| 00:00.13 | tyler2435 | hehe |
| 00:00.14 | amphi | enouf: bigger GL_MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE ? ;) |
| 00:00.21 | enouf | but this SBLive is atleast a nice improvement over the onboard en1371 - now it's the emu10k1 |
| 00:00.21 | amphi | maybe |
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| 00:00.36 | enouf | amphi: heh, glxinfo for that stuff eh? |
| 00:00.59 | amphi | enouf: but not with nv, probably - you could try nouveau, perhaps |
| 00:01.08 | amphi | enouf: glxinfo -l |
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| 00:02.58 | enouf | amphi: do you happen to know if the xorg.conf setting of "VideoRam" 32768 under Section Drivers matters? i mean i see in Xorg.0.log this -> (--) NV(0): VideoRAM: 65536 kBytes |
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| 00:03.31 | Zambezi | abrotman: How can I edit the rule I just made? I set no on a rule/role I needed to be yes. |
| 00:03.34 | enouf | amphi: yeah, i might actually try the stupid legacy blobs ;-P |
| 00:04.06 | enouf | amphi: oh, and i added more system RAM, from 320 -> 512 now ;-) |
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| 00:04.22 | enouf | amphi: i'm "movin' on up" |
| 00:04.25 | dudeman | pin |
| 00:04.32 | dudeman | my irssi has started to kick ass |
| 00:04.43 | amphi | enouf: nassty blobssess? |
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| 00:05.04 | amphi | pon |
| 00:05.07 | dudeman | dude |
| 00:05.22 | dudeman | 320? |
| 00:05.27 | dudeman | sighs |
| 00:05.30 | enouf | crap - i gotta run out! .. darnnit! |
| 00:05.35 | enouf | bbl - thanks guys |
| 00:05.39 | amphi | enouf: might be worth looking at nouveau; I've never had an nvidia card |
| 00:05.52 | abrotman | Zambezi: is there an alteruser ? |
| 00:05.53 | dudeman | amphi, dude you know the cool vista thing |
| 00:05.54 | dudeman | :) |
| 00:06.12 | dudeman | amphi, how do I get those color bubbles or balloons bouncin' around my compiz desktop? |
| 00:06.28 | dudeman | amphi, you know of a repository of plugins for deb? |
| 00:06.34 | amphi | dudeman: dunno - I'm not using compiz these days |
| 00:06.39 | dudeman | how come? |
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| 00:07.16 | amphi | the git version started to misbehave, and I couldn't be bothered to wrestle with it, so I reverted to awesome |
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| 00:07.42 | amphi | it may be fixed now, I havent't pulled for a while |
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| 00:07.52 | Sling | is anybody using compiz on the eee pc 901 here btw? |
| 00:08.01 | Sling | wonder how smooth it runs |
| 00:08.08 | abrotman | i can't imagine it runs at all .. |
| 00:08.15 | abrotman | !eeepc |
| 00:08.15 | dpkg | from memory, eee is see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC, or #debian-eeepc on irc.oftc.net, or see http://debian-eeepc.alioth.debian.org/ See also <atl2>. |
| 00:08.17 | amphi | Sling: what video card is in it? intel x3100? |
| 00:08.38 | abrotman | i thought it was via ? |
| 00:08.44 | Zambezi | abrotman: It might work anyway. I'm making a db now. It was just no tabcompletion. |
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| 00:08.45 | Sling | Intel 945GSE |
| 00:08.51 | amphi | has no idea |
| 00:09.01 | Sling | GMA 950 |
| 00:09.04 | Sling | me neither |
| 00:09.12 | Sling | ah well ill just try it out once i get it |
| 00:09.21 | amphi | Sling: should run fine on that; some of the effects that need cpu might not go too well, depending on the cpu |
| 00:09.27 | Sling | atom 1,6 ghz |
| 00:09.46 | amphi | I know nothing about it |
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| 00:10.02 | amphi | but that card is quite capable of running compiz |
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| 00:10.19 | dudeman | awesome? |
| 00:10.46 | amphi | awesome wm |
| 00:10.46 | Sling | hm it has no hardware geometry processing, so yea cpu intensive itll be |
| 00:10.48 | dudeman | animated statusbar with scrolling text is nice |
| 00:10.58 | Sling | slaps dudeman |
| 00:11.00 | dudeman | now I can finally see the entire topic of #debian |
| 00:11.04 | Sling | scrolling text is never nice |
| 00:11.05 | dudeman | Sling, dude.. |
| 00:11.09 | Sling | man |
| 00:11.14 | dudeman | seriously |
| 00:11.16 | dudeman | go fuck yourself? |
| 00:11.26 | Sling | ..? |
| 00:11.39 | abrotman | dudeman: stop |
| 00:11.40 | amphi | Sling: it has some, I believe; I have a 965 here, and only some quite unnecessary effects put any load at all on the cpu |
| 00:11.52 | dudeman | abrotman, 08:10 * Sling slaps dudeman |
| 00:12.16 | Sling | amphi : yea im not going for the whole wobbly windows mess |
| 00:12.16 | abrotman | so what .. you don't have to react to everything .. you're here enough to know how to act .. it's really time you start |
| 00:12.16 | dudeman | I like the wobbly windows plugin |
| 00:12.22 | amphi | dudeman: scrolling text? eeww |
| 00:12.22 | dudeman | abrotman, you're right. |
| 00:12.34 | dudeman | Sling, my bad. |
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| 00:12.43 | amphi | dudeman: you've just reinvented the <marquee> tag *shudder* |
| 00:12.49 | Sling | no problemo, no bad feelings intended |
| 00:12.59 | dudeman | dude, I HATE it when I have to type /topic |
| 00:13.01 | dudeman | no more! |
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| 00:13.21 | dudeman | now I see entire topics in the topicbar now. |
| 00:13.38 | amphi | read the /topic? what are you saying, man? |
| 00:13.40 | dudeman | minus one now. Eitherway, so hmm.. I'm kinda getting sick n tired of kde |
| 00:13.52 | dudeman | seriously you have no idea! |
| 00:13.55 | Snadder | Why does debian-multimedia.org's ffmpeg from etch have h264 support.. but not the one from lenny? |
| 00:14.05 | dudeman | Snadder, /msg dpkg dmm |
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| 00:14.11 | dudeman | Snadder, that should explain why |
| 00:14.26 | dudeman | amphi, and split windows are kick ass too |
| 00:14.55 | jelly-home | Snadder: you're comparing debian's lenny to dmm etch, or dmm lenny package to dmm etch? |
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| 00:15.07 | amphi | I don't like 'em myself, but each to their own; adv_windowlist.pl is a winnar though, IMHO |
| 00:15.18 | dudeman | jelly-home, he wanted to know why lenny doesn't have that codec support. |
| 00:15.30 | dudeman | jelly-home, I'm guessing becuase of "patent related reasons" ? |
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| 00:15.47 | dudeman | amphi, oh.. |
| 00:15.57 | dudeman | fires up his /scriptassist :) |
| 00:16.15 | jelly-home | dudeman: that's assuming my latter option is true |
| 00:16.20 | dudeman | hm its not available in the debian irssi-scripts pack? |
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| 00:16.44 | amphi | dudeman: I don't think so; I got it from irssi.org, IIRC |
| 00:16.46 | costal79 | hi people |
| 00:16.52 | costal79 | I'm using debian woody for sparc |
| 00:17.01 | dudeman | I see |
| 00:17.02 | costal79 | and I need to install some snmp packages |
| 00:17.11 | fignew | costal79: :) |
| 00:17.14 | amphi | dudeman: trackbar.pl is handy too, I find |
| 00:17.15 | costal79 | however I can't find any repositorie for this |
| 00:17.20 | costal79 | is there any archive ? |
| 00:17.26 | dudeman | http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssi |
| 00:17.43 | costal79 | where I can get packages for old debians ? |
| 00:18.04 | fignew | costal79: I switched do netbsd when deb dropped sparc :( |
| 00:18.38 | costal79 | ;( |
| 00:18.47 | jelly-home | fignew: s/debian/linux/ |
| 00:18.52 | costal79 | so there is no place where I can find the packages for this release ? |
| 00:18.53 | dudeman | !tell costal79 -about sdn |
| 00:19.07 | abrotman | wrong |
| 00:19.13 | abrotman | !tell costal79 about archive |
| 00:19.21 | dudeman | hm |
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| 00:19.24 | abrotman | costal79: you want the last one |
| 00:19.39 | dudeman | I thought sdn held ALL packageks ever for any debian |
| 00:19.53 | dudeman | or are older debians no longer available via packages and only in archived format? |
| 00:19.58 | costal79 | do you have the url ? for sdn ? |
| 00:20.24 | dudeman | costal79, read what the bot told you in private message about archive |
| 00:22.34 | Snadder | jelly-home, i'm comparing dmm lenny package to dmm etch |
| 00:22.51 | costal79 | sorry guys I can't find any information about sdn can you give me some hint where should I find more information ? |
| 00:22.57 | Snadder | How can I list where A package was installed from? |
| 00:23.29 | Lagbolt | Snadder, apt-cache policy packagename |
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| 00:26.30 | NeoIce | how come theres not a digest version of debian-devel-changes? |
| 00:26.32 | jelly-home | Snadder: no idea, could be a glitch in their builder; have you checked the sid builds? |
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| 00:27.06 | jelly-home | Snadder: also, /usr/share/doc/packagename/changelog.Debian* might provide clues |
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| 00:30.33 | Snadder | jelly-home, here you can see the proof: http://pastebin.ca/1192094 |
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| 00:32.18 | Lagbolt | Snadder, what is the prob? you cant encode? there was a wierd issue i had with some codecs earlier. |
| 00:32.53 | Lagbolt | Snadder, h264 is not right |
| 00:32.59 | Lagbolt | you have to use libx264 i believe |
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| 00:34.39 | Snadder | Lagbolt, ah. ok.. What do I need to use instead of -acodec aac? |
| 00:35.05 | hydroponic | Is there any way to unrar archives compressed using winrar 3.x WITHOUT using the proprietary rar app? |
| 00:35.31 | Lagbolt | hmm looks like it may have changed. i think libfaac was what i used |
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| 00:47.38 | hydroponic | Is there any way to unrar archives compressed using winrar 3.x WITHOUT using the proprietary rar app? |
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| 00:48.16 | Lagbolt | by proprietary you mean the "non-free"? |
| 00:48.34 | abrotman | hydroponic: i doubt it |
| 00:49.11 | hydroponic | yes, non-free. It doesn't work for me, it's giving me rar: /lib/tls/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.4' not found (required by rar) |
| 00:50.19 | Lagbolt | hydroponic, is your rar private? or something anyone can download? |
| 00:50.32 | simonrvn | that's what you get for installing stuff not for etch... |
| 00:50.55 | hydroponic | Lagbolt: It's public, but I have hundreds that I wanted extracted |
| 00:51.09 | Lagbolt | hydroponic, can you point me to one? |
| 00:51.10 | abrotman | !unrar |
| 00:51.10 | dpkg | i guess unrar is a <non-free> package and a command used to extract .rar archives, or ask me about <unrar-free> |
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| 00:52.38 | hydroponic | sec |
| 00:52.38 | Lagbolt | i never have trouble unrar'ing. you using etch? lenny? |
| 00:52.45 | hydroponic | etch |
| 00:53.10 | Lagbolt | hydroponic, just etch? no extra packages that shouldnt be in there? |
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| 00:53.51 | hydroponic | http://24.90.108.139/~kiwi/cloner1.9.2.zip/ |
| 00:53.55 | hydroponic | er, wrong package se |
| 00:53.57 | hydroponic | sec* |
| 00:54.00 | Lagbolt | lol |
| 00:54.47 | hydroponic | http://24.90.108.139/~kiwi/Hotproperty.v1.0.B2.rar |
| 00:55.16 | sine | hi ive got debian on a sony vaio vgn-n38e and the touchpad wont let me double tap, do i need to change the drivers or do i need to configure a settings file |
| 00:55.27 | hydroponic | unrar 0.0.1, gives me "16 Failed" |
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| 00:55.44 | hydroponic | "Version 3.0 archives are not currently supported." from unrar-free manpage |
| 00:56.26 | Lagbolt | works perfectly for me. |
| 00:56.26 | hydroponic | What did you use? |
| 00:56.26 | Lagbolt | are you using free or non-free |
| 00:56.33 | hydroponic | free |
| 00:56.38 | Lagbolt | lol ^^^^^ see above |
| 00:56.42 | Lagbolt | you cant use free on 3.0 |
| 00:57.09 | hydroponic | I know, that's the problem |
| 00:57.17 | Lagbolt | and why cant you use non-free? |
| 00:57.37 | hydroponic | I can't use non-free. .... It doesn't work for me, it's giving me rar: /lib/tls/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.4' not found (required by rar) |
| 00:57.51 | abrotman | why can't you use non-free? |
| 00:59.41 | hydroponic | file-roller works but this is for a server, I'd rather not install all the other gnome stuff along with it |
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| 01:02.51 | Lagbolt | does file-roller extract them or just list them |
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| 01:06.16 | hydroponic | Lagbolt: extracts them just fine |
| 01:06.29 | Lagbolt | hydroponic, i would check and see that you have all the dependencies installed. maybe something broke or was uninstalled |
| 01:06.31 | hydroponic | I fixed the problem. Installed non-free unrar from http://packages.debian.org/etch/i386/unrar/download |
| 01:06.36 | hydroponic | I guess it was just a bad package - thanks all |
| 01:06.46 | Lagbolt | cool |
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| 01:14.33 | cbk486 | Does anyone know an app for transcoding wma into mp3 files? |
| 01:15.27 | abrotman | mencoder maybe? |
| 01:16.05 | stew | cbk486: ffmpeg maybe |
| 01:16.29 | abrotman | i thought mencoder wsa for re-encoding audio files ? |
| 01:16.49 | stew | cbk486: either is going to require software not in debian since neither format is free |
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| 01:17.55 | Hedos | Hey. What's the package again for essential compilers and libraries? |
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| 01:18.32 | stew | Hedos: build-essential |
| 01:19.04 | Hedos | thanks |
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| 01:20.05 | costal79 | \exit |
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| 01:23.27 | jpinx | Do we have a deb package for the new google browser yet? |
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| 01:23.56 | yosql | is there a maintainer who has posted an itp? |
| 01:24.05 | abrotman | jpinx: it doesn't even run on linux yet |
| 01:24.09 | abrotman | !itp |
| 01:24.09 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, itp is Intent To Package, or a bug which is filed against the <wnpp> pseudo-package which indicates that someone is working on packaging a piece of software for debian. This is done to avoid the duplication of work. |
| 01:24.18 | jpinx | bah! |
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| 01:24.38 | yosql | how open is it supposed to be? |
| 01:24.44 | jpinx | google playing nice with windblows :S |
| 01:25.03 | yosql | it's where the money is |
| 01:25.11 | yosql | there's no getting around that |
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| 01:29.13 | sine | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:29.15 | sine | meheheh |
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| 01:32.02 | george | =( ... i just installed debian etch ... and i can't configure grub ... |
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| 01:32.23 | Agiofws | ok |
| 01:32.30 | yosql | you can't? hmm, does that mean I won't be able to either? |
| 01:32.34 | george | anyone can show me a simple menu.lst ? |
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| 01:32.54 | abrotman | george: configure it for hwat? |
| 01:33.05 | Lagbolt | george, /usr/share/doc/grub/examples |
| 01:33.05 | george | i just want to boot |
| 01:33.11 | abrotman | it should have done that on install |
| 01:33.13 | george | well already tried it |
| 01:33.23 | yosql | you can do that from the grub shell |
| 01:33.49 | Lagbolt | george, are you booting a drive that isnt configured in your grub? |
| 01:33.51 | yosql | so do you see grub> when you boot? |
| 01:34.16 | george | well ... i put " /dev/sda2 " on grub config , which is my "boot" partition |
| 01:34.29 | george | than i reset and the screen became black |
| 01:34.37 | yosql | reset? |
| 01:34.56 | george | reset the computer , after remove the isntalation disk |
| 01:34.56 | abrotman | george: is debian the only OS on the computer? |
| 01:34.58 | yosql | there are more issues here if you're resetting your machine instead of shutting it down properly |
| 01:35.02 | george | abrotman: nope |
| 01:35.03 | Lagbolt | black eh? no post or anything? what does that mean. |
| 01:35.13 | george | abrotman: i have a windows , and i am using sabayon |
| 01:35.16 | abrotman | george: normally you'd install grub to /dev/sda .. and have grub boot linux and windows |
| 01:35.25 | abrotman | nfc what sabayon is |
| 01:35.27 | abrotman | !sabayon |
| 01:35.46 | george | sabayon is a gentoo based distro |
| 01:35.50 | KnuckOne | "grub-install /dev/sda" and it should do the job |
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| 01:36.22 | george | wait ... let me see if i get it . I should install grub on the master boot "/dev/sda" ? |
| 01:36.35 | yosql | well mayber |
| 01:37.02 | yosql | you should learn how booting works, how grub installs, how it boots itself, how you can arrange to boot other things |
| 01:37.04 | george | but i am afraid to mess windows ... my windows don't like my linux distros |
| 01:37.26 | Wyzard | Wasn't sabayon also the name of some sort of policy editor for GNOME? |
| 01:37.28 | yosql | the feeling is probably not mutual... linux just laughs |
| 01:37.42 | george | Wyzard: not that i know ... |
| 01:38.02 | Wyzard | found it: http://www.gnome.org/projects/sabayon/ |
| 01:38.08 | jpinx | george: usually Linux doesn't mess with windows OS's on teh same machine unless you make it ;) |
| 01:38.14 | Wyzard | I wonder which came first, that or the distro |
| 01:39.04 | george | i think grub so complicated ... |
| 01:39.09 | amphi | gentoo the fm came first ;) |
| 01:39.18 | yosql | that's because you havent' learned it yet |
| 01:39.27 | george | well i am trying for a year ahhaha |
| 01:39.37 | yosql | to learn grub? |
| 01:39.43 | george | yup |
| 01:40.06 | george | should i install grub on master boot , or in a partition named /boot ? |
| 01:40.10 | yosql | tried getting into the grub shell when you boot and fool around with the tab key |
| 01:40.17 | yosql | ? |
| 01:40.35 | yosql | have you ever seen the grub shell? |
| 01:40.37 | amphi | george: mbr IMHO; it's not hard to make it boot your legacy OS |
| 01:40.42 | jpinx | loves grub - yum yum |
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| 01:40.49 | mohadib | hello |
| 01:41.06 | mohadib | could one of you guys look at my hot plug question |
| 01:41.08 | george | yosql: grub shell ? |
| 01:41.15 | mohadib | http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/view/2522/ |
| 01:41.23 | george | yosql: i just edit the menu.lst |
| 01:41.26 | yosql | I rest my case |
| 01:41.52 | george | yosql: why ? |
| 01:41.56 | abrotman | mohadib: you should unmount before unplugging .. but it seems okay |
| 01:41.56 | mohadib | do those messages look ok to yall? |
| 01:42.07 | mohadib | abrotman: cool, thanks for looking |
| 01:42.10 | abrotman | yall ? |
| 01:42.14 | george | euhoauieha |
| 01:42.16 | mohadib | you all |
| 01:42.17 | amphi | y'all |
| 01:42.37 | yosql | wheeall |
| 01:42.48 | amphi | although I believe that's the singular form, the plural being "y'all y'all" ;) |
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| 01:43.21 | george | when i installed debian what should i have put in grub parameters ? |
| 01:43.31 | george | i think it was the adress to /boot |
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| 01:44.07 | yosql | is growing unsure you've installed debian |
| 01:44.10 | jpinx | debian usually tells you what other OS's it finds and allows a reallly simple way to configure grub |
| 01:44.24 | jpinx | even "I" managed it :p |
| 01:44.41 | jsubl2 | i cant remember a time debian did NOT install grub and config properly |
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| 01:44.53 | george | well i put manual , should i have put guided ? |
| 01:44.59 | mohadib | jsubl2: back in the woody days :) |
| 01:45.03 | FlyingBishop | On a possibly related note, in the automagic kernels list, are ## commented lines ignored by update-grub? |
| 01:45.18 | jpinx | george: given your apparent expertise - yes |
| 01:45.18 | jsubl2 | mohadib: yeah it has been a while. cant remember |
| 01:45.21 | mohadib | ;) |
| 01:45.27 | yosql | pines for the woody days |
| 01:45.34 | jsubl2 | yosql: why |
| 01:45.39 | mohadib | no kidding |
| 01:45.43 | mohadib | woody was a pita |
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| 01:46.11 | jsubl2 | lenny is as good as debian as ever been imho |
| 01:46.15 | george | jpinx: well i have expertise with sabayon, gentoo, slack , suse , fedora, ubuntu ... |
| 01:46.32 | jsubl2 | well lets whip out the dick meters |
| 01:46.46 | KnuckOne | yes, i have the same mohadib it's ok, but keep this kernel for now, more recent kernels cause IO error that eventually freeze the machine |
| 01:46.54 | Orbixx | Sure you've got one long enough to accommodate Orbixx? |
| 01:47.21 | mohadib | KnuckOne: ahh, cool, thanks for looking |
| 01:47.33 | mohadib | feels better about eSata hotplugging |
| 01:47.44 | mohadib | er warmplugging |
| 01:48.09 | george | =( anyone , knows what happened to my grub ? |
| 01:48.19 | jpinx | george; well the guided install is the best |
| 01:48.49 | jpinx | george: man grub |
| 01:48.59 | yosql | george: so far you haven't said anything about what the problem is |
| 01:49.09 | yosql | so I have nfi |
| 01:49.13 | mohadib | KnuckOne: so you tried some newer kernels with hot/warm plugging? |
| 01:49.21 | george | jpinx: i am afraid of guided install destroing my data partitions and my windows |
| 01:49.35 | mohadib | buy a new drive |
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| 01:49.49 | jsubl2 | i think he is talking partitioning |
| 01:49.53 | george | yosql: my debian dont boots |
| 01:50.03 | jpinx | george: guided is for idiots like me who would screw up partitions. :-/ |
| 01:50.06 | mohadib | i dont partion or fiddle with drives with data at all |
| 01:50.06 | netdaemon | question, does openjdk-6-jre come with the mozilla plugin? |
| 01:50.12 | mohadib | just too dangerous imho |
| 01:50.18 | yosql | everything you have said leads me to believe that you haven't installed the debian package of grub, and also that you haven't installed debian |
| 01:50.37 | jsubl2 | aptitude search grub |
| 01:50.47 | abrotman | netdaemon: x86 or amd64? |
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| 01:51.01 | netdaemon | abrotman, amd64 |
| 01:51.06 | george | yosql: ... lol , i installed debian , but seems that i messed with grub, and nothing boots |
| 01:51.15 | abrotman | netdaemon: i'm not sure there's a plugin for amd64 yet |
| 01:51.19 | KnuckOne | quickly mohadib, because 2.6.24/26 crashes after 10 minutes to 2 hours :) |
| 01:51.21 | mohadib | there is not |
| 01:51.21 | jpinx | george: re-install and do it guided;) |
| 01:51.30 | mohadib | you can use the 32 bit plugin though |
| 01:51.35 | jsubl2 | netdaemon: icedtea-gcjwebplugin |
| 01:51.36 | netdaemon | abrotman, it exists, just wondering if debian has it =) |
| 01:51.38 | mohadib | KnuckOne: ahh, i see |
| 01:51.43 | netdaemon | jsubl2, ty |
| 01:51.44 | jsubl2 | netdaemon: i am running amd64 also |
| 01:51.50 | jsubl2 | it works well for me |
| 01:51.51 | abrotman | netdaemon: you could read the desscription of the package ? |
| 01:52.02 | yosql | george: that brings up an awful lot of questions which I'm not going to ask... instead, I'm going to rustle up some more grub |
| 01:52.05 | n3kl | Anyone know how to get to the 10 11 12 windows on irssi? |
| 01:52.16 | mohadib | n3kl: /win 13 |
| 01:52.25 | n3kl | mohadib: ah, thanks |
| 01:52.27 | mohadib | alt 0 gets 10 |
| 01:52.27 | wols_ | n3kl: alt+q, alt+w wtc |
| 01:52.29 | mohadib | np |
| 01:52.34 | abrotman | !info icedtea-gcjwebplugin lenny |
| 01:52.53 | dpkg | icedtea-gcjwebplugin: (Java plugin based on IcedTea and gcjwebplugin), section contrib/web, is extra. Version: 1.0-2 (lenny), Packaged size: 64 kB, Installed size: 192 kB |
| 01:53.18 | george | jpinx: if i do guided , would i be able to have a windows partition , data partition and a functional grub? |
| 01:53.20 | jsubl2 | netdaemon: yeah you need contrib in your sources.list |
| 01:53.32 | george | jpinx: i am afraid the guided erases all my data |
| 01:53.40 | netdaemon | jsubl2, got it =) |
| 01:53.45 | netdaemon | ty |
| 01:53.48 | jsubl2 | i always add contrib and non-free. |
| 01:53.55 | jsubl2 | netdaemon: yw :) |
| 01:53.55 | netdaemon | amd64 is becomming more and more feasable |
| 01:54.00 | jsubl2 | yep |
| 01:54.05 | jsubl2 | no hicups here |
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| 01:54.13 | netdaemon | adobe just needs to hurry up with a 64 bit native port of flash, bastards |
| 01:54.29 | jsubl2 | nspluginwrapper works for acroread |
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| 01:54.33 | netdaemon | i guess nspluginwrapper is nice though, doesn't require a browser restart to solve lockups |
| 01:54.37 | mohadib | 64 bit webstart from sun would be nice too |
| 01:54.41 | zinx | nspluginwrapper works with flash too |
| 01:54.41 | george | yosql: how did you installed debian? guided or manual ? |
| 01:54.49 | jsubl2 | yeah i wonder if it will work with chrome |
| 01:54.50 | zinx | Debian has it packaged using nspluginwrapper, even :/ |
| 01:55.08 | rezer | hi, i began having problems yesterday with my computer, it just freezes anywhere (even console!) i dont know why or how to troubleshoot |
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| 01:55.12 | rezer | could someone help me? |
| 01:55.25 | mohadib | rezer: run memcheck |
| 01:55.30 | mohadib | from a live cd |
| 01:55.41 | \amethyst | rezer: what kernel are you running? |
| 01:55.42 | rezer | i dont have a live cd |
| 01:55.51 | rezer | it does not matter, i tried 2 kernels |
| 01:55.59 | rezer | and besides it worked fine 2 days ago |
| 01:56.03 | rezer | same kernel |
| 01:56.05 | george | rezer: i think your HD is not well conected |
| 01:56.09 | rezer | never had this problem before |
| 01:56.16 | rezer | shit george |
| 01:56.18 | rezer | you are right |
| 01:56.28 | rezer | i dont have the rails |
| 01:56.31 | rezer | for my harddrive |
| 01:56.34 | rezer | i forgot about that |
| 01:56.48 | rezer | im gonna try that |
| 01:56.52 | rezer | thanks |
| 01:56.53 | george | rails ? |
| 01:57.01 | rezer | yeah the harddrive has like rails |
| 01:57.02 | abrotman | less enter key! |
| 01:57.10 | rezer | i lost them once |
| 01:57.25 | mohadib | are you kicking the computer about? |
| 01:57.29 | george | rezer: try a live cd ... if the live cd works well ... the problem is something else |
| 01:57.31 | rezer | its a laptop |
| 01:57.35 | rezer | not kicking |
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| 01:57.40 | mohadib | and the hardrive is not in proper?! |
| 01:57.48 | rezer | at times it has frozen when i have not touched it though |
| 01:57.50 | mohadib | whats holding it in place |
| 01:57.50 | rezer | it is proper |
| 01:57.56 | rezer | but perhaps its become loose |
| 01:58.02 | mohadib | id check your ram first |
| 01:58.04 | rezer | other rails that i thought would fit as good |
| 01:58.19 | rezer | i can do a bios check no? |
| 01:58.19 | mohadib | but sure, you want your hardrive connected well :p |
| 01:58.21 | jsubl2 | rezer: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 01:58.29 | rezer | its lenny |
| 01:58.36 | george | rezer: i had same problem with my hd ... |
| 01:58.36 | rezer | but i have not upgraded anything |
| 01:59.21 | rezer | ok i will reboot do a bios test and then remount the hardrive |
| 01:59.27 | rezer | then see what happends |
| 01:59.34 | rezer | thanks |
| 01:59.35 | george | ;-) |
| 01:59.36 | mohadib | bios test? |
| 01:59.40 | rezer | yea |
| 01:59.43 | rezer | extended ram test |
| 01:59.48 | mohadib | ahh nice bios |
| 01:59.56 | rezer | yea :) |
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| 02:01.21 | george | =( ... what is wrong with my grub |
| 02:01.26 | george | =_( |
| 02:01.41 | george | my debian is dead ... |
| 02:01.47 | mohadib | did you wipe the boot sector? |
| 02:01.59 | mohadib | or mark the drive as not bootable in fdisk |
| 02:02.20 | george | i can boot windows and sabayon in grub |
| 02:02.23 | george | but not debian |
| 02:02.29 | jsubl2 | george: can you paste your grub on http://fpaste.org/ |
| 02:02.32 | mohadib | what happens when you try |
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| 02:03.27 | george | says something like ... " error ... bla bla bla , can't find " ... but i make a terreible menu.lst config |
| 02:03.48 | mohadib | paste your config |
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| 02:05.26 | Lagbolt | george, are you sure it points to the right places? |
| 02:05.36 | Lagbolt | george, tried from grub command line? |
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| 02:05.48 | george | http://fpaste.org/paste/5647 |
| 02:05.59 | george | look how messed is my menu.lst |
| 02:06.17 | george | Lagbolt: nope , how did i do it ? |
| 02:06.18 | Lagbolt | george, how about initrd line? |
| 02:06.38 | Lagbolt | george, you are using a packaged kernel correct? |
| 02:07.06 | george | Lagbolt: =/ ... don't know |
| 02:07.07 | Lagbolt | george, after kernel line maybe "initrd /initramfs-2.6.18-6-amd64" |
| 02:07.10 | jsubl2 | root (hd0,4) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.18-6-amd64 root=/dev/sda4 |
| 02:07.21 | george | hmm ok i wll put that |
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| 02:07.35 | jsubl2 | one of them is wrong hd0,3 matches sda4 |
| 02:07.37 | Lagbolt | george, do you have separate / and /boot ? |
| 02:07.48 | jsubl2 | hd0,4 matches sda5 |
| 02:07.50 | Lagbolt | jsubl2, i think his /boot is diff than hit root |
| 02:07.55 | trnzmeta | guys: to those that tried to help me with the bash colors yesterday |
| 02:07.57 | jsubl2 | oo |
| 02:08.20 | george | Lagbolt: yes |
| 02:08.23 | trnzmeta | I figured out what it was, my login was defaulted to sh in /etc/passwd |
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| 02:08.37 | Lagbolt | george, you def need initrd if you dont have it so give that a shot |
| 02:08.43 | trnzmeta | hence whenever I edited the .bashrc it would make no world of difference |
| 02:08.47 | george | i have , /boot , / , /home diferrent from each ohter |
| 02:08.49 | Lagbolt | i am assuming the error comes after it tries to boot kern |
| 02:10.02 | george | Lagbolt: ok ... anything else should i write ? |
| 02:10.11 | Lagbolt | just what i said |
| 02:10.23 | Lagbolt | george, "initrd /initramfs-2.6.18-6-amd64" |
| 02:10.34 | george | ok ... thanks anyway ... i will come back in 2 minutes |
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| 02:12.51 | dudeman | man I'm getting pretty sick of this already |
| 02:13.01 | dudeman | damn modem people |
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| 02:13.45 | R_YoYo_R | anyone using lenny? |
| 02:13.54 | stew | R_YoYo_R: lots and lots of people |
| 02:13.59 | R_YoYo_R | im debating installing etch or lenny ... or possibly sid |
| 02:14.03 | R_YoYo_R | stew, really |
| 02:14.29 | abrotman | and sid probably isn't for you |
| 02:14.37 | stew | R_YoYo_R: if security is a concern, install etch, otherwise MAYBE lenny, definately not sid |
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| 02:14.54 | R_YoYo_R | abrotman, why not sid? |
| 02:14.59 | R_YoYo_R | abrotman, unstable |
| 02:15.03 | yosql | it's not stable |
| 02:15.09 | abrotman | !sid upgrade |
| 02:15.09 | dpkg | Repeat after me: Sid is NOT AN UPGRADE! Sid is meant for developers and testers, so stay away from it if you're neither. Use <stable> or <testing> instead. |
| 02:15.10 | jsubl2 | still in developement |
| 02:15.16 | yosql | you're concerned about security |
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| 02:15.30 | R_YoYo_R | so is lenny relatively stable? |
| 02:15.42 | yosql | getting there |
| 02:15.48 | R_YoYo_R | hmm |
| 02:15.51 | FreenoseJew | stupid niggggger obama if elected nigggs will start killing whites in larger numbers just like after south africa elected their first nnnniiiiigggger! Barack Hussein Obama Bin Laden won't last 2 months in office! |
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| 02:16.16 | R_YoYo_R | i like etch. Although there is one problem ... which isnt really a problem .. there is no package for the compiz settings manager |
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| 02:16.29 | R_YoYo_R | wow |
| 02:16.36 | R_YoYo_R | that guy was terrible |
| 02:16.36 | yosql | but right now there are hundreds of requests from maintainers to let their thing in |
| 02:16.49 | yosql | if it was a guy |
| 02:16.54 | yosql | more likely a bot |
| 02:16.55 | R_YoYo_R | yea |
| 02:16.57 | R_YoYo_R | bot |
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| 02:17.56 | odla | quick question ... if the version of R in lenny right now is 2.7.1 but the one in sid is 2.7.2 will this version from sid trickle down to lenny or is that out of the question now |
| 02:18.30 | yosql | it might if a freeze exception is granted |
| 02:18.36 | stew | odla: its not likely unless it fixes an rc bug |
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| 02:19.54 | george | Lagbolt: didn't worked |
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| 02:20.04 | yosql | what do you mean by that? |
| 02:20.21 | Lagbolt | george, can you be more specific about the error, maybe write it down and let use see it |
| 02:20.23 | odla | stew: thanks ... i pulled it in from sid cause i need it for a class |
| 02:20.33 | george | " error 15 " |
| 02:20.41 | Lagbolt | george, or walk me thru what you did. you installed debian and then didnt let it install grub? |
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| 02:21.03 | Benzi | how do I use mplayer as my screensaver? |
| 02:21.19 | Lagbolt | george, that is file not found. you obviously mistyped |
| 02:21.23 | george | i installed debian and than, in grub instalation i typed "/dev/sda2" |
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| 02:21.34 | Lagbolt | ah so you installed grub on sda2? |
| 02:21.36 | Lagbolt | great! |
| 02:21.37 | Benzi | (kscreensaver) |
| 02:21.42 | Lagbolt | george, you can use chainloader +1 |
| 02:21.45 | yosql | error 15 is file not found |
| 02:21.52 | Lagbolt | or wait +2 ? |
| 02:21.53 | yosql | so... what file is not found? |
| 02:21.56 | Lagbolt | hmm let me see |
| 02:22.20 | Lagbolt | hmm no it is +1 |
| 02:22.25 | george | Lagbolt: well i have an old menu.lst backup ... should i turn it back ? |
| 02:22.34 | george | let me see it |
| 02:23.16 | Lagbolt | george, so /dev/sda2 should be (hd0,1) |
| 02:23.37 | Lagbolt | so something like --- root (hd0,1) and second line chainloader +1 |
| 02:23.43 | yosql | is hd0 /dev/sda? |
| 02:23.51 | yosql | or /dev/hda? |
| 02:23.54 | george | yeah , but i typed "/dev/sda2" becouse it said that i could type like that |
| 02:23.58 | Lagbolt | george, assuming of course sda is hd0 :) |
| 02:24.17 | george | in the original configuration was chainloader +1 |
| 02:24.52 | mohadib | does echo 1 > /sys/class/scsi_device/1\:0\:0\:0/device/delete actually cause the drive to spin down? |
| 02:25.03 | Lagbolt | george, what was root (hd0,#) in original? |
| 02:25.20 | george | Lagbolt: i thought that chainloader works only with windows partions |
| 02:25.24 | Lagbolt | george, do you only have 1 drive in the machine? |
| 02:25.33 | Lagbolt | george, read the manual! |
| 02:25.33 | george | rootnoverify (hd0,2) |
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| 02:25.36 | amal029 | yosql: hd0 is the first hard-drive in grub (doesn't metter if its sda,hda in linux), grub names everything hd0, hd1 for second hard-drive etc.. |
| 02:25.48 | george | Lagbolt: 2 satas |
| 02:26.13 | yosql | what's in /boot/grub/device.map |
| 02:26.26 | yosql | how many lines is that file |
| 02:26.41 | jsubl2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:26.44 | odla | where could i find archived .deb ... i.e i am looking for a particular version of r-cran-lme4 that could have been passing through sid/testing around dec 07 |
| 02:26.59 | jpinx | george: if your OS is on sda1 it is sd0 in grub |
| 02:27.15 | yosql | hd0 |
| 02:27.25 | yosql | grub doesn't have sd |
| 02:27.25 | stew | odla: /msg dpkg sdn |
| 02:27.28 | jpinx | sd0 |
| 02:27.32 | jpinx | mine does |
| 02:27.37 | jsubl2 | nope hd0 |
| 02:27.45 | george | hmmm i think should be hd0,4 ... because my root is on sda5 |
| 02:27.52 | jpinx | I boot from my usb stick using sd0 |
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| 02:28.29 | yosql | jpinx: linux probably calls that drive sda |
| 02:28.31 | jpinx | george: where is your /boot partition? |
| 02:28.38 | yosql | grub definitely does not |
| 02:28.39 | george | Lagbolt: should i change rootnoverify to (hd0,4) ? |
| 02:28.50 | odla | stew: sweet ... thanks |
| 02:28.54 | george | jpinx: my boot is /dev/sda2 |
| 02:29.03 | yosql | george: does windows boot? |
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| 02:29.14 | stew | odla: its unfortunately not being kept up to date (at least the last i looked) |
| 02:29.15 | george | yosql: yup |
| 02:29.20 | Lagbolt | george, is it sda5 or sda2 |
| 02:29.41 | george | my boot = sda2, my root =sda5 |
| 02:29.46 | amal029 | so it should be rootnoverify (hd0,3) |
| 02:29.57 | Lagbolt | george, ok root for the OS is diff for root for grub |
| 02:30.08 | jpinx | george it is boot you need to point to |
| 02:30.20 | amal029 | so it should be rootnoverify (hd0,1) |
| 02:30.25 | Lagbolt | yeah |
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| 02:30.29 | jpinx | grub wants to know where is your /boot partition |
| 02:30.32 | amal029 | made a mistake |
