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| 00:02.17 | Typosu | ok, weird, seems it must be konqueror not liking the site... |
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| 00:08.13 | PeterFA | How do I install a binary kernel module manually? |
| 00:09.07 | abrotman | install how? |
| 00:09.34 | PeterFA | abrotman, can't use dpkg, apt-get, make install, but do have the compiled binaries. |
| 00:09.50 | PeterFA | abrotman, came from a deb that is for Feisty. |
| 00:09.51 | abrotman | insmod ./foo.ko ? |
| 00:09.52 | legis | How can I force remove a package? so that it only removes that package and nothing more |
| 00:10.03 | abrotman | course .. it's not for your kernel version .. so it'll probably fail |
| 00:10.08 | abrotman | legis: why would you do that? |
| 00:10.37 | legis | abrotman: want to remove totem-mozilla but removing also removes gnome |
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| 00:11.50 | abrotman | legis: it's a meta-package |
| 00:12.00 | abrotman | why would you want to remove it? |
| 00:13.12 | legis | its being used instead of mplayer plugin, I tried changes the settings in iceweasel but it was all set to mplayer |
| 00:13.25 | legis | but still totem always comes up |
| 00:13.32 | abrotman | you might be able to fix that with update-alternatives |
| 00:14.23 | legis | Ok, I'll check it out |
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| 00:18.48 | phrozen77 | gnite all |
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| 00:21.43 | Typosu | can I say, I like the new installer boot menu :o |
| 00:23.04 | justin | abrotman: if you remove a minor package that a metapackage depends on, it will remove the metapackage |
| 00:23.12 | abrotman | i know |
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| 00:26.43 | nestor | hi, i'm totally new on debian, which is the best repository for apt-get to get safe apps? |
| 00:27.00 | amphi | nestor: any debian mirror |
| 00:27.04 | amphi | !mirrors |
| 00:27.04 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, debian mirrors is http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt | ask me about <apt-spy> or <netselect-apt> | to make a mirror, see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ or http://lists.debian.org/debian-mirrors/ |
| 00:27.41 | nestor | but for example, the mirror i'm using doesnt have the firefox 3 |
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| 00:27.51 | nestor | the lastest is 2. someething |
| 00:28.31 | amphi | nestor: what branch of debian are you on? stable? |
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| 00:28.52 | nestor | yes |
| 00:28.56 | nestor | the stable |
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| 00:29.02 | abrotman | etch has 2.x for firefox |
| 00:31.07 | nestor | hum.. so i have to reinstall debian using the unstable version? or there is a way to make the stable become "unstable"? |
| 00:32.03 | legis | nestor: upgrade to lenny |
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| 00:32.20 | nestor | ok thanks |
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| 00:36.13 | nestor | legis, how is the best way upgrade? |
| 00:36.34 | legis | dpkg: etch->lenny |
| 00:36.34 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, etch->lenny is First, see <apt-listbugs> and <lenny release notes>. Edit sources.list (# editor /etc/apt/sources.list), change all non-local mentions of 'etch' or 'stable' to 'lenny'. Save the file, `aptitude update` and `aptitude dist-upgrade`. Also consider subscribing to debian-devel-announce (ask me about <d-d-a>) to be aware of what developments are happening. See also <lenny release notes>. |
| 00:37.11 | nestor | dpkg thanks |
| 00:37.11 | dpkg | nestor: gern geschehen |
| 00:37.33 | legis | nestor: don't let that message scare you :) lenny is almost ready |
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| 00:49.18 | PeterFA | What the package for the Linux source version x.x.x? |
| 00:49.37 | zinx | linux-source-x.x.x |
| 00:50.01 | zinx | there's also linux-tree-x.x.x |
| 00:50.15 | zinx | but it's not the one you want |
| 00:51.16 | zinx | (note also that you don't want the source to "linux-source-x.x.x", you want to install the package and extract the tarball it puts in /usr/src/) |
| 00:51.59 | PeterFA | zinx, huh? Let's say I want to make my own kernel. What do I want to install? |
| 00:52.22 | zinx | PeterFA: linux-source-x.x.x |
| 00:52.31 | PeterFA | zinx, thanks. |
| 00:53.02 | zinx | PeterFA: you then extract /usr/src/linux-source-x.x.x.tar.bz2 to your favorite spot, enter the directory created, and run 'make-kpkg' with your favorite make-kpkg options. it creates an installable kernel image .deb in ../ |
| 00:53.03 | PeterFA | zinx, I get what you mean... you were talking in terms of apt-get's source debs and such. |
| 00:53.19 | PeterFA | zinx, oh, handy. |
| 00:53.25 | zinx | PeterFA: yeah, you specificly don't want to use apt-get source |
| 00:53.34 | zinx | PeterFA: apt-get install or aptitude install's where it's at for that one |
| 00:53.41 | PeterFA | zinx, I'm used to Gentoo. |
| 00:54.23 | zinx | PeterFA: there may also be a kernel package howto for debian that covers stuff i haven't mentioned, not sure |
| 00:54.38 | abrotman | !kp |
| 00:54.39 | dpkg | To compile a kernel The Debian Way(tm) "apt-get install kernel-package build-essential libncurses5-dev" and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz; You should also ask me about <make-kpkg> and <kp mantra>, or just http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html.en |
| 00:54.50 | zinx | well, there you go |
| 00:55.02 | zinx | abrotman to the rescue :) |
| 00:55.27 | PeterFA | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:55.28 | PeterFA | I have to reboot soon because of kernels. |
| 00:55.28 | PeterFA | Darn kernels. |
| 00:55.28 | PeterFA | The creator and destroyer of uptimse. |
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| 00:56.38 | PeterFA | I didn't flood. |
| 00:56.47 | AngelOne | only for curiosity : anyone has some crash on iceweasel 3.0.1 with debian etch ? |
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| 00:57.53 | abrotman | PeterFA: you were lagging |
| 00:58.34 | PeterFA | abrotman, hrm... I'm doing dist-upgrade at the moment and it's still downloading. |
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| 00:58.42 | eddieBB | how do i close a program that is froze? |
| 00:58.42 | abrotman | ok |
| 00:58.48 | abrotman | kill |
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| 00:59.27 | pipeline | eddieBB: xkill |
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| 01:01.15 | eddieBB | pipeline: thanks |
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| 01:02.50 | amphi | xkill's cursor is nice |
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| 01:06.01 | heroxbd | Hello. I guess iceweasel is painted by Gtk2.0 widgets. How can I change the default font size of Gtk2.0 widgets? I think it is in ~/.gtkrc-2.0. But the documentation of libgtk2.0-doc overwhelmed me. I couldn't find how to set the font size. |
| 01:07.09 | amphi | heroxbd: you can use gtk-chtheme |
| 01:07.31 | amphi | or gtk-switch2 |
| 01:08.47 | heroxbd | amphi: Aha. I will try it. |
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| 01:10.01 | amphi | iceweasel's iface may not update without a restart |
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| 01:16.04 | heroxbd | amphi: It works. Thank a lot. |
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| 01:22.16 | eddieBB | is anyone familiar with firestarter? i want to all an ip like this. "111.111.111.*" but it's not letting me when i try through policy. is there another way to do this? |
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| 01:24.52 | amphi | heroxbd: welcome |
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| 01:26.44 | dudeman | hey |
| 01:26.52 | dudeman | whats going on in the world of #debian |
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| 01:27.07 | lunk | debates are on cbs |
| 01:27.21 | dudeman | oh oh ohoh |
| 01:27.24 | dudeman | presidential debates oh shit |
| 01:27.24 | abrotman | subsume: you came back! |
| 01:27.29 | dudeman | bbl |
| 01:28.44 | AngelOne | eddieBB: you must user ip class in CIDR notation on firestarter |
| 01:29.33 | AngelOne | example : for your subnet 111.111.111.* is -> 111.111.111.0/24 |
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| 01:51.08 | firebird619 | Could someone please help me? I have a Brother MFC-240C all in one. I have had the scanner working, but tonight it isn't working at all. Xsane gives the error Failed to open device 'brother2:bus3;dev1': Error during device I/O. Also, dmesg returns xsane[7075]: segfault at de ip b65b7ddc sp bfa31900 error 4 in libdbus-1.so.3.4.0[b658f000+36000] when starting xsane. Could someone help me resolve this issue? |
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| 01:52.46 | karsten | firebird619: Um, hardware reset? |
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| 01:53.59 | firebird619 | karsten: I have tried restarting the scanner, I also tried restarting the computer and disconnecting and reconnecting the usb cable. |
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| 01:55.02 | Ben_Pang | how can verify IRC ? |
| 01:55.39 | abrotman | Ben_Pang: huh? |
| 01:56.16 | Ben_Pang | what's key? |
| 01:58.51 | Polizei | what key? :) |
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| 02:01.03 | Ben_Pang | i got no completed registration |
| 02:01.12 | Ben_Pang | from nickserv |
| 02:01.44 | abrotman | Ben_Pang: ask #freenode |
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| 02:01.56 | Polizei | i guess it should be sent to your email or something... by the time i registered there were no keys... |
| 02:02.23 | Ben_Pang | ^^ thanking |
| 02:04.30 | karsten | firebird619: OK. |
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| 02:05.02 | karsten | firebird619: Might still be a hardware fault. Do you have another system to try the unit on? |
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| 02:05.26 | firebird619 | karsten: I have now discovered that I can use the scanner as root. I checked and for some reason I wasn't in the scanner group although I had added myself when I first installed the scanner. I will log out and back in and see if that helps. |
| 02:05.32 | karsten | firebird619: I'd suggest _fully_ de-powering the scanner. |
| 02:05.33 | heroxbd | amphi: The font is ok now. But I can't find an option to make my gtk2 widgets thinner in gtk-chtheme |
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| 02:06.00 | karsten | firebird619: Ok, that sounds like it's probable. Check permissions. "newgrp" can reset perms w/o requiring a full logout. |
| 02:06.06 | karsten | firebird619: ... or ssh to localhost. |
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| 02:06.45 | firebird619 | karsten: Ok, Thank you. |
| 02:06.55 | mesut | hi,ive replaced the nic with identical one,but i guess because of the udev device names,its not recognised/working. how to recreate according to new nic? |
| 02:07.39 | abrotman | !tell mesut about z25 |
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| 02:09.35 | firebird619 | karsten: I can now scan, not being in the scanner group was the problem. Thank you for your help. |
| 02:09.35 | subsume | Can someone suggest a clever way to append a bunch of text files? |
| 02:10.03 | mesut | abrotman: since i the eth card is not recognized,i dont have its mac address |
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| 02:10.23 | Smerdyakov | What is the usual command to restart a local BIND DNS cache? |
| 02:10.32 | abrotman | mesut: dmesg | grep eth |
| 02:10.44 | abrotman | subsume: append with what? |
| 02:11.02 | subsume | abrotman: I've just got a bunch of apache directives I want to consolidate into one file |
| 02:11.19 | abrotman | subsume: cat file1 file2 file3 > newfile |
| 02:11.23 | subsume | thanks |
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| 02:12.11 | amphi | heroxbd: that's only a theme selector; you can't use it to tweak widgets |
| 02:12.14 | cakofony | Hi, i'm thinking about trying out your distro. I cant get the installer to run on my computer though, because I am using all sata. Is there an installer cd with a newer kernel and sata support? |
| 02:13.40 | heroxbd | amphi: Ahh. How can I tweak my widgets? Are there documentations? I've RTFW for a while and didn't find one. |
| 02:13.40 | cakofony | anybody? |
| 02:14.31 | abrotman | cakofony: did you try the etchnhalf ? |
| 02:14.37 | heroxbd | amphi: I just don't know what options/derivatives in gtkrc to use. There are too many. |
| 02:14.47 | cakofony | abrotman: never heard of it |
| 02:14.56 | abrotman | cakofony: you're installing etch ? |
| 02:15.20 | cakofony | abrotman: I just downloaded the latest install cd from the debian site >.< not sure what etch is |
| 02:15.27 | abrotman | cakofony: i386 or amd64? |
| 02:15.33 | cakofony | amd64 |
| 02:15.46 | cakofony | abrotman: amd64* |
| 02:15.53 | abrotman | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r4a/amd64/iso-cd/debian-40r4a-etchnhalf-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 02:16.01 | abrotman | it has a newer kernel .. |
| 02:16.07 | abrotman | ultimately it depends on your SATA controller |
| 02:16.14 | cakofony | abrotman: awesome, thanks :-D |
| 02:16.26 | cakofony | abrotman: my sata stuff all works fine in gentoo, so it should work |
| 02:16.27 | dudeman | is there a way to rename an SQL 5.0 DB without dropping and recreating? |
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| 02:16.40 | abrotman | ask #mysql |
| 02:16.43 | dudeman | I know 5.1 has RENAME database |
| 02:16.45 | dudeman | oh ok |
| 02:16.53 | abrotman | and FFS .. stop using crappy such a DBMS |
| 02:16.55 | abrotman | erm ... |
| 02:17.02 | dudeman | :( |
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| 02:17.28 | cakofony | abrotman: I dont know if the netinstall will work, because my network cards driver isnt in the kernel yet |
| 02:17.30 | dudeman | ok well can you recommend a good pref. debian based linux host with ssh access, good company with reliable hosting? |
| 02:17.30 | Polizei | as a matter of fact mysql is still quite *young*, but you cant say its crappy |
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| 02:17.39 | abrotman | cakewhich one is that? |
| 02:17.42 | dudeman | abrotman, something with postgres |
| 02:17.56 | abrotman | dudeman: nope .. i don't require hosting |
| 02:17.59 | dudeman | abrotman, I seem to find that a lot of people prefer that over mysql and reviews are better |
| 02:18.01 | cakofony | abrotman: l12e driver |
| 02:18.05 | grendal_prime | hey abrotman im trying to add a dependency to a package, ntfs-3g (=1:1.516-1~) Ive installed this package i know its in my repo but when i try and install my package with that as a dependency it says that pacakge does not exist? |
| 02:18.12 | abrotman | cakofony: the netinst will get you a base system |
| 02:18.25 | abrotman | grendal_prime: check backports.org |
| 02:18.26 | cakofony | abrotman: alright, thats good enough :-) |
| 02:18.41 | geek_ | i'm thinking of running unreal ircd on debian lenny. its supposed to be started as a user, so.. i'm wondering if someone can point me at an example on how to do so at boot |
| 02:18.43 | abrotman | dudeman: can't you get a VPS that gives you control over packages? |
| 02:18.56 | abrotman | geek_: su -c <user> <command> |
| 02:18.58 | grendal_prime | ya it is on backports...but i have a mirror of the backports |
| 02:19.13 | grendal_prime | it has to have something to do with the version number i think |
| 02:19.15 | geek_ | abrotman: as part of the init script? |
| 02:19.35 | geek_ | ok. i think i am enlightened sufficiently to try it on a VM first ;p |
| 02:19.43 | Polizei | geek_, crontab? |
| 02:20.12 | abrotman | geek_: you can try a user crontab with @reboot |
| 02:20.16 | geek_ | Polizei: i thought cron was for running something at specific intervels? |
| 02:20.17 | geek_ | ahh |
| 02:20.19 | abrotman | Ben_Pang: do NOT msg me |
| 02:20.21 | dudeman | abrotman, ohh yeh |
| 02:20.30 | dudeman | abrotman, I didn'nt even think about that |
| 02:20.46 | dudeman | ok i go vps shopping then |
| 02:21.51 | Ben_Pang | i set server_host by postfix, but postfix no using it |
| 02:22.21 | amphi | heroxbd: the simplest would be to find a gtk theme you can like |
| 02:23.24 | abrotman | Ben_Pang: what is your distro ? |
| 02:24.01 | amphi | heroxbd: you can find more than you probably care to at gnome-look.org, amongst othe places |
| 02:24.28 | heroxbd | amphi: Thank you. I'll try. |
| 02:26.03 | Ben_Pang | abrotman,: debain4, i installed postfix and postfix-ldap |
| 02:26.20 | abrotman | did you look at www.postfix.org ? |
| 02:27.59 | Ben_Pang | yes |
| 02:28.11 | Ben_Pang | but not anything |
| 02:28.27 | heroxbd | Actually, I just want my menu bar and status bar thinner. http://alioth.debian.org/~heroxbd-guest/uglyIceweasel.jpg |
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| 02:29.21 | karsten | firebird619: Good news. |
| 02:29.45 | abrotman | you just saved a bunch of money on your car insurance? |
| 02:30.05 | lunk | abrotman: sharp object stabbed into your eye by a caveman |
| 02:30.27 | heroxbd | The only GUI application I use is iceweasel. All the others are done in text mode. So maybe it is overkill to learn all through gtk widgets to make the menu bar smaller. :( |
| 02:31.30 | abrotman | heroxbd: especially given there are other gecko based browsers |
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| 02:32.02 | abrotman | heroxbd: you're on lenny/sid ? |
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| 02:32.35 | heroxbd | abrotman: sid. Do you suggest browsers other than iceweasel? |
| 02:32.36 | firebird619 | karsten: Yes, it sure is. I am glad it was just a simple problem with a simple solution. |
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| 02:33.15 | abrotman | heroxbd: i'm just saying there are other gecko based browsers .. galeon/epiphany-gecko/kazehakase-gecko |
| 02:33.21 | Ben_Pang | abrotman: has any thing? |
| 02:33.28 | abrotman | www.postfix.org |
| 02:33.33 | abrotman | !cn |
| 02:33.33 | dpkg | from memory, cn is China, or for help in chinese please /j #debian-zh, or for help in chinese please /j #debian-zh Please use UTF-8, for IRC help see http://tinyurl.com/8yrj9 | Qt/KDE è¿æ¸¡æå¼å§ï¼è¯¦æ请é读 |
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| 02:36.21 | heroxbd | abrotman: Ahh. Yes. And there is conkeror... |
| 02:36.40 | abrotman | konqueror |
| 02:36.44 | abrotman | but that's webkit based |
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| 02:37.35 | karsten | firebird619: And I appreciate your noting the resolution, it's helpful for us. |
| 02:37.44 | karsten | firebird619: There's a hell of a lot of stuff that boils down to file prems. |
| 02:37.52 | heroxbd | abrotman: No. conkeror written by the author of stumpwm, is a XULrunner based browser, which makes extensive use of keyboard. |
| 02:38.00 | karsten | firebird619: .... or group membership, flipside of coin. |
| 02:38.08 | abrotman | heroxbd: oh ok |
| 02:38.57 | grendal_prime | god this is frustrating.. |
| 02:39.02 | grendal_prime | lri-20-upgrade: PreDepends: ntfs-3g (= 1:1.516-1~bpo.1) but it is not going to be installed |
| 02:39.38 | grendal_prime | says that package does not exist but i know that it does. |
| 02:40.20 | wols_ | grendal_prime: it's bpo |
| 02:40.44 | grendal_prime | ya wols...and it has access to the location of the bpo's |
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| 02:41.01 | wols_ | grendal_prime: since when has bpo stuff been installed automatically? |
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| 02:41.45 | grendal_prime | ive never had any trouble installing them before.. |
| 02:42.17 | wols_ | gives up |
| 02:42.26 | grendal_prime | can i just force it through..like...apt-get lri-20-upgrade -f |
| 02:42.31 | wols_ | should have known better |
| 02:42.34 | wols_ | grendal_prime: no! |
| 02:42.39 | grendal_prime | damn |
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| 02:43.08 | grendal_prime | all right already, i guess i wont even include it in the package then...jesssuss |
| 02:43.22 | grendal_prime | if they need it they will have to install it themselfs |
| 02:43.22 | rhombus | I've got MySQL 4.1 running on a non-standard port, 3307, on a Debian server. |
| 02:43.28 | grendal_prime | not like its all that hard. |
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| 02:43.37 | rhombus | I can connect from localhost, but not from an external host. Any ideas? |
| 02:43.56 | wols_ | rhombus: it listens only on localhost by default. see netstat |
| 02:44.19 | rhombus | wols_: check this out: http://pastebin.ca/1212002 |
| 02:44.43 | rhombus | It appears to be listening on a real IP also... |
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| 02:54.04 | Tramp | rhombus: hosts_access is not a firewall, so "3307:ALL" is pointless. However, this is not the reaseon why you can't connect |
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| 02:54.32 | rhombus | Tramp: It was added by a colleague in an effort to try to smoke out this problem |
| 02:54.56 | Tramp | rhombus: when you try "netcat host 3307" from the remote client - what happens? |
| 02:55.03 | rhombus | But we've done a stack trace on one of the MySQL threads, and when we connect externally all the threads die and are immediately restarted with new PIDs |
| 02:56.18 | rhombus | Tramp: absolutely nothing -- nix, nada |
| 02:56.28 | rhombus | it runs, it ends, no output |
| 02:56.54 | Tramp | rhombus: fine, so connect seems to work. It's thus not a network issue and you can connect |
| 02:57.22 | rhombus | Tramp: yeah -- but the external connection is making it crash |
| 02:57.43 | Tramp | rhombus: but then I'd try #mysql |
| 02:57.56 | rhombus | Tramp: ha, that's where I came from |
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| 02:58.01 | rhombus | not much help there |
| 02:58.16 | rhombus | I've had more useful help in this channel than I've had in three hours in #mysql |
| 02:58.44 | Tramp | oh. With almost 500 people in there I'd thought it would be helpful ... |
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| 03:02.03 | abrotman | rhombus: debian by default doesn't listen on eth0 |
| 03:02.25 | rhombus | abrotman: how do you mean? |
| 03:02.33 | rhombus | did you look at my pastebin post? |
| 03:02.38 | abrotman | should i? |
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| 03:03.08 | mross | when should ~/.profile be used instead of ~/.bash_profile? when should ~/.bash_profile be used instead of ~/.profile? |
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| 03:03.33 | abrotman | rhombus: if you telnet to IP 3307 .. what happens ? |
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| 03:03.48 | rhombus | It connects, then immediately disconnects. |
| 03:04.29 | rhombus | If I do a stack trace, I see that all the threads crash and are restarted |
| 03:04.31 | abrotman | rhombus: did you look in the my.cnf ? |
| 03:04.43 | rhombus | abrotman: many times -- what am I looking for? |
| 03:04.57 | abrotman | # Instead of skip-networking the default is now to listen only on |
| 03:04.57 | abrotman | # localhost which is more compatible and is not less secure. |
| 03:04.57 | abrotman | bind-address = 127.0.0.1 |
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| 03:05.51 | rhombus | oh |
| 03:05.56 | rhombus | well, this is a source install of MySQL anyway |
| 03:06.00 | rhombus | and no, there is no bind-address line |
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| 03:06.06 | abrotman | that would have been a nice thing to tell us |
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| 03:06.33 | abrotman | mmm postgres :) |
| 03:07.31 | cafuego | source of which version? |
| 03:07.44 | cafuego | and .... why? |
| 03:08.17 | abrotman | and now it's even less of a #debian question :) |
| 03:08.27 | Bladesman | /bye |
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| 03:09.02 | Tramp | rhombus: apparently there is a "max_connect_errors" setting in mysql which blocks hosts after a number of connectio failures. I don't understand its meaning fully and it should show up in the logs (which you certainly have checked carefully) |
| 03:09.25 | rhombus | Tramp: yeah... the logs don't show anything |
| 03:09.32 | Gun_Smoke | I'm trying to remember the name of a small app that would benchmark the system with the option to print the results to html file.. Ideas? |
| 03:09.32 | rhombus | they show the beginning of the connect attempt, then nothing |
| 03:09.38 | rhombus | which is consistent with the threads crashing |
| 03:09.40 | rhombus | :( |
| 03:09.41 | Sling | right, enough debian-work for today |
| 03:10.08 | rhombus | It is 4.1 after all, which isn't even in active support anymore. I think i'm going to tell the developers to rewrite their queries so that they can use 5 |
| 03:10.15 | cafuego | max_connect_errors is an internal counter that increments when a connection fails - for whatever reason. it's a crude way of preventing brute force login attacks. |
| 03:10.52 | cafuego | it also increments (afaik) when an app does not properly close the connection to the server. |
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| 03:11.17 | cafuego | The default is a low number, so you're best off setting it pretty high - especially on a box that doesn't listen on a public IP. |
| 03:11.41 | cafuego | rhombus: You have question that run OK on 4.1 and not on 5.0? |
| 03:11.46 | Tramp | cafuego: yeah - my idea was that maybe some testing of his may have triggered it and now it's this value that gives him trouble |
| 03:11.47 | cafuego | s/question/queries/ |
| 03:12.01 | rhombus | cafuego: yes |
| 03:12.10 | cafuego | "set global max_connect_errors = 500" |
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| 03:12.26 | cafuego | rhombus: far out. fire your devs :-) |
| 03:12.38 | rhombus | cafuego: they are idiots, and they are gone |
| 03:12.43 | rhombus | cafuego: they have been replaced |
| 03:13.30 | cafuego | Were you running an untuned 4.1 server from a apckage before? |
| 03:13.31 | rhombus | Tramp: but the threads shouldn't crash when the connect attempts are exceeded :) |
| 03:13.45 | rhombus | cafuego: Yeah, I think so -- this one is a source install |
| 03:14.00 | rhombus | cafuego: and it is sharing the server with a MySQL 5 install |
| 03:14.11 | cafuego | rhombus: The default config on from deb is exceedingly shit for performance. |
| 03:14.22 | rhombus | cafuego: LOL |
| 03:14.32 | rhombus | well, good to know |
| 03:14.34 | cafuego | seriously |
| 03:14.40 | rhombus | me, I would be glad if it worked at all |
| 03:15.01 | abrotman | you're not using the debian config or debian package |
| 03:15.01 | rhombus | anyway, we're dumping this old machine, but the queries don't work with 5, so |
| 03:15.06 | cafuego | rhombus: I'd use a 4.1 package and stick 5.0 in a chroot to be honest, don't dick around with source installs. |
| 03:15.07 | rhombus | no. |
| 03:15.24 | rhombus | I can't get a 4.1 package, at least not in the stable tree |
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| 03:16.30 | cafuego | rhombus: This where the reverse backport comes in handy :-) |
| 03:16.46 | rhombus | ugh |
| 03:16.54 | rhombus | that makes a source install sound appealing |
| 03:17.11 | cafuego | rhombus: Basically all you do is build a custom .deb from the mysql source, it's easy. |
| 03:17.33 | rhombus | I'm a Debian moron. |
| 03:17.45 | cafuego | I'd say forward port the sarge one, but that's is beyond crusty these days |
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| 03:19.54 | cafuego | rhombus: let me find the build dir repo... |
| 03:21.02 | cafuego | rhombus: Which version did you fetch from mysql? |
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| 03:22.00 | Tramp | rhombus: As a workaround I could suggest to tunnel the port on the local host, so the connection appears to be local. Of course this would have miscellanous issues ... |
| 03:22.17 | cafuego | 4.1.22 i guess |
| 03:22.30 | rhombus | cafuego: 4.1 |
| 03:22.34 | rhombus | yeah |
| 03:22.35 | rhombus | 4.1.22 |
| 03:22.47 | cafuego | rhombus: The scripts in http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-mysql/tags/4.1.15-1/debian/?rev=0&sc=0 |
| 03:22.48 | rhombus | Tramp: what issues? I considered that fix |
| 03:23.03 | cafuego | rhombus: ... minus the patches, should be able to build you a server. |
| 03:23.25 | cafuego | rhombus: Alternatively, and probably a better bet, use the prebuilt binary from mysql.com |
| 03:23.39 | rhombus | Perhaps that'll fix it |
| 03:23.40 | cafuego | rhombus: that'll run from /usr/local/mysql-4.1.xxx-foo |
| 03:23.45 | rhombus | maybe the crashing is a build time problem |
| 03:23.53 | rhombus | ok |
| 03:23.55 | Tramp | rhombus: performance (would need to be tested) and security (you'd have to check/adapt the credentials on the databases) |
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| 03:25.33 | cafuego | rhombus: I got training from a former mysql employee last week and he suggested not trying to use a homemade source build, unless you're google perhaps ;-) |
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| 03:26.32 | rhombus | cafuego |
| 03:26.39 | rhombus | that is looking like wise advice |
| 03:26.44 | rhombus | it was probably the way I compiled it |
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| 03:27.24 | cafuego | depdnding on your compiler or libc version, specific optimisatiion flags may just break it very badly. |
| 03:27.33 | cafuego | rhombus: Btw, you using myisam or innodb? |
| 03:27.41 | rhombus | innodb |
| 03:27.52 | cafuego | And not tuned right? |
| 03:28.16 | cafuego | So your iblogfile_* files are 5Mb each? |
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| 03:30.02 | rhombus | cafuego |
| 03:30.03 | cafuego | let me know if you want some pointers to make it run probably quite a lot better. |
| 03:30.06 | rhombus | probably |
| 03:30.10 | rhombus | okay, I'll keep you in mind |
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| 03:30.14 | rhombus | thanks so much for your advice! |
| 03:30.21 | cafuego | no worries, good luck :-) |
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| 03:35.50 | rhombus | thanks for all your help: cafuego, Tramp |
| 03:38.44 | mns_____ | I'm trying to run the following command: urxvt -fg red -fn 8x13 -n SuperUser -T SuperUser. If I run it as myself, I get the effect of red foreground on blakc background. As I would expect it to be. If I run it as root (either directly from a root terminal or via gksu), it seems to ignore the "-fg red" bit. Anyone got any ideas ? I can't think of anything. |
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| 03:39.45 | mns_____ | My ~/.Xresources file specifies that default background is black and default foreground is green. |
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| 03:39.50 | Typosu | I'm getting a large delay when using dhcp over a bridged interface, I don't mean that maxwait delay, but dhclient itself takes a good 5-10 seconds to talk to the server, while it takes one second on a bare interface... |
| 03:39.52 | Titi_ | Hey friends, sorry for a little OT, is there some nice warez channel, or good site? Sorry and thank you for some tipes |
| 03:39.56 | Typosu | anyone know how to fix that? |
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| 03:43.15 | cafuego | Titi_: How about you and your warez go away, far away. |
| 03:43.34 | cafuego | Titi_: On the other hand, Debian is free, no need to break the law to use it. |
| 03:43.39 | cafuego | tolecnal: http://www.debian.org/ |
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| 03:44.10 | geek_ | hmm |
| 03:45.05 | Titi_ | cafuego I know, I am sorry, I am just asking for some luck someone can know some infos |
| 03:45.15 | Titi_ | but sorry for that |
| 03:45.21 | cafuego | Titi_: Not welcome here and illegal everywhere. |
| 03:45.29 | Titi_ | you can not asnwer |
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| 03:45.42 | Titi_ | you dont have to answer |
| 03:45.51 | cafuego | Titi_: You shouldn't ask here to begin with. |
| 03:46.04 | Titi_ | ok, but do you know some site? forum, or something? |
| 03:46.09 | cafuego | Fuck. Off. |
| 03:46.29 | Titi_ | peace, i am going off |
| 03:46.40 | Titi_ | Debian Thumbs Up |
| 03:46.46 | Titi_ | I am using it |
| 03:47.01 | cafuego | you seem to be missing the point of it though |
| 03:47.35 | geek_ | I'm thinking of setting up a file server with 2 HDDs (one now, one later). most of my files are going to be on /var/www/foo - i'm wondering, would it be a good idea to use LVM now, and have /home and /root on seperate partitions on the system, or to just go for the newbie partitioning option, and worry about how to manage the second hard drive later? |
| 03:48.29 | cafuego | geek_: If you're not worried about raid, just set it up as LVM now and add the new disk to the VG when you get it. |
