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| 00:03.41 | Flashtek | oops.. |
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| 00:07.12 | Samb1 | ok so I think the thing is that the backports flashplugin-nonfree tries to install flash player 9 ... but adobe isn't serving it anymore, only player 10 |
| 00:07.49 | Samb1 | not sure if player 10 is working well with debian tho, I don't know why I wouldn't... but thats the plugin I've been copying to my plugins folder |
| 00:07.50 | Samb1 | s |
| 00:08.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | btw. is there some small program - either for fvwm2 or WM-independent - that allows you to search through all your windows-titles opens/focuses the result? |
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| 00:08.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | I must have around 90 open windows right now... finding one can be such a pain :) |
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| 00:12.56 | enouf | DeathWolf: another option is taskset and the schedutils pkg (etch), for limiting/binding apps to one core only - also look at numa=fake boot options, however - these are less on target for what you had in mind, IIUC .. but maybe your apps just suck ass too ;-) |
| 00:13.27 | Metatron | arent there some opensource alternatives to java and flash? |
| 00:13.31 | enouf | (or your hardware does ;-)) |
| 00:13.52 | abrotman | yes |
| 00:14.44 | enouf | CutMeOwnThroat: wmctrl? |
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| 00:15.28 | jpinx | Metatron: gnash to look at flash is one |
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| 00:15.56 | enouf | CutMeOwnThroat: that's why i have my panel/taskbar off vertically to the right hand side (so i can see the 1st part of text in title bar) ;-) - other people make use of multiple Desktops Envs |
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| 00:16.25 | enouf | CutMeOwnThroat: where you group things .. yaddayaddayadda |
| 00:16.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | enouf, I have a lot of them spread out on the 21 screens of desktop 0 :) |
| 00:16.51 | jpinx | CutMeOwnThroat: I have a desktop for browseing, another for media, another for documents, etc |
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| 00:17.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | I just fill them up :) |
| 00:17.46 | jpinx | CutMeOwnThroat: try some self-discipline and close windows you aren't using ;) |
| 00:18.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | what do you mean "aren't using"? |
| 00:18.28 | jpinx | CutMeOwnThroat: how many tabs do you have open in your browser then? |
| 00:18.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | it's all cool stuff I'll some day have the time to come back to |
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| 00:19.20 | enouf | CutMeOwnThroat: i can fit ~ 50 minimized windows on each desktop comfortably ;-) |
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| 00:19.35 | rate | what is the best way to sync 2 files? i have 2 calender files i want to keep in sync |
| 00:19.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | jpinx, normally not more than the 10 or so that still fit into the bar... more than that and you have to scroll within the tabs |
| 00:19.38 | rate | and i will be making changes on both calendars without syncing for long periods |
| 00:19.41 | rate | and other times daily |
| 00:19.44 | Metatron | anyone know about video4linux? synaptic shows libpt-plugins-v4l2 unistalled but lsmod shows v4l2_common 20448 1 videodev....i dont want v4l2 loaded as im trying to use genericv4l for an older tv card using mach64...how can i get rid of v4l2 |
| 00:19.51 | rafuch0 | how do i know the version of onpengl that i am using...? |
| 00:20.07 | enouf | glxinfo? |
| 00:20.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | rate, something like cvs? |
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| 00:20.28 | jpinx | rate - rsync |
| 00:20.41 | rafuch0 | glxinfo nop |
| 00:20.48 | rate | yes like cvs but hmm |
| 00:20.54 | enouf | xvinfo? |
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| 00:21.23 | enouf | heh .. dang .. well mesa provides the openGL functionality unless you're using DRI/DRM? |
| 00:21.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | jpinx, he'll make changes to *both* ... which of course doesn't work - only cvs&co can somewhat deal with the conflict |
| 00:21.32 | rate | rsync does not work in this case (as far as i know) because i want the contents of 2 files to be synced and since its a calendar doing it the "newest timestap" way and the "biggest file gets synced" way does not work |
| 00:21.35 | jpinx | CutMeOwnThroat: get a biger screen ;) |
| 00:21.36 | rate | so i dont know how to do it |
| 00:21.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | jpinx, my screen *is* big :) |
| 00:21.56 | jpinx | rsync can do that - read man rsync |
| 00:22.07 | enouf | i know i've seen it though .. oh - maybe grep /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? |
| 00:22.14 | rate | jpinx: what section? |
| 00:22.18 | octoserver | if i currnetly have md0-3 registered in the mdadm.conf file. but I want to replicate the system on two other drives with 4 partitions that will be md0-3, can I rename the current md0-3 to md5-8 and change grubs menu.lst and reboot so I can make my new raid using numbers 0-3 ? If that makes and sense. |
| 00:22.32 | c_newbie | hi, where i can download debian for new disto (above etch) |
| 00:22.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | rate, I used another versioning system for my thesis... but how about you use a web calendar? |
| 00:23.14 | abrotman | !tell c_newbie about d-i |
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| 00:23.38 | rate | its not really a webcalendar its a .remind file |
| 00:23.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | rate, when all's said and done, it can't really be done - if you edit them both, there will be editing conflicts... |
| 00:23.45 | rate | for the remind application |
| 00:24.02 | jpinx | rate - you run rsync as a cron job and do both a push and a pull |
| 00:24.18 | octoserver | if no one says i cant, im going to try it :) |
| 00:24.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | rate, ah, that's nice - I might change my .birthday file to this... the birthday program is a bit... limited |
| 00:24.55 | jpinx | rate: using exceptions to avoid deleting the newest or only version of an entry |
| 00:24.55 | rate | but rsyncing will end up missing stuff no? |
| 00:25.04 | rate | like if i make changes on one file and dont sync it |
| 00:25.11 | rate | and then make changes on the other file |
| 00:25.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | yeah |
| 00:25.15 | jpinx | do it both ways and both files will have the same info |
| 00:25.16 | rate | how will the syncer know what to sync |
| 00:25.19 | Angolares | how to install swat?? |
| 00:25.22 | rate | ;) |
| 00:26.12 | jpinx | rate: I'm sure you can set the rsynce job to run everytime there's a change to either file - though I haven't done that myself |
| 00:26.23 | rate | oh |
| 00:26.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | rate, ah, darcs was it - darcs is easier to use than cvs ... |
| 00:27.00 | rate | what if the changes are simultanious? |
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| 00:27.38 | rate | like if i have one file on a usb stick and one file locally on a computer, and make changes with the usb stick on another computer then try to sync it |
| 00:27.41 | DeathWolf | enouf: well hardware wise it's not that great(only 1GB of ram, and one of the disks is USB) but the apps dont really suck they're just hashing/parsing applications for big files and hence try to get as much throughoutput as possible. |
| 00:27.42 | jpinx | rate: that will trigger an rsync job anyway - same result |
| 00:27.53 | rate | how will it know what to sync with what |
| 00:28.08 | jpinx | rate - you really do need to rtfm ;) |
| 00:28.08 | rate | how will it descide what to keep and what to notkeep |
| 00:28.13 | rate | i am afraid to loose information |
| 00:28.17 | rate | hehe ok :) ill do that |
| 00:28.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | rate, with darcs you can even mail patches from place to place, but still it would work best, if you have a permanent, accessible repository and before each edit do darcs pull, then edit, then do darcs push |
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| 00:28.32 | jpinx | rate: have you even looked at man rsync? |
| 00:28.38 | rate | jpinx: yes |
| 00:28.46 | c_newbie | abrotman: i still unable to make my php cli running correctly.. it still shown, The server requires pcntl_fork() to work. Make sure you are running the server on a POSIX machine. |
| 00:28.58 | rate | jpinx: i tried it too |
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| 00:29.14 | rate | jpinx: it works well in 2 cases, the bigger file one and the new date one |
| 00:29.19 | jpinx | has had great success with rsync'ing all kinds of wierd stuff |
| 00:29.25 | rate | i could not find a good mode to do what i am trying to do |
| 00:29.32 | abrotman | and did you ask ##php yet ? |
| 00:29.40 | rate | if you could point me to where to look i would happily read it |
| 00:29.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | rate, the advantage of a versoning system over rsync is definitely that it would warn you about any conflicts |
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| 00:29.56 | jpinx | rate: what you're looking for is in the exceptions and other options like that |
| 00:30.01 | GeoMus | how to keep iptables rules ?? |
| 00:30.07 | rate | CutMeOwnThroat: yes i see that, but since i would want the script to be run from cron that willjust complicate stuff |
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| 00:30.27 | rate | it will become far too complex with a revisioning system, but i do see that it might be my only option |
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| 00:30.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | rate, you should not run it from cron, but make yourself an alias for the edit command |
| 00:31.12 | c_newbie | abrotman: they claimed its OS problem |
| 00:31.27 | rate | CutMeOwnThroat: hmm, you mean run thescript manually |
| 00:31.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | like alias changefile="darcs pull reminder;vi reminder;darcs push reminder" |
| 00:31.36 | abrotman | c_newbie: did you ask someone here on adm64 to verify ? |
| 00:32.07 | rate | what if i forget to do that |
| 00:32.16 | rate | to run the script then my stuff would loose information |
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| 00:32.42 | rate | i thought about that too, and that i could create a backup system for it and log my changes (dropped info) |
| 00:32.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | rate, then you would get an editing conflict |
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| 00:32.48 | rate | but then how would i know that i have dropped something |
| 00:32.53 | rate | oh |
| 00:32.57 | rate | OH |
| 00:32.59 | rate | now i see |
| 00:33.07 | rate | so why is darcs better then svn |
| 00:33.11 | rate | in this case |
| 00:33.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | you wouldn't lose data, you would just not be able to upload |
| 00:33.28 | rate | i see you point |
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| 00:33.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | I've not used svn - darcs is kind of easy - do apt-cache show darcs |
| 00:34.02 | johndoe | im using radeon hd 2600xt graphics card. should i use fglrx or radeonhd as the driver? |
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| 00:34.22 | rate | thank you CutMeOwnThroat i will do what you have suggeste |
| 00:34.22 | rate | d |
| 00:34.29 | rate | i appricate your help thanks :) |
| 00:34.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | hope it'll work out for you :) |
| 00:34.41 | rate | yea :) |
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| 00:35.05 | rahsputin | Hi! i am trying to download a file on a server that is really strange. the file is always switching directorys and i am downloading with "wget" the file has a static url and file name i.e: wget -c <url><switching dir><file> is there a way to use something like * to byepass the switching directory ? |
| 00:35.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | rate, ideal would be a versioning system that automatically resolves conflicts that can be trivially resolved... but I'm not sure which ones do that |
| 00:36.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | rate, and I just mentioned darcs, because that's what I used - setting up a new repository is very easy with it.... I don't know if it's better in any regard |
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| 00:36.45 | octoserver | in menu.lst where it says root (hd0,1), they are actually looking for the partition with /boot/grub right ? |
| 00:38.10 | sajes | octoserver: They're looking for wherever you store your kernels. Ideally, /boot/. |
| 00:38.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | enouf, will give it a try, thx - $ wmctrl -l |wc -l -----------> 75 :) |
| 00:38.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | it's *not* 90, then :) |
| 00:39.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | jpinx, I could close xchat, that would be one window less :-P |
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| 00:39.12 | octoserver | why does the line start with the word root? but later they say root= (your / partitiotn) ? |
| 00:39.19 | c_newbie | abrotman: none is capable to answer |
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| 00:39.46 | jpinx | CutMeOwnThroat: :p |
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| 00:40.12 | abrotman | c_newbie: i didn't see you ask here |
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| 00:40.44 | jpinx | reads up darcs |
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| 00:42.43 | stoned | Booyakasha! |
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| 00:44.27 | c_newbie | abrotman: i cant define what my problem is. ive done what it need to be done.. but nothing is work |
| 00:45.12 | abrotman | c_newbie: you ask someone here with an etch amd64 box to try that function |
| 00:45.21 | abrotman | or whatever version you're trying to use |
| 00:46.28 | c_newbie | anyone using/installed amd64 etch ? |
| 00:46.41 | abrotman | that would be willing to try something with PHP5 for me ? |
| 00:48.02 | jamon | c_newbie, pastebin your code |
| 00:48.32 | c_newbie | its a framework |
| 00:48.36 | c_newbie | :| |
| 00:48.42 | jamon | which one? |
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| 00:49.02 | c_newbie | the application |
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| 00:49.35 | jamon | let me rephrase then, does it have a name, can I download the code? is it built from scratch? |
| 00:49.36 | jhambo | So follow the directions in the "vbox-install lenny" factoid but after finishing, I don't seem to have the commands related to vbox available. Is there something else I need to do? |
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| 00:50.19 | jamon | jhambo: no /usr/bin/VirtualBox ? |
| 00:50.29 | c_newbie | jamon: no you cant |
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| 00:50.47 | c_newbie | the code is as usual as php5 codes |
| 00:50.49 | jamon | well i'd ask in #php then |
| 00:50.50 | jhambo | jamon: nope |
| 00:50.54 | c_newbie | its using stream_select() |
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| 00:51.16 | c_newbie | the probs is on OS itself, not the code |
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| 00:52.02 | octoserver | i cant belioeve my sys just rebooted after ehat i did to it lol |
| 00:52.10 | jhambo | doh sorry killed my connection. hope I didn't miss something related to my virtualbox issue... |
| 00:52.28 | jpinx | jhambo: try #vbox |
| 00:52.29 | jamon | jhambo: nope |
| 00:52.39 | c_newbie | omg.. |
| 00:52.53 | c_newbie | 2 hours and wasted again |
| 00:52.55 | c_newbie | dpkg-buildpackage: binary and diff upload (original source NOT included) |
| 00:52.59 | jhambo | jpinx: hmm but it's related to the debian instructions for installing it... |
| 00:53.01 | jpinx | jhambo: you might need to download the manual separately |
| 00:53.20 | jpinx | jhambo: just aptitude install it |
| 00:53.35 | jpinx | but take a look at the package names and details first ;) |
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| 00:54.12 | _paco_ | eak, kanali acsana veya türk kanalina gel |
| 00:54.18 | abrotman | c_newbie: you can't give a five line sample that someone can try ? |
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| 00:54.21 | abrotman | !tr |
| 00:54.22 | dpkg | well, tr is türkçe yardIm için #debian.tr (irc.freenode.net): -- if you need help in turkish, please join #debian.tr on irc.freenode.net, or http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~rakewell/z88/keyboards/turkish.jpg |
| 00:54.40 | infinity1 | i'm bored |
| 00:54.48 | karmatronic | infinity1: go to bed! |
| 00:54.51 | infinity1 | xmas party in 2 hours. shit. |
| 00:54.58 | abrotman | infinity1: try #debian-offtopic |
| 00:55.04 | c_newbie | abrotman: its a framework, i dunno which sextion i should paste |
| 00:55.27 | abrotman | c_newbie: so write a five line piece of PHP that uses that function |
| 00:55.30 | infinity1 | oh no. the police are back. i just paid the jerk $95 for talking without hands-free |
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| 00:55.37 | jhambo | !tell jpinx about vbox-install lenny |
| 00:55.46 | jhambo | jpinx: that's what's not working for me |
| 00:55.53 | infinity1 | jhambo: vbox is okay. |
| 00:56.28 | jpinx | jhambo: not sure what isn't working for you - it worked for me perfectly :) |
| 00:56.35 | infinity1 | #ubuntu sux. too many noobs :) |
| 00:56.55 | jhambo | should I need to restart? |
| 00:57.10 | jpinx | jhambo: no - but if all else fails....... |
| 00:57.36 | jhambo | I am running a 2.6.27 kernel.... maybe that's the problem? |
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| 00:58.18 | infinity1 | jhambo: did you get install/compile errors? |
| 00:58.28 | indigoid | good morning |
