| 00:00.11 | peteweez | like what make modules would do if I weren't using make-kpkg |
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| 00:00.14 | gusto | hi |
| 00:00.48 | themill | peteweez: ahh, yes. Sorry, I misunderstood you. |
| 00:01.12 | peteweez | themill: No, it's fine...I'm sure you guys answer so many similar questions that they all must seem the same. |
| 00:01.30 | peteweez | Ironically, I myself helped someone use make-kpkg for the first time last night. |
| 00:01.51 | peteweez | But now I don't know what options to use. |
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| 00:02.23 | enouf | use m-a |
| 00:02.28 | peteweez | themill: Essentially, I've changed one config variable in one package (CONFIG_FAT_DEFAULT_IOCHARSET) and I want to recompile. |
| 00:02.40 | peteweez | enouf: you mean modules-assistant? |
| 00:02.58 | peteweez | sorry module-assistant |
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| 00:03.21 | enouf | yep |
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| 00:03.35 | dutchfish | funny question, why does removing superkaramba wants to remove kde also? |
| 00:03.40 | Zvpun | What is the Debian way of changing totem to always start with --no-existing-session? |
| 00:03.55 | peteweez | enouf: I thought that module-assistant only dealt with third-party source packages |
| 00:04.03 | themill | dutchfish: aptitude why kde superkaramba |
| 00:04.07 | peteweez | I need to recompile a package that's in Linus's tree |
| 00:04.24 | enouf | you want to recompile the fat module .. with other options, no? |
| 00:04.29 | themill | dutchfish: but remember that kde is only a metapackage that includes everything including the kitchen sink |
| 00:04.30 | peteweez | enouf: exactly. |
| 00:04.54 | peteweez | I want to recompile vfat.ko and fat.ko |
| 00:04.56 | peteweez | nothing more |
| 00:05.00 | dutchfish | themill, ah, i gotcha, thank you |
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| 00:05.24 | dutchfish | themill, how to get aorund this then? |
| 00:05.49 | enouf | peteweez: well .. the modules that come with the linux-image-VERSION pkgs are considered .. in tree (debian) .. might want to try make -C .. or edit the "/msg dpkg debian/rules" file for the image |
| 00:06.04 | themill | dutchfish: removing the kde metapackage does no harm at all. /msg dpkg metapackage ; /msg dpkg unmarkauto |
| 00:06.07 | enouf | peteweez: i'm not entirely sure ... |
| 00:06.21 | dutchfish | themill, wow, thank you so much |
| 00:06.28 | enouf | peteweez: but see http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ |
| 00:06.45 | themill | dutchfish: no worries |
| 00:06.52 | error4o4 | on my vps i change the hostname in /etc/hostname and run /etc/init.d/hostname.sh and everything's fine. But after rebooting the system, its gets the old hostname.. any idea? |
| 00:07.08 | peteweez | enouf: In other words, what I want to do is not a standard operation within make-kpkg like it is with the kernel's make (make modules-install). In that case I may just recompile the kernel. |
| 00:07.13 | dutchfish | themill, yep, worked smooth as silk, thanks again |
| 00:07.31 | enouf | peteweez: and http://wiki.debian.org/HowToRebuildAnOfficialDebianKernelPackage . but see /usr/share/kernel-package as well as /usr/share/doc/kernel-package |
| 00:07.42 | enouf | peteweez: right .. |
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| 00:08.45 | enouf | dutchfish: since you use aptitude, might want the aptitude-doc-<CC> pkg (CC == Country Code) |
| 00:09.10 | dutchfish | enouf, ok, noted |
| 00:09.37 | dutchfish | enouf, found 2 criticals in superkaramba 9security related) |
| 00:09.46 | enouf | peteweez: if you do ~$ make-kpkg --targets you see modules as well as modules_image |
| 00:10.01 | enouf | dutchfish: i see ... |
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| 00:10.34 | _joe | hello #debian :) |
| 00:11.05 | peteweez | enouf: I thought modules_image was what would make a .deb of the modules |
| 00:11.14 | peteweez | ah well, I've already started building the kernel |
| 00:11.14 | dutchfish | enouf, i will file them |
| 00:11.17 | peteweez | no big deal |
| 00:12.15 | _joe | i am getting debian working on an msi wind |
| 00:12.19 | _joe | it's great fun |
| 00:12.28 | enouf | peteweez: it should make a distributable deb of just the modules ... but there seem to be caveats - now, man make-kpkg and search for target |
| 00:13.37 | peteweez | enouf: Yeah I did look at the targets |
| 00:13.42 | peteweez | I rtfm'ed |
| 00:13.52 | peteweez | but it doesn't seem to be a simple task |
| 00:14.13 | peteweez | so I'll just recompile the kernel...it doesn't take long with a dual-core 2.26 GHz |
| 00:14.19 | unkmar_ | exit |
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| 00:16.34 | enouf | peteweez: right .. but i've atleast perused almost all the docs i mentioned .. and i recall very many ways detailed to perform similar tasks like you mention |
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| 00:18.30 | peteweez | The modules targets seem to deal with external sources in /usr/src/modules. |
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| 00:20.00 | jhamlin | after I add myself to a group, do I have to log out and log back in for that to take effect? |
| 00:21.03 | dutchfish | jhamlin, there was a command for that but i forgot, so you dont have to relog |
| 00:21.20 | enouf | peteweez: you said " Essentially, I've changed one config variable in one package (CONFIG_FAT_DEFAULT_IOCHARSET) " .. well the pkg is linux-image-VERSION , iinm, unless you're talking about linux-kbuild-2.6 |
| 00:21.51 | peteweez | enouf: I see what you're saying and that's exactly what I'm thinking. |
| 00:21.58 | stoned | hi |
| 00:22.00 | stoned | whast up guys |
| 00:22.07 | peteweez | Debian does not release the core kernel modules in a separate package from the kernel image. |
| 00:22.14 | enouf | peteweez: see .. one you alter th config .. it might not play well with the debian patches |
| 00:22.19 | stoned | what? |
| 00:22.27 | peteweez | enouf: What debian patches ;-) |
| 00:22.34 | peteweez | I got this straight from kernel.org |
| 00:22.34 | enouf | peteweez: right -headers though |
| 00:22.46 | peteweez | not a lick of debian in it |
| 00:23.00 | peteweez | btw hi stoned |
| 00:23.29 | enouf | peteweez: then you shouldn't need anything, but to compile the kernel with the options you want - make-kpkg just allows you to make nice installable and removable .deb |
| 00:23.54 | stoned | peteweez, hello |
| 00:24.06 | peteweez | enouf: yeah I use it to make sure that menu.lst gets updated |
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| 00:24.40 | themill | enouf: I think peteweez is asking is there is a way of varying just one config parameter without having to rebuild the entire kernel and kernel package (remembering that kp does make clean as its first step) |
| 00:25.03 | peteweez | enouf: so you're saying that I could have just done /usr/src/linux# make modules-install? |
| 00:25.26 | dutchfish | !m-i |
| 00:25.47 | dutchfish | mmm |
| 00:26.01 | stoned | dutchfish, what are you looking for? |
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| 00:26.32 | stoned | uh |
| 00:26.32 | stoned | whhosp |
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| 00:32.21 | dutchfish | peteweez, soned i wa slooking for this: http://packages.debian.org/lenny/module-assistant |
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| 00:33.29 | peteweez | dutchfish: Yeah I think that deals with third-party modules |
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| 00:37.07 | scientes | how do i use apt-cacher while installing |
| 00:37.20 | scientes | it keeps saying its an invalid mirror i cant get it to work |
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| 00:37.54 | dutchfish | scientes, check if your /etc/apt/sources.list is valid |
| 00:38.10 | scientes | on which computer? |
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| 00:38.19 | dutchfish | scientes, huh? |
| 00:38.35 | scientes | i use /etc/apt/apt.d.conf/01proxy to work on installed machines and it works great |
| 00:38.46 | scientes | but i want to use apt-cacher when installing a system |
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| 00:41.54 | dutchfish | scientes, as far as i know you need to point your clients sources.list to the machine that runs apt-cacher, at the top of my head |
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| 00:42.06 | enouf | themill: afaik, make-kpkg won't run clean, unless you tell it to .. IOW, it's not some sort of default that it does |
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| 00:42.24 | themill | enouf: hmm... I thought it did. |
| 00:42.51 | enouf | themill: that's why the kp mantra lists "make-kpkg clean ; ...... " |
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| 00:43.37 | dutchfish | enouf, i had problems with make-kpkg too on lenny amd64, need to explicitly give it the $ARCH and $sub_arch |
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| 00:43.41 | scientes | i managed to upgrade debian just fine with a ubuntu apt-cacher server |
| 00:44.00 | scientes | and do both intrepid and hardy and i386 and x64 and etch all off it |
| 00:44.07 | scientes | i just cant install from it |
| 00:44.49 | enouf | peteweez: it's only because the modules for the kernel are part of the linux-image-VERSION pkg that you want/need to recompile the whole kernel .. the typical kernel.org build method doesn't involve making a binary installable .deb ... with many specifics to deban |
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| 00:45.02 | enouf | dutchfish: lenny? etch? |
| 00:45.08 | dutchfish | enouf, lenny |
| 00:45.20 | enouf | dutchfish: i think sid - and maybe lenny have a newer updtaed make-kpkg |
| 00:45.28 | enouf | judd: version kernel-package |
| 00:45.28 | judd | enouf: (version takes no arguments) -- Returns the version of the current bot. |
| 00:45.33 | enouf | judd: versions kernel-package |
| 00:45.34 | judd | enouf: kernel-package -- etch: 10.067 sid: 11.012 lenny: 11.015 sid: 11.015 |
| 00:46.14 | enouf | er .. sid .. lenny .. sid ? |
| 00:46.17 | peteweez | enouf: That's kind of what I thought. It makes perfect sense. |
| 00:46.24 | enouf | dutchfish: i'm pretty sure i've only dealt with the 10x versions so fa |
| 00:46.26 | enouf | far* |
| 00:47.06 | themill | stew: what's with the strange versions reported by judd for "versions kernel-package"? Is there stale sid data in the database? |
| 00:48.28 | Hesham | i'm installing debian-40r3-i386-CD <-- full cd but using low memory install . Its asking me to select the debian archive mirror country while I Have No Internet Connection |
| 00:49.33 | Hesham | help please ! |
| 00:49.52 | dutchfish | enouf, mmm... strange |
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| 00:50.41 | dutchfish | Hesham, you have CD1 form full set, or a netinstall? |
| 00:50.56 | Hesham | full set |
| 00:51.09 | Hesham | 644 MB |
| 00:51.30 | Hesham | * i need the gnome to be installed from the cd |
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| 00:52.06 | enouf | dutchfish: and ... i'm no pro with it .. but i have at more than one time taken source from kernel.org and sometimes patched it, and (after doing make-oldconfig, and make-menuconfig to rego through all the options ) used make-kpkg to make a .deb for installation |
| 00:52.20 | dutchfish | Hesham, if you have a net connection later fill it in, it will skip on try |
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| 00:52.45 | Hesham | i can only select a country or <Go Back> |
| 00:53.02 | Hesham | if i <Go Back> will i have the gnome installed? |
| 00:53.18 | dutchfish | enouf, yes, it works, but sometimes i need to explicitly give arch and sub-arch, at least with 2.6.28-rc7 |
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| 00:53.48 | dutchfish | enouf, otherwise the compiler chokes on it |
| 00:54.04 | dutchfish | enouf, dont hit me, dont know why |
| 00:54.39 | enouf | dutchfish: last one i did was ~.26 .. so i can't say |
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| 00:55.14 | dutchfish | enouf, i will delve into to logs for more info tommorrow, its on anothe rmachine, i kept the compile logs |
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| 00:55.55 | Hesham | can anybody help? |
| 00:56.02 | dutchfish | enouf, for your info, i was not x-compiling |
| 00:56.29 | enouf | dutchfish: i never used any x-related config |
| 00:56.52 | dutchfish | enouf, sorry i meant cross-compiling |
| 00:58.08 | mats | has somebody an idea why i can't convert .flv into avi(xvid) with ffmpeg (i got the error: Unsupported codec for output stream #0.0 (even after the installation of the xvid-libs)) |
| 00:58.11 | mats | ? |
| 00:58.35 | Hesham | great seems not :/ |
| 00:59.10 | dutchfish | enouf, i have just a hunch that this could be perl related |
| 00:59.16 | dutchfish | enouf, also not sure |
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| 00:59.57 | Gigantic | what man should I look for vga mode? |
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| 01:00.22 | weedeater | Hesham: gnome is default desktop, if I understand you |
| 01:00.59 | Hesham | my previous installation did not bring up any GUI desktop :/ |
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| 01:01.04 | enouf | dutchfish: i recall something about an ARCH issue in recent debian builds in the -kernel channel ... but the specifics, i forget - it might've even had to do with the nvidia driver (xen config related) however , the .27 is not even uploaded to buildserver yet, IINM, or if it is, it's been done within the last few days |
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| 01:01.44 | enouf | Gigantic: tldp.org |
| 01:02.06 | dutchfish | enouf, yep, bingo, now i remember i need to disable xen in the kernel also on 2.6.27 latest |
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| 01:02.11 | enouf | Gigantic: /msg dpkg fbcon resolution |
| 01:02.32 | Gigantic | aha... ty |
| 01:02.43 | enouf | dutchfish: but . it was nvidia's fault |
| 01:02.49 | dutchfish | enouf, after that it went smooth |
| 01:02.57 | dutchfish | enouf, no idee abou that |
| 01:03.12 | dutchfish | enouf, could be |
| 01:03.12 | enouf | dutchfish: that much .. i do recalll |
| 01:03.24 | weedeater | Hesham: You got me, I though desktop with gnome was default |
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| 01:03.46 | dutchfish | enouf, i have also a fresh lenny install, i will repeat and check on that too tomorrow |
| 01:04.25 | enouf | their installer was relying on parsing an config option for info it shouldn't have been |
| 01:04.34 | dutchfish | enouf, yes |
| 01:04.48 | Hesham | weedeater that's what i thought during my previous installation ( one hour ago ) but ended with a CLI <localhost~># or something like that |
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| 01:06.01 | mats | why can't anybody help me? |
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| 01:06.31 | dutchfish | enouf, i normally not to keen about new kernels, but 2.6.26 has driven me nuts with lots of issues on my installs |
| 01:07.14 | enouf | i don't seem to have the debian-kernel xen/nvidia issue email bookmarked |
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| 01:07.32 | dutchfish | enouf, np, i have read it too, i am sure |
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| 01:08.29 | enouf | mats: irc takes patience and diligence, and nicely asking as you just did |
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| 01:09.06 | enouf | mats: when people are so persistent in needing an answer .. it's usually because they do not care about the community |
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| 01:10.35 | dutchfish | mats, did you try somethin glike this: ffmpeg -i myvideo.flv -f avi -vcodec mpeg4 myvideo.avi |
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| 01:12.45 | weedeater | Hesham: Did you try $startx |
| 01:13.01 | dutchfish | mats, or you could just use vlc for that too, it has the right codecs by itself |
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| 01:13.26 | Hesham | weedeater yea command were not found anyway i'm trying to reinstall now will see what happens |
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| 01:15.00 | roooot | can any one give me some programs name can help me to limit connection to my server geographically (by country) |
| 01:16.09 | dutchfish | roooot, what you mean by limit? block by country? |
| 01:17.08 | roooot | dutchfish: yes block by country |
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| 01:17.12 | weedeater | Hesham: Was there a software/package selection window during install? |
| 01:17.26 | dutchfish | roooot, you could delve into geoip and script that to iptables |
| 01:18.23 | dutchfish | roooot, but it will create much overhead |
| 01:18.33 | Hesham | weedeater no, but this try i got one and base system and desktop enviroment were selected and i'm proceeding that way |
| 01:18.34 | roooot | geoip can work only with httpd what about other ports ?? |
| 01:18.52 | dutchfish | roooot, the same |
| 01:19.32 | roooot | dutchfish : geoip can block connection from other port ?? |
| 01:19.38 | weedeater | Hesham: Sounds good |
| 01:20.32 | dutchfish | roooot, no, geoip just determine what country, you need to script that info and feed it to iptables |
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| 01:21.42 | dutchfish | roooot, geoip is just a database, there are no tools (yet) that i know of that do the blocking part, but that should be not so hard to script |
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| 01:22.25 | dutchfish | roooot, maybe snort or other ids can do that, dont know |
| 01:22.36 | scientes | can i install to nfs? |
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| 01:23.28 | weedeater | scientes: You have my permission |
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| 01:23.49 | dutchfish | roooot, you might be better off with good DOS protection, then selectivily block based on geo info |
| 01:24.05 | roooot | dutchfish: so can I install geoIP and will be work fine without recopile it with kernel ? |
| 01:24.12 | scientes | lol, <i>how</i> should i install to nfs |
| 01:24.13 | mats | dutchfish, yes i tried your tip. But i got "Unknown encoder 'mpeg4'" as error |
| 01:24.39 | scientes | it seems like it would be easier to maintain to use to vms through nfs, and then they can be live migrated |
| 01:24.43 | dutchfish | mats, is ffmpeg properly configured? |
| 01:25.33 | dutchfish | roooot, maybe you want to delve in this also: http://www.maxmind.com/app/country |
| 01:25.38 | mats | and vlc doesn't do it in the right way, i'm using the streaming-assistent ... |
| 01:25.57 | dutchfish | mats, mmm... |
| 01:26.19 | weedeater | scientes: I havn't used vms |
| 01:27.15 | dutchfish | mats, maybe use this script (at the bottom) http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/how-to-convert-flv-files-606013/ |
| 01:27.39 | dutchfish | mats, i am not a video guru ;) |
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| 01:28.46 | dutchfish | mats, but make sure the right codecs are in place |
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| 01:29.17 | dutchfish | mats, not all can be used to encode |
| 01:29.46 | mats | dutchfish, i allready know this script. it doesn't work too. how can i make sure the right codecs are in place? |
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| 01:32.16 | dutchfish | mats, dunno, could be non-free or delve into the multimedia repo |
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| 01:33.03 | dutchfish | mats, http://debian-multimedia.org/ |
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| 01:33.30 | mats | dutchfish, sorry i did not understand you: what is the multimedia repo? what is delve? |
| 01:33.37 | smacnay | I am trying to figure out the name of the monitor app that sits on the desktop... not gkrellm. |
| 01:34.12 | dutchfish | mats, delve = try to find out by reading, i also give you the link to debian-multimedia |
| 01:35.00 | dutchfish | !debian-multimedia |
| 01:35.01 | dpkg | from memory, dmm is Debian Multimedia, a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for patent-related reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat. For information on how to use this repository, see http://debian-multimedia.org/ or ask me about <dmm etch> <dmm lenny> |
| 01:36.04 | scientes | what is etchnhalf? |
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| 01:36.08 | mats | dutchfish, thx i try. |
| 01:36.16 | dutchfish | mats, yw |
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| 01:37.48 | dutchfish | !tell scientes about etchnhalf |
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| 01:42.56 | Gigantic | acupsd |
| 01:43.01 | Gigantic | ! |
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| 01:43.27 | rhineheart_m | hello.. is selinux present in debian? |
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| 01:45.05 | Gigantic | haha, I was trying to wonder why acupsd wasn't working... it is not installed lol |
| 01:45.31 | Gigantic | !doh |
| 01:45.31 | dpkg | from memory, doh is what homer simpson says when sid crashes |
| 01:46.11 | Gigantic | rhineheart_m: http://wiki.debian.org/SELinux |
| 01:46.16 | craigevil | rhineheart_m: http://wiki.debian.org/SELinux |
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| 01:46.25 | craigevil | doh echo |
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| 01:47.21 | Hesham | now works. thank you weedeater , thanks all |
| 01:47.29 | enouf | rhineheart_m: er .. kind of .. depending on release |
| 01:48.26 | Gigantic | wonders if nsa still use linux |
| 01:48.41 | rhineheart_m | has the latest version of debian has it already enabled by default? |
| 01:48.55 | nullboy | Gigantic: nah they just backdoor it with selinux now ;) |
| 01:49.01 | simonrvn | be careful if you ask them, they might take you into "interrogation" for asking. |
| 01:49.39 | simonrvn | ...and csis added another tick next to my name just now :P |
| 01:49.40 | Gigantic | lol |
| 01:49.49 | karlpinc | rhineheart_m : The stable version installs it with most everything turned off by default. |
| 01:50.04 | Gigantic | especially since my mom is arab ;) |
| 01:50.13 | Gigantic | hello guantanamo |
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| 01:52.08 | simonrvn | i'm north american indigenous, we're also put in the 'terrorist' category ;p |
| 01:52.48 | superbird | you're also lactose intollerant. |
| 01:52.55 | simonrvn | quite |
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| 01:54.03 | simonrvn | AFK |
| 01:58.25 | jpinx | anyone come across chinese usb sticks that don't actually have the memory they claim? |
| 01:58.48 | jpinx | I have a 32Gb one that corrupts everything past about 8 Gbs :( |
| 01:59.41 | nullboy | jpinx: or they are made with write once mem instead of flash haha |
| 02:02.06 | jpinx | nullboy: :p |
| 02:02.12 | jpinx | who knows? |
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| 02:02.34 | jpinx | it works up to about 8GBs |
| 02:02.54 | weedeater | bye |
| 02:03.00 | nullboy | jpinx: my only suggestion is to dd the whole stick with /dev/zero, repartition and reformat |
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| 02:03.22 | jpinx | nullboy: dd is a good idea - ta |
| 02:03.28 | nullboy | good luck |
| 02:03.40 | dob1 | hi, i have a text file about 400mb, i want to cut all the lines from begin to a determinated line position, i can use vim to do this but opening such a large file is a problem |
| 02:04.07 | Gigantic | there is the bash way |
| 02:04.40 | Gigantic | man split |
| 02:04.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | enouf, pretty funny - I'm trying dtach -A instead my normal killall routine for my current mail-ssh window (pity I find out so late, might have to give it up soon) and ... I'm not used to the new behavior at all yet, so I end up with lots of dtach-pine windows over time :) |
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| 02:06.11 | jahshua | hello folks, i am trying to install irssi with ipv6 support, can anyone help me on how i can get apt to do this? |
| 02:06.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | jpinx, perhaps the driver just can't handle the addressing > 8GGB... or the stick is in some way pysically bad above 8GB... either way, there's not much you can do |
| 02:06.19 | dob1 | Gigantic: split can be a solution, but then i have to delete the first file and concat the other output files to get the result |
| 02:07.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | jpinx, but you could really try to write a file or something directly to the stick with dd/cp, to see if corruption is really independent of the filesystem (which it looks like) |
| 02:07.35 | jpinx | CutMeOwnThroat: I just use the first *GBs at the moment. I'm playing around with dd'ing it with 0's and then I'll repartition into 4 x 8GBs |
| 02:08.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | 32GB sticks are also still rather uncommon, aren't they? |
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| 02:08.30 | jpinx | CutMeOwnThroat: I know of a guy in New Zealand who bought 64GBs sticks from China |
| 02:09.03 | jpinx | only to find the same problem |
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| 02:09.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | jpinx, perhaps also try it on a windows vista or whatnot machine... perhaps there's some problem with this stick and the way the kernel tries to handle >8GB\ |
| 02:09.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | jpinx, hehe, yeah, or they just sell you a new kind of vaporware |
| 02:09.35 | jpinx | CutMeOwnThroat: that was the first thing I did and it was the same in W*blows |
| 02:09.49 | jpinx | I reckon it's a chinese scam ;) |
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| 02:10.32 | jpinx | I have no problem with kingston and sandrive sticks up to 8GBs |
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| 02:10.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | dob1, sed -i can also do it ... with a syntax like s/^.{12}// for the 1st 12 chars - needs some option to use perl regexps, though |
| 02:11.46 | dob1 | ok i try thanks |
| 02:12.15 | jpinx | is it "... if=/dev/zero ..." to overwrite with 0's ? |
| 02:12.59 | Gigantic | I prefer /dev/random |
| 02:13.15 | \amethyst | err |
| 02:13.21 | \amethyst | /dev/urandom surely |
| 02:13.24 | Gigantic | *u |
| 02:13.27 | Gigantic | yeah |
| 02:14.03 | jpinx | ok - thanks - it's running with /dev/zero atm, so I'll wait till it's done |
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| 02:16.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | Gigantic, well, got any last words before you're being dragged off? |
| 02:17.02 | Gigantic | mommy? |
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| 02:17.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | hehe |
| 02:17.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | bah, you can say that when you're already in Guantanamo... |
| 02:17.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | repeatedly |
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| 02:19.02 | Gigantic | well at least I will be warmer |
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| 02:20.23 | mohadib | hello, im trying to install testing on a gigabyte ga-ep45-ud3p, ICH10R sata chipset, the installer says no disk found and gives me a list of drivers to choose from. Can anyone tell me what driver to use or what im doing wrong? |
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| 02:22.54 | ekontsevoy | Is anyone using command-line version of bittorrent? In my case btlaunchmanycurses seems to ignore --max_upload_rate option: my download speed is 27kb/s while upload is 110kb/sec (max) making my connection barely usable |
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| 02:25.50 | Octalot | ekontsevoy: one torrent or several? the rate-limit worked last time I checked, but it might be per-torrent |
| 02:26.35 | ekontsevoy | Octalot: ahhr... I see. I have 4 |
| 02:26.35 | ekontsevoy | Makes sense |
| 02:26.45 | ekontsevoy | thanks, I'll be trying this out |
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| 02:28.01 | ekontsevoy | works! |
| 02:28.31 | mohadib | ok, the disk is showing up, but i had to choose RAID mode for my controller |
| 02:28.42 | mohadib | it was set to disabled, i can use AHCI too |
| 02:28.46 | mohadib | which one should i use? |
| 02:29.30 | Gigantic | just a guess, is raid configured via hardware? |
| 02:30.04 | mohadib | yes |
| 02:30.16 | mohadib | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Host_Controller_Interface |
| 02:30.23 | mohadib | that indicates Intel says use the RAID setting |
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| 02:33.22 | Gigantic | idk I always use Sw |
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| 02:41.21 | Wyzard | mohadib: That recommendation from Intel seems to be based on Windows getting confused if the controller is switched from plain AHCI to RAID mode |
| 02:41.46 | mohadib | aye |
| 02:42.08 | Wyzard | mohadib: It may not be a problem for Debian, since Linux doesn't handle disk-controller drivers at bootup the way Windows does |
| 02:42.13 | mohadib | unless there is some reason i should not ill just got with the raid setting |
| 02:42.20 | mohadib | ah |
| 02:42.33 | Wyzard | I use plain AHCI mode and software RAID |
| 02:42.45 | mohadib | im not doing raid at all |
| 02:42.55 | mohadib | i can still do SW raid if i want later iirc |
| 02:43.00 | Wyzard | I consider software RAID preferable because it's hardware-independent -- if my motherboard dies and I have to get a new one, I don't have to worry about whether the new board understands the old array |
| 02:43.13 | mohadib | having the contrller in raid mode seems to work fine for non raided disks |
| 02:43.19 | mohadib | i prefer software raid too |
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| 02:45.02 | Sweetandy | Has anybody had any luck with the wireless in an iBook G4 in Debian Lenny? |
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| 02:50.28 | Thumpity | debhelper: got time to entertain a silly question? |
| 02:51.08 | Thumpity | Anybody else got time to hear my inquiries? |
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| 02:53.14 | mohadib | Thumpity: just ask |
| 02:56.24 | Thumpity | If I want to install Debian offline, but I only want to download 1 CD can I do it? |
| 02:56.50 | Thumpity | Or is netinstall or 7 CDs my only option? |
| 02:57.09 | \amethyst | Thumpity: yes, but you'll have a fairly limited set of packages |
| 02:57.09 | \amethyst | Thumpity: with CD 1 |
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| 02:57.28 | epsilon | better take dvd |
| 02:57.29 | \amethyst | Thumpity: or you can use jigdo to build an install CD that has exactly the packages you want (that will fit) |
| 02:57.45 | Thumpity | So the first CD is a complete installer, and then I can just use apt once I get a network connection to install additional packages? |
| 02:57.45 | Thumpity | hmm |
| 02:57.45 | Thumpity | jigdo |
| 02:58.00 | Wyzard | \amethyst: jigdo is for downloading the pre-built CD images, not building custom ones |
| 02:58.00 | epsilon | to install, you only need netinstall |
| 02:58.00 | \amethyst | Wyzard: oh, what is it I'm thinking of? |
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| 03:00.16 | Wyzard | dunno |
| 03:00.16 | \amethyst | Wyzard: I always use the netinst or debootstrap :) |
| 03:00.16 | Thumpity | yeah, what is it, because it sounds great. |
| 03:00.23 | Thumpity | whats debootstrap? |
| 03:00.23 | epsilon | sth you dont need atm |
| 03:00.23 | \amethyst | Thumpity: it's for installing debian into a chroot from an existing system; as epsilon says you probably don't need it right now |
| 03:00.24 | Thumpity | what about the custom build CD, is that really an option? |
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| 03:00.24 | epsilon | yes - but only if you know what packages you need |
| 03:00.24 | epsilon | so more for experienced user |
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| 03:01.03 | Thumpity | ok, thanks to all |
| 03:01.11 | Thumpity | I will try out the CD 1 install |
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| 03:05.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | Sweetandy, there is #debianppc |
| 03:05.31 | Sweetandy | CutMeOwnThroat: Thanks! |
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| 03:08.56 | octo_ | is there something a user needs besides the group wheel to become SU ? |
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| 03:09.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | ? |
| 03:10.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | SU? |
| 03:11.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | you mean root? |
| 03:11.15 | nullboy | superuser |
| 03:11.15 | nullboy | aka root |
| 03:11.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | wheel got nothing to do with who can become root |
| 03:12.57 | nullboy | well in the sudoers file wheel group is used in some distros to just give users who are members full sudo access |
| 03:13.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | I think he went to sleep :) |
| 03:13.13 | octo_ | yea |
| 03:13.13 | epsilon | are you using ubunt*? |
| 03:13.28 | nullboy | me> |
| 03:13.28 | nullboy | ? |
| 03:13.41 | octo_ | i made a user, but i cant SU with it, the root pass doesnt work |
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| 03:13.51 | nullboy | octo_: you give it YOUR password |
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| 03:14.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | let's make that clear, you give _sudo_ your password |
| 03:14.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | you give su the root password |
| 03:14.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | enough fuzzy talk! |
| 03:14.55 | octo_ | i give it my password to log in but i have to give it root password to SU dont I? |
| 03:14.55 | nullboy | yeah my mistake |
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| 03:15.06 | zinx | octo_: to su, yes. to sudo, no. |