| 03:48.47 | geek_ | cafuego: no, not a raid. |
| 03:49.30 | cafuego | geek_: if you stick /boot on a small partition by itself, you could make / be a logical volume as well. |
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| 03:49.49 | geek_ | cafuego: hmm, what's the advantage of splitting them? |
| 03:50.17 | cafuego | splitting / and /home? |
| 03:50.21 | geek_ | yeah |
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| 03:50.33 | cafuego | means filling /home won't cause the system to do poo :-) |
| 03:50.38 | Typosu | anyone know how to reduce the time it takes to get a dhcp address on a bridge? (maxwait is already 0) |
| 03:50.38 | geek_ | lol |
| 03:50.47 | cafuego | mind you, for a server that shouldn't matter that much |
| 03:50.49 | Typosu | and you can blow away the system drive and keep /home |
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| 03:50.58 | geek_ | its a file server. only reason i even need much space on /home is for my irc server ;p |
| 03:51.08 | Typosu | I actually like to split /var off of / and /home as well :x |
| 03:51.34 | geek_ | Typosu: thats VERY tempting. the way things will go, almost EVERYTHING will go into /var ;p |
| 03:51.42 | cafuego | geek_: yeah 20GiB of irc logs .. ;-) |
| 03:51.46 | buu | Real men split usr/local and usr/local/share |
| 03:51.50 | Typosu | lol |
| 03:52.09 | Typosu | I usually split into / /usr /var /home |
| 03:52.17 | geek_ | cafuego: erf. i didn't consider that. |
| 03:52.20 | Typosu | and tmp is a tmpfs ;D |
| 03:52.20 | cafuego | geek_: I stick services in /src these days. /srv/www /srv/nfs .. like that. so /var doesn't becomes this pile of cruft. |
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| 03:53.14 | geek_ | cafuego: well, i'm not running much on it. AMP stack, unreal IRCD, unbound recusive DNS server. |
| 03:53.27 | geek_ | i'm fighting the temptation to make it a terminal server again |
| 03:53.29 | cafuego | geek_: If I feel lazy, I create / and /data. /home and /srv I make symlinks to /data/home and /data/srv |
| 03:53.55 | cafuego | and /data can be raid, lvm or both. |
| 03:53.59 | Typosu | I tend to put dirs that fill up in /var as a bind mount if im really lazy |
| 03:54.19 | Typosu | sometimes /root or something fills up, so it goes to /var/root ;D |
| 03:54.29 | geek_ | >_> |
| 03:54.40 | geek_ | is getting confused now ;p |
| 03:55.19 | cafuego | geek_: Easiest is to go with a real /boot and lvm /. |
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| 03:55.33 | cafuego | geek_: then adding a disk just means you make the lvm (and /) bigger. |
| 03:55.39 | Typosu | yup |
| 03:55.49 | geek_ | cafuego: hmm, ok |
| 03:55.51 | Typosu | and if you want, you can always split off stuff when you add the new disk |
| 03:56.05 | geek_ | that makes sense |
| 03:56.09 | cafuego | Yup, create a new lv and mount that elsewhere |
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| 03:56.21 | cafuego | either way: lvm ftw ;-) |
| 03:56.30 | Typosu | yeah, lvm is nice |
| 03:56.42 | Typosu | though I decided to not use it with my new array. |
| 03:56.56 | Typosu | raid5 4x640G for 1.7TB :D |
| 03:56.56 | geek_ | notes this also means i can start on the box once i got the two windows boxen fixed. yay |
| 03:57.26 | cafuego | without lvm I'd have 50 Xen filesystem files sitting on disk for shit++ performance and management. |
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| 03:59.12 | cafuego | spooks Typosu and says one of his raid5 disks died yesterday |
| 03:59.17 | Typosu | heh, I have a few vmware images sitting on my old raid5 nfs raid array... |
| 03:59.18 | geek_ | lol |
| 03:59.24 | Typosu | luckily I tested my disks. |
| 03:59.36 | Typosu | so they wont be failing any time soon. |
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| 03:59.40 | Typosu | according to statistics |
| 03:59.49 | cafuego | Typosu: yeah. Statistics. |
| 03:59.58 | Typosu | and my own experience ;) |
| 04:00.04 | cafuego | They sound nice until you get write errors after 13 months ;-) |
| 04:00.14 | Typosu | if they dont fail in the first few days/weeks of heavy work, they stick arround. |
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| 04:00.34 | cafuego | needs to check with WD what to do about warranty |
| 04:00.48 | Typosu | my old raid5 (which I only built a year or two ago) had two faulty drives on creation. |
| 04:01.01 | Typosu | the first drive failed in 2 days, the replacement then failed in the same time |
| 04:01.13 | Typosu | after that though, its been fine, and I abuse the crap out of it |
| 04:01.17 | cafuego | Sequential serial numbers ftw eh |
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| 04:04.27 | lymeca | How can I modify file creation times in the output of ls -l? |
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| 04:07.49 | Tramp | lymeca: (1) it's not the "file creation" time (2) I don't understand, what you're trying to do |
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| 04:18.02 | deadcat | how do i use tcpdump to dump human readable http traffics? |
| 04:18.15 | deadcat | or is there any tools that can do taht? |
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| 04:19.27 | Tramp | deadcat: check "tcpflow", there sure are a dozen more |
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| 04:19.55 | Tramp | !giyf |
| 04:19.55 | dpkg | hmm... giyf is Google Is Your Friend, or http://google.com/linux. Gary Izzard, Yankee Farmer |
| 04:20.00 | jdrake | Is there any idea when gnome 2.24 will have packages available for either experimental or sid? |
| 04:20.01 | deadcat | Tramp: thanks |
| 04:20.18 | lem0n | deadcat: i dont mean to be a smartass, but have you considered apache logs? |
| 04:20.31 | lem0n | /var/log/apache2/access_log etc |
| 04:21.27 | deadcat | lem0n: no. i need to get the passwd from the linksys router )= |
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| 04:39.25 | subsume | Is it legal to have a line like root: root@myhost.com in my /etc/aliases? |
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| 04:51.49 | screamingbytes | nope |
| 04:52.06 | screamingbytes | it just means that the alias it to another domain. |
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| 05:00.20 | Typosu | I find it somewhat strange that testing has 2.6.26, and sid is stuck on 2.6.25... |
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| 05:04.30 | Wyzard | Typosu: sid has 2.6.26... I'm running it right now |
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| 05:05.25 | Typosu | odd, apt-get and aptitude only show .25 for me :( |
| 05:05.28 | Typosu | I update regularly |
| 05:06.04 | screamingbytes | etch installs the same kernel on me everytime i update :) |
| 05:07.23 | luna1 | mmm http://packages.debian.org/sid/linux-image-2.6.26-1-686 |
| 05:07.29 | luna1 | same for other archs |
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| 05:08.12 | Typosu | thats strange... |
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| 05:08.32 | Typosu | was it added today or something? |
| 05:08.50 | luna1 | Typosu: maybe you apt mirror is not up to date for some reason, i think |
| 05:08.53 | Wyzard | no, I've been running it for a few weeks |
| 05:08.53 | pulsewave | I'm setting up 2 dns servers , ns1 and ns2; would ns2 be a slave or a master of it's own? |
| 05:09.09 | Typosu | luna1: its possible. I run my own mirror. |
| 05:09.26 | Wyzard | Pulelehua: probably a slave unless you want to have to manually keep both of them up-to-date and in sync with each other |
| 05:09.28 | Typosu | but it updated already today... |
| 05:09.32 | Wyzard | oops, pulsewave ^^^ |
| 05:09.38 | Wyzard | but I'm no DNS expert |
| 05:09.55 | screamingbytes | pulsewave: depends on what you want |
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| 05:09.56 | craigevil | sid has had 2.6.26 for over a month |
| 05:10.09 | Typosu | what would cause apt-cache search, and aptitude search to not see it? |
| 05:10.11 | screamingbytes | pulsewave: you can't have 2 SOA's for the domain though |
| 05:10.19 | Typosu | my mirror is up to date afaik |
| 05:10.39 | screamingbytes | Typosu: ftp.us.debian.org :) |
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| 05:10.48 | Typosu | pretty sure my mirror syncs from there ;) |
| 05:11.01 | luna1 | mmm dunno, maybe the package can be blocked ? |
| 05:11.12 | screamingbytes | Typosu: put that one in your /etc/apt/sources file and update |
| 05:11.35 | screamingbytes | typosu: sudo apt-get update |
| 05:11.44 | Typosu | yeah, I know how it works ;) |
| 05:11.47 | screamingbytes | i have 3 or 4 mirrors and that one |
| 05:11.57 | screamingbytes | kk kewl |
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| 05:12.54 | Typosu | yeah, my mirror clones from the us mirror... |
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| 05:14.17 | screamingbytes | you ever used mit or kernel.org? |
| 05:14.49 | Typosu | I used to use some local canadian mirrors, but they tend to be flakey sometimes :( |
| 05:15.37 | screamingbytes | ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ |
| 05:16.05 | screamingbytes | it has unstable, testing,stable , etc... give it a go and see what happens |
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| 05:16.31 | Typosu | it seems though that my apt-mirror setup was a little faulty.. its currently downloading 13G of stuff now to catch up ::) |
| 05:16.37 | Typosu | odd that I'd get some updates though |
| 05:16.52 | screamingbytes | lol whoa! |
| 05:16.56 | screamingbytes | 13G |
| 05:17.00 | luna1 | 8-) |
| 05:17.12 | Typosu | mirroring sid and etch, in i386 and amd64 ;D |
| 05:17.18 | Typosu | lots and lots of stuff |
| 05:17.26 | Typosu | the entire mirror uses 50G or so of space |
| 05:17.26 | screamingbytes | jeeze |
| 05:17.54 | screamingbytes | clear |
| 05:17.58 | screamingbytes | oops |
| 05:18.09 | Typosu | I like how it uses multiple threads too.. |
| 05:18.59 | Typosu | and my isp has a fancy "speedboost" option they "gave" me for "free", which lets any single connection go nearly as fast as possible over my 10mb/s max for up to 30 seconds |
| 05:19.09 | Typosu | some transfers happen at 3MB/s ;D |
| 05:19.34 | lem0n | lol |
| 05:19.41 | lem0n | has 20/1.5 constant |
| 05:19.50 | lem0n | "unmetered" |
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| 05:19.51 | Typosu | heh, my normal is 10/1 |
| 05:20.01 | lem0n | no known meter, but im sure if i downloaded a couple tb they may not be too happy ;P |
| 05:20.03 | Typosu | but speedboost gets it up to like 30/1 |
| 05:20.09 | lem0n | hehe |
| 05:20.18 | Typosu | heh, my isp calls me when I go over 200-300GB a month |
| 05:20.27 | lem0n | lol |
| 05:20.34 | lem0n | i normally only use like 120gb a month |
| 05:20.37 | dudeman | hahahaha what a great nickname |
| 05:20.38 | lem0n | up and down together |
| 05:20.39 | dudeman | lem0n, |
| 05:20.44 | dudeman | lol |
| 05:20.48 | lem0n | lol thank you xD |
| 05:20.52 | Typosu | for a few months there, I didnt go over 30G... |
| 05:21.23 | Typosu | going to take 3 hours to update my mirror ::) |
| 05:22.27 | luna1 | isp call if transfers go over a month/limit ? 8-) |
| 05:22.55 | Typosu | mine doesnt have a strict limit.. they just call when you're the top abuser in a given area... |
| 05:23.15 | lem0n | July 2008 (Incoming: 69375 MB / Outgoing: 42758 MB) |
| 05:23.26 | lem0n | August 2008 (Incoming: 86452 MB / Outgoing: 33451 MB) |
| 05:23.35 | lem0n | September 2008 (Incoming: 31333 MB / Outgoing: 14077 MB) |
| 05:23.38 | lem0n | didnt use much this month |
| 05:23.42 | luna1 | here in italy i have 10MBit/sec. transfer rate without traffic limit :S |
| 05:23.51 | Typosu | my usage has skyrocketed this month :x |
| 05:24.00 | lem0n | lol |
| 05:24.00 | Typosu | I bet I'm over 100G at least. |
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| 05:24.39 | subsume | screamingbytes: you there? |
| 05:24.39 | lem0n | some ISP in NE USA (frontiernet i think) changed their policy to some new limit |
| 05:24.42 | lem0n | ilke 5gb/month i think |
| 05:24.54 | lem0n | because they did a 'test' and they figured up "average" users would never use more than 5gb a month |
| 05:24.57 | lem0n | lol, would not fly with me. |
| 05:25.24 | Typosu | ok, it hasnt. its only at 60G... |
| 05:25.35 | Typosu | I could swear I downloaded a LOT more than that. |
| 05:25.40 | lem0n | lol |
| 05:25.47 | Typosu | my raid array went from almost empty to 400GB... |
| 05:26.11 | Wyzard | lem0n: If they make the expected "average" be the limit, it's not going to be the average |
| 05:26.16 | Typosu | I think thier bandwidth monitoring is a little faulty |
| 05:26.24 | lem0n | afterwards, yeah |
| 05:26.30 | lem0n | well |
| 05:26.34 | lem0n | average was poor choice of words i guess |
| 05:26.43 | luna1 | incredible.. i guess in USA there are not traffic limit O_O those thing are tipically Italian 8-) |
| 05:26.44 | lem0n | they figured normal people wouldnt use more than 5GB, simply |
| 05:26.46 | Wyzard | "typical" perhaps? |
| 05:26.48 | craigevil | the average windows user that doesnt do more than check email and IM maybe, no way 5gb would work for most linux users, i go over that on most days |
| 05:26.52 | lem0n | yeah, Wyzard |
| 05:26.55 | geek_ | lol |
| 05:27.02 | lem0n | exactly, craigevil |
| 05:27.03 | lem0n | :) |
| 05:27.07 | lem0n | thats what i figure |
| 05:27.15 | geek_ | Typosu: you can use vnstat to keep track of that... |
| 05:27.22 | Wyzard | luna1: Some ISPs have bandwidth limits and some don't... it depends on how many customers they have and how much Internet bandwidth the ISP itself has |
| 05:27.25 | geek_ | ;p |
| 05:27.26 | lem0n | if youre like most people and check your email, which takes you 20 minutes because youre trying to figure out how to use hotmail, you wont be going over 5 gigs |
| 05:27.33 | Typosu | yeah, I used to have my own setup, but my firewall hardware died. |
| 05:27.33 | dudeman | hm |
| 05:27.36 | craigevil | between updates, listening to streaming media, downloading other distros etc |
| 05:27.42 | Typosu | so I setup a temporary box as a new firewall... |
| 05:27.47 | lem0n | but its not like we are all 1 in a thousand, theres always several people in an area that will use quite a bit more than 5gb traffic |
| 05:27.56 | subsume | Is it legal to have a line like root: root@myhost.com in my /etc/aliases? |
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| 05:28.43 | luna1 | Wyzard: :\ |
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| 05:29.15 | craigevil | Bytes received today 6.9 GB, most of that is from downloading fedora |
| 05:30.09 | luna1 | Incredible O_O seems to be in Italy we have better ISP than USA O_O |
| 05:30.12 | lem0n | September 26, 2008 (Incoming: 2047 MB / Outgoing: 1755 MB) |
| 05:30.15 | lem0n | so thats ~3GB today |
| 05:30.22 | lem0n | or "yesterday" |
| 05:30.28 | lem0n | almost 4 |
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| 05:31.16 | Typosu | my new server's rx is slightly impressive.. 511GB ;D |
| 05:31.34 | lem0n | lol i have a server on a fdx 10mbit pipe |
| 05:31.36 | Typosu | coppied my old array, to the new one ;D |
| 05:31.39 | lem0n | hardly use ANY bandwidth |
| 05:31.40 | lem0n | D: |
| 05:31.55 | Typosu | took about 4 hours to copy. :D |
| 05:32.17 | Guerin | !guerin's internet |
| 05:32.17 | dpkg | Yes, Guerin has 100 megabit full-dup internet access at home. Yes, it costs him only $30/month. No, no useful ports are blocked and there's no AUP against running servers. No, you can't have a shell on his box. nope, Guerin no longer has fast internet because he's moved back to civilisation. Now he's back on dialup like the rest of the peasants. |
| 05:32.24 | Guerin | oh, that's out od date |
| 05:32.45 | Guerin | !guerin's internet =~ s/dialup/10Mbit cable/ |
| 05:32.45 | dpkg | Guerin: OK |
| 05:32.53 | lem0n | where did you live? |
| 05:33.02 | Wyzard | luna1: There have been a lot of complaints in the US about telecom companies dragging their feet on upgrading their networks |
| 05:33.02 | dudeman | Guerin, yo |
| 05:33.10 | Guerin | lem0n: Dae Han Min Guk |
| 05:33.16 | Guerin | dudeman: sup |
| 05:33.20 | dudeman | chillin |
| 05:33.25 | lem0n | if thats a real place, ive never heard of hit :P |
| 05:33.27 | dudeman | Wyzard, yo |
| 05:33.27 | Typosu | north americas internets suck.. :( |
| 05:33.29 | lem0n | it* |
| 05:33.33 | dudeman | lem0n, he used to live in china |
| 05:33.36 | lem0n | i dunno, Typosu, its not too bad |
| 05:33.38 | lem0n | ah, dudeman |
| 05:33.41 | Wyzard | luna1: if you want to see really fast Internet access, look at places like Korea |
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| 05:33.44 | lem0n | Typosu: but it IS major suckage in some places |
| 05:33.45 | Guerin | dudeman: no, I trevelkled in china |
| 05:33.54 | Typosu | lem0n: when japan has 100mb/s to everyone, my 10mb is lame. |
| 05:33.58 | dudeman | Guerin, where did you live iwhile you were travelling in chinca? |
| 05:34.03 | dudeman | I hope you lived in china... |
| 05:34.07 | lem0n | have we forgotten about the great firewall of china though? |
| 05:34.09 | Typosu | lem0n: when most people have < 5mb/s its really lame |
| 05:34.10 | dudeman | It would be crazy if you lived in space... |
| 05:34.17 | lem0n | lol Typosu |
| 05:34.21 | dudeman | !lart Guerin |
| 05:34.21 | dpkg | tries to shut Guerin up |
| 05:34.24 | Guerin | dudeman: Where I laid my head was home. But before that I lived in Dae Han Min Guk |
| 05:34.25 | lem0n | i pay $50 for my 20/1.5 |
| 05:34.39 | Typosu | my 10/1 is about 64$ cad |
| 05:34.46 | dudeman | Guerin, I was once in sports.... I was plaing Ping Pong, in Ding Dang. |
| 05:34.46 | lem0n | wow |
| 05:34.50 | lem0n | thats a bit |
| 05:34.54 | dudeman | hides |
| 05:34.55 | luna1 | Wyzard: the fastest i ever seen is 100MBit/Sec. FullDuplex here |
| 05:34.56 | lem0n | i think the conversion is roughly the same |
| 05:34.56 | Guerin | dudeman: hard out |
| 05:34.57 | Typosu | though its a business account. I get permission to run services |
| 05:35.00 | dudeman | :) |
| 05:35.11 | lem0n | i would love verizon bz fiber |
| 05:35.12 | Typosu | and I get an extra 100G or so transfer with the extra upgrades |
| 05:35.17 | lem0n | fios, sure, is fast, but restrictions SUCK |
| 05:35.18 | Typosu | regular 10/1 is 54$ |
| 05:35.19 | lem0n | talking res |
| 05:35.28 | dudeman | man... move to japan |
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| 05:35.30 | lem0n | but if you get biz fiber with vz, its quite awesome |
| 05:35.37 | atul | join #fedora |
| 05:35.39 | Guerin | there are some downsides to living in east asia |
| 05:35.41 | dudeman | atul, no thanks |
| 05:35.49 | dudeman | Guerin, fetus soup? |
| 05:35.50 | Wyzard | luna1: 100mbit is rarely, if ever, available for consumer broadband service in the US... I have 15 down, 1.5 up |
| 05:35.55 | Guerin | but if you're in the US currently, my only advice is - get out to a place with a real economy |
| 05:36.08 | Typosu | or at least one that isnt imploding |
| 05:36.10 | dudeman | Guerin, the best I can get in my 'hood is roadrunner 10mbit down |
| 05:36.17 | Guerin | dudeman: i didn't have any of that. |
| 05:36.18 | dudeman | Guerin, they got fios 10 blocks that way ... |
| 05:36.26 | dudeman | but I can't get it |
| 05:36.27 | lem0n | RR is experimenting with 100/10 in orlando and texas :) |
| 05:36.31 | Typosu | my isp actually has a 25/1 plan, but the 1mb upload makes it useless. |
| 05:36.50 | Wyzard | yeah, I wish more upload bandwidth was available |
| 05:36.54 | Typosu | you cant pull 25 without it saturating the upload causing it to never reach the full 25... |
| 05:37.01 | dudeman | what is the fastest network connection discovered/invented by humans |
| 05:37.01 | dudeman | ? |
| 05:37.03 | Wyzard | 15 down is fine; it's the 1.5 up that's the bottleneck |
| 05:37.07 | lem0n | dudeman: OC-768 |
| 05:37.13 | dudeman | lem0n, how much speed |
| 05:37.14 | lem0n | no |
| 05:37.17 | dudeman | no? |
| 05:37.17 | lem0n | im wrong about that |
| 05:37.20 | Guerin | dudeman: it's not limited by the pipe, it's limited by the hardware at either end |
| 05:37.21 | Typosu | there are some Tb/s links... |
| 05:37.23 | lem0n | thats not the fastest |
| 05:37.28 | dudeman | Guerin, oh |
| 05:37.33 | Typosu | multi plexed fiber.. hmmm |
| 05:37.34 | dudeman | Guerin, you mean the mux's? |
| 05:37.35 | lem0n | dudeman, scientists got data to travel at 100Gbps |
| 05:37.37 | cafuego | Guerin: There's is only so much kimchi you can trade before se asia pops again too |
| 05:37.40 | dudeman | mux/demux |
| 05:37.46 | dudeman | why can't we invent better ones |
| 05:37.49 | luna1 | Wyzard: here 100mbit is only for Business, for "common mortal people" (ihih) the fastest is 10mbit without any traffic limit or something else |
| 05:38.03 | dudeman | like 1 gajillion decabytes a nanosec |
| 05:38.03 | Typosu | lem0n: they have 100G ethernet, let alone the fastest actuall transfer... |
| 05:38.05 | dudeman | or something |
| 05:38.07 | lem0n | they sent data at about 100gbps across 20 meters or so |
| 05:38.07 | lem0n | nah |
| 05:38.08 | Guerin | cafuego: nom nom kimchi |
| 05:38.12 | lem0n | they have 10G e |
| 05:38.14 | lem0n | not 100 yet. |
| 05:38.18 | Typosu | 100G is in the works ;) |
| 05:38.22 | lem0n | well yeah |
| 05:38.27 | lem0n | but 10ge is barely mainstream |
| 05:38.32 | cafuego | basement cat is in ur cabbage, picklin |
| 05:38.34 | lem0n | it is in datacenters, and its thousands for the switches |
| 05:38.38 | lem0n | a single port switch module is a couple grand |
| 05:38.42 | dudeman | will it ever be like back to the future II before we get old? |
| 05:38.43 | Wyzard | luna1: I don't know what's available to businesses, but 10 for consumers is fairly typical here |
| 05:38.52 | lem0n | 100gige hasnt been put into use yet |
| 05:38.56 | Wyzard | luna1: I don't have any traffic limits on my 15/1.5 service |
| 05:39.00 | Typosu | I just want a gige pcie card that isnt 10x more expensive than a pci card... |
| 05:39.01 | dudeman | I want my house to be computerized and run on and be controlled through my main debian server |
| 05:39.05 | lem0n | now, AT&T deployed an OC-768 around the US in a circle basically |
| 05:39.14 | lem0n | that runs at uh |
| 05:39.18 | lem0n | lets see |
| 05:39.19 | dudeman | and voice activated |
| 05:39.20 | Wyzard | but my previous provider (Comcast) was 6bmit/350kbit and they throttle bittorrent |
| 05:39.35 | craigevil | x10 controllers work in debian |
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| 05:39.43 | craigevil | i have comcast they suck |
| 05:39.44 | lem0n | OC-768 runs at 39,813.12 Mbit/s |
| 05:39.54 | Guerin | weak |
| 05:39.56 | lem0n | so about 40gbps |
| 05:39.57 | dudeman | thats it? |
| 05:39.58 | luna1 | Wyzard: ah yeah throttling is common here too, not my ISP, but is common |
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| 05:40.18 | dudeman | my isp doesn't throttle |
| 05:40.24 | dudeman | I can even host port 80 and 25 |
| 05:40.25 | lem0n | mine doesnt either thank god |
| 05:40.28 | craigevil | i used to have roadrunner torrents downloaded a lot faster than with comcast |
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| 05:40.37 | dudeman | lem0n, thats where dudeman.gotdns.com runs |
| 05:40.40 | Wyzard | I wish mine didn't block 80 |
| 05:40.56 | dudeman | Wyzard, mine used to, so i had to get a url forward thingy on dyndns.com |
| 05:40.58 | Typosu | some larger backbones are capable of running at multi Tb/s rates.. |
| 05:40.59 | dudeman | now I don't have to |
| 05:41.03 | Wyzard | They used to have it open, but I moved and had to switch back to Comcast for a few months, and when I could finally get Verizon again, 80 was blocked |
| 05:41.05 | lem0n | nah Typosu lol |
| 05:41.07 | lem0n | not that fast |
| 05:41.08 | manu_hack | hi, after I run sudo /usr/sbin/update-alternatives --config infobrowser, I choose pinfo, then info foobar will use pinfo instead? that seems to be not the case, so what is changed? |
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| 05:41.24 | Typosu | take fiber and run 48+ wavelengths down a single strand, and mutliplex several strands. |
| 05:41.27 | Wyzard | manu_hack: infobrowser foobar, presumably |
| 05:41.32 | Typosu | instand speed |
| 05:41.33 | lem0n | the thing abuot fiber |
| 05:41.34 | Typosu | *instant |
| 05:41.37 | lem0n | its not the fiber thats the problem |
| 05:41.40 | manu_hack | ok, Wyzard thx |
| 05:41.40 | lem0n | its the switches on either end |
| 05:41.43 | dudeman | when life gives you lem0ns, you make lem0nade. Umm... what the fuck do you do when you lem0ns but no sugar...? |
| 05:41.49 | Typosu | yeah, you just need beefy switches. |
| 05:41.49 | dudeman | thats a stupid saying. |
| 05:41.56 | lem0n | lol dudeman |
| 05:41.56 | Typosu | like the new optical only hardware ;D |
| 05:42.02 | luna1 | lol |
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| 05:42.08 | dudeman | I guess you just have to suck it up and wait for these assholes to upgrade thier networks |
| 05:42.09 | midnightRmbler | beefy sandwitches yup |
| 05:42.09 | manu_hack | then I need to type infobrower foobar, weird |
| 05:42.16 | dudeman | what else can you do? |
| 05:42.21 | dudeman | you don't really have a choice |
| 05:42.31 | lem0n | im talking about switches and stuff still being improved in development |
| 05:42.36 | lem0n | which is what theyre doing right now |
| 05:42.37 | Typosu | boycot, cause they will just avoid having to upgrade by throttling :P |
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| 05:42.40 | lem0n | imporving the hardware on either end |
| 05:42.45 | lem0n | because thats the problem, not the fiber |
| 05:42.48 | dudeman | Typosu, boycotte all of them? |
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| 05:42.54 | Typosu | dudeman: the worst ones ;) |
| 05:42.58 | dudeman | we only have verizon which sucks, and road runner cable |
| 05:42.58 | ProN00b | why is pidgin in debian testing so old ? |
| 05:43.06 | dudeman | ProN00b, becase... |
| 05:43.15 | dudeman | ProN00b, check backports or isntall it from sid maybe? |
| 05:43.20 | antiderivative | stability, not features |
| 05:44.27 | Typosu | I want an OC 3072 \o/ |
| 05:44.40 | Typosu | 160Gb/s should be enough for anyone |
| 05:44.53 | luna1 | 160Gb/s ? |
| 05:44.58 | luna1 | looooooooool |
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| 05:45.30 | craigevil | pidgin Installed: 2.4.3-3 |
| 05:45.35 | lem0n | sadly there would be no use for it |
| 05:45.43 | antiderivative | what makes debian better than gentoo? |
| 05:45.44 | luna1 | yep i think too |
| 05:45.50 | lem0n | im pretty sure hds cant even write 1Gbps |
| 05:45.52 | Wyzard | !tell antiderivative about why debian |
| 05:45.53 | cafuego | !why debian |
| 05:45.53 | dpkg | http://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian or http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/talks/why_debian/ |
| 05:45.58 | Typosu | lem0n: I could be reasonably sure my connection wasnt a bottle neck ;) |
| 05:46.04 | lem0n | lol |
| 05:46.06 | craigevil | because debian rules |
| 05:46.10 | lem0n | true, Typosu |
| 05:46.22 | Wyzard | lem0n: individual drives come nowhere near it, but big RAID arrays can |
| 05:46.36 | lem0n | think about how many striped 15k's youd need for that |
| 05:46.41 | Typosu | get a big fiberchannel array going... |
| 05:46.43 | lem0n | think about how many $ that would take ;) |
| 05:46.47 | Typosu | a NAS cluster even |
| 05:46.56 | lem0n | would take a massive one |
| 05:46.58 | cafuego | lem0n: Not that many, just a few GiB of cache |
| 05:47.15 | luna1 | anyway debian is not better than gentoo, and gentoo is not better than debian also :-) |
| 05:47.16 | Typosu | I dunno, I get >100MB/s on my array.. and its TINY. |
| 05:47.22 | Wyzard | lem0n: I read something about how some of the 3D effects for the Matrix movies involved filming expressions on actors' faces with a camera that put out several gigabytes per second |
| 05:47.47 | lem0n | dunno |
| 05:47.48 | Wyzard | lem0n: to get high-resolution texture maps to put onto 3D models |
| 05:48.07 | lem0n | thats pretty crazy lol |
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| 05:48.18 | Guerin | and that was the 90s |
| 05:48.27 | Typosu | gigabits? |
| 05:48.33 | Wyzard | bytes, I believe |
| 05:48.43 | Wyzard | but it was years ago that I read it, so I could be remembering wrong |
| 05:48.44 | Typosu | speeds are generally in bits... |
| 05:48.51 | dcsimon | I'm not sure if there were camers (besides film) that would shoot in resoloutions that high back in the 90s |
| 05:49.10 | dcsimon | s/camers/cameras/ |
| 05:49.15 | Guerin | well, there weren't at consumer-grade |
| 05:49.19 | antiderivative | netinst is the best choice, no? |
| 05:49.26 | lem0n | yes, antiderivative |
| 05:49.38 | Typosu | especially if you have a local mirror :D |
| 05:49.40 | Guerin | but the point of working with ILM and those sorts of people is that you don't have to use consumer0grade egar |
| 05:49.47 | luna1 | Typosu: lol |
| 05:49.48 | Typosu | 25MB/s downloads are nice when installing a distro |
| 05:49.55 | Wyzard | dcsimon: Even if not, I think there are techniques for reconstructing high-res images from a sequence of lower-res images where things are moving |
| 05:50.03 | Wyzard | dcsimon: so it might've just been a very high framerate |
| 05:50.31 | antiderivative | Tiny CD? |
| 05:50.34 | dcsimon | Wyzard: film could be scanned a virtually any resoloution however |
| 05:50.41 | luna1 | in generally i prefer a liveCD and debootstrap to install debian, but is only my preferences :) |
| 05:50.44 | Guerin | dcsimon: just not in real-time |
| 05:50.46 | antiderivative | what is the floppy disk instalker |
| 05:50.53 | antiderivative | installer* |
| 05:50.57 | Guerin | antiderivative: the thing you use if you're stuck in the 90s |
| 05:50.59 | Wyzard | no, the article definitely said the camera was connected to a big storage array |
| 05:51.03 | dcsimon | Guerin: true |
| 05:51.03 | Typosu | luna1: my last attempt at a debootstrap install left me with a mostly broken distro :P |
| 05:51.13 | dcsimon | Guerin: the glory of post-production |
| 05:51.25 | Guerin | dcsimon: that's where the real work happens :) |
| 05:51.28 | luna1 | Typosu: strange, i use it for years |
| 05:51.43 | Typosu | Im not saying debootstrap is broken.. |
| 05:51.49 | Typosu | it just didnt work out well for me :( |
| 05:51.50 | luna1 | i think especially for sid is the best way |
| 05:51.53 | dcsimon | Guerin: some would call it magic |
| 05:52.00 | Typosu | so I just booted a netinst cd and it worked fine |
| 05:52.04 | Guerin | heh |
| 05:52.14 | antiderivative | Why can't I use a Tiny CD? |
| 05:52.15 | Guerin | you know how the Matrix: Reloaded is a bit of a shitty film? |
| 05:52.24 | antiderivative | instead of Small CD? |
| 05:52.32 | dcsimon | Guerin: yea |
| 05:52.49 | Guerin | I was walking down the street behind a dude wearing a Matrix: Reloaded jacket, thinking `what a tool, who'd love it that much?' |
| 05:52.56 | lem0n | lol |
| 05:52.58 | dudeman | what |
| 05:53.04 | lem0n | original matrixf tw |
| 05:53.04 | dudeman | I love the matrix |
| 05:53.05 | Guerin | then I got a bit closer, and it said `The Matrix: Reloaded Visual Effects Crew' |
| 05:53.10 | cafuego | Guerin: Miti Rini? |
| 05:53.11 | dudeman | Guerin, haha |
| 05:53.12 | Wyzard | hehe |
| 05:53.24 | Guerin | and my whole opinion of him changed |
| 05:53.30 | dudeman | wow |
| 05:53.38 | dudeman | talk about judgments. |
| 05:53.51 | Guerin | yeah, I'm a judgmental bastard |
| 05:53.55 | dcsimon | Guerin: totally agree, maybe just Matrix jacket, stress the <i>maybe</i>, but deff not a reloaded |
| 05:54.02 | cafuego | Well, it makes him partially responsible for that dog's breakfast, doesn't it? |
| 05:54.08 | Guerin | anyway, I'm going to a mate's place for beer and chicken now |
| 05:54.20 | dudeman | Guerin, without offense... what would you do without your pathetic narrow minded view of life that reflects your lack of cognitive abilities... |
| 05:54.24 | Guerin | cafuego: say what you like, the visual effects were good |
| 05:54.26 | dudeman | Guerin, I still love you :) |
| 05:54.38 | Guerin | !aww |
| 05:54.38 | dpkg | *snuggles* |
| 05:54.40 | cafuego | Guerin: I fell asleep 15 mins in, so I don't actually know ;-) |
| 05:55.01 | dudeman | cafuego, you are boring! |
| 05:55.10 | dudeman | you must be like 40+ or something, 50 at least |
| 05:55.13 | cafuego | dudeman: and then some! |
| 05:55.17 | dudeman | heh |
| 05:55.30 | cafuego | dudeman: Did you mean "boring" or "old"? |
| 05:55.34 | dudeman | both! |
| 05:55.39 | cafuego | They are two different words and they mean different things. |
| 05:55.47 | dudeman | they dont' go hand in hand, but in your case yes! :) |
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| 05:56.30 | antiderivative | !ubuntu |
| 05:56.30 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
| 05:56.35 | cafuego | doesn't see howe sleeping through a pile of crap makes im boring. oh well. Kids these days... |
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| 05:56.45 | dudeman | I knew it :) |
| 05:56.54 | dudeman | pokes cafuego |
