| 00:00.08 | nginx | i generally add mines to root & staff, and everything else that seems pretty in /etc/group ;) |
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| 00:00.16 | ceil420 | uhm |
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| 00:00.26 | ceil420 | how do i give my user permissions? |
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| 00:01.01 | wols_ | !tell ceil420 abut permissions |
| 00:01.14 | \amethyst | ceil420: as root, adduser user group (for example: adduser ceil video ) then log out and log back in |
| 00:01.24 | ceil420 | bah! |
| 00:01.24 | abrotman | nginx: that's a piss poor idea |
| 00:01.30 | ceil420 | i've already got stuff running :( |
| 00:01.33 | nginx | abrotman, i DO know |
| 00:01.44 | nginx | but, in fact, i DO NOT care :> |
| 00:02.00 | nginx | it's my own laptop, not a public machine, so i can afford it |
| 00:02.03 | Tramp | wow. brave decision to switch to rsyslog for lenny. "v3 is still very early in development and quite unstable" "we will NOT try hard to maintain backwards compatibility". |
| 00:02.03 | ceil420 | i'm already in the video group, according to /etc/groups |
| 00:02.14 | ceil420 | video:x:44:ceil |
| 00:03.09 | ceil420 | should i do the adduser ceil video thing anyway? |
| 00:03.39 | dudeman | no |
| 00:03.57 | ceil420 | could i like, sudo mplayer? :x |
| 00:03.58 | dudeman | you need to logout complete from the system and log back in |
| 00:03.59 | dudeman | if you have not |
| 00:04.06 | ceil420 | dudeman: i haven't changed anything |
| 00:04.13 | dudeman | what happened? |
| 00:04.15 | ceil420 | i just opened /etc/groups in nano and that line was already there |
| 00:04.52 | ceil420 | mplayer -vo svga <some movie> gives me svgalib: Cannot get I/O permissions. |
| 00:04.57 | ceil420 | damn i miss copy/paste -_- |
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| 00:05.30 | wols_ | ceil420: are you part of group video? and copy/paste works wit gpm |
| 00:05.50 | ceil420 | what's gpm? |
| 00:05.53 | Tramp | Is there somebody who has to formally approve the change of such a central component? All I find is some mail-exchange on a list where nobody objected |
| 00:05.58 | ceil420 | and /etc/groups has a line that says video:x:44:ceil |
| 00:06.15 | wols_ | ceil420: that line doesn't mean anything |
| 00:06.19 | wols_ | ceil420: man id |
| 00:06.24 | zu22 | greets, anyone know a good tutorial on creating a debian package from scratch. i have some source code and would like to make it into a debian package and get it listed in the repositories |
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| 00:06.25 | abrotman | Tramp: i think you just found your answer :) |
| 00:06.32 | abrotman | !tell zu22 about mg |
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| 00:06.50 | ceil420 | wols_: 'video' is mentioned in id's output, too |
| 00:07.07 | ceil420 | groups=44(video) |
| 00:07.12 | nb9no9nr9 | anyone know why qemu is not working very well in debian stable or unstable? |
| 00:07.35 | nginx | nb9no9nr9, qemu does not work well at all, imho |
| 00:07.42 | nginx | nb9no9nr9, try virtualbox |
| 00:07.49 | nb9no9nr9 | it worked a LOT better a while back! |
| 00:07.54 | dudeman | is installing vista in virtualbox as we speak |
| 00:07.55 | Tramp | cool. I mean, upstream releases about every five days, Docs are rudimentary and the beast is complex ... sounds like lots of fun. |
| 00:08.03 | abrotman | Tramp: closest i can think http://www.debian.org/devel/tech-ctte .. |
| 00:08.09 | nb9no9nr9 | i have kqemu installed too |
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| 00:08.39 | nb9no9nr9 | virtualbox doesnt let you access host drives |
| 00:08.40 | wols_ | nb9no9nr9: "doesn't work well" is a useless error description |
| 00:08.41 | Tramp | abrotman: ah, interesting. I'll have a look. |
| 00:08.47 | wols_ | nb9no9nr9: it does |
| 00:08.59 | nb9no9nr9 | how? some add-on? |
| 00:09.06 | wols_ | nb9no9nr9: no. read the manual |
| 00:09.13 | abrotman | Tramp: you'll see it's not very lively |
| 00:09.16 | nb9no9nr9 | knew THAT was coming |
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| 00:09.35 | nb9no9nr9 | its the official irc mantra |
| 00:09.51 | ehtom | how reliable is swfdec? |
| 00:09.59 | Tramp | abrotman: yeah, 2007 was busy, with 5 issues, compared to zilch in 05 and 06. |
| 00:10.04 | wols_ | nb9no9nr9: not my fault if you are too lazy to read section 9.9. now stop whining and read it |
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| 00:10.06 | k-man | in order to make lirc_serial loadable after boot, I have to run "setserial /dev/ttyS0 uart none" what is the debian way to set the serial port to this at boot time? |
| 00:10.13 | wols_ | ehtom: not very |
| 00:10.18 | abrotman | Tramp: there is a link to active 'issues' |
| 00:10.34 | ehtom | wols_: why does lenny/iceweasel use it by default?!? |
| 00:10.42 | nb9no9nr9 | so--back to my original question--no one knows why qemu is slow as a retarded snail these days? |
| 00:10.50 | wols_ | ehtom: cause it's DFSG, others aren't |
| 00:11.16 | ehtom | nb9no9nr9: qemu is an emulator, so its slower than virtualizers |
| 00:11.27 | nginx | DFSG - Diabetic Foot Study Group ? |
| 00:11.33 | ceil420 | ffs no sound -_- |
| 00:11.34 | SeabassT` | so i just installed debian for the first time but it doesn't detect my wired network connection |
| 00:11.40 | nb9no9nr9 | it ran MUCH faster 6 months ago on the SAME installs |
| 00:11.44 | wols_ | SeabassT`: lspci -nn |
| 00:11.46 | abrotman | !tell nginx about dfsg |
| 00:11.54 | zu22 | abrotman: a great guide! thanks |
| 00:11.55 | abrotman | SeabassT`: which is? |
| 00:12.32 | nginx | abrotman, yeah, now i do know what does the 'g' stands for :) |
| 00:12.40 | ehtom | yes, ok so swfdec is free, but I can't see flashplugin-nonfree in the reps for lenny anywhere... |
| 00:12.49 | abrotman | !tell ehtom about dmm |
| 00:12.52 | nginx | however, i've just googled dfsg and pasted what came from... |
| 00:13.15 | Tramp | abrotman: ah, found it. This stuff there looks ... not so exciting. |
| 00:13.25 | SeabassT` | wols_: the last entry describes my ethernet controller |
| 00:13.28 | ehtom | nb9no9nr9: maybe it was using the kqemu kernel accelerator module |
| 00:13.34 | abrotman | Tramp: i'm not sure if you need to be a DD to join the tech-ctte .. maybe ask don next tiem you see him around |
| 00:13.34 | ehtom | nb9no9nr9: and maybe now it isnt |
| 00:13.43 | wols_ | SeabassT`: we are not psychich. either tell us or ask for help elsewhere |
| 00:13.53 | abrotman | Tramp: might be an interesting way to contribute |
| 00:13.56 | ehtom | nb9no9nr9: kvm and xen can both read and boot qemu images though... any particular reason you need to use qemu? |
| 00:13.59 | nb9no9nr9 | ethom: no--kqemu is installed |
| 00:14.20 | SeabassT` | wols_: do you want the whole printout? |
| 00:14.21 | ehtom | nb9no9nr9: maybe kqemu isnt working? |
| 00:14.23 | Tramp | abrotman: ... and not too stressful ... |
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| 00:14.35 | abrotman | Tramp: i know ... it's like four emails a month! |
| 00:14.37 | ehtom | abrotman: "oh" |
| 00:14.48 | nb9no9nr9 | yeah i'm USED to the damn thing and a while back it RAN FINE! what has happened that it DOESNT run well anymore??? |
| 00:14.54 | abrotman | Tramp: though .. if they made more decisions .. they might get more traffic etc |
| 00:15.02 | abrotman | nb9no9nr9: less caps please |
| 00:15.03 | SeabassT` | wols_: I'm on my desktop, new debian is on my laptop so output is there |
| 00:15.24 | wols_ | ignores SeabassT` since he cannot do a simple thing when asked |
| 00:15.31 | abrotman | SeabassT`: we need to at least know what NIC you have .. we can't tell you how to get it working without knowing what it is |
| 00:15.32 | ehtom | nb9no9nr9: you mean this is the same machine it worked fine on before? |
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| 00:15.36 | nb9no9nr9 | yes |
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| 00:15.38 | SeabassT` | oh |
| 00:15.43 | ehtom | nb9no9nr9: and you haven't reinstalled or anything? |
| 00:15.44 | SeabassT` | lol, didn't know what he wanted |
| 00:15.51 | abrotman | yeah .. |
| 00:15.58 | nb9no9nr9 | all ive done is updates and upgrades |
| 00:16.05 | ceil420 | ffs then links2 -g locked up my tty ;x |
| 00:16.06 | wols_ | nb9no9nr9: new kernel |
| 00:16.06 | zu22 | Anyone ever see the movie "The Octagon" with Chuck Norris? haha it cracks me up when he says "Sakuuuuura. Ninjas don't exist anymore." lol |
| 00:16.13 | ceil420 | debian hates me -_- |
| 00:16.21 | ehtom | nb9no9nr9: hmm, wierd :S |
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| 00:16.28 | Tramp | abrotman: "The Technical Committee consists of up to 8 Developers, and should usually have at least 4 members." |
| 00:16.34 | SeabassT` | abrotman: Realtek RTL8111/8168 PCI Express |
| 00:16.41 | zu22 | Tramp: where can i find the developers websites? |
| 00:17.14 | abrotman | Tramp: seems reasonable i suppose .. but it'd be cool if they would choose like three users or something |
| 00:17.18 | wols_ | !tell SeabassT` about etchnhalf |
| 00:17.18 | Tramp | zu22: how would I know? |
| 00:17.21 | ceil420 | is there any reason to believe that debian i386 would give me less trouble than amd64? |
| 00:17.30 | abrotman | SeabassT`: use the etchnhalf installer ISO .. if you can't find hte link .. let us know |
| 00:17.37 | abrotman | ceil420: yes |
| 00:17.49 | ceil420 | abrotman, seriously? :o |
| 00:18.10 | ceil420 | would i still be able to use 64-bit apps, or would i have to reinstall some stuff? :x |
| 00:18.17 | Orbixx | So when's Lenny set for release? |
| 00:18.25 | abrotman | !tell Orbixx about wwlr |
| 00:18.49 | ceil420 | !tell ceil420 about wwlr |
| 00:18.58 | SeabassT` | wols_: thx |
| 00:18.59 | wols_ | !tell ceil420 about selftell |
| 00:19.00 | SeabassT` | abrotman: thx |
| 00:19.00 | abrotman | !tell ceil420 about selftell |
| 00:19.11 | abrotman | does a sound check |
| 00:19.17 | ceil420 | :x |
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| 00:19.47 | ceil420 | abrotman, so could i still use like, OpenArena 64, or would i have to install it's x86 version? |
| 00:19.54 | abrotman | no you could not |
| 00:19.57 | ceil420 | i don't know if individual programs are dependent on the OS or the chip |
| 00:20.01 | ceil420 | so it's OS? |
| 00:20.12 | wols_ | ceil420: on both |
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| 00:21.02 | ceil420 | wols_, debian i386 on an amd64 chip = i still install programs x86 |
| 00:21.23 | nb9no9nr9 | irc is full of people who are quick to object to use of caps for emphasis but dont have a clue on the problem you came in to get advice how to fix |
| 00:21.24 | ceil420 | at least Nexuiz is a complete package; don't have to download a different version of that one :x |
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| 00:21.42 | ceil420 | nb9no9nr9, because caps are such an eyesore they didn't bother to read the q... |
| 00:22.15 | Orbixx | Fucking tool. |
| 00:22.34 | ehtom | people like that belong in #ubuntu |
| 00:22.51 | Orbixx | s/people/idiots |
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| 00:23.46 | abrotman | not a single one of you told him to check the BTS |
| 00:24.11 | ceil420 | ? |
| 00:24.11 | Orbixx | s/you/us |
| 00:24.15 | Orbixx | Don't exclude yourself, there. |
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| 00:25.00 | abrotman | i wasn't talking to him |
| 00:25.07 | prolix | Orbixx: is that a new handle or something? |
| 00:25.19 | prolix | i've seen abrotman help countless people, i'm just now seeing you |
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| 00:25.31 | abrotman | gets the logs and starts counting |
| 00:25.40 | prolix | heh(c) |
| 00:25.48 | stew | enough... can we please move on |
| 00:25.50 | tu | there s no wine package for x86_64? |
| 00:26.26 | prolix | pardon |
| 00:26.39 | abrotman | tu: not in debian i don't think |
| 00:26.47 | abrotman | tu: which version of debian |
| 00:26.51 | stew | judd: versions wine --arch amd64 |
| 00:26.51 | judd | stew: wine: 1.0.0-1~bpo40+1 (etch-backports) 1.0.0-1 (lenny) 1.0.0-1 (sid) |
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| 00:26.57 | abrotman | ah .. |
| 00:27.00 | abrotman | the etch backports have them |
| 00:27.15 | abrotman | stew: can you make judd just speak up once in awhile so i remember he's there? :) |
| 00:27.29 | stew | maybe? |
| 00:27.46 | tu | abrotman: etch |
| 00:27.52 | abrotman | tu: /msg dpkg bpo |
| 00:28.23 | abrotman | stew: sometimes i thought it'd be interesting to have a flag in the blootbot to flag useful/interesting factoids and have dpkg spit one out once in awhile |
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| 00:29.47 | tu | what bpo40? |
| 00:29.51 | djs | Hey all. Have a laptop with an Atheros 5312 or 5313 card, and am running etchnhalf. Tried to use NetworkManager to connect to my AP, and it failed. I know I have everything set up on the AP side correctly, as other devices connect to it fine. I also have the key correct. When I used Fedora, I needed Madwifi. Do I still for this card on Debian, even though ath5k seems to be doing something? |
| 00:30.05 | abrotman | !tell tu about bpo |
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| 00:40.57 | tu | abrotman: works like a charm thx |
| 00:41.04 | abrotman | tu: enjoy! |
| 00:41.07 | htmlol | hmm that's strange |
| 00:41.19 | htmlol | my X server seems to be restarting at random |
| 00:41.33 | htmlol | it's happened twice within the last 3 hours or so |
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| 00:49.53 | k-man_ | how do i make users and root bash logins use the same bash rc files? |
| 00:50.18 | abrotman | why do you want to do that? |
| 00:50.24 | k-man_ | cos i like it? |
| 00:50.34 | k-man_ | is it a bad thing to do? |
| 00:50.52 | abrotman | they're different for a reason |
| 00:50.58 | kriebel | like, you want /sbin in your path? |
| 00:51.02 | kriebel | if that's it, just add it |
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| 00:51.16 | k-man_ | ah.. i see |
| 00:51.19 | k-man_ | good point |
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| 00:53.46 | k-man_ | kriebel and abrotman thanks for setting me straight :) |
| 00:53.52 | kriebel | np |
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| 00:55.20 | octox2 | any good programs besides kopete that you can use a webcam on that woeks wirh v4l ? |
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| 00:55.35 | octox2 | kopete wont work with my cam |
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| 00:56.01 | simonrvn | damog: /msg ? |
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| 00:58.21 | jon_ | how is it possible to see the graphical installer for etch? |
| 00:58.44 | kriebel | what do you mean see? |
| 00:58.45 | kriebel | use? |
| 00:58.57 | kriebel | or see a picture of it to see if you like it? |
| 00:59.01 | abrotman | jon_: hit F1 .. tells you how to start it |
| 00:59.03 | damog | dances |
| 00:59.12 | jon_ | probably use without actually installing, playing with, -n, etc |
| 00:59.47 | kriebel | then you might want to play with qemu |
| 00:59.52 | kriebel | since it really just installs debian |
| 01:00.01 | kriebel | so running the installer without installing isn't practical |
| 01:00.30 | simonrvn | or useful |
| 01:00.45 | jon_ | I guess that's ok, I have free space not in any LV |
| 01:01.07 | jon_ | well it's useful to me, to satisfy my curiousity |
| 01:01.35 | simonrvn | 'curiosity'. well, true =). |
| 01:02.08 | jon_ | which shows 'useful' is a relative and context dependent term :) |
| 01:02.51 | simonrvn | ;) |
| 01:03.46 | jon_ | abrotman: ok, will do... now if I do a xen system can I boot an install image as a xen domU? |
| 01:03.46 | dustybin | sniffs simonrvn packets |
| 01:04.18 | abrotman | jon_: not sure if etch supports that .. http://wiki.debian.org/Xen |
| 01:04.41 | simonrvn | sends a echo "go find someone else to sniff skript kiddie" | nc -p 1025 |
| 01:05.02 | jon_ | that probably wouldn't be practical anyway as it's too much work if the reason is to see how it's different |
| 01:05.23 | dustybin | recieves: go find someone else to sniff skript kiddie |
| 01:05.44 | simonrvn | LOLs |
| 01:05.48 | abrotman | jon_: there are a few websites that have screenshots |
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| 01:06.01 | simonrvn | s,few,several, |
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| 01:06.34 | simonrvn | 's regex skillz sux0rs |
| 01:08.22 | jon_ | so in order for that to work the installer would have to have a kernel with xen support patched/enabled |
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| 01:09.50 | jon_ | what are some of the relevent differences between xen and qemu? |
| 01:10.17 | abrotman | one is emulation .. one is virtualization ? |
| 01:10.24 | simonrvn | don't need special kernel for qemu |
| 01:10.33 | jon_ | ahh |
| 01:10.54 | simonrvn | main one is what abrotman said |
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| 01:11.24 | CWii | How do you change the monitor hz for x from the shell in single user mode? |
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| 01:11.58 | jon_ | edit the config file? or run a program that does so? |
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| 01:12.08 | CWii | But what file? |
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| 01:12.37 | jon_ | depends on the xserver you're using but likely it's /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 01:12.47 | simonrvn | !drxx CWii |
| 01:12.47 | dpkg | CWii: To reconfigure your X server, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as root. If you're not using Xorg (sarge or earlier), dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, and ask me about xmd5sum if you've changed XF86Config-4 yourself. |
| 01:12.59 | CWii | Thank you. |
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| 01:20.38 | hikenboot | anyone know how to get ride of gpg error EB020D4677AFC5B7 for deb http://debian.space-based.de/debs/ experimental main |
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| 01:21.57 | adama | hikenboot: /topic |
| 01:22.00 | simonrvn | get their key, add it to apt-key... (/msg dpkg apt-key KEYIDHERE) |
| 01:22.31 | preds` | longish file ownership question.. I'm writing a script to do an svn checkout on one machine, tar the files and scp them to a production machine |
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| 01:22.55 | adama | browser incompatibility depresses me... how can we get everyone to use Firefox? |
| 01:23.05 | preds` | I've added myself to the group the code runs as on the remote machine so I can unpack the files |
| 01:23.20 | preds` | however they end up being owned by myself rather than the user that the code is meant to run as |
| 01:23.28 | adama | preds` you should use svn export not checkout |
| 01:23.36 | abrotman | adama: make it crash less? |
| 01:23.40 | adama | do a chown on the remote? |
| 01:23.45 | preds` | adama: I am using export |
| 01:23.49 | adama | ok |
| 01:23.58 | preds` | sorry I used the wrong word |
| 01:24.04 | adama | abrotman: am working on that.. |
| 01:24.08 | jon_ | what's the difference? |
| 01:24.08 | preds` | however, I'm trying to do this without using root privs |
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| 01:25.01 | adama | jon_: checkout allows checking back in, and includes a lot of unnecessary files for what he's doing (.svn folders) |
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| 01:25.19 | preds` | so is there a way to untar the files so they're owned by a diff user without escalating to root privs? |
| 01:25.23 | jon_ | so he doesn't need to check out |
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| 01:25.33 | preds` | I tried adding the files to the tar with -c but that only works if I untar the files as root |
| 01:25.42 | linkmaster03 | so when i try to install amarok |
| 01:25.44 | jon_ | first off the only way to chown is as root |
| 01:25.47 | linkmaster03 | Err http://ftp.us.debian.org lenny/main libruby1.8 1.8.7.22-3 404 Not Found [IP: 128.30.2.36 80] |
| 01:25.58 | linkmaster03 | tons of those lines come up |
| 01:26.01 | abrotman | linkmaster03: aptitude update .. try again |
| 01:26.02 | jon_ | who owns the dir you're putting it in? |
| 01:26.07 | linkmaster03 | oshi |
| 01:26.16 | preds` | jon_: the user I want the code to be run as |
| 01:26.22 | preds` | but I added myself to the group |
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| 01:26.28 | preds` | which is why I have write perms |
| 01:26.35 | jon_ | try setting the folder's setgid bit |
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| 01:27.04 | preds` | will I find details on that in chown? |
| 01:27.15 | linkmaster03 | lol abrotman thanks |
| 01:27.15 | preds` | (man chown) |
| 01:27.20 | jon_ | no, becasue it's chmod |
| 01:27.40 | preds` | okay thanks, having a look |
| 01:28.01 | jon_ | I'm not sure this will have the effect you want... but it's worth a try |
| 01:28.19 | jon_ | also, different OSes interpret this bit differently |
| 01:28.39 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | is there a way i can install all the packages from /var/cache/apt/archives ? that will save a lot of my download time when i format my pc |
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| 01:30.00 | abrotman | sh4d3sl4y3r_: dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb |
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| 01:30.32 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | that will install all of them together? |
| 01:31.09 | djs | Hoping someone here could help me. Atheros 5213 on etchnhalf, ath5k that came installed is not getting me wireless, and the guide here did not work either, and I followed the directions exactly http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/Distro/Debian/MadWifi . |
| 01:31.38 | abrotman | djs: the ath5k is still kind of sketchy .. does it support your card ? |
| 01:31.46 | djs | On another distro, madwifi worked perfectly, so I know the hardware and back end support was done right. |
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| 01:32.53 | djs | According to this, it is supported - http://madwifi.org/wiki/Chipsets#a5213 |
| 01:32.57 | CWii | Well I got X to work :P |
| 01:33.10 | hikenboot | since a gpg key appears not to be available on a trusted source how do i ignore gpg errors with aptitude install |
| 01:33.13 | CWii | But my res is stuck at 680. |
| 01:35.42 | abrotman | and your video card is? |
| 01:35.49 | abrotman | hikenboot: what's the key? |
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| 01:36.13 | hikenboot | http://www.ask.com/fr?u=http%3A%2F%2Freverso2.com%2Fri45r%2FASP%2Furl%2Fresult.asp%3Fdirections%3D1031%241033%241%26autotranslate%3Don%26motsinconnus%3Dfalse%26templates%3DGeneral%26url%3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwiki.debianforum.de%2FInitNG&s=a&srcl=de&tarl=en&bu=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ask.com%2Fweb%3Fq%3Dpgp%2Bdeb%2Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fdebian.space-based.de%252Fdebs%252F%2Bexperimental%2Bmain%26o%3D0%26l%3Ddir%26page%3D1%26dm%3Dlang%26advl%3D%26advc% |
| 01:36.13 | hikenboot | 3D&q=pgp+deb+http%3A%2F%2Fdebian.space-based.de%2Fdebs%2F+experimental+main&o=0&l=dir&qt=0&ac=30&dm=lang&ou=http%3A%2F%2Fwiki.debianforum.de%2FInitNG&ma=Translation%20ofGerman&mt=This%20page%20was%20translated%20automatically%20fromhttp%3A%2F%2Fwiki.debianforum.de%2FInitNG&mb= |
| 01:36.18 | hikenboot | oops sorry |
| 01:36.23 | djs | Man |
| 01:36.28 | hikenboot | didnt realize it was so long |
| 01:36.31 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | !man |
| 01:36.31 | dpkg | [man] a little guy that knows everything about linux... just do man <commandname> and he will teach you all about <commandname>,a Municipal Area Network (city), or check ASD @ http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/asd/ |
