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| 00:01.19 | Piper69 | howdy |
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| 00:04.38 | Piper69 | i am running into a little issue and want suggestion please. i am running Debian Etch and nothing changed since last week, i am using a wireless connection everything is the same. but when i ping my Debian int 192.168.1.102 from another box i loose every other packet |
| 00:04.48 | neoice | whats the easiesy way to get one lenny package? just grab the deb? |
| 00:05.00 | themill | neoice: are you running etch? |
| 00:05.02 | neoice | yep |
| 00:05.06 | themill | dpkg: tell neoice about ssb |
| 00:05.29 | themill | neoice: look at backports.org or make your own backport. Grabbing a package directly from lenny is unlikely to work. |
| 00:06.18 | acidfreeze | what is the best to use for benchmarking my video card, besides glxgears |
| 00:06.47 | themill | dpkg: tell acidfreeze about repeat |
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| 00:08.07 | ukatan | so... I've managed to put myself in quite a situation. |
| 00:08.31 | Mordocai | ukatan: ooh, what'd you do? |
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| 00:08.39 | Mordocai | just got out of a situation :P |
| 00:08.44 | ukatan | I did an 'apt-get autoremove' and saw that it wanted to remove sudo, so I unlocked my root account, or so I thought. |
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| 00:08.50 | ukatan | then I proceeded to finish uninstalling |
| 00:09.03 | ukatan | and when I went to su -, I found out the root account is expired. |
| 00:09.06 | ukatan | so. |
| 00:09.11 | ukatan | I have no root access on my own system. |
| 00:09.15 | themill | dpkg: tell ukatan about ifrp |
| 00:09.44 | ukatan | oh man, I <3 this channel. |
| 00:09.47 | ukatan | thanks themill |
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| 00:10.04 | themill | np |
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| 00:12.38 | charlie5 | dmoerner: thanks once again ... it looks like the mini.iso has been read ok ... the install is now d/ling packages, and looks to be fine :) |
| 00:14.49 | rebel_kid | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:15.07 | rahsputin | I just built a 2.6.27.2 Kernel and Modules... i would like to add the vmlinuz to /boot/grub/menu.lst .... must i do mkinitrd to get the kernel to work or can i just add the initrd for/from my "former" kernel to boot the new kernel ? |
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| 00:16.59 | enouf | you built it wrong |
| 00:17.14 | rahsputin | enouf why ? |
| 00:17.37 | slim_ | hello all, i try to install debian lenny after the first selection of install menu i got message from my monitor " Not optimum Mode Recommended Mode 1680x1050 60HZ " |
| 00:17.50 | enouf | do /msg kp mantra |
| 00:18.10 | rahsputin | enouf was that for me ? |
| 00:18.22 | enouf | rahsputin: yes |
| 00:18.37 | rahsputin | enouf why did i build it wrong ? |
| 00:18.50 | enouf | you can mix/match initrds, no guarantees though |
| 00:18.57 | enouf | do /msg kp mantra |
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| 00:19.35 | enouf | do /msg dpkg kernel-package |
| 00:19.45 | enouf | dpkg: kernel-package |
| 00:19.45 | dpkg | To compile a kernel The Debian Way(tm) "apt-get install kernel-package build-essential libncurses5-dev" and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz; You should also ask me about <make-kpkg> and <kp mantra>, or just http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html.en, or <kernel build-deps> |
| 00:20.33 | rahsputin | oh, ok i get it "kp mantra" i thought that mantra was a person here lol |
| 00:20.36 | rahsputin | thanx |
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| 00:22.56 | ukatan | ok, so I think I'm still in said situation. |
| 00:23.07 | b-04 | what is the alternative for fireworks or photoshop? |
| 00:23.09 | ukatan | I followed the instructions dpkg gave me but I still get the error about the account being expired |
| 00:23.18 | ukatan | I tried passwd -u root, too |
| 00:23.23 | ukatan | followed by setting a password |
| 00:23.26 | ukatan | no luck :/ |
| 00:23.34 | enouf | rahsputin: in real world terms you can build your own, and even without initrd, but you better know what you're doing - and my bad - i forgot to add "dpkg" in my /msg commands |
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| 00:25.47 | enouf | rahsputin: IOW, /msg dpkg <factoid> |
| 00:26.15 | mimcpher | Y'know, rather than telling somebody to /msg dpkg its usually just as easy to use !tell |
| 00:27.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | mimcpher, but telling them to /msg the bot is preferred because it teaches them how to find out things from the bot before asking here |
| 00:27.03 | enouf | ahh shaddup |
| 00:27.14 | enouf | i'm drunk you weenie |
| 00:27.44 | enouf | and look at my past history before you shoot off you bozo mouth |
| 00:28.04 | kdubois | when i hit alt-f it opens up the file menu, because F in file is underlined. This is breaking a lot of blender shortcuts for me. how do i disable that? |
| 00:28.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | enouf, you have a long past history of being drunk? |
| 00:28.47 | enouf | yes |
| 00:29.02 | blast_hardcheese | If you're not supposed to restart to fix a problem, how do you kill processes that hang other processes that try to kill them? |
| 00:29.05 | mimcpher | Drunkenness is one of the better states of consciousness |
| 00:29.06 | enouf | and i perform my best then |
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| 00:29.17 | blast_hardcheese | For example, killall and shutdown are both hung because Gnome crashed |
| 00:29.29 | blast_hardcheese | I still have a couple virtual terminals left |
| 00:29.33 | ukatan | ..what |
| 00:29.39 | ukatan | blast_hardcheese, hit ctrl-alt-F1 |
| 00:29.42 | ukatan | not yet |
| 00:29.56 | ukatan | to get back to X do alt-f7 |
| 00:30.13 | blast_hardcheese | what are you trying to get me to do |
| 00:30.13 | ukatan | whoops might have just caused some headaches :x |
| 00:30.16 | ukatan | phew |
| 00:30.17 | enouf | blast_hardcheese: 'telinit 1' |
| 00:30.22 | ukatan | what he said |
| 00:30.25 | blast_hardcheese | enouf: Awesome, thanks |
| 00:30.36 | ukatan | can someone tell me how to un-expire an account |
| 00:30.51 | ukatan | passwd -u and usermod -U both fail to work |
| 00:31.00 | blast_hardcheese | enouf: That has also frozen |
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| 00:31.27 | enouf | blast_hardcheese: oh well - the ADB must be taking a bite out of life :-P |
| 00:31.46 | blast_hardcheese | >:| |
| 00:31.48 | mimcpher | ukatan, change the expire date to something in the distant future |
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| 00:32.15 | mimcpher | ukatan, usermod -e 9999-01-01 should do it |
| 00:32.22 | enouf | blast_hardcheese: do you know about sysrq? |
| 00:32.31 | blast_hardcheese | enouf: Nope |
| 00:32.48 | enouf | !tell blast_hardcheese -about sysrq |
| 00:32.53 | ukatan | mimcpher, alright hang on one sec in case I meet the same level of success with this |
| 00:33.24 | blast_hardcheese | *$@#$% |
| 00:33.33 | blast_hardcheese | I don't have a printscreen key, I'm on a laptop |
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| 00:33.41 | cads | after building and loading a new module for a wireless usb adaptor, can I manually redetect hardware and restart the network using init.d scripts? |
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| 00:34.11 | enouf | you do when you press ALT+Shift or Fn or something |
| 00:34.13 | mimcpher | blast_hardcheese, do you still have a working root terminal? You can send keys another way |
| 00:34.14 | enouf | you weenie |
| 00:34.41 | blast_hardcheese | enouf: Oh right, forgot that alt+shift magically makes whatever keys I have into other keys I need |
| 00:34.53 | blast_hardcheese | mimcpher: negative |
| 00:35.03 | blast_hardcheese | I have a working terminal, sudo and su both fail me |
| 00:35.14 | enouf | !craptop |
| 00:35.16 | blast_hardcheese | Actually, I have exactly one working terminal left |
| 00:35.20 | enouf | ;-) |
| 00:35.25 | blast_hardcheese | enouf: bite me, it looks sweet ;) |
| 00:35.35 | blast_hardcheese | (the only real reason to go for Apple hardware) |
| 00:35.36 | enouf | is gorgeous |
| 00:35.37 | ukatan | heh, ironically mimcpher usermod is smart enough to not let you set it more than like a hundred years into the future |
| 00:35.53 | mimcpher | Well then set it to whatever the max is :P |
| 00:36.05 | blast_hardcheese | oh sh- |
| 00:36.09 | blast_hardcheese | Root terminal just opened up |
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| 00:36.16 | blast_hardcheese | winsauce |
| 00:36.23 | blast_hardcheese | What should I do? |
| 00:36.56 | blast_hardcheese | I got impatient and telinit 1'd |
| 00:36.57 | blast_hardcheese | that worked |
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| 00:37.29 | enouf | takes some power back from blast_hardcheese |
| 00:37.45 | blast_hardcheese | crap |
| 00:37.48 | mimcpher | Alright. you can also do "echo b > /proc/sysrq-trigger" where b is the key you want. |
| 00:38.03 | mimcpher | In the future, if you need it. |
| 00:38.28 | blast_hardcheese | Well, I'm screwed, it looks like the hardware is having a midlife crisis, |
| 00:38.33 | blast_hardcheese | I'm hung on Stopping Bluetooth |
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| 00:39.23 | blast_hardcheese | and crap, I need to run. Time for work. |
| 00:39.32 | blast_hardcheese | Thanks guys |
| 00:39.34 | ukatan | alright!' |
| 00:39.36 | enouf | blast_hardcheese: it seems time for an email to mr jobd |
| 00:39.39 | ukatan | mimcpher, thanks for that one |
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| 00:40.46 | enouf | Mr jobs: your shit sucks ass - keep poopin' |
| 00:41.13 | blast_hardcheese | enouf: email sent |
| 00:41.14 | blast_hardcheese | ;) |
| 00:41.18 | blast_hardcheese | is out |
| 00:41.23 | enouf | heh |
| 00:42.53 | H2S04 | !tell enouf |
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| 00:50.20 | Tarabai | whats goin on here?? |
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| 00:50.47 | funky | does anyone know why iceweasel is not able to list extensions trhough its manager ? |
| 00:50.48 | Zambezi | I had to install Ubuntu on another harddrive and that worked fine and I'm done with my work, but now my encrypted LVM with Lenny is far from happy. Grub error 5 on boot. Ubuntu overwrote grub so how on earth can I fix this? Putting a new harddrive in, install Lenny (encrypted LVM) and then put the main harddrive back? |
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| 00:55.44 | Tramp | Zambezi: I don't understand, what you did. If your /root is encrypted, you need a seperate /boot. The error you report comes from the grub stage2 (i.e. the part that is loaded from /boot). Which /boot are you using now? |
| 00:56.30 | Tramp | Zambezi: or, instead of answering my last question, explain what exectly you did. |
| 00:56.58 | Tramp | (and with /root in my first statement I meant /) |
| 00:57.41 | Zambezi | Tramp, I had Lenny on encrypted LVM on hda. I installed Ubuntu on hdb to easier make a backup between truecrypt-partion and LUKS. Then I removed hdb with Ubuntu and then I'm getting grub error 5 and when I connect hdb, Ubuntu boots, but no sign of Lenny. |
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| 00:58.49 | Tramp | hdb is a removable disk? |
| 00:58.56 | dondelelcaro | Zambezi: do you have a separate boot for lenny? Did you use lilo for lenny instead of grub? |
| 00:59.01 | Zambezi | Tramp, Yes. |
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| 01:00.18 | Zambezi | dondelelcaro, Yes. And lilo, not sure. I think Ubuntu did something to the bootloader, but when I remove hdb (with Ubuntu) it's no difference. |
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| 01:06.50 | Tramp | Zambezi: I'd reinstall grub on hda to make lenny bootable again. Then add an entry in your menu.lst for the other OS |
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| 01:07.32 | mike-solidus | hey, i'm using lenny, i've installed apache2 and php5 but php5 is not bieng initialized when apache starts, how do i manually go in and enable it |
| 01:08.37 | Zambezi | Tramp, It's hda, hda1, hda2, hda5 so it seems untouched. I'm going to check tomorrow. It's 03.10 here so I need to sleep. Thanks for help. |
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| 01:23.30 | deface | hmm .. anyone mind grepping Debian-exim in passwd |
| 01:23.45 | deface | i deleted the user, cause im using postfix, not exim .. but seems some packages still use that uid/gid |
| 01:23.54 | deface | not sure which package creates it |
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| 01:25.48 | superjoe30 | I'm trying to find my broadcom wireless driver file in vista - anyone know where it is? |
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| 01:27.39 | TiMiDo | hey |
| 01:27.54 | TiMiDo | i have a question Build of the package nvidia-kernel-source failed! How do â |
| 01:27.54 | TiMiDo | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:27.58 | TiMiDo | can someone guide me? |
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| 01:28.19 | deface | close your eyes, and hold my hand |
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| 01:28.51 | APX | Hi, when I cat /proc/net/tcp, I'm seeing a sock in TCP_SYN_RECV state in the port 80, should be apache, but its UID is 0, do anyone knows why?? |
| 01:30.02 | deface | you got pwned |
| 01:30.25 | pdenapo | I was looking at the wanna-build states in www.buildd.net. It seems that many packages that are already built are in the state "building", but no mantainer has already verified that. This is specially true for packages for some "exotic" arquitectures like "hppa" (with 175 overdue packages), but causes dealasys for packages migrating from unstable to testing. Shouldn't be a system less dependent of the architecture mantainer given ok? |
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| 01:31.01 | APX | Its not my box :P^ |
| 01:31.44 | APX | what U're saying its that Apache is running as root? |
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| 01:33.37 | APX | naa, I cant read /etc/shadow from it, so apache != root |
| 01:33.43 | TiMiDo | hey anyone in here can help me with this error ? http://pastebin.ca/1234316 |
| 01:33.55 | deface | APX: was a joke, mine says the same thing |
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| 01:34.58 | deface | TiMiDo: nothing useful in that paste |
| 01:35.14 | TiMiDo | deface, im actually trying to installed the nvidia module. |
| 01:35.22 | TiMiDo | and on the make is giving me that crap |
| 01:36.02 | deface | TiMiDo: http://rafb.net/p/lOocY346.html |
| 01:36.27 | TiMiDo | deface, the thing is i recompiled my own kerne |
| 01:36.29 | TiMiDo | *kernel |
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| 01:37.18 | TiMiDo | i actually got that error doing m-a a-i nvidia |
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| 01:38.18 | TiMiDo | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:38.24 | TiMiDo | im getting that error deface |
| 01:38.39 | deface | why did it fail |
| 01:38.44 | deface | i see no failure's in your paste |
| 01:38.50 | TiMiDo | that's why i've pasted it on pastebin |
| 01:39.20 | deface | http://pastebin.ca/1234316 .. has no errors |
| 01:39.23 | deface | what kernel are you running ? |
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| 01:41.26 | TiMiDo | deface, 2.6.27.2darkplanet |
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| 01:42.27 | deface | nvidia-kernel-2.6.26-1-686 |
| 01:42.40 | TiMiDo | deface, i have my kernel sources. |
| 01:42.47 | deface | nvidia-kernel has to be the same as your current kernel |
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| 01:42.55 | deface | atleast im pretty sure they do |
| 01:43.01 | TiMiDo | hmm okey |
| 01:43.09 | deface | someone please correct me |
| 01:43.15 | deface | all my debian boxes are headless |
| 01:43.33 | TiMiDo | who knows. |
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| 01:43.58 | TiMiDo | well not much to freaking do. |
| 01:44.34 | TiMiDo | deface, i have another question. everytime i reboot my system. the alsa does not start up i have to do alsaconf as root everytime i've boot and is getting annoying |
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| 01:45.15 | deface | checked in /etc/default/ ? |
| 01:45.29 | deface | any alsa files? .. once again, my debian boxes are servers.. no video or sound |
| 01:46.24 | TiMiDo | deface, the alsa is there |
| 01:46.24 | deface | any enable options? 0 to 1 ? |
| 01:46.24 | TiMiDo | deface, im going to pasted it to you on pastebin.ca |
| 01:46.30 | deface | k |
| 01:46.39 | TiMiDo | http://pastebin.ca/1234329 |
| 01:46.40 | TiMiDo | there it is |
| 01:47.50 | deface | and you ran alsactl store ? |
| 01:48.12 | TiMiDo | yes i do |
| 01:48.17 | deface | once you get your levels up |
| 01:48.27 | TiMiDo | they are up =) |
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| 01:51.22 | bilbo82 | hi, I need some help with autofs. I can mount my external ntfs drive but I can't access the folder that autofs creates |
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| 01:51.49 | bilbo82 | any suggestions? |
| 01:51.57 | ham5 | no permission? |
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| 01:53.12 | bilbo82 | i've set the following permission -fstype=ntfs,ro,gid=100,umask=002 :/dev/disk/by-uuid/9E9EFB7B9EFB4A73 |
| 01:53.24 | bilbo82 | the folder only exists when the device is auto mounted |
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| 01:54.20 | bilbo82 | i've pretty much run out of options i'm not sure what to do |
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| 01:54.53 | ham5 | your in group id 100? |
| 01:54.59 | bilbo82 | yes |
| 01:55.08 | deface | ntfs3g ftw |
| 01:55.24 | bilbo82 | deface: what do you mean? |
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| 01:55.46 | ham5 | ntfs3g tkes over on mine when I just set ntfs |
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| 01:56.37 | ham5 | try just setting your uid=1000 or what ever you are dont use a gid or umask |
| 01:57.01 | yitz_ | I thought they sorta locked Etch until the Lenny release... but I just got a bunch of updates. So, what is locked and what's not? |
| 01:57.22 | bilbo82 | ham5: i will try that thanks |
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| 01:57.58 | ham5 | or just 'defaults' |
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| 01:59.15 | bilbo82 | ham5: do you have an external drive (ntfs) working on yours similarly? |
| 01:59.27 | ham5 | internel ntfs |
| 01:59.41 | ham5 | I dont use autofs just have it in my fstab |
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| 02:00.20 | ham5 | options n such seem to be the same |
| 02:02.56 | bilbo82 | ham5: that didn't work. I noticed that it tries to use the product name as the key for the mount map. In this case its creating a device on the desktop with "My Book" |
| 02:03.05 | bilbo82 | but I can't access the folder under /media/ where it mounts it |
| 02:03.46 | ham5 | can you right click and goto properties and check what permissions it has? |
| 02:03.56 | ham5 | can you access it as root? |
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| 02:05.04 | LemensTS | Does dansguardian work as a cache proxy too? |
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| 02:06.05 | rebel_kid | im trying the command scp -p id_rsa.pub remoteuser@remotehost: how can i specify a port other than 22? |
| 02:06.18 | taime1 | oddly "apt-get upgrade <package>" wants to update the whole system.. did i miss something? |
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| 02:07.20 | ham5 | LemensTS, 'DansGuardian requires squid or another similar caching proxy server on your local network.' So... I'd say no. |
| 02:08.20 | Tramp | rebel_kid: man scp, search for "port" |
| 02:08.22 | ham5 | rebel_kid, -P [port] |
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| 02:08.49 | ham5 | rebel_kid, man scp :\... scp [-pqrvBC46 ] [-F ssh_config ] [-S program ] [-P port ] [-c cipher ] [-i identity_file ] [-o ssh_option ] [[user@ ] host1 : file1 ] [... ] [[user@ ] host2 : file2 ] |
| 02:08.50 | rebel_kid | ty |
| 02:09.03 | bilbo82 | ham5: it only has root read only access |
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| 02:10.07 | ham5 | bilbo82, so id say its something with your mount settings, try doing it by mount skip that autofs for now |
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| 02:10.28 | bilbo82 | ham5: alright thanks |
| 02:10.37 | ham5 | lots and doc on mount and /etc/fstab |
| 02:10.46 | ham5 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:15.34 | Jac1d | Evening all. Does anyone know where on /proc or /sys or other similar location that I could find the current IP address of a given interface? |
| 02:15.50 | Jac1d | I seem to be able to get virtually everything except the IP address that I see when I run ifconfig |
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| 02:31.55 | b-04 | hi |
| 02:31.57 | b-04 | how to view |
| 02:32.08 | b-04 | to info if my ram memory |
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| 02:32.25 | b-04 | i need see the info ddr ram memori |
| 02:32.28 | b-04 | the bus info |
| 02:32.39 | ham5 | its not in english... |
| 02:32.41 | ham5 | ;) |
| 02:35.03 | LemensTS | b-04: top and hwinfo ? |
| 02:35.51 | b-04 | Mem: 906472k total, 895324k used, 11148k free, 6972k buffers |
| 02:35.55 | b-04 | what is the bus? :P |
| 02:36.17 | b-04 | buffer, |
| 02:36.19 | b-04 | is ddr2? |
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| 02:36.34 | CompWizrd | lshw works nicely for that |
| 02:36.44 | csilk | anyone know how I can pass the boot parameter pci=nomsi before grub loads? |
| 02:37.09 | ham5 | grub is the first thing to load, is that possible? |
| 02:37.22 | csilk | didnt think it was |
| 02:37.32 | beardy | No. An even if it was, what are you passing it to? |
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| 02:37.42 | csilk | good point |
| 02:37.45 | ham5 | haha |
| 02:37.49 | csilk | what the hell was I thinking -_- |
| 02:37.52 | ham5 | way to think it threw ;) |
| 02:37.57 | csilk | i'll blame on the fact its 4am |
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| 02:38.03 | beardy | :) |
| 02:38.34 | csilk | ok, what i should of asked... how can i pass the pci=nomsi boot parameter to grub? |
| 02:39.01 | beardy | csilk: Do you really mean, pass it to the kernel you boot, from/with grub? |
| 02:39.16 | csilk | That would be a good assumption |
| 02:40.03 | beardy | csilk: If you always want it, you put it in your menu.lst. |
| 02:40.22 | csilk | beardy, yeah , cant get passed grub without that boot parameter |
| 02:40.37 | csilk | I'll add it to menu.lst when I managed to boot |
| 02:40.46 | csilk | *manage |
| 02:40.59 | b-04 | Linux b-04 2.6.18-6-486 #1 Tue Jun 17 20:57:16 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 02:41.03 | rebel_kid | how can i find out what device i am connected to such as eth0 |
| 02:41.05 | b-04 | is for a 486 pc ? |
| 02:41.59 | ham5 | b-04, ud have to check the config to be for sure |
| 02:42.09 | csilk | beardy, no worries, man pages ftw, grub allows you to edit kernal parameters by pressing e ;) |
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| 02:42.44 | ham5 | rebel_kid, just ifconfig will list adapters that are up |
| 02:43.18 | beardy | csilk: Yes. |
| 02:43.47 | beardy | csilk: Though, I don't recall if you can edit, or have to fill in everything yourself. |
| 02:44.06 | ham5 | can edit |
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| 02:45.01 | beardy | rebel_kid: You know which ip address you are connected to, I hope? |
| 02:45.23 | rebel_kid | beardy, yes i do :) public and private |
| 02:45.32 | beardy | rebel_kid: '/sbin/ifconfig' tells you which interface has which address. |
| 02:45.54 | rebel_kid | cool, i already found it :) |
| 02:46.11 | beardy | Oh.. yes, I missed that it was already answered. |
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| 02:49.27 | rebel_kid | im setting up no-ip, my new router changes ip's daily instead of keeping it until its restarted |
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| 02:50.33 | dudeman | I have ddwrt on my linksys |
| 02:50.41 | dudeman | I use dyndns.com |
| 02:50.52 | dudeman | they have less ads |
| 02:51.33 | Wyzard | rebel_kid: I use dyndns as well, and the "ez-ipupdate" package to update the record |
| 02:52.15 | dudeman | Wyzard, ddwrt has all these built in |
| 02:52.26 | Wyzard | sure, but my router runs Debian, not ddwrt |
| 02:52.28 | dudeman | various services |
| 02:52.48 | dudeman | Wyzard, well no everyone can be running a small hacked unit |
| 02:53.22 | Wyzard | (I do have a WRT54GL running OpenWRT, but I use it as a plain bridged wireless access point, not a router) |
| 02:53.29 | dudeman | ah |
| 02:53.45 | dudeman | I had to turn of 4 machines |
| 02:53.45 | Wyzard | The router is a a small low-power PC running Debian |
| 02:53.53 | dudeman | electricity in nyc is insanely expensive |
| 02:53.57 | dudeman | like you have no idea |
| 02:54.03 | Wyzard | several instances of it, in fact, on Xen |
| 02:54.09 | dudeman | word |
| 02:54.17 | dudeman | thats what I do now |
| 02:54.20 | Wyzard | draws about 30 watts |
| 02:54.26 | dudeman | I beefed up my system and I am using 4 VM on it |
| 02:54.28 | Wyzard | more than a Linksys appliance, but still not bad |
| 02:54.38 | dudeman | not bad |
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| 02:58.52 | dudeman | *sigh* ahhhh boy |
| 02:59.10 | dudeman | battling the misery of organon... |
| 02:59.12 | Mordocai | Okay, fresh debian install using etchnhalf and the first etch DVD for some more packages, and i already have two linux distros set up. I wasn't really sure about the grub configuration, and didn't put root= after the kernel. Could this be the reason why i'm having error messages at startup? and if so, what should root=? (hd0,7) is the partition grub is going to for the kernel. |
| 02:59.18 | dudeman | debian |
| 02:59.40 | dudeman | root=/ |
| 02:59.44 | dudeman | where ever your / is |
| 02:59.58 | dudeman | if its on hd0,partition0 it would be hd(0,0) |
| 03:00.16 | dudeman | if on disk1 partition 7, then you would use hd(0,7) |
| 03:00.18 | dudeman | etc. |
| 03:00.24 | Mordocai | okay, so for me it should be root=/(hd0,7)? |
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| 03:00.26 | dudeman | no |
| 03:00.42 | dudeman | not a slash, i wante dto show you that root = /whereyour / tree is |
| 03:00.48 | dudeman | you need partition not / |
| 03:01.05 | dudeman | root=hd(0,1) <== this format |
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| 03:01.43 | napoleon | !ati |
| 03:01.44 | dpkg | To use an ATI graphics card with Debian, ask me about <fglrx>, <radeon>, and <radeonhd>. |
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| 03:02.50 | dudeman | napoleon, actually on second thought |
| 03:02.52 | dudeman | er.. |
| 03:03.08 | dudeman | Mordocai, actually its where your /boot is |
| 03:03.34 | dudeman | Mordocai, but people specify a / path and use kernel=/boot/blah |
| 03:03.57 | dudeman | Mordocai, and then you pass your kernel a root= parameter to tell it where your system is |
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| 03:04.14 | dudeman | you know what on second thought I actually have no fucking idea. |
| 03:04.28 | Mordocai | dudeman: Lol, don't worry. i got it... |
| 03:05.03 | napoleon | dudeman: it's the thought that counts :) |
| 03:05.07 | dudeman | look in /usr/share/doc grub package |
| 03:05.16 | dudeman | i forgot the exact name of the example file |
| 03:05.21 | dudeman | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:05.29 | dudeman | I know jack to begin with |
| 03:05.37 | sandman | Well, this is odd. There's a virus in my wine directory, and clamscan cannot recognize it... |
| 03:05.43 | Mordocai | dudeman: So you know, the problem was i wasn't passing the root argument to the kernel. |
| 03:05.50 | dudeman | Mordocai, ahh |
| 03:05.55 | dudeman | there you have it |
| 03:06.33 | Mordocai | so now i have an operation windows, debian, fedora, and archlinux... |
| 03:06.37 | Mordocai | operational* |
| 03:06.40 | dudeman | cool |
| 03:06.44 | dudeman | make sure to chainload windows |
| 03:06.51 | dudeman | meaning pass control to ntldr instead of grub |
| 03:06.57 | dudeman | otherwise it won't work |
| 03:07.47 | dudeman | I find debian to be overwhelming and you're using 4 OS at the same time |
| 03:07.48 | dudeman | wow |
| 03:07.54 | dudeman | talk about balls of steele |
| 03:07.54 | Mordocai | Yeah, luckily grub atuomatically took care of it for me.. |
| 03:08.48 | napoleon | how do i adjust the default keymap to something else? |
| 03:08.50 | Mordocai | That meant auto took care of windows by the way lol. |
| 03:08.55 | napoleon | is there an rc.conf file? |
| 03:09.04 | dudeman | !keymap |
| 03:09.04 | dpkg | To change your console keymap, run "dpkg-reconfigure console-data". To change your X keymap, read "man xmodmap", or ask me about <set up x> or <drxx> or use kcontrol, gnome-control-center or similar. For setting up X keymaps, also check out xkeycaps and xev, or ask me about <multimedia keys>. In console you can also use "loadkeys" for once-only/temporary adjustments. |
| 03:09.29 | napoleon | dudeman: cheers |
| 03:09.29 | dudeman | !tell napoleon -about runlevels |
| 03:09.33 | dudeman | that too |
| 03:10.31 | dudeman | ooh 11pm |
| 03:10.32 | dudeman | damn |
| 03:10.42 | dudeman | today is wed. i think southpark is on |
| 03:10.44 | dudeman | maybe |
| 03:11.56 | Mordocai | Wow... no way.... debian already crashed on me |
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| 03:12.49 | nooob | how do i find out which package contains the startx command? I'm installing a barebones system, and it appears install ratpoison doesn't automatically pull in the xorg deps |
| 03:13.00 | dudeman | nooob, x-window-system-core |
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| 03:13.06 | dudeman | !setup x |
| 03:13.06 | dpkg | To install X in etch or later "aptitude install xorg" , you may also want to install a window manager or ask me about <install gnome>, or <install kde>, or <install xfce>, or <install fluxbox>. To reconfigure your X server, ask me about <drxx>. |
| 03:13.17 | b-04 | reboot |
| 03:13.35 | dudeman | !depends ratpoison |
| 03:13.41 | rebel_kid | i followed the directions at http://www.howtoforge.com/set-up-ssh-with-public-key-authentication-debian-etch to setup ssh, to allow a new computer to connect to the remote host what would i do? |
| 03:13.51 | sandman | Anyone have experience with Clamscan not catching virii like it should? |
| 03:13.55 | sandman | Say, for example, trojans? |
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| 03:14.10 | dpkg | ratpoison: depends on libc6 (>= 2.7-1), libreadline5 (>= 5.2), libx11-6, libxinerama1, libxtst6 |
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| 03:14.13 | nooob | is virii plural? |
| 03:14.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | nooob, yes |
| 03:14.23 | dudeman | rebel_kid, is that the same thing as passwordless ssh |
| 03:14.26 | dudeman | nooob, yes |
| 03:14.34 | dudeman | some people ses viren |
| 03:14.39 | dudeman | use* |
| 03:14.51 | dudeman | i think diff is british vs. american |
| 03:14.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | dudeman, yes, Germans :-P |
| 03:14.53 | dudeman | not positive |
| 03:14.59 | dudeman | CutMeOwnThroat, ah |
| 03:15.12 | rebel_kid | dudeman, i believe so it is key-pair authentication |
| 03:15.13 | dudeman | rebel_kid, its easy |
| 03:15.27 | dudeman | rebel_kid, where are ou currently, stop don't do nothing and just tell me |
| 03:15.37 | dudeman | rebel_kid, in short simple steps, I will tell you |
| 03:16.12 | Mordocai | Okay, where can i find instructions on how to set up apt? I want to set it up to use the testing repository |
| 03:16.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | is there some program in Debian that takes a height-field of numbers and makes a landscape from it that you can walk around in... using some game... dunno... quake? some flight simulator? |
| 03:16.29 | rebel_kid | dudeman, i have my local machine setup correctly to ssh to the remote, but i want to setup more machines to connect |
| 03:16.39 | dudeman | rebel_kid, 1) install ssh 2) ssh-keygen -t rsa (keep hitting enter until you back to prompt), scp ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub host:/home/user/.ssh/authorized_keys2 |
| 03:16.45 | dudeman | rebel_kid, thats pretty much all you have to do |
| 03:16.56 | dudeman | rebel_kid, repeat the same for each |
| 03:16.59 | beardy | CutMeOwnThroat: Well.. some map editor, for as you said, some 3D engine might. |
| 03:17.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, there's terraform, not sure I saw that on my previous searches |
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| 03:17.28 | rebel_kid | dudeman, k no -p ? |
| 03:17.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | beardy, that would be awesome to look at 2D spectra sometimes |
| 03:17.30 | dudeman | rebel_kid, now when you ssh host you will not be asked a password |
| 03:17.32 | dudeman | rebel_kid, no |
| 03:17.52 | dudeman | you cn copy this file on as many servers as you want and you will not be asked a password |
| 03:17.55 | dudeman | when you ssh |
| 03:18.02 | rebel_kid | dudeman, k weird did that the first time, should be easy |
| 03:18.13 | beardy | CutMeOwnThroat: Some map editors uses for example grayscale png:s to make the heightmap. |
| 03:18.30 | dudeman | some of those pixel junkies make millions |
| 03:18.34 | beardy | CutMeOwnThroat: But no, I haven't played with any really.. so don't know what you want. |
| 03:18.41 | dudeman | all cuz they know some crazy graphics shit |
| 03:18.56 | beardy | CutMeOwnThroat: Maybe blender is what you want? |
| 03:19.10 | dudeman | http://dudeman.gotdns.com/redplanet.png |
| 03:19.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | beardy, yeah, I've seen that - I have some program that takes ages to convert my 2D spectra in a format like "x-axis y-axis height-value", though (before it's some custom totally unusual format |
| 03:19.11 | rebel_kid | dudeman, the remote doesnt permit connections without a key-pair, will it still scp correctly? |
| 03:19.30 | dudeman | rebel_kid, when you scp, it will ask to verify, and then ask you a password |
| 03:19.32 | dudeman | initially |
| 03:19.39 | dudeman | after the file is copied, no more |
| 03:19.49 | dudeman | http://dudeman.gotdns.com/redplanet.png <-- I made this in gimp from scratch |
| 03:19.54 | dudeman | :/ |
| 03:19.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | beardy, and actually gnuplot can display the result... but at the speed of a glacier |
| 03:19.59 | rebel_kid | dudeman, i believe i disabled connections like that, but i will try it |
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| 03:21.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | beardy, blender's not a bad idea, but it's secrets remained closed to me until now :) |
| 03:21.16 | CGamesPlay | hello, how can I install curl support into php? |
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| 03:21.28 | dudeman | should be a libcurl-phpp5 or something |
| 03:21.41 | deface | is there a pastebin app for debian ? wgetpaste ? |
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| 03:21.53 | dudeman | !paster |
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| 03:21.53 | dpkg | paster is your friendly Debian pastebot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste to have paster paste your results. Ask me about <pastebin> if you want to use another site. |
| 03:21.59 | dudeman | oh what |
| 03:22.03 | dudeman | what you mean app? |
| 03:22.13 | dudeman | deface, search pacakges for pastebin? |
| 03:22.17 | beardy | CutMeOwnThroat: It's a very steap curve at first, but after the initial step you can start to play around and learn more. |
| 03:22.17 | deface | in gentoo we use wgetpaste .. cat filename | wgetpaste |
| 03:22.21 | dudeman | or 'paste' |
| 03:22.22 | deface | and i get a url of the paste |
| 03:22.26 | Mordocai | Can anyone tell me where i can fine out how to get my new install to use the testing repository? |
| 03:22.30 | dudeman | !clipaste |
| 03:22.30 | Mordocai | find out* |
| 03:22.33 | dudeman | hm |
| 03:22.37 | deface | yeah cli paste |
| 03:22.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | beardy, ok, thanks |
| 03:23.11 | deface | dudeman: pastebinit - command-line pastebin client |
| 03:23.23 | beardy | !tell Mordocai about etch->lenny |
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| 03:23.30 | dudeman | ther eya go |
| 03:23.47 | deface | dudeman: can you grep Debian-exim /etc/passwd |
| 03:23.52 | beardy | Mordocai: Make sure that's really what you want.. if you're new to Debian, I recommend running stable first. |
| 03:23.55 | deface | i trashed that user earlier, and shits borked |
| 03:24.01 | dudeman | !confmiss |
| 03:24.01 | dpkg | the reason you have to use dpkg --force-confmiss is because whenever your config files (<conffiles>) are gone, dpkg assumes you deleted them on purpose, and that you want them to stay deleted. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename>; or using aptitude, aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" reinstall <packagename>; |