| 00:58.36 | octoserver | i deleted on of my raid parttions md5 from my mdadm.conf, but it still can up as auto-read-only, is the raid number stored on the drives somewhere as well ? |
| 00:58.37 | jhambo | infinity1: nope |
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| 00:58.59 | jpinx | jhambo: define "notworking" |
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| 00:59.09 | c_newbie | aaaaaaaaargh |
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| 00:59.41 | jhambo | jpinx: I don't have the relevant commands. they just aren't there |
| 00:59.44 | jpinx | !not working |
| 00:59.44 | dpkg | Look buddy, "doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message". |
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| 01:00.04 | indigoid | why is it that an ext3 fs mounted on a disk block device will nfs export just fine but an ext3 fs in a file mounted on /dev/loop0 (also a block device) shows up no content when mounted by nfs? |
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| 01:00.18 | jhambo | I described what "not working" was in my first message. see above ;P |
| 01:00.24 | indigoid | i am confused, and this seems to have afflicted linux for a long time |
| 01:00.42 | c_newbie | :| |
| 01:02.15 | sebbs | feels joy over his newst installment of debian |
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| 01:02.59 | jpinx | jhambo: what commands are missing? are you using the gui version ? you really should be in #vbox |
| 01:03.00 | c_newbie | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/m16aee275 |
| 01:03.29 | RockerMONO | Hey, where's the option to change the resolution (in the GUI)? The programs dont even fully fit on the screen right now (new install) ^^ |
| 01:03.30 | abrotman | c_newbie: that's not very useful |
| 01:03.46 | abrotman | c_newbie: try to write a script that calls the pcntl_fork() |
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| 01:04.11 | jhambo | jpinx: so someone who has trouble installing kde in debian should ask in kde? |
| 01:04.46 | octoserver | is Preferred Minor: 3 the number of the raid device as in /dve/md3 ? |
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| 01:05.22 | RockerMONO | hi gewt |
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| 01:05.32 | gewt | hi |
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| 01:06.11 | jpinx | jhambo: I am pointing you in a nice way to where you might get more help. There are lots of good debian guys there |
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| 01:06.18 | c_newbie | php5 -r 'if(0 == ($pid = pcntl_fork())) { echo "child\n"; } else { echo "parent, child is $pid\n"; pcntl_wait($pid); }' ? |
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| 01:06.43 | c_newbie | parent, child is 24829 |
| 01:06.43 | c_newbie | child |
| 01:08.07 | c_newbie | abrotman: does it mean working? |
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| 01:09.19 | abrotman | does it work on your system ? |
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| 01:10.28 | RockerMONO | how do i change the res? >.> |
| 01:10.32 | c_newbie | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:10.48 | abrotman | c_newbie: sounds to me like your application is broken |
| 01:11.05 | gewt | RockerMONO, there MIGHT be a GUI way that you need to install, but sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server os easiest |
| 01:11.08 | gewt | is* |
| 01:11.13 | gewt | it might not be xorg-server |
| 01:11.18 | gewt | but it's soemthing like that |
| 01:11.38 | RockerMONO | gewt: there is no dpkg-reconfigure... |
| 01:11.48 | c_newbie | weird |
| 01:11.50 | gewt | RockerMONO, 0.o |
| 01:12.06 | c_newbie | Call to undefined function pcntl_fork() in <b>/root/test3.php</b> on line <b>3</b><br /> |
| 01:12.16 | gewt | sudo apt-get install dpkg then |
| 01:12.40 | supersoundguy | RockerMono, look in /usr/sbin...dpkg-reconfigure may not be in your PATH |
| 01:12.46 | gewt | or that |
| 01:13.05 | gewt | sudo /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server |
| 01:13.22 | supersoundguy | gewt: the package is xserver-xorg |
| 01:13.29 | gewt | oh |
| 01:13.43 | RockerMONO | yea, i got that but it says xorg-server... ah that'd explain it :P |
| 01:13.44 | gewt | then do sudo /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 01:14.32 | RockerMONO | hmm |
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| 01:15.35 | gewt | AciD, lulz cool rDNS |
| 01:15.54 | RockerMONO | hah, nice |
| 01:16.54 | abrotman | gewt: this is not #ubuntu |
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| 01:17.13 | gewt | I fail. |
| 01:17.18 | RockerMONO | abrotman: just ignore him if he gets annoying, he cant help it :P |
| 01:17.25 | gewt | wanders off to another channel |
| 01:17.42 | RockerMONO | pushes gewt out the door and goes back to trying to decide how much RAM to give his video card |
| 01:18.09 | abrotman | RockerMONO: it's that not all debian installations have sudo installed |
| 01:18.11 | abrotman | c_newbie: do NOT msg me |
| 01:18.27 | sebbs | roars at update-rc.d |
| 01:18.34 | Supaplex | !tell c_newbie -about msg |
| 01:18.38 | sebbs | retracts his roar |
| 01:18.38 | abrotman | c_newbie: you should ask ##php how to verify that the function is working correctly |
| 01:19.13 | gewt | RockerMONO, horeve rmuch it's ste to in the card/BIOS |
| 01:19.19 | RockerMONO | ... |
| 01:19.27 | RockerMONO | gewt: idk what it's set to, also you fail at typing |
| 01:19.39 | gewt | RockerMONO, D: |
| 01:19.41 | RockerMONO | probably 128MB |
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| 01:20.14 | gewt | 128 out of 512!? |
| 01:20.38 | gewt | that leaves you with less than 480MB ram! |
| 01:20.52 | c_newbie | how to make stream select working under debian64 |
| 01:20.56 | RockerMONO | gewt: that's why i was asking lol |
| 01:21.15 | gewt | RockerMONO, is the video card buitl into the mobo? |
| 01:21.21 | RockerMONO | unfortinately |
| 01:21.29 | gewt | try 64MB |
| 01:21.57 | RockerMONO | er.. i'd like it to work :P |
| 01:22.07 | gewt | mine works with 64MB |
| 01:22.23 | gewt | it's nto dbeian thugh and it can't run flightgear without crahsing...but it works fine |
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| 01:25.16 | jhambo | jpinx: wow I'm dumb. I had only installed the modules and not the actual program. thanks for the info |
| 01:25.21 | gewt | Will debian run easily on a pentium 1? |
| 01:25.29 | gewt | without too much work? |
| 01:26.23 | streuner | would be rather a PITA, IMO |
| 01:27.05 | sebbs | im running it on a 400mhz |
| 01:27.18 | streuner | sure, as server... |
| 01:27.21 | sebbs | 128 ram works well |
| 01:27.26 | sebbs | naw i run irssi mutt |
| 01:27.28 | streuner | nah |
| 01:27.30 | sebbs | wyrd |
| 01:27.33 | sebbs | vi |
| 01:27.35 | sebbs | ^^ |
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| 01:27.41 | streuner | and what kind of browser? dillo? :-P |
| 01:27.45 | jamon | sebbs: screen++ :) |
| 01:27.49 | sebbs | yea :) |
| 01:27.50 | jamon | elinks of course! |
| 01:28.15 | sebbs | i almost wanted to learn emacs once in my life |
| 01:28.23 | streuner | you just get some cheap hardware (x86) for less money, second hand |
| 01:28.24 | jamon | then you got one? |
| 01:28.42 | sebbs | its just that it feels like a OS and not a text editor, i would be in there too much of my time. it would not feel like linux anymore |
| 01:29.44 | sebbs | anyway /me goes back to his migration |
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| 01:31.53 | jpinx | jhambo: you are welcome - I am a novice myself ;) |
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| 01:39.26 | myosound_ | hey, what are you guys using for apache stats? something like awstats, or just parsing the log files with your own scripts? |
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| 01:41.16 | Thumpity | I am running Debian Sid with XFCE4 and IceWeasel.... I need java in my browser and its not working.... what package should I be looking for in the APT repo? Thanks! |
| 01:42.11 | abrotman | i386 or amd64? |
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| 01:42.35 | abrotman | apt-cache search java plugin .. see what turns up |
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| 01:43.39 | Thumpity | i386 |
| 01:43.55 | Thumpity | I installed sun-java6-plugin... do I have to restart x? |
| 01:45.26 | jpinx | Thumpity: you certainly have to restart the browser - not sure about x |
| 01:45.32 | abrotman | you have to restart your browser |
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| 01:47.44 | Thumpity | restart my browser.... duh.... thanks... sorry to be such a loser |
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| 02:01.24 | micols | i got a list of ips in a .txt file i want to grep -v a file for, any ideas? |
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| 02:03.01 | zinx | micols: grep -f $(sed -e 's/\./\\./g' < ips.txt) -v |
| 02:03.15 | zinx | maybe one \ the second time |
| 02:03.20 | zinx | not certain |
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| 02:03.59 | zinx | and uh, $<() i guess :x |
| 02:03.59 | zinx | or just <() |
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| 02:05.27 | roe_ | how do I kill a line I started typing on in the bash terminal? |
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| 02:06.05 | zinx | yeah, grep -f <(sed -e 's/\./\\./g' < ips.txt) -v |
| 02:06.21 | halemartian | anyone familiar with clonezilla? |
| 02:06.47 | ioudas | yea i hate that ugly girl |
| 02:07.13 | abrotman | halemartian: it's a distro based on debian, ask them for support |
| 02:07.26 | halemartian | i did no one reply |
| 02:08.26 | GeoMus | why Iptables freed rules after 1 min ?? |
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| 02:08.58 | halemartian | it says to use absolute paths and also not to use /media /mnt etc |
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| 02:09.12 | abrotman | halemartian: go ask them, or ##linux, you are offtopic here |
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| 02:11.45 | GeoMus | any idea .? |
| 02:12.23 | d-b | GeoMus: no idea. it shouldn't |
| 02:12.47 | GeoMus | why Iptables freed rules after some time ?? |
| 02:13.08 | TwistOfFate | hmm, might get subway for lunch |
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| 02:14.09 | octoserver | do you have someting in crontab to clear iptables after a certain amount of time GeoMus ? |
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| 02:15.21 | GeoMus | octoserver: no |
| 02:16.30 | octoserver | GeoMus: only other thing I can thing of is that another program running set all of the policies to accept |
| 02:16.55 | octoserver | a firewall program maybe ? |
| 02:17.00 | muddd | on etch i installed libntfs-3g ntfs-3g fuse-utils libfuse2 and when as root I mount hda1 it says its rw but i get permission denied when trying to make a text file |
| 02:17.22 | GeoMus | octoserver: do you mean I need to creat a cron reactive rules in iptables ?? |
| 02:17.47 | octoserver | no, once you et it it should stay |
| 02:17.59 | jpinx | muddd: if you mounted it as rot - the chances are it is owned by root ;) |
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| 02:18.33 | muddd | oh, hmm, i thought only root could mount it, lemme try as a normal user, i added root and the user in question to the fuse group also |
| 02:18.57 | muddd | :( only root can do that |
| 02:19.07 | jpinx | muddd: it might be more appropriate to chown the mounted fs |
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| 02:19.18 | muddd | ok will try thx |
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| 02:19.25 | jpinx | or to mount it with uid set |
| 02:19.31 | octoserver | I created one that runs a script to set all policies to accept after 5 min while I was testing changes that were made to iptables remotely from another pc |
| 02:20.01 | octoserver | that was to GeoMus |
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| 02:21.00 | Bigshot_ | where's the netboot image of debian can anyone give me a link to the iso of such file? |
| 02:21.19 | abrotman | !d-i |
| 02:21.19 | dpkg | 4.0r5 etch is now the "Stable" debian release (April 8, 2007) see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ for images. Sarge is still available at http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ Developers page is http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ .. If you want to make custom install cds, start with d-i. IRC: oftc.net: #debian-boot. Also ask about <errata>. |
| 02:21.44 | GeoMus | octoserver: ok thank you |
| 02:21.57 | octoserver | sure |
| 02:22.16 | Bigshot_ | octoserver: does debian have sleep hibernate etc functions? |
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| 02:22.25 | Bigshot_ | i am having laptop |
| 02:23.12 | Bigshot_ | huh? |
| 02:23.22 | amphi | Bigshot_: yes, but standard disclaimers apply |
| 02:23.25 | term_ | hello, i just installed debian using CD. it cannot start x however. the main error appears to be "Fatal server error: no screens found." :-D |
| 02:23.35 | octoserver | it should, but that would be based more on the kernel, and whatever may come with the desktop, like KDE Kpowersaved |
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| 02:24.04 | octoserver | Bigshot_: I havent tryed anything on a laotop though |
| 02:24.04 | Bigshot_ | since debian has older kernel will it support? |
| 02:24.15 | abrotman | Bigshot_: are you french? |
| 02:24.20 | Bigshot_ | why? |
| 02:24.22 | Bigshot_ | no |
| 02:24.30 | octoserver | deb kernel is pretty new isnt it? |
| 02:24.43 | jpinx | Bigshot_: I am running lenny on an old laptop with everything working |
| 02:24.45 | abrotman | Bigshot_: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r5/i386/iso-cd/debian-40r5a-etchnhalf-i386-netinst.iso |
| 02:24.47 | micols | term_: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 02:24.58 | micols | and google, its your best tool if you run debian/gentoo/slackware etc. |
| 02:25.01 | abrotman | term_: how did you install X ? |
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| 02:26.00 | JediatNight | is there a debian installation dvd . Only one which has all the major components such as KDE and a few applications? |
| 02:26.04 | term_ | abrotman: i am not entirely sure, i think i just followed the setup given by the livecd installation |
| 02:26.15 | micols | JediatNight: cd has everything you need |
| 02:26.18 | abrotman | term_: liveCD ? |
| 02:26.27 | abrotman | term_: aptitude install xorg .. make sure X is installed |
| 02:26.29 | micols | JediatNight: normally there are no dvds |
| 02:26.46 | JediatNight | micols: I'm looking for something like a dvd. Is there only one Cd or there are multiple CDs ? |
| 02:26.49 | micols | JediatNight: but you could make your own or perhaps find one, but you only need 150MB or so base install |
| 02:27.01 | micols | then fetch the rest from the net, as there sure are upgrades no matter which cd you burn |
| 02:27.16 | abrotman | JediatNight: yes |
| 02:27.17 | micols | JediatNight: multiple cds, all important programs are on cd1 |
| 02:27.25 | abrotman | JediatNight: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r5/i386/iso-dvd/ |
| 02:27.27 | JediatNight | it would be great to have a debian dvd just like suse or fedora |
| 02:27.30 | micols | you only need cd1. |
| 02:27.38 | micols | i have never burned any of the other in fact :) |
| 02:27.45 | term_ | abrotman: i did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and its asks to pick the x server driver |
| 02:27.46 | abrotman | JediatNight: if you'd rather use bittorrent, let me know and i'll give you a link |
| 02:27.54 | abrotman | term_: so what is your video card? |
| 02:27.57 | micols | JediatNight: just download it after install of cd1 |
| 02:27.59 | JediatNight | micols: there are 3 Dvds in that link |
| 02:28.02 | abrotman | JediatNight: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r5/i386/iso-dvd/ |
| 02:28.02 | micols | its better than installing a ton of old packages |
| 02:28.04 | abrotman | JediatNight: if you'd rather use bittorrent, let me know and i'll give you a link |
| 02:28.09 | term_ | abrotman: nvidia |
| 02:28.12 | abrotman | term_: need more |
| 02:28.22 | term_ | abrotman: how do i find out :D |
| 02:28.26 | micols | JediatNight: when i got suse 7.1 with 8 cds or so i thought it was the greatest, but i installed 4GB of obsolete software on my pc :) |
| 02:28.29 | abrotman | term_: it's your video card |
| 02:28.31 | abrotman | micols: stop already |
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| 02:28.38 | micols | abrotman: ? |
| 02:28.40 | JediatNight | :) |
| 02:28.46 | pablo | hi, can debian be installed with lilo instead of grub? |
| 02:29.02 | JediatNight | now, i'm running kubuntu and would like to switch to debian |
| 02:29.03 | abrotman | pablo: depending on the options you choose during install, yes |
| 02:29.08 | term_ | abrotman: there is a command i can use? i do not remember |
| 02:29.09 | joepa | I have a rather large (1.3g) directory that I transferred from one machine to another via rsync, and I find it mildly disconcerting that the resulting target directory is slightly larger than the source directory. Is this normal? |
| 02:29.13 | octoserver | i want to buy a mdadm because mdadm makes me hot |
| 02:29.16 | micols | pablo: just go back in the menu |
| 02:29.17 | abrotman | term_: lspci | grep VGA |
| 02:29.22 | micols | pablo: then you have the option, just back, move up :) |
| 02:29.25 | Bigshot_ | is netinstall for only one time install? can I like save the packages somewhere and store them for installing on some other computer? or will i have to download again for each computer? |
| 02:29.36 | pablo | micols: ok |
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| 02:30.02 | abrotman | Bigshot_: there is a way, but you'd have to setup more stuff (or transfer the packages later if you choose) |
| 02:30.24 | micols | joepa: yes if there has been saved data while the transfer was going on |
| 02:30.29 | micols | joepa: rsync is oneway only. |
| 02:30.30 | Bigshot_ | what way is it? |
| 02:30.42 | abrotman | joepa: cluster size perhaps ? |
| 02:30.59 | abrotman | Bigshot_: you can just copy them on CD/usb drive |
| 02:31.01 | micols | joepa: whops nevermind |
| 02:31.13 | Bigshot_ | will 2GB usb suffice? |
| 02:31.20 | abrotman | depending what you install, yes |
| 02:31.32 | JediatNight | micols: There are 3 dvds in the link you gave me , http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r5/i386/iso-dvd/ |