| 02:30.48 | Lagbolt | rootnoverify (hd0,1) and then chainloader +1 |
| 02:30.58 | amal029 | is this windows install?? |
| 02:31.03 | jpinx | Lagbolt: why chainloader? |
| 02:31.17 | jpinx | that's a windows thing |
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| 02:31.23 | george | Lagbolt: yup ... i think that would be the mistake ... it is hd0,2 ... and i will change to hd0,1 |
| 02:31.45 | yosql | george: root for windows is different from root for this gentoolike thing is different from root for the debian |
| 02:31.47 | george | jpinx: i thought the same think |
| 02:31.47 | Lagbolt | george, yeah they go 0 1 2 3 for 1 2 3 4 :) grub starts at 0 |
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| 02:32.13 | yosql | that root is a notational convenience |
| 02:32.25 | jpinx | george: do you see the grub menu when you first switch on? |
| 02:33.03 | jpinx | if you see the menu, you can pause the selection and play with different hd* values to see what boots into what |
| 02:33.23 | jpinx | grub allows you to edit at boot time |
| 02:33.45 | jpinx | you can play with chainloaders as well ;) |
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| 02:39.41 | george | Lagbolt: now when i choose debian , it returns to the menu ... |
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| 02:39.43 | mefistofeles | hola a todos |
| 02:39.48 | mefistofeles | com van? |
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| 02:39.51 | mefistofeles | como* |
| 02:39.58 | mefistofeles | aca con un problemita sera que me pueden ayudar? |
| 02:39.59 | yosql | ingles |
| 02:40.00 | lavaramano | mefistofeles: aprende a escribir primero |
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| 02:40.11 | Lagbolt | george, yeah the grub menu that debian installed |
| 02:40.15 | Lagbolt | did you pick debian from that menu |
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| 02:40.25 | Lagbolt | the installer probably built a grub that has all your stuff in it |
| 02:40.45 | yosql | it might not have |
| 02:41.06 | odla | one more question is a package is version 0.99875-9 upstream and i see 0.99875-9-1 and 0.99875-9-3 ... the last - number is just debian bug fixing right? |
| 02:41.12 | odla | first is/if |
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| 02:41.14 | yosql | it won't run update-grub unless you're installing a kernel and the hook is in place |
| 02:41.25 | jpinx | george: sounds like you have a second grub in /boot |
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| 02:41.39 | WickedMetalHead | To disable something in /etc/init.d from starting at boot, i jsut chmod -x the init.d/scriptname right? |
| 02:41.48 | abrotman | WickedMetalHead: update-rc.d |
| 02:41.53 | yosql | well debian uploading |
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| 02:43.02 | WickedMetalHead | abrotman ive never used update-rc.d, would it be update-rc.d remove lighttpd? |
| 02:43.22 | george | Lagbolt: wow ... i didn't know that i could have 2 grubs |
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| 02:43.31 | abrotman | it has a man page |
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| 02:43.45 | george | Lagbolt: well i tried and did not worked |
| 02:43.51 | yosql | WickedMetalHead: run update-rc.d with no params |
| 02:43.56 | abrotman | WickedMetalHead: but that was close! |
| 02:44.06 | abrotman | WickedMetalHead: update-rc.d <foo> remove |
| 02:44.24 | george | Lagbolt: should i set to (hd0,4) ... so i go to debian root's ? |
| 02:44.29 | abrotman | yosql: that gives help ... |
| 02:44.37 | odla | how can i make aptitude not update a package unless I want it to? i.e. i don't want to update r-cran-lme4 ever unless i tell it to |
| 02:44.47 | abrotman | !tell odla about hold |
| 02:45.21 | odla | abrotman: thanks |
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| 02:46.42 | george | o.O ... $ man grub >> no entry for grub |
| 02:47.15 | jetscreamer | it's info grub |
| 02:47.21 | jetscreamer | but aptitude install grub-doc iirc |
| 02:47.27 | jetscreamer | first |
| 02:49.01 | jpinx | george: apt-get install grub -- you have something very odd going on there |
| 02:49.20 | jetscreamer | try what i said first eh |
| 02:49.41 | jetscreamer | but you could always --reinstall |
| 02:49.49 | jetscreamer | wont hurt |
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| 02:50.21 | george | jpinx: err i am in sabayon now ... but i think i will reinstall debian ... should i go for guided ? |
| 02:50.24 | jetscreamer | there is no grub manpage... something about just an info file |
| 02:50.26 | jpinx | has man grub |
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| 02:50.42 | jetscreamer | or used to be |
| 02:51.11 | odla | abrotman: so aptitude will always hold that package until i specify otherwise after issuing aptitude hold foo? |
| 02:51.28 | abrotman | not always ... |
| 02:51.40 | odla | abrotman: ok i'll keep my eyes open then |
| 02:51.43 | abrotman | there are ways to break the hold .. |
| 02:52.01 | jetscreamer | !grapple abrotman |
| 02:52.03 | abrotman | maybe pinning alos? |
| 02:52.04 | jpinx | jetscreamer: grub came with my install, maybe george has not got it cos he didn't install it during teh OS install |
| 02:52.04 | jetscreamer | dang |
| 02:52.10 | odla | abrotman: how would i unhold it? just run aptitude install foo? |
| 02:52.18 | odla | yeah i thought about pinning |
| 02:52.23 | abrotman | yes |
| 02:52.29 | odla | abrotman: thanks |
| 02:52.54 | george | jpinx: i have "info grub" |
| 02:53.01 | george | jpinx: but no man grub |
| 02:53.12 | jpinx | george: go for re-install and use guided and use the partition manager wisely. Don *not* mess with existing other OS's partitions |
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| 02:53.56 | jpinx | george: I have man grub in 4.0 - i don't know what distro you're in now |
| 02:54.37 | amphi | george: what branch of debian are you talking about? |
| 02:54.57 | jetscreamer | the 'man grub' page you get is/was very short and says 'the compleat grub documentation is maintained as an info file' |
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| 02:55.29 | jpinx | most man pages refer to an info page IME |
| 02:55.40 | jetscreamer | perhapsit's symlinked |
| 02:55.58 | amphi | jpinx: most (all?) gnu manpages |
| 02:56.00 | jetscreamer | well either i know what i'm talking about or i'm sane... |
| 02:56.08 | jetscreamer | and i don't feel very sane :) |
| 02:56.13 | jpinx | amphi: yea -them too ;) |
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| 02:56.23 | george | amphi: i am talking about debian etch ... but i am using sabayon now ... |
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| 02:57.03 | jetscreamer | but, like i said, that's how it was like 6 months to a year ago... i quit needed to info grub |
| 02:57.12 | jetscreamer | had to print it out once :/ |
| 02:57.42 | george | jpinx: thanks anyway ... i will reinstall debian ... and setup grub |
| 02:57.45 | jpinx | jetscreamer: I got man grub with my install of etch about 3 months ago |
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| 02:57.56 | srikar_ | I downloaded debian lenny live cd, i had written it to a cd, cd boots with a error,i googled , similar errors got solved by writing at slow speed.I had re written image(md5 chech done) at 2x speed,stii debian live cd doent boot, i get this error :Disk error 32 ,AX=4280 drive 9f whats the problem?? |
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| 02:58.13 | jetscreamer | #debian-live |
| 02:58.22 | jetscreamer | !debian-live |
| 02:58.22 | dpkg | i guess debian-live is live-helper. make-live is a utility to build Debian Live systems. It takes a Debian mirror as an input and outputs a live system image (ISO image for CDs and DVDs, or tarball for netboot). make-live is gaining significant functionality and stability as development continutes. Homepage: http://debian-live.alioth.debian.org/ , or irc://irc.debian.org/#debian-live |
| 02:58.31 | jetscreamer | i d/l'd it also |
| 02:58.33 | srikar_ | plzz help me: |
| 02:58.35 | jetscreamer | it borked also |
| 02:58.38 | jetscreamer | like last week |
| 02:58.45 | jetscreamer | i gave up (i tried) |
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| 02:59.16 | jetscreamer | i did try the sid version |
| 02:59.22 | jetscreamer | maybe the lenny |
| 02:59.43 | srikar_ | no one is present at debian-live |
| 02:59.51 | jetscreamer | nightly builds of the installer don't work most of the time for me either |
| 02:59.55 | srikar_ | what may b e the fix for this problem?? |
| 03:00.06 | jetscreamer | they'll just tell you this isn't #debian-live, here |
| 03:00.11 | jetscreamer | i have no idea myself |
| 03:00.21 | abrotman | and yes .. he should ask #debian-live |
| 03:00.30 | jetscreamer | see? :) |
| 03:00.50 | abrotman | jetscreamer: you do know that the live stuff is different than the regular installer .. right ? |
| 03:01.11 | jetscreamer | abrotman: yeah, i'm just saying neither worked for me lately |
| 03:01.26 | jetscreamer | netinst worked |
| 03:01.33 | jetscreamer | not the full ones though |
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| 03:02.14 | srikar_ | i downloaded it from here,,http://debian-live.alioth.debian.org/. It took me 7 hrs to download.Now i am dissapointed : (, debian live channel is dull(no irc users there) |
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| 03:02.41 | jetscreamer | srikar_: i 'think' the main channel for that is on irc.debian.org irc server |
| 03:02.45 | jetscreamer | not freenode |
| 03:03.08 | jetscreamer | aka irc.oftc.whateveritis |
| 03:03.12 | srikar_ | k thnx |
| 03:03.16 | srikar_ | got da channel |
| 03:03.23 | jetscreamer | more full? |
| 03:03.39 | jetscreamer | guess so |
| 03:04.03 | jpinx | looks like a neat way to install a vbox |
| 03:04.22 | jpinx | to install debian on a vbox |
| 03:04.52 | srikar_ | yeah i will try that |
| 03:07.36 | srikar_ | BTW did any one try lenny (beta), hows it compared to etch???? |
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| 03:08.47 | jetscreamer | heh |
| 03:08.55 | jetscreamer | i can't run stable |
| 03:09.02 | jetscreamer | too 'stable' |
| 03:09.38 | jetscreamer | but yeah it's a lot better for a desktop, imo ymmv et al |
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| 03:10.19 | jetscreamer | NOT a server, of course |
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| 03:13.37 | jpinx | why not stable for a server jetscreamer ? |
| 03:14.46 | jetscreamer | no i mean not lenny for a server |
| 03:14.46 | jescis | jetscreamer, too `stable'? Is there such a thing? |
| 03:15.04 | jetscreamer | s/stable/static/ |
| 03:15.22 | jetscreamer | but that's just me |
| 03:15.26 | jetscreamer | stable is good |
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| 03:15.54 | jpinx | I'm just about to up my server to etch |
| 03:16.18 | jpinx | any point in going to etchnhalf on a server - I have it on my laptop |
| 03:16.19 | jetscreamer | lenny will soon 'be' stable, and etch will be oldstable |
| 03:16.23 | jetscreamer | but i don't know when |
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| 03:17.35 | jescis | jetscreamer, I'm using etch as my server ^^ |
| 03:17.42 | jpinx | is lenny frozen now? |
| 03:17.42 | jetscreamer | good |
| 03:17.48 | jetscreamer | some of it is |
| 03:17.50 | iofhdfsdf | please... do you know if the linux (specially debian stable) works well with pci-express devices, specially with a lsi scsi controller? |
| 03:17.50 | jetscreamer | i heard |
| 03:18.11 | stew | all of lenny is frozen |
| 03:18.12 | jetscreamer | what's the hw compat factoid with the website |
| 03:18.32 | jpinx | cool - maybe I'll up my laptop to lenny and see what happens, before trying to upgrade the server |
| 03:19.11 | jetscreamer | make sure etch is up to date first |
| 03:19.25 | jpinx | jetscreamer - yea - thanks |
| 03:19.28 | jetscreamer | i tried it the other way first, recently... :/ |
| 03:19.42 | jetscreamer | installed a base etch, tried to upgrade.. :( |
| 03:20.05 | jetscreamer | very smooth when updated first |
| 03:20.21 | iofhdfsdf | do you have idea when lenny will become the stable release? |
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| 03:20.25 | jpinx | nice to know :) |
| 03:20.49 | jpinx | iofhdfsdf: sounds like pretty soon |
| 03:21.12 | jetscreamer | but, as always, wir |
| 03:21.27 | jescis | wir? |
| 03:21.38 | foug | are there any debian specific guides that describe how to point apache to a domain name? I've followed the guides for installing apache, but that's all I can seem to find |
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| 03:22.06 | jpinx | !lenny |
| 03:22.06 | dpkg | well, lenny is the codename for the next Debian release, currently testing. To upgrade to lenny, ask me about <etch->lenny>. Lenny is the binoculars. Lenny will be known as version 5.0 and the schedule is set for release in Sept 2008 (but ask me about <wwlr>). A <moving target>. See also <testing> and <lenny status>. |
| 03:22.15 | iofhdfsdf | jpinx that kind of news fucked me hehe... I have to configure a server on friday! |
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| 03:22.31 | jpinx | Sept2008 - that's around about now ;) |
| 03:23.01 | jpinx | !lenny status |
| 03:23.01 | dpkg | Toolchain: frozen. Libs: frozen. Everything else: frozen. Now, it's serious bug squashing time. When will lenny release? Sooner if you help. See http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ for ideas how you can help. See also <rc-alert>. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2008/07/msg00007.html |
| 03:23.03 | jescis | jpinx, true that :D |
| 03:23.40 | stew | jpinx: yes, we'll miss be missing that goal real soon now! |
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| 03:23.52 | jpinx | sounds like it's time to look at upgrading the laptop again |
| 03:24.08 | jpinx | just went to etchnhalf last week : |
| 03:24.34 | stew | lenny is not actually likely to release this year |
| 03:25.01 | jescis | went to etchnhalf when he wind of it ^^ |
| 03:25.18 | jescis | got* |
| 03:25.34 | jetscreamer | i'd recommend lenny for a laptop if it was permitted, but it's not so i won't :) |
| 03:25.46 | jpinx | jescis: - you got wind? |
| 03:25.55 | iofhdfsdf | my laptop always have the testing version |
| 03:26.14 | stew | !lenny =~ s/the schedule is set for release in Sept 2008 (but ask me about <wwlr>)/it will hopefully be released soon (ask me about <wwlr>)/ |
| 03:26.14 | dpkg | OK, stew |
| 03:26.23 | jpinx | jetscreamer: what's not permitted? making a recommendation? Or using Lenny on the laptop? |
| 03:27.14 | jetscreamer | recommending something not stable |
| 03:27.14 | jetscreamer | i prefer sid myself |
| 03:27.14 | jpinx | heh;) |
| 03:27.14 | jetscreamer | have for years |
| 03:28.06 | jetscreamer | i dont do servers though |
| 03:28.15 | jescis | jetscreamer, because you like bullies that damage everything they get? |
| 03:28.18 | jetscreamer | just remote ones |
| 03:28.21 | jpinx | is going to put sid on a seperate partition on the lappy to play with |
| 03:28.26 | jetscreamer | no because i like the versions |
| 03:28.32 | jetscreamer | of the software |
| 03:28.49 | jetscreamer | it doesn't break if you don't let it upgrade w/o knowing what will happen |
| 03:29.00 | jetscreamer | least not mostly |
| 03:29.04 | jpinx | I can't remember what made me go to etchnhalf, but it was a package of somesort |
| 03:29.05 | jetscreamer | :) muhahaha |
| 03:29.16 | iofhdfsdf | what is etchnhalf? |
| 03:29.32 | jetscreamer | 4.1 or 4.2 or whatever, nowadays |
| 03:29.35 | jpinx | it's halfway between etch and lenny ;) |
| 03:29.38 | jetscreamer | !etchnhalf |
| 03:29.38 | dpkg | "etch + 1/2" -- an update to Debian's stable release "etch" designed to provide support for newer hardware. It includes a 2.6.24 kernel along with an updated installer. Release notes: http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/etchnhalf Installation instructions: http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/debian-installer/etchnhalf See also http://wiki.debian.org/EtchAndAHalf, or <etchnhalf facts> |
| 03:30.05 | iofhdfsdf | got it, thank you |
| 03:30.34 | jetscreamer | it's in stable though |
| 03:30.38 | jetscreamer | the updates |
| 03:30.48 | jpinx | etchnhalf is stable |
| 03:30.55 | jetscreamer | what he said |
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| 03:31.25 | jpinx | just add the rigth lines in sources.list and go |
| 03:31.28 | jescis | that's what she said ;) |
| 03:32.05 | jpinx | first time I've upgraded a kernel and it was easy :D |
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| 03:35.47 | Eroick | hey, I have a fresh debian install, but it won't boot up! The last message before it locks up is: "usbcore: registered new device driver usb". It's still running, I can type stuff in, but the boot process halts here. I've unplugged all USB devices. I do have a D-Link Wifi card installed, could that be causing a conflict? Any other ideas for resolving this problem? |
| 03:37.27 | jescis | can a file have a hash(#) as the first cheracter when linking it in html? |
| 03:38.02 | jescis | to* |
| 03:38.14 | jpinx | jescis: I believe so |
| 03:38.36 | jpinx | try it and see ;) |
| 03:38.44 | jescis | I have |
| 03:38.52 | jpinx | did it work? |
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| 03:39.30 | jescis | maybe it's my settings :/ Because it didn't work :( |
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| 03:40.01 | jpinx | maybe I was wrong ;) |
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| 03:41.05 | jescis | I'm still forced into apache-default when going to my servers address :/ |
| 03:41.37 | jescis | that is on other machines :/ |
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| 03:43.23 | jpinx | #apache |
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| 03:44.35 | snowrichard | hello |
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| 03:46.35 | Eroick | this gets stranger... it doesnt always lockup on the usbcore line, sometimes after |
| 03:46.56 | Eroick | but it's usually around that line, it seems. there's no error. |
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| 03:50.23 | jpinx | /exit TV time |
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| 04:00.00 | osmosis | monitor power saving doesnt work. help. |
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| 04:03.49 | amphi | osmosis: blanking? |
| 04:04.24 | osmosis | amphi: xset dpms force off works |
| 04:04.25 | amphi | osmosis: does 'xset dpms force standby' work? |
| 04:04.45 | osmosis | amphi: but gnome doesnt put them into standby on its own, so the monitors never sleep. |
| 04:05.55 | amphi | I wot not of gnome; does using xset to set an off timeout not work? |
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| 04:07.29 | osmosis | amphi: ill try that |
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| 04:11.41 | dudeman | 1hm |
| 04:11.43 | dudeman | hey |
| 04:11.54 | dudeman | how do I change the blue color to a lighter shade of that blue in xterm |
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| 04:12.09 | dudeman | i know in konsole or gnome-terminal you can adjust colors, but does anyone know how to in Xterm |
| 04:12.13 | dudeman | ? |
| 04:12.49 | Lagbolt | dudeman, man xterm |
| 04:13.03 | dudeman | Lagbolt, I'm already on it, what should I be looking for |
| 04:13.11 | Lagbolt | dudeman xterm -bg blue |
| 04:13.15 | Lagbolt | that makes blue background lol |
| 04:13.20 | dudeman | Lagbolt, try and give a tad bit more specific answer as to WHAT .... |
| 04:13.32 | dudeman | Lagbolt, thank you for your attempt to help you. Don't worry about it. |
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| 04:13.43 | dudeman | s/you/me |
| 04:13.49 | Lagbolt | dude, seriously xterm -bg <-- background color |
| 04:14.02 | dudeman | Lagbolt, you misunderstand me |
| 04:14.14 | Lagbolt | perhaps a better question then |
| 04:14.19 | Lagbolt | what colors are you talking about |
| 04:14.21 | dudeman | the question was fine |
| 04:14.26 | Lagbolt | if not background and forground |
| 04:14.31 | dudeman | how do I change the blue color to a lighter shade of that blue in xterm |
| 04:14.38 | dudeman | how is this hard to not understand? |
| 04:14.59 | dudeman | I am talking about modifying the color pallete, not foreground/background colors... |
| 04:15.00 | Lagbolt | the color from an "ls" or the default foreground |
| 04:15.05 | dudeman | like I said.. don't bother. |
| 04:15.07 | dudeman | thank you. |
| 04:15.33 | dudeman | Lagbolt, AHH! |
| 04:15.34 | dudeman | I know |
| 04:15.37 | Lagbolt | well dude, the "blue color" of what? you are not specific. foreground text? ls color output |
| 04:15.39 | dudeman | Lagbolt, for example |
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| 04:16.04 | dudeman | if the value of blue is 255,0,0 I find it too blue, I'd like a lighter shade |
| 04:16.12 | dudeman | like maybe 255,100,100 |
| 04:16.17 | dudeman | perhaps or something similar |
| 04:16.23 | dudeman | maybe this analogy you can understnad |
| 04:16.27 | dudeman | if not, I give up. |
| 04:16.31 | Lagbolt | hmm, well i know there was a program that showed those |
| 04:16.36 | Lagbolt | let me see if i can find it. |
| 04:16.41 | dudeman | awesome |
| 04:16.43 | dudeman | you da man |
| 04:16.55 | Lagbolt | yeah you could use things like blue2 and lightblue and what not |
| 04:17.05 | dudeman | yeh but you don't get it |
| 04:17.07 | Lagbolt | didnt have the RGB like you want but something simliar |
| 04:17.16 | Lagbolt | yeah you want a pallette |
| 04:17.22 | Lagbolt | R G B |
| 04:17.22 | dudeman | I want to actually change the value of that dark navy blue so that I have NO more navy blue, only light blue + lighter blue |
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| 04:17.33 | Lagbolt | right |
| 04:17.40 | dudeman | now we're on the same page :) |
| 04:18.14 | dudeman | I'll be looking on google again.. hilight me if you figure something out bro |
| 04:18.24 | Lagbolt | will do |
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| 04:19.54 | n-iCe | Hello, which soft can I use to copy a disc into other disc |
| 04:19.55 | Lagbolt | dudeman, i think i might have it |
| 04:20.12 | dudeman | Lagbolt, keep in mind for xterm |
| 04:20.21 | dudeman | in konsole or gnome-terminal it is very easy to modify the colors |
| 04:20.37 | Lagbolt | right, this uses .Xdefaults so you could use xterm* and what not. let me see |
| 04:20.48 | dudeman | oh ... |
| 04:20.57 | dudeman | I did not see any resources for that in the manpage |
| 04:21.05 | dudeman | to modify color values unless it eluded me |
| 04:21.24 | Lagbolt | dudeman, i am going to try it with mine real quick and see |
| 04:21.26 | dudeman | if you can find me the line# or page# or whatever in the manpage where these resources are locatted |
| 04:21.29 | dudeman | cool |
| 04:21.31 | dudeman | oh ok |
| 04:21.34 | Lagbolt | i dont see it in man page :( |
| 04:21.42 | dudeman | yeh me either |
| 04:21.49 | dudeman | Lagbolt, you wanna see my irssi |
| 04:21.50 | dudeman | ? |
| 04:22.06 | dudeman | !stoned |
| 04:22.07 | dpkg | sits in a corner rocking singing "jingle bells, jingle bells" quietly to himself with an evil grin on his face... as he touches himself ever so slightly... http://stoned.is.dreaming.org |
| 04:22.14 | dudeman | http://stoned.is.dreaming.org/irssi.jpg |
| 04:22.24 | dudeman | oh its not working |
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| 04:22.46 | Lagbolt | got it |
| 04:22.53 | dudeman | http://tinyurl.com/597cbz |
| 04:22.57 | dudeman | Lagbolt, check this out |
| 04:23.27 | dudeman | I want this blue color (the value I will get from konsole) in xterm |
| 04:23.36 | dudeman | I want to change Xterm's navy blue color to this shade of blue |
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| 04:24.43 | Lagbolt | so you just want to change the one color from navyblue to the rgb from konsole eh |
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| 04:25.03 | dudeman | Lagbolt, http://laptop.letme.getmyip.com:8181/~stoned/irssi.jpg <-- this blue |
| 04:26.10 | dudeman | Lagbolt, http://laptop.letme.getmyip.com:8181/~stoned/irssi.jpg <-- this blue (sorry check now I had to retake the SS) |
| 04:26.14 | dudeman | freaking pissing me off damn scrot |
| 04:26.34 | Lagbolt | lol is that right now? |
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| 04:26.42 | dudeman | yes sir |
| 04:26.49 | Lagbolt | i see lots of white. and some blue bg color in the top bar |
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| 04:26.57 | Lagbolt | is that the color you mean? |
| 04:27.02 | dudeman | look at the irssi window |
| 04:27.05 | Lagbolt | the Irssi v0.8 so on |
| 04:27.07 | dudeman | see the statusbar |
| 04:27.09 | Lagbolt | yeah |
| 04:27.13 | dudeman | yes, that lue |
| 04:27.14 | dudeman | blue |
| 04:27.22 | Lagbolt | gotcha |
| 04:27.27 | Lagbolt | at the bottom |
| 04:27.29 | dudeman | yes |
| 04:27.35 | dudeman | because I'm trying to ditch KDE |
| 04:27.42 | dudeman | so before I do, I want to fully configure the replacements |
| 04:27.59 | dudeman | either console, or simple x apps |
| 04:27.59 | Lagbolt | hmm is that color a function of the xterm or irssi tho |
| 04:28.08 | dudeman | konsole |
| 04:28.14 | Lagbolt | ok |
| 04:28.22 | dudeman | not $TERM=xterm and/or xterm-color |
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| 04:28.32 | Lagbolt | k |
| 04:28.39 | dudeman | xterm-color (holds color values for its pallete, which I can't figure out how to modify) |
| 04:28.46 | Lagbolt | let me see if i can find that |
| 04:29.39 | dudeman | n-iCe, hey |
| 04:29.44 | dudeman | n-iCe, stoned/Nyle here |
| 04:29.59 | dudeman | n-iCe, hey dude, I am sorry I didn't see your question. Did you ever find the answer? |
| 04:30.12 | dudeman | n-iCe, I personall use k3b but there are console tools to copy cds to cds |
| 04:30.35 | dudeman | n-iCe, assuming of cours you mean optical media, but what exactly do you mean copy a disk into a disk? |
| 04:31.10 | dudeman | you want to make a image of a disk and store it on another disk somewhere? or copy the contents of a disk to another disk or dir on that disk? |
| 04:31.15 | n-iCe | Oh thank you, didn't get the answer yet |
| 04:31.29 | n-iCe | dudeman: ok, I have a movie I would like to copy in other cd |
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| 04:32.22 | dudeman | n-iCe, you wish to make a video cd formatted cd or just copy the video file to a cd? like burn a file to d? |
| 04:32.25 | dudeman | cd* |
| 04:33.10 | n-iCe | Uhm I want to clone it. |
| 04:33.41 | dudeman | you have a movie file? like avi/mpg and you wish to make a video cd to watch in a video cd player? or what exactly. please provide more details |
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| 04:34.42 | n-iCe | I have my troy dvd movie, I want to clone the movie in other cd. |
| 04:34.59 | dudeman | you want to do something that cannot be done |
| 04:35.01 | n-iCe | So I guess the cd has the needed files |
| 04:35.04 | dudeman | you can copy the dvd to another dvd |
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| 04:35.18 | n-iCe | that's what I asked, didn't I? |
| 04:35.19 | dudeman | you can rip the movie from dvd and transcode it to fit a 700mb cd |
| 04:35.23 | dudeman | you said cd |
| 04:35.24 | n-iCe | copy the dvd to other dvd |
| 04:35.26 | dudeman | cd != dvd |
| 04:35.33 | n-iCe | oh, noo, haha sorry |
| 04:35.35 | n-iCe | dvd to dvd |
| 04:35.39 | dudeman | compact disk != digital video disk |
| 04:35.42 | n-iCe | yes yes, my bad |
| 04:35.45 | dudeman | ok |
| 04:36.17 | dudeman | n-iCe, aptitude search dvd |
| 04:36.19 | dudeman | :) |
| 04:36.49 | n-iCe | I am using brasero, copy disc option. |
| 04:36.56 | n-iCe | But after 15% I get |
| 04:36.57 | n-iCe | readom: Success. Cannot read source disk |
| 04:36.57 | n-iCe | readom: Retrying from sector 579392. |
| 04:37.13 | Lagbolt | dudeman, i think i got it. i messed up a bunch of colors lol |
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| 04:37.13 | dudeman | scratches? |
| 04:37.23 | dudeman | Lagbolt, hope you backedup your original config |
| 04:37.49 | n-iCe | dudeman: nope, is clean |
| 04:38.34 | dudeman | hm |
| 04:38.37 | dudeman | dunno then |
| 04:38.41 | n-iCe | yeah :/ |
| 04:38.43 | dudeman | I use k3b and/or gnome-baker |
| 04:38.45 | n-iCe | could be a dvd protection? |
| 04:38.47 | dudeman | k3b works good |
| 04:38.58 | dudeman | n-iCe, no idea I don't have much experience |
| 04:39.16 | Lagbolt | dudeman, each color is defined color0, color1 etc etc, not sure which is which yet but you can edit them in .Xdefaults and use #RRRGGGBBB to set them |
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| 04:39.47 | dudeman | uhuh |
| 04:39.56 | dudeman | where you find this ? |
| 04:39.58 | Lagbolt | question is which one is your BLUE that you hate |
| 04:40.14 | dudeman | Lagbolt, trial error or I'm sure the color index is listed somewhere |
| 04:40.17 | dudeman | I'll try to search the man |
| 04:40.22 | Lagbolt | well i found the colors at bottom of man page, and i have a color line in my Xdefaults so i changed them all |
| 04:40.23 | dudeman | thanks |
| 04:40.30 | dudeman | uhuh |
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| 04:40.37 | dudeman | pastebin |
| 04:40.39 | Lagbolt | ok |
| 04:40.43 | dudeman | :) |
| 04:40.51 | dudeman | brb |
| 04:40.51 | Catoptromancy | I saw the debian business card.iso installer grabbed some release file. Does this mean I can always download latest stable with same .iso? |
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| 04:41.45 | dudeman | sure |
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| 04:42.04 | dudeman | !netinst |
| 04:42.04 | dpkg | from memory, netinst is a small CD or set of floppy images which installs Debian using an Internet connection, but is not required for a base install to complete, see http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ If you use a dialup connection, ask me about <dialup install>. <netboot miniiso>, or ask me about <check iso image> |
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| 04:43.04 | Lagbolt | dudeman, http://pastebin.com/m46dd3f2 |
| 04:43.26 | Lagbolt | dudeman, you have to run "xrdb ~/.Xdefaults" to activate the change, i run it at login |
| 04:43.43 | Catoptromancy | heh was already reading that page |
| 04:43.57 | Lagbolt | it you use that one and do ls /dev you will see lots of red lol |
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| 04:44.11 | dudeman | Lagbolt, I am aware |
| 04:44.13 | dudeman | thank you |
| 04:44.26 | Lagbolt | cool |
| 04:44.34 | dudeman | you are the fucking man |
| 04:44.41 | dudeman | !Lagbolt++ |
| 04:44.48 | Lagbolt | there are 256 colors i think tho lol good luck |
| 04:44.55 | Lagbolt | if that doesnt do it i will see if i can find something else |
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| 04:45.34 | Lagbolt | dudeman, check this out!! http://www.red-bean.com/~decklin/software/notes.athena/Xresources |
| 04:45.39 | Lagbolt | scroll to his rgb stuff |
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| 04:59.57 | nirc | I'm having some problems with compressed tar archives. I make a tar in ESX, then transfer it to Windows via sftp, then back to ESX then it wont uncompress, I get "gzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--format violated" then "tar: Unexpected EOF in archive". The bytes are exact, and the type of files are vmware backups. Any ideas? |
| 05:00.21 | yosql | what's esx |
| 05:00.36 | dmoerner | newest vmware toy i believe |
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| 05:02.12 | yosql | how exactly are you making the tar |
| 05:02.46 | nirc | tar cvzf <archivename>.vmx.tgz |
| 05:02.49 | nirc | via a bash script |
| 05:03.15 | nirc | oh and esx linux with virtual machines |
| 05:03.41 | yosql | do you see a list of files when you do this? |
| 05:03.52 | nirc | yeah |
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| 05:04.03 | nirc | and when I test the tgz on that end it's fine |
| 05:04.21 | nirc | on the other end, it's corrupt |
| 05:04.42 | yosql | try scp rather than sftp |
| 05:05.05 | nirc | well this is the other thing I should mention, I wrote the program transfering the files |
| 05:05.17 | nirc | it's transfering from windows between the two hosts |
| 05:05.40 | nirc | it transfers in binary mode, and the bytes match exactly on the other end |
| 05:05.47 | nirc | but still wont open |
| 05:05.55 | yosql | is your program well tested for years? |
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| 05:06.17 | yosql | I thought you said you use sftp |
| 05:06.25 | nirc | the sftp engine is sharpssh, I read the blogs and no one reported any data corruption using it |
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| 05:07.00 | nirc | tested for years? i'd have to say yes.. but wouldn't rule it out as a cause |
| 05:07.15 | nirc | I was hopeing to rule everything else out |
| 05:07.19 | yosql | well I dunno, no matter who the author is it could have failed, or it might not be the problem |
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| 05:07.41 | nirc | that's true |
| 05:07.44 | yosql | isn't it going to be quicker to rule that out? |
| 05:08.25 | nirc | yeah I suppose.. what would be the best way to prove that the program fails transfering the file? Maybe with md5 checksums or something |
| 05:08.48 | yosql | that would help |
| 05:09.01 | nirc | could it have something to do with windows permissions |
| 05:09.48 | nirc | or perhaps there's another method of compression I could use |
| 05:10.10 | nirc | perhaps it's a problem between the two hosts uncompressing the files? |
| 05:10.30 | yosql | I'm not sure why the file is not just getting there and it's the same file |
| 05:11.16 | nirc | if the program were failing transfering the two files, wouldn't the bytes be off? |
| 05:11.23 | nirc | err the one file I mean |
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| 05:15.30 | optraz | the ip addres 0.0.0.0, does it have special meaning or reserved? |
| 05:16.45 | dondelelcaro | optraz: it means all addresses |
| 05:16.58 | dondelelcaro | (it's the equivalent of port 0) |
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| 05:19.13 | hramrach | Hello |
| 05:19.35 | hramrach | How doI configure traffic shaping? |
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| 05:20.57 | hramrach | I saw some docs on the web and wondershaper but thatsucks, and the docs describe pretty much the same thing. |
| 05:21.54 | rahsputin | How can erase everything that has ever been written in the commandline/terminal ? I would like to refresh it. |
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| 05:22.01 | hramrach | I want to reserve some bandwidth for different traffic classes and allow sharing of the leftover bandwidth - and it somehow does not work |
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| 05:22.12 | hramrach | rahsputin: reset? |
| 05:22.24 | hramrach | ^C? |
| 05:22.33 | hramrach | ^L? |
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| 05:22.45 | rahsputin | hramrach reset ? what do you mean, like reboot |
| 05:22.56 | hramrach | no, like reset |
| 05:23.13 | hramrach | that's a command for resetting terminals |
| 05:23.51 | hramrach | if you run it twice it usually fixes most terminal breakage, too |
| 05:25.03 | rahsputin | hramrach it reads :rosaunterhose@xSozioPath:~$ ^L |
| 05:25.03 | rahsputin | bash: :s^L: substitution failed |
| 05:25.03 | optraz | dondelelcaro: i still dont understand. |
| 05:26.30 | hramrach | ^ stands for control |
| 05:26.48 | hramrach | ^L = Ctrl + L |
| 05:28.13 | rahsputin | rosaunterhose@xSozioPath:~$ hramrach Oh, now i understand you, but thats not what i am looking for, i am looking to erase everything that has ever been written, like refresh the memory of the terminal totally |
| 05:28.29 | rahsputin | hramrach Oh, now i understand you, but thats not what i am looking for, i am looking to erase everything that has ever been written, like refresh the memory of the terminal totally |
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| 05:28.34 | hramrach | then use reset |
| 05:28.43 | dondelelcaro | rahsputin: eh? what's the actual problem? |
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| 05:29.41 | dondelelcaro | rahsputin: there's really no reason to ever need to do that. However, if you do actually need to do so, the methods are terminal dependent, as they involve clearing the scrollback buffer, amongst other things |
| 05:29.53 | rahsputin | dondelelcaro i think it is solved, the issue was that i what to erase the memory of the terminal |
| 05:29.59 | dondelelcaro | optraz: what in particular isn't clear? 0.0.0.0 is a special ip that means "listen on all ips" |
| 05:30.10 | dondelelcaro | rahsputin: why? |
| 05:30.26 | enouf | !wb dondelelcaro |
| 05:30.27 | dpkg | O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay! dondelelcaro has returned! |
| 05:30.49 | rahsputin | dondelelcaro i have written some stuff in it that i would like not to be there any more |
| 05:30.57 | enouf | ;-) |
| 05:31.08 | dondelelcaro | rahsputin: so close the terminal, and re-execute it. |
| 05:31.11 | optraz | dondelelcaro: so if that is the case, then i set my laptop ip to 0.0.0.0, it bascially receieve every network packet travel in that network which my laptop connected to ?> |
| 05:31.20 | dondelelcaro | optraz: uh, no. |
| 05:31.22 | nite613 | haha |
| 05:31.46 | rahsputin | and arrow UP will still have it in memory |
| 05:31.50 | dondelelcaro | optraz: 0.0.0.0 isn't a valid ip. |
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| 05:32.48 | dondelelcaro | rahsputin: that's got nothing to do with the terminal |
| 05:32.50 | optraz | dondelelcaro: so how/where does 0.0.0.0 apply to? |
| 05:33.22 | dondelelcaro | optraz: it only applies to bind and similar things |
| 05:33.22 | nite613 | optraz: If your machine has multiple IPs and an application want's to listen on all of them it will bind to 0.0.0.0 |
