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| 00:01.08 | abrotman | mth`AndyPost: ask #pleask .. we do not support plesk |
| 00:01.13 | abrotman | erm .. ask #plesk |
| 00:01.19 | mth`AndyPost | ah |
| 00:01.23 | mth`AndyPost | k - ty! |
| 00:02.35 | cwheeler | http://paste.debian.net/21808 |
| 00:03.48 | themill | cwheeler: that would tend to indicate that you've most definitely got an etch installation there. Or at least etch sources. What did you install from? (image name? url?) |
| 00:03.49 | abrotman | cwheeler: you're using etch. not lenny |
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| 00:04.09 | brainsoft | ive done a dist-upgrade and now I have broken packages |
| 00:04.15 | brainsoft | what can I do |
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| 00:04.34 | themill | brainsoft: dist-upgrade from what to what? what are the packages? /msg dpkg bat |
| 00:04.36 | cwheeler | debian lenny beta2 i386 netinst |
| 00:04.37 | oOarthurOo | The documents I'm reading show two different ways to run a patch. I've extracted <name>.patch to my /usr/src/linux directory, now I would like to do a --dry-run... what is the correct command? |
| 00:04.46 | cwheeler | which is why i'm confused |
| 00:05.17 | abrotman | cwheeler: put your sources.list in a pastebin |
| 00:05.19 | themill | cwheeler: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list? |
| 00:05.22 | cwheeler | i don't understand how I start with a lenny cd and get etch? |
| 00:05.33 | cwheeler | sources.list has etch |
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| 00:06.05 | abrotman | cwheeler: uname -a |
| 00:06.07 | Elite | zamuro, sorry one typo I do it all the time |
| 00:06.12 | Elite | where are the debain system logs stored by default? |
| 00:06.26 | oOarthurOo | I think it ought to be like this: patch -p1 --dry-run < filename.patch does that look ok? |
| 00:06.38 | cwheeler | http://paste.debian.net/21809 |
| 00:06.38 | cafuego | Elite: /var/log/syslog |
| 00:06.41 | DanDare | Hello all. I need to specify a option for a loaded module but i cant find the archive /etc/modprobe.d/options. Should I create it for the first time or where i can place options for modules ? |
| 00:07.06 | cafuego | DanDare: You can put it in any file under /etc/modprobe.d |
| 00:07.14 | cafuego | DanDare: Create a new one if you want, it doesn't matter. |
| 00:07.15 | DanDare | Oh |
| 00:07.17 | cwheeler | 21810 |
| 00:07.17 | themill | cwheeler: did you specify any boot parameters for the installer? |
| 00:07.20 | cwheeler | no |
| 00:07.22 | DanDare | ok so thanks cafuego |
| 00:07.41 | cwheeler | I used the non-graphical installer no boot params |
| 00:07.54 | Elite | I have sevral syslogs what one do I use? |
| 00:08.25 | abrotman | cwheeler: uname -a ? |
| 00:08.33 | cafuego | Elite: Depends on what you weant from it. `syslog' is the current one,. The sequentially numbered ones are archived ones, one per day I think. The higher the number, the older the file. |
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| 00:09.08 | Elite | ok |
| 00:09.12 | abrotman | oh .. i got a 'Lenny Stable Release Key' .... |
| 00:09.19 | cwheeler | abrotman: http://paste.debian.net/21810 |
| 00:09.33 | cafuego | abrotman: me too!!@1 |
| 00:09.41 | abrotman | don't pick on me cause i'm slow! |
| 00:09.52 | cafuego | picks on abrotman coz he's slow |
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| 00:10.10 | abrotman | get out of my nose! |
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| 00:10.21 | cwheeler | I installed lenny from this CD before |
| 00:10.27 | abrotman | !tell cwheeler about etch->lenny |
| 00:10.33 | cwheeler | so I don't understand what's wrong now |
| 00:10.50 | themill | cwheeler: are you sure that CD isn't the etchnhalf installer? |
| 00:10.55 | oOarthurOo | For instance... the man page shows that this: patch -p1 --dry-run < filename.patch maybe ought to be this: patch -p1 --dry-run <filename.patch ... no space after the < ... ? |
| 00:11.08 | cwheeler | I have the lenny .debs i can just put them in /var/cache/apt/archives and not have to d/l them? |
| 00:11.25 | cwheeler | themill: I used this CD to install lenny before |
| 00:11.45 | cwheeler | I read the page on etchnhalf about the boot param |
| 00:14.04 | cwheeler | so maybe make a new cd? I don't see how a cd can get corrupted and not have errors |
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| 00:15.10 | lejacques | hi all |
| 00:15.48 | oOarthurOo | I ask because I ran patch -p1 --dry-run linux-phc-0.3.2-kernel-vanilla-2.6.26.patch in a terminal as root and it's kinda just been sitting there doing nothing for a while. Should it take more than five minutes? |
| 00:15.50 | chordogg | hello |
| 00:16.11 | cafuego | oOarthurOo: No, you didn't do it quite right. |
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| 00:16.25 | cafuego | oOarthurOo: `patch' reads data from stdin, not from a specified filename. |
| 00:16.36 | cafuego | patch -p1 --dry-run < linux-phc-0.3.2-kernel-vanilla-2.6.26.patch |
| 00:16.48 | cafuego | or: cat linux-phc-0.3.2-kernel-vanilla-2.6.26.patch | patch -p1 --dry-run |
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| 00:17.09 | oOarthurOo | I missed the < operator... Ok... |
| 00:17.21 | lejacques | someone should be able to do this one in about 2 seconds: |
| 00:17.33 | lejacques | what packages do i need to build in debian? |
| 00:17.48 | lejacques | ive always installed build-essentials as a metapackage in arch |
| 00:17.56 | lejacques | im not sure what the equivalent is in deb |
| 00:18.14 | oOarthurOo | cafuego: Yeah... it took less than a second once the command was right. Thanks. |
| 00:18.42 | Vorbote | asks, where is that darn slash key? |
| 00:18.49 | cafuego | lejacques: You don't need to build anything, it's all precompiled ;-) |
| 00:18.56 | Vorbote | Rats? |
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| 00:19.07 | cafuego | lejacques: Where did you think arch stole that from? |
| 00:19.24 | lejacques | im trying to build dwm |
| 00:19.30 | Vorbote | lejacques: read the Debian policy manual |
| 00:19.40 | lejacques | i have to build it from source in order to get any use from it |
| 00:19.55 | Vorbote | lejacques: but pbuilder is a good way to start cheating. |
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| 00:23.12 | lejacques | whso theres nothing in the way of a simple meta i can apt? |
| 00:23.27 | cafuego | build-essential |
| 00:23.39 | abrotman | lejacques: what's wrong with the dwm package in debian ? |
| 00:23.40 | cafuego | Do keep up ;-) |
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| 00:24.44 | lejacques | cafuego: omg.... id initially spelled it wrong |
| 00:24.46 | lejacques | thanks so much |
| 00:24.52 | lejacques | abrotman: no customization... |
| 00:25.07 | abrotman | it's dwm .. |
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| 00:25.41 | SQlvpapir | how do I stream stuff to mplayer from a passwordprotected ftp site? |
| 00:25.51 | lejacques | abrotman: customization is done via source |
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| 00:26.36 | abrotman | but you can't even figure out how to compile it! |
| 00:27.48 | cafuego | SQlvpapir ftp://user:pass@host/dir/file |
| 00:28.10 | lejacques | abrotman: ive compiled before plenty, just was misspelling a package |
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| 00:30.36 | SQlvpapir | cafuego u have any clue what to do when the pw contains a @? |
| 00:31.05 | SQlvpapir | it tries to resolve @blablabla instead of blablabla |
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| 00:31.49 | jmoiron|home | how would one do a drive diagnostic on a USB drive? smartctl won't work, right? |
| 00:32.01 | themill | SQlvpapir: depending on your ftpd, you can often use # instead of @ in that case |
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| 00:32.27 | themill | SQlvpapir: err... that's for the username. password is more problematic. |
| 00:32.48 | SQlvpapir | yea just gonna change the pw temporary |
| 00:33.04 | cafuego | SQlvpapir: Also, try encoding the @ as %40 |
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| 00:34.59 | sente | hi, my processor is: Intel x86 Family 6 Model 14 Stepping 8 GenuineIntel |
| 00:35.11 | cafuego | Are you sure? |
| 00:35.14 | SQlvpapir | cafuego that did the job, thanks! |
| 00:35.18 | sente | i don't know what exact version of debian to download (will be using virtualbox) |
| 00:35.19 | cafuego | SQlvpapir: neet |
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| 00:35.30 | cafuego | sente: i386 will always work |
| 00:35.34 | sente | cafuego: thank you. |
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| 00:35.57 | sente | do you recommend a specific download beyond that? for virtualbox / a newbie? |
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| 00:38.01 | cafuego | sente: Either stable or testing would be fine at this stage I think. |
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| 00:39.19 | lavren_ | Does anyone have any suggestions as to the easiest way of fetching the instruction original:replacement pair from .altinstructions and .altinstr_repl sections in vmlinux? Assuming the data segment is mapped into process memory, and there are already pointers to the offsets for both of those sections. |
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| 00:40.49 | dustybin | when i reboot my server, i lose my alsa device, to get it back i need to launch alsaconf again, what might be causing this? ive already tried purging all the alsa software and re-installing |
| 00:41.20 | brainsoft | I can't install anything through apt |
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| 00:42.15 | Elite | why not? |
| 00:42.20 | Elite | whats the rror? |
| 00:42.21 | brainsoft | broken packages |
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| 00:42.30 | brainsoft | recursively |
| 00:42.49 | brainsoft | every package is broken respect some other |
| 00:43.10 | sente | cafuego: thanks |
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| 00:45.34 | abrotman | !tell brainsoft about paste |
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| 00:45.53 | oOarthurOo | Currently I'm using the "pentium pro" processor family in my kernel config, but I've read that my core duo t2050 belongs to march=prescott. I believe that means I should switch from Pentium-Pro to Pentium M... any alarms bells going off in people heads? |
| 00:46.12 | abrotman | yes, why are you compiling your own kernel? |
| 00:46.23 | Shockcore | http://rafb.net/p/sPuUF756.html anyone knows why it dosent work? |
| 00:46.36 | Shockcore | i installed both mono-jit and mono-common 1.9 |
| 00:46.37 | cafuego | oOarthurOo: No, it really doesn't matter that much. |
| 00:46.47 | abrotman | Shockcore: there's no meta package in lenny |
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| 00:46.56 | abrotman | or it's out of date .. one of those |
| 00:47.23 | oOarthurOo | heh... I meant about the procesor. But ah... I've had to do a lot of the work just in order to get a phc-enabled acpi module, so that I can undervolt my laptop. I figured since I've gone to all the work anyway, I may as well try and optimize the thing further. |
| 00:47.29 | Shockcore | abrotman what do you mean? |
| 00:47.43 | abrotman | Shockcore: i'm saying that the 'mono' metapackage in lenny is useless |
| 00:47.52 | Wyzard | oOarthurOo: Pentium M would be more appropriate than Pentium Pro |
| 00:48.18 | oOarthurOo | and anytime a new kernel is released, on Lenny I can' imagine it will be too often now, I'd have to recompile the module anyway. So, that's about it |
| 00:48.54 | oOarthurOo | thanks cafuego and Wyzard... I'm writing all this stuff down in my notes so that I won't have to ask again if there is a kernel update on Lenny in the next two or three years of its life. |
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| 00:49.03 | Shockcore | abrotman what do i need to install to have the mono bin then? |
| 00:49.23 | abrotman | Shockcore: why are you mixing versions of debian ? |
| 00:49.35 | brainsoft | http://debian.pastebin.com/m1d0fdd64 |
| 00:49.38 | abrotman | mono-jit in lenny |
| 00:49.57 | Wyzard | oOarthurOo: There may be an actual Core 2 choice though (I'm not sure; I don't manually build kernels anymore since there's not much need for it) |
| 00:50.09 | Wyzard | oOarthurOo: If there is, it might be only for a 64-bit build |
| 00:50.22 | abrotman | brainsoft: run an `aptitude update` first .. then `aptitude install pidgin` .. if it still doesn't work paste your sources.list in a pastebin |
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| 00:50.32 | Shockcore | abrotman, because if i use the stable package its only mono 1.2... |
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| 00:50.42 | Shockcore | i want the .net 3.0 compiler |
| 00:50.45 | oOarthurOo | Wyzard: There is... but from what I've read core duo's are just rebranded and not actually something new, like core 2 duo. |
| 00:50.50 | oOarthurOo | Confusing naming scheme. |
| 00:50.56 | abrotman | Shockcore: you shouldn't be mixing versions of debian .. that's how things break .. and oyu're about to break your system badly |
| 00:51.10 | brainsoft | abrotman: it keeps saying the same |
| 00:51.15 | Shockcore | right |
| 00:51.18 | abrotman | !tell Shockcore about bpo |
| 00:51.24 | abrotman | brainsoft: so paste what i asked for |
| 00:51.31 | Wyzard | oOarthurOo: ah, I though you said Core 2, sorry |
| 00:51.43 | Wyzard | oOarthurOo: In that case, Pentium M is probably the most appropriate choice |
| 00:52.34 | oOarthurOo | Great. Thanks Wyzard... I read as much as I can but I like to have my beliefs validated by strangers on the internet. |
| 00:52.37 | oOarthurOo | m;) |
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| 00:53.16 | stoned | php-gtk in debian |
| 00:53.19 | Shockcore | http://rafb.net/p/3BaZE999.html |
| 00:53.19 | stoned | c'mon where is it |
| 00:53.33 | stoned | !why is php-gtk not in sid |
| 00:53.33 | dpkg | stoned: what are you talking about? |
| 00:53.38 | stoned | stupid bot! |
| 00:54.30 | Shockcore | abrotman saw this? hope i didnt f*cked anything |
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| 00:57.33 | abrotman | Shockcore: what? |
| 00:57.47 | abrotman | Shockcore: /msg dpkg bpo .. use backports.org .. not testing |
| 00:57.48 | Shockcore | http://rafb.net/p/3BaZE999.html |
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| 00:58.19 | Shockcore | erm |
| 00:58.20 | Shockcore | k |
| 00:58.42 | abrotman | i *just* told you *not* to do that ... and you did it anyways .. enjoy the pieces |
| 00:59.11 | Shockcore | so now i need to downgrade libc6 cpp etc to stable? |
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| 01:00.11 | cafuego | Yes, but the trick is to do that whilst not trashing the installation even more. |
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| 01:01.02 | Shockcore | i didnt mate |
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| 01:04.57 | daave | Hello, what should I do if I forget my own password but know the root's password? |
| 01:05.17 | et | use "passwd username" as root |
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| 01:06.05 | daave | et: thanks |
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| 01:10.27 | oOarthurOo | That couldn't possibly have worked. I was told to expect kernel compilation to take hours, but it took about ten seconds. |
| 01:10.45 | cafuego | 10 minutes maybe, not hours |
| 01:12.52 | oOarthurOo | I found my mistake. I removed kernel_image and kernel_headers from the end of my command. I thought those were part of the custom title |
| 01:12.57 | oOarthurOo | oops |
| 01:13.10 | cafuego | Not so much, no. |
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| 01:16.53 | yak | join #anarchy too... |
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| 01:17.19 | Shadowcat | if I wanted anarchy all I need to do is watch my gcc output |
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| 01:23.58 | Sweetandy | Is this channel restricted to etch, or can lenny and sid be discussed too? |
| 01:24.11 | abrotman | just ask your question |
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| 01:36.23 | sgeigerbot | ~xserver |
| 01:36.24 | apt | [xserver] built last (I think) of all the stuff in programs |
| 01:36.44 | sgeigerbot | ~xfonts |
| 01:36.45 | apt | If you are manually installing X using apt-get you will need xfonts-base. If your font aliases get corrupted, you can try dpkg-reconfigure xfonts-base, yet if all else fails you will need to dpkg -P xfonts-base && apt-get install xfonts-base, so that the configuration for the fonts used in X are restored. |
| 01:37.12 | dustybin | i just did a lenny upgrade and it has broke alsa + my soundcard , ive sent a report to alsa |
| 01:37.16 | dustybin | http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=5b153b14cff8c439b2191e637e91f2d00554420e |
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| 01:39.04 | jonas21 | sorry to ask this question but what is the nature of the size discrepancy between the 'Size' and 'Avail' on an ext3 drive; is that journal size? |
| 01:39.14 | jonas21 | (Size and Avail from df) |
| 01:39.19 | micols | how do i get the burn time of my dvd, ls -alh wont display it , neither will stat /cdrom/content ? |
| 01:39.49 | micols | as in burn date |
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| 01:47.40 | htmlol | I'm trying to install gspca, but I get the following error when following dpkg's instructions: http://paste.debian.net/21814/ |
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| 01:48.06 | htmlol | that's during make |
| 01:48.12 | gib_ | hi. cant start the sound...had try kde:"cannot open display"...in gnome,lspci recognize but just steel silent...could anyone... |
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| 01:49.52 | oOarthurOo | I've noticed that and always wondered why xfonts-base isn't a required dependency of xserver, since X won't start without them. |
| 01:50.48 | sgeigerbot | ~flash |
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| 01:53.13 | dustybin | grrrrrrrrr im suffering from this bug |
| 01:53.16 | sgeigerbot | apt: where are you here? |
| 01:53.18 | apt | I think you lost me on that one, sgeigerbot |
| 01:53.18 | dustybin | http://www.archivum.info/linux.debian.bugs.dist/2008-09/msg08664.html |
| 01:53.32 | dustybin | if something is 'Fixed in upstream 1.0.17.' |
| 01:53.32 | sgeigerbot | apt: flash |
| 01:53.35 | dustybin | what does that mean? |
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| 01:56.01 | GhostlyDeath | Noes! |
| 01:56.10 | GhostlyDeath | I get a 404 in the goodbye-windows thingy |
| 01:56.56 | sgeigerb` | ~seen naked boobies |
| 01:56.57 | apt | sgeigerb`: i haven't seen 'naked boobies' |
| 01:57.49 | DaRtHo | o.0 |
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| 02:01.05 | adb | oOarthurOo: apt-cache depends xorg |
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| 02:04.11 | abrotman | sgeigerb`: stop |
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| 02:04.57 | oOarthurOo | adb I don't have xorg installed |
| 02:05.01 | sgeigerb` | abrotman: where are all the people? |
| 02:05.05 | oOarthurOo | xorg must be a virtual package |
| 02:05.15 | abrotman | sgeigerb`: what do oyou need help with? |
| 02:05.19 | abrotman | oOarthurOo: metapackage |
| 02:05.34 | sgeigerb` | abrotman: I was having a hard time getting the flash player to work. |
| 02:05.43 | abrotman | need more info |
| 02:05.46 | sgeigerb` | (just by using packages in Debian) |
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| 02:06.00 | oOarthurOo | abrotman: ok. I don't need help with anything. I just noticed that you can install xorg-xserver and not get xfonts-base installed, even though it won't start up without them. |
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| 02:06.10 | abrotman | i didn't ask you |
| 02:06.17 | abrotman | oOarthurOo: yes .. install 'xorg' |
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| 02:08.55 | abrotman | Shockcore: do not msg me |
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| 02:09.08 | abrotman | Shockcore: ask here |
| 02:09.18 | Shockcore | ok |
| 02:09.18 | Shockcore | well |
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| 02:09.34 | Shockcore | http://rafb.net/p/3BaZE999.html |
| 02:09.41 | Shockcore | i remove testing from sources.list |
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| 02:09.48 | Shockcore | now i need to get back to old libc |
| 02:09.57 | abrotman | i told you not to do that |
| 02:10.18 | Shockcore | do what? |
| 02:10.22 | amphi | this seems a popular pasttime of late |
| 02:10.34 | abrotman | people ignoring people that know what they're doing? |
| 02:10.52 | Shockcore | u told me to not use testing but i did hours before |
| 02:11.11 | abrotman | but you're still using -t to install from testing |
| 02:11.28 | amphi | installing unsuitable libcs (or should that be libs c?) |
| 02:11.30 | Shockcore | yes i did that before i came here |
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| 02:12.13 | Shockcore | now i tried to compile unrealirc and it says that my cpp cannot produce executables... |
| 02:12.19 | abrotman | so what is the problem now? |
| 02:12.31 | abrotman | so why don't you show us the actual error |
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| 02:12.55 | Shockcore | checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables |
| 02:13.00 | abrotman | !b-e Shockcore |
| 02:13.00 | dpkg | Shockcore: Sounds like you need to aptitude install build-essential. |
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| 02:13.29 | Shockcore | heh |
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| 02:14.13 | Shockcore | http://rafb.net/p/gWsUh669.html |
| 02:15.13 | oOarthurOo | Well.. it finished compiling, and now supposedly "After the successful kernel build, you can find two .deb packages in the /usr/src directory." ... Alas, there are no debs anywhere to be found. THere are a few errors in the terminal t the end of the compile process: http://pastebin.com/d6ebb7945 And here is the command I gave to do it all: fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version=-hp530 kernel_image kernel_headers |
| 02:15.30 | abrotman | Shockcore: guess you'll have to say Y and pray |
| 02:15.42 | Shockcore | worked |
| 02:15.56 | abrotman | you think .. you might want to try a reboot .. oh .. back up your data first |
| 02:17.06 | Shockcore | hehe |
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| 02:18.12 | oOarthurOo | darn. It turns out you need to install zlib1g-dev for this to work. Now why didn't the author include that I wonder. I assume I have to recompile the whole thing, but do I have to go back to square one, copy my config from boot and recofigure? |
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| 02:27.11 | black_13 | what is happening here http://rafb.net/p/4SqkVU15.html |
| 02:27.36 | abrotman | you're mixing versions of debian ? |
| 02:27.57 | abrotman | looks at amphi |
| 02:29.15 | abrotman | !tell black_13 about overwrite |
| 02:29.17 | Talonx | id be happy with one that can detect sata cd devices |
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| 02:29.31 | amphi | 'pasted as C++'? wtf? |
| 02:29.34 | black_13 | i upgraded from etch to lenny |
| 02:29.42 | abrotman | Talonx: one what? |
| 02:30.05 | Talonx | i installed the latest debian etch |
| 02:30.13 | abrotman | use either etchnhalf or lenny |
| 02:30.13 | Talonx | no cd drive |
| 02:30.43 | Talonx | can you load a dynamic kernel module in linux? |
| 02:31.06 | Talonx | like kldload ata_working.mod |
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| 02:31.39 | abrotman | or ignore me ... |
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| 02:32.13 | Talonx | abrotman: you tell me |
| 02:32.28 | abrotman | i just did .. use etchnhalf or lenny |
| 02:32.44 | Talonx | it costs me 30c a mb |
| 02:32.53 | Talonx | i have the latest stable of deb |
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| 02:33.07 | Talonx | il make it work just need a hint |
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| 02:35.23 | abrotman | does your NIC work ? |
| 02:35.53 | Talonx | my 10/100/1000 does but i have no idea how to connect it with my nextg wireless |
| 02:36.15 | abrotman | so plug it in |
| 02:36.43 | Talonx | abrotman: i have a miniport wireless |
| 02:36.51 | abrotman | so your internet works ? |
| 02:36.53 | Talonx | i can work that out later.. i need cd |
| 02:36.59 | abrotman | so your internet works ? |
| 02:37.08 | Talonx | im on vista home |
| 02:37.21 | Talonx | its crashed 3 times in a week |
| 02:37.28 | abrotman | that's vista! |
| 02:37.36 | Talonx | i cant put bsd on this machine so i choose debian |
| 02:37.42 | Talonx | best support |
| 02:37.53 | abrotman | so your internet works in debian ? |
| 02:38.11 | Talonx | i can ping my nic |
| 02:38.19 | Talonx | not my wifi nic |
| 02:38.27 | abrotman | stop avoiding the question |
| 02:38.53 | Talonx | if my internet worked id be using deb |
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| 02:39.03 | abrotman | so your wired nic doesn't work ? |
| 02:39.08 | Talonx | stabs abrotman |
| 02:39.18 | Talonx | wired is ok |
| 02:39.31 | abrotman | so reboot into debian, and install a CLI IRC client |
| 02:39.35 | abrotman | then come back |
| 02:40.01 | abrotman | or .. apt-cache search etchnhalf .. and install the etchnhalf kernel for your CPU type |
| 02:40.05 | Talonx | ffs |
| 02:40.25 | Talonx | i have a miniport working on doze |
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| 02:43.49 | Talonx | abrotman: dont give up on me lol |
| 02:43.57 | abrotman | i already gave you the answer |
| 02:44.05 | Talonx | (&&%^$ |
| 02:44.10 | abrotman | indeed |
| 02:45.00 | abrotman | the support for your hardware likely didn't exist in the .18 that etch uses by default, so try the etchnhalf kernel (your wifi might also start working) |
| 02:45.29 | Talonx | is it on the dvd or do i need to dl it? |
| 02:45.35 | abrotman | download |
| 02:45.45 | abrotman | you'll have to download it either way |
| 02:45.50 | abrotman | it's about .. 30MB IIRC |
| 02:46.04 | Talonx | u have the link ? |
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| 02:46.05 | abrotman | !info linux-image-2.6.24-1-686-etchnahalf |
| 02:46.08 | abrotman | whoops |
| 02:46.12 | abrotman | Talonx: i just told you how! |
| 02:46.16 | abrotman | !info linux-image-2.6.24-1-686-etchnahalf etch |
| 02:47.05 | Talonx | i installed deb about 3 years ago with a sata cd rom |
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| 02:47.18 | Talonx | wtf is with the new versions |
| 02:47.33 | mhymn_ | ... and .26 in now in backports |
| 02:47.38 | black_13 | when i try to start kde i get a black screen and an arrow cursor ... x has started but not kde |
| 02:48.13 | abrotman | but it depends on your controller and your device |
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| 02:48.39 | Talonx | its a notebook acer aspire 5520 |
| 02:48.39 | Talonx | pofs |
| 02:48.57 | Talonx | i wanted leapord on it |
| 02:49.24 | abrotman | leopard |
| 02:49.37 | Talonx | yer ;) |
| 02:50.05 | Talonx | i tested the celery with freesbie and ended up getting the amd one |
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| 02:50.16 | Talonx | its a shitbox |
| 02:53.00 | Talonx | so abrotman any idea how to install and run a telstra nextg express card with ppp/pppd? |
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| 02:53.31 | abrotman | is it dsl or real dial up ? |
| 02:54.30 | abrotman | either pppconf or pppoeconf .. if the device is detected |
| 02:54.48 | Talonx | i see it in dmesg |
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| 02:54.56 | Talonx | its a globetrotter card |
| 02:55.02 | abrotman | i don't use telstra |
| 02:55.16 | Talonx | im trapped using them atm |
| 02:55.19 | BCM43 | my xserver seems to be messed up, as shown in this http://img153.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot3dr1.png link. It happens with all apps. |
| 02:55.51 | abrotman | BCM43: looks fine to me ? |
| 02:55.59 | BCM43 | abrotman: really? |
| 02:56.05 | BCM43 | look at the top distortion |
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| 02:56.14 | BCM43 | and the buttons on firefox |
| 02:56.14 | Talonx | abrotman is on drugs |
| 02:56.19 | abrotman | the static ? |
| 02:56.21 | abrotman | Talonx: stop |
| 02:56.24 | BCM43 | yes |
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| 02:56.33 | abrotman | BCM43: tried with the vesa driver? |
| 02:56.36 | BCM43 | no |
| 02:56.42 | BCM43 | how would I do that? |
| 02:56.54 | abrotman | tell xorg to use the vesa driver in your xorg.conf |
| 02:57.25 | damjan | I've just installed debian 4.0 on an IBM server and it has automatically put the hardisk in a dm_multipath setup (I dunno why) .. anyone knows where to look to disable this? |
| 02:57.37 | Talonx | BCM43 if u get a fuckup in x just delete the conf in X11 thedefault will start most vid cards |
| 02:57.45 | Talonx | liks abrotman |
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| 02:58.25 | oOarthurOo | hmm... I'm trying to find the lowest frequency for my cpu. Because cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies shows four available frequencies. However, cat /proc/cpuinfo shows that each core has stepping: 8. Which, if I'm readig this correctly, means my bios is denying me the use of four intermediate steps. OR... perhaps steps even lower than 800mhz on a 1600mhz duo core |
| 02:58.33 | Talonx | damjan if u just installed it redo it and partion the device correctly |
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| 02:59.02 | damjan | well.. can do that now :( |
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| 02:59.30 | damjan | Talonx: but "fdisk -l" says the partitions are type 83 |
| 02:59.49 | abrotman | BCM43: you might find 'X -configure' useful |
| 02:59.55 | BCM43 | ok |
| 02:59.56 | BCM43 | thanks |
| 03:00.23 | Talonx | i doubt it has anything to do with x |
| 03:00.34 | BCM43 | why not? |
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| 03:00.49 | abrotman | that's why he's trying the vesa driver .. to rule out software |
| 03:01.06 | BCM43 | how do I try the vesa driver? I am confused |
| 03:01.09 | abrotman | well .. hopefully rule it out |
| 03:01.17 | Talonx | abrotman rm -rf all the x config files .. ? |
| 03:01.38 | BCM43 | remove all of the x config files? |
| 03:01.41 | Talonx | most systems will start X |
| 03:01.46 | Talonx | yer |
| 03:01.53 | Talonx | mv this this.bak |
| 03:01.57 | Talonx | of course |
| 03:02.04 | abrotman | Talonx: don't do that again |
| 03:02.05 | BCM43 | ok |
| 03:02.06 | Talonx | dont just delete all |
| 03:02.06 | BCM43 | thanks |
| 03:02.06 | Yetiamchosen | Hello, everyone. I'm experiencing a rather odd GRUB error, and I had hoped I could plumb the depths of knowledge which I know lie here. It's very strange. Details are as follows: http://pastebin.ca/1261064 |
| 03:02.07 | Talonx | lol |
| 03:02.16 | abrotman | Talonx: worry about your own problem |
| 03:02.23 | Talonx | i am |
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| 03:02.32 | Talonx | fucking vista is luring me back |
| 03:02.40 | abrotman | Yetiamchosen: ask #ubuntu .. you're not using debian |
| 03:02.41 | Talonx | i have MSN on this box |
| 03:02.45 | Talonx | l33t |
| 03:03.03 | Yetiamchosen | abrotman: I'm not using ubuntu either, the question relates to GRUB. |
| 03:03.20 | abrotman | then ask #grub |
| 03:03.28 | abrotman | why would you ask #debian ... |
| 03:03.34 | Talonx | im off to ride the 4wheeler and drink beer with my redneck mates .. il be back if u are aregular abortman |
| 03:03.47 | abrotman | i can't wait |
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| 03:03.52 | Talonx | cheer up dude :) |
| 03:03.57 | Yetiamchosen | abrotman: I have three operating systems loaded, none of which have anything to do with my issue. If you don't want to help me, I don't mind. I am in #grub as well, but there have been some very knowledgable people here in the past that have helped me with issues not always directly related to debian, but perhaps indirectly. |
| 03:03.58 | Talonx | *gone* |
| 03:04.11 | oOarthurOo | This is my processor here: http://processorfinder.intel.com/DetailsPrinterFriendly.aspx?sSpec=SL9BN and I've been going through the developer documentatin, but so far I can't find out what speeds these 8 steps are set at |
| 03:04.24 | abrotman | Yetiamchosen: then go ask a channel not for Debian support .. #grub is a good start |
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| 03:05.12 | brainsoft | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:05.17 | damjan | Yetiamchosen: so you have two grub installations on your system? |
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| 03:05.31 | abrotman | brainsoft: it's a current bug in sid |
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| 03:05.37 | amphi | oOarthurOo: cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies should tell you |
| 03:05.45 | amphi | oOarthurOo: if that's what you mean |
| 03:05.46 | Yetiamchosen | damjan: No, just one. Did you read my pastebin details? |
| 03:05.47 | abrotman | Yetiamchosen: you're offtopic .. try another channel, this channel is for Debian support |
| 03:05.57 | abrotman | Yetiamchosen: if you persist, you can be devoiced |
| 03:06.03 | oOarthurOo | amphi: Except that only shows four available steps... and it has eight. So I'm curious what's missing |
| 03:06.22 | GhostlyDeath | There any alternatives to installing debian without a CD? |
| 03:06.29 | abrotman | GhostlyDeath: yes |
| 03:06.30 | Yetiamchosen | abrotman: If you'd like I can resubmit the pastebin with the word 'debian' instead of 'ubuntu'. Would that make you happy? I can do that if you'd like. :) |
| 03:06.31 | abrotman | !tell GhostlyDeath about ig |
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| 03:06.51 | abrotman | Yetiamchosen: you've been silenced for 10 minutes for being offtopic |
| 03:07.27 | brainsoft | abrotman: what should I do, wait? |
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| 03:07.54 | abrotman | GhostlyDeath: there is a webpage, floppies, netboot, hd-media .. to name a few |
| 03:08.06 | abrotman | brainsoft: i'd imagine so .. that's one of the pitfalls of using unstable, things break |
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| 03:09.04 | amphi | oOarthurOo: stupid intel, they don't list mine - perhaps they're ashamed of it :( |
| 03:09.50 | damjan | GhostlyDeath: PXE is simplest if you have another computer |
| 03:09.57 | n3kl | How can I tell why a package was installed? |
| 03:09.59 | damjan | it's 3-4 lines config in dnsmasq |
| 03:10.07 | abrotman | n3kl: aptitude why <pkg> |
| 03:10.13 | GhostlyDeath | I have another Debian PC |
| 03:10.24 | topherbartos | I'm was using Rhythmbox and listening through my USB headset. Now I want to play through the speakers and it's not letting me. Anyone know what I should do? Or is there a better channel for my question? |
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| 03:10.50 | n3kl | abrotman: nice, thanks |
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| 03:11.31 | damjan | GhostlyDeath: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/478 also see the comments about enable-tftp in dnsmasq |
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| 03:11.54 | mase_work | hi guys, is there a 2.4 based version of debian which still gets security updates ? (or one with 2.4 backports ) ? |
| 03:12.13 | mase_work | i have a PC400 card whose driver didn't make it into 2.6 |
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| 03:12.40 | abrotman | mase_work: no, there is no version of debian still supported using a 2.4.x kernel |
| 03:13.53 | mase_work | abrotman: do you know if there is one that would allow me to run a 2.4 kernel if i compiled it ? or is the userland not capable anymore |
| 03:14.19 | abrotman | mase_work: rumors are etch will function, but you may have issues |
| 03:14.35 | abrotman | i doubt lenny would work at all |
| 03:14.54 | mase_work | abrotman: ok. and etch still gets security updates ? |
| 03:15.15 | abrotman | for now .. and likely another year |
| 03:15.17 | abrotman | at least |
| 03:15.40 | abrotman | i think the current deal would be for one year following the release of lenny (whenever that happens) |
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| 03:17.09 | oOarthurOo | This is crazy how hard it is to find this information. |
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| 03:20.59 | Greyscale | soup Yetiamchosen |
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| 03:27.32 | Greyscale | dongs |
| 03:28.13 | MarmaladePeePee | Yes. You like them. |
| 03:28.27 | MarmaladePeePee | abrotman: Greyscale is talking about dongs, that's not on topic. I think he should be silenced. :| |
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| 03:29.28 | MarmaladePeePee | Psh. Double standards, everywhere. Communist bastards. |
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| 03:29.33 | abrotman | then leave |
| 03:29.41 | Greyscale | oh noes, teh FA9 anti-faggotry aircraft with bullshit-pearcing banhammers will popup behind the next hill and shoot me. |
| 03:29.58 | abrotman | !tell Greyscale about gay |
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| 03:31.11 | MarmaladePeePee | Someone wants help with the bootloader on their debian based distribution, and they are silenced for being off topic. Someone comes in yelling about dongs and FA9 anti faggotry aircrafts and he is ignored. Well, I suppose the number of users in the channel is a testament to its success. I probably don't really have any room to talk about the way things should be. I'm just glad I have the opportunity to be in such a vast library of knowledge a |
| 03:31.37 | Greyscale | I'm fairly sure dpkg is coming on to me in a PM.. |
| 03:31.47 | MarmaladePeePee | hahahaha |
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| 03:32.13 | amphi | and still so many days until sunday... |