| 03:24.08 | dudeman | get it from the pacakge |
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| 03:24.23 | dudeman | whatever it is |
| 03:24.33 | dudeman | you need not see my /etc/passwd for any reason at all |
| 03:24.45 | dudeman | what a weird request... |
| 03:24.55 | deface | its a system user |
| 03:25.03 | deface | and i have no clue what package creates that user |
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| 03:25.19 | deface | your passwd file is of no use to anyone w/ out the shadow |
| 03:25.31 | dudeman | I am paranoid |
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| 03:25.36 | dudeman | like black sabbath |
| 03:25.42 | deface | apparently, anyone else mind grep'n that user |
| 03:25.44 | deface | Debian-exim |
| 03:25.46 | dudeman | i think you'll hack me |
| 03:25.50 | dudeman | and give me a virus |
| 03:25.55 | CGamesPlay | dudeman: thanks :) |
| 03:25.56 | deface | wouldnt take much |
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| 03:26.02 | dudeman | CGamesPlay, anytime |
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| 03:26.05 | beardy | CutMeOwnThroat: It's fun though.. http://beardy.infidyne.com/graphics/blender/ but I've probably forgotten most things now.. requires continuity(?). |
| 03:26.09 | Mordocai | beardy: Well, aparrently my apt insn't set to use any repositories... how do i fix this?(no packages are being found when i try to do anything with apt) |
| 03:26.22 | beardy | !sources.list |
| 03:26.22 | dpkg | The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian etch main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <apt-setup> <etch security> <testing security> "man sources.list" and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
| 03:26.38 | beardy | !aptitude |
| 03:26.38 | dpkg | from memory, aptitude is now the recommended tool for managing packages on your debian system. You can use it as a cli replacement for apt-get; it keeps track of automatically installed packages and will offer to remove them when no longer required. Aptitude, like apt-get in lenny/sid, also installs "Recommended" packages that are usually required but you have the option not to install them. Ask me about <why aptitude> <why not aptitude> <aptitude-fu> |
| 03:27.07 | dudeman | !pastebin pipe |
| 03:27.07 | dpkg | Download http://pastebin.ca/download/paste2pastebin.pl and install libwww-mechanize-perl. Then pipe your output to perl paste2pastebin.pl. You can also "aptitude install pastebinit" if you are on lenny/sid. |
| 03:27.09 | dudeman | there it is |
| 03:28.18 | deface | dpkg: syntax error: unknown group `Debian-exim' in statoverride file |
| 03:28.18 | dpkg | deface: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 03:28.20 | deface | no, there it is |
| 03:28.23 | deface | err |
| 03:28.27 | dudeman | hahahaha |
| 03:28.28 | Mordocai | beardy: What is http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile? |
| 03:28.38 | deface | yeah, anything that needs that users, spits that error and wont install |
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| 03:29.56 | beardy | Mordocai: Where is that from? |
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| 03:30.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, there's only one terraform package - can apt-cache show me from which repository it comes? |
| 03:30.54 | beardy | !volatile |
| 03:30.54 | dpkg | methinks volatile is a project that aims at keeping the stable distribution up to date for fast moving packages such as virus scanners, spam scanners and firmware downloaders. It can be found at http://volatile.debian.org/. An example line for your etch sources.list is: deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile etch/volatile main contrib non-free |
| 03:31.10 | beardy | Mordocai: ^^^ Apparently it is that. |
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| 03:31.34 | Mordocai | beardy: Okay, cool. It was commented out on my sources file. |
| 03:31.40 | beardy | Mordocai: Ah. |
| 03:31.50 | deface | dpkg-stateoverride |
| 03:31.51 | deface | ;) |
| 03:31.55 | dudeman | hm |
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| 03:37.46 | GAYBOBDOLL | Ciao! I have Etch Stable on /dev/hda, i want to install Sarge to /dev/hda6, is that possible? |
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| 03:39.10 | rebel_kid | locate: /var/cache/locate/locatedb: No such file or directory |
| 03:39.10 | rebel_kid | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:39.33 | beardy | rebel_kid: 'updatedb' |
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| 03:39.51 | Mordocai | GAYBOBDOLL: Should be fine. |
| 03:40.13 | GAYBOBDOLL | ;D thanx |
| 03:40.16 | Mordocai | GAYBOBDOLL: Just make sure grub is configured right. |
| 03:40.30 | GAYBOBDOLL | for sure |
| 03:40.32 | GAYBOBDOLL | :D |
| 03:40.59 | beardy | GAYBOBDOLL: If you really want to.. sure. I wonder why though. |
| 03:42.27 | Mordocai | beardy: I tend to answer questions and let them do with tthat knowledge what they will :P. I should probably put a disclaimer somwhere lol... |
| 03:42.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | found that nick a bit disturbing |
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| 03:43.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | like everyone starting to shout |
| 03:43.13 | beardy | Well. |
| 03:43.37 | beardy | The caps were a bit too much. |
| 03:44.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | is also not sure what a gay bobdoll is |
| 03:44.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | (but that besides) |
| 03:44.55 | dudeman | uhm |
| 03:45.00 | dudeman | you know |
| 03:45.02 | dudeman | bob dole... |
| 03:45.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | no |
| 03:45.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | and I think I might not want to know |
| 03:45.17 | dudeman | hes a notorous/famousinfamous usa politician |
| 03:45.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | hmm |
| 03:45.24 | dudeman | i dunno what hes known for |
| 03:45.27 | dudeman | but its not good |
| 03:45.29 | dudeman | i think |
| 03:45.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | rings a bell |
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| 03:46.01 | beardy | Why wasn't it spelt(?) correctly then? |
| 03:46.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | to be funny, for sure |
| 03:46.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | ... |
| 03:46.14 | dudeman | its a play on spelling I bleive |
| 03:46.29 | dudeman | quite clever if I may say so |
| 03:46.36 | beardy | (and why was the realname pink under garments, in german) It doesn't matter though, to each their own. |
| 03:46.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | uh... |
| 03:46.46 | dudeman | lol |
| 03:46.59 | dudeman | hahaha thats awesome |
| 03:47.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | perhaps it was a fan... |
| 03:47.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | *shrug* |
| 03:47.25 | dudeman | maybe he was on the other team |
| 03:47.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | you mean he's courting? |
| 03:47.41 | dudeman | the "men's" team |
| 03:47.47 | dudeman | *ahem* |
| 03:48.03 | dudeman | anyway bye |
| 03:48.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, can you install the terraform package? |
| 03:48.26 | dudeman | me? |
| 03:48.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | anyone |
| 03:48.33 | dudeman | why come? |
| 03:48.44 | beardy | When you can go. |
| 03:48.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | seems only to be in stable? |
| 03:48.57 | dudeman | beardy, huh>? |
| 03:49.04 | dudeman | beardy, in a little bit |
| 03:49.08 | dudeman | I'm kinda sleepy |
| 03:49.14 | beardy | dudeman: A play on words. |
| 03:49.15 | dudeman | damn, you are eager to shove me out |
| 03:49.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | yeah |
| 03:49.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | hehe |
| 03:49.32 | dudeman | or talk abotu whatever you are talking about I have no idea |
| 03:49.33 | dudeman | I'm lost |
| 03:49.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | dudeman, btw, did you know that your long monologues remind me of a guy called Nyle? |
| 03:49.58 | dudeman | CutMeOwnThroat, yeh that dude is a prick, I don't like him. |
| 03:49.58 | rebel_kid | i hate this error, "Permission denied (publickey).", created a key, scp'ed it over, and cat it into authorized_keys why no permission? |
| 03:50.05 | beardy | If I ever would say "lol", this would be it. |
| 03:50.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | dudeman, yeah, I know :) |
| 03:50.08 | dudeman | rebel_kid, don't cat it |
| 03:50.11 | esthar | How can I enable rewrite_module for my Etch Apache2? |
| 03:50.15 | dudeman | rebel_kid, I told you what to do |
| 03:50.32 | dudeman | delete the authorized_keys2 file from the server and scp your file to it |
| 03:50.33 | karsten | How do i go from window ID (xdpyingo) to the application running a specific window? I've got keyboard focus stolen and I want to gget it back. |
| 03:50.34 | dudeman | don't cat nothing |
| 03:51.05 | rebel_kid | dudeman, that wasnt letting us cp over, i have the key, so name it authorized_keys2 and remove it from authorized_keys |
| 03:51.06 | rebel_kid | ? |
| 03:51.30 | dudeman | if you have the password how come you can't scp it over? |
| 03:51.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | beardy, this is actually part II |
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| 03:51.42 | beardy | !why isn't terraform in testing |
| 03:51.43 | dpkg | terraform is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=terraform |
| 03:51.59 | rebel_kid | dudeman, well i had to revert my edits to the config_file temporarily then i got a no file or directory error |
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| 03:52.17 | dudeman | man I'd help you but I'm sleepy n shit |
| 03:52.30 | rebel_kid | lol ok |
| 03:52.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | haha... |
| 03:52.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | beardy, did you look at that page? |
| 03:53.05 | beardy | CutMeOwnThroat: Yes. Did you click the link? |
| 03:53.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | yes, it's lying lieing ... damnit, not telling the truth |
| 03:53.40 | beardy | CutMeOwnThroat: Why not? |
| 03:54.03 | dudeman | esthar, go to /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/ and create a symlink to /etc/apache2/mods-available/rewrite.load |
| 03:54.06 | dudeman | I think |
| 03:54.06 | beardy | CutMeOwnThroat: You said it was in etch, but not anywhere else, it says that. |
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| 03:54.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | because a) my apt tells me it's there and it wouldnt lie to me and b) http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=267911 |
| 03:54.29 | dudeman | esthar, ask in #apache also I'm not really sure its been a while |
| 03:55.00 | dudeman | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 30 2008-08-31 20:23 rewrite.load -> ../mods-available/rewrite.load |
| 03:55.03 | dudeman | yeh, thats it |
| 03:55.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, that bug's 3 years old, though... feh |
| 03:55.46 | dudeman | also |
| 03:55.46 | esthar | dudeman: do I have to restart Apache? |
| 03:55.47 | beardy | CutMeOwnThroat: I meant, did you read this, which dpkg's link, points to. http://packages.qa.debian.org/t/terraform.html |
| 03:55.53 | dudeman | esthar, yes |
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| 03:56.18 | dudeman | esthar, then you can use an .htaccess files and do stuff like rewriteenabled |
| 03:56.19 | dudeman | etc. |
| 03:56.28 | Mordocai | beardy: I just ran the aptitude "full-upgrade"(which isn't a command, dist-upgrade appears to be the proper one) and i noticed it was removing gnome... and now my screen is black... |
| 03:56.39 | dudeman | Mordocai, you on etch? |
| 03:56.50 | Mordocai | dudeman: yeah, ethcnhalf |
| 03:56.54 | dudeman | Mordocai, on testing onwards it IS a valid command and dist-upgrade is deprecated |
| 03:57.03 | dudeman | Mordocai, ok, then yes, dist-upgrade for you |
| 03:57.24 | dudeman | Mordocai, well dist-upgrade isn't deprecated, full is mapped to dist/aliased |
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| 03:57.39 | dudeman | well i guess it is i dunno.. |
| 03:58.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | beardy, no, did not find that page.. or didn't look at it carefully at least..... hm, now that I do I see it's been removed without reason |
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| 03:58.28 | Mordocai | dudeman: SO i'm following dpkg's etch>lenny thing, but it's not really working right... (as expected) |
| 03:58.50 | dudeman | I'm not sure if it was meant to work with etchnhalf or just etch |
| 03:58.52 | scibot | Guys I'm trying to isolate some system freezes I've been having. |
| 03:58.58 | dudeman | I know from etch to testing there is no problems really |
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| 03:59.07 | dudeman | I did that recently, but never used etchnhalf no clue |
| 03:59.13 | scibot | Can't find anything consistent yet though, this did come up. |
| 03:59.18 | scibot | "Clocksource tsc unstable (delta = -320075898 ns)" |
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| 03:59.30 | dudeman | scibot, did you google it? |
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| 03:59.58 | beardy | Mordocai: Well, for the "screen is black" problem. Ctrl-Alt-F1 to F6 for your virtual terminals, and don't update from X. |
| 04:00.27 | dudeman | Day changed to 23 Oct 2008 |
| 04:00.31 | scibot | Not yet, I'm hitting the irc channels because the rtc module was known for having trouble on the eeepc in previous kernel releases. |
| 04:00.36 | beardy | 6 hours ago. |
| 04:00.47 | dudeman | the eeepc |
| 04:01.00 | dudeman | beardy, we can't all be as advanced as you |
| 04:01.06 | beardy | dudeman: Hehe |
| 04:01.13 | dudeman | :) |
| 04:01.20 | Mordocai | beardy: Virtual terminals haven't worked since install |
| 04:01.44 | Mordocai | beardy: Just nothing there. |
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| 04:03.07 | beardy | Mordocai: It probably is.. but your monitor/graphics card might not like it.. you get no out of sync, or "no signal" from your monitor when switching? |
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| 04:06.02 | Mordocai | beardy: No, i get the "no signal". |
| 04:06.12 | Mordocai | beardy: Works fine on other distros... |
| 04:07.00 | beardy | Mordocai: Do other distros use the framebuffer for the console/vty:s? |
| 04:07.30 | Mordocai | beardy: no idea |
| 04:07.48 | beardy | Mordocai: When they boot, do they have Tux images in the upper left corner? |
| 04:08.06 | Mordocai | beardy: Not that i've seen |
| 04:08.11 | beardy | Mordocai: In their vty:s, do you have a block as marker instead of an underline? |
| 04:08.44 | Mordocai | beardy: Meh, i don't pay attention to such things :(. I guess i can just change the run level |
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| 04:09.43 | beardy | Mordocai: As I said, your vty:s are there, but X has done something to your graphics card, or driver rather.. |
| 04:10.34 | beardy | Mordocai: Debian does not use different runlevels. But well, to fix it you might need to have the display manager not start, yes. |
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| 04:12.48 | beardy | Mordocai: Well, do you pay attention to if you have more than 80x25 terminals? |
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| 04:19.54 | Mordocai | So, as far as i can tell... x shouldn't even be working right now... |
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| 04:26.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | Mordocai, haha... |
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| 04:31.45 | pobega | Hi, I'm using the madwifi modules for my wireless and all of a sudden I'm not able to get my wireless to connect from the other room -- iwlist ath0 scan reports a very weak signal |
| 04:32.11 | pobega | It worked the other day. ANd I'm right next to it now with my other laptop, which DOES work, and reports 71% signal strength |
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| 04:38.03 | dbbolton | what package supplies "gthread" ? |
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| 04:56.58 | ukatan | so, I have an interesting problem |
| 04:57.53 | ukatan | I'm using insserv for concurrent boot, and my /dev/sdb1 fails to mount since the system can't see it yet |
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| 04:58.20 | ukatan | is there a way to force something to wait (even though this circumvents the whole point of concurrent boot) |
| 04:58.21 | aaron | hey i have a question from where can i get the etch dvd iso? |
| 04:58.39 | adb | !dvd |
| 04:58.39 | dpkg | i guess dvd is use <xine> (xine-ui for X11 or kaffeine for KDE), <vlc> or <ogle> (or okle for KDE, supposed to be inferior to kaffeine) to play video DVDs, or ask me about <decss>, or ask me about <libdvdcss>, or to burn a DVD check <wodim> or <growisofs>. See <dvd playback>, <dvd playback troubleshooting> |
| 04:58.50 | aaron | !etch dvd |
| 04:59.02 | aaron | !etch |
| 04:59.02 | dpkg | Etch is the code name for the current stable Debian release, version 4.0, released on April 8th, 2007. Ask me about <install debian>. Please read the release notes at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes which also contain the upgrade procedure for upgrading from the previous version of Debian stable (<sarge>). Ask me about <stable>. currently <4.0r4>, or the Etch-A-Sketch magic screen |
| 04:59.21 | aaron | !4.0r4 |
| 04:59.21 | dpkg | Debian GNU/Linux 4.0r4 was released on July 26th, 2008. This release contains an updated installer, the network-console installation option is no longer vulnerable to the issue described in <DSA1571>. It also includes 2.6.24 kernel images and related new packages, to provide support for hardware requiring updated drivers. http://www.debian.org/News/2008/20080726 Also ask me about <etchnhalf>. |
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| 04:59.48 | ukatan | aaron: just so you know, it's usually easier to interact with dpkg in a private message |
| 05:00.04 | aaron | hey i have a question from where can i get the etch dvd iso? |
| 05:00.42 | ham5 | your kidding... |
| 05:00.43 | beardy | !cdo |
| 05:00.56 | NaomiCruz | no I'm not |
| 05:01.03 | ham5 | you are kidding |
| 05:01.17 | adb | aaron: better use netinstall |
| 05:02.00 | beardy | !cdo |
| 05:02.01 | dpkg | beardy, http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ -- or if you just want to install debian, it is not recommended to download the entire cdimage. Please use the ftp method of installation... |
| 05:02.39 | enouf | rhaggy? |
| 05:02.59 | infinity1 | i'm bored :) |
| 05:03.20 | enouf | bug squash |
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| 05:06.15 | beardy | That one is from 2001.. leaving culture history alone of course.. |
| 05:06.17 | beardy | !cdo |
| 05:06.17 | dpkg | http://cdimage.debian.org/ -- if you are installing Debian and have the bandwidth to download cd or dvd images, you are much better of installing using netinstall anyway. See <netinstall>, <ig> |
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| 05:07.36 | enouf | dpkg: cdo =~ s#of#off# |
| 05:07.36 | dpkg | enouf: OK |
| 05:07.54 | enouf | ;-) |
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| 05:08.32 | beardy | Oh.. good catch enouf. |
| 05:09.15 | enouf | i typo more than you'll ever know - sometimes, i type one line for 20 minutes, constantly correcting my typos as i go |
| 05:09.53 | aaron | [[[[[ !linux [[[[[ |
| 05:10.19 | aaron | [[[[[ darn it [[[[[ |
| 05:11.06 | L4m3r | I'm trying to set up a server with seven PATA HDDs. I've got a controller card in the box, but the installer won't detect the drives on that card |
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| 05:11.12 | L4m3r | it is a SiIG SC-PE4B12 |
| 05:11.26 | L4m3r | currently looking around Google for info, but not finding much :( |
| 05:12.54 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:17.50 | PeterFA | I need to find the documentation for what's found in bridge-utils. |
| 05:18.24 | rebel_kid | im getting Permission Denied (publickey). error still when ssh'ing |
| 05:18.36 | PeterFA | I found the page that talks about the deb. I just don't know what to do now, it doesn't have any links to documentation. |
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| 05:19.33 | enouf | PeterFA: nothing in /usr/share/doc/* ? |
| 05:19.46 | PeterFA | enouf, I don't really know even the name of the binary. |
| 05:19.57 | enouf | PeterFA: dpkg -L <pkg> | grep doc |
| 05:20.04 | PeterFA | enouf, oh. |
| 05:20.31 | enouf | PeterFA: dpkg -L <pkg> to list all files within |
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| 05:21.14 | PeterFA | Thanks. |
| 05:21.22 | joneal | hi |
| 05:21.51 | click170 | Does anyone know why an apt mirror (created with `apt-mirror`) doesn't mirror the debian-installer folder or any of the associated folders which are required for a pxe-booted install? |
| 05:23.09 | Dewi | click170: those things don't sound like debian packages |
| 05:24.07 | click170 | Dewi: Touche, but if that is so then this must mean that other official mirrors don't use apt-mirror to keep in sync, as if they did they wouldn't contain said files either? |
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| 05:24.53 | Dewi | click170: I'm not sure. Maybe those extra bits are rsynced (or hell, the whole thing might be rsynced) |
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| 05:26.31 | click170 | Dewi: Thanks, I'll look into Rsync for this. |
| 05:27.11 | Dewi | click170: obligatory disclaimer - rsync isn't the only rool for remote filesynching, but it's just about the best |
| 05:27.30 | Supaplex | <3's rsync to def |
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| 05:27.44 | Dewi | of course major debian mirrors have to be careful about the order things are updated in, I think |
| 05:28.08 | Dewi | (and rsync's options to do with delaying replacement can help with that stuff) |
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| 05:28.17 | click170 | I'll be careful to watch out for that. |
| 05:29.06 | ukatan | hi, is there a way to make a link to a directory so that the system will always "think" that directory is mounted, even if it isn't? |
| 05:29.23 | dondelelcaro | ukatan: what are you actually trying to do? |
| 05:29.47 | ukatan | I'm using insserv for concurrent boot and mpd starts before my external drive is mounted |
| 05:29.50 | smacnay | to configure exim to run on a local network - would I set it to be an "internet site" or would that open up the computer with exim to attacks from the net. |
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| 05:30.09 | ukatan | also the mount script is called before /dev/sdb1 even exists |
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| 05:30.19 | ukatan | so not only does my drive fail to mount, mpd fails to start |
| 05:30.25 | dondelelcaro | ukatan: so change the position at which mpd mounts, or restart it after the mountpoint is there. |
| 05:30.36 | dondelelcaro | s/mount/start/ |
| 05:30.40 | ukatan | right |
| 05:30.55 | ukatan | so the other problem is the fact that the drive will still fail to mount |
| 05:31.07 | dondelelcaro | ukatan: why is the drive failing to mount? |
| 05:31.18 | ukatan | because the device /dev/sdb1 doesn't exist when the mount script is called |
| 05:31.23 | ukatan | it appears about 3s later |
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| 05:31.42 | ukatan | I'm pretty sure it's because acpid has to start first |
| 05:31.44 | dondelelcaro | what is /dev/sdb1? |
| 05:31.47 | ukatan | or hal or something |
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| 05:31.52 | ukatan | external drive. |
| 05:32.05 | dondelelcaro | ukatan: what type of external drive? |
| 05:32.07 | ukatan | used to work fine, but somehow my boot got ever-so-slightly shorter and it messed everything up |
| 05:32.17 | ukatan | some nameless thing I built |
| 05:32.51 | dondelelcaro | usb? firewire? |
| 05:32.55 | ukatan | oh, sorry, usb |
| 05:32.57 | ukatan | heh |
| 05:33.16 | dondelelcaro | so yeah, the problem is most likely that that drive hasn't come up at the time that mountall runs. |
| 05:33.20 | ukatan | yep |
| 05:33.28 | ukatan | so is there a way to make mountall wait like 3 seconds? |
| 05:33.42 | ukatan | or maybe a flag in /etc/fstab or something I can set |
| 05:33.43 | dondelelcaro | ukatan: yes; you can add a sleep 3 (or similar) to it. |
| 05:33.55 | ukatan | and that's /etc/init.d/mountall.sh, right? |
| 05:34.22 | dondelelcaro | yes |
| 05:34.43 | dondelelcaro | in general it shouldn't be required, but external drives that are slow to come up can sometimes require it |
| 05:34.49 | ukatan | yes |
| 05:34.53 | enouf | is it the time that /proc/bus/usb mounts that's causing it? |
| 05:34.56 | ukatan | I figured it was a pretty hardware-specific thing |
| 05:35.01 | adb | or in rc.local |
| 05:35.20 | ukatan | adb, I would put it in rc.local but then mpd dies |
| 05:35.35 | ukatan | I'm trying to get it to where I can boot the system and not issue 3-4 commands to have it working properly :x |
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| 05:35.56 | rebel_kid | i tried to add another public key and thus another user to my ssh server, but i get Permission Denied (publickey). |
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| 05:37.11 | dondelelcaro | rebel_kid: users are totally separated from the authorized keys which log into a particular user. |
| 05:38.03 | ukatan | ok, I think I got it. thanks guys. |
| 05:38.13 | enouf | was it at fosdem or debconf8 that i saw a video about insserv ? |
| 05:38.31 | enouf | s/at/from |
| 05:38.31 | rebel_kid | dondelelcaro, i understand that, but i generated a public/private key pair on a machine and scp'ed it to the server, then cat it into authorized_keys, logging in with that key-pair does not work, but logging in with the first one i created works just fine |
| 05:39.03 | ukatan | dunno, I figure I probably shouldn't REALLY be mucking around with crazy init stuff |
| 05:39.19 | ukatan | I like it though, it shaves a good 4-6 seconds off my boot time |
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| 05:40.35 | dondelelcaro | rebel_kid: and you've checked authorized_keys and it corresponds to the public key which corresponds to the private key that you're using? |
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| 05:40.55 | rebel_kid | dondelelcaro, correct |
| 05:41.10 | dondelelcaro | rebel_kid: and it's the key that you're actually advertising? |
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| 05:41.20 | dondelelcaro | rebel_kid: what does ssh -vvv foohost; say? |
| 05:41.29 | rebel_kid | dondelelcaro: checking |
| 05:44.51 | rebel_kid | dondelelcaro, sorry not my local machine, waiting for him to pb the output |
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| 05:46.57 | dondelelcaro | rebel_kid: generally speaking, those sorts of problems either correspond to errors in copying the public key, wrong public key, or wrong permissions. [It could *also* be a blacklisted key due to the random number generator vulnerability] |
| 05:47.40 | rebel_kid | dondelelcaro, alright i will try a new key-pair, check permissions |
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| 05:48.14 | izzyb | !pam_ldap |
| 05:48.14 | enouf | rebel_kid: what OS and version is the machine running that you are generating the keys on? |
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| 05:48.35 | rebel_kid | enouf, i believe he is on mac osx, the remote is debian |
| 05:48.47 | rebel_kid | running iTerm in OSX |
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| 05:51.31 | enouf | rebel_kid: ok - well "/msg dpkg dsa1571" - /msg dpkg security (to find out what was meant about the blacklisted possibility) |
| 05:51.43 | enouf | JFYI |
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| 05:52.19 | rebel_kid | enouf, lmao i didnt know i was running windows lol, it just magically started working |
| 05:52.27 | enouf | ... |
| 05:52.29 | rebel_kid | didnt think linux did that :) |
| 05:53.21 | rebel_kid | weird, only difference between the commands is -vvv, oh well at least it works |
| 05:53.36 | izzyb | I'm having problems getting a pam_ldap authentication working on a new box with the ldap server running on a remote system and ldap authentication working fine on other boxes. I can query the ldap server using ldapsearch so it has to be something simple I'm missing. problem is, I have no idea how to troubleshoot this and google hasn't been much help |
| 05:53.44 | izzyb | anyone able to pint me in the right dirrection? |
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| 05:55.27 | dondelelcaro | izzyb: have you made pam_ldap sufficient? |
| 05:55.27 | enouf | izzyb: all i can say is see /etc/pam.d/* and try dpkg -L <LDAP-related-pkg-name> (look/grep for docs - maybe even html) |
| 05:55.48 | dondelelcaro | izzyb: do you have the proper permissions listed in the ldap configuration for pam-ldap? |
| 05:57.05 | enouf | hrm /etc/pam.d/common-auth:# (e.g., /etc/shadow, LDAP, Kerberos, etc.). The default is to use the |
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| 05:58.36 | izzyb | dondelelcaro, where do I need to set pam_ldap sufficient? I remember something about that but don't recall where |
| 05:59.06 | izzyb | I modified nsswitch.conf to include ldap support |
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| 05:59.50 | dondelelcaro | izzyb: that just means that nslookup stuff will use ldap. |
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| 06:00.15 | izzyb | k, and that's for dir lists and such right? |
| 06:00.33 | dondelelcaro | izzyb: you need to modify common-*; to use pam_ldap in addition to pam_unix |
| 06:00.35 | dondelelcaro | izzyb: yes. |
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| 06:01.07 | dondelelcaro | izzyb: nslookup handles everyhting save for session creation, passwords, authorization, etc. |
| 06:01.16 | izzyb | the test I'm running that tells me things aren't working is that I have some files owned by users in the ldap database and their showing up as numbers instead of names |
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| 06:01.36 | dondelelcaro | izzyb: ok, that's nswitch and nslookup. |
| 06:02.00 | izzyb | k, so I haven't tested pam yet, just a sec |
| 06:02.31 | izzyb | k su doesn't work with a known user |
| 06:02.48 | dondelelcaro | izzyb: that means that libnss-ldap.conf et al isn't configured properly |
| 06:03.03 | izzyb | ah, I see where sufficient goes ;) |
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| 06:04.09 | izzyb | k, found one problem. my url was ldapi instead of ldap, but it hasn't fixed anything |
| 06:04.20 | izzyb | do I need to restart anything for changes to take effect? |
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| 06:06.59 | dondelelcaro | izzyb: nope, no restart needed. |
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| 06:08.25 | izzyb | k, think I found the info I need for pam.d. Does it need to be correct for the user/group names to show up in ls -l? |
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| 06:09.15 | PeterFA | Why does a bridge need or use an IP address? |
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| 06:09.29 | PeterFA | I'm using brctl from bridge-utils. |
| 06:11.31 | PeterFA | And can I use it like an ordinary interface and get the computer online? |
| 06:11.35 | izzyb | hmm, I'm following http://wiki.debian.org/LDAP/PAM and it doesn't look right to me. at least it's not what I have on my old boxes. |
| 06:12.06 | izzyb | I see sufficient for pam_succeed_if, which I'm guessing is failing for anyone less then 1000? |
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| 06:12.27 | izzyb | I doubt you'd want that to succeed |
| 06:13.05 | enouf | !bridge setup |
| 06:13.05 | dpkg | Install the 'bridge-utils' package and read /usr/share/doc/bridge-utils/README.Debian.gz (Etch) or the bridge-utils-interfaces(5) man page (Lenny). It contains basic and advanced bridge configuration examples ("dhcp" can be used in place of "static"). IP forwarding does _not_ need to be enabled. |
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| 06:13.26 | izzyb | oh, wait, thats not for authenticating... |
| 06:13.57 | enouf | !tell PeterFA -about bridge |
| 06:14.05 | izzyb | so, that allows accounts less then 1000 to view users? |
| 06:14.18 | izzyb | is that what common-account is for? |
| 06:14.20 | PeterFA | enouf, I just read the documentation and it made sense. |
| 06:15.27 | PeterFA | My best understanding was that a bridge was just where packets from one interface were copied to another. |
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| 06:16.13 | codehai | moin |
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| 06:26.57 | izzyb | what does nullok_secure do? |
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| 06:27.50 | quimnut | The nullok_secure option was added to support passwordless pam_unix |
| 06:27.51 | quimnut | logins only from ttys listed in /etc/securetty. |
| 06:28.04 | izzyb | oh, k |
| 06:28.17 | izzyb | how about use_first_pass? |
| 06:28.18 | buntfalke | doesnt the okular package version 0.7-2 support adding notes to PDFs? |
| 06:28.19 | quimnut | second hit on google |
| 06:28.43 | buntfalke | that's the one of lenny |
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| 06:31.49 | izzyb | Is there a list of all the pam modules and what they do? |
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| 06:37.40 | rebel_kid | my server will be used by a select few only, so i dont really care about making it easy, i need to make ftp secure, what would be best ssl, sftp, etc? |
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| 06:39.55 | izzyb | rebel_kid: do you want to secure the transfer or the system? |
| 06:40.10 | gpm | sftp's da bomb |
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| 06:40.37 | rebel_kid | izzyb, just the transfer, ftp sends passwords in plain text, that doesnt meet my guidlines for security lol |
| 06:40.51 | izzyb | :) |
| 06:40.57 | izzyb | yeah, sftp is the way to go |
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| 06:41.14 | rebel_kid | is there a package and maybe a nice newb tutorial? |
| 06:41.22 | izzyb | then you just have to have accounts on your system for the users and normal security issues there |
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| 06:41.54 | konnertz | hi. how to get all files a pkg installs , possible with apt? |
| 06:42.21 | izzyb | konnertz, apt-mirror |
| 06:42.31 | izzyb | oh, sorry |
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| 06:43.42 | izzyb | !search |
| 06:43.42 | dpkg | Please search for things rather than just asking: 'apt-cache search regex'. Find which package owns a file: 'dpkg -S /bin/foo' or 'aptitude install apt-file; apt-file update; apt-file search foo'. Use http://packages.debian.org/ or '/msg dpkg find filename' if you're already here. '/msg dpkg listkeys <thing>' to find factoids containing <thing>. See http://wiki.debian.org/WhereIsIt |
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| 06:46.33 | enouf | rebel_kid: poke about on debian-administration.org, and wiki.debian.org |
| 06:47.25 | enouf | konnertz: dpkg -L <pkgname> |
| 06:47.48 | rebel_kid | wait, let me get this straight i have openSSH installed so SFTP is installed as well? |
| 06:48.02 | izzyb | yes |
| 06:48.10 | enouf | konnertz: if you mean, a pkg not yet installed, see apt-file list |
| 06:48.17 | izzyb | rebel_kid, are your guests using windows? |
| 06:48.34 | izzyb | winscp is a nice sftp client for them |
| 06:48.39 | rebel_kid | izzyb, heck no lol, mac, bsd, and lin |
| 06:48.51 | izzyb | then they'll have sftp command tool |
| 06:49.01 | rebel_kid | so all i have to do now is connect? |
| 06:49.10 | rebel_kid | with a user/pass ? |
| 06:49.11 | izzyb | not sure what guis are available, but I'm sure there are a few |
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| 06:49.22 | izzyb | yeah, sftp user@domain |
| 06:49.37 | izzyb | or ip address |
| 06:49.41 | enouf | konnertz: similarly, /msg dpkg pdo and also note, some files are generated via the .postinst scripts from the installation of pkg - not included within a pkg |
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| 06:50.13 | konnertz | i have permission prob, cant read file <pkg name> |
| 06:50.24 | konnertz | like that (it's german) |
| 06:50.35 | enouf | konnertz: export LANG=C |
| 06:51.24 | enouf | dpkg -l | grep <keyword> to get correct pkg name (if it's installed) |
| 06:51.24 | dpkg | No packages found matching | grep <keyword> to get correct pkg name (if it's installed) |
| 06:51.37 | enouf | shaddup you! :-P |
| 06:51.59 | rebel_kid | izzyb, how can i define a specific port to use |
| 06:52.01 | izzyb | hehe :) |
| 06:52.08 | rebel_kid | my openSSH is on 2222 |
