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| 00:00.37 | bob_ | how do I configure gdm to load fluxbox or a desktop environment? |
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| 00:04.09 | rysiek|pl | guys, I cannot seam to get this one: how do I search for all the files that *begin* with the NULL byte |
| 00:04.24 | rysiek|pl | or, which contain only nulls (although the first would be enough) |
| 00:05.08 | rysiek|pl | I thought about using hexdump file | grep <something>, but that is *not* an elegant solution ;) |
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| 00:16.01 | hatter | can i pipe tail -f with a grep ? I want to tail -f a maillog but only for a specific user |
| 00:16.23 | themill | hatter: yeah, that will work |
| 00:17.20 | rysiek|pl | hatter: I'd say grep would have to be earlier in the pipe than tail |
| 00:17.38 | rysiek|pl | hatter: grep user /some/file | tail -f |
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| 00:20.29 | themill | rysiek|pl: no, that won't work at all... the grep will hit the end of file and stop, while tail -f will do nothing useful at the end of the pipe |
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| 00:21.59 | rysiek|pl | themill: hmmm, you're right |
| 00:22.03 | rysiek|pl | blushes |
| 00:22.20 | themill | heh |
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| 00:22.39 | themill | At least it wasn't a "useless use of cat" award! |
| 00:22.56 | rysiek|pl | yeah, I grew out of these |
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| 00:23.23 | hatter | themill, rysiek|pl, thx |
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| 00:27.24 | hatter | yep, tail -f syslog | grep "name" , works great :) |
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| 00:39.18 | nadio | How do I force a reboot on a debian system? |
| 00:39.22 | nadio | when the reboot binary fails |
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| 00:41.08 | Gigantic | Hello... I am having some trafic and can't identify what it is using the net =\ What scare me is that ntop show it is Kazaa o.O |
| 00:41.57 | Gigantic | I run mlnet but it is currently no runing, netstat -vep | less doesn't show any applications and nothing I can associate under ps ;A :( |
| 00:42.00 | Gigantic | wth |
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| 00:42.29 | Gigantic | any ideas on how to check wtf is going on? |
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| 00:45.11 | inigo | nadio, using /proc |
| 00:45.19 | inigo | and the magic_sysrq |
| 00:45.23 | inigo | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_sysrq#Command_line_access_and_configuration |
| 00:45.52 | inigo | echo 1 > /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq |
| 00:45.52 | enouf | amphi: pong paddle |
| 00:45.56 | inigo | echo b > /proc/sysrq-trigger |
| 00:46.07 | inigo | that will do a very hugly reboot :) |
| 00:46.24 | inigo | whitouth umount filesystems, kill procs, etc |
| 00:46.52 | inigo | and without sync unwritted buffers !! |
| 00:47.32 | inigo | nadio, read the full wikipedia article to know what magiq_sysrq is and do |
| 00:48.08 | Gigantic | This is the netstat output: http://nopaste.com/p/av1nh3L0x |
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| 00:48.56 | Gigantic | ]\ |
| 00:49.58 | inigo | Gigantic, ntop shows "incoming" or "outgoing" packets to your IP ? |
| 00:50.14 | Gigantic | incoming |
| 00:50.21 | nadio | inigo: thanks |
| 00:50.44 | inigo | Gigantic, so may be they a re "clients" of mlnet trying to reconect to you |
| 00:50.49 | inigo | np nadio |
| 00:51.12 | Gigantic | even though mlnet is down? o.O |
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| 00:51.34 | inigo | Gigantic, you are not respondng or sending any packet, don't ? |
| 00:51.41 | Gigantic | uhm an ip renew should fix that I guess |
| 00:51.47 | inigo | yep |
| 00:51.59 | Gigantic | nope, outgoing trafic looks all k |
| 00:52.07 | Gigantic | ok lemme try that... brb |
| 00:52.19 | nadio | inigo: No susch devices in /proc :( |
| 00:54.09 | inigo | what arch do you have ? |
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| 00:54.19 | inigo | ls /sys |
| 00:54.34 | inigo | is /sys populated ? |
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| 00:55.04 | inigo | cat /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq should return "1" in debian etch |
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| 00:55.50 | inigo | nadio, why you don't have the "reboot command" ? your mounts correspond to your /etc/fstab ? |
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| 00:56.15 | arisv | one question: in order to ignore some dependencies, the command is: dpkg --ignore-depends -i *.deb, apt-get install *.deb --no-deps, or sth like that? |
| 00:56.18 | arisv | I can't syntax it |
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| 00:56.28 | dmoerner | --force-depends |
| 00:56.38 | nadio | inigo: Yes, but I have some problems, and I cant access /etc/fstab right now for some reason, "error no right to read or write" |
| 00:56.38 | dmoerner | but, obviously, that is not something you use lightly |
| 00:56.46 | nadio | inigo: And yes I am root |
| 00:56.59 | arisv | dmoerner: apt-get install *.deb --force-depends will ignore depends? |
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| 00:57.31 | inigo | nadio, that sounds bad... have you check the logs (syslog, etc) and dmesg for a disk failure or something ? |
| 00:57.39 | dmoerner | arisv, no dpkg -i --force-depends file.deb. apt-get does not install from local debs in an arbitrary directory |
| 00:57.52 | arisv | ok |
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| 00:58.01 | inigo | nadio, you can't reboot, you can't read /etc/fstab as root... that sounds really bad :-S |
| 00:58.10 | arisv | dmoerner: in case, I paste the files into /var/cache/apt/archives then I can use apt-get I think, or no? |
| 00:58.20 | jahv | hi. i need help anyone. id like to set the hal so it always mounts my drives at the same location under /media. the damn paths are changing all the time |
| 00:58.31 | inigo | dmoerner, after pste is recomendable to apt-get update |
| 00:58.44 | inigo | sorry, that was for arisv |
| 00:59.41 | dmoerner | arisv, apt-get does not take dpkg options out of the box. just use dpkg to install the local .deb. |
| 01:00.05 | dmoerner | -o DPkg::Options::="--force-depends" is what you would have to call apt-get with |
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| 01:00.44 | nadio | inigo: mm yes, this is gona screw up my scheduele badly. |
| 01:00.49 | Gigantic_ | inigo: All rite fixe :) |
| 01:00.54 | Gigantic_ | *fixed |
| 01:01.01 | [agatha] | evening... my microphone doesnt work,.. either the one integrated in the lappy either one i have plugged... i have checked in alsa and it is not silenced... im using debian lenny any ideas? |
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| 01:02.47 | inigo | nadio, put the output of "mount" in: http://paste.debian.net/ and then return us the result url after push "send" |
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| 01:03.11 | inigo | Gigantic, cool, i think i is normal when using p2p and something like |
| 01:03.30 | inigo | clients that have your IP in the spools, try to reconect |
| 01:03.51 | nadio | inigo: http://rafb.net/p/FkUIsC75.html |
| 01:04.01 | nadio | inigo: /proc/mounts |
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| 01:04.51 | inigo | nadio, you have some filesystems in "read-only" |
| 01:05.10 | nadio | inigo: Yes I noticed thanks, but how to change it to rw ? |
| 01:05.27 | inigo | try mount -o remount,rw /path/to |
| 01:05.31 | Xitium | Hello, I am following a howto guide for "The Perfect Setup Debian Etch" and I had a question about static ip addresses. If I have my router set a static dhcp address to a mac address should I edit me /etc/network/interfaces file to change it to static? |
| 01:05.35 | nadio | inigo: It should be rw, and I have no idea how they ended up being ro. |
| 01:05.47 | MacGyverNL | Xitium: No. |
| 01:05.59 | Xitium | Thanks |
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| 01:06.09 | inigo | nadio, may be a hard disk failure, check dmesg output, syslog, etc |
| 01:06.13 | MacGyverNL | If your router dishes out a fixed DHCP address to that MAC, you still need to do a DHCP request to get it. |
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| 01:06.39 | inigo | nadio, and you can try: mount -o remount,rw / |
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| 01:07.17 | nadio | inigo: bash: /bin/mount: Input/output error |
| 01:07.26 | inigo | nadio, -o -v will be more verbose |
| 01:07.28 | inigo | outch |
| 01:07.29 | nadio | inigo: Kind of paradox of fail.. |
| 01:07.56 | inigo | i think your device storage is really fucked |
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| 01:09.08 | nadio | inigo: Should not be, more of a system failure. |
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| 01:09.56 | inigo | nadio: do you have a backup?, and... can you told someone to hard reboot the machine? |
| 01:10.28 | nadio | inigo: Not until for a 24h. |
| 01:12.01 | inigo | nadio, when this situation starts ? |
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| 01:12.15 | inigo | have you done a dist-upgrade to lenny or something like ? |
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| 01:13.35 | inigo | nadio, and anyway... do you have a "rootfs" in your /etc/fstab ? i don't have rootfs nor fstab neither my mounts |
| 01:14.00 | nadio | inigo: The strange thing is, I dont have an /etc/fstab file right now. |
| 01:14.23 | inigo | :-o |
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| 01:14.30 | [agatha] | evening... my microphone doesnt work,.. either the one integrated in the lappy either one i have plugged... i have checked in alsa and it is not silenced... im using debian lenny any ideas? |
| 01:14.59 | inigo | nadio, your rootfs device is /dev/root ? very strange |
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| 01:15.20 | inigo | [agatha], which chipset is ? |
| 01:15.48 | [agatha] | moment i am not sure but i think realtek |
| 01:15.52 | [agatha] | sec i will check |
| 01:16.32 | nadio | inigo: no /dev/root ether, |
| 01:16.43 | [agatha] | i will paste it inigo sec |
| 01:16.46 | nadio | inigo: I think I know what the problem is, but I need to force an reboot somehow. |
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| 01:17.22 | inigo | the only way i know to reboot whitout standar comand, is using /proc and the magic_sysrq bits |
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| 01:17.46 | inigo | i'm sorry, you said that you can not access that /proc files, don't you ? |
| 01:18.08 | inigo | (to reboot remotely) |
| 01:18.10 | [agatha] | looks like intel i think inigo http://paste.debian.net/20850/ |
| 01:18.38 | inigo | [agatha], ICH7 is well supported i think |
| 01:18.50 | inigo | what release of debian do you have ? |
| 01:18.57 | [agatha] | lenny inigo |
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| 01:19.10 | inigo | with etch i need to recompile the last alsa for my imac |
| 01:19.20 | [agatha] | i seem to have upgraded accidentally... |
| 01:19.27 | inigo | [agatha], does it have any "hardware" colume control ? |
| 01:19.35 | [agatha] | dont say me that i have no idea how to compile :( |
| 01:19.36 | inigo | volume control ? |
| 01:19.50 | [agatha] | yeah you mean the mixer? checked there nothing is muted |
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| 01:20.29 | inigo | no, i say "hardware" control (pyshical buttons or some key) |
| 01:20.36 | [agatha] | nope |
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| 01:20.49 | [agatha] | nothing |
| 01:21.00 | inigo | what desktop do tou use ? |
| 01:21.11 | inigo | gnome, kde, etc... do you know ? |
| 01:21.29 | [agatha] | now kde4 but also happens in gnome |
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| 01:21.45 | inigo | and which programs do you use to test the mic. ? |
| 01:22.17 | [agatha] | in gnome the sound recorder and in kde the ... i cant remember the name sec |
| 01:22.21 | inigo | in gnome sometimes you have to go to preferences -> sound and try diferent settings for the mic. |
| 01:22.59 | [agatha] | i have tried almost anything i could think about... i am not sure if there is any way to check if its working in general |
| 01:23.08 | [agatha] | or there's something missing |
| 01:24.01 | inigo | you can try http://www.google.es/search?hl=en&q=alsa+mic+ICH7 |
| 01:24.10 | inigo | or adding your laptop model |
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| 01:25.03 | [agatha] | thanks i will try... i am completely nuts with this |
| 01:26.18 | inigo | [agatha], try it... and if you can't, try another time another day... don't loose your ilusion for it |
| 01:26.34 | inigo | [agatha], hardware support sometimes sucks |
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| 01:26.49 | inigo | but it is by vendors... not by open source programers :) |
| 01:27.04 | [agatha] | noo inigo i will not hehehe i love linux... and in 6 months i've had a lot of problems which i have always managed to fix before or later :D |
| 01:27.15 | [agatha] | its only a week with debian ;) too early to be upset hehe |
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| 01:28.07 | inigo | [agatha], http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/SoundcardTesting |
| 01:28.21 | inigo | here you have instructions to test "recording" in other way |
| 01:28.47 | [agatha] | checking |
| 01:29.09 | inigo | arecord -vv -fdat foo.wav you will need alsa-utils installed |
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| 01:29.42 | inigo | then aplay -vv foo.wav (or double click it :-) |
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| 01:31.06 | inigo | 02:29 a.m. in spain... time to bed and (as always) tomorrow arrive late to the work (and part late to) |
| 01:31.13 | inigo | good look |
| 01:32.12 | gewt | I love mangets |
| 01:32.15 | gewt | magnets* |
| 01:32.17 | gewt | adn wrong tab |
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| 01:50.03 | kshah | okay, I severely broke my shit, and need some help with apt-get... I can't properly apt-get remove --purge some_package... I installed and remove trac / python improperly |
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| 01:50.13 | kshah | I need to completely and utterly purge python |
| 01:50.17 | kshah | and reinstall it properly |
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| 01:52.25 | amphi | did you try removing the broken packaqe with dpkg? |
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| 01:53.54 | thebeerhunter | hi. deleted /var/mail/usename by accident |
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| 01:54.08 | thebeerhunter | how can i get exim and mutt to work again? |
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| 01:54.56 | amphi | touch it |
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| 01:55.14 | amphi | thebeerhunter: it was an mbox file? |
| 01:55.17 | thebeerhunter | tried it already |
| 01:55.18 | thebeerhunter | yes |
| 01:55.40 | CompWizrd | permissions set right on the touched file? |
| 01:55.40 | thebeerhunter | not sure if it maybe checks atime or something... |
| 01:55.44 | thebeerhunter | yes |
| 01:55.46 | CompWizrd | ownership, too? |
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| 01:55.52 | thebeerhunter | yes |
| 01:56.01 | limpio | hifi, anybody knows of a mozilla add-on/plugin that makes this browser usable with the keyboard? |
| 01:56.17 | thebeerhunter | bob:mail u=rw, g=rw, o= |
| 01:56.32 | limpio | sorry i meant hi |
| 01:56.42 | limpio | not hifi |
| 01:56.43 | dondelelcaro | limpio: vimperator |
| 01:56.49 | thebeerhunter | any other suggestions? |
| 01:56.51 | PointSource | thebeerhunter: can you copy another and rename, re-permission? |
| 01:57.11 | thebeerhunter | i guess i can add a user and see if it does that for me |
| 01:57.11 | PointSource | from the same dir |
| 01:57.21 | dondelelcaro | thebeerhunter: mutt will work just fine without that file |
| 01:57.56 | limpio | dondelelcaro, i know about that one, wasn't there another which gave the browser a different name? thank you |
| 01:58.06 | thebeerhunter | well i am using fetchmail to get from a pop server |
| 01:58.10 | dondelelcaro | limpio: different name? |
| 01:58.32 | limpio | dondelelcaro, yeah, is a firefox stripped |
| 01:58.57 | PointSource | limpio: hit-a-hint? |
| 01:58.57 | PointSource | think that's what it's called... |
| 01:59.05 | thebeerhunter | fetchmail was working... too |
| 01:59.12 | kshah | amphi: no, dpkg is returning errors, i don't know how to use dpkg.. i'll look it up |
| 01:59.38 | limpio | ok, i'll check that and keep googling, thank you guys |
| 02:00.22 | amphi | limpio: IIRC, there's an option to use tab to navigate links, and perhaps another to show a cursor |
| 02:00.58 | thebeerhunter | got it |
| 02:01.11 | limpio | amphi, no, i checked those, that's not it, thanks bud |
| 02:01.12 | thebeerhunter | redid the permissions and restarted exim |
| 02:02.06 | amphi | limpio: damn - I've been off ff/iw for a while |
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| 02:03.45 | Lagbolt | hi |
| 02:04.10 | PointSource | hi Lagbolt |
| 02:04.48 | thebeerhunter | working nice now... |
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| 02:07.59 | PointSource | Hi, I have a problem too. A while ago the synaptics touchpad driver devs disabled tap-to-click. I can enable it again, but not without disabling hotplug mice in the process. |
| 02:08.03 | PointSource | Its a xorg.conf issue, but I can't see how i can fix it. |
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| 02:10.38 | thebeerhunter | ok, not mutt wont read my mbox file |
| 02:11.29 | thebeerhunter | i do c and open /var/mail/bob |
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| 02:12.00 | asg | thebeerhunter: /usr/share/doc/mutt/manual.txt.gz will tell you all you need to know |
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| 02:19.15 | thebeerhunter | i honestly don't see a single thing in there that talks about reading from a mbox file |
| 02:19.33 | thebeerhunter | other than moving deleted mail to an mbox file... which i already knew |
| 02:20.02 | dondelelcaro | thebeerhunter: what does it say when it fails to open it? |
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| 02:24.31 | PointSource | ah well... thx anyway |
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| 02:27.47 | micols | how do i redirect one udp port to another one without iptables and preferably with some lightweight software? |
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| 02:29.02 | arisv | everything is cool with wireless. let me ask, load average: 1.01, 1.03, 0.93 is bad for a p4 without compiling or doing sth extremely heavy, isn't it? |
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| 02:31.39 | mimcpher | arisv, load average is an indicator of how many processes are waiting, so something like compiling wouldn't nessicarily raise the load |
| 02:32.06 | arisv | mimcpher: so that load averages, are normal? |
| 02:32.06 | arisv | :) |
| 02:32.23 | mimcpher | no thats fine |
| 02:33.13 | arisv | no and fine? :P |
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| 02:45.01 | jackg | hello guys,now i run "nc6 -u <ipv6 address>" ,but result is "nc6: command not found" .which packages i must install for running this command. thanks in advance |
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| 02:55.11 | dmoerner | jackg, netcat6. use apt-file in the future to search. |
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| 02:59.10 | jackg | thanks a lot, i have installed this package~ |
| 03:00.39 | arisv | dmoerner: which browser works better with flash? firefox? |
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| 03:00.50 | arisv | just ur opinion |
| 03:01.03 | dmoerner | arisv, i use iceweasel for everything |
| 03:01.27 | arisv | dmoerner: does iceweasel eat u as many resources as everyone? |
| 03:01.56 | dmoerner | arisv, i have no problems with it. although i don't know what "eat u" means. |
| 03:02.07 | arisv | eat = cpu use |
| 03:02.10 | arisv | let's say |
| 03:03.00 | amphi | it loves ram, and has a taste for cpu at times |
| 03:03.24 | arisv | :D |
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| 03:09.23 | ice799 | Hi - is there someway I can get apt to list the packages which depend on a package I name? |
| 03:09.32 | ice799 | err |
| 03:09.34 | ice799 | no |
| 03:09.41 | arisv | what do u mean ice799? |
| 03:09.42 | ice799 | I want to get the dependencies for a package |
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| 03:09.58 | ice799 | I have a package A, and I want to know which packages must also be installed before A can be installed |
| 03:10.04 | ice799 | I don't actually want to install them, I just want a list of them |
| 03:10.15 | arisv | ice799: if u type apt-get install package, it will download you and install you all the dependencies automatically. |
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| 03:10.26 | arisv | aaaaar, just to see them |
| 03:10.31 | ice799 | yeah |
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| 03:10.57 | arisv | ice799: so if u go at packages.debian.org and type the package you want, you'll get a list of its dependencies |
| 03:11.00 | arisv | :) |
| 03:11.05 | K_Sakura | ice799: If you use aptitude, you can just press enter on the package name, and scroll down. |
| 03:11.22 | ice799 | K_Sakura: no gui, sry./ |
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| 03:11.43 | K_Sakura | aptitude is command line. |
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| 03:12.15 | ice799 | K_Sakura: you said "scroll down" =] |
| 03:12.21 | ice799 | arisv: that worked, thanks. |
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| 03:12.44 | arisv | ice799: no prob, but without gui? links? |
| 03:12.46 | arisv | :) |
| 03:13.19 | ice799 | arisv: you bet |
| 03:13.21 | Saz|Laptop | so apparently nero digital audio requires GLIBC_2.4, has ayone managed to run this on etch? |
| 03:13.59 | arisv | ice799: I bet on links |
| 03:14.01 | arisv | lol |
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| 03:16.17 | Hun4334 | hello |
| 03:16.17 | Hun4334 | how can I wipe out entire / dir? rm -fR / |
| 03:16.55 | arisv | Hun4334: rm -rf / |
| 03:16.58 | stew | no |
| 03:17.08 | arisv | sorry |
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| 03:17.17 | stew | Hun4334: running rm -rf / from a running system is likely to make the system you are running it from crash |
| 03:17.32 | stew | Hun4334: if you really need to remove EVERYTHING you need to boot some other os from some other hard drive |
| 03:17.44 | stew | or some other partition |
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| 03:19.27 | DogBoy | I did that years ago |
| 03:19.56 | DogBoy | as I recall it didn't actually crash |
| 03:20.05 | DogBoy | wasn't good for much after though |
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| 03:49.02 | Saz|Laptop | is sourceforge's svn server down? |
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| 03:49.27 | pngwen | Saz|Laptop Which one are you trying to access? |
| 03:49.42 | Saz|Laptop | any project's |
| 03:49.51 | Pavlz | hello |
| 03:50.05 | Pavlz | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:50.05 | Saz|Laptop | http://<projectname>.svn.sourceforge.net gives me a connection refused error |
| 03:50.15 | Saz|Laptop | regardless of the project name |
| 03:51.31 | pngwen | Pavlz: If you are using firefox, you can get an extension called unplugger that does it. |
| 03:51.54 | pngwen | Saz|Laptop: Wow, I'm seeing that too. I can't even access my own projects' svn servers. |
| 03:51.58 | Saz|Laptop | :/ |
| 03:52.03 | Saz|Laptop | great timing |
| 03:52.13 | Pavlz | where i take it ? |
| 03:52.17 | jamon | something's listening on port 8080 on that serve |
| 03:52.47 | pngwen | Pavlz: Just go to the add extensions section and install it. It's pretty easy to use. |
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| 03:56.45 | pngwen | jamon: That one opens a session for me, but it's not completing any http requests. Odd... |
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| 04:20.18 | adrenaline | has anybody set up NIS client on debian with a Red Hat NIS server? |
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| 04:38.35 | freebird2 | hello you all |
| 04:40.59 | freebird2 | test |
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| 04:43.33 | Octalot | !trout freebird2 |
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| 04:44.23 | freebird2 | Octalot: trout ?? what is that |
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| 04:44.59 | freebird2 | !trout Octalot |
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| 04:45.00 | Octalot | apparently nothing |
| 04:45.00 | Octalot | dpkg greet freebird2 |
| 04:45.00 | dpkg | G'day, freebird2 |
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| 04:45.14 | freebird2 | dpkg greet Octalot |
| 04:45.14 | dpkg | Moo, Octalot |
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| 04:45.22 | freebird2 | Octalot: lol |
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| 04:45.47 | Octalot | what were you wanting to test? |
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| 04:45.49 | freebird2 | someone has stollen my nickname, can`t believe it, now I`ve to be number 2, lol |
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| 04:46.17 | Maliuta | freebird2: that's what nickserv is for |
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| 04:46.40 | freebird2 | I`ve been away for a while, |
| 04:46.44 | freebird2 | Maliuta: |
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| 04:47.09 | freebird2 | Maliuta: where are you from ? |
| 04:47.39 | Maliuta | freebird2: where are any of us from? |
| 04:48.02 | Maliuta | freebird2: what is existence anyhow? |
| 04:48.46 | freebird2 | Maliuta: we don`t know man, but for now, I`ll just keep working, so I don`t stop existing before time ... |
| 04:49.26 | Maliuta | time is a relative |
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| 04:50.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | adrenaline, ... /msg dpkg anyone use - or just /msg dpkg anyone |
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| 04:51.34 | adrenaline | CutMeOwnThroat, ? |
| 04:52.24 | freebird2 | Maliuta: you`re probably from venus ... am I wrong ?? |
| 04:53.24 | Maliuta | freebird2: well one of the strands of DNA is female ... haven't had the mutant strand tested yet |
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| 04:56.01 | jonathon | i am ssh into a debian box, and am wondering what are the commands? |
| 04:56.15 | jonathon | and how do i open something? to read inside it. |
| 04:56.16 | stoned | jonathon, to do what? |
| 04:56.33 | stoned | !tell jonathon about grounding' |
| 04:56.35 | stoned | !tell jonathon about grounding |
| 04:56.52 | freebird2 | Maliuta: well, you better |
| 04:56.54 | K_Sakura | jonathon: less, more, vim, vi, nano, joe, cat.... |
| 04:57.06 | stoned | jonathon, debian defaults to nano |
| 04:57.15 | stoned | and vi I think |
| 04:57.35 | jonathon | how do i move folders from my home to a folder on my desktop? |
| 04:58.11 | K_Sakura | 'mv <filename> Desktop' |
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| 04:58.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | adrenaline, nobody will answer you anything if you don't ask a real question... |
| 04:59.00 | K_Sakura | (Or ~/Desktop -- assuming that ~/Desktop is where kde/gnome checks for its 'desktop' contents.) |
| 05:00.37 | adrenaline | Oh sorry I set up NIS on my network my master server is Centos my client is debian. I set it up per instructions I found. It does recognise the network eg "domainhostname" resolves but it won't create the user on the client any ideas? |
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| 05:01.21 | adrenaline | it does error but the error is generic something like home= \nonexistent |
| 05:01.33 | niko__ | I just upgraded to X.Org 7.4 in experimental and now all mouse/keyboard input in X11 does not work. |
| 05:01.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | home is missing? |
| 05:01.35 | adrenaline | but it should create it when I log in |
| 05:01.42 | adrenaline | ya |
| 05:01.43 | niko__ | Is there any package I can check to make sure this is working? |
| 05:02.04 | niko__ | Or rather, what package(s) handle X.Org input from mouse and keyboard? |
| 05:02.10 | \amethyst | adrenaline: only if you use pam_mkhomedir |
| 05:02.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | adrenaline, I don't think it should be created... it should probably be mounted (?) - but that's up to you |
| 05:02.18 | adrenaline | In the password file after trying I added +::::: to the last line but that didn't work |
| 05:02.20 | niko__ | I can't even Ctrl+Alt+Backspace |
| 05:02.40 | adrenaline | It is supposed to create it when I log in as a new user |
| 05:02.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | niko__, haha... the same happened to me |
| 05:03.00 | niko__ | CutMeOwnThroat: Did you fix it? |
| 05:03.06 | adrenaline | \amethyst, I am supposed to use pam_mkhomedir with NIS? |
| 05:03.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | niko__, xserver-xorg-input-mouse and xserver-xorg-input-kbd packages |
| 05:03.26 | \amethyst | adrenaline: if you want nonexistent home directories to be created on login |
| 05:03.31 | adrenaline | It didn't create the user at all tho |
| 05:03.45 | \amethyst | adrenaline: does getent passwd list the user? |
| 05:03.48 | adrenaline | That was the only error |
| 05:03.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | niko__, pretty stupid that one can "lose" those on an upgrade |
| 05:04.01 | niko__ | CutMeOwnThroat: But those are installed for me... =( |
| 05:04.11 | adrenaline | nope |
| 05:04.43 | adrenaline | It did add some 0's to my +::0:0:::: line |
| 05:04.54 | adrenaline | What ever that means |
| 05:05.13 | niko__ | CutMeOwnThroat: Yours were just missing and you installed them and it all worked after that? |
| 05:05.21 | adrenaline | I am not even sure if that is needed I just read that somewhere |
| 05:05.50 | \amethyst | adrenaline: and you did set up nis in /etc/nsswitch.conf on the client? |
| 05:05.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | niko__, yes - they didn't get pulled in with the update - what exactly does "dpkg -l xserver-xorg-input\* |grep ii" show? |
| 05:06.03 | adrenaline | \amethyst, yes |
| 05:06.11 | adrenaline | nis files |
| 05:06.45 | adrenaline | I didn't use compat tho |
| 05:07.04 | adrenaline | I actually edited passwd nis files etc |
| 05:07.33 | \amethyst | adrenaline: hm, what if you explicitly do getent passwd username (for a non-local NIS user) --- does that give anything? |
| 05:08.03 | adrenaline | nope |
| 05:08.24 | adrenaline | ypwhich does give me the domain name tho |
| 05:08.31 | adrenaline | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:08.41 | adrenaline | something in Debian that I am missing |
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| 05:09.12 | niko__ | CutMeOwnThroat: It shows -all, -evdev, -kdb, -mouse, -synaptics, and -wacom |
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| 05:09.48 | adrenaline | rpcinfo shows portmapper and nfs and ypbind as running |
| 05:09.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, same as I have (except for the -all one which is surely a metapackage) |
| 05:10.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | niko__, but it's only in X, right? |
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| 05:11.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | niko__, look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log for something suspicious? perhaps exactly those modules are not loaded |
| 05:11.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | niko__, ehe - actually I also have -void ... whatever for - but that shouldn't be it |
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| 05:15.18 | therealnanotube | hi. how "safe" is it to run debian testing, generally speaking? |
| 05:16.30 | adrenaline | How good are you at linux? |
| 05:17.13 | therealnanotube | well, i haven't written any drivers, but i know my way around. :) |
| 05:17.15 | mimcpher | I would consider it at least as safe as most standard windows desktops. IE, you might have security concerns, you might have stability problems. You'll have to fix them in the linuxey ways, though, if that makes sense. |
| 05:17.31 | adrenaline | I would feel pretty safe then |
| 05:17.49 | mimcpher | I wouldn't use it for a production server with services open to the web |
| 05:17.57 | mimcpher | I run testing on my development workstations though. |
| 05:18.29 | K_Sakura | I consider testing to be pretty stable. (Its unstable that's scary.) |