| 01:36.32 | djs | That is one heck of a url |
| 01:36.41 | abrotman | sh4d3sl4y3r_: please stop with the bot |
| 01:36.48 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | : S |
| 01:36.52 | abrotman | hikenboot: that still doesn't tell me which key itis |
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| 01:37.08 | hikenboot | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:37.15 | tu | man girls |
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| 01:37.17 | intx | does grub have anything like lilo -R? |
| 01:37.34 | abrotman | !apt-key 77AFC5B7 |
| 01:37.34 | dpkg | gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 77AFC5B7 ; gpg --export 77AFC5B7 | sudo apt-key add - |
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| 01:38.59 | hikenboot | thanks a bunch abrotman...sorry for the flooding |
| 01:39.15 | CWii | abrotman, It's a Nvidia 9600 GT, sorry for the delay |
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| 01:40.12 | abrotman | CWii: you probably need some fancy nvidia driver |
| 01:40.20 | CWii | Hm. |
| 01:40.24 | CWii | Okay, I'll try that. |
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| 01:40.52 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | when wil nvidia make their drivers open source >_> |
| 01:40.56 | djs | abrotman: Any guides you know on how to use ath5k? Google has just shown me people having problems or wanting features. |
| 01:41.03 | abrotman | djs: just the website |
| 01:41.03 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | its a pain for everybody, no out of the box support |
| 01:41.17 | abrotman | sh4d3sl4y3r_: complain to them .. not us |
| 01:41.32 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | i am saying in general , not complaining :P |
| 01:41.45 | preds` | jon_: I set the setuid and setgid bits for the script which does the untaring which works great. Thanks for the help :) |
| 01:45.04 | lem0n | http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Bill_O%27Reilly_hacked_2008 |
| 01:45.10 | abrotman | lem0n: wrong channel |
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| 01:50.28 | chrome | I've been googling for a bit but it seems inconclusive; does anyone have debian amd64 booting on an apple xserve (intel + efi)? |
| 01:51.17 | chrome | I'm involved in a project thats getting some xserves cheap, but we would rather run debian, but it seems as if the EFI stuff isn't very mature yet. |
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| 01:52.28 | abrotman | chrome: does it work with i386? |
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| 01:52.37 | abrotman | (there is #debian-amd64 on OFTC) |
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| 01:53.26 | chrome | abrotman: I've heard it does; but the machines are going to have 16GB ram |
| 01:53.45 | abrotman | there is a -bigmem for i386 |
| 01:53.50 | chrome | apparently i386 + ia64 works, but amd64 doesn't. |
| 01:53.56 | abrotman | ia64 wouldn't work on those |
| 01:54.06 | chrome | no I mean, EFI booting does. |
| 01:54.12 | abrotman | oh ok |
| 01:54.45 | chrome | if its a matter of just getting stuff to compile or getting a developer interested, I can pay a bounty for the work |
| 01:55.05 | abrotman | i'd ask the -amd64 channel |
| 01:55.08 | abrotman | curses the new acpi |
| 01:55.10 | chrome | sounds like a plan |
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| 01:55.18 | djs | abrotman: Well, I followed that guide, to no avail. So, do I need to disable/remove ath5k before trying madwifi, and is that guide at http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/Distro/Debian/MadWifi the right way to go? I tried it once before, and it did not work. |
| 01:55.23 | chrome | whats the roundrobin address for oftc? |
| 01:55.31 | chrome | *dns name |
| 01:55.39 | abrotman | irc.oftc.net |
| 01:55.59 | abrotman | djs: you'd blacklist ath5k if you don't want to try it that way |
| 01:56.12 | djs | Gotcha |
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| 01:58.24 | abrotman | chrome: there is an efi-reader .. does that help ? |
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| 01:59.05 | abrotman | chrome: http://blog.technologeek.org/2006/11/26/34 .. any help there? |
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| 01:59.25 | abrotman | chrome: seems like a fun thing to do :) |
| 01:59.36 | chrome | sort of; read that post also |
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| 01:59.55 | chrome | apparently the difficulty is that there is some missing stuff in the xserve EFI firmware |
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| 02:00.32 | abrotman | so that guy seems to have cheated :) |
| 02:00.47 | K|NgGh0sT | I use this computer for a HTPC and basically I think the DPI isn't right and I was wondering what DPI I should use because all the text is awfully small |
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| 02:02.02 | Sling | K|NgGh0sT experiment a bit with it? |
| 02:02.11 | Sling | we cant judge from here what DPI would be best for your use |
| 02:02.41 | chrome | abrotman: I am probably just going to have to suck it and see |
| 02:03.05 | intx | K|NgGh0sT higher dpi = larger text |
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| 02:03.28 | jon_ | higher dpi == smaller text |
| 02:03.57 | K|NgGh0sT | hrmm, okay |
| 02:04.05 | chrome | or, higher dpi == more detailed text :P |
| 02:04.32 | jon_ | chrome: true enough -if- you bump the font size |
| 02:04.39 | chrome | yup :) |
| 02:04.44 | chrome | or if your OS scales everything |
| 02:04.48 | chrome | which none do |
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| 02:27.14 | Elite | Anyone here? |
| 02:27.18 | dcsimon | yup |
| 02:27.23 | Elite | can you help me? |
| 02:27.30 | jon_ | dunno |
| 02:27.36 | jon_ | what do you want |
| 02:28.05 | Elite | I got got a VPS server running debain and apache isn't working, its installed but I dunno why it won't show anything in a web browser |
| 02:28.23 | jetscreamer | try #apache at the same time |
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| 02:28.42 | jon_ | your first line of defense is the apache error and access logs |
| 02:28.57 | Sling | yea come to #apache , ill take a look there |
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| 02:29.17 | wireddd | ok, so I want to watch a dvd in kaffiene, I have all of the packages I need installed I believe (libdvdnav4 libdvdcss2 libdvdread3 libdvd0 and libxine1-all-pluggins) and I can browse the dvd in konqueror, but kaffiene says that either I don't have a disc in the drive or I don't have permission |
| 02:29.41 | jetscreamer | adduser user cdrom maybe, and video |
| 02:29.48 | jetscreamer | not sure |
| 02:29.54 | wireddd | hmm |
| 02:30.09 | jetscreamer | actually you don't need to mount a dvd, so maybe not |
| 02:30.10 | jon_ | I've never been in the maybe group! |
| 02:30.25 | jetscreamer | i'm a founding father of that group :) |
| 02:30.35 | wireddd | well I might as well add myself anyway |
| 02:30.47 | dcsimon | but you still need to access the /dev/cdrom file |
| 02:30.48 | jetscreamer | might be the video one, not sure what that does though |
| 02:31.13 | jetscreamer | probably not 'enables user to watch a pron video' |
| 02:31.20 | jon_ | lets you show music videow? |
| 02:31.32 | wireddd | jetscreamer: that would be adduser user pron? |
| 02:31.39 | jetscreamer | :) |
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| 02:32.23 | wireddd | dpkg: pron is adduser user pron |
| 02:32.23 | dpkg | wireddd: okay |
| 02:32.55 | jon_ | after you add yourself make sure (with groups) you're in that group |
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| 02:33.05 | wireddd | I have to logout before this takes effect right? |
| 02:33.13 | jon_ | correct |
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| 02:34.16 | jon_ | then after logging back in, groups should show the new groups too |
| 02:36.05 | wireddd | yup |
| 02:36.38 | wireddd | someone should add the adduser user video thing in to dpkg's "dvd playback troubleshooting" thing |
| 02:37.09 | wireddd | it works now |
| 02:37.34 | dcsimon | aren't users a member of video by default usually? |
| 02:37.41 | wireddd | I wasn't |
| 02:37.57 | wireddd | on the computer I just installed |
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| 02:38.48 | wireddd | I have one other problem, my display goes into powersave every 5 minutes or so if the keyboard/mouse is inactive (which is not fun while watching a movie) |
| 02:38.58 | jon_ | at one point, base-files was removed... is it back? |
| 02:39.11 | wireddd | the bios doesn't seem to be doing it, and it isn't in kde's screen saver config |
| 02:39.18 | dcsimon | change your xorg.conf file |
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| 02:39.38 | wireddd | is that the default? |
| 02:39.57 | dcsimon | should be some options like "OffTime 5" or something |
| 02:40.35 | dcsimon | these are DPPMS or "Power Saving" options, just change them to fit what you want, or remove them totally |
| 02:40.37 | jetscreamer | the first user is |
| 02:40.38 | sdps | Suggestions please: If I wanted to set up my music collection for remote access and streaming (that is, the client(s) request the songs to be played), what server software might I use? The only one I see that comes close is VLC, but it's more 'push' it seems than 'pull'. If my gf is in her office and she wants Bach while I want Oakenfold in the garage, what, if anything, offers that fxnality? |
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| 02:40.48 | abrotman | mpd |
| 02:40.53 | jetscreamer | at least the one created in the installer is |
| 02:40.53 | wireddd | well my xorg.conf is pretty empty |
| 02:41.02 | jetscreamer | yeah that's the new xorg |
| 02:41.05 | wireddd | I am trying to let it autodetect as much as possible |
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| 02:41.32 | jetscreamer | man xscreensaver-command iirc |
| 02:41.34 | chrome | sdps: just share the music files over the network using SMB or NFS. |
| 02:41.34 | amine | Hello. I have a dedicated machine that I want to setup mailing on for my primary email - can anyone recommend a gmail-like interface that I can use? |
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| 02:42.12 | kriebel | amine, roundcube |
| 02:42.13 | wireddd | I guess I will just dig through the docs till I find out how to disable it completely (hooked up to a tv, so powersave mode is pointless) |
| 02:42.30 | jon_ | if you change the setting in the xorg.conf file, look at dpkg bot drxx factoid for the md5sum thing you do to make dpkg-reconfigure keep your hand settings |
| 02:42.48 | amine | kriebel: hey, have you used it yourself? |
| 02:42.54 | kriebel | amine, yes |
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| 02:43.18 | kriebel | it's mildly ajax and looks really slick |
| 02:43.29 | kriebel | but I don't have the time to talk you through setting it up |
| 02:43.40 | amine | kriebel: I'll manage, thank you |
| 02:43.42 | jetscreamer | man xscreensaver-command |
| 02:43.46 | jetscreamer | wireddd: |
| 02:43.47 | amine | kriebel: what backend mail server did you use? |
| 02:43.56 | kriebel | postfix |
| 02:43.58 | jetscreamer | or do you mean console |
| 02:44.04 | jetscreamer | if so, setterm |
| 02:44.04 | jon_ | mild ajax... stinky rose... military intelligence... alone together... |
| 02:44.06 | jetscreamer | iirc |
| 02:44.23 | kriebel | jon_: would you prefer DHTML? |
| 02:44.30 | kriebel | I'm not sure it really is AJAX |
| 02:44.48 | jon_ | I'm just playing with the words |
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| 02:45.22 | kriebel | amine, the IMAP server is much more closely connected to the webmail program |
| 02:45.24 | jon_ | and "mild ajax" refers to ajax the detergent which is anything but mild |
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| 02:45.43 | kriebel | in that case, my friend has set up courier and dovecot |
| 02:46.30 | sdps | Kk, I guess my search continues.. there's got to me something more elegant than NFS or SMB shares. :-/ Peace all and thanks for the suggestion chrome. /nod |
| 02:46.53 | amine | kriebel: I just don't want my mail to end up in spam folder when I send it |
| 02:47.20 | amine | kriebel: that's my only worry. I'll read up on courier and set it up with roundcube. Thanks again |
| 02:50.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | amine, your nick sounds as if you were a chemist |
| 02:50.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | ... a smelly chemist, for that matter :) |
| 02:50.48 | Elite | Is there an SSH channel anyone kinows of? |
| 02:51.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, no - think I searched for one once as well |
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| 02:51.35 | Kumool | CutMeOwnThroat: your name sounds like suicide :P |
| 02:51.39 | Elite | there is openssh I guess |
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| 02:51.53 | qq- | yes, /j #ssh |
| 02:51.54 | abrotman | any of you have a gnome-ish lenny box that could confirm a bug for me? |
| 02:52.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | Kumool, not really /msg dpkg dibbler if you care to know |
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| 02:53.07 | amine | CutMeOwnThroat: I am a chemist |
| 02:53.16 | jon_ | still... the nick is the first thing you see :) |
| 02:53.27 | abrotman | hey .. i have an actual question here! |
| 02:53.48 | amine | abrotman: no |
| 02:53.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | abrotman, well, spit it out - I can possibly upgrade/install the package |
| 02:54.00 | amine | abrotman: I run archlinux at home (with gnome).. I can try |
| 02:54.03 | Kumool | ha! what are the chances CutMeOwnThroat it still sounds so |
| 02:54.09 | jetscreamer | #openssh maybe |
| 02:54.24 | abrotman | CutMeOwnThroat: i don't want you to have to download a ton of stuff which is why i asked about a gnome-ish person |
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| 02:54.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | abrotman, just say what it is and I'll see if it's "a ton" or just 2-3 packages |
| 02:54.52 | jetscreamer | what's the bug |
| 02:54.58 | abrotman | it crashes :) |
| 02:54.59 | jetscreamer | !tell abrotman -about anybody |
| 02:55.00 | jetscreamer | :) |
| 02:55.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | and -about ask |
| 02:55.15 | abrotman | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:55.17 | amine | By the way, can someone recommend a way to setup mail accounts without creating the actual user on the machine? |
| 02:55.32 | jon_ | the best way is to ask to ask to ask to ask to ask to ask! |
| 02:55.34 | abrotman | amine: many smtp servers can work with a database |
| 02:56.05 | jetscreamer | mine's not 'that' gnomish |
| 02:56.06 | Elite | Can anyone help me with SSH here? |
| 02:56.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | abrotman, 0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, ... |
| 02:56.25 | amine | Elite: what is your problem? |
| 02:56.25 | begemot | Guys, have you ever tryed a Genie? |
| 02:56.26 | begemot | http://live.gnome.org/Genie |
| 02:56.27 | abrotman | CutMeOwnThroat: you're better off than i was ... i had to get like 20 |
| 02:56.35 | abrotman | begemot: this is #debian .. not #gnome |
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| 02:56.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | abrotman, so what am I supposed to run from that? |
| 02:56.48 | amine | abrotman: I don't know any :( |
| 02:56.51 | begemot | i know, but can i use it in Debian? |
| 02:56.59 | Elite | amine: I want to install a web hosting control panel on my server how do I use SSH to dl and install it? |
| 02:57.08 | abrotman | begemot: seems to be its own livecd |
| 02:57.19 | abrotman | CutMeOwnThroat: uhm .. when i type in a URL .. and hit enter .. it dies |
| 02:57.36 | faileas | Elite: same way you would in the system itself from command line >_> |
| 02:57.40 | jetscreamer | ooo look at that bugreport! |
| 02:57.44 | boolean12 | what webpanel? |
| 02:57.48 | jetscreamer | :) j/k dude |
| 02:57.50 | begemot | "abrotman: begemot: this is #debian .. not #gnome" |
| 02:57.50 | begemot | And isn't it an offtopic channel? |
| 02:57.50 | Elite | faileas: I don't know how I am new to this |
| 02:57.51 | abrotman | jetscreamer: i saw it ... but it's not quite the same |
| 02:57.52 | amine | Elite: I'm assuming you are on windows.. download Putty (ssh client) |
| 02:57.58 | jon_ | Elite: there's not a person here that can even know whether they can respond to you usefully without you being specific about the problem you're having |
| 02:58.02 | abrotman | begemot: that would be #debian-offtopic ? |
| 02:58.06 | Elite | amine: I have it and am logged in I just installed apache |
| 02:58.18 | boolean12 | I'd suggest webmin |
| 02:58.19 | faileas | Elite: what web panel, and is it in the repos? |
| 02:58.22 | amine | Elite: use 'wget' to download from teh web |
| 02:58.24 | boolean12 | it's in the package system. |
| 02:58.26 | abrotman | do not use webmin |
| 02:58.26 | jetscreamer | !lart boolean12 |
| 02:58.26 | dpkg | smacks boolean12 up side the head with a clue-by-4 |
| 02:58.28 | abrotman | boolean12: no it's not |
| 02:58.30 | boolean12 | O.O |
| 02:58.31 | jetscreamer | !webmin |
| 02:58.31 | dpkg | webmin is, like, a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/ Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/12/msg00790.html about the removal. Don't use their .debs, they are of extremely poor quality. |
| 02:58.39 | Elite | isp-CP |
| 02:58.40 | abrotman | begemot: sorry .. should have read .. i thought it was a livecd |
| 02:58.42 | begemot | I thought this channel is for Debian users talking obut various themes... |
| 02:58.47 | boolean12 | ooh, I've got ispcp installed on another box. |
| 02:58.50 | boolean12 | Good setup. |
| 02:58.52 | faileas | Elite: is there a deb, or in the repos? |
| 02:59.00 | Elite | deb? |
| 02:59.06 | boolean12 | I compiled my webmin o.o |
| 02:59.06 | abrotman | there is no webmin in debian |
| 02:59.16 | boolean12 | one second |
| 02:59.20 | jetscreamer | d/l it from sarge sources! |
| 02:59.21 | abrotman | webmin is an utter pile of crap ... no one should use it |
| 02:59.21 | jetscreamer | :) |
| 02:59.27 | amine | Elite: aptitude search ispCP |
| 02:59.29 | abrotman | begemot: i don't see it in lenny |
| 02:59.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | abrotman, haha... Kazehakase is a browser - and ... it seems this plugin doesn't need it as a dependency... that's why it was only two packages :) cute |
| 02:59.42 | begemot | Ouch! This is debian, not webmin channel!!! |
| 02:59.44 | abrotman | CutMeOwnThroat: well .. besides that |
| 03:00.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | abrotman, the browser itself is another 15 packages, so we're even |
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| 03:00.08 | Elite | amine: I am dling the zip now |
| 03:00.09 | begemot | And it's not about browsers too! |
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| 03:00.22 | Elite | now how do I unzip it?:P |
| 03:00.27 | abrotman | begemot: do you want help or not? |
| 03:00.29 | jetscreamer | man unzip |
| 03:00.31 | abrotman | CutMeOwnThroat: ah ok |
| 03:00.39 | begemot | This is not about archivers!!! It's about Debian!!! |
| 03:00.41 | amine | jetscreamer: I'll pass |
| 03:00.45 | abrotman | CutMeOwnThroat: i guess i should have had you specify that .. i knew that |
| 03:00.51 | abrotman | begemot: stop .. it's not funny |
| 03:00.52 | begemot | Am i right, abrotman? |
| 03:00.58 | jetscreamer | you look like a file-roller kind of guy... use fileroller |
| 03:01.41 | Elite | okay I have it dled gotta get it unzipped now :) |
| 03:01.42 | jetscreamer | to unzip it |
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| 03:01.59 | Elite | jetscreamer? |
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| 03:02.05 | Elite | to unzip it what? |
| 03:02.07 | begemot | I would change the topic from #debian-offtopic to #abrotman-sheeteater, how's that? |
| 03:02.08 | jetscreamer | ^^ |
| 03:02.09 | abrotman | CutMeOwnThroat: for me .. instant death |
| 03:02.12 | abrotman | begemot: STOP |
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| 03:02.23 | Elite | use 'man unzip'? |
| 03:02.24 | abrotman | begemot: ask your question or be quiet |
| 03:02.29 | jetscreamer | lower |
| 03:02.44 | jetscreamer | right before you repeated your question the second time |
| 03:03.39 | boolean12 | join #debian-offtopic |
| 03:03.39 | boolean12 | .. |
| 03:03.39 | jetscreamer | [22.00.56] <jetscreamer> you look like a file-roller kind of guy... use fileroller [22.01.40] <Elite> okay I have it dled gotta get it unzipped now :) |
| 03:03.46 | Elite | fire roller? |
| 03:04.01 | Elite | jetscreamer, pm? |
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| 03:04.05 | abrotman | CutMeOwnThroat: any implosion yet? |
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| 03:04.12 | jetscreamer | !info file-roller |
| 03:04.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | abrotman, yes, same here - just uninstalling the plugin to see if it works without it |
| 03:04.30 | abrotman | CutMeOwnThroat: the deps are messed up .. and it dies badly |
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| 03:04.34 | dpkg | file-roller: (an archive manager for GNOME), section gnome, is optional. Version: 2.22.4-2 (sid), Packaged size: 1098 kB, Installed size: 5112 kB |
| 03:05.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | abrotman, yes - removing the plugin also removed the browser (wtf?!) - but installing it again without the plugin and it doesn't die instantly |
| 03:05.31 | abrotman | eh .. weird |
| 03:05.44 | Elite | jetscreamer, pm? |
| 03:05.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | pain-moderated |
| 03:06.00 | jetscreamer | just ask here |
| 03:06.08 | abrotman | CutMeOwnThroat: i'll try to figure out moire tomorrow i think |
| 03:06.27 | jetscreamer | chances are somebody will know more than me |
| 03:06.36 | jetscreamer | remote i know, but still, maybe... :) |
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| 03:06.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | jetscreamer, hehe... I know that feeling |
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| 03:07.17 | EpicPanda1 | I just installed etch. I have a FX-60(dual core) processor, but /proc/cpuinfo is only showing one processor. As far as I can remember each core showed up a entry, is this new? |
| 03:07.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | EpicPanda1, yes |
| 03:07.49 | jetscreamer | EpicPanda1: i believe all the kernels are not smp enabled in etch, (as in lenny) |
| 03:07.56 | jetscreamer | get a -smp one? |
| 03:07.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | er - I mean yes each core shows up as a processor |
| 03:08.01 | jetscreamer | (not sure but i think so) |
| 03:08.30 | EpicPanda1 | well, the fx-60 isn't staying in it, but I just wanted to clarify. It's because it's not a SMP kernel? |
| 03:08.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | ooh, etch, yes, I also think that still has the -smp flavors |
| 03:08.39 | jetscreamer | apt-cache search linux-image |grep smp |
| 03:08.54 | jetscreamer | EpicPanda1: if it's not an smp kernel, yes that's why |
| 03:09.08 | qq- | abrotman: kazehakase: Erreur de segmentation on sid too |
| 03:09.09 | EpicPanda1 | gotcha |
| 03:09.11 | jetscreamer | see also uname -a or uname -r |
| 03:09.18 | jetscreamer | in console or xterm |
| 03:09.20 | EpicPanda1 | it's etchnhalf.1-486 |
| 03:09.27 | EpicPanda1 | wow not even 64bit, what the heck did I download |
| 03:09.39 | jetscreamer | a default installer kernel |
| 03:09.49 | jetscreamer | now you have a backup :) |
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| 03:09.58 | jetscreamer | apt-cache search linux-image |grep smp |
| 03:10.01 | jetscreamer | then pick one |
