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| 00:06.40 | allaun | hellos |
| 00:07.02 | gonsar | hi, my graphics card is not working with nvidia-legacy-96xx module, isn't there legacy-71xx for lenny? thanks |
| 00:08.19 | solid_liq | how do I generate a list of all installed packages on my debian system again? I'm on sid, and don't want to be, but I want a list of programs to install after I switch to a more stable debian (in an hour or so) |
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| 00:09.21 | dustybin | what has debian renamed httpd to? |
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| 00:10.36 | abrotman | !tell solid_liq about installed |
| 00:10.45 | abrotman | !tell solid_liq about debian clone |
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| 00:12.40 | themill | dustybin: which httpd? (answer that question and then think about your answer some more) |
| 00:13.23 | esthar | I upgraded to X.Org 7.4 in experimental, but now would like to smoothly downgrade back to X.Org 7.3 in sid.... I upgraded with by doing apt-get install -t experimental xorg |
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| 00:15.07 | dustybin | themill: the guys in apache want me to issue this command: httpd -S |
| 00:15.52 | dustybin | i have a apache configuration problem! |
| 00:16.16 | themill | dustybin: apache2 -S |
| 00:16.28 | dustybin | thanks! :) |
| 00:16.55 | themill | dustybin: you can also "apache2ctl configtest" |
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| 00:21.27 | dustybin | themill: aye thanks |
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| 00:24.00 | abrotman | esthar: the best you can hope for is to remove all the x libs and reinstall X .. downgrading isn't really something apt does well |
| 00:24.28 | esthar | abrotman: When you say x libs... do you mean essentially any X11-related package? |
| 00:24.35 | abrotman | roughlu |
| 00:24.44 | abrotman | or you can just keep using 1.5 and wait for it to get to sid |
| 00:24.49 | themill | you could try aptitude install package=version to save removing everything that depends on X |
| 00:24.59 | esthar | Well |
| 00:25.06 | esthar | My objective is to install fglrx |
| 00:25.10 | jelly-home | esthar: you can try aptitude install xorg/unstable, or similar |
| 00:25.24 | esthar | Because radeon driver cannot play projectM visualiser with good enough performance. |
| 00:26.23 | esthar | The fglrx in Debian does not work with X.Org 7.4 |
| 00:26.27 | esthar | But the one in Ubuntu does... |
| 00:26.39 | esthar | I was also considering pulling the fglrx Ubuntu package and seeing if that worked |
| 00:28.01 | esthar | I don't know what's more painful: that, or gutting X11 entirely and reinstalling X.ORg 7.3 from sid just to get Debian fglrx packages |
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| 00:32.28 | tazle | hm, I wonder what's wrong with my libnss-ldap |
| 00:33.18 | tazle | getent passwd shows users from LDAP when run as root, but not when run as regular user. As a regular user it does not even initiate an LDAP query (nscd is disabled, so it shouldn't have effect here) |
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| 00:35.03 | delight | does somebody know why env-variables defined in /etc/environment ain't interpreted for the root-user ? and how to make root use them ? |
| 00:35.04 | dustybin | if one chown 0, that means root:root, one learns something everyday :) |
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| 00:40.42 | ryanhaigh | hi all, what would be the best way of recompiling debians kernel, i want to keep it as close to the standard lenny kernel as possible, only changing CONFIG_SND_DEBUG to enable logging of xruns |
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| 00:41.20 | ryanhaigh | i know there are many howtos but most of them use vanilla sources |
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| 00:41.35 | Lidi | hi all |
| 00:42.22 | Lidi | im having prolems to install acx100 with my dwl-g520+ |
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| 00:43.53 | Lidi | i have my card working |
| 00:44.08 | Lidi | but i can't configure it, often have same configuration -> http://rafb.net/p/NmK9EO99.html |
| 00:44.14 | Lidi | anybody can help me??? |
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| 00:44.33 | BUMBACL0T | hey, i'm running crontab and i'm trying to execute this file that requires 'sudo' or root access, how do i do this? should i just add 'sudo' before it? but that requires an input (password) |
| 00:45.05 | valdyn | BUMBACL0T: it does not, if you set that up |
| 00:45.47 | themill | you're probably running the cron job as the wrong user |
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| 00:47.04 | valdyn | BUMBACL0T: you should probably make this a system cron job, see /etc/cron.* |
| 00:47.10 | Lidi | anybody found any error in my configuration? |
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| 00:48.07 | BUMBACL0T | [19:44] <fow> BUMBACL0T, use root's crontab |
| 00:48.46 | BUMBACL0T | but i don't think that's safe though, is it? |
| 00:49.34 | valdyn | BUMBACL0T: why would it not be safe? |
| 00:49.56 | themill | !wayttd BUMBACL0T |
| 00:49.56 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, BUMBACL0T? |
| 00:50.06 | BUMBACL0T | just trying to execute pisg |
| 00:50.08 | BUMBACL0T | :D |
| 00:50.15 | valdyn | !pisg |
| 00:50.15 | dpkg | pisg is, like, an open-source IRC statistics program, written in perl (http://pisg.sourceforge.net) |
| 00:50.20 | BUMBACL0T | every 30 mins |
| 00:50.32 | valdyn | BUMBACL0T: why the hell does it need root at all? |
| 00:50.42 | themill | and why is sudo involved in this at all? |
| 00:50.46 | valdyn | BUMBACL0T: like you cant make that log file readable by a user? |
| 00:51.02 | BUMBACL0T | no, i publish it |
| 00:51.20 | valdyn | BUMBACL0T: whatever, does not need root |
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| 00:51.35 | BUMBACL0T | it's in /var/www/stats |
| 00:51.49 | themill | BUMBACL0T: so change the perms on that directory |
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| 00:52.24 | Mikaze | Greetings. |
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| 00:57.36 | TurboBee | can someone help me with mounting a luks encrypted partition? I have the password and I think I created the unencrypted mount by typing "cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/hda5 hda5_crypt" |
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| 00:58.01 | TurboBee | I entered my password and it created a device at /dev/mapper/hda5_crypt |
| 00:58.17 | TurboBee | when i go to mount that device it says that I must specify the filesystem type |
| 00:59.01 | Mikaze | How do I run Debian on this machine via Windows on a Mac through a Sparc from this machine? |
| 00:59.47 | TurboBee | or better yet how do i tell what filesystem this device is? |
| 01:00.05 | abrotman | Mikaze: that doesn't even make sense |
| 01:00.34 | Mikaze | lol |
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| 01:03.05 | Mikaze | TurboBee: Sorry. I've never worked with crypted file systems, myself. |
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| 01:04.25 | TurboBee | I figured out what the problem was |
| 01:04.36 | TurboBee | I had lvm setup on top of the crypted volumes |
| 01:04.36 | TurboBee | XD |
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| 01:20.42 | jonathon | i have x11 installed now and i am in x11 terminal sshed into my deb box, i tried to get a graphical program running but it wont work. |
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| 01:22.09 | jonathon | i done "open /usr/temp/games/sol and open sol" but nothing. |
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| 01:23.15 | Crazykowalewski | Hello |
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| 01:25.21 | abrotman | !tell jonathon about sshx |
| 01:25.24 | abrotman | i think ? |
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| 01:26.51 | jonathon | abrotman, thanks. |
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| 01:27.46 | wald0 | how i can change the color of the 777 (permission) folders ? if i unset LS_COLORS i still having colors, not looks like to work with this variable |
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| 01:39.06 | nkuttler | wald0: what does 'type ls' say? |
| 01:40.43 | wald0 | nkuttler: fixed, i need to change the value ow= |
| 01:40.56 | wald0 | aparently if a value is not in my variable, there's defualt ones |
| 01:41.31 | nkuttler | wald0: sure, would be pretty useless else |
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| 01:43.07 | iamwoody | hey guys ,how can i delete a directory which contains a '.'? |
| 01:43.26 | wald0 | iamwoody: \. |
| 01:43.44 | abrotman | or quote it |
| 01:43.44 | iamwoody | thanks |
| 01:43.49 | iamwoody | i know |
| 01:45.07 | iamwoody | when i use a directory which contains a '.',the apache give me a internel error |
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| 01:45.24 | iamwoody | so i dont know why |
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| 01:47.52 | iamwoody | DocumentRoot /dy02/camgle/forum_dz6.1_utf8;<Directory /dy02/camgle/forum_dz6.1_utf8> i need to add a '\' before the '.'? |
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| 01:50.37 | stoned | Good evening |
| 01:50.49 | stoned | iamwoody, no I don't think so |
| 01:51.14 | stoned | iamwoody, I have one of my vhosts to ~/.app1 and ~/.app2 and i didn't need to escape |
| 01:51.24 | kunwon1 | iamwoody, check your webserver logs |
| 01:51.35 | stoned | I'm pretty sure i didn't have to do that |
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| 01:52.28 | imduffy15 | hey guys, I need help with lighttpd and am trying to bind it to a ip but keep getting "getaddrinfo failed: Name or service not known" any ideas? |
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| 01:55.10 | ONX | DCC SEND ADFAGADFHGADFHADFHDAFHDAHADH |
| 01:55.16 | ONX | lol. |
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| 01:55.30 | ONX | >:D |
| 01:56.35 | amphi | hilarious |
| 01:56.55 | ONX | nothing better to do. |
| 01:57.03 | stoned | amphi, pin |
| 01:57.30 | amphi | pon |
| 01:57.36 | stoned | word |
| 01:57.47 | amphi | heh, write 'pon' in arabic |
| 01:58.03 | amphi | 'fun' ? |
| 01:58.13 | stoned | heh |
| 01:58.20 | stoned | I wouldn't know how to translate it |
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| 01:58.44 | lethargik | anyone know a good cvs client for debian? |
| 01:58.59 | *** mode/#debian [+o abrotman] by ChanServ |
| 01:59.33 | abrotman | cvs ? |
| 01:59.58 | *** mode/#debian [+o abrotman] by ChanServ |
| 01:59.58 | stoned | heh |
| 01:59.58 | lethargik | yea I'm trying to download something that says the only way to get it is through their cvs |
| 02:00.05 | *** mode/#debian [-o abrotman] by abrotman |
| 02:00.05 | abrotman | silly lag |
| 02:00.14 | stoned | so install cvs and use it |
| 02:00.35 | stoned | !cvs |
| 02:00.35 | dpkg | cvs is, like, the Concurrent Versions System -- an RCS extension. ; see(cvs-buildpackage ; cvs-pcl ; cvsweb) or a giant pharmacy corporation or developed at http://www.cyclic.com/, or has a faq at http://www.loria.fr/~molli/fom-serve/cache/1.html, or good documentation can be found at http://cvsbook.red-bean.com/cvsbook.html |
| 02:00.46 | lethargik | oooooook |
| 02:00.48 | stoned | uhhh ok |
| 02:00.54 | stoned | lethargik, haha, im right there with ya |
| 02:01.03 | lethargik | :p |
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| 02:02.17 | lethargik | well, it works anyway! Thanx stoned! |
| 02:02.31 | stoned | lethargik, and thank abrotman too |
| 02:02.37 | stoned | and yw |
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| 02:15.18 | iamwoody | stoned thanks , i am not here right now |
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| 02:21.16 | oc80z | oc80z? |
| 02:21.23 | oc80z | dpkg oc80z? |
| 02:21.24 | dpkg | is also a nasal warrior |
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| 02:41.19 | amitz | the CUPS on the one who can see the shared printers, consistently see a printer whose device is file:/dev/null. |
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| 02:44.17 | heroxbd | how can I remove the entire gnome environment? I have to remove packages one by one... |
| 02:44.19 | amitz | this seems to happen after security update |
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| 02:45.21 | liable | !remove gnome |
| 02:45.21 | dpkg | To remove or purge GNOME 1.x, do: aptitude remove libgnome32 libgnome2-common (use purge instead of remove if that's what you want). For GNOME 2.x, use aptitude remove libgnome2-* libbonobo2-* liborbit2* libgnomeui* libgnomevfs2-* (or use purge accordingly). |
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| 02:46.56 | heroxbd | liable: Thanks. |
| 02:47.06 | liable | np |
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| 02:53.16 | heatman | could someone tell me what would be the correct setting of lilo file to start debian lenny on hda1? |
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| 02:56.32 | heroxbd | heatman: Have you STFW? What have you done so far? |
| 02:58.21 | heatman | heroxbd: its just that im sharing a pc with someone else... i use debian while the other person uses slackware. Due to the fact that slackware was installed after debian, grub was replace by lilo, i just need to know what needs to be added in slackware lilo so that i may boot debian |
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| 03:00.56 | jonathon | ok i am at ends wit here. i have vncviewer installed and i even try it through term and get bash vncviewer no such command and when i open the vncviewer gui i get this Exception connecting to 76.97.119.105:5900: |
| 03:00.56 | jonathon | Connection refused |
| 03:00.58 | c0m1 | hi |
| 03:01.09 | c0m1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:01.17 | jonathon | i do not know what else to do here |
| 03:01.23 | jonathon | comgrats c0m1 |
| 03:01.24 | c0m1 | And I wanted to do a debian net install with the small CD |
| 03:01.30 | jonathon | congratz* |
| 03:01.34 | heroxbd | heatman: Then maybe you need to edit lilo.conf (sth. like that) on slackware. |
| 03:01.53 | c0m1 | the BIOS says the processor is a Intel EM64T |
| 03:02.06 | abrotman | c0m1: less enter key please |
| 03:02.17 | c0m1 | is the ia64 iso the one I need? |
| 03:02.27 | abrotman | no .. either i386 or amd64 |
| 03:02.46 | c0m1 | amd64 if I want 64 bit? |
| 03:02.53 | heroxbd | heatman: In my a opinion, why don't you just add a user for your friend instead of adding a whole new distribution? |
| 03:02.57 | amphi | c0m1: yes |
| 03:02.58 | dv_ | EM64T = amd64 |
| 03:03.01 | abrotman | yeah .. but depending on the purpose .. i might use i386 |
| 03:03.02 | dv_ | with minor differences |
| 03:03.26 | heatman | heroxdb: because they want to use slackware... |
| 03:03.32 | c0m1 | dv_: I wasn't sure. I give the amd64 iso a try then. thx |
| 03:03.41 | dv_ | c0m1, just for completion: |
| 03:03.56 | dv_ | ia-64 is a completely new architecture that never really took off |
| 03:04.00 | heroxbd | heatman: Well I am corious why slackware is still using lilo... |
| 03:04.01 | dv_ | maybe except in server land |
| 03:04.02 | abrotman | hardly new |
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| 03:04.12 | dv_ | oh well compared to x86 it is new :) |
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| 03:04.23 | dv_ | anyway amd made x86-64, which is also called amd64 |
| 03:04.31 | tCzern | hi, how can I search for Applications? I have Gnome installed |
| 03:04.36 | dv_ | and sold it to intel, who branded it em64t |
| 03:04.41 | abrotman | they didn't sell it |
| 03:04.49 | abrotman | tCzern: apt-cache search or aptitude search |
| 03:04.54 | dv_ | oh right, they have this agreement |
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| 03:05.05 | tCzern | in terminal? |
| 03:05.08 | heroxbd | heatman: Then you may ask your slackware geek to configure lilo for you. Or you can reinstall grub and add a slackware entry. |
| 03:05.14 | tCzern | I am looking for something in the GUI |
| 03:05.16 | dv_ | anyway intel adopted it |
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| 03:05.57 | amitz | figure out the culprit |
| 03:05.58 | c0m1 | dv_: any problems I should expect? |
| 03:06.01 | heroxbd | tCzern: use gnome-apt of synapte(??? I just forgot the name) |
| 03:06.02 | dv_ | but: ia32 = good old x86 |
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| 03:06.23 | heroxbd | tCzern: of -> or |
| 03:06.29 | dv_ | c0m1, (1) flash plugin wont work directly, you need nspluginwrapper |
| 03:06.32 | abrotman | c0m1: if you're just testing .. i'd use i386 |
| 03:06.39 | amitz | How to delete a printer entry in CUPS of current debian lenny. The entry is strange since the file URI is file:/dev/null. |
| 03:06.45 | tCzern | I am bit lost, I checked with the package manager and there is a lot more installed than I can find in the menus |
| 03:06.46 | dv_ | which runs it as a separate 32bit process ... and the context switch is rather slow |
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| 03:06.54 | dv_ | (2) mplayer win32codecs wont work |
| 03:06.59 | zinx | dv_: (1) Debian automatically uses nspluginwrapper |
| 03:07.00 | c0m1 | abrotman: well, I've used debian on my 32 intel for a few months |
| 03:07.01 | dv_ | you need a 32bit mplayer |
| 03:07.23 | zinx | dv_: (2) win32codecs aren't a part of Debian |
| 03:07.23 | amitz | I can't delete in localhost:631/printers since pressing delete does not do anything |
| 03:07.26 | c0m1 | abrotman: got this new computer that has 4 times the RAM and 1 GHZ more processing speed |
| 03:07.30 | tCzern | will look for synapte, ... thanks |
| 03:07.31 | zinx | dv_: on any architecture |
| 03:07.32 | dv_ | (1) no it doesnt. I installed debian 64bit |
| 03:07.43 | dv_ | and I had to manually install nspluginwrapper afterwards. |
| 03:07.47 | zinx | dv_: yes it does. i am using amd64 debian as we speak |
| 03:07.51 | amitz | since the url become corrupt in that delete link. |
| 03:07.52 | dv_ | and manually run it |
| 03:07.55 | dv_ | me too |
| 03:08.00 | zinx | !depends flashplugin-nonfree |
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| 03:08.10 | zinx | oh wait that's i386 |
| 03:08.13 | dv_ | lenny or etch? |
| 03:08.25 | zinx | Depends: debconf | debconf-2.0, wget, fontconfig, ia32-libs-gtk, lib32z1, nspluginwrapper (>= 0.9.91.4-3), gnupg |
| 03:08.27 | dpkg | flashplugin-nonfree: depends on debconf | debconf-2.0, wget, libgtk2.0-0, fontconfig, libxt6, libxext6, libatk1.0-0, libc6, libcairo2, libexpat1, libfontconfig1, libfreetype6, libglib2.0-0, libice6, libpango1.0-0, libpng12-0, libsm6, libx11-6, libxau6, libxcursor1, libxdmcp6, libxfixes3, libxi6, libxinerama1, libxrandr2, libxrender1, zlib1g, gnupg |
| 03:08.50 | c0m1 | dv_: sorry, were you talking to me? I've been using Lenny |
| 03:08.52 | abrotman | zinx: i think judd can do that for different architecturs |
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| 03:09.14 | zinx | abrotman: interesting. don't know how to use judd though :x |
| 03:09.14 | dv_ | I have no flashplugin-nonfree package available |
| 03:09.25 | abrotman | judd: depends flashplugin-nonfree --arch=amd64 |
| 03:09.36 | abrotman | or i broke it |
| 03:09.39 | zinx | dv_: it's in contrib |
| 03:09.49 | dv_ | I added contrib to the sources.list |
| 03:09.52 | heroxbd | tCzern: pardon me? What do you mean lot more installed? |
| 03:09.53 | abrotman | wouldn't it be in .. non-free ? |
| 03:10.03 | dv_ | non-free as well |
| 03:10.03 | zinx | abrotman: i would have thought so too |
| 03:10.09 | zinx | abrotman: but it appears to be in contrib |
| 03:10.43 | ben | I'l compiling subversion-1.5.4 and got waring "WARNING: APR-UTIL may or may not be using the specified,Berkeley DB at `/usr/'. Using the Berkeley DB" |
| 03:11.08 | zinx | dv_: and here's why you don't see it: http://packages.debian.org/etch-backports/flashplugin-nonfree |
| 03:11.12 | ben | I want compiling subversion-1.5.4 and got waring "WARNING: APR-UTIL may or may not be using the specified,Berkeley DB at `/usr/'. Using the Berkeley DB" |
| 03:11.24 | zinx | dv_: it's in backports for etch |
| 03:11.29 | dv_ | ah. see |
| 03:11.38 | ben | how can i do? |
| 03:11.58 | dv_ | anyway flash and win32codecs usually are the two big problems |
| 03:12.01 | zinx | i have no idea why the heck it's in contrib and not non-free, though |
| 03:12.09 | dv_ | and yes I know win32codecs is not a part of debian |
| 03:12.18 | ben | I want compiling subversion-1.5.4 and got waring "WARNING: APR-UTIL may or may not be using the specified,Berkeley DB at `/usr/'. Using the Berkeley DB" how do? |
| 03:12.32 | zinx | dv_: i have nothing that won't play with 64-bit mplayer, though i -am- using the debian-multimedia stuff |
| 03:12.33 | dv_ | but its a must if you want to see more than 2 random video files |
| 03:12.38 | zinx | dv_: on 64-bit debian, i say again. |
| 03:12.51 | dv_ | zinx, unfortunately the net is riddled with wmv stuff |
| 03:12.51 | abrotman | dv_: maybe you should quit arguing? |
| 03:13.04 | zinx | dv_: i can play wmv fine |
| 03:13.09 | dv_ | I am not arguing?! |
| 03:13.12 | dv_ | zinx, wmv9 |
| 03:13.14 | abrotman | he's telling you it works just fine .. |
| 03:13.24 | zinx | dv_: wmv9 on Debian amd64, using the debian-multimedia repository |
| 03:13.30 | zinx | dv_: and 64-bit mplayer |
| 03:13.36 | zinx | (from the debian-multimedia repository) |
| 03:13.53 | dv_ | me too - but here, I dont have sound |
| 03:13.58 | dv_ | video is fine, but sound isnt |
| 03:14.08 | zinx | /usr/bin/mplayer: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.8, stripped |
| 03:14.10 | dv_ | I had to build a 32 bit version of mplayer and use it with w32codecs |
| 03:14.20 | zinx | i'm assuming that's the 64-bit mplayer anyway. sound works perfectly with everything. |
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| 03:14.52 | ben | I want compiling subversion-1.5.4 and got waring "WARNING: APR-UTIL may or may not be using the specified,Berkeley DB at `/usr/'. Using the Berkeley DB" how do? |
| 03:14.56 | dv_ | "Requested audio codec family [wma9dmo] (afm=dmo) not available" "Requested audio codec family [wmadmo] (afm=dmo) not available" |
| 03:14.58 | abrotman | !tell ben about repeat |
| 03:15.11 | zinx | dv_: perhaps you needed to install the w64codecs package from debian-multimedia. |
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| 03:15.17 | dv_ | i did |
| 03:15.22 | zinx | dv_: WorksForme |
| 03:15.28 | zinx | dv_: you're doing it wrong :P |
| 03:15.43 | dv_ | zined_, keep in mind that wma9 is actually an umbrella term for several codecs |
| 03:15.47 | dv_ | err, codec versions |
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| 03:16.06 | noksious | Hello i run linux ubuntu 7.10 when i try to ./configure my eggdrop i have this error ( http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/69845/ ) can somebody help me please dudes help me :| :( |
| 03:16.14 | abrotman | noksious: go to #ubuntu |
| 03:16.20 | dv_ | well I happen to have videos where this peculiarity causes trouble :( |
| 03:16.24 | noksious | abrotman, nobody is answering me there :| |
| 03:16.35 | abrotman | noksious: then ask ##linux .. Ubuntu is not supported here |
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| 03:18.42 | n3kl | What do I need to read to be able to contribute package patches and such? |
| 03:18.49 | n3kl | properly, that is? |
| 03:18.59 | abrotman | you can send patches to the bts |
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| 03:19.32 | n3kl | abrotman: is debian-multimedia included on the bts? |
| 03:19.52 | abrotman | uh no |
| 03:19.56 | n3kl | k |
| 03:20.15 | n3kl | so how do I create a patch I guess? There are some magic diff flags, yes? |
| 03:20.15 | tCzern | I still don't get the menu. I have much more installed than it shows. So how can I get to this? Without using terminal |
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| 03:23.31 | _adrenaline | Hey I am setting up a debian nis client and the instructions read one way if libc5 or another for libc6 How do I know what I have? |
| 03:23.48 | n3kl | dpkg -l | grep libc |
| 03:23.48 | dpkg | No packages found matching | grep libc |
| 03:23.50 | abrotman | _adrenaline: you likely have libc6 |
| 03:23.59 | _adrenaline | Thanks guys |
| 03:24.10 | n3kl | abrotman: where do I read up on how to submit a patch? |
| 03:24.25 | abrotman | n3kl: you send a patch to the BTS .. you create a patch with diff |
| 03:24.37 | _adrenaline | libc6 it is thanks |
| 03:24.42 | n3kl | abrotman: and just say which file on control I am patching? |
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| 03:25.35 | norbert- | hi; today I decided to install Ubuntu, because I was hoping it would give me more recent versions of software |
| 03:25.45 | _adrenaline | ? |
| 03:26.07 | n3kl | norbert-: please ask your ubuntu quesion in #ubuntu |
| 03:26.16 | norbert- | no, I'm back with Debian |
| 03:26.37 | norbert- | Ubuntu didn't work properly, because X hung every several minutes |
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| 03:26.56 | norbert- | even with all special effects turned of and Compiz uninstalled |
| 03:27.08 | norbert- | I decided to do a dist-upgrade to testing |
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| 03:27.22 | norbert- | but now X also hangs in Debian, although not as much |
| 03:27.33 | norbert- | it seems to have something to do with browsers (I know this sounds weird) |
| 03:27.41 | xoz | norbert-: while it may be good for you to go back to debian, your reason is lame. |
| 03:27.49 | norbert- | because everything is fine as long as I don't use Firefox (Iceweasel) or Opera |
| 03:27.51 | n3kl | agreed |
| 03:28.11 | _adrenaline | Definitely not a good way to introduce yourself hehe |
| 03:28.22 | norbert- | I'm not sure it was /that/ lame, since the only option I had was to use lynx to find answers to the problem |
| 03:28.48 | norbert- | or IRC/mailing lists, but IRC turned out to be of little help |
| 03:28.58 | abrotman | lynx for irc! |
| 03:29.21 | xoz | hopes norbert sticks to ubuntu |
| 03:29.29 | norbert- | xoz: why do you hope that? |
| 03:29.33 | n3kl | norbert-: you could always troubleshoot the issue, but welcome back to debian. Now what is your malfuntion? What errors? Steps that you have taken? |
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| 03:30.57 | norbert- | what happens is that the system becomes unresponsive, the mouse still works but has no effect, it moves in a stepped motion, and someone on the screen I usually see a small black bar with other colors over it |
| 03:31.08 | xoz | norbert-: your issues is not debian or ubuntu specific. hardware detection problems, or config problems are encountered in all ditros. you simple should not switch channel because of that reason. |
| 03:31.36 | norbert- | again, I have to explain to you and the rest of the people here that I just want a distro that works |
| 03:31.58 | norbert- | I don't use Linux because I want to start hacking or try to figure out what the possible hardware problems could be |
| 03:31.58 | xoz | that's a good wish |
| 03:32.29 | xoz | norbert-: if you want some help, you have to hack your way to explain what's going on. |
| 03:32.51 | abrotman | norbert-: is there another OS on the machine? |
| 03:32.52 | norbert- | my guess is that it has to do with my Radeon 9250 card |
| 03:33.01 | norbert- | no, just Linux; just Debian right now |
| 03:33.02 | abrotman | norbert-: which video ddriver are you using ? |
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| 03:33.44 | norbert- | ati |
| 03:33.51 | Bryanstein | norbert-, what are the specs on your machine? |
| 03:33.53 | abrotman | not fglrx ? |
| 03:34.27 | norbert- | ati is what Debian has chosen for my setup, but I could change it |
| 03:34.36 | abrotman | i'm not suggesting you do |
| 03:34.52 | abrotman | i don't think fglrx even works with that card .. maybe try the vesa driver |
| 03:35.19 | zinx | suspects hardware problems :/ |
| 03:36.23 | norbert- | I have to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, correct? |
| 03:36.32 | abrotman | doesn't do anything in testing |
| 03:36.37 | norbert- | ok |
| 03:36.47 | abrotman | you could use X -configure if you really wanted to |
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| 03:37.15 | norbert- | if I want X to stop crashing, would you advise me to use X -configure? |
| 03:37.24 | abrotman | if you want to try the vesa driver |
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| 03:37.48 | norbert- | ok |
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| 03:40.43 | norbert- | it seems to have picked Driver "radeon" |
| 03:40.58 | abrotman | so pick your own |
| 03:40.59 | norbert- | in the Section "Device" |
| 03:41.20 | norbert- | I'm thinking that maybe radeon is correct, since it is a Radeon 9250 card |
| 03:41.36 | norbert- | I'll give this a try, browse around a bit |
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| 03:42.13 | htmlol | I just accidentally hit the suspend key on my laptop and it sent my system into a [very unsuccesful] suspend, which I was unable to return from -- is there any way to disable this from happening in the future? |
| 03:42.57 | dmoerner | htmlol, edit the scripts in /etc/acpi. edit the actions script if you want to disable suspend from any acpi event, or just disable the key button event if you want that |
| 03:44.55 | Crypticfortune | hmmm, so more X topics: if i'm running nvidia twinview for dual monitors, what are some appropriate ways to query gnome to say "How big are my screens?" (in pixels) |
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| 03:45.20 | htmlol | dmoerner: All I see in /etc/acpi is when power button is hit, run a script (powerbtn.sh). It does reference kpowersave, which is running; I'll check kpowersave and see if there's anything relevant there |
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| 03:45.51 | dmoerner | htmlol, you can disable the button event from kpowersave itself. i didn't realize it was running. |
| 03:45.53 | zinx | Crypticfortune: you can query Xinerama for that information |
| 03:45.58 | htmlol | Good, there was something in kpowersave. Thanks. |
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| 03:46.27 | zinx | Crypticfortune: if you're looking for a gui, try nvidia-settings |
| 03:46.28 | midwestward | i have a pretty strange problem. i need to transfer about 13gb of files from one machine to another. but, the network is set up so that i need to ssh into a third machine from my laptop to access the files. i cannot transfer the files to the third machine. is there a clever way to scp these files to my laptop? |
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| 03:47.27 | dmoerner | midwestward, ssh into the third machine, on that machine mount the first machine's drive as a sshfs share, and then scp from that share to the second machine |
| 03:47.31 | Crypticfortune | zinx: oh, i thought xinerama wasn't active if i was using twinview... and i'm looking for a non-gui/non-interactive way |
| 03:47.36 | dmoerner | would that solve your problem? do you get what I'm saying? |
| 03:47.45 | zinx | Crypticfortune: use the xinerama API |
| 03:47.47 | htmlol | midwestward: You may be able to do something with binding addresses/ports, but I wouldn't know any specifics |
| 03:49.55 | Crypticfortune | zinx: allright thanks. i'll check it out |
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| 03:50.28 | midwestward | ssh foo@bar "scp foo@baz:gotttle.tar.gz ." |
| 03:50.33 | norbert- | (no, both radion and vesa continue to give problems) |
| 03:50.41 | midwestward | someone just told me to do that |
| 03:50.46 | zinx | Crypticfortune: see http://zenthought.org/system/files/asset/2/xinerdump.c for an example |
| 03:50.51 | dmoerner | that will copy it to the machine bar |
| 03:50.52 | midwestward | would that not move the files onto the third machine? |
| 03:50.58 | dmoerner | midwestward, i think my solution will work |
| 03:51.22 | midwestward | dmoerner, i will try it now |
| 03:51.48 | midwestward | dmoerner, i only have local access on the middle machine |
| 03:51.53 | midwestward | will this be a problem? |
| 03:51.54 | Crypticfortune | zinx: ooo awesome. that'll do exactly what i need ^^ |
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| 03:52.21 | dmoerner | midwestward, it's really confusing which machine is which. my point is that you can't ssh into a middle man machine and have it scp from one remote machine to another |
| 03:52.38 | dmoerner | the solution is to ssh into the middle man, mount one of the remote machine's partitions as a local share, and then scp from that share to the third machine |
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| 03:52.57 | midwestward | i understand |
| 03:53.14 | midwestward | i will try |
| 03:55.31 | midwestward | dmoerner, i am reading http://fuse.sourceforge.net/sshfs.html |
| 03:55.52 | midwestward | it looks like i need root access to mount the partition |
| 03:56.06 | midwestward | i only have local access. is there a way around this? |
| 03:56.16 | norbert- | once again, the conclusion is: if it ain't broken, don't try to fix it |
| 03:56.29 | abrotman | or try another video card |
| 03:56.30 | norbert- | I should have been happy with stable |
| 03:56.38 | norbert- | heh |
| 03:56.42 | zinx | norbert-: i think you have a hardware problem. |
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| 03:56.47 | norbert- | I got this video card because I had another one that crashed X |
| 03:57.12 | norbert- | there is a UniChrome PRO 3D (VIA K8M800 chipset) on this board |
| 03:57.46 | norbert- | and then I found the thread "freezes with 3D applications on VIA Unichrome K8M800, KM400" and finally knew why X was crashing |
| 03:57.51 | norbert- | I bought this new card |
| 03:58.15 | norbert- | and it worked fine until today, so I don't think it's a hardware problem |
| 03:58.16 | zinx | you're getting freezes with 2d, using the most basic driver you can |
| 03:58.22 | dmoerner | midwestward, now that i think about it that doesn't fix anything. if you use use sshfs to mount a remote share, you could just as easily just ssh into the middle man and then ssh into one of the other machines from that session |
| 03:58.49 | norbert- | zinx: that's true, but I still think it's a software problem, because it started after I went from stable to Ubuntu to testing |
| 03:58.59 | zinx | so switch back to the software you were using that worked |
| 03:59.05 | norbert- | I will do that |
| 03:59.17 | norbert- | apt-get dist-downgrade, does that exist? |
| 03:59.28 | dmoerner | no |
| 03:59.29 | zinx | that still doesn't exist |
| 03:59.43 | norbert- | ok, then I'll just reinstall Debian |
| 03:59.47 | zinx | you have to reinstall to downgrade, yeah |
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| 04:01.31 | Crypticfortune | norbert, zinx: technically, no. but that's definitely safer/quite possibly easier... |
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| 04:02.56 | zinx | don't make me get my murderin' axe |
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| 04:05.34 | Crypticfortune | zinx: i wouldn't dream of it. not after you were so helpful with xinerama ;) but http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html points out a hack-ish way to force a downgrade to stable |
| 04:06.59 | zinx | i'm not seeing it |
| 04:07.31 | Crypticfortune | section 6.2.5, preferences.stable |
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| 04:09.44 | zinx | Crypticfortune: if we tell people to do that, they will come to us when they break their system completely. |
| 04:09.55 | zinx | Crypticfortune: if you want some idea of how hard it is to fix such a system, try it. |
| 04:10.01 | Crypticfortune | i know from experience that does tend to cause a mess though. it's definitely not the method of choice =P |
| 04:10.28 | Crypticfortune | zinx: yup, been there done that (did fix it, but it wasn't pretty). |
| 04:11.36 | midwestward | hey dmoerner, i think i found a way. if you happen to see the same problem again, here is the solution: http://samba.anu.edu.au/rsync/firewall.html |
| 04:11.44 | midwestward | thanks for you help |
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| 04:16.03 | dmoerner | midwestward, that's an excellent link i think i will create a factoid |
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| 04:17.09 | WormFood | what package is there for sid that will extract a .sitx file (stuffit)? |
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| 04:18.42 | beardy | !tell WormFood -about search |
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| 04:21.10 | adrenaline | what is the syntax to list available pkg in apt-get? |
| 04:21.22 | adrenaline | apt-get ? package |
| 04:21.37 | dmoerner | aptitude search ~T? what do you mean? |
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| 04:21.54 | adrenaline | I need some ssh file but I don't knw the name of it? |
| 04:22.04 | dmoerner | apt-cache search ssh? |
| 04:22.13 | adrenaline | thanks |
| 04:23.59 | beardy | WormFood: http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Apps/stuffit-archives.html |
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| 04:24.20 | WormFood | beardy, I'm quite aware how to search, and did several searches before asking here |
| 04:24.34 | beardy | !kill proprietary formats of any kind |
| 04:24.34 | dpkg | tears a hole in proprietary formats of any kind's head with a large trout |
| 04:24.43 | beardy | WormFood: Really. |
| 04:25.47 | WormFood | I can't imagine why in the hell they would distribute a file in a god damn sitx format |
| 04:25.49 | adrenaline | I could really use some suggestions with NIS client on debian if anybody could help? |
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| 04:27.01 | adrenaline | maybe I will reboot just to make sure all of the files are being read |
| 04:27.07 | WormFood | also, I had already found that page too beardy (before asking here), however, I was looking for a package in the sid repositories |
| 04:27.11 | adrenaline | bbiab |
| 04:27.20 | WormFood | adrenaline, rarely do you have to rebot linux |
| 04:27.39 | WormFood | just restart the service in question |
| 04:28.12 | WormFood | anyways, thanks for your help...I suspected there wouldn't be any tools for sitx in sid |
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| 04:28.45 | beardy | WormFood: Well, if none of the things on that page is packaged, I don't think so. |
| 04:29.05 | beardy | Which I'm sure you already checked then. |
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| 04:30.35 | WormFood | moot now, since I just discovered the contents of this file is not what I need/want |