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| 03:38.03 | abrotman | amphi: it's not often you seen chanserv kickban ... |
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| 03:40.40 | abrotman | uh .. see |
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| 03:40.55 | Shockcore | abrotman all worked fine :P |
| 03:41.02 | abrotman | Shockcore: glad to hear it |
| 03:41.17 | abrotman | Shockcore: if you want newer mono .. see backports.org and follow the instructions there |
| 03:41.57 | Shockcore | i already did |
| 03:42.13 | Shockcore | apt-get -t etch-backports install mono-2.0-devel |
| 03:42.18 | Shockcore | apt-get -t etch-backports install mono-gmcs |
| 03:42.20 | Shockcore | thats what i did |
| 03:43.11 | abrotman | ok |
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| 04:09.13 | giacomo_c | how can i set iceweasel as my default browser and is there anyway to just remove epiphany? |
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| 04:09.41 | stew | giacomo_c: "update-alternatives --config x-www-browser" ; "aptitude remove epiphany-browser" |
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| 04:10.18 | sirob | wow |
| 04:10.24 | sirob | you are fast :) |
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| 04:11.26 | mu-dev | now lets see if he notices he's been answered |
| 04:11.35 | giacomo_c | i did notice |
| 04:11.48 | giacomo_c | thank you stew |
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| 04:13.21 | giacomo_c | when i go to remove epiphany-browser, it says its removing libwine libwine-alsa libwine-cms etc... is this going to mess up my wine setup? |
| 04:14.51 | stew | giacomo_c: is the wine package installed? |
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| 04:15.48 | giacomo_c | well i compiled wine 1.1.8 |
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| 04:16.27 | giacomo_c | so its not from the repos |
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| 04:24.03 | giacomo_c | i guess ill just let it be, thanks for letting me know how to change the default browser though |
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| 04:24.12 | prasanna | hi i am getting some problem with speech dispatcher |
| 04:24.40 | magyar | hi, how can i manually run cron on /etc/cron.d/cronfile ? |
| 04:25.31 | prasanna | i tried spd-say command audio is not coming out , whats the problem ? |
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| 04:53.03 | giacomo_c | ok, one more question, why won't alacarte let me add items to the main menu? |
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| 04:53.16 | giacomo_c | when i try and make a new item, i click okay, then nothing adds |
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| 05:04.09 | simonrvn | giacomo_c: wot? always works ok for me. |
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| 05:04.34 | giacomo_c | are you using lenny? |
| 05:04.43 | simonrvn | sid |
| 05:04.50 | simonrvn | same version though |
| 05:04.53 | giacomo_c | oh |
| 05:05.01 | giacomo_c | hmmm, idk why it won't work |
| 05:05.06 | simonrvn | (last time i sued it that is, which was this summer) |
| 05:05.08 | simonrvn | used* |
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| 05:27.20 | Shockcore | any reason why would my aliases defined in .bashrc say: -sh: lll: command not found |
| 05:27.59 | DogBoy | you mean when you go to use an alias |
| 05:28.10 | stew | Shockcore: you are typing "lll" and it gives you that error? |
| 05:30.03 | Shockcore | yes |
| 05:30.19 | stew | Shockcore: if you type 'alias'. is lll one of the listed aliases? |
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| 05:30.41 | Shockcore | alias lll='cd ~/pftp;./test' |
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| 05:31.52 | stew | Shockcore: i don't think you can do that with an alias. you want a shell function instead. try "unalias lll" then "lll() { cd ~/pftp;./test }" |
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| 05:32.55 | valdyn | it works fine on bash |
| 05:33.15 | Shockcore | alias ll='ls -l' |
| 05:33.18 | Shockcore | that dont even work |
| 05:33.39 | stew | Shockcore: what does "echo $SHELL" return? |
| 05:34.13 | Shockcore | ./bin/sh |
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| 05:35.04 | stew | Shockcore: what does "readlink -f /bin/sh" return? |
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| 05:35.25 | Shockcore | ./bin/bash |
| 05:36.04 | stew | i don't konw why the . would be there in either case |
| 05:36.14 | stew | oh, you are adding that? |
| 05:36.17 | Shockcore | its just to output here |
| 05:36.21 | Shockcore | else mirc think its a command |
| 05:36.23 | Shockcore | :P |
| 05:36.25 | Shockcore | yes |
| 05:36.38 | amphi | d'oh |
| 05:36.45 | stew | i don't know if running bash as sh puts it into some compatibility mode |
| 05:36.51 | amphi | why are you using mirc? |
| 05:36.55 | stew | Shockcore: if you start a subshell with /bin/bash, do things start working? |
| 05:37.31 | valdyn | all this stuff works fine |
| 05:37.35 | \amethyst | stew: it does the equivalent of set -o posix |
| 05:37.55 | \amethyst | stew: which disables some but not all extensions |
| 05:39.27 | Shockcore | if i start /bin/bash yes things start to work |
| 05:41.18 | Shockcore | can i fix permanently |
| 05:42.18 | \amethyst | chsh will change your login shell |
| 05:42.55 | Shockcore | can i simply remove sh and put bash as default for everyone |
| 05:43.40 | \amethyst | Shockcore: /etc/adduser.conf is where the default for new users is set |
| 05:43.54 | \amethyst | Shockcore: you can, as root, run chsh on each existing user |
| 05:44.06 | \amethyst | or just edit /etc/passwd and change the last column |
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| 05:45.09 | Shockcore | ok |
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| 05:46.50 | sylarrr | is there an easy way to block one user web access? |
| 05:47.45 | mu-dev | sylarrr: define "user" |
| 05:48.21 | Shockcore | i see now... useradd even use /bin/sh |
| 05:48.31 | Shockcore | and adduser use /bin/bash |
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| 05:48.42 | Shockcore | even if /etc/adduser.conf is bin/bash |
| 05:49.18 | mu-dev | useradd is a script? |
| 05:50.21 | mu-dev | no... it's a binary executable |
| 05:50.28 | mu-dev | ok, so you mean something else |
| 05:51.02 | Shockcore | dunno but i fixed it in /etc/default/useradd |
| 05:51.09 | mu-dev | ok, note that adduser calls useradd and useradd does not read adduser's configs |
| 05:51.38 | mu-dev | useradd knows how to set its own defaults as well |
| 05:51.55 | mu-dev | me, I never use the defaults, I specify everything |
| 05:51.56 | \amethyst | useradd's settings come from /etc/default/useradd |
| 05:52.12 | Shockcore | yep |
| 05:52.20 | \amethyst | oh, doh |
| 05:53.08 | sylarrr | what, mu-dev ? |
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| 05:54.39 | mu-dev | sylarrr: stated another way... I'm not sure what you're after... it's hard to restrict which programs a user can use, for example |
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| 05:55.21 | ganes | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:55.37 | sylarrr | mu-dev, I was thinking of user base firewalling |
| 05:55.46 | mu-dev | also, do you mean "I run a web site and I want a particular user coming from a particular machine to not be allowed" |
| 05:55.48 | sylarrr | like block port 80 if user is X |
| 05:56.09 | sylarrr | local user |
| 05:56.34 | mu-dev | so, you want to deny him from doing anything with port 80 |
| 05:56.41 | sylarrr | I want to prevent some lazy worker from wondering around the web instead of doing his job |
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| 05:57.26 | TiMiDo | hey i have a question. how come i can play audio files. for example my. xmms works fine. i have sound but on my mplayer or totem does not work how come? |
| 05:57.52 | mu-dev | their configuration? |
| 05:58.18 | sylarrr | I can think of a few ways of doing it, but thought of asking first if there is an easy way, before I start messing with proxies and user group settings |
| 05:58.19 | TiMiDo | configuration? |
| 05:59.25 | mu-dev | I guess one way is write a new iptables filter |
| 05:59.41 | mu-dev | one that tests for a user or a group of users |
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| 06:00.07 | sylarrr | iptable has user options? |
| 06:00.08 | mu-dev | or one that tests to see if an env var's value matches a hash |
| 06:00.15 | mu-dev | you'd have to write it |
| 06:00.22 | mu-dev | in C |
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| 06:01.20 | sylarrr | sound nice, but lots of reading |
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| 06:02.29 | TiMiDo | hey i have a question. how come i can play audio files. for example my. xmms works fine. i have sound but on my mplayer or totem does not work how come? |
| 06:02.45 | Guerin | !htfswk TiMiDo |
| 06:02.46 | dpkg | TiMiDo: How The Fuck Should We Know? |
| 06:03.03 | TiMiDo | Guerin, is ac97 |
| 06:03.09 | Guerin | TiMiDo: irrelevant |
| 06:03.19 | TiMiDo | Guerin, yeah |
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| 06:12.00 | mu-dev | TiMiDo when you run mplayer from a shell it outputs info... |
| 06:12.14 | mu-dev | maybe it complains about sound |
| 06:12.21 | TiMiDo | mu-dev, Cannot find codec for audio |
| 06:12.22 | TiMiDo | =) |
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| 06:12.57 | mu-dev | ahh, so you found something new |
| 06:13.09 | mu-dev | after you started asking... |
| 06:13.16 | epsilon | are you trying to play the same audio file? |
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| 06:13.30 | TiMiDo | yeah mu-dev |
| 06:13.44 | TiMiDo | but it's odd though because i can actually hear sound when i do speak-test or with xmms |
| 06:14.03 | mu-dev | which means the driver is fine |
| 06:14.23 | epsilon | checked "alsamixer"? (if you use alsa) |
| 06:14.40 | epsilon | maybe somethings muted or set to zero |
| 06:14.53 | mu-dev | can mplayer play other kinds of files? |
| 06:15.14 | epsilon | many, if you have codec installed |
| 06:15.52 | mu-dev | epsilon: he's saying it says a codec is not installed |
| 06:16.05 | mu-dev | or more directly that it can't be found |
| 06:16.25 | xoz | TiMiDo: try vlc if the sound works |
| 06:16.34 | TiMiDo | http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=f82e1fec9f8a91227d7c0ee812dbe9265ec1fada |
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| 06:18.12 | TiMiDo | no sound with vlc either |
| 06:18.16 | optraz | how do i disable icmp reply ? |
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| 06:18.51 | xoz | firewall |
| 06:18.55 | epsilon | iptables |
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| 06:19.54 | epsilon | TiMiDo: what kind of audio file are you playing? (codec?) |
| 06:20.02 | TiMiDo | avi |
| 06:20.10 | epsilon | avi is only container |
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| 06:27.44 | mu-dev | maybe mplayer will say which codec it tried to find |
| 06:28.11 | TiMiDo | got it working |
| 06:28.12 | TiMiDo | anyways |
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| 06:32.46 | slidesinger | Anyone know how you go about filing a bug report for an installation issue where you don't get far enough to use the bug reporting tool? |
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| 06:35.34 | mu-dev | slidesinger: you could view bugs.debian.org/packagename |
| 06:35.56 | mu-dev | drop the maint an email |
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| 06:36.48 | mu-dev | you can also say what the problem is here |
| 06:39.06 | slidesinger | The problem is with debian-testing, the rc1 version of the netinst cd. The installer does not successfully configure the atheros (mad-wifi) nic, so the installation cannot continue. |
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| 06:39.20 | MOP | ky |
| 06:39.21 | MOP | 8) |
| 06:40.03 | slidesinger | The nic works fine when booted from the existing install, but not with the installer. I checked and can not find an "installer" package. |
| 06:40.09 | mu-dev | slidesinger: can you install the base only and restart without configuring? |
| 06:40.16 | Isil`Zha | is there a program to visually show the entropy of a search result within a large file? like having a file of a million lines and wanting to know which parts of the file actually contains the search string. enabling, for example, to see that between lines 10000 and 20000 there are 6000 matches. |
| 06:41.26 | mu-dev | Isil`Zha sounds pretty specific... you'd probably have to write it |
| 06:41.33 | simonrvn | slidesinger: debian-installer |
| 06:41.51 | Isil`Zha | mu-dev: eclipse does it actually. but it |
| 06:42.07 | Isil`Zha | mu-dev: 's unfortunately not capable of opening such a huge file |
| 06:42.50 | simonrvn | grep -n |
| 06:43.14 | Isil`Zha | yes but there are too many results to see anything from that |
| 06:43.28 | mu-dev | you could parse the result |
| 06:43.50 | simonrvn | yes.. post-process it |
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| 06:45.42 | slidesinger | I haven't tried as I really don't need to reimage my laptop. I was just testing the installer. It works fine on all 17 of the other boxes I have. I'll be getting a different wireless nic from a friend tomorrow, that will let me know whether it is the nic or the socket drivers. |
| 06:45.55 | slidesinger | simonrvn: Thanks. |
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| 06:47.14 | MOP | |-b| |
| 06:47.18 | MOP | :) |
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| 06:49.24 | mu-dev | slidesinger cool... these machines, any have the same nic model? |
| 06:51.52 | slidesinger | A lot of 3c905b-tx nics. I used to by them by the gross, well, the 100 pack. |
| 06:53.06 | mu-dev | slidesinger: how much were the packs? |
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| 06:54.33 | slidesinger | But some are athlons, some are p4, one dual proc xeon, one dual proc pIII. All with various chipsets. Only two laptops, though. Interestingly, the newer centrino laptop works fine, but the older crusoe based laptop does not. |
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| 06:55.34 | slidesinger | About $600 at the time, which was better than the $90 unit price I was seeing from the same vendor. I slapped them into many a server over the years. |
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| 07:15.27 | Crypticfortune | Ooo. Just found out about kFreeBSD. That's quite awesome. Going to have to try that out. |
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| 07:15.40 | Ujwal | hi all |
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| 07:22.19 | Overclock_Orange | Hi =) |
| 07:23.16 | Overclock_Orange | Debian I Love You |
| 07:25.35 | DGnome | Overclock_Orange: should we be afraid? :) |
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| 07:26.31 | Overclock_Orange | no... sorry my english is reality bad |
| 07:26.36 | Overclock_Orange | i'm a GNU/Linux user since 2000, and Debian user since 2003 |
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| 07:28.06 | mu-dev | Alam_Debian: where oranges are in love and sheep are frightened out of their wits... |
| 07:28.15 | sauvin | http://osnews.com/story/20549/Adobe_Releases_64-bit_Flash_for_Linux |
| 07:28.30 | mu-dev | oh cool... |
| 07:28.40 | mu-dev | I could consider going back there... |
| 07:29.26 | mu-dev | Overclock_Orange: cool. what are you running? |
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| 07:30.20 | Overclock_Orange | i'm running Debian Lenny |
| 07:30.22 | rebel_kid | in one particular folder in my svn can i auto-delete all files that arent there anymore and auto-add all new files/folders, doing all this by hand will be a real pain |
| 07:30.45 | mu-dev | rebel_kid: you mean in your repo? |
| 07:30.52 | rebel_kid | mu-dev, yes |
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| 07:31.44 | rebel_kid | mu-dev, is there one simple command or do i get to add/del 100 times |
| 07:32.14 | mu-dev | my initial gut reaction is, messing with the repo is not a good idea... maybe you mean something else? |
| 07:33.02 | mu-dev | have you checked out a tree? |
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| 07:35.52 | mu-dev | rebel_kid so, I'm not quite getting what you're after, and that may be because I don't have enough information yet |
| 07:37.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | it was not a "!smart question" |
| 07:37.46 | rebel_kid | mu-dev, i have a folder in my svn repo with other 50 files, i just did a major rewrite and many files were deleted, many added, etc, im looking to have svn auto add/del the whole folder |
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| 07:40.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | guess you could just delete the whole directory, then add everything? |
| 07:41.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | else, shouldnt be hard to script from svn diff |
| 07:41.13 | rebel_kid | ty |
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| 07:41.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | but I'e used svn much too little ... |
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| 07:43.26 | mu-dev | rebel_kid: (unix is really cool...) so can you get a list of the files you want to add? |
| 07:43.57 | mu-dev | maybe by comparing the files you have to the files on the repo |
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| 07:44.22 | mu-dev | get that list into a text file, preferably one per line |
| 07:44.54 | rebel_kid | mu-dev, i was looking for a simple command, i've done enough coding today, im just deleting the folder and adding again then commiting |
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| 07:45.17 | mu-dev | glad it worked out... |
| 07:45.35 | rebel_kid | ty |
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| 07:47.24 | n-iCe | Ok I give up |
| 07:47.44 | n-iCe | I can't install java in firefox, I had it in iceweasel! changed to firefox and isn't installed, and I can't, any good at? |
| 07:47.47 | stoned | hi |
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| 07:50.13 | stoned | n-iCe, where is your libjava.so something locateD? |
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| 07:50.27 | mu-dev | n-iCe: firefox isn't in latest debian, not by that name |
| 07:50.33 | stoned | iceweasel looks in ~/.mozilla/plugins and then inside /usr/share/lib/mozilla/plugin |
| 07:50.36 | stoned | something like that |
| 07:50.46 | stoned | if you installed the packages from debian for java |
| 07:50.57 | stoned | your IW probably detects the lib fine |
| 07:51.04 | stoned | but your custom firefox install maynot |
| 07:51.24 | stoned | you may simply need to link the libjava something .so inside ~/.mozilla/plugins |
| 07:51.34 | stoned | that MAY be the issue, I'm not sure |
| 07:51.38 | stoned | sounds a lot like it |
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| 07:52.21 | n-iCe | yeah |
| 07:52.40 | n-iCe | cd I have both /usr/bin/java /etc/java /usr/share/java |
| 07:52.43 | n-iCe | three |
| 07:52.47 | stoned | no |
| 07:52.48 | stoned | dude |
| 07:52.53 | stoned | the browser plugin |
| 07:52.55 | stoned | not java itself |
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| 07:53.05 | n-iCe | I know in which one is the pulgin |
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| 07:53.11 | scientes | why does my kernel build fail with -dirty in the verision ????????? |
| 07:53.21 | mu-dev | ok, show the full path |
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| 07:53.56 | stoned | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 41 2008-11-01 15:23 libjavaplugin.so -> /etc/alternatives/iceweasel-javaplugin.so |
| 07:54.08 | stoned | libjavaplugin is linked to an alternative beucase there are a few diff java you can use |
| 07:54.17 | stoned | Sun, or non-sun java |
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| 07:54.26 | n-iCe | libjavaplugin.so |
| 07:54.37 | mu-dev | and where did you find that |
| 07:54.38 | n-iCe | I have that in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins |
| 07:55.10 | mu-dev | ok, and what is happening that it doesn't work? also: look at about:plugins |
| 07:55.48 | stoned | n-iCe, yes |
| 07:55.55 | stoned | do you understand what I'm saying? |
| 07:55.59 | n-iCe | yes |
| 07:56.01 | stoned | is anything getting through? at all? |
| 07:56.03 | n-iCe | it ask me to install it |
| 07:56.08 | n-iCe | and is not in about:plugins |
| 07:56.11 | n-iCe | it doesn't even appears |
| 07:56.13 | stoned | of course its not |
| 07:56.18 | stoned | its not in your path |
| 07:56.20 | stoned | why would it load? |
| 07:56.38 | n-iCe | I would like to know the path :) |
| 07:56.45 | stoned | go to ~/.mozilla/plugins |
| 07:56.55 | n-iCe | that path doesn't even exist :) |
| 07:57.00 | stoned | so create it |
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| 07:57.11 | stoned | firefox will first look in ~/.mozilla/plugins |
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| 07:57.14 | n-iCe | done |
| 07:57.17 | stoned | if it finds a java, it will laod it |
| 07:57.26 | stoned | if not, it will check /usr/lib something, but thats only in firefox |
| 07:57.30 | stoned | er.. iceweasel config |
| 07:57.33 | mu-dev | if I find a java, I will drink it!\ |
| 07:57.35 | stoned | I'm not sure where firefox will load it |
| 07:57.45 | stoned | firefox keep in mind, is NOT supported officially in #debian |
| 07:57.50 | stoned | I'm doing my best to help you |
| 07:57.56 | stoned | you know the problem, just fix it |
| 07:58.12 | stoned | go to ~/.mozilla/plugins and ln -s the libjava.so file where ever it is |
| 07:58.21 | stoned | or simply ln -s /etc/alternatives/iceweasel-javaplugin.so |
| 07:58.35 | stoned | or remove the iceweasel and actually you know what |
| 07:58.47 | stoned | figure it out |
| 07:58.53 | stoned | I'm tired, you know what to do |
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| 07:59.03 | n-iCe | I removed iceweasel |
| 07:59.07 | n-iCe | long time ago, that's the problem |
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| 07:59.19 | stoned | no it isn't. |
| 07:59.50 | n-iCe | libjavaplugin.so is now in ~/.mozilla/plugins |
| 07:59.52 | n-iCe | didn't fix it |
| 08:00.23 | mu-dev | btw, is your firefox doing anything extra/different/better than iceweasel? |
| 08:00.41 | n-iCe | yeah |
| 08:00.45 | n-iCe | better |
| 08:00.49 | stoned | whats better? |
| 08:00.57 | mu-dev | what is it doing? |
| 08:01.04 | n-iCe | browsing joomla sites better |
| 08:01.11 | mu-dev | in what way? |
| 08:01.19 | n-iCe | iceweasel doesn't show joomlas sites borders that well |
| 08:01.26 | stoned | thats just dumb |
| 08:01.40 | mu-dev | if it doesn't, it doesn't... |
| 08:01.50 | stoned | its the same rendering engine... |
| 08:02.04 | mu-dev | how does joomla show a border? |
| 08:02.46 | n-iCe | wrong |
| 08:03.19 | stoned | http://www.sajaljavid.com/index.php/domestic-violence.html |
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| 08:03.24 | stoned | here is a joomla site I'm developing |
| 08:03.27 | stoned | does this show up ok? |
| 08:03.38 | stoned | I got firefox and iceweasel both and it looks the exact same to me |
| 08:03.43 | n-iCe | yes, because I am using firefox now :) |
| 08:03.49 | scientes | my kernel build is failing with -dirty in the version |
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| 08:07.47 | mu-dev | scientes: are you setting a version? |
| 08:08.13 | scientes | http://pastie.org/pastes/318529 |
| 08:08.31 | scientes | i set a versin but -00117-g7f0f598-dirty get appended and screwed it up |
| 08:08.42 | scientes | maybe i just need to turn off auto-version |
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| 08:13.49 | Bryanstein | Hey any of you guys used apt-cacher to install as a repo from netboot? |
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| 08:13.58 | Bryanstein | I keep getting bad mirror |
| 08:14.36 | SlimG | Is it straightforward to install etch or lenny on a software-raid1 set? |
| 08:15.14 | vaq | yes |
| 08:15.25 | mu-dev | most likely yes, if raid and the particular controller are both supported by the installer |
| 08:16.43 | SlimG | Mkay, thanks vaq and mu-dev, I'll give it a try with lenny |
| 08:16.56 | mu-dev | you should look at the install guide too |
| 08:18.16 | Bryanstein | man this sucks I can wget the Release file but the installer won't grab it |
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| 08:19.47 | SlimG | mu-dev: For raid1 specific info? or just general install-guidance? |
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| 08:20.23 | mu-dev | both, with the former taking priority... also note that a supported net card can make the install process smoother |
| 08:21.04 | mu-dev | your only storage is on the raid1? |
| 08:21.07 | a_l_e | hi. i'm trying to install subversion through aptitute. it deends on lbpq5, but i get an error: "http://ftp.ch.debian.org lennymain libpq5 8.3.4-2 [ERROR] 404 not found |
| 08:21.13 | a_l_e | ... is there any way around it? |
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| 08:21.46 | mu-dev | a_l_e: there must be a different versioned package for it.... |
| 08:21.55 | SlimG | mu-dev: Yes |
| 08:21.58 | mu-dev | get the new package list using apt-get update |
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| 08:22.23 | a_l_e | mu-dev: trying to update |
| 08:22.48 | mu-dev | that seem to be pulling in anything? |
| 08:23.31 | a_l_e | mu-dev: yes, it solved the problem! thanks! |
| 08:23.52 | SlimG | mu-dev: Won't there be a problem with the bootloader beeing installed at only one of the disks in the raid1 array? |
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| 08:30.01 | studeent | hi all who use gvim for coding on C++ ? |
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| 08:33.47 | Gm4n | I have a massive text file, and I need to delete some parts of it. vim chokes on it, and pico (as far as I know) has no equivalent to 22x. What can I use? |
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| 08:49.25 | Gokee2 | Hello all, when I try and start mythtv I get "Starting MythTV server: mythbackend /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend: line 38: 526 Segmentation fault start-stop-daemon --start --pidfile $RUNDIR/$NAME.pid --chuid $USER --nicelevel $NICE --exec $DAEMON -- $ARGS" Any idea why and/or how to fix it? The log file has nothing in it and the mythtv people think its some library thats wrong. I had it working but tried to start mythfrontend (after abou |
| 08:49.25 | Gokee2 | t a munth or two of not watching TV) and it told me the backend was down) Any ideas? Thanks |
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| 08:49.37 | zeno___ | i dont see unstable here, how to get? http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/ |
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| 08:51.25 | Overclock_Orange | Gokee2: your problem is a buffer overflow xD |
| 08:51.43 | Gokee2 | Overclock_Orange, Eh? |
| 08:51.58 | Overclock_Orange | because you put more dates into the stack of your memory |
| 08:52.06 | Overclock_Orange | sorry my english is very bad |
| 08:52.41 | hmann | where can i buy naked woman on the internets? |
| 08:52.45 | hmann | from china?? |
| 08:52.54 | hmann | or thailand |
| 08:53.34 | zeno___ | also why 5 dvds? http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/iso-dvd/ is there a simple instal cd? |
| 08:53.39 | Gokee2 | Overclock_Orange, More dates? How do I take some out? |
| 08:53.41 | TiMiDo | hmann, you have the wrong. channel. |
| 08:53.51 | hmann | where can i find the right? |
| 08:53.59 | TiMiDo | who knows |
| 08:54.05 | TiMiDo | try google. |
| 08:54.22 | hmann | i only found sex sites |
| 08:55.03 | Overclock_Orange | i dont know when say it in english |
| 08:55.14 | hmann | what? |
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| 08:55.42 | hmann | i give good money |
| 08:56.02 | Guerin | hmann: please fuck off and die |
| 08:56.04 | Gokee2 | Overclock_Orange, Hmm what command would I need to run to fix it? |
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| 08:56.14 | Guerin | (in a fire, preferably) |
| 08:56.18 | Overclock_Orange | is a error in the software Gokee2 |
| 08:56.39 | Overclock_Orange | in the software design |
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| 08:57.27 | Gokee2 | Overclock_Orange, But it use to work? and other people must not be having problems? |
| 08:57.45 | rjd_ | I have problems with timezones. I have servers that should be using Brazil (Sao_Paulo) localtime, hosted in europe. The time in Sao_Paulo is about 05:00, and yet "Wed Nov 19 09:54:49 BRST 2008". Can anyone tell me what I have missed? |
| 08:58.09 | Gokee2 | Overclock_Orange, SHould I downgrade to the etch version? |
| 08:58.30 | Overclock_Orange | i dont understand Gokee2 i speak only spanish |
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| 08:58.48 | anddam | hello |
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| 08:59.16 | Gokee2 | Overclock_Orange, Too bad, I am trying to learn spanish but really can`t say anything in it yet :( |
| 08:59.22 | anddam | I'm cleaning the system using debfoster, isn't there a "wider range" tool to select sets of related packages? |
| 08:59.26 | Overclock_Orange | Gokee2: :) |
| 08:59.43 | Overclock_Orange | Gokee2: my english is reallity bad, i'm teaching by the IRC channels |
| 08:59.44 | Overclock_Orange | xD |
| 08:59.59 | Overclock_Orange | i live in Argentina |
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| 09:00.10 | Gokee2 | Overclock_Orange, You english is WAY better then my spanish |
| 09:00.26 | Gokee2 | Overclock_Orange, Ah I see, is it nice there? |
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| 09:00.46 | anddam | You english are belong to us |
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| 09:01.36 | Overclock_Orange | jaja thjanks Gokee2 :) |
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| 09:02.05 | Overclock_Orange | yes Gokee2 is very Nice Argentina, is a great country |
| 09:02.07 | anddam | or is there a way to fall back to a minimal debian system? |
| 09:02.30 | fari0 | hi, i put the mount command in my server and get 4 times de same cifs partition mounted on the same directory, why it is happening? thanks for the help |
| 09:02.46 | jelly-home | rjd_: 09:54 was CET timezone; use eg. ntpdate to set the time |
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| 09:03.19 | Gokee2 | Overclock_Orange, Well I should really head to bed. I guess I won`t get mythtv working tonight :( Nice talking to you though, we should talk again |
| 09:03.57 | Overclock_Orange | Ok Gokee2 sweet dreams :) |
| 09:04.03 | anddam | jelly-home: lately I've been having issues with the cmos battery and I had to run ntpd service by hand, shouldn't it sync periodically by its own? |
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| 09:04.07 | Overclock_Orange | nice to chat with you |
| 09:04.25 | anddam | Gokee2: you should chat in #debian-offtopic tho' |
| 09:04.26 | jelly-home | rjd_: also, with a server it's best to make the hardware clock use UTC time |
| 09:04.29 | jelly-home | !utc |
| 09:04.29 | dpkg | methinks utc is Coordinated Universal Time http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utc ; In /etc/default/rcS set UTC appropriately, then run # /etc/init.d/hwclock.sh restart |
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| 09:05.42 | Gokee2 | Overclock_Orange, Buenas tardes, te vaya bien :) |
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| 09:06.52 | jelly-home | anddam: ntp daemons usually have limits, I _think_ the one from ntp package won't fix the time of it differs by more than 1800 seconds |
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| 09:07.46 | anddam | jelly-home: the time was like 8 hours late |
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| 09:09.45 | Gokee2 | anddam, Aye sorry |
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| 09:19.57 | anddam | again, is there a shortcut to go to a minimal system, like a fresh netinstall? |
| 09:20.04 | anddam | I mean from a running system |
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| 09:20.52 | jelly-home | it's called "reinstall" |
| 09:21.00 | Maliuta | or just "rm" |
| 09:21.27 | jelly-home | Maliuta: rm won't even get you there |
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| 09:21.54 | Maliuta | jelly-home: he didn't say _usable_ :) |
| 09:22.07 | Maliuta | you could start with rm -rf /usr |
| 09:22.07 | jelly-home | !smack Maliuta |
| 09:22.07 | dpkg | smacks Maliuta upside the head. |
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| 09:22.35 | Maliuta | people should be more specific about the questions they ask |
| 09:22.53 | jelly-home | we do not even joke with harmful command lines around here, this is grounds for a temp ban |
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| 09:23.17 | jelly-home | I'm SURE he wanted an unusable system! |
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| 09:23.28 | Maliuta | when did the fun get sucked out of IRC? |
| 09:24.11 | sk4 | anybody know how get working flashplugin 10 for lenny_x64? |
| 09:24.48 | Maliuta | sk4: use the debian-multimedia package flashplayer-mozilla |
| 09:25.05 | Maliuta | sk4: from experience ensure you purge anything else |
| 09:25.14 | jelly-home | Maliuta: fun yes, but not rm -rf / |
| 09:25.18 | simonrvn | you can have fun without hurting people |
| 09:25.19 | Maliuta | sk4: and shut down ff/iceweasle when you do it |
| 09:25.21 | anddam | jelly-home: not unusable |
| 09:25.33 | jelly-home | who'd have thought |
| 09:25.40 | Maliuta | jelly: /usr ... it's different |
| 09:25.41 | anddam | unless you call a fresh netinstall unusable |
| 09:26.05 | Maliuta | fresh netinstall is way beyond basic usable |
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| 09:26.58 | jelly-home | anddam: if you have a spare partition, you can install with debootstrap, set up the boot loader, reboot and move the stuff to the correct place |
| 09:27.57 | anddam | it's a headless machine, I'd like not to play with bootloader |
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| 09:28.18 | alexbobp | Hello. I migrated an old installation of mysql by replacing the /var/lib/mysql directory with the old one after installing. Now when I try to upgrade the server, Ubuntu is complaining that the debian-sys-maintenence account doesn't work, because I replaced the user tables and the password is different. Where can I look up what password ubuntu is using, so that I can update the mysql server? |
| 09:28.27 | anddam | headless machine means a standard pc without a monitor handy, so I couldn't use one even if I wanted |
| 09:28.39 | jelly-home | anddam: right; do this procedure on a machine you have console access to as it's easy to miss something and make the reboot fail |
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| 09:29.05 | jelly-home | anddam: you can set up grub and the kernel to output to a serial console |
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| 09:29.59 | anddam | jelly-home: the point is it has 3.2Gb root partition and in time I got lot of unused packages, rather than uninstalling one at time with debfoster I tought about "falling back" to a minimal system then reinstall only what I need |
| 09:30.24 | anddam | I eventually got 1.2G free atm so I'm fine with it |
| 09:30.28 | anddam | and have to go, thanks |
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| 09:33.58 | oOarthurOo | jion / ##linux-phc |
| 09:34.04 | oOarthurOo | oops.. sorry |
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| 09:35.05 | oOarthurOo | But hey... I'm writing this on my brand new, custom kernel. :D |
| 09:35.12 | oOarthurOo | Thanks room |
| 09:35.30 | sk4 | Maliuta: before installd |
| 09:35.34 | mu-dev | doesn't like butt hay |
| 09:36.02 | Maliuta | sk4: ???? |
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| 09:36.36 | sk4 | Maliuta: before installed flashplayer-mozilla i removed all flash plugins, but now i have no flash |
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| 09:37.38 | Maliuta | sk4: run nspluginwrapper -l |
| 09:37.55 | Maliuta | sk4: that should give you an idea of what plugins are registered |
| 09:38.14 | sk4 | nothing |
| 09:38.36 | Maliuta | sk4: riiiiight |
| 09:38.44 | Maliuta | sk4: something isn't installed then |
| 09:39.40 | Maliuta | sk4: dpkg -l tells you that flashplayer-mozilla is installed? |
| 09:40.06 | Maliuta | sk4: and ls confirms the the .so is in /usr/lib/flashplayer/ ???/ |
| 09:40.35 | sk4 | dpkg -l|grep flash |
| 09:40.35 | dpkg | sk4: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
| 09:40.37 | sk4 | ii flashplayer-mozilla 2:10.0.12.36-0.4 Macromedia Flash Player |
| 09:41.03 | Maliuta | sk4: don't paste here, try a pastebin |
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| 09:41.20 | sk4 | ok |
| 09:41.50 | Maliuta | sk4: you did restart the browser right? |
| 09:42.09 | sk4 | yes |
| 09:42.50 | sk4 | i have lib in /usr/lib/flashplayer |
| 09:43.08 | Maliuta | shutdown the browser, run 'nsplugwrapper -a' as root, and try again |
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| 09:43.40 | sk4 | all right |
| 09:44.12 | sk4 | i install .so with nspluginwrapper |
| 09:44.21 | Maliuta | FWIW 'nspluginwrapper -l' will give you an idea if it's going to be loaded before you start the browser |
| 09:44.22 | sk4 | Maliuta: thanks for help! |
| 09:44.26 | Maliuta | -a is automatic |
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| 09:45.51 | brainsoft | libfontconfig1: Depende: fontconfig-config (= 2.6.0-2) pero 2.6.0-3 va a ser instalado |
| 09:46.00 | brainsoft | how do I tell apt to install 2.6.0-2 instead of lastest? |
| 09:46.13 | meeero | i've got several systems with debian lenny up and running, but not all (just several) do mail reports from cronjobs to root. so root receives mails for cronjobs on some servers and on some not - all do have an existing /roo/Mail-directory and a running mailserver (same config) ... what could be the cause for this? |
| 09:46.20 | brainsoft | cos other pkgs need 0-2 and I have broken pkgs |