| 03:10.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | EpicPanda1, is it a server or a Desktop? |
| 03:10.05 | jetscreamer | and install |
| 03:10.21 | EpicPanda1 | it's a desktop that's about to be a server |
| 03:10.29 | EpicPanda1 | I'm not going to install a X server on it, it's going to be headless |
| 03:10.34 | jetscreamer | it's a 32bit userland eh |
| 03:10.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | ok |
| 03:10.49 | EpicPanda1 | I'll just get another iso |
| 03:10.53 | jetscreamer | (just pointing it out, not suggesting) |
| 03:11.08 | jetscreamer | you can run a 64bit kernel in 32bit userspace |
| 03:11.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | EpicPanda1, just because for a Desktop, you cannot have the non-free nvidia binary drivers (if you have nvidia) and a 65bit-kernel on a 32-bit userland |
| 03:11.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | s/65/64/ |
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| 03:11.43 | jetscreamer | actually i think there's a way, but you have to work at it |
| 03:11.45 | EpicPanda1 | I should probably get a testing image |
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| 03:11.52 | jetscreamer | basically yes what he said |
| 03:11.56 | abrotman | qq-: but you're on sidux right? |
| 03:12.23 | jetscreamer | EpicPanda1: if it's going to be a production server, stay with stable |
| 03:12.25 | jetscreamer | imo |
| 03:12.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | jetscreamer, dunno, about a year ago, there was no way (for me) |
| 03:12.28 | jetscreamer | ymmv |
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| 03:12.51 | EpicPanda1 | Nah, it's not production. In fact all it's going to do is share cifs and run irssi in screen >.> |
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| 03:13.08 | abrotman | CutMeOwnThroat: FWIW .. i get a ton of GTK ASSERT failures |
| 03:13.45 | qq- | abrotman: not really |
| 03:13.54 | EpicPanda1 | I like up to date packages. Debian has a reputation for it's stable releases to be a tad bit dusty |
| 03:14.03 | abrotman | qq-: you are or you aren't |
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| 03:14.16 | qq- | no |
| 03:14.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | abrotman, with the plugin, it just crashed immediately, I think - now, without I'm getting Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_widget_destroy: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed |
| 03:14.47 | abrotman | goofy .. i'll try a few combos tomorrow |
| 03:15.22 | jetscreamer | EpicPanda1: me i can't stand anything but sid nowadays... |
| 03:15.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | abrotman, ah, not true - I got them before also - but that just shows that that is something unrelated |
| 03:15.44 | abrotman | jetscreamer: but you're from texas |
| 03:15.55 | jetscreamer | thank god |
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| 03:15.58 | EpicPanda1 | I'm also from Texas, haha |
| 03:16.23 | jetscreamer | i'd sound funny with a yankee accent |
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| 03:16.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | does that mean you ride cows to work and shoot your coworkers if they give lip? |
| 03:16.44 | EpicPanda1 | jetscreamer - did ike cause you any hell? I was without power for a week :S |
| 03:16.55 | jetscreamer | no, it means i'm one of the fastest on the road and shoot employee's |
| 03:17.01 | mydrmeix | what are my options for yahoo channel voice chat? |
| 03:17.09 | jetscreamer | not the fastest car, just go the fastest ;) |
| 03:17.20 | jetscreamer | well i try to stay like 3rd or 7th really |
| 03:17.54 | jetscreamer | EpicPanda1: i still don't have power |
| 03:18.09 | EpicPanda1 | Bah, I guess you're in Houston too |
| 03:18.18 | jetscreamer | and my fence is down, so i have to watch the dogs |
| 03:18.20 | jetscreamer | yeah |
| 03:18.55 | EpicPanda1 | those blue color charts are so wrong |
| 03:18.57 | jetscreamer | mydrmeix: 'probably' maybe pidgin |
| 03:19.04 | EpicPanda1 | centerpoint has no clue of when people will have power back |
| 03:19.04 | jetscreamer | not sure |
| 03:19.42 | jetscreamer | yeah .. and get this: they called me at 3:07 am this morning(automated) saying 'if you don't have power, please call... |
| 03:20.08 | EpicPanda1 | I thought they only wanted downed power line reportings.. hmm |
| 03:20.11 | beardy | "If you don't have phone, call." is better. |
| 03:20.40 | jon_ | just as long as they find the any key, they can also find the any other key |
| 03:21.03 | jetscreamer | EpicPanda1: i have yet to see any trucks here where i live, and there are lots of apt's around.. many ppl. i did see a pickup pass by once. i was in river oaks the other day, all i saw was truck after truck working on the power |
| 03:21.06 | EpicPanda1 | Man, it was so weird.. When they turned my power back on, cell reception went back to normal, and internet came back. I think centerpoint deliberately took people off the grid to minimize fire risk |
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| 03:21.20 | EpicPanda1 | River Oak.. LOL |
| 03:21.21 | I-hate-mason-gay | hi |
| 03:21.36 | I-hate-mason-gay | I just deleted a file accidentally using rm -r filename |
| 03:21.40 | EpicPanda1 | My buddy in the Heights still doesn't have power, meh |
| 03:21.46 | I-hate-mason-gay | Is it possible to retrieve it |
| 03:22.00 | jon_ | restore it from your backup |
| 03:22.00 | jetscreamer | you heard the head of the emergency stuff at centerpoint was vactioning in hawaii eh |
| 03:22.10 | EpicPanda1 | oh god |
| 03:22.24 | jetscreamer | some radio station called him up and busted him on the beach, live :) |
| 03:22.43 | EpicPanda1 | lmao! |
| 03:23.06 | EpicPanda1 | Yeah 740 ktrh was the only thing keeping me sane with the power out. With the towers down my iphone was even useless.. |
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| 03:23.19 | jetscreamer | mason whatever.. probably not |
| 03:23.27 | I-hate-mason-gay | jon_, no, I just made the file and completed it, and then deleted it |
| 03:23.27 | jon_ | if he was vacationing, the company should have had an acting head |
| 03:23.39 | jon_ | make it again |
| 03:23.41 | jetscreamer | he should have cut his vaction short |
| 03:23.52 | jetscreamer | vacation |
| 03:24.07 | jon_ | I wouln't have without the company offering me very serious money |
| 03:24.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | I-hate-mason-gay, yes - backups... you have them, right? Else: hardly -start with mounting the partition read-only (mount /your/partition -o remount,ro) - if it's a (smallish) textfile you can then try to search through the disk content - also google for "ext3 undeletion" if it's an ext3 filesystem (any chances you have besides backup depend heavily on the filesystem) |
| 03:24.21 | jetscreamer | heh... like he doesn't make serious money? |
| 03:24.38 | EpicPanda1 | I don't think the head guy means much with lines down; the 15,000 electrical workers in the Houston area mean more |
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| 03:24.57 | jon_ | by that logic tho, noone should ever take a vacation |
| 03:25.11 | I-hate-mason-gay | CutMeOwnThroat, ok, thanks, I will try it |
| 03:25.27 | jetscreamer | yeah ok |
| 03:25.35 | EpicPanda1 | and lmao @ the internet shortage we caused |
| 03:25.39 | EpicPanda1 | Texas has too much bandwidth |
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| 03:25.47 | jetscreamer | it would be stupid for somebody to do their job |
| 03:26.20 | jetscreamer | emergency... |
| 03:26.24 | jetscreamer | anyway |
| 03:26.29 | jetscreamer | goes away |
| 03:26.43 | jon_ | if the company did not put someone to replace the guy while he was on vacation, it's not the vacationer's fault |
| 03:27.10 | EpicPanda1 | they've responded promptly, but there's still ~1 million without power |
| 03:27.22 | jetscreamer | if the head of the emergency division can't cut his vaction short when there's an emergency, well i guess you're right |
| 03:27.49 | jon_ | someone should be on hand to handle the emergency |
| 03:27.50 | jetscreamer | wonder how that works with war |
| 03:27.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | jon_, you mean they should fire him during his vacation and put someone else on? :) |
| 03:28.02 | jetscreamer | someone was |
| 03:28.06 | jetscreamer | i still don't have power |
| 03:28.10 | jon_ | no, someone should take his role while on vacation |
| 03:28.48 | jon_ | wars should never happen... |
| 03:28.58 | EpicPanda1 | hay everybody lets bomb for peace |
| 03:28.59 | jon_ | (yeah, I know...) |
| 03:29.04 | jetscreamer | you don't run things much do you :) |
| 03:29.14 | jetscreamer | the boss should be there |
| 03:29.18 | jetscreamer | period. |
| 03:29.47 | jetscreamer | anyway |
| 03:29.51 | jetscreamer | not trying to argue |
| 03:29.57 | jetscreamer | goes back to reading |
| 03:30.18 | jon_ | me too... but how different woudl it be if the normal guy were there the whole time? |
| 03:30.47 | jetscreamer | not the normal guy, not the lineworker.. the guy in charge. |
| 03:30.53 | jetscreamer | numero uno |
| 03:30.56 | jetscreamer | et al |
| 03:31.00 | jon_ | that's what I mean |
| 03:31.18 | jon_ | if the guy in charge were present, how different would it be? |
| 03:31.36 | jetscreamer | heh |
| 03:31.51 | jetscreamer | :) i'd fire his ass in a heartbeat if he wasn't |
| 03:32.21 | jetscreamer | that's his job |
| 03:32.45 | jon_ | how far is it to hawaii? |
| 03:32.45 | jetscreamer | anyway, this is better for #debian-offtopic |
| 03:32.49 | jetscreamer | which i never join |
| 03:32.50 | jon_ | true |
| 03:33.12 | jetscreamer | do you have any idea what a vp makes? or how many corporate jets centerpoint must have? |
| 03:33.16 | jon_ | they're kinda cutthroat there aren't they? |
| 03:33.18 | jetscreamer | who cares :) |
| 03:33.33 | jetscreamer | i dunno, never joined |
| 03:33.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | jon_, eh? |
| 03:33.53 | jetscreamer | ok now i'm really going away ;0 |
| 03:33.56 | jetscreamer | err :) |
| 03:34.14 | jon_ | on vacation, are ya? :) |
| 03:34.31 | jetscreamer | their frickin wives spend more on one dress than a first class ticket costs |
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| 03:34.58 | jetscreamer | well assuming <2k for the dress |
| 03:35.04 | jetscreamer | approx |
| 03:35.30 | _DS2_Minina_ | vncprado Eu acho que aqui só pode falar em inglês! rs |
| 03:35.32 | jon_ | consider the advertising industry |
| 03:35.35 | vncprado | _DS2_Minina_: here are you!!! |
| 03:35.35 | EpicPanda1 | So are you stealing someones internet or are you on cellular interwebs?, jetscreamer? |
| 03:35.39 | jetscreamer | !br |
| 03:35.39 | dpkg | Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
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| 03:35.50 | _DS2_Minina_ | vncprado: yeahhhhh :) |
| 03:35.54 | vncprado | _DS2_Minina_: kkkkkkkk |
| 03:36.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | what he sais? |
| 03:36.14 | jetscreamer | at&t came out next day and put my wire back up. i have a generator, fiber optic cable, bigscreen, fans... |
| 03:36.19 | _DS2_Minina_ | vncprado: :) |
| 03:36.28 | EpicPanda1 | ah.. nice |
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| 03:36.45 | jetscreamer | coffepot! |
| 03:36.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | in the middle of the night? |
| 03:36.54 | vncprado | _DS2_Minina_: are you felling well? |
| 03:36.59 | EpicPanda1 | my desktop didn't like my generator. My laptop charged fine though |
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| 03:37.03 | jetscreamer | yeh 24/7 basically |
| 03:37.16 | jetscreamer | my desktop & crt put a huge load on the generator |
| 03:37.21 | jetscreamer | i tried it last night |
| 03:37.40 | EpicPanda1 | yeah those things just gulp gas when they're anywhere near rated wattage |
| 03:37.45 | lunk | Rivera is closing out the 9th in the last game at Yankee Stadium |
| 03:37.53 | jetscreamer | this laptop is a p3-700 w/128mb ram :/ |
| 03:37.55 | _DS2_Minina_ | vncprado: no no ... I do not toppling trees ... kkkkk |
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| 03:38.03 | EpicPanda1 | put linux on it, problem solved |
| 03:38.31 | jetscreamer | i only get 16bit with linux on this... old video |
| 03:38.42 | jetscreamer | s3 |
| 03:38.57 | jetscreamer | i need more ram though |
| 03:38.59 | EpicPanda1 | there's no recent linux driver available for s3 to offer 32bit video? O.o |
| 03:39.03 | jetscreamer | it's ok with 256 |
| 03:39.20 | jetscreamer | no, the xorg driver requires >8192mb vidram |
| 03:39.30 | jetscreamer | and i have 8megs fixed |
| 03:39.37 | Supaplex | 16bit colorspace on an old s3 card can't be all that bad. |
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| 03:39.46 | jetscreamer | mplayer does ok in console |
| 03:39.59 | Supaplex | don't expect full resolution w/o more ram. |
| 03:40.08 | jetscreamer | it's ok, but i can tell the difference |
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| 03:40.27 | EpicPanda1 | windows 98 se posthaste |
| 03:40.29 | jetscreamer | i can't adjust the video ram, it's not shared or anything |
| 03:40.37 | jetscreamer | actually xp does ok |
| 03:40.45 | jetscreamer | so does linux |
| 03:40.53 | jetscreamer | just no 3-d games :/ |
| 03:41.03 | EpicPanda1 | no tuxracer? NOOOOOO |
| 03:41.19 | jetscreamer | i can do nethack :) |
| 03:41.35 | EpicPanda1 | wait, no 3d means no beryl/compiz-fusion bah |
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| 03:45.08 | p1ngp0ng | how do i change to video input from my webcam so that i can stream videos through it? |
| 03:45.30 | EpicPanda1 | stream videos through a webcam? |
| 03:46.00 | jetscreamer | i think he wants to stream, using his webcam as the source (but i'm guessing) |
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| 03:46.19 | vncprado | _DS2_Minina_: fui |
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| 03:46.24 | jetscreamer | vlc does that sort of thing maybe |
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| 03:46.50 | _DS2_Minina_ | vncprado: :* |
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| 03:47.12 | jetscreamer | heh... i can tell when the warmer plate on the coffeepot kicks on and off... fan rpm's go way down |
| 03:47.19 | jetscreamer | and back up |
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| 03:48.39 | p1ngp0ng | yes i want to activate my webcan and have people see a video im playing on my computer. you know, so that i can fuck with them. |
| 03:49.13 | jon_ | oo porn! |
| 03:49.27 | EpicPanda1 | oh, that's what those idiots do on stickam |
| 03:49.45 | p1ngp0ng | no porn |
| 03:49.50 | p1ngp0ng | im only 12 |
| 03:49.54 | p1ngp0ng | lol |
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| 03:50.00 | EpicPanda1 | So are there any disadvantages to running a smp kernel with one core.. I know there aren't any advantages |
| 03:50.15 | EpicPanda1 | 12 year olds look at porn.. It's a scientific fact. |
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| 03:50.36 | p1ngp0ng | define science |
| 03:50.59 | jon_ | science is the process of defining |
| 03:51.04 | jetscreamer | no, just it won't do smp if the proc doesn't |
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| 03:51.24 | jetscreamer | there's no overhead or performance hit running an smp kernel on a one proc system |
| 03:51.39 | jetscreamer | and all the lenny & sid kernels are smp enabled nowadays |
| 03:51.40 | p1ngp0ng | science has nothing to do with faping. faping is just a action which has a equal and oposite reaction :P |
| 03:51.59 | boolean12 | Nice one p1ngp0ng |
| 03:52.08 | EpicPanda1 | That |
| 03:52.09 | p1ngp0ng | i think i might be a compulsive troll. heh |
| 03:52.15 | EpicPanda1 | That is a law of physics |
| 03:52.40 | boolean12 | Hehe. |
| 03:52.40 | jetscreamer | faping? |
| 03:52.40 | EpicPanda1 | you mean fapping! |
| 03:52.40 | boolean12 | Yes, it's a law. |
| 03:52.40 | jon_ | flaping |
| 03:52.40 | p1ngp0ng | fap fapp w/e |
| 03:52.41 | Kovensky | jetscreamer: the kernel docs say otherwise, altough the performance hit should be so minimal it is unnoticed |
| 03:52.45 | EpicPanda1 | apt-get upgrade weeeeeeeee |
| 03:52.49 | boolean12 | Hehehe |
| 03:52.53 | jetscreamer | dist-upgrade |
| 03:53.12 | EpicPanda1 | It's currently lenny amd64 |
| 03:53.45 | p1ngp0ng | im running lenny i386. and it is really nice. |
| 03:53.47 | jetscreamer | ok... what kovensky said |
| 03:53.48 | p1ngp0ng | no problems so far |
| 03:54.00 | p1ngp0ng | only had to install flash manually. the one that came with it is crap |
| 03:54.13 | Kovensky | jetscreamer: maybe it is just a theoretical slowdown, that happens with just 2 or 3 lines of asm code, but meh |
| 03:54.13 | _DS2_Minina_ | good night ... |
| 03:54.17 | _DS2_Minina_ | bye :) |
| 03:54.23 | Kovensky | we would have to worship the source to know :) |
| 03:54.49 | EpicPanda1 | I don't care about 1-2 cycles >.> |
| 03:54.57 | jetscreamer | my cat is insisting that i pet her |
| 03:55.00 | jetscreamer | with claws |
| 03:55.12 | jetscreamer | insisting with claws |
| 03:55.12 | Kovensky | jetscreamer: usual cat stuff |
| 03:55.24 | Kovensky | isn't SHE petting you? :) |
| 03:55.31 | EpicPanda1 | my cat just gives me back the text inside a file :( |
| 03:55.47 | jetscreamer | but this is .com |
| 03:55.54 | jetscreamer | aka dotcommie |
| 03:55.57 | jon_ | cat.com? |
| 03:56.04 | jetscreamer | just dotcom |
| 03:56.05 | Kovensky | lolz |
| 03:56.09 | Kovensky | EpicPanda1: no, it catenates files |
| 03:56.20 | EpicPanda1 | Yesh, I know.. by default to stdout |
| 03:56.30 | Kovensky | EpicPanda1: if you give it only one file, it will catenate a file with nothing else, thus the output of the file |
| 03:56.31 | EpicPanda1 | okay to get into sid, I change my sources.list to testing and dist-upgrade? |
| 03:56.32 | jon_ | so you'd have to petenate? |
| 03:56.43 | jetscreamer | no, testing is lenny |
| 03:56.50 | Kovensky | EpicPanda1: if you have to ask, you shouldn't go to sid :) |
| 03:56.54 | Kovensky | he will break your toys D: |
| 03:57.30 | EpicPanda1 | I'm not too familiar with aptitude. However, I can build a linux system from scratch. I'm not completely lost. |
| 03:57.36 | EpicPanda1 | sid's repos are called sid? |
| 03:57.43 | jetscreamer | yes, or unstable |
| 03:57.52 | jetscreamer | stick with lenny for a while |
| 03:58.08 | jetscreamer | then go sid ... not 'much' difference between sid & lenny |
| 03:58.22 | jetscreamer | just a couple minor versions usually |
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| 03:58.28 | Kovensky | is using lenny/sid mix |
| 03:58.43 | Kovensky | points that only sid's 2.6.26 can recognize his SATA HD |
| 03:58.59 | Kovensky | is going to bed |
| 03:59.02 | jetscreamer | nn |
| 03:59.17 | EpicPanda1 | I'm going to miss my fx-60. I'm putting a single core 3800+ in it tomorrow and selling it while it's worth $200 |
| 04:00.23 | dudeman | =D |
| 04:00.26 | dudeman | jetscreamer, yo |
| 04:00.37 | dudeman | jetscreamer, yo yo yo yo |
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| 04:03.46 | jetscreamer | hey dude |
| 04:03.48 | jetscreamer | :) |
| 04:03.58 | jon_ | dont get me down |
| 04:03.58 | EpicPanda1 | 2.6.26-1-amd64 |
| 04:04.00 | EpicPanda1 | ah whatever |
| 04:04.05 | jon_ | take a sadddd songggg |
| 04:06.17 | jetscreamer | is playing in a tourney atm |
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| 04:06.30 | EpicPanda1 | a tourney? wut |
| 04:07.31 | jetscreamer | poker |
| 04:08.09 | EpicPanda1 | "Timing buffered disk reads: 206 MB in 3.02 seconds = 68.18 MB/sec" meh I guess that's close enough for my raptor |
| 04:08.10 | EpicPanda1 | whatever |
| 04:08.35 | EpicPanda1 | specs says 72mB/s sustained booooooo |
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| 04:12.44 | lymeca | Where can I get a prebuilt amd64 package of the new 0.9.x branch of VLC? |
| 04:14.30 | jon_ | you can get one if the work to build and package it has been done |
| 04:15.29 | p1ngp0ng | how would i got about to have my webcam use /dev/video? |
| 04:16.07 | p1ngp0ng | does chese have a configuration file? |
| 04:16.11 | p1ngp0ng | cheese* |
| 04:16.25 | dmoerner | lymeca: http://nightlies.videolan.org/#debian |
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| 04:17.38 | jon_ | lymeca: search on packages.debian.org |
| 04:17.55 | jon_ | or look in the pool dir of a mirror |
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| 04:24.05 | jetscreamer | video killed the radio star |
| 04:24.13 | nvz | I need to run files off an ipod through a script to rename them based on their tag info.. the itunes converts them to XXXX.mp3 where XXXX are four seemingly random letters, what would I need to pipe ls into to only match those files and not the other files? |
| 04:24.47 | chrome | ls ????.mp3 |
| 04:24.48 | dmoerner | *.mp3? |
| 04:24.55 | dmoerner | or ???? works fine too |
| 04:24.55 | nvz | or really? |
| 04:25.02 | nvz | damn I didn't even think of that |
| 04:25.11 | nvz | I was thinking I needed to use sed or something |
| 04:25.31 | chrome | thats just file globbing |
| 04:25.38 | p1ngp0ng | how do i check to see which device my webcam is? |
| 04:25.43 | chrome | find would be the correct tool if you couldn't do it easily with a glob |
| 04:26.03 | chrome | sed is for writing tetris in :P |
| 04:26.56 | nvz | yeah I hadn't even thought of that.. I'm getting tired.. been working on the damn computer ALL freakin day |
| 04:27.07 | dondelelcaro | nvz: just use find+xargs+rename; pretty simple |
| 04:27.12 | nvz | figured someone in here who was running on more battery power would point me in the right direction |
| 04:27.34 | nvz | I'm thinking the ls ????.mp3 then piping that into mp3rename will do just fine |
| 04:27.49 | nvz | it renames them based on their tag info |
| 04:28.05 | jon_ | p1ngp0ng: check your logs |
| 04:28.06 | nvz | well not piping, but doing a while read loop |
| 04:28.37 | jon_ | that's inpiping! |
| 04:30.00 | nvz | heh, the ???? grabed a couple I didn't want.. that had numbers in them |
| 04:30.12 | nvz | but thats fine.. it was only like 4 |
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| 04:40.50 | nvz | well I still have like 400 or so songs with no tags to go through.. *sigh*.. heh |
| 04:41.27 | nvz | but over the past few weeks I had been sorting through an entire 120GB drive of data that was all named according to inode number.. so.. |
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| 04:42.10 | nvz | considering I've recovered nearly 80% of it with no corruption and got it sorted again and named properly I really can't complain |
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| 04:43.16 | nvz | music is by far the easiest thing to recover IMO |
| 04:43.31 | nvz | especially if it still has tags |
| 04:43.46 | nvz | my debian is however fubar |
| 04:44.03 | nvz | not even going to try getting that drive bootable again |
| 04:44.36 | bunnyto | argh, i cant find adobe flash |
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| 04:44.59 | nvz | !flash |
| 04:45.00 | dpkg | [flash] frequently used to deliver interactivity, audio and video through a web browser. Ask me about <gnash> or <swfdec> for free implementations or <adobe flash> for a non-free implementation. Also see http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer |
| 04:45.17 | nvz | !adobe flash |
| 04:45.17 | dpkg | Adobe Flash Player is non-free and can be installed with flashplugin-nonfree (sid or backports.org) or flashplayer-mozilla (debian-multimedia.org). Adobe doesn't provide security support for flash except to upgrade to the latest version, so Adobe Flash cannot be in a stable release (see http://bugs.debian.org/457291). See also <non-free> <bpo> <adobe flash testing> <dmm> <nspluginwrapper> http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer |
