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| 00:16.50 | funky_ | how can I ask to the bot ? |
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| 00:18.04 | dsmelk | funky_: why do you do that? |
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| 00:18.36 | funky_ | dsmelk: I don't want to bother anyone, it probably could answer my question |
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| 00:19.02 | funky_ | it's about having java support on debian@amd64 |
| 00:19.17 | funky_ | I bet it's a quite common question here |
| 00:19.29 | dsmelk | funky_: repeat the question |
| 00:20.00 | dsmelk | funky_: do you want to run java on amd64? |
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| 00:21.16 | funky_ | dsmelk: what I want is to have java support on my browser |
| 00:21.45 | dsmelk | funky_: what browser you use it? |
| 00:21.50 | funky_ | iceweasel |
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| 00:22.17 | dsmelk | hum |
| 00:22.32 | dsmelk | funky_: you can use java for 32bits |
| 00:22.53 | themill | dpkg: tell funky_ about install java |
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| 00:23.25 | funky_ | dsmelk: so, installing the sun's jre would be enough ? |
| 00:23.26 | themill | funky_: use icedtea-gcjwebplugin if you are running lenny or sid. |
| 00:23.27 | funky_ | let's try |
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| 00:23.34 | funky_ | I'm on sid |
| 00:23.35 | funky_ | ok |
| 00:23.48 | dsmelk | dsmelk: You can use JDE or JDK |
| 00:23.48 | abrotman | funky_: which version of debian ? |
| 00:23.59 | dsmelk | funky_: JRE |
| 00:24.01 | funky_ | sid |
| 00:24.13 | abrotman | funky_: apt-cache search icedtea .. have fun |
| 00:24.19 | funky_ | thank you |
| 00:24.23 | infinity2 | anyone running lenny on a dell PE 2950? |
| 00:24.29 | funky_ | blackdown seems to be discontinued |
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| 00:25.11 | dsmelk | funky_: many people don't like to use java for 64bits |
| 00:25.48 | funky_ | dsmelk: I just need java support for accesing to my online bank |
| 00:25.52 | dsmelk | funky_: I search on google.com.br/linux and had many negative assossiations |
| 00:25.56 | dsmelk | ok |
| 00:26.23 | abrotman | infinity2: ask a better question |
| 00:26.29 | abrotman | funky_: use icedtea |
| 00:26.30 | dsmelk | funky_: http://www.java.com/pt_BR/ |
| 00:26.32 | abrotman | dsmelk: stop being a pain |
| 00:26.35 | funky_ | abrotman: I'm on it |
| 00:27.09 | infinity2 | abrotman: how do i ask it better? |
| 00:27.18 | abrotman | infinity2: what do youw ant to know about it ? |
| 00:27.20 | themill | infinity2: assume yes and ask your real question |
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| 00:27.36 | infinity2 | I can't get around this |
| 00:27.37 | infinity2 | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=494936 |
| 00:27.49 | dsmelk | abrotman: sorry, because my english is a trash |
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| 00:28.04 | abrotman | dsmelk: that has nothing to do with it |
| 00:28.08 | infinity2 | bnx2 doesn't work unless you remove it and reload it |
| 00:28.25 | funky_ | abrotman: XD |
| 00:29.16 | abrotman | infinity2: and the DD told you what to do |
| 00:29.59 | infinity2 | DD? |
| 00:30.20 | infinity2 | the only think i can think to try is a newer bios. though i don't have much faith in that |
| 00:30.55 | abrotman | infinity2: did you do what the DD asked at the bottom ? |
| 00:31.07 | abrotman | oh whoops .. i seeit now |
| 00:31.24 | infinity2 | doh! i have the latest bios. |
| 00:31.45 | infinity2 | what a DD ? |
| 00:31.49 | abrotman | infinity2: i thought firmware went in /usr/lib/firmware/ |
| 00:31.50 | infinity2 | i know its not a designated driver |
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| 00:32.22 | infinity2 | abrotman: in the ramfs? |
| 00:32.55 | abrotman | oh .. not sure |
| 00:33.15 | funky_ | icedtea works like a charm |
| 00:33.17 | funky_ | thank you guys |
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| 00:33.46 | infinity2 | abrotman: thats why i was asking if someone ran a 2950 w/ debian lenny |
| 00:33.54 | infinity2 | :) ...its too strange |
| 00:35.06 | abrotman | infinity2: i dont' think it's a hardware issue .. you'd probably do better to wait for the DD to get back to you |
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| 00:35.54 | Ace2016 | you know the debian logo isn't the easiest thing to work with |
| 00:36.37 | CO2Games | Sorry, someone dragged my bot in here |
| 00:36.40 | CO2Games | @part #debian |
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| 00:37.42 | themill | wonders what else nanoFarad would do if $randnick asked it to |
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| 00:40.29 | dennis_p | Ace2016: yeah, putting it on a captain america shield is perhaps the only realistic thing you can do with it |
| 00:40.56 | abrotman | it would make awesome contact lenses :) |
| 00:41.10 | Ace2016 | well i got the svg, i think i'll be able to do what i want with it |
| 00:41.35 | Ace2016 | this but for debian http://i38.tinypic.com/5ai51l.jpg |
| 00:41.45 | Ace2016 | no apple, debian logo instead |
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| 00:42.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | gcjwebplugin? gcj java? I thought the only certain thing about gcj was that ... "it won't work properly" |
| 00:43.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | is half an hour back in the backlog... don't you wonder |
| 00:44.10 | themill | CutMeOwnThroat: it's based on icedtea/openjdk |
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| 00:51.03 | enouf | CutMeOwnThroat: i wasn't ignoring, i had to split for awhile ... did you manage to work it out? |
| 00:52.13 | enouf | please don't ask me to read all that backscroll :-/ |
| 00:53.12 | OpenTokix | enouf: you have to, for your country! |
| 00:53.42 | enouf | heh, anything for bush :-P |
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| 00:54.57 | ozatomic | i'm tring to do a netinst on a new box i got, i had ubuntu running on it but i want to go back to debian and everytime in teh isntaller it can't find teh network drivers |
| 00:55.17 | ozatomic | when ubuntu was on it, it was using e1000 driver but i select that and it doens't work it jstu goes abck to the same screen |
| 00:55.35 | enouf | is e1000e avail? is it intel gigE? |
| 00:55.54 | ozatomic | could be not sure if its on the list |
| 00:56.24 | abrotman | ozatomic: which installer? |
| 00:56.31 | enouf | oh, i recall someone having an issue on debian's e1000e driver for the intel gigE, but ubuntu used e1000e_ich9 or similar |
| 00:56.38 | ozatomic | debian-40r5-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 00:56.44 | enouf | and it was lenny's 2.6.26 |
| 00:56.46 | abrotman | ozatomic: i'd try a lenny daily |
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| 00:56.53 | enouf | concurs |
| 00:57.20 | abrotman | there's no way the etch .18 kernel would work i can't imagine |
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| 00:57.53 | ice799 | Hi - I am trying to create a custom debian package, but I can't find any info on how to specify the flags to use when dpkg-buildpackage runs ./configure |
| 00:58.02 | ozatomic | is there a netinst for lenny? |
| 00:58.04 | enouf | abrotman: doesn't the 4.0r4 and later etch installers have a .24 avail? |
| 00:58.08 | ice799 | there is probably some variable I can set in the rules file, but I can't figure out what it is. |
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| 00:58.16 | ice799 | Anyone have any idea? |
| 00:58.23 | abrotman | enouf: if you use the etchnhalf netinst .. yes |
| 00:58.37 | enouf | ahh, ok, thanks for clarifying |
| 00:58.39 | abrotman | ozatomic: debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ ... make sure you get the daily, not beta2 |
| 00:59.23 | enouf | ice799: you find the .mk files, or whatever they are |
| 00:59.58 | themill | ice799: you do that in debian/rules ; /msg dpkg nmg |
| 01:00.04 | ice799 | I know you do it in rules |
| 01:00.06 | enouf | IIRC -- somewhere under debian/ dir .. i could look |
| 01:00.13 | ice799 | but I don't know how where you specify it |
| 01:00.18 | ice799 | Like what is the variable called? |
| 01:00.34 | ice799 | Do I say: "CONFIGURE_FLAGS=--my-flag" ? |
| 01:00.54 | themill | ice799: no variable, you specify it yourself on the line in debian/rules that calls ./configure -- depending on what build system you're trying to use. |
| 01:00.55 | enouf | DPKG_BUILD_OPTS= or something - i forget |
| 01:01.23 | themill | ice799: what build system are you trying to use? cdbs? |
| 01:01.28 | enouf | (that's what mplayer from svn uses, but it's a bit old) |
| 01:02.11 | ice799 | themill: I am trying to modify the package for git, to not build the gui and other stuff. This is a package I'm going to use locally on my boxes. I have no idea what build system the git package uses, though. |
| 01:02.51 | ice799 | themill: so I want to pass --without-tcl and other options to ./configure |
| 01:03.00 | ice799 | can't seem to figure out how to do that |
| 01:03.15 | themill | ice799: any particular advantages in doing that? |
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| 01:04.04 | smacnay_ | anyone know if the dbian-multimedia mplayer package is built with lirc enabled? |
| 01:04.09 | ice799 | themill: Yeah, there a few. It would take a long time to explain though. Basically I am trying to build a new debian package for the latest version of git which has a feature I use. I don't want all the deps though because I don't want to build deb packages for all the random tcl libs and stuff. |
| 01:04.24 | enouf | .../debian/ruleset/misc/README |
| 01:04.50 | ice799 | themill: I can build git without all the extra junk and it works fine. I am just trying to debianze the process by using the already existing debian package for git. |
| 01:05.11 | ice799 | themill: I've removed all the target I dont want from rules and control. Just need to make configure take the right flags |
| 01:05.14 | enouf | maybe make-kpkg specific |
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| 01:06.15 | jhamlin | Does running XP in etch with VirtualBox make my system as vulnerable to attack as an XP machine?? |
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| 01:06.53 | jpwhiting|laptop | hello, at the risk of getting flamed, anyone here know how I can add a debian repository to get not-free software? |
| 01:07.02 | jpwhiting|laptop | stuff such as skype and flash |
| 01:07.08 | jpwhiting|laptop | I'm using debian testing |
| 01:07.11 | smacnay_ | jhamlin: is your machine running XP in a virtualbox not now an xp machine? |
| 01:07.23 | themill | jpwhiting|laptop: /msg dpkg skype ; /msg dpkg adobe flash |
| 01:08.01 | jhamlin | smacnay_: I have an etch machine; I want to run XP in VirtualBox on my etch machine |
| 01:08.23 | ice799 | themill: Any advice on how I can figure out which build system git is using for its pacakge? It is -not- using dpatch. I know that much for sure. |
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| 01:08.47 | themill | ice799: I'm looking at it now... it's ..umm... different. |
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| 01:09.38 | jpwhiting|laptop | themill: thx |
| 01:09.57 | ice799 | themill: Thanks for taking a look, I appreciate it. |
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| 01:14.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | enouf, work what out? the dependency hell? no... I managed to break my X installation (no direct rendering) and decided to give up for now... perhaps time to go to a newer kernel rather soon now |
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| 01:14.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | enouf, just another lesson of "if it looks very suspicious, keep your f'ing fingers off" |
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| 01:15.29 | enouf | haha .. if it ain't broke, break it harder :-) |
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| 01:15.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | grrrrr |
| 01:15.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, it's broke now |
| 01:16.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | but I fear fixing implies to restart X, which I don't want to do now |
| 01:16.09 | enouf | dang - which kernel? and this is a tulip + nvidia blob issue |
| 01:16.14 | enouf | ? |
| 01:16.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | not sure what the issue is |
| 01:16.23 | enouf | heh |
| 01:16.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | tulip crashes because... er, what was it - python was split in many sub-binaries? |
| 01:16.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | but recompiling from source should have fixed that |
| 01:17.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | only, I went into the nvidia-blob when trying to fulfil the build-dependencies |
| 01:17.23 | enouf | oh n03z, not an X restart ! (i know how annoying those are though - but for video drivers related, i'd expect a restart) |
| 01:17.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, I only got around 200 windows open... so it'll be a breeze |
| 01:18.01 | enouf | i know .. i know .. all too well |
| 01:18.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | well... should have been as simple as "apt-get instal tulip" to try it out (looks really interesting) |
| 01:18.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | but sometimes it aint |
| 01:18.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | damn package maintainer - *HE* should have dealt with all this crap ;) |
| 01:18.51 | enouf | hugs apt's -s option :-) |
| 01:19.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh, I must have confused that with -y |
| 01:19.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | :-P |
| 01:19.50 | themill | ice799: it doesn't look like ./configure is run at all in that debian/rules, and I've just tried compiling it and can see no evidence that it's called by other means either. You could try calling ./configure from the "build-indep-stamp" target though (that's probably the easiest) |
| 01:20.06 | dustybin | CutMeOwnThroat: would you mind changing your nick, i find it deeply offensive |
| 01:20.33 | ice799 | themill: thanks, i'll give that a shot |
| 01:20.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | Fancycake, that's ok, I'm here for you |
| 01:20.37 | abrotman | dustybin: i find yours offensive |
| 01:20.42 | dustybin | :P |
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| 01:20.45 | themill | ice799: good luck... |
| 01:20.50 | john-- | hi, what's the command for pinning a process to a core? |
| 01:21.09 | abrotman | john--: google for "cpu affinity linux" |
| 01:22.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | dustybin, anyways, I see right through you - you just want me to change my nick to the shorter "Throat" so you can start cracking jokes |
| 01:22.10 | enouf | /nick bitches |
| 01:22.13 | enouf | :-P |
| 01:22.17 | abrotman | !info schedutil etch |
| 01:22.23 | jpinx | I am creating several HDD's with Debian installed and I want to copy the good stuff I've done on one HDD to the others. There are all for the same laptop. What should/can I copy over to get my browser with it's working flash and Java runtime environment, Gaim seettings, etc,etc? |
| 01:22.31 | abrotman | !info schedtool etch |
| 01:22.39 | abrotman | oh ffs |
| 01:22.41 | abrotman | !info schedtool lenny |
| 01:22.44 | abrotman | last try! |
| 01:22.46 | dpkg | schedtool: (Queries/alters process' scheduling policy and CPU affinity), section utils, is extra. Version: 1.2.10-1 (lenny), Packaged size: 23 kB, Installed size: 44 kB |
| 01:22.58 | themill | judd: info schedutils --release ethc |
| 01:23.01 | themill | judd: info schedutils --release etch |
| 01:23.02 | judd | themill: schedutils (utils): is optional; Version: 1.5.0-1; Size: 18.2k; Installed: 88k -- Linux scheduler utilities |
| 01:23.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | abrotman, I *knew* you also enjoyed playing with the bot |
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| 01:24.11 | themill | judd: versions schedtool |
| 01:24.12 | judd | themill: schedtool: 1.2.9-4~bpo40+1 (etch-backports) 1.2.10-1 (lenny) 1.3.0-1 (sid) |
| 01:24.14 | acidslep | doeth anyone know how to keep the enlightenment pager ontop? |
| 01:24.19 | Iridos | dustybin, ha, fooled you |
| 01:24.19 | themill | (also in bpo) |
| 01:24.51 | abrotman | jpinx: didn't we cover this a few days ago? |
| 01:25.09 | Iridos | acidslep, probably like you keep any window on top in your WM? |
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| 01:25.35 | jpinx | abrotman - not this - I've only just created the first s HDD's |
| 01:25.42 | jpinx | netinstall is so slow...... |
| 01:25.57 | abrotman | we did htis a few days ago .. i know we did |
| 01:26.04 | acidslep | hehe |
| 01:26.29 | abrotman | jpinx: remember .. i asked you how many partitions ... |
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| 01:27.28 | jpinx | abrotman - yes - I've done the installs - each one fresh. I couldn't copy the tar's over. That didn't work |
| 01:27.44 | abrotman | tried dd? |
| 01:27.46 | abrotman | g4l ? |
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| 01:28.15 | jpinx | but now I want to copy over the essentials to get the nice setup I have on #1 onto the backup |
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| 01:29.06 | funky | is it possible to know from which repository was a package installed ? |
| 01:29.28 | abrotman | http://people.debian.org/~dannf/apt-inventory .. maybe |
| 01:29.36 | funky | nice, thanks again |
| 01:29.39 | abrotman | i haven't tried it .. use at your own risk |
| 01:29.52 | funky | k |
| 01:30.48 | jpinx | reads man dd |
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| 01:31.05 | b0nn | hi all |
| 01:31.22 | acidslep | hello |
| 01:31.23 | Iridos | jpinx, so why couldn't you copy just everything? |
| 01:31.58 | b0nn | I've got a weird problem with a debian box, it was working fine, with intermittant network problems. I rebooted the machine last night, and ever since it's been impossible to get networking going with that install |
| 01:32.10 | frank_ | is there any way for reloading .screenrc without exiting screen? |
| 01:32.17 | jpinx | I would but I think permissions might cause trouble |
| 01:32.40 | b0nn | I've put the HDD's into another machine, with a known good NIC, and I get the same problem |
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| 01:32.53 | b0nn | has anyone got any idea how to troubleshoot this issue? |
| 01:33.33 | Iridos | jpinx, tar preserves owner/permissions if run by root and with the right options |
| 01:33.39 | abrotman | b0nn: do you get errors when you start the networking? |
| 01:33.56 | b0nn | "No such device" |
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| 01:34.08 | b0nn | when I try ifconfig eth0 up |
| 01:34.13 | abrotman | b0nn: dmesg | grep eth |
| 01:34.14 | Iridos | b0nn, dmesg and /var/log/messages ? |
| 01:34.19 | Iridos | hehe |
| 01:34.22 | Iridos | echo? |
| 01:34.35 | Iridos | !echo |
| 01:34.35 | dpkg | ECHO...ECHo...ECho...Echo...echo...cho...ho...o....... |
| 01:34.43 | b0nn | eth0 is a rhine II |
| 01:34.46 | Vi^3PirePengy | dont do this often.. how do i get to a command line from boot bc X is giving me problems |
| 01:34.52 | jpinx | Iridos: that's the rub "the right options" I'm reading now thanks |
| 01:35.14 | dustybin | the debian lenny global economic meltdown: Number concerning the next release: 179 |
| 01:35.17 | abrotman | b0nn: dmesg | grep eth .. does it show up ? |
| 01:35.40 | Iridos | Vi^3PirePengy, ctrl-alt-F1 if X runs - else you should be dropped onto a console automatically |
| 01:35.41 | abrotman | b0nn: does anything show up? |
| 01:35.49 | b0nn | does this line sound odd: eth0: MII PHY found at address 1, status 0x786d advertising 05e1 Link 0021 |
| 01:35.54 | abrotman | no |
| 01:36.07 | b0nn | abrotman: sorry, yes, VIA Rhine II comes up |
| 01:36.11 | b0nn | as well as that line |
| 01:36.22 | abrotman | and it's eth0 ? |
| 01:36.26 | b0nn | yes |
| 01:36.31 | abrotman | any other lines? |
| 01:36.36 | b0nn | just those two |
| 01:36.46 | abrotman | sees one .. but whatever |
| 01:37.03 | b0nn | the line about VIA Rhine... and the line I typed out |
| 01:37.07 | Iridos | b0nn, if you use less and search with this, anything else interesting? |
| 01:37.11 | abrotman | b0nn: nothing about udev renaming it ? |
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| 01:37.31 | b0nn | abrotman: not that I can see |
| 01:37.37 | b0nn | Iridos: sorry? |
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| 01:38.25 | Iridos | b0nn, I meant if you do dmesg | less then search with e.g /eth0<enter> is there any other error close to that line? |
| 01:39.01 | b0nn | just those two lines |
| 01:39.10 | Iridos | then you have no problem :) |
| 01:39.22 | Iridos | (hooray) |
| 01:39.39 | abrotman | if you look in /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules .. how many items are listed? |
| 01:40.33 | b0nn | 3 |
| 01:40.44 | abrotman | delete that file .. reboot .. see what happens |
| 01:41.12 | abrotman | or move it .. |
| 01:41.15 | b0nn | yeah |
| 01:41.29 | b0nn | the first line was the NIC from the orig box |
| 01:41.30 | funky | my ethernet used to change the mac address on every reboot, so udev assigned a different device every time, it was solved when I switched to sid |
| 01:41.36 | b0nn | the second I dont recognise |
| 01:41.43 | b0nn | and the third was the Rhine NIC |
| 01:42.07 | b0nn | links up :) |
| 01:42.13 | abrotman | b0nn: happy camper? |
| 01:42.21 | b0nn | much:) |
| 01:42.28 | b0nn | could you explain what was wrong? |
| 01:42.35 | abrotman | usually there's a note in the dmesg saying udev renamed it |
| 01:42.35 | TiMiDo | !info libncurses5-dev |
| 01:42.36 | abrotman | !z25 |
| 01:42.37 | dpkg | As of version 0.090, udev has the ability to statically rename ethernet cards based on MAC address. The addresses are configured in /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules . If you want the mappings to change, edit that file. See <forcedeth mac>. As of version 0.124-1 the file is called /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules . |
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| 01:43.00 | dpkg | libncurses5-dev: (developer's libraries and docs for ncurses), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 5.6+20081025-1 (sid), Packaged size: 1507 kB, Installed size: 6444 kB |
| 01:43.18 | funky | seems to be a very known issue |
| 01:43.29 | funky | !forcedeth mac |
| 01:43.29 | dpkg | If your network card keeps changing its name each time (eth0, then eth1, then eth2, etc) and you are using the forcedeth driver, then edit /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules, remove all but one entry, and replace the MAC address with "00:00:6c:*". |
| 01:44.09 | b0nn | excellent, thanks guys |
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| 01:44.50 | jhamlin | how would I tell what motherboard I have (other than peeking inside the case)? |
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| 01:45.00 | abrotman | !tell jhamlin about whats my hardware |
| 01:45.42 | funky | !tell jhamlin what happens when you search the word 'google' on google |
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| 01:46.30 | abrotman | funky: that's not funny |
| 01:46.58 | b0nn | dmidecode? |
| 01:47.57 | jhamlin | abrotman: thanks |
| 01:48.00 | chuck | My debian-sys-maint account has gotten corrupted, how can I fix that? |
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| 01:48.35 | abrotman | !tell chuck about debian-sys-maint |
| 01:48.52 | funky | fuck, this bot has answers for everything |
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| 01:49.16 | Iridos | NOT true |
| 01:49.19 | Iridos | !everything |
| 01:49.23 | Iridos | see? |
| 01:49.31 | jpinx | funky: the trick is to know the syntax of the question.... |
| 01:49.53 | abrotman | or knowing how to search it |
| 01:49.58 | jpinx | talks to the bot a lot - saves earache on here ;) |
| 01:50.13 | jpinx | abrotman: is there a bot search thingy? |
| 01:50.17 | Iridos | or how to quickly create the factoid that answers the question ;) |
| 01:50.18 | chuck | abrotman: That doesn't tell me the command to fix it though :P |
| 01:50.28 | abrotman | chuck: it tells you there is a script to fix it |
| 01:50.40 | Iridos | jpinx, did you try /msg dpkg help? :) (listkeys and listvalues comes to mind) |
| 01:50.45 | chuck | What is it called though? >< |
| 01:50.45 | jpinx | the command to fix it is tell abrotman ;) |
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| 01:51.54 | jpinx | Iridos: that's a cool list of commands - but most times I'm more lost than that ;) |
| 01:52.09 | chuck | abrotman: What is it called?? |
| 01:52.10 | chuck | :P |
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| 01:53.15 | jhamlin | wow hwinfo is not cool. It blanked my screen and I had to reboot :( |
| 01:53.20 | ||Okkoto|| | Hummm... |
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| 01:53.43 | ||Okkoto|| | I've been kicked out of a few chat rooms, but I have a qustion none the less. |
| 01:53.55 | ||Okkoto|| | Alright guys, check it out! I just figured out a very easy way to take advantage of the free XBox 360 Elite giveaway that Blockbuster, Amazon, Netflix, etc, is doing! It's simple, 1) Sign up 2) Complete an Offer (I just found a good one that doesn't cost money and can be canceled before the charges happen) 3) Get 8 to 11 of your buddies or peoples to do the same. Bam! Free XBox 360! I know it's legit becaus |
| 01:53.56 | abrotman | chuck: look in /usr/share/doc/mysql-server-5.0/ for a clue .. |
| 01:54.03 | *** mode/#debian [+o abrotman] by ChanServ |
| 01:54.05 | ||Okkoto|| | If anyone is interested in what I just posted, PM me |
| 01:54.08 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@r74-195-245-245.stl1cmta01.stwrok.ok.dh.suddenlink.net] by abrotman |
| 01:54.08 | *** kick/#debian [||Okkoto||!n=abrotman@pdpc/supporter/active/abrotman] by abrotman (abrotman) |
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| 01:54.15 | Sling | right |
| 01:54.34 | Iridos | good that he told you in advance, though |
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| 01:56.56 | dustybin | does linux offer some kind of remote desktop software what is as good as windows remote desktop? |
| 01:57.58 | abrotman | you mean like .. rdp ? |
| 01:57.58 | dustybin | never heard of that |
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| 01:57.58 | abrotman | it's remote desktop |
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| 01:57.59 | abrotman | you know .. the thing you just asked about |
| 01:57.59 | endra | hey, how can I tell if my infrared remote control is connected to ttyS0 ? |
| 01:57.59 | dustybin | abrotman: right, its the protocol, yes, thats what i mean |
| 01:58.34 | abrotman | !tell dustybin about search |
| 01:59.01 | up365 | jhamlin, lshw-gtk install with synaptic |
| 02:00.52 | Iridos | endra, hmm... cat /dev/ttyS0 and produce input? |
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| 02:01.46 | Iridos | endra, also, there's probably something about it in dmesg if it didn't connected too long ago |
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| 02:02.28 | endra | Iridos: well, I'm trying to setup lirc but I am not getting any input. cat /dev/ttyS0 gives input/output error |
| 02:02.45 | Iridos | also |
| 02:02.47 | Iridos | !infrared |
| 02:02.47 | dpkg | hmm... infrared is http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Infrared-HOWTO/ |
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| 02:03.39 | Iridos | hehe |
| 02:03.44 | Iridos | !input/output error |
| 02:03.44 | dpkg | When you see one of these while reading or writing from/to a local hard drive, it's time to buy a new hard drive. Check dmesg(8) for more details with which to frighten your friends. |
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| 02:04.53 | Elite | anyone here know how to setup proftpd on debian etch? |
| 02:05.11 | Iridos | input/output error means it's not working properly, so much for sure - but I'm not sure what it means further... I think it has a quite specific meaning as to what's wrong, but can't remember |
| 02:06.28 | Iridos | Elite, apt-get install proftpd , then answer the configure questions, possibly edit /etc/proftpd.conf or something and follow instructions there? |
| 02:06.56 | simonrvn | Iridos: what the bot said |
| 02:07.16 | abrotman | !tell Iridos about why aptitude |
| 02:07.32 | Iridos | abrotman, ?? |
| 02:07.36 | Pav5088 | Does anyone here manage an LDAP based site at all? |
| 02:07.55 | abrotman | Pav5088: and what if they do? |
| 02:07.58 | Guerin | Pav5088: /msg dpkg ask |
| 02:08.04 | xlotlu | hmm, mdadm can do partitionable arrays. i wonder if i can get rid of lvm |
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| 02:08.58 | abrotman | can mdadm grow partitions? |
| 02:09.26 | Elite | Iridos, is there a configuration process or just the config file to do? |
| 02:09.26 | xlotlu | they look like "regular" partitions |
| 02:09.41 | Iridos | simonrvn, but it's not a hard-drive in his case... |
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| 02:09.53 | Pav5088 | abrotman: Just asking really... I'm wondering how people are using it. I'm fiddling with GOsa... and using it as a GUI front end for DNS, DHCP, Unix/Posix, Samba and SOGo (groupware)... have been trying for AGES to get Kolab working but it's frustrating the hell out of me. I just felt like asking what people were doing with LDAP. |
| 02:09.57 | endra | Iridos: what do you recommend I do? |
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| 02:10.27 | xlotlu | abrotman: can't find much documentation about it, but it seems you create the array out of the entire disk, and partition it as usual |
| 02:10.48 | abrotman | xlotlu: maybe read more about what lvm does? |
| 02:11.40 | Pav5088 | abrotman: I just think integrating services on Linux is going to be the Next Big Thing(tm)... but I'm wondering why noone else seems really excited about it. |
| 02:11.43 | endra | Iridos: turns out my remote is USB not serial |
| 02:11.45 | Iridos | Elite, I really don't know, I used vsftpd, but it wasn't hard, as far as I remember - why don't you just try and ask something specific if problems occur? Probably you have a working daemon just with answering the questions |
| 02:11.57 | xlotlu | abrotman: i know pretty well what lvm does, and it's overkill for my home setup. besides i've had lvm at home for 4 years, and the only time i needed to resize a partition i couldn't do it while keeping contiguous allocation |
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| 02:13.08 | Iridos | endra, dmesg really should tell you a lot about the success/failure of detection when it was detected, kernel-modules loaded, etc |
| 02:13.27 | Elite | Iridos, when I do /etc/init.d/proftpd start and get nothing |
| 02:13.27 | Elite | no output nothing just another prompt |
| 02:14.03 | Iridos | well, so? if you can do ftp localhost, that's still ok, right? |
| 02:14.10 | endra | Iridos: when loading 'lirc_serial', dmesg shows: lirc_dev: IR Remote Control driver registered, major 61 , lirc_serial: auto-detected active low receiver, lirc_dev: lirc_register_plugin: sample_rate: 0 |
| 02:14.21 | abrotman | Elite: what do you expect to happen? |
| 02:14.26 | Iridos | actually |
| 02:14.29 | Iridos | !proftpd |
| 02:14.29 | dpkg | i heard proftpd is a professional GPL'd ftp server for unix and unix-like operating systems. The home page is: http://www.proftpd.org. Proftpd is also L33t as Flood's butt., down, something, dropped from all the other dists because they can't keep security holes out of it... try using vsftpd if you don't need any proftpd specific features. http://www.castaglia.org/proftpd/ |
| 02:14.40 | Iridos | seems my choice of vsftpd wasnt so bad :) |
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| 02:15.22 | abrotman | proftpd hasn't had an issue in awhile |
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| 02:15.49 | Iridos | hehe... when I do /etc/init.d/something start, I always expect a lot of nude girls to run into the room and worship me... but each single time I've been disappointed |
| 02:15.57 | Iridos | so far! |
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| 02:16.26 | Guerin | Iridos: keep trying |
| 02:16.34 | Guerin | one day you might have better luck |
| 02:16.39 | Elite | abrotman, I expect it to give something saying the service started kinda like apache |
| 02:16.47 | Iridos | Guerin, dmn right! |
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| 02:16.59 | abrotman | Elite: maybe you should try using it |
| 02:18.01 | xlotlu | well, a partitionable array is indeed.. partitionable. though i find it weird it uses a 2 heads 4 sectors geometry |
| 02:18.04 | Iridos | that's what I suggested, right? |
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| 02:20.07 | Iridos | never understood why tar -xzf couldn't be made to handle either gzip or bzip2 depending on input, but needed another j flag |
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| 02:21.32 | Iridos | Guerin, I'll let you know when it worked.... well, or perhaps I'll be too busy :) |
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| 02:25.24 | xxiao | i can ssh+putty to tunnel a ssh session through corporate http_proxy gateway to my home ssh server at port 443 |
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| 02:25.50 | xxiao | now i use linux solely at work, and i could not do the same anymore. |
| 02:26.32 | xxiao | first, putty for linux is broken on tunnel function, and all google results tell me how to tunnel mail/browsing,etc |
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| 02:26.47 | xxiao | while i need tunnel a ssh session to 443 port at home through the proxy server at work |
| 02:27.09 | xxiao | all ssh -L 443:localhost:443 -p 443 -l user home-ip-address failed |
| 02:27.24 | xxiao | crokscrew failed too, is it possible to do that at command line? |
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| 02:28.06 | Iridos | there's a putty for linux? |
| 02:28.11 | drazak | aye |
| 02:28.14 | xxiao | yes. |
| 02:28.18 | Iridos | amazing |
| 02:28.22 | Iridos | what for? :) |
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| 02:28.57 | Iridos | how do you "tunnel an ssh session"? |
| 02:29.36 | xlotlu | is it possible to create a partitionable raid1 array out of an existing disk? it certainly seems to work, but not sure it's quite right |
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| 02:29.36 | xxiao | i want to ssh to home machine listening at 443 |
| 02:30.01 | xxiao | i need pass the http_proxy, then to use 443 port |
| 02:30.01 | Iridos | that's all? |
| 02:30.06 | xxiao | yes that's all |
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| 02:30.29 | xxiao | all from command line, unless there is some gui like putty that works for tunnel under linux |
| 02:30.33 | Iridos | oh, so you're using a https proxy, then connect to a server at 443 |
| 02:30.40 | xxiao | i can do it fine under windows using putty, but failed under linux |
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| 02:30.53 | xxiao | tried _many_ times with lots of googling |
| 02:31.09 | xxiao | hwo to let ssh be aware of http_proxy, i guess that's what stopped me |
| 02:31.10 | Iridos | there's a program for using ssh over a http proxy |
| 02:31.24 | Iridos | whose name I cannot remember :) |
| 02:31.32 | xxiao | corkscrew? |
| 02:31.34 | Iridos | yes |
| 02:31.53 | xxiao | tried a few tutorials on that, still failed :( |
| 02:32.13 | Iridos | what's the problem? |
| 02:32.31 | Iridos | and why do you have to go via https? |
| 02:32.37 | Iridos | seems quite a waste |
| 02:33.14 | xxiao | the connection will always fail to established |
| 02:33.33 | xxiao | the proxy/firewall only allows 80/443 |
| 02:33.39 | Iridos | corkscrew package description sais: It can be used for instance to connect to an SSH server running on a remote 443 port through a strict HTTPS proxy. |
| 02:34.08 | Iridos | what type of proxy is it anyways? |
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| 02:35.37 | xlotlu | "Warning: The partition table looks like it was made for C/H/S=*/255/63 (instead of 78142784/2/4)." <-- i guess this tells me i should partition my array directly |
| 02:35.51 | xxiao | http://www.derkeiler.com/Newsgroups/comp.security.ssh/2007-12/msg00073.html |
| 02:36.04 | xxiao | that's what i'm trying too |
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| 02:36.28 | xxiao | i only know it's a http proxy, not sure what type it is |
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| 02:38.01 | Iridos | I think you should start with using http instead of https to make things simpler.... (then you can still try to figure out how to switch to https) |
| 02:38.19 | Iridos | the additional layer of encryption is probably not helpful |
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| 02:39.20 | Iridos | hm, I had played around with corkscrew a bit about a year ago... |