| 05:56.59 | dbbddbdb | Hi, how do I make debuild pass parameters to ./configure? |
| 05:57.02 | dudeman | hey gramps, hows it hangin |
| 05:57.09 | cafuego | dbbddbdb: Edit debian/rules |
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| 05:57.15 | dudeman | !debian/rules |
| 05:57.15 | dpkg | well, debian/rules is the makefile that's used by dpkg-buildpackage when building a .deb from source. Edit debian/rules before you run "fakeroot debian/rules binary" (or "dpkg-buildpackage -uc -us -rfakeroot") to create a custom .deb package. For more info, ask me about <source>. Also remember to make a new entry in debian/changelog with "~yourname" (for a backport) or "+yourname" (for a recompile) added to the version number or ask me about <hold>. |
| 05:57.37 | cafuego | dudeman: lower and lower every passing year |
| 05:57.45 | dbbddbdb | cafuego: dudeman: thanks, I must have been blind when I looked at it -_- |
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| 05:57.55 | dudeman | no problem |
| 05:58.06 | dudeman | you also may wish to consider the nmg |
| 05:58.07 | dudeman | !nmg |
| 05:58.07 | dpkg | nmg is, like, Debian New Maintainers' Guide, Debian Policy Manual and Debian Developer's Reference are the documents you need to read, in that order, to make packages for the Debian project. http://www.debian.org/devel/ or ask me about <package basics>, <mentors> and <mg> |
| 05:58.12 | dudeman | !pacakge basics |
| 05:58.26 | dudeman | uhm |
| 05:58.29 | dudeman | I forgot hto sp ell hacpagke |
| 05:58.31 | dudeman | fuck. |
| 05:58.34 | dudeman | package |
| 05:58.41 | dudeman | !package basics |
| 05:58.41 | dpkg | [package basics] The Basics of the Package Management System, Package format, and how to make packages. http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-pkg_basics.en.html or see Debian New Maintainers' Guide at http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ |
| 05:59.08 | cafuego | You also missed him leaving like 5 mins ago. |
| 05:59.13 | dudeman | oh |
| 05:59.25 | dudeman | 01:57 Ignorance List: |
| 05:59.25 | dudeman | 01:57 1 *: CRAP JOINS PARTS QUITS KICKS MODES TOPICS NICKS CLIENTNOTICES CLIENTCRAP CLIENTERRORS |
| 05:59.35 | dudeman | that is a side effect of uhm.. ahem |
| 05:59.40 | dudeman | things. |
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| 05:59.52 | antiderivative | !noob |
| 05:59.53 | dpkg | Dear visitor, please don't bother telling us you're a "newb" or a "n00b". We can tell. Please don't bother telling us you're not a "newb", "noob" or "n00b" either. We can tell that too, you probably are, if you have to say you are not. |
| 06:00.13 | cafuego | antiderivative: Prolly best to query dpkg via /msg rather than on channel. |
| 06:00.23 | dudeman | !dpkg.web.search |
| 06:00.23 | dpkg | [dpkg.web.search] A Frontend to the dpkg irc bot and the factoids database at @ http://dpkg.vireo.org |
| 06:00.28 | dudeman | !dpkgbot |
| 06:00.28 | dpkg | Please visit http://wiki.debian.org/IRC/DpkgBot to learn how to effectively search the factoids database for FAQ, and not flood in the channel with !tell <who> about <what>. Also see <msg the bot>. We ask that you learn to search for yourself first, unless it is a specific problem. Many questions are asked repeatedly, and the factoid database can be of great help to you. Ask me about <search dpkg>. |
| 06:00.37 | cafuego | !botspam |
| 06:00.39 | dudeman | help yourself |
| 06:01.02 | cafuego | !botabuse |
| 06:01.02 | dpkg | lay off me you buggerererers!!11! |
| 06:01.09 | dudeman | cafuego, I try not to /msg those particular factoids. Instead I publically do them so that people who are not aware of this can become aware |
| 06:01.16 | cafuego | Silly me, forget my own head next |
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| 06:01.45 | dudeman | forexample the frontend to dpkg and the dpkgwiki page |
| 06:02.06 | cafuego | I really don't need an explanation. |
| 06:02.29 | dudeman | no you don't _need_ it. |
| 06:02.39 | dudeman | you also didn't _need_ to say that either. |
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| 06:03.56 | cafuego | agrees to disagree |
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| 06:04.46 | dudeman | shrugs it off... and puts the movie on... Grumpy Old Men. |
| 06:05.20 | cafuego | don't forget the muppet show! |
| 06:05.33 | dudeman | I love the muppets |
| 06:05.40 | dudeman | man Kermit kicks ass |
| 06:05.43 | dudeman | =D |
| 06:08.46 | Gun_Smoke | anyone still frequent a bbs? |
| 06:08.53 | dudeman | yes |
| 06:09.19 | Gun_Smoke | I'm looking over a pretty good sized list for one... |
| 06:09.24 | dudeman | The Dragon BBS in New Orleans.. from back in the day like around 94/95 |
| 06:09.34 | dudeman | I used to also like Excalibur BBS |
| 06:10.04 | dudeman | dialup... Dragon is still up cuz I know the nerd who runs it ;) |
| 06:10.10 | dudeman | we went to high school to gether |
| 06:10.31 | dudeman | one of the most brilliant phone systems guy I know |
| 06:11.00 | Gun_Smoke | I'm looking for telnet/ssh access |
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| 06:11.15 | dudeman | yeh, na, these are standard dialup BBS |
| 06:11.41 | Gun_Smoke | don't have a phone line.. Actually I've never owned a phone line. |
| 06:11.48 | dudeman | back in louisiana in the day we used to be known as the Order of the Dragon hehehe some hacker group in our early teens |
| 06:12.04 | dudeman | we ran BBSs and other things and etc. etc. |
| 06:12.26 | dudeman | anyway sleepy time may sleepy time |
| 06:12.28 | dudeman | bye bye bye bye |
| 06:12.42 | dudeman | my* |
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| 06:20.56 | windowshasyou | I know this, i'm ditching ubuntu. I think its sad that the lenny live cd loads faster then the stuff installed on the hard drive. |
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| 06:21.22 | gonzaloaf_laptop | !atheros |
| 06:21.22 | dpkg | Atheros Communications is a developer of semiconductors. Ask me about <madwifi> for stable wireless chipset drivers, <ath5k> or <ath9k> for wireless drivers under development. Ask me about <atl1> or <atl2> for Ethernet adapter drivers. |
| 06:21.27 | gonzaloaf_laptop | 1madwifi |
| 06:22.45 | wols_ | gonzaloaf_laptop: what kernel version? |
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| 06:28.28 | dpkg | madwifi is a driver for wireless devices with an Atheros chipset. More information at http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/Distro/Debian. To install madwifi drivers built against Debian stock kernels, ask me about <madwifi-install>. No USB devices are supported. NOT for AR5007UG (aka AR2624/AR5524) chipsets, ask me about <zd1211rw> instead. AR5008 now supported in lenny. http://madwifi.org/wiki/Support, #madwifi @ irc.freenode.net. |
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| 06:31.08 | gonzaloaf_laptop | wols_, 2.6.26 |
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| 06:31.26 | wols_ | gonzaloaf_laptop: then you must use ath5k |
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| 06:34.05 | liable | not must |
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| 06:36.10 | gonzaloaf_laptop | I did the m-a way |
| 06:36.13 | gonzaloaf_laptop | is not the same? |
| 06:36.20 | liable | thats fine |
| 06:36.54 | gonzaloaf_laptop | wols_, what is the ath5k thing? |
| 06:37.57 | liable | its the new in kernel free driver |
| 06:38.04 | liable | its in 2.6.26 |
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| 06:44.49 | gonzaloaf_laptop | included in the kernel? |
| 06:45.40 | jonny66 | Is if possible to redirect all sound to spdif? Now i only get mplayer to redirect it with mplayer -ao alsa:device=spdif |
| 06:54.13 | gonzaloaf_laptop | I have a curious problem, some time ago I cannot send message trough smtp of gmail, I use icedove.... it has been worked great ever, but now when I'm sending a mail it fails... it happens when I do just from my house, any clue? |
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| 07:04.58 | screamingbytes | subsume: you still awake? |
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| 07:06.04 | tarzeau | are there and font fans in here who are also debian developers who'd sponsor an improved font upgrade |
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| 07:09.55 | AlexW | is it recommeneded to run mod_chroot on a internet web server |
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| 07:11.42 | cafuego | hmmm, telnet bbs |
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| 07:11.57 | cafuego | fixed a libc api problem in his just the other day |
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| 07:17.18 | subsume | screamingbytes: yeah |
| 07:17.39 | subsume | subsume: so my usage of etc/aliases is not sane? |
| 07:17.43 | subsume | screamingbytes: ^ =) |
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| 07:26.51 | geek_ | hmm |
| 07:27.07 | geek_ | does lenny business card install have the GUI or is it CLI only? |
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| 07:27.27 | wols_ | cli afaik |
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| 07:30.27 | geek_ | hmm |
| 07:30.34 | geek_ | it has gui.. |
| 07:30.37 | geek_ | *whoot!* |
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| 07:32.04 | geek_ | hmm |
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| 07:32.44 | geek_ | i have a slightly tangential question. if i want to set a box on a network with DHCP on a static ip. do i go for a range less than or greater than the starting address? |
| 07:33.13 | wols_ | ayou tell the dhcp not to assign that static IP, no matter where |
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| 07:36.35 | phorce1 | geek_: in other words, either above or below the range the dcho server is set to assign dynamically, doesn't really matter which |
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| 07:40.37 | geek_ | phorce1: ahh, makes sense |
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| 07:40.49 | wasynyt | i seem to have some kond of issue with installing debian testing, otherwise the system installs just fine but then i cannot get grub installed. is the 20 gb too big for / ? |
| 07:41.03 | geek_ | shouldn't be |
| 07:41.06 | wasynyt | and i dont want or need any encrypted partitions |
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| 07:41.27 | shital | Hello all |
| 07:41.39 | phorce1 | wasynyt: my / is a 500G drive minus whatever was assigned for swap |
| 07:41.46 | wasynyt | ok |
| 07:42.06 | wols_ | wasynyt: more info needed |
| 07:42.26 | wasynyt | what should i try to tell you |
| 07:42.45 | shital | I have a static IP address, i want it to be able to access over internet, how i can set up for this to happen?? plz any one guide me? |
| 07:42.58 | wols_ | shital: nothing to do |
| 07:43.14 | shital | means? |
| 07:43.20 | wasynyt | i have three hds, two sata and one ide, the ide is master of the first ide chanel, but i want to install the os in to the last sata hd |
| 07:43.24 | wols_ | shital: what I said |
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| 07:43.53 | wols_ | wasynyt: which is the first BIOS drive? |
| 07:44.00 | wasynyt | the ide one |
| 07:44.09 | shital | after getting net, directly it can be accessible over internet? |
| 07:44.11 | wols_ | then install grub to it with grub-install |
| 07:44.18 | wols_ | shital: yes |
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| 07:44.22 | wasynyt | let me see |
| 07:44.30 | shital | but its not happening now |
| 07:44.42 | wols_ | shital: what server do you want to access? |
| 07:44.45 | mkhlnsh | Howdy. Are there any ISOs for sid? I keep finding _just_ for lenny even where it is suposed to be sid. Am I missing something? |
| 07:44.51 | wols_ | mkhlnsh: no |
| 07:45.47 | shital | nothing, i have got net connection with static IP address to my PC, so i want my pc to be able to access over the internet |
| 07:46.00 | wols_ | shital: but what server do you want to access? |
| 07:46.18 | shital | apache |
| 07:46.27 | wols_ | ìs apache installed? |
| 07:46.31 | shital | yess |
| 07:46.43 | shital | and its running also |
| 07:47.08 | mkhlnsh | wols_, so i have to install lenny first and after that upgrade it to sid? |
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| 07:47.26 | wols_ | mkhlnsh: yes |
| 07:47.49 | mkhlnsh | wols_, thanks. |
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| 07:49.31 | wols_ | shital: switch the port. some ISP blocm 80 |
| 07:50.25 | shital | where i can do this? |
| 07:50.35 | alch3my | httpd.conf |
| 07:50.38 | alch3my | /etc/apache/ |
| 07:50.42 | alch3my | or something ;p |
| 07:50.54 | shital | ok |
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| 07:58.08 | wasynyt | ok.. seems like i cant really get the recovery tool to do anything usefull |
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| 07:58.35 | wasynyt | fresh install.. once more. any recomendations for safe defaults ? |
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| 08:00.08 | IntangibleLiquid | is it possible to install Lenny with only the first CD? |
| 08:00.11 | her2r23 | hello, where might i be able to access wireless statistics (like iwlist ath0 foo) in a file? |
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| 08:00.34 | geek_ | IntangibleLiquid: yes |
| 08:00.54 | IntangibleLiquid | geek_: and is it possible to dual boot it with Ubuntu? |
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| 08:01.16 | geek_ | IntangibleLiquid: yes, but... why? |
| 08:01.49 | IntangibleLiquid | geek_: i want to go more into linux than just ubuntu, ubuntu is for everyday usage, debian is for learning |
| 08:01.53 | aliases123 | hi there what is a light weight host intrusion dection system. |
| 08:02.20 | her2r23 | !tripwire |
| 08:02.20 | dpkg | tripwire is probably a File System integrity checker for "Intrusion Detection" using cyrptographic checksums such as MD5 and Blowfish. Layman's terms: It tells you if you've been haX03d and 0w3n3d.. Use AIDE instead, or for open source tripwire see http://www.tripwire.org/ and for CVS instructions see http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=3130 |
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| 08:02.39 | aliases123 | is it light weight ? |
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| 08:02.43 | geek_ | IntangibleLiquid: how much you learn depends on how much you want to ;p |
| 08:02.58 | wasynyt | can i install 1 gb /boot on the first parts of the firsts disc? and then use xfs as the / filesystem |
| 08:03.23 | her2r23 | aliases123: cant say, ive never used it |
| 08:03.27 | aliases123 | what about resource use vs integrit ? |
| 08:03.46 | IntangibleLiquid | geek_: :) just want to feel a different taste. Also, is it possible to share the home partition with ubuntu? and will re-sizing partition be ok? |
| 08:03.56 | geek_ | the first. donno |
| 08:03.59 | geek_ | the second, yeah |
| 08:04.49 | IntangibleLiquid | geek_: ok thanks. it's just i like the Debian logo :-) |
| 08:05.00 | wasynyt | the /boot and / will be on different discs |
| 08:05.10 | aliases123 | IntangibleLiquid: all art is propaganda. |
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| 08:05.56 | geek_ | bleh |
| 08:06.03 | geek_ | the singapore mirror seems to have issues |
| 08:06.08 | IntangibleLiquid | just wonder there are so many cds and dvds |
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| 08:06.14 | simonrvn | that's a really cynical view |
| 08:06.14 | geek_ | will use a US one first then let apt-spy take care of things |
| 08:06.25 | geek_ | IntangibleLiquid: you can download *everything* on the repos on disk |
| 08:06.28 | craigevil | sharing /home probably isnt a good idea |
| 08:06.32 | geek_ | you don't need to |
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| 08:07.14 | aliases123 | you can share /home, but the profile settings might conflict (for small things). |
| 08:07.16 | IntangibleLiquid | craigevil: why? I just want to put everything in one place, and i have only around 50gb of free space |
| 08:07.25 | IntangibleLiquid | i c |
| 08:07.31 | alch3my | apt-spy? |
| 08:08.02 | IntangibleLiquid | geek_: i'm downloading the first CD, much smaller than the first DVD |
| 08:08.07 | craigevil | the first cd is all you need to install, conflict with app version differences and the way debian and ubuntu do things might cause issues with a shareded /home |
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| 08:08.39 | geek_ | IntangibleLiquid: i have the first DVD . it won't boot on that box, and i'm having problems with the credit card type image >< |
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| 08:09.07 | IntangibleLiquid | geek_: good to know. thanks god |
| 08:09.14 | Ben_Pang | cyrus-imap,i got ldap_uri:ldap.test.com to /etc/imapd.conf,but not availability |
| 08:10.01 | geek_ | IntangibleLiquid: TBH i usually use netinstall or the minimal image to install ;p |
| 08:10.06 | craigevil | geek_: have you tried the netinstall iso |
| 08:10.20 | geek_ | craigevil: i'm waiting for it to finish downloading |
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| 08:10.33 | IntangibleLiquid | geek_: coz netinstall is for 4.0 only, i want to try the testing one |
| 08:10.47 | geek_ | IntangibleLiquid: there's a lenny netinstall |
| 08:11.11 | IntangibleLiquid | geek_: oh dear, must have missed something :( |
| 08:11.14 | Ben_Pang | how can i? |
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| 08:11.29 | Ben_Pang | i has installed cyrus-imap,i got ldap_uri:ldap.test.com to /etc/imapd.conf,but not availability |
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| 08:12.50 | craigevil | IntangibleLiquid: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/lenny_di_beta2/i386/iso-cd/debian-LennyBeta2-i386-netinst.iso |
| 08:13.26 | Ben_Pang | help me |
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| 08:13.57 | IntangibleLiquid | craigevil: thanks. |
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| 08:14.28 | IntangibleLiquid | ok guys, I have around 50gb left, what's the best partition scenario now? Currently a root and home for ubuntu are being used. |
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| 08:16.15 | Ben_Pang | how can i do? |
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| 08:16.20 | ddrj | anyone use nzbget here? |
| 08:17.03 | IntangibleLiquid | craigevil: oh no, that link will take forever to download :(, is there a torrent one |
| 08:17.48 | craigevil | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/lenny_di_beta2/i386/bt-cd/debian-LennyBeta2-i386-netinst.iso.torrent |
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| 08:18.50 | IntangibleLiquid | craigevil: thanks, got it :) |
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| 08:29.11 | IntangibleLiquid | geek_: I'd like to resize the current home partition before installation, how do i do that in Ubuntu? |
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| 08:31.35 | liable | ask in #ubuntu? |
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| 08:34.50 | craigevil | doesnt expert mode let you resize? |
| 08:35.22 | liable | d-i doesnt support resizing afaik |
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| 08:36.23 | craigevil | IntangibleLiquid: get a livecd that has gparted like knoppix or sidux |
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| 08:43.07 | jon_ | is your /home a LV? |
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| 08:46.43 | buntfalke | What are PC98 partition tables? I wasn't quite aware of their existence so far. sure there is msdos, bsd, the efi guids and so forth but pc98? |
| 08:48.23 | IntangibleLiquid | craigevil: so, it would be safer if I put the entire Debian folder into a separate partition, and, example, point my Downloads to another folder on Ubuntu's /home, right? |
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| 08:49.29 | jon_ | he' |
| 08:50.03 | jon_ | isn't saying anything like that... he's saying this channel is generally silent about other distributions |
| 08:51.27 | aliases123 | IntangibleLiquid: you could just make a chroot of debian on ubuntu. |
| 08:53.09 | IntangibleLiquid | aliases123: sorry man, still very noob, how do i do that? |
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| 08:53.44 | aliases123 | don't worry. you probably want a full installation anyways. |
| 08:53.45 | endra | hey |
| 08:54.19 | endra | Can someone give me a valid sources.list for a dedicated server? I think I screwed mine up |
| 08:54.35 | wols_ | !tell endra aboout mirrors |
| 08:54.47 | endra | !tell endra about mirrors |
| 08:54.48 | wols_ | !tell endra about sources.list |
| 08:54.50 | endra | thanks. |
| 08:55.11 | alch3my | !tell alch3my about something |
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| 08:55.25 | alch3my | !tell #Debian about something |
| 08:55.26 | alch3my | ;p |
| 08:55.28 | alch3my | aw |
| 08:55.39 | alch3my | <dpkg> +telling yourself: i heard something is everything,nothing, part of something else, everything, nothing, part of something else |
| 08:56.09 | aliases123 | wols_: i am looking at the debian postfix wiki page. it states to block hosts for which the ip does not match. is it not reasonable to make a note on this page that this might not be the best thing to do ? |
| 08:56.10 | endra | wols_: okay, the problem is I don't know what a good sources.list looks like.. not just changing the host in an existing one |
| 08:57.00 | wols_ | aliases123: define "does not match". to what? |
| 08:57.10 | aliases123 | reject invalid hostname |
| 08:57.11 | wols_ | endra: repos for main and security |
| 08:57.18 | wols_ | invalid HOW? |
| 08:58.22 | aliases123 | well that is just the rule they recommend on http://wiki.debian.org/Postfix?highlight=(postfix) |
| 08:58.35 | jon_ | probably reverse dns doesn't match forward name or given name |
| 08:59.34 | aliases123 | jon_: yep. however, there are som cases where real mail would be marked as spam under such a rule. |
| 09:00.16 | wols_ | aliases123: it's an anti spam measure, duh! |
| 09:01.06 | aliases123 | i never said it wasn't , i just said is it reasonable to work people that real main might be comming from a host who doesn't know / dodgy route. |
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| 09:03.08 | wols_ | aliases123: learn what tha up and downside of spam blocking are |
| 09:03.56 | aliases123 | wols_: i understand a lil. that is why i asked you! |
| 09:04.00 | jon_ | ro ler coas ter |
| 09:04.02 | jon_ | of spam |
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| 09:12.48 | joneal | hi |
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| 09:18.12 | karsten | joneal: Salubriations. |
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| 09:20.13 | wasynyt | hmm.. now i got it installed.. but for some reason the grub doesnt start automaically, could there be something wrong with my bios setting |
| 09:21.19 | IntangibleLiquid | off to install Debian, wish me luck |
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| 09:32.47 | F6F | hi |
| 09:33.04 | F6F | is there a debian or ubunu livecd for ppc? |
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| 09:35.07 | jon_ | F6F: for debian, www.debian.org; for ubunu, www.ubuntu.com |
| 09:36.45 | mat3o | hi, i am currently building a preseed config file, everything fine except the partman-auto/expert_recipe, which doesn't work at all, is it a know problem ? |
| 09:37.06 | F6F | thx jon_ |
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| 09:39.02 | Legality | hey, how can I look a text clip inside files |
| 09:39.17 | Legality | I have used to command often but I can't remember it at the moment |
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| 09:39.55 | jon_ | Legality: oh, then it's probably one of the files in /usr/bin or /bin |
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| 09:42.42 | Jckf | I'm having trouble exporting an NTFS drive. When mounting it on a remote computer, I get permission denied. |
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| 09:43.26 | AlexW | where do zone fiels go for bind in debian |
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| 09:46.31 | spx2 | can I have code under NO license at all ? this crap with licenses starts to freak me out |
| 09:46.37 | jon_ | AlexW: that info should be in /usr/share/doc/bind |
| 09:47.00 | jon_ | spx2: sure, why not? |
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| 09:49.16 | lastdays | I am use xfce4,I need configure my terminal default font size,how to?thanks |
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| 10:01.16 | yogahnee | hi I would like to encrypt individual lvms nothing fancy like root partition only the backup partition is this possible or do I have to encrypt the complete lvg |
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| 10:11.21 | ddrj | hey guys, where can i find the iptables list of denied and accepted ports in debian? (using 4.0) |
| 10:11.48 | ddrj | is it in here by any chance ? /etc/network/if-up.d/ |
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| 10:14.28 | ddrj | i don't see /iptables/ i mean |
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| 10:19.45 | phorce1 | how NOT to behave on an IRC help channel. http://paste.debian.net/18054/ |
| 10:20.32 | ddrj | lol |
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| 10:21.49 | geek_ | i made a mistake and removed all the package sets while installing, including basic system. is there any way to install basic system stuff after install or do i need to start again? |
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| 10:22.15 | phorce1 | geek_: run tasksel |
| 10:22.48 | geek_ | phorce1: ahh cool |
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| 10:22.52 | simonrvn | phorce1: holy fucking smokes |
| 10:23.42 | geek_ | simonrvn: one reason why irc clients shouldn't come with servers preset to connect ;p |
| 10:23.43 | dudeman | simonrvn, hi |
| 10:23.50 | Jckf | How can I export an NTFS drive so that anybody on my network will have full access to it? |
| 10:24.06 | phorce1 | simonrvn: That paste was from #linuxtv. Not a good channel if you're in a hurry anyway. I had answers to questions I asked pop up in conversation 2 DAYS after I asked. |
| 10:24.19 | simonrvn | hi |
| 10:24.25 | simonrvn | phorce1: wow |
| 10:24.35 | phorce1 | simonrvn: (and only 4 or 5 screens of scroll back in that 2 days) |
| 10:24.36 | geek_ | phorce1: lol. thats exactly why idleing is a time honoured tradition on IRC ;p |
| 10:24.39 | geek_ | o0 |
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| 10:25.34 | MariachiAC | How does one uprade to gnome2.24. I'm using debian Lenny. do i need ot change branches to testing or something? |
| 10:25.39 | geek_ | speaking of idleing, and irc. is there any programme that'll tell me how much bandwith another programme is using? i'm pondering scientifically solving a little arguement i have with someone ;p |
| 10:25.49 | phorce1 | It's why I frequently mark myself away (and forget to "come back"). My highlights get logged to the irssi message window when I'm /away |
| 10:25.49 | xingu | wasn't aware that dvb's media access control layer was endpoint-addressed |
| 10:25.56 | Kovensky | MariachiAC: you ARE on testing |
| 10:26.42 | unixSnob | Does the presence of an audio mixer indicate that a sound card driver was loaded okay? |
| 10:26.48 | unixSnob | I have a mixer, but hear no sound |
| 10:26.53 | geek_ | not really |
| 10:27.13 | phorce1 | unixSnob: hehe -- probably the alsamute problem |
| 10:27.19 | Kovensky | remembers the evil snd-pcsp |
| 10:27.23 | MariachiAC | Cavensky: Oh ok. |
| 10:27.41 | unixSnob | phorce1: i can see in the mixer that it's not muted |
| 10:27.42 | xingu | geek_: iftop? |
| 10:27.54 | phorce1 | unixSnob: alsamixer or another? |
| 10:28.07 | MariachiAC | So gnome 2.24 might be included soon I take it? |
| 10:28.29 | xingu | geek_: or maybe nethoks (never used it) |
| 10:28.33 | xingu | s/hok/hog/ |
| 10:28.42 | unixSnob | phorce1: i have choice of two devices for some reason... Alsa Mixer, or OSS mixer. I've tried both |
| 10:28.50 | simonrvn | MariachiAC: yes |
| 10:28.57 | Kovensky | MariachiAC: not on testing, not until it is released |
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| 10:29.03 | Kovensky | it will be on squeeze, but not on lenny |
| 10:29.04 | simonrvn | !wir |
| 10:29.04 | dpkg | somebody said wir was When It's Ready. See also RSN and SIYH |
| 10:29.07 | Kovensky | or sid :) |
| 10:29.23 | geek_ | xingu: huh? |
| 10:29.38 | simonrvn | i'm d/ling some preliminary gnome 2.24 stuff now |
| 10:29.41 | MariachiAC | so if I woudl liek to upgrade to gnome 2.24, what shal I do? I'm not familiar with squeze |
| 10:29.53 | simonrvn | MariachiAC: because it's not out yet |
| 10:29.54 | unixSnob | it's unmuted for both mixer devices |
| 10:29.57 | phorce1 | unixSnob: actually install the alsmixer package, run alsamixer, and make sure everything is unmuted |
| 10:30.04 | MariachiAC | Oh ok. |
| 10:30.41 | phorce1 | unixSnob: not "mixer devices", "sound devices" |
| 10:31.05 | MariachiAC | So am I able to upgrade to cid from Lenny? |
| 10:31.54 | unixSnob | phorce1: where do i toggle the sound device? Mixer preferences shows "alsa mixer" and "oss mixer" |
| 10:31.56 | phorce1 | keeps playing with audio packages and has to keep figuring out what he ran last when stuff goes quiet |
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| 10:32.17 | phorce1 | unixSnob: which mixer program is it? |
| 10:32.35 | simonrvn | MariachiAC: "sid"; sid is unstable. lenny is currently testing. that would be a *down*grade. |
| 10:32.49 | unixSnob | phorce1: not sure.. it was automatically installed |
| 10:32.51 | simonrvn | and not doable in any normal sense |
| 10:32.56 | tuxcrafter | would somebody be willing to help me out getting reportbug tool linked to icedove |
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| 10:33.11 | tuxcrafter | i keep making mistakes when using the reportbug tool on the cli |
| 10:33.17 | tuxcrafter | it is making me crazy |
| 10:33.18 | phorce1 | unixSnob: Oh, you're running gnome mixer. |
| 10:33.43 | unixSnob | phorce1: what's the proper name for the alsamixer package? My search finds "alsa-utils", "alsamixergui", and "gnome-alsamixer" |
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| 10:34.01 | simonrvn | tuxcrafter: reportbug --configure |
| 10:34.06 | MariachiAC | cifers: thank you |
| 10:34.07 | unixSnob | phorce1: you're probably right.. i'm running gnome |
| 10:34.08 | phorce1 | unixSnob: try just running 'alsamixer' in a terminal |
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| 10:34.59 | wols_ | maxamillion: gnome 2.24 is not in debian yet |
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| 10:35.10 | unixSnob | phorce1: it's available.. i'm looking at an ANSI mixer |
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| 10:35.53 | tuxcrafter | simonrvn: thanks but it did not help selecting or intergrating with icedove |
| 10:37.34 | tuxcrafter | simonrvn: i just want to start the bugreport with reportbug and then use icedove to set the emailadresss attachment pgp key etcetra |
| 10:37.40 | simonrvn | it just calls an editor, and maybe sendmail if you don't send to an mta... |
| 10:37.45 | phorce1 | unixSnob: go to all the ones that control output and use the "m" key to make sure they all have "OO" at the bottom and not "MM" |
| 10:37.52 | simonrvn | there's reportbug-ng you could try |
| 10:38.00 | maxamillion | wols_: ok |
| 10:38.17 | phorce1 | unixSnob: and make sure PCM is turned up a bit |
| 10:38.40 | dudeman | !pcm |
| 10:38.40 | dpkg | from memory, pcm is Pulse Code Modulation, an encoding that represts intensity for several samples. In the case of audio, each sample is how far the speaker should go out or in to produce sound. two channels at 44100 samples per second each, or 44100 hertz is CD quality |
| 10:38.42 | dudeman | ah |
| 10:38.50 | simonrvn | it's got a gooey (why do people say gooey when they could just say jee yioo aaai?) |
| 10:38.55 | tuxcrafter | simonrvn: eportbug-ng pulls down all kind of qt packages i dont want that |
| 10:39.10 | alch3my | saying and typing it are too different things ;) |
| 10:39.36 | phorce1 | simonrvn: It's save-a-syllable day |
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| 10:40.08 | simonrvn | two |
| 10:40.13 | dudeman | what |
| 10:40.17 | unixSnob | phorce1: speaker and headphone are both 00, and pcm is still turned up. it seems to be the same settings as i saw in gnome mixer |
| 10:40.19 | dudeman | goo+eee |
| 10:40.25 | dudeman | 2 |
| 10:40.33 | dudeman | gui is 3 |
| 10:40.39 | simonrvn | icky gooey |
| 10:40.39 | dudeman | so who is the lazy fuck? |
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| 10:41.01 | phorce1 | unixSnob: what about "front" |
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| 10:41.39 | simonrvn | what about "bend forwards and take it"? |
| 10:41.47 | simonrvn | is bad |
| 10:41.47 | phorce1 | unixSnob: hit F5 to make sure all the controls are showin |
| 10:41.49 | phorce1 | g |