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| 04:46.16 | bunnyto | flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound |
| 04:46.18 | bunnyto | wohooooo |
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| 04:51.03 | bunnyto | Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. |
| 04:51.09 | EpicPanda1 | I have raid built into my motherboard, and I created a logical set, but how does that show up in debian? I don't see any /dev/mdX devices |
| 04:51.11 | bunnyto | how to cancel pendient apt operations? |
| 04:51.36 | EpicPanda1 | raid-1 btw. I was expecting a new device that I can format and what not and it mirrors it without any special setup |
| 04:53.39 | nvz | RSVP -> #debian-offtopic: I am pondering if I should instal SLES tomorrow to prep for a Linux+ test I won't have to pay for, but I'm not sure if its worth it or not. I really don't want to ever be asked to use SLES.. heh. I was just wondering if any of my fellow debian enthusiasts would care to comment IN #DEBIAN-OFFTOPIC. |
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| 04:59.09 | nvz | explores compTIA's website |
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| 05:00.54 | amine | dovecot keeps disconnecting me after I login with it successfully in telnet.. soon as it sees me login, it disconnects me. I already have disable_plaintext_auth = no in the config (and uncommented). Any idea? I'm already asking in #dovecot but they seem to be afk at this time |
| 05:01.31 | nvz | amine: my first instincts would be to read logs |
| 05:02.02 | nvz | not at all familiar with that software in question but the TS methods should be the same as anything else network related |
| 05:05.14 | amine | I'll enable logging, thanks |
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| 05:06.22 | nvz | yeah it would be a good idea.. though generally anything login based or errors involving fundamental stuff like that would show in system or auth logs anyhow giving you some clues |
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| 05:08.52 | amine | why can't setting up a mail system be easy :( |
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| 05:09.24 | zu22 | ldd shows dynamically linked libraries in a binary, anyone know tool that will show statically linked libs? |
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| 05:09.27 | nvz | idk, nothing is ever easy the first time around |
| 05:09.56 | p1ngp0ng | hehe im just gonna throw this out there. is it possible to encrypt and entire system using live encryption? eg, when i make a new file, it's instantly ectrypted, and everything i type on irc,web etc. is also encrypted. |
| 05:10.06 | p1ngp0ng | an* |
| 05:10.13 | zu22 | p1ngp0ng: try truecrypt |
| 05:10.20 | nvz | p1ngp0ng: I just started using truecrypt today |
| 05:10.30 | nvz | it does just that |
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| 05:10.36 | nvz | encrypts in memory |
| 05:10.41 | p1ngp0ng | hmm, sweet |
| 05:10.48 | p1ngp0ng | is it in the repository? |
| 05:10.49 | zu22 | nvz: it rocks |
| 05:10.56 | nvz | na, gotta goto their website |
| 05:11.07 | p1ngp0ng | i gotta build it from source? |
| 05:11.09 | faileas | p1ngp0ng: i think there's a linux native one, can't remember though |
| 05:11.55 | nvz | but it works on Mac,Win, and Linux, and it seems ideal no matter how you will deploy it from using it on removable storage, or fixed, using a file or a partition as the crypt.. it even does hidden crypts and will encrypt an entire OS |
| 05:12.10 | p1ngp0ng | only see ubuntu and suse packages. |
| 05:12.14 | amine | nvz: how fast is it? |
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| 05:12.24 | nvz | p1ngp0ng: I haven't really tested it on debian yet.. I encrypted my USB hd under windows.. but I downloaded both the deb package and the source.. |
| 05:12.26 | p1ngp0ng | nvz: you got a howto on building it for ubuntu |
| 05:12.40 | p1ngp0ng | oh ok |
| 05:12.42 | nvz | the deb package was built for ubuntu.. so idk if it will drop in and work on debian stable |
| 05:12.54 | faileas | IIRC the linux build of truecrypt dosen't do FDE |
| 05:13.05 | nvz | might, I'd be interested in knowing.. I haven't got around to doing it yet |
| 05:13.11 | nvz | FDE? |
| 05:13.14 | nvz | damn TLAs |
| 05:13.16 | nvz | lol |
| 05:13.27 | faileas | full disk encryption |
| 05:13.30 | nvz | amine: well with AES I get about 54mb/s on my machine |
| 05:13.39 | faileas | on linux i THINK what you should be looking at is LUKS |
| 05:13.46 | nvz | amine: it has many different encryption and hashing options |
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| 05:14.16 | debCarlos | Hi |
| 05:14.30 | nvz | amine: for my usage 54mb/s is probably better than I get anyhow considering its a USB drive and rarely runs at anywhere near that speed anyhow |
| 05:15.00 | nvz | amine: I have a pentium M 1.6ghz w/ 768MB ram FWIW |
| 05:15.15 | nvz | amine: and that benchmark was taken under windows XP |
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| 05:15.43 | nvz | on the laptop hd, not the USB one |
| 05:16.10 | debCarlos | i'm attempting to install debian-etch on a hp pavilion dv2620... first i got acpi problems, then apic problems... and when i thought i had reached a soultion with noapic and acpi=off combined.... |
| 05:16.21 | debCarlos | It outputs some pnp bios errors |
| 05:16.27 | debCarlos | and something about stablity |
| 05:16.36 | debCarlos | what should i do ? |
| 05:17.00 | nvz | debCarlos: is that a laptop? |
| 05:17.11 | debCarlos | yes |
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| 05:18.53 | debCarlos | this is basically what it says: "You there, disable the pnp with pnpsomethingweirdno (when the boot: appears) or your stability is compromised" |
| 05:19.07 | p1ngp0ng | yes the ubuntu package works on debian lenny :) |
| 05:20.11 | debCarlos | any ideas ? |
| 05:21.27 | nvz | try writing down the message... and oh, idk.. doing what it says. |
| 05:21.34 | nvz | !laptop |
| 05:21.38 | nvz | !laptops |
| 05:22.26 | craigevil | debCarlos: i would google your laptop model +debian chances are there is a guide for it |
| 05:22.38 | debCarlos | already done that |
| 05:23.15 | debCarlos | "debian on hp pavilion" , "debian on hp pavilion dv2500" , "debian on hp pavilion dv2620", "debian + hp pavilion" and so on :( |
| 05:23.36 | amphi | debCarlos: nothing on linux-laptop.net or tuxmobil.org? |
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| 05:24.09 | debCarlos | emmm... didn't knew about those sites ^^. I'm going to check |
| 05:24.24 | jon_ | what were the results of those searches? |
| 05:25.20 | debCarlos | noapic | nolapic |
| 05:25.27 | debCarlos | those were the answers everywhere |
| 05:25.32 | nvz | there's actually not much comming up on google, linux-laptop.net has a 2610 model |
| 05:25.54 | nvz | sometimes you have to settle for a different distro or a slightly different modem |
| 05:25.57 | nvz | model even |
| 05:26.07 | nvz | but its usually still helpful |
| 05:26.30 | debCarlos | what would happen if i disable that pnp thing ? |
| 05:26.32 | nvz | the worst linux laptop experience I had was with a Presario 906US |
| 05:26.39 | nvz | debCarlos: try it and see |
| 05:27.12 | nvz | sounds like you are actually having the same types of issues I had with that Presario |
| 05:27.17 | nvz | damn thing had a ton of hardware issues |
| 05:27.35 | debCarlos | ye |
| 05:28.44 | nvz | at any rate I gotta get to bed, got classes in like 6 hours and probably already gonna miss breakfast being up this late.. heh |
| 05:28.46 | debCarlos | but you know what? ubuntu and gentoo can boot perfectly, but debian or netBSD just don't want to do it.... and i don't want to install ubuntu :( |
| 05:28.55 | nvz | I can sit around and do this from class.. heh |
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| 05:29.25 | nvz | debCarlos: then take notes on the ubuntu/gentoo methods |
| 05:29.35 | debCarlos | how ? |
| 05:29.59 | nvz | read dmesg or dmesg.log would be where I'd start |
| 05:30.05 | nvz | see what its doing to work around the issues |
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| 05:30.18 | krins | squid cache error zero sized reply |
| 05:30.22 | krins | any idea? |
| 05:30.39 | nvz | the dmesg output should show everything from the kernel version being used, to the kernel command line used, and everything from start to finish on how it manages to boot your system |
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| 05:31.44 | debCarlos | oh, you're right |
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| 05:32.11 | nvz | no shit.. heh |
| 05:32.15 | hejux | hi all |
| 05:32.19 | nvz | believe it or not, I've done this before |
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| 05:32.37 | nvz | many, many, many, many... etc.. times |
| 05:32.44 | hejux | i am basically use gnome and gdm right now and i installed kde-base ,when i restart X |
| 05:33.02 | hejux | i can't choose kde on the gdm senssion menu ... |
| 05:33.06 | hejux | what can i do ? |
| 05:33.19 | hejux | how can i start kde on gdm ? |
| 05:33.20 | nvz | personally I never had an experience like the one with this Thinkpad T41 |
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| 05:33.27 | debCarlos | i'm starting to hate hp, surely this is because them doing a non-standard thing |
| 05:33.46 | nvz | debian supported everything right off the bat, including the built-in wifi I still to this day can't get to work with windows |
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| 05:34.07 | hejux | !help |
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| 05:34.18 | nvz | surprised the hell out of me when I booted debian for the first time after fighting in WinXP to get the wifi working, and it just worked in debian etch |
| 05:34.24 | debCarlos | lol |
| 05:34.26 | debCarlos | you know |
| 05:34.44 | nvz | debian supports crap in this laptop I didn't even know it had |
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| 05:34.59 | nvz | hell I didn't even know there was an accelerometer in it until I installed debian |
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| 05:35.06 | holycow | wow cool |
| 05:35.07 | holycow | hehe |
| 05:35.12 | hejux | hi man |
| 05:35.20 | hejux | could anybody help me |
| 05:35.27 | debCarlos | what's that |
| 05:35.29 | debCarlos | ? |
| 05:35.36 | prolix | i've waited long enough for realtek to come out with native linux driver for this p.o.s. wifi thingy |
| 05:35.39 | nvz | hejux: did you even install kde? |
| 05:35.44 | hejux | yes |
| 05:35.46 | hejux | i did |
| 05:35.55 | prolix | they're never going to do it |
| 05:35.59 | nvz | did you try running update-menus as root? |
| 05:36.13 | nvz | and restarting gdm with /etc/init.d/gdm restart |
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| 05:36.44 | nvz | it should be "KDE" in the session menu but may show up as "startkde" or something |
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| 05:37.20 | hejux | udate-menus ? |
| 05:37.25 | hejux | i'll try |
| 05:37.26 | nvz | worst case scenario, to shut you up.. since you're being a whiner.. heh.. would be to echo "startkde" > ~/.xsession, then just choose "default" in the gdm session menu |
| 05:37.35 | nvz | and voila |
| 05:37.41 | nvz | just works (tm) |
| 05:37.59 | debCarlos | lol |
| 05:38.08 | nvz | "default" session in gdm, tells it to read your xsession file in your homedir |
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| 05:38.22 | hejux | ohh... |
| 05:38.36 | holycow | fear the nvz |
| 05:38.37 | hejux | is |
| 05:38.41 | debCarlos | nvz: You say i should check ubuntu's dmesg ? |
| 05:38.41 | nvz | which is what I always do, because I run a custom environment with sawfish and whatever else I choose to use at the time.. which is currently xscreensave, chbg, and aterm |
| 05:38.47 | hejux | is kdebase-workspace a must ? |
| 05:38.59 | nvz | debCarlos: sounds like a good place to start if you know ubuntu can boot it. |
| 05:39.13 | debCarlos | nvz: And what should i look for ? |
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| 05:39.38 | nvz | debCarlos: everything.. |
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| 05:39.50 | debCarlos | but i know nothing about this! |
| 05:40.09 | debCarlos | i mean, i see a lot of 'acpi: blah blah' lines |
| 05:40.21 | hejux | nvz:there is no update-menus command |
| 05:40.23 | nvz | debCarlos: don't know what to tell you.. unless you feel like saving both your debian and ubuntu dmesg logs and talking to me tomorrow |
| 05:40.27 | nvz | I gotta get to sleep |
| 05:40.56 | debCarlos | nvz: ok, i'll try that then :) |
| 05:41.06 | nvz | hejux: first of all if you have no update-menus command then you either a) are not running debian or b) do not have "menu" installed, which would be why the system is not automatically putting things into your menus.. like KDE for instance |
| 05:41.21 | nvz | hejux: secondly, you should go for the end-all-whining fix I suggested |
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| 05:41.45 | nvz | hejux: and just use "default" from the session menu, and put "startkde" into your ~/.xsession file |
| 05:41.46 | hejux | which command to restart gdm ? sorry ... |
| 05:41.48 | debCarlos | nvz: Do you think (just in case i can't install debian), that gentoo would be a good dist ? |
| 05:41.49 | hejux | i |
| 05:41.55 | DanDare | how to have ntfs-3g support on debian ? |
| 05:41.55 | hejux | i'll install menu |
| 05:42.04 | p1ngp0ng | heh, truecrypt is indeed powerfull ^^ |
| 05:42.14 | nvz | hejux: that should work, but menu is quirky, sometimes it does its job sometimes it doesnt.. |
| 05:42.21 | nvz | hejux: /etc/init.d/gdm restart |
| 05:42.27 | nvz | p1ngp0ng: did the deb package work? |
| 05:42.31 | p1ngp0ng | yes |
| 05:42.31 | DanDare | libntfs9 ? |
| 05:42.35 | p1ngp0ng | nvz: yes |
| 05:42.38 | nvz | p1ngp0ng: on etch? |
| 05:42.39 | Lagbolts | DanDare, you using etch? |
| 05:42.44 | p1ngp0ng | nvz: lenny |
| 05:42.47 | DanDare | yeah |
| 05:42.48 | nvz | oh.. |
| 05:42.56 | nvz | well I guess I will find out if it works on etch |
| 05:43.00 | nvz | when I try it, that is |
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| 05:43.05 | p1ngp0ng | nvz: it will probably work on etch aswell |
| 05:43.26 | p1ngp0ng | just run the installer as root. unless you have your regular user configured for sudoi |
| 05:43.29 | kanzure | Does anyone know how to force privoxy to switch proxies? |
| 05:43.30 | p1ngp0ng | sudo |
| 05:43.31 | nvz | I would/should be using lenny.. so I can be testing and filing bugs so I don't have to bitch later when its stable about all the bugs that will never get fixed now.. heh |
| 05:43.47 | Lagbolts | DanDare, you can add a hal policy to use ntfs-3g automatically if that is what you are looking for. not sure it works in etch, i use lenny. or are you looking for a command line option? |
| 05:43.54 | nvz | but I currently only have internet access via a CDMA USB modem.. so ... |
| 05:44.16 | p1ngp0ng | cellphone? |
| 05:44.20 | nvz | yeah.. an upgrade would be painfully slow and costly (not to me, but to the tax payers paying for this.. ) heh |
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| 05:44.25 | DanDare | Lagbolt, im looking for mounting like mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/hd /dir |
| 05:44.43 | DanDare | to access a NTFS on second HD |
| 05:44.45 | nvz | p1ngp0ng: its basically a cell phone, but its more like a USB modem.. looks like a little thumbdrive |
| 05:44.53 | p1ngp0ng | oh i know what you mean |
| 05:44.56 | p1ngp0ng | 3G right |
| 05:45.01 | Lagbolts | dana_good, that should work if you have ntfs-3g installed. . . does it not? or have you not tried? |
| 05:45.13 | nvz | I'm nowhere near the verison tower either.. I'm in a romaing area |
| 05:45.21 | hejux | there is no .xsenssion |
| 05:45.22 | DanDare | i cant find the packages |
| 05:45.23 | nvz | yeah its 3G/CDMA |
| 05:45.28 | debCarlos | does gentoo is a good dist ? |
| 05:45.33 | nvz | hejux: duh, which is why I said to type this... |
| 05:45.48 | nvz | hejux: echo "startkde" > ~/.xsession |
| 05:45.53 | nvz | hejux: as your user of course |
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| 05:46.11 | nvz | then when you choose "default" from gdm it will run that file and start KDE |
| 05:46.16 | p1ngp0ng | im currently encrypting a 50GB container to test it out. |
| 05:46.33 | Lagbolts | DanDare, you dont see ntfs-3g with apt-cache search? |
| 05:46.37 | p1ngp0ng | takes about 45 minutes |
| 05:46.39 | DanDare | no |
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| 05:46.54 | nvz | p1ngp0ng: yeah I encrypted a 50GB partition on my 150GB USB HD earlier.. took me like an hour and a half |
| 05:47.01 | debCarlos | !gentoo |
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| 05:47.27 | DanDare | and the only thing i have with "3g" is mp3gain |
| 05:47.27 | p1ngp0ng | nvz: later i will be trying the hiden operating system option ^^ |
| 05:47.27 | nvz | I don't know about anyone else but USB drives have always been SLOOOW for me no matter what type or what hardware I am using them on |
| 05:47.41 | DanDare | so it dont came with etch, that´s |
| 05:48.06 | p1ngp0ng | the decoy os will be windows me lol |
| 05:48.17 | DanDare | but damn they say "over 170 distributions" but not etch, .. maybe |
| 05:48.26 | nvz | DanDare: you're drying to get ntfs3g support? |
| 05:48.41 | Lagbolt | DanDare, ah i dont see it in etch, you can use backports to get it |
| 05:48.45 | nvz | DanDare: you need to install fuse, and ntfsprogs |
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| 05:48.48 | nvz | Lagbolt: don't need it |
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| 05:49.09 | Lagbolt | nvz, you get read/write with ntfsprogs? |
| 05:49.28 | nvz | Lagbolt: ntfsmount |
| 05:49.33 | Lagbolt | ah excellent |
| 05:49.36 | cdmanka | TEST |
| 05:49.47 | nvz | uses FUSE |
| 05:50.09 | Lagbolt | nvz, how does it compare to 3g? as stable? more stable? |
| 05:50.19 | nvz | no idea.. |
| 05:50.26 | nvz | it uses libntfs |
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| 05:50.41 | nvz | compressed files are RO though |
| 05:50.53 | nvz | I know that much |
| 05:51.24 | nvz | I personally would avoid windows and their filesystems at all costs and wouldn't write to them unless absolutly nessicary |
| 05:51.51 | p1ngp0ng | i hear that. |
| 05:52.01 | Lagbolt | nvz, yeah i agree. i generally use it only for usb drives that i want to move between. never any data i am worried about |
| 05:52.03 | nvz | I only use fat on my USB drive and have windows on this laptop because I am in school and have to often do windows related stuff |
| 05:52.07 | p1ngp0ng | i've actually been without windows for allmost 2 months now :) and i am really enjoying it |
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| 05:52.31 | nvz | I just looked at a directory of photos on my fat USB drive earlier... 35mb, but 109mb on disk.. |
| 05:52.35 | nvz | figure that shit out.. heh |
| 05:52.41 | nvz | and yes I know why it does that |
| 05:52.52 | p1ngp0ng | heheh |
| 05:52.55 | nvz | there is no excuse for shitty filesystems |
| 05:53.11 | p1ngp0ng | it's amazingly old tho |
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| 05:53.48 | nvz | yeah well.. its still industry standard for USB drives especially ones that are used in cross-platform environments |
| 05:53.54 | p1ngp0ng | its nice to use fat for usb sticks. my lenny installer is on a usb |
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| 05:54.16 | hejux | hi nvz |
| 05:54.24 | nvz | I still haven't bootstrapped a usb stick yet |
| 05:54.31 | hejux | i come back to thank u ,i know how to do it ... |
| 05:54.37 | hejux | just |
| 05:54.40 | hejux | sudo cp /usr/share/kde4/services/searchproviders/kde.desktop /usr/share/xsessions/ |
| 05:54.41 | prolix | i have to use windows if i want wi-fi |
| 05:54.43 | nvz | mostly because I don't own one, nor do I usually have hardware new enough to boot from one |
| 05:54.44 | p1ngp0ng | it takes 20 seconds :P |
| 05:54.47 | hejux | that's will be fine ... |
| 05:54.48 | prolix | and it's making me ill |
| 05:55.03 | prolix | i need to motivate and swap out wifi thingys |
| 05:55.16 | nvz | hejux: that little hack puts kde into gdm? |
| 05:55.36 | p1ngp0ng | zcat linux_kernel_image ..... then copy the netboot image on it. voila |
| 05:55.41 | debCarlos | man, i just had a revelation, i'm going to install gentoo |
| 05:55.59 | prolix | what was the epiphany about? |
| 05:56.25 | prolix | did you have visions of a burning penguin? |
| 05:56.39 | p1ngp0ng | bsd/linux mutation? |
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| 05:56.46 | p1ngp0ng | that would be scary |
| 05:57.12 | nvz | dpkg, kde+gdm is KDE missing from GDM sessions menu? cp /usr/share/kde4/services/searchproviders/kde.desktop /usr/share/xsessions/ -or- echo "startkde" > ~/.xsession and use "default" session. |
| 05:57.22 | nvz | !kde+gdm |
| 05:57.30 | nvz | dpkg you need to wake up |
| 05:57.38 | prolix | sometimes i wish i weren't so lazy |
| 05:57.56 | prolix | then i find it's too much work to worry about being lazy, so i forget about it |
| 05:58.00 | p1ngp0ng | bah, gotta go to work in 8 hours |
| 05:58.04 | p1ngp0ng | i _hate_ my jib |
| 05:58.05 | p1ngp0ng | job* |
| 05:58.07 | nvz | dpkg, kde in gdm is KDE missing from GDM sessions menu? cp /usr/share/kde4/services/searchproviders/kde.desktop /usr/share/xsessions/ -or- echo "startkde" > ~/.xsession and use "default" session. |
| 05:58.24 | nvz | fine then, ignore me.. as usual |
| 05:58.30 | nvz | dpkg, hello |
| 05:58.49 | p1ngp0ng | !nvidia |
| 05:58.51 | nvz | yeah whatever, see if you get a botsnack from me.. |
| 05:58.57 | p1ngp0ng | he really is asleep Oo |
| 05:59.20 | prolix | for as much uptime as that bot's had, i think whoever maintains it deserves to take it offline every once in a while |
| 05:59.26 | prolix | i, for one, know i've abused it |
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| 05:59.57 | p1ngp0ng | thats what bots are for ^^ |
| 06:00.11 | prolix | whipping posts? |
| 06:00.18 | nvz | yeah well dondelelcaro maintains it, and he seems to have left too |
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| 06:00.39 | nvz | ~hello |
| 06:00.40 | apt | Howdy Bub |
| 06:00.49 | prolix | i went to a lecture about intelligent interaction between humans and robots this past weekend |
| 06:00.52 | nvz | !botsnack |
| 06:00.57 | DanDare | i have for ntfs-3g on linux "deficient linux kernel... unmount is unsafe unless it´s made sure the ntfs-3g process naturally terminates" |
| 06:00.58 | nvz | erm |
| 06:01.01 | nvz | ~botsnack |
| 06:01.01 | apt | nvz: thanks |
| 06:01.04 | prolix | apparently, children find human qualities in machines |
| 06:01.07 | DanDare | so how to naturaly terminate that ? |
| 06:01.11 | nvz | no problem, old buddy |
| 06:01.19 | nvz | at least Tim's bot still works |
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| 06:01.34 | prolix | ~log |
| 06:01.35 | apt | i heard log is as piece of wood, or a record, or the opposite of exponentiation |
| 06:01.56 | prolix | ~realtek |
| 06:01.57 | apt | somebody said realtek was crap |
| 06:02.05 | prolix | yeah. not as informative |
| 06:02.07 | nvz | ~human |
| 06:02.07 | apt | rumour has it, human is the mind of an angel in the body of an animal |
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| 06:02.25 | nvz | no thats not it |
| 06:02.28 | nvz | ~person |
| 06:02.29 | apt | person is, like, like a bot, but squishier, or a meat popscicle |
| 06:02.35 | nvz | grins |
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| 06:03.07 | nvz | apt, I didn't know you were a valley girl.. |
| 06:03.07 | apt | You didn't know you were a valley girl..? |
| 06:03.30 | nvz | no, I knew I am.. I grew up in the valley.. I was talking about you, silly |
| 06:03.40 | prolix | if the person who maintains the dpkg bot left for good, then i would hope that the database wasn't taken as well |
