| 00:00.28 | laolin_ | vote Obama |
| 00:00.56 | jayeola | hilary stole my grub config! |
| 00:01.12 | laolin_ | vote Obama |
| 00:01.16 | laolin_ | yes |
| 00:01.23 | amphi | who? |
| 00:01.56 | beardy | Take it to #politics or be quiet. |
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| 00:11.49 | laolin_ | http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=gG_ORk3EFnU |
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| 00:22.21 | DynV | I have an important partition that's almost full and another one which I almost never use which has a lot of valuable space, is there a way to take some of the less used WITHOUT destroying what's on the first one ? |
| 00:22.30 | Johnramb00 | can someone pls tell me which packages to install for mysql? |
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| 00:23.14 | FreakGuard | Johnramb00, apt-cache search mysql |
| 00:23.43 | Johnramb00 | I want to install joomla. but he says no mysql installed.... . but it is :( |
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| 00:25.52 | DynV | Johnramb00: did you try it ? making a db and a table in it ? |
| 00:26.19 | Johnramb00 | that work fine |
| 00:26.45 | DynV | Johnramb00: does you web server (apache?) work ? |
| 00:27.01 | Johnramb00 | Yes. |
| 00:27.11 | DynV | Johnramb00: and PHP ? |
| 00:27.28 | Johnramb00 | DynV, i see also the joomla backend :(. |
| 00:27.43 | Johnramb00 | But then it says: Sorry, no mysql support found :( |
| 00:28.26 | DynV | Johnramb00: did you configure the CMS ? |
| 00:29.14 | DynV | in drupal, there's the setting file /var/www/sites/default/settings.php |
| 00:29.18 | Johnramb00 | Not already. Because the installation does not run |
| 00:30.11 | DynV | Johnramb00: read joomla FAQ or forum to see how to configure it but logically it should spit something something (ugly) but something ... |
| 00:31.04 | Johnramb00 | :) Okay, thank you DynV |
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| 00:33.18 | Johnramb00 | No |
| 00:33.34 | Johnramb00 | What is it good for? |
| 00:33.53 | rubyat | connections from other aps |
| 00:34.11 | et | sings "war - huh! - was it it good for, absolutely nothing" |
| 00:34.22 | Johnramb00 | :D |
| 00:34.41 | Johnramb00 | Eddie Grant? |
| 00:34.51 | jayeola | "say it again!" |
| 00:35.18 | Orbixx | We're gonna rock down to... |
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| 00:36.49 | Johnramb00 | I got another prob...now... i just tried to install phpmyadmin |
| 00:37.15 | Johnramb00 | I've done the link "ln -s /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf /etc/apache2/conf.d" |
| 00:37.38 | Johnramb00 | And I restarted apache2 Now I can't open a page :(. |
| 00:37.54 | Johnramb00 | The maine adress opens...a php file :( |
| 00:38.42 | Orbixx | I've never installed phpmyadmin, but to me, making a symbolic link from that, to that, seems to be a strange thing to do. |
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| 00:39.40 | karmatronic | hi guys |
| 00:40.13 | Johnramb00 | How do i unlink it again? |
| 00:40.21 | Orbixx | rm it |
| 00:42.17 | jayeola | http://www.debianadmin.com/install-wordpress-in-debian-etch.html << use this as a guide for php and mysql |
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| 00:53.13 | peter_12 | why is a Debian package (a .deb file) an "ar" of two tarballs? Why not just one tarball? |
| 00:54.01 | cast | whats in each tarball? maybe some segregation was desired |
| 00:54.34 | peter_12 | I'm curious what the desire was |
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| 00:56.49 | drbean | How would I go looking for a simple sound editor that I was using in sarge, but can't seem to find among the etch sound packages? |
| 00:57.08 | drbean | I can't recall the name, but might if I saw it again. |
| 00:58.04 | amphi | audacity? |
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| 00:58.17 | drbean | I remember it was written in perl. And only had a text interface. |
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| 00:58.48 | drbean | Isn't audacity is in etch, I think. with a GUI |
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| 01:01.18 | drbean | I am resigned to scrolling thru the 80 pages of sound packages. (Now 35) |
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| 01:03.51 | Zharf | mmh |
| 01:04.09 | Zharf | SDL sounds don't work with OSS anymore :o (yes, I have libsdl1.2debian-oss installed) |
| 01:04.12 | MXIIA | What is considered the best FTP server? |
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| 01:13.55 | null | Question: Is it possible to start downloading a file from the 66% completion mark and combine it with another copy which has, say, 70% completion? wget? |
| 01:15.16 | enouf | dialup woes? |
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| 01:16.16 | null | enouf: No, Panera will close at 90% completion of the file. So I need to start downloading it from a second laptop as well. |
| 01:16.30 | cr3 | how should I decide whether files should go under /var/lib/<my_program> or /var/cache/<my_program>? |
| 01:16.45 | enouf | what? |
| 01:16.53 | null | enouf: I NEED MORE TIME |
| 01:17.04 | null | We've got two laptops and not enough time. |
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| 01:17.07 | enouf | you need a real ISP |
| 01:17.38 | null | enouf: But I am at PANERA BREAD, THEY HAVE FOOD. |
| 01:17.47 | enouf | ... |
| 01:17.51 | null | Any idea? |
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| 01:18.42 | enouf | all i know is 36% left of A , and 30% left for B still leaves the same 30% missing from BOTH |
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| 01:20.22 | enouf | will SOMEONE please make a aplay 32band EQUALIZER! .. thanks |
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| 01:20.49 | enouf | (i'll settle for an mplayer one) |
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| 01:22.23 | enouf | ok ..ok, .. a 16band one? |
| 01:22.33 | enouf | would you belive |
| 01:22.54 | enouf | "would you believe ... once around the tub?" </Get Smart> O_o |
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| 01:26.37 | enouf | drbean: editor? or convertor? sox? |
| 01:27.31 | enouf | (well, i guess it can edit too, in some sort of the sense) |
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| 01:29.12 | Theoden | http://71.198.29.177/images1/Debian-Lenny.png |
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| 01:31.59 | drbean | enouf: An extractor of (eg 3-minute) segments from a longer mp3 file. |
| 01:33.27 | enouf | i think sox can do that, not certain, but mencoder/mplayer can as well .. was it something like mpeg321? |
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| 01:36.15 | drbean | Perhaps I should start browsing sarge repositories. I liked the program because it was small. I guess it is irrational to want to find the same progam again. |
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| 01:54.26 | cast | would it be bad to put the whole of /etc/ under revision control |
| 01:54.40 | enouf | it's prolly there - there's just so many of them |
| 01:55.16 | enouf | dpkg does a decent job of that already ;-) |
| 01:55.16 | dpkg | enouf: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
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| 01:57.59 | DramaLlama | Can someone point me in the direction to fix my screen resolution? Just installed Ubuntu, have some previous experience, but it has been a long time |
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| 02:03.56 | MariachiAC | hello. I've installed Debian from a net isntall iso. I know I need to update the sorce.list file in/etc/apt/sorces.lost. However, I'm not sure where to get the addresses for unstable or what I shoudl put. |
| 02:07.06 | peter_12 | cr3: I think it goes under /var/lib if you want to back it up and under /var/cache if you don't (i.e. the program can recreate it if it is not there) |
| 02:07.09 | Tramp | !tell MariachiAC about sources.list |
| 02:07.42 | cr3 | peter_12: thanks |
| 02:07.44 | peter_12 | cr3: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ |
| 02:07.51 | peter_12 | get the pdf |
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| 02:09.18 | plb1 | I'm setting up a router and everything works great, except the router itself is using the external interface to resolve internal names. I am using resolvconf resolv.conf only has 127.0.0.1 as a nameserver. I placed a dns-nameservers line with the internal IP address but it doesn't seem to want to use the locally running bind9 |
| 02:09.30 | backtracker | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:12.31 | Tramp | plb1: how exactly does your /etc/resolv.conf look? |
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| 02:12.55 | plb1 | nameserver 127.0.0.1 |
| 02:12.55 | plb1 | search cs.tamu.edu yisrael.csdl.tamu.edu |
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| 02:13.32 | Tramp | plb1: ok. And you have a bind running locally, listening on loopback, right? |
| 02:13.38 | PiousMinion | Anyone know how I can figure out which thermal zones are which on my laptop? |
| 02:14.21 | plb1 | tramp: I know bind is listening to the internal adaptor, not sure about loopback, how do I determine that? |
| 02:14.30 | JordiGH | Is there a way to monitor hardware sensors (temperature) without X? |
| 02:15.06 | Tramp | plb1: lsof -niudp:53 |
| 02:15.09 | plb1 | tramp: I don't think bind is listening to loopback "nslookup shimon - localhost" gets a REFUSED |
| 02:15.28 | JordiGH | Sorry, found it. mbmon |
| 02:16.49 | Tramp | plb1: run the command, I just gave. Additionally: grep listen /etc/bind/named.conf.options |
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| 02:18.03 | plb1 | ugh.. its not checking external dns now :-P and I needed to install lsof... hold on |
| 02:18.04 | Benzi | can someone help me get sound working? |
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| 02:18.22 | Benzi | I installed a TV tuner card, and then alsa stopped working |
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| 02:18.48 | Benzi | I tried alsaconf, and selected the sound card I wanted to use (instead of the TV tuner sound capture hardware), but it still didn't work |
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| 02:19.19 | Ariel_Calzada | hi my xev don't recognize my multimedia key QUICKPLAY and DVD i have HP DV2000 any idea? |
| 02:19.54 | plb1 | ugh... and I just killed my external network connection... well... don't really want to drive to the server room to fix it.. so I'll have to try again later |
| 02:20.18 | PiousMinion | Ariel_Calzada: what is an "xev" ? |
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| 02:20.47 | enouf | sononma bitch .. haha @ man locatedb and /usr/lib/locate/frcode |
| 02:21.04 | Ariel_Calzada | PiousMinion: xev is a command that outputs keycode scan |
| 02:21.17 | Ariel_Calzada | PiousMinion: i need it for xbindkeys |
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| 02:21.23 | Tramp | plb1: what did you do? |
| 02:21.49 | enouf | Ariel_Calzada: http://tuxmobil.org/Mobile-Guide.db/mobile-guide-p2c1s8-ext-keys.html |
| 02:21.55 | enouf | Ariel_Calzada: /msg dpkg laptop |
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| 02:22.30 | cast | there's a few one time password options, they seem to not have had any work on them in recent times [1-3 years], any suggestions on what one i should go with? i was thinking of going with opie-* |
| 02:22.43 | MXIIA | how can I CHMOD /var/www |
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| 02:23.27 | cast | MXIIA: with chmod |
| 02:24.16 | MXIIA | ok... and that will chmod all subdirectories as well? |
| 02:24.38 | cast | no, but chmod -R will |
| 02:24.45 | enouf | Benzi: maybe folks in #v4l channels can help but also poke around in http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/ |
| 02:24.56 | Benzi | thanks enouf |
| 02:25.03 | MXIIA | Ok so /chmod -r XXX /var/www ? |
| 02:25.06 | enouf | Benzi: do you have alsa-oss pkg installed? |
| 02:25.18 | Benzi | yep |
| 02:25.29 | enouf | Benzi: and lshal | grep device_file | grep dsp shows no dsp/adsp ? |
| 02:25.39 | enouf | !soundcheck |
| 02:25.40 | dpkg | Pff pff, is this thing on? cat /vmlinuz > /dev/dsp ...use Ctrl-C to stop it after a few seconds. If it doesn't fail, you either have OSS or alsa with OSS emulation working. |
| 02:25.50 | Benzi | nope, that grep returns nothing |
| 02:25.55 | enouf | Benzi: tried alsamixer settings? .. |
| 02:25.57 | enouf | ok |
| 02:26.20 | enouf | linux.device_file = /dev/dsp (string) oss.device_file = /dev/dsp (string) linux.device_file = /dev/adsp (string) oss.device_file = /dev/adsp (string) |
| 02:26.36 | enouf | is what i have from that grep |
| 02:27.03 | enouf | Benzi: and /msg dpkg alsa checklist |
| 02:27.24 | Benzi | I've seen that before |
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| 02:28.38 | enouf | Benzi: funny stuff in dmesg? compare to older ones in /var/log/dmesg* |
| 02:29.26 | Benzi | I've had this problem for a few weeks, so I don't have an old enough dmesg saved |
| 02:29.34 | enouf | Benzi: actually compare /var/log/dmesg to the other ones there, use zless to view .gz files |
| 02:29.47 | enouf | doh! |
| 02:30.41 | Benzi | I grep'd my current dmesg file for sound, alsa, snd, oss, and dsp; none of them returned anything |
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| 02:30.59 | MXIIA | how can I change my password (no GUI) |
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| 02:33.00 | linuxguy | Hi thee.....any ideas when lenny might be ready for releaseee? |
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| 02:35.04 | linuxguy | netsplit? |
| 02:36.21 | MXIIA | Should I be able to log in as root on an FTP client? |
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| 02:36.34 | zu22 | hey guys, if i split screen with "/win new" , what can i type to unsplit and go back to regular screen? |
| 02:36.56 | postgres | hopefully no, but daemons can do anything they're programmed to do, and you can get source |
| 02:37.14 | postgres | do you want to log in as root? |
| 02:37.22 | MXIIA | on the server i am in as root |
| 02:37.29 | MXIIA | but I cannot on FTP (another computer) |
| 02:37.48 | postgres | well |
| 02:38.11 | postgres | I can tell you that it's not a great idea... but you -can- do what you want |
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| 02:38.40 | postgres | it might take some doing, and you might consider workarounds as well |
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| 02:39.07 | MXIIA | Well I really just want to be able to edit /var/www |
| 02:39.10 | postgres | at the moment we can't consider either, you'd have to get pretty detailed as to what you want |
| 02:39.12 | MXIIA | can I just chmod it ? |
| 02:39.35 | postgres | what do you get from... |
| 02:39.42 | postgres | ls -ld /var/www |
| 02:39.47 | Ariel_Calzada | enouf: HP Pavilion DV2125 LA |
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| 02:40.02 | MXIIA | I'll go check hold on |
| 02:40.16 | postgres | it should be a line |
| 02:40.23 | Ariel_Calzada | enouf: the quickplay and DVD buttons don't output any scancode with xev |
| 02:40.27 | postgres | if it's more, I told you something wrong |
| 02:40.32 | PhrkOnLsh | does anyone ahve an idea what font is used here: http://nelchael81.deviantart.com/art/Debian-Wine-65226512 ? |
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| 02:40.42 | PhrkOnLsh | I want to play with it but my system lacks a similar font |
| 02:40.49 | enouf | !ketmap |
| 02:40.52 | enouf | !keymap |
| 02:40.52 | dpkg | To change your console keymap, run "dpkg-reconfigure console-data". To change your X keymap, read "man xmodmap", or ask me about <set up x> or <drxx> or use kcontrol, gnome-control-center or similar. For setting up X keymaps, also check out xkeycaps and xev, or ask me about <multimedia keys>. In console you can also use "loadkeys" for once-only/temporary adjustments. |
| 02:40.56 | MXIIA | drwxr-xr-x |
| 02:41.10 | ftoledo | hi all, any http proxy to recomnend? light and minimal (non squid) |
| 02:41.13 | postgres | ok, and the next three fields? |
| 02:41.28 | postgres | should be a number, a string, a string |
| 02:41.34 | MXIIA | k |
| 02:41.34 | MXIIA | brb |
| 02:41.37 | postgres | need the two strings |
| 02:42.09 | MXIIA | root root 4096 |
| 02:42.13 | MXIIA | sorry the server is in another room |
| 02:42.17 | postgres | oh so it is root |
| 02:42.19 | postgres | hmm |
| 02:42.37 | MXIIA | yes, I am logged in as root on the server , but cannot send files via FTP as a user |
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| 02:42.49 | postgres | and the dir is also owned by root |
| 02:42.58 | MXIIA | yes |
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| 02:43.16 | postgres | and it's also in the root group, these things are strange... |
| 02:43.37 | MXIIA | How can I add a user to the root group? |
| 02:43.38 | postgres | I thought it should be owned and in the group named by www-data |
| 02:43.59 | postgres | that's easy enough... but one sec, why is that root |
| 02:44.13 | MXIIA | I'm not sure... the server was set up a few hours ago... |
| 02:44.53 | postgres | someone clue me in here... |
| 02:45.05 | MXIIA | :/ |
| 02:45.07 | postgres | can you ssh in? |
| 02:45.26 | postgres | seems you're walking back n forth, yes? |
| 02:46.01 | coll | any of you guys know if there is a zenoss package for debian? via apt-get. |
| 02:46.06 | postgres | is the server within a few feet of you? or hundreds of miles away? |
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| 02:46.50 | postgres | coll, the dpkg bot has a db you can play with by /msg |
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| 02:47.04 | postgres | coll, try /msg dpkg find zenoss |
| 02:47.12 | postgres | or /msg dpkg help |
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| 02:47.28 | postgres | or both at once! |
| 02:47.36 | MXIIA | How do I ssh? |
| 02:47.44 | MXIIA | YEs, the server is in another room |
| 02:47.49 | postgres | oh ok |
| 02:47.59 | postgres | and the machine you're on now, |
| 02:48.08 | MXIIA | Is my main computer |
| 02:48.09 | postgres | iis it a linux box? |
| 02:48.13 | MXIIA | yes |
| 02:48.13 | coll | postgres, thanks |
| 02:48.13 | MXIIA | Ubuntu |
| 02:48.40 | Speereet | Hello. I'm running debian stable, and I want to update OpenOffice.org from backports. In aptitude, though, there appears the following version: 1:2.4.1-3~bpo40+1. What does "1:" mean? |
| 02:48.41 | postgres | ok, try ssh someuser@the.server.ip |
| 02:48.56 | MXIIA | in terminal? |
| 02:49.03 | coll | dpkg is crazy |
| 02:49.03 | dpkg | parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, coll |
| 02:49.12 | coll | indeed |
| 02:49.30 | postgres | and evidently self-aware |
| 02:49.36 | coll | heh |
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| 02:49.57 | postgres | dpkg: are you a sicco? |
| 02:49.58 | MXIIA | Ok, I am connected to the server... now what |
| 02:50.00 | dpkg | postgres: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
| 02:51.29 | postgres | now you don't have to walk back n forth, and you can also do the cut n paste thing |
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| 02:51.53 | postgres | if you want you can install this script on your main box and/or on the server: |
| 02:52.00 | postgres | !pastebin pipe |
| 02:52.00 | dpkg | Download http://pastebin.ca/download/paste2pastebin.pl and install libwww-mechanize-perl. Then pipe your output to perl paste2pastebin.pl. You can also "aptitude install pastebinit" if you are on lenny/sid. |
| 02:52.20 | wols_ | !tell coll about search |
| 02:52.33 | MXIIA | how do I add a user to the root group? |
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| 02:52.52 | postgres | adduser <user> root |
| 02:53.07 | postgres | but you might want to find a different way... |
| 02:53.10 | coll | does apt-file search <pkg> look into your system or repository? |
| 02:53.19 | postgres | why is /var/www not owned by www-data? |
| 02:53.24 | wols_ | coll: repo |
| 02:53.30 | postgres | anyone :) |
| 02:53.30 | coll | thanks |
| 02:53.39 | wols_ | postgres: cause it would be a stupid security leak if it did |
| 02:53.50 | postgres | hmm, ok |
| 02:54.07 | postgres | you mean people could get in thru the web server |
| 02:54.09 | wols_ | if so, php scripts running on the webserver could change and create any file there |
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| 02:54.16 | MXIIA | Well I added "mxiia" as root and I still can't upload files |
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| 02:54.28 | wols_ | MXIIA: added where? |
| 02:54.42 | MXIIA | to the root group |
| 02:54.43 | postgres | MXIIA: what does groups say |
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| 02:54.56 | wols_ | MXIIA: learn how permissions work then |
| 02:55.00 | MXIIA | only root |
| 02:55.04 | postgres | I'm tellin ya, that's not the greatest of ideas... |
| 02:55.05 | wols_ | !wayttd MXIIA |
| 02:55.05 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, MXIIA? |
| 02:55.23 | MXIIA | I am trying to upload files to /var/www |
| 02:55.24 | postgres | he wants to edit the files there by ftp |
| 02:55.32 | MXIIA | yes |
| 02:55.37 | wols_ | then chown the directory to another user. any but www-data |
| 02:55.45 | MXIIA | ok |
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| 02:56.00 | postgres | wols_ and all its content? |
| 02:56.14 | postgres | also should he setgid the dir? |
| 02:56.19 | wols_ | no |
| 02:56.29 | MXIIA | chown user /var/www ? |
| 02:56.34 | wols_ | MXIIA: no |
| 02:56.40 | MXIIA | then what? |
| 02:57.46 | coll | cacti one, but not zenoss yet. |
| 02:58.32 | MXIIA | Ok, I got the files there.. .now how can I prevent the redirect to /apache2_default/ do I have to delete that? |
| 02:59.08 | postgres | MXIIA: depending on how important (as tradeoff-ed with how experimental) the server is, you can either do anything you want, or anything the machine owner wants... but if it is important and if it should be live -right now- because it has been live and serving for at least a month, you need to (1) be very careful what you do, and (2) learn how to be careful |
| 02:59.21 | \amethyst | MXIIA: edit /etc/apache2/sites-available/default to get rid of the redirect |
| 02:59.45 | postgres | if you're just in development, you can be looser, and use the server itself as opportunity to learn what you need to |
| 03:00.16 | postgres | so might as well ask: is that server in production right now? |
| 03:00.19 | \amethyst | MXIIA: or better yet make a copy of that file in the same directory (named, for example, 'mysite'), then a2dissite default; a2ensite mysite |
| 03:00.21 | MXIIA | Yea, I own the server, I guess you could say I am using it for testing/learning |
| 03:00.22 | postgres | serving thousands? |
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| 03:00.45 | MXIIA | prolly just me |
| 03:00.57 | postgres | ok |
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| 03:01.50 | postgres | so one part of your situation is: you're not hired by a billion-dollar company and under the gun to middle management to get the server going RIGHT NOW |
| 03:02.01 | postgres | you're a bit freer than that |
| 03:02.17 | MXIIA | lol, yes |
| 03:03.03 | MXIIA | Wait, lets say I make a directory /var/www/mysite how would I make that default |
| 03:03.39 | postgres | he's talking about a2dissite and a2ensite, I have no idea for these commands. you should learn what they do |
| 03:03.58 | postgres | never heard of em before right now |
| 03:04.09 | MXIIA | I get "Site default disabled; run /etc/init.d/apache2 reload to fully disable. |
| 03:04.09 | MXIIA | This site does not exist! |
| 03:04.09 | MXIIA | " |
| 03:04.11 | \amethyst | postgres: they're debian-specific |
| 03:04.15 | postgres | oh ok |
| 03:04.29 | \amethyst | MXIIA: did you do a2ensite newsitename ? |
| 03:04.31 | postgres | MXIIA: is the server debian? |
| 03:04.45 | MXIIA | server is debian, I will try a2ensite now |
| 03:04.53 | MXIIA | is newsitename just teh directory? |
| 03:05.07 | \amethyst | MXIIA: it's the name of a configuration file in /etc/apache2/sites-available |
| 03:05.20 | postgres | will it make one? |
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| 03:05.30 | \amethyst | MXIIA: the idea is you make a copy of /etc/apache2/sites-available/default then do a2ensite on that copy |
| 03:05.35 | \amethyst | no, you have to make the copy yourself |
| 03:05.46 | MXIIA | Ok |
| 03:05.48 | \amethyst | then you can edit that copy you made to change the directories |
| 03:05.54 | MXIIA | I see |
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| 03:06.57 | \amethyst | in Debian there's also a2enmod and a2dismod for apache2 modules |
| 03:07.46 | MXIIA | Would making this line "RedirectMatch ^/$ /apache2-default/" to "/" work? |
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| 03:07.55 | \amethyst | MXIIA: just get rid of it altogether |
| 03:07.59 | MXIIA | Ok |
| 03:08.08 | \amethyst | MXIIA: if you changed it to / it would be an infinite loop |
| 03:08.20 | MXIIA | ok |
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| 03:10.45 | MXIIA | I got rid of that line and It still redirects to /apache2_default/ |
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| 03:11.10 | Benzi | heh |
| 03:11.12 | Benzi | hey enouf |
| 03:11.24 | Benzi | hey enouf, I'm a noob now |
| 03:11.39 | postgres | congratulations!!! |
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| 03:11.48 | Benzi | I updated my kernel from 2.6.22 to the debian binary 2.6.26 and now it works |
| 03:12.06 | enouf | Benzi: bonzai! :p |
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| 03:12.44 | \amethyst | MXIIA: you have to do /etc/init.d/apache2 reload |
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| 03:16.28 | MXIIA | I get "The requested url / was not found on this server" |
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| 03:18.05 | \amethyst | MXIIA: could you pastebin the site configuration? |
| 03:18.51 | MXIIA | the default file? |
| 03:18.51 | \amethyst | MXIIA: the copy you made and edited |
| 03:19.17 | \amethyst | MXIIA: wait, did you do a2ensite <copyname> yet? |
| 03:19.23 | MXIIA | I'm not sure how to edit it http://pastebin.com/m2a6d5de6 is the originalone |
| 03:19.27 | MXIIA | no I didn't |
| 03:19.35 | \amethyst | ah |
| 03:19.51 | postgres | do that, find out what it does, in either order |
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| 03:20.11 | MXIIA | how do I make a copy again :/ |
| 03:20.37 | \amethyst | MXIIA: cp /etc/apache2/sites-available/default /etc/apache2/sites-available/mysite |
| 03:20.47 | \amethyst | where 'mysite' is whatever you want to call it |
| 03:20.56 | \amethyst | then edit the copy and remove the RedirectMatch line |
| 03:21.20 | MXIIA | Ok |
| 03:21.30 | postgres | \amethyst I can follow along under etch? |
| 03:21.47 | \amethyst | postgres: as long as you're using apache2 |
| 03:21.47 | postgres | this would all (so far) be done as root? |
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| 03:22.00 | postgres | well I can be |
| 03:22.07 | MXIIA | The requested URL / was not found on this server. |
| 03:22.28 | postgres | ok let's see |
| 03:22.42 | \amethyst | MXIIA: did the a2ensite command succeed without an error message? |
| 03:23.00 | \amethyst | MXIIA: also, have you done /etc/init.d/apache2 reload yet? you have to do that after every configuration change |
| 03:23.01 | JazHambo4321 | When I hook up my new LCD screen with an HDMI cable, the screen remains blank during bootup and when I go to a console screen. Is there any way to fix this?? |
| 03:23.02 | MXIIA | I got "This site does not exist! |
| 03:23.02 | MXIIA | " |
| 03:23.14 | \amethyst | MXIIA: what did you name the copy? |
| 03:23.23 | MXIIA | mxiia |
| 03:23.28 | \amethyst | MXIIA: did you do a2ensite mxiia ? |
| 03:23.48 | MXIIA | yea |
| 03:23.58 | MXIIA | i reloaded |
| 03:24.02 | MXIIA | and now it works |
| 03:24.22 | postgres | and there now exists a file /etc/apache2/sites-available/mxiia too... |
| 03:24.26 | \amethyst | postgres: yes, all as root so far |
| 03:24.33 | postgres | ok |
| 03:24.34 | MXIIA | yes that file exists |
| 03:24.48 | PhrkOnLsh | what is the package one must install to give openoffice a spellchecker? |
| 03:24.51 | postgres | then the cp command worked (copied one file) |
| 03:25.01 | \amethyst | MXIIA: cool. For site-specific changes you'd edit that file now |
| 03:25.14 | kgoetz | PhrkOnLsh: your languages myspell package |
| 03:25.17 | kgoetz | then configure it |
| 03:25.19 | \amethyst | MXIIA: if you get into having virtual hosts, you can set up one file for each virtual host |
| 03:25.21 | kgoetz | s/it/oo.o |
| 03:26.08 | postgres | a virtual host is defined by the site domain name? |
| 03:26.20 | MXIIA | ok, i probably wont do that |
| 03:26.23 | kgoetz | MXIIA: incase its not been suggested yet, the apache logs might help you ... |
| 03:26.38 | MXIIA | ok |
| 03:26.41 | \amethyst | postgres: hostname, IP, and/or port |
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| 03:26.56 | MXIIA | I think I got the server the way I want it now :) thanks for all your help |
| 03:27.00 | PhrkOnLsh | kgoetz: everything loooks configured, but oo.o doesn't play nice :( |
| 03:27.14 | PhrkOnLsh | oh, wow I'm stupid |
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| 03:27.26 | PhrkOnLsh | I thought I'd misspelled a word that wasn't and got my knickers in a knot |
| 03:27.31 | PhrkOnLsh | thanks kgoetz :) |
| 03:27.38 | kgoetz | PhrkOnLsh: :) enjoy |
| 03:27.43 | postgres | yeah, watching logs while you do things, like: you write a page that displays something, it has an edit button, you watch the log while you hit that button, to see if errors happen |
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| 03:30.47 | JazHambo4321 | I got a new monitor and now the screen remains blank until x-windows starts up. So I can't see the bios setup to reconfigure it. Is there anything I can do to fix this problem? |
| 03:31.15 | kgoetz | sounds like a not-debian problem if you cant see in bios |
| 03:31.42 | JazHambo4321 | kgoetz: well... I'm running debian... |
| 03:32.00 | \amethyst | JazHambo4321: did you add a monitor or replace one? |
| 03:32.34 | kgoetz | JazHambo4321: in your bios? ... |
| 03:32.35 | JazHambo4321 | replaced one. The new one is LCD connected by hdmi. |
| 03:32.42 | kgoetz | if so, i'm interested ;) |
| 03:33.10 | \amethyst | JazHambo4321: old one was connected by VGA? |
| 03:33.17 | JazHambo4321 | yah |
| 03:33.28 | \amethyst | JazHambo4321: do you still have a VGA monitor? |
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| 03:33.42 | JazHambo4321 | Nope :( |
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| 03:35.09 | JazHambo4321 | It seems like this would be a very common problem but I can't seem to find much about it via googling... |
| 03:35.15 | \amethyst | JazHambo4321: if you can find one, there might be something in the BIOS to tell the video card to treat the HDMI port as the primary |
| 03:35.53 | \amethyst | JazHambo4321: What is your video card? |
| 03:36.02 | JazHambo4321 | hmmm I take a look at the bios setting once I can find a vga monitor |
| 03:36.09 | JazHambo4321 | It's a ATI card. |
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| 03:36.37 | dudeman | hm |
| 03:36.40 | dudeman | hi |
| 03:36.40 | postgres | ok, I got the nondefault going, disabled the default |
| 03:36.49 | dudeman | hm |
| 03:36.55 | dudeman | why? |
| 03:36.56 | postgres | hee hay ho hum |
| 03:37.11 | JazHambo4321 | It worked with the old monitor which was connect via a HDMI to VGA connector. Problem seems to be related to the LCD monitor... |
| 03:37.14 | cast | 'auth sufficient pam_opie.so; auth required pam_deny.so' is the same as having just 'auth required pam_opie.so' correct? |
| 03:37.51 | \amethyst | cast: depends on what follows |