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| 05:19.58 | therealnanotube | hm, ok, let me also ask a follow-up question, then: if i'm looking for a pretty stable rolling-release distro, what would you recommend? not a server, but my main workstation comp, so it can't be spazzing out with every second update. |
| 05:20.01 | K_Sakura | I'd say from (limited) experience that Windows is about a third (or less) as stable as Unstable. |
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| 05:20.39 | therealnanotube | K_Sakura: how about compared to ubuntu? (haven't used windows in a while, so the windows comparison doesn't quite do it for me :) ) |
| 05:21.12 | mimcpher | therealnanotube, I haven't used it for a while, but debian testing used to be at least if not more stable than ubuntu. |
| 05:21.57 | K_Sakura | I've never tried ubuntu -- I tried SuSE (killed it in a day), Red Hat (killed it in a week), and Debian (killed it only twice or so in 5-6 years). |
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| 05:24.21 | therealnanotube | mimcpher: K_Sakura: hm, i see, thanks :) so would you say that it would be about as stable as any rolling-release distro out there? |
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| 05:24.39 | K_Sakura | Although I find that I end up doing a 'clean' install more because I'm replacing my boot drive. |
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| 05:25.57 | K_Sakura | I've tried Unstable for about three months (IIRC), it broke a tonne of stuff. Stable for about 5-6 months, found it to be too slow on the updates, and for most of the last 5-6 years I've run Testing. |
| 05:26.04 | mimcpher | I think the only thing with testing is you should review what gets updated. |
| 05:26.16 | mimcpher | Like with stable you can update without even looking |
| 05:26.30 | niko__ | CutMeOwnThroat: I see no errors |
| 05:27.01 | K_Sakura | With testing sometimes there are new bugs that break a package. And you need to revert to an older version that didn't have the bug. |
| 05:28.28 | therealnanotube | K_Sakura: mimcpher: adrenaline: ok, thanks, guess i'll give it a whirl, then. :) |
| 05:28.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | niko__, strange - there are often *some* EE's - some WW-type warnings that sound interesting? |
| 05:28.39 | adrenaline | Good luck |
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| 05:29.15 | K_Sakura | Testing is generally almost as stable as Stable. Just the code hasn't had as many eyes and systems look over it, or test it. |
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| 05:30.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | niko__, e.g. sais for me (**) Configured Mouse: Device: "/dev/input/mice", then protocol, my options etc. |
| 05:31.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | actually ends with "adding extended input device [blabla - a line each, one for KEYBOARD and MOUSE] |
| 05:32.53 | niko__ | The only line in the log with anything about the mouse |
| 05:32.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | hell, why do I have xserver-xorg-video-s3virge and 1000 others installed... guess if I ever need space on that disk, I'll know where to get it |
| 05:33.19 | niko__ | says "(==) RADEON(0): Silken mouse enabled" |
| 05:33.26 | dmoerner | CutMeOwnThroat, to easily remove then, aptitude purge ~nxserver-xorg-video!~nyourvideocard |
| 05:33.43 | dmoerner | you should escape the whole search sequence with single quotes |
| 05:33.55 | dmoerner | it's about 7 mb of extra space |
| 05:34.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | dmoerner, thanks! - I thought I'll just keep them... |
| 05:34.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh - only 7mb for that many packages? |
| 05:34.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm |
| 05:34.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | true, each is probably just one module |
| 05:34.42 | niko__ | still doesn't understand why the mouse and keyboard are broken in X11 |
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| 05:36.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | niko__, http://pastebin.com/f4cd66b24 is my xorg.conf, if you want to compare the kbd/mouse sections |
| 05:37.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | and I wrote my root password into it, to make it a more interesting reading |
| 05:38.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | dmoerner, on the other hand, its about 20 entires in the package list that you save :) |
| 05:38.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | 50 |
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| 05:43.37 | niko__ | CutMeOwnThroat: THANK YOU! |
| 05:43.39 | niko__ | wtf |
| 05:43.43 | niko__ | Stupid as hell |
| 05:43.59 | niko__ | The ServerLayout section |
| 05:44.19 | niko__ | needed the InputDevice lines for mouse and keyboard |
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| 05:52.21 | esthar | CutMeOwnThroat: Okay |
| 05:52.23 | esthar | I'm back in X11 finally |
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| 05:53.03 | TooTall23 | YO YO YO |
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| 05:55.58 | kunwon1 | yo? |
| 05:56.00 | Sazpaimon | is it possible to have a 64 and 32 bit version of a library installed from 2 deb files? |
| 05:56.26 | Sazpaimon | ive noticed that even if i install a 32 bit version of a library the 64 bit version replaces it instead of works alongside it |
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| 06:08.25 | Agiofws | can someone help me filter messages with that line "Subject: fw: Fwd:" using a procmail rule i have used www.imagebin.org/30600 and www.imagebin.org/30601 can anyone help me ? |
| 06:08.45 | Agiofws | batcoder-7, thats always an option |
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| 06:30.09 | bubble | can somebody help me please? |
| 06:30.20 | bubble | I'm trying to install virtual box :S |
| 06:31.47 | bubble | please? http://www.pastebin.ca/1247603 |
| 06:31.57 | bubble | =( |
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| 06:33.22 | Agiofws | can someone help me filter messages with that line "Subject: fw: Fwd:" using a procmail rule i have used www.imagebin.org/30600 and www.imagebin.org/30601 can anyone help me ? |
| 06:35.03 | neoice | bubble: all I see is a permission error. chmod the directory? |
| 06:35.14 | bubble | idk how |
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| 06:35.26 | deface | bubble: chmod |
| 06:35.28 | deface | lol |
| 06:35.33 | neoice | man chmod |
| 06:35.46 | neoice | 755 is the debian standard for directories |
| 06:36.15 | bubble | idk which directory to chmod i mean |
| 06:36.16 | neoice | if you dont know chmod, I'd wager that VirtualBox is going to be out of your comfort zone quickly. |
| 06:36.24 | neoice | the one you're downloading to. |
| 06:36.35 | neoice | oh |
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| 06:36.45 | neoice | users cant usually write to /home |
| 06:36.51 | neoice | so cd into ~/ |
| 06:36.54 | neoice | and then try |
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| 06:37.01 | deface | bubblegum@mikef:/home |
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| 06:52.35 | limu | hi :) |
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| 06:54.54 | frenzy42 | is anyone familar with how to create an encrypted debian domU on a redhat dom0 |
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| 06:57.03 | Swirly | #selinux |
| 06:57.06 | Swirly | oos |
| 06:57.09 | Swirly | sorry guys |
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| 07:26.04 | JyZyXEL | anyone with Iceweasel, does it support mouse thumb buttons? |
| 07:26.34 | JyZyXEL | like for Previous and Next page |
| 07:26.49 | boggy` | I believe so |
| 07:26.55 | boggy` | *i dont' |
| 07:27.04 | JyZyXEL | hmm damn |
| 07:27.20 | JyZyXEL | believe? |
| 07:27.31 | boggy` | no, i dont think u can at all |
| 07:27.33 | bubble | can i get some help please? |
| 07:27.43 | JyZyXEL | don't think? |
| 07:27.49 | JyZyXEL | doesn't sound very convinsing |
| 07:27.57 | boggy` | bubble: try asking a question. |
| 07:28.01 | bubble | im trying to install virtual box, but i have a custom kernal, so im trying to install a new one and install grub |
| 07:28.05 | boggy` | JyZyXEL : google.com/linux |
| 07:28.11 | bubble | i typed this: sudo apt-get install grub linux-image-2.6-486-etchnhalf linux-headers-2.6-486-etchnhalf |
| 07:28.41 | boggy` | use apt-cache search linux-image-u-need |
| 07:28.45 | boggy` | then apt-get it |
| 07:28.51 | bubble | and got this: http://pastebin.ca/1247629 |
| 07:29.07 | bubble | that is the one i need i think |
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| 07:30.10 | boggy` | try apt-get remove linux-image-2.6* |
| 07:30.15 | boggy` | then apt-get it |
| 07:30.40 | boggy` | use the * make sure it removes the other images u might have in use or on the system |
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| 07:32.01 | bubble | http://pastebin.ca/1247632 |
| 07:32.06 | bubble | is that fine? |
| 07:32.54 | boggy` | yes |
| 07:33.00 | boggy` | remove them |
| 07:33.07 | bubble | kk |
| 07:33.45 | bubble | http://pastebin.ca/1247633 |
| 07:34.03 | piko | Hi, I have strange problems with network on my amd64 debian - I can not set the eth1 (the only network card) to take ip address by dhcp directly from my switch (dhclient manually works), the connection sometimes perhaps breaks because ssh connection falls. Could anyone give some hints? My /etc/network/interfaces contains only :auto lo eth1 <\n> iface lo inet loopback <\n> allow-hotplug eth1 <\n> iface eth1 inet dhcp |
| 07:35.51 | boggy` | can u see the card in lspci? |
| 07:36.02 | piko | yes, I use it right now |
| 07:36.22 | bubble | boggy`, help me please? :) |
| 07:36.37 | piko | sorry? |
| 07:37.07 | piko | boggy`: after reboot, the card is up (the ifconfig said) |
| 07:37.52 | piko | I do not see any reason for this and it seems to me that during boot it does not try to get dhcp |
| 07:38.05 | boggy` | bubble, install the proper image and then try to install what u want |
| 07:38.08 | JyZyXEL | its way too fucking hard trying to make mouse thumb button work |
| 07:38.20 | boggy` | could be a driver issue |
| 07:38.29 | boggy` | did u try search for a proper linux driver for that card? |
| 07:38.41 | boggy` | JyZyXEL it is not possible |
| 07:38.42 | bubble | boggy` |
| 07:38.43 | bubble | sudo apt-get install grub linux-image-2.6-486-etchnhalf linux-headers-2.6-486-etchnhalf |
| 07:38.44 | bubble | ? |
| 07:39.08 | piko | boggy`: that was for me? |
| 07:39.36 | boggy` | yes linux-headers-2.6-486 - Header files for Linux 2.6 on x86 |
| 07:39.36 | boggy` | linux-headers-2.6-486-etchnhalf - Header files for Linux 2.6-etchnhalf on x86 |
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| 07:40.08 | boggy` | piko: did u look for a driver for that card? |
| 07:40.20 | boggy` | or are u still running off the auto configure of debian |
| 07:40.36 | piko | boggy`: it is intel e1000e |
| 07:40.41 | boggy` | the generic probe could just be the problem sometimes they dont work that well |
| 07:41.02 | piko | boggy`: well, it works ok with different switch on other place |
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| 07:41.32 | boggy` | hm |
| 07:41.36 | piko | boggy`: and other linux (gentoo) works with the one I use now, so it should not be switch issue |
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| 07:42.54 | boggy` | its not a switch issue |
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| 07:43.03 | boggy` | its a debian issue im aware of that |
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| 07:43.36 | piko | boggy`: sorry, the driver is e1000 |
| 07:43.42 | piko | boggy`: why do you think? |
| 07:43.52 | piko | ... that it is debian issue |
| 07:44.02 | boggy` | did u check ur DHCP server config file? |
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| 07:44.59 | piko | boggy`: I can not, it is just box with web interface, linux/BSD is maybe inside, but I have not looked in |
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| 07:45.51 | bubble | boggy` |
| 07:45.52 | bubble | http://pastebin.ca/1247638 |
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| 07:47.34 | boggy` | well i think it would be wise |
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| 07:47.44 | boggy` | use pastebin and show me your dhcp.conf |
| 07:48.00 | bubble | talking to piko boggy` ? |
| 07:48.01 | Agiofws | since i put this line in ~ "|IFS=' ' && exec /usr/bin/procmail || exit 75 #agiofws" fetchmail canot deliver mail to my mbox and i dint know what logfile to look at or where the mail is going to ? can anyone help me ? |
| 07:48.04 | boggy` | make it quick i have to go to work |
| 07:48.17 | boggy` | that was for piko |
| 07:48.27 | bubble | boggy`, please look at this: http://pastebin.ca/1247638 |
| 07:49.50 | bubble | boggy`, so i aborted and im still stuck where I was before. |
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| 07:49.59 | bubble | can you help me please? :( |
| 07:50.23 | bubble | after i aborted: |
| 07:50.38 | bubble | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 07:50.38 | bubble | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:50.38 | bubble | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 07:51.00 | boggy` | bubble hold on |
| 07:51.07 | bubble | kk, tysm boggy` <3 |
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| 07:51.52 | piko | boggy`: /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf |
| 07:52.02 | piko | boggy`: eh, sorry ... http://pastebin.com/f2517ba89 |
| 07:52.16 | boggy` | bubble: http://74.125.45.104/search?q=cache:bztlET55NO0J:www.lugatgt.org/articles/booting.inittools/downloads/presentation.pdf+how+to+configure+debian+bootloader+to+use+initrd&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us |
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| 07:55.58 | bubble | boggy`, its a bit confusing, can you please help me? :) |
| 07:56.17 | boggy` | did u try editing /etc/rc.d/init.d/dhcpd |
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| 07:56.51 | piko | boggy`: no |
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| 07:57.15 | Tex-Twil | good morning |
| 07:57.20 | bubble | boggy`? :p |
| 07:57.23 | bubble | morning Tex-Twil |
| 07:57.29 | Tex-Twil | please what is the command to configure rc scripts ? |
| 07:57.35 | Tex-Twil | I forgot it |
| 07:57.58 | boggy` | bubble: 1sec |
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| 07:58.06 | bubble | kk, ty boggy` ^^ |
| 07:58.41 | piko | Tex-Twil: Tex-Twil update-rc.d ? |
| 07:58.43 | Tex-Twil | update-rc.d |
| 07:58.45 | Tex-Twil | lol yes |
| 07:58.51 | Tex-Twil | I've just found it :p |
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| 07:59.07 | boggy` | bubble: http://74.125.45.104/search?q=cache:bztlET55NO0J:www.lugatgt.org/articles/booting.inittools/downloads/presentation.pdf+how+to+configure+debian+bootloader+to+use+initrd&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us |
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| 07:59.29 | bubble | boggy`, you just linked me there? |
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| 07:59.36 | boggy` | yes |
| 07:59.45 | boggy` | i have 2 go to work bbl |
| 07:59.47 | bubble | boggy`, its a bit confusing, can you please help me? :) |
| 07:59.52 | bubble | omg :( |
| 08:00.15 | SeReF | s.a linux vps den anlayan varmý acaba _? |
| 08:00.22 | piko | bubble: what are you trying to do? |
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| 08:00.40 | piko | SeReF: not sure if you try english ... |
| 08:00.55 | SeReF | piko turkis |
| 08:01.01 | bubble | piko, install virtualbox |
| 08:01.16 | piko | SeReF: perhaps this is not good channel for turkey language |
| 08:01.28 | piko | bubble: and what is the problem? |
| 08:01.28 | bubble | i have a custom kernal and i needed to install a standard one and install grub |
| 08:01.46 | piko | bubble: why do you need standard one? |
| 08:01.49 | bubble | piko, i need to setup grub i think? |
| 08:02.23 | JyZyXEL | what is a good place to put stuff that needs to get executed after X is up and running? |
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| 08:02.35 | bubble | because i need the kernal headers to get virtualbox working |
| 08:02.43 | bubble | and it doesnt like my custom kernal |
| 08:03.29 | piko | bubble: how have you compiled it? |
| 08:03.43 | piko | I mean the kernel |
| 08:04.03 | bubble | im not sure |
| 08:04.36 | bubble | http://pastebin.ca/1247638 |
| 08:04.43 | bubble | no, i havent |
| 08:04.45 | bubble | it wont work |
| 08:05.10 | piko | bubble: what commands have you sed? |
| 08:05.13 | piko | seused |
| 08:05.17 | piko | sorry, used |
| 08:05.49 | bubble | <jim_p> sudo apt-get install grub linux-image-2.6-486-etchnhalf linux-headers-2.6-486-etchnhalf |
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| 08:05.53 | bubble | that |
| 08:05.55 | boggy` | bubble: why not use linux-headers-2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-amd64 |
| 08:06.06 | bubble | because i dont have a 64bit box? |
| 08:06.21 | boggy` | ur runnin adm |
| 08:06.23 | boggy` | *amd |
| 08:06.29 | boggy` | how r u not 64bit |
| 08:06.31 | piko | bubble: actually why do you use your own kernel? |
| 08:06.34 | boggy` | linux-headers-2.6-amd64-etchnhalf |
| 08:06.38 | boggy` | linux |
| 08:06.47 | boggy` | apt-cache search linux-headers-2.6* |
| 08:06.50 | boggy` | u'll get a big list |
| 08:06.53 | boggy` | read through |
| 08:07.08 | piko | bubble: and please paste uname -a |
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| 08:07.10 | bubble | my uname -r |
| 08:07.10 | bubble | 2.6.18-92.1.1.el5.028stab057.2 |
| 08:07.21 | bubble | okay |
| 08:07.22 | bubble | Linux mikef 2.6.18-92.1.1.el5.028stab057.2 #1 SMP Mon Jul 21 17:08:31 MSD 2008 i686 GNU/Linux |
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| 08:07.34 | boggy` | ok |
| 08:07.39 | boggy` | so ur 6.18 |
| 08:07.44 | boggy` | apt-cache search linux-headers-2.6* |
| 08:07.46 | bubble | and its custom because i didnt do this installation |
| 08:07.50 | bubble | its a VPS |
| 08:07.51 | boggy` | fine 2.6.18 amd |
| 08:08.08 | piko | bubble: do you have sources? |
| 08:08.10 | boggy` | fine the headers matching your uname |
| 08:08.34 | boggy` | or update |
| 08:08.39 | boggy` | apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 08:08.40 | bubble | update? |
| 08:08.41 | bubble | o |
| 08:08.44 | piko | bubble: please try ls -l /usr/src | grep linux |
| 08:09.06 | bubble | drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 2008-11-07 07:50 linux-headers-2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-486 |
| 08:09.06 | bubble | drwxr-xr-x 18 root root 4096 2008-11-07 07:50 linux-headers-2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-common |
| 08:09.06 | bubble | drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2008-11-07 07:50 linux-kbuild-2.6.24 |
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| 08:09.39 | piko | bubble: just for sure WHY some one used his kernel? |
| 08:09.43 | bubble | bubblegum@mikef:/home/aden/services$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 08:09.44 | bubble | Password: |
| 08:09.44 | bubble | Reading package lists... Done |
| 08:09.44 | bubble | Building dependency tree... Done |
| 08:09.44 | bubble | You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these. |
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| 08:09.59 | bubble | sorry >< |
| 08:10.08 | bubble | piko? |
| 08:10.13 | piko | bubble: yes? |
| 08:10.23 | bubble | <piko> bubble: just for sure WHY some one used his kernel? |
| 08:10.31 | bubble | i dont understand that sentence |
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| 08:11.02 | piko | bubble: why the admin that compiled the kernel you use wnated to have his own kernel, doyou know? |
| 08:11.21 | bubble | it was an automatic installation when I bought the VPS |
| 08:11.34 | bubble | i don't know why it used a custom kernal.. |
| 08:11.37 | piko | bubble: sorry, what is vps? |
| 08:11.44 | bubble | virtual private server |
| 08:12.02 | piko | bubble: ah, ok, well what producer? |
| 08:12.08 | bubble | obtrix.net |
| 08:12.36 | piko | bubble: well, could you paste somewhere lspci and lspci -v ? |
| 08:13.01 | bubble | eh, i dont have it installed, sec. |
| 08:13.01 | Agiofws | does anyone know of a service that would send email to to the person that would send you spam mail ? |
| 08:13.02 | piko | bubble: there may be some reason why they used their sources like some patches |
| 08:13.18 | bubble | yes piko, but I need virtualbox |
| 08:13.27 | bubble | and it wont install with this kernal |
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| 08:13.46 | bubble | i need the kernel headers to build the module for virtualbox |
| 08:13.49 | piko | bubble: and actually what happens after you installed it? |
| 08:13.51 | piko | ah |
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| 08:14.03 | bubble | so either i need custom ones |
| 08:14.10 | bubble | or i need a new kernal ;) |
| 08:14.11 | Agiofws | can i tell procmail to send messages to addresses that that land in a certain mail box ? |
| 08:14.41 | bubble | bubblegum@mikef:/home/aden/services$ lspci |
| 08:14.41 | bubble | bash: lspci: command not found |
| 08:15.01 | piko | bubble: does "yum update" do something? |
| 08:15.10 | bubble | its debian |
| 08:15.13 | bubble | i used apt-get |
| 08:15.14 | iveqy | hi, I'm having problems with lenny and my laptop ( with etch it all worked fine). The keyboard settings in X is wrong. I miss backslash (got Ü instead) and the "email-a". How can I reconfigure my keyboardlayout and how do I fint out wich layout to use? |
| 08:15.49 | piko | bubble: well, but eht el in uname output usually means enterprise linux, or not? |
| 08:15.57 | piko | s/eht/the/ |
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| 08:16.37 | piko | iveqy: the most simple is to get some gnome/kde applet and try |
| 08:17.16 | bubble | eh |
| 08:17.48 | startgame412 | hi everyone I'm having a problem with gnome radio when I try to open it i get a message saying could not open /dev/mixer |
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| 08:18.08 | bubble | piko, where do you see el? |
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| 08:19.12 | iveqy | piko: :(, I hoped I wouldn't have to do that but I'll give it a try |
| 08:20.05 | piko | iveqy: otherwise, you can configure /etc/X11/xorg.conf by hand or by con autoconfiguration script |
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| 08:20.19 | endra | hey |
| 08:20.32 | piko | bubble: I thought in your kernel's name |
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| 08:20.49 | piko | bubble: Linux mikef 2.6.18-92.1.1.el5.028stab057.2 #1 SMP Mon Jul 21 17:08:31 MSD 2008 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 08:21.23 | bubble | oic |
| 08:21.26 | bubble | i dont know :\ |
| 08:21.41 | bubble | well what do I do now piko? :) |
| 08:21.54 | piko | bubble: ls -l /proc/config.gz |
| 08:22.17 | bubble | ls: /proc/config.gz: No such file or directory |
| 08:22.42 | iveqy | piko: the problem is that it's a laptop and I don't know which layout I need. I do belive that ubuntu hade a "find my keyboard by typing this keys". Debian should have that too |
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| 08:23.11 | piko | ls -l /boot (in some pastebin) |
| 08:24.03 | piko | iveqy: what window manager do you use? |
| 08:24.13 | piko | gnome/kde/XFce/fluxbox ...? |
| 08:24.28 | bubble | 'bubblegum@mikef:~$ ls -l /boot |
| 08:24.28 | bubble | total 0 |
| 08:25.32 | piko | bubble: that IS strange |
| 08:25.37 | iveqy | piko: fluxbox |
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| 08:25.53 | bubble | piko: :< |
| 08:25.54 | endra | Hey, I finally got my exim4 server working: I can receive mail (with dovecot as imap) and send mail (with custom authenticator).. how do I check if it is secure ? |
| 08:26.00 | iveqy | piko: although I think I've fixed it by running setxkbmap se |
| 08:26.19 | iveqy | that's shouldn't be needed because I already have se as locale. |
| 08:26.32 | startgame412 | anyone know why I'm getting this message hen trying to open gnomeradio? Could not open "/dev/mixer"! |
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| 08:26.45 | piko | bubble: mount |
| 08:26.54 | bubble | hmm? |
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| 08:27.04 | bubble | mount what? |
| 08:27.19 | piko | bubble: mount #command |
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| 08:27.32 | piko | bubble: please execute mount |
| 08:27.43 | piko | iveqy: that should be enough |
| 08:28.00 | piko | iveqy: have you verified it by running locales? |
| 08:28.03 | bubble | bubblegum@mikef:~$ mount |
| 08:28.03 | bubble | /dev/simfs on / type reiserfs (rw,usrquota,grpquota) |
| 08:28.03 | bubble | tmpfs on /lib/init/rw type tmpfs (rw,nosuid) |
| 08:28.03 | bubble | proc on /proc type proc (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec) |
| 08:28.03 | bubble | sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec) |
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| 08:28.14 | bubble | >< |
| 08:28.19 | piko | bubble: use some pastebin |
| 08:28.23 | bubble | kk |
| 08:28.51 | bubble | http://pastebin.ca/1247662 |
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| 08:30.38 | bubble | piko? |
| 08:31.14 | piko | bubble: cat /etc/fstab |
| 08:31.25 | piko | bubble: I try to search for your vmlinuz |
| 08:31.32 | piko | bubble: your kernel |
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| 08:32.01 | bubble | bubblegum@mikef:~$ cat /etc/fstab |
| 08:32.01 | bubble | # UNCONFIGURED FSTAB FOR BASE SYSTEM |
| 08:32.44 | Agiofws | is anyone here sing procmail ? ^From.*bob or ^From:.*bob ? |
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| 08:33.05 | magnetron | is this channel logged? and where are the logs stored? |
| 08:33.45 | piko | bubble: nice, do you have lshw? |
| 08:34.00 | bubble | i guess not? |
| 08:34.20 | bubble | i tried to install it earlier and there wasnt a such package.. |
| 08:34.29 | piko | hwinfo? |
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| 08:35.13 | bubble | http://pastebin.ca/1247666 |
| 08:35.44 | piko | do you have aptitude? |
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| 08:36.24 | mhymn | !tell magnetron -about irclog |
| 08:36.52 | bubble | piko, apt-get |
| 08:36.56 | piko | bubble: try apt-get install aptitude |
| 08:37.36 | bubble | http://pastebin.ca/1247672 |
| 08:37.37 | alliantdevil | anyone available that might be of assistance w/ a netowrk issue after installing xfce4 on debian ppc? |
| 08:37.52 | ptman | what would be the "right" place to set up some extra routing (source based routes, using ip(8))? /etc/network/if-up.d/something and hooking it via /etc/network/interfaces ? |
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| 08:39.30 | bubble | piko, i already had it, what do you want me to do? |
| 08:40.33 | Arafangion | Hey guys, I want to remount my root filesystem on /dev/hdb1 instead of /dev/hda2, the purpose is to get /dev/hda completely unused so that i can change the partition table. |
| 08:40.37 | Arafangion | How do I do so? |
| 08:42.06 | bubble | piko? :( |
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| 08:42.35 | pif | hi, how can I know how long a process has been running given its pid? |
| 08:42.38 | piko | bubble: well I try to figure out why you have special kernel, if there are some patches, you need them. Otherwise, just install some kernel-image and kernel-headers |
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| 08:42.47 | suwro | hello |
| 08:42.53 | piko | pif: top ? |
| 08:42.59 | suwro | is there any method to drop southcast traffic? |
| 08:43.11 | pif | top moves too fast |
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| 08:43.19 | bubble | ps x? |
| 08:43.25 | Arafangion | pif: Then slow it down, or pause it. |
| 08:43.38 | Arafangion | pif: Or use the proc fs. |
| 08:43.40 | bubble | piko, how? |
| 08:43.57 | pif | Arafangion: in /proc/etc. ? |
| 08:43.59 | bubble | piko, I've been trying for 2 hours. |
| 08:44.26 | Arafangion | pif: You can get stats about any process by it's id in /proc |
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| 08:44.53 | piko | bubble: install aptitude, then run it, search for kernel-image ("/"), install it by "+", search for "kernel-headers", install it, install grub, run grub-update reboot and pray |
| 08:45.18 | bubble | piko, I'm not familier with aptitude.. |
| 08:45.23 | bubble | I use apt-get.. |
| 08:45.50 | piko | bubble: aptitude has ncurses (pretty nice) insterface where you can see dependences easily |
| 08:46.00 | bubble | ah |
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| 08:46.01 | piko | bubble: but yes, you can use apt-get |
| 08:46.04 | bubble | somebody told me about that.. |
| 08:48.45 | bubble | piko, i dont knwo which package and aptitude wont let me copy :\ |
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| 08:50.21 | piko | do you have it? |
| 08:50.26 | bubble | have what? |
| 08:50.27 | piko | run aptitude |
| 08:50.30 | bubble | i did |
| 08:50.34 | piko | press / |
| 08:50.37 | bubble | and i did exactly what you said |
| 08:50.45 | bubble | <bubble> piko, i dont knwo which package and aptitude wont let me copy :\ |
| 08:50.58 | bubble | theres several options..i dont know which one i need |
| 08:51.00 | piko | bubble: is there new window? |
| 08:51.09 | bubble | new window? |
| 08:51.11 | piko | I will lead you |
| 08:51.12 | piko | yes |
| 08:51.17 | piko | like in the middle |
| 08:51.21 | bubble | its a terminal? |
| 08:51.25 | piko | yesss |
| 08:51.47 | bubble | there are several kernal-image packages |
| 08:51.55 | bubble | i dont know which one i need for my server... |
| 08:52.29 | bubble | piko? :( |
| 08:52.31 | piko | bubble: noone here knows as we do not know which hw do you have, so just select, perhaps ... |
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| 08:52.55 | bubble | well i dont know either, how can i find out? ;) |
| 08:53.26 | piko | linux-kernel-2.6.24 |
| 08:53.48 | piko | you only need to have the same version as the headers have |
| 08:53.50 | bubble | noen of them say that |
| 08:54.10 | piko | ok, search kernel-image package |
| 08:54.18 | piko | then press enter on it |
| 08:54.58 | piko | it cold be kernel-image-2.6-i686 or something |
| 08:55.11 | bubble | well |
| 08:55.15 | bubble | theres several of them |
| 08:55.27 | bubble | i dont know which architecture i need? |
| 08:55.47 | piko | perhaps i686 |
| 08:55.53 | piko | what other do you have? |
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| 08:57.07 | bubble | eh |
| 08:57.30 | bubble | i asked my vps provider and he said "64bit" |
| 08:57.39 | bubble | theres 4 of them though :X |
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| 08:58.06 | bubble | amd64-generic |
| 08:58.11 | bubble | amd64-k8 |
| 08:58.16 | bubble | amd64-k8-smp |
| 08:58.32 | piko | bubble: run file /bin/ls |
| 08:58.32 | bubble | amd64-em64t-p4 |
| 08:58.37 | bubble | -smp |
| 08:58.39 | bubble | too |
| 08:58.41 | bubble | k |
| 08:59.16 | bubble | that just lists my users? |
| 08:59.25 | bubble | all it did was open /home |
| 08:59.29 | bubble | and show the contents |
| 08:59.58 | piko | bubble: no, run "file /bin/ls" |
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| 09:00.44 | bubble | /bin/ls: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.4.1, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.4.1, stripped |
| 09:00.44 | bubble | mikef:/home# |
| 09:01.19 | piko | bubble: ok, then your provider could give you AMD64 box, but your system is 32bit |
| 09:01.26 | piko | so there is 32bit installation |
| 09:01.40 | bubble | kk |
| 09:01.47 | bubble | so i want a 32bit kernal then |
| 09:01.55 | piko | bubble: yes |
| 09:02.07 | piko | paste somewhere /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 09:03.36 | bubble | http://pastebin.ca/1247691 |
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| 09:06.20 | piko | bubble: ok, then please try to see if there is some kernel-image package version without amd64 |
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| 09:06.56 | bubble | kdat |
| 09:07.00 | bubble | keepalived |
| 09:07.14 | bubble | kernal-image-2.6-386 |
| 09:07.19 | bubble | kernal-image-2.6-686 |
| 09:07.24 | bubble | kernal-image-2.6-686-smp |
| 09:07.37 | bubble | ^ |
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| 09:08.54 | bubble | piko? :) |
| 09:10.39 | joltcan | bubble: go with kernel-image-2.6-686 if you don't have a SMP system (as in multi cpu) |
| 09:10.50 | bubble | its a quad core |
| 09:11.03 | piko | bubble: paste somewhere cat /proc/cpuinfo (for sure) |
| 09:11.15 | bubble | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:11.28 | joltcan | don't know if it's needed anymore |
| 09:11.32 | piko | ? |
| 09:11.35 | joltcan | the smp stuff |
| 09:11.45 | joltcan | bubble: that "uptime" :) |
| 09:11.54 | piko | ah, ok |
| 09:12.17 | OpenTokix | smp is default in any 2.6-686-kernel |