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| 06:03.51 | prolix | that would be an awful shame |
| 06:04.01 | nvz | he didn't leave for good, he was just here about two hours ago |
| 06:04.13 | nvz | he responded to my question earlier |
| 06:04.19 | prolix | maybe he was abducted? |
| 06:04.26 | nvz | maybe he went to bed |
| 06:04.38 | prolix | and he took the bot to bed with him? |
| 06:04.38 | nvz | though its not really that late over there |
| 06:04.50 | eldereko | I just did an update in lenny and now cannot resolve any external hostnames/domains, networking is working, I can ping but no dns lookups?? |
| 06:04.54 | nvz | I doubt it.. the bot sits in the lab last I checked |
| 06:05.08 | nvz | its just on a really old system |
| 06:05.19 | nvz | when he's not around to keep it running it often doesn't work |
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| 06:05.30 | prolix | ? |
| 06:05.35 | nvz | its 2am here though now.. time flies on IRC |
| 06:05.39 | prolix | huh. interesting |
| 06:05.53 | p1ngp0ng | hum this isnt good |
| 06:05.53 | nvz | and I'm gonna be tired come breakfast/class time |
| 06:06.08 | p1ngp0ng | im trying to mount my container. but it tells me im giving the wrong root password :S |
| 06:06.27 | nvz | not to mention the stupid general assembly/lecture thing I will likely have to attend in the morning *groan* |
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| 06:07.16 | nvz | p1ngp0ng: yeah, I made my password like 34 chars long cause apparently it considered my 16char password to be "short" |
| 06:07.35 | prolix | my password is the letter o |
| 06:07.47 | prolix | for open sesame |
| 06:08.00 | nvz | p1ngp0ng: which is news to me.. I usually go with 13-26 chars for most of what I call a level 3 password |
| 06:08.08 | nvz | usually on the lower end of that |
| 06:08.09 | p1ngp0ng | mine is 15 |
| 06:08.16 | nvz | most my passwords are 13-16 chars |
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| 06:08.23 | p1ngp0ng | that is the root password. not the password i chose to encrypt the container with |
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| 06:08.51 | debCarlos | is dpkg down ? |
| 06:09.08 | p1ngp0ng | when i try to mount the container, i first give the password for the container, then is asks me for the root password. it's there it fails |
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| 06:09.17 | jon_ | !test |
| 06:09.20 | nvz | idk.. I normally run mkpasswd several times to spit out a bunch of hashes and seed my brain then I generate a password form that |
| 06:09.22 | yos87 | hi |
| 06:09.50 | p1ngp0ng | i allways use combinations of words with alot of salts |
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| 06:10.05 | nvz | thats been the method I've always used.. one if I don't have something to start from I will never choose a pw, and after I type it in I will remember it |
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| 06:10.15 | p1ngp0ng | eg. thaTwas$him%69 |
| 06:10.20 | yos87 | I have question, If I copy the pool and dist folder from debian dvd to my harddisk, how can I add the local files to sources.list so that I don't use the DVD again? |
| 06:10.44 | p1ngp0ng | thats a old password tho :P |
| 06:10.55 | jon_ | takeOutThaTwa$h? |
| 06:11.04 | nvz | yeah I don't ever use words or any kind of pneumonic |
| 06:11.25 | p1ngp0ng | mY$bosSisAcunt666 |
| 06:11.39 | prolix | yos87: man sed |
| 06:11.52 | nvz | mine are entirely random and I generally just choose form the hashes I start with groups of chars I like the look of |
| 06:12.03 | nvz | some chars look better together than other |
| 06:12.11 | p1ngp0ng | hehe yeh |
| 06:12.15 | jelly-home | prolix: how exactly does man sed help him set up a local repo? |
| 06:12.31 | p1ngp0ng | like db and tf gq etc :P |
| 06:12.41 | nvz | mkpasswd just spit out FW20MOP0r2IR. which looks cool to me |
| 06:12.50 | prolix | jelly-home: are we reading the same question? |
| 06:12.53 | nvz | I may take that and mix it with other hashes that come out |
| 06:13.04 | jelly-home | prolix: <yos87> I have question, If I copy the pool and dist folder from debian dvd to my harddisk, how can I add the local files to sources.list so that I don't use the DVD again? |
| 06:13.25 | p1ngp0ng | well, my passwords are usually to long, even for a advanced dictionary attack |
| 06:13.30 | prolix | yeah, it didn't mutate in the 30 seconds between posts |
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| 06:13.59 | yos87 | prolix: I didn't understand what is sed |
| 06:14.23 | nvz | p1ngp0ng: well I don't think about it too logistically.. its not so much that I choose non-words because its more secure.. its because I have a harder time making decisions than remembering things |
| 06:14.46 | prolix | yos87: are you asking if there's a way for you to not use the cd/dvd and use repos that are available online instead? |
| 06:14.59 | nvz | p1ngp0ng: CMGRR-XCBMG-4P8TB-DR9FW-62PFB was my Win98SE code and I haven't used that in like 10 years |
| 06:15.00 | nvz | know it off the top of my head |
| 06:15.11 | nvz | along with the code to Mike Tyson on Punch Out for nintendo |
| 06:15.18 | nvz | and a million other strings of useless data |
| 06:15.32 | nvz | If I type something I won't forget it |
| 06:16.02 | nvz | however deciding out of the dictionary or my vocab what words to use for a password and how to masquerade them would take me an enternity |
| 06:16.07 | yos87 | prolix: not online, I want to add local files (the pool folder) to my sources.list |
| 06:16.14 | p1ngp0ng | hehe funy that you remember that :) |
| 06:16.18 | nvz | so I let the computer generate me random chars and just remember em |
| 06:16.28 | prolix | oh. then ask jelly-home |
| 06:16.31 | nvz | yeah FWIW 007-373-5963 |
| 06:16.34 | yos87 | prolix: it's too much to download everything online, I have only 120 KBps speed at home |
| 06:16.43 | nvz | will get you figting mike tyson.. heh |
| 06:16.56 | p1ngp0ng | hehehehe |
| 06:16.57 | nvz | and I haven't played that game in well over 15 years |
| 06:17.18 | jon_ | yos87: pool has much more than you need |
| 06:17.25 | p1ngp0ng | only code i remeber is "show me the money" :P |
| 06:17.31 | nvz | you can just imagine the useless data in my mind.. it drives me nuts at times that I can't just forget shit |
| 06:17.40 | nvz | but its incredibly useful sometimes too |
| 06:18.00 | p1ngp0ng | i envy that |
| 06:18.00 | yos87 | jon_: right, But I don't have CDROM in my laptop, you advice me to keep installing packages online? |
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| 06:18.34 | jon_ | most of the time the download of one or two packages isn't that bad |
| 06:18.45 | nvz | I know all my personal info.. several phone numbers, lisc no, social security, library card barcode number..etc.. tons of software product codes.. |
| 06:19.10 | p1ngp0ng | nvz: you are blessed like that :) |
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| 06:19.15 | nvz | this is why I make good use of my phone book in my phone and try not to type peoples phone numbers in cause I really don't want them stuck in my head |
| 06:19.18 | jon_ | yos87: if you have the dvds, why not just use those? |
| 06:19.20 | p1ngp0ng | nvz: i would be the complete oposite if you |
| 06:19.35 | p1ngp0ng | of* |
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| 06:19.40 | nvz | anything I have to type more than once I will never forget it seems |
| 06:19.42 | Elive_user39 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:19.55 | nvz | tell me something a million times though, and I can still forget about it |
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| 06:20.08 | yos87 | jon_: I don't have cdrom Device in my laptop |
| 06:20.20 | yos87 | I install whole gnome online |
| 06:20.21 | p1ngp0ng | i usually forget things i've read 10 seconds ago :P |
| 06:20.25 | jon_ | ahh |
| 06:20.34 | jon_ | do you have also a desktop? |
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| 06:20.36 | p1ngp0ng | but still, my brain is allways in overdrive |
| 06:20.38 | p1ngp0ng | ironic i know |
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| 06:21.08 | nvz | p1ngp0ng: well everyone has strengths and weaknesses the trick is to learn what they are and how to utilize them. |
| 06:21.27 | p1ngp0ng | my visual memory is very good |
| 06:21.40 | nvz | p1ngp0ng: too many people try to hard to be like someone else or do things the way someone else does, envy their strengths and try to make them their own.. etc |
| 06:21.53 | nvz | p1ngp0ng: you got to work with what you have, not what other people have |
| 06:21.59 | yos87 | jon_: yes, I have desktop also |
| 06:22.06 | p1ngp0ng | yeh, people allways want to be what they cant be |
| 06:22.45 | nvz | p1ngp0ng: I do things way off-beat and people who really understand why I am so good at what I do, know that if I tried to follow the norm, I wouldn't be the guru that I am |
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| 06:23.19 | nvz | p1ngp0ng: I've just learned to harness the power of my mind, which as it turns out works differently than everyone else's |
| 06:23.21 | p1ngp0ng | thats usually how it is |
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| 06:23.40 | nvz | though admitedly I still have a lot to learn about myself as well as the human mind in general |
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| 06:23.54 | midnightRmbler | human mind |
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| 06:24.03 | midnightRmbler | hello all |
| 06:24.09 | p1ngp0ng | hi |
| 06:24.16 | nvz | I always like to try figure out why I do things a certain way and use what I discover about myself to adapt my protocols |
| 06:24.39 | nvz | I'm constantly reprogramming my thought processes |
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| 06:25.06 | p1ngp0ng | stop it. you're starting to sound like a robot .ol |
| 06:25.07 | p1ngp0ng | lol* |
| 06:25.13 | nvz | which is why I can't do simple tasks like go to bed |
| 06:25.24 | nvz | which is what I should be doing right about now |
| 06:25.34 | p1ngp0ng | hehe, i know that feeling, i hate going to sleep. |
| 06:25.40 | midnightRmbler | nvz: go to ed |
| 06:25.49 | p1ngp0ng | when im not working, all i want to do is to spend time infront of my monitor |
| 06:25.53 | sCOTTo | hey guys! I am doing a project for someone in Sydney Aust, I need some advice... I have a professional who has a windows server and is using exchange as well as a time billing software that records all the time he is spending with each client so that he can bill properly. I need software to replace the time billing software on a new debian server as well as a better way to do emailing - he needs to archive and back up his email always as its all legal. Als |
| 06:25.54 | sCOTTo | o needs to be able to go back through it later if need be to find older emails. anyone know any good tips ?? |
| 06:25.58 | nvz | yeah, learning to evolve beyond the need to sleep is one of my life's missions |
| 06:26.21 | p1ngp0ng | i usually jsut sleep 3-4 hours a night |
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| 06:26.53 | nvz | I am convinced it was just something cavemen did to avoid being eaten by predators that were better equipped for night |
| 06:26.56 | sCOTTo | brb |
| 06:26.59 | p1ngp0ng | im sure that will change soon tho. i'll be a father in a very short time |
| 06:27.06 | nvz | and its merely something we haven't been able to evolve from |
| 06:27.21 | prolix | heh |
| 06:27.31 | yos87 | jon_: can you ope private? |
| 06:27.36 | nvz | I think the only reason we still sleep is the fundamental reason the cavemen did... stress management |
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| 06:28.05 | debCarlos | nvz: I think it's because we get tired |
| 06:28.23 | nvz | I've not seen any significat biological processes that take place during sleep, its seems to be two things, need for psycological rest, and physical rest.. and physical rest can be solved by sitting down and relaxing |
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| 06:28.34 | jon_ | no, I don't do any kind of private help |
| 06:28.37 | shashi1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:28.38 | nvz | mental stress could be delt with through things like medititation |
| 06:28.45 | debCarlos | still, i like to dream |
| 06:28.55 | prolix | what about repairing cells without the pesky side effect of pain? sleep's good for that |
| 06:29.04 | debCarlos | so, that's a good reason to sleep |
| 06:29.11 | nvz | debCarlos: I dream with my eyes open.. |
| 06:29.15 | p1ngp0ng | meditation is a nice thing. some times, i put on some meditation music and just reflect on things |
| 06:29.26 | nvz | or as Fiona Apple had said, "I don't go to sleep to dream" |
| 06:29.35 | debCarlos | nvz: cool man, can you say me how ? |
| 06:30.01 | p1ngp0ng | its genetic i believe |
| 06:30.09 | nvz | prolix: pain is another form of stress |
| 06:30.10 | p1ngp0ng | eighter you can or you cant |
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| 06:30.31 | debCarlos | damn, then i will just continue going to sleep to dream |
| 06:30.38 | yos87 | jon_: no private help |
| 06:30.46 | nvz | prolix: where medititation solves mental stress issues, yoga, tai chi, accupressure..etc address physical pain |
| 06:30.47 | prolix | pain is a form of sensory input, much like pleasure. coupled, they dictate our behavior to extend/ensure our biological existence |
| 06:31.42 | prolix | spirituality is a whole 'nother ball of wax |
| 06:32.22 | nvz | bottom line is sleep seems to be to avoid all sorts of stress we put ourselves through on a daily basis.. I think one, we need to strive to cause ourselves less stress, two to learn to deal with the stress other people and things cause us, and three spend less downtime sleeping when we can be getting things done.. |
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| 06:33.00 | nvz | but like you see right now the need for sleep is keeping me from doing anything productive other than ranting about not needing to sleep |
| 06:33.38 | nvz | got various pains that are setting in.. eyes are heavy, back is hurting.. etc |
| 06:33.43 | debCarlos | anyway, we all know that we're going to sleep today :P |
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| 06:34.02 | prolix | sleep deprived rantings aren't really rants, they're more comments from a semi-lucid dreamstate. a lot of authors purposely deprive themselves of sleep to take advantage of that |
| 06:34.10 | nvz | yeah, and it sucks.. I'd rather just finish my work and go to breakfast and then to class.. |
| 06:34.18 | nvz | sleep is a waste of time right now.. hehe |
| 06:34.40 | debCarlos | lol |
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| 06:34.48 | nvz | I'm perminantly in that state it seems |
| 06:34.54 | prolix | this is way off topic |
| 06:35.04 | nvz | you just noticed that eh? |
| 06:35.10 | nvz | you must be sleepy too.. |
| 06:35.11 | debCarlos | lol |
| 06:35.20 | prolix | i thought it would subside |
| 06:35.21 | debCarlos | i was just going to say it :P |
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| 06:35.50 | nvz | well apparently you don't know me.. and unlike me, none of you are in #debian-offtopic which is dead right now |
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| 06:36.12 | prolix | i'll join you there so the nearly 1000 other souls in here can use the space for its original intent |
| 06:36.15 | prolix | how's that sound? |
| 06:36.40 | nvz | sounds like a plan if it were not for the fact I should probably just init 0 right about now.. heh |
| 06:37.03 | prolix | acceptable as well. i'm done and i hope you are, too |
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| 06:37.28 | nvz | yeah its not so much the sleep part I have trouble with, its the waking up that sucks |
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| 06:37.33 | nvz | the more you sleep the more you want to it seems |
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| 06:37.44 | nvz | which is why I think I need to just learn to live without it |
| 06:37.46 | debCarlos | ye |
| 06:38.04 | nvz | just haven't figured out the logistics of that yet |
| 06:38.08 | p1ngp0ng | well, i need ot sleep now. 7.5 hours and i need to go to work |
| 06:38.15 | p1ngp0ng | i hate my life : \ |
| 06:38.32 | nvz | heh.. yeah its 2:38am here, I got classes at like 7:45 |
| 06:38.52 | nvz | and gotta be up way before then if I plan to have any breakfast |
| 06:40.10 | nvz | one thing I am fairly certain of though is that I will likely be back in here slightly more focused in a few hours when I'm trying to ignore my classes |
| 06:40.24 | nvz | as for right now, I guess a little sleep won't kill me |
| 06:40.29 | debCarlos | hehe |
| 06:41.22 | p1ngaway | allright. thats |
| 06:41.24 | p1ngaway | it |
| 06:41.29 | p1ngaway | nice chat nvz |
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| 06:41.30 | p1ngaway | later |
| 06:42.41 | sCOTTo | dam |
| 06:42.42 | sCOTTo | sorry guys |
| 06:42.55 | sCOTTo | anyone got any answers for me? - just got a talkative visitor. |
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| 06:43.18 | sCOTTo | might come and chat more tomorrow. |
| 06:43.19 | sCOTTo | goners |
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| 06:43.51 | bunnyto | damn... |
| 06:44.00 | bunnyto | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:44.06 | bunnyto | what is the name of the flash adobe package? |
| 06:44.42 | jon_ | to avoid crashing... keep yo eyes on da road and yo hands upon the wheel... |
| 06:44.42 | debCarlos | flashplugin-nonfree ? |
| 06:45.46 | debCarlos | what's the command to burn discs ? |
| 06:45.56 | bunnyto | thanks |
| 06:46.03 | micols | which lpd/lpr tool should i use for cups? so i can just echo foo|lpr or lpd ? |
| 06:46.03 | bunnyto | erm... cdrecord i think |
| 06:46.09 | micols | i already have cups setup |
| 06:46.16 | debCarlos | i'll try |
| 06:46.24 | bunnyto | how to tell iceweasel to use adobe flash? |
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| 06:46.53 | jelly-home | micols: "lp", then |
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| 06:51.37 | bunnyto | how to install google bar in iceweasel? |
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| 06:55.49 | debCarlos | echo "use the damn flash thing now! it's an order >.<" > iceweasel ? |
| 06:56.32 | jake_ | flash is stable now? |
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| 06:56.58 | jake_ | or backports? |
| 06:57.10 | et | debCarlos: replace iceweasel with `which iceweasel` |
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| 06:57.16 | pist0l-fish | hi all. I installed debian + xfce on an old machine and have booted and am now running xfce. It appears as if no network manager is running. Does anyone know how to start it? |
| 06:57.18 | up365 | bunnyto, type about:config in Nav toolbar - scroll down to general.useragent.extra.firefox - edit/modify value to Firefox and you're set |
| 06:57.20 | debCarlos | lol |
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| 07:01.26 | jake_ | whats up with the shitty fonts in lenny.. it really hurts my eyes |
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| 07:01.57 | jake_ | found this page http://squad17.org/node/16 |
| 07:02.23 | jake_ | but not able to find the file it asks me to edit : ".font.conf" |
| 07:10.19 | micols | jelly-home: which package is that? |
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| 07:13.24 | micols | well it is cupsys-client |
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| 07:34.17 | hejux | hi |
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| 07:38.52 | cranksmr | Good day, gens |
| 07:38.58 | bunnyto | what are the highest advantages of Debian Vs Ubuntu? |
| 07:39.36 | Lagbolt | bunnyto, more people in here will talk to you :-p |
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| 07:40.08 | OpenTokix | bunnyto: You will not get Debian Unstable under the notion of "a LTS release" |
| 07:40.11 | faileas | lol |
| 07:40.22 | epsilon | LOL |
| 07:40.24 | Lagbolt | OpenTokix, ah yeah . . very nice |
| 07:40.36 | bunnyto | what is LTS release? |
| 07:40.48 | faileas | bunnyto: its to do with ubuntu cycles |
| 07:40.51 | OpenTokix | bunnyto: Long Temr Shitstorm |
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| 07:41.00 | OpenTokix | bunnyto: or with ubuntu: Long Term Support |
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| 07:41.10 | OpenTokix | bunnyto: it's their five-six year supported release |
| 07:41.26 | OpenTokix | bunnyto: the IDEA is pretty good, the execeution of said idea.. not so |
| 07:41.30 | epsilon | like WIndows 98 |
| 07:41.39 | OpenTokix | epsilon: yeah, windows 98 |
| 07:41.40 | faileas | debian pretty much has a 'it bloody works and we won't touch it unless its a security update' (stable), 'somewhat newer' (unstable) and 'bleeding edge' versions at once... |
| 07:41.52 | faileas | ubuntu has releases twice a year |
| 07:41.58 | OpenTokix | Gnu/Win98 also known as Hardy Homo |
| 07:42.02 | faileas | prefers debian for servers, and ubuntu for laptops |
| 07:42.17 | OpenTokix | faileas: Fair enough |
| 07:42.26 | OpenTokix | I perfekt debian for servers and OS X for laptops =) |
| 07:42.51 | faileas | ubuntu does support more hardware, personally, and dosen't have the same uberstrict standards for software freedom debian has |
| 07:42.57 | faileas | which is both a good and a bad thing ;p |
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| 07:44.09 | Lagbolt | faileas, supports more hardware? you think? i think they just compile drivers available into their prebuilt kerns |
| 07:44.39 | faileas | Lagbolt: which isn't too bad when you can't be bothered to chase down drivers ;p |
| 07:45.05 | Lagbolt | faileas, chase down? i guess it depends. . . m-a . . . and there they are |
| 07:45.21 | simonrvn | wow, so difficult |
| 07:45.22 | Lagbolt | faileas, ubuntu just takes the learning out of it |
| 07:45.22 | faileas | Lagbolt: not to mention restricted drivers, and better third party repos? |
| 07:45.44 | simonrvn | ...which is tame compared to sid |
| 07:45.48 | faileas | Lagbolt: as i said, i use both. my servers tend to run debian, my laptop runs kubuntu. |
| 07:45.56 | Lagbolt | faileas, are you serious? lol all that stuff is available in debian :) |
| 07:46.13 | Lagbolt | the diff is they package it all up for people so they dont have to learn anything |
| 07:46.16 | simonrvn | "universe" is a fraction of sid |
| 07:46.22 | faileas | Lagbolt: lets see.. debian multimedia vs medibuntu? |
| 07:46.27 | simonrvn | it's mostly sid stuff, rebuilt.... |
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| 07:46.41 | simonrvn | (plus patches, extra scripts, etc.) |
| 07:46.45 | Lagbolt | faileas, um what is that supposed to mean? lol |
| 07:46.50 | OpenTokix | I find it very intresting ppl run ubuntu left and right, but is afarid of sid |
| 07:47.06 | simonrvn | sid is the mean kid |
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| 07:47.25 | faileas | Lagbolt: they both have the same purpose- medibuntu is fairly stable. debian multimedia occationally breaks stuff |
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| 07:47.33 | simonrvn | also there's a certain expectation to contribute back |
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| 07:47.35 | christianp | hi all |
| 07:47.41 | faileas | simonrvn: might be the whole volatile title ? ;p |
| 07:47.57 | simonrvn | what does volatile have to do with sid? |
| 07:48.18 | simonrvn | is thinking the official debian repo for etch |
| 07:48.40 | christianp | how can i launch the tool to choose the debian sources to download packages to? i remember some times ago someone tell me an apt-something to do this, but i can't remember what. ;) |
| 07:48.41 | doudou | When i use xterm and the history of my commands if i played ten times ls -l, the up arrow will show me all, is there a version who keep only one if they are same? |