| 02:39.32 | Tramp | xxiao: the proxy (as part of a security suite) may well check itself, if there is really a https-server on the other end instead of just blindly honoring a CONNECT request |
| 02:40.01 | Iridos | Tramp, but if he could connect with putty, that shouldn't be the problem |
| 02:40.04 | Tramp | xxiao: and, btw, you are probably aware that the thing you are trying to do can get you fired, I persume |
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| 02:40.43 | xxiao | tramp: thanks. i need it to run irssi at work |
| 02:40.58 | abrotman | you need to run irssi at work ? |
| 02:41.12 | xxiao | unless irssi honors http_proxy(i don't know how) |
| 02:41.35 | Tramp | xxiao: in this case you can contact your local security (maybe via your boss) and state this requirement |
| 02:41.40 | xxiao | Iridos: yes. i can use putty to do that, and the putty-for-linux is broken on tunneling |
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| 02:42.39 | xxiao | after switch to 100% debian at work, the only thing missing now is this tunneling, the filemaker server access |
| 02:43.01 | TiMiDo | hey how do i see a package version? |
| 02:43.06 | TiMiDo | for example xchat version. |
| 02:43.09 | abrotman | !tell TiMiDo about version |
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| 02:48.47 | Iridos | xxiao, perhaps they also changed the proxy configuration... try if you can use CONNECT at all.... perhaps it's just gone |
| 02:49.18 | Iridos | xxiao, also, there are things like ajaxterm, which might accomplish the same |
| 02:49.55 | xxiao | again, i can ssh to homeserver:443 via putty, i suppose CONNECT will be fine? |
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| 02:51.06 | Iridos | I thought you can't do it anymore? |
| 02:51.48 | xxiao | i can do it over windows, but i just erased my windows to replace it with debian |
| 02:52.12 | xxiao | my lab machine is windows, and it can still do putty-tunnel |
| 02:52.19 | xxiao | but inconvenient |
| 02:53.01 | xxiao | thanks. i'll give ajaxterm a shot |
| 02:53.09 | Iridos | so what happens when you do "corkscrew yourproxy 80 yourhome 80" and have sshd running on port 80? |
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| 02:54.14 | xxiao | well i have a webserver at 80 at home all the time |
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| 02:54.35 | Iridos | well replace it for now |
| 02:54.46 | xxiao | yes i'm booting another machine now |
| 02:54.55 | xxiao | need vpn to corporate machine to try it |
| 02:54.58 | Iridos | I just tried with an open proxy and corkscrew to go back to my localhost |
| 02:55.07 | Iridos | and I get the SSH-identification |
| 02:55.47 | Iridos | I don't know any open ssl proxies, though |
| 02:57.02 | ukatan | hey all, I have an odd problem with my .Xdefaults file |
| 02:57.07 | ukatan | it seems like it's not being read |
| 02:57.11 | ukatan | it's in my home and everything |
| 02:57.18 | ukatan | and it works on my other lenny system |
| 02:57.27 | ukatan | (this is a new install, if it helps) |
| 02:58.22 | ukatan | I have some xterm settings like font and color in there |
| 02:58.28 | ukatan | for some reason the font doesn't get picked up |
| 02:59.16 | xxiao | Iridos, i got the identification too |
| 02:59.19 | xxiao | i'm doing "corkscrew proxy 1080 homeip 443 |
| 02:59.40 | xxiao | what's supposed to be the next step? |
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| 03:00.13 | Iridos | so 1080 is for ssl tunneling already? |
| 03:00.40 | Iridos | guess you put |
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| 03:01.00 | xxiao | all the proxy at work is using 1080, so i think it's for ssl as well |
| 03:01.12 | Iridos | ProxyCommand corkscrew proxy 1080 %h %p > ~/.ssh/config |
| 03:01.37 | Iridos | at your machine at work, that is |
| 03:01.46 | xxiao | tried that. does not work when i do ssh -p 443 homeip |
| 03:01.51 | Iridos | then you run ssh -v -v homeip 443 |
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| 03:02.08 | Iridos | not -p |
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| 03:02.44 | Iridos | corkscrew sais nothing of -p |
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| 03:03.16 | dirkson | Hey all. I need to set up an audio/visual alarm to remind me of stuffs throughout the day. What a good program to do that? |
| 03:03.16 | xxiao | i did "ssh -v -v homeip -p 443 -l username" |
| 03:03.23 | xxiao | and it's working now, amazing |
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| 03:03.56 | jpinx | what small app with .deb pkg will play quicktime and wmv files? |
| 03:04.06 | asha | jpinx, mplayer |
| 03:04.10 | Iridos | mplayer? :) |
| 03:04.11 | Iridos | eh |
| 03:04.18 | Iridos | "small" |
| 03:04.25 | xxiao | so, the final solution is that: |
| 03:04.35 | jpinx | mplayer isn't small.... but thanks |
| 03:04.41 | xxiao | put the ProxyCommand line to .ssh/config |
| 03:04.47 | xxiao | then ssh -p 443 to homeip |
| 03:04.55 | Iridos | jpinx, there isn't anyting *smaller* that can play all those formats, though |
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| 03:05.08 | xxiao | Great Thanks! |
| 03:05.21 | jpinx | Iridos: I was hoping you wouldn't say that;) |
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| 03:05.38 | Iridos | jpinx, how much smaller can you go than to remove any gui |
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| 03:06.47 | jpinx | trying to get a slim install but with facilities. Lots of stuff in the standard desltop that are duplicates or not in my wish list |
| 03:07.15 | jpinx | why are there 2 browsers int eh standard install - epiphany and iceweasel ? |
| 03:07.29 | Iridos | *shrug* punch a huge disk in and that's it ;) |
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| 03:08.15 | jpinx | Iridos: Hmph. |
| 03:08.40 | jpinx | linux is getting like windows.... |
| 03:08.49 | jpinx | runs for cover |
| 03:08.52 | Iridos | no bluescreen |
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| 03:09.34 | jpinx | Iridos: yes -- I get bluescreen in debian :p |
| 03:09.41 | Iridos | anyways, windows is becoming BSD because of all the stolen code |
| 03:10.50 | jpinx | I love debian for it's dpkg/apt but I wish there was an option during install for a truly minimal X system |
| 03:11.51 | jello | jpinx: define truly minimal |
| 03:12.18 | jpinx | jello: with only one browser would be a start |
| 03:13.04 | jpinx | xfce4 instead of gnome |
| 03:14.21 | jpinx | the principle I work on is that it is easier for a non-expert to add pkgs than it is to remove them. I might remove something essential :| |
| 03:14.24 | Iridos | "apt-get remove epiphany"? |
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| 03:14.54 | Iridos | jpinx, yes, but the good thing is, you'd find out pretty promptly if it was really essential :) |
| 03:15.01 | jpinx | Iridos: sure - that's only an example - there's loads more - but I don't know how essential they are |
| 03:15.15 | Iridos | the same statement is true for all of them :) |
| 03:15.44 | jpinx | Iridos: yep - that is why I am on my current crusade on a duplicate HDD - removing stuff till I get a failure |
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| 03:16.09 | Iridos | likes having lots of software installed |
| 03:16.33 | Iridos | it's kinda like... ooooh, this is soo cool <installs it, but never uses it again> |
| 03:16.43 | Elite | is there a way to finish getting the rest of something that isn't installed fully? |
| 03:16.44 | jpinx | heh |
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| 03:17.20 | Iridos | Elite, just do apt-get install package again? |
| 03:17.49 | jpinx | thought apt-get could pick up where it left off.... |
| 03:17.52 | Iridos | also, "apt-get -f install" is rather popular |
| 03:18.09 | Iridos | or of course the same with aptitude |
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| 03:19.05 | linuxguy | !nvidia |
| 03:19.05 | dpkg | To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. If you've done it before, asking me about <nvidia pre-built> or <nvidia m-a> may work. If you're using a Geforce 2 or older, ask me about <nvidia_legacy>. nvidia.com drivers (ie. <nvidia-installer>) are _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia (irc.freenode.net). |
| 03:19.53 | linuxguy | can someone please point me to the nvidia one liner for my nvdia 6100 card?..cheers |
| 03:20.11 | Duuke | http://pastebin.com/m32e98f86 anyone an idea ? |
| 03:20.36 | Iridos | don't think there's anything special for "nvidia 6100" in the factoids |
| 03:20.40 | Duuke | it was working fine tille a distupgrade |
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| 03:21.07 | Duuke | debian kde4 |
| 03:21.14 | Duuke | ( Operating System ) Linux 4.0 Kernel: 2.6.18-6-686, GNU/Linux | Xorg: 7.1.1 | IRC CLient: X-Chat v.2.6.8 |
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| 03:22.42 | linuxguy | Iridos, ive only just installed debian.....i need a link to an update and the driver to make it the graphics card worrk properly |
| 03:23.23 | Iridos | linuxguy, well, the factoid you just called is essentially it - try one of the suggested methods |
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| 03:24.38 | linuxguy | Iridos, i take it factiod is like ive asked a question......and that is the answer? |
| 03:24.57 | Iridos | Duuke, dunno about nvidia-settings - but root can't open the display, because DISPLAY is not set (and root has a different $HOME/.Xauthority than the user, which is needed for authentification) |
| 03:25.24 | Duuke | k |
| 03:25.37 | Duuke | but there are not settingt |
| 03:25.48 | Duuke | the settingswindow is empty |
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| 03:26.10 | Iridos | linuxguy, the factoid tells you to either go and read the wiki page if you don't know what you're doing, or to /msg dpkg nvidia pre-built or /msg dpkg nvida m-a ... etc if you have a fair idea of what you're doing and need a reminder |
| 03:26.20 | Iridos | which seems fair advice |
| 03:26.34 | jpinx | Hmm -- installed mplayer but it's not in the gui menus in gnome |
| 03:26.52 | Iridos | jpinx, it's not a gui program, that wouldnt make sense |
| 03:27.26 | jpinx | wonders what mplaer is then |
| 03:27.33 | Iridos | jpinx, anyways, didn't you just wail you wanted a small install |
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| 03:27.45 | Duuke | /etc/X11/xorg.conf: Driver "nvidia" maybe vesa is better ? |
| 03:27.47 | Iridos | it's a commandline program by default |
| 03:27.52 | grul | there's a package named gnome-mplayer, maybe that'll include a gui and menu items |
| 03:27.55 | jpinx | Iridos: one that works - yes... |
| 03:28.17 | linuxguy | Iridos, I really appreciate you help, but theres a one-liner out for nvidia cards and an update.....thats what i would relly like to see :) |
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| 03:28.45 | jpinx | grul: no such package |
| 03:28.58 | liable | wtf is memos from freenode staff? |
| 03:29.05 | liable | how do i see em? |
| 03:29.19 | grul | well, maybe it's only in ubuntu :( |
| 03:29.26 | Iridos | Duuke, no, that should be right - check if the nvidia kernel module is loaded, also look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 03:29.42 | Iridos | linuxguy, no, it's not - /msg dpkg nvidia one liner and you'll see that it's gone |
| 03:30.02 | Iridos | linuxguy, there *was* such a factoid |
| 03:30.10 | grul | jpinx, there's gnome-mplayer in sid |
| 03:30.13 | Iridos | but obviously someone removed it |
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| 03:30.15 | Agrajag- | anyone know how to get an IP address from an smb computer name? smbtree is listing a computer and it's shares, but smbmount then tells me name not found. if i can use the ip address i'm fairly sure smbmount will work |
| 03:30.17 | ozatomic | is there still a way to get php4 via apt in lenny? |
| 03:30.33 | jpinx | grul: thanks - no good to me then... |
| 03:30.44 | Iridos | jpinx, aptitude search mplayer |
| 03:30.55 | linuxguy | Iridos, i see now.......i did not know that......thanks......i will read the wiki and see what i can do......thaks |
| 03:31.11 | Iridos | jpinx, but you were the guy who wanted a small install - why waste space on a worthless gui? :) |
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| 03:31.38 | Duuke | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:32.26 | Iridos | Duuke, /sbin/lsmod |grep nvidia |
| 03:33.18 | Iridos | !tell jpinx about debian-multimedia |
| 03:35.08 | Duuke | /sbin/lsmod |grep nvidia nothing happens an as i said i'm ne with debian , i thinks /var/log/Xorg.0.log looks very bad |
| 03:35.26 | squisher | Duuke, if nothing happens then it's not loaded |
| 03:35.42 | squisher | try a 'modprobe nvidia' |
| 03:35.43 | Duuke | how do i load it |
| 03:36.10 | Duuke | FATAL: Module nvidia not found |
| 03:36.19 | linuxguy | whats the easiest way to do a thoroygh update to 4.0.r5? |
| 03:37.07 | jpinx | Iridos: I installed mozilla-mplayer, but I still can't play a .wmv in the browser |
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| 03:38.18 | jpinx | and when I type mplayer on teh cl - nothing happens. |
| 03:38.25 | Duuke | theat means i have to install nvidia-kernel-2.6.18-6-686 - NVIDIA binary kernel module for Linux 2.6.18-6-686 |
| 03:38.25 | Duuke | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:38.46 | squisher | Duuke, if your kernel version is 2.6.18-6-686, then yes |
| 03:38.54 | Duuke | it ist |
| 03:38.57 | Duuke | ( Operating System ) Linux 4.0 Kernel: 2.6.18-6-686, GNU/Linux | Xorg: 7.1.1 | IRC CLient: X-Chat v.2.6.8 |
| 03:39.04 | Duuke | -t |
| 03:39.06 | linuxguy | !update |
| 03:39.06 | dpkg | it has been said that update is apt-get update, grabs the Packages.gz files from their sources and refreshes the available packages. Use before an apt-get upgrade or before looking for stuff with apt-cache search. |
| 03:39.10 | squisher | go for it then, retry the modprobe afterwards |
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| 03:44.46 | Duuke | the install was ok but still same prob or have i forgot something |
| 03:45.06 | Iridos | jpinx, in the *browse*? |
| 03:45.24 | Iridos | oh... |
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| 03:46.04 | jpinx | Iridos: presumably - there is precious little to read about this. |
| 03:46.13 | dirkson | Hey all. I need to set up an audio/visual alarm to remind me of stuffs throughout the day. What a good program to do that? |
| 03:46.58 | Iridos | jpinx, read what the bot told you, btw |
| 03:47.14 | Iridos | also, mplayer is ... a long story |
| 03:47.16 | Iridos | !mplayer |
| 03:47.16 | dpkg | i guess mplayer is in Debian beginning with Etch. See README.Debian in the Debian package for details. You may want to use a player based on xine-lib or vlc instead. Unofficial packages are available on <debian-multimedia>. The Debian and mplayer FAQ is at http://people.debian.org/~mjr/mplayer.html, or http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/faq.html, http://wiki.multimedia.cx/?title=MPlayer_FAQ, #mplayer on irc.freenode.net |
| 03:47.27 | DIFH-iceroot | dirkson: sunbird (its a calendar program) |
| 03:47.56 | dirkson | DIFH-iceroot: I guess that'll work. I think it might be a touch heavy for my purposes. But I'll give it a go. |
| 03:48.16 | DIFH-iceroot | dirkson: or something like knotice |
| 03:48.24 | squisher | dirkson, you can try orage |
| 03:48.51 | Iridos | dirkson, "birthday", if it was "throughout the year" :) |
| 03:49.00 | dirkson | Iridos: Hah : ) |
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| 03:49.09 | dirkson | Awesome. That gives me a ton of stuff to try out. Thanks |
| 03:49.19 | Iridos | dirkson, "apt-cache search alarm"? |
| 03:49.30 | Iridos | THAT gives you a ton of stuff to try, actually |
| 03:49.48 | Iridos | ...including an xmms plugin to use xmms as an alarm clock |
| 03:49.53 | squisher | Iridos, heh, not that much actually |
| 03:50.14 | Iridos | squisher, 10-20 are enough if you want to try them all :) |
| 03:50.21 | jpinx | Iridos: yea - I see the dmm thing. It's my next option after I remove all this if it doesn't work. |
| 03:50.45 | Iridos | jpinx, no need to remove... the packages normally replace each other |
| 03:51.04 | Iridos | jpinx, and you need the codecs package for wmv (I'd think) |
| 03:51.31 | jpinx | ubuntu seem to have mplayer in firefox working. |
| 03:51.42 | Iridos | I also had that |
| 03:51.47 | Iridos | it sucks pretty much... |
| 03:52.00 | Iridos | well, *sometimes* t's nice |
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| 03:52.24 | Iridos | but generally it's a nuisance to have sounds/movies just starting to play like that |
| 03:52.47 | squisher | I agree with Iridos, because if I recall correctly there also were no controls to control the video easily |
| 03:53.38 | Iridos | that's no problem, the usual mplayer keys work |
| 03:54.00 | Iridos | it's more like, you open a page and TADAA, your sound was too loud and it starts greeting you |
| 03:54.02 | Iridos | gah |
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| 03:55.34 | cataska | how can i uncompress .hqx file ? |
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| 03:58.22 | squisher | cataska, usually if an 'apt-cache seach <foo>' doesn't give you any hits, then just give it a shot with google '<foo> linux' |
| 03:59.15 | Iridos | cataska, you might try unzip, unp and p7zip ... but normally I'd think it would be mentioned in the package description |
| 04:00.08 | Iridos | cataska, http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-user@lists.debian.org/msg210238.html |
| 04:00.59 | cataska | Iridos: thx, let me try... |
| 04:02.48 | jpinx | Iridos: mplayer in mozilla is just not working for me. It's installed and showing, but the movie is just a flash of a few milliseconds. |
| 04:03.40 | jpinx | Iridos: and for the record - I had to remove mozilla-totem |
| 04:04.14 | jpinx | Err - totem-mozilla |
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| 04:09.26 | tinden | Hello. |
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| 04:19.57 | Iridos | !greet tinden |
| 04:19.57 | dpkg | Bonjour, tinden |
| 04:20.11 | Iridos | doesn't do _anything_ himself anymore |
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| 04:22.08 | tinden | Hey! I thought my chat client wasn't working. Bonjour, dpkg. |
| 04:22.34 | tinden | Greetings Iridos! |
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| 04:23.25 | tinden | Could someone please answer a question about Debian for me? |
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| 04:25.26 | Iridos | only if you ask it |
| 04:25.31 | Iridos | and someone knows the answer |
| 04:25.43 | Iridos | or they have psychic abilities |
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| 04:28.09 | tinden | Sorry, I was busy in another window. Here goes: I installed Debian Etch using Guided with LVM and encryption. When the system boots, I get a message, repeated twice, which says something along the lines of "volume group debian not found". After the message, I get the LUKS passphrase prompt, and then the system seems to boot OK. Question: Is this message normal, a bug, anything to worry about? |
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| 04:29.31 | Iridos | is blissfully unaware about lvm |
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| 04:31.02 | tinden | I see. I've been googling for help, but can't locate anything useful. |
| 04:31.08 | lawstudent1 | i need to run some .jar files. i need to use the java command. i tried to apt-get install java but i says "couldn't find package java". pls advise. |
| 04:32.10 | Iridos | tinden, *shrug* as long as everything works, I'm normally ignoring *any* messagge :) you can "/msg dpkg lvm" for more faqs/howtos/information |
| 04:32.26 | Iridos | but I doubt you'll find the answer to your question |
| 04:32.58 | Iridos | now, if you were this guy, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=329780 , you should ask :) |
| 04:33.15 | dmoerner | tinden, not a problem as far as i know |
| 04:33.40 | pickcoder | tinden: did you go back and forth in the LVM config and make changes |
| 04:34.49 | Akuw | when i use touch with -t opcion, how can i specify date ? |
| 04:35.23 | pickcoder | man touch |
| 04:36.01 | tinden | dmoerner, I also saw this behavior with Ubuntu. I'm assuming that is just the lvm script running from init.d before the encrypted devices are unlocked, therefore not found. After the passphrase, they are found and reported. I seem to recall reading somewhere that this was a bug, but not serious. Can't remember for sure. I just installed using the default settings. Didn't change anything that I know of. |
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| 04:37.00 | dmoerner | tinden, well obviously it can't read from init.d as that's encrypted. i presume that something happens in the initramfs prior to the triggering of the dm hook that causes that error |
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| 04:39.32 | tinden | dmoerner, do you know if deleting the initrd.img and then recreating it using update-initramfs -c -k `uname -r` on an encrypted system will cause any problems? |
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| 04:39.56 | dmoerner | tinden, i don't think it will |
| 04:40.01 | dmoerner | might as well back it up to be sure |
| 04:40.12 | tinden | OK. |
| 04:40.48 | tinden | Anyone have any idea how close Lenny is to release? |
| 04:41.04 | pickcoder | look at the RC bugs |
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| 04:41.43 | pickcoder | down to 179 right now |
| 04:41.49 | Makazei | Anyone know how to mount a thumb drive? Can't find squat in the CLI. The GUI sees it plugged in and I know the kernel supports it, but I can't view the contents. |
| 04:42.09 | pickcoder | Makazei: fdisk -l |
| 04:42.13 | pickcoder | see what's there |
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| 04:44.25 | tinden | 179. Looks like they lost a little ground recently. 1 closed, 4 opened. That's got to be frustrating. :'( |
| 04:45.10 | tinden | Getting closer, though. |
| 04:47.31 | GhostlyDeath | LENNY!? |
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| 04:50.22 | Makazei | pickcoder: Thank you! Didn't realize it would see it as a scsi drive. Thank you. |
| 04:50.23 | dmoerner | the real count is much lower than that |
| 04:51.01 | pickcoder | I thought the "concerning the next release" number considered exclusions |
| 04:51.05 | dmoerner | http://blog.schmehl.info/ |
| 04:51.08 | dmoerner | more like 65 |
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| 04:52.23 | tinden | 65, that's even better. I'm looking forward to the release. |
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| 04:53.56 | Iridos | !sing one step forward, two steps back |
| 04:53.56 | dpkg | sings "one step forward, two steps back" until all the glass whithin 1 mile bursts. |
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| 04:58.24 | tinden | Good night my friends. |
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| 05:14.25 | lawstudent | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:15.00 | pickcoder | ponders several sarcastic comments |
| 05:15.11 | pickcoder | add non-free to your deb and deb-src lines |
| 05:15.17 | pickcoder | main contrib non-free |
| 05:15.18 | pickcoder | etc |
| 05:15.28 | pickcoder | oh.. in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 05:15.33 | pickcoder | then do an aptitude update |
| 05:16.05 | lawstudent | pickcoder: thanks! |
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| 05:19.27 | lawstudent | which package is java in? |
| 05:19.30 | lawstudent | I need to run a java file |
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| 05:20.23 | erawfish | lawstudent: /msg dpkg install java |
| 05:21.14 | lawstudent | erawfish: ? |
| 05:21.19 | lawstudent | i don't get it |
| 05:21.58 | lawstudent | oh, i got it. |
| 05:22.44 | Iridos | who sais law students never get it... |
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| 05:22.58 | Iridos | it's probably because they're not lawyers yet :-P |
| 05:23.20 | lawstudent | i did that /msg command. which would be the lightest java app to run on my 2G Surf debian-eeepc? |
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| 05:26.55 | lawstudent | i see openjdk-6-jre-headless, saplevm, sun-java5-jre, and sun-java6-jre |
| 05:27.23 | Iridos | the gij ones never worked for me |
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| 05:28.04 | Iridos | use apt-cache show <packagename> to see the package description |
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| 05:28.38 | lawstudent | Iridos: thanks |
| 05:28.50 | Iridos | the sun-java5-jre, and sun-java6-jre are probably what you want |
| 05:29.12 | lawstudent | Iridos: what's the diff between sun-java5 and java6? |
| 05:29.19 | lawstudent | Or do I need both 5 and 6? |
| 05:30.30 | Iridos | *shrug* |
| 05:32.01 | lawstudent | if i need to run .jar files do i need java virtual machine? I ask because my 2G eeepc has only 200 mb of free space and installing sun-java6-jre will use 103mb!!! |
| 05:32.05 | Iridos | I seem to have the sun-java6 one |
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| 05:32.26 | Iridos | and sun-java6-plugin |
| 05:32.31 | Iridos | it will? |
| 05:32.39 | Iridos | how nice of sun |
| 05:33.18 | lawstudent | well, it's going to get 38.2MB of archive, but after the install, 103 MB of disk space will be used. |
| 05:33.25 | lawstudent | it wil install a lo of other packages |
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| 05:34.00 | Iridos | I would say it's what you need |
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| 05:34.15 | erawfish | lawstudent: you only need java version 6 |
| 05:35.18 | Iridos | yes, we had that :) |
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| 05:35.53 | Iridos | the -headless one doesn't have any graphics support |
| 05:36.02 | Iridos | which I would view as rather pointless |
| 05:37.56 | Iridos | lawstudent, with this amount of space you probably want to clean out /var/cache/apt/archives/ rather soon after every install |
| 05:39.23 | Iridos | and/or change /etc/apt/apt.conf (man 5 apt.conf) |
| 05:40.09 | lawstudent | Iridos: how do i clean out? just manually? |
| 05:40.15 | lawstudent | is there a command to run? |
| 05:40.39 | Iridos | there should be only *.deb packages in there, which you can just remove |
| 05:40.45 | lawstudent | got it |
| 05:41.14 | Iridos | they are handy if you want to go back to the last installed version, though |
| 05:41.48 | SerajewelKS | how much could i reasonably expect lvm2 to affect my performance if it's used for /home only, and not / |
| 05:41.52 | Iridos | and they use up 3.2G on my system right now :0 |
| 05:42.21 | Iridos | what is it, that everyone wants to use lvm these days? |
| 05:42.52 | SerajewelKS | Iridos: i'm everyone? cool |
| 05:43.16 | Iridos | SerajewelKS, you're one of many asking questions about it |
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| 05:43.36 | SerajewelKS | why do i sense a rant coming |
| 05:44.01 | Iridos | you sense incorrectly :) |
| 05:44.30 | SerajewelKS | ok good, because i don't really feel like justifying my use of lvm |
| 05:45.27 | Iridos | heh, but that's a cute idea, I could start to ask everyone to justify his use of lvm :) |
| 05:46.19 | SerajewelKS | for which you'd probably be flamed, and rightly so :P |
| 05:46.58 | Iridos | depends on how I do it |
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| 05:48.46 | Iridos | so are you expecting lvm to increase or decrease performance? |
| 05:48.54 | SerajewelKS | this is true, but if you phrase it like you did above, in such a way that sounds like "i am questioning your judgement, there must be some groupthink/lemming mentality going on here" i don't expect very friendly answers |
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| 05:49.05 | xlotlu | SerajewelKS: barely noticeable |
| 05:49.13 | SerajewelKS | for my setup i am expecting no increase, but hopefully no significant decrease |
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| 05:49.35 | SerajewelKS | i am using it to aggregate physical drives into a storage pool, but i am not striping |
| 05:49.48 | xlotlu | SerajewelKS: but why in the world would you want to use lvm for a single partition? |
| 05:49.54 | Iridos | har har |
| 05:50.00 | xlotlu | ^^ |
| 05:50.14 | Iridos | if I would ever say "lol", this would be it |
| 05:50.15 | SerajewelKS | xlotlu: partition or volume? |
| 05:51.20 | SerajewelKS | xlotlu: i have three lvm partitions across three drives, and two logical volumes in the one group i have set up |
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| 05:52.12 | SerajewelKS | Iridos: just saying, that's what i read into your statement |
| 05:52.39 | xlotlu | SerajewelKS: so you mean 3 physical volumes, and 2 LVs in a single VG |
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| 05:52.58 | b0nn | hi guys. My networking problem is back |
| 05:53.00 | SerajewelKS | xlotlu: yes, the physical volumes are not the only partitions on the drives but that's not really too important in this case |
| 05:53.01 | Gumby | hi all. I am logged into a desktop using ssh and I am trying to start an app using DISPLAY=:0 but it doesnt appear I have proper permissions to X via ssh. Does anyone know what I need to look into to fix this? Ive done it once before but I forget what it is |
| 05:53.20 | xlotlu | SerajewelKS: and i did mean a single partition, as in "/home" <-- for that single purpose you'd be better off with a linear "raid" |
| 05:53.30 | b0nn | I just changed the HDD's back to the old machine, and no amount of deleting files or shifting the NIC about gets it recognised |
| 05:53.53 | b0nn | Gumby: did you ssh -X or ssh -Y ? |
| 05:53.53 | SerajewelKS | xlotlu: i am using lvm more for the flexibility of replacing drives with new drives of different sizes |
| 05:54.05 | SerajewelKS | since i tend to do that every few years |
| 05:54.08 | Iridos | SerajewelKS, you were reading incorrectly, I was just wondering why this was one of the most common things today |
| 05:54.15 | Gumby | b0nn: Ive tried ssh -X yes. |
| 05:54.22 | b0nn | now when I dmesg| grep eth, no lines show up |
| 05:54.42 | Iridos | Gumby, it does appear, but on the local monitor of the machine |
| 05:54.49 | SerajewelKS | Iridos: because it frees people from having to worry about which physical device a certain volume is on, as well as allowing the creation of volumes larger than any one specific physical device |
| 05:54.52 | xlotlu | SerajewelKS: then at least you put lvm to good use :) i just dumped it tonight since i discovered partitionable raid arrays |
| 05:55.01 | Gumby | b0nn: but I am not trying to forward X, I want X to start locally on the machine I am connected to via ssh |
| 05:55.10 | Gumby | Iridos: no, that is the desired effect. |
| 05:55.25 | Gumby | Iridos: actually, it depends on what you mean by local |
| 05:55.32 | SerajewelKS | xlotlu: as long as it's not affecting performance i'm perfectly happy with it. in fact in the future i plan on getting two drives at once, the same size, so i can stripe |
| 05:55.34 | Iridos | heh, yeah :) |
| 05:55.52 | Gumby | Iridos: for example. I can ssh to the host and run mplayer /path/to/file and mplayer will open on the client site |
| 05:55.57 | Iridos | Gumby, should be fine then - do you get an error? |
| 05:56.08 | xlotlu | Gumby: the dreaded insecure xhost, or better xauth |
| 05:56.10 | Gumby | Iridos: what I want, is to start mplayer by doing DISPLAY=:0 mplayer /path/to/file and have it open on the host |
| 05:56.30 | SerajewelKS | xlotlu: i bring this up because my box has been running particularly slow and crashing every so often, while windows running on the same box seems pretty stable |
| 05:56.45 | Iridos | Gumby, should work just as you described |
| 05:56.46 | Gumby | Iridos: I do not seem to have permissions to use X on the host via ssh |
| 05:56.50 | Iridos | try with xterm, though |
| 05:57.01 | SerajewelKS | xlotlu: lvm is (of course) one of the things only happening on linux, so i wanted to rule it out. i'm pretty sure that the latest few kernel releases have been trash w/rt my hardware |
| 05:57.04 | Iridos | Gumby, same user? |
| 05:57.05 | xlotlu | SerajewelKS: slow and crashing... are you sure you run linux? :P |
| 05:57.08 | Gumby | xlotlu: yes, I think this is how I fixed it in the past. I just cant remember what I did :) |
| 05:57.17 | Gumby | Iridos: yes |
| 05:57.28 | Gumby | allthough, come to think of it..... that user might not be running X currently |
| 05:58.10 | SerajewelKS | xlotlu: firefox on windows performs several times faster than on linux, on the same box. this seems odd to me. |
| 05:58.10 | Gumby | checks |
| 05:58.10 | xlotlu | SerajewelKS: maybe there's a problem with some driver for the (s)ata controller... |
| 05:58.10 | Iridos | Gumby, there you are |
| 05:58.10 | SerajewelKS | xlotlu: that's one of my theories, but without kernel hacking or driver expertise there's little i can do to diagnose it on my own |
| 05:58.14 | Gumby | yep, there we go :) |
| 05:58.21 | Gumby | thanks for the shove in the right direction |
| 05:58.23 | SerajewelKS | xlotlu: i've done the regular stuff, check dmesg and syslog, none seem to indicate a problem of any sort |
| 05:58.32 | xlotlu | SerajewelKS: you borrow a mobo from a friend and run some tests.. |
| 05:58.36 | SerajewelKS | my only indication of a problem is an intermittent segfault early in the kernel boot process |
| 05:58.40 | xlotlu | SerajewelKS: so you get kernel oopses? |
| 05:58.55 | SerajewelKS | xlotlu: no. when there is a crash the system just hard locks, nothing interesting in syslog at all. |
| 05:59.17 | xlotlu | SerajewelKS: umm, did you rule out the video card? :) |
| 05:59.23 | SerajewelKS | 2.6.24 segfaults every couple of boots but runs fairly stable (if a bit slow) |
| 05:59.26 | xlotlu | thinks nvidia |
| 05:59.37 | SerajewelKS | 2.6.26 boots every time but freezes after a few hours of uptime |
| 05:59.43 | SerajewelKS | xlotlu: yes, i have an nvidia card |
| 05:59.51 | Iridos | SerajewelKS, anything unusual in dmesg output? |
| 06:00.04 | Iridos | like 5 million identical messages |
| 06:00.08 | SerajewelKS | Iridos: have you been reading? :P |
| 06:00.15 | SerajewelKS | 01:58 < SerajewelKS> xlotlu: i've done the regular stuff, check dmesg and syslog, none seem to indicate a problem of any sort |
| 06:00.21 | Iridos | hehe |
| 06:00.26 | Iridos | yes, I have been reading |
| 06:00.36 | Iridos | but have not proceeded that far yet |
| 06:00.40 | SerajewelKS | heh ok |
| 06:00.48 | SerajewelKS | i've checked every avenue i can think of for kernel diagnostic messages |
| 06:00.54 | SerajewelKS | none ever seem to indicate a problem |
| 06:01.02 | SerajewelKS | it's like the box was switched off at the point of the freeze |
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| 06:02.00 | SerajewelKS | xlotlu: i've had some issues in windows related to my gpu overheating, but the linux crashes don't seem to happen only when gaming, while that's the only time i've had any sort of freeze in windows |
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| 06:05.46 | Iridos | linux might use it differently, though... choose between "more {in}*efficiently" |
| 06:06.00 | SerajewelKS | right, i've considered that as well |
| 06:06.11 | SerajewelKS | i'm not ruling out the gpu or driver as a failing point |
| 06:07.32 | Iridos | SerajewelKS, apt-get install crashme? :) |
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| 06:10.20 | Iridos | there's also lcrash and crash, both seem to need lkcd, though |
| 06:10.44 | Iridos | and if you're not even getting an oops... but you don't know if that's the case because you're inside a gui when it happens |
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| 06:13.33 | SerajewelKS | hrm true |
| 06:13.45 | SerajewelKS | i could always get a serial cable and let my laptop monitor |
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| 06:22.03 | hatter | should i be able to dd a dvd ? |
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| 06:28.51 | adb_ | yes , i guess |
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| 06:29.09 | deadcat | i am still trying to mount a remove /home (with diff users (same uid)) on local machine so that i can edit dir/files own by me.... but seems like nfsv4 has some new features thats not letting me |
| 06:29.39 | adb_ | a remove ? |
| 06:29.52 | SerajewelKS | s/remove/remote/ ? |
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| 06:30.54 | adb_ | judd: versions nfs |
| 06:30.55 | judd | adb_: nfs: |
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| 06:39.56 | Duuke | whats better/safer Epiphany Webbrowser or Iceweasel ? |
| 06:40.53 | neoice | is there any sort of harddrive testing tools for drives without SMART? |
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| 06:41.27 | mhymn | Duuke: google? |
| 06:41.49 | Duuke | yes i heat if it ^^ |
| 06:41.54 | Duuke | r |
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| 06:50.03 | infinity2 | yo |
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| 07:09.24 | liable | !qotd0 |
| 07:09.24 | dpkg | from memory, qotd92 is <bobesponja> I'm running sid, not debian |
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| 07:09.55 | sandman | That's a good one right there. |
