update it ot the latest release |
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| 15:42.56 | jthomas | again, unneeded complexity in my eyes when apt-get was so slick. some day when i have time to learn about these things i will try, but there needs to be better info presented etc IMHO. Maybe I'll file a request for it. |
| 15:42.58 | cadsmack | anyway I can do it without rebooting? |
| 15:43.52 | jthomas | cadsmack change your /etc/apt/sources.list from 'etch' or 'stable' or whatever to 'lenny'; then apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade ... but in the end you will likely need a reboot due to the new kernel |
| 15:44.15 | jthomas | and being a laptop, you'll likely need to do some work on the wifi |
| 15:45.12 | jthomas | and of course, cadsmack, back up your data in case this goes horribly wrong and you have to reinstall from a CD |
| 15:45.18 | blubberdiblub | jthomas, yeah, a better starter documentation for aptitude would be nice, but then again, if you upgrade between releases, you are supposed to expect such kinds of problems |
| 15:45.20 | spx2 | how do I resize a region in GNU screen ? I've tried CTRL +a :resize <number of lines> and it doesn't seem to work at all,it just tells me "arguments munged" but I see no change |
| 15:45.37 | cahoot | spx2: impatient? |
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| 15:46.21 | spx2 | cahoot: not at all |
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| 15:47.11 | asdzxc_ | hi |
| 15:47.17 | asdzxc_ | can i redice timeout for CLOSE_WAIT connections ? |
| 15:47.19 | asdzxc_ | kernel 2.6 |
| 15:47.25 | asdzxc_ | * reduce timeout |
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| 15:50.29 | sofiane | hello |
| 15:51.09 | sofiane | i am in the system operation team, i have to find argument for choose in our future server the Debian distribution |
| 15:51.22 | asg | sofiane: /msg dpkg why debian |
| 15:51.29 | sofiane | cause the developpers team said ubuntu is better |
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| 15:53.01 | sofiane | i am more seeking why debian instead of ubuntu |
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| 15:53.10 | barnum | track record |
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| 15:53.26 | sofiane | you recommend a ubuntu distro on a proxy server? |
| 15:53.34 | Lagbolt | ubuntu likes bells and whistles |
| 15:53.43 | blubberdiblub | asdzxc_, have you already had a look at the tunables inside /proc/sys/net/ ? |
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| 15:54.04 | asdzxc_ | blubberdiblub what should i search for ? |
| 15:54.19 | asdzxc_ | blubberdiblub i heard that it was possible via /proc in 2.4 but it was remvoed in 2.6 |
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| 15:54.57 | bipolar | Has anyone ever setup ISC DHCP to assign a specific range of IP addresses to a range of MAC addresses, or MAC addresses that start with a specific prefix? |
| 15:55.04 | blubberdiblub | asdzxc_, oh, i'm not sure. let me see if grepping the kernel source finds anything |
| 15:55.08 | Lagbolt | sofiane, depends i guess on what you want. debian has a great track record for stability. using a stable debian release will be a little behind on latest versions of software but it is solid |
| 15:55.21 | Gillpy | Hello, I am having trouble unsubscribing to the debian-user mailing list. I contacted listmaster@lists.debian.org but no reply. The error I get is that I am not subscribed to the mailing list. What should I do ? |
| 15:55.25 | bipolar | I need to assign IP's to a bunch of SIP phones |
| 15:56.09 | jthomas | Gillpy is it maybe subscribed under a diferent email address which is auto-forwarding to the one that you think is subscribed? |
| 15:56.14 | Supaplex | bipolar: yes. you can create a class |
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| 15:57.22 | Gillpy | jthomas: I still have the CONFIRMS that I sent from the email address |
| 15:58.02 | pothibo_ | my wireless card has its interface called eth2, but I would like it to be named ra0, how can I change that ? |
| 15:58.17 | antgel | i need to dual-boot this box between two distros, but it's annoying as grub doesn't automatically get updated for both - /boot isn't shared. is sharing /boot i.e. merging both /boots to a single partition likely to cause a problem? |
| 15:58.26 | jthomas | no idea then, i just threw out a possibility... maybe ask in the irc.debian.org #debian channel, its the more 'official' irc... |
| 15:58.26 | asg | pothibo_: /msg dpkg z25 |
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| 15:58.31 | bipolar | Supaplex: Thanks I'll google that term. Do you happen to know of any examples? |
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| 15:59.41 | Supaplex | bipolar: eg, class "rtl8139" { match if substring (hardware, 1, 3) = 00:e0:c5; } pool { deny members of "foo"; allow members of "rtl8139"; } |
| 16:00.01 | bipolar | Supaplex: Thanks Again! |
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| 16:01.37 | pothibo_ | another issue: I just installed the latest rt2500 driver from serial monkey (compiled cvs) but it seems that I'm not using the one I just installed because I can't get master mode |
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| 16:02.38 | thirst | does sid have 2.6.27-rc4 kernel yet.. |
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| 16:03.17 | antgel | !pdo |
| 16:03.17 | dpkg | http://packages.debian.org/ - here you can search for debian packages and their contents. Pretty Damned Obvious, isn't it?, or http://people.debian.org/, in some contexts. Maybe even http://planet.debian.org/ |
| 16:03.22 | antgel | thirst: ^^ |
| 16:04.02 | antgel | thirst: i happen to know it's 2.6.26 - i'm building 2.6.27-rc4 at the moment as it contains a driver for this damn rtl8187b. |
| 16:04.13 | asdzxc_ | blubberdiblub have you found something ? |
| 16:04.36 | thirst | antgel, i want .27 too for my ar924x atheros wireless.. :( |
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| 16:05.48 | antgel | thirst: i downloaded 2.6.26 from kernel.org, patched it, and built it with make-kpkg. wireless works but x is hanging - i have yet to find out why. i'd blame the radeonhd driver but it works in linux 2.6.25 |
| 16:06.36 | blubberdiblub | asdzxc_, no, sorry :( i guess you're right. i think there used to be much more timeout tunables |
| 16:06.51 | thirst | antgel, why didnt you just download 2.6.26-rc4 directly.. |
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| 16:07.38 | antgel | thirst: didn't know you could. :) i'd offer you my built kernel .deb, but i doubt i enabled the driver for your card |
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| 16:07.41 | yamada | alguma gatinha quer tc? |
| 16:08.18 | thirst | antgel, heh.. |
| 16:08.44 | thirst | antgel, the kernel i compiled panics.. for some reason.. need to find out why.. |
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| 16:12.38 | pothibo_ | I have installed the rt2500-source package using module-assistant and stuff. but now I want to compile the driver from cvs and override this module... any tips please ? |
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| 16:16.16 | mkl1525 | Hi, I've some servers that are in a 10.x.x.x net and one server that is also in the 10. net but has also a public IP. Is there some way to use the last server as "http proxy" so that a request to this server with some kind of key redirects the request to one of the http servers in the 10.x.x.x net? |
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| 16:17.34 | PiousMinion | Am I missing something or has mencoder been removed from lenny? |
| 16:17.58 | yamada | mkl1525: maybe using apache's mod_proxy? |
| 16:18.31 | zxxd | gtf has been removed from etch |
| 16:18.50 | pothibo_ | how can I remove a module from kernel diffinitevely, rmmod removes it but it gets back on when I reboot |
| 16:19.09 | zxxd | try blacklisting it |
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| 16:19.34 | zxxd | pothibo_, /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist |
| 16:19.53 | mkl1525 | yamada thanks will have a look |
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| 16:20.11 | pothibo_ | zxxd: no.. I want to use a new one... but I don't know why.. after installing the new driver I stil use the stupid 2005 version of rt2500... |
| 16:20.12 | yamada | mkl1525: np |
| 16:20.50 | NeonLightning | to make a .deb i need to run the .configure first right? |
| 16:20.52 | antgel | !tell PiousMinion about pdo |
| 16:21.01 | zxxd | pothibo_, blacklist the old module |
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| 16:21.15 | pothibo_ | they are both named the same... |
| 16:21.27 | spx2 | how do I preserve the layout in a screen ? I have made some vertical and horizontal split regions and now when re-attach to my screen all the layout has disappeared and they are all just tabs |
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| 16:22.10 | zxxd | pothibo_, what are you doing |
| 16:22.31 | zxxd | pothibo_, how did you "install" the new one |
| 16:22.39 | pothibo_ | make && make install |
| 16:22.58 | PiousMinion | antgel: I'm very much aware of pdo, but that doesn't help me. |
| 16:23.05 | zxxd | pothibo_, is it under /lib/modules/ ... ? |
| 16:23.23 | barnum | so i have an interesting one, not sure if its a debian(iceweasel) issue or what... when i get a link to www.youtube.com on my etch desktop i get redirected to fr.youtube.com on my lenny laptop it goes to ca.youtube.com tried removing cookes etc.. epiphany goes to www.youtube.com when requested |
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| 16:24.26 | pothibo_ | the installation says so... |
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| 16:25.31 | zxxd | barnum, are you using different WAN links one with a france IP address and other in CA , in laptop / desktop ? |
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| 16:25.47 | p1ngp0ng | is ther no GUI for xmms2? |
| 16:25.51 | p1ngp0ng | there* |
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| 16:27.13 | barnum | nope both on the same sbc dsl ip |
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| 16:27.23 | barnum | in california |
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| 16:32.39 | mitm | hey could anyone help med out?^^ I can't get debian to connect.. |
| 16:32.48 | mitm | -d |
| 16:33.07 | aguitel | anyway to install in hd debian live ? |
| 16:33.17 | XLV | debian 4.0r4 etch, gnome that was included in repos.. how can one add an application to gnome menus? |
| 16:33.53 | XLV | its an app through wine |
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| 16:35.18 | Dantix | hi all, is it possible that the newest version of kernel-image is 2.6.2 for etch???? |
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| 16:35.42 | Paul_UK | hi can anyone tell me what libgraphviz-dev changed to? |
| 16:35.58 | Dantix | apt-cache search doesn't give me a newest one |
| 16:36.26 | yamada | Dantix: did you apt-get update first? |
| 16:36.43 | yamada | Dantix: apt-cache search linux-image|grep etchnhalf |
| 16:36.45 | \amethyst | XLV: install the package 'alacarte' and you can use that to edit menus |
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| 16:37.11 | Dantix | yamada: I'll try your advice, thanks |
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| 16:37.50 | yamada | Dantix: np |
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| 16:38.27 | Dantix | yamada: I'm looking for kernel-image not linux-image :'( |
| 16:38.50 | yamada | Dantix: debian names its kernels as linux-image |
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| 16:39.27 | Dantix | yamada: I've just learn that, thx |
| 16:39.38 | yamada | Dantix: np again |
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| 16:42.25 | erlingre | What kind of graphics adapter do you recommend for a new desktop pc? Both for games and work. |
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| 16:44.23 | barnum | if your ok with the licensing nvidia has been good for me |
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| 16:44.51 | abrotman | erlingre: ati is seemingliny becoming more OSS friendly .. ulimately up to you |
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| 16:45.19 | barnum | abrotman: does their fglrx or w/e driver supprt screen rotate yet? |
| 16:45.31 | barnum | that killed it for me on the spare box at my desk |
| 16:45.32 | abrotman | barnum: you ask as if i have one .. intel FTW :) |
| 16:45.36 | barnum | hehe |
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| 16:45.48 | barnum | my dell has onboard intel |
| 16:45.52 | barnum | and 2 nvidias |
| 16:45.56 | barnum | for its 4 heads |
| 16:46.52 | erlingre | well, I do consider ATI strongly, but earlier their drivers has been known as inferior compared to nvidia |
| 16:47.12 | XLV | \amethyst, thanks |
| 16:47.18 | barnum | yeah i would look into if they allow screen rotation of thats something you might use |
| 16:47.28 | maligor | erlingre, buggy is what they are |
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| 16:47.33 | barnum | they did not last time i used them |
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| 16:48.49 | jelly | abrotman: intel kinda sucks when you go dualhead |
| 16:48.49 | abrotman | jelly: haven't tried .. can't comment .. i'm not rich like you .. don't have two monitors |
| 16:48.49 | maligor | erlingre, the 3d performance isn't too bad tho |
| 16:48.49 | jelly | *snort* |
| 16:48.50 | barnum | i had fits with mine getting it setup i still get shit from my boss to this day |
| 16:48.50 | barnum | cause it took me 3 days to get it working how i wanted it |
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| 16:48.50 | barnum | i have the only linux desktop out of 100+ employees |
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| 16:49.15 | jelly | abrotman: the driver goes like "ooh, you have total horizontal resolution > 2048? well then, no 3D for you..." |
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| 16:49.51 | maligor | erlingre, http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NjY3OQ ;) |
| 16:50.01 | phorce1 | has an nvidia .... uhhh 5200 I think that is starting to tick him off. Locking the machine randomly. Sometimes video just freezes but keys (like CTRL/ALT/DEL still work. Other times hard reset required |
| 16:50.11 | wd_ | hey guys after loading ibmcam module which loaded v4l1 & 2.... on reboot will it load these auto or do i have to put ibmcam in some sort of mod autoload file? |
| 16:51.07 | phorce1 | what's the /msg dpkg command to find out which factiods mention a certain word? |
| 16:51.41 | erlingre | maligor, thanks for the link |
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| 16:52.52 | maligor | erlingre, but hard to say in what direction it'll go, I'll be happier once they release the actual documents |
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| 16:57.02 | xingu | bloody hell, another day another 177.x driver |
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| 16:58.27 | yamada | xingu: xingu indian? |
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| 16:59.50 | xingu | yamada: I'm not sure what I am, but I'm definitely not indian. :) |
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| 17:00.11 | Orion_X11 | Why my printer does not put the sheets out if I have only half contents of page? |
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| 17:01.05 | yamada | xingu: xingu is an indian tribe in brazil |
| 17:01.11 | Orion_X11 | It grabs the sheet and I have to put off the printer, so that it can liberate the paper. |
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| 17:05.31 | drkwolf | was ntp-simple removed from testing |
| 17:05.37 | xingu | yamada: I know ;) |
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| 17:06.46 | jthomas | I installed KDE4.1 onto my laptop and now i cannot boot :( GRUB is telling me that there are no files for the kernels (Error 15: file not found)... I can boot into the default EeePC install on /dev/sda1 but not the full Debian on /dev/sdb1 even though the GRUB looks like its pointing correctly... Any helpers? |
| 17:07.04 | smev81 | when and if you install fglrx, do you follow the instructions as described here ( http://technowizah.com/2006/10/debian-how-to-ati-drivers.html ), or do you know a better way? |
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| 17:07.53 | salman | greetings |
| 17:08.01 | stew | drkwolf: yes, use the ntp package |
| 17:08.11 | smev81 | you can of course ignore my first post and just let me know how you normally do it on lenny? |
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| 17:11.15 | Doctor_Nick | does anyone know how to set up multiple partitons on a software raid 5 array? |
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| 17:12.10 | Doctor_Nick | ex: 256mb /boot parttion, 10gb / partition, 2 tb /home partition |
| 17:12.59 | ninjaslim | how do you add items to runlevels on Debian (I'm asking for a friend, I use FreeBSD and am not familiar with Debian much) |
