| 00:00.10 | bel0ved | Hey, got a question. Just burned an Etch ia64 DVD and tried to boot off of it, but all I got was a hanging black screen. Might anyone know the cause? |
| 00:00.23 | punzada | Yeah i've noticed that, I'm more one to grab the headders of a group, browse and download that way though |
| 00:00.34 | punzada | haven't been able to find a console equivilent to do that though |
| 00:00.57 | punzada | may have to work something up myself its looking like |
| 00:01.05 | petemc | bel0ved: ia64? you probably want i386 or amd64 |
| 00:01.11 | Qew | good luck with that |
| 00:01.42 | stoned | helloo |
| 00:01.46 | stoned | whats up guys |
| 00:02.06 | petemc | punzada: any nntp client should be able to grab the headers, thats what they do |
| 00:02.08 | bel0ved | petemc: Oh. So a 64-bit Core 2 Duo is in fact i386? That would probably be the problem. |
| 00:02.31 | petemc | bel0ved: amd64 if you want 64bit, the name is misleading |
| 00:02.37 | punzada | hmm |
| 00:03.12 | bel0ved | petemc: Oh. I'm retarded. Thank you! |
| 00:04.15 | nan8 | anybody else having troubles (random deadlocks) with swap on crypted lvm on md raid? (is that a bad idea?) |
| 00:05.12 | Lovecraft | Maybe I'm really stupid, but I wonder why anyone would include swap in a raid... |
| 00:05.47 | nan8 | well the whole disk is a degraded raid |
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| 00:05.58 | nullboy | linux has the ability to stripe swaps across multiple partitions without RAID as it is... |
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| 00:06.32 | nullboy | you just setup multiple swap partitions across multiple disks and set the fstab priorities all the same and the kernel will stripe access them |
| 00:06.40 | jelly-home | if one is using encrypted block devices, there's probably a reason to |
| 00:06.41 | nan8 | i use md raid as easy solution to incremental resync my laptop disk to an external usb drive |
| 00:07.06 | jelly-home | nan8: now _that's_ just abuse of raid1 :-) |
| 00:07.35 | jelly-home | how do you do incrementals with md raid? |
| 00:07.41 | nan8 | :-) yes, but it is quite handy |
| 00:08.12 | jelly-home | didn't know md raid had cow/snapshots |
| 00:08.15 | nan8 | jelly-home: md raid raid has a bitmap feature in newer kernels |
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| 00:09.04 | nan8 | jelly-home: feature of md raid in newer versions |
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| 00:09.38 | jelly-home | nan8: how new are we talking about? .24, .26, 28rc? |
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| 00:11.12 | stoned | cow? |
| 00:11.16 | nan8 | jelly-home: no i think 2.6.18 - but there was a bug with the incremental resync - i think it worked around .21 |
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| 00:13.22 | nan8 | basically you have a bitmap recording dirty areas |
| 00:13.37 | nan8 | (if in degraded mode) |
| 00:14.05 | jelly-home | understands the idea. |
| 00:14.36 | Lovecraft | man fmt |
| 00:14.46 | jelly-home | and hope that the old member becomes alive |
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| 00:15.22 | nan8 | it really works well - except the random deadlocks if using swap |
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| 00:15.53 | nan8 | anybody using encryted swap at all? |
| 00:17.07 | jelly-home | stacking a lot of layers has been problematic in the past |
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| 00:18.23 | sobersabre | hi. |
| 00:18.32 | nan8 | jelly-home: maybe i should use a seperate old style partition without dm raid for the swap |
| 00:18.58 | sobersabre | I have set up ntp server, and I wonder if the time on the system automagically updates, or will I need to run ntpdate once in a while ? |
| 00:19.01 | jelly-home | well that would work. but then you'd end up with plaintext on the platters |
| 00:19.04 | nan8 | jelly-home: typo md raid of course |
| 00:19.25 | petemc | sobersabre: the server should do the right thing |
| 00:19.46 | jelly-home | s/plain/clear/ |
| 00:19.57 | sobersabre | ok. |
| 00:19.59 | sobersabre | thanks. |
| 00:20.22 | petemc | np |
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| 00:20.58 | jberg | how can i change /etc/alternatives/editor to point to vim instead of vim.tiny? |
| 00:21.07 | abrotman | update-alternatives |
| 00:21.21 | nan8 | jelly-home: but resizing the raid is no fun :-( - should encryted swap work? |
| 00:22.16 | jelly-home | nan8: no idea, but at least you'll have one layer less, so it's supposed to be more stable |
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| 00:24.03 | jelly-home | nan8: in theory you'd report your deadlock issue to lkml and get help with debugging... ;-) |
| 00:24.12 | john_ripper | Hey, how long does it take to install ejabberd normally? |
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| 00:24.25 | john_ripper | For a middle-advanced user like me? :) |
| 00:24.42 | jelly-home | john_ripper: your middle is advanced? |
| 00:24.51 | john_ripper | lol |
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| 00:25.14 | abrotman | john_ripper: are you using packages or compiling ? |
| 00:25.19 | john_ripper | packages |
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| 00:26.46 | nan8 | jelly-home: hmm yes - maybe i should take the time to debug it - on the other hand it is maybe a little bit stupid what i am doing? |
| 00:27.19 | jelly-home | nan8: expecting linux to work? perhaps. |
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| 00:27.25 | jberg | hm, update-alternatives --list editor i get a list of different editors, how do i choose one of them? or add a new one? |
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| 00:28.35 | nan8 | jelly-home: no - the i want to sync my laptop drive to an external drive so i take md raid and put my swap on md raid and lvm crypto ... |
| 00:28.39 | Qew | update-alternatives --config editor |
| 00:28.49 | Qew | select what you want, then bingo |
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| 00:29.07 | abrotman | jberg: update-alternatives actually does have a man page |
| 00:29.26 | jpinx | I'd like to set up my daughter with etch, but she's on teh other side of the pacific. Can I do this remotely? |
| 00:31.40 | jelly-home | nan8: two different issues, aren't they. and you don't have to put the swap on md raid either. |
| 00:32.36 | infernixx | if a bash script is called from, say, /tmp, and the script lives somewhere in $PATH, is there a variable for the path where the script resides? |
| 00:32.54 | infernixx | if its in the path $0 will be just the script basename, right? |
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| 00:33.46 | infernixx | whoops, was ment for #bash |
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| 00:38.59 | nan8 | jelly-home: i will resize the md raid to make space for the encryted swap outside of md raid and will report any problems if that does not work (encrypted swap really should work - but i guess most people do not use swap at all anymore?) |
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| 00:39.56 | jelly-home | nan8: no idea about "most"... all my machines have swap and linux uses a nonzero amount of it (usually a very small bit, though) |
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| 00:40.48 | nan8 | jelly-home: the deadlocks only happen if swap is used massively |
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| 00:42.25 | mlLK | this may be offtopic but how do you purge sub-processes from apt |
| 00:42.50 | abrotman | uh what? |
| 00:43.03 | abrotman | did you ask #ubuntu? |
| 00:43.07 | mlLK | ya |
| 00:43.19 | mlLK | anytime i run install it attempts to install something that failed |
| 00:43.25 | mlLK | from earlier |
| 00:43.27 | abrotman | so if you're using ubuntu .. ask them, not us |
| 00:43.30 | jelly-home | !errors |
| 00:43.30 | dpkg | if you don't tell us the exact error messages you get, we can't tell you what's wrong, and it's also useful to know exactly what command you're typing. Please look for the *first* error that occurs, as this is often the cause of later errors, or - ask me about <localized errors> too |
| 00:44.06 | jelly-home | mlLK: complete output please. use a pastebin |
| 00:44.24 | jelly-home | hopes mlLK is running debian |
| 00:44.49 | abrotman | bet he's not |
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| 00:45.37 | llimeht | infernixx: http://wooledge.org:8000/BashFAQ/028 |
| 00:46.00 | mlLK | it's a java package |
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| 00:47.52 | llimeht | mlLK: It's very simple, you either provide the information people ask for or you don't get help. Please pastebin the exact command and the entire output, along with the output of "dpkg -l libc6". |
| 00:48.17 | Guerin | !irritate llimeht |
| 00:48.17 | dpkg | llimeht: HELP ME!!! how does I run teh quake3 kthx |
| 00:48.35 | jelly-home | !annoy Guerin |
| 00:48.49 | Guerin | wins |
| 00:48.53 | jelly-home | that annoyed _me_ |
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| 00:48.58 | llimeht | !lart Guerin |
| 00:48.58 | dpkg | pries Guerin's back open with a screwdriver and flashes a new bootldr to Guerin |
| 00:49.16 | Guerin | NOES |
| 00:49.29 | jelly-home | flashes ... to? shouldn't that say, at least "onto"? |
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| 00:51.14 | ralfWORK | probably a nutty question, but are there any Apt sources out there for Sarge anymore? |
| 00:51.37 | ralfWORK | (yeah yeah I know it's old) |
| 00:51.41 | Guerin | ralfWORK: oldstable is still maintained by debian |
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| 00:51.50 | llimeht | err... no it's not |
| 00:51.53 | Guerin | oh wait |
| 00:51.59 | Guerin | only for a year after etch |
| 00:52.01 | Guerin | my bad |
| 00:52.19 | ralfWORK | yeah was gonna say http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/oldstable/ doesn't work :P |
| 00:52.23 | nan8 | ralfWORK: archive.debian.org |
| 00:52.28 | ralfWORK | nan8: k, checking |
| 00:53.08 | llimeht | ralfWORK: you do, of course, realise that sarge hasn't had an security updates for 9 months, don't you? |
| 00:53.13 | jpinx | no security updates for oldstable since march |
| 00:53.36 | Narcissus1 | Just installed debian lenny, I have the default repos in my sources.list, and yet I get (111 connection refused) for every single one - any ideas why this is? I've googled, and the only solutions seem to be for people where the address of the repo resolves to localhost :4001, mine resolve to the IP and yet I am still refused |
| 00:53.38 | ralfWORK | llimeht: sure. and what you don't realize is that this box runs in my house where it really doesn't matter :D |
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| 00:54.22 | llimeht | ralfWORK: if permiter security was all that was needed to make a box secure, there would be no virus, no worms and essentially no spam. |
| 00:54.23 | ralfWORK | but I do suppose I should update my production servers one of these days. heh. |
| 00:54.26 | DanDare | Hello. The archive /etc/modules.conf is completely empty. Im using debian Etch, is this normal ? |
| 00:54.33 | jpinx | ralfWORK: if it's connected to the internet - it matters;) |
| 00:56.05 | jpinx | Narcissus1: did you try apt-spy? |
| 00:56.13 | ralfWORK | llimeht: lemme know when you find a linux virus :) |
| 00:56.27 | ralfWORK | and this box doesn't connect to the internet except right now, when I'm trying to install software |
| 00:56.36 | ralfWORK | I do fully appreciate the concern though |
| 00:56.56 | jpinx | ralfWORK: let us know when you get r00t'd |
| 00:57.00 | Narcissus1 | jpinx: apt-spy - command not found, can't get through repos |
| 00:57.29 | ralfWORK | jpinx: haven't been r00t'd in the 12 years I've ran linux :) |
| 00:57.32 | jpinx | !tell Narcissus1 about apt-spy |
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| 00:58.09 | Guerin | ralfWORK: that you're aware of |
| 00:58.11 | Narcissus1 | jpinx: the point is I can't get apt-spy, cause I can't access any of the repos.. unless you know of a binary somewhere |
| 00:58.31 | mlLK | http://pastie.org/336330 is what happens anytime after installing anything |
| 00:58.36 | ralfWORK | Guerin: negative proof? lol |
| 00:58.43 | jpinx | Narcissus1: sounds like a some kind of network problem -- not my area - sorry |
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| 00:59.01 | Guerin | ralfWORK: well, being rooted is subject to heisenberg uncertainty |
| 00:59.06 | Guerin | so yeah :) |
| 00:59.09 | mlLK | i just want aptitude to stop running this process |
| 00:59.21 | Narcissus1 | jpinx: all of my settings are correct, exactly the same as my Ubuntu 8.04 box & my OpenSolaris server |
| 00:59.28 | jpinx | ralfWORK: the chances of you having been r00t'd are pretty high if you're running insecure linux |
| 00:59.32 | Narcissus1 | jpinx: thanks any though :) |
| 00:59.42 | bwwww | hi. I am running etch. I have one user for which .bash_profile is not loaded on ssh login. All other users work. Any idea why .bash_profile is not executing. I tried changing permissions to 774, no luck. |
| 00:59.51 | ralfWORK | Guerin: everything observed is subjected to it, which makes it effectively worthless to mention :) |
| 00:59.54 | jpinx | Narcissus1: don't expect debian to run on ubuntu settings ;) |
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| 01:00.22 | abrotman | mlLK: go to #ubuntu .. last warning |
| 01:00.22 | ralfWORK | jpinx: r00t away my friend |
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| 01:00.39 | Narcissus1 | jpinx: -_- *headdesk* |
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| 01:00.47 | Guerin | ralfWORK: but rootkits more subject than most :) |
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| 01:00.52 | ralfWORK | Guerin: lol |
| 01:02.27 | jelly-home | jpinx: what is "insecure linux"? |
| 01:03.02 | ralfWORK | jpinx: debian/sarge running behind a firewall that never accesses the internet but once a year |
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| 01:03.14 | ralfWORK | s/jpinx/jelly-home |
| 01:03.18 | ralfWORK | it's srs bzns |
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| 01:06.40 | DanDare | I have two files in /etc: the file 'modules' and the file 'modules.conf'. The file modules have some few lines on it, the file modules.conf is empty... wich one file i must use to add my configurations to be loaded at boot time? |
| 01:06.46 | DanDare | *Debian etch |
| 01:07.26 | joltcan | DanDare: Are you adding some options to a module? |
| 01:07.43 | DanDare | joltcan, yeah.. in this case the module bttv |
| 01:07.53 | abrotman | DanDare: /etc/modprobe.d/ |
| 01:08.11 | joltcan | DanDare: So that has changed. Create a file in /etc/modprobe.d/ and call it bttv or something |
| 01:08.30 | DanDare | ok, thanks |
| 01:08.59 | joltcan | DanDare: The last part of http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-modules.html |
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| 01:09.20 | DanDare | ok joltcan very thanks |
| 01:09.23 | DanDare | i will try |
| 01:10.13 | Narcissus1 | Where does debian store the http_proxy variable for all users? |
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| 01:10.37 | jelly-home | ralfWORK: I still have an exposed sarge on the interwebs. Only had to backport bind9 so far. |
| 01:10.47 | Guerin | if you want it to apply for all users put it in the stock profile |
| 01:10.51 | Guerin | Narcissus1: ^ |
| 01:11.05 | Narcissus1 | my assumption is /etc/profile set http_proxy=http://proxything:port |
| 01:11.06 | Narcissus1 | yah? |
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| 01:11.27 | ralfWORK | jelly-home: zomg better update soon! |
| 01:12.26 | Guerin | Narcissus1: users will perfer their own profile, so you'll need to include it in each (or have them do so) |
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| 01:18.18 | DarkKnight | hey how can i start updates from the internet...wen i try to update..it asks me to insert cd |
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| 01:19.38 | jpinx | DarkKnight: check your sources.list |
| 01:19.47 | liable | DarkKnight: comment out the cd line in sources |
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| 01:22.21 | LoveGuru | !lamp |
| 01:22.22 | dpkg | rumour has it, lamp is Linux, Apache, MySQL, {PHP,Perl,Python} server (or see http://wiki.debian.org/LaMp) or maybe Linux Animation and Movie Player, at http://pauillac.inria.fr/lamp/ Ask me about <install debian><install apache2><install mysql><install php>. (Hmm... doesn't that make it a DAMP stack?), or "aptitude install libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server php5-mysql ; a2enmod php5" |
| 01:22.55 | simonrvn | !desk |
| 01:23.00 | simonrvn | :P |
| 01:23.03 | avu | heh |
| 01:23.44 | simonrvn | 'damp' stack is cute |
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| 01:24.03 | jpinx | !tell LoveGuru about msg |
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| 01:24.11 | DarkKnight | so suppose if i want it to first check for cd..and if not found then to install from the internet...then what do i have to do?? |
| 01:24.25 | simonrvn | jpinx: you want "msg the bot" |
| 01:24.42 | jpinx | !msg |
| 01:24.42 | dpkg | (1) Use private messages to the bots to reduce channel spam, but don't message people on #debian without asking permission first. Most questions should be asked on channel, so that others can benefit from the question and the answers received. (2) Always feel free to message freenode network staff. They're the people with hostnames ending in 'staff.freenode'. (3) Monosodium glutamate, a food additive (see http://truthinlabeling.org/). |
| 01:25.03 | jpinx | !msg the bot |
| 01:25.03 | dpkg | Please message the bot... not doing so could be considered an unnecessary flood. Instead of typing "!tell <your nick> about <topic>" you can just type "/msg dpkg <topic>". See also <selftell>. Also visit http://wiki.debian.org/IRC/DpkgBot to learn how to effectively use the factoids database, or ask me about <bot help> <help> |
| 01:25.25 | jpinx | simonrvn: some duplication there ;) |
| 01:25.31 | simonrvn | DarkKnight: erm, you can do that - not directly however - using the netinst; it'll fetch most of the stuff to install via network |
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| 01:25.37 | simonrvn | jpinx: a bit yeh |
| 01:25.52 | iShock | jpinx: Halp? |
| 01:25.57 | jpinx | DarkKnight: if you want to update the latest and greatest will not be on your CD |
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| 01:26.03 | simonrvn | the base install will come from the cd |
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| 01:26.28 | DarkKnight | simonrvn, jpinx; thanq |
| 01:26.35 | HELPADUDE | heyy |
| 01:26.41 | jpinx | DarkKnight: just comment out the references to your CD's as liable suggested |
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| 01:26.53 | HELPADUDE | helllo |
| 01:27.01 | simonrvn | oh, it's not for installing... |
| 01:27.18 | jpinx | simonrvn: he's doing update/upgrades |
| 01:27.33 | DarkKnight | jpinx; i didnt get u |
| 01:27.42 | simonrvn | suggests /ig -replies HELPADUDE |
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| 01:27.50 | iShock | jpinx: I try to log in to my debian install, but I can't log in as my LDAP or local user .. LDAP says invalid something, local says "Authentication module cannot retrieve authentication info" |
| 01:28.13 | simonrvn | iShock: sounds like it isn't running |
| 01:28.21 | iShock | 'It'? |
| 01:28.22 | LoveGuru | jpinx: thx.. next time will be carefull :) |
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| 01:28.37 | simonrvn | or, you've set it up incr %*&% lag incorrectly |
| 01:28.43 | jpinx | LoveGuru: ;) |
| 01:29.00 | iShock | No, all I did was take out my RTC battery for a while to clear a power-on password. |
| 01:29.39 | jjproctor | heeeyyy you can help me buy going to this site and clicking on a ad you dount have to do any thing just click the dam thing and go on with your life PLEASE go to this site click on an AD and give me .10 cents go here--->>> www.freewebs.com/helpadude |
| 01:29.41 | ralfWORK | hmm interesting. setting my relayhost in postfix does not appear to actually make postfix use the relay :P |
| 01:30.03 | iShock | No, all I did was take out my RTC battery for a while to clear a power-on password. jpinx/simonrvn |
| 01:30.27 | jjproctor | heeeyyy you can help me buy going to this site and clicking on a ad you dount have to do any thing just click the dam thing and go on with your life PLEASE go to this site click on an AD and give me .10 cents go here--->>> www.freewebs.com/helpadude |
| 01:30.43 | jpinx | !ops jjproctor spamming |
| 01:30.43 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: jpinx complains about: jjproctor spamming |
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| 01:30.58 | *** mode/#debian [-o stew] by stew |
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| 01:32.04 | simonrvn | \o/ stew |
| 01:32.17 | jpinx | iShock: that's a bit beyond my knowledgebase - not sure what you have done there |
| 01:32.24 | jpinx | ta stew |
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| 01:32.41 | simonrvn | iShock: the ldap server... i'm assuming it's running on your network |
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| 01:33.22 | iShock | It's not. |
| 01:33.57 | iShock | Anything you wish me to do? |
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| 01:34.27 | simonrvn | what's the error, exactly? (use a pastebin for anything over 1 line) |
| 01:34.43 | iShock | Box isn't on-line, I'm not typing it out. :P |
| 01:35.33 | iShock | I'll tell you my LDAP user error and local user error. |
| 01:35.43 | jpinx | iShock: you need to make the effort before you can expect anyone here to make an effort to help you |
| 01:35.54 | iShock | it's a one line error anyway .. |
| 01:36.01 | iShock | LDAP user: Login incorrect |
| 01:36.15 | iShock | Oh, crap, it just died. |
| 01:36.23 | iShock | Should go get the charger lol.. |
| 01:36.39 | simonrvn | O_o |
| 01:37.08 | jpinx | :-$ |
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| 01:38.09 | iShock | Got it. |
| 01:38.30 | iShock | Now if it'll just turn on :< |
| 01:38.45 | iShock | There we are. |
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| 01:41.02 | sharp15 | anyone know where i can find a useful tutorial for setting up a jabber server on debian? the one on debian-administration.org is useless. |
| 01:43.45 | iShock | It's back on, simonrvn |
| 01:44.03 | iShock | Now trying my local login, 'Error in service module' |
| 01:44.16 | iShock | 'Login incorrect' for LDAP user. |
| 01:44.29 | sharp15 | never mind. synapytic started doing something weird. i clicked apply and it didn't install the server. |
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| 01:44.54 | iShock | jpinx, simonrvn? |
| 01:45.29 | simonrvn | iShock: anything in auth.log ? |
| 01:45.35 | simonrvn | or syslog |
| 01:45.42 | iShock | I can't log in, how the hell should I know? :P |
| 01:46.58 | Guerin | iShock: did you try single yet? (sorry, cba with scrollback) |
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| 01:47.04 | Disease | hi |
| 01:47.11 | iShock | Guerin: That works |
| 01:47.18 | Guerin | iShock: then you can read your logs/. |
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| 01:48.05 | Disease | I come in because I have a problem(I think) to install wine 1.1.10 in my debian lenny amd64 ... |
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| 01:48.39 | Guerin | !info wine lenny |
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| 01:48.46 | Disease | where ? |
| 01:49.13 | dpkg | wine: (Windows API implementation - standard suite), section otherosfs, is optional. Version: 1.0.1-1 (lenny), Packaged size: 42 kB, Installed size: 96 kB |
| 01:49.13 | stew | judd: versions wine --arch amd64 |
| 01:49.15 | judd | stew: wine -- etch-backports: 1.0.0-1~bpo40+1 lenny: 1.0.1-1 sid: 1.0.1-1 experimental: 1.1.5-1 |
| 01:49.55 | Guerin | stew: oo, new bot? |
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| 01:50.00 | Guerin | nifty. |
| 01:50.12 | Disease | I was download : wine_1.1.10_amd64.deb |
| 01:50.14 | Guerin | Disease: ask #winehq - that version isn't in debian, so you're more or less on your own with it. |
| 01:50.22 | iShock | Guerin: In as root. What logs should I check? |
| 01:50.23 | Guerin | Disease: downloaded from where? |
| 01:50.33 | Guerin | iShock: auth.log and syslog. |
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| 01:50.41 | Disease | http://www.winehq.org/download/deblenny |
| 01:50.45 | stew | Guerin: yeah, its running an instance of "ultimate debian database" so it knows about every arch, and also knows about stuff like dmm, -volatile, -security excetera, and since its a sql query, its faster |
| 01:50.50 | Guerin | iShock: get the appropriate bits on paster if you can |
| 01:51.10 | Guerin | stew: wicked. |
| 01:51.10 | iShock | If I knew how to paste without a GUI I would :< |
| 01:51.11 | Guerin | Disease: yeah. Ask #winehq how to install it. |
| 01:51.14 | abrotman | !pastewithoutx |
| 01:51.15 | dpkg | i guess pastewithoutx is you can install gpm, which gives you familiar mouse functionality from the console ; or upload a file to http://pastebin.ca/upload.php; or: apt-get install w3m ; w3m http://channels.debian.net/paste ; hit enter on the Big Box, it will open /usr/bin/editor where you can insert the file, then save ; then hit enter on the submit button in w3m, or the "screen" utility also provides keyboard driven copy/paste, or ask me about ... |
| 01:51.20 | Guerin | !paste in cli |
| 01:51.20 | dpkg | in cli: put your output on http://channels.debian.net/paste so we can see it. DO NOT paste into the channel. |
| 01:51.24 | Guerin | woah |
| 01:51.31 | Disease | Guerin, ok |
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| 01:52.18 | jpinx | ishock pastebinit |
| 01:52.24 | stew | Guerin: FE: "/msg judd versions clamav --arch alpha" will show you all the versions it knows about including -backports, -volatile, -security, etc |
| 01:52.39 | iShock | Wait. |
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| 01:52.48 | iShock | How the hell do I exit nano without hitting Ctrl? |
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| 01:52.58 | Guerin | hah |
| 01:53.01 | jpinx | !tell iShock about pastebinit |
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| 01:53.05 | Guerin | is your ctrl still fucked? |
| 01:53.09 | abrotman | jpinx: that's not in etch |
| 01:53.10 | iShock | Yeah. |
| 01:53.10 | Guerin | get thee to a new keyboard |
| 01:53.11 | CcSsNET_ | good one ishock haha |
| 01:53.16 | iShock | I think it's my fault :< |
| 01:53.20 | iShock | CcSsNET_: Gtfo cluenet :> |
| 01:53.21 | Guerin | usually is |
| 01:53.28 | Guerin | both ctrls fail? |
| 01:53.35 | jpinx | abrotman: :( |
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| 01:53.46 | iShock | Guerin: Yeah. |
| 01:53.55 | Guerin | dunno. |
| 01:53.58 | Guerin | g'luck. |
| 01:54.11 | kapipi | Is it still recommended to keep a separate /var today? Do we now how debian behaves if / becomes full? |
| 01:54.11 | iShock | I guess I restart and learn to live with vim :P |
| 01:54.41 | abrotman | kapipi: depends on your system and its purpose |
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| 01:55.04 | Guerin | kapipi: it is in the usual case. Usually it's easy enough to free up some space in / or /var if need be. |
| 01:55.25 | _bk_cutz | hi! im trying to install debian but it doesnt find the hard disk.. somebody help me ? |
| 01:55.46 | iShock | I know why my LDAP login fails, it can't connect to the server because I'm not on-line. How do I dhclient eth0 on startup? |
| 01:55.51 | jpinx | _bk_cutz: what method of install are you trying? |
| 01:55.56 | winnipegr | I formatted a usb stick on another computer, made it fat32. On this computer though it shows up as being owned by my parents. I can't chown it even as root. The problem is I can't write to the usb. I would like all usb's plugged into this machine to be readable/writable. Is this an fstab or a hal solution? |
| 01:56.03 | _bk_cutz | jpinx CD BOOTABLE |
| 01:56.12 | kapipi | Guerin, but will debian stay up if / gets filled and it cant write to /tmp? |
| 01:56.31 | jpinx | _bk_cutz: how far do you get? |
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| 01:56.50 | _bk_cutz | testing |
| 01:56.55 | iShock | jpinx: Can I even edit files without .. wait! |
| 01:56.56 | _bk_cutz | i get today |
| 01:57.04 | _bk_cutz | jpinx today |
| 01:57.07 | jpinx | winnipegr: did you format it on a windows box? |
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| 01:57.38 | jpinx | _bk_cutz: what stage of the install process did you reach? |
| 01:57.53 | _bk_cutz | at hard disk detection for partition configuration |
| 01:58.16 | Guerin | kapipi: yeah. It won't crash. A bunch of shit won't work and it'll freak out a bit. But easy enough to fix. |
| 01:58.30 | jpinx | _bk_cutz: that could be just about anything. Is your HDD plugged in? |
| 01:58.42 | sharp15 | if i create the "jabber" user that debian's packages seem to require does it need a special group or something? |
| 01:58.42 | _bk_cutz | jpinx yes! |
| 01:58.44 | iShock | How do I exit vim? |
| 01:58.50 | Guerin | iShock: :wq |
| 01:58.58 | _bk_cutz | jpinx slackware works |
| 01:59.03 | iShock | Got it. |
| 01:59.04 | _bk_cutz | but debian not |
| 01:59.08 | iShock | And I have working ctrl etc now |
| 01:59.13 | iShock | Found a keyboard :P |
| 01:59.26 | jpinx | _bk_cutz: can you be more specific - are you doing a dual boot system? |
| 01:59.28 | kapipi | Guerin: ok thats interesting |
| 01:59.30 | Guerin | sharp15: you should never haveto create a user that debian packages need. |
| 01:59.43 | iShock | How do I dhclient eth0 on startup? |
| 01:59.53 | sharp15 | Guerin: when i run "aptitude install jabber" i get this |
| 01:59.55 | sharp15 | dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting: syntax error: unknown user `jabber' in statoverride file |
| 01:59.56 | dpkg | You are moron #23, sharp15 |
| 01:59.57 | Guerin | iShock: man interfaces :) |
| 01:59.57 | abrotman | iShock: man interfaces |
| 02:00.03 | jpinx | kapipi: keep aptitude clean up your sleeve to quickly release some space ;) |
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| 02:00.22 | K|NgGh0sT | Syslog is showing a constant stream of XFS errors ( http://pastebin.com/m1a1f6e93 ) and there is massive data degragration going on. Infact everytime I reboot I have to xfsrepair -L it just to be able to mount the filesystem. Anyone have a clue how to fix this? |
| 02:00.26 | sharp15 | thanks dpkg. |
| 02:00.44 | Guerin | K|NgGh0sT: touch /forcefsck && reboot |
| 02:00.50 | iShock | auto eth0, iface eth0 inet dhcp? |
| 02:01.44 | K|NgGh0sT | Guerin, alright brb |
| 02:01.49 | iShock | auto eth0, iface eth0 inet dhcp? |
| 02:02.27 | iShock | auto eth0, iface eth0 inet dhcp client dhclient ? |
| 02:02.39 | iShock | Wait, I think I misread man .. |
| 02:02.53 | iShock | auto eth0, iface eth0 inet dhcp? Anyone? |
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| 02:03.39 | kapipi | jpinx: ah yeah, well actually im just wondering.. i usually have a separate /var but today I found out one of my coworkers put a 2GB /var on a email/web/samba server |
| 02:04.25 | sharp15 | now dpkg and apt are refusing to function at all. great. |
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| 02:04.36 | iShock | auto eth0, iface eth0 inet dhcp? Anyone? jpinx? |
| 02:04.40 | simonrvn | iShock: auto eth0\niface eth0 inet dhcp |
| 02:04.41 | abrotman | iShock: try it and see |
| 02:04.51 | simonrvn | \n being a newline, of course |
| 02:05.00 | iShock | I know simonrvn, I write bots in PHP :P |
| 02:05.04 | sharp15 | how do i get aptitude/apt-get/synaptic to ignore a failed package install? |
| 02:05.31 | simonrvn | hehe, ok :). some people don't know that stuff. |
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| 02:06.05 | winnipegr | jpinx: No. A fedora one, but it was formatted using gparted. |