| 02:31.47 | abrotman | JediatNight: i gave you that link *twice* |
| 02:31.49 | abrotman | not him |
| 02:31.51 | term_ | abrotman: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0531 (rev a2) |
| 02:31.56 | abrotman | he didn't even know DVDs existed |
| 02:32.04 | abrotman | term_: does your network work ? |
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| 02:32.09 | JediatNight | shall i find the cd in the .../iso-cd / folder? |
| 02:32.14 | term_ | abrotman: no |
| 02:32.16 | abrotman | JediatNight: yes |
| 02:32.24 | abrotman | term_: did you install etch or lenny ? |
| 02:32.26 | JediatNight | thanks micols, abrotman |
| 02:32.31 | term_ | abrotman: no |
| 02:32.38 | micols | JediatNight: feel free to use the dvds, there is no need to however as there most likely are upgrades avilable to 50% of the packages, so youre going to fetch security updates anyway |
| 02:32.41 | abrotman | term_: that was not a yes/no question |
| 02:32.50 | term_ | abrotman: :-D. how do i find out |
| 02:32.58 | abrotman | term_: look at the name of the ISO you burned |
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| 02:33.19 | EagleSn | is it a date for lenny release? |
| 02:33.22 | abrotman | no |
| 02:33.26 | term_ | abrotman: stable release |
| 02:33.36 | JediatNight | micols: I'll see what i can do.. probably i'll do a netinst . .my connection is slow :/ . I was thinking of downloading the dvds buring them |
| 02:33.38 | abrotman | term_: and you have no idea what video card you have ? |
| 02:34.03 | term_ | abrotman: i dont |
| 02:34.23 | abrotman | term_: lspci -nn .. what are the xxxx:xxxx numbers at the end |
| 02:34.48 | term_ | abrotman: 10de:0531 |
| 02:34.58 | micols | JediatNight: i always do netinstall, its fast as you only need 150MB or so ( cant remember completely the size) |
| 02:35.16 | cast | do a netinst |
| 02:35.18 | micols | JediatNight: and you only get what you need, not a lot of unuseful packages that fills your hd. |
| 02:35.30 | cast | you get a full base debian install from it :) |
| 02:35.44 | EagleSn | wl driver is a restricted driver provided by Broadcom for its wireless bcm43xx devices series |
| 02:35.45 | micols | yes , even with Xorg if you chose to :) |
| 02:35.53 | abrotman | term_: GeForce 7150M |
| 02:35.56 | cast | also package mirrors are more frequent and often faster than iso mirrors |
| 02:35.58 | JediatNight | micols: I'll probably do a netinst . My hdd is about 120 gb .. lot of space .. to fill |
| 02:36.03 | term_ | abrotman: i will write that down :-D |
| 02:36.15 | abrotman | term_: we need to fix your network first |
| 02:36.21 | micols | JediatNight: netinstall is the right choice in all cases except dialup cases :) |
| 02:36.25 | JediatNight | are there any packages for managing songs on Ipod ? |
| 02:36.38 | EagleSn | i cannot compile the driver in kernels of 2.6.28 series, there is an error in compilation time, a function is called with too few arguments |
| 02:36.47 | micols | JediatNight: gtkpod and gnupod |
| 02:36.50 | term_ | abrotman: it is wireless? bcm43xx, i usually need to do ndiswrapper first |
| 02:36.59 | abrotman | JediatNight: rhythmbox and amarok too |
| 02:37.04 | abrotman | term_: no wired ? |
| 02:37.06 | EagleSn | but Ubuntu comes with wl driver compiled for 2.6.28 in its linux-restricted-modules package |
| 02:37.17 | micols | JediatNight: but backup your songs if you chose to use gnupod tools, as itunes will destroy them if you hook it up to an itunes afterwards :) |
| 02:37.22 | term_ | abrotman: i can get wired but i will lose this connection |
| 02:37.42 | JediatNight | micols: what about gtkpod? |
| 02:37.45 | abrotman | term_: that's okay .. |
| 02:38.01 | micols | JediatNight: back up your songs in any case, but yes it runs fine. |
| 02:38.02 | JediatNight | abrotman: Thanks |
| 02:38.28 | abrotman | term_: when it's connected make sure you have contrib and non-free sources in your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 02:38.28 | term_ | abrotman: what should i do after giving it wired |
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| 02:38.50 | term_ | abrotman: OK is that all? then i will come back here |
| 02:38.52 | micols | JediatNight: been using gtkpod for ipod, gphoto2 for ixus cam and xsane for scanning for some time, all is working flawless (except the times when xsane moves your scannerhead in the wrong direction because your backend is too old:P) |
| 02:39.08 | abrotman | term_: i'm not done yet |
| 02:39.22 | abrotman | !tell term_ about bcm43xx-fwcutter |
| 02:39.28 | abrotman | !tell term_ about nvidia one-liner |
| 02:39.29 | micols | also cdrecord works nicely, that you would need also :) |
| 02:39.31 | abrotman | !tell term_ about m-a |
| 02:39.34 | abrotman | !tell term_ about contrib |
| 02:39.37 | abrotman | !tell term_ about non-free |
| 02:39.42 | abrotman | oh jeez |
| 02:39.49 | abrotman | did it! |
| 02:40.01 | RockerMONO | errr |
| 02:40.06 | nullboy | lmao |
| 02:40.08 | RockerMONO | i'm not even gonna ask |
| 02:40.17 | RockerMONO | all i see is a big, stinky, epic failure :) |
| 02:40.30 | JediatNight | micols: I was trying to use amarok . it seems simple . I'll try gtkpod as well |
| 02:40.37 | EagleSn | abrotman do u have a Broadcom wireless? are you trying to use it? |
| 02:40.46 | abrotman | EagleSn: leave me alone |
| 02:41.02 | micols | JediatNight: its a music player, not ipod compatible i think but not sure |
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| 02:41.13 | micols | JediatNight: use xmms for music |
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| 02:41.19 | abrotman | xmms isn't in lenny or sid |
| 02:41.20 | micols | (not xmms2 if you dont like cli) :) |
| 02:41.33 | EagleSn | i also have one, i think it is a bcm4315 |
| 02:41.33 | JediatNight | micols: thanks, brb phone |
| 02:41.44 | EagleSn | it works with wl driver |
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| 02:41.52 | micols | abrotman: another reason to run etch :) |
| 02:41.54 | LEO__ | where is rotatelogs installed? |
| 02:42.01 | abrotman | micols: that's a dumb reason |
| 02:42.04 | Bigshot_ | abrotman: how can i save all the installed packages? |
| 02:42.07 | micols | abrotman: yes, migth as well compile it |
| 02:42.16 | abrotman | micols: gtk1 is deprecated |
| 02:42.24 | abrotman | Bigshot_: dpkg --get-selections |
| 02:42.31 | Bigshot_ | then ... |
| 02:42.38 | micols | abrotman: well the gtk frontends for xmms2 are terrible :) |
| 02:42.44 | abrotman | so use audacious |
| 02:43.07 | term_ | abrotman: does the bot come back |
| 02:43.11 | micols | uh have heard about it didnt know it was an xmms fork, interesting |
| 02:43.12 | abrotman | term_: not yet .. |
| 02:43.21 | abrotman | term_: man sources.list .. make sure you have contrib and non-free sources |
| 02:43.22 | MariachiAC | Hello, how can I get Debian working on a USB flash drive this way I cann boot? |
| 02:43.35 | abrotman | <dpkg> i guess usb install is Yes, it is possible to boot Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key, as long as your computer BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/i386/ch04s04.html.en , see "usb stick" section, http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ for images. (Older, outdated articles http://d-i.pascal.at/ and http://wiki.debian.org/USB-HD_Boot_Full |
| 02:43.35 | abrotman | _Debian) |
| 02:43.38 | micols | MariachiAC: google, you will need a tutorial for this :) |
| 02:43.48 | micols | and some time to spare. |
| 02:44.04 | Bigshot_ | abrotman: how can i save packages to a USB for later use? |
| 02:44.32 | Tramp | LEO__: "type rotatelogs" (as root) shows you - or "/msg dpkg search" to find out, how to search for files in general |
| 02:44.33 | amphi | !be syslinux barbie |
| 02:44.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | too late, dpkg's dead |
| 02:44.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | ^^^ |
| 02:44.53 | EagleSn | Bigshot_ download it from debian packges website |
| 02:44.59 | amphi | *sniff* |
| 02:45.09 | abrotman | Bigshot_: dpkg --get-selections > packagelist.txt ... then on the other box .. dpkg --set-selections < packagelist.txt && apt-get dselect-upgrade |
| 02:45.12 | LEO__ | Tramp, thank you very much |
| 02:45.17 | EagleSn | or with synaptic by checking box: Only download packages |
| 02:45.25 | term_ | abrotman: i see etch contrib main, no non-free |
| 02:45.41 | Tramp | LEO__: (dpkg is currently offline - try again when it's back) |
| 02:45.51 | EagleSn | you can add non-free |
| 02:45.52 | micols | term_: what are you in need of non-free for? |
| 02:45.56 | abrotman | term_: so add it at the end of the line |
| 02:46.05 | term_ | abrotman: "Line commented out by instlaler because it failed to verify: deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib" |
| 02:46.13 | abrotman | term_: and uncomment that |
| 02:46.16 | JediatNight | micols: I'm installing gtkpod |
| 02:46.19 | abrotman | and add non-free to the end also |
| 02:46.27 | Bigshot_ | abrotman: what do you mean by on other box? |
| 02:46.37 | abrotman | okay .. then just save the file |
| 02:46.43 | EagleSn | abrotman my wl driver does not compile in 2.6.28 kernels, do you know anything about? |
| 02:46.46 | micols | JediatNight: there is a smart sound level adjuster program for it |
| 02:46.55 | micols | JediatNight: cannot remember its name though. |
| 02:46.57 | abrotman | EagleSn: there is not a .28 kernel in debian |
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| 02:47.06 | MariachiAC | thank you. |
| 02:47.15 | EagleSn | abrotman i know, i compiled it |
| 02:47.17 | streuner | !kernel |
| 02:47.18 | JediatNight | micols: I'll try to find out, thanks |
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| 02:47.25 | micols | but it does use statistics of the human ear to add mp3 tag info to the mp3 without reencodign it |
| 02:47.25 | abrotman | EagleSn: so ask them, not us or use a debian kernel |
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| 02:47.49 | term_ | abrotman: what is line for non-free |
| 02:48.07 | abrotman | term_: you just add it at the end after the contrib |
| 02:48.54 | EagleSn | but in 2.6.26 i have another problem, my driver for dvb af9015 does not compile, then 2.6.28 comes with this module builtin |
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| 02:49.27 | abrotman | dpkg: wb |
| 02:49.28 | dpkg | thanks, abrotman. It's good to be back. |
| 02:51.08 | Bigshot_ | abrotman: will the command you gave me download all the packages "Again"? |
| 02:51.22 | abrotman | if you use the whole thing |
| 02:51.25 | JediatNight | micols: i'm trying to play songs from the ipod using gtkpod. It doesn't seem to work |
| 02:51.35 | Bigshot_ | what do you mean the whole thing? |
| 02:51.39 | abrotman | JediatNight: tried rhythmbox ? |
| 02:51.45 | EagleSn | godbye boys |
| 02:51.53 | JediatNight | abrotman: not yet. I'll do it now |
| 02:51.59 | micols | JediatNight: normally they recommend gnupod_init on the ipod before gtkpod |
| 02:52.16 | micols | (perl script) |
| 02:52.20 | JediatNight | micols: I'll try, thanks |
| 02:52.41 | micols | and..backup |
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| 02:53.00 | micols | gnupod erases your ipod. |
| 02:53.23 | term_ | abrotman: OK, this is done |
| 02:53.39 | abrotman | term_: so how many lines do you have in your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 02:53.48 | abrotman | !tell JediatNight about ipod |
| 02:54.00 | JediatNight | thanks abrotman |
| 02:54.21 | abrotman | JediatNight: is it an ipod touch ? |
| 02:54.32 | JediatNight | abrotman: its a classic 80 gb |
| 02:55.07 | abrotman | yeah... rhythmbox should work .. when my bro jacked his into my laptop (running lenny) gnome automatically tried to open rhythmbox to play it |
| 02:55.19 | Bigshot_ | abrotman: how can i save all the packages to safe place for installing on other computer? |
| 02:55.27 | abrotman | Bigshot_: i told you twice |
| 02:55.44 | Bigshot_ | but that's only gonna save the "List" right not the packages? |
| 02:56.01 | abrotman | Bigshot_: oh .. just put them on a CD from /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
| 02:56.28 | Bigshot_ | so all the packages from netboot are save in that directory? |
| 02:56.33 | Bigshot_ | saved** |
| 02:56.59 | term_ | abrotman: 2 |
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| 02:59.24 | abrotman | term_: okay .. so plug in the wired NIC, and restart your networking (or laptop if you don't know how) .. and run `aptitude update && aptitude install bcm43xx-fwcutter` .. |
| 02:59.50 | term_ | abrotman: OK, anything else |
| 03:00.01 | abrotman | term_: also install something like irssi so you can IRC from your laptop |
| 03:00.09 | term_ | abrotman: OK |
| 03:00.34 | term_ | abrotman: it will recognize the wire? i will get internet connection by just restarting laptop |
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| 03:00.56 | abrotman | term_: hopefully .. you didn't tell me what knid of wired NIC it was |
| 03:01.38 | term_ | abrotman: how do i find out :D |
| 03:02.07 | abrotman | lspci | grep -i net |
| 03:02.56 | term_ | abrotman: network controller: broadcom corporation unknown device 4328 (rev 03) |
| 03:03.02 | abrotman | that's your wifi |
| 03:03.19 | term_ | abrotman: nvidia corporation unknown device 054c (rev a2) |
| 03:03.33 | abrotman | gives term_ a lenny netinst |
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| 03:04.41 | term_ | abrotman: what? sorry |
| 03:04.52 | Bigshot_ | abrotman: you didn't tell me man can I later transfer all those packages to USB from /var/.../archive/ and install on other computer? |
| 03:05.01 | abrotman | you just put them in the same place |
| 03:05.36 | abrotman | term_: you might do better to install lenny instead of etch |
| 03:05.50 | term_ | abrotman: testing version? |
| 03:05.54 | abrotman | yeah |
| 03:06.04 | term_ | abrotman: what is difference, CD/DVD |
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| 03:06.14 | abrotman | term_: lspci -nn .. what is the number at the end of the nvidia network line ? |
| 03:06.21 | Bigshot_ | anybody alive guys except abrotman |
| 03:06.27 | abrotman | i am! |
| 03:06.54 | abrotman | !apt-zip |
| 03:06.54 | dpkg | Update a non-networked computer using apt and removable media. Just aptitude install apt-zip and read the docs in /usr/share/doc/apt-zip, or ask me about <apt offline> <apt-walkabout> |
| 03:06.57 | term_ | abrotman: network controller? 14e4:4328 (rev 03) |
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| 03:07.27 | abrotman | term_: no, that's the broadcom again .. the other one |
| 03:08.03 | term_ | abrotman: 10de:0563 |
| 03:08.04 | Bigshot_ | so can i after installation of debian transfer all the saved packages in /var/cache/apt/archives to USB and install in another computer? |
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| 03:08.35 | abrotman | term_: yeah, the .18 that etch defaults to doesn't know about that |
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| 03:09.13 | term_ | abrotman: sorry i mean 054c |
| 03:09.22 | abrotman | that's important!! |
| 03:09.28 | term_ | abrotman: sorry :-D |
| 03:09.57 | nsadmin | Bigshot_: so you've read and understood everything about this apt-zip? |
| 03:10.08 | Bigshot_ | oh was it for me? |
| 03:10.15 | abrotman | term_: lenny knows that as forcedeth .. etch has no idea what that is |
| 03:10.16 | Bigshot_ | lemme see |
| 03:10.35 | abrotman | term_: get the RC1 from debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 03:11.11 | stew | abrotman: etchnhalf dles |
| 03:11.12 | term_ | abrotman: should it be netinst |
| 03:11.14 | stew | does* |
| 03:11.24 | abrotman | stew: i figured, but he'll have to get one iso or the other |
| 03:11.40 | abrotman | term_: if you really want 'stable', then as stew pointed out, use etchnhalf .. |
| 03:12.02 | term_ | abrotman: what's that? |
| 03:12.09 | abrotman | term_: it's an updated kernel for etch |
| 03:12.28 | term_ | abrotman: where can this be found |
| 03:12.34 | stew | term_: /msg dpkg etchnhalf |
| 03:12.46 | term_ | abrotman: (any advantages to me over 'lenny'?) |
| 03:12.49 | abrotman | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r5/i386/iso-cd/debian-40r5a-etchnhalf-i386-netinst.iso |
| 03:13.28 | nsadmin | term_: more well-tested, for one thing |
| 03:13.45 | Bigshot_ | nsadmin so all the packages from net install are stored in a archive? in /var? |
| 03:14.04 | nsadmin | Bigshot_: I'm not familiar with it myself |
| 03:14.17 | Bigshot_ | and you call thyself "admin" |
| 03:14.28 | nsadmin | I do! |
| 03:14.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | perhaps it's a typo and was meant to be "msadmin" |
| 03:15.14 | Bigshot_ | microsoft? |
| 03:15.15 | RockerMONO | what package is ifconfig in? |
| 03:15.16 | nsadmin | I run the pacman arcade machines... |
| 03:15.21 | nsadmin | mspacman |
| 03:15.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | Bigshot_, all installed packages are stored in /var/cache/apt/archives/... |
| 03:15.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | until some size limit is hit |
| 03:16.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | 2 GB or so... |
| 03:16.03 | Bigshot_ | what's the size limit? |
| 03:16.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | <-------psychic |
| 03:16.16 | Bigshot_ | LOL |
| 03:16.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | but I don't remember exactly |
| 03:17.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | ho, much more |
| 03:17.22 | term_ | abrotman: is it necessary to get X running |
| 03:17.26 | nsadmin | Bigshot_: sometimes people (admins included) don't need to go through every little tool and concept... they do their job and some things never come up... for example, all my boxes are networked, so I don't need to use a method that assumes that's not the case |
| 03:17.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | $ du -hs /var/cache/apt/archives ----> 6.4G |
| 03:17.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | Bigshot_, ^^ |
| 03:17.49 | abrotman | term_: it's going to be necessary for your network to either get etchnhalf or lenny |
| 03:18.12 | term_ | abrotman: etch does not recognize my wireless? |
| 03:18.14 | Bigshot_ | CutMeOwnThroat: so i can copy all the packages in that directory into a USB? |
| 03:18.22 | twobitsprite | I'm running e17 (built from source) and its mouse sensitivity settings aren't precise enough... is there another way to adjust that? |