| 05:33.36 | nite613 | spurious ' |
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| 05:36.10 | optraz | dondelelcaro: nite613 so we cant assign the network int with IP 0.0.0.0 but the app can bind to 0.0.0.0 to listen for all interfaces |
| 05:36.13 | optraz | ? |
| 05:36.21 | dondelelcaro | optraz: right. What exactly are you trying to do? |
| 05:36.35 | nite613 | correct |
| 05:37.05 | optraz | dondelelcaro: i was just wondering what is 0.0.0.0 meant and where does it apply to |
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| 05:47.27 | MrNaz | the debian repository that i usually use appears to be offline... how do i change to a different one? is there a way to use dpkg-reconfigure on apt? |
| 05:48.43 | optraz | MrNaz: synaptic? |
| 05:48.56 | MrNaz | this is on a server via ssh |
| 05:49.04 | nagnag | google? |
| 05:49.25 | optraz | then edit it directly |
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| 05:49.45 | unop | !info netselect-apt | MrNaz |
| 05:49.48 | MrNaz | optraz oh... there's no way to get to the debconf ui? |
| 05:49.54 | foug | are there any debian specific guides that describe how to point apache to a domain name? I've followed the guides for installing apache, but that's all I can seem to find |
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| 05:50.14 | unop | MrNaz, have a look at netselect-apt |
| 05:51.20 | MrNaz | heh need to install it... i have no repo to access at the moment |
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| 05:52.22 | unop | foug, you get the public DNS system to resolve your domain name to an ip address at which your apache server listens on .. usually your domain reseller gives you a means of doing this |
| 05:52.31 | nagnag | MrNaz, man sources.list |
| 05:53.07 | MrNaz | nagnag yes, i know how to edit that, i was hoping for a way to get to the debconf menu where i can select repos from the list |
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| 05:57.31 | netdaemon | any kvm users here? i'm having an issue getting it to work even though my user is in the kvm group...not even root gets acceleration |
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| 05:57.48 | netdaemon | modprobed the kvm-intel driver as well |
| 05:58.11 | netdaemon | permisions on /dev/kvm are also correct |
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| 06:01.45 | mhymn | !tell netdaemon about kvm |
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| 06:01.56 | mhymn | that might help, i dont know though |
| 06:01.57 | kokice | hello |
| 06:02.30 | netdaemon | mhymn, thats the guide i followed |
| 06:03.09 | netdaemon | no complaints when i launch it from the terminal...just no acceleration at all |
| 06:03.15 | kokice | how do i try to find a certain package? like openssh server ? |
| 06:03.25 | kokice | is it dpkg -i package name |
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| 06:03.56 | foug | unop: hmm, allright, thanks. Any guides? :P |
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| 06:04.39 | mhymn | kokice: apt-cache search openssh |
| 06:05.03 | unop | foug, guides? silliness .. ask your domain reseller how to configure DNS . each reseller has different ways of doing this. |
| 06:05.34 | foug | unop: oh, well, i signed up at afriad.org for the DNS, didn't know i could use my ISP's DNS. |
| 06:06.07 | kokice | mhymn, thanks :P |
| 06:06.13 | mhymn | np |
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| 06:06.52 | foug | unop: but, i'm talking about an apache guide, as to what i do to say "hey apache, use this domain and this DNS, and then upload this webpage" ya know? |
| 06:07.42 | unop | foug, google for "site:apache.org virtualhosts" |
| 06:07.50 | foug | unop: awesome, thanks |
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| 06:15.05 | foug | unop: not to trouble you too much, but you could explain http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/urlmapping.html this in laymen's terms? |
| 06:16.48 | unop | foug, essentially they are different ways of mapping something like /file in a url like http://yourdomain.com/file to a file on disk that apache serves |
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| 06:17.13 | foug | oooh, allrighty, cool |
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| 06:22.34 | darmster | could someone assist me |
| 06:22.46 | foug | what's up? |
| 06:23.55 | darmster | well it's not technically a deb per se, but it's on my lenny box... simple apache question (no one awake in room) |
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| 06:24.27 | foug | heh, i'm just now learning to use apache ;P unop has been answering my questions, he might still be around |
| 06:25.26 | darmster | thanks looks like someone just woke up in debian room |
| 06:25.33 | darmster | oops apache |
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| 06:33.53 | mhymn | !tell darmster about ask |
| 06:34.21 | mhymn | even if nobody is awake! |
| 06:34.57 | Sling | darmster : tss, crossposting eh ;) |
| 06:35.35 | darmster | mhymn: thanks for the update |
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| 06:36.00 | darmster | :) |
| 06:37.18 | foug | so, when i do an apache command, say, Listen, do i need to be in a certain directory or anything? |
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| 06:38.24 | wols_ | foug: there are no apache commands |
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| 06:38.42 | foug | wols_: oh, well then |
| 06:39.13 | wols_ | Listen is a config file directive |
| 06:39.53 | foug | wols_: ahhh got'cha, allright thanks |
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| 06:51.02 | MariachiAC | Hello everyone. i've just installed debian and woudl liek to enable ssh. How do I do this? |
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| 06:52.46 | n-iCe | MariachiAC: apt-get install ssh |
| 06:52.58 | n-iCe | Open port 22 nad enjoy, ssh user@ip/host |
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| 06:53.46 | simonrvn | !open ports |
| 06:53.46 | dpkg | i guess open ports is # netstat -plunt, or lsof -i -n, or ask me about <open files>, or fuser -n tcp <portnumber> |
| 06:53.56 | simonrvn | wtf |
| 06:53.58 | MariachiAC | N-iCe: Ok, do i open port22 in my router or somewhere in debian. I went to canyouseeme.org and port 22 is not opened. |
| 06:54.20 | simonrvn | whatever box is running as a firewall yes |
| 06:54.39 | simonrvn | and port forward |
| 06:54.42 | n-iCe | Open it in your router, firewall, etc |
| 06:54.43 | n-iCe | yeah |
| 06:55.14 | MariachiAC | n-iCe: Ok, thank you. |
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| 07:09.42 | xtea | Anyone know why my ethernet interfaces are numbered eth6 -> eth8 ? |
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| 07:14.21 | zerwas_ | Can somebody give me a link on how to install a deb package in the home directory? (using ar or fakeroot perhaps?) |
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| 07:16.56 | simonrvn | zerwas: what? why not just use dpkg? |
| 07:17.27 | zerwas | simonrvn, i don't have root access |
| 07:18.04 | simonrvn | man dpkg; ar x; fakeroot won't help you. |
| 07:18.09 | zerwas | simonrvn, you mean with -root=$FOOBAR? |
| 07:18.19 | simonrvn | yes |
| 07:18.26 | simonrvn | -- |
| 07:18.46 | zerwas | simonrvn, of course, type. thank you |
| 07:19.08 | zerwas | s/type/typo |
| 07:19.13 | simonrvn | :) |
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| 07:22.00 | zerwas | simonrvn, but i get the message that i need superuser permissions to execute this command |
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| 07:22.03 | optraz | i have installed package A on debian. if for example a user change the source/config in one of the file belong to package A, can we check it and how ? |
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| 07:23.09 | zerwas | simonrvn, my fault, it's ok. |
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| 07:25.00 | simonrvn | zerwas: i knew that :P |
| 07:25.21 | zerwas | simonrvn, knew what? |
| 07:25.41 | simonrvn | s'ok |
| 07:26.25 | zerwas | simonrvn, i think i still don't get it. |
| 07:27.25 | simonrvn | forget it :) |
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| 07:28.05 | unop | optraz, debsums ? |
| 07:28.21 | zerwas | simonrvn, i meant: i still don't get on how to install the package. |
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| 07:28.38 | simonrvn | oh. so dpkg dpkg -x ~/foo or something, or use ar |
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| 07:30.43 | q^ | hi |
| 07:31.06 | q^ | my debian isn't loading /etc/rc.local |
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| 07:38.26 | joltcan | what are you trying to do i rc.local? |
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| 07:42.30 | Lagbolt | hmm |
| 07:42.45 | joltcan | q^: ^^^ |
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| 07:44.04 | mrAZ | m-a auto-install nvidia |
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| 07:44.14 | mrAZ | failed, i can't find why |
| 07:44.18 | q^ | joltcan ? |
| 07:44.45 | Lagbolt | mrAZ, can you post errors? |
| 07:44.49 | joltcan | q^: It is hard to figure out why your box doesnt load rc.local if you don't say what you actually are trying to do in rc.local |
| 07:44.50 | DimmuR | mrAZ: try /msg dpkg nvidia_post_etch |
| 07:45.11 | mrAZ | Lagbolt: i can't find any - where should i look ? |
| 07:45.11 | q^ | joltcan some ifconfig commands |
| 07:45.30 | q^ | joltcan add default route .. |
| 07:45.39 | joltcan | q^: With the full path? I usually put those in /etc/network/interfaces instead |
| 07:46.09 | joltcan | q^: And shoudln't you do that too if you are configuring network interfaces? |
| 07:46.31 | Lagbolt | mrAZ, it should have asked you if you want to view logs or something |
| 07:46.40 | mrAZ | there is just this : /var/cache/modass/nvidia-kernel-source.buildlog.2.6.26.1220427966 |
| 07:47.19 | mrAZ | Lagbolt: ... which does not tell me much |
| 07:48.00 | mrAZ | i am on testing, have sarge-backports in sources.list. anything else ? |
| 07:48.16 | Lagbolt | mrAZ, when it errors out what does it say? it must tell you about a log file that contains the errors |
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| 07:48.30 | Lagbolt | sarge-backports? |
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| 07:48.44 | Lagbolt | how old is this machine? |
| 07:49.55 | mrAZ | Lagbolt: i am trying to tell you : ma tells me about file /var/cache/modass/nvidia-kernel-source.buildlog.2.6.26.1220428115, which contains only : Build log starting, file: /var/cache/modass/nvidia-kernel-source.buildlog.2.6.26.1220428115 |
| 07:49.56 | mrAZ | Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 09:48:35 +0200 |
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| 07:50.15 | Lagbolt | mrAZ, and what is in that file |
| 07:50.31 | mrAZ | machine is wew enough, but some parts (like a case) are very old ;) |
| 07:50.48 | mrAZ | cat /var/cache/modass/nvidia-kernel-source.buildlog.2.6.26.1220428115 |
| 07:50.48 | mrAZ | Build log starting, file: /var/cache/modass/nvidia-kernel-source.buildlog.2.6.26.1220428115 |
| 07:50.49 | mrAZ | Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 09:48:35 +0200 |
| 07:50.57 | Lagbolt | dude do not paste that in here |
| 07:51.07 | Lagbolt | edit that file and look for the error |
| 07:51.15 | q^ | joltcan> i put also a script to run .. same.. |
| 07:51.32 | mrAZ | Lagbolt: you want me to go trouhg those 2 lines how many times exactly ? |
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| 07:52.20 | xtea | any idea why my ethernet interfaces are weirdly numbered eth6 -> eth8 ? |
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| 07:52.34 | Lagbolt | mrAZ, how about this. is this machine up today? you said sarge backports. that is ancient. |
| 07:53.09 | joltcan | q^: but if you write gateway then the defaultroute should be added correctly (if you specify netmask). I use "up /sbin/foobar" when I do commands in there. |
| 07:53.22 | larstr | I'm running debian 4.0 with volatile clamav signatures. Now it has stopped working after freshclam and upon update postfix is failing |
| 07:53.43 | larstr | I'm using clam-smtp from postfix |
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| 07:55.20 | larstr | errors here -> http://debian.pastebin.com/m12526546 |
| 07:58.16 | larstr | postfix start also fails now and throws the command line options to me |
| 07:58.39 | yosql | so you edited it? |
| 07:58.47 | larstr | no |
| 07:59.55 | yosql | you could reinstall the package |
| 08:00.05 | yosql | you could purge it first |
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| 08:00.07 | larstr | postfix? |
| 08:00.19 | yosql | that's what's not starting, right? |
| 08:00.23 | mrAZ | i think i am missing some sources - http://pastebin.ca/1192329 |
| 08:00.24 | larstr | yes |
| 08:00.37 | yosql | so yes, postfix |
| 08:00.45 | larstr | alright... |
| 08:00.46 | yosql | you'd have to configuree it fresh |
| 08:00.56 | larstr | I'll backup my cofnig first |
| 08:01.02 | yosql | so decide if you want to do that |
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| 08:02.02 | yosql | I leave the issue of forcing whatever is necessary to you |
| 08:02.14 | alcohol | under lenny, I added a new user. he tried to login through ssh, but got access denied. after 3 failed attempts, the ssh connection now just gets terminated whenever he just enters the username only. |
| 08:02.18 | alcohol | what did I miss? |
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| 08:02.26 | yosql | if you force remove a single package, replace it as quickly as possible |
| 08:02.38 | larstr | hmm.. |
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| 08:02.43 | yosql | btw, do you have incoming mail? |
| 08:02.57 | larstr | well.. atleast until this point... |
| 08:03.07 | mrAZ | do i need non-free for nvidia in testing ? |
| 08:03.08 | yosql | do you have mail in the queue? |
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| 08:03.13 | larstr | indeed |
| 08:03.47 | yosql | then I'd also backup the queue as well, or process it before removing |
| 08:03.55 | larstr | good point |
| 08:04.20 | alcohol | anyone? |
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| 08:04.37 | yosql | then, whatever else you have postfix doing, you're going to have to see if there's activity there and decide what to do |
| 08:04.55 | yosql | if you have a normal setup, that's probably it |
| 08:05.52 | mrAZ | having non-free in sources did not help. m-a a-i nvidia is still failing. |
| 08:06.04 | mrAZ | i hate to use nvidia installer ! |
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| 08:08.54 | alcohol | ok, question. my friend tried to login through ssh, but upon using the correct password - putty just closes, no warning or error or anything. upon entering a faulty password however, he gets access denied. so what could cause him to be disconnected when entering a good password? |
| 08:09.13 | et | something in his shell startup file |
| 08:09.15 | larstr | seems I'm having the same issue reported here -> http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org/msg557256.html |
| 08:09.28 | alcohol | et: but I just created the user, he hasn't accessed the system before yet |
| 08:09.34 | alcohol | et: so there should be no such file yet? |
| 08:09.55 | et | there should be, but they shouldn't error out |
| 08:10.03 | et | what happens when you su - to that user? |
| 08:10.26 | alcohol | nothing seems to happen |
| 08:11.24 | mrAZ | apt-get build-dep nvidia-graphics-drivers results as : E: Unable to find a source package for nvidia-graphics-drivers |
| 08:11.28 | alcohol | I can't seem to su the user |
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| 08:12.49 | et | what shell does the user have? |
| 08:13.00 | alcohol | oh |
| 08:13.06 | alcohol | I just looked in /etc/passwd |
| 08:13.10 | alcohol | they have /bin/none |
| 08:13.14 | alcohol | err, /bin/false |
| 08:13.18 | alcohol | that must be the problem |
| 08:13.19 | alcohol | x: |
| 08:13.50 | et | how did you create the user? ;) |
| 08:13.51 | alcohol | fixed it (: |
| 08:13.53 | alcohol | adduser |
| 08:13.58 | alcohol | but I never used the shell option |
| 08:14.03 | alcohol | I figured it would work by default x: |
| 08:14.05 | alcohol | my bad |
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| 08:15.02 | et | alcohol: use useradd for user creation |
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| 08:18.24 | S[h]O[r]T | if i add a route how can i save it so that it survives after a reboot |
| 08:19.54 | thomas | shingouz: Hello. |
| 08:19.54 | LeoDing | i am using debian OS,may i using sources of ubuntu ? |
| 08:20.17 | joltcan | S[h]O[r]T: add it in /etc/network/interfaces to the interface you want it for with an "up" clause |
| 08:20.22 | thomas | S[h]O[r]T: Hello. open this file "/etc/network/interfaces" and add example: post-up route add -net 12.12.14.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 gw 12.12.12.4 |
| 08:20.30 | thomas | joltcan: :P |
| 08:20.52 | S[h]O[r]T | ahh k |
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| 08:20.58 | S[h]O[r]T | thx |
| 08:21.00 | joltcan | thomas: ^5 |
| 08:21.10 | joltcan | S[h]O[r]T: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-gateway.en.html, scroll to 10.6 |
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| 08:23.58 | LeoDing | hello~~~~~~~~~~~~WHO CAN HELP ME?I am using debian OS,may i using sources of ubuntu ? |
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| 08:27.50 | vaq | LeoDing: no |
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| 08:28.49 | mrAZ | et: thx for hint, step 9) m-a a-i nvidia failed, what should i do ? |
| 08:29.08 | streuner | lenny? |
| 08:29.12 | et | !doesn't work |
| 08:29.12 | dpkg | Look buddy, "doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message". |
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| 08:30.13 | LeoDing | vaq:WHY?if i do,what's happening ? |
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| 08:31.13 | streuner | !factinfo nvidia lenny |
| 08:31.13 | dpkg | nvidia lenny -- created by jelly <n=jelly@lan.iskon.hr> at Tue Jul 15 10:29:04 2008 (49 days); it has been requested 31 times, last by streuner, 1m 2s ago. |
| 08:32.03 | mrAZ | et: can you have a lokk pls ? http://pastebin.com/m2e3b2bfe |
| 08:32.59 | et | why do you have a backports-deb in testing? |
| 08:33.36 | streuner | !listauth gsimmons |
| 08:33.36 | dpkg | factoid author list by 'gsimmons' (15 of 402): antix ;; at76_usb-install ;; attansic ;; dccp ;; hardware virtualization ;; install stable ;; iwl4965 firmware ;; linux-wlan-ng install ;; mod-cband ;; mwavem ;; nut ;; wab501 ;; wl167g ;; wpc54gv2 ;; wusb54g. |
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| 08:33.40 | mrAZ | et: i don't have |
| 08:33.41 | streuner | holy crap |
| 08:34.05 | et | mrAZ: # |
| 08:34.06 | et | mrAZ: nvidia-kernel-2.6.26 depends on nvidia-kernel-common (>= 20051028+1-0.1); however: |
| 08:34.09 | et | # |
| 08:34.12 | et | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:34.14 | et | gna. |
| 08:34.20 | et | don't use pastebin.com :/ |
| 08:34.20 | streuner | there is a factoid for nvidia and lenny |
| 08:34.34 | mrAZ | et: i had it there before, but took it out |
| 08:34.36 | streuner | failed to find that yet |
| 08:35.14 | et | streuner: i gave it to him half an hour ago, he said it failed |
| 08:35.30 | et | mrAZ: then remove the packages from backports.org |
| 08:35.42 | yosql | you might not have backport sources, but you have backport packages installed |
| 08:35.54 | streuner | et: usually it works, but packages are frozen |
| 08:35.55 | et | as the error message says, you do have the backports package installed |
| 08:36.01 | mrAZ | et: i apt-get updated after correcting sources, thats not enough ? |
| 08:36.25 | et | i already said you have to remove the packages |
| 08:36.42 | streuner | et: the normal onliner factoid or the spezial factoid, only for lenny? |
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| 08:36.56 | mrAZ | going to read how to find out what packages to remove |
| 08:37.19 | yosql | since you do, you've extended the dependency graph of your installed packages to an area your sources no longer cover |
| 08:37.50 | yosql | one package is obvious |
| 08:37.58 | et | mrAZ: at least nvidia-kernel-common, as the error message says |
| 08:38.33 | mrAZ | ok, i just did, trying to go again from start |
| 08:38.51 | streuner | et: oh, nm :-) |
| 08:38.55 | yosql | how exactly? |
| 08:40.04 | mrAZ | yosql: was it to me ? apt-get remove nvidia-kernel-common |
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| 08:41.26 | q^ | how do I create email account for postfix ? |
| 08:41.27 | yosql | you might have to purge it |
| 08:42.30 | streuner | q^: just create a new user? |
| 08:43.04 | mrAZ | i have the same problem with m-a a-i nvidia. how do i remove it ? i tried apt-get purge, but says it is not installed |
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| 08:43.35 | q^ | streuner> i have a user , but when i try to login into squirelmail web interface login failed |
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| 08:44.33 | streuner | use ilohamail, i have no idea about squirelmail :-) |
| 08:45.13 | simonrvn | squirrelmail is ok, but a bit picky. |
| 08:45.32 | idimmu | how is it picky? |
| 08:45.41 | mrAZ | now m-a a-i nvidia wants nvidia-kernel-common, but that is only available from another source. |
| 08:45.41 | simonrvn | you have to know the software you're trying to mesh together. |
| 08:45.55 | simonrvn | has used it for years |
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| 08:46.02 | mrAZ | where is the logic ? |
| 08:46.15 | idimmu | hmm, i found it trivially easy to set it up using dovecot/imap on the same server |
| 08:46.19 | idimmu | but im no expert by any means |
| 08:46.25 | simonrvn | you don't want -kernel-common |
| 08:46.46 | mrAZ | i don't, but "m-a a-i nvidia" ;) |
| 08:46.49 | simonrvn | idimmu: oh yes, but apparently you know your stuff there, hehe |
| 08:47.18 | idimmu | i think its more the package manager is just really nice and it mostly worked outta the box :) |
| 08:47.43 | idimmu | *maintainer |
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| 08:48.11 | simonrvn | the script is handy =) |
| 08:48.24 | idimmu | aye |
| 08:48.29 | simonrvn | but i think it comes with it, and the dd put it in the right place |
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| 08:50.18 | WormFood | openoffice.org says I'm missing libodbc.so...does anyone know off hand which package i need to install to 'fix' this? |
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| 08:51.39 | saintiss | hi all |
| 08:52.02 | saintiss | just did a network install of etch on a hp tx2550ed laptop, which worked fine, but now that I boot into etch, suddenly the network connection doesn't seem to work? |
| 08:52.06 | saintiss | how is that possible? |
| 08:52.08 | saintiss | eth0 is up |
| 08:52.14 | saintiss | with the exact same config as in the installer |
| 08:52.16 | saintiss | where it worked just fine |
| 08:52.22 | saintiss | now I get timeouts whatever I do |
| 08:52.32 | saintiss | iptables -L gives no firewall restrictions |
| 08:52.37 | saintiss | it's a default install anyway |
| 08:52.55 | rmrfchik | WormFood: unixodbc: |
| 08:53.01 | rmrfchik | unixodbc: /usr/lib/libodbc.so.1 |
| 08:53.08 | WormFood | thanks rmrfchik |
| 08:53.55 | WormFood | I saw that on the list of files, but several others too....didn't know which package was the right on |
| 08:53.57 | saintiss | if I do "ifup", it says "link is not ready" |
| 08:54.10 | WormFood | sounds like your network cable isn't connected |
| 08:54.31 | saintiss | WormFood, but it worked in the installer! |
| 08:54.53 | WormFood | I know, you said that already |
| 08:55.27 | WormFood | check your /etc/network/interfaces file |
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| 08:55.40 | saintiss | WormFood, did that, it contains all the right info |
| 08:55.45 | WormFood | it may have renumbered your network interfaces, if you have more than 1 interface |
| 08:55.52 | saintiss | I don't, just eth0 |
| 08:55.59 | saintiss | even route output is fine |
| 08:56.00 | WormFood | my laptop has 2 interfaces |
| 08:56.03 | saintiss | as is ifconfig output |
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| 08:56.53 | WormFood | do you get link lights on the network connection |
| 08:56.54 | WormFood | sure your cable isn't bad? |
| 08:57.04 | saintiss | WormFood, I tried a different cable as well, same problem |
| 08:57.05 | WormFood | I mean, link lights on the network interface (jack)? |
| 08:57.14 | WormFood | dmesg? |
| 08:57.24 | saintiss | I do get link lights yes |
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| 08:57.38 | WormFood | ping work? |
| 08:57.46 | saintiss | no |
| 08:57.53 | mrAZ | dpkg -l | grep nvidia shows me : rc nvidia-kernel-common, apt-get remove or purge says is not installed. what does th "rc" on begining of the line stands for ? |
| 08:57.53 | dpkg | No packages found matching | grep nvidia shows me : rc nvidia-kernel-common, apt-get remove or purge says is not installed. what does th "rc" on begining of the line stands for |
| 08:58.04 | WormFood | static or dhcp? |
| 08:58.16 | saintiss | static |
| 08:58.22 | rchi | !z25 |
| 08:58.22 | dpkg | As of version 0.090, udev has the ability to statically rename ethernet cards based on MAC address. The addresses are configured in /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules . If you want the mappings to change, edit that file. See <forcedeth mac>. As of version 0.124-1 the file is called /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules . |
| 08:58.24 | WormFood | can you ping yourself? |
| 08:58.34 | rchi | saintiss, check that file |
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| 08:58.58 | saintiss | WormFood, yes |
| 08:59.02 | saintiss | rchi, ok, will do |
| 08:59.24 | WormFood | can you copy/paste me your ifconfig eth0 output? |
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| 09:00.03 | saintiss | WormFood, that's difficult, but it's fine |
| 09:00.30 | WormFood | can you ping your gateway? |
| 09:01.08 | WormFood | sure your IP address isn't conflicting with another device on your network? |
| 09:01.19 | saintiss | no and yes |
| 09:01.54 | WormFood | huh? |
| 09:02.01 | saintiss | no gateway ping |
| 09:02.03 | saintiss | yes I'm sure |
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| 09:05.00 | Harsu | can you somehow access a console thats open at home with SSH? |
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| 09:05.05 | rchi | saintiss, what the contents of /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules all good? the line with your network should = eth0 yeah? |
| 09:05.11 | rchi | s/what/was |
| 09:06.15 | saintiss | rchi, hang on, I rebooted into installer, where it doesn't work anymore either :( |
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| 09:06.57 | vaq | Unknown command 'create-md'. |
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| 09:07.19 | vaq | Unknown command 'create-md'. - When I use drbdadm create-md as the howto says, any ideas (DRBD) |
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| 09:07.28 | gpb | hi |
| 09:07.52 | WormFood | good luck with it saintiss...I'm gonna take a nap |
| 09:08.03 | gpb | i tried to compile a C program that has the following include: |
| 09:08.05 | gpb | #include <netinet/ip_tcp.h> |
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| 09:08.24 | gpb | yes, it's around 10 years old |
| 09:08.35 | saintiss | rchi, there is only one line in the udev file |
| 09:08.38 | saintiss | with eth0 |
| 09:08.46 | gpb | I found that some old libc package had it... is there a way to get it for newer debians? |
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| 09:09.29 | Somni | gpb: you probably want netinet/ip.h, or netinet/tcp.h |
| 09:09.46 | Harsu | can you remotely access a console? |
| 09:09.51 | gpb | yeah, but where to get it from? |
| 09:09.56 | gpb | any .deb for it? |
| 09:10.17 | gpb | or kernel package? |
| 09:10.22 | joltcan | Harsu: ssh? |
| 09:10.34 | Harsu | joltcan: a console that is already open |
| 09:10.49 | Somni | netinet/* is in libc6-dev |
| 09:11.00 | joltcan | Harsu: That I think is hard. You could probably only kill it |
| 09:11.05 | gpb | hmmm, this package is installed |
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| 09:11.27 | Harsu | joltcan: lol now how would that help me |
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| 09:11.33 | gpb | ah, found it |
| 09:11.42 | joltcan | Harsu: I don't know what you want to do with it :) |
| 09:11.45 | gpb | locate tcp.h didn't find it, |
| 09:11.54 | gpb | locate netinet does |
| 09:12.00 | Somni | gpb: in future, packages.debian.org lets you search for the contents of packages |
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| 09:12.04 | Harsu | well fuck |
| 09:12.04 | saintiss | what about this NetworkManager stuff? |
| 09:12.08 | saintiss | maybe that's causing trouble? |
| 09:13.36 | rchi | saintiss, maybe try using a live cd of another distro to see if it's debian |
| 09:14.53 | vampirefrog | hi guys. I'm having trouble booting. I got a new mobo (Asus P5Q PRO) and linux gets stuck saying 'waiting for root device'... I've tried a bunch of things like replacing "root=/dev/hda3" with "root=/dev/sda3", tried all_generic_ide, I even tried hda=pata_marvell and sda=pata_marvell (I heard about the pata_marvell driver on an gentoo wiki)... still stuck. |
| 09:15.42 | vampirefrog | it has P45 chipset |
| 09:15.50 | gpb | ahhh, i would have to search for netinet/tcp.h not tcp.h |
| 09:15.52 | gpb | thanks |
| 09:16.08 | vampirefrog | any liveCDs I tried failed one way or another as well |
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| 09:16.53 | larstr | ok.. up and running again.. seems like SaneSecurity sigs broke clamav |
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| 09:18.37 | gpb | ok, compiling further |
| 09:18.49 | gpb | now I need to replace netinet/protocols.h include |
| 09:18.51 | xdr | hmm, debian encrypted base system with xen + freebsd + openbsd for servers ..sounds like a good plan? |
| 09:19.57 | pogay | when I check policy to my sql-server on a debian sarge, I see that a newer version 5x is available now. How can I install or update without risk? |
| 09:20.00 | grub | hello, lenny doesn't have linux-headers for 2.6.26-1 ? |
| 09:20.51 | julian_laptop | it does. |
| 09:21.14 | grub | julian_laptop, which package? |
| 09:21.27 | pogay | vampirefrog: usually you see all available devices, it may be hd... |
| 09:21.38 | julian_laptop | My mistake, I am using sid. Sorry grub. :-( |
| 09:21.44 | grub | oh |
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| 09:21.46 | vampirefrog | pogay, where do I see all available devices? |
| 09:21.47 | pogay | vampirefrog: depends on distribution, but lenny might be hd.. |
| 09:21.55 | vampirefrog | I have lenny |
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| 09:23.42 | pogay | vampirefrog: usually, when you start up, you see it in the messages. |
| 09:23.58 | vampirefrog | there are a looooooooot of messages, never seen so many ;) |
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| 09:24.07 | vampirefrog | the board has many usb and sata ports |
| 09:24.21 | vampirefrog | so they just scroll away... how can I make it stop scrolling? |
| 09:24.28 | vampirefrog | I tried scroll lock and pause |
| 09:24.33 | vampirefrog | but doesnt work |
| 09:24.45 | julian_laptop | tried a different HDD? |
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| 09:25.16 | pogay | vampirefrog: o.k. you came to a minimal shell, you can try to mount the disk... |
| 09:25.26 | vampirefrog | it's the only one I have, an IDE 250GB |
| 09:25.32 | vampirefrog | pogay, no minimal shell :( |
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| 09:25.35 | bjwebb | i want to be able to ssh from machine A to machine B, but i can't, as B is firewalled - however i can ssh from B to A, is there a way that i can use this to my advantage? |
| 09:25.46 | vampirefrog | knoppix gave me a minimal shell tho |
| 09:25.51 | pogay | what is the result of boot? |
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| 09:26.12 | vampirefrog | pogay, I'm confused? which boot now? |
| 09:26.25 | julian_laptop | have you been able to mount the HDD off the live cd? |
| 09:26.37 | pogay | vampirefrog: I made a lot of tests with lenny, and I always fell to a minimal busibox shell. |
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| 09:26.56 | vampirefrog | pogay, nope, mine just gets stuck at 'waiting for root filesystem' |
| 09:27.07 | vampirefrog | after the kernel loads, I guess |
| 09:27.24 | vampirefrog | I also get some errors from 'nbd' or something like that |
| 09:27.35 | pogay | vampirefrog: you have to wait a bit. may be a minute or two... |
| 09:27.41 | vampirefrog | hm.. |
| 09:28.04 | pogay | vampirefrog: not hours, but quite a long time. |
| 09:28.31 | vampirefrog | :( |
| 09:28.32 | vampirefrog | dang |
| 09:28.43 | vampirefrog | is there a way to make the number of backscroll lines bigger? |
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| 09:31.08 | pogay | vampirefrog: the kernal and intrd was o.k. and so the disk should be readable... |
| 09:31.21 | vampirefrog | hm.. yes.. |
| 09:31.52 | pogay | vampirefrog: I'm right, you have an installation on PC and you start via grub? |
| 09:31.59 | vampirefrog | yes |
| 09:32.08 | vampirefrog | worked fine until I changed the mobo :) |
| 09:32.17 | vampirefrog | now I'm in windows |
| 09:34.19 | vampirefrog | I'll try it again, so brb |
| 09:34.38 | pogay | vampirefrog: ah. strange. yeah but try to watch while booting, you see the devices... |
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| 09:35.08 | vampirefrog | they scroll by really fast :( |
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| 09:36.09 | pogay | and even after a while, you don't come to busybox-commandline? |
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| 09:36.32 | g00se | This doesn't make sense to me. I've 2 Etches. Same sources.list. One returns something for apt-cache search frostwire, the other doesn't |
| 09:36.42 | vampirefrog | i didn't have patience to wait for it :) |
| 09:36.50 | petemc | g00se: you've ran apt-get update on both? |
| 09:37.02 | g00se | petemc: yep |
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| 09:37.43 | vampirefrog | is there a way to stop console scrolling while booting? |
| 09:37.52 | g00se | petemc: hang on. I'll just double-check |
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| 09:38.14 | pogay | vampirefrog: isn't there a debian-based bootable arround, I guess gparted-live cd, and then you can see, what drivenames you have, and wether you can access the HD |
| 09:38.14 | wols_ | vampirefrog: press ctrl+s or pause |
| 09:38.32 | vampirefrog | ah, luckily i have gparted live |
| 09:38.46 | vampirefrog | ok I'll try ctrl+s, thanks |
| 09:38.49 | vampirefrog | well, brb |
| 09:38.49 | vampirefrog | :) |
| 09:38.59 | pogay | vampirefrog: good luck |
| 09:39.02 | wols_ | vampirefrog: for P45 chipsets you need a newer kernel or AHCI mode |
| 09:39.23 | wols_ | 2.6.25 or 2.6.26 is needed for P46 support IIRC |
| 09:40.02 | pogay | wols_: it's strange that his kernel and initrd seem's to be o.k. in startup... grub seem's to know too. |
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| 09:40.46 | g00se | petemc: yep. I'm going to try aptitude install frostwire on the one that returns nothing |
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| 09:41.46 | Pavlz | hello |
| 09:42.05 | g00se | Got expected outcome |
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| 09:43.19 | Orion_X11 | I have installed debian testing and it did not asked me to give a computer name to my machine, but took the name "localhost" as default. I remember that it it used to ask which name I would like to give to the machine. So, where and how to I change my computer name? It is dangerous to make this changing? |
| 09:43.32 | Pavlz | i saw my own peronal e-mail: it's arrived a message that communicate to me: Free Software Foundation.Inc and GNU Software "25 years happy birthday" http://gnu.org |
| 09:44.03 | Knight_Lord | Orion_X11 man hostname |
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| 09:44.14 | simonrvn | Orion_X11: /etc/hostname . no. man hostname . |
| 09:44.55 | Knight_Lord | Orion_X11 you will also have to change /etc/hostname |
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| 09:46.24 | g00se | Is there a scenario where you could get a package from, say, Ubuntu and then somehow have it appear to be part of Debian thereafter? |
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| 09:46.42 | Orion_X11 | simonrvn: Knight_Lord: Do I have to change anything else? Change and reboot? |
| 09:46.54 | wols_ | pogay: no it's not strange. grub, the kernel and initrd are all loaded via BIOS int13h |
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| 09:47.28 | wols_ | g00se: no. you can, if you are lucky "backport" it |
| 09:47.39 | wols_ | but only if dependencies work out |
| 09:48.23 | Knight_Lord | Orion_X11 no |
| 09:49.28 | g00se | wols_: Just trying to figure out how this weird phenomenon occurred that i referred to earlier |
| 09:50.37 | wols_ | g00se: apt-cache polioy <package> |
| 09:50.44 | wols_ | run it on both machines |
| 09:51.03 | g00se | wols_: ok |
| 09:51.24 | wols_ | !info frostwire etch |
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| 09:52.04 | wols_ | there is no frostwire on etch |
| 09:52.37 | g00se | wols_: W: Unable to locate package frostwire - on the 'nay-saying' box |
| 09:53.49 | g00se | wols_: I think it somehow could have come from Ubuntu, since apt-cache show frostwire contains "We recommend installing sun-java5-jre from the multiverse." |
| 09:53.57 | pogay | wols_: ah, o.k. thanks |