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| 02:06.46 | mydrmeix | i have changes in aptitude, how can I forget them all? |
| 02:06.53 | jpinx | winnipegr: Hmm -- not sure if that is good, but it is generally better to format vfat fs's in MS boxes |
| 02:07.27 | jpinx | has forgotten what winnipegr 's original problem is |
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| 02:07.52 | winnipegr | No windows boxes around. But my brother's mac can read and write to it, and the fedora laptop can read and write to it... but I can't write to the fat32 usb stick. It says I don't have permission. |
| 02:08.11 | Guerin | that's probably a mounting issue |
| 02:08.25 | jpinx | winnipegr: vfat doesn't accept chown |
| 02:08.30 | winnipegr | There is nothing in fstab about this disk, but I don't want to fix it for just this one stick. I want any stick that is plugged in here to be full read write for everyone |
| 02:08.31 | Guerin | vfat filesystems created under *n?xen work fine; I use them everywhere |
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| 02:08.36 | jpinx | or chmod |
| 02:08.57 | Guerin | oh, he's trying to apply *n?x permissions? Fail. |
| 02:09.01 | jpinx | bows to Guerin 's greater experience |
| 02:09.08 | lfaraone | Does anybody know how to boot a Debian CD on a Sun Ultra 10? |
| 02:09.10 | mydrmeix | do a /dev/sdb1 /mnt/memory vfat rw,owner,user 0 0 to fstab |
| 02:09.33 | Firefishe | Hi Craigevil :) |
| 02:09.44 | Guerin | lfaraone: cd boot systems should be standard - it should Just Work. If not, ask Sun (or sun hardware geeks) |
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| 02:09.59 | Craigevil_ | evening Firefishe |
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| 02:10.06 | Guerin | winnipegr: /msg dpkg vfatrw |
| 02:10.24 | winnipegr | jpinx: The comment about ownerships was from when it was ext3. But I've since formatted it to fat32. And no, haven't tried to chown or chmod the fat32, though Debian still strangely reports that it has an owner |
| 02:10.27 | mydrmeix | hi, aptitude is going to kill my system if I install the changes, how can I reset aptitude? |
| 02:10.39 | K|NgGh0sT | Guerin, how do I clean my syslog so I can see if I am still getting the errors? |
| 02:11.15 | Guerin | K|NgGh0sT: you don't. use tail(1) to see if new aerrors are being added |
| 02:11.16 | lfaraone | Guerin: it uses openboot. |
| 02:11.23 | lfaraone | Guerin: and it was EOL'd in 2002 |
| 02:11.44 | Guerin | lfaraone: try #sun or #solaris or something |
| 02:11.53 | Guerin | it's a hardware issue, not a debian issue |
| 02:11.55 | jpinx | winnipegr: not sure if Guerin agrees, but nearly all usb sticks I have come across are "hardwired" as vfat filesystems and attempts to reformat as ext3 break them |
| 02:12.01 | Guerin | once the cd boots it becomes a debian issue |
| 02:12.18 | Firefishe | evening, Craigevil_. Just got my 8.10 kubuntu cd, and am live-testing it. I'm impressed. All those problems with debian I had a few days ago (don't know if you remember or not), are gone. DNS lookup is fast and consistent across the browsers (FF3, konq), wireless is working, and sound is excellent. Have to test the ethernet but that's all. Everything else seems to be fine. 32 bit version I think will do for now, although I do have 4gb memory. PAE |
| 02:12.20 | Firefishe | is needed to access it, correct? |
| 02:12.20 | superjet_busy | failed to fire up conky and cups with same error: Inconsistency detected by ld.so: ../sysdeps/i386/dl-machine.h: 550: elf_machine_rel_relative: Assertion `((reloc->r_info) & 0xff) == 8' failed! |
| 02:12.21 | Guerin | foirmatting flash media as ext3 is retarded |
| 02:12.26 | Firefishe | blast |
| 02:12.32 | Guerin | ext2, maybe, but you also need to repartition |
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| 02:12.40 | Firefishe | forget the last sentences, wrong bloody room! sorry people |
| 02:12.45 | superjet_busy | what's the problem? |
| 02:12.47 | Firefishe | *bonk* |
| 02:12.48 | jpinx | Firefishe: please use #ubuntu |
| 02:12.54 | Guerin | !pal Firefishe :) |
| 02:12.54 | dpkg | points at Firefishe :) and laughs |
| 02:13.17 | K|NgGh0sT | Guerin, ya still errors Dec 10 21:12:34 slutb0x kernel: [ 566.129667] Filesystem "dm-0": Corruption of in-memory data detected. Shutting down filesystem: dm-0 |
| 02:14.02 | Guerin | K|NgGh0sT: beyond me. Good luck. |
| 02:14.03 | Firefishe | jpinx: I know, I know *eyeroll* (Someone get them for me and toss them back, k? ;) ) |
| 02:14.05 | scientes | does debootstrap work with apt-cacher? |
| 02:14.11 | iShock | Woo, I fixed it! |
| 02:14.14 | Firefishe | Thanks Guerin... |
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| 02:14.26 | Guerin | scientes: doubtful, since it has hard-wired URLs to packages |
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| 02:14.31 | Guerin | iShock: hooray! |
| 02:14.38 | scientes | Guerin, thats ugly |
| 02:14.52 | Guerin | scientes: it presumes practically no infrastructure whatsoever |
| 02:14.56 | iShock | All I needed to do was connect to the net on boot so I could connect to the LDAP server :P |
| 02:14.56 | scientes | debian needs to work together |
| 02:15.12 | Guerin | scientes: you can edit those urls to use your own repo. |
| 02:15.32 | scientes | idk if aptcacher can work like a native repo |
| 02:15.33 | abrotman | dpkg: fix jabber.org |
| 02:15.33 | dpkg | takes jabber.org to the vet for a "special" visit. |
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| 02:15.45 | abrotman | scientes: can you specify your own repo with debootstrap ? |
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| 02:16.13 | Guerin | scientes: debootstrap doesn't use repos - because it presumes no apt infrastructure. so just point it to the files on a local or remote server. |
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| 02:17.46 | AutoMatriX | hi folks, is there any way to make the ssh-server play a soundfile when someone's logging in ? |
| 02:17.58 | Guerin | god, what an annoying thing |
| 02:18.35 | Guerin | you wouldn't have ssh-server do it, you'd use something which monitors auth.log or who or somesuch |
| 02:18.35 | jpinx | sheeesh - what'll it play - "Welcome to my world"? ;) |
| 02:18.47 | Guerin | but if anyone did that on my network I would eviscerate them |
| 02:18.58 | karsten | Hrm. This looks kinda cool an dmight actually solve a "why *is* that machine mysteriously panicking. Kernel network logging via netconsole: http://lwn.net/2001/0927/a/netconsole.php3 |
| 02:19.01 | jpinx | AutoMatriX: maybe use ngrep |
| 02:19.33 | AutoMatriX | jpinx, I'm affraid I'll have to ask you to explain me a bit further |
| 02:20.04 | karsten | AutoMatriX: That's a job for snort or another log-watcher. You could trigger any sort of event you wanted to. |
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| 02:20.24 | jpinx | AutoMatriX: it'sa grep for network connections |
| 02:20.28 | karsten | Guerin: Ok. We'll just put the shock-blanket on your chair and wire that up instead. |
| 02:20.36 | AutoMatriX | karsten, jpinx thanks :D |
| 02:20.52 | clever | how would i go about packaging the nvidia driver into a debian package? |
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| 02:21.04 | karsten | !nvidia |
| 02:21.04 | dpkg | To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. If you've done it before, asking me about <nvidia pre-built> or <nvidia m-a> might work (if you're using a GeForce 2 or older, ask me about <nvidia_legacy>). nvidia.com drivers (ie. <nvidia-installer>) are _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia (irc.freenode.net). |
| 02:21.15 | mydrmeix | ok aptitude wants to download 22GB and delete 247 files. how can I stop it so nothing to be done |
| 02:21.23 | karsten | clever: ... or "correctly", whichever you prefer. |
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| 02:21.30 | karsten | mydrmeix: ctrl-C |
| 02:21.40 | mydrmeix | i go back it wants to do it again |
| 02:21.50 | clever | karsten: the beta version of the nvidia driver, which isnt packaged yet |
| 02:21.52 | karsten | mydrmeix: ... or just say no. You can configure to prompt for approval on all actions. |
| 02:21.58 | jpinx | mydrmeix: say "N" |
| 02:22.10 | clever | karsten: i want to assemble the files into a .deb so dpkg knows about the files |
| 02:22.15 | karsten | mydrmeix: Um, tell us more. What are you doing? What command are you using? What are you trying to do? |
| 02:22.40 | abrotman | clever: uhm .. already been done |
| 02:22.48 | karsten | clever: alien is the easiest way. I don't play with nvidia, suspect that the instructions may actually point you at how to package the driver if you follow them. |
| 02:22.49 | clever | abrotman: the 180.06 version? |
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| 02:23.01 | karsten | clever: See prior answer. |
| 02:23.14 | clever | http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers ? |
| 02:23.17 | abrotman | NFC .. i avoid nvidia like karsten avoids danish women |
| 02:23.32 | mydrmeix | karsten: im running aptitude, I tried to install x-server-core in sid which isnt there and now everything wants to change |
| 02:23.43 | abrotman | judd: versions nvidia-glx |
| 02:23.44 | judd | abrotman: nvidia-glx -- etch/non-free: 1.0.8776-4 lenny/non-free: 173.14.09-5 sid/non-free: 173.14.09-5 experimental/non-free: 177.80-1 |
| 02:23.48 | abrotman | close enough |
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| 02:24.18 | karsten | mydrmeix: x-server-core is a lot of stuff. Pastebin the output. |
| 02:24.24 | karsten | !tell mydrmeix about pastebin |
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| 02:24.30 | jpinx | mydrmeix: the joys of running sid ;) |
| 02:24.32 | Xenguy | I decided to do a test (no pun intended) install of lenny on my semi-expendable laptop, and was surprised to see it asking for 2 additional Gb of space for the install (in the end *think* it took even more space than this). I'm wondering if this amount of additional disk space for Lenny seems within spec? |
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| 02:24.54 | karsten | mydrmeix: And yeah, what Debian release? |
| 02:24.59 | jpinx | Xenguy: depends on what packages you install |
| 02:25.09 | abrotman | Xenguy: you included some desktop junk ? |
| 02:25.16 | jpinx | karsten: he's running sid |
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| 02:25.46 | karsten | mydrmeix: Get used to this. |
| 02:25.50 | jpinx | Xenguy: gnome is over 1Gb on it's own ;) |
| 02:26.06 | mydrmeix | karsten: cant I delete some type of config that holds the changes that havent been pressed? |
| 02:26.07 | Xenguy | jpinx abrotman Yes it is a desktop system; I just did a dist-upgrade though, so it seems like a lot of diskspace needed :-/ |
| 02:26.25 | abrotman | Xenguy: you'd have to compare package lists to see if additional packages got installed |
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| 02:27.00 | karsten | mydrmeix: running aptitude interactively you can revert/cancel any changes, though I don't do that. |
| 02:27.03 | jpinx | Xenguy: you might find that aptitude will remove some stuff when you do update and full-upgrade |
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| 02:27.22 | mydrmeix | karsten: im running interactively |
| 02:28.06 | Xenguy | jpinx: I confess I used apt-get not aptitude, but I trust that's not totally 'illegal' yet ;-) |
| 02:28.11 | clever | ahh i found the package i wanted to make:) |
| 02:28.31 | jpinx | Xenguy: iirc apt-get is not as intelligent as aptitude |
| 02:28.57 | Xenguy | jpinx: I know, I know :-) My old habits die hard I guess |
| 02:29.04 | jpinx | Xenguy: you can run aptitude update and aptitude full-upgrade later |
| 02:29.25 | jpinx | Xenguy: join the club - I only started using aptitude recently |
| 02:30.15 | jpinx | Xenguy: just make sure you install aptitude before you start the dist-upgrade |
| 02:32.03 | mydrmeix | duh, that C-T: menu was a command-T, hah |
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| 02:32.42 | Xenguy | jpinx: hrm, looks like this pass of dist-upgrade just finish (3 packages held back; I'll install those now). Yes, after my initial 'apt-get update' (to Lenny) I did an 'apt-get install apt dpkg aptitude' as instructed by, er, someone/thing/page |
| 02:33.25 | jpinx | Xenguy: cool -- now use it ;) |
| 02:33.48 | K|NgGh0sT | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:33.49 | Xenguy | heheh |
| 02:33.55 | karsten | Xenguy: aptitude is much saner than apt-get. |
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| 02:35.24 | andy753421 | I am trying to use python-gtk and would like to use it with python2.5. How do I install the package against the 2.5 version of python instead of the (default) 2.4 version? |
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| 02:35.38 | Xenguy | karsten: well it seems to be the overwhelming majority opinion from any reading I've done over the months, though I did notice that there was some recent question on some mailing list about whether the release notes should change back to recommending apt instead of aptitude - I'm not really sure why (the details I mean) |
| 02:37.23 | karsten | Xenguy: /msg dpkg aptitude for the basics. |
| 02:37.59 | karsten | Xenguy: aptitude is standard in current stable Debian (and oldstable possibly). My personal fave ref is Joey Hess's mailing list post on the topic. |
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| 02:38.29 | karsten | Xenguy: http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Debian/2004-04/3181.html |
| 02:38.32 | d-b | karsten: is there a real difference ? |
| 02:38.39 | karsten | d-b: Yes. |
| 02:39.08 | karsten | Xenguy: I found one instance where aptitude didn't play nice with dselect, filed a bug on it, have largely foregiven the issue. |
| 02:39.20 | d-b | karsten: i haven't really noticed -> both apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade --> and the aptitude method work. just aptitude handles things / seems to for me nicer. |
| 02:39.28 | karsten | Xenguy: The other gripe is "apt-get is faster". Well, that's 'coz aptitude is getting it *right*. |
| 02:39.34 | karsten | d-b: Read the link I just posted. |
| 02:39.45 | d-b | ok |
| 02:40.07 | Xenguy | karsten: thanks for the pointers |
| 02:40.07 | karsten | d-b: invocation-wise, the two commands are very nearly identical. aptitude does several things behind the scenes, detailed in the post. |
| 02:40.43 | Xenguy | continues to finish the upgrade, then see if X will actually work ;-) ... |
| 02:40.50 | karsten | OK, I've just learned about this, and frankly, it rocks: http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/networking/netconsole.txt |
| 02:41.02 | karsten | Kernel logging over the network, no serial cables required. |
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| 02:42.46 | d-b | karsten: yeah people also do that with uboot ^^ |
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| 02:44.31 | karsten | d-b: Wozzat? |
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| 02:45.19 | karsten | d-b: http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT5085702347.html ? |
| 02:45.31 | d-b | yeah that's it |
| 02:45.43 | d-b | http://buffalo.nas-central.org/index.php/U-boot_bootloader |
| 02:45.53 | karsten | d-b: Um, and that relates to kernel logging how? |
| 02:46.16 | d-b | karsten: you can send the initial logs over the network. |
| 02:46.17 | abrotman | karsten: you know .. when you boot, you log stuff |
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| 02:46.32 | d-b | its related -> grabs the early panics |
| 02:46.37 | kaist | how do i force apt to remove a package? |
| 02:46.56 | kaist | or more specifically, how do I fix a problem with this package? |
| 02:47.14 | d-b | kaist: which package ? |
| 02:47.52 | abrotman | kaist: paste the problem in a pastebin |
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| 02:48.46 | kaist | linux-image-2.6.26-1-powerpc |
| 02:48.55 | kaist | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/m58c8ed29 |
| 02:49.17 | karsten | d-b: OK. |
| 02:49.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | that was commendably quick :) |
| 02:49.23 | kaist | i'm pretty sure this is a problem due to corruption thanks to me using xfs as the root fs |
| 02:49.25 | d-b | kaist: you will need a kernel image to boot from... |
| 02:49.40 | karsten | abrotman: I usuall log stuff about half an hour after booting -- usually just after breakfast and coffee. |
| 02:49.43 | kaist | d-b: i plan on reinstalling the upgraded version |
| 02:49.48 | karsten | abrotman: But that's jus tme. |
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| 02:50.25 | abrotman | karsten: ick |
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| 02:50.38 | karsten | :) |
| 02:50.53 | kaist | any ideas on how to fix this properly? |
| 02:50.59 | abrotman | kaist: did you check the BTS ? |
| 02:51.02 | winnipegr | I still haven't been able to have this stick mounted automatically by hal such that I can write anything to it. Other sticks don't work either. It's a gnome or a hal thing I think. |
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| 02:51.13 | kaist | abrotman: BTS? |
| 02:51.20 | d-b | !bts |
| 02:51.20 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. Useful for unstable and testing: aptitude install apt-listbugs <apt-listchanges> . |
| 02:51.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | hehe |
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| 02:52.06 | jpinx | winnipegr: pastebin the command and output you get |
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| 02:52.41 | winnipegr | jpinx: I'm not typing any commands in. I'm just plugging it in and it gets mounted automagically. |
| 02:52.50 | jpinx | winnipegr: can you mount it rw manually? |
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| 02:53.47 | jpinx | winnipegr: plug it in, umount it and try mounting it rw manually |
| 02:54.06 | jpinx | if that works the problem is most likely in /etc/fstab |
| 02:54.26 | jpinx | goes for more beer |
| 02:54.49 | winnipegr | Yeah... I'm just gonna turn off the auto-mounting thing. But I don't want to mess with fstab, because I need this thing to mount *every* usb stick that is plugged in with read / write... not just this one. |
| 02:55.33 | mydrmeix | noauto |
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| 02:56.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | winnipegr, that doesn't normally happen in fstab |
| 02:56.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | winnipegr, you should find out what automounts it... |
| 02:56.22 | kaist | abrotman: nothing that I can see |
| 02:56.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | winnipegr, check in your logs |
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| 02:57.51 | abrotman | kaist: maybe ask #debianppc on irc.oftc.net |
| 02:58.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | kaist, look at /etc/kernel/postrm.d/mkvmlinuz - if it starts with #!/bin/sh you can change that to #!/bin/sh -x and rerun dpkg - that will tell you the command that fails |
| 02:58.29 | kaist | thanks CutMeOwnThroat |
| 02:58.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | kaist, but I don't have /etc/kernel/postrm.d/ at all... so obviously ppc is rather different from i386 in how the kernel modules are organized |
| 02:59.11 | abrotman | or he's not using debian |
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| 02:59.29 | abrotman | kaist: are you using debian or something else? |
| 02:59.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | impossible, then he wouldn't ask in #debian |
| 02:59.35 | kaist | debian |
| 02:59.38 | Gh0sTeE | Can anyone help me get xfsprogs-2.10.2? |
| 02:59.45 | abrotman | kaist: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 .. what is the version ? |
| 03:00.06 | abrotman | isn't going to turn on his PPC to check if he has that dir |
| 03:00.19 | kaist | 2.7-16 |
| 03:01.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | lenny... |
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| 03:01.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | er |
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| 03:02.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | s/kernel modules/kernel packages/ |
| 03:02.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | self-typing fingers, obviously |
| 03:03.05 | kaist | here's the error output from that script CutMeOwnThroat |
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| 03:04.07 | kaist | CutMeOwnThroat: http://pastebin.com/m56157045 |
| 03:05.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | what do you make of it? :) |
| 03:05.49 | winnipegr | I'm having trouble because only root is allowed to mount |
| 03:06.06 | winnipegr | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:06.12 | kaist | well, i get the impression it's looking for a file named bootloaders which is in the mkvmlinuz directory |
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| 03:06.39 | kaist | problem being mkvmlinuz is a script, not a directory |
| 03:07.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | db_get... |
| 03:07.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | database? |
| 03:07.54 | kaist | I have no idea |
| 03:08.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | should be a command - try man db_get |
| 03:08.24 | kaist | no entry |
| 03:08.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | or "type db_get" to see where the command is |
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| 03:08.37 | kaist | not found |
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| 03:09.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh, it's a function defined in /usr/share/debconf/confmodule |
| 03:09.36 | jpinx | winnipegr: use sudo |
| 03:09.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | that's a file I have :) |
| 03:09.44 | faithfulgeek | can anyone help me setup a usb drive for booting? following the instructions in the manual is giving me a grub error |
| 03:10.17 | craigevil | faithfulgeek: try http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ |
| 03:10.20 | jpinx | faithfulgeek: does your bios support booting from a usb device? |
| 03:10.36 | faithfulgeek | jpinx: yes, I did it with another distro |
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| 03:10.59 | abrotman | !usb install |
| 03:10.59 | dpkg | usb install is, like, Yes, it is possible to boot Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key, as long as your computer BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/i386/ch04s04.html.en , see "usb stick" section, http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ for images. (Older, outdated articles http://d-i.pascal.at/ and http://wiki.debian.org/USB-HD_Boot_Full_Debian) |
| 03:11.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | kaist, so it _is_ querying a database for mkvmlinuz/bootloaders and the query fails |
| 03:11.19 | jpinx | faithfulgeek: wot he said |
| 03:11.39 | faithfulgeek | heh, that's the guide I followed, got grub errors 15 and 17 |
| 03:11.50 | kaist | seems to be |
| 03:12.01 | jpinx | faithfulgeek: pastbin your output? |
| 03:12.04 | faithfulgeek | I'll try craigevil's suggestion |
| 03:12.21 | kaist | i can't reinstall debconf atm |
| 03:13.04 | infinity1 | how can i get iowait out of /proc/stat |
| 03:13.13 | K|NgGh0sT | Any other way to get xfsprogs-2.10.2 instead of making it yourself? |
| 03:13.15 | faithfulgeek | jpinx: just says Grub loading stage1.5 Grup loadng.... error 15 |
| 03:13.17 | jpinx | faithfulgeek: are you trying to install or just to boot? |
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| 03:13.39 | jpinx | faithfulgeek: are you trying to install or just to boot? |
| 03:13.45 | jpinx | sheeesh |
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| 03:14.50 | faithfulgeek | client keeps crashing... |
| 03:14.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | kaist, I wonder if the entry in the database is wrong or the query |
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| 03:14.59 | K|NgGh0sT | guess not |
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| 03:15.56 | jpinx | faithfulgeek: are you trying to install or just to boot? |
| 03:17.14 | _bk_cutz | hi! im trying to install debian but it doesnt find the hard disk.. somebody help me ? |
| 03:17.38 | jpinx | _bk_cutz: what have you tried since you last asked this question? |
| 03:17.53 | _bk_cutz | jpinx nothing i was busy |
| 03:18.03 | _bk_cutz | sorry my bad english i am braziliam ok ? |
| 03:18.18 | _bk_cutz | jpinx but can u help me man ? |
| 03:18.55 | jpinx | !portuguese |
| 03:18.55 | dpkg | Por favor use #debian-pt para ajuda em portugues ou #debian-br para ajuda em portugues do brasil. ( /join #debian-pt ) |
| 03:19.18 | _bk_cutz | jpinx nobody can help me at debian-br |
| 03:19.28 | _bk_cutz | jpinx please help me =( |
| 03:19.36 | kaist | CutMeOwnThroat: is there any way to repair the db? |
| 03:19.47 | jpinx | it could be one or more of so many things |
| 03:20.07 | jpinx | is your hdd working with another OS? |
| 03:20.28 | _bk_cutz | jpinx yes it works with windows and slackware |
| 03:20.51 | faithfulgeek | jpinx: install |
| 03:20.56 | jpinx | how are you trying to install debian? |
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| 03:21.22 | faithfulgeek | jpinx: I'm trying to install from my usb disk via netinst |
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| 03:21.45 | jpinx | _bk_cutz: how are you trying to install? |
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| 03:22.33 | kaist | thanks for the help |
| 03:22.33 | _bk_cutz | with cd |
| 03:22.39 | _bk_cutz | bootable |
| 03:22.40 | faithfulgeek | jpinx: sorry, switched clients, limechat kept crashing on me |
| 03:22.49 | winnipegr | I think i've found my problem: http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.user/browse_thread/thread/3ad299d1ae7069bf |
| 03:22.53 | _bk_cutz | trying by default installation |
| 03:22.53 | kaist | i'll just reinstall on ext3 partition at a later date |
| 03:22.54 | _bk_cutz | and expert |
| 03:23.01 | _bk_cutz | both failed |
| 03:23.09 | winnipegr | Essentially I have to remove the usb stick... have only one user logged in, then plug in the usb stick |
| 03:23.13 | winnipegr | mI'm gonna test it now. |
| 03:23.28 | jpinx | winnipegr: good luck |
| 03:23.33 | Xenguy | Well lenny looks spiffy, some minor tweaks to fix a few minor issues, and less disk space, but oh well, that's progress for ya ;-) thanks for the advice, and TTYL |
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| 03:24.08 | jpinx | _bk_cutz: where and when did you get the install CD? |
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| 03:25.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | kaist..... no autocmplete... gorn |
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| 03:25.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh, there it was remote host who closed his connection |
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| 03:26.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | not worth figuring stuff out when ppl just leave |
| 03:26.55 | Firefishe | Hey CutMeOwnThroat |
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| 03:27.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | hey Firefishe |
| 03:28.09 | jpinx | did someone shout "abandon ship"?:( |
| 03:28.51 | Firefishe | jpinx: If that was a reference to me, I'm back on lenny. |
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| 03:29.37 | jpinx | Firefishe: no - it was a reference to people asking for help and then exiting |
| 03:29.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | jpinx, dunno... did someone shout "sharks, sharks!"? |
| 03:29.47 | Firefishe | jpinx: ah |
| 03:29.57 | winnipegr | Well, that was the problem. If you plug a usb disk while on one user it remains owned by that user until you reboot |
| 03:30.00 | jpinx | heh - maybe Firefishe Firefishe |
| 03:30.12 | Firefishe | jpinx: heh ;) |
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| 03:30.27 | jpinx | winnipegr: Err -- that's a no-brainer |
| 03:30.31 | winnipegr | I rebooted logged in only with my own account and was able to write to it fine. If I switch to my parents account though I won't be able to write to it anymore. |
| 03:30.34 | Firefishe | Does the process 'avahi-daemon' handle dns lookup caching? |
| 03:31.10 | jpinx | winnipegr: but you only have to log out and back in |
| 03:32.13 | winnipegr | ah well. I appreciate the efforts jpinx |
| 03:32.20 | jpinx | winnipegr: to be exact - log in as user001 and plug it in - wrtie to it, unplug it, log out log ina s user 002, plug it in and write to it |
| 03:33.00 | jpinx | winnipegr: it's a matter of not confusing the system -- or yourself :) |
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| 03:33.22 | winnipegr | I will give that a try. And be more careful in the future. |
| 03:34.42 | Firefishe | I am thoroughly confuzzled. Konqueror is taking over a minute to load a simple page. Iceweasel's performance is a bit better, but I still fail to see why my lookup and page load times are so slow on a 64bit system. |
| 03:35.02 | lfaraone | Firefishe: because something in the network stack is borked. |
| 03:35.10 | lfaraone | Firefishe: or your network upstream is |
| 03:35.19 | jpinx | Firefishe: ping the target ;) |
| 03:35.45 | lfaraone | How do I have dpkg run me throught he same confirgure script it ran when I installed debian and chose a mirror? |
| 03:35.56 | faithfulgeek | sweet, unetbootin booted for me |
| 03:36.15 | lfaraone | Netselect-apt gives me nothing but pain. (ISP dislikes all the lookups and freezes my line) |
| 03:36.23 | jpinx | lfaraone: try apt-spy if you're on lenny |
| 03:36.27 | lfaraone | faithfulgeek: that's what it does :) |
| 03:36.29 | Firefishe | my network stack *is* borked. I had someone help me a few days ago regarding this issue. He put it through some professional software and looked at the packet streams. My dns's sometimes are dropped, or take a long time. |
| 03:36.31 | karsten | Any way I can trigger a logged kernel event? |
| 03:36.31 | lfaraone | jpinx: will do |
| 03:36.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | lfaraone, or just edit /etc/apt/sources.list to your liking |
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| 03:36.59 | karsten | I want to test that netconsole is working. |
| 03:37.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | lfaraone, also /msg dpkg debian mirrors |
| 03:37.22 | dondelelcaro | Firefishe: are you using a local dns server? or your ISPs? or something else? |
| 03:37.22 | faithfulgeek | lfaraone: and better than the debian guide was able to do :) |
| 03:37.30 | Firefishe | I just tried another <non named> distro's live cd. 32 bit architecture, 2.6.27 kernel. everything worked and was detected. I'm trying to narrow it down in lenny. |
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| 03:37.50 | jpinx | Firefishe: try different nameservers? |
| 03:37.52 | Firefishe | is there a 2.6.27 kernel image out yet? |
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| 03:38.03 | Firefishe | jpinx: tried opendns, etc. no change |
| 03:38.08 | karsten | !kernel |
| 03:38.10 | dpkg | Linux kernel versions, stable: 2.6.27.8, prepatch: 2.6.28-rc8, 2.4: 2.4.37, 2.2: 2.2.26, prepatch: 2.2.27-rc2, -mm patch: 2.6.28-rc2-mm1 |
| 03:38.11 | karsten | Firefishe: Looks like |
| 03:38.51 | lfaraone | CutMeOwnThroat: I don't have WWW right now (due to said ISP inet lockdown), can you give me a random US mirror while I try to apt-get update? (my apt cache went byebye0 |
| 03:39.24 | abrotman | Firefishe: not in debian |
| 03:39.24 | jpinx | Firefishe: I took some time to find a nameserver physically close to me and it improved my situation a lot |
| 03:39.24 | lfaraone | Firefishe: also try 4.2.2.3, FIOS |
| 03:39.28 | lfaraone | (level 3) |
| 03:39.42 | Firefishe | what is that? |
| 03:39.59 | lfaraone | Firefishe: that is verizon's DNS servers, hosted at level3 |