| 06:52.12 | izzyb | i think it's -P |
| 06:52.16 | izzyb | man sftp |
| 06:52.17 | rebel_kid | ah big p lol |
| 06:52.50 | izzyb | oops -oPort= |
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| 06:53.25 | rebel_kid | wow nice |
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| 06:53.32 | rebel_kid | that was painless :) |
| 06:54.04 | enouf | "oh, it can core a apple.. ha. ha!" |
| 06:54.09 | izzyb | yeah, it's not bad. scp is nice also. as is rsync |
| 06:54.28 | izzyb | depending on what you want to do :) |
| 06:54.36 | enouf | "zip zip!" .. "hah hah!" |
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| 06:55.04 | enouf | (maybe we should mention something about spear fishing) |
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| 06:59.26 | woden1 | Does anyone know of an easy way to reencode wmv into mpeg-4 for an ipod? |
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| 06:59.38 | tarzeau | woden1: using mencoder? |
| 07:00.08 | ferguscan | I have a disk image from an old debian install. I would like to find the version of a package that was installed on that system. Where is that information held/ |
| 07:00.09 | ferguscan | ? |
| 07:00.26 | woden1 | tarzeau: No not using mencoder |
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| 07:00.39 | izzyb | dpkg -l should help |
| 07:00.39 | dpkg | No packages found matching should help |
| 07:00.45 | woden1 | tarzeau: Is mencoder what I should use? |
| 07:00.52 | izzyb | shoots dpkg |
| 07:01.04 | tarzeau | woden1: i would |
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| 07:01.36 | woden1 | tarzeau: When I go to install mencoder it wants to remove some other packages: gnomebaker, gstreamer-.10-ffmpeg, libpostproc |
| 07:02.05 | izzyb | ferguscan, can you boot the image? |
| 07:02.17 | izzyb | or mount it at least? |
| 07:02.25 | izzyb | was it functional? |
| 07:02.31 | ferguscan | izzyb, not without some serious surgery. Base-level libs are shot. I can't eve chroot. |
| 07:02.35 | ferguscan | can't even |
| 07:02.51 | izzyb | ah, I was just going to suggest a chroot then dpkg -l |
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| 07:03.09 | woden1 | tarzeau: is that normal? |
| 07:03.19 | ferguscan | izzyb, what file or files are examined by dpkg -l ? |
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| 07:05.29 | izzyb | according to man dpkg, looks like you're looking for something in /var/lib/dpkg/status |
| 07:05.40 | gonzaloaf_laptop | ? |
| 07:05.53 | gonzaloaf_laptop | hi, is there a gui to configure squid? |
| 07:06.36 | izzyb | ferguscan, yeah, that's it, and wow, what a bunch of info :) |
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| 07:08.19 | ferguscan | thanks very much guts |
| 07:08.21 | ferguscan | guys |
| 07:08.22 | ferguscan | :) |
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| 07:10.01 | izzyb | gonzaloaf_laptop, I seen a webmin module for squid, but have never used it. google squid gui pulls up a few options |
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| 07:11.22 | ShitalLin | How i can open a port in firewall, any one guide me please? |
| 07:11.42 | izzyb | what firewall? |
| 07:11.58 | gonzaloaf_laptop | izzyb, thans |
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| 07:12.01 | gonzaloaf_laptop | ty |
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| 07:12.29 | ShitalLin | i have installed Amule and its saying KAD is firewalled |
| 07:12.40 | woden1 | grr |
| 07:12.49 | izzyb | gonzaloaf_laptop, np |
| 07:13.00 | ShitalLin | how can i remove that firewall |
| 07:13.21 | woden1 | why does mencoder or ffmpeg want to remove gnomebaker and gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg? |
| 07:13.41 | izzyb | depends on what firewall you're talking about. is this on your router? is it a linux box? are you using a firewall manager? |
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| 07:15.56 | ShitalLin | no its directly connected to Internet, i have installed Amule |
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| 07:16.15 | ShitalLin | its a linux box though |
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| 07:16.40 | tarzeau | woden1: no idea, i use my own mplayer/mencoder packaging |
| 07:16.52 | tarzeau | woden1: likewise with lame. |
| 07:17.20 | woden1 | tarzeau: you mean you just grabbed the source and compiled it? |
| 07:17.33 | tarzeau | woden1: well and made it a debian package |
| 07:17.43 | tarzeau | woden1: since we use it on more than one machine (~ 200) |
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| 07:18.47 | izzyb | ShitalLin, I've never played with amule, but I'm surprised you're having firewall issues if your connected dirrectly to the network with nothing between. Did you install any kind of firewall? |
| 07:18.53 | PeterFA | I have two subnets with the same IP address range: 192.168.30.0/24 but there are no conflicting IP address. I can add a route to each node on the opposite network through a bridge if I use an IP address for the respective machine as the gateway, but I can't add the whole network, why? |
| 07:18.59 | PeterFA | And how do I get around this? |
| 07:19.33 | ShitalLin | No, i have a server and i connected to it |
| 07:20.36 | izzyb | ShitalLin, which machine has the connection to the internet' |
| 07:20.46 | izzyb | is it the one you installed amule on? |
| 07:21.14 | ShitalLin | my server is SUSe-10.3, i installed debian, on VBOX where in i installed amule, but in server i opened the ports in firewall |
| 07:22.53 | izzyb | ShitalLin, then you have to do port forwarding of some type. what do you use to manage the firewall on the server? |
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| 07:27.35 | izzyb | ShitalLin, I know little about suse linux and unless you're running shorewall, I doubt I'll be able to help. but what you want to do is forward the required ports to the machine running amule |
| 07:28.02 | ShitalLin | but how to do that? |
| 07:28.08 | ShitalLin | forwarding?? |
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| 07:29.13 | izzyb | you can do that manually using iptables commands directly, but that's not an easy task. Its best to use a firewall manager of some type, and there are a number out there. I use shorewall |
| 07:29.31 | izzyb | How do you open ports on the firewall now? |
| 07:30.17 | amphi | it's not difficult to do it with iptables, but if you use some gui, you should probably use that |
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| 07:31.12 | izzyb | no, but it isn't for someone new to firewalls in linux :) |
| 07:31.46 | izzyb | and then there's the whole issue of making it persistent :) |
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| 07:32.58 | woden1 | tarzeau: Know where I can find libmozjs0d ? |
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| 07:43.18 | oneal | Hi all |
| 07:43.36 | oneal | Hi all áëÿ |
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| 07:43.44 | oneal | Ýé |
| 07:43.46 | oneal | âû |
| 07:43.47 | owen1 | how to send videoout command from terminal? |
| 07:44.33 | oneal | What ? I you itself go;i)suit presently |
| 07:44.36 | oneal | !!!! |
| 07:44.37 | dpkg | "Multiple exclamation marks," he went on, shaking his head, "are a sure sign of a diseased mind." - Terry Pratchett, Eric |
| 07:45.08 | oneal | You are American Channels ? |
| 07:45.16 | bolt-work | oneal: english, yes |
| 07:45.29 | oneal | Wery God |
| 07:45.39 | bolt-work | ... |
| 07:45.42 | oneal | I From Russia |
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| 07:45.46 | oneal | Hi all |
| 07:46.18 | oneal | very Good |
| 07:46.25 | oneal | Is HerniA |
| 07:46.25 | PeterFA | oneal, #debian-ru |
| 07:46.32 | oneal | What ? |
| 07:46.37 | oneal | No |
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| 07:46.46 | PeterFA | oneal, that's a Russian Debian channel. |
| 07:47.23 | oneal | No No No , I Go To You |
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| 07:47.33 | PeterFA | ok |
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| 07:47.57 | oneal | What this City ? |
| 07:48.08 | bolt-work | oneal: you really need to go to #debian-ru |
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| 07:48.20 | oneal | NO ! :Z |
| 07:48.29 | oneal | i go to you |
| 07:48.39 | oneal | is American People |
| 07:48.59 | izzyb | well, it's an international channel |
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| 07:49.03 | bolt-work | oneal: your questions are not making sense. and I don't think even half of this channel is american |
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| 07:49.31 | oneal | I know |
| 07:49.50 | bolt-work | oneal: stop addressing us as the "american people" then :) |
| 07:50.40 | oneal | I respect american People... |
| 07:50.59 | liable | oneal: this channel isnt about america |
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| 07:51.06 | oneal | Im no Gangster |
| 07:51.19 | oneal | Im Russian |
| 07:51.22 | oneal | Man |
| 07:51.27 | izzyb | chuckles |
| 07:51.44 | izzyb | did you have a problem we can help you with? |
| 07:51.50 | bolt-work | oneal: I don't call you a test pilot, even though I have great respect for test pilots... |
| 07:52.28 | oneal | What This pilot ? |
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| 07:52.35 | bolt-work | no, the other one |
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| 07:52.48 | izzyb | chuckles |
| 07:53.06 | oneal | apologize to me |
| 07:53.13 | oneal | Im no Gangster |
| 07:53.13 | bolt-work | don't wanna |
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| 07:53.24 | bolt-work | oneal: that makes two of us |
| 07:53.37 | bolt-work | pirate! yarr! :D |
| 07:53.48 | oneal | FUUUU |
| 07:53.54 | oneal | NEA |
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| 07:53.55 | bolt-work | it's "foo" |
| 07:54.15 | oneal | it's Rusian ASS |
| 07:54.17 | oneal | ^) |
| 07:54.20 | oneal | :) |
| 07:54.28 | bolt-work | i'm not sure i want russian ass... |
| 07:55.07 | oneal | what ? all want Russian ASS |
| 07:55.16 | oneal | :) |
| 07:55.17 | bolt-work | if female, i might consider it. send pix |
| 07:55.30 | izzyb | lol |
| 07:56.09 | oneal | <izzyb : You insult me :Z |
| 07:56.24 | bolt-work | hadn't noticed |
| 07:56.25 | oneal | I insult you |
| 07:56.51 | izzyb | oneal, nope.was laughing at bolt-work |
| 07:56.52 | oneal | What this city ? |
| 07:57.02 | oneal | Ok =) |
| 07:57.04 | izzyb | we're all from different places |
| 07:57.28 | oneal | AAAAA |
| 07:57.31 | oneal | =) |
| 07:57.31 | izzyb | this isn't a place specific channel. its a debian support channel |
| 07:57.42 | izzyb | from Edmonton, Canada |
| 07:58.07 | bolt-work | oslo, norway! i fight polar bears on the way to work. |
| 07:58.26 | oneal | izzyb : you where live ? What City ? |
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| 07:58.39 | bolt-work | oneal: he just told you... |
| 07:58.54 | amphi | heh |
| 07:59.11 | izzyb | oneal, assuming all english speakers are amarican's can be taken as an insult by some. |
| 07:59.21 | oneal | bolt-work : Where ? |
| 07:59.29 | bolt-work | oneal: i also just told you |
| 07:59.35 | bolt-work | both in this channel |
| 07:59.42 | izzyb | I don't recommend it as a way to start a conversation |
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| 08:00.17 | oneal | izzyb : you very strange , I do not insult my residence |
| 08:00.24 | oneal | I livein Russia |
| 08:00.29 | izzyb | lol |
| 08:00.44 | oneal | What ? |
| 08:00.49 | oneal | :Z |
| 08:01.04 | bolt-work | oneal: we kind of got that part by now... |
| 08:01.04 | oneal | ÏÎÃÎÂÎÐÈÒÅ ÌÍÅ |
| 08:01.14 | fireba11 | you#re so much OT right now ^^ |
| 08:01.19 | izzyb | its just funny the broken English and misunderstandings |
| 08:01.43 | oneal | bolt-work : has not understood |
| 08:01.44 | bolt-work | fireba11: the people with questions have been up all night and are asleep :) |
| 08:01.53 | bolt-work | oneal: has not made bolt-work understand |
| 08:02.09 | oneal | Heh |
| 08:02.12 | izzyb | oneal, yeah, this isn't the channel for meeting friends, although that can happen if you bump into the same people over time |
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| 08:02.46 | oneal | izzyb : What This CHAT ? |
| 08:02.56 | oneal | Friends |
| 08:02.58 | oneal | JE |
| 08:03.06 | oneal | NE PIZDI |
| 08:03.12 | izzyb | this is a help channel for debian linux |
| 08:03.19 | oneal | OOO |
| 08:03.22 | bolt-work | oneal: not all chats are meant for chatting :) that's why we have channels dedicated to various specific topics |
| 08:03.49 | izzyb | is there a general chat channel on this server? |
| 08:03.59 | izzyb | never thought to look for one |
| 08:05.02 | oneal | <bolt-work : the ïà÷åìó you refuse to talk ,? it here is collected óäèâèüåëüíûé people and want with íìè speak :) |
| 08:05.14 | oneal | why you refuse to talk ,? it here is collected óäèâèüåëüíûé people and want with íìè speak |
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| 08:05.58 | oneal | where Channel acquaintance ? |
| 08:06.09 | oneal | Please Speak me |
| 08:06.26 | oneal | and I leave |
| 08:06.29 | oneal | :( |
| 08:06.41 | bolt-work | oneal: may i suggest #usa on irc.dal.net ? |
| 08:06.57 | oneal | banish me ? |
| 08:07.09 | bolt-work | oneal: no. just making a suggestion. |
| 08:07.13 | owen1 | how to send vide-out command from terminal? or is it a change in xorg.conf? |
| 08:07.16 | oneal | What This Channel |
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| 08:08.06 | oneal | Ok , Good Bye ALL :) |
| 08:08.15 | izzyb | waves |
| 08:08.22 | izzyb | hope you find what you looking for |
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| 08:08.40 | izzyb | that was entertaining...or something |
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| 08:13.12 | telmich | anyone else using xorg with a FX5200 under lenny here? |
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| 08:17.17 | Joint_ | hey i have a question how do you mount a windows hard drive? |
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| 08:20.55 | g1assano | quiero hablar |
| 08:21.10 | g1assano | la novia me monto los cachos lol esa perra. que hago, obvio q la voy a dejar pero la mando pa la mierda asi durisimo? o trato de hablar |
| 08:21.21 | g1assano | toy arrecho tengo ganas de mandarla pa la mierda |
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| 08:21.43 | g1assano | y tengo una amiga q le toy echando el ojo desde hace unos meses, la voy a llamar pa q se coma este |
| 08:21.56 | g1assano | asi pago la arrechera |
| 08:22.18 | g1assano | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:22.28 | g1assano | es raro osea si toy arrecho |
| 08:22.36 | g1assano | pero no tanto como pense |
| 08:23.11 | g1assano | toy lo suficiente pa terminar pero no se igual siente q tenemos q hablar, pero qedo yo como un cabron |
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| 08:23.39 | g1assano | mejor la pongo a q me haga lo que yo quiera en la cama y luego cuando terminemos le digo "FUERA" lmao |
| 08:23.50 | g1assano | y llamo a mi amiga y me la paso por el filo rofl |
| 08:24.12 | Joint_ | glassano #debian-es |
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| 08:33.44 | simonrvn | !tell g1assano -about es |
| 08:34.35 | Joint_ | simonrvn, how do you mount a windows hard drive? |
| 08:34.46 | simonrvn | with mount |
| 08:34.55 | Joint_ | im actually doing mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt but only root can view. those files how can i give normal users to view them? |
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| 08:35.24 | simonrvn | man mount; uid and gid options |
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| 08:38.34 | yang | any idea how to change the remote port for rsync , I was looking at "man rsync" it says --port= but it aint working |
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| 08:39.55 | Studiosus_ | Hi, all :) Yersturday my sata hdd failed to boot after I did mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda1 - it was Windows partition I wanted to make linux partition. Now grub doesn't boot and hdd 'makes noises' and there are error messages like 'Unrecovered read error - auto reallocate failed. I've been told it may be because of hdd can't read partition table. However, I can read partition table after I booted from live cd (although, boot took very long time). Is there any way |
| 08:39.55 | Studiosus_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:39.57 | petemc | yang: rsync -e 'ssh -p 2222' , or you can set it permanently for a host in ~/.ssh/config |
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| 08:42.24 | yang | ok |
| 08:43.55 | jelly-home | Studiosus_: sounds like the hardware is dying |
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| 08:45.10 | g1assano | lol at /msg dpkg mandriva |
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| 08:46.57 | Studiosus_ | jelly-home that would be very bad :( can't it be just that hdd misses partition table somehow or geometry of disk is broken? |
| 08:47.50 | simonrvn | seconding that dying hdd opinion |
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| 08:50.26 | flourish | hello, a question about apache2's redirection> |
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| 08:51.57 | flourish | when just has a virtualhost : my.domain, can i redirection www.my.domain to my.domain and tell the visitors that they visit a wrong URI and redirect to my.domain |
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| 08:53.04 | flourish | please give me some advices |
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| 08:53.31 | flourish | Redirect / http://my.domain ?? |
| 08:53.40 | themill | flourish: "ServerAlias www.my.domain" will let both names work transparently. (that goes in the VirtualHost section) |
| 08:53.51 | karsten | So, how to mess with your LCD brightness on a Lenove T61: for f in $( find . -name brightness ); do echo ">>>> $f <<<"; echo -n 20 > $f; sleep 1; echo -n 100 > $f; sleep 1; don |
| 08:54.01 | karsten | s/Lenove/Lenovo |
| 08:54.59 | flourish | themill: Does ServerAlias need another DNS record? But it is not a redirection i think |
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| 08:56.16 | themill | karsten: yuck! |
| 08:56.57 | themill | flourish: of course it needs a DNS record; if you don't have a DNS record for www then nothing will ever work. It also doesn't redirect, it just lets www. work as well. |
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| 08:58.47 | flourish | themill: maybe i see. thanks every much |
| 08:58.51 | arikonm | hi all! during netinst I couldn't connect to the network, and now I can't apt-get update. it says it can't temporarly resolv the mirror |
| 08:59.31 | googlah | make sure that you can connect, arikonm ? :-) |
| 08:59.41 | arikonm | googlah, I am |
| 09:00.05 | arikonm | I can ping the pc I'm connected too, I can ping the router, I can even ping any website |
| 09:00.06 | googlah | using static or dhcp? |
| 09:00.16 | arikonm | static, tunneling through another pc |
| 09:00.54 | arikonm | [router] --> [A] --> [B] I'm trying to install [B] |
| 09:01.04 | karsten | themill: You can write directly to the acpi file(s) in /proc, at least after you figure out which one to mess with. |
| 09:01.06 | googlah | then the apt-mirror maybe is down.. |
| 09:01.21 | googlah | can you try ping the apt-mirror? |
| 09:01.35 | karsten | themill: What that does is print out each file found on screen, then toggles the brightness from 20% to 100% |
| 09:01.44 | arikonm | googlah, I can update on this pc |
| 09:01.49 | themill | karsten: I know... I had to hack at hal to get mrs themill's backlight working sensibly. (but in /sys/ not /proc) |
| 09:01.52 | karsten | themill: At some point your screen with flicker, and that's the file you want to mess with. |
| 09:01.58 | arikonm | so the mirror must be up |
| 09:02.24 | karsten | didn't know that the mrs themill *had* a backlight ... |
| 09:02.33 | themill | :) |
| 09:02.40 | karsten | themill: So you can stare deeply into her eyes in the dark? |
| 09:02.44 | googlah | arikonm: You have 2 ethernet cards in [A], then? :) |
| 09:02.46 | themill | karsten: btw not all machines work with percentages; mrs themill's laptop wants 0-7 as a rnage. |
| 09:03.14 | arikonm | googlah, yes |
| 09:03.14 | karsten | themill: Yeah, that's why I was somewhat specific as to the model/manuf. here. |
| 09:03.32 | arikonm | googlah during the "base" installation, when I couldn't connect to the net, the install disk has only installed 8 packages |
| 09:04.43 | themill | karsten: /sys/class/backlight/actual_brightness and friends. Also see the powersave command and /usr/lib/hal/scripts/hal-system-lcd-{get,set}-brightness |
| 09:05.08 | googlah | arikonm: Yes I see. Any possibility to go [router] -> [B] straight? Perhaps solves it.. |
| 09:05.37 | arikonm | googlah, yes, maybe |
| 09:05.49 | arikonm | I'll try that too |
| 09:05.54 | themill | karsten: (the problem I had was that /sys/class/backlight/actual_brightness always returned 0 so get brightness was always zero so on each chvt or suspend the brightness would go to 0 and the "incremenetal" changing methods wouldn't work either. Enter hal hacking... |
| 09:06.09 | arikonm | googlah, but you know, that's not comfy ;) |
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| 09:07.38 | googlah | arikonm: Depends on what way you choose to see it. ;) but firewall in [A] is nice too. but if you can ping from [B] any website, I can't see where to problem is. :p |
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| 09:08.09 | arikonm | googlah, I don't have any firewall on [A] iirc |
| 09:08.23 | E-bola | Have anybody seen an issue with the debian installer and software raid, where the installer keeps saying you have to reboot before u do anything with the partitions? And after a reboot it gives the same error |
| 09:08.34 | arikonm | googlah, I think I'll try to go directly to the router |
| 09:08.51 | googlah | arikonm: Yes, but you are routing with iptables in [A], don't you? |
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| 09:12.35 | karsten | themill: IC. |
| 09:14.22 | E-bola | Cant you install grub on a software raid? |
| 09:14.56 | OpenTokix | E-bola: yes you can |
| 09:16.02 | E-bola | OpenTokix: the install er keeps claiming it cant write to the md device |
| 09:16.31 | OpenTokix | E-bola: strange |
| 09:16.45 | E-bola | Also doesnt it need to write it to each drive int he raid? I mean how would grub know about ur md devices? |
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| 09:17.41 | E-bola | http://bigdiver.wordpress.com/2007/03/15/software-raid-on-ubuntu-and-debian/ <<< this seems to describe my problem |
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| 09:28.26 | E-bola | When doing an expert installation you are asked if you want an initrd thats generic with all drivers, or a specific one. Do anybody know which one is installed in a normal debian install? |
| 09:29.03 | OpenTokix | E-bola: de one that is default, expert install is only low prio-questions compared to medium on normal |
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| 09:29.14 | OpenTokix | E-bola: so the one selected when the question came, is the one you get on a normal install |
| 09:30.06 | E-bola | ahh ok, that would be the generic one then |
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| 09:30.57 | arikonm | googlah, it works there |
| 09:31.07 | arikonm | but actually, I'm not amused |
| 09:31.11 | E-bola | I must admit i dont understand it though, i thought drivers coudl just be loaded as modules |
| 09:31.25 | arikonm | if I can't get the iwlwifi working, I can't update that pc |
| 09:31.34 | arikonm | googlah, yes, I1m using iptables |
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| 09:32.26 | arikonm | googlah, here's the link I've used to get it working: http://people.inf.elte.hu/radicsla/irasok/Internet_megosztas/Internet_megosztas.html |
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| 09:32.54 | arikonm | it's all in hungarian, but you can see the dummy script too, so you can get the basic idea what it does |
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| 09:48.07 | E-bola | I have a 2 software raid sets on the same 2 disks. a 20gb mirror and a 1900gb stripe. With hdparm the mirror reports to be able to do 95MB/sec and the stripe 110MB/sec |
| 09:48.17 | E-bola | Shouldnt the difference be bigger? |
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| 09:49.44 | Jonny | Hi all - is it possible to change the install source while the installer is running (but before I get to the 'install the base system' step) |
| 09:49.51 | enouf | use something like bonnie++ and lbs.sourceforge.net |
| 09:50.15 | Jonny | The situation is that the CD I am using is a little damaged, and one or two of the files on there cause problems when installed, so I was wondering if I can force apt to always use the network for those files |
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| 09:50.23 | yassine | hi everyone |
| 09:51.20 | bolt-work | hi yassine |
| 09:51.25 | bolt-work | ..whoever you are |
| 09:51.31 | binarymutant | Jonny: edit your /etc/apt/source.list and comment out the cd ones |
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| 09:51.59 | bolt-work | E-bola: is that read or write? |
| 09:52.01 | enouf | Jonny: if net is up, you could try apt-get on alt-f2 |
| 09:52.04 | Jonny | binarymutant, that can only happen once I've selected 'install the base system' though, right? /target/etc/apt doesn't exist until then |
| 09:52.12 | E-bola | bolt-work: Its per hdparm, so read |
| 09:52.26 | enouf | Jonny: alt-f4 will have messages |
| 09:52.27 | Jonny | binarymutant, if I wait 'til the errors come up then it all goes very ugly and I end up with half-installed packages and so on |
| 09:52.29 | bolt-work | E-bola: read isn't accelerated that much by striping. both will read from both drives |
| 09:52.41 | binarymutant | Jonny: oh your installing srry |
| 09:52.45 | bolt-work | E-bola: write can be close to cut in half |
| 09:52.54 | Jonny | enouf, I know - doesn't help me reconfigure apt though :) |
| 09:52.55 | binarymutant | Jonny: there's a net install iso |
| 09:53.06 | enouf | if the 20G parts are on the outer part of platters, that also helps |
| 09:53.08 | Jonny | binarymutant, yeah... trouble is I have no new CD-Rs with me :/ |
| 09:53.09 | E-bola | Why shouldnt read be accelerated. If the file si split in half on each disk, speed should be theorectical the double |
| 09:53.13 | binarymutant | :/ |
| 09:53.24 | binarymutant | Jonny: what about usb? |
| 09:53.26 | bolt-work | E-bola: read is accelerated. it's just accelerated equally by both |
| 09:53.37 | bolt-work | E-bola: because as i said, both setups can read from both drives |
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| 09:53.50 | bolt-work | E-bola: compare it to the performance of a single drive instead |
| 09:53.56 | E-bola | bolt: but its not accelrated at all hardly |
| 09:54.05 | E-bola | bolt-work: i did, 1 drive alone is around 95MB/sec |
| 09:54.15 | Jonny | binarymutant, hadn't thought of that... no USB sticks in the office though |
| 09:54.17 | yassine | anyone can help me with this apt-get issue please : http://rafb.net/p/w5dFxI53.html i get that error when ever i try to update or insall anything |
| 09:54.27 | E-bola | so the mirror apears not acc. at all, and the stripe about 10% acc. |
| 09:54.28 | binarymutant | Jonny: :/ |
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| 09:54.46 | bolt-work | E-bola: how are these drives connected to your system? |
| 09:54.48 | Jonny | binarymutant, I guess I could attempt a PXE boot, hehe. I think that's the only available option.. |
| 09:54.59 | binarymutant | Jonny: I was about to suggest that :) |
| 09:55.16 | E-bola | bolt-work: onboard sata controller on an Intel® ICH7-MDH chipset |
| 09:55.19 | enouf | you also need to flush your caches in between reads |
| 09:55.31 | Jonny | Yeah, I'll give that a go... |
| 09:56.16 | E-bola | Anyway to see in linux if a drive is running as SATA1 or 2? |
| 09:56.33 | enouf | dmesg, and other ways |
| 09:56.44 | bolt-work | isn't sata1 150mb/sec? |
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| 09:56.51 | E-bola | yes |
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| 09:56.55 | E-bola | and 2 is 300 |
| 09:56.59 | a-s | how can I build gtk (latest) on debian etch? |
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| 09:57.35 | enouf | use lenny |
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| 09:58.39 | bolt-work | E-bola: then you should be able to get top speed without sata2, methinks |
| 09:58.47 | bolt-work | E-bola: or better than you have anyway |
| 09:58.48 | bolt-work | hm.. |
| 09:59.24 | g1assano | 1 es mejor 2 9800Gx2 en quad sli o 2 gtx280? |
| 09:59.30 | bolt-work | sure it's actually using both drives correctly? this is a software raid, right? |
| 09:59.39 | bolt-work | g1assano: #debian-es |
| 09:59.41 | bolt-work | i guess |
| 09:59.53 | E-bola | bolt-work: ya im testing the /dev/md1 device. |
| 09:59.56 | bolt-work | or is that french? |
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| 09:59.58 | E-bola | Hmm dmesg looks a bit weird let me paste |
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| 10:00.33 | mhymn | a-s: for firefox? |
| 10:00.40 | bolt-work | E-bola: also check mdadm -QD /dev/md1 ..i think that's the command |
| 10:01.20 | yassine | bolt-work, maybe you have an idea whats wrong with my etch box : http://rafb.net/p/w5dFxI53.html i get that error when ever i try to update or insall anything |
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| 10:02.35 | E-bola | bolt-work: you mind taking a look at that? |
| 10:02.41 | E-bola | http://paste.debian.net/19839/ |
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| 10:05.01 | lodder_ | Is there a way to lower the power consumption of a debian server ? |
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| 10:05.39 | bolt-work | yassine: reinstall python, i guess. you should post such questions to the channel |
| 10:06.21 | yassine | bolt-work,thanks i already did asked see above but noone answers |
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| 10:07.06 | yassine | bolt-work, how would i do reinstall python while its one of the core packages that aptitude uses and apt too ? |
| 10:07.31 | bolt-work | yassine: apt-get install --reinstall, methinks |
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| 10:07.41 | solsTiCe | hi. i remember using a debian(?) tool to rank mirror by their ping or other thing. |
| 10:08.05 | enouf | !apt-spy |
| 10:08.05 | dpkg | apt-spy is probably a secret! Shh! 'Mirror, mirror, on the wall... who is the fastest of them all?' Note that it will overwrite your sources.list when finished, so (1) cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.mybak (2) apt-get install apt-spy (3) apt-spy update; apt-spy -d [stable,testing,unstable] -a [Africa,Asia,Europe,North-America,Oceania,South-America] (4) fix your sources.list by adding back in any other mirrors you had been using. |
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| 10:08.56 | enouf | the other one was netdetect-apt or something |
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| 10:09.05 | solsTiCe | and it use another tool ? net-something ? |
| 10:09.06 | bolt-work | E-bola: looks normal to me. try the mdadm thing. see if the raid itself is functioning correctly |
| 10:09.16 | E-bola | bolt-work: i did, looks fine |
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| 10:09.25 | E-bola | but i cant get above 113MB/sec with hdparm :( |
| 10:09.38 | solsTiCe | enouf: ok |
| 10:10.13 | enouf | solsTiCe: netselect-apt i think |
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| 10:11.12 | solsTiCe | yeah |
| 10:11.19 | bolt-work | E-bola: if there's nothing on there, try remaking the striped raid with a different block size, perhaps? |
| 10:11.35 | solsTiCe | enouf: thnx |
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| 10:12.12 | enouf | your ncq is non-existant |
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| 10:13.51 | E-bola | bolt-work: hmm ya thats also a tuning option |
| 10:14.00 | E-bola | but that shouldnt have THAT much to say should it? |
| 10:14.03 | bolt-work | E-bola: I think it's good if the file system block size adds up to the stripe size and such. google is your friend though |
| 10:14.05 | E-bola | its 128kb stripe size |
| 10:14.09 | enouf | not block, chunk |
| 10:14.18 | E-bola | or wait i dunno actualy, since i used the installer to create it |
| 10:14.32 | E-bola | enouf: isnt ncq build into sata? |
| 10:14.46 | bolt-work | enouf: ah. knew there was something wrong there. thanks :) |
| 10:14.47 | enouf | if it is, it isn't working |
| 10:14.54 | E-bola | enouf: how can you tell? |
| 10:15.00 | enouf | your paste |
| 10:15.22 | bolt-work | isn't that just on sata2? |
| 10:15.31 | E-bola | Well this IS supposed to be sata2 |
| 10:15.34 | enouf | see linux-ata.org to see how maybe to turn it on |
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| 10:16.12 | a-s | mhymn: not only for firefox |
| 10:16.14 | E-bola | the bios have a few settings. like if u wanna run in sata only, enhanced mode, auto etc |
| 10:16.20 | E-bola | they dont seem to affect this though |
| 10:16.29 | bolt-work | if that's off for both disks, you should still see a performance increase with using a raid though |
| 10:16.31 | a-s | I want the latest gtk+ for the whole system |
| 10:16.54 | E-bola | i do see an increase of about 20mb/sec |
| 10:17.07 | E-bola | 1 disk is around 95MB/sec, the stripe is around 112MB/sec |
| 10:17.27 | mhymn | a-s: there is an easy way for firefox, i think it might be helpful for others too, take a look at http://www.linuxscrew.com/2008/06/21/install-firefox-3-in-debian-etch/ |
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| 10:18.16 | enouf | E-bola: if there's an ahci mode, enable it, if not, enable raid mode to enable ahci |
| 10:18.18 | ^shark_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:18.49 | E-bola | enouf: hmm thats interesting |
| 10:18.57 | E-bola | there was NO ahci mdoe, which i didnt understand |
| 10:19.00 | E-bola | only ide or RAID |
| 10:19.27 | E-bola | thats what im wondering, if my bios is showing the disks as normal ide ones, instaid of using ahci, ive seen that cripple performance before |
| 10:19.37 | enouf | right, budget chipset |
| 10:19.53 | a-s | mhymn: thanks |
| 10:19.58 | E-bola | enouf: you think it woudl make a difference to change to raid? |
| 10:20.54 | quimnut | well the difference between ich9 and ich9r is ahci and ncq so its worth a shot |
| 10:20.56 | enouf | it might |
| 10:21.36 | quimnut | ncq ftw |
| 10:22.01 | E-bola | omg |
| 10:22.09 | E-bola | i thought ncq was always enabled/availeble |
| 10:22.11 | E-bola | crap producers :/ |
| 10:23.06 | yassine | i can not reinstall python when i try to apt-get --reinstall python i gets: E: Invalid operation python |
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| 10:23.28 | bolt-work | yassine: install --reinstall |
| 10:23.37 | mhymn | or rtfm |
| 10:23.41 | bolt-work | or that |
| 10:24.08 | bolt-work | enouf: where do you see if ahci and/or ncq is enabled? suddenly got the urge to check my own raid :) |
| 10:24.15 | E-bola | but eouf/bolt-work: What i dont get is that the drives alone can do ~96MB/sec. Shouldnt software raid then allmost double that figure, regardless of controller features? |
| 10:24.25 | enouf | bolt-work: in BIOS, under Sata drive settings |
| 10:24.46 | bolt-work | enouf: crap. can't do that from work :) |
| 10:24.49 | enouf | bolt-work: ncq in dmesg - see his as an example |
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| 10:25.04 | bolt-work | enouf: that i can do :D |
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| 10:25.52 | bolt-work | enouf: ata1.00 n sectors, multi 16: LBA48 NCQ (depth 0/32) <-- that good? |
| 10:26.22 | enouf | bolt-work: as i mentioned - another way is in /sys/../../../.. but see linux-ata.org to find out |
| 10:26.35 | E-bola | hmm enouf, i think you might have something. It says choose IDE, to have the sata drives emulate IDE. That doesnt sound good for performance |
| 10:26.38 | enouf | bolt-work: 31/32 == good |
| 10:26.49 | enouf | 0/32 == no workey |
| 10:27.01 | bolt-work | hm.. |
| 10:27.05 | E-bola | lol i coudl change to raid, isntaid of ide and still boot, neat |
| 10:28.04 | E-bola | ta1.00: 1953525168 sectors, multi 16: LBA48 NCQ (depth 31/32) |
| 10:28.05 | E-bola | :) |
| 10:28.05 | enouf | something like /sys/block/sda/../.../queue_depth or something |
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| 10:28.23 | enouf | E-bola: \o/ |
| 10:28.26 | E-bola | ata1: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 300) |
| 10:28.30 | E-bola | hmm but thats sata1 right? |
| 10:28.33 | quimnut | yeh |
| 10:28.37 | enouf | yep |
| 10:28.40 | quimnut | is yer drive jumpered to 1.5? |
| 10:28.56 | E-bola | hmm somebody else mentioned jumpers. Do wd drives have those? |
| 10:29.02 | E-bola | ive never seen sata mode jumpers on hdd's to be honest |
| 10:29.05 | E-bola | weeee |
| 10:29.05 | quimnut | i had to jumper my drive to 1.5 for my older mobo |
| 10:29.08 | E-bola | 206MB/sec |
| 10:29.09 | E-bola | :) |
| 10:29.13 | E-bola | loves eouf |
| 10:29.26 | enouf | blushes |
| 10:29.55 | enouf | wait, ... a disease loves me? |
| 10:29.58 | E-bola | :P |