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| 04:51.32 | adrenaline | Ok I have a centos NIS server and a debian workstation. I have configured NIS. When I log into my debian box via ssh or even local it creates the home directory but will not let me log in. any ideas on anything I can check? |
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| 05:22.17 | mlLK | i have two 320 gig harddrives and don't really wanna fuss w/ raid and was wondering how i should dedicate all that extra space |
| 05:22.59 | c0m1 | hi. someone gave me a 3Ghz 64bit PC, which I was going to put Lenny on. I've got two 500GB drives handy, and BIOS has a "Raid on" option. Can someone point me in right direction for setting up Raid 1? |
| 05:23.14 | mlLK | lol you gotta be kidding me |
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| 05:23.53 | c0m1 | mlLK: fascinating |
| 05:24.18 | mlLK | what are the odds huh |
| 05:24.22 | c0m1 | mlLK: what do you want your computer to do for you? |
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| 05:24.34 | c0m1 | server? games? etc...? |
| 05:25.42 | mlLK | i'd like to do a server, but i might not have enough time to do it right |
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| 05:26.45 | mlLK | but for this case lets consider i wanna do a local private server |
| 05:27.02 | c0m1 | mlLK: web server? file server? |
| 05:27.12 | mlLK | i'm behind a private ip anyways; both |
| 05:27.35 | mlLK | i'd like to experiment w/ a file server |
| 05:27.59 | mlLK | but at the same time i'd like a stable backup to file back on |
| 05:28.02 | c0m1 | mlLK: I suppose you should probably give an entire drive then to the /home directory, which is where all users data is stored |
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| 05:28.39 | c0m1 | mlLK: and mount one as root, that way you could switch system or data out fairly easily, whatever the need of the moment was |
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| 05:29.02 | mlLK | is /home the right choice even for a file server? |
| 05:29.30 | mlLK | although it seems the most secure |
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| 05:29.54 | c0m1 | mlLK: I'll be honest, I'm not sys admin, but that's what I'd do, since each new user on system will have share in home directory. But I suppose more advanced setup is possible |
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| 05:30.17 | mlLK | i'm gonna have to explore how my web host has theirs setup |
| 05:30.37 | c0m1 | mlLK: I use web hosting on remote Linux server, and that is how mine is setup |
| 05:30.57 | c0m1 | mlLK: well, not exactly |
| 05:31.28 | c0m1 | mlLK: the http files are usually stored in /var directory, although on my web host they are stored in /home |
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| 05:32.27 | mlLK | i think debian generally uses /etc |
| 05:32.36 | mlLK | i'm not positive tho |
| 05:32.56 | c0m1 | mlLK: I use debian actually, default web server files go in /var |
| 05:33.05 | mlLK | plus i'm on a windows machine w/o cygwin or much of anything unixy :[ |
| 05:33.16 | w33d5 | does anyone how i can change this ? to find *.jpg from /media/folder1 and copy to /media/folder2 find /media/folder1 -type f -name *.jpg | xargs cp ??? /media/folder2 |
| 05:33.24 | c0m1 | mlLK: don't know about samba, NFS, but I think default would be to users share in /home |
| 05:34.11 | mlLK | i got a really good linux admin book (its pink) and nfs, samba, and networking in general is super cool |
| 05:34.22 | stoned | cool |
| 05:34.25 | stoned | you like pink eh |
| 05:34.26 | mlLK | just takes a lot of time to figure out what you wanna do |
| 05:34.30 | mlLK | lol ty |
| 05:34.39 | stoned | pink its my favorite color |
| 05:34.47 | stoned | pink as the sheets that we lay on.. |
| 05:34.51 | stoned | goes to find that song |
| 05:34.57 | c0m1 | now to repeat my earlier question |
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| 05:35.13 | mlLK | my unconsciousness is pink |
| 05:35.36 | cafuego | Debian's default documentroot is /var/www |
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| 05:35.52 | mlLK | http://www.amazon.com/Linux-Administration-Handbook-2nd-Nemeth/dp/0131480049 |
| 05:35.53 | cafuego | Apache config files go in /etc/apache or /etc/apache2, depending on which version you installed. |
| 05:35.57 | mlLK | cafuego, thats right |
| 05:36.04 | mlLK | ok ok ty |
| 05:36.33 | c0m1 | Someone just gave a 3Ghz 64-bit PC, and BIOS gives Raid On option for drives. I've got two 500GB drives of same make and model. Was going to put Lenny on the PC. Can anyone point me in right direction for setting up RAID 1 |
| 05:37.23 | c0m1 | I haven't installed the OS yet -- should I do that first on one drive? Or do I need to do something else first? |
| 05:37.24 | mlLK | c0m1, too bad you can't test something like that on a vm |
| 05:37.45 | cafuego | c0m1: Ignore the bios raid. |
| 05:38.04 | cafuego | c0m1: Run through the installer and when it comes time to partition, set up kernel mode software raid. |
| 05:38.29 | cafuego | c0m1: it's very straightforward and does not depend on a slow proprietary bios implementation. |
| 05:38.46 | c0m1 | cafuego: I never noticed that in the net install options, but I wasn't paying attn for that |
| 05:38.56 | mlLK | c0m1, http://www.google.com/cse?cx=017644269519104757279%3Agm62gtzaoky&q=raid&sa=go |
| 05:39.01 | cafuego | c0m1: I think it' |
| 05:39.09 | cafuego | s under "manual partitioning" |
| 05:39.35 | mlLK | tldp would seem like where i would start |
| 05:39.58 | mlLK | you already know what you wanna do; it's just a matter of how to do it |
| 05:40.00 | cafuego | c0m1: Basically, you create two partitions on each disk, of type raid. Then the enxt step gives you the option to configure raid/ |
| 05:40.21 | cafuego | actually, one raid type partition and one swap partition on each disk |
| 05:40.57 | cafuego | I personally then run LVM on top of that raid setup, but if you don't need or want that, don't bother. |
| 05:40.58 | mlLK | lol i now might actually consider it |
| 05:41.13 | c0m1 | cafuego: so, then after that do I setup up custom sized / dir and /home dir? |
| 05:41.14 | d-b | hi there what is the correct method of using blowfish on debian. i added pam2 to /etc/pam.d/com.... etc but i got a message saying that i should use /etc/default/passwd as option blowfish is old... |
| 05:41.50 | cafuego | c0m1: Without LVM, just use that one raid disk (/dev/md0) for / and don't bother with a separate home |
| 05:42.34 | cafuego | c0m1: Otherwise you'd perhaps need to make two raid partitions and one swap, then create a smallish raid 1 for 1 and a second raid1 for /home |
| 05:43.52 | c0m1 | c0m1: BTW, will this accomplish what I'm expecting? If one drive fails, everything still runs? |
| 05:43.58 | cafuego | Yes |
| 05:44.36 | c0m1 | cafuego: If I have Debian installed, how will I know if a drive has failed? |
| 05:45.37 | cafuego | you'll get emails like: "A Fail event had been detected on md device /dev/md1." |
| 05:46.08 | cafuego | ... that get sent to root by default, or forwarded to whomever root email is supposed to go to. |
| 05:46.26 | c0m1 | cafuego: ah, ok. That's cool. thx for the help. I'll go start up net install disk |
| 05:46.27 | mlLK | cafuego, whats a good server experiment for a admin noob with 2 320s? |
| 05:46.31 | cafuego | I stuck all my raid machines into a nagios config, so I get IMed when a disk goes. |
| 05:47.10 | cafuego | mlLK: Check the difference in performance between a raid5 with a missing disk, a raid0 and a raid1. |
| 05:47.20 | cafuego | mlLK: Also a nice way to play with LVM. |
| 05:47.55 | mlLK | is raid5 actually applicable? |
| 05:48.26 | cafuego | mlLK: raid5 with one absent (failed) disk can run on 2 disks. of course, if one of those 2 goes, so does all data - so experiment only ;-) |
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| 05:49.56 | mlLK | so suddenly i gotta goal |
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| 05:50.21 | stoned | uhm |
| 05:50.24 | stoned | goat |
| 05:50.27 | stoned | er. goal |
| 05:50.47 | mlLK | i got plenty of goats. |
| 05:51.00 | mlLK | goals i do not have many. |
| 05:51.36 | c0m1 | cafuego: it there a downside to LVM? |
| 05:51.49 | cafuego | c0m1: AN extra layer that could fail |
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| 05:52.15 | c0m1 | cafuego: ah, I see |
| 05:52.31 | cafuego | but for me the added convenience far outweighs that |
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| 05:54.11 | c0m1 | cafuego: do you think I should turn on bootable flags for both drives, or just one? |
| 05:54.14 | mlLK | cafuego, what is the value in redundancy? |
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| 05:54.20 | mlLK | given raid5 |
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| 05:54.23 | cafuego | c0m1: Linux doesn't care about bootable flags |
| 05:54.42 | c0m1 | c0m1: ah, I see. Thx |
| 05:54.54 | cafuego | mlLK: With raid5 you lose less of the total available storage. |
| 05:55.31 | cafuego | mlLK: Basically you have disk size * (nr_disks -1) GiB available |
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| 05:55.44 | cafuego | whereas with raid1 you have half the size |
| 05:56.01 | cafuego | of course, the downside is that raid5 needs to calculate checksums, thus eats cpu |
| 05:56.10 | mlLK | thats ok |
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| 05:56.18 | mlLK | how well does it write in comparison |
| 05:56.40 | mlLK | seems like it reads nearly at the rate of raid0 |
| 05:57.18 | Nai | hi, any procedures to get flash- working on debian, tried a bunch of different ways to install but no workie |
| 05:57.25 | cafuego | it reads fast, but write is slow because of this checksum calculation |
| 05:57.40 | cafuego | mlLK: Data is split, so it can read off multiple spindles |
| 05:57.58 | cafuego | Nai: There's a plugin apckage, isn't there? |
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| 05:58.54 | cafuego | mlLK: Oh, and raid5 doesn't have mutiple checksums, so if there is corruption on disk it can't determine which of its copies is the right one. This is where raid6 comes in. |
| 05:59.28 | mlLK | hrm sounds like i'd rather opt-in for raid0 to start |
| 05:59.33 | Nai | cafuego, various packages but they don't let flash work in the firefox, i ran "apt-get install libflash-mozplugin" and it said it's already at the newest version |
| 05:59.57 | cafuego | mlLK: raid0 is for people who don't mind losing data |
| 06:00.08 | mlLK | raid5 seems more suitable for hardcore data servers |
| 06:00.33 | cafuego | Nai: Hmm, my mistake |
| 06:01.01 | cafuego | mlLK: if you lose a disk from raid0, you lose the entire filesystem, and thus all data. |
| 06:01.07 | mlLK | well my data isn't necessarily valuable since its non-exsistent |
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| 06:02.04 | mlLK | i might iterate raid0 until i'm comfortable w/ what i want |
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| 06:02.24 | mlLK | unless you think this might damage the disks |
| 06:02.31 | cafuego | Nai: Ah, thr adobe plugin was remove from debian, you'll need to use backports.org. http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer |
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| 06:02.40 | Nai | did anyone get Flash working on debian? i have "etch main" and "main contrib" in my sources.list |
| 06:02.46 | Nai | cafuego, thanks i will read it |
| 06:03.55 | mhymn | Nai: you mean flash player? yes, it works fine here |
| 06:04.33 | mlLK | cafuego, does raid5 not make sense if i still want to use my server as a desktop? |
| 06:04.49 | mlLK | like for file transfers,, writing code, playing etc |
| 06:05.06 | cafuego | mlLK: it'll be fine; but you WILL want 3 disks then. Not 2. |
| 06:05.18 | mlLK | cuz it writes so slow? |
| 06:05.45 | Nai | cafuego, i tried the steps on the page you gave, it says "package flashplugin-nonfree is not available, but it referred to by another package. this may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available fro manother source" |
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| 06:06.04 | neoice | mlLK: I actually recommend raid for a desktop. my friend didnt listen and just had his TB drive bite the dust. |
| 06:06.10 | cafuego | Nai: did you run an apt-get update? |
| 06:06.18 | Nai | cafuego, yes |
| 06:06.25 | cafuego | mlLK: it's not *that* slow |
| 06:06.32 | mlLK | neoice, you run raid5 on a desktop? |
| 06:06.49 | neoice | miLK: I run ZFS mirror on Solaris and raid1 |
| 06:06.55 | neoice | but I'm poor. |
| 06:06.57 | cafuego | used to run raid5 on his desktop, then found 3 more disks on a bookshelf and want to raid10. |
| 06:07.02 | mlLK | lol |
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| 06:07.13 | neoice | and indeed, its not THAT slow |
| 06:07.20 | mhymn | Nai: dude, you just need to get the one in dmm repo |
| 06:07.26 | cafuego | mlLK: and slow > losing data |
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| 06:07.36 | mlLK | cafuego, i agree. |
| 06:07.37 | neoice | like most things, you probably dont need to worry unless you're going to be slamming it with hundreds of SQL queries a second or something |
| 06:07.50 | Nai | mhymn, do i need to add dmm to my sources.list? or upgrade to another distribution? |
| 06:08.15 | cafuego | neoice: hundreds is fine, as long as you fix mysql to not use the default my.cnf (designed for a server with *32* Mb of ram!) |
| 06:08.20 | mhymn | Nai: no, i got it manually, go there and dl it, that's all |
| 06:08.38 | Nai | i'm not sure where that is |
| 06:08.48 | neoice | cafuego: exactly. you really dont need to worry about performance issues unless you're doing some SERIOUS lifting. |
| 06:08.52 | mhymn | lemme give you the link |
| 06:08.54 | mhymn | sec |
| 06:09.38 | mlLK | will sata2 improve my writes a bit more? |
| 06:09.39 | mhymn | Nai: etch i386? |
| 06:09.45 | Jinx_ | my screensavers seems tobe in the wrong directory, lol |
| 06:10.10 | mlLK | i can't afford a 3rd hd at the moment, plus my other two don't match |
| 06:10.21 | mlLK | and are currently in use |
| 06:10.24 | Nai | mhymn, sources.list shows etch main and main contrib, uname reports i686, its on PC yes |
| 06:10.34 | cafuego | mlLK: Unmatches doesn't matter, as long as you restrict the array to the size of the smaller of the two disks. |
| 06:10.52 | Nai | was commented out> # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 r4a _Etch_ - Official i386 NETINST Binary-1 20080804-15:10]/ etch contrib main |
| 06:10.52 | mlLK | well one is dramatically different |
| 06:11.02 | mhymn | OK |
| 06:11.12 | mlLK | and wouldn't be worth it since its only 74 gigs |
| 06:11.16 | cafuego | mlLK: So use the extra space as a differen tpartition ;-) |
| 06:11.37 | mlLK | the other is vista and presently consumed w/ vm images |
| 06:11.48 | cafuego | Ok, so that can be wiped |
| 06:12.28 | mlLK | so 320+320+74 is feasible? |
| 06:12.39 | mhymn | Nai: direct link, ready to download --> http://tinyurl.com/5wq2qo |
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| 06:13.56 | Nai | mhymn, ty for getting the link |
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| 06:14.06 | cafuego | mlLK: It'll allow you a 3 disk 74GiB raid array and a 2 disk 320-74GiB raid array |
| 06:14.31 | mlLK | interesting |
| 06:14.54 | Nai | mhymn, do i need to do something other than dpkg -i ? the flash test page says missing plugin still |
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| 06:15.11 | Jinx_ | I think I found a bug: upon returning from hybernation my sound fails to be configured... and I seem to have more screen savers then appearing in the gui box |
| 06:15.32 | mhymn | Nai: no you don't, weird... |
| 06:15.44 | mlLK | one spins at 10k and the other 2 spin at 7200; is this dangerous? |
| 06:16.01 | Nai | mhymn, it did not put anything in the plugins directory... |
| 06:16.40 | mlLK | thats my last question; before i'm off |
| 06:16.57 | Nai | mlLK, i usually try to have the disk RPMS match in a raid enclosure, the ones we use at work require that |
| 06:17.05 | mlLK | i really do worry to much these days anytime i do something new |
| 06:18.02 | mhymn | Nai: where is the plugin directory then? /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins/ ? |
| 06:18.02 | cafuego | mlLK: only if you throw them at eachother when they're spinning |
| 06:18.02 | Tapout | is there a way to test a local machine if it's got that ssh key problem? the predictable key |
| 06:18.03 | mlLK | lol |
| 06:18.03 | Nai | mhymn, /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins |
| 06:18.11 | mlLK | i have had a power connector come loose before |
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| 06:18.20 | mlLK | using my case as foot stool |
| 06:18.24 | cafuego | mlLK: consumer disks don't write stuff to the platter when they say they do, so I wouldn't worry about matching 'em. they lie anyway. |
| 06:18.40 | c0m1 | cafuego: I set up RAID1 device #0. But partitioner will only let me put one partition on that device. Where does swap go? |
| 06:18.42 | mhymn | Nai: right, there should be a file with this name --> libflashplayer.so |
| 06:18.43 | mlLK | ok good ty; that is really reassuring |
| 06:19.02 | cafuego | Tapout: run ssh-vulnkey |
| 06:19.15 | mlLK | naming your hd the raptor should have been my first cue |
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| 06:19.26 | Tapout | !openssh-blacklist |
| 06:19.31 | Tapout | !ssh-vulnkey |
| 06:19.32 | dpkg | from memory, ssh-vulnkey is a tool to identify known weak ssh keys (ask me about <dsa1571><dsa1576>). It is found in the openssh-client package version 4.3p2-9etch1 or later; you will need to "aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade" to also install the new openssh-blacklist package. See http://wiki.debian.org/SSLkeys for usage. |
| 06:19.33 | mhymn | Nai: and not bad to check '~/.mozilla/plugins/' too |
| 06:19.34 | Tapout | thanks Cabal |
| 06:19.35 | Tapout | cafe |
| 06:19.37 | mlLK | cafuego, ty for the wise words i'll let you know how it turns out |
| 06:19.40 | Nai | mhymn, there is that file in the /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins ,ldd reports nothing is missing with it |
| 06:19.51 | cafuego | c0m1: Swap should be a separate partition on the base disk. I suggest you make one on each of the disks, so you'll get 2 swap partitions. |
| 06:20.07 | cafuego | c0m1: So each disk should end up as [raid|swap] |
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| 06:20.27 | cafuego | c0m1: And your *system* will eventually see [RAID|swap+swap] |
| 06:20.28 | c0m1 | cafuego: ahh... oops. that's prob what you said the first time |
| 06:20.33 | Nai | mhymn, there is also libflash-moplugin.so and libswfdecmozilla.so but not sure if that is related to other things i tried |
| 06:20.41 | Nai | s/mop/moz |
| 06:20.43 | cafuego | c0m1: i had to learn it the hard way too ;-) |
| 06:22.45 | mhymn | Nai: well, at least one of them should work, or you miay try a clean install again, purge all those crap |
| 06:23.23 | Nai | ok i will try to list and delete all the plugins and clean those directories and try again, thakns for your time |
| 06:23.50 | Nai | thx mhymn |
| 06:23.56 | mhymn | yw |
| 06:24.45 | mhymn | Nai: BTW i'm sure all you need is the one i gave you from dmm, forget about all others you've installed before, good luck |
| 06:25.11 | Nai | tyvm |
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| 06:30.09 | Nai | mhymn, omgomgomgomg it works, tyvm, test page says flash player installed and shockwave player missing, i wonder if the shockwave works on linux also? |
| 06:30.33 | Jinx_ | so, goto the site... |
| 06:30.59 | mhymn | Nai: i've no clue about shockwave, there should be something out there ;) |
| 06:31.16 | Nai | gtg, gnite |
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| 06:37.12 | c0m1 | cafuego: just wanted to say thx again. I set up two RAID device for / and /home, and so far system seems to be installing fine |
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| 06:42.59 | cafuego | c0m1: cool :-) |
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| 06:55.36 | Symbi0nt^D5 | or apache and php |
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| 07:09.30 | c0m1 | First time with 64-bit PC -- Just did fresh base system net install of Etch amd64. Was about to configure sources.list for upgrade to Lenny. Can sources.list look the same as on my 32 bit Lenny systems? |
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| 07:11.44 | Tim-S | occasionally my computer freezes up when connecting to a wireless network. It also intermittely drops wireless/VPN connections. What can I do to start to diagnose the problem? |
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| 07:20.11 | liable | if you are installing, the installer will do it for you.. |
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| 07:21.47 | c0m1 | liable: messed up installation slightly, so it didn't write the sources.list file |
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| 07:22.08 | c0m1 | system working fine now, but need to write sources.list |
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| 07:22.35 | liable | thats very odd the installation worked but source.list wasn't written |
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| 07:22.57 | c0m1 | liable: only did base system install |
| 07:23.18 | liable | c0m1: it still would have written it doing a base install |
| 07:23.29 | liable | !sources list |
| 07:23.29 | dpkg | [sources list] a good sources.list (based on the previousone) is at ftp://64.192.222.101/pub/sources.list |
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| 07:23.33 | c0m1 | liable: with a net-install disk. Package error of some kind occurred, so had to go back a few steps and redo |
| 07:25.13 | c0m1 | liable: doesn't seem to be anything in that directory |
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| 07:25.36 | liable | c0m1: downloading packages shouldnt affect it, but anyway see http://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html#id250969 |
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| 07:35.20 | testi | I want my terminal session to display stderr in a different color than stdout. How can I achieve that? |
| 07:36.03 | testi | I case it depends on the terminal emulator: I use konsole |
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| 07:39.05 | boggy` | testi: http://linux.derkeiler.com/Newsgroups/comp.os.linux.misc/2008-07/msg00754.html |
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| 07:39.16 | hanibana | hi |
| 07:39.28 | hanibana | I have set up a dial-in server... |
| 07:39.41 | hanibana | I use mgetty for incoming logins |
| 07:40.09 | hanibana | but mgetty always starts fax receiver... |
| 07:40.27 | hanibana | I have used the -D and data-only options |
| 07:40.49 | hanibana | but it still responses to the logins as faxes... |
| 07:40.55 | hanibana | any idea ? |
| 07:41.02 | hanibana | any experience? |
| 07:41.04 | boggy` | i dont know |
| 07:41.09 | boggy` | try google.com/linux |
| 07:41.28 | hanibana | thanks |
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| 07:42.51 | boggy` | np |
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| 07:51.47 | aldin | hi, i have strange situation, glxgearx and glxinfo|grep dir says i have 3D acceleration, but my windows/browsers are very slow, i use lenny and vga card is Intel Corporation 82Q963/Q965 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02), can someone suggest me what to do, is it kernel or iz it xorg.conf? btw in xorg.conf i dont have section driver |
| 07:51.51 | aldin | thansk in advance |
| 07:52.02 | testi | boggy`: Thank you. I found the tool "logapp". |
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| 08:00.10 | test_ | morning everyone. |
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| 08:26.46 | Coke | The package for iceweasel says it's a lightweight version of the firefox browser, yet it is around 10-20 times slower. Is there an even less weight browser available in Debian? |
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| 08:27.16 | ArtVandalae | Coke, yes. Dillo, Lynx, Links, elinks, links2 |
| 08:27.19 | Coke | (yeah, I know, everybody says Iceweasel IS firefox with another name, but it IS also 20 times slower, no doubt, heard it from multiple sources) |
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| 08:27.32 | Coke | ArtVandalae: not console though |
| 08:27.51 | ArtVandalae | Coke, empathy |
| 08:27.52 | Coke | I'd love it that worked, but unfortunately the Internet is full of morons who think you cannot buy a product unless it's presented in Flash and images. |
| 08:28.01 | ArtVandalae | Coke, sorry, Epiphany :) |
| 08:28.04 | ArtVandalae | Always get them two confused |
| 08:28.13 | Coke | Yeah... |
| 08:28.40 | Coke | Haha, "empathy" is a package for "telepathy" (IM) |
| 08:28.45 | ArtVandalae | Especially since Epiphany is now moving to Webkit, it'll be even lighter. but if you use GNOME/GTK, Epiphany is good |
| 08:29.02 | ArtVandalae | Coke, yeah, I mean Epiphany :) |
| 08:29.03 | Coke | AAARGH! |
| 08:29.06 | ArtVandalae | *meant |
| 08:29.25 | Coke | It requires gnome |
| 08:29.47 | ArtVandalae | Okay firstly which WM/DE are you using? |
| 08:29.59 | Coke | ratpoision or icewm depending on what I do |
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| 08:30.48 | Coke | Why can't the mozilla team just release firefox for 64-bit amd |
| 08:31.43 | Coke | We've had 64-bit systems now for a decade, for the first time in my life the hardware is better than the software. Used to be that programmers complained about the limitations of the hardware, these days hardware is 32-bits ahead of software. :) |
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| 08:32.10 | esthar | abrotman: Can I uninstall X11 and reinstall it while still running it? |
| 08:32.41 | Saebekassebil | Hey evryone! I've just mounted my windows part, but i cant play my music with other users than root, how do i change that? |
| 08:32.45 | ArtVandalae | esthar, yes, as long as you keep running it :) |
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| 08:32.48 | Coke | ArtVandalae: do you know why the "firefox" in Debian is so slow? |
| 08:33.11 | Coke | esthar: if you want the new version to load you have to restart though |
| 08:33.22 | ArtVandalae | Coke, I can't think of any reasons, sorry. |
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| 08:34.11 | Coke | ArtVandalae: it is faster for me to logon to the machine with 32-bit compat libs and firefox on it via X than it is to run Iceweasel locally. |
| 08:34.18 | Saebekassebil | No one? |
| 08:34.41 | Coke | Saebekassebil: /etc/fstab is of interrest to you |
| 08:34.49 | esthar | Coke: Restart X11 or the computer? |
| 08:34.51 | Coke | Saebekassebil: in it you can adjust flags for mounting various filesystems. |
| 08:34.58 | Coke | esthar: X11, this isn't WINDOZE |
| 08:35.20 | Saebekassebil | I've used fstab to mount with |
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| 08:35.32 | Saebekassebil | which flag should i use? |
| 08:35.38 | Saebekassebil | i've just used default |
| 08:35.40 | Coke | Saebekassebil: you'd have to read up on the mount command |
| 08:35.51 | Coke | Saebekassebil: I don't know what filesystem is on your device |
| 08:36.00 | Saebekassebil | ntfs |
| 08:36.16 | Coke | Saebekassebil: well, as the japanese fight promoters would say: GUDDU LACKU! |
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| 08:36.51 | Saebekassebil | ... :S |
| 08:36.55 | Coke | ArtVandalae: what browser do you use maaaaan? |
| 08:37.06 | Coke | Saebekassebil: honestly though, most Debian users are hardcore free software fanatics |
| 08:37.18 | Guerin | and rightly so |
| 08:37.37 | Coke | Saebekassebil: we think you have contaminated your computer with NTFS |
| 08:38.03 | Coke | Saebekassebil: but more to the point, it's a closed technology, ask Microsoft, I pressume you have already paid them for the use of NTFS. |
| 08:38.40 | Coke | If they don't want to help you I suggest you switch your supplier of filesystems. |
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| 08:39.05 | Saebekassebil | My debian is ext3 (of course) but Windows.. Well i've just resonly even heat(?) of Debian, and i would just ask... :S |
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| 08:39.30 | Coke | Saebekassebil: man mount, I've never used NTFS so I don't know any flags by heart |
| 08:39.32 | jelly-home | Saebekassebil: you want to add uid=1000,gid=100, and possibly some umask tuning. Change uid and gid to what your user has |
| 08:39.35 | Coke | Saebekassebil: there's an experimental support for it |
| 08:40.03 | PMT | ntfs-3g is your best friend. |
| 08:40.09 | ArtVandalae | Coke, firefor or epiphany depending on what I'm doing |
| 08:40.12 | ArtVandalae | *firefox |
| 08:40.13 | Coke | Saebekassebil: oh, and you probably want to mount it read-only |
| 08:40.22 | jelly-home | it's always nice to have a free software rant instead of actual help |
| 08:40.32 | PMT | it's true! it's even usually Free! |
| 08:40.39 | PMT | [though you need to provide your own beer in order to sit through it] |
| 08:40.45 | Coke | Saebekassebil: last I heard writes to ntfs could mess things up, but you'd have to read up on that. |
| 08:40.55 | jelly-home | !ntfsrw |
| 08:40.55 | dpkg | If you want read/write access to NTFS filesystems, ask me about <ntfs-3g> or use ntfsmount from ntfsprogs |
| 08:41.02 | jelly-home | dpkg: thanks! |
| 08:41.03 | dpkg | jelly-home: de rien |
| 08:41.06 | jelly-home | !ntfs-3g |
| 08:41.07 | dpkg | [ntfs-3g] a user-space NTFS driver with write support and good performance. It is available in Lenny, or through backports.org for Etch (ask me about <backports.org> for instructions and see http://packages.debian.org/etch-backports/ntfs-3g). Usage examples: http://www.ntfs-3g.org/#usage |
| 08:41.13 | Coke | jelly-home: I consider it helping if I move someone from NTFS to ext3 |
| 08:41.14 | PMT | Saebekassebil, ntfs-3g is probably your best friend for NTFS read/write, and I've never seen it do the Wrong Thing to a filesystem. At best, it will refuse to do something if you ask it to do something it's not comfortable doing. |
| 08:41.21 | PMT | It's something of a design goal. |
| 08:41.30 | milligan_ | Is it possibly to chown databases to system users, so the db is included in quota calculation ? |
| 08:41.36 | Coke | jelly-home: and again, if you want help with Microsoft's technologies you should ask them, who would know more about it than the authors? |
| 08:41.40 | Coke | :) |
| 08:41.50 | milligan_ | mysql-databases* |
| 08:42.05 | Coke | Naw, but Saebekassebil knows I'm joshing. |
| 08:42.05 | jelly-home | Coke: I'm not ignoring you this early in the morning! |
| 08:42.28 | Coke | Why do people announce their ignores? |
| 08:43.01 | PMT | milligan_, probably - you'd have to adjust who the DBs are owned by. I'd recommend that you quota the DB owner in the first place, though, as the user-per-system-process isolation is a good idea. |
| 08:43.16 | Coke | ArtVandalae: why are you sometimes using Firefox? |
| 08:43.30 | Coke | ArtVandalae: what's missing in epi? |
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| 08:43.59 | Coke | milligan_: also, how will MySQL react when the disk io says quota is full? |
| 08:44.08 | milligan_ | PMT, yeah. I put a quota on system users .. and I just need the dbs to be owned by them, so they can't fill several gigs of i.e pictures in the db. |
| 08:44.37 | milligan_ | Coke, hmm.. mysql will get a write denied? |
| 08:44.50 | Saebekassebil | Coke: Done it... :) |
| 08:44.52 | Saebekassebil | Thx |
| 08:44.55 | Coke | milligan_: yes, and then? running out of disk is probably considered severe problem |
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| 08:45.19 | Coke | milligan_: will it be neetly reported to the user or will MySQL croak? |
| 08:45.48 | jelly-home | it it'll croak you shouldn't be using it in the first place |
| 08:45.48 | milligan_ | Coke, Both, probably. The user will get a report when he's closing in on quota .. and if he neglects it, MySQL will croak and he could end up borking his app. |
| 08:46.03 | Coke | milligan_: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-unix-setting-up-mysql-database-quotas.html |
| 08:46.23 | Coke | milligan_: maybe that will help? |
| 08:46.48 | milligan_ | Coke, I'll take a look at it. You guys have a point, so maybe I should limit the db itself. |
| 08:47.03 | Coke | jelly-home: with todays hard drive capacity I'd be surprised if all software had built-in protection against disk full |
| 08:47.15 | Coke | protection = graceful handling |
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| 08:47.25 | jfg | hi |
| 08:47.33 | ArtVandalae | Coke, it doesn't have as many cool extensions. i.e. My net usage meter. |
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| 08:48.00 | Coke | ArtVandalae: I just want to surf webpages without having a 2.0s delay every time I click a link or get a new tab |
| 08:48.29 | jfg | is there a way to use dpkg --get-selections and dpkg-set-selections to install on a new machine all the packages that were on another one |
| 08:48.51 | Coke | jfg: redirect the output to a file and then redirect it from that file |
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| 08:49.18 | Coke | jfg: and yep, I've used that to "mirror" installations on a few boxes. |
| 08:49.32 | adrenaline | For some reason appletalk starts during boot. I don't need it how to I stop that? |
| 08:49.34 | jfg | Coke: ok, but if on the new machine i use : dpkg --set-selections < myselect.txt |
| 08:49.46 | jelly-home | milligan_: note, that page uses group quotas, not user ones; so your users should have own groups |
| 08:49.46 | jfg | all packages will be marked "installed" but won't be so |
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| 08:49.58 | milligan_ | jelly, yeah, I saw. |
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| 08:50.17 | milligan_ | jelly, I suppose I could do a chown user:mysql though, and the userquota would kick in, and it should still work. |
| 08:50.24 | Coke | jfg: might be the package lists differ, you might have older version that can't be installed |
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| 08:51.07 | jfg | Coke: no that's not what i mean |
| 08:51.27 | jfg | Coke: hhm sorry my english is bad |
| 08:51.31 | Coke | jfg: ok. well, that has worked for me in the past, although I did it with a subselection of packages. |
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| 08:51.46 | jelly-home | milligan_: and a setuid on the directory instead of setgid, right |
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| 08:52.02 | Obligatory | Yo. |
| 08:52.19 | milligan_ | jelly, also, I won't have to move everything to their homedir .. it can just reside in var/lib/mysql .. quota will still be in effect. |
| 08:53.28 | Obligatory | How many packages are in the vanilla stable distro? I'm troubleshooting a system where 'dglob -a | wc -l' returns 1556, which seems rather low. |
| 08:54.29 | ArtVandalae | Coke, yeah Epiphany is suited for that, and will be even better suited when it moves to Webkit. There's also another even lighter (but still alpha), Midori browser or something like that |
| 08:54.59 | Obligatory | Also 'wc -l /var/lib/dpkg/available' returns 32643: on my 'unstable' system, that's more like 500,000. |
| 08:55.07 | jfg | Coke: ok, but i'm wondering if using dpkg --set-selections will do the right thing. Ie installing all the packages that were on the other machine. I think it will just mark packages as if they were istalled and that's all. My question is how can i do to use this things properly, cause i'm not sure of their behaviour. |
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| 08:55.49 | Arafangion | ArtVandalae: Epiphany is moving to webkit? Excellent. |
| 08:56.02 | xoz | and maybe IE |
| 08:56.17 | ArtVandalae | Arafangion, yep. Has been for the last 1-2 releases, but it's not ready yet. |
| 08:56.30 | Arafangion | Sweet. |
| 08:57.07 | jelly-home | jfg: s/were installed/were selected to be installed in dselect/ |
| 08:57.13 | jfg | Coke: i think i've found what i was searching : apt-get dselect-upgrade |
| 08:57.31 | jelly-home | jfg: also, /msg dpkg aptitude clone |
| 08:58.28 | jfg | jelly-home: there is no aptitude clone option in help or manpage |
| 08:58.38 | Coke | jfg: I didn't know a package could be marked as installed without being installed. |
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| 08:58.54 | jelly-home | jfg: I haven't said anything about any option in help or manpage |
| 08:59.16 | jelly-home | jfg: it's an irc command |
| 08:59.20 | Coke | Arafangion: why is webkit so sweet? |
| 09:00.05 | tazle | apparently libnss-ldapd "just works", whereas libnss-ldap "just doesn't work" (for me, anyway) |
| 09:00.09 | jfg | jelly-home: oooh ok, thanks ! |
| 09:00.22 | Arafangion | Coke: Why is sugar sweet? |
| 09:00.39 | Obligatory | Anybody? |
| 09:00.44 | jelly-home | Bueller? |
| 09:00.44 | Coke | Arafangion: because our brain sends seratonin rewarding us for feeding on a calory rich substance |
| 09:00.49 | Coke | Arafangion: now for your explanation. |
| 09:01.24 | tazle | I couldn't figure out what was wrong with libnss-ldap either - it just refused to do any networking when used as a regular user, but worked happily when used as root |
| 09:01.41 | Arafangion | Coke: Because it is a clean, well designed, fast and memory efficient rendering engine also used on windows (gChrome) and mac os x (Safari). |
| 09:01.42 | jelly-home | Obligatory: incomplete sources.list seems like a good guess; I have no idea what "dglob" is though |
| 09:02.30 | Coke | Arafangion: well, it sure isn't clean. I evaluated it, I wanted the HTML rendering portion, but it turns out that just like with Gecko you have to have the whole 1G SDK to use 100k of sources. |
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| 09:02.56 | man_in_ltop | waves |
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| 09:03.06 | man_in_ltop | i've forgotten, what's the kernel commandline argument for the libata generic mode? |
| 09:03.13 | Arafangion | Coke: Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. |
| 09:03.14 | Obligatory | jelly-home, 'apt-get install dglob', handy little tool for finding package names. |
| 09:03.27 | Coke | Arafangion: no sane person likes bloated things. |
| 09:03.46 | Arafangion | Coke: Bloated without reason, sure. |
| 09:03.51 | Coke | Arafangion: in any case, I pressume Gecko is used in Iceweasel. |
| 09:03.58 | Coke | Arafangion: there's never a good reason to bloat. |
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| 09:04.07 | man_in_ltop | iceweasel is gecko, yes |
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| 09:04.17 | Coke | man_in_ltop: then why is it so much slower than firefox? |
| 09:04.30 | jelly-home | Coke: iceweasel? |
| 09:04.33 | Coke | yes. |
| 09:04.38 | man_in_ltop | Coke, iceweasel IS firefox |