| 03:40.00 | abrotman | a dns server IP |
| 03:40.26 | lfaraone | Firefishe: level3 is a backbone provider. they have loads of bandwidth. if that doesn't work... |
| 03:40.32 | Firefishe | oh...do I append that to /etc/resolv.conf, and nix the others? |
| 03:40.52 | lfaraone | Firefishe: mhm |
| 03:41.00 | Firefishe | k |
| 03:41.03 | Firefishe | one sec, I"ll try it |
| 03:41.06 | jpinx | Firefishe: depends on whether you're behind a router |
| 03:41.18 | Firefishe | I'm running ethernet to a router. |
| 03:41.40 | Firefishe | which, in turn, is connected to my isp |
| 03:41.42 | jpinx | Firefishe: nameservers are likely specified in your router |
| 03:42.03 | jpinx | I have a similar setup and I tweaked th routers settings |
| 03:42.47 | Firefishe | jpinx: Thing is, the router settings are the same as for the other distro live cd. Don't know if that will help here, or not. I'm sure it's something very simple that I'm missing here |
| 03:44.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | lfaraone, sure - use lines like deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib |
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| 03:44.52 | sharp15 | anyone know if aptitude/apt should be able to start the ejabberd server automatically immediately after installing the package? |
| 03:45.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | lfaraone, security.debian.org doesn't have mirrors... so that line stays the same |
| 03:45.01 | ryanCH | i have an install cd, and it freezes about half way through kernel boot process, how do i go about diagnosing this problem? |
| 03:45.05 | sharp15 | this is the debian package on a debian box. |
| 03:45.07 | jpinx | Firefishe: not sure what to suggest then - :-| |
| 03:46.00 | Firefishe | jpinx: Tell me, where can I find a 'typically correct' presentation of a regularly normal dhcp setup in debian, preferably in a howto or something? |
| 03:46.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | Firefishe, don't *append* new nameservers to resolv.conf - replace the entries |
| 03:46.36 | d-b | Firefishe: a server or a client ? |
| 03:46.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | Firefishe, the trick is to remove the broken nameserver, not to add valid ones |
| 03:47.07 | Firefishe | d-b: Well, probably a client. I'm on a laptop. |
| 03:47.16 | Guerin | Firefishe: man interfaces |
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| 03:48.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | Firefishe, nameservers will be used top-to-bottom in that file (at least according to manpages) so adding "good ones" at the bottom doesn't do sh...ellfish |
| 03:48.48 | lfaraone | jpinx: I'm getting an odd error with apt-spy: hCouldn't find country US . Skipping. |
| 03:48.56 | lfaraone | (minus "h") |
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| 03:49.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | united states, usa, america? |
| 03:49.15 | Firefishe | CutMeOwnThroat: So just can the three that are there and put the verizon one there. |
| 03:49.21 | abrotman | lfaraone: you mean you did -a US ? |
| 03:49.35 | lfaraone | abrotman: -a North-America |
| 03:49.41 | abrotman | okay .. just checking |
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| 03:49.53 | lfaraone | abrotman: and it gives errors for CA and MX as well |
| 03:50.05 | abrotman | because canada isn't a real country |
| 03:50.09 | abrotman | there's also netselect-apt |
| 03:50.10 | lfaraone | abrotman: of course! |
| 03:50.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | Firefishe, yeah... I think only 3 are used anyways - adding a 4th does exactly nil |
| 03:50.18 | Firefishe | abrotman! |
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| 03:50.25 | abrotman | i didn't do it? |
| 03:50.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | hehe... like austria? |
| 03:50.33 | Firefishe | canada isn't real? |
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| 03:50.41 | abrotman | !sing blame canada |
| 03:50.41 | dpkg | sings "blame canada" until all the glass within 1 mile bursts. |
| 03:50.46 | abrotman | wtf |
| 03:50.50 | lfaraone | abrotman: as I've said, my ISP dislikes that. It has a habit of rendering my pipe useless for new TCP requests for 10 minutes |
| 03:50.56 | lfaraone | *connections |
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| 03:51.14 | d-b | lfaraone: use opendns or other dns |
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| 03:51.18 | abrotman | thinks someone doesn't know how to use the bot |
| 03:51.26 | abrotman | lfaraone: that sounds .. bad |
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| 03:51.33 | d-b | otherwise switch companies |
| 03:51.58 | abrotman | !sing blame canada |
| 03:51.59 | dpkg | blame canada, blame canada, it seems that everythings gone wrong since canada came along, blame canada, blame canada, they're not even a real country, anyway |
| 03:52.02 | abrotman | whooo! |
| 03:52.05 | jpinx | lfaraone: sounds like you need a different ISP if there's one available to you |
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| 03:52.15 | lfaraone | d-b: FiOS. Verizon. And it's not DNS, ping (random IP) fails too. |
| 03:52.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | doh |
| 03:52.20 | Guerin | lfaraone: your ISP does what when you do what? |
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| 03:52.43 | Firefishe | observes...stealthily...every single *moose*...stalking...stalking...stalking abrotman... |
| 03:52.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:52.56 | abrotman | moose .. stealth .. ha! |
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| 03:53.03 | lfaraone | Guerin: if I run netselect-apt twice (does 200 lookups and pings each time) I'm unable to open new TCP connections on any machine in my network for a couple of minutes. |
| 03:53.09 | Firefishe | Shouldn't blame Canada, abrotman ;) hee |
| 03:53.12 | Guerin | had an isp which poisoned my dns for a while, wanting me to proxy through their own system. I just made my resolv.conf +i and used my own nameserver, and they never even knew. |
| 03:53.16 | abrotman | CutMeOwnThroat: update-alternatives --config www-browser |
| 03:53.29 | Guerin | lfaraone: oh. That's a bit trigger-happy but I can sort of see it. |
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| 03:53.39 | Firefishe | Blame Michigan instead! That's where I'm from, originally, eh, and desire to go back to, eh |
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| 03:54.06 | Firefishe | :) |
| 03:54.08 | lfaraone | caryw: totally random: you have the exact same name as my english teacher. |
| 03:54.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | ha... now I can choose between w3m and lynx - obviously it's only meant for text browsers |
| 03:54.29 | abrotman | right .. x-www-browser is for X |
| 03:55.24 | lfaraone | lives 5 miles away from the main east-coast DNS root. |
| 03:55.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | was just stumbling on it, because that's what xpdf uses for links |
| 03:56.14 | abrotman | lfaraone: like that matters |
| 03:56.37 | d-b | lfaraone: get a new isp |
| 03:57.13 | jpinx | !abuse the isp |
| 03:57.13 | dpkg | smacks the isp across the face. "Take that, bitch!" |
| 03:57.40 | jpinx | clever bot :) |
| 03:58.00 | lfaraone | abrotman: of course not, I just reaalized that. |
| 03:58.14 | lfaraone | d-b: it's either that or comcast in my area :) |
| 03:58.21 | abrotman | lfaraone: if you trace to it .. you migth end up going through hartford .. EWWWW |
| 03:58.34 | lfaraone | !abuse dpkg |
| 03:58.34 | dpkg | smacks dpkg across the face. "Take that, you bastard!" |
| 03:58.36 | d-b | comcast ? |
| 03:58.49 | d-b | they are not so bad anymore are they ... |
| 03:59.32 | lfaraone | d-b: ok... let me simplify it: verizon fios fiber == fast, comcast == less fast and more cash |
| 03:59.43 | lfaraone | d-b: and they still do filter BT |
| 03:59.57 | Firefishe | well, I dunno. Changing the nameserver still didn't do anything. I'm probably going to have to install something else for this thing. Just can't seem to get anything to work right. |
| 04:00.23 | Firefishe | been on it for two weeks now, nothing seems to help *sigh* <drinks a cup of grand marnier) |
| 04:01.29 | Firefishe | I'll bbl. Need to install. |
| 04:02.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | eh |
| 04:02.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | 2nd one who just leaves out |
| 04:03.08 | jpinx | sharks??? |
| 04:03.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | big big white sharp teeth - like phat |
| 04:04.29 | lfaraone | sleeps |
| 04:04.37 | jpinx | I can't get the bot to do what I want....:( |
| 04:04.51 | jpinx | !abuse the bot |
| 04:04.51 | dpkg | smacks the bot across the face. |
| 04:05.27 | jpinx | I'm trying to write a silly thing like that, but it's not playing nice :( |
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| 04:30.37 | adb | karsten: btw, what's the name of netconsole in debian ? |
| 04:30.52 | adb | if any ... |
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| 04:33.02 | ManateeLazyCat | I add "vga=795" in /boot/grub/menu.lst, but it will be erase when update kernel, so how to add "vga=795" automatically when update kernel? Thanks. |
| 04:34.18 | Guerin | ManateeLazyCat: read the comments in menu.lst |
| 04:34.33 | Guerin | ManateeLazyCat: the file is self-documenting; you just need to take advantage of it. |
| 04:34.46 | ManateeLazyCat | Guerin: Thanks |
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| 04:43.31 | pickcoder | pab: do you mean qalculate? |
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| 04:43.43 | pab | never mind....it's qalculate |
| 04:43.56 | pab | pickcoder, thanks....my bad |
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| 04:59.14 | ManateeLazyCat | Have a tool can give the path of "execute file"? |
| 04:59.40 | Guerin | ManateeLazyCat: explain |
| 05:00.20 | pickcoder | ManateeLazyCat: which <command name> |
| 05:00.28 | pickcoder | IIRC |
| 05:00.50 | pickcoder | it will show links too IIRC as well |
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| 05:01.38 | ManateeLazyCat | Guerin: Example, i have a "execute file" named "A" install at "/usr/local/bin/", i want a tool that named "B", so when i type "B A", the tool "B" will give the path of "A" -> "/usr/local/bin/" |
| 05:02.52 | Guerin | ManateeLazyCat: `which' |
| 05:03.11 | ManateeLazyCat | Guerin: Thank very much! ;) |
| 05:03.17 | pickcoder | <echo> |
| 05:03.19 | Guerin | ManateeLazyCat: welcome |
| 05:03.34 | Guerin | pickcoder: oh. I didn't see yours :) |
| 05:03.53 | pickcoder | sometimes statements look like questions |
| 05:03.59 | pickcoder | sometimes questions look like answers |
| 05:04.14 | pickcoder | sometimes you feel like a nut... <Etc<Etc< |
| 05:04.16 | Guerin | sometimes the flower looks like the bee |
| 05:04.33 | ManateeLazyCat | Guerin: I found the comment style of "/boot/grub/menu.lst" is very special, "##" is comment, and "#" is configuration filed for update-grub. |
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| 05:04.46 | Guerin | ManateeLazyCat: it is quite special, yes. |
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| 05:05.21 | ManateeLazyCat | Guerin: So beginning, i uncommonent line that start with "#", but now i understand it. |
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| 05:08.07 | ManateeLazyCat | Guerin: I have to recompile kernel-header for VirtualBox when i update kernel. So have any tool recompile kernel-header for VirtualBox automatically? |
| 05:08.50 | Guerin | ManateeLazyCat: i know nothing about virtualbox. |
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| 05:09.08 | ManateeLazyCat | Guerin: Thanks, anyway... ;) |
| 05:11.46 | adb | usually install too virtualbox-ose-modules-`uname -r` , if any is available |
| 05:12.02 | adb | ManateeLazyCat: ^^^ |
| 05:12.55 | ManateeLazyCat | adb: I not use OSE version, |
| 05:13.07 | adb | aha ... |
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| 05:13.58 | ManateeLazyCat | adb: I download VirtualBox deb file from Sun. |
| 05:13.58 | AutoMatriX | hi folks, how can one play a sound when '/var/log/auth.log' changes ??? |
| 05:14.26 | bel0ved | Hey guys, I'm installing debian amd64, and booted off DVD1. Unfortunately I'm on my school's enterprise 802.1x network and have no internet. It's telling me there isn't a kernel on the DVD. Anything I can do? |
| 05:17.59 | bel0ved | Specifically, when installing the base system, I get an error that "No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources" clearly because I can't access them without internet access. Should I continue without installing a kernel? |
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| 05:22.44 | systm | if i have an external usb drive that is sata, how do i determine what driver it needs? |
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| 05:37.13 | nullboy | systm: it's USB |
| 05:37.42 | nullboy | it will use USB mass storage regardless of the internal interface of the case |
| 05:38.46 | michael000 | hello |
| 05:39.09 | michael000 | before i switch to debian i would like to know if anyone has had any success with the bcm43xx wireless card |
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| 05:40.43 | systm | nullboy: im trying to install to it |
| 05:42.36 | nullboy | if it is a hard disk attached via USB it will use USB mass storage |
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| 05:44.27 | rvalles | ... and it'll be slow as hell |
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| 05:47.16 | systm | well thats not showing up on the net-install |
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| 05:50.49 | Iradieh | Hmm is it possible to use a pure virtual class functions and make it static, I don't want to make an object to use the method. And my two other classes that uses the virtual class needs the function to work different |
| 05:50.53 | Iradieh | http://pastie.org/336502 |
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| 05:57.00 | cygnus_ | hi i am currently on etch if i upgrade to the stable release will thinkgs work ? or is it likely to break my machine |
| 05:59.51 | Guerin | cygnus_: no, because etch is the stable release. |
| 06:00.52 | cygnus_ | oh |
| 06:00.55 | cygnus_ | i need libwxgtk2.8 |
| 06:00.59 | cygnus_ | but stable has only 2.6 and 2.4 |
| 06:01.04 | cygnus_ | i want to install codeblocks... |
| 06:02.17 | Octalot | Iradieh: how would your program know which class' static function to call? |
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| 06:05.41 | Iradieh | Octalot: hmm by using namespace class:function? |
| 06:05.43 | Iradieh | :: |
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| 06:07.46 | Octalot | but then why would they need to be virtual, seeing as the compiler knows which class at compile time? |
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| 06:25.12 | awk | Err http://security.debian.org etch/lenny/main Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 195.20.242.89 80] |
| 06:25.13 | webPragmatist | how do you make your .bash_profile changes take place immediately ? |
| 06:25.17 | webPragmatist | it's like export bashrc ? |
| 06:25.18 | awk | just something to look at |
| 06:25.54 | awk | errr |
| 06:25.58 | awk | ignore that, type my side |
| 06:26.01 | awk | lol |
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| 06:26.08 | Lagbolt | webPragmatist, "source .bash_proilfe" |
| 06:26.13 | webPragmatist | ah ok thatnks |
| 06:26.17 | iShock | proilfe? |
| 06:26.22 | AussieGuy | ive put a file in /etc/cron.d/ , but it doesnt seem to be being executed? |
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| 06:26.23 | Lagbolt | lol |
| 06:26.24 | Lagbolt | oops |
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| 06:26.29 | AussieGuy | ive set it to run every hour |
| 06:28.50 | Supaplex | AussieGuy: upload it to http://rafb.net/paste |
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| 06:31.18 | AussieGuy | http://rafb.net/p/VVpp0g27.html |
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| 06:31.40 | AussieGuy | the script that it calls works, ive verified that by running it without cron |
| 06:32.17 | Supaplex | are there any cron messages about attempting to run the script? |
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| 06:33.15 | shivraj | hi how do I add a user to the dvdrw group ? |
| 06:33.17 | AussieGuy | /var/log/messages ? |
| 06:33.23 | Supaplex | syslog |
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| 06:34.31 | AussieGuy | cant see any messages in there about the script |
| 06:34.34 | AussieGuy | only about php5 etc |
| 06:35.03 | kunwon1 | AussieGuy, does your script have relative paths in it? |
| 06:35.07 | xoz_ | shivraj: adduser <user> <group> |
| 06:35.32 | AussieGuy | it does |
| 06:35.34 | xoz_ | shivraj: and logout/loging |
| 06:35.38 | AussieGuy | maybe thats the problem? |
| 06:35.42 | kunwon1 | AussieGuy, probably |
| 06:35.53 | Supaplex | AussieGuy: set -x at the top |
| 06:35.56 | shivraj | xoz_: do you know the name of the dvdrw group? |
| 06:36.04 | Supaplex | of the script, right after the #!/ line |
| 06:36.15 | AussieGuy | so maybe write another script..... cd to dir...then run it |
| 06:36.18 | AussieGuy | whats the -x? |
| 06:36.46 | adb | -x explain ? |
| 06:36.50 | xoz_ | shivraj: check /etc/groups |
| 06:37.05 | xoz_ | shivraj: check /etc/group |
| 06:37.18 | kunwon1 | AussieGuy, it's debugging |
| 06:37.22 | kunwon1 | turns on debugging |
| 06:38.17 | shivraj | hmm... my installation is fucked up, forget abt it, I think its the cdrom group, but some kind of symlink has to be made to /dev/dvdrw |
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| 06:39.41 | shivraj | xoz_: or maybe I am using different kernels .. .thanks, I have to fix this whole system |
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| 06:40.38 | Supaplex | hummmmmmm |
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| 06:41.51 | jhambo | I can't for the life of me get kamefu to properly launch my emulators with arguments. Command lines that work in a terminal dont seem to work when I try to put them into kamefu. what's going on? |
| 06:41.59 | AussieGuy | so #!/bin/bash -x |
| 06:42.48 | SerajewelKS | is there a decent database diagram utility in debian? |
| 06:42.48 | kunwon1 | AussieGuy, no, set -x on a line by itself after the shebang line |
| 06:42.59 | kunwon1 | set -x |
| 06:43.03 | SerajewelKS | dia claims to do database designs but (surprise surprise) does not |
| 06:43.07 | kunwon1 | set is the command, -x is an option |
| 06:44.06 | AussieGuy | ok, done that, set the crontab to run in the next minute |
| 06:44.54 | kunwon1 | lets see if that shows up anything in your log |
| 06:45.27 | AussieGuy | still nothing in /var/log/syslog about the script |
| 06:45.50 | kunwon1 | AussieGuy, if you want to pastebin the script i'll look at it, but i'd recommend changing your relative paths to absolute |
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| 06:48.42 | AussieGuy | I put a command in that crontab to run ls > /home/robbie/lsoutput ....turns out that didnt run either, I dont see lsoutput |
| 06:49.25 | AussieGuy | I do notice that the crontab fragment file itself is has chmod +x |
| 06:49.51 | AussieGuy | not sure if that would have anything to do with it, but the php crontab next to it doesnt have a chmod +x |
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| 06:50.24 | bartleby | i have a pretty noob question. when i do apt-get upgrade and it tells me that certain packages have been held back, why is that? |
| 06:51.34 | streuner_ | barleby: well, could be that the system wants to install new packages which arent on your system actually... |
| 06:51.51 | Supaplex | !held back |
| 06:51.51 | dpkg | hmm... kept back is when packages have not been upgraded even though newer versions are available. This happens if dependencies cannot be resolved, packages are on hold or you used "upgrade" not "dist-upgrade" and new packages need to be installed. To investigate, "apt-get -s install <kept-package>". Also see http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/69 Ask me about <dist-upgrade>. |
| 06:52.44 | superjet_busy | aria2c foo.metalink just download a few byte size of a file of foo then exit and say `(OK):download completed(OK):download completed.` what's wrong? |
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| 06:54.33 | TwistOfFate | guys help me out. i'm building a server here at home. it's got 6 disks. keep in mind i have no spare disks. which raid configuration should i use? i was thinking of having a raid5 using 5 disks, and keeping one spare. |
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| 06:57.25 | awk | raid 10 |
| 06:57.27 | the-dude | TwistOfFate: depends on what you want to use it for |
| 06:58.02 | TwistOfFate | was gonna use vmware esx 3.5 to run a few deb servers. |
| 06:58.13 | TwistOfFate | essentially creating it as a test lab. |
| 06:58.27 | awk | TwistOfFate: read this for best answer http://www.raid-data-recovery.net/raid-levels.html |
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| 06:59.03 | the-dude | TwistOfFate: you want speed? safety? capacity? |
| 06:59.05 | awk | TwistOfFate: but you can look at raid 6 too |
| 06:59.16 | polywaffle | running lenny guys and cannot play encrypted DVDs with vlc. Any ideas? |
| 07:00.18 | TwistOfFate | thanks guys. i guess i'm looking at capacity and safety. |
| 07:00.29 | Guerin | polywaffle: /msg dpkg decss |
| 07:00.29 | TwistOfFate | safety being the key. because i have no more drives but these 6. |
| 07:00.34 | awk | TwistOfFate: read that article first. |
| 07:00.39 | the-dude | I would suggest raid5 |
| 07:00.45 | awk | I would use 10 over 5 |
| 07:00.47 | polywaffle | ok |
| 07:01.16 | AussieGuy | I found out why it didnt work....apparently cron didnt like my .cron extention to the file in cron.d |
| 07:01.38 | AussieGuy | I got rid of the .cron extention, and cron found it and ran it |
| 07:01.46 | kunwon1 | AussieGuy, cool :) |
| 07:02.25 | awk | TwistOfFate: read this too, http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/raid5-vs-raid-10-safety-performance.html |
| 07:02.53 | awk | 10 is faster than 5 |
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| 07:03.05 | awk | but you lose space :D |
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| 07:04.41 | the-dude | interesting article awk |
| 07:04.56 | TwistOfFate | hmm, thanks guys. i'm gonna read now. |
| 07:05.07 | jhambo | launching `aoss zsnes -v 4 -1 1 foogame.smc` from the command line and launches my game. When I put that same command into the field in kamefu configuration, my game doesn't launch. what's the matter? |
| 07:05.53 | awk | the-dude: jaaa, least one can way up the pro's / con's |
| 07:06.19 | awk | this was also a good one i found http://storageadvisors.adaptec.com/2007/04/17/yet-another-raid-10-vs-raid-5-question/ |
| 07:06.22 | awk | anyway, i'm off! |
| 07:06.24 | awk | & |
| 07:06.37 | jhambo | Hmmm ubuntu irc support is... interesting... |
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| 07:10.24 | adb | jhambo: install gnome-launch-box ? |
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| 07:18.51 | Cephalon | hello, when i try to make an application after ./configure i take the following message http://rafb.net/p/ip87GM89.html |
| 07:18.56 | Cephalon | pls help me |
| 07:19.01 | Cephalon | debian noob |
| 07:20.01 | frozty_sa | Cephalon: do you have the things installed which you need? |
| 07:20.03 | awk | Cephalon: err, what else you doing after configure? |
| 07:20.16 | awk | ./configure && make && make install? |
| 07:20.31 | Cephalon | awk. yes |
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| 07:20.52 | adb | `XW; |
| 07:20.57 | awk | Cephalon: do you have build essentials installed? |
| 07:20.58 | Cephalon | frozty_sa. yes |
| 07:21.03 | adb | opps |
| 07:21.10 | Cephalon | awk. yes |
| 07:21.16 | awk | aptitude install make |
| 07:21.38 | Cephalon | awk. allready installed |
| 07:21.39 | akio | are there any MSI Wind owners here? |
| 07:21.48 | awk | Cephalon: its saying it can't find it... |
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| 07:22.11 | jhambo | adb: I don't think that's what I want. I want to be able to launch the command from kamefu which is a program that is supposed to be used for launching rom emulators... |
| 07:22.25 | awk | Cephalon: ahh, never mind... what depends does the README say you need? |
| 07:23.08 | adb | jhambo: sorry, than |
| 07:23.19 | awk | Cephalon: do this, apt-get install automake |
| 07:23.27 | awk | Cephalon: then try again |
| 07:23.35 | Cephalon | awk. allready installed |
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| 07:23.44 | Supaplex | throws a $bone at awk ;) |
| 07:23.48 | akio | test... |
| 07:24.24 | petef | i need to load a driver module at startup |
| 07:24.26 | Cephalon | awk. if i give make clean for example i take http://rafb.net/p/u3pXB732.html |
| 07:24.27 | petef | using elive |
| 07:25.12 | frozty_sa | Supaplex: good nick |
| 07:25.12 | petef | broadcom wl,ko |
| 07:25.17 | adb | petef: wrong channel |
| 07:25.27 | petef | oh sorry? |
| 07:25.38 | petef | where should i be? |
| 07:25.50 | adb | ask #elive |
| 07:26.04 | petef | #elive is dead and it's debian-based |
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| 07:26.25 | petef | #linux people sent me here |
| 07:26.33 | awk | Cephalon: you def have auto make installed? |
| 07:26.42 | awk | Cephalon: because thats def an auto make error message |
| 07:27.03 | Cephalon | automake is already the newest version. |
| 07:27.28 | cahoot | !b-e |
| 07:27.28 | dpkg | build-essential is, like, a package designed to help you create executables and build Debian packages. If you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables or can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to "aptitude install build-essential". If you don't plan to compile things, you don't need this package. Ask me about <qotd49>. |
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| 07:27.55 | awk | cahoot: he allready has that on. |
| 07:28.21 | awk | Cephalon: an you sure your export path is right? |
| 07:28.22 | adb | !rc.local |
| 07:28.23 | dpkg | somebody said rc.local was /etc/rc.local is a script called by /etc/init.d/rc.local which is typically one of the last things to be run during the boot sequence. If you have commands you want run at boot, edit /etc/rc.local (don't touch /etc/init.d/rc.local). rc.local is considered a hack, consider writing a real init script (ask me about <init.d>). |
| 07:28.43 | petef | so assuming i was using debian, is there some kind of startup script i can use to add the commands that i know work to load the driver? |
| 07:28.45 | awk | Cephalon: maybe its not finding the binaries. |
| 07:29.00 | adb | petef: ^^^^ |
| 07:29.03 | Cephalon | w8 |
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| 07:29.10 | Cephalon | let me gine ./configure again |
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| 07:29.43 | petef | ah tx i'll check that |
| 07:29.54 | adb | np |
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| 07:31.06 | Cephalon | thats it |
| 07:31.09 | Cephalon | thanx ppl |
| 07:31.24 | Cephalon | i have run ./configure before install automake |
| 07:31.31 | Cephalon | what a stupid |
| 07:31.42 | Cephalon | thanx for your time |
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| 07:31.51 | Cephalon | UR the best |
| 07:31.55 | Cephalon | ;) |
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| 07:33.26 | hmm | hi all |
| 07:33.39 | hmm | i remeber there was some tool which was used to detect not used packages on the system |
| 07:33.49 | hmm | i just can not remember its name |
| 07:33.56 | hmm | can someone help me ? |
| 07:34.45 | adb | orphelain ? |
| 07:34.59 | Supaplex | !tell hmm -about deborphan |
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| 07:35.24 | hmm | looks good |
| 07:35.26 | hmm | thanks guys |
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| 07:37.09 | awk | Celelaptop: ahh :D |
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| 08:09.17 | liable | !qotd0 |
| 08:09.18 | dpkg | hmm... qotd5 is <antgel__>wols_: that was my question. i have established that the best method could be to open the disc and use a small magnet to get all the 1s and 0s in the right places |
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| 08:15.29 | anoHito | hi guys |
| 08:16.05 | anoHito | is it possible to insert a scsi card or a sas card in a standard 1u case to let the mobo support scsi/sas ? |
| 08:16.29 | anoHito | there is nobody active in #hardware thats why i m here. |
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| 08:17.04 | sauvin | Somebody nudge the bot for me to point to instructions on enabling lenny to view commercial movie dvds, please...? |
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| 08:17.19 | cast | !tell sauvin about d-m |
| 08:17.36 | cast | grab the dvd css lib thingy |
| 08:17.37 | sauvin | cast, precisely. Thanks! |
| 08:17.55 | sauvin | I've done this before on several distros, just forgotten exactly what needs done. |
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| 08:31.47 | xoz | ls |
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| 08:32.36 | adv_ | how can i check for a binary in which pkg it's included? |
| 08:34.04 | Federico2 | hi |
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| 08:35.26 | adb | adv_: apt-file search <packagename> |
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| 08:36.00 | Luffy1980 | When I boot a grub rescue cd(from the debian package), it says "error : unknown filesystem entering rescue mode". If then I type something like "insmod normal", it says again "error : unknown filesystem". Notice that the iso9660 module is loaded. What does it mean? |
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| 08:37.14 | adv_ | adb: there's no apt-file command |
| 08:37.23 | adb | install it |
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| 08:38.17 | adb | apt-get install apt-file |
| 08:38.27 | adv_ | yes, sorry moment |
| 08:39.33 | theeclipse | Hello Guys, I have a VFAT external drive that I mounted with these options : rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,utf8,shortname=winnt,uid=1000,gid=1000,user=behdad , but still non-root users like "behdad" doesnt have the permission to write on it, any idea? |
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| 08:40.19 | cahoot | !vfatrw |
| 08:40.20 | dpkg | To get write access to a vfat partition when mounting it with fstab, use the line "/dev/partition /mount/point vfat defaults,uid=USERID,gid=GROUPID,umask=002 0 0" in /etc/fstab. umask=002 will make the partition rwxrwxr-x, while umask=022 will make it rwxr-xr-x. Get your user/group ids with the command "id" |
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| 08:42.08 | theeclipse | cahoot: Yes, I tried that, it doesnt |
| 08:42.19 | theeclipse | * it doesnt work |
| 08:42.29 | cahoot | see the umask part? |
| 08:42.49 | adv_ | what does it mean for apt not able to get verification for some pkgs? |
| 08:42.50 | theeclipse | cahoot: I just set the umask part now, same story.. |
| 08:43.18 | cahoot | and remounted? |
| 08:43.35 | adb | adv_: like ? |
| 08:43.37 | theeclipse | cahoot: Yes |
| 08:43.43 | Luffy1980 | theeclipse: did you try changing the permissions on the directory once mounted? |
| 08:43.55 | adv_ | adb: like for some dependencies of apt-file |
| 08:44.15 | adb | ? |
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| 08:44.25 | theeclipse | Luffy1980: Just now I chmod 777 to one of them, it doesnt change the permission even by the root |
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| 08:44.44 | adv_ | WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! libconfig-file-perl libapt-pkg-perl liblist-moreutils-perl apt-file menu |
| 08:45.05 | adb | adv_: install debian-keyring |
| 08:45.21 | Eulex | adv_, can you show us your /etc/apt/sources.list? |