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| 07:13.42 | Agiofws | hello |
| 07:14.04 | SJrX | What's a good pptp client/server for linux hosts, I'd ideally like to tunnel certain traffic through it. |
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| 07:17.54 | Matson | what is the name of the application that does ping on each step in the traceroute? |
| 07:18.03 | SJrX | traceroute |
| 07:18.09 | SJrX | ? |
| 07:18.16 | SJrX | I believe it's an option |
| 07:18.18 | SJrX | or nmap |
| 07:18.26 | Matson | but this one gives a history of connectivity to each step on the route |
| 07:18.55 | neoice | doesnt traceroute do that already? |
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| 07:19.25 | Matson | this one keeps running |
| 07:19.41 | Matson | and give you an indication of which point you're losing packets |
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| 07:19.49 | neoice | while [ 1 ] do; traceroute; done |
| 07:19.51 | Matson | I only used it once and can't remeber the name now |
| 07:20.06 | Matson | it is not traceroute, ping, or nmap |
| 07:20.24 | neoice | some networks dont allow pings, so I'd imagine the tool to be only effective in some situations |
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| 07:21.28 | Sling | Matson : mtr |
| 07:22.11 | Matson | Sling: THANK YOU! |
| 07:22.14 | Matson | thats it |
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| 07:26.59 | neoice | whoa, this tool is RAD |
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| 07:31.31 | MrWGW-cc | you know I hate to ask this again |
| 07:31.34 | MrWGW-cc | but I'm forgetful |
| 07:31.39 | MrWGW-cc | where do you guys keep your network configuration again? |
| 07:31.42 | MrWGW-cc | I always forget this |
| 07:31.51 | MrWGW-cc | its all I can do to remember /etc/sysconfig/blah on RHEL and friends |
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| 07:32.46 | mhymn | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:33.12 | MrWGW-cc | ty |
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| 07:38.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | enouf, haha! I managed to get direct rendering back without restarting X! (had started to close a lot of windows already, though) - the key was to install nvidia-kernel-2.6.18-6-486, which I (probably incorrectly) made my custom-made glx package depend on... |
| 07:38.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | so my old sins came to haunt me :) |
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| 07:40.33 | enouf | CutMeOwnThroat: heh ... bravo :-) |
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| 07:41.55 | enouf | how about bing? |
| 07:42.13 | bolt-work | good morning, vietnam |
| 07:42.16 | enouf | (vs mtr) /me goes looks |
| 07:42.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | (running a 2.6.18-6-k7 kernel, so there's no reason anything should depend on nvidia-2.6.18-6-k7-486) |
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| 07:42.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | bing? |
| 07:42.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh, you mean... wossname tulip? |
| 07:42.49 | enouf | yep |
| 07:42.58 | enouf | what? |
| 07:43.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | what, what? |
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| 07:44.30 | enouf | http://fgouget.free.fr/bing/bing_src-readme.shtml |
| 07:45.32 | enouf | DESCRIPTION |
| 07:45.32 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:45.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | hmm, is libGL.so the same as libGL.so.1? |
| 07:45.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | I see... I think I've even used bing a couple of years ago |
| 07:46.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | once... |
| 07:46.14 | enouf | nice - except; why oh why can't these weenies define the fucken thing!? |
| 07:47.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh dear, it all comes back |
| 07:47.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 is in libgl1-mesa-glx (and replaced by a different version from nvidia-glx) |
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| 07:47.59 | enouf | so i can remember it ... just like the fucktards who write tools like 'gtf' |
| 07:48.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | /usr/lib/libGL.so is a softlink to that file, but it's not in libgl1-mesa-glx, but in libgl1-mesa-dev |
| 07:48.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | argh |
| 07:48.20 | enouf | atleast cvt defines itself ; Cvt is a utility for calculating VESA Coordinated Video Timing modes. |
| 07:48.39 | patrick-1 | hey all, ive got a Problem! ive assembled an md raid1 including one HD and one missing device.. now i want to copy stuff from another HD to the md raid but i cannot mount the raid with any livecd.. |
| 07:48.43 | patrick-1 | any idea? |
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| 07:49.42 | enouf | patrick-1: you don't mount the raid, iirc, not yet - see /usr/share/doc/mdadm/* |
| 07:50.08 | bolt-work | patrick-1: you need to first start the raid, then make a filesystem on it |
| 07:50.15 | enouf | (or, you built it wrong) |
| 07:50.40 | bolt-work | patrick-1: also, "cannot mount" is not very descriptive. you would get more help if we got your commands and error messages |
| 07:51.08 | enouf | patrick-1: do the livecds have mdadm support? |
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| 07:53.18 | enouf | (nevermind that actually - you're doing something wrong) ... oh crap, you mean copy stuff from disk3 onto a degraded (or not yet built) RAID1? disk1+disk2 ? |
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| 07:54.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | why don't you boot from the degraded raid anyways |
| 07:54.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | or, if it's just /home or something, why not from the non-raid system disk |
| 07:56.04 | patrick-1 | enouf: im not sure.. its an ubuntu 7 livecd |
| 07:56.12 | patrick-1 | is there one with mdadm supp? |
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| 08:02.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | how do I pack control.tar.gz data.tar.gz and debian-binary back into a .deb? |
| 08:02.49 | bolt-work | patrick-1: ask #ubuntu |
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| 08:12.09 | piko | Hi, I need to share a session with my fried who is unfortunately behind NAT (who needs some support) and I need some application that can be found on debian that permits to share the terminal. I know there is something, but I have forgotten what it was. Could anyone help? |
| 08:13.10 | bolt-work | have him open an ssh connection to you and forward whatever ports you need to connect back |
| 08:13.29 | bolt-work | or you could use reverse vnc or somesuch, but ssh is encrypted and nice and all |
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| 08:19.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | there was also... wossname |
| 08:19.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | wishes for a better memory |
| 08:21.13 | bolt-work | GEIL |
| 08:21.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | er |
| 08:21.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | terminal being the X session or just a shell? |
| 08:21.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | bolt-work, GEIL? |
| 08:21.42 | bolt-work | CutMeOwnThroat: better memory. |
| 08:21.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | heh |
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| 08:22.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | how many years until I can just buy some and plug it into my brain? |
| 08:22.16 | bolt-work | CutMeOwnThroat: I'd say about 10-15 |
| 08:22.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm |
| 08:22.48 | mac123 | HI i have server running debian etch ,it has two NICs with a 100Mb/s connection each but when i did a speed test i only got 100Mb/s can some tell me do i need to bridge the two network NICs to get the full 200Mb/s ..? |
| 08:22.50 | bolt-work | CutMeOwnThroat: wont be plugged into your brain, but you can probably get a HUD in your glasses and a console on your wrist |
| 08:23.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | is that before or after the huge global-warming catastrophe that wipes out humankind? |
| 08:23.19 | bolt-work | CutMeOwnThroat: it's assuming we fix that first |
| 08:23.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | why not? you just need an interface between soft and hard matter |
| 08:23.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | yeah, papa bush will do... |
| 08:23.47 | bolt-work | CutMeOwnThroat: because they keep forbidding all those kinds of experiments on humans. never could see why |
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| 08:24.17 | bolt-work | CutMeOwnThroat: it's not that you couldn't do it, but that it's not allowed to try |
| 08:24.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | but humans are a renewable resource! |
| 08:24.49 | bolt-work | so says i |
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| 08:26.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | mac123, #networking? I'm not sure how you can split traffic... |
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| 08:27.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | and I would think that one connection sticks to one route, normally |
| 08:27.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | so you should never get 200Mbps on a single connection |
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| 08:28.47 | mac123 | is there anything to check if the 2nd NIC port is connected becoz i am just getting 100Mb/s |
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| 08:31.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | mac123, ping -I ? |
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| 08:32.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | also ping -Q 0x08 might be interesting |
| 08:33.05 | mac123 | doin it |
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| 08:36.37 | fpcfan | the fpc maintainer send a mail to linux.debian.devel.release to replace fpc 2.2.0 by fpc 2.2.2 in lenny: http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.devel.release/browse_thread/thread/37d2e354852dc9c5# Is it desirable to create a bug report against fpc 2.2.0 in Lenny, saying that is has incorrect license information? |
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| 08:37.30 | fpcfan | Or whould that confuse the matter? I am worried that this mail the debian.devel.release is ignored |
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| 08:40.42 | mac123 | not working for me |
| 08:41.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | don't see how it could be confusing |
| 08:41.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | but it doesn't sound so tragic either(?) |
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| 08:42.00 | mac123 | i just get this ping -Q 0x08 |
| 08:42.01 | mac123 | Usage: ping [-LRUbdfnqrvVaA] [-c count] [-i interval] [-w deadline] |
| 08:42.01 | mac123 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:42.01 | mac123 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:42.01 | mac123 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:43.09 | troubled | mac123: you want "bonding" in the kernel |
| 08:43.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | of course |
| 08:43.19 | troubled | fpcfan: heya :) |
| 08:43.33 | jolt | mac123: You have to put in a destination there as well :) |
| 08:44.10 | mac123 | ping -Q 0x08 eth0 right ........? |
| 08:44.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | no |
| 08:44.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | and Ip? |
| 08:44.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | like in ping www.google.com |
| 08:44.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | all other options are optional |
| 08:44.48 | mac123 | ok got it |
| 08:44.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | *sigh* of course checkinstall only *seemed* to work |
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| 08:45.58 | mac123 | i found this from google mii-tool and it seems my 2nd nic is not connected eth0: negotiated 100baseTx-FD, link ok SIOCGMIIPHY on 'eth1' failed: Invalid argument |
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| 08:47.36 | neoice | if I'm using fglrx, is there a way to get OpenGL to NOT be Mesa? |
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| 08:49.27 | Eulex | neoice, eh? you mean that you want direct rendering but you're not getting it? mesa has nothing to do with that. |
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| 08:51.24 | mac123 | @CutMeOwnThroat i have 2nd HDD attached to the server its not formated it only shows 1st HDD is there any way to format the 2nd HDD so i will show me 2 HDDs when i do df -h |
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| 08:53.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | sure |
| 08:54.22 | fpcfan | troubled, hi |
| 08:54.43 | mac123 | so can u tell how to get started |
| 08:54.45 | troubled | fpcfan: 2.2.0 have some bugs does it? |
| 08:54.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | but I wouldn't know where to begin explaining about filesystems etc. etc. etc. |
| 08:55.22 | fpcfan | troubled, please read http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.devel.release/browse_thread/thread/37d2e354852dc9c5# |
| 08:55.42 | fpcfan | troubled, bugs is not the problem, the incorrect license information is |
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| 08:55.44 | troubled | clips |
| 08:55.48 | troubled | clicks* |
| 08:56.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | in short, you probably want to do something like mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdb1 (or /dev/hdb1) - but you should be 110% sure you get the right disk/partition |
| 08:56.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | !grounding |
| 08:56.12 | dpkg | Before asking in here or on debian-user, you should read the install guide, or if you have already installed, the debian reference, the apt howto. Ask me about <ig>, <docs>, <manuals>, <reference>, <fundamentals>, <newbiedoc>, <refcard>, <faq>, <unix lessons>, <general cli tutorial>. (e.g. in your irc client, type /msg dpkg reference) |
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| 08:59.26 | troubled | fpcfan: ah, probably shouldnt be a big problem |
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| 08:59.33 | mac123 | i did fdisk -l this is the output for 1st HDD Device Boot /dev/sda1 /dev/sda2 2d hdd is just untouched |
| 08:59.34 | mac123 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:59.43 | troubled | fpcfan: you try oftc yet in #debian or one of the mentor channels or something, yet? |
| 09:00.23 | fpcfan | no, I asked twice here for guidance |
| 09:00.29 | troubled | fpcfan: oftc is the "official" debian hangout. More likely to find someone active over there. Not that there aren't a few dd's in here as well |
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| 09:01.12 | troubled | worst case, try a mailing list or something again |
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| 09:01.27 | enouf | darnnit! does anyone know if taskset is still a viable option for setting a processor's cpu_affinity, or if schedtool supersedes it now? It appears it can still be used, and the man page refers to the same other man pages that man schedtool does (namely the sched_setscheduler one) |
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| 09:01.54 | enouf | the schedtool /doc/README seems dated even |
| 09:02.14 | fpcfan | troubled, what is the usual time to respond on a mail on debian.devel.release? |
| 09:02.28 | troubled | enouf: check lenny perhaps (assuming you are on etch), and see if one of them is missing? |
| 09:02.30 | enouf | and yet, etch has schedutils - lenny/sid has schedtool |
| 09:02.47 | enouf | troubled: good idea - but did that ;-) |
| 09:02.59 | troubled | fpcfan: no idea, never sent one to it. They may be discussing it already for all I know |
| 09:03.21 | troubled | enouf: well, if they both work...pick one :) |
| 09:03.30 | enouf | troubled: i guess i could poke about the changelogs some more ... ugh .. why doesn't schedtool docs even mention taskset? |
| 09:03.40 | fpcfan | troubled, do you think it is a good idea to create a bug report for it? |
| 09:03.42 | enouf | troubled: my thoughts precisely :-P |
| 09:04.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | mac123, these are not two harddisks, but two partitions on one harddisk |
| 09:04.37 | troubled | fpcfan: well, I don't know if you want to make too much noise about it. Its not like you dont have a bit of time before they release lenny :) |
| 09:05.15 | fpcfan | oh, when is its intended release date? |
| 09:05.21 | mac123 | wait it just paste output |
| 09:05.24 | troubled | "when its ready"? :) |
| 09:05.31 | mac123 | Disk /dev/sda: 320.0 GB, 320072933376 bytes |
| 09:05.31 | mac123 | 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders |
| 09:05.31 | mac123 | Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes |
| 09:05.32 | mac123 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:05.32 | mac123 | /dev/sda1 1 973 7815591 82 Linux swap / Solaris |
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| 09:05.38 | enouf | mac123: there isn't yet a valid partition table for fdisk to read yet - |
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| 09:05.40 | troubled | thats twice now... |
| 09:05.42 | enouf | you weenie |
| 09:05.45 | troubled | heh |
| 09:06.03 | fpcfan | I know Ubuntu left the package laying to long so it was skipped for the next release |
| 09:06.14 | fpcfan | I read Lenny is in freeze now. |
| 09:06.22 | enouf | ugh .. just as i'm typing to help someone, they go and act like a friggin idiot and flood |
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| 09:06.33 | troubled | fpcfan: bah, who uses ubuntube these days anyways? debian is where its at! ;) |
| 09:07.09 | fpcfan | from a lazarus/fpc point of view they are equal, yes: at least one release behind |
| 09:07.10 | troubled | fpcfan: ya, its in freeze, but I also don't know if this is a valid excuse to update or not |
| 09:07.57 | rvsjoen | how do I make an initial ramdisk after building a new kernel image using make-kpkg ? |
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| 09:08.17 | fpcfan | I don't want to make too much noise, just enough |
| 09:08.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | !paste |
| 09:08.25 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! |
| 09:08.26 | troubled | rvsjoen: man update-initramfs |
| 09:08.27 | enouf | rvsjoen: likely mkinitramfs-kpkg, or ... oh, yeah, update-initramfs |
| 09:08.43 | enouf | !stereo |
| 09:08.46 | rvsjoen | thank you |
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| 09:09.44 | pwk | hi guys, I want to make my debian server listen to a second IP address in addition to the one it already listens |
| 09:09.56 | enouf | rvsjoen: you do have initramfs-tools installed, yes? |
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| 09:10.15 | troubled | pwk: virtual ip? |
| 09:10.16 | enouf | listen? |
| 09:10.17 | petemc | pwk: you can add an entry for eth0:1 in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 09:10.34 | rvsjoen | enouf : yes |
| 09:11.23 | pwk | troubled, petemc i tried in interfaces, here is how it looks: http://pastebin.ca/1241455 |
| 09:11.50 | pwk | what happens is that with "ifconfig" everything looks good, but I cannot use the second (the .82) IP to ssh in, I get no response |
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| 09:12.15 | troubled | pwk: ssh probably isn't listening on it then |
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| 09:12.28 | troubled | pwk: can you ping it from another machine? |
| 09:12.40 | petemc | i add the gateway line for all addresses in my /27 |
| 09:12.50 | petemc | the same gateway... |
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| 09:13.13 | pwk | petemc, I tried adding the same gateway line first, but then I couldn't ssh in on *either* IP anymore |
| 09:13.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | did you ifup the new card? |
| 09:13.37 | petemc | pwk: what is you debian box connected to? |
| 09:13.40 | enouf | +virtual |
| 09:14.20 | pwk | Cueball|Away, i did /etc/init.d/network restart |
| 09:14.38 | pwk | petemc, it is in a data center, dunno if I understand your question |
| 09:14.50 | petemc | pwk: that answers it |
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| 09:15.34 | petemc | pwk: in any case, that works for me - have you double checked your provider has everything set up for you? |
| 09:16.10 | pwk | petemc, the IP I am trying to use is from annother pc on the same rack, so it should be available and everything |
| 09:16.59 | troubled | pwk: you mean you are trying to simultaneously use the ip of another machine on the network? |
| 09:18.03 | pwk | troubled, yes, I killed that other machine a few minutes ago of course |
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| 09:18.41 | troubled | pwk: if eth0:1 up? |
| 09:19.00 | pwk | ifconfig says it is already up |
| 09:19.22 | troubled | can you ping it remotely? |
| 09:19.24 | pwk | when I put the gateway line into the eth0:1 section too I get this when doing network restart: "Reconfiguring network interfaces...SIOCDELRT: No such process" |
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| 09:20.08 | pwk | and then I can't ssh in to either the .84 or the .82 address, but I can still ping .84, I can't even ping .82 (84 is the old, 82 the new) |
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| 09:20.31 | pwk | ok scrap that I can ssh into the .84, it just took ages |
| 09:20.38 | enouf | just curious, is apache{2} running? |
| 09:20.57 | enouf | ugh - see if avahi-deamon is running and kill it dead |
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| 09:21.17 | pwk | enouf, that directed at me? |
| 09:21.23 | enouf | yep |
| 09:21.37 | pwk | what has apache2 to do with anything? And what on earth is avahi-deamon ;) |
| 09:21.44 | enouf | pwk: side-effect of terminally long logins for ssh |
| 09:21.47 | pwk | there is apache2 running |
| 09:21.59 | pwk | i don't see any process containing "ava" |
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| 09:23.19 | enouf | well, the apache thing was a possible reference to maybe you need to run a2enmod, for a specific feature you want to implement (think bridging or bonding or whatever) - i told you why i mentioned avahi |
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| 09:24.17 | enouf | s/side-effect/symptom |
| 09:24.33 | pwk | http://pastebin.ca/1241462 |
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| 09:24.43 | pwk | here is the output of ifconfig and route -n |
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| 09:25.16 | pwk | note it says "eth0" for interface in the route output, dunno if that's ok (if the second line shouldn't have eth0:1 as interface?) |
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| 09:26.29 | pwk | also note that for eth0:1 there are no packets/collisions etc. stats, dunno if that is right either |
| 09:27.03 | petemc | there shouldnt be for the aliased interface |
| 09:27.30 | pwk | petemc, ok, so you say that output I paste looks like it should work? |
| 09:27.34 | petemc | yeah |
| 09:28.06 | pwk | ok, so I will go call my hoster again and have them make sure that they don't have managed switches or something where they don't allow the traffic to flow like it should now |
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| 09:28.18 | troubled | pwk: you have no default gw? |
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| 09:28.56 | petemc | a.b.c.81 |
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| 09:29.16 | troubled | why is it listed twice for eth0 I wonder |
| 09:29.26 | petemc | its 2 interfaces |
| 09:29.59 | pwk | " gateway 62.146.63.81" is listed twice in /etc/network/interfaces, I guess that's why |
| 09:30.10 | pwk | once for eth0 and once for eth0:1 |
| 09:30.33 | petemc | http://pastebin.ca/1241467 |
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| 09:31.40 | troubled | petemc: I take it that the aliased eth's don't show the eth0:0 .. eth0:n ? |
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| 09:31.47 | petemc | right |
| 09:31.58 | troubled | ah |
| 09:32.11 | troubled | can tell I dont use em much heh |
| 09:32.30 | troubled | shorewall doesn't agree with them fully it seems |
| 09:32.50 | petemc | with iptables, you specify the address, not the interfaces |
| 09:33.06 | petemc | so -d 1.2.3.4 , rather then -i eth0:1 |
| 09:33.14 | troubled | shorewall sets up its own weird stuff |
| 09:33.20 | petemc | its all iptables tho |
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| 09:33.57 | troubled | ya, but manually doing stuff in post/pre is a pita |
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| 09:35.00 | petemc | i just have one big script |
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| 09:35.06 | enouf | is both his ethX "Bcast:a.b.c.87" ok? Doesn't Bcast need to be |
| 09:35.12 | enouf | .255 ? |
| 09:35.22 | petemc | not for his /29 |
| 09:36.06 | frank0 | why the **** doesnt lftp support recursive get? |
| 09:36.18 | gsa10132 | hey guys.. have a problem with my new debian etch install.. I see my onboard sata-disks just fine during bootup.. they are connected to channel 2 and 3.. but once Debian is running there are no notion of them in /dev .. I see only sda1 (which is a sata-disk connected to a pci-controller card |
| 09:36.45 | gsa10132 | can anyone point me in the right direction? |
| 09:36.57 | alcohol | points left |
| 09:37.33 | enouf | petemc: ok, thanks |
| 09:38.06 | jolt | gsa10132: Maybe an old kernel on new hardware. Try with lenny boot media and see if it gets detected |
| 09:38.07 | jelly-home | frank0: sure it does, called "mirror" |
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| 09:40.24 | gsa10132 | the hardware isnt particularly new.. I had it running before the re-install.. strange.. |
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| 09:46.07 | gsa10132 | uname -r gives 2.6.18-6-686 .. isnt that the newest available? |
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| 09:47.09 | slicer_ | gsa10132: that an ancient kernel :) |
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| 09:47.45 | gsa10132 | well, still.. it worked on etch 4.0r3 :) |
| 09:48.18 | slicer_ | gsa10132: i'm using sarge with 2.6.26-1-686 |
| 09:48.21 | enouf | gsa10132: hrm, is the controller module being loaded for them? |
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| 09:49.04 | gsa10132 | enouf: Where would I find that information? Im not super savvy (like it isnt showing, right) |
| 09:49.04 | enouf | gsa10132: yours is latest officially supported one for Etch |
| 09:49.17 | busfahrer | I guess this gets asked often in here, but is there a *rough* ETA on the Lenny release? |
| 09:49.20 | enouf | dmesg for one |
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| 09:49.49 | gsa10132 | enouf: what would the controller module be called? |
| 09:50.02 | enouf | gsa10132: how are your /etc/fstab entries? is it perhaps an issue of /hda vs /sda device naming? |
| 09:50.10 | slicer_ | gsa10132: what hardware? |
| 09:50.12 | enouf | lspci -nn |
| 09:50.22 | enouf | post your controller info |
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| 09:50.58 | enouf | you mean during POST you see them? |
| 09:50.59 | gsa10132 | I only see one of three sata-disks in /dev .. sda1 which is connected to my pci sata controller card |
| 09:51.05 | gsa10132 | enouf: yeah |
| 09:52.27 | gsa10132 | theres a lot of stuff coming from lspci -nn .. is it okay to flood it all here? |
| 09:52.39 | enouf | NO |
| 09:52.46 | enouf | !paste |
| 09:52.46 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! |
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| 09:54.33 | troubled | gsa10132: not if debhelper has anything to say about it ;) |
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| 09:56.03 | pwk | ok thanks guys, seems to work now |
| 09:56.14 | pwk | switches were just a bit slow to pick it up I guess |
| 09:56.18 | johnny66 | I have problems connecting to my samba share - http://pastebin.com/m1d9b2c62 |
| 09:56.20 | pwk | bows out |
| 09:58.09 | gsa10132 | hehe, figured.. hmm.. found some lines that doesnt sound too good.. |
| 09:58.57 | gsa10132 | http://paste.debian.net/20352/ |
| 09:59.59 | enouf | gsa10132: lsmod | grep sata_via |
| 10:00.26 | gsa10132 | no output from that |
| 10:00.42 | enouf | gsa10132: modprobe sata_via |
| 10:00.56 | gsa10132 | nothing |
| 10:00.57 | enouf | gsa10132: run; update-pciids |
| 10:01.02 | enouf | gsa10132: lsmod | grep sata_via |
| 10:01.11 | enouf | nothing == success |
| 10:02.39 | gsa10132 | lsmod | grep sata_via <--- gave some output |
| 10:02.48 | gsa10132 | sata_via 10052 0 |
| 10:02.56 | enouf | gsa10132: good |
| 10:03.09 | gsa10132 | libata 89396 2 sata_via, sata_sil |
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| 10:03.54 | gsa10132 | run; update-pciis <--- how do I execute that? |
| 10:04.08 | Appiah | update-pciis |
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| 10:04.42 | gsa10132 | okay, did that |
| 10:04.44 | enouf | gsa10132: check dmesg | tail (now, to see system updates) .. just run it (update-pciids) in a terminal |
| 10:05.15 | enouf | gsa10132: pgrep udevd |
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| 10:05.46 | gsa10132 | 1446 was the output there |
| 10:05.58 | gsa10132 | pgrep udevd --> 1446 |
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| 10:06.19 | enouf | ok - ls -l /dev/sd* |
| 10:06.50 | gsa10132 | just /dev/sda and /dev/sda1 |
| 10:07.09 | enouf | gsa10132: 1st do this; echo 'sata_via' >> /etc/modules |
| 10:07.09 | johnny66 | Any ideas? |
| 10:07.25 | enouf | gsa10132: run this; /sbin/MAKEDEV |
| 10:07.53 | gsa10132 | done |
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| 10:08.38 | enouf | check ls /dev/sd* again |
| 10:08.54 | gsa10132 | no change |
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| 10:09.30 | gsa10132 | dang, I gotta leave.. wife and daughter are ready to go.. I'll be back later on.. if nothing else I'll just try to re-install with another version |
| 10:09.42 | enouf | huh? |
| 10:09.59 | slicer_ | gsa10132: just install lenny :) |
| 10:10.03 | enouf | if you reinstall anything, i will shoot you |
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| 10:10.23 | enouf | i will hunt you down like a dog and shoot you :-) |
| 10:10.46 | enouf | just fucken reboot already if you are that lazy |
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| 10:11.08 | enouf | and check your /etc/fstab for bad entries |
| 10:11.09 | slicer_ | install sarge |
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| 10:11.22 | enouf | suck my smelly hairy ass you weenie |
| 10:11.22 | slicer_ | or try ubuntu |
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| 10:11.34 | lc0035234 | hello, i just installed debian and whenever i start to linux it shows an error, unable to load graphic shit and I get the command line |
| 10:11.36 | enouf | :-) |
| 10:11.48 | lc0035234 | i installe dagain and the same problem |
| 10:11.51 | enouf | but really - slicer_ stop giving out stupid advice please |
| 10:12.00 | slicer_ | enouf: ok |
| 10:12.38 | slicer_ | lc0035234: we need more info, |
| 10:12.49 | lc0035234 | what to do, using VMware, can I login to my linux distro ? |
| 10:13.17 | lc0035234 | so i can remember the errors.. I have only one pc. |
| 10:13.20 | slicer_ | lc0035234: i dont use vmware for anything other than checking a burn :) |
| 10:14.01 | enouf | grep '(EE)' /var/log/Xorg.0.log for starters |
| 10:14.12 | lc0035234 | slicer_: I want to be able to run the linux while I am in vista so I can ask/google the erros |
| 10:14.23 | lc0035234 | how is this accomplished |
| 10:14.28 | enouf | ugh, see #vmware |
| 10:14.48 | slicer_ | you can do it, but i cant tell you. and it is unrelated to the debian |
| 10:15.37 | slicer_ | lc0035234: or you could run ex2fs and import xorg.log |
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| 10:15.57 | enouf | well, it depends - but if debian is indeed installed fully and correctly, running in vmware will have some caveats, but .. |
| 10:16.19 | slicer_ | lc0035234: http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs-old.htm |
| 10:17.03 | gsa10132 | enouf: cool, I wouldnt want to be hunted down.. I'll just keep trying then, no re-install :)( |
| 10:17.18 | enouf | lc0035234: /msg dpkg pastebinpipe |
| 10:18.04 | enouf | gsa10132: bingo - does lscpi -nn now not show the three "unknown" it had said? |
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| 10:19.22 | krzd | hi |
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| 10:19.44 | krzd | how do i install debian sid via the netinst image without isntalling etch or lenny first? |
| 10:20.04 | slicer_ | krzd: you can't |
| 10:20.20 | gsa10132 | enouf: I gotta head out.. I'll look you up as soon as Im back! Thousands thanks so far! |
| 10:20.38 | bzrk | krzd you could edit the image to include the sid apt and autoupdate after install |
| 10:20.46 | bzrk | but there is no sid image |
| 10:20.55 | lc0035234 | here is my /var/log/Xorg.0.log: http://rafb.net/p/Xf3shd61.html |
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| 10:21.04 | krzd | slicer_: there stands (http://wooledge.org/~greg/sidfaq.html#3) It may also be possible to install sid packages instead of testing packages if you're using a net install from the testing branch. This is not supported, but if you want to try it, you're free to do so. It's your machine, after all. Just don't cry if it breaks. |
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| 10:22.21 | krzd | maybe i just don't understand the sentences correctly, cause i'm a german... |
| 10:22.38 | bzrk | krzd there is no official wayand the by far easiest way is to upgrade from testing |
| 10:22.57 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:22.58 | bzrk | install a minimal testing and upgrade |
| 10:23.41 | krzd | bzrk: if i install the minimal testing and upgrade, do i get all standard programs of sid or do i have to isnall all manually |
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| 10:24.07 | slicer_ | krzd: manually |
| 10:24.24 | slicer_ | just apt-get, gnome, kde, gdm |
| 10:24.31 | slicer_ | or xface? |
| 10:24.39 | lc0035234 | what about this error: no screen found ? |
| 10:24.53 | krzd | but its also possible to isntall a full testing and then to upgrade? |
| 10:25.03 | slicer_ | yeah |
| 10:25.05 | bzrk | sure |
| 10:25.24 | lc0035234 | i swear this is dumber than MS error "no keyboard.. Press F1 to continue" |
| 10:25.29 | krzd | ok, many thanks, it's to first distribution support i've ever had ;-) |
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| 10:25.59 | slicer_ | krzd: why do want to use sid anyway, whats wrong with lenny? |
| 10:26.48 | slicer_ | lc0035234: try using the vesa driver, and try to get X. then trouble shoot it from there |
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| 10:27.19 | krzd | i want to have a debian with the newest software, i've got an other system with stable software so i want use it to try the new software |
| 10:27.32 | slicer_ | oh |
| 10:28.14 | krzd | or do you mean sid ist jast too unstable? |
| 10:28.20 | lc0035234 | slicer_: what is "vesa" dirver ? |
| 10:28.53 | enouf | gsa10132: you also need 'sata_promise' for this; VIA Technologies, Inc. Unknown device [1106:3371] (rev 01), however, i have a sneaking suspicion that device is misreported as a VGA controller because you setup some Mainboard raid (would need dmraid in linux likely to access it) in Windows/BIOS, and using that |
| 10:28.55 | slicer_ | krzd: dunno, i know lenny is stable |
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| 10:29.09 | slicer_ | lenny works :) |
| 10:29.20 | krzd | slicer_: so i think i will try lenny first and then i can upgrade to sid if i want to.... |
| 10:29.21 | slicer_ | lc0035234: edit xorg.conf |
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| 10:29.30 | krzd | for now, i have to go, bye and thx |
| 10:29.37 | slicer_ | krzd: good idea, you cant fail then |
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| 10:31.14 | slicer_ | lc0035234: xorg.conf , Section "Device" Driver "vesa" , ctrl X and y |
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| 10:31.53 | slicer_ | lc0035234: nano xorg.conf* Section "Device" Driver "vesa" , ctrl X and y |
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| 10:34.09 | enouf | gsa10132: and this device appears to be some kind of security thing? (from http://pciids.sourceforge.net/v2.2/pci.ids) "6364 CN896/VN896/P4M900 Security Device" (under 1106 for VIA) |
| 10:34.54 | enouf | 34. 00:00.6 Host bridge [0600]: VIA Technologies, Inc. Unknown device [1106:6364] <--that device |
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| 10:38.14 | enouf | gsa10132: that seems to be an older board? if so, and you can't get 2.6.18-6 working properly, upgrade to etchnhalf .24, or even etch-backports .26 kernel. Even my .26 on Lenny/Sid is not reporting anything for those other two ( [1106:6364] and [1106:3371] ) |