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| 09:12.49 | joltcan | OpenTokix: yeah, but then again, why is there a SMP kernel these days? Legacy is my guess |
| 09:12.56 | OpenTokix | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:13.03 | OpenTokix | joltcan: like all the "kernel-image"-packages |
| 09:13.15 | OpenTokix | joltcan: probably for ancient unattended-install.cfg |
| 09:13.22 | OpenTokix | written in some ancient editor like vi or so. |
| 09:13.24 | joltcan | OpenTokix: yeah, your right |
| 09:13.25 | OpenTokix | ;) |
| 09:13.29 | joltcan | vi <3 |
| 09:14.08 | joltcan | bubble: so install linux-image-2.6.whatever-686 |
| 09:14.12 | OpenTokix | the kernel-image-package depends on linux-image-package |
| 09:14.22 | bubble | http://pastebin.ca/1247693 |
| 09:14.39 | OpenTokix | however - kernel-image----smp depends on a smp-kerne-strange |
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| 09:15.13 | Arafangion | How do I play encrypted dvd's? |
| 09:15.15 | bubble | <bubble> kernal-image-2.6-386 |
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| 09:15.17 | bubble | <bubble> kernal-image-2.6-686 |
| 09:15.17 | bubble | <bubble> kernal-image-2.6-686-smp |
| 09:15.20 | bubble | which one? |
| 09:15.45 | OpenTokix | bubble: depends on your computer, is a p4 or newer? |
| 09:16.02 | joltcan | He said he have a quad core |
| 09:16.07 | OpenTokix | bubble: kernal-image-2.6-686 |
| 09:16.15 | joltcan | kernal-image is a nice name |
| 09:16.38 | joltcan | why not use linux-image and do it right from the beginning? |
| 09:17.18 | Arafangion | !help dvd |
| 09:17.43 | bubble | e : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9300 @ 2.50GHz |
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| 09:19.32 | piko | bubble: use kernel-image-2.6-686-smp |
| 09:19.41 | joltcan | bubble: I would use linux-image-2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 |
| 09:19.42 | piko | bubble: and kernel-headers-2.6-686-smp |
| 09:19.57 | bubble | heh |
| 09:20.02 | joltcan | or linux-image-686 to always have the latest |
| 09:20.04 | bubble | different people telling me different things |
| 09:20.09 | bubble | :\ |
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| 09:20.20 | bubble | use the smp oen then piko? |
| 09:20.23 | bubble | one* |
| 09:20.42 | maligor | Arafangion, you need libdvdcss2, it's in debian multimedia for one |
| 09:20.42 | piko | bubble: use the smp one, you can not go wrong, I think |
| 09:20.45 | joltcan | bubble: nevermind the smp, smp are in all new kernels |
| 09:20.50 | bubble | omfg |
| 09:20.54 | bubble | >.< |
| 09:20.56 | piko | bubble: just for sure |
| 09:21.00 | Arafangion | maligor: I've got it installed. |
| 09:21.01 | joltcan | SMP really only depends on a newer kernel |
| 09:21.16 | bubble | joltcan, will it hurt if i use the smp one? |
| 09:21.17 | Arafangion | maligor: It just doesn't seem to work. :( |
| 09:21.18 | joltcan | so when you think you install smp it will depend on a newer linux-image |
| 09:21.31 | bubble | ugh |
| 09:21.34 | joltcan | bubble: it's just a package name, it depends on any kernel |
| 09:21.36 | piko | bubble: no, it wont, sure |
| 09:21.37 | maligor | Arafangion, dunno then, never tried to play encrypted dvds |
| 09:21.39 | joltcan | so go with SMP if that feels better |
| 09:21.58 | bubble | i dont know which feels better :( |
| 09:22.16 | piko | bubble: just install it, please |
| 09:22.46 | bubble | +? |
| 09:23.09 | piko | bubble: the smp one |
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| 09:23.29 | bubble | i did |
| 09:23.36 | bubble | it turned green, does that mean its installed? |
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| 09:23.49 | piko | bubble: ok, it means that it WILL be installed |
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| 09:23.57 | piko | then search for linux-headers |
| 09:24.01 | suwro | hello |
| 09:24.12 | piko | install the SAME version |
| 09:24.27 | bubble | there isnt a same version |
| 09:24.28 | bubble | :$ |
| 09:24.29 | piko | then di the same with grub and we will proceed to installation |
| 09:24.38 | gane | hello i am not able to use linux-headers-2.6.26-1-486 since its removeing lot number of packages.. |
| 09:24.40 | piko | bubble: sorry, the same variant |
| 09:24.50 | bubble | theres a normal 686 one |
| 09:24.54 | bubble | but no smp |
| 09:25.07 | bubble | theres also 686-bigmem |
| 09:25.13 | bubble | theres also 686-bigmem-etchenhalf |
| 09:25.26 | piko | how much RAM do you have? |
| 09:25.29 | bubble | theres also 686-etchenhalf |
| 09:25.29 | suwro | if I set Options[_]: growright im mrtg, the mrtg mess - graffic is wrong, it shows that I have the highest traffic ever - iptraffic shows that I have no such high value - what can I do? |
| 09:25.32 | piko | just for sure |
| 09:25.33 | bubble | 768 |
| 09:25.42 | gane | currently im using old lenny packages ... now im trying to install the linux-headeers-2.6.20-1-486 package |
| 09:25.50 | piko | bubble: 768 MB? |
| 09:25.53 | bubble | yes |
| 09:26.03 | OpenTokix | bubble: What debian release are you running? |
| 09:26.03 | piko | bubble: ok, then 686 |
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| 09:26.23 | nirupama | how can i increase the space alloted to one partition |
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| 09:26.32 | bubble | okay, its green |
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| 09:26.35 | bubble | not /grub? |
| 09:26.38 | bubble | now* |
| 09:27.02 | piko | OpenTokix: uses etch as for /etc/apt/sources.list http://pastebin.ca/1247691 |
| 09:27.04 | OpenTokix | bubble: open a root-terminal and write update-grub, just to make sure |
| 09:27.16 | fireba11 | nirupama : depends. |
| 09:27.20 | piko | OpenTokix: he does not have it, I think |
| 09:27.26 | piko | bubble: search for grub |
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| 09:27.43 | OpenTokix | piko: he dont have grub? |
| 09:27.59 | nirupama | fireba11, can you explain me |
| 09:28.18 | OpenTokix | aye, playing lvm then |
| 09:28.19 | OpenTokix | *gone* |
| 09:28.26 | piko | OpenTokix: we do not know |
| 09:28.39 | piko | bubble: ok, do you have grub? |
| 09:28.41 | fireba11 | nirupama: it depends on your HD setup, and also on thepartition type if it's possible without deleting and re-creating the partiton |
| 09:28.52 | bubble | no |
| 09:29.05 | bubble | not that im aware of atleast |
| 09:29.08 | neoice | lol. |
| 09:29.08 | bubble | i might :$ |
| 09:29.12 | nirupama | fireba11, so how can i do |
| 09:29.12 | bubble | idk >< |
| 09:29.23 | nirupama | fireba11, its a sata hd |
| 09:29.23 | bubble | piko, grub isnt on the list |
| 09:29.32 | bubble | piko, only grub-doc |
| 09:29.35 | bubble | its documentation |
| 09:29.46 | fireba11 | nirupama: so what partition type you want to resize, you got unpartitioned space on there .. ? |
| 09:29.52 | piko | bubble: ok, press "n" |
| 09:30.12 | piko | bubble: it will search for aother package with grub |
| 09:30.21 | nirupama | fireba11, a partition which is already having an os and I want to increase the space that i gave to it while installing debian |
| 09:30.56 | bubble | piko, it shows a chatbot |
| 09:31.01 | bubble | ggz-grubby |
| 09:31.26 | piko | bubble: then next "n" .... |
| 09:31.52 | bubble | GRand Unified Bootloader :DDD |
| 09:32.01 | bubble | + it? |
| 09:32.04 | piko | "+" |
| 09:32.06 | batcoder-7 | anyone here ever use fluxbox ? |
| 09:32.16 | piko | bubble: ok, and finally "g" |
| 09:32.17 | bubble | it turned purple |
| 09:32.23 | piko | bubble: oh |
| 09:32.29 | Arafangion | batcoder-7: The probability is damn high. |
| 09:32.32 | piko | bubble: press enter and see why |
| 09:32.45 | piko | batcoder-7: higher than one would say |
| 09:33.12 | bubble | piko, i dont know |
| 09:33.23 | batcoder-7 | i want ot use fluxbox i wonder what distro i should use for it |
| 09:33.34 | fireba11 | nirupama: there should be plenty of how-tos out there for that case |
| 09:33.43 | suwro | hmm it seems mrtg didnt like that option in global. - fixed it.1 |
| 09:33.43 | Arafangion | batcoder-7: Dude, use Mac OS X if you want, _ANY_ OS using x11 should work fine. |
| 09:34.22 | nirupama | fireba11, can you redirect me to one such link |
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| 09:34.40 | piko | batcoder-7: you do not need to select distro by fluxbox, it will be in any important one (debian, gentoo, fedora ...) |
| 09:34.41 | suwro | Arafangion: fluxbox is a wm, maxos X is the OS. |
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| 09:35.01 | suwro | Arafangion: mac os use quartz |
| 09:35.02 | Arafangion | suwro: I'm well aware of that. |
| 09:35.13 | Arafangion | suwro: It also comes with X11. |
| 09:35.31 | suwro | Arafangion: it is not stable yet. - i've tested it. |
| 09:35.41 | bubble | piko? :( |
| 09:35.45 | suwro | Arafangion: on leopard. |
| 09:35.59 | bubble | its purple and says -745kB |
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| 09:36.09 | bubble | that means I already have it? |
| 09:36.19 | Arafangion | suwro: Wasn't too bad last I tried, but that was 10.2, or perhaps even 10.1. |
| 09:36.30 | jonny66 | Hi i followed http://wiki.debian.org/SoundFAQ in order to get oss emulation to work but when i do 'aoss quake3' there is sound but its glitching alot. Any ideas to what might be wrong? |
| 09:37.02 | suwro | Arafangion: you can test macos too, on your regular pc - just use mac4all or ideneb or other haxored distro. - it was fun to play with it. |
| 09:37.06 | suwro | lol |
| 09:37.28 | batcoder-7 | piko: i mean, i was using xubuntu while good with there new version they bloated it and its siginifacntly more resourceful and yea not as good as before, i just want what i need and yet run at a pretty good speed |
| 09:37.31 | suwro | correction - leo4all |
| 09:37.49 | Arafangion | suwro: Well, I used it on apple hardware, ppc, worked quite nicely. |
| 09:37.54 | piko | bubble: have you pressed g? If not press it and you will se what packages will be (green) installed, which uninstalled (purple) |
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| 09:38.19 | piko | bubble: paste those that will be removed and those installed |
| 09:38.31 | bubble | piko, i cant paste |
| 09:38.35 | suwro | Arafangion: no ppc here :( - i find mac hardware nonsense expensive |
| 09:38.37 | bubble | its impossible |
| 09:39.03 | bubble | and it says packages to be removed |
| 09:39.05 | bubble | grub |
| 09:39.09 | suwro | piko: what is the problem again? |
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| 09:39.15 | Arafangion | suwro: Over here software is so <censored> expensive (It's a windows dominated market, here), so the mac hardware isn't bad at all in terms of price. |
| 09:39.34 | suwro | Arafangion: where are you from? |
| 09:39.35 | piko | batcoder-7: the speed depends on your hardware, the fastest should be compiled distros like gentoo, but you need to know more things, debian/ubuntu is pretty good |
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| 09:39.42 | Arafangion | suwro: Australia. |
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| 09:39.48 | piko | suwro: sorry? |
| 09:40.01 | suwro | piko: neermind. |
| 09:40.24 | piko | suwro: ok |
| 09:40.28 | suwro | Arafangion: hehe - come to Europe then - here linux looks great :) |
| 09:40.40 | batcoder-7 | piko: with xubuntu 8.04 it was really good, with 8.10 i guess thye bloated it as some people are saying, something is not right for sure, so yea i guess i wont be using fluxubuntu |
| 09:40.42 | Arafangion | suwro: Europe would be nice. :) |
| 09:41.01 | suwro | Arafangion: using it on university, learn kernel programming etc :) |
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| 09:41.33 | bubble | piko?? |
| 09:41.37 | suwro | Arafangion: heck - I had to install windows for some c++ object oriented class - haha... |
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| 09:41.45 | bubble | it wants to remove grub pico |
| 09:41.49 | bubble | piko* |
| 09:41.57 | Arafangion | suwro: For my engineering course, we did VB.NET, C#, and for website programing, we used the most popular web server - IIS. (Which was bullshit, and seriously crap given their setup, but I couldn't complain) |
| 09:42.01 | suwro | buble: what's dpkg -P grub* say? |
| 09:42.32 | piko | bubble: paste the screen somewhere |
| 09:42.36 | suwro | Arafangion: yeah, we've done som IIS research too. |
| 09:42.47 | bubble | piko, i cant |
| 09:42.53 | bubble | piko, its impossible |
| 09:42.56 | suwro | Arafangion: agree with your oppinion ;) |
| 09:42.58 | piko | suwro: it is strange that he has clear /boot |
| 09:43.08 | bubble | aptitude doesnt let me copy because it uses my mouse |
| 09:43.13 | Arafangion | suwro: What VCS system do you use, btw? |
| 09:43.23 | piko | bubble: printscreen? |
| 09:43.25 | suwro | VCS? |
| 09:43.44 | bubble | dpkg: status database area is locked by another process |
| 09:43.44 | dpkg | ...but status database area is already something else... |
| 09:43.56 | bubble | piko |
| 09:44.03 | bubble | the screen is scrollable, theres a lot :S |
| 09:44.03 | Arafangion | suwro: Version Control System. |
| 09:44.04 | piko | bubble: what happens if pressing + on grub? |
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| 09:44.38 | bubble | piko, nothing |
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| 09:44.42 | suwro | still sticked with cvs |
| 09:44.43 | bubble | still purple |
| 09:44.48 | bubble | how do i go back to not remove it? |
| 09:44.50 | piko | press enter on it |
| 09:44.55 | Arafangion | suwro: Sorry to hear that. :( |
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| 09:45.01 | piko | bubble: and you will see what happens |
| 09:45.02 | bubble | k, now what |
| 09:45.14 | suwro | np. we'll upgrade soon - I think |
| 09:45.19 | piko | paste it |
| 09:45.20 | bubble | k, i hit + and its white |
| 09:45.21 | batcoder-7 | suwro: what part of europe you in ? |
| 09:45.23 | piko | if you can |
| 09:45.27 | suwro | batcoder-7: romania |
| 09:45.30 | bubble | FUCK |
| 09:45.30 | batcoder-7 | ah |
| 09:45.37 | bubble | i clicked something |
| 09:45.37 | piko | bubble: perhaps you can not |
| 09:45.43 | piko | and ...? |
| 09:45.44 | bubble | its doing sum ftp thing |
| 09:45.45 | bubble | >_< |
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| 09:45.53 | piko | bubble: ok, you pressed g |
| 09:45.55 | bubble | i tried to select and i forgot it used the mouse |
| 09:45.56 | bubble | no |
| 09:45.58 | bubble | i didnt |
| 09:46.05 | bubble | i clicked something under actions |
| 09:46.11 | suwro | batcoder-7: i've been on berlin - FU. (Freie Universiteet - informatik) |
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| 09:46.27 | piko | bubble: nevermind, you will be prompted if you REALLY want to install, but before saying n, paste the screen |
| 09:46.37 | Arafangion | bubble: Could you use proper english if you can? It's difficult to read text quickly when you've got to re-interpret what people say. |
| 09:46.44 | batcoder-7 | suwro: ah, yea i've met a few people from romania |
| 09:46.48 | bubble | Arafangion, I am |
| 09:46.48 | suwro | batcoder-7: in FU - linux rulez all other os. |
| 09:46.52 | bubble | http://pastebin.ca/1247709 |
| 09:46.53 | Blackhold | hello, I would to mount a server that centralizes all the logs from various gadgets, and then you could see the logs using a webinterface (for example), do you know some program like this? thanks you much |
| 09:47.07 | suwro | batcoder-7: don't be afraid I don't steal credit card numbers - lol |
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| 09:47.13 | Arafangion | bubble: "sum" should be "some". |
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| 09:47.29 | batcoder-7 | suwro: has alot changed there since say 15 years ago ? |
| 09:47.29 | suwro | LOL |
| 09:47.30 | bubble | i'm not an english professor, sorry |
| 09:47.31 | piko | bubble: yes |
| 09:47.48 | Arafangion | bubble: I'm also deaf, so I'm not about to think "Ok, which word does that *sound* like". |
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| 09:48.00 | bubble | Arafangion, I'm deaf and blind |
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| 09:48.01 | suwro | batcoder-7: some - still persist old habbits, but we-re changing, slow but shure - better than never |
| 09:48.07 | luckylittle | Hello friends |
| 09:48.09 | Arafangion | bubble: I'd _hate_ to be blind. :( |
| 09:48.18 | luckylittle | I need some smart tips from you guys |
| 09:48.23 | joltcan | I've heard IRC works fine on braille terminals' |
| 09:48.38 | joltcan | luckylittle: Stay out of drugs and wear sunscreen! |
| 09:48.38 | bubble | yeah..i have to really turn up my resolution to see easy enough |
| 09:48.49 | Arafangion | bubble: Got much residual hearing |
| 09:48.52 | Arafangion | bubble: ? |
| 09:48.55 | luckylittle | How to sort mp3 in command line by their genre? |
| 09:48.58 | bubble | Arafangion? |
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| 09:49.11 | batcoder-7 | suwro: yea, eastern europe has had it hard |
| 09:49.23 | Arafangion | bubble: Are you completely deaf? |
| 09:49.25 | bubble | Arafangion, im just hard of hearing, im not completely deaf. |
| 09:49.43 | joltcan | luckylittle: I would add them to a playlist in a player like xmms2, and then search by genre in the playlist |
| 09:49.47 | suwro | batcoder-7: those who did well on Ceausescu's regime now complains about the old times - most of us had hard time then, I am happy that it's changed, but still 50 years of communism cant' be erased with wather - how they tried to do. |
| 09:49.50 | Arafangion | bubble: I'm completely deaf, but man, I'd hate to be blind. :( |
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| 09:50.08 | bubble | wow..i would hate to be completly deaf.. |
| 09:50.11 | luckylittle | joltcan: I don't have GUI and also I need to sort it to the directories |
| 09:50.13 | batcoder-7 | suwro: that happened in like 1990 right ? |
| 09:50.15 | bubble | you cant hear music? |
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| 09:50.35 | suwro | batcoder-7: now they had to learn that changes are not necesarly in better - they have to work too - on communism they had not. |
| 09:50.37 | bubble | piko, http://pastebin.ca/1247710 |
| 09:50.47 | Arafangion | bubble: Nope, actually I do have a CI but I've never enjoyed music, it's just noice with the CI, and can't hear a thing without it. |
| 09:50.51 | suwro | batcoder-7: 1998 - 15 december |
| 09:50.52 | joltcan | luckylittle: I would use mp3info or similar and put that in a text file, then iterate over the textfile |
| 09:50.52 | Arafangion | bubble: CI is "Cochlear Implant". |
| 09:51.03 | bubble | wow :'( |
| 09:51.06 | batcoder-7 | suwro: what? you sure it wasn't 90 ? |
| 09:51.12 | batcoder-7 | i thought it was 89 or 90 |
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| 09:51.25 | suwro | batcoder-7: 1989 sorry |
| 09:51.35 | batcoder-7 | ah |
| 09:51.36 | Arafangion | bubble: Meningitis at 1, boom, no hearing. :) |
| 09:51.36 | batcoder-7 | yea |
| 09:51.37 | bubble | Arafangion, there must be some type of music you can enjoy |
| 09:51.40 | suwro | mistape. |
| 09:51.43 | luckylittle | joltcan: I found this - http://sourceforge.net/projects/genre-sort/ |
| 09:51.45 | Arafangion | bubble: Nope. |
| 09:52.02 | bubble | can you make out the words? |
| 09:52.08 | Arafangion | bubble: In songs? Haha. |
| 09:52.11 | bubble | yes |
| 09:52.17 | joltcan | luckylittle: never seen, but that seems fine |
| 09:52.17 | Arafangion | bubble: (No) |
| 09:52.21 | batcoder-7 | suwro: i always looked at eastern europe kinda how central america is, im sure eastern is better then central america now though |
| 09:52.24 | bubble | =( |
| 09:52.25 | luckylittle | joltcan: However, it only works on directory full of mp3s... I have lot's of subdirectories |
| 09:52.28 | batcoder-7 | suwro: alot of controversy |
| 09:52.47 | bubble | Arafangion, techno |
| 09:53.01 | Arafangion | bubble: Once in year 6, a girl screamed directly into my ear - even felt the eardrum move in because of the pressure - didn't hear a thing, though. |
| 09:53.10 | bubble | :'( |
| 09:53.15 | joltcan | luckylittle: then you have to bash script a bit, like "for dir in $(ls /path/); do cd $dir ; mp3sortfoobar ; cd .. ; done" or something like that |
| 09:53.35 | bubble | piko, where did you go? |
| 09:53.38 | batcoder-7 | Arafangion: where you located? |
| 09:53.40 | bubble | :$ |
| 09:53.45 | Arafangion | batcoder-7: Australia. :) |
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| 09:53.47 | batcoder-7 | ah |
| 09:53.54 | piko | bubble: I am here |
| 09:53.59 | bubble | http://pastebin.ca/1247710 |
| 09:54.10 | batcoder-7 | as technology improves im sure mor options will become available Arafangion |
| 09:54.13 | piko | bubble: press yes |
| 09:54.31 | batcoder-7 | suwro: i always admired romanian girls though ;) |
| 09:54.33 | piko | bubble: BUT, there is one confusing thing - you have clear /boot |
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| 09:54.52 | suwro | batcoder-7: well romanians girls are great :) |
| 09:54.54 | bubble | piko, ? |
| 09:55.01 | gcbirzan | suwro: Not as great as American ones. |
| 09:55.07 | Arafangion | batcoder-7: With the CI, I can understand speech quite reasonably, but as far as enjoying music, etc, I doubt it very much. Sure, technology does improve, but the brain also has to improve as well. |
| 09:55.11 | bubble | there isnt a yes, its OK |
| 09:55.16 | Arafangion | batcoder-7: It's much more flexible when you're young. |
| 09:55.19 | bubble | and what do you mean i have to clear /boot? |
| 09:55.34 | batcoder-7 | Arafangion: can you speak well ? |
| 09:55.47 | batcoder-7 | gcbirzan: where you at? |
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| 09:56.10 | gcbirzan | At work :-) |
| 09:56.16 | batcoder-7 | i meant country wise |
| 09:56.16 | piko | bubble: mmt |
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| 09:56.20 | Arafangion | batcoder-7: Yup, though I think I've got an accent. ;) Everyone except those who knows africans think I have an african accent. ;) |
| 09:56.20 | gcbirzan | Romania |
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| 09:56.46 | batcoder-7 | Arafangion: you from africa ? |
| 09:56.53 | Arafangion | batcoder-7: Nope. |
| 09:57.06 | Arafangion | batcoder-7: Born and bred aussie, though with an english grandmother. :) |
| 09:57.24 | jpinx | I'd like to install sarge locally to test my skills at upgrading before I tackle a live server. Where can I get a sarge net install? |
| 09:57.25 | bubble | Arafangion, listen to music under the influence of drugs? ;) |
| 09:57.28 | batcoder-7 | gcbirzan: its just a little sterotype that romanian girls are beautiful, i guess in a crowd with american they would justt blend in |
| 09:57.33 | batcoder-7 | Arafangion: ah |
| 09:57.40 | bubble | piko, http://pastebin.ca/1247716 |
| 09:57.47 | piko | bubble: press Ctrl-C and try aptitude -s install linux-image-<the image you selected> kernel-headers-<headers you selected> grub |
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| 09:57.59 | bubble | piko, same message i get everytime i try to do this for the past 2+hours >_< |
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| 09:58.03 | batcoder-7 | Arafangion: you like the au ? |
| 09:58.05 | gcbirzan | batcoder-7: It was a bad pun about the greatness of Americans :-P |
| 09:58.07 | Arafangion | bubble: Music is literally just noise for me, I don't like it, period. |
| 09:58.14 | Arafangion | batcoder-7: It's a good country. |
| 09:58.20 | bubble | =( |
| 09:58.33 | jpinx | batcoder-7: Have you been to Romania? the girls are drop-dead gorgeous - |
| 09:58.38 | piko | bubble: it will say what it tries to do |
| 09:58.44 | piko | bubble: so paste me the output |
| 09:58.48 | batcoder-7 | actually i have not |
| 09:58.52 | piko | bubble: for sure |
| 09:58.54 | bubble | piko, control -c does not work |
| 09:58.57 | gcbirzan | jpinx: I wouldn't go so far. |
| 09:59.11 | jpinx | went that far ;) |
| 09:59.14 | bubble | click abort now? |
| 09:59.36 | batcoder-7 | jpinx: every country has beautiful girls |
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| 10:00.11 | jpinx | batcoder-7: but some countries have more - and you need to walk the streets to realize that |
| 10:00.17 | suwro | gtg |
| 10:00.20 | suwro | have fun |
| 10:00.23 | suwro | bye |
| 10:00.35 | batcoder-7 | jpinx: you form romania too ? |
| 10:00.42 | adb | Bună Ziua |
| 10:00.56 | suwro | Te salut, dar trebuie sa plec, poate alta data! :) |
| 10:01.02 | piko | bubble: so say yes |
| 10:01.22 | jpinx | I lived in Romania for a while |
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| 10:01.28 | batcoder-7 | jpinx: anything foregin is usually considered more beautiful |
| 10:01.31 | jpinx | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:01.36 | bubble | piko, i did |
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| 10:01.40 | batcoder-7 | what do you think of brazil ? |
| 10:01.46 | jpinx | batcoder-7: foreign is relative |
| 10:01.50 | bubble | i dont know what packages to install though? |
| 10:01.57 | jpinx | I am in Peru at the moment |
| 10:02.07 | bubble | <piko> bubble: press Ctrl-C and try aptitude -s install linux-image-<the image you selected> kernel-headers-<headers you selected> grub |
| 10:02.11 | batcoder-7 | jpinx: sucks ;) |
| 10:02.15 | batcoder-7 | i mena peru is ok |
| 10:02.37 | piko | bubble: what is going on? |
| 10:02.42 | jpinx | batcoder-7: girls prettier in Romania or Bulgaria |
| 10:02.54 | batcoder-7 | anyways brazil has some reputation for the whole beautiful girls thing as well, but gringos quickly find out that every girl is not what they saw in the magazine |
| 10:03.16 | bubble | piko, the same thing that goes on every time somebody tries to help me...i always see the same things, no matter what package manager I use.. |
| 10:03.23 | batcoder-7 | most of peru i think is metzimo or less european features, romania is white |
| 10:03.27 | jpinx | lmao - brazil has lots of alternative "girls" |
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| 10:03.47 | batcoder-7 | jpinx: what do you mean ? |
| 10:03.54 | piko | bubble: could you paste? |
| 10:03.57 | jpinx | loves ghana's girls too |
| 10:04.03 | bubble | piko, i already did |
| 10:04.05 | adb | ot! /j #debian-offtopic |
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| 10:04.15 | bubble | im waiting to type what you asked me to because i dont know the packages |
| 10:04.18 | batcoder-7 | ghana is ok |
| 10:04.19 | bubble | <piko> bubble: press Ctrl-C and try aptitude -s install linux-image-<the image you selected> kernel-headers-<headers you selected> grub |
| 10:04.20 | piko | bubble: the screen woth OK/NO? |
| 10:04.30 | bubble | piko, yes, always that same screen |
| 10:04.37 | piko | pressed OK? |
| 10:04.38 | bubble | or a similer one |
| 10:04.40 | bubble | yes |
| 10:04.43 | bubble | im at bash |
| 10:04.53 | piko | and does it do something? |
| 10:04.55 | jpinx | adb: sorry |
| 10:05.00 | adb | np |
| 10:05.09 | bubble | piko, the screen tells you to abort |
| 10:05.18 | bubble | i aborted, now im waiting to type this |
| 10:05.20 | batcoder-7 | jpinx: where are you natively from ? |
| 10:05.21 | bubble | <piko> bubble: press Ctrl-C and try aptitude -s install linux-image-<the image you selected> kernel-headers-<headers you selected> grub |
| 10:05.23 | jpinx | anyone point me a net install for sarge? ^^ |
| 10:05.31 | bubble | i dont know the package names |
| 10:05.47 | jpinx | batcoder-7: #debian-offtopic |
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| 10:07.24 | adb | !tel jpinx about sarge |
| 10:07.47 | jpinx | !tell jpinx about sarge |
| 10:07.58 | piko | bubble: aptitude search kernel-image |
| 10:08.07 | piko | bubble: aptitude search kernel-headers |
| 10:08.13 | piko | bubble: this can help |
| 10:08.16 | jpinx | thanks adb |
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| 10:09.08 | Arafangion | guys, could someone suggest a reasonablely complex public p4 repo I could use? (I want to play around with perforce, and test it, as I convert to another oss system) |
| 10:10.10 | bubble | piko, pastebin.ca froze now -.- |
| 10:10.34 | bubble | i hate linux :'( |
| 10:10.45 | piko | bubble: use rafb.net and do not hate |
| 10:10.47 | Arafangion | bubble: That's hardly the fault of linux. |
| 10:11.01 | bubble | Arafangion, yes it is -.- |
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| 10:12.33 | bubble | http://rafb.net/p/ZqFDJn45.html |
| 10:12.47 | piko | bubble: well frankly, linux is tnot the problem, the problem is that you do not know how to use, that is why we are here to advise you which takes us some time and energy. So, if I had access to your machine, I could do it in five minutes, because I know how. |
| 10:13.27 | bubble | piko, can i pm you? |
| 10:13.33 | piko | bubble: pm? |
| 10:13.38 | bubble | query? |
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| 10:14.10 | piko | bubble: aptitude update && aptitude -s install kernel-image-2.6-686-smp kernel-headers-2.6-686 grub |
| 10:14.13 | piko | bubble: yes |
| 10:14.21 | piko | and paste the output |
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| 10:15.28 | bubble | http://rafb.net/p/xMu7Me19.html |
| 10:16.08 | Agiofws | is there a script or something to grep email addresses from a received email ? |
| 10:16.45 | Arafangion | Agiofws: Of course. |
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| 10:17.15 | Agiofws | ? |
| 10:17.26 | piko | bubble: ok, query me |
| 10:18.09 | bubble | kk |
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| 10:19.41 | Agiofws | Arafangion, ? |
| 10:20.31 | Arafangion | Agiofws: Ever looked at an email header lately? |
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| 10:27.57 | EugenMayer | hello, after just upgrading my mysql-server on a debian etch stable installation, it does not start anymore http://pastebin.com/m791108a |
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| 10:32.18 | Orion_X11 | I have tried to conect a notebook to a pc through crossover cable and I gave to pc > iface eth0 inet static > address 192.168.1.1 > netmask 255.255.255.0 (in /etc/network/interface) and to the notebook > iface eth0 inet static > address 192.168.1.2 > gateway 192.168.1.1 > dns 192.168.1.1 > netmask 255.255.255.0 And I get my internet connection through a wireless pppoe aerial on my roof house. But, I have not had and lucky in connecting the note t |
| 10:32.18 | Orion_X11 | o the internet through my pc. I am using debian in both of them. So, what could be wrong? |
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| 10:33.48 | jpinx | anyone able to tell me how to do an install of sarge when I have no floppy and no cd-burner? |
| 10:34.14 | bubble | net install? |
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| 10:34.18 | kgoetz | sarge? |
| 10:34.49 | jpinx | bubble: yea - netinstall would be good if I could get it started |
| 10:35.14 | acemi | jpinx: with pxe, if you have a tftp server in your network |
| 10:35.31 | jpinx | kgoetz: I need to replicate a live server which needs work/upgrading |
| 10:35.42 | bubble | thumbdrive? |
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| 10:35.53 | jpinx | acemi: whats pxe? |
| 10:36.09 | acemi | boot from network |
| 10:36.12 | jpinx | bubble: my bios won't boot from usb:( |
| 10:36.15 | joltcan | Orion_X11: you need to enable ip_forwarding, and you need to create a MASQUERADE rule in your nat iptables chain. I would suggest googleing those |
| 10:36.17 | adb | !pxe |
| 10:36.17 | dpkg | [pxe] Preboot eXecution Environment, a network boot protocol. http://syslinux.zytor.com/pxe.php, or see http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/478 Also ask about <gPXE>. |
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| 10:36.47 | BUMBACL0T | when remove a package, how do you remove it including its conf files, etc? i mean everything |
| 10:37.02 | kunwon1 | BUMBACL0T, the purge option to apt-get or aptitutde |
| 10:37.08 | enouf | !rube goldberg install |
| 10:37.08 | dpkg | "Hi! I want to install Debian with a 2.6.x kernel on a machine, but I can't boot from floppies, and I can't boot from CD-ROM, and I have no network card. I have only a USB dot matrix printer and a punch card reader." |
| 10:37.33 | Orion_X11 | joltcan: Do I have to do it in the pc and in the notebook as well? Or only in the pc? |
| 10:37.52 | jpinx | enouf: :p |
| 10:38.04 | joltcan | Orion_X11: No, in the PC you are using as router |
| 10:38.04 | bubble | jpinx, :( |
| 10:38.06 | enouf | let your redmond crap become useful ; http://goodbye-windows.com |
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| 10:39.10 | jorge_ | hello |
| 10:39.17 | Orion_X11 | joltcan: I have issued these command > # echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward |
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| 10:39.40 | jorge_ | how can I mount a file system in a folder that I want the only one user can acess |
| 10:39.41 | jorge_ | ? |