| 08:46.08 | adv_ | Install these packages without verification [y/N]? y |
| 08:48.04 | theeclipse | Is there any extra package that I should install before mounting a VFAT drive to make it writable? |
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| 08:58.40 | cahoot | theeclipse: the method described above works for everyone else |
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| 08:59.46 | theeclipse | cahoot: I really dont know what is wrong with mine |
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| 09:01.04 | cahoot | rum mount and paste the line that describes your vfat partition - might give a clue |
| 09:01.15 | cahoot | s/rum/run/ |
| 09:01.56 | theeclipse | cahoot: this is the fstab entry : users,iocharset=utf8,exec,rw,nosuid,nodev,umask=002,uhelper=hal,utf8,shortname=winnt,uid=1000,gid=1000 |
| 09:03.12 | cahoot | exec seems redundant |
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| 09:03.54 | theeclipse | cahoot: let me try it |
| 09:03.55 | cahoot | why not try the line dpkg suggested? |
| 09:04.16 | theeclipse | cahoot: I swear I tried it |
| 09:04.17 | adv_ | what pkg do i need for gtk+-2.0? |
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| 09:04.27 | cahoot | (and add options one at a time) |
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| 09:05.28 | adb | 09:35:17 ] <adb> adv_: apt-file search <packagename> |
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| 09:08.59 | hwu | what's the apt command to see same package name in 32bit and 64bit? |
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| 09:09.53 | adb | apt-file search <packagename> |
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| 09:11.10 | hwu | adb: I don't have apt-file command here. |
| 09:11.22 | hwu | adb: it has apt-cache |
| 09:11.35 | adb | apt-get install apt-file |
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| 09:12.29 | hwu | adb: no such package. I am in RHEL4, using APT-RPM. |
| 09:12.55 | adb | so ask # RHEL4 |
| 09:13.15 | hwu | apt-rpm is from redhat. |
| 09:13.33 | adb | so ask #redhat |
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| 09:14.25 | hwu | s/is/is not |
| 09:14.45 | adb | you payed for .. support |
| 09:15.00 | simonrvn | hwu: so why are you bugging us in here? |
| 09:15.14 | hwu | ok, guess no one knows .. |
| 09:15.26 | LoveGuru | looklike he/she got illegal copy :p |
| 09:15.27 | LoveGuru | l0ol |
| 09:15.30 | simonrvn | you're missing the point |
| 09:15.37 | LoveGuru | thats why he won't ask there :S |
| 09:15.55 | simonrvn | that's their problem, not ours |
| 09:16.07 | hwu | as I said, apt-rpm is not from redhat. |
| 09:16.21 | LoveGuru | simonrvn: i m not talking about those ppl problem .. talking about "hwu" problem. |
| 09:16.34 | LoveGuru | hwu: as far as i know there is no apt-rpm :/ |
| 09:16.37 | simonrvn | hwu: ask in the right channel already |
| 09:16.41 | simonrvn | LoveGuru: so am i |
| 09:17.20 | hwu | Oktane: it is a project done by some apt geeks I guess. |
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| 09:32.27 | naught101 | my server has VERY low CPU usage, 50% RAM usage, 0 swap (VPS), and loads of 20+ |
| 09:32.51 | naught101 | the "wa" value in top is sitting at around 99-100% |
| 09:32.58 | naught101 | what could be causing this? |
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| 09:44.51 | tarzeau | when is lenny released? |
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| 09:45.38 | sep | tarzeau, when the green line reaches 0 http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ |
| 09:46.02 | tarzeau | sep: hehe, exactly what i used to answer years ago :) |
| 09:46.27 | sep | well it is still true, so why did you ask ? |
| 09:46.46 | tarzeau | sep: i was curious what the answers these days are |
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| 09:47.03 | sep | depends on who answers :) |
| 09:47.22 | sep | !wir |
| 09:47.23 | tarzeau | sep: true |
| 09:47.23 | dpkg | [wir] When It's Ready. See also RSN and SIYH |
| 09:47.29 | tarzeau | !rsn |
| 09:47.29 | dpkg | i guess rsn is Real Soon Now (or never) or see "wir" and "siyh" |
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| 10:13.27 | sauvin | Debian Lenny. Can't get virtualbox running. "The version of the VirtualBox kernel modules and the version of the VirtualBox application are not matching." Any ideas? |
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| 10:19.11 | jelly-home | sauvin: rebuild the module |
| 10:20.24 | jelly-home | sauvin: virtualbox-ose or the nonfree version? dpkg -l virtualbox\*|grep '^.i' |
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| 10:20.58 | sauvin | virtualbox-ose |
| 10:21.08 | sauvin | moment and I'll do that grep. |
| 10:21.16 | mhymn_ | known bug btw |
| 10:21.26 | sauvin | No fix? |
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| 10:22.33 | mhymn_ | it's fixed iirc |
| 10:22.47 | sauvin | Not according to apt-get, it's not! |
| 10:23.03 | mhymn_ | well... |
| 10:24.51 | mhymn_ | !dbugs #502375 |
| 10:24.55 | dpkg | DONE:#502375:G[virtualbox-ose] virtualbox-ose: kernel modules and application do not match (); Thu, 16 Oct 2008 04:00:02 UTC [] |
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| 10:27.11 | jelly-home | well, there seems to be a 2.0.6 package in experimental ;-) |
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| 10:28.04 | mhymn_ | right |
| 10:28.07 | beli | hi folks....my opensshd worked fine...now after reboot i get connection reset by peer if i try to login from remote....login locally works though.....any ideas? |
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| 10:28.22 | sauvin | I did a modprobe -r vboxdrv, module-assistant auto-install virtualbox-ose, modprobe vboxdrv. Modinfo lists vboxdrv as being 1.6.6. VirtualBox itself is 1.6.6. I still get the error for mismatching kernel modules and application versoins. |
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| 10:29.19 | beli | sometimes i get a login prompt...after char input i get a connection reset by peer |
| 10:30.34 | jelly-home | sauvin: can you verify the versions of virtualbox-ose and -source match, and rebuild the module with m-a again? |
| 10:32.18 | sauvin | Virtualbox-ose: 1.6.6-dfsg-3, virtualbox-ose-source 1.6.6-dfsg-3. Will try another round of m-a. |
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| 10:33.14 | jelly-home | sauvin: try doing as much cleaning of m-a environment as possible |
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| 10:33.59 | sauvin | I just did an m-a -f |
| 10:34.42 | jelly-home | sauvin: did it recreate the tree in /usr/src/modules/virtualbox* from scratch? |
| 10:34.45 | sauvin | Oh... hi.... my XP is installing now! |
| 10:34.51 | sauvin | I have no idea. |
| 10:35.02 | sauvin | The whole process zipped by too fast. |
| 10:35.10 | jelly-home | well if it works now, then all right |
| 10:35.29 | sauvin | Yea... I'm checking it out now for speed. |
| 10:35.43 | jelly-home | that's a rather old version. |
| 10:36.06 | sauvin | It's what lenny's repos provided. |
| 10:36.39 | sauvin | If it's any consolation, ubuntu 8.04's version is 1.5.6. :D |
| 10:36.40 | jelly-home | saw significant responsivitiy improvement with 2.0 on lenny amd64 host, xp guest |
| 10:36.44 | internat1 | if i wanted to find the last time a file was access in a specific mount point.. how would i go about doing that? |
| 10:37.07 | sauvin | I'll tell you what: 1.5.6 on a 32-bit Ubuntu is zippy enough! |
| 10:37.42 | sauvin | is trying to get his daughter's laptop ready for Christmas and has so far run into all kinds of problems |
| 10:38.14 | sauvin | Next fight, maybe, is getting the damn Radeon's hardware acceleration going, but not tonight :D |
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| 10:38.53 | sauvin | Here comes the acid test... |
| 10:39.12 | sauvin | (if it runs acceptably fast when graphics mode Windows comes alive, it's a win) |
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| 10:42.35 | sauvin | Hey... in the VirtualBox Help->About box, there are three characters: one, a Linux penguin with a tambourine, a BSD devil holding some light-emitting object, and a green lizard-like thing with a red hat and its arms (tentacles?) around a bluish cube-like thing. Who's the sauroid? |
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| 10:46.29 | cahoot | a monstruous mix of suse and rh? |
| 10:47.01 | sauvin | Dunno. It's more than vaguely disturbing. |
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| 10:54.18 | Tex-Twil | Hello, I used once a network monitor that shows via a web gui a lot of information about the network traffic per host (bandwidth, protocols, data transmitted .. ). I forgot the name of this app, anyone ? |
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| 10:56.16 | efaistos | 2hmmm any idea why my resolv.conf get rewritten ? |
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| 10:56.52 | SySAdm | efaistos: maybe because you are using dhcp? |
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| 10:57.13 | efaistos | nope static ip |
| 10:57.33 | d-b | efaistos: does it say what is overriding it ? |
| 10:57.38 | d-b | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:58.04 | lvh | ffs |
| 10:58.05 | cahoot | efaistos: try /msg dpkg resolv.conf |
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| 10:58.14 | lvh | I've been saccing enough for five magicbanes now |
| 10:58.17 | efaistos | nope |
| 10:58.19 | FILLVAIO2 | Hi folk. I have deleted apache2 virtual daemon .log files, error.log and access.log, when i create all of them, apache don't want to write there nothing. What to do? |
| 10:58.20 | lvh | damn thoth is a cheapskate |
| 10:58.21 | sauvin | Success. I just lost a game of Solitaire on XP. Thanks loads. :D |
| 10:58.39 | d-b | lvh: are you a bot ? |
| 10:58.57 | efaistos | cahoot: thanks |
| 10:59.02 | datacrusher | hi folks! iv installed compiz and emerald here on my etch, but now conky gots crappy... do they work together? |
| 10:59.40 | FILLVAIO2 | apache2 restart no result |
| 11:00.08 | d-b | FILLVAIO2: check ther permissions on the files |
| 11:00.11 | d-b | the* |
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| 11:02.24 | FILLVAIO2 | it's have same permissions such as on other virtuals daemons :( |
| 11:02.34 | FILLVAIO2 | 100644, root |
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| 11:04.37 | lvh | d-b: wrong channel. |
| 11:04.51 | lvh | d-b: but I'm pretty human :-) |
| 11:04.53 | cahoot | FILLVAIO2: try to run logrotate see if it clears matters |
| 11:04.55 | d-b | http://pastebin.com/d24672fc4 FILLVAIO2 is what i have --> root adm |
| 11:05.07 | d-b | lvh: ^^ perhaps but those comments are fairly random |
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| 11:05.57 | FILLVAIO2 | logrotate? in what options? |
| 11:06.12 | d-b | no idea. it just works ^^ |
| 11:06.18 | d-b | (defaults ) |
| 11:06.50 | |414TooLong| | .win 12 |
| 11:06.52 | |414TooLong| | gah |
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| 11:11.33 | vyrgozunqk | guys can you help me, i cant compile gspca on linux kernel 2.6.27 ... :/ |
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| 11:16.05 | mic_p | Hi, I know that my isn't a debian-related question, but... I need to "open" a isolinux cdrom that I have and see it inside, but I haven't found a solution. Some help? |
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| 11:18.00 | Agiofws | is there a freenode staffer in here ? |
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| 11:18.41 | Element14 | mic_p: you need to open an .iso image? |
| 11:18.45 | sep | Agiofws, try #freenode ? |
| 11:19.26 | mic_p | Element14. No, I have isolinux directory and inside boot.cat, boot.msg and so on... |
| 11:19.32 | Agiofws | did |
| 11:19.36 | Agiofws | am there |
| 11:19.43 | Element14 | oh, not familiar with that sorry :-/ |
| 11:20.01 | mic_p | Element14: however, thank ;) |
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| 11:24.25 | trumpen | what to use for command line spell-checking? ispell, aspell or else? |
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| 11:26.33 | Aggro | trumpen: What language? |
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| 11:26.50 | FILLVAIO2 | is there any way to get .log files working? |
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| 11:27.08 | trumpen | Aggro, English (American or British) |
| 11:27.38 | Fr0Gs | hey all, i seem to have a problem using a RAR binnary i get ./rar: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory but in /usr/lib there is libstdc++.so.6 does anyone know where it looks for that file? |
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| 11:28.34 | pongi | Hi All. |
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| 11:29.13 | Aggro | trumpen: Not sure about that, but I would assume that any option is good enough for it. |
| 11:30.13 | pongi | I missing some 'Registered streams' for my php. At this moment only 'zip' extension exists, but I need these too: 'php, file, data, http, ftp, https, ftps, compress.bzip2, compress.zlib' |
| 11:31.11 | pongi | I googled some hours without result. I use gentoo on my primary machine, there was easy to do it, but debian is new for me, especially this 'problem'. |
| 11:31.35 | trumpen | Aggro, thanks, I have never used any *spell package. I'll try ispell ;) |
| 11:31.36 | pongi | Does anybody know, what to do in this case? |
| 11:31.52 | pongi | thank you |
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| 11:34.18 | trumpen | FILLVAIO2, reconfigure the package or better give a look at /var/lib/dpkg/info/apache*-common.postinst and do the same |
| 11:34.30 | Octalot | Fr0Gs: try strace |
| 11:34.56 | pongi | Anyway, I use etch |
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| 11:38.16 | oxi | hi |
| 11:38.45 | oxi | can anyone recommend me a good cheap nameserver service? |
| 11:39.19 | Aggro | pongi: apt-cache search php ... And see if there are some packages that seem to contain what you need. |
| 11:39.36 | Aggro | pongi: That is what I would do, I have no experience in what you are doing. |
| 11:39.51 | pongi | Aggro: thank you, I tried it and I found nothing relevant. Probably I need more repository......... |
| 11:40.51 | pongi | Aggro: I only would like to get more extension for my apache2-php5 system............ I hope, this is normal :) |
| 11:41.12 | shivraj | pongi: that has nothing to do with Debian, isnt that an Apache configuration ? |
| 11:41.19 | shivraj | pongi: did you install lamp ? |
| 11:41.54 | shivraj | debian has a good LAMP package |
| 11:43.01 | pongi | shivraj: no, normal apt-get install procedure..... I know, this is related to php. Under gentoo I got everything (after compile all the world) |
| 11:43.16 | pongi | I check apt-cache again......... |
| 11:43.35 | shivraj | pongi: hehe, gentoo is rocket science ... build your own shit from scratch |
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| 11:44.04 | pongi | shivraj: probably so, but somebody built debian too ;) |
| 11:44.13 | shivraj | pongi: you gotta learn how to configure PHP I bet, I am doing a django site right now, ... it sucks when stuff doesnt work |
| 11:44.23 | shivraj | pongi: you might be better off getting some sleep |
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| 11:48.36 | pongi | shivraj: do you mean, I better to go to the bad to sleep? :) In this case, this problem will never be solved.... |
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| 11:49.33 | TwistOfFate | well all, i have decided on my raid configuration. |
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| 11:51.34 | Shadur | I've got a freshly installed version of lenny on a system, with DNS server and desktop environment configured. However, when GDM starts it uses the smallest resolution possible (320x480) and the fontsize is set to 'gigantic'. |
| 11:52.06 | Shadur | Editing xorg.conf to explicitly specify resolutions (exclusively 1152x864) helped the first problem, but not the second. |
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| 11:54.54 | lvh | & a major demon (tame pit fiend)--More-- |
| 11:54.57 | lvh | god I love /opoly |
| 11:55.00 | lvh | ?? pit fiend |
| 11:55.14 | lvh | fer chrissakes, I loved my old irssi setup more. Sorry again. |
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| 11:57.16 | Error4o4 | how can i figure out if i should do an 'apt-get dist-upgrade' ? |
| 11:57.35 | shivraj | Error4o4: you dont figure that out |
| 11:57.40 | shivraj | Error4o4: do apt-get update |
| 11:57.45 | shivraj | then apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 11:57.55 | shivraj | Error4o4: are you using lenny or etch ? |
| 11:58.34 | Error4o4 | shivraj: etch, wondering how to see if an upgarde is needed, apt-get dist-upgrade will do it |
| 11:59.15 | shivraj | Error4o4: well ... Lenny is more updated than Etch |
| 11:59.42 | disposable | in a bash script i want to have a variable a=$('ls -1') and then do echo $a, however, it doesn't work when i use the single quotes. without them it does. why? (it gives me "ls -1: command not found") |
| 12:01.01 | mhymn_ | #bash ? |
| 12:01.27 | disposable | mhymn_: may be a good idea :) |
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| 12:01.35 | Error4o4 | shivraj: i'm not very experienced with debian and apt, currently running etch on a vps because lenny is not stable yet |
| 12:01.35 | mhymn_ | ;) |
| 12:02.44 | TwistOfFate | that's the problem with debian. |
| 12:02.46 | TwistOfFate | stable is too old. |
| 12:02.52 | TwistOfFate | sometimes backports save you |
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| 12:04.11 | Assid | my box got owned :( |
| 12:04.12 | Assid | err brb |
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| 12:04.35 | TwistOfFate | what happened assid |
| 12:04.46 | Assid | TwistOfFate: i think came in over ssh |
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| 12:05.05 | Assid | i see a cron pointing to /tmp/.ICE-unix/.ssh/y2kupdate |
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| 12:05.29 | Assid | also traces of SHV4 and SHV5 rootkits |
| 12:05.36 | Assid | so says rkhunter |
| 12:06.02 | TwistOfFate | old ssh vulns. |
| 12:06.04 | TwistOfFate | must be using etch then. |
| 12:06.23 | Assid | etch is vulnerable? |
| 12:06.41 | TwistOfFate | probably. the ssh ver is 5yrs old |
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| 12:07.08 | Error4o4 | thats weird, i did yesterday dpkg-reconfigure locales and added en_US* but today its not there, just the old de_DE when doing locales -a any idea? |
| 12:07.18 | Assid | yeah.. i think the default allowed permitrootlogin and ssh v1 |
| 12:07.56 | mhymn_ | TwistOfFate: well, that's why stable gets security updates regularly |
| 12:08.56 | adb_ | quit |
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| 12:10.14 | prxtien_ | hey all |
| 12:10.18 | prxtien_ | anyone know good backup software for debian? |
| 12:10.32 | TwistOfFate | bacula |
| 12:10.52 | prxtien_ | thanks bruh ill check that out |
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| 12:12.32 | gutterpunk | Hi guys. I use procmail to send an email to a program, which in turn places the attachments in a directory. Unfortunately, this file is then always owned by "nobody:nogroup". How can I change which user it runs as |
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| 12:15.54 | Error4o4 | maybe to rephrase the question :) how do i figure out what release of etch i am using and whether it needs an upgrade ? |
| 12:16.24 | datacrusher | [error404]: uname -a |
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| 12:16.32 | datacrusher | will show you the kernel version ur using |
| 12:17.03 | TwistOfFate | and the kernel version will tell you precisely... |
| 12:17.04 | TwistOfFate | notthing. |
| 12:17.04 | Error4o4 | datacrusher: yea did that, but does this say its r4 ? 2.6.9-023stab048.4-enterprise |
| 12:17.12 | TwistOfFate | error |
| 12:17.16 | TwistOfFate | do a dist-upgrade |
| 12:17.23 | TwistOfFate | if it wants to upgrade, you're behind. |
| 12:17.33 | datacrusher | yes, sorry |
| 12:17.50 | datacrusher | better check if need with the dist-upgrade, more straight foward |
| 12:18.13 | Error4o4 | TwistOfFate: so basically dist-upgrade will ask if I want to proceed ? and does thi upgrade to the latest etch release or to lenny? |
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| 12:19.05 | liable | where the hell did you get that kernel? |
| 12:19.08 | TwistOfFate | whatever you've configured in your sources.list is what it will upgrade |
| 12:19.23 | Error4o4 | liable: why? :) |
| 12:19.23 | TwistOfFate | and yes, itt'll ask if you want to proceed |
| 12:19.29 | Error4o4 | TwistOfFate: ok ;) |
| 12:20.06 | liable | Error4o4: because its certainly not a debian kernel |
| 12:20.25 | Error4o4 | liable: i got that preinstalled with etch on my vps |
| 12:20.36 | liable | oh, a vps. right |
| 12:20.43 | liable | fair enough |
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| 12:21.00 | jpinx | error404: careful -- what type of vps |
| 12:21.18 | jpinx | has just had a lot of pain upgrading a vps |
| 12:21.28 | Error4o4 | jpinx: virtuozzo |
| 12:22.04 | jpinx | what's the host OS and vps software? |
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| 12:23.17 | jpinx | Error4o4: some vps's share their kernel with the guests and some allow the guests an independent kernel |
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| 12:23.47 | Error4o4 | not sure what the host os is, virtualization software is virtuozzo |
| 12:24.33 | TwistOfFate | i have a linode running debian |
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| 12:26.28 | jpinx | Error4o4: I suggest you do some reading on virtuozzo then before you do anything to your OS |
| 12:27.01 | Error4o4 | jpinx: yea doing now |
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| 12:27.38 | jpinx | Error4o4: does the host company not offer upgrades from time to time? even for basic security? |
| 12:28.11 | TwistOfFate | error404 |
| 12:28.13 | TwistOfFate | buy a linode |
| 12:28.27 | TwistOfFate | all the cool kids are you doing it. |
| 12:28.31 | TwistOfFate | you wan to be cool right? |
| 12:29.03 | macsim`work | hi, I got this error on mailq (temporary failure. Command output: maildrop: authlib: groupid=200), anybody got the same error ? I use maildrop on debian repo thanks |
| 12:29.18 | Shadur | hrmm. I've got a freshly installed version of lenny on a system, with DNS server and desktop environment configured. However, when GDM starts it uses the smallest resolution possible (320x480) and the fontsize is set to 'gigantic'. |
| 12:29.25 | Shadur | Editing xorg.conf to explicitly specify resolutions (exclusively 1152x864) helped the first problem, but not the second. |
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| 12:29.45 | TwistOfFate | someone help Shadur out. poor bloke's been asking for 45mins. |
| 12:30.12 | jpinx | Error4o4: https://www.solarvps.com/forums/index.php?topic=327.0 |
| 12:30.13 | Error4o4 | jpinx: yea Virtuozzo does share a special kernel that is maintained by them |
| 12:30.14 | liable | Shadur: which de? |
| 12:30.38 | Shadur | liable: Lenny, using gdm and all defaults so far. |
| 12:30.46 | liable | Shadur: gnome? |
| 12:31.05 | Shadur | liable: It's not a problem after I log in. It's just the greeter that's gone crazy. |
| 12:31.08 | jpinx | Error4o4: you're screwed for upgrades then - unless you can upgrade specific packages |
| 12:31.19 | liable | Shadur: oh. never heard of that |
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| 12:31.55 | Assid | bah |
| 12:32.00 | Assid | i hate this v6 tunnel crap |
| 12:32.02 | TwistOfFate | got it under control assid? |
| 12:32.08 | Shadur | I can change the resolution fine when I'm logged in, and all the fonts are fine - but not during the greeter. |
| 12:32.21 | Assid | TwistOfFate: well.. decided to backup my service to another box till i get this reloaded |
| 12:32.26 | Assid | makes more sense |
| 12:32.32 | Assid | never know what else is hidden there |
| 12:32.45 | TwistOfFate | thtis is gonna sound dumb |
| 12:32.47 | TwistOfFate | but i need confirmation |
| 12:32.55 | TwistOfFate | with a raid5, all drives have to be equal size right |
| 12:32.58 | TwistOfFate | or atleast bigger |
| 12:33.06 | Assid | not really |
| 12:33.26 | Assid | atleast i dont think so |
| 12:33.33 | Assid | tats jutst raid 1 that needs the same size |
| 12:33.58 | TwistOfFate | raid5 is striping though |
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| 12:34.32 | TwistOfFate | for instance |
| 12:34.32 | jpinx | Shadur: you using dash? |
| 12:34.40 | TwistOfFate | i've got 6 drives here |
| 12:34.46 | TwistOfFate | 5 are 73gb. 1 is 36gb |
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| 12:35.54 | Shadur | jpinx: No, bash. |
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| 12:36.29 | Assid | TwistOfFate: should work.. they all add up |
| 12:36.42 | Assid | okay i found a dump of the openvz container |
| 12:36.43 | Assid | yeay |
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| 12:36.46 | jpinx | Shadur: what do you mean by your "greeter" |
| 12:36.50 | Assid | that should make my life a LITTLE easier |
| 12:36.56 | Shadur | jpinx: gdm. |
| 12:37.14 | jpinx | Shadur: try using dash |
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| 12:38.21 | Error4o4 | well my vps dist-upgrade says just this: http://pastebin.com/m65d2c74a (its a clean system, i didnt install much additional software yet) |
| 12:38.56 | Shadur | jpinx: dash is a shell. I don't need a shell - bash is doing just fine. What I need is for gdm to give me a sane font size during the logon screen. |
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| 12:41.16 | jpinx | Shadur: sorry - my bad -- I meant slim |
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| 12:42.47 | jpinx | Error4o4: you really need a response from your hosting company - I got into serious trouble trying to do upgrades on a vps using xen |
| 12:43.21 | jpinx | Error4o4: and virtuozzo is less friendly 'cos you're sharing the kernel with the host |
| 12:43.38 | Error4o4 | jpinx: ok, just reading their faq articles |
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| 12:44.33 | jpinx | Error4o4: what does uname -a tell you? |
| 12:45.34 | Error4o4 | jpinx: 2.6.9-023stab048.4-enterprise #1 SMP Fri Jul 11 18:31:01 MSD 2008 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 12:45.51 | thm | hi! need help with the rkhunter package. how can I update its database - the list of problems it reports daily gets longer with each apt-get update... |
| 12:46.49 | TwistOfFate | ask Assid |
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| 12:46.52 | jpinx | Error4o4: yea - special kernel for virtuozzo - |
| 12:46.57 | TwistOfFate | he just used it after his box was owned. |
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| 12:47.33 | Assid | ask me what |
| 12:47.34 | gsamsa | how can i copy lines of text from one file to another? |
| 12:47.39 | gsamsa | via cli |
| 12:47.46 | gsamsa | and setting marks in the files |
| 12:48.11 | jpinx | gsamsa: vim? |
| 12:48.12 | Assid | TwistOfFate: ask me what? |
| 12:48.32 | thm | Assid: need help with the rkhunter package. how can I update its database - the list of problems it reports daily gets longer with each apt-get update... |
| 12:48.41 | Assid | rkhunter --update |
| 12:48.58 | Assid | personally iwould install the app from its main site |
| 12:49.30 | gsamsa | jpinx: without the use of vim except for setting the marks |
| 12:49.55 | Error4o4 | jpinx: what they say if you want to upgrade ie from sarge to etch its recommended to get a new vps and to migrate the data. |
| 12:50.27 | thm | Assid: er. no. that wasn't the question. after updating a package via apt, it starts to warn me about changed hashes of some system binaries |
| 12:50.41 | Assid | oh |
| 12:50.44 | jpinx | Error4o4: yep - that's your answer then -- vps's suck |
| 12:50.52 | Error4o4 | :) |
| 12:50.52 | Assid | that is after you run the rkhunter app right? |
| 12:51.08 | thm | it runs automatically once a day |
| 12:51.28 | liable | upgraded his vps without issue.. |
| 12:51.28 | thm | and sends me its fiondings per mail |
| 12:51.42 | jpinx | liable: as guest or as host? |
| 12:51.51 | liable | guest |
| 12:51.53 | jpinx | liable: and what vps software |
| 12:52.03 | liable | openvz |
| 12:52.16 | jpinx | googles openvz |
| 12:52.34 | Assid | jpinx: your using the openvz kernel provided on their site? |
| 12:52.57 | Assid | thm: rkhunter found binaries which are compromised? |
| 12:53.06 | Assid | if so.. its time to reload your data |
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| 12:53.25 | zxxd | hi |
| 12:53.29 | Assid | check and confirm you have been compromised.. if so.. start getting your data out |
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| 12:53.30 | Assid | and reload |
| 12:53.30 | zxxd | what is /etc/mailname used for ? |
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| 12:53.53 | Assid | thm: your ip starts with 71.? 74 ? 208 ? |
| 12:53.55 | thm | Assid: no, no. it runs on day one. on day two, I run apt-get upgrade, and now rkhunter, running again, warns me about files that have been changed |
| 12:54.16 | Assid | thm: put up your log |
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| 12:54.35 | thm | do you understand what I said? |
| 12:55.04 | Assid | somewhat.. |
| 12:55.10 | Assid | apt has nothing to do with the rkhunter database |
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| 12:55.34 | thm | sure. because apt modifies files without telling rkhunter |
| 12:55.56 | Assid | doesnt matter.. rkhunter dsoesnt check for changed files.. it checks the signatures against knwn rootkits |
| 12:55.57 | simNIX | hi all - im trying to update my debian - now I notice that on my local mirror ftp.nl.debian.org and ftp.debian.org are no files at all ? |
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| 12:56.47 | simNIX | hmm after a refresh there there |
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| 12:56.53 | simNIX | must be something wrong here |
| 12:57.06 | jpinx | liable: enlighten me - are you using a kernel specific to openvx? |
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| 12:57.11 | thm | Assid: wrong. see pastebin.com/d295548a8 - there are many more warnings like that |
| 12:57.19 | pala | i have a script with chmod +x in /etc/networks/if-up.d/ but doesn't get to be run on system start... is there anywhere else i need to add something? |
| 12:57.40 | Assid | okay your doing hash checks |
| 12:57.56 | Assid | i dont do that.. i just check rkhunter against rootkits |
| 12:58.05 | adb | pala: /etc/rc.local ? |
| 12:58.26 | thm | Assid: now the question remains, how do I update rkhunters db of hashes and such |
| 12:58.34 | adb | !tel pala about rc.local |
| 12:58.43 | liable | jpinx: yes, i cant upgrade the kernel. the host has to upgrade it |
| 12:58.43 | pala | adb, is it run after the network is up? |
| 12:58.52 | Assid | thm: from the cli remember rkhunter --update SHOULD do it |
| 12:59.07 | adb | pala: i hope so |
| 12:59.22 | pala | adb, ok :) |
| 12:59.27 | pala | adb, thanks |
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| 12:59.34 | adb | welcome |
| 12:59.46 | jpinx | liable: then you have a similar situation as me - I upgraded packages to etch in xen, but the host is running sarge, so I don't get the benefits |
| 13:00.14 | jpinx | liable: and sarge is unsupported for security now for some time |
| 13:00.32 | Assid | jpinx: your using openvz ? |
| 13:00.33 | liable | jpinx: huh? which benefits do you mean? |
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| 13:00.50 | liable | jpinx: how do you know the host is running sarge? |
| 13:00.59 | jpinx | liable: So I've been asking them to upgrade, but they don't want to because it'll b0rk other guests |
| 13:01.22 | jpinx | liable: they told me they are running sarge |
| 13:01.22 | yang | I am wondering how to enable winfast graphic card in debian |