| 10:30.05 | E-bola | ur already infected, bad luck huh? |
| 10:30.06 | enouf | hides |
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| 10:30.57 | ohmygodvideowasw | urgh! Why is it that, upon reboot, my xorg server fails to come up on account of fglrx not being loaded properly? |
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| 10:31.28 | ohmygodvideowasw | i installed it from non-free, and aticonfig -initial'd it for a working xorg.conf |
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| 10:38.04 | enouf | hello Mr. Malloy ;-) |
| 10:38.12 | seekingtruth | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:38.51 | a-s | I tried to install gtk 2.10 and I crashed my syste, |
| 10:38.53 | a-s | system |
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| 10:42.14 | enouf | ohmygodvideowasw: is fglrx listed in /etc/modules? (guessing) |
| 10:42.44 | a-s | it says to run Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution), and if I do so it tries to delete almost all the sytem |
| 10:42.50 | a-s | what shell I do? |
| 10:42.59 | ohmygodvideowasw | enouf: it wasn'tpreviously |
| 10:43.05 | ohmygodvideowasw | enouf: but i've added it since |
| 10:43.12 | ohmygodvideowasw | and modprobed fglrx prior to testing |
| 10:43.25 | enouf | ohmygodvideowasw: and . .does X work if you bring it up after boot manually? |
| 10:43.59 | ohmygodvideowasw | enouf: what do you mean? |
| 10:44.09 | ohmygodvideowasw | i've been calling it via startx (no dm for me) |
| 10:44.38 | enouf | i mean; is your issue only a rebooting issue? or does X not work at all due to buggy or misconfigured drivers |
| 10:45.20 | enouf | what does "not being loaded properly" mean exactly? |
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| 10:45.23 | ohmygodvideowasw | it does not work at all. Xorg.log shows that fglrx fails |
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| 10:45.40 | enouf | ok - it's Xorg.0.log :-) |
| 10:45.58 | ohmygodvideowasw | yeah, brief |
| 10:46.01 | enouf | so, now, why is it failing .. hrm .. no clue |
| 10:46.19 | ohmygodvideowasw | especially when considering that it worked prior to a reboot |
| 10:46.34 | ohmygodvideowasw | and no rc files were modified, nor packages installed |
| 10:46.34 | enouf | oh, i see |
| 10:46.56 | ohmygodvideowasw | though i did notice an atievents at boot |
| 10:46.58 | enouf | well, that sounds like something else is loading that shouldn't be |
| 10:47.34 | ohmygodvideowasw | back in a boot |
| 10:47.50 | enouf | or, something is missing .. hrm, what's in /etc/modules ? and is fglrx or similar blacklisted? |
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| 10:58.29 | tompaw | hi |
| 10:58.58 | tompaw | I'm trying to install debian using netboot |
| 10:59.20 | tompaw | in tftpd's log I see: Oct 23 13:00:28 dump tftpd[8766]: tftpd: trying to get file: pxelinux.cfg/default |
| 10:59.36 | tompaw | and then Oct 23 13:00:28 dump tftpd[8766]: tftpd: serving file from /srv/tftp |
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| 10:59.42 | tompaw | but it doesn't bring up the menu |
| 10:59.49 | tompaw | I thought it might be due to symlinks |
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| 10:59.56 | tompaw | (all tftp directory is 777) |
| 11:00.03 | HalphaZ | ciao a tutti |
| 11:00.09 | tompaw | BUT pxelinux.0 is also a symlink, and it works fine |
| 11:00.23 | HalphaZ | ho appena installato debian da business card su una vm di virtualbox |
| 11:00.27 | tompaw | what could be the problem? using the etch's tftpd and latest netboot.tgz |
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| 11:00.40 | sissonnon | ciao |
| 11:00.42 | HalphaZ | l'immagine si chiama debian-40r4a-i386-businesscard |
| 11:00.42 | sissonnon | !list |
| 11:00.42 | dpkg | one warez list being sent to sissonnon |
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| 11:01.12 | HalphaZ | ho installato il minimo possibile: al momento di scegliere ho deselezionato sia desktop che sistema base |
| 11:01.27 | HalphaZ | ora mi chiedevo... questa è la rc della 4 stable, vero? |
| 11:01.54 | HalphaZ | c'è un modo per aggiornare i pacchetti alla versione testing? |
| 11:02.03 | HalphaZ | si devono aggiornare i repository? basta? |
| 11:02.23 | HalphaZ | se volgio installare l'ambiente grafico quali repo devo agiungere? |
| 11:02.45 | Shadur | HalphaZ: English. |
| 11:02.53 | HalphaZ | ops :-) |
| 11:03.01 | themill | !it |
| 11:03.02 | dpkg | Ciao, Prego utilizzi #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in Italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help. |
| 11:03.02 | bolt-work | HalphaZ: #debian-es |
| 11:03.18 | HalphaZ | it :-) |
| 11:03.25 | bolt-work | #debian-it then |
| 11:03.27 | themill | bolt-work: close :) wrong romance language |
| 11:03.36 | bolt-work | themill: dammit. never was good at that |
| 11:03.47 | bolt-work | themill: wanna go out to dinner? |
| 11:03.49 | bolt-work | :P |
| 11:03.58 | themill | aww shucks! |
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| 11:11.07 | enouf | laughs watching mrs themill bash themill over the head with the rolling pin :-p |
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| 11:14.06 | BRB_RSI | hey all - is there any way to remove config files that were used by uninstalled packages automatically? |
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| 11:17.47 | bolt-work | 1 minute... way to be patient |
| 11:18.04 | mhymn | heh |
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| 11:18.20 | enouf | he has 'brb' right in the nick :-P |
| 11:19.29 | enouf | gets a kick out of the drive-bys though - that's why i wait many times now |
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| 11:24.23 | enouf | maybe he was a ubuntu user, and the guilt of asking in here took all of one minute to kick in :-P |
| 11:24.39 | Junior_100 | hello guys... |
| 11:24.54 | bolt-work | enouf: according to linux-ata.org/faq.html, my ncq is present but disabled. it also states it should be enabled automatically. it doesn't seem to list a reason why it wouldn't be. any ideas? |
| 11:25.08 | bolt-work | !greet Junior_100 |
| 11:25.08 | dpkg | Tag, Junior_100 |
| 11:25.14 | Junior_100 | how can i see the administrator messages when startup? (I clicked in "dismiss" and i'd like to see the messages again?) |
| 11:25.26 | Junior_100 | again!* |
| 11:25.53 | bolt-work | huh? |
| 11:25.59 | enouf | bolt-work: either your drives, or your controller doesn't support it, or hasn't enabled it - there's more info on other parts of the site |
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| 11:27.00 | bolt-work | enouf: they both should. but i seem to remember sata is set to ide in bios. i'll check that when i get home |
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| 11:28.11 | rebel_kid | how can i set my timezone? |
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| 11:28.25 | enouf | !set the time |
| 11:28.26 | dpkg | To set the time in debian, use date --set. The truly enlightened user, however, will install ntp and adjtimex to have their clock set automatically on reboot and slewed to match time servers. You may also need to run tzconfig (sarge, etch) or dpkg-reconfigure tzdata (lenny, sid) and make sure you have the right UTC setting in /etc/default/rcS first. |
| 11:28.55 | Junior_100 | it's complicated to explain... i don't know the application name... but let's go :) |
| 11:28.55 | Junior_100 | when i start my session and a new message (advice) from admin exists, debian shows a window with the message... the window has the message, a X drawed and a "dismiss" button... for example: admin needs advice all users that in "day x" all servers will be turn off... so, he sends the message to everybody... |
| 11:29.22 | Junior_100 | as i sayed, i don't know the application name... =\ |
| 11:30.46 | ldvx | Got a quick question. I am installing debian on a software raid on sdb and sdc and on sda i have grub installed on the mbr on a partition with ubuntu. I don't need to install grub nor lilo on the installation of debian, but just run it from the grub i already have installed, right?? |
| 11:30.58 | bolt-work | Junior_100: you need to figure that part out. this is not debian-related, even if you run it on debian. it has to do with your specific application and its options. sorry |
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| 11:31.22 | bolt-work | ldvx: --> |
| 11:31.44 | ldvx | bolt-work: ? |
| 11:31.48 | bolt-work | ldvx: right |
| 11:31.49 | Junior_100 | humm... bolt-work: it's shows the message: "this is the message of day"... any ideas? |
| 11:32.02 | ldvx | thanks bolt-work |
| 11:32.04 | bolt-work | Junior_100: no clue. ask your administrator |
| 11:32.14 | Junior_100 | bolt-work, thx anyway =) |
| 11:32.20 | bolt-work | Junior_100: np |
| 11:32.38 | enouf | what? |
| 11:32.52 | liable | Junior_100: xmotd? |
| 11:33.02 | enouf | ldvx: i would install grub into each drives' MBRs |
| 11:34.52 | Junior_100 | liable: i think no, the window is a GUI-window (in a X widgetset)... |
| 11:35.09 | ldvx | why is that enouf ? |
| 11:35.15 | bolt-work | Junior_100: go ask whoever posts messages there already |
| 11:35.22 | enouf | ldvx: for recovery .. in case |
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| 11:36.49 | ldvx | oh, alright. then i will :) |
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| 11:46.18 | dudeman | good morning |
| 11:46.42 | dudeman | whoah how the heck did i wake up so early |
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| 11:52.53 | flourish | hello. I want to configure my wireless network, but i don't know while driver should be used. How can i know my wireless card type. lspci? |
| 11:53.11 | flourish | sorry , while => which |
| 11:53.15 | rvsjoen | its a good start |
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| 11:53.39 | ausloki_ | hello |
| 11:53.47 | ausloki_ | what is the difference between -X and -Y |
| 11:53.50 | ausloki_ | is -Y more secure and should always be used for X forwading? |
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| 11:58.39 | apt_get | I have a USB modem and when i connect it, in /dev/ it creates ttyUSB0 and ttyUSB1. How can i make with udev.rules that the first devices always have a symlink to /dev/MyModem |
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| 11:59.41 | xaashi | hi any one have any idea how to create a bootable iso image using genisoimage or mkisofs, all the damn formats are confusing the hell out of me |
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| 12:02.19 | bolt-work | xaashi: may i suggest finding a howto on that? |
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| 12:03.01 | xaashi | bolt-work, i've been going through them for a few hours now |
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| 12:03.07 | xaashi | this is a last resort |
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| 12:07.17 | cyzie | hi, when we generate a certificate for the webserver, is there a CA offer free signing of the cert? |
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| 12:10.14 | tuxcrafter | cyzie: cacert.org ? |
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| 12:11.12 | cyzie | tuxcrafter, thanks, i will chck it out. |
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| 12:13.39 | enouf | where |
| 12:13.47 | enouf | 'd s/he go? |
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| 12:18.28 | enouf | bolt-work: next time, just send them here http://syslinux.zytor.com/wiki/index.php/ISOLINUX |
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| 12:24.32 | bolt-work | enouf: ah |
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| 12:27.50 | ootput | hi guys, any of you using latest fglrx drivers for ati on their lenny 64bit system? i can't seem to load up the generated module (backtrace in xorg.0.log,) and was wondering if u had any luck with an older set of catalysts |
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| 12:33.23 | spx2 | how do I convert pdf -> doc or pdf -> jpeg ? |
| 12:34.39 | mhymn | !googleit |
| 12:34.39 | dpkg | it has been said that googleit is #debian is not your search engine. |
| 12:34.53 | Trewas | spx2: convert can do the latter, pdf->doc is dodgy at best |
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| 12:38.45 | zxxd | any reason why w3m and links would get stuck on a website with page redirection |
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| 12:39.12 | tarzeau | zxxd: which website? |
| 12:39.18 | tarzeau | zxxd: links or elinks? |
| 12:39.35 | zxxd | elinks and links |
| 12:39.59 | Wazee | when will the next release of Debian will be released ? |
| 12:40.11 | zxxd | do you have an example of any webpage that does redirection ? this website i am testing with is kinda private |
| 12:40.25 | tarzeau | zxxd: there's different kinds of redirections |
| 12:40.25 | mhymn | !tell Wazee about wwlr |
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| 12:40.34 | tarzeau | zxxd: i never had problems w/ links,links2 |
| 12:40.47 | Akuw | i need to encrypt a whole dir, can i do it with mcrypt? |
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| 12:40.56 | enouf | zxxd: links2, no issues |
| 12:41.08 | Wazee | scuse, don't understant mhymn |
| 12:41.40 | enouf | oh wait - erm, git sites seem to need a reload |
| 12:41.53 | mhymn | Wazee: lenny (the next realese) will not release until there are no more release critical bugs |
| 12:41.53 | zxxd | how do you reload |
| 12:41.55 | zxxd | with links |
| 12:41.57 | enouf | like http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=blobdiff;f=sound/pci/hda/hda_codec.c;h=ab3bb7997cd26bf3d0831ae666182c4c856488e4;hp=37c413923db8a4762da4e7af66989af1e5e3d1a4;hb=09f99701393c7b66bde01df6c292fe5d9f843033;hpb=bf277785d6921b8a9f8339ad5ad632aef6cae73c for example |
| 12:42.01 | enouf | omg |
| 12:42.20 | enouf | ctrl-r |
| 12:42.22 | Wazee | thanks mhymn |
| 12:42.27 | Wazee | bye, c u |
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| 12:45.47 | Joint_ | im actually doing mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt but only root can view. those files how can i give normal users to view them? |
| 12:45.58 | enouf | zxxd: <esc> to toggle menu/address bar |
| 12:46.17 | zxxd | enouf, tarzeau https://87.255.32.104 |
| 12:46.20 | zxxd | this site per example |
| 12:46.27 | enouf | Joint_: pmount? |
| 12:46.38 | postfix | Joint_, mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt -o umask=0777 |
| 12:46.39 | postfix | :D |
| 12:46.54 | Joint_ | postfix, thnx |
| 12:46.59 | postfix | nothing. |
| 12:47.01 | postfix | ;) |
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| 12:47.04 | enouf | hrm, or -o users? |
| 12:47.47 | Joint_ | postfix, same crap |
| 12:47.56 | enouf | crap, maybe gid=xxxx,uid=xxxx for group/userids |
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| 12:48.30 | enouf | !ntfsro |
| 12:48.31 | dpkg | add a line similar to: /dev/hdd1 /mnt/hdd1 ntfs ro,user,auto,gid=24,uid=1001,fmask=0333,dmask=0222 to your fstab... change the hdxx and uid, and maybe the gid if you want. |
| 12:48.45 | zxxd | help :) |
| 12:48.59 | zxxd | tarzeau, you see how that site dosen't work with elinks and w3m ? |
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| 12:49.42 | enouf | zxxd: links2 gives me a Javascript redirection popup |
| 12:49.56 | zxxd | and it works? |
| 12:49.57 | tarzeau | zxxd: it worked for me |
| 12:50.02 | zxxd | tarzeau, what ver? |
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| 12:50.16 | tarzeau | zxxd: the one with javascript |
| 12:50.26 | zxxd | how can i check if i have javascript |
| 12:50.27 | tarzeau | zxxd: it's not good to make redirects w/ javascript |
| 12:50.36 | tarzeau | zxxd: what version of links do you have? |
| 12:50.39 | enouf | i can [allow] [reject] [kill script] |
| 12:50.48 | tarzeau | zxxd: do links2 https://87.255.32.104 |
| 12:50.55 | tarzeau | zxxd: your links probably is elinks |
| 12:51.03 | tarzeau | since elinks wrongly provides links |
| 12:51.08 | zxxd | -su: links2: command not found |
| 12:51.15 | enouf | !installit |
| 12:51.15 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! *** Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. If someone suggests an application to you, it's highly likely that it's available via apt-get or aptitude. |
| 12:51.18 | tarzeau | zxxd: apt-get install links or links2 |
| 12:51.34 | tarzeau | zxxd: the problem is if you have elinks, it also provides /usr/bin/links which doesn't work because it sucks |
| 12:51.35 | zxxd | ELinks 0.11.1 (built on Oct 3 2007 23:25:18 |
| 12:51.44 | tarzeau | zxxd: install links, and it'll work |
| 12:52.04 | enouf | https://87.255.32.104/D03392F15AB8C595C0EF8D0E |
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| 12:52.11 | enouf | <HTML><BODY>404 Object Not Found.</BODY></HTML> |
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| 12:52.45 | zxxd | so it works or not? |
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| 12:54.35 | zxxd | ok guess it works |
| 12:54.55 | Gluon | Hi, I have trouble with my soundcard (CMI8738) on debian sid with linux-image-6.2.26-1 |
| 12:55.28 | Gluon | I updated from 2.6.22 yesterday |
| 12:55.37 | Gluon | now no sound device at all. |
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| 12:55.56 | enouf | !tell Gluon -about soundcheck |
| 12:56.02 | Gluon | I have tried many ways of other friends online |
| 12:56.03 | enouf | !tell Gluon -about speaker-test |
| 12:56.11 | enouf | !tell Gluon -about alsa checklist |
| 12:56.17 | enouf | there ;-) |
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| 12:56.32 | Gluon | oh, thanks. Is there a bot ready to help :P |
| 12:56.36 | Gluon | nice |
| 12:57.31 | Gluon | !tell -about soundcheck |
| 12:57.37 | Gluon | -about soundcheck |
| 12:57.37 | Gluon | :) |
| 12:57.48 | enouf | !tell Gluon -about msgthebot |
| 12:58.19 | Gluon | Thanks enouf, let me try |
| 12:58.21 | Gluon | :) |
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| 12:58.39 | tdawgedogg | oh snap |
| 12:58.48 | tdawgedogg | i was in #debian on OFTC |
| 12:58.49 | tdawgedogg | what is that |
| 12:59.06 | jelly | tdawgedogg: that's the official one |
| 12:59.12 | enouf | dat be dat |
| 12:59.28 | enouf | dat wat dat tis |
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| 13:00.48 | rmrfchik | I wonder is there way to sync 2 svn repos? |
| 13:00.53 | rmrfchik | on regular basis |
| 13:01.02 | Gluon | !tell GluonATechie -about alsa checklist |
| 13:01.03 | rmrfchik | oneway sync is need |
| 13:01.08 | tdawgedogg | so can someone friendly help me with a network issue im having :P |
| 13:01.22 | enouf | ... |
| 13:01.32 | tdawgedogg | i can connect ok using a router but when i connect straight to my modem i cant get the internet to work |
| 13:01.42 | tdawgedogg | worked fine in windows... |
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| 13:01.52 | enouf | Gluon: you do "/msg dpkg alsa checklist" in your irc client |
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| 13:02.32 | Gluon | ah OK, I just see the PM of dpkg |
| 13:02.43 | Gluon | enouf, thanks |
| 13:02.44 | Gluon | :) |
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| 13:03.33 | oklinux | where is the folder for all the wm list in xsession ? |
| 13:03.36 | enouf | tdawgedogg: check your output of arp and route? |
| 13:03.57 | tdawgedogg | enouf: can you be a little more descriptive...linux noob here...sorry! |
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| 13:04.21 | enouf | tdawgedogg: well, what's in /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 13:04.31 | enouf | dhcp? auto? |
| 13:05.58 | tdawgedogg | auto lo, iface lo inet loopback, iface eth1 inet dhcp, auto eth1, iface eth0 inet dhcp, auto eht0 |
| 13:06.07 | tdawgedogg | the , means return line :) |
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| 13:08.23 | enouf | you can use \n to signify newline ;-) |
| 13:08.24 | tdawgedogg | should i change dhcp to auto after iface eth1 inet dhcp for eth1 and eth0? |
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| 13:08.52 | enouf | tdawgedogg: what does 'route' say? |
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| 13:09.06 | anaximander | Has anyone here experience with netbooting debian and then preseeding the installer over the network? |
| 13:09.32 | tdawgedogg | there is no route in interfaces.conf |
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| 13:09.46 | enouf | tdawgedogg: route and arp are commands |
| 13:10.01 | tarzeau | anaximander: yes, wiki.debian.org/Enterprise |
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| 13:10.11 | tdawgedogg | just type it in terminal? |
| 13:10.16 | tdawgedogg | route and arp? |
| 13:10.21 | enouf | ... |
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| 13:10.32 | enouf | one |
| 13:10.33 | enouf | at |
| 13:10.34 | enouf | a |
| 13:10.36 | enouf | time |
| 13:10.49 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:12.35 | tdawgedogg | i get nothing for route...shoes titles such as destination gateway genmask flags metrilc ref use and iface.........but no data underneith it |
| 13:12.42 | tdawgedogg | as for arp it outputs nothing |
| 13:13.28 | enouf | tdawgedogg: right - so, you have no route, no gateway |
| 13:13.34 | tdawgedogg | exactly! |
| 13:13.58 | tdawgedogg | not communicating with my modem i guess |
| 13:14.12 | tdawgedogg | it works though....got on fine in windows.. |
| 13:14.26 | tdawgedogg | but im trying to become a window hater and this isnt helping |
| 13:14.34 | enouf | tdawgedogg: your cable modem isn't providing/acting as one .. right - so, but you have 2 eths |
| 13:15.00 | tdawgedogg | yes...2 nics on mobo |
| 13:15.13 | enouf | tdawgedogg: this really is not a windows vs linux issue - windows just doesn't give a shit how it connects |
| 13:15.15 | anaximander | tarzeau: I'll look thanks |
| 13:15.21 | tdawgedogg | haha |
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| 13:15.38 | tdawgedogg | well i dont give a shit how i connect either :) |
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| 13:15.55 | tdawgedogg | might just go grab his router and connect it again...pos netgear |
| 13:16.05 | enouf | tdawgedogg: does ifconfig -a show both eth0 and eth1 as UP |
| 13:16.07 | enouf | ? |
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| 13:16.39 | enouf | tdawgedogg: do you know the address of the modem? |
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| 13:17.21 | tdawgedogg | no |
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| 13:17.27 | tdawgedogg | its not one of those modems with a built in router |
| 13:17.37 | tdawgedogg | all i have is mac info on the side |
| 13:17.57 | enouf | tdawgedogg: if so; route add default gw ip.ip.ip.ip dev ethX |
| 13:18.14 | enouf | tdawgedogg: well - have you never accessed it? |
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| 13:18.32 | enouf | tdawgedogg: my cable modem happens to be 192.x.x.x |
| 13:18.36 | tdawgedogg | not my modem...never had the need 2 |
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| 13:18.50 | enouf | tdawgedogg: never curious? :-P |
| 13:18.59 | enouf | tdawgedogg: google the make/model |
| 13:19.05 | tdawgedogg | i honestly didnt know i could...i loggin to router all the itme |
| 13:19.09 | tdawgedogg | ok |
| 13:19.23 | tdawgedogg | well im just gonna plug router back in |
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| 13:19.30 | enouf | no no no ! |
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| 13:19.33 | enouf | :-) |
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| 13:19.44 | tdawgedogg | ah the router will be in the config sooner or later |
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| 13:20.00 | tdawgedogg | u was just getting like extremely slow speeds on my 10 mbit network |
| 13:20.13 | enouf | oh, you mean to retrieve the modem address? or .. inet connectivity? |
| 13:20.18 | tdawgedogg | so im placing the blame on shity cat 6 cable i made...so i using stock cat 5 now to see if its faster |
| 13:20.30 | enouf | wait, what? |
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| 13:20.37 | enouf | slow LAN speeds? |
| 13:21.03 | tdawgedogg | yes updating from the resp at like below 10kb...loading webpages in 30 seconds |
| 13:21.04 | enouf | use ethtool to ensure link status/speed |
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| 13:21.23 | enouf | loading webpages from where? |
| 13:21.35 | tdawgedogg | um anything...google lol |
| 13:21.41 | enouf | you might just have nasty /etc/resolv.conf |
| 13:21.48 | enouf | that's not LAN |
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| 13:21.54 | enouf | google != LAN :-p |
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| 13:22.36 | tdawgedogg | this is a fresh install of deb4 amd64 btw |
| 13:23.10 | enouf | i gotta get going - hope i gave you some clues |
| 13:23.33 | NinjaMan | tdawgedogg: are you using any proxy or anonymising software? |
| 13:24.00 | NinjaMan | tdawgedogg: like tor, anon-proxy etc... |
| 13:24.07 | abrotman | tdawgedogg: how long to dns lookups take? |
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| 13:24.11 | abrotman | erm .. how long do |
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| 13:24.35 | stevil | i have a system which has a directory with incredible a lot of files, and i try to remove this directory, i'm getting a system load of 130, and then the system reboots |
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| 13:25.00 | tdawgedogg | no...this is a residential network...no fancy proxy...as far as dns lookup i dunno stand by |
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| 13:27.27 | enouf | stevil: ext2/3 fs? |
| 13:27.35 | stevil | enouf: ext3 |
| 13:27.48 | enouf | stevil: use tune2fs to see if dir_index is enabled, if not, might want to add it |
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| 13:28.02 | tdawgedogg | could shity network cables cause network instability...cause i made like 5 cat 6 cables...most of the time there okay...but sometiems the network just acts weird... |
| 13:28.06 | stevil | enouf: k cool let me check that hold on |
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| 13:28.32 | nevyn | tdawgedogg: yes. |
| 13:28.44 | nevyn | making cables is no longer worth it in my opinion. |
| 13:28.52 | petemc | tdawgedogg: why are you using cat 6 ? |
| 13:29.50 | stevil | enouf: and if not, can i add it afterwards? |
| 13:30.37 | NinjaMan | tdawgedogg: use ifconfig to check for collisions and errors - if there are a significant number then that can be indicative |
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| 13:32.23 | enouf | stevil: i really have to run now - but, yes, man tune2fs (use -l to see features enabled, and see ^O, iirc) careful - have backups, understand what you are doing PRIOR |
| 13:32.29 | tdawgedogg | gb network ftw...i have huge shared files over the network nuff said |
| 13:32.33 | nevyn | the problem is particularly with gigabit gear.. if you mess up twist ratios or something at your termination point you can alter the characteristics of the cable enough to cause issues. |
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| 13:33.08 | stevil | enouf: k thanks |
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| 13:33.30 | petemc | tdawgedogg: you can do gigabit with cat5e |
| 13:33.37 | tdawgedogg | ive had so many probs with deb so far vs what i had install ubuntu |
| 13:33.53 | petemc | then why not use ubuntu? |
| 13:34.07 | enouf | stevil: also, might want to think about rm'ing groups of files within the dir, using wilcards - just to get a bunch of them out - or even using find .. | xargs rm or something |
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| 13:37.46 | abrotman | tdawgedogg: did the dns take awhile? |
| 13:38.36 | tdawgedogg | lol no i dunno...i got my router plugged back in |
| 13:38.48 | abrotman | great testing ... |
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| 13:38.50 | tdawgedogg | i can connect to it fine via login but i still cant get on internet |
| 13:38.54 | tdawgedogg | im not sure what the deal is |
| 13:39.33 | abrotman | i thought the internet was slow? |
| 13:41.20 | jelly | as a dogg |
| 13:42.16 | tdawgedogg | booting into windows again to test the setup i have |
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| 13:44.37 | Usiu | hi |
| 13:44.58 | Usiu | Is there any way to enable sun-java6 appletviewer in iceweasel on amd64 ? |
| 13:45.15 | Usiu | I know there is no plugin, but appletviewer should work right? |
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| 13:47.37 | stew | Usiu: yes, appletviewer works |
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| 13:47.37 | Usiu | stew: how to make iceweasel using it? |
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| 13:47.57 | pete_ | Hi. I have package in state "pF". when i run dpkg -r --force all package it wont remove it cos some stupid fucking error in subprocerss post-installation. Any more force options? |
| 13:48.15 | pete_ | or do i have to re-install whole OS ? :D I hate redhat-fucking-cluster-suite |
| 13:48.41 | stew | Usiu: i doubt there is an easy way to do that |
| 13:48.48 | stew | Usiu: what version of debian are you using? |
| 13:48.55 | Usiu | stew: sid |
| 13:49.22 | stew | Usiu: then why not use icedtea-gcjwebplugin ? |
| 13:49.49 | bolt-work | pete_: redhat cluster-fuck :D |
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| 13:49.54 | Usiu | stew: its not working for one page, I thought there is a plugin that make use of appletviewer |
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| 13:50.15 | pete_ | bolt-work: no shit.. But i have to install Etch + Xen + clvm or i got my ass fired |
| 13:50.25 | pete_ | and im starting to be fucking annoyid about this redhat shit |
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| 13:51.04 | pete_ | anyone here has any experience about Xen and clvm? And no i dont install xen from repo. |
| 13:52.29 | Usiu | stew: iceweasel is dying, maybe I should file a bug? |
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| 13:55.02 | abrotman | pete_: what's the actual error on the package removal |
| 13:55.57 | tdawgedogg | ok i got internet working...update manager keeps freezing though |
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| 13:58.47 | pete_ | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/m3d38c71 |
| 13:59.02 | tdawgedogg | any know what process update manager is |
| 13:59.10 | abrotman | pete_: maybe you should start 'cman' ? |
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| 13:59.34 | pete_ | abrotman: maybe if it start im not here to crying about removing it :D |
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| 14:00.54 | pete_ | and im really wondering that am i the only one who wants to use clvm and Xen in Debian. Google is not my friend |
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| 14:01.14 | valdyn | !clvm |
| 14:01.18 | pete_ | is this now the time when i just need to start using Redhat so i can make cluster without killing myself when easting this crap :) |
| 14:01.22 | pete_ | !clvm |
| 14:01.39 | pete_ | what s supprose |
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| 14:02.30 | valdyn | pete_: not like its hard to transfer rh specific information to be useful on debian, if you know what youre doing |
| 14:02.41 | abrotman | pete_: it's dying because it's trying to stop something that isn't running |
| 14:03.00 | abrotman | pete_: either start the application, or comment out the line that is trying to stop it |
| 14:03.10 | pete_ | valdyn: yes i know. I have used alien and done lots of shit in past seven years. This is first time ever im in deep shit :) |
| 14:03.17 | valdyn | pete_: geez |
| 14:03.21 | pete_ | abrotman: hmm..that sound greta. Going to test it |
| 14:03.27 | valdyn | pete_: using alien is certainly not what you should do |
| 14:03.31 | valdyn | pete_: clvm is in debian |
| 14:03.34 | pete_ | valdyn: i know |
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| 14:03.43 | tdawgedogg | hey in aptitude i have 509 upgradable packages...whats the fastest way to get all of these? |
| 14:03.53 | abrotman | the internet |
| 14:04.06 | valdyn | tdawgedogg: a fast uplink? |
| 14:04.06 | idimmu | by post |
| 14:04.07 | petemc | internet2 would be faster |
| 14:04.14 | tdawgedogg | lol is there an apt-get update i could use |
| 14:04.18 | idimmu | actually fax |
| 14:04.27 | tdawgedogg | i could read it striaght off a cd...that might be faster |
| 14:04.29 | abrotman | !grounding |
| 14:04.30 | dpkg | Before asking in here or on debian-user, you should read the install guide, or if you have already installed, the debian reference, the apt howto. Ask me about <ig>, <docs>, <manuals>, <reference>, <fundamentals>, <newbiedoc>, <refcard>, <faq>, <unix lessons>, <general cli tutorial>. (e.g. in your irc client, type /msg dpkg reference) |
| 14:04.46 | stew | tdawgedogg: "aptitude dist-upgrade" but pay attention to what packages it might want to remove |
| 14:04.51 | tdawgedogg | ok |
| 14:05.03 | Zambezi | I have Lenny on encrypted LVM on hda, the other day I installed Ubuntu Dapper on hdb to make a backup from a truecrypt-partion. But when I booted, there's only Ubuntu in grub and if I disconnect hdb it says Grub Error 5. A guy said yesterday I have to reinstall grub on hda. Is that correct? |
| 14:05.08 | tdawgedogg | thank you stew! |
| 14:05.59 | pete_ | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/m7d0927b2 |
| 14:06.15 | abrotman | so run apt-get -f install |
| 14:06.20 | pete_ | ok now i got it |
| 14:06.25 | jamon | Zambezi: you can edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst to point at your hda install |
| 14:06.26 | pete_ | that didnt to the trick |
| 14:06.40 | abrotman | I could guess what it did, but why don't you show us |
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| 14:08.30 | pete_ | im already over it. Now my apt-get works. It takes about 5min to be back at this same sitsuvation. I can install cman from apt -> fucked-up I can install it from source -> fuck-up |
| 14:08.40 | Zambezi | jamon, Do you know where the boot-partion is on hdx? x, x1, x2, x5? |
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| 14:09.07 | yassine | im trying to install the moinmoin debian package via apt-get install python-moinmoin but were having a python conflicts now i managed to solve the first problem but this new problem arises: http://rafb.net/p/nXG35Z94.html any one have an idea whats wrong there now? |
| 14:09.10 | jamon | Zambezi: fdisk -l /dev/hda will help you figure that out, i'm guessing hda1 |
| 14:10.05 | abrotman | pete_: oddly "fucked-up" doesn't help us fix it |
| 14:10.28 | Zambezi | jamon, You're right. I'll mount it now and have a look. |
| 14:10.47 | pete_ | abrotman: i know, im sorry. Only think some could do is to point me to right direction about installing cman+clvm in Debian without apt-get |
| 14:11.14 | stew | pete_: why don't you want to use apt-get? |
| 14:11.27 | magyar_ | hi is there a read/write kernel module for ntfs in debian? |
| 14:11.38 | fireba11 | magyar: yes |
| 14:11.45 | magyar_ | fireba11, do tell |
| 14:12.00 | stew | magyar_: you should use ntfs-3g: /msg dpkg ntfs-3g |
| 14:12.23 | trifler | anyone that has some knowledge about lftp? I'm trying to upload a file from my laptop to my other computer. I type in mirror -R foldername, and all I get is jibberish how the heck do you simply upload a folder. or am I forced to make a tarball or something :S |
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| 14:12.36 | trifler | upload a folder not a file sorry about that. |
| 14:12.40 | magyar_ | stew, thanks |
| 14:13.07 | pete_ | stew: cos it wont do it. I can do it one more time so all of you believe that redhat shit from repo is shit :) |
| 14:13.29 | stew | pete_: what does "cos it wont do it" mean? |
| 14:13.48 | pete_ | stew: it wont install it |
| 14:13.57 | abrotman | pete_: show us errors .. |
| 14:14.09 | stew | pete_: why not? |
| 14:14.25 | pete_ | http://pastebin.com/m5513b0a0 |
| 14:14.47 | pete_ | dont know. It tells me something about address family not supported. It just that i got IPv6 module and so on |
| 14:15.04 | yassine | i can't get python-moinmoin installed on debian etch and i get these errors any help is apreciated: http://rafb.net/p/nXG35Z94.html |
| 14:15.44 | stew | pete_: did you install redhat-cluster kernel modules? |
| 14:16.20 | pete_ | stew: well...lol..i said earlier that i cant install them from repo cos xen is from source.. so if i do that then this whole system is fuckedup |
| 14:16.39 | stew | pete_: install it with module-assistant |
| 14:16.42 | pete_ | and i cant compile those modules from source. And this is the first time i cant compile somthing |
| 14:16.45 | pete_ | hmm... |
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| 14:17.04 | stew | pete_: why can't you compile the modules? |
| 14:17.08 | maxamillion | how do i change the orientation of the close/minimize/maximize buttons in metacity? |
| 14:17.11 | maxamillion | i installed some theme and it switched them to the left ... i want them back on the right |
| 14:17.16 | pete_ | stew: some crazy errors.. |
| 14:17.22 | stew | pete_: what errors? |
| 14:18.08 | stew | pete_: show us the actual command you typed and the actual output, use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
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| 14:18.27 | cloakable | maxamillion: lol metacity. edit the theme file in a text editor. |