| 03:38.13 | cast | well, no more auth lines |
| 03:38.15 | kgoetz | surely its not the same, because ones sufficent, and ones required ...? |
| 03:38.41 | postgres | \amethyst is that as far as he got? |
| 03:39.07 | \amethyst | postgres: that and commenting out/removing the apache2-default redirect |
| 03:39.46 | postgres | did that, got an index for / containing apache2-default, clicked on that, it works |
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| 03:39.56 | postgres | literally :) |
| 03:40.18 | \amethyst | cast: remember that common-auth is included from other configurations which could theoretically have stuff following the include |
| 03:40.28 | cast | ok ill paste the entire file |
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| 03:40.34 | cast | ive removed common-auth |
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| 03:40.58 | Dreadlorde | I'm having a problem with wine, every time I try to just even to winecfg, it take like 5 minutes to show up. Anyone else have this problem or know how to fix it? |
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| 03:43.27 | postgres | I want to write a simple C program which tells me how many dsp ins and outs I have, given a device |
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| 03:43.40 | cast | ihttp://rafb.net/p/2g6SH089.html |
| 03:43.49 | postgres | if I'm running etch, what libs I need? |
| 03:43.57 | cast | http://rafb.net/p/2g6SH089.html even, has my question inside the text file. it's a PAM question |
| 03:44.39 | \amethyst | cast: it's not exactly the same |
| 03:44.55 | cast | how does it behave differently? |
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| 03:45.28 | \amethyst | cast: in your case it is the same: if a 'sufficient' rule succeeds, nothing further is tried |
| 03:45.36 | cast | ok. |
| 03:45.42 | cast | so its exactly the same in my pam file |
| 03:45.47 | cast | good, i thought so :) |
| 03:45.54 | \amethyst | cast: should be, |
| 03:46.30 | cast | PAM, not something to make mistakes with. |
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| 03:48.58 | cast | heh, and i made a mistake |
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| 03:49.15 | cast | ^_^ that edit was supposed to happen up by common-auth. the identical comments confused me :\ |
| 03:51.18 | cast | fixes that in http://rafb.net/p/Vh1i5n27.html |
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| 03:51.54 | n-iCe | how can I know all my kernels installed, using a terminal? |
| 03:52.22 | cast | dpkg -l|grep linux-image- |
| 03:52.23 | dpkg | cast: bugger all, i dunno |
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| 03:53.02 | n-iCe | linux-image-2.6.26-1-686 |
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| 03:53.20 | n-iCe | cast: thanks, how can I delete it? linux-image-2.6.26-1-686 |
| 03:53.51 | cast | aptitude remove |
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| 03:53.55 | n-iCe | I did :/ |
| 03:54.03 | n-iCe | still showing it in the boot menu |
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| 03:54.28 | cast | does dpkg have ii next to that line, or rc |
| 03:54.45 | n-iCe | yes |
| 03:54.46 | n-iCe | ii |
| 03:54.52 | n-iCe | ii linux-image-2.6.26-1-686 2.6.26-3 Linux 2.6.26 image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/P4 |
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| 03:57.48 | postgres | n-iCe: is that image in /boot still? |
| 03:58.48 | n-iCe | yes |
| 03:59.16 | postgres | what do I need to get alsa to tell me (as a c program) how many channels on a particular configured card? |
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| 04:00.38 | stan555 | someone expert in vlc? |
| 04:02.50 | cast | nice |
| 04:02.55 | cast | got it all working good :) |
| 04:04.05 | stan555 | hi guys, some here expert in VLC? |
| 04:04.08 | vk5foss | !someone > stan555 |
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| 04:04.40 | postgres | stan555 you want an expert? or you want help with an issue? |
| 04:05.38 | stan555 | i want help sorry, sorry for the grammar |
| 04:06.18 | postgres | np. if that's the case, explain your situation in detail, the more information the better |
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| 04:06.57 | postgres | and don't address it to anyone in particular, you're doing that so that someone here can decide if they can help |
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| 04:07.43 | stan555 | ok thanks i was successfully installed VLC, in I need to transcode an rtsp stream to a sdp file |
| 04:08.23 | postgres | the simpler you can break it down, the more people will understand you |
| 04:08.51 | postgres | finish this sentence: the more people who understand you, |
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| 04:09.40 | stan555 | i was able to do it but the problem was there's an error occur when i try my command "vlc -I rc -vvv "rtsp://203.115.162.94/mpeg4/media.3gp" --sout #transcode{vcodec="H263",vb=55,width=176,height=144,fps="12.5",venc=ffmpeg{keyint=6,strict=1 |
| 04:09.42 | stan555 | ,strict-rc=1}}:rtp{dst=127.0.0.1,port-video=60002,sdp=file://"D:\\Traffic_I_SDP\\cam2_traffi |
| 04:09.44 | stan555 | ceye.sdp"}'--rtsp-caching=6000" |
| 04:10.26 | \amethyst | does that file:// URL actually work? |
| 04:10.37 | stan555 | yes |
| 04:11.18 | \amethyst | looks like you're missing a space before --rtsp-caching |
| 04:11.49 | \amethyst | and if this is part of a bash script, the # will make everything that follows a comment |
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| 04:12.20 | stan555 | yes it is a batch script |
| 04:12.27 | nirupama | what is mean by errors were encountered while processing /var/cache/apt/archives/tar_1.19-1.deb |
| 04:12.31 | stan555 | yes it is a bash script |
| 04:12.38 | nirupama | how to solve this |
| 04:12.50 | \amethyst | stan555: you seem to have some problems with your quoting |
| 04:13.01 | postgres | nirupama: what is mean by "encountered" |
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| 04:13.44 | stan555 | ok i will try to review my command |
| 04:14.00 | nirupama | postgres, what |
| 04:14.09 | \amethyst | stan555: maybe something like vlc -I rc -vvv "rtsp://203.115.162.94/mpeg4/media.3gp" --sout '#transcode{vcodec="H263",vb=55,width=176,height=144,fps="12.5",venc=ffmpeg{keyint=6,strict=1,strict-rc=1}}:rtp{dst=127.0.0.1,port-video=60002,sdp=file://"D:\\Traffic_I_SDP\\cam2_trafficeye.sdp"}' --rtsp-caching=6000 |
| 04:14.20 | \amethyst | but I don't know vlc very well, so that might not be right |
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| 04:15.12 | \amethyst | also, I don't know how something like D:\\Traffic_I_SDP\\ is supposed to work in Debian |
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| 04:19.55 | Tim-S | I'm installing debian using encrypted LVM through the normal installer. Everything went fine until GRUB installation, during which the installer locked up. What options do I have to fix this, or do I have to do another install? |
| 04:20.12 | postgres | !find asound |
| 04:20.47 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'asound' (6 of 17): (/usr/bin/ecasound) in sound/ecasound ;; (/usr/bin/asoundconf) in sound/alsa-utils ;; (/usr/include/sys/ultrasound.h) in libdevel/libc6-dev ;; (/usr/lib/ruby/1.8/ecasound.rb) in libs/libecasound-ruby1.8 ;; (/usr/lib/klibc/include/linux/ultrasound.h) in libdevel/libklibc-dev ;; (/usr/lib/bristol/{libasound.a|libasound.so.1}) in sound/bristol. |
| 04:21.05 | stiv2k | ultrasound? |
| 04:21.37 | postgres | I had one years n years ago, but I'm just interested in the alsa api libs/headers |
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| 04:24.47 | stiv2k | postgres: for like looking at your unborn baby? |
| 04:25.02 | zorpo2 | Sooo I'm using scp... using a symlink as a remote source... changed the target of that symlink, but scp is still using the OLD target of the symlink =/ I don't see any relevant options in the man page |
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| 04:26.46 | zorpo2 | hah, oops, nm |
| 04:27.33 | postgres | no, I want alsa to tell me some of the things it detected about my (prety strange to alsa) sound hardware |
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| 04:32.59 | postgres | ok I need a really lightweight gui browser to look at docs that might have images, just static is fine |
| 04:34.09 | ptman | dillo? |
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| 04:35.01 | postgres | I'll try that |
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| 04:35.13 | postgres | !depends dillo etch |
| 04:35.28 | dpkg | dillo: depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6), libfontconfig1 (>= 2.4.0), libfreetype6 (>= 2.2), libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0), libgtk1.2 (>= 1.2.10-4), libjpeg62, libpng12-0 (>= 1.2.15~beta5), libssl0.9.8 (>= 0.9.8c-1), libx11-6, libxext6, libxft2 (>> 2.1.1), libxi6, libxrender1, zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.1), wget |
| 04:35.32 | enouf | links2, elinks, etc |
| 04:36.14 | enouf | hrm, dillo was in etch? wow, dev stopped, and now i think there's some rejuvination upstream |
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| 04:56.37 | karlpinc | How are you supposed to press an "alt-Fn" key to get to another console while doing an install over a serial line? The keys get intercepted by the system running the terminal emulator. :-P |
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| 05:18.24 | blubberdiblub | are there still any drawbacks when running a 64bit userspace? (i don't care about flash, as i'm using gnash) |
| 05:21.49 | enouf | http://shrinkta.sourceforge.net/ people are always asking; how can i contribute .. well , have at it ;-) |
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| 05:35.39 | aoei23 | is there a script to configure a kernel according to the detected hardware on the machine |
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| 05:50.02 | karlpinc | aoei23 : Closest thing might be update-initramfs. But why? Just use modules. |
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| 05:50.19 | grendelson | Back in X client |
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| 05:50.45 | karlpinc | The answer to my question is: Don't do that. Go all the way to the bottom of the installation menu and run a shell instead. |
| 05:51.37 | tlmiller | grendelson, you're on freenode now . . . |
| 05:51.43 | grendelson | enouf you still here? I think I joined via 2 server routes (free* vs irc.debian.org) |
| 05:51.49 | grendelson | oh |
| 05:51.55 | grendelson | Now #flood works.... |
| 05:52.12 | foug] | ok this is a bit of a weird question, when i view the DHCP clients table on my wireless router, it doesn't show the hostname of the computer i've installed debian on. It just shows the ip it's leasing out. When I do the "hostname" command on the debian box, it does indeed show i have one..of course, but is there any reason why it's not showing up in the wifi router? |
| 05:52.23 | enouf | i just left b0z0 |
| 05:52.28 | enouf | that's why it workd |
| 05:54.08 | karlpinc | foug] : "hostname" in dhcp-land is a particular bit of data that gets passed back and forth. I think MS chose that name just to confuse the rest off the world. (They do that.) It's not needed or used by unix boxes afaik. |
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| 05:55.09 | grendelson | http://paste.debian.net/16121 <<- there is the output of my dpkg --configure -a |
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| 05:56.15 | enouf | grendelson: wait, wrong network |
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| 05:57.36 | grendelson | Holy - now htat I can see the output of the files it might jsut be an out of space issue! |
| 05:57.55 | karlpinc | foug] : That said, you might be able to configure your dhcp client to supply the info (any info you like :). |
| 05:58.21 | grendelson | I have 0% avaialble on Root (but /var opt tmp home usr are all separate LVs |
| 05:58.37 | grendelson | What woudl have gone to root! |
| 05:58.51 | grendelson | even boot is separate partition.... |
| 05:58.54 | grendelson | crud |
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| 05:58.58 | NLE | hi guys i need help in my VLC command, I always got an error "stream_out_transcode private debug: drift is too high" can anybody help me with my problem thanks |
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| 06:00.22 | postgres | NLE: find def of "drift" and "too high", find out if you can lower drift, and if so how |
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| 06:01.26 | foug] | karlpinc: well i have ubuntu as my desktop and the name of my comp shows up just fine, but i did the most basic installation of debian, i'm just curious is all |
| 06:02.06 | NLE | postgres, how? this is puzzling me since yesterday |
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| 06:10.01 | enouf | foug]: you might need some portmap / sunrpc running? |
| 06:10.41 | enouf | netstat -tunap on the various boxen - i think MPoop like porta-potty 139 |
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| 06:24.26 | allos | How do I permisso for user? |
| 06:24.45 | allos | :localhost.localdomain NOTICE AUTH :BitlBee-IRCd initialized, please go on |
| 06:24.45 | allos | ERROR :Warning: Permission problem: Can't read/write from/to `/var/lib/bitlbee/' |
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| 06:26.54 | aghaster | Hi, I forget which configuration file was used by synpatic |
| 06:27.00 | aghaster | synaptic* |
| 06:27.01 | aghaster | or apt-get |
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| 06:27.14 | aghaster | where is it? |
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| 06:27.25 | kommodore | what configuration? |
| 06:28.04 | aghaster | forget that. I found it, /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 06:28.08 | aghaster | for my repositories |
| 06:29.19 | allos | How do I permisson for user? |
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| 06:31.28 | MariachiAC | How do I set u non-free repository in debian to get packages for example pidgin? |
| 06:31.40 | hoxu | !non-free |
| 06:31.40 | dpkg | methinks non-free is a component which contains software that does not comply with the <DFSG>. To add non-free packages to your packages index, ask me about <non-free sources>. To see which non-free packages are installed on your system, ask me about <vrms>. For the Non-free tracking system, see http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/ |
| 06:31.48 | aghaster | is pidgin in non free? |
| 06:31.50 | aghaster | eh. |
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| 06:32.15 | aghaster | you add non-free at the end of each line in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 06:32.35 | aghaster | and then you reload in synaptic |
| 06:32.41 | devin | i got a second hdd with windows on it, what do i add in menu.list for ex: (hd1,0) fdisk shows windows being on /dev/sdb1 |
| 06:33.03 | MariachiAC | Aghaster: ok so under everyline of my sourrces I add non-free |
| 06:33.14 | aghaster | no, at the end of each line |
| 06:33.40 | aghaster | deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free |
| 06:33.40 | aghaster | deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free |
| 06:33.42 | aghaster | like this |
| 06:33.45 | MariachiAC | Aghaster: Ok, thank you. |
| 06:33.54 | aghaster | you can add contrib if you don't have it |
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| 06:34.32 | allos | How do I give permisson for user? |
| 06:34.36 | SJrX | Anyone know a good iMAP server? |
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| 06:35.45 | aghaster | allos: on top of your screen, go to System->Administration->User and Groups |
| 06:36.04 | aghaster | select the user, and click properties |
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| 06:36.09 | aghaster | see the user priviledges tab |
| 06:36.49 | MariachiAC | aghgstar, I have a mmorror I'm using, how do I know which address to use? or... perhaps where can I aquire the address for hte mirror I'm using to make sure the address check out in my source file. |
| 06:37.40 | aghaster | if you are already using that mirror it should be in sources.list |
| 06:37.49 | aghaster | because that's what synaptic uses |
| 06:37.53 | aghaster | and apt-get |
| 06:38.04 | MariachiAC | Aghaster: Ok. |
| 06:39.07 | simonrvn | ..and aptitude |
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| 06:50.57 | jpu | hi,all! i want to use ipc in my client-server program, anybody can tell me which is the BEST one or any helpful mannual? thanks |
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| 06:54.58 | liable | !qotd0 |
| 06:54.58 | dpkg | my sanity check is a race condition. - Jim Dennis |
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| 06:58.27 | Supaplex | !lart deadlocked hid |
| 06:58.27 | dpkg | takes out deadlocked hid with the trash |
| 06:58.57 | Supaplex | !best |
| 06:58.57 | dpkg | Best for what? Please define what you mean by "best". Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play! Anyone for Tennis! |
| 06:59.07 | Supaplex | jpu: one you can support :) |
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| 07:02.56 | firespeaker | anyone know if there's an apt-friendly way to install 32bit packages on an amd64 system? I seem to remember something, but I could've just been dreaming |
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| 07:04.22 | sarts | my epiphany-browser has infinitely small fonts for the rendered webpages, how do I fix that? |
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| 07:06.35 | firespeaker | sarts: do other gtk applications have font-size issues too? |
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| 07:07.30 | cast | firespeaker: not so much, methods involve a chroot or jail of some sort |
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| 07:13.12 | firespeaker | cast: okay. I'll just do it all manually then |
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| 07:17.54 | sarts | firespeaker: no, other apps don't do that |
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| 07:18.05 | sarts | it is just the gecko thing |
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| 07:19.13 | firespeaker | hm, galeon too? |
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| 07:24.41 | sarts | firespeaker: I need to install 145MB of deps to get galeon |
| 07:25.30 | firespeaker | hmm, are you sure? |
| 07:25.41 | firespeaker | did you try aptitude? |
| 07:25.58 | firespeaker | if some of the deps are openoffice, tell it it's on crack. that's happened to me before using apt-get |
| 07:26.27 | sarts | ok |
| 07:29.33 | sarts | well, aptitude does it too |
| 07:30.38 | firespeaker | does it give you any choices? |
| 07:30.46 | firespeaker | and do the options look relevant? |
| 07:30.54 | sarts | choices? |
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| 07:31.01 | firespeaker | (and is epiphany up-to-date?) |
| 07:31.10 | sarts | i think I haven't used debian for a while. :p |
| 07:31.13 | firespeaker | well, options of how to install things |
| 07:31.23 | firespeaker | okay, when did the epiphany problem being? |
| 07:31.24 | firespeaker | *being |
| 07:31.26 | firespeaker | *begin |
| 07:31.35 | sarts | when I first started it. |
| 07:31.44 | sarts | I just installed lenny |
| 07:31.45 | firespeaker | is this a fresh install? |
| 07:31.47 | firespeaker | ahhh |
| 07:32.00 | firespeaker | I've had this problem before is the thing |
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| 07:32.13 | firespeaker | I usually mess with my graphics driver and it goes away |
| 07:32.34 | firespeaker | I think it has something to do with how X interprets dpi or something |
| 07:32.37 | sarts | ?! |
| 07:32.40 | sarts | ok |
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| 07:33.16 | sarts | i use video-intel |
| 07:33.24 | sarts | lets try video-i810 |
| 07:33.40 | firespeaker | yeah, messing around with various compatible options is what I normally do |
| 07:33.44 | firespeaker | free/non-free versions, etc |
| 07:34.03 | firespeaker | but I usually only deal with nvidia or ati on my hardware |
| 07:34.29 | sarts | ok |
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| 07:52.43 | zxxd | is there a way to blacklist using wild card |
| 07:52.47 | zxxd | like blacklist sata* |
| 07:52.52 | firespeaker | modules? |
| 07:54.09 | streuner | zxxd: Why do you want blacklist anyway? |
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| 07:55.56 | zxxd | because i am 3Vil |
| 07:56.18 | amal029 | laughs |
| 07:56.47 | streuner | hm, you are prolly rather not that clever |
| 07:57.18 | zxxd | streuner, what do you suggest smart boy |
| 07:57.52 | streuner | zxxd: i would suggest you, to answer our questions |
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| 07:58.05 | zxxd | streuner, you didn't answer mine |
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| 07:58.19 | zxxd | streuner, i want to blacklist usb-storage |
| 07:58.22 | zxxd | per example |
| 07:58.33 | zxxd | and some ata and sata modules |
| 07:58.50 | streuner | !blacklist |
| 07:58.50 | dpkg | In etch, lenny and sid, create/edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local and add a line similar to this (without quotes): "blacklist module_name". IMPORTANT: ask about <blacklist-initramfs>. For sarge ask me about <blacklist sarge>. To blacklist a module at installation time, ask me about <installer blacklist>. |
| 07:58.58 | zxxd | prevent hotplug from loading them as a result of alias expansion isn't that obvious? |
| 07:59.15 | streuner | remove hotplug then |
| 07:59.33 | streuner | (if you don't really need it) |
| 07:59.33 | zxxd | but then other modules would not load |
| 07:59.37 | zxxd | like usbcore |
| 07:59.43 | wols_ | zxxd: hotplug is long deprecated |
| 07:59.45 | zxxd | i would have to manually select them |
| 07:59.59 | zxxd | wols_ : udev ... |
| 08:00.20 | zxxd | it isn't dead |
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| 08:02.39 | streuner | zxxd: what does "cat /proc/version" say, btw? |
| 08:02.42 | gypsymauro | hi |
| 08:03.02 | zxxd | Linux version 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686-bigmem (Debian 2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.4) (dannf@debian.org) (gcc version 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-21)) #1 SMP Mon Jul 21 11:59:12 UTC 2008 |
| 08:03.18 | gypsymauro | there is a way to set correctly permission of debian homedirs? it's right a chmod 700 -R /home/*? |
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| 08:04.13 | wols_ | gypsymauro: dirs are set that way, not files |
| 08:04.19 | unop | gypsymauro, not -R no, definitely not |
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| 08:06.49 | gypsymauro | any hint? |
| 08:07.11 | gypsymauro | I'm afraid to change all permissions in the wrong way, they are a mess right now |
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| 08:07.43 | tlmiller | gypsymauro, what is your goal? why would you recursively set them to 700? |
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| 08:08.22 | streuner | he want a clear normal mess, instead of a chaotic mess? |
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| 08:08.48 | gypsymauro | I want to set them as default of debian, I think normaly is 700 or something like that right? |
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| 08:09.17 | tlmiller | create a new user and go look |
| 08:09.29 | streuner | home dirs are usually a mess, only you spent the time to clear that... |
| 08:09.50 | streuner | but for a normal user it isn't that important... |
| 08:10.02 | unop | gypsymauro, 700 does fine .. though you shouldn't need to set it recursively |
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| 08:11.51 | streuner | hm, that reminds me to mwilson, he had clear and perfect home dirs :-) |
| 08:11.56 | {xmb} | !tet |
| 08:11.58 | {xmb} | !test |
| 08:11.58 | dpkg | Test Failed. |
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| 08:12.56 | osmosis | here is the config I am using, http://dpaste.com/75192/ the second virtual host is not working. I dont know why. |
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| 08:14.29 | streuner | hm |
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| 08:18.40 | blubberdiblub | hasn't there been a bug reported in the BTS related to something similar? can't remember where, tho. probably on one of the kernel packages |
| 08:19.44 | blubberdiblub | (nevermind, may very well be unrelated) |
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| 08:27.36 | ShredZ | Does nohz option work on etch 4r3 and should I set nohz=off to get reduced kernel clock ? |
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| 08:33.34 | ShaneAu | packages.debian.org is having issues at the moment? |
| 08:34.18 | ShredZ | Anyone know if I should set nohz=on or nohz=off for a tickless kernel on etch (2.6.18) ? |
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| 08:37.55 | akin | is it ok to only choose desktop and not the standard system during the installation? |
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| 08:38.26 | akin | I don't want bloat |
| 08:38.44 | petemc | you're free to pick all or none of the tasks |
| 08:39.09 | akin | but will the desktop work without the standard section? |
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| 08:39.16 | streuner | never, that couldn't be! |
| 08:39.16 | streuner | (pdo) |
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| 08:40.09 | petemc | akin: you would have to assume so, else the debian package system with its complex dependancies wouldnt be up to much |
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| 08:40.43 | akin | ok |
| 08:41.08 | akin | but I want to look inside each section and install what I want, not the whole thing. |
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| 08:42.12 | petemc | akin: then dont install packages via the task manager, just install what you need |
| 08:42.41 | petemc | task selector/whatever its called |
| 08:43.21 | fireba11 | petemc: to be honest i never used that thing, always installed manually :-) |
| 08:43.23 | akin | ok |
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| 08:48.24 | oihasdf | is there a way to get an alert when a new version of a particular debian package is released? |
| 08:48.40 | Orbixx | Idle in here? |
| 08:49.39 | Orbixx | Just wait for "INSTALEDED LENNY NOW MY WYRELESSS SI NOT WROKING. I THUGHT THIS WAS STABLE!11!!1". |
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| 08:55.45 | jum-chron | hello, where can I find the standard wallpaper that is displayed on debian gnome? |
| 08:58.18 | Orbixx | /usr/share/backgrounds |
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| 09:03.47 | ganes | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:06.58 | jum-chron | Orbixx, can the wallpaper be found in the internet or can you send it to me pls? |
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| 09:10.12 | Orbixx | I don't run Debian as a desktop. |
| 09:10.22 | Orbixx | And it probably can be found on the Internet. |
| 09:10.27 | Orbixx | Google it. |
| 09:10.42 | nkuttler | jum-chron: i would guess somewhere in /usr/share/gnome* |
| 09:10.49 | nkuttler | jum-chron: nm |
| 09:11.34 | jum-chron | nkuttler: the problem is that i dont use debian but i want this wallpaper xD |
| 09:12.10 | Orbixx | jum-chron: http://www.debianart.org/cchost/people/si0ux/si0ux_-_Debian_Moreblue2.png |
| 09:12.41 | nkuttler | ugh. why would anybody who's not even running debian want _that_ wallpaper? |
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| 09:13.40 | jum-chron | Orbixx: thx very much |
| 09:13.47 | jum-chron | cause it looks stylish |
| 09:14.12 | tarzeau | jum-chron: no it doesn't |
| 09:14.58 | nkuttler | it looks osxish |
| 09:15.05 | jum-chron | tarzeau: thats your opinion |
| 09:15.22 | tarzeau | nkuttler: not that good, no |
| 09:15.40 | tarzeau | nkuttler: and debian is missing the wide screen formatted wallpapers |
| 09:16.05 | tarzeau | and some people have the screen 90 degrees rotated, then these wallpapers suck too |
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| 09:17.55 | nkuttler | likes landscapes as wallpapers |
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| 09:18.30 | OpenTokix | How do you define what nameservers to use in debian. I am not using dhcp |
| 09:18.50 | nkuttler | OpenTokix: /etc/resolv.conf |
| 09:19.22 | OpenTokix | nkuttler: it seems to be overwritten |
| 09:19.27 | nkuttler | OpenTokix: well, how do you ifup? |
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| 09:20.18 | OpenTokix | ifup eth0 |
| 09:21.05 | spaceninja | omg, I don't have any modules, how do I install the base section from the isntallation script now that I'm in gnome, |
| 09:21.18 | OpenTokix | nkuttler: I will try resolv.conf |
| 09:21.44 | nkuttler | OpenTokix: if you use some dialing app that may overwrite the resolv.conf i guess |
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| 09:22.07 | OpenTokix | nkuttler: Not sure if the cisco 3650 it's connected to is a modem ;) |
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| 09:22.35 | Orbixx | 28.8K, clearly. |
| 09:22.36 | wols_ | OpenTokix: pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces |
| 09:24.05 | OpenTokix | wols_: no, http://pastebin.com/d612a819e <-- there |
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| 09:25.25 | wols_ | OpenTokix: this is a broken interfaces file. "address this-is-the-ip " |
| 09:25.40 | OpenTokix | wols_: yeah |
| 09:25.46 | Orbixx | I think that was intentional? |
| 09:25.47 | OpenTokix | wols_: I replaced the actual ip of my machine |
| 09:25.55 | OpenTokix | Orbixx: correct |
| 09:26.03 | wols_ | OpenTokix: then solve your own problems when you want to play childish games. good day |
| 09:26.11 | wols_ | Orbixx: he has no clue what he's doing |
| 09:26.28 | Orbixx | wols_: Forgive me if I am mistaken. |
| 09:26.32 | OpenTokix | wols_: nah, not the slightest - you are ofc. right |
| 09:26.35 | Orbixx | But is this not a channel to provide help. |
| 09:27.00 | wols_ | sure, but kiddies playing games, I don't waste my time with |
| 09:27.11 | OpenTokix | wols_: I wasent planning to provide the ip of my debianbox |
| 09:27.14 | OpenTokix | wols_: to the world |
| 09:27.15 | Orbixx | I didn't see him asking for help loading CSS with wine? |
| 09:27.27 | crashanddie | OpenTokix, it's a local network |
| 09:27.44 | crashanddie | OpenTokix, in other words, the IP address on there is non-routable, we can't do anything with it |
| 09:27.49 | Orbixx | It's a big channel, which is also likely logged somewhere and displayed publically. |
| 09:27.56 | OpenTokix | crashanddie: no, its not a local address |
| 09:28.07 | OpenTokix | crashanddie: its a public addres on the internet with a 1Gbps connection |
| 09:28.18 | OpenTokix | Orbixx: correct |
| 09:28.25 | crashanddie | OpenTokix, netmask 255.255.255.248 |
| 09:28.27 | OpenTokix | well, anyway - i think I sovled it |
| 09:28.29 | OpenTokix | crashanddie: yes |
| 09:28.36 | OpenTokix | crashanddie: only three ip's in the scope |
| 09:28.40 | OpenTokix | machine1, machine2 and the router |
| 09:28.50 | crashanddie | so it's behind a router... |
| 09:28.54 | OpenTokix | crashanddie: yes |
| 09:28.58 | gypsymauro | there is a way to know the differences between the installed version of a program and the updated version that I will install? |
| 09:28.59 | OpenTokix | crashanddie: a cisco 3650 |
| 09:29.06 | Orbixx | A router that uses NAT? |
| 09:29.06 | OpenTokix | anyway, I think I solved it |
| 09:29.10 | OpenTokix | Orbixx: no |
| 09:29.13 | wols_ | gypsymauro: apt-cache policy <package> |
| 09:29.15 | Orbixx | Well, there we go then. |
| 09:29.17 | OpenTokix | have to go |