| 09:04.42 | Arafangion | Coke: Iceweasel /is/ firefox... |
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| 09:04.46 | Coke | Yes yes, people say that, but that's just bs |
| 09:04.48 | jelly-home | that's interesting |
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| 09:04.53 | man_in_ltop | it's firefox with all the mozilla crap removed |
| 09:04.56 | Coke | Whatever it is, Iceweasel is around 10-20 times slower |
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| 09:05.10 | man_in_ltop | Coke, what's your comparison? |
| 09:05.13 | jelly-home | Coke: using the same profile? |
| 09:05.23 | Arafangion | Coke: Which versions are you comparing? |
| 09:05.24 | Coke | man_in_ltop: I can only pressume they both use .mozilla |
| 09:05.39 | Arafangion | Personally, I use Opera. |
| 09:05.40 | esthar | I just installed fglrx from sid and have indirect renderin |
| 09:05.42 | esthar | How can I enable it/fix this issue? |
| 09:05.43 | Coke | iceweasel 3.0.1 with firefox 2...hmmmm, gotta check |
| 09:05.44 | esthar | Also my mouse button seems to click multiple times really really fast after purging xorg packages and reinstalling 7.3 from sid |
| 09:05.53 | man_in_ltop | lol, firefox 2, that's not a comparison |
| 09:06.00 | Coke | man_in_ltop: no, it's firefox 3 |
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| 09:06.24 | Arafangion | Coke: For which sites? |
| 09:06.30 | man_in_ltop | Coke, is your firefox 3 running on the same computer as the iceweasel 3? |
| 09:06.48 | Coke | Anyway, firefox is on an old 1.8Ghz 32-bit machine, I surf on it VIA X11 sometimes when I think that my local Iceweasel on a 2.2Ghz 64-bit system is too slow. |
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| 09:07.18 | Arafangion | Coke: 32-bits vs 64 bits... Not a fair comparison. |
| 09:07.19 | Coke | man_in_ltop: no, I have no firefox on this computer, but it's Debian testing on both machines. This one (the 64-bit one) is A LOT faster than the 32-bit one. |
| 09:07.20 | man_in_ltop | Coke, that's not a valid comparison |
| 09:07.28 | Coke | man_in_ltop: yes it is |
| 09:07.31 | man_in_ltop | no it isn't |
| 09:07.35 | man_in_ltop | as Arafangion says |
| 09:07.38 | Coke | I compare speed, Iceweasel lost. |
| 09:07.50 | Coke | man_in_ltop: I'm not making a scientific benchmark, I'm trying to use my computer as a work tool |
| 09:07.50 | Arafangion | Coke: 64 bits does not mean that calculations are faster. |
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| 09:07.59 | man_in_ltop | Coke, so use it as a work tool |
| 09:08.00 | Coke | Arafangion: no, but generally the whole system IS faster |
| 09:08.04 | Coke | man_in_ltop: can't. |
| 09:08.08 | Coke | man_in_ltop: iceweasel is too slow |
| 09:08.22 | man_in_ltop | i seriously doubt it's too slow to be usable |
| 09:08.25 | Coke | Iceweasel is slower today on my computer than Mozilla was 5 years ago. |
| 09:08.32 | Arafangion | Coke: How much RAM do you have? |
| 09:08.37 | Coke | man_in_ltop: it's so slow that I prefer using firefox via X11 on the computer across the desk |
| 09:08.39 | man_in_ltop | Coke, so install mozilla from 5 years ago. should be faster, right? |
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| 09:09.37 | Coke | I've experienced the same tardiness in Iceweasel at home on a 2.5Ghz 64-bit quad core with 4G RAM |
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| 09:09.43 | man_in_ltop | there are multiple considerations here |
| 09:09.46 | Coke | I chose to install 32-bit compat libs and use firefox instead because of that. |
| 09:10.02 | Coke | My friend had the same Iceweasel problem on his laptops. |
| 09:10.14 | Coke | He also chose to install 32-bit compat libs and use firefox instead. |
| 09:10.16 | man_in_ltop | 1) iceweasel/firefox is essentially a 32bit program that's been ported to 64bit. it is not optimised in any way for 64bit processing |
| 09:10.38 | Arafangion | 2) A 64-bit program will require more space and use somewhat more memory. |
| 09:10.48 | man_in_ltop | 3) if you have nspluginwrapper, it's running 32bit code. this is required for adobe/macromedia flash |
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| 09:11.02 | man_in_ltop | that fact alone would slow it down substantially |
| 09:11.08 | Coke | man_in_ltop: as a comparison, when opening new tabs in firefox it takes no time at all, but iceweasel always has a 0.8-1.5s delay, if the new tab has a lot of content it takes longer. |
| 09:11.16 | Obligatory | jelly-home, see http://rafb.net/p/TdZ6B916.html for a look at that system's source.list |
| 09:11.24 | Coke | man_in_ltop: it was slow before nspluginwrapper was installed |
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| 09:11.52 | Coke | man_in_ltop: I'm telling you, there's something with Iceweasel that makes it slower than simply running the 32-bit version. |
| 09:12.05 | man_in_ltop | Coke, try it with a clean profile on both systems |
| 09:12.15 | man_in_ltop | also check cpu load on both systems |
| 09:12.17 | Coke | man_in_ltop: I had a clean system on both my work systems |
| 09:12.28 | Coke | man_in_ltop: CPU load is on max while Iceweasel is doing things. |
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| 09:12.51 | man_in_ltop | Coke, now go print off the source code for firefox 3.0 and iceweasel 3.0 |
| 09:13.09 | bolt-work | ... |
| 09:13.10 | man_in_ltop | Coke, roll them up in to a cyllander and stick them somewhere uncomfortable |
| 09:13.13 | Coke | man_in_ltop: some pages that work just fine in Firefox are so slow in Iceweasel that there's a 2-5s delay when typing into text areas. |
| 09:13.57 | et | Coke: try using a different monitor |
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| 09:14.05 | Obligatory | Anyway, with those sources updated, the 'stable' system I'm troubleshooting seems to have to few packages available. Puzzling. |
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| 09:14.30 | Coke | man_in_ltop: I'm just saying that Iceweasel does not give people a very good impression of surfing on Debian |
| 09:14.43 | Obligatory | Is anybody running stable (etch) here? |
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| 09:15.01 | Tapout | what's that command that shows what aptitude package provides: libstdc++.so.5 |
| 09:15.04 | bolt-work | Obligatory: no. noone. |
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| 09:15.14 | bolt-work | Obligatory: we never use this distribution. we prefer cake. |
| 09:15.19 | et | Tapout: apt-file |
| 09:15.21 | dtoch | Obligatory: Me |
| 09:15.26 | et | Tapout: or dpkg-query |
| 09:15.31 | Tapout | thanks |
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| 09:15.52 | bolt-work | !tell Obligatory about ask |
| 09:16.14 | c64zottel | hello |
| 09:16.18 | c64zottel | i am sitting here in front of a machine with a CERC Raid controller, trying to install the latest stable debian, i know the modules to load for the devices |
| 09:16.27 | c64zottel | but, debian is not going on, i stuck in the Detect disks screen |
| 09:16.33 | Obligatory | dtoch, thanks. Could you tell me what number 'dglob -a | wc -l' prints on your system? |
| 09:16.40 | c64zottel | i verified that the modules are load, i can also see the disk under /dev/hdc |
| 09:16.45 | Peanut | Hi, good morning. I'm trying to create a Debian package for a 10G ethernet driver. I've built debian packages before with debuild and fakeroot, but can't quite figure out what the correct way would be to have the makefile do a 'make install' in a place other than / - any hints? |
| 09:17.46 | et | c64zottel: is your controller supported by the kernel you're trying to use? |
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| 09:18.36 | c64zottel | et, hm, it's a xeon GenuineIntel, and the 64bit debian version |
| 09:18.51 | c64zottel | i am not sure if the xeon has 64bit's |
| 09:20.24 | jelly-home | Obligatory: broken mirror? What about aptitude search '~n.'|wc -l ? |
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| 09:20.49 | jelly-home | Obligatory: available file isn't always up to date |
| 09:21.05 | c64zottel | et: yes it, as i said, the module is loaded |
| 09:21.08 | c64zottel | megaraid |
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| 09:21.36 | c64zottel | and i saw a suse running on this system, with this modul |
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| 09:21.57 | Obligatory | jelly-home, 'aptitude: invalid option -- n |
| 09:22.16 | jelly-home | Obligatory: works on _my_ stable machine |
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| 09:22.53 | jelly-home | Obligatory: dpkg -l aptitude libc6|tail -2 |
| 09:23.17 | Obligatory | jelly-home, interesting, on this system it prints the help. I'd assume your system is OK, and this one is not. |
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| 09:24.12 | esthar | Hi my mouse is doing funny funny things since reinstalling X.Org. I might be missing a package or something wierd configuration-wise don't know |
| 09:24.15 | esthar | it moves fine, but clicking is very off |
| 09:24.17 | esthar | It's like a single physical click generates many software clicks at once |
| 09:24.19 | esthar | So I have to click and hold down |
| 09:24.26 | esthar | because releasing the button acts as a click as well |
| 09:24.26 | Obligatory | jelly-home, 'dpkg: unkown option --l'... |
| 09:24.32 | esthar | this happens with right-clicking as well |
| 09:24.37 | man_in_ltop | bah, i can't remember how i installed lenny on this system |
| 09:25.21 | jelly-home | Obligatory: "--l" ? |
| 09:25.25 | Aggro__ | Peanut: http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ch-modify.en.html#s-destdir |
| 09:26.25 | jelly-home | Obligatory: you might have a pasting failure going on |
| 09:26.38 | Obligatory | jelly-home, aha, '-l', that works: shows aptitude 0.4.4-4 and libc6 2.3.6.ds1-13etch7 |
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| 09:27.12 | Obligatory | jelly-home, no pasting, two PCs. |
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| 09:27.59 | jelly-home | Obligatory: and they're not networked? Now try typing in aptitude search '~n.' correctly |
| 09:28.12 | man_in_ltop | i remember i had to blacklist ahci and force libata in to generic ide mode |
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| 09:29.58 | Obligatory | jelly-home, argh, I typed a '-n' instead of '~n'. Good call... says 20733, that's more like it... |
| 09:30.43 | jelly-home | comparable to 20801 here |
| 09:31.27 | Obligatory | Hmm, 'dglob' is broken or not updated correctly... |
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| 09:32.02 | man_in_ltop | yay, i got it |
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| 09:34.20 | jmtechy | is there any screenshots of debian 5.0? |
| 09:34.43 | jmtechy | i got it from a linux magazine and just wondering screenshots of it |
| 09:34.53 | Peanut | Thanks, Aggro |
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| 09:35.42 | bolt-work | jmtechy: screenshots as in..? it all depends on what you chose to install |
| 09:36.22 | bolt-work | jmtechy: the only distros where screenshots are of any use are the ones that install a whole lot of crap you don't need by default |
| 09:37.00 | bolt-work | jmtechy: i'm sure you can find installation screenshots somewhere. that should be pretty much the same for everyone :) |
| 09:37.14 | jmtechy | just in general |
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| 09:38.24 | korhojoa | Anyone know of a good monitoring script that will restart things when the load on a server decreases? |
| 09:38.42 | Arafangion | korhojoa: Why should things be arbituarily restarted just because the load has decreased? |
| 09:38.51 | jmtechy | before i try i want to know looks feel etc |
| 09:39.15 | jmtechy | does it have kde4? |
| 09:39.27 | Obligatory | Gotta run, tnx guys... |
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| 09:42.43 | bolt-work | jmtechy: if you install kde4, it will look and feel like kde4. if you install gnome, it will look and feel gnomy. if you install just a console, it will pretty much feel like you're working on the console, and it will look leet |
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| 09:49.25 | Peanut | Aggro__: of course this software doesn't come with things like a $PREFIX or $DESTDIR :-( |
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| 09:51.32 | DGnome | jmtechy: debian uses gnome per default, gnome.org has screenshots, and you can install any windowmanager/environment that's available :) |
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| 09:58.59 | jmtechy | ahh ok np |
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| 10:04.42 | nirupama] | I have 10 GB free space in HD |
| 10:04.55 | nirupama] | but when installing that comes as 5 gb in one part and 5 gb in another |
| 10:05.02 | nirupama] | both are not getting clubbed |
| 10:05.09 | nirupama] | how to club the free spaces |
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| 10:05.55 | petemc | you can set up partitions however you want in the installer |
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| 10:06.45 | nirupama] | petemc, the free space comes in two locations how to make it one |
| 10:06.49 | nirupama] | I dont get |
| 10:08.50 | petemc | theres a simple interface to the partition editor, you just need to delete your existing partitions and create a new one |
| 10:09.00 | petemc | read the install guide if you're struggling |
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| 10:09.30 | nirupama] | petemc, so you mean deleting is the only option to club a partition |
| 10:09.55 | petemc | no, you can often merge them |
| 10:09.57 | nirupama] | petemc, I want that when there are two free spaces visible how to club that to one |
| 10:10.09 | nirupama] | petemc, I am now in debian-installer |
| 10:10.13 | nirupama] | so how i will do |
| 10:10.18 | nirupama] | at the time of installation |
| 10:10.26 | petemc | what kind of filesystem is on the partitions currently? |
| 10:10.53 | petemc | im not sure you can use the installer to dynamically resize them without losing data |
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| 10:12.49 | nirupama] | petemc, ext3 |
| 10:13.54 | petemc | nirupama]: i would check the install guide to see if thats supported, its not something ive done |
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| 10:25.06 | E-bola | If my /var/log/daemon.log gets deleted, what is responsible for recreating it? |
| 10:25.17 | E-bola | Restarting mysql doesnt log anything to it, and doesnt help to restart syslog |
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| 10:26.45 | Tapout | mysql usually logs to hostname.err |
| 10:26.55 | Tapout | for example, /var/lib/mysql/yahoo.com.err |
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| 10:27.22 | E-bola | in debian? |
| 10:27.51 | Tapout | in general |
| 10:27.59 | E-bola | I dont think thats how the debian packages are setup |
| 10:28.01 | Tapout | connect to mysql, and do: show variables like 'data%'; |
| 10:28.07 | Tapout | find where the data directory is, then cd /path |
| 10:28.10 | jelly-home | this isn't #general, though |
| 10:28.11 | Tapout | and look for the error file |
| 10:28.17 | E-bola | | datadir | /var/lib/mysql/ | |
| 10:28.30 | Tapout | jelly, what!? |
| 10:28.32 | themill | Tapout: the db is in /var/lib/mysql/ not the log |
| 10:28.34 | Tapout | it's not general? |
| 10:29.02 | jelly-home | Tapout: this channel isn't |
| 10:29.22 | E-bola | So back to my question hehe |
| 10:29.33 | Tapout | E-bola, check .. /var/log/mysql |
| 10:29.35 | E-bola | Whats responsible for recreating missing syslog logfiles? |
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| 10:29.44 | jelly-home | E-bola: tried restarting sysklogd instead? |
| 10:29.53 | E-bola | jelly: yep and klogd |
| 10:30.08 | jelly-home | E-bola: some are recreated at logrotate time |
| 10:30.14 | E-bola | Tapout: that directory contains the binary logs, not the startup/error stuff im looking for |
| 10:30.39 | E-bola | jelly-home: but i know mysql writes to daemon.log on startup/shutdown. So untill logrotate runs this info is lost? :/ |
| 10:31.05 | Tapout | E-bola: mysqladmin variables | grep log_error |
| 10:31.35 | E-bola | Tapout: apears to be empty |
| 10:32.11 | Tapout | reference manual as to what happens during that time. I know that on my boxes it's set.. |
| 10:32.42 | jelly-home | E-bola: check the open files of the syslogd process; if you have merely reloaded it, it could be still writing to the now deleted file |
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| 10:34.24 | jelly-home | E-bola: lsof -p `pgrep syslogd` |
| 10:35.07 | E-bola | jelly: it doesnt apear to |
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| 10:35.35 | E-bola | It does have a syslogd 1081 root mem REG 0,0 0 [heap] (stat: No such file or directory) |
| 10:35.43 | E-bola | line though, not sure if that has any significance |
| 10:36.04 | jelly-home | no |
| 10:36.37 | jelly-home | E-bola: is the daemon.log line in /etc/syslog.conf uncommented? |
| 10:36.48 | E-bola | It logs to the syslog file in /var/log/ correctly, but the daemon file is missing and not getting logged to |
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| 10:37.05 | E-bola | jelly-home: hmm wth no its commented |
| 10:37.10 | jelly-home | well. |
| 10:37.45 | jelly-home | !blame Tapout |
| 10:37.45 | dpkg | blames shreaker_ and Tapout for all the evil in the world |
| 10:37.49 | E-bola | but how on earth did it get commented? |
| 10:37.52 | E-bola | gets scared hehe |
| 10:38.04 | jelly-home | the butler did it |
| 10:38.13 | Tapout | this isn't .. #oprah .. |
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| 10:39.23 | jelly-home | Tapout: the drama sometimes resembles it, especially if no ops are around |
| 10:40.00 | Tapout | good |
| 10:40.05 | E-bola | jelly-home: Any idea if a package could have commented it? |
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| 10:41.45 | jelly-home | E-bola: it shouldn't have; messing with other package conffiles is prohibited by policy |
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| 10:48.38 | k-man_ | is there a tool i can use for burning multiple directories to a dvd from the command line? |
| 10:49.53 | dtcrshr | k-god |
| 10:49.54 | dtcrshr | k-man_ |
| 10:50.00 | dtcrshr | u may create an iso image first |
| 10:50.04 | dtcrshr | and then burn it to disk |
| 10:50.21 | k-man_ | there is no tool that will burn directly to the dvd? |
| 10:50.22 | dtcrshr | actually, i make a backup here on my job that does exactly this issue :) |
| 10:50.27 | dtcrshr | many |
| 10:50.33 | dtcrshr | gui tool u say? |
| 10:50.34 | petemc | growisofs |
| 10:50.41 | E-bola | jelly-home: thanks for the pointers |
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| 10:52.11 | k-man_ | thanks petemc |
| 10:52.22 | petemc | np |
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| 10:53.33 | dtcrshr | i had some troubles with special characters burning directly from the folders |
| 10:53.40 | dtcrshr | so i need to make an iso first |
| 10:53.41 | dtcrshr | mkisofs -V"$datah" -gui -A unesp -p stati -iso-level 3 -l -r -hide-rr-moved -J -joliet-long -graft-points -o /backup/iso/biblioteca.iso /backup/iso/tmp |
| 10:53.57 | dtcrshr | then i burn it |
| 10:53.57 | dtcrshr | cdrecord -v speed=4 dev=/dev/hdd -data /backup/iso/biblioteca.iso |
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| 10:54.17 | k-man_ | ok, thanks |
| 10:54.25 | Trewas | hehe, nice and fair vote about releasing lenny with sourceless firmwares... manoj already decided that delaying is the only option by requiring 3:1 for any other choice |
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| 10:58.00 | bain | can anybody tell me the process to get your package included in debian? |
| 10:58.30 | bain | i mean i have a project that fedora already has an rpm for in rawhide but debian still does not... |
| 10:59.58 | dtcrshr | [bain]: whats about your package? |
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| 11:02.31 | apt_get | Hi |
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| 11:03.25 | apt_get | I have recently install Debian lenny here... |
| 11:03.25 | apt_get | but i have a problem. I cant connect with ssh inside terminal to other server. |
| 11:03.25 | apt_get | And others clients cant connect here, in lenny. |
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| 11:03.39 | apt_get | it ask for password... and then freeze |
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| 11:05.31 | apt_get | even in a tty term, It answer for password and sshclient freeze |
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| 11:07.31 | petemc | apt_get: you can use ssh -vvv user@host , if that doesnt help, you can run the ssh daemon in debug mode |
| 11:08.15 | hever | Hi, something goes wrong wit a simple perl script, netcat and output redirection: http://pastebin.ca/1250193. The script listens for input and processes it but the output is displayed at end of script and not when I need it. Is the perlscript or the output redirection wrong ? |
| 11:08.39 | apt_get | petemc: i have try it.. |
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| 11:09.54 | apt_get | debug1: Authentication succeeded (password). |
| 11:10.10 | apt_get | debug2: callback done |
| 11:10.10 | apt_get | debug2: channel 0: open confirm rwindow 0 rmax 32768 |
| 11:10.12 | apt_get | stop here |
| 11:10.47 | apt_get | CTRL+C or other way dont works... i need to kill the ssh client process |
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| 11:15.55 | frukt_ | Hi, i hope this is the right place to ask this question - On my debian etch box, I noticed that Google Maps is very slow (FF3) and laggy, and top shows that X is hoarding all CPU time. Any hints as how to fix that? Perhaps enable some sort of hardware acceleration (although the closed ATI driver seems to be installed)? |
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| 11:17.56 | erawfish | foka: glxinfo check if direct rendering is working |
| 11:18.16 | erawfish | frukt_: ^^ |
| 11:18.20 | foka | erawfish, ? |
| 11:18.29 | erawfish | foka: nothing |
| 11:18.40 | foka | erawfish, It is working for me. :-) |
| 11:19.02 | foka | erawfish, Has been working for some time now. (intel driver under X.Org) |
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| 11:22.57 | frukt_ | hmm, fglrxinfo says: OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect |
| 11:24.13 | frukt_ | err, but what does OpenGL have to do with Google Maps (or rendering Firefox) anyway? |
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| 11:25.02 | jsaak | google maps (the app) runs over opengl |
| 11:25.32 | jsaak | firefox dont |
| 11:25.44 | koollman | both can benefit from direct rendering, though |
| 11:25.56 | frukt_ | therefore, all firefox rendering runs over OpenGL |
| 11:26.24 | erawfish | frukt_: no |
| 11:26.27 | frukt_ | Google maps is just another webapp composed of HTML and lots of Javascript logic, right |
| 11:26.30 | frukt_ | ? |
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| 11:26.32 | koollman | more like, if direct rendering is possible, both opengl and other toolkits will use it |
| 11:26.38 | erawfish | but you use most probably vesa. which doesn't even use 2D accelleration |
| 11:27.06 | erawfish | google maps is a desktop app. what you see in your browser and what in google maps are different things |
| 11:27.16 | apt_get | I cant connect to other sshserver. why? only in my owns |
| 11:27.25 | apt_get | its freezen the terminal |
| 11:27.42 | frukt_ | Google maps is running in my browser, I'm not sure which google maps you mean |
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| 11:28.07 | erawfish | oh. google calls it "google earth" |
| 11:28.17 | erawfish | again: you probably use vesa. no 2D acceleratin -> slooooow |
| 11:28.28 | frukt_ | Right, how could I enable HW acceleration? Generate a new X.org conf with aticonfig? |
| 11:28.38 | erawfish | install the proper driver.what videocard exactly and how did you install the driver? |
| 11:28.46 | frukt_ | I didn't |
| 11:28.50 | frukt_ | It's my work machine |
| 11:28.56 | erawfish | someone did |
| 11:29.06 | frukt_ | someone did, sure |
| 11:29.18 | erawfish | then tell that someone to do it. as you said, you think the ati binary driver is instaleld |
| 11:29.26 | erawfish | you have a basis for this reasoning I hipe |
| 11:29.29 | erawfish | *hope |
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| 11:29.37 | frukt_ | that someone to do it would be me |
| 11:29.48 | erawfish | then answer my question |
| 11:29.57 | Radek | what question? |
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| 11:30.21 | frukt_ | I did - I said that I didn't install the driver |
| 11:30.32 | erawfish | either answer my question or help yourself |
| 11:30.57 | frukt_ | which question was that? |
| 11:31.08 | dtcrshr | (09:28) (erawfish) install the proper driver.what videocard exactly and how did you install the driver? |
| 11:31.09 | dtcrshr | (09:28) (frukt_) I didn't |
| 11:31.27 | erawfish | frukt_: waste of time. do some reading comprehension. goodbye |
| 11:31.41 | frukt_ | wow, friendly people here on #debian |
| 11:31.57 | erawfish | ...what videocard exactly ... |
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| 11:32.09 | erawfish | if you can't read this, it's a waste of time |
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| 11:33.08 | jelly | frukt_: yeah, expect arrogance and flaming. also, solving problems, sometimes. |
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| 11:35.50 | Masster | dino dino |
| 11:36.35 | Meaw | Masster, yes yes! |
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| 11:37.16 | apt_get | I really dont know what to do |
| 11:37.29 | Masster | to do what? |
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| 11:39.08 | apt_get | I have installed Denian Lenny here |
| 11:39.18 | apt_get | then, i want to connect to another host, by ssh |
| 11:39.26 | apt_get | ssh user@host |
| 11:39.36 | apt_get | then the system ask me for a password |
| 11:40.09 | apt_get | I enter the password |
| 11:40.18 | Meaw | ...and? |
| 11:40.20 | frukt_ | anyway, if there are any friendlier people here to gui |
| 11:40.23 | apt_get | hehehe then? |
| 11:40.27 | apt_get | freeze the tty |
| 11:40.35 | apt_get | need to kill ssh process in another tty |
| 11:40.44 | frukt_ | ... guide me through enabling hardware acceleration, the relevant lspci entry is |
| 11:40.45 | frukt_ | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AS [Radeon 9550] |
| 11:41.22 | Meaw | apt_get, try ssh -l user host |
| 11:41.26 | apt_get | the only way i cant connect to anotiher host is with putty in linux... |
| 11:41.27 | apt_get | with terminal... or directly by tty, dont work |
| 11:41.58 | apt_get | 'the only way i cant' = the only way i CAN |
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| 11:44.21 | Zvpun | http://paste.debian.net/20759/ I dont understand how it is possible to have permissions on a vfat file system. I got one directory with 555 while everything else has 777, the filesystem is mounted as vfat. |
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| 11:45.13 | frukt_ | FAT32 doesn't support any permissions AFAIK |
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| 11:45.37 | slicer_ | frukt_: just install the fglrx package from the debian repo |
| 11:45.56 | apt_get | It wait here: |
| 11:45.56 | apt_get | debug2: callback done |
| 11:45.56 | apt_get | debug2: channel 0: open confirm rwindow 0 rmax 32768 |
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| 11:50.05 | frukt_ | slicer_: fglrx-driver, fglrx-kernel, fglrx-kernel-src have already been installed |
| 11:51.15 | slicer_ | put fglrx in xorg.conf Section Device, Driver "fglrx" there maybe vesa there or radeon. just replace with fglrx |
| 11:51.31 | apt_get | i will be crazy. |
| 11:51.31 | apt_get | hahaha |
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| 11:53.13 | frukt_ | what's a good place to paste text snippets? |
| 11:53.22 | slicer_ | pastebin |
| 11:53.32 | slicer_ | google pastebin |
| 11:54.17 | frukt_ | ok, some rooms on freenode don't like pastebin |
| 11:54.35 | slicer_ | it's ok here, or try rafb |
| 11:55.04 | frukt_ | anyway, the relevant section looks like this http://pastebin.com/daba32ad |
| 11:55.58 | slicer_ | it's right |
| 11:56.02 | frukt_ | wait ... |
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| 11:56.13 | petemc | apt_get: you say you can use putty to connect to the remote host? |
| 11:56.21 | frukt_ | is the X config file XF86Config-4 or xorg.conf? |
| 11:56.45 | frukt_ | ... on debian etch |
| 11:56.53 | petemc | xorg |
| 11:57.20 | frukt_ | sure? |
| 11:57.26 | slicer_ | yeah |
| 11:57.35 | frukt_ | i just read somewhere that debian uses XF86Config-4 |
| 11:57.39 | frukt_ | but ok |
| 11:57.48 | slicer_ | sarge uses Xfree86 not etch |
| 11:58.26 | frukt_ | right |
| 11:58.52 | frukt_ | anyway, I don't see what the problem could be ... direct rendering is not available for some reason |
| 11:58.59 | ma3x | how do i install java for iceweasel? |
| 11:59.39 | slicer_ | !tell ma3x about java |
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| 12:00.13 | frukt_ | perhaps you could have a quick look at the whole xorg.conf? might be some glaring error I'm missing: http://pastebin.com/d55f52d3b |
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| 12:00.58 | Hick0rd | Hello, Is it possible to give some non-technical people the ability to create email addresses via SSH? |
| 12:01.21 | petemc | with the correct training anything is possible |
| 12:01.38 | petemc | it really depends how your mta checks for users |
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| 12:03.36 | colouragga | Hey all, I have arno-iptables-firewall running and have added TCP port 8001, however, when I try to visit this port from the internet I get "the server is not responding". |
| 12:03.47 | colouragga | When I lynx in localhost:8001 it does however work. |
| 12:03.50 | colouragga | Any thoughts? |
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| 12:04.26 | slicer_ | frukt_: why do u have all those devices? |
| 12:04.41 | petemc | colouragga: is whatever is listening on 8001 doing so on all interfaces? |
| 12:05.05 | apt_get | Its a ssh-client bug |
| 12:05.16 | colouragga | That's a good one, it should, I'll look into that :) |
| 12:05.44 | ma3x | slicer_: i installed the sun-java6-plugin but it's still not working |
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| 12:06.09 | colouragga | petemc: Correct, thank you :) |
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| 12:06.19 | frukt_ | slicer_: i'm not sure. as i mentioned before, it's the machine at my workplace and I haven't set it up |
| 12:06.49 | slicer_ | ma3x: did u close iceweasel and restart it again? |
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| 12:07.02 | ma3x | slicer_: sorry, i have static version of firefox. what do i have to do? |
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| 12:08.57 | slicer_ | ma3x: just apt-get install iceweasel |
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| 12:13.45 | koskoz | hi |
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| 12:14.07 | koskoz | i've got a problem when i try to launch xterm, i've got an error tell me that DISPLAY is not set |
| 12:14.32 | koskoz | I tried export DISPLAY=:"0.0" but it doesn't work |
| 12:14.47 | koskoz | if someone has the solution it will be useful, thanks |
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| 12:18.04 | lopLi | serial port hack via internal hw? |
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| 12:20.11 | liable | lopLi: eh? |
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| 12:20.48 | apt_get | Hye, and about ssh client that wont connect to any other host ? |
| 12:20.58 | apt_get | it hangs on: debug2: channel 0: open confirm rwindow 0 rma |
| 12:21.06 | apt_get | i really dont know waht to do |
| 12:21.15 | petemc | apt_get: did you say putty works? |
| 12:21.54 | apt_get | Putty works |
| 12:22.10 | apt_get | but even if i reboot and enter in a terminal. like tty2 |
| 12:22.11 | petemc | apt_get: can you run the daemon on the host in debug mode? |
| 12:22.13 | apt_get | dont work |
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| 12:22.20 | apt_get | yes i can |
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| 12:23.27 | petemc | so perhaps try that for more info |
| 12:23.36 | petemc | also check the bts for openssh-client |
| 12:25.36 | apt_get | petemc: in other server side, the debugs shows me |
| 12:25.37 | apt_get | debug1: session_open: session 0: link with channel 0 |
| 12:25.37 | apt_get | debug1: server_input_channel_open: confirm session |
| 12:25.37 | apt_get | debug1: server_input_global_request: rtype no-more-sessions@openssh.com want_reply 0 |
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| 12:26.01 | petemc | dont paste here |
| 12:26.09 | apt_get | ok i see now sorry |
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| 12:27.48 | enouf | koskoz: remove the (misplaced) quotes |
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| 12:28.07 | koskoz | enouf : export DISPLAY=:0.0 ? |
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| 12:28.13 | enouf | yep |
| 12:29.14 | koskoz | enouf, I already tried that |
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| 12:29.54 | petemc | what kind of display is it? my svideo output on a nvidia card is 0.1 |
| 12:30.19 | koskoz | I don't know, I'm a noob :/ |
| 12:30.27 | JyZyXEL | wtf /dev/dsp: No such file or directory |
| 12:30.36 | JyZyXEL | how can i not have /dev/dsp |
| 12:30.43 | koskoz | I have a Ati Xpress 1150, with the last catalysts petemc |
| 12:31.01 | koskoz | *an |
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| 12:31.47 | whiles_ | Hi, do anybody knows a program able to excute a benchmark over my server? |
| 12:33.02 | SlayerXP | whiles_: what sort of benchmark? |
| 12:33.33 | whiles_ | sql, bandwidth |
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| 12:34.12 | SlayerXP | whiles_: memory bandwidth, network bandwidth, graphics bandwidth.... |
| 12:34.15 | enouf | koskoz: echo $DISPLAY |
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| 12:34.43 | koskoz | enouf, nothing appears |
| 12:34.52 | whiles_ | memory and network... because i have a server and i want to know how many users can tolerate |
| 12:34.52 | enouf | koskoz: then it's not set |
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| 12:35.06 | koskoz | yes, I know that ^^ |
| 12:35.12 | koskoz | this is why I ask how to set it ! |
| 12:35.17 | SlayerXP | whiles_: i don't think you're asking a realistic question. |
| 12:35.34 | enouf | koskoz: the way i told you should've set it |
| 12:35.44 | koskoz | nop :/ |
| 12:35.50 | koskoz | already tried |
| 12:35.51 | whiles_ | Can't i know how many users my server can tolerate? |
| 12:36.00 | enouf | koskoz: is X running? |
| 12:36.26 | enouf | koskoz: are you root user when doing these commands? |
| 12:36.51 | koskoz | enouf, yes and yes |
| 12:37.00 | petemc | koskoz: how did you log in to the machine? |
| 12:37.01 | enouf | well, stop that ;-) |
| 12:37.30 | koskoz | enouf: in fact when i set the display and after i do an echo, i can see the display I set |
| 12:37.42 | koskoz | but xterm always tell me the same error |
| 12:37.44 | enouf | ... |
| 12:37.52 | koskoz | petemc: with gdm |
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| 12:38.42 | enouf | koskoz: how are you trying to launch xterm? and are you using debian? if so, which release? |
| 12:38.57 | petemc | !root x |
| 12:38.58 | dpkg | If you need to run an X application as root (or another user), ask me about <sux> <gksu> <sshx> <mit-magic-cookie> <xauth> or look at kdesu and gksudo. Whatever you do, don't use <xhost> or try <running x as root>! |
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| 12:39.14 | petemc | koskoz: you need to learn to word your questions better |
| 12:39.18 | enouf | koskoz: and stop being root |
| 12:39.29 | koskoz | if i try to launch xterm via gnome, xterm just doesn't launch, if I try under tty xterm tells me that display is not set |
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| 12:39.44 | koskoz | i'm under debian lenny |
| 12:39.59 | koskoz | enouf: I tried under a normal user and under root |
| 12:40.15 | petemc | koskoz: how are you trying to launch it under gnome? |
| 12:40.16 | MaximB | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:40.33 | koskoz | petemc: I click on the icon |
| 12:40.34 | petemc | koskoz: do other terminals, such as gnome-terminal work? |
| 12:40.54 | koskoz | petemc: I havn't gnome-terminal |
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| 12:41.29 | petemc | you're sure about that? |
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| 12:41.39 | enouf | koskoz: are/did you remotely logged in through gdm? or are you at the machine you logged into? |
| 12:41.40 | petemc | try alt - f2 , gnome-terminal, enter |
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| 12:43.30 | MaximB | help ? |
| 12:43.32 | scorp2025 | hi, I'm looking for a old deb of openssh-server version 3.2 (around 2003 in debian). It should contain the severe root vulnerability. Any guess where I can find such vulnerable packages? |
| 12:43.53 | petemc | !sdn |
| 12:43.53 | dpkg | somebody said snapshots was an archive that contains all Debian packages uploaded since 2002, including those removed from the official archives because they were very buggy, unusable, broken, vulnerable or in some way undistributable. Much of 2004 was lost because of harddisk problems. See http://snapshot.debian.net/ for more information. |
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| 12:44.56 | petemc | MaximB: check the /topic for hints on key problems |
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| 12:45.35 | MaximB | (02:43:15 PM) You need to be a channel operator to do that |
| 12:45.49 | petemc | dont set the topic, read it |
| 12:46.16 | Arafangion | is rolling on the ground laughing. |
| 12:46.18 | MaximB | what's the command ? |
| 12:46.26 | petemc | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:46.40 | MaximB | yeah but how can I find topics with it ? |
| 12:46.45 | Arafangion | Without the preceeding space, and no additional arguments. |
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| 12:46.54 | scorp2025 | thx I already found that. However the only versions I can find are about 3.8 or something. Any alternatives? |
| 12:46.55 | petemc | !tell MaximB about no public key |
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| 12:47.29 | petemc | scorp2025: archive.debian.org perhaps |
| 12:47.53 | MaximB | petemc: cool , but how do I add those keys ? (cli mode) |
| 12:47.58 | MaximB | I have a key |
| 12:48.19 | frukt_ | i hope nobody minds if i pester #debian with my graphics problems for some more. anyway, card: radeon 9550; debian etch; fglrx driver is installed, xorg.conf seems to be fine |