| 07:48.48 | faileas | simonrvn: IIRC, there's three releases of debian at once? stable (currently etch) unstable (currently lenny) and one more, which is always called sid? |
| 07:49.02 | simonrvn | doudou: it's a shell option. man bash |
| 07:49.04 | faileas | christianp: editing repos? |
| 07:49.12 | doudou | thanks |
| 07:49.24 | Lagbolt | goodness. . . |
| 07:49.29 | simonrvn | faileas: your point being? the only one that's released is stable. |
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| 07:49.37 | christianp | faileas, yes, but in a "automatic way", the one is launched when i install |
| 07:49.38 | Lagbolt | faileas, lenny is not unstable |
| 07:49.42 | Lagbolt | lenny is testing :) |
| 07:49.47 | faileas | ahh |
| 07:50.02 | Lagbolt | sid is unstable |
| 07:50.10 | faileas | simonrvn: i'm using lenny on a system cause i couldn't get a particular driver to work on lenny |
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| 07:50.12 | faileas | Lagbolt: oops |
| 07:50.22 | simonrvn | faileas: are you trying to prove something? |
| 07:50.25 | faileas | simonrvn: oh, and i DID compile the driver, it just didn't work |
| 07:50.46 | Lagbolt | faileas, what driver cant you get working? |
| 07:50.48 | OpenTokix | faileas: Lenny is testing, sid is unstable |
| 07:50.51 | faileas | simonrvn: well the same thing i was saying earlier. debian stable just dosen't always have the greatest hardware support |
| 07:50.57 | OpenTokix | Lenny is also frozen |
| 07:51.01 | Lagbolt | faileas, backports, etchandhalf |
| 07:51.11 | simonrvn | !etchnhalf |
| 07:51.14 | OpenTokix | I am actually running Lenny on one productionsystem |
| 07:51.15 | faileas | Lagbolt: for some wierd reason, i can NEVER EVER get ralink cards to work |
| 07:51.24 | simonrvn | !etchandahalf |
| 07:51.33 | simonrvn | bah |
| 07:51.40 | KnuckOne | YOU faileas ;) |
| 07:51.41 | Lagbolt | dpkg is MIA? lol |
| 07:51.49 | faileas | Lagbolt/ simonrvn : yeah tried that. i had some other issues with that. i think the most recent java... it was in apt, and not installable |
| 07:51.52 | simonrvn | ravenbird: etchnhalf |
| 07:51.55 | ravenbird | simonrvn: wish i knew |
| 07:51.58 | KnuckOne | i got 3 different ralink chip and get all working on etch & lenny |
| 07:52.00 | faileas | ended up with lenny, which works well enough |
| 07:52.02 | simonrvn | i do too |
| 07:52.22 | hejux | hi |
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| 07:52.27 | faileas | KnuckOne: nice for you; i had problems getting damn near anything ralink working unless it was supported on the kernel |
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| 07:52.41 | KnuckOne | it's just that you can't use the usual network managers to get it working, excepted with the brand new drivers on 2.6.24+ |
| 07:52.44 | Lagbolt | faileas, and how did you try to make ralink work? |
| 07:52.57 | hejux | man |
| 07:53.04 | KnuckOne | yep faileas it's what i'm saying |
| 07:53.09 | faileas | Lagbolt: compiled the driver off the rtsomething site... |
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| 07:53.23 | Lagbolt | rt? is it a realtek? |
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| 07:53.36 | KnuckOne | wow you just just had to use 'm-a a-i rt<something>' ;) |
| 07:53.44 | KnuckOne | no Lagbolt it's ralink |
| 07:53.46 | faileas | KnuckOne: it worked on the last 2 -3 releases of ubuntu. i had another issue with that... |
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| 07:54.20 | faileas | KnuckOne: nice. no howto i looked up mentioned that, and i ended up using module assistant for the soundcard on that box anyway ;p |
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| 07:54.32 | KnuckOne | faileas, it's in the wiki :p |
| 07:54.38 | faileas | that particular system is on lenny |
| 07:54.57 | simonrvn | wonders when #d will get back on-topic |
| 07:55.02 | faileas | KnuckOne: for how long? i'd tried this a year ago, gave up, and popped ubuntu then lenny on it ;p |
| 07:55.10 | KnuckOne | http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/rt2500 |
| 07:55.18 | faileas | nice |
| 07:55.22 | Lagbolt | yeah i see lots on rt2500 |
| 07:55.24 | KnuckOne | for example the 2500, but the 73 and others are also in the wiki |
| 07:56.00 | faileas | neat |
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| 07:56.42 | KnuckOne | usually it's better to use the legacy drivers, because the one in the kernel are not 100% fully operational for all chips |
| 07:56.51 | faileas | *nods* |
| 07:57.05 | Henry-Nicolas | Hello everybody, I'v got a question about mdadm. If I have an array of 3 disks, I want to remove one of them, I use --remove but now I'v got a [UU_] in my /proc/mdstat, how can I tell the system that the third disk won't be there anymore ? |
| 07:58.07 | simonrvn | fail it, then remove |
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| 07:59.07 | Henry-Nicolas | simonrvn : and then, my array will only contain 2 disks ? |
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| 07:59.33 | simonrvn | should. that's what i did to stop a raid1 setup |
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| 08:00.02 | Henry-Nicolas | ok thx |
| 08:00.08 | bunnyto | may i use Medibuntu repositories with Debian Lenny ? |
| 08:00.55 | doudou | how do i know my libc version? |
| 08:01.11 | simonrvn | bunnyto: no |
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| 08:01.19 | simonrvn | doudou: dpkg -l libc6 |
| 08:01.22 | craigevil | bunnyto: no, not a good idea to mix debian and ubuntu |
| 08:01.40 | simonrvn | !version |
| 08:01.43 | bunnyto | then, where we can get cool stuff? |
| 08:01.48 | KnuckOne | use dmm bunnyto |
| 08:01.49 | KnuckOne | !dmm |
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| 08:01.58 | simonrvn | ravenbird: debian-multimedia |
| 08:02.01 | ravenbird | is a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for various legal reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat. For instructions to add APT sources, ask me about <debian-multimedia.etch>. |
| 08:02.08 | hejux | hi |
| 08:02.21 | bunnyto | w00t |
| 08:02.22 | faileas | spare bot? ;p |
| 08:02.26 | bunnyto | how to? |
| 08:03.50 | bunnyto | wow |
| 08:03.51 | hejux | hejux |
| 08:03.53 | simonrvn | bunnyto: how to what? |
| 08:04.13 | hejux | hejux |
| 08:04.18 | KnuckOne | ravenbird: debian-multimedia.etch |
| 08:04.18 | ravenbird | To add the debian-multimedia repository, first ask me about <apt-key 1F41B907>. then, run # echo "deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list; apt-get update; (as root), or install the debian-multimedia-keyring package from the debian-multimedia.org repository. |
| 08:04.45 | KnuckOne | is there a bot howto around :p ? |
| 08:05.03 | bunnyto | but im using lenny |
| 08:05.09 | simonrvn | just /msg it 'help' (no quotes) |
| 08:05.21 | simonrvn | bunnyto: so change etch for lenny ... |
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| 08:05.35 | bunnyto | deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org lenny main |
| 08:05.48 | KnuckOne | yes bunnyto |
| 08:05.54 | KnuckOne | thanks for the tip simonrvn |
| 08:06.03 | simonrvn | this stuff isn't hard. just gotta sit and think about a bit |
| 08:06.11 | simonrvn | about it* |
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| 08:19.04 | bunnyto | help! |
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| 08:19.14 | bunnyto | how may i change the flash player by default? |
| 08:19.45 | Supaplex | !flash |
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| 08:20.03 | Supaplex | !test |
| 08:20.10 | Supaplex | pity. no dpkg. |
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| 08:20.34 | iixz | hi ive got a webcam and it doesnt write what brand it is or model number how can i find drivers for it ? |
| 08:20.53 | simonrvn | &non-free |
| 08:20.53 | ravenbird | A component which contains software that does not comply with the <DFSG>. To add non-free packages to your packages index, ask me about <non-free sources>. To see which non-free packages are installed on your system, ask me about <vrms>. For the non-free tracking system, see http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/ . |
| 08:21.16 | simonrvn | bunnyto: add those "contrib non-free" to sources.list |
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| 08:21.42 | simonrvn | dpkg: you're just going to get ghosted |
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| 08:22.12 | simonrvn | dpkg: anyone can see you're not the bot |
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| 08:22.15 | bunnyto | simonrvn: i added, and i installed the adobe flash player, but iceweasel still using that nasty SWF player |
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| 08:22.26 | simonrvn | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:22.26 | wols | bunnyto: uninstall your current flash plugin and install the one you want |
| 08:22.30 | simonrvn | dumbass |
| 08:22.32 | ehtom | anyone know where the nvidia packages for debian lenny are? |
| 08:22.48 | wols | ehtom: they don't exist. you need to backport sources from sid |
| 08:22.57 | bunnyto | yes, but when i try to uninstall it says: "gnome also will be uninstalled" |
| 08:22.58 | ehtom | annoying... |
| 08:22.59 | wols | bunnyto: install swfdec then |
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| 08:23.07 | ehtom | wols: whats the best way to do that? |
| 08:23.26 | bunnyto | wols: thast the problem, im trying to uninstall the swfdec falacy, but i cant |
| 08:23.29 | wols | ehtom: get nvidia-graphics-driver from sid (source package) |
| 08:23.37 | wols | bunnyto: pastebin your apt output |
| 08:23.40 | doudou | HI i found HISTCONTROL='ignoredups' i put it into a .bashrc with export HISTCONTROL='ignoredups' but when i come with a ssh session .bashrc does not work, should it? |
| 08:23.53 | ehtom | wols: is there any way I can do it which is compatible with apt-get upgrade? |
| 08:24.03 | wols | ehtom: yes. the backport is compatible |
| 08:24.28 | ehtom | ok |
| 08:25.00 | simonrvn | doudou: did you put it remotely? |
| 08:25.17 | bunnyto | wols: http://pastebin.com/m20afa6dc |
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| 08:25.24 | doudou | no i connected with ssh, used vi to edit it |
| 08:25.40 | wols | bunnyto: use apt! not dpkg |
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| 08:25.53 | simonrvn | ok, just checking. it's been known that people did such silly things. |
| 08:26.05 | bunnyto | wols oh ok.. how to unisntall with apt? |
| 08:26.20 | wols | bunnyto: man aptitude or man apt-get |
| 08:26.28 | ehtom | wols: i'm guessing that by the time of lenny's actual release, nvidia drivers will be included? |
| 08:26.40 | wols | ehtom: hopefully |
| 08:26.43 | simonrvn | ssh session is a lgin shell, so you'll have to include that |
| 08:27.05 | wols | ehtom: do you want to do the backport? |
| 08:27.50 | bunnyto | wols... aptitude wants to remove Gnome, if i mark swfcodec |
| 08:28.27 | wols | bunnyto: I asked you to pastebin the output. if you can't do it, solve you own problems |
| 08:28.43 | bunnyto | wols... how to output with aptitude? |
| 08:28.44 | ehtom | bunnyto: one slight word of warning... adobe's own flash plugin isn't exactly fantastic |
| 08:29.51 | bunnyto | wols http://pastebin.com/m265cc0e6 |
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| 08:35.36 | bunnyto | wols? |
| 08:36.56 | doudou | in fact i found in google answer : cp /etc/skel/bash_profile in ~ and mv .bash_profile .profile !! then it launches .bashrc, all this is strange |
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| 09:05.12 | atul | Hi, How to set wireless connection in debian, Etch ? |
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| 09:07.04 | epsilon | identify the chip/card and ask google |
| 09:07.30 | epsilon | to identify, start with lspci or lsusb |
| 09:07.39 | atul | epsilon, ok Thanks |
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| 09:53.41 | amol | hi to all what is package equivalent to lint in debain for error checking of c programs? |
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| 09:57.59 | tarzeau | !debain |
| 09:58.55 | tarzeau | amol: splint - A tool for statically checking C programs for bugs |
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| 10:00.29 | rebel_kid | lol |
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| 10:07.52 | mrglinux | hi I need libapache2-mod-auth-mysql for debian etch 64 bit is it exist ? |
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| 10:08.29 | flower | this is an example |
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| 10:09.06 | flower | ? |
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| 10:13.36 | flower | ? |
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| 10:15.06 | ivorw | flower: yes, that would work |
| 10:15.38 | ivorw | Except you want /mnt/sda2 rather than the physical device |
| 10:16.26 | doudou | Hi, HISTCONTROL=ignoredups works only if same command follows? if ls ls ls history keep ls but ls ps ls ps ls ps history keep ls ps ls ps ls ps !!! |
| 10:16.37 | flower | ivorw: so, tar cvpjf /mnt/sda2/backup.tar.bz2 ? |
| 10:16.52 | doudou | is there a command to get rid of same commands even if they dont follow? |
| 10:17.06 | ivorw | Where is /dev/sda2 mounted in your fstab? |
| 10:17.28 | flower | ivorw: it's not in my fstab |
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| 10:17.48 | ivorw | Ah, what kind of file system does it have on it? |
| 10:17.50 | flower | ivorw: its automounted (?) |
| 10:17.58 | flower | ivorw: ext3 |
| 10:18.11 | ivorw | What's the output of a mount command |
| 10:18.29 | ivorw | (with no parameters) |
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| 10:19.02 | ivorw | Does it contain any reference to /dev/sda2? |
| 10:19.32 | flower | ivorw: http://pastebin.com/m22f22a1 |
| 10:20.19 | flower | ivorw: don't think so |
| 10:20.33 | ivorw | Try mounting it manually as root. |
| 10:21.41 | ivorw | flower: /mnt is usually the place to do this kind of thing |
| 10:21.56 | flower | ivorw: I can find the device in the 'devices recently plugged in' in kde... |
| 10:22.00 | ivorw | mount -t ext3 /dev/sda2 /mnt |
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| 10:22.45 | doudou | seems nobody is enought foolish to tape ls ps ls ps ls ps |
| 10:22.52 | ivorw | Does the mount command succeed? |
| 10:23.46 | flower | ivorw: I think so http://pastebin.com/m53ad1b3c |
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| 10:24.53 | ivorw | flower: I meant the mount command with the explicit parameters |
| 10:24.56 | Dogfood | is there anyway to install the newest alsa drivers through apt-get? |
| 10:25.10 | flower | ivorw: yes |
| 10:25.22 | maurizio_ | doudou: I think HISTCONTROL=erasedups does what you want |
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| 10:26.13 | flower | ivorw: the /mnt/sda2 is showing up now with the mount command http://pastebin.com/m53ad1b3c |
| 10:26.33 | ivorw | flower: congrats. your disk is now mounted on /mnt and also available on /media/disk |
| 10:26.55 | ivorw | Try the tar command again with the full path. |
| 10:27.00 | flower | ivorw: thanks, should I also exclude /media in the backup command? |
| 10:27.18 | ivorw | Either use /media/disk or use /mnt |
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| 10:27.57 | ivorw | You might want to make a special mount point for future occasions if you want to do this kind of operation again |
| 10:28.02 | flower | ivorw: the tar command as user or root? |
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| 10:28.26 | flower | ivorw: yes i want that... do a time set backup with help of cron |
| 10:28.48 | doudou | thanks very much, seems my question could have been answered with reading man bash, but i supposed wrongly as debian installed ignoredups that it was the best option, thanks maurizio_ |
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| 10:29.19 | ivorw | Root will be more certain to work, getting round any permissions issues |
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| 10:29.37 | flower | ivorw: ok |
| 10:29.55 | flower | ivorw: how do i make a special mount point? |
| 10:30.14 | ivorw | flower: for your mount point, just create a new empty directory named whatever you want. e.g. /foo |
| 10:30.57 | flower | ivorw: mount -t ext3 /dev/sda2 /mnt/exthddhome for example? |
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| 10:31.12 | ivorw | Fine |
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| 10:31.43 | flower | ivorw: and what if another usb stick is also mounted? Do I get problems with my future time set backup? |
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| 10:32.14 | flower | ivorw: because sda2 is maybe not sda2 anymore but sdb2? |
| 10:35.34 | ivorw | you will need more than one mount point if you want both devices mounted |
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| 10:36.18 | ivorw | If you want the devices to automount for you, you can set this up in /etc/fstab |
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| 10:37.08 | ivorw | But if there's uncertainty about which device the stick will come in as, you're probably better off mounting manually |
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| 10:38.10 | ivorw | flower: hope that answers your question |
| 10:38.53 | flower | ivorw: if I have a automatic backup using cron, is the manually mount I did now sufficient? Or do I have to do it everytime I want to backup again? |
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| 10:41.50 | flower | ivorw: or stated different: should I set up my external hdd in fstab if I want to do a automatic backup (let say every day) or not? |
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| 10:46.12 | ivorw | That would be a good idea. |
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| 10:47.26 | flower | ivorw: ok, I'm backupping now, thanks |
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| 10:48.51 | ivorw | I think that once you've plugged in a USB device, the kernel remembers the ID. This means that having the backup device connected at boot time would be a good idea. (don't boot with another stick in at the same time, but OK to plug this in afterwards) |
| 10:49.14 | ivorw | You should be OK to unplug it after booting |
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| 10:50.16 | flower | ivorw: ok, but its not needed to have the external hdd in the fstab? |
| 10:51.06 | ivorw | If it's not there, you'd have to do the mount command manually. I'd recommend putting it in the fstab |
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| 10:53.15 | Dogfood | okay... Now I'm trying to install gcc with apt-get and it wants the installation CD, I don't have it right now so is there a way to make apt-get fetch the needed files from net? |
| 10:55.07 | rmrfchik | konqueror is frozen on "connect(27, {sa_family=AF_FILE, path=@/tmp/fam-paul-}, 110". |
| 10:55.21 | rmrfchik | how to fix gamin? |
| 10:56.11 | nkuttler | Dogfood: /msg ravenbird sources.list |
| 10:56.24 | Dogfood | ok |
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| 10:57.06 | flower | ivorw: in fstab, how is the syntax? |
| 10:57.18 | flower | like this: /dev/sda1 /mnt/exhddfile ext3 defaults 0 2 ? |
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| 10:58.17 | Dogfood | nkuttler: does that repo work for etch-and-half too or should I use something else? |
| 10:58.20 | epsilon | sounds standard |
| 10:58.32 | jk_ | hi can someone give me a hit where i can find information if my notebook wifi will work with debian? its a asus b50a with Intel® Wireless Wi-Fi Link 5100 |
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| 11:01.13 | jk_ | hi can someone give me a hit where i can find information if my notebook wifi will work with debian? its a asus b50a with Intel® Wireless Wi-Fi Link 5100 |
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| 11:03.37 | Dogfood | nkuttler: ...and I already have those in my sources.list... |
| 11:04.49 | rchi | jk_, http://intellinuxwireless.org/?n=downloads&f=ucode maybe |
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| 11:12.59 | sgnut | I have a djbdns data file with =example.com:192.1.1.80 but after tinydns-data djbdns server doesn't resolve dig -t A example.com as 192.1.1.80, any idea? |
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| 11:14.31 | micols | how is it i keep my ati driver between kernel compiles, can i specify a command line option when "make" ing for that? or do i need to manually copy it over from /lib/modules ? , i am making the same kernel version over and over again |
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| 11:18.12 | hero100era | you did't get sourse code, how can that possible? the way to use the ati driver is define it in xorg.conf |
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| 11:20.06 | dokma | hey guys! is there any automated website monitor tool for a debian box? I have some 20 sites on this dedicated box that need constant monitoring. |
| 11:20.30 | asg | dokma: nagios, zenoss |
| 11:20.42 | dokma | asg: thanks a lot mate |
| 11:20.45 | dokma | will look into those |
| 11:20.46 | wols | dokma: monitor for WHAT? |
| 11:20.55 | dokma | wols: for availability |
| 11:21.14 | wols | micols: do you use the ati.com .run installer? |
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| 11:26.38 | micols | yes wols |
| 11:26.51 | wols | micols: unsupported here. ask #ati or whatever |
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| 11:36.38 | mathiazz | hi, i have a debian machine exposed on the internet. when i connected on it throught the public network, my ssh session is closing after about 5 minutes hidle. where could i manage this time of connection? |
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| 11:41.18 | leOn | hello |
| 11:41.45 | mathiazz | hello |
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| 11:41.45 | werwolf02 | hi |
| 11:41.56 | werwolf02 | could somebody help me trying to builds inkscape |
| 11:41.58 | werwolf02 | *** Warning: The package version " 0.46+devel" is not a |
| 11:41.58 | werwolf02 | *** Warning: debian policy compliant one. Please specify an alternate one |
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| 11:42.04 | mathiazz | nobody has understand my question? |
| 11:42.11 | leOn | i wonder if it would be ok to place a link to an online petition regarding domain name squatting ... |
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| 11:42.31 | a-s` | I am banned at home on #debian |
| 11:42.39 | a-s` | Nobody can unban me please? |
| 11:42.46 | a-s` | I have already said that here |
| 11:42.54 | abrotman | you have to know your home IP |
| 11:43.13 | abrotman | or msg an op when you try to join |
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| 11:43.59 | leOn | abrotman: i take you for a reasonable and sensible guy ... regarding my question above ... do you think it would be ok if i pasted here the link to the petition? |
| 11:44.11 | a-s` | The message is something like " |
| 11:44.20 | abrotman | leOn: it's fairly offtopic |
| 11:44.21 | wols | leOn: not OK. not on topic |
| 11:44.37 | a-s` | "you cannot join #debian. You are banned (+b)" |
| 11:44.42 | abrotman | a-s`: we know what the message is .. we still need a hostmask |
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| 11:44.53 | a-s` | my ip is ... |
| 11:44.57 | a-s` | wait a moment |
| 11:45.11 | wols | werwolf02: warnings are no errors |
| 11:45.21 | werwolf02 | hi |
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| 11:45.32 | werwolf02 | the packge was not made |
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| 11:45.41 | leOn | ok .. no pasting then ... just thought more people would be interested since dns squatting affects us all nowadays ... if anyone would like to know the link to the petition, feel free to msg me |
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| 11:46.06 | wols | werwolf02: need more info. what you do, what the output is, etc |
| 11:46.06 | a-s` | 93.112.70.123 |
