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| 00:04.09 | xbj_A21m | drizzd_ I think I got it |
| 00:04.28 | xbj_A21m | using this page to guide me: http://fluxbox-wiki.org/index.php?title=Howto_exit_fluxbox_with_a_dialog |
| 00:04.52 | paggas | how can one take part in the lenny bug squashing? :) |
| 00:05.00 | drizzd_ | xbj_A21m: it just seems useless to me to respond to a button press with a dialog. |
| 00:05.12 | drizzd_ | you could have typed sudo shutdown -h now in the first place |
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| 00:06.14 | themill | paggas: it's coordinated through #debian-bugs on oftc |
| 00:07.11 | paggas | themill: oops, wrong network! :| |
| 00:07.28 | xbj_A21m | drizzd_ I know but I may be in a hurry and click-click is faster |
| 00:07.37 | themill | paggas: see also http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ and the output of "rc-alert --include-dists TU" |
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| 00:08.38 | [T]ank | I am trying to set up two nics on one network each with static IP addresses. I have that all working fine. However I cannot get them to connect to the internet. I have my settings like this: http://pastebin.ca/1269837 |
| 00:08.39 | [T]ank | Once I manually type route add default gw 192.168.1.1 it all works like I should. I thought the gateway 192.168.1.1 in the config file was supposed to cover that. |
| 00:08.43 | [T]ank | what I am missing? |
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| 00:09.35 | Guerin | [T]ank: it should work. Sometimes there's a race condition, however. You can put the route command in an `up' line in interfaces to fix this. |
| 00:09.50 | Guerin | the race condition sometimes comes from NICs not coming up instantly |
| 00:09.59 | [T]ank | so what do I need to do? |
| 00:10.07 | Guerin | the up statement fixes it by only running the command once the device is up |
| 00:10.42 | Guerin | man interfaces, look at up and down commands |
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| 00:14.01 | [T]ank | Guerin: well, unless I am misunderstanding the command... something is not right... here is what i tried: up route add default gw 192.168.1.1 on the last line of each interface in the /etc/network/interfaces file |
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| 00:18.27 | atomiku | Does ndiswrapper support the wifi cardbeing an access point? |
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| 00:20.54 | arinko | I'm having trouble setting up a printer for use with samba -- I can't get the winbox to see the printer. |
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| 00:21.49 | arinko | I'm trying to add a printer to an existing samba installation (I'm not sure how 'functional' it is), |
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| 00:23.07 | arinko | the printer I'm trying to add is an HP 882C (usb), and I've added it to /etc/samba/smb.conf, and printcap, and I've restarted samba (and cups) several times -- but the windows box still doesn't see the printer. |
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| 00:31.49 | arinko | What port does samba operate on by default? |
| 00:33.36 | Kamping_Kaiser | standard windows filesharing ports |
| 00:33.44 | Kamping_Kaiser | iirc 139/138 |
| 00:34.11 | Kamping_Kaiser | 13{7,8,9} |
| 00:35.10 | arinko | For printing? |
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| 00:35.35 | Kamping_Kaiser | also 445 i suspect. |
| 00:35.42 | Kamping_Kaiser | it'll be one of those ports |
| 00:37.11 | dustybin | anybody know how i can make a 41-byte hash from a clear text password using perl? |
| 00:37.39 | Eulex | which kind of hash? |
| 00:37.54 | dustybin | Eulex: its for mysql, im locked out of zoneminder |
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| 00:38.06 | dustybin | so i need to re-create the password in the database |
| 00:38.15 | Eulex | perhaps ask #mysql what hash algo they're using? |
| 00:38.20 | Eulex | 41 would be odd too |
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| 00:38.39 | dustybin | http://www.zoneminder.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=47121&sid=6407e28445ef68cc8dd9d5063a1fd6d9 |
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| 00:40.42 | fixUp | Has anyone had problems getting the nv driver to work after installing the binary xen kernel ? |
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| 00:41.49 | onetinsoldier | hi all |
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| 00:41.58 | Eulex | dustybin, well, basically, if they designed their own hashing algo, they're stupid. as the mysql people should be pretty bright, they should at least be using a variant of an existing hashing algo. |
| 00:42.22 | dustybin | Eulex: i may as well wipe the whole database |
| 00:42.30 | dancor | how do i debug an issue where mplayer-ing region dvds fails on debian lenny, but not on gentoo on the same machine |
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| 00:43.47 | Eulex | dancor, have you got libdvdcss installed? |
| 00:44.38 | Eulex | dustybin, take a look at the last comment at the page you linked to |
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| 00:46.45 | sylarrr | how do I see if a file is of type pipe? |
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| 00:47.02 | tCzer1 | does anyone use a Unichrome Via Video Card and if so, did you get openchrome to work with it? |
| 00:47.06 | spikeb | the file command should tell you |
| 00:47.17 | sylarrr | thanks |
| 00:47.22 | sylarrr | man |
| 00:47.31 | Eulex | sylarrr, ls -al, first character in permissions is p |
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| 00:48.26 | sylarrr | ok |
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| 00:49.38 | rdz | hi all. what is the name of the command, that turns normal text into nice ascii art text? |
| 00:49.39 | jaggz | how do I unholdback all these held packages again? |
| 00:49.48 | stoned | I just install timidity + freepats and now I am trying to play file using timidity blah.mid it I get No instrument mapped to tone bank 0, program 49 - this instrument will not be heard |
| 00:49.49 | jaggz | rdz, banner? |
| 00:49.52 | stoned | No pre-resampling cache hit |
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| 00:50.04 | stoned | this is driving me crazy I can't find the answer anwere not even google |
| 00:50.20 | stoned | in years I have never been able to play midi files on linux |
| 00:50.21 | stoned | EVER |
| 00:50.23 | stoned | for the fucking life of me |
| 00:50.30 | stoned | why is this shit so fucking hard |
| 00:50.37 | stoned | is it really so much to fucking as man |
| 00:50.40 | stoned | seriously |
| 00:50.41 | stoned | fuck. |
| 00:50.43 | jaggz | not enough water? |
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| 00:51.37 | dustybin | is it really that bad to run 'make' as root? |
| 00:51.40 | jaggz | it does suck how hard midi is to get working.. I was trying to get a simple note editing thing to work.. |
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| 00:52.01 | rdz | jaggz, yeah... thanks a lot |
| 00:52.19 | jaggz | dusty, it's not just about trust.. it's about being cautious .. someone might have a mistaken rm in their file |
| 00:52.26 | zizban | what does "/usr/bin/ld: connot find -1Xp" mean |
| 00:52.27 | stoned | and why the fuck do people record as mid anyway, if you gonna distribute shit use ogg or soemthing |
| 00:52.29 | dustybin | jaggz: eeeeeek |
| 00:52.30 | stoned | goddamn |
| 00:52.30 | zizban | anyone know? |
| 00:52.53 | dustybin | jaggz: somone might of mistaken a rm when you type 'make' |
| 00:53.04 | stoned | the BTS is pretty empty on freepats and timidity package |
| 00:53.06 | jaggz | -lXp or -1Xp? :) |
| 00:53.38 | tCzer1 | how would I need to add this : http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=xserver-xorg-video-openchrome o the repository |
| 00:53.39 | jaggz | I don't know what libXp is, but look for it in packages |
| 00:53.42 | zizban | -1Xp |
| 00:53.48 | stoned | I AM PISSED! |
| 00:53.52 | spikeb | YAY |
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| 00:55.02 | jaggz | I don't see a -1 option in man ld |
| 00:55.58 | zizban | must be libxp-dev I bet |
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| 00:56.24 | stoned | bank 0 |
| 00:56.24 | stoned | 0 Tone_000/000_Acoustic_Grand_Piano.pat amp=120 pan=center |
| 00:56.34 | stoned | I've got instrumetns define din /etc/timidity/freepats.cfg |
| 00:56.40 | stoned | the files exist packages installed fine |
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| 00:56.57 | stoned | I just can't figure out why mid won't play |
| 00:57.02 | stoned | it keeps saying nothing in tone bank 0 |
| 00:57.05 | stoned | but the config file says otherwise |
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| 00:57.38 | stoned | No instrument mapped to tone bank 0, program 49 |
| 00:57.48 | stoned | but I HAVE A FUCKIN program 49 in my freepats.cfg |
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| 00:57.51 | stoned | what is going on! |
| 00:57.55 | stoned | goddamit |
| 00:58.13 | onetinsoldier | stoned: it sounds like maybe it's time to run 'reportbug' |
| 00:58.36 | stoned | no |
| 00:58.46 | onetinsoldier | ok |
| 00:58.50 | stoned | its time to install something like rosegarden, edit the damn midi file to use a diff program |
| 00:58.52 | dustybin | when you guys 'make install' do you have a habit of looking for the word 'error' once its finished? |
| 00:59.18 | stoned | onetinsoldier, and the problem could also lie within the file it self, perhaps it is corrupt |
| 00:59.24 | stoned | I think the packages are fine |
| 00:59.40 | jaggz | I have a lot of .mid's on my system |
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| 01:00.31 | jaggz | oh.. I forgot how to play midi files anyway |
| 01:00.45 | stoned | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:00.47 | onetinsoldier | stoned: certainly a possibility.. but i still wouldn't think it should say No instrument mapped to tone bank 0, program 49 if it's defined in the cfg like you say it is. but yes.. the midi file could possibly be the problem |
| 01:00.57 | stoned | I have this under the drunset 0 not bank 0 |
| 01:01.06 | stoned | in the bank 0 section there is no program 49 |
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| 01:01.13 | onetinsoldier | copy |
| 01:01.14 | stoned | and program 49 is defiend as percussion sounds |
| 01:01.27 | stoned | what I am trying to play is a Amin pedal chord |
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| 01:01.48 | stoned | not sure how its going to use a percussion instrument to play a synth sound |
| 01:01.54 | stoned | see the problem |
| 01:02.00 | stoned | I think I'd have to edit the midi file itself |
| 01:02.05 | onetinsoldier | oh |
| 01:02.47 | stoned | seriously I'd like to kick this zentao guitar lesson asshole in the nuts for providing midi files when everywher else he provided mp3s |
| 01:02.50 | stoned | what a fucking moron |
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| 01:02.53 | stoned | I swear to god |
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| 01:04.50 | jaggz | rosegarden plays each note as a strum of different-pitched echoed static. |
| 01:05.15 | jaggz | says it's using timidity too |
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| 01:05.33 | stoned | fuck it man I don't have time for this shit |
| 01:05.36 | stoned | I'll chose uhm |
| 01:05.52 | stoned | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:05.59 | stoned | for program 49 |
| 01:06.08 | stoned | lets play the pedal tone that way |
| 01:06.25 | stoned | beautiful |
| 01:06.40 | stoned | nah, this instrument sounds like crap |
| 01:07.07 | stoned | is there some sort of a gui program that lets you select which instrument to use to play a midi file? |
| 01:07.18 | stoned | i.e, specify which bank program to use? |
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| 01:07.30 | zmitya | hi all |
| 01:08.22 | onetinsoldier | hi |
| 01:08.47 | Firefishe | hey onetinsoldier |
| 01:08.48 | stoned | sweet dude I can change the freepats.cfg to make a few instruments mapped to program 49 |
| 01:08.56 | zmitya | is there any DNS converter tool that converts domains including LATIN2 characters (like: éáÅúöüó) ? |
| 01:08.57 | stoned | now I can mix various instruments together in this pedal chord |
| 01:09.06 | onetinsoldier | Firefishe: howdy |
| 01:09.09 | stoned | omg I can play a few diff tones simtul |
| 01:09.28 | zmitya | for example: röplabda.hu = xn--rplabda-90a.hu |
| 01:09.34 | jaggz | anyone had success with voice-modem + vgetty? what voice modem have you had success with? |
| 01:09.47 | Firefishe | Anyone care to give me a hand with a bunch of screwed up modules. I've tried madwifi, wireless-compat-old, and still can't get my Atheros wi-fi working. I've looked over all the docs, man pages, anything I can get my hands on. I've tried everything today, to no avail. |
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| 01:11.17 | jpinx | Firefishe: I seem to remember there was something about the kernel you use being critical |
| 01:11.47 | Firefishe | I"m using 2.6.26-1-686 |
| 01:11.53 | jpinx | Firefishe: it might pay off to read the release notes |
| 01:12.08 | Firefishe | jpinx: I've read them until I'm blue in the face. |
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| 01:13.05 | jpinx | Firefishe: I sympathise - i was trying to get atheros to work in an asus eeepc minilaptop |
| 01:13.23 | jpinx | but the kernel in the install there "just worked" (tm) |
| 01:13.26 | Firefishe | Or just get another wi-fi card. It's PCIe, so it shouldn't be too hard to find something that works. No sound on this thing, either. Everything in vista64hp works fine. |
| 01:13.36 | Firefishe | jpinx...what kernel was it? |
| 01:13.44 | jpinx | Errmmm |
| 01:14.20 | Firefishe | I know it was custom for eepc...no misunderstandings, there. I just wanted to know what source they compiled it from |
| 01:14.21 | onetinsoldier | Firefishe: what's your sound card? |
| 01:14.38 | Firefishe | onetinsoldier: one sec, I'll paste it. |
| 01:15.02 | jpinx | Firefishe: 2.6.26 |
| 01:15.22 | Firefishe | onetinsoldier: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03) |
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| 01:16.22 | Firefishe | jpinx...well, I'm using 2.6.26-1-686...perhaps if I try the 486 variant??? I dunno. The laptop I'm using has an Intel T5750 dual core. Is the 686 kernel the proper one? |
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| 01:16.28 | onetinsoldier | Firefishe: roger... not much there really.. but i guess it's an intel sound card then. onboard sound card anyway |
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| 01:16.41 | jpinx | sound is a continuing source of trouble for me as well -- I keep losing it from vlc if some other application opens and need s it |
| 01:16.44 | onetinsoldier | Firefishe: are you in X? |
| 01:17.08 | Firefishe | onetinsoldier: yes....a pita if I ever had one. I wish they'd use separate PCIe cards for things like sound. |
| 01:17.20 | Firefishe | pulse audio even has trouble with this thing. |
| 01:17.32 | jpinx | Firefishe: this might give you some clues.. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/HowTo/Upgrade |
| 01:17.34 | onetinsoldier | Firefishe: i recommend you instal and check out... hardinfo |
| 01:17.45 | onetinsoldier | just for kicks if nothing else |
| 01:17.49 | Firefishe | hardinfo? |
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| 01:18.13 | onetinsoldier | yeah... it's available in lenny.. not sure about etch |
| 01:18.27 | Firefishe | onetinsoldier: Care to have the url for alsa-info.sh I sent to alsa-project a few minutes ago, as well? |
| 01:18.42 | jpinx | anyone know of how to configure my sound (alsa) to work with more than one application? |
| 01:18.43 | mid5 | anyone knows a url about documentation of saint scanner? |
| 01:18.47 | onetinsoldier | Firefishe: ok.. sure |
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| 01:19.01 | Firefishe | onetinsoldier: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=80a01c43fe42e087900e072ffe40630b3c4fab39 |
| 01:19.02 | Nigromante | jpinx, enable software mixing |
| 01:19.18 | jpinx | Nigromante: is that a package? |
| 01:19.32 | Nigromante | no, an alsa config file |
| 01:19.37 | zmitya | fyi, idn package is that searched |
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| 01:19.47 | jpinx | Nigromante: cool -- looking |
| 01:19.53 | Nigromante | must read alsa docs |
| 01:20.04 | Nigromante | tricky |
| 01:20.31 | Nigromante | can force application to use all the same sound daemon |
| 01:20.39 | Nigromante | if possible |
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| 01:21.06 | Firefishe | onetinsoldier: hardinfo report generation running |
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| 01:21.23 | onetinsoldier | Firefishe: well now that's a lot of crap about it... not shortage of info there it seems. intel sound card.. man, when did intel start making onboard sound? |
| 01:21.55 | onetinsoldier | Firefishe: cool. you should like it. it's not a anstonishing program.. but still pretty cool i thought |
| 01:22.04 | jpinx | Nigromante: I am not finding any alsa config files in /etc/alsa -- where shoud I look? |
| 01:22.35 | Firefishe | onetinsoldier: Recently, no doubt. Works fine on Vista 64 Home Premium on the other side of the drive. Perfectly. It's a linux module issue. As usual. |
| 01:22.42 | Nigromante | i think you had to create it. i used it a long time ago for my laptop |
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| 01:22.49 | onetinsoldier | Firefishe: roger |
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| 01:23.08 | jpinx | Nigromante: ok - thanks - I'll head off to #alsa ;) |
| 01:23.30 | Firefishe | All the right modules are loaded |
| 01:23.54 | spq | hm, when i eject my sd card the device node stays there and hal does not recognize the ejection (only the partition device node is removed, what hal detects) |
| 01:23.59 | onetinsoldier | Firefishe: in hardinfo if someone wnats to know info... you can right-click in it and you get the option 'copy to clipboard' |
| 01:24.07 | onetinsoldier | wants* |
| 01:24.13 | Nigromante | jpinx: read http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Hardware_mixing,_software_mixing |
| 01:24.38 | Nigromante | jpinx: and http://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/t-18522.html |
| 01:24.58 | jpinx | Nigromante: cool -- thanks |
| 01:25.03 | Nigromante | np |
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| 01:26.20 | spq | hm, when i eject my sd card the device node stays there and hal does not recognize the ejection (only the partition device node is removed, what hal detects) |
| 01:26.32 | spq | sry for repost |
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| 01:40.23 | pedro_mg | any installation on Acer Aspire One netbook around here ? |
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| 01:58.16 | frankS2 | is there a ssh key manager for gnome? |
| 01:58.18 | frankS2 | automaticly remember passphrese etc |
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| 01:59.09 | Ian_Daniher|XO | how would I xmodmap keycode 101 to F9? |
| 01:59.24 | Ian_Daniher|XO | xmodmap -e `101=F9`? |
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| 01:59.27 | Ian_Daniher|XO | it's not working |
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| 02:04.54 | onetinsoldier | i take it there's no 64-bit version of Adobe Flash for linux |
| 02:05.36 | amphi | onetinsoldier: there's an alpha |
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| 02:06.04 | onetinsoldier | amphi: roger. i don't know that i'm instersted in an alpha... i'm thinking |
| 02:06.31 | amphi | onetinsoldier: it worked ok here (until webkit was improved to segfault on loading it ;) |
| 02:06.59 | onetinsoldier | amphi: hmm, interesting. what is webkit? |
| 02:07.25 | Guerin | something you can google? |
| 02:07.26 | amphi | http://webkit.org/ |
| 02:07.42 | onetinsoldier | ok, going there now |
| 02:07.49 | amphi | I'm using midori here, a light gtk browser based on libwebkit |
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| 02:09.06 | onetinsoldier | ah, i see. |
| 02:09.28 | stoned | amphi, Guerin, happy belated thanksgiving |
| 02:09.33 | stoned | assholes :) |
| 02:09.44 | onetinsoldier | amphi: ok, if it worked for you, i'll try out the alpha flash. know where i can get it? |
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| 02:10.08 | amphi | stoned: stuff your nakhba day ;) |
| 02:10.19 | stoned | what language is that |
| 02:10.24 | stoned | is that turkish for turkey? |
| 02:10.25 | stoned | ;) |
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| 02:10.36 | onetinsoldier | rastifarian |
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| 02:19.39 | shalamar7 | hi adb |
| 02:19.44 | stoned | shalamar |
| 02:19.50 | stoned | jewish? |
| 02:19.56 | stoned | shalamar7, shalom! |
| 02:20.01 | stoned | welcome to debian |
| 02:20.02 | shalamar7 | yeah actually |
| 02:20.18 | shalamar7 | shalamar have something to do with jewish? |
| 02:20.23 | stoned | yes |
| 02:20.25 | shalamar7 | didn't know |
| 02:20.37 | stoned | all the jewish people have those ssh and a |
| 02:20.44 | stoned | aar maar kinda noises in the language |
| 02:20.50 | karsten | onetinsoldier: webkit is the new name for the Konquer HTML rendering engine (formerly KHTML) |
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| 02:21.01 | shalamar7 | huh... |
| 02:21.03 | stoned | shalom sheckle shecklamar, joosmabar etc. etc. |
| 02:21.04 | karsten | onetinsoldier: ... Not positive on that prior name. |
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| 02:21.09 | stoned | I dunno man I work in Kew Gardens NYC |
| 02:21.09 | shalamar7 | u know live_helper? |
| 02:21.22 | stoned | lots of my jewish friends speak hebrew |
| 02:21.29 | stoned | it sounds a lot like the sh sound in it |
| 02:21.33 | shalamar7 | i only speak a little |
| 02:21.37 | stoned | so thats how i figured |
| 02:21.44 | karsten | onetinsoldier: Yeah, khtml: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KHTML. Apple picked it up for Safari, and it emerged as Webkit. Google's Chrome also uses it, I think. |
| 02:21.45 | dff | ive installed and im currently setting up BIND9 but named-checkzone didnt come along |
| 02:21.49 | dff | did i miss something? |
| 02:22.12 | onetinsoldier | karsten: oh... interesting. i am using konqeuror right now in lenny. i wonder if it uses webkit. i was thinking it was mozilla based |
| 02:22.15 | shalamar7 | anyone here know live-helper? |
| 02:23.15 | karsten | onetinsoldier: No, it never was. It's actually my preferred browser (it's faster than Iceweasel, offers many of the same of ad-blocking features). But KDE4 *really* borks things up, I'm seeing that in Kubuntu ATM. |
| 02:23.34 | onetinsoldier | karsten: oh! i see... |
| 02:23.37 | shalamar7 | i'm getting a package not found error for a local package which is not even in my local packages lists?! |
| 02:23.41 | karsten | dff: named-checkzone is what? |
| 02:23.54 | karsten | shalamar7: pastebin the error please. |
| 02:24.11 | shalamar7 | new to chat... pastebin? |
| 02:24.11 | onetinsoldier | karsten: is Kubuntu trying to get a little too far ahead of itself? |
| 02:24.39 | dff | karsten, some utility to check the zone files what ive read she come with bind9 |
| 02:24.56 | shalamar7 | just a sec... |
| 02:24.56 | dff | she=should |
| 02:25.06 | karsten | dff: /msg dpkg search. |
| 02:26.11 | shalamar7 | ahh... pastebin.com? |
| 02:26.34 | karsten | !paster |
| 02:26.35 | dpkg | paster is your friendly Debian pastebot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste to have paster paste your results. Ask me about <pastebin> if you want to use another site. |
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| 02:27.01 | adb | pastealacon.com |
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| 02:27.03 | karsten | shalamar7: onetinsoldier: dff: I'm off, friend's waiting. Talk to channel & good luck. |
| 02:27.15 | onetinsoldier | karsten: take care.. se u |
| 02:27.18 | onetinsoldier | see* |
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| 02:27.25 | dff | karsten, thanks reading from the msg |
| 02:27.26 | shalamar7 | bye |
| 02:27.28 | karsten | onetinsoldier: :) |
| 02:27.34 | grand_grunt | How can I install correctly Open Office 3.0 on Lenny? I'm using Gnome. |
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| 02:28.49 | adb | grand_grunt: apt-cache search ooo |
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| 02:30.09 | grand_grunt | adb: many packages, including openoffice3 (I've downloaded it, and ran dpkg -i --force-overwrite *.deb in the directory with OOo3) |
| 02:30.18 | adb | shalamar7: live-helper ? , try #debian-live on OFTC |
| 02:30.40 | adb | grand_grunt: no ! usee |
| 02:30.50 | adb | aptitude install |
| 02:30.55 | luke3321 | Whenever I have 2 NICs in my debian desktop (etch), I am never able to access the net. Could this be the routing tables? Maybe a default route missing? Any help appreciated |
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| 02:31.44 | grand_grunt | adb: http://pastebin.ca/1269928 |
| 02:31.56 | adb | aptitude install openoffice.org |
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| 02:32.44 | grand_grunt | adb: It does nothing. And I still have 2.4 when launching from Gnome menu. |
| 02:33.09 | adb | ak , k |
| 02:33.46 | shalamar7 | ahhh... pasted to paste.debian.net.... OFTC = off-topic channel? |
| 02:33.56 | luke3321 | grand_frunt: In lenny openoffice.org is at version 2.4.1, you would have to build 3.0 from source or find a .deb on the net |
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| 02:34.14 | adb | !oftc |
| 02:34.15 | dpkg | oftc is, like, the Open and Free Technology Community, a support/collaboration service. They have an IRC network: irc.oftc.net. You may be connected to OFTC's network. See also <freenode> and <fact sharing> |
| 02:34.27 | grand_grunt | luke3321: I found .deb from OOo website: they give a tar.gz with all .deb |
| 02:34.48 | luke3321 | grand_grunt: did you try to install that deb? |
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| 02:35.07 | shalamar7 | ahhh... thx |
| 02:35.52 | grand_grunt | luke3321: yes. They say "dpkg -i openoffice.org --force-overwrite", that did nothing. Then I ran "dpkg -i *.deb --force-overwrite" in the .deb directory I have downloaded. |
| 02:36.03 | grand_grunt | And.. nothing more. Stil 2.4 from Gnome. |
| 02:36.18 | luke3321 | grand_grunt: Huh, I've never seen that before.... |
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| 02:37.21 | grand_grunt | aptitude search openoffice shows openoffice3.org installed, and I cann't find it in /usr/bin or /usr/bin/X11 .. that sucks. |
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| 02:37.58 | adb | locate openoffice3 |
| 02:38.20 | luke3321 | open the deb you downloaded with gdeb, and look thru the files, find the executable |
| 02:38.33 | grand_grunt | adb: nothting. |
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| 02:40.08 | grand_grunt | luke3321: the .deb seems to place the files in /opt.. I'll check that. |
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| 02:42.00 | bluethundr | I am having a problem installing CPAN |
| 02:42.11 | bluethundr | it sticks at the select continent option |
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| 02:42.35 | bluethundr | it offers no options and repeats that you are entering the wrong option |
| 02:42.57 | grand_grunt | luke3321: I have a openoffice.org and a openoffice.org3 directory in /opt. |
| 02:43.18 | luke3321 | grand_grunt:anything in either of those? |
| 02:43.44 | grand_grunt | No |
| 02:43.59 | luke3321 | just empty dirs? |
| 02:44.22 | bluethundr | can anyone offer any CPAN advice? |
| 02:44.33 | puff | bluethundr: I think CPAN sucks. |
| 02:44.46 | puff | bluethundr: For precisely this reason. |
| 02:44.56 | puff | bluethundr: When you say "installing CPAN", what do you mean? |
| 02:44.57 | grand_grunt | luke3321: erf, not empty. They contain many thinks, but, as far as I've seen, no binaries to run. |
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| 02:45.08 | bluethundr | perl -MCPAN -e shell |
| 02:45.11 | shalamar7 | i'm back...at oftc the lights are on but nobody's home |
| 02:45.13 | puff | bluethundr: I assume you don't mean you're setting up a CPAN mirror, so do you mean.. right. |
| 02:45.28 | luke3321 | grand_grunt: Hmm, im downloading the deb now, im gonna look at it, just hold on a sec |
| 02:45.31 | puff | bluethundr: I hate the way the perl crowd always say "oh, just use MCPAN, it'sno big deal". |
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| 02:45.40 | puff | bluethundr: Lemme see if I can find my notes on that. |
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| 02:45.51 | bluethundr | no, I am attempting to setup the CPAN shell so thtat I may install modules needed to run a twiki |
| 02:45.54 | puff | But it might be better to ask on #perl. |
| 02:46.02 | puff | bluethundr: Yeah, I know. |
| 02:46.12 | puff | bluethundr: Though you may be better off using the twiki package. |
| 02:46.22 | bluethundr | well, I am |
| 02:46.27 | bluethundr | or at least I plan to |
| 02:46.35 | bluethundr | but in order to do so it needs certain perl modules |
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| 02:46.48 | shalamar7 | so back to original question... I'm using live -helper and getting package not found error for local package which is not even referred to package lists?! |
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| 02:47.18 | stoned | what is a live helper? |
| 02:47.18 | shalamar7 | and which does exist in chroot_local-packages?! |
| 02:47.29 | stoned | !live helper |
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| 02:47.34 | stoned | !live-helper |
| 02:47.34 | dpkg | debian-live is probably live-helper. make-live is a utility to build Debian Live systems. It takes a Debian mirror as an input and outputs a live system image (ISO image for CDs and DVDs, or tarball for netboot). make-live is gaining significant functionality and stability as development continutes. Homepage: http://debian-live.alioth.debian.org/ , or irc://irc.debian.org/#debian-live |
| 02:47.40 | stoned | oh |
| 02:47.41 | shalamar7 | live-helper is Debian tool for building live CD images |
| 02:47.42 | stoned | wow |
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| 02:48.59 | bluethundr | I remember doing this under ubuntu and it was extremely trivial |
| 02:49.13 | shalamar7 | ah, I see the IRC channel referred to ... lemme try that |
| 02:49.34 | shalamar7 | I am doing a *lot* of customization on this iso |
| 02:49.48 | puff | bluethundr: Hm, are you sure? Try just installing the package first, see if that works |
| 02:50.12 | htmlol | what module do I load in order to get /dev/dsp to show up? |
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| 02:50.52 | bluethundr | I'm sorry which package are you referring to |
| 02:50.59 | puff | bluethundr: "sudo aptitude install twiki" |
| 02:51.01 | bluethundr | aptitude install perl? |
| 02:51.03 | bluethundr | ah |
| 02:51.11 | bluethundr | well, I would do that |
| 02:51.25 | bluethundr | but I think it will be missing all the perl modules that it will need to run effectively |
| 02:51.38 | puff | bluethundr: Try it and find out, you might be surprised. |
| 02:51.47 | luke3321 | grand_grunt: I don't see any binarys, maybe a botched build on their part? |
| 02:51.57 | htmlol | because I remember saying that /dev/dsp wasn't showing up, and someone had me modprobe something and it was there. |
| 02:52.00 | bluethundr | meh.. worth a shot I suppose.. what have I got to lose? this IS a fresh install after all... |
| 02:52.23 | grand_grunt | luke3321: I don't know how they managed that. |
| 02:52.30 | shalamar7 | oh... that irc room is just a clone of the other one... nobody's home |
| 02:52.41 | shalamar7 | so noone have a clue? |
| 02:52.47 | luke3321 | grand_grunt: Long night with no cofee ;) |
| 02:53.13 | grand_grunt | luke3321: Do you see desktop-integration directory? It installs the menu links. |
| 02:53.33 | grand_grunt | luke3321: long night with many coffee, you mean? ^^ |
| 02:53.35 | puff | bluethundr: Good luck. |
| 02:53.44 | shalamar7 | ah well... |
| 02:53.50 | puff | bluethundr: I've gotta be afk for a bit. |
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| 02:54.17 | shalamar7 | afk |
| 02:54.34 | shalamar7 | !afk |
| 02:54.35 | dpkg | afk is probably Away From Keyboard |
| 02:55.17 | luke3321 | grand_grunt: Just saw that, the links work? |
| 02:55.19 | shalamar7 | away |
| 02:55.24 | grand_grunt | luke3321: Heee, I got it now! |
| 02:55.30 | shalamar7 | !away |
| 02:55.30 | dpkg | Do not use public away/back messages in #debian. If we want to know where you are, we'll /whois you. In BX, /set auto_away off; ask in #yourircclient if you have questions. If you continue to use public aways/backs you will be devoiced. http://sackheads.org/~bnaylor/spew/away_msgs.html |
| 02:55.35 | luke3321 | grand_grunt: Congrats! |
| 02:55.36 | grand_grunt | Yes it works. No icons, but it works. |
| 02:55.51 | luke3321 | good enough |
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| 02:56.26 | grand_grunt | yes, but I'd like some perfection (not my own computer) |
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| 03:00.15 | Arafangion | What's the easiest way to get the latest, bleeding edge epiphany> |
| 03:00.16 | Arafangion | ? |
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| 03:05.26 | petemc | Arafangion: mu |
| 03:06.14 | Arafangion | petemc: Is that a package name? |
| 03:06.20 | petemc | no |
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| 03:06.26 | grand_grunt | Arg. Now, when I want to use aptitude, it asks for dependancies issues about open office. |
| 03:06.41 | Arafangion | petemc: Didn't think so, what kind of reference was it? :) |
| 03:06.51 | petemc | no reference |
| 03:07.16 | Arafangion | petemc: You decided to just randomly type in 'mu', with my nick? |
| 03:07.20 | petemc | emptiness |
| 03:07.29 | amphi | heh |
| 03:07.43 | Arafangion | petemc: Dude, go get a coffee or something. :) |
| 03:07.54 | Arafangion | petemc: A good one, not one of those crap instant crappiness... |
| 03:08.52 | petemc | rid yourself of desire |
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| 03:09.20 | grand_grunt | I give up with Open Office. |