| 03:15.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, more like his mistake |
| 03:15.06 | octo_ | i dont want sudo |
| 03:15.06 | zinx | octo_: you give sudo your own password, as it asks. you give su the root password. |
| 03:15.06 | octo_ | just su :) |
| 03:15.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | he didn't ask a precise question... |
| 03:15.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | octo_, there is no restriction as to which user can use su, that I know of |
| 03:15.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | definitely not in default debian installations |
| 03:15.57 | xxiao | i'm forcing myself to learn dash |
| 03:15.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | (I guess one *can* limit it) |
| 03:15.57 | xxiao | how to "source" a .bashrc under dash? |
| 03:15.57 | xxiao | do we have something called dashrc |
| 03:16.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | same way as in bash? |
| 03:16.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | i.e. ". .bashrc"? |
| 03:17.11 | xxiao | it complains can not find .bashrc, while it's there |
| 03:18.08 | adb | xxiao: try in #bash |
| 03:19.11 | xxiao | i had a debate this afternoon on bash-dash |
| 03:19.37 | xxiao | basically, after i relink /bin/sh to bash, some programs broke |
| 03:20.06 | xxiao | so i'm forced to use dash then, is everyone using dash as daily shell now? |
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| 03:20.54 | xxiao | we have too many ash already for shells |
| 03:20.54 | \amethyst | in dash . searches the path |
| 03:21.01 | \amethyst | you want . ./.bashrc |
| 03:21.44 | xxiao | \amethyst: thanks. i just switched my account to use /bin/bash instead |
| 03:21.52 | xxiao | really, anyone here uses dash for daily shell? |
| 03:22.22 | \amethyst | probably not |
| 03:22.53 | \amethyst | it's more intended for scripts than interactive use |
| 03:23.06 | xxiao | \amethyst: so...you mean for our login account, we should prefer bash? |
| 03:23.15 | \amethyst | well, that's up to you, but I certainly do |
| 03:23.38 | xxiao | that makes me feel better, the . ./.bashrc just seems odd |
| 03:23.50 | \amethyst | or ksh93 or something like that |
| 03:24.02 | \amethyst | (though in ksh93 . also searches $PATH and not . ) |
| 03:25.39 | \amethyst | (ksh93 doesn't have command-line editing turned on by default, you'll need to do set -o emacs or set -o vi |
| 03:25.39 | \amethyst | ) |
| 03:25.52 | xxiao | never used that |
| 03:26.04 | stew | judd: versions kernel-package |
| 03:26.04 | judd | stew: kernel-package -- etch: 10.067 sid: 11.012 lenny: 11.015 sid: 11.015 |
| 03:26.04 | stew | tazle: is that not right? |
| 03:26.12 | xxiao | i mainly use bash |
| 03:26.12 | stew | tazle: not you |
| 03:26.12 | stew | themill: ? |
| 03:26.19 | stew | oh sid is in there twice |
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| 03:28.48 | stew | wonders if it could be a problem with arch: all in general |
| 03:29.02 | stew | themill: on the todo list |
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| 03:29.57 | \amethyst | xxiao: it's got a few features bash doesn't (floating-point arithmetic, associative arrays indexed by strings, ...). It's also missing some things bash has (advanced debugging support, history expansion, ...) |
| 03:33.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | btw. could an additional repository "semi-stable" help the problem of long freeze times before release in an efficient manner ... or is it more likely to just increase the amount of administrative tasks? |
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| 03:35.15 | xxiao | \amethyst: will spend sometime playing with it...sounds interesting |
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| 03:36.16 | \amethyst | xxiao: there's also zsh, which is one of the most featureful shells out there; but I'm not that familiar with it |
| 03:37.17 | xxiao | \amethyst: true, csh too, i saw someone uses ksh/csh in my company |
| 03:37.30 | \amethyst | xxiao: csh is a very different language from bash |
| 03:37.36 | xxiao | when i wrote a script, i at least need it work for both bash and csh |
| 03:38.00 | xxiao | that's just our work settings here |
| 03:38.11 | \amethyst | xxiao: ksh and zsh are at least both based on Bourne shell, while csh isn't. loops and conditionals and so on are completely different |
| 03:38.15 | xxiao | ksh is close to bash right? dash is just new to me by today |
| 03:38.30 | xxiao | anyways |
| 03:38.55 | \amethyst | ksh93 is close to bash; the Posix standard is somewhere between ksh88 and ksh93 |
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| 03:39.04 | \amethyst | dash tries to stay close to Posix |
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| 03:40.24 | \amethyst | quite a few of the extensions bash has over Posix shell ( [[ ]], (( )), select, arrays, extglobs, etc. ) are also in ksh |
| 03:40.31 | micky | can i used a wireless card that is found using ndiswrapper in access point mode ? |
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| 03:41.02 | amikrop | What is the equivalent of FL Studio? |
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| 03:42.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | \amethyst, heh, I actually just read " there's also zsh, which is one of the most fearful shells" |
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| 03:43.32 | xxiao | looks like we need three PhDs to figure out all the shells we have |
| 03:43.42 | xxiao | and write ten thesis around them |
| 03:43.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | xxiao, not really |
| 03:44.01 | xxiao | do benchmark, compare syntax, check posix compatibility,etc |
| 03:44.09 | \amethyst | nah, a master's project maybe |
| 03:44.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | basically there's bourne and csh and a lot of clones |
| 03:44.50 | xxiao | and memory footprint, speed at boot, dependencies,etcetc :) |
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| 03:44.56 | D3RGPS31 | Is there a web proxy cache that stores the data in a readable hierarchy? (/dir/google.com/...) |
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| 03:45.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | there's only 4 or so caching proxies in Debian... guess you could just try them |
| 03:46.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | squid doesn't |
| 03:46.08 | D3RGPS31 | :D |
| 03:46.17 | xxiao | then we have perl, python, ruby, lui, erlang, lisp, all the scripts magic, on and on |
| 03:46.17 | D3RGPS31 | I know, I just checked with them |
| 03:46.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | apache also has a proxy module |
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| 03:46.50 | \amethyst | xxiao: well, if you want to get into every programming language ever designed, then we're talking a lifelong project |
| 03:46.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | ... but I don't remember how it's cache was organized... don't think so |
| 03:47.07 | Wyzard | I don't think apache's mod_proxy does caching |
| 03:47.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | hehe |
| 03:47.10 | xxiao | \amethyst: that's my point, why dash instead of improving bash? |
| 03:47.14 | D3RGPS31 | CutMeOwnThroat: would Polipo be one of the four? |
| 03:47.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | Wyzard, yeah, that might be |
| 03:47.34 | \amethyst | xxiao: because bash is much larger than dash, because of its huge set of features |
| 03:48.07 | xxiao | what about lui instead of dash if the latter is mainly for scripting? |
| 03:48.21 | \amethyst | it's intended for running shell scripts |
| 03:48.52 | \amethyst | all kinds of OS infrastructure is implemented using shell scripts, and dash runs them faster than bash |
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| 03:49.00 | xxiao | anyway, i don't quite get it. but am ready to learn it |
| 03:49.08 | SuperPhly_ | Is there a repo for ruby-gems 1.3? |
| 03:49.27 | \amethyst | so as long as they don't use bashisms, a shell can use #! /bin/sh then the system administrator gets to determine which Posix-compatible shell it runs under |
| 03:49.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | D3RGPS31, never heared of that one - I thought of something like "apt-cache search proxy --names-only" or apt-cache search ' caching' proxy - oops seems to be one of them |
| 03:49.50 | D3RGPS31 | CutMeOwnThroat thanks :D |
| 03:51.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | D3RGPS31, both are not very good, though... but I seem to be too tired to come up with a better search |
| 03:51.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | D3RGPS31, polipo seems to be another one |
| 03:51.44 | D3RGPS31 | CutMeOwnThroat would Oops! be able to store the indexed files, media, documents, archives, in the hierarchy? |
| 03:52.40 | Lifeform | anyone in Asia her ? |
| 03:52.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | no idea... I only used apache, squid (once!) and internet junkbuster(-clones), which is non-caching |
| 03:53.24 | iShock | dmesg error @ http://vertex.cluenet.org/paste/10 someone tell me why I can't add songs to psp |
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| 03:54.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | D3RGPS31, how about a combination of proxytrack and httrack? (apt-cache show proxytrack) |
| 03:54.42 | D3RGPS31 | :D |
| 03:54.42 | iShock | And how do I add files to a zip? |
| 03:54.43 | Wyzard | iShock: "lost page write due to I/O error on sdb1" -- is that your PSP? |
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| 03:55.14 | iShock | Wyzard: Prolly. |
| 03:55.19 | Wyzard | iShock: Could be a bad cable or something, or maybe Sony isn't fully complying with the USB mass storage standard |
| 03:55.29 | iShock | It works on Windows. |
| 03:55.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | Wyzard, that looks kinda like he pulled off an usb stick :) |
| 03:56.11 | Wyzard | Did you install any special Sony software to access the PSP in Windows? |
| 03:56.28 | scientes | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:56.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | !pal scientes |
| 03:56.40 | dpkg | points at scientes and laughs |
| 03:56.40 | octo_ | ok, assuming my user is inthe wheel group if needed, there should be no reason I cannot su if I know the root pass right? |
| 03:56.50 | scientes | i know i put a space in there |
| 03:57.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | octo_, I told you, wheel has nothing to do with that - any user can use su and the root password |
| 03:57.49 | Wyzard | CutMeOwnThroat: Restricting access to root is what wheel is traditionally for, and there's a PAM module (pam_wheel) for doing so -- it's just not enabled by default in Debian |
| 03:58.03 | epsilon | octo_: are you using debian or ubuntu? |
| 03:58.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | Wyzard, but it's not used in Debian... I'd know if I would have needed to add myself to wheel... |
| 03:58.30 | epsilon | cause debian doesn't have wheel by default |
| 03:58.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | Wyzard, perhaps some of the harden-something packages starts it, though... |
| 03:59.06 | Wyzard | well, Debian calls gid 0 "root" rather than "wheel", but pam_wheel doesn't care about the name |
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| 03:59.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | Wyzard, oh - wheel had gid 0? I thought it's just a custom-made group like staff... |
| 03:59.46 | Wyzard | anyway, octo_, presumably you would know if you had enabled pam_wheel, because it isn't the default |
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| 04:00.40 | Wyzard | CutMeOwnThroat: I don't know for certain, but pam_wheel defaults to "the wheel or GID 0 groups" according to http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/Linux-PAM-html/sag-pam_wheel.html |
| 04:00.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | is just reading man pam_wheel |
| 04:01.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | Wyzard, that says something else: If no group with this name exist, the module is using the group with the group-ID 0. |
| 04:01.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | ... which means normally you make a non-gid-0 wheel group(?) |
| 04:01.57 | Wyzard | could be |
| 04:03.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | Wyzard, but thanks for correcting me there :) |
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| 04:07.47 | SuperPhly_ | is there a pseudo package for a lot of the dev tools that i'll be needing |
| 04:07.56 | Wyzard | SuperPhly_: build-essential gives you the basics |
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| 04:08.51 | SuperPhly_ | gotcha, thanks |
| 04:08.51 | D3RGPS31 | proxytrack didn't work out :D |
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| 04:08.59 | mardi | hiya |
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| 04:10.31 | Thumpity | Hello, need to install gnu compiler, kernel build, and kernel headers, not sure what commands to use, any ideas? |
| 04:10.37 | Thumpity | thanks |
| 04:10.49 | gimpscape | hi |
| 04:10.49 | gimpscape | is there somehing wrong in using "user" as default user name? I mean I know it's lame, but could this be a security drawback? |
| 04:11.02 | Thumpity | tried apt-get install compiler or kernel-build or kernel-headers... no go |
| 04:11.11 | epsilon | packages vuild-essential, kernel source, kernel header |
| 04:11.36 | epsilon | *build-essential |
| 04:11.36 | Thumpity | great thanks |
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| 04:12.50 | epsilon | gimpscape: the name is just for the people sitting in front of the PC. internally all users are just a number between 100 and 2^16 |
| 04:12.55 | epsilon | *1000 |
| 04:13.34 | Thumpity | should there be a hypen between kernel and build? either way I get no package candidate for build and header? |
| 04:14.04 | Thumpity | any idea on what I am missing |
| 04:14.16 | epsilon | apt-cache search kernel source |
| 04:14.16 | Thumpity | thanks |
| 04:14.27 | Wyzard | Thumpity: The headers for the packaged kernels are in linux-headers-* packages |
| 04:14.36 | Thumpity | thanks |
| 04:14.36 | epsilon | search for package containing source and take the kernel you need |
| 04:15.18 | Wyzard | There are metapackages for headers (e.g. linux-headers-2.6-686) just like there are for the kernels themselves (e.g. linux-image-2.6-686) -- ideally you should install the headers metapackage that corresponds to your kernel metapackage, so you'll always have the latest headers when the kernel gets upgraded |
| 04:16.17 | Thumpity | search for kernel header meta package? |
| 04:16.59 | epsilon | Thumpity: what are you trying to do anyway? |
| 04:17.15 | Wyzard | thumbnail: What does "uname -r" say? |
| 04:17.15 | Thumpity | install Virtual box drivers on debian virtual machine |
| 04:17.30 | Thumpity | ran the script, told me to install these items |
| 04:18.03 | Thumpity | 2.6.26-1-686 |
| 04:18.30 | Wyzard | looks like you're running testing or unstable |
| 04:18.36 | Thumpity | unstable |
| 04:18.51 | newsense | klinux-headers-2.6.26-1-686 |
| 04:18.56 | Thumpity | installed lenny, updated to sid |
| 04:19.01 | Wyzard | You might be interested in the virtualbox-ose-guest-utils package |
| 04:19.13 | Thumpity | what about kernel build package? |
| 04:19.24 | Thumpity | is that in apt repo? |
| 04:19.37 | Thumpity | the virtualbox package I mean |
| 04:19.42 | Metatron | ive some how hosed my xorg.conf...i dpkg'ed xorg and ran is wizard but its still dead...is there some other util i can use that might straighten it out enough to boot? i can nano into xorg.conf gut dont see anything wrong |
| 04:19.51 | Wyzard | yes, and so is virtualbox-ose-guest-source |
| 04:20.13 | Wyzard | You can use that with module-assistant to build the vbox guest modules automatically, rather than running the generic manual script |
| 04:20.18 | Thumpity | great, I will look for those, thanks. |
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| 04:24.13 | digifor | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:25.02 | chris248 | hello |
| 04:25.11 | chris248 | greeting |
| 04:25.19 | zinx | gug |
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| 04:25.49 | Thumpity | Wyzard: thank you, I will check into the module-assistant |
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| 04:26.30 | Metatron | well i just renamed xorg.conf and it booted...must have made a new one |
| 04:27.17 | Wyzard | digifor: dist-upgrade, but pay attention to what's being upgraded before you press Y to continue |
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| 04:31.52 | digifor | thanks Wyzard |
| 04:31.52 | D3RGPS31 | Is there a web proxy cache that stores the data (and media) in a readable hierarchy (/dir/google.com/...) >.> (squid and polipo don't do the jobs) |
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| 04:36.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | Metatron, lenny xorg doesn't need an xorg.conf anymore |
| 04:36.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | it's all autodetect now |
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| 04:39.03 | Wyzard | It's needed in some cases, like to make xorg use the non-free nvidia driver rather than the free nv one |
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| 04:41.06 | enouf | \amethyst: maybe real late - but perhaps you were thinking of cdd? or simplecdd |
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| 04:45.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | hehe |
| 04:45.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | enouf, ^^ |
| 04:46.07 | Metatron | well it wont start with an xorg.conf now, ive been trying to get acceleration working and must have foobared something a module or glx library |
| 04:46.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | you got highlighted somewhere up there |
| 04:46.52 | Lifeform | Anyone in Australia here ? |
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| 04:48.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | Metatron, you can still have one, but by default xorg is trying to autodetect everything |
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| 04:51.41 | Wyzard | Metatron: Does it start with an empty or nonexistent xorg.conf? |
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| 04:57.59 | scientes | whyhow do i apt-cache search only installed packages? |
| 04:58.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | Wyzard, that's what he originally said |
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| 04:58.50 | forcesito | saluton |
| 04:59.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | <Metatron> well i just renamed xorg.conf and it booted...must have made a new one |
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| 05:00.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | forcesito, salutations and felicitations |
| 05:00.33 | forcesito | :P |
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| 05:01.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | and good night |
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| 05:03.11 | forcesito | here is very cold |
| 05:04.10 | D3RGPS31 | CutMyOwnThroat, do you think there's any package out there that i described? |
| 05:05.12 | djcip | hey - i have an turbo nslu2 - found out it can't really function all that well as a dynamic web server... so i was wondering if there was anything else i could do with it that's sort of nifty and useful |
| 05:05.19 | scientes | im trying to make an initrd inside of a chroot how do i specify the kernel? |
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| 05:07.07 | djcip | bbs |
| 05:08.56 | scientes | ahh that was stupid i just ahve to mount my modules flder in the chroot |
| 05:09.34 | enouf | CutMeOwnThroat: i know you explained something abpout someshit to me above concerning dtach, but it's incoherent to me atm :-P |
| 05:11.07 | enouf | scientes: modules fider? |
| 05:11.13 | scientes | folder |
| 05:11.28 | enouf | folder? what |
| 05:11.39 | enouf | ? |
| 05:11.45 | scientes | oh i was installing etch in ubuntu inside of a chroot |
| 05:11.50 | scientes | gonna try nfs root |
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| 05:12.42 | enouf | you should have done the inverse |
| 05:13.23 | scientes | ? |
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| 05:13.37 | stoned | thats just wrong |
| 05:13.37 | enouf | ... |
| 05:13.51 | Metatron | Wyzard sorry was tinkering, yes it starts with no xorg.config, just not with one, im just reinstalling |
| 05:13.58 | enouf | rigjht |
| 05:14.15 | scientes | WHAT |
| 05:14.21 | Wyzard | Metatron: That most likely just means you had something invalid in your xorg.conf |
| 05:14.27 | Wyzard | Metatron: That's hardly a reason to reinstall the whole system |
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| 05:14.40 | enouf | Metatron: er xorg.conf? |
| 05:14.49 | stoned | dude |
| 05:14.53 | stoned | I suck. |
| 05:15.23 | Metatron | more likely my chaning around mach64 drivers, and glx drivers killed it, i tried two backups and let xorg reconfigure twice it still wouldnt go |
| 05:15.28 | stoned | I just deleted some stuff on reisefs |
| 05:15.28 | enouf | nothing new ... but you don't always ;-) |
| 05:15.28 | stoned | :( |
| 05:15.34 | Metatron | yes .conf |
| 05:15.53 | enouf | stoned: i am reiserfs master :-P |
| 05:16.14 | Metatron | i didnt acutualy change anything but the dispaly depth in xorg, so id had do be my muddling aournd with libraries and kernel modules |
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| 05:16.33 | Metatron | its a pretty fresh install anyway |
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| 05:17.40 | Metatron | i had it so that v4l-conf detected /dev/video0 and xawtv would start, once, then xawtv hung when i told it browse all the channels and its been gone since |
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| 05:27.12 | enouf | Metatron: so ... you want to make use of every kind of proprietary crap and wintendo weenie functionality .. but use gnu/linux ? |
| 05:27.34 | liable | enouf: dont you sleep? :P |
| 05:28.59 | Metatron | i dont think i know what your talking about |
| 05:29.16 | Metatron | i would like my tv tuner to work, its on an old other wise junk system, that id like to breath life into |
| 05:29.32 | Metatron | maybe youd just like to buy me a new system? |
| 05:29.52 | Metatron | id rather not put windows98 ont it |
| 05:32.18 | liable | isnt the old rage card been supportedfor ages? |
| 05:33.02 | Lifeform | Anyone in Asia or Australia here ? |
| 05:33.15 | liable | Metatron: i would thunk it would pretty much just work these days |
| 05:33.19 | liable | Lifeform: yes, why? |
| 05:33.31 | Metatron | depends on what u mean by supported |
| 05:33.34 | Lifeform | Just need to trippel check the transfer rate on this file ==> http://72.3.253.20/100mb.bin |
| 05:33.40 | Metatron | it works, i get a dispaly and a desktop |
| 05:33.49 | Lifeform | brand new server in the US that we need to test properly before monday. |
| 05:33.54 | Metatron | but because of some security flaw, dri is disabled |
| 05:34.06 | Metatron | and the tv tuner stuff has to use a special dirver |
| 05:34.22 | Metatron | at least for this card |
| 05:34.39 | Lifeform | ..or else we´ll put the server in London. |
| 05:34.57 | liable | Metatron: what security flaw? |
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| 05:39.21 | Metatron | something about the cards memory being accesable, not got all the details other than dri is disabled by default because of it |
| 05:39.58 | Lifeform | liable: do you mind just testing that file for a min or so ? |
| 05:40.10 | liable | how is it disabled? who disabled it? show me the details |
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| 05:42.19 | liable | Lifeform: averages 300K/s on my connection |
| 05:42.57 | Lifeform | ok |
| 05:43.03 | Lifeform | excellent! |
| 05:43.03 | Lifeform | :D |
| 05:43.03 | Lifeform | finally |
| 05:43.32 | Lifeform | and you´re getting way slower on this one right... ==> http://de-nd-vhost1.rackcorp.com/100mbtest.bin |
| 05:43.37 | Lifeform | uhm |
| 05:43.43 | SuperPhly_ | man, why does debian make it so hard sometimes to do things? i wish some things would just work... |
| 05:44.05 | liable | SuperPhly_: because it hates you :) |
| 05:44.09 | Lifeform | this one ==> http://83.138.148.118/downloadtest.txt |
| 05:44.16 | SuperPhly_ | Ruby isn't compiled with openssl by default, now I have to compile ruby by hand |
| 05:44.16 | SuperPhly_ | ugh |
| 05:44.50 | liable | Lifeform: no 400K/s on that one |
| 05:44.58 | Wyzard | SuperPhly_: Isn't that something that'd be a library, not compiled into the interpreter itself? |
| 05:45.32 | SuperPhly_ | http://blog.johnjosephbachir.org/2007/11/19/building-ruby-with-openssl-on-debian/ <-- not according to this |
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| 05:45.43 | Wyzard | SuperPhly_: There's a libopenssl-ruby package |
| 05:46.08 | SuperPhly_ | doh! |
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| 05:48.25 | liable | Lifeform: dont /msg poeple without asking. its rude. |
| 05:49.01 | Lifeform | liable: ok, sorry. |
| 05:49.18 | Lifeform | 7 years of IRC now :p I apologize. |
| 05:49.23 | Metatron | At the moment, despite the fact that the client submitted buffers are checked and copied, a malicious client can change the buffer contents after the check/copy because _all_ buffers are mapped on client space. Therefore security can be compromised by using the Mach64 bus mastering abilities to read/write from/to system memory. |
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| 05:50.00 | liable | Lifeform: no offence, its just standard protocol as far as i'm concerned. |
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| 05:51.34 | Lifeform | liable: ok, i respect that |
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| 05:52.12 | Lifeform | thank you for your help liable! 300 KByte is fast enough. |
| 05:52.53 | liable | Lifeform: np, i gotta go anyway, gardening work beckons. |
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| 05:54.32 | Lifeform | niice... gardening work ? |
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| 05:57.30 | scientes | if i turn off suid on a mount can a nfs mount of that still see the suid? |
| 05:58.48 | crunge | scientes: what has your experimentation shown? |
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| 06:26.25 | jhambo__2 | I want to display my laptop video on a seperate monitor but nothing shows up when I hook it up? what do I do? |
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| 06:27.13 | brutus | How do I make bluetooth work on my lappie? |
| 06:27.30 | Guerin | aptitude search bluetooth |
| 06:27.38 | Guerin | install some packages |
| 06:27.40 | Guerin | configure them |
| 06:27.44 | Guerin | have a beer |
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| 06:32.15 | Lagbolt | jhambo__2, what video card you have? |
| 06:32.22 | buu | w/ 2 |
| 06:32.56 | Lagbolt | brutus, you use kde or gnome? or something else? |
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| 06:33.21 | brutus | Lagbolt, gnome |
| 06:33.56 | jhambo__2 | Lagbolt: "Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)" |
| 06:34.02 | Lagbolt | brutus, you will prob want to start with gnome-bluetooth |
| 06:34.23 | Lagbolt | jhambo__2, ah cool i have same chipset on my eeepc and it works so we should be able to help you out |
| 06:34.37 | Lagbolt | brutus, bluez-gnome as well i believe |
| 06:35.06 | Lagbolt | !tell brutus about bluetooth |
| 06:35.11 | brutus | Lagbolt, I have already installed these packages, and other packages too which I thought were required, but no luck :( |
| 06:35.22 | jhambo__2 | nice |
| 06:35.34 | jhambo__2 | running lenny here |
| 06:35.43 | Lagbolt | jhambo__2, now do you want dual extended monitor? external only? or clone? |
| 06:36.29 | jhambo__2 | external only would be fine. Whatever is the most simple |
| 06:36.35 | Lagbolt | jhambo__2, can you pastebin the output of the command "xrandr -q --verbose" |
| 06:37.01 | brutus | Lagbolt, I ran hidd --search and nothing turns up. Just "Searching..." and nothing else |
| 06:38.01 | Lagbolt | brutus, did you install bluez-gnome? you can start the gnome applet |
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| 06:39.41 | jhambo__2 | Lagbolt: http://paste.debian.net/23503/ |
| 06:39.43 | brutus | yeah I have installed that, but when I run hcitool dev, no devices are listed |
| 06:40.02 | brutus | Lagbolt, |
| 06:40.02 | Lagbolt | jhambo__2, ok no problem |
| 06:40.35 | Lagbolt | jhambo__2, try this . . "xrandr --output VGA --on --auto" |
| 06:41.03 | Lagbolt | that should turn it on, if it works you can turn off the LVDS, you can also do them both in one command. do a "man xrandr" there are examples at the bottom |
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| 06:41.24 | Assid | hi i am trying to install debian etch as a guest os in kvm |
| 06:41.40 | Lagbolt | brutus, there is a gnome-applet. it should allow pairing if you have bluez installed and the service running. do you get anything when you type "hciconfig" as root? |
| 06:41.42 | Assid | however, i cant seem to find the virtio netwrok hardware |
| 06:41.52 | Assid | is it registered under a different name? |
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| 06:42.55 | jhambo__2 | Lagbolt: nothing happens when I run that command... it just give me a list of the options... |
| 06:43.11 | Lagbolt | jhambo__2, sorry i must have an error let me double check |
| 06:43.16 | brutus | Lagbolt, No, nothing. How do I open this applet? I have already installed bluez-gnome and gnome-bluetooth. |
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| 06:44.20 | Lagbolt | jhambo__2, just do "xrandr --output VGA --mode 1024x768 --on" |
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| 06:44.58 | Lagbolt | brutus, no output from hciconfig? is the bluetooth adaptor plugged in and does it show up in lsusb assuming it is usb |
| 06:45.11 | jhambo__2 | Lagbolt: hmmmm just give be the list of options again. Do I need to be root?? |
| 06:45.21 | Lagbolt | jhambo__2, you shouldnt need to be root |
| 06:45.40 | Lagbolt | hang on i must have something wrong in the command |
| 06:46.22 | Lagbolt | oh my bad, no --on |
| 06:46.36 | Lagbolt | try "xrandr --output VGA --auto" |
| 06:46.47 | jhambo__2 | Lagbolt: boohoya. thanks I got it working. Used grandr. Your tip on xrandr helped . many thanks |
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| 06:47.01 | Lagbolt | jhambo__2, awesome! |
| 06:47.33 | brutus | Lagbolt, My bluetooth (on this lappie) is just a sliding switch with an LED changing from orange to blue when I turn it on. Now its turned on, and when I run lsusb my terminal just hangs- nothing shows up. |
| 06:47.35 | Lagbolt | jhambo__2, if you want to do an extended desktop you might have to set a virtual screen in xorg.conf but ifyo uare just using external or clone you should be fine |
| 06:47.49 | Lagbolt | brutus, it hangs on lsusb? |
| 06:47.58 | brutus | Lagbolt, yeah, and nothing with hciconfig |
| 06:48.23 | Lagbolt | brutus, what type of laptop is that? well hciconfig wont work if the device is not found. when you turn on bluetooth do you get any messages in "dmesg" |
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| 06:50.48 | brutus | It's an HP laptop, which came preloaded with vista. When I turned bluetooth on, there was an extra line in dmesg saying "new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3" |
| 06:50.52 | brutus | Lagbolt, |
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| 06:51.31 | Lagbolt | brutus, what if you "lsmod | grep bluetooth". . . get anything? |
| 06:52.22 | brutus | yeah, i get : "bluetooth 57060 4 hidp,hci_usb,rfcomm,l2cap" |
| 06:52.52 | brutus | Lagbolt, |
| 06:53.17 | Lagbolt | brutus, turn on the bluetooth, then "rmmod bluetooth" then "modprobe bluetooth" and see if you get more in "dmesg" it should say more than just new usb device |
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| 06:53.41 | d-b | /etc/init.d/bluetooth start |
| 06:53.49 | d-b | you might need the service |
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| 06:54.51 | Lagbolt | d-b, this is true, but udev should prob still identify his device as bluetooth, it did load the modules i guess. so maybe. |
| 06:55.43 | d-b | Lagbolt: i'm guessing he needs to enable the service. brutus what happens if you go hcitool scan ? |
| 06:55.44 | brutus | Lagbolt, when bluetooth is turned on, rmmod bluetooth gives an error saying "Module bluetooth is in use by hidp,hci_usb,rfcomm,l2cap" |
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| 06:56.21 | brutus | d-b, "Device is not available: no such device" |
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| 06:58.21 | d-b | brutus: well there you go -> you have a bluetooth detected device but the service probably isn't on |
| 06:58.31 | d-b | try /etc/init.d/bluetooth start and do it again |
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| 07:00.33 | brutus | d-b, No luck, gives the same error. |
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| 07:02.30 | d-b | damn. |
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| 07:03.54 | the_plumber | trying to get a secure, official copy of 3.1r0, can anyone suggest a jigdo archive? |
| 07:03.57 | brutus | d-b, Is this a known bug, like the hibernation problem with laptops or am I missing something here... |
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| 07:04.28 | d-b | brutus: i don't know .. i will have to read above -> what is your exact problem |
| 07:05.13 | the_plumber | !jigdo |
| 07:05.14 | dpkg | methinks jigdo is *the* method for downloading CD/DVD/BD images of Debian. at http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/ or http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Debian-Jigdo/index.html |
| 07:06.24 | brutus | d-b, Well, my bluetooth works fine on vista, and I've been trying hard to make it work on linux too. I've installed every possible package too concerning bluetooth, AFAIK, but it just won't work. |