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| 10:42.59 | Rv | hi |
| 10:43.07 | Rv | where is lpq command for cups? |
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| 10:44.40 | bzrk | Rv cups-bsd |
| 10:44.46 | bzrk | for lenny at least |
| 10:45.16 | ronr | how do I calculate a netmaks like 10.120.0.0/255.248.0.0 to something with just one number after the /, like 10.120.120.0/24 |
| 10:45.39 | Rv | bzrk, thx |
| 10:46.25 | bzrk | ronr by counting binary |
| 10:46.27 | enouf | lc, yo, looks like you have a GeForce 8400M GS |
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| 10:47.03 | enouf | !cidr |
| 10:47.03 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, cidr is Classless Inter-Domain Routing, see RFC1517/1518/1519/1520. |
| 10:47.11 | slicer_ | enouf: he's quit, i told him to load the vesa driver |
| 10:47.11 | enouf | heh |
| 10:47.41 | enouf | dpkg: cidr is also See http://www.sput.nl/software/cidr-routing.html maybe |
| 10:47.41 | dpkg | enouf: okay |
| 10:47.58 | enouf | ronr: ^^^^^^ |
| 10:48.31 | fireba11 | ronr : /24 means a mask of 24 bits :-D |
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| 10:49.13 | enouf | 255.248.0.0 == /13 |
| 10:49.23 | ronr | enouf: thx! |
| 10:49.31 | bzrk | enouf ^^ |
| 10:49.36 | fireba11 | ronr : calculate the binary or search for the lazy-people-tools :-D |
| 10:49.43 | OpenTokix | ipcalc? |
| 10:49.56 | fireba11 | enouf : neat i actually guessed it right :-) |
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| 10:50.04 | DASPRiD | hi, in which package is libwx_gtk2_adv-2.8.so.0 included? |
| 10:50.21 | bzrk | DASPRiD packages.debian.org |
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| 10:50.25 | enouf | thank that site author/maintainer, i suck ass at networking ;-) |
| 10:50.26 | bzrk | or apt-cache search |
| 10:51.04 | DASPRiD | bzrk, nothing found |
| 10:51.21 | enouf | !tell DASPRiD -about apt-file |
| 10:52.09 | slicer_ | enouf: if lc, comes back and his X dont start i know why, i told to exit nano ctrl X and then y, i forgot it's just ctrl and enter. |
| 10:52.35 | slicer_ | see if he knows, incase you help him out |
| 10:52.41 | enouf | dpkg: cidr is also and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIDR |
| 10:52.41 | dpkg | enouf: okay |
| 10:53.07 | DASPRiD | enouf, hm, its not in any debian package it seems |
| 10:53.25 | enouf | !find libwx_gtk2_adv-2.8.so |
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| 10:53.48 | bzrk | DASPRiD try symlinking it to libwx_gtk2u_adv-2.8.so.0.4.0 which is in libwxgtk2.8-0 |
| 10:54.01 | nocte | hi, does someone know a tool to test graphic card under linux ? |
| 10:54.08 | enouf | right - was going to mention symlinks |
| 10:54.19 | DASPRiD | bzrk, i try that, w8 |
| 10:54.20 | enouf | nocte: test? |
| 10:54.31 | nocte | sorry |
| 10:54.34 | enouf | DASPRiD: hold your water one moment |
| 10:54.35 | nocte | *graphic card |
| 10:54.53 | enouf | you spelled that correctly? |
| 10:54.58 | enouf | already |
| 10:55.12 | DASPRiD | ? |
| 10:55.13 | enouf | test for what? |
| 10:55.23 | nocte | graphic card performances |
| 10:55.30 | enouf | DASPRiD: for dpkg to return |
| 10:55.49 | enouf | or just install the pkg bzrk mentioned |
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| 10:56.08 | DASPRiD | i have that package installing and doing the symlink |
| 10:56.15 | DASPRiD | do have have to do anything after creating the symlink? |
| 10:56.21 | enouf | nocte: well .. heh glxinfo isn't a benchmark :-P |
| 10:56.34 | enouf | erm, glxgears i mean |
| 10:56.51 | enouf | nocte: do you want to see a comparable list? |
| 10:57.09 | enouf | nocte: i mean, do you have 100s of cards to compare to one another? |
| 10:57.41 | enouf | thinks he bound up dpkg .. :-( |
| 10:58.03 | DASPRiD | enouf, symlink is created in /usr/lib, but i still get error while loading shared libraries: libwx_gtk2_adv-2.8.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 10:58.33 | enouf | you want to see /etc/ld.so.conf and friends maybe .. depends |
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| 10:58.59 | enouf | or export LD_LIBRARY_PATH= |
| 10:59.10 | DASPRiD | uh oh, i bet i know the reason, probably... |
| 10:59.21 | DASPRiD | the program is a 32bit binary |
| 10:59.25 | DASPRiD | while my system is 64bit |
| 10:59.35 | nocte | well, grxgears does just show three roating gears |
| 10:59.37 | nocte | ;/ |
| 10:59.41 | nocte | *glxgears |
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| 11:00.02 | enouf | !glxgears |
| 11:00.02 | dpkg | i heard glxgears is an opengl demo. it is not a good benchmark, in fact in recent versions of glxgears you must pass it the -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark flag in order to get it to report fps information. now located in the mesa-utils package. |
| 11:00.15 | Tenkawa | heheheh |
| 11:00.24 | Tenkawa | hadnt seen that update |
| 11:00.29 | Tenkawa | thats quite funny |
| 11:01.02 | bzrk | DASPRiD no, the package is included in AMD64 as well |
| 11:01.16 | Tenkawa | tries to determine what to do on his newly built xen behemoth today |
| 11:01.18 | bzrk | as enouf said, try ld.so.conf or run ldconfig |
| 11:01.31 | DASPRiD | did both |
| 11:01.44 | bzrk | what does ldd say? |
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| 11:02.01 | Tenkawa | hell yes its friday :) |
| 11:02.23 | DASPRiD | bzrk, http://nopaste.dasprids.de/2cff203249.html |
| 11:03.08 | Tenkawa | DASPRiD: whats the problem |
| 11:03.12 | Tenkawa | missed the beginning |
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| 11:03.36 | DASPRiD | Tenkawa, the binary cant find the libwx_gtk2_adv libs |
| 11:04.04 | Tenkawa | if you ldd the binary does it show the missing reference |
| 11:04.15 | DASPRiD | Tenkawa, http://nopaste.dasprids.de/2cff203249.html |
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| 11:04.22 | bzrk | DASPRiD install libwxbase2.8-0 as well, you miss that too it seems |
| 11:04.32 | enouf | DASPRiD: dpkg -L libwxbase2.8-0 |
| 11:04.42 | nocte | so, except glxgears is there any other tester of graphic ard perf ? |
| 11:04.43 | enouf | oh, he didn't indtall that? |
| 11:04.50 | DASPRiD | bzrk, "i A libwxbase2.8-0" |
| 11:04.50 | bzrk | looks like it at least |
| 11:04.51 | DASPRiD | its installed |
| 11:04.55 | bzrk | hmhm |
| 11:04.56 | Tenkawa | ahhhh |
| 11:04.56 | phorce1 | woohoo 5000+ fps |
| 11:04.58 | Tenkawa | just a sec |
| 11:05.02 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'libwx_gtk2_adv-2.8.so' returned no results. |
| 11:05.03 | enouf | nocte: i forget .. |
| 11:05.19 | enouf | what binary? |
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| 11:05.36 | nocte | enouf: lol :) |
| 11:05.44 | Tenkawa | did you compile those by hand? |
| 11:05.58 | DASPRiD | i'm out for 20 mins, bbiaf |
| 11:06.01 | Tenkawa | because they definitely arent in any of the package cache I searched |
| 11:06.11 | enouf | dpkg: thanks for trying, we already kind of resolved it :-) |
| 11:06.11 | dpkg | my pleasure, enouf |
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| 11:07.54 | enouf | nocte: maybe see-> * Dga - the "-b" option measures CPU/video memory bandwidth http://lbs.sourceforge.net/ |
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| 11:08.47 | Tenkawa | looks like his libwx names are wrong |
| 11:08.51 | Tenkawa | or "different" |
| 11:09.20 | Tenkawa | they show up like /usr/lib/libwx_gtk2u_adv-2.8.so |
| 11:09.32 | Tenkawa | in the debian packages.... instead of /usr/lib/libwx_gtk2_adv-2.8.so |
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| 11:09.54 | enouf | welp "xbench" seems dead |
| 11:10.07 | enouf | try compiz and rotating cubes :-P |
| 11:10.27 | OpenTokix | rotated enouf's cubes |
| 11:10.43 | jolt | rotates OpenTokix |
| 11:10.47 | enouf | teaches OpenTokix the shell game |
| 11:11.01 | Tenkawa | falls asleep |
| 11:11.04 | Tenkawa | heheh |
| 11:11.18 | OpenTokix | jolt: =) |
| 11:11.31 | phorce1 | heh -- 'apt-cache search benchmark' returns "pyscrabble" in the results. Testing the speed of braincell deterioration. |
| 11:11.38 | Tenkawa | phorce1: omg |
| 11:11.40 | Tenkawa | haahaa |
| 11:11.45 | nocte | enouf: hmmm k i'll check right now |
| 11:11.46 | nocte | ty |
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| 11:13.48 | enouf | nocte: if you're concerned with which card vs another, because you want to buy - look here - especially towards the bottom "Relative Performance Ranking" |
| 11:13.49 | enouf | http://users.erols.com/chare/video.htm |
| 11:15.21 | phorce1 | looks at the cards that cost $200+ today. When new generations drive those under $50 he buys a new card |
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| 11:16.10 | DASPRiD | enouf, Tenkawa re |
| 11:16.42 | DASPRiD | Tenkawa, i created symlinks yet, no success |
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| 11:16.56 | enouf | ^fives phorce1 |
| 11:17.00 | enouf | !sns |
| 11:17.00 | dpkg | [sns syndrome] a serious disorder otherwise known as Shiny New Shite Syndrome usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. Slashdot readers are more likely than others to contract the condition. |
| 11:17.01 | Tenkawa | DASPRiD: intriguing |
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| 11:17.21 | Tenkawa | gotta get ready to go to work... bbiaf |
| 11:17.22 | nocte | kk |
| 11:17.30 | enouf | DASPRiD: what are you trying to do? |
| 11:17.34 | enouf | !wayttd |
| 11:17.34 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do? |
| 11:17.38 | phorce1 | DASPRiD: you re-run ldconfig after adding symlinks |
| 11:17.41 | phorce1 | ? |
| 11:17.49 | nocte | enouf : do you know any tool also to test de I/O of USB port ? in term of performance ? |
| 11:17.51 | DASPRiD | phorce1, yes |
| 11:17.54 | OpenTokix | What do I need to add to get 3d on a intel i8xx-card? |
| 11:17.58 | OpenTokix | to the xorg? |
| 11:18.09 | phorce1 | should try to take a 30 minute nap before he turns the phones back on |
| 11:18.12 | OpenTokix | I usualy run nvidia hw, but it seems broken and I run on the onboard-gfx now |
| 11:18.17 | enouf | nocte: well, the port is not the device, and more based on HUB or Host Controller |
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| 11:19.23 | jelly | OpenTokix: which debian release? |
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| 11:19.35 | OpenTokix | jelly: unstable |
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| 11:20.05 | jelly | just install libgl1-mesa-dri and leave xorg.conf on the mostly-empty default |
| 11:20.07 | enouf | nocte: you check via device's throughput ;-) you transfer files. use dd, or cp, or whatever (which is more real world, since it involves the FS and/or block layer,) - but for pure interfaces tests see/find the 'dt' |
| 11:20.09 | phorce1 | nocte: hook a fast hard drive to an adapter and use one of the disk benchmarks to what you can shove through USB |
| 11:20.11 | enouf | tool |
| 11:20.31 | jelly | loot! |
| 11:20.39 | DASPRiD | w00t! |
| 11:21.36 | enouf | jelly: iirc, one pulls in the other, -dri pulls in -glx or vice-versa? |
| 11:22.03 | jelly | -dri is enough, enouf |
| 11:22.08 | enouf | judd: depends libgl1-mesa-dri |
| 11:22.08 | judd | enouf: libgl1-mesa-dri -- Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6), libdrm2, libexpat1 (>= 1.95.8), libgl1-mesa-glx (= 6.5.1-0.6) |
| 11:22.16 | enouf | heh - ok |
| 11:22.40 | bzrk | DASPRiD the debian libs have different names |
| 11:23.11 | enouf | bzrk: i told him to look at dpkg -L output, figuring that might be an issue ;-) |
| 11:23.17 | bzrk | your program wants libwx_gtk2_core-2.8.so.0, the package has libwx_gtk2u_adv-2.8.so.0.4.0 |
| 11:23.21 | OpenTokix | jelly: it's a temporary solution until I replace the nvidia, but thx - ill trying that now |
| 11:23.25 | bzrk | enouf oh kk ^^ |
| 11:23.26 | gewt | i need a 3-pin to 4=pin fan connector adapter thing. |
| 11:23.39 | bzrk | DASPRiD just to close it up, notice the additional u? |
| 11:23.48 | gewt | my servers mobo fails |
| 11:23.54 | gewt | and has a plug for a secodn fan |
| 11:23.57 | stoned | good morning |
| 11:24.01 | gewt | but it can't USE the second fan >< |
| 11:24.09 | DASPRiD | bzrk, sure |
| 11:24.12 | DASPRiD | nevermind anyway |
| 11:24.17 | gewt | oops |
| 11:24.18 | gewt | wrogn tab |
| 11:24.19 | enouf | see #hardware - or just overlap the connector :-p |
| 11:24.20 | DASPRiD | the program isnt that important :) |
| 11:24.25 | bzrk | lol |
| 11:24.31 | bzrk | :) |
| 11:25.27 | jelly | OpenTokix: oh, and verify the kernel drm driver is loaded; i830 or i810 or i915 or, dunno |
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| 11:25.49 | OpenTokix | jelly: ok |
| 11:25.59 | OpenTokix | jelly: shouldnt that be loaded by default by hotplug? |
| 11:26.04 | enouf | lspci -k might help |
| 11:26.21 | enouf | check dmesg actually too |
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| 11:27.00 | OpenTokix | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:28.09 | OpenTokix | this is what happens when you run nvidia for a couple or years =) - totaly lost |
| 11:28.10 | OpenTokix | hehe |
| 11:28.28 | enouf | lspci -nn is better |
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| 11:30.18 | jelly | OpenTokix: no idea. /msg dpkg hcl for that lspci <-> driver cgi script |
| 11:30.46 | enouf | huh? just plug in the numbers |
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| 11:32.45 | jelly | is a grepping barbie |
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| 11:43.48 | Neaai | In a vanilla installation of proftpd I can't get system users to login. I receive the user/pass prompt but after suplying them, it says: "530 User username cannot login". What am I missing ? |
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| 11:45.18 | mhymn | #proftpd ? |
| 11:45.59 | petemc | Neaai: the debian packages proftpd? |
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| 11:46.07 | Neaai | mhymn: I thought of asking here too as it's a standard install from the repositories and thought others might have had this too. |
| 11:46.16 | Neaai | petemc: yes |
| 11:46.24 | petemc | etch or lenny? |
| 11:46.32 | Neaai | petemc: etch |
| 11:46.43 | OpenTokix | solved |
| 11:46.46 | OpenTokix | had to remove nvidia-glx to |
| 11:46.49 | OpenTokix | forecefully =) |
| 11:47.05 | petemc | Neaai: that should certainly work, are your users 'normal' ? |
| 11:47.41 | Neaai | petemc: yes. I can login via ssh but for some reason they won't in proftpd. |
| 11:47.41 | ronr | easy question: what cli tool can do this: echo "some string with spaces" | <whatever command I'm looking for> -> output some,string,with,spaces (so actually, basic search and replace) |
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| 11:49.00 | ronr | nevermind, sed s/ /,/g works just fine |
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| 11:50.39 | Ego86 | hi |
| 11:50.46 | Ego86 | i have a problem |
| 11:50.48 | bw\_ | Neaai: check you auth.log |
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| 11:51.14 | Wiz_KeeD | can anyone please aid me into rolling back an instalation of boost library wich i've canceled? |
| 11:51.23 | Ego86 | i tried to change the theme of gtk1 programs, but now my gnome theme wont works |
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| 11:51.53 | Ego86 | no either theme can't load |
| 11:52.38 | Neaai | bw\_: /var/log/auth.log doesn't have entries from proftpd. Only some entries from cron and sshd. |
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| 11:53.44 | masus | hi all, does anyone know how to create ssl files in debian etch , but ssl files without get this warning sec_error_untrusted_issuer ;) Thanks. |
| 11:55.29 | Hyperi | I'm wondering how fetchmail's IMAP features work, does it remove the mails from the server or actually keep count which mail is new and which isn't? :) |
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| 11:56.10 | nocte | well xbench is not devl anymore |
| 11:56.14 | nocte | last release in 1996 |
| 11:58.39 | ootput | hello, are any of you dualbooting windows and debian? I have an issue when switching from windows to lenny and back. My computer is connected to an lcd monitor via dvi/hdmi cable. When I switch back to Windows, after the scrolling loadup screen, the computer tower exhibits activity, but my lcd screen says no signal found. I have a hunch that it's a digital connection issue. Is that so? |
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| 12:03.28 | ham5 | need sommore engrish I dual boot no problems when are you having black screen? |
| 12:03.36 | ham5 | linux bootup? |
| 12:04.16 | bw\_ | Neaai: you tried to login with a normal user? (!=root) |
| 12:05.23 | ootput | ham5: black screen right after windows splash logo |
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| 12:05.33 | ootput | ham5: before login page shows |
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| 12:05.43 | Neaai | bw\_: yes. Several of them. I just asked "dpkg" about proftpd and it suggested to use vsftpd if I don't need anything proftpd-speciffic which I don't so am installing vsftpd. |
| 12:05.46 | ootput | engrish? |
| 12:06.19 | ham5 | sounds like windows got corrupt..reinstall |
| 12:06.30 | bw\_ | Neaai: hehe okay, i prefer vsftpd too |
| 12:06.46 | ham5 | vsftpd works very well imo |
| 12:07.04 | ootput | ham5: there's probably a better explanation. windows reinstalls are depressing |
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| 12:07.11 | ootput | thanks though |
| 12:07.40 | ham5 | I hear that, keep it for gaming only myself |
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| 12:13.14 | Neaai | bw\_: ham5: vsftpd worked at the very first try. Now I'll see to make the hidden directories not to be listed and set the root level directory to /home/username and not / |
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| 12:14.17 | F1r3_B1rd | 'ssup u guys |
| 12:16.15 | bw\_ | Neaai: check out /etc/default/vsftpd afair vsftpd takes every option as commandline parameter but debian wrapps them up in some config files |
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| 12:16.48 | Neaai | bw\_: oh. Thanks for the hint. |
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| 12:20.01 | Neaai | bw\_: I don't have an /etc/default/vsftpd but an /etc/vsftpd.conf. Am looking at that |
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| 12:20.48 | ham5 | yup |
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| 12:24.32 | Tenkawa | morning all |
| 12:24.45 | ham5 | evening |
| 12:24.49 | beardy | Which package is responsible to bring in /etc/hosts? |
| 12:24.50 | Tenkawa | heheh |
| 12:25.34 | Tenkawa | beardy: I think its created by one.. not contained in one... at least nothing appears in apt-file |
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| 12:26.06 | beardy | Tenkawa: Yes. I didn't find it either. So, who creates it, is the correct question. |
| 12:26.13 | Tenkawa | good q.. |
| 12:26.20 | Tenkawa | let me see what i can find |
| 12:26.49 | Tenkawa | ok |
| 12:26.55 | Tenkawa | its the debian-installer that does it |
| 12:27.10 | beardy | I don't have any, on this machine. It was installed using debootstrap (by a friend, a xen guest) Ah. So that's why then, because debootstrap was used.. |
| 12:27.15 | beardy | Tenkawa: Thanks. |
| 12:27.16 | Tenkawa | yeah |
| 12:27.17 | Tenkawa | exactly |
| 12:27.24 | Tenkawa | same with my xen domU's |
| 12:27.27 | enouf | nocte: man, you catch on quick :-P (xbench) |
| 12:27.35 | Tenkawa | since it doesnt run through an official install |
| 12:28.29 | enouf | Tenkawa: beardy many files are generated solely from the .postinst scripts |
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| 12:29.19 | beardy | Tenkawa: Do you by any chance also get errors from lprng run in cron.daily? |
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| 12:29.38 | enouf | s/many/some .. and the base-config as we used to know it - so udebs upon installation, things like /etc/environment, /etc/default/locale, etc |
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| 12:30.19 | nocte | enouf: what ? |
| 12:30.27 | beardy | enouf: Ah. Yeah, had some locale issues at first on the machine too. Always a problem when one doesn't install it oneself. |
| 12:30.31 | enouf | nocte: exactly ;-) |
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| 12:30.42 | beardy | Tenkawa: 2008-10-26-06:26:01.150 Get_local_host: hostname 'theboxshostname' bad |
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| 12:30.58 | nocte | exactly what ? |
| 12:30.59 | beardy | I get that, and it seems to be because of no /etc/hosts. |
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| 12:32.27 | enouf | beardy: sure ... i was just reading a bug about certain installation choices (or was it netboot method, iirc) that had an issue with locale-chooser not being presented later on in the installation when country/kbd-chooser are deferred or something |
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| 12:33.29 | beardy | enouf: I see. |
| 12:33.54 | enouf | nocte: [07:10:12] <enouf> welp "xbench" seems dead [07:10:25] <enouf> try compiz and rotating cubes :-P |
| 12:34.25 | enouf | beardy: i think it's fixed though in the 'daily' versions .. hrm, let's see here |
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| 12:35.24 | beardy | enouf: You're talking about the installer now, right? |
| 12:35.27 | nocte | enouf : oh sorry |
| 12:35.31 | nocte | did not read that |
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| 12:35.56 | nocte | so compiz you say ? |
| 12:36.04 | beardy | enouf: Well, this is a box already running, that has some irritating things happening due to no /etc/hosts.. as I gather. So, I'll just stick one in. |
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| 12:38.14 | enouf | beardy: attaboy |
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| 12:39.26 | zxxd | hi |
| 12:39.37 | F1r3_B1rd | ... |
| 12:39.38 | zxxd | how do i get rid of :WARNING: untrusted versions of the following packages will be installed!" message when installing a package |
| 12:40.04 | Tinason | hello, im trying our debian, after spending a year with kubuntu |
| 12:40.54 | Tinason | i have lenny installed, but wish to update the packages that were installed via the install cd. |
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| 12:41.13 | Tinason | im having a problem where repository hosts resolve to 1.0.0.0 |
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| 12:42.25 | enouf | beardy: likely came from one of these http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=netcfg&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all |
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| 12:43.10 | themill | Tinason: does going to other websites etc work from that box? are you irc-ing from that lenny installation now? |
| 12:43.11 | enouf | beardy: if you look in the /var/log/installer/questions.dat for things like Name: netcfg/dhcp_hostname |
| 12:43.33 | Tinason | themill: i can load google, and im in irc now |
| 12:43.37 | enouf | oops, /installer/cdebconf/questions.dat i mean beardy |
| 12:43.38 | ham5 | from nub to debian, gl gg |
| 12:43.42 | johnny66 | When will KDE4.x be available in the unstable branch (not using the experimental packages)? |
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| 12:44.01 | themill | johnny66: not until at least after lenny releases. Perhaps longer. |
| 12:44.12 | Tinason | my first goals are getting wifi and nvidia working, and i tihnk the first steps to this is being able to use apt-get :) |
| 12:44.30 | themill | Tinason: odd. What does "getent hosts security.debian.org" produce? |
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| 12:44.42 | enouf | beardy: ahh .. in /installer/syslog Nov 12 18:51:13 debootstrap: Selecting previously deselected package hostname. Nov 12 18:51:13 debootstrap: Unpacking hostname (from .../hostname_2.92_i386.deb) ... |
| 12:44.45 | johnny66 | themill: and when do you think leeny is ready to be released? |
| 12:44.59 | themill | dpkg: tell johnny66 about wwlr |
| 12:45.44 | ham5 | dpkg: kick johnny66 in the nutz |
| 12:45.44 | dpkg | kicks johnny66 in the nutz in the crotch. |
| 12:45.54 | ham5 | o |
| 12:46.12 | johnny66 | thanks |
| 12:46.18 | ham5 | np |
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| 12:46.44 | Tinason | themill: 64.233.187.99 security.debian.org |
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| 12:47.14 | danielbvho | hello |
| 12:48.33 | themill | Tinason: hmmm that doesn't look like an IP for security that I've ever seen before. |
| 12:48.39 | themill | Anyone else get that? |
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| 12:49.35 | Tenkawa | its a google address |
| 12:49.37 | themill | Tinason: what do you get for the same command but using your normal mirror? |
| 12:49.46 | themill | Tenkawa: yeah... that's what I thought. |
| 12:49.59 | Tenkawa | at least one of their ip's |
| 12:50.11 | Tenkawa | er ips |
| 12:50.40 | Tinason | themill: i dont have a normal mirror for deb. untill 2 hours ago, i was using kubuntu |
| 12:51.13 | themill | Tinason: but you did a fresh install of lenny on that box didn't you? |
| 12:51.37 | Tinason | my sources.listyes |
| 12:51.50 | Tinason | yes |
| 12:51.53 | Tinason | (sorry) |
| 12:52.02 | themill | Tinason: so what's in your sources.list now? (use a pastebin) |
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| 12:53.17 | Tinason | http://debian.pastebin.com/d41daa6a2 |
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| 12:54.02 | Tinason | (thank you for taking the time to help me) |
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| 12:54.38 | enouf | nocte: oh, you asked about a port/bus/interface test tool, i said; 'dt' http://home.comcast.net/~SCSIguy/SCSI_FAQ/RMiller_Tools/dt.html (if you want to get down and dirty ;-)) |
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| 12:55.27 | themill | Tinason: so what goes "getent hosts ftp.au.debian.org" give you? |
| 12:55.35 | nocte | enouf: lemme check this link |
| 12:55.52 | nocte | 403 |
| 12:55.59 | Tinason | 2001:388:1034:2900::25 mirror.linux.org.au ftp.au.debian.org |
| 12:55.59 | enouf | works here |
| 12:56.03 | Tinason | looks like ipv6 |
| 12:56.26 | enouf | nocte: are you in china or saudi arabia or something? |
| 12:56.33 | nocte | no in europea |
| 12:56.34 | nocte | :) |
| 12:56.39 | enouf | heh |
| 12:56.39 | nocte | Access denied by access control policy. |
| 12:56.42 | nocte | :) |
| 12:56.44 | enouf | wtf? |
| 12:57.01 | enouf | google it, find the google cache page |
| 12:57.02 | themill | Tinason: yeah. That's what I get too, but that's fine (that's on a box that works). |
| 12:57.14 | enouf | ACL heaven eh? |
| 12:57.15 | themill | Tinason: So what does "apt-get update" produce now? |
| 12:57.16 | Tinason | hmm ok |
| 12:57.45 | nocte | k. thx it seems to be fun, 'dt' .... |
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| 12:59.01 | nocte | arf, i can't downwload from where I am |
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| 12:59.56 | enouf | nocte: also ~$ apt-cache show scsitools |
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| 13:03.58 | Tinason | themill: it gets to: "31% connecting to security.debian.org (32.1.3.136) connecting to www.debian-mul" |
| 13:04.03 | Tinason | ...and just sits there |
| 13:04.07 | Tinason | ...and goes no further |
| 13:05.01 | Tinason | i could not copy n paste the entire results |
| 13:05.01 | themill | Tinason: you seem to have some very serious issues with your name servers here. |
| 13:05.18 | themill | Tinason: can you pastebin the contents of /etc/resolv.conf for me? |
| 13:05.43 | Tinason | i pasted all lines of the reult to the previous pastebin url, and i just typed out the last line |
| 13:05.54 | Tinason | ok |
| 13:06.53 | Tinason | themill: http://debian.pastebin.com/d5c251dfb |
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| 13:08.39 | themill | Tinason: try changing the IP that's listed in that file to your ISP's nameserver (which I believe should be 203.10.110.101 or 203.17.103.1) |
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| 13:09.50 | Tinason | then restart the computer? |
| 13:10.27 | beardy | antgel: Hi! |
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| 13:10.49 | bbinotto | hi, how can I add a locale without using dpkg-reconfigure locales ? |
| 13:10.59 | themill | Tinason: no, that change will be temporary but if it works, then we'll make it more permanent. Just retry the getent commands from earlier and apt-get update if they look OK |
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| 13:11.01 | enouf | nocte: maybe even peek at sg3-utils pkg, you can just use 'dd' for standard block-level transfer speed tests, for ex, i've done a quick test using dd if=/dev/zero .. overwrote a partition in all zeros .. and using bs=4M seriously (20MB/sec) outperformed bs=512(default) (5MB/sec) |
| 13:11.10 | bbinotto | i'm trying to add a locale using a script |
| 13:11.25 | enouf | localegen ? |
| 13:11.27 | abrotman | bbinotto: you could add it to the /etc/locale.gen and run locale-gen |
| 13:11.37 | bbinotto | abrotman: thank you |
| 13:11.40 | antgel | beardy: dude! |
| 13:11.46 | Tinason | i resolve security.debian.org to 1.0.0.0 now |
| 13:11.48 | abrotman | ANTGEL! |
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| 13:11.58 | Tinason | (seen while using apt-get update) |
| 13:12.02 | antgel | abrotman: dude! |
| 13:12.06 | abrotman | sweet! |
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| 13:12.44 | ham5 | ; <<>> DiG 9.5.0-P2 <<>> security.debian.org |
| 13:12.44 | ham5 | ;; global options: printcmd |
| 13:12.44 | ham5 | ;; Got answer: |
| 13:12.44 | ham5 | ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 37623 |
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| 13:12.47 | ham5 | ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 |
| 13:12.48 | themill | Tinason: does /etc/resolv.conf still have the new IP you just put in? |
| 13:12.49 | ham5 | ;; QUESTION SECTION: |
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| 13:12.51 | ham5 | ;security.debian.org.INA |
| 13:12.53 | ham5 | ;; ANSWER SECTION: |
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| 13:12.55 | ham5 | security.debian.org.300INA212.211.132.250 |
| 13:12.57 | ham5 | security.debian.org.300INA128.31.0.36 |
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| 13:13.00 | enouf | ham5: stop!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 13:13.01 | themill | !stop pasting ham5 |
| 13:13.02 | dpkg | ham5: We don't defecate on your keyboard. Please don't paste in our channel. /msg dpkg paste |
| 13:13.05 | abrotman | ham5: don't paste here, use paste.debian.net |
| 13:13.20 | haxality | hey all, I'm having an odd problem. I was using vga=0x31b to use a decent-res framebuffer during boot, but suddenly grub says this is an invalid video mode |
| 13:13.30 | Tinason | yes, i didnt remove it, i just added the isp dns servers. ill remove the 192... entry. sorry |
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| 13:13.36 | ham5 | lol yea sorry |
| 13:13.37 | ham5 | mybad |
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| 13:13.42 | haxality | also, when I type 'scan' it only shows like 5 modes, which are all very low |
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| 13:14.30 | Tinason | themill: thank you, apt-get update is working! :) |
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| 13:14.41 | Tinason | <- newbie |
| 13:14.57 | neoice | anyone know if/where compiz logs to? |
| 13:14.58 | enouf | haxality: so use the decimal equiv |
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| 13:15.03 | bbinotto | abrotman: the file /etc/locale.gen does not exist, but running locale-gen generates some |
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| 13:15.18 | abrotman | bbinotto: which version of debian is this? |
| 13:15.21 | haxality | enouf, grub seems to only be able to read it as hex |
| 13:15.31 | bbinotto | abrotman: current stable |
| 13:15.36 | haxality | enouf, if I use a decimal number it converts it to hex and tells me it's wrong |
| 13:15.38 | abrotman | bbinotto: it exists for me on etch |
| 13:15.38 | maligor | haxality, that sounds like a linux mode |
| 13:15.48 | haxality | oh, there's a third one? |
| 13:15.49 | enouf | haxality: that's not debian then |
| 13:15.50 | maligor | haxality, linux uses +0x200 for vesa modes |
| 13:16.04 | haxality | wait.. what? |
| 13:16.14 | enouf | just use 791 |
| 13:16.29 | ootput | is there a way to get a higher resolution of boot messages for a 1920x1080/1200 display? |
| 13:16.35 | haxality | heh oh the irony |
| 13:16.51 | haxality | enouf, I'm not trying to sound ungrateful, but if that doesn't work? |
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| 13:17.01 | haxality | I have a feeling it's not going to |
| 13:17.05 | enouf | try uvesa ootput ? |
| 13:17.17 | ootput | haven't tried it |
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| 13:17.19 | enouf | haxality: then it never did |
| 13:17.27 | haxality | hey now |
| 13:17.32 | maligor | haxality, this is about grub menu modes, no? |
| 13:17.36 | haxality | yes. |
| 13:17.45 | haxality | I'm pretty sure I'm not delusional :( |
| 13:17.57 | enouf | ootput: how high are you getting now? |
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| 13:18.14 | ootput | 1600x1200 |
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| 13:18.26 | enouf | and that's not enough? ffs! |
| 13:18.47 | ootput | enouf: hehe nah kidding |
| 13:18.49 | tuxcrafter | hello everybody, i am looking for an virtule .desktop menu, i can "mount" on the filesystem so folders and symbol links are created to the .desktop files, so instead of an "menu panel plugin" somehting that can be connected to the filesystem and create a menu structure there |
| 13:18.51 | enouf | what do you have coke bottles for bifocals? |
| 13:18.52 | ootput | default |
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| 13:19.29 | ootput | i've only tried 1024x768 as that's documented |
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| 13:19.47 | enouf | anything more than that, i need a telescope |
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| 13:20.17 | petemc | wouldnt a microscope be more effective? |
| 13:20.31 | enouf | well, i could go up to next notch, but then i'd have to have the monitor ~ 5" from my face |
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| 13:20.51 | haxality | so.. I got an error when I tried vga=791 in my kopt |
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| 13:21.01 | enouf | petemc: isn't a telescope just a giant microscope? |
| 13:21.01 | haxality | Undefined video mode number: 317 |
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| 13:21.25 | haxality | I assure you, I did not type vga=317. |
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| 13:21.44 | petemc | enouf: not aiui |
| 13:21.50 | enouf | haxality: #kopt= are only for newer entries to come - alter the other lines that exist |
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| 13:22.04 | haxality | I used update-grub |
| 13:22.12 | enouf | petemc: well - distance is relative :-P |
| 13:22.14 | ootput | fitting the apparatus b/w monitor and face would be quite a feat |
| 13:22.16 | petemc | :) |
| 13:22.32 | enouf | htmlol: edit your existing stanzas |
| 13:22.38 | enouf | er |
| 13:22.44 | enouf | haxality: edit your existing stanzas |
| 13:22.50 | haxality | enouf, I'm looking at the kernel entries in my menu.lst with vga=791 after them right now |
| 13:22.58 | haxality | I don't think that's the problem |
| 13:23.02 | enouf | or, edit the menu at boot, with 'e' |
| 13:23.28 | haxality | why would it claim I was supplying an invalid video mode number if it wasn't seeing my entries? |
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| 13:23.34 | haxality | that doesn't make sense. |
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| 13:24.02 | haxality | nothing in my menu.lst changed, but at some point grub decided it can only use line by column video modes, no framebuffer |
| 13:24.06 | enouf | senses there's a big hunk of the storyline missing |
| 13:24.13 | haxality | no, literally |
| 13:24.16 | haxality | I went to bed last night |
| 13:24.18 | haxality | got up this morning |
| 13:24.22 | haxality | and it had stopped working |
| 13:24.24 | haxality | granted |
| 13:24.33 | haxality | I might have broken something somehow before I turned it off last night |
| 13:24.35 | enouf | your GPU is fried? |
| 13:24.35 | ootput | mischievous elves |
| 13:24.41 | haxality | I hope not :( |
| 13:24.46 | enouf | ghost in the machine |
| 13:24.48 | haxality | what could affect this? |
| 13:24.58 | enouf | you tell us |
| 13:24.59 | ootput | see above |
| 13:25.04 | enouf | how's X working? |
| 13:25.13 | haxality | same as before |
| 13:25.35 | haxality | my gfx card is brand new, I'd hope that's not the source of the problem |
| 13:25.59 | haxality | not new as of the last boot, but new as in like a month or two old |