| 03:09.40 | Arafangion | grand_grunt: Good man. :) |
| 03:10.30 | Arafangion | grand_grunt: You really only need it if you are typing large documents, and you can't or won't use LaTeX, or if you need to be very compatible with MS Office. |
| 03:10.35 | grand_grunt | Arafangion: I think so. a free software easier to install on Vista than on Debian shouldn't be installed. |
| 03:10.39 | amphi | grand_grunt: LyX and gnumeric? ;) |
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| 03:11.47 | grand_grunt | Arafangion: I don't need it as far as I'm concerned. But I'm installing Debian in multiboot with Vista on the laptop of a friend, bored with Vista. So I'd like to give her the best of Free Software. |
| 03:12.17 | grand_grunt | And she may have use of Open Office 3.0 ability to open and modify PDF files. |
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| 03:13.00 | petemc | she does better than most |
| 03:13.15 | Gnurdux | grand_grunt, prolly install ubuntu... its all the rage among n00bs these days |
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| 03:13.31 | Arafangion | grand_grunt: It can modify PDF files? |
| 03:13.56 | Arafangion | Gnurdux: Ubuntu's biggest advantage over Debian is lost once Debian's completely installed and setup nicely. |
| 03:14.03 | grand_grunt | Gnurdux: excepting the price, I see no differences between Ubuntu and Debian. same time to boot, same bugs.. (troll launched) |
| 03:14.09 | grand_grunt | Arafangion: Yes, it is possible. |
| 03:14.16 | Gnurdux | the price? |
| 03:14.21 | Gnurdux | the price aint a difference |
| 03:14.25 | Gnurdux | both are free.... |
| 03:14.32 | grand_grunt | Oooops |
| 03:14.38 | grand_grunt | I meant Ubuntu and Vista. |
| 03:14.38 | Gnurdux | ubuntu is commercial |
| 03:14.42 | Gnurdux | oh |
| 03:14.43 | Gnurdux | lol |
| 03:14.53 | Gnurdux | you prolly have a point there |
| 03:14.56 | Gnurdux | although |
| 03:15.04 | Gnurdux | is ubuntu slower to boot than debian? |
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| 03:16.31 | grand_grunt | Gnurdux: yes, there is a real difference. I've tested both of them on the same hardware. |
| 03:16.45 | Gnurdux | interesting |
| 03:16.58 | Gnurdux | i have never put 'buntu on thus machine |
| 03:17.03 | Gnurdux | or any other machine, come to that |
| 03:17.28 | grand_grunt | I've installed here Compiz Fusion (she got a Intel graphic and Vista with Aero is very awfull), now I'd like to achieve perfection with OOo3. |
| 03:18.47 | grand_grunt | There is still the "ugly" way.. download a .run for all distros, or run a "./configure make make install" |
| 03:19.02 | adb | better learn her to use Linux ! |
| 03:19.22 | grand_grunt | adb: She will learn more with Debian than with Ubuntu, I think. |
| 03:20.13 | adb | i means w/o y kidding as compiz |
| 03:21.07 | grand_grunt | Tomorrow she will have to use her computer with public, for some kind of Santa Show. So, the most beautifull, the best. |
| 03:21.46 | adb | wrong point , |
| 03:22.38 | adb | computer is 'nt pictures |
| 03:24.14 | grand_grunt | Hum, since OOo3 is available in sid, let me packet spin. |
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| 03:30.45 | quentusrex | Where can I go for some help creating a debian package? |
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| 03:31.26 | grand_grunt | What do I must add to source.list and apt/preferences so as to get only openoffice3 and it's dependancies from sid, and everything else from lenny? |
| 03:31.41 | dmoerner | grand_grunt, oo3 is not in sid |
| 03:33.00 | grand_grunt | Oh sh*** I just saw that on openoffice.debian.net |
| 03:34.00 | dmoerner | grand_grunt, that site is broken, sid has 2.4.1 |
| 03:34.01 | dmoerner | as does testing |
| 03:34.01 | grand_grunt | Then, there is no way to get OOo 3 correct on Debian |
| 03:34.01 | dmoerner | it's in experimental |
| 03:34.36 | mycae | Does anyone know of a way around this bug: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=503739 . I have the option to resolve deps by hand, but don't want to stuff up my install. |
| 03:34.55 | mycae | (its a wicd dep. bug) |
| 03:35.09 | dmoerner | mycae, aptitude install dhcp3-client net-tools |
| 03:35.34 | dmoerner | both of which are priority: important, so you probably already have them installed |
| 03:35.44 | mycae | i do. |
| 03:35.56 | mycae | its the python-dbus that is complaining |
| 03:36.07 | dmoerner | that has nothing to do with the bug you just cited |
| 03:36.09 | dmoerner | what is your problem? |
| 03:37.30 | mycae | "The following packages are BROKEN: wicd" wicd: Depends: python-dbus which is a virtual package. or python2.4-dbus which is a virtual package. Depends: python-glade2 which is a vritual package |
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| 03:38.32 | dmoerner | mycae, what is the output of apt-cache policy python-dbus? use a pastebin please |
| 03:38.48 | mycae | I'd use pastebin if i had net access on it. |
| 03:38.53 | mycae | Im on my fedora box. |
| 03:39.01 | pen | how's fedora 10? |
| 03:39.07 | mycae | i have limited access... |
| 03:39.13 | pen | ?? |
| 03:39.28 | mycae | wait. idea. |
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| 03:41.07 | mycae | http://pastebin.com/m59be7e9 |
| 03:41.47 | dmoerner | thanks, but it would be more helpful to have the output of apt-cache policy python-dbus |
| 03:43.11 | grand_grunt | What do the "Pin: release..." line means in /etc/apt/preferences? |
| 03:43.15 | mycae | http://pastebin.com/m54e8e134 |
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| 03:44.49 | onetinsoldier | grand_grunt, pinfo apt_preferences |
| 03:45.23 | grand_grunt | onetinsoldier: Thx. |
| 03:45.26 | onetinsoldier | yep |
| 03:45.38 | mycae | oh, pen, were you asking me about f10? Sorry, I don't know, im on F9. |
| 03:46.00 | mycae | setting up deb on eeepc. |
| 03:46.08 | dmoerner | mycae, python-dbus is in all available versions of debian. what are the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 03:48.46 | mycae | http://nopaste.info/f9c361c268.html |
| 03:49.07 | onetinsoldier | grand_grunt, it boils down to letting you do something like putting the sid repository in you apt sources.list. then you can put a higher priority on you etch/lenny repo, but still get a sid package autmagically with apt if it's not in etch or lenny |
| 03:49.09 | mycae | was forced to change pastebins due to zelous spam filter. |
| 03:49.14 | mycae | *zealous. |
| 03:49.24 | onetinsoldier | you = your* |
| 03:50.13 | onetinsoldier | automagically* |
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| 03:51.26 | grand_grunt | onetinsoldier: Is that sure? I cann't find "openoffice.org3" while searching with only Lenny repositorys. |
| 03:52.11 | onetinsoldier | grand_grunt, i have used linux in the last three years until very recently... but i did it years ago. so, i'm pretty sure |
| 03:53.29 | onetinsoldier | years ago i could have help you set it up. but don't ask me to right now! hehe |
| 03:53.46 | dmoerner | mycae, have you run aptitude update? |
| 03:53.52 | mycae | yes. |
| 03:54.03 | mycae | maybe my mirror is broken? |
| 03:54.11 | dmoerner | judd, versions python-dbus |
| 03:54.11 | quentusrex | Help. I'm trying to build a php based package for apt. Similiar to phpmyadmin. But I can't figure out how to copy the actual php code into the final directory. Can someone help??? |
| 03:54.12 | judd | dmoerner: python-dbus -- etch: 0.71-3 lenny: 0.82.4-2 sid: 0.83.0-1 |
| 03:54.56 | dmoerner | mycae, that seems likely |
| 03:55.03 | dmoerner | since lenny definitely has a working python-dbus |
| 03:55.04 | onetinsoldier | quentusrex, hopefully someone will help you out. but just as an fyi, i think there is a debian-devel channel |
| 03:55.11 | quentusrex | I've got the debian/dir file which creates the directory. But I can't figure out how to get the source copied to it's final resting place... |
| 03:55.17 | dmoerner | quentusrex, man dh_install |
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| 03:56.05 | grand_grunt | onetinsoldier: Did you mean that I must add experimental to source.list, or not, to get a package available only in experimental? |
| 03:56.13 | mycae | Thanks dmoerner |
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| 03:56.57 | dmoerner | grand_grunt, you must add experimental to sources.list to download packages from there |
| 03:57.15 | onetinsoldier | grand_grunt, i think so... but you will want to edit your apt.preferences after adding and this for sure --> prior to running apt-get update |
| 03:57.24 | dmoerner | it would be easiest to put the line in an arbitrary file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d for easy manipulation |
| 03:59.23 | muggle | greetings, I am considering filing a bug for a networking issue I'm having with Lenny RC1, but am unsure what to file it under. would the kernel be appropriate? (please excuse my newbie-ness). |
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| 04:02.31 | mycae | Dmoerner. Thanks worked a treat. |
| 04:02.44 | grand_grunt | Gargbl.. still not running. I cann't understand. |
| 04:03.52 | dmoerner | muggle, you could just file it against debian-installer |
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| 04:04.56 | grand_grunt | IS there a command to run, after modifying /etc/apt/preferences? apt-get update and more? |
| 04:05.50 | muggle | dmoerner, it actually worked okay with the netinstall, but for some reason fails to make a connection on startup now; bouncing ifconfig is enough to get it going again. should I really go with debian-installer? |
| 04:06.54 | dmoerner | muggle, ah, no that's not a problem with d-i |
| 04:07.14 | dmoerner | if ifconfig allows it to work then you should try diagnosing the problem more by examining /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 04:07.49 | pstickne | My time is off by 40 minutes and ntpd is running -- what could be a/the problem? |
| 04:09.06 | onetinsoldier | pstickne, have you run the ntpdate command? |
| 04:09.26 | dmoerner | pstickne, ntp doesn't update the time if the local system time diverges too much by the internet time |
| 04:09.36 | dmoerner | i think the threshold is 5 or 15 minutes but i might not be wrong |
| 04:09.54 | dmoerner | *extra not above. in any case you should try using date manually to get in the vicinity and then running ntpdate again |
| 04:09.55 | Arafangion | dmoerner: I'm sure it does, but it doesn't do so immediately. It just changes it slightly so that it's more correct. |
| 04:10.13 | pstickne | installing ntpdate now :) |
| 04:10.14 | Arafangion | dmoerner: I could be wrong, though, but it changes it in small steps. |
| 04:10.23 | muggle | dmoerner, thanks. I just have one wired connection. could you point me towards how I might do some further diagnostics? |
| 04:10.28 | onetinsoldier | pstickne, roger |
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| 04:11.21 | muggle | I suspect it might have to do with the d44 module my card is using. |
| 04:13.36 | pstickne | onetinsoldier, dmoerner: thanks, I pulled in time from an NTP server :) I didn't realize there was a threshold. |
| 04:14.07 | onetinsoldier | :-) |
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| 04:18.39 | grand_grunt | I've read the man of apt_preferences. tried many times to get the package I want. nothink works. What should I do? |
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| 04:19.03 | onetinsoldier | grand_grunt, you're sure it's in sid? |
| 04:19.10 | craigevil | what package? |
| 04:19.21 | grand_grunt | onetinsoldier: It is in experimental. |
| 04:19.29 | onetinsoldier | openoffice 3.0 |
| 04:19.42 | craigevil | apt-get install -t experimental packagename |
| 04:20.04 | craigevil | you have to tell apt to install from experimental |
| 04:20.28 | grand_grunt | It says it is not available. |
| 04:20.44 | craigevil | do you have experimental in your sources.list? |
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| 04:20.57 | grand_grunt | craigevil: yes! |
| 04:21.27 | adb | apt-get update ? |
| 04:21.59 | grand_grunt | adb: yes |
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| 04:22.35 | adb | use wget + dpkg -i |
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| 04:23.41 | adb | not sure if ooo3 support lenny libs |
| 04:23.43 | grand_grunt | adb: I've used something like that, but is does not work properly. aptitude sees the packages added and halts with conflicts when I want to add something else. |
| 04:24.16 | adb | voila |
| 04:25.09 | grand_grunt | Ho, I give up. bored. |
| 04:25.17 | grand_grunt | adb: French? |
| 04:25.23 | adb | y |
| 04:25.46 | craigevil | i install Ooo3 the lazy way and used Synaptic |
| 04:26.02 | grand_grunt | craigevil: What is the lazy way? |
| 04:26.21 | craigevil | click install |
| 04:26.46 | onetinsoldier | i think he means using the lazy way is using synaptic. a gnome package manager |
| 04:26.49 | grand_grunt | craigevil: With experimental in your source.list, then? |
| 04:26.55 | craigevil | yes |
| 04:27.56 | craigevil | you could also try using gdebi with this package> http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/o/openoffice.org/openoffice.org_3.0.0-4_i386.deb |
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| 04:30.44 | grand_grunt | craigevil: Dependancies issues. |
| 04:31.00 | craigevil | it may not install on lenny |
| 04:31.17 | onetinsoldier | grand_grunt, how many>? |
| 04:31.49 | craigevil | you could try adding unstable to your sources.list, atm there isnt much difference between it and lenny |
| 04:31.54 | grand_grunt | onetinsoldier: Don't know, gdebi refuses to launch. |
| 04:32.02 | onetinsoldier | grand_grunt, roger |
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| 04:32.43 | grand_grunt | craigevil: lenny and unstable and experimental? |
| 04:33.05 | craigevil | yes just keep an eye on what wants to install/upgrade |
| 04:33.15 | grand_grunt | Yes. |
| 04:33.16 | onetinsoldier | etch = stable, sid = unstable, then.. experimental! |
| 04:34.35 | onetinsoldier | oops |
| 04:34.46 | grand_grunt | I've never understood the difference between unstable, sid and lenny :$ |
| 04:34.46 | onetinsoldier | etch = stable, lenny = testing, sid = unstable, then.. experimental! |
| 04:34.52 | grand_grunt | :) |
| 04:34.53 | onetinsoldier | there we go... better |
| 04:35.00 | grand_grunt | Now I understand. |
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| 04:35.46 | onetinsoldier | i don't think they even make experimental available.. at least not through apt |
| 04:36.06 | onetinsoldier | i think |
| 04:36.54 | craigevil | you have to tell apt to install from exp |
| 04:37.00 | onetinsoldier | oh |
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| 04:38.58 | grand_grunt | Strange, now I'm getting OOo from Unstable with Synaptic. |
| 04:39.42 | grand_grunt | If it is able to install from unstable, then experimental should work too :) |
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| 04:42.01 | onetinsoldier | grand_grunt, unstable probably just works better than experimental. us mere mortals probably shouldn't touch experimental with a ten foot pole.. lol |
| 04:42.31 | ham5 | can you boot a cd in another tty? |
| 04:43.34 | grand_grunt | onetinsoldier: Yes, but OOo 3 seems to work, and is in experimental. So? |
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| 04:44.20 | onetinsoldier | grand_grunt, i don't know... :shrugs: |
| 04:45.01 | onetinsoldier | you got it worked out and learned something tho, that's all that really matters at this point, imho |
| 04:47.31 | craigevil | did you try doing apt-get -t experimental install openoffice.org |
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| 04:49.31 | cast|lir | rebooted my lenny install with encrypted root today after doing an upgrade, no booty now :( |
| 04:50.05 | grand_grunt | Some Java libs to upgrade.. I now understand. |
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| 04:53.57 | grand_grunt | I got some packages in "keep in state" mode, how unlock them? |
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| 04:54.36 | craigevil | grand_grunt: "hold" is set package on hold with 'echo package hold|dpkg --set-selections' :: revert it with 'echo package install|dpkg --set-selections' :: list packages on hold with 'dpkg --get-selections | grep hold' |
| 04:54.39 | onetinsoldier | hmmm, kernel-package has just been updated in lenny. i wonder if packaging the modules for my 'linux-2.6.28-rc6' kernel will work now.. bombed out on the modules deal before. |
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| 04:55.57 | muggle | networking issue where no wired connection established on startup with 2.6.26-1-686, although can ping locally, and can get working connection by bouncing ifconfig. how might I further diagnose? |
| 04:56.43 | Throat | bouncing? |
| 04:56.57 | muggle | ifconfig eth0 down && ifconfig eth0 up |
| 04:57.26 | Throat | oh, that's kind of strange |
| 04:57.44 | adb | ifconfig -a down && ifconfig -a |
| 04:57.52 | adb | up |
| 04:58.01 | Throat | allow-hotplug or auto in /etc/network/interfaces? |
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| 04:58.24 | muggle | auto |
| 04:58.36 | Throat | you could try having both |
| 04:59.04 | Throat | but it' unlikeky to solve your issue, I think |
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| 04:59.56 | muggle | it's an old BCM4401 ethernet card I've got, in a Dell |
| 05:00.02 | Throat | any errors on boot in dmesg or /var/log/messages? |
| 05:01.06 | grand_grunt | (For those who want to know the end of the story: all openoffice uninstalled, and reinstalled to 2.4, Lenny. Thx to all) |
| 05:01.27 | Throat | and the reason I think it's strange is, that ifconfig up doesn't really configure anything |
| 05:02.10 | onetinsoldier | grand_grunt, what do you mean exactly? you ended up going back to openoffice v2.4 or something? |
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| 05:04.11 | cast|lir | argh, screen session locked up |
| 05:04.21 | grand_grunt | onetinsoldier: Yes. |
| 05:04.36 | Throat | muggle, could be that it's just 'off' and only goes to 'on' when you do ifconfig up (and the -a according to manpages is just for displaying? - normally it' something like ifconfig eth0 up) |
| 05:04.57 | onetinsoldier | grand_grunt, copy that.. couldn't get the sid dependencies worked out? |
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| 05:05.33 | muggle | no errors in dmesg... not seeing anything in /var/log/messages either. I appear to have a connection until I take it down. |
| 05:06.00 | grand_grunt | onetinsoldier: I don't really know, but there are many changes than I thank from 2.4 to 3.0. More integration with other tools. |
| 05:06.18 | ceil420 | what's the command to show my LAN IP address and gateway, etc |
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| 05:06.26 | Throat | well, actually, you must... or... - what exactly do you mean with 'ping locally' - ping the router? |
| 05:06.47 | muggle | yes, the router |
| 05:06.56 | Throat | also check route -n output when it's not working after bootup as well as what ifconfig shows |
| 05:07.01 | grand_grunt | IMO, it's not a good way to create a "super tool" where upgrading the writer needs to upgrade all open office and the browser and libs and the kernel.. |
| 05:07.03 | Throat | well, if you can ping that, you have net |
| 05:07.12 | ceil420 | i thought it was ifconfig, but i don't seem to have that installed :x |
| 05:07.14 | muggle | hm, okay, thanks |
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| 05:07.27 | Throat | check route -n... |
| 05:07.29 | grand_grunt | And OOo 3 looks like a "super tool", as Ms Office. |
| 05:07.42 | Throat | that seems most likely if you can only ping the router |
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| 05:08.46 | onetinsoldier | grand_grunt, copy |
| 05:10.39 | Throat | muggle, should typically have two lines: something like 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U for your local net and 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG for your router |
| 05:11.38 | cast|lir | so, anyone with encrypted root running lenny upgrade to find that they couldn't boot anymore? i think initrd got bunged up somehow, will grab grml and see how much i can fix things up |
| 05:12.15 | lucax | could someone explain me whats debian live all about? |
| 05:12.27 | grand_grunt | onetinsoldier: copy what? "I won't try to get a package in experimental repository", hundred times? |
| 05:12.29 | muggle | throat, yes, ok, that's what I see now. I think I'll drop out of here to reboot this box and start up chat on another box, thx |
| 05:12.56 | ceil420 | what's the command to show my LAN IP address and gateway, etc? i thought it was ifconfig, but i don't seem to have that and it's not showing up in an apt-cache search |
| 05:13.05 | Throat | oh - you're on the box that doesn't boot with net, but you "fixed" it up now? |
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| 05:13.10 | Throat | boing |
| 05:13.26 | onetinsoldier | grand_grunt, copy.. i hear you, 10-4 good buddy, roger, copy that.... hehe. that's what i meant by 'copy' |
| 05:13.46 | lucax | ceil420, ifconfig? |
| 05:13.50 | Throat | lucax, perhaps '/msg dpkg debian live'? |
| 05:14.11 | lucax | Throat, i only dont get the ponit of it |
| 05:14.29 | Firefishe | I downloaded alsa-tools from the alsa project web site. I also downloaded all the other source tarballs, and compiled them successfully, and installed them. I see no configure information in the alsa-tools directory I have, only a Makefile and a gitcompile file. Might someone be able to enlighten me. |
| 05:14.31 | Throat | ceil420, /sbin/ifconfig /sbin/route -n (root has sbin in the path) |
| 05:14.34 | ceil420 | lucax, seems it might be in /sbin, which isn't in my path :x http://www.cgsecurity.org/Articles/sotm29/ifconfig_trojan.jpg |
| 05:14.44 | ceil420 | Throat, yeah, i just noticed that when i went googling for an image |
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| 05:14.50 | ceil420 | thanks people |
| 05:14.52 | lucax | ceil420, try it as root |
| 05:14.54 | ceil420 | roots up |
| 05:15.08 | Throat | lucax, do you know koppix? |
| 05:15.34 | lucax | Throat, yeah, im using ubuntu... an ive used other live distros |
| 05:15.44 | craigevil | Firefishe: why download for the alsa site? why not use the packages in the repos |
| 05:16.24 | lucax | but... do they let u build a custom live iso from debian live? i mean thats the goal? |
| 05:16.28 | Throat | lucax, so what's the problem? Seems make-live helps you to make your own custom-made live-cd (or dvd) |
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| 05:17.06 | lucax | ill give it a shot |
| 05:17.51 | Firefishe | craigevil: I need up-to-the-day driver compatibility. I have an Asus G50V laptop with some problems. My current alsa installation doesn't work correctly in setting up my intel sound controller, Atheros wi-fi is toast. |
| 05:18.02 | Throat | lucax, irc.debian.org/#debian-live probably knows better :) |
| 05:18.03 | onetinsoldier | Firefishe, perhaps they can help in the #alsa channel? |
| 05:18.14 | Firefishe | onetinsoldier: gone for the night |
| 05:18.19 | onetinsoldier | oh |
| 05:18.33 | lucax | Throat, thanks man... that will help me |
| 05:18.36 | onetinsoldier | all 55 of those people? |
| 05:18.39 | Firefishe | I *will* go there tomorrow. Had a person helpiong me earlier, but he had to go. |
| 05:18.53 | onetinsoldier | ok, i see |
| 05:18.53 | Throat | onetinsoldier, well, do you know? |
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| 05:19.02 | Firefishe | Well, if you can see my post, I've been waiting for an hour hnow. |
| 05:19.04 | Firefishe | now |
| 05:20.06 | onetinsoldier | Throat, sorry. know what? |
| 05:20.31 | Throat | the same stuff as the 55 people :) |
| 05:20.34 | Firefishe | craigevil: I have sound out of my laptop speakers, but my headphone / S/PDIF jack isn't giving me anything out of it. |
| 05:20.39 | onetinsoldier | hell no |
| 05:20.43 | Throat | see :) |
| 05:20.59 | Firefishe | wishes laptop designers would stick with analog! |
| 05:21.21 | onetinsoldier | Throat, read above.. what i was wondering is.. are all 55 of those people gone for the night |
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| 05:22.00 | Throat | only withes for a beautiful girl to knock on his door, asking for wild and passionate sex... but laptop designers sticking to analog would be the next best thing |
| 05:22.01 | onetinsoldier | Throat, then Firefishe responded with more info on the #alsa channel deal |
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| 05:24.13 | Firefishe | I have 2 primary issus on this lenny laptop (2.6.26-1-686 kernel): 1. Atheros wi-fi. (Tried madwifi, compat-wireless-old, no dice on either). 2. Intel-hda sound card (IH9). Works, but no ouput to the phone jack. I'll ask this only once and leave it be. |
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| 05:25.13 | Throat | onetinsoldier, oh, got the context wrong... |
| 05:25.26 | faffi | Firefishe: could you elaborate on the wifi issue |
| 05:25.42 | onetinsoldier | Throat, np.. easy enough to do... i've done it more than a few times myself, hehe |
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| 05:26.45 | gokus | yo guys |
| 05:26.53 | gokus | I want to install twiki onto my debian box |
| 05:26.54 | craigevil | Firefishe: you might take a look at http://monalisa.cern.ch/blog/2008/09/16/ubuntu-on-asus-g50v/ |
| 05:26.56 | Firefishe | faffi: Gladly. It doesn't work. I've tried numerous tweaks from madwifi and compat-wireless and they don't seem to work. What details would you like? |
| 05:27.06 | gokus | but the debian repos are waaayyy the hell too old |
| 05:27.12 | faffi | well any errors? |
| 05:27.17 | gokus | is there a way to use ubuntu repos in debian? |
| 05:27.25 | gokus | is this not recommended? |
| 05:27.39 | muggle | throat, well, on reboot I have a working connection. perhaps this has to do with my router then? |
| 05:27.42 | craigevil | gokus: not if you want your system to work, sid is newer than ubuntu anyway |
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| 05:27.50 | ceil420 | yeah, use sid |
| 05:27.55 | Firefishe | faffi: Let me check something |
| 05:28.06 | Throat | Firefishe, and did you look at the doku in dpkg's madwifi factoid? |
| 05:28.08 | Firefishe | faffi: Appreciate the help, btw. :) |
| 05:28.15 | Firefishe | doku? |
| 05:28.19 | Firefishe | documents? |
| 05:28.22 | faffi | Firefishe: i havent even really done anything :P |
| 05:28.25 | gokus | well, sid may be newer. but the debian repositories of twiki are too old. :( |
| 05:28.47 | gokus | at least as installed from the default repos |
| 05:28.53 | ceil420 | gokus, what version do you need? |
| 05:29.03 | ceil420 | twiki is at version 4.1.2-5 in sid |
| 05:29.08 | Throat | muggle, might be... if you can ping the router AND your routing table looks normal after boot, then it shouldn't be this machine (I found it suspicious anyways that ifconfig eth0 down/up fixes it) |
| 05:29.15 | gokus | oh, nice to know |
| 05:29.20 | gokus | that version should do well |
| 05:29.31 | gokus | but the version I got before was like 4.0.2 or somesuch |
| 05:29.35 | Throat | muggle, or it might be a runtime condition during boot - then it wouldn't have to happen everytime |
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| 05:29.57 | gokus | that's using aptitude not apt-get |
| 05:29.59 | ceil420 | gokus, you're probably using Etch's 2yr old packages, or Lenny's slightly-older-than-Sid ones |
| 05:30.17 | muggle | hm, okay... this didn't happen the first few boots after install, but now with every cold router/system startup, no interwebs. |
| 05:30.26 | gokus | ah.. could well be |
| 05:30.39 | gokus | forgive my ignorance, I come to you from ubuntuland |
| 05:30.50 | gokus | but is 4.0r5 sid or etch? |
| 05:30.56 | Throat | muggle, router might just take some time to forward |
| 05:31.00 | onetinsoldier | etch |
| 05:31.07 | gokus | crap |
| 05:31.09 | gokus | okay |
| 05:31.11 | onetinsoldier | 5.0 = lenny |
| 05:31.15 | ceil420 | # apt-cache policy twiki |
| 05:31.16 | ceil420 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:31.22 | craigevil | 4.1.2-5 is the version of twiki in sid |
| 05:31.25 | ceil420 | 500 http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/main Packages |
| 05:31.30 | onetinsoldier | sid.... doesn't get a version # |
| 05:31.37 | ceil420 | yes it does |
| 05:31.40 | gokus | ah, okay |
| 05:31.41 | onetinsoldier | oh? |
| 05:31.43 | gokus | thanks for the resource |
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| 05:31.52 | ceil420 | oh, i thought you meant package version #s |
| 05:31.54 | ceil420 | not the distro release |
| 05:32.01 | muggle | throat, i just find it strange this wasn't happening before recent installs (Intrepid, then Lenny) |
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| 05:33.08 | Throat | perhaps you just never noticed... |
| 05:33.41 | onetinsoldier | ceil420, :-) |
| 05:33.49 | gokus | the current directory on that server takes me to debian-40r5-i386-CD-1.iso |
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| 05:34.04 | muggle | throat, my habit of starting router then immediately booting box hasn't changed. maybe something in boot order is different? |
| 05:34.31 | onetinsoldier | gokus, what are you running right now? ubuntu? etch? just wondering |
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| 05:34.52 | gokus | well, I was running ubuntu 8.10 previously on the target machine |
| 05:34.56 | gokus | right now I'm on a mac |
| 05:35.06 | onetinsoldier | ok, i was a little cornfused on that detail |
| 05:35.17 | gokus | ah, I see |
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| 05:35.46 | onetinsoldier | us cornholio's get that way.. lol |
| 05:36.15 | muggle | thanks for the help, i'm going to play with my router |
| 05:36.32 | gokus | I'm sorry if I'm a little confused on my debian terminology as I mention I come to you from the land of ubuntu |
| 05:36.40 | onetinsoldier | np |
| 05:36.48 | gokus | so 4.0r5 is etch and etch is the most current version? |
| 05:36.52 | Firefishe | craigevil: I took a look at that site. My computer is a retail store model from Best Buy, and uses somewhat different equipment (sadly) than the other ones. |
| 05:37.04 | gokus | it has a date of 23 oct 2008 |
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| 05:37.30 | ceil420 | gokus, Etch is the most current 'Stable' release of Debian |
| 05:37.34 | onetinsoldier | etch 4.05r = stable, lenny 5.0 = testing, sid = unstable. then there is.. experimental! |
| 05:37.39 | gokus | ah.. good to know |
| 05:37.40 | ceil420 | it's got older packages, but it's not liable to crash on you |
| 05:37.41 | Throat | gokus, etch is stable, but lenny is frozen and will "soon" become stable |
| 05:37.51 | gokus | hmmmm... |
| 05:37.53 | gokus | good to know |
| 05:38.03 | Throat | gokus, /msg dpkg lenny status |
| 05:38.16 | gokus | so if I download lenny, I may have access to the more current twiki debs? |
| 05:38.29 | gokus | honestly I'm looking for a quick and dirty way of getting my site back up |
| 05:38.36 | Throat | judd, versions twiki |
| 05:38.37 | judd | Throat: twiki -- etch: 1:4.0.5-9.1etch1 etch-security: 1:4.0.5-9.1etch1 lenny: 1:4.1.2-5 sid: 1:4.1.2-5 |
| 05:38.57 | onetinsoldier | probably.. i recommend lenny.. the cd netinst for lenny worked for me right off the bat.. and i have a brand new system |
| 05:39.20 | Throat | gokus, ^^ |
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| 05:39.34 | gokus | right |
| 05:40.23 | deadcat | if i want /tmp to be tmpfs, i have to set that up after the install right? |
| 05:40.39 | cast|lir | deadcat: aye, just set it in /etc/fstab |
| 05:40.54 | gokus | I did piss off dpkg before though |
| 05:40.54 | onetinsoldier | Lenny twiki version right now is... 4.1.2-5 |
| 05:41.01 | gokus | he started calling me moron.. lol |
| 05:41.08 | onetinsoldier | lolz |
| 05:41.27 | deadcat | cast|lir: right. so its after the install |
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| 05:41.41 | onetinsoldier | Lenny twiki version right now is... 4.1.2-5 |
| 05:41.57 | Throat | I think you said that |
| 05:42.01 | Throat | so did judd |
| 05:42.07 | gokus | nice |
| 05:42.18 | gokus | so I am in the process of getting lenny now |
| 05:42.24 | onetinsoldier | he left right after tho, and then came back.. so i imagine he didn't see it before... so i reposted it |
| 05:43.19 | gokus | I am now downloading what I assume is Lenny: debian-testing-i386-CD-1.iso |
| 05:43.28 | onetinsoldier | Throat, oh.. judd already said it before.. i see |
| 05:43.41 | onetinsoldier | gokus, yeah |
| 05:43.47 | gokus | coolbeans. :) |
| 05:43.53 | onetinsoldier | :-) |
| 05:44.17 | gokus | looking forward to running my bitchin' new debian system |
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| 05:44.20 | ioudas | could anyone help me with setting up pop3 and smtp on postfix debian 4.0 http://pastebin.com/m5c645a95 |
| 05:44.29 | gokus | tricked out with my own apache and mail servers |
| 05:44.59 | gokus | had some growing pains, but I now believe I can recreate both servers with relative ease and minimum of headbanging |
| 05:45.11 | onetinsoldier | gokus, i just curious as to what you do that you need/use apache and mail servers for |
| 05:45.40 | onetinsoldier | you got a bitchin web site? hehe |
| 05:45.46 | gokus | setting up my own twiki based domain |
| 05:45.55 | onetinsoldier | to go with bitchin debian? |
| 05:45.55 | gokus | yup.. nylsd.com heh |
| 05:46.01 | onetinsoldier | roger |
| 05:46.05 | gokus | the New York League of Social Drinkers |
| 05:46.24 | onetinsoldier | ok.. i thought maybe it was for lsd(acid) users... ha! |
| 05:46.46 | gokus | supposed to evoke imagery of illicit drug use.. LOL |
| 05:46.56 | onetinsoldier | works for me |
| 05:46.57 | gokus | a punny play on words if you will.... |
| 05:47.00 | gokus | coolness. :) |
| 05:47.24 | Arafangion | gokus: Where does that 'bitchin' slang come from? |
| 05:47.34 | Firefishe | faffi: Sorry I'm talking so long. I'm recompiling the compat-wireless-old modules. I don't even have anything to paste as an error yet. Can't do anything when no wireless extensions exist ;) |
| 05:47.40 | Firefishe | talking=taking |
| 05:47.42 | gokus | California in the 70s I believe as part of the surf culture there... |
| 05:47.46 | onetinsoldier | from Califonia... sufer dudes |
| 05:47.51 | onetinsoldier | yeah |