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| 07:06.48 | jberg- | whats the "best" live cd these days? |
| 07:06.54 | jberg- | knoppix? |
| 07:07.07 | Gigantic | define "best" |
| 07:07.26 | brutus | d-b, System->Preferences-Bluetooth Preferences doesn't show any available services too. |
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| 07:07.46 | Gigantic | but I am guessing for you... yes, Knoppix |
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| 07:08.22 | Gigantic | anyone know a good safe non expensive data bank out there? |
| 07:08.30 | jberg- | i don't know, has the tools you need, not to big, easy etc |
| 07:08.44 | d-b | mmmm brutus ok. |
| 07:09.10 | d-b | well. it might be your hardware isn't supported. but the fact you have the modules loaded suggests otherwise. |
| 07:09.25 | d-b | did you run -> as root /etc/init.d/bluetooth start ? |
| 07:10.04 | Gigantic | jberg-: Knoppix is the most complete but it is big |
| 07:10.19 | Gigantic | depends what you need, again |
| 07:10.35 | brutus | d-b, Yeah I did, and it ran fine without complaining.... |
| 07:11.00 | Gigantic | you could just make your own from DSL or Knoppix and add or remove stuf as you need |
| 07:11.26 | D3RGPS31 | Is there something like Squid, but uses site names as sub directories, and mirrors all files a user sees? >.> |
| 07:11.30 | d-b | and then when you tried hcitool scan -> you got the same error -> devices is not available |
| 07:11.36 | ConSi | hi :] |
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| 07:11.38 | Gigantic | did you edit the bluetooth.conf under /etc? |
| 07:12.03 | brutus | d-b, Yeah the same thing sprung up. |
| 07:12.26 | d-b | did you do that as root ? |
| 07:12.40 | Gigantic | bluez drivers are universal |
| 07:12.53 | Gigantic | but some cards may need the firmware |
| 07:13.06 | brutus | d-b, Yeah I'm running everything as root now... |
| 07:13.15 | brutus | Gigantic, you mean /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf ? |
| 07:14.04 | Gigantic | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:14.41 | Gigantic | likely you just need main.conf |
| 07:14.42 | Lagbolt | brutus, when i plug in my usb bluetooth i can run hciconfig and it shows my device and the mac addy of it. you shouldnt need to edit any /etc files. |
| 07:15.38 | Gigantic | I did |
| 07:15.48 | brutus | Gigantic, I have in /etc/bluetooth/ just the 3 files hcid.conf network.service and serial.service |
| 07:15.59 | brutus | and in hcid.conf I have no clue what and how to edit |
| 07:16.00 | Lagbolt | you did? edit them? you shouldnt need to tho to at least see that the device it there |
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| 07:16.16 | brutus | I haven't touched that file yet |
| 07:16.40 | Gigantic | I just edited main.conf to enable and disable some services... |
| 07:16.45 | Lagbolt | brutus, what does "hcitool dev" return? |
| 07:17.10 | brutus | Lagbolt, Devices: <nothing> |
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| 07:18.09 | Lagbolt | brutus, yeah your problem is def related to the usb device. maybe reloading the modules will help |
| 07:18.12 | Gigantic | hwinfo usb | grep blue |
| 07:18.31 | Lagbolt | brutus, /etc/init.d/bluetooth stop; rmmod rfcomm l2cap hci_usb ; rmmod bluetooth |
| 07:18.35 | Gigantic | if cmd not found, apt-get install hwinfo |
| 07:18.46 | brutus | Gigantic, my /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf file is here: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d2079b578 |
| 07:19.04 | the_plumber | where are the older distributions at? are there any archives someone knows of that i can use jigdo with? |
| 07:19.18 | Gigantic | brutus: well it is not even being detected... |
| 07:20.26 | Lagbolt | that is what i have been saying. you have to make sure device is there before you worry about services |
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| 07:20.49 | brutus | Lagbolt, the rmmod command gives errors again hci_usb, hidp in use..... |
| 07:21.05 | Lagbolt | brutus, did you stop the bluetooth service? |
| 07:21.14 | Lagbolt | you have to remove the modules in the proper order to get them to come out |
| 07:21.16 | brutus | Lagbolt, yeah I did that, then rmmod |
| 07:21.51 | Gigantic | modprobe rfcomm bnep sco l2cap hci_usb btusb |
| 07:22.03 | Lagbolt | brutus, turn off the bluetooth before rmmod |
| 07:22.11 | Gigantic | i dunno what the sco module is but it is loaded for my bluez here :p |
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| 07:22.36 | brutus | Lagbolt, Gigantic, I think I have the hardware, because hwinfo | grep blue gives this: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d7ab447 |
| 07:26.38 | brutus | Gigantic, it gives a fatal error, and says that the last five- bnep, sco, l2cap, hci_usb, btsub, are "unknown parameters" |
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| 07:28.57 | vedant | Hi, how do I beep my motherboard speaker through the command line? |
| 07:29.10 | Gigantic | beep |
| 07:29.20 | liable | !beep |
| 07:29.20 | dpkg | methinks beep is /exec -o echo -ne '\a'. A generic application level transport, with multiple channels over TCP and a nice standard auth section + many other goodies, see www.beepcore.org for more info, or apt-get install beep, or a buggy xmms gtk2 port, or see <bell> |
| 07:29.48 | liable | hmm, thats silly |
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| 07:29.58 | Gigantic | brutus: one by one |
| 07:30.10 | liable | why do it from your irc client.. |
| 07:30.11 | Gigantic | !mic mic |
| 07:30.23 | hoxu | liable, also, -o is "output" (to active window) :p |
| 07:30.30 | hoxu | liable, I'll fix the factoid |
| 07:30.42 | Gigantic | motheroard beep is the worst idea after the UPS beep |
| 07:31.07 | liable | !beer hoxu |
| 07:31.07 | dpkg | deftly decants a fine Gulden Drak for hoxu |
| 07:31.56 | Gigantic | brutus: well looks like the hw is detected btu dunno if well installed |
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| 07:32.15 | Gigantic | !kill |
| 07:32.46 | Gigantic | if that doesn't help me dunnno |
| 07:32.49 | Gigantic | !cry |
| 07:32.49 | dpkg | sulks quietly |
| 07:33.11 | brutus | Gigantic, well I tried one by one till I reached hci_usb, when it hung. |
| 07:33.38 | Gigantic | uhm you had that one already |
| 07:34.04 | Gigantic | now unplug and replug the dongle |
| 07:34.51 | brutus | Gigantic, its a switch, and I turned it off and on again. |
| 07:35.22 | Gigantic | ooooooooooooh |
| 07:35.22 | brutus | Gigantic, My wireless and bluetooth work from the same switch... |
| 07:35.56 | brutus | atleast in vista when I turn it on, both bluetooth and wireless net are turned on... |
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| 07:40.25 | Gigantic | reboot and reinstall Vista |
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| 07:40.31 | Gigantic | laterz |
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| 07:41.53 | brutus | :D |
| 07:42.57 | hoxu | !next |
| 07:42.57 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building |
| 07:52.01 | LoveGuru | Hello, Any Help with LAMP server? i m new and wan't to install LAMP, with Configuration.. Appriciate All Help. Thanks. |
| 07:52.26 | simonrvn | just ask the question... |
| 07:52.36 | simonrvn | ignores the 'typos' |
| 07:52.39 | liable | or just install the packages.. |
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| 07:53.04 | LoveGuru | simonrvn: i think i typed there? "wan't to install LAMP, with Configuration.. " |
| 07:53.13 | liable | who the fuck thought up lamp? just install what you need.. |
| 07:53.55 | LoveGuru | liable: there is no problem to install anything. the main/hard step is to configured.. |
| 07:54.22 | LoveGuru | it take long.. and if u are not familiar .. then u can't do anything. |
| 07:54.31 | liable | LoveGuru: there are tons of apache tutriols out there. likewise for just about anything you need to configure |
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| 07:55.03 | DanDare | well, I made a script containing 'export LC_TIME=pt_BR.ISO-8859-1' into /etc/init.d/ and added to init with update-rc.d but it fails at boot time. Some clue ? |
| 07:55.08 | simonrvn_ | be easier to just install the packages ; and RTFM ;) |
| 07:55.29 | liable | LoveGuru: we dont do hand holding of people setting up servers here. its a discussion channel for the problems you may have with debian packages. |
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| 07:55.33 | simonrvn_ | DanDare: why? why not just add it to ~/.bash_profile ? |
| 07:55.51 | LoveGuru | liable: i m trying to make a complete debian machine .. like hosting companys. i wan't users can access my system, depend on permissions they can use whatever i just allowed. |
| 07:56.14 | DanDare | simonrvn_, ok. But what if im using it to displa correctly my webpage ? So how to have LC_TIME as i want ? |
| 07:56.16 | simonrvn_ | "want"; it's not a contraction. |
| 07:56.20 | LoveGuru | liable: i won't say that i need help to making a server.. u getting me wrong. |
| 07:56.44 | liable | LoveGuru: probably, what exactly are you wanting information on? |
| 07:56.50 | LoveGuru | simonrvn: but i didn't say i need/want all help to making server. |
| 07:57.04 | simonrvn_ | !wayttd DanDare |
| 07:57.04 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, DanDare? |
| 07:57.06 | LoveGuru | liable: apache/mysql |
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| 07:57.25 | LoveGuru | and php too for myphpadmin. i think. |
| 07:57.44 | LoveGuru | as i said i m new i m not familiar with things.. trying to learn myself. and with all forums/irc channel helps. |
| 07:57.45 | DanDare | simonrvn_, im trying to have LC_TIME=pt_BR.ISO-8859-1 at boot time for hole system, not a particular user. |
| 07:57.53 | simonrvn_ | install 'em... um, the p can stand for php ... |
| 07:58.13 | simonrvn_ | DanDare: /etc/environment; /etc/profile; dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 07:58.44 | liable | LoveGuru: have you installed the packages? |
| 07:59.10 | simonrvn_ | !lamp |
| 07:59.10 | dpkg | it has been said that lamp is Linux, Apache, MySQL, {PHP,Perl,Python} server (or see http://wiki.debian.org/LaMp) or maybe Linux Animation and Movie Player, at http://pauillac.inria.fr/lamp/ Ask me about <install debian><install apache2><install mysql><install php>. (Hmm... doesn't that make it a DAMP stack?), or "aptitude install libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server php5-mysql ; a2enmod php5" |
| 07:59.17 | LoveGuru | liable: well not right now.. Thats what i wan't to know which packages should i have to install.? |
| 07:59.18 | DanDare | simonrvn_ Thanks |
| 07:59.30 | LoveGuru | i just have some knowledge of apache |
| 07:59.43 | simonrvn_ | LoveGuru: ^^^ |
| 07:59.44 | liable | LoveGuru: see above ^^ what dpkg said |
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| 07:59.52 | Drezard | how do i install zlib.h? |
| 07:59.59 | LoveGuru | !install mysql |
| 07:59.59 | dpkg | To install the mysql server, "aptitude install mysql-server". You might also want to "aptitude install php5-mysql" and ask me about <install apache2><install php>. Also check out the phpmyadmin package. |
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| 08:00.11 | Drezard | im trying to build a custom kernel and it says it doesnt have zlib.h? |
| 08:00.12 | LoveGuru | ahh |
| 08:00.14 | LoveGuru | phpmyadmin |
| 08:00.17 | LoveGuru | grr |
| 08:00.17 | simonrvn_ | Drezard: install the -dev package for zlib |
| 08:00.48 | Drezard | simonrvn_ how do i do that? |
| 08:01.00 | LoveGuru | liable: is there guide to tuneup those packages? or do i ihave to check the conf's myself? |
| 08:01.12 | simonrvn_ | !tell Drezard -about apt |
| 08:01.18 | simonrvn_ | !tell Drezard -about search |
| 08:01.42 | Drezard | simonrvn_, apt-cache search zlib has no libzlib-dev package or such |
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| 08:02.40 | simonrvn_ | zlib1g-dev - compression library - development |
| 08:02.46 | simonrvn_ | wow, that was so hard |
| 08:03.15 | Drezard | simonrvn_ thanks :) |
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| 08:04.11 | LoveGuru | !phpmyadmin |
| 08:04.12 | dpkg | phpmyadmin is, like, a tool written in PHP intended to handle the administration of MySQL over the Internet. Currently it can create and drop databases, create/drop/alter tables, delete/edit/add fields, execute any SQL statement, and manage keys on fields. http://www.phpmyadmin.net/documentation/#faq |
| 08:04.35 | LoveGuru | ahh documentation |
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| 08:05.38 | simonrvn_ | Drezard: apt-cache can take more than one term |
| 08:05.52 | Drezard | simonrvn_, thanks :) |
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| 08:06.00 | simonrvn_ | catsup: why are you telling the bot to tell me that? |
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| 08:09.09 | simonrvn_ | ass |
| 08:14.20 | omry | how do I install a debug version of a package? |
| 08:14.30 | omry | (with debug symbols etc) |
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| 08:14.49 | simonrvn | if it's got one, you install it. |
| 08:15.08 | omry | will it show up in apt-cache? |
| 08:15.36 | simonrvn | of course |
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| 08:16.59 | omry | okay, so assuming it does not have a debug version (libapache2-mod-wsgi), what can I do |
| 08:17.00 | omry | ? |
| 08:17.24 | omry | I mean, I can build it myself, no problem, but is there some generic apt magic that always work to get a debug package out of a source package? |
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| 08:19.07 | vedant | liable, Gigantic: oops, I forgot to look back at the irc window. Thanks for replying. |
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| 08:22.39 | simonrvn | omry: it's not magic, it's a specific build that doesn't remove the extra symbols from binaries. |
| 08:22.53 | simonrvn | it's built as a part of the package build. |
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| 08:24.28 | FILLVAIO2 | Hi folks! How can i kill process in list [netstat -n] ? |
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| 08:25.05 | hoxu | FILLVAIO2, "kill" |
| 08:25.21 | FILLVAIO2 | but how can i know pid of this connecton? |
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| 08:26.04 | hoxu | FILLVAIO2, netstat -np |
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| 08:27.18 | vedant | hi, beep isn't beeping the system speaker. How do I make it beep? |
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| 08:28.09 | FILLVAIO2 | change it |
| 08:28.33 | omry | simonrvn, I built the source package by using ./configure && make, and it looks like the resulting lib is not stripped. does the dpkg-build strip it? |
| 08:28.38 | omry | (when creating a deb) |
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| 08:29.23 | simonrvn | by default yes, you have to explicitly tell it not to, hence the -dbg packages |
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| 08:30.00 | omry | simonrvn, okay. this is what I meant by "generic apt magic".. |
| 08:30.22 | omry | how do I get it to build a debug deb? |
| 08:30.23 | giantrobot | im needing to build a softvpn, i.e. client to server, dialup... can someone recomend a package or starting point for me |
| 08:30.33 | simonrvn | man dh_strip |
| 08:31.53 | omry | simonrvn, I guess that just copying the unstripped .so over the package's one will do the trick, right? |
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| 08:33.41 | giantrobot | any network guys in here that can make a recommendation on client to server vpn, im familar with ipsec, isakmp, just not sure what package to look at |
| 08:33.44 | mr_flea | Is there a package for Python 3? I can't seem to find one... |
| 08:34.47 | simonrvn | omry: backup first |
| 08:35.03 | simonrvn | mr_flea: very much doubt it |
| 08:41.40 | Drezard | compiled a kernel but now Im getting "[0.728072] Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) |
| 08:41.41 | Drezard | " |
| 08:41.54 | Drezard | anyway to just download a .deb package with a good NEW kernel in it? |
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| 08:44.56 | simonrvn | yes |
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| 08:52.29 | kantor | hi |
| 08:52.30 | syslq | ls -laR | grep "*rc" <-- this should list all my user config files, why the hell doesnt it? |
| 08:52.30 | kantor | hi, could somebody tell me a GUI front end the the gdb program (but not xxgdb) ? |
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| 08:57.49 | mr_flea | simonrvn: (must belatedly) Thanks. |
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| 09:01.53 | \amethyst | kantor: ddd |
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| 09:02.30 | kantor | I installed ddd, but there is no functionality to show the registers |
| 09:02.33 | kantor | only the asm code |
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| 09:04.01 | \amethyst | kantor: Status -> Registers |
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| 09:05.12 | kantor | \amethyst, yes you are right ! thanks !! |
| 09:05.20 | Lagbolt | anyone know a nice webpage talking about usb autosusepend and how to turn it on and off? |
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| 09:18.11 | jhambo_ | I'm on lenny using kwifimanager. My connection get dropped several times a day. After the connection is dropped, the only way I can get it back is to restart the computer. recommendations? |
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| 09:21.46 | simonrvn | get a better wifi card? |
| 09:22.42 | jhambo_ | simonrvn: it's built into an acer aspire one... |
| 09:22.49 | codingrobot | ... or try the latest wifi drivers (if you are not already using them) |
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| 09:23.30 | simonrvn | was being facetious ;) |
| 09:23.31 | codingrobot | jhambo_: get and build compat-wireless. there are some fixes there for the atheros cards |
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| 09:25.02 | jhambo_ | codingrobot: I'm using madwifi "Version: 1:0.9.4+r3685.20080531+dfsg-1" from lenny. compat-wireless? |
| 09:26.07 | jhambo_ | codingrobot: do I need to uninstall madwifi |
| 09:27.27 | codingrobot | try ath5k, thats the new atheros driver |
| 09:28.04 | ameyer | but it may not support his chipset |
| 09:28.06 | codingrobot | which kernel ver. do you have ? |
| 09:29.21 | codingrobot | afaik the aspire one has 2425 chip and its supported by the latest ath5k |
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| 09:31.40 | ameyer | but it's also not in kernel versions prior to 2.6.27, I think |
| 09:31.53 | ameyer | and sid doesn't even have 2.6.27 yet |
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| 09:32.41 | codingrobot | probably.. thatswhy he can get compat-wireless and build the latest modules for his kernel. |
| 09:32.56 | Gigantic | lol this is weird... I have been wondering why my apcupsd isn't working... and updating alsa fixed it |
| 09:33.06 | Gigantic | where the H is the relation? o.O |
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| 09:33.32 | Gigantic | next time I upgrade my kernel maybe y car will fix by itself too |
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| 09:34.13 | Gigantic | s/y/my |
| 09:34.26 | syslq | Gigantic: what's wrong with your car? |
| 09:34.37 | ameyer | ok, first, sed would spit that back at you |
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| 09:35.26 | syslq | Guys what is proper backup tool to use on linux system. Is tar + rysnc as cronjob ok? |
| 09:35.58 | ameyer | second, "next time I upgrade mmy kernel maybe y car will fix by itself too"? |
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| 09:37.58 | ameyer | ok, I must really need sleep if I'm criticizing someone else's sed-fu |
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| 09:41.32 | Gigantic | syslq: just saying |
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| 09:49.49 | syslq | Gigantic: cars are my hobby. Especially auto electrics+car pc's |
| 09:50.14 | syslq | Gigantic: and motorcycle restoration but I dont ride them, it's way too risky here :), full of maniac drivers |
| 09:51.46 | Gigantic | syslq: I've heard plutonium powered DeLorean are da best tho |
| 09:52.34 | syslq | Gigantic: hehe, I actually like Russian LADA niva terrain the most but it wastes way too much gas :) |
| 09:53.14 | syslq | Gigantic: it has unix philosophy, it's robust and does one thing and does it well :) |
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| 09:54.06 | Gigantic | syslq: But LADAs can't break the timespace and take you to the future |
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| 09:55.44 | Ahtenus | I got an DLW-G650 wireless card, i have installed madwifi (which supports my card) but i doesn't work anyway, i can't see any networks and i can't connect to one either by entering the name. So what shuld i do? |
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| 09:57.09 | predder | I've got a process started from an xterm that I'd like to move to init so I can close the xterm, is that possible? |
| 09:57.31 | Gigantic | syslq: and I like nitrogen |
| 09:57.35 | codingrobot | Ahtenus: have you tried ath5k ? |
| 09:57.47 | Ahtenus | no ? |
| 09:58.09 | Gigantic | and Maseratis :P |
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| 09:59.05 | codingrobot | try it, this is the new module for ath. cards |
| 09:59.23 | Ahtenus | Ok I'll do that |
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| 10:04.06 | Ahtenus | codingrobot, so how do i get it? |
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| 10:05.26 | codingrobot | Ahtenus: linuxwireless.org |
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| 10:21.00 | Supaplex | gnaws on an iceweasel issue on a lenny box humm... |
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| 10:22.14 | simonrvn | gives Supaplex a bone to gnaw on instead "better for your teeth, more calcium too!" |
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| 10:22.48 | cahoot | lots of cadmium in weasels |
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| 10:25.10 | simonrvn | mmmm cadmium |
| 10:25.22 | ConSi | ;P |
| 10:26.29 | xingu | hands simonrvn a glass and a half of cadmium milk chocolate |
| 10:26.47 | simonrvn | dat iz teh nomnom |
| 10:27.35 | Supaplex | [1]+ Segmentation fault iceweasel -no-remote -p x86 |
| 10:27.42 | Supaplex | grrr. time to call in gdb. :p |
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| 10:28.46 | Eulex | Supaplex, just make sure you have iceweasel-dbg installed |
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| 10:29.24 | Supaplex | it is |
| 10:29.27 | Supaplex | thanks :) |
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| 10:31.35 | simonrvn | catchsegv |
| 10:31.38 | vladuz976 | hi, where can I find boot messages logged? i see some failed messages scrolling by at boot, but it's toofast |
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| 10:31.54 | simonrvn | view your dmesg to start |
| 10:32.04 | ConSi | vladuz976: /var/log/messages |
| 10:32.08 | ConSi | vladuz976: /var/log/kern.log |
| 10:32.12 | ConSi | vladuz976: /var/log/debug.log |
| 10:32.14 | ConSi | ;p |
| 10:32.17 | xingu | vladuz976: also try /var/log/dmesg |
| 10:32.19 | simonrvn | syslog too |
| 10:32.21 | Supaplex | bleh. Cannot find user-level thread for LWP 21363: generic error |
| 10:32.22 | ConSi | vladuz976: and dmesg |
| 10:32.23 | ConSi | :) |
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| 10:33.02 | Supaplex | what's catchsegv? |
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| 10:33.13 | simonrvn | run iceweasel with it and see |
| 10:33.16 | Supaplex | I might know, but I'm sooo sleepy. bed looks very tempting. |
| 10:33.30 | Supaplex | oh! ok. |
| 10:33.37 | xingu | generic error, the best sort |
| 10:33.40 | vladuz976 | ConSi: xingu: thanks, but cannot find anything about dbus in there |
| 10:33.48 | vladuz976 | that was what the error was about |
| 10:34.01 | simonrvn | dbus doesn't log by default, IIRC |
| 10:34.01 | xingu | vladuz976: bootlogd, but do read the README about root password disclosure. |
| 10:34.25 | xingu | gah, where did bootlogd get to |
| 10:34.29 | xingu | or did I imagine it |
| 10:34.30 | Bert_2 | Where can I find php.ini in debian ? |
| 10:34.30 | Supaplex | great. now what? :P supaplex@x86:~$ catchsegv iceweasel -no-remote -p x86 |
| 10:34.30 | Supaplex | *** Segmentation fault |
| 10:34.47 | vladuz976 | xingu: thanks |
| 10:34.51 | simonrvn | it's supposed to spit out a bunch of stuff next |
| 10:35.04 | Supaplex | well it didn't. |
| 10:35.09 | Supaplex | hears his pillow calling |
| 10:35.11 | simonrvn | ...or is that your entire output? |
| 10:35.18 | Supaplex | yup. |
| 10:35.26 | simonrvn | oh my. yes. leave it until sleep has passed. |
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| 10:36.18 | Supaplex | http://rafb.net/p/Cgv6Gp65.html hehehe. okay. |
| 10:36.57 | haqe43 | Hey, im trying to get slime working in emacs, but im getting a connection refused error with M-X slime-connect |
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| 10:37.07 | simonrvn | h/w issue? (RAM...) |
| 10:37.40 | simonrvn | haqe43: sounds like you have to start some sort of server |
| 10:37.47 | Supaplex | I think it's more related to "vserver". my x86 guest is i386, but the build identifier is making me question wtf. |
| 10:38.06 | simonrvn | ah ok |
| 10:38.12 | xingu | holy camelcase batman - /lib/libSegFault.so |
| 10:38.21 | simonrvn | yeh, hehe |
| 10:38.33 | Supaplex | Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686 (x86_64); en-US; rv:1.9.0.4) Gecko/2008112309 Iceweasel/3.0.4 (Debian-3.0.4-1) |
| 10:38.38 | simonrvn | sticks out at you in mc/ls =) |
| 10:38.38 | haqe43 | simonrvn: yes, when starting slime i get this error: searching for program: no such file or directory, lisp |
| 10:38.56 | Supaplex | is anyone running native x86, and have that same user agent for iceweasel3? |
| 10:39.12 | simonrvn | i'm running bare firefox3 |
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| 10:39.32 | xingu | simonrvn: it's totally possible that catchsegv is going to get thrown by the fact that "iceweasel" is itself shellscript |
| 10:39.39 | simonrvn | no _64 in the UA |
| 10:40.05 | simonrvn | did a pretty good job on flock, which runs like iceweasel |
| 10:40.24 | xingu | simonrvn: yeah but iceweasel takes some pains to sterilise preload from memory |
| 10:40.34 | Supaplex | humm. it might just be the build (dpkg-buildpackage ...) env, and not so much the system env. I tested all the binaries with file, and they're all 32bit. |
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| 10:40.51 | xingu | simonrvn: it's always been a huge pita for me every time I look into it, although admittedly it's now over two years since the last sneakypeak |
| 10:41.02 | simonrvn | mm. true, it caches aggressively too |
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| 10:43.14 | Supaplex | 's eyeballs fall out of his head, plop on the floor, and runs off to the bedroom for ZzzzZzz |
| 10:43.40 | Supaplex | thanks guys. looks like EAGAIN for now. ;) |
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| 10:44.50 | dustybin | Bourne, Korn, Perl, PHP, C-Shell |
| 10:44.55 | dustybin | what is C-Shell? |
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| 10:45.02 | Asgaroth | dustybin: csh |
| 10:45.08 | dustybin | never heard of it |
| 10:45.32 | dustybin | Bourne = BASH ? |
| 10:45.34 | xingu | dustybin: ignorance in this case really is bliss |
| 10:45.56 | Asgaroth | How can I execute an arbitrary command on certain hal-event in a .fdi file? |
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| 10:47.28 | dustybin | can debian use 'Korn' ? |
| 10:48.45 | simonrvn | consider zsh instead. for your sanity. |
| 10:49.10 | simonrvn | Asgaroth: RTSL? |
| 10:50.17 | Asgaroth | simonrvn: Ok, If no one here knows it, I'll have no choice. |
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| 10:51.52 | simonrvn | hal is like WTFM? (Where's the F***ing Manual) hehe |
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| 10:53.11 | sylar | can anyone with etch check http://www.nvidia.com/page/products.html in epiphany vs firefox |
| 10:53.20 | nsadmin | Asgaroth: no... choice? of course you have a choice... you can either choose to read what's been written or get a human to (essentially) read it to you... |
| 10:53.45 | sylar | my epiphany rendering got bad |
| 10:53.57 | sylar | ? |
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| 10:54.48 | Asgaroth | nsadmin: I just thought someone might have done a similar thing before and thus wouldn't have to read it. If that's not the case it'd be quite a bad attitude to wait for someone to solve my problem in this case. |
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| 10:59.19 | nsadmin | Asgaroth: first off... there's three different things in your question; perhaps no one has done all three simultaneously... but maybe there are those that have done one |
| 11:01.52 | Asgaroth | nsadmin: Well the problem is actually just the last part: I know how to match the desired events in the fdi file, but just don't know how to execute an external command from there. |
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| 11:04.41 | zxxd | hi |
| 11:04.43 | zxxd | what generation is geforce FX 5200 ? same as radeon 9800 series no? |
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| 11:06.41 | nsadmin | if you don't find out here, try google |
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| 11:07.10 | nsadmin | if that doesnt' work, try, I dunno, maybe there's a #hardware on efnet |
| 11:07.36 | zxxd | thanks |
| 11:07.52 | simonrvn | or ##hardware on freenode |
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| 11:09.56 | Asgaroth | would ##hardware really be the place to ask such a hal-specific question? |
| 11:10.29 | nsadmin | what's hal most closely related to? |
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| 11:12.24 | Asgaroth | Yes of course, but I figured that this channel would be more appropriate for real hardware issues, while this clearly is a software question. |
| 11:12.25 | Zvpun | What is the Debian way of changing totem to always start with --no-existing-session? |
| 11:12.52 | nsadmin | so hal also has to do with software... which software? |
| 11:13.52 | hoxu | Zvpun, where are you starting it from, commandline or desktop menus? |
| 11:14.14 | Asgaroth | nsadmin: No, my problem is with the software part of hal, not any hardware device. |
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| 11:15.28 | nsadmin | hal as a software entity is closest to what other software entity? |
| 11:16.34 | Asgaroth | dbus. |
| 11:16.46 | Agiofws | hi |
| 11:16.50 | nsadmin | which is part of what? |
| 11:16.55 | Agiofws | can someone help me fix phpmyadmin panel i'm not getting the web inetface at all and it was working a day or 2 ago ? |
| 11:17.08 | Agiofws | i used the debian apache2 wiki |
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| 11:17.14 | Agiofws | but i cant login |
| 11:17.47 | Agiofws | www.imagebin.org/33514 |
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| 11:19.36 | nsadmin | Asgaroth in what source distribution would you find hal? |
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| 11:20.06 | Zvpun | hoxu: I start totem by double clicking movies. |
| 11:20.50 | hoxu | Zvpun, hrmh, try seeing if totem has some way to set default settings, other than commandline parameters |
| 11:20.58 | Zvpun | it has not |
| 11:21.26 | hoxu | file a wishlist bug? |
| 11:22.03 | Asgaroth | nsadmin: I already found the hal sources and am searching for a clue there. |
| 11:22.18 | Zvpun | if I had found such an option I would not have asked, so I suppose there is none. |
| 11:22.20 | gizmo-- | does iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT -to-destination private_web_server_ip:80 is enough to exposes a web server outside ? |
| 11:22.34 | Zvpun | hoxu: ok, and what can I do for a workaround now? |
| 11:22.42 | nsadmin | and they were a part of what major source? the -kernel- maybe? |
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| 11:24.16 | hoxu | Zvpun, depends on your desktop environment I guess - see if you can provide a custom command for "open with..." or similar |
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| 11:25.13 | Asgaroth | nsadmin: ok, ok. I'll go ask in ##hardware if I don't find a solution myself soon. |
| 11:25.50 | nsadmin | talk about needing a hammer to pull teeth... |
| 11:26.39 | nsadmin | the point was, that hal is a layer between hardware and what? the -kernel- which is the software entity that supports hardware |
| 11:26.43 | nsadmin | so, |
| 11:28.04 | themill | Have you read the package description for hal? |
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| 11:29.48 | nsadmin | other than the effort you're placing in looking thru the sources, there are two irc channels you can try... one (as mentioned) #hardware (but truthfully that answer was originally for a different ircer; that it applies to you is somewhat coincidental)... the other would be irc channels associated with the linux kernel |
| 11:31.11 | Zvpun | What's the different between totem-xine and totem-gstreamer? |
| 11:31.32 | sylar | can anyone with etch check http://www.nvidia.com/page/products.html in epiphany vs firefox? |
| 11:32.17 | Asgaroth | ah. I found an alternate solution using udev that's sufficient for my problem. |
| 11:36.02 | predder | I've got an xterm that's locked up containing a subprocess I'd really like to keep running. If I kill the parent will init catch it as a child? |
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| 11:38.15 | rio | hi, how to stop apt-cross using the /etc/apt/sources.list and just replacing the suite? |
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| 11:39.07 | hoxu | predder, you should start everything long-running that you want to keep alive in a screen |
| 11:39.16 | rio | i use -S etch and -m http://ftp.../debian, but apt-cross still uses the hosts sources.list replacing mysuite with etch |