| 17:13.14 | NeonLightning | any clue why i had no problem compiling fluxbox, mplayer or, xmms yet libtorrent 0.13 would give me this ?configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables |
| 17:13.20 | stew | ninjaslim: with update-rc.d |
| 17:13.34 | stew | NeonLightning: aptitude install build-essential |
| 17:13.59 | ninjaslim | stew:is that the same on Ubuntu, and rc.d? i thought Debian and Linux is general used SysV style init |
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| 17:14.37 | NeonLightning | stew: already have it installed i can compile things just fine |
| 17:14.41 | stew | ninjaslim: i don't know about ubuntu. yes, debian uses SysV style init by default |
| 17:14.52 | salman | I have a strange problem in gnome. when I login as the main user that I created during the install, the screen will hangs, all menues and icons are stuck, and the only way is to kill X. other users work fine. |
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| 17:15.09 | NeonLightning | just mostly wondering if anyone else has had this issue because i had the same problem in a couple distros with this package but in a couple others i had no problems |
| 17:15.23 | salman | this is a lenny system |
| 17:15.53 | stew | NeonLightning: yes, it is a comon issue |
| 17:16.18 | salman | is there a way other than deleteing the user and creating it again? |
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| 17:16.47 | salman | is there a way to know what exactly is causing this? |
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| 17:17.55 | Trewas | NeonLightning: libtorrent is C++, those others are plain C, that may explain the difference |
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| 17:26.21 | NeonLightning | Trewas: i have g++ installed |
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| 17:26.51 | NeonLightning | Trewas: but that is probly the best lead i totally didn't think about that i figured they were all in c |
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| 17:27.16 | pothibo | jon___: you there ? |
| 17:27.49 | Trewas | NeonLightning: actually fluxbox seems to be C++ (depends on libstdc++6), so that was probably a red herring... sorry :) |
| 17:28.16 | stew | NeonLightning: what version of g++ and libc6-dev are installed? |
| 17:28.21 | NeonLightning | Trewas: nice refrence too thanks anyway dude this is an issue with this one lib that has plagued me since i left fedora |
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| 17:28.57 | stew | NeonLightning: are you trying to build the debian libtorrent package? |
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| 17:29.29 | NeonLightning | stew: no libtorrent 0.13 the newest in lenny is 0.11 |
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| 17:29.50 | NeonLightning | stew: its so i can run the bittorrent client linkage |
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| 17:30.16 | micols | mention some good programs to have in one's screen session: mutt,irssi,wyrd,rtorrent,slrn,centerim any other ncurses based programs which would be nice to have?:) |
| 17:30.57 | NeonLightning | stew: but i think i'll take a bit of a break for now |
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| 17:33.21 | pothibo | is there a way to launch ipmasq without being so verbose ?? |
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| 17:34.04 | oldpentium | has anyone here (running etch) successfully compiled hazehakase? |
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| 17:34.10 | Spec | Heya...what's the best way to tunnel imap traffic securely? just ssh/port forwarding, or is there a better/recommended way? |
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| 17:34.28 | xingu | Spec: just use imaps ;) |
| 17:34.45 | Spec | i do not have that ability :p |
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| 17:35.42 | jelly | Spec: then you're already in the workarounds country, and not the "best/recommended" one |
| 17:35.44 | n3kl | Spec: openvpn? |
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| 17:36.06 | Spec | i can use a vpn, or i can use ssh |
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| 17:36.12 | Doctor_Nick | YES YOU CAN |
| 17:36.16 | Doctor_Nick | HIGH FIVES |
| 17:36.17 | Spec | i was also looking at stunnel |
| 17:36.21 | Spec | Thanks, Doctor_Nick ;) |
| 17:36.24 | Doctor_Nick | *SLAP HANDZ* |
| 17:36.31 | Spec | I meant to say, "I can has vpn, or I can has ssh." |
| 17:36.32 | n3kl | Spec: don't waste your time with stunnel |
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| 17:36.56 | Spec | Well, are there any problems using an ssh tunnel? We use them for postgres database connections, and it seems to work out well. |
| 17:37.11 | n3kl | So use that |
| 17:37.25 | oldpentium | BTW, can anyone here recommend me a light X-window browser that works on a Pentium 133 Mhz? dillo fails to render a lot of websites that are *not* flash based and opera is not free as in freedom. |
| 17:37.55 | Spec | 'k, thanks. :p |
| 17:38.15 | jelly | oldpentium: is the freeness a requirement? |
| 17:38.18 | Doctor_Nick | elinks isnt x=window |
| 17:38.27 | Doctor_Nick | but it works on really old computers :) |
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| 17:38.51 | jelly | links2 -G is crap, too |
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| 17:39.03 | Doctor_Nick | there's a links2? |
| 17:39.15 | jelly | there is. |
| 17:39.28 | jelly | it has omggraphics mode |
| 17:40.17 | Doctor_Nick | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=575456 |
| 17:40.20 | oldpentium | <jelly> i have used dillo and links2 and they fail to render a lot of websites. opera is technically ok but it lacks freedom. freedom is *very* important |
| 17:40.49 | jelly | oldpentium: I'm afraid you're on your own, then |
| 17:41.15 | Doctor_Nick | there must be something |
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| 17:41.26 | jelly | Doctor_Nick: "must"? |
| 17:41.37 | noohgodno | swap are you in here |
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| 17:41.45 | xingu | netscape 1.1n is about the right vintage for that system |
| 17:41.59 | NeonLightning | Trewas: /usr/bin/ld: failed to set dynamic section sizes: File format not recognized seems to be where the config.log says the error is |
| 17:41.59 | Doctor_Nick | jelly: i doubt there isn't a solution to his problem |
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| 17:42.45 | pothibo | anyone familiar with ipmasq? I have eth0 which is connected to the Internet and eth1 which is connected to this laptop, I fire up ipmasq and then connect eth1 to this laptop, but my laptop doesn't want to get the connection... |
| 17:43.04 | jelly | Doctor_Nick: accessing the websites of today requires modern browsers; using older versions means less and less pages will render correctly |
| 17:43.10 | pothibo | networkmanager doesn't recognize anything... it's like there's no wire connected |
| 17:43.13 | Doctor_Nick | i realize |
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| 17:43.22 | Doctor_Nick | thats why i wouldnt recommend using something like netscape 4.0 |
| 17:43.40 | jelly | firefox 1.5! |
| 17:43.42 | NeonLightning | try conkeror |
| 17:43.51 | oldpentium | netscape is dead |
| 17:43.52 | NeonLightning | not with a K |
| 17:43.59 | stew | conkeror is not lightweight |
| 17:44.17 | xingu | mosaic'd run fairly snappy-like on a p5-133 |
| 17:44.24 | NeonLightning | it runs lighter then icepage and iceweasel for me |
| 17:44.33 | stew | it is iceweasel |
| 17:44.36 | jelly | whatabout some webkit-based crap versioned 0.2? |
| 17:44.46 | jelly | midori or similar |
| 17:44.56 | elik | epiphany does a nice job to, and pretty lightweight |
| 17:45.01 | ukmnh | is there a program with which i can rapidly change the color of the display? |
| 17:45.05 | NeonLightning | yea epiphany is nice |
| 17:45.08 | Doctor_Nick | ah hah |
| 17:45.11 | Doctor_Nick | http://www.dillo.org/ |
| 17:45.14 | ukmnh | something like simulating a strobe light with the monitor |
| 17:45.15 | shyam_k | had a wierd problem while installing lenny in my college lab system.. I selected ml_IN for installing the system and installation successfully completed..after installation, i could see the gdm welcome message and it asking for username. But as i type the username,only blanks are displayed.. and as i logged in to my surprise,i could see a blank desktop with no icons, and no objects on the panels.. A blank rectangle drop down menu came |
| 17:45.16 | shyam_k | without icons or without text,but clicking for apps opened the corresponding window with blank text and objects with the apps working.. |
| 17:45.20 | Doctor_Nick | give that a shot |
| 17:45.32 | elik | fairly compatible as well, accept flash plugins and such |
| 17:45.48 | shyam_k | i did the installation with lenny dvd-1 and nothing else.. |
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| 17:46.16 | jelly | Doctor_Nick: he already stated dillo was inadequate |
| 17:46.22 | shyam_k | but i think i have successfully installed other systems with the same iso.. |
| 17:46.25 | Doctor_Nick | oh |
| 17:46.28 | stew | Doctor_Nick: he said that doesn't work. probably becuase it lacks javascript |
| 17:46.42 | allos_nerelin | how do i unpack archives diff.gz ? |
| 17:47.02 | jelly | allos_nerelin: those are not archives, just compressed single files. What are you trying to do? |
| 17:47.07 | stew | allos_nerelin: you've already asked this question at least 4 or 5 times and gotten answers, you should write things down if you can't remember them |
| 17:47.29 | shyam_k | is it something related to X ? i just didnt get any idea what to do.. or where to look for.. |
| 17:47.31 | NeonLightning | oldpentium: have you tried running links2 with -g |
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| 17:47.42 | Doctor_Nick | yeah he has |
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| 17:47.52 | jelly | wishes people would read the fine backlog |
| 17:47.53 | NeonLightning | well the epiphany is probly the best bet |
| 17:47.56 | Doctor_Nick | epiphany might work, i dont know |
| 17:48.12 | NeonLightning | jelly: i have 7 channels displaing in the same window that gets to be a major pain |
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| 17:48.31 | allos_nerelin | jelly |
| 17:48.37 | allos_nerelin | www:~# tar zxvf php5_5.2.0-8+etch11.diff.gz |
| 17:48.37 | allos_nerelin | tar: This does not look like a tar archive |
| 17:48.37 | allos_nerelin | tar: Skipping to next header tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors |
| 17:48.40 | jelly | NeonLightning: use a decent irc client with tabs, like irssi |
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| 17:48.50 | SpeCon | how can i install a .DEB package ? for example i have here a webmin package that i want to install on my debian system |
| 17:48.52 | jelly | allos_nerelin: it is NOT an archive |
| 17:48.52 | NeonLightning | i am using irssi |
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| 17:49.13 | jelly | allos_nerelin: what are you really trying to accomplish? What is your goal? |
| 17:49.21 | allos_nerelin | SpeCon dpkg --install arch....db |
| 17:49.22 | NeonLightning | jelly: i have one window for each server i'm on |
| 17:49.27 | allos_nerelin | SpeCon dpkg --install arch....deb |
| 17:49.38 | SpeCon | arch ....deb |
| 17:49.39 | jelly | allos_nerelin: what is "arch"? |
| 17:49.46 | allos_nerelin | archive |
| 17:49.50 | SpeCon | so i type dpkg --install arch webmin.deb ? |
| 17:50.01 | xingu | !webmin |
| 17:50.01 | dpkg | webmin is, like, a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/ Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/12/msg00790.html about the removal. Don't use their .debs, they are of extremely poor quality. |
| 17:50.04 | jelly | allos_nerelin: what are you trying to install? |
| 17:50.07 | allos_nerelin | dpkg --install nameofarchive.deb |
| 17:50.07 | dpkg | no idea, allos_nerelin |
| 17:50.10 | shyam_k | i tried dpkg-reconfigure locales and added en_US utf but that too didnt help |
| 17:50.14 | jelly | oh, nm |
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| 17:50.22 | jelly | is dumb |
| 17:51.03 | allos_nerelin | install php5 jelly |
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| 17:51.40 | stew | allos_nerelin: is there a reason you are using the source package instead of just installing the binary packages? |
| 17:52.10 | allos_nerelin | I delete the folder manually ... when use the apt-get install php5 does not install the files! |
| 17:52.21 | jelly | can think of at least one reason |
| 17:52.45 | stew | allos_nerelin: /msg dpkg confmiss |
| 17:53.22 | stew | allos_nerelin: compiling the package from source isn't going to help with that problem |
| 17:53.38 | Doctor_Nick | !fart |
| 17:53.38 | dpkg | farts, releasing large quantities of methane and sulfur dioxide. "Evacuate the channel! GO! *gag* SAVE YOURSELVES *cough* MOVE *choke* MOVE!" |
| 17:53.41 | allos_nerelin | hum |
| 17:53.43 | allos_nerelin | thnaks |
| 17:53.46 | allos_nerelin | thanks |
| 17:53.51 | Doctor_Nick | !gentoo |
| 17:53.51 | dpkg | methinks gentoo is a ports-based Linux distro for x86, PowerPC, Sparc, Sparc64. Maybe akin to BSD. Something you don't want to administer more than 2 of. Nice file browser. Its users are gentoobies. See also http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2003/44/ or ask me about <greenhouse>. bash.org/?464385 or rice rice rice rice, or http://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/gentoo.jpg, or <funroll-loops>, or #gentoo @ irc.freenode.net |
| 17:54.06 | stew | Doctor_Nick: please /msg the bot |
| 17:54.14 | Doctor_Nick | !msg |
| 17:54.14 | dpkg | (1) Use private messages to the bots to reduce channel spam, but don't message people on #debian without asking permission first. Most questions should be asked on channel, so that others can benefit from the question and the answers received. (2) Always feel free to message freenode network staff. They're the people with hostnames ending in 'staff.freenode'. (3) Monosodium glutamate, a food additive (see http://truthinlabeling.org/). |
| 17:54.32 | jelly | Doctor_Nick: /msg dpkg stuff, instead of !stuff |
| 17:55.06 | tjohnson | so, i'm trying to use module-assistant and got an error about CFLAGS being changed, is there a typical fix to this? |
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| 18:02.54 | hoxu | something is amiss with php5 5.2.6-3 on sid, I seem to be getting notices and warnings from where none were seen earlier in geshi, rhmrh |
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| 18:04.16 | pothibo | Is there someone who knows something about home router for god's sake? |
| 18:04.29 | elik | eh, yeah |
| 18:04.33 | elik | what's the matter? |
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| 18:04.45 | elik | Is it the appropriate channel for debian-multimedia related questions? |
| 18:04.51 | pothibo | great! well I'm lost, been reading for the last 8 hours on how to make one... |
| 18:05.07 | pothibo | and well after 8 hours, I still can't connect 1 single pc to my debian box |
| 18:05.07 | elik | err, wait, make one? |
| 18:05.10 | jthomas | I have upgraded my EeePC Debian Lenny and now my mouse doesn't work, anyone have ideas? |
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| 18:05.15 | elik | pothibo, ok |
| 18:05.17 | hoxu | elik, don't worry, you'll be redirected elsewhere if you ask a question unfit for here |
| 18:05.37 | elik | pothibo, you looked up ipmasq? |
| 18:05.41 | shyam_k | can anyone get any clue on my problem on blank desktop,panel and windows? |
| 18:05.42 | pothibo | I did... |
| 18:05.52 | elik | pothibo, ok, cool |
| 18:05.55 | pothibo | it runs, and I can't connect this laptop through |
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| 18:06.13 | elik | pothibo, you installed any sort f dhcp server? |
| 18:06.21 | elik | pothibo, or manually configured ips? |
| 18:06.21 | pothibo | yeah, dhcp |
| 18:06.25 | hoxu | shyam_k, did you try creating a new user and test that? |
| 18:06.39 | pothibo | and I can't understand how this server works in term of configuration.... |
| 18:06.53 | elik | pothibo, this server, you mean? |
| 18:07.14 | pothibo | I have eth0 connected to the Internet where the ISP's DHCP server assign the addresses and eth1 is the NIC that I use to connect my laptop on |
| 18:07.21 | shyam_k | hoxu: ok.. actually the system is not with me now its in the college lab.. ill check it.. i just wanted to know whether this is a common problem with a well known solution.. |
| 18:07.25 | pothibo | elik: dhcp server |
| 18:07.36 | pothibo | elik: I'll paste my configuration file hold on. |
| 18:07.37 | elik | pothibo, ok, if I may recommend, forget the dhcp as of yet |
| 18:08.05 | elik | pothibo, if you can get it working statically, then it might be worth looking into dhcp |
| 18:08.15 | elik | pothibo, but that's really the cherry on the sundae |
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| 18:08.35 | pothibo | elik: http://pastebin.com/m4031f703 |
| 18:08.45 | pothibo | elik: okay |