| 10:39.58 | joltcan | Orion_X11: and now you have to make sure that the laptop can ping internet and, that is done with the iptables command |
| 10:40.07 | joltcan | Orion_X11: s/ping/connect/ |
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| 10:40.18 | Orion_X11 | joltcan: and this > # sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -j MASQUERADE |
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| 10:40.51 | nxmehta | i'm trying to print a list of packages to a file (dpkg -l > file), but the textwidth in the file seems to be limited (lines are cut off). how are textwidths determined by pipes? |
| 10:40.58 | joltcan | Orion_X11: I think you want a -s 192.168.1.0/24 -o <ppp0> or something like that as well |
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| 10:41.39 | joltcan | Orion_X11: And of course make sure that the FORWARD chain on the PC allows traffic from the latop |
| 10:41.41 | enouf | nxmehta: "COLUMNS=150 ... " or so |
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| 10:42.09 | enouf | nxmehta: what you're showing is redirection, not a pipe |
| 10:42.39 | joltcan | Orion_X11: don't know your ruleset but "iptables -I FORWARD -i <laptop-connected-if> -j ACCEPT" can do that |
| 10:42.51 | enouf | nxmehta: dpkg --get-selections should do what you want |
| 10:42.56 | nxmehta | enouf: whoops, yes i mean redirection. also, my columns var is set pretty high |
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| 10:43.15 | enouf | !selections |
| 10:43.15 | dpkg | One method of cloning debian installs is to take a current debian machine that is setup with the packages you want. Run the command "dpkg --get-selections > ~/selectionfile". Then, after the base install on other machines use that file and do: "dpkg --set-selections < ./selectionfile && apt-get dselect-upgrade". you may want to ask me about <aptitude clone> |
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| 10:43.38 | gane | installing the linux-headers-2.6.20-1-486 removing lot of packages |
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| 10:43.48 | enouf | .20? |
| 10:43.57 | nxmehta | enouf: i like -l because i wanted to read the descriptions (that's what's being cut off) |
| 10:44.07 | enouf | see apt, aptitude -s option |
| 10:44.42 | enouf | nxmehta: well .. that's a $TERM setting or whatever then |
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| 11:04.24 | rhalff | hi i have a awstats.pl that is keep running every hour, but I can't find it in cron, it's only is present in the 'daily' cron, is there anyway I can trace back what is starting this script ? |
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| 11:09.19 | jorge_ | I have an error doing mount -a |
| 11:09.40 | jorge_ | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0, |
| 11:10.01 | jorge_ | I added this line to fstab: /home/ftp_virtual_filesystem/bravo/transporte.ext3 /home/ftp/bravo/transporte ext3 uid=106,gid=65534,loop,rw |
| 11:10.19 | jorge_ | I don't know what is the error |
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| 11:11.06 | jorge_ | any idea? |
| 11:11.21 | jaalto | with find(1) I wanto exclude directoied D1 and D2 and any file F1 and F2, what are the correct prune rules? |
| 11:12.11 | mguezuraga | I'm running Lenny, and I have MySQL 5.0.51a-17. Is there a way to install >= 5.1 (without breaking it all) |
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| 11:12.39 | jaalto | This handled D1 and D2, but how do I exclude also any file F1, F2: "find . -type d \( -name D1 -o -name D2 \) -prune -o -type f" |
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| 11:15.11 | vlt | Hello. I created a "raw image" of an Audio CD using k3b. Now I got two files: A small .toc file and the "raw data" file. I could use k3b (or wodim directly) to burn a new Audio CD. How can I fake that Audio CD actually existing in a cdrom drive (for reading tracks with cdparanoia, for ex.)? |
| 11:15.34 | vlt | I tried to losetup the "raw data" file, bit cdparanoia refuses to work on /dev/loop0 ... |
| 11:15.38 | knxx | what debian package I need to monitor my network packages? I need to see the lost packages of my switch... |
| 11:15.45 | vlt | Any idea? |
| 11:15.45 | stdisease | OK, why do getty/login produce maladjusted output when pressing Ctrl-J instead of the Enter key at the 'login: ' prompt!! |
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| 11:16.07 | EugenMayer | guys if the superblock of an raid is not able to be read, what could i do? ( i cannot mount it ) |
| 11:16.09 | kunwon1 | vlt, I know you can mount iso files, don't know about your format |
| 11:16.37 | vlt | kunwon1: It's not an ISO file, it's a "raw image" of an Audio CD. |
| 11:16.41 | stdisease | let me guess, it's another `debian thing' :/ |
| 11:17.00 | kunwon1 | vlt, right, that's why I said I don't know about your format ;) |
| 11:17.00 | jorge_ | can anyone about mount problem? |
| 11:17.05 | jorge_ | help me |
| 11:17.21 | kunwon1 | vlt, what file extensions exactly are used by your disk image? |
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| 11:17.53 | vlt | knxx: "iftop" (and a lot of others) displays traffic on network devices |
| 11:18.04 | knxx | vlt thanks |
| 11:18.08 | piko | boggy`: we resolved bubble's problem, one file needed to be deleted for the udev could be properly installed and initramfs-tools could work |
| 11:18.14 | vlt | kunwon1: There's a small .toc file and a big one w/o extension. |
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| 11:18.34 | vlt | kunwon1: Burning the CD using k3b (wodim) works fine. |
| 11:18.39 | stdisease | just CDDA data |
| 11:18.43 | amphi | jorge_: what does file(1) think your fs file is? |
| 11:18.45 | stdisease | you can use wodim -audio |
| 11:19.30 | vlt | stdisease: "wodim -audio" does what? |
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| 11:20.17 | stdisease | vlt, what k3b did to burn your audio cd |
| 11:20.19 | kunwon1 | vlt, bin2iso /path/to/image.toc -c /path/to/bigfile |
| 11:20.23 | kunwon1 | vlt, then mount the iso |
| 11:20.55 | vlt | kunwon1: It's not an ISO9660 CD, but Audio. |
| 11:21.11 | EugenMayer | how to get out a filesystem-tpye of an raid? I just booted a resuce system and cant mount md0, while the raid is active and working, because mount: /dev/md0: can't read superblock |
| 11:21.28 | jorge_ | amphi |
| 11:21.36 | amphi | jorge_: |
| 11:21.37 | jorge_ | I have just discovered the problem |
| 11:21.41 | kunwon1 | vlt, cdemu? |
| 11:21.49 | jorge_ | ext3 doesn't support uid |
| 11:22.01 | vlt | I _could_ burn the image using wodim or k3b and then read from the real cdrom drive. But I want to know how to skip this step. |
| 11:22.03 | jorge_ | I don't know how to solve my problem |
| 11:22.06 | vlt | kunwon1: I'll have a look. |
| 11:22.17 | amphi | jorge_: no; that's for fat32/ntfs I believe |
| 11:22.51 | kunwon1 | vlt, I didn't realize that audio and iso were fundamentally different.. cdemu seems to do what you want though |
| 11:23.05 | jorge_ | I want to mount a virtual partition but only for one user |
| 11:23.19 | jorge_ | I have the mount point with that permissions |
| 11:23.30 | jorge_ | but next mounting appear as root |
| 11:23.39 | jorge_ | the folder permissions |
| 11:23.51 | vlt | kunwon1: Hmmm, can't find cdemu. What's the name of the pkg? |
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| 11:28.32 | jorge_ | amphi, do you know how to solve that? |
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| 11:33.07 | cads__ | is dpkg available for download in any form? |
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| 11:33.32 | cads__ | his knowledge could be helpful offline |
| 11:33.47 | cads__ | dpkg is that not so? |
| 11:33.48 | dpkg | cads__: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
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| 11:33.50 | apt_get | Hi |
| 11:33.52 | apt_get | Can i get the cpu temp information directly by /sys or /proc? |
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| 11:35.05 | et | have you looked in /proc/acpi? |
| 11:37.07 | apt_get | look many files inside |
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| 11:41.30 | saam | hello |
| 11:42.05 | saam | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:42.16 | saam | the hacked delete all data in my server |
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| 11:46.04 | apt_get | et: look many files inside |
| 11:46.36 | ilf | i have 1.5G ram, as bios and grub are saying. $ free and /proc/meminfo are telling me i have only 885M. i have only 64M shared for graphics in bios. where's my ram? |
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| 11:48.31 | ilf | btw, that's the same value when having 1G in the box and having 1.5G |
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| 11:51.34 | dustybin | how can one restart logrotate? |
| 11:51.46 | dustybin | so it effects all logs |
| 11:52.56 | ilf | dustybin: logrotate is not a deamon that could be restarted |
| 11:53.01 | ilf | just execute the bin |
| 11:53.07 | ilf | maybe with -f |
| 11:53.14 | bubble | can i get some help please? http://rafb.net/p/ydXV3b42.html |
| 11:53.14 | ilf | $ man logrotate :) |
| 11:53.43 | dustybin | ilf: the man pages say 'speak to the guys in #debian / freenode' |
| 11:53.54 | ilf | bubble: y ? :) |
| 11:54.09 | bubble | ilf, because i need help? :) |
| 11:54.16 | Sling | dustybin : i doubt that |
| 11:54.21 | ilf | dustybin: mine doesn't |
| 11:54.25 | ilf | bubble: press 'y' |
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| 11:55.13 | bubble | ty ilf <3 |
| 11:55.25 | bubble | Searching for splash image ... none found, skipping ... |
| 11:55.25 | bubble | Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18-4-686 |
| 11:55.25 | bubble | Updating /boot/grub/menu.lst ... done |
| 11:55.29 | bubble | am i all set? |
| 11:55.36 | Aragon | bubble: yes |
| 11:55.36 | ilf | reboot and see :) |
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| 11:57.42 | bubble | kk, ty :D |
| 11:57.49 | bubble | i brb then i reboot :D |
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| 12:05.37 | saam | how to use ext3undel?? |
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| 12:06.57 | SlayerXP | saam: is google illegal where you live? |
| 12:07.06 | d-b | !google |
| 12:07.06 | dpkg | [google] a search engine owned by Google Inc. whose mission statement is to "organize the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful." The largest search engine on the web, Google receives over 200 million queries each day through its various services. It's website can be found at http://www.google.com |
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| 12:24.05 | hugh__ | am i able to speak here without the so called registration? |
| 12:24.28 | SPF | yes you are |
| 12:24.51 | hugh__ | ;) |
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| 12:35.23 | Arafangion | Why do I get alot of errors when playing DVD's? |
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| 12:35.39 | Arafangion | Almost randomly, I get "An error occured - the source seems encrypted, and can't be read.". |
| 12:36.03 | Arafangion | On some disks, this is at the menu screen, after showing copyright, on others, it's mid-way during a movie! |
| 12:36.28 | Arafangion | Using totem. |
| 12:37.45 | Arafangion | If I continue playing the movie, it continues from the beginning. |
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| 12:38.08 | Arafangion | (Which is exceptionally frustrating) |
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| 12:46.27 | Ben_Cs | hello |
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| 12:48.02 | Ben_Cs | Does anybody know if the fusemb/libsmbclient bug was fixed? Where to download the patch? (do fixes necessarily come through repository updates?) |
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| 12:51.27 | Ben_Cs | i guess not. |
| 12:51.41 | Ben_Cs | Nobody has a windows pc connected by network? |
| 12:52.22 | OpenTokix | Ben_Cs: god heavens no |
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| 12:53.14 | Ben_Cs | OpenTokix: well i have a windows pc my dad works on. So... and it's not like i didn't try to convince him to move to debian |
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| 12:53.25 | Ben_Cs | or ubuntu for that matter |
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| 12:53.35 | abrotman | Ben_Cs: check the BTS |
| 12:53.40 | OpenTokix | Ben_Cs: Would it make a difference for him? |
| 12:53.55 | Ben_Cs | OpenTokix: With Office docs yes |
| 12:54.04 | Ben_Cs | abrotman: the what? |
| 12:54.17 | abrotman | Ben_Cs: are you using Debian or Ubuntu that shows the bug? |
| 12:54.32 | vlt | Arafangion: Maybe because the source actually _is_ encrypted, and can't be read ... |
| 12:55.18 | Arafangion | vlt: Why would I be able to play the vast majority of the source, then? |
| 12:55.21 | ramanK | when is the date of next debian release ? |
| 12:55.26 | abrotman | there is no date |
| 12:55.33 | abrotman | !tell ramanK about wwlr |
| 12:55.51 | Ben_Cs | abrotman: i use xubuntu, but the bug is reported as debian bug: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=497572 the thing is that the last bug report message says the report was redirected but doesn't say where to. so i can't follow if there were updates |
| 12:56.00 | abrotman | Ben_Cs: that is the BTS |
| 12:56.11 | Ben_Cs | !tell Ben_Cs about wwlr |
| 12:56.16 | vlt | Arafangion: I don't know exactly. Maybe there are non-encrypted parts on the DVD? |
| 12:56.23 | abrotman | !tell Ben_Cs about selftell |
| 12:56.42 | Arafangion | vlt: So, all but the last 15 minutes are unencrypted? |
| 12:56.47 | abrotman | Ben_Cs: #debian cannot tell you if the bug is fixed in xubuntu, ask #xubuntu .. and the bottom of the bug does tell you where it's been reassigned |
| 12:57.07 | vlt | Arafangion: That is possible (technically). |
| 12:57.38 | vlt | Arafangion: Does this appear only on one DVD? |
| 12:57.50 | Arafangion | vlt: Why the <censored> would people do that? No, this has happened for several DVD's. |
| 12:58.20 | Arafangion | In two drives. I thought the problem was the drive (Ancient machine), so got a brand new drive, but exact same problem. |
| 12:58.28 | vlt | Arafangion: I could imagine to prevent you from enjoying the whole movie ... |
| 12:58.59 | abrotman | you only need to see the beginning and end! |
| 12:59.05 | Ben_Cs | abrotman: since it's a bug with a library that is inherited from Debian and hence a Debian issue i thought people in here will know more then people in #xubuntu who only pack the distro with debian packages |
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| 12:59.21 | Arafangion | vlt: I don't remember having such problems on my laptop, but I'm _frustrated_ because I don't know how to troubleshoot it. :( |
| 12:59.37 | Arafangion | abrotman: Indeed, the middle is where I end up doing most of my coding, but damn, I want to see the end! |
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| 12:59.48 | abrotman | Ben_Cs: that's not entirely true, there are ubuntu specific patches to many of their packages |
| 12:59.58 | abrotman | Arafangion: get a VCR! |
| 13:00.05 | Ben_Cs | abrotman: couldn't find where libsmbclient bugs are reported |
| 13:00.09 | vlt | Arafangion: Do you know if those DVDs have encrypted content at all? |
| 13:00.18 | abrotman | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=libsmbclient;dist=unstable |
| 13:00.24 | abrotman | !tell Ben_Cs about bts |
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| 13:00.33 | Arafangion | vlt: All I know is that I have played them without any issues on my laptop, so I should be able to play them here. |
| 13:00.43 | Arafangion | vlt: (I use Debian on the laptop as well, but I set it up too long ago) |
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| 13:01.30 | vlt | Arafangion: Do you know that you might have to decrypt some DVDs before beeing able to watch them? |
| 13:01.59 | Arafangion | vlt: I expect my player to do anything neccessary in order for me to view it. |
| 13:02.10 | Arafangion | vlt: If they're encrypted, then yeah, for sure, they'd have to be decrypted. |
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| 13:03.31 | vlt | Arafangion: Most of the players don't do decryption for you. They need an external LIBrary to for DVDs to DEcrypt the CSS content2. |
| 13:04.02 | Arafangion | vlt: I've installed dvdcss2, or whatever the heck it was called. |
| 13:04.39 | Arafangion | vlt: There is a /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3, but it doesn't contain any scripts. |
| 13:05.00 | d-b | Arafangion: its different... i pulled the file from ubuntu a while back |
| 13:05.06 | amphi | Arafangion: perhaps this player has more evil fw than the other |
| 13:05.10 | d-b | um... that script is missing for some reason. |
| 13:05.15 | d-b | vlc should still work tho |
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| 13:05.34 | amphi | Arafangion: drive, I mean |
| 13:05.34 | apt_get | Hi |
| 13:05.43 | apt_get | Whats autoritative mode in dhcpd3 for debian? |
| 13:07.58 | Arafangion | amphi: It's a brand new drive, from a reputable place. I am not expecting any issues with it. |
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| 13:08.17 | Arafangion | amphi: that said, I'm got identical issues from the previous drive I had, which was a different brand and over 5 years older. |
| 13:08.29 | amphi | Arafangion: the fw is rpc1 or rpc2? |
| 13:08.36 | Arafangion | amphi: How would I find out? |
| 13:09.12 | amphi | Arafangion: if it's recent, it's almost certainly rpc2, I would think |
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| 13:10.46 | amphi | Arafangion: drives fw seems to vary in evilness; I had one that worked fine with no region set, despite being rpc2, and I have another which as far as I can see does not work with the region left at 0 |
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| 13:11.14 | amphi | I refuse to set a region on principle ;) |
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| 13:12.08 | d-b | i still suggest trying vlc |
| 13:12.13 | Arafangion | amphi: It's not like I'm trying to be wierd, heck, all I'm doign is 1) Install debian, 2) install dvdcss2 and stuff, and 3) Expect to play the damn dvd, using a dvd and drive purchased in the same city (and both using region 4). |
| 13:12.35 | Arafangion | d-b: I think you've got a point there, perhaps the problem is the software player. |
| 13:12.55 | beardy | Arafangion: Use vlc to play dvds. No fuffing around with regions and shit either. |
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| 13:13.46 | Arafangion | Ok then. Putting that on the todo, hopefully get that done tomorrow, thanks. :) Feeling better now. |
| 13:14.26 | beardy | !marillat |
| 13:14.27 | dpkg | methinks dmm is Debian Multimedia, a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for patent-related reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat. For information on how to use this repository, see http://debian-multimedia.org/ or ask me about <debian-multimedia.etch> |
| 13:14.41 | beardy | Arafangion: ^^^ for decss and so on |
| 13:14.42 | Arafangion | beardy: I've already referred to that factoid. |
| 13:14.51 | beardy | That's good then. |
| 13:14.58 | Arafangion | Yeah, its' also why I'm annoyed. |
| 13:15.13 | amphi | beardy: depends on the drive fw |
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| 13:32.30 | HayDen | salut |
| 13:32.33 | HayDen | hello |
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| 13:32.50 | HayDen | I need your help |
| 13:32.58 | HayDen | some person speak french here ? |
| 13:32.58 | abrotman | we need your question! |
| 13:33.00 | abrotman | !fr |
| 13:33.01 | dpkg | methinks fr is Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr sur irc.oftc.net. French users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on irc.oftc.net. |
| 13:33.10 | mirco_ | Hi all, is someone in here who has experience with pam_mkhomedir.so?!? |
| 13:33.27 | HayDen | debian-fr no work |
| 13:33.33 | HayDen | I don't understand |
| 13:34.20 | saam | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:34.30 | saam | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:34.32 | HayDen | with debian |
| 13:34.37 | HayDen | sudo su |
| 13:34.40 | HayDen | don't work |
| 13:35.05 | HayDen | which command |
| 13:35.09 | HayDen | I most use |
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| 13:35.24 | saam | is there other program can help me to recover all sites backup (/backup/cpbackup/daily/*.tar.gz) all files are deleted by hackers how to recover it ? |
| 13:35.25 | amphi | !tell HayDen -about enter |
| 13:35.41 | abrotman | HayDen: did you install/configure sudo ? |
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| 13:35.46 | abrotman | has dejavu |
| 13:35.52 | fengor_ | !doesnot work |
| 13:36.00 | abrotman | !tell fengor_ about doesn't work |
| 13:36.03 | abrotman | hides |
| 13:36.19 | fengor_ | !tell HayDen about doesn't work |
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| 13:36.23 | fengor_ | thanks abrotman ;) |
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| 13:37.25 | HayDen | yes |
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| 13:37.30 | HayDen | cannot use the channel |
| 13:37.41 | abrotman | HayDen: did you install/configure sudo ? |
| 13:37.42 | HayDen | when I try acces to debian-fr |
| 13:37.49 | abrotman | HayDen: on irc.oftc.net |
| 13:38.02 | HayDen | ok |
| 13:38.03 | HayDen | thanks |
| 13:38.04 | abrotman | HayDen: this is freenode .. the french channel is on irc.oftc.net |
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| 13:38.38 | HayDen | how I can join irc.oftc.net ? |
| 13:38.53 | EugenMayer | is there a way to check wheather a "cp" process is still doing anything? i have some doubts its still active |
| 13:39.11 | joltcan | EugenMayer: ps aux |grep cp |
| 13:39.11 | koollman | EugenMayer: strace -p <pid of your process> |
| 13:39.52 | EugenMayer | how should the process be named with ps -aux koollman? |
| 13:40.03 | amphi | HayDen: /connect irc.oftc.net |
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| 13:40.20 | HayDen | thanks :) |
| 13:40.30 | joltcan | koollman: you could use pidof cp, but ps seems a bit faster |
| 13:40.35 | trifler | EugenMayer: ps aux | grep proc-name ? |
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| 13:40.51 | abrotman | EugenMayer: check uh .. file size? |
| 13:40.55 | Catshit__ | is it possible for rsync to make a list of the files which need to me transfered and then put them in a third directory? |
| 13:41.02 | K_Sakura | I've got another bloody annoying problem, it seems that aumix isn't working (its giving me "aumix: error opening mixer: Success"). |
| 13:41.33 | EugenMayer | abrotman: not practical if the size is > 250Gb and filescount is likly about 1-2 million |
| 13:41.50 | joltcan | Catshit__: you could use -n and see which ones are supposted to be copied and put it in a file for later processing |
| 13:42.07 | abrotman | EugenMayer: you're copying a single 250GB file? |
| 13:42.22 | joltcan | Catshit__: But I can honestly say I didn't understand what you are trying to do |
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| 13:42.26 | EugenMayer | abrotman: the sum is 250GB. arround 1-2 million files |
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| 13:43.16 | dos000 | hi all ... |
| 13:43.26 | abrotman | EugenMayer: can't you tell if it's creating new files? |
| 13:43.35 | Catshit__ | Joltcan i need to make a backup but the backup location is located 50km south of here and the internet connection is too slow to transfer. I wan to transfer the files whihc need to be update on a HDD and then drive to the backup and transfer everthing to the backup PC |
| 13:43.38 | HayDen | connect irc.oftc.net don't work |
| 13:43.39 | EugenMayer | abrotman: its not on dir. |
| 13:43.41 | HayDen | I use Mirc |
| 13:43.45 | K_Sakura | Previously it was giving me errors about either the presence of alsa settings, and the saved settings weren't findable. |
| 13:44.07 | dos000 | i have a debian etch running inside vmware ... whoever installed this used some german keyb layout. |
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| 13:44.29 | abrotman | HayDen: /server irc.oftc.net |
| 13:44.49 | dos000 | is there a different way than the gnome way of changing the keyboard layout ? |
| 13:44.58 | abrotman | !tell dos000 about keymap |
| 13:45.02 | dos000 | i need to reset the keyboard layout for all users |
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| 13:47.37 | dos000 | abrotman: something is not fine here .. the up key was mapped to a screenshot shortcut ! so the i cant select anything in the menu presented by console-data ! |
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| 13:48.56 | joltcan | Catshit__: use -av --dry-run and redirect to a file which you can then process |
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| 13:49.14 | dos000 | even if i cahnge my settings in gnome it still does not recognize my left,right,up keys |
| 13:49.33 | jenipapo | Hi all |
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| 13:50.21 | abrotman | dos000: you mean at the console ? |
| 13:50.34 | jenipapo | I am unable to make sound work on a lenny. I installed linux-base-sound and audacity. In audacity, i don't see any sound driver |
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| 13:50.38 | dos000 | abrotman: yes. .. the keyb is f* somehow |
| 13:50.43 | jenipapo | Somebody could help? |
| 13:50.50 | abrotman | because you chose the wrong keymap, or the kb is dying |
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| 13:51.31 | dos000 | abrotman: etch is running inside vmware ... my host is ubuntu and is running fine with the keyb |
| 13:51.51 | abrotman | did you choose the same keymap in both? |
| 13:51.56 | Catshit__ | Joltcan yeah okay i have that but in the file I need to automatic put cp -v and then as target directory the same name as source but with HDD1 before (for example |
| 13:52.13 | Baum- | i need to configure a java keystore in openxchange for tls imap and smtp. anyone? i cant find a piece of documentation for it |
| 13:52.21 | dos000 | abrotman: i cant change the keymap on the console at all |
| 13:52.39 | Baum- | and the guys in the openxchnage channel dont it either |
| 13:52.39 | dos000 | abrotman: one sec .. lemme verify the diffrences |
| 13:53.13 | stoned | good freakin morning people |
| 13:53.17 | stoned | happy friday |
| 13:53.27 | abrotman | dos000: ISTR that you can copy the correct kmap to /etc/console/boottime.kmap.gz |
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| 13:53.42 | abrotman | Baum-: #java ? |
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| 13:54.21 | dos000 | abrotman: lemme see if i can ssh into the machine |
| 13:55.12 | dos000 | abrotman: btw on the ubuntu host my keymap is usa ... in the debian guest i can only select us-english. could be a debina-ubuntu difference |
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| 13:55.41 | abrotman | dos000: you mean "qwerty" ? |
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| 13:56.31 | dos000 | under gnome there is system/preferences/keyboard |
| 13:57.00 | dos000 | system/preferences/keyboad/layout .. |
| 13:57.16 | Baum- | abrotman yes. i created a keystore with the keytool command and added the ca certs |
| 13:57.19 | [agatha] | mut234, |
| 13:57.21 | [agatha] | ui |
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| 13:57.36 | Baum- | abrotman now i need to configure it in openxchange |
| 13:57.50 | abrotman | Baum-: i don't personally know .. i was suggesting to ask #java on how to create it .. and i know nothing about openxchange |
| 13:57.59 | abrotman | except what it is and what it does |
| 13:58.10 | Baum- | i created it already and the guys in the channel dont know. |
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| 13:58.58 | abrotman | Baum-: i'd imagine they have a mailing list |
| 13:59.37 | Baum- | yea sure i was just asking .. |
| 13:59.41 | mirco_ | I need some help getting pam_mkhomedir to work |
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| 14:01.47 | helo | thunderbird is not available in lenny? |
| 14:01.56 | oz_ | hello, can anyone help me with something related to mapserver? |
| 14:02.31 | abrotman | helo: icedove |
| 14:02.59 | helo | ahh, i was trying iceape and was getting mozilla... makes sense i suppose... |
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| 14:03.43 | abrotman | !icelizard |
| 14:03.44 | dpkg | Icelizard is the collection of applications that replace popular Mozilla applications, currently listed as IceWeasel(Firefox), IceDove(Thunderbird), IceApe(SeaMonkey), IceOwl(Sunbird). |
| 14:04.15 | Orion_X11 | I have tried to get internet access for my notebook through a desktop. I have set up ip addresses on both and I can ping both in both ways. But, I still cannot access the net in the notebook |
| 14:04.26 | Orion_X11 | What should I do? |
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| 14:05.07 | abrotman | the desktop is linux or windows? |
| 14:05.12 | petemc | Orion_X11: what have you setup to do the masquerading? |
| 14:05.14 | luckylittle | Hello, how can I replace ( with \( and also ) with \) |
| 14:05.19 | luckylittle | ^in the file |
| 14:05.23 | abrotman | sed |
| 14:05.47 | Orion_X11 | abrotman: pc and desktop > debian |
| 14:05.54 | luckylittle | I tried sed 's/(/\(/g' old > new and it didnt work |
| 14:05.56 | abrotman | !tell Orion_X11 about ipmasq |
| 14:06.02 | abrotman | luckylittle: there is #sed |
| 14:06.16 | luckylittle | #sed? |
| 14:06.42 | abrotman | a different channel |
| 14:06.59 | dos000 | abrotman: any idea which files the debian gnome desktop/preferences/keyboard/layout changes ? |
| 14:07.03 | acemi | \\ for \ and \( for ( |
| 14:07.46 | abrotman | luckylittle: do not msg me |
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| 14:08.01 | dos000 | i am able to ssh into the machine and run dpkg-reconfigure console-data .. but i still have the same keyb problems |
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| 14:08.30 | fengor_ | s$($/($g |
| 14:08.43 | fengor_ | uhm i meant \( |
| 14:08.45 | stew | luckylittle: sed 's/(/\\(/g;s/)/\\)/g' |
| 14:09.26 | luckylittle | lemme try stew |
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| 14:10.29 | luckylittle | wonderful stew, it works |
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| 14:10.58 | Orion_X11 | abrotman: petemc : I have installed ipmasq with synaptic and what do I do now? |
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| 14:11.53 | Shadur | Okay, I've got a brand new server to install a brand new lenny dist on. It's a 64-bit dual-core system. How enterprise-ready is debian-64bit? |
| 14:12.03 | acemi | Orion_X11: what is the gateway in notebook? |
| 14:12.14 | Shadur | And how much of a performance boost would I see compared to the standard x86 install? |
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| 14:14.11 | korbi111 | !help |
| 14:14.11 | dos000 | ok .. i loged the user out .. did a rm /home/user/* .. logged the user back in and the gnome preferences for his keyb is still there !!!! |
| 14:14.25 | Orion_X11 | acemi: desktop > ip 192.168.0.1 = notebook gatewau |
| 14:14.26 | dos000 | rm -rf ! |
| 14:14.31 | Orion_X11 | acemi: desktop > ip 192.168.0.1 = notebook gateway |
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| 14:15.41 | abrotman | dos000: that's not funny, don't do that |
| 14:16.21 | dos000 | abrotman: you mean the rm -rf /home/user/* ?? its a vmware machine i dont have data there |
| 14:16.39 | abrotman | dos000: i thought you were doing it as a "joke" for someone else |
| 14:16.46 | abrotman | dos000: why don't you create a new user and see if it happens |
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| 14:17.11 | neoice | ou can do the rm -rf / roulette |
| 14:17.15 | dos000 | abrotman: no .. it was actually for me ... i am just puzzled where gnome keeps the user preferences |
| 14:17.24 | abrotman | neoice: stop it |
| 14:17.29 | abrotman | dos000: in the gconf stuff |
| 14:17.50 | dos000 | abrotman: under the user home tright ? |
| 14:17.53 | abrotman | yes |
| 14:18.00 | abrotman | which is why i said to try creating a new user |
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| 14:18.44 | dos000 | maybe there is a (Stupid) scripts that sets the gnomedefaults for all new users |
| 14:18.55 | codestr0m | is there a proper place to ask about extending the deb metadata provided in a package (#deb or?) |
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| 14:19.09 | dos000 | that is very likely |
| 14:19.25 | dos000 | question is where is it ! |
| 14:20.00 | EugenMayer | if i have a raid 1, and 1/2 drives are active, could it be that i can set the last drive faulty? |
| 14:20.48 | dos000 | ok .. thnaks guys ... gotta drop this here |
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| 14:21.24 | liable | hmm, he changed nicks. |
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| 14:21.49 | liable | i remember that domain from way back |