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| 10:41.51 | unixSnob | phorce1: that's not a choice. This is not a fancy sound card.. it's built into a thinkpad |
| 10:42.02 | simonrvn | s/th/st/ |
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| 10:43.11 | phorce1 | there is no "th" in the last thing you typed |
| 10:43.26 | simonrvn | wasn't for me ;) |
| 10:43.32 | phorce1 | butthead |
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| 10:43.44 | simonrvn | hehe |
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| 10:43.47 | unixSnob | phorce1: i see that playback source is PCM, but can be switched to ADC |
| 10:44.41 | phorce1 | unixSnob: http://osdir.com/ml/org.user-groups.linux.cabal/2007-04/msg00073.html |
| 10:44.44 | phorce1 | ? |
| 10:46.58 | phorce1 | unixSnob: thinkpad sound seems to be a random issue according to a google of "debian sound thinkpad" |
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| 10:47.57 | geek_ | gawd. i hate netinstalls |
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| 10:48.05 | geek_ | mine's gonna take ~10 hours to finish o0 |
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| 10:48.41 | unixSnob | phorce1: hmm.. I'm not sure how to even go about troubleshooting it.. how to find what driver has been loaded, and whether it has errors. dmesg doesn't seem to report anything |
| 10:48.51 | phorce1 | unixSnob: might want to see what the F2 screen shows is installed |
| 10:49.16 | unixSnob | phorce1: when I had the factory linux installation on there, sound worked. when I installed debian 4, it broke |
| 10:49.25 | phorce1 | unixSnob: for a console app alsamixer is pretty freakin loaded |
| 10:49.25 | unixSnob | okay |
| 10:49.26 | wols_ | unixSnob: what soundchip |
| 10:49.39 | unixSnob | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:49.47 | wols_ | ick. how new is the stinkpad? |
| 10:49.57 | wols_ | and what model |
| 10:50.28 | unixSnob | i also see: AD198x Analog : AD198x Analog : playback 1 : capture 2 |
| 10:50.35 | unixSnob | T61 |
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| 10:50.53 | unixSnob | It's the T61 that comes with Novell Suse from the factory |
| 10:51.20 | unixSnob | it's just a couple months old |
| 10:51.50 | wols_ | what kernel version do you use? |
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| 10:52.35 | unixSnob | 2.6.25-2-amd64 |
| 10:53.26 | wols_ | http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installation_instructions_for_the_ThinkPad_T61 |
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| 10:55.33 | unixSnob | thanks wols_, i'll check it out |
| 10:57.44 | unixSnob | looks like i need to do some patchwork |
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| 11:01.41 | reber | hi all. Since i upgraded openssh, the /etc/ssh/sshd_config doesn't care of the Port section. Ideas ? |
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| 11:02.54 | reber | ssh2 found |
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| 11:16.19 | multi_io | has anyone ever run Xnest or Xephyr with a working Xinerama configuration (i.e. multiple adjacent screens)? |
| 11:16.47 | multi_io | all I can manage is "Xnest +xinerama -scrns 2 :1", which starts it with two screens that show identical display regions and thus identical contents |
| 11:17.03 | multi_io | documentation is nonexistant |
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| 11:17.25 | multi_io | Xephyr doesn't seem to have a manpage or anything like that |
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| 11:18.43 | cousin_luigi | hello |
| 11:19.17 | cousin_luigi | where do I set the defaults for vconfig? |
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| 11:19.34 | cousin_luigi | (etch) |
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| 11:20.17 | epsilon | you mean permanent vlan config? in ifconfig |
| 11:20.49 | cousin_luigi | I mean the flag for the interface name |
| 11:22.12 | epsilon | vconfig add <interface> <vlan-ID> |
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| 11:23.11 | cousin_luigi | epsilon: yes, but if I don't set DEV_PLUS_VID_NO_PAD, the new devices will be called eth0.000x instead of eth0.x |
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| 11:28.16 | subsume | I altered my /etc/aliases/ line to include root: root@anotherdomain.com expecting server-errors to be sent there. Is this ignorant? |
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| 11:31.36 | epsilon | try it: echo foo | mail root |
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| 11:35.17 | aliases123 | use mutt. |
| 11:36.33 | petemc | if using exim, exim4 -bt root |
| 11:36.56 | Legality | any ideas? When I try to mount my md1 on rescue mode, I get an error stating that either md1 is mounted or /mnt is busy |
| 11:37.01 | Legality | neither of which are true |
| 11:37.08 | Legality | md0 can be easily mounted |
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| 11:37.48 | wintix | subsume: i think you have to run newaliases after altering the file. |
| 11:37.57 | subsume | wintix: I did so |
| 11:39.05 | petemc | exim doesnt require you to run newaliases |
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| 11:40.10 | subsume | epsilon: echo foo | mail root gives no output |
| 11:40.42 | petemc | nor should it, check the log |
| 11:42.28 | subsume | it seems to still go to root@otherdomain.com |
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| 11:43.06 | epsilon | isnt that what you wanted? |
| 11:43.20 | subsume | no, I'd like root@domainfoo.com not bar.com, which it is now. |
| 11:43.29 | petemc | which mta are you using? |
| 11:43.33 | subsume | postfix |
| 11:44.08 | walid | helloo nice to meet yu |
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| 11:47.38 | go_beep_yourself | how can i know what half-installed, status, startup, configure, etc mean? |
| 11:47.46 | go_beep_yourself | in /var/log/dpkg.log |
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| 11:48.27 | subsume | petemc, episolon bink. |
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| 11:49.11 | aliases123 | hi for nfs i'm hitting an error where user ids are not maching. how does one allow by / assign by user name |
| 11:49.33 | go_beep_yourself | is there any documentation on /var/log/dpkg.log? |
| 11:49.42 | go_beep_yourself | so i can make sense of whats in it? |
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| 11:53.11 | aliases123 | nevermind fixed. |
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| 11:54.34 | wols_ | go_beep_yourself: it's a simple text file |
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| 12:00.50 | Stargazers^ | Hi. Has anyone of you installed Debian on N800? |
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| 12:01.27 | mavhc | Stargazers^: try #maemo |
| 12:02.07 | go_beep_yourself | wols_-> how can i know what half-installed, status, startup, configure, etc mean? |
| 12:02.10 | Stargazers^ | Ok. thanks. |
| 12:02.22 | go_beep_yourself | in that simple text file |
| 12:02.37 | Stargazers^ | But well, I have already installed it. Just interested if someone here can help how to change partition of chrooted debian bigger if it can be don. |
| 12:03.05 | go_beep_yourself | for example, in /var/log/dpkg.log, how can i know what this means? 2008-09-27 04:58:51 status half-configured sphinx2-hmm-6k 0.6-2 |
| 12:03.27 | wols_ | go_beep_yourself: man dpkg |
| 12:03.46 | wols_ | go_beep_yourself: it tried to run debconf but had an error |
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| 12:04.12 | go_beep_yourself | wols_-> does that happen often? |
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| 12:04.18 | eddieBB | what's the best FTP client for Debian? |
| 12:04.25 | wols_ | !tell eddieBB about best |
| 12:04.37 | go_beep_yourself | eddieBB-> mc |
| 12:04.42 | wols_ | go_beep_yourself: sometimes. especially if you run sid or testing |
| 12:04.45 | go_beep_yourself | eddieBB-> or krusader |
| 12:04.49 | eddieBB | what's the most 'recommended' FTP client? |
| 12:04.55 | wols_ | eddieBB: does not exist |
| 12:04.58 | Stargazers^ | eddieBB: I like personally lftp |
| 12:05.01 | Stargazers^ | CLI client. |
| 12:05.09 | wols_ | eddieBB: if you ask 10 people you get 15 answers |
| 12:05.48 | eddieBB | Stargazers^: can lftp upload 10+ files simultaneously to 1 server? |
| 12:06.07 | Stargazers^ | Well, not sure. Propabl y not. |
| 12:06.11 | go_beep_yourself | eddieBB-> krusader is pretty nice if u want gui app |
| 12:06.17 | wols_ | eddieBB: why would any ftp client do this? |
| 12:06.31 | eddieBB | go_beep_yourself: can krusader do it? |
| 12:06.46 | Stargazers^ | Well you can start many connections inside GNU screen ;) |
| 12:06.49 | Stargazers^ | Harr. |
| 12:06.59 | Stargazers^ | Maybe Filezilla can do it? |
| 12:07.02 | go_beep_yourself | eddieBB-> got an ftp server i can test it on? |
| 12:07.03 | wols_ | Stargazers^: won't help with what he wants |
| 12:07.12 | Stargazers^ | wols_: Ok. |
| 12:07.30 | eddieBB | go_beep_yourself: no, sorry |
| 12:07.40 | go_beep_yourself | eddieBB-> i would think so |
| 12:07.45 | wols_ | eddieBB: it's a useless feature since it doesn't help with anything |
| 12:07.48 | go_beep_yourself | eddieBB-> im pretty sure but not 100% |
| 12:08.01 | eddieBB | go_beep_yourself: okay, i'll give it a try. thanks. |
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| 12:08.45 | eddieBB | wols_: it helps you get max speed when the server caps at 1-2mb per file |
| 12:09.01 | wols_ | eddieBB: not for uploads... |
| 12:09.09 | eddieBB | wols_: yes. for uploads |
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| 12:25.40 | buntfalke | Are there no precompile modules for the qemu accelerator? |
| 12:26.48 | abrotman | for kqemu .. no .. m-a a-i kqemu .. IIRC |
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| 12:27.11 | buntfalke | okay, thanks |
| 12:27.23 | buntfalke | is there a particular reason? it's GPL, is it not? |
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| 12:29.45 | abrotman | it wasn't when etch released |
| 12:30.24 | spx2 | recommend some good weed pls |
| 12:30.37 | cousin_luigi | bye all! |
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| 12:31.02 | abrotman | spx2: wrong channel |
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| 12:38.56 | XTZGZoReX | Would this be the place for Makefile questions? |
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| 12:51.02 | herf2wa3_ | I have my ath0 configured for roaming with wpasupplicant. How can I find out what networks I am connected to? (ESSID's) |
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| 12:53.24 | maurizio | herf2wa3_: /sbin/iwconfig ath0 ? |
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| 12:56.14 | herf2wa3_ | maurizio: ok, thanks |
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| 12:57.15 | myeggo | hi |
| 12:57.20 | myeggo | is there a way to know the pid of the connections for kill them? |
| 12:58.40 | wols_ | myeggo: what connections? |
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| 13:00.03 | myeggo | im using a little computer as router, with iptables as firewall (sorry i forgot say it before) |
| 13:00.15 | myeggo | the nat connections basicly |
| 13:00.17 | wols_ | myeggo: does it run debian? |
| 13:00.21 | myeggo | yes it does |
| 13:00.31 | wols_ | netstat -anp will tell you |
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| 13:01.06 | wols_ | masqueraded connections won't show of course |
| 13:01.21 | myeggo | works wols_, thank you |
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| 13:10.01 | rdz | hi all. my box died (hardware failure) and i bought a new one. since it is different model, i would like to install everything from scratch. however, it would be cool, if i could install the same packages as i had before. i can read from the old box's drive. can i find a list of apt of all installed packages there? |
| 13:10.23 | Walex | rdz: yes. |
| 13:10.38 | rdz | Walex, may i ask where? |
| 13:10.38 | deus____ | man dpkg |
| 13:10.40 | deus____ | :D |
| 13:10.43 | wols_ | !clone |
| 13:10.43 | dpkg | our $apt=Blootbot->new($apt) |
| 13:10.47 | Walex | rdz: yes :-). |
| 13:10.55 | rdz | deus____, thanks |
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| 13:11.20 | wols_ | rdz: /msg dpkg debian clone |
| 13:12.42 | deus____ | would be easier than doing dpkg -l |
| 13:12.45 | deus____ | :D |
| 13:12.46 | rdz | wols_, thanks a lot... |
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| 13:13.44 | rdz | wols_, the proposed methode would require to boot from the old system, right? |
| 13:14.10 | wols_ | yes. but that's no problem for linux |
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| 13:20.32 | maurizio | rdz: alternatively, I think chroot into the old disk should be enough to apply the method. |
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| 13:27.26 | Insolit | hi guys |
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| 13:28.51 | Insolit | i need a small advice... for a network with around 60 users, can i use a normal adsl2+ home modem, disable its router funtionalities, build a linux a router and connect to it? |
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| 13:29.27 | Insolit | do you think the small modem will be able to hold all the connection to the internet? |
| 13:29.33 | Insolit | *connections |
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| 13:30.35 | bzed | Insolit: if you're able to disable the router stuff of your modem, yes, you can connect it to a linux box |
| 13:30.38 | bzed | works well |
| 13:31.05 | Insolit | at this moment, since i did not have the time to build the linux router, it loses the adsl connection too often |
| 13:31.26 | Insolit | i wonder if by disabling all its router functionalities it will be able to hold the connection |
| 13:31.33 | Insolit | or if... it will still break. |
| 13:31.38 | bzed | if it looses the dsl connection I'm not sure if a linux box helps |
| 13:31.53 | Insolit | yeap, that's what worries me now. |
| 13:32.00 | Insolit | if it crashed... |
| 13:32.05 | bzed | you ahve to figure out what dies |
| 13:32.20 | Insolit | all network routing functionalities remain |
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| 13:32.30 | Insolit | just the dsp connection is lost |
| 13:32.32 | Insolit | *dsl |
| 13:32.43 | bzed | can you log into the device? |
| 13:32.45 | bzed | using ssh or so? |
| 13:32.49 | Insolit | telnet |
| 13:32.52 | Insolit | web interface |
| 13:32.59 | bzed | are you *sure* the connection is down? |
| 13:33.13 | Insolit | bzed: it reports the connection as being down |
| 13:33.38 | Insolit | so... if i can trust the web interface... it's the dsl connection that is down |
| 13:33.48 | bzed | well |
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| 13:34.29 | bzed | is the dsl connection down (form the modem to the dslam) or the pppoe connection from the router to the modem? |
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| 13:35.13 | Insolit | not sure if i understood your question, but at this moment, router and modem are the same device |
| 13:35.27 | Insolit | clearly that device is not meant to hold 50-60 users |
| 13:35.34 | Insolit | that more like a home device |
| 13:35.37 | Insolit | *that's |
| 13:36.18 | Insolit | but i wonder if even by disabling it as a router and using it only as a modem, if the it will hold all the required connections. |
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| 13:37.34 | bzed | Insolit: well the router part of these thingies has a pppoe connection to the internal modem |
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| 13:37.47 | takeshi- | hi all |
| 13:37.51 | bzed | and the modem connects via your phone line to the dslam on the other end |
| 13:37.52 | bzed | Insolit: ^ |
| 13:38.05 | bzed | Insolit: so the question is where the connection dies |
| 13:38.25 | Insolit | mhh |
| 13:38.50 | takeshi- | I have a little question |
| 13:38.57 | Insolit | i could almost be sure it's the connection to the dslam |
| 13:39.10 | Insolit | since i lose the external IP for example |
| 13:39.12 | takeshi- | i want to install these packages: mesa-utils xlibmesa-dri xlibmesa-gl xlibmesa-glu |
| 13:39.23 | takeshi- | ina debian etch |
| 13:39.42 | bzed | Insolit: if you have a good isp you could call their service and ask them to check your line and look if there were errors |
| 13:39.45 | takeshi- | when i use apt-get |
| 13:39.58 | Insolit | bzed: honestly I don't have much faith on them... |
| 13:40.04 | Insolit | but I guess I'll have to try |
| 13:40.09 | Insolit | also ask for some recommendation. |
| 13:40.11 | bzed | !tell takeshi- about enter |
| 13:40.34 | Insolit | !tell insolit- about enter |
| 13:40.44 | Insolit | :D |
| 13:40.52 | Insolit | Need to learn that as well, eheh |
| 13:40.59 | takeshi- | nothing happens |
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| 13:41.08 | Insolit | Also have that stupid habbit, don't know why... |
| 13:41.19 | takeshi- | i need special repositories in my sources.list? |
| 13:41.21 | bzed | !enter |
| 13:41.21 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. |
| 13:41.24 | bzed | takeshi-: ^ |
| 13:41.58 | abrotman | takeshi-: perhaps they're already installed ? |
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| 13:42.23 | takeshi- | no |
| 13:42.24 | bzed | takeshi-: put the apt-get output on paste.debian.net, and we'll see |
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| 13:42.40 | takeshi- | ok |
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| 13:42.58 | olspookishmagus | what could I've done so that arrow keys, Page Up/Down, Home/End, Insert, Delete keys will NOT work in any of the virtual consoles? |
| 13:43.05 | takeshi- | i will do i am in my girlfriend laptop now |
| 13:43.12 | takeshi- | but thanks for all |
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| 13:44.11 | Casperin | I have a usb stick partitioned into two 1gb parts. How do I partition it into just one 2gb partition? |
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| 13:44.44 | pngwn | Casperin, man fdisk |
| 13:44.46 | bzed | Casperin: with cfdisk or gparted or similar tools |
| 13:44.49 | olspookishmagus | Casperin: have you taken all you data away from there? |
| 13:44.49 | bzed | fdisk |
| 13:44.53 | Casperin | sure |
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| 13:45.28 | Asymmetry_ | Oops. |
| 13:45.44 | olspookishmagus | is there an equivalent for xev (x event viewer) for keyboard events in the virtual consoles? |
| 13:45.48 | Asymmetry_ | Let's have a round of applause for Slash! ... Oh, wait, he's not there. |
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| 13:47.13 | blubberdiblub | olspookishmagus, you mean like "showkey" in the console-tools package? |
| 13:47.15 | enouf | olspookishmagus: showkey |
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| 13:48.01 | olspookishmagus | thanks blubberdiblub, enouf I will try to see if I can get any lead to that problem |
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| 13:49.05 | olspookishmagus | well, the keypresses are being sent to the shell but are not interpreted as they should |
| 13:49.07 | enouf | olspookishmagus: oh - when that happens, hit the Insert key |
| 13:49.22 | Casperin | pngwn, bzed, olspookishmagus; thanks :) |
| 13:49.47 | olspookishmagus | enouf: can you try explaining this to me? |
| 13:49.59 | olspookishmagus | it got resolved right now |
| 13:50.05 | olspookishmagus | but why and how? |
| 13:50.11 | enouf | !insert |
| 13:50.11 | dpkg | i guess insert is Question; "why did the up and down arrow keys stop working on my ttys all of a sudden? they wont respond and show command history or anything. but the keys work fine in X" -- Answer is--> hit the Insert key to clear it up - seems to affect 2.6.26-1-686 Debian kernels |
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| 13:50.26 | AlexW | how do i stop resolv.conf from upadting at bootitme |
| 13:50.38 | enouf | olspookishmagus: i have no idea, i accidentally stumbled onto the fix for myself after experiencing the issue myself |
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| 13:51.43 | enouf | AlexW: man dhcp{TAB}{TAB} |
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| 13:51.52 | enouf | one of those files |
| 13:51.59 | enouf | !resolv.conf |
| 13:51.59 | dpkg | resolv.conf is probably /etc/resolv.conf, resolver configuration file that contains your nameserver IPs. It's written by DHCP client. To use different nameservers than those provided by DHCP, use eg. "supersede domain-name-servers 127.0.0.1;" in /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf. You can also "prepend" or "append" instead of "supersede". |
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| 13:53.31 | shyam_k | can i make some cds that will autorun some html files? |
| 13:53.53 | AlexW | enouf: thanks, thats what i was looking for |
| 13:53.54 | ircbin | Hello! I must use Debian lenny because of sound hardware problems... Which is the best way to install it? |
| 13:54.29 | shyam_k | i want to create a cd that when inserted to a working debian,should load an html by default..is that possible? |
| 13:54.52 | ircbin | I upgrade from etch, but the system seams to be slow and instable... |
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| 13:55.21 | shyam_k | i am trying to give a set of video tutorials so i want the users to get the html intro page as they insert the cd on debian.. |
| 13:55.46 | wols_ | there is no autorun on linux |
| 13:55.55 | wols_ | doesn't even automount always |
| 13:55.59 | shyam_k | hmm.. |
| 13:56.06 | Kovensky | wols_: weirdly, there is an option to autorun stuff on gnome-volume-manager |
| 13:56.14 | Kovensky | however I have no idea on how that works |
| 13:56.20 | shyam_k | yeah thats what i was thinking.. if the system is configured not to look on the cds, how can the autorun work.. |
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| 13:57.16 | shyam_k | ok, can we make it like, clicking the cd icon or something? |
| 13:57.41 | shyam_k | ha thats as good as opening the index.html inside the cdrom dir:) |
| 13:57.50 | shyam_k | so can i conclude on that ? |
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| 14:01.51 | enouf | look man, if the users can't even get autorun to work, they don't deserve to be near a keyboard -- on the other hand, if the user is savvy, they've disabled all that bullcrap |
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| 14:02.54 | shyam_k | enouf: my audiance are school children, and they are not budding computer engineers.. i want them to learn how to use computer for their home use |
| 14:03.09 | _Jack_Sparrow_ | Hello! I'm trying to get my TV out working with my nVidia card (nvidia drivers here). But in nvidia-settings only "X Screen 0" shows up. What is the problem here? |
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| 14:03.38 | shyam_k | a lill more searching gave me something useful which hints me that if the cd is having a script named "autorun" in the root directory, it will run! is that true?! |
| 14:03.41 | _Jack_Sparrow_ | Do I need to edit my xorg.conf first? O_o |
| 14:03.52 | shyam_k | http://research.silmaril.ie/autoruncd/autorun |
| 14:04.01 | Insolit | _Jack_Sparrow_: i would xrandr |
| 14:04.06 | Insolit | *I would try |
| 14:04.33 | Insolit | shyam_k: are u talking about windows autorun? |
| 14:04.40 | shyam_k | ofcourse not.. |
| 14:04.45 | Insolit | ah |
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| 14:05.07 | hoxu | shyam_k, that script is a piece of crap. And there is no autorun on Linux, apart from some desktop environments sniffing the media and suggesting actions |
| 14:05.26 | Insolit | what's so hard about clicking twice in a icon? |
| 14:05.35 | Insolit | you want to teach kids to use computers |
| 14:05.45 | Insolit | and u want to make everything automatic for them? |
| 14:05.51 | Actium | Hi, I'm looking to setup a vpn on a debian box so that I can connect to it on one port and effectively tunnel all other ports through that one port. Anyone know how I can do this? |
| 14:05.56 | Legality | I have sda and sdb on the same md array. What happens if I remove the sda while the array is resyncing? |
| 14:06.01 | Legality | will the array on sdb be incomplete? |
| 14:06.34 | shyam_k | hmm.. these days as i insert my usb thumb drive, on my lap, it asks whether i should run the autorun script inside it. the cause is the virus that affected from some windows machine that i had inserted that thumb before and that creating a directory called Autorun |
| 14:07.03 | mavhc | you don't know how to use computers, you know how to use a specific OS varient with specific options set |
| 14:07.30 | _Jack_Sparrow_ | Insolit: thanks. I'm taking a look at it now. I just wasn't expecting that an external tool was needed, and that instead the nvidia-settings would do everything. |
| 14:07.45 | shyam_k | i agree autorun is good to avoid, considering the security aspect.. children can double click on the icon!!:) |
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| 14:14.00 | _Jack_Sparrow_ | Insolit: only one monitor is detected (both with lxrandr or grandr) :-( |
| 14:14.45 | wols_ | _Jack_Sparrow_: you run debian now? |
| 14:15.13 | jelly-home | "now"? |
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| 14:15.26 | wols_ | jelly-home: he's a ubuntu op |
| 14:15.39 | _Jack_Sparrow_ | wols_: yes, I'm running debian |
| 14:15.54 | _Jack_Sparrow_ | version 2.6.26-1-amd64 |
| 14:16.18 | wols_ | Jaif: check your Xorg.0.log. if more than one output is detected it will show there |
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| 14:16.30 | Insolit | mh |
| 14:16.32 | Insolit | there's a setting in xorg.conf |
| 14:16.35 | _Jack_Sparrow_ | nvidia drivers version 173.14.09 (about 2 months old) |
| 14:16.38 | wols_ | and yes,you should edit xorg.conf (imho) |
| 14:17.21 | Insolit | _Jack_Sparrow_: there's a setting in xorg.conf, that disables tv detection and it's usually enabled so that xrandr does not cause a stupid issue, if a TV is not connected |
| 14:17.27 | rdz | maurizio, yo.. thanks a lot.. i think, this will be easier than booting on a different system |
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| 14:18.04 | _Jack_Sparrow_ | Insolit: do you know which extension is it? |
| 14:18.11 | Insolit | _Jack_Sparrow_: xrandr -q just reports a monitor right? |
| 14:18.51 | _Jack_Sparrow_ | Insolit: yes, xrandr -q only detects one display |
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| 14:19.06 | Insolit | _Jack_Sparrow_: also you need to remove xinerama and all those things so that xrandr works properly |
| 14:19.22 | maurizio | rdz: you're welcome. OTOH, booting the disk on a new system works without difficulties either, it just boots and works... |
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| 14:19.58 | shyam_k | what else i just tried creating an iso with a script named autorun in it.. and tried mounting it on /media/cdrom as i would do with a normal cd iso.. and it simply didnt work:) |
| 14:20.15 | Insolit | _Jack_Sparrow_: http://bgoglin.livejournal.com/9846.html |
| 14:20.19 | olspookishmagus | do you people think as well the the apache configuration file (apache.conf) is seriously crippled? there are so many section that there could be in there commented, what's the fuss on removing even those? |
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| 14:20.53 | abrotman | olspookishmagus: huh? |
| 14:22.12 | olspookishmagus | the apache.conf misses many sections that there were there in other and older Debian installations... like AddType, AddLanguage... all there are no longer within the apache.conf file... not even precceded by a -> # <- (commented) |
| 14:22.39 | abrotman | compared to apache1 ? |
| 14:23.33 | Insolit | olspookishmagus: have u checked the included files? |
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| 14:24.18 | olspookishmagus | Insolit: you give me a hint, but I need more that that, what do you mean? |
| 14:24.21 | _Jack_Sparrow_ | Insolit: I can't even remove xinerama packages in my system... I get 178 broken packages so far |
| 14:24.22 | EnZ^2- | is it possible to load the OS to ram? |
| 14:24.22 | Aspin65 | who is that azeem guy on oftc? |
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| 14:24.31 | blubberdiblub | olspookishmagus, try /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/mime.conf |
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| 14:24.49 | Insolit | _Jack_Sparrow_: dont remove them, just check the link i gave you and write a proper xorg.conf |
| 14:24.51 | _Jack_Sparrow_ | about the other settings mentioned in that site, I have things like that, except for the Virtual line |
| 14:25.20 | _Jack_Sparrow_ | oh, ok... I don't have any xinerama or dual-thingies in my xorg.conf |
| 14:25.20 | Insolit | gotta go now, good luck |
| 14:25.46 | abrotman | olspookishmagus: are you using apache1 or apache2? |
| 14:26.07 | _Jack_Sparrow_ | ok, thanks anyway |
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| 14:27.15 | olspookishmagus | blubberdiblub: thanks :) |
| 14:27.16 | olspookishmagus | abrotman: I got a bit confused about apache2, the last apache I was working on was Apache/2.2.3 which definitely did not follow this kind of configuration file(s) structure |
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| 14:27.53 | _Jack_Sparrow_ | wols_: you mentioned editing xorg.conf, is there anything more besides what is mentioned in http://bgoglin.livejournal.com/9846.html ? |
| 14:28.00 | abrotman | olspookishmagus: apache2 on debian has /etc/apache2/ where there are a few files . but then they also have the mods-available and sites-available with more config settings |
| 14:28.26 | abrotman | olspookishmagus: there isn't a single file with the default setup |
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| 14:29.01 | olspookishmagus | abrotman: well the mods-enabled folder in Apache 2.2.3 was empty ^^ |
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| 14:29.20 | abrotman | olspookishmagus: mods-available ... if mods-enabled is empty .. you haven't enabled any yet |
| 14:29.53 | MadHag | oi, azeem, what is your problem? |
| 14:30.20 | gonzzor | Is there any packages for arm-elf-gcc cross compiler? |
| 14:30.22 | olspookishmagus | abrotman: on that particullar server running 2.2.3 had PHP enabled, and still the mods-enabled was empty - but let's don't stress this out much, when I'll have my hands on that box again, I'll come back to you |
| 14:30.25 | abrotman | MadHag: do not discuss this in the channel |
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| 14:30.30 | wols_ | _Jack_Sparrow_: from the factoid: read /usr/share/doc/NVIDIA_GLX-1.0/ README and example script |
| 14:30.41 | MadHag | well sort the nonce out |
| 14:30.44 | abrotman | MadHag: STOP |
| 14:31.02 | MadHag | . |
| 14:31.02 | abrotman | olspookishmagus: okay .. sounds good |
| 14:31.28 | abrotman | olspookishmagus: also look at 'a2ensite' and 'a2enmod' .. alternately a2dissite and a2dismod |
| 14:31.41 | wols_ | _Jack_Sparrow_: you need to tell xorg.conf about the 2nd output in xorg.conf |
| 14:32.13 | olspookishmagus | abrotman: I added to my todo-list a note to setup an ssl server to that box so I can make comparisons on the fly ^^ |
| 14:32.26 | abrotman | you mean ssh server? |
| 14:32.34 | _Jack_Sparrow_ | wols_: thanks. One more question: you told me to check Xorg.0.log, I did and it only shows one display. Should I reboot now because I've connected the tv out now? |
| 14:32.41 | _Jack_Sparrow_ | ok |
| 14:32.51 | wols_ | _Jack_Sparrow_: restarting X is enough |
| 14:32.52 | wols_ | !reboot |
| 14:32.52 | dpkg | You want to reboot for WHAT?? If it's not a new kernel or a hardware change, you probably don't need to reboot. Ask me about <qotd2>. |
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| 14:33.55 | olspookishmagus | abrotman: yup ssh I meant |
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| 14:34.28 | olspookishmagus | is pasting links forbidden? |
| 14:34.38 | abrotman | depends what they are |
| 14:34.40 | _Jack_Sparrow_ | ok, I'll restart X, brb |
| 14:34.43 | wols_ | depends. if it's debian support related links it's fine |
| 14:34.50 | olspookishmagus | ok you check it and you tell me -> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080923-study-confirms-users-are-idiots.html |
| 14:34.57 | wols_ | _Jack_Sparrow_: irssi :) |
| 14:35.08 | geek_ | bleh |
| 14:35.09 | wols_ | olspookishmagus: yes it is forbidden and you are an idiot |
| 14:35.18 | abrotman | and we don't like ars technica anyways! |
| 14:35.21 | wols_ | olspookishmagus: how was this debian related |
| 14:35.25 | geek_ | needs to wait till tommorrow to be able to play with his server. >< |
| 14:35.44 | _Jack_Sparrow_ | wols_: mmh? I'm using konversation... or is that an acronym? |
| 14:35.54 | wols_ | !irssi |
| 14:35.54 | dpkg | irssi is probably the best irc client ever "aptitude install irssi" ; see http://www.irssi.org, http://www.irssi.org/documentation/startup or see the #irssi channel on freenode |
| 14:35.57 | geek_ | lol |
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| 14:36.19 | olspookishmagus | wols_: pardon me then |