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| 18:08.58 | pothibo | so how do I connect to statically? |
| 18:09.06 | LiamH | I have 9 equal-length jobs running on an 8-core computer. 7 jobs get 100% of a CPU, and 2 jobs get 50%. It would be faster overall if the doubled-up process rotated instead of staying fixed. Is there a way to change that? |
| 18:09.13 | pothibo | where do I enter the proper information about the local gateway? |
| 18:09.19 | elik | I have some issues with mplayer, since I upgrade to the one on debian-multimedia... gives errors like Could not seek and such... anyone heard of that |
| 18:09.29 | x86 | when I boot any of my debian servers, I get this message "resume: could not stat the resume device file. Please type in the file name to try again or press ENTER to boot" |
| 18:09.53 | elik | pothibo, would you mind preceding your messages by my name, just easier to keep track |
| 18:10.03 | x86 | upon googling that error, I came across mention of "uswsusp", so I removed that package completely (although regretfully, did not use --purge when I did it) |
| 18:10.19 | pothibo | elik: yeah my apologies |
| 18:10.28 | x86 | any ideas how I can get this to go away? I don't want suspend / hibernate / resume functionality on my servers anyway... |
| 18:10.44 | elik | pothibo, the easy way is in the menu, system->admin->network |
| 18:11.00 | elik | pothibo, dunno if you have that, but you can configure it in a windows like manner |
| 18:11.08 | pothibo | elik: it's a server, no GUI... |
| 18:11.31 | elik | pothibo, well, that doesn't meant.. but fair enough, ifconfig it'll be then |
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| 18:12.31 | stew | pothibo: man interfaces |
| 18:13.03 | x86 | anyone with ideas on this? |
| 18:13.28 | elik | pothibo, ifconfig eth1 <address> netmask 255.255.255.0 |
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| 18:14.06 | elik | oops, looks like someone messed with his network interface.. the wrong one :P |
| 18:14.39 | elik | I have errors with debian-multimedia's mplayer, some Could not seek or such, anyone know what the problem might be? |
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| 18:16.14 | elik | wb pothibo |
| 18:16.23 | elik | pothibo, did you mess with the wrong interface? |
| 18:16.26 | elik | pothibo, ifconfig eth1 <address> netmask 255.255.255.0 |
| 18:16.40 | ifconfig | ls |
| 18:16.44 | ifconfig | oops. |
| 18:16.52 | elik | and as stew added, if you want to make it permanent, you can look into man interfaces |
| 18:17.10 | elik | ifconfig, lol, that doesn't work here.. at least you didn't send us your root passwd :P |
| 18:17.56 | ifconfig | i was trying to list users! lol |
| 18:18.26 | elik | hehe |
| 18:18.53 | NeonLightning | i'm trying to compile libtorrent 0.13 and i'm getting coming form ld in the configure script http://pastebin.ca/1187671 is the config.log if it gives you any idea |
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| 18:19.20 | pothibo | elik: sry, no. Laptop is dying on me.. like pretty much everything else |
| 18:19.53 | pothibo | pothibo: that command I write it on the server? |
| 18:20.03 | elik | pothibo, ok :P yeah |
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| 18:20.23 | elik | pothibo, careful, talking to yourself looks a bit weird :P |
| 18:20.27 | x86 | hmm, perhaps I'll try again... |
| 18:20.28 | pothibo | elik: ipaddress is whatever I want correct? |
| 18:20.36 | x86 | when I boot any of my debian servers, I get this message "resume: could not stat the resume device file. Please type in the file name to try again or press ENTER to boot" |
| 18:20.40 | pothibo | elik: hehehe true :) |
| 18:20.41 | elik | pothibo, and netmask |
| 18:20.41 | x86 | upon googling that error, I came across mention of "uswsusp", so I removed that package completely (although regretfully, did not use --purge when I did it) |
| 18:20.47 | x86 | any ideas how I can get this to go away? I don't want suspend / hibernate / resume functionality on my servers anyway... |
| 18:20.52 | elik | pothibo, yeah, the rest is taken in charge by ipmasq |
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| 18:20.57 | pothibo | elik: ok |
| 18:21.11 | elik | x86, do you have s2ram installed or such |
| 18:21.20 | x86 | lemme check |
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| 18:21.39 | pothibo | elik: okay, it's done. |
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| 18:21.51 | phanter | hi there... |
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| 18:21.54 | elik | x86, I know it gets added for me whenever I install a package that supports suspend and resume |
| 18:22.00 | x86 | E: Couldn't find package s2ram |
| 18:22.16 | x86 | (from apt-get remove s2ram) |
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| 18:22.33 | elik | pothibo, now, if you assign an ip on your laptop, it should connect to the server |
| 18:22.34 | phanter | i suddenly have this intereseting problem. My Software-Sources program does not want to start anymore. When starting in cml it says: "Error: could not find a distribution template" |
| 18:22.36 | x86 | hmm, it could be that apt-get remove uswsusp didn't re-generate the initrd? |
| 18:22.39 | phanter | How can I solve this ? |
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| 18:23.09 | elik | x86, that could be possible.... but I can't help you on that |
| 18:23.33 | elik | pothibo, on the laptop, you have to set the default gateway though |
| 18:23.42 | micols | x86: i dont know what you have tried, but resume=/dev/hda6 where 6 is your swap partition |
| 18:23.47 | elik | pothibo, so if you have the gui, will help |
| 18:23.48 | micols | append to kernel. |
| 18:24.05 | elik | micols, he want to remove resume support |
| 18:24.15 | janemann | hi. i'm a bit stuck while trying to create a .deb package, which only does the binary-modules target when invoked via make-kpkg ... and the default target when invoked via "debuild". anybody aware of an existing example package? |
| 18:24.23 | pothibo | elik: laptop has gui |
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| 18:25.00 | micols | 1318noresume[SWSUSP] Disables resume and restores original swap |
| 18:25.00 | micols | 1319space. |
| 18:25.10 | micols | append noresume to kernel. |
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| 18:25.19 | elik | pothibo, so, ip is different than server, but on the same subnet, mask is still 255.255.255.0, and dns, not quite sure, you might want to set it to your ISP default |
| 18:25.20 | micols | http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt , also included in /usr/src/linux |
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| 18:28.01 | pickcoder | what field type does debian originally use for the debian-sys-maint user in mysql 5.0 |
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| 18:28.13 | blizzow | dpkg: !whatprovides dig |
| 18:28.13 | dpkg | blizzow: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 18:28.19 | pickcoder | I'm migrated a database from another machine and I'm trying to fix the password field |
| 18:28.37 | pothibo | elik: well let's not worry about dns right now... I want to be able to connect to it first |
| 18:28.39 | pickcoder | I've tried password, md5, and sha1 with no luck |
| 18:28.57 | pothibo | elik: I can't still connect to eth1 from my laptop |
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| 18:29.20 | phanter | . |
| 18:29.36 | elik | pothibo, by connect, what do you mean? you can't ping it? |
| 18:29.39 | Dantix | hi all, I've mounted a USB HD with -tntfs -orw switches, the HD was mounted but I've received "Read-only file systems" when I try to write on it, what could be wrong? |
| 18:29.52 | pothibo | elik: I can't do nothing neither ping it nothing |
| 18:30.00 | zinx | Dantix: the kernel driver can't create new files |
| 18:30.07 | zinx | Dantix: you may try using ntfs-3g instead |
| 18:30.14 | elik | Can you give me ifconfig of both machines |
| 18:30.33 | pothibo | elik: but my server is not connected to Internet right now.. it's behind the router.. because if I connect it I loose my connection to IRC thus can't be talkin to you |
| 18:30.33 | Dantix | zinx: is that a module or a package? |
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| 18:30.49 | elik | pothibo, hum, I see |
| 18:30.52 | zinx | Dantix: it's a package and a fuse module |
| 18:30.56 | XLV | debian 4.0r4 etch, gnome that was included in repos.. desktop>administration>login window doesnt start, i run it from shell, gksu runs, but trying to run gdmsetup it reports "failed to connect to socket" |
| 18:31.03 | x86 | micols: I don't have that on my kernel command line... and... I don't want suspend / resume on my servers, that's the whole point |
| 18:31.08 | Dantix | zinx: tanks |
| 18:31.12 | Dantix | *thanks |
| 18:31.40 | elik | pothibo, just give me the 2nd line of the interface, with inet addr... and the rest |
| 18:32.06 | micols | x86: then you need to reboot and add that option to grub/lilo, OR recompile kernel without suspend :) |
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| 18:32.28 | micols | ofcourse if you just add it to lilo/grub now it will work next time your server is rebooted. |
| 18:32.39 | micols | just append noresume after kernel name. |
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| 18:33.19 | EagleSn | exuse me what is the IRC server of Debian |
| 18:33.33 | pickcoder | EagleSn: eh? |
| 18:33.38 | happosade | irc.freenode.org ? |
| 18:33.38 | zinx | EagleSn: irc.debian.org |
| 18:33.40 | hoxu | !tell EagleSn about irc |
| 18:34.24 | pickcoder | I would assume that password is the default encrption for mysql but for some reason the debian scripts still can't shut mysql down |
| 18:34.29 | EagleSn | zinx thanks you |
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| 18:35.10 | EagleSn | i do not understand, i am now connected to irc.freenode.org, and i am in Debian channel |
| 18:35.12 | pothibo | elik: inetaddr:192.168.0.54 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask: 255.255.255.0 |
| 18:35.18 | pothibo | elik: that's for eth1 |
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| 18:35.32 | EagleSn | but some others channels as debian-woman are nos available here |
| 18:35.34 | elik | pothibo, and on the laptop? |
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| 18:36.03 | AbsintheSyringe | I just upgraded my lenny, and out of sudden my sound isn't working, and I can't run alsaconf (it's missing), any ideas? debian lenny |
| 18:36.08 | null | pothibo: wow still here. did you sleep? |
| 18:36.08 | pickcoder | EagleSn: irc.debian.org and freenode are not connected |
| 18:36.09 | elik | EagleSn, I think there are more ppl in the freenode #debian channel than debian #debian channel |
| 18:36.17 | AbsintheSyringe | 2.6.26-1 |
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| 18:36.35 | pothibo | null: 6 hours... |
| 18:36.39 | pothibo | elik: inet6 addr: fe80::2a0:d1ff:fe3d:718e/64 Scope:Link |
| 18:36.58 | pickcoder | will dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.0 readd the debian-sys-maint user if I remove it from the mysql DB? |
| 18:37.22 | pickcoder | ~re-add |
| 18:37.38 | EagleSn | oh now I see there are different chanels! |
| 18:38.02 | elik | pothibo, hum, that's not what is needed |
| 18:38.10 | elik | pothibo, you want the ipv4 address |
| 18:38.12 | pothibo | elik: my laptop is not connected to the server tho... it's connected to the router... want me to connect the server to the cable modem and see what happens? |
| 18:38.26 | happosade | anywhere quilde for setting up mailserver whit webmail? |
| 18:38.30 | pothibo | elik: no ipv4 address shown... |
| 18:38.31 | elik | pothibo, yeah, if you want to test it, you have no choice |
| 18:38.39 | pothibo | elik: I'll d/c brb |
| 18:38.42 | elik | pothibo, ok, you have to configure it manually |
| 18:38.50 | elik | pothibo, in the gui, it's easier |
| 18:38.51 | null | pothibo: make sure to hard reboot the cable modem for it to release the dhcp lease |
| 18:39.19 | elik | pothibo, try that and come back |
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| 18:39.27 | pickcoder | happosade: get your mailserver working first |
| 18:39.40 | pickcoder | you will probably need an IMAP server too |
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| 18:40.12 | happosade | pickcoder: yap, that will be nice |
| 18:40.25 | pickcoder | I use postfix+dovecot+roundcube |
| 18:40.39 | pickcoder | roundcube is not in the repo |
| 18:40.59 | pickcoder | wait |
| 18:41.03 | pickcoder | it's there.. |
| 18:41.16 | pickcoder | on BPO |
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| 18:41.33 | pickcoder | I coulda saved some headache a few months ago :/ |
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| 18:43.22 | happosade | BPO? |
| 18:43.26 | pickcoder | !bpo |
| 18:43.26 | dpkg | backports.org is an unofficial repository of backports for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Read http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions ask me about <backports>. A sample line for your sources.list is: deb http://www.backports.org/debian etch-backports main contrib non-free. Once you've added that line, aptitude update && aptitude install debian-backports-keyring && aptitude update |
| 18:44.26 | abrotman | FWIW .. it's not like roundcube would be hard to backport yourself .. or install from source |
| 18:44.35 | happosade | so it will be in http://backports.org? |
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| 18:46.14 | pickcoder | abrotman: (which I prefer for huge PHP-based packages) |
| 18:46.21 | pickcoder | bug fixes and all that don't make it into Etch |
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| 18:48.03 | HeirDibsEsqIII | can anyone recommend a pkg to scan for virus on client computers (windows) ? |
| 18:48.11 | HeirDibsEsqIII | maybe something to scan at the gateway? |
| 18:48.28 | pickcoder | HeirDibsEsqIII: ask in #windows? |
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| 18:48.38 | HeirDibsEsqIII | i want something that runs on a linux box |
| 18:48.44 | HeirDibsEsqIII | to hadle all scanning |
| 18:48.50 | pickcoder | how do you plan on scanning a windows instance on Linux? |
| 18:48.52 | happosade | clamav |
| 18:48.58 | HeirDibsEsqIII | scanning at the gateway |
| 18:48.58 | AbsintheSyringe | when I try to run alsamixer, I get "alsamixer: error while loading shared libraries: libasound.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" debian lenny, 2.6.26-1 |
| 18:49.21 | HeirDibsEsqIII | happosade: thanks, ill give it a look |
| 18:49.27 | pickcoder | HeirDibsEsqIII: pay for a commercial scanner |
| 18:49.34 | HeirDibsEsqIII | pickcoder: can you recommend one |
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| 18:49.45 | HeirDibsEsqIII | i just dont want each server to have it installed if possible |
| 18:49.53 | HeirDibsEsqIII | and would like to do it all centealy from one computer |
| 18:50.16 | pickcoder | sohpos? |
| 18:50.21 | pickcoder | ~Sophos |
| 18:50.38 | pickcoder | HeirDibsEsqIII: you still need a desktop scanner for -doze |
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| 18:50.44 | pickcoder | consider AVG from Grisoft |
| 18:50.52 | pickcoder | for Dekstop |
| 18:50.54 | pickcoder | ugh |
| 18:50.55 | HeirDibsEsqIII | i have a bunch of client computers |
| 18:51.06 | HeirDibsEsqIII | thats why ui was hoping to get something to scan them all from one box |
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| 18:51.17 | HeirDibsEsqIII | maybe passive scanning at the gateway or something |
| 18:51.18 | pickcoder | HeirDibsEsqIII: you can't do that logistically |
| 18:51.28 | pickcoder | the scanner _has_ to run in memory on the desktop |
| 18:51.35 | pickcoder | you can administrate it from a console |
| 18:51.44 | pickcoder | Sophos probably has a network edition for Linux+Windows |
| 18:51.54 | pothibo_ | elik: It didn't work |
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| 18:52.20 | pickcoder | checks grisoft's Linux support |
| 18:52.41 | abrotman | pickcoder: that's hardly "huge" |
| 18:53.06 | pothibo_ | elik: but it's weird, it's like eth0 and eth1 were confused, I was unabled to get access to the net on the server until I did ifconfig eth1 down |
| 18:53.33 | pickcoder | abrotman: counting bytes again? |
| 18:54.05 | pothibo_ | elik: I did some stuff in /etc/network/interfaces tho, that could be the problem |
| 18:54.13 | elik | pothibo, you mean, on the server side? |
| 18:54.19 | abrotman | pickcoder: it's not like horde or anything :) |
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| 18:54.36 | Doctor_Nick | how do I destroy a raid device? |
| 18:54.38 | pothibo_ | elik: yes |
| 18:54.39 | elik | pothibo, well, interfaces automatically configures you interface, but what shows in ifconfig is what is right |
| 18:54.40 | pickcoder | abrotman: true |
| 18:54.51 | elik | Doctor_Nick, like any other device, step on it |
| 18:54.54 | pickcoder | HeirDibsEsqIII: Grisoft supports e-mail and file server scanning on Linux |
| 18:55.04 | elik | Doctor_Nick, you can burn it too |