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| 14:27.16 | mepisr0x | anyone know of a good program for linux to encode my backed up divx mpg back to a DVD? ... my original is scratched and annoying me |
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| 14:34.20 | ilaiho | the wine directx bug is maybe ATI bug. |
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| 14:35.36 | ghatak | does anyone know of a way to duplicate traffic on a box e-g. My box has three interfaces, a lan facing, an internet facing and an interface free. I want to see all traffic passing through the box on third interface as a copy. Is it possible ? |
| 14:35.37 | ilaiho | has anyone tested Lenny's WINE DirectX with Intel GPU? |
| 14:36.00 | abrotman | tested in what way? |
| 14:36.14 | abrotman | ghatak: duplicate or monitor? |
| 14:36.20 | abrotman | ghatak: oh .. |
| 14:36.23 | abrotman | !info tcpreplay etch |
| 14:36.32 | abrotman | maybe ... |
| 14:36.42 | abrotman | ghatak: but i'd guess iptables might have a way to do that, ask #iptables |
| 14:36.52 | dpkg | tcpreplay: (Tool to replay saved tcpdump files at arbitrary speeds), section net, is optional. Version: 2.99+3.0.beta11-3 (etch), Packaged size: 689 kB, Installed size: 1176 kB |
| 14:38.55 | ilaiho | abrotman: by trying to play a DirectX game with WINE under Lenny on a machine with Intel graphics |
| 14:39.08 | abrotman | i have |
| 14:39.16 | abrotman | thinks TA is directx |
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| 14:39.29 | ilaiho | abrotman: does it work? |
| 14:39.50 | abrotman | last i tried yes .. and Caesar worked also IIRC .. though i've not played in many months |
| 14:40.01 | abrotman | caesarii .. whichever |
| 14:40.13 | ilaiho | I try to play Orbiter space sim. |
| 14:40.19 | ilaiho | It uses Directx 7. |
| 14:40.47 | ilaiho | It is being ported to OpenGL. |
| 14:40.58 | abrotman | and? |
| 14:41.00 | ghatak | thanks abrotman |
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| 14:42.22 | joltcan | ghatak: ROUTE and --tee seems to be in the vicinity of what you want to do |
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| 14:43.10 | ghatak | ghatak: hmmm right, that needs a pom right ? |
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| 14:43.30 | ghatak | and as far as I know it is not supported on modern kernels |
| 14:44.00 | ilaiho | abrotman: And the DirectX version crashes Lenny's wine. |
| 14:44.29 | abrotman | ilaiho: have you tried other directx games ? |
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| 14:44.36 | ilaiho | abrotman: Not yet. |
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| 14:44.52 | jonathon | i have a question you might know how to answer... say someone is ssh'd into a box... and you would like to observe that activity real time is this possible? |
| 14:46.03 | petemc | jonathon: if they use screen you could do it that way, otherwise you're limited to what you can see with ps, or using something basic like 'watch w' |
| 14:46.17 | petemc | theres ttysnoop as well, not used it myself.. |
| 14:47.18 | jonathon | petemc, thank you. |
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| 14:47.30 | EugenMayer | how to clear a superblock of an older raid-device? |
| 14:47.43 | EugenMayer | (so mdadm does not think its an raid device anymore ) |
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| 14:50.07 | joltcan | EugenMayer: mdadm --zero-superblock /dev/hda1 |
| 14:50.15 | EugenMayer | thank you |
| 14:50.20 | joltcan | EugenMayer: Maybe not just that device :) |
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| 14:52.06 | jonathon | petemc, i installed screen on the deb box i am sshed into and now trying to set it up the man, is a little t rough for me to try to follow. |
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| 15:00.05 | petemc | jonathon: they need to be using screen, then you can use screen -x to connect to their session |
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| 15:00.14 | EugenMayer | if i use a raid1 for my root partition ( boot is located there ) and i want to use grub to boot it, what steps are to be taken? |
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| 15:01.17 | jonathon | petemc, ah like vnc kinda? |
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| 15:05.22 | EugenMayer | where has the etc/mkinitrd/mkinitrd.conf gone ? |
| 15:05.52 | petemc | mkinitramfs |
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| 15:07.14 | jonathon | petemc, how do i run a certain program? through ssh |
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| 15:07.57 | petemc | jonathon: hmm? |
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| 15:08.04 | petemc | type the programmes name |
| 15:08.13 | petemc | assuming its in your path |
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| 15:09.08 | jonathon | its actually a game and it ins in dir of /usr/games |
| 15:09.23 | petemc | does it work in console ? |
| 15:09.29 | jonathon | i know i wont beable to play it but i just want to get it running |
| 15:09.35 | SidGBF | how do I install a new locale? |
| 15:09.44 | petemc | !locales |
| 15:09.44 | dpkg | Use `dpkg-reconfigure locales' to get it up and running. This generates locale definitions and also edits /etc/environment (in Sarge) or /etc/default/locale (etch or newer) which sets the $LANG environment variable at login time. |
| 15:11.26 | sphenxes01 | I don't have java 1.4? what is the best solution to downloaded and install it on etch? |
| 15:11.35 | abrotman | !tell sphenxes01 about install java |
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| 15:12.12 | sphenxes01 | !Java |
| 15:12.13 | dpkg | from memory, java is a cross-platform C++-like OO language. Sun partially released its Java implementation under the GPL on 2006-11-13. There are other implementations available in Debian such as 'free-java-sdk' for use with applications like Eclipse. The Sun JRE/JDK is in non-free. Also, ask about <install java>. <java alternatives> |
| 15:12.55 | jpinx | I've debootstrapped sarge onto a 2nd hdd and chrooted into it and installed and config'd locales, but installing the kernel chokes when looking for a root device. Anyone able to point me in the right direction? |
| 15:13.33 | abrotman | sphenxes01: /msg dpkg foo |
| 15:13.59 | simonrvn | ... |
| 15:14.01 | Rideh | name of the desktop package in etch? |
| 15:14.42 | abrotman | for which desktop ? |
| 15:15.03 | themill | dpkg: tell sphenxes01 about multiple ask |
| 15:15.36 | Rideh | i'm familar with portage, is there a folder i can go through to see avail packages for a specific area with apt? |
| 15:15.45 | Rideh | abrotman: gnome / kde doesnt matter |
| 15:15.59 | themill | dpkg: tell Rideh about install kde |
| 15:16.40 | Rideh | themill: ty iddnt realize there was a dpkg bot :P |
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| 15:17.42 | themill | Rideh: it's not a bot, it's a bunch of banana-fed ubuntu users that we've put into a trance and have been convinced to regurgitate factoids on cue. AI isn't required any more. |
| 15:17.54 | Rideh | hahaha |
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| 15:18.17 | IrishDavid | hey, does anyone know of a good lightweight animated gif viewing program? |
| 15:18.31 | Maliuta | xzgv |
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| 15:19.43 | IrishDavid | Maliuta, doesnt seem to do animated gif? |
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| 15:20.37 | Jabka | Will lenny have kde3 or kde4 in the end (when it become stable ) |
| 15:20.46 | abrotman | Rideh: /msg dpkg install gnome |
| 15:20.48 | themill | dpkg: tell Jabka about kde4 |
| 15:20.54 | abrotman | themill: you can't just force him on kde!!! |
| 15:21.01 | themill | abrotman: yes I can |
| 15:21.02 | sphenxes01 | i have installed a new ftp to my source.list. how i can update it? |
| 15:21.08 | sphenxes01 | in dpk |
| 15:21.09 | sphenxes01 | g |
| 15:21.09 | abrotman | aptitude update |
| 15:21.11 | Rideh | abrotman: yea i got it thru the wiki |
| 15:21.12 | sphenxes01 | thanks |
| 15:22.48 | saam | how to recovering file with ext3grep ?? |
| 15:22.51 | Jabka | my question isn't how to install kde4 or that it is new my question is lenny in state to accept and change packages |
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| 15:23.39 | abrotman | Jabka: that doesn't make sense |
| 15:24.50 | themill | Jabka: read the factoid from dpkg again. |
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| 15:25.33 | stew | Jabka: if the question is whether or not kde4 will end up in lenny, the answer is no, lenny will release with kde 3.5.9 |
| 15:25.43 | themill | (which is what dpkg said) |
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| 15:29.28 | endeavormac | is there a small, simple smtp server i can easily set up and configure to accept connections only from localhost? I'd like to set up a small mail server I can use with php's mail() function to enable email on in a php forums system, but don't want to open myself up as a spam relay to the world. |
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| 15:32.04 | endeavormac | is postfix always the answer? |
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| 15:32.31 | petemc | postfix or exim |
| 15:32.43 | themill | nullmailer or ssmtp would do |
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| 15:35.12 | endeavormac | ok thanks themill, i'll look those two up |
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| 15:38.39 | Peanut | Hi all - I run a bunch of headless servers on Etch, and they're all rather low on entropy, which is causing trouble. Does anyone here have experience with that or suggestions? I don't think these machines have a hw_rng, rng_tools certainly doesn't find one. |
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| 15:41.23 | tuxcrafter | does somebody know how to use this data to get the filesystem type like ext2 ext3 fat ntfs /sys/block/sdb/sdb1/stat |
| 15:41.32 | EugenMayer | how to build a ramdisk 8 initrd when i booted from a rescue-system? |
| 15:41.44 | tuxcrafter | i need to write some nice udev rules depending on the block devices filetype |
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| 15:43.17 | stew | tuxcrafter: "file -s /dev/sdb1" ? or do you need to extract it from /sys |
| 15:43.38 | stew | EugenMayer: chroot to the install then run "dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$version" |
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| 15:44.00 | stew | EugenMayer: or use update-initramfs |
| 15:44.13 | EugenMayer | stew: i cant chroot somehow |
| 15:44.17 | EugenMayer | one second |
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| 15:44.46 | tuxcrafter | stew: it would be nice to be able to use the /sys |
| 15:45.01 | tuxcrafter | so i dont have to call an external script from the udev rules |
| 15:45.52 | EugenMayer | stew: aktually running mkinitrd -r /dev/md1 -o .... |
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| 15:46.12 | EugenMayer | stew: would that build a initrd for the current booted kernel, so the one the rescue system uses? |
| 15:46.19 | stew | EugenMayer: you should not use mkinitrd with modern kernels, us mkinitramfs from initramfs-tools |
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| 15:46.52 | EugenMayer | stew: ok, maybe that howto is a bit older ( iam with the current debain etch stable kernel ) |
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| 15:46.54 | stew | EugenMayer: mkinitrd is for kernels older than 2.6.13 |
| 15:47.50 | EugenMayer | stew: but generally, is mkinitramfs using the current booted kernel ? |
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| 15:48.27 | stew | EugenMayer: generally no |
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| 15:48.51 | EugenMayer | stew: so booting a debian rescue system and then running my command should even work without chroot, or? |
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| 15:49.03 | stew | EugenMayer: not your command, no |
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| 15:49.47 | EugenMayer | stew: mkinitramfs -r /dev/md1 /o initrd.img-2.6.18-6-amd64 |
| 15:50.09 | EugenMayer | \o / -o |
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| 15:50.35 | stew | EugenMayer: you'd need to also somehow point it at the kernel it should be buildling an initrd for |
| 15:50.44 | stew | EugenMayer: that's going to use the current running kernel, afaik |
| 15:51.03 | EugenMayer | root@rescue / # chroot /mnt/ |
| 15:51.03 | EugenMayer | chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': Exec format error |
| 15:51.17 | EugenMayer | any ideas why i cant chroot ? |
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| 15:51.24 | stew | EugenMayer: what does "file /mnt/bin/bash" return? |
| 15:51.47 | EugenMayer | root@rescue / # /mnt/bin/bash -bash: /mnt/bin/bash: cannot execute binary file |
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| 15:51.57 | svref | is backports.org part of debian, or a seperate shady project where I need to decide whether to trust them? |
| 15:52.00 | EugenMayer | hmm, why it cant exectue |
| 15:52.15 | _vvd | hey, how can i reinstall a package including its files in /etc and /etc/rc?.d ? |
| 15:52.41 | tuxcrafter | this is trick anybody knows how to detect the filesystem of a block device with udev |
| 15:52.53 | EugenMayer | stew: hmm thats odd. |
| 15:52.53 | stew | svref: its not official part of debian, but it is run by debian developers and the packages are uploaded by debian developers, so it is more trustworthy than other third party repositories |
| 15:53.06 | svref | stew: thx |
| 15:53.39 | stew | _vvd: "/msg dpkg confmiss" you might want --force-confnew instead of --force-confmiss, look them both up to see what they do |
| 15:53.55 | EugenMayer | stew: could that happen when i boot a 32 bit system and chroot to 64bit ? |
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| 15:54.45 | stew | tuxcrafter: lshal or hal-device or hal-device-manager would tell you what udev reports for a volume |
| 15:54.51 | stew | EugenMayer: yes |
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| 15:56.25 | superlinux | when i am configureing a netfilter application i get "checking _doprnt...no" what pkg is the _doprnt? |
| 15:56.46 | superlinux | when i am configureing a netfilter application i get "checking _doprnt...no" what pkg / where is the _doprnt? |
| 15:57.44 | EugenMayer | stew: ok now i could chroot |
| 15:57.51 | EugenMayer | stew: what are the easiest steps now |
| 15:58.10 | _vvd | ty stew^ |
| 15:58.32 | stew | EugenMayer: update-initramfs or dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$version |
| 16:00.49 | tuxcrafter | stew: thanks for the information the volume.fstype of lshal show the filesystem type but how can i get this information with udev attributes? |
| 16:01.34 | stew | tuxcrafter: what do you mean by "with udev attribiutes? |
| 16:02.11 | EugenMayer | stew: it worked, great |
| 16:02.11 | EugenMayer | finally |
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| 16:03.37 | stew | tuxcrafter: perhaps you want "udevinfo info --query=all --name=/dev/sda1" ? |
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| 16:04.20 | fukazzz | hello all. I have a question - does anybody but me has a problem like: while swithcing between users (xorg, gdm, gnome) the session of previous user is completely killed? |
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| 16:04.46 | fukazzz | I uses to have this problem at Ubuntu 8.04, it has gone at 8.10. Now I see it at Debian |
| 16:04.55 | fukazzz | so, may be it is a xorg/nvidia drivers bug? |
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| 16:07.22 | tuxcrafter | stew: i would like to do someting like this for diffrent fileystems but i need an match to use in a udev rule to get the filesystem type so it uses a vfat rule nfts ext2 or ext3 rule |
| 16:07.26 | tuxcrafter | http://pastebin.ca/1247942 |
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| 16:14.26 | stew | tuxcrafter: sounds like you want something like "udevinfo info --attribute-walk --name=sda1" |
| 16:14.48 | zugo | Hello everybody. I've got a networking problem. My network runs perfectly with DHCP (dhclient), but I want to set a static IP. So I did "ifconfig eth0 ip 192.168.2.80". It ran, and I successfully tried to ping my LAN. But if I try to ping the Internet, it does'nt work I get "connect: Network is unreachable". |
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| 16:16.13 | zugo | Any idea ? |
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| 16:16.42 | abrotman | you didn't set a route or netmask |
| 16:16.43 | stew | zugo: youd have to add a gateway with something like "route add default gw x.x.x.x" or "ip r a default via x.x.x.x" though normally one would instead configure this stuff in /etc/network/interfaces (man interfaces) |
| 16:17.09 | jpinx | I debootstrapped sarge onto a 2nd hdd but I can't get the kernel to install, It fails because there is no INSTALL_DEVICE. anyone know what I need to do? |
| 16:17.35 | abrotman | why would you install sarge? |
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| 16:17.38 | zugo | stew: Should I add "gateway 192.168.2.1" in my interfaces file ? |
| 16:17.42 | zugo | go look the man |
| 16:18.16 | stew | zugo: yes, you'd add that to interfaces after you add the static ip adresss / netmask |
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| 16:18.38 | jpinx | abrotman: I am trying to replicate a webserver I need to work on |
| 16:18.54 | zugo | stew: my static address is already in this file, and the netmask is good... |
| 16:19.03 | gothenburg | :-D |
| 16:19.40 | zugo | Anyway it works with "gateway 192.168.2.1" |
| 16:19.45 | zugo | Thanks stew :) |
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| 16:21.05 | jpinx | abrotman: I am setting up a sarge box here so that I can practice upgrading and not have such a risk to my live webserver |
| 16:21.33 | abrotman | jpinx: it still won't be exactly the same |
| 16:21.45 | stew | jpinx: what is the command that is failing? |
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| 16:22.38 | jpinx | stew: Setting up kernel-image-2.6.8-4-686 (2.6.8-17sarge1) ... - /usr/sbin/mkinitrd: Cannot determine root device - Failed to create initrd image. |
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| 16:23.33 | stew | jpinx: what command did you run? |
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| 16:24.16 | jpinx | stew: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.8-4-686 |
| 16:24.51 | stew | jpinx: are /dev and /proc populated in the chroot? |
| 16:25.17 | jpinx | stew: yes |
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| 16:26.36 | beniamino | is there any way to make apt postpone the prompt about replacing configuration files? i would like to see all those prompts at the end of the upgrade (or whatever process apt is doing) rather than supervising the whole process |
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| 16:29.27 | stew | jpinx: how about /sys ? |
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| 16:30.18 | stew | beniamino: i don't think that is possible |
| 16:30.32 | jpinx | stew: /sys is empty |
| 16:30.42 | jpinx | stew: how to populate it? |
| 16:31.01 | stew | jpinx: mount /sys |
| 16:31.09 | stew | jpinx: or bind mount it from outside the chroot |
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| 16:32.01 | jpinx | stew: now /sys is populated |
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| 16:34.41 | Dogfood | what does "error opening terminal: bterm" mean? |
| 16:35.44 | beniamino | stew: that's a pity, it would save a lot of time. thanks for the info |
| 16:35.57 | jpinx | stew: I still get an error when the kernel id looking for the install device |
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| 16:37.01 | stew | beniamino: the problem is that, for instance, you wouldn't want a service to restart BEFORE you updated its configuration, but after, so it doens't make sense to update all of the configuration AFTER you've run all the postinst scripts |
| 16:37.37 | stew | jpinx: then you might have to make the initrd by hand, then fix things once youve booted into the system |
| 16:38.18 | jpinx | stew: can I copy it from an existing system? |
| 16:38.55 | stew | jpinx: if it is an identical system (initrd is very much hardware dependent) |
| 16:39.13 | tuxcrafter | stew: "udevinfo info --attribute-walk --name=sda1" show exactly the info i was talking about but do you see hte stat attribute how can i use it to see if it is an ext3 device? |
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| 16:39.22 | jpinx | stew: it's the same laptop but a different hdd |
| 16:40.09 | stew | tuxcrafter: i don't know |
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| 16:40.50 | stew | tuxcrafter: could you run a script that determines what the filesystem is and do whatever is appropriate depending on what filesystem it discovers? |
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| 16:42.56 | tuxcrafter | stew: yea i can do that but dont like it... |
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| 16:43.06 | tuxcrafter | its not very clean |
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| 16:49.12 | ghatak | is there is a standard sid ISO from debian ? |
| 16:49.35 | mns_ | SID is not standard :) |
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| 16:50.31 | ghatak | thanks |
| 16:50.56 | Hideme | I'm running Sarge, but my sources.list was set to "stable", looks like aptitude is downloading etch packages now. Am I going to be have a hosed system once this completes? |
| 16:51.35 | jamon | Hideme: if you're using aptitude you should be good :) |
| 16:51.49 | Hideme | jamon *fewf* |
| 16:52.07 | mns_ | Hideme: for the most part, no. You might have problems where there are some applications or things that have changed ABI or such, other then that, no. |
| 16:52.43 | stew | Hideme: you'll have done one of the first steps in the process of upgrading to etch: "/msg dpkg sarge->etch" and read chapter 4 to see what the rest of the steps are |
| 16:52.46 | Hideme | Even though I've simply ran aptitude and hit "G", vs the proper aptitude -f --with-recommends dist-upgrade ? |
| 16:53.03 | stew | Hideme: you should not be running dist-upgrade |
| 16:53.25 | Hideme | stew ok, I haven't anyway. |
| 16:53.49 | stew | Hideme: btw, this is why it is not recommended to use "stable" in sources.list |
| 16:54.34 | mns_ | aptitude safe-upgrade should be sufficient for the most part. There will be some packages that do not get upgraded because you're missing some supporting packages, etc. which might not have existed in sarge. at that point you will want to do a dist-upgrade |
| 16:54.49 | Hideme | exactly... and I almost aways check source.list. But this is a machine I rarely use... assumed it was done |
| 16:54.58 | stew | mns_: no, aptitude safe-upgrade is not what he wants |
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| 16:55.25 | mns_ | stew: he doesn't ? |
| 16:55.33 | stew | mns_: safe-upgrade won't exist |
| 16:55.44 | stew | mns_: he should be following th release notes |
| 16:55.54 | mns_ | oh yeah .. that is a lenny thing. sorry forgot that bit. gotten so used to lenny. |
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| 16:56.43 | py_ | hello |
| 16:57.02 | jpinx | stew: tis is why I'm trying to create a sarge system locally - to practice upgrading to etch |
| 16:57.58 | py_ | as root, I add a cronjob using echo "foo" | crontab -, and it is properly installed. Will my command be ran as root or as some cron user? |
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| 16:58.26 | tuxcrafter | hmm it seems ext2 and ext3 do not support mounting the file system with a uid and gid? |
| 16:58.30 | tuxcrafter | i have a problem |
| 16:58.45 | tuxcrafter | i got an usb stick 8GB with ext3 fileystem |
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| 16:59.10 | tuxcrafter | all files are chmod 666 gid 1002 gid 1002 |
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| 16:59.22 | tuxcrafter | now i move to an other system with this stick and mount it |
| 16:59.31 | tuxcrafter | the permission stay exactly the same |
| 16:59.47 | tuxcrafter | but i am git 1001 uid 1001 on this system |
| 16:59.52 | tuxcrafter | and i am not root |
| 17:00.03 | tuxcrafter | i cant acces my files or |
| 17:00.10 | tuxcrafter | change the permissions |
| 17:00.26 | tuxcrafter | so i wanted an mount option that sets the gid uid for ext2 |
| 17:00.36 | tuxcrafter | and ext3 but i can find it... |
| 17:00.47 | stew | tuxcrafter: ext3 has no such option |
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| 17:02.13 | tuxcrafter | stew: yea i figgured that out, but the problem remains.. |
| 17:02.32 | stew | tuxcrafter: you'd have to chmod the files |
| 17:02.39 | stew | tuxcrafter: or chown them |
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| 17:02.48 | stew | tuxcrafter: on a system where you have root |
| 17:02.58 | tuxcrafter | exactly and ther is the problem ... |
| 17:02.59 | rdz | hi all. i accidently hit the 'enable kerberos' switch in the cups administration page and since then i cannot add any printers. how can i disable kerberos for cups again? |
| 17:03.10 | tuxcrafter | stew: is there no good way around that? |
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| 17:03.24 | stew | tuxcrafter: why do you need a way around that? |
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| 17:03.34 | ich | http://www.unsere-nackte-pyjamaparty.net/?id=5947352 |
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| 17:04.41 | tuxcrafter | stew: to chmod a usb disk as root to use it on an other system is kind of user unfriendly and you dont now the uid guid of the user that needs to acces the files |
| 17:04.56 | tuxcrafter | and setting the other permissions is no option |
| 17:05.05 | tuxcrafter | because then everybody can acces the files |
| 17:05.12 | stew | tuxcrafter: allowing a regular user to have a way around this would be a ssecurity disaster |
| 17:05.41 | tuxcrafter | stew: with vfat i do the same |
| 17:05.51 | tuxcrafter | uid=1003,gid=1003,dmask=0007,fmask=0117 |
| 17:05.55 | stew | tuxcrafter: so use vfat |
| 17:06.07 | tuxcrafter | vfat is not free software |
| 17:06.14 | stew | tuxcrafter: how so? |
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| 17:06.15 | tuxcrafter | and does not handle files bigger then 4 gb |
| 17:06.28 | stew | tuxcrafter: ask your system administrator to help you |
| 17:06.37 | tuxcrafter | stew: due i am the adminstrator |
| 17:06.43 | stew | tuxcrafter: then run chown |
| 17:06.45 | tuxcrafter | trying to get it usable for " |
| 17:06.49 | tuxcrafter | simple peopl;e |
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| 17:07.06 | tuxcrafter | :-p |
| 17:07.08 | stew | tuxcrafter: add the users that need to access these files to a group, and chmod the files g+r |
| 17:07.25 | tuxcrafter | that is not workable |
| 17:07.36 | stew | tuxcrafter: why? |
| 17:07.42 | tuxcrafter | you dont now the gid uid of the other sytem |
| 17:08.12 | stew | tuxcrafter: ask the system administrator of the other system |
| 17:08.13 | tuxcrafter | guid and uid are system dependent |
| 17:08.27 | stew | tuxcrafter: if you need them to not be system dependent, use something like nis |
| 17:08.28 | tuxcrafter | stew: that is not an option it is all remote controlled |
| 17:08.33 | stew | tuxcrafter: or nssldap |
| 17:08.51 | tuxcrafter | i hate to make user force vfat and ntfs for usb sticks... |
| 17:09.01 | stew | so don't |
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| 17:09.35 | tuxcrafter | how to explain this... |
| 17:10.11 | stew | tuxcrafter: sounds like you want to keep the UIDs and GIDs in sync for the multiple machines |
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| 17:11.03 | [cannibal] | a |
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| 17:11.46 | tuxcrafter | stew: i dont want to need to now the uid and gid of the other machines |
| 17:11.50 | tuxcrafter | that is not maintanable |
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| 17:12.28 | stew | tuxcrafter: ok |
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| 17:12.57 | tuxcrafter | stew: dont take it bad :-p i really appreciate your help! |
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| 17:17.48 | tuxcrafter | i think the perfect sollution would be that user could user the mount command on all filesystems that are in there group |
| 17:18.04 | tuxcrafter | that would also make it possible for user to mount iso files with mount |
| 17:18.24 | tuxcrafter | but all mounts need to be private and not accesable by other users |
| 17:18.43 | tuxcrafter | but that could be soleved by mouning everyging in the user home dir |
| 17:18.56 | tuxcrafter | and makingig not exexutable for others |
| 17:18.57 | sini | I upgraded xorg to the version in the experimental tree to play with the open driver -- how do i go about getting a list of packages from the experimental repository / how can i force a downgrade to testing or unstable? (install -t unstable metapackage reports already newest version) |
| 17:18.58 | zinx | perhaps you should look in to pmount and/or FUSE |
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| 17:19.49 | stew | sini: "apt-show-versions" should help you determine what is what. I'd recommend using the aptitude fronten to get all the packages at the versions you want all at once |
| 17:20.45 | stew | pmount won't help him |
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| 17:28.34 | tuxcrafter | i solve all these mount issues on single user systems by adding the mount command to the sudoers files |
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| 17:28.44 | tuxcrafter | but on a multiuser system this is not possbible |
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| 17:29.11 | [cannibal] | Preciso de Uma ajuda com resolucao de nomes no DHCP |
| 17:29.19 | tuxcrafter | i alreayd have a nice system in place with udev rules that set the device permissions depending on the usb bus where the user plugs in the device |
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| 17:29.48 | tuxcrafter | so the device permissions have correct user unicque group user and other permissions |
| 17:30.17 | tuxcrafter | i have been stuckling with this issue for months now |
| 17:30.34 | tuxcrafter | i thought i could fix the issue with udev rules that check the used filesystem |
| 17:31.07 | tuxcrafter | but i cant get that working without evil scripts that execute and parse outputs to see what the filesystem is |
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| 17:32.02 | stew | !br |
| 17:32.02 | dpkg | Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 17:32.07 | simonrvn | !pt |
| 17:32.08 | dpkg | Por favor use #debian-pt para ajuda em portugues ou #debian-br para ajuda em portugues do brasil. ( /join #debian-pt ) |
| 17:32.25 | simonrvn | you're right |
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| 17:41.13 | sini | I have multiple versions of the kernel and gcc installed as well, and I only want the latest... also grub has the wrong hardware device id, and rewrites the menu.lst every time it upgrades the kernel... where is that stored? :P |
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| 17:42.11 | sini | i'm trying to find something on it via google but ehhh |
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| 17:42.52 | Peanut | sini: the hardware device ID is stored in /boot/grub/device.map (if that's what you are looking for) |
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| 17:43.20 | themill | sini: look at the kopt meta comments in the /boot/grub/menu.lst file and read the comments around them very carefully. |
| 17:43.26 | Peanut | Once that is fixed, grub should no longer mistake one harddisk for the other. |
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| 17:44.26 | themill | sini: You can aptitude purge the kernels and gcc packages that you don't need any more. It is sometimes worthwhile keeping more than one working kernel, however. But that's up to you. |
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| 17:44.50 | sini | always got a livecd if it breaks :P |
| 17:45.02 | Peanut | There is also the 'howmany' option in grub that sets how many old kernels you want in the Grub menu |
| 17:45.03 | themill | sini: yep, sounds fine. |
| 17:45.27 | Peanut | Hi all - I run a bunch of headless servers on Etch, and they're all rather low on entropy, which is causing trouble. Does anyone here have experience with that or suggestions? I don't think these machines have a hw_rng, rng_tools certainly doesn't find one. |
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| 17:48.01 | sluckz | i dont have a great understanding of debian release cycles. i see lenny has been "frozen" features i assume, i need a desktop pc. is there any glaring reason not to use lenny for a desktop at this time? |