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| 09:59.21 | g00se | wols_: If the package had come from Ubuntu, could apt-cache be behaving like this? |
| 10:00.07 | wols_ | g00se: the package came from a repo which isn't in your sources.list anymore |
| 10:00.20 | wols_ | e.g. at one time the repo was there, you installed the package, then you removed the repo |
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| 10:02.05 | g00se | wols_: Was thinking that could be it. Would that fit with the behaviour of apt-cache then? |
| 10:02.30 | wols_ | I won't tell you the same over and over just cause you don't read |
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| 10:02.58 | pogay | g00se: in my Ubuntu 8.04 there is no package frostwire |
| 10:03.00 | g00se | wols_: OK ;-) |
| 10:03.08 | g00se | wols_: Thanks |
| 10:03.52 | g00se | pogay: Right. Getting curious again then |
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| 10:04.24 | vampirefrog | back |
| 10:04.52 | pogay | vampirefrog: did you have a sucess? |
| 10:04.56 | vampirefrog | gparted livecd seems to work, and it recognizes /dev/sda |
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| 10:05.06 | vampirefrog | and while booting I see |
| 10:05.17 | vampirefrog | some messages about loading pata_marvell and sda something |
| 10:05.22 | pogay | as wols sayed, did you also check your kernel version? |
| 10:05.26 | vampirefrog | but when I boot my debian, i don't see those |
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| 10:05.38 | vampirefrog | kernel is 2.6.25-2-686 (and I also have 486) |
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| 10:08.07 | pogay | vampirefrog: I'm not specialist, but may be a module is missing in initrd for your mobo |
| 10:08.17 | vampirefrog | modules in initrd? |
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| 10:08.25 | vampirefrog | initrd is like a disk with stuff in it? |
| 10:08.47 | vampirefrog | ok then how can I insert the module into initrd? |
| 10:09.06 | vampirefrog | sounds brilliant actually :) |
| 10:09.32 | pogay | vampirefrog: if the kernal version is o.k., the module might not be loaded, or something. In busybox you could insmod the modules, and mount the / -path... |
| 10:09.47 | vampirefrog | i waited and waited... no busybox |
| 10:10.00 | pogay | vampirefrog: ah, no... |
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| 10:15.34 | vampirefrog | I guess I have to make a custom initrd |
| 10:15.49 | vampirefrog | can't I just copy the initrd from the gparted disc? |
| 10:16.07 | pogay | vampirefrog: you could try to install a lenny parallel. if it works, you see wether a new lenny can access the disk... |
| 10:16.29 | vampirefrog | what's a lenny parallel? |
| 10:16.36 | vampirefrog | I already have lenny btw |
| 10:18.43 | vampirefrog | how about I chroot from cdrom to the hd installation and apt-get reconfigure linux-image-*** |
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| 10:19.47 | Rawplayer | in which package can i find LWP::UserAgent ? |
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| 10:19.53 | vampirefrog | well, brb again |
| 10:19.55 | pogay | vampirefrog: certainly you can try a chroot, and try to correct the installation. |
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| 10:35.17 | mrAZ | et |
| 10:35.44 | mrAZ | can you send me those hints about nvidia post sarge again pls ? |
| 10:36.01 | et | dpkg: nvidia lenny |
| 10:36.01 | dpkg | it has been said that nvidia_lenny is first say !nvidia_lenny_1 and then !nvidia_lenny_2 |
| 10:36.17 | Grunt | Is there a netinstall CD of Debian Lenny? |
| 10:36.31 | h3king | sid change the gdm theme!! |
| 10:36.53 | h3king | beautiful |
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| 10:37.10 | decapithaine | hello |
| 10:37.27 | vampirefrog | hi :P |
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| 10:40.10 | deus___ | !nvidia_lenny_1 |
| 10:40.10 | dpkg | nvidia_lenny_1 is, like, 1) add "deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free" to /etc/apt/sources.list, replacing de with your country code 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get build-dep nvidia-graphics-drivers 4) apt-get -b source nvidia-graphics-drivers |
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| 10:40.27 | deus___ | !nvidia_lenny_2 |
| 10:40.28 | dpkg | rumour has it, nvidia_lenny_2 is 5) update-pciids 6) apt-get install module-assistant 7) dpkg -i *nvidia-kernel-source*.deb 8) m-a prepare 9) m-a a-i nvidia 10) dpkg -i *nvidia-glx*.deb 11) depmod -a 12) modprobe nvidia 13) dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 10:40.36 | deus___ | never checked this :D |
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| 10:42.51 | et | i wonder if the glx stuff will get into lenny before relase or if they are going to release lenny without nvidia support |
| 10:43.11 | wols_ | it will get in. probably :) |
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| 10:51.59 | stodan | is polish translation of man e2fsck outdated, ot that program on debian is old and does not support ext3? |
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| 10:52.24 | stodan | or that* |
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| 10:52.39 | wols_ | it does support ext3 |
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| 10:53.49 | pogay | vampirefrog: does it work now? |
| 10:53.59 | vampirefrog | nope |
| 10:54.25 | vampirefrog | I tried copying the initrd from the gparted thing, but it's a different kernel version and it says it can't find modules.map or something |
| 10:54.44 | wols_ | vampirefrog: what kernel verion on the gparted livecd? |
| 10:54.49 | vampirefrog | uhm |
| 10:54.53 | vampirefrog | 2.6.24 i think |
| 10:55.02 | vampirefrog | and I have 2.6.25 on the debian inst |
| 10:55.10 | wols_ | I don't think so.2.6.24 has no support for ICH10 |
| 10:55.18 | pogay | vampirefrog: yeah, you could copy probably kernel and initrd, but be shure if you can access the disk. |
| 10:55.28 | vampirefrog | the kernel eh? |
| 10:55.36 | vampirefrog | I can access the disk if I boot the gparted cd |
| 10:55.38 | vampirefrog | it's /dev/sda |
| 10:56.00 | wols_ | vampirefrog: that doesn't answer my question |
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| 10:56.14 | pogay | I mean theoretically you can boot gparted and allocate the root of your installation... |
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| 10:56.50 | vampirefrog | uhm |
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| 10:57.09 | vampirefrog | no, I'm booting the gparted cd only because it boots and recognises the hdd. not to edit partitions |
| 10:57.13 | vampirefrog | i just use its shell |
| 10:57.30 | wols_ | vampirefrog: will you answer? |
| 10:57.39 | vampirefrog | wait, answer what? |
| 10:57.41 | pogay | vampirefrog: with parallel installation I meant, you could try to reinstall a new lenny, to see wether the hard disk can be read. |
| 10:58.00 | wols_ | pogay: what good will that do? |
| 10:58.27 | vampirefrog | wols_, if I boot the gparted cd, it recognises and it's able to write to the hdd |
| 10:58.34 | vampirefrog | so I guess it has all necessary drivers |
| 10:58.42 | wols_ | vampirefrog: either answer my fscking question or stop talking to me! |
| 10:59.00 | vampirefrog | I don't understand what the question is |
| 10:59.06 | pogay | wols_: I thought, lenny might install the correct modules, when installed new.... (he changed the mobo). |
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| 10:59.16 | wols_ | 12:55 < wols_> vampirefrog: what kernel verion on the gparted livecd? |
| 10:59.25 | vampirefrog | oh, 2.6.24 |
| 10:59.28 | vampirefrog | I already said that :) |
| 10:59.34 | vampirefrog | <wols_> vampirefrog: what kernel verion on the gparted livecd? |
| 10:59.35 | vampirefrog | <vampirefrog> uhm |
| 10:59.35 | vampirefrog | <vampirefrog> 2.6.24 i think |
| 10:59.38 | wols_ | no you said you "believed" |
| 10:59.44 | vampirefrog | yarr |
| 10:59.49 | wols_ | you "think". you don't KNOW |
| 11:00.00 | vampirefrog | that sounds so gnostic :) |
| 11:00.04 | wols_ | and .24 has not ICH10 support as I already told you |
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| 11:00.16 | wols_ | vampirefrog: and you sound ignorant |
| 11:00.27 | vampirefrog | I'm a layed back gang banger :)) |
| 11:00.27 | wols_ | scratch the "sound" actually |
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| 11:00.38 | vampirefrog | brb |
| 11:00.40 | wols_ | and I'm a vampirefrog ignore from now on. good day |
| 11:00.46 | wols_ | *ignorer |
| 11:01.00 | vampirefrog | what an angry dude :) |
| 11:01.17 | vampirefrog | I'll try the live cd again |
| 11:01.23 | vampirefrog | I'll copy the kernel this time too |
| 11:01.32 | vampirefrog | brb |
| 11:01.41 | pogay | vampirefrog: this channel is acually a support channel... |
| 11:01.43 | vampirefrog | should I also copy the modules? |
| 11:02.17 | pogay | vampirefrog: my Idee was, you can start any kernel and initrd, and the mount your root. |
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| 11:02.43 | pogay | vampirefrog: but of course, the m |
| 11:02.52 | wols_ | pogay: using a gparted live cd kernel for running debian is kinda dumb idea |
| 11:02.53 | pogay | odules have to support your mobo |
| 11:03.56 | spx2 | I have tightvnc installed on a linux machine and running tightvnc client from windows,I can't seem to be getting the alt+backspace combination to work,and also none of alt+anything combinations to work at all...what should I do ? |
| 11:04.33 | wols_ | spx2: what debian version? |
| 11:04.43 | pogay | wols_: you may be right. he has to check his installation wether kernel an modulase are correct. |
| 11:05.04 | spx2 | wols_: well etch |
| 11:05.24 | wols_ | spx2 then why do you ask in #ubuntu? |
| 11:05.59 | spx2 | wols_: how is it of your concern where I ask ? |
| 11:06.31 | wols_ | spx2: yes. ew only support debian. and I doubt you run debian |
| 11:06.43 | wols_ | spx2: note that #ubuntu only supports ubuntu and not debian |
| 11:06.45 | wols_ | so either or |
| 11:07.17 | spx2 | wols_: again,it is not your concern where I ask,I already stated I use debian |
| 11:07.40 | wols_ | dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 11:07.40 | dpkg | ii libc6 | tail -1 2.5-13.3 wols_'s private porn collection |
| 11:07.49 | wols_ | what does this say for you? |
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| 11:10.47 | vaq | Hello I just made a DRBD setup and now the to nodes are syncing however they are only running at speed 240K/sec but they are both on the same gbit LAN, why is it running so slow? |
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| 11:13.08 | tarzeau | is it normal that swfdec-mozilla crackles and hangs often on youtube.com? |
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| 11:14.33 | vampirefrob | heh |
| 11:14.34 | vampirefrob | it worked |
| 11:14.44 | vampirefrob | I copied the kernel, initrd and modules from the parted disk |
| 11:14.55 | vampirefrob | but now I'll have to search for a network driver |
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| 11:15.26 | vampirefrob | to configure teh interwebz |
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| 11:20.55 | Drezard | first login to Debian, how can i access the root account? it wont let me login on the main screen and the ONLY other account isnt in the sudo'ers list |
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| 11:21.09 | datacrusher | hi folks! |
| 11:21.21 | petemc | Drezard: su |
| 11:22.26 | datacrusher | iv installed a nice debian etch server, wich will be my file server. Some stations that iv created the user can access it quite nice, but some (that are pretty far) even with the user created dont got access. I created the user again, some worked... I need a tool to check locally, if the station got access, without going fisically there, any clues? |
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| 11:22.47 | petemc | datacrusher: access how? |
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| 11:25.33 | pogay | does a "apt-get install mysql-server (" (Installed: 4.0.24-10sarge2 Candidate: 5.0.51a-12) make an update to a version 5x? And is this the way to update? |
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| 11:26.00 | wols_ | pogay: yes |
| 11:26.09 | wols_ | etch has no mysql4 anymore |
| 11:26.10 | pogay | wols_: thanks |
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| 11:31.11 | kim0 | Hey guys, I am tasked with rebuilding a number of pkgs with different compile time options .. currently I have tens of bash scripts, but we want to do this the clean way (some build system, with build time dependencies and such). I have no idea what I should be using for that ? |
| 11:31.32 | kim0 | Any recommendations are highly appreciated ... |
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| 11:33.53 | wols_ | kim0: maybe dpatch or such |
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| 11:34.56 | Tenkawa | is there a method for ignoring packages in an apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 11:35.03 | petemc | !hold |
| 11:35.04 | dpkg | hold is a status flag which tells apt (or aptitude) not to automatically upgrade a package. To hold a package, 'echo pkgname hold|dpkg --set-selections', or 'aptitude hold package', or use = in aptitude's curses interface. You can ignore a hold by using apt-get install foopkg; or by using + in aptitude's curses interface. [Note that this is *NOT* the same as packages which have been "held back" for dependency reasons.] |
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| 11:35.27 | Tenkawa | yea I know about hold but that doesnt seem to work for uninstalled ones that try to get pulled in |
| 11:35.33 | Tenkawa | let me try it again |
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| 11:36.01 | abrotman | you want to put uninstalled packages on hold? |
| 11:36.03 | Tenkawa | ok.. guess it does |
| 11:36.20 | wols_ | Tenkawa: is it qa recommended, suggested dependency or a normal required dependency? |
| 11:36.31 | Tenkawa | abrotman: yeah.. I don't need dbus but it keeps trying to get sucked in |
| 11:36.36 | wols_ | abrotman: he wants to install shit but not get its dependency... |
| 11:36.44 | abrotman | Tenkawa: then something either depends or recommends it |
| 11:36.51 | Tenkawa | putting it on hold did the job |
| 11:36.54 | abrotman | Tenkawa: what is it? |
| 11:37.06 | Tenkawa | abrotman: yeah I know... its on a recommended.. just havent found which one yet |
| 11:37.20 | abrotman | Tenkawa: did you think to read the aptitude man page? |
| 11:37.39 | Tenkawa | I rarely use it.. was getting ready to |
| 11:37.55 | Tenkawa | but thanks all.. |
| 11:38.11 | Tenkawa | now I at least have a method to keep it in check while I read up |
| 11:38.12 | Tenkawa | cheers |
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| 12:00.34 | Legality | should load average be divided by 2 if the cpu is dual core? |
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| 12:01.46 | datacrusher | petemc: to my samba shares |
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| 12:01.54 | Legality | load average anyone? |
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| 12:02.34 | datacrusher | iv used smbclient -L SERVER -u user |
| 12:02.55 | datacrusher | it shows some shares, but isnt enouth for the access test |
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| 12:03.40 | p3u | hi #debian |
| 12:04.18 | p3u | when copying a file on my hdd i have high % of hi (hardware irq) and my cpu is 100% |
| 12:04.23 | p3u | dma is on |
| 12:04.36 | p3u | hdparm -T /dev/hdd |
| 12:04.42 | p3u | Timing cached reads: 82 MB in 2.01 seconds = 40.75 MB/sec |
| 12:04.48 | p3u | this seems really low |
| 12:05.08 | p3u | (i mean this is the cache and 40MB/s is really low !) |
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| 12:05.27 | p3u | i don't really know where to find help |
| 12:06.01 | p3u | so if you've got some links for me where i can find help and find how to have better hdd perf |
| 12:06.06 | p3u | thanks |
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| 12:07.43 | wols_ | p3u: what harddisk controller chip? |
| 12:07.45 | wols_ | and what kernel? |
| 12:07.59 | p3u | 2.6.18-6-486 |
| 12:08.14 | p3u | ALi Corporation M5229 IDE (rev c2) |
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| 12:08.31 | p3u | i have 2 same motherboard |
| 12:08.37 | p3u | and 2 times the same probleme :/ |
| 12:08.44 | p3u | i tried differe,t kernels too |
| 12:08.45 | wols_ | p3u: what cpu is this? |
| 12:09.11 | p3u | model name : Celeron (Mendocino) |
| 12:09.13 | p3u | 533 |
| 12:09.38 | abrotman | isn't that like .. ATA66? |
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| 12:09.59 | p3u | i think so yes motherboard are old |
| 12:10.21 | p3u | but i have other old mobo (ATA66) and have other performance |
| 12:10.33 | wols_ | p3u: lsmod |grep -i ali |
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| 12:11.10 | p3u | do i paste here ? |
| 12:11.10 | vampirefrog | pogay, i'm able to boot now, but no network. |
| 12:11.18 | vampirefrog | p3u, use pastebin |
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| 12:11.52 | p3u | http://pastebin.com/d48d160ac |
| 12:11.55 | brad | is there a better way to clean-up a messy mysql install on debian than 'dpkg -P mysql-server' ? it doesn't seem to remove everything |
| 12:11.59 | vampirefrog | I have two network cards, one uses 8139too and the other skge driver, but how do I use them? |
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| 12:12.30 | petemc | vampirefrog: configre them, bring them up |
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| 12:12.40 | p3u | (for example on an older mobo and older proc : Timing cached reads: 672 MB in 2.01 seconds = 334.38 MB/sec ) |
| 12:12.44 | vampirefrog | petemc, how do I configure them? |
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| 12:13.10 | petemc | vampirefrog: /etc/network/interfaces ; man 5 interfaces |
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| 12:13.39 | vampirefrog | petemc, I'm in windows right now.. can you tell me if I can specify their driver too? or autodetect? |
| 12:13.46 | petemc | should autodetect |
| 12:13.55 | vampirefrog | ok.. |
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| 12:16.53 | FriarLaurence | hi, does anyone use unstable and can play audio cds? |
| 12:17.09 | vampirefrog | petemc, ok, I'll try.thanks. brb |
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| 12:21.48 | FriarLaurence | hi, does anyone use unstable and can play audio cds? |
| 12:23.09 | abrotman | FriarLaurence: you cannot? |
| 12:23.50 | FriarLaurence | no, it stutters a lot |
| 12:24.05 | abrotman | is your system doing other drive/cpu intensive stuff? |
| 12:24.14 | FriarLaurence | no, not at all |
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| 12:24.40 | FriarLaurence | and it worked lately |
| 12:26.23 | FriarLaurence | 1% wait and 30%idle |
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| 12:27.17 | FriarLaurence | abrotman, can you play cds on unstable? |
| 12:27.40 | abrotman | FriarLaurence: i don't use my computer for playing CDs |
| 12:27.56 | abrotman | FriarLaurence: have you tried other players? |
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| 12:28.23 | FriarLaurence | i tried that gnome ripper and rhythmbox. i also tried two different cds. its always the same |
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| 12:28.51 | abrotman | what about something .. CLI ? |
| 12:28.53 | FriarLaurence | do you know which package contains the codec for audio cds? |
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| 12:29.17 | wols_ | FriarLaurence: there is no codec |
| 12:29.28 | FriarLaurence | oh lol damn |
| 12:29.44 | FriarLaurence | i thought there might be a bug in the codec |
| 12:30.14 | FriarLaurence | abrotman, i dont know any cd player for the terminal |
| 12:30.22 | abrotman | !info cdplay unstable |
| 12:30.33 | abrotman | or is it 'cdcd' ? |
| 12:30.55 | abrotman | !info cdcd unstable |
| 12:30.57 | dpkg | cdcd: (command line or console based CD player), section sound, is optional. Version: 0.6.6-8 (sid), Packaged size: 51 kB, Installed size: 148 kB |
| 12:31.04 | abrotman | guesses cdplay was that thing his friend wrote in uni |
| 12:31.04 | FriarLaurence | dankeschön |
| 12:31.43 | tarzeau | FriarLaurence: opencubicplayer can do it too |
| 12:31.48 | abrotman | oh ffs |
| 12:31.52 | abrotman | always pimping your wares |
| 12:32.05 | tarzeau | it has a spectrum analyzer |
| 12:32.12 | FriarLaurence | really? |
| 12:32.20 | tarzeau | yes for textmode, it can also do graphics mode |
| 12:32.29 | FriarLaurence | is it in the debian repositories? |
| 12:32.29 | abrotman | or you could just use cdcd |
| 12:32.31 | tarzeau | and you can do surround, reverb, channelmixing |
| 12:32.35 | tarzeau | FriarLaurence: yes |
| 12:32.42 | abrotman | FriarLaurence: just try cdcd .. |
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| 12:32.56 | tarzeau | yes cdcd is good too |
| 12:32.56 | abrotman | play with tarzeau's toy later |
| 12:32.57 | themill | tarzeau: sounds like the ideal simple tool for testing if something is working ok... |
| 12:33.11 | abrotman | themill: was that sarcasm? |
| 12:33.15 | torrrr | is there a clamav gui package |
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| 12:33.37 | tarzeau | themill: it's older than debian too! |
| 12:33.42 | themill | abrotman: yes, you silly american |
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| 12:36.32 | FriarLaurence | it says: Trying CDDB server http://www.freedb.org:80/cgi-bin/cddb.cgi ; Connection established. ; Retrieving information on a90af20d. ; CDDB query error: cannot parsecdcd> |
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| 12:37.27 | Christoph_vW | what does 'id' in aptitude mean? |
| 12:37.41 | Christoph_vW | (when I do an aptitude search) |
| 12:38.02 | nekostar | i just get a 404 from http://www.freedb.org/cgi-bin/cddb.cgi |
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| 12:38.29 | FriarLaurence | abrotman: how can i make cdcd play my cd? |
| 12:38.34 | nekostar | Christoph_vW i means installed for me |
| 12:38.36 | nekostar | i dont get id's |
| 12:39.02 | nekostar | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:39.05 | nekostar | try man aptitude |
| 12:39.07 | nekostar | ^^ |
| 12:39.18 | Christoph_vW | yeah, I know what 'i' means |
| 12:39.24 | Christoph_vW | but I never saw 'id' before |
| 12:39.28 | nekostar | give me an example then |
| 12:39.34 | abrotman | uh .. cdcd play <device> .. no idea .. |
| 12:39.34 | themill | Christoph_vW: if you have the aptitude-doc package installed, then see file:///usr/share/doc/aptitude/html/en/ch02s02s02.html#figureCurrentFlag |
| 12:40.02 | Christoph_vW | no, not installed |
| 12:40.23 | FriarLaurence | abrotman: it says CDDB query error: cannot parseunknown track or several matching tracks |
| 12:40.40 | abrotman | what device are you using? you didn't mount the CD did you? |
| 12:40.47 | FriarLaurence | no i didnt |
| 12:41.04 | FriarLaurence | its /dev/scd0 |
| 12:41.07 | abrotman | cdcd -d <device> play |
| 12:41.09 | p3u | wols_: sorry to disturb you but no idea about my hdd perf problem ? |
| 12:41.25 | themill | Christoph_vW: you'll find it an enlightening read at some stage then... add it to your reading pile. For the moment, "d - the package will be deleted: it will be removed, but its configuration files will remain on the system." |
| 12:41.39 | Christoph_vW | huh |
| 12:41.44 | nekostar | huh |
| 12:41.49 | nekostar | ive never read that man before lol |
| 12:41.55 | Christoph_vW | it shouldn't be deleted |
| 12:42.02 | nekostar | one point to themill && |
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| 12:42.07 | nekostar | && == ^^ |
| 12:42.11 | wols_ | p3u: the driver you need is loaded. dmesg | grep BM |
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| 12:42.13 | FriarLaurence | abrotman: it says: CDDB query error: cannot parse |
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| 12:43.40 | Christoph_vW | now it change the state to iB |
| 12:43.42 | abrotman | should still play the CD |
| 12:43.53 | themill | Christoph_vW: that's B for Broken. |
| 12:43.54 | FriarLaurence | yes i agree :P |
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| 12:44.00 | p3u | wols_: http://pastebin.com/m7b46176e (thank you for your time) |
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| 12:44.10 | Christoph_vW | themill: how can I restore it? |
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| 12:44.22 | davidisko | hi guys, why the hell is xmms package missing in debian? |
| 12:44.33 | abrotman | davidisko: it's very dead upstream |
| 12:44.43 | abrotman | davidisko: and gtk1 which is no longer in lenny/sid |
| 12:44.43 | Nirkus | hi. is there a way to tell aptitude, not to start freshly installed daemons automatically? |
| 12:44.44 | themill | !xmms |
| 12:44.45 | dpkg | rumour has it, xmms is the old X MultiMedia System media player. It has been removed from Debian (although it is still in etch), see http://packages.qa.debian.org/x/xmms/news/20080302T105714Z.html) For alternatives, look at <xmms2>, <rhythmbox>, <amarok>, exaile, songbird, quod libet ... see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2007/07/msg00026.html for removal reasons |
| 12:44.48 | FriarLaurence | davidisko: because xmms has not been updated for two years. install audacious |
| 12:44.58 | davidisko | FriarLaurence: i don't like it |
| 12:45.07 | abrotman | too bad zinf died .. |
| 12:45.07 | jberg | if i want to put ~/.bin in my $PATH, which file do i put it in? i see .bashrc is for non-login shells (what's the difference?)? |
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| 12:45.42 | FriarLaurence | davidisko: but it's very much like xmms |
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| 12:46.13 | piplos | hi everyone |
| 12:46.34 | piplos | I have a little issue on my VAIO notebook |
| 12:47.11 | themill | Christoph_vW: hit i for install. Or + for try to fix dependencies. Usually... I try not to get broken packages so I don't have to do this very often... |
| 12:47.18 | piplos | i can't change my screen brightness |
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| 12:47.41 | davidisko | FriarLaurence: can't add directory in audacious.. |
| 12:47.48 | davidisko | to playlist.. |
| 12:47.52 | piplos | I have a 8400M GT GPU video card |
| 12:48.00 | piplos | anyone can help me? |
| 12:48.30 | FriarLaurence | davidisko: i can, drop a directory e.g. from nautilus into the playlist |
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| 12:49.00 | davidisko | FriarLaurence: lol... i can't say what i'm thinking now about it |
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| 12:49.16 | abrotman | piplos: isn't there something like 'xbacklight' for controlling some of that in laptops ? |
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| 12:49.34 | vampirefrog | back. I'm in debian now :) |
| 12:49.52 | davidisko | FriarLaurence: oh, embarrassing that's the word.. |
| 12:49.57 | piplos | abrotman, I tried xbacklight but it doesn't work |
| 12:49.58 | FriarLaurence | tarzeau, how do i play a cd with opencp? |
| 12:50.09 | piplos | i tried also smartdimmer |
| 12:50.22 | piplos | but it isn't configured for my video card |
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| 12:52.39 | wols_ | p3u: busmaster DMA is used so it shouldn't hog your CPU |
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| 12:52.57 | wols_ | I think hdparm allows you to check what IDE transfermode is used. PIO would be bad |
| 12:53.33 | p3u | wols_: i agree, but when i copy a file from a drive to another i can see int top "hi" going up to 96% ! |
| 12:53.52 | p3u | wols_: all my hdd are in UDMA 2 (66) |
| 12:54.07 | p3u | that's why i don't undestand :/ |
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| 12:57.10 | ComradeHaz | piplos, not sure if it would matter, but have you got the nvidia drivers installed? |
| 12:57.10 | ComradeHaz | I expect that would help if you don't |
| 12:57.31 | piplos | ComradeHaz, yeah, i have the last nvidia drivers installed... |
| 12:57.47 | ComradeHaz | so using nvidia-glx? |
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| 12:58.42 | ComradeHaz | It's not something I've ever had a problem with so never really had to investigate how it works, so to speak |
| 12:58.53 | FriarLaurence | lol i got a kernel panic playing a cd with ocp. then i used another kernel and now i can play cds with every player... |
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| 12:59.05 | ComradeHaz | :D |
| 12:59.08 | ComradeHaz | what kernel? |
| 12:59.39 | FriarLaurence | the bad one: vmlinuz-2.6.26-1.slh.4-sidux-686 |
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| 12:59.49 | ComradeHaz | o.O |
| 12:59.57 | ComradeHaz | fun :D |
| 12:59.58 | mrAZ | i am trying to install nvidia, can anyone help ? http://pastebin.com/m41a7db92 |
| 12:59.58 | FriarLaurence | and now i am using vmlinuz-2.6.25-11.slh.2-sidux-686 |
| 13:00.08 | piplos | ComradeHaz, yes, i'm using nvidia-glx |
| 13:00.21 | Zambezi | When I start Icedove, it says Thunderbird is running even if I kill X. Any idea what's wrong? |
| 13:00.27 | ComradeHaz | meeeehbe mrAZ |
| 13:01.02 | ComradeHaz | not really got any other ideas piplos, old thing, sorry :S |
| 13:01.39 | abrotman | FriarLaurence: you realize that sidux is not debian? #sidux on irc.oftc.net |
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| 13:01.54 | piplos | ComradeHaz, it's ok, thx ;) |
| 13:02.04 | ComradeHaz | mrAZ: use nvidia-glx :D |
| 13:02.08 | ComradeHaz | recurring theme this :D |
| 13:02.30 | mbroeker | Zambezi, check for a lockfile in your thunderbird directory: find .mozilla -name lock |
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| 13:03.06 | FriarLaurence | abrotman: it is. its debian unstable. only on sidux some packages are automatically held back and it offers another kernel. i didnt know that the problem can be caused by the kernel |
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| 13:03.36 | abrotman | it is not |
| 13:04.10 | ComradeHaz | install nvidia glx then you should be able to do an m-a prepare and then m-a a-i nvidia |
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| 13:04.17 | ComradeHaz | (mrAZ) |
| 13:04.24 | FriarLaurence | abrotman: it is |
| 13:04.44 | abrotman | if it were .. it'd be called Debian .. nto sidux .. don't argue |
| 13:04.55 | ComradeHaz | lol |
| 13:05.08 | FriarLaurence | abrotman: all packages come from the unstable repository |
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| 13:05.26 | abrotman | don't argue |
| 13:05.27 | FriarLaurence | the debian unstable repo |
| 13:05.33 | FriarLaurence | silly american :P |
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| 13:05.44 | abrotman | dumb german? |
| 13:06.33 | ComradeHaz | uh |
| 13:06.38 | mrAZ | i dont have nvidia glx. why it has to be so f*$%#@g confusing all the time ? |
| 13:06.54 | ComradeHaz | abrotman: maybe you should elaborate |
| 13:06.59 | ComradeHaz | :D |
| 13:07.01 | abrotman | not you |
| 13:07.04 | abrotman | he didn't elaborate |
| 13:07.13 | ComradeHaz | for fun mrAZ |
| 13:08.20 | stodan | how can i kill processes if -9 does not work? |
| 13:08.21 | ComradeHaz | mrAZ: nvidia-glx is pretty much all you need for installing nvidia 'drivers' |
| 13:08.22 | ComradeHaz | other than kernel source |
| 13:08.24 | mrAZ | i can imagine spending my time better than digging out where what why when ... just to make one single step in my install |
| 13:08.24 | stodan | they have D status |
| 13:08.38 | ComradeHaz | which you already got from other guide by the looks of things |
| 13:08.44 | ComradeHaz | :D |
| 13:08.46 | p3u | wols_: what do you think if i blacklist alim15x3 and enable ide_generic instead ? (i don't have physical access to this computer) |
| 13:08.52 | ComradeHaz | I know it's painful |
| 13:09.01 | ComradeHaz | I've only been linuxing for a year |
| 13:09.12 | mrAZ | ComradeHaz: E: Package nvidia-glx has no installation candidate |
| 13:09.17 | ComradeHaz | but once these things start to make more sence your learning accelerates |
| 13:09.29 | ComradeHaz | o.O |
| 13:09.38 | abrotman | stodan: you can try to kill the PPID |
| 13:09.41 | ComradeHaz | what have I forgotten :D |
| 13:09.57 | ComradeHaz | I'm on a train on mobile phone internet |
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| 13:10.26 | ComradeHaz | uh, what have you just tried to run? |
| 13:10.31 | ComradeHaz | (the command) |
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| 13:11.05 | ComradeHaz | so you've done 'sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx' |
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| 13:11.22 | ComradeHaz | well |
| 13:11.26 | ComradeHaz | forget sudo |
| 13:11.27 | stodan | abrotman, could you tell more? |
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| 13:11.32 | mrAZ | ComradeHaz: what are you trying ? to show off for girls in the coupe ? |
| 13:11.40 | ComradeHaz | that's a bad habbit of mine |
| 13:11.44 | ComradeHaz | lol |
| 13:11.47 | ComradeHaz | none here |
| 13:12.05 | ComradeHaz | just an old man swearing at windows opposite me :D |
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| 13:12.20 | abrotman | stodan: you can use something like `ps -ef` and look at the PPID .. and try killing that .. though you sohuld look to see what it is before doing that |
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| 13:12.37 | abrotman | !zombie |
| 13:12.37 | dpkg | A zombie process is one which has issued an exit(), but whose parent has not yet issued wait() (or one of its variants) to retrieve the exit code. This usually means the parent process is buggy. You can't kill a zombie, because it's already dead; you have to kill the parent, or just ignore the zombie. |
| 13:12.51 | liable | BRAINS! |
| 13:13.02 | ComradeHaz | Not here. |
| 13:13.03 | stodan | ahh, parent pid? |
| 13:13.16 | stodan | i will reboot... PPID is 1 |
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| 13:13.24 | ComradeHaz | I 'a'n't got none of 'em :D |
| 13:13.31 | jim_p | anyone experiencing kernel panics in virtualbox with 2.6.26 kernel as guest? I have lenny as host and sid as guest and i cant get into sid! |
| 13:13.52 | jim_p | virtualbox-non-ose |
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| 13:15.13 | Yggdr4sil | how do i do this ? watch -n .5 iwconfig ath0 | grep Link |
| 13:15.22 | Yggdr4sil | works fine until i throw the grep on it. |
| 13:15.43 | abrotman | wtf |
| 13:15.57 | Yggdr4sil | looks around |
| 13:16.03 | stew | Yggdr4sil: you need quoates around everything after .5 |
| 13:16.04 | yosql | Yggdr4sil: try a subshell |
| 13:16.10 | stew | quotes* |
| 13:16.19 | yosql | try putting it in a script |
| 13:16.30 | Yggdr4sil | ahh |
| 13:16.33 | vampirefrog | what does the linux-patch-debian-* package do? do I have to install it if I installed linux-source-* ? |
| 13:16.34 | Yggdr4sil | thanks |
| 13:16.37 | yosql | quotes too |
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| 13:16.39 | abrotman | stodan: if you read 'man ps' it will tell you what that D means, along with other status letters |
| 13:16.54 | abrotman | stodan: but the D implies it is waiting for IO time |
| 13:16.56 | stodan | abrotman, i know |
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| 13:17.12 | stew | vampirefrog: no, the linux-source-* is already patched |
| 13:17.22 | vampirefrog | stew: oh, ok. thanks :) |
| 13:17.28 | vampirefrog | then what's the point of the patch package? |
| 13:17.48 | abrotman | to patch vanilla sources? |
| 13:17.54 | stew | vampirefrog: its just the patch, no source, you could apply the patch to patch other sources |
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| 13:18.00 | vampirefrog | plain va***lla |
| 13:18.07 | vampirefrog | ok, makes sense |
| 13:18.08 | vampirefrog | :) |
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| 13:20.32 | vampirefrog | so if I compile the default linux-source-*, it will give me the same kernel as installing linux-image-* ? |
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| 13:23.25 | abrotman | vampirefrog: if you use the same options .. it should |
| 13:23.27 | stew | vampirefrog: if you use the same config |
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| 13:24.16 | vampirefrog | ok |
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| 13:24.27 | vampirefrog | i just ran make gconfig and changed a few things |
| 13:24.46 | abrotman | oh .. that'll fail :) |
| 13:24.52 | vampirefrog | why |
| 13:24.59 | stew | vampirefrog: then no, it will not be much like the linux-image from debian |
| 13:25.05 | vampirefrog | hm |
| 13:25.11 | abrotman | vampirefrog: what did you change, and why? |
| 13:25.14 | vampirefrog | i just want marvell support built-in |
| 13:25.30 | vampirefrog | because it doesn't seem to load it, even though the module is in initrd |
| 13:25.36 | vampirefrog | and i don't know how to force it |
| 13:25.51 | ComradeHaz | mrAZ: how'ya getting on? |
| 13:25.51 | vampirefrog | i tried scsi6=pata_marvell |
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| 13:26.00 | vampirefrog | tried sda=pata_marvell |
| 13:26.03 | vampirefrog | hda=pata_marvell |
| 13:26.05 | vampirefrog | kernel options |
| 13:26.14 | vampirefrog | but they didn't seem to work |
| 13:26.20 | vampirefrog | the gparted kernel loads pata_marvell just fine |
| 13:26.28 | vampirefrog | but the default debian kernels don't |
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| 13:26.41 | vampirefrog | so I'll just make it built-in and hope it works |
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| 13:38.05 | dudeman | hey |
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| 13:42.37 | moepman | i removed a configuration file from /etc after i removed the containing package, after reinstallation the file doesnt reappear, where do i get it from? |
| 13:43.04 | dudeman | !confmiss |