| 09:29.22 | Orbixx | Ok, later. |
| 09:29.50 | gypsymauro | tanx wols_ |
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| 09:31.29 | ganes | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:32.14 | Equinox | hey guys, im trying to use showmonut for nfs, im getting "Rpc program not registered error", ive read i need to start the nfs services, which one would that be? |
| 09:33.11 | simonrvn | portmap isn't running |
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| 09:34.10 | Equinox | when i do ./portmap start it says its already running? |
| 09:34.16 | Equinox | in /etc/init.d/ |
| 09:34.26 | simonrvn | nfs/d register with portmap to be managed by it. rpcinfo -p [optional host] will tell you immediately if it's there (other than a pidof portmap) |
| 09:34.35 | simonrvn | it might be wedged |
| 09:35.01 | simonrvn | the rpcinfo -p command should return crap if it's not wedged |
| 09:35.15 | Equinox | it returned 4 entries, 2 portmappers and 2 stauts |
| 09:36.23 | simonrvn | hm, sounds like it should work... try restarting nfs-common maybe |
| 09:37.39 | simonrvn | oh and nfs-*-server (kernel or user, i recommend the kernel version) |
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| 09:38.41 | simonrvn | if they don't show up in rpcinfo, stop your rpc services, kill portmap, start it up again, and start the services up again. good night, and good luck. |
| 09:38.51 | Equinox | ha thanks |
| 09:39.21 | ganes | hello , i have HCL pc of using RTL8168B ethernet card ., the light is glowing but when i put "mii-tool" --- it displays " no mii interface found : eth0 not supported" |
| 09:40.11 | simonrvn | not all nics are the same (translation: they don't all support mii) |
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| 09:57.40 | foug] | how can i find out which version of apache i'm running? not sure if i have 2.0 or 2.2 |
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| 09:58.16 | Dako-kun | apache2 -V? |
| 09:58.27 | quote | apache2 -v |
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| 09:58.30 | Dako-kun | ah. |
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| 09:58.48 | foug] | thanks! 2.2.3, wee |
| 09:58.56 | Dako-kun | :) |
| 09:59.12 | foug] | now, next question...is there a simple way to change the font/text size? i have no gui |
| 09:59.31 | foug] | someone told me of svgatext something or other but when i started reading about it, people said it has a possibility to fry your videocard |
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| 09:59.51 | msshams | please tell me that why this line can't run in crontab? http://paste.debian.net/16127/ |
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| 10:03.17 | nkuttler | msshams: well do you get an error? |
| 10:03.46 | nkuttler | foug]: setfont iirc, but that was some time ago |
| 10:03.53 | msshams | nkuttler: where can i find cron log? |
| 10:04.09 | nkuttler | msshams: the user it runs as should get a mail |
| 10:04.23 | nkuttler | msshams: or syslog probably |
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| 10:08.44 | Sysctl___ | hey folks. whats the big difference between aptitude and apt? i tend to use apt, so im curious if does anything helful in particular |
| 10:08.50 | Sysctl___ | helpful |
| 10:09.05 | avu | !why aptitude |
| 10:09.06 | dpkg | aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution than other tools, it has far more advanced searching available, and will automatically uninstall unneeded dependencies, read /usr/share/doc/aptitude/README for more info. Aptitude can also remove or purge one package at the same time as installing others all from the command line, making it much easier to recover from broken dependencies. |
| 10:09.46 | Sysctl___ | ah, great |
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| 10:09.50 | Sysctl___ | cheers |
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| 10:11.37 | AusLoki | I am on a system with no media and no internet access but have the debian packages from oo.org |
| 10:11.43 | AusLoki | how can I install them? |
| 10:11.47 | AusLoki | dpkg -i fails |
| 10:11.47 | dpkg | package fails is already installed |
| 10:12.09 | AusLoki | and i tried using -R on the DEBS directory |
| 10:12.13 | AusLoki | but to no avail |
| 10:12.44 | jelly | !errors |
| 10:12.44 | dpkg | if you don't tell us the exact error messages you get, we can't tell you what's wrong, and it's also useful to know exactly what command you're typing. Please look for the *first* error that occurs, as this is often the cause of later errors, or - ask me about <localized errors> too |
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| 10:19.08 | ganes | hello , i have HCL pc of using RTL8168B ethernet card ., the light is glowing but when i put "mii-tool" --- it displays " no mii interface found : eth0 not supported" |
| 10:20.58 | amphi | ganes: what about ethtool? |
| 10:20.59 | jelly | ganes: mii-tool doesn't work for gigabit cards, use ethtool |
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| 10:21.53 | spaceninja | this is bs, the network isn't working |
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| 10:25.38 | q^ | how i can allow a ftp user to be able to view files outside from his directory ? |
| 10:26.39 | cast | unchroot him |
| 10:26.44 | q^ | or to access, /home/Jim default ftp directory, and i want to be able to open /home/Y too |
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| 10:27.18 | findme | dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/zzz.bk bs=8192 count=1; ---does that mean I am trying to get a output file of 8k ( count*block size) bytes. |
| 10:27.21 | cast | you could do a bind mount to expose Y inside Jim if you wanted |
| 10:27.48 | ganes | amphi, what is the relation for ethtool ., i am not able to browse |
| 10:27.53 | cast | findme: do it and see :) |
| 10:28.15 | findme | cast, tried it wanted some confirmation.... |
| 10:28.52 | pmurias | i read wiki.debian.org/Xen, do i really have to use etch packages to use my lenny laptop as a Xen host? |
| 10:29.26 | ganes | jelly, what the ethtool will do tell me .. for r8168B ethernet card driver will support the r8169 driver |
| 10:29.45 | cast | pmurias: or use an unoffical repo |
| 10:29.57 | amphi | ganes: eh? 'ethtool eth0' will give you info |
| 10:30.10 | cast | pmurias: as long as dom0 works, who cares what it runs :) |
| 10:30.12 | pmurias | there seems to be linux-image-xen-686 in lenny |
| 10:30.26 | ganes | amphi, ethtool will it work ... |
| 10:30.41 | ganes | amphi, ethtool will it work ... the r8168 ethernet card |
| 10:30.55 | pmurias | cast: re unofical repo, link please? |
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| 10:33.07 | q^ | cast> can you be more detailed with bind option ? |
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| 10:33.17 | cast | goes to make dinner : |
| 10:35.00 | cast | or not, no one else is so why should i! |
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| 10:37.27 | fireba11 | hi, i'm trying to use curlftpfs, but after mounting my ftp-space and copying some files it's not working anymore and ls -lha shows the folder onyl with ? in each column except name. any dieas ? |
| 10:37.36 | fireba11 | ideas :-) |
| 10:38.43 | cast | got any debug or logging options |
| 10:40.19 | ganes | amphi, http://pastebin.com/m1025b84c please see this link |
| 10:40.29 | cast | ahh i go and find the xen repo but hes gone :< |
| 10:40.33 | ganes | jelly, , http://pastebin.com/m1025b84c please see this link |
| 10:40.38 | fireba11 | dunno if there are any. also i got no idea how to delete or restore the folder to normal |
| 10:40.50 | cast | q^: bind is easy, can do a ro bind [though you might need a recent kernel] |
| 10:40.56 | AusLoki | q^ itsays it collieds with an already installed package |
| 10:41.08 | AusLoki | i cant give very specific errors because it is in german |
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| 10:41.59 | q^ | i want to remove this hard link mount --bind /home/Y /home/Jim/Y |
| 10:42.19 | cast | thats not a hardlink. |
| 10:42.33 | cast | cp -l would be a hard link |
| 10:42.48 | AusLoki | is there a way to force dpkg to override collisions |
| 10:43.16 | cast | AusLoki: dunno, probably, better to fix the underlying issie though |
| 10:43.31 | q^ | cast> how i can remove that type of link? |
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| 10:43.49 | cast | unmount it.. |
| 10:43.58 | AusLoki | cast, im trying to install openoffice 2.4 and it is colliding with 2.0 already installed |
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| 10:44.11 | AusLoki | wouldnt forcing it just overwrite? |
| 10:44.23 | cast | sure, but then youd have some weird mix of 2.0 and 2.4 |
| 10:44.29 | cast | which may fuck up. why not just remove 2.0? |
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| 10:47.40 | q^ | [root@asterisk1 home]# umount -a /home/Y /home/Jim/Y |
| 10:47.40 | q^ | umount: /var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs: device is busy |
| 10:47.41 | q^ | umount: /: device is busy |
| 10:47.41 | q^ | ?? |
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| 10:47.59 | q^ | apologize |
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| 10:50.13 | tarzeau | when will lenny be released? |
| 10:50.23 | jelly | tarzeau: heh |
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| 10:51.03 | cast | lol @ -a |
| 10:51.19 | cast | q^: did you read the manpage at all |
| 10:51.42 | cast | umount /home/Jim/Y, was what you were looking for. |
| 10:52.50 | sarts | Hmm, I need a proxy on this network... how do I configure apt-get to temporarily use a proxy? |
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| 10:54.23 | q^ | cast> thanks |
| 10:54.45 | cast | watches the windows vm freeze due to tortoisehg operation |
| 10:56.08 | fireba11 | anyone using curlftpfs ? it's quitting on files > 1 GB here and want to verify if it#s a bug |
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| 10:56.38 | cast | check the bts, fwiw |
| 10:57.08 | fireba11 | nothing there |
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| 10:58.44 | jelly | fireba11: quitting on doing which operation? reading from curlftpfs, or writing to? |
| 11:00.04 | fireba11 | jelly: writing. small files work, files over 1 GB seems to cause it to crash, leaving the mount unusabe untill i unmount and remount |
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| 11:00.18 | ganes | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:00.20 | sarts | fxd |
| 11:00.28 | jelly | fireba11: which debian release, which curlftpfs version? have you confirmed it's not caused by ftpd? |
| 11:01.11 | jelly | fireba11: (not that it should hang if ftpd works strangely, but anyway) |
| 11:01.24 | fireba11 | jelly: etch, and the version that comes with it. no the ftp server is proftpd, but it's not mine so i can't have a look at the logs easily |
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| 11:01.46 | jelly | fireba11: well can you upload a large file with a normal ftp client? |
| 11:02.06 | fireba11 | yes, manually it works fine .. files are well under 2 GB for now anyway |
| 11:03.04 | fireba11 | jelly: my hoster provides ftp backupspace (as retarded as that may be) so i wanted to script a backup to it. scripting FTP is hard so i tried using curlftpfs and simply mount it |
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| 11:04.38 | jelly | meh, I can't seem to figure out how to make curlftpfs ask for my password interactively |
| 11:04.39 | cast | scripting ftp is easy :\ |
| 11:05.01 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'bin/kldstat' returned no results. |
| 11:05.06 | cast | ncftpput :) |
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| 11:05.19 | fireba11 | cast : well it may not be THAT hard but prociding a FTP space for backup in the first place is rather moronic |
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| 11:06.17 | fireba11 | cast : whats that ? |
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| 11:07.33 | cast | still trying to work out what prociding means, dict is timing out :( |
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| 11:10.00 | Paul_UK | hi all. whats the quickest and easiest way of creating a local repository? and can be portable? i.e copied onto a usb stick and read from the local server ? |
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| 11:11.47 | tarzeau | Paul_UK: i'm using what's described at wiki.debian.org/Enterprise |
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| 11:16.12 | petemc | Paul_UK: dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null | gzip > Packages.gz , in a web accessable dir which contains your packages |
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| 11:16.35 | Paul_UK | petemc: ok let me try this. |
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| 11:17.08 | Glanzmann | Which kernel version as testing currently? |
| 11:17.23 | OpenTokix | Anyone experienced with openvpn here? |
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| 11:17.59 | Glanzmann | OpenTokix: Yes, I am. |
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| 11:18.30 | OpenTokix | Glanzmann: ok, I have a server, 50 machines join fine - and then 10 machines refuse to join |
| 11:18.40 | OpenTokix | Glanzmann: network path is fine, date and time is fine |
| 11:18.55 | OpenTokix | Glanzmann: port is open (server is on its own private port in the router) |
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| 11:19.53 | Glanzmann | OpenTokix: I assume that you use a multi instance. |
| 11:20.00 | OpenTokix | Glanzmann: ? |
| 11:20.04 | Glanzmann | Do you have enough IP addresses reserved? |
| 11:20.09 | Glanzmann | What do the logfiles say? |
| 11:20.11 | OpenTokix | Glanzmann: yes, b-class |
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| 11:20.21 | OpenTokix | Glanzmann: TLS Error: TLS key negotiation failed to occu' |
| 11:20.38 | Glanzmann | OpenTokix: On Multi mode every client consumes 4 ip addresses that leaves you 13 clients |
| 11:20.52 | OpenTokix | Glanzmann: yes, I reserved a full class B |
| 11:20.52 | Glanzmann | OpenTokix: Is the clock of the client in sync? |
| 11:21.02 | OpenTokix | Glanzmann: and clients are on the .1.0/24 alread |
| 11:21.03 | Glanzmann | Oh class ,,B'' so you have more than enough. |
| 11:21.03 | OpenTokix | Glanzmann: yes |
| 11:21.12 | OpenTokix | Glanzmann: yes, enough for 20k machines =) |
| 11:21.26 | Glanzmann | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:21.31 | OpenTokix | Glanzmann: I know |
| 11:21.46 | Glanzmann | Is the clock on the client in sync? |
| 11:21.47 | OpenTokix | Glanzmann: First machines on 0.0/24, then when that was filled they joined 1.0/24 so forth |
| 11:21.53 | OpenTokix | Glanzmann: yes, clock is in sync |
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| 11:22.06 | couchtester | mahlzeit |
| 11:22.06 | Glanzmann | can you send me the full logfile of the client |
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| 11:22.24 | Glanzmann | so call /etc/init.d/openvpn stop; /etc/init.d/openvpn start |
| 11:22.51 | OpenTokix | Glanzmann: holdon |
| 11:22.54 | OpenTokix | takes 60 seconds |
| 11:23.37 | darkk^ | I feel, that's FAQ but I've not found sane answer in google... What is the best place for iptables-save and iptables-restore ? should I extend /etc/default/ifupdown for that ? |
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| 11:23.57 | russo | why might /var/log/wtmp disappear :S should i worry? |
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| 11:24.26 | Glanzmann | OpenTokix: post it to http://pbot.rmdir.de/ or something like that. |
| 11:24.32 | russo | i mean my log only goes back to aug 2, but my servers been up for a long time before that |
| 11:24.35 | OpenTokix | Glanzmann: workong on it |
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| 11:28.27 | Paul_UK | petemc: what if i dont want to use a web accessable dir, but instead have apt-get go locally? file:/// for instance |
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| 11:30.27 | petemc | Paul_UK: same should apply i guess |
| 11:30.40 | Fiskah | I've just corrected the timezone, but the time is still one hour off... It might be the DST. How do I correct this? |
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| 11:31.50 | ace | helloo, i have a dumb question, I have a shared lib in a special folders. I can add the path to LD_LIBRARY_PATH but i want the folder available for everyone by default |
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| 11:34.36 | q^ | is it working smb protocol over internet ? |
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| 11:48.58 | Fiskah | How do I sync my clock using NTP? |
| 11:49.16 | OBcecado | ntpdate pool.ntp.org |
| 11:49.22 | streuner | !set time |
| 11:49.22 | dpkg | To set the time in debian, use date --set. The truly enlightened user, however, will install ntp and adjtimex to have their clock set automatically on reboot and slewed to match time servers. You may also need to run tzconfig (sarge, etch) or dpkg-reconfigure tzdata (lenny, sid) and make sure you have the right UTC setting in /etc/default/rcS first. |
| 11:49.57 | darkk^ | IMHO, s/ntp/openntpd/ |
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| 11:52.18 | postgres | AceLan: look at /etc/ld.so.conf, man ld.so, look in /etc/ld.so.conf.d |
| 11:52.43 | postgres | err, |
| 11:53.01 | postgres | ace , look at /etc/ld.so.conf, man ld.so, look in /etc/ld.so.conf.d |
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| 11:54.09 | postgres | just goes to show yet again that irc client authors don't look at shell tab completion... if they did, they would see why theirs sux |
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| 11:54.46 | petemc | a bad workman always blames his tools |
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| 11:55.19 | postgres | a good workman makes good tools |
| 11:55.33 | petemc | you just make that up yourself now? |
| 11:55.48 | postgres | grumpy this morning? |
| 11:56.07 | petemc | no, i just think the tab completion in my particular client isnt that bad |
| 11:56.23 | postgres | why not say that? |
| 11:57.04 | postgres | and what client do you use? |
| 11:57.12 | petemc | irssi |
| 11:57.29 | postgres | presently using bitchx |
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| 11:57.41 | petemc | theres your problem |
| 11:57.45 | [ShapeShifter] | bye! |
| 11:57.58 | pozic | irssi doesn't tab-complete based on whoever said something last, AFAIK. |
| 11:58.03 | postgres | yeah |
| 11:58.04 | pozic | So, irssi can be improved as well. |
| 11:58.19 | pozic | In short, everything can be improved, just nobody cares enough. |
| 11:58.22 | postgres | I like the way the shell does completion... |
| 11:58.37 | pozic | postgres: "the shell". There are >10 shells. |
| 11:58.41 | pozic | postgres: which one? |
| 11:58.44 | postgres | bash |
| 11:58.54 | tralala | irssi _does_ tab complete based on the posting order |
| 11:59.06 | pozic | Some people think zsh does more. |
| 11:59.08 | postgres | posting order? |
| 11:59.27 | pozic | postgres: when someone says something. |
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| 11:59.31 | postgres | pozic: I didn't need more... I like exactly what's there |
| 11:59.58 | pozic | I think the model is fundamentally broken, but that's just me. |
| 12:00.28 | pozic | Completion needs to be implemented per application. If there would have been an API to do completions, there would have been no such problem. |
| 12:00.29 | Bambi_BOFH | frigging heck. i have 300MB+ of temp files just to try and run debmirror |
| 12:01.03 | pozic | Lack of standards always introduces extra work and results in low-quality products. |
| 12:01.03 | postgres | what's interesting tho, is there is ace and there is AceLan... when I type ace, I don't want something automatically assuming I meant something else... it's just annoying |
| 12:01.26 | pozic | It's also fairly off-topic. |
| 12:01.36 | postgres | is it in debian? |
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| 12:01.42 | postgres | if so, no it isn't. |
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| 12:03.26 | postgres | we agree about the api thing |
| 12:03.41 | wasge | hello, I installed debian with only the first DVD, is it possible to install debian with only the first CD (i have a old computer without DVD) |
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| 12:03.54 | wols_ | wasge: yes |
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| 12:04.08 | wols_ | you can install debian with a 150MB netinst iso if you want |
| 12:04.18 | maligor | if it has a network connection anyway |
| 12:04.25 | pozic | And the worst thing is that Smalltalk already had a meta-system working 30 years ago. |
| 12:04.34 | tralala | that is if you want only a base installation |
| 12:04.56 | postgres | what's a meta system? |
| 12:04.59 | pozic | It is as if people want to do things in the most arcane way possible. |
| 12:05.13 | wasge | ok, with the first CD, will i have a desktop? |
| 12:05.20 | tralala | wasge, yes |
| 12:05.35 | wasge | ok, tanks |
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| 12:05.42 | postgres | wasge: is there a supported net connection on that machine? |
| 12:05.50 | wasge | no |
| 12:05.57 | pozic | How do I convince Google Earth that I want a smaller fontsize? I already lowered the value in all find -name '*size' files. |
| 12:06.05 | postgres | hmm, then you'd probably need a cd |
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| 12:06.22 | postgres | is it that it will never be connected? |
| 12:06.37 | postgres | or that the net card is hard to get supported? |
| 12:06.50 | wasge | i will need ndiswrapper to make a wi-fi pc-card work |
| 12:07.17 | postgres | ndiswrapper and a windows driver? |
| 12:07.30 | maligor | what card is it? |
| 12:07.30 | wasge | yes, this is the only way i found |
| 12:07.38 | wols_ | wasge: depends on the wlan chip |
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| 12:08.10 | wasge | "KTI Networks wireless lan product" |
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| 12:08.17 | Fiskah | I'll like to get to know iptables and make a specific ruleset etc |
| 12:08.28 | wols_ | wasge: that is no chip |
| 12:08.36 | Fiskah | Doing that I want to make sure that if I lock myself out I can "reset" it... |
| 12:08.44 | wasge | yes, i don't know exactly the chip |
| 12:08.48 | postgres | Fiskah: look at rustys unreliable guides |
| 12:08.51 | wols_ | wasge: then find out |
| 12:08.59 | Fiskah | So how do I make sure that iptables does not start when I boot? |
| 12:09.12 | postgres | does it start now? |
| 12:09.20 | tralala | Fiskah, it doesn't |
| 12:09.26 | wols_ | Fiskah: it won't start nless you make i |
| 12:09.26 | wols_ | t |
| 12:09.45 | postgres | and that involves running update-rc.d |
| 12:09.48 | postgres | ever did that? |
| 12:10.06 | wols_ | postgres: now tell me what init script deals with iptables |
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| 12:10.31 | postgres | the iptables package installed one |
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| 12:10.42 | postgres | I'm not sure why... |
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| 12:11.04 | postgres | I thought the reason was to allow someone to make their own ruleset |
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| 12:11.19 | wols_ | postgres: there is no init script for iptables |
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| 12:11.41 | cedric3 | hi i want to use paltalk but i have not found a package debian who can help me please |
| 12:11.54 | postgres | then it was in a previous version of debian |
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| 12:12.19 | Fiskah | Hmm. How do I see if iptables is started at the moment? |
| 12:12.23 | cedric3 | nobody have any idea? |
| 12:12.53 | wols_ | Fiskah: iptables -L |
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| 12:12.57 | wols_ | cedric3: compile it yourself |
| 12:13.19 | wasge | wols_: i have a Marvell Technology Group LTD. 88w8335 [Libertas] 802.11b/g Wireless (rev 03) |
| 12:13.34 | wols_ | wasge: ndiswrapper |
| 12:13.36 | postgres | cedric3: find the source, read the documentation and build instructions, satisify the build requirements, build it, install it somewhere other than where debian puts its packages (/usr/local is a good place, so is your home dir) |
| 12:13.41 | Fiskah | wols_: That just gives me a number of rules but nothing saying if its active or not |
| 12:13.49 | wols_ | Fiskah: it does |
| 12:14.10 | wols_ | Fiskah: the linux packet filter is built into every debiabn kernel. it always is "active" |
| 12:14.31 | Fiskah | oh okay. Well then I might wanna not add deny all right now ;-) |
| 12:14.42 | wasge | ¿is ndiswrapper on the first CD of debian? |
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| 12:14.48 | wols_ | wasge: no |
| 12:14.59 | postgres | Fiskah: if you add any rules to the iptables structures, then they are active. |
| 12:15.07 | Fiskah | okay :) |
| 12:15.09 | wasge | how can i get ndiswrapper? |
| 12:15.21 | wols_ | wasge: from debian repos |
| 12:15.22 | postgres | they are active the second they are inserted |
| 12:15.33 | Fiskah | is there any way I can turn iptables OFF? |
| 12:15.46 | postgres | iptables -F |
| 12:15.51 | Fiskah | (im looking for a way to get back in if I accidentally lock myself out) |
| 12:15.55 | postgres | that will remove all rules |
| 12:16.05 | postgres | be SURE you KNOW what you're doing. |
| 12:16.21 | Nismorack | I'm trying to install python2.5 and make it play nice with Apache2. Any suggestions? |
| 12:16.24 | wols_ | Fiskah: don't configure it and keep it like it is. iptables can't be turned off or on. it's a frontend nothing more |
| 12:16.30 | wasge | ok, I will try to download a .deb in my computer and use a pendrive to get it on the laptop |
| 12:16.39 | Fiskah | im just getting to know the stuff on a dev server |
| 12:17.22 | postgres | most machines that are not routers don't need iptables rules at all... |
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| 12:17.57 | wasge | tanks, bye |
| 12:18.04 | tralala | some users however as so paranoid they put firewall rules on offline machines |
| 12:18.28 | cedric3 | wols_ postgres : thanks i search the source and compil this thanks |
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| 12:21.12 | amoe | is it okay to attach text files in a message to debian-user? |
| 12:21.32 | amoe | stops the message body from getting cluttered with logfiles and such |
| 12:21.51 | tralala | if they are reasonably small I suppose yes |
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| 12:22.23 | postgres | cedric3: things that would be handy to know... the parts of your compiler, how they fit together, what each one produces from what input and how they function in concert to produce executables |
| 12:22.35 | tralala | anyway plenty of email readers will display the text attachements in the message body |
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| 12:24.08 | wimpies | hi all, is there a way to reboot from linux and specify a different than default grub menu entry to reboot into ? |
| 12:24.27 | wimpies | I.e. I want to boot from linux into console mode without having the menu ask for it ... but only once |
| 12:24.44 | postgres | you'd have to alter the /boot/grub/default file |
| 12:25.07 | Nismorack | How do I install a program/package that is not in the standard package list? (in this case a newer version of the package) |
| 12:25.27 | postgres | you'd also have to make sure the grub config file you're using has default safed |
| 12:25.31 | postgres | saved |
| 12:25.54 | postgres | if you only want to do it once, then back up the default file and restore it |
| 12:26.24 | postgres | the only thing left informationwise is for you to find out the format of the default file |
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| 12:26.53 | wimpies | so there is no 'simple' reboot -into OPTION or something ... |
| 12:26.54 | wols_ | !tell Nismorack about backport |
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| 12:27.26 | _empa___ | is there a fix for this issue? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=464834 |
| 12:27.35 | postgres | wimpies: before you make that statement, look into it |
| 12:27.38 | _empa___ | it makes booting my computer extreme slow, up to 2 min. |
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| 12:27.45 | feighm | When is 5.0 ready? |
| 12:27.55 | postgres | ready for what? |
| 12:28.32 | wols_ | !tell feighm about siyh |
| 12:28.53 | postgres | hawaii 5.0? |
| 12:29.02 | Nismorack | Thanks wols, but not what I was looking for. |
| 12:30.03 | feighm | Must be early. What time is it? I don't have a clock. |
| 12:30.04 | HawkeV | Nismorack: you mean from a newer version of debian? |
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| 12:30.26 | nonpremium | is there any *newbie friendly* way I can download stuff from rapidshare using wget? I have to point out that I am NOT a premium account holder |
| 12:30.33 | feighm | Will 5.0 incorporate Virtual hosting? |
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| 12:30.57 | wols_ | debian has virtual hosting already, for quite some time |
| 12:30.58 | postgres | there are so many ways to do that |
| 12:31.02 | feighm | nonpremium: maybe bash documentation @ tldp.org. |
| 12:31.25 | Nismorack | HawkeV, No. I'm running Etch. HOwever I require Python2.5 for my websites. Which requires the newest versions of mod_python and python-mysql. The default versions are still for 2.4 |
| 12:31.34 | HawkeV | ah |
| 12:31.41 | feighm | wols_: Xen, Virtuozzo? |
| 12:31.42 | HawkeV | then yeah, you'll need to pin if you want to apt-get install it |
| 12:31.43 | HawkeV | http://wiki.debian.org/AptPinning |
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| 12:32.07 | wols_ | !info xen |
| 12:32.24 | Nismorack | Ah thanks. |
| 12:32.27 | HawkeV | bp |
| 12:32.29 | HawkeV | *np |
| 12:32.31 | postgres | feighm: you may have to stay with 2.6.18 to get dom0 support |
| 12:32.32 | Nismorack | I'll look into it. |
| 12:32.37 | wols_ | feighm: xen is already in etch, virtuozzo is proprietary shitware. will never be in debian |
| 12:32.40 | Nismorack | That's better than manually trying to make. >.> |
| 12:32.41 | postgres | they're working on it |
| 12:32.53 | _empa___ | anyone familiar with the bug i posted? |
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| 12:33.04 | wols_ | Nismorack: fast way to break your packagemanagement |
| 12:33.17 | Nismorack | Aye. |
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| 12:33.31 | feighm | I'm curious how Virtualization actually acts in a Server environment. |
| 12:33.40 | Nismorack | Though it does annoy me that it's not python2.5 by default. |
| 12:33.54 | feighm | You're root, but only root of your own /home directory? |
| 12:34.18 | HawkeV | eh, not really the right way to look at it |
| 12:34.18 | feighm | sorry to be off-topic. I don't have a channel searcher. |
| 12:34.32 | postgres | look into backports, if the python you want is not there you can probably get it |
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| 12:35.25 | postgres | feighm: that kind of virtualization provides you whth a full system |
| 12:35.29 | varlon | hi. I'm using Dark grey GTK theme in my Gnome (Debian Lenny) and want to edit macros in OpenOffice 2.4 Calc Basic. So, in OO preference dialog I set white color for background, close a OO, and open again. In Basic Editor background Still dark grey. Can I to do something with this? |
| 12:36.21 | feighm | postgres: a full system within a system or a chrooted system within a host? |
| 12:36.49 | feighm | Virtualization in explanation is a bit abstract. |
| 12:37.06 | postgres | you get a virtual machine |
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| 12:37.22 | feighm | I don't have the bends to test sorry. |