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| 17:51.26 | jhamlin | hey folks, I'm on etch and want to install the korganizer backport but that gives me lots of other packages that want to be installed. It seems in etch kde is 3.5.7 but lots of the components are 3.5.5. is there a proper way to upgrade most of the components to backported 3.5.7 version? |
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| 17:53.13 | Peanut | Is there a way to check on which of two disks grub has installed itself? I am installing servers with an old PATA and new SATA disk, and sometimes after install, it will never even load grub on powerup |
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| 17:54.54 | cahoot | Peanut: run strings on dd on the first 512 bytes? |
| 17:54.58 | stew | Peanut: "dd count=1 if=/dev/sda | strings" and see GRUB is one of the strings that comes out |
| 17:55.44 | Peanut | Thanks, stew |
| 17:55.55 | Peanut | Unfortunately the miniroot doesn't have a 'strings', but I get the idea. |
| 17:57.44 | Peanut | Nope, no grub on my SATA :-( |
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| 17:58.42 | JyZyXEL | whats wrong with the implementation in process priorities |
| 17:58.50 | JyZyXEL | it doesn't work at all |
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| 18:00.03 | Hideme | stew: Seem I've encountered an issue with this upgrade. it gets to a kernel package preconfig and fails. Any advice? |
| 18:00.31 | stew | Hideme: show us the actual command you typed and the actual output, use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 18:01.05 | Hideme | stew I didn't type anything.... it's runing through the downloaded packages from aptitude. |
| 18:01.14 | Hideme | got to the kernel part... Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 18:01.14 | Hideme | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:01.14 | Hideme | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:01.14 | Hideme | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:02.17 | Hideme | You are running a kernel (version 2.6.8-3-386) and attempting to remove the same version. Remove the running kernel image (not recommended) [No]? I said no, and it fails. |
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| 18:03.05 | stew | Hideme: yes, you certainly don't want to remove the running kernel |
| 18:03.12 | stew | Hideme: you are using the aptitude frontend? |
| 18:03.21 | stew | Hideme: are you following the release notes? |
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| 18:04.26 | Hideme | stew yes, not the command line. Remember, I'm the guy that didn't check the source list on an old machine before running aptitude. It's trying to go from sarge to etch. |
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| 18:06.00 | Hideme | dependency problems - leaving unconfigured and the exits back to the aptitude main screen. |
| 18:06.12 | stew | Hideme: are you following the upgrade procedure in the release notes? |
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| 18:06.54 | Hideme | stew No... becasue this wasn't meant to be an upgrade in the first place. |
| 18:07.15 | Hideme | The source.list was set to "stable". |
| 18:07.44 | Hideme | I can't turn back... and didn't catch it till it already started to config packages in aptitude. |
| 18:07.45 | stew | Hideme: what is your goal? to upgrade to etch? |
| 18:08.18 | Hideme | goal WAS to just update the machine. |
| 18:08.28 | stew | Hideme: what is your goal now? |
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| 18:08.43 | Hideme | But now it looks like I'm forced into an upgrade since it's downloaded and configed some packages from the etch tree already. |
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| 18:09.07 | Hideme | goal now is to recover... keep the machine without having to reinstall. |
| 18:09.24 | Hideme | That's fine if it's etch. |
| 18:09.24 | stew | i'd recommend upgrading fully to etch: /msg dpkg sarge->etch |
| 18:10.01 | Hideme | stew Is that even possible at this point? |
| 18:10.23 | stew | Hideme: it is |
| 18:10.28 | Hideme | as I said... aptitude has already installed/configed new etch packages. |
| 18:10.39 | stew | Hideme: yes, i know |
| 18:10.52 | Hideme | If I quit aptitude now, I'll have a half sarge, half etch system |
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| 18:11.25 | stew | Hideme: yes |
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| 18:13.47 | Hideme | So you're saying kill the aptitude install and start the suggested upgrade process? |
| 18:14.08 | stew | Hideme: yes |
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| 18:20.59 | flami | Hi, could it be that in the debian package of dovecot the managesieve patch is already included ? |
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| 18:29.02 | Hideme | stew ok... I've followed this directions yet still encounter the kernel issue. |
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| 18:29.18 | Hideme | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 18:29.21 | stew | Hideme: you followed the upgrade procedure? |
| 18:29.40 | stew | Hideme: what command gave you that error? |
| 18:30.13 | Hideme | I've noticed it within dist-upgrade when it gets to Removing kernel-image-2.6.8-3-386 |
| 18:30.13 | stew | Hideme: oh, you should be starting the procedure with your sources pointing to sarge, not stable |
| 18:30.22 | Hideme | Argh |
| 18:30.24 | stew | Hideme: it should not be trying to do that |
| 18:30.48 | Hideme | ok.. so change source from stable to sarge and follow steps? |
| 18:30.53 | stew | Hideme: oh wait |
| 18:31.00 | stew | Hideme: you are already up to the point of running dist-upgrade? |
| 18:31.41 | stew | Hideme: hmm, in that case, it shouldn't be trying to remove 2.6.8-3-386, since you marked it as not automatically installed |
| 18:31.56 | stew | Hideme: can you show me the output of "aptitude show kernel-image-2.6.8-3-386" |
| 18:33.01 | Hideme | State: installed; will be removed because nothing depends on it |
| 18:33.03 | stew | Hideme: or actually, "aptitude search kernel-image-2.6.8-3-386" is enough |
| 18:33.18 | stew | Hideme: did you skip a lot of steps in the upgrade procedure |
| 18:33.25 | Hideme | idA kernel-image-2.6.8-3-386 - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.8 on 386. |
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| 18:33.53 | stew | Hideme: did you skip lots of steps in the upgrade procedure? |
| 18:34.30 | jhamlin | hey folks, when I install a backport I put some entry in /etc/apt/preferences. then the backport has lots of dependencies that are backports. Do I need to also add each of those dependencies to /etc/apt/preferences? |
| 18:34.58 | Hideme | I did the following: aptitude update, aptitude install initrd-tools, aptitude upgrade, aptitude install linux-image-2.6-flavor. aptitude dist-upgrade |
| 18:34.59 | stew | jhamlin: you can also install with "-t etch-backports" |
| 18:35.29 | Hideme | The source list was still stable though. |
| 18:35.34 | stew | Hideme: i'd recommend using the procedure in the release notes. it would avoid problems liek the one you are having: /msg dpkg sarge->etch |
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| 18:35.42 | Hideme | just changed it to sarge. |
| 18:35.43 | stew | Hideme: the uprade procedure is in chapter 4 of the release notes |
| 18:35.56 | jhamlin | stew: I guess I don't understand the purpose of the entry in /etc/apt/preferences... |
| 18:37.42 | stew | jhamlin: yes, i believe that if you wnat to avoid having to type -t etch-backports, you'd have to add dependencies to preferences as well. the manpage for preferences is "apt_preferences" |
| 18:38.19 | jhamlin | stew: thanks |
| 18:38.22 | Jrm__ | !lenny |
| 18:38.22 | dpkg | from memory, lenny is the codename for the next Debian release, currently testing. To upgrade to lenny, ask me about <etch->lenny>. Lenny is the binoculars. Lenny will be known as version 5.0 and it will hopefully be released soon (ask me about <wwlr>). A <moving target>. See also <testing> and <lenny status>. |
| 18:38.37 | stew | Hideme: there is probably little point in changing it to sarge now, if you've already run upgrade and installed initrd-tools from etch |
| 18:39.23 | stew | Hideme: but it looks like you skipped at least 4.3 |
| 18:40.47 | Hideme | stew The aptitude unmarkauto $(dpkg-query -W 'kernel-image-2.6.*' | cut -f1) ? |
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| 18:40.52 | Hideme | yeah I missed that |
| 18:41.07 | Hideme | understood it as only stuff I wanted to hold back |
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| 18:46.02 | jhamlin | is it true that in korganizer 3.5.7, event titles cannot be word wrapped in month view?? |
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| 18:46.34 | endra | hey |
| 18:47.05 | BenBE3 | Does anyone know where I can find Nico Golde (preferrably here on IRC)? |
| 18:47.20 | EugenMayer | iam getting a strange error starting clamav. http://pastebin.com/m2a64f85e .. when i create /tmp/clamav the server starts |
| 18:47.28 | endra | I want to setup a VPN server on my dedicated machine (remote, no X interface). Which software should I use as the server? |
| 18:47.51 | endra | ^^^ Also if it's possible to tunnel everything through ssh it would be better |
| 18:49.13 | asg | endra: if you aren't worried about performance, pppd + ssh provides a nice simple hack. Otherwise, look at openvpn |
| 18:49.36 | endra | would pppd + ssh go over ssh? |
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| 18:51.31 | bolt | I'm using autossh to keep a few port forwarding connections open. My problem is that sometimes when the connection breaks down for some reason and comes back really quick, the ports I'm trying to forward on the server (using -R) are still in use when autossh reconnects, so it wont get the tunnels back up. When the old connection finally times out, the ports are not forwarded. Anything I can do about that? |
| 18:51.40 | ma3x | what can i use to insert text into pdf file? i've tried pdfedit flpsed, it doesn't work that well |
| 18:51.45 | ma3x | or that thing pdftk |
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| 18:53.25 | hudu | Is 'debian-40r5-i386-CD-1.iso' the image I need to setup debian while connected to the internet with my dsl router? |
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| 18:53.41 | abrotman | that should work |
| 18:53.55 | hudu | abrotman: so, I only need the first cd? |
| 18:54.13 | abrotman | you should only really need the netinst |
| 18:54.20 | EugenMayer | do i need to add a user to a specific group to let him able to write to /tmp or /var/tmp |
| 18:54.34 | abrotman | you shouldn't |
| 18:54.44 | hudu | abrotman: thx, then that's the one I will get ... 'debian-40r4a-etchnhalf-i386-netinst.iso' |
| 18:54.54 | bolt | hudu: that should work fine |
| 18:55.04 | hudu | awesome ... thanks much |
| 18:55.05 | abrotman | hudu: should be okay, use a CDRW if you have one |
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| 18:55.25 | EugenMayer | abrotman: does the user have to have a uid < X ? |
| 18:55.44 | abrotman | nope |
| 18:55.49 | abrotman | EugenMayer: ls -ld /tmp/ |
| 18:56.12 | EugenMayer | abrotman: drwxrwxrwt 5 root root 20480 Nov 7 19:55 /tmp/ |
| 18:56.27 | EugenMayer | abrotman: i checked that, thats not the problem somehow |
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| 18:57.44 | abrotman | EugenMayer: and if you `touch /tmp/foo` ? |
| 18:58.14 | EugenMayer | abrotman: it works. I just read that it could be a problem with the library clamav has been compiled |
| 18:58.20 | EugenMayer | http://havp.hege.li/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=343&p=1363 |
| 18:58.44 | EugenMayer | iam using clamav from a |
| 18:58.45 | EugenMayer | deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile etch/volatile main contrib non-free |
| 18:58.56 | abrotman | i use the same clamav .. works fine |
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| 18:59.52 | EugenMayer | where should libclamav.so.2.0.8 be located on etchj |
| 18:59.58 | EugenMayer | var/lib is not the place to be |
| 19:00.27 | jelly-home | EugenMayer: almost always /usr/lib |
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| 19:01.35 | jelly-home | EugenMayer: what symptom makes you think there's an issue with the way library is built? |
| 19:01.51 | EugenMayer | jelly: the forum post i linked in the upper |
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| 19:03.20 | jelly-home | EugenMayer: which one of those posts is your? |
| 19:03.29 | ma3x | how can i edit pdf (insert text inside the document) in debian? |
| 19:03.35 | jelly-home | yours* |
| 19:03.40 | EugenMayer | jelly-home: no one, i just have the same proble |
| 19:04.33 | EugenMayer | i mean can you explain why it cant create a dir in tmp while tmp is worl writeable ? |
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| 19:04.40 | EugenMayer | if i create that dir it works fine |
| 19:04.42 | abrotman | EugenMayer: HDD is full ? |
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| 19:04.53 | EugenMayer | abrotman: "if i create the dir it works fine |
| 19:04.57 | jelly-home | EugenMayer: so, you're using havp, and have checked clamd.conf for weird TemporaryDirectory settings, and it's not there? |
| 19:05.06 | abrotman | EugenMayer: you're not putting anything in it though ? |
| 19:05.08 | EugenMayer | ll /tmp | grep clamavdrwxr-xr-x 2 clamav clamav 4.0K Nov 7 20:04 clamav/ |
| 19:05.15 | EugenMayer | abrotman: no. |
| 19:05.25 | abrotman | EugenMayer: find the command that is failing |
| 19:05.27 | EugenMayer | jelly: using the standard configuration |
| 19:05.43 | abrotman | EugenMayer: and how did you install clamav ? aptitude install clamav ? |
| 19:05.56 | jelly-home | EugenMayer: have you checked clamd.conf for for weird TemporaryDirectory settings? |
| 19:05.58 | EugenMayer | abrotman: exactly |
| 19:06.06 | EugenMayer | jelly-home: thats the config http://pastebin.com/m76d30024 |
| 19:06.22 | EugenMayer | abrotman: i installed it the debian way. just like everything on this server |
| 19:06.33 | jelly-home | EugenMayer: that doesn't answer my question |
| 19:07.08 | EugenMayer | jelly-home: on that pastebing you have my clamav.conf. like you can see, tmp is on /tmp/clamav |
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| 19:07.24 | EugenMayer | if you ask me, its a bug in clamav. It does not create the dir if its not there |
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| 19:08.13 | EugenMayer | jelly-home: i would say /tmp/clamav is quite a normal not "weired" setup |
| 19:08.25 | jelly-home | EugenMayer: I have clamav-daemon=0.94.dfsg-1~volatile1, and my clamd.conf has "TemporaryDirectory /tmp" |
| 19:08.25 | EugenMayer | abrotman: "command line failing" you mean strace ? |
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| 19:08.33 | jelly-home | EugenMayer: and it works. |
| 19:08.46 | EugenMayer | jelly-home: ok as you see, you point to /tmp directly |
| 19:08.49 | abrotman | EugenMayer: paste the error you're seeing in a pastebin |
| 19:09.00 | jelly-home | EugenMayer: fix the config. |
| 19:09.25 | endra | how can I make it load module ppp-compress-18 on boot? |
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| 19:09.45 | jelly-home | EugenMayer: finding out the cause of that entry being broken might be a bit more difficult |
| 19:09.48 | EugenMayer | it makes no sence asking for a tmp directory if you cant create the subdir jelly-home, this is just not logical. A tmp dir is there to do so |
| 19:10.22 | EugenMayer | jelly-home: i fixed it with setting it to tmp, but that is not suprising, thats just bad semantics by clamav |
| 19:10.33 | EugenMayer | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/m2a64f85e |
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| 19:10.44 | jelly-home | EugenMayer: why, is there something wrong with clamd using /tmp directly? |
| 19:10.58 | EugenMayer | jelly-home: filename clashes? |
| 19:10.59 | rps | id like to create a live cd using the bootcd package. does anyone know if it will still need to read the cd after its booted or if it will place everything in the ramdisk |
| 19:11.32 | jelly-home | EugenMayer: every decent unix app handles those gracefully (ie, evades them) |
| 19:12.12 | ramanK | I tried to install etch on my PC , but it can't detect my Hard Drive and ask me to choose a driver , which one must be choosen? |
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| 19:12.12 | abrotman | EugenMayer: i meant the command and *all* its output |
| 19:12.12 | EugenMayer | jelly-home: who gives you the garanty that such a filename does not exists? if clamavs code is so "strange" so they make a extra io check to check for an existing file, iam even more suprised. |
| 19:12.12 | abrotman | rps: are you planning to remove the CD drive? :) |
| 19:12.20 | abrotman | ramanK: try the etchnhalf netinst |
| 19:12.27 | jelly-home | EugenMayer: did you change the TemporaryDirectory manually, or did the installation set it up that way? |
| 19:12.29 | EugenMayer | abrotman: command, not sure what command you want. Iam starting with the initscript |
| 19:12.45 | abrotman | EugenMayer: ah okay .. put a `set -x` at the top of the initscript .. and paste all that output |
| 19:12.52 | ramanK | abrotman: I have no high speed internet |
| 19:12.52 | abrotman | (after the shebang) |
| 19:12.53 | EugenMayer | jelly-home: cant replay that 100%, so can give you an proper answer |
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| 19:13.11 | abrotman | ramanK: you have 56k dialup ? |
| 19:13.12 | rps | abrotman: im looking at the posibility of creating a network router/firewall appliance to sevice K-12 schools... i would like to have something that boots from an IDE flash card then only runs off the ramdisk... not sure if bootcd is the best way to do that... |
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| 19:13.20 | jelly-home | EugenMayer: well, you can just change it back to /tmp and be done with it. |
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| 19:13.34 | ramanK | abrotman: real : 3Kbps |
| 19:13.46 | abrotman | ramanK: 3? |
| 19:13.47 | jelly-home | EugenMayer: the filename clash is not an issue. man 3 mktemp |
| 19:13.53 | EugenMayer | jelly-home: the solution is not to workarround bugs, the solution is to solve them or bugtrack them :) |
| 19:13.59 | ramanK | abrotman: yeah :( |
| 19:14.01 | abrotman | rps: ah .. i'm not sure .. but you could also do something like a diskless client |
| 19:14.05 | jelly-home | EugenMayer: THERE IS NO BUG |
| 19:14.14 | abrotman | ramanK: like .. a 28.8 modem ? |
| 19:14.20 | EugenMayer | jelly-home: relaxe. Iam not trolling. Iam not offending. |
| 19:14.21 | ramanK | abrotman: yeah |
| 19:14.39 | jelly-home | EugenMayer: it's only a bug if that setting was made automatically, I mean |
| 19:14.39 | abrotman | ramanK: okay then .. what is your HDD controller ? |
| 19:15.02 | rps | abrotman: thanks, ill google. |
| 19:15.04 | ramanK | abrotman: I've a SATA II Maxtor Hard Drive |
| 19:15.10 | EugenMayer | jelly-home: i got that. But as you know, its nothing unusal to use seperated tmp dirs in /tmp |
| 19:15.22 | EugenMayer | jelly-home: take all the big apps, kde gnome or whatever |
| 19:15.36 | EugenMayer | jelly-home: x11 |
| 19:15.38 | abrotman | ramanK: it's the controller, not the HDD |
| 19:15.58 | EugenMayer | jelly-home: but lets stop the fighting. I got your point, thank you for the solution ofc |
| 19:16.01 | ramanK | abrotman: can you give me an example? |
| 19:16.10 | ilaiho | No luck with Counter-Strike either. |
| 19:16.22 | abrotman | ramanK: lspci .. you sohuld see it there |
| 19:16.24 | jelly-home | EugenMayer: they put static sockets and other stuff that stays there during the whole lifetime of the app; clamd doesn't normally leave anything in there |
| 19:16.30 | ilaiho | Lenny + WINE + DirectX + fglrx combination is broken. |
| 19:16.32 | abrotman | ramanK: though it will probably say unknown |
| 19:16.38 | EugenMayer | is there a way to create exactly the same partitions on a other ( exactly the same hdd ) drive ? |
| 19:16.46 | abrotman | ramanK: like this 00:11.0 Mass storage controller: Silicon Image, Inc. SiI 3112 [SATALink/SATARaid] Serial ATA Controller (rev 02) |
| 19:16.59 | zinx | EugenMayer: dd |
| 19:17.27 | bolt | how can I get netstat to stop giving me truncated addresses to get pretty columns? the information is useless without the full address |
| 19:17.35 | jelly-home | ilaiho: you didn't get the free Crossover Games license the other day? |
| 19:17.39 | abraXxl | EugenMayer: yes if you talk about PC-BIOS Partition tables dd if=/dev/oldhdddevice of=dev/newhdddev bs=512 count=1 |
| 19:17.49 | ramanK | abrotman: and in the output which part is the name of driver? |
| 19:17.51 | paxcoder | bolt: either expand the width of terminal window, or redirect to file |
| 19:18.01 | EugenMayer | jelly-home: if you ask me, failing to start because of of the missing tmp directory is absolutly bad app-design under linux. I mean, they all have tmp..fall back if needed but dont just refuse starting..drop a warning or whatever. I mean in that chain, exim will just not work ( because ACLs fail ) etc |
| 19:18.12 | stew | abraXxl: that will only get the primary partition table, not the logical partitions though |
| 19:18.13 | paxcoder | bolt: netstat > tmp.txt && less tmp.txt |
| 19:18.17 | bolt | paxcoder: neither have any effect |
| 19:18.18 | EugenMayer | abraXxl: would that copy the data also ? |
| 19:18.19 | zinx | EugenMayer: the temporary directory is expected to exist already |
| 19:18.25 | ilaiho | jelly-home: is it free nowadays? |
| 19:18.29 | EugenMayer | zinx: got that |
| 19:18.35 | abraXxl | stew: you are right |
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| 19:18.52 | jelly-home | EugenMayer: something set up a custom setting in there. It's not unusual that the daemon failed with invalid config |
| 19:18.57 | bolt | paxcoder: the address is not at the end. it's the second to last column. |
| 19:19.00 | ilaiho | ah, yes |
| 19:19.02 | abraXxl | EugenMayer,: nope, if you would lik to do so use dd on the whole disks |
| 19:19.04 | ilaiho | I got one. |
| 19:19.17 | EugenMayer | abraXxl: no i dont, thats the point :) |
| 19:19.17 | abrotman | ramanK: i'm asking you which controller to see if the driver is in etch at all |
| 19:19.22 | Hideme | stew still get that kernel error... how can I verify I'll have one when it reboots? |
| 19:19.25 | Hideme | check /boot? |
| 19:19.44 | stew | Hideme: what error? you should under no circumstances let it remove the running kernel |
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| 19:19.57 | jelly-home | ilaiho: no, but they were giving away licenses for $0 on 2008-10-28 |
| 19:20.01 | ramanK | abrotman: thank you , I'll see it |
| 19:20.11 | paxcoder | bolt: you mean like www (computer names) & stuff? |
| 19:20.17 | Hideme | stew It keeps wanting to... Removing kernel-image-2.6.8-3-386 |
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| 19:20.28 | abraXxl | EugenMayer, but as stew states if you have logical partitions you, these structures will not copied |
| 19:20.46 | bolt | paxcoder: "tcp6 0 0 serv:ssh ::ffff:194.0.169.1:4866 ESTABLISHED" |
| 19:20.56 | bolt | paxcoder: I doubt that IP is supposed to end with .1 |
| 19:21.01 | stew | EugenMayer: if you want to copy partition tables from one disk to another, use sfdisk |
| 19:21.13 | stew | Hideme: did you follow the steps in 4.3 ? |
| 19:21.33 | Hideme | stew Yes. |
| 19:21.37 | paxcoder | bolt: why not? |
| 19:21.43 | EugenMayer | stew: how woudl i do that? beside i dont have logical drives. this is just a prepare step for a raid |
| 19:21.54 | bolt | paxcoder: there are much longer names there too, and they're all being cut |
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| 19:22.02 | bolt | paxcoder: also, i know the connection comes from .180 |
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| 19:22.35 | EugenMayer | abraXxl: thank you, your way work ( as no logical drivers where existent ) |
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| 19:23.00 | stew | Hideme: show me the output of "aptitude search kernel-image-2.6.8-3-386" |
| 19:23.04 | bolt | can't be that bloody hard to get netstat to stop looking pritty and start giving me the info i need |
| 19:23.11 | paxcoder | bolt: if redirecting isn't working, I have no idea. nothing from man? |
| 19:23.18 | bolt | paxcoder: nope |
| 19:23.43 | Hideme | id kernel-image-2.6.8-3-386 - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.8 on 386. |
| 19:24.13 | paxcoder | bolt: wish i knew. says everything to me... |
| 19:24.13 | EugenMayer | is there a way to tell a level 1 ( raid 1 ) raid with 1 drive ( created that way ) to use 2 drives now? |
| 19:24.15 | stew | Hideme: what command are you running that wants to remove that package? |
| 19:24.29 | bolt | paxcoder: do you have any lines longer than 80 characters? |
| 19:24.30 | KDesk | What should I use, apt-* or aptitude? |
| 19:25.02 | abrotman | aptitude in most cases |
| 19:25.16 | paxcoder | bolt: some of those non-network thingies. but they get wrapped |
| 19:25.47 | guysoft42 | hey, how do i get with apt-get source an experimental version? |
| 19:25.57 | paxcoder | bolt: if there's an ip, it should not take more than 80 |
| 19:26.01 | Hideme | stew well... for etch you'd think we'd be at a higher kernel version. 2.6.8 is rather low... I see 2.6.18 is available, so I use aptitude to select it... when it does the pre-config part that is what happens. |
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| 19:26.07 | bolt | paxcoder: it's ipv6 |
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| 19:26.33 | stew | Hideme: etch has both 2.6.18 and. 2.6.24 |
| 19:26.39 | paxcoder | bolt: are you sure? :-) |
| 19:26.41 | stew | Hideme: show us the actual command you typed and the actual output, use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 19:27.01 | jelly-home | EugenMayer: my apologies for being rude unnecessarily; have a mdadm /dev/md0 --add /dev/sdb2 in case it's a linux md raid |
| 19:27.19 | Hideme | stew I simply selected it in aptitude and hit "+" to install the 2.6.18 kernel |
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| 19:27.25 | bolt | paxcoder: well, as you can see it prints tcp6 and ffff:whatever. i dunno if it's ipv6 actually, but it sure does take more than the allowed column space |
| 19:27.47 | stew | Hideme: use = on the older kernel to tell it not to remove it |
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| 19:28.00 | EugenMayer | jelly-home: no problems at all, just a discussion :) yours would only add it, but maybe it was not clear, i needed to grow: mdadm --grow /dev/md1 --raid-disks=2 ( found right now ) |
| 19:28.03 | Hideme | stew ok |
| 19:28.06 | EugenMayer | jelly-home: thank you anyway |
| 19:28.15 | stew | Hideme: or follow the upgrade procedure in the release notes |
| 19:28.16 | paxcoder | bolt: i don't know. |
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| 19:28.54 | twobitsprite | I'm following the etch->lenny factoid, and when trying to "aptitude install dpkg aptitude" after changing my sources.list it tells me apt-utils and libc6 are broken |
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| 19:29.01 | twobitsprite | is this normal? |
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| 19:29.44 | bolt | I'm using autossh to keep a few port forwarding connections open. My problem is that sometimes when the connection breaks down for some reason and comes back really quick, the ports I'm trying to forward on the server (using -R) are still in use when autossh reconnects, so it wont get the tunnels back up. When the old connection finally times out, the ports are not forwarded. Anything I can do about that? |
| 19:29.53 | abrotman | why does it tell people to install dpkg/aptitude ? |
| 19:29.58 | pickcoder | is aprehensively upgrading to lenny |
| 19:30.13 | twobitsprite | abrotman: I imagine to avoid bugs in dpkg/aptitude? |
| 19:30.15 | twobitsprite | I'm not sure |
| 19:30.21 | paxcoder | always found that name curious ^^ |
| 19:30.26 | twobitsprite | think I could reasonable skip that step |
| 19:30.40 | abrotman | oh .. themill isn't here |
| 19:30.43 | twobitsprite | (sorry, I know... enter is not punctuation |
| 19:30.56 | Hideme | stew lol I have followed the release notes... this wasn't mentioned. Look like 2.6.8-sarge5 wasn't removed and my running kernel. Using = seems to do the trick so far. |
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| 19:31.42 | guysoft42 | writing apt-get source opensync-module-python=0.22-2 does not seem to work. |
| 19:31.54 | Hideme | stew So that completed atleast... how do I verify which kernel will actually run once I reboot? |
| 19:32.10 | twobitsprite | abrotman: ohh... because the version of aptitude in etch doesn't have the full-upgrade command |
| 19:32.11 | pickcoder | paxcoder: ) |
| 19:32.26 | stew | Hideme: see what is set as default in /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 19:32.26 | endra | I setup pptpd for a VPN connection and I am testing it with windows vista but it doesn't seem to work properly.. vista just says Error 800: Unable to establish the VPN connection. The VPN server may be unreachable, or security parameters may not be configured properly for this connection. Is there something specific I should configure for pptpd to work properly? |
| 19:32.30 | Hideme | stew uname -a still reports: Linux misc2 2.6.8-3-386 |
| 19:32.32 | Hideme | k |
| 19:32.38 | mark_____ | how can i find out in which apt package a file is? (my instalation is missing xrdb) |
| 19:32.46 | jelly-home | twobitsprite: also, because it's more buggy |
| 19:33.12 | stew | mark_____: /msg dpkg apt-file ; /msg dpkg search |
| 19:33.23 | mark_____ | ty stew |
| 19:33.35 | abrotman | twobitsprite: yeah .. but that's a bad idea |
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| 19:34.30 | Hideme | stew 8 are listed, all have a "savedefault" line... how do I know which ? |
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| 19:35.40 | twobitsprite | abrotman: oh? |
| 19:36.13 | twobitsprite | but...but...but... dpkg told me to do it..... :) |
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| 19:38.57 | stew | Hideme: look for the line containing "default" |
| 19:39.24 | solid_liq | does anyone know what utility I use to determine the filesystem type of an unmounted partition? mount doesn't know the type, and I know there's a utility for this, I just can't remember which utility |
| 19:39.41 | stew | solid_liq: file -s /dev/whatever |
| 19:39.45 | twobitsprite | I don't know, what utility /do/ you use? |
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| 19:40.01 | solid_liq | stew: hmm, that only shows: "data" |
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| 19:40.15 | mark____1 | iceweasel does not open as a normal user (only if i use sudo iceweasel). just installed a fresh lenny minimal with fluxbox. why cant i start iceweasel as a normal user (i do not even get an error message) |
| 19:40.32 | twobitsprite | what user does it run as? |
| 19:40.32 | amphi | solid_liq: that's not a good sign (unless it's encrypted) |
| 19:40.45 | solid_liq | amphi: it's an mdraid raid1 partition |
| 19:40.49 | stew | mark_____: is another copy of iceweasel already running? |
| 19:41.04 | mark____1 | stew: no |
| 19:41.20 | jelly-home | mark____1: are any of the files in the user's $HOME/.firefox owned by root? |
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| 19:41.25 | stew | mark____1: try temporarily moving your ~/.mozilla directory |
| 19:41.27 | Roland- | hello. no firefox3 ? |
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| 19:41.40 | jelly-home | stew: .mozilla? |
| 19:41.44 | Hideme | stew default 0? |
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| 19:42.28 | mark____1 | jelly-home: stew: yes you are right. .mozilla was owned by root |
| 19:42.31 | mark____1 | thank you guys |
| 19:42.35 | twobitsprite | !tell Roland- about ff3 |
| 19:43.03 | stew | Hideme: that means the first one listed |
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| 19:43.32 | pickcoder | ARGH.. hal broke the upgrade |
| 19:43.37 | stew | Roland-: can you ask a more specific question? |
| 19:43.40 | Hideme | stew Thanks for all your help today. I've learnt a few things. |
| 19:44.11 | Roland- | stew if I do apt-get install firefox I get the 2 version which is quite old. |
| 19:44.17 | robokop | how can i use sram pcmcia cards, they apear in dmesg but not in /dev ? |
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| 19:44.48 | paxcoder | Roland-: are you using sid (stable)? |
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| 19:45.02 | Roland- | yes, as I should |
| 19:45.08 | robokop | paxcoder: sid!=stable |
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| 19:45.20 | paxcoder | robokop: huh? |
| 19:45.22 | paxcoder | oh etch |
| 19:45.23 | paxcoder | sry |
| 19:45.29 | Roland- | is debian 5.0 still beta? ore prerelease |