| 11:46.20 | werwolf02 | wols: compiling inkscape from svn |
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| 11:46.33 | wols | werwolf02: that is NOT enough info |
| 11:46.34 | a-s` | I looked at an email that I sent from at home. |
| 11:46.44 | werwolf02 | what do you need to know? |
| 11:46.51 | wols | I told you |
| 11:47.13 | a-s` | i have never connected on #debian from home |
| 11:47.14 | werwolf02 | I do checkinstall |
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| 11:47.21 | a-s` | I have always been banned |
| 11:48.08 | wols | werwolf02: until you give LOTS more info, I doubt anyone can (or will) help you. and having to ask you for every little thing makes everyone very reluctant to help you. |
| 11:48.22 | abrotman | a-s`: i don't see any ban that matches that |
| 11:48.30 | werwolf02 | wols: the problem is I am a beginner in Debian |
| 11:48.39 | abrotman | a-s`: unless you're banned by your username |
| 11:48.51 | a-s` | I do not know... |
| 11:49.03 | werwolf02 | wols: beeing on SID |
| 11:49.04 | abrotman | well .. what's your username at home? |
| 11:49.10 | abrotman | please don't tell me you're IRCing as root |
| 11:49.12 | werwolf02 | SIDux |
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| 11:49.29 | a-s` | if I had been banned by the username, I would have been banned here too. It;s the same username |
| 11:49.35 | wols | werwolf02: that is two reasons why no one will help you. beginner and sid. sid is not for beginners. please stop talking to me until you give the info requested. HAND |
| 11:49.36 | werwolf02 | I can run it from src |
| 11:49.42 | a-s` | the problem is some ip |
| 11:49.43 | abrotman | and it's sidux |
| 11:50.00 | wols | abrotman: what is? |
| 11:50.09 | abrotman | wols: he just said he's using sidux |
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| 11:50.23 | abrotman | a-s`: /mode #debian +b or +q .. i don't see your IP listed |
| 11:50.25 | werwolf02 | is a SID-based distro |
| 11:50.25 | wols | oh. werwolf02 please ask #sidux. we cannot help you |
| 11:50.39 | werwolf02 | ok, thank you |
| 11:50.43 | abrotman | on irc.oftc.net |
| 11:50.44 | wols | werwolf02: it isn't debian. please don't argue. NO ONE will ever help sidux users here |
| 11:50.55 | werwolf02 | wols: is not it? |
| 11:50.58 | werwolf02 | :O |
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| 11:51.06 | wols | !tell werwolf02 about sidux |
| 11:51.06 | abrotman | it's debian-based |
| 11:51.19 | wols | damn don needs to fix his bot! |
| 11:51.24 | werwolf02 | so basicaly debain |
| 11:51.27 | werwolf02 | ok, bye |
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| 11:52.39 | et | you should tell guys like that to ln -sf /dev/random /etc/profile |
| 11:53.03 | werwolf02 | Tell them you have compiled the inkscape svn build and it runs correctly, but you want to use checkinstall to add it to the debian apt database, checkinstall fails when you run it. |
| 11:53.18 | werwolf02 | wols ? |
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| 11:53.27 | werwolf02 | is thes the necesorry info? |
| 11:54.19 | wols | werwolf02: we don't support sidux no matter how much info you provide. please STOP |
| 11:54.39 | werwolf02 | the database is debian |
| 11:54.46 | wols | no it's sidux |
| 11:54.49 | wols | puts werwolf02 on ignore |
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| 11:58.05 | EpicPanda1 | debian based != debian |
| 11:58.13 | EpicPanda1 | just like ubuntu shouldn't be supported here |
| 11:59.11 | OpenTokix | EpicPanda1: =) |
| 12:00.12 | enouf | ~yo |
| 12:00.13 | apt | Yo wazzaaaap my brotha?! |
| 12:00.21 | enouf | ahh, there you are |
| 12:00.24 | shahri | ~yoho |
| 12:00.28 | shahri | ~yo |
| 12:00.29 | apt | Yo wazzaaaap my brotha?! |
| 12:00.33 | shahri | hm |
| 12:00.38 | shahri | mysterious |
| 12:00.41 | EpicPanda1 | apt-get install bot |
| 12:00.43 | shahri | ~help |
| 12:01.21 | shahri | where is wtf? |
| 12:01.25 | shahri | mh |
| 12:01.33 | EpicPanda1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:01.35 | apt | Yo wazzaaaap my brotha?! |
| 12:01.35 | shahri | apt: where can I find wtf? |
| 12:01.35 | apt | wtf is probably what that's fine? |
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| 12:01.46 | shahri | apt: where can I find grammar? |
| 12:01.47 | apt | extra, extra, read all about it, grammar is a system of pitfalls thoughtfully prepared for the feet for the self-made man, along the path by which he advances to distinction. |
| 12:01.57 | shahri | o_O |
| 12:01.59 | themill | shahri: leave the bot alone |
| 12:02.03 | shahri | okay |
| 12:02.22 | EpicPanda1 | apt: self destruct in 5 seconds |
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| 12:03.31 | jkp | hi all, running lenny and when i shutdown my machine via ssh i get asked on the console to "Give root password for maintenance" |
| 12:03.41 | jkp | it stops the machine shutting down: how can i disable this? |
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| 12:05.07 | werwolf02 | EpicPanda1: the core is debian |
| 12:05.16 | werwolf02 | dabian SID |
| 12:05.46 | faileas | werwolf02: dosen't matter. they have their own channel. ask there. |
| 12:06.00 | abrotman | werwolf02: stop arguing .. ask #sidux |
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| 12:07.14 | faileas | jkp: it usually tends to work for me. i assume you use su, then shutdown as root? |
| 12:07.26 | jkp | no, i did it via sudo |
| 12:07.31 | jkp | is that an issue? |
| 12:07.36 | faileas | possibly |
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| 12:07.55 | faileas | debian dosen't support sudo by default, so thats another possible level of errors ;p |
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| 12:08.08 | faileas | try it with su |
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| 12:09.49 | jkp | same thing |
| 12:09.55 | faileas | odd |
| 12:09.58 | heyuxiang | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:10.12 | jkp | error: '/etc/init.d/rc' existed outside the expected code flow |
| 12:10.12 | abrotman | heyuxiang: might want to change that |
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| 12:10.22 | heyuxiang | ... |
| 12:10.37 | heyuxiang | u see my passwd |
| 12:11.09 | themill | heyuxiang: it wasn't one of the finest moments in IRC history |
| 12:11.32 | up365 | 2`qzxdcv b |
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| 12:11.41 | jkp | doing a dist-uprade, lets see if its a bug thats fixed |
| 12:11.43 | heyuxiang | i don't know way |
| 12:11.45 | heyuxiang | why |
| 12:11.55 | agoodNando | How could I give USB filesystem read and write access for my user ? |
| 12:12.13 | heyuxiang | i have registered and identified my nick , i still can't talk in #archlinux |
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| 12:12.24 | heyuxiang | #archlinux :Please register with services and use the IDENTIFY command (/msg nickserv help) to speak in this channel |
| 12:12.27 | abrotman | you're not registered currently |
| 12:12.37 | Hanselmaus | hi, anyone know a good command line tool which can backup and restore from an imap server? We want to archive old messages automagically, but be able to recover them if need be |
| 12:12.42 | abrotman | heyuxiang: ask #freenode |
| 12:12.45 | heyuxiang | -NickServ- You are already logged in as heyuxiang. |
| 12:12.49 | abrotman | heyuxiang: ask #freenode |
| 12:12.53 | heyuxiang | ok |
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| 12:14.50 | jkp | faileas: i think it was a bug fixed in the latest lenny |
| 12:15.01 | faileas | jkp: that might explain it ;p |
| 12:15.26 | faileas | i keep my systems rather... obsessively up to date. poking my lenny box to see |
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| 12:16.03 | faileas | well once it boots up. its a spare laptop |
| 12:16.28 | bunnyto | helo? |
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| 12:17.32 | jkp | actually, no |
| 12:17.36 | jkp | faileas: still an issue |
| 12:17.49 | faileas | jkp: bleh.. |
| 12:17.51 | jkp | i cant get it to shutdown without being at the console at typing the root passwrd |
| 12:17.59 | jkp | this is a problem since its a headless server |
| 12:18.13 | jkp | actually even the it doesnt work |
| 12:18.16 | faileas | i don't want to shutdown my server to test ;p |
| 12:18.19 | faileas | jkp: try reboot/ |
| 12:18.20 | faileas | ? |
| 12:18.23 | jkp | reboot works |
| 12:18.24 | faileas | it? |
| 12:18.30 | jkp | but i want to shutdown the server |
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| 12:18.39 | jkp | oops - "even that doesnt work" |
| 12:18.46 | faileas | er.. there's another way to shutdown a linux box... |
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| 12:19.01 | faileas | init something? |
| 12:19.03 | jkp | halt? |
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| 12:19.12 | faileas | sorry, its been a while since i needed to do command line fu ;p |
| 12:19.20 | jkp | yeah, halt works |
| 12:19.41 | jkp | ok...id better remember that...its going to be a pain if i try to use shutdown remotely accidently |
| 12:19.51 | faileas | yay? |
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| 12:20.02 | jkp | y |
| 12:20.11 | Agiofws | is there a way to find out bios version while logged in ? ? |
| 12:20.33 | abrotman | dmdiecoe |
| 12:20.33 | fl0w | shouldn't debian sources be in /etc/sources for apt-get? |
| 12:20.34 | abrotman | bah .. |
| 12:20.41 | abrotman | !tell Agiofws about whats my hardware |
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| 12:20.46 | abrotman | Agiofws: maybe dmidecode |
| 12:20.57 | themill | ENOBOT |
| 12:21.01 | abrotman | dpkg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 12:21.11 | faileas | Agiofws: lshw maybe? |
| 12:21.15 | themill | apt, fix dpkg |
| 12:21.16 | apt | ACTION opens the hood of dpkg , looks inside and says "that'll be 500 dollars." |
| 12:21.34 | Agiofws | cool |
| 12:21.50 | faileas | oh--- k... |
| 12:22.04 | faileas | is there any way i can check my ip adddie without being root? |
| 12:22.17 | themill | faileas: run ifconfig |
| 12:22.23 | faileas | running an almost stock lenny system |
| 12:22.33 | faileas | themill: it only works as root dosen't it? ;p |
| 12:22.37 | jelly-home | faileas: how do you check it _when_ being root? |
| 12:22.39 | et | faileas: of course not |
| 12:22.43 | kriebel | jkp: look into molly-guard |
| 12:22.57 | faileas | jelly-home: ifconfig ;p |
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| 12:23.10 | jelly-home | faileas: it's just not in a user's default PATH |
| 12:23.15 | faileas | i know its there, i just think its annoying to have to switch to root just for that |
| 12:23.20 | abrotman | you don't have to |
| 12:23.27 | themill | faileas: /sbin/ifconfig |
| 12:23.30 | faileas | jelly-home: ahh.. so i either add it or use the full path for it? |
| 12:23.41 | faileas | ok cool |
| 12:23.45 | kriebel | sees the lightbulb |
| 12:23.46 | jelly-home | right |
| 12:24.41 | fl0w | I'm running etch, and I'd like to get the Solr package (http://packages.debian.org/sid/solr-tomcat5.5)? What mirrors should I add to my sources.list? I'm being totally stupid here :) |
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| 12:24.53 | fl0w | (debian 4.0) according to /etc/debian_version |
| 12:25.48 | fl0w | oh, I finally found the link :) |
| 12:26.10 | fl0w | ooooooooh, finally I get how packages.debian.org works :) yay |
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| 12:29.01 | fl0w | bah, "broken packages" |
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| 12:32.04 | themill | fl0w: you can't just grab a package from sid and stuff it into etch that way |
| 12:32.27 | fl0w | yea .. |
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| 12:32.35 | faileas | jkp: reboot works on my lenny system. gonna try shutdown once its rebooted |
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| 12:33.29 | datacrusher | hi folks, i got a samba server, and setted a hp usb printer on the server, i can see it fron cups, but on the windows share the printer is showed 2 times, on the //server/ folder, and on a //server/printers folder. Any of the printers i cann add, and send jobs to it, but on the server on the web interface it says "open printer channel failed, wil retry in 30 seconds" |
| 12:33.35 | datacrusher | and dont print anything... any clues? |
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| 12:39.36 | cyzie | any package own this file ? /lib/libIGUtils.so |
| 12:39.57 | abrotman | ~search |
| 12:39.58 | apt | rumour has it, search is try 'apt-cache search <regex>', if you want to know what package owns a file use dpkg -S /bin/foo. To find a package based on what files it includes use 'apt-get install apt-file;apt-file update;apt-file search foo'. Use http://packages.debian.org if you're not on a debian system. /msg apt find <thing> if you're already here. |
| 12:40.13 | themill | it's not in etch |
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| 12:41.57 | a-s` | abrotman: yes, but I am blocked :( |
| 12:42.18 | abrotman | a-s`: your IP doesn't appear .. when will you be home again to try? |
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| 12:42.47 | flower | is it possible to have a sort of combination between a tar backup (which saves space) and rsync (which only saves file parts)? |
| 12:43.13 | abrotman | ~info rdiff-backup etch |
| 12:43.15 | abrotman | maybe? |
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| 12:44.26 | Laibsch | Hi there. I have small, cheap NAS box. When I copy files to it over Samba, they become corrupted, the md5sum changes. Copying from a Windows computer works fine. Anybody have an idea about this? I already found out that I have to disable Unix extensions to get it working: http://blog.leggewie.org/?p=42 |
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| 12:45.08 | themill | flower: see also rsnapshot which only saves files that have changed. Not quite only saving deltas and tarring small files, but still quite space efficient and each backup looks like a full backup so restoring bits is really really easy |
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| 12:45.27 | jkp | faileas: any luck? |
| 12:45.30 | js_ | the linux-image package is set up to build a lot of packages, but i only want it to build a specific one. is there an option i can use to choose which one to build? |
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| 12:45.49 | faileas | jkp: reboot works, still mucking with shutdown but i seem to have the same issue |
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| 12:46.13 | jkp | seems like a bug then |
| 12:46.26 | Pablo_ | nice |
| 12:46.30 | Pablo_ | loves bugs =) |
| 12:46.45 | trigpin | need help installing tor get error http://pastebin.com/mc7a9714 |
| 12:47.02 | faileas | jkp: its an old box so.. its taking me a while to reboot ;p |
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| 12:47.44 | Laibsch | trigpin: are you sure tor is not yet running? |
| 12:47.48 | Laibsch | Try a different port |
| 12:48.45 | heyuxiang | hi |
| 12:48.51 | faileas | o0 i'm told i have mail when i log in from ssh |
| 12:48.53 | trigpin | Laibsch, yes ran top and looked in system moniter |
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| 12:49.29 | faileas | jkp: i'm wondering if halting and skipping the shutdown script might work |
| 12:50.12 | jkp | halting did work |
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| 12:53.01 | DimmuR| | is there any simple way to disable/enable synaptics touchpad in notebook? |
| 12:53.16 | j_engelh | Where might I find older (but not too old) versions of packages? The ftp only has the one for oldstable/stable and current, but the versions are very apart. |
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| 12:54.23 | abrotman | j_engelh: what else would you like? |
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| 12:54.42 | adnc | hello, is it possible to get a list of upgradable packages on my installation? |
| 12:55.03 | j_engelh | abrotman: say, there is iptables-1.3.8.deb(src) and iptables-1.4.1.1.deb(src), and I'd like to grab (if available) 1.4.0deb(src) |
| 12:55.03 | abrotman | aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade .. should show you packages before doing anything |
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| 12:55.18 | abrotman | or man aptitude for more options |
| 12:55.31 | abrotman | j_engelh: you can try snapshot.debian.net |
| 12:56.30 | bunnyto | if he was a girl |
| 12:56.56 | adnc | abrotman: and if i wanted to upgrade only those from the security affected packages |
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| 12:57.10 | j_engelh | abrotman: wonderful. thank you! |
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| 12:58.15 | DimmuR| | adnc, you can type apt-get dist-upgrade -V to get list of packages and versions |
| 12:59.24 | enouf | apt: why won't you talk to me in PM like dpkg does :-/ |
| 12:59.24 | apt | why not? |
| 12:59.35 | enouf | yes, why not you twit |
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| 12:59.53 | aliases123 | ~apt slap enouf |
| 12:59.54 | apt | ACTION slaps enouf, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 13:00.11 | enouf | whips out his tentacles :-p |
| 13:00.19 | adnc | i get such an error when getting mail from mail.google.com can someon help me interprete this log entry |
| 13:00.23 | adnc | Sep 22 11:50:29 mail dkim-filter[7707]: 68C1234BB4 SSL error:04067069:rsa routines:RSA_EAY_PUBLIC_DECRYPT:pkcs1 padding too |
| 13:00.30 | adnc | short |
| 13:00.52 | stew | enouf: aptitude will |
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| 13:01.08 | enouf | stew: i didn't find aptitude online :-/ |
| 13:01.17 | stew | try again |
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| 13:01.30 | aptitude | Okay, I'm here. (courtesy of stew). I can be addressed with '&' |
| 13:01.58 | enouf | stew: hah - better - thanks |
| 13:02.25 | themill | &wb |
| 13:02.25 | ravenbird | thanks, themill. It's good to be back. |
| 13:02.33 | themill | definite fail |
| 13:02.40 | stew | wierd |
| 13:02.51 | pngwn | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:03.01 | abrotman | adnc: why? |
| 13:03.16 | adnc | abrotman: i did not understand your question "why" |
| 13:03.23 | adnc | why i need help |
| 13:03.26 | abrotman | adnc: what other packages are there to install ? |
| 13:03.44 | adnc | abrotman: ohh, no i installed them, no other packages are necessary anymore |
| 13:03.50 | abrotman | uh ok |
| 13:03.53 | nvz | adnc: are you using postfix? |
| 13:03.57 | adnc | abrotman: thank you very much for this |
| 13:04.01 | adnc | mvz yes postfix |
| 13:04.11 | enouf | stew: ouch, no response from a "ipw3965" for example .. though aptitude did answer my hello :-/ .. does aptitude also have listvals/listkeys available? |
| 13:04.13 | adnc | and dkim-filter and dk-filter |
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| 13:05.20 | nvz | adnc: http://lists.mailscanner.info/pipermail/mailscanner/2008-April/084314.html |
| 13:05.34 | nvz | adnc: that thread has some suggested fixes for such a problem |
| 13:05.53 | adnc | mvz thank you, did you have it aswell? |
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| 13:06.20 | stew | enouf: oh, yikes, yeah, the database is empty |
| 13:06.22 | nvz | nope I don't and never have used either package |
| 13:06.25 | enouf | stew: i am getting responses - but i guess aptitude isnt up on wifi stuff |
| 13:06.30 | enouf | stew: ouch :-p |
| 13:06.30 | nvz | and FWIW my nick is nvz not mvz |
| 13:06.39 | adnc | nvz: ;) |
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| 13:06.54 | abrotman | was trying to figure out who "mvz" was |
| 13:06.57 | adnc | nvz: thank you |
| 13:06.59 | enouf | runs "mv nvz mvz" |
| 13:07.02 | et | most valuable zealot |
| 13:07.07 | adnc | no, nvz was ment |
| 13:07.11 | adnc | sorry for this |
| 13:07.12 | stew | ewps yeah, i drop the db, then download the factoids from dpkg. but the factoids weren't available from dpkg |
| 13:07.21 | flower | themill: rsnapshot to backup my /home is something like this?: backup /home/d/ /dev/sda2 ? And how do I exclude some folders or files? |
| 13:07.32 | adnc | short names are to short to make use of tab completion |
| 13:07.41 | abrotman | too? |
| 13:08.02 | enouf | well, for et, yeah :-p |
| 13:08.45 | enouf | flower: man rsync / rsnapshot, etc , see --exclude |
| 13:08.46 | nvz | yeah you can do nv[tab] but you gotta strech further than the z key.. so you're wasting your time |
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| 13:09.33 | adnc | nvz yes, the z key can be accessed firther with your showing finger than the tab with your little left finger, therefore ;) |
| 13:09.43 | flower | what is the advantage of rsnapshot in comparison with rsync? |
| 13:09.45 | adnc | s/firther/faster |
| 13:09.50 | nvz | however the letters are all in a row on a qwerty keyboard, much easier to type than adnc |
| 13:10.09 | adnc | nvz: yeahh thats true |
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| 13:11.03 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | abrotman, can you suggest me a good firewall for debian with a simple gui frontend ? |
| 13:11.10 | abrotman | vi |
| 13:11.25 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | vi ? : S its a bloody text editor |
| 13:11.36 | stew | sh4d3sl4y3r_: fwbuilder |
| 13:11.47 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | thank you |
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| 13:13.12 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | looks nice, thank you stew |
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| 13:15.35 | stew | aptitude: iwl3945 |
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| 13:15.51 | aptitude | Okay, I'm here. (courtesy of stew). I can be addressed with '&' |
| 13:15.54 | stew | aptitude: iwl3945 |
| 13:15.55 | aptitude | iwlwifi is the new driver for Intel 3945 and 4965 wireless chipsets, included in Debian kernels since 2.6.23. Add <non-free sources>, then "aptitude update && aptitude install firmware-iwlwifi". "modprobe iwl3945" or "modprobe iwl4965" depending on your device's chipset. See http://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi (particularly if you are switching from ipw3945). See also <wmaster0>, <wireless tree>, <iwlwifi etch>. #ipw2100 @ irc.freenode.net |
| 13:16.08 | enouf | stew: thanks |
| 13:16.20 | nvz | wanders off |
| 13:16.56 | flower | enouf, can't find an option to exclude a folder |
| 13:17.31 | enouf | flower: --exclude=/dir |
| 13:17.48 | flower | enouf, ok thanks |
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| 13:18.07 | themill | flower: the config file is well commented and the upstream website has lots of details and examples. I doubt /dev/sda2 would be right though. I usually use backup /home/d/ localhost/ . Use snapshot_root as /media/backupdisk/snapshots or similar (wherever this sda2 is mounted). |
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| 13:18.43 | themill | flower: in rsnapshot.conf there are lines "exclude pattern" so you can "exclude some/path". |
| 13:18.55 | frido | hi, is it possible in debian to recompile ffmpeg deb package to support mpeg2 encoders ? |
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| 13:20.15 | enouf | frido: hrm, not sure, but if not, just grab the dmm version and use/compile that |
| 13:21.04 | enouf | !tell frido about dmm |
| 13:21.20 | frido | enouf: http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.bugs.dist/browse_thread/thread/99cc40f163391f27/e5dba95f321c881e?lnk=raot |
| 13:21.22 | enouf | crap - it's not a ~ and not a @ .. what is it? |
| 13:21.45 | frido | enouf: here're steps which should works, but no success |
| 13:22.07 | abrotman | enouf: aptitude: ... :) |
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| 13:22.34 | stew | &dmm |