| 12:38.05 | postgres | in which you start an operating system which mounts storage volumes, runs a kernel and is running under a hypervisor |
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| 12:38.30 | Nismorack | It's not in backports. |
| 12:38.34 | feighm | storage volumes on /srv? I'll look up hypervisor. |
| 12:38.35 | Nismorack | They are in Lenny however. |
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| 12:38.49 | wols_ | !tell Nismorack about ssb |
| 12:39.12 | postgres | feighm: I'd suggest you play with it |
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| 12:40.03 | Misterjos | !lenny |
| 12:40.04 | dpkg | methinks lenny is the codename for the next Debian release, currently testing. To upgrade to lenny, ask me about <etch->lenny>. Lenny is the binoculars. Lenny will be known as version 5.0 and the schedule is set for release in Sept 2008 (but ask me about <wwlr>). A <moving target>. See also <testing> and <lenny status>. |
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| 12:40.25 | postgres | if you want to try xen, the first step is to install and boot a hypervisor which then boots the dom0 |
| 12:40.52 | postgres | once you're there, you can try forming and starting virtual servers |
| 12:41.22 | q^ | i forwarded port 20 21 from the gateway to a local ftp server in order to connect from outside , but it gives error when connecting |
| 12:41.41 | q^ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:42.12 | tralala | q^, make sure you use passive mode |
| 12:42.14 | feighm | postgres: are VMs "emulated?" |
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| 12:42.31 | postgres | that depends on your cpu |
| 12:42.56 | feighm | I'm thinking of the popular virtual machine from a while back. |
| 12:42.58 | feighm | for Windows. |
| 12:43.48 | postgres | for xen, you look at the cpu flags, amd and intel have two different ones that enable real virtualization (not emulating) |
| 12:44.02 | postgres | I forget what the names of the flags are |
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| 12:44.15 | feighm | VMWare. |
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| 12:44.56 | feighm | VMWare seems emulated. It looked slow when trying to boot a dual Linux/Win. |
| 12:45.11 | feighm | in Linux from Win. |
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| 12:45.53 | q^ | tralala> ?? |
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| 12:46.16 | postgres | I'm not sure vmware can do the nonemulated virtualization |
| 12:46.33 | postgres | I do know xen can |
| 12:46.39 | tralala | q^, configure your ftp client to use passive mode, otherwise it tries to use many different ports that are not forwarded. |
| 12:47.05 | postgres | and others too, neither xen nor vmware are the only game in towh |
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| 12:47.37 | q^ | tralala> i use cuteftp ? from where i do that |
| 12:47.54 | tralala | I don't know |
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| 12:49.22 | mathbr | Hi there. Can somebody explain to me how it is possible to have a symlink with exactly the same name as its destination and both in the same directory? |
| 12:49.51 | avu | mathbr, it isn't. |
| 12:49.59 | jelly | mathbr: a symlink to itself? easily |
| 12:50.14 | avu | not with exactly the same name in the same directory.. |
| 12:50.17 | mathbr | This is what /usr/share/myspell/dicts looks like: http://pastebin.com/m735e7fc6 |
| 12:50.17 | mathbr | Can someone explain this to me? |
| 12:50.21 | postgres | that would be a recursive nightmare :) |
| 12:51.06 | avu | ah, ok, just the simlink, not both the simlink and its desitnation |
| 12:51.16 | jelly | mathbr: what seems to be the issue, here? |
| 12:51.37 | postgres | mathbr: they are not the same names |
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| 12:52.08 | mathbr | Urgh, I did not notice the "-" and "_"... |
| 12:52.44 | mathbr | Now my world is alright again. Thanks for pointing me at this. ;-) |
| 12:52.53 | mathbr | to |
| 12:52.57 | postgres | you're a math guy :) details are your life :) |
| 12:53.25 | mathbr | No math guy, just my given name (Mathias) ;-) |
| 12:54.15 | postgres | oh, ok :) |
| 12:54.15 | mathbr | Anyways, thanks and bye! :-) |
| 12:54.15 | postgres | in that case... when it comes to filesystems, there are details... like, (without corrupting), |
| 12:54.28 | postgres | you can't have more than one thing of the same name in the same dir |
| 12:54.49 | mathbr | postgres: Yeah, this way my understanding up until now. |
| 12:55.03 | mathbr | was, geez |
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| 12:55.23 | mathbr | That's why I was confused. |
| 12:56.00 | postgres | having said that... there do exist trees whose nodes have names that are not unique in their level and position |
| 12:56.11 | postgres | but not filesystem trees |
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| 12:57.11 | mathbr | I see. Thanks again. Bye. ;-) |
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| 13:00.34 | Nismorack | Yay. I broke apt-get. |
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| 13:00.51 | postgres | uhoh :) |
| 13:01.09 | Nismorack | Apparently Dynamic MMap ran out of room. |
| 13:01.22 | nkuttler | Nismorack: /msg dpkg dynamic mmap |
| 13:02.30 | postgres | is exhausted... nite all |
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| 13:03.39 | endschranz | hi, can anyone recommend me a lightweight http proxy with password protection? |
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| 13:05.19 | tralala | endschranz, wwwoffle is lightweight, I don't remember if it has auth support. |
| 13:05.28 | niko | Hi all, i am on lenny live and i don't know the root password :/ someone can help me please ? |
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| 13:05.47 | tralala | niko, try sudo su |
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| 13:05.58 | plundra | sudo -s! |
| 13:06.01 | varlon | sudo passwd :) |
| 13:06.43 | niko | thx :-D |
| 13:07.44 | DustyDingo | hm, can anyone see, why my xserver keeps crashing? http://rantanplan.org/~aurel/Xorg.0.log |
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| 13:08.45 | DustyDingo | there are no errors, only warnings: (WW) intel: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:1) found |
| 13:09.03 | tarzeau | DustyDingo: can you check the busid number with the lspci -n output? |
| 13:10.11 | tralala | DustyDingo, does it just exit when you start it? |
| 13:10.31 | endschranz | tralala: ok trying |
| 13:11.27 | DustyDingo | 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 |
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| 13:12.28 | riot | hi |
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| 13:13.02 | riot | i'm having trouble with my frequency scaling on my workstation. All the acpi/cpufreq modules are loaded, powersaved is installed and i told it to switch to powersave - yet nothing happens. |
| 13:13.33 | tralala | riot, perhaps your cpu doesn't support scaling |
| 13:13.50 | riot | tralala: a Q6600? Sure it does. |
| 13:14.06 | riot | i even have all the cpufreq stuff in /sys/devices/system/cpu* |
| 13:14.24 | tralala | riot, paste the output of "lsmod" to http://rafb.net/paste |
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| 13:14.25 | riot | and right now, i think its wasting quite a lot of energy |
| 13:15.19 | riot | http://rafb.net/p/iZuB7E54.html there you go. |
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| 13:15.56 | DustyDingo | tralala: the xorg.cong is generated by dpkg, but i use an old one. dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg creates a nearly empty config without video settings |
| 13:15.58 | amphi | riot: you probably want the ondemand governator |
| 13:16.06 | riot | amphi: its loaded |
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| 13:16.30 | amphi | riot: what does 'cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor' say? |
| 13:16.33 | riot | amphi: powersaved is set to use powersave right now, which should scale even more aggressive |
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| 13:16.54 | riot | amphi: performance |
| 13:16.55 | amphi | powersave forces it to the lowest freq all the time, AFAIK |
| 13:16.58 | aNOOBisa | I have a rather noob question: when should I use a System User vs a Normal User! |
| 13:17.01 | amphi | riot: d'oh ;) |
| 13:17.13 | riot | amphi: yes. Why, but why.. |
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| 13:17.38 | amphi | riot: there's no need for cpufreqd IMHO; just do 'echo ondemand > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor' |
| 13:17.42 | riot | i've tried all the cpufreq-related packages, none of them set it correctly |
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| 13:17.51 | riot | amphi: sure, but thats inconvenient :) |
| 13:17.52 | tralala | riot, I'd try leaving only the cpufreq-userspace module. The others perhaps are standing in the way |
| 13:17.58 | aNOOBisa | if I want to run, lets say a tomcat, should I use a system user under which the tomca runs or a normal user? |
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| 13:18.03 | riot | tralala: good idea, i'll unload it |
| 13:18.10 | riot | them.. |
| 13:18.17 | Johnramb00 | Help: WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFCATION HAS CHANGED! |
| 13:18.20 | amphi | riot: just set it yourself by sysfs; you can add an entry to /etc/sysfs.conf to have it set at boottime |
| 13:18.36 | Johnramb00 | I get this error message while trying to log on my vServer :( |
| 13:18.53 | amphi | riot: I would just use ondemand - that's the governor that intel recommends |
| 13:19.17 | riot | uh, i just put ondemand in there and still nothing happens.. wtf |
| 13:19.30 | DustyDingo | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg produces this: http://rantanplan.org/~aurel/xorg.conf |
| 13:19.32 | riot | amphi: yeah, i'm having good experiences with ondemand on all my notebooks |
| 13:19.50 | DustyDingo | can i fix this, or how could i generate a working config? |
| 13:19.55 | wols_ | DustyDingo: normal from lenny onwards |
| 13:19.56 | amphi | riot: catting scaling_governor shows 'ondemand'? |
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| 13:20.01 | riot | oh, wait.. gkrellm seems to lie |
| 13:20.07 | riot | amphi: yes |
| 13:20.08 | wols_ | DustyDingo: supposedly that is a working one |
| 13:20.34 | riot | aah, no. there are four cpus and i just switched ONE core to ondemand.. hmmhmm |
| 13:20.46 | amphi | riot: but freq is not reduced? in that case, [h]top should show what's eating the cpu |
| 13:21.01 | amphi | riot: powertop might also be of use |
| 13:21.11 | amphi | riot: ah |
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| 13:22.08 | riot | hmhmm.. i wonder, where the gkrellm plugin gets its info from |
| 13:22.14 | amphi | riot: four cpus, or four cores? |
| 13:22.49 | riot | amphi: its a q6600 core 2 quad |
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| 13:23.03 | riot | so i have cpu[0|1|2|3] |
| 13:23.04 | amphi | riot: sysfs perhaps? [...]/cpuN/scaling_cur_freq |
| 13:23.23 | riot | no, all those say 1.6 ghz. |
| 13:23.27 | amphi | riot: on a c2d, cpu1's settings are just symlinked to cpu0 |
| 13:23.42 | riot | and it displays varying numbers, too.. all around 2,4 ghz |
| 13:24.52 | amphi | riot: did you cat scaling_governor for all of them? |
| 13:25.54 | riot | amphi: yes |
| 13:26.13 | DustyDingo | wols_: no, this config isn't working |
| 13:26.20 | riot | all set to ondemand, all are (according to the relevant scaling_cur_freq) running at 1.6 ghz |
| 13:26.27 | riot | weird |
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| 13:27.34 | riot | and its switching on demand, too |
| 13:27.59 | Nismorack | Hmmm... mmap keeps being out of room. And it also fails at the same package. Odd. |
| 13:28.31 | asg | Nismorack: /msg dpkg dynamic mmap |
| 13:28.39 | Nismorack | Did that. ;-) |
| 13:28.44 | Nismorack | Note it 'keeps' being out of room. |
| 13:29.00 | Nismorack | Unless it's not parsing the command I added. |
| 13:29.02 | Nismorack | which is also likely. |
| 13:29.48 | DustyDingo | wols_: i doubt that this config would work on any system ;) |
| 13:29.50 | tralala | riot, try cpufrequtils for (hopefully) correct info |
| 13:30.33 | riot | tralala: just did so. |
| 13:30.46 | riot | tralala: all as i wish. hmm. i'm just gonna ignore that gkrellm-info |
| 13:30.52 | riot | yet, its a bug somehow |
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| 13:32.46 | tralala | also lmsensors might give frequency info |
| 13:32.59 | tralala | they do for me at least |
| 13:33.15 | Nismorack | Ah there we go. |
| 13:33.26 | Nismorack | List updated succesfully. |
| 13:33.28 | Nismorack | Now the fun part. |
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| 13:35.50 | aronofsky | Hi guys, I need to have an automated switch from one window to another ( or on dsktop to another ) on regular time basis, to keep an eye on different monitoring tools display on a big screen ... is there any tools to do that ? |
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| 13:37.07 | Nismorack | Alright, I'm almost there. |
| 13:37.10 | riot | i'm contacting the author of gkrellm2-x86info... he seems to use some obscure method to calculate cpu-speeds instead of asking the kernel... |
| 13:37.15 | Nismorack | The default version of python is now 2.5 |
| 13:37.23 | mrAZ | hi, if i boot laptop without pcmcia card inserted, it gets stuck on starting hald. i found couple of postings about it, but not really answer. anybody has an idea ? |
| 13:37.34 | Nismorack | Hmmm... |
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| 13:39.56 | riot | eek, he measures that. Uaah. |
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| 13:40.15 | andinator | hi |
| 13:40.17 | riot | omfg. Using a timer and, probably a scalpel |
| 13:40.44 | riot | *fixes* |
| 13:40.56 | andinator | where can i find the setting, which is also asked during a standarf debian installation, as default containing "lan" ? |
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| 13:41.14 | andinator | meaning something.lan |
| 13:41.40 | Nismorack | I do believe I've got it. |
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| 13:41.59 | Nismorack | Either or I just broke my server. >.> |
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| 13:42.34 | cetko | i asked this question on iptables channel but nobody answered... which modules are required to get tftp working? |
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| 13:45.52 | tralala | cetko, there appears to be plenty of information on the net |
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| 13:46.53 | Nismorack | does the victory dance. |
| 13:47.01 | diogo | hey, have a question... is the xorg 1.5 pre release and the mesa 7.1 that are on the experimental repo functional... tried these on the other distros and got no result? |
| 13:47.54 | Nismorack | Big thanks to wols_, postgres and other who helped. |
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| 13:51.16 | amphi | aronofsky: you could use cron and wmctrl perhaps |
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| 13:51.56 | Blackhold | hello, could someone help me please? |
| 13:52.21 | Blackhold | I get continuously this message: program arkdev is using a deprecated SCSI ioctl, please convert it to SG_IO |
| 13:52.34 | Blackhold | does anyone knows what does it mean? |
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| 13:54.34 | wols_ | don't use the program arkdev? |
| 13:54.49 | asg | Blackhold: it means the program is using a system call that will not be available in some future kernel. |
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| 13:55.14 | tralala | so unless the author fixes it, it will stop working at some point |
| 13:55.16 | Blackhold | uh... and how to solve it? |
| 13:55.40 | tralala | Blackhold, file a bugreport |
| 13:55.42 | asg | Blackhold: wait for the upstream author to fix it or submit a patch. |
| 13:55.49 | Blackhold | ok |
| 13:55.57 | Blackhold | gonna contact with the developer |
| 13:56.00 | Blackhold | thanks you much |
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| 14:13.56 | [ShapeShifter] | hola |
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| 14:24.23 | octoserver | where can i disable artsd? |
| 14:25.16 | tralala | octoserver, in kontrol |
| 14:25.35 | octoserver | KDE Control CXenter? |
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| 14:25.39 | octoserver | Center |
| 14:26.08 | octoserver | i dont have kontrol |
| 14:27.18 | octoserver | i dont see it anywhere under sound system? |
| 14:27.47 | tralala | the control center, yes |
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| 14:31.47 | octoserver | whats the difference between artsd and alsa ? |
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| 14:32.31 | mans | hi all, how do i open file that has .1 extension ? like wtmp.1 ? |
| 14:32.34 | cast | a few minutes on wikipedia |
| 14:32.36 | avu | octoserver, that's a bit like what's the difference between a car and gas :) |
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| 14:32.43 | octoserver | lol |
| 14:32.46 | mans | if i try cat i get "binary file" |
| 14:32.48 | cast | mans: less wtmp.1 |
| 14:33.06 | dcestari | hello all, why does the pc speaker buzzez when I unloaded the module allready? |
| 14:33.11 | mans | cast: binary file... |
| 14:33.16 | cast | mans: ahh, binary huh. .1 normally means its the old wtmp file or wmtp was already taken |
| 14:33.16 | matheus_ | hi |
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| 14:33.31 | cast | mans: what's file wtmp.1 say? |
| 14:33.44 | mans | cast: i am talking about wtmp.1 :D |
| 14:33.45 | asg | mans: man 5 wtmp (to learn about what that file is used for) |
| 14:34.05 | mans | asg: wtmp.1 is backup of last month wtmp file |
| 14:34.10 | mans | right ? |
| 14:34.14 | asg | mans: yes |
| 14:34.40 | asg | mans: you could view the contents of it with 'last -f /var/log/wtmp.1' |
| 14:34.41 | mans | ok, now i want to know is there any way to read wtmp.1 file ? which is binary |
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| 14:34.56 | mans | asg: you teh man :D |
| 14:34.59 | mans | thx |
| 14:35.00 | petemc | mans: last -f |
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| 14:35.13 | petemc | ah, im too late |
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| 14:35.40 | cast | asg: good call ^_^ |
| 14:36.07 | dudeman | dudes! |
| 14:36.11 | dudeman | whats up! |
| 14:36.31 | dudeman | any know a good php ide in linux? |
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| 14:37.32 | pogay | somebody knows how to define a alias mailuser in *exim* (with exim4, splitted configfile). Actually I like to root mail and info to an existing system user. |
| 14:38.04 | asg | pogay: just put the aliases in /etc/aliases |
| 14:38.16 | petemc | pogay: /etc/alaises, provided you chose a config that does local deliveries |
| 14:39.16 | dudeman | anyone |
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| 14:39.28 | pogay | petemc: o.k. I try with the full names in aliases... |
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| 14:40.06 | abrotman | dudeman: bluefish in gnome .. maybe kate in kde? |
| 14:40.26 | dudeman | ahhhh bluefish |
| 14:40.33 | dudeman | I had totally forgotten about that one |
| 14:40.46 | abrotman | there's eclipse if you can find a plugin you like |
| 14:40.48 | dudeman | I'd been trying to work with php-mode.el but emacs is proving to be a bit too much for me |
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| 14:41.02 | dudeman | abrotman, I tried that, but the fonts are rendered horribly, it looks so ugly its not even funny |
| 14:41.03 | abrotman | vim has php syntax highlighting ... |
| 14:41.14 | petemc | plus its the one true editor |
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| 14:41.21 | dudeman | well, I also need syntax/function/keywrod/variable (what I typed previously) completion |
| 14:41.22 | abrotman | dudeman: you probably need some gtk libraries for eclipse .. can't say for certain |
| 14:41.27 | dudeman | and pref. autocompletion |
| 14:41.34 | asg | !be ed |
| 14:41.34 | dpkg | ? |
| 14:41.39 | abrotman | heh |
| 14:41.44 | dudeman | abrotman, wasn't it the java jvm doing the rendering |
| 14:41.51 | dudeman | (eclipse is java based no?) |
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| 14:42.09 | abrotman | dudeman: but i think it uses gtk .. NFC .. been awhile since i used it |
| 14:42.16 | gnittor | dudeman, i'm using geany (gtk) |
| 14:42.17 | asg | dudeman: yes but it also can use gtk bindings to make the interface a lot better |
| 14:42.20 | abrotman | yes .. but java would be using the gtk |
| 14:42.22 | dudeman | geany? |
| 14:42.27 | gnittor | yes |
| 14:42.29 | dudeman | I see |
| 14:42.44 | gnittor | i write in c now but it has syntax & autocpmpletion |
| 14:43.00 | dudeman | btw I'm fasting today |
| 14:43.07 | dudeman | 1st day of ramada, and I'm ready hungry ! |
| 14:43.11 | abrotman | wrong channel |
| 14:43.20 | dudeman | geany looks nice! |
| 14:43.43 | dudeman | what about a php debugger? |
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| 14:43.53 | gnittor | dont know |
| 14:43.59 | dudeman | something that uses php5-cli and links up |
| 14:44.11 | dudeman | etc. etc., hopefully and/or pref. remotely |
| 14:44.15 | octoserver | ok, so i disabled the sound system, that shut down artsd right? |
| 14:44.19 | dcestari | !dpkg pcspkr |
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| 14:44.35 | dudeman | dcestari, /msg dpkg blacklist |
| 14:44.41 | octoserver | so i dont need that to play mp3s or cd or anything else ? |
| 14:44.42 | pogay | petemc: I tried like this mail@alltagswaerme.ch: alltagsw@alltagswaerme.ch (a |
| 14:45.00 | abrotman | debugger? you just run the script .. it either dies or doesn't :) |
| 14:45.01 | dudeman | octoserver, arts is a piece of donkey poo |
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| 14:45.06 | dudeman | lol |
| 14:45.12 | dudeman | I mean something like |
| 14:45.14 | dudeman | !gubed |
| 14:45.15 | zepolen | is there a command-not-found package for debian etch? |
| 14:45.16 | pogay | mail and info are already defined to be rootet to other users locally |
| 14:45.17 | dudeman | ? |
| 14:45.24 | dudeman | zepolen, ? |
| 14:45.30 | zepolen | one that suggests the package to apt-get if you dont have it |
| 14:45.33 | abrotman | zepolen: like in ubuntu ? |
| 14:45.35 | dcestari | dudeman, well, pcspkr is not the problem now, I got rid of it long time ago, but after I upgraded my lenny installation, it keeps making noise even when pcspkr is unloaded. |
| 14:45.38 | zepolen | eg - i want to run md5 'something' |
| 14:45.41 | dudeman | oh |
| 14:45.49 | zepolen | but i forget the actual package that includes md5 |
| 14:45.49 | petemc | pogay: it just looks at the bit before the @ , the local part |
| 14:45.59 | abrotman | zepolen: apt-file search bin/md5 |
| 14:46.00 | dudeman | turn off the system bell? |
| 14:46.11 | dudeman | pc speaker module is the only thing I know of that beeps |
| 14:46.20 | dudeman | lsmod it see if it lists still |
| 14:46.22 | abrotman | dcestari: it might be an app making a bell through alsa ... |
| 14:46.25 | zepolen | abrotman: that returns nothing |
| 14:46.35 | abrotman | zepolen: you have to install apt-file .. and then update it |
| 14:46.38 | zepolen | ok |
| 14:46.41 | petemc | !bell |
| 14:46.41 | dpkg | somebody said bell was "xset b off" in X, or "setterm -blength 0" in console . For some reason, bash beeps excessively when in emacs (default) mode. "set -o vi" puts it in vi editing mode, which doesn't beep on partial completions. See also <shell beep>. or "set bell-style none" in ~/.inputrc, or in konsole, Settings->Bell->Visible Bell |
| 14:46.51 | pogay | i guess the system know the rerouting, but not exim, petemc |
| 14:47.10 | petemc | pogay: i dont follow |
| 14:47.14 | dcestari | oh! is now the "snd_pcsp" module!! |
| 14:47.27 | Fiskah | how do I unpack a tar.bz2 file? |
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| 14:47.29 | pogay | petemc: I work with a virtual domain. |
| 14:47.29 | dudeman | dpkg gubed is http://gubed.mccabe.nu/ - Gubed is a cross platform program to debug PHP scripts. It is not, as some people first believe, a PHP syntax checker. That is, it wont tell you where you forgot to put an ending bracket. |
| 14:47.30 | dpkg | dudeman: okay |
| 14:47.35 | zepolen | sleuthkit |
| 14:47.45 | petemc | pogay: then you'll need to specify an alias file for each |
| 14:48.08 | petemc | domain.. |
| 14:48.23 | dudeman | domain |
| 14:48.25 | asg | Fiskah: /msg dpkg tar |
| 14:49.10 | pogay | petemc: the domain I have a description too, but I don't find out, how I can attach it to a splitted exim4 conf... |
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| 14:49.28 | petemc | pogay: how did you set up virtual domains initially? |
| 14:50.10 | dudeman | whoah... codeigniter! |
| 14:50.20 | pogay | for example here: http://www.exim.org/exim-html-4.30/doc/html/FAQ_4.html#TOC140, petemc |
| 14:50.26 | dudeman | damn... |
| 14:50.53 | petemc | pogay: i know how to configure exim - you seem to indicate you're using debconf tho |
| 14:51.01 | dcestari | quit |
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| 14:51.14 | dudeman | petemc, no you don't. Stop lyin' :) |
| 14:51.29 | petemc | honest i do |
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| 14:51.38 | dudeman | heh |
| 14:51.45 | pogay | the domain is o.k. /etc/exim4/virtual/domainname.tld petemc |
| 14:51.57 | dudeman | so I bought a domain |
| 14:52.06 | dudeman | I think I may run my own mailserver... |
| 14:52.23 | petemc | it can be a pain in the ass |
| 14:52.27 | petemc | let google do it |
| 14:52.33 | dudeman | a pain in the ass? |
| 14:52.35 | dudeman | for me? |
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| 14:52.38 | dudeman | :) |
| 14:52.40 | abrotman | yes |
| 14:52.49 | dudeman | why? |
| 14:52.52 | pogay | petemc: it's very difficult, when the config ist not the same.... there is info in google, but.. |
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| 14:53.40 | petemc | pogay: the debian way of doing things is documented in /use/share/doc/exim* , the exim way of doing it is on exim.org - both sets of documentation could be considered.. complete |
| 14:53.58 | petemc | pogay: i suspect what you want is an how to |
| 14:54.34 | abrotman | or an admin? :) |
| 14:54.42 | petemc | yes :) |
| 14:54.55 | petemc | or google for domains |
| 14:55.16 | petemc | google apps i mean, not searching google for the term "domains" |
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| 14:55.33 | pogay | yeah, with the splitted config, ther is a howto, which seem's to be for a different config...(for example here:http://aron.hakanson.se/cgi-bin/index.pl?sida=virtexim4&sprak=en) |
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| 14:57.20 | dudeman | splitted |
| 14:57.24 | dudeman | is that even a word? |
| 14:57.33 | dudeman | !dict splitted |
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| 14:57.43 | asg | dudeman: it is now that irregular verbs are verboten |
| 14:57.44 | dpkg | i could not get info from dict.org 'alarm at ./src/Modules/Dict.pl line 42. |
| 14:58.03 | pogay | dudeman: have you seen the new exim4 config? urgh... |
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| 14:58.11 | dudeman | dude fuck exim |
| 14:58.15 | petemc | pogay: what are you comparing it to? |
| 14:58.17 | dudeman | overbloated piece of donkey crap |
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| 14:58.30 | dudeman | there are much better mta |
| 14:58.34 | petemc | dudeman: you havent a clue what you're talking about, probably best if you didnt comment |
| 14:58.46 | dudeman | petemc, uhuh |
| 14:59.03 | jpinx | if I rsync from my remote server with preserved permissions to my local ntfs partition - will that filesystem preserve the permissions correctly? |
| 14:59.23 | dudeman | petemc, prove me wrong? |
| 14:59.44 | pogay | petemc: alias.virtual seems clear, might be anywhere /etc/exim4 (because it's mentioned in config as input) |
| 15:00.03 | petemc | dudeman: i dont need to, you're just an idiot mouthing off on irc |
| 15:00.12 | dudeman | :( |
| 15:00.17 | dudeman | petemc, its all your fault anyway |
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| 15:00.39 | pogay | petemc: but just this : domainlist local_domains = @:localhost:lsearch;/etc/exim/domains.virtual (because I don't have exim.conf) |
| 15:01.06 | petemc | pogay: im not sure what you're asking me |
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| 15:01.45 | pogay | petemc: the other line is mentioned to be in exim.conf, but we don't have it in splitted config. |
| 15:02.07 | petemc | pogay: one is a router, the other is a domainlist |
| 15:02.07 | dudeman | In Philip Hazel's own words |
| 15:02.13 | dudeman | "The bottom line is that Exim does not perform particularly well in environments where the queue regularly gets very large. It was never designed for this; deliveries from the queue were always intended to be 'exceptions' rather than the norm." |
| 15:02.32 | abrotman | that doesn't make it bloated or a PoS |
| 15:02.41 | petemc | right, and the bit you're missing is where it says 95% of deliveries are immediate |
| 15:02.58 | asg | that's the case in my environment |
| 15:03.08 | dudeman | well |
| 15:03.13 | petemc | just stop |
| 15:03.14 | dudeman | I learned about postresql last night |
| 15:03.21 | dudeman | perhaps I will change my mind about this |
| 15:03.41 | pogay | petemc: o.k. I found under router vdom_aliases, i'll will work on that... |
| 15:03.45 | dudeman | petemc, to me it seems like a huge software |
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| 15:05.07 | dudeman | petemc, are you familiar with Courier |
| 15:05.25 | abrotman | gets popcorn |
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| 15:05.30 | abrotman | asg: care for some? |
| 15:05.47 | asg | sure, I can't see how 688k is huge software |
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| 15:06.09 | abrotman | asg: when you compare it to KDE, that's like .. wait, no |
| 15:06.20 | dudeman | *sigh* |
| 15:06.33 | dudeman | it would be wise to take that stick out of your asses. |
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| 15:06.41 | asg | abrotman: the relevant comparison is between Mach vs. Linux |
| 15:06.43 | dudeman | or come down off yoru mighty high horse |
| 15:06.46 | abrotman | !info postfix etch |
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| 15:06.49 | harpal | I have accedently done umount /dev, how can I mount it again /dev? |
| 15:06.50 | dudeman | too far up and |
| 15:07.04 | maligor | asg, it's like... 10 times bigger than cp! |
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| 15:07.25 | dpkg | postfix: (A high-performance mail transport agent), section mail, is extra. Version: 2.3.8-2+b1 (etch), Packaged size: 1063 kB, Installed size: 2464 kB |
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| 15:07.33 | dudeman | !start a mta war |
| 15:07.33 | dpkg | smail loses mail |
| 15:07.34 | abrotman | see .. that's small! |
| 15:07.43 | abrotman | :) |
| 15:07.44 | tralala | dudeman, have you actually used exim or are you just ranting based on articles you've read? |
| 15:07.48 | dudeman | yes |
| 15:07.50 | dudeman | I've used it. |
| 15:08.02 | asg | maligor: yes but it can rewrite the RFC 2822 Comment in headers unlike qmail, postfix, and courier ... A useful, if broken, piece of functionality that is required in my environment. |
| 15:08.03 | dudeman | I've used a few of them for a while and I formed my opinion based on experience and usage |
| 15:08.04 | maligor | and you prefer sendmail? |
| 15:08.09 | dudeman | no I do not |