| 19:45.36 | paxcoder | Roland-: on a server? |
| 19:45.43 | stew | Roland-: yes, gtk 10 has not been backported to etch, /msg dpkg etch ff3 |
| 19:45.47 | pickcoder | ponders why a rerun of dist-upgrade is downloading more packages |
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| 19:46.37 | stew | Roland-: its frozen, it has not been released yet |
| 19:46.38 | twobitsprite | Roland-: aptitude lists 3.0.3-3 for iceweasel |
| 19:46.42 | paxcoder | Roland-: it's called testing. Most desktop users have it. Equivalent of beta is unstable. |
| 19:46.48 | twobitsprite | (in lenny) |
| 19:46.59 | ma3x | where does debian store the config file for printers added on the computer? |
| 19:47.12 | twobitsprite | ma3x: are you using cups? |
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| 19:47.22 | Roland- | well I am a desktop user but if it is in some advanced stage is ok but if is just released I'm gonna pass |
| 19:47.27 | trentg | Anybody know of a non-us mirror with testing? |
| 19:47.48 | stew | trentg: there is no non-us anymore: /msg dpkg crypto in main |
| 19:47.49 | trentg | Or is dists/testing renamed? |
| 19:47.54 | twobitsprite | !tell Roland- about testing |
| 19:48.04 | ma3x | yes twobitsprite |
| 19:48.39 | trentg | stew: thanks |
| 19:49.00 | stew | ma3x: /etc/cups |
| 19:49.30 | Roland- | any ideas WHEN will 5.0 be stable? |
| 19:49.53 | pickcoder | Roland-: check the release critical bugs for it |
| 19:50.04 | stew | Roland-: when it no longer has release critical bugs holding up the release |
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| 19:50.07 | ma3x | my administrator denied read access on cupsd.conf and printers.conf |
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| 19:50.23 | twobitsprite | ma3x: maybe you should be talking to your admin :) |
| 19:50.25 | ma3x | is there a way i can find out the printer's address and other settings? |
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| 19:50.55 | ma3x | it's funny because when you open a document, you go to the print properties and there you can see the settings |
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| 19:51.05 | ma3x | but no read access on those files |
| 19:51.31 | pickcoder | meh.. stupid nfs share was mounted |
| 19:51.39 | pickcoder | crosses finders |
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| 19:52.36 | Roland- | one more question and I'm done |
| 19:52.42 | endra | hey, I got pptpd working properly and my windows client is finally conencting but he can't access anything outside of the network.. how come? |
| 19:52.55 | Roland- | if I install 5.0 now, when the stable version will be released will I have to REINSTALL ? |
| 19:53.22 | stew | Roland-: no |
| 19:53.25 | pickcoder | Roland-: not if you use the release name and not "stable" or "testing" |
| 19:53.46 | Roland- | pickcoder, I don't understand |
| 19:53.56 | pickcoder | in your sources.list |
| 19:54.39 | pickcoder | put "lenny" in your sources.list instead of "etch" or whatever and do a dist-upgrade to get lenny installed. Once it goes stable, your machine will stay lenny. |
| 19:54.40 | Lagbolt | Roland-, use lenny instead of stable/etch or testing |
| 19:54.59 | pickcoder | if you say "testing" to get lenny now, you will then get the next testing release when 5.0 is released as stable |
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| 19:55.34 | paxcoder | Lagbolt: pickcoder: are you suggesting he upgrades from stable to testing? |
| 19:55.43 | pickcoder | if he wants to get 5.0 right now |
| 19:55.44 | paxcoder | *via sources.list? |
| 19:55.56 | Lagbolt | paxcoder, no i am suggesting lenny because he asked for 5.0 |
| 19:55.59 | Lagbolt | not testing |
| 19:56.13 | paxcoder | Lagbolt: 5.0 is not out. lenny is testing, afaik |
| 19:56.23 | Lagbolt | paxcoder, right but it is frozen and quite stable |
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| 19:56.32 | Roland- | where can I get lenny ? |
| 19:56.33 | paxcoder | Lagbolt: not when you upgrade from stable |
| 19:56.34 | stew | lenny is testing is 5.0, and is not yet released. |
| 19:56.35 | Lagbolt | and he asked if he did it now if it will become stable or have to reinstall |
| 19:56.36 | pickcoder | is freezing in his office |
| 19:56.38 | stew | Roland-: /msg dpkg etch->lenny |
| 19:56.43 | paxcoder | we had a discussion about this, didn't we? |
| 19:57.00 | Lagbolt | i understand what you are saying but he asked a simple question |
| 19:57.11 | Lagbolt | if he is using 5.0 will he have to reinstall when it is released |
| 19:57.19 | Lagbolt | and the answer is no if he uses lenny in sources. |
| 19:57.34 | paxcoder | Lagbolt: well tell him to DL fresh testing |
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| 19:58.38 | Roland- | performing update |
| 19:58.52 | paxcoder | !update-xmlcatalog bug |
| 19:58.53 | dpkg | There is a known bug in with the xml catalogs in upgrading from etch to lenny. See http://bugs.debian.org/482140. If you are affected by this bug and can offer help, please do so. Follow the advice in that bug report to solve the bug. |
| 19:58.59 | paxcoder | was that it? |
| 19:59.12 | pickcoder | make sure you unmount any NFS mounts before you dist-upgrade.. :) I just had my upgrade break b/c of that. |
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| 19:59.36 | stew | pickcoder: can you file a bug? |
| 19:59.41 | pickcoder | there is no bug |
| 19:59.50 | pickcoder | you can't upgrade nfs-common with mounted shares |
| 20:00.00 | ma3x | where do you disable the dots at the end of every line in jedit? |
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| 20:00.06 | ma3x | i couldn't find it in the options |
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| 20:00.12 | Roland- | looks nice :P |
| 20:00.32 | paxcoder | Roland-: wait when it starts crashing |
| 20:00.33 | pickcoder | stew: I had to do some manual upgrading to figure that out |
| 20:00.34 | Roland- | but why is firefox3 still on testing ? |
| 20:00.41 | pickcoder | the error codes from hal didn't say anything about nfs problems |
| 20:00.46 | Roland- | paxcoder it starts crashing ? :) |
| 20:00.47 | pickcoder | s/hal/hal upgrade |
| 20:00.57 | paxcoder | Roland-: i was trying to warn you all this time. |
| 20:01.05 | stew | Roland-: testing has iceweasel 3 which is basically a rebranded copy of firefox 3 |
| 20:01.08 | paxcoder | upgrade from stable to testing is bad |
| 20:01.09 | robokop | how can i use sram pcmcia cards, they apear in dmesg but not in /dev ? |
| 20:01.32 | Roland- | paxcoder, I will do a clean install |
| 20:01.43 | paxcoder | Roland-: consider testing as default for desktop users. |
| 20:01.45 | stew | Roland-: there is no reason to do a clean install |
| 20:01.46 | Roland- | install only the base system and then edit sources and after that install the rest |
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| 20:02.02 | Roland- | yes there is a reason I have to get rid of ubuntu |
| 20:02.02 | Roland- | :)_ |
| 20:02.03 | paxcoder | stew: huh? |
| 20:02.03 | stew | paxcoder: why is upgrade from stable to testing bad? |
| 20:02.18 | stew | paxcoder: what? |
| 20:02.20 | paxcoder | stew: things crash, beats me. |
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| 20:02.38 | Roland- | paxcoder, can you give me an example |
| 20:02.50 | stew | paxcoder: what crashes? |
| 20:02.54 | paxcoder | Roland-: firefox disappears suddenly :-) |
| 20:02.59 | pickcoder | crap.. atop won't start |
| 20:03.06 | Roland- | firefox 3 ? or default one |
| 20:03.11 | Roland- | I ca always recmpile firefox |
| 20:03.20 | stew | Roland-: there is no reason to recompile firefox |
| 20:03.32 | stew | Roland-: are you having trouble with firefox? |
| 20:03.41 | Roland- | not yet |
| 20:03.59 | paxcoder | stew: as someone explained to me, packages don't come to stable one by one, like unstable to testing, but all at once, and then you can screw things up if you do dist-upgrade, because it isn't the right order or something... I'm not sure. |
| 20:04.00 | Roland- | but I am expecting to have after what paxcoder said |
| 20:04.17 | pickcoder | nukes atop |
| 20:04.27 | paxcoder | stew: i think themill has more info |
| 20:04.28 | stew | Roland-: you can ignore paxcoder |
| 20:05.13 | paxcoder | Roland-: yeah.... untill your browser crashes. I predict one hour tops. |
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| 20:05.30 | stew | paxcoder: what is going to cause his browser to crash? |
| 20:05.46 | paxcoder | stew: how would I know? I speak from experience. |
| 20:06.00 | paxcoder | plus what ppl told me |
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| 20:06.44 | Roland- | is anybody here using 5.0 ? |
| 20:06.50 | stew | Roland-: yes, lots of people |
| 20:07.13 | paxcoder | stew: i just checked logs, you were telling me it's not good as well. |
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| 20:07.24 | stew | paxcoder: what did i say? |
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| 20:07.35 | abrotman | Roland-: doing a dist-upgrade is fine .. i've had machines go through many versions of debian without issue |
| 20:07.42 | paxcoder | stew: Oct 21 15:23:48 <stew> steampunkey: becuase once stable switches from being etch to lenny, you'll start mixing lenny packages with etch, and things will breadk |
| 20:08.03 | abrotman | you're being misleading |
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| 20:08.06 | stew | paxcoder: that is a reason to not use "stable" in /etc/apt/sources.list, not a reason to do etch->lenny |
| 20:08.07 | paxcoder | Oct 21 15:23:50 <themill> steampunkey: because a large upgrade like sarge->etch is non-trivial and frequently must be done in stages. |
| 20:08.15 | Roland- | abrotman, that is what I remember about debian. haven;t used in years but I remmeber that debian was the only distro that you can upgrade everything withput anything to fail. |
| 20:08.20 | stew | Roland-: paxcoder is confused |
| 20:08.42 | paxcoder | Roland-: I don't know. Do what stew says. If it crashes tho, I suggest clean. |
| 20:08.49 | stew | paxcoder: yes, for the reasons you are stating, one should not have "stable" in /etc/apt/sources.list ; this has nothing to do with what he is talking about |
| 20:08.52 | abrotman | there's no reason to do a clean install |
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| 20:09.02 | Roland- | I have 2 debian servers running since 2002 and both have apt-get upgradte and update in daily cron ;P |
| 20:09.20 | jelly-home | Roland-: ew, upgrade in cron. |
| 20:09.27 | jelly-home | unwise |
| 20:09.31 | abrotman | we'll ignore he said that! |
| 20:09.36 | Roland- | was a good idea then |
| 20:09.39 | Roland- | they work fine now |
| 20:09.43 | jelly-home | maybe it was a -d upgrade. |
| 20:09.47 | Roland- | one is a mailserver and one a samba server |
| 20:09.55 | paxcoder | abrotman: great. then I don't know what we were talking about. |
| 20:10.01 | stew | Roland-: unattended upgrades are considered dangerous, becuase the upgrade can break your ability to login to fix things |
| 20:10.24 | abrotman | we've established that |
| 20:10.24 | Roland- | I don;t mind I can always boot from an cd. |
| 20:10.31 | Roland- | well |
| 20:10.39 | Roland- | like I said havent used debian in years |
| 20:10.55 | Roland- | I mean lol have't used linux on server in years. |
| 20:11.29 | paxcoder | goes away in disappointment |
| 20:11.48 | jelly-home | Roland-: might not be the best idea to offer advice on it then! |
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| 20:12.19 | stew | he's not |
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| 20:12.34 | jelly-home | ah, me dumb |
| 20:12.50 | jelly-home | Roland-: sorry |
| 20:12.51 | Roland- | I don't offer advice |
| 20:12.53 | Roland- | I seek advice |
| 20:12.57 | Roland- | planning to use debian |
| 20:13.02 | Roland- | just wanted to know about this 5.0 thing. |
| 20:13.10 | pickcoder | meh.. wordpress broke |
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| 20:13.13 | sfears | looking for some tech support, anyone in here savvy with networking & wireless config?? |
| 20:13.31 | dv_ | hi |
| 20:13.35 | Roland- | it would be a shame to install 4.0 now and find out after 1 week that 5.0 is out :) |
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| 20:13.45 | dv_ | is anybody here watching dvb-t? |
| 20:13.51 | jelly-home | Roland-: it wouldn't, if the upgrade path was known |
| 20:13.57 | dv_ | after the latest update, I cannot use my dvb-t card |
| 20:14.00 | abrotman | sfears: there is a #networking |
| 20:14.01 | dv_ | but it works in windows |
| 20:14.07 | sfears | cool.. will check that out |
| 20:14.09 | flami | !tell sfears about anyone |
| 20:14.11 | dv_ | I tried vlc, mplayer, gxine, totem, ... |
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| 20:15.21 | jelly-home | dv_: video drivers can be flaky. I'd try #dvb or #v4l |
| 20:15.33 | Roland- | also does debian have ati drivers ? |
| 20:15.48 | dv_ | jelly-home, the odd thing is that wscan and dvb-tune do work |
| 20:16.23 | abrotman | Roland-: which ati drivers? |
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| 20:16.30 | stew | Roland-: debian has ati drivers |
| 20:16.37 | jelly-home | dv_: how does eg. mplayer fail, then? can you play video files with it? |
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| 20:16.49 | Roland- | I would like the original ones, with catalyst |
| 20:16.49 | dv_ | files? |
| 20:16.50 | stew | Roland-: its unfortunately impossible to accurately predict when 5.0 will be released |
| 20:16.57 | dv_ | I'm trying to watch dvb-t TV |
| 20:17.01 | vtokarev | hi, can someone help me with touchpad issue, here is my Xorg log http://rafb.net/p/5te1Mi62.html, and the problem is that scrolling works fine, but not the clicks? |
| 20:17.13 | dv_ | "Not able to lock to the signal on the given frequency, timeout: 30" |
| 20:17.15 | dv_ | its like this |
| 20:17.26 | batcoder-7 | anyone here ever install debian with fluxbox ? |
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| 20:17.33 | abrotman | batcoder-7: lots of people |
| 20:17.48 | batcoder-7 | i was going to use fluxubuntu but its pretty outdated |
| 20:17.54 | maligor | Roland-, you can just install testing which will be the next stable relatively soon |
| 20:17.55 | zinx | Roland-: ati's drivers can generate debian packages; if you're going to use them, use that functionality |
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| 20:18.14 | stew | batcoder-7: lots of people here have inistalled debian with fluxbox |
| 20:18.17 | Roland- | so I have to download ati drivers from their website ? |
| 20:18.31 | jelly-home | dv_: can't help with that, sorry |
| 20:18.38 | batcoder-7 | i realllly hope i dont have that problem i had with my intel graphics chip |
| 20:18.54 | zinx | Roland-: if you want the ones from their site and the release you're using doesn't have them, then yes |
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| 20:19.37 | zinx | Roland-: you'll want to use --buildpkg Debian/<release> or --buildandinstallpkg Debian/<release> if you do use them, though |
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| 20:20.16 | Roland- | how can I check if my release has them |
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| 20:20.22 | Roland- | what is the name of the driver |
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| 20:22.03 | stew | Roland-: which card do you have? |
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| 20:22.48 | Roland- | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Mobilitiy Radeon HD 3400 Series |
| 20:23.31 | dv_ | ah |
| 20:23.53 | dv_ | so the channels.conf hat MSDOS style line endings (\r\n instead of \n) and this confused mplayer et al |
| 20:23.57 | dv_ | works now |
| 20:23.59 | Roland- | installed debian 5.0 on a vm and the system crashed :) |
| 20:24.00 | stew | Roland-: you don't need to use ati's non-free driver then, there is a free driver in debian for that card in the xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd package |
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| 20:24.35 | Roland- | so it's radeon hd |
| 20:24.46 | Roland- | is radeonhd having hdmi functionality, etc |
| 20:24.48 | Roland- | ? |
| 20:26.48 | batcoder-7 | i have a debian etch cd |
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| 20:27.05 | batcoder-7 | shoudl i install that then just upgrade to lenny ? |
| 20:27.13 | batcoder-7 | i wont leave any bloat around will it ? |
| 20:27.15 | abrotman | or just use the lenny netinst |
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| 20:27.34 | Roland- | abrotman, is there an lenny netinst ?! |
| 20:28.03 | batcoder-7 | abrotman: cd ? |
| 20:28.09 | abrotman | Roland-: yes |
| 20:28.17 | Roland- | where? |
| 20:28.19 | abrotman | debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ .. use the daily .. NOT the beta2 |
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| 20:29.32 | batcoder-7 | weekly you mean ? |
| 20:29.36 | Roland- | debian-testing-i386-netinst.iso ? |
| 20:29.43 | endra | How do I tell my pptpd (vpn) server to allow clients to access the internet using the vpn? |
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| 20:32.21 | jelly-home | endra: you want to tunnel all traffic and make the vpn server act as a router? |
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| 20:32.22 | jelly-home | endra: ipmasq probably |
| 20:32.33 | lbt | !dpkg clone |
| 20:32.33 | dpkg | our $apt=Blootbot->new($apt) |
| 20:32.42 | jelly-home | heh |
| 20:32.51 | lbt | ~dpkg clone |
| 20:32.58 | jelly-home | dpkg: where's the semicolon, bitch |
| 20:33.00 | dpkg | jelly-home: are you using Windows? |
| 20:33.11 | lbt | hmm how do I ask dpkg something :) |
| 20:33.33 | stew | lbt: /msg dpkg clone |
| 20:33.35 | lbt | I want to clone my setup when I install a new mobo/cpu |
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| 20:33.44 | stew | lbt: /msg dpkg aptitude clone ; /msg dpkg selections |
| 20:33.54 | lbt | ta... |
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| 20:33.59 | jelly-home | /msg dpkg debian clone |
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| 20:34.35 | lbt | different channels seem to have different bot interfaces |
| 20:34.40 | lbt | shouldn't be allowed ;) |
| 20:34.56 | batcoder-7 | stew: weekly or beta 2 ? |
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| 20:36.30 | jelly-home | lbt: well !debian clone works too, but it shows the factoid to the whole channel |
| 20:36.54 | stew | batcoder-7: i'd use a weekly, the beta 2 is quite old at this point |
| 20:37.39 | lbt | ah, clearly I need to stay in more... |
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| 20:44.06 | batcoder-7 | stew: i see |
| 20:44.09 | lbt | OK, so I just bought a new mobo and 64 bit CPU (Phenom something). I may as well install lenny from scratch; any tips/gotchas/suggestions wrt 64 bit debian? |
| 20:44.39 | lbt | will it 'just work' ? |
| 20:45.05 | Roland- | is 64 bit really faster ? |
| 20:45.17 | blairsooley | yea |
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| 20:46.05 | Roland- | do 32bit apps work on 64? |
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| 20:46.40 | jelly-home | Roland-: not as easily as on some other distros |
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| 20:46.50 | maligor | Roland-, it's not a whole lot faster |
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| 20:47.01 | maligor | it's easier to use 32bit if you need stuff like flash plugins |
| 20:47.17 | stew | Roland-: 64 bit is for applications that are specifically ready to take advantage of the extra operations, which wouldn't be many, and the gain would be slight in most cases. it has the detriment of using more memory than running the same applications in 32 bits |
| 20:47.19 | Roland- | ah that flash plugin issue still exists |
| 20:47.28 | pickcoder | Roland-: 64-bit is useful only if the application is 64-bit too or if you need a lot RAM |
| 20:47.34 | stew | maligor: its no harder to use flash plugins in 64 bit |
| 20:47.35 | maligor | adobe flashplayer is broken and has no 64bit version |
| 20:47.35 | Roland- | what about pae ? |
| 20:47.45 | lbt | would life be easier if I installed 32 bit Debian? and do I get the option when installing |
| 20:47.48 | maligor | stew, yeah, well, it's flaky |
| 20:47.55 | stew | maligor: i have not found it to be flaky |
| 20:48.04 | maligor | stew, version 10 is, version 9 is okeyish |
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| 20:48.16 | Roland- | wow 11 MB/s now that is an nice mirror:D |
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| 20:48.38 | maligor | lbt, it depends on the installation cd you use |
| 20:48.39 | jelly-home | lbt: for a desktop, yes, life would be easier; need to get and boot the i386 image, then |
| 20:49.19 | stew | lbt: things should not be significantly different in 32 bit verses 64 bit with lenny |
| 20:49.31 | lbt | would I be able to run 64 bit kvms? |
| 20:50.19 | maligor | kvms? |
| 20:50.27 | lbt | oops - I was thinking about kvm - sorry - apps |
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| 20:50.45 | lbt | <blush> |
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| 20:50.53 | jelly-home | lbt: (vm guests of any kind) on an 32-bit host? no? |
| 20:50.57 | stew | lbt: if you run a 64 bit kernel, you can run either 32 or 64 bit applications |
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| 20:51.31 | jelly-home | stew: tried using m-a with a 64-bit kernel? |
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| 20:51.35 | stew | jelly-home: yes |
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| 20:51.44 | stew | lbt: the things that might not be available for 64 bit are closed source / third party applications. opensource / free software should for the most part be working |
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| 20:51.48 | jelly-home | stew: did it work? |
| 20:51.49 | lbt | I'll end up compiling my own kernel so if I install a 32-bit i386 base then I can run it from a 64 bit kernel |
| 20:52.09 | lbt | I'm 99% OSS - I do use flash I guess for youtube |
| 20:52.11 | stew | jelly-home: yes |
| 20:52.24 | jelly-home | stew: nice! |
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| 20:53.17 | lbt | sounds like I should dl a 386 boot and go from there, possibly upgrading kernel to 64bit and allowing mixed apps for some applications |
| 20:53.17 | stew | jelly-home: no difference really. i've done it with alsa lots, for a few random things with the thinkpad like iwlwifi and never had problems. i'm embarassed to admit that I have a desktop that uses non-free nvidia drivers with no problem |
| 20:54.05 | lbt | yeah - I researched the X1950 as the best ATI/OSS card for me to get 4096x4096 3D (just for eye kandy) |
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| 20:54.32 | jelly-home | stew: I've had problems with both vmware and virtualbox (all nonfree) |
| 20:56.03 | stew | jelly-home: i've never tried either. it seems like virtualbox has lots of momentum behind it so hopefully that will get fixed up |
| 20:56.52 | maligor | you mean sun is pushing money in it |
| 20:56.54 | lbt | alright - thanks for the advice all..... I'm going now... I may be some time... |
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| 20:59.02 | pickcoder | if I ran a vm on lenny could I install another distro on it? |
| 20:59.13 | lbt | pickcoder: yes |
| 20:59.17 | pickcoder | is running out of hope at this point |
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| 20:59.26 | pickcoder | all I need it for is hylafax |
| 20:59.30 | pickcoder | nfs mount |
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| 20:59.37 | pickcoder | that's about it |
| 20:59.51 | pickcoder | the nfs mount can be on the root server for all I care |
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| 21:00.43 | pickcoder | where should I start |
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| 21:01.20 | gothenburg | God sawe the queen |
| 21:01.28 | Lyk4n8rwp0S | hello I'm trying to install debian on my old desktop but it keeps failing to configure APT sources. It does the DHCP process succefully but it doesn't "contact" a single thing. I have used 4.0r5 DVD's and etch-and-half netinstall and I'm kind off lost... any ideas anyone? |
| 21:01.43 | Laeborg | hello |
| 21:01.47 | lbt | pickcoder: you need to get the new vm to recognise some boot media |
| 21:02.06 | lbt | then treat it as a normal install for whatever you're doing |
| 21:02.07 | pickcoder | no.. I mean.. where do I _start_ |
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| 21:02.16 | lbt | google |
| 21:02.17 | pickcoder | I've never dealt with virtual machines |
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| 21:03.15 | pickcoder | xen? qemu? |
| 21:03.16 | Laeborg | im wasting my friday night on setting up a gateway server (got nothing else to do), but can you recommend any GUI software to "log" trafic and show trafic ect in real time ? |
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| 21:03.30 | pickcoder | I'd pay for a commercial solution too if it's worth it |
| 21:03.47 | vtokarev | how can I check what's wrong with synaptics driver? |
| 21:04.06 | pickcoder | Laeborg: wireshark, iptraf |
| 21:04.09 | jelly-home | pickcoder: vmware server and virtualbox are both $0 |
| 21:04.21 | stew | vtokarev: /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? |
| 21:04.25 | bzed | pickcoder: or kvm |
| 21:04.26 | pickcoder | I just need network and serial port access for hylafax |
| 21:04.27 | stew | vtokarev: what makes you think there is something wrong? |
| 21:04.28 | lbt | pickcoder: http://virt.kernelnewbies.org/KVM |
| 21:04.45 | Laeborg | pickcoder: can i also view type of trafic? http, p2p ect |
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| 21:04.54 | vtokarev | stew: click events are not propogated to xserver |
| 21:05.05 | bzed | Laeborg: wireshark is able to update sniffed packes in real time |
| 21:05.16 | pickcoder | I'll have to check if my procs support virtualization |
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| 21:05.46 | bzed | pickcoder: a vm just for hylafax sounds pretty much overkill |
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| 21:05.59 | vtokarev | stew: and xorg log looks fine |
| 21:06.01 | pickcoder | bzed: I will probably have to run it under fedora |
| 21:06.06 | stew | vtokarev: did you configure synaptics in /etc/X11/xorg.conf? |
| 21:06.07 | pickcoder | I don't want a fedora root server |
| 21:06.08 | bzed | pickcoder: why? |
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| 21:06.18 | pickcoder | hardware/software issues with mainpain |
| 21:06.21 | pickcoder | long story |
| 21:06.42 | pickcoder | my last step effort on Debian is 2.6.28-RC3 on Lenny |
| 21:06.55 | pickcoder | if I still can't talk to the boards then I'll have to go with FC9 |
| 21:07.03 | vtokarev | stew: nope, and if I do it just get worse (maybe wrong parameters though), but I didn't have to configure it with xorg 7.3 |
| 21:07.11 | bzed | pickcoder: which boards are you talking about? |
| 21:07.14 | pickcoder | IQExpress |
| 21:07.17 | pickcoder | the new series |
| 21:07.24 | bzed | pickcoder: and you could run a fedora kernel under debian |
| 21:07.32 | pickcoder | it's not the kernel |
| 21:07.41 | pickcoder | the senior dev is running a vanilla kernel |
| 21:07.44 | pickcoder | same as me |
| 21:07.50 | pickcoder | 'cept I can't talk to the boards |
| 21:07.51 | pickcoder | he can |
| 21:07.51 | khaleel5000 | hello, I have debian lenny , how do I check which driver is being used for my graphy, my xorg is http://rafb.net/p/TmbUyC28.html |
| 21:08.00 | pickcoder | the show up in dmesg just fine |
| 21:08.02 | jelly-home | pickcoder: did you get his kernel build? |
| 21:08.04 | pickcoder | stty works |
| 21:08.05 | Laeborg | what DE would you recommend me, when the only use of this server is gateway and maybe apache ? |
| 21:08.13 | pickcoder | he's running 64-bit.. we already went through this |
| 21:08.21 | amphi | khaleel5000: look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 21:08.42 | pickcoder | I'm betting the boards are toast |
| 21:08.47 | stew | vtokarev: i think MaxTapTime and MaxTapMove are the settings you want to look at. if you don't want to statically configure them in xorg.conf you should be able to use a tool like ksynatpics or gsynaptics to play with the setting in a running xserver |
| 21:08.50 | jelly-home | pickcoder: to me it just means you can't be 100% sure it's not the kernel, since you're not running the same one |
| 21:08.51 | pickcoder | but I can't prove that until I match his distro and kernel |
| 21:09.01 | pickcoder | I know! |
| 21:09.12 | PeterFA | xulrunner-stub often ends up getting larger and more CPU hungry as Iceweasel gets older and as I visit more Javascripted pages. Any workarounds or reasons for this? |
| 21:09.12 | pickcoder | he said I'm on my own at this point if I don't run FC9 |
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| 21:09.23 | jelly-home | so steal some 64bit machine and plug the boards! |
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| 21:09.37 | vtokarev | stew: hm, if I use gsynaptics then I can't make it either scroll or tap clicks |
| 21:09.39 | pickcoder | all of the 64-bit machines are running critical apps |
| 21:09.41 | pickcoder | I'm not going there |
| 21:09.50 | pickcoder | this machine is AMD X2 |
| 21:09.57 | pickcoder | so I could probably run amd64 on it |
| 21:09.59 | jelly-home | wonders why anyone would develop on FC, the bleeding edge of ... anything |
| 21:10.09 | stew | vtokarev: there might be some helpful docs in /msg dpkg synaptics |
| 21:10.13 | jelly-home | oh. they're developers |
| 21:10.17 | stew | vtokarev: and, of course, "man synaptics" |
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| 21:10.33 | vtokarev | stew: yep, that's what I tried to avoid :) |
| 21:10.47 | pickcoder | is trying to avoid a complete machine overhaul |
| 21:11.01 | pickcoder | a vm running FC9 would be less painful |
| 21:11.23 | Roland- | i get an packages |
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| 21:11.33 | Roland- | that is not available but is available in some otehr package |
| 21:11.35 | Roland- | what do I do |
| 21:11.35 | josh_ | hello! |
| 21:11.37 | Roland- | im am interested |
| 21:11.42 | jelly-home | pickcoder: if you were me, I'd say you were to lazy to do it the proper way |
| 21:11.42 | Roland- | in mstcorefonts |
| 21:11.54 | pickcoder | jelly-home: lazy? |
| 21:11.56 | pickcoder | how so |
| 21:12.04 | pickcoder | I'm not the developer |
| 21:12.14 | pickcoder | the developer has access to dev machines |
| 21:12.15 | jelly-home | pickcoder: ie. reproduce their env. and _then_ when it doesn't work, you have some leverage |
| 21:12.19 | pickcoder | to match MY setup |
| 21:12.35 | endra | I created a vpn (pptpd) server on my debian machine and I am using Windows Vista as a client.. I can connect/authenticate to the server properly and I access websites hosted on the server but I can't access the internet.. is this a client or server problem and what should I do to fix it? Thanks |
| 21:13.11 | jelly-home | pickcoder: that's the theory, but still it's you that needs the board to work more than them ;-) |
| 21:13.25 | josh_ | i have kind of messed up my runlevels on some start up programs in /etc/init.d/ with sysv-rc-conf .. is there a command i can use to reset everything to 'default' ? |
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| 21:14.23 | jelly-home | josh_: restore the contents of /etc/rc?.d/ from backups? |
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| 21:14.55 | stew | Roland-: /msg dpkg contrib |
| 21:15.59 | PeterFA | endra, probably because you need to pay close attention to your routing information. Information destine for default is going to bypass the VPN connection and go straight out. |
| 21:16.25 | PeterFA | endra, only data destined for the VPN server's subnet is going to go trough the tunnel. |
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| 21:16.55 | PeterFA | endra, if you want this to work to where all data goes through the tunnel, you need to set it up carefully. Consult the manual for your VPN, and read up on routing. |
| 21:17.02 | PeterFA | endra, you have to be a bit clever. |
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| 21:19.42 | sladi_ | I can't get elinks to display utf-8. It looks like the bug 331638 is closed though? |
| 21:20.11 | sladi_ | My locale is enUS utf-8 and I use Lenny weekly iso. |
| 21:20.51 | jelly-home | sladi_: it works for me even on etch; when did it break for you? |
| 21:21.34 | endra | PeterFA: I'm using poptop (pptpd) and there really isn't any documentation for it.. |
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| 21:22.58 | GhostlyDeath | I think libc6 is screwed up |
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| 21:23.33 | sladi_ | jelly-home: Well, I didn't need it before, I know UTF-8 I/O always caused weird display. I\m trying out on a virtual machine and under character set in elinks options utf-8 isn't even listed. |