| 14:18.39 | cloakable | hope you know XML |
| 14:19.04 | bolt-work | yassine: try fixing your "1 not fully installed or removed" |
| 14:19.24 | abrotman | pete_: which version of Debian is this? |
| 14:19.43 | valdyn | maxamillion: gconf-editor |
| 14:19.50 | pete_ | stew: some weirdest think in whole world happened and it actually compiled and loaded in!! This is different machine then what i got those errors last day.. |
| 14:19.51 | yassine | bolt-work, i have exactly executed the cmd you provided apt-get install --reinstall python |
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| 14:19.58 | pete_ | abrotman: Etch |
| 14:20.00 | g00se | The phpmyadmin package seems odd. I would have guessed that a good way to do it would be to have it as another of the sites-available. As it happens, it installs outside the webroot. Its php scripts are thus seen by my browser as mere files?? |
| 14:20.01 | magyar_ | stew, any backports for lenny, I only see etch |
| 14:20.02 | magyar_ | ? |
| 14:20.21 | bolt-work | yassine: that doesn't matter. you have a package which isn't correctly installed. that might be causing it. |
| 14:20.28 | stew | judd: versions ntfs-3g |
| 14:20.33 | valdyn | maxamillion: and in that program: apps->metacity->general->button_layout |
| 14:20.34 | maxamillion | cloakable: no no, i switched away from that theme and the setting stuck |
| 14:20.35 | judd | stew: ntfs-3g: 1:1.516-1~bpo.1 (etch-backports) 1:1.2531-1 (lenny) 1:1.2531-1 (sid) 1:1.2918-1 (experimental) |
| 14:20.38 | maxamillion | valdyn: ah, thanks |
| 14:20.42 | stew | magyar_: lenny appears to have 1:1.2531-1 |
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| 14:20.55 | bolt-work | yassine: the line i gave you was for your previous problem |
| 14:20.57 | stew | magyar_: which is the same version as sid |
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| 14:21.31 | stew | pete_: can you load the modules and try installing cman again? |
| 14:21.37 | yassine | bolt-work, how can i find out which one is causing the problem i even tried the verbose version of apt-get -V install python-moinmoin which did not really provided me with more informations on which package is causing the problem |
| 14:21.57 | pete_ | stew: already do it and it worked. im now trying to get it up. |
| 14:22.08 | pete_ | stew: thanks dude :) |
| 14:22.11 | pete_ | abd abrotman also |
| 14:22.14 | yassine | bolt-work, even aptitude does not show any inconsistency it "claims" everything is okay |
| 14:22.29 | magyar_ | stew, bahh, apt-cache would have been smart on my side |
| 14:23.06 | magyar_ | in any case, backport is only for etch and sid? |
| 14:23.29 | stew | magyar_: backports are for recompiling software from testing against libraries in stable |
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| 14:23.49 | stew | magyar_: so they are from lenny and for etch |
| 14:23.53 | magyar_ | and since lenny is still testing it = sid |
| 14:23.56 | magyar_ | got it |
| 14:24.04 | stew | magyar_: sid is not involved |
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| 14:24.09 | magyar_ | hmm |
| 14:24.31 | oklinux | any one know where the folder wm list in xsession ? |
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| 14:25.35 | Zambezi | Can anyone check here why Ubuntu boots and Debian doesn't. And I want Debian to work cause that's my main installation and all my files is there. http://www.pastebin.ca/1234700 |
| 14:26.32 | magyar_ | btw, lenny has an awsome upgrade integration from etch |
| 14:26.35 | izzyb | dondelelcaro, enouf, thanks for the help re pam last night. I got if figured out :) |
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| 14:28.08 | stew | Zambezi: what happens when you try to boot? |
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| 14:29.19 | Zambezi | stew, With hda (Lenny) - Grub error 5. With hdb (Ubuntu Dapper) - no error, but no sign of Lenny. |
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| 14:31.02 | dukez_ | hi there |
| 14:31.06 | Zambezi | stew, Different menu.lst and Lenny is encrypted, Dapper not. |
| 14:31.22 | dukez_ | i got a bug with apache2 on Debian Etch ... it is segfaulting :) |
| 14:31.42 | dukez_ | what do i need to do ? |
| 14:31.50 | dukez_ | i didn't find any entry in the BTS about it ! :) |
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| 14:33.17 | jamon | Zambezi: mount your /dev/hda1 and take a look at the contents of it's menu.lst |
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| 14:34.05 | Zambezi | jamon, I did. And I pasted the info from the first kernel in the pastebin, and the same info from Ubuntus menu.lst |
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| 14:36.06 | yassine | bolt-work, now i have found which package is eventually causing the problem, its reportbug, it does have thfollowing in its /var/dpkg/status : "Status: install ok half-configured" any further hints? |
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| 14:37.09 | jamon | Zambezi: http://www.pastebin.ca/1234711 |
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| 14:37.47 | bolt-work | yassine: dpkg-reconfigure reportbug |
| 14:37.54 | SeveredCross | Hey y'all, I have a Debian box which keeps telling me that the rootfs is missing /sbin/init. HOwever, I just chrooted in and /sbin/init is definitely thre. |
| 14:37.56 | bolt-work | yassine: how the heck did you get that half-configured?! |
| 14:38.02 | SeveredCross | Should I reinstall the sysvinit package? |
| 14:38.22 | SeveredCross | And, it seems to have locked up. -_- |
| 14:38.51 | yassine | bolt-work, honestly this a system i have been running since 2 years without ever been playing in its configs the only thing i was doing is to update it each weekend |
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| 14:39.05 | Zambezi | jamon, I'm editing it now, but I reboot about three hours cause I'm running an rsync right now. |
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| 14:39.29 | jamon | Zambezi: well if it doesn't work for some reason, write that stuff down and run it form the grub console |
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| 14:40.28 | SeveredCross | Hmm, this just keeps getting weirder nd weirder. |
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| 14:40.48 | SeveredCross | It's trynig to mount the root filesystem, and never gets around to it, saying no such file or directory. |
| 14:41.01 | SeveredCross | But /dev/hdc3, where the rootfs exists. |
| 14:41.14 | stew | Zambezi: so you have a /boot in both (hd0,0) and (hd1,0)? |
| 14:41.42 | jamon | SeveredCross: do you have root=/dev/hdc3 as a kernel option in grub? |
| 14:42.04 | oklinux | where is gdm folder ? |
| 14:42.07 | Zambezi | stew, On Debian it's /boot/grub/menu.lst on Ubuntu /grub/menu.lst |
| 14:42.50 | SeveredCross | jamon: PowerPC, so it's yaboot, but yeah, it's there, it tries to mount it. |
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| 14:43.02 | Zambezi | stew, hda encrypted, hdb not encrypted. That may effect. |
| 14:43.03 | jamon | ah ppc, i quit! |
| 14:43.07 | yassine | bolt-work, its seems that the problem is somewhere else when i try to Re- configure via dpkg i get the following: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: reportbug is broken or not fully installed |
| 14:43.07 | SeveredCross | I can see in the kernel output at boot that it's trying to mount /dev/hdc3. |
| 14:43.17 | stew | Zambezi: oh, hd0,0 is encrypted? |
| 14:43.36 | SeveredCross | yassine: apt-get -f instal |
| 14:43.38 | SeveredCross | ? |
| 14:43.44 | SeveredCross | tries to reinstall yaboot. |
| 14:43.57 | jamon | stew: don't think hd0,0 is since it is a /boot partition |
| 14:44.10 | Zambezi | stew, Yes. |
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| 14:44.31 | stew | Zambezi: that is likely your problem then. grub wouldn't be able to read its files from the encrypted partition |
| 14:44.50 | bolt-work | yassine: then run reinstall on that too |
| 14:45.07 | yassine | bolt-work, okay let me try that |
| 14:45.19 | yassine | SeveredCross, that ends up with this : http://rafb.net/p/PK3mBi95.html |
| 14:45.27 | Zambezi | stew, And then I installed Dapper on hdb with no encryption to make a backup cause it's easier to make Truecrypt 4.2a/3a working in Dapper, at least for me and then I switch back to Lenny. |
| 14:46.02 | SeveredCross | yassine: WTF...sounds like the package has some broken scripts. |
| 14:46.06 | Zambezi | stew, My idea is to install encrypted Lenny on hdb. That may help if I'm lucky. |
| 14:46.06 | yassine | bolt-work, i get exactly the same error as i mentioned/pasted for SeveredCross suggestion |
| 14:46.29 | stew | Zambezi: you need to change (hd0,0) to be a partition that isn't encrypted |
| 14:46.39 | Zambezi | stew, No backup from hda (0.0) of course since I didn't expect problem. |
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| 14:47.35 | yassine | SeveredCross, the matter is that i have really no clue where this comes from i have never installed a third party package... i always stick to main stable package from etch |
| 14:47.50 | magyar_ | hi, looking for a password gen program for /etc/passwd |
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| 14:48.17 | Zambezi | stew, And I have alot of things on / I have to save like my pwsafe-db. |
| 14:48.53 | jamon | Zambezi: are you sure your hd0,0 boot partition is encrypted? how did you mount it and read your menu.lst? |
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| 14:49.40 | Zambezi | jamon, The boot isn't encrypted. I just mounted it with mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda |
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| 14:50.29 | oklinux | in my gdm session I have awesome wm line but i do not have awesome how do I delete that line ? |
| 14:50.35 | SeveredCross | Hrglyblrg. Looks like my server is totally borked. -_- |
| 14:50.44 | jamon | Zambezi: excellent, that saves a huge amount of headache :) |
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| 14:51.14 | jamon | Zambezi: again, when you reboot, if it doesn't work, you can run that menu.lst from ubunutu's grub console |
| 14:51.27 | stew | Zambezi: wait, it is encrypted or it isn't encrypted? you've said both now |
| 14:52.01 | asulao | hello all. In a 686-debian etch r4a with kernel 2.6.24-etchnhalf installed, I'm trying to build kernel module ndiswrapper-source, but compilation fails, complaining about CFLAGS has changed. How can I build it? |
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| 14:52.16 | Zambezi | stew, hda - Lenny = encrypted. hdb - Dapper = non-encryption. |
| 14:52.22 | jamon | Zambezi: worst that you might have to do is run root (hd0,0) makeactive chainloader +1 boot and that should drop you into lenny's grub |
| 14:52.45 | jamon | Zambezi: no, hda has partitions, fdisk -l /dev/hda to pastebin please |
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| 14:53.04 | bolt-work | asulao: post output to a pastebin. also, try using module-assistant to install it if you haven't |
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| 14:53.37 | asulao | bolt-work: Itried build with: m-a a-b ndiswrapper |
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| 14:54.01 | asulao | wait, it's on some other pc |
| 14:54.04 | bolt-work | asulao: ?! |
| 14:54.28 | asulao | bolt-work: yes, a-i a-b is that wrong? |
| 14:54.30 | Zambezi | jamon, http://www.pastebin.ca/1234722 |
| 14:55.18 | bolt-work | asulao: no, just confused about the indeterminate other pc for a second there |
| 14:55.22 | asulao | sorry, I meant m-a a-b |
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| 14:56.20 | asulao | bolt-work: I meant by that that I can't pastebin immediately, one sec |
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| 14:56.46 | jamon | Zambezi: ok, are you using truecrypt or cryptsetup/dm-crypt? |
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| 14:57.56 | Zambezi | jamon, cryptsetup/dm-crypt. Truecrypt was to access old storagesdrives to backup them to other drives and that was easier to install in Ubuntu. |
| 14:58.12 | Zambezi | jamon, Easier = less effort. :-) |
| 14:58.24 | jamon | Zambezi: yeah, i like the integration too |
| 14:58.42 | bolt-work | what's that python (or something) script that posts stuff to pastebin again? i think dpkg has an entry about it |
| 14:58.56 | Zambezi | jamon, I had the deb saved since earlier. |
| 14:58.58 | jamon | Zambezi: so when you reboot, choose the lenny entry in your edited grub.lst and you should get a normal boot process with the prompt for your passphrase |
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| 15:00.00 | Zambezi | jamon, I hope that works. Let's see about two hours when rsync is done. Big thanks to you and stew of course for your effort so far. |
| 15:00.07 | jamon | good luck :) |
| 15:00.30 | Zambezi | stew, Thanks for all your help today. I reboot about two hours and hope this solves it. |
| 15:01.13 | asulao | bolt-work: pastebin.ca/1234729 |
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| 15:03.10 | jamon | Zambezi: note too that you can run cryptsetup luksOpen on your encryptd partition from ubuntu to get at your files |
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| 15:04.13 | g00se | I'd be interested to hear from anyone using the Debian phpmyadmin package - I need to know how you configured it |
| 15:04.23 | Zambezi | jamon, I know, but not all the settings I made to make sound working. And maybe not installed packages. It's not that many, but I had to install a couple of them to make my scannerscript work. |
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| 15:04.53 | Zambezi | jamon, I made backup from Truecrypt to LUKS. :-) |
| 15:05.31 | jamon | i just meant to get your data in case you can't manage to boot your lenny install |
| 15:06.25 | Zambezi | jamon, And I started on a AMD Duron 800 with 256 MB ram and a 10 dollar SATA-controllercard I bought from Ebay. The fastest speed was like 3-4 MB/s when I copied files so I used my desktop instead. |
| 15:06.46 | jamon | blech |
| 15:07.35 | Zambezi | jamon, Hopefully it won't be necassary. And btw, I backuped almost 2,5TB so guess why I used my desktop instead. :-) |
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| 15:09.41 | yassine | bolt-work, SeveredCross its a bug |
| 15:10.00 | pete_ | anyone has idea about lvmd that is this fatal -> "dlm: clvmd: lockspace already in use" |
| 15:10.07 | yassine | bolt-work, SeveredCross i found a workaround here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-central/+bug/93518 |
| 15:10.11 | pete_ | it seems to run correctly but i dont like thinks like that :D |
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| 15:15.12 | FBdev | Hi everybody. I'v been told that after changing root password on a server that had LVM+dm crypt dm crypt passphrase changes also ...that sounds strange no? |
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| 15:16.08 | dextervip7 | How do install PHP SSH2 Extension by yum? |
| 15:16.44 | idimmu | wouldnt a phone sex line get you off quicker than trolling on irc? |
| 15:16.45 | SeveredCross | Yum...? |
| 15:17.27 | stew | dextervip7: you want to use yum? are you running debian? are you in the wrong channel? |
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| 15:17.44 | dextervip7 | I use centos xD |
| 15:17.49 | surround1r | poor thing |
| 15:17.58 | stew | dextervip7: wrong channel, try #centos |
| 15:18.09 | idimmu | is leaving his cushy debian job to work with centos/redhat next month :( |
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| 15:18.42 | idimmu | whatta mistakea to makea |
| 15:18.47 | Federico2 | yep |
| 15:18.50 | jamon | i pity the fool! |
| 15:18.52 | Federico2 | why are you doing so? |
| 15:19.09 | surround1r | we are in the process of moving our servers from centos to ubuntu LTS |
| 15:19.12 | idimmu | cos they company is paying me fat bux and actually has a future/career plan :p |
| 15:19.24 | idimmu | surround1r: i really hope that within a month of starting ill be in the same process :) |
| 15:19.28 | surround1r | it isn't debian but hey? it's still a lot more comfortable to administrate :P |
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| 15:19.49 | surround1r | idimmu: can imagine that :) |
| 15:19.52 | idimmu | im going to take it easy for a month or two, then suggest "changes" :) |
| 15:19.55 | Federico2 | yeh sure |
| 15:19.57 | surround1r | haha |
| 15:20.22 | Federico2 | I'm very happy to see how many admins love Debian around |
| 15:20.27 | Federico2 | and how many companies |
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| 15:21.28 | jamon | i got in trouble at work for building my own (working) version of subversion on a gentoo server since our admin wouldn't fix it himself |
| 15:21.50 | jamon | so frustrating to deal with an admin like that who refuses to try anything even remotely usable by other people |
| 15:21.55 | idimmu | harsh work environment :/ |
| 15:22.08 | jamon | guess who's next in line for his job :) |
| 15:22.13 | surround1r | haha |
| 15:22.44 | jamon | i have half the staff using lenny in virtualbox images on his gentoo machines |
| 15:22.49 | ezguy | what package has tool for creating msdos fs? |
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| 15:23.21 | idimmu | ezguy: from memory msdos fs is called vfat |
| 15:23.26 | jamon | ezguy: try mkfs.vfat |
| 15:23.28 | idimmu | (in linux) |
| 15:23.29 | idimmu | yeah |
| 15:23.43 | idimmu | and its probably already installed |
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| 15:23.45 | ezguy | got it. |
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| 15:25.09 | jamon | watches ezguy's mbr go kersplat |
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| 15:29.12 | pau|c | hi, my sudoers file contains 'Defaults env_keep = "PATH"', but when I sudo my path doesn't appear to be preserved. what am I doing wrong? |
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| 15:33.14 | jamon | pau|c: does your version of sudo support env_keep? migh tbe easier to just edit your /etc/profile |
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| 15:33.48 | meeeh | Hi. Is it generally possible to burn a bootable CD .iso image to a DVD and have that DVD still be bootable? |
| 15:34.33 | meeeh | (I want to burn the netinst image but I only have a DVD RW at hand) |
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| 15:34.58 | AbortRetryFail | meeeh: it's rewritable |
| 15:35.00 | AbortRetryFail | try it. |
| 15:35.36 | meeeh | well, both my network and my burner are quite slow, so asking here before trying might save me quite a bit of time :-) |
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| 15:35.54 | pau|c | jamon: I believe so, at least, env_keep is mentioned in the man page. The path I want to use is in /etc/profile, but when I run sudo it's modified (I think because of secure_path) |
| 15:35.56 | meeeh | (the download is in progress, so I am in fact doing both at the same time) |
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| 15:37.19 | jamon | pau|c: check http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=sudo i see mention there of env_path |
| 15:37.26 | keith4 | when I login as a normal user, and try to cd to "public_html", using tab completion, I get: cd publi-sh: <( compgen -d -- 'publi' ): No such file or directory |
| 15:37.29 | keith4 | but it works fine as root |
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| 15:38.50 | jamon | meeeh: k3b is a good giu for that, or growisofs -dvd-compat -Z |
| 15:39.10 | jamon | meeeh: you can burn any iso to a dvd |
| 15:39.19 | pau|c | jamon: nothing obvious, thnks |
| 15:40.01 | pumpkin0 | yesterday i asked about supported scanners in lenny. Epson and HP were the answers. Turns out lenny supports a grand total of zero HP-scanners (Bug#490640). Now, before i buy a epson: can somebody please confirm these really, really work right now? |
| 15:40.20 | keith4 | no |
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| 15:40.30 | keith4 | but you can go read up about 'sane' |
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| 15:41.18 | keith4 | pumpkin0: what chipset does the epson scanner-in-question have? |
| 15:41.20 | pumpkin0 | keith4: how broken is it currently in lenny (cause the bug is about sane... ) |
| 15:41.28 | E-bola | when creating a stripe raid with mdadm, does it take time before its ready? |
| 15:41.32 | pumpkin0 | keith4: i have a HP now. |
| 15:41.37 | keith4 | E-bola: "ready"? |
| 15:41.38 | E-bola | because it doesnt seem to be fullspeed atm |
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| 15:41.50 | E-bola | keith4: maybe it did some sort of initiation, like raid5 |
| 15:41.57 | keith4 | pumpkin0: doesn't matter who makes the scanner. matters what chipset it is |
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| 15:42.07 | E-bola | i just deleted a stripe set, and created a new one on the same disks/hw |
| 15:42.14 | keith4 | E-bola: well, of course it takes time to stripe it |
| 15:42.26 | E-bola | and the new one is half the speed of the old one (basically its onyl as fast as a single disk, and there are 2 disks int he raid) |
| 15:42.27 | keith4 | you can check on the progress by cat'ing /proc/mdstat |
| 15:42.36 | pumpkin0 | keith4: again: all HP-based scanners are dead cause the hplip-package is broken. |
| 15:42.39 | E-bola | keith: i dont see any progress indicators in mdstat |
| 15:42.40 | Vi^3PirePengy | i see open cobol in the debian repos but is there any compilers for cobol that wont convert to c/gcc and just stay cobol? |
| 15:42.43 | E-bola | thats the problem.... |
| 15:43.10 | E-bola | also i dont see the [UU] like i do for my mirror |
| 15:43.21 | keith4 | how about mdadm --detail /dev/md0 ? |
| 15:43.25 | keith4 | or whatever your md device is |
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| 15:43.43 | dextervip7 | Anyone know if Cpanel install PHP SSH2 Extension? |
| 15:43.52 | E-bola | state is clean |
| 15:43.57 | E-bola | not sure what else to look for? |
| 15:43.59 | stew | dextervip7: wrong channel |
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| 15:44.21 | E-bola | keith4: can i paste the output? |
| 15:44.24 | keith4 | no |
| 15:44.27 | keith4 | pastebin it |
| 15:44.32 | E-bola | thats what i meant... |
| 15:44.35 | SimonAdameit | Hi |
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| 15:44.53 | E-bola | http://paste.debian.net/19866/ |
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| 15:45.03 | E-bola | thats the output from my newly created stripe |
| 15:45.36 | SimonAdameit | How can I enable user_xattr, when I have only one partitition and no seperate /home partitition? |
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| 15:46.00 | keith4 | E-bola: looks fine to me |
| 15:46.21 | E-bola | keith4: any explanation, why the stripe isnt speeding things up at all then? |
| 15:46.32 | E-bola | with the old stripeset i got 200MB/sec, with the new i get half that |
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| 15:47.02 | keith4 | what are the drives? |
| 15:47.08 | keith4 | because I don't believe you got 200MB/sec |
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| 15:47.23 | E-bola | brand new sata2 western digital 1tb drives |
| 15:47.28 | keith4 | unless they're 15k SAS disks |
| 15:47.48 | E-bola | a single drive does 110MB/sec, why wouldnjt i get ~200mb/sec with a stripe? |
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| 15:48.07 | keith4 | because there are lots of other factors |
| 15:48.13 | keith4 | and because it's done in software |
| 15:48.15 | stew | there are drives that do 110MB/sec? |
| 15:48.22 | E-bola | stew: yes |
| 15:48.29 | keith4 | maybe you have the jumper on, that limits it to SATA 1 |
| 15:48.37 | E-bola | keith: umm why would software be the limitor? the cpu is dedicated to this |
| 15:48.44 | E-bola | keith: no jumpers have been changed... |
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| 15:48.54 | E-bola | i was getting 200MB/sec 20mins ago |
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| 15:49.00 | E-bola | before i deleted the raid and created a newer smaller one |
| 15:49.01 | keith4 | bull |
| 15:49.21 | E-bola | sighs |
| 15:49.31 | keith4 | maybe you filled your memory cache |
| 15:49.40 | E-bola | it was consistnet over reboots |
| 15:49.47 | trumpen | pau|c, how about a trick like this sudo bash -c "PATH=$PATH; env | grep ^PATH" ? |
| 15:49.48 | E-bola | consistent |
| 15:49.55 | keith4 | what was your test scenario? |
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| 15:50.09 | E-bola | keith: well then answer me this. How come the stripe set, is precisely as fast as a single disk |
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| 15:50.28 | E-bola | regardless of software overhead etc, surely a stripe should perform better than a single disk (like it did half an hour ago) |
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| 15:50.48 | stew | E-bola: as long as the disk is the limiting factor and not the bus which the bits have to go over |
| 15:50.55 | stevedondley | ping dondelelcaro |
| 15:51.02 | keith4 | <keith4> because there are lots of other factors |
| 15:51.06 | E-bola | well the point of striping is to use multiple disks |
| 15:51.23 | E-bola | so the disk wont be the limiting factor if the stripe and the disk is the same speed |
| 15:51.27 | stew | stevedondley: is there something we can help you with? |
| 15:51.40 | pau|c | trumpen: very smart, and works :) thanks |
| 15:51.54 | stevedondley | just seeing some spikes in munin on my server, don is my server guy |
| 15:51.59 | keith4 | why are you striping, anyway? |
| 15:52.09 | keith4 | it's risky business |
| 15:52.10 | E-bola | keith: for performance |
| 15:52.21 | E-bola | its not risky, when the data is backed up else where |
| 15:52.26 | cesar_CR | hello guys I have a question about network configuration |
| 15:52.44 | trumpen | pau|c, yw :) |
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| 15:53.14 | cesar_CR | when I change my ipadd in /etc/network/interf... and after I restart networking |
| 15:53.16 | E-bola | keith4: shouldnt the stripe set have the [UU] in mdstat like the mirror does? |
| 15:53.26 | cesar_CR | I do not have my new ipadd ? |
| 15:53.30 | cesar_CR | why is that ? |
| 15:53.40 | keith4 | E-bola: pastebin /proc/mdstat |
| 15:54.09 | E-bola | http://paste.debian.net/19867/ |
| 15:54.30 | jamon | cesar_CR: does setting it manually with ifconfig work? |
| 15:55.29 | keith4 | E-bola: yes, it should |
| 15:55.33 | keith4 | (have UU) |
| 15:55.42 | E-bola | right, and that is the issue as far as i can figure out |
| 15:55.42 | cesar_CR | yes with ifconfig and the long command : ) works.... |
| 15:55.43 | keith4 | actually... maybe not |
| 15:55.48 | E-bola | question is, why is it missing? |
| 15:55.51 | keith4 | raid1, 5, etc., would have it |
| 15:56.17 | keith4 | not sure about 0 |
| 15:56.30 | jamon | cesar_CR: pastebin your network/interfaces file then |
| 15:58.10 | asulao | ops |
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| 16:00.07 | cesar_CR | jamon, http://pastebin.ca/1234774 |
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| 16:02.14 | jamon | cesar_CR: so if you don't get the correct, ip, what are you getting? |
| 16:02.45 | asulao | hello all. In a 686-debian etch r4a with kernel 2.6.24-etchnhalf installed, I'm trying to build kernel module ndiswrapper-source (m-a a-b ndiswrapper), but compilation fails, complaining about CFLAGS has changed (pastebin.ca/1234729). How can I build it? (I do have kernel-source, headers, etc. -`uname -r` installed). |
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| 16:03.34 | aidehua | How can I literally see what is being typed into a terminal? In particular, I'd like to see something like ^H when backspace is pressed. |
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| 16:04.27 | cesar_CR | jamon, Ok I after changing the data in interfases and restart networking ifconfig tells me that there is only the lo interface |
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| 16:04.58 | cesar_CR | jamon, and if I do a ifconfig eth0 up, it comes up with the old IP |
| 16:05.19 | cesar_CR | jamon, just restarting makes the changes efective |
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| 16:06.11 | jamon | cesar_CR: rebooting you mean? try just rmmod/modprobe the network driver |
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| 16:06.27 | oklinux | what is metacity ? |
| 16:06.35 | idimmu | a window manager |
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| 16:07.08 | idimmu | the first hit in google for metacity is a wikipedia article explaining exactly what metacity is |
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| 16:07.18 | idimmu | do you know what google is? |
| 16:07.28 | oklinux | no |
| 16:07.33 | stew | idimmu: its a search engine |
| 16:07.41 | oklinux | thanks |
| 16:07.42 | idimmu | its like microsoft live |
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| 16:08.00 | stew | idimmu: wikipedia should have an article about it |
| 16:08.18 | idimmu | does wikipedia have an article on wikipedia? |
| 16:08.29 | stew | idimmu: it should. ask #wikipedia |
| 16:08.33 | idimmu | there is a List_of_cakes page on wikipedia |
| 16:08.37 | jamon | oh snap! |
| 16:09.03 | idimmu | but not a List_of_pies page :( |
| 16:09.10 | cesar_CR | jamon, so it should work the way Im doing it ? |
| 16:09.11 | mac123 | hello i want to check the spec my server running debain which command should i use |
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| 16:09.49 | idimmu | cat /proc/cpuinfo and free and lshw |
| 16:09.50 | jamon | cesar_CR: i don't see anything wrong |
| 16:09.53 | idimmu | mac123: ^^ |
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| 16:11.07 | mhymn | !tell mac123 about what's my hardware |
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| 16:12.07 | jelly | this is surreal. <idimmu> do you know what google is? <oklinux> no |
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| 16:16.29 | mac123 | @mhymn yeah i want to check the hardware |
| 16:17.04 | mhymn | mac123: so follow what dpkg told you in PM |
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| 16:18.36 | MeStesso | hello |
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| 16:18.55 | mac123 | thx mhymn |
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| 16:19.00 | MeStesso | I'm running apt-get upgrade on my debian server. I get this message: "The following packages have been kept back: openssh-client openssh-server" what does it mean? |
| 16:19.22 | stew | MeStesso: /msg dpkg kept back |
| 16:19.33 | MeStesso | what? |
| 16:19.48 | stew | dpkg: tell MeStesso about kept back |
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| 16:20.52 | MeStesso | if I run apt-get install openssh-client it seems to be working... |
| 16:21.00 | MeStesso | can it be because I'm connected through ssh? |
| 16:21.29 | stew | MeStesso: no |
| 16:21.42 | stew | MeStesso: its becuase new packages need to be installed and upgrade won't install new packages |
| 16:21.48 | MeStesso | oh... |
| 16:21.50 | MeStesso | ok tnx |
| 16:21.54 | MeStesso | now it's working |
| 16:22.22 | NinjaMan | anyone know of a BBC Micro emulator for Linux? |
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| 16:25.24 | E-bola | keith4: how would you like me to proove im getting ~200MB/sec ? |
| 16:25.34 | E-bola | sicne it seems its back, i had fiddled with the bios |
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| 16:25.51 | micols | what are the security considerations of giving one sudo ALL NOPASSWD access and disabling !SHELL , one could just make his own shell and bypass logging, isn't that security through obscurity? |
| 16:26.08 | micols | i.e. no security at all |
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| 16:26.35 | oklinux | dudeman, are you here ? |
| 16:28.11 | roe__ | E-bola, 200MB or Mb per second? |
| 16:28.27 | E-bola | megabytes per second |
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| 16:31.23 | ezguy | i try to mount cifs but i get this error: CIFS VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -22 |
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| 16:31.27 | ezguy | any ideas? |
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| 16:35.11 | adb | NinjaMan: apt-cache search emulator |
| 16:35.32 | aragon_ | ezguy: Do you have devicenodes like c0d0p1 under /dev/cciss? |
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| 16:38.18 | gothenburg | :) |
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| 16:39.16 | paxcoder | NinjaMan: Stole your nick eh? |
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| 16:40.11 | NinjaMan | paxcoder - what you mean? |
| 16:40.43 | paxcoder | oh, wait. he got kicked. so you do have the nick. nevermind. |
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| 16:41.40 | paxcoder | kinda dead today in here... no problems on Thursday. |
| 16:41.58 | lunk | really good ones wait for saturday evening |
| 16:42.14 | simNIX | Im trying to get awe64 sound card working - dmesg sees this isa card. Ive chosen in multimedia systems OSS - but mixer cant be opened and the speaker icon shows a orange cros |
| 16:42.22 | simNIX | google wasnt much help |
| 16:42.39 | NinjaMan | simNIX: why OSS and not ALSA? |
| 16:42.40 | simNIX | im using etch |
| 16:43.07 | simNIX | no specal reason - since oss been working fine on another box I choose it |
| 16:43.56 | simNIX | ive also ran alsoconf - it saw the card but after a reboot also with alsa selected same prob ... |
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| 16:45.13 | NinjaMan | simNIX: how is it configured in the kernel? |
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| 16:47.47 | simNIX | NinjaMan, my dmesg says this http://simnix.webhop.info/pastebin/m7c61ddd1 - looks like detected but im not sure about that quirk |
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| 16:49.05 | E-bola | Whats the package that holds my kernel's source named? |
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| 16:49.41 | simNIX | im runnig standard kernel - no mods |
| 16:50.01 | NinjaMan | simNIX: yes that is just pnp detecting it but it doesn't indicate which drivers are loading for it |
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| 16:50.10 | simNIX | o |
| 16:50.12 | NinjaMan | simNIX: what do you mean by a standard kernel??? |
| 16:50.36 | simNIX | the one thats installed by debian - not one I modified |
| 16:50.37 | NinjaMan | simNIX: the drivers were probably built as modules - type lsmod and pastebin the output |
| 16:50.42 | simNIX | k |
| 16:51.16 | simNIX | no awe there - Ill paste it .. |
| 16:51.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | micols, man sudoers answers that rather clearly |
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| 16:52.44 | simNIX | NinjaMan, lsmod output is at http://simnix.webhop.info/pastebin/d10f6b46c |
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| 16:54.01 | NinjaMan | simNIX: I don't see any sound card drivers loaded |
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| 16:55.07 | NinjaMan | simNIX: have you tried http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Soundblaster-AWE.html#toc1 |
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| 16:55.48 | oklinux | NinjaMan, are you white or black NinjaMan ? |
| 16:56.02 | simNIX | NinjaMan, maybe I should try reseating the card ? |
| 16:56.08 | oklinux | or yellow ? |
| 16:56.22 | NinjaMan | oklinux: why do you ask that? |
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| 16:56.38 | simNIX | will have a look at that url - maybe isa awe65 isn in stock kernel anymore ? |
| 16:56.46 | simNIX | *54 |
| 16:56.49 | NinjaMan | simNIX: I think the problem is the correct driver is not loaded |
| 16:57.00 | NinjaMan | simNIX: clearly the system knows it is there |
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| 16:57.17 | simNIX | tru |
| 16:57.52 | simNIX | so I need to compile a custom kernel ? |
| 16:58.21 | NinjaMan | simNIX: try insmod snd_abawe |
| 16:58.34 | NinjaMan | simNIX: try insmod snd_sbawe |
| 16:58.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | echo? |
| 16:58.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | echo? |
| 16:59.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | ha, indeed |
| 16:59.17 | oklinux | can ypu repeat that CutMeOwnThroat ? |
| 16:59.30 | simNIX | NinjaMan, insmod: can't read 'snd_abawe': No such file or directory -> means not in stock kernel I think .. |
| 16:59.53 | NinjaMan | simNIX: no it means you have to specify the path I think - one moment |
| 17:00.00 | simNIX | k - ty |
| 17:00.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | oklinux, no |
| 17:00.47 | oklinux | come on |
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| 17:01.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | it was a lie, I can, but I won't |
| 17:02.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | how did you arrive at "snd_abawe"? |
| 17:02.45 | NinjaMan | simNIX: use modprobe snd-sbawe isapnp=1 or modprobe snd_sbawe isapnp=1 |
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| 17:03.35 | asulao | hello all. In a 686-debian etch r4a with kernel 2.6.24-etchnhalf installed, I'm trying to build kernel module ndiswrapper-source (m-a a-b ndiswrapper), but compilation fails, complaining about CFLAGS has changed (pastebin.ca/1234729). How can I build it? (I do have kernel-source, headers, etc. -`uname -r` installed). |