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| 09:47.10 | troubled | simonrvn: i can haz db lagg!!! |
| 09:47.14 | troubled | heya |
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| 09:50.38 | Agiofws | hello |
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| 09:53.14 | troubled | Agiofws: ! |
| 09:53.37 | mu-dev | meeero: check your email aliases |
| 09:54.49 | Agiofws | hi |
| 09:55.20 | meeero | they are all set to root |
| 09:55.28 | mu-dev | brainsoft: you have a mixed system (lenny + etch or something); this is why you have broken packages |
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| 09:55.38 | mu-dev | meeero: who gets root mail? |
| 09:55.46 | mu-dev | check your aliases |
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| 09:56.11 | meeero | and all mailserver-configs read the /etc/aliases file the same way |
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| 09:57.40 | mu-dev | any lines starting with root: |
| 09:57.43 | mu-dev | ? |
| 09:57.50 | scientes | can someone link me to the debian signing key |
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| 09:58.17 | scientes | it seems the best way to just use apt-build with debian repo when ubuntu gets behind |
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| 10:01.05 | jelly-home | scientes: which debian release are you using? version of kernel-package? anything weird in /etc/kernel-pkg.conf? |
| 10:01.38 | scientes | ubuntu, but thinking debian src would be a easy way to build with apt-build |
| 10:01.43 | troubled | scientes: pub 1024D/ADB11277 2006-09-17 Etch Stable Release Key <debian-release@lists.debian.org>? |
| 10:01.53 | jelly-home | scientes: generic key help: /msg dpkg no public key |
| 10:01.55 | brainsoft | mu-dev: how do I move to only sid ? |
| 10:02.01 | meeero | mu-dev: yes, postmaster: root |
| 10:02.04 | brainsoft | I can't dist-upgrade |
| 10:02.26 | meeero | well, not starting with root, but those servers (like all others) do have that single entry and do receive mails, the others don't |
| 10:02.30 | jelly-home | scientes: we have to idea what ubuntu has done to kernel-package; I don't remember it acting that way here |
| 10:02.36 | troubled | brainsoft: if you don't know how to deal with sid, you aren't ready for it :) |
| 10:02.38 | jelly-home | s/to/no/ |
| 10:02.43 | meeero | any ideas how i could test this directly without initiating cronjobs? |
| 10:02.58 | jelly-home | scientes: you'll have to ask #ubuntu about that version appendage |
| 10:03.00 | troubled | brainsoft: generally, sid help for someone not familiar with it isn't going to get any support either |
| 10:03.34 | scientes | well ill probably switch to debian eventually but for know a recompile of your shoud work, i dont think i have any need of compiling ubuntu kernels if it breaks that |
| 10:03.55 | jelly-home | scientes: we can't help you with ubuntu's kernel-package |
| 10:04.22 | scientes | yeah i was going to use yours |
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| 10:04.32 | OpenTokix | Why are people compiling kernels? |
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| 10:04.41 | jelly-home | hardware support, usually |
| 10:04.50 | OpenTokix | why dont people use modules? |
| 10:05.06 | jelly-home | those need compilation too |
| 10:05.20 | _coredump_ | moinsen |
| 10:05.34 | OpenTokix | jelly-home: yes, but pretty far from compiling kernel, to compile a module |
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| 10:06.05 | jelly-home | OpenTokix: backporting a module from eg. 2.6.27 to the distro 2.6.26 is probably more complicated than just building a new kernel image |
| 10:06.14 | OpenTokix | jelly-home: probably, yes |
| 10:06.20 | jelly-home | OpenTokix: compiling a kernel is easier |
| 10:06.32 | OpenTokix | jelly-home: yeah, then someone have insanely new hardware then |
| 10:06.44 | jelly-home | yes. made in, like 2007 or 2008. |
| 10:07.25 | OpenTokix | im running pretty decent stuff and I get along with etch most of the times, lenny on a few machines running a exotic raid-card |
| 10:07.40 | jelly-home | think laptops or netbooks |
| 10:07.52 | OpenTokix | ok |
| 10:08.01 | scientes | i think it might fix my suspend prob to compile the sata and filesystem support into the kernel maybe |
| 10:08.16 | scientes | drive completely offline after resume |
| 10:08.17 | OpenTokix | jelly-home: ah, you're right! laptop! |
| 10:08.49 | OpenTokix | jelly-home: just reminded myself why I only run os x on laptops =) |
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| 10:09.34 | jelly-home | meh, cheap trackpointless things you use |
| 10:10.08 | djdarkman | hello, I want to install Debian unstable, which CD/DVD image should I download? |
| 10:10.26 | OpenTokix | jelly-home: haha =) an ibm-man I assume - hehe |
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| 10:10.37 | OpenTokix | djdarkman: get lenny rc1, then dist-upgrade to sid |
| 10:10.44 | tuxcrafter | !mentor |
| 10:10.45 | dpkg | [mentors] the system that the Debian project uses to train new people to become Debian Developers or Debian Maintainers and get their packages into the Debian archive. Ask me about <nmg> or <mg>. Also see http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/ #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org, and http://mentors.debian.net/ |
| 10:10.45 | Lord^Anubis | i used to run debian sid..... i prefer arch linux now |
| 10:11.20 | jelly-home | OpenTokix: it's lenovo now :-| |
| 10:11.35 | OpenTokix | jelly-home: thinkpad-man then =) |
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| 10:20.36 | simon1245 | Can someone tell me how to download emerald on debian etch? |
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| 10:24.14 | therobot | I have a logrotate config that has 'daily' options, but my logs are not rotated daily, any clues? |
| 10:25.29 | simon1245 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:26.07 | ham5 | emeralds site |
| 10:26.15 | harpal | Hey I am trying to access windows shared folder, but problem is that some time I get authenticated and some time it dont authenticate :( |
| 10:26.40 | simonrvn | therobot: run logrotate manually, with -v option see what happens, then fix it. |
| 10:26.47 | simonrvn | AFK |
| 10:26.48 | simon1245 | I mean Emerald theme manager |
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| 10:27.46 | harpal | simon1245: I think its in aptitude, Just check out compiz site |
| 10:28.21 | simon1245 | Ok |
| 10:28.22 | simon1245 | Ty |
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| 10:29.20 | therobot | simonrvn: Well log has been rotated |
| 10:29.48 | simon1245 | harpal what is the name of their site? |
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| 10:30.29 | therobot | i don't understand why logrotated did not rotate the log when it was launched by crom just 5 hours ago |
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| 10:30.38 | JyZyXEL | dpkg-buildpackage: warning: Failed to sign .dsc and .changes file |
| 10:30.47 | JyZyXEL | whats this key thing anyways? |
| 10:30.58 | JyZyXEL | i always get warnings about thos |
| 10:31.38 | shinoj | hello peeps |
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| 10:32.15 | harpal | simon1245: Have you checked in aptitude? try searching in aptitude |
| 10:32.45 | harpal | simon1245: http://www.compiz-fusion.org/ |
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| 10:32.58 | simon1245 | I did |
| 10:33.05 | simon1245 | I just found a game |
| 10:35.04 | harpal | simon1245: I get it in aptitude. Its a package which is in aptitude. try aptitude search emerald |
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| 10:37.53 | simon1245 | harpal: I did |
| 10:38.12 | simon1245 | Can you paste your source list and send it to |
| 10:38.18 | simon1245 | Me so i also can edit mine |
| 10:38.24 | simon1245 | Because i just have few sentence there |
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| 10:39.22 | Overclock_Orange | simon1245: http://dpaste.com/92036/ |
| 10:39.41 | Overclock_Orange | it sources.list is only for debian lenny |
| 10:40.02 | harpal | simon1245: add deb http://ftp.iitm.ac.in/debian etch contrib main to your sources.list and update it then search |
| 10:40.08 | simon1245 | Ok |
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| 10:43.02 | simon1245 | updated |
| 10:43.04 | simon1245 | now i will search |
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| 10:43.30 | simon1245 | it's still updating :S |
| 10:43.32 | themill | wonders why a Swedish user would use an Indian mirror |
| 10:43.43 | pyrohotdog | How can I get a default sources.list? |
| 10:43.46 | simon1245 | Done |
| 10:44.11 | simon1245 | I can't find it:S |
| 10:44.15 | simon1245 | i just see the game |
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| 10:46.16 | simon1245 | What? |
| 10:46.23 | simon1245 | Who is swedish? |
| 10:47.01 | harpal | simon1245: Try adding deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/shames/debian-etch/desktopfx/snapshot/ ./ to your source.list and update then search |
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| 10:47.23 | themill | simon1245: well, you're IRCing from a Swedish IP. |
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| 10:48.03 | harpal | pyrohotdog: check your nearest mirror and update your source.list accordingly as themill said |
| 10:48.11 | simon1245 | Oh ok yes i'm in sweden |
| 10:48.41 | simon1245 | But how you know how i'm useing a indian thing |
| 10:48.41 | simon1245 | Ok |
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| 10:49.03 | harpal | wonders simon1245 dont know where he is |
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| 10:49.33 | pyrohotdog | harpal: how do I do that? |
| 10:49.42 | harpal | simon1245: What I gave you earlier is indian mirror for debian apt :D |
| 10:49.47 | simon1245 | Lol |
| 10:50.00 | simon1245 | Ok |
| 10:50.12 | gypsymauro | ho I can add the ctrl-z char in vi? |
| 10:50.12 | simon1245 | Are you from india |
| 10:50.30 | harpal | simon1245: yes |
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| 10:51.10 | themill | gypsymauro: Ctrl+V then Ctrl+Z |
| 10:51.27 | themill | pyrohotdog: /msg dpkg sources.list ; /msg dpkg apt-spy |
| 10:52.00 | simon1245 | Harpal; i'm from pakistan but i live in sweden :) |
| 10:53.13 | harpal | simon1245: Good :D |
| 10:53.13 | gypsymauro | themill: damn it stops vi :) |
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| 10:54.36 | simon1245 | Harpal: what to do now? |
| 10:55.28 | ham5 | hack |
| 10:55.32 | harpal | simon1245: have you add that to source.list and update your apt |
| 10:56.21 | simon1245 | look i got this E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. |
| 10:57.24 | simon1245 | Harpal: what to do now? |
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| 10:58.31 | harpal | simon1245: just search using aptitude |
| 10:58.48 | kryptoz | I have lenny installed on my desktop, I tried to open kismet to see the AP accessible and kismet is showing nothing in the list.. |
| 10:58.57 | simon1245 | Updating again :) |
| 10:59.05 | kryptoz | anyone has experience with kismet in debian ? |
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| 10:59.39 | simon1245 | Ok |
| 11:00.01 | simon1245 | I get this message when i start it |
| 11:00.18 | djdarkman | I'm downloading the lenny rc1 via torrent, but the tracker gives me an error: Requested download is not authorised by this tracker. |
| 11:00.22 | djdarkman | what should I do? |
| 11:00.50 | simon1245 | W: Couldn't start source package http://download.tuxfamily.org ./ package |
| 11:02.00 | harpal | simon1245: Ohoo Just add complete url to your source list. Not just http://download.tuxfamily.org ./ |
| 11:02.38 | harpal | simon1245: add deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/shames/debian-etch/desktopfx/snapshot/ ./ |
| 11:03.06 | simon1245 | (/var/lib/apt/list/downloads.tuxfamily.org_shames_debian-etch_desktopfx_snapshot_._packages) - start (2 no such file or directory) |
| 11:03.19 | simon1245 | I got longer message |
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| 11:05.23 | simon1245 | Not wroking |
| 11:05.56 | benner_ | Hi |
| 11:06.19 | harpal | simon1245: try adding http://paste2.org/p/103928 and check it |
| 11:06.20 | benner_ | Is there known date of next debian release? |
| 11:06.23 | simon1245 | Hi |
| 11:06.33 | simon1245 | harpal: It's not working :( |
| 11:06.45 | harpal | simon1245: This it different one |
| 11:06.51 | harpal | s/it/is |
| 11:07.04 | simon1245 | Ok |
| 11:07.12 | ham5 | rc1 just came out |
| 11:07.21 | simon1245 | What? |
| 11:07.22 | ham5 | what do you expect form debian |
| 11:07.23 | ham5 | damn |
| 11:07.24 | simon1245 | s/it/is? |
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| 11:07.58 | simon1245 | Maybe deb was the fault |
| 11:08.02 | simon1245 | I didn't have it on the start |
| 11:08.42 | djdarkman | why doesn't the tracker allow me to download the lenny rc1 dvd? |
| 11:08.47 | harpal | simon1245: ohh then put it |
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| 11:09.15 | jelly | djdarkman: eh, download it via http, it's going to be fast enough anyway |
| 11:09.47 | simon1245 | harpal: Put what? |
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| 11:10.25 | simon1245 | libemeraldengine-dev? |
| 11:10.25 | simon1245 | I got that one when i searched |
| 11:10.44 | harpal | simon1245: hey copy and paste what I have given to you in a http://paste2.org/p/103928 to sources.list |
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| 11:11.35 | TheInfinity | hello ... do you know how to modify mails sent by hylafax? |
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| 11:11.59 | TheInfinity | i can attach the fax as pdf, but i dont find any options to modify the mail |
| 11:12.12 | simon1245 | Untrusted versions is going to be allowed what to press really continue or "abort installation" |
| 11:12.18 | simon1245 | I did |
| 11:12.45 | simon1245 | Harpal: can i private you? |
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| 11:13.15 | JarJarBinks | say I have just overwritten my /etc/apache2/apache2.conf ... how do I restore this file. I tried dpkg-reconfigure apache2. and apt-get --reinstall install apache2 but I've had no luck |
| 11:13.21 | ham5 | private these |
| 11:13.42 | ham5 | hope u have a backup JarJarBinks |
| 11:14.00 | jelly | JarJarBinks: /msg dpkg confmiss |
| 11:14.01 | JarJarBinks | luckily I still have my virtual host conf file |
| 11:14.04 | petemc | TheInfinity: look in the templates folder |
| 11:14.08 | JarJarBinks | jelly: thanks |
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| 11:15.10 | gypsymauro | there is a repository of sarge? |
| 11:15.14 | TheInfinity | petemc: ok. i should have a better look at /etc folders, i searched at hylafax site, but ... thanks :) |
| 11:16.16 | jelly | gypsymauro: archive.debian.org |
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| 11:18.59 | JarJarBinks | thinks of the consequences of a single character when :w is used instead of :e /etc/apache2/apache2.conf |
| 11:19.47 | JarJarBinks | but now I have a backup of my /etc/hosts file :) |
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| 11:24.32 | Borbus | I'm messing around with forwarding X11 through SSH (over the internet) to draw windows on my local box... but it's slow as hell, it's not using much network traffic, is this normal or should X through SSH be ok over the internet? |
| 11:25.00 | Maliuta | Borbus: use RDP or vnc |
| 11:25.19 | Borbus | The other box isn't mine |
| 11:25.27 | Maliuta | Borbus: are you trying to display and X desktop on a windows box? |
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| 11:25.42 | Borbus | No.. the other box is a sun box actually.. I run debian |
| 11:26.44 | Maliuta | Borbus: so compile and install the vnc server in your home dir |
| 11:26.44 | Borbus | Just using ssh -XC box and then running e.g. emacs & |
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| 11:26.44 | Maliuta | Borbus: you can do that on a multi-user system |
| 11:26.52 | Maliuta | Borbus: X uses way too much bandwidth to consider using ssh forwarding (even compressed) over a WAN |
| 11:27.13 | jelly | Borbus: network latency and ssh will slow things down, assuming you don't have bw issues |
| 11:27.18 | Maliuta | not to say I haven't done single apps that way (with a 28.8kb/s modem) |
| 11:27.44 | Maliuta | if you _must_ use ssh for any part of the connection turn on the compression |
| 11:27.51 | Borbus | Yeah.. I can compile stuff in my own home.. I'm not going to bother with VNC though.. this was just to mess around.. seems weird though since I'm on a 10mbit connection.. I'm sure X doesn't use *that* much |
| 11:28.11 | Borbus | I am using compression already with -C |
| 11:28.29 | jelly | Borbus: try disabling compression. ;-) Check ssh CPU usage on the sun box. |
| 11:28.42 | Borbus | Hmm.. yeah sun box is pretty slow and contended.. |
| 11:29.01 | Borbus | I'm probably pissing a lot of people off actually :P |
| 11:29.02 | jelly | Borbus: also try blowfish cipher for ssh |
| 11:29.53 | Borbus | -c blowfish-cbc ? |
| 11:30.14 | jelly | it was just blowfish last time I looked |
| 11:30.30 | maurizio | I am moving users from one etch install to another one. Is there something besides /etc/passwd, /etc/shadow, /etc/group, /var/spool/cron/crontabs and /home that I should copy from the old install? |
| 11:30.36 | Borbus | load average: 1.00, 0.55, 0.38 |
| 11:30.37 | Borbus | heh. |
| 11:30.43 | jelly | that's not a lot |
| 11:30.55 | Borbus | blowfish-cbc is the only option in man page |
| 11:31.02 | Borbus | I think it only has 1 CPU |
| 11:31.33 | Borbus | How do you get the cpu info on sunOS? |
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| 11:31.54 | jelly | psrinfo -v |
| 11:32.32 | jelly | /usr/sbin/psrinfo, to be more precise |
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| 11:33.20 | Borbus | 4 x sparcv9 at 1.2GHz :| |
| 11:33.39 | Borbus | So it's not a cpu issue on that end |
| 11:33.47 | Borbus | Must be bandwidth on that end then |
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| 11:34.08 | Borbus | emacs is pretty responsive with blowfish now |
| 11:34.17 | dustybin | I have a serious issue with my Audiophile 2496 soundcard and ALSA, i have created this report and sent it to ALSA http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=5b153b14cff8c439b2191e637e91f2d00554420e is there anything else i should do? The problem occured when i did a big lenny update yesteray |
| 11:34.17 | Borbus | I'm really trying to run matlab |
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| 11:35.02 | Wiz_KeeD | anyone know where port forwarding in debian is done? |
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| 11:35.50 | Borbus | Also keys like backspace, return etc. don't work.. but this is a bit off topic :) |
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| 11:36.17 | petemc | Wiz_KeeD: you can put your iptables script anywhere you please |
| 11:36.47 | dustybin | oh its already been reported: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=499188 |
| 11:37.22 | Wiz_KeeD | i can't find it :(( |
| 11:37.36 | dustybin | if something is fixed upstream, what does that mean? |
| 11:38.02 | petemc | Wiz_KeeD: there is no it, it doesnt exist until you create it |
| 11:38.25 | bonsaikitten | dustybin: it means the people who actually maintain the software have added a fix |
| 11:38.41 | dustybin | bonsaikitten: does the fix first go in unstable? |
| 11:38.42 | Wiz_KeeD | it is created for 2 pc's |
| 11:38.43 | enouf | dustybin: it means the alsa maintainers/people have fixed it |
| 11:38.47 | Wiz_KeeD | i just need to add a few lines for my lappy |
| 11:38.53 | bonsaikitten | enouf: depends :) |
| 11:39.30 | jelly | Borbus: it is offtopic. find where /usr/share/X11/XKeysymDB is on the solaris box (or copy it over there and export XKEYSYMDB=/path/to/XKeysymDB), that might help |
| 11:39.32 | enouf | hands petemc a spoon |
| 11:39.45 | petemc | ive already got a spork |
| 11:39.50 | enouf | heh |
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| 11:40.11 | enouf | dustybin: iinm, there are alsa specific channels |
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| 11:40.15 | jduggan | hey all, has anyone here used ocfs on debian? |
| 11:41.05 | Wiz_K33D | help :( |
| 11:41.08 | enouf | dustybin: because alsa is so intermingled throughout the kernel, it might even mean upstream as in kernel version |
| 11:41.21 | dustybin | eek bloody heck |
| 11:41.28 | dustybin | that means no mythtv until its fixed :( |
| 11:41.35 | enouf | ... |
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| 11:42.41 | v3gard | i'm trying to install slapd, but i'm missing /etc/ldap/schema/core.schema |
| 11:42.49 | v3gard | what's the name of the package that contains this file? |
| 11:43.00 | dustybin | enouf: i could compile alsa-utils myself for now maybe? |
| 11:43.01 | enouf | do /msg dpkg apt-file |
| 11:43.23 | enouf | dustybin: sure, you can always "compile" whatever you like ;-) |
| 11:43.39 | dustybin | aye ill give it a shot |
| 11:43.49 | enouf | dustybin: but wait .. |
| 11:44.19 | enouf | dustybin: you're using lenny? does sid's (or experimental's) version have the fix? |
| 11:44.32 | dustybin | im not sure, i dont like mixing up repos |
| 11:44.42 | dustybin | all hell would break lose |
| 11:44.51 | enouf | dustybin: /msg dpkg simple sid backport <-- not mixing up repos |
| 11:45.15 | dustybin | interesting |
| 11:45.23 | enouf | dustybin: you basically take newer software that's been debianized and compile it |
| 11:45.29 | enouf | and make your own package |
| 11:45.45 | dustybin | enouf: you clever sod :) |
| 11:46.11 | enouf | thinks he deserves a pony ;-) |
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| 11:46.29 | Borbus | Hmm between this and my other fast debian box on a 100mbit connection X is fast but a bit laggy |
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| 11:47.04 | amphi | enouf: how about a 'Freedom Membership'? ;) |
| 11:47.23 | enouf | amphi: only if i can lobotomize Joe ;-) |
| 11:47.26 | jelly | Borbus: that's about the best you can get with ssh+xforwarding |
| 11:47.36 | v3gard | never mind, figured out that I had to do a apt-get remove --purge slapd |
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| 11:48.02 | jelly | Borbus: if you're on a trusted network, you could log to a remote machine via XDMCP |
| 11:48.27 | dustybin | enouf: Add ONLY a "deb-src ..." line for sid to your sources.list. <-- should i keep all the lenny testing repos active and just add that sid sources line ? |
| 11:48.48 | enouf | http://www.psc.edu/networking/projects/hpn-ssh/ so .. when do we get to have HPN? |
| 11:48.59 | enouf | dustybin: yep |
| 11:49.05 | dustybin | aye up :) |
| 11:49.35 | enouf | dustybin: i gotta run - take care |
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| 11:51.44 | Borbus | Wow.. I actually got spikes of 10mbit/s... well that was fun but useless :P |
| 11:53.15 | Borbus | I tried FreeNX ages ago but couldn't get it to work |
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| 11:55.30 | dustybin | even the sid alsa-utils didnt work, this is what happens when i restart it |
| 11:55.33 | dustybin | Setting up ALSA...warning: 'alsactl restore' failed with error message 'alsactl: set_control:1300: incompatible field type for control #6 |
| 11:55.36 | dustybin | alsactl: set_control:1300: incompatible field type for control #35'...done. |
| 11:55.51 | dustybin | im doomed :( |
| 11:56.17 | Borbus | dustybin: you're not using pulseaudio are you? |
| 11:57.06 | dustybin | im using alsa-base alsa-utils alsa-oss |
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| 11:58.05 | dustybin | Borbus: libpulse0 is installed, but not sure why |
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| 11:59.29 | K_Sakura | Does anyone have any idea why I'd have to reinstall oss-compat every time I reboot? (in order to be able to use aumix) |
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| 11:59.42 | Borbus | alsa-utils includes envy24 contorl right? |
| 11:59.55 | dustybin | im unsure |
| 12:00.27 | Borbus | Run envy24control |
| 12:00.51 | dustybin | command not found |
| 12:01.55 | Borbus | Hmm |
| 12:02.31 | K_Sakura | (It wouldn't matter, that aumix doesn't work (complains about various things, including the presence of alsa settings), except that I use my computer as an alarm clock -- and I use a command line to set the alarm. ("sleep <hours>;aumix -L")) |
| 12:02.50 | Borbus | You need envy24control to use m-audio cards |
| 12:02.54 | Borbus | I have the M1010LT |
| 12:03.10 | dustybin | Borbus: what package contains that? |
| 12:03.21 | Borbus | Not sure, I thought it was alsa-utils |
| 12:03.22 | dustybin | Borbus: my card worked ok before i did a update |
| 12:04.04 | Borbus | Ahh alsa-tools-gui |
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| 12:04.22 | Borbus | Well.. envy24control mgiht not solve your issue but you want to have it for when you do anyway :) |
| 12:05.45 | dustybin | this is interesting |
| 12:05.48 | dustybin | http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/alsa-utils/ |
| 12:06.09 | dustybin | sid gave me 1.0.16-2 |
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| 12:06.23 | dustybin | i might download 1.0.18 deb and manually install it |
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| 12:08.20 | dustybin | not a good idea, lots of dependency problems |
| 12:08.41 | dustybin | blast :( |
| 12:09.06 | dustybin | i suffering from 1 of those 156 remaining bugs lol |
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| 12:16.21 | mikem` | hi, running vimdiff I'm told vim was not comiled with the diff feature. I can't find a vimdiff, vim-diff or vim-vimdiff package... how can I install vimdiff? |
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| 12:17.25 | petemc | fax:~# readlink -f $(which vimdiff) |
| 12:17.25 | petemc | /usr/bin/vim.basic |
| 12:17.56 | mikem` | petemc: aah, I have vim.tiny |
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| 12:18.09 | mikem` | is a debian novice |
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| 12:18.14 | mikem` | petemc: thanks for the pointer |
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| 12:19.14 | mikem` | petemc: so do I want vim-full? |
| 12:19.20 | K_Sakura | feels ignored |
| 12:19.24 | maurizio | quit |
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| 12:19.52 | amphi | !comfort K_Sakura |
| 12:19.52 | dpkg | There, there, K_Sakura. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 12:20.28 | mikem` | hm, vim-full pulls in X, not usefull on a headless server :( |
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| 12:21.06 | amphi | vim-full includes gvim? |
| 12:21.36 | mikem` | amphi: it pulls in vim-gnome |
| 12:21.48 | mikem` | as well as vim-gui-common |
| 12:21.55 | egoleo | hello, i want to build a server with debian |
| 12:22.01 | egoleo | any help or docs |
| 12:22.05 | egoleo | or any advice |
| 12:22.12 | egoleo | someone can do for me? |
| 12:22.29 | trifler | egoleo: Decide which services you want. that's about it :) |
| 12:22.40 | egoleo | i want to build a dns, router, web, mail using exim |
| 12:22.56 | egoleo | +mailman |
| 12:24.05 | trifler | egoleo: and apart from exim do you know what you want to use for the rest? |
| 12:24.24 | egoleo | how do u mean |
| 12:24.32 | egoleo | as in webmail or that |
| 12:25.07 | egoleo | is my first job as system admin |
| 12:25.07 | trifler | egoleo: It's just that It seems to me you know what you want. So what's stopping you? :) |
| 12:25.09 | K_Sakura | Heh. Anyway, some 'recent' change -- I'm not sure what (probably while I was awking X while trying to fix it), broke oss-compat (in such a way that I have to reinstall it every time I reboot), (before I do so /dev/dsp is missing and aumix won't work. aumix complains about the presence of alsa mixer settings. |
| 12:25.18 | egoleo | so i need to do good work on probation |
| 12:26.10 | amphi | K_Sakura: snd_pcm_oss isn't loaded automatically? |
| 12:26.17 | egoleo | any docs will be appreaciated |
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| 12:26.48 | nirupama | how can i create swap space from terminal if i have free space |
| 12:26.51 | amphi | egoleo: debian-administration.org may be of use |
| 12:26.55 | nirupama | what is the command |
| 12:27.05 | egoleo | great |
| 12:27.06 | egoleo | thnx |
| 12:27.15 | amphi | egoleo: the debian reference also, and much useful info is at tldp.org, some of it quite ancient |
| 12:27.21 | egoleo | and which version would u recommend |
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| 12:27.42 | K_Sakura | I don't know if it loads automatically. |
| 12:28.07 | amphi | egoleo: usually, people run stable on servers, but lenny is quite 'close' to release... |
| 12:28.27 | amphi | K_Sakura: does lsmod show it loaded after boot? |
| 12:28.31 | egoleo | so when is it been release |
| 12:28.36 | egoleo | so maybe i wait for it |
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| 12:28.56 | egoleo | i heard debian uses old packages |
| 12:29.23 | maligor | egoleo, what's that supposed to mean? |
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| 12:30.08 | amphi | egoleo: check the versions of stuff you want to use in etch; if they do what you need, why would you need a newer version? |
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| 12:30.41 | egoleo | oh was just asking |
| 12:30.45 | egoleo | as in what i have heard |
| 12:30.46 | egoleo | cool |
| 12:30.47 | egoleo | thnx |
| 12:30.50 | amphi | egoleo: there are also backports of newer packages for stable, should you need such; I don't know how good an idea they are on an exposed server though |
| 12:31.08 | egoleo | ok |
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| 12:33.21 | K_Sakura | egoleo: I see snd_pcm_oss loaded currently, but I can't find log entry to tell me when it was. |
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| 12:33.58 | egoleo | have u checked ur syslog |
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| 12:36.09 | v3gard | what's the name of the package that contains /etc/ldap/ldap.conf ? |
| 12:37.45 | K_Sakura | syslog, kern.log, etc, and no entries I could see. |
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| 12:44.30 | SlimG | Is there a command to make the activity-light for a unconnected RJ45 port on a NIC blink? so I quickly can identify the nics with their alias (eth1, eth2, eth3 etc.) |
| 12:44.47 | SlimG | Like: $ nicledblink eth3 |
| 12:45.00 | e81 | mii-tool |
| 12:45.08 | e81 | oh wait |
| 12:45.10 | e81 | no, sorry. |
| 12:45.37 | e81 | it wont make em blink, but it comes in handy to identify with the -w switch |
| 12:46.00 | SlimG | e81: better than nothing, thanks for the tip |
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| 12:53.13 | adb | gnome-nettool, /sbin/ifconfig -a |
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| 12:59.24 | rebecka | I have no firewire port and have connecte a camera with an adapter over usb.. how would I go about creating a device for ex. kino to grab from? |
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| 13:04.38 | rebecka | google seems to give nothing on the subject of using firewire devices over usb under GNU-Linux... is there even a way to do this? |
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| 13:05.10 | simon1245 | How to fix my computer sound on debian it's not working :( |
| 13:05.18 | OpenTokix | rebecka: huh? Is that even possible? |
| 13:05.27 | hmann | rm -rf / as root |
| 13:05.38 | petemc | that'll get you kicked |
| 13:05.44 | hmann | ok |
| 13:05.51 | hmann | :C |
| 13:06.26 | rebecka | OpenTokix: since there are such adaptors I would assume so; but I wouldn't be certain... |
| 13:07.01 | valdyn | rebecka: why should it be any different than plugging in a native usb device? |
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| 13:08.19 | rebecka | valdyn: I have no idea.. but "kino" wants an firewire device (IEEE1394) and also plugging it in seems to give no reaction in dmesg... |
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| 13:09.05 | valdyn | rebecka: id think such an adaptor only works for storage devices |
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| 13:09.16 | simon1245 | How do i fix my sound on the computer? |
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| 13:10.14 | valdyn | rebecka: or for one specific type of device, otherwise they need an additional driver or a translation layer in hardware, a different one for every different kind of device |
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| 13:10.36 | rebecka | valdyn: I too find that quite possible... damn. |
| 13:10.42 | simon1245 | What are you trying to do Rebecka? |
| 13:11.29 | amphi | !alsa checklist |
| 13:11.30 | dpkg | 1) run alsaconf as root 2) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out and log in again) 3) use alsamixer and unmute channels and raise levels (also try muting some channels) 4) arts or esound stopped? 5) OSS modules unloaded? 6) speakers on? 7) modprobe snd-pcm-oss 8) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? Test your sound with aplay and a wav so codec issues don't confuse the situation. <list alsa users> |
| 13:11.32 | rebecka | simon1245: capture from a dv camera to my non-firewire equipped debian box... |
| 13:11.36 | amphi | simon1245: ^^^ |
| 13:11.44 | simon1245 | Ok |
| 13:11.49 | simon1245 | rebecka: Är du svesk? |
| 13:11.54 | simon1245 | svensk* |
| 13:12.49 | rebecka | simon1245: ja.. |
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| 13:12.57 | valdyn | rebecka: is that thing just a cable? |
| 13:13.10 | simon1245 | rebecka: Ok är du tjej? på riktigt? |
| 13:13.13 | rebecka | valdyn: indeed. |
| 13:13.38 | valdyn | rebecka: i see here it could be possible that your camera could send usb signal over firewire connector |
| 13:13.40 | rebecka | simon1245: not the place for that discussion |
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| 13:13.58 | simon1245 | rebecka: Ok :) |
| 13:14.05 | valdyn | rebecka: thats the only way a pure cable could help you |
| 13:14.14 | rebecka | valdyn: define "here" please |
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| 13:14.27 | valdyn | http://www.slashcam.de/info/Firewire-auf-USB-Adapter-zum-Anschluss-eines-Camcorders-an-den-PC-196198.html |
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| 13:15.20 | valdyn | rebecka: a real firewire port is not more expensive than such a cable btw |
| 13:15.33 | kasimon | Is there a sprecific reason that dh_make does not offer to package binary-indep packages by default? |
| 13:15.44 | simon1245 | Someone help me plz i can't hear anything :( |
| 13:16.22 | amphi | simon1245: have you done the things the bot suggested? |
| 13:16.32 | simon1245 | Which things? |
| 13:16.44 | simon1245 | I haven't get any either |
| 13:17.10 | amphi | !tell simon1245 -about alsa checklist |
| 13:17.21 | rebecka | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:17.28 | simon1245 | Amphi: I will look at it |
| 13:17.40 | amphi | that's very good of you |
| 13:17.46 | rebecka | valdyn thank you by the way! |
| 13:17.51 | simon1245 | Ty for it |
| 13:18.41 | kasimon | Oh, that's #209231 already. |
| 13:19.25 | kasimon | That Bug's from 2003 :-( |
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| 13:21.08 | neekofab | anyone know of a tool to examine partitions (on LVM) in Lenny? I, um formated an ext3 partion on LVM2 and can |
| 13:21.21 | neekofab | 't recall the last time I backed it up. :) |
| 13:22.21 | valdyn | neekofab: uh? |
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| 13:22.53 | valdyn | !!wayttd neekofab |
| 13:22.56 | themill | kasimon: dh-make is only intended to help you with the start of the packaging process. You need to mess with it anyway, especially since arch-indep stuff tends to be pretty variable in how the source is packaged and installed (make install rarely features in arch indep stuff) |
| 13:22.58 | valdyn | !wayttd neekofab |
| 13:22.59 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, neekofab? |
| 13:23.03 | neekofab | there are forensic tools that you can use recover data on disks.. but none that I know of work for partitions on lvm |
| 13:23.16 | valdyn | neekofab: uh? |
| 13:23.25 | valdyn | neekofab: you deleted the volumes? |
| 13:23.29 | neekofab | yep |
| 13:23.46 | valdyn | neekofab: you have a backup of the layout in /etc/lvm/ |
| 13:24.39 | neekofab | the lvm layout is fine. I formated the ext3 partition that was on lvm... just wanted to know if there is anyway to get the data back from prior to the ext3 format |
| 13:24.59 | valdyn | neekofab: so you didnt delete any volume? |
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| 13:25.22 | neekofab | correct. no volume deletion, just an ext3 format |
| 13:25.28 | Always | #vgdisplay |
| 13:25.33 | valdyn | neekofab: it does not make a difference for a tool if the volume is a partition or an lvm volume or a plain file or whatever |
| 13:25.54 | valdyn | neekofab: so which tool is not working? |
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| 13:26.32 | neekofab | this all sits on luks. :) |
| 13:26.34 | kasimon | themill: you're right, but at leasts the targets of the rules file and the control file entry for the package could be set. |
| 13:27.05 | hmann | http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/4500/img0087cv8.jpg |
| 13:27.07 | themill | kasimon: true |
| 13:27.11 | hmann | this is me and my new girlfriend |
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| 13:27.17 | valdyn | neekofab: so? |
| 13:27.38 | kasimon | themill: i guess that calls for a patch. man i hate fixing ugly perl scripts ;-) |
| 13:27.41 | themill | hmann: we've been here before. Please stop spamming this channel with random crap. You might like to try #debian-offtopic or #defocus |
| 13:27.43 | valdyn | neekofab: all this is irrelevant |
| 13:27.44 | hmann | does anyone want to buy her underwear? |
| 13:27.49 | hmann | ->query<- |
| 13:27.51 | valdyn | neekofab: a volume is a volume |