| 05:47.51 | Arafangion | Interesting. |
| 05:48.33 | gokus | yeah, my new domain should be OVER 9000 ;-) |
| 05:48.35 | onetinsoldier | like totally tubular, bitchin, and knarly dude |
| 05:48.57 | gokus | but that's a whole nuther bailywick.. |
| 05:48.58 | Firefishe | g(nu)arly, but I digress ;) |
| 05:49.02 | onetinsoldier | tripendicular even |
| 05:49.04 | Arafangion | I would've thought that 'bitch' would be extremely offsensive. :) |
| 05:49.20 | onetinsoldier | bitchin means awesome |
| 05:49.27 | Arafangion | Then again, americans seem to be exceptionally offended by the sign for 'holiday' in Auslan. |
| 05:49.30 | gokus | nope, it's synonymous with awesomeness |
| 05:49.52 | Arafangion | http://auslan.org.au/dictionary/words/holiday-2.html |
| 05:49.58 | gokus | checking |
| 05:50.06 | Firefishe | onetinsoldier: bitchin'ly awesome rides away |
| 05:50.07 | Firefishe | *duck* |
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| 05:50.29 | onetinsoldier | Firefishe, omg! he knows the song, from 'The Coven' |
| 05:50.31 | Arafangion | Now, due to the influence of americans over cultures far and wide, that sign's slowly changing to be of holiday-1 instead. |
| 05:50.47 | onetinsoldier | Firefishe, he = you |
| 05:50.48 | Firefishe | The Coven? Never 'eard of it. c. when? |
| 05:50.53 | gokus | that's beyond lulzy! |
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| 05:51.10 | onetinsoldier | Firefishe, that was the name of the musical group |
| 05:51.22 | Firefishe | 60's correct? |
| 05:51.27 | onetinsoldier | yes |
| 05:51.46 | Firefishe | Didn't know the name of the band. It's one of my favorite old songs. |
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| 05:51.52 | frankS2 | anyone know if it is possible to remove the window borders in fluxbox? and how? :o |
| 05:51.55 | gokus | anticipation... antici-pay-yay-shun.. it's makin' me wait.. to install my bitchin new deb server. lol |
| 05:52.09 | Firefishe | Kinda sad, kinda relevant, even today. |
| 05:52.17 | onetinsoldier | Firefishe, yeah |
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| 05:54.40 | Throat | Arafangion, ah, so many car drivers wishing each other nice holidays... |
| 05:55.02 | onetinsoldier | gokus, Carly Simon.. she was pretty hot in her day |
| 05:55.17 | onetinsoldier | at least i thought so |
| 05:55.51 | Throat | ioudas, your maildirectory is not a directory, it says.. |
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| 05:57.18 | tclineks | can anyone tell me is i'm completely offbase wanting to restore hardware raid images with linux software raid? (mdadm) |
| 05:58.20 | Throat | tclineks, you're totally offbase |
| 05:58.22 | Throat | :-P |
| 05:58.42 | tclineks | Throat: can you point me to doc at why |
| 05:58.59 | tclineks | if i know the parity algorithm shouldn't i be able to? |
| 05:59.45 | Throat | was just kidding - but I think the problem is, that the hardware raids can all have their own type of/way to store the wossname... raid meta information |
| 06:00.27 | Throat | and as such it would be most probably incompatible... |
| 06:00.39 | tclineks | i know the parity algorithm and the block size |
| 06:00.39 | ioudas | i got that now |
| 06:00.51 | ioudas | now i get chdir Maildir error when i use thunderbird |
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| 06:01.09 | ioudas | Nov 29 00:59:29 li49-193 courierpop3login: chdir Maildir: Not a directory |
| 06:01.19 | ioudas | same thing |
| 06:01.26 | ioudas | but i uses maildirmake on that |
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| 06:02.24 | Throat | tclineks, I honestly don't know.. the hardware mirroring raid we had just ran without problems - and even if a disk would have died, we'd just have plugged in a new one |
| 06:02.44 | Throat | so I was never tempted to try anything the like |
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| 06:07.44 | Throat | ioudas, well, yes - (re)move the file and create a directory |
| 06:08.05 | ioudas | Nov 29 01:06:58 li49-193 courierpop3login: LOGIN, user=mcushing, ip=[::ffff:74.$ |
| 06:08.06 | ioudas | Nov 29 01:06:59 li49-193 courierpop3login: LOGOUT, user=mcushing, ip=[::ffff:74$ |
| 06:08.07 | ioudas | :-) |
| 06:08.22 | ioudas | that is a lil better |
| 06:08.37 | ioudas | now i gotta make sure they can actually get mail |
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| 06:10.33 | kenboo | Huntington Beach? |
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| 06:16.17 | Doonz | Quick question. Say im running software raid. Would it benefeit me going 64bit or sticking with 32 bit? |
| 06:17.43 | Throat | uh, I wouldn't think it matters |
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| 06:20.45 | Firefishe | faffi: Are you still available? I have some error output |
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| 06:31.49 | bluethundr | installing Lenny. :-) |
| 06:32.44 | Firefishe | bluethundr: Are ye now, eh? On what? |
| 06:33.02 | Firefishe | I'm bungling my way through on my asus g50v-x1 laptop. |
| 06:33.10 | faffi | Firefishe: im here |
| 06:33.30 | Firefishe | faffi: ah |
| 06:34.17 | Firefishe | Well, I recompiled the wireless-compat-old packages, and iwconfig tells me that something is there under wlan0 |
| 06:34.48 | faffi | ok |
| 06:35.02 | faffi | what does it show |
| 06:35.24 | Firefishe | I'll paste the output, one sec, my system is lagging a big |
| 06:35.38 | faffi | pastebin it |
| 06:35.41 | bluethundr | installing it onto a 1.2 GHz IBM thinkpad with 512 MB of ram |
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| 06:36.11 | bluethundr | wireless I think is not going to work, but I'm not too concerned with that |
| 06:36.25 | levander | Have Linksys routers really gotten as bad as the reviews I'm reading? I almost find it hard to believe. |
| 06:36.53 | bluethundr | Linksys routers have gone waaay downhill ironically since Cisco acquired them... |
| 06:37.11 | levander | Wow I'm shocked. People are actually recommending D-Link... |
| 06:37.15 | bluethundr | Dlink is much better for an economical choice |
| 06:37.30 | levander | Which always had a horrible reputation from what I remember (couple of years ago). |
| 06:37.42 | bluethundr | that seems to have changed |
| 06:37.53 | levander | bluethundr: What brand do you like best? |
| 06:37.57 | levander | I'm shopping around. |
| 06:38.07 | bluethundr | I like Dlink though I am lusting after a SonicWall |
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| 06:38.33 | bluethundr | a bit out of the budget at the mo, unfortunately |
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| 06:38.41 | bluethundr | SonicWall that is |
| 06:38.45 | Firefishe | faffi: pastebinning now |
| 06:38.48 | levander | I just looked at them on Newegg. I'm just looking for a little consumer grade one... |
| 06:39.05 | bluethundr | Dlink will do you just fine |
| 06:39.47 | levander | The one everyone seems to be reviewing positively on Newegg is white. I hate white electronics. I always detested how the Apple hardware looked in that plain white. |
| 06:39.48 | Firefishe | faffi: http://rafb.net/p/5W9Xmd80.html |
| 06:40.32 | faffi | Firefishe: mac address is listed with ifconfig |
| 06:41.29 | levander | Damnit, there are some more attractive D-Links, but they don't get as good reviews. |
| 06:41.44 | faffi | levander: you can get a wrt54gl and ddwrt it |
| 06:42.13 | levander | This is for my mom and another one for my sister. I'm just gonna stick them with mainstream stuff. |
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| 06:42.26 | inodef | hi |
| 06:42.28 | inodef | i need help |
| 06:42.38 | inodef | how can i check if my server is having some routing issues or not |
| 06:44.43 | Firefishe | faffi: Doing `sudo iwconfig wlan0 ap <mac address>' doesn't do anything. I don't think it's registering the hardware. Perhaps it needs firmware? |
| 06:45.02 | bullgard4 | Does badblocks do 'cached reads' or 'buffered disk reads'? |
| 06:45.10 | faffi | Firefishe: what exactly are you trying to do |
| 06:45.19 | Firefishe | faffi: Bring up my wireless card. |
| 06:45.31 | faffi | Firefishe: ifconfig wlan0 up |
| 06:46.19 | Firefishe | faffi: no change |
| 06:46.49 | Firefishe | Even wicd in gnome isn't picking up the wireless. |
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| 06:47.04 | faffi | Firefishe: you set an essid and a channel? try to get an ip address |
| 06:47.25 | Firefishe | faffi: k..hold on |
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| 06:49.40 | levander | Nobody's looked at the reviews for Linksys routers lately? I am shocked how poor the reviews are. |
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| 06:51.39 | Firefishe | faffi: It won't lock on to an IP address using `sudo dhclient wlan0' , which is what I usually use. |
| 06:51.40 | levander | wrong chaneel, sorry |
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| 07:04.26 | Firefishe | faffi: Still about? |
| 07:05.52 | jaggz | how do I unholdback all these held packages again? |
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| 07:07.21 | aetheria | echo <packagename> install | dpkg --set-selections |
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| 07:08.17 | stdisease | Trouble: http://pastebin.com/m64bbe39c |
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| 07:08.26 | bluethundr | Lenny installed. :-) |
| 07:08.44 | bluethundr | wow! shades of OS X! me likee! |
| 07:09.00 | stdisease | sid, x86, apt-get install lighttpd |
| 07:09.10 | bluethundr | noice! |
| 07:09.41 | Firefishe | brb..need to reboot |
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| 07:14.21 | kenjy | how can I search for SUID files in all the FS? |
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| 07:18.26 | Agiofws | hello |
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| 07:26.57 | bluethundr | hmmm.. deb Lenny is misbehaving |
| 07:27.06 | bluethundr | I reset the IP from DHCP to static |
| 07:27.26 | bluethundr | and it stopped recognizing the NIC |
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| 07:30.13 | Chinese | i was trying to compile something but the error stops it |
| 07:30.27 | Chinese | would anyone check it for me please,i got screenshop of it. |
| 07:30.50 | Chinese | http://www.my-ehome.net/1.jpg http://www.my-ehome.net/2.jpg thanks |
| 07:31.06 | Chinese | oops |
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| 07:31.31 | Chinese | http://www.my-ehome.net/compile/1.jpg and http://www.my-ehome.net/compile/2.jpg |
| 07:32.27 | xorl` | Chinese, whats your configure line look like? |
| 07:32.47 | Chinese | xorl`, what do you mean ? |
| 07:33.11 | xorl` | well, you're building httpd manually yes? |
| 07:33.18 | xorl` | You typed ./configure ? |
| 07:33.18 | hoxu | why on earth a screenshot for some text... |
| 07:33.29 | xorl` | hoxu, lol my thoughts exactly. |
| 07:34.08 | jaggz | aetheria, I'd want to update them all.. long list.. |
| 07:34.10 | Chinese | when compile httpd-2.2.9,the error occurs |
| 07:34.16 | xorl` | ChanServ, |
| 07:34.18 | xorl` | bah |
| 07:34.24 | jaggz | I can pipe the list through a shell command if they need to be done by hand -- each one. |
| 07:34.27 | xorl` | tab complete killed me. |
| 07:34.36 | bluethundr | I can ping off the network, yet the gui and my web browser claims I am "offline" |
| 07:34.40 | xorl` | Chinese, what steps are you taking to compile it? |
| 07:34.45 | bluethundr | setting it back to DHCP does not solve the issue |
| 07:34.47 | hoxu | Chinese, are you running debian? |
| 07:34.52 | Chinese | xorl`, ./configure --prefix=/usr/local/apache2 --enable-so ,then make, then make install |
| 07:35.03 | xorl` | remove --enable-so |
| 07:35.05 | Chinese | etch 4.0 |
| 07:35.10 | xorl` | that option doesn't exist. |
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| 07:35.29 | benf2004 | i had that happen too, bluethundr |
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| 07:35.52 | bluethundr | so what's the deal? am I hosed? reinstall? :-( |
| 07:35.59 | benf2004 | my debian box insists it doesn't detect a network connection, but it can communicate with hosts within the network and on the internet |
| 07:36.04 | Chinese | xorl`, hmm thanks ,let me try. |
| 07:36.12 | benf2004 | well |
| 07:36.26 | hoxu | bluethundr, what did you do to change from DHCP to static? |
| 07:36.27 | xorl` | bluethundr, know your networking module? |
| 07:36.35 | xorl` | rmmod -f <modname> modprobe modname |
| 07:36.42 | xorl` | restart networking and check it. |
| 07:36.58 | bluethundr | I actually used the gui toy to change to Static |
| 07:37.10 | bluethundr | being lazy.. it's late and I'm in a hurry to get my site back up |
| 07:37.27 | Chinese | xorl`, same |
| 07:37.41 | xorl` | bluethundr, lol |
| 07:37.51 | xorl` | you're running lenny on a production environment? |
| 07:38.04 | bluethundr | kinda. :-) |
| 07:38.06 | xorl` | and expect a gui toy to help you? |
| 07:38.06 | xorl` | lol |
| 07:38.09 | Chinese | xorl`, C compiler can not created executables |
| 07:38.13 | bluethundr | lolz |
| 07:38.19 | faffi | haha |
| 07:38.25 | bluethundr | brain no workee at 2:38 am |
| 07:38.30 | xorl` | Chinese, you don't have all the required binaries installed to build executables. |
| 07:38.37 | xorl` | bluethundr, Mine doesn't either :P |
| 07:38.41 | xorl` | But logic is still there. |
| 07:38.49 | Chinese | xorl`, would you remind me which i need ? |
| 07:38.53 | benf2004 | well, i'm not sure really, i haven't bothered messing with it because everything is still working heh |
| 07:38.58 | hoxu | bluethundr, just use /etc/network/interfaces & ifup/ifdown? |
| 07:39.02 | benf2004 | it just says there's no network connection all the time |
| 07:39.17 | bluethundr | I did issue ifup |
| 07:39.24 | xorl` | Chinese, apt-get install libc6-dev g++ gcc |
| 07:39.39 | Chinese | xorl`, Thank you a lot |
| 07:39.39 | xorl` | run configure again, then make |
| 07:40.14 | bluethundr | think editing the conf files will help my case? |
| 07:40.15 | x3275 | exit |
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| 07:40.49 | hoxu | bluethundr, pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces |
| 07:41.00 | bullgard4 | Can you recommend a hardware test for a newly bought 8 GB USB flash drive beyond badblocks? |
| 07:41.12 | xorl` | pig :D |
| 07:41.31 | xorl` | kid, bonnie++ should be good for you |
| 07:41.54 | Chinese | xorl`, after those all are done,you are still sure that --enable-so is not needed ? |
| 07:42.07 | bluethundr | I would if I could network! :-P |
| 07:42.09 | xorl` | --enable-so doesn't exist, there are newer options in place |
| 07:42.11 | bluethundr | thanks for the offer though |
| 07:42.36 | bluethundr | it looks like my networking config file has no meaningful info that I tried to add from the gui toy |
| 07:42.42 | Chinese | xorl`, which one ? |
| 07:42.53 | xorl` | There are many. |
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| 07:45.11 | Chinese | xorl`, that problem is solved, Thank you very much |
| 07:45.35 | xorl` | well, you can try to run configure with --enable-so again. |
| 07:45.42 | xorl` | Should work now that you can build executables. |
| 07:45.49 | xorl` | just tested it on a dry install. |
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| 07:47.29 | Chinese | okay :D |
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| 07:54.46 | jeff_ | I'm trying to install Debian on a Dell Optiplex 755, but it doesn't seem to recognize the network card. Does anyone have any advice? |
| 07:55.10 | jeff_ | Googling reveals its a known issue, but doesn't seem to produce any answers |
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| 07:55.57 | xorl` | what networking card is it? |
| 07:56.54 | kenjy | how can I search for SUID files in all the FS? |
| 07:57.42 | faffi | kenjy: find / \( -perm -004000 -o -perm -002000 \) -type f -print |
| 07:57.52 | faffi | suid and sgid |
| 07:58.05 | kenjy | faffi: tnks and for hiden files? |
| 07:58.27 | jeff_ | 00:19.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Intel Corporation Unknown device [8086:10bd] (rev 02) |
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| 07:58.55 | xorl` | 82566DM-2 Gigabit |
| 07:58.57 | xorl` | mmm yummy |
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| 07:59.15 | xorl` | jeff_, http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/E1000E.html |
| 07:59.20 | ceil420 | su -c 'lshw -class network' |
| 07:59.30 | ceil420 | (or lspci, i guess <_<) |
| 07:59.41 | faffi | kenjy: i think you can do find / -name \.\* |
| 07:59.53 | xorl` | jeff_, What kernel version does the installer have or if you've arleady installed what kernel version is there? |
| 08:00.23 | jeff_ | It's the latest stable netinstall cd that we tried |
| 08:00.46 | xorl` | What kernel version is on that? |
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| 08:01.26 | kenjy | faffi: a lot of tnks |
| 08:01.31 | muhoo | weird. i'm installing etch onto an ide drive on an amd64 system, but the system won't boot off of it |
| 08:01.47 | hoxu | kenjy, see the EXAMPLES section of "man find" |
| 08:01.51 | muhoo | fdisk says hda1 is a bootable partition. there's an mbr. grub is in place |
| 08:01.51 | jeff_ | xorl: one sec, have to reload the installer |
| 08:01.57 | xorl` | ok |
| 08:02.35 | muhoo | i can chroot into the /target, and it looks just fine. update-grub is happy, there's a kernel where it's supposed to be, but... machine won't boot! |
| 08:03.02 | muhoo | it just refuses to see any ide hd as bootable (i've tried 2 so far) |
| 08:03.21 | muhoo | bios setup says, hard disk is in the boot order, and bios sees the drive |
| 08:03.27 | muhoo | is confused |
| 08:03.40 | xorl` | what happens when it tries to boot |
| 08:03.50 | faffi | muhoo: what error does it give |
| 08:03.52 | muhoo | it skips over hard drives, and goes to net boot |
| 08:04.01 | muhoo | boot order is floppy, cdrom, harddrive, netboot |
| 08:04.14 | muhoo | when booting, it tries all of the above, shrugs, and goes into PXE mode |
| 08:04.47 | muhoo | this is an intel mobo, amd64 |
| 08:04.48 | xorl` | hmmm |
| 08:04.52 | xorl` | That is odd. |
| 08:05.12 | muhoo | yeah, i've never seen this before. it's like it just doesn't see the MBR on the drive or something |
| 08:06.15 | jeff_ | xorl: 2.6.18 |
| 08:06.24 | muhoo | hmm |
| 08:06.40 | muhoo | another problem is, if i re-install, it dies trying to install console-tools and console-common |
| 08:07.05 | xorl` | jeff_, That's the issue. |
| 08:07.10 | muhoo | as part of trying to install initramfs-tools |
| 08:07.13 | xorl` | Your network card isn't supported until 2.6.24 |
| 08:07.18 | xorl` | Grab the unstable version. |
| 08:07.27 | xorl` | (of the netinstall) |
| 08:07.33 | xorl` | Should have 2.6.24 |
| 08:07.36 | jeff_ | Can I install a 'stable' system and just use the 'unstable' parts that I require? |
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| 08:08.11 | xorl` | basically, all you need to do, is install the 2.6.24+ kernel, on a stable system and it'll work without a problem. |
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| 08:08.39 | xorl` | So, grab the unstable netinstall, install the stable version, and upgrade the kernel to the latest, network should work no problemo. |
| 08:09.30 | jeff_ | Hmm. When I try to boot the netinstall cd it has a hissy fit about the cdrom driver, but I can install using PXE so thats not a problem then it leads me to the network card problem. So, if I take the 2.6.24 kernel and slap that in the debian-installer directory, can that work? |
| 08:09.53 | xorl` | should be possible. |
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| 08:10.10 | jeff_ | xorl: Thanks for the info on the kernel, saved me hours of work |
| 08:10.17 | xorl` | No problemo :) |
| 08:10.24 | xorl` | Thanks for the pci bus info. |
| 08:10.30 | muhoo | if i go to F3 console, and chroot into the thing, initramfs-tools is already installed and fine. |
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| 08:10.31 | xorl` | Without it I wouldnt have been able to help lol |
| 08:10.40 | muhoo | i can't tell if this is related to the no-booty problem or not |
| 08:11.14 | muhoo | has the motherboard from hell, it appears |
| 08:11.25 | xorl` | you my friend have a devil box |
| 08:11.26 | xorl` | :) |
| 08:11.32 | muhoo | basically, this thing will boot off of USB, but nothing else |
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| 08:13.07 | muhoo | wait! it is happy now |
| 08:13.34 | muhoo | i chrooted in from ctrl-alt-F3 console. i ran update-grub manually, then grub-install /dev/hda again |
| 08:13.43 | muhoo | removed all usb drives |
| 08:13.53 | muhoo | now it'll boot off of the hda, i have a working amd64 debian system now |
| 08:13.53 | muhoo | yay |
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| 08:16.14 | jeff_ | xorl: Oh it's not mine, it's a friends. He isn't familiar with Debian and is stuck on the mentality that linux still has driver issues. I'm trying to prove contrary |
| 08:16.31 | xorl` | lol |
| 08:16.35 | xorl` | well it doesn't |
| 08:16.37 | xorl` | with the latest kernels |
| 08:17.15 | jeff_ | xorl: Yeah, seems like my problem is just the kernel packaged with the netinstall. Tough luck lol |
| 08:17.49 | jeff_ | xorl: Whats the current kernel in stable? Is it not 2.6.24? |
| 08:17.50 | muhoo | yep. all it took was hardware companies providing specs and/or working drivers. it's a huge difference from 10 years ago |
| 08:18.14 | muhoo | installed debian-eee in an hour, and everything worked. stunning. |
| 08:18.26 | muhoo | ok, off to finish my confiiguration.thankx |
| 08:18.39 | jeff_ | I want to get an EEEPC and put debian on it. nothing would be more awesome |
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| 08:22.45 | xorl` | jeff_, I bought an MSI Wind |
| 08:22.52 | xorl` | over the EeePC |
| 08:22.57 | cast|lir | i had an eee 701 with debian on it |
| 08:24.49 | liable | has two of the little buggers |
| 08:26.25 | jeff_ | xorl: What made you choose that over the EeePC? |
| 08:26.45 | xorl` | 10" Screen, LED backlit, 802.11n |
| 08:26.52 | xorl` | It's not solid state. |
| 08:27.02 | xorl` | (160 gb drive) |
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| 08:35.16 | tommcd | anyone using the Acer Aspire One? You can get it with a real HDD, not the SDD. There is a tutorial on installing Debian on the AAO on the Debian wiki. |
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| 08:39.59 | tommcd | Xorl, any problems installing Debian on the MSI Wind? |
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| 08:41.31 | ddalton | what script would be starting the mpd daemon at start up? |
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| 08:46.45 | xorl` | tommcd, None really, other than the pesky wireless. |
| 08:46.50 | xorl` | i swapped that out for 15 bucks though |
| 08:47.00 | xorl` | Got an Intel Pro in it now. |
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| 08:49.37 | bullgard4 | Is badblock a suitable command to test an 8 GB USB flash drive? |
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| 09:09.17 | tommcd | xorl, how did you swap out the wireless on the MSI Wind? Does it have a slot for a wireless card? |
| 09:10.15 | tommcd | xorl, or did you open it up and replace the internal wireless? |
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| 09:10.39 | applegainer | debian |
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| 09:13.35 | jeff_ | Hey if I install with the testing netinstall cd, how do I set the system as stable, but using the 2.6.24 kernel? |
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| 09:16.33 | x1250 | is there a consistent way to tell (from a script) if iptables is active? (rules not empty) |
| 09:18.30 | xingu | x1250: you could probably look at the usage count on the iptable{,6}_filter module |
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| 09:19.16 | assignme | hey guys any exim users here? |
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| 09:22.42 | cahoot | I think the all are converted to postfix |
| 09:25.06 | x1250 | xingu, column 3 from lsmod | grep iptables_filters changes to 0 when firehol is stopped, and 1 when it starts. I guess this will do, but what does column 3 means? |
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| 09:27.44 | xingu | x1250: module usage count - it increases, vaguely speaking, when a kernel object is owned by the module |
| 09:28.10 | Ovi_1 | does anyone one the reason that an usb stick won't mount automatically in gnome? cd's do. I'm using lenny |
| 09:28.13 | x1250 | xingu, thanks :) |
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| 09:28.54 | Ovi_1 | I did write an entry in fstab and I can simply use mount as a regular user but it was supposed to be done automatically in gnome |
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| 09:30.42 | Ovi_1 | I'm the only one who has this problem?:D |
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| 09:33.29 | scientes | Ovi_1, see if its in nautilus |
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| 09:33.34 | scientes | and then you just click on it |
| 09:33.57 | cahoot | Ovi_1: system-prefs-removable media? |
| 09:34.16 | Ovi_1 | it is. I know I can just click on the drive and it gets mounted but I'm configuring it for someone else and I want to make as easy to use as posible :) |
| 09:34.55 | scientes | im doing a router and i wanter to have two network interfaces {only} do routing, how should i set that up |
| 09:35.11 | scientes | i have a third interface that can allow that comp to access the lan/internet |
| 09:35.39 | scientes | i would only have a select few if any services directly access the internet |
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| 09:36.12 | assignme | how do i search text in files? |
| 09:36.24 | exprim | try grep |
| 09:36.58 | assignme | how? |
| 09:37.01 | scientes | can i install any of the router software directly on debian? |
| 09:37.10 | scientes | like web ui and such |
| 09:37.38 | exprim | assignme: man grep, the easiest sequence looks like this: grep txt file |
| 09:38.42 | assignme | can i do grep "*string i want*" ./ |
| 09:40.31 | cahoot | rgrep |
| 09:40.32 | exprim | spare yourself these '*' |
| 09:40.58 | cahoot | rgrep or grep -r if you want recusion |
| 09:41.05 | cahoot | recursion |
| 09:41.30 | assignme | fgrep admin@email.com ./ would find all files that has my email in it? |
| 09:41.59 | exprim | grep -nri could be the most convenient to you in general, I suppose |
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| 09:42.12 | cahoot | escape the @ ? |
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| 09:43.16 | exprim | use '' |
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| 09:44.45 | assignme | grep -nri 'name@myemail.com' ./ |
| 09:45.17 | assignme | ok cool thanks |
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| 10:50.04 | asciii | hi |
| 10:50.18 | asciii | i am trying to install a package in debian |
| 10:50.20 | asciii | however, |
| 10:50.45 | asciii | i am getting an error saying depends on libc6 (>= 2.7-1); however: |
| 10:50.46 | asciii | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:50.47 | cast|lir | uhuh |
| 10:50.51 | oOarthurOo | easy asciii ... try typing all your thoughts in sentence before you get auto banned |
| 10:50.57 | cast|lir | why does it say winnt :( |
| 10:51.17 | cast|lir | and what is this package and where did you find it |
| 10:51.28 | asciii | the package is wmi-client |
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| 10:51.58 | asciii | i found it at http://packages.debian.org/sid/i386/wmi-client/download |
| 10:52.04 | cast|lir | http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=libc6 could upgrade to lenny |
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| 10:52.29 | asciii | i am using the etch version of debian |
| 10:52.38 | cast|lir | not sure if you could backport it, maybe you could, i'd try that |
| 10:53.31 | asciii | it says i need to upgrade the libc6 package |
| 10:54.25 | cast|lir | yeah, as i understand it thats a pretty fundamental part of your system, that you're not going to get away with upgrading just that one package |
| 10:54.29 | asciii | when i try to upgrade the libc6 package, it says libc6 conflicts with tzdata-etch |
| 10:54.41 | cast|lir | panics |
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| 10:55.49 | cast|lir | is is a backport feasible? |
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| 10:56.28 | asciii | i am not sure |
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| 10:57.21 | Polarina | How would I install the desktop environment manually instead of having the netinst disk do it for me? |
| 10:57.59 | cast|lir | Polarina: if its a new install you could either run tasksel, whichi s what the installer does, or just use aptitude and install xorg, gnome, whatever else you want |
| 10:58.29 | Polarina | Would a aptitude install gnome be a synonym to what the disk does? |
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| 10:59.13 | cast|lir | Polarina: nah, tasksel would be, but i suggest aptitude |
| 10:59.40 | cast|lir | asciii: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Management_Instrumentation#References hmm, there's a java wmi thingy... |
| 10:59.49 | Polarina | Of course I won't get GIMP and such out of the box, but I get the environment like the disk would make it (without the extra applications)? |
| 11:00.22 | Polarina | You know, working out of the box without messing around drivers and such. |
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| 11:06.02 | frankS2 | is it possible to convert from FAT to EXT3 without losing data? |
| 11:07.19 | cast|lir | sure. but the way i mean is different to your way, and involves backups :) |
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| 11:07.50 | frankS2 | damnit |
| 11:07.56 | Polarina | cast|lir: Oh well, I can always reinstall if I screw something up. :) |
| 11:08.00 | frankS2 | its 1tb full of uuuuhm... photos from vacations |
| 11:08.06 | frankS2 | dont have 1tb spare |
| 11:08.16 | valdyn | frankS2: whats the point of changing the fs? |
| 11:08.26 | frankS2 | because... FAT is so friggin bad |
| 11:08.32 | cast|lir | maybe his family photos are hitting the 4gb limit ^_^ |
| 11:08.33 | valdyn | frankS2: so? |
| 11:08.33 | frankS2 | does not support larger files that 4gb |
| 11:08.36 | Octalot | Polarina: the "messing about with drivers" bit is likely to be the ones for Nvidia and ATI 3D cards. Sadly you always get the messing about with those (if you want accelerated 3D). |
| 11:08.38 | frankS2 | cast|lir: yup |
| 11:08.42 | cast|lir | HD-DVD pawns being released and all |
| 11:08.49 | Polarina | frankS2: Even if you change the filesystem, and something goes wrong (power failure) you lose all the data. |
| 11:09.02 | cast|lir | [or did blueray win, i forgot] |
| 11:09.03 | Polarina | Octalot: It's my school laptop, no need for blobs. |
| 11:09.04 | frankS2 | i know that Polarina , good thinking |
| 11:09.09 | frankS2 | cast|lir: bluray won |
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| 11:09.49 | cast|lir | frankS2: so, how much free space do you have? none at all? |
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| 11:10.48 | frankS2 | cast|lir: 200gig on another drive |
| 11:10.51 | Polarina | frankS2: I would also recommend you to get a secondary storage for your photos. You don't want to suffer data loss because of a driver failure. |
| 11:11.41 | assignme | hey guys how do i turn a deamon off? |
| 11:11.45 | cast|lir | frankS2: well, you could progressively shrink and grow the two file systems by 200GB chunks [so about 5 times] |
| 11:11.47 | assignme | i dont wnat it starting up by default |
| 11:12.03 | valdyn | assignme: which daemon? |
| 11:12.08 | assignme | only when i ask it to. its not configure right and i think i dont need it |
| 11:12.20 | cast|lir | frankS2: ext3 growing works very well, not sure about fat shrinking |
| 11:12.28 | assignme | exim specificly but there were past ones i wanted to disabled (squid) |
| 11:12.37 | Polarina | frankS2: cast|lir's method is still prone to power failure. :) |
| 11:12.38 | valdyn | assignme: you need exim |
| 11:12.56 | valdyn | assignme: why dont you remove squid completely? |
| 11:13.13 | assignme | valdyn: why do i need exim? |
| 11:13.19 | valdyn | !why an mta |
| 11:13.19 | dpkg | An MTA should be on most unix(ish) systems to provide a way for various services to deliver asynchronous system or error messages. This includes things like cron and at (to give you the output of jobs) and various daemons (e.g. the init script of mysql). The mta does not have to listen to network ports so spam and security issues are largely irrelevant. Ask me about <nullmailer>. |
| 11:13.56 | frankS2 | I guess ill just buy another 1tb disk |
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| 11:14.19 | assignme | i didnt have exim by default |
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| 11:14.36 | valdyn | assignme: you had exim by default |
| 11:14.44 | valdyn | assignme: exim4 actually |
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| 11:15.34 | assignme | valdyn: i had to apt-get it. It wasnt on my system |
| 11:15.52 | assignme | hmm, this isnt working ok i'll give exim another try |
| 11:15.52 | valdyn | assignme: exim4 is part of the default install |
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| 11:16.14 | valdyn | assignme: only way to not having it is somehow fucking it up or replacing it with an alternative mta |
| 11:16.17 | assignme | valdyn: this is debain etch from a hosting provider |
| 11:16.26 | assignme | specifically my problem is usernames |
| 11:16.50 | assignme | i configured phpbb to use it. That was easy. The email of my admin is forum@mysite.com. now the problem is |
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| 11:17.26 | assignme | in my password file i have admin first, so it sends mail with admin@mysite.com instead of forum@, when i rearrenge them i have forum@ and all is well |
| 11:17.46 | assignme | but i also have another domain on the same system so i'd have forum@wrongdomain.com instead :| |
| 11:18.25 | assignme | how do i get exim to check the user/domain i want and find a config with matching info. I am using google apps as a smarthost |
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| 11:19.14 | jaggz- | How do I know if a modem is a real modem or not? I'm trying to find a voice modem for use with vgetty (I think) for voicemail |
| 11:19.26 | assignme | !nullmailer |