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| 11:40.05 | predder | hoxu: that's a good tip, I regret not doing that now =\ |
| 11:40.28 | predder | I'm processing a dump of wikipedia, it's been running for 2 days and it's about half way |
| 11:40.35 | predder | when my konsole instance locked up |
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| 11:41.06 | cahoot | sylar: looks definitely off in epiphany (lenny) |
| 11:41.23 | hoxu | predder, hmm, someone might have ideas... |
| 11:42.02 | sylar | cahoot, off=wrong? |
| 11:42.31 | sylar | cahoot, version? |
| 11:44.13 | cahoot | sylar: somewhat distorted fonts - ok after a small config |
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| 11:47.04 | cahoot | sylar: epiphany webkit 2.22.3 |
| 11:47.54 | pingouin | where i'm suppose add a rule for udev ? |
| 11:48.08 | pingouin | the local.rules file seems not to be read |
| 11:48.24 | pingouin | even after a /etc/init.d/udev restart or a reboot |
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| 11:50.21 | cusco | hi there |
| 11:50.32 | cusco | I have a doubt... |
| 11:51.04 | cusco | I can't understand why, I have had my eth0 iface with a static ip address assigned in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 11:51.34 | cusco | and now eth0 never connects, I don't understad what changed |
| 11:51.34 | cusco | if I run dhclient eth0, it connects |
| 11:52.08 | hoxu | cusco, you clearly need to use DHCP, not static ip address |
| 11:52.28 | cusco | hoxu: but I always had a static ip address (from my router) |
| 11:52.36 | cusco | it has always worked |
| 11:52.42 | cusco | so I don't see why is it so clear now |
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| 11:53.29 | hoxu | cusco, you are having issues with your router, not debian :p |
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| 11:53.50 | cusco | nothing on the router has changed |
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| 11:54.51 | hoxu | well, maybe it's the earth's shifting magnetic fields then |
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| 11:57.14 | sylar | cahoot, http://tinysave.net/quick/viewer.php?id=401431epiphany2.GIF |
| 11:57.32 | sylar | cahoot, that is what i see |
| 11:58.18 | cahoot | sylar: heh - clean |
| 11:59.42 | sylar | is it not what you see? |
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| 12:00.07 | cusco | hoxu: that is not helpful at all |
| 12:00.11 | cahoot | sylar: no I see the same as in ff |
| 12:00.16 | cusco | any hints in debuging the cause? |
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| 12:01.18 | sylar | ok cahoot |
| 12:01.29 | hoxu | cusco, check your router config - what's the actual issue though? You are getting an IP with DHCP, what's wrong with that? |
| 12:01.34 | sylar | any one run etch? |
| 12:02.18 | hoxu | cusco, I'm assuming your router gets an IP from your ISP and then gives out NAT'd IPs to your computer(s) - whether those private IPs are assigned statically or via DHCP, I don't see a difference |
| 12:02.19 | cusco | hoxu: I never stated that there was something wrong with that |
| 12:02.46 | cusco | I don't intend to troll, so I will ask again later |
| 12:03.08 | hoxu | cusco, so you are going to come back asking help with a non-debian non-issue, great! :) |
| 12:03.22 | cusco | or it might be a debian issue |
| 12:03.33 | cusco | or even if it is not, debian might help me to debug the issue |
| 12:03.59 | hoxu | I thought you just said it's not an issue - and I told you to check the router config |
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| 12:04.30 | cusco | hoxu: I did check the router config. DHCP is not an issue, the static connection is |
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| 12:05.12 | cusco | and I did not check the router conf because *you* *told* me to |
| 12:06.56 | hoxu | cusco, are you getting a public dynamic IP from your ISP via DHCP? And you want to NAT that using your router, into private statically assigned IPs? |
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| 12:09.07 | kqr | if i want to keep up with the flash course in school, but not wine adobe flash, is there some kind of decent alternative? |
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| 12:14.47 | afoo | kqr, if you want to do as programming, there is fdt and flex and a few free compilers. |
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| 12:15.16 | afoo | kqr, if you want to click together silly anmation without actually writing all the code, I don't think there's a real alternative to adobe flash |
| 12:15.27 | kqr | hmm |
| 12:15.36 | kqr | i think coding would do |
| 12:15.38 | kqr | maybe |
| 12:15.46 | kqr | sounds like a cool approach to learn too |
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| 12:20.39 | morghanphoenix | Any ideas on how to get a Yamaha YMF-774B (DS-1S) sound card working with Debian Lenny minimal install. I've got the minimal + laptop from the CD and xorg + xserver-xorg + alsa-base + alsa-utils + alsa-oss installed from the repos. Am I missing something here? |
| 12:21.36 | cahoot | morghanphoenix: already run dpkg-reconfigure linux-sound-base? |
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| 12:23.10 | morghanphoenix | No, I was running m-a a-i alsa |
| 12:23.53 | cahoot | morghanphoenix: so run dpkg-reconfigure linux-sound-base? |
| 12:25.17 | morghanphoenix | still the same errors |
| 12:25.24 | cahoot | what errors? |
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| 12:25.51 | morghanphoenix | no such device; unknown PCM default cannot find card |
| 12:26.19 | cahoot | groups <user> say user is member of audio? |
| 12:26.42 | morghanphoenix | yup |
| 12:26.57 | cahoot | cat /proc/asound/cards |
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| 12:27.29 | morghanphoenix | card shows up in lspci, and alsaconf finds it with no problem. But the proc check gives no sound cards |
| 12:27.47 | cahoot | try (as root) alsa force-reload |
| 12:28.50 | morghanphoenix | unloaded snd-seq -timer -seq-device, reloaded them and then gave the same errors when I tried speaker-test |
| 12:29.30 | cahoot | morghanphoenix: OTOH I can't see why you would need install alsa modules specifically on a lenny kernel |
| 12:30.16 | morghanphoenix | supposed to be through udev on lenny, right? |
| 12:30.49 | morghanphoenix | and it loads them on boot, I watch it go by. |
| 12:30.50 | cahoot | morghanphoenix: alsa modules are already provide by modern kernels |
| 12:31.27 | morghanphoenix | alsactl fail on reboot to save state |
| 12:32.28 | cahoot | morghanphoenix: lsmod | grep snd_ymfpci (seems that's the module needed) |
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| 12:35.07 | morghanphoenix | Nothing comes up |
| 12:35.25 | cahoot | morghanphoenix: try modprobe snd_ymfpci |
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| 12:35.48 | morghanphoenix | nothing there either |
| 12:35.55 | cahoot | no error? |
| 12:36.01 | cahoot | cat /proc/asound/cards |
| 12:36.03 | morghanphoenix | nope |
| 12:36.51 | morghanphoenix | no soundcards again |
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| 12:37.34 | cahoot | try (as root) alsa force-reload |
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| 12:38.23 | morghanphoenix | how does debian handle default runlevel? I want it to load to a console and it's booting gdm. |
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| 12:38.39 | morghanphoenix | Firmware request failed: -2 |
| 12:38.39 | cahoot | !nodm |
| 12:38.40 | dpkg | Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the dm package(s) with "apt-get remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm pdm". "update-rc.d -f xdm remove" and friends will also disable the dm until a package update is installed and the runlevel symlinks are restored.. NEWSFLASH! echo "false" >/etc/X11/default-display-manager, or a temporary solution is to hit ctl-alt-fN to get to a console |
| 12:38.50 | morghanphoenix | yamaha/ds1_dsp.fw |
| 12:39.07 | cahoot | morghanphoenix: some progress then |
| 12:39.13 | Ancient | good day Quick question: I got debian on my laptop and it connects to the wireless ran router (thomson gateway) everything works fine but for some reason the laptop doesn't show up in either the "connected clients" list in the router nor is its hostname registered. Thanks for your help in advance |
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| 12:48.06 | cahoot | morghanphoenix: what kernel is this? |
| 12:48.56 | morghanphoenix | 2.6.26-1-686 |
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| 12:51.34 | Agiofws | hello |
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| 12:52.14 | nayte | hi all ;) |
| 12:52.22 | Agiofws | why when i install phpmyadmin i dont get a /var/www/phpmyadmin directory ? |
| 12:52.32 | Agiofws | www.imagebin.org/33521 |
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| 12:52.59 | morghanphoenix | hmm, is it just the alsa-firmware package that seems to have been removed fromthe debian repos? |
| 12:53.37 | GoldElite | Hey guys; I want to make my second drive bootable (for use in another system), but grub-install /dev/sdb fails with "Cannot find GRUB drive for /dev/sdb. Check your device map." Any idea what I'm doing wrong? |
| 12:53.54 | cahoot | morghanphoenix: I get the suspicion debian actively removes firmware blobs:http://www.fsfla.org/svn/fsfla/software/linux-libre/scripts/deblob-2.6.27 |
| 12:54.05 | abrotman | Agiofws: because that's not where it installs |
| 12:54.27 | nayte | hi, how can i avoid launching X at boot ? |
| 12:54.28 | Agiofws | ok where does it and why is it mot working ? |
| 12:54.34 | morghanphoenix | http://www.vlug.org/pipermail/discuss/2008-October/025708.html looks like a discussion on this very problemwith the samesound card |
| 12:54.44 | abrotman | Agiofws: dpkg -L |
| 12:54.48 | Agiofws | http://wiki.debian.org/LaMp i followed this guide .. |
| 12:55.28 | Agiofws | so do i create a soft link abrotman ? |
| 12:55.36 | Agiofws | to usr/share ? |
| 12:55.53 | abrotman | it has docs .. try reading them |
| 12:55.55 | Agiofws | /usr/share/phpmyadmin/ ? |
| 12:56.07 | cahoot | morghanphoenix: need this? alsa-firmware-loaders |
| 12:56.16 | Agiofws | i cant get this it worked 2 days ago |
| 12:56.38 | nayte | is there any file ton edit to avoid X to launch at boot ? |
| 12:57.25 | Agiofws | http://wiki.debian.org/LaMp following that wiki |
| 12:57.26 | Agiofws | but still |
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| 12:58.13 | morghanphoenix | yeah, just installed that, but I think I'm needing to compile the firmware package from alsa-project.org to get it working. |
| 12:58.25 | cahoot | seems so |
| 12:58.33 | mhymn_ | nayte: what display manager are you using? |
| 12:58.34 | morghanphoenix | grabbing the tarball with wget now |
| 12:58.44 | nayte | gnome |
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| 12:59.21 | nayte | i have a hard issue with my gc drivers, so i have to reset all |
| 12:59.33 | nayte | i need to cut off X |
| 12:59.56 | mhymn_ | nayte: remove the symlink in /etc/rc2.d/gdm |
| 13:00.08 | mhymn_ | !tell nayte about update-rc.d |
| 13:00.32 | Agiofws | abrotman, ... |
| 13:00.40 | abrotman | ... |
| 13:00.56 | Agiofws | it says nothing about linking to /usr/share/phpmyadmin/ from web root dir |
| 13:01.07 | morghanphoenix | Thanks for the help cahoot |
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| 13:01.11 | Agiofws | apt-get install phpmyadmin just says that basically |
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| 13:01.18 | Agiofws | but i have done that |
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| 13:01.38 | mhymn_ | nayte: well, it's actually 'S99gdm' or sth like that |
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| 13:01.53 | cahoot | morghanphoenix: got sound now? |
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| 13:02.13 | pingouin | where i'm suppose add a rule for udev ? |
| 13:02.17 | pingouin | the local.rules file seems not to be read |
| 13:02.18 | morghanphoenix | not yet, trying to remember how to decompress a tar.bz2 cli :P |
| 13:02.20 | pingouin | even after a /etc/init.d/udev restart or a reboot |
| 13:02.28 | blast_hardcheese | Hey, I'm using Debian PPC trying to get Video Out working on my PowerBook 12". Unfortunately I'm using the GeForce 440 Go, so I get crapall when it comes to video support. |
| 13:02.28 | morghanphoenix | Got it down to a tar now |
| 13:02.34 | cahoot | morghanphoenix: tar xvf |
| 13:02.42 | pingouin | morghanphoenix: tar xvjf |
| 13:02.42 | blast_hardcheese | Has anyone tackled/solved this issue? |
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| 13:03.16 | nayte | i have a S21gdm file in my rc2.D dir |
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| 13:03.34 | pingouin | !udev |
| 13:03.49 | Agiofws | abrotman, i did this and it worked |
| 13:03.51 | Agiofws | ixus:/var/www# ln -s /usr/share/phpmyadmin/ phpmyadmin |
| 13:03.59 | Agiofws | BUT is it the right way to do that ? |
| 13:04.02 | morghanphoenix | I was doing it right then, is not a bzip2 file |
| 13:04.02 | morghanphoenix | child returned status 2 error exit delayed from previous errors |
| 13:04.05 | mhymn_ | nayte: that's it, i have S99kdm here, not sure about gdm |
| 13:04.07 | abrotman | i'm sure that's wrong .. but whatever floats your boat |
| 13:04.38 | morghanphoenix | bzip2 -d filename, then tar xvjf filename |
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| 13:04.58 | nayte | what do you want in this file mhymn_ ? |
| 13:05.34 | Agiofws | hello |
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| 13:05.51 | Agiofws | is this the right way to make you phpmyadmin work in debian ? ixus:/var/www# ln -s /usr/share/phpmyadmin/ phpmyadmin ? |
| 13:05.53 | mhymn_ | nayte: you should remove it as i told you, use update-rc.d |
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| 13:06.20 | mhymn_ | Agiofws: you can test that btw |
| 13:06.34 | Agiofws | test what ? |
| 13:06.40 | morghanphoenix | Well, fine, I'll just decompress it on the desktop and put it on my thumb drive :P Take that error message! |
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| 13:06.49 | mhymn_ | Agiofws: what you've done |
| 13:06.52 | Agiofws | it works bu the wiki does not mention it anywhere |
| 13:06.59 | Agiofws | http://wiki.debian.org/LaMp |
| 13:07.00 | graeme | 2 |
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| 13:07.41 | mhymn_ | Agiofws: that link should be there by default |
| 13:07.49 | Agiofws | To have access to phpMyAdmin on your website (i.e. http://example.com/phpmyadmin/ ) all you need to do is include the following line in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Include /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf |
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| 13:08.07 | Agiofws | mhymn_, ? defualt debian installation ? |
| 13:08.14 | mhymn_ | Agiofws: yep |
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| 13:08.39 | Agiofws | or does phpmyadmin i create it ? |
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| 13:08.41 | abrotman | Agiofws: i'm 99% sure you did it wrong |
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| 13:10.10 | Agiofws | did the wiki wrong ? |
| 13:10.22 | Agiofws | dunno maybe i delete the symbolic link |
| 13:10.24 | Agiofws | dunno |
| 13:10.31 | Agiofws | deleted* |
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| 13:11.03 | nayte | ok thx mhymn_ my X no longer launch, how su |
| 13:11.04 | nayte | 4ymPgnYh |
| 13:11.13 | nayte | LOL |
| 13:11.22 | mhymn_ | wtf |
| 13:11.30 | nayte | no the good keyboard :') |
| 13:11.35 | nayte | sry ^^ |
| 13:11.40 | mhymn_ | np ;) |
| 13:11.47 | nayte | my room is a mess |
| 13:11.50 | nayte | :O |
| 13:12.12 | roby_ | do you know a command-line utility to compress JPEG files ? |
| 13:12.37 | mhymn_ | roby_: you googled that? |
| 13:12.45 | Agiofws | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:12.50 | abrotman | roby_: probably you want imagemagick |
| 13:12.50 | Agiofws | you can;t |
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| 13:13.05 | nayte | ok i have to reinit my debian, washing all drivers, i heard to telinit, how does it work ? |
| 13:13.06 | Agiofws | maybe you mean something else |
| 13:13.08 | jelly-home | nayte: change that password |
| 13:13.13 | nayte | yep =) |
| 13:13.35 | Agiofws | lol nayte |
| 13:13.51 | Agiofws | jelly-home, shhh |
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| 13:14.00 | nayte | its done :x |
| 13:14.12 | roby_ | Agiofws, I've some files which have size of about 2 mb, can I obtain those with a size ten times lower ? |
| 13:14.16 | nayte | sure you can hack, my not working debian computer :D |
| 13:14.17 | abrotman | roby_: probably you want imagemagick |
| 13:14.18 | nayte | have fun :x |
| 13:14.27 | roby_ | ok abrotman I'll look for it |
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| 13:14.56 | Agiofws | oh that |
| 13:14.58 | Agiofws | ys you can |
| 13:15.02 | morghanphoenix | speaker-test is static? |
| 13:15.10 | Agiofws | roby_, google for convert |
| 13:15.24 | mhymn_ | and imagemagick is another story... |
| 13:15.26 | nayte | can someone help me to reinit my debian to something clean ? |
| 13:15.32 | nayte | other than a format :D |
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| 13:15.50 | Agiofws | convert scale 300x300 foo.jpg fee.jpg something like that |
| 13:16.02 | abrotman | wtf |
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| 13:16.38 | xlotlu_ | wtf indeed |
| 13:16.48 | Agiofws | for i in *.jpg ; do convert scale 300x300 $i $i.jpg done roby_ something like that |
| 13:16.58 | abrotman | that's not what he's asking for |
| 13:17.04 | roby_ | oki thx |
| 13:17.14 | Agiofws | ahh |
| 13:17.20 | Agiofws | for i in *.jpg ; do convert scale 300x300 $i $i.jpg ; done |
| 13:17.43 | gizmo-- | i need to exposes a private web server on my LAN, anyone could help me with iptables please ? :) |
| 13:18.01 | Agiofws | gizmo--, open iptables |
| 13:18.11 | abrotman | Agiofws: fix your own problem |
| 13:18.31 | Agiofws | and just portforward from your router tou your webserver |
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| 13:18.39 | Agiofws | abrotman, i fixed it |
| 13:18.48 | abrotman | with ln -s .. that's not right |
| 13:18.59 | Agiofws | abrotman, hmm... ? |
| 13:19.01 | gizmo-- | Agiofws, i tryed iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i lo -p tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to-destination internal_ip:80 |
| 13:19.06 | Agiofws | ln -h ? |
| 13:19.12 | nayte | is there any way to wash up my debian ? |
| 13:19.21 | abrotman | nayte: wash up why/how? |
| 13:19.30 | Agiofws | gizmo--, so you are using iptables to portforward .. |
| 13:19.33 | nayte | i have hard issue with my gc drivers |
| 13:19.34 | abrotman | gizmo--: did you ask #iptables ? |
| 13:19.35 | Agiofws | ok ... dunno man |
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| 13:19.42 | gizmo-- | abrotman, no dunno about that channel :) |
| 13:19.51 | abrotman | gizmo--: did you read at netfilter.org ? |
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| 13:19.58 | abrotman | nayte: need more info |
| 13:20.33 | nayte | packages are installed, X doesn't work, i try to remove some nvidia drivers package it doesn't work |
| 13:20.36 | Agiofws | abrotman, gizmo-- on the web search ; iptable syntax portforward ; ... |
| 13:20.42 | nayte | i think about a lower level clean up |
| 13:20.44 | abrotman | Agiofws: FIX YOUR OWN PROBLEM |
| 13:20.47 | gizmo-- | abrotman, not yet |
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| 13:21.05 | abrotman | nayte: did you look in your /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? |
| 13:21.07 | Try_Hard_Go_Pro | hi guys.i'm with dsl and i have problems with skype :@ .when i log in i don't have any users in my contact list.when i add some1 it appears but doesn't see if i send him a message.please help |
| 13:21.07 | Agiofws | abrotman, why is ln -l wrong ? |
| 13:21.12 | Agiofws | perms problem ? |
| 13:21.20 | Agiofws | do i have to make a hard link ? |
| 13:21.34 | abrotman | Try_Hard_Go_Pro: skype is not in debian, ask them, not us |
| 13:21.46 | Agiofws | lol |
| 13:22.02 | Agiofws | abrotman, could you tell me atleast what to serach for ? |
| 13:22.11 | abrotman | the documentation |
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| 13:22.18 | Frokio | Suppose I want to access a remote server using linux n the server IP is dynamic, once i login n then i logout.. how can i login into it again? |
| 13:22.24 | nayte | i'm unable to read correctly this log abrotman, is there anything you want to know in this file ? |
| 13:22.29 | Try_Hard_Go_Pro | abrotman: why since dsl is deb based |
| 13:22.46 | morghanphoenix | And I have sound |
| 13:22.50 | abrotman | Try_Hard_Go_Pro: so are lots of other distros, they're not supported here either |
| 13:22.52 | nayte | there is many warnings |
| 13:22.59 | abrotman | nayte: look towards the end |
| 13:23.04 | Frokio | can someone help me |
| 13:23.21 | morghanphoenix | I understand the attempt to keep it all free software, but when removing firmware makes devices unusable I think the good is outweighed by the bad. |
| 13:23.42 | Agiofws | Frokio, the way you logged into it ? |
| 13:23.54 | nayte | abrotman : failed to initialize GLX extention (nvidia X driver not found) |
| 13:24.19 | Frokio | Agiofws suppose i want to access a remote server "X" |
| 13:24.23 | dutchfish | Frokio, dynamic dns-ing? |
| 13:24.28 | Frokio | and the ip of "X" is dynamic |
| 13:24.29 | abrotman | nayte: how did you install the nvidia driver? and what is your video card? |
| 13:24.41 | Frokio | what should i do to solve this |
| 13:24.42 | nayte | i already reinstalled the drivers, but the xorg.conf produced after that made my screen blank |
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| 13:24.51 | Agiofws | Frokio, dyndns.org |
| 13:25.02 | Frokio | what is that? |
| 13:25.04 | nayte | 2 ways : module-assistant, and running the package on the nvidia website |
| 13:25.12 | Frokio | what is the solution? |
| 13:25.12 | nayte | card : 8800 GTS |
| 13:25.25 | nayte | yesterday it worked, but after reboot ... |
| 13:25.27 | Agiofws | you have a client on your machine connect to YOUR static URL ... when you make your account |
| 13:25.49 | Frokio | Agiofws can i pm u? i cant cope up with th fast chat of chanel |
| 13:25.52 | abrotman | nayte: on etch? |
| 13:25.57 | Frokio | ill explain u in detail in pm |
| 13:25.58 | ghaleb | hello, I noticed suspicous traffic passes through iptraf on my side port 32835, but I can't find it in netstat of fuser to determine the process responsible for that |
| 13:25.58 | Agiofws | basically you make you IP "static" |
| 13:26.01 | dutchfish | !enter |
| 13:26.01 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 13:26.03 | Agiofws | Frokio, do you use debian ? |
| 13:26.04 | nayte | yes abrotman |
| 13:26.09 | Frokio | yes |
| 13:26.13 | Frokio | I dont want to make my ip static |
| 13:26.15 | abrotman | nayte: the etch nvidia drivers don't support that card |
| 13:26.19 | Frokio | I want it to remain dynamic |
| 13:26.24 | abrotman | Frokio: lay off the enter key |
| 13:26.24 | Frokio | something like netting should be done |
| 13:26.25 | Agiofws | could do something for me ? |
| 13:26.35 | Frokio | lay off the enter key? |
| 13:26.36 | Frokio | what u mean? |
| 13:26.48 | abrotman | stop hitting the enter key every third word |
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| 13:27.11 | abrotman | Frokio: which veresion of linux are you using? |
| 13:27.12 | Agiofws | can someone do ls -ld /var/www/phpmyadmin pls and past ethe output here ? |
| 13:27.37 | nayte | be sure i was running 3D games yesterday with this card, is weird abrotman |
| 13:27.51 | abrotman | nayte: so why did you change it? |
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| 13:28.14 | nayte | no longer works after reboot :( |
| 13:28.28 | dutchfish | Agiofws, you could also purge it, and reinstall it |
| 13:28.39 | Agiofws | nayte, what did you change ? is this an ati ? |
| 13:28.44 | Agiofws | purge what ? |
| 13:28.49 | Agiofws | i have |
| 13:29.07 | dutchfish | Agiofws, aptitude purge phpmyadmin && aptitude install phpmyadmin |
| 13:29.12 | Agiofws | but reminstalling doesn ot create a symbolic link to /usr/share/phpmyadmin |
| 13:29.18 | Agiofws | ok wait |
| 13:29.32 | Agiofws | dutchfish, do you have a link in that dir ? |
| 13:29.38 | Agiofws | /var/www# ? |
| 13:29.43 | dutchfish | Agiofws, it isnt supposed to do so |
| 13:29.57 | dutchfish | Agiofws, you need proper apache92) setup |
| 13:30.17 | Agiofws | http://wiki.debian.org/LaMp |
| 13:30.19 | dutchfish | a/apache92)/apache(2) |
| 13:30.21 | Agiofws | followed that |
| 13:30.42 | nayte | Agiofws : nvidia 8800 GTS 512Mo, i don't remember exactly what i did, nvidia's drivers was reinstalled from nvidia's website and worked correctly, and after reboot --> blank screen, maybe a Xorg.cong issu |
| 13:31.06 | nayte | i'm not good enough under linux to solve that :/ |
| 13:31.11 | Agiofws | DID YOU not keep a back up of you xorg.conf ? |
| 13:31.14 | dutchfish | Agiofws, you can do that by instructing apache2 in the setup of phpmyadmin, or in case you messed up, dpkg-reconfigure phpmyadmin |
| 13:31.18 | Agiofws | see if you have one |
| 13:31.19 | nayte | yes i did |
| 13:31.36 | nayte | using it, my X launched, but without nvidia's driver |
| 13:31.59 | Agiofws | nayte, do this |
| 13:32.45 | Agiofws | tail -f /var/log/xorg.0.log or just login in X logout ... and see that file and see what errors you get in that file thats not loading nvidia |
| 13:33.05 | Agiofws | do you have aline in xorg.comf that loads the driver ? |
| 13:33.59 | nayte | <hen i log in log out, i had a blank screen. weird, but i'm actually forced to cut off X at boot |
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| 13:34.16 | abrotman | Agiofws: did you fix your problem yet? |
| 13:34.23 | Agiofws | no |
| 13:34.35 | Agiofws | still trying to see whats wring |
| 13:34.39 | Agiofws | i tried |
| 13:34.44 | Agiofws | dpkg-reconfigure phpmyadmin |
| 13:34.48 | nayte | actually in xorg.conf, nothing ask to nvidia's drivers, that's why i can use it |
| 13:34.48 | dutchfish | abrotman, good point ;) |
| 13:34.58 | Agiofws | but no link is created |
| 13:35.03 | abrotman | because IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO |
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| 13:35.14 | dutchfish | Agiofws, i told you, it ist suposed to create a link |
| 13:35.28 | Agiofws | nayte, paste your xorg.conf on a pastebin site |
| 13:35.35 | Agiofws | ok thats clear now |
| 13:35.37 | dutchfish | Agiofws, phpmyadmin runs as a vhost in apache |
| 13:36.22 | dutchfish | Agiofws, check your apache config files, if they are still default, it works out of the box |
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| 13:36.43 | Agiofws | i'm doing the wiki from scratch |
| 13:37.23 | dutchfish | Agiofws, what wiki? |
| 13:37.23 | Agiofws | http://wiki.debian.org/LaMp |
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| 13:38.34 | nayte | Agiofws : http://pastebin.com/m2125084b |
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| 13:39.00 | abrotman | you're using the vesa driver |
| 13:39.12 | abrotman | and unless you're on a mac, don't specify the BusID |
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| 13:39.32 | Agiofws | nayte, lines 51-55 change 53 to "nvidia" ? |
| 13:40.10 | dutchfish | Agiofws, all correct except in etch or newer, the [Include /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf] part can be skipped, its handled another way by dpkg. Try dpkg-reconfigure apache2 (that is if you use apache2) |
| 13:40.20 | abrotman | Agiofws: fix your own damn problem |
| 13:40.20 | nayte | sure, right now its the only one who can launch X, with nvidia drivers my screen still blank. when I use nvidia-xconfig, it produces a xorg.conf file, who doesn't work too |
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| 13:40.44 | abrotman | fieldy!!!!!!!! |
| 13:40.46 | Agiofws | abrotman, ok srry |
| 13:41.51 | dutchfish | Agiofws, do you? |
| 13:42.06 | Agiofws | do i what ? |
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| 13:42.34 | Agiofws | let me delete the line and do the reconfigure |
| 13:42.43 | dutchfish | Agiofws, sorry, i not gone explain it the 3th time |
| 13:43.10 | Agiofws | if you mean the solution i'm trying it right now hold on |
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| 13:43.22 | standalf | !dpkg pidgin |
| 13:43.22 | dpkg | i heard pidgin is formerly <gaim>, but due to trademark issues with AOL over the acronym AIM, had its name changed to Pidgin. libgaim is now libpurple and gaim-text is now Finch. Backported packages are available for Etch from backports.org, ask me about <backports.org> |
| 13:44.14 | dutchfish | standalf, you ask the bot privately with /msg |
| 13:44.20 | abrotman | !tell standalf about msg the bot |
| 13:44.36 | standalf | next time |
| 13:44.39 | abrotman | pokes Fieldy |
| 13:44.47 | nayte | how can i uninstall and reinstall properly all my video's cfg ? |
| 13:45.18 | standalf | I have installed alsa, but the sound doesn't work I don't get why.. |
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| 13:46.15 | dutchfish | !tell standalf about audio |
| 13:46.46 | abrotman | !tell standalf about alsa checklist |
| 13:46.59 | nayte | :( |
| 13:47.00 | Agiofws | dpkg-reconfigure apache2 does not come up with no s conf screen |
| 13:47.02 | standalf | ahaaa |
| 13:47.13 | Agiofws | and still i don't get the phpmyadmin screen |
| 13:47.17 | Agiofws | dutchfish, |
| 13:47.27 | abrotman | maybe this is a sign that you should actually learn how to use mysql |
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| 13:47.33 | dutchfish | Agiofws, i specifically told you to try dpkg-reconfigure phpmyadmin |
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| 13:47.54 | Agiofws | i did that aswell before habd |
| 13:47.59 | Agiofws | hand* |
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| 13:48.22 | dutchfish | Agiofws, then reload apache2, if apache2 is not broken it should work out of the box |
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| 13:48.33 | Agiofws | nope |
| 13:48.37 | neoice | anyone know of a way to make the mouse acceleration on Linux mimick OSX? |
| 13:48.40 | Agiofws | restarted it |
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| 13:49.02 | abrotman | neoice: mimic what exactly .. not everyone uses OSX |
| 13:49.03 | dutchfish | Agiofws, did you mess up apache2 config files? |
| 13:49.17 | Agiofws | no .. one line i think ... |
| 13:49.18 | Agiofws | only |
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| 13:49.27 | abrotman | lay off the freaking enter key |
| 13:49.43 | neoice | abrotman: when you move the mouse, the rate at which it moves is effected by how fast you're moving |
| 13:49.55 | abrotman | like all mice ? |
| 13:50.05 | dutchfish | Agiofws, then fix that 1 line, it should work then |
| 13:50.12 | neoice | yeah? I mean, I really just need it to work for one |
| 13:50.14 | nayte | is there any command to reinstall debian properly ? what about telinit ? |
| 13:50.22 | abrotman | neoice: which DE/WM do you use ? |
| 13:50.24 | Agiofws | let me try to see ... |
| 13:50.35 | Agiofws | apache2.conf ? |
| 13:50.35 | neoice | abrotman: xfce |
| 13:50.57 | dutchfish | Agiofws, i dont know wich one you edited, thats up to you |
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| 13:51.43 | Agiofws | no all is natural in apache2.conf |
| 13:52.12 | abrotman | neoice: i know gnome(and probably kde) has a mouse interface to set acceleration .. i'd imagine that the xorg.conf has an option |
| 13:52.22 | dutchfish | Agiofws, then you could delve into the apache2 logs, there certianly things in it that pint you in the right direction |
| 13:52.30 | Agiofws | http://rafb.net/p/xkkitW24.html |
| 13:52.32 | dutchfish | s/pint/point |
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| 13:53.38 | Agiofws | other_vhosts_access.log ? |
| 13:53.54 | nitrofurano | which is the most efficient way to contact packagers? |
| 13:54.16 | Agiofws | [Sat Dec 13 15:48:47 2008] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] File does not exist: /var/www/phpmyadmin |
| 13:54.33 | abrotman | or don't wait |
| 13:54.36 | dutchfish | Agiofws, hint: you take a peak at /etc/apache2/sites-enabled and/or sites-available |
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| 13:55.07 | Agiofws | i did'nt touch anything there and i did not even know that that exists |
| 13:55.25 | dutchfish | Agiofws, thats where you vhosts live |
| 13:55.41 | dutchfish | Agiofws, at least there configurations |
| 13:56.09 | Agiofws | www.imagebin.org/33524 |
| 13:56.13 | Agiofws | dont link to that |
| 13:56.15 | Agiofws | srry |
| 13:56.17 | abrotman | there is a README.Debian that Agiofws apparently can't read |
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| 13:56.29 | dutchfish | ah |
| 13:56.47 | abrotman | which is why i told him to read the docs an hour ago |
| 13:57.00 | dutchfish | !fish |
| 13:57.00 | dpkg | "Give a man a fish and you'll feed him a day. Teach him how to fish and he'll feed himself for the rest of his life." This is so appropriate. Instead of asking us to tell you exactly what to do, ask us which docs to read, read them, then come back and ask specific questions which aren't covered. Also the "Friendly Interactive SHell", a non-POSIX compatible replacement shell: http://fishshell.org |
| 13:57.07 | Agiofws | in /us/share/phpmyadmin ? |
| 13:57.29 | abrotman | i also mentioned dpkg -L an hour ago |
| 13:57.46 | Agiofws | i did that |
| 13:58.32 | Agiofws | www.imagebin.org/33525 |
| 13:58.50 | Agiofws | hmm no php entry in vhosts .. |
| 13:58.51 | enouf | dutchfish: s/at least there configurations/at least their configurations/ (just a fwiw - to try and be helpful) |
| 13:58.52 | Agiofws | i guess |
| 13:58.55 | abrotman | still not reading |
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| 13:59.19 | drasko_ | hi all. How to shutdown PC speaker? |
| 13:59.27 | enouf | !bell |