| 12:48.32 | frukt_ | but direct rendering is disabled |
| 12:49.01 | petemc | MaximB: apt-key add , if you look at some of the other factoids mentioned in the one dpkg msgd you, you can find more info |
| 12:49.24 | frukt_ | and XOrg log shows that everything is going fine, the right modules are loaded, until this happens: http://pastebin.com/d3df3887d |
| 12:49.41 | koskoz | petemc: when i run the terminal with ctrl + alt + f2 and i try to launch xterm i've got exactly the same error |
| 12:49.44 | apt_get | petemc: its something about ssh client 5.1 new protocol. |
| 12:49.54 | frukt_ | unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_ENODEV" -> what's going on? btw, the agpgart module is loaded |
| 12:49.55 | petemc | koskoz: i said alt - f2 |
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| 12:50.08 | koskoz | sorry |
| 12:50.23 | enouf | frukt_: ldmod | grep edac |
| 12:50.28 | enouf | frukt_: ldmod | grep edac |
| 12:50.30 | enouf | crap |
| 12:50.33 | enouf | frukt_: lsmod | grep edac |
| 12:50.48 | liable | jesus christ. three media players installed and they all fail to play a fucking avi |
| 12:51.12 | koskoz | petemc: with alt + f2 I can launch xterm ! |
| 12:51.12 | enouf | liable: might want to rethink your choices? :-) |
| 12:51.14 | koskoz | wtf ? |
| 12:51.16 | frukt_ | enouf, |
| 12:51.16 | frukt_ | i82875p_edac 6276 0 |
| 12:51.16 | frukt_ | edac_mc 20624 1 i82875p_edac |
| 12:51.29 | enouf | frukt_: blacklist those |
| 12:51.36 | petemc | koskoz: so whatever that icom references doesnt work |
| 12:51.40 | petemc | icon |
| 12:51.41 | enouf | !tell frukt_ -about blacklist |
| 12:51.45 | frukt_ | could you elaborate please |
| 12:51.46 | frukt_ | ok |
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| 12:52.07 | koskoz | petemc: so why when i try to launch xterm under tty I have an error ? |
| 12:52.21 | petemc | koskoz: because you dont have a working X environment |
| 12:52.25 | MaximB | I do not have the command apt-key |
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| 12:52.47 | frukt_ | ok, i'll try that and restart X |
| 12:53.18 | enouf | frukt_: this discusses it http://openwetware.org/wiki/Computing/Linux/Ubuntu |
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| 12:54.09 | frukt_ | excellent, thanks |
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| 12:54.20 | enouf | np |
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| 12:55.52 | frukt_ | enouf, is there a difference whether the filename is blacklist or blacklist.local? |
| 12:56.01 | enouf | frukt_: nope |
| 12:56.28 | frukt_ | ok, thanks |
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| 12:59.31 | koskoz | how do I allow my user to use sudo ? |
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| 12:59.40 | petemc | koskoz: visudo |
| 12:59.49 | koskoz | yes, i'm in |
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| 13:00.03 | petemc | koskoz: you need to get into the habit of reading documentation |
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| 13:00.15 | napnap | hi all |
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| 13:01.22 | napnap | I've installed a debian etch with Xen on a DELL 750 server but network interface goes down after no internet activity |
| 13:01.29 | MrWax | Hi, I got a file with 100 lines that start with ID= |
| 13:01.35 | MrWax | I would like to remove all ID= on all lines |
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| 13:01.44 | MrWax | any efficient way I can do this with bash? |
| 13:01.49 | napnap | I don't know why, I see nothing to help me in log |
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| 13:02.51 | apt_get | its really bad |
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| 13:03.14 | apt_get | ssh client dont want connect to any other hosts. |
| 13:03.15 | apt_get | i have downgrade openssh to a old version and the error persist. |
| 13:03.23 | petemc | napnap: i had an issue with some dells and xen where impi caused the nic to stop working, this was 2 years ago tho |
| 13:03.25 | apt_get | remember that putty works |
| 13:03.42 | petemc | ipmi, even |
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| 13:04.10 | J_P | hi all |
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| 13:05.18 | CapaH | I am using Lenny on an AMD 64. I am using npviewer.bin for flash --- it continually crashes. Either I load a web page and I get just white space where the flash should be, or I get a grey box where the flash should be. It only works about 30% of the time. I have to continually pkill npviewer.bin, pkill firefox, and then restart firefox -- I am tempted to create a keyboard shortcut for this... does anyone have any ideas? |
| 13:05.20 | napnap | petemc: yes, what is this issue ? |
| 13:05.40 | petemc | napnap: the network would just die completely - http://mywiki.ncsa.uiuc.edu/wiki/Dell_PE1950_NIC_Firmware_Workaround |
| 13:05.51 | J_P | people, I have this process is ps: "python start-cm.py prod.cfg &" How I can killall this process with name ? like as killall -9 name.. |
| 13:06.39 | enouf | pkill, pgrep |
| 13:06.40 | petemc | napnap: but, as i said, this was a while ago |
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| 13:07.45 | napnap | petemc: yes, I see, but thx a lot, it's the begin of the way |
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| 13:09.09 | nerg0za | hi, anyone knows how to use tcpdstat ? |
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| 13:10.54 | enouf | J_P: you might just kill %1 if 'jobs' lists that as [1] |
| 13:12.09 | J_P | enouf: I try : pkill -9 "python start-cm.py prod.cfg &" but not kill |
| 13:13.05 | sphenxes01 | is it possilbe that vlc plays *.flv files on debian etch? |
| 13:13.22 | enouf | pkill python, but a) that will kill all python processes, and b) you might need elevated privs, depending - otherwise use the jobs method |
| 13:13.26 | apt_get | others hosts cant connected too in my linux |
| 13:13.46 | enouf | sphenxes01: sure, if mplayer can, vlc can |
| 13:14.02 | sphenxes01 | enouf, thanks, i will check mplayer |
| 13:14.10 | J_P | enouf: Yes, I can't kill all python process, I need only that.. this is my problem.. how do that.. |
| 13:14.19 | enouf | !tell sphenxes01 -about dmme |
| 13:14.28 | enouf | J_P: use PID |
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| 13:14.34 | enouf | or jobs |
| 13:14.49 | enouf | man pidof |
| 13:15.18 | J_P | enouf: yes, but pgrep "python start-cm.py prod.cfg &" not works too.. |
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| 13:15.50 | enouf | J_P: use ps aux, or pstree |
| 13:16.55 | J_P | enouf: yes, with ps ax | grep -i I have the line, not the PID, for get the pid I will need does a cut or someone... |
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| 13:17.58 | et | you can do a loop grepping over /proc/*/cmdline ;) |
| 13:19.44 | J_P | et: bad idea... :-) |
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| 13:20.05 | enouf | J_P: you don't need the cmdline, use pidof, and learn what to grep for, or .. use jobs |
| 13:22.37 | jelly | J_P: use pgrep / pkill |
| 13:23.03 | jelly | J_P: options -f and/or -x will be helpful |
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| 13:23.28 | enouf | sigh, [08:05:15] <enouf> pkill, pgrep |
| 13:23.55 | jelly | enouf: you in US now? |
| 13:24.01 | J_P | jelly and enouf this works fine: ps aux | grep -i start-cm.py | pidof -s python ;-) |
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| 13:24.07 | enouf | jelly: last time i checked ;-) |
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| 13:24.34 | enouf | !wb phorce1 |
| 13:24.34 | dpkg | O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay! phorce1 has returned! |
| 13:24.42 | jelly | enouf: for some reason I thought you were .be or .nl |
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| 13:25.39 | enouf | *shrugs* |
| 13:25.45 | itguru | [ERROR] Fatal error: Can't open and lock privilege tables: Incorrect file format 'host' - this means me and my debian box are going to spend a long time together today, doesn't it? |
| 13:25.47 | jelly | J_P: piping to pidof doesn't accomplish much; your line, I think, works the same as "pidof -s python" alone |
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| 13:26.15 | itguru | forgot to mention it's a mysql error |
| 13:26.45 | knittl | hi⦠i want to set up a debian server. i want to use sudo⦠(is this a valid question in a debian channel? :)) how do i do that under debian |
| 13:27.03 | J_P | jelly not if I have more apps starting with python app_name |
| 13:27.07 | sphenxes01 | enouf, thanks, ffplay works fine. |
| 13:28.07 | jelly | J_P: yes, even in that case. pidof doesn't care about its stdin. |
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| 13:29.40 | enouf | !tell knittl -about sudoers |
| 13:29.50 | phorce1 | knittl: install debian, install sudo, edit the sudoers file, use sudo |
| 13:29.56 | enouf | sphenxes01: np |
| 13:30.14 | knittl | phorce1: how to edit? i'm googling it atm |
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| 13:30.26 | CoolCold | visudo |
| 13:30.40 | CoolCold | it'll run nano |
| 13:30.49 | knittl | ok, great |
| 13:31.03 | enouf | if your EDITOR=nano |
| 13:31.04 | jelly | CoolCold: it'll run $EDITOR or sensible-editor |
| 13:31.23 | knittl | well. how can i enable sudo only for user user1? |
| 13:31.24 | CoolCold | yeah, but all time default editor was nano |
| 13:31.35 | CoolCold | thanks god not vi(m) |
| 13:31.35 | jelly | ED IS THE STANDARD EDITOR |
| 13:31.57 | phorce1 | we can tell from the name what visudo *USED* to run on most systems by default. |
| 13:32.00 | jelly | !start an editor war |
| 13:32.00 | dpkg | "cat >" bites |
| 13:32.05 | knittl | i don't quite get the ebnf |
| 13:32.42 | jelly | knittl: it's not ebnf; you can just copy over the root line and replace root with user1 |
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| 13:33.11 | knittl | so user1 ALL=(ALL) ALL |
| 13:33.14 | jelly | right |
| 13:33.29 | knittl | ? and why the hell visudo? why won't a simple nano /etc/sudoers do the job? |
| 13:33.36 | phorce1 | CoolCold: on older debian releases the default editor was 'ae' |
| 13:33.53 | et | knittl: because you might break the file that way |
| 13:33.54 | jelly | knittl: in case you have multiple crazy admins that want to edit sudoers at the same time |
| 13:34.03 | jelly | et: extremely unlikely |
| 13:34.20 | knittl | ok, i'm the only admin. it is now saved as sudoers.tmp? is that ok? |
| 13:34.34 | CoolCold | phorce1: mb, i've tryed etch and sarge, not sure about sarge, but on etch nano is default |
| 13:34.43 | jelly | knittl: yes, leave the filename alone |
| 13:34.56 | jelly | knittl: the visudo wrapper will take care of things |
| 13:35.00 | enouf | et: actually, doesn't matter which editor is used, the lock and syntax correction on the file comes from other than the editor |
| 13:35.12 | phorce1 | knittl: read 'man sudo' and scroll down to the bottom where it says "CAVEATS:" |
| 13:35.37 | et | enouf: he asked about visudo <-> explicit invocation of the editor |
| 13:35.52 | CoolCold | detaches from this war :) |
| 13:35.55 | jelly | phorce1: I like running sudo su -, sometimes. |
| 13:36.05 | phorce1 | CoolCold: I started using debian at the version before bo (The rocket dude, what was the name?) |
| 13:36.12 | enouf | et: okir doke |
| 13:36.15 | jelly | rexx? |
| 13:36.16 | enouf | er, ok |
| 13:36.37 | phorce1 | jelly: that would get confusing |
| 13:37.11 | CoolCold | phorce1: so? |
| 13:37.37 | phorce1 | opens a new terminal and logs in as root. He thinks it's almost as bad to get in the habit of typing 'sudo' over and over as it is to stay logged in as root in the first place. |
| 13:37.37 | jelly | phorce1: "rex", no double x. |
| 13:37.43 | knittl | ok, gotta change lecture room. brb in 2min |
| 13:38.05 | phorce1 | CoolCold: The default editor was 'ae' back then |
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| 13:38.07 | jelly | phorce1: keeping a root shell in screen! :-) |
| 13:38.29 | knittl | phorce1⦠yes, maybe. but i am not allowed to change the root password, and the current password sucks. so i'm more comfortable typing sudo su ^^ |
| 13:38.40 | jelly | knittl: you mean, sudo su - ;-) |
| 13:38.58 | knittl | sudo su works as well (afaik) |
| 13:39.00 | phorce1 | knittl: ahhh |
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| 13:39.03 | CoolCold | phorce1: ok, let it be, should i say smth else? |
| 13:39.28 | roe_ | is there any reason why it would seem that packages in sid aren't updating? OOo.org 3.0 has been in experimental for over 2 weeks. Gnome 2.24 was released in September and still hasn't hit sid. Iceowl was released back in september as well and also not in sid yet |
| 13:39.32 | jelly | knittl: compare the env. varliables between the two |
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| 13:39.56 | knittl | i don't care about env variables⦠|
| 13:40.06 | jelly | knittl: not even $HOME? |
| 13:40.22 | knittl | no, not at the moment, but thanks for the tip |
| 13:40.23 | phorce1 | always does 'aptitude install joe mc screen' on every install. The default installed editor never actually gets used now |
| 13:40.29 | roe_ | I realize that much of package submission is dependent on the package mainteners, it just seems odd, that these packages are taking so long to bet into sid |
| 13:40.37 | jelly | phorce1: eww, mc |
| 13:40.39 | boggy` | roe_: focus isn't on sid. that's probley why. all eyes are on stable if not lenny testing |
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| 13:41.11 | jelly | phorce1: I hope your systems aren't full of ~ files in /etc, considering the editor choice |
| 13:41.12 | roe_ | trying to get lenny out the door? |
| 13:41.16 | phorce1 | jelly: mc comes in handy for quickly moving files across systems using ssh |
| 13:41.32 | themill | roe_: with lenny frozen, sid is sort-of-frozen so that updating lenny is not made harder than necessary. |
| 13:41.33 | boggy` | lenny has alot going into it currently to my understanding |
| 13:42.10 | knittl | ok people. thanks for the help :) |
| 13:42.16 | roe_ | 10-4 |
| 13:42.26 | phorce1 | jelly: I edit joerc to stop backups. I do backups manually by doing a cp if I'm working on something big enough that I might fubar it too bad to recover by hand |
| 13:42.28 | jelly | boggy`: but not much of it is new upstream versions |
| 13:42.45 | boggy` | true |
| 13:43.01 | knittl | it works now like a charm |
| 13:43.30 | _A_Fantastic | I'm not sure what should I set in /etc/network/interfaces file in the line: "network". I have address 10.1.1.3, netmask 255.0.0.0, broadcast 10.255.255.255, gateway 10.1.1.1. Any help would be appreciated. |
| 13:44.04 | jelly | phorce1: I've stopped enabling -nobackups globally and now do mkdir ~/.bak/ and set backpath |
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| 13:45.41 | roe_ | looking at the /release-critical/ graph it looks like lenny is getting close |
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| 13:47.24 | jelly | files 10 random rc bugs |
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| 13:47.51 | jelly | !rc bugs |
| 13:47.52 | dpkg | Release-Critical bugs are bugs preventing the next version of Debian from being released. See the graph at http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/, or list at http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/other/all.html, also http://bts.turmzimmer.net/details.php?bydist=testing |
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| 13:48.40 | jelly | roe_: uh, close? Draw a horizontal... etch took 4-5 months from this number to release |
| 13:48.41 | roe_ | jelly, that is the true debian way, get close enough you can taste the release, but keep pushing it farther and farther back |
| 13:49.04 | knittl | what's the package called which enables me to have apt* autocomplete the packagenames? |
| 13:49.07 | valdyn | roe_: its not pushed |
| 13:49.13 | jelly | oh well, for debian, 5 months _is_ close |
| 13:49.16 | valdyn | roe_: its release according to policy |
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| 13:49.46 | roe_ | valdyn, in the sense that september was a "soft" timeline sure |
| 13:50.00 | valdyn | debian way is accouncing release dates that anyone knowing debian already knows are way way off |
| 13:50.18 | jelly | orly! |
| 13:50.46 | valdyn | roe_: yea, one would think that the debian devs announcing those dates would know better |
| 13:51.50 | roe_ | this is true, however, there was significant internal "re-organizing" (was it just after etch was released?) with a "promise" of 18-24month cycles. Don't get me wrong, I would rather a *stable* release than a quick release. |
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| 13:52.11 | valdyn | !etch |
| 13:52.12 | dpkg | Etch is the code name for the current stable Debian release, version 4.0, released on April 8th, 2007. Ask me about <install debian>. Please read the release notes at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes which also contain the upgrade procedure for upgrading from the previous version of Debian stable (<sarge>). Ask me about <stable>. currently <4.0r5>, or the Etch-A-Sketch magic screen |
| 13:52.28 | valdyn | plenty time to 24 months |
| 13:52.49 | roe_ | I guess I didn't realize that sid would semi stall when lenny got close |
| 13:53.17 | valdyn | roe_: the usual sid packages are in experimental in many cases |
| 13:53.23 | phorce1 | debian announces release dates? |
| 13:53.28 | phorce1 | !wwlr |
| 13:53.28 | dpkg | Lenny (5.0) will release WIR, SIYH and RSN. Hopefully before the end of mid 2009, but in any case, not until there are no more release critical bugs. Ask me about <wir> <siyh> <rsn> <lenny status>. Also see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2008/07/msg00005.html or lenny will not release until there are no more release critical bugs: http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical and see "Number concerning the next release:" |
| 13:53.32 | jelly | roe_: it happened last time too |
| 13:54.23 | valdyn | its sop |
| 13:54.36 | roe_ | this may be true, I was a much younger lad back then |
| 13:55.54 | roe_ | my real motivation is the gnome 2.24 release. This stupid bug that zooms iceweasel to the current workspace whenever I open a link from another program is *really* annoying me. Apparently, metacity was fixed in the next newest release |
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| 13:58.08 | valdyn | 2.6.27 had a remote security issue? |
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| 13:59.14 | RichiH | libxml2 2.6.27.dfsg-5 did |
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| 13:59.30 | RichiH | valdyn: |
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| 13:59.39 | valdyn | RichiH: oo |
| 13:59.41 | phorce1 | roe_: heh I've started keeping an iceweasel open on every workspace. When I switch workspaces the first thing I do is click on the iceweasel in that workspace. Clicking a link grabs the last iceweasel you had focused. |
| 13:59.59 | RichiH | CVE-2008-3529 |
| 14:00.05 | RichiH | 498768 |
| 14:00.25 | roe_ | phorce1, I've moved to compiz-fusion, which while it doesn't have that issue, has a few others which annoy me just as much |
| 14:01.18 | phorce1 | roe_: I've looked at compiz but not taken the time to make it my default wm |
| 14:01.49 | roe_ | the nice thing about it is you can switch back and forth rather seemlessly |
| 14:02.01 | roe_ | (or at least that is the idea) there are still a few bugs in the switching |
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| 14:02.47 | phorce1 | I tend to adjust to "whatever gets installed by default" when it comes to clicky things so long as I can get done what I need to |
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| 14:04.23 | phorce1 | my CLI, on the other hand, gets all the config files for various commands tweaked and a large handful of alises loaded and custom bash scripts dropped in ~/bin |
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| 14:04.40 | korhojoa | !poke me |
| 14:04.40 | dpkg | pokes korhojoa with a cattle prod |
| 14:05.35 | korhojoa | !rape me |
| 14:05.36 | dpkg | then that wouldn't be rape. |
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| 14:05.41 | korhojoa | !defile me |
| 14:05.43 | korhojoa | :/ |
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| 14:06.09 | knittl | screen doesn't allow me to be used by my second user. i don't want to chmod the /dev/pts/0 file. is there another way around? |
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| 14:07.02 | liable | screen -x |
| 14:07.25 | liable | screen has acl properties too. google it |
| 14:07.26 | trebor_dki | hello. what package do i have to install, to get the full documentation of emacs (info-files)? |
| 14:07.55 | knittl | screen -x isn't the way to go. yes i am googling it, but the first forum told to chmod the pts file |
| 14:08.11 | petemc | i just use chown user `tty` |
| 14:08.13 | petemc | as root |
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| 14:08.25 | petemc | works, with little side effects that ive noticed |
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| 14:08.29 | knittl | woot? |
| 14:08.40 | liable | knittl: whats wrong with screen -x |
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| 14:08.58 | knittl | liable: i still geht the error âºcannot open your terminal ....« |
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| 14:09.29 | fengor_ | trebor_dki: since ther4e doesnt seem to be an emacs-doc package i'd say emacs and the info prgram |
| 14:09.49 | fengor_ | documentation is normally bundlet with the application if there isnt an extra doc package |
| 14:09.55 | petemc | emacs docs are non free |
| 14:10.12 | petemc | theres a emacs-foo-non-dfsg |
| 14:10.14 | trebor_dki | fengor_: most of the info-files are missing. i remember from using sid, that there is a problem with the docs-licence |
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| 14:11.12 | trebor_dki | petemc: what do i have to do in order to install the docs? |
| 14:11.19 | stew | trebor_dki: emacs21-common-non-dfsg or emacs22-common-non-dfsg |
| 14:11.39 | stew | trebor_dki: they are in non-free (/msg dpkg non-free) |
| 14:11.54 | stew | and there is also emacs-lisp-intro in non-free |
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| 14:12.07 | trebor_dki | stew: thanks - reading. |
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| 14:17.00 | sylvain_ | hello, why is there no package for webmin under debian? |
| 14:17.32 | stew | sylvain_: nobody with the required skills is willing to maintain it |
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| 14:18.31 | sylvain_ | stew: can I use the debian package provided on the website? |
| 14:18.47 | stew | sylvain_: its very low quality and not recommended. they are the only ones that have volunteered to maintain it, but their packages were rejected by debian as being not even close to policy compliant |
| 14:19.09 | jelly | sylvain_: no guarantees are given that the third (well, first) party package won't mess up your system |
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| 14:20.51 | sylvain_ | thanks |
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| 14:34.06 | knittl | why does usermod -dm /home/www www-data not work? |
| 14:35.13 | knittl | usermod -m -d doesn't work either⦠i only see the helppage |
| 14:35.16 | SlayerXP | !doesn't work |
| 14:35.16 | dpkg | Look buddy, "doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message". |
| 14:35.42 | knittl | SlayerXP: error description: shows help page⦠|
| 14:35.49 | knittl | i wrote that |
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| 14:36.34 | SlayerXP | "usermod -d /tmp/test -m testuser" work for me |
| 14:36.44 | SlayerXP | works |
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| 14:37.21 | knittl | ok⦠for me too. but there is no way to guess this combination of parameters |
| 14:37.24 | knittl | THANKS :D |
| 14:37.53 | SlayerXP | knittl: well, I managed to guess, having never in recent memory having used the usermod command |
| 14:37.57 | abrotman | -d takes an option .. kind of rimportant |
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| 14:38.35 | knittl | but -m -d <dir> should work too :-/ |
| 14:38.53 | abrotman | that's not what oyu said you did |
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| 14:39.25 | knittl | yes. and it should work, it not working in that order isn't mentioned anywhere in the help page |
| 14:39.50 | SlayerXP | knittl: the order is implied, the -m switch is specific to -d, it make sense that it would need to come after |
| 14:40.07 | abrotman | you let me know if you find a different tool that allows you to put options anywhere on the command line |
| 14:40.24 | knittl | abrotman: there are plenty⦠|
| 14:40.26 | jelly | abrotman: almost all sane ones do |
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| 14:40.51 | abrotman | jelly: not really |
| 14:41.13 | jelly | wget -rl0 -np -nH http://blah .... or wget http://blah -l 0 -r -np -nH ... same thing |
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| 14:41.24 | abrotman | $ mkdir -m -p 777 /tmp/foo/asdf |
| 14:41.24 | abrotman | mkdir: invalid mode `-p' |
| 14:41.33 | abrotman | which is what he was trying to do |
| 14:41.36 | jelly | abrotman: of course |
| 14:41.42 | jelly | nope |
| 14:41.45 | abrotman | yes .. |
| 14:41.57 | jelly | well, yes, but that -m syntax is very unusual |
| 14:42.04 | abrotman | see .. YES! :) |
| 14:42.10 | knittl | zomfg⦠i started a flamewar |
| 14:42.11 | jelly | !spank abrotman |
| 14:42.12 | dpkg | bends abrotman over its knee and delivers a mighty *THWACK* |
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| 14:44.15 | Hideme | after upgrading from sarge to etch, only one of my 3 network interfaces is coming up. Any suggestions? |
| 14:44.40 | abrotman | are they seen in dmesg? |
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| 14:45.21 | stew | Hideme: one may have gotten renamed. check "ifconfig -a" to see if there is a down interface with an unexpected name |
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| 14:45.55 | Hideme | abrotman: yes, it looks like it. |
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| 14:46.05 | g00se | disk1 exports / via nfs. disk1 has symlink /bk to root of disk2. Clients can't see <disk1>/bk/* - why not? |
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| 14:46.45 | Hideme | stew I see all of them there with ifconfig -a, just eth1 and eth2 aren't coming up. |
| 14:46.59 | Hideme | Nor is a virtual interface on eth0:1 |
| 14:47.21 | stew | Hideme: can you show us /etc/network/interfaces ; use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 14:47.26 | Hideme | sure |
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| 14:51.37 | dikdust | hi |
| 14:52.12 | dikdust | I want to make a custom xen kernel from the last 2.6 vanilla... for debian etch. Someone has clues ? |
| 14:54.00 | petemc | lenny has a recent xen kernel that does dom0 now |
| 14:54.02 | OpenTokix | dikdust: I think the latest kernel have xen-stuff for domU's in the mainline |
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| 14:54.10 | OpenTokix | petemc: it has? |
| 14:54.16 | Hideme | stew here's my config http://paste.debian.net/21110/ |
| 14:54.16 | petemc | yes it does |
| 14:54.37 | OpenTokix | petemc: I have to try that |
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| 14:56.31 | stew | Hideme: hmm. does "ifup eth0:1" and "ifup eth1" etc work? |
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| 14:57.27 | Hideme | stew if-up.d/mountnfs[eth0:1]: lock /var/run/network/mountnfs exist, not mounting |
| 14:57.57 | stew | but it still brings eth0:1 up, right? |
| 14:58.02 | Hideme | I know my NFS mounts didn't come up.. but I attrbuted it to networking not being there. |
| 14:58.26 | Hideme | stew yes.... now it is after running that |
| 14:58.33 | stew | hmm |
| 14:58.46 | Hideme | stall I try eth1 and eth2? |
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| 14:59.15 | Hideme | Stew keep in mind I am the guy you help last week get out of that messy sarge to etch mistake upgrade. :) |
| 14:59.23 | m6mmix | Hello, i'm trying to configure sudoers file but i keep on gettint error messages |
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| 14:59.56 | m6mmix | i'm trying to give a user rights to run a file without a password as an admin but i'm getting message stating that parser error in /etc/sudoers |
| 15:00.18 | et | that's why you should use visudo ;) |
| 15:00.50 | m6mmix | :( |
| 15:01.01 | m6mmix | theres no pack for visudo under aptitude |
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| 15:01.10 | stew | Hideme: and with /etc/init.d/networking restart, what interfaces come up? |
| 15:01.37 | stew | m6mmix: visudo comes with the sudo package, it makes sure you haven't made any mistakes in editing sudoers before committing the changes |
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| 15:01.48 | stew | m6mmix: can you show us the line it is complaing about? |
| 15:01.50 | m6mmix | i have installed the sudo package |
| 15:02.50 | dikdust | OpenTokix, uhm I have seen something into.. Retry .. Thanks ;) |
| 15:03.10 | imzu | does anyone know how i can revrse the sense in find, as in i can find files which are world readable with: find /etc -perm -o=r but how to find those that are not? |
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| 15:03.22 | m6mmix | nagios (ALL)=ALL NOPASSWD:/usr/lib/nagios/plugins/check_md_raid |
| 15:03.24 | m6mmix | this command |
| 15:04.06 | cr3rzemjest | how does $RANDOM variable work? how would you create it if it didnt exist? |
| 15:04.46 | petemc | cr3rzemjest: its explained in the bash manpage |
| 15:04.57 | cr3rzemjest | petemc, ok |
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| 15:06.00 | Hideme | stew Seems to be just sitting there... Reconfiguring network interfaces.. |
| 15:06.06 | dikdust | OpenTokix, I obtain and error Makefile of /usr/src/linux-2.6.27.5/arch/xen/Makefile: No such file or directory |
| 15:06.22 | OpenTokix | dikdust: oki |
| 15:06.24 | stew | Hideme: uhh, did you run that command on a remote machine? |
| 15:07.00 | m6mmix | uhoh. cant figure out whats wrong |
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| 15:07.20 | Hideme | stew yes... but I'm still connected. |
| 15:07.21 | stew | m6mmix: i think you just want "nagios ALL=NOPASSWD:/usr/lib/nagios/plugins/check_md_raid" |
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| 15:07.43 | dikdust | Maybe I don't need xen there .. |
| 15:07.51 | dikdust | but generic arch |
| 15:07.52 | dikdust | .-. |
| 15:07.54 | dikdust | I will try |
| 15:08.11 | m6mmix | ty stew it's working:) |
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| 15:13.25 | Hideme | stew any further suggestions? |
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| 15:14.02 | stoned | !ping |
| 15:14.02 | dpkg | pong |
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| 15:14.39 | jonathon | i need help with this bug please http://pastebin.com/m4b8e32e5 |
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| 15:16.58 | imzu | got the asnwer to my question: find /etc -not -perm -o=r -ls |
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| 15:21.27 | Hideme | !ping |
| 15:21.27 | dpkg | pong |
| 15:21.34 | Hideme | Stew? |
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| 15:25.28 | stoned | my net connection sucks balls |
| 15:25.38 | edwin_quijada | I need to check a Fp site each 10 seconds there is other way diffrent a cron tab to do that? |
| 15:26.21 | stew | Hideme: i'd check for something in if-pre-up.d failing to complete |
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| 15:26.37 | stew | Hideme: or perhaps "bash -x /etc/init.d/networking restart" to see what it is doing when it stops |
| 15:26.48 | stew | edwin_quijada: watch -n 10 somecommand |
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| 15:35.03 | Hideme | stew where is if-pre-up.d? |
| 15:35.15 | stew | Hideme: /etc/network |
| 15:35.25 | Hideme | where's it log to though? |
| 15:35.38 | stew | Hideme: there isn't one |
| 15:35.57 | Hideme | oh |
| 15:36.53 | Hideme | stew we, there isn't anything in the /etc/network/if-pre-up.d dir.... not quite sure what you're asking me to do. :) |
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| 15:38.02 | DB42 | how do i see the post installation script a .deb file has ? |
| 15:39.07 | abrotman | /var/lib/dpkg/info/ |
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| 15:39.19 | DB42 | i have a .deb file here.. |
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| 15:40.27 | DB42 | anyone ? |
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| 15:40.33 | mhymn | dpkg -x ? |
| 15:40.35 | dpkg | mhymn: i haven't a clue |
| 15:40.42 | mhymn | i know |
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| 15:41.30 | DB42 | no |
| 15:41.48 | petemc | dpkg: test |
| 15:41.49 | dpkg | Test Failed. |
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| 15:42.58 | abrotman | DB42: ar x file.deb .. tar -zxf control.tar.gz |
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| 15:44.25 | DB42 | too bad iphoen doesn't have "ar" preinstalled :) |
| 15:44.37 | stew | DB42: "dpkg -e" can be used to extract the control files from a .deb |
| 15:44.54 | stew | Hideme: check if-up.d too |
| 15:45.19 | giusef_ | hi all. is there a way to have the new updated kernel in lenny? |
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| 15:45.58 | stew | giusef_: "apt-cache search -n linux-image" will list availalbe kernel packages that you can install |
| 15:45.59 | DB42 | stew: thanks, checking |
| 15:46.16 | et | dpkg: listkeys kernel |
| 15:46.17 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'kernel' by key (15 of 191): #debian kernel package ;; #debian kernels ;; #debian sid upgrade kernel ;; _default kernel compiling ;; _default kernel package ;; debian kernel images ;; etch upgrade kernel ;; kernel 2.4 ;; kernel support ;; kernel traffic ;; kernel2.5 pool ;; proper kernel ;; real kernel ;; thekernel ;; ~kernel. |
| 15:46.48 | DB42 | doesn't seem to have a post-install file there |
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| 15:53.00 | giusef_ | stew, I'd like 2.6.27, it isn't in that list |
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| 15:55.02 | stew | giusef_: right, 2.6.27 isn't in debian. if you want 2.6.27, you'd have to compile it yourself |
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| 15:55.38 | giusef_ | ok steve |
| 15:55.40 | giusef_ | ups |
| 15:55.44 | giusef_ | ok stew |
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| 15:56.52 | Hideme | stew nothing in if-pre-up.d, but a few things in if-up.d mainly my mountnfs, ntp and ntpdate. |
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| 15:58.06 | Jester_Racer | hey all |
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| 15:59.25 | ukl | hello. I located my NIC problem -- it's related to the kernel module. Now how can I build a kernel module on a system that is unable to go online? Is there any way to get a .deb file corresponding to my kernel version (2.6.24-1-amd64) that contains the r8168 module? |
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| 16:00.37 | abrotman | ukl: do you have the PCI ID? |
| 16:01.23 | ukl | abrotman: as from lspci? yes |
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| 16:01.47 | greggman | hello.. can you recommend a virtualization engine for debian ? |
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| 16:02.56 | ukl | abrotman: 07:00.0 0200: 10ec:8168 (rev ff) is what 'lspci -n' outputs |
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| 16:04.52 | abrotman | ukl: that's the r8169 |
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| 16:05.27 | asg | greggman: can you be more specific in your requirements? |
| 16:06.18 | ukl | abrotman: yes? According to some forums and lspci's output, it'd be a common problem with Realtek's RTL8111/8168B that I'm having, so I thought I'd have traced down the issue.... |
| 16:06.26 | greggman | asg, I have P4 3.0 GHZ with 1 GB of RAM.. I want to run 3 debian OSs in one machine.. |
| 16:06.36 | greggman | no GUI.. just CLI |
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| 16:06.56 | asg | greggman: then Xen is a good candidate |
| 16:07.12 | greggman | asg, Xen? Isn't it hard to configure? |
| 16:07.20 | ukl | abrotman: it somehow fits the descriptions (no blinking LEDs, trouble with networking...) |
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| 16:07.39 | asg | greggman: no. There's tons of documentation as well. |
| 16:07.39 | ukl | abrotman: and lspci -vvxn says "!!! Unknown header type 7f" |
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| 16:08.20 | greggman | I have experience running VMWare workstations but in windows vista |
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| 16:08.40 | DB42 | can i d/l a .deb file for which i already have the package installed for ? |
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| 16:08.52 | greggman | I have 1 debian and 1 ubuntu both are servers... |
| 16:09.17 | asg | greggman: http://wiki.debian.org/Xen |
| 16:09.38 | greggman | do you think I can make it? can Xen run in my specs? |
| 16:09.42 | Hideme | after upgrading from sarge to etch, only one of my 3 network interfaces is coming up. Any suggestions? |
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| 16:10.36 | asg | greggman: yes, it will run. You guests should probably be limited to 256M with 256 saved for the host |
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| 16:11.45 | greggman | asg, ah okay.. Is the wiki you recommended me to follow is already for etch? |
| 16:11.58 | abrotman | ukl: modules.pcimap says it's r8169 |
| 16:12.14 | asg | greggman: yes, etch and lenny instructions are there |
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| 16:12.40 | greggman | asg, have you tried it (wiki) already? |
| 16:13.17 | ukl | abrotman: yes, but many issues other people have that are identical to mine; whose cards also get "recognized" as r8169; suggest that that's not the right driver |
| 16:13.38 | ukl | besides, lspci tells me something about "!!! Unknown header type 7f" |
| 16:13.38 | asg | greggman: the instructions there should work just fine. |
| 16:13.50 | abrotman | ukl: lspci -nn |
| 16:13.52 | greggman | asg, thank you. |
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| 16:14.15 | DukeDrake2 | hi |
| 16:14.27 | DukeDrake2 | I need to install the tun/tap device |
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| 16:14.43 | DukeDrake2 | How can I do this without having to compile a new kernel? |
| 16:14.44 | olspookishmagus | I'd like to suggest a new package for Debian... where? |