| 13:28.07 | bolt-wor1 | underwear == profit |
| 13:28.08 | bolt-wor1 | everyone knows that |
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| 13:28.31 | valdyn | neekofab: or are you saying that you didnt format your filesystems volume but the underlying crypted luks device? |
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| 13:28.46 | rebel_kid | i deleted a folder in my svn repo, all the files were deleted but the folder remains, of course if i delete manually it comes back every update, how can i delete it? |
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| 13:29.09 | kasimon | rebel_kid: svn rm FOLDER |
| 13:29.57 | ^shark_1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:30.08 | rebel_kid | thought that is what i did, kasimon, guess i ran an update before commiting |
| 13:30.16 | ^shark_1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:30.29 | ^shark_1 | i had to re-write all my rules |
| 13:30.32 | ^shark_1 | any advice |
| 13:30.43 | neekofab | valdyn I was upgrading from i386 to amd64, and didn't unselect the noformat on install for ext3. the raid/luks/lvm2 was left alone |
| 13:31.05 | valdyn | neekofab: i dont see your problem |
| 13:31.48 | valdyn | neekofab: maybe you need to figure out your raid layout? your luks layout and the lvm2 layout? |
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| 13:32.20 | valdyn | neekofab: the raid can be assembled automagically, the luks i know nothing about, but i guess you do, the lvm2 volume group can be assembled autmagically just the same |
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| 13:33.11 | neekofab | valdyn I guess I am not communicating this well. the raid is ok, the luks is ok. the lvm is ok. the ext3 is ok. but I formated the ext3. is it possible to get the data back from the ext3 format |
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| 13:33.45 | valdyn | neekofab: maybe |
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| 13:33.50 | neekofab | valdyn nothing was recreated. only the ext3 part. was formated |
| 13:34.08 | neekofab | valdyn ideas on where to look for a solution? |
| 13:34.21 | valdyn | neekofab: try testdisk, try to google for the backup superblock of the ext3 fs ( where it might be located ) |
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| 13:34.45 | valdyn | neekofab: then you could fsck or mount using that backup superblock |
| 13:34.52 | neekofab | valdyn danke |
| 13:34.54 | valdyn | neekofab: your data is untouched if you only formatted |
| 13:35.26 | neekofab | valdyn that's what I was thinking... but I'm not up on block-level stuff |
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| 13:36.34 | neekofab | valdyn and I hadn't fixed up backup since moving to luks as bacula doesn't really do encryption the way I like, and I hadn't had time to check out amanda yet. /sigh :) |
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| 13:39.09 | Tapout | Anyone know what the doc to read is about large-* something when relating to really old hardware and installing lenny? I installed lenny, asked about large-memory or large-something for lilo. Said 'yes' but i selected no after reading the docs. Later on it said "Don't reboot"... and it scrolled by. Unfortunately, my client wont' let me scroll up |
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| 13:42.36 | pkcahier | how can one find what process generates a burst of io request and then goes back to sleep... I'm noticing in my dstat that the iowait suddenly bursts every once in a while, but I have many process running and it's hard to find out which is causing that |
| 13:42.57 | petemc | echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/block_dump ; tail -f /var/log/debug | grep -Ev '(kjournald|pdflush|syslogd)' |
| 13:43.09 | pkcahier | thanks! |
| 13:43.38 | petemc | that creates large log files fairly quickly, so echo 0 into in when you're done |
| 13:43.43 | pkcahier | ok |
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| 13:44.43 | SnarceZ | hi all |
| 13:46.04 | SnarceZ | could it be that if my laptopt has a better wireless reception on windows than debian is a matter of the driver I use? |
| 13:46.29 | amphi | or windows lies ;) |
| 13:46.45 | SnarceZ | ^_^ |
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| 13:47.07 | amphi | or do see any real symptoms of worse reception |
| 13:47.09 | amphi | ? |
| 13:48.17 | SnarceZ | the card is a Atheros AR928X on an ASUS X59SL... and I had to install it manually... |
| 13:48.51 | amphi | compat-wireless? |
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| 13:49.44 | SnarceZ | sorry but a i don' think I'm understanding.... -_- |
| 13:50.02 | pkcahier | nothing appeared in /var/log/debug petemc |
| 13:50.11 | SnarceZ | U're asking me the drive name? |
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| 13:51.32 | petemc | pkcahier: works here, what kernel version? |
| 13:51.48 | pkcahier | Linux saber.kawaii-shoujo.net 2.6.27.3 |
| 13:52.04 | petemc | pkcahier: and if you just do tail -f /var/log/debug ? |
| 13:52.10 | pkcahier | I did htat first |
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| 13:52.15 | pkcahier | there's just nothing in it |
| 13:52.20 | pkcahier | maybe there's a kernel option for it... |
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| 13:52.34 | petemc | fax:~# tail -n1 /var/log/debug |
| 13:52.35 | petemc | Nov 19 13:33:50 fax kernel: pdflush(23929): WRITE block 10748480 on ida/c0d0p1 |
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| 13:52.42 | petemc | its enabled on debian kernels |
| 13:52.49 | pkcahier | mmm, I'll compare then. |
| 13:52.51 | xaprex | hi all |
| 13:52.56 | pkcahier | also... what can cause iptables to reset? |
| 13:53.07 | pkcahier | I'm noticing that all the rules I added disappear here and there |
| 13:53.10 | pkcahier | everytime I readd them. |
| 13:53.13 | petemc | iptables -F -X |
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| 13:53.28 | pkcahier | I meant more like what service/process |
| 13:53.35 | jerojasro | hi all. do any of you have any problems with kpdf on unstable? |
| 13:53.54 | jerojasro | I'm getting some "library not found" errors |
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| 13:53.58 | petemc | pkcahier: im not aware of any service that would intermittently delete iptables rules |
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| 13:54.23 | dustybin | i have found a fix to a problem i was having with alsa and my audiophile 2496 soundcard, where could one post the fix? |
| 13:54.26 | mu-dev | jerojasro: you need to do first what all unstable users do when a problem is found, and especially when asking if someone else has a problem: check the bts |
| 13:54.50 | mu-dev | that will directly answer your question |
| 13:55.03 | jerojasro | I'm a bit of a newcomer to debian. what is the bts? bug tracking system? |
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| 13:55.06 | jerojasro | where is it? |
| 13:55.16 | mu-dev | !bts |
| 13:55.16 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. Useful for unstable and testing: aptitude install apt-listbugs <apt-listchanges> . |
| 13:55.19 | jerojasro | checks the channel topic, to be on the safe side |
| 13:55.31 | mu-dev | good safe bet too :) |
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| 13:56.03 | Tapout | is there a way to 'force' .. aptitude dist-upgrade ... to reinstall all packages? I missed something important when going from etch-lenny and my damn client won't scroll up (buffer too small) |
| 13:56.05 | mu-dev | stay here, go look there, see what you see... maybe then you have more specific questions... |
| 13:57.16 | cyzie | why when i start tomcat, it started 3 processes ? |
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| 14:00.25 | Tapout | mu-dev, is that for me? |
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| 14:00.51 | pkcahier | mmmph, there has to be something that removes all those iptables rules |
| 14:01.10 | simNIX | Im trying to create a local mirror of Debian testing aka Lenny. The installer I use is from a daily build downloaded about 2 week ago. With apt-mirror Ive downloaded deb ftp://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian lenny main main/debian-installer contrib non-free'' and I created a softlink between dists/lenny and dist/testing. When I try to use this mirror in a preseed file and the install stops saying 'getting file failed'. On the ftp server I use to sh |
| 14:01.10 | simNIX | are the local mirror I see in log first a request for 'dists/lenny/Release' and 'dists/testing/Release' that succeeds and then a request for 'dists/unstable/Release' wich failes since I only mirror Lenny testing. Why does the installer need a file of unstable ? |
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| 14:01.32 | Hypergraphe | Hi |
| 14:01.48 | mu-dev | Tapout, what, the bts thing? |
| 14:01.50 | Hypergraphe | how can i browse my utmp logs ? |
| 14:02.22 | mu-dev | last? |
| 14:02.34 | stew | simNIX: i'd guess that the testing installer also uses unstable pinned lower in case something is missing from testing |
| 14:02.58 | Tapout | pkcahier, iptables --flsuh |
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| 14:03.00 | Tapout | pkcahier, iptables --flush |
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| 14:04.18 | tuxcrafter | Nov 19 14:59:44 ashley kernel: [104047.143357] Clocksource tsc unstable (delta = 299953824768 ns) |
| 14:04.30 | tuxcrafter | does somebody know how to fix that? |
| 14:04.37 | tuxcrafter | Nov 19 14:59:44 ashley kernel: [104047.149656] Time: hpet clocksource has been installed. |
| 14:04.39 | simNIX | stew; so to have a local mirror to install lenny testing of I would also need the full untable tree ? |
| 14:04.50 | stew | simNIX: certainly not |
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| 14:04.53 | simNIX | oow |
| 14:05.32 | simNIX | ill 1st try with only the Release of it |
| 14:05.33 | stew | simNIX: you'd need whatever packages the installer needs which are currently missing from testing, which is likely to currently be none |
| 14:05.48 | stew | simNIX: you could try with it symlinked to lenny |
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| 14:07.30 | simNIX | k - ty for thinking w me |
| 14:07.46 | Tapout | ummm, I did a dist-upgrade up to lenny... no new kernels in /boot/ ... anyone know why? |
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| 14:09.24 | d-b | Tapout: that is odd ... are you sure ? |
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| 14:10.17 | Tapout | d-b, I selected 'no' to an option .. when i should have said 'yes' |
| 14:10.22 | simNIX | stew; the linked fixed it - tnx - ) |
| 14:10.27 | Tapout | now it says not to reboot heh |
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| 14:11.04 | Tapout | d-b, i edited sources.list, replaced etch->lenny, updated, dist-upgrade , said no... got warnings, I wanna reinstall or force the question to be asked again |
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| 14:28.46 | naiv | i'd want to make an http tunnel for a douzen ports, but on one side, i have only one port opened, is it possible ? |
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| 14:30.09 | sarefo_work | what command do i use to copy files to a ftp site via cl? i normally use ncftp, but want to do a bash script instead of copying interactively |
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| 14:32.05 | stew | sarefo_work: use ncftpput |
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| 14:33.56 | sarefo_work | stew: thx |
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| 14:38.07 | shafu | hello |
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| 14:38.48 | shafu | what do i have to install so when i edit a program in perl/c with vim to show colored functions..and so on..? |
| 14:39.13 | stew | shafu: type ":syn on" |
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| 14:39.18 | mysteryc | Hi. |
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| 14:39.35 | proberts | how can I see what packages I currently have installed with apt? |
| 14:39.35 | mysteryc | What's a nice program that I can use to take video screenshorts? |
| 14:39.46 | stew | shafu: you can make this permanant by uncommenting the 'syntax on' in /etc/vim/vimrc or in ~/.vimrc |
| 14:39.51 | jelly | stew: does he also need to install vim instead of vim-tiny? |
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| 14:39.59 | stew | jelly: i don't know |
| 14:40.06 | jelly | is not a vim user |
| 14:40.29 | stew | proberts: aptitude search ~i |
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| 14:40.57 | proberts | stew - great thanks |
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| 14:42.02 | shafu | stew: thx that worked. I`ve installed vim-full and now i want to delete it and all related libs..if i apt-get remove vim-full it only deletes vim-full.. How can I delete those libs too? |
| 14:42.26 | stew | shafu: what version of debian are you running? |
| 14:42.32 | shafu | stew: 4.0 |
| 14:42.52 | stew | shafu: then you have to remove them manually. if you use aptitude instead of apt-get, this would be automatic |
| 14:43.23 | stew | shafu: perhaps /var/log/dpkg.log can help you figure out which you might want to remove |
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| 14:45.46 | shafu | stew: thx, how can I see what dependencies a package needs? (without installing it) |
| 14:46.08 | twobitsprite | aptitude show <package> |
| 14:46.09 | stew | shafu: apt-cache depends packagename |
| 14:46.17 | twobitsprite | that too |
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| 14:46.47 | cirtdan | Hi all |
| 14:46.54 | cirtdan | can some one help me? |
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| 14:47.18 | stew | cirtdan: just ask your real quesiton |
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| 14:47.37 | cirtdan | ok it's not about linux |
| 14:47.50 | cirtdan | i just need download a file 1.2 mb |
| 14:48.10 | stew | cirtdan: if your question is not debian related, it would be more appropriate elsewhere, perhaps #freenode which is a general help channel |
| 14:48.20 | cirtdan | ok thanks |
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| 14:49.46 | pa7iQ | hi, how do I compile a driver (module) for Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 02) ? I downloaded the source and I get errors |
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| 14:51.03 | confrey | hi everybody |
| 14:51.57 | confrey | I have a problem about IRQ : audioboard and wifi share teh same interrupt, how can I change this setting? |
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| 14:52.49 | strom | hi |
| 14:53.22 | bahadunn | I reconfigured logrotate.conf to rotate mail.log on a weekly basis keeping 7 weeks of logs but it seems to not be working |
| 14:53.23 | strom | Anyone here who could help me setting up my WiFi USB Stick? |
| 14:53.30 | bahadunn | any idea why it would not be working? |
| 14:53.42 | strom | I've already installed the driver with NDSIWRAPPER |
| 14:53.45 | stew | bahadunn: be more specific than "not working" |
| 14:54.05 | bahadunn | http://pastebin.com/m7e952345 |
| 14:54.07 | Overclock_Orange | bye bye |
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| 14:54.12 | bahadunn | there is the configuration |
| 14:54.52 | bahadunn | http://pastebin.com/m3aac1af4 |
| 14:55.02 | bahadunn | there is the file info |
| 14:55.28 | bahadunn | stew: to be more specific if you look at the files should I not have further back then the 14th of november? |
| 14:56.10 | strom | cya |
| 14:56.35 | bahadunn | and why are the compressed mail.logs odd numbered |
| 14:56.39 | bahadunn | that is strange |
| 14:57.17 | bahadunn | should it not be mail.log.0.gz, mail.log.1.gz, mail.log.2.gz, mail.log.3.gz etc... |
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| 14:57.32 | bahadunn | instead it is 0, 1, 3, 5 |
| 14:57.51 | alcohol | I rm'ed them |
| 14:58.32 | mysteryc | !screencast |
| 14:58.37 | mysteryc | no bot? |
| 14:58.50 | stew | mysteryc: a bot with no screencast factoid |
| 14:59.15 | mysteryc | stew: Oh, lol. Well, I need to recrd a tutorial and I can't seem to get recordmydesktop to work :s |
| 14:59.33 | stew | that's not suprising, its well known to be buggy |
| 14:59.44 | jamon | mysteryc: xvidcap is great |
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| 15:00.08 | mysteryc | jamon: xvidcap? i cant seem to find it in the repos |
| 15:00.24 | jamon | ah, could be only in lenny, what about istanbul, is that in etch? |
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| 15:00.49 | mysteryc | jamon: im on lenny. i dont like istanbul, it never worked for me :s |
| 15:01.23 | bahadunn | guess I am on my own? |
| 15:01.35 | jamon | mysteryc: ah, i have debian-multimedia repo enabled |
| 15:01.53 | Maliuta | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:02.21 | mysteryc | !debian--multimedia |
| 15:02.27 | mysteryc | !debian-multimedia |
| 15:02.28 | dpkg | i guess dmm is Debian Multimedia, a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for patent-related reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat. For information on how to use this repository, see http://debian-multimedia.org/ or ask me about <debian-multimedia.etch> |
| 15:03.01 | mysteryc | jamon: is debian-multimedia supported in lenny too? |
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| 15:03.19 | jamon | not officially, but it's a good one |
| 15:03.29 | mysteryc | jamon: Ok. |
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| 15:06.56 | frukt_ | hello, #debian. i asked this question yesterday, but i still haven't reached a solution. the trouble: i've cloned an etch partition from /dev/sda1 to /dev/sda4, modified grub's menu.lst and the /etc/fstab of the clone. but the sda4 system won't boot up - it does read the kernel and initrd from sda4, but still uses sda1 as the root partition. any ideas? |
| 15:07.48 | mysteryc | jamon: How can I add debian-mutlimedia ot my repos? |
| 15:07.56 | stew | frukt_: can you show us your menu.lst? use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
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| 15:08.10 | stew | mysteryc: http://debian-multimedia.org should tell you |
| 15:08.22 | Nergoth` | hi all |
| 15:08.26 | jamon | mysteryc: it's on the website, http://debian-multimedia.org |
| 15:08.34 | frukt_ | working on it |
| 15:08.48 | Nergoth` | I want to make small proxy cache server for me, seedbox and maybe small www server, what would be the best? Debian vs Gentoo vs Fedora vs CentOS vs FreeBSD? |
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| 15:09.23 | jamon | Nergoth`: well you're here in #debian aren't you? |
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| 15:09.54 | stew | Nergoth`: we tend to like debian here. if you are looking for an unbiased opinion, perhaps try ##linux |
| 15:10.09 | strom | Is anyone willing to help me with my WLAN-Problem? |
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| 15:11.06 | strom | c'mon |
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| 15:11.38 | frukt_ | ok, here are the relevan menu.lst and fstab snippets: http://pastebin.com/m1bb396b9 |
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| 15:12.53 | strom | ok |
| 15:12.57 | strom | thanks anyway |
| 15:12.59 | strom | :) |
| 15:13.01 | jamon | frukt_: quick question, you made sda4 bootable instead of sda1 with fdisk right? |
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| 15:13.33 | frukt_ | yup, it's bootable, and sda1 actually isn't and has never been |
| 15:13.37 | jamon | ah ok |
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| 15:13.52 | frukt_ | i renamed the kernel and initrd on the cloned partition (with the *-mytest suffix); these are found and loaded |
| 15:14.30 | frukt_ | seems that the kernel uses sda1 in spite of the "root" parameter set to sda4 |
| 15:14.53 | tarzeau | hi |
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| 15:15.06 | steven___ | hi |
| 15:15.20 | tarzeau | that one's good: http://facebook.istheshit.net |
| 15:15.40 | steven___ | Anyone know if it's possible to get keepalived to run an external script on removal of a real server ? |
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| 15:17.32 | jamon | frukt_: try removing the (hd0,3) from your kernel and initrd lines in menu.lst |
| 15:18.05 | frukt_ | jamon: already tried that, i added these just in case |
| 15:18.14 | frukt_ | doesn't work |
| 15:18.16 | jamon | damn :p |
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| 15:19.05 | stew | frukt_: can you show us your entire menu.lst? |
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| 15:19.17 | stew | frukt_: is there some reason you aren't using 'update-grub'? |
| 15:19.36 | frukt_ | why would i? |
| 15:19.44 | frukt_ | i'll upload the entire menu.lst |
| 15:19.47 | jamon | frukt_: one thing you could try is using root=LABEL=NAME where NAME is assigned to /dev/sda4 with e2label |
| 15:20.10 | jamon | fdisk -l /dev/sda4 too frukt_ |
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| 15:20.18 | jamon | er, fdisk -l /dev/sda |
| 15:20.24 | stew | frukt_: becuase it would keep you from having to edit menu.lst yourself |
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| 15:21.32 | frukt_ | here's the entire menu.lst |
| 15:21.33 | frukt_ | http://pastebin.com/m7f204202 |
| 15:21.48 | stew | frukt_: oh, so menu.lst is on /dev/sda1 and the rest of /boot/grub is on /dev/sda4? |
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| 15:23.15 | frukt_ | stew: menu.lst is on sda1, sda4 contains the new clone i wish to boot up. sda1's grub is used for everything |
| 15:23.48 | stew | frukt_: no, you are telling grub on sda1 to use sda4 for everything |
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| 15:24.04 | stew | well for this kernel |
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| 15:24.39 | frukt_ | jamon: the fdisk output |
| 15:24.39 | frukt_ | http://pastebin.com/m280e0763 |
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| 15:24.44 | stew | frukt_: you have "root (hd0,3)" telling grub to load the grub files from /dev/sda4 |
| 15:25.12 | frukt_ | ah |
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| 15:26.08 | frukt_ | hmm, so i should just change "root (hd0,3)" to "root (hd0,1)"? |
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| 15:26.59 | pa7iQ | how can I install kernel sources for kernel 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 ? is it package linux-source-2.6.24 ? |
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| 15:26.59 | frukt_ | i thought this just controls the "kernel" and "initrd" instructions that follow |
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| 15:28.27 | stew | pa7iQ: "apt-cache search -n linux-image" should give you your kernel choices, which, if you are on etch, should include etchnhalf |
| 15:28.28 | frukt_ | stew: if you look at grub's doc @ http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html it doesn't say anything about "root" loading any grub files |
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| 15:29.00 | stew | frukt_: what does it say 'root' does? |
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| 15:29.40 | metalx1000 | hello, I'm running Debian with icewm on my eee pc 900. I'm trying to get the 'fn' key working. xev does not seem to detect it. any suggestion? The key does work in both gnome and Xfce. |
| 15:29.56 | stew | frukt_: part of loading a debian kernel will be loading the second stage grub loader from the root partition |
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| 15:30.40 | frukt_ | ok, i'll have to try that |
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| 15:31.07 | frukt_ | but i still don't get how it's supposed to work |
| 15:31.09 | mysteryc | !fonts |
| 15:31.09 | dpkg | fonts is probably check http://www.nwalsh.com/comp.fonts/FAQ/ for general info, ask me about <font guide>, or http://www.kegel.com/linux/tt.html and http://www.linux-mag.com/2000-02/guru_01.html or http://linuxgazette.net/issue96/adam.html, or http://egads.ertius.org/~rob/font_guide.txt, or http://www.fsf.org/blogs/licensing/20050425novalis Ask me about <install font>. |
| 15:31.27 | frukt_ | because the kernel gets the correct root argument set to /dev/sda4 |
| 15:31.32 | pa7iQ | stew: yes I see the kernel choices , these are kernel images, and I need the source for my kernel |
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| 15:32.01 | dragon{} | hi |
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| 15:32.11 | dragon{} | where can I find an apt sarge mirror? |
| 15:32.38 | stew | dragon{}: archive.debian.org ; note that sarge is no longer supported and known to have big security problems which nobody is fixing |
| 15:33.01 | dragon{} | stew: I see, thank you |
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| 15:34.53 | stew | frukt_: is there an error you are getting? or is it just using the wrong root partition? |
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| 15:35.58 | Neaai | I'm trying to use minicom to connect to a cisco router via the serial port. minicom says it's configured for /dev/ttyS1 while a check showed me I don't have /dev/ttyS* Any suggestions ? |
| 15:36.18 | mysteryc | Uh, I have the ttf file, not a package. :S How should I install it? :S |
| 15:36.45 | frukt_ | stew: no error, just booting up /dev/sda1 |
| 15:36.45 | stew | Neaai: likely you need to load a kernel module for your serial ports |
| 15:36.54 | amphi | mysteryc: you can just throw it in ~/.fonts |
| 15:36.58 | stew | frukt_: show us the output of "cat /proc/cmdline" after booting |
| 15:37.03 | frukt_ | although, how can i view the kernel scrollback? |
| 15:37.11 | frukt_ | the very first messages from the kernel? |
| 15:37.19 | stew | frukt_: /msg dpkg bootlog |
| 15:37.41 | stew | frukt_: did you rebuild your initrd after moving / ? |
| 15:37.43 | frukt_ | $ cat /proc/cmdline |
| 15:37.43 | frukt_ | root=/dev/sda4 ro |
| 15:37.52 | mysteryc | amphi: I tried that but it says no such directory :S |
| 15:38.05 | frukt_ | rebuild initrd? |
| 15:38.11 | frukt_ | nope |
| 15:38.11 | stew | frukt_: yes |
| 15:38.19 | Neaai | stew: I can't find the logic of the kernel not doing such a thing already... Yet what module would that be ? |
| 15:38.23 | stew | frukt_: can you show us the output of "mount" after booting? |
| 15:38.28 | frukt_ | tell me more, i don't even know what that's good for |
| 15:38.48 | stew | frukt_: well the initrd is the thing actually mounting your root partition |
| 15:39.36 | frukt_ | here's the mount output |
| 15:39.37 | frukt_ | http://pastebin.com/m7525d99e |
| 15:39.53 | mysteryc | A little help here? I am trying to get a font installed but I can't :S |
| 15:39.54 | frukt_ | after attempting to boot the clone |
| 15:40.14 | stew | frukt_: yeah, i'd guess you need to rebuild your initrd |
| 15:40.31 | frukt_ | so the root partition is hardcoded to initrd? |
| 15:40.33 | frukt_ | really? |
| 15:41.04 | frukt_ | so the root parameter to the kernel doesn't do anything? |
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| 15:41.39 | stew | the initrd is the thing that actually mounts the root partition, seems like a good place to put the blame |
| 15:42.01 | frukt_ | wait, how do i look at the kernel messages again? |
| 15:42.33 | stew | frukt_: dmesg ; /var/log/kern.log ; /var/log/boot (/msg dpkg bootlog) |
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| 15:42.41 | Neaai | As much as I like linux, as much I get frustrated from the smallest and simplest things I fails to address. Like serial ports... |
| 15:42.53 | Neaai | (it fails to) |
| 15:43.11 | stew | Neaai: what does "uname -r" say? |
| 15:43.32 | Neaai | stew: 2.6.26-1-686 |
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| 15:45.41 | frukt_ | ok, how would one go about recompiling initrd |
| 15:45.55 | amphi | mysteryc: so make it |
| 15:46.07 | stew | Neaai: i'd expect the common serial drivers to already be compiled in. is udevd running? |
| 15:46.13 | stew | frukt_: how did you build it the first time? |
| 15:46.35 | stew | frukt_: usually it is generated when you install the kernel package, but i'm guessing you didn't build your kernel into a package |
| 15:46.44 | frukt_ | i didn't build it |
| 15:46.47 | Neaai | stew: yes. ps aux output: root 1002 0.0 0.0 3068 1664 ? S<s Nov14 0:00 udevd --daemon |
| 15:46.48 | stew | frukt_: who did? |
| 15:46.54 | frukt_ | who knows |
| 15:46.56 | simNIX | for my vpn I need to set some routes on my Leny testing box. I can use route manualy and i works. I wonder where I can set these routes so they get up at boot after this openvpn client connected ? |
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| 15:47.08 | simNIX | and i=and it |
| 15:47.09 | frukt_ | it's a machine at my workplace |
| 15:47.11 | stew | frukt_: where did you get this kernel? |
| 15:47.13 | Neaai | stew: or maybe my box is slightly crippled :/ |
| 15:47.25 | mysteryc | amphi: I did but it doesnt recognize them :s |
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| 15:47.28 | tuxcrafter | how do i install xfwm4 on debian sid |
| 15:47.29 | tuxcrafter | apt-get install xfwm4 |
| 15:47.33 | tuxcrafter | does not work anymore |
| 15:47.48 | stew | frukt_: the recommended tool for building initrds these days is mkinitramfs |
| 15:47.49 | tuxcrafter | could somebody test it |
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| 15:48.17 | mysteryc | The bot says "but you will have to add /usr/local/share/fonts/ to your xorg.conf" |
| 15:48.26 | mysteryc | Where to add that? |
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| 15:48.36 | frukt_ | i guess i could try it, but i'm kind of sceptical that this is the problem |
| 15:48.51 | tuxcrafter | http://pastebin.ca/1261441 |
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| 15:49.12 | stew | judd: info xfwm4 --release sid |
| 15:49.12 | judd | stew: xfwm4 (x11): is optional; Version: 4.4.2-5; Size: 1294.6k; Installed: 7172k -- window manager of the Xfce project |
| 15:49.15 | frukt_ | thanks a lot for help though |
| 15:49.19 | amphi | mysteryc: you want the fonts system wide? if they're just for one user, /home/$USER/.fonts is the place IMHO |
| 15:49.24 | stew | tuxcrafter: can you be more specific than "doesn't work"? |
| 15:49.29 | RoenSrvr | Does anyone else have a Creative Zen? What do i need to be able to get it mounted in lenny? |
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| 15:49.50 | frukt_ | any other ideas are welcome as well ... i mean, how hard can it be to boot up a partition |
| 15:49.52 | Neaai | stew: ok, some things are just odd sometimes. After a reboot the /dev/ttyS* are there. |
| 15:49.54 | mysteryc | amphi: I want them system-wide |
| 15:50.22 | tuxcrafter | stew: http://pastebin.ca/1261441 |
| 15:50.28 | stew | Neaai: odd. had you just switched kernels/upgraded udev or anything? |
| 15:51.13 | amphi | mysteryc: add a FontPath entry - see man xorg.conf |
| 15:51.26 | stew | tuxcrafter: what does "apt-cache policy libcairo2" say for "Candidate:"? |
| 15:51.36 | Neaai | stew: No. Nothing at all. I have been investigating this for the last hour and decided I'll just reboot. And there it was. |
| 15:51.46 | aronofsky | hi, id like to start vlc serveur with xinetd, so i define a service on port 5000/udp/dgram that starts the following command "vlc -vv udp://@:5000" ... it seems that doesn't start the service when i try to connect ... any idea what could be wrong here ? |
| 15:51.56 | Neaai | stew: after all what I checked all looked ok. |
| 15:52.01 | tuxcrafter | stew: i just reverted my sourcelist back to lenny |
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| 15:54.14 | RoenieSrvr | if hotplug was running, would i get a result when typing: ps aux | grep hotplug ? i don't so may i assume it aint being started at boot? |
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| 15:54.24 | tuxcrafter | stew: http://pastebin.ca/1261445 |
| 15:54.32 | The-Kernel | Hi, on boot up, my system seems to stall at "configuring network" |
| 15:55.02 | The-Kernel | is there a way to limit the time that it takes to get a response from the DHCP server for my eth0 and wlan0 cards? |
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| 15:55.41 | RoenieSrvr | i checked init.d, theres no "hotplug" there, however, /usr/lib/hotplug exists, as does /etc/modprobe.d/pnp-hotplug |
| 15:55.42 | stew | tuxcrafter: what happens if you run "aptitude install libcairo2" |
| 15:55.54 | stew | RoenieSrvr: what version of debian are you running? |
| 15:56.02 | RoenieSrvr | lenny |
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| 15:56.11 | stew | RoenieSrvr: hotplug doesn't exist in lenny, it is replaced by udev |
| 15:56.21 | RoenieSrvr | oh |
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| 15:56.46 | RoenieSrvr | then i'm lost ;) |
| 15:57.03 | stew | RoenieSrvr: what areyou trying to do? |
| 15:57.04 | tuxcrafter | stew: can i also use apt-get instead of aptitude? |
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| 15:57.19 | RoenieSrvr | creative zen mp3 player isn't getting 'seen' when plugged in through usb |
| 15:57.21 | stew | tuxcrafter: yes, but aptitude is recommended, especially for sorting out dependency problems |
| 15:57.23 | scanwinder | Does anybody know of anything similar to the ubuntu netbook remix for debian? |
| 15:57.34 | stew | RoenieSrvr: how are you tyring to see it? with what application? |
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| 15:57.48 | stew | scanwinder: what is "the ubuntu netbook remix"? |
| 15:58.12 | scanwinder | stew: hold on ill find a screenshot, thats the best way to explain. |
| 15:58.14 | RoenieSrvr | i was using konqueror |
| 15:58.24 | RoenieSrvr | dmesg does show a new usb device is found |
| 15:58.27 | tuxcrafter | stew: i just installed xfce4 with the lenny repo my test enviorment is not clean anymore |
| 15:58.38 | scanwinder | stew: http://tombuntu.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/netbookremix.jpg |
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| 15:58.48 | stew | RoenieSrvr: you need to use something that specifically knows how to talk to a creative zen, iirc they do not support usb mass storage |
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| 15:59.05 | RoenieSrvr | stabs creative |
| 15:59.20 | RoenieSrvr | thanks, stew |
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| 15:59.57 | RoenieSrvr | hrm i do remember that on windows it did work, without using the software |
| 16:00.15 | stew | RoenieSrvr: after loading some specific driver for it? or without installing a driver? |
| 16:00.19 | RoenieSrvr | not 100% sure whether i installed a driver beforehand though |
| 16:00.22 | tuxcrafter | deb hell when installing thunar console-date pm-utils and all other stuff come with it! |
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| 16:00.22 | RoenieSrvr | :x |
| 16:00.26 | stew | RoenieSrvr: i could be wrong, double check me, "usb mass storage" is the term you should be searching for |
| 16:00.35 | charzero | Is there a way to write a file '/home/foo' to the partition mounted as '/' even though another partition is mounted as '/home', understanding that I will not be able to see the file by normal means? |
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| 16:01.52 | test | hello room. |
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| 16:02.09 | test | i need some help please. wish ssh tunneling in debian |
| 16:02.45 | stew | test: please do not do that |
| 16:02.46 | fengor | test: pong |
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| 16:03.08 | test | stew: do what? |
| 16:03.34 | stew | test: ping the channel |
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| 16:03.59 | alcohol | ping |
| 16:04.20 | sk4 | pong |
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| 16:04.46 | sk4 | . | |
| 16:04.51 | test | sorry stew |
| 16:04.53 | alcohol | | . |
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| 16:05.02 | stew | alcohol: sk4: do this elsewhere |
| 16:05.06 | alcohol | (': |
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| 16:08.09 | aronofsky | id like to know, can anyone tell me what happened if you make 2 mv on the same file at the same time, how is the concurrency access managed ? |
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| 16:09.15 | beardy | It's not done "at the same time" really, only one thing can access the drive where it is at once. So, one of them locks it in some way, and does it. |
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| 16:10.00 | aronofsky | beardy: but what will happen when the first will try to delete the file ? |
| 16:10.43 | beardy | aronofsky: Not sure, but I'd guess it locks it until it is all finished? The copy, and removal? It's a good question. |
| 16:12.14 | aronofsky | actually i tried, start a mv on a big file , the starts a second mv in the mean time ... it doesn't tell me I cant , just at the one of the mv tells me it cant remove the file because it not there anymore, but its seems both files are compelte |
| 16:12.31 | aronofsky | not sure how it is handle though .. id like to understand |
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| 16:13.29 | beardy | aronofsky: Maybe it waits until all processes reading from the file, are done reading it, then deletes it, then the second one can not delete it, since it's already gone. |
| 16:13.53 | aronofsky | beardy: any idea how i can confirm that guess ? |
| 16:14.03 | aronofsky | cant find anything relevant on the web |
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| 16:14.22 | petemc | aronofsky: mv does pretty much the equivalent of cp then rm |
| 16:14.25 | beardy | aronofsky: Kernel documentation, and or file system documentation probably. |
| 16:14.36 | sgeigerb` | recalls: <petemc> btw, i dont have a giant head :) |
| 16:14.41 | petemc | heh |
| 16:14.47 | petemc | that takes me back |
| 16:15.17 | sgeigerbot | recalls: <sgeigerbot> oisin: Don't ask to ask...just ask. The Ask-To-Ask Protocol v 1.0 wastes more bandwidth than any version of the Ask Protocol. (~ask-to-ask) <petemc> ~tell oisin about ask <sgeigerbot> ~tell petemc about too damn slow! <petemc> ~tell sgeigerbot about im rolling a joint atm |