| 13:59.27 | dpkg | "xset b off" in X, or "setterm -blength 0" in console . For some reason, bash beeps excessively when in emacs (default) mode. "set -o vi" puts it in vi editing mode, which doesn't beep on partial completions. See also <shell beep>. or "set bell-style none" in ~/.inputrc, or in konsole, Settings->Bell->Visible Bell, or for .26 and newer modprobe -r snd-pcsp, then <blacklist> the snd-pcsp module |
| 13:59.44 | Agiofws | drasko_, cut the cable :) |
| 14:00.01 | enouf | Agiofws: there is no cable |
| 14:00.07 | dutchfish | enouf, thank you |
| 14:00.17 | drasko_ | Aggro, cannot open machine |
| 14:00.21 | enouf | Agiofws: did you mean "cut the spoon"? ;-) |
| 14:00.30 | enouf | dutchfish: np ;-) |
| 14:00.40 | Agiofws | bend the spoon " |
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| 14:01.02 | abrotman | Agiofws: fix your own problem |
| 14:01.03 | dutchfish | enouf, btw i found out what is mixing up the kernelbuild |
| 14:01.21 | enouf | dutchfish: do share ;-) |
| 14:01.27 | dutchfish | enouf, a sec |
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| 14:02.48 | drasko_ | is there a sw way to shut down the damn thing |
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| 14:03.47 | dutchfish | enouf, there is a small difference in /etc/bash_completion.d/make_kpkg in old machine and fesh setup |
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| 14:03.56 | Agiofws | drasko_, open the box and cut the wire ? or some kind of kernel module to unload i dont know if that will affect the sound from your sound cARD |
| 14:03.58 | dutchfish | s/fesh/fresh |
| 14:04.38 | mhymn_ | drasko_: dpkg just told you above |
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| 14:05.21 | Assid | is there a 64bit lenny iso ? |
| 14:05.27 | dutchfish | enouf, after the line --stem --revision --rootcmd --subarch \ there are [space][tab][space]. In the new version it isnt |
| 14:05.30 | drasko_ | mhymn_, thanks |
| 14:05.36 | Agiofws | dutchfish, can you take a look at that file http://rafb.net/p/u6fs5e17.html |
| 14:05.47 | dutchfish | enouf, could this confuse the build? |
| 14:05.48 | Agiofws | does it have to have a phpmyadmin dir entry ? |
| 14:05.51 | mhymn_ | Assid: yep |
| 14:06.03 | Agiofws | if not doesn't dpkgreconfigure create it ? |
| 14:07.01 | Assid | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/iso-cd/ -- these right ? |
| 14:07.09 | abrotman | drasko_: what part of the speaker? the beep ? |
| 14:07.15 | abrotman | Assid: use the netinst |
| 14:07.23 | Assid | i never understood why they call them amd64 even tho it works on intel 64 |
| 14:07.37 | mhymn_ | Assid: |
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| 14:07.49 | mhymn_ | damn enter key, sorry dude |
| 14:07.51 | dutchfish | Agiofws, normally the installer does that for you, or dpkg-reconfigure phpmyadmin will |
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| 14:08.11 | Assid | wheres the netinst ? |
| 14:08.12 | Agiofws | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:08.20 | abrotman | Agiofws: you STILL didn't read the documentation |
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| 14:08.31 | Agiofws | the php docs ? |
| 14:08.34 | abrotman | Assid: debian.org/devel/debian-installer |
| 14:08.34 | Assid | err brb |
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| 14:09.11 | mhymn_ | Assid: /msg dpkg why amd64 |
| 14:09.26 | Agiofws | hmm |
| 14:10.13 | Agiofws | i wonder #Alias /phpmyadmin /usr/share/phpmyadmin why this line in /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf is commented you guys no if its normal ?? |
| 14:10.24 | dutchfish | enouf, for your info, with a fresh install (as of yesterday) i could not reproduce the error, it sonly in the box wich i installed 2 months ago, same setup amd64 lenny |
| 14:11.08 | Agiofws | dutchfish, can you check you own file ? |
| 14:11.18 | dutchfish | Agiofws, i did |
| 14:11.18 | Agiofws | i that line is commented ? |
| 14:11.40 | Agiofws | which is ? commented or not ? |
| 14:12.12 | enouf | dutchfish: interesting .. allow me some time here .. |
| 14:12.19 | dutchfish | enouf, ok |
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| 14:12.57 | Agiofws | ok that line was the cause of troubl I THINK i solved IT |
| 14:13.00 | drasko_ | abrotman, no, the music. It is going to headphones, but also out through speaker, disturbing people around me... |
| 14:13.10 | Agiofws | abrotman, dutchfish thank you |
| 14:13.12 | nayte | halt = shut down, and for reboot ? |
| 14:13.22 | dutchfish | Agiofws, yw |
| 14:13.33 | Agiofws | thank you again |
| 14:13.37 | abrotman | now just imagine if he would have read the docs an hour ago |
| 14:13.49 | abrotman | drasko_: can't you just turn the volume down ? |
| 14:13.50 | dutchfish | !coffee abrotman |
| 14:13.50 | dpkg | decants a fine brew of International Roast Caterers Blend for abrotman, courtesy of dutchfish |
| 14:13.50 | Agiofws | nayte, did you fix your problem ? |
| 14:14.09 | nayte | nope, but i'm on a way |
| 14:14.12 | Agiofws | ok back to my joomla book |
| 14:14.15 | nayte | how can i reboot with a cmd line |
| 14:15.21 | dutchfish | nayte, reboot the machine? reboot or shutdown -r now |
| 14:15.29 | drasko_ | abrotman, alsamixer turns the volume for headphones also then... |
| 14:15.30 | morghanphoenix | how do you set your monitor resolution for x? I don't have any resolutions in my xorg.conf file and the video card is capable of higher resolution than the monitor so part of my desktop is off the screen. |
| 14:15.47 | abrotman | drasko_: i meant the volume knob on the speakers |
| 14:16.01 | abrotman | morghanphoenix: xrandr |
| 14:16.38 | drasko_ | abrotman, knob on PC speaker? But it is in the box... |
| 14:17.29 | abrotman | drasko_: modprobe -r snd-pcsp perhaps ? |
| 14:17.34 | morghanphoenix | permenantly? I know xrandr changes it but it keeps going back to the higer resolution. |
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| 14:17.54 | nayte | when I boot, i see an important line : removing nvidia TLS link... |
| 14:18.02 | drasko_ | abrotman, thanks |
| 14:18.30 | abrotman | morghanphoenix: you can specify in the xorg.conf if you want to |
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| 14:19.22 | drasko_ | abrotman, still plays... |
| 14:19.42 | abrotman | drasko_: you may want to ask #alsa, might be a driver issue |
| 14:20.03 | drasko_ | kanta:/home/drasko/asmTutorial# modprobe -l | grep pcsp |
| 14:20.03 | drasko_ | /lib/modules/2.6.26-1-686/kernel/sound/drivers/pcsp/snd-pcsp.ko |
| 14:20.03 | drasko_ | /lib/modules/2.6.26-1-686/kernel/drivers/input/misc/pcspkr.ko |
| 14:20.22 | abrotman | drasko_: or use modinfo to see which flags your sound driver takes |
| 14:20.33 | drasko_ | abrotman, ok, tnx |
| 14:20.44 | enouf | dutchfish: fwiw, in my version here - this is what shows from a cat -A file |
| 14:20.45 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:20.45 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:21.27 | drasko_ | abrotman, but.. I said modprobe -r, and now modprobe -l is still giving me /lib/modules/2.6.26-1-686/kernel/sound/drivers/pcsp/snd-pcsp.ko. Did not I removed it from the system. Looks like not. |
| 14:21.27 | dutchfish | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:21.27 | dutchfish | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:21.44 | dutchfish | enouf, the one that works |
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| 14:22.40 | dutchfish | enouf, after the line --stem --revision --rootcmd --subarch \ there are [space][tab][space]. In the new version it isnt |
| 14:22.46 | Iradieh | http://www.pichost.nl/uploads/a8e04fdb4c.jpg |
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| 14:23.41 | dutchfish | enouf, i could delve into the cache of that machine and reinstall the package to see if it was really in the package then |
| 14:23.44 | enouf | dutchfish: there's a reason i mentioned cat -A |
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| 14:24.14 | dutchfish | enouf, ok, explain |
| 14:24.21 | enouf | dutchfish: man cat '=_ |
| 14:24.28 | enouf | dutchfish: er .. man cat ;-) |
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| 14:24.54 | dutchfish | enouf, aha -vET |
| 14:25.33 | dutchfish | enouf, i use kwrite it greys out tab spaces, so i can see at a glance |
| 14:26.16 | dutchfish | enouf, otherwise i would have overlooked it |
| 14:26.18 | enouf | GUI formatters are ok - just not to share info with in irc :-p |
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| 14:26.26 | dutchfish | enouf, right |
| 14:27.25 | Standalf | /server irc.rizon.net |
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| 14:27.38 | enouf | drasko_: blacklisting doesn't remove modules from the system .. wtf? |
| 14:27.59 | enouf | drasko_: neither does modprobe -r |
| 14:28.06 | dutchfish | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:28.06 | dutchfish | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:28.15 | dutchfish | enouf, the working one |
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| 14:28.43 | nayte | does anyone know how to uninstall ALL modules, packages drivers from nvidia's driver ? module-assistant ? aptitude ? something else ? |
| 14:29.16 | enouf | remove the crud from /usr/src/ related to it - done |
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| 14:31.08 | pif | enouf: you never sleep |
| 14:31.27 | pif | always on deck, good job |
| 14:31.51 | dutchfish | enouf, i will copy 'the good one' to the machine that burbs and run a recompile, if it give changes |
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| 14:32.31 | dutchfish | enouf, where there updates within last 2,5 months to make-kpkg ? |
| 14:32.48 | dutchfish | enouf, on lenny amd64 that is |
| 14:33.00 | abrotman | probably |
| 14:33.15 | octox2 | when trying other distros and seeing that mdadm and "su" is broken lol, It feels nice to come back to a distro maintained by people who care about things working |
| 14:33.23 | abrotman | http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/k/kernel-package/kernel-package_11.015/changelog |
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| 14:34.12 | dutchfish | enouf, look at [18b6142] ... ha |
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| 14:34.46 | drasko_ | enouf, what does then? i did not mean to remove it from the system but to unload it. I thought that modprobe -l shows the list of currently loaded modules, and not all the possible modules. |
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| 14:35.38 | d-b | octox2: ... its su - officially |
| 14:35.52 | d-b | i thought |
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| 14:38.01 | Assid | hrmm if i got a new installation . makes sense to use lvm now right |
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| 14:39.01 | standalf_ | I need help.... I don't know what happend, maybe something with graphic drivers (but 3D game tremulous works) :( I see every 2nd directory or nickname in konversation black |
| 14:39.12 | standalf_ | I thought it's only in konversation but it |
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| 14:39.28 | standalf_ | it's in krusader too... doesn't mind I'm in gnome and I use krusader? |
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| 14:40.44 | enouf | dutchfish: i don't see how [18b6142] is related |
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| 14:41.21 | enouf | drasko_: lsmod shows loaded modules, man modprobe and see what the -l option does |
| 14:41.26 | dutchfish | enouf, at a glance it looked simular to my problem, but its a config problem |
| 14:41.28 | standalf_ | nobody knows? |
| 14:41.47 | dutchfish | enouf, sorry |
| 14:41.54 | enouf | standalf_: colors? |
| 14:42.17 | standalf_ | it can't be in a programme... because I have it in konversation and also in krusader |
| 14:42.43 | enouf | standalf_: aren't both kde irc apps? |
| 14:43.01 | standalf_ | yea, they are... but I'm in gnome |
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| 14:43.09 | enouf | and? |
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| 14:43.25 | standalf_ | and every 2nd nickname X folder is black :/ |
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| 14:43.48 | enouf | nicknames, as in irc nicknames - hence colorized nicks |
| 14:44.02 | octox2 | d-b: I know, i was just accenting it with" " |
| 14:44.13 | enouf | standalf_: i don't have any folders on my system |
| 14:44.24 | standalf_ | directories... |
| 14:44.29 | octox2 | d-b: i guess I dont need to do that since everyone knows what su is right |
| 14:44.36 | d-b | techniciolour rainbow. |
| 14:44.42 | enouf | standalf_: i don't know what an X directory is |
| 14:45.03 | drasko_ | enouf, ok, tnx |
| 14:45.04 | standalf_ | x meant or |
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| 14:45.43 | enouf | drasko_: do you have a /etc/modprobe.conf file? |
| 14:46.15 | xlotlu | i wonder what i left out of my kernel that i can't use m ynokia as a modem anymore |
| 14:46.23 | enouf | drasko_: that's the one rare case when blacklisting that is overlooked - if not, just follow the <blacklist> factoid |
| 14:46.30 | xlotlu | my nokia even |
| 14:46.41 | abrotman | xlotlu: use a debian kernel |
| 14:46.46 | enouf | drasko_: or maybe i meant /etc/modules.conf |
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| 14:47.13 | xlotlu | enouf: i will, but i'm too lazy to reboot right now.. |
| 14:47.19 | dutchfish | enouf, i just copied the file over to the machine that was burping on kernel compile, compile is now fine, so i conclude that this file was the culprit? |
| 14:47.59 | enouf | dutchfish: the /etc/bash_completion.d/make_kpkg file? |
| 14:48.18 | dutchfish | enouf, the files extracted out of apt cache is exactly the same as on the good machine, strange |
| 14:48.24 | dutchfish | enouf, yes |
| 14:48.26 | enouf | dutchfish: and this is all when using the amd64 arch? does it appear on the i386 arch as well? |
| 14:48.44 | dutchfish | enouf, i cant tell, didnt do i386 for a long time |
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| 14:49.05 | enouf | dutchfish: you never showed us the file with the [space][tab][space] or whatever it was ... |
| 14:49.17 | dutchfish | enouf, ok, hold on |
| 14:49.38 | enouf | dutchfish: cat -A will show tab characters |
| 14:49.52 | dutchfish | enouf, ok, now that now, thank you |
| 14:49.53 | enouf | do i really need to stress this point? .. :-P |
| 14:49.59 | dutchfish | s/now/know |
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| 14:55.46 | dutchfish | enouf, http://raw.debian.pastebin.com/m222931c4 |
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| 14:56.59 | Octave_Octet | Hi, I have an issue with flash in debian unstable for AMD64. I am aware there were problems with the 1:1.8.1 packages and installed the 1:2 from experimental, but to no avail. Any idea ? |
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| 14:58.42 | alleyoopster | hi all |
| 14:59.49 | alleyoopster | just installed virtualbox in lenny and system errors on reboot with no boot device. It installed a new kernel and updated grub, but system unusable now, can someone help? |
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| 15:01.02 | d-b | alleyoopster: i found i needed to compile my own vbox module but that's just me ... (i'm on bigmem kernel) |
| 15:01.03 | dutchfish | Octave_Octet, you mean debian prop flash? |
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| 15:01.24 | Octave_Octet | dutchfish: flashplugin-nonfree sorry |
| 15:01.40 | dutchfish | !flash64beta |
| 15:01.40 | dpkg | from memory, flash64beta is To use the beta flash non-free player without to run into problems in usermode download the tar.gz from http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html, mkdir /home/`whoami`/.mozilla/plugins and copy the extracted .so into it. |
| 15:02.00 | alleyoopster | d-b: I don't even get grub menu coming up. Does the install change the MBR? |
| 15:02.12 | Assid | is it better to create 2 partitions.. 1 for LVM .. 1 for swap? |
| 15:02.14 | d-b | alleyoopster: .... no |
| 15:02.19 | Assid | or do i make a swap in LVM? |
| 15:02.33 | d-b | you seem to have a much bigger problem. your hard disk is probably dead. |
| 15:02.39 | d-b | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:02.42 | Octave_Octet | dutchfish: I'd better use packages on this computer. Do not wwwant to add cruft to it |
| 15:02.51 | Octave_Octet | But thanks anyway |
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| 15:03.09 | alleyoopster | d-b: I booted on a livecd and can see the disk ok and read files |
| 15:03.11 | dutchfish | Octalot, ok, i ran into same problems, could not solve it otherwise (yet) |
| 15:03.31 | d-b | alleyoopster: oh... odd maybe you should just restore grub then. |
| 15:03.34 | nayte | ok i have another question, about grub : fort a boot menu, we write title foo, root (hd0,1) <-- how can i call my /Dev/sdb1 disk in this line ? |
| 15:03.43 | dutchfish | Octalot, sorry |
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| 15:03.56 | mjs1992 | hi |
| 15:04.01 | dutchfish | Octave_Octet, thats why i decided to run in usermode |
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| 15:05.14 | alleyoopster | d-b: not sure if the error is grub, cannot find bootable disk, that is more isnt it. grub normally gives error code or am i wrong, not sure whether to try grub or mbr? |
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| 15:06.09 | dutchfish | Octave_Octet, i use this along with default iceweasel |
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| 15:06.49 | d-b | error code 21 ? |
| 15:07.33 | octox2 | is there a way to change the volume label of a disk? |
| 15:08.14 | akurei | of course |
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| 15:09.01 | akurei | tune2fs -L name /dev/sdX |
| 15:09.05 | akurei | but read the man page first |
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| 15:09.33 | mjs1992 | @octox2: You can set the label with GParted also |
| 15:09.38 | octox2 | well, my usbdrive used to come up as lexar untill I reformated it. now it comes up as disk, and only root has rw privs to it |
| 15:10.49 | akurei | octox2: well mkfs.vfat -n labelname /dev/sdX |
| 15:10.56 | akurei | will reformat as fat |
| 15:11.11 | akurei | and set the label |
| 15:11.27 | octox2 | oh sorry, i forgot to cay that i formatted it as ext3 |
| 15:11.32 | octox2 | say* |
| 15:11.42 | akurei | well then use gparted or tune2fs |
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| 15:12.12 | akurei | then chown -R yourusername:yourusername /media/usbdrivelocation |
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| 15:12.43 | Assid | err.. /tmp is faster when used as jfs/xfs /ext3 ? |
| 15:12.56 | octox2 | akurei: thank you for your help. I know it is a lttle of topic. You guys are alway good help though |
| 15:13.00 | d-b | Assid: xfs is fast. |
| 15:13.09 | nayte | to boot on a windows disk using GRUB (debian on the first disk, win on the second), i have to make a proper entry in the menu.lst, that's all ? |
| 15:13.11 | d-b | there are trade offs. |
| 15:13.35 | akurei | nayte: true |
| 15:13.41 | Assid | bvut for /tmp ? wouldnt it be better? |
| 15:13.55 | nayte | nothing to install on the windows disk akurei ? |
| 15:14.01 | akurei | nayte: nope |
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| 15:14.30 | nayte | so if i get a error 21, its just a cfg in the menu.lst, or something to mount up anywhere ? |
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| 15:14.58 | akurei | show me the mnu.lst via pastebin.com |
| 15:15.03 | Assid | or should i use reiser |
| 15:16.28 | mjs1992 | Assid: I don't think this would be much difference |
| 15:16.55 | nayte | how could i copy from a file in console mode akurei ? :x |
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| 15:17.20 | mjs1992 | nayte: cat /boot/grub/menu.lst > file.txt |
| 15:18.25 | nayte | file.txt : so such file :x |
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| 15:18.51 | mjs1992 | hm? this file will be created by the command |
| 15:19.03 | akurei | nayte: cat /boot/grub/menu.lst > ~/file.txt |
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| 15:19.33 | nayte | that's ok with the > =) |
| 15:20.02 | nayte | how can i paste that in pastebin hum, i can use links |
| 15:20.12 | abrotman | paste.debian.net |
| 15:20.18 | mjs1992 | then you can open the file with a graphical editor and easily copy it |
| 15:20.35 | nayte | i haven't =) |
| 15:20.35 | nayte | X |
| 15:20.37 | nayte | console mod only |
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| 15:21.06 | mjs1992 | oh |
| 15:21.24 | nayte | ^^^ |
| 15:21.28 | akurei | nayte, paste me in query |
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| 15:22.00 | nayte | that's the same problem, how do I copy ? :x |
| 15:22.03 | abrotman | nayte: you can use links to paste in on paste.debian.net |
| 15:22.08 | hersoy | hi, help me |
| 15:22.09 | Fiskah | How can I use my Postfix server as outgoing mailserver externally (with authentication ofc)? |
| 15:22.09 | abrotman | nayte: are you IRCing from the broken box ? |
| 15:22.18 | nayte | no, other computer |
| 15:22.27 | liable | theres also the paste packages available now |
| 15:22.34 | abrotman | nayte: then use links to paste it at paste.debian.net |
| 15:22.37 | abrotman | liable: only lenny/sid |
| 15:22.39 | hersoy | how can i delete my mail on gpg server ? |
| 15:22.48 | liable | abrotman: yes |
| 15:22.51 | dutchfish | Fiskah, you need it to setup as a relay for your internal net only |
| 15:23.02 | abrotman | hersoy: how is that a Debian issue? |
| 15:23.32 | nayte | how can i copy the content of my file.txt in console mod :x |
| 15:24.02 | abrotman | nayte: then use links to paste it at paste.debian.net |
| 15:24.10 | abrotman | you can upload a file |
| 15:24.26 | dutchfish | Fiskah, http://www.postfix.org/SMTPD_ACCESS_README.html |
| 15:24.37 | enouf | dutchfish: for comparison ; this is what i have http://pastebin.ca/raw/1284263 .. and dpkg -l shows; ii kernel-package 11.001-0.1 |
| 15:24.39 | nayte | how can i upload abrotman ? |
| 15:24.54 | abrotman | it's a website .. you read it .. |
| 15:25.09 | mjs1992 | you could upload it by ftp, if you have a server, nayte |
| 15:25.20 | abrotman | paste.debian.net has a place to upload files |
| 15:25.24 | abrotman | why is this so hard to understand? |
| 15:25.37 | enouf | !tell nayte about pastewithoutx |
| 15:25.45 | enouf | !tell nayte about pastebin pipe |
| 15:25.49 | abrotman | he doesn't need that |
| 15:25.56 | abrotman | yay for confusing him |
| 15:25.58 | mjs1992 | maybe he doesn't have links? |
| 15:26.09 | abrotman | he already said he does |
| 15:26.16 | nayte | because i'm on the paste.debian.net website and I don't see any upload file option, even i read the site |
| 15:26.17 | mjs1992 | oh ok |
| 15:26.28 | abrotman | nayte: the 'Browse' buttom ? |
| 15:26.30 | enouf | links is text only - links2 does have a GUI mode |
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| 15:26.43 | AndreMilton | hy |
| 15:26.55 | abrotman | why does he need a GUI mode? |
| 15:27.15 | enouf | he doesn't, especially now that he has the two factoids of info |
| 15:27.19 | AndreMilton | i tried to install flash plugin in iceweasel 2.0.0.3 |
| 15:27.27 | AndreMilton | but i dont succeed |
| 15:27.29 | abrotman | he didn't even need those, but you had to confuse him |
| 15:27.36 | AndreMilton | any help ? |
| 15:27.42 | mjs1992 | abrotman: I think the question is how to paste from a file into the textarea on the website |
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| 15:28.05 | abrotman | he doesn't have to .. there is a place to upload a file! |
| 15:28.12 | abrotman | maybe one of you should try it |
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| 15:28.26 | enouf | maybe you should get laid ;-) |
| 15:28.30 | abrotman | right next to the 'send' button, there's a field to type in a file |
| 15:28.34 | abrotman | enouf: go away |
| 15:28.39 | mjs1992 | aahhh youre right |
| 15:28.41 | abrotman | as usual, you're not helping |
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| 15:29.05 | octox2 | mjs1992: yes gparted was able to change the label, thanks :) |
| 15:29.13 | mjs1992 | nayte: look on the website - you'll see a [Send] Button |
| 15:29.18 | mjs1992 | octox2: np |
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| 15:29.35 | mjs1992 | left of this button you can enter your file |
| 15:29.47 | renton_ | do you know where lynx store personal data? |
| 15:30.02 | renton_ | ls -a ~/ |
| 15:30.05 | mjs1992 | /home/username/file.txt |
| 15:30.06 | abrotman | renton_: probably ~/.lynx ? |
| 15:30.12 | octox2 | mjs1992: after looking at mkfs.ext3 --help, it seems there is an option -L for volume label too :) |
| 15:30.28 | dutchfish | enouf, 2 whitelines and the tab (i mentioned) no diference further |
| 15:30.37 | renton_ | so i have not ~/.lynx |
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| 15:30.45 | nayte | hummm ok its not part of the upper filed ! |
| 15:30.47 | nayte | field |
| 15:30.48 | mjs1992 | ok, but I think the usage of gparted is easier |
| 15:30.50 | nayte | thx mjs1992 |
| 15:31.11 | octox2 | yea it is |
| 15:31.13 | dutchfish | enouf, strange |
| 15:31.19 | abrotman | renton_: let me install it |
| 15:31.22 | xlotlu | enouf: seems my kernel was perfectly fine. the nokia needed a reboot.. ugh :) |
| 15:31.24 | enouf | dutchfish: right ... which version do you have? |
| 15:31.27 | mjs1992 | hmmm... someone could make it easier to find |
| 15:31.33 | dutchfish | enouf, the working one? |
| 15:31.46 | enouf | dutchfish: my uname -r is 2.6.26-1-686 |
| 15:31.56 | renton_ | i just wished not to leave personal data on a server |
| 15:32.02 | enouf | dutchfish: well - wouldn't it be prudent to know which one is broken? |
| 15:32.04 | renton_ | on which i had to browse with lynx |
| 15:32.06 | abrotman | renton_: just a moment |
| 15:32.13 | renton_ | oh yes, thanks |
| 15:32.16 | dutchfish | enouf, working: 2.6.27.8-lldesktop-amd64 |
| 15:32.18 | renton_ | i was just explaining :D |
| 15:32.19 | nayte | it's ok abrotman : http://paste.debian.net/23519 |
| 15:32.35 | enouf | dutchfish: and .. then to figure out if somehow you did it, or it came that way? |
| 15:32.35 | dutchfish | enouf, my own build |
| 15:32.39 | enouf | dutchfish: no, i meant your kernel-package version! |
| 15:32.49 | renton_ | :~# ls -a |
| 15:32.50 | renton_ | . .. .aptitude .bash_history .bashrc download .gnupg .lesshst .profile .ssh .subversion workspace |
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| 15:33.11 | dutchfish | enouf, 11.015 |
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| 15:33.53 | enouf | dutchfish: yours is newer than mine |
| 15:34.03 | enouf | judd: versions kernel-package |
| 15:34.03 | abrotman | renton_: then maybe it doesn't |
| 15:34.03 | judd | enouf: kernel-package -- etch: 10.067 sid: 11.012 lenny: 11.015 sid: 11.015 |
| 15:34.13 | renton_ | ok tnx |
| 15:34.15 | abrotman | nayte: who wanted to see it, not me |
| 15:34.37 | enouf | dutchfish: bbl -- gotta run out |
| 15:34.46 | dutchfish | enouf, gone pull some more hairs, i keep you informed |
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| 15:34.59 | nayte | akurei yes ! http://paste.debian.net/23519 |
| 15:35.00 | alleyoopster | how do I rewrite the MBR from debian? |
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| 15:35.40 | mjs1992 | alleyoopster, you mean to reinstall GRUB? |
| 15:36.30 | alleyoopster | mjs1992: the MBR I think is the problem here, can I just install that? |
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| 15:36.58 | mjs1992 | you could try the rescue modus of the Debian CD |
| 15:37.08 | alleyoopster | mjs1992: ok, where is that? |
| 15:37.33 | mjs1992 | mhm... if you have the lenny beta CD |
| 15:37.42 | mjs1992 | you can choose it in the main startup menu |
| 15:37.44 | alleyoopster | mjs1992: i have lenny netinstall |
| 15:37.57 | mjs1992 | hm |
| 15:37.58 | alleyoopster | mjs1992: ok, will try that cheers |
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| 15:38.23 | mjs1992 | don't know, whether it works with the netinstall CD |
| 15:38.24 | alleyoopster | mjs1992: or maybe i need to get the disk1? |
| 15:38.40 | alleyoopster | mjs1992: one way to find out :) |
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| 15:39.00 | mjs1992 | <alleyoopster> mjs1992: or maybe i need to get the disk1? <-- what do you mean |
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| 15:39.43 | alleyoopster | mjs1992: the disk 1 debian CD1, full 700mb install cd |
| 15:39.53 | mjs1992 | ah |
| 15:40.03 | mjs1992 | yes I can do it with disk1 |
| 15:40.08 | akurei | nayte: can you load debian? |
| 15:40.19 | alleyoopster | will try the netinstall first, i have it here cheers |
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| 15:40.35 | mjs1992 | ok good luck |
| 15:40.37 | nayte | i'm on akurei |
| 15:40.50 | alleyoopster | mjs1992: netinstall has rescue mode |
| 15:41.08 | akurei | nayte, can you fdisk -l and tell me which partition is NTFS/HPFS? |
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| 15:41.19 | mjs1992 | ok |
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| 15:41.48 | nayte | akurei sdb1 |
| 15:41.59 | akurei | and debian resides on? |
| 15:42.12 | mjs1992 | answer the questions till you come to a menu, where you can choose sth like "reinstall GRUB bootloader" |
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| 15:42.48 | Assid | on lenny, is there a way to have openvz kernel AND xen ? |
| 15:42.48 | nayte | no, on sda |
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| 15:43.07 | akurei | nayte? |
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| 15:43.28 | nayte | sda : debian |
| 15:43.32 | twobitsp1ite | Assid: I'm not sure if there is a xenified openvz kernel... but you could probably run it in fully-virtualized mode |
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| 15:43.44 | twobitsp1ite | Assid: but really, why would you want to do that? |
| 15:43.57 | Assid | twobitsp1ite: i want to be able top have VE's and VM's |
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| 15:44.39 | twobitsp1ite | maybe I'm missing something (likely) but I don't understand why you would... do VE's provide something VMs don't?> |
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| 15:45.21 | Assid | twobitsp1ite: VE's are native . VM's CAN BE near native |
| 15:45.48 | alleyoopster | mjs1992: hey looked like it worked, just got to sort out the grub menu to boot, but at least I have one now, thanks |
| 15:46.06 | twobitsp1ite | Assid: ok... so again... why would you want both? |
| 15:46.13 | mjs1992 | alleyoopster, so it was what you wanted? |
| 15:46.52 | alleyoopster | mjs1992: yeah, guess I am a bit confused about MBR and grub, I wasnt getting grub menu up so assumed the problem was deeper |
| 15:46.52 | Assid | there are some users who just need a vps which i can give as a VE container.. some users who may want their own kernel and such. then i give them a VM.. like if theres a need for windows and such |
| 15:46.56 | mjs1992 | ah ok :) |
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| 15:47.26 | alleyoopster | mjs1992: but the rescue mode reinstalled grub to hda1 and now I can fix the rest |
| 15:47.37 | twobitsp1ite | Assid: ahh... so, you're setting up something like Linode... that makes more sense |
| 15:48.05 | Assid | yep |
| 15:48.09 | twobitsp1ite | Assid: well... the only way I can think of, would be to run openvz full-virt within xen... but that defeats the purpose |
| 15:48.16 | mjs1992 | what is the "bigmem" Kernel for? |
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| 15:48.33 | twobitsp1ite | i.e., you can't have two kernels running at a time without a hypervisor of some sorts |
| 15:48.37 | rio | hi, installing debian on nslu2, it asks which kernel to flash '-2.6-ixp4xx', '-2.6.26-1-ixp4xx' or '-ixp4xx', arent all the same? whats the difference? |
| 15:48.42 | twobitsp1ite | !tell mjs1992 about bigmem |
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| 15:49.26 | mjs1992 | twobitsp1ite, so I can use 64 GB RAM with a 32 bit System? |
| 15:49.38 | twobitsp1ite | yes |
| 15:49.52 | mjs1992 | yeah that's cool :D |
| 15:49.54 | mjs1992 | thanks |
| 15:49.59 | twobitsp1ite | you got 64g of ram? |
| 15:50.00 | twobitsp1ite | :) |
| 15:50.20 | mjs1992 | no, but my mainboard is ready for 8GB |
| 15:50.33 | twobitsp1ite | ahh |
| 15:50.37 | twobitsp1ite | then yeah, you'll want bigmem |
| 15:50.52 | kqr | !tell kqr about bigmem |
| 15:50.54 | Assid | twobitsp1ite: i am still trying to figure out if i should lenny or move to ubuntu for this server.. 2 days and cant decide yet |
| 15:51.10 | twobitsp1ite | !tell kqr about msg |
| 15:51.22 | kqr | twobitsp1ite: x] |
| 15:51.38 | twobitsp1ite | Assid: personally, I wouldn't use ubuntu for servers |
| 15:51.44 | kqr | twobitsp1ite: i'm lazy, i just copypasted x) |
| 15:51.48 | Assid | twobitsp1ite: but you would lenny? |
| 15:52.11 | twobitsp1ite | Assid: sure.. its frozen and will be stable soon |
| 15:52.18 | Assid | thats true |
| 15:52.18 | twobitsp1ite | kqr: :) |
| 15:52.22 | mjs1992 | Assid: I would never use ubuntu for systems that must be stable |
| 15:52.41 | Assid | using lenny.. it was my frist time playing with LVM |
| 15:52.44 | mjs1992 | lenny is IMO already stable^^ |
| 15:52.48 | Assid | i hopwe it was a good idea to use it |
| 15:53.04 | twobitsp1ite | mjs1992: well... its not "stable" as in "Debian Stable" |
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| 15:53.06 | kqr | but, when we're at it... dpkg's about msg is too long for ircd ^^ it gets truncated in the middle of an url x) |
| 15:53.19 | twobitsp1ite | kqr: true |
| 15:53.23 | twobitsp1ite | !factinfo msg |
| 15:53.23 | dpkg | msg -- last modified at Mon Dec 30 20:07:23 2002 by bignose!bignose@jeff51.zip.com.au; it has been requested 1299 times, last by twobitsp1ite, 2m 13s ago. |
| 15:53.34 | kqr | xD |
| 15:53.39 | twobitsp1ite | its been that way for years too :P |
| 15:53.43 | kqr | haha |
| 15:53.50 | kqr | maybe it's deliberate |
| 15:53.51 | kqr | i mean |
| 15:54.07 | kqr | it's not the most important part that gets truncated |
| 15:54.07 | kqr | x] |
| 15:54.09 | Assid | okay if i use xen's hypervisor.. i can probably still use openvz inside that.. but then i lose native.. crap.. i cant figure this out |