| 11:19.26 | dpkg | somebody said nullmailer was a minimal mta for hosts which just send directly to smart relays and is at http://untroubled.org/nullmailer/, or now a Debian package. |
| 11:19.53 | assignme | valdyn: ??? comments? |
| 11:20.33 | cast|lir | jaggz-: if its a serial modem thats a good indication, also if its sold as voice/data/fax as opposed to data/fax |
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| 11:21.03 | cast|lir | there was a time when all serial modems were real modems, but someone informed me otherwise once |
| 11:21.05 | kraft__ | hello |
| 11:21.29 | kraft__ | is is possible to download a package that has only been uploaded to ftp-master? |
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| 11:21.51 | jaggz- | I have a voice/data/fax modem (pci) but it's supposedly a winmodem |
| 11:21.54 | kraft__ | i.e not yet accepted |
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| 11:25.30 | edmont | hi |
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| 11:26.20 | edmont | my laptop hangs at statup with the message "setting the system clock". Then i press Ctrl+Alt+Del and it performs some operations and gives a gdm error. I am only able to start gdm at this point by mounting / and /home as rw. I think this happens since i modified /etc/init.d/mountdevsubfs.sh, but i am pretty sure i restored it to original and the problem still occurs. Any idea? |
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| 11:29.18 | valdyn | edmont: "pretty sure" = you dont know, restore the original |
| 11:30.14 | edmont | valdyn: i did "dpkg-reconfigure initscripts" |
| 11:30.39 | edmont | anda also had renamed original file to a backup before the modifications |
| 11:32.26 | edmont | what happens if i rename /etc/rcS.d/S08hwclockfirst.sh and /etc/rcS.d/S11hwclock.sh ? |
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| 11:33.58 | mhymn_ | you'll break another part of your system as well |
| 11:34.08 | mhymn_ | go on! |
| 11:34.53 | edmont | :) |
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| 11:36.50 | edmont | mhymn_: do you know any system log or somewhere where i can find what the specific problem is? |
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| 11:37.24 | mhymn_ | i have no clue |
| 11:37.36 | edmont | ok |
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| 11:41.59 | Daveyboy | hey guys, just real quick question, i am, running debian on my nas (NSLU2) and i have had bit of prob setting my media drive to mount on boot, basically im crap at linux (but learning) and when i edited my fstab, it went kaput... anyone just give me a quick hand if i pastebin my fstab and say what hdd needs to be mounted? |
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| 11:59.27 | asciii | hrm..i installed apache2 and php5 in debian |
| 11:59.58 | asciii | when i browse to a php page, it is trying to download the .php file rather than showing it.. |
| 12:00.17 | asciii | how to make it so that it shows in the browser? |
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| 12:01.36 | hoxu | asciii, I'm fairly confident it should work out of box unless you messed with the config |
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| 12:01.51 | hoxu | asciii, did you run any commands after installing the packages? |
| 12:02.20 | asciii | its the default conf |
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| 12:02.27 | asciii | i did not edit anything |
| 12:02.43 | hoxu | asciii, do you have /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.conf? |
| 12:03.00 | cast|lir | how does one rebuild initrd? |
| 12:03.11 | asciii | nope..its not there |
| 12:03.29 | hoxu | asciii, did you try "a2enmod php5"? |
| 12:03.52 | asciii | Module php5 installed; run /etc/init.d/apache2 force-reload to enable. |
| 12:04.09 | xjkx | does lenny come with support to mount fat32 partitions ? |
| 12:04.10 | hoxu | asciii, yup. Restart apache and then it should be properly installed |
| 12:04.14 | asciii | it is located at /etc/apache2/mods-available/php5.conf |
| 12:04.30 | hoxu | asciii, yes; the .conf and .load and symlinked to mods-enabled/ |
| 12:04.47 | hoxu | asciii, apache2.conf includes mods-enabled/*.conf |
| 12:04.50 | asciii | i restarted apache.. |
| 12:04.54 | asciii | its still the same |
| 12:05.05 | hoxu | asciii, hrem, do you have the symlink now? |
| 12:05.31 | hoxu | xjkx, vfat? Hasn't it been supported for aeons now? |
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| 12:06.03 | asciii | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 27 2008-11-29 01:04 php5.conf -> ../mods-available/php5.conf |
| 12:06.03 | asciii | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 27 2008-11-29 01:04 php5.load -> ../mods-available/php5.load |
| 12:06.53 | hoxu | asciii, try invoke-rc.d apache2 stop; invoke-rc.d apache2 start |
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| 12:07.46 | asciii | hrm..after that command..it works |
| 12:07.51 | asciii | wonder why.. |
| 12:08.04 | hoxu | asciii, how did you restart apache2? |
| 12:08.43 | asciii | ./etc/init.d/apache2 restart |
| 12:09.01 | hoxu | doesn't always work in my experience, hence separate stop and start ;) |
| 12:09.32 | asciii | ok..thx :) |
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| 12:16.17 | cast|lir | hey all, after an upgrade of my lenny inst, my encrypted root install now just boots and then reports not being able to find /dev/system/root, which is the encrypted lvm lv with my debian install on it. any ideas what to do now? i've tried rebuilding the initrd to no success |
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| 12:48.33 | Pupeno | How do I apply all patches of a package but without building it, so that I can create another patch? |
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| 12:48.59 | liable | is it a quilt patch set? |
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| 12:49.19 | Pupeno | liable: not sure, the list is defined on patches/series |
| 12:49.23 | liable | debian/rules patch ? |
| 12:49.39 | Pupeno | tries that. |
| 12:49.54 | limpio | hifi, what linu-image does an Intel Atom uses? 686? |
| 12:49.56 | Pupeno | liable: thanks. |
| 12:50.00 | liable | yw |
| 12:50.10 | format_c | What das the "A" mean when I aptitude search and get an "i A" for a result? |
| 12:50.22 | liable | limpio: yep |
| 12:50.34 | limpio | liable, thank you! |
| 12:50.39 | liable | np |
| 12:51.22 | liable | format_c: automatically installed |
| 12:51.38 | format_c | thank you |
| 12:51.40 | liable | ie a depends of something else |
| 12:51.44 | liable | yw |
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| 13:09.33 | voicu | Hi, is there a simple image that I can copy to a flash drive to install debian with it? I tried the instructions in the installation manual but it says no modules are found and then that no network cards are available |
| 13:09.49 | voicu | which is also stupid IMHO to stop the installation because of that |
| 13:10.24 | epsilon | which hardware? |
| 13:10.40 | valdyn | voicu: pretty useless to continue an installation when theres no drivers for any hardware |
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| 13:11.40 | voicu | well it said that the module problem is probably because the kernel i put on the flash is different than the one in the .iso i put alongside to install from |
| 13:12.23 | Daveyboy | guys, i am running debian off usbstcik on my slug and read that i need to edit the fstab to stop it beetin up the flash disk... need to add "noatime,commit=120," to fstab, can someone tell me where ...http://www.pastebin.ca/1270159 |
| 13:12.26 | voicu | Then I copied the kernel in the .iso on the flash and the installer was worse |
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| 13:12.57 | voicu | Anyway, is there a standalone image for USB flash drives? |
| 13:13.12 | Polarina | Don't you have a CD burner? |
| 13:13.19 | voicu | i.e. that also installs the system not just loads another .iso |
| 13:13.40 | voicu | polarina: I have a CD burner, I don't have a CD on the computer I'm trying to install the thing |
| 13:13.54 | Polarina | Don't you have a blank CD? |
| 13:13.57 | voicu | ... |
| 13:14.01 | xoz | Laney: voicu |
| 13:14.47 | voicu | hm? |
| 13:15.27 | xoz | voicu: what do you mean worse? |
| 13:15.41 | xoz | voicu: of course, image should match with module version. |
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| 13:16.02 | voicu | xoz: I mean the screen was garbled, the menu was barely working and it stopped at the part where it tries to find the .iso |
| 13:16.50 | xoz | what flash version? kernel? |
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| 13:17.16 | voicu | xoz: as I understand this, the image that I write on the flash drive is not updated very often and doesn't have matching kernel versions with a certain kernel of a release |
| 13:17.44 | voicu | xoz: how do I find the version? |
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| 13:18.13 | xoz | voicu: can you provide the link where you get the falsh installer? |
| 13:18.45 | voicu | xoz: http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/main/installer-i386/current/images/hd-media/ |
| 13:18.53 | voicu | xoz: if you go there you can see a 16MB archive |
| 13:18.58 | voicu | xoz: that's the one |
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| 13:20.19 | d-b | hi ah could some people start up a tracker for debian lenny --> its taking ages to just ge the first cd. |
| 13:20.26 | d-b | i'm uploading at half my download speed |
| 13:20.55 | d-b | (max upload --> mediocre / slow download speeds) |
| 13:21.16 | humbolt | when you buy a computer it usually says something like "supports up to 2gb of ram". I heard that is a chipset limit. So what happens if you want to stick two 2gb ram chips in a "supports only 2gb" machine? |
| 13:21.33 | humbolt | what happens on a system and what on a OS level? |
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| 13:21.52 | voicu | my guess is that it will only use 2GB of ram |
| 13:22.12 | d-b | humbolt: mmm i thought it was a motherboard / chipset thing. might only use 2gb of ram as pre the documentation. |
| 13:22.32 | valdyn | theres still computers sold that "support up to 2gb of ram" ? |
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| 13:22.58 | humbolt | valdyn: no idea, but I still have one of these. |
| 13:23.05 | valdyn | humbolt: i see |
| 13:23.11 | valdyn | humbolt: this is a chipset limit |
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| 13:23.32 | humbolt | valdyn: so, no way I can use 4bg? |
| 13:23.35 | humbolt | gb |
| 13:23.37 | voicu | Has anyone installed debian using a flash drive? If yes, could you please tell me how? |
| 13:23.38 | valdyn | usual wire limit nowadays is 64Gb |
| 13:23.46 | Neaai | d-b: tracker as in torrent tracker? I believe there's already a way to use torrent for the .iso files. |
| 13:23.57 | valdyn | humbolt: right |
| 13:24.55 | epsilon | voicu: which hardware``? |
| 13:24.59 | epsilon | netbook? |
| 13:25.00 | valdyn | voicu: network install is easier, thats what i did after failing to boot flash once |
| 13:25.12 | humbolt | valdyn: I heard sometimes the limit especially with laptops only refers to the max. purchase configuration, as there were no 2gb chips available back then ... |
| 13:25.24 | valdyn | humbolt: sure thats possible |
| 13:25.32 | valdyn | humbolt: i can hardly tell without knowing the wire specs |
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| 13:25.43 | humbolt | how can I find out, how much is really supported by hardware? |
| 13:25.49 | humbolt | which chipset is concerned? |
| 13:25.53 | voicu | epsilon: it's a magway netbook, it has pretty standard components |
| 13:25.54 | valdyn | humbolt: once upon a time mainboard were wired for only up to 512 mb |
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| 13:26.18 | humbolt | valdyn: the thing is not that old |
| 13:26.21 | d-b | Neaai: ?.... as in fire up a torrent client and start uploading if you have it |
| 13:26.29 | humbolt | valdyn: I have 1.5gb in there right now |
| 13:26.31 | voicu | valdyn: yeah, I'll probably resort to that but I'd like the flash thing better since it doesn't require another computer or a network connection |
| 13:26.32 | valdyn | humbolt: im sure vendors document their chipsets |
| 13:26.37 | xoz | voicu: http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/ch04s03.html |
| 13:27.15 | humbolt | valdyn: but which one is it? |
| 13:27.17 | Neaai | d-b: ah I see. |
| 13:27.50 | humbolt | host bridge, pci bridge ... |
| 13:28.37 | voicu | xoz: those are the instructions I followed. The first problem is that it creates a partition of only 256MB but I resized it. Then I get the error with the kernel versions when I put the testing release of debian |
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| 13:30.33 | valdyn | voicu: why would you resize the partition? |
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| 13:31.16 | voicu | valdyn: because the image provided on the site is only 256MB in size |
| 13:31.29 | voicu | valdyn: I need to put a 700MB .iso file alongside the kernel |
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| 13:33.22 | humbolt | ok, intel also says 2gb only |
| 13:33.23 | humbolt | shit |
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| 13:33.50 | rhineheart_m | hello.. how to transfer file from one server to another in a LAN? |
| 13:34.01 | d-b | sftp. |
| 13:34.11 | d-b | or nfs or samba or ftp rhineheart_m i recommend sftp tho. |
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| 13:35.08 | d-b | !sftp |
| 13:35.08 | rhineheart_m | to transfer file/send file in CLI to another box in the LAN |
| 13:35.08 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, sftp is a program that provides ftp-like functionality over an ssh2 tunnel. Linux clients are in the packages openssh-client, filezilla, konqueror, gftp, the server is in the package openssh-server. For windows clients, see http://winscp.net/ or http://filezilla.sf.net/, or ask me about <scp><sshfs> |
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| 13:35.30 | FreakGuard | ov 29 13:03:20 evilhost ntpd[1404]: adjusting local clock by 5509.402009s |
| 13:35.30 | FreakGuard | Nov 29 13:03:20 evilhost ntpd[1404]: adjtime failed: Invalid argument |
| 13:35.32 | FreakGuard | öhm |
| 13:35.46 | d-b | !pastebin |
| 13:35.47 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! |
| 13:36.23 | FreakGuard | d-b, that one was for me? |
| 13:36.39 | d-b | yeah. |
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| 13:36.55 | d-b | what's the problem btw -> can't you set your hwclock ? |
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| 13:37.30 | d-b | what happens if you do a hwclock --show |
| 13:37.43 | Polarina | Is there a lenny netinst CD around? Or just etch? |
| 13:37.56 | Polarina | Official, of course. |
| 13:38.07 | d-b | Polarina: there is a rc1 netinstall of lenny. |
| 13:38.42 | Polarina | d-b: Which basically installs the program versions in the lenny repository? |
| 13:38.52 | d-b | Polarina: i believe so. |
| 13:39.52 | FreakGuard | d-b, there is none |
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| 13:42.07 | d-b | FreakGuard: what? |
| 13:42.18 | rhineheart_m | I just can't remember it.. but I was able to send file before in ssh.. can anybody tell me ? |
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| 13:42.37 | FreakGuard | d-b, it's an ALIX. small box, i586. the main reason why there's debian on that thing |
| 13:43.04 | rhineheart_m | d-b, any idea using ssh to send file? |
| 13:43.15 | d-b | oh really ? so ... are you saying it has no hardware clock....(i find that hard to believe) |
| 13:43.46 | d-b | yes rhineheart_m /msg dpkg scp |
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| 13:44.09 | Daveyboy | guys, some1 just look at my fstab and tell me if the options are correct format for if your running from usb disk... not sure if i have edited it right...http://www.pastebin.ca/1270175 |
| 13:44.22 | FreakGuard | d-b, http://www.pcengines.ch/alix2d2.htm |
| 13:46.19 | d-b | via nice. does it have their hardware encryption thing ? |
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| 13:46.24 | d-b | (via padlock) |
| 13:46.57 | voicu | huh, it works now. if anyone is interested I needed to put the netinstall .iso not just any .iso |
| 13:47.28 | FreakGuard | d-b, there is a geode encryption (aes-128) that can be used with luks |
| 13:48.12 | d-b | geode has aes support / hardware acceleration ? |
| 13:48.28 | FreakGuard | assume so |
| 13:48.51 | FreakGuard | crypto_blkcipher 14724 4 cbc,dm_crypt,geode_aes |
| 13:49.19 | FreakGuard | I blacklisted the aes_i586 :) |
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| 13:53.30 | publunch | I've got an email problem. |
| 13:53.37 | publunch | pjb@bigbox:~$ ps -A | grep fetch |
| 13:53.37 | publunch | pjb@bigbox:~$ fetchmail -vv |
| 13:53.37 | publunch | fetchmail: can't accept options while a background fetchmail is running. |
| 13:54.03 | publunch | If fetchmail was running, surely ps -A would show it? |
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| 13:54.38 | publunch | Any ideas anybody? |
| 13:54.51 | d-b | ps -ef|grep fetchmail |
| 13:55.15 | publunch | Thanks, d-b. |
| 13:55.26 | publunch | I'm sure ps -A used to work. |
| 13:55.38 | publunch | Until this morning, or maybe yesterday morning. |
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| 14:02.51 | rhineheart_m | is my local file is rt.zip how would I transfer it to root directory using scp? my remote server is 192.168.1.99 |
| 14:02.56 | rhineheart_m | *if |
| 14:03.37 | pkcahier | /dev/sda3 619G 521G 67G 89% /home => What can cause that discrepency(67+521=588<619) other than open files that were removed(but remain linked) |
| 14:04.04 | hoxu | rhineheart_m, man scp; syntax is [[user@]host2:]file2 |
| 14:04.09 | simonrvn | 5% reserved for root |
| 14:04.16 | publunch | Well, I've gone back to the previous kernel, and so far fetchmail appears to be working correctly. I think the latest kernel disagrees with the way I run fetchmail, and I don't think I'm doing anything unusual. |
| 14:04.30 | hoxu | rhineheart_m, file2 can also be a directory |
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| 14:18.06 | rhineheart_m | hoxu, can't understand the documentation of scp.. |
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| 14:18.49 | rhineheart_m | hoxu, is this the right one: scp -p file2transfer root@192.168.1.99 |
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| 14:19.27 | hoxu | rhineheart_m, looks fine to me, but that'll use root's home, if you need something else add ":/path" |
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| 14:19.51 | rhineheart_m | hoxu, I just tried it but it won't :( |
| 14:20.42 | rhineheart_m | hoxu, I tried this one too but it won't: scp -p file2transfer root@192.168.1.99:/transfer |
| 14:21.47 | rhineheart_m | hoxu, I got it.. :) tnx |
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| 14:25.29 | dustybin | how can one specify a client to use a specific PXE netboot image? I imagine its done via MAC address, but where would one specify? |
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| 14:26.20 | dustybin | i think this is the solution: hardware ethernet xa:xa:xa:xa:xa:xa ; |
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| 14:26.43 | xjkx | does lenny come with support to mount fat32 partitions ? |
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| 14:28.24 | petemc | xjkx: yes |
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| 14:28.41 | ElDiabolo | Hi. What is the expected workflow for open source bug reporting? I did report http://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=40374 to MySQL, because its a rather special MySQL thing. However I am not willing to go to a non-Debian MySQL version to reproduce it. Is this a bug to report to debian? |
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| 14:42.03 | stew | ElDiabolo: if the bug exists in debian, it is appropriate to report the bug to debian's bts. If you've forwarded the bug to the upstream bug tracker already, note that in the bug report and tag the bug as being forwarded: http://www.debian.org/Bugs/server-control#tag |
| 14:42.14 | frankS2 | is it possible to use MS-CHAP-V2 in linux/debian? |
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| 14:45.19 | pim | Hello, I'm having trouble with zcat. I'm denied acces to my USB disk, what could be the problem? |
| 14:45.30 | ElDiabolo | stew: Thx. |
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| 14:46.13 | spockboy | pim: not sure what zcat has to do with being denied access to your USB disk. got an error message ? |
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| 14:46.49 | pim | Not really: pim@pim-desktop:/media$ sudo zcat /home/pim/Bureaublad/boot.img.gz > /dev/sdf1 |
| 14:46.49 | pim | bash: /dev/sdf1: Toegang geweigerd |
| 14:46.59 | pim | Toegang geweigerd = Acces denied |
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| 14:48.25 | spockboy | cool, can you write to block devices like that? |
| 14:49.24 | pim | No idea, I just copied that line from an internet tutorial: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianAcerOne |
| 14:49.48 | pim | actually it says to write to /dev/sdf , but that won't work either |
| 14:49.57 | Polarina | Where do I download the etch netinst CD from a mirror? |
| 14:50.00 | cahoot | pim: runnig from a debian system? |
| 14:50.10 | pim | cahoot, no Ubuntu 8.10 |
| 14:50.28 | ElDiabolo | stew: Actually the bug is not really forwarded. I have reported it to MySQL. They did tell me to try to reproduce it in their head release, which I am not willing to install. |
| 14:50.36 | tuxcrafter | could somebody help me out to explain how i can figure out if the following patch is included in the packages of debian sid: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16519 |
| 14:50.47 | pim | I tried: sudo fdisk -l and it reported the device as /dev/sdf formatted as FAT16 |
| 14:51.19 | Polarina | Does lenny have openoffice 3.0? |
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| 14:51.57 | spockboy | pim: hrmm. Not sure then, sorry. Though it looks like you're trying to write to the partition. Maybe you're supposed to write to /dev/sdf ? |
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| 14:52.53 | tuxcrafter | pim: hi dutch fellow: try$ su - |
| 14:52.57 | tuxcrafter | then the zcat command |
| 14:53.21 | spockboy | tuxcrafter: he's using sudo... |
| 14:53.41 | tuxcrafter | spockboy: yes and i am advicing him to check some thigns while using $ su - |
| 14:54.11 | tuxcrafter | i cant see his sudo setup so.... |
| 14:54.34 | tuxcrafter | when using the command $ su - |
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| 14:54.41 | tuxcrafter | i can eliminate permission issues |
| 14:55.00 | tuxcrafter | somebody here willing to take a look at my question>? |
| 14:55.33 | pim | tuxcrafter I made it sudo su, I am superuser now |
| 14:55.39 | cahoot | tuxcrafter: I'd say you'd try look into the changelog |
| 14:55.45 | stew | Polarina: nope |
| 14:55.53 | spockboy | pim: did you try writing to /dev/sdf instead of /dev/sdf1 ? |
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| 14:56.13 | Polarina | stew: But is it in unstable? |
| 14:56.14 | pim | spockboy I tried that, it said permission denied |
| 14:56.18 | stew | Polarina: nope |
| 14:56.23 | Polarina | o.O |
| 14:56.28 | Polarina | Ok, thank you. |
| 14:56.37 | stew | Polarina: it will be uploaded to unstable after lenny is released |
| 14:56.48 | tuxcrafter | pim: ok now try the zcat command agian |
| 14:56.48 | Polarina | Ok, cool. |
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| 14:57.04 | tuxcrafter | pim: be really sure what youyr are doing you can delete you data this way |
| 14:57.21 | tuxcrafter | /youyr/know/ |
| 14:57.32 | ElDiabolo | stew: Ah, found a reasonable solution. I Can temporarily move to the sid mysql server. Thats a 10 minute thingy, while installing a second mysql instance from source is rather a 2 hour thingy. |
| 14:57.57 | stew | ElDiabolo: you are running etch? |
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| 14:59.36 | pim | tuxcrafter thanks, it seems to have worked |
| 15:00.41 | tuxcrafter | pim: your welcome |
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| 15:06.56 | wald0 | !reiser4 |
| 15:06.56 | dpkg | somebody said reiser4 was If you want Reiser4, why are you using debian? |
| 15:07.13 | wald0 | what is wrong with reiser4 ? |
| 15:07.48 | stew | wald0: its notoriously buggy |
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| 15:10.06 | stew | wald0: http://kernelnewbies.org/WhyReiser4IsNotIn |
| 15:10.38 | Polarina | How do I use 'cdrecord' to burn a .iso file? |
| 15:10.48 | stew | Polarina: "wodim foo.iso" |
| 15:11.08 | Polarina | Thank you. |
| 15:11.16 | stew | Polarina: wodim is this fork of cdrecord in debian |
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| 15:11.20 | stew | ^this^the |
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| 15:12.14 | Polarina | cdrecord = wobim, right? |
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| 15:14.42 | Polarina | s/b/d/ |
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| 15:21.03 | wald0 | stew: good reading, do you know the progress state of reiser4 actually ? |
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| 15:27.34 | stew | wald0: i know little about it. Since the main developer is no longer working on it, and the company doing the development: namesys.com are no longer active, i'd not be suprised if development is being seriously hindered |
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| 15:28.29 | stew | and novell no longer uses reiserfs |
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| 15:30.57 | wald0 | stew: if im not wrong, somebody called edward is fully working on it right now |
| 15:31.13 | stew | wald0: yes |
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| 15:33.00 | ElDiabolo | stew: No, running lenny. |
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| 15:33.38 | stew | ElDiabolo: ok, just wanted to make sure you weren't about to attempt installing mysql from sid onto etch |
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| 15:35.03 | ElDiabolo | stew: Why would that be dangerous? Because MySQL does major changes in minor versions or is there sth else? |
| 15:35.04 | pim | Hey, I've installed according to this tutorial: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianAcerOne but now I don't have any graphics |
| 15:35.35 | hoxu | ElDiabolo, you should never install stuff from unstable in stable, it'll hose up your system thanks to dependencies in most cases |
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| 15:36.05 | ElDiabolo | hoxu: Ah, thx |
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| 15:37.15 | WeeD_ | who repository have ltspfs, debian etch |
| 15:37.34 | stew | ElDiabolo: becuase it would require you upgrading many core libraries to the unstable versions, and it would not be easy to go back to etch afterward |
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| 15:38.43 | mhymn_ | judd: versions ltspfd |
| 15:38.44 | judd | mhymn_: ltspfd -- |
| 15:38.51 | mhymn_ | judd: versions ltspfs |
| 15:38.52 | judd | mhymn_: ltspfs -- lenny: 0.5.3-3 sid: 0.5.3-3 experimental: 0.5.6-1 |
| 15:38.59 | mhymn_ | WeeD_: ^^^ |
| 15:39.44 | tuxcrafter | how can i scrol up in a screen sesssion? |
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| 15:39.58 | tuxcrafter | i need to see the beginning of a log that was running in screen |
| 15:40.06 | mhymn_ | Shift+PageUP ? |
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| 15:40.22 | tuxcrafter | mhymn_: no does nothing, already tired |
| 15:40.24 | tuxcrafter | tried |
| 15:40.30 | hoxu | tuxcrafter, one way is to enter the copy-paste mode, C-a [ |
| 15:40.40 | WeeD_ | mhymn_ |
| 15:40.54 | WeeD_ | repository ? |
| 15:40.57 | tuxcrafter | hoxu: where does it paste to? |
| 15:41.30 | hoxu | tuxcrafter, test it out. It uses an internal clipboard |
| 15:41.51 | hoxu | WeeD_, it's in debian, starting with current testing, lenny |
| 15:42.54 | WeeD_ | ok, but what address i get ltspfs lenny, into sources.list |
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| 15:43.02 | WeeD_ | hoxu |
| 15:43.42 | hoxu | WeeD_, don't do this highlight thing unless you have your question typed out, it's annoying as hell |
| 15:44.14 | WeeD_ | ok |
| 15:44.43 | tuxcrafter | hoxu: can you provide more info C-a [ does something but nothing usefull that i know to use |
| 15:45.04 | hoxu | tuxcrafter, use the arrow keys to move the selection up to see buffer? |
| 15:45.42 | hoxu | WeeD_, check out backports if it's in there, otherwise you need to backport it yourself or upgrade to lenny |
| 15:45.47 | hoxu | !tell WeeD_ about bpo |
| 15:46.51 | mhymn_ | hoxu: if it's in bpo the judd would mention it |
| 15:46.54 | tuxcrafter | hoxu: ok i can move the arrow key to select all the text but what then i can copy the text |
| 15:46.58 | WeeD_ | hoxu , i dont needed to upgrade to lenny, just need package ltspfs |
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| 15:48.00 | hoxu | tuxcrafter, you wanted to see the screen buffer that has scrolled past? Enter copy-paste mode and scroll up? |
| 15:48.16 | hoxu | mhymn_, ok, thanks for the info |
| 15:48.24 | mhymn_ | np |
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| 15:51.18 | tuxcrafter | hoxu: how do i cat stuff from my screen buffer into my pastebuffer or text file - |
| 15:51.28 | tuxcrafter | /cat/get/ |
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| 15:53.45 | hoxu | tuxcrafter, use the copy & paste binds in ^C-? |
| 15:53.57 | quentusrex | I need help with something.... My package needs the user to give it the mysql root password. But I don't know how to make my package ask for that during install. Can someone help? |
| 15:53.58 | hoxu | tuxcrafter, ^C-[ and ^C-] |
| 15:55.32 | hoxu | quentusrex, I think debian has a debian-sys-maint account on mysql that you could use; no clue about the details - but you don't need to ask for the mysql password, I think |
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| 15:55.57 | quentusrex | thanks hoxu |
| 15:56.16 | hoxu | quentusrex, /etc/mysql/debian.cnf |
| 15:59.25 | jpinx | I mounted a USB stick by hand with -o rw and edited a document in it with gedit. I couldn't save it even after chmod the mounted drive to 777. Any ideas anyone? |
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| 16:01.42 | DanC82 | jpinx: did you use chmod with the recursive option? |
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| 16:02.00 | ringo999 | how do i force quit a process? pkill ? |
| 16:02.07 | tuxcrafter | hoxu: sorry i cant make heads of tails out ot your help |
| 16:02.28 | hoxu | ringo999, signal 9, eg. -9 for pkill, kill, or whatever you are using |
| 16:02.33 | tuxcrafter | is there a way to find offical docu for copy paste of screen sessions |
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| 16:02.57 | jpinx | DanC82: I'll try that - thanks |
| 16:03.04 | hoxu | tuxcrafter, man screen and search for "copy" |
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| 16:04.20 | jpinx | DanC82: I thought it's not possible to change perms on a vfat partition's files |
| 16:05.20 | jpinx | it's stalled on chmod 777 -R <vfat.partition> |
| 16:05.23 | cahoot | jpinx: try /msg dpkg vfatrw |
| 16:05.51 | voicu | Hi, I have an intel 945 card but X doesn't work when I select the i810 driver. I get the X error "no devices found" |
| 16:05.53 | onetinsoldier | how do i get icewm-gnome to start with the startx command? what lines should be in my .xsession file? i do not have gdm installed. |
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| 16:06.06 | cahoot | voicu: use intel? |
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| 16:06.27 | DanC82 | jpinx: cant remember off the top of my head |
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| 16:06.58 | frog | hi, futex_wait (hrtimer_wakeup) causes many wakeups. how can i optimize it`? |
| 16:07.03 | joltcan | jpinx: There are no permissions on vfat. So the permissions you see are set with umask and uid when you mount it |
| 16:07.07 | jpinx | cahoot: interesting - when the system is behaving the USB stick auto-mounts with full rw premissions no problem |
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| 16:07.15 | voicu | cahoot: what do you mean? |
| 16:07.26 | cahoot | voicu: use driver intel |
| 16:07.35 | jpinx | joltcan: cool -- understood now -- thanks |
| 16:08.30 | voicu | cahoot: isn't i810 the intel driver? |
| 16:09.55 | cahoot | voicu: I suppose that depends on your xorg version |
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| 16:13.45 | voicu | cahoot: can you suggest a solution? or a way to make the vesa driver display 1024x600 |
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| 16:14.21 | cahoot | voicu: driver intel didn't help then? |
| 16:15.28 | voicu | cahoot: do you mean the package name or the module name? i have all the video drivers installed |
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| 16:15.46 | voicu | xorg.conf has I810 in the device section |
| 16:16.35 | cahoot | voicu: actually - a study of /var/log/Xorg.0.log might give some insight |
| 16:17.06 | voicu | shall i paste it somewhere\/ |
| 16:17.25 | cahoot | you might read it - look for EE |
| 16:17.42 | voicu | i did |
| 16:18.00 | voicu | all i got was "no devices found" and then "no screens found" |
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| 16:18.44 | onetinsoldier | how do i get icewm-gnome to start with the startx command? what lines should be in my .xsession file? i do not have gdm installed. |
| 16:18.45 | cahoot | voicu: so why not try change form i810 to intel just for testing? |
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| 16:19.38 | cahoot | exec icewm-gnome? |
| 16:19.45 | voicu | ok, just a second |
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| 16:21.26 | Piper69 | good morning |
| 16:21.36 | onetinsoldier | cahoot, let me try with just that line. i have been following that line with 'exec gnome-session' because i thought that was needed from what i have been reading in some docs |
| 16:22.02 | onetinsoldier | but then that gets me the 'metacity' wm |
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| 16:22.24 | cahoot | onetinsoldier: you should know I only guess |
| 16:22.35 | onetinsoldier | cahoot, hehe |