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| 16:16.03 | petemc | old school |
| 16:16.07 | sgeigerbot | :-) |
| 16:16.15 | aronofsky | beardy: ok thx will look into it ... if anyone got an answer though ... |
| 16:16.29 | sgeigerb` | petemc: I have sensed the culture of the channel has changed while I was powered down. |
| 16:16.34 | beardy | aronofsky: maybe 'apropos lock' has some clues |
| 16:16.38 | sgeigerbot | for these past years. |
| 16:16.57 | petemc | sgeigerb`: can a man stand twice in the same river? |
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| 16:17.17 | sgeigerbot | petemc: Indeed, you have a point. |
| 16:17.25 | beardy | Your senses are correct. Though very fine ones aren't needed. |
| 16:17.25 | rgr | mv depends very much on whether you are moving to a different partition or filesystem. |
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| 16:17.40 | rgr | so can be nothing like a cp and rm. |
| 16:18.04 | sgeigerb` | recalls beardy from years ago: <beardy> qotd176 is the next one it seems.. |
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| 16:18.25 | sgeigerbot | ~qotd |
| 16:18.26 | apt | qotd is, like, "Documention is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." |
| 16:18.27 | beardy | !quotd176 |
| 16:18.34 | beardy | !qotd176 |
| 16:18.34 | dpkg | somebody said qotd176 was < raf256> Why debian devel decided to curse debian with constant farting out of the box? |
| 16:18.42 | petemc | rgr: well, its quite possible to 'mv' files you dont own or from a ro fs, which will make a copy, then complain |
| 16:18.59 | beardy | sgeigerbot: Hmm, next free one, maybe I meant. Heh. |
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| 16:19.00 | petemc | rgr: which, to me, would be somewhat analogous to cp and rm |
| 16:19.02 | sgeigerb` | recalls setting qotd176 years ago: <sgeigerbot`> !qotd176 is And forget about that gui crap. |
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| 16:19.26 | rgr | petemc: note I said "can be nothing" like. Clearer would be "it possible its nothing like" :-; |
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| 16:19.38 | rgr | s/it/is .... |
| 16:20.04 | SerajewelKS | i don't suppose ssh can operate over udp? |
| 16:20.18 | rgr | The point is that the file stays in the same physical location on the disk and the "mv" is as good as instant. |
| 16:20.24 | sgeigerb` | serajewelKS: You can tunnel over UDP. |
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| 16:20.39 | sgeigerbot | serajewelKS: udptunnel - Tunnel UDP packets over a TCP connection |
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| 16:20.54 | sigp239 | How do I make it so that pypanel starts when I login to openbox via gdm? |
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| 16:20.57 | SerajewelKS | sgeigerb`: i think i want to do the opposite |
| 16:21.06 | SerajewelKS | tunnel a tcp (ssh) connection over udp |
| 16:21.21 | sgeigerb` | serajewelKS: yes, that's what that package does. |
| 16:21.38 | sgeigerbot | udptunnel - Tunnel UDP packets over a TCP connection |
| 16:21.39 | SerajewelKS | sgeigerb`: it sounds like it encapsulates UDP in TCP, not the other way around |
| 16:21.43 | SerajewelKS | or does it do both |
| 16:21.53 | xingu | SerajewelKS: openvpn uses ssl over udp |
| 16:21.57 | sgeigerb` | oh....hmmm. yeah, i think I misread that. |
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| 16:22.27 | SerajewelKS | xingu: right, but i'm trying to do this between a 'doze box and my debian box, and i don't have admin on this box so i can't be installing network devices |
| 16:22.32 | beardy | SerajewelKS: Why, though? You'd want your own error checking and so on, over UDP then.. |
| 16:22.34 | sgeigerb` | yeah, that's not all that exciting. I swear you can do it. People tunnel tcp over dns packets, even. |
| 16:22.46 | RoenieSrvr | what package(s) do i want in order to run apps that were created for gnome? (i don't have gnome, so i'm in library hell) |
| 16:22.49 | sgeigerb` | is dns udp? I don't recall. |
| 16:22.51 | SerajewelKS | beardy: because UDP NAT traversal is trivial, and TCP NAT traversal is not |
| 16:22.58 | sgeigerb` | nstx 1.1-beta6-2.1 Tunnel IP over DNS |
| 16:23.04 | beardy | SerajewelKS: Ok. |
| 16:23.11 | SerajewelKS | sgeigerb`: mostly, dns runs over udp and tcp |
| 16:23.22 | aronofsky | beardy: another question, not related at all but maybe you could help me : id like to start vlc serveur with xinetd, so i define a service on port 5000/udp/dgram that starts the following command "vlc -vv udp://@:5000" ... it seems that doesn't start the service when i try to connect ... any idea what could be wrong here ? |
| 16:23.33 | sgeigerb` | serajewlKS: What you are asking for is known also as a covert channel. |
| 16:23.39 | SerajewelKS | RoenieSrvr: gnome-core will get you a minimal gnome setup, including libs |
| 16:23.39 | gangsterlicious | anyone here done RAID6? hows the stability |
| 16:23.43 | sgeigerb` | well, perhaps not always, but sometimes. |
| 16:24.06 | RoenieSrvr | ty |
| 16:24.10 | sgeigerbot | Perhaps this is what you want: Transconnect - Lets users behind a proxy connect directly to the internet |
| 16:24.12 | SerajewelKS | sgeigerb`: you mean the encapsulation part or the traversal part? |
| 16:24.20 | RoenieSrvr | google finally coughed up something too: "gnome-libs" |
| 16:24.46 | xingu | SerajewelKS: as a sidebar, why is udp nat traversal easier? |
| 16:25.22 | beardy | What xingu said.. no difference really afaik/afaict. |
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| 16:25.57 | SerajewelKS | xingu: TCP traversal works with far fewer NAT mechanisms, and requires that the application either do it itself, or that the application cooperate with whatever is performing the traversal |
| 16:26.00 | sgeigerb` | serajewlKS: Not sure. |
| 16:26.03 | SerajewelKS | xingu: and it requires OS support |
| 16:26.42 | SerajewelKS | xingu: if the app doing the traversal isn't the same as the app doing the connection then you have to double-bind the local endpoint, which requires that both processes set a specific socket option when binding |
| 16:26.53 | SerajewelKS | and the OS must support this option |
| 16:27.19 | SerajewelKS | basically it's tricky as hell. UDP traversal is straightforward. |
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| 16:27.46 | xingu | SerajewelKS: aah, you're considering the connectionless case |
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| 16:28.14 | hereje | Hi... Anybody can help me to join a HP TapeLibrary MSL6000 with my Debian/GNU Linux through a HBA card using qla2xxx ? |
| 16:28.19 | SerajewelKS | xingu: well that's what UDP is. the connectionless nature of UDP makes traversal much easier |
| 16:28.27 | xingu | nods |
| 16:29.27 | SerajewelKS | but i want to run port forwards over ssh, so i have to figure out how to encapsulate ssh (tcp) in udp without using openvpn (which would admittedly be a lot more fun and simple) |
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| 16:29.45 | SerajewelKS | unless you know how to operate openvpn on a windows box without admin :) |
| 16:29.50 | hereje_ | I need to join a HP TapeLibrary MSL6000 with my Debian/GNU Linux through a HBA card using qla2xxx (QLogic driver) ? |
| 16:30.29 | tuxcrafter | how do i caculate my dpi my real screen is 230mm height + 305mm width and resolutions is 1024x786 |
| 16:30.36 | xingu | SerajewelKS: afaik it uses (win)tun/tap - if they're not installed, you're SOL; if they are installed, it probably still needs privilege escalation anyway |
| 16:30.49 | SerajewelKS | xingu: right, that's my understanding too |
| 16:31.22 | stew | tuxcrafter: 230 / (304 / 25.4) |
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| 16:32.02 | stew | tuxcrafter: uhh |
| 16:32.15 | stew | tuxcrafter: no, i mean 786 / (230/25.4) |
| 16:32.25 | SerajewelKS | on an unrelated note, if i'm bringing up a network bridge on boot (by way of /etc/network/interfaces) will it have the same hardware address every boot? |
| 16:32.25 | xingu | SerajewelKS: something's gotta give; either grow a port forward/ outside nat address for one end and use ssh, or grow admin rights and use openvpn |
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| 16:32.46 | stew | tuxcrafter: hwoever, you should just be able to put your display size in xorg.conf and have it calculate for you |
| 16:32.51 | SerajewelKS | xingu: or write a tcp-over-udp tunnel program :) |
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| 16:33.07 | stew | tuxcrafter: (man xorg.conf and search for DisplaySize) |
| 16:33.15 | xingu | SerajewelKS: good luck doing that on the 'doze end without using wintap in the process ;) |
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| 16:34.00 | tuxcrafter | stew: thanks i only needed the formula i needed know if to use inch or mm |
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| 16:34.11 | xingu | SerajewelKS: surely one end or the other will let you port forward/ nat |
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| 16:34.36 | xingu | SerajewelKS: and if not, I'm guessing you're going to trip AUP in any case |
| 16:34.50 | Daenyth | Hi all |
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| 16:35.16 | xingu | SerajewelKS: http://linide.sourceforge.net/nat-traverse/ |
| 16:35.30 | Daenyth | I'm trying to package metamail for Archlinux, and I'm having some trouble getting it to compile. I'm using the sourceball from debian.org and patching with the .diff also from there, but it won't compile |
| 16:35.35 | Daenyth | http://packages.debian.org/stable/mail/metamail |
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| 16:35.52 | Daenyth | I get this error when trying to ./configure: configure: error: can not run config/config.sub |
| 16:35.59 | Daenyth | the config.sub file doesn't seem to be there |
| 16:36.25 | Daenyth | anyone have any ideas? |
| 16:36.52 | jpinx | I need to mount an ext3 fs on a 2nd HDD at boot time and have it available to a specific uid. Mount doesn't support uid=1000 for ext3 filesystems - so how do I do this? |
| 16:37.25 | Daenyth | or any ideas as to where I could ask someone who might know more? |
| 16:37.35 | Daenyth | from all that I can tell, upstream is dead, debian has the only source |
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| 16:38.26 | hereje | I need to join a HP TapeLibrary MSL6000 with my Debian/GNU Linux in a blade Server through an HBA interface using qla2xxx (QLogic driver)? Some suggestion? |
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| 16:38.55 | FenrirReturns | What package do I need to dpkg-reconfigure to get a list of apt mirrors? |
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| 16:40.00 | xingu | SerajewelKS: actually - take a look at stun... |
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| 16:42.32 | Agiofws | hello |
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| 16:43.41 | emdete | hi, i try to build jabberd2 from source - wasnt there a command that helps with that doing everything from apt-get source, apt-get install ...-dev, debian/rules and so on? what was it called? |
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| 16:45.30 | jelly | emdete: "/msg dpkg ssb" ? |
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| 16:47.19 | jelly | emdete: or are you thinking of something like pbuilder |
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| 16:48.25 | enzo_5 | hi |
| 16:49.05 | enzo_5 | i've deleted the file /etc/init.d/apache2 from the package apache2-mpm-prefork, how can I get it back ? |
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| 16:49.39 | stew | enzo_5: /msg dpkg confmiss ; but /etc/init.d/apache2 is not from the apache2-mpm-prefork package, its from apache2.2-common iirc |
| 16:50.04 | SerajewelKS | xingu: STUN doesn't do traversal OOTB with random apps, it's a library |
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| 16:50.07 | emdete | jelly: thnx! |
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| 16:50.16 | SerajewelKS | xingu: and you need another data channel to arrange the connection |
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| 16:51.08 | xingu | SerajewelKS: yeah, just in the process of working that out too |
| 16:51.17 | SerajewelKS | xingu: either way, what i have works for traversal |
| 16:51.21 | enzo_5 | ok stew |
| 16:51.30 | SerajewelKS | xingu: i don't have control over the NAT layer on either end, which is why i'm doing this anyway |
| 16:51.37 | SerajewelKS | otherwise i'd just port forward the sucker |
| 16:51.38 | xingu | SerajewelKS: fix the transport brokenness, save yourself a world of hurt |
| 16:51.56 | SerajewelKS | xingu: i don't think i can fix NAT, i'm not that powerful yet :) |
| 16:52.13 | jelly | if skype can work it all out, a standardized VOIP protocol should too |
| 16:52.21 | enzo_5 | stew: if i reinstall conf files, it will ask me what to reinstall ? because i only need to get /etc/init.d/apache2, all my other conf files are ok |
| 16:52.39 | SerajewelKS | jelly: so i should run ssh over a VOIP protocol? :P |
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| 16:53.08 | xingu | SerajewelKS: 'doze port of nat-traverse above looks the go then. |
| 16:53.19 | stew | enzo_5: no, it will just reinstall anything which was removed completely, it would not replace anything that exists |
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| 16:54.07 | SerajewelKS | xingu: this program will not work in my case |
| 16:54.11 | jelly | SerajewelKS: that's an idea! |
| 16:54.24 | SerajewelKS | xingu: it assumes that the source port is not modified on either end |
| 16:54.33 | SerajewelKS | xingu: at least one of the NAT layers remap source ports |
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| 16:54.54 | SerajewelKS | xingu: i do have a proof-of-concept C# app that will work in my case |
| 16:54.57 | enzo_5 | ok stew |
| 16:55.00 | SerajewelKS | (needs polish but works) |
| 16:55.28 | xingu | SerajewelKS: sure, but it should unmap it at the far end netting out the damage |
| 16:55.55 | SerajewelKS | xingu: no, that's not possible |
| 16:56.00 | jelly | hereje_: is it connected directly via crossover fc cable or via fc switches? any SAN equipment needs to be presented to a server on the switch(es) |
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| 16:56.28 | SerajewelKS | xingu: if i'm sending from port 60001 (as per this example) then my NAT layer may remap the source port to something like 49501 |
| 16:56.32 | xingu | SerajewelKS: it is if the whole datagram is encapsulated |
| 16:56.43 | SerajewelKS | xingu: i'm not talking encapsulation yet |
| 16:56.54 | SerajewelKS | xingu: i'm talking about establishing the firewall hole that allows traversal |
| 16:57.06 | jelly | hereje_: after it's presented, you can use scsiadd to rescan the bus, or you can reload the qla2xxx module, or reboot |
| 16:57.13 | hereje_ | jelly, Via fc switches... So... How do i present them? That's my first doubt |
| 16:57.21 | SerajewelKS | xingu: you have to know the port that's open on the other NAT to send packets through, and if the NAT is remapping source ports then you need a third party to tell you what that port is |
| 16:57.40 | SerajewelKS | xingu: nat-traverse does not use a third-party, hence it cannot work in a source-port-mapping environment |
| 16:57.51 | xingu | SerajewelKS: right, which I gather stun solves with the aid of a broker on the global side of both _P_AT boundaries :) |
| 16:57.55 | newfeats | NAT shMAT. |
| 16:57.56 | SerajewelKS | which, sadly, is most NAT routers i have seen |
| 16:58.12 | jelly | hereje_: rtfm fs switch manuals. brocade ones have a java based browser ui |
| 16:58.25 | xingu | SerajewelKS: if we're being pernickety with terminology we can stop pretending that it's only the network address which is mangled ;) |
| 16:58.28 | jelly | fc switch* |
| 16:58.29 | SerajewelKS | xingu: correct. my thing is a poor replacement for STUN, but with a built-in communication channel for finding services. |
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| 16:58.57 | SerajewelKS | xingu: which means that once it's up i can tell some client "hey go connect to this VPN" and it Just Works(tm) |
| 16:59.09 | xingu | SerajewelKS: sounds a lot more painful than just either fixing the transport (or maybe playing nice with it via upnp) |
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| 16:59.32 | SerajewelKS | xingu: you know of any universities that let you fuck with their NAT layer with upnp, you send me their info |
| 17:00.08 | xingu | SerajewelKS: I know plenty of universities which forbid what you're trying to do in their usage policy |
| 17:00.09 | SerajewelKS | xingu: when i said i had no control over the NAT layer, i knew what i was talking about :) |
| 17:00.27 | SerajewelKS | xingu: yeah, then they must forbid skype, eh? |
| 17:00.42 | hereje | jelly, Sorry... I've lost my connection... Can you repeat me the last lines you write? |
| 17:00.52 | SerajewelKS | xingu: but honestly, i do so much shit that's against policy, but ITS lets me because i used to work for them and they know that i'm not going to fuck anything up |
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| 17:01.19 | hereje | jelly, About to present my TapeLibrary and my debian? |
| 17:01.20 | jelly | hereje: rtfm fc switch manuals. brocade ones have a java based browser ui for configuration |
| 17:01.24 | pif | hi, I can't find sunbird in debian, does it have another name? |
| 17:01.41 | xingu | SerajewelKS: nb, you only need to solve the problem at one end; are both ends similarly prohibitive? |
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| 17:01.53 | SerajewelKS | xingu: i know more than quite a few of the staff, and that helps a lot when you want to do stuff that could be considered shady. i spoofed ARP on this network when one of the core routers stopped responding to ARP (but would still route). saved the netadmins a weekend maintenance trip |
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| 17:02.06 | SerajewelKS | xingu: yes, they are both universities |
| 17:02.18 | streuner | !sunbird |
| 17:02.18 | dpkg | [sunbird] what Mozilla's standalone calendar application will be called once it's worthy of the title - see http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/ |
| 17:02.28 | SerajewelKS | xingu: anyway i need to run to a lunch appt |
| 17:02.33 | xingu | sure |
| 17:02.35 | hereje | jelly, But if i don't see any devices, i haven't anything to present to my system |
| 17:02.36 | jelly | hereje: we use RHEL on SAN machines because Debian stable wasn't in the support matrix |
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| 17:02.44 | SerajewelKS | xingu: thanks for the chat, i always love talking about this shit |
| 17:03.14 | streuner | !find sunbird |
| 17:03.17 | xingu | SerajewelKS: oh well, good luck; from the looks of things there's no presolved answer; openvpn is still the winning candidate but even that doesn't have traversal built in as far as I can see |
| 17:03.33 | pif | how about lightning? |
| 17:03.45 | xingu | SerajewelKS: ipsec obviously does if both ends are suitably clueful, but that's a whole nother story (and requires admin access at both ends) |
| 17:03.49 | streuner | pif: /msg dpkg sunbird |
| 17:03.51 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'sunbird' (2 of 3): (/usr/share/iceowl/defaults/pref/{sunbird-l10n.js|sunbird.js}) in web/iceowl ;; (/usr/share/opensync/defaults/sunbird-sync, /usr/lib/opensync/plugins/{sunbird_sync.la|sunbird_sync.so}) in libs/opensync-plugin-iceowl. |
| 17:04.20 | pif | streuner: thx |
| 17:04.27 | streuner | pif: it seems to me, sunbird isnt in Debian, just download it at mozilla |
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| 17:04.50 | pif | iceowl == sunbird, no? |
| 17:05.05 | jelly | hereje: you need to configure the fc switches to put the ports (or wwns) for the tape library and the server in one zone |
| 17:05.08 | xingu | SerajewelKS: the answers that exist are vertically integrated into the apps which "need" them |
| 17:05.12 | streuner | !info iceowl |
| 17:05.27 | xingu | SerajewelKS: nb teredo is another candidate but again admin access/ suitably clueful peer endpoints. |
| 17:05.34 | hereje | jelly, Is done |
| 17:05.42 | stew | judd: info iceowl --release sid |
| 17:05.43 | judd | stew: iceowl (web): is optional; Version: 0.8-6; Size: 7497.1k; Installed: 23292k -- Standalone Calendar Application |
| 17:05.44 | ukwiz | how do I find out what version of debian I am using? |
| 17:05.48 | dpkg | iceowl: (Standalone Calendar Application), section web, is optional. Version: 0.8-6 (sid), Packaged size: 7497 kB, Installed size: 23292 kB |
| 17:05.54 | hereje | jelly, I have the TL and the server in a specific zone |
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| 17:06.13 | jelly | hereje: they should be able to see each other then |
| 17:06.17 | streuner | judd, versions iceowl |
| 17:06.17 | judd | streuner: iceowl -- etch-backports: 0.7-2~bpo40+1 lenny: 0.8-6 sid: 0.8-6 |
| 17:06.27 | FenrirReturns | Is it possible to use dpkg-reconfigure to find a new apt mirror? |
| 17:06.33 | jelly | hereje: was it done before the last reboot? |
| 17:06.40 | stew | dpkg: sunbird is also sunbird is called iceowl in debian |
| 17:06.40 | dpkg | okay, stew |
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| 17:07.29 | jelly | hereje: your network connection sucks |
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| 17:08.23 | hereje | jelly, How can i send you the response of dmesg after execute modprobe qla2xxx |
| 17:08.25 | hereje | ? |
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| 17:08.32 | jelly | !paste |
| 17:08.32 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! |
| 17:09.01 | amitz | debian lenny, netbeans 6.5 from netbeans.org can't find jdk. sun-java6-jdk was installed. any pointer? |
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| 17:09.11 | kkuno | hi |
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| 17:09.25 | jelly | hereje: use one of the pastebins dpkg mentioned |
| 17:09.33 | kkuno | which kernels do etch and lenny use |
| 17:09.36 | kkuno | ? |
| 17:09.55 | kkuno | etch: 2.6.24? |
| 17:09.56 | hereje | jelly, I don't understand you |
| 17:09.56 | stew | kkuno: etch comes with 2.6.18 and 2.6.24, lenny uses 2.6.26 |
| 17:10.33 | jelly | hereje: paste into the from on http://paste.debian.net/ and report the new url here |
| 17:10.39 | jelly | form* |
| 17:11.05 | kkuno | ok |
| 17:11.40 | amitz | sorry, fix statement again: installation script of netbeans 6.5 (from netbeans.org) can't find jdk. but sun-java6-jdk is installed. tried /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun but installer doesn't recognize it as jdk. any pointer? |
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| 17:12.55 | crookshanks | when building a source package with dpkg-buildpackage, how can i tell it to not strip the resulting libraries? |
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| 17:15.19 | \amethyst | crookshanks: comment out the dh_strip line in debian/rules probably |
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| 17:15.40 | vedant | why does the finch package require some gnome packages too? I don't think finch needs gnome.. |
| 17:16.03 | crookshanks | \amethyst: there isn't one |
| 17:16.23 | amitz | hmm, a simpler question: what is the jdk location of sun-java6-jdk of debian lenny? |
| 17:16.29 | newfeats | are there any available enhancements for the gnome desktop in v5? v4 looked plain. |
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| 17:18.26 | \amethyst | vedant: it depends on the dbus and avahi libraries indirectly through libpurple |
| 17:18.41 | \amethyst | vedant: you can do aptitude why <packagename> to see why a particular package is being pulled in |
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| 17:19.12 | \amethyst | vedant: it also depends on gstreamer directly; I don't see any dependencies on GNOME GUI libraries |
| 17:19.28 | \amethyst | (glib isn't GUI and isn't GNOME-specific) |
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| 17:22.19 | crookshanks | got it, haveta set DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=nostrip,noopt |
| 17:22.20 | vedant | \amethyst: I see gconf2 etc.. |
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| 17:25.46 | keith4_ | what the hell? why does nagios-nrpe-plugin depend on nagios3 now? when did that happen? |
| 17:25.52 | \amethyst | vedant: aha, finch Recommends: gstreamer0.10-plugins-good |
| 17:26.00 | \amethyst | vedant: which depends on the gconf libraries |
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| 17:26.45 | \amethyst | vedant: if you use apt-get --no-install-recommends or aptitude -R you should be able to install finch without gstreamer0.10-plugins-good |
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| 17:34.28 | efaistos | does some use JBOSS ? do you know by default where JAVA_OPTS are defined ? |
| 17:34.37 | efaistos | s/are/is/ |
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| 17:35.24 | keith4_ | how do I force a package to install, without the dependencies? |
| 17:35.37 | efaistos | --force ? |
| 17:35.53 | vedant | uh oh, I just set a package to manually installed in apt-get.. How do I unset it? |
| 17:36.27 | keith4_ | efaistos: no |
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| 17:36.55 | ukwiz | how do I find out what version of debian I am using? uname -a doesn't give anythig useful |
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| 17:37.45 | keith4_ | cat /etc/debian_version |
| 17:39.17 | ukwiz | keith4_: that shows lenny/sid |
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| 17:39.38 | keith4_ | ukwiz: so... there's your answer |
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| 17:41.11 | hyper__ch | I downloaded a few days ago lenny testing netinstall and I wondered aren't there any updates for it? |
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| 17:42.12 | ukwiz | keith4_: but looking on http://www.debian.org/releases/ shows lenny as no release date yet, and no mention of sid |
| 17:42.59 | vedant | by the way, when will lenny be released? another week or two? or more than that? |
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| 17:43.16 | keith4_ | !wwlr |
| 17:43.16 | dpkg | Lenny (5.0) will release WIR, SIYH and RSN. It will not be released until while there are release critical bugs: http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical and see "Number concerning the next release". It might release before the end of 2008, but then again, it might not. Ask me about <wir> <siyh> <rsn> <lenny status> <lenny pool> and see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2008/07/msg00005.html |
| 17:43.40 | keith4_ | !tell ukwiz about grounding |
| 17:44.13 | keith4_ | hmm... that's not what i meant |
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| 17:44.42 | agnodyki | !lenny status |
| 17:44.42 | dpkg | Toolchain: frozen. Libs: frozen. Everything else: frozen. Now, it's serious bug squashing time. When will lenny release? Sooner if you help. See http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ for ideas how you can help. See also <rc-alert>. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2008/07/msg00007.html, or http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2008/09/msg00000.html |
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| 17:47.54 | sigp226 | What's the best way to install KDE on Debian sid? |
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| 17:48.31 | keith4_ | sigp226: ask dpkg about 'install kde' |
| 17:49.00 | amikrop | Hello. I am trying to install Debian etch from a USB but when I try to resize my main partition, I get a logged error message like: "Error: unable to determine new maximum size for partition". |
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| 17:49.04 | amikrop | Any help, please? |
| 17:50.08 | sigp226 | keith4: If you type "tasks=standard, kde-desktop" at the boot prompt of the installer, does it install the 'kde' metapackage? |
| 17:50.16 | ukwiz | keith4_: so where does sid come into the picture? |
| 17:50.43 | keith4_ | sigp226: no idea |
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| 17:50.48 | keith4_ | !tell sigp226 about kde |
| 17:51.04 | amikrop | It is kind of urgent. |
| 17:51.10 | keith4_ | ukwiz: /msg dpkg sid |
| 17:51.15 | amikrop | So, any help would be appreciated very much. |
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| 17:51.31 | sigp226 | aptitude install kde ? |
| 17:51.49 | Strapon | yes sector clear |
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| 17:52.07 | Per41kHate | yo |
| 17:52.14 | Per41kHate | i am Gangsta |
| 17:52.19 | Strapon | USA is under atomic strike, danger!!! |
| 17:52.48 | Per41kHate | USA sucks |
| 17:52.49 | Strapon | russia bombing pentagon |
| 17:52.57 | sigp226 | slaps Strapon with a huge trout. |
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| 17:53.09 | epsilon | bombing with ICMP or SYN? |
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| 17:54.27 | jelly | bombing with borsch |
| 17:55.09 | jelly | stew: you could have optimized out one deop and op! |
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| 17:55.34 | stew | jelly: i optimized for number of keystrokes instead |
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| 17:55.48 | dustybin | when i send a mail using squirrelmail, the text changes as soon as i send the email, like this: I am applying for the |
| 17:55.51 | dustybin | what causes that? |
| 17:56.02 | xingu | optimisation makes the wrong idea faster |
| 17:56.04 | jelly | obviously stew beats borsch |
| 17:56.39 | xingu | I had that as a .sig for a while; until one day a (software, naturally) developer took it as a personal affront and bitched |
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| 17:57.35 | tCzern | where does debian store the ifconfig settings? |
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| 17:57.58 | epsilon | you mean /etc/network/interfaces ? |
| 17:58.18 | tCzern | yes, this file is empty however |
| 17:58.30 | epsilon | then fill it |
| 17:58.32 | tCzern | although ifconfig -a shows the esttings |
| 17:58.36 | tCzern | settings |
| 17:58.49 | stew | tCzern: are you using network-manager? |
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| 17:59.16 | stew | tCzern: are you using 64studio? |
| 17:59.22 | tCzern | yes, but I want to configure eth1394, it does not show in Network Manager |
| 18:00.12 | ukwiz | keith4_: why would my debian version show sid? |
| 18:00.21 | amikrop | !could not determine maximum size |
| 18:00.31 | sigp226 | Is KDE 4.x in sid? |
| 18:00.34 | amikrop | Hello. I am trying to install Debian etch from a USB but when I try to resize my main partition, I get a logged error message like: "Error: unable to determine new maximum size for partition". |
| 18:00.34 | keith4_ | ukwiz: why do you care? |
| 18:00.39 | tCzern | stew: no |
| 18:00.41 | stew | sigp226: not yet |
| 18:00.51 | sigp226 | stew: Any idea on when? |
| 18:00.55 | keith4_ | parts of it were in experimental, last i checked |
| 18:01.04 | keith4_ | try #debian-kde |
| 18:01.13 | stew | sigp226: the kde devs are saying within one week after lenny releases |
| 18:01.29 | epsilon | so take a while |
| 18:02.23 | ukwiz | keith4_: because sid is supposed to be unstable |
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| 18:02.39 | keith4_ | !tell ukwiz about version |
| 18:02.55 | stew | ukwiz: you are talking about /etc/debian_version ? |
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| 18:03.12 | keith4_ | if you don't know what sid is.. you're probably not using it |
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| 18:03.21 | stew | hah, i wish |
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| 18:04.00 | stoned | hey |
| 18:04.03 | ukwiz | stew: yes |
| 18:04.06 | stoned | whats going on in the world of #debian |
| 18:04.07 | stew | ukwiz: it is normal for testing's /etc/debian_version to say testin/unstable or in this case lenny/sid, since the base_files package containing this file isnt' changed when moving from unstable to testing |
| 18:04.29 | stew | ukwiz: when lenny is very close to release a upload directly to lenny will be made |
| 18:04.34 | ukwiz | steve: ah! thanks |
| 18:05.17 | amikrop | I am trying to install Debian etch from a USB but when I try to resize my main partition, I get a logged error message like: "Error: unable to determine new maximum size for partition". |
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| 18:06.12 | keith4_ | amikrop: why are you resizing a partition? |
| 18:06.21 | amikrop | keith4_: to create a new one |
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| 18:06.40 | keith4_ | you have not provided enough information for anyone to make a useful suggestion, i think |
| 18:07.53 | limpio | hi all, how do i open a gz file from the terminal? |
| 18:08.01 | amikrop | keith4_: What information would you need? |
| 18:08.25 | jpinx | amikrop: you'll need to tell us a lot more about your HDD's for that to make sense |
| 18:08.36 | amikrop | jpinx: tell me what you need to know |
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| 18:09.07 | jpinx | amikrop: what are you trying to resize? |
| 18:09.14 | amikrop | jpinx: a partition |
| 18:09.18 | keith4_ | pretend that we don't know anything about your computer, and can't read your mind. now explain what you're doing |
| 18:09.29 | JyZyXEL | lol i tried to make a gpg key thingy |
| 18:09.38 | JyZyXEL | it says my computer doesn't have enough random bytes |
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| 18:10.13 | JyZyXEL | Not enough random bytes available. Please do some other work to give |
| 18:10.13 | JyZyXEL | the OS a chance to collect more entropy! (Need 284 more bytes) |
| 18:10.30 | THE_GFR|WORK | hey everyone I have icewm and iceweasel running. I need flash support. I got the flashplugin-nonfree installed. but none of the flash stuff displays correctly any assistance? |
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| 18:11.31 | stew | JyZyXEL: sometimes "find /" would generate more. if you are connected locally, move the mouse |
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| 18:13.21 | JyZyXEL | stew didn't work |
| 18:13.29 | keith4_ | run updatedb |
| 18:13.39 | keith4_ | go to / and do du -sh * |
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| 18:14.00 | stew | JyZyXEL: then wait |
| 18:14.10 | JyZyXEL | i wonder if it will detre |
| 18:14.13 | amikrop | keith4_: I am trying to install Debian (using a USB). I already have Ubuntu installed, so I want to resize the Ubuntu partition, in order to make space, to create a new partition for Debian. |
| 18:14.15 | JyZyXEL | detect when there is enough |
| 18:14.24 | JyZyXEL | i don't feel like writing the information again |
| 18:14.36 | dustybin | amikrop: rm -rf /ubuntu |
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| 18:14.47 | stoned | dustybin, stfu will ya? |
| 18:14.56 | JyZyXEL | awesome command |
| 18:14.59 | amikrop | keith4_: And I am doing this through partman dusring the install process. And I get this error message: "Error: Unable to determine new maximum size for partition". |
| 18:15.02 | stoned | amikrop, you can use debian installer's partman to resize the partition |
| 18:15.10 | stoned | hm |
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| 18:15.16 | amikrop | stoned: I tried to do so. |
| 18:15.16 | JyZyXEL | debian is too optimized |
| 18:15.18 | stoned | thats an error not encountered by me before |
| 18:15.27 | JyZyXEL | its hard to generate 284 random bytes |
| 18:15.27 | stoned | amikrop, can you google the error see whats up? |
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| 18:15.49 | amikrop | stoned: I didn't found much. Actually, after the search, I came to ask here because I didn't find a solution. |
| 18:15.53 | amikrop | * didn't find |
| 18:15.54 | stoned | I see |
| 18:16.02 | JyZyXEL | this is ridiculous |
| 18:16.04 | lavren_ | any kernel developers in here? |
| 18:16.09 | JyZyXEL | #kernel |
| 18:16.10 | stoned | lavren_, ##kernel |
| 18:16.15 | lavren_ | yeah |
| 18:16.21 | lavren_ | just haven't gotten an answer in there |
| 18:16.22 | lavren_ | thnx |
| 18:16.27 | stoned | ##linux |
| 18:16.36 | amikrop | stoned: I used debian installer's partman, and I got this error. |
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| 18:16.42 | stoned | amikrop, I'm thinking |
| 18:16.50 | stoned | wheels are i motion |
| 18:17.04 | stoned | amikrop, you have a live cd? |
| 18:17.06 | amikrop | stoned: It was an ext3 partition. SATA. |
| 18:17.11 | amikrop | stoned: no |
| 18:17.21 | stoned | can yo ustart a live cd and try to resize partition using something else like parted? |
| 18:17.24 | amikrop | * It _is_ a ext3 partition |
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| 18:17.47 | stoned | partition type doesnt matter, its the partition table type that is more than likely an issue |
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| 18:18.06 | amikrop | stoned: Actually, there isn't any way of running gparted from within Ubuntu, and resize the partition, because it is in use, right? |
| 18:18.14 | stoned | amikrop, right |
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| 18:18.22 | amikrop | :-/ |
| 18:18.30 | stoned | amikrop, you should be able to download a live cd and try that |
| 18:18.44 | stoned | I remember this exact error when trying to actually install ubuntu |
| 18:18.53 | stoned | I was trying to resize a debian parition |
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| 18:19.06 | amikrop | So, I need a live CD? Actually I didn't want to get involved with CDs, that's why I used a USB for installation. But If it is necessary, then OK... |
| 18:19.16 | stoned | I had 3 disks and many partitions and nothing would calculate the proper size, and i kept getting this mesage |
| 18:19.30 | stoned | amikrop, I just gave up on ubuntu and stuck to debian |
| 18:19.37 | amikrop | stoned: Weird. This bug must be fixed. |