| 03:18.26 | nsadmin | (btw, that differential equations class you took in the admin program... probably never come up either... |
| 03:18.58 | abrotman | term_: it might recognize your wireless .. but we need the wired to get the firmware for your wireless |
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| 03:19.11 | twobitsprite | nsadmin: who uses diff equations as an admin?? |
| 03:19.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | Bigshot_, these are the .deb's that you already installed on your machine... they are essentially kept, so you can roll back to older versions after you installed a newer version - sorry if you were talking about something else |
| 03:19.22 | term_ | abrotman: OK, i see |
| 03:19.26 | nsadmin | twobitsprite: exactly my point |
| 03:19.41 | twobitsprite | nsadmin: I've been an admin for years and can't even imagine when I would use that |
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| 03:20.47 | Bigshot_ | abrotman: so is there a way to install the packages from USB or not? |
| 03:20.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | bah, you just got no imagination |
| 03:21.06 | nsadmin | I guess maybe to figure some recurrance relation involved in predicting disk usage over some long period... but I don't even see that, if I'm about to run out of disk space, I just add more |
| 03:21.08 | abrotman | gives up |
| 03:21.30 | Bigshot_ | come on man |
| 03:21.34 | Bigshot_ | :) |
| 03:21.39 | Bigshot_ | cheer up |
| 03:21.46 | nsadmin | read up, |
| 03:21.52 | nsadmin | that'll cheer him up |
| 03:22.19 | Bigshot_ | lines said by abrotman ? |
| 03:22.30 | nsadmin | more to the point, read, understand, come up with things to try, try, learn, think/integrate, repeat |
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| 03:24.49 | Bigshot_ | why would i need apt-zip for? |
| 03:24.57 | clocksys | someone know if SDHC cards are compatible with PDA mobile 5 ? |
| 03:25.00 | Guerin | because |
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| 03:25.09 | Guerin | !htfswk clocksys? |
| 03:25.10 | dpkg | clocksys: How The Fuck Should We Know? |
| 03:25.22 | cast | Description: Update a non-networked computer using apt and removable media |
| 03:25.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | Bigshot_, apt-zip... /msg dpkg apt-zip |
| 03:25.26 | cast | seems pretty obvious. |
| 03:25.29 | nsadmin | Bigshot_, having said that, they're probably going to continue to try helping you... but if you look like you['re untrainable because you won't learn, they're probably going to give up |
| 03:25.39 | clocksys | Guerin: just check'n never know ;) |
| 03:25.44 | jpinx | Bigshot_: this is the place to get help *after* you have read all the relevant pages in debian.org etc |
| 03:26.08 | LEO__ | how do I install rotatelog |
| 03:26.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | Guerin, oh, I normally just say "yes" :) |
| 03:26.13 | nsadmin | right now that is how it looks: not that you -can't- learn, but that you purposely -won't- learn |
| 03:26.26 | Guerin | heh |
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| 03:27.33 | nullboy | Bigshot_: what did i tell you man |
| 03:27.41 | nsadmin | was it the inventor of lisp who said "you can't explain anything to a rock" |
| 03:27.47 | nullboy | lol |
| 03:28.05 | nullboy | he spent about a month in ##slackware doing the same shit |
| 03:28.29 | nsadmin | hey, I'm all about calling it out... |
| 03:28.47 | nsadmin | might as well do it early |
| 03:29.21 | Bigshot_ | poor nullboy don't resort to offensive terms |
| 03:29.27 | nsadmin | so instead of wasting time for a month... it's only about a minute :) |
| 03:29.49 | nullboy | well this is shit |
| 03:29.59 | Bigshot_ | again |
| 03:30.20 | nsadmin | Bigshot_: what is your underlying issue really? |
| 03:30.41 | Bigshot_ | well i want to save all the packages that i've downloaded for installing them on other computer |
| 03:31.29 | nsadmin | howbout running a package cache on one machine, which functions as a mirror of the packages you do install |
| 03:32.09 | nsadmin | all other machines use that machine in their sources.list |
| 03:32.14 | nsadmin | anything like that exist? |
| 03:33.01 | nsadmin | sort of like a mirror except it only stores packages that were actually requested |
| 03:33.58 | jpinx | Bigshot_: if the machines are the same, just do the install and dd it over to another hdd |
| 03:34.14 | stew | nsadmin: have a look at apt-proxy, approx, apt-cacher, apt-move, apt-zip |
| 03:34.16 | abrotman | !wwlr |
| 03:34.17 | dpkg | Lenny (5.0) will release WIR, SIYH and RSN. It will not be released while there are release critical bugs: http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical and see "Number concerning the next release". It might release before the end of 2008, but then again, it might not. Ask me about <wir> <siyh> <rsn> <lenny status> <lenny pool> and see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2008/07/msg00005.html |
| 03:34.19 | abrotman | yay update! |
| 03:35.02 | abrotman | stew: do you know if anyone has suggested that lenny be reopened if vote003 delays lenny ? |
| 03:35.29 | nsadmin | Bigshot_: so look into the things stew mentioned... about four or five things |
| 03:35.50 | nullboy | can't you also use aptitude to download a list of packages, just script it |
| 03:35.54 | stew | abrotman: i've not heard. i've heard rumors of people considering ignoring such an outcome |
| 03:36.06 | stew | nullboy: have a look at apt-zip |
| 03:36.11 | nullboy | stew: cool |
| 03:36.12 | abrotman | stew: wouldn't that kind of defeat the purpose of a vote? |
| 03:36.17 | stew | abrotman: yes |
| 03:36.34 | abrotman | is new to this democracy thing .. being from .us and all :) |
| 03:37.27 | stew | abrotman: expect the drama surrounding manoj's decision to make all the other options supermajority to intensify after the resolution passes |
| 03:37.33 | nsadmin | nullboy: sure but the downloads would be faster if the packages were in the cache of a machine in the same ethernet with the caching box |
| 03:37.54 | abrotman | stew: i expect resignations |
| 03:38.13 | nullboy | nsadmin: well i was think more about downloading them once...to a single system and then installing over the lan network |
| 03:39.27 | nsadmin | nullboy: the only difference being, packages requested get downloaded to the cache as part of them being requested by another machine on the lan |
| 03:39.54 | nsadmin | nullboy: you just invented a "mirror" |
| 03:40.06 | nullboy | nsadmin: yeah i'm cool like that ;) |
| 03:40.43 | nsadmin | mmhmm |
| 03:41.19 | nsadmin | the mirror verify this? :) |
| 03:41.44 | nullboy | lol |
| 03:41.59 | nullboy | that was actually a pretty good one |
| 03:42.02 | stew | abrotman: yeah |
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| 03:42.59 | abrotman | stew: can they mark a GR null and void ? |
| 03:44.39 | stew | abrotman: with another GR |
| 03:45.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | vote3? |
| 03:45.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | er 003 |
| 03:45.11 | abrotman | this is 003 |
| 03:45.20 | abrotman | (002 is going at the same time i guess) |
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| 03:45.36 | stew | 002 should be over |
| 03:46.33 | abrotman | didn't see a last call .. but maybe it got lost |
| 03:47.07 | stew | abrotman: it was a first and last call, becuase of the shortened voting period |
| 03:47.12 | abrotman | oh |
| 03:49.52 | stew | it was also apparantly, record low turnout |
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| 03:51.37 | abrotman | seems odd considering the topic .. |
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| 04:09.39 | ne78 | Where can i find debian woody archive ? (I know i'm oldschool :-) |
| 04:10.33 | ne78 | I thought archive would have old debian release, but i doesn't seems so. |
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| 04:10.40 | ne78 | i mean archive.debian.org |
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| 04:16.31 | superjet_busy | !tell ne78 about woody |
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| 04:17.28 | ne78 | superjet_busy: cdimage are nice but i would prefer the pool, do you think it is availaible ? |
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| 04:18.22 | superjet_busy | ne78: it exists in archive.debian.org |
| 04:18.24 | Bigshot_ | while installing debian it says my wificard 4965abgn requires non-free firmware what should i do? |
| 04:18.34 | ne78 | superjet_busy: i dont think so |
| 04:18.42 | abrotman | ne78: yes, it is there |
| 04:18.43 | ne78 | superjet_busy: lemme check again |
| 04:18.58 | abrotman | http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/ |
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| 04:21.25 | ne78 | superjet_busy: mmh right seems the package i'm looking for was packaged only in sarge, and the version is too high, sorry for the inconvenience |
| 04:22.22 | jhambo | So it follow the directions in the "vbox-install lenny" factoid but when I run `virtualbox` i get: "WARNING: /dev/vboxdrv not writable for some reason" even though I did indeed add myself to the vboxusers group. How can I get this working? |
| 04:22.57 | jhambo | So it --> so I |
| 04:23.08 | superjet_busy | ne78: get foo.{desc,diff.gz,orig.tar.gz} from sarge to build by youself |
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| 04:23.20 | jpinx | jhambo: sounds like a permissions issue |
| 04:23.51 | jhambo | jpinx: crw-rw---- 1 root root 10, 60 2008-12-14 20:01 /dev/vboxdrv |
| 04:24.21 | ne78 | superjet_busy: actually i'm looking for a binary of subversion prior to 1.0, and there aren't, i remebered using it on woody, but i was probably from experimental... |
| 04:25.20 | enouf | jhambo: obviously root:root is wrong |
| 04:26.01 | enouf | jhambo: obviously root:vboxusers is morr correct |
| 04:26.11 | abrotman | ne78: you could uh .. upgrade to one of sarge/etch/lenny .. |
| 04:26.55 | ne78 | abrotman: i need to dump some old repositories, and the format changed, i'm running sid |
| 04:27.13 | ne78 | abrotman: and 0.33 doesn't compile anymore on sid |
| 04:27.23 | abrotman | ne78: uh waht? |
| 04:27.45 | abrotman | you're trying to run woody packages on sid ? |
| 04:27.51 | ne78 | abrotman: yes |
| 04:27.56 | abrotman | !pal ne78 |
| 04:27.57 | dpkg | points at ne78 and laughs uproariously |
| 04:27.57 | ne78 | abrotman: if i can find it |
| 04:28.28 | ne78 | abrotman: svn prior to 1.0 used to include a STATIC binary of svadmin, i remember |
| 04:28.43 | ne78 | abrotman: that's what i'm looking for |
| 04:28.49 | abrotman | !tell ne78 about sdn |
| 04:28.51 | abrotman | maybe something there |
| 04:29.03 | ne78 | abrotman: i checked |
| 04:29.39 | Bigshot_ | abrotman where can i get iwlwifi-4965-1,code? this site http://intellinuxwireless.org/?p=iwlwifi&n=Downloads only has iwlwifi-4965-2.code! |
| 04:29.52 | Bigshot_ | i want it to install from netboot |
| 04:29.59 | ne78 | abrotman: http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-devel-changes@lists.debian.org/msg31682.html some traces here |
| 04:30.07 | abrotman | !tell Bigshot_ about iwlwifi |
| 04:30.12 | ne78 | abrotman: but that's 2003 |
| 04:30.25 | jhambo | exit |
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| 04:31.35 | Bigshot_ | abrotman willl i have to pay for it? |
| 04:31.40 | abrotman | Bigshot_: uh no |
| 04:31.52 | Bigshot_ | or can i download it on USB? |
| 04:31.58 | Bigshot_ | and then do the installation |
| 04:32.21 | Bigshot_ | i've got this tgz package for "-2" architecture |
| 04:32.32 | Bigshot_ | should i unzip it and then load it on USB and then install? |
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| 04:33.24 | superjet_busy | ne78: it can't compiled or just you don't want to rebuild one with dh-make? |
| 04:34.00 | ne78 | superjet_busy: I found it http://ubuntu2.cica.es/guadalinex/repositorio/pool/main/s/subversion/subversion_0.33.0-1_i386.deb, cool |
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| 04:34.45 | ne78 | superjet_busy: abrotman: thank you anyway for the help |
| 04:35.08 | superjet_busy | ne78: without ??.so problem? |
| 04:35.49 | ne78 | superjet_busy: svn prior to 1.0 used to include a STATIC binary of svadmin |
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| 04:36.17 | ne78 | superjet_busy: /usr/bin/svadmin-static that was the file i was looking for, got it ? |
| 04:36.24 | superjet_busy | ne78: oh, you can always find old ones from snapshot.debian.net |
| 04:36.32 | ne78 | superjet_busy: nope too old |
| 04:36.47 | ne78 | superjet_busy: it's from 2003, and snapshot doesn't go that far |
| 04:36.48 | superjet_busy | ne78: :) |
| 04:38.24 | superjet_busy | ne78: yes, though i still think recompile maybe better |
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| 05:03.23 | nsadmin | !find HTML/Form.pm etch |
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| 05:04.01 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'HTML/Form.pm' (1): (/usr/share/perl5/HTML/Form.pm) in perl/libwww-perl. |
| 05:04.30 | nsadmin | what's the url for the maint page for libwww-perl? |
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| 05:11.49 | Metatron | what are the open source alternatives to flash and jave for web browser (using opera) called in the repositories? |
| 05:12.00 | Metatron | java not jave |
| 05:12.08 | cast | java is open source |
| 05:12.18 | Metatron | well the non-sun one |
| 05:12.21 | cast | gnash, swfdec |
| 05:12.25 | cast | [for flash] |
| 05:12.31 | cast | sun java is GPLv3 last i heard |
| 05:13.49 | hoxu | cast, the packages seem to be still in non-free, and package descriptions mention you need to accept Sun's EULA, though |
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| 05:14.39 | Metatron | what about something based on gcj, i see a gcj=compat plugin in the repo |
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| 05:17.42 | superjet_busy | !tell nsadmin about cpan |
| 05:20.25 | Supaplex | !tell me about the good old days, and then a funny joke. |
| 05:20.29 | Supaplex | ;) |
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| 05:25.36 | kryptoz | hi..I have files (vz_file1, vz_file2, vivo_file1,vivo_file2,vevo_file1,vevo_file2,vevo_file3), from these if I want to list only vz/vevo files how can I do that ..tried "[vz/vevo]_file*" |
| 05:25.38 | Metatron | dont see ghash in repository...is it there and im missing it or do i need to build it |
| 05:26.13 | jpinx | Metatron: it's gnash |
| 05:26.30 | hoxu | kryptoz, {vz,vevo}_file* - man bash, search for "Pattern Matching" |
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| 05:27.11 | kryptoz | hoxu, thank you so much... and sorry for being stupid to not see the man |
| 05:27.23 | kryptoz | will definitely check the manual before i ask |
| 05:27.25 | kryptoz | sorry again |
| 05:27.40 | Supaplex | no worries |
| 05:27.43 | hoxu | kryptoz, no problem, I couldn't actually find it myself... it's actuaally covered in "Brace Expansion" :P |
| 05:27.48 | Metatron | hmm im searching on g n a s h |
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| 05:29.45 | Metatron | im just looking in synaptic, ill look on website |
| 05:30.42 | Metatron | http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages shows no hits for gnash |
| 05:31.36 | Metatron | found it lenny sorry |
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| 05:34.26 | AussieGuy | hi, ive got 4.0 etch, and apt-get cant find transmissioncli? |
| 05:35.08 | newsense | its in transmission package |
| 05:35.14 | newsense | both gui and cli |
| 05:35.30 | newsense | in lenny anyways |
| 05:35.52 | AussieGuy | ah k hmmm......well, I dont want to install X, because its a dedicated server and would never get used |
| 05:36.55 | newsense | try rtorrent |
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| 05:38.22 | valdyn | !info transmission-cli etch |
| 05:40.29 | newsense | transmission-cli is a package heh my bad |
| 05:41.25 | Supaplex | bad^3 |
| 05:41.45 | newsense | :( |
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| 05:44.26 | Guerin | rtorrent > * |
| 05:45.03 | stoned | hi |
| 05:45.07 | Guerin | gh |
| 05:45.19 | stoned | deluge-torrent > * |
| 05:45.31 | stoned | well non console stuff |
| 05:45.37 | stoned | you need pygtk but its painless |
| 05:46.20 | Guerin | stoned: it's written in python. That means it's not a serious contender for a dedicated torrent server. |
| 05:46.35 | Guerin | i know, because I used to run one :) |
| 05:47.28 | stoned | I just discovered open ID |
| 05:47.32 | stoned | do you know what it is? |
| 05:47.37 | Guerin | yes, I do. |
| 05:47.39 | stoned | It seems interesting |
| 05:47.48 | stoned | is it secure/safe/easy/... useful? |
| 05:48.22 | Guerin | I believe so |
| 05:49.01 | Guerin | the major problem of which I'm aware is the lack of a broad network of users |
| 05:49.32 | stoned | VeriSignâs Personal Identity Provider |
| 05:49.34 | stoned | Free OpenID Provider with support for multi-factor authentication. |
| 05:49.46 | stoned | Verisign is one of the biggest I think |
| 05:49.49 | stoned | this should be fine |
| 05:49.57 | stoned | or you think one should run his own auth server? |
| 05:49.58 | Guerin | verisign are evil |
| 05:50.11 | Guerin | but their participation in a project like openid is a mitigating factor |
| 05:50.13 | stoned | you and your anti corporate thingies |
| 05:50.22 | stoned | god |
| 05:50.30 | Guerin | no, I'm not anticorporate |
| 05:50.37 | stoned | or whatever you are |
| 05:50.39 | stoned | you're always like |
| 05:50.41 | stoned | this is evil |
| 05:50.43 | stoned | and that is evil |
| 05:50.46 | Guerin | yes, many things are |
| 05:50.49 | stoned | dude, its fucking the world, its ALL evil |
| 05:50.51 | stoned | fuck it |
| 05:50.57 | Guerin | not everything is evil |
| 05:51.16 | stoned | I know if ya don't shuddup I'm gonna go mid-evil on your hiney |
| 05:51.29 | Guerin | i sort of agree with the point you're trying to make - you have to trust SOMEONE whatever you do |
| 05:51.48 | stoned | eh |
| 05:51.55 | stoned | everyone needs a posse |
| 05:52.06 | stoned | some are insane clowns, some are stoenrs |
| 05:52.08 | Guerin | and I don't mean people should become hermits - just that they should mitigate risk of exposure to evilness where they can, and that means being discerning about who you work with |
| 05:52.18 | Guerin | so, not facebook, for instance |
| 05:52.25 | stoned | heh |
| 05:52.33 | stoned | yeh i remeber you're anti facebook too |