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| 16:24.19 | Piper69 | I was running 2.6.16 and i compiled 2.6.25.19. when i was running 2.6.17 my wireless card was working just fine, now after i am running 2.6.25.19 if is not working. i can't do lspci. what could 've went wrong |
| 16:25.20 | onetinsoldier | Piper69, you sure you have /proc filesystem support in the newer kernel? |
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| 16:25.35 | voicu | cahoot: still on? |
| 16:25.47 | Piper69 | onetinsoldier: hmmm, not sure, how could i be |
| 16:26.04 | voicu | cahoot: using 'intel' driver yielded different errors |
| 16:26.14 | onetinsoldier | Piper69, hang on. let me see if can i can answer that |
| 16:26.38 | Piper69 | onetinsoldier: will appreciate it if you show me how to look it as well |
| 16:27.52 | stoned | Good morning |
| 16:28.13 | onetinsoldier | Piper69, well, it seesm i can't grep it out of the .config file. i may have to actually look around in make menuconfig |
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| 16:28.35 | voicu | cahoot: http://rafb.net/p/TL9k0P89.html |
| 16:28.54 | voicu | IMHO those errors mean intel is not the required driver |
| 16:28.58 | tuxcrafter | hoxu: hihi i read some parts of the man screen agian that seems relevant, i run sudo screen so i am su and i need the text as normal user |
| 16:29.06 | tuxcrafter | so i want to output the buffer to a file |
| 16:29.11 | tuxcrafter | that i can chmod and open |
| 16:29.20 | tuxcrafter | i got the message |
| 16:29.39 | onetinsoldier | Piper69, first, make sure it's in your fstab file. you should have a line in there like so... proc /proc proc defaults |
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| 16:30.10 | tuxcrafter | hoxu: i got this message: Copied 13969 characters into buffer |
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| 16:30.21 | tuxcrafter | so how can i get that buffer to a text file |
| 16:30.21 | khader | good morning |
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| 16:30.28 | Piper69 | onetinsoldier: but when i did make menuconfig i choose Load an Alternate Configuration File and choose .config . that should 've take care of that NO! |
| 16:30.28 | tuxcrafter | i tried C-a > |
| 16:30.35 | tuxcrafter | but it gives garbage in the file |
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| 16:31.16 | khader | exit |
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| 16:31.54 | onetinsoldier | Piper69, well, i never use that option for make menuconfig. i can't recall what it does exactly. does it prompt you for a .config file to load? |
| 16:32.16 | Piper69 | onetinsoldier: yes |
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| 16:32.58 | onetinsoldier | Piper69, roger... ok.. i found the proc filesystem in make menuconfig. here's where it's at... |
| 16:33.10 | tuxcrafter | hoxu: the hardcopy C-h only writes an small amount to a file not the compleet buffer |
| 16:33.46 | onetinsoldier | Piper69, File systems ---> Pseudo filesystems ---> [*] /proc file system support |
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| 16:37.00 | Piper69 | i should just use debian original kernel |
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| 16:38.39 | onetinsoldier | Piper69, ok |
| 16:38.45 | hoxu | tuxcrafter, use the "copy" and "paste" binds - before pasting, open a text editor in another screen window |
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| 16:39.29 | onetinsoldier | how do i get icewm-gnome to start with the startx command? what lines should be in my .xsession file? i do not have gdm installed. |
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| 16:44.22 | valdyn | onetinsoldier: "exec icewm-gnome" |
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| 16:46.04 | onetinsoldier | valdyn, are you sure that's all i need? i think i tried that and i just end up back at the console command prompt, no x-windows. i believe icewm-gnome needs session support |
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| 16:47.33 | onetinsoldier | valdyn, lemy try it again tho to be sure.. be back in a bit |
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| 16:49.14 | SparFux | How can I install a .ttf file as a truetype font with defoma? |
| 16:49.57 | cahoot | just put in in a dir fontconfig access |
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| 16:50.26 | valdyn | SparFux: ~/.fonts |
| 16:50.32 | J6Dof | hi , is there a (text) file i can set my proxy settings there ? |
| 16:50.51 | valdyn | !dotfiles |
| 16:50.51 | dpkg | i guess dotfiles is http://wiki.debian.org/DotFiles, or http://www.dotfiles.com/ Remember that changes to these files won't be reflected until you log out and then log back in. Ask me about <bash login scripts>. |
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| 16:51.02 | valdyn | J6Dof: ^^ |
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| 16:53.00 | J6Dof | valdyn:couldnt find anything on that |
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| 16:54.25 | valdyn | J6Dof: why not? |
| 16:54.32 | SparFux | not sure about how to use the font then. |
| 16:54.39 | SparFux | How can I find out the name of it? |
| 16:55.09 | J6Dof | valdyn:cause there is nothing about what i want on this web site :) |
| 16:55.13 | valdyn | J6Dof: http_proxy="http://proxy.tld:portnumber/" sets the http proxy |
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| 16:55.21 | valdyn | J6Dof: what i linked you to explains where to set it |
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| 16:57.52 | J6Dof | valdyn:i use export http_proxy=<my proxy> it works but after i restart my computer i have to set it again . i want to know if there is a text file somwhere i can edit for once |
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| 17:02.01 | rhineheart_m | is there already php5 in repo? |
| 17:02.02 | SparFux | I can't find the font. |
| 17:02.11 | cr3rzemjest | hi |
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| 17:02.29 | epsilon | rhineheart_m: since lenny |
| 17:02.34 | epsilon | ehhhh since etch |
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| 17:02.51 | limpio | hifi, is there a key in iceweasel to make a site 'fit' the monitor's screen? Sometimes the site is wider than the monitor's screen and i have to use the right arrow. |
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| 17:03.02 | rhineheart_m | epsilon, how about etch? |
| 17:03.22 | epsilon | yes I mean since etch |
| 17:03.22 | stoned | judd versions php5 |
| 17:03.24 | judd | stoned: php5 -- etch: 5.2.0-8+etch13 etch-security: 5.2.0-8+etch13 lenny: 5.2.6-5 sid: 5.2.6-5 |
| 17:03.30 | stoned | you have 5.2 in etch |
| 17:03.33 | stoned | whats the matter |
| 17:03.34 | stoned | ? |
| 17:03.40 | stoned | why do you need to build it ? |
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| 17:04.00 | rhineheart_m | yeah.. I just checked it with apt-cache search.. repo has php5 |
| 17:04.22 | stoned | just install php5 and libapach2-mod-php |
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| 17:04.35 | rhineheart_m | apt-get build-dep php5 <<< |
| 17:04.41 | epsilon | compiling php is ugly, you need to tell each single feature to compile... like 20 full lines command line :( |
| 17:04.42 | stoned | why? |
| 17:04.47 | stoned | you don't need to do build-dep |
| 17:04.51 | onetinsoldier | valdyn, it is what i recalled. having just #!/bin/bash and 'exec icewm-gnome' in my $HOME/.xsession file and doing 'startx' does not work. i just end up back at the console command prompt. |
| 17:05.09 | stoned | just aptitude install php5 libapach2-mod-php |
| 17:05.14 | rhineheart_m | ah okay.. just aptitude install php5 libapach2-mod-php ? |
| 17:05.18 | stoned | append 5 at the end |
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| 17:05.20 | stoned | mod-php5 |
| 17:05.22 | stoned | I think |
| 17:05.38 | epsilon | in debian you don't need to build anything yourself |
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| 17:05.53 | rhineheart_m | aptitude install php5 libapach2-mod-php mod-php5 ? |
| 17:06.09 | SparFux | Doesn't seem to be so easy. The font in ~/.fonts does not get listed in xlsfonts |
| 17:06.18 | stoned | Depends: libapache2-mod-php5 (>= 5.2.6-5) | libapache2-mod-php5filter (>= 5.2.6-5) | php5-cgi (>= 5.2.6-5), php5-common (>= 5.2.6-5) |
| 17:06.22 | stoned | nm, just install php5 |
| 17:06.24 | SparFux | Or I have the wrong name for it to grep, but how should I know the name? |
| 17:06.24 | epsilon | apt-cache search php5 and install anything you need |
| 17:06.27 | stoned | stuff will get pulled in |
| 17:06.38 | stoned | install other extnetions and modules for php5 as needed |
| 17:06.40 | cahoot | SparFux: fc-cache -fv |
| 17:06.44 | stoned | but thats what you need to get the basics up |
| 17:06.46 | stoned | !lamp |
| 17:06.46 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, lamp is Linux, Apache, MySQL, {PHP,Perl,Python} server (or see http://wiki.debian.org/LaMp) or maybe Linux Animation and Movie Player, at http://pauillac.inria.fr/lamp/ Ask me about <install debian><install apache2><install mysql><install php>. (Hmm... doesn't that make it a DAMP stack?), or "aptitude install libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server php5-mysql ; a2enmod php5" |
| 17:06.50 | onetinsoldier | does any one know how i can start up icewm-gnome with the startx command? what do i need in my .xsession file? i do not have gdm installed. |
| 17:06.52 | stoned | read this above link |
| 17:07.22 | stoned | onetinsoldier, update-alternatives --config x-session-manager should show your icewm listed |
| 17:07.27 | stoned | select it a default and startx ? |
| 17:07.32 | cr3rzemjest | kdm doesn't launch certain windowmanagers (fluxbox, kde) apart from twm; i type in my password, hit enter, there's a black screen for a fraction of second and kdm appears. i didn't change anything, it worked perfectly well before, except in the list of window manager Fluxbox and kde had 2 entries (i mean: Fluxbox, FluxBox, KDE, KDE)..... the last command i executed before it broke was 'sleep 3h ; shutdown -h now' in root console.... also, my .flu |
| 17:07.32 | cr3rzemjest | xbox/startup has been cleared -.- .. but 'exec fluxbox' doesn't help. |
| 17:07.34 | SparFux | cahoot: shouldn't log out and log in be enough already? |
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| 17:07.50 | stoned | if its not x-session-manager try looking in /etc/alternatives to see which the default is |
| 17:08.02 | stoned | if not, try yout that into your .xinitrc |
| 17:08.30 | cahoot | SparFux: does xlsfonts list your other ttf's? |
| 17:08.41 | rhineheart_m | stoned, you're a debian maintainer right? |
| 17:08.50 | stoned | I try to be |
| 17:08.52 | stoned | why? |
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| 17:09.08 | SparFux | fc-cache found the font in the ~/.fonts dir, but I don't see it in the list as far as I know. How can I now which one might be the new name? There are hundrets of fonts in the list! |
| 17:09.15 | rhineheart_m | mmm.. okay. Just asking. How it is to be a maintainer? |
| 17:09.23 | stoned | currently I'm not maintaing a package but translation of the di |
| 17:09.30 | rhineheart_m | di? |
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| 17:09.39 | limpio | is there a 'fit width' key in iceweasel? |
| 17:09.40 | stoned | I was helping with a few packages earlier this year |
| 17:09.46 | stoned | rhineheart_m, its ok |
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| 17:09.59 | stoned | rhineheart_m, it doesn't make you special, I just volunteer my time to help out |
| 17:10.00 | stoned | :) |
| 17:10.13 | stoned | it doesn't giv eme any special priv. or anything |
| 17:10.14 | stoned | lol |
| 17:10.23 | rhineheart_m | ah okay stoned. I'm not claiming in any way that I'm special :) |
| 17:10.28 | stoned | word |
| 17:10.47 | stoned | no 'you' was a general broad public you, not 'you' personally |
| 17:10.49 | rhineheart_m | don't stone me... lol |
| 17:10.53 | SparFux | limpio: I can't find such a fit-width-key. Sorry. |
| 17:10.54 | stoned | s/you/one |
| 17:11.00 | stoned | rhineheart_m, yeh |
| 17:11.05 | stoned | ack to ##php then? |
| 17:11.07 | stoned | back* |
| 17:11.22 | stoned | In fact I been meaning to pick up another package |
| 17:11.44 | stoned | sicne I'm developing my crossplatform apps for windows/linux in php-gtk, I have not found php-gtk extentions in debian |
| 17:11.55 | stoned | I was gonna file an ITP a few days ago but I got lazy, I better get onit |
| 17:12.04 | rhineheart_m | ah okay.. so you're a maintainer then... |
| 17:12.10 | stoned | I should maintain php-gtk as I doubt anyone else is gonna |
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| 17:12.59 | onetinsoldier | stoned, ok, thanks. it's now set to 'gnome-session'... i will be back in a few. hopefully in icewm-gnome. i had looked at update-alternatives --display x-window-manager and icewm-gnome was not listed, but not x-session. hopefully this will do the trick! thanks |
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| 17:13.31 | stoned | onetinsoldier, I'm not sure if x-session only shows the DE manager or just the Window manager |
| 17:13.54 | stoned | but I think icewm is the window manager, and icewm-gnome are gnome binginds for it |
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| 17:14.08 | stoned | I've no idea, I don't use gnome, I've been avid KDE3 lover for years now |
| 17:14.40 | onetinsoldier | stoned, well x-session and x-window-manager are two different things... and yes, icewm-gnome is the window manager. but it needs 'session' support |
| 17:14.53 | stoned | I meant x-session-manager |
| 17:15.01 | stoned | yes i know those are two diff alternatives :) |
| 17:15.10 | onetinsoldier | update-alternatives --config x-session-manager was previously set to... *+ 1 /usr/bin/xfce4-session |
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| 17:15.24 | stoned | did it show icewm-gnome? |
| 17:15.33 | onetinsoldier | now set to just... gnome-session. so hopefully that will do it.. brb |
| 17:15.38 | onetinsoldier | stoned no |
| 17:15.38 | stoned | ok test it out |
| 17:15.38 | limpio | SparFux, thank you, i'll keep googling... |
| 17:16.21 | Polarina | Do you recommend encrypting the file system on a laptop (which I'm using for high school)? |
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| 17:16.35 | Akiyuki | Anyone know a way to pipe tcpdump to ftp? |
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| 17:16.44 | stoned | Polarina, that depends on you |
| 17:16.47 | SystemFAILURE | h e l l o |
| 17:16.49 | onetinsoldier | stoned, no... there were three choices.... 1 /usr/bin/xfce4-session -or- 2 /usr/bin/startkde -or- 3 /usr/bin/gnome-session |
| 17:16.52 | stoned | Polarina, what kind of data, what kind of people? |
| 17:17.02 | onetinsoldier | brb |
| 17:17.14 | stoned | onetinsoldier, gnome-session probably refers to gnome login manager app |
| 17:17.17 | stoned | gdm I think |
| 17:17.20 | Polarina | stoned: People? The people are from the local neighbourhood and few towns close. |
| 17:17.23 | stoned | I have no idea, I give up! |
| 17:17.32 | onetinsoldier | i do not have gdm installed |
| 17:17.33 | Polarina | stoned: School data. My work, projects, etc. |
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| 17:17.45 | stoned | Polarina, I meant as in are you expecting many people to touch your laptop? |
| 17:18.04 | stoned | Polarina, encrypting the entire drive seems a bit overkill for that much security |
| 17:18.13 | Polarina | stoned: No, but you never know if someone sneaks into it while I'm taking a break. |
| 17:18.14 | stoned | you can simply put your data on an encrypted FS |
| 17:18.19 | Polarina | Toilet run or something. |
| 17:18.23 | stoned | Polarina, set passwords |
| 17:18.33 | stoned | how many people in your highschool know how to break into a secure debian box? |
| 17:18.34 | stoned | ... |
| 17:18.48 | Akiyuki | lol |
| 17:19.02 | Polarina | stoned: I know of only one student who might want to do that. |
| 17:19.20 | stoned | well then go for it |
| 17:19.23 | stoned | encrypt it all |
| 17:19.27 | stoned | set multiple layers of passwords |
| 17:19.34 | stoned | invest in a biometric locking mechanism |
| 17:19.40 | stoned | system won't boot without your finger print |
| 17:19.51 | stoned | you can do a lot of things to secure data |
| 17:20.01 | stoned | but what can you have as a highschol student, yo ucan't have sensitive classified info |
| 17:20.09 | Polarina | That won't be of any use. |
| 17:20.14 | stoned | you may have some porn or soemthing you don't want yoru guidance councelours to see |
| 17:20.17 | stoned | but I mean c'mon |
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| 17:20.24 | stoned | its easy to hide porn |
| 17:20.32 | Polarina | True, and I don't have any. |
| 17:20.38 | jester | you put it under your taxes directory |
| 17:20.39 | stoned | otherwise keep your laptop in your booksack |
| 17:20.45 | jpinx | Polarina: if you use a good enough password and change it regularly - just log out |
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| 17:20.48 | Akiyuki | Anyone know a way to pipe tcp dump through ftp/ssh Or another means of streaming it to another location, live? |
| 17:20.48 | stoned | at all times, on your person |
| 17:21.38 | Polarina | jpinx: Well, that one person that knows how to break secure debian box is me... |
| 17:21.40 | stoned | Akiyuki, not live I don't think |
| 17:21.41 | jpinx | Polarina: and disallow root log-in |
| 17:22.03 | stoned | Akiyuki, unless you have a sshfs setup for the other location, mounted locally, to which you can save the local tcpdump to |
| 17:22.13 | jpinx | Polarina: if you can't login, you can't break into anything |
| 17:22.13 | stoned | other than that I dunno how you would pipe it |
| 17:22.25 | Akiyuki | stoned, Damn. I have a linux based router, an Edgemarc that only has 8MB of disk space. I need to record voip calls using tcpdump. But most calls exceed 8MB. |
| 17:22.31 | x1250 | hi folks, I have a daemon process, and I would like to ensure that if it gets killed, it will resurrect. Is there anywhere in the system where I can configure something like this for a daemon process? |
| 17:22.35 | Polarina | jpinx: I could mount the drive in another computer. |
| 17:22.42 | stoned | Akiyuki, hm ouch |
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| 17:23.10 | jpinx | Polarina: that is a physical hack - not what we are talking about here in guarding your laptop |
| 17:23.16 | guyzmo | hi, just to be sure : intel xeon processor is indeed ia64 ? :) |
| 17:23.18 | Akiyuki | stoned, Yeah, our VoIP provider doesnt offer recording services, and by law we are required to do so. I might try to see if I can mirror one of the ports on the switches to do so, but I dont think these cheap 3coms do. |
| 17:23.24 | stoned | !xeon |
| 17:23.24 | dpkg | The Xeon brand refers to many families of Intel's x86 multiprocessing CPUs â for dual-processor (DP) and multi-processor (MP) configuration on a single motherboard targeted at non-consumer markets of server and workstation computers. For more details see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xeon, or use amd64 as arch |
| 17:23.32 | jpinx | Polarina: weld the HDD into the laptop |
| 17:23.39 | stoned | I guess not |
| 17:23.40 | Polarina | jpinx: Ok. |
| 17:23.48 | guyzmo | so it is amd64 ?! |
| 17:23.51 | stoned | xeon is em64t? if it says to use amd64 |
| 17:23.52 | Polarina | Well, ok - then I see no use of an encryption. |
| 17:24.01 | xingu | observes that tcpdump drops frames like no tomorrow under nontrivial workloads |
| 17:24.19 | jpinx | Polarina: there are lots of uses for encryption - but not for what you need |
| 17:25.05 | stoned | php+JS is easy |
| 17:25.10 | stoned | you can easily write click events |
| 17:25.21 | jpinx | Polarina: I have all my sensitive data on a removable hdd which I put in my pocket |
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| 17:25.42 | stoned | in php-gtk I have to draw the fuckinb button, attatch a click event signal to it with a callback function, and then I have to write the call back function |
| 17:25.45 | stoned | ugh... |
| 17:25.52 | stoned | tripple the amount of work, but its good stuff |
| 17:25.53 | segosa | when I do apt-get install xv it says "The following NEW packages will be installed: xv" but also above it, it says that basically every single package on my system was automatically installed and can be remoevd with auto-remove (1.5GB worth of packages, including x and gnome, and everything else). xv is just an image viewer, why is it doing that |
| 17:26.03 | stoned | hm |
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| 17:26.28 | stoned | judd versions xv |
| 17:26.29 | judd | stoned: xv -- |
| 17:26.40 | stoned | segosa, its beause here is no xv |
| 17:26.40 | guyzmo | ok then I'm dling amd64 netinstall ;) |
| 17:27.00 | stoned | s/here/there |
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| 17:27.10 | segosa | ok, i just checked, it's coming from debian unofficial |
| 17:27.12 | segosa | that might be why |
| 17:27.30 | stoned | !info xv etch |
| 17:27.48 | stoned | cmon |
| 17:27.53 | stoned | you slow piece of crap bot |
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| 17:28.10 | Akiyuki | stoned, Does a mounted ssh file system take up disk space? or is just like mounting a samba? |
| 17:28.11 | stoned | yeh pacakge xv does not exist in any debian |
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| 17:28.28 | stoned | Akiyuki, its just mounting, but on your router, do you have sshfs? |
| 17:28.42 | jpinx | !tell stoned about xv |
| 17:28.48 | Akiyuki | possibly, im not at work right now. I will have to check. |
| 17:28.56 | Akiyuki | If it exceeds 8MB though, im screwed ;) |
| 17:29.01 | stoned | jpinx, I'm aware |
| 17:29.32 | stoned | Akiyuki, you can install ssh fs on the router, mount your desktop's ~/tmp to it, and save your tcp dumps to it |
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| 17:29.40 | stoned | they will take space on your desktop and not router |
| 17:29.46 | stoned | so disk space limitation is not an issue |
| 17:30.08 | Akiyuki | Ah, ok. thats what i was wondering. That would be pretty sweet. |
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| 17:30.33 | Akiyuki | This is one of those Edgemark routers, where it is a CentOS installation, but extremely slimmed down, and everything segfaults when you issue commands :P |
| 17:30.40 | stoned | lol |
| 17:30.51 | stoned | I use a 266mhz p2 as a router |
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| 17:30.59 | xingu | "router" |
| 17:31.00 | stoned | it works great, and is extremely customizable with a 1gb disk |
| 17:31.00 | stoned | ;) |
| 17:31.06 | vsayikiran | which eclipse package should i need to install to compile java application |
| 17:31.29 | stoned | xingu, ? |
| 17:31.37 | stoned | did you have something to addy buddy? |
| 17:31.40 | stoned | add* |
| 17:32.14 | xingu | stoned: how many prefixes does its routing table have exactly? |
| 17:32.49 | vsayikiran | i want to compile java appllication programs please suggest me which ecliipse package do i need to install |
| 17:34.51 | stoned | what? |
| 17:34.52 | stoned | why? |
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| 17:36.21 | GeorgeS^ | Could someone help me.I'm trying to "rescue" an etch system that is using all raid except for the /boot partition(which is now wiped out).My problem is when I boot a DVD and run it in rescue mode it won't let me choose a raid device to mount as / . All I get are all the partitions on all 4 drives. Just pointing me to a "how-to" somewhere would be helpful. |
| 17:36.57 | xingu | stoned: "ip route list | wc -l" - 2? 2000? |
| 17:37.23 | stoned | letme ask again. |
| 17:37.27 | stoned | Why? |
| 17:37.43 | vsayikiran | i want to use eclipse , can anyone suggest me which package should i install |
| 17:38.09 | stoned | vsayikiran, you don't want to install eclipse from packages |
| 17:38.11 | xingu | stoned: because if it's only got a couple of prefixes, chances are you could probably re-engineer your AS to eliminate it entirely |
| 17:38.26 | stoned | vsayikiran, you will only find |
| 17:38.31 | stoned | xingu, im not worried about it |
| 17:38.43 | stoned | vsayikiran, you will only find older versions |
| 17:38.51 | stoned | vsayikiran, install eclipse from eclipse website |
| 17:38.57 | stoned | latest version |
| 17:38.58 | xingu | a router with a minimal, static routing table is about as interesting in the "router" sense of the word as a hub |
| 17:39.04 | stoned | judd versions eclipse-platform |
| 17:39.05 | judd | stoned: eclipse-platform -- etch: 3.2.1-4 lenny: 3.2.2-5 sid: 3.2.2-5 |
| 17:39.13 | stoned | yeh, you want 3.4 |
| 17:39.16 | stoned | don't use packages |
| 17:39.21 | vsayikiran | stoned: yes i want to install from aptitude packages only, but there are many different version , i dont know which one is suitable for me |
| 17:39.50 | cr3rzemjest | how to check if device is mounted in a script, in a not stupiway? |
| 17:39.53 | stoned | vsayikiran, well if you want to stick to packages you'll have much older maybe non supported versions of software |
| 17:39.53 | cr3rzemjest | 8d |
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| 17:40.14 | stoned | vsayikiran, seriously, ALL you need is to download the latest eclipse package from eclpse, unpack it, the run the ./eclipse file |
| 17:40.20 | stoned | if you have a JRE installed |
| 17:40.21 | stoned | thats all |
| 17:40.40 | stoned | if you want 3.2version, aptitude isntall eclipse-platform for the minimal version |
| 17:40.50 | vsayikiran | stoned: so you suggest me to download from eclipse website |
| 17:41.07 | stoned | yes I would |
| 17:41.12 | xingu | Akiyuki: if you're taling sarbox lawful intercept req. you probably want to go talk to acme packet |
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| 17:41.30 | Akiyuki | !? |
| 17:41.52 | stoned | I don't think xingu has had his morning tea yet |
| 17:41.53 | stoned | :) |
| 17:41.56 | Akiyuki | lol |
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| 17:42.14 | stoned | sounds like loony toons |
| 17:42.18 | stoned | acme packet |
| 17:42.28 | stoned | bomb powder in acme packet |
| 17:42.31 | stoned | lol |
| 17:42.35 | Akiyuki | thats what i was thinkig |
| 17:42.38 | stoned | hehehe |
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| 17:43.16 | xoz | GeorgeS^: http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/mondo.htm |
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| 17:43.46 | GeorgeS^ | Thanks xoz! I will check that out |
| 17:43.54 | stoned | mondo |
| 17:43.56 | stoned | hm |
| 17:44.15 | stoned | ahh |
| 17:44.36 | xingu | Akiyuki: http://www.acmepacket.com/html/page.asp?PageID={06E4AEBC-24E2-46CC-BA95-7C74288FA45B} <-- these guys; they've dealt with the full calea req. before. |
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| 17:44.47 | Akiyuki | ty |
| 17:44.51 | flypiper | GeorgeS^, you can also try an Etch-live CD and look at your system ... http://live.debian.net |
| 17:45.14 | pandrew | offtopic: can anyone recommend a good compressed file library in which lets me modify any part of a big compressed file? |
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| 17:46.13 | GeorgeS^ | flypiper: I can see all the MD partitions. I even managed to run e2fsck on them and they are fine(thank god!) just I lost the /boot partition and now I need to rescue the system and can't mount the / partition (MD0) |
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| 17:47.56 | lem0n | hello! i have a local gentoo server here, and 192.168.1.52 and 192.168.1.53 are both allocated to it, the latter being a virtual interface, one physical NIC. i'm attempting to configure named to listen on BOTH of those addresses, but am only having luck with it listening on the first one. here's the block for listening http://pastebin.ca/1270379 |
| 17:48.04 | xingu | Akiyuki: strongly suggest you forget about using a pc with tcpdump, when it matters most you'll have discards; if you want to go down the span/ rspan route give niksun a look; either way _talk_ to the guys... |
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| 17:48.22 | Akiyuki | ok ty |
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| 17:48.44 | stoned | :) |
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| 17:54.22 | xingu | lem0n: try listen-on { 192.168.1.52; 192.168.1.53; }; |
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| 17:55.17 | iShock | K guys, I downloaded the Netinst CD, do I need a CD-R(W) or will DVD-R suffice? |
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| 17:55.47 | jpinx | iShock: whatever you can boot from |
| 17:56.08 | iShock | Pretty sure I can boot from DVD-R .. Can't hurt to try, I got a crapload of DVDs. |
| 17:56.21 | iShock | Just need to figure out how to get to them rofl |
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| 17:56.42 | jpinx | iShock: you'll need to put the netinstall on something you can boot from |
| 17:56.58 | iShock | I think I can boot from them |
| 17:57.02 | iShock | If I can get into them. |
| 17:57.05 | jpinx | iShock: I used the business card .iso 'cod it was smallest |
| 17:57.18 | iShock | I don't have any CDs like that |
| 17:57.29 | iShock | Besides, I already downloaded the netinstall ISO |
| 17:57.38 | jpinx | iShock: it's not important the type of CD you use - |
| 17:57.49 | iShock | Mmmh, the best part of thanksgiving |
| 17:58.07 | iShock | Turkey sandwiches :> |
| 17:58.11 | jpinx | so long as you can get the image onto it and boot from it |
| 17:58.20 | lem0n | ahh, k, xingu |
| 17:58.36 | jpinx | pardons all turkeys until christmas ;) |
| 17:58.51 | iShock | Lol |
| 17:59.01 | GeorgeS^ | Mondo looks great if I had used it to make a back-up before I had a problem :) I don't see how it can help me now though. |
| 17:59.04 | iShock | I know what I'm gonna do when I grow up :< |
| 17:59.20 | iShock | Make like a ton of biiiiiiiiig turkeys, and have sandwiches for lyfe :o |
| 17:59.23 | Polarina | In the netinst CD it says "Software selection; Choose software to install:". And it has the option 'Laptop'. What does it install if I select that option? |
| 17:59.38 | iShock | Programs? :x |
| 17:59.46 | iShock | Nasty, Brasero. |
| 17:59.46 | Polarina | What programs? |
| 17:59.54 | lem0n | xingu: it's still not responding on that IP when i attempt to resolve something |
| 18:00.03 | jpinx | Polarina: various laptop specific laptop options |
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| 18:00.17 | Polarina | jpinx: Like? |
| 18:00.20 | iShock | jpinx, this is interesting .. Brasero won't let me burn to it .. |
| 18:00.28 | jpinx | Polarina: not sure exactly, but you can live without them if you are pushed for space |
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| 18:00.55 | Polarina | jpinx: Just want to know. Is there a list of what applications it will install? |
| 18:00.56 | jpinx | installed the base system only and then added what he wanted |
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| 18:01.22 | iShock | is pissed at Brasero |
| 18:01.25 | iShock | Operation not permitted? |
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| 18:01.33 | jpinx | Polarina: giyf ;) |
| 18:01.34 | Polarina | iShock: wodim file.iso |
| 18:01.41 | iShock | wodim? |
| 18:01.44 | rto | Does anybody know why there is no mod_proxy module for Apache 1.3 on etch? |
| 18:01.49 | Polarina | jpinx: Ok, where should I start looking? Debian.org |
| 18:01.52 | Polarina | ? |
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| 18:01.55 | jpinx | iShock: dd |
| 18:02.06 | iShock | dd? |
| 18:02.09 | jpinx | Polarina: google |
| 18:02.17 | Polarina | jpinx: Thank you. |
| 18:02.34 | Polarina | rto: You might want Apache 2.0. Version 1.3 is obsolete. |
| 18:02.34 | pipeline | rto: apache 1.3 is dead, use 2.0 or 2.2 |
| 18:02.37 | jpinx | iShock: man dd |
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| 18:03.06 | iShock | F it, to k3b I go |
| 18:03.10 | rto | Oh, 2.0 is on the agenda - just not right now. |
| 18:03.56 | rto | I'm just a little surprised that it is not there. |
| 18:03.58 | iShock | I like apache 1.3.3.7 |
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| 18:04.26 | xoz | GeorgeS^: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/boot-from-raid-debian-lenny-600917/ |
| 18:04.30 | Polarina | iShock: Yes, that's the greatest epic successful failure. |
| 18:05.06 | iShock | Wait, doesn't DVD-R mean it's writeable? |
| 18:05.22 | jpinx | iShock: no |
| 18:05.22 | Elite | yea |
| 18:05.25 | Polarina | iShock: correct. |
| 18:05.36 | iShock | So why isn't my damn laptop detecting it? :< |
| 18:05.40 | jpinx | iShock: r = read . rw = read/write |
| 18:05.51 | iShock | Two people say yes one says no .. |
| 18:05.54 | Polarina | iShock: R = recordable; rw = rewritable |
| 18:05.58 | Elite | jpinx, shh he's right |
| 18:06.03 | Polarina | iShock: It is recordable. |
| 18:06.07 | GeorgeS^ | thank you again xoz. |
| 18:06.07 | iShock | Can I burn an ISO to a DVD-R |
| 18:06.07 | rto | iShock: Thank god for democracy :) |
| 18:06.14 | Polarina | iShock: Yes. |
| 18:06.18 | xoz | iShock: record once only |
| 18:06.19 | Polarina | iShock: And boot up from it. |
| 18:06.24 | jpinx | if it's a blank dvd - that's a no brainer ;) |
| 18:06.36 | jpinx | has to be recordable |
| 18:06.53 | iShock | Okay, then, Xubuntu isn't detecting a medium in my drive. :< |
| 18:07.08 | jpinx | ishock go to #ubuntu |
| 18:07.14 | iShock | lee@Vertex:~$ cat /dev/dvd |
| 18:07.15 | iShock | cat: /dev/dvd: No medium found |
| 18:07.24 | jpinx | this is #debian |
| 18:07.31 | iShock | Almost the same distro .. |
| 18:07.40 | Polarina | iShock: It isn't detecting the existence of your drive! |
| 18:07.53 | jpinx | iShock: dangerous - it is obviously not the same |
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| 18:08.18 | jpinx | iShock: try #ubuntu |
| 18:08.30 | iShock | I'm there, jpinx. |
| 18:08.51 | xoz | iShock: google recording iso in ubuntu. there is a tutorial somewhere. dont fish info here. that is a basic howto. |
| 18:09.19 | iShock | I can't record it if it can't find it, xoz - Suddenly it becomes less basic |
| 18:09.41 | xoz | iShock: read the manual. you have a distorted expectation of facts. |
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| 18:12.57 | Polarina | I can't find the list of programs installed by tasksel. |