| 14:36.32 | wols_ | I don't |
| 14:37.01 | _Jack_Sparrow_ | oh ok, I see... that was a suggestion :) ok, thanks |
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| 14:39.23 | shyam_k | ah it just was coz i didnt make the autorun executable. |
| 14:39.33 | shyam_k | so now people,gnu/linux too have autorun!:) |
| 14:40.02 | shyam_k | and ofcourse its easier to just click on the index.html |
| 14:40.04 | shyam_k | ! |
| 14:40.24 | shyam_k | but there is autorun right? that is +1 satisfied customer for me! |
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| 14:42.43 | wols_ | shyam_k: 80% of all people won't use it since it won't work for them |
| 14:42.51 | shyam_k | ofcourse yes |
| 14:43.17 | shyam_k | may be after 2-3 years as lenny and the like with this newer gnome has reached everywhere.. |
| 14:43.49 | kanzure | I must not understand how to use ssh with keys. I sent the key over to the server I want to connect to, and now when I attempt to ssh over, it asks me for a password. What do I do? |
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| 14:44.41 | shyam_k | wols_: its just that the user should have the latest gnome which looks for autorun scripts right? |
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| 14:45.07 | shyam_k | and ok, the cd should mount(i dont see cds not mounting on gnu/linux at this stage) |
| 14:45.27 | paxcoder | People, could someone check, I think Gmail Notify cannot connect to the mailbox anymore, do anyone of you use it, can you check if you can still connect? |
| 14:45.27 | shyam_k | with the latest versions ofcourse.. |
| 14:46.46 | paxcoder | anyone? |
| 14:46.59 | paxcoder | (first time I see #debian quiet :-) ) |
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| 14:51.05 | slidesinger_lt | Running debian etch, no x, as a server. There is an operator user group that will be interfacing via a menu structure to do such things as extra backups for the month close of the accounting system. Is there a way that this can occur automatically at the login of just this one user group? |
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| 14:51.49 | shyam_k | may be this question will be asked repeatedly and discussed in mailing list for several time.. and people please dont be anger 0)I dont use Ubuntu and i have serious difference in opinion about their philosophy 1)isn't debian lacking something considering the case of home users? why people prefer ubuntu over debian?is it just that its having more freedom-subtracted packages in it? like this autorun and all, home users may feel a lott |
| 14:51.49 | shyam_k | comfortable because they just want the system to do it for them..and they are not at all interested to study..because they are interested to deal with something else and OS is just an aid. |
| 14:52.56 | shyam_k | sorry brb.. i may not respond..but will continue online.. |
| 14:53.51 | abrotman | shyam_k: that's not really a topic for this channel |
| 14:53.58 | nkuttler | shyam_k: please try asking short questions, one at a time. and we don't really care about ubuntu vs debian |
| 14:54.52 | geek_ | shyam_k: personally, different targets. I started off using ubuntu and i still do. i prefer debian in some cases, like for servers and older boxes |
| 14:55.13 | geek_ | also, since they have the same basic design, anything i learn on one is useful for the other |
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| 14:55.53 | abrotman | geek_: that's not really a topic for this channel |
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| 14:56.38 | geek_ | abrotman: suppose not ;) |
| 14:56.47 | geek_ | hmmm |
| 14:57.12 | roxy_ | My thunderbird is always giving me error when sending mail (on settings that used to work). I tried other smtp server but all fails (they work from ... work). I checked my iptables, everything seems ok. What else can I check ? |
| 14:57.29 | geek_ | what's the minimal set of packages i need to compile programmes- i know of build essental but i doubt i need kernel headers and such for what i'll be doing |
| 14:58.06 | crashanddie | geek_, that's your OS that requires that |
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| 14:58.17 | wols_ | geek_: gcc, libc6-dev, binutils I guess |
| 14:58.32 | wols_ | !tell roxy_ about errors |
| 14:58.49 | geek_ | wols_: ahh cool |
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| 15:01.24 | roxy_ | When I send mail I just got the status line Connecting to ..... for 10 minutest then a fail to connect to server error. |
| 15:02.21 | roxy_ | I know 3 smtp servers that all works (the one from my work, the one from my isp, and gmail). All gives the same result when the used to works ok. |
| 15:02.56 | wols_ | try to telnet to one of them on port 25 |
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| 15:04.27 | roxy_ | wols_: is there a telnet clone accepted by harden ? |
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| 15:07.40 | wols_ | roxy_: there is simply telnet and it's no security risk at all. telnetd is |
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| 15:09.26 | roxy_ | wols_: harden-clients: Conflicts: telnet but 0.17-36 is to be installed. |
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| 15:11.57 | wols_ | roxy_: netcat then I guess |
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| 15:13.33 | weebl_ | Hello |
| 15:14.03 | weebl_ | I would like to check out which processes use how much banwidth, how can I do this |
| 15:14.06 | roxy_ | wols_: gmail-smtp-msa.l.google.com [209.85.135.109] 587 (submission) : Connection refused |
| 15:14.31 | wols_ | roxy_: you might be on a rbl |
| 15:15.21 | roxy_ | wols_: you mean this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNSBL |
| 15:15.40 | weebl_ | CAn any1 read this message? |
| 15:15.51 | roxy_ | weebl_: no |
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| 15:16.20 | weebl_ | What is the easiest way to find out what program is using all the banwidth. |
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| 15:16.24 | roxy_ | wols_: I can connect from work to those smtp server, so that would mean my ip is blacklisted, but by who ? |
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| 15:17.33 | wols_ | by a RBL |
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| 15:18.41 | roxy_ | what would be the best way to get this sorted out ? |
| 15:19.01 | aliases123 | roxy_: run windows at home ? |
| 15:19.05 | aliases123 | if so don't . |
| 15:19.41 | roxy_ | aliases123: neither at work or home. thanks for your help |
| 15:20.08 | aliases123 | do you run a smtp server at home ? (check the bounce / denial of service messages) |
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| 15:20.34 | roxy_ | I don't run a smtp server at home, don't intend to. |
| 15:21.01 | roxy_ | I just want to be able to send messages :-) |
| 15:21.11 | aliases123 | so get a proxy / relay to send via |
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| 15:21.46 | slidesinger_lt | I've been all over the debian-administration site and there is not a single thing on login scripts. I can not find anything regarding this topic for linux in general anywhere on the web, with the exception of folks asking the same question. Is there login script support for linux? |
| 15:21.49 | roxy_ | I would find it easier to know if I am on rbl, and get out of it if I am. |
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| 15:22.46 | roxy_ | slidesinger_lt: what do you mean login script support ? a script that run when you login ? |
| 15:22.51 | aliases123 | slidesinger_lt: yeah of course there are. you are just googling wrong. (probably) |
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| 15:23.24 | slidesinger_lt | roxy_: Yes, a script that automatically executes when you login. |
| 15:24.20 | wols_ | slidesinger_lt: there are about a dozen |
| 15:24.31 | slidesinger_lt | aliases123: I've googled "login script" linux and login linux. I find the questions, but no answers. |
| 15:24.41 | wols_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:24.43 | roxy_ | slidesinger_lt: you have a lot of option. |
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| 15:26.45 | roxy_ | wols_: I got 3 lines: RBL filtered by zen.spamhaus.org ? Would that mean I am blacklisted. If so how to get out ? |
| 15:27.04 | roxy_ | wols_: (I checked on http://w3dt.net/tools/arbl/) |
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| 15:27.52 | slidesinger_lt | wols_: Thanks, that put me on the right track, now I am turning up information on the subject. |
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| 15:29.36 | mns | I've got about 60 systems that I'd like to ping and then report on their status on sortable web page, along with their IP address, what type of system it is, and some other minor information. Anyone know of a way to do this ? |
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| 15:29.57 | mns | s/on sortable/on a sortable |
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| 15:30.50 | simNIX__ | mns; I use nagios to momitor my servers |
| 15:31.09 | Asymmetry | Debian isn't seeing my RAID array. It's just reporting physical disks. |
| 15:31.27 | abrotman | it's not real raid |
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| 15:31.47 | Asymmetry | Meaning? |
| 15:31.59 | abrotman | you'll have to use software raid |
| 15:32.04 | abrotman | what's your raid controller ? |
| 15:32.19 | mns | simNIX__: Doesn't nagios need some sort of agent on each system ? Or does it simply ping and report back ? |
| 15:32.20 | Asymmetry | It's just the built-in controller with my mobo. |
| 15:32.32 | abrotman | which is? |
| 15:32.38 | Asymmetry | MCP51 on a 650i. |
| 15:32.41 | abrotman | well .. like i said .. it's not real raid |
| 15:32.44 | simNIX__ | mns; both ways is posible with it |
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| 15:33.40 | tolecnal | mns: Nagios has heaps of methods to check a remote host. icmp, tcp, snmp, agents etcet c |
| 15:33.51 | tolecnal | errr, etc etc |
| 15:34.17 | slidesinger_lt | Asymmetry: Historically, there are two kinds of RAID, hardware RAID and software RAID. A true hardware RAID shows the logical drive as a physical device to the OS, whereas a software RAID shows the underlying physical layer. I've heard there is now a firmware RAID, but I don't know anything about that. |
| 15:34.22 | wols_ | roxy_: depends on each individual RBL |
| 15:34.35 | mns | simNIX__, tolecnal Thanks. that helps. |
| 15:34.59 | Asymmetry | slidesinger_lt, well, if I have to use software RAID, is there any compatibility between a software RAID array within Debian, and FreeBSD? |
| 15:35.01 | simNIX | yw |
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| 15:35.33 | mns | tolecnal: are those methods out of the box or via plugins ? |
| 15:35.54 | slidesinger_lt | Asymmetry: I'm not sure. Never done a software RAID on FreeBSD. |
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| 15:36.40 | blubberdiblub | !tell Asymmetry -about fakeraid |
| 15:36.41 | tolecnal | mns: basically, Nagios can check anything as long as you can check it via scripts writting in perl, bash or tcl for that matter. or elf binaries. and everything is plugin based |
| 15:37.12 | tolecnal | s/wrtting/written/ |
| 15:37.20 | tolecnal | this damn SSH lag is killing me today |
| 15:37.20 | Asymmetry | Thanks. |
| 15:37.26 | slidesinger_lt | Asymmetry: I do them on Debian all the time, though. Debian actually handles software RAID better than any other free distro that I have used. |
| 15:38.05 | Asymmetry | Oh, cool. |
| 15:38.29 | abrotman | !swraid |
| 15:38.29 | dpkg | hmm... software raid is commonly used to describe RAID facilities in the Linux kernel. This means that you can RAID with any disks, with no need for a "special" (read winmodem) hardware controller. http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-RAID-HOWTO.html also see http://linux.yyz.us/why-software-raid.html or see section 6.3.2.2 of the <ig> |
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| 15:40.07 | Asymmetry | That's perfect, thank you. |
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| 15:44.57 | Mitar | is there a tool to list leaf packages (packages which do not have any dependencies upon them) installed on the system? |
| 15:45.09 | abrotman | deborphan |
| 15:45.37 | abrotman | probably should read its man page |
| 15:45.42 | Mitar | thanks |
| 15:50.04 | roxy_ | wols_: thanks, I found some information on the site of each. |
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| 16:03.48 | Farhadix | Hi guys, How i can know what is Encoding of a file? |
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| 16:04.34 | drazak | if you open it with mplayer, it ought to tell you |
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| 16:05.19 | maurizio | Farhadix: are talking about text (ie utf8 for example) or media files? |
| 16:05.29 | Farhadix | text file |
| 16:06.01 | MXIIA | How could I make someone an FTP account where they only have access to one directory and all contained files/dirs? (instead of the whole server) |
| 16:06.15 | maurizio | Farhadix: then from my (short) experience, there is no general way. I'd be happy to be proved wrong though. |
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| 16:06.38 | geek_ | er |
| 16:06.51 | geek_ | i thought some FTP servers let you do just that |
| 16:07.30 | abrotman | MXIIA: chroot |
| 16:07.57 | Farhadix | I wanna change encoding a subtitle with iconv, it returns this error : "iconv: illegal input sequence at position 34" how fix it? |
| 16:08.16 | MXIIA | geek_ I'm using ProFTPD... does that have this feature? |
| 16:08.16 | Farhadix | s/a subtitle/an subtitle |
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| 16:08.42 | geek_ | MXIIA: beats me, i'm waiting for my server to finish installing ;p |
| 16:08.49 | MXIIA | abrotman, would I have to chmod the rest of the files to prevent them from seeing them |
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| 16:09.05 | maurizio | Farhadix: I think this means that the input encoding you use for iconv is wrong. |
| 16:09.08 | MXIIA | geek_, lol cool, I got my server up a few weeks ago.. still learning |
| 16:09.25 | abrotman | MXIIA: your FTP server should have instructions on doing a chroot .. i know how to do it with proftpd |
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| 16:09.41 | timur | what do i need to compile into the kernel to get the cpufreq interface on 2.6.26 for core duo? i seem to have thrown in everything related to speedstep (i think it used speedstep?) and scaling |
| 16:09.44 | MXIIA | ok, thanks abrotman |
| 16:10.11 | wols_ | timur: start with a debian kernel |
| 16:10.19 | Farhadix | i didn't identify input encoding, because i don't know what is that! for this problem i asked how find encoding of a file! :D |
| 16:10.28 | geek_ | MXIIA: i had the DVD, but the box dosen't want to boot off it. and my local mirror didn't work. netinstalls are painful >< |
| 16:11.19 | MXIIA | I used the netinst with an ethernet cable into my router |
| 16:11.34 | timur | i'd be happy to start with a deb config file, but at this point don't really want to install a deb kernel... i guess i'll give it a shot though if no one knows off han |
| 16:11.35 | timur | *hand |
| 16:11.55 | geek_ | MXIIA: ditto. install time is ~10 hours for me |
| 16:12.22 | MXIIA | geek_, took me about 4... 10 hours is .. insane |
| 16:12.41 | geek_ | MXIIA: yeah, especially when i have the DVD ;p |
| 16:12.45 | timur | 4 hours? did you guys install everything available? |
| 16:12.50 | maurizio | Farhadix: I understand your pain. Facing this problem I ended up trying all possible input encodings with iconv (1351 encodings iirc). Most of them fail, some work. Among these one will be the good one... It's awful, I agree. |
| 16:12.53 | MXIIA | yea lol |
| 16:12.55 | Farhadix | maurizio, i found a way! open file with firefox and change character encoding |
| 16:13.03 | geek_ | timur: basic install. NO tasksel stuff selected |
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| 16:13.16 | timur | and that took 10??? |
| 16:13.23 | geek_ | but i'm using a USA mirror when in singapore cause none of the reigional mirrors worked for me |
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| 16:13.34 | timur | oh, gotcha. ouch |
| 16:13.36 | Farhadix | maurizio, to find encoding of file |
| 16:13.36 | timur | that sucks |
| 16:13.39 | geek_ | timur: more or less it should at this rate >< |
| 16:13.47 | timur | yea, sorry man |
| 16:13.50 | geek_ | timur: well once it up no worried ;p |
| 16:13.52 | geek_ | worries |
| 16:14.24 | maurizio | Farhadix: I'm not sure how general this method is, but if it solved your problem, great... |
| 16:14.27 | timur | haha yea, i guess i got spoiled grabbing things off the mit mirror at around 800kB/s |
| 16:14.33 | geek_ | ... |
| 16:14.34 | geek_ | meanie |
| 16:14.55 | timur | haha don't mean to rub it in |
| 16:15.01 | timur | which mirror did you use? |
| 16:15.05 | Farhadix | maurizio, thanks :D |
| 16:15.10 | geek_ | the debian.org one |
| 16:15.20 | timur | hm |
| 16:15.24 | geek_ | no, if another one is faster don't tell me, i'm frustrated as is ;p |
| 16:15.32 | timur | ok, i'll be quiet |
| 16:15.33 | Asymmetry | After mucking about with mdadm for some time, I have a question... Am I not supposed to partition a software RAID array? o.O |
| 16:15.33 | geek_ | i'll use apt-spy in the morning ;p |
| 16:15.54 | abrotman | !ig |
| 16:15.54 | dpkg | I heard "ig" is Installation Guide...see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual for Etch 4.0r4 stable, or http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/installmanual for now oldstable Sarge (3.1). Lenny is Testing! |
| 16:15.55 | torrr | I see in release critical bugs that etch have 695 of these bugs |
| 16:16.01 | geek_ | (and i'll be keeping install CD one in my repository of installer stuff ;p) |
| 16:16.11 | torrr | while lenny have only 266 of these bugs |
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| 16:16.37 | torrr | doesn't it mean that lenny now is less buggy then etch, and hence more stable? |
| 16:17.02 | timur | yea, good call |
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| 16:18.46 | Haris | Hello people |
| 16:18.47 | Haris | !bts |
| 16:18.47 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. Useful for unstable and testing: aptitude install apt-listbugs <apt-listchanges> . |
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| 16:20.54 | Haris | how do I open bug # 477174 when I'm not on debian? |
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| 16:21.53 | petemc | Haris: open? |
| 16:21.56 | timur | ok, well, cpufreq table is not in if i use the stock deb image either. was it thrown out in 2.6.26? anyone know? |
| 16:21.57 | petemc | http://bugs.debian.org/477174 |
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| 16:23.31 | Haris | petemc: Thankyou |
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| 16:28.09 | paxcoder | ok guys, seriously. I think Gmail may have changed something concerning login, because I can't connect to neither Gmail Notify or Pidgin IM. Can anyone plz check if he can do those things with his account? |
| 16:28.27 | azeem | pidgin is gtalk, no? |
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| 16:28.48 | blubberdiblub | no |
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| 16:29.03 | paxcoder | pidgin is connecting to XMPP I guess. |
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| 16:29.40 | timur | i just logged in through piding fine... |
| 16:29.53 | paxcoder | I just saw there's a GTalk option in Pidgin |
| 16:30.15 | paxcoder | Why is there GTalk along XMPP, isn't it the same protocol? |
| 16:30.45 | paxcoder | nop. ppl |
| 16:30.51 | paxcoder | I appologize |
| 16:31.11 | paxcoder | I forgot i changed my pass |
| 16:31.24 | paxcoder | Although I did it because of the Gmail Notify. That thing still doesn't work. |
| 16:31.38 | nivanson | paxcoder: it's same protocol but simplifies login as you dont have to specificy talk.google.com and some more settings. |
| 16:31.59 | nivanson | paxcoder: also, iirc it will handle mail notifications |
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| 16:32.20 | paxcoder | nivason: I see. But I don't remember needing to set that up in the first place. |
| 16:32.39 | paxcoder | nivanson: iirc? |
| 16:32.47 | paxcoder | tel me more :-) |
| 16:33.11 | nivanson | paxcoder: if i recall/remember correctly |
| 16:33.17 | timur | there is a pidgin plugin to do the gmail polling too, i think |
| 16:33.36 | paxcoder | dpkg iirc |
| 16:34.15 | prolix | aptitude: wtf iirc |
| 16:34.16 | aptitude | no binary found. |
| 16:34.22 | _Jack_Sparrow_ | I am trying to get my TV-out working. I have edited my xorg.conf to include the options mentioned in the nvidia readme but I still don't have it working :-( |
| 16:34.32 | paxcoder | nivasion, timur: so do I need a plugin, or should I just use GTalk instead of XMPP option? |
| 16:34.42 | _Jack_Sparrow_ | Any help on how can I diagnose the problem? |
| 16:34.50 | paxcoder | _Jack_Sparrow_: did you enable it in BIOS? |
| 16:35.11 | nivanson | paxcoder: use GTalk in list of protocol |
| 16:35.38 | paxcoder | nivanson: are you sure I don't need a plugin? And... does that change something? |
| 16:35.38 | nivanson | paxcoder: and find out yourself if the "new email?"-polling is working out of the box or if you need a plugin |
| 16:36.11 | _Jack_Sparrow_ | paxcoder: O_o Never heard of that one before... Do I have to? Nothing is mentioned in /usr/share/doc/NVIDIA_GLX-1.0/README.txt |
| 16:36.14 | timur | hehe, what nivanson said |
| 16:36.24 | timur | and yea, totally do apt-get install iirc |
| 16:36.27 | timur | ;) |
| 16:36.53 | timur | (iirc == if i recall correctly...) |
| 16:37.06 | paxcoder | timur: just you wait :-) |
| 16:38.05 | paxcoder | _Jack_Sparrow_: Actually, I'm not sure. I had to enable it in BIOS, but I have an integrated Radeon, so maybe (probably?) you don't need to do that. |
| 16:40.05 | _Jack_Sparrow_ | I'll try using scart instead of composite... |
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| 16:40.26 | r4ndr4d4s | hi all |
| 16:40.47 | paxcoder | _Jack_Sparrow_: I don't think that'll help. Try asking Ubuntu guys, they're a bit more multimedially oriented, they probably know a GUI that'll switch for you :-) |
| 16:40.57 | timur | brrr |
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| 16:41.26 | timur | and you do need to use the plugin in pidgin |
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| 16:41.31 | nergoza | Hi |
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| 16:41.56 | paxcoder | timur: ah, well. At least it has one. |
| 16:41.58 | nergoza | there is another remote server like VNC but only better for linux ? |
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| 16:42.32 | Kovensky | nergoza: VNC-like, no |
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| 16:42.44 | nergoza | not like vnc but any remote server |
| 16:42.49 | nergoza | that should be better |
| 16:42.50 | Kovensky | the better stuff all create new sessions instead of attaching to an existing one |
| 16:42.54 | Kovensky | XDMCP and SSH |
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| 16:43.01 | Kovensky | but I don't know how to XDMCP =p |
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| 16:43.05 | nergoza | i want desktop control Kovensky |
| 16:43.39 | Kovensky | nergoza: xdmcp creates a new graphical session |
| 16:43.41 | paxcoder | afk |
| 16:43.54 | nergoza | but how is the pefrormance ? |
| 16:43.55 | Kovensky | if you want to control an already open desktop, then you're stuck with VNC |
| 16:44.04 | Kovensky | I don't know, I never used it; I don't know how to |
| 16:44.22 | Kovensky | but it is said that it is better |
| 16:44.34 | nergoza | ok i will read about it |
| 16:44.36 | nergoza | thanks |
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| 16:45.03 | torrr | how can i see rc bugs only for i386? |
| 16:46.31 | timur | paxcoder, oh, wait, ok, so new pidgin integrate email notification stuff into your account settings |
| 16:46.34 | timur | which makes sense |
| 16:46.42 | timur | don't know if it works though |
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| 16:46.48 | timur | gonna have to send myself an email :) |
| 16:47.00 | paxcoder | hehe |
| 16:47.24 | timur | http://plugins.guifications.org/trac/ticket/328 -- bug filed about it |
| 16:47.35 | nergoza | Kovensky i dont find any place to download it |
| 16:47.55 | Kovensky | nergoza: it is part of gdm/kdm |
| 16:48.33 | Kovensky | Is there any way I can have multiple nvidia-glx versions installed? |
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| 16:48.56 | paxcoder | timur: don't confuse me. Is it a plugin or not? |
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| 16:49.02 | MIPC4 | hi dudes |
| 16:49.10 | MIPC4 | any one knows how can i know how many pages are linked to mi website? |
| 16:49.19 | timur | paxcoder, not anymore |
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| 16:49.26 | timur | so, setup your gmail account |
| 16:49.26 | paxcoder | timur: oh. |
| 16:49.31 | paxcoder | timur: will do. thx |
| 16:49.38 | timur | then there is an option to enable email notifications |
| 16:49.46 | timur | so far it has not told me i got an email though |
| 16:49.48 | timur | so it may be broken |
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| 16:51.41 | paxcoder | timur: is it ok to accept certificate? |
| 16:51.48 | paxcoder | *I guess that's the e-mail thing. |
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| 16:52.28 | timur | br where? |
| 16:52.40 | paxcoder | !br |
| 16:52.40 | dpkg | Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
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| 16:53.13 | paxcoder | timur: SSL certificate, Pidgin poped out the window. |
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| 16:53.37 | timur | oh, yes |
| 16:54.21 | paxcoder | timur: thx again for the tip |
| 16:54.32 | timur | no problem |
| 16:54.41 | timur | let me know if you actually get it to work :) |
| 16:55.03 | paxcoder | timur: send me an email :-P |
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| 16:55.33 | sebas891 | hey folks! I get an error when doing aptitude update on etch "GPG error: http://security.debian.org etch/updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG A70DAF536070D3A1... " |
| 16:55.41 | paxcoder | remembers a movie: "My name is my passport" |
| 16:55.46 | timur | paxcoder, ok, one sec |
| 16:55.50 | abrotman | sebas891: install debian-archive-keyring |
| 16:56.03 | sebas891 | I re-installed debian-archive-keyring no luck... |
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| 16:58.24 | timur | paxcoder, sent |
| 16:58.38 | paxcoder | timur: ok. waiting... |
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| 16:58.58 | timur | i think that notifying deal may be broken :( |
| 16:59.27 | paxcoder | timur: shows on the site, we'll see in few minutes |
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| 17:02.03 | timur | ooh finally showed that i have one |
| 17:02.06 | timur | took forever |
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| 17:03.51 | J-roen | Hi, I try to mount a remote connection with the following command: sshfs -o 'ssh -i /path/to/local/key' user@host: /mnt/test |
| 17:03.59 | J-roen | I only get the message "remote host has disconnected". What is going wrong? |
| 17:04.27 | paxcoder | timur: so it worked? I'm still waiting on mine :-) |
| 17:05.27 | schaeubleroller | i have a (k)ubuntu system with a weird problem (the ubuntu folks don't know about it) - although /tmp does not show as a tmpfs in mount's output, it seems to have infinite space. i have created zero-filled files to fill the disk (wipe free space), df says 0 blocks free, i can still create more files - whats going on? fs is ext3 on a crypted partition |
| 17:05.41 | timur | paxcoder, it did, just took forever |
| 17:06.21 | schaeubleroller | is there an easy and fast way to wipe free space (only free space...)? |
| 17:06.34 | wols_ | schaeubleroller: we cannot help you, we only support debian. ask #ubuntu not us |
| 17:07.41 | schaeubleroller | wols_: do you know what could cause this behavior on debian? |
| 17:07.57 | wols_ | schaeubleroller: no. please ask in #ubuntu |
| 17:08.07 | schaeubleroller | ok, thanks |
| 17:08.49 | paxcoder | Hey, anyone knows when we could expecting new GNOME? I have some things I want to undelete :-( |
| 17:09.04 | paxcoder | *that is: for testing. |
| 17:09.12 | abrotman | J-roen: can you ssh normally ? |
| 17:09.15 | wols_ | paxcoder: long time. lenny won't get a new version |
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| 17:09.27 | abrotman | paxcoder: new gnome where? |
| 17:09.38 | wols_ | abrotman: 2.24 |
| 17:09.40 | paxcoder | abrotman: Gnome 2.24 |
| 17:09.47 | abrotman | yes .. no crap .. WHERE in debian ? |
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| 17:10.02 | paxcoder | abrotman: Apparently nowhere |
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| 17:10.12 | abrotman | etch? lenny? sid? bob? |
| 17:10.33 | paxcoder | abrotman: I don't know. I'm using lenny I guess. |
| 17:10.33 | sebas891 | abrotman: any other hint ? because the reinstall debian-archive-keyring did not make it. :( |
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| 17:10.42 | J-roen | abrotman: Yes, that works fine. I see now that I posted a wrong command. It should be: sshfs -o ssh_command='ssh -i /path/to/local/key' user@host: /mnt/test . But that doesn't work also. |
| 17:10.56 | abrotman | J-roen: try with a -v maybe ? |
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| 17:11.10 | abrotman | !apt-key 6070D3A1 |
| 17:11.10 | dpkg | gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 6070D3A1 ; gpg --export 6070D3A1 | sudo apt-key add - |
| 17:11.15 | abrotman | paxcoder: won't happen |
| 17:11.18 | abrotman | ever |
| 17:11.26 | paxcoder | abrotman: So I've heard |
| 17:11.48 | qq- | virtualbox complains >>> VBox status code: -1912 (VERR_VM_DRIVER_VERSION_MISMATCH) tested on 2.6.26-1-686 (and -bigmem) |
| 17:11.52 | paxcoder | gtg. |
| 17:12.03 | ktk8 | Trying to figure this out here... I thought vlc could do it but apparently not. I want to have a server set up for my music so that my husband can play Dylan in his office, I can listen to Evanescence in mine and our daughter can get Greenday in her room. Any ideas? |
| 17:12.20 | lem0n | lol |
| 17:12.37 | lem0n | well you could try setting up some shared fileserver, maybe use samba to integrate with windows |
| 17:12.43 | lem0n | if its linux you could maybe use NFS |
| 17:12.52 | ktk8 | Its' Deb unstable... |
| 17:12.55 | Kovensky | better to use NFS |
| 17:13.00 | J-roen | abrotman: I tried that already, but it says nothing more :(. |
| 17:13.04 | Kovensky | only use SMB if you really need to use windows |
| 17:13.08 | lem0n | yeah |
| 17:13.32 | lem0n | if you all have windows and the fileserver is debian, you could use samba filesharing, put them all on the same network, and maybe store music in all of your home directories |
| 17:13.38 | lem0n | and it should be able to "map" it over the network |
| 17:13.47 | lem0n | so itunes or winamp or whatever will play it from the path over the network |
| 17:14.02 | abrotman | J-roen: if you try it with out the --ssh-command .. and give a password? |
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| 17:14.22 | ktk8 | Feh, was hoping there would be a more elegant solution.. Oh well, NFS and SAMBA it is. /sigh/ Kk, thanks all. lem0n: Yep, got it. ok, thanks everyone. See you. |
| 17:14.29 | lem0n | ktk8: may i ask why you all dont store your music on your own pcs? |
| 17:14.34 | lem0n | be much simpler that way :P |
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| 17:15.33 | wols_ | ktk8: that, over the internet is the worst thing you can imagine |
| 17:15.41 | ktk8 | Err.. really because I don't want to have to syncronize everyone's music,.. and in reality because it's just to see if I can. :-) |
| 17:15.42 | wols_ | either samba nor nfs work well over the internet |
| 17:15.51 | aliases123 | sshfs |
| 17:15.59 | ktk8 | Nana, not over the 'Net... |
| 17:16.13 | ktk8 | That'd be silly and a security hole the size of a mac truck. |
| 17:16.14 | lem0n | its not over internet, wols_ |
| 17:16.23 | lem0n | over LAN lol |
| 17:16.29 | aliases123 | just use sshfs if its netted |
| 17:16.35 | lem0n | not all clients are linux |
| 17:16.49 | aliases123 | lem0n: and ? |
| 17:16.49 | aliases123 | nfs... |
| 17:16.51 | lem0n | on windows? |
| 17:16.57 | ktk8 | thats a good idea, sshfs.. Hrm.. and I can do sshfs with putty afaik. |
| 17:17.01 | lem0n | samba seems a bit easier. |
| 17:17.10 | aliases123 | ktk8: and winscp |
| 17:17.15 | lem0n | more point and click, for the windows users |
| 17:17.19 | ktk8 | 1 Mac, 2 Deb, 1 Ubuntu and 1 Windows |
| 17:17.25 | lem0n | ah |
| 17:17.34 | aliases123 | this is a lan ? |
| 17:17.35 | mimcpher | There's a nice piece of commercial software for windows called sftp drive |