| 17:03.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | simNIX, it was a typo... try modprobe snd-sbawe |
| 17:03.51 | rodhash1 | Hi there, please, does anyknow know a software to monitor the laptop temperature ?? |
| 17:04.12 | oklinux | stew, i fixed the gdm session select |
| 17:04.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | rodhash1, lmsensors |
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| 17:04.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | !lm_sensors |
| 17:04.36 | dpkg | somebody said lm_sensors was a hardware health monitoring package that performs CPU temperature, fan speed monitoring, etc. It is packaged in the lm-sensors package. #linux-sensors @ irc.freenode.net |
| 17:05.12 | duhduh | !hddtemp |
| 17:05.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | duhduh, good job |
| 17:05.59 | simNIX | modprobe snd-sbawe and modprobe snd-sbawe isapnp=1 and snd_sbawe isapnp=1 all output nothing (no erros) -> only a lsmod after stil doesnt show awe |
| 17:06.07 | rodhash1 | All right, thanks a lot, I'm installing right now :-D |
| 17:06.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | simNIX, lsmod |grep awe shows nothing? check the dmesg output |
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| 17:07.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | ha |
| 17:07.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | actually *my* dmesg shows funy stuff: TCP: Treason uncloaked! Peer 91.23.218.192:1330/80 shrinks window 2373481953:2373495021. Repaired. |
| 17:07.41 | simNIX | I overlooked it in the long list |
| 17:07.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | wtf is this |
| 17:07.46 | simNIX | awe is showing now |
| 17:07.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | simNIX, :) |
| 17:08.03 | simNIX | but maybe too much |
| 17:08.05 | NinjaMan | simNIX: LOL |
| 17:08.08 | simNIX | since I loaded it 3x |
| 17:08.15 | simNIX | ill reboot the box to be sure |
| 17:08.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | simNIX, you cannot |
| 17:08.27 | NinjaMan | simNIX: don't |
| 17:08.29 | simNIX | k |
| 17:08.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | it's normally not possible to load a module multiple times |
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| 17:09.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | it might be if "THIS MODULE IS DIFFERENT" |
| 17:09.06 | NinjaMan | simNIX: or at least put snd-sbawe or snd_sbawe (whichever is correct) in your /etc/modules file first |
| 17:09.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | but I doubt it |
| 17:10.09 | NinjaMan | simNIX - so does sound work for you now?? If it doesn't then it will probably be a resource/irq sharing problem that these cards are renowned for |
| 17:10.23 | izzyb | what does the use_first_pass pam option do? I can't seem to find a doc that explains it via google. |
| 17:10.41 | simNIX | rebooting after I added snd-sbawe |
| 17:10.48 | simNIX | will teel as soon back up |
| 17:11.21 | asulao | nobody knows how to build a debian kernel module ? |
| 17:11.34 | NinjaMan | asulao : of course we do |
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| 17:11.53 | asulao | ok, then hat could be wrong with this: ? |
| 17:12.01 | asulao | hello all. In a 686-debian etch r4a with kernel 2.6.24-etchnhalf installed, I'm trying to build kernel module ndiswrapper-source (m-a a-b ndiswrapper), but compilation fails, complaining about CFLAGS has changed (pastebin.ca/1234729). How can I build it? (I do have kernel-source, headers, etc. -`uname -r` installed). |
| 17:12.16 | asulao | is 'm-a a-b ndiswrapper' correct? |
| 17:12.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | your pastebin is stale |
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| 17:13.07 | NinjaMan | asulao: I normally use m-a a-i - but I presume a-b is auto-build instead of auto-install ? |
| 17:13.14 | rodhash1 | Hi all, I've installed the lm-sensors, very nice, thanks. But this package created this two packages in /etc/init.d | /etc/rc2.d. |
| 17:13.14 | rodhash1 | Does anyone know what is the functional of these two files ? |
| 17:13.14 | rodhash1 | /etc/init.d/fancontrol |
| 17:13.14 | rodhash1 | /etc/init.d/lm-sensors |
| 17:13.14 | rodhash1 | . |
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| 17:13.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | hehe |
| 17:13.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | buibui |
| 17:13.40 | asulao | NinjaMan: yes, I just wanted to build before install, but I also tried a-i too, it failed anyway |
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| 17:13.53 | simNIX | NinjaMan & CutMeOwnThroat tnx for input; its fixed I have sound - apreciated - ) |
| 17:13.53 | asulao | CutMeOwnThroat: ops, let me create it again |
| 17:13.56 | NinjaMan | asulao: does the source version match your kernel version? |
| 17:14.06 | NinjaMan | simNIX: yw |
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| 17:14.12 | simNIX | :-) |
| 17:14.23 | simonrvn | !tell rodhash1 -about paste |
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| 17:15.17 | asulao | NinjaMan: actually I actually have both installed: linux-souce-2.6.18 and linux-source-2.6.24-etchnhalf |
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| 17:15.37 | asulao | NinjaMan: from the error log from m-a a-b, I understand it's using the 2.6.24 one |
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| 17:15.51 | asulao | (updating pastebin..) |
| 17:16.07 | NinjaMan | asulao: it will usually use the most current one, the one for the running kernel |
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| 17:16.53 | stew | asulao: m-a doesn't use source at all, it needs configured headers, it will look, by default, in /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build which should link to /usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r) if the right linux-haeders package is installed |
| 17:17.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | no, it should use the `uname -r` one |
| 17:17.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | hmpf, stew was not only faster, but also had 3 times as much content |
| 17:17.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | pf |
| 17:17.57 | stew | :) |
| 17:18.01 | NinjaMan | stew / CutMeOwnThroat: isn't 'uname -r' the running kernel? |
| 17:18.17 | stew | NinjaMan: yes |
| 17:18.39 | asulao | NinjaMan, CutMeOwnThroat: pastebin.ca/1234860 |
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| 17:19.51 | asulao | don't know how to get the entire log (because it's text windowed), so I just pasted the failing lines. |
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| 17:20.20 | stew | asulao: the log is in /var/cache/modass |
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| 17:21.01 | NinjaMan | asulao: what version of the ndiswrapper are you using? |
| 17:21.08 | asulao | okay, you need the complete log? |
| 17:21.21 | asulao | NinjaMan: default from etch r4a: 1.28-1 I think |
| 17:21.52 | asulao | I've seen there's a 1.5x (x don't remember), but that's for lenny, and I'm on etch |
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| 17:22.11 | asulao | maybe that has something to do? It may be an old ndiswrapper for kernel 2.6.24? |
| 17:22.15 | stew | asulao: you could install the ndiswrapper-source package from lenny and try again |
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| 17:22.41 | asulao | stew: can I do that with apt-get? |
| 17:23.03 | stew | asulao: i'd recommend just going to http://packages.debian.org/ndiswrapper-source and download a .deb from there |
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| 17:23.20 | asulao | ok |
| 17:23.22 | stew | asulao: setting up apt-get to pull packages from lenny is dangerous |
| 17:23.32 | asulao | going to try that thanks |
| 17:23.55 | stew | asulao: in most cases you wouldn't install a lenny pacakge directly onto etch, but since this package is just source, it doesn't bring dependencies with it that would cause a problem |
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| 17:25.30 | drwahl | do ssh sessions with X Forwarding have 3D acceleration? |
| 17:25.30 | asulao | anyway, this seems like an update issue for ndiswrapper with that etchnhalf kernel, right? |
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| 17:27.19 | Eulex | drwahl, no, and I don't believe there would be any point in implementing that, as the ssh link would be the bottleneck |
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| 17:28.03 | drwahl | Eulex: so i guess the next best option is VNC? |
| 17:28.32 | Eulex | drwahl, well, vnc doesn't give you any 3d accel either |
| 17:28.58 | izzyb | drwahl, what do yo want to do from remote with 3d accel? |
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| 17:29.08 | drwahl | so if i have a 3D app running on my desktop, and i want to be able to interact with it from a remote system, what should i do? |
| 17:29.46 | meyou | you don't |
| 17:29.50 | drwahl | izzyb: as of right now, its simply a theoretical practice, but for this, i'm using Wine/World of Warcraft |
| 17:30.09 | izzyb | drwahl, 3d accel is usually quite time sensitive. remote access doesn't work well with that |
| 17:30.30 | izzyb | isn't there a native linux wow? |
| 17:30.41 | meyou | no |
| 17:30.41 | drwahl | not that i know of izzyb |
| 17:30.47 | meyou | there's an OSX and a Windows |
| 17:30.51 | drwahl | yup |
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| 17:30.59 | Daemonik | How can I print a PDF file without using X11? |
| 17:31.00 | izzyb | hmm, thought I heard of such. maybe its a server only? |
| 17:31.14 | drwahl | yes, there is a linux native wow server |
| 17:31.20 | izzyb | if it works for osx, how hard would it be to do a linux version? |
| 17:32.12 | stew | heh, i seem to get about 150 FPS through ssh -X with glxgears :) |
| 17:32.13 | izzyb | drwahl, for wow, I'd just use a client on the local machine. it's client/server based anyway |
| 17:32.40 | izzyb | wow! that's more then I would have thought possible. |
| 17:32.43 | izzyb | what kind of network? |
| 17:32.52 | stew | izzyb: 802.11g |
| 17:32.55 | izzyb | assumes local lan |
| 17:33.00 | drwahl | its not really just for wow, i want to be able to run 3D apps on my desktop, but since i can access my desktop from anywhere, i want to be able to extend its reach throguh ssh, or maybe another app |
| 17:33.02 | izzyb | wireless even |
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| 17:33.04 | izzyb | impressive |
| 17:34.11 | paxcoder | what does ssh X session do anyway? What does it transfer if not images? And if yes images, than what's the difference if there are 3d effects on the other side or not? |
| 17:34.14 | drwahl | hmm... i think i just found an issue with my idea |
| 17:34.32 | drwahl | when i tried to run glxgears through ssh -X, it crashed my local xserver |
| 17:34.33 | drwahl | lol |
| 17:34.43 | meyou | ssh X session sends data |
| 17:34.53 | meyou | like 'create window at the position with these contents' etc etc |
| 17:34.57 | aragonX | Daemonik: Maybe convert it to ps with pdf2ps and pipe it to your printing system. |
| 17:35.23 | Daemonik | aragonX, How would I pipe it to my printing system? |
| 17:35.25 | bolt-work | paxcoder: basically the same as rdp, as opposed to image-sending software such as vnc |
| 17:35.34 | stew | it does disable direct rendering when I'm using ssh -X |
| 17:35.48 | aragonX | Daemonik: Which printing system do you use |
| 17:35.57 | Daemonik | CUPS |
| 17:36.10 | izzyb | stew, yeah, I'd expect as much |
| 17:36.24 | izzyb | kind of hard to directly access the hardware when it isn't in the box :) |
| 17:36.29 | stew | paxcoder: it doesn't transfer images, it just created a tunneled connection to the x server. all the communication between an x client and a x server are already network oriented, this just makes them go through an ssh tunnel |
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| 17:37.08 | asulao | stew: that made it, thanks |
| 17:37.08 | paxcoder | stew, hmmm. |
| 17:37.40 | paxcoder | stew, wouldn't that mean you have to have the desktop environment installed? |
| 17:37.56 | paxcoder | I mean, one which would send data to X just to receive it back? |
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| 17:38.35 | dustybin | if one mounts a partition what is network accessable (NFS), what kind of ownership / permissions should those mounts have to restrict certain users, should it be root:users 770 and put whoever id like access in the users group? |
| 17:38.38 | stew | paxcoder: whatever x client you want to run on the ssh server needs to be isntalled on the ssh server. typically that wouldn't be then entire desktop environment running on the ssh server, but could be |
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| 17:39.08 | izzyb | paxcoder, xwindows client/ server is backwords from the traditional concept. The server is the machine displaying the output the server is the one where the program runs frome |
| 17:39.22 | keith4 | izzyb: try again |
| 17:39.27 | izzyb | so you'd need an xwindows server running on the local workstation |
| 17:39.28 | paxcoder | hehe. |
| 17:39.38 | izzyb | keith4, ? |
| 17:39.42 | paxcoder | izzy: client/server |
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| 17:39.47 | keith4 | "The server is the machine displaying the output the server is the one where the program runs frome" |
| 17:39.53 | haqe43 | hello, some advice please. I am waiting for a server to come online and I want an alert so that I know. How should I do this? |
| 17:39.56 | haqe43 | or how could I get ping() to do something when it receives a response |
| 17:40.02 | stew | paxcoder: if i'm sitting at my x server, which runs gnome and everything, but i want to run an xterm on another machine, i can, from my x server run "ssh -X user@someothermachine xterm" and it will run the xterm on the someothermachine and the winodw shows up on my x server. in that case, only xterm (and whetever xterm directly depends on) needs to be installed on someothermachine |
| 17:40.14 | meyou | the server is the one running the programs, the client is the one displaying the output |
| 17:40.18 | meyou | they're usually on the same box tho |
| 17:40.24 | izzyb | oh, the client is the "server" where the program is running |
| 17:40.29 | stew | meyou: you got that backwards |
| 17:40.32 | izzyb | is that better? |
| 17:40.47 | aragonX | Daemonik: pdf2ps /path/to/file.pdf - | lpr |
| 17:40.48 | paxcoder | stew: i realize that, but what does X send back to you? |
| 17:40.58 | paxcoder | *remote x with xterm |
| 17:41.00 | stew | paxcoder: what do you mean? |
| 17:41.09 | stew | paxcoder: X is running on my local machine |
| 17:41.24 | meyou | aah |
| 17:41.25 | paxcoder | stew. oh ok. |
| 17:41.28 | stew | paxcoder: or do you mean the xlib protocol? |
| 17:41.53 | paxcoder | stew, so what does xterm send to x is then the question. xlib? could be... msging dpkg. |
| 17:42.00 | Daemonik | aragonX, Just found out that lpr file.pdf works. |
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| 17:42.39 | aragonX | Daemonik: Great! |
| 17:42.54 | stew | paxcoder: yes, xlib is the protocal that x clients speak to x servers. when you run an xterm locally, it speaks xlib to the server over a socket. the xlib protocol was designed with the xserver and x clients talking over a (possibly networked) socket |
| 17:43.08 | izzyb | paxcoder, xterm or any other xwindows app sends requests to open windows and such to the x server. It can be the local machine, but it doesn't have to |
| 17:43.11 | drwahl | stew: so why wouldnt 3D apps be able to run through ssh -X, or can they? (i was informed earlier that they can't) |
| 17:43.32 | stew | drwahl: yes, but they can't use direct rendering, since they have no direct access to the hardware anymore |
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| 17:44.04 | drwahl | stew: ah, ok. that makes sense |
| 17:44.11 | izzyb | drwahl, 3d apps bypass the client/server features of xwindows and talk dirrect to the hardware |
| 17:44.25 | paxcoder | stew: "when you run an xterm locally, it speaks xlib to the server over a socket". wait: what runs remotely then? x server or x client? |
| 17:44.53 | paxcoder | *i thought you said client |
| 17:45.10 | izzyb | the server is the machine displaying the output. the client is the host where the program being displayed comes from |
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| 17:45.52 | izzyb | its backwards from the way you usually think of client/server which can be confusing to say the least :) |
| 17:45.56 | stew | paxcoder: what I'm saying is that in the case where everything is running locally, but the xserver and the xterm, the communication between the two is still going over a socket. when you instead run the xterm on another machine via ssh -X, the communication is just being tunneled though ssh to the same local socket, so the x server doesn't know the difference, and the two still communicate identically (other than the bits being sent through an ssh tunnel on |
| 17:46.02 | paxcoder | izzyb, yes thx. |
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| 17:47.42 | paxcoder | stew: so you use windows on your x from server running xclient afar? i got it. |
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| 17:47.48 | dustybin | is anybody aware of a command what shows what users are in a group without looking at passwd ? |
| 17:48.36 | dustybin | i mean groups |
| 17:49.09 | avu | how would it do that? /etc/group is where this information is stored. |
| 17:49.36 | izzyb | dustybin, grep groupname /etc/group? |
| 17:49.57 | meyou | he wants to find out without looking for some odd reason |
| 17:50.02 | ptman | dustybin: getent group <groupname> |
| 17:50.16 | izzyb | yeah, I couldn't find anything so that was the best I could suggest :) |
| 17:50.19 | ptman | dustybin: I have groups in LDAP, so it doesn't check /etc/group |
| 17:50.32 | izzyb | ah, then you want to send an ldap query for the same |
| 17:50.37 | dustybin | ptman: aye ok |
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| 17:51.17 | simonrvn | `groups', `id' |
| 17:51.27 | ptman | dustybin: but genent just does what nss decides, so check out nsswitch.conf |
| 17:51.40 | dustybin | ok |
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| 17:51.48 | remote | hello |
| 17:51.52 | simonrvn | for ldap, those ^^^ should work, at worst you can use getent passwd |
| 17:51.53 | paxcoder | stew: oh. and thanks :-) izzyb too |
| 17:51.59 | remote | i'm trying to mount a memory card in an hp desktop, when i insert the card i see a green light on the box but i don't see the card when running `sg_map -i' does anyone know if i need to take other action before i can see and access the card? |
| 17:52.05 | remote | hey simonrvn! long time no see :-) |
| 17:52.09 | asulao | stew: I installed ndiswrapper-source-1.5x into etch, did a 'm-a a-b ndiswrapper' which was Ok, but then a 'm-a a-i' required install ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 (etch is 1.1), and when trying to install those is asked "Install this package without verification". Why does it ask this? |
| 17:52.22 | simonrvn | remote: hey dude :D |
| 17:52.42 | asulao | stew: normaly apt-get does not ask me this |
| 17:53.50 | stew | asulao: ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 is in etch |
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| 17:54.29 | asulao | stew: well it's strange, why does it ask me to install 1.9, if I already did an apt-get ndiswrapper-utils on my etch installation ? |
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| 17:55.40 | stew | asulao: ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 is in etch. the "without verification" stuff is talking about apt-secure (/msg dpkg apt-secure; /msg dpkg no public key) |
| 17:55.52 | stew | judd: versions ndiswrapepr-utils-1.9 |
| 17:55.53 | judd | stew: ndiswrapepr-utils-1.9: |
| 17:56.03 | stew | judd: versions ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 |
| 17:56.03 | judd | stew: ndiswrapper-utils-1.9: 1.28-1 (etch) 1.53-1 (lenny) 1.53-1 (sid) |
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| 17:56.10 | basix | so i wanted to install java plugin to iceweasel... i cant find it using synaptic... what the heck is wrong? i'm using x86_64 |
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| 17:56.22 | asulao | stew: btw my etch dpkg -i ndiswrapper-utils says it's 1.1 |
| 17:56.42 | asulao | it's strange |
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| 17:56.51 | jhutchins_wk | I have what I suspect is a media codec question. I have sound and flash working, I can play (at least some) youtube videos, but when I went to NPR to play an audio file nothing happened. Their java player said it was buffering the file, but it never played. |
| 17:57.23 | jhutchins_wk | (Here, let me grab the link...) |
| 17:57.24 | asulao | stew: btw my etch dpkg -s ndiswrapper-utils says it's 1.1 |
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| 17:58.48 | stew | asulao: yeah, that's ndiswrapper-utils, i'm talking about ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 which is a different package |
| 17:59.12 | jhutchins_wk | Hm... Supposed to be flash 9. |
| 17:59.23 | jhutchins_wk | I guess I'll just have to review the flash setup. |
| 18:01.17 | asulao | stew: ok, I needed to do an apt update, but anyway, something seems to get silently updated as it seems apt installed ndiswrapper-modules-etchnhalf, which didn't do before |
| 18:01.33 | izzyb | dustybin, try something like this: ldapsearch -x cn=books |
| 18:01.38 | izzyb | where books is the name of a group |
| 18:01.58 | asulao | stew: modprobe ndiswrapper worked now, without installing the ndiswrapper-source. many thankses for your time. |
| 18:02.01 | izzyb | sorry my ldapsearch wizardry is week but that'll get you started :) |
| 18:02.08 | abrotman | try #ldap |
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| 18:03.11 | simonrvn | 'weak' |
| 18:03.30 | izzyb | nods. that's what I meant :) |
| 18:03.52 | remote | i'm really having a hard time dealing with the set of sg_* commands |
| 18:04.09 | remote | i mounted the card the other day but i don't remember how and can't find the instructions back |
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| 18:06.48 | izzyb | dustybin, if you're looking for a gui to manage accounts checkout https://oss.gonicus.de/labs/gosa/ |
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| 18:07.14 | izzyb | you can get a list of users in a group via it easily :) |
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| 18:09.35 | jhutchins_wk | I've found a tutorial on setting up a debian desktop that recommends Automatix. I belive I've seen some criticism of that package on the *buntu channels, but their packaging is abit different. Is it considered safe to use on Debian? |
| 18:09.51 | izzyb | dustybin, phpldapadmin comes in handy for querying the server for such info also. |
| 18:10.44 | themill | !automatix |
| 18:10.45 | dpkg | [automatix] a tool which allows a menu-driven installation of 'capabilities', including commercial closed source programs such as Flash plug-in, Adobe Reader, w32codecs (divx, mp3, etc). You SHOULD NOT use it with Debian. Even the Ubuntu Technical Board advises against it. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html |
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| 18:14.23 | keith4 | why the hell would you ever need a script to install 3 things that you can install from apt anyway? |
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| 18:15.02 | maligor | probably to get the latest version |
| 18:15.20 | maligor | beats me why anyone would use win32 codecs tho |
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| 18:18.04 | petemc | maligor: what would you suggest as an alternative? |
| 18:18.27 | maligor | native codecs? |
| 18:18.33 | petemc | very useful |
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| 18:25.07 | SeveredCross | So, I'm installing Etch on a machine, and the installer is stuck at "Preparing to configure dictionaries-common." |
| 18:25.16 | SeveredCross | It appears that it has progressed further, at least according to the syslog. |
| 18:25.25 | SeveredCross | What can I do to jumpstart the GUI portion back into the real world? |
| 18:25.49 | SeveredCross | wonders what happens when you send d-i a sighup. |
| 18:26.14 | SeveredCross | Wait, did that actually work...? |
| 18:26.27 | asulao | 'ndiswrapper -l' says my wifi device is "driver installed, hardware present", but ifconfig doesn't show the interface, even though I added the ath0 entry line in interfaces. What else can I check ? |
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| 18:40.42 | used2bFR33L4NC3 | How does one configure the File Server witch is installed by selecting it while installing debian? |
| 18:41.20 | n3kl | used2bFR33L4NC3: I would guess that the file server daemons that are installed are nfs and samba |
| 18:41.31 | SeveredCross | Maybe FTP too. |
| 18:41.40 | stew | used2bFR33L4NC3: i guess that would be NFS? in which case, "man exports" "man exportfs" |
| 18:42.11 | n3kl | I have never uesd any of the install "schemes" |
| 18:42.16 | used2bFR33L4NC3 | Hmm... and how do I figure out witch one is installed... I got three optoins by now |
| 18:42.17 | SeveredCross | Me either. |
| 18:42.35 | used2bFR33L4NC3 | Samba NFS and FTP, but ftp is not a file server, it is a ftp-server |
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| 18:44.12 | n3kl | what is the command to reload init? |
| 18:44.55 | SeveredCross | Reload init? How do you mean? |
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| 18:45.29 | n3kl | ah, init q |
| 18:45.34 | n3kl | sorry, I meant inittab |
| 18:45.55 | SeveredCross | Aha. |
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| 18:46.00 | FR33L4NC3 | how does one restart the smaba server |
| 18:46.04 | FR33L4NC3 | *samba |
| 18:46.18 | SeveredCross | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:47.21 | FR33L4NC3 | ooooh... nice |
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| 18:48.28 | izzyb | FR33L4NC3, what causes you to want to restart samba? |
| 18:48.46 | themill | FR33L4NC3: the "file server" task includes netatalk, nfs, samba. You can see the list of what it includes in the aptitude curses interface (and probably other ways too) |
| 18:48.54 | FR33L4NC3 | izzyb: I added a user |
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| 18:49.12 | izzyb | I don't think that should require a restart |
| 18:49.30 | FR33L4NC3 | themill: Aptitude curses interface? |
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| 18:49.35 | otwieracz | Hello. |
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| 18:49.37 | izzyb | if you change config, you can get away with /etc/init.d/samba reload which causes smbd to reread the config |
| 18:49.41 | themill | FR33L4NC3: run "aptitude". |
| 18:49.44 | FR33L4NC3 | izzyb: I read somewhere it would |
| 18:49.55 | FR33L4NC3 | themill: In command line? |
| 18:50.30 | izzyb | hmm, it's been a while since I ran a bare bones samba (use ldap these days) but I dont think it was ever necessary to restart samba after adding a user |
| 18:50.32 | FR33L4NC3 | oooh... nive |
| 18:50.36 | FR33L4NC3 | *nic |
| 18:50.36 | izzyb | it isn't with ldap I know that much |
| 18:50.37 | FR33L4NC3 | e |
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| 18:51.23 | FR33L4NC3 | How can i figure out at what speed my processor runs? |
| 18:51.30 | otwieracz | How to create LiveCD from debian installed on hdd? |
| 18:51.34 | izzyb | FR33L4NC3, you may also want to know about testparm which will verify your samba config file doesn't have any errors |
| 18:51.36 | Eulex | FR33L4NC3, cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 18:51.44 | otwieracz | Something like linux-live. |
| 18:51.50 | izzyb | FR33L4NC3, cat /proc/cpuin |
| 18:51.58 | izzyb | er, what Eulex said :) |
| 18:52.21 | otwieracz | Huh? |
| 18:52.31 | Kysh | Odpowiec |
| 18:52.53 | FR33L4NC3 | Eulex: I gues BogoMIPS is my proc speed? |
| 18:52.55 | Eulex | otwieracz, live-helper or live-magic; only available in testing and on, thouhg |
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| 18:53.04 | Eulex | FR33L4NC3, define 'speed' |
| 18:53.06 | otwieracz | Eulex: Uh.. I have Eth. |
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| 18:53.24 | duhduh | bogomips is loops per jiffy right? |
| 18:53.27 | FR33L4NC3 | it sais 266.24 |
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| 18:53.33 | Eulex | otwieracz, then you won't have those packages. you could try backporting them. /msg dpkg ssb |
| 18:53.42 | duhduh | on older cpus i think it is close to the mhz |
| 18:53.45 | FR33L4NC3 | and NSLU2's speed should be about 266MHz so I gues thats the speed |
| 18:53.55 | Eulex | FR33L4NC3, it should list cpu MHZ |
| 18:53.56 | duhduh | old = those without mad pipelining and other voodoo |
| 18:54.13 | Studiosus_ | hi, all! I burnt dvd with growisofs -udf but now I can't mount it as udf dvd :( mount -t udf says in /var/log/messages: 'UDF-fs: No VRS found' |
| 18:54.37 | FR33L4NC3 | Eulex: It doesn't |
| 18:54.55 | Eulex | FR33L4NC3, guess the OS can't tell then. |
| 18:55.17 | FR33L4NC3 | :S dumb Debian ;) |
| 18:55.21 | FR33L4NC3 | :( |
| 18:55.37 | otwieracz | Eulex: how to use it? |
| 18:55.38 | otwieracz | 20:55 <otwieracz> backports live-helper |
| 18:55.38 | otwieracz | 20:55 <dpkg> are you using Windows? |
| 18:55.40 | otwieracz | ;) |
| 18:55.42 | izzyb | well, that's not a Debian problem. that's the kernel doesn't know |
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| 18:55.59 | FR33L4NC3 | izzyb: :P |
| 18:56.01 | stew | otwieracz: that's the bots cute way of telling you she doesn't know what you are talking about |
| 18:56.04 | Eulex | otwieracz, ask dpkg about ssb |
| 18:56.10 | SeveredCross | She, eh? |
| 18:56.19 | Eulex | !gender |
| 18:56.19 | dpkg | I'm hermaphroditic |
| 18:56.28 | SeveredCross | Ah, I see. |
| 18:56.31 | Eulex | !gender |
| 18:56.32 | dpkg | I'm hermaphroditic |
| 18:56.40 | Eulex | hmm, not random anymore? |
| 18:56.44 | stew | it is |
| 18:56.51 | n3kl | How do I see the numerical permissions of a file? |
| 18:56.59 | stew | !literal gender |
| 18:56.59 | dpkg | "gender" is "<reply> I'm (gay|lesbian|female|sexless|male|hermaphroditic|pregnant|not sure)" |
| 18:57.00 | Eulex | yeah. guess I just had bad luck then. |
| 18:57.08 | stew | or good |
| 18:57.12 | izzyb | lol |
| 18:57.14 | duhduh | lol not sure |
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| 18:57.32 | izzyb | lol pregnant |
| 18:57.48 | duhduh | !defined $self->gender |
| 18:57.58 | otwieracz | Eulex: he tell me to ask it that package has been alredy backported or not. |
| 18:58.00 | otwieracz | But how? |
| 18:58.02 | FR33L4NC3 | What does X do for a command line OS? |
| 18:58.02 | duhduh | $self->clone |
| 18:58.07 | otwieracz | Sorry about my english. |
| 18:58.20 | stew | otwieracz: http://packages.debian.org/packagname would list "etch-backports" if it has been backported |
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| 18:58.24 | asulao | 'ndiswrapper -l' says my wifi device is "driver installed, hardware present", but ifconfig doesn't show the interface, even though I added the ath0 entry line in interfaces. What else can I check ? |
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| 18:59.04 | SeveredCross | asulao: Try ifconfig ath0 up? |
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| 18:59.38 | chili_con_carne | hello having probems configuring my sources.list |
| 18:59.46 | chili_con_carne | can anyone help me out? |
| 19:00.00 | otwieracz | Eulex: ok, there is backport for etch |
| 19:00.01 | mhymn | !ask |
| 19:00.01 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 19:00.04 | stew | asulao: did you '/etc/init.d/networking restart' or 'ifup ath0' after editing /etc/network/interfaces? |
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| 19:00.27 | oklinux | you go stew |
| 19:00.49 | chili_con_carne | cool, I am running debian etch, and my sources.list is not properly configured |
| 19:01.01 | stew | chili_con_carne: /msg dpkg sources.list |
| 19:01.09 | asulao | SeveredCross: ath0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device |
| 19:01.09 | chili_con_carne | I tried google and added a mirror but didn't work |
| 19:01.11 | chili_con_carne | stew: ok |
| 19:01.28 | stew | chili_con_carne: be more specific than "didn't work" |
| 19:01.31 | n3kl | what is the numerical permission of: drwxrwxrwt |
| 19:01.34 | asulao | !tell chili_con_carne about sources.list |
| 19:01.36 | stew | n3kl: 1777 |
| 19:01.39 | asulao | ops xD |
| 19:01.57 | asulao | !sources.list |
| 19:01.58 | dpkg | The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian etch main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <apt-setup> <etch security> <testing security> "man sources.list" and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
| 19:02.03 | n3kl | stew: do you know how to view that with ls or somethign? |
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| 19:02.14 | stew | n3kl: stat filename |
| 19:02.34 | rxvt | dove stanno gli export/declare delle variabili d'ambiente ??? |
| 19:02.40 | n3kl | stew: nice, thanks! |
| 19:02.42 | stew | !it |
| 19:02.42 | dpkg | Ciao, Prego utilizzi #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in Italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help. |
| 19:02.44 | rxvt | dovrei settare MANPATH |
| 19:02.59 | chili_con_carne | stew: it works! I just was using wrong syntax it seemed lol |
| 19:03.02 | asulao | SeveredCross: it's strange I've done everything in macbook wiki for wireless, my iface should be up by itself I guess, and be visible in gnome network configurator |
| 19:03.06 | rafajsp | !it |
| 19:03.06 | dpkg | Ciao, Prego utilizzi #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in Italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help. |
| 19:03.06 | chili_con_carne | stew: thx! |
| 19:03.12 | rxvt | oh sorry XD |
| 19:03.12 | rafajsp | !ask |
| 19:03.12 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 19:04.01 | mhymn | !tell rafajsp about msg the bot |
| 19:04.08 | Jrm | !fail |
| 19:04.11 | Jrm | :( |
| 19:04.28 | chili_con_carne | stew: first time I ever intalled debian I choose a mirror and it instaled all software from it... and crashed install... so I never choose the mirror option anymore when installing debian like now |
| 19:04.51 | otwieracz | Eulex: but... how to use live-helper? :) |
| 19:05.28 | Eulex | otwieracz, it should have documentation. take a look in /usr/share/doc/live-helper when you have it installed. also take a look at the man pages it installs. |
| 19:05.45 | otwieracz | Ok. |
| 19:05.46 | otwieracz | Thanks, |
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| 19:09.07 | chili_con_carne | loves debian :) (if only acer was linux friendly...) (so I am forced to run it under a vm...) |
| 19:09.42 | abrotman | chili_con_carne: you know that Acer sells a netbook with a debian derivative on it? |
| 19:09.49 | asulao | what reason may there be for ndiswrapper -l list my device hardware present, but then device ath0 not visible anywhere ? |
| 19:10.26 | asulao | chili_con_carne: think acer isn't friendly, u should try a macbook :S |
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| 19:10.44 | asulao | it's horrible |
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| 19:10.59 | chili_con_carne | abrotman: well that may be the case BUT I do know that acer has no offical linux support, use laptop's that have hardware that only have drivers made specifically for windows |
| 19:11.22 | abrotman | so? |
| 19:11.40 | abrotman | Neither does IBM IIRC .. but i use debian on my thinkpad |
| 19:11.44 | chili_con_carne | abrotman: this laptop specifically has no ethernet support for linx I searched google and find only one page in the internet on how to install the drivers from a rar archive |
| 19:11.56 | jelly-home | abrotman: Lenovo. |
| 19:11.56 | chili_con_carne | abrotman: I think that is not Linux friendly attitude |
| 19:12.03 | chili_con_carne | jelly-home: lol |
| 19:12.24 | jelly-home | unless it's a pre-2005 thinkpad |
| 19:12.48 | chili_con_carne | asulao: o0o.... yea I would imagine lol |
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| 19:13.11 | et | i ran linux on an my last acer laptop without problems |
| 19:13.12 | asulao | heh |
| 19:13.16 | asulao | driving me nuts |
| 19:13.22 | jelly-home | chili_con_carne: I can only say I investigate hardware linux compatibility before buying |
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| 19:13.44 | chili_con_carne | et: no audio support (AT ALL and pain in hell to get ethernet working) |
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| 19:13.46 | duhduh | asulao - yarg, thats why the wheel is on your belt buckle |
| 19:14.32 | abrotman | jelly-home: no .. IBM |
| 19:14.39 | et | well, "without problems" means without unfixable problems |
| 19:14.45 | abrotman | chili_con_carne: what is your NIC? |
| 19:14.53 | chili_con_carne | jelly-home: of course but mainy people have always told me "Acer is linux friendly" that is bs lol I emailin them with simple questios about dual booting and guy states they will not help at all and would onlyhelp if I had receipt to my laptop |