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| 16:14.52 | ukl | abrotman: lspci -nn says it's a "...RTL8111/8168B PCI Express..." |
| 16:15.11 | abrotman | adn the pciid says it's r8169 |
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| 16:15.20 | abrotman | !tell olspookishmagus about wnpp |
| 16:15.21 | joelsolanki | Hi all |
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| 16:15.23 | abrotman | !tell olspookishmagus about rfp |
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| 16:16.02 | ukl | abrotman: yes, Kernel driver in use: r8169; besides "!!! Unkown header type 7f" |
| 16:16.20 | joelsolanki | http://www.pastebin.ca/1250372 |
| 16:16.28 | joelsolanki | i am not able to update the debian |
| 16:16.30 | joelsolanki | any hints plz |
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| 16:16.33 | DukeDrake2 | How can I install the TUN/TAP device needed for openVPN? |
| 16:16.42 | joelsolanki | i have sarge on my server |
| 16:16.47 | abrotman | ukl: dmesg | grep eth .. do you see it ? |
| 16:16.48 | joelsolanki | plz see this details http://www.pastebin.ca/1250372 |
| 16:16.53 | joelsolanki | any help plz |
| 16:17.12 | asg | joelsolanki: /msg dpkg sarge->etch |
| 16:17.26 | ukl | abrotman: yes |
| 16:17.26 | abrotman | joelsolanki: and see archive.debian.org if you still want to use sarge (not recommended) |
| 16:17.36 | joelsolanki | hmm. |
| 16:17.42 | abrotman | ukl: tried to configure it? |
| 16:17.50 | ukl | abrotman: it appears to be up, even reacts to ifconfig; but does not work anymore (it worked correctly in debian-installer, btw) |
| 16:17.51 | olspookishmagus | abrotman: thanks :) |
| 16:17.52 | olspookishmagus | this was the package I was talking about http://home.gna.org/nfoview/ |
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| 16:18.02 | paxcoder | joelsolanki: remove proprietary lines. |
| 16:18.09 | joelsolanki | means ? |
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| 16:18.22 | joelsolanki | i removed sarge and kept there oldstable then also it didnt worked |
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| 16:19.04 | themill | joelsolanki: sarge security support ended over 6 months ago and it was removed from the mirrors about a month ago. |
| 16:19.21 | asg | joelsolanki: sarge is no more. Upgrade to etch at the earliest opportunity. |
| 16:19.50 | ukl | abrotman: I could probably try installing linux-image-2.6.26-1-amd64 as what's running atm is 2.6.24-1; but I'm not sure if this would fix things |
| 16:20.01 | paxcoder | this may be OT, but what "Clocksource tsc unstable" means? |
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| 16:20.12 | paxcoder | *when booting, hangs there |
| 16:20.41 | asg | paxcoder: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=clocksource+tsc+unstable&btnG=Google+Search&aq=1&oq=clocksource+ts |
| 16:20.52 | joelsolanki | hmm i have tried archive.debian.org |
| 16:20.52 | paxcoder | asg: thx. will check |
| 16:20.58 | joelsolanki | seems working. checking still |
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| 16:21.07 | joelsolanki | it worked :) |
| 16:21.12 | joelsolanki | let me try few things |
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| 16:22.02 | asg | gives up on people |
| 16:22.11 | paxcoder | anyone? clocksource tsc unstable? |
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| 16:25.45 | [cannibal] | f |
| 16:25.49 | joelsolanki | that worked thanks friends :) |
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| 16:26.02 | paxcoder | wow, it really booted. huh, i only waited half an hour or so. |
| 16:26.20 | themill | joelsolanki: you really should move on from sarge though... |
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| 16:26.51 | paxcoder | why do I always get these clock errors. Freaking... |
| 16:27.06 | jamesstanley | Anyone know the command to split GNU screen vertically? |
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| 16:27.24 | paxcoder | o.O |
| 16:27.33 | Hideme | Is there a way to reinstall "networking" in etch? |
| 16:27.38 | ukl | abrotman: fixed it, installed linux-image-2.6.26-18-amd64. Now there're no unknown headers and it looks better. |
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| 16:29.32 | n3kl | Hideme: have you looked into your interfaces file? |
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| 16:32.26 | dooglus | I have a memory card that I use in my phone. Plugging it in to my debian system to try to copy some files off, I can't mount it. |
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| 16:32.37 | dooglus | kern.log says: FAT: bogus number of reserved sectors |
| 16:32.42 | dooglus | yet it mounts OK on the phone |
| 16:32.46 | dooglus | what can I do? |
| 16:33.22 | n3kl | dooglus: its probably the wrong filesystem |
| 16:33.31 | dooglus | n3kl: sorry, I just realised what the problem was... |
| 16:33.37 | dooglus | namely, I'm an idiot |
| 16:33.45 | crossfit | I have that problem too |
| 16:33.46 | dooglus | I was running "pmount /dev/sda" instead of "pmount /dev/sda1" |
| 16:33.53 | n3kl | ah |
| 16:33.55 | dooglus | crossfit: I doubt it - we've never spoken before |
| 16:34.19 | jelly | dooglus: you can also do just "pmount sda1", or even its label if the filesystem has one |
| 16:34.25 | crossfit | doesn't matter I'm still an idiot :) |
| 16:34.44 | joelsolanki | themill: sorry i was not here |
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| 16:34.56 | joelsolanki | yes it is actually a product |
| 16:35.05 | joelsolanki | so i am going to move to new debian soon :) |
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| 16:37.15 | Hideme | n3kl: Yes, everything seems fine... I can bring the interfaces up manually with ifup, but they don't come up on their own during boot. |
| 16:37.44 | n3kl | Hideme: have you added auto eth? anywhere? |
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| 16:39.35 | Hideme | n3kl: All 4 interfaces have the "auto" in front. |
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| 16:40.22 | n3kl | Hideme: anything usefull in dmesg? |
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| 16:40.39 | n3kl | paste your interfaces file |
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| 16:41.31 | barefoot | which ~/.x file does debian read after you do the xdm login? |
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| 16:42.15 | Hideme | n3kl: interfaces http://paste.debian.net/21121/ |
| 16:42.38 | asg | barefoot: ~/.xsession generally though ~/.xinitrc may also be still supported |
| 16:43.30 | barefoot | i have tried both of those (running evilwm) but it never runs my xsetroot commands |
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| 16:43.52 | n3kl | barefoot: I think /etc/X11/ plays a role in there also |
| 16:44.06 | n3kl | iirc, x*rc is strange in debian |
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| 16:44.34 | n3kl | Hideme: looks good to me. I would look in dmesg, and your syslogs to see if there is something strange |
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| 16:45.14 | Hideme | n3kl: yeah.. it's very odd. dmsg looks ok too |
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| 16:45.45 | asg | barefoot: http://www.hantslug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?LinuxHints/StartX (may have some further tips but ~/.xsession should work) |
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| 16:46.08 | Hideme | n3kl: Though this is weird. " target1:0:3: Beginning Domain Validation" |
| 16:46.16 | Hideme | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:46.45 | barefoot | ty checking it out |
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| 16:48.04 | DEA7H | anyone use the rtorrent package on etch and use wTorrent with the package? i cant get xmlrpc-c to compile and if its already enabled in the package and works with the xmlrpc-c package that would be epic |
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| 16:48.44 | barefoot | goes to test, ty |
| 16:49.15 | yow | hi everyone. im using gaim 2.0.0.beta5 under etch, i've installed aspell 0.60.4-4 while libgtkspell0 2.0.10-3+b1 is also installed on my system, however, spelling checker seems not working for gaim, mispelled words are not underlined. does anyone know what could be the cause? |
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| 16:51.14 | lopLi | hi, anyone ever tried to cross compile program to work on linux pda (embedded)? |
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| 16:57.06 | yow | lopLi: sorry, i was dc |
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| 16:57.37 | lopLi | its ok |
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| 16:58.10 | yow | lopLi: so, may i know what ur problem is? what target r u using? |
| 16:58.26 | trumpen_ | Can I share a /boot partition among two debian releases? The kernel images should have different names, but what about /boot/grub/menu.lst? |
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| 16:59.41 | cr3rzemjest | could you traffic control something for recommend |
| 16:59.41 | cahoot | trumpen_: all you need is an entry for each kernel |
| 17:00.13 | cahoot | trumpen_: correct root etc of course |
| 17:01.59 | trumpen_ | cahoot, ok, but what happens when a linux-image* package is updated? the postinst scripts work correctly or I have to fix something manually? |
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| 17:03.27 | lopLi | im newbie in cross compiling things, i need to cross compile my earlier version of firefox (x86) to pda based linux (arm), which direction should i go ? |
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| 17:03.55 | cahoot | trumpen_: of that I'm not so sure - you can inhibit rewriting of menu.list though |
| 17:05.56 | trumpen_ | cahoot, hmm, nice, I'll use chattr; is there something better? |
| 17:06.46 | cahoot | trumpen_: like /etc/kernel-img.conf |
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| 17:08.42 | trumpen_ | cahoot, thanks, that a very nice solution |
| 17:09.52 | cahoot | trumpen_: actually I *believe* the install script will respect your earlier entries |
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| 17:12.35 | MrWGW | can anyone suggest a USB ethernet adapter that would work with etch? |
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| 17:17.14 | bhundven | MrWGW: http://www.linux-drivers.org/ |
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| 17:18.44 | tCzern | hi, my system needs forever to boot. I am looking since 10 minutes at the boot screen now |
| 17:18.53 | tCzern | what could be the reason? |
| 17:19.05 | MrWGW | tCzern: well lots of things could be wrong |
| 17:19.08 | MrWGW | what does the boot screen say? |
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| 17:19.27 | tCzern | initrd blablabla, that's the last message |
| 17:19.30 | eanda | hello all I'm trying to change perimissions on a directory the name of the directory is /home/samba and I want the owner to be admins the group to be domain admins and the permissions 777 how do I get this done |
| 17:19.37 | tCzern | it's a fresh installation |
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| 17:19.45 | bhundven | tCzern: that was helpful, help us help you ;) |
| 17:20.14 | bhundven | try enabling bootlogd to log your boot process to /var/log/boot |
| 17:20.16 | cahoot | well if initrd returns blablabla - something is very wrong |
| 17:20.18 | tCzern | I am on a different computer upstairs, so, not sitting right next to it ...hold on .. |
| 17:20.26 | bhundven | cahoot: hehe |
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| 17:21.17 | bhundven | tCzern: you can enable bootlogd in /etc/default/bootlogd |
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| 17:22.02 | bolt-work | any reason why bootlogd isn't always enabled? |
| 17:22.16 | bhundven | some might not want it enabled. |
| 17:22.22 | gavi | folks, im new to debian.. i have been an ubuntu user till now... why is it when i try to open something in the terminal with gedit it asks me to see the gedit help.... what am i missing? |
| 17:22.28 | tCzern | came to late now, I remember initrd than some Kernel information multimedia, the last line was savedefault |
| 17:22.40 | tCzern | and then I got a splash screen |
| 17:22.47 | gavi | im root and i did gedit /my/location/file.wtvr |
| 17:23.02 | cahoot | tCzern: YOU'RE SURE YOU BOOT DEBIAN? |
| 17:23.17 | tCzern | its the 64studio distro, which is based on Debian, I am here because nothing going on in their channel |
| 17:23.20 | cahoot | sorry |
| 17:23.31 | n3kl | !notdebian |
| 17:23.31 | dpkg | Debian is all about policy. Policy guides everything. Knoppix does not have Debian policy, ergo it is not Debian. |
| 17:23.35 | n3kl | damn |
| 17:23.40 | n3kl | !debianbased |
| 17:23.46 | bolt-work | !they don't know |
| 17:23.46 | dpkg | Just because the people in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to hassle US with your problems. Go try Google. |
| 17:23.47 | bolt-work | :) |
| 17:23.58 | tCzern | it could be completely different then? |
| 17:24.05 | bhundven | gavi: just use vim |
| 17:24.25 | tCzern | dpgk, what gives you the right to talk to me like this? |
| 17:24.29 | gavi | vim? |
| 17:24.33 | bhundven | or vi |
| 17:24.34 | jelly | tCzern: it could be the same, or could be different; however, we don't know |
| 17:24.36 | gavi | eww |
| 17:24.36 | bhundven | or nano |
| 17:24.39 | gavi | i like gui |
| 17:24.41 | cahoot | tCzern: it's a bot |
| 17:24.45 | gavi | why doesnt gedit work |
| 17:24.45 | bhundven | use gvim |
| 17:24.46 | tCzern | IT IS BASED ON DEBIAN, go by yourself to their web site |
| 17:24.47 | bhundven | :-D |
| 17:25.03 | tCzern | very unfriendly bot! |
| 17:25.10 | cahoot | terse |
| 17:25.11 | n3kl | tCzern: thats not the point. THe point is that your are not running debian |
| 17:25.11 | gavi | gvim? is that installed in debian 3.1 by default? |
| 17:25.13 | esthar | My mouse click is fairly messed up...a physical click and physical release of mouse button each counts as a separate click to X.Org |
| 17:25.14 | beardy | Very stupid user. |
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| 17:25.26 | stew | tCzern: please turn off your caps. sorry we can't help you. try #64studio, or a 64studio mailing list or http://www.64studio.com/support |
| 17:25.31 | esthar | I have seemingly normal mouse INputDevice section that I normally do in xorg.conf |
| 17:25.39 | n3kl | esthar: try a new driver |
| 17:25.42 | bolt-work | gavi: next to nothing is installed "by default" in debian. it will be installed if you tell it to |
| 17:25.42 | zinx | esthar: does that happen in other OSs? |
| 17:25.50 | esthar | No it does not. |
| 17:26.00 | esthar | n3kl: I don't even know how to tell which driver is doing that. |
| 17:26.08 | gavi | bolt-work, gedit is installed BUT IT DOESNT WORK |
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| 17:26.32 | tCzern | I have a Debian splash screen, excuse me, what else should I think here other then it is Debian |
| 17:26.38 | bolt-work | gavi: and it just tells you to read help? only that? it doesn't say there's something wrong with the command you're entering? have you read the help? |
| 17:26.54 | stew | tCzern: it sounds like it is 64studio, not debian. |
| 17:26.57 | gavi | bolt-work, nope... just read the help |
| 17:27.11 | tCzern | load it, and see the Debian Icons all over the screen |
| 17:27.20 | tCzern | this is BS |
| 17:27.26 | bhundven | tCzern: this is the debian channel. Try #ubuntu |
| 17:27.35 | stew | bhundven: no, he's not running #ubuntu |
| 17:27.44 | bhundven | ah. 64studio... |
| 17:27.45 | zinx | !based on debian |
| 17:27.46 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it probably falls short of Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. If your distribution has an IRC channel, you can use it instead. Even if your distribution has fewer people in its IRC channel, or doesn't have one, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. |
| 17:27.46 | bolt-work | tCzern: we can't control what other distros put as their splash screen. "based on" means they took Debian and changed something. we don't know what they changed, but it affects the solutions to various problems. thus, we can't help you. |
| 17:28.20 | n3kl | Why do we have to explain this every day? |
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| 17:28.23 | bhundven | yea, not debian or ubuntu... lol. |
| 17:28.29 | tCzern | ok, I'll remove the whole thing. |
| 17:28.31 | bolt-work | n3kl: new people every day :) |
| 17:28.50 | tCzern | this doesn't work for me, I am new to Linux |
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| 17:29.11 | tCzern | I'd love to have some channel I could join just in case |
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| 17:29.16 | n3kl | bolt-work: we should have some sort of id10t test prior to being able to join the channel or something |
| 17:29.30 | bolt-work | tCzern: then you need to use debian or ubuntu or something else with a large userbase and an irc channel |
| 17:29.40 | n3kl | tCzern: install debian and we will be glad to help you |
| 17:29.43 | tCzern | what is id10t test? |
| 17:29.48 | bolt-work | tCzern: don't ask. |
| 17:29.49 | zinx | yeah, we can totally support Debian here, and #ubuntu can support Ubuntu. |
| 17:29.51 | g00se_ | disk1 exports / via nfs. disk1 has symlink /bk to root of disk2. Clients can't see <disk1>/bk/* - why not? |
| 17:30.02 | zinx | we can't support anything other than Debian here, though, including 64studio / ubuntu. |
| 17:30.18 | cahoot | excluding? |
| 17:30.28 | zinx | cahoot: was including things we can not support. |
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| 17:30.33 | tCzern | what's the thing with ubuntu? Are they saying they are based on Debian too? |
| 17:30.55 | stew | tCzern: yes, both are based on debian. you can find out more about ubuntu in #ubuntu |
| 17:30.56 | zinx | tCzern: they are based on Debian. |
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| 17:31.02 | n3kl | g00se_: because you are not exporting <disk1>bk |
| 17:31.27 | tCzern | ok, now I understand why you got so upset with me |
| 17:31.35 | bhundven | g00se_: or you are exporting <disk1>bk and you are limiting the hosts that can connect to that export |
| 17:31.40 | g00se_ | n3kl: Actually i tried that too: made no difference |
| 17:31.46 | dtcrshr | [tCzern]: here on irc, do a /list |
| 17:31.53 | dtcrshr | you will see much especific channels |
| 17:32.19 | g00se_ | bhundven: only one host required - it's marked |
| 17:32.20 | n3kl | g00se_: you should not be exporting symlinks anyway, try mount -o bind <disk1> /bk er whatever you are doing |
| 17:32.38 | bhundven | meh. |
| 17:32.41 | n3kl | g00se_: I am not even sure that nfs supports exportgin symlinks |
| 17:33.03 | g00se_ | n3kl: OK. I'll try exporting without the symlink |
| 17:33.08 | tCzern | ok, found that list |
| 17:33.26 | stew | tCzern: /list isn't recommended on this network, "/msg alis help list" instead |
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| 17:34.18 | tCzern | k, thanks |
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| 17:41.30 | gigo | could you please help me to know which package in Debian will provide me the OpenSSL Crypto library? |
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| 17:42.27 | asg | gigo: search for libssl-dev |
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| 17:44.19 | Vooch | does anyone know when lenny stable is coming out? |
| 17:44.25 | pobega | What's the proper way to change the order things start at boot time? |
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| 17:44.29 | beardy | When it's ready. |
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| 17:45.29 | pobega | Vooch: As beardy said, whenever it is ready and as close to problem-less it will get. |
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| 17:46.01 | Vooch | any guesstimates? such as one month? 2 months? |
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| 17:46.55 | Saebekassebil | Hey everyone, is kernel 2.6.27 available for Debian?? |
| 17:46.55 | zinx | someone did some statistical projections based on the number of release-critical bugs |
| 17:46.59 | zinx | i don't recall the results |
| 17:47.04 | bhundven | pobega: if you type 'runlevel' it will tell you what run level you are at. going to /etc/rc<YourRunLevel>.d/ you can change the order by changing the number in front of the service in the file name. |
| 17:47.36 | zinx | Saebekassebil: not as part of the Debian repository, but you can always use make-kpkg |
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| 17:47.49 | Saebekassebil | make kpkg? And that's? |
| 17:47.49 | bhundven | pobega: and stuff in /etc/rcS.d is ran during startup too. |
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| 17:48.13 | stew | Saebekassebil: /msg dpkg kp |
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| 17:49.22 | Saebekassebil | Ok, nice and that works? |
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| 17:49.44 | Saebekassebil | Where do i obtain a Kernel package? |
| 17:50.07 | stew | Vooch: there is no way to know, especially now that there is a vote under discussion which could delay the release indefinitely |
| 17:50.55 | bhundven | pobega: there are other docs in: /usr/share/doc/sysv-rc on managing the init scripts |
| 17:51.28 | eanda | hey all I'm following a tutorial that is instructing me on some directory rights issues. It is telling me to do the following. on my directory /home/xbox make it 777 with Administrator:Domain Admins. I was able to change it to 777 with chmod but I can't for the life of me change the owner or group. both of them typed in with chown Administrator returns an error |
| 17:52.08 | bhundven | eanda: sounds like the group and user does not exist. |
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| 17:53.16 | eanda | so debian default install does not create a default Domain Admins group? |
| 17:53.20 | stew | eanda: it sounds like you should disregard that tutorial, one should pretty much never use 777, and if you were going to use 777 anyway, the group owner becomes unimportant |
| 17:53.38 | stew | eanda: default debian install contains adm which can read log files and staff which gets write access to /usr/local/ and /usr/src/ |
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| 17:53.39 | asg | also, user and group names cannot have spaces |
| 17:54.10 | eanda | ok cool let me try group DomainAdmins |
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| 17:54.17 | asg | well, they can but it just buggers things up |
| 17:55.07 | eanda | nope chgrp DomainAdmins /home/xbox does not work |
| 17:55.10 | bhundven | eanda: what howto is this. sounds like AD or some ldap stuff. |
| 17:55.25 | eanda | yes. it is |
| 17:55.25 | beardy | They should NOT have spaces. Neither should filenames. |
| 17:55.39 | asg | eanda: the group does need to exist first. read the groupadd manpage |
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| 17:56.44 | eanda | I'm using this tutorial but would certainly opt for another. any suggestions. I'm trying to implement LDAP + SAmba. very similar to rrcomputerconsulting server |
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| 17:57.02 | bhundven | hmm. I'll ask again. |
| 17:57.06 | bhundven | eanda: what howto is this |
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| 17:57.24 | eanda | http://lists.samba.org/archive/samba/2005-December/114817.html |
| 17:57.38 | eanda | thats the one I'm following |
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| 17:59.30 | eanda | I've also have had a great server from rrcomputer consulting running. but am now wanting to do this in debian. I ran into problems because debian does not use the ldap conf file like ubuntu and I can't find a work around for it |
| 17:59.40 | Saebekassebil | Where do i download the 2.26.7 kernel? |
| 17:59.54 | bhundven | Saebekassebil: kernel.org |
| 18:00.30 | Saebekassebil | kk |
| 18:00.35 | eanda | bhundven are you familiar with the Ubuntu server build as described at the rrcomputerconsulting web site? |
| 18:00.39 | bhundven | eanda: hmm. I've looked through this guide, but I don't see where you are at. what page are you on? |
| 18:00.59 | bhundven | nah. I never follow guides. I just figure it out on my own. |
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| 18:01.44 | eanda | no page number on my html list , but I'm right at the very beginning section 2.2 from the contents |
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| 18:02.23 | Saebekassebil | Well, the only thing i got was a file, that looked like a Bash script.. It think it's a patch...? |
| 18:02.48 | bhundven | eanda: the link you gave me that is in: http://lists.samba.org/archive/samba/2005-December/114817.html has 5 pages. |
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| 18:03.46 | tCzern | Hello again, see this here: http://64studio.com/manual. It refers to Debian documentation. So, I don't understand why you gave me such a hard time just because I asked a question in this channel |
| 18:03.50 | eanda | ok I'm stuck in section 2.2 basic rights setup for samba |
| 18:04.17 | bhundven | cannot find section 2.2 in a 5 page guide without sections :/ |
| 18:05.02 | bhundven | eanda: if you are referencing a the rrcomputing guide, then that is for ubuntu. it will be different for debian... as they ARE different. |
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| 18:07.11 | eanda | bhundven: I know they are that is why I want to move to debian. it appears that Ubuntu is pulling in another direction when it comes to libnss and the configuration files. so I'm wanting to so with debian. I just can't find a reasonable document to explain the setup and the setup of clients |
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| 18:07.43 | wiedenmann | I have a 127.0.1.1 entry in /etc/hosts I have never seen that befor. |
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| 18:08.49 | eanda | bhundven: so i don't show pages for the tutorial I am following my gues it is on section 2.2 is on either page one or two |
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| 18:09.17 | bhundven | eanda: all I can suggest, is to compare the contents of the libnss packages and figure out what is different. |
| 18:09.25 | Saebekassebil | Will Debian support the 2.6.27 kernel?? |
| 18:09.28 | pobega | bhundven: Thanks for the tip, I remember I did it way back when but I forgot the directory. |
| 18:09.49 | bhundven | pobega: :-D no problem! |
| 18:09.51 | pobega | Do you know if it's safe to boost my DM up above other services, so I can get to a working desktop quicker? |
| 18:10.42 | bhundven | not sure. i try really hard not to use dm |
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| 18:10.53 | jelly | Saebekassebil: in the next stable release? Not likely, but then again you can usually use whatever (recent) kernel you like without ill effects. |
| 18:11.05 | eanda | bhundven: I know the difference. Ubuntu wants to use ldap.conf for the configuration of slapd and debian uses ldap.conf libpam_ldap.conf and libnss-ldap.conf for configuration |
| 18:11.21 | bhundven | pobega: oh. wait. do you mean desktop manager? |
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| 18:11.33 | bhundven | or device manager (like sw raid) |
| 18:11.37 | eanda | or I shuldn't say slapd, I should really say pam authentication |
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| 18:11.59 | pobega | bhundven: Yeah, I use SLiM |
| 18:12.10 | bhundven | slim? |
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| 18:12.58 | jonathon | how do i install a .tar in debian through term.? |
| 18:13.13 | eanda | bhundven: what is the cli command to list all groups on the system |
| 18:13.21 | bhundven | cat /etc/group |
| 18:13.26 | eanda | ty |
| 18:13.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | ahaha... ain't that nice: (top output, line 1) 17360 k 20 0 1977m 1.4g 12m R 6 72.3 543:25.37 xulrunner-stub |
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| 18:14.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | and it's growing :) machine is already swapping |
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| 18:14.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | time to kill of the icy weasel |
| 18:14.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | off |
| 18:14.38 | datacrusher | how do i configure for a pendrive to be rwx on debian? |
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| 18:15.30 | tCzern | the About Gnome windows indicated Debian as Distributor. |
| 18:15.34 | datacrusher | i plug it, it recognizes, reads its content, but i cant copy from / for it |
| 18:15.38 | tCzern | So am I welcome here or not? |
| 18:15.53 | datacrusher | [tCzern]: what distro is installed on the os ur trying to fix? |
| 18:15.53 | bhundven | no. it is not debian. it is based on debian, but it is not. |
| 18:16.01 | datacrusher | debian? |
| 18:16.20 | bhundven | imagine. I have a cruise liner, and you have a row boat. we cannot read the same manual for the two boats. they will be different. |
| 18:16.44 | tCzern | we have the same motor I would say |
| 18:17.01 | Jyzygzy- | in dhclient3 is there a way to have it execute a command after getting address? |
| 18:17.02 | tCzern | 64 studio is referring to the Debian manuals |
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| 18:17.09 | Jyzygzy- | or how do you do it? |
| 18:17.31 | bhundven | Jyzygzy-: check out: man interfaces |
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| 18:18.02 | Jyzygzy- | bhundven post-up ? |
| 18:19.22 | genii | !info irssi |
| 18:19.23 | dpkg | irssi: (terminal based IRC client), section net, is optional. Version: 0.8.12-5 (sid), Packaged size: 1052 kB, Installed size: 2764 kB |
| 18:19.23 | Jyzygzy- | no i don't want post-up |
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| 18:19.23 | bhundven | up would probably be fine. |
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| 18:19.28 | Jyzygzy- | bhundven are you sure its run after it has aqquired an IP-address with dhcp? |
| 18:19.30 | stew | tCzern: please go to #64studio for help with 64studio |
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| 18:20.46 | bhundven | Jyzygzy-: I'm pretty sure, otherwise, you could just add a script to: /etc/network/if-up.d/ |
| 18:20.58 | bhundven | make sure it is executable. |
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| 18:21.57 | karrotx | can i get the latest v2 for policyd in etch? |
| 18:22.50 | Jyzygzy- | well i added it to the interfaces |
| 18:22.54 | Jyzygzy- | no way of knowing if its correct |
| 18:23.16 | bhundven | I use the scientific method. |
| 18:23.20 | balazsbela | What would be the result of me adding the KDE4 nightly neon ubuntu repo and trying to install it ? |
| 18:23.23 | bhundven | 8) |
| 18:24.16 | asg | balazsbela: something that, if it even installed, would break and be unsupported here |
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| 18:25.50 | bhundven | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method |
| 18:26.08 | balazsbela | then can I find a working kde4 instalation for debian without wiping out my kde3 ? |
| 18:26.35 | bhundven | balazsbela: build it from source and install it in /opt/kde4 |
| 18:26.50 | balazsbela | yeah, it would probably build in a week or two |
| 18:26.59 | balazsbela | what is this, Gentoo ? |
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| 18:27.48 | luca9785 | hi, i installed a minimal interface (xorg, gnome-core and gdm), now i want installa the gui for managing the user/group, what is the .deb's name? |
| 18:27.59 | bhundven | no, this is debian. if it is not in the binary repo, build it yourself. I do it all the time. |
| 18:28.23 | luca9785 | sorry the name for downloading with apt-get install |
| 18:28.32 | balazsbela | ok, how much time would it take ? |
| 18:28.41 | luca9785 | i remeber in ubuntu there is a gui for managing the users/groups |
| 18:28.49 | bhundven | as much time as it will take your computer to compile it. |
| 18:29.20 | gigo | I have installed libssl-dev, but when I compile my program, I get this error: md5demo.c:(.text+0x88): undefined reference to `MD5_Init' |
| 18:29.31 | gigo | could you please help? what more do I need to install ? |
| 18:30.03 | Aggro__ | gigo: How are you linking the library to your program? |
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| 18:30.35 | gigo | Aggro__: I am doing: gcc md5demo.c - isn't this enough? |
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| 18:30.39 | jelly | gigo: -lssl |
| 18:30.43 | gigo | thanks |
| 18:31.06 | gigo | why does it require the extra argument? |
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| 18:31.43 | jelly | gigo: because MD5_Init function isn't present in the default C runtime library |
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| 18:32.00 | Aggro__ | gigo: Because C compilers don't automatically search functions from all possible libraries on your computer, you need to specify which libraries it should use. |
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| 18:32.25 | gigo | Aggro__: so when I give -lssl argument, is the library statically linked or dynamically linked? |
| 18:32.38 | gigo | that is if I give this program to someone who doesn't have libssl, can he run it? |
| 18:32.49 | gigo | i mean if I give the executable file only |
| 18:32.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | a bot |
| 18:32.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | argh |
| 18:32.56 | datacrusher | how can i use a pendrive no debian, with rw permissions? |
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| 18:33.30 | stew | datacrusher: what filesystem does the pendrive have? |
| 18:33.35 | sladi | datacrusher: put it in fstab |
| 18:33.37 | datacrusher | fat32 |
| 18:33.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | pendrive == usb-stick? |
| 18:33.48 | datacrusher | yes |
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| 18:34.19 | jelly | gigo: in debian, it'll be linked dynamically by default |
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| 18:34.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | datacrusher, if you like to mount it automatically when plugging it in, try usbmount (pmount to unmount it manually after use) |
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| 18:35.32 | sladi | datacrusher: rox-filer asks me if I want to unmount it when I leave the drive location/folder |
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| 18:36.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | datacrusher, with usbmount, there should be a line saying: FS_MOUNTOPTIONS="-fstype=vfat,gid=floppy,dmask=0000,fmask=0111" |
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| 18:36.36 | bhundven | or when you stick the usb memory stick into your computer, type dmesg, and the last line will tell you the device name the kernel/udev assigned it. then: mount -o rw /dev/(devicename) /mnt |
| 18:36.41 | bhundven | as root |
| 18:36.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | datacrusher, er there should be a line in /etc/usbmount/usbmount.conf |
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| 18:37.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | sladi, uuuh... graphical file managers.... :-p |
| 18:37.55 | wiedenmann | I have 2 files: foo and bar. I want to divide every entry of foo-column 1 by bar-column 3. |
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| 18:38.08 | ZeuZ | hey, I need a little hands up here :) |
| 18:38.13 | gloin | hey, what's the deal with BTS right now? |
| 18:38.23 | ZeuZ | I need to limit the ammount of connections that a host under my network can make, |
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| 18:38.28 | sladi | CutMeOwnThroat: it's great! :) |
| 18:38.36 | hellues | hey i have a problem with my wireless card |
| 18:38.49 | hellues | my system recognize wireless card |
| 18:38.55 | hellues | but i cannot use it |
| 18:39.04 | ZeuZ | for example, I need to limit all hosts under 192.168.1.0/24 so that each of them can not create more than 35 simmultaneous TCP connections |
| 18:39.13 | ZeuZ | any idea how can I deal with that? |
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| 18:39.18 | hellues | i am using network-manager that doesnt recieve my wireless card |
| 18:39.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | sladi, dunno... never use this kinda stuff - only ever felt the need for some ... difficult... sorting tasks, where there was no simple glob/regexp that would select the correct files (but I could easily spot them)... but that happened YEARS ago the last time |
| 18:39.57 | stew | ZeuZ: i'd ask in #iptables |
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| 18:40.09 | stew | hellues: have you read /usr/share/doc/network-manager/README.Debian ? |
| 18:40.09 | ZeuZ | stew, I know, but that channel ain't too much of a alive channel |
| 18:40.25 | sladi | CutMeOwnThroat: usbmount sounds interesting since not many apps use the rox file drag'n drop approach. |
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| 18:41.06 | whadar | how do I get gnome support for R? |
| 18:41.15 | whadar | what package do I need (lenny) |
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| 18:42.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | sladi, I like it - only thing is, I of course still have to (p)umount afterwards... but there's really no helping that... at least if you want to be sure all data has been written to the stick before you pull it |
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| 18:43.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | (there are some alternatives where you mount it with an option to write every change immediately - HUGE performance hit for me on some sticks - and then it detects that the stick is missing and umounts kind of post-mortem, but I don't really like that variant) |
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| 18:43.30 | Orbixx | How does one install packages for a chrooted user? |
| 18:43.46 | wintix | How would one enable Dual-Head on a Intel Corporation 82Q35 Express Integrated Graphics Controller? I have done it before on Nvidia and Ati but I can't seem to find a Howto for Intel stuff. Any hints? |
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| 18:44.16 | wintix | Orbixx: well. install them into the chroot? |
| 18:44.38 | Orbixx | Well, yes. |
| 18:44.45 | Orbixx | That's what I'm essentially asking. |
| 18:44.48 | Orbixx | How? |
| 18:44.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | whadar, apt-cache search gnome " r " |
| 18:45.01 | bhundven | wiedenmann: for i in $(cat foo | awk '{ print $1 }'); do for j in $(cat bar | awk '{ print $1 }'); do echo "$i / $j" | bc; done; done |
| 18:45.14 | wintix | Orbixx: chroot /where/your/chroot/is and just apt-get / aptitude the stuff you need |