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| 13:02.08 | jpinx | so now i have a sarge kernel share running etch packages on what is meant to be a rock-stable webserver :( |
| 13:02.16 | RichiH | !test |
| 13:02.17 | dpkg | Test Failed. |
| 13:02.19 | RichiH | good |
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| 13:03.07 | pala | adb, ah i believe my error was that i didn't have an 'exit 0' at the end of the script... damn |
| 13:03.27 | adb | bine ma nene |
| 13:03.40 | adb | ;) |
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| 13:03.52 | yang | http://pastebin.ca/1282604 |
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| 13:04.22 | pala | adb :)) |
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| 13:05.55 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:06.33 | Assid | wow.. taking too long to copy a 1.5 gig file |
| 13:07.02 | Shadur | jpinx: On the plus side, slim works. On the minus side, it doesn't seem to do xdmcp. |
| 13:08.32 | spx2 | how do I film what's going on my screen ? |
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| 13:09.01 | adb | spx2: use a camera ? |
| 13:09.10 | jelly | spx2: a screencast? |
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| 13:09.18 | spx2 | jelly: yes that might work,thx |
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| 13:10.01 | jelly | spx2: that's just a keyword for what I think you're trying to do; not a solution |
| 13:10.02 | quentusrex | Does anyone have any thoughts on using munin in a production enviroment to monitor server and workstation statistics? |
| 13:10.19 | jelly | zcalusic: hi |
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| 13:10.28 | zcalusic | oy |
| 13:10.34 | gsamsa | there an user logged on my machine |
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| 13:10.40 | gsamsa | and he's using x |
| 13:10.46 | gsamsa | i'm connected through ssh |
| 13:10.55 | gsamsa | and can i send him a message? |
| 13:10.57 | beardy | !enter |
| 13:10.58 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 13:11.03 | yang | Is there an updated guide for Nvidia graphic cards? |
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| 13:11.10 | yang | currently I have vesa |
| 13:11.18 | cahoot | gsamsa: using wall? |
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| 13:11.23 | yang | and it doesn't display anything when starting X |
| 13:11.39 | gsamsa | cahoot: he's not running any console |
| 13:11.39 | beardy | gsamsa: Does he have an xterm of any sort open? |
| 13:11.43 | jpinx | Shadur: ok - I'm not sure what that is, but at least you have a solution ;) |
| 13:11.44 | gsamsa | no |
| 13:11.47 | beardy | gsamsa: Are you root? |
| 13:11.53 | Shadur | jpinx: Remote X logins. |
| 13:11.54 | gsamsa | yes, i can be |
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| 13:12.05 | beardy | Shutdown X, and he'll get the message. |
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| 13:12.12 | gsamsa | beardy: :D |
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| 13:12.31 | cahoot | immediate attention |
| 13:12.40 | jpinx | Shadur: I thought it does, but I don't use them myself. Maybe more rtfm needed ;) |
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| 13:13.03 | beardy | gsamsa: Actually, if he's sitting there, by the box locally, beep the pcspeaker. |
| 13:13.17 | gsamsa | how can i beep it? |
| 13:13.28 | cahoot | speech? |
| 13:13.32 | beardy | gsamsa: With the program beep, for example. |
| 13:13.39 | beardy | !find beep stable |
| 13:13.46 | beardy | !info beep stable |
| 13:13.48 | dpkg | beep: (advanced pc-speaker beeper), section sound, is optional. Version: 1.2.2-19 (etch), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 108 kB |
| 13:13.54 | gsamsa | lol |
| 13:13.58 | gsamsa | thanks |
| 13:14.04 | jpinx | gsamsa: hold the left arrow down |
| 13:14.23 | beardy | jpinx: Will not beep anything other than his own terminal. |
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| 13:14.38 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'beep' (7 of 54): (/usr/bin/beep) in sound/beep ;; (/usr/share/irssi/help/beep) in net/irssi ;; (/usr/bin/vboxbeep) in utils/isdnvboxclient ;; (/usr/share/doc/blt/html/beep.html) in libs/blt ;; (/etc/transcriber/beep.au) in sound/transcriber ;; (/usr/share/capisuite/beep.la) in comm/capisuite ;; (/usr/share/freetalk/extensions/beep.scm) in net/freetalk. |
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| 13:14.53 | beardy | gsamsa: 'beep -f 2000 -r 10' for example. |
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| 13:15.44 | beardy | How that will get him to understand that it's you it's another problem.. |
| 13:16.20 | gsamsa | i'll morse code the message with beep |
| 13:16.22 | gsamsa | :) |
| 13:16.28 | beardy | If he knows morse, sure. |
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| 13:17.04 | gsamsa | thanks |
| 13:17.17 | gsamsa | but i cannot start any programs on his x right ? |
| 13:17.34 | cahoot | run a text msg thruogh festival |
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| 13:17.51 | beardy | That'd be better even. But, the speakers might not be on. |
| 13:18.10 | beardy | Or he might have a crappy soundacard already occupied and so on. |
| 13:18.12 | gsamsa | what about xosd ? |
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| 13:18.28 | gsamsa | if i send a message through it |
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| 13:19.13 | cahoot | would it be possible to display a xmessage ? |
| 13:19.56 | Error4o4 | still not sure how to figure out what etch release i'm running on this vps |
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| 13:25.42 | SuZuKinDeR | update-rc.d myscript defaults 99 should launch that script after everything else, right ? |
| 13:25.50 | jpinx | Error4o4: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 13:26.34 | Error4o4 | jpinx: 4.0 |
| 13:26.56 | SuZuKinDeR | in fact a friend is tryin to call a php script at boot time, but it gives a php segfault in dmesg |
| 13:26.58 | TwistOfFate | the revisions aren't displayed |
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| 13:27.48 | TwistOfFate | error404, the releases are just unofficial terms. |
| 13:27.57 | TwistOfFate | basically they're a periodic dist-upgrade |
| 13:28.08 | TwistOfFate | if you're doing that regularly, you have the latest release. |
| 13:28.13 | TwistOfFate | 4.0 is as official as it gets. |
| 13:28.41 | Error4o4 | TwistOfFate: ok |
| 13:29.07 | adb | TwistOfFate: revisions you meant |
| 13:29.16 | TwistOfFate | well |
| 13:29.20 | TwistOfFate | whatever the r is supposed to stand for. |
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| 13:42.50 | jpinx | Error4o4: cat /etc/debian_version outputs a name to me :/ |
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| 13:43.28 | adb | 14:26:25 ] <Error4o4> jpinx: 4.0 |
| 13:44.35 | jpinx | Error4o4: on my vps I get 4.0 as well :( |
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| 13:45.33 | jpinx | but on my local machine I get lenny/sid |
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| 13:45.42 | adb | so vps is etch jpinx |
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| 13:46.00 | liable | i get lenny/sid |
| 13:46.06 | jpinx | adb: maybe, but the host might well be sarge |
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| 13:46.31 | jpinx | liable: do you get lenny/sid on your vps? |
| 13:47.13 | liable | jpinx: i dont know why you keep saying about the host. i dont know much about vps tech, but its your guest that matters, the host is really just a background thing. |
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| 13:47.22 | liable | jpinx: yes, i have lenny on it. |
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| 13:48.13 | TwistOfFate | guys |
| 13:48.18 | TwistOfFate | where all the hot debian girls? |
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| 13:48.55 | cahoot | tried google? |
| 13:49.03 | jpinx | liable: not all vps solutions are the same and some use host kernel sharing for the guests - like xen |
| 13:49.48 | Hideme | I had to restore my /bin dir the other day. Now when I reboot only eth0 comes up, both eth1 and eth2 requires me to manually start it with the init.d/networking. Any suggestions? |
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| 13:49.55 | liable | jpinx: yes, but the kernel is it. i have an old kernel too, everything else is whatever you run in your guest. or am i missing something obvious here? |
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| 13:50.26 | jpinx | liable: so you might think your running lenny, but you're actually running a share of a sarge host kernel -- like I am |
| 13:51.04 | liable | jpinx: its not a sarge kernel, its just a kernel. it doesnt matter. |
| 13:51.23 | jpinx | liable: all the vps solutions do it different. virtualbox is the only one I have found where the guest is totally and genuinely independent |
| 13:51.37 | liable | unless you need something in a new kernel, which i cant really see what in a vps |
| 13:52.38 | jpinx | liable: the problems arise when someone tries to dist-upgrade the guest |
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| 13:53.47 | jpinx | and doesn't know what kernel to install because it's tailored to the host |
| 13:54.32 | thumbnail | just wanted to say thank you to stoned, enouf and the others that help me yesterday, I now have my wireless and my nvidia working beautifully |
| 13:54.41 | thumbnail | :D |
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| 13:54.56 | Doctor-Steve | im guessing Linux Debian 4 has no drivers for brand new Asus mobo LAN cards? |
| 13:55.08 | liable | i dont even have a kernel installed. |
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| 13:55.35 | liable | jpinx: xen lets you install an actual kernel inside the vps? |
| 13:55.43 | simonrvn | !etchnhalf |
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| 13:55.43 | dpkg | "etch + 1/2" -- an update to Debian's stable release "etch" designed to provide support for newer hardware. It includes a 2.6.24 kernel along with an updated installer. Release notes: http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/etchnhalf Installation instructions: http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/debian-installer/etchnhalf See also http://wiki.debian.org/EtchAndAHalf or <etchnhalf facts> |
| 13:55.46 | joelsolanki | Hi all |
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| 13:55.51 | simonrvn | Doctor-Steve: ^^^ |
| 13:55.53 | jpinx | liable: yes - but it's a tailored one |
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| 13:56.20 | Doctor-Steve | simonrvn, when was this released? |
| 13:56.25 | joelsolanki | i have a system with debian sarge running 1 application. apt-get update gives error |
| 13:56.31 | K0b0ld | Hello, everyone!Please help me ...What is the difference of debian CD and DVD,which I use to install my desktop?! |
| 13:56.43 | tarzeau | how can i remove ansi color codes from a ansi text file? |
| 13:56.44 | jpinx | joelsolanki: sarge is no longer supported |
| 13:57.01 | joelsolanki | agree but just wanted to know the update respository. i know it exists |
| 13:57.03 | thumbnail | K0b0ld: the dvd has more packages on it. |
| 13:57.08 | thumbnail | that's about it |
| 13:57.14 | jpinx | joelsolanki: upgrade to etch - read the release notes carefully |
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| 13:57.22 | thumbnail | K0b0ld: you can use either to install from |
| 13:57.26 | adb | !tell K0b0ld about netinstall |
| 13:57.34 | jpinx | !tell joelsolanki about sarge->etch |
| 13:58.06 | joelsolanki | hmm ok |
| 13:58.50 | jpinx | liable: what gets me is that these people selling vps's are running them on an unsupported OS and don't know how to upgrade the host :( |
| 13:58.53 | K0b0ld | Tanks everyone! |
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| 14:00.14 | liable | jpinx: what does it matter if the host is not upgraded? the actual host isnt facing the internet, as long as whatever bits can be exploited are up to date, i dont see the problem. |
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| 14:01.04 | jpinx | liable: most hosts are facing the web, ime |
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| 14:02.24 | liable | jpinx: oh well, i wont argue further, its not something i really know much about. |
| 14:04.21 | jpinx | is reading and learning fast |
| 14:06.30 | TwistOfFate | do people still use nis? |
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| 14:15.59 | TwistOfFate | so nobody uses nis/yp anymore? |
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| 14:16.20 | adb | !nobody |
| 14:16.21 | dpkg | [nobody] a user account commonly found on systems. It has reduced privs. Some daemons are run in this account. These days, most daemons create their own account, with reduced privs. |
| 14:16.31 | helo | is there a good way to use tail -f and grep together that doesn't result in a 10 second delay between a file being updated and seeing the result? |
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| 14:17.38 | TwistOfFate | not exactly what i meant adb. |
| 14:17.43 | asg | helo: man grep ; /--line-buffered |
| 14:17.58 | abrotman | helo: that might also be a by-product of the logging mechanism |
| 14:18.00 | jelly | TwistOfFate: maybe we're all using Active Directory, as $DEITY intended us to |
| 14:18.13 | woden_ | What is the contact manager for GNOME? |
| 14:18.26 | asg | woden_: Evolution |
| 14:18.36 | TwistOfFate | i didn't think there was a better directory service than ad. |
| 14:18.48 | woden_ | asg: Is that the only one, or is there another? Do I have to have an email acccount just to manage contacts or can I open a "contact manager" by itself? |
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| 14:18.56 | helo | abrotman: nah, it's just a c++ app with plenty of std::endl's... i think it shouldn't be buffering too much internally |
| 14:19.12 | asg | woden_: not sure, apt-cache search gnome contact may reveal something else |
| 14:19.32 | thumbnail | can anyone recommend a good, easy to use firewall configuration utility? I just can't be bothered with writing shorewall confs anymore |
| 14:19.37 | abrotman | woden_: i'm sure there's just an address book |
| 14:19.48 | helo | asg: it looks like that option is turned off by default, the --line-buffered just enables line buffering |
| 14:20.02 | woden_ | alright thanks |
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| 14:23.43 | helo | hmm... is it possible to specify more than one pattern for grep to ignore? grep -e pat -e pat2 works for multiple patterns to search for, but grep -v pat -v pat2 doesn't seem to exclude both |
| 14:24.08 | helo | and in fact gives 'no such file: pat2' |
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| 14:24.34 | asg | helo: grep -e 'pat1|pat2' |
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| 14:25.04 | helo | you mean grep -v 'pat1|pat2'? |
| 14:25.06 | abrotman | isn't there a grep man page ? |
| 14:25.27 | Aggro | abrotman: man woman | grep kids |
| 14:26.00 | asg | helo: egrep -v 'pat1|pat2' |
| 14:26.18 | abrotman | Aggro: how is that remotely funny? |
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| 14:27.03 | helo | man abrotman | grep kindness |
| 14:27.15 | asg | abrotman: he was probably looking for 'man sex' |
| 14:27.18 | abrotman | you're getting your questions answered, aren't you ? |
| 14:27.57 | cahoot | early morning somewhere |
| 14:28.01 | abrotman | asg: removed i thought |
| 14:28.23 | asg | abrotman: unless you have funny-manpages or asl-manpages |
| 14:28.56 | abrotman | i meant the application |
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| 14:32.12 | rebecka | ssh -X does not want to work at all... no $DISPLAY is set and I have no idea what to do about it... help? |
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| 14:32.54 | cahoot | rebecka: try /msg dpkg sshx |
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| 14:36.58 | rebecka | cahoot: X11Forwarding is enabled and xauth is installed on both systems. ssh -vvv -X seems to give no output regarding any X auth happening though. |
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| 14:37.44 | grindhold | j #debain |
| 14:38.12 | simonrvn | you *are* in #debian ;) |
| 14:38.23 | simonrvn | but not in #debain |
| 14:38.24 | grindhold | thx :) i just recognized |
| 14:38.51 | TwistOfFate | can whoever maintains the nagios and cacti packages |
| 14:38.52 | grindhold | i want to know how to install the GDlib in debian. i want to run a perl/CGI-script with the GD-module in it |
| 14:39.00 | grindhold | but i don't know the package name |
| 14:39.01 | TwistOfFate | get up off their ass, and bring them to the newest ver please? |
| 14:39.20 | simonrvn | !tell grindhold -about search |
| 14:39.45 | simonrvn | TwistOfFate: bug the maintainer then. i.e., FILE a BUG report |
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| 14:40.00 | grindhold | okay, so apt-get is working under debian just like in ubuntu? |
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| 14:40.16 | asg | TwistOfFate: what version of debian are you using? |
| 14:40.32 | simonrvn | grindhold: apt-get and friends started with debian |
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| 14:40.47 | jpinx | grindhold: what version of debian are you running? |
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| 14:41.03 | grindhold | err. just looking. got my server online for half an hour :D |
| 14:41.15 | guysoft42 | hey, i have a thinkpad that keeps going to sleep mode when i close the lid, is there a way to stop this?? |
| 14:41.32 | simonrvn | isn't it supposed to do that? |
| 14:41.47 | jpinx | guysoft42: that a feature - not a bug |
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| 14:42.18 | liable | guysoft42: check /etc/acpi/actions |
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| 14:42.29 | cahoot | guysoft42: using gnome-power-management= |
| 14:42.29 | guysoft42 | jpinx, i know .. but i carn't seem to get it to stop, i looked in /etc/acpi |
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| 14:42.57 | guysoft42 | cahoot, i am on KDE :S .. let me try.. i have been trying to stop anything lid-related in the events folder |
| 14:43.10 | simonrvn | *blink* *blink* |
| 14:43.31 | grindhold | jpinx: whats the version-command? or is uname -a enough? |
| 14:43.55 | jpinx | grindhold: cat /etc/debian_version |
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| 14:45.21 | guysoft42 | jpinx, this does not work: echo "" > /etc/acpi/actions/lm_lid.sh |
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| 14:46.07 | simonrvn | sure it does. you just emptied it. |
| 14:46.09 | guysoft42 | jpinx, at this point it seems like it ignores the acpi scripts.. unless i am doing something worng |
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| 14:46.40 | guysoft42 | simonrvn, i mean after emptying it it sill goes in to sleep mode.. and i dont want it to |
| 14:46.41 | grindhold | jpinx i am using debian 4.0 |
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| 14:47.24 | liable | did you restart acpid |
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| 14:48.55 | grindhold | i already got the package name "gdlib2-xpm-dev" through research but it didn't work. that was why is asked here, jpinx |
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| 14:49.29 | guysoft42 | echo "" > /etc/acpi/events/lidbtn ; /etc/init.d/acpid restart .. still goes to sleep when closing the lid :( |
| 14:49.35 | guysoft42 | liable, yes.. |
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| 14:49.50 | simonrvn | -dev is just to build against it. i.e, it's got headers and stuff |
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| 14:51.13 | FILLVAIO2 | Hello folks |
| 14:52.14 | jpinx | grindhold: so what's the problem? |
| 14:52.45 | FILLVAIO2 | Is there any shell interface for manage users/groups under Debian? |
| 14:53.01 | grindhold | jpinx the package does not work! |
| 14:53.07 | rebecka | ssh -vvv -X gives no indication that anything X related is happening and $DISPLAY is not set on the remote system please help? |
| 14:54.01 | stew | FILLVAIO2: there are the adduser / addgroup / deluser / delgroup / usermod command |
| 14:54.31 | asg | and vipr and vigr |
| 14:54.35 | stew | FILLVAIO2: there is also commands to let you edit the files, but check the syntax before committing like: vipw and vigr |
| 14:54.37 | FILLVAIO2 | what about an gui interface for sh? |
| 14:54.59 | stew | FILLVAIO2: xterm |
| 14:55.13 | stew | or more generically x-terminal-emulator |
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| 14:56.01 | cahoot | rebecka: /usr/bin/X11/xauth is present on both sides? |
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| 14:56.39 | asg | FILLVAIO2: maybe adduser-ui-cdk will fit what you are looking for |
| 14:56.41 | FILLVAIO2 | i have dedicated server and my bandwidth not so width :) |
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| 14:57.21 | rebecka | cahoot: indeed. |
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| 14:57.56 | rebecka | cahoot: and they are both running lenny. |
| 14:58.43 | stew | i guess a graphical interface for sh, if sh is running on a remote machine, might be putty, but i'm wondering if "gui interface for sh" was really what he meant |
| 14:59.02 | guysoft42 | cahoot, got it. it was kpowersave! .. |
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| 14:59.15 | asg | stew: that was my interpretation; a curses based interface for adduser |
| 14:59.28 | guysoft42 | i made so much havoc in /etc/acpi.. i had a feeling its not there |
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| 15:00.18 | Burn | hello, can somebody tell me when Lenny is going to be released and how long Edgy will be supported? |
| 15:00.27 | jpinx | grindhold: ok - sorry I don't know what that package is |
| 15:00.36 | jpinx | Burn: ask in #ubuntu |
| 15:00.37 | stew | Burn: 1 year or until squeeze is released, whichever is shorter |
| 15:00.38 | asg | Burn: 1) wir (probably in 2009) 2) #ubuntu |
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| 15:00.50 | stew | Burn: wait |
| 15:00.58 | Burn | :) |
| 15:01.07 | cahoot | rebecka: and X11Forwarding really really is enabled in servers sshd_config? tried restarting sshd on server |
| 15:01.07 | stew | Burn: did you mean 'edgy' the ubuntu release? or "etch" the current debian release? |
| 15:01.14 | Burn | I just can't find any schedules on the internet |
| 15:01.21 | Burn | sorry, meant Etch offcourse |
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| 15:01.38 | jpinx | Burn: etch is stable |
| 15:01.42 | stew | Burn: debian doesn't release on a schedule, it sets a bunch of goals, and releases when the goals are met, and there are no release critical bugs holding up the release |
| 15:01.48 | jpinx | there are no schedules |
| 15:01.59 | sharp15 | does anyone here have experience with lenny's ejabberd package? when apt or I try to start the server the init script reports failure but ejabberd's logs don't indicate errors. |
| 15:02.13 | Burn | stew: so, in fact it can be released tomorrow? |
| 15:02.20 | stew | Burn: lenny is currently being held up by bugs, there is no way to predict when they will be all fixed: /msg dpkg rc bugs |
| 15:02.29 | Burn | ok, good |
| 15:02.36 | rebecka | cahoot: really really so. I'll try a restarrt now. |
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| 15:02.42 | Burn | and how long wilt Etch be supported with new packages and stuff? |
| 15:02.54 | stew | Burn: no, it takes more than a day to get a fixed package into lenny once it is fixed, because it needs to be built on 13 architectures before a freeze exception can be added |
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| 15:03.06 | Burn | ok |
| 15:03.10 | _KaszpiR__ | hi |
| 15:03.13 | stew | Burn: with a few exceptions, etch stopped getting new packages in 2006 |
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| 15:03.26 | Burn | stew: I mean security fixes, not new packages |
| 15:03.29 | stew | Burn: after lenny is released etch will be supported for 1 year or until squeeze is releeased |
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| 15:04.17 | Burn | hm, ok |
| 15:04.28 | stew | the other thing that could significantly delay lenny is the current vote which is open to delay it until the non-free firmware in the kernel is sorted |
| 15:04.30 | Burn | stew: is a dist-upgrade to lenny difficult to perform? |
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| 15:04.51 | Burn | I mean, with many riscs? It's important for server systems |
| 15:04.54 | stew | http://www.debian.org/vote/2008/vote_003 |
| 15:04.57 | Error4o4 | is there an easy way i can figure out whether my etch is voulenrable to that openSSL security issue? |
| 15:05.28 | stew | Burn: there are known bugs, but in general it should go smoothly if you follow the recommended upgrade procedure: /msg dpkg lenny release notes |
| 15:05.38 | asg | Error4o4: check the changelog in /usr/share/doc/<pkg> to see if the issue has been addressed. |
| 15:05.41 | rebecka | cahoot: and now it just works... I must've forgotten to restart the server after editing the config... though that I did a *long* time ago... thanks for your help! |
| 15:05.48 | stew | Error4o4: /msg dpkg dsa1571 |
| 15:05.59 | cahoot | rebecka: det är lugnt |
| 15:06.07 | stew | Error4o4: ssh-vulnkey will help you find bad keys |
| 15:06.34 | Error4o4 | ok |
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| 15:08.56 | wrench[HC] | I have an intel Q66 quadcore machine...which version of the OS isos should I grab? |
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| 15:09.04 | wrench[HC] | amd64? |
| 15:09.23 | wrench[HC] | I don't think the hardware is itanium |
| 15:11.34 | jelly | wrench[HC]: yes, amd64 (or i386) |
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| 15:13.54 | djcip | hey - anyone familiar with the nslu2 ? |
| 15:14.18 | abrotman | that's not a real question |
| 15:15.13 | wrench[HC] | abrotman: mine? |
| 15:15.26 | abrotman | wrench[HC]: you got your answer |
| 15:15.42 | wrench[HC] | abrotman: oh...just saw it. Thanks! |
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| 15:16.19 | stew | djcip: just assume 'yes' and ask your real question |
| 15:16.29 | djcip | ok - real question - i'm running debian armel on my nslu2 and i'm having some serious performance issues with a php/mysql setup |
| 15:16.54 | abrotman | don't they have like .. 64MB RAM ? |
| 15:16.59 | asg | abrotman: 32 |
| 15:17.00 | djcip | i intended to use the box and a 250gb drive as a small/silent php/mysql server for hosting wordpresses |
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| 15:17.14 | abrotman | asg: all at the same time? :) |
| 15:17.22 | djcip | seems like loading the admin page takes 3 mintues - anything i can do? |
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| 15:17.44 | djcip | like the wordpress admin page takes 3 minutes |
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| 15:21.05 | asg | djcip: use top and free to determine if you are swapping like mad. This is likely to be the case with so little memory. |
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| 15:21.26 | abrotman | they can't be 'upgraded' ? |
| 15:21.36 | djcip | the chips are soldered on... |
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| 15:21.50 | djcip | um so how do i do the top and free thing? |
| 15:21.56 | asg | abrotman: the cpu can be overclocked a bit but that's about it |
| 15:22.02 | djcip | yup - did that |
| 15:22.10 | djcip | :D yay for tweezers :D |
| 15:22.10 | asg | djcip: ssh in, type 'top' ; type 'free' |
| 15:22.12 | d-b | djcip: increase the swap |
| 15:22.20 | d-b | and use memcache i guess / lighthttpd |
| 15:22.41 | abrotman | increasing swap isn't going to help if he's already swapping like mad |
| 15:22.57 | asg | d-b: the slug has 32M of memory, I don't think memcache is going to help a whole lot |
| 15:23.00 | d-b | etc. -> use a reverse proxy / use the wordpress lock down page |
| 15:23.12 | d-b | plugin * |
| 15:23.43 | d-b | and its still going to be damn slow |
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| 15:24.52 | abrotman | we already said that |
| 15:26.24 | asg | now, if you had three slugs, one running lighttpd + php, one running mysql, and one running memcached, you might get decent performance |
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| 15:27.17 | nhuisman_work | hey anyone know a quick way to get a single ip response for a given hostname (dns lookup) I thought one of the dns lookup commands did that with a swithc |
| 15:27.33 | asg | nhuisman_work: host |
| 15:27.44 | nhuisman_work | argg heh |
| 15:27.47 | nhuisman_work | the one I always forget |
| 15:28.18 | djcip | yah... i'll just bring my quadcore to college |
| 15:28.27 | dokma | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:29.34 | nhuisman_work | guess I should have read dig's man page closer |
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| 15:29.39 | nhuisman_work | it is 5:35am and i've had no sleep |
| 15:29.56 | dokma | nhuisman_work: I've done that last sunday |
| 15:30.08 | dokma | when I woke up I solved a few of the problems in a few minutes |
| 15:30.10 | nhuisman_work | dokma, I have a presentation to do tomorrow |
| 15:30.13 | nhuisman_work | well |
| 15:30.14 | nhuisman_work | in 4 hours |
| 15:30.17 | dokma | doesn't pay off at all |
| 15:30.24 | nhuisman_work | dokma, mostly just writing documentation |
| 15:30.35 | dokma | ahh... I see |
| 15:30.40 | nhuisman_work | dokma, but I agree |
| 15:32.45 | dokma | my system freezes when I open a video in kaffeine or xine. it started when I installed my new radeon hd3450 |
| 15:33.07 | dokma | can't think of an intelligent way to debug that |
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| 15:33.21 | nhuisman_work | take the card out? |
| 15:33.26 | nhuisman_work | and make sure |
| 15:33.49 | dokma | works fine with the onboard chip |
| 15:33.57 | thumbnail | why does dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg only ask me about my keyboard and not which video drivers I want to use? |
| 15:33.58 | nhuisman_work | update your driver |
| 15:34.02 | dokma | I'd like to find out if it's the driver or the card |
| 15:34.12 | dokma | I see |
| 15:34.20 | dokma | I think I installed some old driver for it |
| 15:34.24 | dokma | might try the new one |
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| 15:34.47 | stew | thumbnail: becuase the video drivers are automatically detected at runtime |
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| 15:35.23 | stew | thumbnail: you can edit xorg.conf if you want to override this detection |
| 15:35.25 | thumbnail | stew: ah, I see, and if I want to configure the modules/font paths etc, is that all done at runtime as well? |
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| 15:36.40 | stew | thumbnail: the x server can detect a lot on its own now, i think you don't even need an xorg.conf. you can, however specify whatever pieces you want in xorg.conf to override the autodetection, this would include things like fonts and modules and drivers |
| 15:37.12 | thumbnail | stew: thanks, I got it now :) |
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| 15:43.56 | nhuisman_work | ok my brain is melting now |
| 15:43.57 | nhuisman_work | so tired |
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| 15:45.22 | aadil | 32 degrees C in here |
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| 15:45.58 | aadil | oops |
| 15:45.59 | aadil | :) |
| 15:46.10 | yitz_ | Is there some command or something I need to do to get pkg-config to work? |
| 15:47.16 | petemc | yitz_: have you installed it? |
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| 15:47.45 | yitz_ | petemc: pkg-config is installed but doesn't seem to be configured and some Makefile I got is trying to use it |
| 15:48.51 | petemc | yitz_: a better way to ask would be to give the exact error, but dont paste here] |