| 15:08.14 | abrotman | makes more popcorn |
| 15:08.59 | asg | abrotman: butter or caramel? |
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| 15:09.03 | tralala | dudeman, and because you found a better solution for _your_ usecase this means you get to trash exim ? |
| 15:09.14 | abrotman | asg: butter i guess |
| 15:09.14 | Nyle | tralala, of course not |
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| 15:09.37 | asg | abrotman: should I have mexicans for lunch? |
| 15:09.42 | asg | s/cans/can/ |
| 15:09.43 | Nyle | tralala, its usually how people talk... but why does my opinion matter so much to everyone that everyone is getting defensive |
| 15:09.53 | Nyle | if you think I 'm a blathering idiot, why does it matter what I say? |
| 15:09.55 | abrotman | asg: sure .. what's the worst that happens :) |
| 15:10.06 | abrotman | Nyle: because you always blather here? :) |
| 15:10.11 | asg | abrotman: day off tomorrow dealing with localized plumbing issues |
| 15:10.19 | abrotman | asg: yes .. you will be :) |
| 15:10.28 | Nyle | I know what I know based on my experience |
| 15:10.32 | Nyle | I say gnome sucks and kde kicks ass |
| 15:10.36 | Nyle | you're gonna get on my ass about that too? |
| 15:10.53 | Nyle | fuck gnome, its a bloated piece of shit.. there I said it.. jump down my throat. |
| 15:10.54 | Nyle | waits |
| 15:10.57 | abrotman | uh .. we could .. but then you'd go on a cursing tirade about how we're all idiots :) |
| 15:11.02 | abrotman | oh wait .. you just did |
| 15:11.17 | tralala | Nyle, have you been smoking again? Honestly? |
| 15:11.23 | Nyle | No. |
| 15:11.49 | jpinx | must be in the popcorn ;) |
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| 15:12.05 | Nyle | I'm just saying, sometimeis your fundamentalism in your favored software is worse than islamic terrorism and/or other screwed up things |
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| 15:12.17 | Nyle | *sigh* |
| 15:12.35 | tralala | you mean like "fuck gnome, its a bloated piece of shit"? |
| 15:12.40 | Nyle | exactly... |
| 15:13.01 | jpinx | Nyle: at the risk of started umpteen other wars - can you define "other screwed up things" |
| 15:13.03 | tralala | I see |
| 15:13.04 | maligor | what about bash? it's clearly a inferior shell |
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| 15:13.11 | jelly | maligor: clearly! |
| 15:13.11 | Nyle | jpinx, no! :) |
| 15:13.22 | Nyle | zsh > * |
| 15:13.34 | tralala | maligor, not as bad as zsh though! |
| 15:13.34 | Nyle | but thats my opinion.. dunno why everyone is geting all worked up over _MY_ opinion... |
| 15:13.44 | Nyle | wow |
| 15:13.54 | et | are old backports stored on backports.org? |
| 15:13.55 | abrotman | because you go on and on .. |
| 15:13.59 | abrotman | et: old backports? |
| 15:14.00 | jelly | Nyle: because you're the one offering free opinions? |
| 15:14.03 | tralala | or should I say not nearly as bad? |
| 15:14.23 | Nyle | tralala, whats wrong with zsh? |
| 15:14.25 | abrotman | et: usually they're replaced for a good reason |
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| 15:14.29 | jpinx | Nyle: don't express them and you'll be free and clear :) |
| 15:14.36 | Nyle | jpinx, ok good idea |
| 15:14.47 | Nyle | but exim is still sucky, and gnome follows it |
| 15:14.48 | Nyle | :D |
| 15:14.57 | abrotman | !ot |
| 15:14.57 | dpkg | Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic (i.e., Debian support), or return to the topic after a short while. #debian-offtopic is the place for longer off-topic discussions. |
| 15:15.04 | Nyle | run. |
| 15:15.04 | abrotman | this is getting out of hand |
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| 15:15.23 | tralala | Nyle, don't mind me, I'm just being a fundamentalist |
| 15:15.32 | Nyle | ahh yes |
| 15:15.35 | Nyle | the biting sarcasm :) |
| 15:15.39 | abrotman | can we stop now? we know nyle will never change .. get over it and move on |
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| 15:15.59 | tralala | indeed, it's better to stop |
| 15:16.07 | Nyle | wow, one sentence can have so much effect on the entire channel |
| 15:16.11 | Nyle | I better watch what I say |
| 15:16.17 | Nyle | apparantly I'm taken very seriously... |
| 15:16.21 | jpinx | yes please - anyone know if ntfs will preserver the permissions I rsync into it? |
| 15:16.26 | Nyle | anyway, im gonna go work on php, take it easy guys |
| 15:16.33 | et | abrotman: ruby 1.8.7 breaks bc with 1.8.6, that's why upstream supplies security updates for both, so i want to get the old source package (so i can use it with the new upstream tarball) |
| 15:16.39 | tralala | jpinx, it should |
| 15:16.47 | jpinx | I need to backup before upping to Etch |
| 15:16.52 | Orbixx | jpinx: Unlikely, though I don't know for sure. |
| 15:16.56 | abrotman | et: /msg sdn .. build it yourself |
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| 15:17.20 | tralala | jpinx, do you have to backup over ntfs? |
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| 15:17.38 | abrotman | yay! |
| 15:17.44 | jpinx | tralala: for an easy days work - yes |
| 15:18.01 | asg | jpinx: if you really need to preserve everything, use something like tar or dump/restore. |
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| 15:18.10 | dudeman | 11:17 !irc.freenode.net *** No identd (auth) response |
| 15:18.15 | dudeman | do I need to install identd? |
| 15:18.24 | jpinx | but it looks uncertain so I'll clear some space on th elocal ext3fs |
| 15:18.50 | tralala | jpinx, you can create an ext3 fs in a file on that ntfs partition |
| 15:18.59 | jpinx | asg: yea - looking at that now - thanks |
| 15:19.29 | tralala | dudeman, no |
| 15:19.34 | jpinx | tralala: really? Didn't think of that :) |
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| 15:20.03 | tralala | jpinx, but unless you have to use rsync, tar is probably better |
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| 15:20.32 | jpinx | tralala: ok - thanks |
| 15:20.40 | tralala | jpinx, you're welcome |
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| 15:26.42 | pogay | petemc: the problem ist, when you havn't read a 1000 Page manual befor, it's not possible to match the configurations:-) |
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| 15:27.05 | petemc | no one said administering a mail server is easy |
| 15:27.26 | petemc | or administrating, whatever |
| 15:27.54 | tralala | but it could be |
| 15:28.15 | pogay | petemc: that's true. I have to find a workaround for my mail@domain.ch, may be to create a real user, with this name. |
| 15:28.21 | tralala | for a moderate setup |
| 15:28.40 | petemc | tralala: not if you want to understand everything that is going on |
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| 15:28.57 | petemc | tralala: it can be done with minimal effort, thats not the same as knowing what you're doing |
| 15:29.31 | tralala | petemc, isn't that the case for anyting? Say driving a car? |
| 15:30.11 | tralala | pogay, or to create an alias? |
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| 15:30.37 | abrotman | petemc: just admit it .. exim loses mail! :) |
| 15:30.56 | pogay | tralala: I mean, I you have to just drive away the car 5m, you don't usually have much practice, but you have to know how you start the motor... |
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| 15:31.17 | helo | the question is whether the skills required to setup a mail server are more analogous to knowing how to fuel the car (important for normal operation), or knowing how to rebuild the engine (not required for normal operation) |
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| 15:31.43 | tralala | pogay, right. Cars aside what's the actual mail problem? |
| 15:31.47 | Coke | Some programs want to build using gl.h, but Debian puts it in GL/gl.h, any easy way to tell the gnu build systems to use GL/gl.h instead? |
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| 15:32.07 | pogay | tralala: in /etc/aliases mail is defined, but the virtual domain of exim, can't route it. |
| 15:32.29 | helo | Coke: the identity substitution as you mention requires no configuration change |
| 15:32.34 | tralala | helo, this would probably depend on how you intend to use the car - go shopping or participate in a f1 race. |
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| 15:33.10 | helo | tralala: so firstly, the mail configuration should ask: "What will you use this mail server for?" (much like it does) |
| 15:33.11 | tralala | Coke, a symlink? |
| 15:33.14 | petemc | tralala: your analogy is flawed anyway, not everyone needs to run a mailserver, that should be left to professionals |
| 15:33.46 | tralala | petemc, okay |
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| 15:33.58 | Coke | helo: by standard most apps seem to add /usr/X11R6/include/GL as additional include path, but not /usr/include/GL |
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| 15:34.25 | Coke | tralala: yeah, but I wonder where the GL libraries _should_ be. Seems to me /usr/include/GL ought to be cool, but a lot of projects disregards it in favour of /usr/X11R6/include/GL |
| 15:34.47 | helo | shoulnd't there be something like "glx-config" that will return the path of the GL includes? |
| 15:34.51 | widiyatmoko | hello |
| 15:35.02 | tralala | there should be |
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| 15:35.19 | Coke | helo: possibly, don't know. |
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| 15:35.33 | et | is it possible to tell dpkg-buildpackage "if a patch fails, leave the file in its pristine state and continue" |
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| 15:35.45 | tralala | Coke, dpkg -L whatever-the-gl-dev | grep bin |
| 15:35.50 | pogay | petemc: I agree, even as IT professional, it's rather critical to run a hosting environment, if only one person has responsibility... |
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| 15:36.53 | cafaro | the highest screenres available is 1024x768, but my screen and vidcard could handle a higher res.. how to change this? |
| 15:37.02 | cafaro | im using GNOME |
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| 15:38.15 | tralala | cafaro, /msg dpkg drxx |
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| 15:39.44 | pogay | I have a resolution problem on an amilo laptop, with a via chip. I guess the drivers are o.k. but, screen is much bigger the the physical screen. Can such an "error" adjusted in xorg.conf? |
| 15:40.36 | tralala | pogay, probably yes |
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| 15:41.19 | pogay | tralala: o.k. then I can try, because until know xorg.conf has no screen information in it. |
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| 15:43.09 | pogay | tralala: it was strange, with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, I only could reconfigure my keyboard... |
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| 15:44.54 | tralala | pogay, then you need someone with testing/unstable experience to help you |
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| 15:45.44 | tralala | iirc xorg had an option to dump the autodetected config |
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| 15:46.11 | pogay | tralala: ah |
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| 16:03.08 | CrippsFX | good day folks ... I just found out that my xserver is using a default configuration (located here: http://www.pastebin.ca/1190582) ... I found this out when trying to use xrandr ... I have an intel x3100 card, and the results of "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" are those located in the config file ... "stripped bare" would probably be a better descriptive term than "default," any help in getting a sane starting p |
| 16:03.09 | CrippsFX | oint would be appreciated. |
| 16:03.13 | Rapp | how do i create a linux-kbuild-* package for my vanilla kernel? |
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| 16:03.50 | Rapp | i have pulled a GIT tree, did a make-kpkg buildpackage, and it builds everything except for the linux-kbuild-* package |
| 16:03.56 | CrippsFX | ... looks like I'm having the same trouble that pogay was having ... |
| 16:04.04 | Rapp | and because of that compilation of external modules fail... |
| 16:04.07 | Rapp | i guess... |
| 16:06.02 | pogay | CrippsFX: it strange: info: sys2@localhost in the virtualhostfile should work... |
| 16:06.49 | CrippsFX | pogay, ? |
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| 16:07.37 | pogay | CrippsFX: i still have the problem... but description seem to say that this should work. |
| 16:08.00 | CrippsFX | interesting. I just upgraded my xorg ... imma see if that works firstt. |
| 16:08.12 | Rapp | anyone? |
| 16:08.41 | pogay | CrippsFX: you talking of screen, not of exim |
| 16:08.50 | CrippsFX | pogay, yeah. |
| 16:09.20 | CrippsFX | no joy on the upgrade though :/ |
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| 16:10.23 | pogay | CrippsFX: I'm wondering, wether it's reliable to copy an xorg.conf (from another installation, or bootable). |
| 16:10.23 | CrippsFX | pogay, with "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" you get something that looks like this: http://www.pastebin.ca/1190582 , yes? |
| 16:10.41 | CrippsFX | probably would be ... if the configuration was mostly complete. |
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| 16:11.55 | pogay | CrippsFX: yeah, and I didn't have a possibility of joy of screen resolution, i guess even to vesa. |
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| 16:12.48 | Larcen_ | hi all |
| 16:12.51 | CrippsFX | pogay, I've got another debian laptop here that I can copy an xorg from, I can paste it once I get it if you'd like. |
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| 16:14.24 | pogay | CrippsFX: I guess, I will try my laptop with a bootable, and look wether the screenresolution is o.k. and the analyse xorg.conf... |
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| 16:15.00 | pogay | CrippsFX: I mean, it depends on the grafic card and screen. |
| 16:15.03 | n-iCe | hello any software to burn images and videos? so i can play them in my home dvd |
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| 16:15.40 | Jewfro-Macabbi | n-iCe, devede, brasero |
| 16:15.57 | CrippsFX | pogay, I've got a n intel x3100, and a 1280x800 screen. |
| 16:15.59 | n-iCe | Jewfro-Macabbi: I use devede but does it burns images and videos as well? |
| 16:16.24 | Jewfro-Macabbi | n-iCe, devede makes a burnable image from videos - use brasero or k3b to burn the image |
| 16:16.45 | n-iCe | uhm |
| 16:16.51 | n-iCe | I want all in one disc |
| 16:16.57 | pogay | CrippsFX: o.k. you can post it, if there is some hw-information in it.... |
| 16:17.42 | pogay | CrippsFX: the screensize would be fine. |
| 16:17.50 | Jewfro-Macabbi | n-iCe, yes on one disc - it's two steps your talking about. Devede takes a bunch of video files and converts that into a format playable on a standard DVD player - but it's not disc burning software - you need brasero or k3b to burn the output from devede to disc |
| 16:18.10 | gkffjcs_ | Hey guys, is there a way to set the desktop folder to a different path, for instance set it to ~/.desktop? Or better yet is there a way to set the desktop folder to a null path? |
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| 16:18.23 | n-iCe | yeah, so I make the videos playable, after that? what, because it creates a .iso |
| 16:18.27 | n-iCe | with the videos |
| 16:18.43 | Jewfro-Macabbi | n-iCe, you use brasero or k3b to burn that iso to disc |
| 16:19.13 | n-iCe | yes, and the photos? |
| 16:19.27 | n-iCe | can i burn the iso and add the photos in brasero? |
| 16:19.45 | Jewfro-Macabbi | n-iCe, I know you can make dvd-photo slideshows, but I've never done it - not familiar with it |
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| 16:20.33 | pogay | n-iCe: brasero is quite easy to use... |
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| 16:21.18 | n-iCe | uhm |
| 16:21.26 | pogay | n-iCe: I used it to burn .iso, / audo-CD's and data CD's |
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| 16:21.40 | n-iCe | You don't understand me, the thing is after create the .iso, i need to select in brasero, burn an iso image, but i cannot add more things to burn, how should I add the photos |
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| 16:23.24 | pogay | n-iCe: I don't wether it works to add further data, via mount -o loop (You can mount an iso). |
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| 16:23.39 | Jewfro-Macabbi | n-iCe, is the iso image a full 4.7 - I know you'd have to have devede not use all the disc space in the iso creation step |
| 16:24.17 | drwahl | i'm trying to setup 2 video cards and 3 monitors on my system. my xorg.conf file and xorg.0.log file are on pastebin. http://pastebin.com/m45c5e072 i'm not sure what is why xorg doesnt seem to like the config. is anyone able to give me some pointers? |
| 16:24.23 | pogay | bye, I have to leave |
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| 16:33.41 | mohadib | hello, im tasked with buying some extrenal backup drives |
| 16:33.55 | mohadib | i read that etch does not work well with hot plug esata |
| 16:34.14 | mohadib | i was wondering if anyone has tried warm plug esata with etch |
| 16:34.22 | mohadib | and if it worked ok for them |
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| 16:35.25 | octoserver_ | how much should your +5 and -5 volts fluctuate |
| 16:35.37 | abrotman | mohadib: there is a newer kernel available for etch if that matters |
| 16:35.54 | mohadib | hmm |
| 16:36.01 | ARF_Lapt1p | yeah a newer kernel probably matters more than anything. |
| 16:36.12 | octoserver_ | one of my read leads came out and hit the chasis and thourhg watch sensors i can see it get down to 1.5 volts once in a while |
| 16:36.13 | mohadib | well, im ok with warm plug, and i hear it works good |
| 16:36.19 | mohadib | just hopinh someone could confirm it |
| 16:36.26 | ARF_Lapt1p | I've hotplugged sata on a slackware 11 machine using a 2.6 kernel |
| 16:37.00 | mohadib | ARF_Lapt1p: ahh, the drive unmounted correctly and the data was sunk?> |
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| 16:37.23 | ARF_Lapt1p | octoserver_: i'd say no more than 0.1v - computer power supplies are supposed to be stable and noise free. |
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| 16:37.46 | lord_rob | Hi ! How should I mount a Mac formated CDROM ? What's its filesystem ? |
| 16:37.50 | ARF_Lapt1p | mohadib: umm no, it's hard to sync and unmount a drive that no longer has power. You still need to unmount it correctly. |
| 16:37.56 | octoserver_ | well, i just ruined my power supply lol |
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| 16:38.01 | octoserver_ | off to get a new one |
| 16:38.08 | mohadib | ARF_Lapt1p: er, no kidding.. |
| 16:38.14 | mohadib | looks for the pedant ribbon |
| 16:38.14 | ARF_Lapt1p | at least they're cheap, octoserver_ |
| 16:38.14 | octoserver_ | my 5 volt is all over the place |
| 16:38.30 | octoserver_ | yea, and i dont need a huge one for this box |
| 16:38.38 | ARF_Lapt1p | octoserver_: you sure your voltmeter isn't pooched? |
| 16:39.01 | ARF_Lapt1p | i have a hard time believing the machine would even RUN with it's 5V rail dipping down to 1.5V |
| 16:39.19 | octoserver_ | well, im watching it through sensors |
| 16:39.31 | octoserver_ | im about to put my volt meter on it too and see |
| 16:39.31 | ARF_Lapt1p | could be your sensors then. |
| 16:39.44 | octoserver_ | it is |
| 16:40.09 | octoserver_ | its at 4.2 then 3.5 then 2.1 then 4.5 and oll over |
| 16:40.18 | ARF_Lapt1p | what the heck... |
| 16:40.52 | ARF_Lapt1p | your motherboard must have some /NICE/ power conditioning circuitry :) |
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| 16:41.36 | ARF_Lapt1p | i've seen machines crash from 0.5V fluctuations from a power supply with bad caps. |
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| 16:42.26 | octoserver_ | well, my volt meter shows it stable |
| 16:42.50 | ARF_Lapt1p | yeah just the sensors then. |
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| 16:43.31 | AbortRetryFail | kicks nickserv in the network interface... |
| 16:43.44 | octoserver_ | why would sensors show it fluctuate so much, but on my other PC it is stable |
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| 16:44.12 | AbortRetryFail | octoserver_: bad sensor chip? |
| 16:44.49 | octoserver_ | maybe i messed up my MB lol |
| 16:44.59 | drwahl | ok, got the 2nd video card working. the 3rd monitor (connected to the 2nd video card) is cutting the picture off on the top and the bottom. is there any way to scale the desktop for an indiviual display? |
| 16:45.03 | AbortRetryFail | of all the things on the motherboard to burn out, that's probably one of the better options :) |
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| 16:47.27 | AbortRetryFail | my fonts are kind of out of whack, but xdpyinfo says 96x96 dpi, anything else i should be looking at? |
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| 16:48.47 | bramp | Hey, so if I can only boot linux on my new laptop when using the ACPI=off as a boot option, how do I figure out why ACPI didn't work? |
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| 16:49.04 | enouf | bramp: i can tell you why |
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| 16:49.24 | enouf | because your BIOS sucks and your OEM DSDT tables suck ass |
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| 16:49.49 | bramp | Well I figured it was my DSDT tables, but looking at guides to create my own, they all assume ACPI is on already |
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| 16:50.00 | enouf | bramp: there are other kernel params that may allow you to use acpi |
| 16:50.25 | bramp | I have tried a big combination of parameters... anonying ACPI was the last one I tried |
| 16:50.26 | enouf | i'm not going to start reciting all 5000 as guesses though |
| 16:50.35 | enouf | using amd64 arch? |
| 16:50.38 | bramp | yup |
| 16:50.50 | [ShapeShifter] | bye |
| 16:50.58 | enouf | there are 'more' params in /Documentation/x86_64/boot-options.txt |
| 16:51.04 | enouf | have a look see |
| 16:51.05 | bramp | would you know a URL with some other paramters? Or a guide to do with ACPI? Google hasn't helped me figuring out how to enable it |
| 16:51.11 | bramp | ah thanks /me looks for that |
| 16:51.17 | enouf | http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.25/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt |
| 16:51.29 | enouf | and navigate there, to where i mentioned |
| 16:52.01 | bramp | thanks, I think I'll go play with options now, and come back if I need more help |
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| 16:59.38 | r-p | Where can i find the compiled kernel modules ? |
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| 17:05.46 | octoserver | can fdisk tell you what fill format is on a partition ? |
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| 17:08.24 | abrotman | fill format? |
| 17:08.27 | abrotman | filesystem? |
| 17:08.30 | octoserver | yea |
| 17:09.00 | octoserver | i am using raid, but i cant remember how to see what filesystem is on a raid partiton other than looking in fstab |
| 17:09.24 | Bladesman | octoserver: mount? |
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| 17:09.28 | bramp | fdisk /dev/hda ... then press p, and in then the last column tells you the file system |
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| 17:09.33 | octoserver | fdisk just said there isnt a valid file system |
| 17:09.40 | octoserver | hmm |
| 17:09.57 | mohadib | fdisk /dev/md0 |
| 17:10.01 | mohadib | then print |
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| 17:10.51 | bramp | octoserver, if you are using raid, then I don't think each partition will start with the correct headers that fdisk uses to identify the parition's file system. |
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| 17:11.51 | octoserver | bramp: yea, it just shows it as linux raid auto detect or something |
| 17:12.05 | mohadib | try to mount it as ext3 |
| 17:12.10 | mohadib | it wont hurt to try to mount it |
| 17:13.07 | mohadib | maybe just try to mount without passing a fs |
| 17:13.20 | octoserver | well, they are all mounted, I just wanted to see what they were and thought there was a command that could tell me but i forgpt |
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| 17:13.29 | mohadib | octoserver: mount |
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| 17:13.35 | mohadib | or df -h |
| 17:13.48 | mohadib | bouth tell you what FS the disk is using |
| 17:14.01 | mohadib | er not df -h :s |
| 17:14.03 | mohadib | just mount |
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| 17:15.22 | Jorophose | msg dpkg dsa1571 |
| 17:15.30 | Jorophose | sorry. |
| 17:15.33 | Jorophose | silly me. |
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| 17:15.37 | Wyzard | octoserver: "Linux RAID autodetect" is the type code in the partition table, which doesn't actually tell you anything about the partition's contents |
| 17:15.41 | simonrvn | hands Jorophose a / |
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| 17:16.44 | Jorophose | how long does the debian installer take to finish on a relatively slow system (celeron 500mhz w/192MB of RAM)? xubuntu 6.06 took like a halfhour/hour to finish, so I'm thinking it'd be the same? |
| 17:16.46 | Wyzard | octoserver: Linux software RAID puts the superblock at the end of the partition, so if it's a RAID-1 you can just look at the partition and you'll see the filesystem -- you can even mount it, but don't mount it read-write |
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| 17:17.04 | mohadib | its already mounted |
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| 17:17.06 | simonrvn | Jorophose: give or take |
| 17:17.11 | mohadib | so just type mount |
| 17:17.19 | AbortRetryFail | Jorophose: installing lenny off the XFCE disc tool me about 45 minutes on my p3 650mhz laptop. |
| 17:17.22 | Wyzard | octoserver: If it's any other RAID level, it's striped, so the only way to see the contents is through the RAID driver when you assemble the array |
| 17:17.28 | Jorophose | ok, thanks guys. |
| 17:17.47 | Jorophose | AbortRetryFail: How long does it take to boot? That's pretty much the set up I'm heading for, sans the P3. |
| 17:17.50 | ArthurM | blubberdiblub: Hey... just wanted to let you know I finally got my ntfs partition restored. It was exactly what you thought.. the fact that during the install of lenny the installer changed a partition I told it to leave alone to a hidden one, and I just had to change the type back to 07 to fix it. Or maybe it was just that I mounted it and wrote a few files to it from the Linux side. Anyway... wanted to say thanks for all the hel |
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| 17:18.38 | octoserver | I think I was thinking about what mount tells you.I have been away from my computer working on the house for a couple months and I cant believe how much you forget |
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| 17:19.17 | blubberdiblub | ArthurM, you're welcome :) |
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| 17:20.33 | leoechevarria | buenas |
| 17:20.42 | leoechevarria | i mean, hi everybody! |
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| 17:21.04 | subia | holas |
| 17:21.22 | octoserver | is it just my crappy memory, or do most of you have to keep notes on stuff too ? |
| 17:21.33 | leoechevarria | subia: an argentinian :) |
| 17:21.59 | mohadib | octoserver: if you dont use it you lose it :p |
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| 17:22.26 | leoechevarria | can anybody give me a hand with apt-move? |
| 17:22.48 | Jorophose | octoserver: yeah all the time ;P |
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| 17:23.11 | mohadib | i keep notes in my bash history file :) |
| 17:23.28 | octoserver | mohadib: i was getting pretty good with iptables a few months ago, but after not playing with it for a couple months, i couldnt even remember how to show the current policies that are set lol |
| 17:23.37 | mohadib | :p |
| 17:23.46 | mohadib | iptable -L ;) |
| 17:23.49 | octoserver | like i never read about most of it before lol |
| 17:23.54 | octoserver | yea i know lol |
| 17:23.56 | leoechevarria | ok, i know i just got to answer, and no answer to answer :P |
| 17:24.51 | octoserver | those commands were way back in my bash history |
| 17:25.04 | mohadib | you can use ctrl +r to reverse search your history |
| 17:25.14 | mohadib | its one of the most useful bash shorcuts there is |
| 17:25.35 | leoechevarria | i've configured apt-move with apache2 in a LAN, and it general points it works ok, but the problem is that not all the packages are distributed... for example, i tried to install amarok on one of the machines, and it told me the dependences it needed were not available... and i know those libs and other stuff amarok needs to work are in the apt-move server... any idea? sorry for the long |
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| 17:26.57 | octoserver | mohadib: dude....... linux rocks |
| 17:27.02 | mohadib | ;) |
| 17:27.07 | octoserver | mohadib: that is cool, thanks lol |
| 17:27.10 | mohadib | np :) |
| 17:27.38 | octoserver | mohadib: lets hope i can remember it lol |
| 17:27.43 | mohadib | hahaha |
| 17:28.04 | octoserver | no lie, im going to keep it in my notes lol |
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| 17:30.18 | adie | leoechevarria: have you checked the correct version of each file is there? |
| 17:31.23 | leoechevarria | i guess so.. i'm using the same version (lenny) in all the pcs |
| 17:31.40 | adie | fwiu apt-move just creates a direcotry hiararchy, and packages.gz... it doesn't guarentee that all the dependencies are there. |
| 17:32.22 | leoechevarria | but it's rare... because i know all the dependencies were at /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 17:32.40 | adie | perhaps you've found a bug? |
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| 17:33.15 | adie | are you using the apt-move host as the sole source for the other hosts on your network? |
| 17:33.19 | leoechevarria | adie: maybe :P |
| 17:33.24 | madk | which bluetooth dongles are supported by debian? |
| 17:33.45 | leoechevarria | ehmm, if you mean i deleted all the other repos from the other machines, yes adie |
| 17:34.23 | adie | leoechevarria: I'd probably add the same sources below your main source, so it will pull from locally if it's there.. |
| 17:34.39 | adie | just uses squid with a high object size. |
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| 17:35.11 | leoechevarria | fuck my english, not sure i understand adie :( |
| 17:36.41 | adie | leoechevarria: check whether the missing dependencies exist on the apt-move server... |
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| 17:37.15 | leoechevarria | adie: ahap |
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| 17:37.19 | adie | leoechevarria: put all of the sources in the sources.list below your apt-cache server name. |
| 17:38.08 | leoechevarria | so if it has to download something that's not in the apt-move server, it will do it from the inet right adie? |
| 17:38.14 | Theoden | Can someone tell me where I can get the kernel headers for Lenny? |
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| 17:38.48 | OBcecado | reps ? |
| 17:39.23 | utb_diablo | Theoden, apt-cache search linux | grep headers ? |
| 17:39.24 | Theoden | Apt-get does not seem to find them. |
| 17:39.52 | adie | leoechevarria: yes |
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| 17:40.02 | adie | leoechevarria: have you tried: apt-move mirror ? |