| 19:14.57 | chili_con_carne | abrotman: hold on |
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| 19:15.45 | jelly-home | chili_con_carne: yeah, I know of no _laptop_ manufacturer that is explicitely linux friendly |
| 19:15.57 | duhduh | does penguin make laptops? |
| 19:16.05 | duhduh | they do rackmount jobs |
| 19:16.16 | jelly-home | duhduh: who? |
| 19:16.22 | duhduh | Penguin Computing |
| 19:16.43 | jelly-home | never heard of them |
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| 19:16.51 | SeveredCross | Hey guys, if I have a packages.txt that I got from dpkg --get-selections, how do I get those packages to be installed again via dpkg --set-selections? |
| 19:17.31 | stew | SeveredCross: /msg dpkg selections |
| 19:17.45 | SeveredCross | Yeah, I just found it. ^_^ |
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| 19:18.07 | SeveredCross | Whee, lots of packages to upgrade. |
| 19:18.15 | jelly-home | duhduh: on the server side, there's a number of vendors. But the very same companies don't do much to support linux laptops |
| 19:18.21 | SeveredCross | I like being able to migrate an entire Debian system just by copying /etc, /home and dpkg --get-selections. |
| 19:18.35 | SeveredCross | There is something inherently awesome about that. |
| 19:20.18 | jamon | SeveredCross: why not go all out and use dd :p |
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| 19:22.42 | SeveredCross | jamon: Because that would keep whatever brokenness I had in my machine in the first place. :P |
| 19:23.09 | jamon | true |
| 19:23.10 | SeveredCross | hopes this doesn't break teh system too badly. |
| 19:23.24 | SeveredCross | I restored /etc, then /home, then dpkg --set-selections and apt-get -u dselect-upgrade |
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| 19:24.00 | jamon | what about /var e.g. mysql, mail etc. |
| 19:24.21 | SeveredCross | Mail's in ~ for each user, and MySQL/apache/etc. had nothing anyway. |
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| 19:25.08 | duhduh | SeveredCross - you should do a 1-page write-up for us noobs |
| 19:25.22 | duhduh | im furiously man'ning as you type :) |
| 19:25.26 | SeveredCross | Not very hard. :-P |
| 19:25.52 | SeveredCross | I may write something up when I finish rebuilding this. |
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| 19:26.08 | duhduh | nothing huge, just like 3 paragraphs |
| 19:26.10 | chili_co2_carne | abrotman: 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Attansic Technology Corp. Unknown device 1026 (rev b0) |
| 19:26.17 | duhduh | like a reminder |
| 19:26.23 | duhduh | or checklist |
| 19:26.28 | abrotman | chili_co2_carne: update-pciids might help you identify it |
| 19:26.44 | SeveredCross | Hargh, I screwed up, forgot to migrate /etc/mtab before I restored /etc. |
| 19:27.04 | abrotman | chili_co2_carne: i've been to your town .. even to a baseball game there |
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| 19:27.25 | SeveredCross | Stalker! |
| 19:27.58 | seed__ | is there a way to install firefox2 and firefox3 together with aptitude? |
| 19:28.09 | chili_co2_carne | ok... |
| 19:28.15 | jelly-home | seed__: no |
| 19:28.19 | chili_co2_carne | abrotman: well no that device only has 3links on google lol |
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| 19:29.50 | seed__ | jelly-home: do I have to compile firefox2 if I want it? |
| 19:30.06 | stdisease | chili_co1_carne: you need the 'atl1' driver |
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| 19:30.33 | chili_co2_carne | stdisease: yea I know I have it working now ;) but now there is webcame, microphone and audio support |
| 19:30.45 | chili_co2_carne | stdisease: nothing on the internet for those devices |
| 19:31.07 | jelly-home | seed__: which debian release are you using |
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| 19:33.54 | grei | I tried to install snort on debian and it hangs on "Preconfiguring packages ..." |
| 19:33.58 | grei | what could be the problem? |
| 19:34.05 | nocte | hiya |
| 19:34.21 | nocte | does sysctl.conf is read during the boot ? (debian lenny) |
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| 19:35.51 | dmoerner | nocte, yes |
| 19:35.58 | dustybin | is there a way to make NFS always use the same owner:group whenever anything is written to a mount to avoid messy usernames and groups? |
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| 19:36.25 | nocte | dmoerner: thx for ur help, because i have an issue |
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| 19:36.42 | nocte | well i uncommented this line in sysctl.conf |
| 19:36.44 | nocte | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:36.47 | stew | dustybin: "man exports" and search for squash |
| 19:36.54 | nocte | after a reboot, ipv6 packet fwding not work |
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| 19:36.55 | dustybin | stew: aye thanks |
| 19:37.02 | nocte | but if i do echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/all/forwarding |
| 19:37.03 | nocte | it works |
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| 19:37.23 | nocte | and if i do echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/all/forwarding |
| 19:37.28 | stew | nocte: try running "sysctl -p" and see if you get an error. /etc/rcS.d/S30procps.sh should be running "sysctl -p" when you boot |
| 19:37.29 | nocte | and then sysctl -p, result is 1 |
| 19:37.38 | nocte | so it gets set to 1 |
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| 19:37.47 | ukatan | hey, I was wondering how to stop cron from spamming me with emails |
| 19:38.01 | nocte | oh, i can grep sysctl in rsS.d so |
| 19:38.09 | nocte | S30procps.sh you say |
| 19:38.18 | stew | yes |
| 19:38.20 | nocte | if its not, can I add it into ? |
| 19:38.33 | stew | ukatan: you can supress the output of your scripts. if they have no output, nothing will be mailed |
| 19:38.39 | nocte | (im away right now from my pc) |
| 19:38.55 | stew | nocte: it really should already be there |
| 19:39.11 | ukatan | ah ok |
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| 19:40.12 | nocte | stew : ok,then. i'll tell you when i'm in front of my pc. thx anyway for your support man. |
| 19:40.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | dustybin, would you mind changing your nick, I find it deeply offensive |
| 19:40.38 | dustybin | drwxr-xr-x 2 nobody nogroup 4096 2008-10-23 20:40 TEST |
| 19:40.40 | dustybin | thats better |
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| 19:41.08 | grei | actually I apt-get install hangs at "Preconfiguring packages" whatever I do |
| 19:41.12 | dustybin | !tell CutMeOwnThroat about trolling |
| 19:41.22 | grei | what may be wrong? |
| 19:41.49 | nocte | well. stew : i'm using virtual ipv6 for a VPN IPSEC (strongswa). i am wondering if i need to put only ipv6 forwarding packet, or also ipv4 ... |
| 19:41.49 | stew | grei: does this happen when you run "apt-get -f install"? |
| 19:41.55 | stew | CutMeOwnThroat: use /ignore |
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| 19:42.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | stew, it's just a running gag between us... |
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| 19:43.13 | grei | stew: i ll try it |
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| 19:43.59 | grei | it still hangs at "apt-get -f upgrade" |
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| 19:44.18 | stew | grei: did you try "apt-get -f install"? or just "apt-get -f upgrade"? |
| 19:44.25 | grei | the 2nd |
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| 19:44.46 | grei | and i recently did successfully an "apt-get update" |
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| 19:46.04 | jelly-home | CutMeOwnThroat: running? it's barely standing |
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| 19:47.14 | nocte | stew : i'm using virtual ipv6 for a VPN IPSEC (strongswa). i am wondering if i need to put only ipv6 forwarding packet, or also ipv4 ... |
| 19:47.32 | grei | hmm, any other ideas on what might be wrong with apt? |
| 19:48.02 | nocte | apt-get -f install : which result do you have grei ? |
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| 19:49.20 | grei | apt-get -f install : without defining some package will just print the usual stuff |
| 19:49.31 | grei | when defining a package, it still hangs |
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| 19:49.47 | nocte | and what do you need ? |
| 19:49.50 | nocte | exactly |
| 19:50.03 | grei | well, firstly i need to fix this problem in general |
| 19:50.05 | nocte | oh |
| 19:50.06 | nocte | m |
| 19:50.23 | nocte | did you try --ignore-hold ? |
| 19:50.31 | grei | let me check |
| 19:50.49 | nocte | if it not work |
| 19:50.52 | nocte | try -ourge |
| 19:50.54 | nocte | -purge |
| 19:51.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | jelly-home, sometimes you have to learn to run before you learn to crawel (e.g. when the mob is hunting you) |
| 19:51.06 | nocte | --purge |
| 19:51.09 | nocte | sorry |
| 19:51.16 | stew | grei: can you show us the output of "apt-get -f install" ? use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
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| 19:51.26 | hugleo | http://www.ihateyoujulia.com/?id=5804dea1f62ef3ee977b8e80620c8759 |
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| 19:53.11 | grei | stew: http://pastebin.com/d51af91e0 |
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| 19:53.45 | tuxcrafter | hello everybody where can i find the options that i can use on my system for the LANG env? |
| 19:54.04 | stew | grei: ok, so the problem is with some new pacakge, not one that is already on your system. can you show us the output from a command that is giving you problems? |
| 19:54.26 | lem0n | i know webmin is discouraged by the community, i'm just curious why, and i don't remember the bot commands, can someone do the 'whynot webmin' (whatever the command is), so i can read about it? |
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| 19:55.13 | radius | ./msg dpkg webmin |
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| 19:55.29 | grei | stew: the problem is that with every new package I want to install it hangs: for example I did an "apt-get -f upgrade" and a "apt-get -f dist-upgrade" and also a "apt-get -f install snort" and *every* one of them gets stuck on "Preconfiguring packages" |
| 19:55.40 | FoxM | Hi. I have a amd64 kernel ('uname -rm' shows: '2.6.26-1-amd64 x86_64') and 4GB RAM physically installed (4096 MB as shown in BIOS and HwInfo32 in Windows) yet the total memory addressed by the system is 3.5 GB ('free -m' reports: total Mem: 3527), like if it were a 32-bit kernel. (Windows XP 32 bits also reports 3.5 GB). How can I address the rest of the memory? |
| 19:55.45 | stew | grei: yes, i understand that |
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| 19:56.25 | grei | as far as the output is concerned, it's really nothing out of the ordinary except for the fact that it hangs on "Preconfiguring packages ..." as I said |
| 19:57.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | lem0n, try "/msg dpkg listkeys webmin" to find it (and it's just "webmin") |
| 19:57.11 | lem0n | ah k, thanks |
| 19:57.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | grei, the output normally contains the package that it hangs at... which is what you have to find out next |
| 19:58.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | (or we have to find out for you) |
| 19:58.43 | stew | lem0n: it had lots of security problems, and nobody was willing to maintain it for debian except for the webmin authors themselves, but the debian packages the webmin authors produced were of very low quality and demonstrated a severe misunderstanding about how debian packages work |
| 19:58.54 | lem0n | ah i see |
| 19:59.34 | stew | lem0n: it was in debian, but the person maintaining it didn't want to maintain it, and after a year of asking couldn't get anyone to help him, so it was removed |
| 19:59.43 | lem0n | yeah |
| 19:59.49 | grei | CutMeOwnThroat: well, the fact is that it hangs on any package, and the output really doesn't mention anything afaik |
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| 20:00.05 | gothenburg | SVT 1 nuu! |
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| 20:00.12 | stew | grei: you could strace it |
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| 20:00.28 | d0uglas | hi. can i set a .forward file to forward to multiple addresses? |
| 20:00.39 | grei | i saw with ps that it hangs on dpkg-preconfigure |
| 20:00.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | grei, but not on which package/file |
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| 20:01.24 | grei | well, strace hangs on a read systemcall |
| 20:01.36 | grei | it must be blocking obviously |
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| 20:02.48 | grei | oups wrong |
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| 20:02.58 | grei | that was because of the question about "are you sure" |
| 20:03.17 | grei | it is a waitpid(2970, Preconfiguring packages ... that it hangs |
| 20:03.40 | smacnay | an recommendations on a laptop company providing products with lots of options (usb, firewire, hdmi, etc.)? |
| 20:04.13 | et | i'd guesst most do |
| 20:04.28 | et | my hp notebook does, without me looking for firewire or hdmi ;) |
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| 20:06.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | d0uglas, yes |
| 20:07.58 | rebecka | is there any nice way of running to separate wm:s on to dual head screens? (wmii and kde that is...) |
| 20:07.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | d0uglas, you can also set it to leave a local copy by entering the local address, but take care not to create an infinite loop that way |
| 20:08.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | d0uglas, one line per address |
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| 20:08.16 | rebecka | *two |
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| 20:09.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | rebecka, did you read on the randr extension? Guess if there is one it'll be mentioned there |
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| 20:09.11 | tuxcrafter | i got an question lets imagin somebody dont use gnome or kde and uses some X program and would like to set his language to something else , he should set his LANG evn but where can i find the options and should this be set like export LANG=... in .bashprofile ? |
| 20:10.40 | rebecka | CutMeOwnThroat: how would I "read on the randr extension" (I don't know much about Xorg at all...) |
| 20:11.07 | grei | ok nothing can happen, apt-get has become useless |
| 20:11.23 | rebecka | CutMeOwnThroat: btw the driver is mga (matrox card...) |
| 20:11.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | tuxcrafter, locale -a shows you the installed locales and yes, it'd be export LANG=something and LC_CTYPE=something in .bashrc // .profile // /etc/bash.bashrc // /etc/bashprofile |
| 20:12.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | !3R |
| 20:12.06 | dpkg | rumour has it, 3r is Rotate and Resize (and Reflect) extensions for XFree86, that allow the xserver to inform the x-clients of desktop size (etc) changes, so they can update themselves. http://keithp.com/~keithp/talks/randr/ |
| 20:12.14 | tuxcrafter | CutMeOwnThroat: thank you very much |
| 20:12.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | rebecka, hm, that site is outdated - current version is >=1.2 |
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| 20:13.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, that's not what you want, I guess :) |
| 20:13.33 | FoxM | Hi. I have a amd64 kernel ('uname -rm' shows: '2.6.26-1-amd64 x86_64') and 4GB RAM physically installed (4096 MB as shown in BIOS and HwInfo32 in Windows) yet the total memory addressed by the system is 3.5 GB ('free -m' reports: total Mem: 3527), like if it were a 32-bit kernel. (Windows XP 32 bits also reports 3.5 GB). How can I address the rest of the memory? |
| 20:13.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | !xinerama |
| 20:13.34 | dpkg | rumour has it, xinerama is where you have several monitors but only one logical desktop -- XFree86 4.0 and X.org have it! Documentation is available: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/Xinerama-HOWTO.html , or functionality is provided by randr in recent Xorg drivers, see http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12 for howto. |
| 20:13.58 | tuxcrafter | CutMeOwnThroat: hehe now to figure out how to install other language |
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| 20:14.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | rebecka, have a look at http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12 that deals with randr1.2 and hopefully covers your case |
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| 20:15.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | !locales |
| 20:15.38 | dpkg | Use `dpkg-reconfigure locales' to get it up and running. This generates locale definitions and also edits /etc/environment (in Sarge) or /etc/default/locale (etch or newer) which sets the $LANG environment variable at login time. |
| 20:15.53 | rebecka | CutMeOwnThroat: I'm using Xinemara (mostly 'cause I found a xorg.conf file for that) but I'll check out RandR then! |
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| 20:16.54 | CryptoMole | hi all |
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| 20:17.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | rebecka, I've not used dual displays often, so I can only point you in the general direction of where to possibly find what you want... |
| 20:17.45 | dustybin | do i really need to restart my whole box before new group settings are recognized? |
| 20:18.00 | CryptoMole | I have deb etch and iceweaseal as my browser and no youtube cant get flash10 installed? |
| 20:18.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | dustybin, no! what settings do you mean? |
| 20:18.26 | dustybin | /etc/group |
| 20:18.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | dustybin, normally you have to log in anew |
| 20:18.42 | dustybin | aye just re-login |
| 20:18.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | su myownnick would do it |
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| 20:18.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | or should do it |
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| 20:19.49 | dustybin | CutMeOwnThroat: ive written a irssi regex script what replaces 'CutMeOwnThroat' with 'FairyCake' |
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| 20:20.24 | CryptoMole | I have deb etch and iceweaseal as my browser and no youtube cant get flash10 installed? |
| 20:20.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | dustybin, I always considered it a bit of a weird thing that you have to log out... changes in /etc/passwd are instantaneous, so why not this... |
| 20:21.13 | FoxM | Hi. I have a amd64 kernel ('uname -rm' shows: '2.6.26-1-amd64 x86_64') and 4GB RAM physically installed (4096 MB as shown in BIOS and HwInfo32 in Windows) yet the total memory addressed by the system is 3.5 GB ('free -m' reports: total Mem: 3527), like if it were a 32-bit kernel. (Windows XP 32 bits also reports 3.5 GB). How can I address the rest of the memory? |
| 20:21.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | dustybin, haha... ywould you mind replacing it by something that is less offensive to me? :) |
| 20:21.46 | Gryfelhase | aehm.... I'm using rox-filer from etch. I have strange effect, maybe someone can confirm, that it appears by you too. If I would like to rename a dir to OS, it is forced to be called os (lowers the chars). Happens on a fat 32-usbstick, when mounting it as root and runing rox from a root-terminal |
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| 20:22.23 | Gryfelhase | doesn't happen on my users ext3-formated home |
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| 20:23.21 | CryptoMole | will go back to fucking google thanks for not answering |
| 20:23.38 | Tim-S | what packages do I need for OpenGL support? |
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| 20:24.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | FoxM, hm... for the 32-bit kernels, there is the -bigmem variant... but I don't know why you have problems with a 64-bit kernel |
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| 20:24.39 | stew | CryptoMole: there is a flashplugin-nonfree package in contrib for flash10 but it is currently only in experimental |
| 20:24.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | Gryfelhase, normal fat doesn't distinguish between upper/lower case... vfat might in an extension... |
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| 20:25.00 | Tim-S | what packages contain the openGL libraries? |
| 20:25.17 | simond | what's the proper way to force loading of a module in a packages debian/ files? Just append to /etc/modules, or is there some other hook? |
| 20:25.18 | blubberdiblub | Gryfelhase, that's the behaviour of the vfat filesystem module. it happens to all-uppercase filenames that fit into 8.3. look at the shortname= option to vfat in "man mount" |
| 20:25.31 | FoxM | CutMeOwnThroat: I do not know either! :( how can I check the amd64 kernel is actually working in 64 bits? I think GRUB also reports 3.5 GB of ram, so maybe the problem starts from there? |
| 20:25.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | Gryfelhase, "man fs" search for fat (seems vfat only gives you long filenames, but upper/lower case is not distinguished) |
| 20:26.00 | Gryfelhase | Ok, thx alot |
| 20:26.10 | rebecka | Yay RandR for the win I get two $DISPLAY:s on my two monitors now I just need to figure out how to make kdm start wmii on one and kde on the other... |
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| 20:28.23 | stew | rebecka: you can't have more than one WM in the same server |
| 20:29.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | FoxM, I just see, there's also a #debian-amd64 |
| 20:29.51 | rebecka | stew : damn... you certain ? the screens do have separate $Display? (not getting why not..) |
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| 20:30.20 | FoxM | CutMeOwnThroat: I know... I already posted my problem there... but no one answers |
| 20:30.24 | De_Mon | looks at rebecka |
| 20:30.30 | De_Mon | looks away |
| 20:30.32 | FR33L4NC3 | looks |
| 20:30.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | looks what all those guys are looking at |
| 20:31.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | thinks De_Mon has the evil eye |
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| 20:32.24 | moodog | evening all. |
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| 20:33.31 | rebecka | stew: sorry 'bout that did you say something whilst I was gone? |
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| 20:34.11 | superlinux | hi all |
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| 20:34.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | rebecka, try it anyways - two different displays normally also means 2 different servers.... - if it fails, just start one X server for each display |
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| 20:34.56 | otwieracz | hello |
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| 20:35.45 | un | does anyone here have a ready link for the 0ct 23 update of dvd iso's? All the debian.org site's mirrors (torrent, ftp, http) have august timestamps, but the main page says 4.0 was updated today... any help would be nice... |
| 20:36.09 | stew | rebecka: i'm certain that you can't have more than one window manager running in an xserver |
| 20:36.26 | Guerin | un: cdimage.debian.org? |
| 20:36.35 | un | guerun: thanks! |
| 20:36.43 | rebecka | CutMeOwnThroat: thanks, I'll try! |
| 20:36.52 | Guerin | un: that's the master site from which all the other mirrors replicate. |
| 20:37.07 | un | Guerin: wait... i've been there already... |
| 20:37.13 | otwieracz | is any software for debian similar to linux-live? |
| 20:37.23 | un | Guerin: oh... so there are no uploads yet of todays update? |
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| 20:37.37 | Guerin | un: that will be the most up-to-date public repository. You might just have to wait a few hours. |
| 20:37.38 | rebecka | stew: would you too think that the differences in $DISPLAY would mean there is hope? |
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| 20:37.53 | un | Guerin: oh... well thanks i appreciate it... |
| 20:38.00 | Illusion | Hello folks |
| 20:38.06 | stew | un: 4.0r5 was release like an hour ago, so mirrors haven't yet had time to update |
| 20:38.06 | binarymutant | hiya |
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| 20:38.13 | stew | rebecka: no |
| 20:38.15 | Illusion | Can anybody offer me some help please? |
| 20:38.22 | binarymutant | !ask |
| 20:38.23 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 20:38.33 | Illusion | lol ok |
| 20:38.36 | un | Illusion: how can we help you... |
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| 20:38.54 | Illusion | Well i seem to have a problem within /var/log/mail.log |
| 20:39.04 | tuxcrafter | CutMeOwnThroat: thanks i fixed my language -p |
| 20:39.05 | otwieracz | i was try live-helper, but it makes livecd from fresh os. |
| 20:39.09 | nocte | !ask |
| 20:39.09 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 20:39.13 | nocte | sorry. |
| 20:39.43 | Illusion | only local emails are being send there, no outgoing emails sent with php mailer. I'm using postfix for it |
| 20:40.02 | Illusion | *emails are being sent, but not logged |
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| 20:40.05 | otwieracz | i need something what makd livecd from system what i have on hdd. |
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| 20:40.45 | otwieracz | sonebody know tool what make this for me? |
| 20:40.59 | un | Illusion: sry man, im not a server guy... can't help ya... have you googled it yet? |
| 20:41.33 | Illusion | i've tried, the problem isn't findable through a google search |
| 20:41.51 | Illusion | i have reinstalled postfix |
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| 20:42.08 | Illusion | but the /var/log/mail.log is saved only once a day at 9 am |
| 20:42.18 | Illusion | every day a new file is being crated |
| 20:42.32 | Illusion | but all without logs of outgoing emails |
| 20:42.34 | otwieracz | huh? |
| 20:43.11 | Illusion | tail /var/log/mail.log - doesn't update anything when a mail has been sent |
| 20:43.39 | jamon | Illusion: sometimes you'll see mail log stuff in syslog, checked there? |
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| 20:44.20 | jamon | in fact, i think postfix uses syslog by default |
| 20:44.35 | Illusion | jamon: true but it worked before in /var/log/mail.log - the file was being update like every second when a mail was sent |
| 20:44.47 | simNIX | try tail -f -> that wil show updates |
| 20:44.50 | FR33L4NC3 | How can one install a printer on a command line OS? |
| 20:44.50 | abrotman | Illusion: did you set a different smtp host in the php script ? |
| 20:44.57 | otwieracz | nobody can help me? |
| 20:45.15 | Illusion | no the smtp host is set in main.cf |
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| 20:45.38 | superlinux | guys! something like weird.. i woke up this morning and found my computer clock wrong? what's that? |
| 20:45.39 | Illusion | simNIX: tried tail -f as well |
| 20:45.52 | duhduh | hax0rzz |
| 20:46.12 | duhduh | flaking cmos battery/ |
| 20:46.18 | jhutchins_wk | otwieracz: In order to do that, you have to stick to a limited install, like from a live CD. |
| 20:46.32 | binarymutant | superlinux, have you looked in your bios? |
| 20:46.42 | superlinux | no |
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| 20:46.45 | jhutchins_wk | otwieracz: A full system install from the network repos or multiple CD's/DVD will be too much to re-master. |
| 20:47.06 | Illusion | superlinux: do --> /usr/sbin/ntpdate -u no.pool.ntp.org and put it in a cronjob |
| 20:47.07 | jhutchins_wk | otwieracz: Look for topics like "remaster" or "respin" for the live CD of your choice. |
| 20:47.12 | binarymutant | superlinux, I would try changing it back there first |
| 20:47.15 | superlinux | but i rebooted i went back on correct time with ntpd |
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| 20:47.32 | \amethyst | shopt -s nullglob; files=(*" "*); if (( ${#files[@]} > 0 )) |
| 20:47.33 | \amethyst | doh |
| 20:47.34 | superlinux | it's not that.. this is the second time it happens |
| 20:47.56 | Illusion | do you disconnect the power from the computer? |
| 20:48.00 | otwieracz | there is no chances for remaster this? |
| 20:48.23 | superlinux | it had an uptime of like 50 days at least |
| 20:48.34 | superlinux | and then is also slow |
| 20:48.55 | superlinux | and it has hardware RAID mirror |
| 20:48.58 | stew | superlinux: if you are using ntp then dont bother with ntpdate, just make sure you have iburst enabled |
| 20:49.19 | superlinux | what is iburst? |
| 20:49.49 | superlinux | and i have a dual cpu system with hyperthreading |
| 20:51.03 | stew | superlinux: aiui, if your clock is way off, having iburst will allow it to get back in sync much more quickly (like it will take minutes not hours for ntp to nudge your clock back into sync) |
| 20:51.42 | superlinux | stew, so? how do i enable it? |
| 20:51.53 | superlinux | stew, so? how do i enable iburst? |
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| 20:52.26 | stew | superlinux: in the server lines of ntp.conf, it would go in the options after the address |
| 20:52.41 | superlinux | ok |
| 20:52.45 | superlinux | i'll see |
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| 20:53.10 | evilsporkman | the "reading database" portion of apt-get install seems to be slow lately. anything I can do to speed it up? I'm running lenny. |
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| 20:54.51 | otwieracz | jhutchins_wk: what livecd you propose to remaster? |
| 20:55.18 | adb | evilsporkman: is slow because of to many packages has been installed , so is normal |
| 20:55.51 | evilsporkman | adb: happen to know where the code for this "reading database" step is? |
| 20:56.19 | otwieracz | i need to add my own kernel, confgure iptables and add some stuff |
| 20:56.26 | superlinux | stew, i think i have open-ntpd |
| 20:56.42 | adb | on the computer ... somewhere |
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| 20:57.06 | superlinux | and the manual of ntpd.conf has no mentioning of iburst |
| 20:57.52 | stew | superlinux: ok, i dont' know then |
| 20:58.01 | superlinux | ok bro |
| 20:58.04 | adb | in /var/lib/dpkg , i guess only |
| 20:58.13 | superlinux | i'll check online 10x anyway |
| 20:58.20 | otwieracz | hey? |
| 20:59.04 | otwieracz | jhutchins_wk? |
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| 21:00.32 | Neo_The_User | im gunna put coreboot on my computer now that i got a kernel under 2 MB |
| 21:01.21 | Neo_The_User | would coreboot be in the repositories for debian? |
| 21:01.21 | binarymutant | ? |
| 21:01.24 | otwieracz | nice |
| 21:01.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | Illusion, sent mails need not necessarily go through the local mail system - a connection to port 25 of the remote host will do - so maybe your mailer is skipping your local mail(?) |
| 21:01.35 | binarymutant | how can I get a kernel under 2MB? |
| 21:02.06 | Neo_The_User | turn off everything in the kernel config that is not critical. |
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| 21:02.46 | adb | stock debian kernel are ~ 1,5 MB |
| 21:03.09 | binarymutant | just the binary? |
| 21:03.18 | adb | yes |
| 21:03.22 | Neo_The_User | not the deb. the binary |
| 21:03.30 | binarymutant | O |
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| 21:04.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | 1.3M /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18-4-k7 |
| 21:04.19 | Neo_The_User | well... im going for about... 3 hours to a day. i'll catch you all later (in my basket) |
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| 21:04.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | actually |
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| 21:04.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | 849K /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.20 |
| 21:04.53 | Neo_The_User | Ron, the founder of coreboot, got his kernel under 700 K |
| 21:05.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | but I'd personally hate to go back to a 2.4 kernel |
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| 21:05.17 | Neo_The_User | CutMeOwnThroat, thats not the binary |
| 21:05.47 | Neo_The_User | binary is in arch x86 |
| 21:05.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | ? |
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| 21:06.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | this is what I'd call "the kernel" it's what's loaded at boot time and does all the fancy stuff of recognizing the hardware |
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| 21:06.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | afaik |
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| 21:07.15 | Neo_The_User | im talking about the kernel's binary file (the actual file) not the kernel itself |
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| 21:09.15 | Neo_The_User | debhelper, what are you doing? |
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| 21:09.30 | evilsporkman | what package has source for apt-get? I tried the apt package, but it doesn't contain the string "Reading database" anywhere |
| 21:09.50 | Neo_The_User | the source code for aptitude? |
| 21:10.31 | stew | evilsporkman: the source code for apt-get is in the apt source package |
| 21:10.50 | evilsporkman | stew: then where does that "Reading database" message come from? the string is nowhere in that package |
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| 21:11.17 | _2 | can the etch install cd boot/run with only 32m ram ? |
| 21:11.38 | Guy_From_Crowd | 32mb ram? jeeze. i got 8GB |
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| 21:11.54 | acidslep | no you need 64 dont ye |
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| 21:12.11 | binarymutant | evilsporkman, you went through the entire source looking for a string? |
| 21:12.17 | Guy_From_Crowd | lol |
| 21:12.20 | evilsporkman | binarymutant: grep -Ri "Reading database" * |
| 21:12.28 | _2 | acidslep that's why i'm asking. |
| 21:12.31 | Guy_From_Crowd | what comes after that? |
| 21:12.39 | acidslep | 31 is not enough |
| 21:12.41 | evilsporkman | turns out it's dpkg |
| 21:12.55 | Guy_From_Crowd | dpkg? the bot? !dpkg |
| 21:13.42 | Guy_From_Crowd | !bye. bye everybody |
| 21:13.45 | binarymutant | thats cool I have to remember that |
| 21:14.05 | evilsporkman | heh, dpkg has an error function called "ohshite" |
| 21:14.07 | _2 | acidslep so i'll need to look into something like slackware for an older installer/version that will install in 32m or does debian have an archive of outdated soft ? |
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| 21:14.34 | stew | _2: the etch installer should work with 32mb ram |
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| 21:14.50 | evilsporkman | not to be confused with "ohshit", which it also has. |
| 21:14.51 | _2 | stew from CD ? |
| 21:15.04 | stew | _2: actually, wait, sarge needed 38, etch might want 48 |
| 21:15.17 | stew | _2: though i believe there is a way to run it with less, but it takes a long time |
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| 21:15.30 | _2 | time i have. |
| 21:16.44 | stew | _2: i seem to recall d-i having a 'low memory mode' but i'm not seeing documentation on it |
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| 21:16.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | evilsporkman, lemme guess, and the two do radically different things? |
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| 21:17.02 | zleap | hi |
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| 21:17.13 | binarymutant | hiya zleap |
| 21:17.29 | evilsporkman | CutMeOwnThroat: they look like different levels of error |
| 21:17.30 | zleap | anyone using kde under lenny |
| 21:17.34 | Tapout | if I source compiled mysql, how to I prevent apt from ever installing mysql-server? |
| 21:17.37 | evilsporkman | zleap: yes. |
| 21:17.45 | zleap | cool |
| 21:17.49 | stew | Tapout: /msg dpkg equivs |
| 21:17.55 | betz_ | Hi, can someone tell me how to know my intern ip-address somewhere? |
| 21:17.59 | zleap | if I use alt-l to lock the session its not letting me log back in again |
| 21:18.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | betz_, /sbin/ifconfig |
| 21:18.14 | stew | betz_: '/sbin/ifconfig' or "ip a" will list your ip addresses |
| 21:18.24 | betz_ | ok, thanx |
| 21:18.29 | _2 | stew i looked through the help on the boot screen too. not seeing it either. i'll do some more hunting, thanks. |
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| 21:18.48 | zleap | just wondered if anyone else has noticed that |