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| 17:14.12 | scribeskul | enouf: go figure |
| 17:15.09 | enouf | scribeskul: seems so .... in some cases - otherwise i see an mdf2iso app ;-) |
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| 17:17.00 | enouf | seems some needed to use 'kiso' as well .. however, those that are like .nrg nero imgs just need to a skip=150 (or similar dd option) |
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| 17:20.41 | elux | hey guys |
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| 17:21.53 | elux | so i want to use Rails 2.2.2 on my server, but it requires RubyGems 1.3. I'm running Debian Etch, and even in the backports rubygems is just at 1.1.1.. RubyGems 1.3 is only available in the experimental branch |
| 17:22.10 | elux | what do you guys recommend I do? im really getting fed up with Debian's packaging system... |
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| 17:22.31 | rgr | switching to xdm I see my PATH is now not set from my .bashrc or my .bash_login. If I open a gnome terminal the path is ok in that terminal (source .bashrc). Where do I set the path to include my local ~/bin when logging in with xdm? |
| 17:22.45 | rgr | (or where best) |
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| 17:27.23 | trifler | nmapping yourself shows internal "stuffs" (not sure of the word) right? So to check want's open externally you can use? |
| 17:27.32 | trifler | what's* |
| 17:27.39 | mre | can anyone here help me solve my iwl3945 problem; the module loads but it says that it's killed by the hardware killswitch although it isn't; here's what i get from dmesg | grep iwl: iwl3945: Radio disabled by HW RF Kill switch |
| 17:28.03 | trifler | mre: You got a thinkpad? |
| 17:28.21 | mre | no, HP nx7400 |
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| 17:29.03 | mre | running a lenny/sid 2.6.26-1-amd64 x86_64 kernel |
| 17:29.05 | trifler | mre: Okey sorry then I'm out. |
| 17:29.25 | mre | ;) |
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| 17:30.56 | mre | as far as i have googled for this issue it seems to be some sort of bug |
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| 17:38.13 | rgr | is it ok to source .basrhc in .xsessoin? |
| 17:38.25 | rgr | .bashrc in .xsession that is ... |
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| 17:40.01 | __bytes__ | hi everybody, I am looking for an advice. I need a more recent version of a package than the one that comes with etch. How should I proceed without messing up my debian install? |
| 17:40.21 | simNIX | add backports repository |
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| 17:40.50 | enouf | rgr: there's already the line you want in ~/.bash_profile (it's commented out via default) |
| 17:40.52 | mre | or compile from source and make a deb package |
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| 17:41.39 | meyou | ugh, i'm trying to setup a dummy smtp server for software testing. dumbster appears to be exactly what i need, but i can't for the life of me figure out how to fire it up |
| 17:41.39 | __bytes__ | simNIX: I love how a three word answer can resolve everything =) |
| 17:41.50 | enouf | rgr: but yeah, when using a DM, using a .xsession is preferred (/msg dpkg xsession) , and note; i think xdm drops config files into /etc/X11/ |
| 17:41.52 | rgr | enouf: thats what I thought. But its not being sucked in. Its the usal "if exists then include" line. So I can only guess xdm is not execing the .bash_profile either |
| 17:41.59 | __bytes__ | mire: prefere it as last solution if everything else fails |
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| 17:42.37 | rgr | enouf: I got it working by editing 7etc/X11/xdm config files but I dont want that since I want it set from a file in my ~. |
| 17:42.38 | __bytes__ | now, are backports repository official? where to have a list? |
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| 17:42.44 | rgr | can I not export PATH in my .xsession? |
| 17:42.54 | enouf | why not? ;-) |
| 17:43.13 | rgr | I dont want it system wide ... |
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| 17:43.28 | enouf | !dotfiles |
| 17:43.28 | dpkg | [dotfiles] http://wiki.debian.org/DotFiles, or http://www.dotfiles.com/ Remember that changes to these files won't be reflected until you log out and then log back in. Ask me about <bash login scripts>. |
| 17:43.35 | enouf | are not system-wide |
| 17:43.44 | Thumpity | I just installed XFCE4, it runs fine if I login and do a startx, how do I make it start at boot? |
| 17:43.52 | Thumpity | thanks |
| 17:43.53 | rgr | huh? I know. Thats why I want to edit a dot file. But not sure which one. |
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| 17:44.04 | __bytes__ | is this a good place? http://www.backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php |
| 17:44.07 | rgr | Oh I see, you meant "why not" about my .xsession file? |
| 17:44.13 | Thumpity | tried google, but couldnt find it |
| 17:44.19 | enouf | Thumpity: update-alternatives --config [TAB][TAB] .. look for an xfce4- something |
| 17:44.27 | enouf | rgr: correct |
| 17:44.33 | Thumpity | enouf: thanks |
| 17:44.41 | robyonrails | away |
| 17:44.45 | enouf | Thumpity: similarly note the various ; x-cursor-theme x-session-manager x-terminal-emulator x-window-manager x-www-browser |
| 17:44.45 | rgr | enouf: then I will add this "source ~/.bash_profile" |
| 17:44.48 | rgr | brb |
| 17:45.02 | Thumpity | enouf: thank you |
| 17:45.07 | enouf | np |
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| 17:47.14 | enouf | Thumpity: er... maybe i misunderstood? if startx fires up xfce4-session for you - then the x-session-manager is set correctly, IINM .. but you want to maybe install a DM? aka; gdm, xdm, kdm , wdm from which you can set to autologin? |
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| 17:47.54 | enouf | Thumpity: so, when the system boots, you do nothing but wait, and when done booting, your xfce desktop is there? |
| 17:48.15 | Thumpity | enouf: great... that is what I was thinking |
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| 17:48.20 | Thumpity | enouf: got it |
| 17:48.21 | enouf | needs to run for a while |
| 17:48.24 | enouf | ok ;-) |
| 17:48.29 | Thumpity | enouf: thanks again |
| 17:50.40 | Thumpity | enouf: perfect! installed xdm, exactly what I was looking for |
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| 17:51.57 | Thumpity | enouf: probably a dumb question, but I was having trouble locating the answer... thanks. |
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| 18:03.31 | Alexplay | is it possible to compile the kernel with the MTU already set to 1500 ? so i don't have to change it everytime, because if i edit /etc/network/interfaces it fucks up my connection. |
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| 18:03.54 | dacs | how can i set the time on my system from the shell |
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| 18:05.21 | Alexplay | is it possible to compile the kernel with the MTU already set to 1500 ? so i don't have to change it everytime, because if i edit /etc/network/interfaces it fucks up my connection. |
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| 18:07.08 | Alexplay | is it possible to compile the kernel with the MTU already set to 1500 ? so i don't have to change it everytime, because if i edit /etc/network/interfaces it fucks up my connection. |
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| 18:07.53 | martin3z | why if i change in chkconfig some service in level3, and then change between runlevels, this service not starting and not stopping as i expected? |
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| 18:08.52 | martin3z | i have: chkconfig --level 3 ssh on |
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| 18:09.07 | martin3z | and i change runlevel: telinit 3 |
| 18:09.45 | Alexplay | is it possible to compile the kernel with the MTU already set to 1500 ? so i don't have to change it everytime, because if i edit /etc/network/interfaces it fucks up my connection. |
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| 18:09.55 | hesco | My attempt to 'apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.18-6-686' gets me: 'Could not find postinst hook script [update-grub].' I'm running lilo on this machine (had trouble getting grub to work for some reason and so gave up on the idea in favor of getting the server up). |
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| 18:11.18 | martin3z | iafter chkconfig i get: insserv: warning: script 'S19lib....02' missing LBS tags and overrides |
| 18:12.31 | hesco | how would I resolve this issue? My /etc/initramfs-tools/hooks/ is empty. Any clues? |
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| 18:13.25 | enouf | returns momentarily for a swarm of answers; a) martin3z see #redhat, #centos, #fedora (and if you are truly using debian, /msg dpkg inittab) b) Alexplay you certainly wont get any answers by repeating so often , and might even get flamed and c) hesco see if /etc/kernel-img.conf is what you need to edit |
| 18:13.43 | enouf | bye .. for a little while all |
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| 18:21.33 | drasko_ | hi all. ./configure is giving me: configure: error: Cannot find GTK: Is gtk-config in path? Any ideas? |
| 18:21.55 | Eulex | drasko_, install the -dev package of gtk |
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| 18:22.19 | drasko_ | Eulex, I did: apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev |
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| 18:22.56 | Eulex | drasko_, that's gtk2. it wants gtk1. |
| 18:23.06 | abrotman | drasko_: your application is old! |
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| 18:23.35 | drasko_ | abrotman, yes. How to fix this? |
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| 18:24.22 | abrotman | drasko_: what are you compiling? |
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| 18:24.50 | hesco | enouf: should you see this when you breeze back by, thanks, that was helpful. |
| 18:24.58 | drasko_ | Komodo, http://intranet.cs.man.ac.uk/Study_subweb/Ugrad/coursenotes/komodo/ |
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| 18:26.08 | abrotman | drasko_: and which version of debian are you on ? |
| 18:26.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | drasko_, why don't you use the debian package? |
| 18:26.29 | drasko_ | abrotman, lenny |
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| 18:26.55 | abrotman | CutMeOwnThroat: if there were one ? |
| 18:27.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | package kmd? Description: Komodo Manchester Debugger |
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| 18:27.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | judd, versions kmd |
| 18:27.25 | judd | CutMeOwnThroat: kmd -- etch: 0.9.19-1.1 lenny: 0.9.19-1.1+b1 sid: 0.9.19-1.1+b1 |
| 18:27.37 | drasko_ | CutMeOwnThroat, well, I did first, but it does not seem to have compile option. It is complaining that kmd_compile command not found, so I thought to check the build from source |
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| 18:28.03 | drasko_ | CutMeOwnThroat, I mean compile for arm assembly, |
| 18:28.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | start building from the source package, then |
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| 18:30.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | apt-get build-dep kmd; apt-get source kmd # then change what you want and enter directory, make the package with dpkg-buildpackage |
| 18:30.57 | drasko_ | CutMeOwnThroat, thanks |
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| 18:31.51 | martin3z | why in debian chkconfig don't have --level option, and in fedora there is? |
| 18:33.23 | stew | debian has chkconfig? |
| 18:33.30 | stew | martin3z: you should be using update-rc.d |
| 18:33.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | yes, seems so |
| 18:34.25 | abrotman | CutMeOwnThroat: i used 'komodo' |
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| 18:34.50 | martin3z | stew: ok, thanks, its good idea |
| 18:35.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | abrotman, 1st time I hear of it... |
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| 18:36.15 | abrotman | drasko_: it's already compiled for arm |
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| 18:37.01 | dabreegster | I'm trying to generate a slideshow video from pictures, but something like dvd-slideshow isnt sufficent because I need to add captions beneath images. Can anybody recommend anything please? |
| 18:37.43 | drasko_ | abrotman, I mean, inside the kmd there is button "compile". I pointed it to example.S and pressed compile, and then it complains that there: sh: kmd_compile command not found |
| 18:38.02 | abrotman | !find kmd_compile lenny |
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| 18:41.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | mmm |
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| 18:42.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | drasko_, are you sure it's supposed to work? http://www.zap.org.au/elec2041-cdrom/board/src/komodo/src/kmd_compile |
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| 18:42.55 | cbeok | can any body tell me how to clear my cached ssl certificates in iceweasel? |
| 18:43.24 | cbeok | where are they kept? |
| 18:43.27 | drasko_ | CutMeOwnThroat, well... looks like not... |
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| 18:44.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | drasko_, if that page is not outdated, I can easily understand why the maintainer choose not to include this program into the debian package :) |
| 18:45.19 | newsense | i have a wireless adapter and have added it to /etc/network/interfaces with the channel essid and wep key but it wont associate until i manually run iwconfig with essid |
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| 18:45.56 | newsense | if i run iwconfig it shows my essid and channel and key correctly |
| 18:46.21 | newsense | dhclient wlan0 has no effect until i run iwconfig wlan0 essid myessid |
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| 18:52.25 | abrotman | newsense: paste your interfaces file in a pastebin |
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| 18:56.57 | plb_ | Hm, I hope this guy isn't right about Spring/Summer 2009 release date for Lenny.. http://blog.venthur.de/2008/12/09/lennys-release-date-iii/ |
| 18:57.59 | drasko_ | CutMeOwnThroat, well, this explains the things: http://intranet.cs.man.ac.uk/Study_subweb/Ugrad/coursenotes/komodo/manual.html#compilation |
| 18:58.07 | drasko_ | CutMeOwnThroat, thanks |
| 18:59.34 | kunwon1 | dpkg, wwlr |
| 18:59.35 | dpkg | Lenny (5.0) will release WIR, SIYH and RSN. It will not be released while there are release critical bugs: http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical and see "Number concerning the next release". It might release before the end of 2008, but then again, it might not. Ask me about <wir> <siyh> <rsn> <lenny status> <lenny pool> and see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2008/07/msg00005.html |
| 18:59.57 | plb_ | I know all about the WIR =) |
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| 19:00.06 | plb_ | just thought I'd share that |
| 19:00.09 | plb_ | =) |
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| 19:00.57 | kunwon1 | plb_, :) |
| 19:01.26 | stew | plb_: he's got a result that he wants and is making up some nonsense graphs to try to support him. his graphs don't look at all convincing to me |
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| 19:03.05 | plb_ | Hm, wonder if that guy is a dev...I saw the link on Debian planet |
| 19:03.29 | plb_ | Spring/Summer 2009 does sound a bit far fetched |
| 19:03.44 | newsense | abrotman: still there ? |
| 19:04.24 | stew | plb_: he is a DD |
| 19:04.51 | plb_ | Well I'll keep my fingers crossed for a 2008 release :) |
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| 19:05.45 | stew | plb_: 2008 isn't likely, depending on the outcome of the current "lenny" vote, sprint 2009 would also be unlikely |
| 19:06.20 | jpinx | for webservers and a basic desktop it's not too critical - but Debain is certainly seen as the old fogey dist of linux |
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| 19:06.33 | amphi | !debain |
| 19:06.33 | dpkg | Debian! D-E-B-I-A-N! The founder of Debian was not named "Ain". Sheesh! |
| 19:07.09 | jpinx | apologises to Ian |
| 19:07.11 | plb_ | jpinx: I think slackware is more of the old fogey |
| 19:07.24 | plb_ | though they just put out a new release today |
| 19:07.34 | Error4o4 | want to make a /dev/null like device file, where can i figure out the node numbers for it? |
| 19:07.44 | newsense | i have a wireless adapter and have added it to /etc/network/interfaces with the channel essid and wep key but it wont associate until i manually run iwconfig with essid |
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| 19:07.57 | stew | Error4o4: ls -l /dev/null |
| 19:08.01 | newsense | http://paste.debian.net/23413 < interfaces file |
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| 19:09.02 | Error4o4 | stew: ok so it would be 1 3 |
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| 19:09.22 | stew | Error4o4: yes |
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| 19:09.39 | drcode | hi all |
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| 19:09.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | chappi with the blog got a point with unstable becoming outdated during long freeze times before release, though |
| 19:09.53 | drcode | I am looking for somthing smiler like MS sliverlight |
| 19:10.07 | drcode | any idea? |
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| 19:11.01 | cahoot | newsense: I might be wrong but you probably can do better withe the help of wpa_supplicant |
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| 19:11.29 | newsense | cahoot: heh didnt think of that |
| 19:11.30 | Aggro | drcode: Java Applets? |
| 19:11.36 | cahoot | newsense: this might give you some hints: http://www.vollink.com/gary/deb_wifi.html |
| 19:11.43 | Error4o4 | stew: thx |
| 19:11.50 | drcode | I prefer based on ajax or flash |
| 19:12.11 | newsense | cahoot: thanks ill give that a try |
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| 19:12.26 | Aggro | drcode: http://www.croczilla.com/svg/samples/ |
| 19:12.27 | drcode | I want to build (easy way) prof. site |
| 19:12.36 | Aggro | drcode: See the tetris example |
| 19:12.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | stew, but yeah, bit funny that he draws a line through all minima for the 2nd line, but misses one for the 3rd... well, we'll see what century it releases in :) |
| 19:12.49 | Aggro | drcode: Then you want php |
| 19:13.12 | cahoot | newsense: also /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/examples/wep.conf |
| 19:13.34 | newsense | ty |
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| 19:13.45 | newsense | sorry thank you |
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| 19:13.59 | newsense | was reading the link and got lazy |
| 19:14.07 | cahoot | np ;) |
| 19:14.31 | drcode | thnx Aggro |
| 19:15.36 | abrotman | newsense: kind of |
| 19:15.58 | abrotman | guess newsense got it fixed |
| 19:16.03 | newsense | nope |
| 19:16.17 | abrotman | newsense: try the allow-hotplug line item |
| 19:16.31 | newsense | without wpa supplicant ? |
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| 19:23.55 | bzsa | <bzsa> how can I "press" C-A-D in thigntvnc? |
| 19:23.55 | bzsa | <bzsa> quest is a XP |
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| 19:34.46 | woden_ | Anyone know how to set up a folder with drag and drop encryption? |
| 19:34.47 | woden_ | Transparently hooked to your logon. |
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| 19:35.18 | Reemo | woden_ you can do that with cryptsetup |
| 19:35.56 | Alexplay1 | I want to modify how many times it does a DHCP request when it boots up, it's annoying when i'm disconnected i have to wait for like 10 requests |
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| 19:36.27 | meyou | what's an MTA that will require authentication and check against /etc/passwd? |
| 19:36.34 | meyou | preferably out of the box :o |
| 19:36.56 | cahoot | Alexplay: how many or how often? |
| 19:37.18 | Alexplay1 | like max 3 requests and how often, as often as possible |
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| 19:37.29 | beli | mecca_: you can configure any mta to do that |
| 19:37.40 | beli | meyou: google for TLS |
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| 19:38.12 | beli | meyou: sendmail, exim, postfix, zmailer ....and TLS |
| 19:38.32 | itstegg | i have a fresh debian install under vmware server. i have turned on usb device sharing for the vmware image, how do i mount my external harddrive ? |
| 19:40.44 | cahoot | Alexplay: man dhclient.conf |
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| 19:40.44 | meyou | beli: there's no packages that do it by default? :( |
| 19:40.44 | Alexplay1 | cahoot: where is located this file? |
| 19:40.44 | cahoot | Alexplay1: I have these: backoff-cutoff 1; initial-interval 1; |
| 19:40.44 | beli | meyou: what do you want to do? what is that mta for? how much mail does it have to serve? are you using an mta already? |
| 19:40.45 | cahoot | Alexplay1: request every s |
| 19:40.45 | meyou | beli: i just need to test some software that sends mail via smtp |
| 19:40.53 | meyou | i need something that will reject if it's not giving valid creds |
| 19:41.00 | meyou | strictly testing, internal, etc. |
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| 19:41.39 | meyou | it would be nice but not necessary if i could view the raw smtp commands received by the mta |
| 19:41.41 | beli | meyou: with debian i recommend postfix then and adjust the config |
| 19:42.52 | meyou | any tips or pointers on adjusting the config? |
| 19:42.59 | beli | meyou: read --> http://www.postfix.org/TLS_README.html |
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| 19:44.01 | meyou | thanks |
| 19:45.19 | Reemo | Ahh just noticed php5-gd in Lenny Rep isn't the anti-alias enabled gd shipped with php5, is there any information on how php5 was compiled for the package? Didn't find it |
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| 19:53.08 | woden_ | Reemo: cryptsetup is for encrypted partitions only? |
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| 19:54.21 | Reemo | woden_: smoothest way i know would be to create a container and mounting it to the directory... |
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| 19:54.53 | Reemo | with cryptsetup of course, but i don't think you can mix uncrypted and crypted directories/files in one filesystem |
| 19:55.51 | woden_ | :/ |
| 19:56.02 | woden_ | Ubuntu apparently did it....but I don't use that. |
| 19:56.22 | Reemo | well, how Oo |
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| 19:56.58 | woden_ | It's a new feature I read about in Ubuntu 8.10. Not sure how they did it. |
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| 19:57.32 | Reemo | hmm link? |
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| 19:58.11 | Reemo | http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/09/23/encrypted-private-directory-in-ubuntu-810/ |
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| 19:58.18 | Reemo | Well, looks like they did like i said... |
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| 19:58.52 | woden_ | Reemo: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810overview |
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| 20:00.22 | woden_ | Reemo: Encrypted private directory: support for a secret encrypted folder in your Home Folder. |
| 20:00.40 | Reemo | well i think you can adapt that |
| 20:00.49 | Reemo | but actually they nearly do the same like i recommend |
| 20:01.10 | woden_ | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory |
| 20:01.12 | Reemo | ecryptfs seems to just crypt the content |
| 20:01.17 | nullboy | you just need to create a container with dd |
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| 20:01.58 | nullboy | then you loop mount that containter file |
| 20:02.08 | nullboy | it's easy |
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| 20:03.09 | woden_ | But then I have to manually mount it at the terminal each time |
| 20:03.16 | nullboy | ... |
| 20:03.19 | nullboy | automate it |
| 20:03.36 | woden_ | I want it to automate through my user logon with GDM. |
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| 20:04.05 | Reemo | woden_, use cryptsetup |
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| 20:04.35 | Reemo | It's the same amount of work and works fine (see Caveats on that help page) |
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| 20:06.56 | eptalon | heyas |
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| 20:11.19 | woden_ | What is the name of the command line program that generates human readable passwords? |
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| 20:11.49 | hetOrakel | does any1 know where asm/io.h resides? |
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| 20:14.20 | Aggro | woden_: pwgen |
| 20:14.36 | woden_ | Aggro: thx you saved me some time |
| 20:14.56 | Aggro | woden_: You wasted mine, I had to google it ;) |
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| 20:15.16 | seldon | hetOrakel: in linux-headers-2.6.26-1-common-xen, according to apt-file. |
| 20:15.22 | adb | usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.26-1-common/include/asm-x86/io.h |
| 20:15.35 | woden_ | Aggro: hah! |
| 20:15.43 | noppe | does anyone know a decent fontmanager? fontmatrix apparently can't handle 60000+ fonts |
| 20:16.56 | Octalot | hetOrakel: there's a sys/io.h in libc6-dev. Actual kernel source has many asm-<machine type>/io.h files. |
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| 20:19.01 | scribeskul | Hey guys! Anyone have any experience using Wine under 'Etch' or 'Lenny'? |
| 20:19.24 | kantor | I have troubles with flash plugin. I installed the libflash-mozplugin (and libflash0c2 as a dependency) flashplugin-nonfree (from backports) packages but iceweasel still can't display flash context |
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| 20:19.39 | scribeskul | Specifically, running nvidia Grfx cards under WIne? I am having a problem where dxdiag is reporting back incorrect video card settings |
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| 20:20.01 | rebecka | yes? |
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| 20:20.37 | rebecka | scribeskul: no. |
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| 20:23.34 | giacomo_c | how do i add a printer in debian? it doesn't seem to work the same as ubuntu did |
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| 20:25.44 | adb | giacomo_c: http://www.google.ch/search?hl=fr&q=+add+a+printer+in+debian&btnG=Recherche+Google&meta= |
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| 20:26.52 | hetOrakel | Octalot: thx! it compiles now! |
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| 20:29.27 | giacomo_c | is this for network printers? im using a laptop and i need to use a printer attached to a XP machine |
| 20:29.35 | woden_ | PGP encrypting files on your local filesystem is kind of pointless because in order to decrypt them you have to save them as unencrypted files on your filesystem.... |
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| 20:30.58 | giacomo_c | but can't you then delete the unencrypted file after you get what you want? |
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| 20:31.29 | woden_ | giacomo_c: I can delete the reference to that file, yes. But the data is still on the hard drive. |
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| 20:31.47 | cahoot | shred? |
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| 20:32.54 | woden_ | cahoot: Yea, I could do that. Good suggestion, thanks. But I would rather encrypt files so that I can open them up in memory instead of saving them onto my hard drive. |
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| 20:33.19 | cahoot | ramdisk? |
| 20:33.35 | woden_ | ugh |
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| 20:33.49 | woden_ | then the file will go away after each reboot. I need it to be persistent. |
| 20:34.04 | DanDare | Hello. Where i can find to know the differences between Debian distros ? I want to know differences between 40r4a and 40r5... wich kernel version cames with any of them? |
| 20:34.04 | giacomo_c | woden_: you know there are file shreders |
| 20:34.10 | giacomo_c | do a 15 pass shred of a file |
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| 20:35.27 | woden_ | giacomo_c: Yes, cahoot made that suggestions. Thanks. But I am looking for a more elegant solution. I want to be able to double-click my encrypted file and type in my password and have the file open up in memory. As it stands currently, I am unable to do that. I have to type in my password and first save the unencrypted file to my hard drive, and then open it up. |
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| 20:36.19 | giacomo_c | i see |
| 20:36.25 | MaleXachi | Hello again |
| 20:36.46 | MaleXachi | I have a question. Can anyone help me? |
| 20:36.49 | giacomo_c | would using an encrypted file system suit you woden_? |
| 20:36.56 | abrotman | MaleXachi: like we told you last time .. just ask |
| 20:37.43 | woden_ | giacomo_c: I didn't really want to create an encrypted partition. I was wanting to just encrypt a file or folder on my existing root ext3 partition. |
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| 20:37.50 | giacomo_c | can i do a search for network printers some how? so when i go to add one i have something to put in the host and port number |
| 20:37.58 | MaleXachi | have a problem with flash. I can not use flash in iceweasel webrowser, even if it is installed. |
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| 20:38.50 | DanDare | what´s the etch-and-a-half Etch distro? The 40r5 realease ? |
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| 20:39.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | woden_, you can't eat the cake and also have it... what about big files that don't fit into your memory? Think of unzip/unrar programs - they show you the result directly, but silently unpack stuff to disk |
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| 20:40.15 | woden_ | CutMeOwnThroat: Is unzip/unrar a valid analogy to encryption/decryption? |
| 20:40.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, not impossible to put it in memory... but then it gets swapped out and you find it in swap |
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| 20:40.28 | giacomo_c | maybe you could have it decrypt to your swap partition woden_ but i have no idea if that's possible or a way to do it |
| 20:40.33 | woden_ | CutMeOwnThroat: But swap is not persistent... |
| 20:40.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | woden_, deleted files are also not persistent |
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| 20:41.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | what command do you use to unencrypt a file with gpg? |
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| 20:41.30 | woden_ | CutMeOwnThroat: They are a lot more persistent (being recorded as 0s and 1s on the magnetic plater of your hard drive) than swap which is erased on reboot....true? |
| 20:41.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | hell, no |
| 20:42.10 | woden_ | When you delete a file, the binary data is still on your hard drive. |
| 20:42.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | why would the system waste time erasing swap |
| 20:42.15 | woden_ | THAT is a fact, I am sure. |
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| 20:42.25 | Constin | ру |