| 13:22.34 | aptitude | from memory, dmm is Debian Multimedia, a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for patent-related reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat. For information on how to use this repository, see http://debian-multimedia.org/ or ask me about <debian-multimedia.etch> |
| 13:22.45 | frido | enouf: colleague with medibuntu it get it to works. DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=internalencoders; debian/rules get-orig-source.sh; dpkg-buildpackage -us uc |
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| 13:23.10 | enouf | thanks for asking |
| 13:23.25 | themill | stew: what did you do to ravenbird? |
| 13:23.28 | enouf | stew: ahh - the good ol |
| 13:23.30 | enouf | stew: ahh - the good ol |
| 13:23.35 | enouf | dammit - |
| 13:23.48 | enouf | &blame enter key |
| 13:23.48 | aptitude | blames the-dude and enter key for the end of the world as we know it |
| 13:23.48 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | :S |
| 13:23.48 | ravenbird | blames enter key for all the evil in the world |
| 13:23.50 | stew | themill: stared menacingly |
| 13:24.00 | stew | bah |
| 13:24.02 | enouf | whoa |
| 13:24.14 | stew | wasn't ravenbird @ previously? |
| 13:24.15 | themill | not menacingly enough it would seem |
| 13:24.26 | enouf | usually |
| 13:24.36 | themill | stew: simon changed it because there were too many tards using @ as a prefix to highlight a person on channel. |
| 13:24.41 | enouf | someone linked it, altered the trigger? |
| 13:25.32 | enouf | abrotman: haha. . aba DUH.. (/me smacks head) |
| 13:25.34 | themill | stew: So it was learning all sorts of things that it shouldn't be and it was becoming a pain. like "@themill dpkg is working for me now" would teach it a factoid with key "themill dpkg". |
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| 13:27.09 | stew | so what should i use? % |
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| 13:27.18 | stew | +? +++ATH0? |
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| 13:28.17 | datacrusher | hi folks, i got an issue with my cups print sharing. I installed everyting ok, but after i print a test page, cups shows me " open print channel failed, will retry in 30 seconds.." |
| 13:28.25 | datacrusher | and sticks to it |
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| 13:29.38 | Akuw | how to set the system time ? |
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| 13:29.49 | aptitude | Okay, I'm here. (courtesy of stew). I can be addressed with '&' |
| 13:29.55 | stew | i suck |
| 13:30.11 | adnc | nvz: unfortunatelly the thread did not give any real help ;) |
| 13:30.16 | stew | %botsnack ? |
| 13:30.21 | themill | &comfort stew |
| 13:30.21 | aptitude | There, there, stew. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 13:30.21 | ravenbird | There, there, stew. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 13:30.34 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | :S |
| 13:30.37 | Dave2 | doublecomfort. |
| 13:30.52 | stew | how do i to be edited configurations files? |
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| 13:31.19 | aptitude | Okay, I'm here. (courtesy of stew). I can be addressed with '&' |
| 13:31.26 | stew | oh |
| 13:31.34 | stew | it like overwrites the file when it quites |
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| 13:33.13 | aptitude | Okay, I'm here. (courtesy of stew). I can be addressed with '%' |
| 13:34.10 | themill | %win stew |
| 13:34.11 | aptitude | Congratulations, stew! You have won the time-life collection of vintage AOL CDs, a set of 120! |
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| 13:38.03 | riot | hiya |
| 13:38.28 | riot | anyone using shrewsofts vpn-client? Is this mentioned trace-tool available for unix, too? |
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| 13:45.54 | JPT | hi, i've got some problems with my tv card... |
| 13:45.54 | JPT | http://nopaste.info/a9e35e40e4_nl.html |
| 13:46.10 | JPT | is there a simple way to solve the firmware problem ? |
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| 13:46.24 | flower | themill, could you take s quick look to my rsnapshot conf file? |
| 13:46.28 | flower | http://pastebin.com/m74088bd0 |
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| 13:49.21 | ^shark_ | !samba |
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| 13:51.18 | ^shark_ | !tell samba |
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| 13:54.07 | flower | themill, changed it a bit: http://pastebin.com/m3132d31a |
| 13:54.57 | abrotman | ^shark_: what are you looking for? samba.org? |
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| 13:59.07 | ^shark_ | abrotman: i am looking for info from dpkg on samba, need to ask something in there |
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| 13:59.30 | ^shark_ | abrotman: i need to learn how to set a password for a public samba share |
| 14:00.01 | abrotman | ask #samba or see samba.org for documentation |
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| 14:01.14 | ^shark_ | abrotman: ok although i have been at #samba and they look like they are sleeping, i am trying to read teh documentation for some help |
| 14:01.17 | aliases123 | ^shark_: how is it public if you set a password tho ? |
| 14:01.36 | abrotman | aliases123: a non-domain share ? |
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| 14:03.31 | DammitJim | hello |
| 14:03.52 | DammitJim | may I ask a question? |
| 14:04.10 | ^shark_ | aliases123: i'd like this share to be accessible by only a very few ppl and password protected, yes a non-domain share |
| 14:04.22 | DammitJim | what is this patch for? drivers-net-tg3-mark.patch |
| 14:04.46 | DammitJim | this patch does something like : remove_dfsg |
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| 14:04.56 | DammitJim | and my tg3 network card isn't working anymore :( |
| 14:05.12 | DammitJim | kernel is 2.6.26 |
| 14:05.21 | DammitJim | but I think this started with 2.6.25, maybe? |
| 14:05.43 | abrotman | DammitJim: probably removed the firmware |
| 14:08.14 | DammitJim | dammit |
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| 14:09.35 | DammitJim | weird |
| 14:10.06 | DammitJim | wonders why they would do that... it's for the Broadcom NetXtreme BCM5755M Gb ethernet card that comes in Dell Latitudes |
| 14:10.25 | aliases123 | DammitJim: i have it too. but i have'nt upgraded yet. |
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| 14:10.57 | DammitJim | aliases123, is that why you haven't upgraded? |
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| 14:12.37 | DammitJim | do you guys know why that patch exists? |
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| 14:14.35 | DammitJim | or where I can find info on it? |
| 14:14.52 | DammitJim | lol... or how I can revert it? |
| 14:14.53 | abrotman | DammitJim: which kernel are you using? |
| 14:14.58 | DammitJim | 2.6.26 |
| 14:15.08 | abrotman | i thought there was a new driver .. like b44 or something |
| 14:15.23 | DammitJim | is there, really? |
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| 14:15.56 | DammitJim | b44? let me see |
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| 14:16.07 | screamingbytes | mornin all |
| 14:16.07 | stew | DammitJim: the patch exists in order to try to remove pieces of the kernel which are non-free |
| 14:16.23 | DammitJim | stew, thank you... that seems to make sense |
| 14:16.42 | DammitJim | so, what do you guys suggest I do then? |
| 14:16.54 | screamingbytes | can anyone point me to the package for Twin on etch? Ive dug in the package search tool and google, and havn't been able to find alything that works. |
| 14:16.54 | abrotman | DammitJim: lspci -nn .. what is the pciid of the device? |
| 14:17.58 | DammitJim | I am not in that machine, but a regular lspci says: 09:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5755M Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express (rev 02) |
| 14:18.15 | DammitJim | from what I remember |
| 14:18.18 | abrotman | the -nn is for the PCIID |
| 14:18.24 | DammitJim | (or what I copied) lol |
| 14:18.26 | abrotman | which will help us tell you which driver |
| 14:18.42 | DammitJim | thank you, abrotman ... I will reboot and come back, then |
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| 14:19.41 | abrotman | if he was in elive .. why didn't he just get it from there? |
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| 14:22.29 | xittum | now start solving problems! my logfile needs an update :) |
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| 14:22.48 | sybariten | i just bought myself a "VPS" |
| 14:23.09 | omry_|work | hmm, seem to have lost audio in flash (lenny). anyone encountered this? |
| 14:23.18 | sybariten | but its a cheap-ass solution so it doesnt have "sudo" ... is that normal for a debian system? |
| 14:24.13 | xittum | sybariten: unless you set up sudo then yes.. su -> type pass is standard debian |
| 14:24.14 | joltcan | sybariten: Yeah, it's not installed with the base system, you have to apt-get install sudo |
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| 14:27.16 | chomwitt | trying to install debian from a sata optical drive the installation stuck in formating partiontions. |
| 14:27.17 | DammitJim | ok, I think this is what you guys were asking me |
| 14:27.19 | DammitJim | 09:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5755M Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express [14e4:1673] (rev 02) |
| 14:27.22 | DammitJim | does that help? |
| 14:27.27 | abrotman | yes |
| 14:27.32 | DammitJim | and actually it's kernel 2.6.25 |
| 14:27.46 | abrotman | nope .. says it's tg3 |
| 14:27.56 | abrotman | even on .26 |
| 14:27.57 | DammitJim | dammit |
| 14:28.01 | abrotman | aptitude: tg3 |
| 14:28.05 | abrotman | figured as much |
| 14:28.24 | DammitJim | and that patch removes tg3 because of non-free licensing? |
| 14:28.46 | abrotman | because tg3 contained firmware .. which is a no-no in the debian kernel |
| 14:28.52 | sybariten | joltcan: an interesting paragraph: i tried doing "sudo apt-get install sudo" |
| 14:29.13 | sybariten | clever, isn't it .... i use ubuntu now and then (no shit) so i am kinda used to doing things that way |
| 14:29.18 | abrotman | though one would think there'd be a tg3 firmware package |
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| 14:29.26 | DammitJim | yeah |
| 14:29.28 | joltcan | sybariten: :) |
| 14:29.31 | DammitJim | where should I go now, then? |
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| 14:29.48 | abrotman | the easy answer is broadcom.com |
| 14:30.02 | abrotman | maybe there's something in the kernel docs |
| 14:30.05 | DammitJim | download the driver and compile it? |
| 14:30.20 | sybariten | theres no snazzy dialog- or curses-based interface to user privilegies (such as who can sudo and not), as you've heard of is there? |
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| 14:30.46 | abrotman | DammitJim: moment |
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| 14:30.58 | DammitJim | ty, abchirk |
| 14:31.01 | DammitJim | abrotman, :) |
| 14:31.03 | zeta | this is bad. I keep getting kernel panics when I shutdown and everything freezes and I end up having to do a force shutdown. |
| 14:31.08 | abrotman | aptitude: beer abchirk |
| 14:31.09 | aptitude | pulls out an excellent Yuengling Lager for abchirk |
| 14:31.19 | DammitJim | Yuengling... the best! |
| 14:31.24 | abrotman | DammitJim: i don't see a mention of it in the changelog |
| 14:31.33 | abrotman | other than being removed |
| 14:31.40 | DammitJim | ugh |
| 14:31.59 | DammitJim | ok, so you suggest me going to broadcom.com and getting the firmware... |
| 14:32.06 | DammitJim | compiling it and installing it? |
| 14:32.16 | zeta | anyone? |
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| 14:33.11 | abrotman | DammitJim: i don't see a "debian" way |
| 14:33.25 | DammitJim | will ndiswrapper do it? |
| 14:33.29 | abrotman | i wouldn't bother with that |
| 14:33.34 | abrotman | they make a linux driver |
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| 14:34.12 | DammitJim | ok... what would I have to do with that linux driver? sorry... I'm learning... |
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| 14:34.39 | abrotman | DammitJim: if you `dmesg | grep tg3` .. get any useful errors ? |
| 14:35.10 | DawnLight | hi abrotman |
| 14:35.14 | DammitJim | no, nothing comes up |
| 14:35.54 | aeshyamae | hi all, got stuck configuring canon lbp 3000 in lenny.. neone have that? i just tried giving the ppd file at system-config-printer.. is that the standard way? |
| 14:36.15 | DammitJim | aeshyamae, are you using cups? |
| 14:36.39 | aeshyamae | hmm i havent done anything special about cups |
| 14:36.45 | aeshyamae | just a fresh lenny installl |
| 14:37.01 | aeshyamae | connected the printer and triggered system-config-printer |
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| 14:38.11 | aeshyamae | it had canon lbp3000 usb #1 in list and gave forward, until it asked about taking the file from database..there the list didnt have lbp3000 but upto some lbp1760 or so... so i downloaded the canon driver source from their site to get the ppd |
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| 14:38.48 | TiMiDo | hey i have a question how do you installed. an identd? |
| 14:39.25 | aeshyamae | ppd file.. and giving CNCUPSLBP3000CAPTK.ppd and CNCUPSLBP3000CAPTJ.ppd gave me No ID match for device usb://Canon/LBP3000: <manufacturer>Canon</manufacturer> <model>LBP3000</model> Using lsb/usr/cups-included/textonly.ppd |
| 14:39.33 | Sling | TiMiDo : apt-cache search identd |
| 14:39.34 | Sling | and pick one |
| 14:39.54 | TiMiDo | Sling: what do you think? |
| 14:40.17 | abrotman | DawnLight: hi |
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| 14:40.47 | Sling | TiMiDo : what i think? |
| 14:40.51 | aeshyamae | abrotman: ne idea about canon printer? |
| 14:41.02 | Sling | i think 'id like to be in bed now with 3 nice girls' |
| 14:41.04 | Sling | but is that relevant |
| 14:41.10 | abrotman | aeshyamae: i don't own a printer |
| 14:41.41 | aeshyamae | k:) |
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| 14:42.46 | tyler7382 | any chance someone can help me with autofs? |
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| 14:43.11 | Agiofws | what is better to host pics on my own server to get displayed or should i use something like flicker or picasa ? |
| 14:43.36 | DammitJim | :) |
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| 14:45.25 | abrotman | DammitJim: are you IRCing from that box now? |
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| 14:46.42 | DammitJim | yes, abrotman |
| 14:46.45 | DammitJim | over wifi |
| 14:46.46 | DammitJim | why? |
| 14:47.01 | abrotman | DammitJim: can you paste the output of `lspci -vnn` in paste.debian.net and give me the URL ? |
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| 14:47.10 | abrotman | DammitJim: i'm trying to ask the kernel people how to do that |
| 14:47.15 | DammitJim | will do |
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| 14:47.54 | Ryushin | What is a good program in linux to use instead of irfanview for windows? I normally use gqview but it's sorely lacking in some features that I like in irfanview. |
| 14:48.05 | abrotman | Ryushin: you're alive! |
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| 14:48.21 | VVytautas | feh |
| 14:48.31 | abrotman | i like eog .. |
| 14:48.37 | abrotman | depends what features you're looking for |
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| 14:49.19 | sybariten | damn one of the most helpful people on freenode passed away, it seems |
| 14:49.24 | DammitJim | http://paste.debian.net/17761/ |
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| 14:49.37 | Ryushin | abrotman: Yea, I'm a work-o-holic. I haven't been back here for awhile. |
| 14:49.43 | abrotman | i noticed :) |
| 14:49.45 | abrotman | DammitJim: thank you |
| 14:49.51 | DammitJim | no, thank you! |
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| 14:50.11 | abrotman | DammitJim: can i pick on you for buying dell? :) |
| 14:50.20 | DammitJim | of course! |
| 14:50.30 | DammitJim | I've bought 30 laptops from those suckers for my office |
| 14:50.41 | abrotman | who is the sucker? :) |
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| 14:50.45 | DammitJim | but I must say... Debian has always worked on them... I haven't had that many problems |
| 14:50.46 | abrotman | hides from petemc |
| 14:50.59 | abrotman | DammitJim: the problem here is that broadcom ... well .. sucks :) |
| 14:51.02 | DammitJim | is the sucker |
| 14:51.06 | petemc | locks abrotman in a dell server rack |
| 14:51.14 | abrotman | the DFSG complicates the matter .. but really broadcom is at fault |
| 14:51.27 | abrotman | petemc: i'd use my standard tools .. oh wait .. |
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| 14:51.47 | sybariten | Ryushin: most of them do, *nix is lacking in that area (and many others -which people/fanboys stubbornly denies- which is why they are worse desktop OSes compared to XP, in my opinion, but thats OT) |
| 14:51.47 | DammitJim | what is a better card? |
| 14:51.55 | Ryushin | I like the ease of use of irfanview for cropping and resizing images. I'm not having much success in getting irfanview to run under wine right now. |
| 14:51.55 | DammitJim | thinks that's why the laptops were so cheap ;) |
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| 14:52.12 | DammitJim | is gimp not intuitive? |
| 14:52.30 | basix | i have two questions for you guys: 1. When is kernel 2.6.27 likely to be released and appear in debian unstable? 2. Why the heck fedora guys get 2.6.27 rc in their updates before we do? :( |
| 14:52.33 | abrotman | DammitJim: why don't you ahve the .26 in lenny? |
| 14:52.34 | sybariten | Ryushin: buuuuut, still, there is an image viewer which i believe exists on both sides of the bible, and which i belive can battle Irfan in smoe areas... lemme see... |
| 14:52.47 | Ryushin | gimp is fine when I want to do heavy imaging on just one image. But the quickness of irfanview to manipulate a lot of pictures is just outstanding. |
| 14:52.49 | DammitJim | what do you mean, abrotman ? |
| 14:52.55 | abrotman | DammitJim: you're on lenny or etch? |
| 14:53.10 | VVytautas | imagemagic |
| 14:53.14 | abrotman | magik |
| 14:53.34 | sybariten | Ryushin: yeah, found it... xnview. Its supposed to run under linux too |
| 14:53.38 | DammitJim | lenny |
| 14:53.45 | abrotman | DammitJim: what's your CPU? |
| 14:54.00 | Ryushin | sybariten: Cool. I'll go check it out. |
| 14:54.12 | abrotman | DammitJim: you're on i386 or amd64? |
| 14:54.43 | Ryushin | VVytautas: ImageMagick is a general command line image manipulation tool. |
| 14:54.51 | VVytautas | so? |
| 14:55.02 | Ryushin | Kind hard to crop using that. :) |
| 14:55.04 | DammitJim | i386 |
| 14:55.18 | abrotman | DammitJim: aptitude update && aptitude install linux-image-2.6-686 |
| 14:55.20 | VVytautas | maybe |
| 14:55.29 | abrotman | DammitJim: get the new kernel .. and rebooty! |
| 14:55.34 | sybariten | Ryushin: there is some sort of GUI, and they have a viewer ofcourse ("display")... but still... its very rudimentary in that area |
| 14:55.43 | sybariten | (talking about IM) |
| 14:55.58 | chomwitt1 | sorry for repeating, but i i'd like to ask if etch cant be installed from a sata optical drive or if i must try testing. |
| 14:56.23 | stew | chomwitt1: etch can be installed from a sata optical drive. which kernel are you using? |
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| 14:56.39 | chomwitt1 | stew: 2.6.18 |
| 14:56.50 | stew | chomwitt1: try the 2.6.24 kernel: /msg dpkg etchnhalf |
| 14:57.11 | Ryushin | I've download XnView. I'll give that a whirl. |
| 14:57.45 | stew | chomwitt1: err, dpkg is on vacation, /msg aptitude etchnhalf |
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| 14:58.16 | chomwitt1 | stew: ok :-) |
| 14:58.21 | DammitJim | abrotman, you are saying, if I upgrade to that kernel |
| 14:58.24 | DammitJim | the problem will go away? |
| 14:58.42 | DammitJim | I guess this problem came up with I ran the patches for 2.6.25 |
| 14:58.43 | Agiofws | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:58.44 | datacrusher | hi people, im using cups to share a hp laserjet p3005n, everything its visible fine, i can install the printer on the windows station, i can see the jobs on the web interface, but all jobs are VERY slow, some stations even hang when i go file/print |
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| 14:59.21 | datacrusher | my stations are top cpters, cant be from hardwar... and im migrating from a 2k server, debian should just do the same |
| 14:59.29 | chomwitt1 | stew: thanks a lot! |
| 14:59.53 | abrotman | DammitJim: no .. i'm saying the kernel guys are asking me to have to update your kernel :) |
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| 15:00.14 | DammitJim | oh |
| 15:00.17 | DammitJim | just to test it? |
| 15:00.23 | abrotman | DammitJim: thye say your card should be supported |
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| 15:02.57 | DammitJim | did you tell them that I did run that tg3 patch for .25 by mistake? |
| 15:03.07 | DammitJim | I just want to know why that patch exists if it's not because of the non-free issue |
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| 15:03.30 | DammitJim | lol... or how I can undo the patch |
| 15:03.31 | DammitJim | :D |
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| 15:04.01 | abrotman | try the .26 |
| 15:04.09 | abrotman | then modprobe tg3 .. tell us the output |
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| 15:06.04 | DammitJim | will do |
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| 15:12.21 | Fe | çäðàâñòâóéòå òðåáóåòñÿ ïîìîùü |
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| 15:13.19 | Fe | åñòü êòî æèâîé? |
| 15:13.47 | Polizei | Fe, #debian-russian ... |
| 15:14.00 | Polizei | ìåíÿ æèâ :> |
| 15:14.28 | Fe | ) |
| 15:14.28 | Fe | ñïñ |
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| 15:18.41 | flower | i tried to run rsnapshot for the first time, but got some errors: http://pastebin.com/m69ed708b |
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| 15:19.24 | Ryushin | sybariten: XnView works. It's a bit slow. It got done what I needed to get done. I think I'll spend some time getting irfanview to work under wine. There still is nothing that compares to it. |
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| 15:20.14 | folke | Is there a way to remove dhcp.leases / subnet in dhcp3 server? |
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| 15:21.18 | abrotman | DammitJim: how's it going? |
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| 15:22.44 | DammitJim | I just started.. it's getting busy at work :D |
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| 15:23.23 | abrotman | oh ok |
| 15:23.38 | DammitJim | thanks for checking... you guys are good |
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| 15:25.55 | flower | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:26.01 | folke | hepp no one? |
| 15:26.36 | tview | can anyone help me with a mailcap entry which tells xdg-open how to open a directory? |
| 15:26.43 | abrotman | folke: /var/run/dhcpd/ ? |
| 15:27.52 | folke | abrotman: Can I edit the leasefile with just vim? Beq I just want to renew leases for a subnet? |
| 15:28.06 | abrotman | folke: no idea .. never tried |
| 15:28.17 | abrotman | folke: the dhcpd man page doesn't cover this? |
| 15:29.01 | folke | abrotman: I will look asap.. /me ashamed .. didn't look before asking... |
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| 15:34.34 | sybariten | Ryushin: although i've never tried it, i'm a bit sceptical to wine |
| 15:34.49 | folke | abrotman: Humm, looks like the thing to solve this it to edit the config file for the subnet and set max and default -leastime to a short time like 120sec.. |
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