| 18:55.09 | pickcoder | Sophos is more widely supported with filtering plug-ins though |
| 18:55.14 | pickcoder | like amavis |
| 18:55.25 | HeirDibsEsqIII | pickcoder: thanks, im checking out sophos now, sounds kinda like what i want |
| 18:55.37 | HeirDibsEsqIII | cant seem to find the price yet :p |
| 18:56.03 | elik | pothibo_, as for the "confusion", how do you mean it was confused? |
| 18:56.08 | pickcoder | I use clamav on my servers just to catch 7-day+ stuff |
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| 18:56.30 | shyam_k | using /dev/sda or /dev/hda kind of things in kernel parameter of grub is creating problems.. |
| 18:56.33 | pothibo_ | elik: well, I haqd to shutdown eth1 in order to make eth0 work... |
| 18:56.44 | pickcoder | AVG protects the desktop network and I can admin it from my office PC |
| 18:56.46 | elik | pothibo_, on the server, right? |
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| 18:56.54 | S-i-A | hi |
| 18:57.16 | pothibo_ | elik: but I think I solved this by removing the 2 following llines on the interfaces script: eth1 manual / iface eth1 inet static |
| 18:57.20 | shyam_k | has the new version of lenny replaced it with uuid parameters? gnewsense based on ubuntu gives the root paraeter of kernel for grub with uuid |
| 18:57.20 | pothibo_ | elik: correct |
| 18:57.24 | elik | pothibo_, one last thing you might want to check... but I don't know how to verify... most new cards have interfaces that can swap pairs, and saves you the need for a cross cable.. but if your computers are old, you might need the cross cable |
| 18:57.25 | S-i-A | how to block some website ? complete |
| 18:57.25 | shyam_k | by default.. |
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| 18:57.36 | abrotman | S-i-A: block from what? |
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| 18:57.59 | pothibo_ | elik: for both NIC? |
| 18:58.01 | elik | pothibo_, hum, not too familiar with interfaces... |
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| 18:58.11 | elik | pothibo_, hum, no, just one should do |
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| 18:58.26 | elik | pothibo_, that's one of the reasons I suggested starting with static config |
| 18:58.35 | pothibo_ | elik: that could be right, let me check something, I have an old nnic and a brand new one... |
| 18:58.36 | S-i-A | abrotman: my pc, i will nobody can display this website on this pc "fluzy.com, domain.com" |
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| 18:59.03 | shyam_k | kernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-16-386 root=UUID=a3ed7596-5c09-4fda-92b8-a2b41dc96c4c ro single i have this in my menu.lst of gnewsense while for debian it is kernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-1-686 root=/dev/sda1 ro quiet here the reference to /dev/sda1 is creating problems..in some other systems,as some other time the device name is changed.. |
| 18:59.07 | pothibo_ | elik: if I make the old one connect to the router and the new one connect as the gateway, it might work properly |
| 18:59.27 | S-i-A | is that possible |
| 18:59.42 | abrotman | S-i-A: you could uh .. list it in /etc/hosts ? |
| 18:59.58 | elik | pothibo_,errr, that could be special |
| 19:00.07 | S-i-A | abrotman: ok thanx |
| 19:00.13 | pickcoder | S-i-A: that won't block |
| 19:00.27 | abrotman | no .. won't block .. but for the ignint .. :) |
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| 19:00.35 | S-i-A | pickcoder: ? |
| 19:00.37 | S-i-A | :) |
| 19:00.39 | elik | pothibo_, I'm not exactly sure what that would do |
| 19:00.41 | abrotman | S-i-A: if you really want to block .. use a proxy |
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| 19:01.20 | mcbane | hi |
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| 19:01.52 | S-i-A | abrotman: i will blcok it really with proxy can you give me some info? |
| 19:02.09 | mcbane | if I want to set the rights of a folder, that somebody can read the contents, but can not delete the folder, how Do I have to set the rights? r-x or r-- ? |
| 19:02.23 | pothibo_ | elik: I'm loosing m y mind over this... |
| 19:02.34 | elik | pothibo_, for the config, you had your server eth1 connected to the modem using dhcp, eth0 manually configure with the address you gave me... and then client side, eth* connected to eth0 of server, manually configured with an address on that network, and you couldn't ping the server |
| 19:02.38 | elik | pothibo_, hehe |
| 19:02.40 | abrotman | !tell S-i-A about squid |
| 19:03.02 | elik | pothibo_, really, the first step is connecting both computer together, and pinging each other |
| 19:03.15 | pothibo_ | elik: yes, but you mixed the eth0 and eth1 |
| 19:03.18 | pothibo_ | it's the opposite |
| 19:03.24 | S-i-A | abrotman: u r the best |
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| 19:03.32 | abrotman | whole words! |
| 19:03.42 | elik | pothibo_, ok |
| 19:04.18 | elik | abrotman, you know much about debian-multimedia, and why my mplayer gives me errors when I try to watch movies that used to work before updating |
| 19:04.39 | abrotman | elik: no, i don't use mplayer, and the only thing i use from dmm is the w32codecs |
| 19:04.47 | elik | pothibo_, you have any cross cable at hand? |
| 19:05.03 | elik | abrotman, ok :( |
| 19:05.29 | pothibo_ | elik: no :( but here's a weird issue, I just connected eth1 to my router |
| 19:05.35 | pothibo_ | and it can't ping anything |
| 19:05.46 | pothibo_ | elik: might be because of ipmasq, hold one |
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| 19:06.12 | pothibo_ | elik: yeah it was the case |
| 19:06.17 | elik | pothibo_, well, some guy was telling you about hard reset of the router to release your lease |
| 19:06.30 | elik | pothibo_, you mean, ipmasq prevented you from pinging? |
| 19:06.41 | pothibo_ | elik: yeah, well either ipmasq or dhcp |
| 19:06.42 | elik | pothibo_, your router? |
| 19:06.43 | pothibo_ | both were on |
| 19:07.08 | elik | pothibo_, well... if dhcp works on this interface, could be pretty weird |
| 19:07.21 | pothibo_ | elik: yeah I think it was dhcp... it's not configured yet |
| 19:07.29 | elik | pothibo_, I don't know what it does if two servers are trying to lease each other an ip address |
| 19:07.36 | pothibo_ | elik: I just launched ipmasq and everything works fine |
| 19:07.43 | elik | pothibo_, kk |
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| 19:08.08 | elik | pothibo_, may I ask why you try to do that? you have a home router don't you? |
| 19:08.33 | pothibo_ | elik: learn and because we have 5 computers here and router only has 4 slots... |
| 19:08.38 | XLV | anyone? about gdmsetup doesnt want to run, it reports "failed to connect to socket" |
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| 19:09.12 | elik | pothibo_, ah, sounds like a fair deal, and your server has 6 cards? |
| 19:09.18 | shyam_k | was there any serious bug in july version of lenny relating to device names of hdds and cdroms? |
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| 19:09.26 | pothibo_ | elik: 2 cards and 1 wireless |
| 19:09.33 | alcohol | which package should I apt-get if I want to install a svn server? I'm quite confused |
| 19:09.35 | alcohol | is it libsvn? |
| 19:09.37 | elik | pothibo_, ah, kk |
| 19:09.42 | pothibo_ | elik: most are laptops so they are wifi |
| 19:09.46 | justin | alcohol: if you want to use svn over ssh you just need to install subversion |
| 19:09.58 | elik | pothibo_, ok, so your server is your access point |
| 19:10.03 | alcohol | oh, silly me |
| 19:10.07 | alcohol | shouldn't have abbreviated it |
| 19:10.09 | shyam_k | as i said above? i had downloaded the cd/dvd isos of that time,and thats showing many errors like this one.. |
| 19:10.10 | pothibo_ | elik: indeed |
| 19:10.43 | allos_nerelin | http://pastebin.com/d49ab14f0 =\\ |
| 19:12.40 | adama | allos_nerelin install |
| 19:13.15 | elik | pothibo_, honestly, I'm out of ideas as to why it wouldn't work |
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| 19:13.55 | pothibo_ | elik: god I hate this, it's always the same thing, I want to do something and the fkin karma gets on the way and makes it impossible |
| 19:14.10 | elik | pothibo_, I got it working fairly easily for bridging my wifi to ethernet for installing on my laptop |
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| 19:14.31 | elik | pothibo_, all I have to do is static ip on ethernets, and turn on ipmasq on the server |
| 19:14.51 | elik | pothibo_, so I'd keep on working on the server-laptop cable connection |
| 19:14.55 | dury | hi there channel :) |
| 19:15.05 | elik | elik, until you can ping both ways |
| 19:15.17 | pothibo_ | elik: yeah, I'm trying to find the issue |
| 19:15.19 | elik | pothibo_, woh, my turn :P |
| 19:16.03 | dury | in this http://java.com/en/download/linux_manual.jsp?locale=en&host=java.com which package should I take for iceweasel? |
| 19:16.06 | pothibo_ | elik: ;) |
| 19:16.51 | dury | I'm trying to install java plugin for iceweasel |
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| 19:20.01 | Nyle | hey |
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| 19:20.16 | Nyle | anyone know how to make emacs use elinks instead of lynx |
| 19:20.16 | Nyle | ? |
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| 19:21.40 | grendal_prime | hey guys hows it hanging. |
| 19:21.49 | alcohol | damn |
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| 19:21.59 | alcohol | why does websvn uninstall libapache2-mod-php5 |
| 19:22.00 | alcohol | ): |
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| 19:22.09 | asdzxc | hi |
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| 19:22.49 | asdzxc | is there any tool for displaying I/O operations per process ? |
| 19:23.08 | asdzxc | or how can i find out who is reading data from HDD right now ? |
| 19:23.17 | tarzeau | grendal_prime: fluffy |
| 19:23.23 | pickcoder | the debian-sys-maint password encryption is password, btw, based on postinst |
| 19:23.35 | Doctor_Nick | where are the netinst cd images? debian |
| 19:23.38 | pickcoder | toasting the active mysqld processes worked |
| 19:23.39 | Doctor_Nick | 's website is acting screwy |
| 19:23.41 | grendal_prime | ive created this small appliance with debian stable. We want to now set up a repo so that we can apply updates to it using apt. so here is my plan. First create the repo(thats where im at now.) then deploy a package to the appliances that changes the souce.lst to point to this new repo. Also set up a cron job that looks for new packages on system boot. |
| 19:23.45 | abrotman | !d-i |
| 19:23.45 | dpkg | 4.0r4 etch is now the "Stable" debian release (April 8, 2007) see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ for images. Sarge is still available at http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ Developers page is http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ .. If you want to make custom install cds, start with d-i. IRC: oftc.net: #debian-boot. Also ask about <errata>. |
| 19:23.47 | MariachiAC | hello eveyrone. Is it possible to install debian through telent or perhaps through a live cd such as grml. It's because I'm blind and need a way of doing the install with a screen reader. |
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| 19:24.08 | abrotman | MariachiAC: the netinst has support for braille ttys IIRC |
| 19:24.27 | grendal_prime | im currently reading this http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/repository-howto/repository-howto.en.html#trivial-example |
| 19:24.27 | abrotman | or some of them anyways |
| 19:25.02 | tarzeau | MariachiAC: http://io.debian.net/~tar/gnustep/install.txt |
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| 19:26.09 | MariachiAC | Taraezu, thank you. |
| 19:26.15 | MariachiAC | Tarzeau |
| 19:26.48 | MariachiAC | Abrotman, encase I need brltty, which have support for it? I woudl rrather use speech through another computer though. |
| 19:27.08 | grendal_prime | MariachiAC: are you familar with linux already? |
| 19:27.10 | abrotman | they all sholud |
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| 19:29.22 | pothibo_ | elik: if I turn ifup eth* and there's absolutely no lights on the NIC card that lights up.. could it be a problem ? |
| 19:29.44 | MariachiAC | abrotman, if I need brltty. do I jsut insert the cd and type brltty and it shoudl start, or what should I do. |
| 19:30.06 | elik | pothibo_, sounds like potential issue, but I wouldn't know what to do to that |
| 19:30.13 | abrotman | MariachiAC: from talking to other people who use braille ttys .. that's what i've heard |
| 19:30.15 | pothibo_ | ok |
| 19:30.16 | elik | pothibo_, if the lights are out.. yeah, it won't work |
| 19:30.28 | elik | pothibo_, but bringing it up usually works... |
| 19:30.40 | elik | pothibo_, can you connect to the router through this interface? |
| 19:30.41 | abrotman | can't recall the last guy that used braille ttys .. but he used to come around a fair bit |
| 19:30.45 | pothibo_ | elik: not necessalry I have set it in the interface a static IP |
| 19:30.53 | MariachiAC | abrotman, ok and this is using the net install iso correct. Or... usingg the regular debian isntallers. |
| 19:30.56 | pothibo_ | the one that is bugged ? |
| 19:30.59 | elik | pothibo_, hum, ok |
| 19:31.01 | abrotman | MariachiAC: AIUI .. either should work |
| 19:31.17 | abrotman | MariachiAC: i've never tried it personally (i don't have a braille tty handy) |
| 19:31.20 | MariachiAC | abrotmamn, ok. I'm thinking of installing unstable. |
| 19:31.24 | elik | pothibo_, if you ask abrotman, he can cetainly solve your issue, eh abrotman? :D |
| 19:31.30 | abrotman | i've heard those things are wicked expensive |
| 19:31.42 | abrotman | !interfaces |
| 19:31.42 | dpkg | Your network configuration is in the file /etc/network/interfaces ; "man 5 interfaces" for docs, (zless /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz for an example). Start and stop your networking with ifup -a and ifdown -a respectively. See also <dhcp client>, read "man resolv.conf" for DNS. Also ask me about <static route>. |
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| 19:32.38 | MariachiAC | abrotman: yes they are... I have one, but I've not used it in a long time. |
| 19:33.16 | abrotman | MariachiAC: IIRC the -speakup kernels either got killed off or rolled into the mainline ones |
| 19:33.36 | asdzxc | is there any tool with which i can show i/o operations ? |
| 19:33.49 | S-i-A | in hosts.deny , ALL: fuzy.com "blocked all access to fuzy.com" ? |
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| 19:34.32 | MariachiAC | Abrotman: I believe they did. I heard something about it, but I don't have a hardware synthesizer to work with speakup. |
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| 19:34.45 | karlpinc | asdzxc : vmstat? sar? iostat? (systat) lsof? |
| 19:35.06 | allos_nerelin | ho do I remove mysql in debian? |
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| 19:35.48 | asdzxc | karlpinc will any of there show me also process name or pid ? |
| 19:35.49 | abrotman | MariachiAC: so what do you have? |
| 19:35.53 | abrotman | allos_nerelin: man aptitude |
| 19:36.04 | karlpinc | asdzxc : lsof |
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| 19:36.33 | karlpinc | asdzxc : Maybe sar, I forget. |
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| 19:36.55 | dury | could someone drive me how to install java plugin in iceweasel |
| 19:37.00 | Fou-Lu | http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/ch-leaders needs to have a minor update |
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| 19:37.22 | abrotman | Fou-Lu: file a bug! |
| 19:37.47 | grendal_prime | so in theory..if ive done install all the packages that have been installed should be loacted in /var/cache/apt/archives/ (assuming i have not cleared the cache)? |
| 19:37.54 | shyam_k | can i know whether lenny is now using the default kernel parameters as kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-1-686 root=/dev/sda1 ro quiet or changed it to be using uuid of disks? |
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| 19:38.26 | shyam_k | i mean about the root parameter there using uuid instead of direct device names.. |
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| 19:38.36 | dury | where does iceweasel install the plugins? |
| 19:38.41 | shyam_k | in gnewsene by default uuid is used.. |
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| 19:38.48 | allos_nerelin | http://pastebin.com/d79f6ad05 help! |
| 19:38.50 | unop | hey abrotman - downloading the Release.gpg file yesterday to my offline repo didn't really help get rid of the "untrusted packages" warning to aptitude - do you think I need to generate a Release file too ? |
| 19:38.51 | dury | which folder |
| 19:38.53 | shyam_k | and giving device names there are giving errors loading the kernel |
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| 19:41.35 | snikker | how can i know in wich cd iso "fluxbox" is? |
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| 19:43.07 | abrotman | unop: no idea .. i can't imagine you would ... |