| 18:19.50 | stoned | this is across debian and ubuntu, and I'm sure it trickled in from debian |
| 18:19.56 | stoned | as that is used to build ubuntu |
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| 18:20.12 | amikrop | :-( |
| 18:20.14 | hackman127 | I've got a mac xserve running Debian, and I have no idea how to get the thing to turn itself back on after a power failure. Any ideas? |
| 18:20.15 | stoned | amikrop, check the debian installer bugs on bts? |
| 18:20.21 | amikrop | stoned: no |
| 18:20.25 | stoned | amikrop, you can also check partman for bt |
| 18:20.27 | stoned | bts |
| 18:20.34 | Neaai | amikrop: gparted website has a livecd .iso which is 94M in size. You can't download that, burn it and use it? |
| 18:20.36 | stoned | perhaps this is documented and a workaround is there |
| 18:20.42 | stoned | Neaai, sweet |
| 18:20.50 | amikrop | stoned: what/where is bts? |
| 18:20.51 | stoned | amikrop, that is a great solution proposed by Neaai |
| 18:20.55 | stoned | !tell amikrop -about bts |
| 18:21.31 | Neaai | amikrop: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=115843&package_id=271779 |
| 18:21.51 | JyZyXEL | so i made the gpg key thingy |
| 18:22.05 | JyZyXEL | should i now transfer is somehow to all my machines? |
| 18:22.45 | rjent | Greetings, if I wanted to install an older version of a package where would I find older .deb packages at for a given package say smbfs? |
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| 18:23.43 | THE_GFR|WORK | hey everyone I have icewm and iceweasel running. I need flash support. I got the flashplugin-nonfree installed. but none of the flash stuff displays correctly any assistance? |
| 18:24.26 | Neaai | THE_GFR|WORK: Do they display at all? |
| 18:24.39 | THE_GFR|WORK | Neaai: yes kind of... but not correctly |
| 18:25.01 | amikrop | stoned: I see. Thank you. I decided to wipe Ubuntu out, and install Debian. But first, I would like to ask you a couple of questions, please. |
| 18:25.02 | THE_GFR|WORK | like some of the flash stuff will show the loading bar but nothing else |
| 18:25.42 | Neaai | THE_GFR|WORK: what version of the plugin is it? Maybe it's old, idk. |
| 18:26.04 | THE_GFR|WORK | Neaai: I did an apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree |
| 18:26.21 | amikrop | I have this nVidia graphics card: GeForce FX Go5650. Is there a proprietary driver in Debian, for this card? |
| 18:26.26 | amikrop | ( stoned ) |
| 18:26.38 | Neaai | THE_GFR|WORK: you can check in iceweasel, at the address bar type "about:plugins" |
| 18:26.58 | stoned | amikrop, sure |
| 18:27.01 | stoned | amikrop, I'm here |
| 18:27.29 | THE_GFR|WORK | Neaai: it shows as installed |
| 18:27.31 | stoned | THE_GFR|WORK, you should add debian-multimedia and use flashplayer-mozilla package |
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| 18:27.42 | amikrop | stoned: OK. Is there anything similar to Ubuntu's ubuntu-restricted-extras? |
| 18:27.44 | stoned | its an updated package, usually flash 10, and works fine, on all debians IME |
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| 18:27.51 | THE_GFR|WORK | stoned: hold on |
| 18:27.53 | stoned | amikrop, no clue what that is |
| 18:28.09 | stoned | amikrop, I'm guessing its ubuntu's equivalent of non-free and contrib? |
| 18:28.12 | THE_GFR|WORK | stoned I don't know how |
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| 18:28.21 | stoned | !tell THE_GFR|WORK -about dmm |
| 18:28.30 | amikrop | stoned: This meta-package installs sun's java, flash, unrar, microsoft's fonts... |
| 18:28.52 | valdyn | amikrop: debian does not have such a package |
| 18:28.55 | stoned | THE_GFR|WORK, add deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main to sources.list, update, and install mplayer w32codecs flashplayer-mozilla |
| 18:28.57 | klync | i'm setting up spamassassin with exim4 and cyrus imapd ... it looks like incoming mail is not getting scanned, although i edited the transports and acls for exim4 (and restarted) ... can anyone point me to where i can start debugging this? |
| 18:28.59 | stoned | or whatever |
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| 18:29.07 | stoned | amikrop, easy |
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| 18:29.13 | THE_GFR|WORK | stoned hold on |
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| 18:29.35 | Neaai | stoned: would that work for lenny too ? |
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| 18:29.38 | stoned | amikrop, aptitude install sun-java6-plugin zip unzip rar unrar arj p7zip msttcorefonts |
| 18:29.42 | valdyn | klync: where did you edit that? which file? |
| 18:29.49 | stoned | Neaai, what? |
| 18:30.07 | amikrop | stoned: OK. Thank you. I am going to install Debian now. See you. :-) |
| 18:30.09 | stoned | amikrop, but first you need to enable contrib non-free in sources.lis |
| 18:30.14 | Neaai | stoned: the debian-multimedia sources.list line |
| 18:30.15 | stoned | !tell amikrop about non-free |
| 18:30.25 | stoned | Neaai, it would be fine in lenny if you change etch to lenny |
| 18:30.41 | stoned | Neaai, you should go to www.debian-multimedia.org and read the instructions |
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| 18:30.44 | klync | valdyn: conf.d/acl/40_exim4-config_check_data and conf.d/main/02_exim4-config_options |
| 18:30.45 | stoned | !dmm |
| 18:30.45 | dpkg | dmm is probably Debian Multimedia, a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for patent-related reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat. For information on how to use this repository, see http://debian-multimedia.org/ or ask me about <debian-multimedia.etch> |
| 18:30.46 | JyZyXEL | anyone know programs for sharing video streams with frinds? |
| 18:30.47 | Neaai | stoned: yes with that change as well. Seems cool. |
| 18:31.03 | stoned | THE_GFR|WORK, what is unclear? |
| 18:31.05 | klync | valdyn: and then i ran update-exim4.conf and restarted |
| 18:31.08 | stoned | THE_GFR|WORK, do what I just told Neaai to do |
| 18:31.23 | valdyn | klync: so the changes are deleted again now? |
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| 18:32.05 | klync | valdyn: oh, do those get overwritten by update-exim4.conf? is there a macro to have those kept in? (i just uncommented what was there already) |
| 18:32.17 | valdyn | klync: have a look.. |
| 18:32.19 | klync | checks |
| 18:32.25 | stoned | JyZyXEL, uhm...vlc does streaming |
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| 18:32.40 | stoned | I've never done it, but I know it does |
| 18:33.08 | klync | valdyn: nope, they're there still |
| 18:33.09 | JyZyXEL | stoned but like multiple |
| 18:33.12 | JyZyXEL | and audio |
| 18:33.15 | JyZyXEL | like conference shit |
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| 18:33.53 | valdyn | klync: update-exim4.conf merges update-exim4.conf.conf with exim4.conf.template to generate conf.d files |
| 18:34.00 | valdyn | klync: thats all, probably does not affet you |
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| 18:34.17 | THE_GFR|WORK | stoned: I tried it but it failed to install it gave me errors about unmet dependencies how do I fix this? |
| 18:35.14 | stoned | THE_GFR|WORK, pastebin your console output please |
| 18:35.19 | valdyn | klync: i cant help you directly, no idea, but i can read /etc/init.d/exim4 and it makes mention of a variable $EX4DEBUG that you could set |
| 18:35.21 | stoned | !paster THE_GFR|WORK |
| 18:35.21 | dpkg | Please don't paste in the channel. Visit http://paste.debian.net/paste or http://rafb.net/paste to upload your information and then give us the URL. Ask me about <pastebin> for other alternatives. |
| 18:35.31 | Neaai | JyZyXEL: vlc does streaming. in the same lan I have used it to watch the same movie plaied in one host and some other 5 people watched it at their own desks. But I can't remember how exactly it was done, I remembered we fiddled a lot with multicast/unicast/udp/rtp etc combination of settings. |
| 18:35.34 | stoned | JyZyXEL, try one line |
| 18:35.39 | klync | valdyn: k, you've been a great help - i updated the template file, let's see if that does it |
| 18:35.42 | klync | thanks |
| 18:35.47 | stoned | !valdyn++ |
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| 18:35.58 | JyZyXEL | Neaai no but conference shit |
| 18:36.09 | stoned | JyZyXEL, what do you mean conference? |
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| 18:36.17 | stoned | you want to share a video stream and chat about it? |
| 18:36.19 | JyZyXEL | like everyone sees everyones vids |
| 18:36.21 | JyZyXEL | and you can chat |
| 18:36.23 | stoned | ahh |
| 18:36.31 | stoned | yeh thats not gonna be possible anytime soon |
| 18:36.33 | stoned | :) |
| 18:36.37 | klync | the thing i hate about this is that i'm sitting here wishing some spam would come in... makes me feel dirty |
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| 18:36.42 | stoned | unless you buy prop. software |
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| 18:36.47 | stoned | AND hardware |
| 18:37.04 | stoned | 1 on 1 is a breeze, but what you're talking about, nothing like this exists in open source afaik |
| 18:37.08 | stoned | and I know a bit. |
| 18:37.23 | JyZyXEL | stoned lol are you serious |
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| 18:37.28 | THE_GFR|WORK | stoned: http://pastebin.com/d267d86a |
| 18:37.31 | stoned | unfortunately yes |
| 18:37.32 | JyZyXEL | that shit has been around for like 20 years |
| 18:37.37 | Neaai | klync: hehe. Register in some porn sites with any email address of yours, and I'm sure within tomorow you can have a lot of spam to disect. ^^ |
| 18:37.50 | JyZyXEL | there is even crappy Adobe |
| 18:37.52 | JyZyXEL | FL |
| 18:37.53 | stoned | JyZyXEL, thats exactly why you are asking here. |
| 18:37.54 | Balo^ | Hi, hi do I make a program autostart at startup? (The non graphical way since I'm on a server) |
| 18:37.55 | stoned | fantastic. |
| 18:37.57 | JyZyXEL | FLash implementations |
| 18:38.01 | stoned | THE_GFR|WORK, hang on |
| 18:38.24 | valdyn | Balo^: which program? |
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| 18:38.28 | stoned | THE_GFR|WORK, which debian release do you have? |
| 18:38.31 | Balo^ | valdyn; an ircd |
| 18:38.42 | stoned | THE_GFR|WORK, what did you put into your sources.list and what did you type? |
| 18:38.46 | valdyn | Balo^: read /etc/init.d/README |
| 18:38.55 | THE_GFR|WORK | stoned: what you told me to put in there |
| 18:38.59 | klync | Neaai: if only i had done this last week, before that giant spam operation got shut down - the reduction has been very noticeable over here |
| 18:39.09 | stoned | THE_GFR|WORK, please answer my questions |
| 18:39.38 | Neaai | klync: speakng of which... what's all this about the spam operation shutdown ? |
| 18:39.46 | THE_GFR|WORK | stoned: I said what you told me to put in to the sources.list |
| 18:39.58 | stoned | THE_GFR|WORK, which debian release do you have? |
| 18:40.07 | stoned | THE_GFR|WORK, can you pastebin what you put into sources.list? |
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| 18:40.14 | Neaai | klync: same for me. There's like the last 3-4 days that Im like "my server is not right. there's not enough spam coming in" :p |
| 18:40.19 | THE_GFR|WORK | hold on stoned |
| 18:40.26 | stoned | THE_GFR|WORK, it seems you have a diff debian release than the one you are downloading from dmm |
| 18:40.34 | klync | Neaai: http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/11/18/219204 for starters |
| 18:40.38 | stoned | if you are on etch, then use etch in dmm line |
| 18:40.45 | stoned | if you are on lenny, obviously you should use lenny |
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| 18:40.53 | Neaai | klync: only now, from you, I hear there's a spam operation. |
| 18:40.55 | stoned | if you are only looking for flash, you don't need mplayer or w32codecs |
| 18:40.58 | klync | lol |
| 18:41.06 | Neaai | klync: oh great. I'm off to read. |
| 18:41.08 | THE_GFR|WORK | stoned: exactly all I need is the flash stuff |
| 18:41.09 | Neaai | :D |
| 18:41.17 | stoned | THE_GFR|WORK, the only package you need is flashplayer-mozilla for the correct debian release |
| 18:41.36 | THE_GFR|WORK | hmm stoned hold on lemme see what's going on had to reboot the box |
| 18:41.39 | stoned | THE_GFR|WORK, if you won't answer my questions, I am afraid I will be unable to assist you further |
| 18:41.46 | stoned | there is no need to reboot |
| 18:41.48 | stoned | !reboot |
| 18:41.48 | dpkg | You want to reboot for WHAT?? If it's not a new kernel or a hardware change, you probably don't need to reboot. Ask me about <qotd2>. |
| 18:42.28 | karsten | Neaai: McColo was de-peered. Dropped global spam volumes by about60%. Site got back online last weekend apparently to transfer data to Russian hosts to allow resumption of control of botnets. |
| 18:42.36 | stoned | karsten ! |
| 18:42.46 | stoned | netsrak |
| 18:42.50 | THE_GFR|WORK | stoned: hold on! |
| 18:42.54 | Neaai | karsten: klync: oh my OH MY! This is GREAT news. |
| 18:43.17 | stew | THE_GFR|WORK: you are trying to install mplayer which was compiled for testing or unstable but you are running stable. can you show us the output of "apt-cache policy ; apt-cache policy mplayer" ? |
| 18:43.41 | THE_GFR|WORK | stew: all I need is flash installed and working |
| 18:43.46 | stoned | stew, I told him that |
| 18:43.54 | THE_GFR|WORK | stoned: what do you need again? |
| 18:44.02 | stoned | THE_GFR|WORK, stew told you exactly what I told you |
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| 18:44.11 | stoned | THE_GFR|WORK, just show me your sources.list line for dmm |
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| 18:44.20 | THE_GFR|WORK | stoned: hold on |
| 18:44.23 | mid5 | Hi at all, anyone knows what difference there are between smathost and mailertable, I want to configure mail mail server for send all traffic to my ISP, how can I do it, with smarthost or mailertable??? |
| 18:44.30 | karsten | Neaai: The good part is that upstreams are starting to de-peer known spamming operations. The bad news is that spammers are awefully good at relocating their ooperations. That said, it really is a testament to how concentrated spam ops actualy are, and if the C&C can be disrupted, some level of takeback might be effected. |
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| 18:44.35 | mid5 | this on sendmail |
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| 18:44.46 | stew | THE_GFR|WORK: what id preventing you from having flash installed and working? |
| 18:44.46 | Neaai | karsten: does that mean that spam activity will resume? damn! |
| 18:44.50 | DVSoftware | jelly: resio sam problem sa localedef --force -v -i sr_CS\@Latn -f UTF-8 sr_RS.UTF-8\@latin |
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| 18:45.09 | karsten | mid5: Why in the name of all that's holy are you using sendmail? |
| 18:45.12 | Neaai | karsten: I mean as regarding to all the sh!t being transfered to russia ? |
| 18:45.14 | stoned | stew, I'm trying to get him to use the updated flash package from dmm |
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| 18:45.25 | karsten | Niamor: Exim4 or Postfix are *vastly* easier to configure for that. |
| 18:45.30 | jelly | DVSoftware: ugh! |
| 18:45.31 | karsten | Neaai: ?? |
| 18:45.31 | stoned | stew, nothing stops him, and I'd appreciate it if you didn't jump in |
| 18:45.39 | stoned | stew, Im handling it. |
| 18:45.49 | mid5 | karsten, yes I use sendmail |
| 18:45.54 | jelly | DVSoftware: jebiga, kad se drzava svako malo mijenja :-| |
| 18:46.02 | DVSoftware | haha, da :) |
| 18:46.06 | stoned | jelly, speak english or be toast! |
| 18:46.19 | stoned | cracks his lightning fingers! |
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| 18:46.31 | THE_GFR|WORK | stoned: can I pm you? |
| 18:46.32 | Neaai | karsten: as you mentioned that the site was back online to transfer botnet control to russia. I take this is not-so-good news. |
| 18:46.34 | stoned | THE_GFR|WORK, no |
| 18:46.41 | jelly | stoned: I can be toast and jelly if you'll be my peanut butter! |
| 18:46.41 | karsten | mid5: If you *must* use sendmail, I'd suggest you learn the m4 and sendmail.conf syntax yourself. There's an excellent 12000 page overview on the topic from O'Reilly. |
| 18:46.46 | stoned | Neaai, #debian-chat please |
| 18:47.05 | THE_GFR|WORK | stoned: I can't pastebin the lines of my list |
| 18:47.06 | Neaai | mid5: I'd suggest you shy away from sendmail. |
| 18:47.07 | stoned | jelly, hehe :) Alas I'm no a woman |
| 18:47.09 | karsten | Neaai: Right. We'll see how long it takes for the botnets to come back. Spamcop.org has a stats page showing overall spam volume. |
| 18:47.13 | stew | THE_GFR|WORK: why can't you? |
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| 18:47.29 | karsten | What's the new chanserv service for querying channels? |
| 18:47.31 | stoned | THE_GFR|WORK, its ok, just paste one line in here, the one concerning debian-multimedia |
| 18:47.32 | THE_GFR|WORK | stew it tripped their spam filter or something |
| 18:47.34 | themill | karsten: alis |
| 18:47.35 | stew | karsten: alis |
| 18:47.41 | karsten | tx. |
| 18:47.44 | stew | THE_GFR|WORK: use paste.debian.net |
| 18:47.56 | THE_GFR|WORK | I added this line stoned deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main |
| 18:48.07 | stoned | THE_GFR|WORK, you are using etch? |
| 18:48.17 | stew | THE_GFR|WORK: and what exactly is the problem? |
| 18:48.18 | THE_GFR|WORK | stoned: I do not know |
| 18:48.27 | karsten | mid5: /join #sendmail if you must. I repeat: exim4 and/or postfix can set this up for you trivially. If you're just running a desktop, use them. |
| 18:48.30 | mid5 | karsten, Ok, I read documentation, but I confuse with both issues |
| 18:48.32 | stew | THE_GFR|WORK: the error about mplayer you posted before? or something else? |
| 18:48.48 | THE_GFR|WORK | stew: when I try to view flash stuff it shows the loading bar if there is one but nothing actually displays when it is done "loading"\ |
| 18:48.48 | stoned | THE_GFR|WORK, cat /etc/debian_version |
| 18:49.00 | THE_GFR|WORK | hold on |
| 18:49.12 | THE_GFR|WORK | stoned: 4.0 |
| 18:49.15 | mid5 | karsten, yes I'm there, but at the moment I get request |
| 18:49.26 | stoned | THE_GFR|WORK, aptitude upate; aptitude install flashplayer-mozilla |
| 18:49.33 | stoned | THE_GFR|WORK, what does that do |
| 18:49.38 | stoned | update* |
| 18:49.41 | karsten | mid5: unless you're doing enterprise (say, 10,000+ accounts) level email configuration, Sendmail is yesterday's news. And even then, Exim / Postfix are probably preferable. |
| 18:49.44 | THE_GFR|WORK | stoned: I did it installs successfully |
| 18:49.48 | stew | THE_GFR|WORK: if you go to "about:plugins" which plugin does it say you are using for flash? |
| 18:49.50 | stoned | THE_GFR|WORK, does your flash work now? |
| 18:49.53 | stoned | THE_GFR|WORK, test youtube |
| 18:50.00 | THE_GFR|WORK | stoned: it does not work yet |
| 18:50.29 | stoned | ok |
| 18:50.41 | mid5 | karsten, jeje, yes, but I have sendmail for also 4 years, and my server still has sendmail |
| 18:50.42 | stoned | I'm not sure but does flash10 work on etch? |
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| 18:51.11 | Neaai | mid5: if you can, get away from sendmail. If you can't, try to get away from sendmail. If you still fail, fight your way out of sendmail. My time to administer the mta droped more than 50% when I switched to exim and by now, I swear, I've forgotten all there's to know about sendmail. |
| 18:51.19 | jelly | karsten: qmail! |
| 18:51.21 | themill | stoned: no |
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| 18:51.22 | jelly | hides |
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| 18:52.13 | jelly | karsten: my "enterprise" antispam system supports only sendmail and postfix on the incoming servers |
| 18:52.26 | fiendishfish | Does anyone know how to get around compiling troubles in 2.6.26 kernel with this bug: bugs.debian.org/484838 |
| 18:52.36 | xingu | mid5: you want smarthost for that application |
| 18:52.37 | THE_GFR|WORK | also stoned it says I have an old version of flash player or java turned off |
| 18:52.40 | Neaai | mid5: I had the same fears before switching. But exim claims to be a complete drop-in replacement for it in all aspects and yes, that's true. |
| 18:52.42 | THE_GFR|WORK | when I go to youtube |
| 18:52.42 | stoned | and dmm has which flash for etch? |
| 18:52.47 | mid5 | Neaai, yes, also I prefer qmial or another, but for the moment I only have this way |
| 18:52.53 | stoned | THE_GFR|WORK, what says about:plugins for the version of flash? |
| 18:53.00 | THE_GFR|WORK | hold on |
| 18:53.17 | stew | THE_GFR|WORK: you perhaps just need to run "update-alternatives --config flash-mozilla.so", you might be using gnash or swfdec-mozilla instead |
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| 18:53.41 | jelly | fiendishfish: that bug is marked as fixed |
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| 18:53.45 | THE_GFR|WORK | shockwave flash 9 r124 |
| 18:53.50 | \amethyst | fiendishfish: what version of sysprof-module-source do you have? |
| 18:53.57 | karsten_ | jelly: So you've got the option to use postfix ;-) |
| 18:54.01 | mid5 | xingu, I don't know how works smarthost, only I want to sendmail for to isp |
| 18:54.03 | stoned | THE_GFR|WORK, ls -l /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins |
| 18:54.11 | THE_GFR|WORK | hold omn |
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| 18:54.19 | karsten_ | jelly: ... or you could configure a front-end, specifically configured, sendmail instance. |
| 18:54.26 | jelly | karsten_: not much of an option, is it. and sendmail does filtering-before-queue |
| 18:54.34 | THE_GFR|WORK | ok |
| 18:54.34 | THE_GFR|WORK | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 15348 2006-07-25 07:22 libflash-mozplugin.so |
| 18:54.35 | THE_GFR|WORK | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8104280 2008-10-17 13:06 libflashplayer.so |
| 18:54.45 | stoned | aha |
| 18:54.47 | fiendishfish | \amethyst: I've downloaded the current one, but I have no clue what version the debian kernel has :( |
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| 18:54.54 | stoned | so thats what you need to do then |
| 18:54.59 | stoned | do what stew said |
| 18:55.05 | THE_GFR|WORK | uh I did |
| 18:55.15 | THE_GFR|WORK | No alternatives for flash-mozilla.so. |
| 18:55.20 | stoned | hm |
| 18:55.23 | xingu | mid5: the exact rationale is buried but basically smarthost knocks out good chunks of the mx lookup which is exactly what you seem to want |
| 18:55.42 | stoned | hm |
| 18:55.48 | karsten | jelly: ?? Um, my point was that you _can_ use postfix, ergo, Sendmail isn't necessary. |
| 18:55.51 | stoned | this is indeed gettig strange now |
| 18:55.59 | THE_GFR|WORK | yea |
| 18:56.05 | THE_GFR|WORK | well I'm using icewm and iceweasel |
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| 18:56.10 | stoned | it doesn't matter |
| 18:56.14 | THE_GFR|WORK | ok |
| 18:56.16 | karsten | jelly: Also, pretty much anything but qmail is compatible with Sendmail commands. It would be interesting to see if your AS solution works w/ Exim4. |
| 18:56.43 | karsten | mid5: I had to reconnect, may have missed something |
| 18:56.44 | xingu | rather likes sendmail |
| 18:56.51 | fiendishfish | Also, /window 4 |
| 18:56.53 | fiendishfish | oops. |
| 18:56.57 | stoned | xingu, here is a gun |
| 18:57.03 | stoned | xingu, start target practice on your feet |
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| 18:57.18 | karsten | sends xingu his pattented electroshock toilet seat and urinal aim reinforceer. |
| 18:57.19 | THE_GFR|WORK | stoned: now what? |
| 18:57.21 | mid5 | karsten, ok, thanks, no problem |
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| 18:57.49 | stoned | THE_GFR|WORK, not sure, indeed flash is being weird.. you see no video but you hear audio? |
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| 18:57.55 | stoned | at least? |
| 18:58.02 | THE_GFR|WORK | stoned: nope |
| 18:58.03 | stoned | or does nothing show up at all? |
| 18:58.14 | stoned | it tries to load and then hat? |
| 18:58.18 | stoned | what?* |
| 18:58.19 | jelly | karsten: it's not commands, it's libmilter or postfix' content_filter |
| 18:58.27 | THE_GFR|WORK | stoned: on youtube it says I have either an old version of flash or java turned off |
| 18:58.35 | stoned | javascript, but go on |
| 18:58.44 | THE_GFR|WORK | stoned: could it be I don't have javaVM installed or something? |
| 18:58.44 | mid5 | xingu, Ok, then the way is smarthost |
| 18:58.45 | stoned | java!=javascript |
| 18:58.48 | stoned | no |
| 18:58.52 | stoned | it has nothing to do with java |
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| 18:59.10 | THE_GFR|WORK | sorry yea javascript |
| 18:59.38 | karsten | jelly: OK. |
| 18:59.42 | mid5 | karsten, xingu, I'll search on google examples of configurations for that |
| 18:59.44 | THE_GFR|WORK | dunno what to do then |
| 18:59.45 | stoned | dare I suggest... flash on a desktop.. might as well move to lenny? |
| 18:59.47 | karsten | jelly: How large is your installation? |
| 18:59.48 | el_guillermo | i see others having problems with adobe flash 10 |
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| 18:59.59 | stoned | I have no problems with flash 9 or 10 in any debian |
| 19:00.05 | el_guillermo | oh |
| 19:00.06 | stoned | and I use the packages from marillat |
| 19:00.13 | stoned | only always from him |
| 19:00.18 | THE_GFR|WORK | hmm |
| 19:00.18 | dv___ | I'm using the 64bit flash 10 alpha |
| 19:00.20 | mid5 | karsten, xingu, Neaai thanks for the help |
| 19:00.23 | dv___ | pretty stable so afar |
| 19:00.24 | dv___ | -a |
| 19:00.29 | stoned | yup |
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| 19:00.37 | THE_GFR|WORK | hmm |
| 19:00.49 | stew | THE_GFR|WORK: you should remove the older libflash-mozplugin.so from that directory |
| 19:00.54 | dv___ | even in youtube, where they used to freeze |
| 19:00.54 | Neaai | mid5: no biggie. I didn't do much :) |
| 19:00.56 | stew | THE_GFR|WORK: that is probably one that you installed by hand |
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| 19:01.17 | THE_GFR|WORK | stew: what do you mean? |
| 19:01.18 | stoned | hmm |
| 19:01.23 | stoned | hadn't thought of that, it might work |
| 19:01.28 | THE_GFR|WORK | how? |
| 19:01.41 | Neaai | THE_GFR|WORK: this might sound stupid, but http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/productinfo/instructions/#section-3 has .deb packages and instructions. Have you tried it ? |
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| 19:01.48 | stoned | THE_GFR|WORK, as root, rm /usr/lib/mozilla/libflash-mozplugin.so |
| 19:01.50 | stoned | ? |
| 19:02.06 | stoned | Neaai, don't promote those debs please |
| 19:02.08 | THE_GFR|WORK | stoned: I tried the .deb package it failed installation correctly |
| 19:02.16 | stew | THE_GFR|WORK: you said that ls -l /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins contains two different so files, i'm suggesting you remove the one from 2006 which is libflash-mozplugin.so |
| 19:02.28 | Neaai | stoned: oh, I didn't know there's an issue. What's with them ? |
| 19:02.28 | stew | THE_GFR|WORK: can you show us how it failed? |
| 19:02.35 | stoned | Neaai, not supported here. |
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| 19:03.04 | Neaai | stoned: oh I see. Won't happen again. |
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| 19:03.34 | THE_GFR|WORK | hold on |
| 19:03.47 | jelly | karsten: about yay big. 1.5E6 messages/day |
| 19:03.58 | THE_GFR|WORK | I just removed the 2006 one |
| 19:03.59 | stoned | jelly, thats a lot |
| 19:04.00 | karsten | jelly: Tiny. |
| 19:04.48 | jelly | heh |
| 19:04.48 | karsten | jelly: .... since 95% of that is spam ;-) |
| 19:04.48 | stoned | what? tiny |
| 19:04.48 | stoned | thats huge! |
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| 19:04.48 | jelly | karsten: that's without spam |
| 19:04.48 | xingu | forces stoned and karsten to use exchange as a relay |
| 19:04.48 | stoned | whats the matter with you, you on rack? |
| 19:04.48 | karsten | jelly: Feh. |
| 19:04.48 | stoned | :) |
| 19:04.48 | jelly | karsten: well... without _detected_ spam |
| 19:04.48 | THE_GFR|WORK | I think now stoned it's actually working |
| 19:04.49 | stoned | yes, thank stew for that idea |
| 19:04.49 | karsten | xingu: been there, done that, imap + procmail is your freind. |
| 19:04.49 | a-9 | I'm using consolechar lat9w-16 in my virtualbox debian box. I use it for studying. This way I do not damage my real Debian Lenny box. I use only tty to study in vbox. I'd like to make fonts bigger. Is there a way ? |
| 19:04.51 | karsten | friend. |
| 19:04.55 | stoned | I should've thought to remove the 2nd one from there |
| 19:05.02 | jelly | karsten: 4.5E6 before any filtering |
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| 19:05.05 | karsten | jelly: Solution: declare 95% of that spam ;-) |
| 19:05.07 | THE_GFR|WORK | stoned, stew you guys rock! |
| 19:05.14 | stoned | THE_GFR|WORK, #Debian rocks |
| 19:05.21 | stoned | modafocka! recognize! |
| 19:05.26 | valdyn | a-9: why not X? |
| 19:05.28 | THE_GFR|WORK | :D |
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| 19:05.41 | THE_GFR|WORK | hold up lemme try one more site and see what happens |
| 19:05.44 | jelly | actually, debian/rules |
| 19:05.50 | stoned | indeed it does |
| 19:06.44 | stoned | man |
| 19:06.55 | stoned | I wonder why no one has pacakged php-gtk yet... |
| 19:07.06 | xingu | karsten: bah, there's nothing that can't be done with a little judicous use of m4; you haven't lived until you've configured netcat as your local mailer |
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| 19:07.36 | a-9 | I have fluxbox in the virtual debin box, and I use ~/.Xdefaults with: urxvt-big*font: xft:DejaVu Sans Mono:style=Bold:size=17 That gives me a big font, but since I don't have much ram, I prefer just to use ttys in the virtual debian. |
| 19:07.39 | THE_GFR|WORK | stoned: yea turns out it was a bad plugin and the flashplugin-mozilla did it |
| 19:07.47 | jelly | xingu: mailer? smtp service! |
| 19:08.02 | THE_GFR|WORK | stoned: my original issue was I did not know what repository and plugin I needed to make it work |
| 19:08.03 | xingu | beats jelly up with a bat book |
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| 19:08.17 | THE_GFR|WORK | stoned it turns out in the end lol |
| 19:08.19 | stoned | xingu, THE_GFR|WORK you can make it work with flashplayer-nonfree from debian |
| 19:08.21 | stoned | no big deal |
| 19:08.30 | stoned | but I prefer and promote marillat packages of dmm for flash too |
| 19:08.40 | stoned | don't ask me why, I've always found them to be better quality |
| 19:08.43 | jelly | xingu: there's a copy left untouched since... '03 or so |
| 19:09.01 | valdyn | a-9: theres various packages doing this.. but why dont you log in via ssh? |
| 19:09.21 | THE_GFR|WORK | hmm stoned: question any good speed test programs for internet connections from the command-line? |
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| 19:09.38 | stoned | nothing you can't do in browser |
| 19:09.44 | stoned | but a simple ping may do it? |
| 19:09.44 | keith4_ | wget |
| 19:09.47 | stoned | :) |
| 19:09.53 | keith4_ | time + netcat |
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| 19:10.02 | stoned | or that |
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| 19:10.14 | THE_GFR|WORK | stoned: well this is a P2 300 Mhz laptop btw |
| 19:10.20 | karsten | xingu: I've sent mail via netcat. How'd you set it as your router? |
| 19:10.20 | stoned | sweet! |
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| 19:10.40 | a-9 | valdyn: Wow. What simple and great idea. I use ssh in this virtual debian to study the ssh itself. I haven't realized that I could log in and study anyway. Great! |
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| 19:11.17 | Nigromante | hello world |
| 19:11.28 | stoned | !greet Nigromante |
| 19:11.28 | dpkg | Hi there, Nigromante |
| 19:11.32 | a-9 | Anyway I got curious about making fonts larger or using a very large font. |
| 19:11.37 | THE_GFR|WORK | stoned: any ideas? |
| 19:11.44 | stoned | THE_GFR|WORK, about? |
| 19:12.02 | stoned | sorry I lost my previosu train of thought |
| 19:12.18 | Nigromante | My question: how to get rt73 usb wifi adapter to work in Lenny? |
| 19:12.22 | RoenieSrvr | stew, i got the Zen working with a tool called Gnomad2 , it allows me to xfer files. it's the most unstable p.o.s. i've ever used too |
| 19:12.25 | THE_GFR|WORK | stoned: a good internet connection speed test program for command-line debian |
| 19:12.35 | stoned | THE_GFR|WORK, why? |
| 19:12.56 | valdyn | a-9: framebuffer at a resolution of your choice in console + the console-setup package |
| 19:13.02 | xingu | karsten: define(`LOCAL_MAILER_PATH', `...')dnl ... (and _ARGS) ... then tweak LOCAL_RULE_3, of course. |
| 19:13.22 | valdyn | a-9: but this is really awkward compared to just using ssh naturally, the linux console is not made for this |
| 19:13.27 | stoned | THE_GFR|WORK, just find a 10mb file somewhere on the net and wget it |
| 19:13.32 | jelly | what's a good way to figure out resolutions available in a VESA BIOS? The card is an i945GME |
| 19:13.32 | THE_GFR|WORK | stoned: I need to check the speed of the internet connection at the remote location where this laptop is setup |
| 19:13.51 | THE_GFR|WORK | stoned: heh but is there a good site/specific program for that? heh |
| 19:13.55 | xingu | karsten: or LOCAL_RULE_0 depending on objective ;) |
| 19:13.57 | valdyn | a-9: the fb can only be configured once - at boot time or fb load time ( if you have to use the vesafb ) |
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| 19:14.03 | stoned | THE_GFR|WORK, login to the remote server, cat /dev/random > /tmp/blah |
| 19:14.24 | stoned | THE_GFR|WORK, then put it in your document root and wget blah from somewhere or put |
| 19:14.24 | a-9 | valdyn: Sorry. What is not console made for ? |
| 19:14.27 | stoned | soemthing |
| 19:14.32 | stoned | I dunno man |
| 19:14.39 | THE_GFR|WORK | stoned: thanks |
| 19:14.43 | stoned | :( |
| 19:14.46 | stoned | yw |
| 19:14.51 | valdyn | a-9: the linux console is ancient and not made for modern fonts ( it does not support utf-8 ) |
| 19:14.53 | karsten | xingu: you're a stranger man than I ;-) |
| 19:15.10 | a-9 | valdyn: OK. Thanks for your time. |
| 19:15.11 | karsten | valdyn: It doesn't? |
| 19:15.14 | xingu | karsten: if it all starts to get out of control there's MAILER_DEFINITIONS, a suitably placed hash map, and mailertable+genericstable |
| 19:15.24 | stoned | THE_GFR|WORK, I do not know of any cli tools to test internet speed |
| 19:15.40 | valdyn | karsten: no, can only be hacked to display a certain amount of utf-8 chars at a time |
| 19:15.49 | THE_GFR|WORK | stoned: alright thanks for all the great help |
| 19:15.55 | limpio | hifi, on a minimal install, if i don't want to install xorg - what apps should i install? xorg-core? |
| 19:15.56 | stoned | yup |
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| 19:17.29 | karsten | limpio: Install what you want/need. If you just need client support, install the X clients you want and the deeps will handle the restfor you. |
| 19:17.32 | stoned | limpio, x-window-system-core |
| 19:17.34 | stoned | !setup x |
| 19:17.35 | dpkg | To install X in etch or later "aptitude install xorg" , you may also want to install a window manager or ask me about <install gnome>, or <install kde>, or <install xfce>, or <install fluxbox>. To reconfigure your X server, ask me about <drxx>. |
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| 19:18.00 | stoned | oh I misread |
| 19:18.07 | stoned | xbase-clients |
| 19:18.22 | stoned | thats all you need, if you don't want xorg on your box, but you want to be able to use ssh -X |
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| 19:18.32 | stoned | for certain x apps |
| 19:19.15 | karsten | limpio: You only need an X server if you plan on running a display on the machine's monitor. If you're doing remote X, you only need X client support. |
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| 19:19.59 | karsten | limpio: ... and as stoned said, xbase-clients is what's needed for remote display. Installing *any* client will drag that along as a dependency, so no need to install it directly. |
| 19:20.22 | stoned | oh cool |
| 19:20.27 | stoned | I wasn't fully upto speed on the depends of it |
| 19:20.54 | karsten | stoned: apt wins ;-) |
| 19:21.03 | stoned | yes, yes it does |
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| 19:21.33 | Supercazzora | hi |
| 19:21.47 | stoned | whats goin' on Supercazzora |
| 19:22.02 | Supercazzora | please I need help on bluetooth; (03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)) |
| 19:22.07 | Supercazzora | that is |
| 19:22.29 | stoned | no clue about that |
| 19:22.31 | Supercazzora | I got wireless works but not the bluetooth |
| 19:22.32 | limpio | stoned, i thought x-window-system-core went out with Etch, thank you guys! |
| 19:22.37 | stoned | I have a sweet tooth problem... |
| 19:22.46 | stoned | pops a few m&ms |
| 19:22.57 | delire | stoned: you're clearly stoned. |
| 19:23.08 | stoned | haven't been since march 12 2008, but thanks for asking. |
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| 19:23.43 | valdyn | Supercazzora: you sure that device supports bluetooth? |
| 19:23.46 | valdyn | Supercazzora: i dont think so.. |
| 19:23.58 | Supercazzora | valdyn, ok, so what is it? |
| 19:24.08 | valdyn | Supercazzora: i wireless network interface |
| 19:24.17 | Supercazzora | valdyn, yes it is a wireless chip |
| 19:24.26 | abrotman | not all wireless chips do bluetooth |
| 19:24.39 | Supercazzora | valdyn, but it worked with vista |
| 19:24.46 | valdyn | Supercazzora: no |
| 19:24.49 | abrotman | that doesn't mean *that* device is for bluetooth |
| 19:24.53 | valdyn | Supercazzora: that chip does not do bluetooth |