| 13:43.04 | dpkg | the reason you have to use dpkg --force-confmiss is because whenever your config files (<conffiles>) are gone, dpkg assumes you deleted them on purpose, and that you want them to stay deleted. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename>; or using aptitude, aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" reinstall <packagename>; |
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| 13:46.17 | dudeman | perl... |
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| 13:52.26 | badcfe | i dont get it with this resolvconf thing. it seems good, but i dont get it. |
| 13:52.29 | justin | you could also just dpkg -i --force-confmiss /var/cache/apt/archives/foo.deb |
| 13:52.56 | justin | badcfe: do you have a reason for using resolveconf? |
| 13:53.03 | badcfe | my question is -- what should i do once ive added my dns-search to /etc/network/interfaces in order for /etc/resolv.conf to be updated? |
| 13:53.12 | badcfe | justin: lenny |
| 13:53.23 | justin | badcfe: ifup |
| 13:53.57 | badcfe | ifup eth0 will paste the searchdomain from /etc/network/interfaces onto /etc/resolv.conf |
| 13:54.05 | justin | should, yeah. |
| 13:54.06 | badcfe | whuh it doesnt seem clear to me |
| 13:54.10 | justin | may have to ifdown, ifup |
| 13:54.17 | badcfe | what does that have with eth0 to do? |
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| 13:54.58 | yosql | badcfe: interfaces will have the dns-nameservers line in it in a particular interface definition |
| 13:55.34 | badcfe | yosql: ok then it makes more sense. BUT its finally going as global searchdomain in /etc/resolv/conf right? |
| 13:55.55 | yosql | you'll have to bring the interface down and then back up, or just write a resolv.conf yourself |
| 13:56.03 | badcfe | to have to put down a physical interface in order to update global dns info seems more than awkward |
| 13:56.26 | shifty | i want to join X.png and Y.png into a single image called xy.png, looking like XY (side-to-side). how can I stitch them up side-to-side from the command line (non lossy) ??? |
| 13:56.29 | badcfe | yosql: well i had a quite nice resolv.conf before resolvconf came into the picture |
| 13:56.32 | yosql | I just said you don't have to :P |
| 13:56.45 | justin | badcfe: so. don't. use. resolveconf. |
| 13:57.11 | yosql | do you have yours backed up? |
| 13:57.40 | badcfe | the syntax coloring in vi is more clever than resolvconf |
| 13:58.05 | badcfe | yosql: no problem, i found it inside some resolvconf directory (the backup) |
| 13:58.08 | yosql | well you're not really understanding the purpose |
| 13:58.18 | badcfe | yosql: your right about that |
| 13:58.21 | themill | badcfe: resolvconf is designed for people who are roaming from network to network, using vpns etc. |
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| 13:59.05 | yosql | normally resolv.conf is overwritten by something like a dhcp client |
| 13:59.33 | badcfe | hmmm maybe i start understanding |
| 14:00.17 | yosql | what resolvconf does is provide a reader which looks at lines in interfaces |
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| 14:00.39 | yosql | one thing that uses that reader is ifup |
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| 14:01.06 | drbair_work | has anyone used lenny + samba 3.2 in an AD integrated environment? Any issues out of the norm? |
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| 14:01.37 | yosql | ifup thatinterface will cause that interface definition in interfaces to be read, causing resolv.conf to be overwritten |
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| 14:03.39 | badcfe | ?pastebin |
| 14:03.46 | badcfe | whats favourite as pastebin here? |
| 14:04.07 | dudeman | !paster |
| 14:04.07 | dpkg | paster is your friendly Debian pastebot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste to have paster paste your results. Ask me about <pastebin> if you want to use another site. |
| 14:04.17 | yosql | if you zoom out, it's a way to specify that when a particular interface is brought up, an arbitrary nameserver and domain search list gets put into resolv.conf |
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| 14:04.41 | yosql | one use: what if you run a dns server on that machine |
| 14:05.01 | Zambezi | When I start Icedove, it says Thunderbird is running even if I kill X. Any idea what's wrong? |
| 14:05.13 | yosql | then you want nameserver 127.0.0.1 |
| 14:05.18 | badcfe | this is puzzling me http://paste.debian.net/16315/ |
| 14:06.20 | badcfe | i get CRAP in my /etc/resolv.conf when i do ifup |
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| 14:08.46 | badcfe | doesnt http://paste.debian.net/16315/ show that ifup on my lenny does damage to my system? |
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| 14:11.59 | Zambezi | This is kind of scary. M$ got Page Down and Page Up patent approved: http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/7415666.html |
| 14:12.35 | badcfe | i found that "rm /etc/resolvconf/run/interface/eth0" fixed my problem |
| 14:12.47 | badcfe | it really seems to me that lenny is the cause, not me |
| 14:12.51 | abrotman | !tell Zambezi about ot |
| 14:13.41 | Zambezi | abrotman: But since it's a function in Iceweasle etc. I consider it realated to Debian. |
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| 14:13.59 | petemc | badcfe: computers generally only do what you tell them to do |
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| 14:14.03 | Q^- | i have installed debian from the internet version image , what i have to do to make a full install now ? |
| 14:14.27 | fireba11 | Q^- : that question makes no sense |
| 14:14.31 | petemc | Q^-: the netinstall should provide you with a full system |
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| 14:15.26 | Zambezi | Q^-: It depends on what you installed. Do you have a DE, then you should be fine for now. |
| 14:15.41 | pogay | Q^-: probably you like to install a desktop. |
| 14:16.10 | TuxCrafter | hello everybody i got some problems does somebody now what to do with a linux server if the dsl connection is PPPOE XS4ALL speedtouch 546i |
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| 14:17.51 | joshteam | hey guys, i have a quick question anyone around? :) |
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| 14:18.23 | stew | joshteam: there are hundreds of people, just ask your question |
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| 14:19.45 | pogay | Zambezi: how is the state of sw patents in europe now? |
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| 14:20.50 | Zambezi | pogay: Skip, skip. Not sure, but USA, is USA. Everything is possible there. |
| 14:21.20 | pogay | Zambezi: I know, it's evil IMO |
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| 14:21.44 | themill | points to #debian-offtopic |
| 14:21.51 | stew | Zambezi: pogay: please take this conversation elsewhere, perhaps #debian-offtopic or #defocus |
| 14:23.18 | Grunt | How dumb. I've spent 3 hours, trying to boot a AMD64 with IA64 netinstall.. |
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| 14:25.26 | stew | yeah, they should put up big warnings on the ia64 downloads saying "you probably want amd64 unless you are positive you have an itanium" |
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| 14:27.20 | petemc | the fact you use amd64 for intel doesnt help either |
| 14:28.38 | chomwitt | hi.(newbie) i cant find a package name format description explaining what the etchX part means? |
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| 14:30.00 | maxb | chomwitt: give the specific example you're wondering about? |
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| 14:31.08 | chomwitt | maxb: alsa-base_1.0.13-5 , alsa-base_1.0.13-5etch1 |
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| 14:32.07 | Dacs | howdy all |
| 14:32.12 | ferra1 | Hi, Can anyone help me with iptables?? |
| 14:32.22 | maxb | well, the last "-" in a version is the separator between version and release parts. That's really as far as standards go |
| 14:32.36 | themill | chomwitt: it means that the package was uploaded directly into etch rather than going through the normal unstable->testing route. That happens for security updates or for bugfixes once etch was frozen. |
| 14:33.05 | Dacs | hi, i need alittle help with networking my debian |
| 14:33.44 | ferra1 | I have a net 192.168.223.0/24 with default gateway 192.168.223.254 to static public ip X.X.X.X, and one ip 192.168.223.200 with direct map to another static public ip Y.Y.Y.Y. My problem is this... one server(192.168.223.201) need to connect to Internet through Y.Y.Y.Y and this is my script to convert 192.168.223.200 in gateway for one server http://dpaste.com/75665/ , but the port 80 is redirected from 192.168.223.201 to 192.168.223.201 the same machine, a |
| 14:33.53 | themill | chomwitt: check the package changelog for more info: aptitude changelog alsa-base or /usr/share/doc/alsa-base/changelog.Debian.gz |
| 14:34.14 | maxb | The use of an NetchN release is, as far as I know, an undocumented but generally accepted convention for what themill says |
| 14:34.21 | chomwitt | themill: so the number is stable's point release related? |
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| 14:35.45 | Dacs | i was able to use ssh fine, then i came with this whole idea of using to NAT routers, the setup now is External_NAT 10.202.46.X and for Inretnal_NAT 192.168.1.x. everything works except i can't pull an ip on my debian |
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| 14:36.40 | themill | chomwitt: no. the debian revision 5etch1 in this case means that debian revision 5 was already in etch and this is a modification to that called 5etch1 (and the next revision would be called 5etch2 etc). Debian revision 6 was already taken by a different version in lenny/sid so you don't want to confuse things. XetchY is, as maxb said, a loose convention but there is a proposal to make it a little more firm so that it's easier to understand what's |
| 14:36.40 | themill | going on. As always, look at the changelog :) |
| 14:37.03 | Dacs | my debian is connected to the 10.202.46.X network.... i powered dowm my box and back on but still , i don't see it in my DHCP |
| 14:37.16 | petemc | Dacs: where is the dhcp server? |
| 14:38.08 | stew | chomwitt: usually packages are uploaded to unstable. this is a more rare case where the package was uploaded directly to etch to fix a problem in etch |
| 14:38.10 | Dacs | petemc: the one on the router, and i know that its working because i just hooked my lappy and its working fine |
| 14:38.33 | Dacs | and i am on the 192.168.1.x network |
| 14:38.37 | chomwitt | thanks very much themill and maxb . |
| 14:39.50 | petemc | Dacs: i dont really understand your network topology, tho i will say dhcp wont work across different subnets |
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| 14:39.59 | Dacs | my debian box is dumb...just to let u know |
| 14:40.09 | themill | chomwitt: no worries |
| 14:40.16 | petemc | Dacs: define dumb |
| 14:40.31 | Dacs | petemc: no screen , keyboard, mouse |
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| 14:40.58 | Dacs | petemc: I agree with you, but each network has its own DHCP |
| 14:41.18 | petemc | Dacs: how do you know what the debian box is doing~? |
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| 14:41.34 | Dacs | petemc: what you mean? |
| 14:41.44 | petemc | Dacs: how do you know its broadcasting for an address? |
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| 14:42.21 | Dacs | petemc: i was able to by looking at my DHCP table on the old router |
| 14:42.47 | petemc | Dacs: im not sure thats a very accurate way to determine whether a box is asking for an ip now |
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| 14:44.26 | Dacs | petemc: thats how i was doing it ,and it was working, please forgive my ignorance :( |
| 14:45.25 | petemc | Dacs: probably best to stick a keyboard and monitor in there to see whats going on |
| 14:46.09 | Dacs | petemc: will do, how can i know if its probing for an ip |
| 14:46.21 | petemc | it will say in syslog |
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| 14:46.44 | petemc | and dmesg can tell if the link is up or not |
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| 14:47.58 | mrAZ | have very successful day ! "m-a a-i nvidia" failed again, but i have a log this time ! |
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| 14:50.34 | DustyDingo | hi, i try to sync lots of data with unison |
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| 14:51.07 | DustyDingo | the problem is, when i abort the syncronisation, i can't continue later on |
| 14:52.00 | LjL | my Epson RX500 USB scanner used to work (on testing), but doesn't anymore, and i've lost track of which changes may have occurred. sane-find-scanner lists it, scanimage -L does not. it used to need the epkowa driver, although i think recently it worked with the epson driver, too. i'm thinking the disappearance of any usb device from /dev/usb (only "lp0" is left), and the appearance of /dev/usbdev* instead, might perhaps be related. |
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| 14:52.33 | DustyDingo | i have to restart the entire syncronisation, any idears, how i can continue? |
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| 14:53.10 | mrAZ | some nvidia experts still around ? http://paste.debian.net/16318/ can you see what is going on there ? |
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| 14:54.18 | pogay | DustyDingo: I guess that you can restart syncing, half of it is already identical. |
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| 14:54.50 | DustyDingo | pogay: and how? |
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| 14:55.15 | wols_ | mrAZ: what kernel and what nvidia drivers? |
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| 14:56.41 | pogay | I did only small sync of my home director, DustyDingo. What happens when you start syncing from the beginning? |
| 14:56.46 | DustyDingo | yes i got 90% of the data already, but unison hasn't marked these files as syncronized, so it is going to load them again |
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| 14:57.01 | Dacs | petemc: dmesg state that it is still looking for its old address in net 192.168.1.X. |
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| 14:58.46 | pogay | DustyDingo: you don't think a sync of identical data is fast? So far I can't say. |
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| 14:59.01 | mrAZ | wols_: 2.6.26-rt1, testing, nvidia with 3d accel. i try to do it the way dpkg says. |
| 14:59.28 | wols_ | WHICH nvidia? |
| 14:59.40 | DustyDingo | pogay: i guess you haven't understood the problem,... |
| 14:59.56 | wols_ | DustyDingo: doesn't unison use rsync? |
| 15:00.07 | mrAZ | wols_: any that works |
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| 15:00.23 | DustyDingo | there was never an successfull syncronisation of this data |
| 15:00.25 | pogay | DustyDingo: you have just got a list off the differences, and sync is'r yet done at all? |
| 15:00.29 | DustyDingo | wols_: i think so |
| 15:01.02 | pogay | as far as I know unision uses the same libs as rsync, but nut rsync itself |
| 15:01.05 | wols_ | mrAZ: I asked YOU what YOU used |
| 15:01.24 | wols_ | DustyDingo: rsync would see "that shit already exists, no need to resync that" |
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| 15:01.52 | DustyDingo | wols_: i know |
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| 15:02.06 | mrAZ | wols_: as i read in /m dpkg nvidia_lenny_1 and nvidia_lenny_2 |
| 15:02.38 | solars | hey, I want to install rmagick, the problem is I don't want to upgrade to ruby1.8.7, but apt wants to install it, can anyone tell me how to install it for 1.8.6? |
| 15:02.47 | pogay | DustyDingo: if you only sync in one way, rsync might be better. |
| 15:02.50 | DustyDingo | but as i explained before, unison works a little bit different |
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| 15:03.14 | wols_ | mrAZ: since you are unable to answer a simple question, help yourself. good day |
| 15:03.18 | DustyDingo | pogay: if i wouldn't need something like unison i wouldn't use it,... |
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| 15:04.17 | pogay | DustyDingo: sorry, for having interfered, i think I can't help in this problem. |
| 15:04.25 | mrAZ | wols_: you dont seem to know about it. thx anyway. |
| 15:05.01 | themill | Is nvidia in lenny still that borked that you need to backport it from sid? |
| 15:05.09 | wols_ | themill: yes |
| 15:05.14 | themill | ffs :( |
| 15:05.37 | wols_ | themill: "when will lenny be ready?" "when they put in nvidia drivers" :P |
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| 15:05.55 | mark_s | hey, I am a teacher and the school decided to put ms on the computers in our LAN. At least I can install Debian on them in a virtual environment. I don't have too much erxperience. It should be not to dificult to configure, USB access and maybe possible to configure the network interface. Now I don't know if VM Ware or Virtual Box is the better choice. Can you help? |
| 15:06.21 | wols_ | mrAZ: I'd use virtualbox from virtualbox.org |
| 15:06.25 | wols_ | mark_s: ^^ |
| 15:06.32 | themill | wols_: well I can't see debian holding back a release for a non-free driver, but I wouldn't want to be the one who makes that call... |
| 15:06.42 | wols_ | mark_s: but think LONG and HARD if you really want to do that |
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| 15:06.56 | mrAZ | wols_: i rather use my head ;) |
| 15:07.02 | mark_s | wols_: why? |
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| 15:07.12 | wols_ | mark_s: what are the advantages for you? |
| 15:07.58 | mark_s | wols_: to show the kids (10 to 16 years) that there is someting else besides Microsoft. |
| 15:08.26 | wols_ | mark_s: how much RAM on those machines? |
| 15:08.42 | mark_s | wols_: if we do it we eill use 1 GB |
| 15:08.50 | mark_s | eill=will |
| 15:08.57 | wols_ | ok, with 512MB for the VM it is usable |
| 15:09.19 | wols_ | but for your work, a live cd might be good too. that's something they can even take with them home :) |
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| 15:10.00 | mark_s | wols_: that is true, but it takes ages until it is up. And you cannot continue the next time |
| 15:10.08 | markun | I'm not sure if this is the right place to look, but maybe someone can point me in the right direction |
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| 15:11.13 | markun | I installed debian on my ibook G4, and when I enable "adaptive tehcnologies" I just get an empty screen after loging in |
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| 15:11.41 | markun | I see no message in 'dmesg' or /var/log/Xorg.log |
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| 15:12.19 | markun | does anyone know where I should start looking? |
| 15:13.13 | Octalot | mark_s: there's a debian-edu project aimed at schools: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu |
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| 15:13.42 | wols_ | !ppc |
| 15:13.43 | dpkg | ppc is probably is short for <powerpc>, and powerpc is the superior architecture. You worship it, and wish you were running on it. Check out http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/ or visit #debianppc |
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| 15:14.00 | wols_ | markun: they know more about PPC macs |
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| 15:16.38 | markun | wols_: thanks man |
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| 15:17.31 | mark_s | Octalot: I know, but I have to install it in a VM. I know virtual box a little but I don't know VM ware. I need USB support and if possible "easy" configuration of the nic. |
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| 15:19.19 | xerophyte | i have server trashing the memory and not able to run any commands.. how can forcely free some memory the kernel is using it. |
| 15:19.32 | ross` | anyone need a remote shell? its debian! if your interested in aquiring one PM me |
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| 15:19.50 | wols_ | ross`: don't do this here. we don't like spammers |
| 15:20.24 | Dacs | can someone help me please |
| 15:20.29 | Dacs | http://pastebin.ca/1192587 |
| 15:20.46 | wintix | Dacs: don't just paste a pastebin url. ask a quastion. |
| 15:20.49 | wintix | *question |
| 15:21.14 | Dacs | wintix: i have already did if you scroll up a little bit :) |
| 15:21.26 | Dacs | wintix: thanks for your $.2 thu |
| 15:21.36 | Dacs | will keep in mind for next time |
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| 15:22.08 | wintix | Dacs: there is nothing from you in my /lastlog |
| 15:23.27 | Dacs | search again |
| 15:23.59 | dudeman | ahh boy |
| 15:24.16 | Dacs | anyways here is my question :i was able to use ssh fine, then i came with this whole idea of using to NAT routers, the setup now is External_NAT 10.202.46.X and for Inretnal_NAT 192.168.1.x. everything works except i can't pull an ip on my debian |
| 15:24.34 | wols_ | Dacs: does eth0 exist? and why allow-hotplug and auto both? |
| 15:25.47 | Dacs | wols_: hey man, eth0 does exist, i was just using it this morning |
| 15:26.13 | wols_ | have you checked it RIGHT NOW if it exists? |
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| 15:26.49 | wols_ | Dacs: iwconfig -a |
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| 15:27.52 | Dacs | wols_: i never used iwconfig , i was able to use it with ifconfig ...but you are the man i will do what you want me too. you have helped me alot before and you were never wrong so....1 sec |
| 15:28.11 | n3kl | Can rsync finish half completed files? |
| 15:28.19 | Dacs | salute wols_ |
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| 15:28.33 | wols_ | Dacs: don't flatter, do what I asked instead |
| 15:28.41 | n3kl | haha |
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| 15:33.58 | Dacs | wols_: iwconfig -a return no such device |
| 15:34.26 | Dacs | ifconfig -a return eth0 , eth1 , lo, site0 |
| 15:34.29 | wols_ | Dacs: then there are no network interfaces. does ifconfig -a do the same? |
| 15:34.55 | wols_ | use "iwconfig" only then |
| 15:35.14 | wols_ | Dacs: and next time tell me ALL that it spits out, not just parts. ALL ALL ALL of it |
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| 15:36.07 | nekostar | sup wols_ |
| 15:36.31 | wols_ | a dirty ceiling |
| 15:36.35 | nekostar | hey |
| 15:36.39 | nekostar | you on efnet btw? |
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| 15:36.54 | Dacs | wols_: i have to move from my desk go to my box and type it then come back to tell you |
| 15:37.03 | nekostar | wols_: you on efnet btw? |
| 15:37.09 | wols_ | nekostar: do I look that daft? do you have a debian question? |
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| 15:37.28 | Dacs | wols_: iwconfig did show that eth0 is wireless and it showed my ssid and key |
| 15:37.33 | nekostar | ~_~ |
| 15:37.34 | apt | STOP DOING THAT! |
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| 15:37.54 | wols_ | Dacs: then check logs to see why it's not connecting properly |
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| 15:38.05 | SpeCon | hello can somebody tell me how to rename a file in debian ? cause i get this here sarah@pluto:~/web/fotos$ rename bureau1.JPG 1.JPG |
| 15:38.05 | SpeCon | Bareword "bureau1" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at (eval 1) line 1. |
| 15:38.05 | SpeCon | Bareword "JPG" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at (eval 1) line 1. |
| 15:38.07 | markun | wols_: they couldn't help me so far unforunately |
| 15:38.33 | wols_ | markun: the chances are much highere there for help than here for your problem |
| 15:38.35 | SpeCon | rename is the rename command ? |
| 15:38.51 | petemc | SpeCon: you probably want mv |
| 15:38.55 | stew | SpeCon: use 'mv' to just change the name of a single file. the rename script is useful for changing the names of many files at once using regular expressions (or some other small perl snippet) |
| 15:39.00 | SpeCon | mv => move file |
| 15:39.04 | Dacs | wols_: i don't know how to check it/check for. for some reason it is still looking for 192.168.1.101 and i want it to look for something on 10.202.46.x |
| 15:39.12 | SpeCon | okay i try mv then tnx |
| 15:39.25 | wols_ | Dacs: gnome network manager maybe? |
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| 15:40.11 | Dacs | wols_: not using it |
| 15:40.15 | wols_ | Dacs: how does it look for 192.x.x.x? |
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| 15:40.25 | starscalling | !rules |
| 15:40.25 | dpkg | rules is, like, 1) Don't ask to ask. Just state your problem, 2) Don't repeat until 15 mins after, 3) Read and re-read the docs first, then admit it if you REALLY don't understand. You're wasting your time and ours if you haven't at least tried. 4) If your problem ain't solved, come back in 12 hrs or 24 hrs later. We're very international. 5) Be polite and patient. |
| 15:40.39 | nekostar | lol |
| 15:40.42 | Dacs | wols_: when "/etc/init.d/networing restart |
| 15:40.43 | nekostar | wols_ guess i pass |
| 15:40.44 | nekostar | :D |
| 15:40.53 | wols_ | Dacs: doesn't answer the question. how? |
| 15:40.54 | markun | wols_: I'm trying in #gnome now, maybe they know something |
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| 15:43.39 | Dacs | wols_: when i try to restart networking i see DHCPRELASE eth0 192.168.1.1 , unreachable <----192.168.1.1 is the old router |
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| 15:44.27 | wols_ | Dacs: shut down all interfaces, check for any running dhcp software (and kill it) |
| 15:44.31 | wols_ | the ifup eth0 |
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| 15:45.20 | Dacs | wols_: how do i check for a running dhcp please |
| 15:45.23 | wintix | looks like it is using an old lease after not getting a new one and is trying to release that lease when restarting the network. |
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| 15:46.01 | wols_ | Dacs: "ps aux |grep dhcl" |
| 15:46.05 | Dacs | wintix: i did shut eth0 and even reboot the whole box |
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| 15:46.07 | MrBobBarker | hey guys, I just moved over to the 2.6.26 kernel on lenny but I'm unable to install the official NVIDIA drivers because it's unable to modprobe "nvidia.ko" |
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| 15:46.13 | MrBobBarker | does the new 2.6.26 kernel not come with nvidia.ko? |
| 15:46.22 | wols_ | MrBobBarker: we do not support nvidia.com drivers. |
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| 15:46.28 | n3kl | where is vim syntax highlighting information stored? |
| 15:46.31 | MrBobBarker | wols_: this is not an nvidia driver issue |
| 15:46.37 | wols_ | MrBobBarker: it is |
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| 15:46.41 | MrBobBarker | this is a stock kernel issue no coming with the usually included nvidia.ko |
| 15:46.43 | MrBobBarker | not nv.ko |
| 15:46.51 | MrBobBarker | thats the official one, nvidia.ko is the xorg driver |
| 15:46.56 | MrBobBarker | which is usually packaged with kernels |
| 15:47.02 | wols_ | MrBobBarker: no debian kernel ever came with nvidia.ko |
| 15:47.04 | MrBobBarker | as it was for 2.6.18 |
| 15:47.11 | MrBobBarker | then how is it installed exactly? |
| 15:47.23 | wols_ | !tell MrBobBarker about nvidia_lenny |
| 15:47.49 | MrBobBarker | again, I know exactly the issue, this is not some random question asking |
| 15:47.55 | pumpkin0 | how can i disable cores totaly from a system? i tried taskset but the cores heating up are the same, no matter what i pass into taskset. |
| 15:47.55 | MrBobBarker | im asking where to get nvidia.ko for 2.6.26 |
| 15:49.02 | stew | MrBobBarker: dpkg should have told you: /msg dpkg nvidia_lenny |
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| 15:49.20 | MrBobBarker | stew: it just told me it's broken and that I shouldn't bother and I should go fuck myself |
| 15:49.32 | MrBobBarker | it's really quite useful |
| 15:49.34 | stew | MrBobBarker: it also told you to /msg dpkg nvidia_lenny_1 |
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| 15:50.18 | stew | MrBobBarker: i don't see anything about "go fuck yourself" either |
| 15:50.33 | wols_ | stew: but I propose to add it just for him |
| 15:50.34 | Octalot | n3kl: /usr/share/vim/vimcurrent/syntax/ |
| 15:50.40 | wols_ | so appropriate |
| 15:51.09 | n3kl | Octalot: thanks, I was poking around in there and found /usr/share/vim/vim70/syntax also |
| 15:51.40 | MrBobBarker | btw, the correct answer would have been "run it the installer with the syntax flags "-k $(uname -r)" in order to deal with the installer freaking out about the gcc/kernel version" |
| 15:51.51 | MrBobBarker | you may want to add that to your bot |
| 15:51.56 | Octalot | vimcurrent seems to be a link to the appropriate version (I still have leftovers from 6.4 as well as 7.2) |
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| 15:52.09 | MrBobBarker | as it's a lot more useful then the, it's broken, don't bother, go fuck yourself. |
| 15:52.13 | n3kl | Octalot: ah, you're right |
| 15:52.17 | stew | MrBobBarker: no, we'd not recommend running the installer from nvidia at all |
| 15:52.19 | MrBobBarker | minus the go fuck yourself part ;) |
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| 15:52.26 | stew | MrBobBarker: where are you seeing "go fuck yourself"? |
| 15:52.35 | MrBobBarker | stew: you're kidding me right? have the tried to install the driver through the repos? it's horrid |
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| 15:52.46 | MrBobBarker | stew: sorry, someone's on my network editing meh packets |
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| 15:53.02 | stew | MrBobBarker: what? |
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| 15:53.24 | MrBobBarker | stew: it's a joke, I'm saying someones editing dpkg messages to include the go fuck yourself portion ;) |
| 15:53.34 | Dacs | wols_: "ps aux|grep dhc1" return nothing, and when i did ifup eth0 i got DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 to port 67 interval 4 ,12 |
| 15:53.43 | MrBobBarker | anyways, thanks for all the help, btw that syntax flag did truly work so someone may want to stick it in some knowledge base or whatever |
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| 15:53.50 | dudeman | hey |
| 15:54.00 | dudeman | whats a good cron timer to set for updatedb ? |
| 15:54.02 | MrBobBarker | that would be ./NVIDIA-blahversion -k $(uname -r) |
| 15:54.06 | dudeman | like every 1 hour? |
| 15:54.06 | stew | MrBobBarker: using the nvidia installer will cause problems for you later when you try to upgrade debian pacakges |
| 15:54.13 | stew | MrBobBarker: so we recommend not running it |
| 15:54.17 | wols_ | Dacs: that dhcpdiscover command is good and if it continues it means "no dhcp server found". also check your logs |
| 15:54.21 | MrBobBarker | stew: it's never been an issue for me, I just have to recompile to each kernel upgrade but that's all |
| 15:54.55 | MrBobBarker | plus I get faster version support, etc |
| 15:55.01 | Dacs | wols_: i am have a hard time to know which log to look for |
| 15:55.03 | Octalot | Each (X, mesa, the linux kernel) update. Maybe it's not so bad on stable. |
| 15:55.05 | MrBobBarker | anyways, have fun guys :) |
| 15:55.09 | wols_ | Dacs: syslog and kernel log |
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| 15:55.27 | Dacs | wols_: in /var/ |
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| 15:59.45 | cheetahw26 | i have x installed, but i dont want to boot it up automatically |
| 15:59.54 | cheetahw26 | how can i set debian to boot into text only.. |
| 16:00.12 | themill | !nodm |
| 16:00.12 | dpkg | Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the dm package(s) with "apt-get remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm pdm". "update-rc.d -f xdm remove" and friends will also disable the dm until a package update is installed and the runlevel symlinks are restored.. NEWSFLASH! echo "false" >/etc/X11/default-display-manager, or a temporary solution is to hit ctl-alt-fN to get to a console |
| 16:00.28 | Viperfang | Im having problems installing a machine from a PXE booted debian installer. It cant find the files it needs on the local mirror, but it can on any remote mirrors... any idea what im missing? here is my apt-mirror config file: http://pastebin.com/m7efc767d |
| 16:01.34 | Viperfang | I was working on this yesterday aswell... Its driving me INSANE! |
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| 16:01.56 | cheetahw26 | sweet ... thanks |
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| 16:10.35 | Dacs | wols_: i just found my flash drive i will paste syslog please help me |
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| 16:11.26 | Buck | hello #debian |
| 16:11.26 | n3kl | Dacs: no need to attack wols_ , just ask the room |
| 16:11.30 | Viperfang | Anyone? Please? |
| 16:11.35 | n3kl | !greet buck |
| 16:11.35 | dpkg | Hello, buck |
| 16:11.38 | Buck | I hear the current Debian gcc is buggy |
| 16:11.41 | Viperfang | hello Buck |
| 16:11.42 | Buck | is it possible to downgrade somehow? |
| 16:11.47 | spq | i have a problem with my server, i want to share a directory with nfs - what do i have to do? (nfs user server) |
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| 16:12.10 | n3kl | spq: have you googled? |
| 16:12.14 | Dacs | n3kl: he was helping me ...but ok what ever you say |
| 16:12.38 | themill | Buck: current as in which debian release and who says so and for what purpose? |
| 16:12.42 | n3kl | Dacs: make your paste homes |
| 16:12.56 | Dacs | n3kl: :) |
| 16:13.03 | spq | n3kl, i have shared with nfs before (/etc/exports contains my exports - should be fine) but it just doesnt work :/ |
| 16:13.12 | spq | apries:/var/log# showmount -e localhost |
| 16:13.12 | spq | Export list for localhost: |
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| 16:13.35 | n3kl | spq: read your logs, restarted the service, what have you done, symptoms, anything more than doesn't work is usually better |
| 16:13.54 | spq | /srv/fai/nfsroot * |
| 16:13.57 | n3kl | spq: try exportfs -ra |
| 16:14.07 | Buck | themill: the ispircd guys.. apparently it compiles fine everywhere cept on debian, and they claim it's the debian's gcc that's buggy. The last version of inspircd in the repos is several years old, too.. I'm just stuck flying from one place to another with it now :( |
| 16:14.13 | n3kl | spq: is that your exports file? |
| 16:14.19 | nekostar | !worksform3 |
| 16:14.19 | spq | failed, reason given by server: Permission denied |
| 16:14.21 | nekostar | !worksforme |
| 16:14.31 | nekostar | hm could have sworn there was one for that.. |
| 16:14.39 | n3kl | spq: shouldn't it be /srv/fai/nfsroot *(rw) or something? |
| 16:14.43 | spq | n3kl, no - its the output of the showmount -e localhost command |
| 16:14.54 | n3kl | spq: ah , ok |
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| 16:15.23 | n3kl | spq: so from a remote machine, do mount server:/srv/fai/nfsroot /mnt/bla |
| 16:15.37 | themill | Buck: what's the package? |
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| 16:15.47 | themill | Buck: ahh.. nm |
| 16:15.48 | shyam_k | hi, anybody experienced problems like a usb-phone which has to be mounted as a usb storage media, being mounted multiple times showing 5-6 icons on screen? |
| 16:15.54 | Buck | k |
| 16:16.00 | shyam_k | in debian etc |
| 16:16.02 | shyam_k | etch |
| 16:16.38 | shyam_k | s/usb-phone/mobile phone/ |
| 16:16.57 | nekostar | n3kl first |
| 16:16.57 | shyam_k | s/screen/desktop/.. |
| 16:17.05 | nekostar | i recommend sshfs for mounting things... |
| 16:17.11 | spq | n3kl, http://rafb.net/p/Oqp1s299.html |
| 16:17.15 | nekostar | secondly mount -o [-o == options] |
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| 16:18.03 | themill | Buck: The latest version from their website was only released a couple of days ago and the version before that is in debian. |
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| 16:18.38 | Buck | ugh |
| 16:18.47 | Buck | so.. does that mean there will probably be another in the repos soon? |
| 16:18.56 | n3kl | nekostar: he asked for nfs, and also, why does he need to pass options |
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| 16:18.58 | Buck | I mean, themill* |
| 16:19.04 | nekostar | <n3kl> spq: shouldn't it be /srv/fai/nfsroot *(rw) or something? |
| 16:19.11 | nekostar | just that bit n3kl |
| 16:19.31 | nekostar | that's all i was responding to.. i still prefer sshfs over nfs, but we use nfs greatly at work |
| 16:19.41 | nekostar | -o still for extra options in mounting |
| 16:19.44 | nekostar | ^^ |
| 16:20.16 | themill | Buck: Their latest version will not make it into lenny, it's too late for that. You have a couple of options -- backport 1.1.20 from lenny/sid for etch or package up your own 1.1.21 using the existing debian packaging as a starting point. |
| 16:20.59 | Buck | I can't really package it, if I can't compile it |
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| 16:21.04 | Buck | but I'll try backporting, thanks th |
| 16:21.09 | Buck | themill* |
| 16:21.27 | themill | Buck: can you pastebin the compile errors you're getting? |
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| 16:22.25 | themill | Buck: I'll take it as being a coding snafu over a gcc bug any day when $upstream claims that it's a gcc bug... (unless $upstream is the kernel or glibc as they're the only ones who really find compiler bugs) |
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| 16:22.34 | n3kl | spq: try restarting the nfs-kernel-server and the nfs-common |