| 17:17.38 | ktk8 | Deb is server. |
| 17:17.43 | ktk8 | aliases123: Yep. |
| 17:17.58 | aliases123 | so... run nfs samba / what ever when it fits. |
| 17:18.01 | mimcpher | Though really, ssh based filesystems are considerably slower than samba/nfs alternatives |
| 17:18.17 | aliases123 | mimcpher: not really. |
| 17:18.36 | lem0n | can linux hosts be samba CLIENTS? |
| 17:18.39 | lem0n | never really looked into it |
| 17:18.43 | mimcpher | Yes lem0n |
| 17:18.43 | abrotman | yes |
| 17:18.51 | lem0n | i dont see why not just use that, then |
| 17:18.54 | ktk8 | mimcphier: Will check out sftp also. Really, how fast does the throughput need to be? It's MAX a few megs a minute to stream a FLAC. |
| 17:19.01 | lem0n | its a pretty simple setup |
| 17:19.04 | lem0n | and its easy to use |
| 17:19.13 | lem0n | maybe not the best compared to NFS or whatever... but i think it would be the easiest |
| 17:19.19 | aliases123 | also look at mt-daapd for streaming audio |
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| 17:19.24 | lem0n | especially considering at least one of them will be windows |
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| 17:19.53 | Kovensky | lem0n: but will you be using kde or gnome? |
| 17:20.00 | Kovensky | kde will copy stuff to your drive before playing |
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| 17:20.03 | Kovensky | at least kde3 will |
| 17:20.06 | ktk8 | I think that's what I'll end up with. Use Prokyon as the database and NFS/SMB. |
| 17:20.13 | mimcpher | ktk8, for casual usage, it'll probably be okay. I use it all the time, but don't expect to stream HD video over it :P |
| 17:20.15 | lem0n | oh, its ktk8 that will be doing it |
| 17:20.19 | lem0n | im not sure what they use |
| 17:20.35 | Kovensky | lem0n: heh, my bad |
| 17:20.39 | lem0n | :) |
| 17:20.41 | aliases123 | fun...... |
| 17:20.42 | ktk8 | mimcpher: Got it, will check. |
| 17:21.24 | Goldenphoenix | hello I'm using xen. Since the last reboot there is no possibiity to start virtual machines, the Error message: "Error: Device 1 (vif) could not be connected. Hotplug scripts not working" |
| 17:21.24 | Goldenphoenix | sorry for my poor english, I'm no native speaker :-( |
| 17:21.49 | Goldenphoenix | the syslog is in http://paste.debian.net/18079/ |
| 17:21.53 | ktk8 | Hrm, I wonder, LDAP can store any type of data...... |
| 17:22.00 | ktk8 | drifts off to ponder something... |
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| 17:22.04 | lem0n | lol |
| 17:22.04 | ktk8 | Thanks all. |
| 17:22.08 | lem0n | np. |
| 17:22.11 | ktk8 | See you. |
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| 17:22.30 | aliases123 | wols_: some one asked a real q -- see Goldenphoenix |
| 17:22.37 | mimcpher | LDAP can store anything you want, ktk8. |
| 17:22.46 | wols_ | aliases123: and I care why? |
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| 17:23.11 | aliases123 | cuz your mad technical and supporty |
| 17:23.22 | wols_ | aliases123: go away |
| 17:23.29 | aliases123 | ok.... |
| 17:23.31 | enouf | run even |
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| 17:24.14 | Goldenphoenix | I know it's a crossposting, (from #debian.de) but there is no help anymore |
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| 17:25.46 | J-roen | abrotman: I already figured it out: it is possible to pass the identity file with -oidentityfile=/path |
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| 17:26.13 | abrotman | so it works or fails? |
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| 17:26.29 | vindex_ | hi, i have APE+CUE files, how do I extract this to individual tracks under debian ? |
| 17:27.00 | xci | hey guys, how can I make my debian to connect to wlan immediately when it starts up? |
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| 17:28.09 | J-roen | abrotman: It works :). Now I have to figure out how to do a su right after connection. |
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| 17:29.18 | aliases123 | xci: use /etc/network/interfaces like you do for a wired connection. |
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| 17:30.44 | edugonch | Hello, how can I make an install cd or dvd from an existen debian install, I have a sistem, with modification and some packages that aren't in a default debian installation, and I have to port this system to an other computer, is there a way to make a install dvd of the complete system? thanks |
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| 17:31.04 | wols_ | edugonch: yes, a backup it's called |
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| 17:31.25 | edugonch | simple just a backup |
| 17:31.49 | edugonch | thanks |
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| 17:35.20 | aliases123 | wols_: how safe is it to just use tar for backups ? (full system backup obviously not from the system / os itself0 |
| 17:35.39 | xci | aliases123: I already have configured that file, and it looks like this http://paste.debian.net/18083/ |
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| 17:35.58 | xci | it even worked for a while, but does not work anymore |
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| 17:36.28 | aliases123 | xci: mmm interesting. does wireless work ? |
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| 17:36.55 | abrotman | xci: what kind of wifi device? |
| 17:37.01 | xci | aliases123: works very well |
| 17:37.12 | abrotman | xci: where's your auto wlan0 line ? |
| 17:37.13 | xci | abrotman: intel 3945 |
| 17:37.21 | flower | if you want to backup your root file system, do you name your root system in the command like this?: / |
| 17:37.25 | xci | abrotman: ah |
| 17:37.37 | abrotman | bloat_detective: working on emacs? :) |
| 17:37.50 | bloat_detective | abrotman: worse |
| 17:37.51 | bloat_detective | http://www.art.net/~hopkins/Don/unix-haters/tirix/embarrassing-memo.html |
| 17:37.57 | flower | so just a slash in the command of rsync |
| 17:37.59 | flower | ? |
| 17:38.02 | xci | hmm, I'll try if it would work now |
| 17:38.06 | xci | abrotman: thanks :) |
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| 17:38.10 | aliases123 | flower: you don't want /proc do you ? |
| 17:38.16 | abrotman | bloat_detective: seems a bit old |
| 17:38.29 | abrotman | bloat_detective: and .. IRIX? |
| 17:38.30 | flower | aliases123: what is /proc? |
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| 17:39.04 | bada | hi! is there is any way to emulate absent umask option for ext3 filesystem? |
| 17:39.26 | bloat_detective | it's a shame how history just keeps repeating itself |
| 17:39.44 | abrotman | hehe |
| 17:39.45 | irix | abrotman: what? :) |
| 17:40.40 | aliases123 | priceless |
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| 17:42.36 | flower | does someone want to help me with backupping my root filesystem using rsync? Just need the right command |
| 17:43.01 | flower | here is a start: rsync -avh / /media/sda1/ |
| 17:43.04 | wols_ | flower: it's man rsync. awesome command |
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| 17:47.00 | flower | how do I unmount an external drive? I mounted it unther a folder in /mnt |
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| 17:47.25 | {Matteo} | I'm trying to remove snd_hda_intel and put it back to fix my left channel corrpution but I get FATAL: Module snd_hda_intel is in use. when I do modprobe -r snd-hda-intel && modprobe snd-hda-intel |
| 17:47.36 | {Matteo} | any way to force this? |
| 17:48.06 | Goldenphoenix | flower: umount /mnt |
| 17:48.55 | blue | im getting: "E: Build-dependencies for php5 could not be satisfied.", when trying to compile php5 with "apt-get build-dep php5" on lenny. Any ideas what could be wrong? |
| 17:49.05 | Goldenphoenix | anybody knows something to the xen question above? |
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| 17:49.45 | abrotman | there's a #debian-xen on oftc IIRC |
| 17:49.53 | flower | Goldenphoenix: bash: unmount: command not found |
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| 17:50.03 | abrotman | flower: umount .. not unmount |
| 17:50.05 | Goldenphoenix | flower: sorry umount |
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| 17:52.12 | sulon | what font does mplayer use by default for OSD and where is it? |
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| 17:54.38 | flower | Goldenphoenix: mhh strange: |
| 17:54.39 | flower | pmount /dev/sda1 |
| 17:54.41 | flower | Error: device /dev/sda1 is already mounted to / |
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| 17:55.31 | flower | I've backupped my filesystem a few weeks ago with dd .... I thought I mounted it unther /mnt/exhddfile |
| 17:55.54 | wols_ | flower: "mount" |
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| 17:56.25 | Goldenphoenix | wols_: man pmount |
| 17:56.36 | Goldenphoenix | there is such a program |
| 17:56.37 | Farhadix | Hi guys, I wanna a package that it's one of gnome's dependencies. how I can upgrade this from source, If install it in /usr/local how force system to use it? |
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| 17:56.53 | flower | wols: http://pastebin.com/m71c96d18 |
| 17:56.55 | chuckf | I'm having a problem with apt. I have a 'stuck' package and cannot get the error to go away. Install/Remove works find but this package keeps throwing errors. Detailed info is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/51335/ |
| 17:56.55 | wols_ | Goldenphoenix: I know that. but I don't care. "mount" |
| 17:56.58 | abrotman | !equivs |
| 17:56.58 | dpkg | it has been said that equivs is a package that enables you to create dummy packages that tell apt you really have installed (through some other means) the package. apt-get install equivs, and read /usr/share/doc/equivs/*, or see also <usrlocal> |
| 17:57.13 | Goldenphoenix | wols_: :-) |
| 17:57.38 | wols_ | flower: and "fdisk -l" to see what you can mount if you want to |
| 17:57.53 | wols_ | abrotman: does ubuntu have equivs? |
| 17:58.09 | abrotman | that was for Farhadix |
| 17:58.13 | wols_ | oh |
| 17:58.13 | Farhadix | sorry, i wanna upgrade a package that is one of gnome's dependencies. |
| 17:58.18 | wols_ | chuckf: ask #ubuntu, not us |
| 17:59.16 | chuckf | wols_, thought it was a general apt question, and no one in #ubuntu has answered |
| 17:59.39 | wols_ | chuckf: there is no geenral apt channel. and it's not a debian problem. ask ubuntu people |
| 17:59.46 | abrotman | chuckf: they gave your apt and your broken packag e.. ask them |
| 18:00.55 | chuckf | thank for the help |
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| 18:01.49 | octox2 | for battery backups, does linux have drivers for nexxtech ? |
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| 18:02.33 | wols_ | whatever nexxtech is? |
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| 18:04.39 | octox2 | nexxtech is a brand of UPS |
| 18:05.36 | abrotman | octox2: i'd imagine google has a very quick answer |
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| 18:07.28 | iAmk00l | hi |
| 18:07.33 | iAmk00l | debian linux is basically shit |
| 18:07.46 | abrotman | iAmk00l: is that all you wanted to tell us? |
| 18:07.51 | wols_ | iAmk00l: do you have a debian support question? |
| 18:07.55 | iAmk00l | yes |
| 18:07.56 | iAmk00l | well |
| 18:07.57 | Goldenphoenix | thanks for this argument iAml00l |
| 18:08.00 | abrotman | have a good day! |
| 18:08.01 | unop | that coming from someone who is called iAmk00l |
| 18:08.18 | iAmk00l | well i wanted to debate the merits of the different chracters and karts in mariokart wii |
| 18:08.19 | iAmk00l | also |
| 18:08.20 | pistache | iAmK00l > Thanks for being constructive |
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| 18:08.24 | abrotman | !tell iAmk00l about ot |
| 18:08.53 | myeggo | iamkool is an amateur sophist |
| 18:09.13 | iAmk00l | !tell abrotman about ot |
| 18:09.35 | iAmk00l | !tell abrotman about ot |
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| 18:09.51 | iAmk00l | hmm |
| 18:09.54 | iAmk00l | i got flooded |
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| 18:10.06 | wols_ | abrotman:pretty please |
| 18:10.08 | Goldenphoenix | awesome |
| 18:10.34 | iAmk00l | !tell abrotman about cocksucking |
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| 18:11.11 | pistache | Man down ;) |
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| 18:11.44 | screamingbytes | subsume: :) lol still there? |
| 18:11.56 | subsume | screamingbytes: yeppers. |
| 18:11.57 | Goldenphoenix | here are really good bots :-) |
| 18:11.59 | screamingbytes | subsume: if so did you have a question for me? |
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| 18:12.23 | subsume | screamingbytes: well I'm not getting my root mail to my new address so.. I'm wondering where I went wrong I guess |
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| 18:12.37 | Casperin | I'm trying to install Ubuntu on a pen drive and I'm following this manual, but I got stuck on the fdisk part. I typed in +750M for the size (as the manual dictated), but then it asks for the second cylinder.. |
| 18:12.55 | screamingbytes | subsume: root mail to your user accounts mail? |
| 18:13.06 | screamingbytes | subsume: or where? |
| 18:13.16 | wols_ | Casperin: #ubuntu |
| 18:13.19 | Goldenphoenix | Casperin: please ask in #ubuntu |
| 18:13.43 | Casperin | I did.. isn't fdisk your department too? :P |
| 18:13.54 | subsume | screamingbytes: root mail from things like CRON, etc. |
| 18:13.56 | wols_ | ubuntu is not our department. please stop |
| 18:14.11 | Casperin | hehe sorry. :) I'll ask again |
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| 18:16.10 | blubberdiblub | subsume, check /etc/aliases that it says "root: yournewuser" instead of "root: yourolduser" |
| 18:16.36 | J-roen | Hi. I want to login in as user www-data when mounting a remote directory. How can I do this? |
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| 18:16.56 | subsume | blubberdiblub: I want it sent to another domain, not another user. |
| 18:17.27 | Goldenphoenix | J-roen: su www-data |
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| 18:17.56 | blubberdiblub | subsume, well, i think "root: user@domain" syntax is allowed in the alias file, too, but i'm not sure |
| 18:18.07 | subsume | blubberdiblub: you'd think, but i haven't gotten any system mails |
| 18:18.11 | screamingbytes | subsume: what mail server are you using? exim4, postfix, sendmail, ... |
| 18:18.14 | subsume | also, i checked logs and its still being sent to my old domain |
| 18:18.16 | subsume | postfix |
| 18:18.20 | muerr | how do i determine which apt source a package is from? |
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| 18:18.25 | subsume | yes, I ran newaliases. |
| 18:18.35 | wols_ | muerr: apt-cache policy <package> |
| 18:18.39 | muerr | thx |
| 18:18.59 | screamingbytes | subsume: is your mail setup to relay? |
| 18:19.14 | screamingbytes | subsume: for other domains? |
| 18:19.15 | J-roen | Goldenphoenix: How do I mount the folder then? My mount command is: sshfs -oidentityfile=/path/to/file user@host:/var/www /var/www |
| 18:19.24 | subsume | screamingbytes: yes, because the other domain isn't on my server either. its all handled through gmail. |
| 18:19.53 | screamingbytes | subsume: ok, so other than things like cron jobs, all mail is working right |
| 18:19.56 | subsume | I have a mail2.domainbar.com for mailing lists. |
| 18:20.13 | subsume | screamingbytes: oh yeah. just dunno why this root mail is going to root@domainbar.com |
| 18:20.20 | screamingbytes | subsume: like you can send manual mail from the machine to the address you want |
| 18:20.24 | muerr | Hm. I'm working with a Java6 package on some Etch boxes. On other systems, it installed from backports, version 6-07-3~bpo40+1 0. On this system, it shows 6-00-2 installed from /var/lib/dpkg/status, and won't install the newer version from backports. |
| 18:20.34 | subsume | screamingbytes: let me verify. |
| 18:20.45 | subsume | screamingbytes: but i must say that mail gets sent because i have python scripts that send mail. website stuff. |
| 18:21.07 | subsume | and i see my mail.log being filled when i try to mail root ... it just goes to root@domainbar.com |
| 18:21.13 | wols_ | muerr: it means it's installed and you removed the repo it was from from your sources.list |
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| 18:21.28 | wols_ | policy only shows where it's from when that repo is still in sources.list |
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| 18:21.51 | muerr | Well, *I* didn't remove it, someone else built these boxes :). Anyway, that doesn't make sense, as these systems are managed by puppet for java installation. |
| 18:22.19 | Goldenphoenix | J-roen: then execute it as www-data |
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| 18:23.07 | Goldenphoenix | after su USER you get a shell as USER |
| 18:23.48 | subsume | Can I just make an alias root@domainbar.com: root@domainfoo.com ? |
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| 18:24.38 | subsume | nope. guess not. |
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| 18:26.28 | muerr | wow. it was installed last year. okay, time for emails to be sent. thanks wols for the pointer on apt-cache.. |
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| 18:26.41 | pbn | Hello, I need to do automatically modprobe via686a force_addr=0x6000 .... How do I configure that in /etc/modules ? |
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| 18:27.48 | Goldenphoenix | pbn man modprobe.conf? |
| 18:28.13 | pbn | Goldenphoenix: hmmm yes... taht's in modprobe.conf and not in /etc/modules... now I remember ... thank you :) |
| 18:29.01 | J-roen | Goldenphoenix: You mean this? sshfs -oidentityfile=/path/to/file www-data@host:/var/www /var/www |
| 18:29.06 | blubberdiblub | subsume, note that cron usually mails as user cron, not root, and cron should be aliases to root in the mailaliases (which then gets aliased to the real account) |
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| 18:29.21 | subsume | blubberdiblub: well yeah but i want general root mails too |
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| 18:29.53 | screamingbytes | subsume: this page seems to have your answer with examples to the configs, http://groups.google.com/group/kulua-l/browse_thread/thread/59444378e0a8e8a7 |
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| 18:30.12 | screamingbytes | local and remote mail is delivered, multiple domains etc... |
| 18:30.14 | Goldenphoenix | J-roen, I don't exactly know what you plan to do, but could be |
| 18:30.50 | J-roen | Goldenphoenix: I'd like to access the files as user www-data on the remote machine. |
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| 18:31.20 | Goldenphoenix | then this is the right command |
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| 18:31.42 | J-roen | Goldenphoenix: Okay. I can't login as www-data. The server refuses the key, although I put it in /var/www/.ssh/authorized_keys |
| 18:32.18 | Goldenphoenix | try to ssh www-data@remoteMachine |
| 18:32.25 | dudeman | oh boy |
| 18:32.40 | subsume | screamingbytes: but I don't want to forward mail from one to another, I simply want to know why domainbar.com is being selected as root's email |
| 18:32.48 | dudeman | Goldenphoenix, you have remotemachine.com? |
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| 18:33.17 | Goldenphoenix | dudeman, no? why? |
| 18:33.17 | J-roen | Goldenphoenix: ssh www-data@remoteMachine also refuses the key. |
| 18:34.01 | ricosecada | I can't remember, how is it one can see what package a specific program is a "member" of? If for example I would like to install "dig" and need to figure out that its part of the dnsutils package. |
| 18:34.24 | abrotman | !tell ricosecada about search |
| 18:34.42 | dudeman | oh |
| 18:34.44 | dudeman | nm. |
| 18:35.06 | blubberdiblub | subsume, and restarting postfix didn't help, either? |
| 18:35.17 | subsume | blubberdiblub: after which step? newaliases change? |
| 18:35.30 | subsume | hmm |
| 18:35.31 | blubberdiblub | try it now |
| 18:35.31 | J-roen | Goldenphoenix: It doesn't refuse the key directly. First it asks for the password. |
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| 18:35.40 | Larcen_ | hi all |
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| 18:35.56 | Pablo | hey i have a question |
| 18:36.22 | Goldenphoenix | J-roen, then you didn't install the key rightly, try ssh-copy-id |
| 18:36.22 | ricosecada | abrotman, that wasn't what I meant |
| 18:36.27 | abrotman | yes it was |
| 18:36.32 | ricosecada | abrotman, no |
| 18:36.34 | abrotman | yes |
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| 18:36.43 | ricosecada | You can't locate dig like that |
| 18:36.49 | abrotman | read the whole thing |
| 18:36.52 | Goldenphoenix | Pablo, hi, then ask... |
| 18:37.04 | subsume | blubberdiblub: nope. |
| 18:37.07 | Pablo | my system. is laking off too much. and i just did an etch upgrade to lenny. and the packages. are broken. can someone help me |
| 18:37.17 | Pablo | it lacks on the Configurations. |
| 18:37.19 | subsume | blubberdiblub: postfix thinks my server is domainbar.com and I'm not really sure why. |
| 18:37.21 | ricosecada | abrotman, if it is already installed, yes.. but thats not the cas |
| 18:37.25 | ricosecada | case |
| 18:37.34 | J-roen | Goldenphoenix: I installed it now on another account, but that works. Is it possible to directly log in as www-data anyway? |
| 18:37.42 | screamingbytes | subsume: did you set myhostname or mydomain in main.cf |
| 18:37.43 | abrotman | ricosecada: read the whole thing .. |
| 18:37.47 | Pablo | !etch + lenny |
| 18:37.51 | pipeline | blubberdiblub: I think you're talking about the origin, not the actual end destination. |
| 18:38.01 | pipeline | buntfalke: Just set $myorigin correctly in main.cf and you're done. |
| 18:38.20 | subsume | incidentally I do have mail2.domainbar.com which I need for some mailing lists myhostname = mail2.domainbar.com |
| 18:38.24 | abrotman | Pablo: paste your sources.list in a pastebin |
| 18:38.29 | ricosecada | abrotman, if you do a dpkg -S dig, and dnsutils isn't installed, that will give you nothing |
| 18:38.30 | Pablo | abrotman i do not have X |
| 18:38.36 | subsume | screamingbytes: ^ |
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| 18:38.40 | abrotman | ricosecada: you STILL didn't read the whole thing |
| 18:38.44 | abrotman | Pablo: so? |
| 18:38.44 | Pablo | abrotman can i pasted them on. flood? |
| 18:38.49 | abrotman | in #flood |
| 18:38.53 | Pablo | yeah |
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| 18:39.04 | blubberdiblub | subsume, hmm, you might try to grep all postfix-related configfiles for "domainbar.com" ... it would have to show up somewhere, i guess |
| 18:39.10 | screamingbytes | subsume: try only setting mydomain and commenting myhostname, it will resolve either way, but react differently |
| 18:39.12 | pipeline | blubberdiblub: /usr/share/postfix/main.cf.dist has a lot more comments and makes postfix configuration a hell of a lot easier to understand |
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| 18:39.34 | Goldenphoenix | J-roen, what is the login shell of www-data? |
| 18:39.37 | subsume | screamingbytes: but I do need postfix to work on mail2.domainbar.com because i have mailing lists which use my local server (everything else is MX records to google) |
| 18:39.56 | blubberdiblub | pipeline, you probably meant buntfalke ;) |
| 18:40.11 | buntfalke | ? |
| 18:40.28 | buntfalke | disagrees |
| 18:40.35 | subsume | screamingbytes: I did exactly as you said and postfix _still_ sends to domainbar.com |
| 18:40.37 | blubberdiblub | well, then subsume, it's not me seeking for help |
| 18:40.57 | Sebboh | Off topic: can someone recommend a domain registrar for me? Something more.. mature.. than GoDaddy. ? |
| 18:40.59 | ricosecada | abrotman, thanks.. I read the thing, but didn't follow the link, sorry |
| 18:41.03 | pipeline | buntfalke: I mixed you up with blubberdiblubbubb |
| 18:41.11 | screamingbytes | subsume: if you set myhostname to say mail2.domainbar.com it will always resolv mydomain to domainbar.com, if you set the mydomain it won't |
| 18:41.11 | J-roen | Goldenphoenix: /bin/sh |
| 18:41.12 | subsume | sebboh 1and1 is cheap. |
| 18:41.21 | pipeline | buntfalke: /usr/share/postfix/main.cf.dist is better-commented than the regular main.cf |
| 18:41.22 | abrotman | ricosecada: you still failed .. i meant apt-file |
| 18:41.26 | abrotman | !tell ricosecada about apt-file |
| 18:41.26 | subsume | screamingbytes: i sent mydomain. its still domainbar.com |
| 18:41.29 | pipeline | buntfalke: you probably want to set the $myorigin variable correctly |
| 18:41.39 | buntfalke | where? |
| 18:41.49 | pipeline | buntfalke: and read main.cf.dist carefully; I actually find the comments in that more helpful than the actual documentation |
| 18:41.49 | buntfalke | well |
| 18:41.59 | buntfalke | I have no idea what you're talking about :-) |
| 18:41.59 | Sebboh | subsume, this is for a corporate customer. Cheap isn't a factor, but reliability and customer service are. |
| 18:42.09 | pipeline | buntfalke: the official postfix.org documentation explains individual variables, but the comments in the distributed main.cf makes it clear how shit fits together |
| 18:42.19 | subsume | sebboh oh. i dunno i've never had to do anything but register them and renew them. |
| 18:42.21 | J-roen | Goldenphoenix: I changed it in /bin/bash, but that doesn't help. |
| 18:42.25 | subsume | i dunno what kind of service you require. =) |
| 18:42.27 | pipeline | buntfalke: You need to set myorigin in main.cf. That's why mail comes from weird domains. It defaults to the system's hostname domain. |
| 18:42.31 | Goldenphoenix | J-roen, then login as the other user and try su www-data |
| 18:42.39 | buntfalke | pipeline: I didn't ask a question ;-) |
| 18:42.52 | pipeline | buntfalke: I give up. I can't track threaded conversations worth a damn clearly :) |
| 18:42.57 | Sebboh | subsume, neither do I, really. :) |
| 18:42.57 | subsume | pipeline: I am the one asking. =) I sent myorigin but that's not part of the problem |
| 18:43.14 | buntfalke | ah, now everything is cleared up. |
| 18:43.17 | pipeline | Sebboh: gandi and network solutions are expensive, full-service registrars. |
| 18:43.21 | ricosecada | abrotman, nobody's perfect, thanks :-) |
| 18:43.24 | drzed | re |
| 18:43.26 | buntfalke | pipeline: s/buntfalke/subsume/ ;-) |
| 18:43.31 | Pablo | you saw it abrotman ? |
| 18:43.32 | buntfalke | is away again |
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| 18:43.38 | pipeline | Sebboh: I think gandi is slightly cheaper than netsol. They're both kinda, err, top-of-the-line. |
| 18:43.46 | J-roen | Goldenphoenix: How can I execute su right after mounting? |
| 18:43.56 | Sebboh | pipeline, ah, never heard of gandi, I'll look them up. Thanks. Yeah, nothing wrong with netsol, either. |
| 18:44.21 | abrotman | Pablo: let me klook |
| 18:44.30 | subsume | ok, what's weird is this. I set mydomain and myhostname to 'domainfoo.com' and restarted postfix. I send a mail (echo foo | mail root) and it _still_ goes to domainbar.com!! |
| 18:44.48 | abrotman | Pablo: bugs.debian.org/scrollkeeper .. i'd guess |
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| 18:44.53 | screamingbytes | subsume: right |
| 18:45.10 | Pablo | you think? |
| 18:45.26 | screamingbytes | cause root's mail is in the alias's file, u have to run postaliases or newaliases to make the db/hash or whatever |
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| 18:45.43 | Goldenphoenix | try not mounting, but only to login first, o can you login? |
| 18:45.48 | screamingbytes | subsume: sound right? |
| 18:45.50 | Goldenphoenix | j-roen |
| 18:45.51 | Pablo | saw it abrotman |
| 18:46.02 | abrotman | saw what? |
| 18:46.16 | Pablo | the bug? |
| 18:46.22 | Pablo | how do i fixed this crazy ness |
| 18:46.24 | subsume | screamingbytes: i changed that long ago root: root@domainfoo.com |
| 18:46.26 | J-roen | Goldenphoenix: Yes, I can log in with another user, then it asks for a password when I do su www-data. |
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| 18:46.39 | Goldenphoenix | and this works? |
| 18:46.51 | J-roen | Goldenphoenix: No, user www-data's password is deleted. |
| 18:47.48 | Goldenphoenix | j-roen, then it's impossible to correct authorized_keys, without the password |
| 18:48.07 | J-roen | Goldenphoenix: I can log in as root and then do su www-data. |
| 18:48.18 | Goldenphoenix | j-oen, the safe way to change authorized_keys is ssh-copy-id |
| 18:48.23 | J-roen | Goldenphoenix: But as you can understand, I cannot log in as root from the remote machine. |
| 18:48.34 | Goldenphoenix | yes, I know |
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| 18:49.10 | Goldenphoenix | j-roen, then create a temporary password for www-data and copy the ssh-id |
| 18:49.27 | J-roen | Goldenphoenix: Okay, I dit that now. |
| 18:49.52 | Goldenphoenix | j-roen, does it work? |
| 18:49.59 | dudeman | Hey there is a problem with the iceweasel lenny build |
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| 18:50.51 | dudeman | I think its a problem I'm not sure where it lies. There is a extention called Yoono! Socialize your browser. It wont' install becuae it says I'm using an unrecognized build of firefox (x86) or something |
| 18:50.52 | spychalski | is there an obscure way to find out what mirror is the fastest? |
| 18:50.57 | dudeman | spychalski, yes! |
| 18:51.00 | dudeman | !apt-spy |
| 18:51.00 | dpkg | [apt-spy] a secret! Shh! 'Mirror, mirror, on the wall... who is the fastest of them all?' Note that it will overwrite your sources.list when finished, so (1) cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.mybak (2) apt-get install apt-spy (3) apt-spy update; apt-spy -d [stable,testing,unstable] -a [Africa,Asia,Europe,North-America,Oceania,South-America] (4) fix your sources.list by adding back in any other mirrors you had been using. |
| 18:51.08 | spychalski | yeehaw :D |
| 18:51.10 | J-roen | No :(. I copied the ssh-id to authorized_keys and it is exactly the same as the authorized_keys file of the other user. |
| 18:51.15 | spychalski | thanks dude |
| 18:51.16 | dudeman | :) |
| 18:51.18 | dudeman | enjoy |
| 18:51.28 | dudeman | I gotta figure out how to get this iceweasel extention to work |
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| 18:52.15 | J-roen | Goldenphoenix: No :(. I copied the ssh-id to authorized_keys and it is exactly the same as the authorized_keys file of the other user. |
| 18:52.22 | Goldenphoenix | j-roen, you have to copy the id_rsa.pub |
| 18:52.24 | ceil420 | shiny new install of Lenny, and pure debian's last shot with me :x |
| 18:52.28 | abrotman | dudeman: you can open the xpi and see what it's looking for |
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| 18:52.35 | dudeman | abrotman, oh |
| 18:52.40 | ceil420 | unchecked everything in the installer - i just apt-get'd X/xfce |
| 18:52.42 | J-roen | Goldenphoenix: Where can I find id_rsa.pub? |
| 18:52.45 | ceil420 | shit better not crash :x |
| 18:52.49 | dudeman | abrotman, I didn't know that.. how can I open it.. actually nm, I'll google. |
| 18:52.54 | dudeman | abrotman, thanks |
| 18:52.56 | Goldenphoenix | in .ssh |
| 18:52.58 | abrotman | IIRC you've been told before .. unzip |
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| 18:53.05 | dudeman | abrotman, I have? |
| 18:53.08 | J-roen | Goldenphoenix: There is no id_rsa.pub in .ssh... |
| 18:53.10 | dudeman | scratches head |
| 18:53.20 | abrotman | dudeman: a few months ago .. not a big deal |
| 18:53.27 | dudeman | :) |
| 18:53.44 | dudeman | <-- former pothead.. sorry |
| 18:53.44 | Goldenphoenix | then what have you just copied in authorized_keys? |
| 18:53.53 | ceil420 | 'course, installing Debian this way has installed space to 1.04gb (started at about 500mb), instead of 2ish gb :) |
| 18:54.01 | dudeman | hey whats the ssh prolem here? |
| 18:54.06 | Goldenphoenix | j-roen, then what have you just copied in authorized_keys? |
| 18:54.21 | illio | A bit unsure about something here.. I have a Debian vserver with a hosting company.. I have full control of the vserver, but I'm unsure if I need to update the kernel for security reasons or if any updates on the host-server will also be used by the vserver.. uname -r gives me: 2.6.18-6-vserver-amd64 |
| 18:54.24 | J-roen | Goldenphoenix: The contents of the public key: ssh-rsa AAAA...= |
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| 18:55.43 | Goldenphoenix | and the private key is on your local machine in ~/.ssh/id_rsa? |
| 18:56.00 | wols_ | illio: you cannot update the kernel |
| 18:56.15 | wols_ | illio: and you have the latest kernel already, so why upgrade? |
| 18:56.15 | J-roen | Goldenphoenix: Well, I log in with PuTTY. That works on the other account (with the same authorized_keys content as www-data). |