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| 19:24.59 | abrotman | Supercazzora: paste all your `lspci -nn` and `uname -a` in a pastebin |
| 19:25.05 | Supercazzora | abrotman, sure |
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| 19:25.52 | Supercazzora | abrotman, http://pastebin.com/d51f18c83 |
| 19:26.04 | Supercazzora | Linux ATHLON64M 2.6.26-1-amd64 #1 SMP Thu Oct 9 14:16:53 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 19:27.19 | Supercazzora | abrotman, it's an usb adapter? |
| 19:27.19 | Supercazzora | abrotman, integrated webcam works very well :) |
| 19:27.29 | abrotman | maybe it's internal USB ? |
| 19:27.35 | abrotman | does lsusb show any devices ? |
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| 19:27.57 | anddam | hello |
| 19:28.05 | Supercazzora | abrotman, http://pastebin.com/m36f42e52 |
| 19:28.16 | abrotman | Supercazzora: try an lsusb -v |
| 19:28.24 | Supercazzora | abrotman, ok |
| 19:28.28 | abrotman | oh wait .. the Chicony must be the webcam |
| 19:28.44 | Supercazzora | abrotman, yes it is the webcam |
| 19:28.59 | abrotman | that makes no sense |
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| 19:30.23 | Supercazzora | abrotman, chicony is the webcam |
| 19:30.30 | abrotman | i got that |
| 19:30.41 | Supercazzora | abrotman, but no bluetooth |
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| 19:30.56 | zo_orki | is there any possibility to delete files with similar names? i'm using stremripper so i've got a lot of files nearly with the same name, but the checksum is different so fdupes does not work |
| 19:31.42 | XLV | Supercazzora, enable bluetooth in vista, then do a soft reboot to debian.. maybe you got it powered off in vista and its not altering state when it boots debian, so it cant be found |
| 19:32.02 | Supercazzora | XLV, ahaha there's no Vista anymore |
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| 19:35.07 | abrotman | did you check linux-laptop.net ? |
| 19:35.14 | Supercazzora | abrotman, no |
| 19:36.01 | Supercazzora | abrotman, there's no presario f780el |
| 19:37.03 | abrotman | Supercazzora: dmesg | grep -i blue |
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| 19:37.49 | stew | Supercazzora: do you have a hardware switch that controls bluetooth? |
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| 19:38.01 | stew | Supercazzora: or a fn-f? combination that enable/disables bluetooth? |
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| 19:38.15 | Supercazzora | abrotman, http://pastebin.com/m5ff8afdf |
| 19:38.23 | stew | Supercazzora: does a bluetooth device show up when you run hciconfig -a ? |
| 19:38.29 | Supercazzora | abrotman, but I loaded bluetooth modules by hand |
| 19:38.35 | abrotman | oh |
| 19:38.45 | Supercazzora | stew, no |
| 19:39.06 | stew | Supercazzora: to which question? |
| 19:39.07 | Supercazzora | stew, I got a switch under the keyboard, it becomes blue when it was on vista |
| 19:39.13 | Supercazzora | stew, the second |
| 19:41.50 | Supercazzora | stew, the swith is useless |
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| 19:43.13 | aetheria | hi all. just installed and am running compiz under gnome. but how to get translucent window borders? |
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| 19:43.27 | aetheria | hi all. just installed and am running compiz under gnome. but how to get translucent window borders? |
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| 19:43.34 | Supercazzora | stew, switch seems to effects only wifi |
| 19:43.52 | tCzern | where can I check on Firewall settings in Gnome? |
| 19:44.11 | stew | Supercazzora: does a bluetooth device show up when you run "hciconfig -a"? |
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| 19:44.19 | Supercazzora | stew, no |
| 19:44.19 | stew | tCzern: "iptables -L -n" |
| 19:45.26 | tCzern | ok |
| 19:45.45 | tCzern | any user interface, for checkboxess? |
| 19:46.33 | Supercazzora | stew, the switch works only on wifi |
| 19:46.44 | abrotman | tCzern: did you setup a firewall? |
| 19:46.48 | Supercazzora | stew, strange! |
| 19:47.06 | tCzern | just ran the installer of the distro |
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| 19:49.02 | up365 | aetheria, #compiz-fusion, someone there would know/help |
| 19:50.16 | Supercazzora | stew, I become to think that there's no bluetooth at all :) buahahahù |
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| 19:53.52 | maurizio_ | tCzern: "apt-cache search firewall gtk" returns firestarter, which may be what you want. I don't know it though. |
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| 19:54.19 | tCzern | thanks! |
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| 19:55.44 | krushik | are there packages for pppoe connection in first debian CD? |
| 19:56.34 | abrotman | yes |
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| 19:58.07 | shams | i install apache2, php5, libapache2-mod-php5 and apache started. but i can't execute a php file. why? help me, please. |
| 19:58.34 | stew | shams: execute how? from the command line? or hitting a page on the webserver? |
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| 19:59.25 | epsilon | to execute via command shell, you need php-cli |
| 19:59.46 | epsilon | and if it doesnt work via apache, check apache log first |
| 20:00.14 | shams | stew: no, from browser. when i try to surf a php file, browser pops a save as popup window. |
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| 20:00.26 | stew | shams: try running "a2enmod php5" |
| 20:00.48 | Devyll | how can I install debian net install on a dell pr R300 ? It doesn't recognize my broadcom eth |
| 20:01.12 | shams | stew: i run this command in past |
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| 20:01.52 | shams | stew: but can't execute it |
| 20:02.07 | stew | shams: run it now. if it says that php5 is already enabled, then the problem is likely some configuration local the virtual host or directory containing that .php file |
| 20:02.58 | ma3x | who has experienced following symptoms on their computer: you restart your pc and then suddenly everything is so slow, you think the hd works at 72 rpm instead of 7200 and the bootloader takes forever to display, let alone boot any os |
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| 20:04.05 | RichiH | 4/w 81 |
| 20:04.17 | shams | stew: when i try to atenmod it says Module php5 already enabled. but i know that problem isn't from php file. because i install phpmyadmin. and i can't run it from localhost/phpmyadmin |
| 20:04.31 | shams | atenmod=a2enmod |
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| 20:05.07 | stew | shams: then the problem is with some configuration in the VirtualHost containing the php file or a Directory entry or a Files entry or a .htaccess file |
| 20:06.02 | djdarkman | hello, I've installed lenny, but I accidently selected some kind of option to use windows dns service, and now my resolv.conf is always reseted to nameserver 192.168.0.1 , how can I disable this? |
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| 20:06.39 | shams | stew: but i don't change any configuration file, i only install they and want to run phpmyadmin by default configuration |
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| 20:07.02 | djdarkman | some kind of service keeps reseting periodicly my /etc/resolv.conf to this: |
| 20:07.09 | djdarkman | domain mshome.net |
| 20:07.11 | djdarkman | search mshome.net |
| 20:07.12 | djdarkman | nameserver 192.168.0.1 |
| 20:07.18 | stew | djdarkman: please don't paste in here |
| 20:07.23 | stew | djdarkman: are you using dhcp? |
| 20:07.34 | karsten | djdarkman: How are you setting your IP address? dhcp often sets your resolver. Otherwise edit /etc/resolv.conf |
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| 20:08.06 | karsten | djdarkman: You can also configure dhcp to not change your resolver. RTFM. |
| 20:08.31 | lou_gr | Hi does anyone know why icedove opens links in dillo and how I can change this setting? |
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| 20:08.48 | stew | lou_gr: try "update-alternatives --config x-www-browser" |
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| 20:09.06 | djdarkman | stew: sorry I tought 3 line pastes are legal, I'm using pppoe, but I don't understand, how come it removes all entrys from /etc/resolve.conf |
| 20:09.06 | lou_gr | thanks stew |
| 20:09.21 | akurei | hey, i just installed Lenny on an iBook G4, but i can't seem to get right klick (formerly on F12) working. any ideas? |
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| 20:10.17 | stew | djdarkman: i'd recommend using the resolvconf package |
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| 20:11.15 | Supercazzora | stew, my god! |
| 20:11.23 | Supercazzora | stew, there's no bluetooth |
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| 20:11.45 | stew | Supercazzora: you mean that your laptop doesn't have a bluetooth adapter installed? |
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| 20:12.06 | Supercazzora | stew, yes... switch is only for wifi |
| 20:12.08 | HellMind | Where is the correct way to put modprobe ip_nat_ftp :D? |
| 20:12.11 | anddam | Supercazzora: you almost have GNE |
| 20:12.11 | stew | Supercazzora: this would explain all the problems you've been having :) |
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| 20:12.25 | Supercazzora | stew, very strange |
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| 20:12.36 | Supercazzora | stew, no reference to bluetooth on the manual |
| 20:12.38 | stew | HellMind: /etc/modules but without the 'modprobe' just list the module, assuming that what you are trying to do is make sure it is loaded at runtime |
| 20:12.47 | Supercazzora | stew, and no reference to bluetooth on the net!!! |
| 20:12.55 | HellMind | ok |
| 20:13.17 | stew | HellMind: if you want it loaded when your firewall is started, put it in the script that sets up your firewall |
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| 20:13.45 | HellMind | my connection is 24hs online dunno which |
| 20:13.48 | HellMind | to choose |
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| 20:16.57 | djdarkman | okay karsten I will RTFM, if you tell me where |
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| 20:17.18 | Supercazzora | stew, I'm looking on the compaq/hp site :) |
| 20:17.54 | stew | djdarkman: install resolvconf and read /usr/share/doc/resolvconf/README.gz |
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| 20:23.16 | akurei | nvmd i fixed it |
| 20:23.41 | Supercazzora | stew, I got the phone jack on it :) conextant! |
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| 20:27.56 | ampex | is the etch debian kernel really untouched since Feb of 2007? |
| 20:28.17 | Guerin | ampex: no. |
| 20:28.36 | ampex | this is out of date then? |
| 20:28.38 | ampex | http://packages.debian.org/etch/kernel-package |
| 20:29.04 | Guerin | that's not the kernel |
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| 20:29.51 | Guerin | as a cursory read of the big, bold letters which say "A utility for building Linux kernel related Debian packages." would tell you |
| 20:30.57 | anddam | is there a way to see what groups of packages are keeping the most disk space? |
| 20:30.57 | ampex | ahhh, ok, so it's Jan of 2008 |
| 20:30.59 | ampex | a bit better |
| 20:31.00 | stew | ampex: kernels are named "linux-image-*" |
| 20:31.27 | Guerin | ampex: instead of making up numbers, would you mind actually having a clue? |
| 20:31.32 | anddam | I've lot of unused packages and would like to shrink used space |
| 20:31.35 | Guerin | ampex: hint: security.debian.org |
| 20:31.41 | ampex | Guerin: http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux-latest-2.6/linux-latest-2.6_6etch3/changelog |
| 20:31.47 | ampex | Guerin: this is wrong now as well? |
| 20:32.18 | Guerin | ampex: security.debian.org changelogs are the authoritative reference. |
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| 20:32.44 | ampex | so because the debian website is misleading and contains incorrect information about which packages are the latest, I need to get a clue? |
| 20:32.46 | stew | ampex: http://packages.qa.debian.org/l/linux-2.6.24.html |
| 20:33.09 | stew | ampex: [2008-10-23] Accepted 2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.6 in stable-security (high) (dann frazier) |
| 20:33.20 | ampex | ahh, cool |
| 20:33.38 | stew | ampex: or http://packages.qa.debian.org/l/linux-2.6.html |
| 20:33.42 | stew | which is more recent |
| 20:33.42 | Guerin | ampex: no, because you don't know how to get the correct information from your chosen OS, and somehow think that's not your problem, you need to get a clue. |
| 20:33.43 | ampex | I wasn't aware that there was an official 2.6.24 etch kernel available |
| 20:33.57 | stew | ampex: /msg dpkg etchnhalf |
| 20:34.48 | stew | ah, no, linux-2.6 is not more recent in stable, they were both uploaded the same day |
| 20:35.24 | anddam | in order to use rt2x00 driver do I need to rebuild the whole kernel? |
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| 20:35.45 | mhymn_ | stew: i'm just curious, why you didn't recommend the .26 in bpo? |
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| 20:36.02 | stew | !m-a anddam rt2x00 |
| 20:36.02 | dpkg | anddam: to compile and install rt2x00 for your running kernel: aptitude install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i rt2x00 && modprobe rt2x00 ; if this works echo rt2x00 >> /etc/modules ; also ask me about <m-a> |
| 20:36.08 | OpenTokix | omg the idle-kick sux |
| 20:36.14 | stew | mhymn_: to whom? |
| 20:36.31 | mhymn_ | stew: to ampex |
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| 20:36.54 | stew | mhymn_: i'm not recommending a kernel to him. i'm helping him find information about when kernels in stable were last updated |
| 20:37.04 | anddam | stew: I think I already tried the rt2x00 but does the rt2x00-source support Master mode? |
| 20:37.21 | anddam | stew: anyway I'm not sure and I'm gonna try asap |
| 20:37.28 | stew | mhymn_: if he was looking for a recommendation, i'd still not recommend the bpo kernel, becuase it is not guaranteed to get security support |
| 20:37.32 | anddam | aptitude is running |
| 20:37.41 | stew | anddam: i don't know anything about rt2x00 |
| 20:37.45 | Guerin | anddam: when I installed it, it didn't |
| 20:37.48 | mhymn_ | stew: hmm, thanks |
| 20:38.09 | anddam | stew: well you knew about the dpkg hint.. |
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| 20:38.22 | Guerin | anddam: that was 6-8 months ago. I now run obsd on that machine, since their driver isn't utter shit. |
| 20:38.23 | anddam | Guerin: so no Master mode, right? |
| 20:38.31 | anddam | :-) |
| 20:38.35 | stew | anddam: what does "uname -r" say? |
| 20:38.44 | anddam | 2.6.25 I think |
| 20:38.47 | Guerin | anddam: right. And limited to 11Mbit in ad-hoc |
| 20:38.55 | anddam | 2.6.25-2-686 |
| 20:39.03 | stoned | Guerin, yo |
| 20:39.08 | Guerin | anddam: (and it wouldn't work at all with WEP off) |
| 20:39.12 | anddam | Guerin: that'd be not a problem as my card is an Asus WL-130b |
| 20:39.24 | Guerin | oh, ok. |
| 20:39.26 | stew | anddam: then you should already have rt2x00 in your kernel without having to recompile anything: /msg dpkg rt2x00 |
| 20:39.38 | Guerin | oh, it's in the kernel now. Nifty. |
| 20:39.52 | Guerin | stoned: yo. |
| 20:39.53 | anddam | stew: I have it, but I want Master mode |
| 20:39.56 | Guerin | -> work |
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| 20:40.52 | loXx | is it usefull to set up an iptables-firewall for a machine behind a hardware router with firewall function? the machine does not offer any services. |
| 20:41.13 | petemc | loXx: i wouldnt think so |
| 20:41.18 | ampex | loXx: only if you want to protect the machine from other machines in your local network |
| 20:41.36 | ampex | loXx: although there's no point in blocking access if nothing is listening |
| 20:43.26 | loXx | ok, thanks. |
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| 20:44.48 | loXx | what about cups? there is a cups server in this local network. should it be firewalled? |
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| 20:45.12 | stew | loXx: what ip address is it listening to? |
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| 20:45.41 | loXx | stew: local |
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| 20:46.15 | kdas | please direct me to a better channel if this is not appropriate, but i am running debian and tcpick i want to know how to sed/awk/grep/whatever the output from tcpick in following manner: print only the stream which is between 2 ip addys that contain "foozball". any help ? |
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| 20:46.33 | stew | loXx: 127.0.0.1? |
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| 20:47.46 | OpenTokix | kdas: what does a line from tcpick loook like? |
| 20:47.53 | loXx | stew: 192.168.0.0/24 |
| 20:48.28 | stew | loXx: do you want users on that network to be able to connect to your cups page? |
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| 20:49.09 | loXx | stew: yes i do |
| 20:49.19 | stew | loXx: then you wouldn't want to firewall it |
| 20:49.49 | kdas | OpenTokix, http://pastebin.com/m19cff0eb |
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| 20:51.19 | OpenTokix | kdas: and you want all the lines with two certain ips? |
| 20:51.22 | myosound | does anyone know the package name I would install to get cyrus-sasl? |
| 20:51.23 | OpenTokix | kdas: just grep three tiems? |
| 20:51.25 | OpenTokix | times |
| 20:51.35 | OpenTokix | grep "ip" | grep "ip2" | grep "string" |
| 20:51.49 | loXx | stew: ok :) |
| 20:52.07 | kdas | OpenTokix, no i want it so that lets say there is the word "porn" in one of those streams then it prints that stream from IP to IP |
| 20:52.56 | OpenTokix | kdas: -B and -A |
| 20:53.21 | OpenTokix | kdas: grep -B 5 -A 5 "string" Then you get five lines before and five lines after, from the "hit" |
| 20:53.49 | stew | OpenTokix: "-B 5 -A 5" is the same as "-C 5" :) |
| 20:54.10 | OpenTokix | stew: no, same as -C 11 |
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| 20:54.25 | kdas | OpenTokix, what ? |
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| 20:54.44 | kdas | each stream can have more, and will have more, then just 5 lines |
| 20:54.52 | stew | OpenTokix: no, -C 5 |
| 20:54.53 | OpenTokix | kdas: -B 200 |
| 20:55.06 | \amethyst | OpenTokix: no, try it... at least here -C 5 means five lines of context on each side |
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| 20:55.45 | OpenTokix | coolers |
| 20:55.56 | arpu | hello can anyone help with sympa on debian ? and more domains ? |
| 20:56.13 | OpenTokix | kdas: if you want let's say five lines on each side, you write -C 5, if you want 3 before and 7 after you write -B 3 -A 7 |
| 20:57.15 | OpenTokix | Everyone happy with that explaination? |
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| 20:57.20 | kdas | OpenTokix, i understand what you are saying, but is there another way like sed /regexpr4ip/,/regexpr4ip/ | only if "porno" is between that ? |
| 20:57.57 | OpenTokix | kdas: if you want to do it in a gazillion ways, just use perl |
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| 20:58.43 | kdas | OpenTokix, no simple sed/awk way? |
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| 20:59.35 | OpenTokix | kdas: im no regexp-expert, and since we don't know exactly what you are after. It's hard. - I personally always use butt-ugly combinations of grep and cut =) |
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| 21:01.10 | Zap-W | hhowto enable packet fragmentation for packets being forwarded in linux |
| 21:02.03 | koeppea | Zap-W, what do you mean with fragmentation? |
| 21:02.19 | kdas | OpenTokix, hahha.. thats understandable. what i want is what i showed you, the streams come in as such;http://pastebin.com/m19cff0eb and i want to grab from when each stream starts so i have the ip first (thats why -c 5 will not work cuz it might grab more then the first ip) and i fin that stream the word "porn" exists then print that stream :) |
| 21:02.41 | Zap-W | koeppea: what you mean what i mean |
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| 21:02.54 | kdas | s/i fin/if in |
| 21:02.55 | Zap-W | koeppea: it isn't fragmanting packets larger than the interface mtu |
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| 21:04.10 | koeppea | Zap-W, Which type of packet? ICMP? TCP? UDP? |
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| 21:05.17 | renton_ | hello i have a debian lenny, if (from Gnome) i go in the "Computer" windows, i see two of the NTFS partitions on my disk. If I double click on them, it says: Invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume 'Media'. |
| 21:05.36 | renton_ | should I manually add them to fstab? or it can happen automatically? |
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| 21:06.15 | scientes | can i convert my ubuntu install to a debian one? |
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| 21:06.20 | kdas | renton_, i would try to mount them manually first then when you figure out the problem edit fstab |
| 21:06.45 | OpenTokix | kdas: the -A, -B and -C can be any number to suit your needs. ofc. |
| 21:06.47 | renton_ | kdas: ok |
| 21:06.56 | kdas | scientes, yes,sorta of, if you have a separate partition for /home |
| 21:07.21 | scientes | ok i know that way just copy all my dpkg -l and the install the same packages |
| 21:07.21 | renton_ | kdas: in few words, you think that lenny doesn't add NTFS partitions to be automatically mounted? thanks |
| 21:07.53 | kdas | OpenTokix, yea bu the thing is that i don't know how many lines before each "porn" expression is the first ip aka the host that sent that stream |
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| 21:08.24 | mysteryc | Hey. |
| 21:08.26 | kdas | renton_, i think that ntfs partitions suck and need a lot of help |
| 21:08.39 | koeppea | Zap-W, You do not need to enable such a "fragmentation". In the case of TCP the software stack takes care using the MSS attribute to avoid TCP segments larger as the maximum allowed (in this case) frame-size of the underlying protocol. There is no feasable reason to to fragmentation twice. |
| 21:08.40 | renton_ | ok thanks |
| 21:08.42 | mysteryc | Is there a way to get nautilus in debian to work just like in Ubuntu? |
| 21:08.47 | OpenTokix | kdas: the -A, -B and -C can be any number to suit your needs. ofc. |
| 21:08.57 | OpenTokix | kdas: sorry, didnt mean to repeat myself |
| 21:09.06 | anddam | stew: here it is, I remembered why I can't use the default rt2400pci module |
| 21:09.09 | kdas | OpenTokix, ok i was about to shoot myself hahaha |
| 21:09.10 | anddam | [484731.427518] phy0 -> rt2x00mac_add_interface: Error - rt2x00 does not support Adhoc or Master mode< |
| 21:09.15 | OpenTokix | kdas: it isn't constant? |
| 21:09.47 | mysteryc | anddam: Hey, lol, remember me, i was asking here for help just before i switched to debian? ;) ;p |
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| 21:10.03 | defrysk | mysteryc, yes , go to edit >prefs of nautilus and look for always open in browser windows in the behaviour tab |
| 21:10.09 | anddam | mysteryc: what? |
| 21:10.14 | kdas | OpenTokix, no it varies, the stream might have porno 2 lines down in the Host: www.porno.com or 10 lines down in the body |
| 21:10.31 | OpenTokix | kdas: ok |
| 21:10.44 | OpenTokix | kdas: not sure then |
| 21:10.53 | kdas | OpenTokix, hahha. ok thanks anyway ;) |
| 21:10.55 | OpenTokix | kdas: I think you should let ppl porn-surf =) |
| 21:10.57 | OpenTokix | kdas: gl |
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| 21:11.35 | kdas | OpenTokix, haha. i basicaly just need to print mached string between to delimiters, which are ip addys |
| 21:12.28 | mysteryc | defrysk: Cool. And is there a way to get tabbed nautilus? I know you can on Ubuntu Interpid |
| 21:12.37 | Gm4n | how can I tell if a processor is 32 or 64bit? I'm looking at /proc/cpuinfo (booted debian live and cat-ed it) |
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| 21:13.09 | renton_ | i haev a stupid question, when i define a mount point, should I put it in /media ?? long time ago it was usualy /mnt i didn't understand why it changed |
| 21:13.19 | defrysk | mysteryc, you need a later version of nautilus than debian has |
| 21:13.49 | mysteryc | defrysk: Is the latest version supported? |
| 21:14.01 | defrysk | mysteryc, not even is sid |
| 21:14.06 | defrysk | in* |
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| 21:14.27 | mysteryc | defrysk: In what? :s |
| 21:14.30 | kdas | renton_, technically you can mount where ever, but i recommend you mounting to a place that your file manager recognizes |
| 21:14.31 | defrysk | sid |
| 21:14.36 | anddam | renton_: you can do as you like |
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| 21:14.51 | defrysk | mysteryc, sid , aka unstable |
| 21:14.57 | anddam | kdas: /mnt should be safe enough |
| 21:15.04 | renton_ | so /media is recognized by gnome? |
| 21:15.09 | mysteryc | defrysk: Oh, lol, right;p Yeah, im on lenny now :/ |
| 21:15.27 | defrysk | mysteryc, rock solid |
| 21:15.57 | kdas | anddam, ? |
| 21:16.00 | mysteryc | defrysk: You know, it's kinda stupid. I mean Ubuntu is not debian, it's based on debian and it's much more developed in certain ways that the original debian;p |
| 21:16.14 | anddam | <kdas> renton_, technically you can mount where ever, but i recommend you mounting to a place that your file manager recognizes |
| 21:16.27 | defrysk | mysteryc, ubuntu wil never be as stable and bugfree as debian |
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| 21:16.42 | anddam | I'm not sure what you meant with "recognize" but /mnt has a long tradition of being the default mount point |
| 21:16.56 | kdas | anddam, yea so what does that have to do with /mnt ? go dknows what file manager he is using, maybe it only reads what /media has to offer |
| 21:17.13 | renton_ | anddam: i'm using GNome.... |
| 21:17.17 | kdas | s/go dknows/god knows |
| 21:17.27 | renton_ | what's the file manager name of gnome? |
| 21:17.28 | mysteryc | defrysk: Yeah, true, ubuntu is much more buggy than debian but it still has some packages which are more developed than debian :s |
| 21:17.35 | kdas | renton_, nautilus |
| 21:17.40 | renton_ | Nautilus, yes |
| 21:17.46 | mysteryc | defrysk: Plus, they've got a cooler website;p |
| 21:17.52 | renton_ | so nautilus likes stuff to be mounted in /media ? |
| 21:17.54 | defrysk | mysteryc, not more developed, just earlyer in[lemented |
| 21:18.05 | kdas | mysteryc, not more developed but just more unstable and new |
| 21:18.29 | kdas | debian.org could use a make over though |
| 21:18.29 | defrysk | mysteryc, they have the cash debian has the source ;) |
| 21:18.53 | renton_ | they have good marketing men |
| 21:18.53 | anddam | kdas: I'm not sure why you put the file manager into the topic, I tought he was creating a new mount pount in mtab |
| 21:19.08 | mysteryc | defrysk: Uh, problem with nautilus. I did what you told me to get nautilus to work like in ubuntu, but now that i closed the window it's just as before :S |
| 21:19.31 | kdas | anddam, read his original question, before you start lecturing people |
| 21:19.37 | mysteryc | renton_: True, the guy who started the business put 10 000 000$ into it :s |
| 21:19.49 | defrysk | did you flag behave as browser mysteryc ? |
| 21:20.06 | mysteryc | defrysk: Meaning? |
| 21:20.06 | kdas | mysteryc, who put 10 million in what? |
| 21:20.26 | anddam | kdas: I'm serious, wasn't it "when i define a mount point, should I put it in /media ?? long time ago it was usualy /mnt i didn't understand why it changed" |
| 21:20.30 | defrysk | in the prefs of nautilus mysteryc |
| 21:20.38 | mysteryc | kdas: THe guy who started Ubuntu. Search up his name. He put 10 000 000$ into the promotion of Ubuntu |
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| 21:21.12 | anddam | kdas: not trying to lecture anyone |
| 21:21.13 | kdas | anddam, ;) read before that |
| 21:21.26 | stew | anddam: the design is that /mnt is for root to use temperoraily ; /media is used as tempoary mounpoints that users might use, but of course, do it however you please |
| 21:21.27 | renton_ | on my fedora/gnome laptop i see it mounts automatically things in /media.. and i think ubuntu do the same.. so maybe it's a Gnome/nautilus things to like things to be mount in /media... isn't ? |
| 21:21.28 | kdas | anddam, i know just helping :) |
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| 21:21.37 | mysteryc | defrysk: I typed nautilus in the root terminal and nautilus popped up so I changed it as you told me. But if, for example, I open the Computer icon from my desktop, nautilus have not changed :S |
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| 21:21.48 | defrysk | anddam, /media is used for automagically detected media |
| 21:22.12 | defrysk | like inserting a cdrom and whatnot |
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| 21:22.41 | stew | the media/mnt policy is here: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#MEDIAMOUNTPOINT |
| 21:22.51 | kdas | mysteryc, holy shit thats crazy. hahah 10 million for a freaking debian wannabe thats half as stable you would think you could make a new os with that money |
| 21:22.58 | defrysk | anddam, mountpoints in fstab can be mounted in any directtory you prefer |
| 21:23.01 | ubd | i have installed something called oss instead of alsa, now i want alsa drivers back what should i do |
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| 21:23.19 | kdas | anddam, haha, sorry didn't mean to get you lectured |
| 21:23.39 | anddam | defrysk: why are you telling me? |
| 21:23.41 | kdas | defrysk, thanks thats what i was trying to say l) |
| 21:23.46 | mysteryc | kdas: Yeah, I know, the guy was kinda stupid. But, look at Ubuntu now, one of the most popular OSs out there, even to the Microsoft 110% addicted geeks-wanna-be |
| 21:23.47 | anddam | kdas: np |
| 21:23.52 | ubd | yo |
| 21:23.58 | defrysk | kdas, make no mistake, he is going to make money on ubuntu |
| 21:24.04 | ubd | help me install alsa back pls |
| 21:24.16 | kdas | mysteryc, i won't say that but yea it is popular |
| 21:24.17 | ubd | i need this for work :*( |
| 21:24.22 | stew | ubd: how did you install oss? |
| 21:24.29 | kdas | defrysk, not 10 million any time soon hahaha |
| 21:24.39 | ubd | well stew, first of all it was hard, i dont really remember |
| 21:24.54 | stew | ubd: what does "uname -r" say? |
| 21:24.57 | mysteryc | kdas: You know, Debian should start promoting a bit more. |
| 21:25.00 | vdette | 'evening all... just wondering, what do you all use to manage cotacts in Terminal? Abook and Rolo seem not quit up to par to really edit/add/group contacts en masse |
| 21:25.06 | kdas | defrysk, its people like YOU and everyone else in this channel that steals people from Ubuntu and shows them debian so :P |
| 21:25.11 | vdette | contacts even... |
| 21:25.26 | ubd | 2.6.27-7-generic |
| 21:26.03 | stew | ubd: this is ubuntu? |
| 21:26.11 | anddam | my /var/cache/apt is like ~500Mb is it normal? |
| 21:26.11 | ubd | i dont know |
| 21:26.18 | defrysk | kdas, ubuntu users with some experience often switch to ubuntu eventually |
| 21:26.21 | ubd | this is xfce |
| 21:26.31 | mase | anddam tried "apt clean" |
| 21:26.33 | mase | ? |
| 21:26.36 | stew | ubd: what does "apt-cache policy libc6" say for Installed: ? |
| 21:26.36 | kdas | mysteryc, awww debian is an OG its like the search for the best restaurant, all the newbs are advertising but, if you eat out enough you will come to the best restaurant that don't need to advertise cuz its sooo good :) |
| 21:26.37 | anddam | mase: tried |
| 21:26.57 | ubd | Installed: 2.8~20080505-0ubuntu7 |
| 21:27.02 | mase | anddam "apt-get clean", sorry |
| 21:27.03 | anddam | mase: aptitude actually |
| 21:27.04 | defrysk | lol |
| 21:27.04 | kdas | defrysk, reconstruct your sentence ;) |
| 21:27.09 | stew | ubd: please go to #ubuntu for help with ubuntu |
| 21:27.20 | ubd | fuck ubuntu i dont want ubuntu |
| 21:27.27 | defrysk | ubd, or install debian ;) |
| 21:27.38 | mase | anddam how many sources (repositories) have you set? |
| 21:27.53 | ubd | goddamn fucker gave me a ubuntu disc |
| 21:27.57 | mysteryc | kdas: Yeah, but why not promote it so more people will get to know it? |
| 21:28.06 | OpenTokix | ubd: joke is on you! |
| 21:28.12 | kdas | ubd, are you joking me ? we are learning debian so we can switch to ubuntu |
| 21:28.13 | anddam | mase: 3 |
| 21:28.14 | kdas | hahahhahahah |
| 21:28.15 | renton_ | i think that debian is very conservative about package versions.. but sometimes users for specific packages wishes very new packages.. and apt pinning is not for "the masses", so maybe can be useful to simplify to install on a lenny stuff like pidgin 25.2 or openoffice3.. and so on |
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| 21:28.24 | mysteryc | ubd: Mind the language a bit. :) |
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| 21:28.30 | ubd | how do i remove oss, i installed it from a tar file |
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| 21:28.37 | mase | anddam well, its not normal ;) |
| 21:28.38 | stew | renton_: those will be backported to lenny after lenny releases |
| 21:28.41 | abrotman | ubd: either install debian or go to #ubuntu |
| 21:28.42 | kdas | mysteryc, i think/feel that everyone just don't give a shit |
| 21:28.46 | stew | ubd: please ask #ubuntu |
| 21:28.46 | ubd | pls help i am sure ubuntu guys know nothing |
| 21:28.49 | anddam | mase: glad to hear it |
| 21:28.55 | ubd | ubuntu is for gays |
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| 21:29.05 | defrysk | ubd, good luck with your efforts, but please go to #ubuntu |
| 21:29.05 | kdas | ubd, you are crazy!!! |
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| 21:29.24 | abrotman | ubd: Either install debian or ask #ubuntu .. You can get Debian from debian.org |
| 21:29.33 | myosound | ubd, ubuntu is just fine I run it on one of my laptops |
| 21:29.40 | mysteryc | kdas: Lol. Maybe, but they could do some changes. Like, their website, it's in need of a 21st century re-construction;p |
| 21:29.45 | abrotman | if you want to talk about ubuntu go to #ubuntu |
| 21:29.49 | stew | renton_: by 'backported to lenny', i mean, they should show up on backports.org for lenny sometime soon after the release |
| 21:30.10 | kdas | mysteryc, well you know debian is a community thing so feel free to help out ;) |
| 21:30.10 | anddam | mysteryc: they who? |
| 21:30.18 | stew | mysteryc: if you think you could help with the website, please contact http://lists.debian.org/debian-www |
| 21:30.21 | mysteryc | ubd: 1. Ubuntu is really great. 2. Learn to read, you are on #debian. 3. Learn to read, I told you to mind your language. |
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| 21:30.24 | mase | that lets me remember the protest poster "homosexuals are gay!" |
| 21:30.25 | anddam | mysteryc: debian website is great, almost fully fluid |
| 21:30.31 | kdas | mysteryc, you can redo the site or sponsor for a website change |
| 21:30.33 | stew | mysteryc: please ignore him |
| 21:30.39 | mysteryc | I love it so much when I get to tell people how to behave :D :p |
| 21:30.44 | stew | mase: please keep it on-topic |
| 21:30.56 | mase | oh sorry |
| 21:30.59 | defrysk | mysteryc, if you like a cool website go to slackware.org |
| 21:30.59 | mysteryc | anddam: Great? You might wanna take a look around the net ;) |
| 21:31.00 | renton_ | stew: i think an experienced user can do it easily with pinning (installing openoffice3, pidgin2.5.2) I just think that for some stuff like openoffice or pidgin or other popular things, can be nice to add some user-friendly way to instal them with ease. |
| 21:31.21 | stew | renton_: yes, that user-friendly way is backports.org:/msg dpkg bpo |
| 21:31.49 | mysteryc | kdas: I could sure help out with the web. I used to construct websites a while a go, I had a few online games and projects and stuff, but I kinda dropped lately but Ive been thinking to start again, so yeah, I could help :) |
| 21:31.54 | anddam | mysteryc: I do, mainly I think a website is a medium to communicate something not to present it in a fashion way |
| 21:32.12 | anddam | mysteryc: that said I like freebsd new website |
| 21:32.22 | mysteryc | anddam: Of course it is, but the better good-looking it is, the more attraction it will get ;) |
| 21:32.25 | renton_ | stew i think in this way debian would be always a distributions for servers or for computer-skilled people |
| 21:32.35 | anddam | has debian a mascot? |
| 21:32.41 | klync | right here |
| 21:32.42 | kdas | mysteryc, well then great maybe you will be the pioneer of a new debian.org make over :D |
| 21:32.48 | defrysk | mysteryc, debian is not a commercial distro |
| 21:32.58 | renton_ | i think that instaling some stuff like openoffice3 or pidgin2.5.2 on a stable debian should be easy also for a newbie. |
| 21:33.03 | mysteryc | anddam: A website is probably the first tool that an organization/company should think of. Everybody uses the internet, a website is a great tool to promote your stuff ;) |
| 21:33.12 | kdas | mysteryc, and then i can take the credit for informing and encouraging you ahaha |
| 21:33.35 | mysteryc | kdas: Lol;p |
| 21:33.46 | anddam | mase: my bad, seems now it is ~40 Mb |
| 21:33.53 | anddam | mase: I'm playing with filelight |
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| 21:34.10 | kdas | !lol |
| 21:34.11 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 21:34.24 | mysteryc | anddam: FreeBSD's website is much better than Debian's website. I feel that Debian's website can be confusing some times. |
| 21:34.36 | defrysk | Lol |
| 21:34.39 | defrysk | oeps |
| 21:34.39 | jelly | mysteryc: only some times? |
| 21:34.41 | kdas | mysteryc, yea i agree |
| 21:34.55 | mysteryc | ;p |
| 21:35.12 | anddam | that freebsd logo is so cool... |
| 21:35.20 | mysteryc | jelly: Lol, I wanted to be polite;p |
| 21:35.23 | abrotman | hi, welcome to #debian ... |