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| 16:23.39 | Buck | themill: it compiles without error, but it gets missing pointers to the instance within a few seconds after starting up.. according to the devs this only happens on debian, and only on some, and that they said the current version of gcc is the problem maker - that's all I really know =\ |
| 16:24.09 | themill | Buck: etch or lenny/sid? |
| 16:24.37 | spq | n3kl, no luck :( |
| 16:24.38 | Buck | etch |
| 16:24.42 | Buck | themill: etch |
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| 16:25.05 | Buck | themill: specifically, gcc (GCC) 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-21) |
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| 16:26.50 | n3kl | spq: do you have anything in /etc/hosts.deny or /etc/hosts.allow? |
| 16:26.57 | themill | Buck: You could try using gcc-3.4 to get an older version of gcc and see if that helps. Hopefully their make setup can cope with setting the version of gcc to use easily... |
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| 16:27.14 | spq | n3kl, no |
| 16:27.15 | n3kl | spq: also, are you trying to mount this over the internet? |
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| 16:27.36 | spq | n3kl well what do you mean with over the internet... |
| 16:27.55 | spq | both machines have public ips |
| 16:27.56 | stew | themill: gcc is becoming increasingly buggier, where 'buggy' refers to its increasing demand for actual legal c code |
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| 16:28.07 | spq | but there is no router between them |
| 16:28.28 | themill | stew: yes... that's what I mean about it not being a gcc bug :) |
| 16:28.45 | Buck | okay, themill, thanks. I'll look into the backport first, but if there isn't one I'll try gcc 3.4 |
| 16:29.06 | n3kl | spq: other than it not working, I would follow the other dudes advice and use sshfs, which is really half assed, or build a tunnel using openvpn |
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| 16:29.37 | themill | Buck: there's no backport at present, but it shouldn't be too hard to do as its dependencies are minimal |
| 16:30.01 | Buck | yeah, it compiles with almost nothing |
| 16:30.03 | n3kl | spq: also is there any other information for errors and such in /var/log/syslog or anything? |
| 16:30.11 | spq | n3kl no way - i need it for booting a diskless machine |
| 16:31.19 | spq | Sep 3 18:23:40 apries nfsd[13481]: Unknown keyword "no_subtree_check" in export |
| 16:31.19 | spq | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:31.27 | spq | thats the only thing i see... |
| 16:31.57 | n3kl | spq: well, fix that, but that should not keep it from mounting |
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| 16:32.29 | spq | doesnt help |
| 16:32.55 | rcbarnes | is the bts down? |
| 16:33.16 | Dacs | n3kl: wols_ here is my syslog http://pastebin.ca/1192627 |
| 16:33.16 | n3kl | spq: so boot the machine diskless, I don't understand why a tunnel would prevent that, but also are these machines plugged into the same switch or something? |
| 16:33.55 | n3kl | Dacs: what am I looking for? |
| 16:33.57 | spq | n3kl yes same switch |
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| 16:34.25 | spq | n3kl well the kernel only has support for nfs as remote filesystem... |
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| 16:34.45 | hedgehoginfog | does http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers work for you??? |
| 16:34.45 | n3kl | spq: oh, right |
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| 16:35.00 | Dacs | n3kl: i want to know why i can't get ip from DHCP |
| 16:35.26 | n3kl | Dacs: probably cause there is not a dhcp server on your network |
| 16:35.34 | n3kl | Dacs: set it static and try to get access to the network |
| 16:35.44 | n3kl | spq, are you using kernel-server or user-server? |
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| 16:36.12 | Dacs | n3kl: i do have DHCP, becasue another pc is pick up from it |
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| 16:36.36 | spq | n3kl, user |
| 16:36.38 | n3kl | Dacs: ok, so like I said, try to set it static and see if you can even ping that dhcp server from the machine that is having the trouble |
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| 16:36.55 | Dacs | n3kl: ok |
| 16:36.57 | n3kl | spq: any reason? I think that might be causing the issue |
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| 16:37.16 | n3kl | Dacs: if you can ping it then you have other issues. May want to read the logs on the dhcp server or something |
| 16:37.22 | zxd | having trouble installing using deboostrap |
| 16:37.22 | spq | n3kl i dont want to install a new kernel |
| 16:37.36 | zxd | I: Extracting zlib1g... |
| 16:37.36 | zxd | W: Failure trying to run: chroot /mnt mount -t proc proc /proc |
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| 16:37.44 | zxd | it says it extracted a bunch of stuff |
| 16:37.49 | zxd | but the dir is almost empty |
| 16:37.52 | n3kl | spq: no, on the server man. You don't need a new kernel to use the nfs-kernel-server package |
| 16:37.53 | Dacs | n3kl: thank you that is very helpful |
| 16:37.55 | zxd | only etc and dev and var |
| 16:38.20 | spq | n3kl sure i do - when the kernel hasnt the nfs kernel server built in... |
| 16:38.56 | zxd | help |
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| 16:40.41 | chris_hat_irc | hello, since 4 days my mailserver (etch with exim) has problems with mail sending. Every email is sended about 5-8 times |
| 16:40.59 | chris_hat_irc | he has been runnin since half a year without any problems |
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| 16:42.27 | n3kl | spq: you compiled your own kernl? |
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| 16:42.47 | spq | sure |
| 16:42.59 | ol_schoola | morning folks |
| 16:43.27 | chris_hat_irc | it seems like the smtp process of sending email has problems and does not terminate successfully |
| 16:43.28 | ol_schoola | running a KuroBoxPro (arm9 Buffalo Linkstation Pro appliance) |
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| 16:43.46 | n3kl | spq: well, you can paste your config, but there is really no reason to compile your own kernel in debian, unless I am missing something about your situation. |
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| 16:44.02 | ol_schoola | it has debian etch and UDEV should have been held back during an apt-get upgrade but slipped thru |
| 16:44.06 | spq | n3kl... |
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| 16:44.25 | spq | i have monolythic kernels and specialized for the hardware in the machines... |
| 16:44.27 | ol_schoola | it is installed but not running due to a requirement of higher kernel which i am not prepared to do |
| 16:44.39 | ol_schoola | how can a package be rolled back in debian? |
| 16:44.51 | n3kl | spq: where did you get the kernel source? |
| 16:45.10 | spq | kernel.org? ^^ |
| 16:45.21 | spq | n3kl - i have no problems with my kernels! |
| 16:45.33 | spq | i just have a problem with the nfs user server! |
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| 16:46.05 | n3kl | spq: well, I am at the end of my road then |
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| 16:47.18 | chris_hat_irc | is there a known problem of exim and clamav sending emails more than once? |
| 16:47.25 | ol_schoola | just looking to rollback the udev pkg, possibly from cache like redhats rpm allows? |
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| 16:47.56 | stew | ol_schoola: what version of udev do you have installed now? |
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| 16:48.15 | stew | ol_schoola: and what does "uname -r" say? |
| 16:48.23 | ol_schoola | 1.05-4 i (latest etch i believe?) |
| 16:48.24 | Dacs | when i config my eth0 with static ip and restart networking and try to ping router i get destination host unreachable |
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| 16:48.44 | ol_schoola | new to debian/dpkg, my apologies |
| 16:48.48 | n3kl | Dacs: just do it manually, use ifconfig and router |
| 16:49.00 | stew | ol_schoola: so you are just now upgrading to etch? from what? sarge? |
| 16:49.05 | maxb | It seems a bit unwise to be running an older kernel than ships with the distribution |
| 16:49.08 | Dacs | n3kl: what do you mean |
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| 16:50.07 | ol_schoola | no, the manual debian install from the Kurobox site starts with an early etch image pared down for the Kurobox |
| 16:50.17 | n3kl | Dacs: ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.10 netmask 255.255.255.0 |
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| 16:50.28 | n3kl | Dacs: or whatever your network is |
| 16:50.29 | ol_schoola | subsequent apt-get upgrades always require udev to be held because of the kernel dep |
| 16:50.49 | ol_schoola | somehow, udev got unpinned, opr more likely, i didn't make it permanent |
| 16:51.00 | maligor | what kernel dep? |
| 16:51.15 | ol_schoola | currently at 2.12.6-arm1 kernel |
| 16:51.35 | maligor | wrong way around them numbers, heh |
| 16:51.37 | stew | ol_schoola: oh, you should be asking in a channel specific to your distribution then |
| 16:51.44 | simonrvn | eew. can't you just cp the config and make one? |
| 16:52.12 | maligor | ol_schoola, you'll probably be able to upgrade when 2.6.27 if you like |
| 16:52.14 | ol_schoola | the latest udev wants a 2.16.x kernel which i'm not able to jump to yet (need to build a serial TTL convertor for the serial header to gain EM access |
| 16:52.35 | maligor | err.. comes out |
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| 16:52.48 | ol_schoola | stew: the #kbox channel is, ermmmm, a ghost town |
| 16:52.50 | giovine | Hello everybody |
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| 16:52.57 | maligor | there's #linkstationwiki also |
| 16:52.58 | stew | ol_schoola: try a mailing list then |
| 16:53.01 | giovine | I'm installed debian lenny on my laptop |
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| 16:53.14 | maxi5324_ | hi |
| 16:53.16 | maxi5324_ | http://www.pennergame.de/change_please/3294461/ |
| 16:53.19 | giovine | but I have some problems to configure synaptics |
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| 16:53.22 | maligor | and #nas-central I guess |
| 16:53.35 | simonrvn | thank you stew |
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| 16:53.57 | giovine | I've looked for a GUI to configure synaptics (like ksynaptics o qsynaptics) but it's is no more present in the repository |
| 16:53.57 | ol_schoola | malignor: didn't know about linkstationwiki, thx |
| 16:54.14 | giovine | How Can I confiure it? |
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| 16:54.52 | ol_schoola | maligor: #lswiki looks great, thx |
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| 16:54.58 | simonrvn | with an editor? ;) |
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| 16:55.24 | ol_schoola | maligor: i take that back, that channel is for devs |
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| 16:55.35 | StephanTV | hi guys |
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| 16:55.41 | bkleef | Hi all, I got two nics. Eth0 (192.168.1.12) and eth1 (10.0.0.12) Can I set the same hostname to both interfaces in /etc/hosts? |
| 16:55.43 | thomas | hi gays |
| 16:55.44 | thomas | aeh huys |
| 16:55.46 | thomas | -h+g |
| 16:55.56 | ol_schoola | <sigh> guess i'll need to use the forums then |
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| 16:56.06 | maligor | ol_schoola, how do you figure that? |
| 16:56.08 | thomas | bkleef: why not? |
| 16:56.15 | thomas | oh |
| 16:56.15 | maligor | ol_schoola, it does have a lot of the developers tho |
| 16:56.16 | thomas | no |
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| 16:56.17 | thomas | sorry |
| 16:56.25 | bkleef | thomas? |
| 16:56.25 | wols_ | bkleef: no. would be very pointless too |
| 16:56.29 | ol_schoola | -ChanServ- [#linkstationwiki] This is a developer channel. Please direct support requests to the forum. |
| 16:57.24 | maligor | oh, it does say it, never noticed |
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| 16:57.25 | bkleef | wols_, no I use drbd (network raid1) and I want to get all the traffice over eth1 and not over eth0 because performance |
| 16:57.37 | jim_p | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:57.44 | Dacs | n3kl: that dog don't hunt |
| 16:58.01 | Dacs | still getting destination unreachable |
| 16:58.13 | n3kl | Dacs: do ifconfig and tell me if you interface is up |
| 16:58.38 | Dacs | i am 99% its not a hardware, because it was working this morning in a different network |
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| 16:59.22 | n3kl | Dacs: I am not arguing that, but you have to make sure the interfaceis up |
| 17:00.15 | themill | Is http://bugs.debian.org responsive? (And is this a new thing or an on-going problem?) |
| 17:00.27 | abrotman | down |
| 17:00.33 | stew | themill: its new, and aparantely being worked on |
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| 17:00.44 | simonrvn | i got connection refused when i updated earlier (like ~20 min ago) |
| 17:00.47 | themill | ok, thanks stew, abrotman |
| 17:00.50 | rjent_ | Is there an easy way to install the vmware server on sid? |
| 17:00.57 | stew | themill: the machine pings, but has 25 and 80 closed |
| 17:01.10 | simonrvn | (apt-listbugs) |
| 17:01.13 | rjent_ | I tried to download and install and the installer complains at /tmp/vmware-config5/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:146: error: unknown field ‘nopage’ specified in initializer |
| 17:01.17 | stew | no submission queue == no more release critical bugs! |
| 17:01.22 | themill | :) |
| 17:01.35 | simonrvn | stew: ha |
| 17:01.39 | Dacs | nk3kl: eth0 is up |
| 17:01.42 | stew | i only noticed when i was actually submitting a Serious bug :) |
| 17:01.43 | abrotman | wait .. but no way to close bugs! |
| 17:01.44 | themill | stew: I remember don saying that they were having trouble handling the volume of spam... |
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| 17:01.50 | stew | abrotman: dak closes them |
| 17:01.54 | abrotman | stew: was it a serious bug about bugs.d.o being down? |
| 17:02.00 | simonrvn | rjent_: #vmware |
| 17:02.02 | abrotman | stew: how can dak close if it can't communicate? |
| 17:02.25 | stew | abrotman: i would assume that dak doen't do it via email |
| 17:02.42 | abrotman | but you close bugs by sending mail to bugs.debian.org .. right? |
| 17:02.53 | rjent_ | simonrvn: thx :) |
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| 17:02.55 | abrotman | stew: DAY GAME! |
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| 17:02.58 | abrotman | hides |
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| 17:03.08 | stew | abrotman: i do, but dak doesn't (when closing bugs due to new uploads with (Closes #123445) in the changelog |
| 17:03.14 | abrotman | ah ok |
| 17:03.17 | simonrvn | !offtopicsmite abrotman |
| 17:03.39 | stew | abrotman: she's got no time for that today |
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| 17:04.12 | Dacs | abrotman: can you help me please |
| 17:04.23 | Dacs | ^^ networking |
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| 17:05.57 | Dacs | this is not making any sense to me |
| 17:06.00 | Dacs | it should work |
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| 17:14.20 | abrotman | stew: there's always time! |
| 17:14.27 | abrotman | Dacs: what did you break! |
| 17:15.06 | Dacs | abrotman: i don't break! computers break me :) |
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| 17:15.23 | simonrvn | abrotman: sit around for 3 hr and watch 2 groups of men run around 4 bases, trying to hit a ball? |
| 17:15.46 | simonrvn | i'd rather watch lacrosse ;p |
| 17:15.47 | abrotman | simonrvn: you forgot the beer! |
| 17:15.58 | Seb | and the hotdogs |
| 17:16.05 | polter | can I list packages in a specific category using apt-get or apt-cache in the terminal? |
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| 17:16.16 | abrotman | polter: there is debtags |
| 17:16.23 | polter | abrotman: debtags? |
| 17:16.27 | stew | polter: what exactly do you mean by category? |
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| 17:16.34 | abrotman | polter: for instance .. debtags search admin::backup |
| 17:16.36 | simonrvn | !info debtags |
| 17:16.48 | polter | stew: like I can do in synaptic.. list all packages in "games" |
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| 17:16.56 | dpkg | debtags: (Enables support for package tags), section admin, is optional. Version: 1.7.7 (sid), Packaged size: 649 kB, Installed size: 952 kB |
| 17:17.13 | stew | polter: aptitude search '~sgames' |
| 17:17.15 | Dacs | abrotman: I was able to use ssh fine untill this morning, I came with this whole idea of using two NAT routers, the setup now is: External_NAT 10.202.46.X and for Internal_NAT 192.168.1.x. everything works except i can't pull an ip on my debian |
| 17:18.16 | abrotman | and the dhcp is on the 192.x.x.x network ? |
| 17:18.18 | polter | stew: I've been using apt-get, and I've heard that it's not wise to mix them up |
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| 17:18.28 | Dacs | abrotman: NO! |
| 17:18.28 | abrotman | polter: that's just a search .. no harm |
| 17:18.34 | abrotman | Dacs: easy .. down boy |
| 17:18.49 | polter | abrotman: ok cool |
| 17:18.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | is there something more secure one can use these days instead of NFS or is nfs-over-ssh the only (cumbersome) way? |
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| 17:19.09 | Dacs | abrotman: if:) |
| 17:19.14 | abrotman | polter: or you can try the debtags searching |
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| 17:19.44 | Dacs | abrotman: i tried static Ip and still not working |
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| 17:20.18 | abrotman | polter: for example .. 'debtags search games::puzzle' |
| 17:20.29 | abrotman | Dacs: what is not working? your routing? |
| 17:20.43 | manu_hack | BTS is down? |
| 17:20.45 | abrotman | yes |
| 17:20.51 | abrotman | Dacs: route -n .. does that help you? |
| 17:21.07 | polter | abrotman: I'm reading the man page of debtags right now |
| 17:21.12 | polter | seems to do what I need |
| 17:21.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | on the other hand - samba is not really more secure than nfs, I think |
| 17:21.25 | Dacs | abrotman: my box is not getting an IP from networ 10.202.46.x |
| 17:21.50 | abrotman | i thought it was static |
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| 17:22.25 | Dacs | abrotman: right now it is , but i would like it to be on a dhcp |
| 17:22.34 | Dacs | or what ever static is fine |
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| 17:22.46 | abrotman | but static doesn't work |
| 17:23.08 | Dacs | nope i am not able to ping the router 10.202.46.1 |
| 17:23.22 | abrotman | and you double checked your route and netmask ? |
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| 17:24.00 | Dacs | abrotman: walk me thru it please |
| 17:24.06 | Dacs | i might have missed something |
| 17:24.08 | abrotman | uh .. route -n .. ifconfig -a ? |
| 17:24.37 | Dacs | not route -n i did ifconfig -a |
| 17:24.43 | Dacs | this is wireless |
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| 17:24.51 | abrotman | and? |
| 17:25.04 | _moro_bana_ | what is the difference between vpnc and kvpnc? |
| 17:25.25 | n3kl | _moro_bana_: one is for kde and one is not? |
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| 17:26.49 | _moro_bana_ | n3kl: i use kvpnc on gnome because i hade failed to configure vpnc before. |
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| 17:28.00 | n3kl | _moro_bana_: ok |
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| 17:29.21 | _moro_bana_ | n3kl: please walk me through it, it says enter ipsec address. |
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| 17:29.42 | _moro_bana_ | n3kl: ipsec gateway address* |
| 17:30.11 | Dacs | abrotman: dest:10.202.46.0 -gateway:0.0.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 flag U |
| 17:30.20 | derobert_work | Anyone know what's up (down) with bugs.debian.org? Or is it just down for me? |
| 17:31.09 | simonrvn | it's down.. |
| 17:31.15 | Dacs | abrotman: dest:0.0.0.0 -gateway:10.202.46.1 netmask 0.0.0.0 flag UG |
| 17:31.19 | simonrvn | someone want to update the /topic? |
| 17:32.03 | Dacs | abrotman: this is my syslog http://pastebin.ca/1192627 |
| 17:32.54 | simonrvn | abrotman, stew? /topic update to point people at the fact that bugd.d.o is down? |
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| 17:33.57 | spq | okay so does anyone know how to set up a nfs server without the kernel server compiled into the kernel? |
| 17:34.32 | maligor | spq, use unfs3 |
| 17:34.35 | simonrvn | i never build nfsd module into the kernel |
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| 17:34.51 | simonrvn | modular ftw |
| 17:34.57 | maligor | or nfs-user-server? |
| 17:35.01 | abrotman | it'll be back! |
| 17:35.49 | derobert_work | abrotman: I hope so! bugs.d.o being down permanently would be quite unfortunate |
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| 17:35.55 | spq | maligor, i have nfs-user-server installed |
| 17:37.08 | spq | maligor, but it simply doesnt work... |
| 17:37.25 | spq | http://rafb.net/p/Oqp1s299.html |
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| 17:38.27 | maligor | spq, clearly it's misconfigured at some point, but I've never used it |
| 17:39.43 | spq | maligor, sure - if it wouldnt be misconfigured, it would either work or can not work at all - and it doesnt work and i hope it can work :) |
| 17:39.53 | Dacs | abrotman: let me know what to do else |
| 17:39.53 | spq | but the question is where the problem could be... |
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| 17:42.31 | abrotman | Dacs: you have no gateway |
| 17:42.42 | abrotman | oh wait .. misread |
| 17:43.08 | abrotman | Dacs: is your 10.x a /24 or something larger? |
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| 17:44.21 | Blazeix | Does anyone know how I can remotely detect if a Lenny system is detecting a PS/2 keyboard? |
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| 17:46.07 | blip- | hi, i'm having trouble with a simply apt-get command. I have a string of more that 50 packages to install. but some of those packages are not on the server so i want it to automatically skip those packages. i did "sudo apt-get -m install package1 package 2 etc..." .... but the whole process terminates after package1 is not found ? How can i make it skip past this ? Thanks |
| 17:46.24 | blip- | i've followed the format in the apt-get manpage. |
| 17:46.28 | blip- | or so i think |
| 17:46.35 | themill | blip-: try aptitude, it will try to proceed |
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| 17:47.28 | blip- | themill: hmm i'm not familiar with aptitude. is it safe to use that ? (im on ubuntu 8.04 btw, they advised me to ask here) |
| 17:47.34 | Rayy | hi, i heard u were using a new shell in lenny |
| 17:48.06 | themill | blip-: they did, did they? Well they're wrong in that case. If you want help from #debian, then step 0 is install debian. |
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| 17:49.41 | blip- | i see. sorry about that themill. i was under the impression debian invented all the underpinning of ubuntu such as apt-get etc.. |
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| 17:50.05 | abrotman | blip-: but they gave you your apt/aptitude/apt-get .. ask #ubuntu please |
| 17:50.31 | p1ngp0ng | allright, i give up. i cant figure out how to get java webstart on debian etch amd64. |
| 17:50.33 | jhamlin | Hey folks, I can't send mail using smtp via kmail. I've quadruple checked all of my settings. What's wrong? |
| 17:50.40 | themill | blip-: mostly it did, but then ubuntu changes them. Is it safe to mix aptitude with apt-get on debian? yes, with some caveats. On ubuntu? I haven't the first clue. Ask them. |
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| 17:51.43 | n3kl | jhamlin: your settings |
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| 17:52.49 | abrotman | jhamlin: error? |
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| 17:55.32 | jhamlin | abrotman: my messages just sit in the outbox |
| 17:55.42 | jair | does anyone know what Version and revision control is? |
| 17:55.51 | abrotman | jair: seriously? |
| 17:55.54 | jair | I have seen that a lot in linux web sites |
| 17:56.11 | jair | abrotman: I have an idea, but never find out or work on it |
| 17:56.22 | jair | I am researching about it |
| 17:56.32 | abrotman | jair: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VCS |
| 17:56.33 | n3kl | jair: google "subversion" or "cvs" |
| 17:56.47 | themill | jair: read the intro sections at http://svnbook.red-bean.com/ |
| 17:56.49 | Sling | or git :> |
| 17:57.03 | jair | Thank you guys |
| 17:57.07 | jhamlin | n3kl: It's not my settings because the exact same settings work perfectly with icedove |
| 17:57.14 | jair | I will take a break and read about it |
| 17:57.18 | simonrvn | bzr, hg, git, svn, cvs, rcs, ... |
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| 17:57.39 | jair | simonrvn: I remmeber that Linus torvals was talking about git |
| 17:57.45 | simonrvn | insert arch and bk in there.. |
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| 17:57.51 | Dacs | abrotman: yes |
| 17:57.52 | jair | simonrvn: Thanks |
| 17:57.55 | jhamlin | Seems like a kmail bug to me... |
| 17:58.05 | jair | thank you abrotman :) |
| 17:58.14 | n3kl | jhamlin: use the detect server settings to help maybe, pluse I am sure that icedove and kmail refer to the same thing with different names |
| 17:58.30 | n3kl | jhamlin: it could be a bug too |
| 17:58.42 | jhamlin | n3kl: no icedove and kmail are completely different programs |
| 17:58.59 | p1ngp0ng | is there a easy way to install java webstart on etch amd64? |
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| 18:00.54 | n3kl | jhamlin: I know |
| 18:01.28 | n3kl | jhamlin: what I am saying, is perhaps you are setting tls in icedove, when really its ssl or something |
| 18:01.51 | themill | jhamlin: there's nothing wrong with kmail's smtp support and it will show you an error message if it doesn't work. Have you actually hit send and not send later or something like that? |
| 18:02.17 | jhamlin | themill: yes I hit send. It doesn't show any popup error message |
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| 18:02.55 | n3kl | I see all these xargs commands, like find . -iname "*shizzle*" | xargs rm -Rf or something, but why is that better than find . -iname "*shizzle*" -exec rm -Rf {} \; ? |
| 18:03.14 | jhamlin | themill: the "sent" messages just sit in my outbox |
| 18:03.15 | stew | p1ngp0ng: the ia32-sun-java5-bin package from non-free |
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| 18:03.29 | Dacs | abrotman: http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd3/ribrahim/NAT_Setup.jpg |
| 18:03.34 | jhamlin | icedove worked the first time I set it up. kmail seems to be broken |
| 18:03.56 | simonrvn | n3kl: less processes spawned, which translates to more efficient (usually) |
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| 18:04.25 | simonrvn | !jelly |
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| 18:04.31 | jelly | !simonrvn |
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| 18:04.31 | dpkg | Old joke. |
| 18:04.34 | ma3x | how do i launch another user/xsession on the same screen? |
| 18:04.38 | jelly | heh |
| 18:04.44 | abrotman | xnest |
| 18:05.01 | jelly | or its younger brother xephyr |
| 18:05.02 | abrotman | Dacs: what's the 'gateway' set to on the debian box? |
| 18:05.10 | n3kl | ma3x: what dm? |
| 18:05.13 | ma3x | kde |
| 18:05.18 | themill | jhamlin: in the smtp/security settings, have you hit "check what the server supports"? |
| 18:05.22 | abrotman | kde is not a dm |
| 18:05.25 | jhamlin | themill: yess |
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| 18:05.34 | jelly | dungeon master? |
| 18:05.35 | n3kl | Dacs: dood, try a different port on the router |
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| 18:05.41 | ma3x | abrotman: sorry, i just removed gdm |
| 18:05.57 | jhamlin | themill: I have it set to ssl which "check what the server supports" says is supported. |
| 18:06.03 | ma3x | there was this option called 'lock session and login as new user' |
| 18:06.07 | simonrvn | and why a *dm would matter for a nested x server is beyond me |
| 18:06.08 | n3kl | maxamillion: ctrl+alt+l -> switch user |
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| 18:06.11 | ma3x | do you know what that does in the background as command? |
| 18:06.15 | jhamlin | themill: again, the same exact settings work perfectly with icedove |
| 18:06.26 | n3kl | ma3x: ^^ |
| 18:06.31 | Dacs | abrotman: nothing right now, ifconfig eth0 10.202.46.10 netmask 255.255.255.0 <- thats what i used |
| 18:06.39 | simonrvn | icepoop and firepoop |
| 18:06.49 | abrotman | Dacs: route add default gw 10.202.46.1 |
| 18:06.50 | ma3x | n3kl: that only locks the session, i have no switch user option |
| 18:07.00 | simonrvn | Dacs: you brought it up first? you then set the default route? |
| 18:07.14 | n3kl | ma3x: once you lock it, wiggle the mouse and it will ask you to switch user |
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| 18:07.41 | ma3x | n3kl: that option is disabled if you don't have display manager |
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| 18:07.52 | jelly | ma3x: so, install one? |
| 18:07.58 | n3kl | ma3x: so try clicking K then switch user |
| 18:08.00 | themill | jhamlin: sorry... cooking dinner atm so I don't have time to work with you right now... later perhaps |
| 18:08.08 | ma3x | any idea what gdm uses to switch user? 'xnest' or xephyr |
| 18:08.26 | ma3x | jelly: i don't want to have dm |
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| 18:08.52 | ma3x | n3kl: i just explained you twice that that option is gone if you don't have a display manager |
| 18:09.07 | n3kl | ma3x: wonderfull, good fucking luck |
| 18:09.40 | p1ngp0ng | stew: do i just install it and it should work? or do i need a plugin aswell? |
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| 18:11.18 | stew | p1ngp0ng: you don't need a plugin for javaws, that's why its better than trying to use java applets |
| 18:11.31 | soulchild | which kernel should I use 486 or 686 ? I have a Core 2 Duo T7100 ??? |
| 18:11.42 | n3kl | soulchild: 686 |
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| 18:11.59 | stew | soulchild: 686 or amd64 |
| 18:12.00 | p1ngp0ng | stew: well it aint working |
| 18:12.05 | stew | p1ngp0ng: be more specific |
| 18:12.20 | ma3x | how do i use xnest to switch user? |
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| 18:12.33 | p1ngp0ng | im trying to log into a site that requires java. but it still requieres the java addon it tells me |
| 18:12.41 | p1ngp0ng | and i did restart the browser |
| 18:12.49 | n3kl | ma3x: tried 'man xnest" recently |
| 18:13.00 | soulchild | n3kl: thanks |
| 18:13.13 | stew | p1ngp0ng: then you are after a java browser plugin, not java webstart |
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| 18:13.26 | p1ngp0ng | oh, i thought that was it |
| 18:13.27 | p1ngp0ng | heh |
| 18:13.43 | pickcoder | is anyone aware of a serial driver patch for the 2.6 kernel regarding PCI overloading? |
| 18:13.56 | pickcoder | IRQ overloading specifically |
| 18:14.01 | stew | p1ngp0ng: java webstart is for downloading and launching standalone java applications, not for running java applets embedded in web pages |
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| 18:14.40 | jpinx | p1ngp0ng: what website - I recently had to sort out java runtime environment |
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| 18:15.08 | p1ngp0ng | stew: how do i get a java plugin for amd64 then? |
| 18:15.09 | ma3x | n3kl: yes but i can't figure it out |
| 18:15.14 | p1ngp0ng | jpinx: my bank :P |
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| 18:15.36 | n3kl | ma3x: you want a brand new x winodw, right? |
| 18:15.48 | jpinx | p1ngp0ng; let me have the account number and I'll fix it ;) |
| 18:15.50 | stew | p1ngp0ng: not easily. you could try to backport the openjdk packages and the icedtea-gcjwebplugin package from testing/unstable |
| 18:15.56 | stew | p1ngp0ng: or you can install a 32 bit chroot |
| 18:16.01 | magentar | i'm using gnome. the changes i make to qt style engines in qt-config or kcontrol don't seem to have an effect on qt applications. i'm on isd |
| 18:16.01 | p1ngp0ng | jpinx: lol, sure okey |
| 18:16.02 | magentar | sid |
| 18:16.20 | ma3x | n3kl: i want a new kde session and keep the old one running |
| 18:16.24 | p1ngp0ng | stew: whats a 32bit chroot? |
| 18:16.37 | p1ngp0ng | stew: you mean using a 32bit browser? |
| 18:16.55 | jpinx | p1ngp0ng: don't know about your envirnment, but it was not too difficult to make it work with my etchnhalf i686 |
| 18:17.01 | stew | p1ngp0ng: yes, i mean a 32 bit everything installed in a sub-directory of your 64 bit install |
| 18:17.07 | Dacs | abrotman: SIOADDRT: file exists |
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| 18:17.35 | stew | jpinx: yes it is much more simple in i686 since sun provides a browser plugin for i686 |
| 18:17.45 | ma3x | brb |
| 18:18.03 | jpinx | stew: ah ok - just as well for this idiot ;) |
| 18:18.15 | p1ngp0ng | stew: oh well. i think im just gonna install etch i386 |
| 18:18.37 | p1ngp0ng | stew: i really dont get it why they havent made a plugin for amd64 yet |
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| 18:18.57 | p1ngp0ng | might be some good reasons for it but heh |
| 18:19.36 | stew | i'd guess its much less of an issue now that there is an icedtea plugin availalbe |
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| 18:19.46 | ma3x | n3kl: do you know how it works xnest? |
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| 18:20.04 | stew | ma3x: "startx -- :1" will start second x server |
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| 18:20.25 | p1ngp0ng | so, to get the te |
| 18:20.28 | p1ngp0ng | bah |
| 18:20.33 | n3kl | ma3x: well, do start a nested, which xnest is bets suited for, I think you do Xnest :1 -ac or something if I remember |
| 18:20.53 | p1ngp0ng | to get icedtea plugin i just have to add testing to source.list? |
| 18:21.08 | stew | p1ngp0ng: /msg dpkg ssb |
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| 18:21.52 | ma3x | stew: thanks fella |
| 18:21.59 | jelly | is bugs.d.o dead? |
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| 18:22.11 | p1ngp0ng | stew: thanks |
| 18:22.28 | Dacs | abrotman: any other suggestion |
| 18:22.34 | stew | jelly: yes |
| 18:22.41 | abrotman | Dacs: remote the current route and try again ? |
| 18:22.42 | jelly | thanks, stew |
| 18:22.52 | stew | p1ngp0ng: you'd first have to backport openjdk-6, since icedtea build-depends on it |
| 18:22.53 | abrotman | !tell dacs about interfaces |
| 18:22.54 | tdn | !ralink |
| 18:22.55 | dpkg | Ralink makes WLAN chipsets (product list: http://ralink.rapla.net/). They are notable for releasing software interface specs and - more or less buggy - GPL drivers for the RT2500, and do not require a (non-free) firmware. Out-of-tree kernel modules are available in Etch for RT2400, RT2500 and RT2570 (for RT2561, ask about <rt61>). Use <module-assistant> to install (eg. "m-a a-i rt2500"). Also ask about <rt2x00>. RT2800: <rt2800>. |
| 18:22.59 | tdn | !rt73 |
| 18:23.00 | dpkg | The legacy driver for Ralink RT2573/RT2671 (rt73) is at http://www.ralinktech.com.tw/data/RT73_Linux_STA_Drv1.0.4.0.tar.gz. Enhanced legacy driver is at http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/rt73-cvs-daily.tar.gz (the required 'rt73.bin' firmware file is included). Also ask me about <rt2x00>. http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/rt73 |
| 18:23.02 | n3kl | ma3x: can I ask why you are opposed to a dm? |
| 18:23.05 | stew | jelly: bugs.donarmstrong.com is a mirror |
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| 18:23.22 | jelly | stew: can't be arsed to make apt-listbugs look it up :-) |
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| 18:23.57 | stew | jelly: if you were to reconfigure apt-listbugs to use the mirror, it would be back up by the time you had it working again |
| 18:24.01 | ma3x | n3kl: i was using gdm but when i select shutdown or restart it shows some errors glibc or something. and i don't see the shutdown sequence |
| 18:24.01 | stew | jelly: so get on it! |
| 18:24.14 | webPragmatist | any of you guys ever tried to use rdiffweb? |
| 18:24.17 | n3kl | ma3x: ah |
| 18:24.25 | webPragmatist | i'm trying to figure out why there is a debian directory |
| 18:24.29 | webPragmatist | http://svn.berlios.de/wsvn/rdiffweb/trunk/#_trunk_ |
| 18:24.33 | Dacs | abrotman: i did all that |
| 18:24.44 | jelly | stew: I'll just add a fake /etc/hosts entry now, and falsely complain about it later when I forget about the kludge! |
| 18:24.47 | abrotman | then i'd say you did it wrong .. |
| 18:24.49 | n3kl | ma3x: I was just thinking, I had this setup for a while using kdm where there was always two xservers running on tty7 and tty8, worked pretty well |
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| 18:26.10 | Dacs | abrotman: but as soon as i out debian on 192.168.1.x network it will work fine |
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| 18:26.33 | abrotman | Dacs: then you did something wrong .. changing from one static network to another is not hard .. DHCP should be easier |
| 18:27.37 | n3kl | Dacs: may I recomend some googleing or purchasing a book on networking or debian |
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| 18:28.39 | Dacs | n3kl: yeah you are right i should hang my cisco cert in the bath room |
| 18:29.00 | n3kl | Dacs: you are cisco certified? |
| 18:29.18 | Dacs | n3kl: my problem is operating debian not my network |