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| 18:56.38 | J-roen | Goldenphoenix: I'm sorry. Now I'm confusing you. |
| 18:56.53 | J-roen | Goldenphoenix: Now I was talking about my pc. |
| 18:57.00 | illio | wols_, yes I know it's the latest. .I just wanted to know if I just had to trust the guys maintaining the main server, or I could somehow update the kernel myself (when it's needed.. not right now) |
| 18:57.07 | J-roen | Goldenphoenix: From the local server, I do: ssh -i id_rsa user@host |
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| 18:57.31 | J-roen | Goldenphoenix: Where user = www-data |
| 18:57.38 | illio | wols_, if I can't update I was thinking making a cron job that checks the uname with kernel.org and if it's not up to date -> send me an email |
| 18:57.39 | K_Dallas | Hi guys! Would I be able to install XP and use it flawlessly in etch through XEN? I tried virtualbox and even though installation was easy it kind of messed things up. Thanks (If you have better solution than XEN, I would be all ear) |
| 18:58.26 | wols_ | illio:what for? |
| 18:58.35 | ceil420 | "XP...flawlessly" |
| 18:58.37 | ceil420 | No. |
| 18:58.44 | wols_ | K_Dallas: you can't. and what went wrong with vbox? |
| 18:59.07 | illio | wols_, so that if they don't update within a short while I can contact them.. they have somewhat of a bad reputation with updating.. at least they used to until the media got at them |
| 18:59.10 | Goldenphoenix | j-roen, is the authorized_keys on the host in www-data's home only rw for user www-data? |
| 18:59.20 | wols_ | illio: debian doesn't use kernel.org kernels |
| 18:59.33 | wols_ | illio: kernel.org is useless to check |
| 18:59.35 | K_Dallas | wols_, ceil420 I mean running xp and being able to install chessmaster, britannica kind of programs on it. As for vbox, during the nistallation of these packages, it crashed my system completely |
| 18:59.35 | illio | wols_, oh okay?.. where are the kernel updates then |
| 18:59.39 | dudeman | yes it does |
| 18:59.48 | dudeman | where do you think debian gets the linux kernel from? |
| 18:59.53 | wols_ | K_Dallas: you cannot play 3D games under VMs |
| 18:59.56 | dudeman | myp pocket? |
| 18:59.58 | J-roen | Goldenphoenix: That's right. |
| 19:00.00 | wols_ | illio: security.debian.org |
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| 19:00.11 | illio | wols_, oh okay.. thanks.. |
| 19:00.21 | K_Dallas | wols_, I see, so no chessmaster but what about britannica? Would it require 3D ? |
| 19:00.25 | dudeman | debian debianifies the linux kernel heavily, but uhm... it doesn't just pop out of the thin air |
| 19:00.26 | wols_ | dudeman: bullshit. kernel.org has 2.6.26 as latest. debian doesn't (in etch) |
| 19:00.35 | wols_ | K_Dallas: how would I know |
| 19:00.36 | illio | wols_, not extremely used to Debian.. that was the only system they provided, so I guess I'll just have to get used to it :-) |
| 19:00.39 | dudeman | wols_, I think we're not talking about the same thing |
| 19:00.46 | wols_ | ignores dudeman |
| 19:00.48 | K_Dallas | wols_, ok, fair enough. |
| 19:01.00 | Goldenphoenix | and when try to login with ssh at www-user@host there is a password question? |
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| 19:01.20 | J-roen | Goldenphoenix: Yes. First it asks for the password, but after that it says "Public key denied". |
| 19:01.22 | wols_ | illio: it's a very good remote system to use |
| 19:01.26 | ceil420 | .... |
| 19:01.45 | illio | wols_, okay.. :-).. I guess I'll find that out when I get more used to it |
| 19:01.50 | illio | wols_, thanks for your help |
| 19:01.51 | J-roen | Goldenphoenix: (Actually it says: Permission denied (publickey).) |
| 19:02.16 | dudeman | wow, it actually feels pretty good to be the bigger man. |
| 19:02.23 | dudeman | I should try this more often. |
| 19:02.31 | J-roen | Goldenphoenix: root@local:/mnt# ssh -i id_rsa www-data@host\ Enter passphrase for key 'id_rsa':\ Permission denied (publickey). |
| 19:02.33 | dudeman | wols_, thanks. |
| 19:02.59 | prolix | thank you, debianites. for being debianites |
| 19:03.10 | dudeman | prolix, thanks for being prolix |
| 19:03.13 | dudeman | ... :) |
| 19:03.17 | prolix | :) |
| 19:03.19 | J-roen | Goldenphoenix: Is the directory really /var/www/.ssh? |
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| 19:03.47 | spychalski | i wish debian would use ufpr.br as a mirror.. i can get 1mb/s there... br.debian gives me 50kB/S :( |
| 19:04.05 | dudeman | spychalski, try apt-spy and scan south america |
| 19:04.09 | J-roen | Goldenphoenix: /etc/passwd says: www-data:x:33:33:www-data:/var/www:/bin/bash |
| 19:04.10 | dudeman | !tell spychalski -about apt-spy |
| 19:04.15 | spychalski | i did :( |
| 19:04.18 | dudeman | mhm |
| 19:04.29 | wols_ | !tell spychalski about mirrors |
| 19:04.31 | dudeman | its not really dependant on debian |
| 19:04.36 | Goldenphoenix | j-roen, well, then you have to enter the key-password to decrypt the private key, but that is right |
| 19:04.37 | Goldenphoenix | j-roen, then it's /var/www/.ssh |
| 19:04.40 | spychalski | i know |
| 19:04.43 | dudeman | spychalski, you should ask the ufpr.br to host a debian mirror |
| 19:04.52 | spychalski | yeah |
| 19:04.54 | dudeman | debian won't have a problelm adding it to its list if it qualifies |
| 19:04.55 | spychalski | i'll look into it |
| 19:05.02 | spychalski | yeah its a federal university |
| 19:05.14 | dudeman | good stuff, put in an official request |
| 19:05.24 | spychalski | :] |
| 19:05.26 | dudeman | type up a nice letter, paper mail :) |
| 19:05.35 | spychalski | hahaha |
| 19:05.36 | spychalski | yeah |
| 19:05.49 | spychalski | they are official mirror of arch |
| 19:06.03 | spychalski | i've been using arch and decided to try debian, the slowness shocked me :[ |
| 19:06.05 | J-roen | Goldenphoenix: I use the same key and password for another user, but that works fine. Is it possible that logging in with www-data is disabled in some way? |
| 19:06.13 | dudeman | spychalski, slowness of what? |
| 19:06.24 | dudeman | spychalski, debian is by far the FASTEST binary distro I've EVER used. |
| 19:06.26 | spychalski | the mirror heh |
| 19:06.29 | dudeman | oh |
| 19:06.33 | spychalski | i hven't used it yet |
| 19:06.36 | spychalski | i'm still installing packages |
| 19:07.32 | spychalski | oh look ufpr has debian isos :D |
| 19:07.32 | Goldenphoenix | j-roen, try to delete the line in authorized_keys and readd it with root@local:/ ssh-copy-id -i /path/to/id_rsa.pub www-data@host |
| 19:07.33 | spychalski | r0, but at least they're trying |
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| 19:07.44 | Goldenphoenix | j-roen, then give the password for www-data at host |
| 19:07.51 | dudeman | spychalski, join #debian-br and maybe they can help file and/or sign a petition/proposal/request |
| 19:08.03 | Goldenphoenix | j-roen, and then try ssh www-data@host |
| 19:08.04 | dudeman | spychalski, maybe more people may have an effect |
| 19:08.12 | dudeman | on thier decision |
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| 19:08.56 | spychalski | :D |
| 19:08.57 | spychalski | ty |
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| 19:09.22 | J-roen | Goldenphoenix: Password authentication is disabled. |
| 19:09.30 | J-roen | Goldenphoenix: So that won't work. |
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| 19:10.28 | spychalski | dudeman i think ufpr is a mirror, they have the files on the server at least |
| 19:10.32 | spychalski | strange. |
| 19:10.40 | abrotman | might not be official |
| 19:10.42 | dudeman | cool |
| 19:10.45 | spychalski | ftp.c3sl.ufpr.br/debian |
| 19:10.56 | dudeman | official mirrors are listed on debian.org |
| 19:11.00 | spychalski | yeah |
| 19:11.06 | abrotman | debian.das.ufsc.br is a mirror |
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| 19:11.10 | dudeman | and I would only trust official mirrors |
| 19:11.15 | abrotman | h .. wrong place |
| 19:11.16 | dudeman | hey there ya go! |
| 19:11.26 | dudeman | nm ufsc |
| 19:11.28 | abrotman | ftp.br.debian.org |
| 19:11.28 | abrotman | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:11.49 | spychalski | weird :< |
| 19:11.56 | dudeman | do all brazilian mirros work slow for you? |
| 19:11.57 | abrotman | they're already listed |
| 19:12.22 | spychalski | dudeman pretty much. and using pacman on arch they go lightning fast |
| 19:12.39 | dudeman | hm. its not distro dependant. |
| 19:12.51 | dudeman | obviously... |
| 19:13.19 | spychalski | i'll add them all and try one by one :] |
| 19:13.25 | dudeman | go with it :) |
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| 19:13.28 | Goldenphoenix | j-roen, sorry but i don't know further, but it's surely /var/www/.ssh/authorized_keys |
| 19:13.33 | spychalski | root |
| 19:13.35 | spychalski | oops |
| 19:13.36 | spychalski | :[ |
| 19:13.38 | dudeman | what is the fastest consumer internet in Brazil? |
| 19:13.41 | J-roen | Goldenphoenix: Thanks for your help anyway. |
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| 19:13.48 | Goldenphoenix | j-roen, np |
| 19:13.49 | dudeman | residential |
| 19:13.56 | spychalski | hmm |
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| 19:14.11 | spychalski | i'd say virtua.. 12mb dsl download, but only 800k upload |
| 19:14.18 | dudeman | hm not bad |
| 19:14.22 | spychalski | yeah |
| 19:14.24 | dudeman | I normally h ave 10/1 |
| 19:14.25 | spychalski | 120gb quota tho |
| 19:14.34 | spychalski | i have 5/1 |
| 19:14.39 | dudeman | ahh |
| 19:14.47 | dudeman | USA is very slowly in upgrading networks |
| 19:14.49 | dudeman | slow* |
| 19:14.54 | spychalski | we aren't upgrading at all :[ |
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| 19:14.58 | dudeman | damn |
| 19:14.59 | spychalski | at least usa has fios |
| 19:15.05 | dudeman | blah... fios sucks |
| 19:15.10 | dudeman | compared to what it could be |
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| 19:15.15 | spychalski | yueah[ |
| 19:15.16 | spychalski | btw |
| 19:15.17 | dudeman | if they gave us more freedom |
| 19:15.19 | abrotman | far better than average |
| 19:15.26 | dudeman | absolutey, no arg. there |
| 19:15.28 | spychalski | we're testing that internet via energy |
| 19:15.32 | spychalski | powerline or whatever |
| 19:15.48 | dudeman | ahh |
| 19:15.51 | spychalski | EPL i think |
| 19:15.52 | dudeman | broadband over powerlines |
| 19:15.58 | dudeman | thats a horrible idea. |
| 19:16.06 | dudeman | Far too many security risks of all sorts. |
| 19:16.07 | spychalski | yeah but it's 100/100 |
| 19:16.12 | dudeman | its not worth it |
| 19:16.23 | spychalski | they're testing some sort of dsl, 80mb |
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| 19:16.56 | dudeman | sips his glass of milk |
| 19:17.35 | dudeman | dsl here in new york sucks. Verizon gives you 768/128 line for 40$/mo. Roadrunner cable gives you 10/1 for 29.99$/mo |
| 19:17.37 | spychalski | i'm having lunch now. |
| 19:17.42 | dudeman | ok enjoy |
| 19:17.45 | spychalski | hey |
| 19:17.48 | dudeman | yes |
| 19:17.52 | spychalski | damn |
| 19:17.54 | spychalski | shitty upload |
| 19:18.06 | spychalski | i pay the equivalent of 55 dollars for my connection |
| 19:18.32 | dudeman | I pay 40$/mo for 5 ip adresses cuz its 30/mo for internet and 2$/private ip per month |
| 19:18.40 | dudeman | well 44.something cuz of tax |
| 19:18.47 | spychalski | why 5 ips? |
| 19:18.57 | dudeman | that is classified information :) |
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| 19:19.09 | spychalski | oh |
| 19:19.14 | spychalski | i use colocation for that information |
| 19:19.21 | spychalski | 19 euro a month, does the job |
| 19:19.23 | amphi | spychalski: means he can't recall ;) |
| 19:19.30 | dudeman | amphi, shaddup! |
| 19:19.41 | spychalski | HMMMMM meat |
| 19:19.42 | dudeman | :/ |
| 19:19.46 | spychalski | anyone here is a vegan? |
| 19:19.51 | abrotman | !ot |
| 19:19.51 | dpkg | Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic (i.e., Debian support), or return to the topic after a short while. #debian-offtopic is the place for longer off-topic discussions. |
| 19:19.56 | spychalski | ;~ |
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| 19:20.38 | dudeman | music time and back to development I go.. Zend is kicking my ass lately |
| 19:20.43 | dudeman | np: (Psycroptic) (Ob(Servant)) (Initiate) (Technical Deathmetal) (8:01m) (2008) (0/0) |
| 19:20.47 | spychalski | it says longer so i'm gonna put it on a single line: i lost a bet, i had to 'go vegan' for one week. it ended today, first time eating meat :< |
| 19:20.48 | dudeman | mother fucker |
| 19:20.58 | dudeman | sorry |
| 19:20.58 | spychalski | np(MP3/V0): 8mm Sky - [2006] Finders Keepers / 08 - What If Next Autumn [2m53s/4.74mb/233kbps/44.1kHz] |
| 19:21.00 | spychalski | ha! |
| 19:21.01 | dudeman | that was |
| 19:21.02 | dudeman | no |
| 19:21.03 | dudeman | don't do that |
| 19:21.09 | dudeman | that was an accident here, don't spam mp3 |
| 19:21.09 | spychalski | sorry |
| 19:21.12 | spychalski | haha |
| 19:21.24 | dudeman | join #music |
| 19:21.33 | dudeman | we can spam and discuss all day long |
| 19:21.36 | spychalski | hahah |
| 19:21.37 | amphi | !qotd19 |
| 19:21.37 | dpkg | hmm... qotd19 is <Overfiend> "PHP 5! Now with Zend-enhanced multicrashing! Reserve your copy today!" |
| 19:21.44 | dudeman | amphi, I will get a moron. |
| 19:21.49 | dudeman | hehe get me that quote |
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| 19:22.02 | amphi | a classic |
| 19:22.04 | dudeman | hehe |
| 19:22.07 | dudeman | indeed |
| 19:22.16 | spychalski | alright then |
| 19:22.22 | spychalski | eating and watching packages download slowly here i come |
| 19:22.38 | dudeman | you don't have to watch them you can chat with me in #music |
| 19:22.49 | amphi | Quote #24: "< Nyle> I wil get a moron" |
| 19:22.56 | dudeman | heheeh =D |
| 19:22.59 | spychalski | haha |
| 19:23.11 | dudeman | I meant to say something else... and that came out |
| 19:23.15 | dudeman | lol |
| 19:25.41 | J-roen | Goldenphoenix: I finally solved the problem! The folder /var/www had permissions 770, which should be 755. |
| 19:26.04 | dudeman | you probably want 754? |
| 19:26.24 | J-roen | dudeman: Thanks for your advise. I'll try if that works too (I guess so). |
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| 19:26.49 | dudeman | reason being I don't think you want other to be able to write to /var/www only owner which is www-data |
| 19:27.00 | dudeman | !tell J-roen -about permissions |
| 19:27.06 | J-roen | dudeman: You're completely right. |
| 19:27.21 | dudeman | and perhaps group (5) |
| 19:27.35 | Goldenphoenix | j-roen, thanks for posting the solution |
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| 19:29.52 | dudeman | actually |
| 19:30.01 | dudeman | 744 may be more appropriate... |
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| 19:32.54 | micr0c0sm | how2tell if a package is 32-bit or 64-bit from apt-get ? |
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| 19:33.31 | dudeman | micr0c0sm, arch type? |
| 19:33.46 | abrotman | micr0c0sm: dpkg -I foo.deb |
| 19:36.21 | micr0c0sm | I am on a core2duothanks |
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| 19:37.48 | spychalski | ok, i'm failing at installing the virtualbox guest utils on debian. :( |
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| 19:38.52 | dudeman | spychalski, vbox is a pain at times to get goin. You have to get the modules packagfe and modprobe vboxdrv and add yourself to vboxusers gruop and logout/login |
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| 19:39.01 | dudeman | spychalski, what exact problem? |
| 19:39.11 | qq- | virtualbox complains >>> VBox status code: -1912 (VERR_VM_DRIVER_VERSION_MISMATCH) tested on 2.6.26-1-686 (and -bigmem) |
| 19:39.33 | spychalski | i'm using apt-get ibnstall virtualbox-ose-guest-utils |
| 19:39.36 | spychalski | install* |
| 19:39.42 | spychalski | and there is no package |
| 19:40.16 | spychalski | oh, i should say debian is my guest |
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| 19:41.59 | spychalski | ok, nevermind |
| 19:42.15 | qq- | spychalski: is only in testing |
| 19:42.28 | qq- | or sid |
| 19:42.33 | spychalski | oh |
| 19:42.36 | spychalski | the mirror is working now |
| 19:42.48 | spychalski | yay 620kb/s |
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| 19:44.42 | dudeman | yay! |
| 19:44.55 | dudeman | I get usualy 1.2MB/s from osuosl |
| 19:45.19 | spychalski | hmmmm |
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| 19:45.29 | spychalski | can i change the security mirror to a brazilian one? |
| 19:45.34 | spychalski | it seems thats where the problem is |
| 19:45.43 | spychalski | can=should |
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| 19:47.28 | rgr | is there a hot key to switch between x-screens on y dual head setup using seperate x screens? |
| 19:47.45 | rgr | s/ y/ a |
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| 19:54.18 | spychalski | debian is faster |
| 19:54.19 | spychalski | hooray |
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| 20:01.24 | xand | opinions on having /var on an NFS mount (it would otherwise be on compact flash like the rest of the filesystem)? |
| 20:03.26 | prolix | i used to think it was cruel to immediately dismiss people from other debian based distros when they came in for help. no more. |
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| 20:04.11 | Goldenphoenix | xand, /var/log on another server is (in my opinion) not a good idea |
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| 20:04.19 | xand | hm |
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| 20:05.13 | Goldenphoenix | when something doesn't work you don't have the logs |
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| 20:06.12 | Kulik1 | hi, I installed etch on RAID10 via two stripped RAID1 arrays (not actual RAID10, but RAID0 over two RAID1 - each of two discs), I noticed I only gained something like 10% reading benefit from this (hdparm), am I doing something wrong? |
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| 20:06.40 | Kulik1 | etch doesn't have RAID10 module so I went this way, theoretically it's the same thing |
| 20:07.00 | jon_ | so RAID0 + RAID1 == RAID10? :) |
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| 20:07.49 | Kulik1 | jon_: I would guess so :-D |
| 20:08.10 | jon_ | must be that new math... |
| 20:08.42 | Kulik1 | jon_: enlighten me if it's not the same thing :) |
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| 20:09.15 | jon_ | not sure what raid10 is... I think raid0 is putting two drives together to pretend they are one |
| 20:09.22 | rgr | anyone here using superswitcher? If does the "Windows" key on your keyboard work with it in debina? |
| 20:09.29 | jon_ | raid1 might be mirroring |
| 20:09.30 | spq | how could i best build some kernels for some machines, i would create a .config file for all different configurations and a list of all images i need to generate with the needed arch and the config to use - and make-kpkg should generate the deb packages for all those listed combinations... |
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| 20:10.53 | Kulik1 | jon_: you either don't know what I am talking about or you're kidding me, if you can't help, leave me alone :-D |
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| 20:13.13 | spychalski | oh shit |
| 20:13.15 | spychalski | out of memory |
| 20:14.26 | spychalski | ok more memory now |
| 20:14.32 | jon_ | I just don't think raid0 combined with raid1 is anything like raid10, which probably involves striping, load balancing, the whole bit... I also don't believe: that either raid0 or raid1 have anything to do with increasing performance, or that non-hardware raid provides much performance over say lvm |
| 20:15.29 | jon_ | in other words, if you're seeing a 10% performance increase using either, consider yourself lucky |
| 20:15.43 | Kulik1 | jon_: and you do know that lvm is software, right? and that by doing raid0 you strip the data over two disks? have you ever seen a server in real life? |
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| 20:16.24 | jon_ | of course (but now you seem to be getting hostile and therefore offtopic) |
| 20:16.51 | spychalski | fuck |
| 20:16.53 | spychalski | out of memory again |
| 20:16.55 | jon_ | hint: no one else is responding... |
| 20:18.21 | Kulik1 | jon_: sorry, I just think that you know a little less of RAID than I do and I confess I know very little |
| 20:18.35 | jon_ | you're probably right about thaT\ |
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| 20:20.46 | jon_ | as for lvm, for home use it's good to have say one pv on one drive, and then have that in one volume group... the only multidrive lvm that works anywhere near well is when you put the pv(s) on a hardware array |
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| 20:21.25 | spychalski | is it normal for make to kill itself when out of memory? :/ |
| 20:21.54 | maligor | probably a linux feature |
| 20:22.04 | maligor | it's a bit optimistic about memory allocation |
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| 20:22.27 | spychalski | something is wrong, i'm compiling xmlrpc and it just runs out of memory |
| 20:22.48 | jon_ | how much ram do you have? and how much stuff is running? |
| 20:22.54 | spychalski | 2gb, nothing, console |
| 20:24.03 | jon_ | it's probably normal for any app to (not kill itself but) be killed by the system when certain events (like out of mem) happen |
| 20:24.19 | spychalski | well, i shouldn't be running out of memory compiling a 300kb program |
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| 20:24.54 | jon_ | what exactly is the command line that's out of mem? |
| 20:25.05 | spychalski | gimme a sec i'll try again |
| 20:25.08 | jon_ | (it's not make, it's some specific thing that make is calling) |
| 20:25.23 | spychalski | i was using svn, maybe the build is fucked up, i'll update |
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| 20:27.34 | jon_ | do you make clean after doing anything that would alter the source (like updating from svn)? |
| 20:27.50 | simonrvn | probably gcc |
| 20:27.59 | simonrvn | then gets oom'ed |
| 20:28.19 | simonrvn | oh, could be xsltproc, that's a real hog |
| 20:28.41 | spychalski | now sf.net is being a bitch |
| 20:28.51 | simonrvn | (as usual :P) |
| 20:28.54 | spychalski | yeah. |
| 20:29.39 | simonrvn | doesn't happen as often now. at one point it was horrible. |
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| 20:33.18 | wire | I want to play around with setting up a pxe/nfs boot deal, but where to start? |
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| 20:34.16 | petemc | read one of the many guides or some of the extensive documentation |
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| 20:34.21 | Walex | wire: with a web search for a PXE/NFS tutorial? There are several, including on Debian.org |
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| 20:34.54 | wire | I have read a few of them already, I guess I should just go for it |
| 20:35.21 | spychalski | jon_: http://pastebin.com/m669af13 |
| 20:35.25 | Walex | wire: it is not that difficult, especially if you boot a live CD that does the automount. |
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| 20:35.56 | wire | I am thinking more of nfs root |
| 20:35.57 | yareckon | hey y'all, quick question, where should I look to see what the status of various gnome 2.24 packages in sid? |
| 20:36.02 | wire | I think that is what it is called |
| 20:36.07 | simNIX | Walex, maybe start at http://www.howtoforge.com/pxe_booting_debian and http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_pxe_install_server |
| 20:36.28 | simNIX | I ment to wire |
| 20:36.31 | simNIX | my bad |
| 20:38.58 | simNIX | FWIW: you can run / filesystem off nfs but thats slooow |
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| 20:39.19 | wire | even over gigabit? |
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| 20:39.39 | simNIX | not tested here ... |
| 20:39.46 | wire | oh, I remember that nfs was just slow in general |
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| 20:40.10 | simNIX | I prefer a disk immage that gets downloaded to ram and then booted off as if it were the hd |
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| 20:41.01 | wire | this isn't really for any practical purpose, I just want something interesting to play around with |
| 20:41.10 | simNIX | wire; very program you open or run uses libs for instance |
| 20:41.10 | dondelelcaro | NFS isn't that slow |
| 20:41.19 | simNIX | *every |
| 20:41.25 | dondelelcaro | and waiting for the whole disk to end up in ram can't possibly be faster than NFS |
| 20:41.26 | Walex | wire: with the right config you can get 70-80MB/s writing and 100-110MB/s reading over NFS on a 1Gb/s Ethernet... |
| 20:41.42 | dondelelcaro | (since it's not like NFS doesn't cache reads) |
| 20:41.50 | Walex | wire: that requires a recentish kernel though (2.6) |
| 20:41.56 | wire | Walex: well that should be plenty fast enough |
| 20:42.07 | simNIX | dondelelcaro, I didnt say whole disk |
| 20:42.11 | Walex | wire: but make really sure you got the right parameters. |
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| 20:42.15 | wire | Walex: 2.6.23 should work fine |
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| 20:42.34 | dondelelcaro | simNIX: if you're just loading the parts as you need them, then you're re-inventing NFS or nbd, or similar. |
| 20:43.25 | simNIX | dondelelcaro, a memory fs filled with a custom set of programs is one download to ram, then everything gets loaded from ram |
| 20:43.30 | Walex | Some information on NFS tuning: http://www.sabi.co.uk/blog/0707jul.html#070701b |
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| 20:44.38 | dondelelcaro | simNIX: uh... so you're loading the entire filesystem that you're going to run into ram; it's still going to be slower than NFS. |
| 20:44.55 | dondelelcaro | (unless your setup is seriously broken, NFS should be running at near-wire speed) |
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| 20:45.26 | wire | well my hard drives don't go as fast as the wires do anyway |
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| 20:45.53 | wire | most of them are pretty old |
| 20:47.42 | timo_ | hey how do i get my alt codes to work? |
| 20:48.31 | simNIX | dondelelcaro, sure nfs disk access over a network is faster then direct ram access ... even if it takes a few moments to load the fs before it runs for very long |
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| 20:50.07 | dustybin | what does bootstrapping mean? |
| 20:50.54 | dustybin | if i wanted to install a debian os from within debian, i could need to bootstrap a debian installer? |
| 20:51.02 | dustybin | *would |
| 20:51.19 | wire | yes, look up how to use debootstrap |
| 20:51.31 | Walex | dustybin: there is a special command for that 'deboostrap'. It allows you to install Debian on a partition without rebooting into an installer. |
| 20:51.36 | dustybin | what files does a bootstrap look for ? |
| 20:51.53 | dondelelcaro | simNIX: the point is that direct ram access is the equivalent of caching with the benifit of being able to remove unused things from cache |
| 20:52.06 | dustybin | does it look for the same files, just as if you booted from a os |
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| 20:52.51 | dondelelcaro | simNIX: so you not only take longer to boot initially, you waste more ram; you'll have faster access times for things that have been timed out of cache, but that nomally shouldn't be a huge problem. |
| 20:53.13 | demontager | what the deference between ia64 and amd64 distros? |
| 20:53.27 | dondelelcaro | demontager: they're totally different instruction sets |
| 20:53.34 | jelly-home | demontager: they run on different, incompatible hardware |
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| 20:54.05 | dondelelcaro | demontager: you want amd64 in general; if you really need ia64, you'll know that you have it, because you've paid high 5 to low 6 figures for your hardware. |
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| 20:54.17 | dondelelcaro | err, 4 to 5. |
| 20:54.36 | wire | dustybin: debootstrap is kind of like an installer |
| 20:54.42 | wire | at least part of one |
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| 20:55.00 | crow | Hi, I am trying to check fome source using "git" but everytime i type "git clone ...." i get git command not found, and apt-get install git prompt that it is on latest version |
| 20:55.07 | dustybin | yep i know what debootstrap is, i want to know what bootstrapping means as a whole |
| 20:55.14 | dondelelcaro | dustybin: you can use deboostrap or cdebootstrap; the all use Debian mirrors to get their files. |
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| 20:55.26 | demontager | I have MSI GX700 laptop whith Intel DualCore, what i have to choose ia64 or amd64? |
| 20:55.28 | dondelelcaro | dustybin: all it means is getting the filesystem in a position so that additional Debian packages can be installed. |
| 20:55.35 | dondelelcaro | demontager: amd64 or i386. |
| 20:55.37 | dustybin | i see |
| 20:55.45 | jelly-home | dustybin: um, wikipedia for a general usage? |
| 20:55.58 | dustybin | jelly-home: ive read lots of wiki pages, its still not clear to me |
| 20:56.50 | dondelelcaro | dustybin: in the non-debian context, it means putting a machine into a state where other things can run; it's how the machine pulls itself up by it's boot straps. |
| 20:57.05 | dustybin | yep thats what i thought, but wasnt sure |
| 20:57.15 | jelly-home | I thought it meant using a specific system to create another usable system like that one |
| 20:57.29 | dondelelcaro | jelly-home: in the Debian context yes; in other contexts, no. |
| 20:57.37 | jelly-home | like, bootstraping gcc with using gcc to build another one |
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| 20:57.44 | dustybin | a bootstrap is what happens when you first turn on your computer and your os boots |
| 20:58.07 | jelly-home | dondelelcaro: system in general; not an os or an os installation |
| 20:58.10 | dondelelcaro | it literally refers to bootstrapping, or pulling oneself up by one's boot straps. |
| 20:58.18 | demontager | I want to install system whith X, is it enough to install from this one: debian-testing-amd64-kde-CD-1.iso ? |
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| 20:58.37 | dondelelcaro | demontager: if you want kde, yes; you could also just use the netinst. |
| 20:59.37 | demontager | yes, but netinst don't support my wifi adapter, and i need to put firmware manualy |
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| 21:04.27 | hifi | what was the thing to do to allow startx over ssh? |
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| 21:04.55 | spychalski | !apt-spy |
| 21:04.55 | dpkg | well, apt-spy is a secret! Shh! 'Mirror, mirror, on the wall... who is the fastest of them all?' Note that it will overwrite your sources.list when finished, so (1) cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.mybak (2) apt-get install apt-spy (3) apt-spy update; apt-spy -d [stable,testing,unstable] -a [Africa,Asia,Europe,North-America,Oceania,South-America] (4) fix your sources.list by adding back in any other mirrors you had been using. |
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| 21:05.10 | Goldenphoenix | hifi ssh -Y |
| 21:05.11 | unixSnob | i'm trying to patch the sound problem in the alsa driver, and when I try to 'make' the patched driver, I get "/bin/sh: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.25-2-amd64/scripts/gcc-x86_64-has-stack-protector.sh: No such file or directory" |
| 21:05.35 | unixSnob | what package do I need to get the gcc-x86_64-has-stack-protector.sh file? |
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| 21:05.57 | wols_ | !tell unixSnob about search |
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| 21:05.58 | blubberdiblub | hifi, man 5 Xwrapper.config, and search for allowed_users |
| 21:06.15 | demontager | If to install the latest testing debian distro, what the kernel will be? |
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| 21:06.31 | dustybin | how did somone code a assembler without a assembler? ie the 1st ever assembler created |
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| 21:06.55 | nicalvaro | Punchcards? |
| 21:07.16 | unixSnob | wols_: gcc-x86_64-has-stack-protector.sh is a component of a package, not a package, so that search comes up empty |
| 21:07.52 | hifi | blubberdiblub: thanks, that was it |
| 21:08.24 | jelly-home | dustybin: they typed the numbers in! |
| 21:08.37 | jelly-home | DUH |
| 21:08.44 | Goldenphoenix | hello, something is blocking my computer by creating a lot of "sleep 1" threads |
| 21:09.28 | dustybin | jelly-home: who can code in pure machine code? |
| 21:09.38 | Goldenphoenix | when I view it per htop there is /bin/sh -e /lib/udev/net.agent the caller of these threads |