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| 18:14.00 | jpinx | Polarina: I confess to always having trouble in finding what is or isn't installed, so I'm interested in how you find out |
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| 18:16.10 | Polarina | jpinx: Can you run this for me and pastebin the output?: tasksel --task-packages laptop |
| 18:16.28 | xoz | Polarina: taskel --task-packages [desktop|laptop...] |
| 18:16.28 | Polarina | That should list the applications that are going to be installed with the laptop option. |
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| 18:17.08 | Polarina | Oh, wait. I was able to do a Alt + F2 on the install CD. :) |
| 18:17.26 | Polarina | No tasksel command... |
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| 18:18.20 | xoz | Polarina: acpi-support hibernate acpi powertop apmd radeontool anacron wireless-tools cpufrequtils nvclock wpasupplicant vbetool acpid pcmciautils toshset bluetooth avahi-autoipd |
| 18:18.59 | Polarina | xoz: Thank you. |
| 18:19.09 | xoz | Polarina: np |
| 18:19.17 | jpinx | Polarina: found this command that seems to work for existing installed stuffdpkg --get-selections |
| 18:19.29 | Polarina | Thank you. |
| 18:20.40 | jpinx | and what xoz said -- I got the same ;) |
| 18:21.02 | Polarina | I don't need some of these so I'm going to install some manually. Thanks everyone. |
| 18:21.30 | jpinx | Polarina: I have found some conflicts with some of these and later isntalled things |
| 18:21.43 | Polarina | jpinx: What do you mean? |
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| 18:22.08 | jpinx | hibernate is paticularly vulnerable, so is sound on a laptop (not sure about a desktop) |
| 18:22.32 | Polarina | I only need suspend. :) |
| 18:23.19 | jpinx | wonders what the difference is |
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| 18:23.32 | xoz | Polarina: what comp brand? |
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| 18:23.45 | Polarina | Mitac. |
| 18:23.52 | jpinx | my hibernate/suspend now actually reboots the laptop |
| 18:23.54 | stevedondley | ping dondelelcaro |
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| 18:24.42 | Polarina | xoz: Mitac MiNote 8252DC I believe. |
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| 18:27.16 | guyzmo | hm... I'm reading a bit on the net about debian and poweredge |
| 18:27.44 | guyzmo | and I'm wondering if that's a good idea to do so (I'll only run a webserver and a icecast on that one) |
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| 18:29.46 | Polarina | guyzmo: Yes, that's a good idea. |
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| 18:30.19 | pim | I have tried using zcat. zcat insists on damaging the filesystem of my usb device. What alternative is there for using zcat? |
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| 18:31.50 | cahoot | pim: you're catting an.img ? |
| 18:32.24 | pim | that is correct cahoot |
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| 18:33.02 | pim | I used the following: zcat /home/pim/Bureaublad/boot.img.gz | dd of=/dev/sdf |
| 18:33.12 | pim | to write to my usb-drive |
| 18:33.30 | cahoot | pim: and what problem ensues? |
| 18:33.53 | guyzmo | Polarina - ok, thanks, I hate redh^Wfedora stuff and suse sucks and ubuntu is like a bazooka to kill a fly... |
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| 18:34.03 | pim | http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=191653#191653 --> it breaks the filesystem |
| 18:34.22 | pim | making it not possible to read or write properly |
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| 18:35.05 | cahoot | note that this will probably destroy your partitions |
| 18:35.18 | quentusrex | How do I install a package with apt-get that I have on my harddrive? I need the dependancies resolved... |
| 18:35.20 | cahoot | your mentor told |
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| 18:35.35 | xorl` | quentusrex, dpkg :) |
| 18:35.40 | xorl` | dpkg -i file.deb |
| 18:35.40 | dpkg | removes a lung from xorl` and replaces it with file.deb |
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| 18:35.45 | pim | cahoot I shall try gunzip -c |
| 18:35.53 | quentusrex | dpkg, doesn't resolve the dependancies.... |
| 18:35.54 | dpkg | quentusrex: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 18:36.07 | xorl` | lol |
| 18:36.09 | guyzmo | quentusrex - it does, though you have to contribute :) |
| 18:36.14 | quentusrex | lol.. |
| 18:36.21 | quentusrex | alright |
| 18:36.30 | xorl` | quentusrex, it does, but it's not as forgiving as apt-get :P |
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| 18:37.21 | guyzmo | quentusrex - if you want a way to install a .deb + dependencies, go get ubuntu. Debian is for real men |
| 18:37.24 | guyzmo | :p |
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| 18:37.36 | quentusrex | lol |
| 18:37.37 | ringo999 | hi, im trying to get the microphone working with debian lenny... I'm using a macbook 1st generation. anyone who got it working or would be willing to help? |
| 18:37.53 | MrBIOS | hi folks |
| 18:37.55 | MrBIOS | I just performed a successful install of debian on a B&W G3 PPC box, but when it goes to boot, it loads yaboot, succesfully loads the initrd, and then seemingly fails to init the framebuffer properly. I've tried using video=ofonly and video=radeonfb:1024x768 to no avail. |
| 18:38.10 | MrBIOS | for all I know, the machine may continue booting, but I can't see anything |
| 18:38.14 | cahoot | pim: I actually believe you try to avoid the inevitable if you dd and .img to the device |
| 18:38.20 | MrBIOS | sorry, not radeonfb, but aty128fb |
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| 18:38.31 | MrBIOS | this is on a B&W G3 PowerPC Mac |
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| 18:38.41 | pim | cahoot , what do you think is the essential problem with the thing I'm doing? |
| 18:38.48 | xoz | MrBIOS: try init single in the boot param |
| 18:39.02 | jpinx | Polarina: a bit more googling and I turned up this little gem -- dpkg -l | awk '{print $2}' > installed_packages.txt |
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| 18:39.07 | MrBIOS | xoz: sure thing |
| 18:39.12 | guyzmo | hop hop hop good old text install |
| 18:39.17 | Polarina | jpinx: Noted, thank you. |
| 18:39.19 | guyzmo | loves debian's net install |
| 18:39.23 | guyzmo | I hope it will never change :) |
| 18:39.27 | pim | doesn't |
| 18:39.40 | MrBIOS | xoz: same deal, sadly |
| 18:39.52 | xoz | loves the wireless install |
| 18:39.58 | xoz | MrBIOS: what do you mean |
| 18:40.01 | Elite | MrBIOS: where did you get your name from? |
| 18:40.03 | MrBIOS | xoz: the strange thing is the framebuffer inits fine during the CD installation |
| 18:40.04 | Polarina | xoz: Huh? |
| 18:40.08 | guyzmo | xoz - wireless install ?! |
| 18:40.17 | MrBIOS | elite: long story, it's a play on a lot of things |
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| 18:40.43 | xoz | is just kidding. :) |
| 18:40.43 | Elite | SO does it have anything to actually do with BIOS's? |
| 18:40.49 | MrBIOS | video=ofonly also does not work. |
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| 18:40.54 | MrBIOS | and it does off the installation CD |
| 18:41.02 | xoz | MrBIOS: what debian? |
| 18:41.08 | MrBIOS | yes, 4.0R5 |
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| 18:41.36 | Elite | 4.0R5? |
| 18:41.49 | xoz | MrBIOS: lenny? or sarge? |
| 18:41.57 | xoz | or etch? |
| 18:42.01 | guyzmo | btw, how was Sam as DPL ? :) |
| 18:42.08 | xoz | MrBIOS: /etc/debian_version |
| 18:42.22 | guyzmo | (please troll if you feel like, I'm doing a netinstall, I have time to spend :P) |
| 18:42.29 | xoz | oh, i remembered he has no scree :( |
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| 18:43.03 | MrBIOS | xoz: lenny |
| 18:43.09 | MrBIOS | brand spanking new CD burn |
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| 18:43.32 | xoz | MrBIOS: even text console does not work? |
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| 18:43.51 | Elite | Does anyone here code drivers? |
| 18:43.53 | xoz | MrBIOS: what mac? ppc g3, right? |
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| 18:44.33 | pim | cahoot I do not get your point. This tutorial says I should zcat that file and then copy an Iso image. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianAcerOne |
| 18:44.33 | CeleronBrain | Elite is a troll; don't feed the troll. |
| 18:44.44 | skainz | hi ! if i want to adopt an orphaned package, what do I have to do ? |
| 18:44.47 | pim | How can that be if it keeps breaking the file system? |
| 18:45.20 | guyzmo | sends peanuts to Elite |
| 18:45.44 | Elite | CeleronBrain, I am seeking legitimate help to get my PC to run properly and if you can't deal with it then....Fuck OFF |
| 18:45.44 | jpinx | !feed Elite |
| 18:45.44 | dpkg | serves up a lovely steak and ale pie to Elite. |
| 18:45.55 | guyzmo | damn I'm hungry |
| 18:45.56 | CeleronBrain | !care elite |
| 18:45.57 | guyzmo | I want pizzas |
| 18:45.59 | guyzmo | :( |
| 18:46.19 | MrBIOS | I don't understand why this works fine off the installation CD and not off the successful install |
| 18:46.27 | cahoot | pim: this didn't work out for you? zcat /path/to/boot.img.gz > /dev/sdz |
| 18:46.27 | CeleronBrain | Elite: CARE = Really, we don't |
| 18:46.38 | xoz | MrBIOS: the same kernel? |
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| 18:46.43 | pim | cahoot , no it breaks the filesystem |
| 18:46.47 | xoz | MrBIOS: in both install and cd? |
| 18:47.03 | xoz | MrBIOS: try disable fb |
| 18:47.09 | Elite | Then maybe you shouldn't be in a supprt channel where people should care enough to help instead of being here trolling about how you think other people are trolling |
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| 18:47.37 | CeleronBrain | No one here is going to help you get a winmodem working by coding a driver, Elite. Look up Linuxant, though. |
| 18:47.37 | MrBIOS | xoz: as a linux bootparam? |
| 18:47.56 | Elite | Thats more what I wanted was some direction |
| 18:47.59 | xoz | Elite: if you are not trolling, post your questions. we will know if you have legitimate questions or trolling. |
| 18:48.07 | cahoot | pim: did you read the comment from Odd Henriksen below? |
| 18:48.27 | xoz | !ask |
| 18:48.27 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 18:48.38 | Elite | xoz: its kinda self explanitory, I need a driver coded for OSX |
| 18:48.45 | CeleronBrain | xoz: He was trolling ##programming earlier trying to get someone to code him a free driver for his winmodem (so he can run it on OS X). |
| 18:49.03 | CeleronBrain | Elite is a kiddie that installed OS X illegally on his Dell. |
| 18:49.12 | xorl` | haha |
| 18:49.15 | CeleronBrain | Which is offtopic in #debian. |
| 18:49.17 | xorl` | Good luck Elite |
| 18:49.17 | pim | cahoot yes, but it's able to mount the drive |
| 18:49.17 | Elite | Its not a fucking dell for the billionth time |
| 18:49.30 | CeleronBrain | Elite: Rednecktosh |
| 18:49.31 | xorl` | we've been trying to code winmodem drivers for the past two years. |
| 18:49.33 | MrBIOS | elite: that's not relevant, now kindly fuck off |
| 18:49.37 | xorl` | Fat chance of getting it to work./ |
| 18:49.47 | cahoot | pim: but not after the zcat? |
| 18:49.52 | xorl` | The internal API's for OSX don't permit half the crap you need to be able to do. |
| 18:49.53 | xoz | MrBIOS: yep. |
| 18:49.59 | MrBIOS | xoz: disablefb? |
| 18:50.02 | pim | cahoot, yes I can still mount it after zcatting |
| 18:50.16 | Elite | Last time I checked the server this channel resides on it in the United States of America which the last time I check was a free country |
| 18:50.19 | MrBIOS | xoz: AFAIK I must have an fb on PPC, as there's no VGA BIOS |
| 18:50.27 | xorl` | Elite, haha. |
| 18:50.32 | CeleronBrain | Elite: I've already given you the link to the U.S. Robotic modem for OS X. It's really cheap and it should work in your USB port of your Rednecktosh even though you illegally installed OS X. |
| 18:50.47 | xoz | MrBIOS: you dont need an fb for console |
| 18:50.48 | CeleronBrain | Elite: That's the best solution you're going to get, now go away. |
| 18:50.50 | cahoot | pim: mount the flash drive and copy over the net-install ISO file. - doesn't work? |
| 18:51.00 | xorl` | CeleronBrain, love it, redknecktosh |
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| 18:51.07 | CeleronBrain | =) |
| 18:51.47 | Elite | First off people ony think it illegal, because apple encoded the retail dvd's with a special key and they gave it to the OSX x86 devs so tell me apple is going to do shit about it |
| 18:51.57 | xoz | MrBIOS: vga=normal |
| 18:51.57 | Elite | Its not as illegal as you think |
| 18:52.08 | xorl` | Elite, this is a debian channel. |
| 18:52.21 | xorl` | GTFO If you're not going to be asking/talking/discussing debian related topics. |
| 18:52.24 | Elite | It could be a fucking google channel for all I care |
| 18:52.31 | CeleronBrain | !ops Elite loltastic epic fail troll |
| 18:52.31 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: celeronbrain complains about: Elite loltastic epic fail troll |
| 18:52.38 | pim | cahoot thank you everything's clear now |
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| 18:52.51 | pim | cahoot the copying works |
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| 18:53.08 | CeleronBrain | Elite: We're not helping you break an EULA anywhere on Freenode. |
| 18:53.36 | Elite | hahaha so coding a driver constitutes that when? |
| 18:53.38 | cahoot | strange choice of nick considering the utter lameness |
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| 18:53.58 | xoz | MrBIOS: video=vesafboff |
| 18:54.14 | MrBIOS | xoz: tried that, same deal |
| 18:54.17 | xorl` | cahoot 1, elite 0. |
| 18:54.33 | xoz | MrBIOS: vga=normal? |
| 18:54.39 | MrBIOS | loads the initrd and never gets out of there. Yes, vga=normal |
| 18:54.44 | Elite | Wow that was just fucking weak, considering its been use a billion times |
| 18:54.48 | CeleronBrain | Elite: No one is going to code you a driver for the third day! I gave you a reasonable solution (buy a USB modem that supports OS X and put it in your Rednecktosh, those USB modems are common on ebay). You won't accept my reasonable solution, so you're here to troll. |
| 18:54.50 | MrBIOS | honestly it seems as if the bootparams aren't getting passed along. |
| 18:54.52 | Elite | cahoot 0 elite 0 |
| 18:55.07 | Maulkin | Elite: I'm afraid we can't condone any illegal activity here. May I suggest IRCNet? |
| 18:55.26 | Maulkin | And please try and calm down and stop swearing. Thanks. |
| 18:55.36 | Elite | Maulkin: what are you saying that coding drivers is illegal |
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| 18:55.46 | grco | jou |
| 18:55.53 | xorl` | Elite, Take to to EFnet |
| 18:55.59 | CeleronBrain | Elite: The l33t peeps in some #hackerz channel on some network will be happy to help you with an rm -rf script *COUGH* *COUGH* modem driver. |
| 18:56.11 | xoz | MrBIOS: video=ofonly nosplash |
| 18:56.24 | Maulkin | Elite: Or Efnet. This is for Debian support. Is there anything else we can help you with? |
| 18:56.24 | CeleronBrain | The USB modem solution is the only way you're getting Dial-Up on a Rednecktosh. |
| 18:56.44 | CeleronBrain | Elite has ignored that solution, so he's a troll. |
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| 18:57.20 | Elite | No I just don't need to spend anout 40 bucks on something I just spent 30 bucks to buy a new internal one |
| 18:57.21 | xoz | MrBIOS: your install cd use graphical installation? |
| 18:57.35 | MrBIOS | xoz: nope, text |
| 18:57.48 | pim | The problem I have now is: I have installed a debian base system. I have got a wireless repeater which has been configured as a wireless network receiver. In theory debian should now acknowlege that repeater as a wired network connection. It does not however. What could be the problem |
| 18:57.54 | MrBIOS | elite: if you were stupid enough to buy a modem without knowing it would be compatible, you can sit and spin |
| 18:57.55 | sladi | Hi, if I have a mail account provided by my ISP, should I answer 'no' when Reportbug asks me about the MTA? |
| 18:58.11 | Maulkin | MrBIOS: And can you calm down too please? |
| 18:58.17 | xoz | MrBIOS: that means it did not use fb. it seems that your kernel automatically load the fb or radeonfb which is flaky. |
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| 18:59.08 | MrBIOS | xoz: that didn't work either, sadly |
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| 18:59.26 | MrBIOS | xoz: well it was being driven in text mode at 1024x768 which means it was using the fb |
| 18:59.38 | MrBIOS | I know what the display on radeonfb/aty128fb looks like |
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| 18:59.44 | xoz | MrBIOS: yep. its the fb the sucks. |
| 19:00.17 | xoz | MrBIOS: you have to disable it either removing the /lib/modules/... containing that module so that auto load cannot find it. |
| 19:00.25 | pim | The setup of /etc/network/interfaces is: http://pastebin.com/m77a0a257 |
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| 19:00.53 | MrBIOS | xoz: okay, will do that in rescue mode |
| 19:00.58 | xoz | MrBIOS: i have to do this with some graphics card. otherwise the auto detection hw will load it. |
| 19:01.19 | iShock | Anyone here have an idea why Windows will not read this Debian disk, but my linux box will |
| 19:01.34 | xorl` | lol |
| 19:01.35 | hioii | iShock: do you have samaba setup? |
| 19:01.38 | CeleronBrain | iShock: Did you burn it yourself? |
| 19:01.44 | iShock | CeleronBrain Yeah |
| 19:01.52 | xoz | MrBIOS: delete all mods with fb on it... i think there are 3 related fbs being loaded. you can survive without fb anyway. |
| 19:01.55 | CeleronBrain | iShock: Is it ISO9660? |
| 19:02.01 | iShock | Yeah. |
| 19:02.02 | cahoot | iShock: there used to be a bug in wodim |
| 19:02.12 | iShock | cahoot, I burned it with K3b |
| 19:02.55 | xoz | iShock: and the contents in linux is ok? with files/folders readble? |
| 19:02.57 | cahoot | k3b is just a frontend |
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| 19:04.57 | iShock | Anyone have any ideas? |
| 19:05.27 | xoz | iShock: answer first the question? what is the content of your dvd seen in liinux? |
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| 19:05.46 | iShock | xoz, it appears fine. |
| 19:05.52 | xoz | iShock: what did you burn? |
| 19:06.10 | iShock | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r5/i386/iso-cd/debian-40r5-i386-netinst.iso |
| 19:06.15 | xoz | iShock: that is vague. we cannot read your mind. if you want help, provide info |
| 19:06.37 | xoz | iShock: what is the content? still iso image or files and folders? |
| 19:06.47 | iShock | files and folders .. |
| 19:07.00 | cahoot | why should you want windows to 'read ' that? |
| 19:07.05 | xoz | iShock: can you boot from it? |
| 19:07.22 | iShock | xoz, no, that's the problem, the other lappy won't detect it at all |
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| 19:07.33 | xoz | lappy? |
| 19:07.38 | iShock | Laptop .. |
| 19:07.50 | iShock | The one that window's can't read the Cd |
| 19:07.54 | xoz | what about the pther lappy? |
| 19:08.02 | cahoot | iShock: burn a new using wodim, first check md3sums |
| 19:08.03 | iShock | I need to boot from the Debian CD on that one |
| 19:08.06 | cahoot | md5 |
| 19:08.17 | iShock | cahoot, I checked them, it burned fine. |
| 19:08.24 | xoz | iShock: i think time to toast your dvd reader... or maybe you are reading a dvd from a cd reader |
| 19:08.34 | iShock | It's a CD-RW |
| 19:08.47 | xoz | iShock: and you are uusing DVD-R. darn |
| 19:08.55 | iShock | No, I'm not. |
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| 19:09.00 | iShock | I found a CD-RW downstairs |
| 19:09.14 | SystemFAILURE | h e l l o |
| 19:09.29 | iShock | d i e i n a h o l e |
| 19:09.34 | xoz | iShock: so it must be the reader problem. cannot boot, cannot read from windows... |
| 19:09.37 | SystemFAILURE | lol |
| 19:09.44 | iShock | xoz, any thing I can do? |
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| 19:09.56 | xoz | iShock: if it can boot in another lappy, then it is the reader. |
| 19:10.12 | iShock | Any way to check the reader? |
| 19:10.15 | ZeBot | hey guys is there a simple way to insatll php 4 mysql 4.1 debian 4.0 |
| 19:10.16 | CeleronBrain | iShock: Older CD-ROM drives may not be able to read a CD-RW (try a CD-R disk). |
| 19:10.18 | xoz | iShock: use netinstall by PXE to install debian. |
| 19:10.24 | iShock | PXE? |
| 19:10.33 | CeleronBrain | iShock: Network boot. |
| 19:10.35 | xoz | iShock: network install |
| 19:10.36 | L1337ne55 | Anyone seen elite? |
| 19:10.49 | CeleronBrain | L1337ne55: Elite parted. |
| 19:10.52 | iShock | Use netinstall by network install? ... |
| 19:10.56 | L1337ne55 | Ok |
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| 19:11.07 | xoz | iShock: either you buy an external cdreader or use network install. |
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| 19:11.24 | iShock | Where can I find the network install? |
| 19:11.38 | adb | iShock: http://goodbye-microsoft.com/ |
| 19:12.01 | bluethundr | what's a good IRC channel for questions about problems with Lenny? |
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| 19:12.21 | onetinsoldier | hi. can anyone help me get 'icewm-gome' to start with the 'startx' command on console terminal? i do not have gdm installed. i set the x-session-manager to 'gnome-session' with the 'update-alternatives --config x-session-manager' command. what needs to be in my ~/.xsession file? if i put 'exec icewm-gnome' in it i get the metacity window manager, not icewm-gnome |
| 19:13.18 | onetinsoldier | bluethundr, this one? |
| 19:13.35 | MrBIOS | xoz: I actually think I see the problem |
| 19:13.47 | MrBIOS | there's no aty128fb.ko at all in my kernel/drivers/video directory |
| 19:13.51 | MrBIOS | hence the epic fail |
| 19:13.52 | onetinsoldier | bluethundr, i would think this is the channel you'd want |
| 19:13.56 | bluethundr | heh.. cool. I thought this was just a discussion server.. silly me |
| 19:13.59 | bluethundr | nice |
| 19:14.02 | bluethundr | at any rate |
| 19:14.10 | bluethundr | I tried installing sasl |
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| 19:14.30 | bluethundr | and since then, I can no longer telnet into my machine on 25 |
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| 19:14.40 | onetinsoldier | bluethundr, so, you're a sendmail guy? hehe |
| 19:14.59 | bluethundr | it accepts the connection reports the IP but then closes the connection |
| 19:15.03 | CeleronBrain | bluethundr: Telnet? I hope his is a home LAN. :) |
| 19:15.09 | bluethundr | heh.. hardly. just came from exim |
| 19:15.15 | bluethundr | yes, this is a home lan. :) |
| 19:15.18 | onetinsoldier | roger |
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| 19:16.06 | bluethundr | but what's weird |
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| 19:16.17 | bluethundr | is that I can telnet onto port 110 and test out pop and it works flawlessly |
| 19:16.27 | bluethundr | it's only 25 that is closing the connection |
| 19:16.28 | xoz | iShock: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Network-Install-HOWTO.html |
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| 19:17.10 | iShock | What about http://goodbye-microsoft.com/ ? |
| 19:17.15 | Octalot | onetinsoldier: try ~/.xinitrc instead of ~/.xsession |
| 19:17.42 | onetinsoldier | Octalot, ok... lemme try that. brb |
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| 19:18.14 | xoz | MrBIOS: maybe. but i still think the fb is a mess. better avoid fb. |
| 19:18.31 | bluethundr | anybody have any leads on why I might be able to telnet on 110 but not 25/ |
| 19:18.33 | bluethundr | ? |
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| 19:18.52 | xoz | MrBIOS: console interaction is much solid without fb. fb makes resolution better but more often very slow. |
| 19:19.04 | MrBIOS | agreed |
| 19:19.06 | MrBIOS | but in my case it won't boot |
| 19:19.14 | MrBIOS | and it does with the framebuffer |
| 19:19.39 | xoz | MrBIOS: kill all the framebuffer mods. |
| 19:19.55 | MrBIOS | xoz: they only exist for cards not in this machine |
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| 19:20.15 | MrBIOS | kill them anyways? |
| 19:20.30 | xoz | MrBIOS: yep. remove them. no need to use fb. |
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| 19:20.46 | xoz | MrBIOS: fb is just a virtual thing... |
| 19:21.05 | CeleronBrain | On Macs, Framebuffer is the only way to get a console in Linux. |
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| 19:21.31 | onetinsoldier | Octalot, doesn't work. i end up back at the console command prompt... which is actually the same thing that happens if the file is named .xsession |
| 19:21.41 | xoz | MrBIOS: find . -iname fb /lib/modules |
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| 19:21.58 | xoz | MrBIOS: there are 2 generic fbs there you need to remove. |
| 19:22.04 | MrBIOS | xoz: yep, removed, I am rebooting now |
| 19:22.05 | MrBIOS | which ones? |
| 19:22.07 | xoz | MrBIOS: not specific to the machine |
| 19:22.09 | MrBIOS | (the generics) |
| 19:22.23 | xoz | MrBIOS: those with no hw names. |
| 19:22.33 | MrBIOS | they're all in video/? |
| 19:23.15 | xoz | MrBIOS: find . -iname "*fb*" |
| 19:23.23 | xoz | MrBIOS: i think in drivers/video/ |
| 19:23.31 | MrBIOS | done, still the same problem |
| 19:23.39 | CeleronBrain | Elite is back in ##programming :( |
| 19:23.47 | MrBIOS | celeronbrain: /ignore |
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| 19:23.55 | _moro_bana_ | is there a 64-bit debian for intel ?,because I have only seen amd-64 debian.I know it runs on intel , just interested |
| 19:24.03 | xoz | MrBIOS: can you tell us what is the last message before the screen blank? |
| 19:24.25 | MrBIOS | sure, DMT Delta read from XPRAM |
| 19:24.28 | xoz | MrBIOS: what you can do also is to use the kernel of the install cd and cp its /lib/modules/<image> |
| 19:24.29 | MrBIOS | GMT rather |
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| 19:24.40 | xoz | MrBIOS: just to have console. |
| 19:24.40 | MrBIOS | yeah, I tried looking for it |
| 19:25.08 | MrBIOS | xoz: I can also get a console with network access and chroot off the install CD, so I can build my own kernel there |
| 19:25.37 | xoz | MrBIOS: yes. ii think there is a module that fcks your machine |
| 19:25.51 | Octalot | onetinsoldier: sorry, haven't got more info for you |
| 19:26.00 | onetinsoldier | Octalot, roger, thanks for trying |
| 19:26.00 | xoz | MrBIOS: copy the config... and make oldconfig... and use make-kpkg |
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| 19:26.33 | xoz | MrBIOS: you need to know what module is loaded that kills your screen. try dmesg |
| 19:26.41 | xoz | MrBIOS: and systlog |
| 19:28.24 | xoz | MrBIOS: it would be nice if your make syslog be very verbose and send the output to yyour other machine. |
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| 19:29.26 | MrBIOS | neither provides anything telling, yes, I'd have to log remotely |
| 19:30.40 | xoz | qotd78 |
| 19:30.52 | xoz | !qotd78 |
| 19:30.52 | dpkg | from memory, qotd78 is <BiZARRE> why cant I type my password when I try to login? <Phated> BiZARRE: Your password isn't echoed to the console. <BiZARRE> what? <BiZARRE> well, how do I type in the password? <Seb> BiZARRE: you hit the keys one by one <BiZARRE> nothing happens when I hit the keys <paulswm> UNtil you hit 'enter' <BiZARRE> the only key working is enter <BiZARRE> ok |
| 19:30.59 | xoz | haha |
| 19:31.14 | MrBIOS | hehe |
| 19:31.25 | MrBIOS | sadly, I've had that sort of discussion |
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| 19:33.41 | ZeBot | hey guys to install mysql 4.1 and php 4 via apt do you think im better off downgrading debian? |
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| 19:34.39 | kqr | suddenly, when i try to watch a film through either vlc or totem, the video is green but the audio's there, why's that? :S |
| 19:34.48 | pablo | hi, what does when it says package-unstripped means? i mean what does it make reference to? a package with little dependencies? |
| 19:34.51 | l403 | hi guys. The rootfs on wikipedia redirects to Debian. I dont know what itt means but think UNIX Filesystem Hierarchy Standard is more apropriate redirect? Is that right? |
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| 19:35.55 | peterrooney | ZeBot: does something your application depends on break between mysql 4.1 and mysql 5.0 ? |
| 19:36.13 | ZeBot | yes |
| 19:36.18 | l403 | kqr: the green might be a mask for the video outputt which might switched to a wrong one |
| 19:36.26 | xoz | MrBIOS: i think it is a common problem for ppc g3. |
| 19:36.36 | kqr | l403: aha? :S |
| 19:36.39 | ZeBot | i need 4.1 and php 4 im runing out outdated scripts its priv stuff firewalled etc |
| 19:36.48 | Polarina | How do I set gdm to run on startup? |
| 19:37.18 | l403 | kqr: not sure though, try swithing to a differentt one |
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| 19:37.26 | peterrooney | Polarina: dpkg-reconfigure gdm |
| 19:37.28 | kqr | l403: where? |
| 19:37.43 | Polarina | peterrooney: Thank you. |
| 19:38.02 | ZeBot | can i just downgrade debian? |
| 19:38.05 | peterrooney | Polarina: you're welcome. |
| 19:38.11 | dirk` | !downgrade |
| 19:38.11 | dpkg | methinks downgrade is not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later, and package maintainer scripts provide ways to upgrade to new config file formats but not ways to downgrade. You can always try to downgrade a package using dpkg -i <olderversion.deb>. Also see <partial downgrade>, or <sdn> |
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| 19:39.15 | l403 | kqr: nont familiarr with vlc. it doesnt work for me. I use MPlayer |
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| 19:40.22 | kqr | l403: i'll try using mplayer :P |
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| 19:41.02 | pablo | hi, what does when it says package-unstripped means? i mean what does it make reference to? a package with little dependencies? |
| 19:41.04 | zxcx | hi, i have pure-ftpd .21 compiled from sources on debian4 64bit, it seems i can't set user quota size higher than 1024KB, i've tried everything with config file, it sets max file numer properly but never total file size |
| 19:41.16 | kqr | l403: so how do i change video output in mplayer? :S |
| 19:41.53 | cahoot | mplayer -vo help |
| 19:42.21 | MrBIOS | what is the debian package name for ncurses-devel these days? |
| 19:42.26 | l403 | kqr, try the settinigs and videeo tab and tryout thhe drivers |
| 19:42.50 | pablo | cahoot: what would the libavcodec-unstripped have? |
| 19:43.00 | l403 | kqr: thinik you need to restart player for changese to tatke effect |
| 19:43.10 | kqr | hmm |
| 19:43.13 | karvus | I'm trying to install Debian on a CD-less notebook (MSI Wind), and have gotten as far as booting off my USB flashdrive, and the installation program starts. However, it fails with "The CD-ROM drive contains a CD which cannot be used for installation." The CD-drive it refers to is a small partition on the pendrive that reports itself as a CD, that I can't change. and I can't figure out how to make it use the netinst.iso that I've put on the pendrive parti |
| 19:43.14 | onetinsoldier | MrBIOS, libncurses5-dev |
| 19:43.27 | kqr | i think, this might have occurred while fiddling with video drivers |
| 19:43.27 | MrBIOS | it says it cant find that package name |
| 19:43.27 | kqr | :P |
| 19:43.32 | MrBIOS | libncurses5 itself is installed |
| 19:43.56 | karvus | libncurses5-dev? |
| 19:44.03 | MrBIOS | it cant find the package |
| 19:44.13 | MrBIOS | do I need to enable a repository? |
| 19:44.47 | onetinsoldier | i am using Lenny, Debian 5.0 dpkg -l '*ncurses*' ii libncurses5-dev 5.6+20080830-1 |
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| 19:46.13 | MrBIOS | I have no libncurses5-dev when I do the same with dpkg |
| 19:46.28 | xsdg | MrBIOS: what branch are you on? |
| 19:46.31 | MrBIOS | I do have a libncurses-dev but it says its not available but is referred to by another package |
| 19:46.40 | MrBIOS | 4.0 |
| 19:46.59 | xsdg | MrBIOS: err.. what name? Also, you may want to try switching sources |
| 19:47.25 | l403 | hi guys. The rootfs on wikipedia redirects to Debian. I dont know what itt means but think UNIX Filesystem Hierarchy Standard is more apropriate redirect? Is that right? |
| 19:47.36 | MrBIOS | where is that config file? I haven't used debian in ~7ish years |
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| 19:47.47 | xsdg | MrBIOS: /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 19:48.12 | xsdg | Does anyone know if FF Minefield is simply incompatible with plugins for firefox 3.0.x? If not, is there a way to force it to try using plugins that don't yet claim compatibility? |
| 19:50.11 | MrBIOS | how can I tell if I'm using etch? |
| 19:50.33 | onetinsoldier | uname -a |
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| 19:50.43 | xsdg | MrBIOS: in your sources.list, there should be either a codename or "unstable/testing/stable" listed |
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| 19:50.49 | onetinsoldier | nope.. sorry |
| 19:50.56 | onetinsoldier | i gav wrong answer |
| 19:50.59 | xsdg | MrBIOS: also, cat /etc/debian_version |
| 19:51.29 | ZeBot | hey guys when im trying to install mysql-server-4.1 on etch 64bit im getting this error |
| 19:51.30 | ZeBot | Note: selecting "mysql-server-5.0" instead of the |
| 19:51.30 | ZeBot | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:51.38 | ZeBot | oops sorry for the 2line past |
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| 19:51.55 | xsdg | ZeBot: I think you're discovering that mysql sucks in certain ways |
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| 19:52.11 | xsdg | ZeBot: I would imagine that 4.1 just isn't available for etch 64-bit. I could be completely wrong, though |
| 19:52.33 | xsdg | ZeBot: (the most likely culprit would be that 4.1 isn't 64-bit clean, but 5.0 is) |
| 19:52.41 | ZeBot | can i swtich from 64bit os to 32 without reinstalling cuz im on a vps and the vps only installs 64bit |