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| 18:30.06 | n3kl | Dacs: manpages are also very helpfull for learning commands, like "man ifconfig" and man "route" |
| 18:30.37 | pickcoder | ugh.. this is frustrating |
| 18:30.40 | Dacs | n3kl: they are long thu :) |
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| 18:30.50 | n3kl | Dacs: only way to learn is to read |
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| 18:31.41 | Dacs | yep i know that |
| 18:31.44 | n3kl | Dacs: the only reason I say this is because for the last couple hours you have been struggling to get working hardware on the network. Given your network experience, debian should be the onlye issue. Reading the manpages would have saved you time |
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| 18:32.25 | dondelelcaro | Dacs: what exactly is the problem? Your network setup isn't terribly complicated according to the picture, but the details you've given so far are fairly vague. |
| 18:32.58 | n3kl | Dacs: how many subnets do you have on your internal? |
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| 18:37.55 | Dacs | nk3kl255.255.255.0/24 but what does that had to do with my external |
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| 18:38.30 | n3kl | Dacs: that is your netmask twice. How many subnets do you have? |
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| 18:38.47 | jpinx | is it me or is wiki.debian.org not working? |
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| 18:39.02 | dondelelcaro | jpinx: see /topic |
| 18:39.12 | n3kl | Dacs: the error your are getting is because your machine does not have the proper routes to get to the destination. Which makes me think that you are trying to use a gateway for a network that you are not on |
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| 18:39.48 | dondelelcaro | Dacs: that netmask doesn't match up with the dhcp configuration you've listed on the picture |
| 18:39.54 | n3kl | Dacs: or perhaps your network interface is configured but not up |
| 18:40.06 | Dacs | n3kl: it is up |
| 18:40.33 | n3kl | Dacs: ping the ip of the device you are plugged into |
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| 18:41.31 | Dacs | you mean pin eth0 |
| 18:41.42 | Dacs | ping eth0 |
| 18:42.12 | dondelelcaro | Dacs: it'd also be useful for us to see the network configuration of the machine that is unable to connect. Specifically, the ip addr; and ip route; output. |
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| 18:42.18 | n3kl | Dacs: no, I don't have your diagram up any more, from the eth0 into what?, ping the what. |
| 18:42.19 | Dacs | n3kl: i am going to put it back on DHCP |
| 18:42.24 | n3kl | ok |
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| 18:42.48 | n3kl | Dacs: if that device is truly a router and not a switch, it will not pass broadcast and dhcp will not work |
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| 18:43.31 | Dacs | n3kl: it will not pass it to 192.168.1.0 network |
| 18:43.49 | Dacs | but should between my debian and the router |
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| 18:44.06 | _moro_bana_ | my vpnc is asking for a lot of things which are not required if i use kvpnc(like ipsec id and secret_key) i thought kvpnc was a gui for vpnc. |
| 18:44.08 | n3kl | Dacs: can you paste your diagram again please |
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| 18:45.46 | Dacs | n3kl: you are lazier than my self hahahahah |
| 18:45.49 | Dacs | 1 sec |
| 18:45.59 | n3kl | Dacs: false, I cannot scroll |
| 18:46.09 | Dacs | http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd3/ribrahim/NAT_Setup.jpg |
| 18:46.11 | cnolan | hi folks, i'm having trouble building a kernel module under debian lenny... i have installed linux-headers for my current kernel but I get these errors when trying to build the virtualbox guest kernel modules. can anyone tell me what is going on? log file here: http://www.cenolan.com/vboxadd-install.log.txt |
| 18:46.40 | Dacs | n3kl: tell me when you have it up |
| 18:46.44 | n3kl | yeah |
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| 18:47.14 | n3kl | Dacs: where is your dhcp server? |
| 18:47.21 | Dacs | n3kl: so both routers are wireless |
| 18:48.05 | Dacs | n3kl: in the router it self |
| 18:48.08 | n3kl | Dacs: connected by ethernet or a wireless bridge |
| 18:48.09 | n3kl | ? |
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| 18:48.18 | n3kl | Dacs: you have two routers, which is the dhcp? |
| 18:48.51 | Dacs | both has it |
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| 18:49.37 | n3kl | Dacs: and the debian box is wireles to the "external router" |
| 18:49.38 | n3kl | ? |
| 18:49.51 | Dacs | nk3l: yes , sir |
| 18:50.10 | n3kl | Dacs: if you plug a cable from your debian box to your external router, can you get dhcp? |
| 18:51.06 | Dacs | no because it is far "that why i use wireless" :) |
| 18:52.07 | n3kl | Dacs: what type of encryption/authentication are you using for your wireless connection? |
| 18:52.35 | Dacs | n3kl: not the greate but WEP, just for testing |
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| 18:53.15 | Led_Zeppelin | I am curious about gcc. Does it depend on the system's libc or can I just use gcc over the network via NFS? |
| 18:54.21 | n3kl | Dacs: can you please paste your interfaces file? |
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| 18:54.47 | n-iCe | hi |
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| 18:56.14 | Dacs | http://pastebin.ca/1192874 |
| 18:56.15 | unicum | anyone here using tuxload? |
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| 18:59.27 | theholyduck | err.. i just finnished a debian netinstall. reboots, it goes through the normal "decompressing linux... parsing ELF... done." and then booting the kernel. and suddenly NOTHING happens |
| 18:59.34 | theholyduck | it just stands there saying booting kernel.. |
| 19:00.47 | theholyduck | i guess it COULD mean that the kernel doesnt support my chipset? |
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| 19:02.00 | theholyduck | hmm me tries burning out a x64 livecd instead |
| 19:02.11 | wols_ | theholyduck: more like doesn't support your cpur |
| 19:02.15 | wols_ | cpu |
| 19:02.18 | theholyduck | hmm |
| 19:02.22 | wols_ | the installer kernel works fine? |
| 19:02.24 | theholyduck | yeah |
| 19:02.26 | theholyduck | i installed it :P |
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| 19:02.47 | theholyduck | well the installed kernel is a 486 one |
| 19:02.53 | theholyduck | where as i got a amd x64 quadcore :P |
| 19:02.56 | theholyduck | am2+ :P |
| 19:03.09 | theholyduck | go into expert mode and select a 64bit kernel? |
| 19:03.11 | abrotman | etch or lenny? |
| 19:03.13 | theholyduck | lenny |
| 19:03.22 | theholyduck | 2.6.26-1-486 is the installed kernel |
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| 19:03.31 | theholyduck | installed through the daily build netinst |
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| 19:04.53 | theholyduck | i actually need to submit a bugreport for the daily build come to think of it |
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| 19:04.56 | theholyduck | fires up browser |
| 19:05.12 | adama | so I want to get support for m4u audio files on XMMS version 1. I googled and it says there is a plugin. Aptitude wants to install xmm2-plugin-mp4, will that work? I don't want xmms2 |
| 19:05.20 | p1ngp0ng | which package give me the ability to rightclick in terminal in xfce4? so that i can copy paste etc. |
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| 19:05.39 | theholyduck | p1ngp0ng, why not just.... |
| 19:05.44 | theholyduck | go into the terminal preferences |
| 19:05.50 | theholyduck | and rebind the copy and paste shortcuts |
| 19:05.51 | theholyduck | :P |
| 19:05.58 | theholyduck | and any other shortcuts you might use :P |
| 19:06.08 | theholyduck | though ctrl+c is allready used :P |
| 19:06.11 | p1ngp0ng | becuase i cant even do that |
| 19:06.18 | theholyduck | why not? |
| 19:06.20 | theholyduck | i did that :P |
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| 19:06.37 | p1ngp0ng | tell me how you got into the terminal preferences then :P |
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| 19:06.46 | theholyduck | using the bar for it? |
| 19:06.53 | theholyduck | well actually i dont copy paste with keyboards at all |
| 19:06.57 | theholyduck | i use the good old ways :P |
| 19:07.02 | theholyduck | select text you wanna copy |
| 19:07.04 | Dacs | n3kl: so what u think homes |
| 19:07.13 | theholyduck | then middle mouse or left + right mouse on where you wanna paste it |
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| 19:07.34 | Armored_Azrael | Hey, how do I install the 32-bit edition of a shared library on a 64-bit system? |
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| 19:11.12 | rswarbrick | Hi, does anyone know whether en-gb hyphenation for openoffice.org is still packaged for debian? I think it used to be contrib for sarge (!) and is still mentioned in Lenny's http://packages.debian.org/lenny/openoffice.org-l10n-en-gb. |
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| 19:11.41 | rswarbrick | (or indeed whether it's still maintained upstream - I haven't checked) |
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| 19:12.34 | *** topic/#debian by stew -> 4.0r4a released /msg dpkg etch | /msg dpkg etch->lenny | PUBLIC KEY NOT AVAILABLE? /msg dpkg no public key | FAQ: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianIRC | NO FLOOD: USE #flood or /msg dpkg paster | /msg bots NOT people |
| 19:12.49 | stew | diff: bugs.d.o/wiki.d.o is back up, 4.0r4 -> 4.0r4a |
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| 19:13.02 | jelly | already?! |
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| 19:13.31 | jelly | and who's the diff person. |
| 19:13.51 | stew | he's a tool |
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| 19:14.41 | Deepa|Away | I run lenny, amd64. I have installed apache2 and apache2-suexec, but suexec doesn't want to work |
| 19:14.54 | Deepa|Away | Error log says: [Wed Sep 03 21:14:13 2008] [notice] suEXEC mechanism enabled (wrapper: /usr/lib/apache2/suexec) |
| 19:15.13 | Dacs | why is it that my box keep remembering /cache my old ip even after a shut down |
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| 19:15.23 | Deepa|Away | Yet all scripts are run as www-data, regardless of owner |
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| 19:18.04 | stew | Deepa|Away: check /usr/share/doc/apache2-suexec if you haven't already |
| 19:18.18 | bkw | Does the debian php5 packages come with libintl support compiled? |
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| 19:18.51 | Deepa|Away | stew, changelog, news or copyright? |
| 19:19.09 | theholyduck | ok /me tries installing the 686-bigmen kernel through chroot |
| 19:19.42 | stew | Deepa|Away: i guess none, i was assuming there would be a README.Debian, also see the package description about apache2-suexec-custom |
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| 19:20.05 | Deepa|Away | I also tried apache2-suexec-custom, did not work for me either |
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| 19:20.53 | Dacs | stew: would you help me |
| 19:20.54 | stew | Deepa|Away: have you tired "a2enmod suexec" or "dpkg-reconfigure apache2-suexec" or "dpkg-reconfigure apache2.2-common" or "dpkg-reconfigure apache2"? |
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| 19:21.26 | \amethyst | Deepa|Away: when you say 'regardless of owner'... are these all under /var/www, or do userdir scripts run as www-data too? |
| 19:21.26 | Deepa|Away | I have already enabled suexec, and it loads suEXEC just fine according to logs |
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| 19:21.38 | stew | Dacs: i believe that your box remembers your dhcp ip so that it can try to request the same ip again so your ip can remain the same if the ip is still available |
| 19:21.38 | Deepa|Away | \amethyst, userdir scripts run as www-data too |
| 19:21.56 | theholyduck | hmm |
| 19:21.59 | theholyduck | worked better this time |
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| 19:22.10 | theholyduck | now i get thruogh the basic things and int starts |
| 19:22.16 | theholyduck | untill i get a kernel panic P: |
| 19:22.19 | theholyduck | *init |
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| 19:22.21 | Dacs | stew: but i change the whole network and still can't get it released |
| 19:22.27 | theholyduck | but atleast its LOADING the kernel :P |
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| 19:22.42 | stew | Dacs: what do you mean by "get it released" |
| 19:22.45 | \amethyst | Deepa|Away: and your userdirs are in the standard place? |
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| 19:23.13 | Dacs | stew: release the ip and get a new one from DHCP |
| 19:23.14 | Deepa|Away | I have a script at /home/deepy/public_html/whoami.php which reveals scripts running as www-data |
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| 19:23.40 | Deepa|Away | I have a copy of that script at /var/www/whoami.php and /home/mantis/public_html/whoami.php, all give the same result: www-data |
| 19:24.08 | stew | Dacs: if you want your machine to get a specific IP address, that should be configurable from your dhcp server |
| 19:24.18 | Deepa|Away | I think the userdirs are in the standard place |
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| 19:24.59 | \amethyst | Deepa|Away: yeah, ~/public_html is the standard place |
| 19:25.18 | Dacs | stew: then why when i put my laptop wirelessly on the same dhcp it will get an ip and able to browse the net |
| 19:25.50 | stew | Dacs: you are asking me why your wireless / dhcp setup is actually working? |
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| 19:25.51 | Dacs | the same dhcp that i am trying to put debian on |
| 19:25.53 | \amethyst | Deepa|Away: and those are copies, not symlinks? |
| 19:26.14 | Deepa|Away | Not even copies, I made them manually one after one while pulling my hair out |
| 19:26.31 | Dacs | stew: no |
| 19:26.33 | stew | Dacs: what is the actual problem you are trying to solve? |
| 19:26.54 | \amethyst | Deepa|Away: the weird thing is, if there were some kind of problem, suExec should be refusing to run the script it all |
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| 19:27.12 | Deepa|Away | It's as if SuExec doesn't even try |
| 19:27.15 | Dacs | stew: you will be the forth person i tell since this morning |
| 19:27.19 | Dacs | :) |
| 19:27.25 | \amethyst | Deepa|Away: you are using mod_userdir for your user directories, right? |
| 19:27.44 | Deepa|Away | userdir |
| 19:27.45 | Deepa|Away | Yeah |
| 19:27.57 | Deepa|Away | magician:/home/deepy# a2dismod |
| 19:27.57 | Deepa|Away | Your choices are: alias auth_basic authn_file authz_default authz_groupfile authz_host authz_user autoindex cgi dir env mime negotiation php5 rewrite setenvif status suexec userdir usertrack |
| 19:28.47 | Dacs | stew: http://s220.photobucket.com/albums/dd3/ribrahim/?action=view¤t=NAT_Setup.jpg |
| 19:28.55 | Dacs | ^^ take a look please |
| 19:28.56 | \amethyst | Deepa|Away: and those users have IDs greater than 100, right? |
| 19:29.17 | Deepa|Away | They're all above 1000 even |
| 19:29.54 | \amethyst | OH |
| 19:29.54 | \amethyst | these are PHP not CGI |
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| 19:30.32 | Deepa|Away | nods |
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| 19:31.05 | \amethyst | Deepa|Away: you probably have to run your PHP scripts with php-cgi then |
| 19:31.12 | \amethyst | Deepa|Away: rather than mod_php |
| 19:31.28 | Deepa|Away | php-cgi being a apache module? |
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| 19:32.50 | \amethyst | Deepa|Away: php5-cgi is the debian package; I think you set it up in apache by disabling mod_php5 and doing AddHandler cgi-script .php |
| 19:33.57 | Deepa|Away | AddHandler php-cgi .php? |
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| 19:35.19 | \amethyst | Deepa|Away: I'm not familiar with that handler |
| 19:35.36 | Deepa|Away | AddHandler cgi-script .php gave me a |
| 19:35.38 | Deepa|Away | You don't have permission to access /~deepy/whoami.php on this server. |
| 19:35.39 | Deepa|Away | xD |
| 19:35.54 | Deepa|Away | and no PHP scripts work now |
| 19:35.58 | \amethyst | oh |
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| 19:36.17 | \amethyst | Deepa|Away: maybe scripts are disabled there? |
| 19:36.35 | \amethyst | Deepa|Away: also, you need #! /usr/bin/php5-cgi as the shbang, and maybe the executable bit |
| 19:36.47 | Deepa|Away | shbang? |
| 19:36.59 | \amethyst | Deepa|Away: the first line of a script, starting with #! |
| 19:37.10 | \amethyst | Deepa|Away: maybe mod-suphp would be less invasive? |
| 19:37.10 | Deepa|Away | I have to rewrite my PHP scripts? |
| 19:37.27 | Deepa|Away | But suEXEC did what I wanted just up until recently |
| 19:37.33 | \amethyst | even for PHP? |
| 19:37.45 | Deepa|Away | Especially PHP! |
| 19:37.52 | adama | you don't need a shbang in php scripts |
| 19:37.56 | Deepa|Away | SuPHP whined about things like userdir being outside wwwroot |
| 19:38.04 | adama | unless you want to execute from the command line |
| 19:38.14 | \amethyst | adama: even when using cgi-script as the handler? |
| 19:38.50 | \amethyst | I guess php-cgi as the handler might work, then you wouldn't need to change the scripts |
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| 19:39.01 | adama | not familiar with that... why not use php for the handler? |
| 19:39.03 | \amethyst | but I'm at about the end of my knowledge now |
| 19:39.16 | \amethyst | adama: because he wants to run PHP scripts under suExec |
| 19:39.51 | Deepa|Away | Internal Server Error |
| 19:39.51 | Deepa|Away | Script "/home/deepy/public_html/whoami.php" resolving to "/home/deepy/public_html/whoami.php" not within configured docroot |
| 19:39.51 | Deepa|Away | suPHP 0.6.2 |
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| 19:41.13 | adama | mmmmm I think I tried to do that once... I made a shell script owned by root, and set up sudo for www-root, then in php put exec('sudo script.sh') ...something like that. Giant hack :P |
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| 19:42.17 | adama | sounds like you are on the right track... need to configure suPHP some more, restart apache |
| 19:42.39 | Deepa|Away | suPHP and userdirs = no happiness |
| 19:43.16 | \amethyst | ah, maybe debian suPHP is built in paranoid mode |
| 19:43.35 | Deepa|Away | wonderful :p |
| 19:43.50 | Deepa|Away | check_vhost_docroot=false |
| 19:43.51 | Deepa|Away | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:44.23 | Deepa|Away | Will this end up as one of those cases where I have to make my own package? |
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| 19:44.58 | \amethyst | maybe :( |
| 19:45.07 | lenbust | avtobiff: hello, sir |
| 19:45.15 | \amethyst | googling for suexec php might give you some more info on getting the PHP CGI stuff working |
| 19:45.40 | \amethyst | suphp userdir might be worth googling too |
| 19:45.43 | Deepa|Away | I should just revert to my old suPHP install |
| 19:45.47 | lenbust | avtobiff: I'm looking for the spanish inquisition |
| 19:45.50 | Deepa|Away | Since paranoid suphp doesn't want to work with anything |
| 19:46.07 | \amethyst | Deepa|Away: that might be most reasonable, if you had it working before |
| 19:46.24 | \amethyst | Deepa|Away: build your own suphp packages perhaps |
| 19:46.32 | Deepa|Away | Is there a simple way to revert to an older package? |
| 19:46.42 | \amethyst | do you still have the .deb ? |
| 19:46.46 | Deepa|Away | Because I tried building packages once, and it was far from simple |
| 19:47.08 | Deepa|Away | suphp-common_0.6.2-1+etch0_amd64.deb suphp-common_0.6.2-3_amd64.deb |
| 19:47.08 | Deepa|Away | rawr |
| 19:47.24 | \amethyst | there's also libapache2-mod-suphp |
| 19:47.38 | Deepa|Away | magician:/var/cache/apt/archives# ls *suphp* |
| 19:47.38 | Deepa|Away | libapache2-mod-suphp_0.6.2-1+etch0_amd64.deb suphp-common_0.6.2-1+etch0_amd64.deb |
| 19:47.38 | Deepa|Away | libapache2-mod-suphp_0.6.2-3_amd64.deb suphp-common_0.6.2-3_amd64.deb |
| 19:47.49 | \amethyst | dpkg -i the old .debs (you'll probably have to do both at the same time) |
| 19:47.50 | dpkg | package the old .debs (you'll probably have to do both at the same time) is already installed |
| 19:48.04 | \amethyst | dpkg: no one asked you :P |
| 19:48.05 | dpkg | \amethyst: i don't know |
| 19:48.08 | \amethyst | that's right |
| 19:48.18 | Deepa|Away | Already done that :) |
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| 19:49.31 | Posterdati | hi |
| 19:49.55 | Posterdati | what is serport.ko module in sparc arch??? |
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| 19:50.21 | Deepa|Away | [Wed Sep 03 21:50:02 2008] [error] [client 85.11.214.209] SoftException in Application.cpp:202: Script "/home/bugs/public_html/index.php" resolving to "/home/bugs/public_html/index.php" not within configured docroot |
| 19:50.21 | Deepa|Away | [Wed Sep 03 21:50:02 2008] [error] [client 85.11.214.209] Premature end of script headers: index.php |
| 19:50.22 | Deepa|Away | :( |
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| 19:54.34 | hifi | which package contains man pages for standard C functions? |
| 19:54.41 | stew | hifi: manpages-dev |
| 19:54.44 | hifi | thanks |
| 19:54.50 | pickcoder | does anyone have a quick reference for a network console setup? |
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| 19:55.05 | pickcoder | I gotta try to log kernel debug messages |
| 19:55.21 | hifi | stew: what about networking functions, socket() etc |
| 19:55.31 | pickcoder | hifi: man socket |
| 19:55.38 | hifi | isn't there |
| 19:55.39 | pickcoder | once it's installed |
| 19:55.44 | pickcoder | manpages-dev should have it |
| 19:55.45 | hifi | oh, typo |
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| 19:55.58 | scroogey_ | hello |
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| 19:59.42 | adama | !hello |
| 19:59.43 | dpkg | Hi, adama! |
| 19:59.58 | rfj | I've been having a problem with gnome-appearance-properties SegFaulting immediately after starting it, I've searched and it seems like it's a common problem but I couldn't find a solution. Does anyone know what to do? |
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| 20:00.03 | pickcoder | well I found plenty of bug reports on the network console, but no how-to |
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| 20:02.16 | rfj | oh and I found some people saying that it was caused by 0-length files in package gnome-backgrounds-extra-debian, but I don't see any package by that name |
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| 20:02.51 | scroogey_ | i am having trouble with my debian server |
| 20:02.59 | scroogey_ | it keeps complaining in excim about unroutable address |
| 20:06.14 | stew | scroogey_: what address is it saying is unroutable? |
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| 20:07.19 | scroogey_ | stew: uh of the client |
| 20:07.30 | scroogey_ | let me get the log |
| 20:07.31 | scroogey_ | hold on |
| 20:09.35 | scroogey_ | stew: hi: http://dustyfrog.nl/dropbox/eximmail.log |
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| 20:15.46 | TheOnly | !mirrors |
| 20:15.46 | dpkg | somebody said debian mirrors was http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt | ask me about <apt-spy> or <netselect-apt> | to make a mirror, see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ or http://lists.debian.org/debian-mirrors/ |
| 20:15.52 | TheOnly | dpkg, {} |
| 20:15.52 | dpkg | from memory, {} is nt even a hacker |
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| 20:18.43 | AbortRet1yFail | anybody know what package "fsview" would be in? |
| 20:18.52 | AbortRet1yFail | It's a KDE app. |
| 20:19.06 | avu | AbortRet1yFail, use apt-file or package.debian.org to find out yourself |
| 20:19.16 | AbortRet1yFail | cool thanks, that's just as good :) |
| 20:19.26 | AbortRet1yFail | i was using apt-cache search and got noffink |
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| 20:29.54 | rfj | does anyone know how to stop gnome-appearance-properties from SegFaulting as soon as it starts up? |
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| 20:37.02 | screamingbytes | I did cat on /proc/devices, and my 4th dev is /dev/vc/0, in /dev/ there are no /dev/vc/ ... devices. Should I make them? |
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| 20:37.21 | webPragmatist | when mounting what do the zeros mean after the mask? -o umask=755 0 0 |
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| 20:39.48 | \amethyst | webPragmatist: probably that someone copied too much stuff from fstab |
| 20:39.49 | wols_ | webPragmatist: in fstab? |
| 20:40.35 | webPragmatist | oh ok |
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| 20:40.49 | webPragmatist | this is what i am reading http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=12124 |
| 20:40.57 | ApEtc | !hehstats |
| 20:40.58 | dpkg | total count of heh on #debian: 23493. Top 3: fooz -- 1608 (6.8%), ILWM -- 1444 (6.1%), rahul -- 1301 (5.5%) |
| 20:41.24 | webPragmatist | !lolstats |
| 20:41.29 | webPragmatist | :\ |
| 20:41.58 | Zambezi | It's just me having problems with apt-get? Just 14.5 KB/s. It's full speed for others? |
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| 20:42.20 | webPragmatist | it's you |
| 20:42.32 | wols_ | Zambezi: that's nor a apt-get thing but a slow mirror |
| 20:42.46 | stew | webPragmatist: "man fstab" will describe what each column is for |
| 20:43.06 | webPragmatist | stew: ok thanks |
| 20:43.23 | webPragmatist | it didn't click that they were copying it from that.... was thinking of only the mount command |
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| 20:44.08 | stew | i don't see "-o umask=755 0 0" on that page, however |
| 20:44.14 | stew | -o wouldn't go into a fstab |
| 20:44.27 | webPragmatist | ya |
| 20:44.41 | Zambezi | wols_: Of course not apt-get inself. I was just a little lacy. Probably it's my ISP. They had a "major issue" earlier today. |
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| 20:46.12 | screamingbytes | webPragmatist: 5th and 6th <dump> <pass> dump is for backing up, and pass is for not using fsck during boot |
| 20:46.29 | screamingbytes | webPragmatist: 0 = no, 1 = yes |
| 20:46.52 | Zambezi | If I stop a daemon /etc/init.d/blabla stop and then restart X, will it restart again then? |
| 20:47.14 | JPT | usually no |
| 20:47.28 | JPT | maybe if you're changing the runlevel |
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| 20:47.39 | JPT | causing some runlevel-scripts to stop / start the daemon |
| 20:47.40 | Zambezi | Cause Icedove won't start and I just remembered I got this "great" idea installing p3scan so I believe that locks the application from starting. |
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| 20:48.32 | Zambezi | JPT: Thanks. Then I kill X. Cause that didn't work just stopping the daemon so I kill X and hope for the best. |
| 20:48.50 | JPT | er...okay... no problem.. |
| 20:49.52 | JPT | if it does not start or so... just try to launch it manually |
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| 20:50.28 | rfj | does anyone know why gnome-appearance-properties SegFaults on startup, and how to fix it? |
| 20:51.00 | chomwitt_ | hi, is there a relation between the point releases of stable and security.debian.org? eg: if i have only the stable source as repository will i get the security updates ? |
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| 20:51.31 | \amethyst | chomwitt_: no, you need security as well |
| 20:52.01 | \amethyst | chomwitt_: point releases will contain security update, but if you don't have security you won't get anything until the next point release |
| 20:52.27 | \amethyst | which might take longer than you want to go unpatched |
| 20:52.51 | olejorgenb | $ xmodmap -e "clear Lock" |
| 20:52.59 | olejorgenb | xmodmap: bad set modifier mapping. |
| 20:53.09 | olejorgenb | what is this? |
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| 20:56.04 | endschranz | hi, does anyone have already installed debian armel on a nslu2? |
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| 20:59.05 | Zambezi | I stop p3scan-daemon, killed X, purge p3scan, killed X, but Icedove won't start. It still says it's already running. Nothing in killall, nothing special in top. What can be locking it? |
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| 20:59.40 | yao_ziyuan | i want to know if "apt-get update" also receives md5/sha1 checksums of all packages |
| 20:59.48 | yao_ziyuan | this is very important to me because i'm in china |
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| 21:00.09 | yao_ziyuan | i plan to use "sudo torify apt-get update" to securely get the checksums of new packages, |
| 21:00.31 | yao_ziyuan | and then use "sudo apt-get upgrade" (without torify) to fast download upgradable packages |
| 21:00.40 | Zambezi | yao_ziyuan: In some packages, you can add a verificationcode iirc. |
| 21:01.02 | yao_ziyuan | Zambezi: i want to know the general case |
| 21:01.13 | amphi | yao_ziyuan: packages are signed AFAIK |
| 21:01.29 | yao_ziyuan | Zambezi: my government can inject their own packages (with their own checksums in these packages) |
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| 21:01.43 | kantor | somebody know about the odman program ? |
| 21:01.49 | yao_ziyuan | amphi: some package repositories not, e.g. ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4 |
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| 21:02.21 | yao_ziyuan | so i want to know, when "apt-get update" downloads package lists, does it also download checksums for each package in the lists |
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| 21:02.25 | stew | yao_ziyuan: yes, "apt-get update" updates /var/lib/apt/lists/*Packages files, which contain MD5/sha1/sha256 signatures |
| 21:02.29 | Zambezi | yao_ziyuan: Can you come to #debian-offtopic ? I'm curious about some things in China. Add we can't take it in here. |
| 21:03.17 | abrotman | !slug |
| 21:03.17 | yao_ziyuan | stew: good |
| 21:03.17 | dpkg | it has been said that slug is the Sydney Linux User Group. Meetings are normally held on the last Friday of each month, at UTS (University of Technology). See http://www.slug.org.au/ for further details, #slug on irc.freenode.net. A slang term for the Linksys <NSLU2>, an ARM device with 2 USB 2.0 ports and a 10/100 ethernet port. |
| 21:03.58 | yao_ziyuan | Zambezi: hoho |
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| 21:04.53 | grendal_prime | ok this is a werid request |
| 21:04.58 | abrotman | from you .. doubtful |
| 21:04.59 | stew | yao_ziyuan: though as long as you are only using signed repositories (all the official debian respositories are signed), then your government (or anybody for that matter) shouldn't be able to tamper the package lists with or without tor without you noticing |
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| 21:05.58 | grendal_prime | i have a package i would like to make part of the package adjust the sources.list file to point to a new repo, and then update before it intstalls the contets of the package. |
| 21:06.17 | path_ | is there a way to know the percentaje being copied while I'm doing a cp ? |
| 21:06.24 | grendal_prime | does that make any sence? |
| 21:06.30 | dmoerner | grendal_prime: that sounds like the worst security decision i have ever heard |
| 21:06.38 | grendal_prime | hehehehe |
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| 21:06.58 | dmoerner | theoretically you should be able to do that in .postinst |
| 21:07.01 | dmoerner | or rather .preinst |
| 21:07.02 | grendal_prime | and it would be. thing is the package is going to be hand deliverd to the box and then run. |
| 21:07.19 | grendal_prime | ya preinstall i would think. |
| 21:08.02 | grendal_prime | but can i put the new sources.lst in as a file/binary or do i need to kill and recreate the file with like...touch ? |
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| 21:08.12 | emo_ | hi |
| 21:08.32 | emo_ | i have cloned a hard disk |
| 21:08.40 | emo_ | the new disk is placed at the same sata port as the original |
| 21:08.45 | emo_ | but grub says error 21 |
| 21:08.55 | emo_ | is there a way to fix the grub from live cd or something? |
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| 21:09.03 | grendal_prime | did you get the mbr as well? |
| 21:09.17 | emo_ | i guess not, i am novice |
| 21:09.21 | grendal_prime | the mbr is sort of its own partion. |
| 21:09.30 | emo_ | i did dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb |
| 21:09.36 | emo_ | it cloned the partition table too |
| 21:09.43 | grendal_prime | hmm i think i have a script that dd's the mbr specifically hold on |
| 21:09.52 | emo_ | oh so nice, thanks |
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| 21:09.54 | emo_ | im patient |
| 21:09.59 | stew | that would have gotten the mbr as well |
| 21:10.15 | stew | and you can tell it got the mbr, becuase without an mbr, there would be no grub to give him a grub error |
| 21:10.24 | emo_ | correct |
| 21:10.47 | emo_ | im watching the grub parameters and there is not a mbr argument |
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| 21:11.18 | grendal_prime | #copy master boot record to sdb |
| 21:11.19 | grendal_prime | dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb count=1 bs=512 |
| 21:11.51 | stew | grendal_prime: note that your command also copies (at least part of) the partition table as well as the mbr |
| 21:11.51 | emo_ | i just used bs=4096, not count=1 |
| 21:12.06 | stew | emo_: what you did with dd is fine |
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| 21:12.17 | grendal_prime | im out then. |
| 21:12.22 | emo_ | oh, phew ^^ |
| 21:12.33 | emo_ | so it just miss the mbr |
| 21:12.57 | stew | emo_: no, you didn't miss the mbr |
| 21:13.13 | emo_ | im being confused |
| 21:13.18 | emo_ | why wont run then? |
| 21:13.32 | grendal_prime | well...what i do know id that if we dont run that specifically when we are duplicating out disk on modules. it copies everthing but the mbr. |
| 21:13.34 | stew | emo_: likely because it is looking in the wrong place for your partition containing /boot |
| 21:13.50 | grendal_prime | hold on mabe im looking at the wrong script. |
| 21:14.05 | emo_ | reinstalling grub in the correct partition, could work? |
| 21:14.09 | stew | grendal_prime: his command is "copy the entire disk", yours is "only copy the first 512 bytes of the disk" |
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| 21:14.36 | grendal_prime | yep and then we have two other partions that the os's are installed on. |
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| 21:14.40 | stew | emo_: check /boot/grub/device.map and make sure that the "#groot=" line in /boot/grub/menu.lst is pointing to the right device |
| 21:14.45 | ma3x | is there a nice laptop battery monitor for kde? klaptopdaemon was removed from kde and kpowersave is often not correctly displaying battery status/info |
| 21:14.59 | emo_ | okay i go |
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| 21:15.06 | grendal_prime | so stew your right. in our case though the mbr is on the root, and the os's are on partions 1 and 2 |
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| 21:16.06 | noother | are there any known problems with installing ubuntu .deb's which contain single programs or games on debian? |
| 21:16.29 | wols_ | noother: not supported at all. it can work or blow up. can't tell |
| 21:16.40 | dread | after a kernel panic, I'm getting 'Starting NFS common utilities: statd failed!' when I try to start my system, and there fore can't connect to the internet, can anyone help me? |
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| 21:17.19 | stew | noother: we'd strongly recommend recompiling them against your debian system instad of just trying to install them. "/msg dpkg ssb" gives an approximation of how you would do that |
| 21:17.44 | emo_ | stew: that file only says in each line: (hd0) /dev/hda (hd1) /dev/hdb and so on |
| 21:18.01 | emo_ | not any line about #groot or something else |
| 21:18.24 | stew | emo_: what does "grep groot /boot/grub/menu.lst" return? |
| 21:18.46 | noother | okay, thanks |
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| 21:19.10 | emo_ | it says # groot=(hd0,0) |
| 21:19.28 | wols_ | dread: how does nfs control your internet? |
| 21:19.43 | stew | emo_: that tell grub that it should be looking at /dev/hda1 for the partition that contains /boot. which partition actually contains /boot ? |
| 21:19.56 | jhamlin | wow kmail is useless garbarge |
| 21:20.16 | dread | I have no idea..I was assuming that's what was stopping me from connecting with ym wireless card |
| 21:20.32 | emo_ | right now /boot is in a ext3 partition at the first place of the disk in /dev/sda1 |
| 21:20.33 | wols_ | dread: it doesn't |
| 21:20.50 | stew | emo_: does device.map mention sda? |
| 21:21.19 | emo_ | in the last line: (hd3) /dev/sda |
| 21:21.26 | emo_ | it seems as an alphabetic order |
| 21:21.41 | emo_ | can i type simply (hd0) /dev/sda ? |
| 21:21.47 | emo_ | and delete else |
| 21:22.00 | stew | emo_: then try change "# groot=(hd0,0)" to "# groot=(hd3,0)" and run "update-grub" |
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| 21:22.02 | dread | hmm..ok..now I have to figure out why I can't get on the internet.. |
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| 21:22.33 | stew | emo_: update-grub will change the root entries in all of the individual kernels in the "DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC" section of menu.lst |
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| 21:24.04 | emo_ | the upgrade-grub command says: no grub directory found, to create a template run mkdir /boot/grub |