| 05:52.39 | Guerin | those fuckers are as evil as google could have been if they hadn't built tyheir entire reputation on not being evil |
| 05:52.45 | Guerin | yeah |
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| 05:52.54 | stoned | have you heard that Marily Manson song called 1996, Track 13 from the AntiChrist Superstar |
| 05:52.57 | stoned | great song |
| 05:53.06 | Guerin | my deb is a mazza fan |
| 05:53.11 | stoned | http://www.lyricsfreak.com/m/marilyn+manson/1996_20088965.html |
| 05:53.18 | stoned | enjoy the words |
| 05:53.25 | stoned | I'm sure you will like them a lot |
| 05:53.34 | Guerin | i personally think he's an egotistical twat. Portrait of an American Family was a good dirty rock album, but mostly not written by him. |
| 05:54.27 | stoned | but that song is cool cuz it has lots of anti things in it |
| 05:54.27 | Guerin | stoned: see my comment at HH:52:08 - i'm not anti |
| 05:54.34 | stoned | yeh |
| 05:54.42 | stoned | but its a cool song anyway |
| 05:54.51 | stoned | and yes you're still anti lots of stuff |
| 05:55.01 | Guerin | i'm anti lots of stupid stuff |
| 05:55.08 | Guerin | guilty as charged |
| 05:55.09 | stoned | but anti nonetheless |
| 05:55.10 | stoned | ! |
| 05:55.15 | stoned | yes! I win! |
| 05:55.27 | stoned | hey you wanna go to #debian-chat |
| 05:55.32 | stoned | before we get yelled at |
| 05:55.36 | Guerin | better that than being pro- lots of stupid stuff, as you are :) |
| 05:55.40 | stoned | cuz I know these two fucks who like to yell a lot |
| 05:55.43 | Guerin | have to cook dinner |
| 05:55.46 | stoned | and I'm not sure if these two fucks are around |
| 05:55.56 | stoned | and I don't feel like getting fucked with |
| 05:56.08 | stoned | enjoy dinner |
| 05:56.12 | stoned | I'm gonna go back to coding |
| 05:56.16 | stoned | nice chattin with ya |
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| 06:32.36 | sond | whats the name if the curses based app that sets up network address subnet gateway etc ? |
| 06:33.09 | sond | *of the.. |
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| 06:33.12 | orgthingy | hi |
| 06:33.13 | Guerin | stoned: emacs? |
| 06:33.17 | Guerin | sond: emacs? |
| 06:33.21 | stoned | dude |
| 06:33.22 | stoned | seriously |
| 06:33.25 | orgthingy | I manually did my swap file this time, and Ive set it to 2GB |
| 06:33.32 | Guerin | stoned: that's all I ever used. |
| 06:33.32 | stoned | passes Guerin a doobie |
| 06:33.39 | stoned | no I mean its good |
| 06:33.44 | stoned | emacs is the shit |
| 06:33.47 | stoned | emacs++ |
| 06:33.47 | orgthingy | the problemthe problem is, its "slower" now |
| 06:34.34 | sond | nah.. redhat used to call it netconfig or something.. |
| 06:35.25 | sond | this is a fresh install .. but i skipped the network bit |
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| 06:48.00 | karlpinc | stoned : If you like emacs, consider mg -- the lightweight emacs. |
| 06:48.17 | infinity1 | whats a good program for an X terminal ? |
| 06:48.27 | infinity1 | gnome term? xterm? eterm? |
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| 06:49.28 | karlpinc | infinity1 : They're all pretty much the same. I tend towards xtgerm, just because it never does wierd things when I press the wrong keys (as some "desktop aware" applications are wont to do.) |
| 06:49.40 | stoned | karlpinc, or or jex |
| 06:49.41 | stoned | jex |
| 06:49.44 | stoned | fuck!!!a'[psdf';jf |
| 06:49.46 | stoned | JED! |
| 06:49.57 | stoned | damn fucking keyboard infuriating me |
| 06:49.59 | stoned | goddamn. |
| 06:50.02 | infinity1 | karlpinc: wow. never heard of that one. |
| 06:50.14 | stoned | karlpinc, ok, yeh, so you ever heard/used jed? |
| 06:50.15 | karlpinc | stoned : mg is even smaller. I figure if I want more than that I use emacs. |
| 06:50.16 | stoned | or xjed |
| 06:50.18 | stoned | is reallynice |
| 06:50.23 | karlpinc | infinity1 : It's a typo. Sorry. |
| 06:50.26 | stoned | karlpinc, i;ll check it out |
| 06:50.28 | stoned | mg you say |
| 06:50.29 | stoned | !mg |
| 06:50.29 | dpkg | A simple packaging walkthrough can be found by (as root) "apt-get install maint-guide" and then (as user) www-browser /usr/share/doc/maint-guide/maint-guide.en.html/index.html" (or http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ online). Also ask me about <nmg>. 'Mg' is also the chemical symbol for magnesium, or may mean Madagascar. |
| 06:50.35 | stoned | doh |
| 06:51.40 | infinity1 | why does gnome term have a white background. shouldn't it be black? |
| 06:52.24 | karlpinc | infinity1 : Because it's annoying. (My taste runs to green on black, although amber on black has tested to be slightly better on the eyes.) |
| 06:53.00 | karlpinc | infinity1 : You can configure all that stuff, in any of them. |
| 06:54.09 | infinity1 | karlpinc: really? amber on back is the secondary default |
| 06:54.21 | infinity1 | yea. i'm playing with the settings while you type |
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| 06:55.03 | infinity1 | this compiz stuff is crazy |
| 06:55.14 | infinity1 | the windows are like ...bouncy |
| 06:55.19 | karlpinc | infinity1 : I recall hearing of some usability studies in the very early 80's. But I never read the material myself. |
| 06:55.33 | infinity1 | i haven't used linux as s desktop before. never liked it |
| 06:56.36 | infinity1 | this is fun |
| 06:56.46 | infinity1 | the mouse wheel switches between desktops |
| 06:56.52 | infinity1 | what other cool stuff can i do |
| 06:57.00 | stoned | karlpinc, white on black |
| 06:57.10 | newsense | hold cntrl+alt+backspace and move mouse |
| 06:57.10 | stoned | green is a bit too.... |
| 06:57.14 | stoned | Matrixy? |
| 06:57.17 | stoned | I guess |
| 06:57.19 | karlpinc | stoned : Too high contrast. |
| 06:57.24 | infinity1 | newsense: i already know that one |
| 06:57.25 | infinity1 | it kills X |
| 06:57.27 | newsense | err cntrl+alt+left click |
| 06:57.33 | newsense | typo |
| 06:57.34 | stoned | karlpinc, I actually use #666 on #000 |
| 06:57.35 | newsense | sorry |
| 06:57.36 | stoned | ;) |
| 06:57.37 | stoned | Hail Satan! |
| 06:57.54 | stoned | its not that bad on the eyes |
| 06:57.59 | stoned | I can't stand green terminals |
| 06:58.04 | newsense | if ya got desktop cube enabled that is |
| 06:58.06 | stoned | remind me of my oldschool days in 1994 |
| 06:58.12 | stoned | my first few consoles |
| 06:58.16 | infinity1 | ctrl alt left click doesn't do anything |
| 06:58.20 | stoned | er. 1984 |
| 06:58.28 | newsense | gotta enable desktop cube than |
| 06:58.34 | infinity1 | newsense: whats it suppose to do |
| 06:58.37 | infinity1 | how do i enable |
| 06:58.49 | newsense | i played with compiz for a while it was cool for a day or 2 |
| 06:59.03 | newsense | makes the desktop a cube that you can rotate |
| 06:59.23 | newsense | check youtube videos theres hundreds of compiz videos there |
| 06:59.25 | infinity1 | ohh... |
| 06:59.32 | infinity1 | maybe i don't have compiz enabled then |
| 06:59.43 | infinity1 | i'm not sure if my video card works wit hit |
| 06:59.46 | newsense | if ya got wobbly effect ya do |
| 06:59.59 | infinity1 | ya. i got the wobbly bouncy windows when you drag them |
| 07:00.23 | newsense | yeah thats compiz |
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| 07:00.52 | infinity1 | newsense: in the compiz settings cube isn't enabled |
| 07:01.31 | newsense | its probobly the most well known of the compiz features besides wobbly windows |
| 07:01.57 | infinity1 | how do you roll-up a window |
| 07:02.23 | newsense | roll up ? |
| 07:02.30 | infinity1 | like to the title bar |
| 07:02.44 | newsense | double click it |
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| 07:04.36 | infinity1 | that maximizes on mine |
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| 07:07.05 | infinity1 | i got ctrl-alt + left click working |
| 07:07.12 | infinity1 | its cool but ...uhh ..is there a point? |
| 07:08.21 | Bigshot_ | how can i get kernel headers or kernel source for 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 ? i want to install the webcam driver from here www.palmix.org/r5u870-en.html |
| 07:09.13 | infinity1 | apt-cache search headers |
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| 07:10.40 | Bigshot_ | it filled up the whole screen what should i do? where's the directory for it? |
| 07:11.06 | infinity1 | lol |
| 07:11.29 | Bigshot_ | sorry bud i am kinda new :-D |
| 07:11.36 | infinity1 | there is annd easy command. something like: apt-get install kernel-headers-`uname -a` |
| 07:11.40 | infinity1 | yea. no kidding |
| 07:11.51 | infinity1 | not sure the exact syntax. google it |
| 07:14.31 | infinity1 | watter effects. okay. these programmers were obviously bored |
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| 07:20.31 | Bigshot_ | infinity1, once i install driver from here how can i remove it if i want to? www.palmix.org/r5u870-en.html |
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| 07:22.03 | infinity1 | if you use the deb you should be able to remove it |
| 07:22.15 | infinity1 | if not, 'make uninstall' might remove it |
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| 07:22.34 | infinity1 | but really, its not that big a deal if you don't remove a driver |
| 07:23.02 | infinity1 | if you don't remove it, i don't see why it would cause a problem and its not going to f-up your system like windows |
| 07:25.04 | Bigshot_ | where can i search for r5u870 package? |
| 07:25.06 | Bigshot_ | debain |
| 07:25.20 | Bigshot_ | ie. .deb tar.gz file |
| 07:25.35 | Bigshot_ | is there an archive? |
| 07:26.05 | ptman | Bigshot_: apt-get.org |
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| 07:27.17 | Bigshot_ | any other site? |
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| 07:27.27 | ptman | google |
| 07:29.16 | Bigshot_ | i found one but it is for 2.6.24-19 generic will it work with etchnhalf kernel? |
| 07:34.22 | nkuttler | does anybody in here use arcor.de dsl? i'm experiencing some weird port 80 blocking.. |
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| 07:40.53 | opensrcguru | guys, i have an etch box that is hanging on boot...the last thing printed to the console is "starting the hotplug events dispatcher: udev" |
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| 07:43.17 | opensrcguru | any thoughts? |
| 07:43.49 | aadil | hi |
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| 07:44.31 | aadil | opensrcguru, on what? |
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| 07:46.01 | Bigshot_ | guys i am trying to install skype etchnhalf but i am getting the message libqt4-gui (core) >= 4.2.1 what should i do with this dependency problem? |
| 07:47.12 | superjet_busy | Bigshot_: use static deb |
| 07:47.23 | Bigshot_ | how to do that? |
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| 07:47.39 | Bigshot_ | :| |
| 07:47.42 | superjet_busy | !skype |
| 07:47.42 | dpkg | skype is a proprietary cross-platform VoIP program and is an evil obfuscated black-box that could be communicating *absolutely* any of your data with third parties. It is not in Debian because we are not allowed to distribute it. Packages are available from http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/ or use the sources.list line "deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free" |
| 07:48.31 | Bigshot_ | how about kopete than? |
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| 07:48.34 | Bigshot_ | !kopete |
| 07:48.35 | dpkg | well, kopete is KDE's flexible and extendable multiple protocol instant messaging system designed as a plugin-based system. All protocols are plugins and allow modular installation and configuration. http://kopete.kde.org, or #kopete @ irc.freenode.net |
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| 07:49.35 | Bigshot_ | how to use "static" deb? |
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| 07:52.25 | superjet_busy | Bigshot_: just have a look at the site, it's only static binary |
| 07:53.26 | superjet_busy | or install the deb after upgrade your etch |
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| 07:53.49 | Bigshot_ | i just installed etchnhalf |
| 07:53.54 | Bigshot_ | via network |
| 07:54.36 | Bigshot_ | i've got the deb file and i am trying to install it using dpkg -i skype.deb |
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| 07:54.57 | dusthillguy | Hello! |
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| 07:55.34 | dusthillguy | Do you run Etch, or Lenny, or Sid? |
| 07:55.40 | Guerin | dusthillguy: yes. |
| 07:55.47 | superjet_busy | Bigshot_: apt-get install -f then to install depended qt libs |
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| 07:56.44 | opensrcguru | any thoughts as to what may be causing udev to hang?> |
| 07:57.09 | opensrcguru | sorry. i'm in the data center with two borked AC units and the repair man is bugging me.... |
| 07:57.40 | opensrcguru | udev from the debian installer fires up if i use "rescue" mode. |
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| 07:57.59 | opensrcguru | strace doesn't point anything "obvious" out. |
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| 08:00.06 | superjet_busy | opensrcguru: have you updated your kenel recently? |
| 08:00.16 | opensrcguru | yes. |
| 08:00.34 | opensrcguru | i tried booting the previous kernel with no success. |
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| 08:03.04 | superjet_busy | you lost your initrd or somethings ,like enable libata to change hda? into sda? |
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| 08:04.02 | opensrcguru | ok. |
| 08:04.33 | superjet_busy | !initrd |
| 08:04.33 | dpkg | [initrd] initial root disk. initial RAM disk, or god's way of punishing you for using a prebuilt kernel image, or ...And you WILL HAVE TO INCLUDE AN INITRD STATEMENT IN YOUR BOOTLOADER (hint, hint). Typically if you can't find your root filesystem, this is your problem. or a great system for those who understand modulesneed/want root in lvm and/or md raid. http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1476230, or make-kpkg --initrd |
| 08:04.48 | opensrcguru | i'll try a dpkg-reconfigure of the kernel pkg's |
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| 08:14.27 | yacyac | hows debian on laptops ? |
| 08:15.41 | nullboy | yacyac: nice |
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| 08:17.54 | yacyac | nullboy.... i have an intel core 2 duo |
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| 08:18.21 | nullboy | yacyac: it will rockz0r your sockz0rz right offz0rz |
| 08:18.34 | yacyac | hahahahaha |
| 08:18.48 | yacyac | sorry i made my statement incomplete |
| 08:18.50 | nullboy | lol |
| 08:19.07 | yacyac | so its 3 dvd big |
| 08:19.24 | yacyac | and all 3 dvds required while installation ? |
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| 08:20.07 | liable | no |
| 08:20.14 | liable | !netinst |
| 08:20.15 | dpkg | i guess netinst is a small CD or set of floppy images which installs Debian using an Internet connection, but is not required for a base install to complete, see http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ If you use a dialup connection, ask me about <dialup install>. <netboot miniiso>, or ask me about <check iso image> |
| 08:20.43 | agike | Hi, trying `dhcpd start` I get "No subnet declaration for start (0.0.0.0). |
| 08:20.45 | agike | Please write a subnet declaration in your dhcpd.conf file for the |
| 08:20.45 | epsilon | if your notebook is newer than a year, consider using lenny |
| 08:20.47 | agike | network segment to which interface start is attached. |
| 08:21.02 | agike | Any ointers for a fix ? |
| 08:21.03 | yacyac | epsilon i just bought it yesterday |
| 08:21.20 | epsilon | I mean the hardware inside the notebook |
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| 08:22.01 | Doctor-Steve | there doesnt seem to be a package for linux-headers for a 2.6.27-8 kernel... |
| 08:22.10 | agike | AArgh ... |
| 08:22.11 | Doctor-Steve | where can i get headers or what can i use instead? |
| 08:22.38 | yacyac | i use pppoe connection with a service name tag in windows |
| 08:22.39 | agike | I had it fixed but can` remember how I did it. |
| 08:22.42 | Doctor-Steve | agike, what? |
| 08:22.50 | agike | No subnet declaration for start (0.0.0.0). |
| 08:22.52 | agike | Please write a subnet declaration in your dhcpd.conf file for the |
| 08:22.54 | agike | network segment to which interface start is attached. |
| 08:23.04 | liable | Doctor-Steve: debian doesnt have a 27 package, therefore, no headers |
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| 08:23.47 | Doctor-Steve | liable, can i use the headers from 2.6.27-8 |
| 08:23.49 | Doctor-Steve | yea? |
| 08:23.51 | Doctor-Steve | sorry... |
| 08:23.55 | Doctor-Steve | 2.6.26-1 |
| 08:24.04 | liable | for a 27 kernel? no |
| 08:24.06 | agike | RTFM ! |
| 08:24.14 | Doctor-Steve | fleck! |
| 08:24.20 | Doctor-Steve | rebuliding kernel time :P |
| 08:24.22 | liable | Doctor-Steve: where did you get that kernel? |
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| 08:24.41 | agike | man debian |
| 08:24.53 | liable | make-kpkg can build a headers package for you |
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| 08:25.15 | tgillespie | hi all, is there a debian equivalent of gentoo's packages.provided? |
| 08:25.16 | Doctor-Steve | liable, kernel.org |
| 08:25.31 | liable | agike: if you have nothing worthwhile to contribute, best to not say anything |
| 08:25.45 | liable | Doctor-Steve: if you built the kernel, then you have headers already.. |
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| 08:26.15 | Bigshot_ | my laptops function keys are not working -- i am using etchnhalf what should i do? |
| 08:26.23 | agike | I`m just frustrated |
| 08:26.24 | Bigshot_ | brightness |
| 08:26.28 | Doctor-Steve | liable.... dam it! |
| 08:26.34 | Doctor-Steve | liable.... i just deleted everything lol |
| 08:26.43 | agike | Heh .. |
| 08:26.50 | liable | Doctor-Steve: oops :P |
| 08:27.27 | liable | Bigshot_: daemon.log is where acpid logs. see if it says anything on the keypresses |
| 08:27.35 | agike | I`d better get back to hacking dhcpd.conf, it`s safer .. |
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| 08:28.34 | Bigshot_ | where is daemon.log? |
| 08:28.35 | Bigshot_ | /var/log? |
| 08:28.48 | liable | Doctor-Steve: see man make-kpkg look for --headers |
| 08:28.52 | liable | Bigshot_: yep |
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| 08:30.03 | Doctor-Steve | liable, dw lol |