| 20:42.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | it's just overwriting it as need is for sure |
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| 20:42.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | anyways, if it was erased at reboot, what good would that do you? |
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| 20:42.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | someone would steal the disk and extract it from swap |
| 20:43.02 | woden_ | Alright, forget about swap then. Why can't I just decrypt the file purely into memory? Let's assume I am not working with humongous files. Just regular everyday little files. |
| 20:43.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | ... as he would steal the disk to get the erased file |
| 20:43.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | woden_, you didn't answer my question, btw |
| 20:43.36 | cahoot | woden_: weren't you worrying about persistence between reboots? |
| 20:43.53 | Minoru | hello! May you say me is XChat in Debian Lenny compiled with SpellCheking support? |
| 20:44.06 | woden_ | cahoot: Yes, last time I checked memory (RAM) was volatile.....that is, not persistent. |
| 20:44.10 | Minoru | spellchwking in my precompiled xchat don't work :( |
| 20:44.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | woden_, you can... "gpg -d < somefile.pgp |less" |
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| 20:44.30 | cahoot | woden_: so what do you mean by 'into memory'? |
| 20:45.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | ha... I had a pgp key/passphrase once... 7 years ago... you'd think I remember it? |
| 20:45.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | :( |
| 20:45.27 | woden_ | cahoot: I have an encrypted file. I double-click on it. I enter the valid password. The file opens up and I can read the contents of the file. Nothing is saved to the hard drive. When I close the file, nothing is saved. |
| 20:45.41 | cahoot | right |
| 20:45.44 | Minoru | i have aspell, myspell and ispell installed with english dictionaries but it doesn't work :( |
| 20:45.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | woden_, I answered you for that |
| 20:46.01 | woden_ | CutMeOwnThroat: I don't want an encrypted partition though |
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| 20:46.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | did you READ what I wrote? |
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| 20:46.37 | woden_ | Might have missed it. Checking now. |
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| 20:47.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | <CutMeOwnThroat> woden_, you can... "gpg -d < somefile.pgp |less" |
| 20:47.17 | woden_ | <CutMeOwnThroat> well, not impossible to put it in memory... but then it gets swapped out and you find it in swap |
| 20:47.21 | woden_ | Oh |
| 20:47.35 | woden_ | CutMeOwnThroat: or use shred. same idea. |
| 20:47.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | heh? |
| 20:47.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | that's EXACTLY what you asked |
| 20:47.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | my |
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| 20:48.20 | woden_ | Got it now |
| 20:48.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | dpkg, montypythonsmite woden_ |
| 20:48.24 | dpkg | drops a 16 ton weight on woden_ |
| 20:48.24 | woden_ | Thanks, by the way. |
| 20:48.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | ah, I feel better now ;) |
| 20:48.33 | woden_ | Oh come on :) |
| 20:49.18 | woden_ | does the "gpg -d < somefile.pgp |less" get swapped out, just curious? |
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| 20:49.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | if you need a fancy (ahem) window, exchange less with xless |
| 20:49.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | everything can get swapped out |
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| 20:49.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | probably not while you use it |
| 20:50.52 | Aggro | Don't use swap and avoid things getting swapped out |
| 20:51.09 | woden_ | Aggro: 8-) |
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| 20:51.41 | woden_ | CutMeOwnThroat: I used your command but took out the |less part and it just outputs the contents of the file to my terminal. Nice. |
| 20:51.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | you can use less -B 1K |
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| 20:53.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | that only works for very small files, though :) |
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| 20:56.14 | kantor | hi |
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| 20:57.18 | kantor | I reinstalled debian etch and now I have troubles with adobe flash plugin . . . I installed the nonfree package, the tarball from the adebe webpage . . . but nothing works |
| 20:57.59 | woden_ | god |
| 20:58.07 | Aggro | woden_: Yes? |
| 20:58.13 | woden_ | :) |
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| 20:58.31 | woden_ | I just find it amazing that people are /still/ having problems getting flash to work. |
| 20:59.00 | Aggro | woden_: It is closed source, what did you expect. |
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| 20:59.51 | woden_ | Yea it is closed source, true. |
| 21:00.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | !doesn't work |
| 21:00.03 | dpkg | Look buddy, "doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message". |
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| 21:00.41 | woden_ | But, flash is binary and so are all debian packages ;) |
| 21:00.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | although I admit that's a bit difficult |
| 21:00.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | in this case |
| 21:00.53 | simonrvn | it being closed source doesn't make it hard, it's people not understanding they need to restart the damned browser to make it work, and linux-based oses - for the most part - not handholding them and telling them to restart the browser, or worse restart the computer *shudder*. |
| 21:01.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | simonrvn, I regularly restart my computer |
| 21:01.48 | simonrvn | lemme guess, lappy? |
| 21:01.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | ... on each power failure |
| 21:02.02 | simonrvn | haha :) |
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| 21:03.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | mm, I don't run etch anymore... |
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| 21:04.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | simonrvn, and actually, about restarting the browser... prefbar can switch flash support on and off on-the-fly by renaming the flash runtime library |
| 21:05.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | at least it can for a user-installed flash |
| 21:05.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh, he quit |
| 21:05.37 | scribeskul | is it relatively easy to upgrade from 2.6.18 to 2.6.2x, kernel-wise, using etch? Is it a case of just downloading a patch , or does the kernel need rebuilt? |
| 21:05.47 | Alexplay | There's nothing wrong if i remove "interface-mtu," line in dhclient.conf? because i don't want it to reset my MTU everytime i run dhclient, i removed it and all seems ok and works like i want, but will this cause any problems? |
| 21:05.48 | mooky | needs a rebuild |
| 21:06.14 | mooky | scribeskul: needs a rebuild |
| 21:06.28 | scribeskul | ok, thanks! |
| 21:06.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | scribeskul, neither - for a patch you'd need to build, but debian uses binary packages... and 2.6.2x is probably in backports |
| 21:06.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | !bpo |
| 21:06.46 | dpkg | backports.org is an unofficial repository of backports for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Read http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions ask me about <backports>. A sample line for your sources.list is: deb http://www.backports.org/debian etch-backports main contrib non-free. Once you've added that line, aptitude update && aptitude install debian-backports-keyring && aptitude update |
| 21:07.36 | scribeskul | CutMeOwnThroat I see the backport for it, is it simply a package download and done-deal from there? |
| 21:07.43 | mhymn_ | etchnhalf already has .24 |
| 21:07.43 | mhymn_ | and .26 is in bpo |
| 21:07.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | mhymn_, ah, good idea... didn't think of etch1/2 |
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| 21:08.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | scribeskul, you don't download packages yourself and install them, you let aptitude or apt-get do it for you as seen in the factoid |
| 21:08.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | scribeskul, as in aptitude install <packageyouwant> |
| 21:09.15 | scribeskul | CutMeOwnThroat I know that, using Synaptic actually, what I mean is I have linux-patch-debian-2.6.26, backports, so its just a matter of the package management installing and i am there? |
| 21:09.20 | Alexplay | There's nothing wrong if i remove "interface-mtu," line in dhclient.conf? because i don't want it to reset my MTU everytime i run dhclient because it gets configured to 1500 when the interface goes up, i removed it and all seems ok and works like i want, but will this cause any problems? |
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| 21:09.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | scribeskul, you can /msg dpkg etchnhalf the entry in sources.llist |
| 21:09.52 | tuxcrafter | hi all i am always getting the following message when starting my network: RTNETLINK answers: No such process |
| 21:09.56 | tuxcrafter | everything works fine |
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| 21:10.00 | tuxcrafter | byt why the message? |
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| 21:10.51 | scribeskul | ok, etch and a half it is then |
| 21:10.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | scribeskul, ? how did you get that? Package should be called linux-image-2.6.26* (*=arch, version etc.) |
| 21:11.16 | scribeskul | cutmeownthroat I have a backports mirror set in my sources.list |
| 21:11.39 | Alexplay | someone answer me please |
| 21:11.42 | scribeskul | the version of that specific package is 2.6.26-11~bpo40+1 |
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| 21:12.31 | scribeskul | i have the images as well, the etch1/2 ones showing up under synaptic |
| 21:12.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | scribeskul, the linux-patch-debian-2.6.26 package is not really for the end user, I'd say... actually, I'm not 100% sure what its purpose is (apt-cache show linux-patch-debian-2.6.26) |
| 21:12.51 | abrotman | Alexplay: just try it .. but i suspect your MTU will get reset when you restart the interface |
| 21:13.06 | abrotman | CutMeOwnThroat: IIRC it's the patch against vanilla sources |
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| 21:13.12 | Alexplay | no, because i created an script to set it to 1500 on boot up |
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| 21:13.56 | Alexplay | but removing interface-mtu is the only way to stop it from reconfiguring MTU if i run dhclient |
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| 21:15.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | abrotman, no, read the package description, it says it's not, but only applies to the kernel tarball linux-2.6_2.6.26.orig.tar.gz (I don't see why you would want to package that separately, but there's probably *some* reason) |
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| 21:16.12 | abrotman | CutMeOwnThroat: the uh .. orig.tar.gz is the vanilla |
| 21:16.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | scribeskul, well, do you need 2.6.26 or does and 2.6.2x do? I would think that the kernel in etchnhalf has more users than the bpo one and hence more bugs have been fixed there (but it's just a guess) |
| 21:16.19 | abrotman | supposedly |
| 21:16.22 | valdyn | CutMeOwnThroat: debian removes binary blobs |
| 21:16.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | abrotman, yes - only the package explicitely says " Note that these patches do NOT apply against a pristine Linux 2.6.26" |
| 21:16.40 | valdyn | CutMeOwnThroat: now you can use that patch to create a kernel that is like a debian kernel + binary blobs |
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| 21:16.59 | valdyn | uh |
| 21:17.06 | scribeskul | CutMeOwnThroat: Ok the etch and a half looks like a full install, I already have etch installed and situated comfortable, so if I am correct, all I would need to do is let Synaptic (apt-get, etc) install the linux-image-2.6.26-bpo.1-686 package and done, right? |
| 21:17.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | "kernel but only against the kernel tarball linux-2.6_2.6.26.orig.tar.gz" |
| 21:17.14 | Alexplay | How can i remove the annoying msgs in Pidgin when someone disconnects or connects? it spams my window |
| 21:17.30 | giacomo_c | it's under plugins |
| 21:17.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | scribeskul, yes... and cross your fingers before rebooting, of course, as usual |
| 21:17.50 | scribeskul | CutMeOwnThroat of course haha |
| 21:17.52 | giacomo_c | i dont remember what it's called but its probably the best thing to have in pidgin Alexplay |
| 21:17.53 | scribeskul | well see you on the other side...of the reboot |
| 21:18.07 | abrotman | CutMeOwnThroat: okay then ... |
| 21:18.09 | plb_ | Any you guys want a good laugh? Check out Ubuntus latest ad campaign...https://usshop.ubuntu.com/training.php?catid=5 snapshot since it's being dugg http://omploader.org/vMTBkeA |
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| 21:18.14 | Alexplay | why giacomo_c? |
| 21:18.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | valdyn, what are "binary blobs", btw? |
| 21:18.37 | valdyn | CutMeOwnThroat: anything binary that you dont have source code for |
| 21:18.51 | valdyn | CutMeOwnThroat: in the kernel its firmware |
| 21:19.15 | giacomo_c | Alexplay: cause it gets rid of the log on/log off messages in irc and jabber and any chatrooms |
| 21:19.24 | Alexplay | ah |
| 21:19.27 | Alexplay | well i found it |
| 21:19.32 | giacomo_c | cool |
| 21:19.56 | valdyn | CutMeOwnThroat: strictly speaking we dont know if its actually code to be run or not, so its just a binary blob |
| 21:19.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | I see... don't see why a separate patch-package helps that, but ok :) |
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| 21:21.33 | romano2k | hi everyone! |
| 21:21.38 | romano2k | i'm having trouble updating my debian |
| 21:22.00 | abrotman | updating to ___ from ___ ? |
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| 21:22.01 | fantomas_ | hi all |
| 21:22.04 | romano2k | here is the result of a df -h : http://paste.debian.net/23417/ and the result of a aptitude safe-upgrade : http://paste.debian.net/23418/ |
| 21:22.10 | fantomas_ | question to USA residents |
| 21:22.14 | fantomas_ | offtopic, sorry |
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| 21:22.19 | romano2k | abrotman: a simple safe-upgrade from the same branch |
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| 21:22.24 | fantomas_ | How much fuel costs in USA atm? |
| 21:22.35 | HawkeV_ | hey guys, do any sarge mirrors exist anywhere these days? |
| 21:22.35 | Alexplay | When i run Nautilus as root it won't let me see/remove protected folders/files, this happened after i updated from sid, any solutions? |
| 21:22.38 | valdyn | fantomas_: fgi |
| 21:22.41 | plb_ | fantomas here in nyc it's around $4 something |
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| 21:22.47 | Hydroxide | fantomas_: ask in #debian-offtopic or #debian-chat, or just google for the answer |
| 21:22.52 | Hydroxide | plb_: it's a lot cheaper than that now |
| 21:23.10 | plb_ | ah..I don't drive so I don't keep up on the prices |
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| 21:23.25 | deepfriedsquirre | Hello |
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| 21:23.37 | fantomas_ | Hydroxide: t.y. for advice. Something tells me that typing 2 digits would be easier |
| 21:23.37 | FILLVAIO2 | Hi again |
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| 21:23.42 | Alexplay | i mean after i updated from lenny to sid |
| 21:23.44 | deepfriedsquirre | Which sounds saner: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive/Howto/Custom_Install or http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive/Howto/Persistence ? |
| 21:23.47 | newsense | 1.90 |
| 21:24.01 | abrotman | romano2k: your / is basically full |
| 21:24.06 | FILLVAIO2 | Does anybody using suPHP module for Apache2 under Debian? |
| 21:24.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | I think they might have just split it into linux-source and linux-patch-debian... so the source package doesn't have the patches anymore |
| 21:24.22 | Hydroxide | fantomas_: indeed. as a chanop I had more motivation to type the extra characters and help keep the channel mostly on-topic |
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| 21:24.53 | deepfriedsquirre | Will persistent and toram at the same time work on live-initramfs? |
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| 21:25.02 | romano2k | abrotman: i had guessed but i wasn't sure :/ |
| 21:25.09 | romano2k | abrotman: what should i do then? |
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| 21:25.23 | Alexplay | When i run nautilus as root it won't let me see/remove protected folders/files, this happened after i updated from lenny to sid, any solutions? |
| 21:25.45 | jpinx | Alexplay: the joys of sid;) |
| 21:25.56 | simonrvn | don't use nautilus as root, and use sudo rm instead. |
| 21:26.05 | HawkeV_ | aha, archive.debian.org... win |
| 21:26.45 | fantomas_ | Hydroxide: you defintely will earn a medal from Debian god :) |
| 21:26.45 | Alexplay | but when i mount a windows partition it's annoying |
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| 21:26.55 | abrotman | romano2k: clean up some junk |
| 21:27.09 | Hydroxide | fantomas_: hehe :) |
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| 21:27.47 | romano2k | abrotman: what may i safely delete from / ? |
| 21:27.47 | jpinx | romano2k: aptitude clean will give you some space to sort yourself out |
| 21:27.47 | romano2k | jpinx: already did that |
| 21:27.47 | romano2k | but my / is very small, i have multiple partitions |
| 21:27.48 | Alexplay | oh and another thing is that im not in sudoers file, i tried adding myself to the file with visudo and it still doesn't work. |
| 21:27.48 | jpinx | !tell Alexplay about sid |
| 21:27.48 | abrotman | romano2k: an old kernel/unused maybe |
| 21:27.48 | deepfriedsquirre | Which sounds saner: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive/Howto/Custom_Install or http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive/Howto/Persistence ? |
| 21:27.49 | valdyn | Alexplay: so you didnt read the manpage properly? |
| 21:28.12 | Alexplay | i read my username should be first letter capital |
| 21:28.12 | romano2k | abrotman: i'll have a look, thank you |
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| 21:28.37 | Alexplay | and it is not |
| 21:28.38 | valdyn | !doesn't work |
| 21:28.38 | dpkg | Look buddy, "doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message". |
| 21:28.38 | valdyn | Alexplay: thats not in the manpage |
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| 21:28.38 | Alexplay | i know |
| 21:29.01 | jpinx | Alexplay: if you can;t manage visudo maybe you should reconsider runing sid |
| 21:29.14 | deepfriedsquirre | lol, that's a friendly bot |
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| 21:29.16 | jpinx | things will only get worse ;) |
| 21:29.18 | binrapt | What's the best way of changing the timezone for all users? |
| 21:29.33 | valdyn | !timezone |
| 21:29.33 | dpkg | well, timezone is "cp -b /usr/share/zoneinfo/<timezone> /etc/localtime", or dpkg-reconfigure tzdata, or or tzselect after etch |
| 21:29.33 | scribeskul | haha almost! I need to reinstall the nvidia modules to get X running |
| 21:29.34 | binrapt | My Dutch server appears to be set to PST for some reason, it's in .nl though |
| 21:29.44 | Alexplay | yyeah i was reconsidering it, i have a coupe of broken packages already =/ |
| 21:29.51 | binrapt | Thanks |
| 21:29.51 | scribeskul | Other than that I'm running the newest kernel now |
| 21:29.58 | binrapt | I already fixed /etc/localtime, didn't change anything though |
| 21:30.08 | binrapt | export TZ helped but that's not global yet is it? |
| 21:30.33 | valdyn | binrapt: you are on etch? |
| 21:30.45 | scribeskul | Someone out there wouldn't happen to have the correect package name for the 2.6.26 kernel source, would they? |
| 21:30.51 | binrapt | I don't know the code names, it's the stable release I think |
| 21:30.55 | valdyn | scribeskul: search for it |
| 21:31.09 | valdyn | binrapt: dpkg-reconfigure tzdata |
| 21:31.10 | scribeskul | I did through aptitude but couldn't locate it for some reason |
| 21:31.27 | valdyn | scribeskul: why not? |
| 21:31.33 | binrapt | Is etch stable or unstable/testing? |
| 21:31.46 | binrapt | Nice, it worked, thanks |
| 21:31.51 | scribeskul | valdyn: It didn't show up. '/' = search results = 'nothing' |
| 21:32.08 | valdyn | !tell scribeskul -about search |
| 21:32.12 | scribeskul | i'll try again |
| 21:32.13 | valdyn | binrapt: stable |
| 21:32.14 | binrapt | Ok |
| 21:32.29 | scribeskul | thank you |
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| 21:33.40 | scribeskul | wow, i feel stupid linux-source-2.6.26 |
| 21:33.46 | scribeskul | anyways, thanks valdyn |
| 21:33.49 | simonrvn | you want linux-source, for starterD[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[Ds |
| 21:33.59 | simonrvn | pardon the laggy client... |
| 21:34.07 | Alexplay | how do i exit man in the terminal? |
| 21:34.21 | jpinx | Alexplay: q |
| 21:34.26 | Alexplay | thanks |
| 21:34.33 | romano2k | abrotman: i deleted my old kernels and i now have 32 MB free |
| 21:34.37 | romano2k | but it's not enough :/ |
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| 21:35.12 | abrotman | romano2k: maybe it's time to remove some unused apps ? |
| 21:35.30 | romano2k | i'm afraid i have only apps that i'm using |
| 21:35.37 | romano2k | at least i installed only what i'm using |
| 21:35.48 | lfaraone | Hi, is it possible to disable ssh forwarding for spesific users? |
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| 21:36.29 | romano2k | can you remind me of the command which lists directories displaying their size in MB? |
| 21:36.36 | Octalot | linux-source-2.6.26 |
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| 21:36.37 | Octalot | sorry, answering old talk :( |
| 21:36.43 | Octalot | du (possibly with the -s option) |
| 21:37.10 | jpinx | romano2k: du --max-depth=1 |
| 21:37.27 | romano2k | jpinx and Octalot, thank you :) |
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| 21:38.43 | abrotman | romano2k: i'm sure there's something you can get rid of |
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| 21:39.11 | romano2k | abrotman: my god there are 17M in /etc o_O |
| 21:39.18 | romano2k | (which is on /) |
| 21:39.31 | abrotman | did you put something bad in there? |
| 21:39.35 | romano2k | and 164M in /lib |
| 21:39.37 | romano2k | i guess not |
| 21:39.49 | romano2k | trying to find out with du |
| 21:40.00 | abrotman | romano2k: dpkg -l linux-image* .. how many kernels are 'ii' ? |
| 21:40.28 | Octalot | piping du's output to "sort -n" can be helpful :) |
| 21:40.48 | romano2k | thank you Octalot, i'll try |
| 21:40.53 | romano2k | abrotman: that's the point, there are 4 |
| 21:41.03 | romano2k | abrotman: may i remove all the old ones? |
| 21:42.12 | abrotman | romano2k: put it in a pastebin |
| 21:42.14 | abrotman | romano2k: wait |
| 21:42.24 | abrotman | romano2k: COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l linux-image* |
| 21:42.26 | abrotman | paste that |
| 21:42.55 | jpinx | trouble with du on my old system is it makes the hdd unuseable while it's running :( |
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| 21:43.37 | romano2k | abrotman: http://paste.debian.net/23421/ |
| 21:43.42 | abrotman | romano2k: uname -a .. what does it say |
| 21:43.46 | romano2k | jpinx: it's my own personnal gateway, there's nothing running appart from what I run :) |
| 21:43.52 | jpinx | cool |
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| 21:43.57 | romano2k | abrotman: "Linux shep 2.6.26-1-686 #1 SMP Thu Aug 28 12:00:54 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux" |
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| 21:44.22 | abrotman | romano2k: dpkg -P linux-image-2.6.24-1-686 linux-image-2.6.25-2-686 .. those seem unused |
| 21:44.22 | romano2k | jpinx: couldn't you use "nice" ? |
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| 21:45.48 | Error4o4 | does SFTP use rsync to transfer file or am i mixing things up? |
| 21:45.48 | jpinx | romano2k: yes, I could nice it, but I just want it to run faster ;) |
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| 21:45.59 | romano2k | jpinx: buy a Core i7 :D |
| 21:46.05 | jpinx | Error4o4: it uses ssh |
| 21:46.18 | romano2k | abrotman: you're my god : "/dev/hda1 259M 111M 135M 46% /" |
| 21:46.22 | lfaraone | How do I instruct SILO to boot in single-user-mode? |
| 21:46.28 | romano2k | while we're at it, anything else i could remove? |
| 21:46.41 | abrotman | romano2k: can i have a beer now? |
| 21:46.47 | Error4o4 | jpinx: i thought so first, any idea what S20rsync is doing in /etc/rc2.d/ ? |
| 21:47.00 | romano2k | is it annoying to tell me what's useless if i pastebin a dpkg -l ? (tell me honestly) |
| 21:47.01 | abrotman | romano2k: your / is pretty small .. you'll have to be picky with what oyu install |
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| 21:47.05 | romano2k | abrotman: a pack of 6 ! |
| 21:47.09 | jpinx | Error4o4: not a clue ;) |
| 21:47.10 | HawkeV_ | hey guys, is there any way to dump the package versions that are installed? |
| 21:47.17 | HawkeV_ | trying to clean up after a failed etch upgrade... |
| 21:47.19 | abrotman | romano2k: deborphan might help you a bit .. but not much |
| 21:47.38 | abrotman | HawkeV_: dpkg -l |
| 21:47.38 | HawkeV_ | ta |
| 21:47.38 | Error4o4 | jpinx: really or kidding :D |
| 21:48.40 | jpinx | really |
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| 21:48.40 | jpinx | wtf is S20rsync ? |
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| 21:48.54 | romano2k | abrotman: isn't "aptitude" filling the role of deborphan? |
| 21:48.54 | scribeskul | Ok, so does wnyone know where exactly it unpacks source files to, or at the very least a way I can figure it out. |
| 21:48.54 | abrotman | romano2k: hopefully .. just something else to check |
| 21:49.54 | abrotman | jpinx: a link to an init script |
| 21:50.45 | Error4o4 | jpinx: it says its a program to remotely copy files. |
| 21:50.45 | jpinx | O o |
| 21:50.45 | romano2k | abrotman: http://paste.debian.net/23424/ may i remove all this? especially gcc |
| 21:50.46 | HawkeV_ | oh...dear |
| 21:50.46 | Error4o4 | jpinx: wondering if I need it at all |
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| 21:50.46 | abrotman | romano2k: if it says you can .. you can .. if deborphan lists it, it means nothing *depends* on that library .. something may recommend it though |
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| 21:50.46 | jpinx | Error4o4:it's not something I have ever used. |
| 21:50.54 | romano2k | abrotman: all right |
| 21:51.16 | romano2k | abrotman: then should i use dpkg -P or aptitude remove --purge ? |
| 21:51.19 | abrotman | romano2k: and those probably don't take much space |
| 21:51.24 | HawkeV_ | so...uh...having removed libc6, obviously, everything has just broken pretty majorly - has anyone ever been in this position and succesffully recovered? |
| 21:51.28 | Error4o4 | jpinx: i se its in all multiuser runlevels per default |
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| 21:51.35 | abrotman | romano2k: you probably won't get more than a few MB from those |
| 21:51.37 | jpinx | abrotman - if he deletes according to deborphan and something doesn't quite work afterwards, Aptitude would sort it out - no? |
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| 21:51.41 | FredZ | when using mv how do I move all files and folders under /this/folder to /that/folder but not include the original folder name. Currently when I move the folder I am ending up with /that/folder/folder |
| 21:51.43 | dacs | i deleted /lib/modules/2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686/kernel/drivers/media/video/v4l2_compat.ko when i reboot it is asking me for root password for maintenance? |
| 21:52.03 | lfaraone | dacs: why did you delete that? |
| 21:52.10 | abrotman | jpinx: aptitude might be unhappy because a recommended package has been removed |
| 21:52.10 | romano2k | abrotman: there useless and poluting my dpkg -l, in which i'm kinda lost, so why should i keep them? |
| 21:52.47 | dacs | lfaraone: because it is conflicting with my v4l |
| 21:52.47 | scribeskul | Would anyone happen to know where exactly apt installs kernel sources to? I recently installed kernel-source-2.6.26, which I need for an install script, but cannot find it anywhere on my system...just the bz2 |
| 21:52.47 | jpinx | but if he re-installs the pkg, aptitude would re-install the depended-on pkg? |
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| 21:53.47 | lfaraone | dacs: ok, then readd the file. |
| 21:53.48 | lfaraone | dacs: or enter the root password for maintinence :) |
| 21:53.58 | lfaraone | scribeskul: try unzipping the bz2 |
| 21:55.15 | jpinx | FredZ: trailing slashes might be catching you out |
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| 21:56.13 | FredZ | OK, just tested that, I needed to put the /* at the end of the original path |
| 21:56.28 | jpinx | FredZ: ;) |
| 21:57.27 | HawkeV_ | is there any way to run apt-get from a host OS and install into a chroot directory of sorts? |
| 21:57.36 | HawkeV_ | or indeed, dpkg |
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| 21:58.07 | HawkeV_ | ahah, --root, sweet |
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| 21:58.47 | jpinx | HawkeV_: debootstrap maybe? |
| 21:58.49 | HawkeV_ | i'm trying not to overwrite too much |
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| 21:59.14 | HawkeV_ | someone installed a libc6 and a few other things from etch, which hosed it pretty well |
| 21:59.39 | HawkeV_ | and i just made the mistake of dpkg --force-all -r libc6 while trying to downgrade \o/ |
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| 22:00.14 | Guerin | HawkeV_: epic fail |
| 22:00.18 | HawkeV_ | agreed |
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| 22:00.41 | HawkeV_ | i figure, if i netboot a rescue os, and then dpkg --root=/brokendebian/ libc6-correct-version, then everything should be good |
| 22:00.51 | HawkeV_ | any sanity check comments on that before i do it?/ |
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| 22:01.45 | simonrvn | HawkeV_: are you out of your fucking mind?! (you asked for comments :P) |
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| 22:01.52 | Guerin | !bless HawkeV_ |
| 22:01.53 | dpkg | O $DEITY, we beseech you to bless your child HawkeV_, who is about to do something stupid and needs all the help you can give. Amen. |
| 22:02.01 | thechef | Is it possible to make nfs and/or smb/samba as responsive as sshfs in case the remote computer is connected via the internet? |
| 22:02.03 | HawkeV_ | braces |
| 22:02.11 | HawkeV_ | just gotta find/build a suitable rescue environment first |