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| 17:40.28 | adie | leoechevarria: or apt-move sync ? |
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| 17:41.47 | Theoden | utb_diablo: thx |
| 17:42.08 | utb_diablo | ;) |
| 17:42.18 | mohadib | apt-cache search can take multiple search words |
| 17:42.23 | cYmen | guys...apt-file update only tells me that it "Can't get [...]" sometimes with a (404) sometimes no reason |
| 17:42.27 | cYmen | any ideas what might be wrong? |
| 17:42.30 | mohadib | so apt-cache search linux headers should work fine too |
| 17:42.39 | leoechevarria | adie: no i haven't, i always do apt-move update |
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| 17:43.49 | adie | cYmen: 404 means the file no longer exists, is your system updated? |
| 17:43.57 | tdn | I have just bought a USB wireless network card. How do I add this to my system, so I can use it? My system is a Thinkpad T61p. It already has an Intel wlan card, but I would like to use the new USB one. |
| 17:44.37 | adie | leoechevarria: using "apt-move sync" is meant to make sure the archive is fully populated or something.. the manpage will tell you more. |
| 17:44.47 | cahoot | plug it in and load the module it needs |
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| 17:44.59 | cahoot | tdn: ^^ |
| 17:45.15 | cahoot | tdn: and of course install needed firmware |
| 17:45.20 | mohadib | set your defaulot route to use the usb card |
| 17:45.20 | cYmen | adie: uh..i think |
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| 17:46.04 | tdn | cahoot, how do I check which module needs to be loaded and what firmware is needed? It is an EDIMAX card. The box says that Debian is supported. |
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| 17:46.22 | mohadib | tdn: tail -f /var/log/messages |
| 17:46.24 | leoechevarria | adie: i'm already doing it, let's see |
| 17:46.25 | mohadib | then plug the card in |
| 17:46.30 | mohadib | it might alredy be working |
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| 17:46.37 | mohadib | and you just need to bring it up |
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| 17:47.16 | tdn | mohadib, well... /var/log/messages does not contain any information on the card. I watch dmesg though, and there is a lot of information... |
| 17:47.30 | tdn | mohadib, it is not already working. :) |
| 17:47.31 | mohadib | then try ifconfig eth1 up |
| 17:47.37 | mohadib | how do you know its not |
| 17:47.41 | mohadib | did you try to being it up |
| 17:47.46 | mohadib | bring* |
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| 17:48.35 | tdn | mohadib, well... It does not find the card. There is no eth1 on my system. |
| 17:48.50 | mohadib | then thats a good indicator :p |
| 17:49.01 | mohadib | try booting a very recent live cd |
| 17:49.08 | mohadib | its an easy way to find out drivers |
| 17:49.13 | mohadib | that or google :) |
| 17:50.01 | tdn | Now I found out that the model name of the card is rt73 |
| 17:50.25 | tdn | EDIMAX Ralink RT73 a/b/g WLAN Card. |
| 17:50.43 | octoserver | is there a shorter way to do hddtemp /dev/sda /dev/sdb /dev/sdc /dev/sdd ? |
| 17:50.57 | tdn | octoserver, make an alias for the command? |
| 17:50.59 | mohadib | set up the config gile |
| 17:51.02 | mohadib | file |
| 17:51.07 | mohadib | and run the daemon |
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| 17:52.40 | tdn | mohadib, I have found this bug report on the card: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=396648 |
| 17:53.16 | mohadib | ahh |
| 17:53.29 | mohadib | looks like you go to do it yourself |
| 17:53.32 | xingu | !rt73 |
| 17:53.33 | dpkg | The legacy driver for Ralink RT2573/RT2671 (rt73) is at http://www.ralinktech.com.tw/data/RT73_Linux_STA_Drv1.0.4.0.tar.gz. Enhanced legacy driver is at http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/rt73-cvs-daily.tar.gz (the required 'rt73.bin' firmware file is included). Also ask me about <rt2x00>. http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/rt73 |
| 17:53.46 | octoserver | mohadib: what can hddtemp do in tcp/ip deamon mode ? |
| 17:54.11 | leoechevarria | adie: i'll see it later, thanks for you help |
| 17:54.15 | leoechevarria | i got to go now |
| 17:54.15 | mohadib | er, i meant run the daemon so applications can query it |
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| 17:54.23 | mohadib | i think i might have missunderstood |
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| 17:54.39 | tdn | !rt2x00 |
| 17:54.39 | dpkg | i guess rt2x00 is a project (http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/) providing drivers for most <Ralink> cards, and a set of drivers from that project. The rt2x00 drivers are available as (quite buggy) out-of-tree LKM-s in Etch, packaged as 'rt2x00-source', read /usr/share/doc/rt2x00-source/README.Debian for compilation instructions. Starting from lenny/Linux 2.6.24, rt2x00 drivers are included with the kernel. Also ask me about <ralink firmware>. |
| 17:54.52 | pawbie | I'm trying to figure out how to receive an "event" if a USB device is plugged in. Any hints in the right direction? |
| 17:55.11 | mohadib | pawbie: you can do that with udev iirc |
| 17:55.20 | tdn | !ralink firmware |
| 17:55.21 | dpkg | Firmware is required for the rt61pci and rt73usb drivers from the <rt2x00> project. Install the <non-free> 'firmware-ralink' package (etch-backports, lenny) or manually acquire from http://www.ralinktech.com/ralink/Home/Support/Linux.html, unextract and transfer the *.bin file(s) to /lib/firmware. |
| 17:55.53 | mohadib | pawbie: http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Fedora/2007-09/msg02323.html |
| 17:56.19 | pawbie | mohadib: Ah, yea. I'm actually reading the udev faq right now..... Just wanted to make sure I was in the right direction. ;) |
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| 17:57.19 | JyZyXEL | do you need to have multiple nic's to be able to use all the ip-addresses that ISP gives you? |
| 17:57.54 | pawbie | mohadib: A lot of this documentation references disks. I plan to use it with 2 devices that certainly aren't disks (a usb controller and a usb->serial adapter). This will still work, you think? |
| 17:58.13 | simonrvn | JyZyXEL: no, but it's useful |
| 17:58.35 | mohadib | pawbie: sure , the example i linked is for a GPS device |
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| 17:59.19 | mohadib | JyZyXEL: you can use virt interfaces |
| 17:59.26 | mohadib | eth0:1 and so on |
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| 17:59.35 | octoserver | mohadib: what I kind of meant was like this watch hddtemp /dev/sd[abcd], but the deamon thing is cool and I didnt know you could do that |
| 17:59.42 | JyZyXEL | mohadib it has to be a number? |
| 17:59.50 | mohadib | afaik |
| 18:00.55 | JyZyXEL | iface eth0:2 inet dhcp |
| 18:00.57 | JyZyXEL | like that? |
| 18:01.12 | mohadib | i have not tried it in the interface file |
| 18:01.17 | mohadib | but i bet it would work |
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| 18:01.29 | mohadib | if not use rc.local to bring them up possibly |
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| 18:01.55 | DavidVWallin | hi, got a problem installing cupsys on my debian 4 machine. i just did apt-get install cupsys and it installed some files then i configured cupsd.conf but it wont work |
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| 18:02.04 | DavidVWallin | any hints or guides for it please? |
| 18:02.06 | DavidVWallin | tried googling |
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| 18:02.20 | mohadib | DavidVWallin: how didnt it work? |
| 18:02.32 | adie | DavidVWallin: http://127.0.0.1:631/ |
| 18:02.37 | mohadib | "didnt work" is not real useful debug info |
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| 18:02.45 | DavidVWallin | mohadib: cant reach it with links on http://127.0.0.1:631 locally and not over the network with the ip |
| 18:02.47 | JyZyXEL | so how do you do it? |
| 18:03.01 | mohadib | DavidVWallin: /etc/init.d/cups start |
| 18:03.07 | mohadib | or whatever the init script name is |
| 18:03.20 | DavidVWallin | only got /etc/init.d/cupsys and that is started |
| 18:03.26 | mohadib | hmm |
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| 18:03.33 | mohadib | no clue |
| 18:03.40 | adie | what's in /etc/default/cups* ? |
| 18:03.41 | cast | hmm, kinda need a 3D spreadsheet |
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| 18:04.52 | mohadib | DavidVWallin: http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/view/2502/ |
| 18:04.59 | mohadib | thats what i got installed , and it works fine for me |
| 18:05.13 | mohadib | seems you need cups and cupsys |
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| 18:05.24 | argonel | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=462962 --no-install-recommends APT::Install-Recommends <20070801171103.GA5168@top.ping.de> |
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| 18:05.52 | p1ngp0ng | what does a usb pen show up as in /dev/ ? |
| 18:06.02 | Jemt | p1ngp0ng: /dev/sdX |
| 18:06.08 | p1ngp0ng | Jemt: thanks |
| 18:06.17 | Jemt | p1ngp0ng: X being a, b, c (partitions) |
| 18:06.24 | Jemt | np :) |
| 18:06.36 | DavidVWallin | mohadib: i tried doing apt-get install cups but it doesn't exist |
| 18:06.45 | mohadib | hmm |
| 18:06.53 | mohadib | no clue mate |
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| 18:07.22 | mewshi | hi |
| 18:07.25 | mewshi | I have a question |
| 18:07.25 | Jemt | Dave2: The package is called cupsys |
| 18:07.28 | DavidVWallin | mohadib: mind sharing your source.list with pastebin aswell please? |
| 18:07.35 | mohadib | DavidVWallin: im using etch :\ |
| 18:07.35 | Jemt | DavidVWallin , not Dave2 - sorry |
| 18:07.43 | mohadib | i figured the cups pks would be the same |
| 18:07.45 | mohadib | sorry |
| 18:07.51 | Jemt | DavidVWallin: See my comment before |
| 18:07.52 | mewshi | Dave2: goats |
| 18:07.56 | DavidVWallin | Jemt: oki |
| 18:08.11 | p1ngp0ng | hm, so fat32 is a unknown fs now eh? |
| 18:08.20 | mewshi | I want to take a small desktop and make it into a little proxy type thing... |
| 18:08.20 | Jemt | DavidVWallin: Also, use 'apt-cache search <package>' if you want to find out exactly what a package is called and you know a portion of it |
| 18:08.31 | DavidVWallin | Jemt: yeah that i know |
| 18:09.27 | mewshi | How hard will that be? |
| 18:09.42 | mewshi | will it be like plug and play, or will I need to configure it to use both ethernet cards? |
| 18:09.48 | Jemt | mewshi: What do you want the "proxy" to do? Share an internet connection ? |
| 18:11.14 | mewshi | Yes |
| 18:11.22 | mewshi | am i using the wrong terminology? |
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| 18:12.00 | p1ngp0ng | ext3 is the default fs for debian is it not? |
| 18:12.04 | Jemt | mewshi: I would call it a router :) |
| 18:12.12 | valdyn | p1ngp0ng: yes |
| 18:12.15 | mewshi | No, it's only for one machine |
| 18:12.18 | p1ngp0ng | ok |
| 18:12.22 | mewshi | and I might make it into a print server, too |
| 18:12.44 | Jemt | mewshi: So what should it do to the internet connection? Act as a firewall ? |
| 18:13.03 | mewshi | no, just a pass-through |
| 18:13.10 | mewshi | and access the internet itself |
| 18:13.11 | Jemt | mewshi: What's the purpose ? |
| 18:13.15 | mewshi | Alright |
| 18:13.23 | mewshi | I'm going to take my old desktop, which is now headless |
| 18:13.27 | Jemt | mewshi: Can't really help you if I don't know ;) |
| 18:13.40 | Jemt | mewshi: Headless ? |
| 18:13.40 | mewshi | I want to put an extra network card in it, and take it to school with me |
| 18:13.45 | \amethyst | !masq |
| 18:13.45 | dpkg | hmm... masq is See: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Masquerading-Simple-HOWTO/index.html by JohnFlux :), or do "iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o <output interface device, such as eth0> -j MASQUERADE ; echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" and view the rules with iptables -t nat -L |
| 18:13.47 | mewshi | yes, it's headless |
| 18:13.51 | \amethyst | !ipmasq |
| 18:13.51 | dpkg | If all you want is NAT (internet connection sharing), aptitude install ipmasq; and be happy. Otherwise learn about it at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/index.html |
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| 18:14.00 | \amethyst | mewshi: that might be what you're looking for |
| 18:14.18 | Jemt | mewshi: I do not understand that. It dosn't have a head? Humans have heads - computer's don't |
| 18:14.18 | mewshi | how about listening to the situation first? |
| 18:14.29 | p1ngp0ng | i am unable to mount my sandisc U3 4GB stick. it said wrong fs. but im pretty sure it's correct |
| 18:14.32 | \amethyst | Jemt: 'head' means keyboard and display |
| 18:14.40 | Jemt | Ah, okay. I didn't know that |
| 18:14.54 | Jemt | Much easier to just say that :) |
| 18:14.59 | abrotman | lasagna! |
| 18:15.06 | mewshi | it doesn't have any output, or even a normal input... it's ONLY connected to the network, and occasionally a USB device |
| 18:15.18 | DavidVWallin | This is my cupsd.conf: http://pastebin.com/m3803a6cf |
| 18:15.22 | mewshi | anyway |
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| 18:16.39 | mewshi | what i want to do is have it plugged into the port for my room, and then have it sit and act as an IRC watcher thing, and also act as the path to the school network and the internet for my laptop |
| 18:17.13 | mewshi | how hard is that? |
| 18:17.21 | mewshi | Also, it's a file server for my anime and music |
| 18:17.47 | \amethyst | mewshi: you can use the ipmasq package for the second part (though dnsmasq might be a little simpler, |
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| 18:18.20 | \amethyst | mewshi: since dnsmasq provides DNS service to the machines behind this box) |
| 18:18.46 | \amethyst | mewshi: as for the IRC watcher, you can ssh in to the machine and run an IRC client inside of screen |
| 18:18.57 | \amethyst | or an IRC bouncer---I'm not sure exactly what you're looking for there |
| 18:19.19 | mewshi | I think an IRC bouncer is what I'm looking for |
| 18:19.28 | mewshi | oh, forget it, i'll just use my hub... |
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| 18:20.34 | Amranu | so uh |
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| 18:20.38 | Amranu | how do I fix this |
| 18:20.40 | Amranu | E: The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/mirror could not be found. |
| 18:20.45 | Amranu | when trying to update |
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| 18:20.49 | p1ngp0ng | does a usb pen have to be mounted in predefined place? or can i mount it anywhere id like? |
| 18:21.06 | mewshi | anywhere you'd like |
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| 18:21.19 | EmleyMoor | p1ngp0ng: As you like - just not over the top of something you need |
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| 18:22.15 | p1ngp0ng | EmleyMoor: ok, then it dont understand why the following isnt working. mount /dev/sdb1 /home/p1ngp0ng/Backup -t fat32. any suggestions? |
| 18:22.17 | hatsefla1s | Hmmm, I want to install mediawiki, but it pulls apache2 by default. I wish to use lighttpd instead, how can I prevent apache from being installed? |
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| 18:22.32 | p1ngp0ng | i* |
| 18:22.39 | hatsefla1s | p1ngp0ng: what is the error message? |
| 18:22.43 | EmleyMoor | p1ngp0ng: Put the -t before the /dev/sdb1 |
| 18:22.43 | mewshi | hatsefla1s: it may be that it needs apache2 for a php dependency or such |
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| 18:22.50 | EmleyMoor | -t fat32 even |
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| 18:23.09 | EmleyMoor | Also, what exact error do you get? |
| 18:23.21 | hatsefla1s | mewshi: yes, that's most likely the case, does that mean I just have to live with it? |
| 18:23.21 | \amethyst | hatsefla1s: is lighttpd already installed? |
| 18:23.29 | hatsefla1s | \amethyst: yes it is |
| 18:23.33 | EmleyMoor | (it may not make a difference, the order, but I always did it that way) |
| 18:23.34 | p1ngp0ng | EmleyMoor: i tried that. didnt work. the error is unknonw fs, bad superblock... something something |
| 18:23.45 | \amethyst | hatsefla1s: make sure you have php5-cgi |
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| 18:23.58 | hatsefla1s | p1ngp0ng: modprobe vfat ? |
| 18:24.02 | \amethyst | hatsefla1s: it might be that the php dependency was pulling in libapache2-mod-php5 because that's the default |
| 18:24.12 | Amranu | Uh, I'm having a problem with apt. Whenever I try apt-get update I get the error: E: The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/mirror could not be found. |
| 18:24.13 | EmleyMoor | p1ngp0ng: -t vfat rather than -t fat32? |
| 18:24.30 | hatsefla1s | EmleyMoor: it /should/ autodetect when the module is loaded anyhow |
| 18:24.51 | p1ngp0ng | Yes. vfat did it- |
| 18:24.55 | Amranu | so yeah, I can't update my package list |
| 18:24.55 | EmleyMoor | hasefla1s: Agreed, it should |
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| 18:24.57 | p1ngp0ng | why didnt fat32 work tho? |
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| 18:25.15 | hatsefla1s | p1ngp0ng: because fat32 isn't a valid filesystem type, it's called vfat |
| 18:25.23 | EmleyMoor | p1ngp0ng: Maybe because there isn't such a thing, or what's on your device isn't one |
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| 18:25.26 | hatsefla1s | or at least, the registered filesystem name |
| 18:25.34 | p1ngp0ng | aah, ok. thanks for the help :) |
| 18:25.45 | hatsefla1s | \amethyst: works like a charm, thanks a bunch |
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| 18:27.04 | Amranu | hmm, could anyone check what /usr/lib/apt/methods/mirror contains? |
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| 18:27.49 | Amranu | for some reason I'm missing that file and |
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| 18:27.56 | Amranu | I can't update without it |
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| 18:28.16 | \amethyst | Amranu: I don't have it on either etch or sid |
| 18:28.21 | Amranu | hmm |
| 18:28.44 | \amethyst | ubuntu has it |
| 18:28.50 | \amethyst | what does your sources.list look like? |
| 18:29.07 | Amranu | !paste |
| 18:29.07 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 3 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! |
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| 18:29.34 | lolufail | hi all! |
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| 18:30.03 | hatsefla1s | lolufail: I find your nickname insulting! |
| 18:30.10 | Amranu | http://paste.debian.net/16161/ |
| 18:30.11 | hatsefla1s | hi btw :) |
| 18:30.15 | lolufail | OMG need help with array, all my data might be lost. I just had a power outage while growing a degraded raid5 with 2 disks, to one with 3 disks |
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| 18:30.26 | Amranu | I think I know what caused it now... but I dunno how to fix it |
| 18:30.40 | lolufail | now it says mdadm --assemble /dev/md0: |
| 18:30.44 | Amranu | I installed apturl a bit ago.. |
| 18:30.52 | lolufail | Failed to restore critical section for reshape, sorry |
| 18:31.22 | Amranu | ok, got it fixed, thanks for the help though |
| 18:31.33 | Amranu | that's what I get for installing random ubuntu stuff |
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| 18:32.03 | hatsefla1s | lolufail: you're fscked |
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| 18:32.36 | lolufail | oh jesus |
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| 18:32.45 | lolufail | seriously? |
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| 18:34.25 | luke-jr | lolufail: worse |
| 18:34.28 | Wyzard | lolufail: That's interesting... my understanding was that Linux RAID restriping is safe against things like power outages except for a very small critical section at the beginning of the process, that takes less than a minute |
| 18:34.31 | luke-jr | lolufail: you never had a raid5 |
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| 18:34.47 | balor | Anyone know what libmisc is or where I would find it? |
| 18:34.56 | luke-jr | lolufail: so I don't know what you could possibly mean ☺ |
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| 18:35.15 | lolufail | luke-jr: I created it with level=5 --devices (or so)=2 |
| 18:35.18 | lolufail | and it didnt complain |
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| 18:35.24 | luke-jr | lolufail: raid5 requires 3 disks |
| 18:35.25 | luke-jr | minimum |
| 18:35.29 | lolufail | the added the third drive with grow or so |
| 18:35.37 | lolufail | nope, 2 discs, at least with mdadm |
| 18:35.40 | luke-jr | 3 |
| 18:35.53 | lolufail | yeah, so it'S a degraded raid5 to start with, I get it |
| 18:35.59 | Wyzard | luke-jr: RAID-5 with 2 disks is valid |
| 18:36.21 | Wyzard | You get 1 disk worth of space |
| 18:36.30 | luke-jr | you're thinking RAID-1 |
| 18:36.39 | Wyzard | It's kinda like RAID1, but with a more complex structure and more overhead, so it's not generally done |
| 18:36.40 | Wyzard | No, I'm not |
| 18:37.02 | Wyzard | It's valid but there's not much point in using it instead of RAID-1 |
| 18:37.10 | Wyzard | except when you plan to restripe it later to add more disks |
| 18:37.23 | lolufail | yes, that was my plan |
| 18:37.59 | Wyzard | lolufail: Did the power fail very early in the process? |
| 18:38.09 | lolufail | nope |
| 18:38.10 | lolufail | after 1 day |
| 18:38.21 | lolufail | 5500 minutes( 4 days or so) |
| 18:38.27 | lolufail | was the ETA |
| 18:38.33 | lolufail | for some reason |
| 18:38.41 | mewshi | O.o |
| 18:38.42 | Wyzard | It was going to take 4 days to restripe a 2-disk array? |
| 18:38.47 | lolufail | yeah |
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| 18:38.53 | hatsefla1s | ...thats an awfully long time for a growing/restriping a 2disk array |
| 18:39.00 | lolufail | 20 MB/s said bdstat |
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| 18:39.14 | lolufail | rashaping.... |
| 18:39.16 | lolufail | hm |
| 18:39.26 | hatsefla1s | it's a tad slow, but even that shouldn't amount to more than a few hours for even 1 tib disks |
| 18:39.28 | Wyzard | I've restriped arrays before and found that it takes roughly four times as long as a resync |
| 18:39.34 | lolufail | 640GB |
| 18:39.47 | Wyzard | and my 3x750GB array only takes 3 or 4 hours to sync, IIRC |
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| 18:40.07 | dtatulea | Hi. One short question: I've installed a system with the netinst cd. But I had some network config issues and now I'd like to use it after the install. I know that there is a command that restarts the installer on the system. |
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| 18:40.25 | hatsefla1s | Wyzard: so 4 * 4 = 16 hours, times (1/3) average speed... that's a long time |
| 18:40.36 | Wyzard | still nowhere near 4 days |
| 18:40.41 | hatsefla1s | indeed |
| 18:40.56 | Wyzard | Anyway, about that "critical section" |
| 18:41.07 | hatsefla1s | and restriping my raid 5 to a raid 6 only took 8 hours where a resync takes 4-ish |
| 18:41.09 | lolufail | yeah.... but :) sry it's all my data, I'm a little concerned about that ;) |
| 18:41.16 | Wyzard | That's at the beginning of the restripe process, and in my experience it only takes a minute or so |
| 18:41.28 | lolufail | yeah it took 4 sedonds or so |
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| 18:41.37 | hatsefla1s | lolufail: discussing why the process is so slow might hold clues as to your current predicament |
| 18:41.48 | jpinx | I am trying to tar /etc and /var and /home on a remote server, but I am getting garbage when i do sudo tar -cv backupetc.tar etc/ |
| 18:42.06 | Wyzard | IIRC, it says it's backing up data for the critical section (I think it uses the as-yet-unused space on the new disk, unless you specify something different with --backup-file), then says when it's done |
| 18:42.13 | hatsefla1s | jpinx: tar -cvf backupetc.tar etc/ |
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| 18:42.36 | Wyzard | lolufail: You're saying it got past that point? |
| 18:42.37 | hatsefla1s | you need to specify the file with -f, or it'll default to stdout |
| 18:42.44 | lolufail | Wyzard: yes. |
| 18:42.53 | lolufail | it was probably at 20% of the reshape |
| 18:43.00 | Wyzard | hmm, weird |
| 18:43.08 | jpinx | ah-ha - thanks hatsefla1s: |
| 18:43.24 | hatsefla1s | jpinx: no problem, next time try man tar before asking it here |
| 18:43.33 | Wyzard | lolufail: What's in your /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf for md0? |
| 18:43.46 | lolufail | I'm booting from a livecd |
| 18:44.10 | lolufail | md0 was / |
| 18:44.17 | Wyzard | Well, --assemble looks at mdadm.conf for details about the array, IIRC |
| 18:44.32 | Wyzard | You need to make sure it's actually looking at all three disks when trying to assemble |
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| 18:44.40 | lolufail | it is |
| 18:44.43 | lolufail | --verbose says so |
| 18:45.18 | lolufail | identifies the 3 disks as mamaber of /dev/md0, slot [0-2] |
| 18:45.21 | lolufail | member |
| 18:45.24 | jpinx | hatsefla1s: I have been struggling with man tar all morning - how do I work /path/to/folders in a tar cammand - it appears to only work if I am in the dir and I have to move the tarball later |
| 18:46.07 | Wyzard | lolufail: dunno then... your situation is one that I belived should be recoverable, based on the mdadm manpage, but I've never had it happen |
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| 18:46.33 | Wyzard | lolufail: though now that it's been called in to question, I think I'll do some testing in VMware |
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| 18:46.52 | hatsefla1s | jpinx: the -c options enables you to chdir within tar, I think that's what you are looking for |
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| 18:47.16 | Wyzard | since I've been considering adding a fourth disk to my array |
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| 18:47.28 | lolufail | Wyzard: thanks, that would help |
| 18:48.13 | lolufail | I could extract the mdadm.conf from the initrd |
| 18:48.13 | jpinx | hatsefla1s: yes - but I'll need to play with a test to see if that's for input or output dirs |
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| 18:49.13 | Wyzard | lolufail: I don't know if it matters... I just mentioned it because it might still say num-devices=2 |
| 18:49.22 | jpinx | the man page for tar is not so good - they admit that themselves |
| 18:49.49 | hatsefla1s | jpinx: perhaps use the info file instead? |
| 18:51.05 | jpinx | hatsefla1s: I'm on the GNU website manul now - thanks for the pointers:) |
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| 18:51.17 | hatsefla1s | jpinx: any day |
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| 18:53.00 | lolufail | ok, when using incremental assembly, it says, after adding the 2nd disk: /dev/sdc5 attached to /dev/md0, not enough to start safely |
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| 18:53.57 | lolufail | yey started /dev/m0 |
| 18:54.11 | Wyzard | You got it to work? |
| 18:54.25 | lolufail | FUCK YES! |
| 18:54.28 | lolufail | W00t |
| 18:54.33 | hatsefla1s | lolufail: please mind your language here |
| 18:54.34 | lolufail | sweet thank GOD |
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| 18:54.40 | Wyzard | cool :-) |
| 18:54.51 | Wyzard | interesting that it worked with incremental assembly but not the straightforward way |
| 18:55.00 | lolufail | but wtf didnt it work without -I |
| 18:55.04 | lolufail | yeah |
| 18:55.11 | lolufail | okay... what now? |
| 18:55.24 | lolufail | I started it with the 2 old discs |
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| 18:56.10 | Wyzard | now figure out why your disk I/O is so slow that it takes 4 days to restripe |
| 18:56.30 | lolufail | huh, he is reshaping |
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| 18:56.36 | lolufail | at 16,1% |
| 18:56.53 | lolufail | 2 MB/s |
| 18:57.16 | lolufail | okay, this would be a truly degraded raid5 |
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| 18:58.03 | lolufail | state: clean, degraded, recovering |
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| 19:00.50 | lolufail | weird thing is, mdparm -t gives 205 MB/s on the raid, and half of that on a single disc |
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| 19:03.15 | rofl | lolufail: mdparm |
| 19:03.18 | rofl | ? |
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| 19:03.44 | lolufail | hdparm sry |
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| 19:07.32 | MXIIA | where does "wget" save things?? |
| 19:07.38 | vlt | Hello. I installed a tiny Debian system via `debootstrap` and installed "xserver-xorg" and "xvnc4viewer". How can I run `vncviewer somehost` now? |
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| 19:08.34 | lolufail | uhm, now I have disks 0 and 1 as active, disk 2 as removed, and disc 3 (which actually should be "2") as spare :( |
| 19:08.38 | lolufail | how..to? |
| 19:09.03 | vincentvdk | Does anyone has seen this before ? ata1.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x6 frozen |
| 19:09.28 | Wyzard | vincentvdk: That's an I/O error |
| 19:09.40 | vincentvdk | i'm having some problems with my SATA DVD-RW |
| 19:10.27 | lolufail | anybody knows how I can get that third disc to replace the "removed" entry? |
| 19:10.42 | vincentvdk | i can't burn anything with that drive |
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| 19:11.20 | vincentvdk | and then i see these msgs ata1.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x6 frozen |
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| 19:11.33 | MXIIA | I have the .deb package for something, how do I install it (server) |
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| 19:11.55 | vincentvdk | dpkg -i <package>.deb |
| 19:11.55 | dpkg | package <package>.deb is already installed |
| 19:12.01 | Wyzard | lolufail: That'll change when the reshape is finished, I believe |
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| 19:12.20 | lolufail | wytard: he currently only sees 2 discs.. |
| 19:12.29 | lolufail | I removed the third and he keeps rehsaping |
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| 19:12.38 | lolufail | wyzard ;) sry |
| 19:13.01 | vincentvdk | is anyone else using a SATA DVD writer/Reader? |
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| 19:13.28 | Wyzard | It sounds like you have all three disks in your array right now (two normal and one "spare") |
| 19:13.33 | Wyzard | vincentvdk: I have two of them |
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| 19:14.10 | Wyzard | vincentvdk: They work fine in this system, but I've seen a different system where SATA optical drives did not work at all in Linux |
| 19:14.19 | WickedMetalHead | Hm, what program do i need to get rid of to unbind port 179 on a default debian install |
| 19:14.37 | Wyzard | vincentvdk: If one was plugged in, the driver would get confused and repeatedly reset the port, and wouldn't even recognize any SATA hard drives connected to the same controller |
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| 19:15.13 | \amethyst | WickedMetalHead: netstat -plunt | grep 179 (as root) will show you the process |
| 19:15.23 | Wyzard | WickedMetalHead: Port 179 is used by BGP according to /etc/services, but there wouldn't be a BGP daemon in a default install |
| 19:15.24 | \amethyst | WickedMetalHead: 179 is BGP, which is a router protocol |
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| 19:15.45 | vincentvdk | if i add pollirq to grub, i have less problems |
| 19:15.49 | Wyzard | vincentvdk: What type of SATA controller do you have? |