| 08:30.12 | liable | dw? |
| 08:30.13 | Doctor-Steve | liable, im rebuilding a 2.6.26.1 |
| 08:30.16 | Doctor-Steve | dont worry |
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| 08:31.05 | Bigshot_ | nothing happens liable |
| 08:31.44 | liable | Bigshot_: oh well. try looking at linux-laptops.net and see if someone has a writeup for your model |
| 08:31.47 | liable | !laptop |
| 08:31.48 | dpkg | All there is worth knowing about linux and laptops can be found at http://www.linux-laptop.net/ and http://tuxmobil.org/ Also ask me about <acpi> and <suspend>, or see the debian-laptop mailing list at http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/ For Thinkpads, ask me about <thinkpad>. See also <netbook>, <laptop mode>. |
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| 08:32.36 | ma3x | how do i add debian-multimedia key? |
| 08:32.37 | ma3x | or other keys? |
| 08:32.51 | liable | its explained on the home page for the site |
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| 08:33.08 | mhymn_ | ma3x: apt-key ? |
| 08:33.47 | ma3x | apt-key add key? |
| 08:33.54 | ma3x | or gpg ? |
| 08:34.44 | ma3x | is that only for apt? |
| 08:34.47 | ma3x | or for system keys as well |
| 08:34.50 | liable | its on the home page for debian-multimedia |
| 08:35.35 | ma3x | but how can i install it manually? |
| 08:35.39 | ma3x | what's the command? |
| 08:35.51 | liable | read the man page |
| 08:35.58 | ma3x | of what?! |
| 08:36.00 | ma3x | apt-key? |
| 08:36.00 | liable | you have been using debian ;long enough |
| 08:36.22 | liable | why not actually just look? |
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| 08:37.45 | ma3x | i asked you what the command is |
| 08:37.50 | ma3x | how can you look if you don't know what to look |
| 08:37.54 | ma3x | gpg or apt-key or what |
| 08:38.46 | cdi7 | bonjour |
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| 08:40.18 | mhymn_ | ma3x: 'man apt-key' |
| 08:40.39 | mhymn_ | !tell ma3x about grounding |
| 08:40.45 | ma3x | but isn't apt-key only for the apt management system? |
| 08:40.55 | ma3x | i need to export key for other programs, not apt |
| 08:41.04 | FILLVAIO2 | Hello again. Guys, all night i finding the way to downgrade libc6 unstable to stable? is there any guaranted way that don't crash my server? |
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| 08:41.27 | liable | FILLVAIO2: yes, reinstall the server |
| 08:42.22 | FILLVAIO2 | another way without reinstall? |
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| 08:43.26 | liable | FILLVAIO2: not really. libc6 is very important and very difficult to downgrade, |
| 08:44.03 | FILLVAIO2 | what do you think about -> http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Debian/downgrade.html |
| 08:44.43 | Guerin | I think it's a bad idea to ask us to support it. |
| 08:44.51 | FILLVAIO2 | why? |
| 08:44.52 | Guerin | (though it can work in some lucky circumstances) |
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| 08:45.11 | Guerin | FILLVAIO2: because we don't support third-parties' hare-brained schemes. |
| 08:46.09 | FILLVAIO2 | it was accident to install unstable libc6 |
| 08:46.11 | FILLVAIO2 | :( |
| 08:46.26 | FILLVAIO2 | i have working machine with many sited |
| 08:46.29 | FILLVAIO2 | sites |
| 08:47.06 | Supaplex | uhhhhwoops |
| 08:47.29 | FILLVAIO2 | it was when i have trying to recompile apache2 for change docroot of suexec |
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| 08:48.24 | Supaplex | what's wrong with /var/www ? :) |
| 08:49.46 | FILLVAIO2 | <Supaplex> it was old story, than my mistake :( |
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| 08:53.59 | rmrfchik | I have telnet proxy (i.e., I can "telnet proxy" then "open host port"). Can I make xchat/irssi to connect to irc with it? |
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| 08:55.06 | superjet_busy | irssi seems can only use http proxy, sucks with socks |
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| 08:55.41 | opensrcguru | allright, the udev hanging sill persists after rebuilding the initrd for my xen kernel as well as my generic kernel. |
| 08:56.46 | Bigshot_ | i just installed "kde-guidance-powermanager" in gnome how do i start it? |
| 08:56.51 | Bigshot_ | debian etch |
| 08:56.55 | Bigshot_ | etchnhalf |
| 08:57.13 | Supaplex | use dpkg -L kde-guidance-powermanager | grep bin/ for clues |
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| 08:58.29 | Bigshot_ | I amgetting this >> robo@BigShot:~$ guidance-power-manager |
| 08:58.29 | Bigshot_ | kp2285@BigShot:~$ Very strange! got a DCOPReplyDelayed opcode, but we were not waiting for a reply! |
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| 08:59.51 | superbird | you called your box bigshot? |
| 08:59.52 | superbird | god. |
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| 09:01.09 | Supaplex | Bigshot_: apt-cache policy guidance-power-manager upload to http://rafb.net/paste |
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| 09:02.11 | Bigshot_ | kp2285@BigShot:~$ apt-cache policy guidance-power-manager |
| 09:02.11 | Bigshot_ | W: Unable to locate package guidance-power-manager |
| 09:03.06 | Supaplex | gah. I mean kde-guidance-powermanager |
| 09:04.07 | Bigshot_ | http://rafb.net/p/1KHsAl84.html |
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| 09:06.36 | Supaplex | humm. I don't know |
| 09:07.04 | Bigshot_ | :( |
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| 09:08.04 | Bigshot_ | what should i type to install kde? |
| 09:08.12 | Bigshot_ | apt-get install kde? |
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| 09:11.14 | Bigshot_ | what kde version will it install? |
| 09:11.23 | Bigshot_ | etchnhalf |
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| 09:14.28 | Supaplex | according to your apt-cache policy, http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=kde-guidance says etch. |
| 09:15.38 | Bigshot_ | so ... |
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| 09:16.14 | Bigshot_ | is there anyway to lower the brightness on this laptop sony fz240e |
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| 09:20.23 | Bigshot_ | why is debian lagging behind in using the "New" kernels? |
| 09:20.49 | Supaplex | because bugs suck |
| 09:20.58 | Supaplex | new code = new bugs |
| 09:21.07 | superbird | bigshot, debian lags behind with everything |
| 09:21.09 | superbird | not just the kernel. |
| 09:21.19 | Supaplex | the stable code is older, but has bug fixes only, so it's very stable |
| 09:21.27 | superbird | it's what prevents it from being the best distro in the world. |
| 09:21.48 | Supaplex | testing is still more stable than plenty of other distros |
| 09:23.04 | superbird | i might jump ship to fedora. they release a new ver every 6 months |
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| 09:23.59 | Bigshot_ | k |
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| 09:24.48 | Supaplex | superbird: so testing is still too old? if you keep your eyes peeled, and you know what you're doing, sid is okay too. but only if :) |
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| 09:25.39 | superbird | on a home machine i'd run sid |
| 09:25.47 | Supaplex | personally I don't care what anyone uses. best is a matter of opinion, and I'm plenty happy here. |
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| 09:26.39 | superbird | i've never used fedora |
| 09:27.00 | superbird | i used redhat until about about...version 6.2 i believe. then i jumped ship to debian and haven't looked back. |
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| 09:27.39 | Supaplex | I hear package kit is cool. It's taken them about a decade to match the upgrade stability/seamlessness of what debian had then. |
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| 09:28.53 | Peanut | Hi - just swapped a motherboard in a server running Etch. Now the new networking interfaces are named eth2/eth3 instead of eth0/eth1 - what could I do to correct that? |
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| 09:29.09 | Supaplex | !z25 |
| 09:29.10 | dpkg | As of version 0.090, udev has the ability to statically rename ethernet cards based on MAC address. The addresses are configured in /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules . If you want the mappings to change, edit that file. See <forcedeth mac>. As of version 0.124-1 the file is called /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules . |
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| 09:30.34 | Assid | is there any flaws in using a 64bit lenny ? over 32bit.. even though at the moment its only 2GB ram ? |
| 09:30.50 | Peanut | Ah.. thanks, Supaplex, that should do the trick - can I change that without a reboot? |
| 09:31.08 | aleix | I'm using 64bit lenny on production servers without problems... |
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| 09:31.51 | Supaplex | Peanut: yeah. reload the network modules I think |
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| 09:32.27 | Peanut | Ok.. going to do that while logged in, wish me luck ;-) |
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| 09:36.26 | Assid | aleix: ok.. hopefull asterisk and zaptel works fine |
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| 09:41.47 | Gokee2 | Hello all, I run a production server with Debian stable installed, I am figuring out how to make backups work. I want the backups to reside on my desktop computer which runs ubuntu (intrepid). I am thinking about using rdiff-backup but it wants the same version of itself on both sides of the link. Any thoughts on if I should try and "upgrade" the servers backage or try and get a old version installed into ubuntu? |
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| 09:44.11 | nkuttler | Gokee2: backuppc is nice |
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| 09:45.21 | Supaplex | Gokee2: have you seen dirvish? |
| 09:45.53 | Supaplex | my own needs differ from dirvish, but I do use rsync snapshots. |
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| 09:46.25 | Gokee2 | nkuttler, Hmm that does not make incremental backups though? |
| 09:46.30 | jelly | dirvish isn't that good for remote backups |
| 09:47.09 | Gokee2 | Supaplex, Hmm I guess I could do that, I was hoping to go with rdiffbackup to save a little space |
| 09:47.10 | Supaplex | rsync + ssh -C + --link-dest ftw |
| 09:47.26 | jelly | Gokee2: rsnapshot is a relatively simple rsync wrapper |
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| 09:48.12 | Gokee2 | jelly, Ya, I looked over that, I guess I will have to use a system like that |
| 09:48.58 | Gokee2 | It just seems to nice to only keep whats changed in a file from verion to version instead of a whole new file every time it changes |
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| 09:51.12 | xingu | jelly: just fmi have you ever used unison in anger? |
| 09:51.18 | Gokee2 | Any suggestions on what all to backup? I was thinking everything on root exeapt lib sys usr tmp proc bin and dev |
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| 09:51.52 | jelly | xingu: I took a look at it |
| 09:52.17 | xingu | jelly: thoughts? I realise this is opinion polling, that's what I'm after. :) |
| 09:52.24 | jelly | Gokee2: how much backup space do you have? |
| 09:52.50 | Gokee2 | jelly, A lot |
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| 09:53.24 | jelly | Gokee2: so why do you worry about file deltas, skipping /usr, /lib, and such? |
| 09:53.32 | flourish | hello. help! Ask for advices about slapd |
| 09:53.49 | Gokee2 | jelly, Because I figured they were pretty much useless to backup? |
| 09:53.52 | jelly | xingu: no opinion |
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| 09:54.27 | flourish | I need to setup a openldap server and restore some ldif fiel |
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| 09:54.35 | flourish | sorry, files |
| 09:54.39 | jelly | xingu: basically the stuff I edit from multiple machines is in a svn repo anyway |
| 09:54.53 | Gokee2 | After all to restore I was thinking it would be best to install everything then copy over /home /root /var and all the rest? |
| 09:54.59 | jelly | Gokee2: why would they be useless to backup? |
| 09:55.41 | jelly | Gokee2: in case of a disaster, I find it simpler to restore the whole system from backup |
| 09:56.10 | Gokee2 | jelly, Hmm, I see |
| 09:56.28 | xingu | jelly: fair do |
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| 09:57.28 | Gokee2 | jelly, So I guess I should just backup everything but /tmp? Or should I leave out /dev too? |
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| 09:57.56 | adb | !backup |
| 09:57.57 | dpkg | rumour has it, backup is something you should do *ALWAYS*... if you value your sh*t even in the least. Otherwise eons of buildup and data can go BYE BYE FOREVER one day if you do not backup, either by HD malfunction or by intentional evil by crackers or by mischivious glak elves that invade your system. Or even by large magnets that get out of hand. Pay the dollars for a tape system or CDR and use <tar> (plus optionally bzip2 at lowest compression), or ... |
| 09:58.52 | jelly | Gokee2: I general, leave out any ram-based or virtual filesystems, and stuff you know you won't need (contents of /tmp, /var/cache/apt/archives, and similar) |
| 09:58.59 | Peanut | Supaplex: Ok, I managed to rename the interfaces without rebooting and without having to go back to the server room *grin* thanks again. |
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| 09:59.38 | Gokee2 | jelly, Ok, thanks |
| 10:01.36 | flourish | I need to setup a slapd server in one day. Please give me some advices or some URI of howtos. I find some but they seems not very clearly. |
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| 10:02.29 | Sargun | I love debian |
| 10:02.30 | jelly | flourish: have you tried #ldap or #openldap? |
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| 10:02.40 | Sargun | I hate centos |
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| 10:02.45 | flourish | jelly: I tried #slapd |
| 10:03.09 | flourish | jelly: thanks. I will ask in #openldap |
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| 10:09.13 | gui____ | hi |
| 10:09.26 | gui____ | is there a way to examine the last 1000 lines of a log file about 12Go of data :-( |
| 10:09.46 | gui____ | cat file|tac |head -1000 is not sufficient |
| 10:09.51 | gui____ | less isn't working well |
| 10:09.58 | gui____ | do u have any good idea please? |
| 10:10.33 | mhymn_ | tail? |
| 10:10.45 | Peanut | Small bit of C with an lseek? Perl perhaps? |
| 10:11.55 | xingu | lseek's going to struggle with the "lines" unit somewhat |
| 10:12.06 | frozty_sa | gui____: tail -n 1000 filename |
| 10:13.53 | adb | gui____: dmesg |tail -1000 ? |
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| 10:13.57 | gui____ | and is there a way to split it and keep the last 3Go for example ? |
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| 10:14.09 | gui____ | adb it's an apache2 log file |
| 10:14.12 | gui____ | (error) |
| 10:14.25 | xingu | gui____: split(1) |
| 10:14.28 | gui____ | ok |
| 10:14.34 | gui____ | thx u |
| 10:14.34 | gui____ | ;) |
| 10:15.51 | xingu | correctest answer would be seek to end file then add 1000 eol terminate records into a buffer and finally print it; be interesting to know if "tail" is that clever |
| 10:16.52 | frozty_sa | xingu: most correct, not correctest |
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| 10:17.24 | xingu | the linguistic abuse was entirely deliberate |
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| 10:20.13 | Sling | also, i dont think apache will like handling 12GB logfiles |
| 10:22.02 | gui____ | Sling, I don't think so :-( |
| 10:22.07 | nkuttler | Gokee2: of course it does |
| 10:22.17 | xingu | yep, tail is that clever. |
| 10:22.28 | stoned | dude man |
| 10:22.33 | stoned | fuse is so slow |
| 10:22.36 | stoned | damn |
| 10:22.56 | stoned | is there another way to do ssh mount (some sort of sshfs) without going through fuse? |
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| 10:23.43 | mchelen | no |
| 10:24.01 | frozty_sa | yes, there is |
| 10:24.05 | Gokee2 | nkuttler, What does? |
| 10:24.06 | frozty_sa | shfs also exists |
| 10:24.07 | mchelen | you can use nautilus to access the files, but then they are not mounted in the filesystem |
| 10:24.09 | xingu | stoned: what makes you think that it's fuse that's the limiting factor? |
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| 10:24.58 | stoned | because it always is |
| 10:25.11 | stoned | I'm using kde's fish:/ ssh thingy mount and its so much faster |
| 10:25.20 | frozty_sa | stoned: shfs |
| 10:25.25 | stoned | also, useftp, the curlftpfs is so much slower too |
| 10:25.27 | frozty_sa | the alternative you asked for |
| 10:25.38 | stoned | but ftp mount in kde is much faster than fuse's |
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| 10:25.43 | stoned | frozty_sa, ok |
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| 10:32.15 | stoned | hm |
| 10:32.19 | stoned | shfs is not in debian? |
| 10:32.28 | stoned | judd versions shfs-source |
| 10:32.29 | judd | stoned: shfs-source -- etch: 0.35-6.2 |
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| 10:32.37 | stoned | only in etch? |
| 10:32.38 | stoned | !! |
| 10:32.38 | dpkg | I'm not your csh prompt! |
| 10:33.22 | vaq | stoned go compile it yourself and stop complaining! |
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| 10:34.33 | liable | !info sshfs etch |
| 10:34.37 | dpkg | sshfs: (filesystem client based on SSH File Transfer Protocol), section utils, is optional. Version: 1.6-1+b2 (etch), Packaged size: 30 kB, Installed size: 76 kB |
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| 10:35.04 | suzukinder | hello |
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| 10:42.02 | xingu | stoned: have you tried setting the various cache_*_timeout's to something that matches your use-case, and have you played with no_readahead? |
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| 10:43.31 | jelly | (and with ciphers too if one or both endpoints are really old machine) |
| 10:44.05 | xingu | hands jelly a null cipher |
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| 10:44.30 | bolt-work | downloads it to a non-networked, firewalled computer |