| 18:45.16 | bhundven | change the second print $1 to print $3 |
| 18:45.20 | sladi | CutMeOwnThroat: It sounds cool, I usually disable write caching for removable drives anyway. I guess random usb keys need pmount anyway. :) |
| 18:45.22 | bhundven | for bar |
| 18:45.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | whadar, interpret the result yourself |
| 18:45.26 | whadar | CutMeOwnThroat: 10x |
| 18:45.29 | whadar | got it |
| 18:45.49 | wintix | Orbixx: or login with the user, become root and install the stuff |
| 18:46.29 | bhundven | wiedenmann: so it would be: for i in $(cat foo | awk '{ print $1 }'); do for j in $(cat bar | awk '{ print $3 }'); do echo "$i / $j" | bc; done; done |
| 18:46.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | wintix, doesn't randr do all dual-head stuff now independent of the hardware? |
| 18:47.14 | wintix | CutMeOwnThroat: i really have no idea, but i will have a look, thank you |
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| 18:47.34 | klack | hey I have a linux (network) problem which has to do with windows - where should I ask? |
| 18:47.50 | jelly | introduces bhundven and wiedenmann to "paste" |
| 18:48.01 | bhundven | jelly: werd. |
| 18:48.12 | wintix | CutMeOwnThroat: you meant xrandr, right? |
| 18:48.13 | klack | is there maybe a network channel where people solve problems like I have? |
| 18:48.22 | jelly | bhundven: I won't touch the UUOC, mind |
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| 18:48.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | wintix, /msg dpkg 3R - also ask it about xrandr |
| 18:49.11 | sladi | CutMeOwnThroat: but yes, it boils down to usage pattern. :) I like to pick my files in the filer instead of using program open dialogues or recent file lists. |
| 18:49.12 | wintix | klack: well. if it is a debian related question, just go ahead and ask. if not start googling :) |
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| 18:49.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | wintix, right, I did :) |
| 18:50.02 | wintix | CutMeOwnThroat: seems promising. thank you :) |
| 18:50.20 | bhundven | jelly: haha, yea |
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| 18:51.03 | jelly | bhundven, wiedenmann: if foo has eg. 10 columns, paste foo bar | awk '{print $1 / $13}' |
| 18:51.15 | karrotx | what's the name for packages on the cutting edge but still stable? |
| 18:51.18 | karrotx | volatile? |
| 18:51.37 | bhundven | ah |
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| 18:51.44 | bhundven | that is better. |
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| 18:52.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | wintix, could try it myself 1st time couple of weeks ago for my laptop -when I needed to switch to the other output at a talk, I had an too-old xorg server installed - stuff will only work with xorg newer than ... etch, I think - needs to be xrandr 1.2 or so - only played around with it a bit and changed resolution on-the-fly (no 2nd monitor around to test switching to external display) |
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| 18:53.15 | klack | wintix: it is, I googled several hours now... I use DEBIAN in a VM on WinXP, and try to mount a windows share in debian (VM) - this is the error message I get when I try to mount over fstab http://rafb.net/p/7uo45q67.html |
| 18:53.21 | bhundven | guess I forgot about paste. |
| 18:53.33 | karrotx | is there a way to get postfix-policyd v2 for etch? |
| 18:53.35 | karrotx | it's not in volatile |
| 18:53.36 | klack | the user / pass is correct - for sure |
| 18:53.56 | jelly | karrotx: tried backports.org? |
| 18:53.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | jelly, heh, thanks, didn't know 'paste' either - only "join" which ain't the same |
| 18:54.00 | karrotx | no |
| 18:54.02 | klack | so I really don't know what to do now - all those shares work on my other machine - exactly like they are now |
| 18:54.16 | jelly | !+tell karrotx about bpo |
| 18:54.16 | dpkg | told karrotx about bpo (backports.org is an unofficial repository of backports for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Read http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions ask me about <backports>. A sample line for your sources.list is: deb http://www.backports.org/debian etch-backports main contrib non-free. Once you've added that line, aptitude update && aptitude install debian-backports-keyring && aptitude update) |
| 18:54.27 | Orbixx | How do I install things using apt/aptitude into a chroot environment when apt/aptitude does not exist in the chroot environment? |
| 18:54.33 | jelly | oh dear, that was a failure |
| 18:54.41 | dmoerner | you want |
| 18:54.46 | dmoerner | !+tell dmoerner -about bpo |
| 18:54.48 | dpkg | told dmoerner about bpo. |
| 18:54.48 | themill | jelly: +tell -about |
| 18:55.01 | jelly | themill: too late! |
| 18:55.04 | bhundven | Orbixx: check out: http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/software/pbuilder-doc/pbuilder-doc.html |
| 18:55.14 | stew | Orbixx: install apt/aptitude in the chroot |
| 18:55.17 | klack | hmm to much going on here for my problem I guess :P |
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| 18:55.27 | Orbixx | stew: That's where I'm stuck. |
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| 18:55.33 | themill | jelly: mangled finger... slow typing ;( |
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| 18:55.42 | stew | Orbixx: is dpkg installed in the chroot? |
| 18:55.46 | hellues | i have a problem with acpi |
| 18:55.56 | Orbixx | stew: Yes. |
| 18:55.57 | hellues | if dont log in as root |
| 18:55.59 | Aggro__ | klack: Does ping work? |
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| 18:56.06 | hellues | my acpi doesnt work correctly |
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| 18:56.08 | jelly | klack: it only fails from fstab, but works in a shell? |
| 18:56.16 | dzup | hi all, if you escuseme here, i need the sources.list for lenny :) |
| 18:56.16 | hellues | my screen stays dark |
| 18:56.20 | wintix | klack: you either have filesharing diasbled or your firewall is blicking the connection |
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| 18:56.25 | stew | Orbixx: put the appropriate .debs in the chroot and run "dpkg -i package1.deb package2.deb..." |
| 18:56.27 | hellues | if i log in as root my screen lightened |
| 18:56.32 | hellues | how can i fix that |
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| 18:56.54 | dzup | hi all, if you escuseme here, i need the sources.list for lenny :) |
| 18:57.05 | klack | how can I check whether it is a firewall? (btw I have disabled XP's firewall) |
| 18:57.15 | klack | I mean... it can't be the firewall, can it? ... |
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| 18:57.45 | jelly | klack: does "telnet 192.168.0.1 445" from the debian machine work? |
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| 18:58.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | hellues, that doesn't sound like acpi |
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| 18:58.34 | Orbixx | stew: Any idea where I can find the .deb files? I can't seem to find them with googling. |
| 18:58.44 | stew | Orbixx: http://packages.debian.org/packagename |
| 18:58.50 | Orbixx | Thanks. |
| 18:59.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | dzup, just change "stable" to "testing" (or etch to lenny) in your current line - also /msg dpkg sources.list |
| 18:59.12 | hellues | CutMeOwnThroat, what is it so ? |
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| 18:59.28 | klack | no, it doesnot, jelly |
| 18:59.37 | klack | I guess it is a problem with my network interfaces |
| 19:00.00 | hellues | i am loging in as normal user.My screen stays dark but i am logging in root my screen lightened |
| 19:00.02 | klack | I have now bridged my primary network interface @ windows for VM |
| 19:00.08 | jelly | klack: seems like a network issue, yes |
| 19:00.09 | hellues | everytime i log in as root |
| 19:00.13 | hellues | thats annoying |
| 19:00.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | hellues, looks like some weirdo-type of permission problem, if root can do it but normal users not - what made you think it's acpi; compare /var/log/Xorg.0.log when starting as both type of users |
| 19:00.27 | klack | hmm, how should I setup network for vm with xp? |
| 19:00.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | hellues, er - |
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| 19:00.51 | klack | I was looking for a good tutorial on the net long time today... haven't found one that fits my needs |
| 19:00.54 | hellues | what is er |
| 19:00.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | hellues, er - you didn't do some bastille or sellinux type of thing, now did you? |
| 19:01.30 | barefoot | i just installed debian from the netinst cd, installed alsa-{base,utils}, alsaconf ran okay and installed whatever modules but i still get no sound from vlc, any ideas? |
| 19:01.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | hellues, check /usr/bin/X for the suid bit, also look if /usr (or whatever contains /usr) is mounted nosoud |
| 19:01.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | s/nosoud/nosuid/ |
| 19:02.09 | hellues | !paste |
| 19:02.09 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! |
| 19:02.15 | jelly | barefoot: things muted in alsamixer? |
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| 19:02.37 | barefoot | not that I can see, i ran it and turned up master and headphone |
| 19:02.38 | whadar | CutMeOwnThroat: /usr/lib/R/bin/exec/Rgnome is still missing |
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| 19:02.47 | jelly | barefoot: esp. "PCM" and "Master", "Front" or similar |
| 19:02.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | !tell whadar -about apt-file |
| 19:02.53 | whadar | "R -g gnome" is not working |
| 19:03.26 | klack | is there a channel where people got knowledge of VMWare networks? |
| 19:03.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | whadar, didn't know you had a specific file you knew you needed... |
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| 19:03.45 | hellues | CutMeOwnThroat, http://paste.debian.net/21142/ |
| 19:03.46 | klack | got it.. |
| 19:03.48 | barefoot | jelly: turned up PCM also still no change though |
| 19:03.52 | whadar | CutMeOwnThroat: damn... no package provides this file |
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| 19:04.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | seems so |
| 19:04.51 | jelly | klack: #vmware? |
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| 19:04.54 | hellues | CutMeOwnThroat, -rwsr-sr-x 1 root root 9436 2008-10-05 21:26 /usr/bin/X |
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| 19:05.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | <---- off to lunch |
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| 19:11.27 | Peachz | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:11.53 | Peachz | though i don't know how to access it, when i use the vps ip i just get directed to, theip/apache2-default which just says, It works! |
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| 19:15.50 | jelly | Peachz: webmin usually listens on a port different than :80 |
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| 19:16.16 | jelly | Peachz: ask the people you've gotten webmin from |
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| 19:16.31 | barefoot | k, dumb question, how do i install flashplayer for iceweasel? |
| 19:16.37 | Peachz | Jelly, i got webmin from the net.. i didn't get it from anyone |
| 19:16.43 | Peachz | i just installed via putty |
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| 19:16.59 | jelly | Peachz: someone owns the page you got it from, likely |
| 19:17.12 | klack | jelly: do you have any experience or idea where to get information about my problem? |
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| 19:17.28 | klack | I don't find a solution with google :/ |
| 19:17.32 | jelly | klack: #vmware channel? |
| 19:17.33 | klack | or in that vm community |
| 19:17.35 | Peachz | what do you mean Jelly? Its my own vps |
| 19:17.38 | klack | I am in there |
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| 19:17.44 | klack | nobody's there / answering |
| 19:18.05 | jelly | klack: so, wait |
| 19:18.06 | shadfc | I'm getting a lot of "BUG: soft lockup detected on CPU#0!" on the tty1. Only started happening after I installed the amd64 kernel (dual core opteron) |
| 19:18.35 | Peachz | Jelly, what port does it listen on, i tried 24000,34000,10000 |
| 19:18.58 | jelly | Peachz: you downloaded webmin from a web page. That web page should have instructions or contact details, or some help |
| 19:19.11 | Peachz | mm ok .. |
| 19:19.16 | beardy | !webmin |
| 19:19.16 | dpkg | it has been said that webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/ Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/12/msg00790.html about the removal. Don't use their .debs, they are of extremely poor quality. |
| 19:19.37 | beardy | Stop using that, do yourself and the world a favour. Learn to use your shell. |
| 19:20.24 | jelly | Peachz: if it's not a part of debian, it's not topical here. Sorry. You can use netstat -tanp to figure out which port processes listen to |
| 19:20.24 | xingu | shells beardy |
| 19:20.39 | jelly | beardies xingu |
| 19:20.48 | Peachz | ok ty anyway |
| 19:21.29 | jelly | !factinfo webmin |
| 19:21.29 | dpkg | webmin -- last modified at Thu Nov 8 21:01:53 2007 by chealer!~chealer@216.144.124.89; it has been requested 172 times, last by beardy, 2m 13s ago. |
| 19:22.28 | beardy | Happy belated factoid birth(edit)day. |
| 19:22.52 | format_c | Why does the debian package streamdvd not exist? |
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| 19:23.07 | beardy | There's our winner. |
| 19:23.11 | format_c | I'd to manually compile and correct syntax errors |
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| 19:23.50 | jelly | beardy: those parentheses saved yo ass |
| 19:24.13 | beardy | jelly: Your lack of ur lost yours. |
| 19:24.14 | Aggro__ | format_c: Do you know how hard it is to make a Debian package? |
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| 19:24.34 | format_c | no |
| 19:24.55 | format_c | But I would like to provide that package to debian repos if its not already |
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| 19:25.16 | Aggro__ | format_c: Start by reading this: http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ |
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| 19:25.50 | jelly | format_c: /msg dpkg nmg |
| 19:26.05 | format_c | I didn't read the debian policy completely |
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| 19:31.37 | itguru | I'm trying to remove MySQL completly from a debian system, and then reinstall it apt-get -P does does not do it |
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| 19:32.23 | stew | itguru: what command are you running? |
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| 19:32.58 | SerajewelKS | itguru: i don't think purging mysql will remove database files |
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| 19:33.29 | itguru | SerajewelKS I don't want to remove the databases if I can help it |
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| 19:34.24 | SerajewelKS | itguru: well that's what i'd consider "removing mysql completely" |
| 19:34.25 | n3kl | itguru: dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server |
| 19:34.33 | SerajewelKS | itguru: if you have a different definition then we need to know what that is |
| 19:34.37 | stew | mysql-server is a virtual package |
| 19:34.47 | n3kl | whatever it is |
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| 19:34.54 | itguru | i want to remove the service, not the data |
| 19:35.10 | stew | itguru: aptitude remove mysql-server-5.0 |
| 19:35.19 | SerajewelKS | itguru: then remove mysql-server-5.0 |
| 19:35.30 | SerajewelKS | or 5.1 or whatever it is in the debian version you're using |
| 19:35.36 | stew | itguru: you might also want to remove mysql-common-5.0 |
| 19:35.37 | IronHeart | I have a different idea |
| 19:35.44 | Bert_2 | Hi, what command can I use to extract all zip archives in one directory (with .zip extention) into the same directory ? |
| 19:36.00 | stew | Bert_2: unzip \*.zip |
| 19:36.22 | SerajewelKS | stew: unzip globs its arguments? |
| 19:36.29 | SerajewelKS | tsk tsk |
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| 19:36.46 | Bert_2 | stew: I tried it without the \ and then it didn't work, but with the \ it does, why ? |
| 19:37.00 | itguru | stew: The binaries are still there |
| 19:37.04 | SerajewelKS | Bert_2: the shell is performing the globbing without the \ |
| 19:37.21 | Bert_2 | SerajewelKS: sorry but, what is globbing ? |
| 19:37.23 | SerajewelKS | Bert_2: so it's seeing: "unzip b.zip c.zip d.zip from a.zip" |
| 19:37.24 | italorossi | Bert_2: for i in `ls *.zip`; do unzip $i; done; |
| 19:37.28 | SerajewelKS | Bert_2: wildcard expansion |
| 19:37.44 | SerajewelKS | Bert_2: the shell expands it and passes all the files as separate arguments |
| 19:37.55 | SerajewelKS | Bert_2: if you use \*.zip then unzip sees, literally, "*.zip" |
| 19:38.00 | pobega | Wow. Off-topic, but my school officially sucks. |
| 19:38.05 | Bert_2 | SerajewelKS: aaah, so unzip can't work with a wildcart :P |
| 19:38.09 | SerajewelKS | Bert_2: and apparently unzip does the globbing itself, and this means something else |
| 19:38.11 | pobega | They switched all the mail servers to Windows Live Hotmail, and now it is locking me out due to my OS. |
| 19:38.14 | SerajewelKS | Bert_2: not for what you want to do, no |
| 19:38.23 | Bert_2 | SerajewelKS: okey |
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| 19:38.30 | Bert_2 | stew SerajewelKS: thx |
| 19:38.42 | SerajewelKS | pobega: i had some fun getting linux working on the network here my fist year |
| 19:38.53 | format_c | pobega, public reachable? |
| 19:38.56 | SerajewelKS | pobega: they used some proprietary authentication/scanning BS that required windows or OS X |
| 19:39.12 | SerajewelKS | and he leaves |
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| 19:39.23 | pobega | Wow, my irssi closed cause of iceweasel, what did you say? |
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| 19:40.15 | SerajewelKS | pobega: they used some proprietary authentication/scanning BS that required windows or OS X |
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| 19:40.31 | SerajewelKS | i got around that by running a VM to log on |
| 19:40.32 | Aggro__ | pobega: You can probably get paast it if you switch your User agent to Firefox. |
| 19:40.34 | pobega | SerajewelKS: Yeah, mine has the same problem. Any chance you can help me get around it? |
| 19:40.43 | SerajewelKS | when i started working at ITS i pushed hard enough to get that changed |
| 19:40.46 | stew | itguru: tell us exactly what command you are running and tell us exactly what you are expecting to happen which isn't happening |
| 19:40.47 | pobega | Aggro__: Yeah, that works, but I still can't get on the damn school WiFi. I hate the stupidity of the world. |
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| 19:41.32 | format_c | pobega, d'acrod |
| 19:42.16 | pobega | format_c: What? |
| 19:42.29 | format_c | d'acord |
| 19:42.35 | format_c | =typo |
| 19:42.57 | format_c | means "in harmony" |
| 19:43.10 | Orbixx | d'acord means ok |
| 19:43.15 | pobega | format_c: Ahhh, okay. |
| 19:43.20 | jelly | format_c: "d'accord"? |
| 19:43.29 | pobega | So, even with the UA spoof, I still can't "click" my emails, so it's still useless. |
| 19:43.49 | format_c | jelly, ya might be |
| 19:43.52 | SerajewelKS | pobega: run a windows VM with IE? |
| 19:44.15 | pobega | SerajewelKS: Heh, I don't really have a powerful enough computer for a VM. My only computer is my Eee PC. |
| 19:44.19 | moshii | or run ie in wine |
| 19:44.32 | tarzeau | add your screenshots! http://screenshots.debian.net/ |
| 19:44.36 | moshii | pobega: windos 98 |
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| 19:44.46 | karrotx | does anyone know which package gives the db driver for mysql (for php?) |
| 19:44.46 | SerajewelKS | pobega: bitch a lot? i dunno |
| 19:44.52 | SerajewelKS | pobega: worked for me :) |
| 19:45.00 | moshii | tarzeau: Things has gotten that bad? |
| 19:45.02 | SerajewelKS | karrotx: php[45]-mysql |
| 19:45.11 | pobega | SerajewelKS: I may just petition to the school. It's horrible there. |
| 19:45.12 | karrotx | thanks |
| 19:45.14 | tarzeau | moshii: how bad? |
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| 19:45.37 | SerajewelKS | pobega: i hear ya |
| 19:45.43 | moshii | bets there will be lots of not-far-off childpron anime backgrounds |
| 19:45.48 | pobega | tarzeau: I've been uploading screenshots for a while to help out -- It'd be cool if this somehow was integral to Synaptic, in the way that you can view sshots from within Synaptic's UI. |
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| 19:45.57 | moshii | tarzeau: that we have to take screenshots to prove something |
| 19:46.06 | tarzeau | pobega: cool idea! |
| 19:46.15 | tarzeau | moshii: it's not about proving anything |
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| 19:46.18 | SerajewelKS | pobega: i do so much shit here that's technically against university policy, but the director of ITS knows me and knows i'm using it for good and not evil, so she lets me get away with it |
| 19:46.27 | tarzeau | pobega: and fonts.debian.net display of fonts? |
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| 19:46.53 | pobega | SerajewelKS: I wish I was good enough at computers to be able to do stuff like that, I still need to learn a lot more. |
| 19:47.04 | pobega | tarzeau: In Synaptic you mean? I think that may be a bit overkill, heh. |
| 19:47.17 | SerajewelKS | pobega: hell i've spoofed ARP replies on this network to cover for a router that stopped replying to ARP |
| 19:47.23 | SerajewelKS | anywhere else i'd have my ass expelled |
| 19:47.33 | pobega | tarzeau: Though an option for things like this could never hurt :] Perhaps we should request it upstream |
| 19:47.42 | SerajewelKS | my dorm was the only one with net access that weekend :) |
| 19:47.44 | vlt | Hello. Any idea how to convert a wodim audio cd image (small .toc and large data file) into a cdemu "mountable" image? |
| 19:48.38 | moshii | vlt: all2iso might work |
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| 19:48.59 | SerajewelKS | vlt: iirc you can't mount audio cds anyway |
| 19:49.06 | SerajewelKS | vlt: they are not iso format |
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| 19:49.22 | moshii | tarzeau: I see, its screenshots of applications, thats not so bad |
| 19:49.46 | SerajewelKS | pobega: let me tell you, any chance i can get to do white-hat spoofing of ARP, i will take :) |
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| 19:50.34 | rohan | i want apt to print a list of URLs of the packages to be downloaded, so that i can download from a more convenient location. how do i do that? |
| 19:50.48 | moshii | SerajewelKS: audio is orange book, or something, there is a kernel module that'll make cdda tracks appear as files that you can copy directly |
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| 19:51.55 | stew | rohan: --print-uris |
| 19:51.55 | abrotman | rohan: man apt-get ... see --print-uris |
| 19:52.04 | pobega | SerajewelKS: Honestly, I don't even know what that is, heh. |
| 19:52.15 | pobega | SerajewelKS: Are there end user programs to do these things, or do you do it manually? |
| 19:52.17 | rohan | abrotman, stew : yes, i used that, but it prints a lot of other things too. i just want to print the URLs to the packages. |
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| 19:52.36 | abrotman | rohan: prints other thigns like what? you can grep those out |
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| 19:53.04 | rohan | abrotman: if i could print only the first field in such a thing -- 'http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/x/xalan/libxalan110_1.10-3.3_i386.deb' libxalan110_1.10-3.3_i386.deb 1172906 SHA256:6c41f90559e04095d59441ea54c9aaeff14b94545e6b74c143c396591e58ece1 |
| 19:53.10 | rohan | it would work |
| 19:53.17 | moshii | big mistake there |
| 19:53.18 | abrotman | rohan: ask #ubuntu |
| 19:53.19 | stew | rohan: have a look at apt-zip |
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| 19:53.39 | rohan | abrotman: err why, the procedure remains the same. |
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| 19:53.47 | rohan | stew: ok, googling it now |
| 19:53.48 | moshii | rohan: hint `man cut` |
| 19:53.54 | abrotman | rohan: because you're using ubuntu, we don't support Ubuntu here |
| 19:54.12 | rohan | abrotman: ok, but the question i asked is not ubuntu-specific. |
| 19:54.36 | stew | rohan: its not debian specific |
| 19:54.46 | rohan | moshii: thanks, i guess some cut foo or sed foo is required |
| 19:54.46 | vlt | moshii: What pkg do I need for all2iso? Can't find that program anywhere. |
| 19:54.48 | format_c | rohan, don't forget awk |
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| 19:54.56 | moshii | rohan: cut is hardly "foo" |
| 19:55.01 | format_c | is much more better than cut |
| 19:55.03 | format_c | IMHO |
| 19:55.10 | n3kl | what bluetooth proximity tools exist for linux? |
| 19:55.17 | rohan | ok, i am sorry for asking a ubuntu question here. |
| 19:55.25 | n3kl | rohan: so don't |
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| 19:55.29 | pobega | format_c: I use awk too, I love it. |
| 19:55.38 | rohan | moshii: err is isn't "cut foo" supposed to mean good skill with cut? or i think it is fu. |
| 19:55.41 | moshii | vlt: I'm not sure its in debian, you'll have to build it, its the only thing that can handle weird formats though |
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| 19:56.04 | moshii | rohan: um, yeah if you want to be big headed about using simple tools |
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| 19:56.13 | vlt | moshii: Oh ... ok, I'll try to find it. |
| 19:56.35 | rohan | moshii: i don't mind what tool i use, if i can get the first field in the row to be printed. i am reading the cut manpage right now |
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| 19:57.23 | moshii | rohan: probably cut -d " " -f 1 ... but I didnt tell you that |
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| 19:58.02 | format_c | moshii, the problem of that is, that cut only works with fixed width delims. |
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| 19:58.23 | rohan | format_c: could you please tell me the appropriate command in awk? |
| 19:58.29 | format_c | awk '{print $1;}' |
| 19:58.31 | moshii | format_c: oh, yeah,shit |
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| 19:59.26 | moshii | format_c: actually, if he wants the first field cut will work |
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| 19:59.34 | uvcju | hey |
| 19:59.52 | format_c | moshii, of course. But I learned to love that tool |
| 20:00.05 | format_c | very fast and poweful |
| 20:00.19 | rohan | format_c, moshii : thanks, i usedapt-get dist-upgrade --print-uris | awk '{print $1;}' > urls and it worked |
| 20:00.22 | uvcju | does somebody know a connection manager similar to network-manager with gnome? (wired, wireless and vpn connections) |
| 20:00.22 | hatter | which file am i editing when i do cronab -e ? |
| 20:00.41 | gionn_ | uvcju, wicd |
| 20:00.44 | moshii | uvcju: network-manager-gnome? |
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| 20:02.02 | vlt | moshii: I installed all2iso. Do you know where I can find documentation? |
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| 20:02.29 | jfg | hi |
| 20:02.36 | uvcju | gionn_: ty. wicd seems to have no vpn connection support, should i do this with another tool? |
| 20:02.37 | format_c | vlt, did you try /usr/share/doc? |
| 20:02.49 | moshii | vlt: if you just run it without any arguments it'll tell you want to do |
| 20:02.54 | jfg | i try to play with live-helper but i've some bugs obviously |
| 20:02.55 | vlt | moshii: And there seems to be no toc2iso program included. (Which is maybe because audio isn't iso at all ...) |
| 20:02.57 | moshii | format_c: its not a debian package |
| 20:03.06 | format_c | ah ok |
| 20:03.12 | gionn_ | uvcju, you can use the command-line tools if you need to connect to a vpn (vpnc or openvpn) |
| 20:03.27 | jfg | i built a simple system with "lh_config -b usb-hdd" and "lh_build" |
| 20:03.41 | jfg | but when launching binary.img with qemu |
| 20:03.42 | moshii | vlt: all2iso tries to find blocks in the image that look like they should go in an "iso" image.. it should split the audio tracks out |
| 20:03.49 | vlt | format_c, moshii: I found a deb pkg on gnu.ethz.ch/debian |
| 20:03.50 | uvcju | gionn_: all right |
| 20:03.53 | uvcju | thank you |
| 20:03.55 | jfg | i tell me that he can't find /vmlinuz |
| 20:04.01 | moshii | vlt: it did when I stuck some dreamcast stuff through it IIRC |
| 20:04.11 | vlt | moshii: I'll try ... |
| 20:04.11 | jfg | i verified on chroot dir, and vmlinuz symlink is on / |
| 20:04.16 | jfg | i dunno what to do |
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| 20:05.20 | moshii | vlt: another trick is to run some windows tool in wine to do the conversion. Stupid cd image formats are annoying though ;) |
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| 20:07.21 | vlt | moshii: It's an image created by k3b using wodim/cdrecord. I _could_ burn it to a real CD-R and then re-read it. But I thought I could skip that step ... |
| 20:08.05 | vlt | moshii: Any other idea how to extract the tracks? all2iso didn't work. |
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| 20:08.56 | moshii | vlt: mmm have you tried a cdripper and pointing the device it rips from to the image? |
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| 20:10.10 | moshii | vlt: bchunk might be able to split the tracks out too |
| 20:10.22 | vlt | moshii: I tried to `losetup` the raw file and then run `cdparanoia` which didn't work either. |
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| 20:11.17 | vlt | moshii: Maybe the problem is that I got two files: A 17 Byte image.toc and a 500 MB image file. |
| 20:11.41 | format_c | vlt, did you try to mount it using loop kernel module? |
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| 20:11.57 | vlt | format_c: I can't mount an audio image |
| 20:12.02 | moshii | vlt: the toc is just a listing of the start/end of each track? |
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| 20:12.31 | vlt | moshii: It's quite binary ;) |
| 20:12.43 | moshii | vlt: bugger :/ |
| 20:13.02 | moshii | vlt: cdrecord doesnt have some option to split it? |
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| 20:14.29 | evilsporkman | looking for someone who knows how the openjdk-6 build works...I am trying to apply a small innocuous-looking patch to HotSpot for research, but libjvm fails to link with problems about relocation (I am not touching the build options, just parts of hotspot itself) |
| 20:14.41 | vlt | moshii: I'd really like to create an emulated cd image so I can run abcde to do the id3 tagging for me ... |
| 20:15.09 | stew | evilsporkman: ask #debian-java on irc.debian.org |
| 20:15.16 | evilsporkman | stew: thanks! |
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| 20:15.27 | evilsporkman | is irc.debian.org the real one? |
| 20:15.34 | moshii | vlt: musicbrains can tag the files after you've ripped them |
| 20:16.00 | stew | evilsporkman: its oftc |
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| 20:17.21 | SerajewelKS | pobega: i wrote a C program to spoof ARP for this particular case |
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| 20:18.59 | format_c | SerajewelKS, do you know ettercap? |
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| 20:20.26 | hatter | can i assure that an external usb drive always gets the same /dev/sd* ? |
| 20:20.38 | format_c | hatta, use udev |
| 20:21.03 | format_c | ahm forget it |
| 20:21.22 | format_c | no |
| 20:21.23 | moshii | hatter: usb massstorage uses scsi emulation, so usb drives should always get sd? |
| 20:21.41 | SerajewelKS | format_c: i forget exactly what i used |
| 20:21.46 | SerajewelKS | format_c: i think libpcap |
| 20:22.04 | hatter | moshii, what i mean is, can it always get /dev/sdc even if /dev/sdb is available |
| 20:22.10 | moshii | hatter: if you want to make sure that drive gets a specific node you could use udev I think, or just label the fs and mount by label not device node |
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| 20:23.26 | hatter | it gets autodetected, but not automounted, i guess its the autodetect mechanism that needs to be told what to give it, is that udev ? |
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| 20:23.43 | Anubis_be | hey, is the wiki.debian.org down? |
| 20:24.01 | moshii | hatter: why do you need to give it a specific node? |
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| 20:24.42 | stew | Anubis_be: yes |
| 20:25.06 | Anubis_be | damn |
| 20:26.09 | hatter | moshii, the scenario is a s/w raid1. if the second disk (/dev/sdb) fails, then gets removed from the array, then an external usb will take /dev/sdb |
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| 20:27.01 | moshii | hatter: what array the disk belongs to is in the raid superblock, it doesnt matter where the disk gets attached in /dev |
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| 20:27.25 | hatter | moshii, i am speaking of the external usb disk |
| 20:27.52 | moshii | hatter: does it matter than the external disk takes sdb? |
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| 20:27.55 | henux | Hello, I need to configure a Debian server like this: the server has a www root at /var/www/apache2-default, they want a FTP server which can be used to upload stuff into that dir. I just installed proftpd, any idea how to get that directory availble in the FTP? |
| 20:28.13 | hatter | moshii, i use autofs to mount the external disk which is told where the disk is with /dev/sdc |
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| 20:28.48 | format_c | henux, read the documentation |
| 20:28.57 | rgouveia | hey ... I can't use ffmpeg -vcodec mpeg4. Is this broken on testing? |
| 20:29.02 | moshii | hatter: is it always the same disk? |
| 20:29.08 | hatter | moshii, yes |
| 20:29.14 | moshii | hatter: label the fs then |
| 20:29.28 | hatter | moshii, well no, 2 identical disks get rotated |
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| 20:29.48 | vlt | moshii: I installed bchunk which wants to read a bin and cue file :( |
| 20:29.56 | moshii | hatter: so label their fs'es and mount using the label not the node |
| 20:30.18 | hatter | moshii, i see, i havent investigated labelling, this will work with autofs ? |
| 20:30.41 | moshii | hatter: it works with mount, so I would think so |
| 20:30.42 | stew | hatter: if the filesystem is labelled you can refer to /dev/disk/by-label/whatever instead of /dev/sdc |
| 20:31.08 | stew | hatter: or without labelling you can use /dev/disk/by-uuid/whatever |
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| 20:32.37 | hatter | stew, hi stew, thx, thats great |
| 20:32.41 | hatter | moshii, thx also |
| 20:32.49 | moshii | forgot about uuid's |
| 20:33.42 | hatter | is a uuid is unique to a brand ? so two identical disks would use the same uuid ? |
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| 20:34.29 | stew | hatter: no, its meant to be unique to a particular partition, two identical disks would not have the same uuid |
| 20:35.21 | maligor | mm, what happens if you intentionally create two identical uuid partitions? |
| 20:36.29 | xingu | you get your license revoked |
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| 20:37.08 | mick_laptop | anyone know of a console based IM client? |
| 20:37.14 | mick_laptop | for AIM |
| 20:37.19 | SerajewelKS | mick_laptop: pork |
| 20:37.34 | moshii | mick_laptop: naim rings a bell |
| 20:37.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | .OO(hm, if I set up a vm, could I set it up such that it generates the same "machine ID" as needed for a license of a program on a windows-computer whose hard-disks are failing right now ) |
| 20:37.41 | mick_laptop | thanks |
| 20:38.10 | SerajewelKS | CutMeOwnThroat: about the only thing you could really try is setting the MAC address of the network card to the same one |
| 20:38.13 | jelly | CutMeOwnThroat: depends on how the machine-id is calculated |
| 20:38.15 | stew | mick_laptop: for which version of debian? |
| 20:38.23 | jelly | CutMeOwnThroat: which app? |
| 20:38.25 | moshii | CutMeOwnThroat: it would need the same hardware |
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| 20:38.39 | doomster | hi |
| 20:38.42 | hatter | which file am i editing when i do crontab -e ? |
| 20:39.07 | stew | hatter: /var/spool/cron/crontabs/$username |
| 20:39.16 | hatter | stew, thx |
| 20:39.25 | keith4_ | what is the "proper" way to disable ipv6 support? |
| 20:39.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | some chemistry related thing called cache - also possibly hyperchem... for hyperchem I couldn't even find the license (I only see it's installed on our machine) - for cache I see it's having an option to calculate a machine-ID |
| 20:39.32 | jelly | !noipv6 |
| 20:39.32 | dpkg | it has been said that noipv6 is http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/409, or echo install ipv6 /bin/true >> /etc/modprobe.d/local |
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| 20:39.46 | jelly | keith4_: ^^ |
| 20:39.51 | MrWax | When I search for a result with 'cat file | grep BLA' it seeks for each line that contains 'BLA' -is there any way to set a max on this? |
| 20:39.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | a new computer would be faster and have more ram... so windows could reboot^H^H^H^H^H^H run in a vm? :-P |
| 20:39.57 | keith4_ | jelly: thanks |
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| 20:40.24 | jelly | keith4_: not saying that it's proper, but simple and complete |
| 20:40.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh well, probably not what is wanted here anyways :( |
| 20:40.29 | e81 | hmm |
| 20:40.32 | SpeedyG | phorce1: a computer user-friendly? maybe users should first become computer-friendly ;) |
| 20:40.39 | simonrvn | i raise you a ^w for your six ^h ;p |
| 20:40.41 | keith4_ | jelly: proper-er than blacklisting the ipv6 module ;-) |
| 20:40.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | simonrvn, hehe |
| 20:41.18 | simonrvn | :) |
| 20:41.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | simonrvn, "^?^?^?^?^?^?"? |