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| 19:46.19 | TheOnly | dumb question: does the 32 bit linux kernel suffer any max memory allocation limits (e.g. no more than 4GB of system memory) ? Never really tried running on a 4+ gig machine |
| 19:46.56 | TheOnly | i presume it does not |
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| 19:47.34 | shyam_k | snikker: http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/#search |
| 19:47.37 | ifconfig | i think you will need to use bigmem kernels |
| 19:47.40 | blubberdiblub | of course it does. you cannot address more than 4 gb at a time with 32 bit. and usually even less in user space, depending on how the user/kernel space split is set |
| 19:47.47 | ifconfig | TheOnly: i think you will need to use bigmem kernels |
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| 19:48.36 | ifconfig | like linux-image-2.6.22-3-686-bigmem |
| 19:48.47 | TheOnly | but it is configurable, right? it's not a hardcoded limit |
| 19:48.47 | snikker | shyam_k: thank you |
| 19:49.01 | shyam_k | np |
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| 19:49.25 | blubberdiblub | the user space/kernel space split is configurable in the kernel config |
| 19:49.46 | ifconfig | TheOnly: no hardcoded in bigmem kernel versions |
| 19:49.48 | wd_ | trying to make "gspcav1" driver and getting error... |
| 19:49.58 | wd_ | make -C /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build SUBDIRS=/home/wd/Download/gspcav1-20071224 CC=cc modules |
| 19:49.58 | wd_ | make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.18-6-686/build: No such file or directory. Stop. |
| 19:49.58 | wd_ | make: *** [default] Error 2 |
| 19:50.04 | zerohero | hi! i'm having some problems with gdm, it gives short freezes/lockups. does anyone know what might cause that? tried google and debian bugreports but nothing found |
| 19:50.05 | wd_ | what gives? |
| 19:50.08 | zerohero | i'm using nvidia drivers, but same result with nv and vesa |
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| 19:50.12 | zerohero | and xdm doesn't have the same problem |
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| 19:50.19 | TheOnly | thank you very much |
| 19:50.21 | ifconfig | TheOnly: you could recompile your current kernel to suport 4GB too |
| 19:50.42 | TheOnly | yeah, I compile kernels myself so that wouldn't be a problem |
| 19:50.48 | TheOnly | i'll dig out the config :) |
| 19:50.54 | TheOnly | thanks |
| 19:51.03 | ifconfig | np :) |
| 19:51.08 | S-i-A | abrotman: so can i block the website to "/sbin/iptables -A OUTPUT -d www.example.com -j REJECT" with iptables |
| 19:51.43 | stevedondley | dondelelcaro: ping |
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| 19:52.48 | ifconfig | S-i-A: yes, iptables ill resolve this host automaticaly |
| 19:53.03 | blubberdiblub | S-i-A, you shouldn't use host names in iptables setups. if the resolved address changes anytime while your system is running, your firewall won't notice, and will still point to the old ip |
| 19:53.15 | abrotman | S-i-A: you could |
| 19:53.30 | zerohero | so i guess no one is having problems with gdm then, only me... |
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| 19:53.34 | blubberdiblub | S-i-A, hostnames for websites are better blocked with proxy setups, for instance |
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| 19:53.55 | Sebboh | hi. Top reports 99%wa, (wait state). How can I find out *what* specifically it is waiting on? |
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| 19:54.15 | S-i-A | blubberdiblub: and how ? hostname with proxy setups? |
| 19:54.15 | wd_ | i need build-essential to do make for webcam driver right? |
| 19:54.18 | S-i-A | if better |
| 19:55.00 | blubberdiblub | S-i-A, that's a complex issue. get some reading about setting up a proxy |
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| 19:55.18 | S-i-A | wd_: aptitude install build-essential |
| 19:55.33 | S-i-A | blubberdiblub: ok thanx |
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| 19:56.07 | S-i-A | with iptable worked yet, if the hos change ip i block again |
| 19:56.11 | S-i-A | :) |
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| 19:56.49 | blubberdiblub | yeah, you could do that. but it get's unmanageable relatively fast, with more and more websites added to your list |
| 19:57.38 | ezguy | hi, i got the followign :iFR virtualbox 1.3.2-17408_Debian_etch InnoTek VirtualBox |
| 19:57.46 | wd_ | S-i-A, i did but i'm getting error |
| 19:57.48 | pc | S-i-A, hi |
| 19:57.58 | wd_ | S-i-A, make -C /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build SUBDIRS=/home/wd/Download/gspcav1-20071224 CC=cc modules |
| 19:57.58 | wd_ | make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.18-6-686/build: No such file or directory. Stop. |
| 19:57.58 | wd_ | make: *** [default] Error 2 |
| 19:58.12 | ezguy | but can't seem to remove it. |
| 19:58.18 | S-i-A | wd_: also paste bin the erorr her |
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| 19:58.21 | ezguy | any ideas |
| 19:58.44 | wd_ | S-i-A, k |
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| 19:59.13 | blubberdiblub | wd_, are you using module-assistant to build the module? run a "m-a prepare" first |
| 19:59.20 | Sebboh | ezguy, your build directory is missing. You haven't run some other step first; it will make the build directory. (If the first step complains about the build directory being missing, you might try manually creating an empty one..) |
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| 20:00.08 | wd_ | blubberdiblub, never heard of that. following this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-364365.html |
| 20:00.10 | ezguy | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:00.29 | ezguy | Sebboh, what is the steps for fixing this problem? |
| 20:00.35 | KlrSpz | update? |
| 20:00.36 | wd_ | blubberdiblub, just dl driver, untarred it, now trying to make. |
| 20:00.49 | wd_ | blubberdiblub, cd gspcav1-20070110 |
| 20:00.49 | wd_ | make |
| 20:00.49 | wd_ | sudo make install |
| 20:00.49 | wd_ | sudo modprobe gspca |
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| 20:01.14 | KlrSpz | i can't remember the command for dpkg to renew the conf files |
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| 20:01.27 | wd_ | blubberdiblub, srry thought it was 4 lines or less |
| 20:01.29 | abrotman | !tell KlrSpz about confmiss |
| 20:01.40 | S-i-A | wd_: r u using Ubuntu? |
| 20:01.46 | abrotman | S-i-A: whole words |
| 20:01.47 | wd_ | S-i-A, etch |
| 20:02.03 | S-i-A | and why sudo ? |
| 20:02.15 | Sebboh | My cpu is in a wait state.. What is it waiting on? Disk IO I presume, but, which disk? How can I check? |
| 20:02.15 | KlrSpz | abrotman: thanks, i ALWAYS forget that command |
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| 20:02.40 | wd_ | S-i-A, because "make" alone didn't work |
| 20:02.47 | Sebboh | load average: 3.23, 3.82, 3.79 :/ |
| 20:02.56 | wd_ | S-i-A, so i tried sudo just n case. |
| 20:02.57 | S-i-A | wd_: su |
| 20:03.19 | wd_ | S-i-A, wd@debian-box:~/Download/gspcav1-20071224$ su make |
| 20:03.19 | wd_ | Unknown id: make |
| 20:03.30 | abrotman | seriously? |
| 20:03.31 | S-i-A | and try "apt-get build-dep <packagename>" |
| 20:04.44 | wd_ | S-i-A, go into "gspcav1-20071224" dir... then do ur command? |
| 20:04.54 | Sebboh | wd_ to make the Unknown id: make error go away, you'd have to add a user called make. Think carefully here.. (You don't know what any of this means. You'll have to learn some background information to make any sense of it.) |
| 20:05.08 | pothibo | elik hey I got some news... it almost works... problem is that I don't know how to connect my laptop to my server with a static IP... my server broadcast is 192.168.0.255 and server address is 192.168.0.54 |
| 20:05.25 | *** part/#debian KlrSpz (n=klrspz@67.211.44.254) |
| 20:05.41 | wd_ | Seb, omg.. i just want to install my qc webcam... lol. |
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| 20:06.02 | wd_ | Sebboh, ^^ |
| 20:06.05 | wd_ | Seb, sorry |
| 20:06.19 | Sebboh | wd_, keep your lols and your omgs to yourself. Thanks. |
| 20:06.29 | wd_ | Sebboh, yeah. |
| 20:07.11 | pothibo | elik: Plus, if I use the DHCP, the DISCOVER, OFFER, REQUEST and ACK are sent properly.. but I still can't ping each other, they are connected but it seems they can't talk to each other |
| 20:07.13 | wd_ | abrotman, wtf.. what's his problem? ^^ |
| 20:07.14 | elik | pothibo, well, with the gui, it should be fairly easy: you untick roaming mode if it is ticked, chose static, type in an ip, like 192.168.0.56, subnet 255.255.255.0 and gateway to your server, that is 192.168.0.54 |
| 20:07.44 | pothibo | elik okay |
| 20:07.52 | wd_ | abrotman, did i offend him or what? |
| 20:08.02 | abrotman | wd_: people like to speak in english .. not AOL |
| 20:08.55 | elik | pothibo, wait, you're saying dhcp works... but what address are you given? |
| 20:09.03 | wd_ | abrotman, k. he need to say that then... no reason to speak that way to fellow debian users. |
| 20:09.21 | wd_ | abrotman, but i thank you. |
| 20:09.21 | abrotman | wd_: it wasn't that bad :) |
| 20:09.28 | abrotman | !qc |
| 20:09.30 | abrotman | bah .. |
| 20:09.43 | abrotman | wd_: i thought the drivers for the qc were already in debian |
| 20:09.45 | elik | it was harsh... |
| 20:10.02 | wd_ | elik, i agree. |
| 20:10.07 | pothibo | elik 192.168.0.15 |
| 20:10.11 | abrotman | i've seen worse ... |
| 20:10.14 | wd_ | abrotman, didn't see it |
| 20:10.18 | abrotman | anyways ... |
| 20:10.19 | defrysk | oh how sensitive we are |
| 20:10.23 | wd_ | abrotman, yeah me too but golly gee. |
| 20:10.27 | elik | pothibo, ok... and you still can't ping 192.168.0.54 from your laptop? |
| 20:10.39 | pothibo | elik with netmask 255.255.255.224 |
| 20:10.46 | elik | pothibo, errr |
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| 20:10.57 | pothibo | elik it says it's a broadcast adress.. which I don't understand |
| 20:10.58 | wd_ | abrotman, i'll check again in kernel. |
| 20:11.13 | elik | pothibo, .54 is odd.. can't be broadcast |
| 20:11.21 | elik | err, even |
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| 20:11.37 | pothibo | elik yeah .255 is |
| 20:11.56 | elik | pothibo, well, not on that subnet |
| 20:11.56 | phlux | How can I find out which /dev device my iPod is using? |
| 20:12.09 | Avernos | anyone knows a howto for building a debian basic server? with email ftp webpage ? |
| 20:12.26 | elik | pothibo, you might want to lookup you dhcp server config.. but I don't know how that work |
| 20:12.39 | abrotman | !doc |
| 20:12.39 | dpkg | from memory, doc is ...files are now stored under /usr/share/doc, or see documentation, or apt-cache search -- "-doc$" |
| 20:12.45 | elik | pothibo, usually, servers have .1 address as well.. but that shouldn't change anything |
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| 20:12.52 | Avernos | i have apache working, i just dont know how to link the domain with the server dns stuff.. bind9.. im quite lost with that |
| 20:12.52 | phlux | How can I find out which /dev device my iPod is using? |
| 20:12.53 | abrotman | Avernos: there are a few manuals at debian.org you may want to read |
| 20:12.57 | wd_ | abrotman, is all this neccessary for adding qc in kernel.. i can' t do menuconfig, make, make install and wala? |
| 20:13.00 | Avernos | oki abrotman |
| 20:13.04 | wd_ | abrotman, http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_debian_etch |
| 20:13.07 | abrotman | wd_: not gentoo! |
| 20:13.19 | wd_ | abrotman, :) |
| 20:13.21 | pothibo | elik okay |
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| 20:13.32 | abrotman | wd_: which kernel is it? .18 or .24 ? |
| 20:13.34 | wd_ | abrotman, you and your memory. |
| 20:13.49 | abrotman | wd_: it's worse IRL :) |
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| 20:13.54 | pothibo | elik Oh OH! I can ping 192.168.0.54 from my laptop |
| 20:14.01 | elik | pothibo, oh, nice |
| 20:14.09 | wd_ | abrotman, 2.6.18-6-686 |
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| 20:14.11 | elik | pothibo, you couldn't ping .255, and that's normal |
| 20:14.17 | abrotman | wd_: i'ts a usb device? |
| 20:14.21 | elik | pothibo, since it is on a different subnetwork |
| 20:14.25 | abrotman | wd_: have you tried the etchnhalf kernel? |
| 20:14.26 | wd_ | abrotman, yes qc |
| 20:14.38 | abrotman | hey . it could be serial! :) |
| 20:14.39 | wd_ | abrotman, ? nvr heard |
| 20:14.39 | phlux | How can I find out which /dev device my iPod is using? |
| 20:14.43 | pothibo | elik yeah, but now both computer can ping each other ;) |
| 20:14.43 | abrotman | phlux: dmesg |
| 20:14.48 | phlux | tried that |
| 20:14.54 | elik | pothibo, that's pretty good |
| 20:15.00 | phlux | usb 1-3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 9 |
| 20:15.01 | phlux | usb 1-3: configuration #1 chosen from 3 choices |
| 20:15.03 | abrotman | wd_: aptitdue update && aptitude search etchnhalf .. see the etchnhalf .24 kernels .. get the right one for your CPU .. try it |
| 20:15.04 | elik | pothibo, now, can you ping google.ca, for instance? |
| 20:15.08 | phlux | that's the only thing it's telling me, abrotman |
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| 20:15.21 | wd_ | abrotman, you're super .. k |
| 20:15.27 | abrotman | see .. english! |
| 20:15.27 | pothibo | elik just tried. No :( |
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| 20:15.38 | elik | pothibo, kk, and ipmasq is started there? |
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| 20:15.44 | abrotman | phlux: i'd guess it to be a usb mass storage device .. did you compile your own kernel ? |
| 20:15.45 | pothibo | elik just launched it |
| 20:15.50 | hulatang | how can i bind my host to a different IP |
| 20:15.51 | elik | pothibo, try again |
| 20:15.54 | phlux | abrotman, no |
| 20:16.02 | Sebboh | wd_ sorry to bother you. The server for my business is down right now, and I'm trying to get help. |
| 20:16.05 | pothibo | elik but hang on, google.com could be a dns issue... |
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| 20:16.48 | elik | pothibo, indeed |
| 20:16.52 | elik | pothibo, let me give you the ip |
| 20:17.04 | elik | pothibo, 72.14.207.104 |
| 20:17.10 | pothibo | elik found it.. on this box (i'm using bitchx on thew server) |
| 20:17.30 | pothibo | elik but no access to the WWW |
| 20:17.35 | elik | pothibo, oh, right, you still have a connection -_- silly me |
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| 20:18.16 | pothibo | elik ;) |
| 20:19.20 | elik | pothibo, now that I think about it, when I messed with ipmasq, I did setup the DNS server to be my ISP's ip address... but that was through debian netinstaller, so I don't know how to set it up.. it's a file somewhere |
| 20:19.36 | pothibo | elik /etc/resolv.conf |
| 20:19.40 | phlux | abrotman, where are mass storage devices usually? I need to know so I can mount it, heh |
| 20:19.48 | elik | pothibo, indeed |
| 20:20.15 | pothibo | elik but it's not a dns error, it seems that eth1 doesn't talk to eth0 |
| 20:20.19 | abrotman | phlux: usually /dev/sda1 or the like |
| 20:20.32 | elik | pothibo, that's usually what ipmasq takes care of |
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| 20:20.43 | phlux | abrotman, I have several 'sda's |
| 20:20.51 | pothibo | elik I know... |
| 20:20.52 | phlux | not sure which is which.. none of them disappear if I unplug the iPod |
| 20:20.57 | elik | pothibo, see some non local traffic, and forward it to its gateway |
| 20:21.04 | abrotman | phlux: then it sounds like it's not recognized .. lsusb mighthelp ? |
| 20:21.44 | pothibo | elik well something is obviously not workin properly |
| 20:22.11 | phlux | Bus 001 Device 011: ID 05ac:1291 Apple, Inc. |
| 20:22.11 | elik | pothibo, well, if you can't ping non-local ips, that's for sure |
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| 20:23.36 | elik | pothibo, and on the server, can you ping google? |
| 20:23.50 | happosade | can i download some app sources from repos and make them later |
| 20:23.50 | blubberdiblub | phlux: plug it in and immediately after, check "dmesg | tail -n 20". that output should provide a hint as to which device name it gets assigned |
| 20:24.06 | happosade | dont ask why, just for testing |
| 20:24.14 | pothibo | elik yes, i'm talkin to you... |
| 20:24.26 | sine_ | hi chaps just a quickie, i installed debian on a partition that i just logged into and i want to have a little play is it possible for me to update this version via the console or will i need to reinstall |
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| 20:24.39 | phlux | not telling me anything new |
| 20:24.48 | elik | pothibo, sorry, still having a hard time figuring out what is plugged where :P |
| 20:24.59 | pothibo | elik hehe yeah, it's understandable |
| 20:25.18 | elik | pothibo, you are on the server atm? |
| 20:25.23 | idimmu | sine_: you can update via the console |
| 20:25.29 | elik | pothibo, like, cli irc? |