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| 10:44.55 | bolt-work | ..of atlantian design |
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| 10:45.35 | xingu | jelly: http://www.psc.edu/networking/projects/hpn-ssh/ <-- random link for the day |
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| 10:46.36 | stoned | vaq, blow me. |
| 10:46.46 | stoned | jelly, I'll look into that, I hadn't considered such things |
| 10:46.49 | mynullvoid | hi all |
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| 10:46.53 | stoned | jelly, thanks for the advice |
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| 10:47.51 | mynullvoid | can I get my postfix to listen to more than one smtp? there is a stupid isp here block port 25 |
| 10:48.36 | mynullvoid | the isp block port 25 for anyone having dynamic IP. I need to have another port to take the mail |
| 10:49.35 | xingu | suggests tcp/587 |
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| 10:50.40 | cheater | hi |
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| 10:50.56 | cheater | i'm having a problem with knoppix, can i ask here? |
| 10:51.08 | cheater | i don't think it's knoppix-specific. |
| 10:51.43 | bolt-work | you need #knoppix |
| 10:52.03 | stoned | hey also |
| 10:52.12 | stoned | my open office is ugly |
| 10:52.21 | stoned | no matter which theme i set in gnome themes |
| 10:52.30 | stoned | it just looks static, huge fonts, ugly controls |
| 10:52.38 | stoned | how come I can't style openoffice.org? |
| 10:52.43 | stoned | I am using lenny |
| 10:52.55 | binrapt | Which package contains the MySQL C headers/libraries for developers and such? |
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| 10:55.00 | mynullvoid | stoned: you can change the font size |
| 10:55.04 | unop | binrapt, i should assume it is libmysqlclient15-dev |
| 10:55.16 | binrapt | Ah thanks |
| 10:55.16 | mynullvoid | stoned: check at the prefrences |
| 10:55.48 | cheater | #knoppix is dead |
| 10:56.30 | stoned | mynullvoid, its not that |
| 10:56.38 | stoned | the controls won't take the gtk theme |
| 10:56.43 | stoned | for some odd reason |
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| 10:58.37 | Bacta | Hi if I install Debian over Ubuntu (Ubuntu won't accept my DVD-drive for installation) will I be missing out on anything Ubuntu users get? |
| 10:58.44 | Bacta | Like nvidia drivers and compiz fusion? |
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| 11:04.22 | apelW | hi |
| 11:04.32 | apelW | how can I install webmin? |
| 11:04.41 | apelW | I don't find it on the packaging system |
| 11:04.48 | lostson | Bacta: no i dont think so |
| 11:05.04 | Doctor-Steve | just built a custom kernel, now trying to install vmware |
| 11:05.19 | apelW | to use webmin? |
| 11:05.19 | Doctor-Steve | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:05.56 | bolt-work | apelW: webmin is not in debian. find a howto on google |
| 11:05.59 | bolt-work | there are several |
| 11:06.04 | scorche | !webmin |
| 11:06.04 | dpkg | webmin is, like, a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/ Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/12/msg00790.html about the removal. Don't use their .debs, they are of extremely poor quality. |
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| 11:06.47 | bolt-work | Doctor-Steve: google it |
| 11:07.22 | bolt-work | Doctor-Steve: also check that your kernel version is actually supported by vmware |
| 11:07.28 | Bacta | would rather bang a Cambodian prostitute |
| 11:07.31 | bolt-work | Doctor-Steve: their drivers are kind of kernel specific |
| 11:07.54 | bolt-work | would rather film Bacta banging said prostitute |
| 11:07.57 | apelW | hmm |
| 11:08.02 | apelW | so compiling is better? |
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| 11:08.12 | bolt-work | apelW: what? |
| 11:08.14 | scorche | apelW: not using it is better... |
| 11:08.16 | apelW | webmin |
| 11:08.24 | bolt-work | apelW: what scorche said |
| 11:08.34 | apelW | what should I use instead |
| 11:08.35 | apelW | ? |
| 11:08.48 | scorche | a text editor and healthy reading |
| 11:08.53 | bolt-work | apelW: edit the darn config files like normal people :) |
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| 11:09.02 | Co2r | helo someone use deftlinux ? |
| 11:09.08 | Bacta | Any help with my Debian question? |
| 11:09.18 | Bacta | I'm having issues with Ubuntu, would Debian be as good for a beginner? |
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| 11:09.43 | bolt-work | Bacta: if you like to read, it's good. i started out with debian. works for me :) |
| 11:09.50 | bolt-work | Bacta: you need to read and you need time |
| 11:10.06 | Bacta | I know plenty about Linux, however that's when it's setup |
| 11:10.26 | bolt-work | Bacta: I find people who start out with "user friendly" bloated distros which do everything for you have a hard time letting go |
| 11:10.27 | Bacta | main question is whether I can get the nvidia drivers and compix fusion working on it |
| 11:10.38 | bolt-work | Bacta: with reading and time, you can :D |
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| 11:11.54 | Doctor-Steve | bolt-work, dam it.... this sux so much.... ive been trying to just get VMWare working with my Debian server and all the hardware but nothing seems to work... |
| 11:12.15 | bolt-work | Doctor-Steve: which kernel? do you know if the vmware drivers support it? |
| 11:12.15 | craigevil | Bacta: easiest way to install nvidia is with http://techpatterns.com/forums/about736.html cpmiz is in the normal repos and is pretty simple to get working |
| 11:12.22 | Bacta | I've gotten VMware on Debian fairly easily |
| 11:12.28 | Bacta | except it was with a very specific version |
| 11:12.28 | Doctor-Steve | bolt-work, im just looking that up now |
| 11:12.33 | Bacta | 6. something or rather |
| 11:12.41 | Doctor-Steve | bolt-work, kernel: 2.6.26-1 |
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| 11:12.46 | bolt-work | Bacta: you're not being very specific :P |
| 11:13.03 | Bacta | sorry :P |
| 11:13.14 | Bacta | My boss just put it in my home directory and goes "Install" |
| 11:13.14 | bolt-work | Doctor-Steve: you need to patch the vmware drivers for 2.6.26, afaik. use the patches for 2.6.25. they work fine on .26 |
| 11:13.20 | bolt-work | Doctor-Steve: google will find them for you |
| 11:13.23 | Doctor-Steve | kk :) |
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| 11:13.43 | Doctor-Steve | bolt-work does it matter if i use gcc 4.3 to compile it instead of gcc4.1 which the kernel is like it asks? |
| 11:13.51 | bolt-work | Doctor-Steve: nope |
| 11:14.13 | craigevil | Doctor-Steve: http://www.howtoforge.com/debian_etch_vmware_server_howto |
| 11:14.22 | Doctor-Steve | bolt-work, btw... i would hug you and kiss you, but well... wait this is the dirty filthy internet! *kiss* *hug* |
| 11:14.23 | Doctor-Steve | hehehe |
| 11:14.33 | Doctor-Steve | craigevil, tried... failed... |
| 11:15.06 | craigevil | havent messed with vmware in forever virtual-box just installs and works |
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| 11:16.25 | Doctor-Steve | bolt-work, would it help if i upgraded to vmware 2.0? |
| 11:16.30 | Doctor-Steve | bolt-work, vmware server 2.0 |
| 11:16.40 | Doctor-Steve | not 1.0.8 like im using now |
| 11:16.48 | craigevil | try http://wiki.debian.org/VMware you may need the any.any patch |
| 11:17.38 | bolt-work | Doctor-Steve: I tried that, but all my performance optimizations failed there, so I went back to 1.0.8. http://blog.dhampir.no/content/performance-tuning-vmware-server btw |
| 11:17.58 | Doctor-Steve | bolt-work, nice link |
| 11:18.13 | Doctor-Steve | bolt-work, book marked |
| 11:18.35 | bolt-work | Doctor-Steve: makes it never swap to the harddrive, amongst other things, given you have enough ram |
| 11:18.40 | bolt-work | Doctor-Steve: really helps performance |
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| 11:18.48 | Doctor-Steve | i got 2GB |
| 11:18.57 | Doctor-Steve | but im only using 4 256mb Images.... |
| 11:19.09 | Doctor-Steve | last q... will these patches work with server 1.0.8? http://lenrek.wordpress.com/2008/08/09/vmware-server-106-for-linux-kernel-2626x/ |
| 11:19.10 | bolt-work | Doctor-Steve: then you have enough :) |
| 11:19.51 | bolt-work | Doctor-Steve: probably. try patching and see if it returns any errors. if it doesn't, it probably works |
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| 11:20.06 | Doctor-Steve | bolt-work nice |
| 11:20.20 | bolt-work | Doctor-Steve: you don't need to reinstall. just patch the current driver sources vmware installed and try the config script again |
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| 11:23.48 | Doctor-Steve | bolt-work, alittle lost here.... ive just got 2 .patch files... |
| 11:23.53 | Doctor-Steve | where do i put em now? |
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| 11:23.59 | Gigantic | Where do you set the global locales? |
| 11:24.10 | Gigantic | my LC_ALL= is broken |
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| 11:24.19 | stoned | dpkg-reconfigure locales? |
| 11:24.25 | stoned | !locales |
| 11:24.25 | dpkg | Use `dpkg-reconfigure locales' to get it up and running. This generates locale definitions and also edits /etc/environment (in Sarge) or /etc/default/locale (etch or newer) which sets the $LANG environment variable at login time. |
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| 11:25.22 | Gigantic | aye danke |
| 11:26.04 | bolt-work | Doctor-Steve: http://blog.ac-graphic.net/post/VMWare-Workstation-and-Kernel-2625 |
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| 11:30.02 | Doctor-Steve | bolt-work.... |
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| 11:30.15 | Doctor-Steve | i get to the patch -p0 < vmnet.patch stage |
| 11:30.21 | Doctor-Steve | i run that and it says... |
| 11:30.44 | Doctor-Steve | cant find file to patch at input line 4.... |
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| 11:30.54 | Doctor-Steve | im guessing it cant find vmnet |
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| 11:31.09 | liable | so try other patch levels |
| 11:31.38 | bolt-work | Doctor-Steve: you need to extract the module sources and go to the correct directory and such. do everything like the link i gave you says and it should work |
| 11:31.54 | Doctor-Steve | ive extracted the modules |
| 11:31.57 | bolt-work | you could also try getting the specific patch files from the link. they should work on 1.0.8 |
| 11:32.05 | Doctor-Steve | kk :) |
| 11:32.07 | Doctor-Steve | that helps |
| 11:32.37 | bolt-work | so make sure you're in /usr/lib/vmware/modules/source and that you extracted the modules there |
| 11:34.36 | bolt-work | could of course do this as a regular user in your own home directory, but since you need to be root to install the kernel modules anyway, you might as well do it there like the reference suggests |
| 11:34.49 | Doctor-Steve | bolt-work, the patches for that one arent there :S |
| 11:34.57 | Doctor-Steve | bolt-work, ill google to find more |
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| 11:35.58 | bolt-work | Doctor-Steve: if you toss me your email address in a pm, i can send you the ones I used. waiting for a compile anyway :) |
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| 11:41.25 | bolt-work | Doctor-Steve: sent |
| 11:41.59 | Doctor-Steve | bolt-work, logged onto my email to check for your email and low and behold, theres my job offer i wasnt expecting till next week... |
| 11:42.08 | Doctor-Steve | bolt-work, awesome! |
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| 11:50.02 | Gigantic | !hug |
| 11:50.03 | dpkg | hugs gigantic |
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| 11:54.35 | julian_ | i'm running 2.6.27-1-686 from http://kernel-archive.buildserver.net/debian-kernel and am looking for linux-kbuild-2.6.27. anyone know where i might find it? doesn't seem to be in any bleeding edge kernel repo or even in experimental. |
| 11:54.48 | julian_ | needs to m-a a-i |
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| 11:58.05 | geaaru | hi, i updated my debian (with lenny) and now new package ntfs-3g needed "force" option for mount ntfs filesystem... i add "force" option to fstab file but where i must insert force option to permit auto mount of external hd with ntfs filesystems? |
| 11:58.09 | geaaru | thanks in advance |
| 11:58.28 | craigevil | julian_: linux-kbuild-2.6.27 - Kbuild infrastructure for Linux 2.6.27 shows up in sid when i do a apt-cache search |
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| 11:59.21 | craigevil | julian_: oh crap i was wrong its in the sidux repos though |
| 11:59.39 | julian_ | ahah.. that'll be it. |
| 11:59.56 | julian_ | maybe i'll just be a maniac and grab it from the sidux repo.. |
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| 12:00.29 | craigevil | sidux packages work just fine in debian, i run sidux on my dsktop but my eee is debian sid with a few sidux packages |
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| 12:01.45 | julian_ | craigevil: super news.. in fact sidux itself looks quite interesting.. |
| 12:01.45 | craigevil | julian_: if you want to use the sidux repos its in my sources.list > http://www.geocities.com/reverendsky/sourceslist.txt |
| 12:02.03 | julian_ | craigevil: cheers! |
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| 12:02.29 | julian_ | eyes sidux as a good bleeding-edge distro for a new laptop. |
| 12:02.29 | craigevil | what module are you wanting to build? |
| 12:02.33 | julian_ | kvm |
| 12:03.26 | craigevil | julian_: if you use a sidux kernel its already built for you |
| 12:06.32 | liable | craigevil: please dont suggest people mix distros in here, unless you are going to help them fix it when it breaks. |
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| 12:09.32 | mchelen | lol |
| 12:09.45 | mchelen | julian_, sidux is quite nice imho |
| 12:10.28 | liable | i am not saying dont use sidux, i am saying dont suggest using their repo on a debian system.. |
| 12:10.36 | Doctor-Steve | guys... |
| 12:11.12 | Doctor-Steve | bolt-work is the greatest! |
| 12:11.36 | craigevil | liable: while i can see your point, it wouldnt cause anything to break. Ive had sid and a sidux kernel on my eee since the day it arrrived in feb, but do see how this would be OT in #debian |
| 12:13.42 | liable | craigevil: lets rephrase that.. "while i can see your point, it hasn't caused anything to break with the limited packages I have installed on my eee." |
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| 12:14.28 | liable | +yet |
| 12:15.25 | craigevil | theres always a "yet" especially if your running sid |
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| 12:20.45 | bolt-work | !your |
| 12:20.45 | dpkg | [your] the possessive of you, and is not "you're", which means "you are" |
| 12:20.55 | bolt-work | that thing just gets on my nerves sometimes... |
| 12:21.11 | liable | loves to bait grammarnazis with your |
| 12:21.41 | liable | adds bolt-work to the list |
| 12:21.44 | bolt-work | pokes the grammar SS and points at liable |
| 12:23.17 | liable | bolt-work: btw, it was the correct use of your if you are referring to my comment.. |
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| 12:23.49 | bolt-work | i was referring to craigevil |
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| 12:25.21 | liable | his was the same as mine |
| 12:25.52 | bolt-work | liable: "your running sid" does not make sense |
| 12:26.07 | liable | oh, i was looking at another comment |
| 12:27.11 | liable | puts an asterisk next to bolt-works' name (double antagonising for him) |
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| 12:29.38 | bolt-work | liable: debain debain debain |
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| 12:29.48 | bolt-work | kernal |
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| 12:31.09 | liable | my favourite is abortman.. |
| 12:31.20 | bolt-work | heh |
| 12:31.37 | bolt-work | abortionman :) |
| 12:32.00 | liable | it rarely fails to deliver :) |
| 12:32.05 | bolt-work | equipped with twin coathangers |
| 12:32.12 | bolt-work | hm.. i'll stop now |
| 12:32.20 | liable | yes.. |
| 12:32.24 | liable | :P |
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| 12:33.09 | julian_ | bbl |
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| 12:33.39 | doudou | i have no sound, alsaconf does not see any soundcard, lspci 02:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc RV620 Audio device [Radeon HD 34xx Series] |
| 12:34.13 | liable | doudou: eek, how old is that thing? brand new? |
| 12:34.31 | liable | doudou: try compiling alsa-source |
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| 12:35.26 | doudou | no asus p5K 6 month |
| 12:35.44 | liable | doudou: what kernel you got? |
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| 12:36.01 | doudou | Linux debianUs 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 #1 SMP Tue Dec 2 07:56:33 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux |
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| 12:36.38 | liable | ok, you'll have to try compiling alsa then |
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| 12:37.19 | doudou | give me a link to such sources |
| 12:37.34 | liable | google.com |
| 12:38.16 | liable | why on earth do *I* have to google it to give you the link? |
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| 12:39.05 | doudou | google is too much advertising |
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| 12:39.16 | doudou | i try |
| 12:39.25 | liable | well, use whatever thing you use then.. |
| 12:39.41 | bolt-work | google is too much advertising?! |
| 12:39.44 | bolt-work | that's a first |
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| 12:41.15 | MasterCJ | My question isn't completely debian specific, but I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with NFS (specifically, accessing an NFS share on a linux box from windows)? |
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| 12:43.17 | bolt-work | google windows nfs client? |
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| 12:44.01 | MasterCJ | Yeah I have the client up and running (the MS version) but I can't seem to figure out the authentication... |
| 12:44.43 | MasterCJ | As in, NFS doesn't generally need authentication, does it? It's host based with its permissions and stuff as far as I understand from what I've read. |