| 15:54.11 | twobitsp1ite | heh |
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| 15:54.23 | twobitsp1ite | Assid: right... it would be pointless |
| 15:54.48 | kqr | though, i thought all thought-trough bots should have an automatic length-check on messages.. oh well, i'm kinda offtopic now xD |
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| 15:55.23 | Assid | twobitsp1ite: you wouldnt happen to have any first hadn info on xen would you? i wanna know if there is something like cpuunits which lets you throttle cpu and ram and disk usagesto the VM |
| 15:56.32 | twobitsp1ite | Assid: I know you can put CPU quotas on VMs, but I'm not sure how to do it |
| 15:56.38 | twobitsp1ite | ask #xen |
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| 16:05.04 | hyper_ch | hmmm.... I currently use ext3 on a 1TB drive... it says like 925 GB available, 775 GB used and 103 GB free... however 775+103 do not sum up to 925. Why is that? |
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| 16:05.24 | enouf | Assid: not pertaining to VMs, but schedutils allows for CPU allocations and numa=fake allows for coarse memory management |
| 16:05.47 | abrotman | hyper_ch: how much did you reserve for root ? |
| 16:05.50 | asg | hyper_ch: by default, ext3 filesystems reserve 5% or so for root's use only |
| 16:05.56 | twobitsp1ite | gah.... I can't find anything about my wireless card on google |
| 16:06.03 | hyper_ch | abrotman: asg: default, so would be 5% |
| 16:06.09 | enouf | hyper_ch: tune2fs -l /dev/name1 |
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| 16:06.27 | newsense | twobitsp1ite: http://linuxwireless.org/ |
| 16:06.28 | enouf | find reserved root sectors item |
| 16:06.29 | abrotman | hyper_ch: paste the output of df -h in a pastebin |
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| 16:07.10 | newsense | twobitsp1ite: what card is it ? |
| 16:07.17 | hyper_ch | actually, it seems that 5% on those 925 GB are 46GB and then it adds up |
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| 16:08.04 | hyper_ch | but why would df -h still say all used even when run as root? |
| 16:08.51 | hyper_ch | http://phpfi.com/387999 |
| 16:09.20 | twobitsp1ite | newsense: BCM94311MCG |
| 16:10.04 | newsense | i us broadcom chip too |
| 16:10.05 | Assid | enouf: whats the binary for it.. i cant find that |
| 16:10.13 | abrotman | hyper_ch: because it's still used |
| 16:10.24 | enouf | Assid: for what? |
| 16:10.38 | Assid | utils-linux package for schedutils |
| 16:10.48 | enouf | Assid: on etch, i think there's only taskset .. otherwise in Lenny there's schedutils |
| 16:10.50 | hyper_ch | abrotman: ah ok :) well, I've been thinking about switching to XFS... most space is used by large files |
| 16:10.52 | newsense | twobitsp1ite: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43 |
| 16:10.58 | enouf | judd: versions schedutils |
| 16:10.59 | judd | enouf: schedutils -- etch: 1.5.0-1 |
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| 16:11.03 | enouf | oh |
| 16:11.10 | Assid | other way around :P |
| 16:11.17 | enouf | i'm sadly mistaken .. invert my answer :-P |
| 16:11.26 | twobitsp1ite | newsense: ok... bcm43 works for the bcm94311? |
| 16:11.44 | newsense | twobitsp1ite: yeah so install b43-fwcutter |
| 16:11.48 | AndreMilton | hi all !!!! do you know hom to get flash playaer plugin in iceweasel 2.0.0.3 with debian etch ? |
| 16:11.56 | enouf | Assid: i'm pretty sure kvm was working on those sorts of features you desire |
| 16:12.08 | enouf | Assid: not to mention .. look at lguest? |
| 16:12.35 | Assid | lguest ? i might need a windows vps on each hardware node |
| 16:12.41 | enouf | !tell AndreMilton -about flashplugin-nonfree |
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| 16:13.40 | twobitsp1ite | newsense: ok... installed |
| 16:13.51 | newsense | did you allow it to dl the firmware ? |
| 16:13.55 | twobitsp1ite | yep |
| 16:14.09 | newsense | ok should work now |
| 16:14.25 | Hesham | i've installed debian gnu linux 4.0 r3 etch on my pc without network neither soundcard plugged in, now i have network and soundcard plugged in. how to install the appropraite drivers for those cards on debian ? |
| 16:14.29 | twobitsp1ite | do I still need to set up ndiswrapper? |
| 16:14.33 | newsense | no |
| 16:14.40 | newsense | uses b43 module |
| 16:14.47 | newsense | lsmod |grep b43 |
| 16:15.03 | AndreMilton | I allready installed flashplugin nonfree and it doesnt work |
| 16:15.05 | twobitsp1ite | ok |
| 16:15.08 | newsense | loaded ? |
| 16:15.11 | twobitsp1ite | yep |
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| 16:15.16 | mjs1992 | Hesham, for sound install "alsa-base" |
| 16:15.22 | enouf | Hesham: /msg dpkg which driver |
| 16:15.37 | twobitsp1ite | newsense: dhclient says network is down |
| 16:15.46 | newsense | iwconfig to set it up |
| 16:15.55 | newsense | like iwconfig wlan0 essid myssid |
| 16:15.55 | Assid | hrmm apparently on lenny you can install this: linux-modules-2.6.26-1-xen-amd64 |
| 16:15.57 | newsense | etc.. |
| 16:16.03 | cahoot | twobitsp1ite: also need b43-fwcutter |
| 16:16.17 | twobitsp1ite | ok, well, I already have that stuff in my interfaces file... |
| 16:16.19 | AndreMilton | in my /usr/lib/firefox/plugins directory i put libflashplayer.co |
| 16:16.24 | newsense | twobitsp1ite: man interfaces , man wireless |
| 16:16.25 | twobitsp1ite | cahoot: yeah, already got that, thanks :) |
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| 16:17.14 | Hesham | mjs1992 alsa-base is already installed, reinstall it? |
| 16:17.16 | Assid | i dont understand .. do i need the whole kernel ? |
| 16:17.17 | twobitsp1ite | newsense: ifup says "already configured" |
| 16:17.32 | Assid | shouldnt that module be enough |
| 16:17.34 | adb | AndreMilton: put it in /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins |
| 16:17.34 | newsense | use iwconfig first |
| 16:17.53 | newsense | twobitsp1ite: use iwconfig to set essid channel enc etc first |
| 16:17.53 | twobitsp1ite | Assid: xen uses a modified kernel for paravirt VMs |
| 16:17.55 | mjs1992 | Hesham: try to start alsamixer |
| 16:18.15 | twobitsp1ite | newsense: like I said, that's all in my interfaces file, and iwconfig shows the ESSID, etc |
| 16:18.15 | mjs1992 | there you can set the volume |
| 16:18.26 | twobitsp1ite | ohh wait... it shows channle 0 |
| 16:18.29 | newsense | does it show thew wlan mac under ap ? |
| 16:18.37 | newsense | or not associated ? |
| 16:18.48 | twobitsp1ite | ahh... not-associated |
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| 16:18.57 | Assid | twobitsp1ite: linux-image-2.6.26-1-xen-amd64 then ? apt- says thats the old style kernel |
| 16:18.59 | AndreMilton | adb i allready put libflashplayer.so in my /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins/directory |
| 16:19.00 | Hesham | mjs1992 function snd_ctl_open failed for default : no such device |
| 16:19.02 | newsense | use iwconfig wlan0 essid essid for example |
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| 16:19.25 | phlux | I'm running lenny, but for some reason, my laptop won't boot any kernel other than etchnhalf |
| 16:19.26 | newsense | twobitsp1ite: man iwconfig, man interfaces, man wireless |
| 16:19.27 | mjs1992 | Hesham, then I'm sorry - I don't know how to solve this problem |
| 16:19.29 | phlux | nay ideas? |
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| 16:19.31 | phlux | any, rather |
| 16:19.46 | Hesham | anybody can help please? |
| 16:19.56 | mjs1992 | phlux: maybe your hardware is too new for older kernels? |
| 16:19.57 | AndreMilton | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:19.57 | AndreMilton | LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /root/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so [/lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.4' not found (required by /root/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so)] |
| 16:20.15 | twobitsp1ite | newsense: ok thanks... I'll try to figure it out from here |
| 16:20.28 | newsense | twobitsp1ite: can use iwlist wlan0 scanning to see aps |
| 16:20.30 | newsense | np |
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| 16:20.40 | newsense | where wlan0 is your device |
| 16:20.40 | enouf | Hesham: install alsa-utils, alsa-oss as well .. run dpkg-reconfigure linux-sound-base .. run alsaconf as root - /msg dpkg alsa |
| 16:20.42 | adb | AndreMilton: why as root ?, use user ,,,logout/login or reboot |
| 16:20.49 | enouf | Hesham: er /msg dpkg alsa checklist |
| 16:20.52 | twobitsp1ite | newsense: no scan results |
| 16:20.54 | phlux | mjs1992, I can't run newer kernels |
| 16:20.56 | phlux | That's the issue |
| 16:21.04 | DevilChaos | hey folks would like a few pointers on ssh set up or url to a good qwuick guide please? |
| 16:21.11 | phlux | I can only boot etchnhalf |
| 16:21.14 | phlux | I'm not running etch |
| 16:21.20 | Hesham | and what about the network card enouf ? |
| 16:21.24 | newsense | twobitsp1ite: does it show when ya run ifconfig ? |
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| 16:21.48 | twobitsp1ite | DevilChaos: aptitude install ssh-server |
| 16:21.49 | DevilChaos | ssh! |
| 16:21.58 | twobitsp1ite | newsense: nope |
| 16:22.00 | DevilChaos | ok cool |
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| 16:22.08 | newsense | twobitsp1ite: if ya run ifdown devive do you get an error ? |
| 16:22.09 | DevilChaos | !ssh |
| 16:22.09 | dpkg | rumour has it, ssh is the Secure SHell; "aptitude install ssh" (www.openssh.org). Clients for other platforms include <putty><cygwin><niftytelnet> or MacSSH. It's _unwise_ to enable both RSA and password authentication. Firewalls to mitigate against brute-force attacks on your ssh server include <fail2ban> <denyhosts>. Also see <scp><sftp><ssh without password><sshx><ssh linedraw><debug sshd>. |
| 16:22.19 | twobitsp1ite | DevilChaos: you can /msg the bots |
| 16:22.19 | enouf | Hesham: what about following the factoid that dpkg told you about? |
| 16:22.25 | DevilChaos | oops |
| 16:22.28 | DevilChaos | cheers |
| 16:22.34 | AndreMilton | im a newbie on unix system i believe chmod on my libflashplayer.so is only executable by root whatever it doesnt work with root too |
| 16:22.46 | twobitsp1ite | newsense: SET failed on device wlan0 ; Invalid argument. |
| 16:22.52 | enouf | Hesham: /msg dpkg interfaces , and /msg dpkg resolv.conf (as well) |
| 16:22.56 | adb | AndreMilton: install iceweasel , don't use firefox |
| 16:23.29 | Hesham | enouf okay |
| 16:23.29 | enouf | AndreMilton: don't run a browser as root! |
| 16:23.30 | newsense | twobitsp1ite: whats you /etc/network/interfaces look like ? |
| 16:23.55 | newsense | brb coffee refill |
| 16:24.23 | twobitsp1ite | newsense: http://pastebin.com/m439249fd |
| 16:24.29 | twobitsp1ite | newsense: k |
| 16:24.37 | mjs1992 | coffee refill - what a good idea^^ |
| 16:25.16 | twobitsp1ite | newsense: oops... forgot to scrub me key... you don't live in NC do you? :P |
| 16:25.30 | newsense | no chicago haha |
| 16:25.34 | twobitsp1ite | :) |
| 16:26.02 | newsense | twobitsp1ite: remove mode line or comment out |
| 16:26.23 | newsense | than bring device down/up and run ifconfig |
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| 16:26.27 | twobitsp1ite | newsense: ok, now it just says "not configured" |
| 16:26.31 | twobitsp1ite | ... when I run ifdown |
| 16:27.06 | newsense | twobitsp1ite: bring it up |
| 16:27.13 | twobitsp1ite | newsense: http://pastebin.com/meac5071 |
| 16:27.34 | enouf | phlux: you're doing something wrong |
| 16:27.49 | twobitsp1ite | newsense: do I need to quote my key? |
| 16:27.56 | newsense | twobitsp1ite: no |
| 16:28.14 | newsense | try to set it manually essid and channel and key from prompt |
| 16:28.25 | twobitsp1ite | newsense: with iwconfig? |
| 16:28.34 | DevilChaos | cheers guys peace :) |
| 16:28.36 | Assid | error 13 : invalid or unsupported executable format |
| 16:28.38 | ktwilight | is there a command that enables me to list all the variables available for getconf? |
| 16:28.39 | newsense | twobitsp1ite: yes than run dhclient |
| 16:28.39 | Assid | error when loading :( |
| 16:28.40 | Assid | wtf |
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| 16:29.08 | newsense | twobitsp1ite: ive had issues myself with the card not associating unless i set essid manually using iwconfig |
| 16:29.17 | Assid | it doesnt support lvm ? |
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| 16:29.38 | Pig_Pen | hey enouf, long time since i been in the same channel as you |
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| 16:29.51 | twobitsp1ite | newsense: same thing |
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| 16:30.00 | enouf | Pig_Pen: !! |
| 16:30.00 | woden | What is the RSS reader for GNOME? |
| 16:30.19 | newsense | does it show up with iwlist device scanning / |
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| 16:30.28 | Pig_Pen | hi enouf, whats going on you bad boy? |
| 16:30.28 | mjs1992 | liferea |
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| 16:30.45 | twobitsp1ite | newsense: could it be because I need to specify that its WPA instead of WEP? |
| 16:30.54 | newsense | lol |
| 16:30.57 | newsense | yeah |
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| 16:31.01 | newsense | get wpa-supplicant |
| 16:31.06 | twobitsp1ite | where do I set that? |
| 16:31.12 | newsense | get it from apt |
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| 16:32.11 | twobitsp1ite | ok... so is there something else I need to say in iwconfig line, or does it detect from the key format? |
| 16:32.36 | newsense | man wpa-supplicant |
| 16:32.37 | twobitsp1ite | well... got it installed, but the command still says "invalid argument" for my key |
| 16:32.44 | newsense | i havent used wpa in a while i forget |
| 16:32.55 | newsense | its a little extra few lines in interfaces file |
| 16:33.07 | md22 | question: it he sofwtare selection screen when doing the net install tehre is an entry for sql databse and i am wondering what database server it is ? |
| 16:33.10 | cahoot | already configged wpa-supplicant? |
| 16:33.22 | abrotman | md22: postgresql i believe |
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| 16:34.05 | abrotman | md22: yes it is |
| 16:34.11 | md22 | ok |
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| 16:36.28 | twobitsp1ite | newsense: bleh... I just switched it to WEP... still no dice |
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| 16:36.47 | newsense | twobitsp1ite: still getting error ? |
| 16:37.06 | twobitsp1ite | yeah... the iwconfig doesn't complain any more... but dhclient doesn't like it |
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| 16:37.13 | twobitsp1ite | and it still says not-associated |
| 16:37.21 | newsense | what dhclient say |
| 16:37.23 | Pupeno | Does anybody know if an AVI may contain the time and date when it was recorded and if so, how do I extract it? |
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| 16:38.02 | twobitsp1ite | newsense: http://pastebin.com/m5dd0dac |
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| 16:38.31 | woden | mjs1992: liferea, not blam or straw? |
| 16:38.32 | newsense | twobitsp1ite: try to set essid via iwconfig from prompt than dhclient again |
| 16:38.57 | mjs1992 | I think so, because its installed, when choosing the "gnome" package |
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| 16:39.33 | twobitsp1ite | Pupeno: http://www.google.com/search?q=avi+timestamp&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.debian:en-US:unofficial&client=iceweasel-a |
| 16:40.08 | twobitsp1ite | newsense: same thing |
| 16:40.10 | newsense | twobitsp1ite: what is the output from lspci ? |
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| 16:40.26 | twobitsp1ite | newsense: 0c:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 01) |
| 16:40.42 | newsense | twobitsp1ite: gimme a sec |
| 16:41.22 | liable | ugh, broadcom, good luck |
| 16:41.40 | twobitsp1ite | liable: yeah... I've been fighting with it all day |
| 16:41.43 | newsense | twobitsp1ite: whats your kerenel version ? |
| 16:41.52 | newsense | i got my bc working :) |
| 16:41.57 | twobitsp1ite | 2.6.24-1-686 |
| 16:42.19 | liable | twobitsp1ite: do yourself a favour and buy a $20 atheros minipci card and be done with it |
| 16:42.49 | twobitsp1ite | liable: i just might |
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| 16:43.20 | Irrumator | be sure to try ndiswrapper out first. i'm running my bcm4310 with it and it's working great |
| 16:43.28 | newsense | twobitsp1ite: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#fw-b43-old |
| 16:43.31 | liable | unless you have a retarded HP or IBM laptop |
| 16:44.00 | twobitsp1ite | liable: nope... just a retarded dell laptop |
| 16:44.14 | liable | twobitsp1ite: then your good |
| 16:45.00 | newsense | twobitsp1ite: get the firmware from that usr and use b43-fwcutter to extract it to /lib/firmware |
| 16:45.09 | twobitsp1ite | newsense: jesus.... I have to use an old version of fwcutter? |
| 16:45.19 | newsense | no |
| 16:45.30 | newsense | same version but use the firmware from that link |
| 16:45.33 | twobitsp1ite | ok, whew |
| 16:45.34 | newsense | older firmware file |
| 16:45.46 | newsense | ill help ya through it if ya need |
| 16:45.54 | twobitsp1ite | k |
| 16:45.57 | newsense | i had to figureit out on my own and it sucked |
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| 16:46.08 | liable | there is reverse enginered firmware if your feeling game |
| 16:46.31 | newsense | wget http://downloads.openwrt.org/sources/broadcom-wl-4.80.53.0.tar.bz2 |
| 16:46.48 | newsense | twobitsp1ite: thats the url to the firmware |
| 16:47.27 | twobitsp1ite | newsense: yeah, got it.. thanks |
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| 16:48.41 | stoned | good morning |
| 16:48.43 | twobitsp1ite | ok... it doesn't seem to say what to do after extracting to /lib/firmware |
| 16:49.24 | newsense | twobitsp1ite: you didnt nextract there manually did ya ? |
| 16:49.34 | newsense | twobitsp1ite: ya used b43-fwcutter right ? |
| 16:49.38 | twobitsp1ite | I used the cutter |
| 16:49.40 | twobitsp1ite | right |
| 16:49.53 | newsense | bring the device down and up and try it |
| 16:49.55 | stoned | sounds like a PokeMon move |
| 16:50.01 | twobitsp1ite | lol |
| 16:50.04 | stoned | pikachu, FW CUTTER! |
| 16:50.05 | stoned | now! |
| 16:50.08 | newsense | haha |
| 16:52.04 | newsense | twobitsp1ite: any luck ? |
| 16:52.25 | twobitsp1ite | newsense: hmm... still says network is down |
| 16:52.29 | Hesham | enouf the network icon is "no network device can be found" |
| 16:52.32 | twobitsp1ite | when trying to dhclient |
| 16:52.51 | newsense | probobly not associted |
| 16:52.54 | twobitsp1ite | but it seems to have found the MAC this time |
| 16:53.04 | newsense | key is wrong maybe ? |
| 16:53.10 | newsense | or ya got mac filtering ? |
| 16:53.21 | twobitsp1ite | nope |
| 16:53.32 | twobitsp1ite | copy and pasted the key from my router's web interface |
| 16:53.42 | newsense | if it shows mac in iwconfig its associated |
| 16:54.19 | twobitsp1ite | er ... no, doesn't show in iwconfig... but dhclient lists a MAC |
| 16:54.26 | twobitsp1ite | Listening on LPF/wlan0/00:17:31:e5:04:96 |
| 16:54.33 | twobitsp1ite | ^^ from dhclient |
| 16:54.37 | newsense | twobitsp1ite: dows iwconfig show aps mac ? |
| 16:54.43 | newsense | twobitsp1ite: thats what i meant |
| 16:54.59 | twobitsp1ite | nope |
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| 16:55.18 | newsense | twobitsp1ite: run iwconfig <device> scanning |
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| 16:55.34 | twobitsp1ite | you mean, iwlist? :) |
| 16:55.39 | twobitsp1ite | no scan results |
| 16:55.42 | newsense | err sorry yeah |
| 16:56.19 | newsense | which file did you extract using b43-fwcutter ? |
| 16:56.52 | cahoot | installing b43-fwcutter does the job |
| 16:56.55 | twobitsp1ite | the command from the page you gave me: sudo ../../b43-fwcutter-011/b43-fwcutter -w "$FIRMWARE_INSTALL_DIR" wl_apsta.o |
| 16:57.06 | twobitsp1ite | cahoot: it hasn't yet :P |
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| 16:57.33 | newsense | twobitsp1ite: ya got a /lib/modules/b43 dir ? |
| 16:57.47 | twobitsp1ite | no |
| 16:58.04 | newsense | ya did something wrong |
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| 16:58.45 | twobitsp1ite | doh |
| 16:59.00 | twobitsp1ite | any idea what I might have messed up? |
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| 17:00.00 | newsense | yes |
| 17:00.24 | newsense | you extracted the file you dled right ? |
| 17:00.42 | twobitsp1ite | this one: http://downloads.openwrt.org/sources/broadcom-wl-4.80.53.0.tar.bz2 ? |
| 17:00.47 | newsense | theres a driver dir within that go there |
| 17:00.50 | newsense | yes |
| 17:01.04 | twobitsp1ite | kmod? |
| 17:01.25 | newsense | might be for that ver |
| 17:01.32 | newsense | should be wl_apsta.o |
| 17:01.38 | newsense | in that dir |
| 17:01.44 | twobitsp1ite | yep |
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| 17:02.00 | newsense | run b43-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware wl_apsta.o |
| 17:02.09 | Thumpity | Anyone know how to fix this issue on Debian Sid? http://paste.debian.net/23530 |
| 17:02.16 | twobitsp1ite | I used fwcutter on in, like the web page said: sudo b43-fwcutter -w "$FIRMWARE_INSTALL_DIR" wl_apsta.o |
| 17:02.28 | newsense | just dop what i said |
| 17:02.30 | twobitsp1ite | well... $FIRMWARE... is set to /lib/firmware |
| 17:02.36 | newsense | ok good |
| 17:02.38 | abrotman | Thumpity: install the package that has tools.jar ? |
| 17:02.54 | twobitsp1ite | I have a /lib/firmware/b43 |
| 17:03.01 | Thumpity | abrotman: know what package that may be? |
| 17:03.02 | newsense | ok now try to connect |
| 17:03.05 | twobitsp1ite | but still no /lib/modules/b43 |
| 17:03.13 | abrotman | !tell Thumpity about apt-file |
| 17:03.17 | newsense | thought the module was loaded already |
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| 17:03.56 | twobitsp1ite | it is... I have b43 in my lsmod |
| 17:04.17 | twobitsp1ite | bleh... anyways I have to go... I'll hack on this some more late |
| 17:04.37 | twobitsp1ite | newsense: thanks a bunch for your help... I think you've got me going in the right direction at least |
| 17:04.56 | newsense | np |
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| 17:06.06 | cahoot | twobitsp1ite: it's /lib/firmware |
| 17:06.16 | abrotman | Thumpity: find it ? |
| 17:06.48 | newsense | twobitsp1ite: sorry i just noticed i had said /lib/modules sorry was fighting with the girlfriend when i said that |
| 17:07.39 | cahoot | twobitsp1ite: modprobe -r b43, then modprobe 43 and study dmesg |
| 17:08.10 | cahoot | twobitsp1ite: err modprobe b43 |
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| 17:12.51 | mjs1992 | hi lo |
| 17:12.53 | lo | hi |
| 17:13.24 | Pupeno | twobitsp1ite: I did similar searches without any succes. Most is for Windows and/or graphical tools. I need it on the command line. |
| 17:13.35 | Thumpity | abrotman: Yes, that worked great! Exactly what I needed. Thanks! |
| 17:13.50 | Thumpity | abrotman: package was sun-java6-jdk by the way |
| 17:13.59 | abrotman | i know |
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| 17:14.12 | stoned | hey how can I change what instrument/tonebank a midi file uses? |
| 17:14.23 | stoned | instead of remapping instrumetns mysel fin the config |
| 17:15.09 | cahoot | stoned: try #lad? |
| 17:15.15 | stoned | whats that? |
| 17:15.24 | stoned | i see |
| 17:15.28 | stoned | cool |
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| 17:16.09 | zxxd | hi |
| 17:16.16 | zxxd | hey what does pipe mean in rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 134.426/214.298/347.530/32.103 ms, pipe 18 , ping command |
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| 17:19.02 | Thumpity | dumb question, is the OPT in the /opt directory short for options? is that just a directory normally used for miscellaneous installs? |
| 17:19.15 | cahoot | optional? |
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| 17:19.29 | standalf | can you give me better advice than dpkg, how to install ntfs-3g? I downloaded it but I don't know how to install |
| 17:19.41 | standalf | I don't have any configure directory there |
| 17:19.48 | abrotman | !tell standalf about ntfs-3g |
| 17:19.49 | Thumpity | isnt ntfs-3g in the repo |
| 17:19.54 | abrotman | not in etch |
| 17:20.00 | Thumpity | hmm |
| 17:20.17 | standalf | :/ |
| 17:20.18 | Thumpity | maybe ./config make make-install |
| 17:20.25 | abrotman | !fhs |
| 17:20.26 | dpkg | Debian follows the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard. The filesystem is categorized by purpose, not application. This allows, for example, the easy and efficient deployment of a read-only /usr area across a number of thin clients. See http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ or install the 'debian-policy' package (/usr/share/doc/debian-policy/fhs/*), or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard |
| 17:20.30 | abrotman | Thumpity: ^^ |
| 17:20.34 | standalf | it doesn't make any sense |
| 17:20.37 | abrotman | !tell standalf about bpo |
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| 17:22.45 | Thumpity | abrotman: wow... that is more info that I needed, but it looks good, I am actually going to read through it, thanks. |
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| 17:24.10 | standalf | and also I installed binaries of ATI drivers, so 3D game (tremulous) works.... but now I have every 2nd nick in konversation black... the same is in krusader programme |
| 17:24.21 | standalf | don't you know how can I fix that? |
| 17:24.25 | mythomaniac | Thumpity: abrotman, though uppity and at times to critical, does hold a wealth of info - if only we could just wire his mind up to a central severer and grep his mind for the answers ;) |
| 17:25.14 | abrotman | puts mythomaniac on his 'do not help' list |
| 17:25.24 | mythomaniac | cries |
| 17:25.32 | abrotman | standalf: did you try another X driver ? |
| 17:25.36 | cahoot | ten years in #debian takes its toll? |
| 17:25.41 | standalf | nono, I use vesa |
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| 17:25.51 | abrotman | you just said you're using fglrx |
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| 17:26.32 | standalf | aha, yea fglrx, I was using vesa |
| 17:26.52 | standalf | with vesa was everything perfect except 3D game :/ |
| 17:26.55 | standalf | it didn't work |
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| 17:28.28 | mythomaniac | truth be known, abrotman, your knowledge is second to none in here |
| 17:28.38 | Thumpity | mythomaniac: dump info abrotman | grep interesting or useful | cat saved.txt |
| 17:28.53 | abrotman | mythomaniac: that's not true at all |
| 17:28.55 | mythomaniac | Thumpity: hehe |
| 17:29.06 | Thumpity | lol |
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| 17:31.03 | Error4o4 | dpkg -l says gcc is installed but cant find the executable. any idea? |
| 17:31.03 | dpkg | No packages found matching says gcc is installed but cant find the executable. any idea |
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| 17:31.40 | abrotman | !b-e Error4o4 |
| 17:31.40 | dpkg | Error4o4: Sounds like you need to aptitude install build-essential. |
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| 17:33.16 | seto | hi, I owne a mobile phone, with an 1go sdcard inside, I can use this device like a mass storage usb, can I use it to install debian ? ( install syslinux + make mbr on in + copy an iso ) ? |
| 17:33.34 | jberg- | im reading about wireless in debian and about NetworkManager and about it's especially useful for WiFi. is WiFi something else than regular wlan/wireless? |
| 17:33.43 | bjorkLinux | no |
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| 17:33.56 | standalf | :/ |
| 17:34.29 | jberg- | oh, WiFi just uses wpa as encryption instead of wep, i think? |
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| 17:35.17 | woden | How do you set the default download location in GNOME? |
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| 17:36.41 | abrotman | woden: probably depends on your browser |
| 17:37.14 | Agiofws | hello does anyone have a dreambox ? |
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| 17:37.55 | woden | abrotman: I want to set the default for all applications in my gnome desktop environment. |
| 17:38.08 | abrotman | i don't know that there is a single place |
| 17:38.20 | woden | abrotman: whether that be epiphany, transmission, pidgin, etc.. |
| 17:39.09 | Error4o4 | abrotman: ok thx |
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| 17:43.34 | Pupeno | How can I get the access time of a file in a specific format? date --date=$(stat --format="%x" file.txt) fails. |
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| 17:45.04 | Ancient | hey can someone help me set up ant on debian. i apt-get installed it but it won't work :-( |
| 17:45.39 | hoxu | !doesn't work |
| 17:45.39 | dpkg | Look buddy, "doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message". |
| 17:46.22 | Ancient | Unable to locate tools.jar. Expected to find it in /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-gcj-4.3-1.5.0.0/lib/tools.jar |
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| 17:47.09 | abrotman | !tell Ancient about apt-file |
| 17:47.09 | hoxu | Ancient, maybe you should be using sun java? |
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| 17:47.44 | abrotman | hoxu: why? |
| 17:47.46 | Ancient | i got gcj to be bale to gdb my java programs |
| 17:47.49 | Ancient | able |
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| 17:48.02 | abrotman | Ancient: use apt-file to find the package that has that file |
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| 17:48.12 | hoxu | abrotman, just a wild guess |
| 17:48.29 | abrotman | hoxu: silly |
| 17:48.55 | hoxu | well, in my experience sun's java works :p |
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| 17:49.09 | abrotman | hoxu: scroll up for someone having the same issue with the sun java |
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| 17:49.21 | hoxu | Pupeno, man stat |
| 17:49.26 | Ancient | bash: apt-file: command not found |
| 17:49.33 | hoxu | !installit |
| 17:49.33 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! *** Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. If someone suggests an application to you, it's highly likely that it's available via apt-get or aptitude. |
| 17:50.09 | abrotman | !tell Ancient about apt-file |
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| 17:51.30 | Ancient | thx |
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| 17:51.49 | rio | is there a way to completely remove locales and use the C everywhere? |
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| 17:53.39 | enouf | C == English? |
| 17:53.49 | enouf | use en_US |
| 17:54.14 | enouf | rio: i make use of localepurge as well |
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| 17:56.14 | Schiz0|SD | How can I find out the FSB speed of my CPU? Also, the CPU's cache? |
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| 17:56.24 | cahoot | dmidecode? |
| 17:56.32 | Schiz0|SD | My host says I should have 8 MB cache, but phpsysinfo says 4 :-\ |
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| 17:57.17 | abrotman | !tell Schiz0|SD about whats my hardware |
| 17:57.22 | hoxu | Ancient, you have only the JRE, no JDK? |
| 17:57.41 | rio | enouf: i dont want to generate a locale when i just can use the texts that are in the binaries |
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| 17:58.03 | Ancient | im quite sure i have the jdk as i can happily "javac" stuff |
| 17:58.10 | enouf | rio: then rewrite your own OS :-P or set all your locales to C |
| 17:58.28 | Ancient | right i tried to run apt-file update i get |
| 17:58.37 | enouf | er.. your LC_ALL and all the others |
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| 17:59.07 | Ancient | apt-file update |
| 17:59.08 | Ancient | Can't get http://security.debian.org/dists/lenny/updates/Contents-amd64.gz |
| 17:59.08 | Ancient | Can't get http://apt.64studio.com/64studio/testing/dists/64studio/Contents-amd64.gz |
| 17:59.20 | abrotman | Ancient: we don't support 64studio here .. go away |
| 17:59.43 | Ancient | fair enough |
| 17:59.44 | hoxu | Ancient, try installing a JDK |
| 17:59.45 | Ancient | thanks anyway |
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| 17:59.59 | hoxu | Ancient, abrotman's comment was uncalled for, just ignore it :P |
| 18:00.06 | Ancient | ok |
| 18:00.16 | abrotman | hoxu: no it's not .. he needs to go to another channel |
| 18:00.37 | hoxu | if he has a problem with debian's ant and java, I think that's very much on topic |
| 18:00.46 | abrotman | hoxu: he's not using debian |
| 18:00.46 | valdyn | i wonder how installing a jdk is supposed to fix http://security.debian.org/dists/lenny/updates/Contents-amd64.gz |
| 18:01.24 | hoxu | abrotman, 64studio some debian-based distro? Didn't know that |
| 18:01.30 | abrotman | yes it's debian-based |
| 18:01.46 | abrotman | Ancient: hoxu isn't that smart .. you'll have to get support in the 64studio channel or ##linux |
| 18:01.54 | Ancient | ok |
| 18:01.55 | hoxu | eh |
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| 18:02.24 | Ancient | join ##linux |
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| 18:03.23 | Ancient | which is the 64 bit channel if i may ask |
| 18:03.41 | H2S04 | Do hard links behave differently in NTFS, I sysadmin part time for some companies, they hot swap hard drives every three months and put a new blank drive in. My backup system is incremental with hard links. Hard links seem to behave like symbolic links on this drive. |
| 18:04.02 | H2S04 | I figure it must be something with ntfs-3g or ntfs itself. |
| 18:04.22 | valdyn | ntfs supports hard links only since vista? |
| 18:04.27 | H2S04 | Would using ntfsmount or some other system fix this or is it inherent in NTFS? |
| 18:05.16 | H2S04 | valdyn, I dunno I did some google research and I am not finding a direct answer. |