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| 21:24.17 | jelly-home | sladi_: hm, I see it isn't listed, but it works by default until I switch to something else (and then can't go back ;-) |
| 21:24.55 | jelly-home | sladi_: are you on console or using some terminal emulator? |
| 21:25.43 | sladi_ | jelly-home: I haven't changed it now. :) I'm on console. I see now a webpage has some special charachters but not all. |
| 21:25.57 | jelly-home | sladi_: I'm using is the URL public? |
| 21:26.09 | jelly-home | er... sladi_: is the URL public? |
| 21:26.41 | sladi_ | jelly-home: :) yes, www.ptt.rs |
| 21:26.59 | jelly-home | sladi_: jel na cirilici? :-) |
| 21:27.20 | sladi_ | jelly-home: latinica :) |
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| 21:27.44 | jelly-home | sladi_: don't have an etch console nearby at the moment |
| 21:28.40 | sladi_ | jelly-home: the special s character is there but c seem wrong :) |
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| 21:29.16 | sladi_ | jelly-home: the google search description got the s wrong too though :p |
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| 21:29.55 | jelly-home | sladi_: yeah, sh and zh exist in latin1 as well |
| 21:30.34 | jelly-home | at least I know you're looking for the same subset of "special" chars I usually use |
| 21:31.06 | jelly-home | ... and I'm not going to be of help here, my console is broken too |
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| 21:31.30 | jelly-home | (can't even see the sdccz as they're typed) |
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| 21:32.21 | sp3wn | Hi, I have a silly question: does debian lenny come with the tools make & gcc? The LiveCD does not and I am running the liveCD first to make sure I can get my usb wireless working if I install lenny |
| 21:32.39 | sp3wn | I had to plug in to my ethernet and I am installing make & gcc |
| 21:32.57 | sladi_ | jelly-home: I see. :) |
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| 21:33.11 | sp3wn | And GCC fails to install with aptitude on the liveCD |
| 21:33.17 | sp3wn | :( |
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| 21:34.09 | dr_anomaly | sp3wn: There's a program called 'tasksel', one of the options, IIRC, is 'development'. It installs a bunch of development software. Tasksel normally runs during installation, too. So if it's not on the liveCD, you'll have a chance to install it. |
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| 21:35.05 | dr_anomaly | sp3wn: Yeah... you can't install anything with a liveCD, unless you install the software onto a USB drive or something. |
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| 21:35.32 | sp3wn | I accidentally left a step out. I need make and gcc to compile my usb wireless drivers. You can install stuff on a livecd...it won't be on the HD I know, but I should be able to get make & gcc working |
| 21:35.51 | dr_anomaly | Also, Debian kicks ass. :) I'm forced to use CentOS at work. |
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| 21:36.21 | sp3wn | GCC failed because the wget resulted in a 404 |
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| 21:36.57 | dr_anomaly | sp3wn: I've never used any sort of debian livecd, so I can't really help you with that, but if you get the CD's and perform an actual install, and make sure you check 'development' when tasksel runs, you'll get the toolchain. |
| 21:37.07 | sp3wn | hm ok... |
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| 21:37.33 | sp3wn | dr_anomaly: I really wanted to make sure my usb wireless will work with debian before I install...I am switching from Ubuntu but I need my wireless |
| 21:37.56 | dr_anomaly | If it works in ubuntu, it should work in Debian, but there might be extra steps involved. |
| 21:38.58 | dr_anomaly | what kind of USB wireless is it? |
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| 21:39.01 | sp3wn | ralink |
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| 21:39.26 | sp3wn | i can run it through module or ndiswrapper |
| 21:39.44 | mordocai | Anyone know if there is anyway to install sdl >= 1.2.7 using a .deb package? 1.2.7, 1.2.8, and 1.2.9 will not compile on my system... it's asking for asm/page.h |
| 21:40.05 | sp3wn | i like that lenny actually comes with a bunch of ralink compatibility but they have all but the one specific driver that works for my card :( |
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| 21:40.37 | dr_anomaly | sp3wn: Ralink GPL'd their drivers. Doing some quick googling tells me that Debian Lenny should fully support your card. |
| 21:41.01 | sp3wn | that's good |
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| 21:41.08 | dr_anomaly | sp3wn: So you can install 4.0r1 (etch) and then upgrade to lenny, and the stock kernel should support your card. |
| 21:41.19 | sp3wn | the lenny livecd doesn't |
| 21:41.23 | dr_anomaly | or r2 or r3 or whatever it's at now. |
| 21:41.29 | dr_anomaly | hrm... :/ Dunno. |
| 21:41.30 | sp3wn | it has rt2x00 and rt2500 but not rt73 |
| 21:41.39 | dr_anomaly | oh! |
| 21:41.39 | dr_anomaly | okay. |
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| 21:41.48 | sp3wn | i have rt73 anyway...i just need to install it on debian |
| 21:42.11 | sp3wn | i read that installing etch and upgrading to lenny is a bad idea |
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| 21:43.21 | jelly-home | sladi_: try: dpkg-reconfigure console-setup |
| 21:43.27 | dr_anomaly | sp3wn: Why? I've done that plenty of times without problems. |
| 21:43.58 | sp3wn | I don't know why; I was reading guides on installing debian before I do it and one of them said that. |
| 21:44.13 | sladi_ | jelly-home: will do. I just remembered console-tools |
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| 21:45.27 | jelly-home | sladi_: the usual suggestion is "dpkg-reconfigure console-data"; however reconfiguring console-setup gives a lot more options, one of them being UTF-8 I/O enabling |
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| 21:51.31 | sp3wn | dr_anomaly: Ok, I am going to upgrade from etch anyway because I'm getting a bunch of 404s getting build essentials off the lenny repos |
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| 21:59.27 | jberg | hey, im going to set up a file/backup server with debian. i have two sata 750 gb harddisks with raid 1. im wondering how to partition my disks though, and if i should use lvm (what exactly is it?) but i don't know if i should mount a huge partition on /storage and put symlinks to /storage from /home/{users} or just have a big /home partition.. what is "normal"? |
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| 22:09.39 | adnc | does someone know if there is a backported version of c-client? |
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| 22:11.13 | abrotman | you could make your own |
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| 22:11.27 | cbeok | Can anybody explain to me what happens to a collection of disks at the very moment it becomes organized into a RAID 5 configuration? I'm interested in possibly reversing this process on four disks in an attempt to recover some data. Any clues? |
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| 22:11.39 | adnc | abrotman: was your comment for me? |
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| 22:13.29 | ice799 | Hi - I am new to debian and I see that under /etc/ there are cron.daily, cron.hourly, etc -- but when I run crontab -e as root I don't see any entries for running cron.daily, cron.hourly, etc. How can I figure out which user has crontab entries for the hourly, daily, etc cron scripts? |
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| 22:13.35 | ice799 | (I want to see/adjust the times/dates that the weekly and monthly scripts execute) |
| 22:13.57 | sladi_ | jelly-home: elinks seems to work now :) Google is odd becuase 'shpanjolski' is there while 'upisi se' seems wrong? ptt site is OK however. I ran reconfigure console-setup |
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| 22:16.08 | jelly-home | sladi_: google translations could be incomplete |
| 22:16.49 | Winnipeger | Hi, I've got a desktop running Debian Lenny with a printer, a laptop running Lenny, and a Macbook running OSX. I want to be able to backup files from my Debian laptop to the desktop, and also access the desktop from anywhere in case I need to fix something. I also want to be able to share the printer. MY thinking is that ssh can do all of this, and that i don't need samba at all, or nfs. But other than knowing the word, ssh, I' |
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| 22:17.41 | rhodescus | ice799: those are system cron entries. You really shouldn't mess with those unless you want to change the default behavior of a server |
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| 22:18.16 | rhodescus | ice799: each user (including root) has their own separate crontab (use crontab -l as the user) |
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| 22:19.24 | sladi_ | jelly-home: I see. Elinks seems to have rendering problems sometimes. :) |
| 22:19.35 | jelly-home | mhm. |
| 22:19.44 | rhodescus | ice799: look in /var/spool/cron/crontabs to see user's crontabs |
| 22:19.52 | abrotman | adnc: yes |
| 22:20.00 | sladi_ | jelly-home: Thanks! :) |
| 22:20.33 | adnc | abrotman: can you tell me more please |
| 22:20.36 | Winnipeger | Also... I'm wondering what will happen because I've created a user on the desktop that has the same name as the user on the laptop, but they belong to different groups. I'm wondering if I'm going to be creating all kinds of permission problems. |
| 22:20.46 | abrotman | !tell adnc about ssb |
| 22:21.18 | rhodescus | ice799: then edit /etc/crontab |
| 22:21.22 | ice799 | ice799: yeah I want to change the default behavior |
| 22:21.24 | ice799 | err |
| 22:21.30 | ice799 | rhodescus: I want to change the default behavior |
| 22:21.44 | adnc | !tell adnc backports c-client |
| 22:21.49 | rhodescus | ice799: yea I just saw that, edit /etc/crontab to do that |
| 22:21.50 | ice799 | rhodescus: I just dont know which user's crontab has the entries for the daily, weekly, etc cron scripts |
| 22:21.55 | ice799 | ok |
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| 22:22.11 | mih | i need a daemon which will mail me if my ide drive fails or is about to fail using SMART technology, which one do you recommend? |
| 22:22.30 | rhodescus | ice799: that's cron's crontab :) |
| 22:23.31 | adnc | abrotman: is itthen called libc-client2002edebian or is it then called different? |
| 22:23.48 | ice799 | rhodescus: the weird thing is, if i cat /etc/passwd i dont have a 'cron' user (I'm on etch, btw) |
| 22:24.20 | rhodescus | ice799: yes, it seems to run as root |
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| 22:25.54 | ice799 | rhodescus: yeah but if i run crontab -e as root, root's crontab is empty too. |
| 22:26.36 | rhodescus | ice799: yes, root's crontab is for the user root. |
| 22:26.44 | rhodescus | ice799: the user root is used to run the system crontabs |
| 22:27.00 | rhodescus | ice799: there's a difference |
| 22:27.11 | rhodescus | ice799: the system crontabs are for maintaining installed software |
| 22:27.16 | rhodescus | ice799: and those get run as root |
| 22:27.38 | rhodescus | ice799: but, if the user root needs to install custom software, then root has its own crontab. |
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| 22:28.29 | rhodescus | ice799: but, cron will switch to a user before running a crontab, so for security, custom software should be installed under a user other than root. |
| 22:29.27 | rhodescus | ice799: if you look through the Debian system crontabs, you'll see that services get started as those service's users through the start-stop-daemon utility. |
| 22:29.51 | adnc | abrotman: can you give me a hand, i get this error when calling apt-get build-dep libc-client2002edebian |
| 22:29.54 | adnc | E: Build-Depends dependency for uw-imap cannot be satisfied because no available versions of p |
| 22:29.56 | ice799 | rhodescus: thanks for the info |
| 22:30.20 | rhodescus | ice799: you're welcome |
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| 22:33.00 | abrotman | adnc: such as ? (i'm also about to leave work) |
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| 22:33.38 | adnc | abrotman: i get the above error |
| 22:33.49 | ilaiho | No luck with Crossover either. |
| 22:33.51 | abrotman | adnc: except it's truncated |
| 22:33.54 | rhodescus | ice799: if you run crontab -e, as root, a crontab titled 'root' will show up as /var/spool/cron/crontabs/root |
| 22:33.56 | ilaiho | It shoudl be the ATI driver |
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| 22:34.08 | rhodescus | ice799: after you save it |
| 22:34.09 | adnc | abrotman: i didnt understand |
| 22:34.14 | adnc | abrotman: what can ido |
| 22:34.28 | abrotman | the error you gave above is truncated |
| 22:34.40 | adnc | abrotman: ohh, moment please |
| 22:34.55 | adnc | E: Build-Depends dependency for uw-imap cannot be satisfied because no available versions of p satisfy version requirements |
| 22:35.03 | jelly-home | p? |
| 22:35.47 | adnc | abrotman: i get this when i say apt-get build-dep libc-client2002edebian |
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| 22:35.49 | jelly-home | adnc: ... versions of p ? |
| 22:35.59 | ilaiho | I have same problems with FlightGear too |
| 22:36.07 | ilaiho | It is the native Linux version. |
| 22:36.17 | ilaiho | Graphics look very silly. |
| 22:36.29 | abrotman | versions of "p" |
| 22:36.36 | adnc | jelly-home: version of package debhelper |
| 22:36.43 | abrotman | !tell adnc about backports |
| 22:36.47 | abrotman | adnc: check backports.org first |
| 22:37.08 | jelly-home | yeah, you're likely to find updated dephelper there |
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| 22:38.03 | ilaiho | I hate properitary drivers. |
| 22:38.09 | ilaiho | They are very very poor quality |
| 22:38.28 | jelly-home | would suggest dovecot instead of uw-imap, anyway |
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| 22:39.25 | Roland- | hello, problem: Package flashplugin-nonfree is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 22:39.29 | Roland- | using 5.0 |
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| 22:42.28 | Bill8[ITA] | ciao |
| 22:42.31 | adnc | do i have to get libc-client2002edebian or will the package be called different? |
| 22:42.38 | Bill8[ITA] | !lista |
| 22:42.51 | jelly-home | !list |
| 22:42.51 | dpkg | one warez list being sent to jelly-home |
| 22:43.14 | Bill8[ITA] | !list |
| 22:43.14 | dpkg | one warez list being sent to bill8[ita] |
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| 22:43.32 | flami | !moo |
| 22:43.32 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you could be too; join us all! type apt-get moo. aplay /usr/lib/openoffice/share/gallery/sounds/cow.wav |
| 22:43.34 | helo | how do i get svnserve to start automatically? |
| 22:43.35 | blairsooley | moo: os: Microsoft Windows XP Professional - Service Pack 3 (5.1.2600) up: 21hrs 7mins 21secs cpu: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E4500 @ 2.20GHz (x86) at 2208MHz (100% Load) gfx: NVIDIA res: x bit Hz ram: 1264/2047MB (61.75%) [||||||----] hdd: C:\ 9.57GB/9.77GB D:\ 167.16GB/455.98GB net: Marvell Yukon 88E8056 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller - Packet Scheduler Miniport - 100MB/s 985.18MB In 1.26GB Out |
| 22:44.02 | Bill8[ITA] | !lista |
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| 22:44.50 | stew | blairsooley: please turn that off |
| 22:44.55 | adnc | i get this E: Build-dependencies for libc-client2002edebian could not be satisfied. |
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| 22:45.06 | ilaiho | My next machine will be with Intel graphics |
| 22:45.07 | adnc | how can i manage this dependency now |
| 22:45.34 | adnc | the debhelper is upgraded from backports but still i get the above |
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| 22:48.46 | EugenMayer | guys what should taht mean ( vsftpd, cant upload files ) http://pastebin.com/m632b7e76 |
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| 22:50.02 | adnc | is my problem so obvious simple that i should be able to find quick answer in the documentations, which i couldnt yet or has just noone time |
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| 22:51.35 | pickcoder | is HAL needed? |
| 22:52.08 | pickcoder | it's listed as optional |
| 22:52.24 | pickcoder | but if I remove it will my esata drive be detected via hotplug? |
| 22:52.39 | pickcoder | I think it's causing my fax board problems |
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| 22:53.34 | qpdb | there are a lot of files on my ext3 filesystem which got a "black square with white ? in it"-symbol in its filename, is there a scripts/tool/thing that searches directorys for such broken filenames and cleans them out? |
| 22:53.59 | zinx | qpdb: depends on your definition of broken |
| 22:54.18 | zinx | qpdb: there may be one that checks to see if filenames match a particular character encoding, to the extent possible |
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| 22:55.57 | qpdb | zinx, where to get this? |
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| 22:58.20 | qpdb | zinx, i found http://www.j3e.de/linux/convmv/man/ .. but how to figure out whats the current encoding? |
| 22:58.39 | Roland- | i firmware-iwlwifi - Binary firmware for Intel Wireless 3945 and 4965 |
| 22:58.47 | LinuS | hi (the name is refered to linus van pelt :P) |
| 22:58.47 | Roland- | hey what about the 5000 ones?! |
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| 22:59.36 | adnc | could someone help me interpreting this Note, selecting libpam0g-dev instead of libpam-dev |
| 22:59.45 | zinx | qpdb: find an encoding where it looks right :x |
| 22:59.48 | LinuS | hmm, my apt-get is ty |
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| 22:59.57 | adnc | i get this when calling apt-get build-dep libc-client2002edebian |
| 23:00.00 | zinx | qpdb: it's probably UTF-8 if you're getting a box, but it could be anything. |
| 23:00.17 | LinuS | hmm, my apt-get is trying to download packages just from a cd, how can i tell it to download them from the internet? |
| 23:00.21 | zinx | qpdb: if it is UTF-8, i would recommend against translating it to anything other than 7-bit ascii |
| 23:00.46 | stew | LinuS: remove the cdrom lines from sources.list and add debian network mirrors: /msg dpkg sources.list |
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| 23:01.11 | LinuS | tnks |
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| 23:01.51 | stew | adnc: in etch, libpam-dev is a virtual package, and libpam0g-dev is a real package providing the virtual package |
| 23:02.04 | white_eagle | hey, how can I upgrade everything EXCEPT the openarena and openarena-data packages so my upgrade to be smaller (i'm capped) using the console? |
| 23:02.16 | zinx | qpdb: you may consider using a terminal or file management utility with better font support, or installing some unicode fonts |
| 23:02.24 | pickcoder | I think hald is remembering a similar device at the same ttyS but it's not the same chipset |
| 23:02.29 | stew | white_eagle: /msg dpkg hold |
| 23:02.49 | white_eagle | steve: using apt-get upgrade |
| 23:03.08 | stew | white_eagle: put the package on hold before running upgrade |
| 23:03.09 | Roland- | hey, what is the package name with kernel sources ? |
| 23:03.11 | white_eagle | oh |
| 23:03.12 | white_eagle | thanks |
| 23:03.28 | K_Sakura | linux-source, I think. |
| 23:03.31 | white_eagle | much more helpful than #ubuntu :P |
| 23:03.40 | stew | Roland-: linux-source-$version ; but why do you need the source (most people who ask how to get the source really need headers not source) |
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| 23:04.58 | pickcoder | how the heck do I remove a device from the hal DB |
| 23:05.02 | pickcoder | google is no help |
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| 23:05.37 | qpdb | zinx, i just guessed iso-8859-15 and it seems to work =) |
| 23:05.42 | LinuS | ok, it worked, now i'm stuck on "packet mdadm not found", can it be because i misspelled the name or is it really obsolete like apt seems to think? |
| 23:05.52 | d-b | pickcoder: ... interesting idea. are you sure you can't do something with udev.. |
| 23:05.54 | K_Sakura | For some (unknown to me) reason aumix stopped working (complaining that alsa's mixer settings existed), and while trying to fix it, I broke things so I don't get any sound. |
| 23:05.58 | stew | LinuS: did you run apttiude update? |
| 23:06.06 | pickcoder | d-b: lshal shows an old board that isn't there anymore |
| 23:06.07 | LinuS | whoops. |
| 23:06.12 | LinuS | no, indeed |
| 23:06.14 | pickcoder | a 2-port version of a different type is there now |
| 23:06.36 | LinuS | i just ran apt-get update |
| 23:06.43 | jogla | can i install an rpm file in debian? |
| 23:06.47 | Roland- | stew, I need to setup wireless I have the 5100 wifi card... |
| 23:06.52 | pickcoder | if I install that board in the PCI address list first.. the new 2-port board works! |
| 23:06.54 | d-b | !alien |
| 23:06.55 | dpkg | it has been said that alien is a program which allows one to convert from one package format to another: slackware to redhat, redhat to debian, debian to slackware, redhat to slackware, etc... it can handle stampede .slp packages as well, or some slimy, green, bug-like, creepy creature from outerspace that came to Earth to have sex with agent Scully, or at http://kitenet.net/programs/alien/ |
| 23:06.57 | pickcoder | pulls out hair |
| 23:06.58 | stew | jogla: you can, but you should only do so as a last resort. what are you trying to sinatll? |
| 23:07.10 | jogla | stew: vmware |
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| 23:07.38 | stew | Roland-: then you likely just need "linux-headers-$(uname -r)" so that you can compile the drivers against your already compiled kernel. you'd use kernel source if you were going to recompile the entire kernel |
| 23:07.40 | jogla | stew: i need to test some windows smb things, especially if they work with my linux/smb/cups host |
| 23:07.51 | jogla | it does not work with virtual box |
| 23:07.56 | stew | jogla: there must be a better way, ask #vmware |
| 23:08.01 | d-b | jogla: should.... |
| 23:08.08 | d-b | virtualbox does most things |
| 23:08.24 | jogla | it can't connect to my smaba share |
| 23:08.34 | jogla | it shares my ip |
| 23:08.34 | d-b | jogla: it works for me |
| 23:08.53 | jogla | d-b: How did you set up you rnetwork configuration? |
| 23:08.53 | d-b | jogla: no that's your setup. you can make it different. |
| 23:09.01 | d-b | google for it jogla |
| 23:09.09 | d-b | virtualbox does work. |
| 23:09.17 | jogla | ehh, i did google |
| 23:09.21 | d-b | really ? |
| 23:09.31 | jogla | d-b: yes, really |
| 23:09.33 | d-b | ask in #virtualbox |
| 23:09.38 | pickcoder | I get LSR safety check enforcement errors on the serial ports that don't exist anymore |
| 23:09.40 | LinuS | i have now run aptitude update but the apt-get message of before didn't change |
| 23:09.50 | jogla | i think i need a bridged network, with is just a mess to set up |
| 23:09.53 | LinuS | ("mdadm not found, is obsolete or missing") |
| 23:10.07 | pickcoder | I dunno why I didn't consider this before I upgraded to lenny |
| 23:10.12 | stew | LinuS: show us the output of "apt-cache policy" ; use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
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| 23:10.44 | d-b | jogla: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox is pretty good |
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| 23:13.37 | Roland- | stew any idea how to compile the drivers? I really need wireless |
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| 23:14.12 | dmoerner | Roland-, they have been merged in the mainline since the 2.6.27 rcs |
| 23:15.21 | Roland- | well it sees it in lspci but wlan0 is nowhere to find. |
| 23:15.31 | LinuS | stew: erm, i'm unable to paste it, since it is on another box |
| 23:15.34 | Roland- | Linux mcc 2.6.26-1-686 #1 SMP Thu Oct 9 15:18:09 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 23:16.00 | LinuS | what are the interesting lines? |
| 23:16.07 | stew | Roland-: i don't know what a 5100 is |
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| 23:16.19 | EugenMayer | i use repquota to show me all quotas. I did a filesystem restore today and now i cant upload with one user web1admin ( with ftp ) thats the only user missing in repquota. Any ideas? |
| 23:16.28 | stew | Roland-: who makes the chipset? do you know the name of the driver? |
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| 23:16.58 | stew | LinuS: can you show us the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list? can you upload that file to http://paste.debian.net ? |
| 23:17.16 | Roland- | Linux mcc 2.6.26-1-686 #1 SMP Thu Oct 9 15:18:09 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 23:17.20 | Roland- | sorry |
| 23:17.21 | Roland- | Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless WiFi Link 5100 |
| 23:17.26 | Roland- | it's a sony vaio |
| 23:17.29 | white_eagle | thanks very much |
| 23:17.31 | white_eagle | bye |
| 23:17.33 | white_eagle | :) |
| 23:17.41 | Roland- | I upgraded the firmware is in /usr/lib/firmware |
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| 23:17.57 | Roland- | I mean /lib/firmware |
| 23:18.01 | LinuS | stew: erm, no. but i can tell you that a part from the local ../dpkg/.. folder there is just security.debian.org |
| 23:18.22 | stew | LinuS: you need to add a debian mirror: /msg dpkg sources.list ; /msg dpkg mirrors |
| 23:18.40 | stew | LinuS: but i'm not sure what you mean by "the local ../dpkg/.. folder" |
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| 23:18.50 | LinuS | the one who is on my box |
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| 23:18.55 | LinuS | and not on the net |
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| 23:19.45 | lvh | hi |
| 23:20.13 | lvh | ov51x_jpeg issue. VLC works fine (capture directly from v4l device), but camorama, amsn and kopete all have garbled images. Anyone have a clue? |
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| 23:21.35 | paxcoder | lvh: i use the same driver. no chance for it to work afaik |
| 23:21.56 | Roland- | the modules are missing, the wireless ones, I checked /lib/modules/2.6.26-1-686/kernel/net/wireless and all I can see is cfg80211.ko |
| 23:22.23 | paxcoder | lvh: wait. you're saying it actually displays images? |
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| 23:23.18 | lvh | paxcoder: yes |
| 23:23.23 | lvh | paxcoder: it works fine in vlc. |
| 23:23.27 | paxcoder | lvh: nice. how about flash? |
| 23:23.49 | lvh | paxcoder: sure you're using ov51x_jpeg and not just ov511 that comes with the kernel by default? |
| 23:23.53 | lvh | paxcoder: flash? |
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| 23:24.34 | paxcoder | lvh: yeah. / does flash work? |
| 23:24.40 | paxcoder | *camera with flash |
| 23:24.41 | lvh | paxcoder: what flash? |
| 23:24.49 | lvh | paxcoder: mine doesnt have flash |
| 23:24.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | slightly wonders what language "Verlassend" was |
| 23:25.00 | paxcoder | lvh: no, flash as in adobe flash |
| 23:25.07 | lvh | CutMeOwnThroat: german |
| 23:25.32 | lvh | paxcoder: oh, no idea, sorry -- havent tried yet. Cant get it to work in amsn/kopete so im not hopeful |
| 23:25.35 | lvh | paxcoder: or camorama |
| 23:25.38 | lvh | paxcoder: or gqcam |
| 23:25.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | lvh, not proper one, though... but perhaps it's proper usage in a related language |
| 23:25.42 | lvh | paxcoder: but vlc works fine wtf |
| 23:25.47 | jogla | CutMeOwnThroat: 'Leaving' |
| 23:26.50 | pickcoder | d-b: what would you suggest doing in udev? |
| 23:27.04 | pickcoder | I would assume that the new hardware would work just like the old |
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| 23:27.10 | pickcoder | it doesn't for some reason |
| 23:27.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | you wouldn't say that using proper German... but perhaps it was really some guy trying to translate "leaving" .... localization can suck so much :) |
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| 23:28.21 | Roland- | Intel 5100 and 5300 : not supported currently (module iwlagn is planned for kernel 2.6.27, see 501157). |
| 23:28.30 | Roland- | ahhhhhhhhhhhhh no way |
| 23:28.55 | ice799 | Roland-: you can build your own kernel and include those modules |
| 23:29.48 | Roland- | yes I can but that means lot of work and reinstall ati drivers and oh much much more |
| 23:29.58 | Roland- | can I build the standalone module from kernel source? |
| 23:30.16 | pickcoder | for your current kernel you can |
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| 23:30.28 | stew | Roland-: you installed the non-free ati drivers? why? |
| 23:30.43 | KDesk | hi, which is better, apt-* or aptitude? |
| 23:30.49 | Roland- | no I installed the free ones |
| 23:30.58 | Roland- | but I am sure they won't math my new sexy kernel |
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| 23:31.06 | stew | Roland-: then you don't have to resintall them |
| 23:31.33 | stew | KDesk: in general aptitude, /msg dpkg aptitude |
| 23:31.39 | stew | KDesk: err, /msg dpkg why aptitude |
| 23:31.40 | K_Sakura | KDesk: For quick command line actions, apt-get. For searches through the apt repositories aptitude. |
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| 23:32.26 | Roland- | can I configure any kernel ? |
| 23:32.34 | Roland- | I mean from kernel.org ? |
| 23:33.05 | pipeline | you could, but why would you want to do that |
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| 23:34.12 | Roland- | I just explained I need the wifi 5100 card to work. |
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| 23:35.03 | Roland- | also how do I see current kernel config ? so I will use the current config ? |
| 23:35.37 | chomwitt | is there uvc (usb video class) driver in the newest kernels or i have to compile the linux-uvc-source package? |
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| 23:36.07 | KDesk | stew, K_Sakura thanks :) |
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| 23:46.34 | K_Sakura | I've found part of my problem, I'm missing /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer -- MAKEDEV won't work (complains about the presence of udev), and I don't know how to add a device in udev.... |
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| 23:54.22 | JordiGH | Guys, this is bad. |
| 23:54.24 | JordiGH | My emacs is segfaulting. |
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| 23:54.35 | JordiGH | This reduces my computing ability by about 80%. |
| 23:54.46 | JordiGH | I even tried opening vim to see if I could edit anything out of my .emacs |
| 23:55.19 | jogla | JordiGH: with a little time, vim will make you be 180% percent productive |
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| 23:56.18 | JordiGH | jogla: Nonsense. vim doesn't have that great productivity tool. AUCTeX. And tetris. |
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| 23:56.30 | DukeDrake | hi |
| 23:56.40 | DukeDrake | probably beginners question ... : |
| 23:57.02 | DukeDrake | how can I install a module? I need the 'tun' moduel in order for openvpn to work |
| 23:57.19 | jogla | JordiGH: http://www.dina.kvl.dk/~abraham/religion/vi-tutorial.html |
| 23:57.24 | DukeDrake | modprobe says "Can't locate module tun" |
| 23:57.24 | JordiGH | jogla: Like I said, I already soiled my cerebellum trying to edit my .emacs with vim. |
| 23:57.34 | jogla | JordiGH: that a first introdcution for people that used to use emacs |
| 23:57.37 | DukeDrake | how can I install/add it? |
| 23:57.55 | themill | DukeDrake: what's the output of: uname -r |
| 23:58.03 | JordiGH | jogla: I'm not doing vim, dude. It doesn't have AUCTeX. And it never will, because it goes against vim philosophy. |
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| 23:58.07 | DukeDrake | 2.4.21 |
| 23:58.47 | DukeDrake | .oO(don't tell me I'm screwed ... don't tell me I'm screwed ... ) |
| 23:58.53 | themill | DukeDrake: yikes... |
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| 23:59.11 | jogla | JordiGH: whot so good about auctex? |
| 23:59.12 | K_Sakura | DukeDrake: (I don't know what tun is), but try looking in /lib/modules/$kernelname/kernel |
| 23:59.32 | DukeDrake | K_Sakura: already did, it's not there. |
| 23:59.43 | K_Sakura | What is it a module for? |
| 23:59.51 | JordiGH | jogla: This: http://www.gnu.org/software/auctex/img/preview-screenshot.png |
| 23:59.55 | themill | DukeDrake: I take it you're running sarge then? |