| 19:15.52 | Fiskah | Is it possible to scp whole directories at once? |
| 19:16.08 | nagnag | Fiskah, -r |
| 19:16.08 | screamingbytes | is the gnome-color-chooser still in deb? |
| 19:16.48 | screamingbytes | or a tool to change colors for windows, scroll bars, window backgrounds, etc... without making a full theme. |
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| 19:17.24 | vincentvdk | Wyzard: IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06 |
| 19:17.46 | Pyth1320 | I've just installed debian sid and I've got everything else to work except my graphic card. I've got HD4870 and I wonder if there even IS a driver yet |
| 19:18.12 | Wyzard | vincentvdk: Are you sure that's your SATA controller and not your legacy PATA one? |
| 19:18.26 | vincentvdk | that's all i can find with lspci |
| 19:18.34 | lolufail | how can I make the livecd lvm let recocnize my raid? |
| 19:18.38 | vincentvdk | it's an onboard controller |
| 19:18.45 | Wyzard | vincentvdk: Can you pastebin your lspci output somewhere? |
| 19:18.54 | vincentvdk | Wyzard: yes, moment |
| 19:19.27 | zrin | how to match _any_ character, even in range \x80 to \xff with GNU sed 4.1.5 ? I have problem with matching stopping on e.g. \xFC; I need to extract some fields from proftpd xferlog, where file names may contain strange characters. |
| 19:19.50 | vincentvdk | Wyzard: http://www.nomorepasting.com/getpaste.php?pasteid=19791 |
| 19:19.56 | Wyzard | lolufail: It should automatically... does vgscan list your VG? |
| 19:20.21 | Wyzard | lolufail: You probably have to activate it (vgchange -ay <name>) |
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| 19:21.37 | Wyzard | vincentvdk: OK, I guess your SATA controller is presenting a legacy IDE interface, probably so that it can support both SATA and PATA devices... I'm used to my AHCI controllers which actually say "SATA" in lspci |
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| 19:22.16 | lolufail | Wyzard: vgchange -ay raidvg did it, thanks! |
| 19:22.27 | vincentvdk | Wyzard: if i add an PCI SATA card? would that help? |
| 19:22.55 | \amethyst | zrin: LC_CTYPE=C sed blah |
| 19:23.01 | Wyzard | vincentvdk: Very possibly, since it'd be a different type of controller with a different driver |
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| 19:23.29 | lolufail | stupidly, the UUID of the raid device changes, if it's been reshaped... therefore the initramdisk fails -.- |
| 19:23.32 | vincentvdk | Wyzard: ok, ill try that option. MB i quite old |
| 19:23.35 | zrin | \amethyst: thank you! |
| 19:23.39 | \amethyst | zrin: probably you're in a UTF-8 locale so . is only matching valid UTF-8 characters. LC_CTYPE=C treats each byte as a character |
| 19:23.54 | Wyzard | vincentvdk: Be careful what you get -- the one I had trouble with was a Silicon Image 3112 |
| 19:23.54 | \amethyst | zrin: (though that behaviour isn't portable, it works on GNU systems) |
| 19:24.01 | \amethyst | s/,/;/ |
| 19:24.09 | Pyth1320 | I've just installed debian sid and got everything else to work except my graphic card. I've got HD4870 and I wonder if there even IS a driver out yet and if yes then how could I install it |
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| 19:24.24 | Wyzard | vincentvdk: The ideal type of SATA controller is AHCI, but I don't think there are any AHCI controllers available with a legacy PCI interface (only PCIe) |
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| 19:24.49 | omry | how do I refresh /dev/disk/by-uuid without rebooting (after partitioning a new disk) ? |
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| 19:25.25 | levabalki | hello, I just installed lenny debian, but looks that there are no fonts in X, of course some font packages are installed, but whaen I open iceweasel ... no fonts. (it's a minimal net install) |
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| 19:25.37 | levabalki | any clue ? |
| 19:25.47 | lolufail | nevermind it doesnt |
| 19:25.53 | pawbie | Wow |
| 19:25.54 | vincentvdk | levabalki: what do you mean |
| 19:26.04 | pawbie | After an hour of screwing udev, that was extremely easy. |
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| 19:26.23 | vincentvdk | levabalki: maybe you need mstcorefonts |
| 19:26.26 | MXIIA | what is debian's equivalent of sudo? |
| 19:26.32 | levabalki | well, I just installed the whole xorg , and few packages, but I have no fonts in iceweasel ... :) |
| 19:26.37 | pawbie | MXIIA: ....sudo. |
| 19:26.38 | Wyzard | MXIIA: sudo |
| 19:26.40 | levabalki | only in the fvwm minimal menu , or console |
| 19:26.45 | vincentvdk | MXIIA: sudo |
| 19:26.52 | \amethyst | omry: does udevadm trigger do it? |
| 19:26.54 | Wyzard | MXIIA: but it's not installed by default |
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| 19:27.01 | MXIIA | I get "-bash: sudo: command not found" |
| 19:27.04 | MXIIA | how do I install it |
| 19:27.14 | Wyzard | aptitude install sudo |
| 19:27.14 | omry | \amethyst, found it by now: udevtrigger worked for me. |
| 19:27.16 | Wyzard | as root |
| 19:27.16 | omry | thanks. |
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| 19:27.55 | poven | hi guys, i'm having trouble with networking on my old acer travelmate 270 and google can not help me.. can someone of you maybe? its very curious.. :x |
| 19:27.55 | Wyzard | MXIIA: Are you actually just asking how to become root in Debian? |
| 19:28.11 | Wyzard | MXIIA: If you've only heard of sudo then presumably you've only used Ubuntu :-) |
| 19:28.17 | micols | du -s *|sort -n , i need an alternative to this which will show in human readable format, any ideas, sort seems not to work when -h is used on 'du' ? |
| 19:28.21 | Wyzard | MXIIA: Use "su" |
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| 19:28.25 | MXIIA | ok |
| 19:28.39 | Wyzard | MXIIA: and root's password (not your own like sudo) |
| 19:28.54 | MXIIA | okj |
| 19:28.56 | MXIIA | *ok |
| 19:29.26 | MXIIA | also how do I add the testing repo to apt? |
| 19:29.36 | pawbie | MXIIA: GUI or the "real" way? |
| 19:29.40 | MXIIA | real |
| 19:29.53 | pawbie | MXIIA: Head to /etc/apt and vi sources.list |
| 19:30.12 | Fiskah | how do I list the groups created? |
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| 19:30.23 | lolufail | hm I can't get that "removed" device to disappear... |
| 19:30.27 | abrotman | getent group |
| 19:30.27 | lolufail | what should I do |
| 19:30.53 | MXIIA | Ok, now what do I add to the list? |
| 19:30.55 | poven | no one? i don't want to install xp on this old box.. :x |
| 19:31.01 | poven | i have no more ideas |
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| 19:31.13 | pawbie | MXIIA: add "testing" to the end of all the repos listed. Or "lenny" |
| 19:31.26 | MXIIA | ok |
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| 19:31.47 | iEatChildren | how do i disable the dvd as an installation source? |
| 19:31.53 | pawbie | MXIIA: While you're in there, it's not a bad idea to add "contrib" and "non-free", too.... |
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| 19:31.58 | MXIIA | ok |
| 19:32.04 | cast | edit /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 19:32.04 | iEatChildren | i installed from dvd and now when it needs a package off the dvd it just keeps telling me to insert the dvd |
| 19:32.06 | abrotman | iEatChildren: comment it out in the sources.list |
| 19:32.09 | iEatChildren | thanks |
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| 19:32.27 | MXIIA | just the word? "testing" no actual url? |
| 19:32.43 | pawbie | MXIIA: You're adding it *after* the existing line with the url. |
| 19:32.52 | MXIIA | Ok |
| 19:32.55 | trump3t | hello, please Is it possible to force mc not to write into ~/.bash_history ? |
| 19:33.02 | MXIIA | I see |
| 19:33.30 | pawbie | MXIIA: It should say something along the lines of "deb http://https.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free" or similar. |
| 19:33.41 | MXIIA | yea |
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| 19:33.50 | pawbie | "apt-get update" and see if you broke it. |
| 19:34.45 | MXIIA | "E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. |
| 19:34.45 | MXIIA | " |
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| 19:35.14 | pawbie | MXIIA: use shift+pageup in the console to see where it complains. |
| 19:35.51 | MXIIA | "Failed to fetch http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile/dists/etch/volatile/Release Unable to find expected entry testing/source/Sources in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)" |
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| 19:37.52 | pawbie | MXIIA: Find the repo line in sources.list that has volatile in it and remove testing from it. |
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| 19:38.46 | footballer | hi |
| 19:38.46 | footballer | all |
| 19:40.27 | MXIIA | Still get the same error |
| 19:40.33 | MXIIA | this is my sources.list file |
| 19:40.35 | MXIIA | http://debian.pastebin.com/m6cc55ea2 |
| 19:41.14 | dmoerner | MXIIA, line 15: should it really be main lenny contrib non-free? |
| 19:41.19 | footballer | any onw hwo want to talk with me should pm me |
| 19:41.22 | footballer | pls |
| 19:41.23 | MXIIA | Ok |
| 19:41.41 | MXIIA | Um... pawbie said to do that |
| 19:41.57 | defrysk | line 15 is screwed up |
| 19:42.05 | MXIIA | should I make main, lenny and each seperate links (replacing volatile) |
| 19:42.08 | pawbie | wow, ya |
| 19:42.10 | dmoerner | MXIIA, i think you misunderstood him |
| 19:42.13 | MXIIA | :/ |
| 19:42.15 | pawbie | Definitely. :P |
| 19:42.17 | defrysk | etch and lenny in one line |
| 19:42.45 | MXIIA | Can you just pastebin the correct file? |
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| 19:43.30 | pawbie | MXIIA: Like that. http://debian.pastebin.com/m1fb61af2 |
| 19:43.45 | MXIIA | Ok, thanks |
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| 19:44.56 | lolufail | everytime I try to add the third disc, it says: mdadm: [third disc] has different metadata to chosen array /dev/md0 0.91 0.90. |
| 19:45.46 | elcuco | hi all, if i install debain inro an encrypted lvm... on each boot it asks for the passpharse. it that ok? |
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| 19:46.15 | pawbie | elcuco: Does it work? |
| 19:46.40 | elcuco | yes |
| 19:46.56 | pawbie | .... |
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| 19:47.07 | thedonvaughn | elcuco: as opposed to not asking you every boot? |
| 19:47.12 | thedonvaughn | elcuco: isn't that what you want? |
| 19:47.26 | Wyzard | elcuco: It's not clear what you're asking |
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| 19:47.55 | MXIIA | http://debian.pastebin.com/m8f84fd I get this as an error with apt-get update now |
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| 19:48.09 | elcuco | sec phone |
| 19:48.16 | elcuco | (sorry) |
| 19:48.38 | goldfischli | guys.. whats the aktuall kernel for lenny.. i read in the linux magazine that lenny should come with 2.6.24.. but my machine updatet to .26 last dayyx |
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| 19:48.41 | goldfischli | days |
| 19:49.11 | lackita | Hey, whenever I try to start windowmaker, my X server crashes and I get kicked back to the login screen |
| 19:49.20 | lackita | anybody have any ideas? |
| 19:49.27 | \amethyst | elcuco: the alternative is to put the key on a USB stick or something, then make sure that device is present when you boot |
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| 19:50.12 | \amethyst | elcuco: for more info about that, look for the word 'passdev' in /usr/share/doc/cryptsetup/README.initramfs.gz |
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| 19:52.18 | Wyzard | \amethyst: hey, cool, I didn't know about that feature |
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| 19:52.31 | Wyzard | \amethyst: now if only it supported reading from a TPM |
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| 19:55.23 | MXIIA | How do I see how much RAM all process are using? |
| 19:55.39 | Pons | MXIIA: top or ps |
| 19:55.42 | Wyzard | MXIIA: Run "free" |
| 19:55.51 | Pons | and the total amount, free |
| 19:55.53 | MXIIA | with "free -m" I get |
| 19:55.58 | MXIIA | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:55.58 | MXIIA | Mem: 488 480 7 0 36 354 |
| 19:56.07 | Pons | dooooh |
| 19:56.15 | MXIIA | That's why I want to see what process is eating my ram |
| 19:56.30 | lolufail | ah you can raise the speed of any sync action of a given array |
| 19:56.42 | Wyzard | MXIIA: What about the "-/+ buffers/cache" line? |
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| 19:56.46 | blubberdiblub | MXIIA: that doesn't mean anything, read the next line too |
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| 19:57.01 | MXIIA | MXIIA-Server:~# free -m |
| 19:57.01 | MXIIA | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:57.01 | MXIIA | Mem: 488 480 7 0 36 354 |
| 19:57.01 | MXIIA | -/+ buffers/cache: 90 398 |
| 19:57.01 | MXIIA | Swap: 862 0 862 |
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| 19:57.16 | \amethyst | MXIIA: so ~90 MB used |
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| 19:57.24 | blubberdiblub | MXIIA: see, there's still a lot free |
| 19:57.35 | MXIIA | http://debian.pastebin.com/m187a7d9f |
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| 19:57.38 | \amethyst | MXIIA: (plus 390 MB of disk cache) |
| 19:57.51 | Wyzard | MXIIA: You have 90MB of "actual" used RAM, and 398 still available to programs that need it |
| 19:57.57 | MXIIA | ok/... well the first line usually reads around 300 used and 200 free... |
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| 19:58.31 | \amethyst | MXIIA: probably you've been using the disk more this time, so more stuff is in cache |
| 19:58.35 | Wyzard | MXIIA: Most of that 398 is being used as disk cache to improve performance, but disk cache is immediately released when needed for other things, so it's not really "used" memory |
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| 19:58.49 | Pons | well, I was gonna ask, does any of you know a remote monitoring via web or some curses app? I need to check CPU and Memory for some machines connected in the same network. Any advices or suggestions? |
| 19:58.55 | MXIIA | Oh, Ok... |
| 19:58.55 | Wyzard | MXIIA: That's why the second line is more important than the first one |
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| 19:59.07 | MXIIA | Ok |
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| 19:59.12 | dondelelcaro | Pons: I suggest using munin |
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| 19:59.45 | Axz | Guys is lenny stable? |
| 19:59.58 | Wyzard | no, etch is |
| 20:00.08 | {xmb} | how to install xmms when libglib and libgtk (some ldb) conflicts? |
| 20:00.13 | Axz | i know but can lenny be run as OS without taking risks |
| 20:00.20 | Pons | dpkg: tell Axz about lenny |
| 20:00.36 | Wyzard | {xmb}: XMMS is ancient, and your conflicts are because it depends on GTK 1.x, which is also ancient |
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| 20:00.53 | Wyzard | {xmb}: Use Audacious -- it's a descendant of XMMS that's actually modern |
| 20:00.54 | {xmb} | :/ its the fastest player around |
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| 20:01.05 | {xmb} | aight will check it |
| 20:01.11 | Wyzard | wonders what it means for a music player to be "fast" |
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| 20:06.42 | Pons | thanx dondelelcaro |
| 20:07.11 | elcuco | sorry back... |
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| 20:07.37 | elcuco | i read about encrypted drives, and wanted to try. |
| 20:07.46 | {xmb} | player worrks |
| 20:07.51 | {xmb} | but i gotta get used to it some |
| 20:07.53 | {xmb} | thanks =) |
| 20:08.02 | elcuco | but i never understood that i need to sit in from of the box when it boots up to enter a passpharse |
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| 20:08.25 | \amethyst | elcuco: look for the word 'passdev' in /usr/share/doc/cryptsetup/README.initramfs.gz |
| 20:08.46 | \amethyst | elcuco: you can put the encryption key on a USB disk so you don't have to actually type it in |
| 20:09.01 | elcuco | yes. i was going to read that... but i just wanted to tell that the machine is a vmware machine :) |
| 20:09.16 | \amethyst | hm |
| 20:09.34 | Wyzard | elcuco: You can attach USB devices to virtual machines |
| 20:09.48 | elcuco | or a floppy image, i know |
| 20:10.21 | Wyzard | Storing the key in a floppy image on the hard drive would defeat the point of the encryption |
| 20:10.55 | unixSnob | I wouldn't want to use the USB stick approach to get through TSA at the airport |
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| 20:11.06 | unixSnob | TSA will simply confiscate the USB stick |
| 20:11.16 | elcuco | Wyzard: the goal is not a cryptological un-hackable machine, but to test the mechanics |
| 20:11.31 | elcuco | never used those things and wants to learn |
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| 20:11.54 | unixSnob | perhaps it could be setup so that if the USB stick is not present, it boots Windows with no interesting data |
| 20:11.56 | Wyzard | elcuco: if you just want to experiment with how to set up an encrypted system, and you're not trying for actual security, you could use a blank password |
| 20:12.01 | Wyzard | and just press Enter at the prompt |
| 20:12.30 | elcuco | Wyzard: LOL...why did not i think about it ? |
| 20:12.39 | elcuco | but again, that still pauses the boot |
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| 20:13.20 | afink | Is there a way to start the config tool that is used during installation after installation? |
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| 20:13.43 | Wyzard | elcuco: Use some unchanging small file in /boot as the keyfile, then |
| 20:14.19 | elcuco | Wyzard: thanks. i will see what road i take. |
| 20:14.23 | elcuco | thanks all! |
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| 20:20.26 | m3F | where can i get Lenny KDE LiveCD via http? |
| 20:21.04 | m3F | is there a livecd for Lenny? |
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| 20:21.56 | simonrvn | !cd |
| 20:21.56 | dpkg | hmm... cd is a Compact-Disc, or something that can hold about 650 megs, or a shiny silver thing that glitters, or a good beverage coaster, or change directory |
| 20:22.05 | simonrvn | ... |
| 20:22.10 | simonrvn | www.debian.org/CD/ |
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| 20:23.13 | footballer | any one who want to buy free iphones 3gb 4gb 8gb 16gb 32gb pm lee |
| 20:23.51 | iEatChildren | wants to buy free iphones? |
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| 20:23.54 | iEatChildren | wtf does that mean? |
| 20:23.55 | Wyzard | "buy free iphones" |
| 20:23.56 | Wyzard | lol |
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| 20:24.50 | iEatChildren | anyone want to buy a free OS? pm me |
| 20:24.50 | iEatChildren | lol |
| 20:24.51 | xand | footballer: if they're free, we wouldn't need to buy them.... now bugger off |
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| 20:25.19 | maligor | considering they only come in two disk sizes.. |
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| 20:26.00 | m3F | want to test Lenny LiveCD KDE, where do i find it? |
| 20:27.06 | footballer | any one who want free phones pm me |
| 20:27.07 | footballer | plsssss |
| 20:27.07 | maligor | m3F, there only seems to be a old one |
| 20:27.15 | xand | !ops footballer spamming |
| 20:27.15 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: xand complains about: footballer spamming |
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| 20:27.58 | maligor | m3F, http://debian-live.alioth.debian.org/ |
| 20:28.10 | m3F | thank you maligor |
| 20:28.26 | maligor | m3F, but it seems to be really old |
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| 20:29.29 | maligor | old as in a kde 4 beta |
| 20:29.29 | maligor | 4.0 that is |
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| 20:29.57 | footballer | any one who want to buy free iphones 3gb 4gb 8gb 16gb 32gb pm lee |
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| 20:30.23 | simonrvn | footballer: STFU and go away |
| 20:30.25 | alff21 | hello |
| 20:30.35 | alff21 | i'm need help |
| 20:30.42 | CYberglO | Can anyone help me building a script that changes grub splashimage everytime reboot or shutdown? |
| 20:30.45 | simonrvn | !tell alff21 -about ask |
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| 20:31.18 | simonrvn | tomaw: thank you |
| 20:31.22 | tomaw | np |
| 20:31.23 | xand | also #mplayer |
| 20:31.24 | m3F | maligor, it says Agoust 27th, not that old |
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| 20:31.32 | {xmb} | heh |
| 20:32.04 | maligor | m3F, oh, they have them in the builds downloads |
| 20:32.21 | CYberglO | !tell CYberglO -about ask |
| 20:32.24 | CYberglO | Can anyone help me building a script that changes grub splashimage everytime reboot or shutdown? |
| 20:32.30 | alff21 | mmm... ya lo hice con el dvd 1 y el 4 , no con los 2 y 3 , y no meactualiza nada |
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| 20:32.53 | MXIIA | how do I un tar.bz2 a file? |
| 20:33.18 | CYberglO | how to build a script that changes grub splashimage everytime reboot? |
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| 20:34.33 | dmoerner | MXIIA, tar -jxvpf file |
| 20:34.51 | MXIIA | k |
| 20:34.52 | valdyn | CYberglO: this is not the right channel to get help with programming |
| 20:35.41 | CYberglO | [valdyn]: sry. but do you have any idea where to find my answer? google is not helping me |
| 20:35.41 | maligor | dmoerner, why preserve permissions? |
| 20:35.41 | jescis | I have a lot of untrusted packages in the X11 and gnome apps. what is that about? do I need to change my sources.list file? |
| 20:35.41 | valdyn | CYberglO: im sure google knows alot about bash scripting |
| 20:35.52 | CYberglO | [valdyn]: ok. let me continuous trying. thanks man |
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| 20:36.20 | valdyn | CYberglO: dont put names in brackets like that |
| 20:36.36 | afink | is there a way to update ncurses? I am trying to build zaptel for use with asterisk. It tells me to install ncurses but apt-get install ncurses-base tells me it is already installed. Thanks |
| 20:36.40 | CYberglO | sry, that's my "mirc". |
| 20:36.51 | Wyzard | afink: You need libncurses5-dev |
| 20:37.08 | afink | Thanks Wyzard! |
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| 20:37.33 | Wyzard | afink: Library packages only contain the compiled library for use with programs already compiled against it; to compile new programs using the library, you need the headers, which are in -dev packages |
| 20:37.35 | fr00g | is there any channel for open office? |
| 20:37.38 | Orbixx | Hi Dr. Nick. |
| 20:37.40 | fr00g | or... maybe someone can help me... i have pasted the text, where the column was x cm... now i have a4 document and wonder if there is any way to make the columns widther automatically |
| 20:37.47 | Orbixx | Oh what. |
| 20:37.49 | Orbixx | Wrong channel. |
| 20:37.54 | Orbixx | edges slowly to the channel door. |
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| 20:49.51 | afink | I once found a command to apt-get install the current running kernel and unpack it all at once. Anybody remember what that command was? Or an easy way to install the kernel-source? |
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| 20:55.01 | dmoerner | afink, if you want the kernel source then apt-get install linux-source-2.6.26 or whater version you want |
| 20:55.01 | afink | ok thanks |
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| 20:56.39 | pawbie | afink: apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 20:56.39 | pawbie | ? |
| 20:56.52 | afink | yep that was it Thanks! |
| 20:57.57 | MXIIA | "E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room |
| 20:57.57 | MXIIA | E: Error occurred while processing sqlrelay (NewVersion1) |
| 20:57.57 | MXIIA | E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.debian.org_debian_dists_unstable_main_binary-i386_Packages |
| 20:57.57 | MXIIA | E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened." why am I getting this error? |
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| 20:58.32 | dmoerner | dpkg, tell MXIIA -about dynamic mmap |
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| 20:59.31 | Scramblejams | Howdy all. Last I checked, it was impossible to do an upgrade from a 32-bit to a 64-bit version of Debian, it required a reinstall. Is that still the case? |
| 20:59.40 | hatsefla1s | how can I make debian redo the mysql setup? I broke the debian-sys-maint user on the db by importing a dump from another box |
| 21:00.13 | Scramblejams | hatsefla1s, dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.0? |
| 21:00.44 | jescis | I have a lot of untrusted packages in the X11 and gnome apps. What line is responsible for these? Here's my sources.list file: http://pastebin.ca/1190863 |
| 21:00.47 | Scramblejams | or apt-get install --reinstall mysql-server-5.0, don't know if that'll kill your existing db though. |
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| 21:02.00 | Scramblejams | jescis, probably debian-multimedia.org. You need to install the GPG key for that source, you can go to their site for instructions IIRC. |
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| 21:02.41 | jescis | Scramblejams, ah ok :) |
| 21:02.59 | Scramblejams | jescis, http://www.debian-multimedia.org/faq.php#q1 |
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| 21:04.47 | Scramblejams | hatsefla1s, any of that work? |
| 21:05.05 | Scramblejams | Anybody know whether it's possible to upgrade from 32- to 64-bit Debian directly, without reinstall? |
| 21:05.54 | bolt | heh |
| 21:06.00 | bolt | 91.193.130.40 - - [01/Sep/2008:23:04:31 +0200] "GET //appserv/main.php?appserv_root=http://91.193.130.40/a.txt?& HTTP/1.1" 404 283 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible |
| 21:06.01 | bolt | ; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98)" |
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| 21:08.08 | blabla | I'm trying to instakll debian from floppy on old laptop I "burned" "boot.img" to a floppy but gives me kernel panic at boot, can i do something else? |
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| 21:08.53 | Lethargik | hey dudes, i keep getting crontab e-mail to my root account about no such file. How in the heck to I find and remove this cron job? |
| 21:09.44 | Scramblejams | Lethargik, you tried crontab -e |
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| 21:10.12 | kantor | hi, I need a advise: There are some IOCTL commands defined for CD/DVD devices, like ejecting the tray, closing, setting the speed, and more. Now If I can implement a low level variant of such a command, and send it with SG_IO or CDROM_SEND_PACKET as a low level packet command should I still use in my program the higher level ioctl command or should I use the low level variant ? |
| 21:10.57 | Lethargik | it says there is no crontab for root |
| 21:11.02 | Lethargik | or my user acct |
| 21:11.20 | Scramblejams | That is odd, there should definitely be a crontab for root, just an empty commented one, I think. |
| 21:11.21 | Lethargik | there isnt a way i can find a list of all crontab files is there? |
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| 21:11.48 | Scramblejams | Well, there's looking in /etc/cron.* ... |
| 21:12.06 | Scramblejams | Maybe if it's telling you what the name of the file is, you can grep for it there. |
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| 21:12.56 | Lethargik | ahhh |
| 21:13.10 | Lethargik | I found it guys :o) it was in /etc/cron.d |
| 21:13.18 | Scramblejams | Cool. |
| 21:13.20 | Lethargik | Thanks :o) |
| 21:13.28 | Scramblejams | np |
| 21:14.35 | micols | du -s *|sort -n , i need an alternative to this which will show in human readable format, any ideas, sort seems not to work when -h is used on 'du' ? |
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| 21:15.01 | micols | ofcourse one could do something clever with awk, but i would like to keep it simple :) |
| 21:15.54 | Scramblejams | micols, it's sorting properly with du -hs * | sort -n, except you don't want it to sort properly. :-) |
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| 21:16.02 | jescis | Scramblejams, I have the keyring. I did "apt-get install debian-multimedia-keyring" and it said it was the lates version :/ |
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| 21:16.28 | Scramblejams | Can you paste the key errors you're seeing? |
| 21:16.53 | jescis | probably |
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| 21:17.44 | Scramblejams | irc n00b question: how do I get the server to stop sending me join and quit notifications? |
| 21:18.05 | Octalot | Is there a music-player app that manages multiple playlists like this: a main playlist, with next to each song a set of checkboxes. Then you select sub-playlists by choosing "play only songs with a tick in this tickbox column"? |
| 21:18.08 | Octalot | (does that make sense? I could draw what I'm thinking of) |
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| 21:22.45 | Wyzard | Octalot: Your question makes sense, but I don't know of any such thing |
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| 21:26.30 | screamingbytes | anyone know what tool to use to change the colors in gnome |
| 21:26.46 | screamingbytes | colors like menu's, window foreground, background etc... |
| 21:27.02 | simonrvn | gnome-color-chooser? |
| 21:27.10 | simonrvn | "menus" |
| 21:27.13 | jescis | Scramblejams, by the way I'm running cli only right now |
| 21:27.20 | Wyzard | screamingbytes: System -> Preferences -> Appearance |
| 21:27.28 | simonrvn | 's doesn't make it plural, it makes it possessive |
| 21:27.29 | screamingbytes | doesn't appear to be on my machine, or in apt-cache |
| 21:28.24 | Wyzard | screamingbytes: The Theme tab in that window has a Customize button where you can pick individual combinations of GTK, Metacity, and icon themes |
| 21:28.41 | Wyzard | screamingbytes: In recent versions of GNOME there's also a tab for picking custom colors; in older versions the colors are hard-coded in the GTK theme |
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| 21:29.03 | screamingbytes | Wyzard: Desktop-> Preferences -> Appearance isn't there :( |
| 21:29.16 | screamingbytes | Wyzard: lemme go look see what i need |
| 21:29.22 | Scramblejams | jescis, gpm? |
| 21:29.31 | Wyzard | screamingbytes: then it's probably called Theme instead of Appearance, but if so, you're using an older version of GNOME that doesn't let you pick custom colors |
| 21:29.45 | screamingbytes | Using Etch |
| 21:29.46 | Scramblejams | jescis, if you have a mouse hooked up you can use that to highlight, then middle-click to paste |
| 21:29.47 | Wyzard | screamingbytes: You get whatever colors are specified by the GTK theme |
| 21:30.00 | screamingbytes | Wyzard: Etch? |
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| 21:30.09 | screamingbytes | Wyzard: too old? |
| 21:30.16 | Wyzard | screamingbytes: It's a fairly recent change; it wouldn't surprise me if etch's GNOME doesn't have it |
| 21:30.28 | Wyzard | screamingbytes: lenny's should though |
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| 21:31.14 | screamingbytes | Wyzard: ok, ty, ill go read a bit, see what i can figure out. I do have the Theme, but I can't do squat with that |
| 21:31.41 | Wyzard | screamingbytes: You can change your GTK theme to one with different colors |
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| 21:32.40 | screamingbytes | Wyzard: yea I think i have to make a theme, I was hoping to just change the colors |