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| 20:41.30 | jelly | keith4_: blacklisting it the usual way isn't good enough, because some apps still try to use (= modprobe it) and generate warnings in syslog |
| 20:41.39 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 20:42.05 | jelly | keith4_: so "install ipv6 /bin/true" makes them, er, happy? |
| 20:42.14 | keith4_ | jelly: excellent. i'll try it |
| 20:42.47 | vlt | moshii: wodim's an page only says "`readom -clone f=somefile` will create the files somefile and somefile.toc. Then write the CD using: `wodim -raw96r -clone -v somefile`". Nothing about extracting or converting :/ |
| 20:42.59 | vlt | Can wodim burn to a "dummy" device? |
| 20:43.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | simonrvn, ... this is how we see we are geeks... not only was I understood, people can expand on it :-/ show this to any of the guys sitting next to me.... |
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| 20:43.31 | simonrvn | CutMeOwnThroat: "WTF are you talking about?" kinda looks |
| 20:44.04 | moshii | vlt: easy solution here would be to buy a cdrw |
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| 20:44.14 | e81 | keith4_: are you also running BIND? |
| 20:44.20 | jelly | simonrvn, CutMeOwnThroat ^C it, now |
| 20:44.32 | simonrvn | i get that all the time from my partner/wife, hehe. "hon, could you put that in layperson's terms, please?" me: "but it is, already :/" |
| 20:44.39 | simonrvn | jelly: yes daddy ;p |
| 20:44.40 | keith4_ | e81: nope |
| 20:44.54 | jelly | & |
| 20:44.56 | vlt | moshii: I just don't want to believe that this is the only working solution ;) |
| 20:45.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | jelly, yes sir! we'll at least ^Z it until you stopped preying on us :-P |
| 20:45.39 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 20:45.44 | simonrvn | jelly: see ya |
| 20:46.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | like now :) |
| 20:48.11 | xingu | introduces CutMeOwnThroat to ^w |
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| 20:48.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | what virtual machine would be preferable to run right now? There's a free-ish vmware, bochs.... hm, open-vm-tools |
| 20:48.32 | maligor | javavm! |
| 20:48.38 | simonrvn | virtualbox is pretty cool |
| 20:48.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | xingu, you're a shadow of simonrvn? |
| 20:48.43 | moshii | CutMeOwnThroat: open-vm-tools is vmware |
| 20:48.48 | beardy | CutMeOwnThroat: Lets add virtualbox to that selection. |
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| 20:49.01 | beardy | Or sun-vm or whatever it's called now. |
| 20:49.01 | maligor | I vote for virtualbox |
| 20:49.03 | xingu | oh, yeah. :) |
| 20:49.12 | vlt | moshii: I read about musicbrainz on their site. Can you reccomend a client available on Debian? |
| 20:49.13 | simonrvn | works out of the box, pun not intended |
| 20:49.15 | maligor | sun xVM Virtualbox I think |
| 20:49.19 | moshii | vlt: I use amarok |
| 20:49.20 | xingu | CutMeOwnThroat: scrollback stuck :p |
| 20:49.35 | simonrvn | -ose or sun's are almost the same |
| 20:49.36 | xingu | CutMeOwnThroat: kvm |
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| 20:49.51 | maligor | simonrvn, does the ose have usb pass? |
| 20:49.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | ok, I'll have a look at virtualbox next the opportunity arises, thx |
| 20:50.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | introduces xingo to PgUp |
| 20:50.22 | vlt | moshii: Does it work with compressed (ogg/mp3) files too or do I need to analyse the files in wav format? |
| 20:50.32 | beardy | also demonstrates PageDown |
| 20:50.33 | simonrvn | maligor: for the most part |
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| 20:51.06 | vlt | moshii: And do you know a cmd line tool? |
| 20:51.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | also introduces xingu to /lastlog for completeness |
| 20:51.30 | moshii | vlt: mm nothing comes to mind, apt-cache probably knows |
| 20:51.41 | beardy | vlt: Not sure if the Picard client if Free, and in Debian.. but it supports many formats, FLAC, and so on, too, yes, mp3 and ogg of course too. |
| 20:51.57 | vlt | moshii: Ok, thanks for your help. |
| 20:52.02 | vlt | beardy: Thanks. |
| 20:52.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | xingu, kvm looks also pretty cool - albeit slightly scary, as in "linux showing bluescreens" |
| 20:52.31 | vlt | beardy: Yes, picard is available. |
| 20:52.44 | xingu | kvm is definitely the coolest of the vm designs |
| 20:52.49 | moshii | CutMeOwnThroat: kvm is good if you only need what qemu can do |
| 20:52.52 | xingu | from my PoV anyway |
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| 20:53.27 | moshii | xingu: is it any different from all the other ones that use processor extensions? |
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| 20:53.37 | beardy | vlt: Then that's what you want to try. |
| 20:53.50 | beardy | vlt: I've only used the win32 version, but that's very nice. |
| 20:53.52 | xingu | moshii: yes, they did the hard yards to get a proper *kernel* abstraction done. |
| 20:53.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | moshii, package description says if you got a "newer [AMD or intel] processor" with the correct kernel, you don't need qemu but have hardware support for virtualization |
| 20:54.18 | simonrvn | useless for me then |
| 20:54.22 | vlt | beardy: hmmm ... seems like picard needs X :( |
| 20:54.30 | xingu | moshii: also, in the fullness of time it will support emulated guest cpu arch's |
| 20:54.30 | beardy | vlt: Yeah.. |
| 20:54.46 | moshii | CutMeOwnThroat: kvm uses qemu for "emulation" but all the execution is done with the cpu extensions |
| 20:55.14 | beardy | vlt: IIRC there's some python libs and so on, for musicbrainz, don't know if there's any cli client, would be nice. |
| 20:55.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | moshii, you might be right - but that's at least not how I read the package description....perhaps that description is a bit unclear/wrong there |
| 20:55.57 | xingu | about the only contender from an arch perspective is rusty's little plaything |
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| 20:57.49 | karrotx | anyone here use policyd with postfix? |
| 20:58.00 | klack | where are all the programs, that are available over tabcompletion? |
| 20:58.04 | klack | like "rm" etc. pp. |
| 20:58.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | vlt, how about libtunepimp3 - package says "MusicBrainz tagging library and simple tagger application" |
| 20:58.14 | klack | I have a script, which is ...I need to find out where it is |
| 20:58.18 | klack | because I need to edit it |
| 20:58.20 | klack | how do I do that |
| 20:58.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | klack, "type programname" |
| 20:58.38 | moshii | klack: which |
| 20:58.42 | klack | thx |
| 20:58.44 | simonrvn | klack: try which yourscript or what CMOT said |
| 20:58.44 | xingu | lguest, that's the one I ws thinking of |
| 20:58.46 | klack | got it |
| 20:58.49 | klack | type did it |
| 20:58.58 | moshii | klack: some shells have those as builtins too |
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| 20:59.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | klack, type is a bash builtin - try "help type" instead or using "man" |
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| 20:59.33 | hatter | someone here feel like showing me a simple script that would ping a host and if no reply it would initiate poff-dsl-provider then pon-dsl-provider ? |
| 20:59.52 | jhamlin | Is there a calendar app that will actually display event titles in their entirety (with word-wrap) instead of truncating them?!?!?!???? |
| 21:00.00 | jhamlin | In month view |
| 21:00.53 | abrotman | what you say?!?!?!?!?!???????!??!?! |
| 21:00.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | hatter, I think you should just edit your /etc/network/interfaces to match your needs... |
| 21:01.30 | hatter | CutMeOwnThroat, it does that and it works, but sometimes, the adsl modem does something weird and the ppp doesnt notice |
| 21:01.51 | klack | is someone good in regexp? |
| 21:01.56 | xingu | http://lguest.ozlabs.org/ <-- that fella right there is about the lightest weight way to run linux-on-linux if that's your use-case |
| 21:02.00 | hatter | so i am thinking of a failsafe |
| 21:02.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | klack, no, not even the ones who are |
| 21:02.30 | klack | I need to exchange / to - ---> I have this: -e 's////-/g' |
| 21:02.34 | klack | which doesnot work correctly |
| 21:02.40 | simonrvn | um |
| 21:02.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | xingu, nah, was thinking of bluescreen-in-a-window |
| 21:03.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | klack, you can use X instead of / as delimiter, then it works |
| 21:03.20 | klack | how do you mean? |
| 21:03.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | klack, sX/X.Xg |
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| 21:03.33 | klack | I am not really familiar with regexp |
| 21:03.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | or you can quote the '/' with a backslash |
| 21:03.40 | simonrvn | the delimiter isn't restricted to / , you can use anything |
| 21:04.01 | klack | '/' would work? like in 's/'/'/-/g? |
| 21:04.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | klack, that's got nothing to do with regexp - just "/" is what is used as field delimiters for the patterns, so you cannot use it inside the pattern |
| 21:04.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | no |
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| 21:04.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | klack, 's/\//-/g' would work |
| 21:04.26 | klack | thanks |
| 21:04.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | but sX/X-Xg is simpler and would also work with sed |
| 21:05.36 | klack | works, thanks |
| 21:05.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | klack, you might go to #bash and ask that - I'm sure they have a rather long FAQ entry on quoting from which you would benefit |
| 21:05.49 | klack | CutMeOwnThroat: your way works for me - thanks a lot |
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| 21:06.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | klack, it's in general good to understand quoting... |
| 21:06.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | or... |
| 21:06.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | its rather bad *not* to understand quoting :) |
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| 21:06.45 | klack | well yeah, I'll give you 100 bucks if you teach me :P |
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| 21:07.25 | tCzern | hi, I need a repository which includes the -dev dependency for libxml2 2.6.3 |
| 21:08.11 | simonrvn | tCzern: any of them |
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| 21:08.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | klack, haha... done ;) |
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| 21:08.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | klack, give it to some human-rights association :-P |
| 21:08.38 | hatter | what is the general consensus on offering paid jobs in irc ? does anyone care ? |
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| 21:09.24 | tCzern | I don't see in in Synaptic Manager, it shows only version 2.6.27 |
| 21:09.27 | moshii | would be nice if I could get a paid debian job.. |
| 21:09.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | hatter, nobody cares if the pay is too low? :-/ -- kidding aside, it's offtopic here, other channels might not bother, don't know about what freenode thinks |
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| 21:10.13 | simonrvn | *cough* www.freenode.net *cough* |
| 21:10.16 | klack | freenodes hates offtopic discussions |
| 21:10.32 | simonrvn | i haven't seen any staffer bother people about that |
| 21:10.36 | simonrvn | !ot |
| 21:10.36 | dpkg | Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic (i.e., Debian support); imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. #debian-offtopic is the place for longer off-topic discussions. |
| 21:10.39 | tCzern | anyone? |
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| 21:11.22 | stew | tCzern: show us the output of "apt-cache policy" ; use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 21:11.33 | tim | hey all, quick one - is it possible to find out what version of gcc my currently instled kernel was compiled with? |
| 21:11.52 | stew | tim: cat /proc/version |
| 21:12.09 | simonrvn | klack: "freenode" doesn't really set channel policy, the channels do. of course, channels have to abide by FN policy, but i don't recall FN having anything to do with being off-topic. |
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| 21:12.37 | tim | aah cheers stew :-) |
| 21:12.41 | beardy | Of course they don't. |
| 21:12.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | klack, in your case the outer 'quoted stuff' hard-quote everything from the shell, so bash won't touch it (which it normally does) the \ quotes the / for sed itself, so sed will ignore the / as a delimiter in this case - that means it will not regard / as a "special character" for this instance |
| 21:13.05 | tCzern | it says command not found |
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| 21:13.23 | stew | tCzern: this is 64studio? |
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| 21:13.58 | tCzern | yes, and again, I have 4 debian repository listed in the Synpatic Manager |
| 21:14.05 | MrWax | when i do this cmd -> cat file | grep -m 10 BLA it returns the first 10 lines of those that include BLA |
| 21:14.08 | MrWax | how can I have the 10 BLA lines randomly throughout the file returned? |
| 21:14.11 | stew | tCzern: again, your questions are off-topic here |
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| 21:14.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | simonrvn, www.freenode.net has it's own offtopic-rules, which are "inappropriate" - i.g. channels that are just there to advertise a channel on other servers |
| 21:15.03 | tCzern | the little spiral or nautilus, is a Debian logo right? |
| 21:15.04 | simonrvn | CutMeOwnThroat: yeh, but that's more a |
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| 21:15.13 | simonrvn | 'meta" channel thing |
| 21:15.25 | stew | tCzern: http://debian.org/logos |
| 21:15.56 | tCzern | in my repository listing, I have ftp.debian.org/debian as second entry |
| 21:16.14 | tCzern | how can I be out of topic with my question here? |
| 21:16.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | tCzern, look, we're not meaning to be impolite - but nobody gets paid, we kinda do this for fun - and it's no fun at all running into all kinds of problems, because things are different than to expect for a real debian system - now you might disagree to that, but your opinion in that regard only matters if you *answer* questions |
| 21:16.36 | simonrvn | !not debian |
| 21:16.36 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it probably falls short of Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. If your distribution has an IRC channel, you can use it instead. Even if your distribution has fewer people in its IRC channel, or doesn't have one, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. |
| 21:16.38 | tCzern | the 3rd line refers to security.debian.org |
| 21:16.44 | stew | tCzern: yes, i'm sorry we are unable to help you. I'd suggest that you ask in #64studio. if you are not getting help there, i'd try a 64studio mailing list, or http://64studio.com/support |
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| 21:17.24 | stew | if there isn't an apt-cache program on 64studio, its more different than I would have possibly expected |
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| 21:17.46 | simonrvn | no kidding... no apt |
| 21:17.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | perhaps they force the use of aptitude :) |
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| 21:18.00 | simonrvn | still need libapt |
| 21:18.00 | tCzern | all I was asking for is a list of debian repositories. |
| 21:18.13 | tCzern | didn't even bother your with a specific questin |
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| 21:18.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | tCzern, /msg dpkg sources.list |
| 21:18.32 | valdyn | mixing debian and 64studio is fucked up |
| 21:18.33 | tCzern | in this channel? |
| 21:18.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | tCzern, also feel free to ask the robot about anything in a query window |
| 21:18.44 | tCzern | ok |
| 21:19.29 | tCzern | RTFM ? |
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| 21:19.39 | Optic | hey, are the madwifi packages available in testing? |
| 21:19.52 | valdyn | Optic: what does pdo say about that? |
| 21:19.53 | valdyn | !pdo |
| 21:19.53 | dpkg | http://packages.debian.org/ - here you can search for debian packages and their contents. Pretty Damned Obvious, isn't it?, or http://people.debian.org/, in some contexts. Maybe even http://planet.debian.org/ |
| 21:19.59 | jelly | tCzern: you won't find older versions than what's in stable in normal repositories any more; since you said you wanted a -dev package corresponding to libxml2=2.6.3-something, you can only try "/msg dpkg sdn" or archive.debian.org |
| 21:20.06 | stew | tCzern: what you are trying to do is very likely unwise, you should be looking for help from someone familiar with your os |
| 21:20.17 | keith4_ | in case anyone ever comes across it... Coldfusion 8 does not play well with IPv6 on debian (or any other linux variant, probably) |
| 21:20.48 | jelly | tCzern: if I had to guess, I'd say the distribution you're using is probably based off a rather old debian release |
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| 21:20.56 | tCzern | jelly thank you! |
| 21:20.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | simonrvn, yes - but that's the only thing that I'd say is "freenodes opinion" |
| 21:21.07 | Optic | ahh, apparently not |
| 21:21.08 | Optic | hmm |
| 21:21.12 | simonrvn | CutMeOwnThroat: agreed |
| 21:21.14 | Optic | i wonder how I can use my atheros card |
| 21:21.19 | Optic | it worked in etch :( |
| 21:21.39 | jelly | tCzern: tell them their sources.list are broken, and to use the debian release name like "sarge" or "etch" instead of "stable" in their sources.list |
| 21:21.43 | valdyn | Optic: theres a driver in the kernel |
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| 21:21.52 | Optic | oh, i see |
| 21:21.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | 64 |
| 21:21.59 | valdyn | Optic: madwifi is obsolete ( though it might still be of better quality, i dont know ) |
| 21:22.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | grr |
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| 21:22.16 | valdyn | Optic: ath5k for your older card i guess? |
| 21:22.34 | Optic | it's an ar5212 |
| 21:22.52 | valdyn | Optic: the madwifi site has all the info you need.. |
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| 21:23.37 | simonrvn | CutMeOwnThroat: 32 gaaaaaar |
| 21:23.49 | valdyn | three drivers, MadWifi, ath5k and ath9k. |
| 21:23.49 | valdyn | Download Latest Release: MadWifi v0.9.4 |
| 21:23.54 | valdyn | ops, sorry |
| 21:24.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | simonrvn, seems some wiseass removed the ctrl-F shortcut for "find" in xchat... now I'm always typing my searches into the channel :-/ |
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| 21:24.30 | Optic | hmm |
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| 21:24.40 | simonrvn | CutMeOwnThroat: :( |
| 21:24.51 | valdyn | Optic: your chip is listed as supported |
| 21:24.51 | trifler | hurm xorg.conf is one weird file im so confused :S |
| 21:25.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | rather annoying... what if I search for "sex" - will be embarrassing |
| 21:25.01 | simonrvn | you can always add it back in if it doesn't conflict ;) |
| 21:25.05 | Optic | yes, it detected and worked just fine until I upgraded to testing :) |
| 21:25.31 | valdyn | Optic: using madwifi driver or ath5k? |
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| 21:25.39 | Optic | madwifi |
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| 21:25.45 | Optic | from packages |
| 21:25.53 | valdyn | Optic: uname -r |
| 21:26.15 | Optic | 2.6.26-1-686 |
| 21:27.01 | valdyn | Optic: driver is there and it should work at least |
| 21:27.24 | Optic | weird. it should show up as ath0 or somesuch? |
| 21:27.34 | valdyn | Optic: lsmod | grep ath5k |
| 21:27.52 | Optic | ah, not loaded |
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| 21:27.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | simonrvn, hm, only if I find out what runs "find in page", though |
| 21:28.00 | Optic | loaded ath5k with modprobe and we're in business |
| 21:28.15 | valdyn | Optic: sure? it should have loaded automagically |
| 21:28.21 | valdyn | Optic: or are you running without udev? |
| 21:28.34 | Optic | hmm, i could be |
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| 21:28.38 | Optic | i just did an upgrade |
| 21:29.37 | valdyn | Optic: mm, removing udev removes debian kernel too, so it couldnt, i guess |
| 21:30.05 | simonrvn | udevadm trigger (testing/unstable) ? |
| 21:30.31 | simonrvn | udev trigger otherwise (IIRC) |
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| 21:31.35 | Optic | udevadm is there |
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| 21:32.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | hehe... there is "commercial support" for 64studio... probably he should use that, if 64studio is what he wants... |
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| 21:34.14 | CoolCold | hello |
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| 21:34.48 | CoolCold | i'm trying to reinstall remote system from debian 32bit to debian 64bit |
| 21:35.02 | CoolCold | the main problem - i can't chroot after debootstrap :) |
| 21:35.17 | CoolCold | have any ideas what to do? |
| 21:35.36 | valdyn | CoolCold: is the kernel a 64 bit kernel already? |
| 21:35.58 | CoolCold | valdyn: no |
| 21:36.03 | CoolCold | it's 32bit now |
| 21:36.18 | CoolCold | if it'd be 64bit i guess chroot will be successfull |
| 21:36.24 | valdyn | CoolCold: so how is this 64-bit shell you are letting chroot start supposed to get 64-bit system calls? |
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| 21:36.41 | valdyn | CoolCold: yes, probably |
| 21:36.54 | simonrvn | s/full/ful/ |
| 21:36.59 | CoolCold | valdyn: it can't |
| 21:37.05 | repsol_ | Debian is easy and fast to install That is all |
| 21:37.12 | CoolCold | the only things i need to do is install ssh & kernel package.. |
| 21:37.37 | CoolCold | i can edit /etc/fstab and such from 32bit machine |
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| 21:38.06 | CoolCold | but have no idea how to install packages..if not just unpack them |
| 21:38.44 | valdyn | CoolCold: why cant you install a 64-bit kernel on the 32-bit system? |
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| 21:40.01 | valdyn | CoolCold: you can probably get qemu to run the chroot btw |
| 21:40.05 | CoolCold | valdyn: erm...i've made debootstrap into /mnt/amd64, where raid is mounted |
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| 21:41.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | simonrvn, wow, how unbelievably useful: http://www.xchat.org/changelog.txt --> - The CTRL-F keybinding (Find) is now disabled when using Emacs keys. |
| 21:41.52 | valdyn | CoolCold: the debian kernels generate an initrd upon installation, you could create that initrd from 32-bit too, just manually running mkinitramfs |
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| 21:46.43 | Optic | aha! |
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| 21:47.04 | Optic | valdyn: madwifi left /etc/modprobe.d/madwifi file with blacklist ath5k in it :) |
| 21:47.12 | Optic | even though I removed the packages |
| 21:47.25 | Optic | which explains pretty much everything |
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| 21:49.50 | hatter | is it possible that something like shorewall could be slower than hand writing iptable rules ? |
| 21:50.06 | hatter | i mean, slower packet traversal |
| 21:50.18 | teratoma_ | anything is possible |
| 21:50.28 | hatter | is it likely though ? |
| 21:50.56 | hatter | what sort of things would you add to iptables rules to make it slower if you were trying to |
| 21:51.02 | stew | hatter: certanly, though its not likely to be a big enough difference to actually matter |
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| 21:51.35 | hatter | stew, ok, thx |
| 21:51.50 | stew | hatter: when you say "if you were trying to" do you mean QoS ? |
| 21:52.29 | thnee | i want to check a harddrive for physical problems, what tools can you recommend? is fsck sufficient or is it more suitable for finding errors in the filesystem? |
| 21:52.42 | hatter | stew, no, i was just trying to work out if there was some overload of iptables rules that could slow down shorewall |
| 21:53.05 | hatter | thnee, use the vendor supplied tools |
| 21:53.31 | thnee | hatter: ah thats right, forgot about those |
| 21:53.34 | stew | thnee: have a look at smartmontools. if you want to do a low level scan, look at badblocks |
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| 21:53.38 | jelly | thnee: also, smartctl and/or controller-specific tools |
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| 21:54.07 | thnee | thanks guys |
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| 22:00.32 | trifler | dont know if this is to much to ask for but I'm trying to get dual screen to work on my laptop. (the laptop screen itself and an external monitor) and I can |
| 22:00.35 | trifler | bah |
| 22:00.51 | trifler | dont know if this is to much to ask for but I'm trying to get dual screen to work on my laptop. (the laptop screen itself and an external monitor) and I can't get it to work. this is how my xorg.conf looks like http://pastebin.com/d4f5a1c3e |
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| 22:01.44 | valdyn | trifler: and the error in your log? |
| 22:01.59 | Optic | yay, wifi works perfectly now |
| 22:02.03 | Optic | thanks for the help, valdyn |
| 22:02.15 | valdyn | trifler: did you switch both displays on on your thinkpad? |
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| 22:03.04 | trifler | valdyn: I get one warning and one error, The warning is no matchin device section for instance busid pci:0:2:1 found and the error intel(0): dri driscreeninit failed. disablin dri |
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| 22:03.28 | trifler | valdyn: Both of the displays are connected. |
| 22:03.35 | trifler | valdyn: if that's what you mean :S |
| 22:03.54 | valdyn | trifler: remove both BusID sillinesses |
| 22:04.39 | valdyn | trifler: no i dont mean that, fn-fx can switch my displays on and off on my thinkpad, by default the 2nd head is just a mirror though |
| 22:04.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | trifler, xrandr! /msg dpkg 3R also ask it about "xrandr" |
| 22:05.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | tell me if it worked, didn't really try everything out yet on my labdob :-P |
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| 22:06.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | switching resolution worked fine, though, but didn't have a 2nd monitor to test switching those at hand... |
| 22:06.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | err ... guess you can ungarble that last sentence after minor thinking :) |
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| 22:07.29 | AVRS2 | Hello. Has anyone tried using KVirc with DCC VOICE? I am running KVirc under a different user, with Xfce, and there seems to be no sound, and kvirc uses all or most of the CPU. |
| 22:07.53 | AVRS2 | (lenny/sid) |
| 22:08.05 | valdyn | AVRS2: well, i guess it uses artsd, and it does not get access as a different user |
| 22:08.36 | valdyn | AVRS2: but i wouldnt know how exactly artsd access control works, i just guess its limited to one user |
| 22:09.44 | valdyn | nevermind, its using esd? |
| 22:10.12 | valdyn | AVRS2: sound output should be configurable |
| 22:10.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | AVRS2, you wouldn't normally want every user to be able to play sounds on the machine... only the one who's logged in on :0... so that makes sense, doesn't it? |
| 22:10.51 | AVRS2 | The user is in the group audio. |
| 22:11.15 | AVRS2 | Although I am not sure why KVirc requires /dev/dsp or something like that to be specified when it depends on arts. |
| 22:11.16 | valdyn | AVRS2: the user cant use artsd, probably, or esd is not started, we dont know what your kvirc is set to use |
| 22:11.45 | AVRS2 | artsd uses whatever you tell it to, and it does make sounds for KDE at least for kcontrol. |
| 22:11.46 | valdyn | AVRS2: thats how dynamically linked libraries work, you need them even if you dont actually use the feature |
| 22:12.03 | AVRS2 | under that user |
| 22:12.04 | CoolCold | hmm |
| 22:12.12 | valdyn | AVRS2: kvirc can be configured seperatly too |
| 22:12.17 | AVRS2 | valdyn: but there is no option to use artsd? |
| 22:12.24 | trifler | valdyn: Havent actullay tried they fn keys :S. But removing the BusId gave me one more warning: More than one matching Device section found: Intel GMA 950 2 |
| 22:12.32 | valdyn | AVRS2: which options are there? |
| 22:12.34 | AVRS2 | oh |
| 22:12.46 | AVRS2 | found sound options in a different place there in kvirc |
| 22:12.49 | valdyn | trifler: ok, put the options back, switch the last 0 in one to a 1 |
| 22:12.53 | CoolCold | valdyn: does mkinitramfs does some "magic" or i can just copy generated image from somewhere? |
| 22:13.14 | valdyn | CoolCold: if the initrd matches the kernel, you can just copy |
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| 22:13.44 | stew | CoolCold: the initrd is hardware specific, so you can't necessarily create one on one machine and copy it to another |
| 22:14.15 | valdyn | uh, initramfs-tools by default just copy everything into it |
| 22:14.19 | valdyn | not very h-w specific |
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| 22:14.42 | stew | valdyn: for any possible disk controller? |
| 22:14.51 | stew | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:15.06 | valdyn | stew: think so |
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| 22:15.50 | valdyn | stew: its configurable, but by default its "most" = Add all framebuffer, acpi, filesystem, and harddrive drivers. |
| 22:15.53 | CoolCold | there were some sort of config file for update-initramfs, what drivers to include and such |
| 22:16.23 | valdyn | stew: the "dep" setting = Try and guess which modules to load. |
| 22:16.25 | stew | valdyn: ok |
| 22:16.25 | efaistos | can we read easily bluray disc under DEbian ? |
| 22:17.02 | valdyn | efaistos: i bet |
| 22:17.07 | valdyn | efaistos: but i dont know for sure |
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| 22:17.32 | simonrvn | CoolCold: /etc/initramfs-tools/* |
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| 22:17.58 | trifler | valdyn: Same error |
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| 22:19.12 | CoolCold | oki-doki |
| 22:19.13 | CoolCold | thangs god i can train on vmware first ;) |
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| 22:19.13 | trifler | No matching device section for instance (The BusID PCI:0:2:1) found |
| 22:19.13 | efaistos | valdyn: thnx anyone else ? |
| 22:19.56 | AVRS2 | KVirc is able to play UI sounds using artsd. |
| 22:20.21 | n3kl | efaistos: try it. |
| 22:20.23 | AVRS2 | But for DCC VOICE, there are those fields for /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer. |
| 22:20.28 | CoolCold | btw, can u just dump "image" from another amd64 enabled system? |
| 22:20.42 | efaistos | n3kl: dont have one ... just asking |
| 22:20.53 | CoolCold | image i mean fresh deboostrapped debian |
| 22:21.08 | AVRS2 | Also, is KVirc supposed to play what it gets from the microphone when using a DCC with itself? |
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| 22:21.12 | n3kl | efaistos: instead of asking if debian can do it, ask if linux can do it in your google searches |
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| 22:21.18 | AVRS2 | The buffers stay 0. |
| 22:21.29 | n3kl | efaistos: I have no reason for blueray, and do not use it. Someone in #linux may have more information |
| 22:21.52 | AVRS2 | hm I'll try running kvirc from a terminal |
| 22:22.11 | simonrvn | more like ##linux |
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| 22:22.22 | peleg | I have an internet address (of my email account) that I can ping from my server but can't ("Time to live exceeded") from my computer. what can cause this? |
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| 22:23.07 | n3kl | peleg: you cannot ping an email address? What are you talking about |
| 22:23.10 | simonrvn | did you screw around with the TTL values on it? if you did, don't. and unset the change(s) you made. |
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| 22:23.17 | n3kl | "time to live exceeded" could be a routing loop |
| 22:23.31 | simonrvn | that's true |
| 22:23.32 | peleg | n3kl: no, no. mail.freeall.org - the domain name of my email server |
| 22:23.52 | peleg | simonrvn: were you talking to me? never touched any TTL ... |
| 22:24.12 | peleg | n3kl: what is a "routing loop"? How can I solve this? |
| 22:24.13 | AVRS2 | (kvirc) no, nothing suspicios in the console⦠|
| 22:24.18 | simonrvn | no, i'm talking to the brick wall across from my window |
| 22:24.29 | vlt | Does anyone know a tool to apply info from a CDDB file to a set of mp3 files? |
| 22:24.39 | peleg | simonrvn: did it answer? |
| 22:24.49 | vlt | ... as ID3v2 tags |
| 22:24.51 | \amethyst | peleg: it means 64.209.110.1 is forwarding traffic to 64.209.110.2, which is forwarding traffic back to 64.209.110.1 ... ad infinitum |
| 22:24.51 | simonrvn | dead silent |
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| 22:25.06 | simonrvn | that's a routing loop, fyi |
| 22:25.12 | simonrvn | (for peleg) |
| 22:25.17 | Supaplex | !recursion |
| 22:25.17 | dpkg | ~recursion |
| 22:25.18 | apt | To understand recursion, you must first understand recursion. |
| 22:25.20 | n3kl | peleg: tracerroute it |
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| 22:25.38 | peleg | \amethyst: thanks. n3kl: right away |
| 22:25.39 | \amethyst | peleg: which sounds like a problem in gblx.net's network |
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| 22:25.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | heh |
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| 22:26.07 | simonrvn | if that's the case, contact them to fix it |
| 22:26.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | Supaplex, thought the bots couldn't invoke each other |
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| 22:26.43 | simonrvn | CutMeOwnThroat: since when? ;) |
| 22:26.43 | peleg | \amethyst: who are they? anyway, it doesn't look like a loop |
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| 22:27.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | simonrvn, since I tried that wicked delegatestrike thing I found in the factoids in #debian-bots and it didn't work |
| 22:27.15 | \amethyst | peleg: gblx.net is Global Crossing, a major backbone company |
| 22:27.36 | peleg | \amethyst: see my tracepath: http://paste.freeallweb.org/77 |
| 22:27.44 | simonrvn | CutMeOwnThroat: must've triggered a rate limit thing |
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| 22:28.00 | Supaplex | CutMeOwnThroat: I remember them replying to my tests. I was also prepared with a 'forget' remark on all the factoids I was playing with for it. |
| 22:28.02 | peleg | if they have such a problem, will they fix it to me now?? |
| 22:28.02 | \amethyst | peleg: ah, I'm getting the same result now |
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| 22:28.34 | peleg | \amethyst: a server from USA that I use gets good pings |
| 22:28.41 | \amethyst | peleg: previously it had reported, after that, those two IP addresses over and over |
| 22:28.49 | \amethyst | peleg: I can ping it now |
| 22:29.01 | jhamlin | all of the calendar programs I've tried truncate event titles when viewing in monthview. I want to see the entire event title in monthview: the title should be word-wrapped instead of just cutting it off. Is there any such calendar program? |
| 22:29.07 | peleg | oh, I can either. oof. |
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| 22:29.21 | peleg | shall I blame something international? |
| 22:29.22 | \amethyst | peleg: looks like they fixed it :) |
| 22:29.27 | peleg | :-) |
| 22:29.31 | \amethyst | peleg: I had problems in the US |
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| 22:29.57 | peleg | thanks you all |
| 22:30.00 | simonrvn | do't bother emailing them then ;) |
| 22:30.04 | simonrvn | don't* |
| 22:30.07 | peleg | won't |
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| 22:31.50 | rhalff | hm I just did: cp -r /usr /srv/usr; mv /usr /usr.bak; ln -s /srv/usr /usr; but now I get permission denied errors on everything in /usr/bin; although it seems everything is executable by any user. even root will get permission denied., actually: -su : /usr/bin/mc: Permission Denied, etc.. |
| 22:31.54 | rhalff | any suggestions ? |
| 22:32.31 | Supaplex | rhalff: ls -l /usr/bin/mc |
| 22:32.32 | \amethyst | rhalff: you should have used cp -a at least |
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| 22:32.44 | Supaplex | rsync -avP ftw ;) |
| 22:33.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | jhamlin, there's a web-based calendar called cst-calender, that does that... but it's not in debian repositories afaik |
| 22:33.01 | rhalff | \amethyst, jikes, offcourse I alread did rm -rf /usr.bak |
| 22:33.10 | n3kl | Supaplex: the v is not needed |
| 22:33.15 | hatter | why is a DNAT rule not considered by /etc/hosts.allow ? |
| 22:33.25 | Supaplex | n3kl: technically only -a is needed |
| 22:33.25 | n3kl | hatter: why would it be |
| 22:33.32 | n3kl | Supaplex: I like P |
| 22:33.34 | n3kl | =] |
| 22:33.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | rhalff, smart :) |
| 22:33.46 | Supaplex | n3kl: pee is gross. rsync is better. ;) heh heh |
| 22:33.49 | \amethyst | rhalff: ah, hm |
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| 22:33.53 | rhalff | Supaplex, -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 796008 2007-12-15 00:07 /usr/bin/mc |