| 13:26.00 | antgel | hey all. got some groupware-type questions. i've deployed opengroupware in the past for clients who needed a shared calendar, but the footprint is so large, and the UI is somewhat clunky. have things moved on in the past few years? is there anything else worth considering? i thought about the sunbird plugin for iceweasel, and phpicalendar as a back-end? |
| 13:26.14 | enouf | if X and everything works, then no ... what does " I might have broken something somehow before I turned it off last night" mean, haha |
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| 13:26.57 | haxality | well afaik, I did not edit any crucial config files or install giant blobs or software or anything |
| 13:27.18 | haxality | but I have some capacity to break things just like anyone else |
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| 13:27.49 | haxality | does my xorg.conf have anything to do with this? |
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| 13:30.26 | enouf | no |
| 13:31.36 | haxality | then I don't know what I did. |
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| 13:31.42 | enouf | could be a somewhat corrupt video BIOS ..somehow |
| 13:31.46 | haxality | it just magically forgot about framebuffers |
| 13:32.01 | enouf | read-edid/get-edid, vesa compliance modes - run fsck on your / |
| 13:32.14 | enouf | 'shutdown -rF now' |
| 13:32.17 | abrotman | blames dell |
| 13:32.23 | haxality | I'm using a computer I built. |
| 13:32.42 | haxality | sigh. |
| 13:32.56 | enouf | your system BIOS might have gotten a bit corrupt from a power outage while you slept |
| 13:33.06 | haxality | I have a UPS :( |
| 13:33.07 | enouf | check your BIOS |
| 13:33.13 | enouf | heh |
| 13:33.22 | haxality | I take good care of my stuff, seriously |
| 13:33.23 | enouf | that probably upchucked |
| 13:33.42 | haxality | so theoretically random stuff in my bios could screw it up? |
| 13:33.45 | haxality | alright.. |
| 13:33.47 | haxality | brb then |
| 13:33.50 | enouf | unless you have a Chevy V8 for a UPS, lmao |
| 13:34.07 | enouf | yes |
| 13:34.07 | abrotman | only jetscreamer has that |
| 13:34.30 | enouf | haha .. dude, ever seen them in marine form? ;-) |
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| 13:39.35 | nocte | enouf : hdparm also is good |
| 13:39.47 | enouf | nocte: not really |
| 13:40.06 | nocte | dd is better ? |
| 13:40.19 | enouf | well .. it's kind of like glxgears |
| 13:40.42 | enouf | especially if you don't drop_caches, etc |
| 13:41.17 | nocte | 100000000 bytes (100 MB) copied, 1,23535 s, 80,9 MB/s |
| 13:41.25 | nocte | totally different than hdparm... |
| 13:41.26 | enouf | IOW, it's a relative measurement .. sure, if you want to compare to others' hdparm output .. |
| 13:41.32 | nocte | when you try hdparm, and dd |
| 13:41.42 | ootput | !iow |
| 13:41.43 | dpkg | from memory, iow is In Other Words |
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| 13:42.16 | enouf | that ain't usb :-P |
| 13:42.43 | nocte | enouf |
| 13:42.49 | nocte | why reuslt is different |
| 13:42.57 | nocte | when i invoke dev/zero or de/urandom ? |
| 13:43.01 | nocte | *dev/urandom ? |
| 13:43.27 | enouf | nocte: they block |
| 13:43.27 | nocte | it take more time to write random data than zeros |
| 13:43.33 | enouf | well .. random does |
| 13:43.47 | enouf | random/urandom isn't zeros either |
| 13:43.52 | Shane|zh_CN | :P |
| 13:43.56 | enouf | oh ffs |
| 13:43.58 | nocte | well... how you can so really measure the perf of your hard drive if its depend of the input ? |
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| 13:44.00 | haxality | so. |
| 13:44.02 | haxality | I fixed it. |
| 13:44.07 | haxality | do you want to know what was causing it? |
| 13:44.14 | haxality | My VGA BIOS was fine. |
| 13:44.14 | enouf | do you like to ask, so you can answer yourself? |
| 13:44.24 | haxality | no :( |
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| 13:44.32 | haxality | I just wanted to assert that I am not, in fact, losing my mind |
| 13:44.34 | enouf | not you |
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| 13:44.44 | nocte | me ? :) |
| 13:44.49 | enouf | yes you |
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| 13:46.25 | haxality | bios bug, man. |
| 13:46.31 | haxality | I had a USB HDD plugged in the whole time |
| 13:46.35 | haxality | that was what had changed |
| 13:46.45 | haxality | when I unplugged it, GRUB could see my video modes fine |
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| 13:46.48 | haxality | :x |
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| 13:47.08 | haxality | you had me scared I was in for catastrophic hardware failure |
| 13:47.26 | whitman | How can I exit an application "properly" from the command line. I essentially want to fake clicking on the close button via the command line, I want the app to close properly so that it can save settings. |
| 13:48.10 | acemi_ | whitman: which application? |
| 13:48.27 | whitman | prism |
| 13:48.41 | enouf | haxality: you must be joking .. so the solution is; "Unplug your USB Disks" .. lmao |
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| 13:49.03 | whitman | I'm not running a window manager as I'm making a kiosk type system, but I want to close prism in a way that it will save settings rather than just killing it |
| 13:49.12 | enouf | haxality: then again, Consumer grade, and much pro grade hardware sucks ass |
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| 13:49.50 | acemi_ | whitman: I don't know how it's done in prism |
| 13:50.03 | haxality | yeah. |
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| 13:50.20 | haxality | enouf, if I hadn't personally experienced such wonkiness before, I wouldn't believe it either |
| 13:50.39 | haxality | my dad's lappy has a tendancy to crap itself if there's a USB drive plugged in |
| 13:50.40 | enouf | haxality: you were not only booting the wrong system, but had the wrong menu.lst ... |
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| 13:50.51 | haxality | psh no no |
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| 13:51.01 | enouf | psh yes yes |
| 13:51.06 | haxality | is that what grub was doing? |
| 13:51.11 | haxality | OH |
| 13:51.12 | haxality | I see |
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| 13:51.28 | haxality | the root fs entry was confused or some such |
| 13:53.50 | enouf | haxality: you likely have the BIOS sett to boot from USB before HDD, and it was trying to boot it |
| 13:53.55 | haxality | no |
| 13:53.58 | enouf | ..or your usb HDD has no OS, and still your BIOS was set to try and boot from it |
| 13:53.59 | haxality | it was not |
| 13:54.13 | haxality | and my bios has everything but HDD boot disabled |
| 13:54.15 | haxality | I'm paranoid |
| 13:54.34 | abrotman | haxality: i have a system that does the same .. the boot order is correct, but i'm guessing the way it probes devices throws the kernel off .. try setting grub to boot by UUID instead of device name |
| 13:54.36 | haxality | I'm telling you it's an insane bug that somehow cropped up in that one specific situation |
| 13:54.41 | haxality | ah true! |
| 13:54.58 | abrotman | !uuid |
| 13:54.58 | dpkg | rumour has it, uuid is a universally unique identifier used to label disk partitions, among other things. To see the currently-known partition UUIDs, do ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid. To mount or boot by uuid, use "UUID=dead-beef-0420-etc" as the partition name. |
| 13:55.02 | haxality | by the way, like I said earlier, I don't mean to sound ungrateful. I appreciate you guys trying to help me out |
| 13:55.09 | haxality | I'm just very argumentative |
| 13:55.12 | abrotman | he sounds ungrateful! |
| 13:55.16 | haxality | cowers |
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| 13:55.53 | enouf | you guys don't know how to setup your BIOSes .. ffs ... |
| 13:56.01 | haxality | yes I do! |
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| 13:56.07 | haxality | I'm a hardcore extreme overclocker d00d |
| 13:56.08 | haxality | ! |
| 13:56.12 | haxality | (much sarcasm intended) |
| 13:56.14 | enouf | haha |
| 13:56.21 | haxality | but seriously I've been doing the hardware side of PC stuff for like 5 years |
| 13:56.30 | abrotman | enouf: it's not a bios issue .. |
| 13:56.31 | haxality | linux is what I'm new to (relatively) |
| 13:56.45 | abrotman | enouf: i'd send you the machine .. but i like having the VMs :) |
| 13:56.55 | enouf | there's the other device/bus boot order priority menu you guys often overlook |
| 13:57.09 | abrotman | thinks enouf doesn't get it |
| 13:57.21 | enouf | likely |
| 13:57.36 | haxality | so abrotman I can just replace the root=/dev/hda1 line with UUID=<uuid here> in my menu.lst? |
| 13:57.59 | abrotman | i believe .. double check on google |
| 13:58.03 | haxality | sure. |
| 13:58.10 | haxality | just making sure I'm not woefully misinterpreting this |
| 13:59.08 | enouf | i'll give you guys one thing though, since BIOS code is mostly proprietary dogcrap voodoo .. i can't blame ya |
| 13:59.08 | abrotman | enouf: in my case .. blame IBM :) |
| 13:59.08 | haxality | yeah. |
| 13:59.08 | enouf | !shoot ibm |
| 13:59.08 | dpkg | blows ibm away with an Elephant gun loaded with Badgers |
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| 13:59.08 | haxality | I generally side with the "lazy manufacturer mofos" argument |
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| 13:59.31 | haxality | why finish the hardware implementation when you can slap it together with software duct tape? |
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| 13:59.36 | haxality | !@#$@#$^ |
| 13:59.38 | amikrop | Hello. I want to find an SVN client with Nautilus integration (like TortoiseSVN for win32 has windows explorer integration). Is there any available? |
| 13:59.58 | haxality | I'm starting to see why long-time linux users get so crotchety about hardware standards |
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| 14:02.54 | ham5 | dpkg: kick enouf |
| 14:02.54 | dpkg | kicks enouf in the ass. |
| 14:02.58 | abrotman | amikrop: i'd probably ask the svn or gnome people |
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| 14:03.07 | enouf | hay! |
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| 14:03.17 | enouf | bastes ham5 |
| 14:03.23 | ham5 | ;) |
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| 14:05.31 | amikrop | abrotman: ok :) |
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| 14:08.18 | enouf | ksvn? |
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| 14:09.18 | flower | how do I pack a folder? |
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| 14:10.32 | Tenkawa | flower: pack a folder? |
| 14:10.41 | abrotman | zip? tar -zcf ? |
| 14:10.46 | enouf | flower: tar + gz? |
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| 14:10.53 | enouf | cpio? |
| 14:10.55 | flower | enouf: yes |
| 14:11.06 | enouf | man tar |
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| 14:11.25 | asg | shar :p |
| 14:11.25 | imzu | flower, you mean archive it? use tar as in tar -c folder.tar folder. or in one hit, tar -czvf folder.tar.gz folder |
| 14:11.45 | flower | k |
| 14:11.51 | enouf | shell archiver? |
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| 14:13.03 | Legality | Hi |
| 14:13.15 | Legality | hey, what was the command I could choose to select the language of my debian system? |
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| 14:13.46 | Legality | I remember there was a list of languages and you could choose a language with space-button and install it + make it default |
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| 14:14.46 | enouf | Legality: locale -a ? |
| 14:14.58 | enouf | Legality: locale-gen ? |
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| 14:15.19 | enouf | !tell Legality -about locales |
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| 14:24.11 | Shane|zh_CN | Legality, dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 14:24.23 | Legality | yeah |
| 14:24.34 | Legality | thanks, enouf helped me already |
| 14:24.41 | Legality | thanks for the help guys |
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| 14:27.59 | dam85 | hello |
| 14:28.13 | rvsjoen | any way to change the file size limit ? the block size is already 4k |
| 14:28.29 | dam85 | how to set postfix to send email to hotmail accounts? |
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| 14:28.40 | Legality | :D |
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| 14:29.06 | Legality | that's a qofd, dam85 |
| 14:29.21 | dam85 | ?? |
| 14:29.39 | Legality | question of the day |
| 14:29.58 | stew | rvsjoen: which file size limit? the one in ext3? |
| 14:30.01 | dam85 | ok |
| 14:30.02 | dam85 | : |
| 14:30.04 | dam85 | :) |
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| 14:30.54 | dam85 | someone could help me? |
| 14:31.19 | rvsjoen | probably, I have an application that breaks with "file size limit exceeded" |
| 14:31.42 | rvsjoen | it's writing data into files, one file per minute. if one minute gets a crapload of data it crashes |
| 14:32.01 | petemc | dam85: its the supposed reputation of the sending host that decides whether hotmail will deliver your mail, if thats your question |
| 14:32.19 | stew | rvsjoen: does "ulimit -a" show a file size limit? |
| 14:32.51 | dam85 | yes |
| 14:32.56 | dam85 | but i have a dedicated server |
| 14:33.00 | rvsjoen | no, it shows unlimited |
| 14:33.08 | dam85 | i installed postfix it works good |
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| 14:33.24 | dam85 | but if i send to hotmail account the email is definited spam |
| 14:33.36 | petemc | not much you can do about that, probably |
| 14:33.50 | petemc | hormail use a blackbox for their spam filtering |
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| 14:33.55 | petemc | s/or/ot/ |
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| 14:34.01 | dam85 | so what can i do? |
| 14:34.19 | petemc | dam85: does it have matching forward and reverse dns? have you checked if your ip is on any blacklists? |
| 14:34.28 | Legality | For some reason, the only server that are under my admin and can send emails to hotmail(+yahoo) normally are cpanel servers |
| 14:34.49 | dam85 | no the ips is new |
| 14:34.55 | petemc | new? |
| 14:34.56 | dam85 | today i used it |
| 14:34.59 | themill | Tinason: no worries... but that will only work for a little while until you next get a dhcp lease from your adsl modem/router. For a permanent fix, "/msg dpkg override dns" to make those nameservers the default. |
| 14:35.13 | dam85 | yes i never used the ip before |
| 14:35.19 | Legality | dam85: contact hotmail support, they can put your server to a migitation period, during which all the email will be delivered normally and the hotmail system tries to learn your server email traficking |
| 14:35.32 | Legality | dam85: some other ded customer has used that ip already before you |
| 14:35.44 | dam85 | ok |
| 14:35.51 | petemc | ive not heard of anyone getting any satisfaction from contacting hotmail support |
| 14:35.58 | Legality | now you have |
| 14:36.05 | Legality | they once put my box in that migitation period |
| 14:36.07 | petemc | im dubious |
| 14:36.16 | Legality | what's dubious? |
| 14:36.20 | rvsjoen | according to the comparison on wikipedia ext3 should support files all the way up to 2TB |
| 14:36.27 | petemc | a word to describe my scepticism |
| 14:36.59 | Legality | you think I lie? |
| 14:37.10 | petemc | its contrary to my experience |
| 14:37.18 | rvsjoen | at least with my block size of 4KB |
| 14:37.24 | Legality | I bugged them via emails for about 4 weeks |
| 14:37.27 | stew | rvsjoen: no ext3 goes up to 16TiB |
| 14:38.34 | rvsjoen | the partition im writing on is only 300GB so I would get a out of space error and not a file size exceeded problem if the files were really that big |
| 14:38.46 | rvsjoen | the biggest file I can find after the application crashes is 2.1GB |
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| 14:39.48 | dam85 | gmail is ok |
| 14:39.51 | dam85 | hotmail no |
| 14:39.57 | dam85 | microsoft!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 14:40.14 | sutha | how can i kill all the process in chroot ? |
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| 14:40.52 | Legality | dam85: change to centos5.2 + cpanel |
| 14:41.04 | Legality | #debian let me hear that you!1 :> |
| 14:41.26 | Legality | wow.. the reactions were a lot calmer than I anticipated |
| 14:41.27 | petemc | thats about as liekly to help as contacting hotmail support |
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| 14:44.51 | XTZGZoReX | How can I install Sun's Java with APT? |
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| 14:45.12 | dam85 | how to set spf record in postfix? |
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| 14:45.21 | petemc | you dont, its dns |
| 14:45.23 | stew | XTZGZoReX: yes, what version of debian are you running? |
| 14:45.28 | XTZGZoReX | stew: etch |
| 14:45.32 | XTZGZoReX | stew: 4.0 that is |
| 14:45.38 | tolecnal | dam85: SPF isn't set up in Postfix, it's set up as a TXT record in your DNS zone |
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| 14:46.14 | stew | XTZGZoReX: sun-java5-* packages are in non-free: /msg dpkg non-free |
| 14:46.35 | dam85 | ok |
| 14:46.38 | dam85 | so i have to put |
| 14:46.50 | dam85 | v=spf1 a mx mx:mail.name.com ~all |
| 14:46.51 | dam85 | in |
| 14:46.55 | dam85 | TXT record right? |
| 14:47.11 | petemc | domain.com. 604800 IN TXT "v=spf1 a ip4:ip/32 -all" |
| 14:47.34 | dam85 | what? |
| 14:47.45 | petemc | thats the line you need in your zone file |
| 14:47.48 | petemc | change the ip to suit |
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| 14:48.03 | dam85 | petemc i set DNS to name.com |
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| 14:48.29 | dam85 | what i have to use the dns on my server? |
| 14:48.34 | dam85 | *why |
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| 14:48.46 | zahna | what is the default DEBCONF_PRIORITY value? |
| 14:48.56 | dam85 | i have bought a domain from name.com |
| 14:50.07 | petemc | dam85: there are many guides on implenting spf |
| 14:50.39 | dam85 | but i have to set to my dns admin |
| 14:50.41 | dam85 | not in my server |
| 14:50.58 | petemc | that doesnt preclude you from reading up on it |
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| 14:51.49 | tolecnal | one should never implement something just to implement it. one should understand what one implement, so that one stands better suited to deal with administering your systems in the event that something goes wrong. |
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| 14:51.59 | tolecnal | first rule of system administration if you ask me |
| 14:52.10 | sutha | is there anyway to do this in one patter date +%G%m%d ? |
| 14:53.03 | stew | sutha: 'one patter' ? |
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| 14:54.04 | sutha | stew: one pattern like this date +%F |
| 14:54.17 | lodder_ | Can lenny installer, install on an existing logical volume ? |
| 14:54.18 | sutha | stew: but i won't xx-xx-xx .. iw ant like xxxxxx |
| 14:54.36 | lodder_ | Can lenny installer, find a existing vg ? |
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| 14:55.42 | jolt | lodder_: Yes, I think so |
| 14:55.53 | lodder_ | jolt: k thx |
| 14:56.03 | jolt | I think I even did that |
| 14:56.17 | pumpkin0 | i have a big pile of pdfs (think > 4GB) and want a full text search on them. Where should i start? |
| 14:56.42 | lodder_ | jolt: well I have currently it running on other partitions then lvm and want to install it on lvm now |
| 14:56.58 | lodder_ | and upgrade to lenny |
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| 15:00.42 | krzd | hi |
| 15:00.51 | lodder_ | hi krzd |
| 15:01.08 | krzd | i can find full cds and dvds for debian lenny but no netinst isos. where are they? |
| 15:01.24 | jpinx | I am trying to add flash to iceweasel but I can only see a .deb pkg for ubuntu - does that one work in Etch? Or do I need to do something else? |
| 15:01.38 | stew | krzd: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 15:01.59 | stew | jpinx: flashplugin-nonfree is on backports.org |
| 15:02.17 | krzd | should i use the daily netinst or the beta2 one |
| 15:02.36 | lodder_ | krzd: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 15:02.40 | jpinx | stew: thanks -- I forgot to look there ;) |
| 15:02.45 | habib | hello # |
| 15:02.50 | habib | my lan server thinks that the name of the clients on the network are the same as it was onj the first install.. does any one know where I change it? |
| 15:03.10 | krzd | yeah but wich netinst should i use (daily/beta2)? |
| 15:03.22 | lodder_ | I use beta2 |
| 15:03.52 | krzd | ok, thx |
| 15:04.22 | stew | krzd: beta2 has a 2.6.24 kernel daily has a 2.6.26 kernel, if that makes a difference |
| 15:04.34 | stew | krzd: daily has a better chance of being completely broken |
| 15:05.28 | krzd | stew: if i see this right: ubuntu stable has alreade 2.6.27 |
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| 15:09.39 | jolt | ubunty != debian |
| 15:10.01 | jolt | They release stuff more often |
| 15:10.34 | krzd | oh, as i have read now, ubuntu is based on sid... ok |
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| 15:14.16 | greggman | Hello. I have 2 nics.. I installed the other one just lately.. but debian can't recognize it.. the nic is d-link |
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| 15:17.31 | abrotman | dmesg | grep eth .. do oyu see both ? |
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| 15:17.47 | imzu | greggman, is it listed in ifconfig? |
| 15:18.37 | greggman | nope.. it's not listed there |
| 15:19.04 | imzu | what about in the dmesg output as abrotman suggested? |
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| 15:21.03 | imzu | greggman, and is it listed when: ifconfig -a |
| 15:22.13 | greggman | imzu, yeah.. it is in ifconfig -a |
| 15:22.44 | krzd | how do i list my hdds (something with grep and -ls i think) |
| 15:22.46 | imzu | pastebin the ifconfig -a |
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| 15:23.43 | imzu | krzd, depends what info you want but one way is to install the lshw package then run lshw as root |
| 15:24.12 | krzd | i want to see wich name my usb stick has (/dev/sdXY) |
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| 15:25.23 | greggman | imzu, I just want to make the machine as a gateway and at the same time trasparent proxy |
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| 15:25.52 | greggman | but the problem is.. can't see the nic2 |
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| 15:27.01 | imzu | krzd, a simple mount command as root should tell you |
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| 15:27.24 | krzd | imzu: thx |
| 15:27.42 | krzd | bye |
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| 15:28.06 | greggman | how about my case imzu ? |
| 15:28.27 | abrotman | dmesg | grep eth .. do oyu see both ? |
| 15:28.43 | abrotman | if it's in ifconfig -a .. you just need to configure it |
| 15:28.48 | abrotman | !tell greggman about interfaces |
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| 15:29.06 | imzu | greggman, your system does recognize nic2, you need to activate it using ifconfig or configure it via ifup scripts |
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| 15:29.58 | imzu | greggman, ifconfig will list "UP" next to all interfaces that are up |
| 15:30.11 | bpgoldsb | Anyone here using preseeding with a partitioning scheme, who can post [some of] their preseed configuration file for me? |
| 15:30.45 | greggman | imzu, how to activate it using ifconfig? |
| 15:31.08 | abrotman | !tell greggman about interfaces |
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| 15:31.44 | imzu | greggman, man ifconfig, but here are example: ifconfig eth1 up <ip address> |
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| 15:33.49 | greggman | I just activated it using ifconfig eth1 up 10.255.255.1 but I can't see it in nano /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 15:34.42 | abrotman | because *you* have to type it in there if you want it like that |
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| 15:35.40 | imzu | greggman, i don't think that file changes dynamically when you add a new interface. it is generated at install time only. you need to hit man interfaces to see some examples |
| 15:36.20 | imzu | man "configfile" name normally is a good bet on debian |
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| 15:38.53 | Tenkawa | there any way to get scp to follow/create symlinks instead of copying the file? |
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| 15:40.09 | Tenkawa | hmm.. guess not by what I'm reading |
| 15:40.21 | Tenkawa | need to find another solution then |
| 15:40.49 | bzrk | Tenkawa either tar the files you want or use rsync |
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| 15:41.04 | Tenkawa | bzrk: yeah out of space... rsync was my next option |
| 15:41.07 | bzrk | scp has no option to create symlinks unfortunately |
| 15:41.17 | Tenkawa | gotta set up a conf file though |
| 15:41.22 | themill | Tenkawa: a tar pipe or rsync |
| 15:41.24 | bzrk | you can pipe tar into scp too |
| 15:41.25 | vanksi | Tenkawa, if you are scripting something why dont you use "ssh somehost "cd /some/path && scp something" |
| 15:41.25 | Tenkawa | might work on it this weekend |
| 15:41.49 | Tenkawa | hmm... piping tar into an scp has potential |
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| 15:42.17 | bzrk | rsync is easiest though i guess |
| 15:42.20 | jelly | Tenkawa: s/scp/ssh/, you meant |
| 15:42.41 | bzrk | rsync -avze ssh /src user@host:/dest |
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| 15:44.28 | jelly | it only works when there's rsync installed on both ends |
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| 15:45.06 | CoolCold | mb anybody knows, why this is netstat -s ? |
| 15:45.07 | CoolCold | 2336 packets collapsed in receive queue due to low socket buffer |
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| 15:45.52 | dustybin | could debian machines catch this trojan? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7701227.stm |
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| 15:47.51 | Tenkawa | ahh haa.. the scp/tar trick is workig great |
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| 15:47.58 | jelly | dustybin: not enough data for a meaningful answer |
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| 15:48.19 | jelly | Tenkawa: there you go again with "scp"! |
| 15:48.35 | Tenkawa | err ssh |
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| 15:48.43 | Tenkawa | tar is doing the symlinking |
| 15:48.50 | jelly | likes tar | nc better :-) |
| 15:49.20 | jelly | pros: fast and dirty cons: data goes over the net in plain |
| 15:49.23 | Tenkawa | heh |
| 15:49.27 | Tenkawa | afk.. lunch tim |
| 15:49.29 | Tenkawa | e |
| 15:50.16 | dam85 | is there someone know how ispconfig wokrs? |
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| 15:55.59 | masus | hi all, can anybody give me a tip how to delete files that have a whitespace inthere -> find /test/ -name "* *" | xargs rm -f , doesnt work |
| 15:56.17 | imzu | jelly, hmm not really looked at nc before, interesting |
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| 15:57.19 | acemi_ | masus: rm *\ * |
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| 15:57.34 | masus | acemi_: thanks |
| 15:57.53 | jelly | imzu: an indispensable tool! |
| 15:58.05 | Maliuta | masus: try find /test/ -type f | grep \ | xargs -iX rm -f 'X' |
| 15:58.31 | imzu | jelly, the man page describes it as "TCP/IP swiss army knife" :D |
| 15:58.43 | Maliuta | masus: otherwise you will get not only files but things like dirs and symlinks |
| 16:00.13 | themill | masus: if you are using find and xargs, you should always use "find -print0" and "xargs -0". For your specific problem, you perhaps want to look at the -delete option to find. Also /msg dpkg using find |
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| 16:02.43 | Maliuta | to be technical `find /test/ -type f -name '*\ *' -delete` would do it |
| 16:03.31 | Maliuta | as would `find /test/ -type f -name '*\ *' -exec rm '{}'\;` |
| 16:03.37 | imzu | later peeps |
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| 16:05.08 | lindenle | anyone remeber how to change an ldap users password ? |
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| 16:05.35 | Maliuta | lindenle: with a script that replaces the hash in ldap with another hash |
| 16:05.40 | Maliuta | lindenle: I write my own |
| 16:06.06 | Authority | does anyone here use cfengine with their debian system? I'm having a little trouble with debian's idea to link the inputs directory to /etc |
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| 16:07.03 | lindenle | Maliuta: so i forgot to add it when I made the account and ldappaswd is not working, can i ldapupdate it? |
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| 16:07.16 | Maliuta | lindenle: the short answer is that unless you are using a directory layout specified by the people the wrote something like ldappasswd there is no "standard" way |
| 16:07.55 | lindenle | ok |
| 16:08.10 | Maliuta | lindenle: use ldapsearch with the root DN to get the details of what is in the entry, then make an ldiff and add it with ldapmodify |
| 16:08.34 | Maliuta | lindenle: or use your c/perl/php scripts to do it |
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| 16:08.52 | lindenle | Maliuta: right that I have done thanks |
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| 16:09.53 | lindenle | Ok next question can i add password expiration to LDAP |
| 16:10.36 | Maliuta | lindenle: go read the schema files to see what you can put in there |
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| 16:10.54 | Maliuta | lindenle: it all depends on what schemas you are using |
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| 16:14.15 | nocte | i have a question. i some sites, when i want to download a package |
| 16:14.35 | nocte | i have two choice : source or debian/ubuntu package. does debian && ubuntu both use the same package .deb ? |
| 16:14.38 | nocte | exactly the same ? |
| 16:15.41 | \amethyst | nocte: they use exactly the same format. Since package versions are often different, the dependencies might not be exactly the same |
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| 16:16.18 | \amethyst | nocte: but if someone calls a single .deb a "Debian/Ubuntu package", they have probably been careful to make it compatible with the dependencies in both |
| 16:16.44 | nocte | \amethyst: ok thx |
| 16:16.53 | \amethyst | (or they haven't been careful, but think they have :) |
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| 16:19.17 | abrotman | or it's all static :) |
| 16:19.39 | nocte | \amethyst: and if there any way |
| 16:19.49 | nocte | to fix this dependencie problem with dpkg ? |
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| 16:20.47 | dtcrshr | im getting an annoying error on my debian etch 4, using samba 3.0.24 logs. "cerate_builtin_administrators" with numbers 751 and 785 showing. iv passed thought this error : http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=385372 |
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| 16:20.58 | \amethyst | nocte: not a good way. sometimes just one package needs to be upgraded to the version from Ubuntu, but sometimes it's enough packages that you would have to completely upgrade |
| 16:21.05 | dtcrshr | is it fixed? how do i stop getting the messages? |
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| 16:21.26 | \amethyst | nocte: one thing you might be able to do is build the .deb from source, which will try to use the versions available on your system |
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| 16:22.24 | \amethyst | nocte: presumably if they are proving a .deb they have a debian/ directory in their source package and you can install the build-dependencies then do ./debian/rules binary |
| 16:22.29 | \amethyst | to build the .deb |
| 16:22.56 | \amethyst | nocte: what is the package, in question, by the way? |
| 16:23.02 | \amethyst | s/, in q/ in q/ |
| 16:23.36 | nocte | phoronix-test-suite |
| 16:23.45 | nocte | http://www.phoronix-test-suite.com/index.php?k=downloads |
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| 16:30.21 | E-XtraCt | I tried to install drivers to my video card, I downloaded the drivers from AMD-ATI website and when I'm tring to install I get the following error: http://e-xtract.info/ati_error.jpg , How can I solve it ? |
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| 16:31.28 | themill | dpkg: tell E-XtraCt about fglrx |
| 16:33.03 | lindenle | Anyone here know how to preseed ldap configurations for the debian installer |
| 16:33.03 | lindenle | ? |
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| 16:35.43 | doublehp | whats the package to get latex ? |
| 16:35.51 | doublehp | texlive-latex-base ? |
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| 16:37.06 | themill | doublehp: yes |
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| 16:38.25 | n3kl | Hey, I want to reinstall my laptop onto an lvm root. Isn't there some get-selections stuff I can do so when I get the system back up, all I have to do is set-selections? |
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| 16:39.59 | doublehp | n3kl: how is DPKG related to LVM ? |
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| 16:40.06 | g0rd0n | is there a way to know from shell if i have hardware virtualization enabled on my system? |
| 16:40.15 | n3kl | point being, that I want to reformat |
| 16:40.23 | deadcat | i am still trying to mount a remove /home (with diff users (same uid)) on local machine so that i can edit dir/files own by me.... but seems like nfsv4 has some new features thats not letting me |
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| 16:40.51 | zahna | is "sid" always unstable, or will it eventually become testing and then stable? |
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| 16:41.01 | riot | how can i install single packages (with dependencies) into a chroot? |
| 16:41.07 | deadcat | zahna: always |
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| 16:41.16 | Maliuta | zahna: I suggest you go read the website |
| 16:41.20 | zahna | deadcat: that's funny |
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| 16:41.56 | deadcat | nobody uses NFS anymore? geez |
| 16:41.57 | themill | dpkg: tell zahna about sid |
| 16:42.19 | doublehp | n3kl: man dpkg search "--get-selections" from memory. If you backup your system (what every body should do, so, i can assuming *you are backuping* ... ) the selections is stored in some file in /var .... |
| 16:42.44 | themill | n3kl: /msg dpkg aptitude clone |
| 16:43.10 | doublehp | deadcat: you need to check the NFS parameters on the server ( /etc/export), and play with options. Cant tell from memory, but, your problem got a solution around there. |
| 16:43.21 | doublehp | zahna: Yes |
| 16:43.53 | doublehp | riot: like from outside :) apt-get/dpkg/aptitude /.... |
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| 16:44.34 | zahna | does debian default to NFS v4? |
| 16:44.42 | paxcoder | Did someone manage to make Amaya web editor/browser work on Debian? I actually succeeded to install it, but failed to run it for some inexplicable reason. Now I suppose you can't help me with that if you haven't done it yourself, but is there any chance Amaya might be coming to testing any time soon? I remember when I started with Debian, it wasn't there, and I can't understand how come that's still the case. Does anyone have any info on this? |
| 16:44.44 | doublehp | deadcat: man exports |
| 16:44.46 | deadcat | doublehp: i tried options like changing the anonuid and fsid, and the result is that i still get perm. denied when i cd or ls that dir (own by me, local and remote) |
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| 16:45.48 | doublehp | deadcat: the problem is more around squashing ... IIRC. |
| 16:45.55 | deadcat | doublehp: ah |
| 16:46.23 | doublehp | deadcat: i never mess with users; only root; and it is still already a problem, if you dont setup squashing properly. |
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| 16:47.09 | deadcat | doublehp: k.. i had it working fine (maybe was v3) but my power went out (uptime was like 150+ days) so i dont really know what changed. |
| 16:47.48 | deadcat | doublehp: Map all uids and gids to the anonymous user. Useful for NFS-exported public FTP directories, news spool directories, etc. The opposite option is no_all_squash, which is the default setting. |
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| 16:48.01 | doublehp | deadcat: it is not a matter of "new feature", but that default setings changed. The problem is thus more around "things you left default previously" |
| 16:48.14 | deadcat | doublehp: ya. |
| 16:48.24 | deadcat | doublehp: let me try no_all_squash again |
| 16:48.57 | doublehp | you can do many things with NFS. I will not help you directly fixing it. I dont want to know what you need/want. But, i know what your problem is about, and that the solution is around there. |