| 21:24.19 | emo_ | i mounted the hd in /media/disk, just as ubuntu did by default |
| 21:24.31 | emo_ | and pwd is /media/disk/boot/grub |
| 21:24.45 | emo_ | it also says about grub-install |
| 21:25.10 | stew | emo_: oh, you'd need to chroot to your debian install first, try "chroot /media/disk" as root, which will open a subshell inside your debian install |
| 21:25.19 | stew | emo_: this assumes that /usr is mounted |
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| 21:25.37 | jhamlin | is it true that I can't `aptitude purge kmail` without getting rid of all of kde?? |
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| 21:25.51 | stew | emo_: and you might want to run "mount --bind /dev /media/disk/dev" before running chroot, and "mount /proc ; mount /sys" after |
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| 21:26.52 | stew | jhamlin: kde depends on kmail, but the "kde" package is just a meta-package that depends on other packages, if you remove the kde package it will by default want to remove the things that were installed in order to satisfy dependencies. |
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| 21:27.39 | stew | jhamlin: you can mark these as manually installed with "aptitude unmarkauto pacakge1 package2..." |
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| 21:28.17 | jhamlin | stew: how to I generate a list of the hundreds of packages to unmarkauto? |
| 21:28.36 | emo_ | stew: the mount --bind was success, but the /proc/ and /sys says they are already mounted |
| 21:28.43 | emo_ | i skip that and go ahead with the chroot? |
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| 21:29.32 | emo_ | i feel /proc/ is the live cd |
| 21:29.33 | jhamlin | Or better yet how do I get kmail to be capable of sending emails?? |
| 21:29.57 | stew | jhamlin: actually just "aptitude unmarkauto '~i~Rkde'" should do it |
| 21:30.45 | stew | jhamlin: meaning "installed packages which kde depends on" |
| 21:30.46 | jhamlin | stew: very cool thanks |
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| 21:30.54 | stew | emo_: you can run "mount --bind /proc /media/disk/proc" before chroot or "mount /proc" after |
| 21:31.32 | emo_ | same with /sys ? |
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| 21:32.25 | stew | yes |
| 21:33.05 | pickcoder | meh.. I'm getting line overdraw with serial login |
| 21:33.13 | emo_ | okay! |
| 21:33.21 | emo_ | it worked |
| 21:33.30 | emo_ | i go restart it before to clap |
| 21:34.26 | dustybin | if web applications are the way forward, will there one day be a web version of photoshop? |
| 21:34.48 | chomwitt_ | \amethyst: thanks! sorry for the delay..(my connection from trikala greece is a mess... ) |
| 21:34.56 | chomwitt_ | amethyst: thanks! sorry for the delay..(my connection from trikala greece is a mess... ) |
| 21:35.17 | dustybin | amethyst: thanks! sorry for the delay..(my connection from trikala greece is a mess... ) |
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| 21:41.55 | emo_ | sorry for bothering you stew, the menu.lst now says groot=(hd3,0) and device.map says (hd3) /dev/sda |
| 21:42.01 | emo_ | same as the disk is on |
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| 21:42.06 | emo_ | i think everything is fine now |
| 21:42.16 | emo_ | but when i restart it says loanding... and error 21 again |
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| 21:42.30 | emo_ | i cant press b even to edit |
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| 21:43.07 | MXIIA | what should the permissions for /root/ be? |
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| 21:43.31 | dmoerner | MXIIA: drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 2008-09-03 13:44 root, should I ask why you want to know? |
| 21:44.02 | MXIIA | I chmodded it so I could install some stuff. Now I want to set it back |
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| 21:45.20 | carambas | hi, guys. I'm havin a hard time installing debian on my new (old, really) laptop. It doesn't have a cd or floppy. I wanted to istall debian from internet. In the documentation they say i should download "netboot/debian-installer/i386/initrd.gz". But there's no link to that file. Can it be any initrd.gz? From any iso? I'm confused, i'd gladly see some help from you, guys.. |
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| 21:45.56 | MXIIA | netinst is still a CD (If I remember correctly) |
| 21:46.22 | dmoerner | carambas: ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/debian-installer/i386/ |
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| 21:46.41 | carambas | thank you very much, dmoerner! |
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| 21:50.04 | emo_ | oh, i removed the others hd and grub works now |
| 21:50.10 | emo_ | i guess hd3,0 is wrong |
| 21:50.34 | emo_ | 0,0 |
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| 21:51.45 | stew | emo_: perhaps your bios was booting to the wrong drive |
| 21:52.34 | emo_ | yes |
| 21:52.51 | emo_ | i appreciate so much your help and patient with me, stew, you resolved my problem in few time |
| 21:52.58 | emo_ | thank you so much for the clues and commands |
| 21:53.07 | stew | you're welcome |
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| 21:55.14 | carambas | i got only one question (for now, but i hope it'll be enough forever:) ) more: In the documentation they instruct me to download "Debian CD image". Should it be this one: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r4a/i386/iso-cd/debian-40r4a-i386-CD-1.iso? It's the firs one of many, many CDs with the system. Sorry i ask that kind of stupid question, but i guess it's better to ask now than fix later |
| 21:57.32 | dmoerner | carambas: if you use netboot initrd.gz and kernel you need no cd image |
| 21:57.42 | n3kl | Is there a way to do something like, crontab -e<file? |
| 21:58.41 | dmoerner | n3kl: i don't think so, since crontab uses the /etc/alternatives editor |
| 21:58.49 | dmoerner | if you use vi then just :r filename to do what you want |
| 21:59.05 | stew | n3kl: yes, man 1 crontab |
| 22:00.23 | carambas | yes, i know that, dmoerner. Turned out, i'll be better installing form hard drive (in case something went wrong with my connection). I got the initrd.gz and vmlinuz for that kind of installation i just need a Debian CD. Started downloading the first one, but i wanted to make sure i did the right choice |
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| 22:00.54 | dmoerner | carambas: i believe that is the correct cd |
| 22:01.13 | stew | carambas: you can use that cd or a netinst cd |
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| 22:02.29 | carambas | thanks. I really appreciate your time. It's true what they say about linux community - it exists and helps. I hope i'll not have to address you again with my silly doubts:) Cheers, guys! |
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| 22:04.10 | And1 | Hey there... I'm trying to "make" something, but I get this error: fsys_reiserfs.c:371: warning: conflicting types for built-in function 'log2' |
| 22:04.25 | And1 | Anyone any idea, what I can do? I don't find anything on google. |
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| 22:05.19 | foug | i've installed lm-sensors, ran sensors-detect, but when i do 'sensors' it tells me there are no sensors. Any suggestions? |
| 22:05.24 | chomwitt_ | are there older point releases of stable available in a repository ? |
| 22:07.16 | abrotman | chomwitt_: why? |
| 22:07.27 | dmoerner | And1: that is labeled as a warning. could you post the full log? |
| 22:07.50 | And1 | dmoerner: Yup, one moment please. |
| 22:08.23 | chomwitt_ | abrotman: i wanted to fall back somehow.. |
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| 22:08.41 | abrotman | that doesn't make sense |
| 22:09.01 | And1 | dmoerner: http://paste.lisp.org/display/66267 |
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| 22:10.59 | greymalkin | Is there a way to use mentors.debian.net in my sources.list so that I can get access to some of the packages there? Is there a better way to do this without sources.list? |
| 22:11.01 | davidisko | why the hell there is no truecrypt package for debian? i don't f<ck understand these politics... |
| 22:11.38 | davidisko | unbelieveable |
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| 22:12.11 | abrotman | greymalkin: no |
| 22:12.20 | Somni | davidisko: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/506 |
| 22:12.40 | davidisko | Somni: yea, i tried that.. |
| 22:12.47 | davidisko | Somni: failed on building kernel |
| 22:12.55 | Somni | you asked why it's not included, that explains why |
| 22:13.07 | dmoerner | greymalkin: you can add the deb-src line: deb-src http://mentors.debian.net/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free i believe |
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| 22:13.54 | abrotman | oh .. i thought you couldn't |
| 22:13.57 | abrotman | is a liar :( |
| 22:14.05 | themill | you can't |
| 22:14.15 | x1938- | smacks ariana on her ass |
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| 22:14.16 | stew | greymalkin: please note that many packages on mentors.debian.net are unchecked and are of low quality |
| 22:14.18 | abrotman | oh .. but they're all source |
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| 22:14.24 | stew | they even let themill put packages there |
| 22:14.29 | themill | :( |
| 22:14.40 | stew | :P |
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| 22:14.52 | davidisko | Somni: it explains nothing.. tell me one rational reason why the package for debian isn't builded and ported and for ubuntu is builded and ported. |
| 22:15.25 | davidisko | Somni: i'm really courious about ur answer |
| 22:15.45 | davidisko | *curious |
| 22:15.53 | Somni | because Debian requires software packaged for the distribution to conform to the DFSG |
| 22:16.00 | Somni | Ubuntu doesn't |
| 22:16.16 | Somni | well, software distributed with the distribution, rather |
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| 22:16.38 | davidisko | omfg. |
| 22:16.48 | davidisko | it's stupid politics |
| 22:16.55 | davidisko | not system reuqirements or abilities. |
| 22:16.57 | davidisko | just politics |
| 22:17.04 | Somni | shrugs |
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| 22:17.14 | Somni | if you want to believe so, it's been a design goal of Debian since the beginning |
| 22:17.27 | themill | davidisko: no, it's some idiot trying to write a clever licence rather than using an existing licence and ending up making something that debian is not allowed to distribute |
| 22:17.34 | Somni | there are plenty of distributions you can use if you don't like it |
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| 22:18.19 | greymalkin | dmoerner: Thank you; stew: I'll keep that in mind -- just need liblog4cxx10 anyway. |
| 22:18.25 | davidisko | Somni: and that's the answer? you can use another distribution? don't make me laugh please.. |
| 22:18.47 | davidisko | Somni: you tell that to milion debian users? |
| 22:18.59 | Somni | davidisko: if you don't like Debian's requirement that the licenses of software conform to the DFSG, yes |
| 22:19.40 | Somni | the requirement is not going to change |
| 22:19.45 | amphi | davidisko: you can always build the odd thing from source yourself |
| 22:20.09 | davidisko | amphi: i tried.. but for some uncompatibility with 2.6.26 i can't |
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| 22:21.56 | amphi | davidisko: you need .26 ? |
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| 22:22.49 | davidisko | amphi: no.. but it's default of debian sid now.. so why should i change it? |
| 22:23.37 | amphi | davidisko: if what you want to use will work with .25, that would seem to be a reason |
| 22:23.38 | Somni | depends; if .26 is the source of the problem, changing it would fix it |
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| 22:23.47 | davidisko | i just want to use truecrypt. not to recompile whole system and waste the night with bullshits.. |
| 22:23.50 | Somni | it's hard to tell, though, given you haven't described the actual problem as far as I can see |
| 22:25.01 | And1 | dmoerner: No idea, what's wrong there? |
| 22:26.19 | stew | davidisko: then perhaps you should use a different distribution that is willing to violate the truecrypt distribution license. debian is not going to be willing to violate the truecrypt license agreement |
| 22:26.33 | davidisko | Somni: http://paste.debian.net/16347/ |
| 22:26.53 | davidisko | stew: yes, probably i will.. |
| 22:27.19 | Somni | davidisko: the solution should be obvious, then |
| 22:27.29 | davidisko | Somni: i know.. |
| 22:28.53 | davidisko | Somni: i just want to apt-get install truecrypt and use it.. :) |
| 22:29.12 | davidisko | Somni: it's so much? |
| 22:29.15 | Somni | davidisko: tough, deal with reality instead of hoping |
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| 22:29.28 | themill | davidisko: so convince truecrypt to adopt a sane license, package it for debian and maintain the package in the debian archive. Easy. |
| 22:30.18 | davidisko | themill: i can't image what an `insane` licencse truecrypt has.. |
| 22:30.40 | themill | davidisko: then why are you using it? |
| 22:31.09 | n3kl | I like to swim up stream |
| 22:31.29 | abrotman | davidisko: something that is non-DFSG |
| 22:31.31 | davidisko | themill: because i don't care about redisturbing and so on.. |
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| 22:32.39 | themill | davidisko: the licence actually restricts your use of truecrypt as well as redistribution. Non-free licences can do all sorts of thing that don't relate to redistribution.... see google's chrome licence for example. |
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| 22:33.34 | davidisko | themill: but i don't want to redisturbe it.. i don't care about license conditions.. i just want to use open-source software. |
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| 22:34.07 | abrotman | http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2008/01/msg00122.html |
| 22:34.07 | bLACKsHUCK | Hi, new to Debain, trying to make a very lightweight, Operabrowser only distro, that boots for PS3, when you exit, it boots back to gameOS |
| 22:34.20 | themill | davidisko: just because you have the source code doesn't mean you are allowed to use it. Licences aren't just about distribution. Please reread my last line more carefully. |
| 22:34.25 | bLACKsHUCK | (to get round the clunky PS3 browser) |
| 22:34.58 | abrotman | !cdd |
| 22:34.58 | dpkg | Have a look at http://wiki.debian.org/Simple-CDD |
| 22:35.06 | bLACKsHUCK | Anyway, fallen at the first hurdle, seems Opera is not in Debians package manager |
| 22:35.17 | abrotman | bLACKsHUCK: /msg dpkg opera apt |
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| 22:35.54 | davidisko | themill: ah.. for example ubuntu have got packages of truecrypt.. does it mean that they agree with truecrypt license? |
| 22:36.08 | themill | davidisko: it probably means that they are violating it, in fact. |
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| 22:37.26 | davidisko | themill: why would debian violate that license?:) |
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| 22:37.42 | davidisko | not violate |
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| 22:38.15 | bLACKsHUCK | what do I need to get the "deb" command? |
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| 22:38.28 | abrotman | the what? |
| 22:38.32 | bLACKsHUCK | (wishes people thought before writing documentation...) |
| 22:38.37 | abrotman | !tell bLACKsHUCK about sources.list |
| 22:38.44 | abrotman | wishes people would read the documentation |
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| 22:39.04 | bLACKsHUCK | wishes there was even documentation for PS3 Debian |
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| 22:39.21 | madk | where do i get the aurora engine? |
| 22:39.22 | themill | wishes people wanting help in #debian tried politeness rather than insults first |
| 22:39.26 | madk | !aurora |
| 22:39.31 | abrotman | oh .. well .. since it's not actually debian .. we shouldn't be helping you |
| 22:39.37 | beardy | It would help. |
| 22:39.40 | MariachiAC | Hello. I've configured the volume control or alsa mixer to use external amplify, duplicate front, and surround jack mode. Everything is on, but I don't get volume from the center speaker. CAn anyone help? |
| 22:39.44 | abrotman | !tell bLACKsHUCK about ps3 |
| 22:39.46 | abrotman | have a nice day |
| 22:39.51 | beardy | !customer |
| 22:39.51 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building |
| 22:39.56 | MariachiAC | alsa surround sound is on |
| 22:40.09 | MariachiAC | also** |
| 22:40.22 | beardy | Hmm, what's the Abu one..? |
| 22:40.39 | stew | davidisko: you'll have to ask ubuntu about how/why they are distributing the software, we don't know. if you are curious about why debian cannot redistribute it, google for "truecrypt debian-legal" |
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| 22:41.48 | abrotman | i already gave the link |
| 22:42.11 | beardy | !come again |
| 22:42.12 | dpkg | Please pay for your purchases and get out and Come Again!! |
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| 22:43.29 | beardy | :) |
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| 22:48.00 | rahul | heh |
| 22:48.18 | rahul | the top hehstats people aren't even regulars any more |
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| 22:48.37 | rahul | y'all are lazy |
| 22:49.01 | rahul | speaking of which, off to the gym for me |
| 22:49.28 | sabayonlive-8911 | =_( how to configure grub ? i just installed debian etch , and i reboot ... i thought that it was a linux terminal, but it was a grub terminal |
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| 22:52.10 | sabayonlive-8911 | anyone ???? |
| 22:52.34 | abrotman | hit enter? |
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| 22:54.08 | JonLur | Any linux wi-fi hotspot managment solutions available? Like this Windows solution from PatronSoft http://patronsoft.com/firstspot/index.html |
| 22:54.47 | [a1] | sabayonlive-8911, you did update-grub before modify file? |
| 22:55.04 | mimcpher | Lots, JonLur. One I've used is "chillispot" |
| 22:55.27 | sabayonlive-8911 | [a1]: upgrade grub file ? |
| 22:55.37 | sabayonlive-8911 | [a1]: how do i do it ? |
| 22:57.01 | [a1] | sabayonlive-8911, well if you change any on the configuration file off grub ...you need to update like that mmmread man grub |
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| 22:58.26 | sabayonlive-8911 | [a1]: but it is normal to open an grub terminal after installing debian ? |
| 22:59.15 | abrotman | JonLur: freshmeat.net ? |
| 22:59.44 | [a1] | a menu its normal |
| 23:00.03 | sabayonlive-8911 | [a1]: how do i start debian ? |
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| 23:01.10 | sabayonlive-8911 | does anyone knows how to start debian ? i installed and it opens a grub terminal ... |
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| 23:02.43 | JonLur | mimcpher: thanks for chillispot track |
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| 23:03.21 | mimcpher | JonLur, there's a bunch more; I just know chillispot from using openwrt. |
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| 23:09.23 | Sal_ | anyone have experience setting up NameServers on bind9? |
| 23:09.38 | manu_hack | for kernel upgrade like from 2.6.26-3 to 2.6.26-4, do I have to recompile all the modules? |
| 23:09.39 | sabayonlive-8911 | anyone have experience setting up grub ? |
| 23:09.54 | Pobega | sabayonlive-8911, what's your problem? |
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| 23:10.49 | sabayonlive-8911 | Pobega: i just installed debian etch, and i restarted my computer ... and appears a grub terminal |
| 23:11.00 | Lagbolt | sabayonlive-8911, what is your prob |
| 23:11.07 | Lagbolt | no menu? |
| 23:11.13 | sabayonlive-8911 | nope |
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| 23:11.15 | Pobega | sabayonlive-8911, is there any error? Is it a GRUB from a previous install, perhaps? |
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| 23:11.38 | abrotman | sabayonlive-8911: hit enter |
| 23:11.42 | Lagbolt | interesting. did you change anything when it asked about installing a boot loader? |
| 23:11.44 | Pobega | sabayonlive-8911, since you are on a LiveCD (I assume) have you checked the /boot/ directory on your hard drive? |
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| 23:11.48 | abrotman | sabayonlive-8911: when you hit enter on the grub menu .. it should load linux |
| 23:11.49 | Sal_ | Basically I have a dedicated server, and I'm trying to setup nameservers on my box, so domains can point to it. Example ns1.mydomain.com ns2.mydomain.com, but I'm not sure how to set it up. I looked on google but I really didn't find anything directly pointing at my issue. Can anyone help? |
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| 23:12.17 | sabayonlive-8911 | Pobega: i formated grub , and reinstalled it with debian cd |
| 23:12.24 | sabayonlive-8911 | abrotman: ok i will try it |
| 23:12.38 | abrotman | Sal_: install/read bind9-doc |
| 23:12.45 | Pobega | sabayonlive-8911, is it a GRUB command line or are there choics? |
| 23:12.47 | Pobega | choices, even |
| 23:12.57 | sabayonlive-8911 | Pobega: command line |
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| 23:13.25 | Pobega | sabayonlive-8911, then hitting enter won't do anything. I had this problem once...I'm not on my box right now so hold on, I need to google stuff |
| 23:13.33 | Lagbolt | sabayonlive-8911, i would boot a liveCD or rescue and mount the drive and edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and see whats in there |
| 23:13.38 | Pobega | sabayonlive-8911, have you checked your /boot/ directory to see what's in there? |
| 23:14.08 | Lagbolt | sabayonlive-8911, do you know what drive / partition you installed too? you can manually enter these at grub prompt |
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| 23:14.18 | abrotman | maybe just one person should help him |
| 23:14.26 | abrotman | you're both telling him different things |
| 23:15.06 | Pobega | abrotman, I've had this exact problem before, either he has a seperate /boot/ partition that isn't booting, or just doesn't have the config file. |
| 23:15.10 | Pobega | shrugs |
| 23:15.26 | abrotman | well .. that hsould be easy to check even from the grub command line |
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| 23:15.43 | Lagbolt | yeah, that is why i asked if he knows what drive/part it is on |
| 23:15.45 | abrotman | you can ask grub to load a config(menu.lst) from the command line |
| 23:15.58 | abrotman | he should be able to guess .. last i knew grub had tab completion ? |
| 23:16.01 | Pobega | The GRUB command line is pretty minimal and barbaric, you can't do much besides root (hd0,0), kernel <whatever>, boot |
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| 23:16.27 | Lagbolt | abrotman, yeah but knowing what the root is helps speed things along |
| 23:16.33 | abrotman | if it's on root |
| 23:16.45 | Pobega | Seems like he isn't even here anymore...haha |
| 23:16.55 | Pobega | Seems to be daydreaming. |
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| 23:18.09 | pipeline | Pobega: it's a bootloader, what do you expect |
| 23:18.28 | Pobega | pipeline, Oh, I wasn't saying I expect any more, I was responding to what abrotman said. |
| 23:18.28 | Lagbolt | sabayonlive-8911, you still alive? |
| 23:18.41 | Tramp | Pobega: the grub cmdline is surprisingly powerful. There are more than 30 commands available iirc. |
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| 23:19.09 | abrotman | almost three dozen! |
| 23:19.21 | Tramp | Pobega: especially "find" is very useful, if one don't know how to start |
| 23:19.27 | Pobega | Luckily I've never had to be on it for more than a minute at a time, so I wouldn't know how powerful it really is, I suppose. But I don't think you can search through your partitions and files, can you? |
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| 23:19.39 | Tramp | Pobega: ^^ |
| 23:19.59 | Pobega | Oh, okay. I retract my statement, abrotman |
| 23:20.11 | abrotman | which is that? |
| 23:20.14 | Pobega | And yeah, I don't think he's here any more. |
| 23:20.24 | Pobega | abrotman (that you can't do much on the GRUB command line) |
| 23:20.32 | abrotman | oh |
| 23:20.45 | Pobega | I'm still learning so I'm bound to say some dumb things. |
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| 23:21.35 | pablo | hi, why it says debconf will last more as apt-utils is not installed? why is this? |
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| 23:22.08 | Pobega | pablo: What do you mean 'last more'? |
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| 23:22.23 | allos_nerelin | How do i block in VPS the users shell of see others users shell? |
| 23:22.43 | pablo | Pobega: i will have to wait more time |
| 23:22.54 | pablo | Pobega: it says something like that |
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| 23:23.19 | ech0dish1 | hello |
| 23:23.22 | iwkse | hi all, i'm using apt-listbugs, i would like to know if there's a way to update all packages but avoid the one selected by apt-listbugs. Actually i can only install all or abort. |
| 23:23.23 | ech0dish1 | can someone help me out here? |
| 23:23.34 | adama | !hello |
| 23:23.34 | dpkg | Hi, adama! |
| 23:23.42 | Pobega | ech0dish1: Just ask. |
| 23:23.51 | ech0dish1 | am having some dificulties removing a module |
| 23:24.08 | ech0dish1 | trying to set up ndiswrapper and can't because of an alternate driver being used |
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| 23:24.24 | Pobega | iwkse: All programs listed not installed, or just severe? |
| 23:24.25 | abrotman | modprobe -r |
| 23:24.29 | ech0dish1 | rmmod |
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| 23:24.35 | abrotman | no .. modprobe -r |
| 23:24.37 | Pobega | ech0dish1, use modprobe -r |
| 23:24.40 | ech0dish1 | ok |
| 23:24.51 | iwkse | Pobega, all listed, i would like to install the ones not listed in apt-listbugs |
| 23:24.58 | ech0dish1 | fatal |
| 23:25.02 | ech0dish1 | ssb isin use |
| 23:25.12 | abrotman | by what? |
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| 23:25.21 | iwkse | Pobega, so if i could select it's ok too, since sometimes they are arch related or already fixed |
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| 23:25.22 | abrotman | you can use lsmod and modprobe -r to get kill it |
| 23:25.25 | ech0dish1 | rmmod shows ssb is in use by b43 |
| 23:25.36 | abrotman | do not use rmmod |
| 23:25.48 | ech0dish1 | ok, just the command shown on ndiswrappers site |
| 23:25.53 | Pobega | iwkse: I would use piping, grep and multiple commands, but that's because I'm kinda lazy. There's probably an easier way. |
| 23:25.54 | abrotman | doesn't make it right |
| 23:25.57 | ech0dish1 | k |
| 23:26.04 | iwkse | Pobega, eheh |
| 23:26.04 | ech0dish1 | no problem |
| 23:26.05 | Pobega | iwkse, Oh, and awk |
| 23:26.19 | Pobega | iwkse, If you wanna do it that way send me a message...I'll be happy to help. |
| 23:26.25 | iwkse | Pobega, yes awk would solve it, i though there's a way to do with apt-get or aptitude |
| 23:26.42 | Pobega | iwkse, Well, you could use aptitude's ncurses interface, can't you? |
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| 23:27.02 | iwkse | Pobega, yes i have that, but i don't know well aptitude |
| 23:27.02 | Pobega | I know with that you can mark upgrades, but I don't think it goes alongside apt-listbugs...You'll have to have two windows open and do it manually |
| 23:27.18 | dondelelcaro | iwkse: aptitude forbid-version foopkg; |
| 23:27.19 | iwkse | yes..it doesn't mention apt-listbugs |
| 23:27.21 | dondelelcaro | iwkse: man aptitude; |
| 23:27.24 | iwkse | i think it's something with apt-get |
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| 23:27.54 | Pobega | iwkse: apt-listbugs works with aptitude at the command line, just not with ncurses. |
| 23:27.55 | iwkse | dondelelcaro, this works with apt-listbugs? |
| 23:27.59 | Pobega | afaik, I could be wrong agai |
| 23:28.02 | ech0dish1 | am not sure how to remove this module |
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| 23:28.34 | iwkse | Pobega, i'm not yet sure aptitude uses apt-listbugs |
| 23:29.03 | Pobega | iwkse, It does, at the command line, i.e. `aptitude install foo bar` would ask you if you're sure about installing bar, because it has a severe bug |
| 23:29.17 | iwkse | Pobega, oki |
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| 23:29.39 | Pobega | iwkse, But it only warns you for severe bugs. |
| 23:29.58 | iwkse | dondelelcaro, forbid-version is not ok for a dist-upgrade i think |
| 23:30.00 | dondelelcaro | iwkse: it's got nothing to do with apt-listbugs; you just cancel out of the install, then use aptitude to forbid it from upgrading to that package |
| 23:30.02 | sabayonlive-2799 | Lagbolt: hit enter didn't worked |
| 23:30.13 | iwkse | dondelelcaro, i see |
| 23:30.17 | dondelelcaro | iwkse: then assuming you use aptitude, everything works properly. |
| 23:30.53 | Pobega | iwkse, are you upgrading versions, or just updating? |
| 23:30.53 | dondelelcaro | (aptitude has no problem using apt-listbugs, because that's a libapt hook) |
| 23:30.53 | iwkse | dondelelcaro, ok thanks |
| 23:30.55 | iwkse | Pobega, , i need to run dist-upgrade |
| 23:31.12 | iwkse | but i would like to avoid the one listbugs claim |
| 23:31.13 | Pobega | iwkse, I know, I am asking are you goign from say Etch -> Lenny, or just upgrading a Lenny box |
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| 23:31.23 | iwkse | Pobega, no, just on the same version |
| 23:31.38 | iwkse | yes upgrading on lenny |
| 23:31.52 | Pobega | iwkse, Oh, then just do a dist-upgrade, and when it comes time for aptitude to install everything it will query listbugs |
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| 23:32.04 | Pobega | (It WILL fetch EVERYTHING, though) |
| 23:32.06 | iwkse | Pobega, yes..that's the point |
| 23:32.19 | iwkse | Pobega, how to say to avoid the ones that apt-listbugs list? |
| 23:32.39 | iwkse | i'm doing dist-upgrade but there are some with bugs that i would like to don't upgrade |
| 23:32.45 | iwkse | but all the other yes |
| 23:33.11 | Pobega | iwkse, then forbid-version will work fine for you. Or, you can pin it to not install that specific version of the package. |
| 23:33.15 | iwkse | Pobega, yes |
| 23:33.17 | ech0dish1 | how to show all process id's? |
| 23:33.24 | ech0dish1 | so i can kill b43 |
| 23:33.25 | Pobega | ech0dish1, man ps |
| 23:33.30 | ech0dish1 | thank you |
| 23:33.35 | iwkse | so i'll first run dist-upgrade in check mode |
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| 23:33.37 | pipeline | ech0dish1: ps waux |
| 23:33.42 | Pobega | ech0dish1, but to make your life easier, I use `ps aux | grep <whatIamlookingfor>` |
| 23:33.46 | iwkse | get the bugged packages and relaunch it |
| 23:33.50 | dudeman | hey cool |
| 23:33.55 | dudeman | 2.6.26 is in lenny now |
| 23:34.12 | dudeman | I don't think it was in yesterday or day before |
| 23:35.01 | sabayonlive-2799 | Lagbolt: http://pastebin.com/d6fc0c4b6 |
| 23:35.14 | dudeman | !dbugs #497623 |
| 23:35.18 | dpkg | #:G[#497623] ; |
| 23:35.26 | dudeman | !dbugs 497623 |
| 23:35.30 | dpkg | #:G[#497623] ; |
| 23:35.32 | dudeman | dumbass bot |
| 23:35.44 | Lagbolt | sabayonlive-2799, i didnt say hit enter lol |
| 23:35.55 | Lagbolt | sabayonlive-2799, is that all that is in the menu.lst? nothing else? |
| 23:35.59 | sabayonlive-2799 | Lagbolt: ehuiheah ... i think it was abrodman |
| 23:36.06 | sabayonlive-2799 | Lagbolt: wait |
| 23:37.04 | abrotman | i have a name |
| 23:37.27 | sabayonlive-2799 | Lagbolt: http://pastebin.com/d41ede155 |
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| 23:38.31 | sabayonlive-2799 | Lagbolt: strange thing that the terminal says that menu.lts don't exists , but i can acess in konqueror ... livecd sux =/ |
| 23:38.47 | Lagbolt | sabayonlive-2799, the terminal? |
| 23:38.51 | Lagbolt | the grub terminal? |
| 23:39.00 | sabayonlive-2799 | Lagbolt: nope the livecd terminal |
| 23:39.12 | sabayonlive-2799 | Lagbolt: but i can acess in konqueror |
| 23:39.40 | Pobega | sabayonlive-2799, Are you accessing the LiveCD's menu.lst, or your mounted HDD's? |
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| 23:39.54 | Lagbolt | Pobega, was just about to ask that |
| 23:40.07 | Pobega | Lagbolt, Great minds think alike :) |
| 23:40.14 | jelly-home | !debstats |
| 23:40.14 | dpkg | debstats is managed by sussudio, http://debstats.dontexist.org/ (#debian FN) or http://home.wanadoo.nl/sussudio/debian-oftc.html (#debian OFTC) |
| 23:40.32 | Pobega | And the worst part of it is I did that when I was a Debian newb once...Haha |
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| 23:40.56 | sabayonlive-2799 | Pobega: i am using a live sabayon , but in the menu.lst is debian , so in pastle bin it is a mounted menu.lst |
| 23:41.21 | Pobega | sabayonlive-2799, you may need to run grub-install again. |
| 23:41.26 | Pobega | Manually, that is. |
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| 23:41.50 | sabayonlive-2799 | Pobega: should i type grub-install in grub terminal ? |
| 23:41.56 | Lagbolt | sabayonlive-2799, this is a dual boot machine? |
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| 23:42.22 | sabayonlive-2799 | Lagbolt: i was a third boot , but now it is dual |
| 23:42.29 | Pobega | sabayonlive-2799, first we need to know your partition setup...One partition, multiple, /boot partition, etc |
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| 23:42.39 | Pobega | sabayonlive-2799, http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Installing-GRUB-using-grub_002dinstall.html |
| 23:42.44 | bbelt16ag | does stable support lvm2 |
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| 23:43.48 | ech0dish1 | meh i don't get it |
| 23:44.06 | ech0dish1 | i kill b43, try and modprobe -r ssb |
| 23:44.12 | ech0dish1 | still says its in use by b43 |
| 23:44.28 | ech0dish1 | something must be restarting b43 |
| 23:44.45 | Lagbolt | you kill b43? |
| 23:44.48 | ech0dish1 | yes it's back again |
| 23:44.52 | Lagbolt | how do you kill it |
| 23:44.56 | ech0dish1 | pid |
| 23:45.00 | Lagbolt | i do "rmmod b43 ssb" and they are gone |
| 23:45.10 | sabayonlive-2799 | Pobega: sda1 = windows , sda2 = boot , sda3 = swap , sda5 = rootdebian ,sda6=home |
| 23:45.11 | dudeman | hey |
| 23:45.14 | ech0dish1 | hrm |
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| 23:45.20 | dudeman | when I go to my lamp server it says Apache/2.2.9 (Debian) PHP/5.2.6-3 with Suhosin-Patch Server at laptop Port 80 |
| 23:45.23 | dudeman | how can I stop this |
| 23:45.28 | dudeman | i dont want peopel or anyone to know this info |
| 23:45.34 | abrotman | ech0dish1: did you take down the interface ? |
| 23:45.44 | dudeman | hm |
| 23:45.45 | Lagbolt | sabayonlive-2799, so how about we just walk you thru command line to get into debian then you can do grub instll from there, nice and easy |
| 23:46.27 | ech0dish1 | i think that removed it |
| 23:46.40 | Lagbolt | sabayonlive-2799, all you have to do is type each line in the grub entry at the grub prompt |
| 23:46.41 | ech0dish1 | thanks |
| 23:46.42 | Pobega | sabayonlive-2799, should be `grub-install '(hd0,1)'`, but don't take m word on this |
| 23:46.47 | ech0dish1 | now i got to figure out the rest of ndiswrapper |
| 23:47.01 | Lagbolt | sabayonlive-2799, dont do grub install from the live cd unless you know what you are doing |
| 23:48.08 | Lagbolt | sabayonlive-2799, easiest thing is to type the lines, you pastebin'ed. just jot them down. so start with "root (hd0,1)" then the kernel line the initrd line |
| 23:48.17 | Lagbolt | sabayonlive-2799, and last type "boot" and it will boot |
| 23:48.52 | Pobega | sabayonlive-2799, you'll also need root=<something> at the end of the kernel line, since you are on a sepeate partition |
| 23:49.07 | Lagbolt | Pobega, he has that |
| 23:49.33 | Lagbolt | Pobega, it is all in the menu.lst he pasted. all he has to do is enter the commands at grub prompt |
| 23:49.38 | sabayonlive-2799 | Lagbolt: so i should write down , and write it when i restart my pc ? |
| 23:49.45 | Pobega | Lagbolt, Oh, I didn't notice the menu.lst |
| 23:49.58 | Lagbolt | sabayonlive-2799, yes :) |
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| 23:53.03 | Lagbolt | ech0dish1, what card you have? |
| 23:53.38 | ech0dish1 | erm, it's the one that came with the dell d600 |
| 23:53.46 | ech0dish1 | bcm4309 |
| 23:53.55 | ech0dish1 | broadcom corp |
| 23:54.45 | Lagbolt | ech0dish1, i have the 4311. ndiswrapper works well for me. b43 doesnt seem to do well with weak signals for me |
| 23:56.01 | Lagbolt | ech0dish1, seen this? http://autondiswrapper.informe.com/wiki/view/Main_Page |
| 23:56.47 | ech0dish1 | what do i do to get it to load the ndiswrapper one now? |
| 23:56.53 | ech0dish1 | i have the driver installed on ndiswrapper |
| 23:56.58 | ech0dish1 | and the other removed |
| 23:57.11 | ech0dish1 | this error got me all off track |
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| 23:57.54 | Lagbolt | ech0dish1, you have the ndiswrapper installed and the driver installed as well? if you ndiswrapper -l what does it show |
| 23:58.46 | ech0dish1 | present |
| 23:58.55 | ech0dish1 | dcmwl5 |
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| 23:59.01 | ech0dish1 | i do not have internet at all on the laptop |
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| 23:59.05 | ech0dish1 | no ethernet |
| 23:59.06 | Lagbolt | ech0dish1, did you "modprobe ndiswrapper" |
| 23:59.06 | ech0dish1 | nothin |
| 23:59.12 | ech0dish1 | nope |
| 23:59.13 | ech0dish1 | thx! |
| 23:59.16 | Lagbolt | :) |