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| 19:53.48 | onetinsoldier | can anyone help me get 'icewm-gome' to start with the 'startx' command on console terminal? i do not have gdm installed. i set the x-session-manager to 'gnome-session' with the 'update-alternatives --config x-session-manager' command. what needs to be in my ~/.xsession file? if i put 'exec icewm-gnome' in it i end up back at the console command prompt(no x-windows). the same thing happens if i name the file .xinitrc instead |
| 19:53.48 | onetinsoldier | of .xsession. |
| 19:53.53 | xsdg | ZeBot: not really, no. A 64-bit kernel can run with a 32-bit userspace, but to switch userspace from 64-bit to 32-bit, you'd have to swap out /lib, /usr/lib, /bin, /sbin, and all that stuff |
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| 19:54.37 | xsdg | ZeBot: so you could do it manually, but you'd basically be doing the equivalent of a manual reinstall. And you'd have to watch out for issues with moving libraries that the apps you're using (like `ls` and `cp`) will want to find |
| 19:54.37 | ZeBot | the system only has ssh on it so far |
| 19:54.49 | ZeBot | im open to doing whatever ti takes to get mysql 4.1 |
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| 19:55.08 | xsdg | ZeBot: first things first, ask in #mysql |
| 19:55.17 | xsdg | (or wherever it is that they do support) |
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| 20:05.36 | htmlol | quick question- what's the file which lists all the modules to be loaded at system startup? |
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| 20:06.16 | rto | htmlol: I think you are looking for /etc/modules |
| 20:06.35 | visik7 | usally empty |
| 20:07.01 | htmlol | yes, that's it rto, thanks :) |
| 20:07.13 | rto | np |
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| 20:09.33 | qwesp | hello |
| 20:09.46 | onetinsoldier | howdy |
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| 20:10.29 | qwesp | i've installed debian net-install without any network cards connected. now i put a card in. how could i redetect network card? |
| 20:11.00 | maligor | should be automatic |
| 20:11.14 | maligor | need to add it to /etc/network/interfaces |
| 20:11.44 | maligor | the udev setup tries to keep the device names constant so it'll be eth1 |
| 20:12.02 | maligor | oh, no network cards.. heh, eth0 then |
| 20:12.11 | onetinsoldier | perhaps dpkg-reconfigure ifupdown? |
| 20:12.42 | onetinsoldier | i dunno for with any certainty tho |
| 20:12.53 | qwesp | onetinsoldier: please specify a package to reconfigure, he said |
| 20:13.09 | onetinsoldier | ifupdown would be the package |
| 20:13.20 | onetinsoldier | is it installed? |
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| 20:14.41 | qwesp | onetinsoldier: i did: dpkg-reconfigure ifupdown. no errors, no message. |
| 20:15.03 | qwesp | ifconfig /a lists some eth0 |
| 20:15.28 | qwesp | but ifup eth0: Ignoring unkown interface eth0=eth0 |
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| 20:16.23 | qwesp | i could go through the steps of installation, starting at the step of detecting network card |
| 20:16.31 | qwesp | i guess there is no driver eyt |
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| 20:16.36 | maligor | no need |
| 20:16.36 | qwesp | yet |
| 20:16.45 | maligor | but you can if you like |
| 20:16.57 | Polarina | How do I set acpi-support not to install nvclock? |
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| 20:17.30 | maligor | qwesp, it should work if you just add 'auto eth0' and 'iface eth0 inet dhcp' |
| 20:17.38 | maligor | in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 20:18.04 | maligor | well, I guess it depends on how much it's done already |
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| 20:18.42 | qwesp | maligor: i will try |
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| 20:18.59 | qwesp | maligor: then, restart network i guess |
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| 20:20.22 | qwesp | maligor: great! it seems to work |
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| 20:22.24 | qwesp | thanx |
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| 20:23.45 | onetinsoldier | hi. can anyone help me get 'icewm-gnome' (package name in lenny is icewm-gnome-support) to start with the 'startx' command on console terminal? i do not have gdm installed. i set the x-session-manager to 'gnome-session' with the 'update-alternatives --config x-session-manager' command. what needs to be in my ~/.xinitrc file? if i put 'exec icewm-gnome' in it i end up back at the console command prompt(no x-windows). the same |
| 20:23.45 | onetinsoldier | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:24.28 | \r\n\r\n\r\n | etch is the testable branch? |
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| 20:24.43 | onetinsoldier | no... lenny is |
| 20:24.46 | rogerb | do i need to down load the firmware somewhere for the bcm4312 wireless card in debian lenny? |
| 20:25.38 | adb | !b43 |
| 20:25.38 | dpkg | from memory, b43 is the new driver for modern Broadcom 802.11g wireless chipsets (http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43), included in Linux since 2.6.24. Use <b43-fwcutter> to extract version 4 firmware for this driver. USB devices are not supported (for 4320, see <rndis_wlan>). 802.11b-only devices and BCM4306 rev 2 are rather supported by the <b43legacy> driver. |
| 20:25.51 | rogerb | thanks |
| 20:25.55 | adb | np |
| 20:26.35 | lem0n | hmm, is there any way for BIND to return entries that you have in /etc/hosts to clients using the server to resolve? |
| 20:26.45 | lem0n | (with recursive lookups turned on, if that matters) |
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| 20:27.09 | lem0n | so for example if i added espn.com in /etc/hosts to 1.2.3.4, bind would return 1.2.3.4 for someone trying to resolve espn.com, but normal entries for everything else |
| 20:27.53 | Polarina | Is toshset known to work on any other laptops than Toshiba? |
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| 20:35.59 | MrBIOS | weird: "WARNING: no utmp entry available and LOGNAME not defined" |
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| 20:36.08 | MrBIOS | when running make-kpkg |
| 20:37.18 | FredZ | I am wanting to run up to 4 instances of debian on a single server (I assume this is virtualisation). Would xen be a reasonable solution? I obviously have no clues about this. This is going to be our email solution for a small/medium enterprise. |
| 20:37.50 | Polarina | Is toshset known to work on any other laptops than Toshiba? |
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| 20:39.20 | thechef | I see messages in dmesg like: "rpcbind: server localhost not responding, timed out" and '/etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server start' hangs. What's wrong here. I haven't done any changes to the system except replacing the mainboard and using another network card |
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| 20:42.34 | jorgp | can I use rsync to update a debian cd from say beta1 to beta2 without having to download the entire cd again? |
| 20:42.55 | witte | !jigdo |
| 20:42.55 | dpkg | well, jigdo is *the* method for downloading CD/DVD/BD images of Debian. at http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/ or http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Debian-Jigdo/index.html |
| 20:43.04 | witte | jorgp: ^^ |
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| 20:43.41 | witte | jorgp: but installing and doing an update and upgrade would give you the same system |
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| 20:43.48 | jorgp | ok, that works, but what about a cd other then debian |
| 20:44.01 | jorgp | witte: true |
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| 20:44.22 | witte | jorgp: what do you mean with other then debian? |
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| 20:46.07 | jorgp | witte: well, I am using a linux based rescue cd and they come out with new betas all the time, so instead of downloading the cd over and over, I thought I could use rsync on the .iso file |
| 20:46.08 | Polarina | Is toshset known to work on any other laptops than Toshiba? |
| 20:46.33 | witte | Polarina: probably not |
| 20:46.53 | Polarina | witte: Any other known software that works on generally every laptop? |
| 20:46.54 | witte | jorgp: in that case i am not certain |
| 20:47.17 | adb | !laptop |
| 20:47.18 | dpkg | All there is worth knowing about linux and laptops can be found at http://www.linux-laptop.net/ and http://tuxmobil.org/ Also ask me about <acpi> and <suspend>, or see the debian-laptop mailing list at http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/ For Thinkpads, ask me about <thinkpad>. See also <laptop mode>. <netbook> |
| 20:47.29 | Polarina | adb, dpkg: Thanks. |
| 20:47.38 | adb | np |
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| 20:48.06 | onetinsoldier | jorgp, if the server you get the iso from uses rsync, then maybe you could? i don't know either |
| 20:48.08 | jorgp | witte: the site is http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page, I thought that I could save bandwidth by not downloading the entire cd over and over |
| 20:49.34 | jorgp | i'm doing this on my debian machine, but the sysrecuse is gentoo based, so maybe I should ask there |
| 20:49.52 | Flexa | |
| 20:49.53 | Flexa | I have a problem |
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| 20:50.04 | witte | jorgp: try also grml, which is debian based and also a good rescue cd |
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| 20:50.26 | jorgp | oh thanks, I was looking for a debian based rescue cd |
| 20:50.37 | witte | jorgp: there is also knoppix... |
| 20:51.01 | jorgp | yeah, but it is really aging |
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| 20:51.23 | witte | jorgp: ah, last time i used that was years ago |
| 20:52.44 | jorgp | yeah I know |
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| 20:53.20 | ross`_ | can someone tell em what this error means please: http://mythcoding.com |
| 20:53.23 | jorgp | grml looks like something I would like to look into, systemrescue is gentoo based, but they have lots of linux utils for windows repair |
| 20:53.25 | ross`_ | can someone tell em what this error means please: http://mythcoding.net/error |
| 20:53.27 | ross`_ | * |
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| 20:55.01 | Flexa | people I have a problem |
| 20:55.08 | dfgas | is there a special channel for sid? |
| 20:55.13 | witte | Flexa: did you already tell us? |
| 20:55.18 | Flexa | The recording of the CD ISOs |
| 20:55.33 | Flexa | The recording gives some |
| 20:55.40 | ross`_ | can someone help me with this error: http://mythcoding.net/error |
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| 20:55.45 | ross`_ | that would be great :( |
| 20:55.48 | Flexa | However the installation an error occurs |
| 20:55.52 | onetinsoldier | dfgas, i don't think so. you've probably come to the right place |
| 20:56.02 | witte | dfgas: not really, but you can get answers such as: when you run sid, you should know better :-) |
| 20:56.19 | ross`_ | can someone help me |
| 20:56.22 | Flexa | Unpack in the directories of cd |
| 20:56.26 | onetinsoldier | yeah, and what witte said |
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| 20:56.55 | witte | ross`_: when do you get that error? |
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| 20:58.17 | dfgas | well alright i use ubuntu, can't stand the fact that i can't get bleeding edge software. (me and compiling is a no go) i want an os that has bleeding edge software |
| 20:58.18 | Flexa | witte do you help me? |
| 20:58.32 | dfgas | i heard that sid did so i was wondering if that was true |
| 20:58.41 | ross`_ | i get it everytime i run a GUI interfact program |
| 20:58.43 | ross`_ | the funnnything is |
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| 20:58.45 | ross`_ | vnc works fine |
| 20:58.47 | LeVA | hi |
| 20:58.49 | ross`_ | fluxbox inside vnc works fine |
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| 20:58.56 | ross`_ | but whenever i run gimp, firefox, etc etc |
| 20:58.58 | witte | Flexa: i do not really understand your problem |
| 20:59.00 | ross`_ | it gives that error |
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| 20:59.03 | ross`_ | witte: any ideas? |
| 20:59.15 | witte | ross`_: which debian are you running? |
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| 20:59.19 | ross`_ | etch |
| 20:59.26 | ross`_ | i just installed it too |
| 20:59.28 | ross`_ | .. |
| 20:59.29 | ross`_ | its weird |
| 20:59.43 | ross`_ | its a really powerful machine tho |
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| 20:59.48 | ross`_ | the hardware might not be suppored |
| 20:59.50 | ross`_ | supported |
| 20:59.53 | ross`_ | which is why that error shows up |
| 20:59.53 | dfgas | witte, what did you mean by that? |
| 20:59.54 | ross`_ | idk |
| 20:59.56 | ross`_ | i really dont know |
| 21:00.05 | Flexa | witte After recording the iso in the installation files that are missing |
| 21:00.11 | LeVA | why could it be, that I can not apt-search as a normal user (no output), but as root it can find packages? |
| 21:00.36 | onetinsoldier | dfgas, if you are very familiar and comfortable with linux overall, then you mmight be ok in sid. i used to run it, but that was years ago. preinst and postinst scripts were all bash shell scripts. i learned bashshell scripting and could solve install/uninstall problem. but i think they're mostly in perl now. so you might want to know perl too. |
| 21:00.58 | ross`_ | witte: you there? |
| 21:01.15 | witte | Flexa: so you burned a cd, and it fails when installing |
| 21:01.22 | witte | ross`_: try to install a newer kernel? |
| 21:01.27 | witte | !etchnhalf |
| 21:01.28 | dpkg | "etch + 1/2" -- an update to Debian's stable release "etch" designed to provide support for newer hardware. It includes a 2.6.24 kernel along with an updated installer. Release notes: http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/etchnhalf Installation instructions: http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/debian-installer/etchnhalf See also http://wiki.debian.org/EtchAndAHalf or <etchnhalf facts> |
| 21:01.39 | witte | ross`_: ^^ |
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| 21:02.15 | ross`_ | hmm |
| 21:02.16 | ross`_ | ok |
| 21:02.22 | onetinsoldier | dfgas, but yes. sid is bleeding edge and it works pretty often, but at the same time, stuff in it can be broken now and then, at the very least. |
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| 21:02.34 | ross`_ | what kernel |
| 21:02.35 | ross`_ | ? |
| 21:02.39 | ross`_ | witte: |
| 21:02.44 | ross`_ | tell me the command please |
| 21:02.47 | witte | dfgas: if you have to ask (and can't find it on the web) you shouldn't |
| 21:02.50 | Flexa | witte there is error in the reading of the installation files |
| 21:02.55 | ross`_ | cause apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade are all done |
| 21:03.13 | witte | ross`_: you should try the etchnhalf version of debian |
| 21:03.19 | witte | it has a 2.6.24 kernel |
| 21:03.41 | dfgas | onetinsoldier, darn, so, no nice installer, lol |
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| 21:04.02 | witte | ross`_: it not really the stable version, but an update and supported if i am correct |
| 21:04.21 | witte | ross`_: look at what dpkg told |
| 21:05.08 | onetinsoldier | ross`, i have a very new machine.. i installed Lenny without a hitch. and Lenny is currently frozen and will soon be the 'stable' version of debian. you might consider installing it instead. |
| 21:05.10 | witte | Flexa: probably the burning of the cd failed? or you have an other problem. As long as you don't give specific errors, we cant help |
| 21:05.15 | ross`_ | so wait |
| 21:05.19 | ross`_ | so i want an older kernel |
| 21:05.20 | ross`_ | or a newer one |
| 21:05.32 | witte | ross`_: you want a newer |
| 21:05.36 | ross`_ | ok |
| 21:05.41 | ross`_ | can i get it with apt-get update? |
| 21:05.56 | onetinsoldier | dfgas, what do you mean? |
| 21:06.00 | witte | ross`_: yes, but you need to change /etc/apt/sources.list first |
| 21:06.04 | ross`_ | oh ok |
| 21:06.14 | ross`_ | what do i change it too |
| 21:06.14 | ross`_ | ? |
| 21:06.14 | adb | ross`: unane - r , said what |
| 21:06.14 | witte | ross`_: http://wiki.debian.org/EtchAndAHalf |
| 21:06.16 | adb | ? |
| 21:06.23 | ross`_ | can you tell me tho |
| 21:06.26 | ross`_ | why the normal thing isnt working |
| 21:06.27 | ross`_ | on my box |
| 21:06.28 | ross`_ | ? |
| 21:06.34 | ross`_ | is my box too awesome |
| 21:06.35 | onetinsoldier | dfgas, i always use the net installer to install debian. doesn't matter.. stable, testing, unstable(sid)... |
| 21:07.15 | ross`_ | etch-proposed-updates |
| 21:07.19 | ross`_ | so just add that part |
| 21:07.22 | ross`_ | to my deb lines |
| 21:07.24 | ross`_ | ? |
| 21:07.27 | witte | ross`_: the 2.6.18 kernel is two years old, if you have that, newer devices are not yet recognized |
| 21:07.37 | ross`_ | ok |
| 21:07.37 | ross`_ | so |
| 21:07.40 | witte | ross`_: change etch to etch-proposed updates |
| 21:07.41 | ross`_ | what do i add |
| 21:07.44 | ross`_ | ahh ok |
| 21:07.47 | ross`_ | so |
| 21:07.53 | onetinsoldier | ross`, i really think you should install lenny... |
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| 21:08.17 | witte | ross`_: onetinsoldier's recommandation is also worth considering |
| 21:08.19 | ross`_ | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ etch-proposed-updates main |
| 21:08.19 | ross`_ | deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ etch-proposed-updates main |
| 21:08.22 | ross`_ | will that work? |
| 21:08.26 | witte | yes |
| 21:08.29 | dfgas | onetinsoldier, well you were saying something about running scripts pre-install and post-install of sid |
| 21:08.43 | onetinsoldier | ross`, i have a very new machine.. i installed Lenny without a hitch. |
| 21:09.17 | onetinsoldier | i put this sytem together like 3 weeks ago |
| 21:09.22 | onetinsoldier | system* |
| 21:09.36 | dfgas | onetinsoldier, i love deb, with rpm i would have dependency issues and stuff, ubuntu is the first one where i didn't have alot of them issues but they don't run bleeding edge, its usually like a few weeks old or what not |
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| 21:10.03 | ross`_ | dude, i still get the same error |
| 21:10.10 | ross`_ | it didnt update my kernel |
| 21:10.11 | Flexa | witte the record is successfully |
| 21:10.11 | ross`_ | :( |
| 21:10.16 | ross`_ | it updated some other stuff |
| 21:10.18 | ross`_ | but not my kernel |
| 21:10.22 | ross`_ | what do i type now |
| 21:10.29 | Flexa | witte the site is an error that occurs when the unpacking |
| 21:10.29 | ross`_ | apt-get install linux-kernel |
| 21:10.31 | ross`_ | or somat |
| 21:10.40 | witte | ross`_: yes, like that |
| 21:10.43 | ross`_ | ok |
| 21:10.44 | onetinsoldier | dfgas, ok. did you read what i said earlier? what i was trying to say is not that you want have any nice gui(synaptic for instance) or command line(aptitude) package managers... |
| 21:10.45 | ross`_ | what one do i want |
| 21:10.49 | Flexa | witte Soon after the selection of the keyboard indioma |
| 21:10.53 | onetinsoldier | want = won't |
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| 21:11.13 | witte | Flexa: what errors can you see when you do alt-F4 |
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| 21:11.32 | ross`_ | witte: ? |
| 21:11.46 | onetinsoldier | dfgas, what i am saying is... be prepared for the install and uninstall scripts to have problems now and then.. requiring you to intervene and fix them |
| 21:11.46 | witte | ross`_: apt-cache search linux-image-2.6.24 |
| 21:11.53 | witte | ross`_: and the one for your machine... |
| 21:11.56 | ross`_ | ok :) |
| 21:11.58 | ross`_ | thanks so much dude |
| 21:12.02 | Flexa | witte |
| 21:12.03 | Flexa | The absence of some libs |
| 21:12.15 | dfgas | onetinsoldier, ok :D i thought you meant to installing sid |
| 21:12.28 | dfgas | ughh, lol |
| 21:12.32 | witte | Flexa: i really can't see your screen from here... |
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| 21:13.21 | ross`_ | ok, i got the image |
| 21:13.26 | ross`_ | do i need the header file too |
| 21:13.29 | onetinsoldier | dfgas, roger... be prepared for some of those scripts to possibly be broken when installing.. then you have to fix the broken script or do whatever it takes to get the package installed and show up as installed... so that the installation prcoess can continue.. now, with that said |
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| 21:13.45 | onetinsoldier | dfgas, it is possible you won't run into any problem at all |
| 21:13.56 | witte | ross`_: you shouldn't need the header in most cases. You need to reboot to test |
| 21:14.16 | onetinsoldier | but that is less likely.. you will likely run into an install problem, imo |
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| 21:14.48 | ross`_ | ok, tahnks so much! brb! |
| 21:14.54 | onetinsoldier | but if you know perl and bash shell scripting, then you can probably fix it.. and there are other ways to get around such problems |
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| 21:15.02 | dfgas | onetinsoldier, thinking about trying it |
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| 21:15.38 | onetinsoldier | dfgas, roger.. i wish you luck if you do... heck, i'd probably try out sid again myself if i knew perl |
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| 21:17.14 | ross`_ | ok witte im testing it now !@.@ |
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| 21:17.49 | adb | onetinsoldier: don't need any perl knowledge to run sid |
| 21:18.21 | onetinsoldier | adb, hmmm, what language are the install and uninstall scripts written in? |
| 21:18.27 | ross`_ | dude |
| 21:18.30 | ross`_ | i still get the same error |
| 21:18.36 | ross`_ | http://mythcoding.net/error |
| 21:18.41 | ross`_ | witte: do you know why :( |
| 21:18.46 | onetinsoldier | adb, for .deb packages? |
| 21:19.19 | adb | yes |
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| 21:19.34 | Misterjos | i'm in testing, and i like to use vlc for my video, however, it doesnt give me video output, someone solved that problem? |
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| 21:19.48 | witte | ross`_: it has something to do with cairo, are you running compiz or so? |
| 21:20.09 | gromeo | hey guys, I'm just thinking, is it possible to get a list of all installed packages on a system for later apt-get installing them all if the system gets trashed? |
| 21:20.16 | Misterjos | error is: no suitable codec, but codecs are installed and work fine for other video players |
| 21:20.42 | witte | gromeo: dpgk --get-selection |
| 21:21.24 | onetinsoldier | gromeo, ^^ dpkg --get-selections and dpkf --set-selection |
| 21:21.42 | onetinsoldier | oops... dpkkf = dpkg, of course |
| 21:22.13 | witte | gromeo: yeah, onetinsoldier is correct, dpkg --get-selections (and not the double typo thing i wrote earlier) |
| 21:22.16 | onetinsoldier | damnit... and they end with an 's' --set-selections |
| 21:22.33 | onetinsoldier | i'm goddamn typo'ing too, hehe |
| 21:22.44 | ross`_ | witte: |
| 21:22.44 | witte | ross`_: aptitude install --reinstall libcairo2 |
| 21:22.46 | ross`_ | idk |
| 21:23.00 | witte | ross`_: and which window manager are you using? |
| 21:23.13 | ross`_ | that command doest wrk |
| 21:23.14 | ross`_ | fluxbox? |
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| 21:23.18 | gromeo | THANK YOU ! |
| 21:23.24 | ross`_ | but |
| 21:23.27 | ross`_ | it didnt work before either |
| 21:23.31 | ross`_ | i tried loading vnc without anythign |
| 21:23.33 | ross`_ | and i tried it |
| 21:23.34 | ross`_ | got the error |
| 21:23.37 | ross`_ | then i loaded fluxbox |
| 21:23.38 | ross`_ | and still go tit |
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| 21:23.44 | ross`_ | and that command didnt work |
| 21:24.11 | witte | ross`_: define didn't work |
| 21:24.21 | ross`_ | ? |
| 21:24.23 | ross`_ | no |
| 21:24.26 | ross`_ | aptitude reisntall |
| 21:24.27 | ross`_ | or w/e |
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| 21:24.52 | ross`_ | :( |
| 21:25.15 | onetinsoldier | apt-get install --reinstall libcairo2 try that one... might work |
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| 21:25.29 | ross`_ | that worked moment |
| 21:25.34 | ross`_ | same error |
| 21:25.40 | witte | ross`_: which error? |
| 21:25.44 | onetinsoldier | what's the error? |
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| 21:26.30 | thechef | I want to install portmap, but it keeps hanging.. why?? |
| 21:26.35 | thechef | it keeps hanging at install |
| 21:26.41 | ross`_ | http://mythcoding.net/error |
| 21:26.42 | thechef | probably right when it wants to start it |
| 21:26.43 | ross`_ | that error |
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| 21:26.48 | adb | ross`: try libcairo2 on bts |
| 21:27.14 | onetinsoldier | bts = bug tracking system |
| 21:27.24 | witte | ross`_: you get that error when running a command line command? |
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| 21:28.57 | adb | thechef: how you tried to install portmap ? |
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| 21:29.00 | thechef | I have inconsistent package settings as it says that i have to run dpkg --configure -a, however this command exits saying that portmap is in a really bad state |
| 21:29.18 | witte | thechef: which debian version? |
| 21:29.22 | thechef | and that I have to install portmap |
| 21:29.26 | thechef | it's etch |
| 21:29.32 | adb | what was the command ? |
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| 21:29.36 | thechef | and when I install portmap it keeps hanging forever |
| 21:29.40 | thechef | apt-get install portmap |
| 21:30.15 | thechef | "Vorbereiten zum Ersetzen von portmap 5-26 (durch .../archives/portmap_5-26_i386.deb) ..." <- it means preparing to replace portmap 6-26 with portmap 6-26 |
| 21:30.18 | thechef | sorry.. 5-26 |
| 21:30.31 | thechef | and there it hangs forever, it seems |
| 21:30.32 | ross`_ | ok |
| 21:30.34 | ross`_ | this is bull |
| 21:30.38 | ross`_ | i cant install anything |
| 21:30.53 | ross`_ | it removed a bunch of stuff |
| 21:30.59 | ross`_ | when i did apt-get remove libcairo2 |
| 21:31.06 | ross`_ | and now it wont let me reinstall firefox |
| 21:31.12 | ross`_ | says it cant install dependancies |
| 21:31.13 | ross`_ | wtf?!?!? |
| 21:31.27 | thechef | Why can't I remove a package that is in a "really bad state"? |
| 21:31.28 | witte | ross`_: give the full output in a pastebin (or on your site |
| 21:31.37 | ross`_ | ban |
| 21:31.38 | ross`_ | bah |
| 21:31.40 | onetinsoldier | the chef, i 'might' know ways to fix the dpkg problems(or at least i used to). but great care must be taken |
| 21:31.42 | ross`_ | thats difficult moment |
| 21:32.05 | thechef | onetinsoldier: okay, i can take care i guess :D |
| 21:32.35 | thechef | or at least i can fix things in the worst case |
| 21:32.40 | onetinsoldier | thechef, i know how to make dpkg show that portmap is not installed at all |
| 21:32.56 | thechef | when it is installed.. okay |
| 21:33.07 | onetinsoldier | thechef, however, it's been a long time, so iit will take a little time for me to go over it |
| 21:33.12 | ross`_ | ok witte |
| 21:33.16 | ross`_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:33.16 | thechef | well |
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| 21:33.37 | onetinsoldier | thechef, the first step is to make a backup of the following file... |
| 21:33.51 | thechef | maybe there is another approch onetinsoldier - I wonder why portmap hangs at install.. i guess that's the main problem because i don't really want to uninstall portmap |
| 21:34.00 | ross`_ | it wont let me install libgtk |
| 21:34.01 | witte | ross`_: don't use firefox, only iceweasel |
| 21:34.04 | ross`_ | YEA |
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| 21:34.05 | ross`_ | you dont get it |
| 21:34.07 | ross`_ | it wont let me install it |
| 21:34.12 | ross`_ | i've tried apt-get install EVERYTHING on taht list |
| 21:34.13 | witte | ross`_: but that is not your problem... |
| 21:34.14 | ross`_ | and it wont let me |
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| 21:34.19 | ross`_ | dude |
| 21:34.25 | ross`_ | apt-get install libgtk2 |
| 21:34.26 | ross`_ | doesnt work |
| 21:34.28 | onetinsoldier | thechef, the first step is to make a backup of the following file... /var/lib/dpkg/status |
| 21:34.32 | witte | but you did not show me those errors |
| 21:34.39 | ross`_ | its the same error |
| 21:34.41 | ross`_ | -_- |
| 21:34.43 | ross`_ | nothing else to see |
| 21:34.48 | thechef | onetinsoldier: okay |
| 21:35.14 | ross`_ | there |
| 21:35.17 | ross`_ | refresh the error page |
| 21:35.20 | ross`_ | is that what you wanted |
| 21:35.23 | ross`_ | then i tried installing those things |
| 21:35.25 | ross`_ | and it wouldnt let me |
| 21:35.31 | onetinsoldier | before editing that file... it may be possible to fix the problem with dpkg commands, although doubtful... what state does dpkg show portmap as being in? |
| 21:35.32 | ross`_ | please tell me how to fix my system :( its being weird |
| 21:35.37 | onetinsoldier | dpkg -l portmap |
| 21:35.37 | dpkg | ii portmap 2.4-4.1 onetinsoldier's private porn collection |
| 21:35.46 | onetinsoldier | oops! haha |
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| 21:35.52 | ross`_ | witte: it keepts gtk and pango |
| 21:35.54 | ross`_ | to install anything |
| 21:35.55 | P4T3R | is here any slovak or czech?? |
| 21:35.56 | ross`_ | but i cant install those |
| 21:35.58 | ross`_ | :( |
| 21:36.07 | witte | ross`_: wait a moment, i'll try to log in to an etch machine of mine |
| 21:36.07 | onetinsoldier | those bots are sneaky |
| 21:36.12 | ross`_ | thanks |
| 21:36.14 | thechef | onetinsoldier: well when i open that file with vim i can see: Status: purge reinstreq half-configured |
| 21:36.18 | ross`_ | oh wait |
| 21:36.20 | ross`_ | i think i know why |
| 21:36.25 | ross`_ | is it because i got rid of the etch line |
| 21:36.28 | ross`_ | in my sources.list |
| 21:36.31 | adb | thechef: why you install portmap ? , it come with the base system |
| 21:36.31 | ross`_ | taht it cant isntall it |
| 21:36.32 | ross`_ | ? |
| 21:36.37 | onetinsoldier | thechef, ok.. try dpkg-reconfigure portmap |
| 21:36.40 | ross`_ | hmm |
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| 21:37.06 | witte | ross`_: it is not wrong to have both etch and etch-proposed-updates |
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| 21:37.08 | thechef | adb: it hangs at install - i once removed it and when i install it again it hangs.. the first time i installed portmap there was another mainboard underlying |
| 21:37.09 | onetinsoldier | it's worht a try.. probably bomb out tho |
| 21:37.16 | onetinsoldier | worth* |
| 21:37.24 | witte | ross`_: i am not sure, but that could be the problem indeed |
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| 21:37.29 | witte | feels a bit guilty |
| 21:37.39 | ross`_ | bah |
| 21:37.41 | ross`_ | now mroe errors |
| 21:37.42 | ross`_ | :( |
| 21:38.00 | witte | ross`_: show me |
| 21:38.20 | thechef | onetinsoldier: it says that portmap is damaged or not completely installed |
| 21:38.20 | ross`_ | basically |
| 21:38.29 | ross`_ | it doesnt accept etch and etch-other-thingy |
| 21:38.31 | ross`_ | on the same deb line |
| 21:38.40 | witte | ross`_: ah, that is normal |
| 21:38.42 | ross`_ | or it gives an error saying i cant download the stuffs |
| 21:38.44 | ross`_ | so |
| 21:38.45 | witte | you should have two lines |
| 21:38.49 | ross`_ | oh.. |
| 21:38.50 | ross`_ | so.. |
| 21:38.58 | witte | one with etch and one with etch-proposed updates |
| 21:38.58 | onetinsoldier | thechef, ok, i figured it would probably bomb out.. well, you ready to edit /var/lib/dpkg/status file? |
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| 21:39.00 | witte | but the rest the same |
| 21:39.09 | thechef | onetinsoldier: yea |
| 21:39.30 | ross`_ | yay ok |
| 21:39.32 | ross`_ | that problem is fixed |
| 21:39.36 | ross`_ | i can install firefox and everything else befor eit |
| 21:39.38 | ross`_ | so i got that stuff back |
| 21:39.43 | ross`_ | but that doesnt fix the real origional problem |
| 21:39.47 | ross`_ | the weird cairo error.. |
| 21:39.58 | onetinsoldier | thechef, ok, i will be going slowly here.. like i said, been a long time since i've done this |
| 21:40.00 | ross`_ | that is still there |
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| 21:40.16 | witte | ross`_: my earlier idea was to reinstall libcairo |
| 21:40.21 | witte | so that you have done now |
| 21:40.35 | MikeH | Hrm, how could I count how many times a word/phrase occurs in a single file? |
| 21:41.20 | ross`_ | yes |
| 21:41.24 | ross`_ | still get the error tho |
| 21:41.24 | ross`_ | :p |
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| 21:41.34 | witte | ross`_: but that is something shouldn't be broken in etch, otherwise it would have been reported many times, so it has to be something else... |
| 21:41.46 | onetinsoldier | thechef, look for a package that is listed in the 'status' file, but is not installed on your system. see if you can find one |
| 21:41.48 | MrBIOS | whats the package name for "kernel-modules"? |
| 21:41.49 | Polarina | I just installed Debian Lenny with GNOME. And there's no network icon on the top bar to open the wireless settings. |
| 21:41.51 | xorl` | MikeH, simple grep -ci word file |
| 21:41.52 | Polarina | What can I do? |
| 21:41.57 | witte | ross`_: can you try to make a new user and see if it has the error as well |
| 21:41.57 | ross`_ | witte: hmm |
| 21:42.02 | ross`_ | ok |
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| 21:43.40 | onetinsoldier | thechef, search for a line like this.... Status: purge ok not-installed or just search for not-installed |
| 21:44.00 | ross`_ | yep |
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| 21:44.04 | ross`_ | the error is on all users |
| 21:44.05 | ross`_ | :( |
| 21:44.19 | onetinsoldier | thechef, copy that line to your clipboard |
| 21:44.37 | thechef | okay |
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| 21:45.07 | onetinsoldier | thechef, now go to the area in the 'status' file that show the status of the portmap package |
| 21:45.10 | Polarina | I just installed Debian Lenny with GNOME. And there's no network icon on the top bar to open the wireless settings. |