| 21:18.54 | binarymutant | evilsporkman, how fast did you grep dpkg? mine pc is crawling trying to grep it |
| 21:19.03 | evilsporkman | binarymutant: in the apt source, seconds |
| 21:19.06 | stew | _2: if you could put the hard drive into another box to do the install, it would be much quicker than trying to force the install to run on the low memory machine |
| 21:19.18 | stew | _2: debian doesn't need as much memory to run as the installer needs to install |
| 21:19.26 | zleap | factors - using bsod screensaver, annd also downloading with wget -c under yakuake |
| 21:19.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | zleap, btw, there's also a #debian-kde |
| 21:19.38 | evilsporkman | I bet we could issue I/O prefetches or something to speed up dpkg's Reading database step |
| 21:19.40 | zleap | ah |
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| 21:19.51 | evilsporkman | but I really haven't the time to do the necessary experiments |
| 21:19.52 | binarymutant | lots of oshites |
| 21:19.55 | zleap | i will try there |
| 21:20.26 | binarymutant | lol it tells you the error thats funny |
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| 21:21.14 | binarymutant | there should be a website with all this misc. info in it |
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| 21:21.41 | _2 | stew yeah if i don't find something pretty quick, i'll probably do something along that line. maybe even clone an existing install. that works pretty well for me. |
| 21:21.54 | Tapout | thanks stwe |
| 21:21.57 | Tapout | stww |
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| 21:22.55 | _2 | cuts down on configuration time. :) |
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| 21:23.14 | evilsporkman | looks like posix_fadvise(2) with POSIX_FADV_WILLNEED on the next few files to read might fit the bill, if anyone has copious free time on his hands |
| 21:23.17 | NTU | hey guys its me neo_the_user |
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| 21:23.48 | NTU | specifically, how do i play an mp3 with madplay or some command line mp3 player? |
| 21:24.11 | binarymutant | NTU, mocp is good |
| 21:24.29 | NTU | ok. how do i play a song in mocp? can you give me an example? |
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| 21:25.03 | binarymutant | NTU, first sudo apt-get install moc |
| 21:25.20 | binarymutant | NTU, it's like text gui, you just select the song and hit enter |
| 21:25.49 | NTU | i typed in moc in command line. command not found |
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| 21:26.07 | _2 | i like sox for that. play filename |
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| 21:26.13 | binarymutant | NTU, the packages name is moc but the actual program is called mocp |
| 21:26.19 | evilsporkman | I would recommend mpg321 isntead |
| 21:26.24 | binarymutant | NTU, tab completion is my best friend |
| 21:26.25 | NTU | ohhhhh |
| 21:26.25 | evilsporkman | and then just mpg321 song.mp3 |
| 21:26.30 | NTU | thanks binary |
| 21:26.50 | NTU | whats better? mpg321 or mocp? |
| 21:27.05 | binarymutant | whats better vanilla or chocolate? |
| 21:27.14 | _2 | strawberry |
| 21:27.16 | NTU | well what are the differences? |
| 21:27.19 | binarymutant | then mocp |
| 21:27.20 | binarymutant | :) |
| 21:27.24 | _2 | :) |
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| 21:27.48 | NTU | _2, your funny |
| 21:28.06 | NTU | how do you add people to your friends list on IRC? |
| 21:28.13 | amphi_ | NTU: moc has an ncurses interface as opposed to just a command line |
| 21:28.23 | NTU | oh |
| 21:28.30 | NTU | thanks amphi_ |
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| 21:28.44 | evilsporkman | it also has a really unfortunate name |
| 21:28.45 | LimCore | hi |
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| 21:28.58 | LimCore | 23 Oct 21:31:16 ntpdate[31920]: step-systime: Operation not permitted any idae why I can not change system time (I'm root)? This is some hosting |
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| 21:29.01 | NTU | what unfortunate name is that? |
| 21:29.11 | NTU | HI LimCore!! |
| 21:29.17 | evilsporkman | moc is the preprocessor for Qt (KDE's UI toolkit) |
| 21:29.49 | binarymutant | lol |
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| 21:29.58 | NTU | im going to play SOCOM Confrontation. i'll catch you all later. (in my basket.) |
| 21:30.57 | LimCore | lspci also doesnt work |
| 21:31.07 | NTU | lspci.... ahhh |
| 21:31.10 | LimCore | could this be some virtualisation? |
| 21:31.17 | NTU | yes. |
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| 21:31.40 | evilsporkman | I wonder if it's Xen |
| 21:31.51 | NTU | im goin. bye all |
| 21:31.53 | NTU | !bye |
| 21:31.53 | dpkg | Cya, ntu |
| 21:32.17 | LimCore | damn.. |
| 21:32.19 | evilsporkman | I'm surprised you can't run lspci or set the time in your VM |
| 21:32.22 | evilsporkman | that sounds really inconvenient |
| 21:32.36 | LimCore | this is some server hosring company |
| 21:32.38 | LimCore | perhaps for security |
| 21:32.48 | LimCore | well I will ask them to at least run ntpd on the host machine then =) |
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| 21:35.25 | _2 | on second thought, maybe i don't want to make a router out of the box. the psu just went down hard. |
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| 21:37.40 | _2 | oh well a p2 is not exactly a gold mine, not even a silicon mine anymore... ;/ |
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| 21:41.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | duh, seems flpsed only works with gs-esp and no other gs |
| 21:41.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | any idea as to why |
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| 21:42.11 | pobega | How do I regenerate my initramfs? |
| 21:42.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | and package dependencies don't reflect that, they just demand ghostscript > something |
| 21:42.16 | Zambezi | stew: It didn't go so well. None installation (tried with two other) could boot with LUKS, but it atleast started so now I'm on a fresh installation and I'm installing all I need. Tomorrow I'll try to decrypt the old system harddrive. |
| 21:42.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | should I file a bugreport on that? |
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| 21:43.00 | _2 | pobega mkinitramfs -o output.file version |
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| 21:43.10 | n3kl | LimCore: what kind of vm host? |
| 21:43.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | pobega, update-initramfs? |
| 21:44.28 | LimCore | n3kl: I dunno |
| 21:46.06 | n3kl | Oh, you don't own it? |
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| 21:49.00 | pobega | Ever since dmsetup updated my initramfs my wireless hasn't been working right...If I remove the dmsetup/initramfs and do update-initramfs -c, do you think I'l possibly have working wireless again? |
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| 21:51.04 | pobega | Nope. Just awesome. |
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| 21:53.29 | trumpen | is that possible to update my mb bios within debian? Maybe with dosbox or something similar? |
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| 21:54.21 | pappanz | hello. does ndiswrapper need network-manager et similia to get information about the connection (encryption, ssid,...) or can it get them from interfaces file? |
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| 21:57.18 | bolt_ | I have a problem... I want to switch from IDE to AHCI mode for SATA drives in BIOS, but that results in my two IDE drives being invisible. My sata drives work faster than before. Does AHCI mean IDE isn't available at all? |
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| 21:58.18 | asdzxc | hi |
| 21:58.21 | zleap | ewet: no idea |
| 21:58.29 | asdzxc | my logrotate is rotating Apache logs at 6:00 |
| 21:58.30 | zleap | hi |
| 21:58.32 | asdzxc | how can i change this ? |
| 21:58.44 | asdzxc | i want to rotate them at 00:00 |
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| 21:59.12 | unop | bolt_, http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Advanced+Host+Controller+Interface |
| 21:59.25 | zleap | man logrotate |
| 21:59.39 | asdzxc | zleap haha |
| 21:59.49 | asdzxc | zleap it's somehow run by cron |
| 21:59.58 | zleap | yeah |
| 22:00.02 | asdzxc | but i don't know where it's configured |
| 22:00.11 | zleap | so you need to look at the cron config file i guess |
| 22:00.18 | asdzxc | zleap which ? |
| 22:00.36 | asdzxc | zleap i see you absolutetly doesn't know what are you talking about |
| 22:00.44 | asdzxc | or if you really know, just tell it |
| 22:00.47 | Tramp | asdzxc: it may be delegated to anacron. Check /etc/crontab and /etc/anacrontab (for an entry which refers to cron.daily) |
| 22:00.58 | asdzxc | Tramp thnx, i will check that |
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| 22:01.20 | zleap | i don't i am just guessing and trying to point you in the right direction while reading man pages a the same time |
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| 22:02.15 | asdzxc | Tramp it's really there, thnx |
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| 22:03.16 | JW | I'm sick of the default adduser that asks me for the person's name and phone and all that stuff - s there a better non-interactive way to add a user?!? |
| 22:03.31 | pobega | JW: useradd? |
| 22:03.39 | stew | not useradd |
| 22:03.40 | bolt_ | unop: what's useful there? |
| 22:04.00 | JW | pobega: I don't think so, last I checked it was essentially the same - I'll look again |
| 22:04.06 | stew | JW: you can specify all that stuff on the command line so that it doens't prompt you |
| 22:04.21 | JW | stew: well if I can, I don't see how to do that in the man page :-( |
| 22:04.26 | stew | JW: useradd is not the same. useradd is what is called by adduser to actually add the /etc/passwd entry |
| 22:04.33 | stew | JW: seriously? |
| 22:04.44 | stew | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:04.49 | stew | ... |
| 22:04.54 | unop | bolt_, it says something about AHCI providing support for things PATA devices don't provide. |
| 22:05.02 | pappanz | i mean. now ndiswrapper module loads at startup but I cannot get any connection. my wpa settings are listed in /etc/network/interfaces. is there something wrong? |
| 22:05.11 | bolt_ | unop: ..which is what I want |
| 22:05.22 | bolt_ | unop: but it says nothing about ide not being available when ahci is on |
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| 22:05.34 | bolt_ | unop: which is my problem |
| 22:05.37 | JW | stew: seriously! I said the name, office, phone number and /that/ garbage, not the home, shell and other *real* information. |
| 22:06.03 | Zambezi | Anyone with Lenny installed on encrypted LVM who can give me the menu.lst for one kernel? Preferable the latest so I can access my files cause Ubuntu overwrote it without notice. |
| 22:06.04 | unop | bolt_, it looks to me you can't have it both ways - PATA/IDE and ACHI don't seem to go hand in hand |
| 22:06.04 | JW | name as in "Full name" |
| 22:06.35 | stew | oh, hmm |
| 22:07.00 | JW | stew: ah , wait - it looks like --quiet makes it stop askign for that stuff |
| 22:08.05 | JW | stew: no n/m it's still asking :-( |
| 22:08.14 | JW | it needs a --shutup option |
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| 22:08.37 | stew | JW: hmm, i guess maybe adduser is the solution then, but you'll have to create the home directory and copy /etc/skel yourself |
| 22:08.46 | stew | err useradd not adduser |
| 22:08.48 | bolt_ | unop: hm.. it would seem you are right. even the bios doesn't see ide with ahci enabled :/ |
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| 22:09.06 | bolt_ | unop: oh well. thanks for the info. saves me spending hours on coming to this appaling fact :( |
| 22:09.21 | _2 | jw useradd |
| 22:09.38 | JW | ok let me look at useradd again |
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| 22:09.55 | stew | JW: and maybe groupadd |
| 22:10.21 | _2 | finds useradd easier to deal with than adduser |
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| 22:11.18 | _2 | but adduser is a perl script and useradd is an elf so go figure. |
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| 22:11.22 | hellues | !paste |
| 22:11.22 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! |
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| 22:15.35 | JW | useradd is starting to look ok for what I need, I"m about to find out . . . |
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| 22:17.12 | JW | p, --password PASSWORD The encrypted password, as returned by crypt(3) |
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| 22:17.21 | JW | there's no crypt anymore - it's mcrypt now. |
| 22:17.24 | JW | How do I get that hash? |
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| 22:18.01 | stew | JW: mkpasswd -H md5 |
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| 22:20.52 | JW | stew: You Da Man! |
| 22:21.00 | JW | I wish I'd tried this a long time ago! |
| 22:21.13 | abrotman | !tell hellues about msg the bot |
| 22:22.14 | _2 | should /etc/profile source /etc/bash.bashrc ? |
| 22:23.11 | _2 | generally speaking of course. as will bash naturally source /etc/bash.bashrc without profile telling it to ? |
| 22:23.32 | abrotman | what if you don't use bash for your shell? |
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| 22:25.33 | _2 | never mind. looks like bash hashs /etc/bash.bashrc by default. |
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| 22:26.26 | beardy | http://release.debian.org/stable/4.0/4.0r5/ (nice that it doesn't work..) but, topic it. |
| 22:26.48 | hellues | url not found |
| 22:27.09 | beardy | What I said. |
| 22:27.15 | _2 | ok maybe i have it backwards ? should /etc/bash.bashrc source /etc/profile ? |
| 22:27.17 | esaym | how do I make accent marks over letters with a us keyboard (trying to learn spanish here...) |
| 22:27.25 | abrotman | beardy: how did you get to it? |
| 22:27.49 | abrotman | nevermind .. i see it |
| 22:27.51 | beardy | abrotman: I didn't, but check the announce mail.. or |
| 22:28.26 | abrotman | beardy: or debian.org ? |
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| 22:29.29 | beardy | abrotman: Probably yes. But if they're as good with teh interwebs there.. |
| 22:29.39 | unsolo | im trying to get imap extensions on php4 but they keep reporting as missing |
| 22:29.41 | unsolo | any ideas ? |
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| 22:30.03 | *** topic/#debian by abrotman -> 4.0r5 released /msg dpkg etch | /msg dpkg etch->lenny | PUBLIC KEY NOT AVAILABLE? /msg dpkg no public key | FAQ: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianIRC | NO FLOOD: USE #flood or /msg dpkg paster | /msg bots NOT people | offtopic: #debian-offtopic |
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| 22:30.39 | beardy | The point is, I won. |
| 22:30.49 | abrotman | What did you win? |
| 22:30.55 | beardy | I don't know yet. |
| 22:30.58 | beardy | !win me |
| 22:30.58 | dpkg | Congratulations, beardy! You have won second prize in a beauty contest! |
| 22:30.59 | _2 | url was typo ? 'http://release.debian.org/stable/4.0/4.0r4' maybe ? |
| 22:31.00 | oklinux | windows xp |
| 22:31.00 | abrotman | !prize beardy |
| 22:31.00 | dpkg | gives beardy a yogi pin. |
| 22:31.06 | beardy | Woho! |
| 22:31.08 | abrotman | _2: no .. |
| 22:31.13 | abrotman | !tell _2 about 4.0r5 |
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| 22:32.15 | _2 | there doesn't seem to be a 4.0r5 dir there |
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| 22:32.50 | beardy | _2: No, we came to that conclusion, but it will probably be fixed in the nearest hours. |
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| 22:34.32 | _2 | guess that will teach me to try to do too many things at one time, and get behind, and open my big mouth; now wont it |
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| 22:37.21 | ewet | hmm - so you tell me i read d-a but still don't know about it? *scratches-his-head* |
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| 22:39.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | but /etc/debian_version keeps showing "4.0" on 4.0r5 or will that depend on the install disks you used? |
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| 22:40.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, /etc/debian_version is part of base-files... so I guess it stays on |
| 22:40.45 | ewet | ahhh now... |
| 22:41.44 | oklinux | I have an error usb 1-1: device not accepting address 2, error -71 |
| 22:42.05 | abrotman | CutMeOwnThroat: always shows 4.0 |
| 22:42.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | ok |
| 22:42.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | abrotman, even if you're running testing? |
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| 22:44.13 | abrotman | no |
| 22:48.50 | _2 | hmmm my /etc/bash.bashrc and ~/.bashrc are not being read. any clue as to why ? |
| 22:49.08 | Gm4n | interactive vs noninteractive login? |
| 22:49.19 | _2 | my /etc/profile and ~/.profile are. |
| 22:49.23 | _2 | login shell |
| 22:49.33 | _2 | login console shell |
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| 22:51.55 | abrotman | _2: is your shell bash? this is a terminal? |
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| 22:53.25 | Tramp | _2: as man bash says. The bashrcs are not read for login shells. That's why usually .bashrc is sourced by .bash_profile |
| 22:53.56 | ewet | this login shell thing is still a source of confusion to me |
| 22:54.02 | _2 | Tramp yes /bin/bash |
| 22:54.19 | Tramp | _2: ? I didn't ask a question |
| 22:54.26 | abrotman | i did! |
| 22:54.34 | Tramp | oh - sorry. |
| 22:54.39 | _2 | yeah i pulled the wrong nick |
| 22:54.45 | _2 | sorry |
| 22:55.46 | oklinux | any one can advise on how to fix this ? usb 1-1: device not accepting address 2, error -71 |
| 22:55.51 | _2 | Tramp my bash manpage says that /etc/bash.bashrc is the default for login shells |
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| 22:57.02 | NinjaMan | oklinux - what device are you trying to connect? |
| 22:58.06 | Tramp | _2: then you have a weird manpage. "When an interactive shell that is not a login shell is started, bash reads and executes commands from /etc/bash.bashrc and ~/.bashrc" is, what mine says |
| 22:58.07 | _2 | Tramp ah i hadn't read far enough. thanks |
| 22:58.55 | _2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:58.56 | _2 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:59.02 | _2 | found it. |
| 22:59.03 | oklinux | all I have connect to it is usb printer hp laserjet 1018 |
| 22:59.33 | oklinux | running hplip 2.8.9 |
| 22:59.33 | _2 | so i'll have to either source the rc files or put the data in there. |
| 23:00.06 | NinjaMan | oklinux: do you have the kernel configured with the correct usb protocol? (there are about 4-5 different types) |
| 23:00.41 | NinjaMan | oklinux: OHCI and UHCI are the most common usb 1.1 variants I think |
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| 23:01.01 | oklinux | no I have not configured the kernel |
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| 23:02.23 | NinjaMan | oklinux - do lsmod and see which usb drivers are loaded |
| 23:03.09 | NinjaMan | oklinux: if ehci is loaded too then that is for usb 2 - unload (using rmmod) it and see if the problem continues |
| 23:03.24 | NinjaMan | oklinux: do you have a usb2 or a usb1.1 system? |
| 23:03.32 | oklinux | usbcore 127724 4 usblp,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd |
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| 23:04.13 | pottytheshitter | whens debian 5 going to be released? |
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| 23:05.26 | NinjaMan | oklinux: use 'rmmod ehci_hcd' |
| 23:06.31 | dudeman | oklinux, I'm here now |
| 23:06.38 | dudeman | but I'm about to eat dinner so I'm really not here |
| 23:06.43 | dudeman | but I will be here in the future |
| 23:06.49 | NinjaMan | oklinux: btw if you put my username in your reply, my irc client will alert me - that way I don't have to be looking at my irc window all of the time waiting for your reply.... |
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| 23:07.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | pottytheshitter, "/msg dpkg WIR" also RSN and SIYH |
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| 23:09.38 | Delicates | Anyone knows how to stop the resolver from querying AAAA records first? |
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| 23:11.18 | stdisease | Delicates: idk, modify glibc? |
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| 23:12.46 | Delicates | the query is done by _nss_dns_gethostbyname3_r() |
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| 23:14.57 | jonwalker | Help ive installed ATI drivers, but my image is 640x480 yet |
| 23:15.10 | pappanz | hello. I have installed ndiswrapper module in the debian-wiki way (http://wiki.debian.org/NdisWrapper) how can I uninstall it? |
| 23:15.36 | meyou | try apt-get remove ndiswrapper? |
| 23:16.01 | meyou | or |
| 23:16.05 | meyou | try apt-get remove ndiswrapper-common |
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| 23:16.56 | jonwalker | how to remove ATI drivers? |
| 23:17.03 | pappanz | meyou: yes, but I installed a module through module-assistant after compiling sources. |
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| 23:18.00 | PeterFA | I just found out I don't exist. |
| 23:18.14 | stdisease | jonwalker: if by remove it you mean making x11 not use then just an edit to your xorg.conf is enough |
| 23:18.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | pappanz, but afaik m-a makes a package in which it puts the module and you can remove that like any other package |
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| 23:18.25 | stdisease | *not use it |
| 23:18.43 | jonwalker | stdisease: do you have any guide how to install ati drivers? |
| 23:18.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | PeterFA, we knew that all along, that's why we've been ignoring you (except me, but I'm a weirdo) |
| 23:19.08 | PeterFA | CutMeOwnThroat, thanks. |
| 23:19.13 | pappanz | CutMeOwnThroat: that's fine. so I need to uninstall the package m-a installed at the end with that dpkg -iE ... |
| 23:19.20 | PeterFA | CutMeOwnThroat, life is hard when you don't exist. No job, no life, nothing. |
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| 23:19.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | PeterFA, actually sounds quite good |
| 23:19.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | life sucks... job sucks... |
| 23:20.01 | PeterFA | Therefor, life == job? |
| 23:20.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | I eat, therefore I am |
| 23:20.24 | stdisease | jonwalker: sure, download the installer (around 60MB) from ati's website, make sure you have kernels source/headers installed, as root, run the installer, follow instructions |
| 23:20.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | pappanz, dpkg -r normally - or apt-get remove package (which will take care of dependencies while dpkg will not) |
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| 23:20.50 | stdisease | then edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to use the 'fglrx' driver |
| 23:20.56 | stdisease | then (re)start X11 |
| 23:21.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | pappanz, dpkg -i installs ... you wanted to remove, didn't you? |
| 23:21.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | pappanz, I recommend "man dpkg" :) |
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| 23:21.59 | PhrkOnLsh | hi folks, I am trying to get a few kernel modules to load on boot (specifically rtl8180 and visor modules) and even after I add the two to /etc/modules the loading does not occur. Is there any way to verify if /etc/modules is working or not? |
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| 23:22.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | !tell PeterFA -about "the meaning of life" |
| 23:22.30 | pappanz | CutMeOwnThroat: yep. my question is: with aptitude search ndiswrapper I see ndiswrapper-modules-... however I cannot understand if it was installed from repositories or from my computer with m-a |
| 23:22.36 | PhrkOnLsh | PeterFA: you need to learn :) I love you. |
| 23:22.53 | NinjaMan | oklinux: are u still alive? |
| 23:23.42 | stdisease | Delicates: the answer probably likes in glibc/resolv/gethnamaddr.c, in getanswer() |
| 23:23.52 | Nai | I have installed a font in /usr/share/fonts/truetype/Olympus which shows in gimp as Olympus and Olympus Bold, however it does not work with my Blackbox theme (specified as -*-Olympus-medium-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*) |
| 23:24.13 | stdisease | if there is a better way however to acheive the same result without modifying libc, I'm not aware of it |
| 23:25.31 | pappanz | CutMeOwnThroat: however I have seen my /var/log/aptitude log and I didn't installed from repos anything with that name, so I can uninstall with aptitude safely! :) |
| 23:25.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | pappanz, some things are meant to remain a mystery ;) - for that you can check two things - one, if the package is in the repository in that version by searching the package database at debian.org or, look at where you made the package using m-a (I *think* /usr/src) m-a leaves the file with the package lying around there, afair) |
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| 23:26.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | pappanz, anyways, if you want to remove it - does it matter if it's from the repository or your efforts? |
| 23:26.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | pappanz, check the content with dpkt -L package |
| 23:26.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | s/dpkt/dpkg/ |
| 23:26.54 | pappanz | CutMeOwnThroat: :) I was in doubt if there were 2 different packages installed |
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| 23:28.23 | PhrkOnLsh | CutMeOwnThroat: dpkg is smart like that :) if it's the same package name it'll upgrade it, not install twice :) |
| 23:28.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | pappanz, if you look at the packages with apt-cache show package or dpkg -s package, you should see ... they would probably conflict or depend on each other - if it's the same package name it's considered an upgrade//downgrade so you can't have two either |
| 23:29.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | PhrkOnLsh, don't tell me, I know :) |
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| 23:29.24 | pappanz | CutMeOwnThroat: ah ok! now I feel lighter! |
| 23:29.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | kinda unwrapped, eh? |
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| 23:29.46 | pappanz | yessssss |
| 23:30.37 | arturh | Hi! How do i get the source for all the packages in my system? |
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| 23:31.16 | kmeyer | arturh: magic |
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| 23:31.51 | PhrkOnLsh | CutMeOwnThroat: :O SORRY |
| 23:31.56 | PhrkOnLsh | and capslock... wow |
| 23:32.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | PhrkOnLsh, making friends like no tomorrow, eh? |
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| 23:32.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | !lameometer PhrkOnLsh |
| 23:32.30 | dpkg | 'PhrkOnLsh' is 8.000% lame, cutmeownthroat |
| 23:32.31 | PhrkOnLsh | oh yeah |
| 23:32.34 | PhrkOnLsh | \o/ |
| 23:32.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | is disappointed |
| 23:32.49 | PhrkOnLsh | CutMeOwnThroat: if I was in here more, it'd be higher |
| 23:33.00 | procrastination | so im having trouble connecting to network on boot...i have to unplug ethernet and plug it back in once it starts to get it working...any ideas? |
| 23:33.03 | stdisease | lol, lameometer |
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| 23:33.22 | NinjaMan | is it possible to produce a single SSL certificate (for apache / lighttpd) that is valid for multiple addresses - e.g. localhost and my FQDN ? |
| 23:34.18 | Zambezi | Running encrypted LVM on Etch netinst then you get ext3 right? |
| 23:34.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | PhrkOnLsh, no, it just looks at the string of the nick and penaltizes some stuff ... see |
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| 23:34.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | !lameometer ~!24FuckFuckFuckXXXXXXXXXXXx |
| 23:34.25 | dpkg | '~!24FuckFuckFuckXXXXXXXXXXXx' is 99.9433% lame, cutmeownthroat |
| 23:34.32 | PhrkOnLsh | Oh :) |
| 23:34.44 | PhrkOnLsh | Nice nick :) |
| 23:34.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | wanna change? |
| 23:35.14 | PhrkOnLsh | 01:35 [freenode] -pand!- Erroneous Nickname |
| 23:35.18 | PhrkOnLsh | :( |
| 23:35.24 | PhrkOnLsh | ok, /etc/modules sucks. |
| 23:35.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | NinjaMan, I wouldn't think so, the hostname is part of the certificate, now isn't it? |
| 23:36.05 | procrastination | are debian respitory servers generally fast? |
| 23:36.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | procrastination, yes... several ones :-P |
| 23:36.16 | NinjaMan | CutMeOwnThroat: yes it is - if that's not possible can you install multiple certificates on a web server? |
| 23:36.19 | PhrkOnLsh | why do you need ssl for localhost? |
| 23:36.24 | abrotman | procrastination: varies |
| 23:36.54 | procrastination | well i have a 10mbit connection and im downloading at under 12kB/s...somethings gotta be up |
| 23:37.08 | NinjaMan | PhrkOnLsh: I don't but it saves me creating and maintaining a separate non-ssl instance just for localhost access |
| 23:37.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | NinjaMan, hm, I guess you must be able to do that - else (assuming FQDN is part of the certificate) how could you have virtual hosts... |
| 23:37.18 | abrotman | procrastination: which mirror? |
| 23:37.39 | procrastination | i dont know...whatever was in my sources.list by default...should i check |
| 23:37.42 | procrastination | us |
| 23:37.52 | abrotman | /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 23:38.35 | NinjaMan | CutMeOwnThroat: my concern is that it will be 2 SSL certificates for the same virtual host |
| 23:38.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | procrastination, oh, that's different - I thought you just had allow-hotplug in /etc/network/interfaces, but no auto stanza... that might sometimes fail to bring it up at boot |
| 23:38.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | NinjaMan, just add another virtual host, they're for free! |
| 23:39.01 | procrastination | deb-src http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib non-free |
| 23:39.02 | procrastination | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free |
| 23:39.02 | procrastination | deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free |
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| 23:39.44 | procrastination | cutMeOwnThroat...i havent configured anything for network..can you help me get it to detect network on start |
| 23:39.54 | abrotman | procrastination: FWIW .. i never use the ftp.us.debian.org mirrors .. |
| 23:40.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | procrastination, about mirrors, perhaps /msg dpkg apt-spy |
| 23:40.14 | Delicates | stdisease: You lied, the answer was in gethostbyname(), though it didn't tell me anything new, just confirmed what I knew. |
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| 23:40.49 | procrastination | i notice when it goes through the start thing it hangs for a bit trying to lease dhcp or something...it tries 6 times for eth0 and eth1...then it cant connect to it so it gives up..then when it starts i just unplug it from ethernet and plug it back in to opposite eth and it works fine |
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| 23:41.10 | Delicates | stdisease: I just confirmed the culprit as RES_USE_INET6 through the source code, but where the hell it is set I still don't know |
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| 23:42.07 | stdisease | Delicates: im not familiar with the networking part, but gethostbyname() does call the function I mentioned |
| 23:42.47 | rodhash | Hi there, please, does anyone here know the command cpufreq-selector ?? If yes, is there any problem to set my AMD Turion 64 to -> cpufreq-selector -c 2 ?? is it correct ?? |
| 23:42.48 | Delicates | stdisease: yes it does, but the decision of whether to use AAAA or A queries is done in gethostbyname() |
| 23:42.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | procrastination, sounds weird... perhaps some kernel module needed for networking is not loaded yet ... and also no udev to get it automagically at that point in the boot process(?)... not sure about the boot order there |
| 23:43.10 | stdisease | Delicates: ah |
| 23:43.22 | procrastination | fresh install of debian amd64 if i must add |
| 23:43.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | procrastination, check dmesg output |
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| 23:44.19 | rodhash | Does anyone here know the command cpufreq-selector ?? |
| 23:44.30 | dondelelcaro | rodhash: you mean cpufreq-set ? |
| 23:44.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | procrastination, perhaps it helps to add the network kernel-module to /etc/modules ... you could try that, it can hardly hurt |
| 23:45.12 | rodhash | it's cpufreq-selector |
| 23:45.19 | procrastination | i downloading at 2 kb now |
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| 23:45.43 | Delicates | stdisease: still it allows for setting _res.options like RES_USE_INET6 with "options" line in resolv.conf, but how the hell do you unset RES_USE_INET6? |
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| 23:46.04 | hareth | hey |
| 23:46.47 | hareth | i have some prob with my apache server :( he keep saying "Forcing reload of web server (apache2)...httpd (no pid file) not running" |
| 23:46.59 | hareth | someone have already encounter the problem ? |
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| 23:47.03 | abrotman | procrastination: so choose another mirror |
| 23:47.27 | abrotman | procrastination: where is your rough geographic location ? |
| 23:47.32 | NinjaMan | CutMeOwnThroat: is there anyway for to virtualhosts to share common configuration elements? |
| 23:47.42 | Nai | I have installed a font in /usr/share/fonts/truetype/Olympus which shows in gimp as Olympus and Olympus Bold, however it does not work with my Blackbox theme (specified as -*-Olympus-medium-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*) |
| 23:47.54 | procrastination | united states, west coast |
| 23:47.58 | dondelelcaro | rodhash: for doing what? it's cpufreq-set for setting anything to do with cpu frequencies. |
| 23:48.05 | dondelelcaro | rodhash: and please don't /msg me |
| 23:48.29 | procrastination | im doing mirrors mirrors on the wall right now |
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| 23:48.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | NinjaMan, yes, I think so - everything you don't configure within the virtualhost stanza is shared - but you might better ask #apache, I'm a bit rusty on that (and really all I know predates apache2 by a couple of years) |
| 23:49.27 | procrastination | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:49.30 | NinjaMan | CutMeOwnThroat: Thanks |
| 23:49.41 | procrastination | what do i type in for north america...i guess i dont understand the syntax |
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| 23:50.51 | procrastination | nm |
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| 23:52.48 | procrastination | im getting slow speeds from all my mirrors...my internet must be messed up...i blame my pos cable modem |
| 23:53.41 | dudeman | hello people of the #debian whats up! |
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| 23:54.15 | dudeman | maybe -a North-America ? |
| 23:54.28 | procrastination | ya lol got it sorry |
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| 23:57.13 | _2 | anyone know why a manufacture would put a choke on an ide cable ? |
| 23:57.31 | meyou | choke? |
| 23:57.35 | Delicates | How do you unset _res.options (RES_USE_INET6 in particular)? |
| 23:57.40 | meyou | like on my lawnmower? |
| 23:58.13 | _2 | meyou no. like on your internal speaker wires |
| 23:58.27 | _2 | or power button wires maybe |
| 23:58.48 | CompWizrd | that's a bit odd, yeah |
| 23:58.54 | CompWizrd | i've seen it though |
| 23:58.55 | dudeman | what |
| 23:58.55 | CompWizrd | on OEM's |
| 23:59.00 | dudeman | you got a picture?? |
| 23:59.03 | CompWizrd | ferrite core |
| 23:59.06 | CompWizrd | like what you see on VGA monitors |
| 23:59.13 | dudeman | what is a choke? |
| 23:59.18 | themill | _2: noisy environment |
| 23:59.19 | dudeman | like a round little ball before the plug? |
| 23:59.58 | _2 | themill i guess. but not sure which end of the cable they are trying to protect.. |
| 23:59.59 | ameyer | more like a cylinder with a hole through the middle |