| 21:32.42 | Octalot | Wyzard: thanks |
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| 21:36.33 | dante_2core | darn sry for the ping |
| 21:37.39 | micols | Scramblejams: hm it doesn't sort kB correctly here with -sh |
| 21:38.47 | micols | i get like 1.4G then 233M then 738M then 276G |
| 21:38.55 | micols | it doesn't sort correctly |
| 21:39.36 | Scramblejams | micols, I was making a point. It's sorting alphabetically, because sort doesn't know anything about the difference between "1.4G" and "1.5M", all it knows is "1.5" should come after "1.4". So you're going to need to do something a bit more complicated to get what you want. |
| 21:40.01 | \amethyst | micols: you will have to not use -h, then postprocess the output |
| 21:40.12 | micols | yes i thought so |
| 21:40.26 | \amethyst | micols: sort doesn't know that G means 'times 2**30' |
| 21:40.46 | micols | then perhaps replace all G's by 000 |
| 21:40.54 | micols | whops |
| 21:40.59 | micols | ks by 0000 :) |
| 21:41.03 | micols | 000 , damn typos |
| 21:41.12 | \amethyst | micols: 1.4000 isn't 1400 |
| 21:41.26 | micols | just got myself a 'new' olivetti keyboard from the 286 time :) |
| 21:41.39 | Scramblejams | Olivetti FTW! |
| 21:41.53 | testi | Is it possible to send an email so that it is delivered after at a certain date? |
| 21:42.01 | testi | -after |
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| 21:42.17 | Scramblejams | testi, you're going to have to hang onto the email and not send it until you want it delivered. |
| 21:42.20 | micols | no, mails are instant, but your email may be delayed |
| 21:42.34 | micols | if server thinks its spam or queue is filled etc. but best is to delay sending it yourself |
| 21:43.06 | Scramblejams | micols, doesn't that have a huge old keyboard connector on it? |
| 21:43.21 | micols | Scramblejams: i guess i was lucky to get an atx version of it :) |
| 21:43.35 | micols | you're thinking of good old AT standard keyboard :) |
| 21:43.45 | micols | with that DIN9 connector i think it was |
| 21:43.49 | Scramblejams | Ah yeah, love those things with the scissor keys... |
| 21:43.50 | micols | din anyway |
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| 21:44.33 | iEatChildren | how do i make a service start at boot with debian? |
| 21:44.40 | Scramblejams | micols, apparently it's complicated, haha: http://www.instructables.com/id/Breathe_new_life_into_an_older_din_5_computer_keyb/ |
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| 21:44.50 | micols | update-rc.d iEatChildren |
| 21:45.08 | micols | or do it manually, but generally one shouldn't do anything manual when there is a program for it :) |
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| 21:45.40 | micols | or the program loses its purpose and is deleted |
| 21:45.42 | Scramblejams | iEatChildren: update-rc.d <init.d script name> defaults |
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| 21:46.22 | Scramblejams | hatsefla1s, how's it comin'? |
| 21:47.07 | folken | somebody got an idea how to get pppd to add its default route in addtion to the current default route ? |
| 21:47.15 | micols | route add |
| 21:47.17 | Scramblejams | folken, can we have more than one default route? |
| 21:47.32 | folken | Scramblejams: yes. and you can choose with metric which one to take. |
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| 21:47.40 | Scramblejams | folken, cool. :-) |
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| 21:47.56 | micols | didn't know you could have multiple defaults :) |
| 21:48.29 | folken | i'd like to have a seamless handover on my notebook between lan/wlan/umts |
| 21:48.30 | Scramblejams | micols, that how to is making me jones for an old AT keyboard... |
| 21:48.52 | Scramblejams | folken, you tried something like gnome's network-manager applet? it's designed for that sort of thing |
| 21:49.30 | folken | Scramblejams: yes, but it fails when i want to be in multiple networks at the same time. |
| 21:49.37 | folken | e.g. wired and wlan |
| 21:49.46 | Scramblejams | folken, hmm, I'm sure they'd appreciate a bug report. |
| 21:50.00 | Scramblejams | or a patch! :-) |
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| 21:50.23 | micols | Scramblejams: nothing beats a typematrix keyboard, but unfortunately i have to use normal keyboards at work |
| 21:50.35 | jMCg | Hello happy people. |
| 21:50.48 | folken | Scramblejams: in general it seems to be the case that at least debian packagers don't like bug reports. Even if they contain the solution. |
| 21:50.53 | Scramblejams | I've got some RSI so I'm on a Kinesis Advantage Pro :-( I'll check the typematrix out... |
| 21:51.08 | folken | Scramblejams: twiddler :) |
| 21:51.08 | jMCg | I just accidently destroyed my /etc/fstab, and was wondering if someone here could provide me with his. |
| 21:51.21 | folken | jMCg: cat /proc/mounts |
| 21:51.25 | Scramblejams | folken, is it a debian packaging bug? Or is it an upstream bug? |
| 21:51.26 | micols | your fingers will love it, and i type as fast on it as on normal keyboards, but with less strain much less. |
| 21:51.32 | micols | its even got dvorak in hardware. |
| 21:51.35 | jMCg | I've reconstructed a great deal from mount, but that's not all, or too much. |
| 21:51.49 | micols | i got 5 of those keyboards, 4 of them 2020 |
| 21:52.05 | micols | they're that good :) |
| 21:52.17 | Scramblejams | micols, weird, hmm... |
| 21:52.39 | jMCg | folken: as I said. |
| 21:53.01 | micols | Scramblejams: http://shell2.eushells.com/~dh/img/IMG_3481.JPG |
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| 21:53.18 | micols | thats the old model, which i used extensively on my old typist job. |
| 21:53.31 | Scramblejams | micols, that's rad looking. It's so tiny it would make an excellent server keyboard. |
| 21:53.37 | micols | its better than it looks, but the new model even has alu finish and piano finish onbottom :) |
| 21:53.54 | micols | the new model looks really nice, i love it. |
| 21:54.04 | Scramblejams | micols, that your rig? Now I'm wondering what that card is on top of the PC case. |
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| 21:54.23 | jMCg | For instance, do I have to put all those devfs, tmpfs, and so on in the /etc/fstab... |
| 21:54.35 | micols | Scramblejams: an old centrino laptop i played with :) |
| 21:54.42 | micols | used it as a server :) |
| 21:54.56 | folken | jMCg: no you need proc any real filesystems |
| 21:55.02 | folken | sysfs |
| 21:55.24 | jMCg | http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/stable/chapter08/fstab.html |
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| 21:55.34 | jMCg | Ah.. been some months, but I remembered it := |
| 21:55.36 | folken | infact my fstab doesn't even list proc and sysfs |
| 21:55.48 | micols | and the cell phone is my sms gateway, hurray for gnokii :) |
| 21:55.51 | maligor | micols, draining the blue smoke out of your computer with that pipe? |
| 21:56.19 | maligor | or is re-pressurizing the bluesmoke |
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| 21:56.33 | Scramblejams | jMCg, http://pastebin.ca/1190898 |
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| 21:56.43 | Scramblejams | FWIW, that's mine. |
| 21:56.44 | micols | yeah its hooked to a 2000psi hydraulic pump, or not :) |
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| 21:58.08 | micols | i used to type 16hours a day on those tm keyboards, i would say i had about half the strain in my fingers on them compared to standard keyboards (even with wrist support) |
| 21:58.31 | micols | and a little better cps and little less error rate |
| 21:58.33 | folken | Scramblejams: if packages.debian.org wasn't so incredible slow.. |
| 21:58.59 | jMCg | Scramblejams: huh... hmm... what about /media/cdrom or stuff like that? |
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| 21:59.55 | Scramblejams | jMCg, oops, sorry, cut some of my custom stuff out and dropped those. Reload it. |
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| 22:00.35 | folken | Scramblejams: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=472624 |
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| 22:01.18 | folken | aptitude: Oh, oh, it's an error! possibly I die! |
| 22:01.37 | screamingbytes | jMCg: do you use vim? |
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| 22:02.29 | Scramblejams | folken, yeah, I had a similar thing -- a pptpd security upgrade (etch) broke its out-of-the-box compatibility with Windows' VPN client. Bad, bad thing. Took weeks for the maintainer to fix it, because he didn't use it in that configuration. |
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| 22:03.09 | Scramblejams | I gotta go, see y'all! |
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| 22:04.05 | jMCg | screamingbytes: of course. |
| 22:04.21 | screamingbytes | jMCg: do you have a backup of your fstab? |
| 22:04.37 | screamingbytes | jMCg: that is of course if you have vim configured to keep backups |
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| 22:04.45 | jMCg | screamingbytes: mount | tail -1 > /etc/fstab doesn't leave a backup. |
| 22:05.07 | micols | screamingbytes: how is it you disable vim backups? |
| 22:05.27 | screamingbytes | micols: you enable them and swap file's |
| 22:05.59 | screamingbytes | jMCg: you'd have the last backup from when you edited it |
| 22:06.04 | micols | screamingbytes: i want to disable it, i dont like it backing up :) |
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| 22:06.12 | screamingbytes | set nobackup |
| 22:06.13 | micols | or otherwise i want the msg disabled |
| 22:06.22 | screamingbytes | or set !backup |
| 22:06.33 | micols | i would find it disturbing with lots of .swp files in /etc and the like |
| 22:06.36 | micols | :) |
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| 22:06.54 | micols | thanks |
| 22:06.58 | \amethyst | micols: the .swp files are supposed to be deleted when you exit vim |
| 22:06.58 | screamingbytes | i direct all of my backups into a single directory, same with swap files |
| 22:07.31 | screamingbytes | micols: what msg? |
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| 22:08.22 | micols | i suppose a .swp file is a good idea, but i dont like the recover message |
| 22:08.29 | micols | if i try to open same file twice. |
| 22:08.31 | micols | in 2 vims. |
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| 22:08.41 | screamingbytes | delete the swap and back up file and the msg goes away |
| 22:08.57 | micols | yes, but i don't want that message ever :) |
| 22:08.57 | \amethyst | micols: open it read-only the second time |
| 22:09.10 | micols | uh, what if i want to edit same file over NFS on two systems? |
| 22:09.14 | screamingbytes | micols: its because vim had an issue closing one time |
| 22:09.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | tsk, tsk Nyle |
| 22:09.20 | \amethyst | micols: at the same time? |
| 22:09.29 | micols | \amethyst: not saving at same time :) |
| 22:09.36 | micols | just open write at same time. |
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| 22:10.31 | \amethyst | micols: :set shortmess+=A |
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| 22:11.02 | micols | i am still confused that sometimes my vim is 6-8seconds to start and vim.tiny starts in 0.1s |
| 22:11.17 | micols | and its with a very basic .vimrc , not macros in it |
| 22:11.18 | screamingbytes | micols: lol |
| 22:11.19 | \amethyst | micols: are you running in X? |
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| 22:11.26 | micols | no, without x.. vim.full |
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| 22:11.32 | \amethyst | micols: does vim -X run any faster? |
| 22:12.40 | micols | \amethyst: i think so, i think i recall using that parameter to fix it before, but right now it runs fast for some reason.. |
| 22:12.55 | \amethyst | micols: then the problem might be that it's trying to connect to the X server |
| 22:12.59 | micols | it worked first time, now vim launches fast after first run |
| 22:13.05 | micols | -X made it faster it seemed. |
| 22:13.21 | micols | yes.. i think thats the problem it tries to make a tcp connection or the like, sockets |
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| 22:13.38 | micols | feels like such a delay :) |
| 22:13.54 | micols | its because it reads my DISPLAY env? |
| 22:14.09 | micols | i normally run vim under X, i answered no because i tried in ssh also |
| 22:14.10 | \amethyst | micols: yes... vim.full will try to connect to the X server is DISPLAY is set |
| 22:14.22 | \amethyst | s/is D/if D/ |
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| 22:14.29 | micols | makes sense then, thanks :) |
| 22:14.43 | \amethyst | micols: (even the terminal vim, so that it can access the X clipboard with "+ and "* ) |
| 22:15.04 | chomwitt | why could netselect works but netselect-apt complains about a firewall blocking tracerout? |
| 22:17.49 | micols | \amethyst: i guess shame on me for installing vim.full on my server then, isnt it gvim etc?:) |
| 22:18.22 | micols | but i had some weird issues which persisted until i installed vim.full, couldnt use i or insert either local or over ssh. |
| 22:18.56 | micols | i recall already mentioning them for you, so thats why i resorted to installing vim.full |
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| 22:20.55 | \amethyst | micols: perhaps you want plain 'vim' (on etch) or 'vim-nox' (on lenny and sid) |
| 22:21.26 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm trying to configure my network interface with nothing more than an IPv4 address. "iface eth1 inet static", "address 10.254.254.1", "netmask 24" is the extent of the configuration. Whenever I bring it up though, it whines with "SIOCSIFNETMASK: Invalid argument" and says "failed" - yet the interface is functional. |
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| 22:21.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Anyone know why it would say failed and not register it as being up, despite the interface being up? |
| 22:21.58 | Wyzard | ScytheBlade1: I think you have to specify the netmask as 255.255.255.0 |
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| 22:22.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Wyzard: worth a shot, sec |
| 22:22.26 | Wyzard | ScytheBlade1: "SIOCSIFNETMASK: Invalid argument" means it failed to set the netmask due to your input being invalid |
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| 22:22.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Wyzard: yeah, and now it works. The annoying thing being this example is telling me to use 24 instead of 255.255.255.0. |
| 22:23.09 | abrotman | doesn't it say /24 ? |
| 22:23.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Nope, just "24" |
| 22:23.24 | abrotman | okay then |
| 22:23.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Broken example :D |
| 22:23.47 | micols | \amethyst: thanks for the advice, i cannot remember if i tried plain vim, but i would think so as i tried vim basic and full, although not sure, might have forgotten it ;) |
| 22:23.48 | abrotman | in a man page or online? |
| 22:23.51 | ScytheBlade1 | online |
| 22:23.56 | abrotman | oh |
| 22:24.06 | abrotman | i read it on the internet .. it must be true! |
| 22:24.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, no worries |
| 22:24.09 | ScytheBlade1 | hehe |
| 22:24.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Rather new to debian specifically, normally I just write out some commands with iproute2, throw it in a script and call it good |
| 22:24.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Figured that I'd try to use the system init scripts this round |
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| 22:25.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Thanks, Wyzard and abrotman |
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| 22:27.56 | Lagbolt | is there a link that lists keyboard variants for setxkbmap? so i can switch to international dead keys and what not |
| 22:29.22 | deakillo | hi |
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| 22:29.42 | deakillo | im using debian with xfce.. and i want to use a new mouse theme.. some guy told me that i should download it on .icons |
| 22:29.45 | deakillo | but that didnt work |
| 22:29.48 | deakillo | any idea? |
| 22:30.14 | screamingbytes | install mouse themes? |
| 22:30.39 | screamingbytes | i installed Gnome mouse themes and they worked in Xfce |
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| 22:32.46 | jescis | screamingbytes, http://pastebin.ca/1190917 is a screen dump of aptitude |
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| 22:34.41 | Sofus2004 | Is there a way to reset your debian install? start over if you will? |
| 22:34.43 | p1ngp0ng | is there a debian bible out there? |
| 22:35.21 | abrotman | p1ngp0ng: there is a ton of documentation on the debian.org website |
| 22:35.28 | abrotman | Sofus2004: reset what part of it? |
| 22:35.50 | Sofus2004 | Well, I think I made a mess when I was installing programs. |
| 22:36.00 | abrotman | be less vague |
| 22:36.01 | newsense | p1ngp0ng: install debfoster |
| 22:36.07 | p1ngp0ng | abrotman: yes i know, but is tere a book of some sort that is spesific for debian which covers all subjects related to debian? |
| 22:36.12 | abrotman | newsense: wrong person .. and i don't think that's what he means |
| 22:36.16 | abrotman | p1ngp0ng: there are a few |
| 22:36.18 | abrotman | !books |
| 22:36.18 | dpkg | books is, like, http://www.debian.org/doc/books |
| 22:36.24 | p1ngp0ng | thanks |
| 22:36.25 | abrotman | but they may be out of date |
| 22:36.37 | p1ngp0ng | well, ofc they are :P |
| 22:36.38 | Sofus2004 | I cant get rtorrent to compile, I think there is something wrong with lighttpd |
| 22:36.53 | Sofus2004 | My samba shares dosent work properly |
| 22:36.56 | newsense | abrotman: yeah wrong person but might help a little |
| 22:37.01 | p1ngp0ng | newsense: whats debfoster? |
| 22:37.08 | abrotman | not for you |
| 22:37.11 | p1ngp0ng | oh ok |
| 22:37.14 | newsense | aptitude show debfoster |
| 22:37.28 | newsense | sorry p1ngp0ng |
| 22:37.33 | amphi | Sofus2004: why are you compiling rtorrent? |
| 22:37.39 | p1ngp0ng | newsense: np |
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| 22:37.49 | abrotman | Sofus2004: there is an rtorrent in etch |
| 22:38.04 | Sofus2004 | I was told to get the svn version of it. |
| 22:38.13 | jelly-home | because...? |
| 22:38.24 | Sofus2004 | It had some kinda feature I apparently needed. |
| 22:38.34 | deakillo | screamingbytes: but where did you download the gnome mouse themes? |
| 22:38.36 | jelly-home | oh. all right then |
| 22:38.47 | Sofus2004 | I think it was the svn could move files on completion. |
| 22:38.56 | Sofus2004 | And the etch version couldent. |
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| 22:40.12 | Yakreiter | hi ... can anyone help me? debian is booting into a read-only filesystem and I get "INIT: cannot execute "/etc/init.d/rcS"" what can I do? |
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| 22:41.30 | heroxbd | Hello. How can I specify multiple search entries in /etc/resolv.conf? I am in two local domains. |
| 22:42.55 | micols | heroxbd: add nameservers of both domains in there |
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| 22:43.14 | micols | with seperate lines like 'nameserver x.x.x.x' |
| 22:44.15 | jelly-home | micols: um... search entry != nameserver entry |
| 22:44.26 | jelly-home | heroxbd: space separate them |
| 22:44.50 | jelly-home | heroxbd: search zg.iskon.hr iskon.local iskon.hr |
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| 22:45.39 | heroxbd | jelly-home: yes, that works. and thanks, micols :) |
| 22:46.07 | cbk486 | Hello, I have just installed kde4 along with gnome and now I don't like it on my lenny install. Is there an easy way to remove kde? |
| 22:46.21 | Flashtek | I has a question regards networking and /etc/network/interfaces... I have a system with two NICs but I want to ensure that a specific device is setup as eth0 eth1 etc.. should I use "hwaddress ether 00:xx:xx:xx:xx..." or is some other method better ? |
| 22:46.34 | abrotman | Yakreiter: does it ask you to fsck the drive? |
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| 22:46.53 | jelly-home | cbk486: "/msg dpkg remove kde" works for the usual kde3 |
| 22:46.57 | heroxbd | cbk486: Just use your favourite package manager and remove the packages belong to kde4. |
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| 22:47.14 | abrotman | Flashtek: look in the /etc/udev/rules.d/ .. there is a netowrking file that has MACs and eth* aliases |
| 22:47.24 | jelly-home | wasn't aware kde4 was to be shipped in lenny |
| 22:47.30 | abrotman | it's not? |
| 22:47.41 | heroxbd | Flashtek: I think you need consider udev. |
| 22:47.43 | jelly-home | but... he said. O:-) |
| 22:48.16 | jelly-home | !z25 |
| 22:48.16 | dpkg | As of version 0.090, udev has the ability to statically rename ethernet cards based on MAC address. The addresses are configured in /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules . If you want the mappings to change, edit that file. See <forcedeth mac>. As of version 0.124-1 the file is called /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules . |
| 22:48.30 | deakillo | hello, i want to use some mouse themes and some guy told me i need to download does to .icons in order to use.. but that didnt work.. any idea? |
| 22:48.32 | cbk486 | Thanks for the help :) |
| 22:49.50 | Yakreiter | abrotman: no.. I just get "(none) login:" but I can't log in |
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| 22:50.10 | abrotman | Yakreiter: maybe try booting init=/bin/sh |
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| 22:50.11 | Flashtek | thanks guys.. |
| 22:50.18 | abrotman | Yakreiter: see if you've got files in lost+found |
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| 22:52.26 | heroxbd | deakillo: If you are using any of the desktop environment (Gnome/KDE/Xfce) it can be configured with a "control panel" or like. If you want to change the X behavior, maybe it is a kind of Xresource -- I haven't tried myself yet. |
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| 22:59.15 | MarGarina | Is there a way to VERIFY package contents with dpkg or other tool? something like rpm -qV.. |
| 22:59.18 | MarGarina | can't find in manpage |
| 22:59.39 | heroxbd | MarGarina: dpkg -L <package> |
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| 22:59.54 | MarGarina | heroxbd: it only lists, I want to compare md5s |
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| 23:01.52 | heroxbd | MarGarina: You mean, to verify if the package is not broken? |
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| 23:02.20 | MarGarina | heroxbd: yes, or more correct, to see which files got changed. |
| 23:02.32 | Paul_UK | hi all. whats better to install vncserver or vnc4server and which one allows you to start up the service via /etc/init.d ? thanks |
| 23:02.42 | MarGarina | rpm -qV is great for that. but Deian is better than RPM based distros :) |
| 23:03.09 | heroxbd | MarGarina: Have you looked up the manpage of dpkg-deb? I guess that's what you want. |
| 23:03.15 | pogay | I still have problems with my exim4 virtual domains. this seem's not difficult: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/140 but my virtual/domain.tld don't seem to have an effect. |
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| 23:05.41 | pogay | for example when i send a mail to mail@alltagswaerme.ch i get an error "unroutable" adress, while the user alltagsw@alltagswaerme.ch receives the mail |
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| 23:11.46 | pogay | what I see know ist the the user alltagsw is routable with different urls, and mail is defined in /etc/password as user, and it's not routed. |
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| 23:15.49 | firebird6191 | I have a question. I am trying to print a 2x3 in. photo on a 4x6 in. photo paper from OpenOffice.org Writer. I have tried both Portrait and Landscape. I have it set for Photo paper in printer settings, but when it prints, it is just printing a portion of the photo in the bottom corner. Does anyone know how I can solve this so it prints correctly? |
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| 23:19.10 | intx | hi |
| 23:19.24 | intx | how do I check what app is opening a certain port? |
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| 23:19.32 | abrotman | intx: fuser or lsof |
| 23:19.38 | intx | thanks |
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| 23:21.20 | simonrvn | fuser for a port? |
| 23:21.27 | simonrvn | tries this |
| 23:21.56 | simonrvn | -n SPACE search in this name space (file, udp, or tcp) |
| 23:22.00 | abrotman | simonrvn: fuser -n tcp <portnum> |
| 23:22.27 | Flashtek | woo, shiny happy server with multiple network ports :-) |
| 23:22.35 | Flashtek | thanks for the pointers guys :-) |
| 23:23.04 | Zharf | o.O |
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| 23:26.51 | firebird6191 | Could someone help me with printing a photo from OpenOffice.org Writer? |
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| 23:27.16 | Wyzard | firebird6191: Why are you using a word processor to print a picture? |
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| 23:27.32 | BlackMagik | what can be the possible cause for the error "In function 'kernel_thread_helper/sys_call_table'" .. "undefined reference to sys_helloworld" it is called from built-in.o |
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| 23:28.25 | firebird6191 | Wyzard: Well I imported the picture and added border and text and so forth and Writer is what did what I wanted to do. Now I am trying to print this 2x3 in. picture on a 4x6 in. paper and it is printing it in the bottom corner and cutting off the majority of the picture. |
| 23:28.31 | Wyzard | BlackMagik: Are you experimenting with writing a kernel module? |
| 23:28.51 | BlackMagik | Wyzard, i'm adding a new system call. sys_helloworld |
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| 23:29.12 | Wyzard | BlackMagik: That looks like a linker error, saying it couldn't find the definition of your function |
| 23:29.13 | BlackMagik | i added it to syscall_table_32.S and unistd_32.h |
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| 23:29.45 | BlackMagik | i'm running it using "make-kpkg kernel_image --initrd" |
| 23:29.49 | Wyzard | BlackMagik: Did you forget to write it, or forget to add the source file to the makefiles so it gets compiled? |
| 23:30.23 | BlackMagik | Wyzard, in the helloworld directory I have "obj-y := helloworld.o" |
| 23:30.37 | BlackMagik | that's for the Makefile for my new sys call |
| 23:30.50 | Wyzard | In the make output, do you see helloworld.c being compiled? |
| 23:31.16 | BlackMagik | Wyzard, no. should i add the gcc line for it? |
| 23:31.24 | Wyzard | Note that I'm not familiar with the kernel's Makefile structure (so I have no idea what "obj-y" is or whether it's the right place to add your new object file) |
| 23:31.34 | Paul_UK | hi all. whats better to install vncserver or vnc4server and which one allows you to start up the service via /etc/init.d ? thanks |
| 23:32.27 | Wyzard | BlackMagik: Find the lines that cause the normal system calls to be compiled, and imitate what they do |
| 23:33.49 | BlackMagik | Wyzard, yea that's pretty much what i did |
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| 23:34.24 | firebird6191 | Wyzard: Do you know what I could do to get my picture to print correctly? Is there a way I could export the picture from Writer to another program to print it correctly? |
| 23:34.30 | Wyzard | BlackMagik: dunno then... there are probably other channels that are better places to ask about kernel development, or tutorials online |
| 23:34.36 | BlackMagik | Wyzard, i'll give it another try and see what happens |
| 23:34.55 | Wyzard | firebird6191: I don't have much experience with OpenOffice, but if I needed to print a picture, I'd use GIMP |
| 23:35.20 | Wyzard | firebird6191: You said something about adding a border and caption, though, so you're printing more than just the picture |
| 23:36.11 | firebird6191 | Wyzard: Yes, and the main reason I didn't use GIMP was because I couldn't figure out how to curve the text. Is there a way to do that in GIMP? |
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| 23:39.08 | Wyzard | firebird6191: Not that I know of, but I'm not a GIMP expert |
| 23:39.52 | firebird6191 | Wyzard: Ok, Thank you very much for your help. |
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| 23:46.26 | robin_sz | so, I have 2 sarge boxes, on I do "apt-get install nagios-nrpe-server" and it all happens, the other one claims to not be able to find it from the sources list, even after an apt-get update |
| 23:47.12 | pipeline | NRPE makes children cry |
| 23:47.31 | robin_sz | the problem box has main, contrib and non-free, the succesful box only has main ... humph |
| 23:47.58 | x1938 | hello everyone |
| 23:48.10 | robin_sz | hello x1938 |
| 23:48.56 | h3king | morning.everyone |
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| 23:50.39 | robin_sz | even with same /etc/apt/sources.list one box can install that package, the other fails to find it :( |
| 23:51.13 | amal029 | do apt-cache search on prob box |
| 23:51.32 | robin_sz | yep, did that first, it finds it |
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| 23:52.02 | robin_sz | debian:/home/robin# apt-cache search nagios-nrpe-server |
| 23:52.02 | robin_sz | nagios-nrpe-server - Nagios Remote Plugin Exectutor Server |
| 23:52.09 | x1938 | did you update after editing sources.list ? |
| 23:52.15 | robin_sz | yep |
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| 23:52.55 | robin_sz | E: Package nagios-nrpe-server has no installation candidate |
| 23:52.57 | x1938 | did you get any errors when updating ? |
| 23:53.00 | robin_sz | nope |
| 23:53.13 | robin_sz | update ran smoooooooooooth |
| 23:53.22 | x1938 | what are you trying to install ? |
| 23:53.33 | robin_sz | do I need goats blood and chicken bones again? |
| 23:53.45 | robin_sz | nagios-nrpe-server |
| 23:54.04 | x1938 | :S didn't see that sorry |
| 23:54.20 | robin_sz | sarge boxen |
| 23:54.36 | robin_sz | i know ... |
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| 23:54.42 | dmoerner | robin_sz, it should work: nagios-nrpe-server | 2.0-7 | oldstable | alpha, arm, hppa, i386, ia64, m68k, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc |
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| 23:55.13 | robin_sz | one box did, the other didnt :( |
| 23:55.23 | robin_sz | i know it SHOULD work |
| 23:57.03 | amal029 | install from diferent server on prob box, I know this is stupid since you have exactly same sources.list on both boxes |
| 23:57.16 | robin_sz | hmm |
| 23:57.29 | robin_sz | prob box has a 2.6.8 kernel ... |
| 23:57.31 | x1938 | sudo apt-get update again robin_sz |
| 23:57.41 | x1938 | then tell us what happens |
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| 23:58.26 | robin_sz | same result ... |
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| 23:58.40 | x1938 | that was fast :/ |
| 23:58.43 | dmoerner | robin_sz, what is the output of apt-cache policy whatever that thing is called? |
| 23:59.13 | robin_sz | ooh, point |
| 23:59.48 | robin_sz | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:59.49 | robin_sz | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:59.49 | robin_sz | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:59.49 | robin_sz | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:59.49 | robin_sz | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:59.49 | robin_sz | <PROTECTED> |
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