| 21:45.20 | thechef | onetinsoldier: okay |
| 21:45.24 | ross`_ | yea |
| 21:45.28 | ross`_ | and the error is on root too |
| 21:45.33 | xorl` | Polarina, install network-manager and nm-applet :) |
| 21:45.42 | xorl` | or gnome-network-applet whatever it's called. |
| 21:45.43 | Polarina | xorl`: Thank you. |
| 21:45.49 | witte | ross`_: install strace, and do "strace iceweasel" |
| 21:45.56 | ross`_ | moment |
| 21:45.57 | witte | ross`_: paste the output somewhere |
| 21:46.01 | onetinsoldier | make the status line... can you guess what? Status: purge ok not-installed |
| 21:46.12 | ross`_ | wow |
| 21:46.13 | ross`_ | ok |
| 21:46.14 | ross`_ | um |
| 21:46.16 | ross`_ | yea moment :p |
| 21:46.18 | thechef | onetinsoldier: yeah |
| 21:46.34 | witte | ross`_: strace iceweasel > file.txt |
| 21:46.46 | ross`_ | im not a complete noob |
| 21:46.46 | ross`_ | :p |
| 21:46.51 | onetinsoldier | thechef, save the status file and then tall me what.... dpkg -l portmap shows |
| 21:46.53 | witte | sorry :-) |
| 21:46.59 | xorl` | witte, it's strace you gotta 2>&1 it |
| 21:46.59 | onetinsoldier | tall = tell |
| 21:47.12 | ross`_ | hmm |
| 21:47.20 | xorl` | otherwise file.txt will == empty :D |
| 21:47.20 | ross`_ | its, not working :p |
| 21:47.23 | thechef | onetinsoldier: |
| 21:47.23 | thechef | dpkg-query: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 11216 package`portmap': |
| 21:47.24 | thechef | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:47.33 | Polarina | xorl`: network-manager and network-manager-gnome are installed. But there's no package named nm-applet. |
| 21:47.37 | ross`_ | it doesnt print it in the file |
| 21:47.39 | onetinsoldier | thechef, i think you did something worng |
| 21:47.39 | ross`_ | its being really weird |
| 21:47.40 | ross`_ | o.O |
| 21:47.45 | xorl` | ok type nm-applet |
| 21:47.47 | ross`_ | witte: ? |
| 21:47.48 | xorl` | in console |
| 21:48.00 | thechef | onetinsoldier: could be but it says invalid status so the syntax is probably correct |
| 21:48.08 | onetinsoldier | thechef, i think you did something wrong. you made a typo or something. you must be careful. what editor are you using? |
| 21:48.14 | thechef | vim |
| 21:48.19 | thechef | i didn't make a typo |
| 21:48.19 | onetinsoldier | ah, good |
| 21:48.40 | Polarina | xorl`: I said, no such package. |
| 21:48.42 | witte | ross`_: yeah look at the remark of xorl`, or add "-o file" instead |
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| 21:48.52 | thechef | and it says inappropriate status.. sounds high-level-ish, so probably not really "parse"-level i guess |
| 21:48.57 | xorl` | witte, yeah either or |
| 21:49.08 | onetinsoldier | thechef, i believe that dpkg will not work as long as it shows that error message |
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| 21:49.54 | onetinsoldier | thechef, you'd better have made the backup of the status file! |
| 21:49.54 | ross`_ | wait what |
| 21:49.54 | ross`_ | im confused |
| 21:49.54 | ross`_ | ? |
| 21:49.54 | xorl` | Polarina, hmmm, i'm not booted into debian atm so I forget the name of it. |
| 21:49.54 | xorl` | But I had the same issue |
| 21:49.55 | ross`_ | what do i type |
| 21:49.55 | ross`_ | ahhh |
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| 21:50.05 | ross`_ | ? |
| 21:50.07 | ross`_ | witte: |
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| 21:50.14 | thechef | onetinsoldier: i'll do taht |
| 21:50.22 | witte | ross`_: strace iceweasel -o file.txt |
| 21:50.25 | ross`_ | k |
| 21:50.29 | onetinsoldier | thechef, i am going to edit my status file to do exactly what i am instructing you to do and see what happenes on my system, ok? |
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| 21:50.50 | thechef | onetinsoldier: okay, thanks |
| 21:50.53 | ross`_ | not working |
| 21:50.54 | ross`_ | its not working |
| 21:50.59 | ross`_ | it just showws it on the shell |
| 21:51.01 | ross`_ | it wont save to file |
| 21:51.03 | ross`_ | o.O |
| 21:51.08 | benley | anyone know wtf to do if locales is broken, dpkg-reconfigure locales doesn't fix anything, and /etc/default/locale{,s} doesn't exist? |
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| 21:51.30 | benley | I'm getting a bunch of locale errors from dpkg every time it tries to call debconf |
| 21:51.51 | ross`_ | strace iceweasel -o doesnt work |
| 21:51.53 | Polarina | xorl`: netapplet? |
| 21:51.54 | ross`_ | im telling you |
| 21:51.55 | ross`_ | atleast not for me |
| 21:51.58 | ross`_ | witte: ? |
| 21:52.12 | maurizio | ross`_: strace -o file.txt iceweasel |
| 21:52.17 | benley | oh bloody hell, this is an ubuntu box |
| 21:52.19 | witte | ross`_: lasy me, the -o must be between strace and the command: strace -o file iceweasel |
| 21:52.23 | benley | throws all assumptions out the window |
| 21:52.24 | xorl` | Polarina, they may have renamed it. |
| 21:52.25 | ross`_ | kk |
| 21:52.25 | ross`_ | thanks |
| 21:52.40 | Polarina | xorl`: Possibly. |
| 21:52.42 | ross`_ | xk |
| 21:52.43 | ross`_ | that worked |
| 21:52.44 | ross`_ | moment |
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| 21:52.56 | witte | ross`_: less enters please, it is difficult to follow what you... |
| 21:52.57 | ross`_ | ok |
| 21:53.00 | ross`_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:53.03 | ross`_ | sorry |
| 21:53.18 | ross`_ | momnent |
| 21:53.18 | xorl` | Yeah, need to have a "You've pressed enter too fast" |
| 21:53.30 | ross`_ | k, now itll work |
| 21:53.30 | xorl` | "please wait 3 seconds until pressing enter again" |
| 21:53.36 | SystemFAILURE | I . HATE . ENTER-FRIENDLY . USERS . |
| 21:53.46 | onetinsoldier | thechef, ok, i think i know what was wrong with my instructions |
| 21:53.53 | benley | SystemFAILURE: what, you don't like Internet Explorer's "oops, it didn't work!" errors? |
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| 21:54.09 | frog_ | hi,i have german keymap, but while trying to use some type - lerning programms, the umlauts like öäü are not recognised ( http://2addicted.com/words <-- this would be an example) |
| 21:54.09 | thechef | onetinsoldier: okay |
| 21:54.10 | ross`_ | witte: are you reading the file? |
| 21:54.17 | onetinsoldier | thechef, have you replaced the edited status file with the back you made? |
| 21:54.19 | SystemFAILURE | benley:: I hope you're not joking with my nick |
| 21:54.28 | witte | ross`_: yeah, but it is quite big and difficult... |
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| 21:54.37 | onetinsoldier | thechef, have you replaced the edited status file with the backup you made? |
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| 21:54.44 | benley | SystemFAILURE: ... I read what you said inside-out |
| 21:54.53 | thechef | onetinsoldier: yes |
| 21:54.57 | benley | SystemFAILURE: I thought it was "I hate user-friendly errors" |
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| 21:55.01 | benley | chuckles |
| 21:55.07 | onetinsoldier | thechef, ok... ready to edit it again? |
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| 21:55.14 | SystemFAILURE | benley:: that too |
| 21:55.27 | onetinsoldier | thechef, edit it exactly as before... then i wil continue |
| 21:55.42 | ross`_ | witte: ok |
| 21:55.49 | ross`_ | ill be here, just tell me what to do when you know :) |
| 21:55.54 | ross`_ | thanks so much for helping me and using yoru time |
| 21:55.56 | ross`_ | it means alot |
| 21:56.17 | thechef | onetinsoldier: okay |
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| 21:57.01 | onetinsoldier | thechef, you want 'only' the following lines in there for portmap... |
| 21:57.02 | thechef | onetinsoldier: done |
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| 21:57.34 | Polarina | xorl`: It's nm-applet. But it won't work. |
| 21:57.38 | onetinsoldier | thechef, Package: portmap Status: purge ok not-installed Priority: standard Section: net |
| 21:57.54 | Polarina | xorl`: When I start it up from the terminal, nothing happens but it keeps running. |
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| 21:58.04 | xorl` | hmmm |
| 21:58.12 | xorl` | should start up in the tray |
| 21:58.15 | xorl` | That is odd |
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| 21:58.32 | thechef | onetinsoldier: okay |
| 21:58.32 | KULLEKULLE | erik ben je hiero :P |
| 21:58.36 | ross`_ | witte: this isnt exactly a normal desktop computer tho, heh |
| 21:58.38 | onetinsoldier | thechef, i wasn't finished! you want only the above lines in there for portmap... in other words... delete all the lines after the Section: net line |
| 21:58.46 | ross`_ | so, it may not be as supported |
| 21:58.50 | thechef | onetinsoldier: done |
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| 21:59.01 | onetinsoldier | thechef, ok.. dpkg -l portmap |
| 21:59.03 | witte | ross`_: what do you mean with not a normal desktop |
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| 21:59.41 | ross`_ | its a server |
| 21:59.48 | thechef | onetinsoldier: it's different this time, multiple lines, no errors |
| 21:59.49 | ross`_ | hp dl380 proliant G4 |
| 21:59.49 | ross`_ | :p |
| 21:59.54 | ross`_ | its a racked serevr |
| 22:00.09 | onetinsoldier | thechef, ok... can i see them? /msg me if nescessary |
| 22:00.17 | witte | ross`_: should not make a real difference |
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| 22:00.27 | witte | what architecture? |
| 22:00.30 | Polarina | xorl`: I'm on a laptop. |
| 22:00.39 | xorl` | That shouldn't matter. |
| 22:00.44 | witte | amd64 or i386 |
| 22:00.46 | onetinsoldier | thechef, no errors means you are probably good to go though |
| 22:00.48 | Polarina | amd64 |
| 22:01.05 | onetinsoldier | thechef, yep.. you're good now |
| 22:01.23 | thechef | onetinsoldier: okay, thanks.. so now I have to figure out why portmap hangs at install |
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| 22:01.39 | onetinsoldier | thechef, you now have a green light to try and install portmap from scratch |
| 22:02.09 | onetinsoldier | thechef, you're welcome and good luck |
| 22:02.20 | thechef | onetinsoldier: but should't i delete everything that still resides on my system from portmap?? like a manual purge |
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| 22:03.14 | faif | Can I edit /etc/crontab directly? Should I use a program for this? |
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| 22:03.17 | onetinsoldier | thechef, portmap is still haning around on your system.. if you want to delete it, you will need to a list of all the files it put on your system and then you will need to delete them manually |
| 22:03.20 | Polarina | xorl`: Had to run it as root... |
| 22:04.16 | onetinsoldier | thechef, however... i was just setting you up to try and install it again.. if it hangs when you install it, then i'm not certain how to solve that problem.. try and install it again tho.. see what happens now |
| 22:04.25 | thechef | onetinsoldier: i just deleted anything *portmap* in /var and /etc and now i managed to install portmap correctly! |
| 22:04.35 | onetinsoldier | AH-HA! cool |
| 22:04.53 | thechef | onetinsoldier: thanks a lot |
| 22:04.57 | onetinsoldier | whew |
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| 22:05.09 | onetinsoldier | thechef, you're welcome |
| 22:05.23 | thechef | but it seems like nfs has similar problems :D |
| 22:05.47 | thechef | I guess i can fix them now, if not i'll come back :D |
| 22:06.24 | onetinsoldier | thechef, roger that |
| 22:06.40 | Polarina | xorl`: But it keeps saying that I'm not connected or something. |
| 22:07.04 | ross`_ | witte: so, what do you think |
| 22:07.07 | ross`_ | do you know what the proiblem is |
| 22:07.32 | Polarina | xorl`: Got it working. |
| 22:07.47 | witte | ross`_: i am going through an ediff of a strace on a machine of my own and yours, and i am about halfway... |
| 22:07.49 | Polarina | xorl`: How do I have it stay there without running it from the command line? |
| 22:08.00 | ross`_ | witte: ok, take your time |
| 22:08.01 | ross`_ | thanks |
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| 22:08.14 | xorl` | Polarina, just start it up with the gnome session manager |
| 22:08.16 | witte | ross`_: each time the pid is mentioned or a memory allocation, it shows it as a differenc :( |
| 22:08.20 | Polarina | xorl`: That is what? |
| 22:08.46 | Polarina | xorl`: Found it. |
| 22:09.06 | Polarina | xorl`: Will the session manager run it as root? |
| 22:09.29 | xorl` | Polarina, Don't think so but you could write a wrapper for it, but launching it as a standard user should work. |
| 22:09.52 | xorl` | the network manager should be started as an rc-script and the applet should just run as your standard user. |
| 22:09.58 | Polarina | xorl`: It doesn't work as a standard user. |
| 22:10.07 | xorl` | hmmm |
| 22:10.40 | onetinsoldier | can anyone help me get 'icewm-gnome' (package name in lenny is icewm-gnome-support) to start with the 'startx' command on console terminal? i do not have gdm installed. i set the x-session-manager to 'gnome-session' with the 'update-alternatives --config x-session-manager' command. what needs to be in my ~/.xnitrc file? if i put 'exec icewm-gnome' in it i end up back at the console command prompt(no x-windows). |
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| 22:11.38 | xorl` | onetinsoldier, Did you look at .xsession-errors ? |
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| 22:11.43 | xorl` | It'll tell you why that heppened |
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| 22:12.01 | faffi | xorl`: can he put it in ~/.xsession ? |
| 22:12.03 | onetinsoldier | xorl`, no... ok, i'll try this again and then have a look at that file... brb |
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| 22:12.22 | Polarina | xorl`: ** (nm-applet:5457): WARNING **: <WARN> nma_dbus_init(): could not acquire its service. dbus_bus_acquire_service() says: 'Connection ":1.360" is not allowed to own the service "org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerInfo" due to security policies in the configuration file' |
| 22:12.24 | onetinsoldier | faffi, same thing happens if i rename .xinitrc to .xsession |
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| 22:13.03 | onetinsoldier | brb |
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| 22:13.57 | thechef | the problem i have now is that it is hanging at: Starting NFS kernel daemon: nfsd |
| 22:14.17 | benley | thechef: is portmap failing? |
| 22:14.21 | xorl` | ah |
| 22:14.28 | xorl` | Polarina, add your user to the netdev group |
| 22:14.28 | Polarina | xorl`: Any ideas? |
| 22:14.34 | Polarina | xorl`: Ok, thanks. |
| 22:14.41 | Polarina | xorl`: How do I do that again? |
| 22:14.44 | xorl` | Add it to the session, log out, then login |
| 22:14.57 | thechef | benley: i don't know but when i try to stop portmap it's hanging forever as well |
| 22:15.06 | xorl` | should just be useradd/adduser -G netdev username |
| 22:15.19 | Polarina | xorl`: Thank you. |
| 22:15.31 | benley | thechef: have you firewalled off high-numbered tcp/udp connections to localhost? |
| 22:15.56 | benley | thechef: does doing a dns reverse-lookup of your machine's IP address or 127.0.0.1 or localhost also hang? |
| 22:16.02 | benley | thechef: is there bogus stuff in /etc/hosts? |
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| 22:17.51 | runa | hi does anybody have tried entrance? |
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| 22:18.14 | Guerin | !anyone use |
| 22:18.14 | dpkg | No, no one uses it, not even the people who use it. |
| 22:18.20 | ross`_ | witte: so, you dont know anything yet? |
| 22:18.23 | ross`_ | hmm |
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| 22:18.42 | frog_ | a sound in skype doesn't work for me. i ave tried to change it in options(i can choose: HDA NVidia(hw: NVidia1, hw: NVidia0, plughw: NVidia1, plughw: NVidia0), nut no matter what i choose i hear nothing |
| 22:19.04 | Polarina | xorl`: It doesn't load automatically (but it is in the session manager). But it works without running it as root. |
| 22:19.23 | Polarina | xorl`: No wait, it's not there. o.O |
| 22:19.26 | Polarina | xorl`: Thank you. |
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| 22:20.08 | thechef | benley: no |
| 22:20.21 | thechef | oh |
| 22:20.38 | roger_ | can someone help me with firmware installation. built the fwcutter from the website and i donwloaded the driver, run the command to extract the firmware into both /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware/ and /lib/firmware/ reloaded the module and its still not showing in iwconfig, was something else i needed to do? |
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| 22:21.03 | thechef | benley: how can i reverse lookup my machine's ip address? |
| 22:21.18 | benley | thechef: apt-get install host; host <your IP> |
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| 22:21.47 | benley | thechef: does rpcinfo -p print anything useful? |
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| 22:22.21 | thechef | benley: it says that it can't lookup reversly |
| 22:22.36 | thechef | ost 149.3.168.192.in-addr.arpa not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) |
| 22:22.43 | benley | thechef: that could be part of your problem. |
| 22:22.55 | benley | thechef: you could add an entry for 192.168.3.149 to /etc/hosts and see if that helps |
| 22:22.56 | witte | ross`_: my diff stuff did not give me anything |
| 22:23.00 | benley | thechef: (or even better, put it in dns) |
| 22:23.03 | onetinsoldier | xorl`, thank you. i got some logging in there that should help to start finding out where the problem is... but it's not a short message. i will have to put it in pastebin |
| 22:23.10 | ross`_ | witte: hmm |
| 22:23.12 | ross`_ | then whats wrong? |
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| 22:23.26 | witte | ross`_: but i am wondering what it is that could be wrong |
| 22:23.36 | ross`_ | yea |
| 22:23.38 | ross`_ | anyway i gtg |
| 22:23.39 | ross`_ | ill talk to you later |
| 22:23.39 | ross`_ | ok? |
| 22:23.48 | witte | you have some different libraries that you use (at least they are placed differently) |
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| 22:24.13 | witte | ross`_: sorry that i couldn't help, good luck with your problem. |
| 22:24.16 | thechef | benley: i don't even get ping response from 127.0.0.1 |
| 22:24.16 | maurizio | witte: could ross`_'s stuff be related to #376858 |
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| 22:24.25 | benley | thechef: then you probably did something crazy with iptables |
| 22:24.30 | ross`_ | yea |
| 22:24.31 | ross`_ | its ok |
| 22:24.34 | ross`_ | thanks for trying |
| 22:24.35 | ross`_ | it means alot |
| 22:24.38 | ross`_ | ill talk to you later |
| 22:24.42 | thechef | benley: all iptables scripts are inactive |
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| 22:24.47 | thechef | there are no rules active |
| 22:24.56 | benley | thechef: iptables --list shows nothing? |
| 22:25.08 | thechef | benley: no, nothing |
| 22:25.24 | witte | ross`_: check http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=376858 |
| 22:25.27 | benley | thechef: if you run ifconfig, does the lo interface show up? |
| 22:25.30 | witte | ross`_: do you use vnc? |
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| 22:25.40 | thechef | benley: no.. mmh |
| 22:25.42 | ross`_ | witte: yes |
| 22:25.49 | benley | thechef: try ifup lo |
| 22:25.51 | witte | maurizio: it looks like it at least |
| 22:25.59 | maurizio | witte: indeed... |
| 22:26.02 | benley | thechef: make sure you have "auto lo" in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 22:26.10 | witte | ross`_: that is something that would have been interesting to mention... |
| 22:26.21 | ross`_ | ES |
| 22:26.22 | ross`_ | thats my error |
| 22:26.23 | ross`_ | ! |
| 22:26.24 | ross`_ | omg |
| 22:26.26 | ross`_ | so so |
| 22:26.28 | ross`_ | tell me what i need to do |
| 22:26.28 | witte | ross`_: does it work outside vnc? |
| 22:26.33 | thechef | benley: it says: ifup: couldn't read interfaces file "/etc/network/interfaces" |
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| 22:26.39 | benley | thechef: well that's a problem :) |
| 22:26.59 | ross`_ | idk |
| 22:27.01 | ross`_ | its a server |
| 22:27.03 | ross`_ | no console access |
| 22:27.05 | benley | thechef: you can probably reconstruct it by looking at another working system |
| 22:27.05 | ross`_ | its in a datacenter |
| 22:27.05 | ross`_ | :p |
| 22:27.08 | witte | ross`_: ssh access. |
| 22:27.11 | witte | ? |
| 22:27.12 | ross`_ | well |
| 22:27.15 | ross`_ | if i do it in ssh |
| 22:27.17 | ross`_ | it cant open display |
| 22:27.18 | ross`_ | :p |
| 22:27.23 | witte | ross`_: ssh -X |
| 22:27.40 | ross`_ | k, anyway |
| 22:27.41 | ross`_ | i gtg NOW |
| 22:27.45 | ross`_ | ill taklk to you later |
| 22:27.47 | ross`_ | and finsih this up |
| 22:27.49 | ross`_ | thanks a bunch |
| 22:27.50 | ross`_ | AFk |
| 22:27.53 | witte | ross`_: ok, try ssh -X server next time |
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| 22:29.19 | SparFux | There should be a command "copy-my-files" which searches for files in a subdir like /etc and scans for files containing a certain string or having certain filename characteristics like .String endings and copy them to another dir into the same directories with the same permissions. |
| 22:29.23 | thechef | benley: aye thanks, it could ifup lo because the syntax for another interface was not correct, thanks a lot |
| 22:29.35 | benley | thechef: hooray :) |
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| 22:30.26 | Polarina | My laptop isn't detecting wireless networks. |
| 22:30.32 | Polarina | Debian Lenny. |
| 22:30.50 | amphi | iwlist <interface> scan doesn't show any? |
| 22:31.16 | Polarina | It says "Network is down" |
| 22:31.32 | Polarina | "Interface doesn't support scanning" |
| 22:32.14 | amphi | Polarina: so ifconfig it up and do the scan |
| 22:32.40 | Polarina | amphi: ? |
| 22:32.43 | adb | witte [Nov 29 22:26:46 ] <adb> ross`: try libcairo2 on bts >>[23:26:20 ] <ross`_> thats my error |
| 22:32.48 | Polarina | ifconfig it up? |
| 22:33.00 | amphi | drivers that use the mac80211 module need to be up to scan |
| 22:33.15 | amphi | Polarina: ifconfig <iface> up |
| 22:33.19 | Polarina | amphi: Ok. |
| 22:33.36 | amphi | and then try the scan |
| 22:33.46 | Polarina | amphi: "SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory" |
| 22:34.07 | amphi | Polarina: what was the command you used? |
| 22:34.15 | Polarina | amphi: ifconfig wlan0 up |
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| 22:34.42 | amphi | Polarina: does ifconfig -a show wlan0? |
| 22:34.54 | Polarina | amphi: Yes. |
| 22:35.06 | witte | adb: yes, but if i type libcairo2 in the bts window, that vnc error that maurizio gave is not listed |
| 22:35.07 | SparFux | Then the device is available. |
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| 22:35.34 | adb | heh |
| 22:35.43 | maurizio | adb: one hour later... |
| 22:35.50 | SJrX | An extent is when a FS specifies the interval of a portion of a file, instead of a 1-1 mapping of each block? |
| 22:35.56 | witte | adb: so i don't completely blame him |
| 22:35.59 | adb | date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 |
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| 22:36.21 | witte | adb: it should be fixed anyhow? |
| 22:36.22 | Polarina | amphi: Any ideas? |
| 22:36.31 | adb | i dunno |
| 22:37.00 | amphi | Polarina: but ifconfig wlan0 up fails? |
| 22:37.07 | amphi | what card is this? |
| 22:37.14 | Polarina | amphi: With that "No such file or directory" error. |
| 22:37.26 | adb | iwconfig ? |
| 22:37.49 | amphi | Polarina: I've not seen ifconfig say such a thing |
| 22:37.54 | amphi | what card is this? |
| 22:37.55 | onetinsoldier | hi. can anyone help me get 'icewm-gnome' (package name in lenny is icewm-gnome-support) to start with the 'startx' command on console terminal? i do not have gdm installed. i set the x-session-manager to 'gnome-session' with the 'update-alternatives --config x-session-manager' command. if i put 'exec icewm-gnome' in it i end up back at the console command prompt and i get the following errors in ~/.xsession-errors --> http: |
| 22:37.55 | onetinsoldier | //paste.debian.net/22525/ |
| 22:37.59 | Polarina | 02:00.0 Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network Connection (rev 61) |
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| 22:38.33 | amphi | Polarina: I have that card here |
| 22:38.45 | amphi | Polarina: do you have the firmware installed? |
| 22:38.50 | Polarina | amphi: Firmware? |
| 22:38.59 | Polarina | amphi: Do I need a proprietary blob? |
| 22:39.07 | amphi | Polarina: yes :( |
| 22:39.07 | thechef | my usb drives are no longer mounted at startup after i replaced the mainbaord |
| 22:39.21 | Polarina | amphi: I'd rather throw the computer in the can than using one! |
| 22:39.30 | thechef | i can mount them manually after startup but that's not desired as startup scripts depend on configured drives |
| 22:39.35 | amphi | Polarina: what driver do you have there? iwl4965 or iwlagn? |
| 22:39.41 | Polarina | amphi: No idea. |
| 22:39.56 | amphi | Polarina: lsmod | grep iwl |
| 22:40.07 | amphi | all intel wireless cards need fw blobs |
| 22:40.23 | Polarina | amphi: iwl4965 |
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| 22:41.13 | amphi | !tell Polarina -about iwl4965 |
| 22:41.34 | amphi | Polarina: the firmware is packaged |
| 22:41.55 | Polarina | amphi: Ok. Do I have to do anything else after having installed it? |
| 22:42.36 | amphi | remove and modprobe the module, ifconfig <iface> up and do iwlist <iface> scan |
| 22:42.44 | amphi | what laptop is thus? |
| 22:42.48 | amphi | *this |
| 22:42.52 | Polarina | amphi: Will that blob be executed on my CPU or just on the card? |
| 22:42.53 | Polarina | amphi: Mitac. |
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| 22:43.14 | amphi | on the card as far as I know |
| 22:43.21 | Polarina | amphi: Then I'm good. |
| 22:43.21 | onetinsoldier | xorl`, would you want to take a look at my .xsession-errors? |
| 22:43.22 | Polarina | Phew. |
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| 22:46.27 | Polarina | amphi: It says that there is no package named firmware-iwlwifi |
| 22:47.05 | Polarina | Oh, wait. I forgot to plug in the network cable when doing a update. |
| 22:47.11 | amphi | heh |
| 22:47.16 | Polarina | Clumsy me. |
| 22:47.55 | Polarina | amphi: Then I just restart the computer? |
| 22:48.02 | amphi | no need |
| 22:48.14 | Polarina | Well, but that way works too, right? |
| 22:48.58 | amphi | just modprobe -r iwl4965 and modprobe iwl4965 and ifconfig wlan0 up and iwlist wlan0 scan |
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| 22:49.33 | jorgp | if I want to rsync a beta1 file into a beta2 file anyone know the rsync syntax? |
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| 22:50.29 | adb | jorgp: come again with same question ? hmmm |
| 22:51.12 | jorgp | adb: I want to take an iso file say beta1 and rsync that file into beta2 without having to download the entire iso file over |
| 22:51.34 | Polarina | amphi: Woth, woth. It works! *hug* |
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| 22:54.54 | Polarina | Now I just have to figure out how to make it enter monitor mode. |
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| 22:58.31 | Polarina | amphi: Do you know how that's done? |
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| 22:59.44 | alex89ru | hello all |
| 23:00.24 | adb | jorgp: google debian iso remaster |
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| 23:01.16 | alex89ru | I havent sued debian sicne > 1 year |
| 23:01.24 | alex89ru | whats the current testingg or stable name? |
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| 23:01.52 | graeme | testing = lenny, stable = etch |
| 23:01.54 | adb | www.debian.org |
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| 23:01.58 | alex89ru | oh |
| 23:02.03 | alex89ru | nothing changed sicne 1 year |
| 23:02.05 | alex89ru | kk ty |
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| 23:02.11 | alex89ru | btw |
| 23:02.23 | alex89ru | I tried to down load netinst-iso |
| 23:02.30 | alex89ru | is there also a testing netinst-iso? |
| 23:02.41 | alex89ru | or only stable netinst? |
| 23:02.48 | amphi | Polarina: why do you need monitor mode? iwlist wlan0 scan will show APs |
| 23:03.01 | Polarina | amphi: I want to crack some networks. :P |
| 23:03.07 | Polarina | Need to save some packets. |
| 23:03.18 | adb | alex89ru: google before ask |
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| 23:03.38 | amphi | Polarina: kismet should set it into monitor mode |
| 23:03.48 | alex89ru | well I visted debian.org directly, but you also know that the site is a bit confusing^ |
| 23:03.50 | amphi | Polarina: or use iwconfig to set the mode |
| 23:04.00 | Polarina | amphi: Thank you. |
| 23:04.15 | amphi | so far, that card doesn't support master mode as far as I know :( |
| 23:04.29 | maligor | remember that cracking networks is illegal in some places :P |
| 23:04.30 | Polarina | I still can't get weplab to monitor the packets. |
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| 23:04.39 | Polarina | maligor: I'm aware. |
| 23:04.57 | amphi | Polarina: iwconfig wlan0 mode monitor doesn't work? |
| 23:05.31 | Polarina | amphi: It doesn't say it failed. |
| 23:05.46 | Polarina | amphi: Do you know of a packet fetching programs? |
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| 23:05.54 | amphi | iwconfig wlan0 shows it in monitor mode? |
| 23:06.20 | amphi | kismet will, I believe - I don't know much about it |
| 23:06.37 | Polarina | amphi: Yes, it says it is in monitor mode. |
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| 23:07.06 | Polarina | I'll check out kismet. |
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| 23:08.46 | Polarina | amphi: It tells me to configure at least one packet source... |
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| 23:09.47 | amphi | you probably need to edit its config |
| 23:09.58 | amphi | there must be howtos all over the web |
| 23:10.46 | Polarina | Ok. |
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| 23:14.14 | onetinsoldier | hi. can anyone help me get 'icewm-gnome' (package name in lenny is icewm-gnome-support) to start with the 'startx' command on console terminal? i do not have gdm installed. i set the x-session-manager to 'gnome-session' with the 'update-alternatives --config x-session-manager' command. if i put 'exec icewm-gnome' in it i end up back at the console command prompt and i get the following errors in ~/.xsession-errors --> http: |
| 23:14.14 | onetinsoldier | //paste.debian.net/22525/ |
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| 23:28.56 | pyrohotdog | Upon log in, my panel half loads, and is completely unresponsive. |
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| 23:29.30 | pyrohotdog | Upon log in, my panel half loads, and is completely unresponsive. |
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| 23:33.34 | pyrohotdog | Chatty today, eh? |
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| 23:34.59 | tCzern | looking for a cheap raid card, which one will work with linux? |
| 23:36.38 | joltcan | tCzern: There are no good cheap raid cards. Buy a sata card and use software raid |
| 23:37.18 | tCzern | I have two sata connectors on my mobo, I thought I would need extra hardware for raid?! Sotfware? |
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| 23:37.55 | daftd | tCzern: im possible, there are no chear raid card |
| 23:38.10 | daftd | exept included thing that are "softraid" |
| 23:38.31 | tCzern | looking at newegg. I don't believe in cheap stuff neither, thanks! |
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| 23:38.54 | joltcan | tCzern: Yes. Google mdadm |
| 23:39.48 | tCzern | great, thanks! |
| 23:39.50 | joltcan | cheap raid cards are just a sata card with a driver that takes care of the raid part. Motherboard raids are dangerous; if your MB dies and you can't find a replacement, your screwed |
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| 23:41.01 | tCzern | argh, well I wanted to go for the mirror raid |
| 23:41.07 | tCzern | raid 1, afaik |
| 23:41.17 | joltcan | yes, but raid1 works perfectly in linux software raid |
| 23:41.20 | joltcan | so go with that |
| 23:42.06 | tCzern | yeah, no stripped. just in case my hard disk goes down the toilet, I hate to reinstall a whole system |
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| 23:47.19 | ringo999 | hi, im trying to get the microphone working with debian lenny... I'm using a macbook 1st generation. anyone who got it working or would be willing to help me? |
| 23:49.17 | ringo999 | i can live without the camera (isight) but the mic i really need... |
| 23:49.28 | onetinsoldier | hi. can anyone help me get 'icewm-gnome' (package name in lenny is icewm-gnome-support) to start with the 'startx' command on console terminal? i do not have gdm installed. i set the x-session-manager to 'gnome-session' with the 'update-alternatives --config x-session-manager' command. if i put 'exec icewm-gnome' in it i end up back at the console command prompt. |
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| 23:50.31 | onetinsoldier | i am beginning to think that icewm-gnome-support is just plain borked in lenny... no .xsession-errors, no errors in Xorg.0.log |
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| 23:54.29 | onetinsoldier | hi. can anyone help me get 'icewm-gnome' (package name in lenny is icewm-gnome-support) to start with the 'startx' command on console terminal? i do not have gdm installed. i set the x-session-manager to 'gnome-session' with the 'update-alternatives --config x-session-manager' command. if i put 'exec icewm-gnome' in it i end up back at the console command prompt. |
| 23:54.50 | onetinsoldier | oops! wrong damn window |
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| 23:55.09 | daftd | hey ctrl alt esc give you a kill app cursor |
| 23:55.14 | daftd | nice nice |
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| 23:57.40 | rhineheart_m | hello.. how to transfer files using scp to a server with modified port number? |
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| 23:59.23 | amphi | rhineheart_m: -P port (as man scp says) |
| 23:59.43 | rhineheart_m | thanks amphi |