| 20:25.39 | blubberdiblub | phlux, not even if you do it again now? usb devices need a couple of seconds to get registered. paste the dmesg output to a pastebin |
| 20:25.41 | pothibo | elik, yes. BitchX |
| 20:25.47 | sine_ | is there an update all type scenario or are there a few lines i need to do |
| 20:25.47 | elik | pothibo, oh, kk |
| 20:25.53 | sine_ | im gonna have a look on google now |
| 20:26.27 | elik | pothibo, and on the laptop, you are connected to the server, but pings wont got through the server |
| 20:26.28 | sine_ | updating you debian pacage |
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| 20:26.39 | sine_ | package even. |
| 20:26.41 | pothibo | elik correct |
| 20:26.43 | elik | pothibo, my reflex would be to put a network analyser on the server |
| 20:26.55 | pothibo | elik wireshark? |
| 20:26.58 | elik | pothibo, I usually use wireshark |
| 20:26.59 | pothibo | tcp dump? |
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| 20:27.08 | elik | pothibo, but I guess tcpdump would be better in your case |
| 20:27.16 | elik | pothibo, although I never really used it |
| 20:27.46 | elik | pothibo, the thing is, when you ping on your client, you should see ping coming in on the cable connected to the client |
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| 20:28.06 | zerohero | bah |
| 20:28.07 | elik | pothibo, and going out on the server-router connection |
| 20:28.14 | phlux | abrotman, http://pastebin.ca/1187822 |
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| 20:28.56 | zerohero | there seem to be no one nowher who happen to know about short freezes of the system, 1-3 seconds, when using gdm? |
| 20:29.00 | abrotman | phlux: right .. something is wrong with it .. can't mount it |
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| 20:30.02 | pothibo | elik funny stuff, if I Ping google, nothing comes up on the tcpdump. but if I ping my server it comes up.. |
| 20:30.06 | Sebboh | zerohero, interrupt issue.. PS2 mouse? |
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| 20:30.19 | zerohero | Sebboh: yes, ps2 mouse |
| 20:30.27 | zerohero | Sebboh: is it actually known? |
| 20:30.29 | elik | pothibo, well, if dns isn't working, what you would see would be dns request, prior to any ping |
| 20:30.32 | Sebboh | zerohero, forget my comment, though... I thought you said gpm. ;P |
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| 20:30.47 | blubberdiblub | pothibo, does the ping command output any error, and if so, what? |
| 20:30.49 | pothibo | elik well it seems it's not even askin for DNS |
| 20:30.54 | zerohero | Sebboh: heh |
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| 20:31.01 | jaalto | MRXVT does not seem to display Latin-1 charters from keyboard correctl. The LANG is set to UTF-8. Is there anything that can be done? gnome-terminal displays characters correctly. |
| 20:31.03 | elik | pothibo, what did you put in resolv.conf? |
| 20:31.10 | zerohero | Sebboh: and i was this | | close to being happy ;) |
| 20:31.42 | pothibo | blubberdiblub ping: unkown host www.google.com but if I use google's IP it says: Network is unreachable |
| 20:31.51 | Sebboh | zerohero, there's some tool that tells you interrupts per second from different devices, or something.. Maybe someone in here knows the name of it. Good luck! |
| 20:31.56 | pothibo | elik of my server? it is my ISP's gateway |
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| 20:32.14 | pothibo | elik oh but my laptop has probably 192.168.0.1 as dns server.... thinkin about it |
| 20:32.18 | elik | pothibo, nope, client |
| 20:32.22 | blubberdiblub | pothibo, well, unknown host means it can't resolve the hostname. check your /etc/resolv.conf |
| 20:32.29 | elik | pothibo, that's why you don't receive it ;) |
| 20:33.26 | elik | pothibo, in the worst case, it should be set to your server .54... if you have a dns deamon on there, which I doubt. In that case , you should set it to your ISP's |
| 20:33.29 | wd_ | abrotman, should i just upgrade to the etchnhalf 2.6.24 while i'm here? |
| 20:33.30 | pothibo | TADA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 20:33.36 | abrotman | wd_: sure .. why not |
| 20:33.55 | blubberdiblub | pothibo, and for the network unreachable error, there are 2 causes that come to my mind. a) does your laptop have the correct default route set? (a.k.a. gateway) b) is your server configured to forward ip traffic? |
| 20:33.59 | pothibo | After 10 hjours and a half, 12 cup of coffee and 34 231 swear words! |
| 20:34.05 | pothibo | I made it |
| 20:34.12 | wd_ | abrotman, how do you find out all these things.... darnit abrotman. :) |
| 20:34.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | pothibo, that's not it - if you don;t reach a (present) IP either and get "network unreachable' that means your network is not configured |
| 20:34.15 | elik | pothibo, gratz |
| 20:34.31 | pothibo | elik thanks for your patience!! |
| 20:34.35 | wd_ | abrotman, do i need header files also? |
| 20:34.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | pothibo, so probably the router is missing and/or you don't have an ip |
| 20:34.45 | abrotman | wd_: i have a great lookup table in RAM |
| 20:34.59 | abrotman | wd_: if you want them for something else .. why not |
| 20:35.05 | elik | pothibo, no worries, I ask often enough to answer once in a while ;) |
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| 20:35.33 | pothibo | CutMeOwnThroat yeah I can't resolv name right now because I used my server as a dns address... but I'm going to set it up and it will work |
| 20:36.09 | pothibo | oh yeah bind9 started, DNS SERVER WORKING! |
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| 20:36.27 | pothibo | I resolve everything man i'm relieved |
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| 20:36.48 | blubberdiblub | but can you ping it also? |
| 20:36.57 | blubberdiblub | ah, okay |
| 20:37.11 | pothibo_ | yeah I can :)_ |
| 20:37.18 | sharp15 | there is a config file for kdesu where should i put it in /etc/kde3 ? the gentoo is using a diffirent directory lagout. |
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| 20:39.27 | pothibo_ | laptop working all the way :D |
| 20:39.27 | pothibo_ | now it's time to play with DHCP to make it work properly... |
| 20:39.27 | pothibo_ | oops, the plug's wire is broken :) |
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| 20:41.49 | pothibo_ | elik: a broadcast address has to be inside my subnet ? |
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| 20:42.20 | elik | pothibo, well, every subnet has a broadcast address |
| 20:42.21 | wd_ | abrotman, pre-built loadable modules.. how interesting. :) where could i see these prebuilt mods? just go to drivers dir? |
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| 20:42.43 | pothibo_ | elik: and I can set whatever address I want ? |
| 20:42.44 | abrotman | /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ |
| 20:42.59 | wd_ | abrotman, ok.. time to reboot.. :) |
| 20:43.02 | elik | pothibo, so say you have a 255.255.255.0 netmask, broadcat on that network is .255 |
| 20:43.08 | pothibo_ | ok |
| 20:43.25 | elik | pothibo, but if mask is .128, one bcast address is 127 and the other is .255 |
| 20:43.42 | elik | pothibo, and so on, as you netmask becomes smaller |
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| 20:44.00 | elik | pothibo, you can only have an address under the subnetmask your gateway is on |
| 20:44.05 | pothibo_ | ok, so if I use a mask of 224 netmask is 223 and 255 ? |
| 20:44.23 | elik | pothibo, well, there are more than that |
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| 20:44.27 | blubberdiblub | pothibo_, you could use ipcalc or sipcalc to easily get you the interesting addresses for any ip/cidr |
| 20:44.34 | elik | pothibo, 224 makes a whole lot of subnets |
| 20:44.51 | elik | blubberdiblub, nice, never heard of that :) |
| 20:45.47 | pothibo_ | blubberdiblub: okay nice |
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| 20:46.01 | elik | pothibo, let me find you a good website that explains ip addresses and subnetworks |
| 20:46.22 | blubberdiblub | pothibo_: you could then for example use the command "ipcalc 192.168.0.54/255.255.255.224" and it would output the ip range, broadcast address etc. |
| 20:46.37 | elik | pothibo, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subnetwork that would be a good start |
| 20:46.52 | pothibo_ | okay nice |
| 20:47.11 | pothibo_ | right now, I'll try to get this dhcp to work because I have 2 flatmate waiting on me to make this stuff work ;) |
| 20:47.16 | pothibo_ | I'll learn after |
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| 20:47.24 | elik | pothibo, ok :) |
| 20:47.26 | pothibo_ | brb |
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| 20:47.29 | elik | pothibo, wait |
| 20:47.41 | elik | pothibo, I see a potential issue here |
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| 20:47.55 | blubberdiblub | elik, indeed ;) |
| 20:47.57 | grendal_prime | alright im going crazy with this repo deal |
| 20:48.07 | elik | pothibo, the fact that your router is probably distributing the same addresses that your server |
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| 20:49.10 | jester45 | grendal_prime, what you doing with the repo |
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| 20:49.11 | grendal_prime | i have a box with http running and the root of my repo is http://192.168.1.101 and the packages are located in http://192.168.1.1/repo1/binary |
| 20:49.13 | eptalon | heyas |
| 20:49.20 | elik | pothibo, your home router should really be gone if you want to avoid problem |
| 20:49.21 | elik | s |
| 20:49.35 | eptalon | home router? |
| 20:49.49 | elik | eptalon, uh, yeah? |
| 20:49.50 | grendal_prime | ya basically soooo my source.list should read?? |
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| 20:50.19 | eptalon | ok, different story. |
| 20:50.19 | freebse | I hate configured Video driver, a dist upgrade destroyed my X server and now OpenGL is gone... a feature that noone needs i.m.p.o.v. |
| 20:50.22 | kenjy | what difference do we have bettwen lenny and testing? |
| 20:50.23 | mactimes | Hi. Could someone tell me if TomCat 5.5 is still broken for Debian Etch, please? |
| 20:50.27 | grendal_prime | deb http://192.168.1.1/repo1 binary? |
| 20:50.31 | elik | kenjy, none |
| 20:50.32 | jester45 | grendal_prime, you using a guide or just winging it? |
| 20:50.43 | grendal_prime | using the guide |
| 20:50.52 | kenjy | elik: Im tryng to do debootstrap --arch i386 lenny /vz/private/777 http://debian.osuosl.org/debian/ |
| 20:50.53 | jester45 | do you have a url? |
| 20:51.03 | deakillo | hello, linuw nebiew here.. i know there are a lot of packages and apps for debian but i wonder if there is a site of apps raiting? i mean i just need per each task.. i know opernoffice is the best.. but what about media player.. image viewer.. movie player.. etc etc.. is there any site? |
| 20:51.04 | kenjy | but it shows W: http://debian.osuosl.org/debian/dists/lenny/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz was corrupt |
| 20:51.07 | eptalon | One of my cables died (used to do 100 MBit/s); fut for an NFS server I want to do Gbit Ethernet over TP, what kiind of cable do I need? |
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| 20:51.36 | eptalon | deakillo: vlc.. |
| 20:51.39 | wd_ | abrotman, hmm i'm in /lib/modules/2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686..searching in drivers dir.. can't find cams at all. |
| 20:51.48 | eptalon | deakillo: plays more or less everything. |
| 20:51.51 | grendal_prime | jester trying to set up a trivial repo |
| 20:51.58 | jester45 | deakillo, my advice is try it and pick your favorite... many people will say vlc for video mplayer is also a good one |
| 20:52.00 | elik | kenjy, wew, dunno about debootstrap |
| 20:52.05 | wd_ | abrotman, looked in video, image.... darn it. |
| 20:52.19 | kenjy | can some one help me to do a deboostrap? |
| 20:52.20 | wd_ | abrotman, kernel rocks though. :) fast |
| 20:52.27 | eptalon | deakillo: The other option is xine, but thats mainly for video |
| 20:52.29 | grendal_prime | i keep getting a 404 not found though |
| 20:52.36 | elik | kenjy, think the diff between testing and lenny, is that at some point, lenny will become released, but testing will always stay testing... |
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| 20:52.57 | blubberdiblub | eptalon, cat6 should do |
| 20:53.08 | jester45 | deakillo, i use mpd for music because its lightweight but rythmbox (gtk) and amork (qt/kde) are the best music players |
| 20:53.23 | eptalon | blubberdiblub: Also if I want camble lengths like 10-15m? |
| 20:53.33 | abrotman | wd_: i'd think it would be there .. find the kernelm odule name |
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| 20:53.55 | eptalon | deakillo: Though the amarok in debian is a little dated. |
| 20:54.13 | wd_ | abrotman, k |
| 20:54.15 | blubberdiblub | eptalon, up to 100 meters should work |
| 20:54.27 | deakillo | im trying tetem movie player its ok i guess.. no problem until now.. for music i install amarok and i will try exaile in a moment.. |
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| 20:54.44 | eptalon | blubberdiblub: Oh. there was one cat that could also be used, but was limited in length.. |
| 20:54.50 | eptalon | Was that 5e? |
| 20:55.09 | blubberdiblub | yep, i think so |
| 20:55.09 | deakillo | I need a good image viewer, I have a lot of images and I like to watch |
| 20:55.24 | eptalon | deakillo: still images? |
| 20:55.24 | vlt | Hello. What do I need to enable ssh access to the system running from initrd (before root fs is mounted)? |
| 20:55.31 | jester45 | deakillo, what desktop are you using? gnome or kde |
| 20:55.48 | grendal_prime | just does not make sence |
| 20:55.56 | eptalon | deakillo: the one with the big paw is gnome. |
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| 20:56.09 | deakillo | i install xfce cause i read it was faster.. and i install as well e16 cause i read it was good looking |
| 20:56.30 | deakillo | i mean e16 just window manager |
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| 20:56.44 | deakillo | and its running very smooth |
| 20:56.51 | deakillo | more smooth than the gnome one |
| 20:57.34 | grendal_prime | soo if my packages are located in http://192.168.1.1/repo1/binary what would i use for a source.lst entry to get apt-get to see the packages.gz file in the binary folder there.??? |
| 20:57.36 | grendal_prime | grrrrrrrr |
| 20:57.41 | eptalon | deakillo: The window manager is just another app, personally I use XFCE4, but tastes differ. |
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| 20:58.04 | wd_ | abrotman, you know what.. you were right... this box is just as fast as gentoo...damn it! so that 2.4 kernel. is just sluggish huh? |
| 20:58.18 | deakillo | another app? you mean that i cannot use gnome or kde apps in e16? |
| 20:58.28 | jester45 | so you have gtk try rhythmbox its pretty good |
| 20:58.38 | deakillo | im running lots of gnome and kde aps |
| 20:58.39 | deakillo | no problems |
| 20:58.40 | abrotman | wd_: uh maybe? |
| 20:59.07 | deakillo | jester45: i like radio streams.. does it have? |
| 20:59.12 | jester45 | yea |
| 20:59.13 | eptalon | deakillo: KDE and GNOME basically install a "big" library; then you can use them in E16; but they will have the gnome or kde look, not the E16 look. |
| 20:59.22 | wd_ | abrotman, i hate when ur always right. :) |
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| 20:59.25 | blubberdiblub | epsilon, no, sorry, i guess you can also use cat5, which would then be the one with the shorter limits |
| 20:59.26 | abrotman | english! |
| 20:59.27 | abrotman | :) |
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| 20:59.30 | blubberdiblub | oops |
| 20:59.36 | blubberdiblub | i mean eptalon ^^ |
| 20:59.36 | wd_ | ok |
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| 20:59.37 | abrotman | wd_: but still no driver? |
| 20:59.57 | eptalon | blubberdiblub: but its not worth the price difference, I gues. |
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| 20:59.59 | deakillo | eptalon: well im not using xfce with e16.. maybe thats weird im not sure |
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| 21:00.10 | pothibo__ | Soryr I had an issue ;) |
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| 21:00.12 | pothibo__ | elik: you wanted to say somethin ? |
| 21:00.21 | wd_ | abrotman, can't even find ibmcam..i'm might have to just go into menuconfig. |
| 21:00.24 | eptalon | deakillo: As I said, the WM is personal taste. |
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| 21:00.43 | blubberdiblub | eptalon, yeah, i think cat5e is quasi-standard nowadays |
| 21:00.47 | deakillo | eptalon: i will know in a future.. btw i know about linux but just the theory.. i took 1 class.. but now i will practice that knowledge |
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| 21:01.04 | eptalon | deakillo: http://xwinman.org/ has a list of several of them. |
| 21:01.06 | deakillo | and im taking another class next month |