| 22:33.57 | \amethyst | rhalff: is /srv mounted noexec by any chance? |
| 22:33.57 | n3kl | ha |
| 22:34.02 | glax | Hi guys, any tools to convert a .flv to a .avi? |
| 22:34.06 | rhalff | \amethyst, uhm |
| 22:34.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | rhalff, look in output of mount, if the partition is mounted noexec |
| 22:34.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | \amethyst, bah, you were faster |
| 22:34.38 | rhalff | \amethyst, great everything I try is permission denied, but I think it probably is |
| 22:34.55 | rhalff | lol, how can xchat still work |
| 22:34.59 | \amethyst | rhalff: mount is in /bin so you can fix that |
| 22:35.08 | \amethyst | rhalff: because it was already running---it's already loaded into memory |
| 22:35.21 | rhalff | you are right mount works |
| 22:35.27 | \amethyst | rhalff: mount /srv -o remount,exec |
| 22:35.28 | Supaplex | $ soup |
| 22:35.28 | Supaplex | bash: no soup for you |
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| 22:35.39 | \amethyst | rhalff: or /srv/usr or whatever the mountpoint was |
| 22:35.55 | rhalff | \amethyst, cool, I'm back :D |
| 22:36.04 | Supaplex | rhalff: grep noexec /proc/mounts |
| 22:36.06 | rhalff | thanks |
| 22:36.08 | \amethyst | rhalff: now edit your fstab so it doesn't happen again |
| 22:36.16 | \amethyst | :) |
| 22:36.29 | Supaplex | !lart rhalff:/etc/fstab |
| 22:36.29 | dpkg | DoSes rhalff:/etc/fstab |
| 22:36.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | jhamlin, there's a similar calendar called "webcalendar" in debian repositories, which seems to also not truncate titles |
| 22:37.12 | rhalff | Supaplex, this was the /srv line btw: /dev/sdb3 /srv reiserfs rw,user,nosuid,nodev 0 0 nothing about noexec there |
| 22:37.15 | \amethyst | rhalff: now you see, btw, why essential utilities are in /bin instead of /usr/bin |
| 22:37.20 | \amethyst | rhalff: user implies noexec |
| 22:37.21 | hatter | CutMeOwnThroat, i think webcalendar was in sarge |
| 22:37.26 | hatter | but not etch |
| 22:37.30 | \amethyst | rhalff: remove 'user' and 'nosuid' |
| 22:37.33 | rhalff | \amethyst, ok thanks |
| 22:37.39 | \amethyst | rhalff: you don't need 'user' since it's automounted |
| 22:37.44 | Supaplex | since when does user imply no exec? |
| 22:38.07 | rhalff | \amethyst, so just rw, nodev ? |
| 22:38.11 | Supaplex | thinks he will test it some other day |
| 22:38.16 | \amethyst | Supaplex: it says so in the manpage, but I don't know when it started |
| 22:38.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | hatter, I still get it from apt-cache... but you're right - only one Version: 1.0.5-15lenny1 - so it was gone in etch and is back in lenny |
| 22:38.29 | \amethyst | rhalff: yes, assuming you want this to be mounted on boot |
| 22:38.40 | rhalff | \amethyst, yep |
| 22:38.45 | hatter | CutMeOwnThroat, ah |
| 22:38.58 | hatter | how is lenny moving along ? |
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| 22:39.11 | abrotman | !wwlr |
| 22:39.11 | dpkg | Lenny (5.0) will release WIR, SIYH and RSN. Hopefully before the end of mid 2009, but in any case, not until there are no more release critical bugs. Ask me about <wir> <siyh> <rsn> <lenny status>. Also see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2008/07/msg00005.html or lenny will not release until there are no more release critical bugs: http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical and see "Number concerning the next release:" |
| 22:39.19 | Supaplex | humm that's lame. any user with write access to their own directory could execute it etc. I thought user states any user can mount that mount point. |
| 22:39.21 | abrotman | end of mid 2009 .. hehe |
| 22:39.22 | hatter | abrotman, yes yes i know. |
| 22:39.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | with the speed of a snail on cocaine.... |
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| 22:39.54 | Supaplex | hatter: ready by Christmas or your money back! |
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| 22:40.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | (now try and put a snail in your garden on cocaine to see how fast that is) |
| 22:40.08 | hatter | Supaplex, cheap at half the price ! |
| 22:40.09 | Gigantic | so... what is the porpose of life? |
| 22:40.18 | Gigantic | *u |
| 22:40.19 | subtotal | tuna |
| 22:40.20 | \amethyst | Supaplex: I can see definitely see nosuid and nodev |
| 22:40.23 | Supaplex | Gigantic: you're in the wrong channel :) |
| 22:40.25 | subtotal | oh |
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| 22:41.35 | psilo2 | I want to install package 'apache2-mpm-worker'; it seems apt wants to REMOVE several seemingly unrelated packages in order to do so, which I am denying of course |
| 22:41.46 | psilo2 | I've seen this behavior before too, can someone explain it? |
| 22:42.05 | \amethyst | psilo2: what does it want to remove? maybe you have something which depends on -mpm-prefork ? |
| 22:42.27 | \amethyst | psilo2: aptitude why-not <somepackageitwantstoremove> |
| 22:42.31 | psilo2 | \amethyst: apache2-mpm-prefork build-essential cacti g++ and many others |
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| 22:42.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | thinks it's because aptitude is sometimes just weird |
| 22:43.04 | acidslep | heh |
| 22:43.10 | \amethyst | psilo2: apache2-mpm-prefork and -mpm-worker conflict.... as for the others, maybe it thinks they were installed automatically |
| 22:43.15 | Supaplex | \amethyst: ahh. I see it now. "implies the options" ... just when you think you know the basics. :p |
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| 22:43.23 | psilo2 | I'm using 'apt-get install' rather than aptitude |
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| 22:43.53 | \amethyst | psilo2: oh, then it's probably not automatically-installed stuff... |
| 22:43.56 | Supaplex | see --without-reccomends or something |
| 22:44.08 | psilo2 | \amethyst: could I remove prefork first, then install worker? |
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| 22:44.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | psilo2, apt-get now also tags the packages as not installed automatically, perhaps your apt-get was/is too old and so there are (still) a lot of packages aptitude thinks were installed automatically |
| 22:44.46 | \amethyst | psilo2: if you do that, you will be temporarily without apache, so it will want to remove more packages |
| 22:45.06 | \amethyst | psilo2: try apt-get install apache2-mpm-worker build-essential cacti |
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| 22:47.03 | psilo2 | http://pastebin.com/m59bc10b7 |
| 22:47.51 | psilo2 | I don't think any of these were installed automatically ebcause of dependencies; I seem to recall doing several of them myself |
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| 22:48.24 | \amethyst | psilo2: is this stable or testing? |
| 22:48.41 | psilo2 | testing |
| 22:49.18 | \amethyst | psilo2: try adding gcc-4-1-base and gcc-4.1 to the list of packages to be installed |
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| 22:49.45 | \amethyst | psilo2: err, gcc-4.1-base and gcc-4.1 |
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| 22:49.52 | Nai | what is package name for java plugin for firefox? cant find with apt |
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| 22:50.13 | \amethyst | Nai: testing or stable? |
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| 22:50.29 | Nai | \amethyst, stable i guess, netinst |
| 22:50.39 | \amethyst | Nai: sun-java5-plugin, in non-free |
| 22:50.48 | \amethyst | there's also sun-java6-plugin in backports |
| 22:51.04 | psilo2 | \amethyst: changing to stable has drastically reduced what it wants to uninstall. now it only wants to remove prefork and mod_php5. This seems like a better path, right? |
| 22:51.04 | Nai | do i need to add a source to sources.list for this? |
| 22:51.13 | \amethyst | !non-free |
| 22:51.13 | dpkg | non-free is probably a component which contains software that does not comply with the <DFSG>. To add non-free packages to your packages index, ask me about <non-free sources>. To see which non-free packages are installed on your system, ask me about <vrms>. For the Non-free tracking system, see http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/ |
| 22:51.15 | psilo2 | \amethyst: I'm thinking I'll just let it happen and reinstall php, heh |
| 22:51.23 | \amethyst | psilo2: oh |
| 22:51.29 | \amethyst | psilo2: that's the problem |
| 22:52.00 | \amethyst | psilo2: Debian's libapache2-mod-php5 package does not work with mpm-worker |
| 22:52.11 | \amethyst | psilo2: it explicitly depends on mpm-prefork or mpm-itk |
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| 22:52.39 | psilo2 | oh.. that's too bad. so then I'd have to run php as fcgi or something huh? |
| 22:52.54 | psilo2 | (If I want to use mpm-worker) |
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| 22:53.03 | \amethyst | psilo2: yes... the issue, AIUI, is that PHP, or at least a number of PHP modules, are not thread-safe |
| 22:53.32 | \amethyst | psilo2: yes, but if your site is mostly PHP, that would lose all the efficiency you would gain from using worker instead of prefork |
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| 22:54.27 | AVRS2 | good night |
| 22:54.36 | psilo2 | very helpful, thanks. It's not critical that I use worker; I'm just trying to fix a problem I'm having with prefork by abandoning prefork |
| 22:54.55 | psilo2 | Guess I'll stick with prefork a bit longer. |
| 22:55.09 | cafuego | nuffin wrong with prefork |
| 22:55.15 | Nai | \amethyst, is this the modificaiton i should be doing? or will this break things. http://sial.org/pbot/33139 |
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| 22:57.53 | subtotal | is there a cobol compiler in debian's repo? |
| 22:58.19 | dondelelcaro | subtotal: open-cobol |
| 22:58.59 | subtotal | aptitude can't find it. |
| 22:59.09 | subtotal | I guess I don't have the right repos set up. |
| 22:59.17 | streuner_ | !tell sutotal about search |
| 22:59.48 | subtotal | athena:~# aptitude search cobol |
| 22:59.48 | subtotal | athena:~# apt-cache search cobol |
| 22:59.48 | subtotal | exuberant-ctags - build tag file indexes of source code definitions |
| 22:59.49 | subtotal | robodoc - A source code documentation tool |
| 22:59.49 | subtotal | sloccount - Programs for counting physical source lines of code (SLOC) |
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| 23:00.05 | streuner_ | hm, an iditot... |
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| 23:00.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | streuner_, hehe, the nick you just let dpkg tell things was less than the total nick :) |
| 23:00.27 | dondelelcaro | subtotal: it's only in lenny and unstable; you can probably backport it, though |
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| 23:00.35 | subtotal | aight thanks man |
| 23:00.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | !tell subtotal -about paste |
| 23:00.51 | lindenle | is there a linux alternative for flash |
| 23:00.56 | dondelelcaro | lindenle: gnash |
| 23:01.09 | streuner_ | which doesnt work good... |
| 23:01.16 | streuner_ | gnash sucks |
| 23:01.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | a "linux alternative"? linux is a kernel... |
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| 23:01.23 | dondelelcaro | it actually works fairly reasonably |
| 23:01.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | there is flash under linux |
| 23:01.31 | streuner_ | dondelelcaro: bah |
| 23:01.42 | dondelelcaro | (and they're always making it better) |
| 23:01.43 | lindenle | dondelelcaro: can you create with it? gui? |
| 23:01.44 | SerajewelKS | CutMeOwnThroat: and gnash runs on the linux kernel |
| 23:02.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | streuner_, perhaps dondelelcaro is just a man of high ideals and low expectations :) |
| 23:02.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | SerajewelKS, so does flash |
| 23:02.16 | Nai | I need to add non-free to sources.list , does this look ok? http://sial.org/pbot/33139 |
| 23:02.24 | SerajewelKS | CutMeOwnThroat: would you prefer gnu/linux or "software that runs in linux userspace" or what? |
| 23:02.30 | dondelelcaro | lindenle: you can, but it doesn't have the gui flash creation routines |
| 23:02.55 | streuner_ | CutMeOwnThroat: dondelelcaro is right, but not everything works... |
| 23:03.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | SerajewelKS, it is just not clear what he wants... if he'd said "a GPL alternative", it would have been clear - like this, perhaps he just doesn't know that there is flash for linux |
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| 23:04.09 | SerajewelKS | CutMeOwnThroat: i think "alternative" disambiguated that :) |
| 23:04.19 | lindenle | dondelelcaro: is there any gui for linux? |
| 23:04.33 | SerajewelKS | lindenle: do you mean a flash IDE? |
| 23:04.40 | lindenle | yes |
| 23:05.11 | SerajewelKS | lindenle: this is the only one i know of: http://www.flashdevelop.org/community/ |
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| 23:07.13 | streuner_ | dondelelcaro: well, nothing works with gnash on modern flash stuff, its a pity, but it is so... |
| 23:07.20 | solara | I tried to install a kernel i compiled into a deb, but got the following error, any ideas? (I asked in #ubuntu and they had no idea) http://pastebin.com/m5f175681 |
| 23:07.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | SerajewelKS, maybe.... also consider that many people are not native speakers - so they might struggle to express themselves... say it like this: I found it to be/understood it as ambiguous |
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| 23:08.48 | SerajewelKS | CutMeOwnThroat: understood, you were being pedantic so i was being pedantic too :) |
| 23:09.08 | m0nt0 | i've just installed debian on my "server", i'd like to connect it with wifi but until i plug the cable in, the wifi interface doesn't work, when i unplug the cable eth0 doesn't work (normal without a cable) but also wlan0 stop to work, why? |
| 23:09.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | SerajewelKS, well, take the next question - "is there any gui for linux?" .... makes my point, really :) |
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| 23:10.25 | SerajewelKS | CutMeOwnThroat: sure, but asking a clarifying question ("did you mean...") is better than getting out the cluebat from the get-go |
| 23:10.42 | SerajewelKS | anyway, dinner time |
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| 23:10.48 | streuner_ | hm |
| 23:10.57 | c2b | is there a command line i can use to only delete a folder if its over 1 day old ? |
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| 23:11.15 | enouf | lindenle: i don't know what exactly this is, but i had it bookmarked http://www.bobbyvandersluis.com/ufo/index.html |
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| 23:11.20 | Nai | i do not see sun-java5-plugin in non-free ! need java working |
| 23:11.33 | enouf | c2b: find |
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| 23:12.08 | enouf | c2b: something like -mtime -1 http://wooledge.org:8000/UsingFind |
| 23:12.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | SerajewelKS, well, agreed... I was trying to do that, if you check your lastlog :) |
| 23:12.33 | streuner_ | !enouf++ |
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| 23:12.52 | enouf | waves ;-) |
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| 23:14.14 | Nai | need help accessing non-free properly, i added non-free to sources.list at the end of a line, this is not working?? http://sial.org/pbot/33140 |
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| 23:14.36 | streuner_ | use paste.debian.net pleae |
| 23:14.42 | streuner_ | please* |
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| 23:15.06 | tux | yo Frygg |
| 23:15.07 | stew | Nai: you only added non-free to the security.debian.org line, not your main mirror |
| 23:15.09 | Frygg | yo |
| 23:15.21 | streuner_ | Whats so hard to use non-free? |
| 23:15.21 | Nai | wtf doe sit matter, here http://paste.debian.net/21188/ |
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| 23:15.27 | streuner_ | !non-free |
| 23:15.27 | dpkg | non-free is probably a component which contains software that does not comply with the <DFSG>. To add non-free packages to your packages index, ask me about <non-free sources>. To see which non-free packages are installed on your system, ask me about <vrms>. For the Non-free tracking system, see http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/ |
| 23:15.31 | Mark17 | hello, how can i see what the full name is off a virtual network card? |
| 23:15.33 | Nai | stew, ok ty |
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| 23:15.35 | enouf | streuner_: sial.org is ok by me? what don't you like about it? |
| 23:15.44 | Ford-Prefect | all quiet in samba... someone here who want to help me troubbleshoot? |
| 23:15.50 | tux | i've a pb guys, my mouse is disabled and the only way to reactivate it is to restart the computer, has anyone an idea? |
| 23:15.52 | Mark17 | i only see the first part if i use ifconfig (eth0:201:) |
| 23:16.03 | Mark17 | but after that last : there should be something more |
| 23:16.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | tux, check your logs for errors... |
| 23:16.42 | enouf | streuner_: the only one i really dislike is pastebin.com because you can't view it in text mode .. (there's no option to) |
| 23:16.47 | Ford-Prefect | p/m me if you feel like digging in and doing some samba helping ;) |
| 23:16.47 | tux | where r they? |
| 23:16.55 | streuner_ | enouf: sial.org isnt officiall, and that sucks then... |
| 23:17.05 | enouf | haha .. ok |
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| 23:17.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | tux, your mouse failed after 1st working ok, right? |
| 23:17.34 | enouf | tux: pb == lead? |
| 23:17.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | tux, then probably /var/log/messages and the output of "dmesg" |
| 23:17.38 | tux | it's actually Frygg's pb |
| 23:17.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | enouf, correct... |
| 23:17.49 | tux | i just translate because he can't speak english^^ |
| 23:17.56 | enouf | i've a lead? |
| 23:18.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | !prize enouf |
| 23:18.04 | dpkg | gives enouf a yogi pin. |
| 23:18.20 | streuner_ | haha |
| 23:18.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | tux, /var/log/Xorg.0.log if it never runs in X |
| 23:18.32 | tux | what's the stupid joke? i don't get it sry |
| 23:18.45 | enouf | tux: how is the mouse connected? |
| 23:18.53 | Frygg | USB |
| 23:19.04 | tux | Frygg: va voir dans /var/log/Xorg.0.log ils disent ça les plots |
| 23:19.07 | enouf | tux: and Frygg and why is it disabled? |
| 23:19.14 | enouf | how did it get that way? |
| 23:19.15 | abrotman | tux: english here |
| 23:19.20 | Frygg | i don't know |
| 23:19.28 | tux | if we knew we wouldn't ask !! |
| 23:19.29 | Frygg | k 2s tux |
| 23:19.33 | tux | il est con comme un balai lui |
| 23:19.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | tux, you might "/msg dpkg u" to get the general idea :) |
| 23:19.40 | abrotman | tux: *english* |
| 23:19.48 | tux | CutMeOwnThroat: i don't give a fuck about this pb, it's not mine ^^ |
| 23:20.09 | enouf | Frygg: do all usb devices stop working? tried other ports? |
| 23:20.31 | tux | omg |
| 23:20.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | hehe, see enouf it's not his lead but yours :) |
| 23:20.35 | tux | you understand nothing guy |
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| 23:21.00 | tux | Frygg has pb with his computer/mouse, i'm just here to translate |
| 23:21.14 | abrotman | there is a french channel |
| 23:21.23 | tux | yeah, dead channel |
| 23:21.27 | tux | freenode style |
| 23:21.39 | enouf | tux: are you sure he's even using debian? |
| 23:21.50 | Frygg | enouf > i use Debian SID |
| 23:22.07 | enouf | ok |
| 23:22.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | this is kinda confusing :) |
| 23:22.20 | enouf | quite |
| 23:22.39 | tux | u r american right? it would explain many things ;) |
| 23:22.41 | enouf | Frygg: laptop? |
| 23:22.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | perhaps I should drink some wine from a cup made of lead... heard that's good for the brain |
| 23:23.01 | enouf | CutMeOwnThroat: then you'd really have a pb |
| 23:23.05 | enouf | :-p |
| 23:23.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | indeed |
| 23:23.24 | Frygg | enouf > no |
| 23:23.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | "mad as a hatter" refers to Hg, though :-P (and yes, I'm stopping right now with this) |
| 23:23.51 | streuner_ | throw his cigarette into one glasses and hopes that its in 20 years it is about 200 C. .... |
| 23:23.52 | abrotman | !fr |
| 23:23.52 | dpkg | Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr sur irc.oftc.net. French users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on irc.oftc.net. |
| 23:23.56 | abrotman | on OFTC .. not freenode |
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| 23:24.33 | enouf | Frygg: so tux ; ask about the other usb ports, and other possible usb devices |
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| 23:24.59 | streuner_ | abrotman: i actually get my stuff into my room ;-) |
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| 23:27.53 | ma3x | why the hell iceweasel doesn't wanna load java plugin? |
| 23:27.58 | ma3x | i've installed the package aleady |
| 23:28.11 | ma3x | and when i launch iceweasel iget this error in the background when i go to about:plugins |
| 23:28.22 | ma3x | /home/lib/i386/libjavaplugin_nscp.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory/home/lib/i386/libjavaplugin_nscp.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory/home/lib/i386/libjavaplugin_nscp.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 23:28.47 | tux | enouf: all ports have been tested, none of them work |
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| 23:29.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | ma3x, /home/lib? what's that supposed to be |
| 23:29.05 | Frygg | ma3x -> /home/you/.mozzila/plugin |
| 23:29.11 | enouf | sounds like a wrong dir/ ? or your $JAVA_HOME is not set? or the plugin belongs elsewhere? |
| 23:29.22 | ma3x | yeah, that's what i'm asking you |
| 23:29.25 | ma3x | i didn't set that dir |
| 23:29.30 | ma3x | i dunno what's wrong |
| 23:29.33 | ma3x | how do i find out |
| 23:29.49 | enouf | tux: ok, they all do work after a bootup, then somehow they all die? how long till they die? |
| 23:30.44 | enouf | ma3x: i never used java, i just know plugin issues with firepoop/mozilla/iceweasel are usually some symlink is needed, like from /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins or something |
| 23:31.09 | ma3x | enouf: it looks for /home/lib |
| 23:31.11 | ma3x | that's insane |
| 23:31.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | ma3x, for me, ./firefox/<yourstring>/pluginreg.dat has the lines line |
| 23:31.25 | enouf | into your ~/.mozilla/... /plugins |
| 23:31.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.07/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so:$ |
| 23:31.59 | n3kl | what package is needed for /usr/lib/moziilla/ |
| 23:32.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, not sure I understand the syntax of this file, though |
| 23:32.01 | n3kl | ? |
| 23:32.02 | ma3x | enouf: i already place the plugin there |
| 23:32.19 | enouf | ma3x: others seem to know more about it ... |
| 23:32.24 | tux | enouf: das kommt drauf an, manchmal 20min manchmal 2stunden |
| 23:32.27 | tux | omg sorry |
| 23:32.44 | tux | enouf: it depends, sometimes 20min sometimes 2hours |
| 23:32.48 | enouf | n3kl: any mozilla-centric plugin pkg? |
| 23:32.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | tux, ehe... having your multilingual day? :) |
| 23:32.58 | n3kl | enouf: hrmm |
| 23:33.06 | tux | lol |
| 23:33.07 | tux | sry |
| 23:33.07 | n3kl | enouf: do you know what the path for the plugins in teh home dir? |
| 23:33.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | tux, can you do spanish and chinese as well? |
| 23:33.16 | tux | a little |
| 23:33.19 | tux | spanish |
| 23:33.21 | tux | italian |
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| 23:33.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | !prize tux |
| 23:33.27 | dpkg | gives tux a beer. |
| 23:33.28 | tux | some words in arabic |
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| 23:33.40 | tux | but i study languages |
| 23:33.41 | tux | in germany |
| 23:34.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | in goettingen :) |
| 23:34.01 | enouf | n3kl: it's obvious, whatever is is |
| 23:34.03 | tux | yep |
| 23:34.04 | enouf | whatever it is |
| 23:34.07 | ma3x | enouf: no mozilla cnetric |
| 23:34.14 | n3kl | hmm |
| 23:34.23 | enouf | is getting very confused |
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| 23:35.16 | enouf | tux: that surely is odd - tell them to check various logs in /var/log/ - dmesg | tail even |
| 23:35.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | ma3x, pluginreg.dat is the only file that has any "libjava" containing string inside - this is ff3, though |
| 23:35.45 | enouf | tux: is there an external HDD also attached through USB? all the time this happens? |
| 23:36.18 | enouf | i recall a pluginreg.dat in earlier versions as well |
| 23:36.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | enouf, haha... that's what I suggested ... well, when the initial question was asked :) |
| 23:36.26 | ma3x | CutMeOwnThroat: it contains nothing |
| 23:36.28 | ma3x | onloy Version:0.09:$ |
| 23:36.34 | ma3x | [PLUGINS] |
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| 23:36.37 | ma3x | then nothing else |
| 23:36.40 | enouf | i think one is supposed to update it - maybe even rm it .. i forget |
| 23:37.01 | enouf | CutMeOwnThroat: about the HDD? |
| 23:37.16 | tux | enouf: no other usb port is used, only one for the mouse |
| 23:37.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | ma3x, contains a helluva lot of things for me... but I'm not sure how relevant it is compared to the system... |
| 23:38.08 | enouf | tux: well, until he figures out why this is happening, maybe he can use something like i use - a usb->ps/2 adapter .. must be under 5 dollars |
| 23:38.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | ma3x, try this: close iceweasel, in $HOME do mv .mozilla .mozille.OLD, restart - see if it works with fresh usersettings |
| 23:38.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | enouf, er... no - I thought we're talking about a mouse... "/me is confused" |
| 23:38.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | !confuse me |
| 23:38.49 | dpkg | No, those was their ferret tomorrow, cutmeownthroat? wellies of the monarchy of tibet with extra cream |
| 23:38.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | thx |
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| 23:39.45 | enouf | tux: ensure lsmod shows (one or all of) ehci_hcd, ohci_hcd, uhci_hcd (various usb host controller modules), ..hrm... |
| 23:40.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | enouf, I love it when you're being specific like that :) |
| 23:40.32 | enouf | CutMeOwnThroat: we are/were ... my bad, i thought you said "asked" as opposed to "suggested" |
| 23:40.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | !confuse enouf |
| 23:40.47 | dpkg | Yes, what is our pineapple today, enouf? wellies of the democracy of swaziland with extra cheese |
| 23:40.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | be my guest :) |
| 23:41.08 | enouf | nom nom nom |
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| 23:42.37 | Frygg | enouf > usbcore       118160 4 usbhid,ohci_hcd,ehci_hcd |
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| 23:43.51 | enouf | Frygg: that seems fine |
| 23:43.53 | tim | hey all, can anyone tell me if there's any way i can pass an opyion to make-kpkg to use a specific instance of GCC? export CC=/path/to/gcc doesn't seem to be doing the trick |
| 23:43.56 | tim | cheers |
| 23:44.28 | cafuego | tim: Set the compiler in the kernel Makefile |
| 23:44.36 | tim | aah gotcha |
| 23:44.37 | tim | thanks |
| 23:44.39 | tim | :-) |
| 23:44.44 | cafuego | tim: is there any reason you want to build the kernel eith a non-default compiler? |
| 23:44.46 | enouf | Frygg: tux using a debian kernel? which one? |
| 23:44.48 | tim | yeah |
| 23:45.04 | cafuego | coz that *usually* brings pain |
| 23:45.10 | cafuego | doesn't it, redhat |
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| 23:45.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | cafuego, sometimes it doesn't pick the one that matches the kernel if you just compile a module... |
| 23:45.25 | tim | i need to compile a module against the custom kernel that's installed on a xen vps |
| 23:45.34 | cafuego | Ok, fair nuff |
| 23:45.36 | tim | yeah, exartly, CutMEOwnThroat |
| 23:45.47 | enouf | tim: you could alter the symlink of /usr/bin/gcc to point to the version you want |
| 23:45.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | doesn't need to remind anyone that he's a psychic |
| 23:46.14 | tim | @enouf - hmm, yeah that might be simplest, i havae a bad feeling about that though |
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| 23:46.29 | beardy | Gah.. stop with that @:ing.. |
| 23:46.34 | tim | i guess it's fine if i switch back after |
| 23:46.37 | tim | hah, sorry |
| 23:46.38 | tux`AFK | i'm back in 5min |
| 23:46.48 | tim | but it sems like a nasty hack |
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| 23:47.21 | cafuego | i *know* i'm a nasty hack, but you don't need to be mean about it :-( |
| 23:47.25 | enouf | any other way, is in essence try to achieve the same thing |
| 23:47.30 | enouf | trying* |
| 23:47.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | tim, I always thought prompt$> CC=some/thing make would also work.... but if export CC doesn't, I was probably wrong :) |
| 23:48.07 | simonrvn | cafuego: hello, how's it going? we always knew that, but were too polite to say :P. |
| 23:48.08 | tim | yeah it should |
| 23:48.11 | stew | tim: try also setting the HOSTCC variable. you should not change the symlink |
| 23:48.12 | cafuego | CutMeOwnThroat: Usually yes, but not for the kernel. |
| 23:48.21 | tim | aha! |
| 23:48.28 | tim | will HOSTCC do the trick then? |
| 23:48.29 | enouf | cafuego: btw, nice to see ya - recently sent another to your site, for the udev rules stuff/example usage |
| 23:48.43 | cafuego | simonrvn: It's going awful. |
| 23:48.47 | Frygg | enouf > 2.6.26-1-686 |
| 23:48.48 | enouf | tim: CC and HOSTCC |
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| 23:48.51 | cafuego | simonrvn: Hangover ;-( |
| 23:48.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | pft |
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| 23:49.04 | simonrvn | oh, well, that's your own fault ;) |
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| 23:49.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | there's worse things than a hangover... just hope you'll never find out what they are |
| 23:49.24 | simonrvn | drink lots of water, and consider taking a multi-vitamin |
| 23:49.32 | enouf | Frygg: ok ... hrm |
| 23:49.46 | gavi | how can i set the ns1.myDomain.com and ns2.myDomain.com on my debian system.. bind is installed |
| 23:49.57 | simonrvn | (or better, a high mineral content fruit) |
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| 23:49.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | gavi, "set"? |
| 23:50.01 | cafuego | CutMeOwnThroat: it's ok. |
| 23:50.16 | cafuego | CutMeOwnThroat: I'm not in fact 12 years old, and i *do* know. |
| 23:50.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | simonrvn, no medical advice on #debian!!!!!111111111234, he might sue us |
| 23:50.31 | simonrvn | 5678910 |
| 23:50.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | eleven twelve thirteen |
| 23:50.46 | gavi | CutMeOwnThroat, or whatever youd like to call it? |
| 23:50.48 | simonrvn | i'm no doctor, i don't care |
| 23:50.49 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 23:51.01 | cafuego | will stick with his coffee and baked beans for now |
| 23:51.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | gavi, I'm asking you to specify what you mean, I don't understand it |
| 23:51.12 | chomwitt | hi. i have lenny. i add experimental but when i update from synaptic i cant fint OpenOffice3 althought it there. |
| 23:51.13 | cafuego | a swim this arvo shoudl clear my head |
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| 23:51.20 | simonrvn | that works, but the water i insist on |
| 23:51.23 | gavi | CutMeOwnThroat, when i installed debian it asked me for a hostname |
| 23:51.31 | cafuego | simonrvn: less yellow? |
| 23:51.33 | enouf | Frygg: apologies, but i can't think of anything specific offhand ... i can guess wildly, but that won't help you much, plus i'd have to ask you a ton more questions .. so, maybe someone else can help? Try mailing list archives? (and dare i say, google) |
| 23:51.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | cafuego, no worries mate, she'll be right |
| 23:51.55 | gavi | what is this hostname that i gave to my system and how can i change it |
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| 23:52.09 | stew | gavi: /msg dpkg hostname |
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| 23:52.18 | medc | anyone can help on how to install Radeon HD 2600 |
| 23:52.19 | medc | ? |
| 23:52.27 | cafuego | is unconvinced |
| 23:52.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | gavi, /etc/hostname , also /etc/hosts - but the FQN (fully qualified domainname) cannot be set on the system, it's handled by DNS servers which translate between name and IP |
| 23:53.00 | tim | sorry guys, can i check i've got this right - edited HOSTCC and CC in /usr/src/linux/Makefile to point to /usr/locall/bin/gcc-4.0 |
| 23:53.07 | simonrvn | cafuego: yeh, that, and the water soluble vitamins and minerals, plus water get depleted quickly (faster than normal) when binge drinking . hangover is a sign of depletion. |
| 23:53.26 | cafuego | simonrvn: I stopped binge drinking after 30 ;-) |
| 23:53.28 | Malf | I have my system partitioned such that / is under one partition and /home is under a separate partition on the same disk. I'm starting to think I'd like to get a little more free space on the first partition soon. Are there any initial steps I can take just to clean things up in the main partition? Secondly whats my best bet for expansion? |
| 23:53.34 | medc | anyone can help on how to install Radeon HD 2600 |
| 23:53.37 | gavi | CutMeOwnThroat, bind would be good for the job. right? |
| 23:53.48 | simonrvn | also smoking, tends to deplete vitamins c, e, so gotta take extra of those |
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| 23:54.06 | simonrvn | they react with the nicotine |
| 23:54.07 | enouf | Frygg: i mean, what exactly happens? the cursor/pointer becomes frozen? Is it possibly a Desktop Env issue? See, this is why you want to test other devices using the same port, and also other ports - to see if the issue is truly a usb port issue, or something else, like bad software, or malicious even |
| 23:54.07 | baggend | I'm trying to set up a "virtual" bridge |
| 23:54.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | stew, hm, that factoid actually tells you you could set the FQN in /etc/hosts, which is... ahem, kind of correct, but probably not in the way people would understand it |
| 23:54.19 | baggend | whoops |
| 23:54.25 | tim | should i be doing the same iin /usr/linux/modues/openafs (ie the module i'm trying to build)? |
| 23:54.26 | stew | CutMeOwnThroat: please enhance the factoid |
| 23:54.28 | simonrvn | cafuego: sure, but you get the point ;) |
| 23:54.34 | simonrvn | </ot> |
| 23:54.38 | cafuego | blames the cider |
| 23:54.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | gavi, then you know more about it than I do :) |
| 23:54.58 | baggend | I'm trying to set up a "virtual" bridge for internal communication between interfaces (using brctl) in addition to the working bridge I have in place for access to the physical interface. |
| 23:55.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | gavi, "man bind" |
| 23:55.21 | baggend | While I've created the bridge and added virtual interfaces to it, I can't seem to get them to communicate amongst themselves. |
| 23:55.28 | gavi | i dont know.. i am asking |
| 23:55.29 | stew | gavi: what exactly are you trying to do? just change the hostname? setup bind to be a nameserver for a particular domain? |
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| 23:55.37 | xfce | waves hi to eric_1552891 |
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| 23:55.47 | kingsley | Does debian have an official live CD yet? if so, is it also installable? |
| 23:56.06 | Frygg | enouf > cursor frozen |
| 23:56.28 | stew | kingsley: http://debian-live.alioth.debian.org/ |
| 23:56.51 | enouf | Frygg: the keyboard always works fine? and is that also USB connected? |
| 23:57.03 | FenrirReturns | Whats the proper way to install the nonfree flash? Are the wiki directions for combining stable and backports still correct? |
| 23:57.14 | stew | FenrirReturns: which version of debian are you running? |
| 23:57.19 | gavi | stew, yes... i want to set up 2 name servers for many domains not just one |
| 23:57.33 | gavi | i was hoping vhcs could do this for me though |
| 23:57.42 | stew | gavi: then yes, bind9 is a way to do this |
| 23:58.06 | gavi | stew, would u by any chance know if vhcs can do this without touching the bind config files? |
| 23:58.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | stew, ok... want to check if that can be understood? |
| 23:58.24 | tim | bloody hell, i think it worked! |
| 23:58.29 | tim | crossed fingers |
| 23:58.31 | gavi | ive been searching the web and vhcs's docs... cant seem to find anything |
| 23:58.36 | tim | thanks all! |
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| 23:58.43 | Frygg | keyboard is ok, and not usb |
| 23:58.45 | stew | gavi: i don't know about vhcs |
| 23:58.50 | medc | anyone can help on how to install Radeon HD 2600 |
| 23:58.56 | lwizardl | hi has anyone here configured a Linux cash register (point of sale) setup? |
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| 23:59.01 | gavi | stew, thanks |
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| 23:59.50 | path_ | is there anything else than amarok to burn my mp3 playlist ? |