| 21:09.51 | blubberdiblub | dustybin, someone who has the machine code tables or knows them by heart :) |
| 21:09.54 | Goldenphoenix | and my load is at 32 |
| 21:09.57 | jelly-home | dustybin: anyone who sets their mind to it |
| 21:10.04 | dustybin | jeeze |
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| 21:10.37 | jelly-home | dustybin: I guess you didn't own an 8bit microcomputer |
| 21:11.10 | dustybin | if every tool and application was written in pure machine code the best possible way, would there be a big improvment on how things run? |
| 21:11.10 | jelly-home | !offtopic |
| 21:11.10 | dpkg | A little off-topic conversation is okay here and there, but not too much, and not when the channel's busy, and not if it's your primary reason for being here. please join #debian-offtopic on irc.freenode.net |
| 21:11.34 | dustybin | jelly-home: i owned a C64 |
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| 21:12.08 | Goldenphoenix | and there are lots of /bin/sh -e /lib/udev/net.agent threads too (about 29) |
| 21:12.12 | jelly-home | dustybin: that's an excellent example, but I won't continue this conversation here |
| 21:12.22 | blubberdiblub | dustybin: which does have a quite simple machine code table |
| 21:12.33 | dustybin | ok |
| 21:12.37 | Goldenphoenix | what can I do? |
| 21:12.59 | nicalvaro | I borked my user accounts by trying to modify one while logged in. Now, I can log in but it tells has "I have no name@hostname". |
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| 21:13.46 | noye | can anyone suggest a good nintendo emulator |
| 21:13.46 | Goldenphoenix | in syslog there is nothing uncommon |
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| 21:14.15 | noye | i dont like nestra |
| 21:15.20 | abrotman | noye: apt-cache search nintendo emulat |
| 21:15.53 | spq | is there a good way to build kernels for some different machines? |
| 21:16.32 | unixSnob_ | apt-cache search seems to cover packages, not components of packages |
| 21:16.50 | abrotman | what? |
| 21:17.31 | unixSnob_ | "apt-cache search gcc-x86_64-has-stack-protector.sh" comes up empty |
| 21:18.33 | abrotman | !tell unixSnob_ about apt-file |
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| 21:19.31 | mirak | hi |
| 21:20.28 | mirak | I am trying to debianise vdr plugin, however I don't understand where the CFLAGS are set . it doesn't take the one in the Makefile and I don't see where to add that in the generated debian/ folder |
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| 21:20.36 | unixSnob_ | thanks abrotman |
| 21:20.58 | noye | abrotman: thanks |
| 21:21.11 | mirak | dpkg-buildpackage takes default CFLAGS, and I don't see where to tell him to take what I want |
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| 21:23.21 | Zeroyez | How do I list network adapters? |
| 21:23.24 | abrotman | ifconfig -a |
| 21:24.20 | Zeroyez | Thanks, now how can I give it an IP like 192.168.1.103? |
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| 21:25.44 | abrotman | !tell Zeroyez about interfaces |
| 21:26.31 | nicalvaro | abrotman how can I find out what things the robots can say to me? |
| 21:26.47 | abrotman | !your factoids |
| 21:26.47 | dpkg | Pick my brains at http://dpkg.vireo.org/search.php or ask me about <help listkeys> or <search>. Also, my factoids are available at http://rzlab.ucr.edu/~dpkg/ in archives that are updated nightly and the previous 18 days are archived. |
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| 21:28.56 | nicalvaro | I think that dpkg.vireo.org site needs to set up it's apache correctly. |
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| 21:29.22 | octox2 | is there a file checker for xfs ? |
| 21:29.26 | nicalvaro | It wants me to download the php file. |
| 21:29.50 | unixSnob_ | Would someone run the this command for me? "apt-file search gcc-x86_64-has-stack-protector.sh" It's sucking my g3 connection dry to run apt-file update |
| 21:30.39 | dondelelcaro | unixSnob_: just use packages.debian.org |
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| 21:31.25 | unixSnob_ | dondelelcaro: i'll check it out.. is that a web page? |
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| 21:33.24 | unixSnob_ | "Sorry, your search gave no results" was the response |
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| 21:34.04 | TunisUnit | can i use a touchscreen display with debian |
| 21:34.27 | Zeroyez | How do I install Intel PRO/1000 network drivers on etch? |
| 21:34.49 | unixSnob_ | TunisUnit: maemo is a debian variant that supports touch screen |
| 21:35.09 | TunisUnit | so do i have to install any additional drivers |
| 21:35.13 | abrotman | huh? |
| 21:35.18 | spychalski | i'm having problems with xmlrpc-c =// |
| 21:35.20 | TunisUnit | *buy additional drivers |
| 21:35.34 | abrotman | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=touch+screen+debian&btnG=Search |
| 21:36.12 | wols_ | Zeroyez: get a etchnhalf kernel |
| 21:36.34 | TunisUnit | Planar LA1500RTC says I have to buy Linux drivers for touchscreen but with Maemo that is not necassary |
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| 21:36.49 | TunisUnit | *planar is a product |
| 21:36.58 | wols_ | Planar LA1500RTC has no clue |
| 21:37.01 | Zeroyez | my current kernel is etchnhalf.1-amd64 |
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| 21:37.17 | wols_ | Zeroyez: ifconfig -a |
| 21:37.22 | Zeroyez | only shows lo |
| 21:37.29 | TunisUnit | thanks |
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| 21:37.35 | wols_ | lspci -nn |
| 21:38.03 | Zeroyez | -bash: lspci: command not found |
| 21:38.07 | abrotman | dmesg | grep eth ? |
| 21:38.13 | wols_ | !tell Zeroyez about installit |
| 21:39.22 | Zeroyez | I'm keeping to a minimal install, anyways, dmesg returns e1000: eth0: e1000_probe: Intel(R)... |
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| 21:44.38 | svref | debian doesn't seem to be recognising my new usb camera. When it plugs in, it never seems to become /dev/sda or whatever. Any idea why? (I am not an expert at Linux, it may be real obvious!) |
| 21:45.00 | streuner | Does it support usb-storage at all? |
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| 21:46.30 | Samuel-NotAFK | Every time I try to run 'compiz --replace' I get this error: /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Error: http://pastebin.com/m7bc0cece I've tried googling the problem but after a couple of hours can't sort it out. I'm running Debian Lenny please help |
| 21:47.08 | unixSnob_ | so it turns out that my problem is the file gcc-x86_64-has-stack-protector.sh was omitted from the amd64 header package (but it's part of the intel headers) |
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| 21:47.25 | streuner | You have 2 options: A) your camera support usb-storage, use /msg dpkg usb-storage then, or B) your camera doesnt support usb-storage, you should use gphoto2 then |
| 21:48.00 | dbbddbdb | Hi! Why does dpkg-dev 1.14.20 always force «-O2 -g»? (1.14.12 does not) |
| 21:48.00 | streuner | if any of these options fail, just use a cardreader :-) |
| 21:48.12 | streuner | heh |
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| 21:49.00 | svref | streuner: hm.... is there some other kind? |
| 21:49.19 | streuner | svref: thats for digital cameras, what do you have? |
| 21:49.36 | streuner | if you talking about webcams, just find a driver :-) |
| 21:49.41 | Goldenphoenix | ok, i fixed the problem with the very high load, it was a false route-entry, so the routes where not distinct |
| 21:50.11 | Goldenphoenix | how can I avoid a network-bridge to get an ip-address? |
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| 21:50.40 | svref | streuner: canon powershot a1000 |
| 21:51.56 | svref | streuner: /var/log/messages natters on happily about "new high speed USB device" at address 44, but never gets around to saying "Attached scsi removable disk sda" like with the old camera |
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| 21:55.24 | svref | I also have a usb card reader, which has the opposite problem apperantly: it says something about being both sda, sdb, and sdc (becuase it's 3 card readers in one), but I can't mount any actual cards with fstype vfat. :P |
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| 21:57.10 | bloat_detective | svref: try running udevmonitor as root while plugging/unplugging devices |
| 21:58.18 | bol_ | Hi, i have this problem with gnome in debian lenny that when i open a link in my IM or IRC, firefox moves from desktop 2 to the current. Is it possible to make firefox sticky at desktop 2? |
| 21:58.33 | bol_ | It worked before i ran a upgrade |
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| 21:58.42 | enouf | svref: look for things like sdap1 and mount that |
| 21:58.52 | bol_ | but i don't remember what version it was i upgraded from.. |
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| 21:59.43 | bol_ | running debian lenny btw.. |
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| 22:01.10 | dbbddbdb | «debuild -i -uc -us» shows http://pastebin.com/mdf8c609 (1.14.12 doesn't say anything about default CFLAGS and uses whatever ./configure says). man dpkg-buildpackage says something about environment that should have this variables defined, but I can't find any documentation about that. |
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| 22:02.45 | enouf | dbbddbdb: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=458589 |
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| 22:05.18 | svref | enouf: did you mean the "p" in "sdap1", or was it a typeo? |
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| 22:07.09 | enouf | svref: yes, but that might be very camera/vendor specific |
| 22:07.58 | enouf | svref: if it isn't there, don't worry about it - just another thing to look out for |
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| 22:09.08 | dbbddbdb | enouf: but I don't use parallel build. Here is the rules file: http://pastebin.com/d5b2e5e3c |
| 22:10.00 | enouf | dbbddbdb: have you looked through the changelog? |
| 22:10.19 | dbbddbdb | enouf: which one? |
| 22:10.33 | enouf | the pkg you said has an issue |
| 22:12.19 | dbbddbdb | Downloading it right now. Does it say anything about overriding CFLAGS set by configure? |
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| 22:14.17 | svref | are /dev/usbdev3.1_ep81 and its about 10 other buddies (all with slightly different numbers) important? |
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| 22:16.13 | dbbddbdb | Hm, «Packages should be compiled using -g -O2 unless DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS doesn't specify noopt in which case packages should be built using -g -O0.» |
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| 22:16.45 | yao_ziyuan | what is debian's advantage over ubuntu? i'm currently using ubuntu 8.10 + kde 4.1.1 |
| 22:16.52 | yao_ziyuan | and disadvantage? |
| 22:17.00 | abrotman | !tell yao_ziyuan about why debian |
| 22:17.46 | svref | !tell svref about why debian |
| 22:17.54 | avu | !tell svref about selftell |
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| 22:18.32 | enouf | svref: no, those _ep81 things are nonsense/meaningless |
| 22:19.06 | enouf | svref: uname -r says? |
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| 22:19.37 | enouf | svref: lsmod | grep mmc ... modprobe -l | grep mmc |
| 22:20.21 | svref | enouf: uname -r = 2.6.18-6-k7 |
| 22:20.37 | enouf | svref: try the newer etchnhalf kernel |
| 22:20.59 | svref | enouf: how do I spell that in package speak? |
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| 22:21.36 | enouf | svref: apt-get update ; apt-cache search linux-image | grep 24 |
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| 22:23.32 | Goundy | Hello. |
| 22:24.12 | Goundy | I've a question; When I chroot into my debian partition (/media/debian/) from my Gentoo, why there's no internet on debian ? |
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| 22:24.21 | Goundy | For example if I ping I get nothing... |
| 22:24.32 | enouf | Goundy: missing --bind mounts? |
| 22:24.35 | unop | you haven't mounted /proc |
| 22:24.40 | Goundy | ah |
| 22:24.59 | Goundy | I'll retry |
| 22:25.44 | unop | what would this mean when trying to eject a device in dolphin. Device to unmount is not in /media/.hal-mtab so it is not mounted by HAL . I use ivman and mount the device using pmount-hal, so this error doesn't make sense. |
| 22:26.03 | Goundy | unop nothing changed I mounted proc but no result :/ |
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| 22:26.15 | unop | Goundy, how did you mount /proc? |
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| 22:27.04 | Goundy | unop mount -o bind /proc /media/debian/proc |
| 22:27.09 | enouf | Goundy: bind mount /sys and maybe /var too? wait, i have a chroot i can try here |
| 22:27.25 | Goundy | enouf ok I'll add that also moment |
| 22:27.30 | unop | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:28.06 | enouf | proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) |
| 22:28.08 | enouf | /sys on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) |
| 22:28.11 | Goundy | Nothing :/ |
| 22:28.27 | enouf | wait - i'll post the diffs |
| 22:28.36 | Goundy | ok |
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| 22:29.29 | Asymmetry | Question: When installing Debian as a multipurpose server, should I use tasksel in the installer to add the web/file/SQLDB components, or should I wait to select specific packages? |
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| 22:29.45 | abrotman | Asymmetry: i wouldn't |
| 22:29.54 | enouf | Goundy: http://sial.org/pbot/32350 |
| 22:30.04 | Asymmetry | abrotman, You wouldn't use tasksel, or what? |
| 22:30.12 | abrotman | nope .. i never do |
| 22:30.21 | Asymmetry | Nor do I. Making sure I wasn't missing out on something. |
| 22:31.00 | enouf | --- google.com ping statistics --- |
| 22:31.00 | enouf | 3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2006ms |
| 22:31.25 | Goundy | hmm :/ |
| 22:31.35 | Goundy | enouf do you use Gentoo also? |
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| 22:37.33 | Goundy | unop it's working finally but when apt-cache search something I get: |
| 22:37.34 | Goundy | E: Could not open file /var/lib/dpkg/status - open (2 No such file or directory) |
| 22:38.12 | unop | Goundy, did you setup debian with /var on a different partition possibly? |
| 22:38.23 | Goundy | unop no |
| 22:38.44 | unop | hmm |
| 22:38.59 | unop | try. aptitude update |
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| 22:39.36 | BUDO | have a question |
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| 22:40.07 | Goundy | unop:E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (2 No such file or directory) E: Couldn't lock list directory..are you root? |
| 22:40.38 | eddieBB | does anyone know of a FTP Client that allows multiple files to be uploaded to a server at the same time? |
| 22:40.54 | Goundy | eddieBB GFtp ? |
| 22:40.58 | Goundy | FileZilla ? |
| 22:41.06 | BUDO | is it worth it to download linux now over windows? |
| 22:41.28 | eddieBB | Goundy: gftp does? |
| 22:41.34 | streuner | troll somewhere else |
| 22:41.34 | Goundy | eddieBB yes |
| 22:41.37 | unop | Goundy, do you have a /var/lib directory? |
| 22:41.44 | eddieBB | Goundy: okay, thanks |
| 22:41.49 | Goundy | unop yeah I have it |
| 22:42.21 | unop | Goundy, /var/lib/apt ? |
| 22:42.59 | Goundy | unop no hehe |
| 22:43.01 | BUDO | ?? |
| 22:43.14 | unop | Goundy, are you sure you completed the debian install successfully? |
| 22:43.25 | Goundy | unop yeah when I boot it up it works perfectly |
| 22:43.33 | Goundy | Well I'm doing that because am connected through wireless |
| 22:43.38 | unop | Goundy, hmm |
| 22:43.44 | Goundy | and my debian doesn't have wireless drivers yet |
| 22:43.47 | unop | Goundy, very strange |
| 22:43.53 | Goundy | weird |
| 22:44.30 | unop | Goundy, well, i would try this. mkdir /var/lib/apt/lists && touch /var/lib/apt/lists/lock |
| 22:44.41 | unop | Goundy, then. aptitude update |
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| 22:45.21 | Goundy | unop E: Lists directory /var/lib/apt/lists/partial is missing. |
| 22:45.21 | Goundy | E: Archive directory /var/cache/apt/archives/partial is missing. |
| 22:45.22 | Goundy | :/ |
| 22:45.36 | unop | Goundy, jeez |
| 22:45.37 | Goundy | Well man nevermind I'll reinstall that damned system from scratch I think it's borked :< |
| 22:45.52 | unop | Goundy, wait wait |
| 22:45.52 | streuner | no |
| 22:46.01 | Goundy | ya? |
| 22:46.18 | unop | Goundy, do you have a /var/cache/apt/archives dir? |
| 22:46.33 | Goundy | no :/ |
| 22:46.40 | Goundy | no apt dir in /var/cache |
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| 22:47.28 | unop | Goundy, ok, mkdir /var/cache/apt/archives/partial/ |
| 22:48.09 | Goundy | done |
| 22:48.13 | unop | Goundy, see if this works. aptitude reinstall apt |
| 22:48.32 | unop | Goundy, hmm, actually that might not work |
| 22:48.47 | Goundy | no :/ |
| 22:48.58 | unop | Goundy, ok. aptitude update |
| 22:49.00 | Goundy | unop It's better to reinstall the system no? |
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| 22:49.11 | Goundy | E: Lists directory /var/lib/apt/lists/partial is missing. |
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| 22:49.16 | qq- | Goundy: do " pwd " |
| 22:49.27 | Goundy | hehe qq- "/" |
| 22:49.36 | Goundy | Am in root dir |
| 22:49.47 | qq- | in chroot dir ? |
| 22:49.52 | unop | Goundy, create that dir and try again |
| 22:50.00 | Goundy | qq- yes |
| 22:50.04 | Goundy | unop ok |
| 22:50.10 | qq- | ls boot |
| 22:50.44 | Goundy | unop he's trying to do updates but weird there's no connection >_< |
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| 22:50.56 | Goundy | I can ping local machines but nothing out ôO |
| 22:50.58 | unop | what would this mean when trying to eject a device in dolphin. Device to unmount is not in /media/.hal-mtab so it is not mounted by HAL . Despite the device being mounted by pmount-hal |
| 22:51.04 | streuner | hm |
| 22:51.13 | Goundy | qq- config-2.6.18-5-486 grub initrd.img-2.6.18-5-486 initrd.img-2.6.18-5-486.bak System.map-2.6.18-5-486 vmlinuz-2.6.18-5-486 |
| 22:51.28 | qq- | ok |
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| 22:51.51 | unop | Goundy, can you ping hosts on the internet? |
| 22:52.02 | kgoetz | hi all. when i run `file $(which python)` it tells me its a symbolic link to python 2.4. when i try and run reportbug, it tries to use python2.5. any ideas what i can do to make python 2.5 not get used by things? i cant report bugs atm :) |
| 22:52.31 | Goundy | unop no :s only my local machines and my router I don't understand wtf is going there |
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| 22:53.48 | unop | Goundy, and your gentoo machine has no problems? |
| 22:53.57 | kgoetz | removes 2.5 |
| 22:54.05 | Goundy | unop no no problems |
| 22:54.07 | n8ature | hello, im when i try to rebuild the debian kernel package, I get a message about ABI has changed and refuses to continue. I am following these instructions and it mentions ABI changes but its unclear what I need to do. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianKernelCustomCompilation any ideas? |
| 22:54.10 | efaistos | mu brother just installed a fresh debian ... bt the system is rebooting as soon as you log in ... any idea ? |
| 22:54.12 | unop | Goundy, wait. did you bind mount /var into the chroot too? |
| 22:54.17 | Goundy | unop yes |
| 22:54.18 | Goundy | I did |
| 22:54.33 | unop | Goundy, you need to undo that - that's what's causing these problems |
| 22:54.38 | Goundy | ah |
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| 22:54.50 | unop | Goundy, the problems with apt i.e. not sure about your connectivity tho |
| 22:55.25 | Goundy | unop I undid it. Now, the problem is connectivity that's very weird ha :-) |
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| 22:55.35 | unop | Goundy, now your gentoo's /var has the directories we created |
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| 22:56.00 | unop | Goundy, does host google.com give you anything? |
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| 22:56.28 | Goundy | unop no nothing :( |
| 22:56.36 | Goundy | ; connection timed out; no servers could be reached |
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| 22:56.52 | unop | Goundy, what's in /etc/resolv.conf ? |
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| 22:57.15 | Goundy | ah |
| 22:57.25 | Goundy | nameserver 10.9.0.2 |
| 22:57.30 | unop | heh? |
| 22:57.49 | unop | Goundy, you could bind mount /etc/resolv.conf from gentoo into debian |
| 22:58.03 | Goundy | ok |
| 22:58.20 | Goundy | mount -o bind /etc/ debian/etc ? |
| 22:58.25 | Goundy | mount -o bind /etc/resolv.conf debian/etc ? |
| 22:58.37 | unop | Goundy, errm, not the first one |
| 22:58.45 | Goundy | yeah I know :P |
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| 22:59.09 | unop | Goundy, i prefer to be explicit. mount --bind /etc/resolv.conf /path/to/chroot/etc/resolv.conf |
| 22:59.42 | Goundy | unop you rox baby |
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| 22:59.56 | Goundy | unop can I give you a kiss there ? |
| 23:00.09 | unop | Goundy, only if you're a pretty woman |
| 23:00.16 | Goundy | unop forget about it ^^ |
| 23:00.21 | Goundy | thank you man :) |
| 23:00.24 | unop | Goundy, yw |
| 23:00.36 | Goundy | I was about to reinstall my system. LOL |
| 23:00.50 | Goundy | Damn... You can't imagine how I love Linux ! |
| 23:00.56 | unop | Goundy, forget that windows philosophy :) |
| 23:01.04 | Goundy | yeah of course :-) |
| 23:01.08 | unop | a reinstall is the lazy way out |
| 23:01.14 | Goundy | Indeed. |
| 23:02.15 | unop | Goundy, don't forget to clean up /var on gentoo tho |
| 23:02.27 | unop | Goundy, we did create some dirs within it |
| 23:02.43 | Goundy | unop already done. Thank you boy :-) |
| 23:03.02 | unop | now onto my issue .. |
| 23:03.04 | Goundy | unop just a question: Should I umount my bind mounts after I'll have finished working ? |
| 23:03.14 | Goundy | Or can I let the kernel clear it when halting ? |
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| 23:03.35 | unop | Goundy, i prefer to clean up my mess - i would do that - but you don't have to |
| 23:03.50 | Goundy | ok ok thanks you very much. |
| 23:04.56 | unop | Device to unmount is not in /media/.hal-mtab so it is not mounted by HAL . how do i have a device be mounted by HAL ? i use pmount-hal to mount the device already, so i'm missing something ... |
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| 23:06.20 | Goundy | unop I'd have been glad to help but I really have no idea on what you're asking for :/ Sorry... |
| 23:06.26 | MXIIA | chown root:root / would this be harmful? |
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| 23:06.57 | unop | Goundy, no worries |
| 23:07.42 | unop | MXIIA, it wouldn't change anything - but why do that anyway? |
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| 23:08.11 | MXIIA | unop, would it prevent people from going into ftp and messing w/ stuff (because now people that go into ftp can access anything) |
| 23:08.13 | eddieBB | Goundy: gftp is only letting me transfer one file at a time. is there a certain way to accomplish this that i'm not seeing? |
| 23:08.46 | MXIIA | eddieBB, hold shift and use the arrow keys to select multiple files |
| 23:08.54 | Goundy | eddieBB oh damn I gave you a wrong solution gftp doesn't. I think I confused with filezilla :/ |
| 23:08.59 | Goundy | Sorry man... was my mistake |
| 23:09.01 | unop | MXIIA, look into some documentation that relates to securing your FTP server |
| 23:09.05 | MXIIA | ok |
| 23:09.12 | MXIIA | will do, thanks |
| 23:09.27 | eddieBB | Goundy: np, i'll try filezilla |
| 23:10.01 | RageOfThou | blaa |
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| 23:12.41 | Goundy | Guys, can someone give me its sources.list for lenny ? |
| 23:12.52 | Goundy | Thanks in advance. |
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| 23:14.27 | orgthingy | /dev/hello |
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| 23:17.56 | jfm3 | Hello #debian! I need to understand whether or not software released into the Public Domain (http://common-lisp.net/project/alexandria/darcs/alexandria/LICENCE) fits into the DFSG. |
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| 23:18.18 | qq- | Goundy:deb http://ftp.ch.debian.org/debian lenny main contrib non-free |
| 23:18.24 | jfm3 | I'm willing to spend some time on this, but IANAL and I'm not sure what the right things to check are. |
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| 23:19.11 | Goundy | qq- that's all ? |
| 23:19.17 | Goundy | http://rafb.net/p/zTXdd161.html |
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| 23:19.34 | Goundy | I've this but seems some depots are bad |
| 23:19.48 | qq- | sources.list for lenny |
| 23:21.09 | qq- | !tell Goundy about sources.list |
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| 23:22.58 | firebird619 | This maybe isn't the right channel to ask this in, but what would be the most probable cause of a computer's power light blinking rapidly and it not turning on. I just tried a different power supply with no luck. I know that it could also be the motherboard, but RAM could also cause this issue couldn't it. It is just a standard system, video is on-board, audio is onboard, etc. The only PCI card in it is the modem, so there isn't much to |
| 23:23.23 | Asymmetry_ | mdadm is my friend. |
| 23:23.57 | Asymmetry_ | firebird619, how many RAM modules do you have installed? |
| 23:24.39 | Goundy | qq- your !tell is telling me just what I already know lol. I mean I want the correct lenny depot urls... I edited my etch sources.list by changing etch occurences to lenny. Seems to be a wrong method |
| 23:24.42 | rvsjoen | afaik you usually get power and maybe some beeping if it is the memory |
| 23:24.53 | firebird619 | Asymmetry_: Just one, it only has 256 for RAM. |
| 23:25.00 | phorce1 | firebird619: remove everything that is not needed to get the box to POST (unplug ALL drives, remove that PCI card, and remove all but 1 stick of RAM) |
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| 23:27.13 | firebird619 | phorce1: It only has 1 stick of RAM to begin with, but I can try unplugging all the drives though and see what it does |
| 23:28.24 | phorce1 | firebird619: yep -- unplug everything. If it still fails then you need to get 1 known good stick of RAM to test with. If that fails -- you're done |
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| 23:29.39 | firebird619 | phorce1: Ok, Thanks for your help. |
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| 23:30.13 | qq- | Goundy: just keep one line for deb-src : deb http://security comment others , and re do "apt-get update " |
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| 23:31.34 | Goundy | qq- ah okay |
| 23:31.37 | sandman | I was wondering: In the case of using software RAID with Debian, what happens if one of the drives fail? Will the system freeze up? |
| 23:31.37 | Goundy | thanks |
| 23:31.45 | qq- | sure keep this one >> deb http://ftp.debian.skynet.be/ftp/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free |
| 23:31.55 | sandman | That is, assuming I'm using RAID 1 across two drives. |
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| 23:33.00 | qq- | Goundy: np |
| 23:33.09 | pertain | sandman: no, it won't freeze. |
| 23:33.10 | n8ature | sandman: nope, it will show as failed when you run this command: cat /proc/mdstat |
| 23:34.04 | spychalski | !tell spychalski about apt-spy |
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| 23:35.27 | Asymmetry | I'm noticing what may be a minor bug in Lenny. |
| 23:35.47 | Asymmetry | The update notification icon says that there are updates available, but when selected, it indicates that there are none. |
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| 23:36.58 | xann | Hello I am trying to add a disk to my raid created with mdadm but it gives me this error: "mdadm: add new device failed for /dev/sdb1 as 2: Invalid argument" |
| 23:37.23 | Asymmetry | xann, What RAID level? |
| 23:37.45 | qq- | Asymmetry: Lenny is freeze , so no new updates , i tho |
| 23:37.47 | dondelelcaro | Asymmetry: see #485669 |
| 23:37.53 | dondelelcaro | qq-: there are always bug fixes |
| 23:38.06 | qq- | dondelelcaro: nice |
| 23:38.07 | dondelelcaro | (but it's unlikely that such a minor bug will be fixed) |
| 23:38.15 | dondelelcaro | well, in time for lenny release, anyway |
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| 23:38.41 | xann | Asymmetry: raid 0 |
| 23:38.49 | Asymmetry | xann, Can't do that. |
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| 23:39.32 | xann | Asymmetry: ok, i will need to destory this md0 and create it again right? |
| 23:39.43 | qq- | xand: anyway /dev/sdb1 is only a partition , not a disc |
| 23:40.00 | Asymmetry | qq-, that's how mdadm works. |
| 23:40.11 | qq- | ah, ok |
| 23:40.21 | Asymmetry | Partitions are reserved for RAID use. Partition type 0xFD, RAID reserved. |
| 23:40.39 | Asymmetry | xann, Yes, unfortunately. mdadm doesn't do restriping of RAID0 arrays. |
| 23:40.48 | xann | ok thanks |
| 23:41.35 | sandman | If I'm using RAID 1, and a drive fails, what's the easiest way to rebuild the raid 1 array after adding a new non-broken drive? |
| 23:41.50 | Asymmetry | sandman, using mdadm? |
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| 23:42.03 | sandman | Is there some sort of mdadm --"rebuild sdb from sda to rebuild the raid" command? |
| 23:42.26 | nmourey | Can I ask questions about lenny here? |
| 23:42.30 | Asymmetry | sandman, fail the bad drive, if you haven't already, then remove it from the array using mdadm. Then, add the new drive to the array. |
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| 23:42.54 | sandman | If I add te drive to the raid1 array, it'll just automagically rebuild the data? |
| 23:42.57 | sandman | On the new drive, I mean? |
| 23:43.12 | sandman | But how does it know which drive to build the data from? |
| 23:43.21 | sandman | Actually, n/m. I just wanted to know if it were possible |
| 23:43.32 | sandman | I take it the answer is yes. I will read about this later, thank you very much =) |
| 23:44.23 | Asymmetry | sandman, it knows automatically, yes. |
| 23:44.34 | Asymmetry | sandman, as soon as you add the new drive, it'll start rebuilding it in the background. |
| 23:44.47 | dustybin | at home i have about 5 installs of debian lenny, what could i use to perform a apt-get upgrade across all systems, and what other tools could i use to keep things uniform, like configs etc ? |
| 23:44.48 | sandman | That sure is fantastic. |
| 23:45.03 | Asymmetry | sandman, As it's recovering, you can cat /proc/mdstat to see the progress. |
| 23:45.03 | sandman | In other news, I had heard that some prefer Linux MD over a hardware raid card. |
| 23:45.09 | sandman | I find this hard to believe, so. I thought I'd ask in here |
| 23:45.12 | Asymmetry | sandman, I do. |
| 23:45.20 | sandman | Really |
| 23:45.22 | Asymmetry | sandman, Yes. |
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| 23:45.36 | Asymmetry | sandman, I deal with hardware RAID at work. I just started using Linux MD today, and oh my God. |
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| 23:45.55 | nmourey | Well, here we go: I have lenny installed running. I am installing Oracle 11g. While it is linking it quited with and error about not finding the symbols 'nnfyboot'. I have searched all over and have not been able to find a lib with that symbol. I was able to install it on ubuntu 8.04 thou. Ideas? |
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| 23:47.01 | dam85 | hello everybody |
| 23:47.09 | dam85 | how can i set which JVM to use? |
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| 23:47.30 | dam85 | i don't remember the commanda |
| 23:47.54 | nmourey | dam85 : man -k alternatives |
| 23:48.09 | dam85 | update-alternatives |
| 23:48.11 | dam85 | right? |
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| 23:52.27 | prolix | nmourey: have you tried this: http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Comp/comp.databases.oracle.misc/2005-09/msg00501.html |
| 23:52.55 | nmourey | prolix : no, I will look at it now. |
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| 23:57.50 | nmourey | prolix: I have already tried "nm * | grep | nnfyboot" in the ORACLE_HOME/lib dir. It is not there. I'm going to keep looking though. |
| 23:58.33 | nmourey | prolix: All the libs are stripped. :( |
| 23:58.41 | rgr | What is best way to locate settings for a certain program? in this case I need to know where the corrupt settings for banshee are. |
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| 23:59.29 | prolix | nmourey: i've never seen a grep used with two pipes and no expression before |
| 23:59.36 | prolix | nmourey: either way, good luck |