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| 21:01.12 | deakillo | thanks aptalon |
| 21:01.12 | apt | deakillo: bitte |
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| 21:01.19 | pothibo__ | elik: sry d/c agained, d-link's router doesn't like me anymore |
| 21:01.25 | abrotman | wd_: modconf ? |
| 21:01.28 | pothibo__ | elik: so what you wanted to tell me ? |
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| 21:02.08 | abrotman | wd_: the .18 i have here has ibmcam.ko |
| 21:02.11 | elik | pothibo__, well, yeah |
| 21:02.13 | deakillo | debian - xfce - e16.. thast my combo right now.. |
| 21:02.14 | jester45 | deakillo, i hope you like it... and feel free to come in here and learn/ask questions or even teach some thing |
| 21:02.26 | abrotman | wd_: /lib/modules/2.6.18-6-686/kernel/drivers/media/video/usbvideo/ibmcam.ko |
| 21:02.26 | deakillo | i try fluxbox and its very fast but e16 is similar but good looking |
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| 21:02.37 | elik | pothibo__, with this configuration, your router won't really appreciate.. the router should be gone |
| 21:03.19 | wd_ | abrotman, nvr used it.. but i just googled modconf it's awesome.. but there's discover? |
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| 21:03.28 | jester45 | deakillo, if your in the mood to mess around with your system try blackbox or openbox they are very much the same as fluxbox but tend to look better |
| 21:03.29 | pothibo__ | elik: it will as soon as I get my hand on a wireless card that can support master mode, my linksys rt2500 doesn't do it. |
| 21:03.35 | deakillo | jester45: thanks a lot.. i already love linux, even when i was not using it lol.. but now that i have the time.. im using this time for 100% for linux |
| 21:03.36 | wd_ | abrotman, oh media/video... k |
| 21:03.46 | deakillo | i have this week.. until Tuesday |
| 21:03.52 | elik | pothibo__, oh, k, I see |
| 21:03.59 | deakillo | coffee and keyboard thats all |
| 21:04.11 | elik | pothibo__, otherwise, it's really messy for the networks |
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| 21:04.26 | deakillo | jester45: thanks a lot |
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| 21:05.24 | elik | pothibo__, you have a server that does a subnet with he same ip address as your router |
| 21:05.51 | blubberdiblub | pothibo__, the rt2500 should be able to provide master mode ... only the linux drivers for the rt2x00 chipsets don't do that yet, unfortunately :/ |
| 21:06.21 | pothibo__ | blubberdiblub: which is what I mean: rt2500 doesnt do master mode |
| 21:06.42 | pothibo__ | if it would, I would use it right now and throw myd-link router in the bin |
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| 21:07.39 | elik | pothibo__, blubberdiblub isn't there anything to do with ndiswrapper? |
| 21:08.35 | shyam_k | is there any standard way in debian so as to reduce the restrictions for user,to suite use of debian in a home computer without internet connection? |
| 21:09.00 | shyam_k | i mean like the user cant write to external partitions.. and such things..' |
| 21:09.07 | pothibo__ | elik: not that I'm aware of |
| 21:09.09 | blubberdiblub | elik, erm, you don't have to use ndiswrapper for rt2x00 chipsets. there are native linux drivers for that |
| 21:09.30 | eptalon | shyam_k: done qwith user groups. |
| 21:09.32 | elik | blubberdiblub, well yeah, but they don't support master mode.. |
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| 21:09.59 | blubberdiblub | elik, yep ... well, they didn't. i'm right now checking if they maybe do now |
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| 21:10.27 | \amethyst | shyam_k: add the user to the plugdev group for that ( adduser username plugdev ) |
| 21:10.36 | blubberdiblub | elik, and i don't think that ndiswrapper can support master mode, or am i mistaken here? |
| 21:10.45 | kenjy | its lenny aproach to become stable? |
| 21:11.04 | pothibo__ | blubberdiblub: well, apparently it can.,.. |
| 21:11.20 | eptalon | was "Shoot them up" a good movie? |
| 21:11.26 | \amethyst | shyam_k: other groups that might be useful are powerdev and netdev (and maybe others depending on what hardware you have) |
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| 21:11.54 | shyam_k | ok lott of complaints are heard that system is over concerned about security also when used in isolated computers.. |
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| 21:12.05 | pothibo__ | blubberdiblub: nvm what I said.. it's not. |
| 21:12.10 | shyam_k | ok so adding users to these groups should solve the problem right.. ill have a try.. |
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| 21:12.42 | blubberdiblub | pothibo__, http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/joomla/index.php?/component/option,com_openwiki/Itemid,33/id,faq/#is_master_mode_or_promiscuous_mode_supported |
| 21:12.57 | Silvestre_ | hi guys, ive tried to install the acerhk driver on etch, ive intalled the acerhk-source_0.5.35-5_all.deb package (dpkg -i acerhk-source_0.5.35-5_all.deb), but now i dont know what can i do for use this package, can u help me please?? |
| 21:12.58 | pothibo__ | blubberdiblub: yeah I just read it.. |
| 21:13.03 | eptalon | shyam_k: Security is very heavyweight when you cannot rule out physical access. |
| 21:13.29 | freebse | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=490525 I got this problem, but the sollution does not work, maybe someone knows a workaround, otherwise I will add it to the buglist |
| 21:13.39 | shyam_k | eptalon: of course for a distribution in general u cant compromise on security |
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| 21:13.52 | blubberdiblub | pothibo__, it's because windows was not designed to support master mode in the first place. that some windows drivers do it anyways is only because they implement their own hacks to achieve it |
| 21:13.56 | shyam_k | eptalon: but there should be some way to bypass in case the user dont want it too.. |
| 21:14.13 | pothibo__ | elik, blubberdiblub: but it says on serialmonkey's website that master mode is supported on the new beta driver, I have compiled the cvs and master mode is not supported... |
| 21:14.19 | shyam_k | yeah thanks a lott ill check on user groups.. |
| 21:14.21 | eptalon | shyam_k: All I am saying: If you cannot rule out physiucal access, you might want to look into (on the fly) encyryption. |
| 21:14.36 | elik | pothibo__, ... odd |
| 21:14.44 | blubberdiblub | pothibo__, which driver? the rt2500 or the rt2x00? |
| 21:14.48 | elik | pothibo__, maybe you can try and email them or find someone here |
| 21:14.49 | pothibo__ | rt2500 |
| 21:14.53 | shyam_k | eptalon: i want reduced security!:) |
| 21:14.59 | shyam_k | ill be back in lenny.. |
| 21:15.03 | blubberdiblub | pothibo__, that's it then. use rt2x00 |
| 21:15.05 | shyam_k | by for a moment.. |
| 21:15.09 | shyam_k | and thanks.. |
| 21:15.30 | pothibo__ | blubberdiblub: god I'm stupid, I was on this page for 2 hours, and never saw the first paragraph.. |
| 21:16.01 | pothibo__ | blubberdiblub, elik sometimes I wonder if it's me who's really stupid, or .... no.. There's no "or" hehe |
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| 21:16.29 | blubberdiblub | pothibo__, we all have our bad days ;) |
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| 21:16.44 | elik | pothibo__, lol :P |
| 21:17.09 | Silvestre_ | hi guys, ive tried to install the acerhk driver on etch, ive intalled the acerhk-source_0.5.35-5_all.deb package (dpkg -i acerhk-source_0.5.35-5_all.deb), but now i dont know what can i do for use this package, can u help me please?? |
| 21:17.12 | pothibo__ | yeah true, it's been a rough month ;) |
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| 21:19.16 | infinity_ | whats better ... apache2-mpm-prefork or apache2-mpm-worker |
| 21:20.00 | blubberdiblub | !better |
| 21:20.00 | dpkg | [better] a matter of personal taste; asking "is foo better than bar?" is almost meaningless unless we know what *you* mean by "better". |
| 21:20.08 | infinity_ | blubberdiblub: blah. no fun |
| 21:20.27 | infinity_ | everyone has an opinion |
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| 21:37.02 | smev81 | can someone give me a link to a sane fgrlx how-to/tutorial/wiki for lenny, please? |
| 21:37.50 | NeonLightning | smev81 /msg dpkg fgrlx |
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| 21:40.42 | smev81 | and this ( dpkg: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ?, smev81 ) is all there is? |
| 21:41.09 | pzn | Hi. I need to do atomic file-transfers. I'm using "scp file remotehost:file.tmp && ssh remotehost 'mv file.tmp file'". is there an fastest option, since all files are small and scp/ssh is slow to login? |
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| 21:43.30 | simNIX | not sure what you meen by atominc file trasers - maybe rsync can do waht you want ?? |
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| 21:44.43 | smev81 | how can i get 3d with a radeon 1950 in lenny? |
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| 21:46.45 | brianski | howdy. i'm wondering what the easiest way to get a "live" cd (read: it has openssh installed so i can back up the hard drive) on hp parisc architecture... any ideas? the debian live project only has amd64 and x86 images that i can find :( |
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| 21:47.27 | sander_ | How do I find out which xorg driver I need to install to get x working with X -configure ? |
| 21:47.34 | pzn | simNIX: I mean that file in destination directory will have a temporary name during transfer, and will only have regular name when transfer is finished and OK.. |
| 21:47.54 | pzn | simNIX: I'll check about rsync, it is a good idea to use it. |
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| 21:49.13 | allos_nerelin | http://pastebin.com/d4130ec74 |
| 21:49.18 | allos_nerelin | help=me |
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| 21:53.27 | [a1] | under my console ...how can i change the time? |
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| 21:55.05 | simNIX | most excact time you get with ntpdate (publicntpserver)- manual you could use date |
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| 21:56.05 | pothibo__ | blubberdiblub: have you ever compile the nextgeneration rt2x00 driver ? |
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| 21:57.03 | blubberdiblub | pothibo__, no, i prefer to wait until i have the functionality in the debian kernel |
| 21:57.16 | simNIX | al: also have a look at hwclock |
| 21:57.45 | pothibo__ | blubberdiblub: hehe ok, cuz this is quite complex, I don't want to destroy everything |
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| 21:58.18 | blubberdiblub | pothibo__, yeah, that's why i never got into a thing like that ;) |
| 21:58.30 | alex______1 | how can i change time under console? |
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| 21:59.43 | Tramp | !tell alex______1 about set the time |
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| 22:01.00 | pothibo__ | blubberdiblub: oh well, I don't want to pay 40$ for another Wlan card... so I'm going to risk it, problem is that I don't know if I have to compile the whole kernel or if I can only compile the module |
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| 22:03.09 | phlux | any idea why my new laptop won't boot the latest kernel? (.25) |
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| 22:05.27 | phlux | what's the latest kernel in packages? |
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| 22:05.53 | streuner | depends what kind of release you use |
| 22:06.01 | phlux | Lenny |
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| 22:06.41 | streuner | packages.debian.org/linux-image-2.6. |
| 22:08.12 | NeoIce | whats the best way to update the kernel? the page I was reading said just 'apt-get install linux-kernel-2.6.25-amd64' or something, but that causes my system to panic |
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| 22:09.23 | elik_ | How can I find out where a module is launched, and pass arguments to it on launch |
| 22:09.39 | elik_ | To, say... activate my rtap interface |
| 22:09.47 | phlux | Does dpkg have any info on upgrading the kernel? |
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| 22:10.59 | tweakism | So, I added a br0 to /etc/network/interfaces w/ a static ip, and it works fine.. but not eth0 doesn't get its configured static ip? Am I missing something about how bridges are supposed to work? I mean, is it invalid for the bridges interfaces AND the bridge itself to have an inet addr? |
| 22:11.01 | pothibo__ | anyone has ever compile the next generation rt2x00 driver ?? |
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| 22:12.43 | NeoIce | is there some reason updating FROM an etchnhalf kernel would break thigns? |
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| 22:14.33 | tweakism | NeoIce: Sure, lots of reasons it could break lots of things :P What specifically is broken? |
| 22:14.34 | snewp | hi, i have debian sid, when it tries to boot up some of the init scripts failed. It says read-only file system. Any idea? |
| 22:15.11 | NeoIce | tweakism: 'kernel panic: VFS unable to mount root' I believe |
| 22:15.17 | tweakism | snewp: Make sure you /etc/fstab properly lists rw for the relevant things.. but it may not be a big deal.. please post more details of the error message you receive. |
| 22:15.29 | tweakism | NeoIce: What filesystem is on / ? |
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| 22:15.36 | NeoIce | ext3 |
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| 22:16.07 | snewp | tweakism: I have tried to locate the error message. Can you help me find it? Tried looking at dmesg no go |
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| 22:16.24 | tweakism | NeoIce: Maybe you need to generate an initramfs that contains ext3.ko |
| 22:16.46 | Feravolo | i also have seen that same problem with an dual amd64 2.0 system hammer core using that same kernel |
| 22:16.54 | tweakism | NeoIce: boot into your old kernel, and run sudo update-initramfs -k <broken kernel's version> -u |
| 22:17.02 | NeoIce | tweakism: supposedly, apt will do all that stuff |
| 22:17.18 | tweakism | NeoIce: Supposedly. I find mine doesn't seem to run update-initramfs when I aptitude install a kernel image. |
| 22:17.31 | tweakism | update-initramfs is the debian tool. |
| 22:17.45 | elik_ | How can I pass a module some argument so it is properly loaded at startup |
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| 22:20.01 | guyver | hey all |
| 22:20.10 | guyver | How do you restart ssh in Debian? |
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| 22:20.37 | tweakism | sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart |
| 22:20.39 | NeoIce | guyver: invoke-rc.d ssh restart |
| 22:20.39 | et | /etc/init.d/ssh restart - like with almost anything? |
| 22:20.42 | NeoIce | or that :D |
| 22:21.25 | guyver | it says "/etc/init.d/ssh not found |
| 22:21.36 | tweakism | guyver: do you have sshd installed? |
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| 22:22.05 | snewp | tweakism: isn't it possible to start all init script using rcconf? Done it but still it is saying read-only file system. Did not modify anything on the init scripts |
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| 22:24.29 | guyver | uh |
| 22:24.33 | guyver | let me check |
| 22:24.37 | guyver | sorry for the late rsponse |
| 22:25.28 | tweakism | guyver: dpkg -l | grep openssh-server |
| 22:26.08 | guyver | no gonnainstall it now |
| 22:26.29 | guyver | thanks. |
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| 22:27.43 | kenjy | its lenny aproach to become stable? |
| 22:30.02 | antgel | i have a couple of distributions (one being debian, naturally on the same hard disk, to dual-boot. problem is when i install a new kernel on one of the two, grub doesn't get updated. what's the best way to deal with this scenario? put /boot on a separate partition? |
| 22:30.52 | antgel | what i want is to be able to switch the machine on, and boot into either distro from the grub menu, AND when i install a kernel in either distro, to have it installed in the grub menu |
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| 22:35.08 | jester45 | antgel, yes /boot on a 2nd partition would help, might not solve the auto magic kernel list but at least you could mount just the kernels and work from there |
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| 22:40.30 | antgel | jester45: thanks. i can see that /boot on a second partition would help, i can have my kernels and grub menu there. only issue then, is when i run update-grub from one of the distros - it will pick the wrong root partition. i'll have a look in the comments in menu.lst, to see if there's anything to help. manpage for update-grub doesn't have any options to over-ride menu.lst. i'm just surprised there's not a documented way of doing th |