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| 16:51.51 | shyam_k | my friend has a dualboot system with lenny and windows xp. He want to get some files from xp's ntfs c: partition and write them to a cd. His normal user cant access the c: partitions and i said him to add /dev/hda1 /media/c auto defaults 0 0 to /etc/fstab and now for root he can get the partitions but not for the user.. |
| 16:52.08 | shyam_k | chmod says "changing permissions: read only filesystem" |
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| 16:52.40 | shyam_k | ah will adding ntfs-3g to /etc/fstab help? in that case he will have to install ntfs-3g right..? |
| 16:52.52 | doublehp | shyam_k: to make it short: is the problem "root can not write to C:" or "user can nor read" ? |
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| 16:53.15 | doublehp | shyam_k: root can not write => use ntfs-3g driver, and "ntfs-3g" as FS type |
| 16:53.16 | shyam_k | doublehp: root can access the drive, but user cannot |
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| 16:53.47 | doublehp | shyam_k: user cant read: change mount options to , for example: defaults,uid=1000,utf8 |
| 16:54.00 | shyam_k | ohk |
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| 16:54.20 | doublehp | shyam_k: after ounting, you may also need to run once "chmod" ... |
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| 16:55.08 | shyam_k | doublehp: but chmod is saying me "changing permissions..<snip> read only file system.." |
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| 16:56.06 | doublehp | shyam_k: => (17:53:15) doublehp_f: shyam_k: root can not write => use ntfs-3g driver, and "ntfs-3g" as FS type |
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| 16:56.38 | doublehp | i meant ... chmoding the ROOT not /, not /mnt/foo/bar/windows/plop |
| 16:56.38 | shyam_k | ohk thanks ill have a try with these things and report.. |
| 16:56.54 | doublehp | but chmod 777 /mnt/winmntpoint (to make it short and permissive) |
| 16:57.05 | doublehp | IF USING ntfs-3g FIRST !!! |
| 16:57.33 | shyam_k | hmm but i fear he is having an old lenny(june/july) can we expect that to have ntfs-3g in it? |
| 16:57.34 | shyam_k | :) |
| 16:57.59 | TiMiDo | shyam_k, search for it |
| 16:57.59 | TiMiDo | =) |
| 16:58.04 | doublehp | Y |
| 16:58.18 | doublehp | ntfs-3g should be in any distro from around 2004 |
| 16:58.40 | doublehp | that's the year about when evey body started to massively use it |
| 16:58.41 | shyam_k | oh ic |
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| 16:59.19 | Linuturk | what's the best way to handle patching and updates for lots of debian servers? |
| 16:59.26 | shyam_k | hasnt used windows xp so havent tried with this mixed situtation.. |
| 16:59.29 | Linuturk | instead of ssh, update, next |
| 16:59.33 | paxcoder | is there any chance Amaya might be coming to testing any time soon? I remember when I started with Debian, it wasn't there, and I can't understand how come that's still the case. Does anyone have any info on this? |
| 17:00.01 | doublehp | Linuturk: there is a cluster anager . See apt-cron and so ... |
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| 17:00.15 | Linuturk | apt-cron? |
| 17:00.17 | Linuturk | ok |
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| 17:01.01 | valdyn | !why is amaya not in testing |
| 17:01.02 | dpkg | amaya is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=amaya |
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| 17:02.20 | doublehp | Linuturk: apt-cron is one thing, but there are large scale other things: proxies, apt-proxy, but also more complex things: set up NFS server on each machine, and, make a single machine client for all those NFS, and, this client will chroot them ... |
| 17:02.46 | riot | doublehp: nah, i mean into an empty chroot |
| 17:03.01 | themill | dpkg: dbugs 440436 |
| 17:03.02 | d-b | doublehp: i like apt-p2p |
| 17:03.04 | dpkg | #440436:C[w3c-libwww] The maintainer plans to request removal of this package from the Debian archive (); Sat, 01 Sep 2007 13:33:02 UTC [] |
| 17:03.06 | themill | paxcoder: ^^ |
| 17:03.43 | Linuturk | doublehp, I'm looking at around 20 servers total. |
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| 17:04.07 | d-b | mmm Linuturk you can parallel ssh... |
| 17:04.22 | Linuturk | d-b, that's a new one to me . . . |
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| 17:05.18 | d-b | ^^ |
| 17:05.25 | burd_lappy | been using madwifi for a while.. on this laptop i can create the vap etc but for some reason the essid just disappears on it's own after about 5 seconds any idea what might be causing this? |
| 17:06.03 | cahoot | checked dmesg for clues? |
| 17:06.09 | paxcoder | themill: do you know where I can get more info (why, why not before, etc)? |
| 17:06.25 | themill | paxcoder: the usual place; read the bug report |
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| 17:06.37 | neo_2008 | hi :-) |
| 17:07.15 | paxcoder | themill: will find i guess. |
| 17:07.38 | burd_lappy | yah i checked all that there is no weirdness i can tell from dmesg, no clues at all so far |
| 17:07.43 | themill | paxcoder: as ever, http://bugs.debian.org/440436 |
| 17:07.53 | neo_2008 | I have a problem concerning the shift from unofficial to official repos in Lenny/Sid |
| 17:07.53 | doublehp | d-b: say that to Linuturk |
| 17:08.05 | burd_lappy | i have a feeling this has something to do with a wireless manager i used in the past or something |
| 17:08.22 | doublehp | Linuturk: whatever you are using , take care about getting logs back. |
| 17:08.47 | burd_lappy | i'm doing an upgrade right now though and there is a new kernel so i'll rebuild madwifi and see if that helps |
| 17:09.02 | paxcoder | themill: thanks bro |
| 17:09.13 | doublehp | Linuturk: see "aptitude search apt |grep cron" |
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| 17:09.33 | Linuturk | http://www.debianadmin.com/automatic-update-of-packages-using-cron-apt.html#more-97 doublehp :) |
| 17:09.34 | doublehp | Linuturk: using blind ssh is usually a bad idea for updates |
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| 17:10.07 | neo_2008 | can anyone help me with that please? |
| 17:10.11 | d-b | doublehp: over apt-cron .. both are blind |
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| 17:10.30 | d-b | --> test on one the roll it out.... |
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| 17:13.55 | neo_2008 | hello? |
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| 17:16.01 | phorce1 | neo_2008: "I have a problem with xxx" is not a question. |
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| 17:16.09 | phorce1 | !tell neo_2008 about ask |
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| 17:18.02 | Seb | what's a good way to get the "class" associated to a given xwindow ? |
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| 17:18.54 | doublehp | seb depends on the WM |
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| 17:19.18 | vignesh | Hey |
| 17:19.26 | vignesh | I am using debian 4.0 R5 |
| 17:19.41 | vignesh | but I feel my system is really slow... |
| 17:19.48 | neo_2008 | ok |
| 17:19.51 | neo_2008 | sorry |
| 17:19.54 | vignesh | I don`t seem to know why |
| 17:20.08 | enouf | Seb: xwininfo? |
| 17:20.16 | neo_2008 | how do I revert from the unofficial repos to the stable ones? |
| 17:20.30 | vignesh | is it because I am using it with etchnhalf kernel ? |
| 17:20.30 | enouf | neo_2008: you don't |
| 17:20.49 | neo_2008 | how do you mean? |
| 17:20.55 | enouf | vignesh: that should work better - check top/htop, vmstat, etc |
| 17:21.08 | jelly | vignesh: you can use "top" to see processes sorted by CPU or memory usage |
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| 17:21.15 | vignesh | without networking.. its slow |
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| 17:21.20 | vignesh | let me check |
| 17:21.43 | jelly | vignesh: "vmstat 1" with non-zero so and si columns to detect swapping (indicating low RAM) |
| 17:21.47 | d-b | neo_2008: its not really possible.... without a lot of effort |
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| 17:21.55 | vignesh | Yes 780Megs of RAM is used |
| 17:22.02 | vignesh | and only 200 or so free |
| 17:22.03 | neo_2008 | enouf: How do you mean that? |
| 17:22.18 | vignesh | I am only running xchat, opera and a terminal |
| 17:22.24 | vignesh | apart from gnome |
| 17:22.24 | jelly | vignesh: that doesn't mean much, unless there's actual swapping going on |
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| 17:22.45 | jelly | vignesh: run top. press M. pastebin the output |
| 17:22.47 | vignesh | the used part keeps increasing |
| 17:22.49 | d-b | vignesh: .... how muich is cache |
| 17:22.52 | enouf | vignesh: you also might want to tell us about your hardware, pastebin lspci -nn outut, lsmod, and as root, run hdparm -i /dev/sda | grep udma (replace sda with each of your HDD names) |
| 17:22.53 | jelly | vignesh: that's capital M |
| 17:22.59 | vignesh | around 400+ |
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| 17:23.08 | enouf | neo_2008: do you know how debian releases work? |
| 17:23.13 | vignesh | ok. hold on |
| 17:23.27 | neo_2008 | no |
| 17:23.34 | neo_2008 | not really |
| 17:23.35 | enouf | vignesh: also output of netstat -tunap as root |
| 17:23.45 | enouf | !tell neo_2008 -about releases |
| 17:24.00 | enouf | neo_2008: what's the issue anyway? |
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| 17:24.40 | enouf | have you mixed etch and lenny? etch and sid? lenny and sid? if so, what, how, where, when, why, and what for :-P |
| 17:24.49 | infinity2 | anyone running lenny on a dell PE 2950? |
| 17:24.58 | neo_2008 | aha |
| 17:25.17 | Seb | enouf: somehow it didn't give me a class name nor a window name, just a window id |
| 17:25.18 | infinity2 | enouf: people alwyas mix versions of debian |
| 17:25.25 | Seb | enouf: so i'm unsure what i'm doing wrong |
| 17:25.31 | enouf | Seb: oh, ok .. hrm// |
| 17:26.00 | neo_2008 | I think ,I have to find another solution to my problem: I am not able to satisfy the dependencies for the compiz-fusion package |
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| 17:26.13 | phorce1 | infinity2: but once you mix it can be a real pain in the rear to "unmix" |
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| 17:26.20 | neo_2008 | Is there another way to do this? |
| 17:26.31 | vignesh | I get command not found for hdparm |
| 17:26.32 | olspookishmagus | hello do you know why Gnome stops from automounting my flash drives? |
| 17:26.33 | xxiao | quit |
| 17:26.52 | vignesh | so I am going to submit the outout of the rest |
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| 17:27.06 | phorce1 | neo_2008: What release are you running and what do you have mixed in with it? |
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| 17:27.28 | enouf | Seb: i'm just not sure offhand, hrm, maybe wmctl? i can't recall the name ... but if not, some x tool does it |
| 17:27.44 | enouf | google maybe - see #xorg-devel maybe? |
| 17:27.46 | neo_2008 | I'm running Lenny/Sid |
| 17:27.47 | vignesh | jelly, d-b , enouf , http://www.pastebin.ca/1241715 |
| 17:28.03 | infinity2 | phorce1: yea. but as long as you don't go and upgrade libc |
| 17:28.13 | enouf | vignesh: you have to install it |
| 17:28.14 | infinity2 | phorce1: acutally. i just usually back-port stuff |
| 17:28.18 | phorce1 | neo_2008: if you have an etch/lenny mix your best bet would probably be to change to all lenny repos and go to a full lenny system |
| 17:28.21 | phorce1 | neo |
| 17:28.25 | vignesh | enouf, yeah doing that |
| 17:28.26 | busfahrer | I guess this gets asked often in here, but is there a *rough* estimate on when Lenny will be released? :-) |
| 17:28.29 | phorce1 | neo_2008: oh -- you're screwed |
| 17:28.41 | vignesh | in the meantime you guys and look at the output of the other commands |
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| 17:28.46 | neo_2008 | hmmm |
| 17:29.02 | Seb | enouf: would k, cool |
| 17:29.03 | neo_2008 | I could try to unscrew me ;-) |
| 17:29.22 | vignesh | enouf, updated the post with hdparm output |
| 17:29.37 | neo_2008 | question is, how to do this? |
| 17:29.46 | vignesh | http://www.pastebin.ca/1241719 |
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| 17:30.18 | valdyn | busfahrer: theres various estimates |
| 17:30.23 | neo_2008 | or maybe I can do something to use a clean 'etch' or 'lenny' system in the future |
| 17:30.25 | valdyn | busfahrer: like mid 2009 |
| 17:30.35 | olspookishmagus | I've read many workarounds none of which to be matching my case |
| 17:30.35 | phorce1 | neo_2008: if you're just running backports you may be able to manually install the official lenny vesions of the backported stuff one-package-at-a-time manually fixing depends as needed |
| 17:30.42 | olspookishmagus | my system could mount my flash disks |
| 17:30.56 | olspookishmagus | without having entries to fstab or mtab file |
| 17:31.10 | olspookishmagus | gnome-volume-manager was never installed |
| 17:31.22 | enouf | vignesh: one HDD? so far, i don't see much |
| 17:31.24 | neo_2008 | running backports? |
| 17:31.28 | olspookishmagus | free-disk option in gnome-configuration-editor does not exist |
| 17:31.39 | olspookishmagus | what else could it be? |
| 17:31.46 | vignesh | enouf, yes. only 1 HDD |
| 17:32.02 | neo_2008 | and how do I figure out what is lenny and what is not? |
| 17:32.10 | enouf | vignesh: are you using cups, portmap, samba and friends? |
| 17:32.20 | vignesh | no. |
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| 17:32.50 | vignesh | I have stopped those services now.. from starting in my default runlevel |
| 17:32.51 | enouf | vignesh: /msg dpkg rcconf (stop unwanted services from starting at boottime) |
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| 17:33.20 | enouf | vignesh: in the meantime, you can kill them through various ways, one is to "/etc/init.d/scriptname stop" for each |
| 17:33.28 | phorce1 | neo_2008: you have sid repo entries in your sources.list or backports.org entries? |
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| 17:33.34 | vignesh | enouf, yes |
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| 17:34.00 | phorce1 | neo_2008: Actually, I think bpo only does backports for stable so you've been pinning to sid directly |
| 17:34.12 | enouf | vignesh: i think vmstat as i and others mentioned would be apropos here |
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| 17:34.59 | enouf | vignesh: and, can you explain slow? do you mean video redrawing the screen? |
| 17:35.05 | vignesh | yes |
| 17:35.16 | enouf | vignesh: are you on Etch or ... |
| 17:35.24 | vignesh | and also in starting apps |
| 17:35.32 | vignesh | yes Etch R5 |
| 17:35.47 | vignesh | with 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 kernel |
| 17:35.55 | phorce1 | neo_2008: before lenny was frozen you might have had a chance by just removing the sid entries and waiting for the lenny version of stuff to "catch up". That's a bit less likely now. |
| 17:35.56 | enouf | hrm .. install glxinfo pkg, run glxinfo | grep -i direct |
| 17:36.09 | emilien | i have a sd usb card and the permission is read only how to i change this ? |
| 17:36.15 | enouf | vignesh: it's in mesa-utils: pkg |
| 17:36.17 | enouf | my bad |
| 17:36.24 | emilien | and what caused this ? |
| 17:37.08 | vignesh | enouf, Error: unable to open display (null) |
| 17:37.12 | enouf | vignesh: might as well try to install libgl1-mesa-dri .. it'll tell you if it's uptodate .. also run "apt-get update" prior |
| 17:37.19 | antgel | got some groupware-type questions. i've deployed opengroupware in the past for clients who needed a shared calendar, but the footprint is so large, and the UI is somewhat clunky. have things moved on in the past few years? is there anything else worth considering? i thought about the sunbird plugin for iceweasel, and phpicalendar as a back-end |
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| 17:38.01 | vignesh | enouf, whats the pkg name again |
| 17:38.06 | enouf | vignesh: it's in mesa-utils: pkg |
| 17:38.07 | vignesh | my graphics card is |
| 17:38.14 | vignesh | that is done |
| 17:38.14 | enouf | no colon |
| 17:38.17 | vignesh | the drivers |
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| 17:38.28 | enouf | as root, run the glxinfo command |
| 17:38.36 | enouf | or sudo, whatever |
| 17:38.37 | vignesh | enouf, Error: unable to open display (null), this is the o/p of glxinfo |
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| 17:38.54 | vignesh | you said also install libgl1-.... |
| 17:38.58 | vignesh | something |
| 17:38.59 | enouf | vignesh: how many displays are hooked up? |
| 17:39.02 | enouf | yes |
| 17:39.06 | enouf | vignesh: might as well try to install libgl1-mesa-dri .. it'll tell you if it's uptodate .. also run "apt-get update" prior |
| 17:39.07 | vignesh | only 1 |
| 17:39.14 | enouf | vignesh: shall i keep repeating? |
| 17:39.19 | vignesh | Hehe. |
| 17:39.32 | vignesh | no.. |
| 17:39.37 | enouf | maybe i can spoon feed you - but i require you wear a bib :-P |
| 17:39.38 | vignesh | That pkg is up to date |
| 17:39.43 | emilien | anyone help me with file permissions error on sd card ? |
| 17:39.43 | vignesh | :) |
| 17:39.54 | enouf | export DISPLAY=:0.0 |
| 17:40.00 | enouf | run glxinfo |
| 17:40.30 | vignesh | enouf, Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server |
| 17:40.30 | vignesh | Xlib: No protocol specified |
| 17:40.32 | cahoot | emilien: does the info in /msg dpkg vfatrw apply? |
| 17:40.51 | enouf | vignesh: grep '(EE)' /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 17:41.00 | enouf | vignesh: grep drv (same file) |
| 17:41.03 | enouf | vignesh: pastebin |
| 17:41.26 | enouf | vignesh: is X even running? |
| 17:41.38 | vignesh | enouf, yes |
| 17:41.41 | enouf | i guess the Server is |
| 17:41.50 | vignesh | I am using xchat and opera and all |
| 17:42.13 | enouf | well .. vignesh dpkg -l 915resolution | tail -n 1 |
| 17:42.26 | vignesh | I have installed it |
| 17:42.45 | vignesh | enouf, http://www.pastebin.ca/1241736 |
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| 17:44.15 | emilien | need help changing permissions on usb |
| 17:44.18 | olspookishmagus | how does gnome mount and unmount flash drives on its own? without the need for having entries to the fstab or mtab files? |
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| 17:44.38 | abrotman | run glxinfo as the user |
| 17:44.40 | vignesh | olspookishmagus, using mount command |
| 17:44.46 | abrotman | emilien: check the mount point perms |
| 17:44.57 | cahoot | olspookishmagus: via gnome-volume-manager IIRC |
| 17:45.06 | valdyn | olspookishmagus: im sure it does have mtab entries |
| 17:45.12 | olspookishmagus | vignesh: welll running the mount command says only root can do it |
| 17:45.14 | vignesh | abrotman, now i get an output |
| 17:45.52 | valdyn | olspookishmagus: so? |
| 17:46.02 | valdyn | olspookishmagus: all that means is that gnome runs mount as root |
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| 17:46.18 | emilien | abrotman: yes , im using thunar whent to permission and changed still only root acces |
| 17:46.23 | vignesh | abrotman, enouf, http://www.pastebin.ca/1241739 |
| 17:46.33 | vignesh | o/p of glxinfo as user |
| 17:46.44 | olspookishmagus | I type: |
| 17:46.44 | olspookishmagus | ps -A | grep volume |
| 17:46.44 | olspookishmagus | and take no results but when I try to run gnome-volume-manager I get that there is no such command |
| 17:46.56 | valdyn | olspookishmagus: so? |
| 17:47.23 | enouf | vignesh: got busy here.. |
| 17:47.40 | olspookishmagus | so gnome-volume-manager is not running and I can't get it starting, would you say restarting X server will make it come alive again; |
| 17:48.03 | vignesh | Ah.. |
| 17:48.12 | valdyn | olspookishmagus: why? |
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| 17:48.19 | valdyn | olspookishmagus: why are you trying to get it running? |
| 17:48.38 | olspookishmagus | valdyn: because I want to hotplug a flash disk and see Gnome mounting it for me |
| 17:48.40 | enouf | hrm .. what is the v4l_drv.so ? oh duh, video4linux? |
| 17:48.40 | valdyn | olspookishmagus: youre confusing your goal ( to mount stuff autmagically ), with an entirely made up method |
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| 17:48.51 | vignesh | enouf, yes I think so |
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| 17:49.08 | vignesh | enouf, what does that do actually, helps to play videos ? |
| 17:49.11 | olspookishmagus | valdyn: it's not an entirely made up method, Gnome used to do it, but now it doesn't and I didn't `fiddle' with it |
| 17:49.30 | enouf | libGL error: reverting to (slow) indirect rendering |
| 17:49.37 | enouf | well, that's not too good |
| 17:49.49 | enouf | vignesh: yeah .. tv/dvb/pvr |
| 17:49.53 | cahoot | olspookishmagus: gnome automount usb-keys here even if they're not listed in fstab |
| 17:50.05 | vignesh | enouf, oh.. so I don`t require that I guess |
| 17:50.11 | olspookishmagus | cahoot: I know, that happened here too |
| 17:50.36 | enouf | vignesh: i guess not .. i'm not certain .. why is it loading is what i want to know - but it seems you glx is a bit messed up |
| 17:50.39 | olspookishmagus | I'm looking into a. why it stopped b. how can I get it working like it did again |
| 17:50.41 | enouf | your* |
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| 17:50.52 | vignesh | enouf, also.. after installing etchnhalf, I installed intel drivers from backports.. and that is being used now... do you think reverting to i810 driver will solve this |
| 17:51.10 | cahoot | olspookishmagus: try start it? |
| 17:51.13 | enouf | vignesh: i would upgrade to the etch-backports kernel |
| 17:51.20 | vignesh | enouf, but is v4l the problem ? |
| 17:51.26 | vignesh | enouf, I am using that |
| 17:51.33 | enouf | vignesh: i don't know :-/ |
| 17:51.48 | vignesh | 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 kernel |
| 17:51.50 | enouf | i don't even know why it would be loading |
| 17:51.57 | enouf | vignesh: that's etchnhalf |
| 17:52.03 | vignesh | I can disable it |
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| 17:52.11 | vignesh | in xorgconfig |
| 17:52.12 | enouf | vignesh: there;s a .26 in bakcports |
| 17:52.30 | enouf | and .. if worse comes to worse, you know your way around the system enough to use lenny |
| 17:52.39 | vignesh | Hehe. yes |
| 17:52.42 | enouf | xorgconfig? |
| 17:52.45 | enouf | wtf? |
| 17:52.47 | enouf | !drxx |
| 17:52.48 | dpkg | To reconfigure your X server, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as root. If you're not using Xorg (sarge or earlier), dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 but ask me about <sarge->etch>. From lenny onwards, most of these settings are configured by your desktop environment or with xrandr. You can still make a minimalist /etc/X11/xorg.conf, however. |
| 17:52.49 | vignesh | yes.. |
| 17:52.53 | olspookishmagus | lol, here it was -> /usr/lib/gnome-volume-manager/gnome-volume-manager |
| 17:53.04 | vignesh | In that it asks for modules and I enabled v4l as well |
| 17:53.07 | enouf | vignesh: run drxx as dpkg mentioned |
| 17:53.12 | enouf | well, disable it |
| 17:53.17 | olspookishmagus | any idea WHY could it crash? |
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| 17:53.38 | enouf | vignesh: enable all the dri/drm stuff though |
| 17:53.52 | vignesh | ok |
| 17:53.53 | enouf | vignesh: say NOT to kernel framebuffer |
| 17:53.57 | enouf | er .. no |
| 17:54.19 | vignesh | what about use kernel framebuffer device interface ? |
| 17:54.24 | enouf | no no no no |
| 17:54.37 | enouf | yo yo ma! |
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| 17:54.42 | vignesh | also is it a must to enter amount of video memory |
| 17:54.45 | enouf | boutros boutros ghali |
| 17:54.48 | vignesh | ok.. no to frambuffer |
| 17:55.11 | enouf | vignesh: well .. heh, set that up in your BIOS and tell it how much you set aside, leaving it blank is ok too |
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| 17:55.40 | vignesh | what about glx ? |
| 17:55.51 | vignesh | I have disabled v4l |
| 17:55.54 | enouf | vignesh: dmesg will tell you how much is set aside, also, if you feel like doing hex conversions, cat /proc/mtrr and cat /proc/iomem |
| 17:56.00 | enouf | enable that |
| 17:56.04 | vignesh | ok |
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| 17:56.21 | enouf | vignesh: lsmod | egrep 'intel|915|i8x' |
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| 17:57.11 | vignesh | i915 is 22144 |
| 17:57.14 | lordcian | hi there! using lenny dist-up'ed from etch - install python-moinmoin and apache2, and follows README.Debian.gz from moin u/s/docs to the letter...but I only get the 'Index of /mysite' in apache, and a warning when starting: [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts |
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| 17:57.44 | lordcian | is this an appropriate place to ask, or should I jump to #apache? |
| 17:58.04 | enouf | vignesh: so, now, dpkg -L 915resolution | grep doc and read the docs, and hit the man page for both that, and man intel .. if you upgrade to lenny, 915resoluton is gone |
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| 17:58.19 | vignesh | ok |
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| 17:59.50 | valdyn | lordcian: etch was an apache setup and now you migrated to apache2 too? |
| 17:59.50 | vignesh | let me restart X server |
| 17:59.50 | enouf | vignesh: see what glxinfo says again, and from time to time about fdirect rendering |
| 17:59.50 | vignesh | rthanks enouf |
| 17:59.51 | enouf | yep |
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| 18:00.02 | lordcian | valdyn: no, base etch install, update upgrade, migrate sources.list to lenny, update dist-upgrade, aptitude install apache python-moinmoin and accepted dependencies |
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| 18:01.02 | vignesh | Hey enouf |
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| 18:01.04 | lordcian | apache2.2-common was selected by aptitude |
| 18:01.08 | enouf | vignesh: hey |
| 18:01.26 | vignesh | glxinfo does not say any error on dri |
| 18:01.27 | enouf | lordcian: aptitude will install recommends by default |
| 18:01.37 | enouf | vignesh: does it say Yes? |
| 18:01.39 | vignesh | but I still see Slow here and there |
| 18:01.44 | lordcian | yes: accepted recommends. |
| 18:01.49 | valdyn | lordcian: you need a DirectoryIndex setting for your site |
| 18:01.53 | vignesh | enouf, direct rendering: Yes |
| 18:02.02 | enouf | lordcian: just know, dependencies != recommends |
| 18:02.12 | lordcian | in default-site or mywiki |
| 18:02.21 | lordcian | enouf: gotcha! :) thanks |
| 18:02.21 | valdyn | lordcian: that option specifies which file(w) will be read by default, like index.html |
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| 18:02.24 | vignesh | Its bette than before.. I think :) |
| 18:02.26 | enouf | vignesh: ok, that's the best we can do for major video improvement for now |
| 18:02.34 | vignesh | yup |
| 18:02.40 | tmccrary | Did /dev/nfs get removed from the initrd's for newer debian releases? |
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| 18:02.58 | lordcian | ah! googling syntax. will report back. |
| 18:03.35 | lordcian | so: DirectoryIndex moin.cgi? |
| 18:03.36 | enouf | vignesh: some software you choose to run is .. er .. bloated :-) for lack of a better term |
| 18:03.43 | vignesh | enouf, how do I get to know all this stuff as younow |
| 18:03.51 | valdyn | lordcian: probably |
| 18:03.57 | vignesh | enouf, you mean opera ? |
| 18:04.00 | enouf | vignesh: you are on your way - being insanely focused :-) |
| 18:04.14 | enouf | vignesh: not really opera , because there are much worse |
| 18:04.22 | vignesh | xchat |
| 18:04.26 | enouf | vignesh: though i never used opear |
| 18:04.39 | enouf | vignesh: no, i mean DE == Desktop Environment |
| 18:04.39 | vignesh | I used to use iceweasel |
| 18:04.48 | enouf | !links2 |
| 18:04.48 | dpkg | i heard links2 is a text and graphics browser with https and javascript. http://packages.debian.org/links2, or for using in Console as GUI (with mouse and keys support), see /usr/share/doc/links2/README.Debian (so you can use as regular non-root user) Ask me about <links2 settings> |
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| 18:04.55 | enouf | is what i use |
| 18:04.58 | vignesh | but it keeps crashing when I see a flash video |
| 18:05.07 | enouf | !youtube script |
| 18:05.07 | dpkg | youtube script is, like, see http://wiki.multimedia.cx/index.php?title=MPlayer_youtube_script so you can instantly watch youtube videos using mplayer No need for big BLOATED browsers and their Plugins and Extensions.. Recently updated (August 09 2008 - thanks amphi) added versatility and improved functionality. An alternate is the 'youtube-dl' pkg |
| 18:05.10 | enouf | is what i use |
| 18:05.15 | vignesh | and pages where there are more than 1 video |
| 18:05.17 | enouf | with mplayer - add dmm repos |
| 18:05.25 | vignesh | nice |
| 18:05.34 | vignesh | will try that |
| 18:05.35 | enouf | !tell vignesh -about dmme |
| 18:05.43 | vignesh | opera doesn`t crash but its slow |
| 18:05.51 | enouf | oh .. bad bad |
| 18:06.00 | enouf | !firepoop |
| 18:06.04 | enouf | heh |
| 18:06.28 | vignesh | what`s firepoop |
| 18:06.31 | enouf | vignesh: some people use 'clive' is it? |
| 18:06.43 | lordcian | i thought ScriptAlias /MyWiki "/var/www/mywiki/moin.cgi" did that, but I have now inserted "DirectoryIndex moin.cgi" after "DocumentRoot /var/www/mywiki/" and restarted, with same result |
| 18:06.46 | enouf | vignesh: my nomenclature for firefox |
| 18:06.51 | vignesh | Heh |
| 18:07.28 | vignesh | enouf, which is the best front end to mplayer |
| 18:07.30 | vignesh | gmplayer ? |
| 18:07.35 | sandman | What is firepoop? |
| 18:07.39 | enouf | i guess .. |
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| 18:08.03 | enouf | vignesh: there are so many variants people use, but the 3 main choices are mplayer, vlc, xine |
| 18:08.05 | vignesh | Heh.. |
| 18:08.08 | phorce1 | hasn't managed to crah iceweasel in a while now. |
| 18:08.14 | enouf | and those are the backends, IINM |
| 18:08.17 | phorce1 | s/crah/crash/ |
| 18:08.21 | vignesh | I have vlc installed.. it plays flv files as well |
| 18:08.39 | enouf | phorce1: version? |
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| 18:08.57 | phorce1 | enouf: 3.03 |
| 18:09.12 | Goga777 | how can I install /usr/src/linux-kbuild-2.6.27 for my debian testing with kernel 2.6.27 |
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| 18:09.16 | enouf | vignesh: be careful about using ` .. i just saw .. a ` is not a ' |
| 18:09.21 | lordcian | valdyn: any further thoughts? |
| 18:09.28 | vignesh | which one enouf ? |
| 18:09.32 | phorce1 | and I leave a LOT of instances with a LOT of tabs open 24/7 |
| 18:09.39 | enouf | vignesh: <vignesh> what`s firepoop |
| 18:09.43 | vignesh | Oh |
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| 18:09.45 | vignesh | Hehe |
| 18:09.46 | enouf | should be ' |
| 18:09.48 | vignesh | ok |
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| 18:09.55 | n0mad | mdadm em how to specify different drives/partitions |
| 18:09.56 | n0mad | ? |
| 18:10.06 | valdyn | lordcian: youre allowing the directory to be listed before seeing the index file |
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| 18:10.10 | vignesh | enouf, its like people say winblows for windows |
| 18:10.15 | enouf | vignesh: do this; readlink -f `which rename` |
| 18:10.19 | valdyn | Lorvija: Options Indexes |
| 18:10.21 | vignesh | firepoop for firefox |
| 18:10.25 | enouf | vignesh: then ... do this; readlink -f 'which rename' |
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| 18:10.34 | lordcian | ah! order is important? |
| 18:10.39 | valdyn | Lorvija: but im not that familiar with apache2 really, just got my few sites set up np |
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| 18:11.10 | n0mad | em is this will be corect (im learning)? mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=0 --raid-devices=2 /dev/sdb4 /dev/sda2 |
| 18:11.28 | vignesh | enouf, it shows my home directory with which and rename |
| 18:11.42 | valdyn | damn tab completion |
| 18:11.54 | vignesh | and prename / |
| 18:11.56 | vignesh | ? |
| 18:12.04 | vignesh | funny.. what is that |
| 18:12.05 | enouf | vignesh: you seem young, bright, impressionable, and a bit intelligent .. but quick .. so, ignore this tired old man's ravings ;-) Just promise me you'll stay away from "Frameworks" and anything that comes close, like AJAX,etc |
| 18:12.20 | vignesh | enouf, sure :) |
| 18:12.23 | enouf | vignesh: one worked, one didn't |
| 18:12.27 | tmccrary | So... CONFIG_NFS_ROOT is gone from the kernel now? |
| 18:12.29 | tmccrary | ???? |
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| 18:12.35 | enouf | because of the diff between ` and ' |
| 18:12.39 | vignesh | yes |
| 18:12.47 | enouf | vignesh: use $() instead of `` |
| 18:13.01 | enouf | vignesh: then ... do this; readlink -f $(which rename) |
| 18:13.04 | vignesh | I use that while installing kernel-headers |
| 18:13.17 | vignesh | apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 18:13.18 | enouf | !tell vignesh -about abs |
| 18:13.36 | enouf | right |
| 18:13.47 | vignesh | thats the advanced bash scripting guide |
| 18:13.52 | vignesh | I have that |
| 18:14.00 | enouf | tmccrary: which kernel? |
| 18:14.21 | tmccrary | 2.6.27 |
| 18:14.33 | valdyn | tmccrary: wrong channel |
| 18:14.42 | tmccrary | yeah I just asked in #kernel |
| 18:14.42 | enouf | grep CONFIG_NFS_ROOT /boot/config-2.6.26-1-686 <-- nada |
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| 18:14.46 | enouf | she's dead jim |
| 18:14.54 | tmccrary | enouf: same here, I wonder what happened |
| 18:14.59 | tmccrary | google tells me nothing :( |
| 18:15.13 | enouf | tmccrary: changelogs - and http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_27 |
| 18:15.19 | enouf | and earlier versions |
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| 18:15.39 | enouf | and /Documentation/feature-removal-schedule.txt maybbe |
| 18:15.45 | vignesh | enouf, so any other books I can read other than abs ? |
| 18:16.51 | enouf | vignesh: well, tldp.org is loaded ;-) .. but sure, see Linux kernel in a nutshell, lwn.net, kerneltrap,.org and the site above, as well as kernel docs |
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| 18:17.34 | enouf | vignesh: i'm going to start charging you to have my private stash :-) |
| 18:17.35 | vignesh | and basic troubleshooting like what we went through now.. |
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| 18:17.41 | enouf | well.. |
| 18:17.43 | vignesh | Heh.. sure np |
| 18:17.50 | enouf | you want to learn about hardware |
| 18:17.53 | vignesh | its all for knowledge |
| 18:17.57 | enouf | i'm kidding |
| 18:17.58 | vignesh | yes.. |
| 18:18.01 | vignesh | h/w too |
| 18:18.27 | enouf | vignesh: find books by scott mueller, and others, see informit.xxx whatever it is |
| 18:18.27 | vignesh | I recently got my lappy repaired when everyone said its dead.. had to replace it power supply |
| 18:18.53 | enouf | vignesh: interfacebus.com, formfactors.org |
| 18:19.08 | enouf | vignesh: i know .. you have a craptop |
| 18:19.29 | vignesh | Heh |
| 18:19.35 | enouf | not the best to learn on .. VERY proprietary .. build your own Desktops |
| 18:19.36 | vignesh | a lenovo 3000 N100 |
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| 18:19.51 | amphi | bah, desktops |
| 18:19.56 | amphi | ;) |
| 18:20.03 | enouf | caresses amphi |
| 18:20.10 | enouf | just because, he |
| 18:20.18 | enouf | 's the exception |
| 18:20.51 | vignesh | enouf, your on a desktop or laptop ? |
| 18:21.04 | enouf | almsot everyone else that talks about craptops, is derserving of said mnemonic |
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| 18:21.18 | enouf | vignesh: i'm on 1999 stuff babay! |
| 18:21.31 | vignesh | 1999 / |
| 18:21.32 | enouf | heh |
| 18:21.35 | vignesh | Heh |
| 18:22.09 | enouf | vignesh: seen thinkwiki.org yet? |
| 18:22.25 | vignesh | nope |
| 18:22.54 | enouf | goes out to grab some more adult beverage refreshment ;-) |
| 18:23.01 | enouf | amphi: bbs ;-) |
| 18:23.08 | amphi | \o/ |
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| 18:23.15 | enouf | hhahaha |
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| 18:30.51 | vignesh | ok bye enouf |
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| 18:30.59 | vignesh | cya tomorrow |
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| 18:33.04 | cezar | hi, I am getting 403 trying to browse a symlink w/ apache, and it turns out that the symlink is owned by root, but when I do 'chown www-data symlink' it fails to change the permissions, and it just stays set to root |
| 18:33.09 | cezar | is there a way around this? |
| 18:33.29 | cezar | the place the symlink is pointing to IS owned by www-data, just the symlink itself is a problem |
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| 18:35.50 | bahaa2008 | hi |