| 18:05.17 | rgr | Rather than a shell autotimeout and close, is there a way to make it go to a login prompt? |
| 18:05.29 | H2S04 | Maybe I should search windows website itself. |
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| 18:06.27 | valdyn | nm, at least since 2005 |
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| 18:08.54 | H2S04 | valdyn, well I can't get them to behave like hard links |
| 18:09.15 | H2S04 | valdyn, I think microsoft calls them "hard-like-links" they act more like symbolic. |
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| 18:11.50 | valdyn | nah |
| 18:11.58 | valdyn | http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms810604.aspx |
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| 18:31.14 | lfaraone | Hi, I'm trying to use a serial mouse on a SPARC, any idea on how to get X to detect it? (EasyBall, btw) |
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| 18:32.22 | abrotman | lfaraone: do you know what the serial port is named? |
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| 18:34.21 | lfaraone | abrotman: Nope. It's labeled "B" on the back of the box |
| 18:34.37 | strog_ | i wanted to know how can i extract a series of tar files on the konsole |
| 18:35.07 | abrotman | lfaraone: do you have a /dev/ttyS0 ? |
| 18:35.10 | hoxu | strog_, something like $ for i in *.tar; do tar -zxf "$i"; done |
| 18:35.28 | jberg- | hmm, my router is using WPA2-PSK with AES encryption, but im not sure how to connect to the wireless net.. i've modified /etc/network/interfaces to include "iface wlan0 inet dhcp <\n> wpa-essid network <\n> wpa-key password" and made a wpa_supplicant.conf with network={ssid=network key_mgmt=WPA2-PSK psk="password"}, but now what? |
| 18:36.15 | strog_ | hoxu: is that a shellscript? |
| 18:36.17 | lfaraone | abrotman: yes |
| 18:36.41 | abrotman | lfaraone: so try one of like /dev/ttyS0 or /dev/ttyS1 |
| 18:36.43 | lfaraone | (lenny, btw) |
| 18:36.44 | cahoot | jberg-: Id suggest running wpa-supplicant from cli until you got it right |
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| 18:36.53 | lfaraone | abrotman: I'm not sure how to tell Xorg what to use as the mouse |
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| 18:37.12 | abrotman | lfaraone: man xorg.conf |
| 18:38.37 | sylar | is anyone on etch here? |
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| 18:38.59 | sylar | can anyone with etch check http://www.nvidia.com/page/products.html in epiphany vs firefox? |
| 18:39.50 | j-u-l-i-a-n | i have etch. |
| 18:40.06 | sylar | cahoot, http://tinysave.net/quick/viewer.php?id=401431epiphany2.GIF |
| 18:40.07 | lfaraone | abrotman: if I just plugged it in, would I have to reboot for it to be detected? |
| 18:40.19 | hoxu | strog_, one-liner for bash, I think that was what you asked for? |
| 18:40.19 | abrotman | can't recall with serial mice |
| 18:40.35 | sylar | j-u-l-i-a-n, that is what i see on that web page |
| 18:40.53 | sylar | cahoot, sorry |
| 18:41.04 | cahoot | I'll live |
| 18:41.05 | sylar | j-u-l-i-a-n, see this http://tinysave.net/quick/viewer.php?id=401431epiphany2.GIF |
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| 18:41.28 | sylar | cahoot, cheers :) |
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| 18:41.46 | sylar | j-u-l-i-a-n, do you have epiphany? |
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| 18:43.20 | jberg- | cahoot, but wpa_cli says it can't connect to wpa_supplicant, and i don't understand what those control sockets/files are? |
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| 18:43.41 | cahoot | jberg-: just run wpa-supplicant |
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| 18:44.07 | cahoot | jberg-: just run wpa-supplicant it will tell you the correct command |
| 18:44.56 | lfaraone | Hi, according to http://packages.debian.org/lenny/joystick joystick exists in lenny, but I get an error when I try to install it that it doesn't exist. |
| 18:45.11 | lfaraone | Nvm, it just doens't support Sparc. :( |
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| 18:45.47 | j-u-l-i-a-n | sylar: wait. |
| 18:45.57 | sylar | j-u-l-i-a-n, ok |
| 18:46.27 | jberg- | cahoot, it failed to parse almost everything. ssid, key_mgmt=WPA2-PSK etc |
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| 18:46.59 | cahoot | jberg-: you have a wpa_supplicant.conf? |
| 18:47.01 | j-u-l-i-a-n | i need a user a password. for upload a image tu tinysave.net? |
| 18:47.08 | sylar | no |
| 18:47.19 | j-u-l-i-a-n | yes |
| 18:47.29 | sylar | I didn't |
| 18:47.58 | sylar | just use the browse |
| 18:48.16 | j-u-l-i-a-n | sylar: http://tinysave.net/quick/images/759599nvidia.com.png |
| 18:48.52 | j-u-l-i-a-n | ok? |
| 18:48.53 | sylar | j-u-l-i-a-n, and epiphany? |
| 18:48.59 | j-u-l-i-a-n | wait |
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| 18:49.45 | jberg- | cahoot, yes. it seems it can't parse key_mgmt=WPA2-PSK should i try WPA-PSK instead? |
| 18:49.46 | Led_Zeppelin | is there a good filesystem for archiving data? for example, it will do auto compress for you... |
| 18:49.58 | j-u-l-i-a-n | upsss |
| 18:50.03 | j-u-l-i-a-n | Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 8388608 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 5242880 bytes) in /home/sites/tinysave.net/public_html/quick/basic.php on line 43 |
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| 18:50.36 | cahoot | jberg- yes try that |
| 18:50.50 | j-u-l-i-a-n | sylar: i have a problem for upload |
| 18:50.55 | tdn | How can I rename every file in a folder, so that each file name becomes $isodate-$oldfilename, where $isodate is the last modification date for the file and $oldfilename is the file's original name; such that a file called foo.txt will be called 2008-06-23-foo.txt, if it was last modified on 23rd of june 2008. |
| 18:50.57 | sylar | ah |
| 18:51.24 | sylar | j-u-l-i-a-n, maybe imagebin.ca (I used tinysave.net due to imagebin.ca was down) |
| 18:51.26 | cahoot | jberg- key_mgmt=WPA-PSK \nproto=WPA2 - works fine here |
| 18:51.38 | j-u-l-i-a-n | Sylar ... I have trouble uploading the image, but in any of the 2. I see the same thing. |
| 18:51.47 | Mandar_M | hi to all |
| 18:52.06 | jberg- | cahootm ah |
| 18:52.15 | sylar | j-u-l-i-a-n, ok, then I guess I have some local problem |
| 18:52.25 | j-u-l-i-a-n | http://imagebin.ca/view/qcoSKVY.html |
| 18:52.28 | sylar | j-u-l-i-a-n, what version is your epiphany? |
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| 18:52.40 | j-u-l-i-a-n | 2.22.3 |
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| 18:52.51 | sylar | j-u-l-i-a-n, on etch? |
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| 18:52.59 | j-u-l-i-a-n | mmm yes.. mmmm |
| 18:53.30 | Mandar_M | can anyone tell me how can i resolve the following problem i am getting error when i boot my x86 m/c that waiting for root partition and my pc waits doing nothing?? |
| 18:53.39 | sylar | j-u-l-i-a-n, I have only 2.14 |
| 18:53.46 | mker | How can I share a folder (like /media/disk/mystuff ) with SFTP? I want the user to be locked in by using ChrootDirectory in sshd_config. So far I've only been able to share /home/sftpuser but as soon as I change the directory to something else I can't log in anymore. |
| 18:53.50 | j-u-l-i-a-n | Sorry, but I have to lenny repositories. |
| 18:54.50 | hoxu | mker, you could bind mount that. Or make sure the user's home exists under /media/disk/mystuff |
| 18:54.50 | sylar | j-u-l-i-a-n, how does that work? |
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| 18:55.29 | j-u-l-i-a-n | Surely you have any problem with this version. I also do not use this browser, use firefox. |
| 18:55.37 | jberg- | cahoot, okay wpa_supplicant seems to be working fine in the background now. do i use iwconfig or wpa_cli to connect to the internet or what? |
| 18:56.01 | cahoot | jberg-: I'd suggest /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 18:56.13 | sylar | j-u-l-i-a-n, how do u get lenny repositories in etch? |
| 18:56.19 | _tux | i have a bunch of tar files that i want to extract. how do i do that in konsole with one command |
| 18:56.20 | j-u-l-i-a-n | I worked fine. I got it is servers, and I have not had any problems |
| 18:56.20 | _tux | ?? |
| 18:56.32 | mker | hoxu, I tried going to user settings and changing home directory to /media/disk/mystuff but that's when I can't log in anymore. I've pretty much followed this guide http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/590 |
| 18:57.06 | marsje | can someone tell me what the difference is between a system user and a normal user (besides the uid range)? |
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| 18:57.16 | cahoot | jberg-: like: iface wlan0 inet dhcp \n pre-up ip link set wlan0 up \n wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf |
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| 18:58.09 | _tux | hoxu: i have a bunch of tar files that i want to extract. how do i do that in konsole with one command |
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| 18:59.06 | lfaraone | abrotman: what should I set for ZAxisMapping? |
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| 18:59.29 | hoxu | mker, make sure you restart ssh when you change the config |
| 18:59.37 | hoxu | _tux, I told you earlier |
| 18:59.38 | abrotman | lfaraone: does the mouse have a wheel ? |
| 18:59.46 | jberg- | cahoot, thanks. where did you find out that, i havent seen anything like that on all the places ive read. i have an entry in /etc/network/interfaces though. do you need to restart inetd or something? |
| 18:59.50 | lfaraone | abrotman: No. |
| 19:00.01 | mker | hoxu, yep, done that too. |
| 19:00.04 | lfaraone | abrotman: it's a one-button egg-yoke trackpad |
| 19:00.08 | abrotman | lfaraone: then don't worry about it |
| 19:00.26 | _tux | hoxu:true but chatzilla went down and so did the command line |
| 19:00.29 | hoxu | marsje, "normal users" as you refer to them, when newly created, don't own any files in the system besides their ~ |
| 19:00.43 | _tux | hoxu: would be nice if you could retype it :) |
| 19:00.47 | cahoot | jberg-: inetd has nothing to to with this - you probably want auto wlan0 too |
| 19:00.58 | hoxu | marsje, there's nothing special about "system users" apart from the files/directories/etc they own or are in group with |
| 19:01.22 | hoxu | !tell mker about debug sshd |
| 19:01.34 | hoxu | !absg _tux |
| 19:01.34 | dpkg | _tux: abs-guide is the Advanced Bash-Scripting Guide to be found at http://www.tldp.org/guides.html#abs . It is also packaged, 'aptitude install abs-guide'. |
| 19:01.53 | hoxu | _tux, for i in *.tar; do tar -zxf "$i"; done # just an example |
| 19:01.53 | jberg- | cahoot i have auto wlan0 \n iface wlan0 inet dhcp \n wpa-ssid and wpa-key i think |
| 19:01.53 | cahoot | jberg-: (all the steps really are to be found in man pages for wpa_supplicant and interfaces ;) |
| 19:02.24 | jberg- | cahoot, i didn't think of the manpage for interfaces before now :) |
| 19:03.04 | marsje | hoxu: I'm trying to install a application server (Sun Glassfish), for which is no package available, so I thought to create a special user for it and install it in the user's home dir. So basically it does not matter whether it's a system user or not? |
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| 19:03.42 | lfaraone | abrotman: ok, I've tried S0 and S1 and it still seems to not work. (I don't think it has the right speed or something, when I tried S1 I at least got it to do _something_, it wiiized up to the right hand corner) |
| 19:04.00 | cahoot | jberg-: well man pages tend to make most sense if you already know how to do |
| 19:04.05 | abrotman | lfaraone: sounds like you picked the wrong protocol |
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| 19:04.56 | mker | hoxu, http://pastebin.com/d7abdbd55 |
| 19:05.02 | hoxu | marsje, you are probably speaking of the adduser --system option? As far as I know, there's no magic about those UID numbers, but someone may be able to correct me. But in this case it shouldn't matter regardless I think |
| 19:05.07 | pickcoder | <redmond>protocols aren't standards.. they're suggestions</redmond> |
| 19:05.14 | hoxu | marsje, s/UID numbers/UID ranges/ |
| 19:05.21 | jberg- | cahoot, yea :X |
| 19:05.55 | hoxu | mker, try -v or -vv etc from client side |
| 19:06.05 | marsje | hoxu: yes, I was talking about adduser --system indeed... I'll create a normal user then |
| 19:06.52 | lfaraone | abrotman: I went with "auto" |
| 19:07.03 | hoxu | mker, are you changing the user's home with usermod too? |
| 19:07.06 | abrotman | doesn't mean it's going to work |
| 19:07.11 | abrotman | pickcoder: the mouse protocol ... |
| 19:07.30 | pickcoder | same idea applies |
| 19:07.34 | pickcoder | :) |
| 19:07.53 | lfaraone | pickcoder: lol, it is a microsoft easyball... :P |
| 19:08.03 | pickcoder | I espcially love how outcast 2007 uses word's HTML rendering instead of IE |
| 19:08.06 | pickcoder | ~especially |
| 19:08.19 | mker | hoxu, you mean I do "/usr/sbin/sshd -d -p 2222" and then add -v in "ssh -p 2222 sftp@localhost" ? I change the users home in user settings, it looks like this -> Home directory: /media/disk/Media Shell: /bin/false |
| 19:08.19 | pickcoder | lets take HTML e-mails back 5-6 years |
| 19:08.25 | pickcoder | s/HTML// |
| 19:08.26 | lfaraone | (and the only serial mouse I have, I don't have any DIN-6s that the Sparc wants) |
| 19:08.41 | pickcoder | serial mice can be deadly |
| 19:08.45 | pickcoder | har har |
| 19:09.02 | hoxu | mker, and ChrootDirectory option looks like what? (yes, those are the commands) |
| 19:09.26 | lfaraone | pickcoder: any advice on how I can get the mouse squeaking? |
| 19:09.38 | pickcoder | heh |
| 19:09.43 | lfaraone | (other than it to teach it object-oriented-programming :P) |
| 19:09.48 | pickcoder | not with a Sparc |
| 19:10.00 | mker | hoxu, this is my sshd_config http://pastebin.com/d511428c5 |
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| 19:10.55 | hoxu | mker, and that exact same command works when the user's home is /home/$USER ? |
| 19:10.58 | hoxu | mker, err, config |
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| 19:11.26 | hoxu | mker, ah yes... check the permissions of /media/disk/Media against what sshd_config explains sshd requires |
| 19:12.01 | hoxu | mker, "This path, and all its components, must be root-owned directories that are not writable by any other user or group." |
| 19:12.22 | mker | hoxu, yep, exact same. It says the home directory should be owned by root and it is, I have the permissions set up in the exactly same way for /media/disk/Media and /home/sftpuser |
| 19:12.32 | abrotman | lfaraone: specify the protocol instead of using auto |
| 19:13.13 | hoxu | mker, output of "ls -ld /media/{,disk{,/Media}}" please |
| 19:13.16 | mker | hoxu, here is the -v and -vv stuff http://pastebin.com/d7df37381 |
| 19:13.28 | abrotman | lfaraone: FWIW .. the /dev/mouse is supposed to work for that |
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| 19:13.34 | abrotman | erm .. /dev/input/mice |
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| 19:14.11 | mker | hoxu, http://pastebin.com/d6d8ac24f |
| 19:14.41 | hoxu | mker, /media/disk is owned by "x", not root |
| 19:15.06 | hoxu | mker, if you can't fix the permissions I suggest you bind-mount the directory under /home/$USER/foo or something |
| 19:15.06 | mker | hoxu, Oooh, so the parent directory of the home directory must also be root? |
| 19:15.10 | lfaraone | abrotman: I have no idea what the protocol is supposed to be, nor has googling helped. |
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| 19:15.20 | abrotman | try Microsoft |
| 19:15.20 | hoxu | mker, yes, read the part I copy-pasted from the manpage above |
| 19:15.26 | abrotman | man 4 mouse .. there's a bunch listed |
| 19:15.36 | hoxu | mker, it says "all its components", meaning parent and ancestor directories |
| 19:15.50 | lfaraone | abrotman: /dev/input/mice, or /dev/input/mouse0? |
| 19:16.02 | mker | hoxu, I actually read it long ago but still didn't understand that :) I'll give it a try |
| 19:16.19 | abrotman | /dev/input/mice .. but it sounds like you already had the correct serial device, but your protocol was wrong |
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| 19:17.37 | mker | hoxu, Wow!! Thank you so much, I've been trying to solve this for ~2 weeks and almost no one has even replied. Spent so many hours on this and you solve it in a few minutes. You rock! |
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| 19:18.19 | hoxu | heh, thanks |
| 19:18.42 | zxxd | hi |
| 19:18.48 | zxxd | what does pipe mean in rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 134.426/214.298/347.530/32.103 ms, pipe 18 , ping command |
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| 19:20.01 | chuck | Hey, does anyone know if there are any dpkg's for Cheese floating around anywhere? |
| 19:20.37 | abrotman | huh? |
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| 19:23.27 | lfaraone | chuck: you mean .debs |
| 19:23.37 | lfaraone | chuck: and yes, in the repos. apt-get install cheese |
| 19:23.43 | abrotman | oh |
| 19:23.50 | lfaraone | abrotman: yeah, "microsoft" didn't work either. |
| 19:23.54 | abrotman | !tell lfaraone about why aptitude |
| 19:23.58 | letfunbegin | running a minimal etch. what program do I use to open a port? |
| 19:24.07 | lfaraone | letfunbegin: TCP port? |
| 19:24.13 | letfunbegin | yes |
| 19:24.14 | lfaraone | letfunbegin: what do you want to do with the port? |
| 19:24.22 | abrotman | letfunbegin: what do you mean "open" |
| 19:24.25 | hoxu | letfunbegin, there's no firewall by default, if you are firewalled it's probably something along the route |
| 19:24.33 | letfunbegin | I want to be able to connect directly to my server via a port |
| 19:24.37 | letfunbegin | oh, that might be |
| 19:24.39 | lfaraone | letfunbegin: if you just want to cat what comes in, use "netcat" |
| 19:24.51 | lfaraone | letfunbegin: connect... like to get a shell? |
| 19:24.51 | abrotman | letfunbegin: did you install something to allow you to login .. like openssh-server ? |
| 19:24.52 | MJS | what can I do, when Mplayer says: "MPlayer interrupted by signal 11 in module: demux_open" |
| 19:24.58 | hoxu | letfunbegin, make sure the box is not NAT'd too |
| 19:25.04 | jberg- | gah, in gnome i get that network icon where i can choose "connect to wireless" so i pick my wireless and choose WPA2 and AES and type in password but it can't connect. i've tried with iwconfig, wpa_supplicant and edited /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf, any ideas what i might try instead? |
| 19:25.13 | letfunbegin | yes (yes I have openssh-server) |
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| 19:25.39 | abrotman | lfaraone: there are other protocols to try |
| 19:25.41 | letfunbegin | I'm setting up znc and it needs to listen to a port in order for me to be able to log onto it |
| 19:25.43 | hoxu | letfunbegin, "tcptraceroute <host> 22" is your friend when figuring out where it gets blocked, if you have a debian box outside to test it |
| 19:25.58 | cahoot | jberg-: n-m and interfaces can't cowork - you choose one or the other method |
| 19:25.59 | letfunbegin | I'm doing this via ssh |
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| 19:26.41 | abrotman | lfaraone: maybe try the 'mdetect' package |
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| 19:26.47 | letfunbegin | trying tcptraceroute |
| 19:26.57 | lfaraone | abrotman: thx. |
| 19:27.00 | jberg- | cahoot, aha. maybe that's why my computer hang when i started doing stuff with n-m |
| 19:27.04 | cahoot | jberg-: if you wan network-manager you need comment out everything bu 'lo' in interfaces |
| 19:27.14 | lfaraone | letfunbegin: why _can't_ it listen? |
| 19:27.28 | lfaraone | letfunbegin: Choose a port above 1024. |
| 19:27.46 | letfunbegin | okay, so far I've tried 81 and such like, trying 1024 <- |
| 19:28.21 | jberg- | btw, i have a builtin wireless card and a pci wireless card. in iwconfig i see wlan0 and wmaster0, how can i see which of them is which? the pci wireless card has atheros chipset |
| 19:28.25 | lfaraone | letfunbegin: something like 46 |
| 19:28.28 | lfaraone | letfunbegin: something like 4617 |
| 19:28.29 | letfunbegin | wow. thanks for the help! |
| 19:28.48 | letfunbegin | 1025 made it work. so I definitely don't understand networking. thought ports had to be open (checked it using nmap) |
| 19:30.34 | hoxu | letfunbegin, ports below 1024 can only be listened on by root |
| 19:30.48 | letfunbegin | okay, I see |
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| 19:31.48 | buntfalke | Is anyone aware of aqbanking packages which actually work with smartcards? |
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| 19:33.06 | jberg- | do i need to uninstall NetworkManager and the gnome network tools? they are running in the background, are they interfering? |
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| 19:34.55 | jberg- | i rebooted and looked at dmesg, and wlan0 successfully authenticated and associated with the AP, but then it said "switched to short barker preamble (BSSID=00:1c...) \n wlan0 (WE) : wireless event too big (320) |
| 19:34.58 | jberg- | what does that mean? |
| 19:35.28 | syslq | ls |
| 19:35.30 | syslq | sorry |
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| 19:37.38 | Schiz0|SD | What's the difference between 'buffer' and 'cached' in the output of `free` ? |
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| 19:42.23 | jberg- | can i use ath9k with debian lennys current kernel? |
| 19:42.40 | abrotman | ath9k is in .27 i think |
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| 19:44.00 | c_newbie | hi there, is there anything i should aware to make php_cli working under debian 64bit? |
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| 19:44.17 | plb_ | How can I see my wifi signal strength from a terminal? |
| 19:44.29 | jberg- | okay. do you think ath5k is the reason i can't connect to network? (even though the wlan card authenticates and associates with the AP)? |
| 19:44.30 | c_newbie | please? i running my php_cli and seems its looping and make my cpu 100% |
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| 19:45.23 | valdyn | Schiz0|SD: a buffer is a fifo |
| 19:45.37 | abrotman | plb_: iwlist ? |
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| 19:46.14 | c_newbie | i think it is the same bug, the lib_ssl bug under debian 64bit.. anyone please? |
| 19:46.20 | Lifeform | anyone in asia or australia ? |
| 19:46.22 | valdyn | Schiz0|SD: a cache is a cache, not a fifo, i dont know how exactly linux does it, but defenitely more complicated than a fifo |
| 19:46.28 | c_newbie | Lifeform: i am |
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| 19:46.51 | plb_ | abrotman: thanks |
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| 19:49.08 | dondelelcaro | c_newbie: install php-cli; pretty simple. |
| 19:49.26 | dondelelcaro | c_newbie: if it's looping, then it's probably a bug in your php code, or perhaps something else |
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| 19:51.07 | twobitsp1ite | newsense: it works! :) |
| 19:51.08 | c_newbie | dondelelcaro: do you aware the last bug for lib_ssl under amd64bit debian that would crash the server it self? |
| 19:51.14 | twobitsp1ite | newsense: all I had to do was reboot for some reason |
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| 19:52.16 | Givvade | how is the command of radeontool to increase its power? |
| 19:52.23 | c_newbie | its not php code, its working under 32bit |
| 19:52.26 | twobitsp1ite | c_newbie: you think lib_ssl crashed your computer? |
| 19:52.42 | dondelelcaro | c_newbie: which bug? |
| 19:52.54 | twobitsp1ite | is there a better way to see what dev a usb drive is assigned than grepping dmesg? |
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| 19:54.35 | strog_ | what is the autoconf command for the xorg.conf |
| 19:54.44 | newsense | twobitsp1ite: good to hear :) |
| 19:54.48 | abrotman | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 19:55.14 | twobitsp1ite | newsense: yeah... so, there must be something the init scripts did that I wasn't doing... anyways, I really appreciate you helping me with this |
| 19:55.27 | newsense | twobitsp1ite: any time |
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| 19:57.27 | c_newbie | anyone? |
| 19:58.32 | twobitsprite | heh, forgot I was still connected from here :P |
| 19:58.42 | strog_ | abrotman:there is no intel |
| 19:58.49 | abrotman | strog_: i810 |
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| 20:00.31 | c_newbie | anyone? |
| 20:00.40 | twobitsprite | !tell c_newbie about repeat |
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| 20:00.47 | twobitsprite | !tell c_newbie about smart questions |
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| 20:02.09 | c_newbie | twobitsprite: i have a 64biti debian machine, and i was trying to run my php code under this 64bit debian machine and its not working, but it is working under 32bit |
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| 20:02.13 | jhambo___ | I'm using kwifimanager. My connection get dropped several times a day. After the connection is dropped, the only way I can get it back is to restart the computer. recommendations? |
| 20:02.19 | c_newbie | please check this issue: http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=40735 |
| 20:02.19 | mker | How can I make a list of all folders and files (content) in another folder in an FTP server? |
| 20:03.02 | mker | I tried gFTP "save directory listing" but it gives me a lot of extra info that I don't want/need. |
| 20:04.03 | c_newbie | is there anyway to make debian64 working with stream_select ? |
| 20:04.38 | twobitsprite | c_newbie: looks like its a php bug... you might have to wait for them to fix it in php |
| 20:05.07 | c_newbie | twobitsprite: i have report this since 2005 |
| 20:05.15 | c_newbie | they said, its the OS itself |
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| 20:05.45 | c_newbie | it was fixed under debian r401 |
| 20:06.10 | c_newbie | not anymore on >r402 |
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| 20:07.00 | twobitsprite | c_newbie: so file a bug with the php package maintainer |
| 20:07.12 | twobitsprite | is there a bot command to find that out? :) |
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| 20:09.27 | twobitsprite | strange... I just mounted my usb drive (ntfs) and its set to 500, root/root and I can't change it |
| 20:09.40 | twobitsprite | I have "user" in the fstab |
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| 20:10.46 | \amethyst | twobitsprite: you also need uid= and/or umask= |
| 20:10.55 | twobitsprite | \amethyst: ahh, of course! :) thanks |
| 20:11.02 | \amethyst | twobitsprite: if you want to be able to write, you need ntfs-3g |
| 20:11.13 | twobitsprite | ntfsprogs 2.0 won't do it? |
| 20:11.32 | \amethyst | the kernel driver won't do it |
| 20:11.39 | twobitsprite | ok |
| 20:11.51 | \amethyst | oh |
| 20:12.20 | \amethyst | ntfsmount from ntfsprogs might be able to, never used it |
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| 20:20.46 | Lifeform | anyone in asia or australia ? |
| 20:21.22 | dvs | Lifeform: probably sleeping now |
| 20:22.17 | abrotman | Lifeform: and if we were ? |
| 20:22.35 | dvs | abrotman: he's say "Oi!" ;-) |
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| 20:24.15 | Lifeform | aiiight :> |
| 20:24.16 | abrotman | heh |
| 20:24.24 | Lifeform | needs to get this file properly tested ===> http://72.3.253.20/100mb.bin |
| 20:24.30 | Lifeform | the transfer rate of it. |
| 20:24.37 | abrotman | what? again? |
| 20:24.45 | abrotman | Lifeform: try #defocus |
| 20:24.45 | Lifeform | i THINK we´ve found the optimal placement for it now... seems to run smoothly all around the world |
| 20:24.47 | Lifeform | yapp yapp |
| 20:24.55 | Lifeform | have to do it properly |
| 20:25.16 | cloakable | Lifeform: wget reports only 83m P |
| 20:25.16 | MJS | Lifeform, I got ~350 kB/s |
| 20:25.35 | abrotman | Lifeform: ask #defocus |
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| 20:25.46 | dvs | not "de man"? |
| 20:25.52 | Lifeform | what´s defocus ? |
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| 20:26.05 | Lifeform | brilliant MJS. where u located ? |
| 20:26.06 | abrotman | it's a channel |
| 20:26.17 | MJS | Germany |
| 20:26.21 | abrotman | Lifeform: your problem has nothing to do with Debian .. go somewhere else |
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| 20:27.03 | MJS | (350 is the maximum I can get with my connection) |
| 20:27.03 | Lifeform | excellent. tnx :) |
| 20:27.08 | Lifeform | ok brilliant MJS |
| 20:27.12 | Lifeform | :) |
| 20:27.19 | Lifeform | debian = server OS ? |
| 20:27.23 | abrotman | Lifeform: go away |
| 20:27.32 | Lifeform | angry man :-p |
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| 20:27.44 | abrotman | you're offtopic .. go to #defocus if you want general chatter |
| 20:27.50 | dvs | Lifeform: That's it's reputation but reps aren't always right. |
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| 20:27.54 | MJS | debian is also a good Desktop OS |
| 20:28.01 | MJS | ;) |
| 20:28.06 | jhambo___ | I'm using kwifimanager. My connection get dropped several times a day. After the connection is dropped, the only way I can get it back is to restart the computer. recommendations? |
| 20:28.06 | Lifeform | ok |
| 20:28.17 | abrotman | jhambo___: using which driver? |
| 20:28.31 | dvs | Lifeform: but it rep is a testimony to its stability |
| 20:28.33 | Lifeform | Ubuntu is a much ligher version of Debian and Red ? |
| 20:28.42 | abrotman | Lifeform: go ask #ubuntu |
| 20:28.55 | Lifeform | aiiight... we´ve had Debian before. Has a very good rumour. |
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| 20:29.23 | MJS | ubuntu isn't lighter... it's based on Debian |
| 20:29.37 | Lifeform | abrotman: Woke up on the wrong side of the bed today ? hehe I don´t need more verifications now. And I GET your point. Don´t have to be a dirtbag |
| 20:29.51 | abrotman | this channel isn't for chatter .. it's for Debian support |
| 20:29.52 | dvs | Lifeform: not a good thing to say to an op |
| 20:29.57 | Lifeform | MJS: Ok... so Debian basicly has the same type of interface ? |
| 20:30.40 | dvs | Lifeform: other way around: it has a similar infrastructure but different packages. |
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| 20:31.23 | jhambo___ | abrotman: madwifi |
| 20:31.28 | jhambo___ | "Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)" |
| 20:31.43 | abrotman | jhambo___: etch? lenny? |
| 20:31.48 | jhambo___ | abrotman: lenny |
| 20:32.09 | mker | Lifeform, Ubuntu is Debian with a little more "polish" to make it more user friendly. Debian feels more "clean" (that's my opinion, and i use Ubuntu right now but I'm thinking about switching back to Debian) |
| 20:32.11 | jhambo___ | madwifi "Version: 1:0.9.4+r3685.20080531+dfsg-1" |
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| 20:33.43 | abrotman | jhambo___: there is a #madwifi |
| 20:34.17 | abrotman | jhambo___: do you get errors in dmesg when it happens ? |
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| 20:35.14 | jhambo___ | abrotman: hmmm not completely sure. I'll check next time it happens... |
| 20:35.52 | abrotman | jhambo___: probably good to make notes of what it says .. or go look in syslog or messages to see if there are still messages from the last time it happened |
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| 20:36.26 | Agiofws | does anyone have a dreambox ? pls message me |
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| 20:36.53 | jhambo___ | abrotman: okay I'll do that. Is it correct that the madwifi-source from lenny and sid are the same? |
| 20:36.59 | Error4o4 | when i telnet to the SSH server it tells me the ssh version and debian version. any idea how to change this, that is not the data from /etc/issue.net.. when connecting with a ssh client it doesnt get print |
| 20:37.04 | abrotman | judd: versions madwifi-source |
| 20:37.06 | judd | abrotman: madwifi-source -- etch/non-free: 1:0.9.2+r1842.20061207-2etch2 lenny/non-free: 1:0.9.4+r3772.20080716-1 sid/non-free: 1:0.9.4+r3772.20080716-1 |
| 20:37.14 | abrotman | jhambo___: would seem that way |
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| 20:48.44 | c_newbie | hi, i just download the php5 source, how to edit the config file so i can get a proper dpkgbuild ? |
| 20:48.49 | c_newbie | which file is it |
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| 20:49.43 | \amethyst | c_newbie: you might try apt-get source php5 then use the debian/ directory from that |
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| 20:51.17 | abrotman | edit what why? |
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| 21:07.46 | xokaido | people, please, I bag you, help me with crashed system... :-( |
| 21:07.54 | xokaido | boss will kill me tomorrow... |
| 21:08.17 | simonrvn | you bag me? wot? |
| 21:08.23 | simonrvn | !tell xokaido -about ask |
| 21:08.30 | simonrvn | !tell xokaido -about smart questions |
| 21:08.47 | exprim | !tell exprim -about ask |
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| 21:09.02 | xokaido | I have removed lots of packages from my debian etch... |
| 21:09.28 | xokaido | I had ssh access in past 10 minutes but I have lost it... |
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| 21:09.54 | xokaido | because I tried to copy from old Debian machine the whole /lib directory..... |
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| 21:10.19 | xokaido | I have no physical access to machine, have no shall except webmin... :-( |
| 21:10.30 | xokaido | no shell... |
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| 21:11.01 | abrotman | you did what? |
| 21:11.07 | Octalot | you copied old_machine:/lib to new_machine:/lib ? |
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| 21:11.11 | Bullen | yo |
| 21:11.18 | \amethyst | ouch |
| 21:11.33 | Bullen | I have a quick question, I want to set up a mail server on my Debian VPS, what is an easy and common mail server to use? |