| 22:41.32 | Avernos | what is the name of the package that you can have dynamic ip and automatically sends the new ip to the dns server ? i know in ubuntu is called noip, but i dunno if is on the repositories of debian |
| 22:41.44 | Tramp | antgel: well, your grub will "belong" to one distro. So trying to magically modify its settings from the "other" distro sounds like a bad idea. |
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| 22:42.10 | NeoIce | avernos: there's several packages that do dynamic DNS updates |
| 22:42.29 | Avernos | cool |
| 22:42.30 | antgel | from menu.lst... |
| 22:42.31 | antgel | ## If you want special options for specific kernels use kopt_x_y_z |
| 22:42.32 | DawnLight | how does one input characters in X for which he knows the decimal value? |
| 22:42.33 | antgel | ## where x.y.z is kernel version. Minor versions can be omitted. |
| 22:42.36 | antgel | grr |
| 22:42.52 | antgel | DawnLight: bad timing between my two-line paste |
| 22:42.54 | Avernos | can u give me a pointer? names or if you know a easy one... |
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| 22:43.29 | antgel | Tramp: what do you mean my grub will "belong" to one distro? it's just a bootloader. |
| 22:43.30 | NeoIce | averons: I use inadyn, but I'd read up. noip might be there or have some specific feature(s) you need |
| 22:43.32 | DawnLight | i won't do that again |
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| 22:44.06 | jester45 | Avernos, ddclient supports a bunch of sites |
| 22:44.11 | Tramp | antgel: yes, but you will use a grub package from one of the distros you use for your installation in /boot |
| 22:44.14 | Avernos | i`ve never used noip or other program like that |
| 22:44.30 | Avernos | im trying to set up a server at home.. im quite lost about this.. |
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| 22:44.50 | Avernos | oki, thanks jester45 |
| 22:44.52 | antgel | what about installing grub in the start of the second distro's partition? i've never installed it in a partition before but i've heard it can be done, never understood the point |
| 22:44.52 | antgel | DawnLight: you weren't to know :) |
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| 22:45.34 | antgel | Tramp: true. |
| 22:45.40 | jester45 | antgel, so you dont write over the mbr |
| 22:46.13 | jester45 | grub can be the 2nd bootloader... as in how grub can boot ntbl |
| 22:46.36 | Tramp | antgel: you install grub from distro A wherever you want (and take care, that distro B does not install/activate a bootloader at all). But however, distro B will probably not know, how to modify distro A's menu.lst |
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| 22:47.00 | antgel | Tramp: well indeed, that's the problem i need to hack around :) |
| 22:47.02 | NeoIce | so I just ran grub-install but I'm still booting lilo. |
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| 22:47.43 | Tramp | antgel: so whatever you do, you have to "script" something in distro B (maybe using existing tools/hooks of this distro) to modify A's menu.lst whenever you update B's kernel |
| 22:48.18 | antgel | jester45: so hold on, why don't i install debian grub in the MBR, then install the second distro's grub at the start of the second of that distro's partition, and load that grub from debian's grub? would that work? |
| 22:49.13 | jester45 | yes but that would increase the boot time |
| 22:50.03 | Overand | not much |
| 22:50.19 | antgel | jester45: i don't GAF about that, what, an extra keypress? that's cool with me |
| 22:50.23 | Tramp | ah, indeed. Having an entry to chainload the other grub from the first should work. |
| 22:50.24 | NeoIce | speaking of partition bootloaders, is there a way to remove one? |
| 22:50.39 | NeoIce | I have on in /dev/sda and /dev/sda3 and rEFIt displays both. |
| 22:51.11 | antgel | only thing is that distro 2 is already installed - if i install grub at the start of the partition will it over-write data? |
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| 22:52.07 | Agiofws | whats good linux webcamera client ? |
| 22:53.08 | Agiofws | does anyone have an ASUS f3sa series lapTOP ? pls msg me ? |
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| 22:54.23 | allos_nerelin | <allos_nerelin> libtcl8.5 |
| 22:54.23 | allos_nerelin | <dpkg> no idea, allos_nerelin |
| 22:54.24 | allos_nerelin | =\ |
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| 22:54.40 | allos_nerelin | ./eggdrop: error while loading shared libraries: libtcl8.5.so: cannot open share d object file: No such file or directory |
| 22:54.42 | allos_nerelin | =\\\ |
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| 22:55.54 | NeoIce | antgel: I think there's a way to writeover the bootrecord of the partition |
| 22:56.13 | NeoIce | its dangerous to write like that htough |
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| 22:56.33 | antgel | NeoIce: but that's what i mean. does a partition have a "boot record"? |
| 22:57.21 | NeoIce | antgel: I'd gather so, because my computer is showing Linux on "hard disk" and "partition 3" |
| 22:58.26 | NeoIce | I'm using rEFIt, which is an EFI-based loader that can determine whats bootable and whats not |
| 22:59.52 | antgel | NeoIce: hmm, i'm not convinced. my partition contains a filesystem, and that filesystem starts at the start of the partition. or does it? *shrug* |
| 23:00.19 | NeoIce | antgel: well, I'm trying to figure that out for myself, so I'll get back to you |
| 23:00.28 | antgel | i could always just try it, i'm not really bothered if my install of distro 2 goes pear-shaped, it's just for demo purposes |
| 23:00.39 | NeoIce | I could have SWORN I'd seen a dd command to overwrite the first 512k or so to clear a bootrecord |
| 23:01.13 | NeoIce | it could be GPT specific |
| 23:01.20 | antgel | GPT? |
| 23:01.41 | NeoIce | GUID partition table |
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| 23:02.01 | NeoIce | EFI is to BIOS as GPT is to MBR |
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| 23:02.13 | NeoIce | GPT also has a legacy MBR |
| 23:02.20 | pothibo__ | does Debian Etch has the kernel 2.6.24 available ? or should I upgrade to lenny ? |
| 23:02.34 | NeoIce | pothibo__: there's the etchnhalf kernel |
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| 23:03.28 | pothibo__ | NeoIce: what would you recommand ? moving to lenny or staying with Etch.. This server is not production.. home router for 3 ppl.. not much on it |
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| 23:04.12 | NeoIce | pothibo__: frankly, for my servers, I'm sticking with JUST etch, but thats a personal choice |
| 23:04.38 | NeoIce | I dont have a problem with lenny, its just not the stable release so hardware isnt confirmed working |
| 23:04.46 | NeoIce | check the etchnhalf release notes |
| 23:04.53 | pothibo__ | NeoIce: I need to compile a kernel module for the rt2x00 next-generation driver and I heard that 2.6.24 has it |
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| 23:05.24 | NeoIce | pothibo__: double check. I just found out I need to use .25 |
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| 23:05.55 | NeoIce | you can always roll the kernel back if it doesnt work, especially with etchnhalf I think |
| 23:06.16 | NeoIce | etchnhalf uses the etch repositiories :D |
| 23:06.43 | pothibo__ | ok |
| 23:06.46 | pothibo__ | I'll check this one out |
| 23:06.52 | pothibo__ | less badnwith use is always good |
| 23:07.03 | antgel | !tell pothibo__ about pdo |
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| 23:13.41 | enouf | antgel: msdos style partitions indeed have a boot sector, sometimes more than 1 sector |
| 23:13.50 | magellanino | suca |
| 23:14.42 | enouf | antgel: hexdump -C /dev/hda1 | less (for ex) |
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| 23:15.51 | hml | rocks cluster linux is redhat based; if i want to do clustering with a debian/ubuntu based distro; what shoul.d i use? |
| 23:16.57 | pothibo__ | NeoIce: well I installed the package but I think this is more of a dist-upgrade rigght > |
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| 23:19.04 | NeoIce | pothibo__: its a kernel upgrade. supposedly, apt should take care of everything, but you might need to change your bootloader config to add the entry |
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| 23:19.33 | pothibo__ | NeoIce: okay.. will do then |
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| 23:21.30 | linuxjones51 | i dont know if anyone will be able to help with this or not, i dont know if its the driver or something else, but i have a tv tuner card that gives me this in dmesg |
| 23:21.34 | linuxjones51 | http://pastebin.ca/1187912 |
| 23:21.49 | enouf | !tell pothibo__ -about backports.org |
| 23:22.16 | drwahl | i have been reading up about cfengine and it seems as though 'apt' or 'aptitude' handles pretty much everything that cfengine would do. is that an accurate assesment, or would there still be reason to use cfengine in a debian system? |
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| 23:26.25 | NeoIce | does anyone know how to remove a partition boot record? |
| 23:26.33 | pothibo__ | No. It's definitly not working I installed the package, did update-grub as root and it's not working |
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| 23:27.20 | korupted | hey guys i need some help i get this error tmw: error while loading shared libraries: libguichan_sdl-0.8.1.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. Now i did a ldconfig and still the same error, I know guichan is installed in /usr/local/lib but inside /etc/ld.so.conf. It only shows /usr/lib and /usr/lib/qt3, I manually added /usr/local/lib followed by the sudo terminal command ldconfig and i get the same e |
| 23:27.20 | korupted | rror? |
| 23:27.52 | enouf | pothibo__: http://packages.debian.org/etch/linux-image-2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 <- you installed that? dpkg -i file.deb? |
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| 23:28.25 | enouf | are you using i386? amd64? |
| 23:28.42 | korupted | who? |
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| 23:29.29 | korupted | im using i386 |
| 23:29.53 | enouf | not you - but you should look in /etc/ld.so.* |
| 23:30.09 | korupted | i did |
| 23:30.21 | korupted | i edited the file mentioned above |
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| 23:30.57 | enouf | wrong file - unless you're on etch? |
| 23:31.16 | korupted | aww okay thank you |
| 23:31.23 | superrad | i need to reformat my hdd to change the partitions, could I just copy my debian install to a backup drive by doing sudo cp -a /*location of root folder* /*location of backupdrive* from a live cd then reformat then copy it back to the new partition in the same way then edit fstab and grub? |
| 23:31.55 | pothibo__ | enouf: yeah I installed that.. |
| 23:32.12 | enouf | !info partimage |
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| 23:32.22 | pothibo__ | what is dpkg -i file.deb ? never used that |
| 23:32.26 | sephiro | hola |
| 23:32.33 | NeoIce | up |
| 23:32.34 | dpkg | partimage: (backup partitions into a compressed image file), section admin, is optional. Version: 0.6.7-1 (sid), Packaged size: 274 kB, Installed size: 952 kB |
| 23:32.38 | enouf | pothibo__: direct install man dpkg |
| 23:32.43 | pothibo__ | ok |
| 23:32.44 | korupted | oh im stupid |
| 23:32.59 | korupted | i got it i typoed /user/local/lib |
| 23:33.14 | korupted | suppose to be /usr/local/lib thanks guys |
| 23:33.15 | enouf | heh |
| 23:33.17 | korupted | :P |
| 23:34.39 | korupted | yea it works now thanks again |
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| 23:35.59 | pothibo__ | enouf: I must be awfully idiot... but what do you want me to dpkg? /usr/src/linux-header-2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686/ has no deb file |
| 23:36.42 | enouf | pothibo__: ahh.. you grabbed the -header- pkg? |
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| 23:36.53 | enouf | not the linux-IMAGE-version ? |
| 23:37.19 | enouf | http://packages.debian.org/etch/linux-image-2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 <= you want that, NOT http://packages.debian.org/etch/linux-headers-2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 |
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| 23:37.36 | pothibo__ | enouf: well I thought both were dependency.. Grrrr. been up for 24 hours on this issue, I don't think straight |
| 23:37.50 | enouf | it's OK to also have -headers- |
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| 23:38.05 | enouf | but there's no kernel , nor initrd in it ;-) |
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| 23:38.19 | pothibo__ | yeah I thought by installing 1 the other would install as a dependency |
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| 23:38.57 | antgel | enouf: this was an ext3 partition. anyway, i tried it, and i'll fsck it later, see what happens |
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| 23:39.30 | enouf | antgel: MS-DOS Style partition tables are what's used in most PCs |
| 23:39.39 | enouf | antgel: doesn;t matter the FStype |
| 23:40.31 | enouf | antgel: see ./fs/partitions/Kconfig |
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| 23:40.56 | pothibo__ | enouf: ty it's working now |
| 23:41.13 | enouf | pothibo__: np |
| 23:41.22 | enouf | antgel: http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.26.3/fs/partitions/Kconfig online version ;-) |
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| 23:42.18 | Speereet | Hello. I'm kind of trapped here: building etch stable openafs-modules-source fails, thus, following this report, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=494633, I installed the backports version. Yet now, I get another problem, which is described here: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=489613. Still, there's no solution. This renders OpenAFS completely unusable to me. What shall I do? |
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| 23:45.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | Speereet, so is that an upstream-bug? |
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| 23:46.08 | Speereet | CutMeOwnThroat: What is an upstream-bug? |
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| 23:46.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | one that is not caused by debian patches/packanging, but is in the program (or module in this case) itself |
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| 23:48.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | seems to be... |
| 23:48.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | I dunno... don't see you have much options |
| 23:48.16 | Speereet | CutMeOwnThroat: Ooh⦠Might be. I don't know, to be honest, I'm still introducing my self to debian. |
| 23:48.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | you could try to just install the module from where it originally came and see... |
| 23:49.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | that may be not as neat as a package and possibly breaks sometime in the future... but if it helps |
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| 23:52.29 | Speereet | Ouch⦠I solved (didn't, actually) the problem: I crossed my fingers (the _production_ machine is 35km away, so if anything went wrongâ¦), rebooted the machine, and tada! openafs module loads like a charm. |
| 23:53.35 | Speereet | Thanks for your effort, and for telling me on what's an upstream bug, CutMeOwnThroat. By the way, where can one learn all that stuff, namely nomenclature? |
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| 23:55.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm... reading along here probably helps :)\ |
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| 23:55.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | and... do you know about the bot in this channel? A load of questions can be answered by it ... probably faster than by google |
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| 23:56.20 | Dukkan | how to start x autmatically, without command 'startx' |
| 23:56.22 | Dukkan | ? |
| 23:56.32 | hatter | how do i stop gnome from opening a new window every time you click on a folder ? |
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| 23:56.50 | Dukkan | on kde |
| 23:56.59 | hatter | Dukkan, use gdm or kdm |
| 23:56.59 | wd_ | just installed gspca-modules-2.6-686 for my logictech webcam, tried to load it modprobe gspca failed no such file, where is file so i can get correct name? |
| 23:57.21 | Dukkan | hatter, kdm |
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| 23:58.46 | hatter | Dukkan, run kdm at boot time |
| 23:58.56 | wd_ | sorry where does gspca-modules-2.6-686 - install it's files or driver in 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 |
| 23:59.12 | Dukkan | hatter, ok |
| 23:59.18 | Dukkan | thank you |
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| 23:59.31 | hatter | i see the answer to the opening a new window, edit -> preferences -> behaviour -> always open in browser window |