| 22:02.24 | scribeskul | CutMeOwnThroat: Can I annoy you for a second? |
| 22:02.24 | HawkeV_ | since the installer is about as useful as my mother |
| 22:02.27 | simonrvn | live-cd perhaps |
| 22:02.35 | HawkeV_ | i can netboot a live-cd? |
| 22:02.54 | simonrvn | oh, netboot? why? no cd drive? |
| 22:03.00 | HawkeV_ | it has a cd drive |
| 22:03.05 | HawkeV_ | my arms aren't 10 miles long though |
| 22:03.16 | HawkeV_ | i'd rather not drag my ass to the datacenter if i can help it |
| 22:03.22 | simonrvn | hehe, now i see why netbooting ;) |
| 22:03.22 | peterrooney | Guerin: I didn't know $DEITY had an assigned value :) |
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| 22:03.42 | HawkeV_ | yeah... it's gonna be a long night |
| 22:03.44 | Guerin | peterrooney: usually set to null, in my experience |
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| 22:04.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | scribeskul, you already did! |
| 22:04.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | ;) |
| 22:04.17 | simonrvn | for me it's usually set to infinity |
| 22:04.44 | simonrvn | though i don't get that "amen" stuff... |
| 22:04.49 | simNIX | HawkeV_, I pxe netboot Debian setups with files on http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/d-i/images/daily/netboot/ |
| 22:05.15 | peterrooney | simonrvn: either way, HawkeV_ needs some good luck - remote reboots always make me nervous. |
| 22:05.16 | scribeskul | CutMeOwnThroat: :) tar -xvf kernel-sources-etc.. what letter am i missing in the 'tar -xvf' part? |
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| 22:05.31 | valdyn | scribeskul: the z |
| 22:05.44 | HawkeV_ | thanks simNIX and peterrooney |
| 22:05.44 | scribeskul | thank you |
| 22:05.44 | valdyn | scribeskul: or maybe the j |
| 22:06.01 | HawkeV_ | i have a pack of smokes, a bunch of diet coke, decent music... just need to keep my sanity |
| 22:06.16 | scribeskul | crap, my bad...i wasn't root |
| 22:06.53 | scribeskul | i was wondering why it wouldn't untar with just -xvf...wasn't root |
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| 22:07.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | scribeskul, is that a quizz? :) oh, valdyn was faster... z for .gz files or j for .bz2 ones - but f hast to be last as the file is argument tof |
| 22:07.20 | scribeskul | I must have taken a stupid pill today |
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| 22:08.04 | romano2k | is there a simple way to know how much MB are the installed applications (using dpkg -l or aptitude) |
| 22:08.41 | Dug_ur_a_MA | goin through the motions thinkin bout the ocean think my girlfriend needs an abortion |
| 22:09.32 | HawkeV_ | http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive/Howto/Creating_a_Netboot_Image |
| 22:09.33 | Guerin | Dug_ur_a_MA: FOADIAF |
| 22:09.39 | HawkeV_ | whoever wrote that, i love you, a lot. |
| 22:10.03 | petemc | romano2k: dpkg-query -W -f='${Installed-Size;10}\t${Package}\n' | sort -k1,1n |
| 22:10.21 | romano2k | petemc: i'll try thank you! |
| 22:12.04 | dan2 | is there anyway to calculate power usage from your computer? |
| 22:12.07 | abrotman | powertop ? |
| 22:12.17 | dan2 | abrotman: I'll look at that |
| 22:12.19 | dan2 | thanks |
| 22:12.27 | abrotman | i'm sure there's something on google (lesswatts.org perhaps) |
| 22:12.32 | valdyn | uh |
| 22:12.58 | romano2k | abrotman: freeid 119MB removing VLC! :p |
| 22:13.14 | abrotman | from / ? |
| 22:13.27 | abrotman | valdyn: maybe i didn't get the question :) |
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| 22:13.37 | romano2k | using aptitude, there were at least a lot of libs :) |
| 22:13.42 | jpinx | romano2k: vlc on my system s only 42.5MBs |
| 22:14.00 | romano2k | jpinx: including all dependencies? |
| 22:14.20 | jpinx | including exclusive dependencies |
| 22:14.55 | jpinx | that's what it installed as on lenny |
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| 22:14.59 | dan2 | hmm |
| 22:15.06 | dan2 | abrotman: can't seem to give me a power estimate unfortunately |
| 22:15.12 | romano2k | jpinx: i'm on a server so i guess you have a few dependancies that are used by other softwares if you're on a graphical environment ? |
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| 22:15.22 | romano2k | (that i didn't) |
| 22:15.24 | HawkeV_ | dan2, do you have all the acpi dependancies running? |
| 22:15.28 | abrotman | dan2: poke google a bit |
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| 22:15.34 | dan2 | HawkeV_: probably not |
| 22:15.41 | Alexplay | anyone knows how to disable right mouse button click to act as left click? it's annoying when i open a menu |
| 22:15.44 | HawkeV_ | yeah, it's designed primarily for laptops |
| 22:15.47 | jpinx | romano2k: yea - I'm on a lappy |
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| 22:16.27 | jpinx | Alexplay: stickytape? |
| 22:16.33 | Alexplay | must be that |
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| 22:16.47 | romano2k | do i need x* things on my server? |
| 22:16.53 | Dug_ur_a_MA | clippy says - dont forget the crayons |
| 22:16.58 | Alexplay | how do i disable it? |
| 22:17.03 | jpinx | romano2k: I have a server with no x stuff |
| 22:17.05 | Guerin | romano2k: depends. Usually not, but for some things you might need x libs. |
| 22:17.29 | Guerin | romano2k: if you have, say, imagemagick for a web-image server you'll need some, for instance. |
| 22:17.38 | jpinx | use aptitude to purge and it should leave shared dependencies |
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| 22:18.31 | Alexplay | Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "stickytape" |
| 22:18.51 | romano2k | do i really need selinux-policy-refpolicy-targeted? it looks heavy according to petemc's command (see above) |
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| 22:19.15 | romano2k | Guerin: good point, i'm using imagemagick, at least i believe i do :) |
| 22:19.35 | jpinx | Alexplay: \o/ |
| 22:19.41 | jpinx | that was a joke |
| 22:19.44 | Alexplay | lol |
| 22:20.05 | Alexplay | nah for real man, it's annoying |
| 22:20.22 | whochismo | Hello, I'm using proftpd server, but when i access the ftp from mozilla firefox, the special characters are not displayed correctly, because it doesn't recognise that they are in UTF-8 format |
| 22:20.36 | jpinx | Alexplay: it's a desktop/gnome/KDE issue I reckon |
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| 22:21.00 | Dug_ur_a_MA | mikey likes it hey mikey |
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| 22:21.04 | Alexplay | =/ |
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| 22:21.20 | jpinx | Alexplay: what desktop are you using? |
| 22:21.23 | Alexplay | gnome |
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| 22:21.40 | whochismo | does anybody know how to configure proftpd to use Unicode caracters properly? |
| 22:21.56 | jpinx | Alexplay: hae a rummage though the menus for system/administration/etc |
| 22:22.34 | jpinx | that wasn't a typo - I'm talking with a scots accent :p |
| 22:22.44 | Alexplay | lol |
| 22:22.45 | Alexplay | well |
| 22:22.48 | Alexplay | tehre's nothing there |
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| 22:23.30 | jpinx | Alexplay: I dinnae use gnome on my old lappy -- it's too bloated :9 |
| 22:23.30 | HawkeV_ | Alexplay, do like osx, just deny all knowledge of there being such a thing as a right mouse button |
| 22:23.57 | Alexplay | i don't like mac |
| 22:23.58 | Alexplay | lol |
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| 22:24.06 | jpinx | !mac |
| 22:24.07 | dpkg | Apple Macintoshes are prime candidates for Debian installs, at least the m68k-based ones. or acceptable in many powerpc forms... Ask Peidran about that... or Most Applications Crash; If Not, The Operating System Hangs, or the hardware address of a network card, or the name of Apple computers. MAC, Media Access Control (ask me about <mac change>). |
| 22:24.09 | Alexplay | and i like more gnome more than KDE |
| 22:24.15 | Alexplay | KDe i's too bloated |
| 22:24.18 | Alexplay | it's* |
| 22:24.20 | Dug_ur_a_MA | seem like you people would love long strings and easy guis |
| 22:24.25 | jpinx | Alexplay: try lxde |
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| 22:24.35 | Alexplay | nah i like gnome apps |
| 22:24.43 | Alexplay | talking about gnome |
| 22:24.46 | jpinx | Alexplay: it uses gnome apps too |
| 22:25.27 | Alexplay | how do i update gnome to the latest? not from source or it will take ages, is there something like a .deb ? |
| 22:25.48 | Dug_ur_a_MA | i have all three oses but im not very productive |
| 22:25.49 | romano2k | if anyone has time to kill and is very kind, he can tell me from this pastebin http://paste.debian.net/23427/ what i don't need, according to what i installed myself in the same pastebin |
| 22:25.51 | jpinx | Alexplay: let me explain - I had gnome but it was too slow on my old hardware, so I installed lxde and I can still run gnome stuff if I want - 'cos I didn't actually delete gnome |
| 22:26.08 | Alexplay | but i like the current gnome o.O |
| 22:26.13 | H2S04 | Alexplay, you generally can't have bleeding edge without building it yourself. |
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| 22:26.25 | jpinx | Alexplay: you'll like lxde more |
| 22:26.33 | jpinx | starts a desktop war |
| 22:26.33 | Alexplay | lemme look some SSs of it |
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| 22:26.54 | H2S04 | xmonad > lxde |
| 22:27.23 | Alexplay | dude it looks kinda like Windos |
| 22:27.26 | Alexplay | windows |
| 22:27.28 | Dug_ur_a_MA | how about some enlightenment |
| 22:27.48 | jpinx | Alexplay: you can tailor it :) |
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| 22:28.14 | H2S04 | I'll support the use of Enlightenment. |
| 22:28.14 | Alexplay | i see |
| 22:28.37 | Aggro | What is the difference between xfce and lxde? |
| 22:28.38 | jpinx | Alexplay: to be honest I never see my desktop -- always too much stuff open |
| 22:28.51 | jpinx | Aggro: lxde is mugh lighter |
| 22:28.54 | jpinx | *much |
| 22:28.57 | Alexplay | oh btw, about Java, can i live just with a custom installation of it in /opt? and remove everything like gcj, etc, etc, i did it and i don't see any problems, is that ok? |
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| 22:29.46 | jpinx | installation xfce4 = 110MBs .... lxde = 36.6MBs |
| 22:30.14 | valdyn | Alexplay: whats the point of not using debian packages? |
| 22:30.21 | valdyn | Alexplay: debian has java, sun's java |
| 22:30.28 | Alexplay | yeah but the outdated one |
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| 22:30.32 | Alexplay | 1.5.0 |
| 22:30.33 | jpinx | Aggro: trade-off between space and facilities |
| 22:30.39 | valdyn | !java-package |
| 22:30.40 | dpkg | java-package is probably a package in contrib that builds a .deb from a manually downloaded Java distribution (JRE or JDK). http://www.debian-administration.org/?article=142 details how to install Sun's JRE or JDK. To install: apt-get install java-package; get a JRE or JDK from http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp (the Linux (self-extracting file) NOT the RPM) ; fakeroot make-jpkg jre-*-linux-i586.bin; dpkg -i *.deb; |
| 22:31.02 | Alexplay | i can't build it, because it says some shit about plugin not found |
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| 22:31.28 | Guerin | Alexplay: complain to Sun |
| 22:31.49 | Alexplay | nah i prefer to keep it clean and just do a manual install in /opt and create symbolic links to Firefox |
| 22:31.52 | jpinx | Alexplay: there are other options for flash that are opensource |
| 22:32.10 | Alexplay | but the GUi gets messed for example in youtube =/ |
| 22:32.16 | eptalon | Is there a filesystem module that can provide secure encryption of data? |
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| 22:32.37 | Guerin | eptalon: google `encrypted filesystem' |
| 22:33.36 | jpinx | uses iceweasel's video download plugin to save youtube videos and plays them in vlc |
| 22:33.41 | HawkeV_ | INIT: cannot execute "/sbin/shutdown" |
| 22:33.43 | HawkeV_ | i love that. |
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| 22:33.57 | Alexplay | but i like more stream ;) |
| 22:34.22 | jpinx | Alexplay: I don't have the connection speed for streaming ;) |
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| 22:34.28 | HawkeV_ | i also love how with an hp, to reboot the thing via iLO, you have to look in 'virtual devices' for 'virtual power' |
| 22:34.35 | Alexplay | how fast is your connection? |
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| 22:35.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | Alexplay, I don't see a problem with that - but you could use checkinstall to make a package (or possibly start from the debian package and just replace the... source tree (?) with the newer version, that way you stay with the packaging system and can automatically replace the package whenever a debian package will have a newer version than your current install) |
| 22:35.12 | jpinx | Alexplay: s l o o o w |
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| 22:35.39 | jpinx | almost as slow as my old dialup was in NZ |
| 22:35.58 | Alexplay | CutMeOwnThroat: im afraid i don't have the enough experience with that |
| 22:36.10 | Alexplay | jpinx: what speed? 56kbps ? |
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| 22:36.46 | jpinx | it's a south american adsl - anything from 56kbps down to 5.6kbps |
| 22:36.52 | jpinx | ;) |
| 22:36.56 | Alexplay | oh lol |
| 22:37.01 | Alexplay | where are you from? im from SA too |
| 22:37.04 | bartleby | hi, anyone here using lm-sensors with any success? |
| 22:37.04 | eptalon | Guerin: Which do you recommend? |
| 22:37.15 | jpinx | I'm in Peru at the moment |
| 22:37.18 | eptalon | I have a low-end system (Pentium D) |
| 22:37.29 | Alexplay | Me from Venezuela |
| 22:37.35 | pickcoder | bartleby: if no one was it wouldn't be bundled |
| 22:37.39 | Guerin | eptalon: i recommend research. |
| 22:37.45 | pickcoder | what's the problem with your setup? |
| 22:37.46 | eptalon | Ok. |
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| 22:38.00 | jpinx | Alexplay: cool - #debian-offtopic |
| 22:38.01 | bartleby | pickcoder, i dont understand your reply |
| 22:38.07 | Alexplay | jpinx: ok |
| 22:38.41 | HawkeV_ | holy crap, this appears to be... dare i say it... working |
| 22:38.44 | pickcoder | bartleby: of course someone is using lm-sensors successfully. if it didn't work no one would be use it and it wouldn't be in the debian repos |
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| 22:38.54 | pickcoder | s/use/using |
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| 22:40.18 | korney | i set up a backup server which backs up several other servers via ssh/rsync. it ssh in as some user, let's say rsync. What kind of permits do I give user rsync, so it can read everything on the system? |
| 22:41.06 | Error4o4 | i have a bash script that shows memory consumption on a vps (reads /proc/user_beancounters) but it works only if executed as root. I tried setting the SUID bit for the executable but it doesnt work, works only with sudo.. any idea why SUID fails ? (wont leave the SUID, just testing) |
| 22:41.28 | bartleby | thanks pickcoder. but i asked if someone here was successfully using it, not someone in general, because im having problems with mine and need assistance |
| 22:41.39 | valdyn | Error4o4: you cant suid shell scripts |
| 22:42.02 | Error4o4 | valdyn: ok thx |
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| 22:42.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | Alexplay, no experience needed for checkinstall (in the case it works) - I didn't use stow, but I think it's also rather simple... and as for starting from the source package... normally it's also not difficult to substitute with a slightl newer version (will vary from case to case)... and ... don't we all learn as we go along? :) |
| 22:42.28 | pickcoder | bartleby: and I just asked "what's the problem with your setup" |
| 22:42.43 | pickcoder | I.E. state your chipsets and what's wrong |
| 22:42.47 | Draggin | Good evening. This is probably not the right place to ask, but perhaps you guys can direct me... I have some questions about Enlightenment and where to start if I'm new to it... |
| 22:43.05 | Alexplay | CutMeOwnThroat: yup you're right, but from where should i begin? tell me some basic steps |
| 22:43.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | pickcoder, stopped (? did it ever work?) working for me on my laptop when going to 2.6.26 kernel - although it's an ICH6 chipset which should be supported according to the wiki |
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| 22:44.50 | bartleby | sorry pickcoder i didnt realize that question was directed at me. when i run sensors i do get some readings but i cant make sense of them. the problem im having is that my computer suddenly reboots under heavy load so i wanted view the voltage and temp sensors. i cant tell whats what from the "sensors" output though. |
| 22:45.44 | adb | romano2k: you may remove doc-debian doc-debian-fr doc-linux-fr-text doc-linux-text debian-faq manpages* samba* vlc* , and install localepurge |
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| 22:46.38 | pickcoder | bartleby: pastebin a sensors output |
| 22:46.39 | romano2k | adb: thank you for your time! i'm using samba and i may use manpages, shouldn't i? |
| 22:46.44 | pickcoder | s/a/the |
| 22:47.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | Alexplay, it might be different for java, if that's not really all built from source, but generally apt-get source <packagename> (if you give -b it will automatically compile), then enter, change what you need, add a line to debian/changelog if it's a newer version and use dpkg-buildpackage to make the actual package, it will automatically apply the debian patches (which might not work on a newer version, but often work with minor m |
| 22:47.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | odifications) and leave you with a .deb in the parent directory |
| 22:47.29 | adb | romano2k: keep that you use |
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| 22:47.48 | romano2k | i mean, aren't we supposed to use manpages often? :) |
| 22:48.07 | bartleby | http://pastebin.com/d2e359922 |
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| 22:48.12 | Alexplay | alright CutMeOwnThroat |
| 22:48.47 | adb | romano2k: no, use google for |
| 22:49.04 | romano2k | adb: that's a solution |
| 22:49.56 | adb | a server needs space not docs !;_ |
| 22:50.17 | bartleby | in0, fan2 and temp3 are the only ones i see change but i have more than one fan and don't know what temp sensor temp3 is |
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| 22:52.39 | iShock | bartleby?! |
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| 22:52.56 | m_dige | Anyone in here running Debian amd64 ? |
| 22:52.57 | bartleby | iShock!! |
| 22:53.07 | m_dige | have troubles running 32 bit apss |
| 22:53.13 | m_dige | apps |
| 22:53.18 | m_dige | such as firefox |
| 22:53.20 | Guerin | plays the chariots of fire theme for iShock and bartleby |
| 22:53.24 | iShock | has u ever played bzflag bartleby? |
| 22:53.28 | iShock | Rofl Guerin. Hi :P |
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| 22:53.38 | bartleby | never heard of bzflag |
| 22:53.56 | ``y7 | i have an older mobo that doesn't come with usb slots and i installed a usb card with a usb mobo, but when it boots up, it tells me that it cannot boot because it doesn't detect the keyboard, is there anyway to get around this problem? |
| 22:53.57 | m_dige | bzflag is the king of tank games |
| 22:54.48 | bartleby | ever play lm-sensors? |
| 22:55.20 | m_dige | bartleby: is that for monitoring heat etc. |
| 22:55.23 | bartleby | yes |
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| 22:56.58 | pickcoder | bartleby: it looks like temp3 is the only valid sensor |
| 22:57.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | bartleby, I heard it's hard to win... |
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| 22:57.21 | scribeskul | Well, I think it may be time to take that leap to 'Lenny' |
| 22:57.37 | pickcoder | bartleby: you should do some motherboard research and determine which chips are used for thermal and fan control |
| 22:57.39 | bartleby | pickcoder, where would i look to find out if its a motherboard temp sensor or the cpu sensor? |
| 22:57.43 | bartleby | ah |
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| 22:58.00 | pickcoder | is it an OEM system or custom? |
| 22:58.06 | bartleby | any idea what in0 is? its custom |
| 22:58.06 | LoveGuru | Hi, Is there Any tutorial for Newbies to install LAMP in debian etch? |
| 22:58.37 | bartleby | im guessing in0 is because it sits around 1.2 at idea and 1.3 under load |
| 22:58.44 | adb | romano2k: here an example for a slim desktop > http://paste.debian.net/23429/ |
| 22:58.45 | bartleby | is cpu voltage * |
| 22:59.00 | romano2k | thank you so much adb |
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| 22:59.18 | adb | welcome , de rien |
| 22:59.26 | romano2k | hehe :) |
| 22:59.48 | pickcoder | bartleby: if the wrong driver is loaded or it's using an old driver for a newer chip then the output can be wrong altogether |
| 22:59.52 | LoveGuru | awsome :) |
| 22:59.59 | pickcoder | bartleby: which kernel are you on? |
| 23:00.01 | LoveGuru | seen ya after long time :) |
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| 23:00.22 | bartleby | 2.2.26-1-686 |
| 23:00.48 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:00.57 | nullboy | ancient! |
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| 23:01.27 | pickcoder | you mean 2.6.26? |
| 23:01.39 | pickcoder | cuz 2.2 hasn't been around for quite a while |
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| 23:01.57 | bartleby | 2.6.26-1-686 yes sorry, i just woke up and the fingers are slow |
| 23:02.22 | pickcoder | the first place to start is figure out what chipset(s) your board has |
| 23:02.35 | pickcoder | then we can figure out if you need a newer kernel+lm-sensors |
| 23:03.06 | scribeskul | I understand Debian 'Lenny' is in testing...If I toss 'Etch' and Install Lenny, can I just keep Lenny, updating when available, until it is stable, or when it becomes stable will i need to completely reinstall again...etc? Any help would be awesome |
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| 23:03.25 | bartleby | the board has an ite it8718f |
| 23:03.56 | pickcoder | scribeskul: set your sources.list to name "lenny" instead of "etch" if you want to nail your install to a specific release and stay there until you want to dist-upgrade again |
| 23:04.10 | pickcoder | you'll need to do a dist-upgrade to move from etch to lenny |
| 23:04.13 | bartleby | running sensors-detect detected it and i instructed the wizard to add the lines to the conf file, but when i review the conf file i dont see it anywhere |
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| 23:04.32 | PeterFA | What's the command for adding/removing services from runlevels/ |
| 23:04.33 | pickcoder | bartleby: that doesn't mean it's correct or that the driver understands the specific chip version you have |
| 23:04.48 | pickcoder | I found that out with the ESB2 chips on Intel 5400 |
| 23:05.17 | pickcoder | I had to back compile my own drivers and install a recent lm-sensors from source |
| 23:05.23 | bartleby | ya i kinda figured that when i didnt see lines for the it87 in conf file |
| 23:05.51 | bartleby | ill poke around their site more and maybe ill have to do the same |
| 23:06.08 | scribeskul | pickcoder: Would it be recommendable to just reinstall the whole OS with a Lenny CD (Say, if I was just bored and felt like cleaning out haha)? |
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| 23:06.13 | bartleby | wha do you mean when you say back compile your drivers? |
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| 23:06.22 | pickcoder | scribeskul: if you really don't like your current install, sure |
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| 23:07.08 | pickcoder | dist-uprgades aren't usually painful, unless you don't read what aptitude is saying it's going to do |
| 23:07.36 | pickcoder | sometimes you have to manually upgrade packages to fix dependency problems |
| 23:08.11 | LoveGuru | Hi, Is there Any tutorial for Newbies to install LAMP in debian etch? |
| 23:08.19 | pickcoder | hisses |
| 23:08.27 | scribeskul | pickcoder: not trying to be annoying, but have there been major revisions over etch in Lenny, and is it stable for day to day use yet, even in testing? |
| 23:08.27 | pickcoder | lamp.. the root of all web evil |
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| 23:09.05 | pickcoder | scribeskul: I don't have lenny installed right now but I ran it for a couple weeks and it seemed fine for server use |
| 23:09.25 | pickcoder | you can review the release critical bugs @ bugs.debian.org |
| 23:09.41 | scribeskul | thanks! |
| 23:11.29 | pickcoder | bartleby: the only driver available for my chipset was for 2.6.28 |
| 23:11.39 | pickcoder | luckily it compiled under the kernel version I had installed |
| 23:11.47 | pickcoder | otherwise no lm-sensors... |
| 23:11.48 | whochismo | anybody knows how to configure proftpd to show UTF-8 (unicode) characters properly? |
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| 23:14.32 | HawkeV_ | muahahaha |
| 23:14.33 | HawkeV_ | it's alive |
| 23:14.35 | HawkeV_ | alive |
| 23:15.11 | Guerin | !win HawkeV_ |
| 23:15.11 | dpkg | Congratulations, HawkeV_! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
| 23:16.13 | HawkeV_ | it'd help if my vpn connection was alive too... |
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| 23:18.33 | m_dige | anyone know how to get 32bits libs when running amd64 |
| 23:18.45 | m_dige | can't run firefox fx. |
| 23:18.46 | HawkeV_ | lib-ia32 |
| 23:18.49 | HawkeV_ | or ia32-lib |
| 23:18.51 | HawkeV_ | can't remember which it is |
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| 23:19.18 | pickcoder | m_dige: the 32-bit libs should be installed automatically on amd64 |
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| 23:19.43 | phr0nak | hallo |
| 23:19.47 | pickcoder | if not you can install ia32-libs |
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| 23:20.15 | m_dige | pickcoder: okay. I am using testing. Don't know if that has anything to say |
| 23:20.34 | pickcoder | dpkg -l ia32-libs |
| 23:20.34 | dpkg | ii ia32-libs 2.8-12.2 pickcoder's private gamp collection |
| 23:20.38 | m_dige | pickcoder: but the chroot thing is not necessary anymore |
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| 23:23.02 | pickcoder | m_dige: oh yeah |
| 23:23.04 | pickcoder | hm |
| 23:23.12 | HawkeV_ | oh, useful |
| 23:23.17 | HawkeV_ | this kernel doesn't have ext3 support |
| 23:23.22 | pickcoder | I have two boxes running amd64 but they're etch |
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| 23:23.52 | m_dige | pickcoder: Was the chroot environment still necessary ? |
| 23:24.03 | pickcoder | I don't think so |
| 23:24.38 | pickcoder | there's a lib32 symlink in / to /emul/ia32-linux/lib |
| 23:25.09 | pickcoder | so maybe it was using a chroot |
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| 23:25.27 | toolz | from where can i get debian for 64 bit |
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| 23:26.12 | chuck | Does anyone know which package comes with the "a2x" utlity? |
| 23:26.26 | m_dige | pickcoder: okay. Thanks |
| 23:26.48 | lunaphyte | chuck: http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=a2x&mode=path&suite=testing&arch=any |
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| 23:38.34 | LiENUS | is there some trick to getting udev to work? |
| 23:38.44 | LiENUS | i have a usb ups and nut installed |
| 23:38.44 | Guerin | LiENUS: no. |
| 23:38.54 | LiENUS | for some reason its not giving the right permissions to the device files |
| 23:38.58 | LiENUS | so newhidups wont launch |
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| 23:39.06 | max|- | hi |
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| 23:39.44 | max|- | why when i use oss i have http://pastealacon.com/1842 |
| 23:39.46 | max|- | ? |
| 23:41.05 | LiENUS | its still owned by root.root |
| 23:41.12 | LiENUS | its not setting the owner to root.nut at all :/ |
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| 23:42.26 | dustybin | how can i remove every single manually installed package? |
| 23:42.34 | dustybin | so im left with a base system |
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| 23:42.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | is silent so not to disturb dustybin |
| 23:43.32 | dustybin | ! |
| 23:44.32 | LiENUS | anyone know how to get the permissions straightened out for debian etch with nut and newhidups? |
| 23:44.37 | Guerin | dustybin: that's a stupid idea |
| 23:44.41 | Guerin | dustybin: just reinstall |
| 23:44.58 | max|- | who can help me pls , |
| 23:45.05 | dustybin | Guerin: im writing some howtos, so id like to reset to a base system once ive written a howto |
| 23:45.08 | Guerin | max|-: why are you using oss? |
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| 23:45.15 | max|- | for campcaster |
| 23:45.46 | jelly-home | dustybin: make an image in advance; restore the image |
| 23:45.52 | dustybin | aye ok! |
| 23:45.52 | Guerin | dustybin: when you first do the install, run dpkg --get-selections > file, then import that file using dpkg --set-selections to revert |
| 23:45.53 | max|- | when i use alsa i have bug |
| 23:46.02 | max|- | i need use oss ! |
| 23:46.08 | dustybin | boody heck ok |
| 23:46.15 | dustybin | my howtos are here worldbeyond.net :P |
| 23:46.18 | Guerin | max|-: you don't seem to have an oss driver properly loaded. |
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| 23:46.32 | max|- | how i can load driver ? |
| 23:46.40 | Metatron | the CD1 for debian, it is all i need to boot live or do a install right? |
| 23:46.58 | Guerin | Metatron: it's not a livecd. It just installs. But yes. |
| 23:47.05 | Guerin | max|-: modprobe somemodule; |
| 23:47.05 | Metatron | ok |
| 23:47.31 | max|- | somemodule . |
| 23:47.42 | max|- | .. ? |
| 23:47.42 | Metatron | what vesion of xorg server and what kernel version does 40r5 use? |
| 23:47.43 | max|- | what module for oss |
| 23:48.18 | HawkeV_ | finally, now i can fix this thing |
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| 23:50.46 | LiENUS | anyone here at all know how to fix this udev permissions problem with nut and newhidups? |
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| 23:51.47 | max|- | pls ? |
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| 23:55.44 | LiENUS | anyone at all know anything at all about udev? |
| 23:57.01 | LiENUS | udev isn't setting the permissions for the usb ups's device files and newhidups is unable to reach it because of this, anyone know how to fix this? debian etch |
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| 23:57.13 | HawkeV_ | anyone know how to grab the post-install script info from a .deb? |
| 23:57.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | !tell max|- about what's my hardware |
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| 23:58.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | max|-, find out what type of soundcard, google what kernel module it needs |
| 23:58.29 | max|- | i need recompile kernel with oss ? |
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| 23:58.47 | gsamsa | how to install flash player? |
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| 23:59.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | max|-, no, only unload/blacklist the alsa module - /msg dpkg blacklist |
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| 23:59.50 | craigevil | gsamsa: if your using etch use flashplugin-nonfree from backports |