| 21:11.39 | \amethyst | !aptitude clone |
| 21:11.39 | abrotman | postfix or exim |
| 21:11.39 | dpkg | To clone a Debian machine using aptitude (or install your favorite packages) use aptitude search -F '%100p' '~i!~M' > package_list; on the reference machine; xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < package_list; aptitude install; on the other machine. See also <reinstall>. |
| 21:12.24 | Bullen | ok, what's the difference between postfix & exim? |
| 21:12.44 | abrotman | they're different MTAs |
| 21:12.47 | Kyashan | "the" difference ? |
| 21:13.02 | Bullen | i seriously don't know shit about mail servers :) |
| 21:13.16 | Bullen | i just got to set one up, but it can't be that hard, now can it? =) |
| 21:13.23 | jpinx | Bullen: one difference is that I can work postfix but exim is a blackbox to me |
| 21:13.25 | \amethyst | Bullen: http://shearer.org/MTA_Comparison |
| 21:13.27 | abrotman | so pick exim or postfix and use one |
| 21:13.36 | Bullen | ok |
| 21:14.00 | Bullen | thanks for the info |
| 21:14.02 | codingrobot | Bullen: http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-etch/ |
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| 21:14.12 | Bullen | any other quick pointers/noob mistakes when setting up a webserver? |
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| 21:16.04 | jpinx | sheeesh Bullen -- that'd be a long list - and I've made most of them:-/ |
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| 21:16.43 | Bullen | well, all i want is a mailserver that can handle a few different domains, set up some mail accounts & perhaps catchall etc, can't be that hard |
| 21:17.23 | jpinx | prime mistake is probably not reading the manuals;) |
| 21:17.34 | codingrobot | its mostly trial and fail (and sometimes checking the docs.) :) |
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| 21:17.41 | Liviu` | check it now wWw.E-ChaT.Tk or type /server irc.sidenet.org -j #ChaT if you feel like chating :) |
| 21:18.16 | Bullen | ok :p |
| 21:18.23 | Bullen | the problem with reading manuals is it takes time |
| 21:18.24 | Bullen | ! |
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| 21:20.14 | mats | since yesterday i have a new portable mediaplayer, which plays as video formats only avi xvid ... i tried a lot to convert youtube videos: ffmpeg -i <input> -vcodec libxvid -aspect 4:3 <output>; ... has anybody an idea why may player says always "error malformed" ... with vlc i can watch my converted videos ... |
| 21:20.54 | johndoe | whats the easiest (and fastest) way to burn mp3's to audio cd? |
| 21:21.15 | mats | johndoe, k3b! |
| 21:21.33 | johndoe | mats: can it automatically change mp3 to wav on the fly? |
| 21:21.44 | pipcookie_ | also sees an "mp3burn" command |
| 21:21.51 | mats | maybe there is something for the terminal |
| 21:21.53 | largess | Google is not my friend today. I am on Lenny. I want to open a port. I don't believe I'm using iptables as iptables -L give me empty result sets. nmap show the port open on localhost but not from another machine on the LAN. ? |
| 21:22.14 | cammoblammo | johndoe: Yes, it can |
| 21:22.28 | johndoe | thanks guys |
| 21:23.45 | xota | I'm using my webcam with skype, and after 1 minute it freezes. I can use it with cheese withou problem. anyone know how what may be happening? |
| 21:23.57 | Bullen | mats, converting flv = pain in the ass |
| 21:25.01 | mats | Bullen, what would you propose? |
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| 21:26.07 | Bullen | i tried working with flv before, only program i found that could import it was kino |
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| 21:26.12 | hell-blues | hey |
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| 21:26.16 | hell-blues | my file is missing |
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| 21:26.25 | hell-blues | i move some file to another location |
| 21:26.35 | hell-blues | and it is los |
| 21:26.35 | hell-blues | t |
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| 21:26.45 | Bullen | but that's for video editing, and then that only outputs DV files properly, and that you can convert to avi or similar using ffmpeg |
| 21:26.56 | Bullen | but that's a sort of long way around it |
| 21:27.14 | mats | bullen, can kino save films as avi (xvid) ? |
| 21:27.20 | Bullen | probably there's a better way if you can compile ffmpeg properly with the right codecs and everything |
| 21:27.23 | Bullen | no |
| 21:27.25 | sladi | johndoe: I'm not sure about K3B but Brasero converts the tags to CD-texxt too. |
| 21:27.30 | Bullen | kino can only write to dv i think |
| 21:27.33 | hell-blues | system lose my files |
| 21:27.49 | hell-blues | debian lost my files |
| 21:28.11 | johndoe | sladi: thats nice |
| 21:28.36 | hell-blues | and there are no files about program but program works |
| 21:28.40 | \amethyst | hell-blues: what was the command you used to move the files? |
| 21:28.41 | hell-blues | how is it possible |
| 21:28.46 | hell-blues | mv |
| 21:28.55 | \amethyst | the entire command line |
| 21:29.16 | abrotman | !tr |
| 21:29.16 | dpkg | somebody said tr was türkçe yardIm için #debian.tr (irc.freenode.net): -- if you need help in turkish, please join #debian.tr on irc.freenode.net, or http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~rakewell/z88/keyboards/turkish.jpg |
| 21:29.19 | hell-blues | mv /home/hellues/folder-2/ /root |
| 21:29.35 | \amethyst | hell-blues: were you root when you did that? |
| 21:29.49 | hell-blues | yes of course |
| 21:29.57 | \amethyst | hell-blues: what does ls -ld /root/folder-2 say? |
| 21:30.41 | hell-blues | actually files missing inside folder-2 |
| 21:30.47 | hell-blues | somefiles stys |
| 21:30.49 | hell-blues | i see |
| 21:30.58 | hell-blues | but my working file and its folder missing |
| 21:31.08 | mats | johndoe, maybe this german site helps you http://www.pro-linux.de/t_programme/cdbrenn_front.html (you may can ask for some translations) Xmp3Burn seems quiet nice ... |
| 21:31.27 | \amethyst | is /root on the same filesystem as /home ? |
| 21:31.37 | johndoe | mats: thanks for all the help, k3b seems to be doing a really good job =) |
| 21:33.06 | hell-blues | no /root and /home is in seperate partition |
| 21:33.22 | \amethyst | hell-blues: did anything get left behind in /home/hellues/folder-2 ? |
| 21:33.28 | jhambo | Hmmmmm so is there a recommended way to get compat-wireless in lenny? wireless.kernel.org doesn't seem to have the "old" version for kernels <= 2.2.26 anymore... :( |
| 21:33.41 | mats | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:34.54 | Bullen | actually, i misread your question :) |
| 21:35.02 | Bullen | now i read it, but i still don't know |
| 21:35.07 | hell-blues | \amethyst, |
| 21:35.07 | Bullen | thought you had problems converting FLV |
| 21:35.09 | hell-blues | no just |
| 21:35.15 | hell-blues | i type command above |
| 21:35.20 | hell-blues | mv .... .... |
| 21:35.25 | hell-blues | and my files is missing |
| 21:35.43 | Bullen | i haven't the faintest idea what the dataformat actually looks like, but probably you have some problems with metainformation in the file? does vlc give you any warning? |
| 21:36.02 | \amethyst | hell-blues: did mv give any error messages? |
| 21:36.04 | mats | no! it plays it |
| 21:36.36 | hell-blues | no |
| 21:36.46 | hell-blues | i cannot give just my file missed |
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| 21:38.42 | \amethyst | hell-blues: then I have no idea what's going on. it might be a good idea to shutdown -rF now to check the filesystem for errors |
| 21:39.07 | mats | the properities of my converted file is video codec: XVID MPEG-4 audio codec: MPEG 2 Audio, Layer 2 |
| 21:39.14 | mats | maybe thats wrong? |
| 21:39.26 | mats | have you got an idea? |
| 21:39.38 | hell-blues | anyway |
| 21:39.52 | deus___ | bye.. :s |
| 21:39.54 | hell-blues | are there any data recovery program |
| 21:39.57 | hell-blues | \amethyst, |
| 21:40.47 | twobitsprite | hell-blues: I would do what he said already... shutdown -rF |
| 21:41.29 | \amethyst | hell-blues: well, fsck might be able to find them (if it does it will put them in /lost+found, possibly with funny filenames) |
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| 21:41.49 | hell-blues | okey |
| 21:41.50 | Miscc | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:41.51 | hell-blues | i check |
| 21:41.57 | hell-blues | but i have another question |
| 21:42.02 | hell-blues | /usr/local/bin/mysql-workbench-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libsqlide.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 21:42.08 | hell-blues | how can i handle with this |
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| 21:42.24 | \amethyst | hell-blues: otherwise, depending on the file format, photorec from the package 'testdisk' might be able to do something |
| 21:43.01 | \amethyst | hell-blues: read the documentation for the mysql-workbench thing that you installed |
| 21:43.16 | abrotman | hell-blues: that file isn't in lenny .. ask the people that gave you the software |
| 21:43.19 | \amethyst | hell-blues: that library isn't available in debian that I can find |
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| 21:44.52 | \amethyst | hell-blues: presumably you'll have to download and maybe compile it? |
| 21:44.52 | mats | is here any specialist, how knows something about the mental conditions from media players which only want to play avi xvid ... i heard ffmpeg wants the divorce... |
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| 21:46.26 | twobitsprite | mats: ? |
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| 21:47.06 | Gabbsmo | What iso should I use with a Pentium 3 processor? |
| 21:47.58 | mats | twobitsprite ? |
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| 21:47.59 | stew | Gabbsmo: i386 |
| 21:47.59 | beardy | i386, or i486 if it's called that. |
| 21:48.09 | the_plumber | im trying to get woody by way of jigdo, its not working very well..... lots of "not found" errors, seems most of the files in the us.debian/debian jigdo snapshot area are newer than what was specified in the jigdo file |
| 21:48.24 | abrotman | the_plumber: why? |
| 21:48.25 | beardy | the_plumber: Why? |
| 21:48.37 | the_plumber | why woody? |
| 21:48.42 | beardy | Yes. |
| 21:48.54 | jpinx | the_plumber: why such an old version? |
| 21:48.56 | the_plumber | just to have the older archives, for embedded junk etc. |
| 21:49.00 | Guerin | acceptable answers: (null) |
| 21:49.09 | Octalot | wonders why there is still a jigdo file for Woody |
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| 21:49.15 | abrotman | the_plumber: it's completely unsupported and hasn't been for about three years IIRC |
| 21:49.20 | beardy | No.. there are acceptable ones. That's not it though. |
| 21:49.28 | abrotman | !cd archive |
| 21:49.28 | dpkg | A repository of older(unsupported) CD images can be found at http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/ |
| 21:49.36 | the_plumber | ty |
| 21:49.44 | the_plumber | think i tried that |
| 21:49.54 | abrotman | and what? |
| 21:50.06 | the_plumber | i'll check it again |
| 21:50.08 | Octalot | or try jigdo from archive.debian.org instead of the normal server |
| 21:50.09 | jpinx | the_plumber: there's nothing in woody that you can't find with the current stable |
| 21:50.12 | abrotman | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/images/3.0_r6/i386/debian-30r6-i386-binary-1.iso |
| 21:50.36 | beardy | jpinx: Oh yes there is. |
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| 21:51.30 | twobitsprite | beardy: such as? |
| 21:51.32 | mats | i tried know to convert with ffmpeg flv into mp3 ... and it worked! ...even my mediaplayer plays it ... but did no one now how to solve my problem with flv in avi? |
| 21:51.35 | jpinx | beardy: that surprises me |
| 21:52.04 | beardy | twobitsprite: Quite a lot. |
| 21:52.16 | beardy | jpinx: Ok. |
| 21:52.20 | jpinx | beardy: does that meant there's stuff in my sarge partition that I can't access fro Lenny? |
| 21:52.31 | jpinx | *from |
| 21:52.46 | beardy | jpinx: No, why wouldn't you be able to read it from whatever other system. |
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| 21:53.17 | abrotman | jpinx: applications in woody have been cut from sarge/etch/lenny |
| 21:53.21 | the_plumber | archive.debian.org seemed to do the trick! ty |
| 21:53.22 | beardy | jpinx: But if you meant to ask if there are packages available in sarge, that are not still in lenny, yes. |
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| 21:54.43 | Error4o4 | when telneting to SSH it shows the ssh and os version, but its not the content from /etc/issue.net Any idea how to hide that ? |
| 21:55.03 | jpinx | beardy: I know there are packages in older versions which are no longer available, but I have a sarge partition and I presume I can access all of it from Lenny? |
| 21:55.22 | twobitsprite | Error4o4: what file is it reading it from? |
| 21:55.33 | mats | ??? |
| 21:55.33 | Error4o4 | twobitsprite: dont know |
| 21:55.35 | beardy | jpinx: Yes, of course, why wouldn't you? That's something completely different. |
| 21:55.38 | the_plumber | now i can play the older version of moonbuggy :-) |
| 21:55.55 | twobitsprite | Error4o4: grep around and see if you can find it |
| 21:55.55 | twobitsprite | mats: I don't think anyone understands your question |
| 21:55.56 | jpinx | so why would someone want woody if they can see everything on a filesystem using current stable? |
| 21:56.16 | beardy | jpinx: If you don't get that, you don't. |
| 21:56.34 | jpinx | moonbuggy :-/ |
| 21:56.37 | twobitsprite | jpinx: well... if they don't have a woody filesystem, how are they going to access it from current stable? |
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| 21:56.52 | beardy | Another one.. |
| 21:57.59 | c_newbie | hm |
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| 21:58.25 | hoopy | is there a way to install debian on a headless machine? |
| 21:58.32 | c_newbie | i have changed the Makefile file and replace cflags -O2 with -O1 |
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| 21:59.14 | twobitsprite | hoopy: I bet there is :) |
| 21:59.19 | mats | i want to convert videos from .flv (i got them from youtube) to .avi (i want to play them on my portable mediaplayer). ffmpeg does something (ffmpeg -i input.FLV -vcodec libxvid -aspect 1:1 output.avi). ffmpeg doesn't return any error. But my portable mediaplayer doesn't read the file ... |
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| 21:59.27 | c_newbie | but when i do dpkg-buildpackge, it still showing -O2 |
| 21:59.30 | c_newbie | wierid |
| 22:00.01 | bill | newbie question. with dpkg --list '*foo*' i get a result.. but cant figure that the rc. un. ii are etc in first col. Can anyone help.. |
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| 22:00.12 | twobitsprite | c_newbie: did you check the rules file? |
| 22:00.14 | beardy | mats: AVI is just a container. Put in it what your player supports. |
| 22:00.26 | mats | @twobitsprite, sorry my english is very bad. which part of this is unintelligible? |
| 22:00.32 | beardy | mats: Which apparently isn't xvid. |
| 22:00.44 | twobitsprite | mats: that time was much better... but I don't know the answer |
| 22:00.53 | jpinx | hoopy: of course - see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apa.html.en |
| 22:01.25 | FILLVAIO2 | Hi folk. I have a error in suexec: command not in docroot. I'm care about system core, and i'm scare to compile by hand. Can anybody help me? |
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| 22:02.28 | FILLVAIO2 | In google i find that recompile suexec with special option can solv my problems |
| 22:02.50 | twobitsprite | FILLVAIO2: sounds like you want #apache |
| 22:03.13 | mats | beardy, i know that avi is only the container. in the manual of my mediaplayer i found the lines ..."technical specifications: video format: avi (XviD)", so why shouldn't it be xvid? |
| 22:03.22 | FILLVAIO2 | ya? i will try it there now. thanx |
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| 22:05.11 | beardy | mats: Fiddle with ffmpeg, have it use another mode of xvid if possible. If it says that, it should be yes. But afaik it can be in many shapes, many different versions.. If they aren't more specific, you just have to try and try. |
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| 22:05.43 | beardy | mats: Also see what mencoder gives you. |
| 22:06.11 | noctua1 | Hi there! My notebook freezes (Thinkpad X200) when resuming from standby because of the intel-driver for xorg (video-i810). With vesa-drivers it works but no accel, which would be fine. Any suggestion? |
| 22:06.35 | beardy | noctua1: Use vesa-drivers. |
| 22:07.13 | simonrvn | FILLVAIO2: you could also put it the wanted docroot, somewhere under /var/www* |
| 22:07.23 | noctua1 | :) Thanks. Is this a known bug? Well, performance with vesa isn't really great. |
| 22:07.35 | abrotman | thinkwiki.org |
| 22:07.37 | simonrvn | not meant to be either |
| 22:08.21 | zo_orki | how do i get my integrated microphone to work under debian? |
| 22:08.32 | mats | beardy, i'm downloading mencoder at this moment ... but what ideas do you have to try ... the only i had was to use libxvid for xvid |
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| 22:08.41 | beardy | noctua1: Check the bugtracker. If not, maybe you should make a good report. |
| 22:09.07 | FILLVAIO2 | <simonrvn> any other way? recompile? |
| 22:09.33 | beardy | mats: Just what I told you, read, fiddle and try. Haven't got a mediaplayer.. so, haven't had to myself. |
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| 22:10.35 | beardy | mats: libxvid surely has options? |
| 22:11.23 | simonrvn | FILLVAIO2: that's one way, but i'd suggest sticking with the defaults, and the debian packages (there's an apache2-suexec-custom package or such, but only in lenny/sid IIRC; check backports though) |
| 22:11.27 | noctua1 | beardy: I'll check that, thought it would be known perhaps. But I guess that's the price for brand-new hardware |
| 22:11.57 | beardy | noctua1: Sometimes. |
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| 22:12.55 | rebecka | I've been using amarok for all my music collection indexing needs and I recently tried Miro wich had a similar function for indexing Video but it did in no way come close to what amarok can do with a music collection; my question is: is there any video indexing software (prefferably in debian) that even comes close? |
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| 22:13.59 | FILLVAIO2 | <simonrvn> i find this -> http://blog.chty.org/post/2008/08/12/Changing-suexec-root-directory but [apt-get source apache2] can't find source |
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| 22:14.42 | jhambo | rebecka: pornview? |
| 22:14.45 | Eulex | FILLVAIO2, do you have a deb-src line in /etc/apt/sources.list for the version of debian you're running |
| 22:15.00 | russian_ulysses_ | hi, all :) how can I configure gnome/gdm to prefer xscreensaver over gnome-screensaver? |
| 22:15.06 | russian_ulysses_ | in lenny |
| 22:15.17 | FILLVAIO2 | <Eulex> only dotdeb.org |
| 22:15.32 | abrotman | !dotdeb |
| 22:15.33 | dpkg | from memory, dotdeb is for the latest php and mysql releases, packaged up and backported for your pleasure, go to http://dotdeb.org/, or but realize that we cannot support dotdeb packages here, so you will be ON YOUR OWN, or there is little reason to use dotdeb.org now that backported versions of php and mysql are available from backports.org. ask me about <backports> and <backports.org> |
| 22:15.37 | Eulex | FILLVAIO2, you only have stuff from dotdeb.org in there? |
| 22:16.00 | FILLVAIO2 | yea |
| 22:16.18 | Eulex | FILLVAIO2, then please re-add the main debian sources that should be in there. |
| 22:16.30 | FILLVAIO2 | early i have install latest php5 mod that's solve many of my problems with GD library |
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| 22:17.17 | rebecka | jhambo: seems intresting; I'll 'aptitude install' it right now! |
| 22:17.35 | rebecka | jhambo: strange name though... |
| 22:17.58 | jhambo | nk |
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| 22:19.06 | Eulex | rebecka, yeah, the name is stupid |
| 22:19.40 | FILLVAIO2 | <Eulex> apt-get say that i'm need to be installed dpkg-dev |
| 22:19.43 | FILLVAIO2 | what is that? |
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| 22:21.17 | Eulex | FILLVAIO2, it is a package, that would be available if you had normal debian package sources in your sources.list. read man sources.list and add a deb and deb-src line for a debian mirror and the version of debian you're running to sources.list |
| 22:21.27 | Eulex | !tell FILLVAIO2 about mirrors |
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| 22:22.17 | FILLVAIO2 | thanx |
| 22:22.32 | FILLVAIO2 | .) nice bot |
| 22:22.57 | Eulex | FILLVAIO2, please also note that man sources.list provides a few examples of deb and deb-src lines |
| 22:23.26 | boulbul | HI, I have been trying to compress a file that is about 32gb. For the second time I try compress it rebooted itself...I am not sure if compressing is the problem or something else...please help...thanks |
| 22:24.00 | mats | beardy, i hate it! mencoder -oac mp3lame -lameopts cbr=128 -ovc xvid -xvidencopts bitrate=1200 input.FLV -o output.avi gave me the same results: my portable mediaplayer doesn't want to play the video ... |
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| 22:24.34 | rebecka | jhambo: this seems to be a pretty awesom app! it doesn't have quite what I was seeking (such as search, tagging, real indexing etc) but it's pretty nice overall. |
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| 22:25.04 | FILLVAIO2 | <Eulex> WOW! After command #apt-get build-dep apache2 i have sooooo many not installed components :))) It's really need to install? |
| 22:25.50 | jhambo | rebecka: I thought it had tagging... |
| 22:26.01 | amphi | FILLVAIO2: if you build, you'll need all the build-deps, at least |
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| 22:27.00 | FILLVAIO2 | <amphi> but if apt-get say me that some of pockets have no authinication? what to do? |
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| 22:27.39 | FILLVAIO2 | <amphi> libmysqlclient16 libmysqlclient-dev libmysqlclient15-dev |
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| 22:28.56 | FILLVAIO2 | and some of pockets apt-get want to delete? it is really need to do? [libdb4.4-dev libperl5.8 linux-kernel-headers perl-doc] |
| 22:29.09 | abrotman | maybe he should stop using dtodeb junk |
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| 22:30.00 | rebecka | jhambo: it has a 'data' tab where I can set title and such, but it doesn't do me much good when I can't search them later... |
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| 22:30.42 | rebecka | jhambo: Oh. there is a 'notes' tab to with search this would have rocked! |
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| 22:30.57 | FILLVAIO2 | !tell FILLVAIO2 about mirrors |
| 22:31.08 | twobitsprite | FILLVAIO2: you can msg the bots |
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| 22:31.30 | FILLVAIO2 | ok i will |
| 22:31.55 | twobitsprite | someone should fix the bot so that when it sees someone !telling themselves, it tells them they can /msg |
| 22:32.23 | FILLVAIO2 | .) |
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| 22:37.15 | abrotman | twobitsprite: you'd have to ask the blootbot people to add that |
| 22:37.59 | jhambo | So I want to install compat-wireless on lenny but when I follow the link in the factoid to "http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Download" I can't seem to find the version that is supposed to work with kernel 2.2.26. I guess my only option is to get a newer kernel? |
| 22:39.05 | codingrobot | you mean 2.6.26 ? |
| 22:39.20 | jhambo | codingrobot: ah yeah doh |
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| 22:40.13 | codingrobot | you can try the new 2.6.28-rc8 |
| 22:40.25 | jhambo | codingrobot: where should I get that from? |
| 22:40.37 | codingrobot | kernel.org |
| 22:40.40 | rotw | jhambo: i had precisely the same problem |
| 22:40.53 | jhambo | rotw: did you manage to get it working? |
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| 22:41.37 | rotw | jhambo: and compiling a newer kernel didn't work with me so i'm still here without wireless getting more and more p***ed off by the minute at the fact i can't be sitting at my comfortable chair in my comfortable room with my big stereo |
| 22:41.59 | c_newbie | http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=32979 <-- anyone could explain for me how to do it under debian way? |
| 22:42.09 | c_newbie | im using apt-get tho |
| 22:42.09 | codingrobot | rotw: whats your wifi card ? |
| 22:42.14 | jhambo | rotw: are you running lenny? |
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| 22:43.24 | rotw | jhambo: yup |
| 22:43.58 | rotw | codingrobot: intel "pro/wireless" 5100 agn according to the system profiler but google tells me there's no such thing |
| 22:45.15 | xsdg | rotw: does `lspci` tell you anything useful? |
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| 22:45.59 | twobitsprite | can someone recommend a good torrent downloading daemon... i.e., one that I don't have to keep a window open for? I know of mldonkey, but that's kind of buggy last I tried it |
| 22:46.07 | codingrobot | rotw: for my intel 3945 i'm using the git sources from http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/iwlwifi/iwlwifi-2.6.git;a=summary |
| 22:46.22 | codingrobot | twobitsprite: rtorrent in a screen session |
| 22:46.32 | xsdg | rotw: also, http://download.intel.com/network/connectivity/products/wireless/319981.pdf |
| 22:46.37 | rotw | xsdg: it says "PRO/Wireless 5100 AGN" there |
| 22:46.42 | twobitsprite | codingrobot: yeah... but that's kind of hacky. There has to be a daemon designed to do that |
| 22:46.59 | valdyn | twobitsprite: thats hardly "hacky" |
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| 22:47.18 | codingrobot | there is no torrent daemon afaik |
| 22:47.37 | twobitsprite | I guess not, but I was hoping for something which did that naturally |
| 22:47.43 | valdyn | twobitsprite: thats what rtorrent is very commonly used for, and people obviously dont care to make it daemonised |
| 22:47.56 | valdyn | twobitsprite: ( which is a trivial few line patch ) |
| 22:48.29 | rotw | xsdg: yeah, it says wifi link there... weird |
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| 22:49.08 | codingrobot | rotw: the 5100 series are since august supported, officially from intel |
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| 22:49.30 | newsense | http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&Inst=Yes&ProductID=2963&DwnldID=17045&strOSs=39&OSFullName=Linux |
| 22:49.39 | rotw | also, what might just interest you, the error message was something like iwlagn: Unknown symbol iwl5000_agn_cfg |
| 22:49.52 | rotw | codingrobot: ok, so how do i get it to work? |
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| 22:50.06 | newsense | rotw: that link was for you |
| 22:50.07 | codingrobot | get the latest code base, compile and test ;) |
| 22:50.58 | rotw | newsense: been there like a dozen times |
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| 22:51.08 | newsense | heh |
| 22:51.24 | codingrobot | rotw: get the code from the git repo. |
| 22:51.42 | codingrobot | this is the official intel repo. |
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| 22:51.46 | rotw | newsense: then i get to intellinuxwireless.org, then i get that file containing that .ucode-thingy, then i get the compat-wireless thing, i cp and make and modprobe and i get the error. |
| 22:51.56 | rotw | codingrobot: ok, haven't tried that |
| 22:53.02 | jhambo | In principle, does installing a kernel that is newer than the one offered with debian cause problems? |
| 22:53.14 | valdyn | jhambo: no |
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| 22:53.30 | jhambo | score |
| 22:53.45 | CharminTheMoose | what file do I need to edit to make my xterms have a black background with green text? |
| 22:53.48 | codingrobot | no, you can always change the kernels from the bootloader |
| 22:54.56 | valdyn | !xdefaults |
| 22:54.56 | dpkg | i guess xdefaults is xrdb -merge ~/.Xdefaults, or call it ~/.Xresources to have gdm merge it automatically |
| 22:55.05 | valdyn | CharminTheMoose: ^^ |
| 22:56.07 | codingrobot | rotw: for compat-wireless you need to define CONFIG_IWL5000=m in config.mk |
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| 22:56.49 | rotw | codingrobot: hm. k. i'll try that again |
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| 23:09.51 | twobitsprite | yum, netsplit |
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| 23:15.44 | hoopy | how would i go about getting a debian machine to always request the same address from a router? |
| 23:15.59 | hoopy | like 192.168.1.236 |
| 23:16.28 | codingrobot | you have to do this on your router |
| 23:16.38 | hoopy | no, you don't |
| 23:17.24 | abrotman | why not just make it a static IP ? |
| 23:17.48 | hoopy | that's probably what i mean |
| 23:18.34 | codingrobot | "request the same address from a router" doesn't sound like setting a static ip |
| 23:18.50 | hoopy | codingrobot: you're a lot of help, thanks |
| 23:19.26 | valdyn | hoopy: good |
| 23:19.32 | valdyn | hoopy: oopd |
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| 23:20.56 | noppe | how can i recover data from a cd that apparently hasn't been finalized and now can't be mounted ? dmesg output is "this disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize". dd if=/dev/hdb cd.iso eof's after 2k, same with dd_rescue. |
| 23:21.39 | noppe | i could use wine+isobuster, and extract the data, but i'd rather not. |
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| 23:22.40 | rotw | iwlagn: Unknown symbol iwl5100_abg_cfg <- yup, that's the error... |
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| 23:25.37 | jhambo | So I'm compiling a kernel for the first time following /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz with linux-2.6.27.8. When I do `make menuconfig` I get roughly 80 billion settings to configure. Are the defaults usually correct for all those setting...? |
| 23:26.01 | valdyn | jhambo: no |
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| 23:26.54 | jhambo | valdyn: yikes! so most of those settings are incomprehensible to me. what should I do? |
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| 23:27.14 | valdyn | jhambo: not compile a kernel |
| 23:27.44 | newsense | make oldconfig to strt with |
| 23:28.20 | syslq_ | If I use lighweight window manager what is good practice to use gnome apps or kde or mixed?? |
| 23:28.38 | valdyn | syslq_: whatever you want |
| 23:28.47 | valdyn | syslq_: but why bother using a "lightweight" wm |
| 23:28.52 | jhambo | valdyn: seriously...? I can't imgine that people who are compiling kernels understand all those options.. |
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| 23:28.57 | valdyn | syslq_: its not like kde or gnome wm are heavy at all |
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| 23:29.12 | syslq_ | valdyn: I use gnome but I'm fooling around with virtualbox |
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| 23:29.18 | syslq_ | just wanted to know |
| 23:29.29 | valdyn | jhambo: no, many people dont, with the result that they make shitty kernels or kernels that try to match default distro kernels |
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| 23:29.55 | valdyn | jhambo: but theres plenty people who understand 99% of the options |
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| 23:33.15 | jhambo | valdyn: so i need a new kernel because compat-wireless doesn't seem to be available for <= 2.6.26... I can see lots of stuff that I do understand in menuconfig but for example, I have no idea what "Export DMI identification via sysfs to userspace" means.... |
| 23:33.40 | valdyn | jhambo: lenny has a 2.6.26 kernel, use that one |
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| 23:33.49 | valdyn | jhambo: err |
| 23:33.51 | jhambo | <= |
| 23:34.00 | valdyn | jhambo: sid might have 2.6.27, did you check? |
| 23:34.12 | ameyer | sid still has 2.6.26, I believe |
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| 23:35.11 | FILLVAIO2 | guys! what to do if i have error: > Build-dependencies for apache2 could not be satisfied ??? |
| 23:35.14 | valdyn | jhambo: get 2.6.26, copy its config into the kernel source tree, name changed to .config, run "make oldconfig" |
| 23:35.47 | valdyn | jhambo: and use make-kpkg to compile later after you adjusted config and dont forget --initrd |
| 23:35.48 | FILLVAIO2 | when i try to recompile apache2 |
| 23:35.53 | jhambo | valdyn: looks to me like sid also has 2.6.26 |
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| 23:38.22 | ohsnap | anyone here familiar with xebian stuff? |
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| 23:39.37 | newsense | nah i like ps3 better :P |
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| 23:41.05 | FILLVAIO2 | guys! what to do if i have error: > Build-dependencies for apache2 could not be satisfied ??? |
| 23:41.15 | hoopy | okay so i'd like to move to move to debian unstable and i'm not able to google fu a good way to do that |
| 23:42.44 | jhambo | valdyn: is "/boot/config-2.6.26-1-686" by current config? |
| 23:43.14 | valdyn | jhambo: yes |
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| 23:43.15 | valdyn | jhambo: actually, i cant tell if current, but its ok for this purpose anyway |
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| 23:49.26 | jhambo | valdyn: so I copy that file into the source directory, rename it to .config, and then if I do for example `make menuconfig` will it use the old config? |
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| 23:52.13 | syslq_ | valdyn: Yeah, I see how it's pointless :) |
| 23:52.34 | syslq_ | valdyn: no really nice config tools you'd expect with a desktop system |
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