| 21:35.24 | kdas | mysteryc, quit chatting and program up a site damnit!!! |
| 21:35.25 | defrysk | freebsd is confusing by defauld |
| 21:35.37 | abrotman | !ot |
| 21:35.37 | dpkg | Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic (i.e., Debian support); imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. #debian-offtopic is the place for longer off-topic discussions. |
| 21:35.39 | stew | can you guys please take the conversation to a more appropriate channel. perhaps #debian-offtopic |
| 21:35.48 | jelly | mysteryc: the site is so 1996. |
| 21:35.58 | anddam | defrysk: is defauld the default daemon? |
| 21:36.11 | renton_ | google servers are debian based? |
| 21:36.13 | defrysk | anddam, no its a typo |
| 21:36.22 | mysteryc | jelly, kdas: To be honest, when I want help or wanna read something about Debian to get some information, it can get really messy. For example, when I was using Ubuntu, the bot would give me a link to Ubuntu's wiki and I could read everything nice and clearly. Now with Debian, just navigating through their website can be messy. |
| 21:36.28 | anddam | defrysk: and mine was a joke |
| 21:36.37 | mysteryc | kdas: Lol;p |
| 21:36.38 | defrysk | anddam, so was mine heh |
| 21:36.43 | anddam | defrysk: ;-) |
| 21:36.59 | klync | marvels at the patience shown by ops |
| 21:37.00 | renton_ | the coolest things of debian is iceweasel :) |
| 21:37.15 | mysteryc | renton_: I think they are red-hat based. There was this website where you could search up servers and i think google's were red-hat. im sure they had freebsd too though |
| 21:37.16 | amphi | ugh |
| 21:37.21 | anddam | jelly: to be really '96 it should have a lot more animated gifs and blinking text |
| 21:37.29 | stew | mysteryc: please keep it on-topic |
| 21:37.33 | mysteryc | lol;p |
| 21:37.38 | abrotman | it's not funny |
| 21:37.39 | mysteryc | stew: Ok, sorry. |
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| 21:38.04 | ubd | hello |
| 21:38.06 | stew | mysteryc: feel free to discuss whatever you want in #debian-offtopic or #defocus |
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| 21:38.16 | kdas | any one know how to print a matched term that is between to delimiters ? |
| 21:38.40 | stew | kdas: are the delimiters the same? |
| 21:38.48 | mase | kdas with bash substitution? |
| 21:38.51 | kdas | steve, no same format |
| 21:38.52 | cafuego | a term matched to what? |
| 21:39.01 | kdas | stew, no same format |
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| 21:39.07 | kdas | steve, woops sorry |
| 21:39.09 | stew | kdas: can you give us an example? |
| 21:39.17 | kdas | stew, sure one second |
| 21:39.21 | stew | i'm pretty sure steve hates me at this point |
| 21:39.22 | mysteryc | kdas: Anyway, I wanna seriously help out with the website, but the only thing i could come up on their site was how to translate it. Do you know how can I contact the website people? |
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| 21:39.38 | stew | mysteryc: as i said before: http://lists.debian.org/debian-www |
| 21:39.49 | ubsafder | I am looking for the source to rebuild http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-armel/current/images/ixp4xx/netboot/di-nslu2.bin |
| 21:39.53 | cafuego | kdas: grep finds the term no matter what; could you grep for "${DELIM}${TERM}${DELIM}" ? |
| 21:40.03 | ubsafder | anyone knows where it is ? |
| 21:40.04 | mysteryc | stew: Oh, lol, sorry, didn't see it. Thanks ;) |
| 21:40.06 | kdas | mysteryc, what stew said ;) |
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| 21:40.30 | abrotman | mysteryc: #debian-www on irc.oftc.net |
| 21:41.04 | kdas | stew, ummm output looks like this: http://pastebin.com/m19cff0eb and i want it so that if the text between the 2 ip addys have "porn" or what ever in it to print that chunk of stream |
| 21:41.05 | defrysk | mysteryc, get a grip and behave |
| 21:41.24 | kdas | cafuego, no |
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| 21:43.10 | ubsafder | i am looking for the source |
| 21:43.18 | cafuego | sees a problem that would be an non-issue with say squidguard |
| 21:43.18 | kdas | stew, did you get what i mean ? |
| 21:43.20 | stew | kdas: i'd probably use perl or python for this type of thing |
| 21:43.35 | stew | kdas: though i'd also wonder if there wasn't some tool out there that does exactly what you want already |
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| 21:43.53 | comm | I have a bunch of custom packages, and I want to setup a repo, is there something relatively easy that would allow me to create my own package and then add it to the repo so it can be used with apt? |
| 21:44.30 | stew | kdas: for example what you are trying to do is probably already accomplised for you in a stripped down snort configuration |
| 21:44.42 | kdas | steve, yea or i was thinking just a quick grab /{1-255}\.{1-555}/ (ip in regexp) and see if it contains the matched string |
| 21:45.09 | cafuego | kdas: Are you trying to just do this for web traffic? |
| 21:45.37 | kdas | cafuego, yes but in the future might change it to other trafiic like pop etc |
| 21:45.39 | cafuego | kdas: Or also encrypted connectiosn that *may* happen to contain 'porn' as part of their encrypted stream? |
| 21:45.57 | cafuego | kdas: Coz I have to be honest, I'd just use squid. |
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| 21:46.32 | kdas | cafuego, yea i been down this road already |
| 21:46.37 | stew | kdas: what about snort? |
| 21:46.55 | stew | (which is an entire tool built around the concept you are trying to reinvent) |
| 21:47.01 | kdas | stew, haven't tried snort |
| 21:47.02 | cafuego | heh |
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| 21:47.08 | anddam | stew: the "pornfinder"? |
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| 21:47.32 | cafuego | Or you know, find your own porn, don't try to steal other people's ;-) |
| 21:47.46 | stew | watch network traffic. if it matches this set of filters, perform these actions |
| 21:47.48 | ubd | when i am installing debian test, it doesnot recognize nor my ethernet no my wireless |
| 21:48.03 | kdas | stew, i will check it out, thanks |
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| 21:48.42 | earl3982 | im having issues with an elographics x11 driver under the newest RC of lenny |
| 21:48.46 | funktor | hey, if an application wants |
| 21:48.46 | funktor | gtkglareamm-dev and its obsolete |
| 21:48.46 | earl3982 | anyone can help? PM me |
| 21:48.51 | funktor | what do i replace it with? |
| 21:48.58 | stew | funktor: what are you trying to do? |
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| 21:49.11 | funktor | http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~ajd/Scene/download.html |
| 21:49.19 | funktor | stew, i need to install scenelib |
| 21:49.27 | kdas | stew, if it is not so complicated what would a snort rules for this situation be ? |
| 21:49.28 | funktor | but one of the deps needs gtkglareamm |
| 21:49.44 | funktor | i found gtkglareamm but the header file it wants is gtkglarea.h instead of glarea.h |
| 21:49.51 | funktor | i made a symlink to see if it compiles |
| 21:50.19 | funktor | err gtkglarea-dev* |
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| 21:51.01 | stew | gtkglarea5-dev: /usr/include/gtkgl/gtkglarea.h |
| 21:51.10 | \amethyst | funktor: gtkglarea.h is in libgtkgl2.0-dev |
| 21:51.16 | funktor | yes |
| 21:51.21 | funktor | but the program needs glarea.h |
| 21:51.25 | funktor | not gtkglarea.h |
| 21:51.30 | funktor | should i just make a symlink? |
| 21:52.13 | funktor | the program wants /usr/include/gtkgl--/glarea.h and I have /usr/include/gtkgl/gtkglarea.h |
| 21:52.30 | kdas | is there a way to trace which computer is requesting what by examining a packet ? IE. Inet----ME-----router-----user1,user2,user3 |
| 21:52.34 | cafuego | edit the source, not the filesyste, |
| 21:52.43 | stew | funktor: its likely that you'd have to fix the source code |
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| 21:52.53 | kdas | because all i see is all requests are coming from "router" |
| 21:52.56 | funktor | yw=ea, it generated a bunch of errors |
| 21:53.03 | anddam | isnt gtk-- probably c++ ? |
| 21:53.05 | cafuego | All your entropy are belong to me! |
| 21:53.08 | anddam | gtkgl-- |
| 21:53.21 | funktor | yes, it probably is |
| 21:53.25 | anddam | I mean while gtkgl should be C |
| 21:53.27 | \amethyst | funktor: there are probably other changes besides just the filename being different |
| 21:53.36 | funktor | \amethyst yes i know |
| 21:53.41 | funktor | hmm |
| 21:53.41 | anddam | funktor: install required library then |
| 21:53.49 | funktor | anddam it doesnt exist in lenny |
| 21:53.52 | funktor | only in potato |
| 21:53.55 | anddam | funktor: get the tarball |
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| 21:54.02 | anddam | backport/forwardport |
| 21:54.09 | anddam | whatever |
| 21:54.21 | funktor | cant find it on google, dont knwo which version of what it is |
| 21:54.31 | funktor | i mean is it just an old version of gtkglarea5? |
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| 21:54.43 | \amethyst | OH, I see |
| 21:54.52 | anddam | funktor: get a verions of the same period, but isn't there a file with the requirements? |
| 21:55.06 | \amethyst | it's not version differences, it's that the one with "gtk" is the C version and without is the C++ version |
| 21:55.09 | \amethyst | hm |
| 21:55.24 | funktor | anddam, its a strange program made by grad students at a university |
| 21:55.28 | funktor | they dont like writing help files |
| 21:55.36 | anddam | I see |
| 21:55.47 | funktor | \amethyst is there such a package in lenny do you think, for the c++ version of it? |
| 21:55.53 | \amethyst | and Debian no longer has gtkglareamm-dev |
| 21:56.04 | funktor | yes |
| 21:56.05 | \amethyst | no, but you might be able to find the woody package somewhere and *maybe* use that |
| 21:56.20 | funktor | damn, isnt there a reason they removed it? |
| 21:56.25 | funktor | perhaps it was buggy? |
| 21:56.32 | \amethyst | funktor: unmaintained probably |
| 21:56.36 | \amethyst | funktor: it is GTK 1.2 |
| 21:56.58 | \amethyst | funktor: GTK 2 has only been out for six years now :) |
| 21:56.58 | funktor | yes, trye |
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| 21:57.07 | \amethyst | six and a half |
| 21:57.08 | funktor | the program is intended for gtk 1.2 |
| 21:57.18 | funktor | should i try and get the woody package and do it manually? |
| 21:57.40 | \amethyst | funktor: yeah, I'd try that... if there are dependency packages, you could try building it from the woody source package |
| 21:58.12 | funktor | http://archive.debian.net/woody/gtkglareamm-dev |
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| 22:00.02 | stew | !dbugs 68137 |
| 22:00.06 | dpkg | DONE:#68137:N[wnpp] RFA: gtkglarea (); Fri, 08 Oct 1999 06:00:00 UTC [] |
| 22:00.21 | stew | looks unmaintained for some time now :) |
| 22:00.56 | funktor | OK it seems like they iinstalled |
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| 22:02.13 | stew | funktor: the reason it was removed is http://bugs.debian.org/293756 |
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| 22:02.43 | funktor | ok so it works and all but there is a new version of it |
| 22:02.48 | stew | funktor: which indicates that you should be switching to gtkglextmm |
| 22:03.04 | funktor | stew, i dont maintain the program that i need to compile |
| 22:03.07 | funktor | heh |
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| 22:03.21 | funktor | doesnt this new library probably have different headers and functions? |
| 22:03.43 | stew | funktor: yes, its going to require source code changes |
| 22:04.34 | funktor | on another note, what's the package for "GLOW" / glow.h? |
| 22:04.41 | funktor | there is nothing in packages with "glow" in it |
| 22:04.50 | anddam | funktor: I'm sorry for saying such an asshole thing but do you really need that software? isn't there a more up-to-date one that accomplishes the same task? |
| 22:05.05 | stew | funktor: /msg dpkg apt-file |
| 22:05.20 | funktor | anddam, its MonoSLAM, computer vision for robotic localization, it is needed for my final year project |
| 22:06.05 | funktor | dpkg doesnt know, stew :P |
| 22:06.06 | dpkg | funktor: no idea |
| 22:06.14 | funktor | I already searched packages and that |
| 22:06.18 | stew | dpkg: apt-file |
| 22:06.18 | dpkg | it has been said that apt-file is a utility used to find which package owns a given file, or list files in a package, see also <auto-apt> and <pdo>, or use apt-file: "aptitude install apt-file && apt-file update" ; then "apt-file search filename" will give you a list of packages containing filename. |
| 22:06.25 | funktor | oic |
| 22:06.38 | funktor | nice, thanks |
| 22:06.40 | stew | funktor: ^^ that is the tool to use in order to find out what package, if any, contains a given filename |
| 22:06.48 | stew | funktor: or /msg dpkg pdo |
| 22:07.01 | funktor | thats handy, if only i knew of this sooner |
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| 22:08.42 | funktor | http://glow.sourceforge.net/ its that i think |
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| 22:11.51 | huhlig_work | is there a install cd with 2.6.25+ on it yet? |
| 22:12.09 | pythonic | hi! can a package in stable depend on a package (version) in stable/updates? |
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| 22:13.25 | pythonic | bah, forget that |
| 22:13.46 | pythonic | of course the answer is no |
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| 22:15.02 | stew | huhlig_work: the testing installer is 2.6.26. if you need stable, check kmuto: /msg dpkg kmuto |
| 22:15.25 | huhlig_work | stew: i just booted the testing installer |
| 22:15.29 | huhlig_work | its 2.6.18 |
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| 22:15.56 | stew | huhlig_work: then you have a very old testing installer |
| 22:16.03 | anddam | can I easily remove compilers, binutils & related stuff? |
| 22:16.07 | huhlig_work | double checks that he downloaded the right image |
| 22:16.39 | epsilon | install the testing to end and then upgrade |
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| 22:18.03 | Supercazzora | stew, hi |
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| 22:21.16 | k-man | is there a .deb of a more recent version of wordpress anywhere? |
| 22:21.27 | bzed | i hope not |
| 22:21.28 | anddam | epsilon: me? |
| 22:22.02 | anddam | k-man: more recent than what? |
| 22:22.02 | ubd | DON'T |
| 22:22.04 | bzed | k-man: unfortunately wordpress is still in testing. unstable and experimental. |
| 22:22.11 | k-man | anddam: 2.5.1 |
| 22:22.15 | bzed | somebody needs to remove this utter crap |
| 22:22.39 | bzed | k-man: packages.debian.org is your friend in such questions |
| 22:22.44 | k-man | there is a bug in wordpress 2.5.1 the recover password feature is broken |
| 22:22.54 | anddam | I'm tired, 'night |
| 22:23.28 | stew | hah, that might be the first bug in wordpress in a while that might actually increase security |
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| 22:25.44 | k-man | ah, so 2.6.2 is in experimental - do you think i can put that into lenny? |
| 22:26.36 | Supercazzora | stew, could you help me to setup the mic? |
| 22:26.45 | stew | k-man: the problem is that you'd no longer be receiving security updates for a package which is known to have tons of security problems |
| 22:26.57 | Supercazzora | stew, 00:07.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP67 High Definition Audio (rev a1) |
| 22:27.09 | stew | Supercazzora: what have you tried so far? |
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| 22:28.25 | Supercazzora | stew, alsa works great, but no mic |
| 22:28.30 | k-man | stew: ok - so whats the recommended course of action? |
| 22:28.44 | stew | k-man: replace wordpress with something with a better track record |
| 22:28.48 | gajop | exit |
| 22:28.55 | k-man | stew: like? |
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| 22:29.26 | stew | k-man: all the cool kids seem to be using ikiwiki these days |
| 22:30.01 | k-man | stew: is that a wiki or a blog? |
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| 22:30.27 | stew | k-man: yes |
| 22:31.18 | k-man | stew, its interesting but not really useful for me right now |
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| 22:32.08 | dury | hi there channel :) |
| 22:32.13 | Supercazzora | stew, ? |
| 22:32.15 | julian_ | k-man: all blog software sucks in some way. you pick it based on which sucks the least, for your needs. |
| 22:32.35 | stew | Supercazzora: is the mic unmuted? and is the volume turned up? |
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| 22:32.41 | kkuno | hi |
| 22:32.44 | k-man | gives up and takes a brute force approach |
| 22:32.48 | Supercazzora | stew, yes! |
| 22:32.57 | stew | Supercazzora: what does "uname -r" say? |
| 22:32.57 | kkuno | is there a net-inst also for debian testing? |
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| 22:33.13 | Supercazzora | stew, 2.6.26-1-amd64 |
| 22:33.23 | stew | kkuno: yes, http://debian.org/devel/debian-installer |
| 22:33.34 | stew | Supercazzora: you are running lenny? |
| 22:33.39 | Supercazzora | stew, sure |
| 22:33.48 | stew | Supercazzora: you can try /msg dpkg new alsa |
| 22:34.01 | stew | Supercazzora: can you show us the output of 'amixer' ; use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
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| 22:34.03 | kkuno | mm thanks |
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| 22:34.23 | Supercazzora | stew, ok |
| 22:35.14 | Supercazzora | stew, http://pastebin.com/m7c75f318 |
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| 22:36.34 | Supercazzora | stew, ok? |
| 22:36.38 | dury | I only can put 1024X768 px resolution screen, refresh rate 60 hz... I'm sure in this nvidia card can put higher |
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| 22:36.44 | stew | Supercazzora: yes, that all looks fine to me |
| 22:37.02 | dury | how can I do that? |
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| 22:37.12 | stew | dury: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 22:37.19 | Supercazzora | stew, :( |
| 22:37.23 | ranix | How do I explicitly watch for USB connects/disconnects in my xterm window? |
| 22:37.32 | dury | right thanks |
| 22:37.36 | ranix | for troubleshooting purposes right now, specifically |
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| 22:37.57 | stew | ranix: "lshal --monitor" will give you the usb events (and any other hardware events) |
| 22:38.02 | ranix | thanks |
| 22:38.27 | Adi_S | How to set a different port for ssh in mc? |
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| 22:39.18 | level9wizard | Can someone help me setting up a ssh server on my debian box? I'm new to linux and just installed debian the other day |
| 22:39.25 | level9wizard | But I have ssh'd before :S |
| 22:39.29 | stew | level9wizard: aptitude install openssh-server |
| 22:39.46 | level9wizard | stew, where do i call that from, the cmd line? Please bare with me |
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| 22:41.15 | stew | level9wizard: if you run that command as root, it would install an ssh server |
| 22:41.22 | level9wizard | stew, I see |
| 22:41.30 | level9wizard | Is there a special boot option i need to login as root? |
| 22:41.38 | stew | level9wizard: no |
| 22:41.46 | level9wizard | When I try to login as user root at the login screen, it says admin cant login from here |
| 22:42.03 | level9wizard | im obviously a newb lol |
| 22:42.15 | level9wizard | I really appreciate your help tho |
| 22:42.31 | stew | level9wizard: hit "ctrl-alt-f1" to get to a text console. 'alt-f7' will get you back to the graphical login. or login as a regular user, open a terminal, then type "su" to switch that terminal to root |
| 22:43.00 | ranix | my com1 port would be /dev/ttyS0, yes? |
| 22:43.10 | stew | probably? |
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| 22:44.07 | ranix | thanks stew, sorry for the stupid questions. I have a PDA here with some seriously fucked up problems I'm trying to diagnose |
| 22:44.11 | level9wizard | stew, ok cool |
| 22:44.17 | ranix | tried to plug a usb cable into it and the port came out |
| 22:44.48 | ranix | then shoved it back in and Windows found new hardware the next time I started it up, but that's useless so I brought it over here to a Debian machine and it's not even registering USB connects |
| 22:44.56 | ranix | so I spat some stuff over serial ports, nada squat |
| 22:45.10 | ranix | but it looks like all the pins are making connection everywhere |
| 22:45.22 | stew | ranix: does it show up in 'lsusb'? |
| 22:45.26 | level9wizard | stew, so far so good! |
| 22:45.38 | ranix | stew: I gave up on USB and went to serial testing |
| 22:46.27 | stew | ranix: setserial is a package to explicitly setup the serial ports if somehow they aren't using standard irc/port |
| 22:46.44 | level9wizard | stew, it's asking me to nisert a disk :S |
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| 22:47.01 | ranix | stew: no reason it shouldn't be using standard stuff, I think this machine is fine and the PDA is fubar |
| 22:47.16 | stew | level9wizard: if you want to instead install packages from the network: /msg dpkg sources.list |
| 22:47.42 | Supercazzora | stew, no way! |
| 22:47.55 | stew | way |
| 22:48.16 | level9wizard | stew, im hoping to get this from the net. I ran the aptitude cmd u mentioned above and it was fetching some but now it wants a disk |
| 22:48.31 | level9wizard | net as in wan net |
| 22:48.42 | stew | level9wizard: then remove the cdrom lines, and add http sources: /msg dpkg sources.list |
| 22:48.57 | level9wizard | how do i escape this? |
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| 22:49.12 | blakbeardscrotum | hi |
| 22:49.13 | stew | level9wizard: ctrl-c |
| 22:49.14 | amphi | level9wizard: with octothorpes! |
| 22:49.17 | level9wizard | it keeps saying insert disk and press enter |
| 22:49.27 | level9wizard | ahh i see |
| 22:49.53 | blakbeardscrotum | are homeless people... real people ? |
| 22:50.01 | level9wizard | so the full would be debian:~# aptitude install openssh-server /msg dpkg sources.list |
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| 22:50.27 | level9wizard | or am i misunderstanding |
| 22:50.28 | stew | blakbeardscrotum: please keep it on-topic. if you have a debian question, ask it. for general chitchat, please use #debian-offtopic or #defocus instead |
| 22:50.44 | stew | level9wizard: no, that was meant as an irc command: |
| 22:50.50 | stew | dpkg: tell level9wizard about sources.list |
| 22:51.03 | level9wizard | oops |
| 22:51.12 | blakbeardscrotum | yeah i have a question... |
| 22:51.14 | blakbeardscrotum | MOTHERFUCKER |
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| 22:51.39 | stew | blakbeardscrotum: you've been silenced for 10 minutes. please keep it constructive and on-topic in the future, thanks |
| 22:52.31 | level9wizard | stew, hmmm |
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| 22:54.10 | level9wizard | stew, i hope u can forgive me i dont really get it |
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| 22:54.41 | level9wizard | do i navigate to my /etc/apt/sources.list and investiage? |
| 22:55.36 | stew | level9wizard: you'd open it with an editor |
| 22:55.57 | level9wizard | like emacs? |
| 22:56.00 | level9wizard | is that on debain? |
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| 22:56.10 | stew | level9wizard: yes and yes |
| 22:56.21 | amphi | level9wizard: you should have nano available, if nothing else |
| 22:56.40 | level9wizard | ok its open |
| 22:56.54 | level9wizard | i see 5 lines not commented |
| 22:57.13 | level9wizard | deb cd-rom..., two deb http:/..., and two deb-src |
| 22:57.25 | amphi | comment out the cd-rom lines only |
| 22:57.38 | level9wizard | k |
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| 22:58.22 | level9wizard | k i saved it, try aptitude install openssh-server again |
| 22:58.24 | level9wizard | ? |
| 22:59.06 | level9wizard | Yea that's working |
| 22:59.12 | level9wizard | I see it fetching from http now |
| 22:59.33 | level9wizard | If you guys got points for each solution provided, u would score a bundle off me! |
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| 23:01.41 | jpinx | I am creating filesystems on a files on a vfat usb device. The limit is 4Gbs, so there are several. The first one dd'd and mkfs all ok and is monuted and in use, but the second one will not mkfs to ext3 - it always comes out as a DOS device |
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| 23:02.32 | jpinx | anyone able to shed light in my dark corner here? |
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| 23:04.06 | amphi | jpinx: mkfs gives no error? |
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| 23:04.45 | jpinx | amphi: no error after mkfs |
| 23:04.54 | level9wizard | looks like that installed ok, now i need to test it i suppose |
| 23:05.18 | Supercazzora | stew, no way! |
| 23:05.21 | jpinx | amphi: I used - sudo mkfs -t ext3 -m 1 -v /media/32GBSTICK/fs002 |
| 23:05.49 | jpinx | amphi: exactly the same process as the first filesystem file |
| 23:05.56 | jpinx | which works fine |
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| 23:09.31 | amphi | jpinx: you probably don't want ext3 on such a thing, but that's a separate issue |
| 23:10.00 | Tramp | why does group/gshadow contain redundant information (unlike passwd/shadow)? And is it noted somewhere, that the list of group-members in gshadow is apparently ignored anyways? |
| 23:10.15 | jpinx | amphi: what fs then? |
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| 23:10.50 | amphi | jpinx: ext2 perhaps |
| 23:11.33 | jpinx | ok -- I'll try that |
| 23:12.37 | Tramp | Tools to modify the list of groups go to great length to ensure consistence (vigr warn you to also do vigr -s and gpasswd, usermod seem to modify both files consistently). However, it doesn't seem to matter (or does it??) |
| 23:13.27 | stew | jpinx: why are you creating lots of small filesystems instead of one big one? you mentioned vfat, but i don't see how vfat is involved at all ehre |
| 23:13.42 | Tramp | The fact that there are three tools for the same (futile) task looks like a hint to brokenness anyways, so nvm. |
| 23:14.20 | level9wizard | Anyone know what port ssh uses? I want to forward it to my debian box from my router |
| 23:14.45 | Tramp | level9wizard: check the manpage or /etc/services |
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| 23:15.07 | stew | Tramp: man shadow ; man gshadow |
| 23:15.16 | stew | level9wizard: 22 by default |
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| 23:15.20 | Tramp | stew: they don't help |
| 23:15.24 | jpinx | stew - it's a 32G stick with an un-removable vfat filesystem on it - so I'm making several more usable fs's |
| 23:15.40 | jpinx | amphi: ext2 worked - thanks |
| 23:15.54 | jpinx | I wouldn't have thought of anything that obvious |
| 23:16.04 | level9wizard | stew, Tramp, thanks |
| 23:16.12 | stew | Tramp: the passwd/shadow separation is so that you can have passwd publicly readable, and have shadow be only readable by privileged users to prevent a non-privileged user from getting a password hash to attempt to brute force it |
| 23:16.28 | amphi | jpinx: good-oh - I don't know why ext3 didn't though - journalling filesystems are said not to be good for such media though |
| 23:16.46 | Tramp | stew: I'm talking about the list of group-members. |
| 23:16.52 | stew | Tramp: same reason |
| 23:17.06 | Tramp | stew: you're obviously not reading what I said |
| 23:17.26 | Tramp | stew: the list of group-members in gshadow appears to be ignored |
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| 23:17.41 | stew | Tramp: how are you testing that? |
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| 23:18.02 | level9wizard | Tramp, how do i run services |
| 23:18.08 | Tramp | stew: by adding myself to a group in gshadow only and logging in, then check with id |
| 23:18.09 | level9wizard | from the cmd line |
| 23:18.27 | Tramp | level9wizard: it's a file |
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| 23:19.46 | stew | Tramp: run 'newgrp groupname' |
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| 23:20.23 | level9wizard | How can I show files in the dir i am in to page the results? |
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| 23:20.53 | level9wizard | i do ls -la but theres too many |
| 23:21.10 | Tramp | stew: yes. That adds me to the group. However, if I add myself to /etc/group, it's there right after the login. This is still inconsistent to me |
| 23:21.30 | stew | Tramp: why? |
| 23:21.35 | stew | Tramp: man newgrp |
| 23:21.39 | joltcan | level9wizard: ls | more |
| 23:21.39 | ceil420 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:21.49 | ceil420 | gimme it faster, ftp.us.debian.org :( |
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| 23:22.18 | ceil420 | if i get rich and hook debian up with a gb line, will they hook me up with mad speeds? |
| 23:22.20 | ceil420 | :p |
| 23:22.39 | level9wizard | joltcan, thanks |
| 23:22.45 | level9wizard | Ahh I see so nano services shows me |
| 23:23.11 | joltcan | try another mirror? |
| 23:23.59 | ceil420 | the only other one that looked like it'd be faster was utexas (me being in Texas), but that was half the speed of this :x |
| 23:24.10 | Tramp | stew: I'm not talking about the behaviour of newgrp, I'm talking about the behaviour of login. Neither the manpage of group nor the manpage of gshadow indicates, that the list of group-users in gshadow is ignored upon login (or superseded by the entries in group) |
| 23:24.15 | stew | ceil420: you should be able to find a much faster mirror |
| 23:24.19 | ceil420 | don't s'pose anyone knows a good Dallas area mirror? |
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| 23:24.45 | joltcan | ceil420: YMMV. I have 100/10Mbps and the ftp.se.debian.org sits on dual 10GBps pipes, so my downloads are ~2-3MB/s for bigger files |
| 23:24.46 | ceil420 | is there a list of mirrors i could ping? :x |
| 23:24.48 | stew | Tramp: why are you assuming that gshadow should be consulted upon login? gshadow is used by newgrp |
| 23:24.58 | ceil420 | i'm a world away from sweden :p |
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| 23:25.40 | ceil420 | http://search.debian.org/apache2-default/?q=mirrors |
| 23:25.41 | ceil420 | lol'd |
| 23:25.44 | joltcan | ceil420: I know, I were only saying that faster pipe is fun :) Take a look at debian.org, there are a mirrors page |
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| 23:25.53 | Tramp | stew: hmm. ok. this was not obvious to me. I though group/gshadow relate like passwd/shadow |
| 23:26.05 | stew | Tramp: do you have groups that you want users to need to use newgrp to enter? or groups that you want to allow people to enter if they know the group password? |
| 23:26.24 | stew | Tramp: they do |
| 23:26.43 | Tramp | stew: but shadow is honored by login, gshadow not |
| 23:26.46 | stew | Tramp: gshadow is where the passwords are stored |
| 23:26.57 | stew | Tramp: honored? |
| 23:27.41 | stew | Tramp: what do you mean by honored? |
| 23:27.52 | Tramp | stew: the login-process checks the password with shadow. It does not take the group-members from gshadow |
| 23:28.11 | stew | Tramp: correct |
| 23:28.28 | Tramp | stew: and this was my misunderstanding. |
| 23:28.54 | Tramp | stew: IMHO the manpage of gshadow should make clear, that it is not relevant for login but only for newgrp |
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| 23:29.05 | stew | Tramp: submit a patch |
| 23:29.11 | Tramp | stew: but thanks for the clarification. |
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| 23:29.47 | stew | the gshadow manpage DOES refer you to both group and newgrp manpages |
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| 23:32.14 | DaRtH_VaDeR | stew++ |
| 23:32.15 | DaRtH_VaDeR | :) |
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| 23:35.53 | ceil420 | 64 bytes from ftp.utexas.edu (146.6.54.21): icmp_seq=4 ttl=44 time=1313 ms |
| 23:35.58 | ceil420 | what a crappy line for a school :x |
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| 23:38.26 | jpinx | Hmm -- now I'm getting - mount: Stale NFS file handle |
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| 23:39.14 | jpinx | the fs is identified correctly by file -s but when I try to mount it it fails with that error |
| 23:39.27 | infinity2 | is anyone running lenny on a dell 2950 |
| 23:39.30 | level9wizard | I got ssh running after i port forwarded on my router to the debian box. However I tried settnig a static ip on the debain box, and it wasnt showing on the router |
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| 23:40.48 | pickcoder | level9wizard: "showing on the router"? |
| 23:41.01 | level9wizard | Debian showed itself successfully using a static ip, and my router showed a dhcp ip [different addresses] |
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| 23:41.25 | pickcoder | level9wizard: define "debian" |
| 23:41.36 | level9wizard | uhh |
| 23:41.43 | jpinx | any ideas what other filesystem might be more appropriate? |
| 23:41.45 | level9wizard | Linux absed o/s |
| 23:41.45 | pickcoder | as in.. how did you determine that |
| 23:42.30 | level9wizard | Oh, from the menu bar at the top, i dropdown Administraor, then network prefrences |
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| 23:43.01 | level9wizard | Desktop > Administration > Networking [sorry] |
| 23:43.02 | pickcoder | level9wizard: ifconfig is the only thing I trust to get current nic network settings |
| 23:43.11 | jelly-home | pickcoder: ip > ifconfig! |
| 23:43.28 | pickcoder | networkmangler is a horrific net-config tool |
| 23:43.39 | pickcoder | it's never set my stuff up right |
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| 23:44.19 | pickcoder | jelly-home: I'm kinda partial to ifconfig due to habit |
| 23:44.35 | joltcan | iproute! |
| 23:44.40 | cynicaljoy | tomcat5.5.20-2etch3 wont build so I added the unstable distro source to my sources, when I do an apt-cache show tomcat5.5 I see both that one and tomcat5.5.26-5. how do I tell apt which to install? |
| 23:45.28 | level9wizard | pickcoder, where do i run ipconfig |
| 23:45.33 | pickcoder | level9wizard: just because the lease is still active doesn't mean the devices is still physically using it |
| 23:45.45 | level9wizard | pickcoder, ok so help me thru this |
| 23:45.49 | pickcoder | if you take the network connection down then it should release the lease |
| 23:45.56 | commodore64 | Start > Settings > Network Connections |
| 23:45.58 | level9wizard | pickcoder, i did actually |
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| 23:46.13 | Gazali | hello im installing debian atm |
| 23:46.28 | Gazali | is it possible to use sudo in debian |
| 23:46.28 | pickcoder | "ip addr" or "ifconfig" in a shell should show your devices and net info |
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| 23:48.07 | Lagbolt | Gazali, yes it is. i believe there is an option in the installer now to use it by default |
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| 23:48.32 | Gazali | actually im installing the test version and there is not anyway its not so important |
| 23:48.33 | jelly-home | pickcoder: me too, but its output can be incomplete |
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| 23:49.54 | jelly-home | cynicaljoy: you REALLY don't want to install packages from unstable on a stable system |
| 23:50.36 | jelly-home | cynicaljoy: try looking for a newer version on backports.org, or making a backport by yourself /msg dpkg ssb |
| 23:50.44 | Gazali | what is the "laptop" sofware bundle in he debian install? |
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| 23:51.13 | cynicaljoy | ty jelly-home |
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| 23:51.30 | dieb_ | can I ask debian packaging questions here ? |
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| 23:52.57 | jelly-home | cynicaljoy: (also, remove the deb ... unstable ... lines from your sources.list, because whatever you try to install apt will try the latest version available) |
| 23:53.17 | cynicaljoy | I already did that :) thanks |
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| 23:54.35 | dieb_ | is there any default postinst "configuration" window that I can reuse? I mean, I can get that window manually with the postinst script, but if there's already one, I'd just use it. |
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| 23:55.32 | jelly-home | cynicaljoy: the answer to your, now less relevant, question would probably be "apt-get -t stable install foo" or "apt-get install foo/stable" or "apt-get install foo=5.5.25-5" |
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| 23:56.52 | Gazali | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apds02.html.en can someone tell me what are standard and laptop packages? |
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| 23:57.13 | cynicaljoy | jelly-home: well it seems that dpkg is recommending that I add an unstable src back and then compile the .deb's for tomcat5.5 using apt |
| 23:57.45 | llimeht | Gazali: aptitude search ~tlaptop; aptitude search ~pstandard |
| 23:58.06 | Gazali | i dont have linux ^^ |
| 23:58.38 | Gazali | anyway would i want the standard system? |
| 23:58.42 | jpinx | Gazali: are you considering installing Debian? What hardware? |
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| 23:58.56 | Gazali | i have a non moving laptop |
| 23:59.11 | jpinx | Gazali: spec? |
| 23:59.22 | Gazali | its a pentium 1.6 |
| 23:59.26 | jpinx | Gazali: ram, cpu hdd('s) |
| 23:59.32 | JyZyXEL | whats the name of the gnome window manager executable? |
| 23:59.38 | Gazali | 750gb the disk is xfce |
| 23:59.42 | llimeht | Gazali: laptop task is approximately: http://rafb.net/p/HdFm9I84.html |
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