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| 18:36.08 | bahaa2008 | i wanna to ask about the w32-installer |
| 18:36.19 | bahaa2008 | debian.exe |
| 18:36.22 | Neaai | cezar: isn't there a directive followsymlinks or the like, that needs to be taken care of in apache ? |
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| 18:36.30 | bahaa2008 | is it like wubi in ubuntu ? |
| 18:37.15 | cezar | Neaai: the directive is there |
| 18:37.19 | cezar | however the problem is not with apache |
| 18:37.30 | cezar | the problem is, my symlink won't change permissions from anything but root owned |
| 18:37.35 | bahaa2008 | if now how can i migrate from ubuntu to debian |
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| 18:39.32 | Neaai | cezar: maybe you need to <Directory> Allow from all </Directory> that directory. |
| 18:39.41 | phorce1 | what/where is a walkthrough/documentation on building a VM machine around lenny? Multiple, separate, servers, all lenny, on a single dual core box? |
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| 18:39.50 | gngkai | hi all |
| 18:40.00 | gngkai | I'm experiencing strange issues on a lenny box |
| 18:40.12 | gngkai | I have other lenny and no problems |
| 18:40.30 | gngkai | on this one I noticed frequent segfaults |
| 18:40.36 | gngkai | on several software |
| 18:40.43 | gngkai | today it happens on ssh too! |
| 18:40.49 | Neaai | phorce1: I have found good documentaion on how to do Xen with Etch. |
| 18:40.57 | Neaai | phorce1: online that is |
| 18:41.02 | gngkai | is that lenny or is it ram? |
| 18:41.02 | phorce1 | gngkai: hardware failure |
| 18:41.22 | gngkai | phorce1: maybe ram? |
| 18:41.23 | Neaai | gngkai: probably bad ram |
| 18:41.31 | lordcian | Any idea why apache wont execute my cgi, but instead will only list the contents of the directory? : http://paste.pocoo.org/show/89715/ |
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| 18:41.37 | phorce1 | gngkai: probably RAM. |
| 18:42.03 | gngkai | it's strange because this box was working perfectly when using debian woody |
| 18:42.39 | gngkai | then I scratched it some weeks ago and I put on lenny |
| 18:42.46 | Neaai | gngkai: The same happens if you try it with a livecd ? |
| 18:42.54 | phorce1 | I guess I'm kind of asking if anyone here is RUNNING VM and prefer xen or something else? And why? |
| 18:43.19 | gngkai | Neaai: segfaults appears after a while |
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| 18:43.33 | gngkai | I haven't tried with a live |
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| 18:43.39 | Neaai | phorce1: I have done some basic Xen. I haven't looked into anything else as Xen did what I needed so I moved along. |
| 18:43.49 | phorce1 | gngkai: lenny is ... uhhh ... a bit larger footprint than woody. I'm sure it's poking into RAM segments that haven't been touched in years. |
| 18:44.10 | gngkai | phorce1: good remark |
| 18:44.19 | Neaai | phorce1: basically, I got the repository Zen packages, and then built the DomU's via debootstrap |
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| 18:44.29 | Haris_ | Hello people |
| 18:44.36 | Haris_ | bbl |
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| 18:45.18 | gngkai | is there a way I can tell linux to ignore a bank ram? |
| 18:45.37 | gngkai | at the moment I cannot manually remove it |
| 18:45.54 | stew | gngkai: perhaaps kernel-patch-badram |
| 18:46.57 | gngkai | that's something I looked. it can be interesting |
| 18:47.21 | phorce1 | Neaai: Thanks. I'll go poke around google a bit more if my customers will leave me alone long enough. I have 3 very low use servers that I want to stick on a single machine to free up boxes for other uses. |
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| 18:47.58 | lindenle | How do i presee my ldap configuration using the debian installer |
| 18:48.02 | keith4 | what's the proper way to determine if a local user exists, given a username? for use in a script |
| 18:48.29 | Neaai | phorce1: I am looking for this nice page describing Xen for Debian |
| 18:48.40 | abrotman | keith4: getent |
| 18:49.23 | keith4 | abrotman: thankyousir |
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| 18:52.07 | phorce1 | keith4: if all users have a home directory then the EASY way is to use an "if exist /home/user/" |
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| 18:52.29 | abrotman | getent is better! |
| 18:52.52 | abrotman | phorce1: # mkdir /home/falseuserhomedir/ ... that would return a false positive |
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| 18:54.09 | keith4 | yah.. "getend passwd user" seems to do it |
| 18:54.15 | phorce1 | abrotman: it would also report false positives for users who were removed without removing the old homedir, but that's administrative cleanup stuff that should be done |
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| 18:54.31 | abrotman | phorce1: yay getent! |
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| 19:05.50 | simon1245 | How to install things in Debian? |
| 19:05.57 | simon1245 | Can i do sudo apt-get install |
| 19:06.14 | abrotman | if you have sudo setup |
| 19:06.18 | abrotman | !grounding |
| 19:06.18 | dpkg | Before asking in here or on debian-user, you should read the install guide, or if you have already installed, the debian reference, the apt howto. Ask me about <ig>, <docs>, <manuals>, <reference>, <fundamentals>, <newbiedoc>, <refcard>, <faq>, <unix lessons>, <general cli tutorial>. (e.g. in your irc client, type /msg dpkg reference) |
| 19:06.25 | simon1245 | How to set it up |
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| 19:06.57 | abrotman | you don't need to setup sudo if you don't want to |
| 19:07.10 | simon1245 | I want to |
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| 19:07.15 | abrotman | so install sudo |
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| 19:07.28 | simon1245 | From aptitude? |
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| 19:07.37 | Nuno | Hi Folks |
| 19:07.49 | maestro444 | hello, does anybody know how cryptsetup works? |
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| 19:10.18 | Blastur | how can I configure debian to not allow users to be able to read / access eachothers files/dirs by default? |
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| 19:11.52 | keith4 | Blastur: google "unix file permissions" |
| 19:12.15 | abrotman | !permissions |
| 19:12.16 | dpkg | For more information on permissions, read info coreutils 'File Permissions' and http://wooledge.org/mywiki/Permissions or http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/usersguide/linux_ugfilesp.html - for even further info see these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_permission and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chmod, or follow the setuid and setgid links found in the wikipedia pages, or http://wiki.debian.org/Permissions |
| 19:12.38 | stew | Blastur: also "dpkg-reconfigure adduser" |
| 19:12.54 | stew | Blastur: (which will affect future users added to the system, not current users) |
| 19:13.00 | Blastur | thanks |
| 19:13.03 | abrotman | i thought they changed that debconf to not ask that |
| 19:13.52 | stew | abrotman: its still there in 3.110 |
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| 19:14.13 | abrotman | i just don't recall being asked that with any etch installations |
| 19:14.20 | abrotman | guess he'll find out |
| 19:14.48 | Nuno | i have debian etch and samba 3.0.40 IIRC so i have some issues in a vista client :) whend i upload drivers. Exist any tips to fix this? (api_rpcTNP: spoolss: SPOOLSS_ADDPRINTERDRIVEREX failed.) THANKS |
| 19:15.03 | stew | abrotman: db_input medium adduser/homedir-permission || true |
| 19:15.13 | abrotman | good enough for me! |
| 19:15.16 | stew | abrotman: were you installing with debconf on high? |
| 19:15.22 | lem0n | how might i change the extensions of many files in a directory? |
| 19:15.25 | abrotman | stew: nope |
| 19:15.30 | stoned | rename? |
| 19:15.35 | lem0n | ie, for example, *.txt to *.dat |
| 19:15.36 | stoned | or a bash loop |
| 19:15.39 | lem0n | yeah |
| 19:15.40 | abrotman | lem0n: man rename |
| 19:15.41 | lem0n | i figured a bash loop |
| 19:15.45 | stoned | no rename |
| 19:15.46 | Blastur | abrotman: seems like stew is right.. it asks if i want system wide readable homes |
| 19:15.47 | lem0n | oh, rename |
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| 19:15.48 | lem0n | thought you meant mv |
| 19:15.52 | lem0n | thanks :) |
| 19:15.53 | stoned | no rename |
| 19:15.54 | Blastur | exactly what i dont want :) |
| 19:15.56 | abrotman | Blastur: and that's only for new users |
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| 19:16.23 | Blastur | how can i change it for existing users? |
| 19:16.31 | Blastur | i recon its something with this umask? |
| 19:16.31 | stew | Blastur: with chmod |
| 19:17.00 | Blastur | but what about newly created files, created by users who existed before reconfiguring adduser? |
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| 19:17.57 | stew | Blastur: newly created files get permissions based on umask, yes, this isn't affected by reconfiguring adduser, reconfiguring adduser just makes people's home directories chmod 700 |
| 19:18.24 | Blastur | oh |
| 19:18.48 | Blastur | so with my current config, users can not read any files from other users, only access their home dirs? |
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| 19:19.19 | Nuno | btw is samba 3.0.24-6etch10 samba-common 3.0.24-6etch10 etc |
| 19:20.35 | Blastur | it seems like all files have "r" set for 'others' |
| 19:20.43 | Blastur | so i guess i need to change the umask for each user aswell |
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| 19:26.16 | enouf | stew: what about useradd and /etc/default/useradd? applicable to what you were discussing about adduser? or no - i just came back |
| 19:26.35 | Computer | Error in /var/log/syslog when trying to partition Debian under qemu: |
| 19:26.49 | Computer | EXT3-fs error (device dha1): ext3_check_descriptors |
| 19:27.04 | Computer | Block bitmat for group 16 not in group (block 0)! |
| 19:27.08 | stew | enouf: not related. useradd doesn't create any directories |
| 19:27.20 | Computer | EXT3-fs: group descriptors corrupted! |
| 19:27.25 | stew | (useradd is called by adduser to do the actual modifying of passwd) |
| 19:27.35 | enouf | Blastur: chfn, and vipw are also other usermod tools .. oh, nm, ok stew, i misunderstood |
| 19:28.23 | enouf | dha1, eh? |
| 19:28.26 | enouf | :-P |
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| 19:28.45 | infinity2 | anyone running lenny on a dell PE 2950? |
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| 19:29.44 | enouf | Computer: you might want to parse your FS, whichever you think qemu is loading/mounting/using as root with dumpe2fs, and tune2fs |
| 19:30.04 | Nuno | anyone had that issue then? i re search in all the place for this issue! :) |
| 19:30.11 | enouf | oh, just saw the corrupted part |
| 19:30.18 | enouf | welp - fsck it is |
| 19:31.13 | enouf | what issue? |
| 19:31.26 | Nuno | [19:14]<Nuno>i have debian etch and samba 3.0.40 IIRC so i have some issues in a vista client :) whend i upload drivers. Exist any tips to fix this? (api_rpcTNP: spoolss: SPOOLSS_ADDPRINTERDRIVEREX failed.) THANKS |
| 19:31.34 | Nuno | [19:19]<Nuno>btw is samba 3.0.24-6etch10 samba-common 3.0.24-6etch10 etc |
| 19:31.54 | enouf | man, that's some nasty irc client |
| 19:31.56 | n3kl | Anyone know of like a picard type application for avis and mpeg? |
| 19:32.36 | Nuno | enouf: sorry? |
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| 19:32.45 | enouf | Nuno: add printer and spooling .. |
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| 19:33.08 | enouf | are you using cups? |
| 19:33.13 | Nuno | yap |
| 19:33.23 | enouf | which DE to comm between Blista and Linux? |
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| 19:33.48 | Larcen_ | hi all |
| 19:33.56 | enouf | n3kl: i know that word (picard) .. do not make me google it's definition |
| 19:34.20 | Nuno | enouf: is debian server so it's by ssh |
| 19:34.22 | Craigevil | capt picard? |
| 19:34.25 | enouf | n3kl: avis is a car rental place, mpeg is a MPAA thing |
| 19:34.47 | Nuno | all is fine except that stuff uplod drivers :) |
| 19:34.56 | n3kl | enouf: damnit with you de-bloat! |
| 19:35.05 | enouf | Nuno: ssh eh? let's see the command |
| 19:35.21 | n3kl | enouf: picard is an app to tag mp3s, I want something that will tag or at least rename my movies |
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| 19:35.28 | enouf | Nuno: what/why are you uploading? |
| 19:35.46 | Nuno | printer drivers |
| 19:35.53 | enouf | Nuno: Blista can't use linux drivers - they are too hot ;-) |
| 19:36.01 | Nuno | oh |
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| 19:36.17 | enouf | n3kl: oh .. apt-cache search id3v ? |
| 19:36.26 | n3kl | v? |
| 19:36.31 | enouf | well |
| 19:36.36 | enouf | forget the v :-P |
| 19:36.54 | n3kl | but moveies dont' use id3, do they? |
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| 19:37.22 | Nuno | uhmm someone make that before i will grab the how to |
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| 19:39.22 | Computer | enouf, I just tried making a different image with qemu-img. I don't know anything about tunable filesystem parameters |
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| 19:41.26 | enouf | n3kl: i don't know - ask the MPAA ;-) |
| 19:41.32 | Nuno | enouf: http://translate.google.pt/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.guiadohardware.net%2Ftutoriais%2Fimpressoras-samba%2Fpagina2.html&sl=pt&tl=en&hl=pt-PT&ie=UTF-8 |
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| 19:42.00 | aaaadkasjdlas | please guys... what is wrong with that: for i in $( ls ); do rm $i; done |
| 19:42.00 | enouf | n3kl: i think it's am mp3 thing, or audio only |
| 19:42.04 | n3kl | enouf: i'll be sure to write them a letter |
| 19:42.15 | enouf | aaaadkasjdlas: never EVER use ls like that |
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| 19:42.37 | enouf | n3kl: well, .. heh |
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| 19:42.55 | enouf | aaaadkasjdlas: cd dir/ ; for i in * |
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| 19:43.13 | htmlol | yeah use a * instead of ls. |
| 19:43.15 | enouf | aaaadkasjdlas: find is better |
| 19:43.26 | enouf | or even echo, not ls |
| 19:43.35 | n3kl | if there is a space in teh file name, $i will pass incorrectly still |
| 19:43.50 | enouf | windows weenies |
| 19:43.52 | enouf | use find |
| 19:44.04 | n3kl | find ftw |
| 19:44.05 | enouf | -print0 | xargs -0 |
| 19:44.11 | stew | n3kl: no, it works with a space |
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| 19:44.23 | enouf | yeah .. see? ;-) |
| 19:44.26 | aaaadkasjdlas | enouf thank you =) I'm using ls because my find doesn't have -maxdepth and I dont want to find subdirs |
| 19:44.27 | enouf | i told you! |
| 19:44.30 | enouf | ;-0 |
| 19:44.41 | xand | !etch->lenny |
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| 19:44.50 | enouf | aaaadkasjdlas: how can your find not have -maxdepth? |
| 19:44.58 | stew | aaaadkasjdlas: why would your find not have -maxdepth? |
| 19:45.08 | xand | doesn't dpkg respond in here anymore |
| 19:45.18 | aaaadkasjdlas | I don't know haha... this find version doesnt have and I can't change it |
| 19:45.21 | aaaadkasjdlas | this is sunOS |
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| 19:45.28 | zelrikriando | hello |
| 19:45.31 | enouf | !literal etch->lenny |
| 19:45.31 | dpkg | "etch->lenny" is "<reply>Ensure your etch installation is up to date (aptitude update; aptitude dist-upgrade). Edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and change all non-local mentions of etch or stable to lenny. aptitude update; aptitude install dpkg aptitude; aptitude full-upgrade. Subscribe to <d-d-a> so you know what is going on and ask me about <apt-listbugs> <lenny release notes>." |
| 19:45.35 | enouf | ;-) |
| 19:45.38 | aaaadkasjdlas | but ls can solve my problem, thank you guys |
| 19:45.47 | n3kl | stew: for x in * ... works with a space in the name? Perhaps I have been doing it wrong for years. |
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| 19:46.10 | enouf | thank you for visiting #debian with sunos tools |
| 19:46.29 | stoned | hm |
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| 19:47.10 | enouf | aaaadkasjdlas: greycat will love you - please visit #bash |
| 19:47.31 | stew | n3kl: mkdir /tmp/foo && cd /tmp/foo && touch "a b" c d e && for a in * ;do rm "$a"; done |
| 19:47.54 | n3kl | stew: "$oic" |
| 19:48.08 | n3kl | stew: leaving out the quotes will fail though |
| 19:48.19 | aaaadkasjdlas | enouf whhat's the difference between * (that works) and for i in $( ls ) (that doesn't work)? |
| 19:48.24 | enouf | stew: wow .. you're starting to remind me of a google employee i know who's extremely proficient with bash and c and c++ ;-) |
| 19:48.36 | enouf | aaaadkasjdlas: ls sucks ass |
| 19:48.53 | enouf | aaaadkasjdlas: ls has it's own form of output |
| 19:48.54 | stew | n3kl: no, it works without the quotes too |
| 19:48.56 | xand | aaaadkasjdlas: why are you even asking here? |
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| 19:49.02 | somnambulant | can we still use apt-get or is aptitide the only way to go w/wtch? |
| 19:49.12 | enouf | aaaadkasjdlas: find has it's own version of ls even |
| 19:49.18 | asg | somnambulant: you can still use apt-get but aptitude is preferred |
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| 19:49.25 | aaaadkasjdlas | hmmm got it... thank you very much =) |
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| 19:49.48 | somnambulant | asg: ok ty |
| 19:50.02 | asg | somnambulant: basically, if you know what you are doing and are confident, use apt-get, otherwise, use aptitude. |
| 19:50.03 | sqrammi | Is there any way to display all meta-packages and user-selected packages in apt/dpkg? |
| 19:50.12 | sqrammi | (similar to /var/lib/portage/world in Gentoo) |
| 19:50.20 | V4Nelle | guys there is any problem with flahplugin of iceweasel?with the latest version on lenny it freeze! |
| 19:50.32 | n3kl | stew: if I do rm $x ;done no quotes, it fails |
| 19:50.33 | enouf | sqrammi: too silly a question |
| 19:50.35 | stoned | iceweasel is fairly buggy atm |
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| 19:50.40 | stew | n3kl: not here |
| 19:50.43 | stew | n3kl: oh, but i'm using zsh |
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| 19:50.45 | enouf | sqrammi: no possible usable info |
| 19:51.00 | n3kl | stew: oh, well... |
| 19:51.01 | stoned | random crashes, random disappearances of the entire process/window, random lockups and zombies |
| 19:51.03 | sqrammi | enouf: there's no way to list all packages that were installed after base installation? |
| 19:51.06 | stoned | its not good |
| 19:51.16 | stoned | !installed |
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| 19:51.16 | dpkg | To list installed packages, COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l |awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}'; man dpkg; man grep; man awk; If you use aptitude, try aptitude search -F '%100p' '~i!~M'; |
| 19:51.18 | enouf | n3kl: what? no $ there! |
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| 19:51.27 | n3kl | stew: why are you using zsh? just curious |
| 19:51.33 | stoned | hm |
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| 19:51.37 | n3kl | enouf: wtf are you talking about? |
| 19:51.41 | enouf | n3kl: oh .. you were shortening, sowwy |
| 19:51.47 | sqrammi | dpkg: no, I want to only display user-installed packages, is there any way to do that? |
| 19:51.48 | dpkg | sqrammi: what are you talking about? |
| 19:51.49 | enouf | DON'T SHORTEN! |
| 19:51.51 | enouf | ;-) |
| 19:51.54 | stew | n3kl: its better |
| 19:51.55 | n3kl | enouf: ya, don' |
| 19:51.58 | n3kl | t bark ar me |
| 19:52.06 | enouf | w00f |
| 19:52.13 | sqrammi | dpkg: for example, a base installation only has ubuntu-minimal, ubuntu-standard, and ubuntu-desktop installed (for ubuntu, just as an example) |
| 19:52.14 | dpkg | You are moron #36, sqrammi |
| 19:52.20 | enouf | haha |
| 19:52.34 | enouf | too many ubuntus in one sentence |
| 19:52.45 | sqrammi | dpkg: I guess you can't do it because gentoo rules debian |
| 19:52.45 | dpkg | sqrammi: I give up, what is it? |
| 19:52.52 | enouf | sqrammi: aptitude can do that |
| 19:52.58 | enouf | how? i don't know |
| 19:53.03 | enouf | i use apt-get |
| 19:53.08 | sqrammi | dpkg: I don't mind using aptitude, etc. |
| 19:53.08 | dpkg | sqrammi: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
| 19:53.20 | enouf | dpkg: is it bigger than a breadbox? |
| 19:53.21 | dpkg | enouf: I give up, what is it? |
| 19:53.33 | enouf | sqrammi: quit it weenie |
| 19:53.39 | sqrammi | enouf: I just want a list of all packages that have been installed after the base install |
| 19:53.45 | n3kl | dpkg -l |
| 19:53.45 | dpkg | no idea, n3kl |
| 19:53.55 | enouf | sqrammi: use debian .. and use aptitude |
| 19:54.05 | n3kl | hah |
| 19:54.24 | enouf | sqrammi: but .. you really do not need to know that |
| 19:54.39 | sqrammi | enouf: for example, if I've installed kate after the base installation, I want to see only kate on the list |
| 19:54.40 | enouf | sqrammi: i'll bet you 50million $ |
| 19:54.48 | enouf | no |
| 19:54.49 | sqrammi | enouf: yes I do |
| 19:54.57 | n3kl | sqrammi: why |
| 19:54.59 | enouf | kate comes wioth baggage |
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| 19:55.10 | enouf | it's called kde water waeight |
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| 19:55.15 | sqrammi | enouf: then I can clean out junk that didn't get installed by ubuntu-minimal, etc. |
| 19:55.23 | enouf | go away |
| 19:55.28 | sqrammi | enouf: I don't care about kate, I'm just using it as an example |
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| 19:55.32 | n3kl | did we start supporting ubuntu? |
| 19:55.49 | n3kl | ubuntu is queer |
| 19:55.52 | sqrammi | no, I'm asking here because this should be the same in debian or ubuntu |
| 19:56.02 | n3kl | are you running debian? |
| 19:56.09 | stew | sqrammi: please go to #ubuntu for help with ubuntu, sorry, we don't support ubuntu |
| 19:56.09 | sqrammi | I'm just using ubuntu because I don't know what the ubuntu-minimal equivalent is in debian |
| 19:56.15 | enouf | kate is carrying water-filled balloons |
| 19:56.27 | enouf | she duct tapes them to her thighs |
| 19:56.30 | sqrammi | I don't know that the ubuntu guys would know the answer to this question |
| 19:56.38 | sqrammi | this is an apt/dpkg question |
| 19:56.39 | stew | sqrammi: then ask a ubuntu mailing list |
| 19:56.44 | n3kl | cause you are dumb |
| 19:56.52 | stew | n3kl: stop that |
| 19:56.57 | enouf | sqrammi: go away |
| 19:56.58 | sqrammi | n3kl: you don't understand what I am asking |
| 19:57.01 | n3kl | namecalling not allowed? |
| 19:57.17 | stew | sqrammi: i don't know of an apt/dpkg channel, so #ubuntu is your best bet |
| 19:57.20 | n3kl | sqrammi: I think that mostly if you are using ubuntu, nobody cares what you are asking |
| 19:57.21 | enouf | !debian based |
| 19:57.22 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it probably falls short of Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. If your distribution has an IRC channel, you can use it instead. Even if your distribution has fewer people in its IRC channel, or doesn't have one, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. |
| 19:57.23 | bhagabhi | sqrammi, Why would we? This is a Debian channel, Why would we know anything about how Apt / aptitude behaves under Ubuntu? |
| 19:57.48 | enouf | !tell sqrammi -about ubuntu |
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| 19:57.51 | stew | ok, ok |
| 19:57.59 | sqrammi | this aspect of apt is not any different from ubuntu |
| 19:58.07 | sqrammi | fine, I'll find the name of the meta-package for debian |
| 19:58.22 | zelrikriando | I am running on ubuntu O_O |
| 19:58.29 | enouf | where's fxiny! |
| 19:58.31 | sqrammi | does anyone understand the concept of /var/lib/portage/world in gentoo? |
| 19:58.33 | enouf | sleeves up! |
| 19:58.44 | stew | sqrammi: please ask #gentoo for gentoo related questions |
| 19:58.45 | n3kl | sqrammi: this is not gentoo either |
| 19:58.53 | sqrammi | if there's no equivalent in debian I would be very surprised |
| 19:58.56 | sladi | sqrammi: a minimal installation of Debian would be the netinstall iso |
| 19:58.59 | n3kl | d e b i a n |
| 19:59.15 | zelrikriando | what are the main differences between debian and ubuntu |
| 19:59.24 | n3kl | one does not crash as often |
| 19:59.25 | asg | zelrikriando: we don't support ubuntu |
| 19:59.30 | enouf | sqrammi: you are obviously not even reading |
| 19:59.34 | sqrammi | I am asking a debian-related question |
| 19:59.37 | Authority | sqrammi: then be surprised |
| 19:59.50 | zelrikriando | asg, that was not my question I guess |
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| 19:59.58 | n3kl | sqrammi: please go install debian, and we will be glad to help |
| 20:00.00 | asg | zelrikriando: that was the answer |
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| 20:00.23 | Authority | sqrammi: there's not really a need for that in debian |
| 20:00.29 | sqrammi | basically, all it takes is one package to get the whole system installed, right? |
| 20:00.30 | n3kl | stew: was that the cooperative response I should be giving? |
| 20:00.33 | zelrikriando | asg, I was asking for a difference between debian and ubuntu...not between #debian and #ubuntu |
| 20:00.36 | sqrammi | something like debian-minimal, right? |
| 20:00.47 | enouf | asg: don't you love it when the answer usurps the question? ;-) |
| 20:00.50 | stew | zelrikriando: ask ##linux |
| 20:00.54 | stew | zelrikriando: ubuntu is off-topic here |
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| 20:01.08 | sqrammi | debian-minimal would be meta-package that would then go and install all of the normal system packages |
| 20:01.17 | zelrikriando | stew, it's debian based though...so I thought you guys could answer |
| 20:01.20 | stew | sqrammi: there is no such package |
| 20:01.23 | stew | zelrikriando: sorry |
| 20:01.42 | sqrammi | I don't want to look at a long list of packages, I just want to know the main meta-package that installs the base system |
| 20:01.48 | stew | sqrammi: ask #ubuntu |
| 20:01.58 | zelrikriando | I guess what I am asking is if I can install debian |
| 20:02.01 | zelrikriando | and not be lost |
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| 20:02.26 | enouf | sqrammi: ask Mark to start a hardware chip manu corp, rather than a useless offshoot of genuine debian |
| 20:02.27 | n3kl | why would you be lost. There is plenty of documentation, and we are here to help |
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| 20:02.49 | asg | zelrikriando: ubuntu is basically some stable bits + lots of unstable bits + patches that aren't in debian. How can we possibly help you there? We can answer questions like 'how do I purge packages that I've removed with apt-get' but not much more. |
| 20:02.53 | enouf | 10million chances |
| 20:04.05 | zelrikriando | hmm ok |
| 20:04.12 | enouf | consumer hardware + foss needs much more $$$ than debian need offshoots with their own release cycle |
| 20:04.23 | stew | enouf: wrong channel |
| 20:04.29 | enouf | righto |
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| 20:05.10 | zelrikriando | and my hardware would work the same I guess |
| 20:05.19 | enouf | your hardware sucks ass |
| 20:05.38 | zelrikriando | that's a hater comment |
| 20:05.38 | asg | zelrikriando: not likely since the kernels in Debian are different to the kernels in Ubuntu. |
| 20:05.48 | hesco | I frequently see this error: sox: Can't open output file '/dev/dsp': Device or resource busy. My question is this, how, short of closing multiple browser windows and tabs, can I free up my /dev/dsp device when I want to play a local sound file or make a phone call after watching an online video? |
| 20:05.48 | zelrikriando | ok |
| 20:06.34 | zelrikriando | enouf, you dont know what my hardware is |
| 20:06.42 | stew | zelrikriando: debian tries to remove most of the non-free bits in the kernel, so if you are using hardware that requires non-free drivers or firmware, you may find that you need to add software from outside debian to get it working |
| 20:06.52 | stew | zelrikriando: just ignore enouf he's not attempting to be helpful |
| 20:07.12 | zelrikriando | stew, ok , I have intel stuff mainly, that should work |
| 20:07.24 | enouf | zelrikriando: installing debian correctly just requires some reading |
| 20:07.27 | zelrikriando | not sure about my wireless though |
| 20:07.30 | stew | zelrikriando: the wireless won't bet everythign else |
| 20:07.31 | enouf | are you up for it? |
| 20:07.41 | n3kl | zelrikriando: is there some reason you think that your hardware may not work? |
| 20:07.55 | stew | he's right that not all of it will |
| 20:08.00 | zelrikriando | n3kl, I am a bit worried as it's a laptop |
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| 20:08.20 | enouf | stew: you're correct, i lumped zelrikriando and sqrammi into the same group .. whoops |
| 20:08.42 | stew | zelrikriando: you won't be able to use the wireless during the install, but it should be easy to get it working post-install by adding the required firmware package from debian's non-free repository |
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| 20:08.56 | n3kl | zelrikriando: what brand? model? Generally speaking, intell stuff works well with linux |
| 20:09.00 | zelrikriando | stew, ok sounds easy enough |
| 20:09.04 | enouf | what about lenny? |
| 20:09.07 | n3kl | zelrikriando: do you currently have linux installed on it? |
| 20:09.08 | zelrikriando | n3kl, ASUS U5F |
| 20:09.11 | stew | zelrikriando: other laptop hardware should be generally ok, definately if you have an intel graphics chip |
| 20:09.15 | Nuno | enouf: can you just tell me where i found this file "rpc_server/srv_spoolss.c" (i saw some diff in web to fix that issue) thanks |
| 20:09.27 | zelrikriando | n3kl, I have ubuntu currently...looking to go a bit further |
| 20:09.38 | enouf | !tell Nuno -about apt-file |
| 20:09.44 | zizzfizzix | guys, i get "E: Unsupported extension: gz" while trying to update sources db from aptitude/apt-get what is it? |
| 20:09.52 | n3kl | zelrikriando: like stew said, some stuff may need extra from third party, but really, its all linux |
| 20:10.17 | zelrikriando | I might give it a try as a dual boot first |
| 20:10.19 | zelrikriando | I will see |
| 20:10.34 | Nuno | enouf: thanks |
| 20:11.41 | enouf | Nuno: well, on Lenny/Sid i386, i can't find any srv_spoolss.c |
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| 20:13.20 | Nuno | enouf: uhmm i'm on "etch" btw |
| 20:13.44 | enouf | Nuno: well, what did apt-file return for you? |
| 20:13.57 | enouf | Nuno: /msg dpkg pdo |
| 20:14.04 | Nuno | tryng now sec |
| 20:14.41 | enouf | rpc_server just doesn't sound lijke a debian file to me |
| 20:15.12 | enouf | (or dir/) |
| 20:15.46 | enouf | Nuno: why not stop trying to be a homogenist? |
| 20:15.49 | Nuno | enouf: it's samba file? |
| 20:16.00 | enouf | i don't know |
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| 20:16.19 | b0nn | hrm, how do I list all the modules available on mysystem? |
| 20:16.24 | Nuno | uhmm that file it's on code |
| 20:16.35 | b0nn | I've just compiled a driver from source |
| 20:16.37 | enouf | modprobe -l | lesss |
| 20:16.43 | stew | ssssss |
| 20:16.44 | enouf | modprobe -l | less |
| 20:17.02 | enouf | though man modprobe |
| 20:17.22 | enouf | it's only worthy of your current running kernel |
| 20:17.54 | b0nn | found it |
| 20:17.55 | b0nn | thanks |
| 20:18.35 | enouf | Nuno: sorry, i'm not good with sambe intracacies and cups |
| 20:18.52 | Nuno | thanks a lot :) |
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| 20:19.24 | enouf | and windows? heh - 1st task == rip out 1/3 of registry == required |
| 20:20.05 | enouf | Nuno: might try ##linux or other channels |
| 20:20.09 | maligor | more, not less! |
| 20:20.25 | Nuno | sure enouf and thanks again |
| 20:20.42 | Blastur | whats the easiest way to logout a user remotely? |
| 20:21.15 | enouf | Nuno: i want to help - i just don;t know - try again later |
| 20:21.22 | asg | Blastur: slay |
| 20:21.29 | enouf | heh |
| 20:21.34 | enouf | swat |
| 20:21.44 | Nuno | :) i know that |
| 20:21.59 | enouf | ahh yes slay == beavis+butthead |
| 20:22.02 | maligor | you could kick their login shell |
| 20:22.06 | maligor | err.. kill |
| 20:22.46 | enouf | "skill" ;-) |
| 20:22.50 | enouf | older |
| 20:23.23 | Blastur | thanks |
| 20:23.24 | Nuno | enouf: i gonna try on xp client and see if i got the same error, so yes it's my bad conf :) |
| 20:24.26 | enouf | Nuno: possible .. yes, but XPoop Homey is very differemt than Pro |
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| 20:25.05 | Nuno | uhmm dammut |
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| 20:25.09 | Nuno | er dammit |
| 20:25.37 | simon1245 | How to install GTK + 10 or what it's called for Debian? |
| 20:25.48 | stew | simon1245: what version of debian are you running? |
| 20:25.49 | simon1245 | GTK +10 |
| 20:25.54 | simon1245 | Netinst |
| 20:25.57 | simon1245 | Netinstall |
| 20:25.59 | Nuno | so the easy way is connect my printer on my pc and not on server :( |
| 20:26.10 | stew | simon1245: etch aka stable? lenny aka testing? |
| 20:26.18 | simon1245 | What? |
| 20:26.26 | stew | simon1245: what version of debian are you running? |
| 20:26.36 | simon1245 | I don't know how to look that' |
| 20:26.43 | simon1245 | I'm new to Linux |
| 20:26.51 | stew | simon1245: what version of libc6 is installed? |
| 20:26.59 | simon1245 | How to look that |
| 20:27.02 | simon1245 | In aptitude? |
| 20:27.07 | stew | simon1245: sure |
| 20:27.07 | maligor | dpkg -l libc6 |
| 20:27.07 | dpkg | No packages found matching libc6 |
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| 20:28.00 | simon1245 | 2.3.6.ds1 |
| 20:28.48 | stew | simon1245: then there is no easy way to install the new gtk |
| 20:28.55 | simon1245 | Why? |
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| 20:29.03 | simon1245 | Is it possible to update it |
| 20:29.05 | stew | simon1245: becuase it hasn't been packaged for stable |
| 20:29.18 | stew | simon1245: it will be in the next release of debian |
| 20:29.24 | simon1245 | Is it possible to update libc6 |
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| 20:29.58 | stew | simon1245: its not your libc6, i was just using the version of that package to judge which release of debian you were on |
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| 20:30.14 | stew | simon1245: updating that pacakge would entail moving to the next release of debian |
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| 20:30.35 | simon1245 | Can i upgrade it or something |
| 20:30.44 | simon1245 | I really need GTK +10 |
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| 20:30.56 | simon1245 | If i don't get it i can't install Firefox :( |
| 20:31.14 | roxy_ | I am looking for a photo managment program that would store all of its data in a single file, any idea ? |
| 20:31.42 | roxy_ | so I can upload to s3 all the pictures + the prog file |
| 20:32.18 | stew | simon1245: "aptitude install iceweasel" will install iceweasel which is firefox with the branding removed |
| 20:32.29 | simon1245 | Ok |
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| 20:32.40 | simon1245 | Thanks :) |
| 20:32.42 | roxy_ | I only need a database kind of stuff, no image manipulation |
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| 20:33.17 | simon1245 | Sorry wait |
| 20:33.31 | simon1245 | E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root? |
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| 20:34.17 | asg | simon1245: are you root? |
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| 20:34.31 | simon1245 | How to become that? |
| 20:34.32 | Nuno | thanks all |
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| 20:34.44 | asg | simon1245: su - (type the root password) |
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| 20:35.02 | simon1245 | Thanks now i am |
| 20:35.42 | enouf | !tell simon1245 -about grounding |
| 20:36.26 | GhostlyDeath | yknow |
| 20:36.41 | enouf | no |
| 20:36.46 | enouf | dumbass |
| 20:36.58 | GhostlyDeath | enouf: My feelings are hurt :'( |
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| 20:38.04 | GhostlyDeath | Here's a bug for everyone: If the wireless kill switch is on when GNOME starts, the network manager has no idea if the wireless has be enabled at all |
| 20:38.16 | b0nn | hrm, I get this: FATAL: SetIFFlags: Unknown interface wlan0: No such device, even though ifconfig -a (and iwconfig) show a wlan0 |
| 20:38.25 | b0nn | what should I look at? |
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| 20:40.18 | rvalles | b0nn: maybe if you told us how you get that. |
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| 20:41.51 | b0nn | oh sorry, starting kismet |
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| 20:43.45 | b0nn | hrm ifconfig wlan0 up gives me: SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such device |
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| 20:44.33 | b0nn | but ifconfig -a gives me : wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:08:A1:A1:1E:E9 |
| 20:44.37 | b0nn | <etc> |
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| 20:45.38 | zleap | hi |
| 20:45.49 | roxy_ | any easy way to backup pictures on s3 ? |
| 20:46.06 | zleap | i am trying to get my webcam working, its listed in lsusb but I am not sure how to proceed with telling an applicaton where the cam is |
| 20:46.17 | zleap | and even less sure what to ask google to look for |
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| 20:52.58 | simon1245 | Which msn messanger do you use? |
| 20:53.14 | asg | bitlbee |
| 20:53.33 | simon1245 | Ok thanks |
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| 20:53.57 | Jemt | Hi guys. I'm expirencing a very strange problem; installing mysql-server on etch works, but mysq-server-5.0 won't start up after install. I'm pretty sure 'mysql-server' points to 'mysql-server-5.0'. Can anyone back this up? Am I mistaken? |
| 20:54.11 | V4Nelle | guys there is any way to disable swfdec-mozilla without remove it? |
| 20:54.40 | zleap | not sure, i usually kill it |
| 20:54.45 | zleap | goto console |
| 20:54.47 | zleap | ps -aux |
| 20:55.05 | abrotman | V4Nelle: do you want to use another flash? |
| 20:55.07 | zleap | see which processeds are linked to swfdec-mozilla and do kill pid |
| 20:55.26 | abrotman | wtf |
| 20:55.34 | V4Nelle | abrotman, i want to use flahplayer-mozzila |
| 20:55.37 | V4Nelle | mozilla* |
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| 20:55.43 | abrotman | so adobe flash ? |
| 20:55.48 | simon1245 | asg how to configure it? |
| 20:55.52 | zleap | that never worked for me |
| 20:55.54 | V4Nelle | yes |
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| 20:56.10 | zleap | there is a working flashplayer on backports i think for the sources.list |
| 20:56.15 | abrotman | V4Nelle: /msg dpkg dmm .. install the flash from there, and it should configure it for you .. alternately, use update-alternatives to configure it to use your flash |
| 20:56.18 | asg | simon1245: install sudo (as root) then run visudo (after reading the manpage, of course) |
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| 20:56.29 | simon1245 | Ok |
| 20:56.34 | V4Nelle | ok...thx |
| 20:56.36 | V4Nelle | :) |
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| 20:57.36 | simon1245 | How to login as root? |
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| 20:57.59 | balasyum | hello |
| 20:58.02 | zleap | hi |
| 20:58.07 | zleap | you can su to root |
| 20:58.20 | zleap | or type root at the login prompt followed by password |
| 20:58.33 | zleap | i thnk su is a better way |
| 20:58.37 | balasyum | Is the gdm-guest-session (the new ubuntu feature) possible/available in Debian? |
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| 20:58.52 | zleap | not sure |
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| 20:59.10 | zleap | i have a guest account on 8.04 |
| 20:59.39 | valdyn | balasyum: its probably a guest account which is possible in debian, with restrictions imposed by using pessulus |
| 20:59.54 | valdyn | balasyum: ..and pessulus is in debian too |
| 21:00.53 | simon1245 | Can someone tell me step by step how to edit Visudo i don't have any idea |
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| 21:01.14 | valdyn | simon1245: you dont edit visudo, you edit /etc/sudoers by running visudo |
| 21:01.26 | simon1245 | Ok |
| 21:01.32 | simon1245 | Can you tell me how to do it |
| 21:01.44 | valdyn | simon1245: are you asking me how to run a program? |
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| 21:01.54 | simon1245 | No how to edit it |
| 21:01.55 | balasyum | I just took a look at the package, for me, it just seems to be a cleanup script and an apparmor invocation. |
| 21:02.04 | simon1245 | I have open it |
| 21:02.09 | valdyn | simon1245: read the manpage |
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| 21:02.18 | balasyum | Could be simply implemented in Debian. |
| 21:02.24 | valdyn | simon1245: or use google |
| 21:02.25 | simon1245 | Ok |
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| 21:02.51 | simon1245 | Thanks :) |
| 21:02.53 | valdyn | balasyum: what would apparmor do there? |
| 21:03.02 | balasyum | And the package simply installed to Debian (dpkg). |
| 21:03.11 | balasyum | Just extract that file, valdyn . |
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| 21:03.36 | balasyum | Or open with File Roller. |
| 21:04.04 | valdyn | balasyum: i have no idea how apparmor would restrict a user |
| 21:04.51 | valdyn | balasyum: oh, some mandatory access control list stuff |
| 21:05.07 | balasyum | Download and open it - see yourself: http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/all/gdm-guest-session/download |
| 21:05.36 | valdyn | balasyum: to bad , but debian has no apparmor support |
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| 21:06.07 | balasyum | Strange, it simply installed to me. |
| 21:06.12 | valdyn | balasyum: well sure |
| 21:06.20 | abrotman | !tell catsup about mentors |
| 21:06.27 | valdyn | balasyum: but the apparmor stuff isnt going to do anything useful without an apparmor enabled kernel |
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| 21:07.43 | balasyum | Dependancy not shown here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/gdm-guest-session |
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| 21:10.20 | Iridos | hooray, lenny here I come |
| 21:10.32 | valdyn | balasyum: which dependency? |
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| 21:10.40 | valdyn | balasyum: it just needs a ubuntu kernel |
| 21:10.47 | Iridos | (note sarcasm) |
| 21:10.48 | abrotman | Iridos: i find your nick offensive |
| 21:11.03 | valdyn | balasyum: debian packages dont have kernel deps either |
| 21:11.20 | Iridos | abrotman: maybe suggest an un-offensive nick... I seem to run into that problem repeatedly |
| 21:11.58 | Authority | how is it offensive? |
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| 21:12.09 | XTZGZoReX | Is there anyway I can make it so a user cannot cd to an upper dir of their home folder? |
| 21:12.17 | Iridos | Authority: it's not descriptive enough |
| 21:12.21 | balasyum | valdyn, maybe apparmor as a dependency? |
| 21:12.21 | valdyn | XTZGZoReX: not really |
| 21:12.32 | valdyn | balasyum: thats a kernel feature |
| 21:12.39 | balasyum | XTZGZoReX, chroot it |
| 21:12.57 | Authority | I guess I missed something |
| 21:12.57 | XTZGZoReX | chroot is for running programs only, isn't it? |
| 21:13.00 | valdyn | balasyum: im sure its possible to do this dep, but neither debian nor ubuntu do this kind of dep explicitely |
| 21:13.23 | Iridos | Authority: yes :) over the last 3 weeks... but nothing really important :) |
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| 21:13.59 | valdyn | XTZGZoReX: a user cannot run the cd program if he has no running shell |
| 21:14.07 | abrotman | Iridos: could you make it something about your Throat? :) |
| 21:14.16 | Iridos | hmmm... :) |
| 21:14.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | not impossible |
| 21:14.35 | valdyn | XTZGZoReX: which makes chroot a possible solution, with some work, since not being able to cd implies that he cannot run any program |
| 21:14.39 | XTZGZoReX | valdyn: why would he have no running shell? |
| 21:14.45 | valdyn | XTZGZoReX: that is placed outside his $HOME |
| 21:15.07 | valdyn | XTZGZoReX: you made the point that chroot was only for running programs |
| 21:15.33 | valdyn | XTZGZoReX: and i made the point that a user cant log in without a running program |
| 21:16.18 | balasyum | Thank you for all, bye. |
| 21:16.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | so in the end, my mucked-up nvidia-blob from yesterday seems to finally have crashed the X-server... so I decided to go to lenny, as that'll be released any day now... |
| 21:16.24 | XTZGZoReX | valdyn: so basically, chroot their shell? |
| 21:16.37 | valdyn | XTZGZoReX: yea |
| 21:16.48 | XTZGZoReX | valdyn: How would I go about doing this? |
| 21:16.58 | valdyn | XTZGZoReX: but i doubt what you are asking for is at all a sensible solution to your actual problem |
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| 21:17.09 | valdyn | XTZGZoReX: you read the manpage |
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| 21:18.26 | XTZGZoReX | valdyn: That gives pretty much nothing |
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| 21:18.49 | maestro444 | exit |
| 21:19.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | my, only during upgrade one sees how many useless packages one has installed |
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| 21:19.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | like openssl-noentropywhatsoever-1.3.3 |
| 21:20.20 | enouf | GhostlyDeath: don't worry, i call everyone dumbass once in a while .. besides, i'm just really tired .. |
| 21:20.47 | enouf | GhostlyDeath: and no, i have no idea wtf gnomes' network-mangler does |
| 21:21.53 | enouf | goes to steal some candy from his own plastic halloween pumpkin he's put out for the neighborhood kids |
| 21:22.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | gksu, now why would I have gksu installed |
| 21:22.21 | enouf | because gksudo sux? |
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| 21:22.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | "su" always was good enough for me |
| 21:23.08 | abrotman | CutMeOwnThroat: aptitude why gksu ? |
| 21:23.11 | abrotman | erm .. whatever it is |
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| 21:24.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | actually could be useful to have a graphical representation of all installed packages/dependencies |
| 21:25.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | then you could pick out the ones you know you want+base-system (e.g. by clicking on them) and then wonder about all the remaining packages that don't depend on them |
| 21:25.54 | abrotman | CutMeOwnThroat: i think apt-cache has a dotty output |
| 21:26.32 | abrotman | hrm .. not what you were asking for |
| 21:26.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | there is also pkg-order |
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| 21:29.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | perhaps wouldn't be hard to make, though ... with all the graphics libraries around |
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| 21:33.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | argh, I have "wormux" installed |
| 21:33.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | dececisvely closes his eyes |
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| 21:33.22 | pickcoder | so much for a custom patched 2.6.26 kernel working with the new IQExpress boards |
| 21:33.40 | pickcoder | hopefully 2.6.28-rc1 won't blow up on me |
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| 21:35.23 | rokra | Hello |
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| 21:35.32 | kerneloops | Hello |
| 21:35.42 | kerneloops | (moto) :) |
| 21:35.43 | rokra | PLease I need help concerning this error message :( Starting IKE (ISAKMP/Oakley) server: racoon*** glibc detected *** malloc(): memory corruption: 0x080be1b8 *** ? |
| 21:35.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | uh, how nice - I update and suddenly lilo instead of grub is used |
| 21:35.59 | kerneloops | Uhm |
| 21:36.09 | kerneloops | rokra, doesn't seem ok :S |
| 21:36.16 | sluggy | hi all |
| 21:36.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | forsees breakage |
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| 21:37.10 | rokra | kerneloops: sure? |
| 21:37.14 | meandrain | hi |
| 21:38.06 | pickcoder | rokra: which version of Debian |
| 21:38.12 | rokra | pickcoder: etch |
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| 21:40.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | one bad thing about updating many packages is, that you're asked for interaction at random times... so you have to sit through it... would be more pleasent if you could answer everything in one go |
| 21:40.13 | tmm1 | how do i add an apt repo that's not used by default.. i want to add testing so i have to explicitly do apt-get -t testing |
| 21:40.45 | stew | tmm1: you should not mix stable and testing, use backports instead: /msg dpkg backports |
| 21:40.55 | tmm1 | backports doesn't have the package i want |
| 21:41.06 | stew | tmm1: which package do you want? |
| 21:41.06 | tmm1 | i need to apt-get -t testing source libarchive |
| 21:41.08 | \amethyst | !pinning |
| 21:41.09 | dpkg | Pinning is a method to choose packages when multiple repositories are enabled in sources.list. man apt_preferences, http://wiki.debian.org/AptPinning Bugs are explained at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/debian.html If you use stable, pinning won't help you from messing up the system... use <backports> instead. |
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| 21:41.47 | tmm1 | i basically want to build my own libarchive backport |
| 21:41.51 | deadcat | i am still trying to mount a remove /home (with diff users (same uid)) on local machine so that i can edit dir/files own by me.... but seems like nfsv4 has some new features thats not letting me |
| 21:41.51 | tmm1 | using the testing source package |
| 21:41.53 | \amethyst | !simple sid backport |
| 21:41.54 | dpkg | First: See if the package has already been backported. Ask me about <backports>. If it hasn't, 1) Add a "deb-src ..." line ONLY for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get install build-essential; apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. If you are just wanting to change the compilation options, ask me about <package recompile>, or see <uupdate> if sid is too old |
| 21:41.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | tmm1: copy the deb-src line from stable and replace stable (or etch) with testing (or lenny) |
| 21:42.09 | \amethyst | does pinning work with source archives too? |
| 21:42.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | (or sid) |
| 21:42.12 | tmm1 | hmm right, makes sense |
| 21:44.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | deb-src... ONLY for sid?? |
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| 21:46.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | shouldn't you at least have testing and sid, so you can get source packages from both? |
| 21:48.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | opens his eyes - argh, texlive-lang-mongolian |
| 21:48.39 | \amethyst | CutMeOwnThroat: (deb-src ONLY) for sid |
| 21:48.46 | \amethyst | CutMeOwnThroat: not deb-src (ONLY for sid) |
| 21:48.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | ah |
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| 21:49.23 | \amethyst | dpkg, simple sid backport =~ s/a "deb-src ..." line ONLY/ONLY a "deb-src ..." line/ |
| 21:49.24 | dpkg | \amethyst: OK |
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| 21:49.32 | Wladimir | Hi. |
| 21:49.41 | Wladimir | anyone familiar with bitspirit. ? |
| 21:49.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | better :) |
| 21:49.56 | Wladimir | its a torrent client. for winbox. |
| 21:50.09 | pickcoder | rokra: you should probably trace the startup using gdb or strace |
| 21:50.30 | Wladimir | but uhm. the problem is easy i guess. when i am using it i am unable to connect to the webs |
| 21:50.34 | Wladimir | ;=/ |
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| 21:51.09 | rokra | pickcoder: looking for |
| 21:51.18 | rokra | pickcoder: problem seems to come from the racoon.conf |
| 21:51.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | now you only have to tell us what winbox is... and why you'd think anyone here should know anything about it, as there is no debian package for it |
| 21:51.29 | rokra | pickcoder: I m searching thanks |
| 21:51.35 | pickcoder | rokra: is Etch up to date? |
| 21:51.42 | rokra | pickcoder: yeap |
| 21:51.54 | Wladimir | anyone ? |
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| 21:53.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | .oO(latex-cjk-chinese) |
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| 21:54.41 | rokra | pickcoder: ok problem was due to my racoon.conf file , removing some line , and now it s starting but VPN nbor working :D |
| 21:54.57 | pickcoder | sounds like a naughty config parser |
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| 21:55.16 | pickcoder | s/naughty/ignorant |
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| 21:56.35 | hikenboot | hello with iceweasel how do i make it the default browser after an install of konqueror |
| 21:56.39 | pickcoder | I don't think I've seen a stable app blow up on malloc due to a bad config line |
| 21:56.59 | rokra | pickcoder: maybe due to an option looking for malloc |
| 21:57.10 | pickcoder | hm |
| 21:57.37 | rokra | pickcoder: in other way this is the first time playing with VPN so I dont know : |
| 21:57.52 | pickcoder | I normally use OpenVPN |
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| 21:58.56 | rokra | pickcoder: yeap I used openvpn from linux-> linux but I m looking from NS5-> Linux |
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| 22:00.06 | pickcoder | I think our ISP uses, or used to use, cipe between the endpoints |
| 22:00.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, I'm also sure dpkg is telling me I modified some config files that I never touched |
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| 22:00.51 | rokra | pickcoder: don t know |
| 22:01.56 | hikenboot | how do i manually install the vmware console plugin |
| 22:02.12 | hikenboot | oops wrong channel |
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| 22:04.35 | hellues | hey |
| 22:04.49 | hellues | anyone has a trouble with totem media player |
| 22:05.13 | hellues | when i push the exit full screen mode button |
| 22:05.29 | hellues | my xserver is restarted because of this program |
| 22:05.45 | hellues | dıes someone know tihs mistake |
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| 22:07.58 | danielbvho | hi |
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| 22:12.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | now that's really interesting - when I start gdm, I get a login-screen, but can't type or move the mouse - and when I press ctrl-C on that gui, it exits |
| 22:13.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | looks as if X doesn't recognize the kbd and acts exactly as if just "sits on top" of a text-console... |
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| 22:14.50 | lc0035234 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:15.05 | libereco | lc0035234, cron |
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| 22:15.10 | libereco | at |
| 22:15.17 | libereco | read the manuals |
| 22:15.22 | xand | man crontab |
| 22:15.39 | lc0035234 | ok, I know how to use cron. is there another way |
| 22:16.05 | libereco | lc0035234, at |
| 22:16.07 | lc0035234 | cron is cool though :), but just to know if there is another way |
| 22:16.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | sure, have and endless loop with sleep 600 |
| 22:16.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | or do watch -n 600 script |
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| 22:16.57 | jogla | Hello |
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| 22:17.21 | jogla | I just installed Debian; its nice so far. |
| 22:17.30 | oOarthurOo | welcome jogla |
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| 22:18.24 | pickcoder | installs the .28 kernel and cross fingers |
| 22:18.31 | jogla | I tried to get my luks device working and added an entry in /etc/crypttab, i can see that there an orange warning at boot time about that entry, but it scrolls up to fast to read it |
| 22:18.39 | jogla | Where can i access that information? |
| 22:18.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | pickcoder: sing a rolling-stones song backwards... |
| 22:18.46 | oOarthurOo | /var/log |
| 22:18.58 | jogla | oOarthurOo: I though so too, i can't find it there |
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| 22:19.05 | jogla | /though/thought/ |
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| 22:19.48 | IceWeasel | Hi guys. I'm really sick of the mozilla team. I say we organise a full-frontal invasion. Who's with me? |
| 22:19.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | haha, turns out xserver-xorg-input-kbd and mouse were not installed... fun |
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| 22:20.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | IceWeasel: ask IceApe |
| 22:20.26 | IceWeasel | CutMeOwnThroat: ok :P |
| 22:20.27 | jogla | IceWeasel: i have no time, sorry, but i will support you with middle range weapons |
| 22:20.29 | lc0035234 | how to connect to internet in debian, I have wireless router ? |
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| 22:21.57 | oOarthurOo | jogla: I just checked in /var/log and my boot messages are stored in dmesg.o |
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| 22:22.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | !wireless |
| 22:22.07 | dpkg | Support for your wireless LAN device is dependent on the chipset within. Don't know what you have? Ask me about <what's my wireless>. Atheros: <madwifi>; Atmel: <at76_usb>; Broadcom: <bcm43xx>, <b43>; Intel: <ipw2100>, <ipw2200>, <ipw3945>, <iwlagn>; Ralink: <rt2x00>; Realtek: <rtl-wifi>; TI: <acx100>; ZyDAS: <zd1211rw>. See also: <wlan howto>, <wpa>, <killswitch>, <wmaster0>. http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi |
| 22:22.11 | oOarthurOo | try cat dmesg.0 |
| 22:22.12 | pickcoder | no luck |
| 22:22.23 | oOarthurOo | or nano... or however you want to read it. |
| 22:22.28 | hannes_s | hello, I've got some trouble with mdadm. I've got three harddisks, /dev/sd[bcd]. On each of these, there is one partition /dev/sd[bcd]1. I've got a working RAID5 on these partitions; that is: it only works when I configure mdadm statically. If I don't, mdadm somehow messes with udev (?), so that/dev/sd[bcd]1 vanish from /dev after rebooting. If I uninstall mdadm or configure it statically, the partitions appear at /dev. |
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| 22:22.50 | hannes_s | any ideas? |
| 22:22.50 | oOarthurOo | do I need something installed so that special icons in my icon theme, like folder-download folder-pictures, get associated with my download and picture folder in my home directory? |
| 22:23.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | lc0035234: ^^ - and /msg dpkg <sometopic> about the things he's written in <>-type brackets |
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| 22:23.45 | TUX | hello |
| 22:23.45 | jogla | oOarthurOo: There are my *kernel* boot messages |
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| 22:24.15 | jogla | but that luks message was not from the kernel |
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| 22:24.33 | jogla | in fact grep -ir luks /var/log did not get me the answer |
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| 22:24.41 | jogla | TUX: Hello |
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| 22:26.07 | oOarthurOo | jogla: Well, I don't even know how you saw an exclamation point. I'm just a newish Debian user myself trying to help you out. It seems you know more about grep than I do, and so you've probably looked through /var/log extensively for the error you are seeing, is that correct? You've ruled out /var/log as a source of seeing the error? |
| 22:26.21 | TUX | which options should i take for nfs (server/client) for a fast connection |
| 22:26.39 | jogla | oOarthurOo: Yes |
| 22:26.59 | jogla | oOarthurOo: It does not contain the message i get at boot time in clear text at least |
| 22:27.44 | jogla | But thank you anyway :) |
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| 22:28.26 | oOarthurOo | I'm just looking at the man pages, but I don't see any comments about where cryptsetyp or luks keeps a log |
| 22:28.39 | oOarthurOo | I'm thought it hooked into the kernel |
| 22:28.48 | oOarthurOo | have you scanned through it without grepping it? |
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| 22:29.48 | Grim76___ | 50 |
| 22:29.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh, nice - now my mousepointer is invisible |
| 22:30.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | @$#$&^$#%^#$ |
| 22:30.58 | pickcoder | CutMeOwnThroat: at least your kernel will boot... |
| 22:31.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | pickcoder: well, no - not the 2.6.26... or - well, it will, but it won't find the raid |
| 22:31.37 | pickcoder | eh? |
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| 22:31.58 | eptalon | heyas |
| 22:32.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | this is the 2.6.18 one and it's initrd which I'd used before |
| 22:32.31 | jogla | oOarthurOo: I grepped it |
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| 22:32.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | but I hoped to get X back so I can google on how to fix it :-/ |
| 22:32.48 | pickcoder | md raid? |
| 22:32.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | yes |
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| 22:33.14 | pickcoder | did you install the image from bpo? |
| 22:33.14 | jogla | ggrep -ir 'luks' /var/log | more |
| 22:33.17 | jogla | -g |
| 22:33.17 | eptalon | Very basic question, how can I get a virtual box img accessible from outside (i.e. setup bridging) in lenny? |
| 22:33.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | and I guess I just have to look up how I did that in the howto I used back then... |
| 22:33.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | but reading in links isn't so much fun |
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| 22:35.20 | oOarthurOo | Well, all I know is that if you see it during boot, AND you have the proper loggin utils installed (sysklog?, klog? ... I 'm not sure if those are the right pakage names) then after boot you should be able to scroll back through it and see the message. |
| 22:35.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | haha, indeed, invisible mouse pointer... I remember having that before a long time ago |
| 22:35.48 | oOarthurOo | Sorry I can't help more. |
| 22:36.42 | pickcoder | jogla: dmesg | less |
| 22:37.10 | pickcoder | or grep <word> if you're looking for a specific line |
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| 22:37.17 | oOarthurOo | or at all |
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| 22:37.35 | eptalon | less /var/log/syslog |
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| 22:38.05 | eptalon | tail -100 /var/log/syslog (for the last 100 lines) |
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| 22:41.22 | Multiply | Sometimes my systems hangs for like 10 seconds, and nothing is working. Then suddenly after aprox 10 seconds, it continues, where it came from. What can be causing this? |
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| 22:43.38 | pickcoder | Multiply: it could be anything. what's your normal system load, free memory, iowait, etc |
| 22:45.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | Multiply: things like this used to be no-udma on disks + sudden high disk activity check with hdparm -i /dev/[hs]d[ab] (also try -I) - but shouldn't happen with current debian/modern disks |
| 22:46.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | Multiply: also, keep "top" running in a window - perhaps you'll see some possible culprits before/after the freeze |
| 22:46.15 | Multiply | See, that's the problem. |
| 22:46.24 | Multiply | I had htop running, and nothing is using more than normal. |
| 22:46.36 | busfahrer | I guess this gets asked fairly often in here, but is there a *rough* estimate on when Lenny's going to be released? |
| 22:46.39 | Multiply | The usage was a bit high, but it's normal when the clock is around 20.00 |
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| 22:47.07 | Multiply | The problem is that I see the htop thru ssh, and it doesn't update when it hangs |
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| 22:47.15 | Multiply | Also.. can it be "sleep 10" causing it? |
| 22:47.26 | Multiply | I think I saw it in the htop once, when I really looked after. |
| 22:47.51 | pickcoder | sleep() is for the current process |
| 22:48.01 | pickcoder | it should not cause the entire system to stop |
| 22:48.19 | Multiply | That's what I thought. |
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| 22:48.33 | Multiply | But could it? I can't seem to find other reasons |
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| 22:48.40 | pickcoder | mysql running? |
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| 22:49.33 | Multiply | Uhm. |
| 22:49.47 | Multiply | I didn't install it, since I have got mysql running at another machine |
| 22:50.27 | pickcoder | if it's random then it will be tough to iron out |
| 22:51.27 | pickcoder | what do your buffers and swap look like |
| 22:51.27 | hannes_s | I just noticed, that /proc/mdstat lists a raid array: md0 : inactive sdc[2](S) sdb[1](S) sdd[0](S). what the...?! |
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| 22:51.28 | pickcoder | and what does iostat say about your I/O status |
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| 22:52.30 | Multiply | pickcoder, I haven't got iostat. |
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| 22:52.43 | pickcoder | install sysstat |
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| 22:55.16 | pickcoder | sar is also helpful, buf you have to enable the daemon under /etc/detaul/sysstat |
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| 22:55.49 | dcestari | hello all |
| 22:55.53 | pickcoder | s/detaul/default |
| 22:56.05 | dcestari | I'm having problems with the php version on etch |
| 22:56.20 | dcestari | it gives me weird errors if I use it with FastCGI |
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| 22:56.47 | dcestari | anyone could tell me how to downgrade or upgrade php on etch? there are no backports |
| 22:56.53 | ice799 | Hi - I just created a deb package for an application that didn't have one before. It seems to work but when I run dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot, no .diff.gz is generated. |
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| 22:57.02 | pickcoder | I didn't think FastCGI could be used with PHP |
| 22:57.13 | ice799 | I really want to generate the diff.gz, any ideas why it isnt being generated ? |
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| 22:58.32 | Multiply_ | Sorry about that, pickcoder. Lost the internet |
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| 22:59.06 | dcestari | sure you can, with php5-cgi |
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| 22:59.58 | pickcoder | ice799: I think that's dpkg-source that creates that |
| 23:00.14 | oOarthurOo | So... I've got folders in my home folder called documents, picture and downloads... etc. On windows these are "special folders" and get "special icons" and in my current them there are icons associated with these kinds of folders. For various sizes, like 48x48 72x72 etc. But they don't assocaite. I have to manually change them. And if I do that, then when I zoom in or out it looks ridiculous |
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| 23:00.31 | pickcoder | !nm |
| 23:00.32 | dpkg | i heard nm is New Maintainer, the process through which new Debian developers happen; see http://nm.debian.org/ . A program to list symbols from object files and libs. Never\No Mind. New Mexico No Molestes (do not disturb) in spanish. See also <maint-guide>. |
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| 23:00.57 | pickcoder | meh |
| 23:01.02 | pickcoder | ice799: http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ch-build.en.html |
| 23:02.28 | el_alexluna | Hi all! |
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| 23:02.46 | el_alexluna | i would like to change the name of my debian box, how can i do it? |
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| 23:04.05 | pluckhead | hi, i want my debian to boot in tty1 instead of gnome on tty7. how do i do that? what file should i change? |
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| 23:05.58 | sladi | pluckhead: look in /etc rc dir. there should be s15gdm for example. rename it to backup_s15gdm IIRC |
| 23:06.21 | pluckhead | there a few rc dirs |
| 23:06.32 | pluckhead | rc0.d rc1.d rc* etc |
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| 23:06.54 | sladi | there is a config program too. oe of them is different IIRC. I can't look now |
| 23:07.58 | sladi | pluckhead: in there are links to programs which get started. the numbers determine the order. s99 is last for example |
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| 23:09.47 | sladi | maybe rc5 is the one you want. this varies and I'm not sure which runlevel debian uses when it boots normally. rc5 means runlevel5. runlevel 6 is reboot IIRC. K15gdm means gdm is stopped in that runlevel for example |
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| 23:10.06 | hannes_s | so, I figured out that none of the mdadm-udev-rules affects the creation of device nodes during boot. But I noticed, that after apt-get installing mdadm, a new initrd.img is generated. May that have something to do with several missing device nodes? |
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| 23:13.36 | kingsley | What's keeping version 3.0 of Open Office out of unstable? |
| 23:14.16 | sladi | kingsley: unstable won't get new versions until lenny is released |
| 23:14.39 | oOarthurOo | kingsley: I dunno. But I'm running it happily on lenny installed from the .tar.gz debs from openoffice directly. It's installed into /opt so when it finally hits lenny backports I can delete it and install it properly |
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| 23:19.13 | foo | How can I mute my audio via CLI ? I am using alsamixer. |
| 23:20.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | CLI? |
| 23:20.16 | pluckhead | sladi i renamed the file '/etc/init.d/gdm' and it worked. just hope it's not wrong doing so |
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| 23:22.29 | sladi | pluckhead: I doubt there will be problems unless you want to do something at boottime, which needs gdm ^^ |
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| 23:22.56 | jelly-home | foo: press "m" on selected output (say, "Master" or "PCM") |
| 23:23.10 | pluckhead | hmm. ok. thanks very much :-) |
| 23:23.24 | sladi | pluckhead: NP :) |
| 23:23.35 | oOarthurOo | if you are trying to automate it in a script, pluckhead, look at amixer |
| 23:24.06 | pluckhead | i'm sorry? |
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| 23:36.04 | enouf | \amethyst++ (on the !ssb edit) |
| 23:36.28 | enouf | awe crap ... forgot the ! |
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| 23:37.47 | hannes_s | yeaaah, I figured out my mdadm-problem all on my own, sorry for spamming the channel. there were raid-superblocks on the devices itself, possibly from an older raid configuration. mdadm --zero-superblock for all devices did the trick, now everything is detected correctly. |
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| 23:45.38 | torrrr | anyone knows how to start gnome panel in rootless mode? |
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| 23:46.54 | BitUnique | still no java plugin for amd64 etch? |
| 23:47.51 | themill | BitUnique: sun has still not released one. "/msg dpkg java amd64". Also remember that etch is stable so is not going to change. |
| 23:48.11 | keith_ | what's that factoid that tells me how to figure out which package owns a file? |
| 23:48.15 | abrotman | and there's no icedtea at bpo |
| 23:48.19 | abrotman | !tell keith_ about search |
| 23:48.22 | abrotman | !tell keith_ about apt-file |
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| 23:48.57 | keith_ | yah! dpkg -S /bin/foo |
| 23:49.01 | keith_ | hugs dpkg |
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| 23:53.23 | dennis_p | KDM4.1.2 on CTRL-ALT F8 in schroot was rather rude to me today, didn't want any input. zero mouse feedback zero keyboard, all I could do was stare at it and go back to KDE 3.5.9 on F7. |
| 23:53.54 | dennis_p | well at least i learned about chroot |
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| 23:54.14 | karsten | dennis_p: Just remember: chroot is the chroot of all chevil. |
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| 23:54.24 | dennis_p | ha |
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| 23:56.20 | dennis_p | and i now know the kde4 login looks better then kde3 one, but that's all :-) |
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| 23:59.12 | themill | It is a bit like boot times though... who cares? I don't think I've seen the kdm login screen for more than 2min in the last 4 years. |