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| 12:55.12 | GuySoft | hey, is there a way to configure certain hardrives in debian to automount with dev and exec options? |
| 12:55.42 | frozty_sa | use /etc/fstab |
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| 12:57.37 | GuySoft | frozty_sa, but its not a permanent drive.. i want it to be handled automaticly |
| 12:58.08 | frozty_sa | then say so in the first place |
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| 12:58.40 | frozty_sa | I've never tried making something load specific options for specific removable drives, sorry |
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| 13:06.56 | dante_2core | wsup |
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| 13:07.23 | SparFux | Hi all! How can I get a list of all available archs? |
| 13:08.06 | Julex | SparFux, why do you need that? |
| 13:08.41 | SparFux | I want to find the best arch possible. I think it is i386. But perhaps there is i586 or whatever. |
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| 13:09.54 | Julex | SparFux, if your computer can run debian i386, the only other arch it may be able to run is amd64. or well, ia64 too, but that's very rare. there is no arch named i586. |
| 13:10.10 | SparFux | Ok, thx. |
| 13:10.30 | dante_2core | SparFux, what kind of processor are you on? |
| 13:10.33 | Julex | SparFux, arches generally supply kernels for different kinds of processors, which are part of the arch. |
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| 13:10.46 | SparFux | dante: This is a Pentium II 233 MHz. |
| 13:10.52 | dante_2core | SparFux, i386 |
| 13:10.53 | dante_2core | g2g |
| 13:11.11 | Julex | SparFux, i386 arch, -686 kernel |
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| 13:12.15 | SparFux | Julex: Well, in theory, debian could even supply a whole binary distribution optimized for i586, as far as I know. |
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| 13:13.29 | SparFux | Anyway, there is no such arch i586, then i386 is the right one. I will take this one. I am only trying to set up a windows printer server for a friend. There is no parallel port on the laptop, and the printer to be used only has a parallel port :-) |
| 13:13.30 | Julex | SparFux, but it does not, as there's not really any advantage in doing so. debian does however provide optimized packages for core system packages, like the kernel and libc |
| 13:14.07 | SparFux | Julex: Ah, yes, the benefit is too low. Ok, I read that about k7 architecture, which even disappeared from kernel packages :-) |
| 13:14.21 | Julex | or well, it's a bigger disadvantage than it is an advantage |
| 13:15.02 | Julex | SparFux, I don't believe there has been a k7 arch. there has been k7 kernels for the i386 arch though. |
| 13:15.18 | SparFux | Julex: Yes, I mean k7 kernels. |
| 13:16.03 | Gigantic | *me puts an asterisk on his croissant |
| 13:16.19 | Julex | SparFux, there's a 686 kernel for the i386 arch that almost perfectly matches the processor in that old computer |
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| 13:16.39 | SparFux | Julex: Yes, I will install that one. |
| 13:16.40 | Gigantic | oh damn, I meant to say that like 5 hrs ago =\ |
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| 13:16.59 | Julex | Gigantic, apparently you said it aminute ago instead |
| 13:17.24 | Gigantic | forgot to hit ENTER |
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| 13:18.01 | SparFux | So, what I need is a bare debian install with all the packages needed for being a print server like cups and samba and it should boot up as fast as possible and windows should even automatically find it and be ready to print when connected via network. |
| 13:18.14 | adb | Gigantic: use > /me comment < |
| 13:18.35 | Gigantic | SparFux: minimal install then install cups and samba from it |
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| 13:19.09 | Gigantic | adb: command |
| 13:19.15 | Gigantic | ya |
| 13:19.23 | SparFux | Gigantic: Yes, I hope this will do it already :-) |
| 13:20.10 | SparFux | But isn't that a great idea? Having a really small system to be the print server and connect to it via network? And at the same time of course I will set it up to be usable to make backups to it, it will at the same time be a small file server via samba. |
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| 13:20.43 | adb | Gigantic: no , just "your comment " after /me |
| 13:20.58 | Gigantic | Well you can do whatever you want... |
| 13:21.10 | Gigantic | adb: ... |
| 13:21.19 | adb | ok |
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| 13:25.31 | SparFux | Is samba the samba4 package? |
| 13:26.19 | SparFux | Or do I need the samba packages, too? I think samba4 is just the most recent version, right? |
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| 13:40.28 | yacc_ | Is there documentation how to add alternatives? |
| 13:40.38 | johndoe | can you guys recommend me a good how-to for compiling a kernel |
| 13:40.41 | SySAdm | SparFux: samba4 hasn't been released yet, it's on alpha. but you can download and test it by your own. there is also an howto on samba wiki that describe you how to configure it |
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| 13:42.56 | utm_kid | how do i add firewall rule to my linux box with ipable |
| 13:43.49 | frozty_sa | utm_kid: google for the 'frozen tux iptables guide' |
| 13:44.02 | dutchfish | utm_kid, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/226 |
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| 13:44.19 | utm_kid | ok |
| 13:44.21 | utm_kid | thanks |
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| 13:47.02 | superjet_busy | how to suppress boot information, like so many lines of [0..]....? |
| 13:47.44 | dante_2core | append quiet to kernel commandline |
| 13:48.38 | superjet_busy | dante_2core: thanks! |
| 13:48.46 | dante_2core | np |
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| 13:49.16 | dante_2core | superjet_busy, I dunno whether that does what you want it to, but it makes the output more.. quiet :D |
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| 13:49.53 | enouf | superjet_busy: there are also specific printk boot options - but yep, quiet takes care of most default messages |
| 13:50.05 | superjet_busy | dante_2core: it's what i'm looking for :) |
| 13:50.35 | superjet_busy | enouf: printk seems just working after boot? |
| 13:50.49 | dutchfish | how can i install the moodle theme for debian login screen? |
| 13:50.53 | enouf | (i should say, available printk options vary with kernel versions) |
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| 13:51.36 | enouf | superjet_busy: it's supposed to start working once the kernel loads - hence; boot option/parameter ;-) |
| 13:52.14 | superjet_busy | enouf: yes, as printk is set syctl.conf :) |
| 13:52.39 | superjet_busy | s/syctl/sysctl |
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| 13:52.59 | enouf | dutchfish: hrm .. i seem to have found something in my file:///etc/default/kdm.d/10_desktop-base .. it likely depends on yuor {g,k,w,x}dm though |
| 13:53.06 | Charminthemoose | hihi entro |
| 13:53.08 | Charminthemoose | enouf een |
| 13:53.10 | Charminthemoose | even |
| 13:53.21 | enouf | m000SHI3! |
| 13:53.42 | dutchfish | enouf, kdm, strangely my first install was moodle theme by default, my 2nd gives me default kde 3.5 theme |
| 13:53.44 | enouf | superjet_busy: no, that's not the options i mean |
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| 13:54.21 | enouf | dutchfish: i think there might be something in /usr/share/{apps,app*} ? as well .. |
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| 13:54.33 | dutchfish | enouf, ah ci, ok, thx! |
| 13:54.45 | enouf | dutchfish: oh, can't you change that in kcontrol? |
| 13:54.57 | dutchfish | enouf, aparently not |
| 13:55.03 | superjet_busy | enouf: got it, let me check it later |
| 13:55.20 | dutchfish | enouf, the splash screen does work already |
| 13:55.25 | enouf | superjet_busy: you'd need a .26 or higher kernel, IIRC |
| 13:55.29 | dutchfish | enouf, not the login theme |
| 13:55.32 | enouf | dutchfish: ok |
| 13:56.24 | superjet_busy | enouf: yes, I'm using it |
| 13:57.19 | enouf | superjet_busy: /Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt |
| 13:57.20 | prxtien | has anyone used yubico tokens for network entry points |
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| 13:57.40 | superjet_busy | enouf: thanks a lot! |
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| 13:57.53 | prxtien | im thinking of using one as part of two-factor authentication for openvpn.. then entry to the network will be via ssh with yubico token auth again |
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| 14:02.18 | enouf | prxtien: try #networking? maybe ##linux too? |
| 14:02.19 | mchelen | prxtien, what is the advantage over using ssh alone? |
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| 14:02.43 | prxtien | thanks mate.. i will |
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| 14:03.05 | prxtien | mchelen, well its two-factor, so if someone had my password they could log in, with a token aswell they require the physical token and my password |
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| 14:03.22 | prxtien | it goes a reasonable way to helping cut down mitm attacks |
| 14:03.28 | kladizkov | is there any graphical ftp client other than gftp? |
| 14:03.30 | mchelen | prxtien, what about using an ssh cert as token? |
| 14:03.38 | bolt-work | E: Build-Depends dependency for basilisk2 cannot be satisfied because no available versions of package devscripts can satisfy version requirements |
| 14:03.45 | bolt-work | what can I do about that? |
| 14:03.47 | mchelen | kladizkov, sure, kftpgrabber, filezilla |
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| 14:04.12 | enouf | get the newer version of devscripts |
| 14:04.12 | prxtien | well yeah certificate is also a good way of doing it |
| 14:04.18 | prxtien | im just thinking with my anally secure mind |
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| 14:04.44 | enouf | or, you'll have to backport that pkg prior to building your backport of basilisk2 |
| 14:05.01 | bolt-work | oh. right. thanks |
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| 14:10.02 | HeLLborn | hi |
| 14:11.08 | mchelen | prxtien, using redundant systems can increase technical security, it can be more efficient to focus on a single implementation though |
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| 14:13.42 | enouf | hrm .. seems the printk.time option started appearing in .23 .. hrm .. </me scratches head> |
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| 14:15.25 | prxtien | mchelen yeah and thats something else i need to consider |
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| 14:19.04 | mchelen | prxtien, what about trying ssh with certs and then think about how to improve it? since you will use ssh at some point anyway |
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| 14:21.06 | prxtien | well yeah im more concerned about the openvpn side than ssh |
| 14:21.24 | prxtien | at the moment im using certificate + static password |
| 14:21.48 | prxtien | id feel more comfortable with certificate + otp for network entry |
| 14:21.55 | mchelen | yeah idk exactly how easy it is to get ssh and openvpn to play together |
| 14:21.56 | bolt-work | building basilisk2 from source complains about new or changed copyright notices. wtf? |
| 14:21.57 | dutchfish | enouf, got it working thx, kde-desktop-themes and its manager where missing on default install of kde |
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| 14:22.22 | mchelen | how about certificate with a passphrase? |
| 14:22.38 | prxtien | yeah thats what ive got configured at the moment |
| 14:22.53 | dutchfish | enouf, latest lenny net-install amd64 |
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| 14:23.40 | mchelen | prxtien, is it difficult to get the host keys installed on the client systems? |
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| 14:23.56 | johndoe | im following http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_debian1 when doing bzip2 /usr/src/patch-xxx.bz2 | patch -p1 --dry-run it fails saying "can't find file to patch at input line 5; perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option?" |
| 14:24.13 | prxtien | nah doesnt seem to be an issue, but im the only user with access |
| 14:24.16 | enouf | dutchfish: i see .. ok then |
| 14:24.22 | prxtien | i imagine it would be more of an issue if you had 10-15 users doing so |
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| 14:24.34 | bolt-work | apt-get -b source basilisk2 returns: "ERROR: The following new or changed copyright notices discovered: <lotsofstuff>" What is this? |
| 14:24.36 | dutchfish | enouf, yes, weird, but not too hard too solve |
| 14:24.42 | enouf | dutchfish: hrm, did you use tasksel? |
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| 14:24.48 | dutchfish | enouf, yep |
| 14:24.55 | Viper-7 | hey, im playing around with chroot on a virtual pc, ive got most of it sorted out, but i cant resolve hostnames from inside the jail |
| 14:24.58 | mchelen | prxtien, well as long as they connect once and have strict host key checking, it should be pretty easy & secure |
| 14:25.15 | prxtien | yeah it is definatly secure, just me being anal |
| 14:25.15 | Viper-7 | i have /etc/hosts, resolv.conf and nsswitch.conf inside the jail, but im probably missing something simple |
| 14:25.18 | Viper-7 | any ideas? |
| 14:25.24 | enouf | dutchfish: but .. now i forget, don't you need a specific installer if you want kde (the kde cd1) over gnome? |
| 14:25.31 | doudou | Hi, as my sound card diud not work, i was told here to install alsa source, i did aptitude install alsa-source , i tar xvf /usr/src/linux and alsa , went to configure alsa, it stop saying it cant find linux/version.h indeed this file does not exists anymore? |
| 14:25.39 | microtico1 | how to you parse a manual mount of an already encrypted partition? |
| 14:25.52 | dutchfish | enouf, thats one option, yes, but the default gives me slight more control on install |
| 14:25.54 | enouf | dutchfish: or dvd1? if you read the installation guide, it actually mentions something like that about it |
| 14:26.00 | bolt-work | microtico1: huh? |
| 14:26.27 | microtico1 | I have an encrypted reiserfs partition that I used in anothr system |
| 14:26.30 | enouf | dutchfish: otherwise, there are boot options such like tasks=kde-desktop,standard |
| 14:26.35 | dutchfish | enouf, ok, didnt read that one but this is no tmy first kde install |
| 14:26.37 | microtico1 | want to mount it again in the new one |
| 14:26.47 | dutchfish | enouf, yes |
| 14:26.49 | enouf | dutchfish: i see - ok |
| 14:27.06 | bolt-work | microtico1: mount it just like you did on your other system? make sure you have the encryption key |
| 14:27.13 | dutchfish | enouf, np |
| 14:27.36 | doudou | did somone stole the include/linux/version.h file? by virus? |
| 14:27.52 | enouf | doudou: i recall that issue cropping up .. a while back though - are your kernel headers installed? |
| 14:27.53 | microtico1 | bolt-work: I do but it doesn't detect it as encrypted and say it cant find any reiserfs in it |
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| 14:28.13 | dutchfish | enouf, i tend to start always with a base install, and check till all is fine, then install kdm, gdm whatever |
| 14:28.37 | bolt-work | microtico1: how is it encrypted? |
| 14:28.52 | microtico1 | aes |
| 14:28.57 | microtico1 | module loaded |
| 14:28.57 | doudou | enouf, i just unpack the linux ....bz2 and told configure kernel= where is kernel, i look in the tree but there is no version.h indeed |
| 14:29.02 | dutchfish | enouf, specially if i want a gnome-free system |
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| 14:29.15 | enouf | dutchfish: if you want, rummage through-> "/usr/share/tasksel/*.desc and /usr/local/share/tasksel/*.desc are used to define tasks." <== taken from man tasksel - then hunt down the depends, recommends, etc |
| 14:29.28 | doudou | enouf, i must install kernel headers |
| 14:29.39 | dutchfish | enouf, noted, not now, but i will do that |
| 14:29.50 | enouf | dutchfish: sure, np |
| 14:29.56 | bolt-work | microtico1: that's the algorithm used, but how did you actually encrypt it? |
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| 14:30.23 | enouf | doudou: well .. i don't want to hand hold walking you through compiling a kernel |
| 14:30.24 | DexterF | hi |
| 14:30.30 | microtico1 | bolt-work: looooooooooooooooong time ago, can't remember |
| 14:30.38 | bolt-work | microtico1: meaning, any hardware encryption involved? each file encrypted on its own? encfs, perhaps? |
| 14:30.41 | Viper-7 | nm sorted it :) |
| 14:30.46 | microtico1 | bolt-work: not a loop tho |
| 14:30.53 | bolt-work | microtico1: you kind of need to know and/or figure out these things to mount it again |
| 14:30.54 | dutchfish | enouf, 1 more q: if i install kvm source, on module install i info's about diversion, what does thta mean? |
| 14:31.08 | microtico1 | bolt-work: ack |
| 14:31.09 | doudou | enouf, you push me into water so i install alsa-sources yet |
| 14:31.18 | microtico1 | bolt-work: how do I do that? :P |
| 14:31.21 | enouf | doudou: i did what? |
| 14:31.28 | enouf | dutchfish: pm me please |
| 14:31.35 | microtico1 | bolt-work: will google it ty |
| 14:31.35 | doudou | enouf, yes one of yours |
| 14:31.48 | doudou | enouf, the ones that writes to me in yellow |
| 14:32.03 | bolt-work | enouf: i installed the backported devscripts like you said, but apt-get -b source basilisk2 returns: "ERROR: The following new or changed copyright notices discovered: <lotsofstuff>" What is this? |
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| 14:32.10 | DexterF | ssh/X question: Alice, Bob. I ssh from Alice into Bob. there I run "DISPLAY=:0 konqueror &" (or any other X app) so it's started locally on Bob's X. fine. then I issue "disown" and "exit". konq runs on Bob fine but I don't get my bash shell back on Alice. why? |
| 14:32.26 | enouf | bolt-work: no idea .. ugh |
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| 14:34.31 | bolt-work | enouf: here's the full thing, if that's any help... http://pastebin.com/f77e914ab |
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| 14:35.08 | doudou | enouf, alsa sources packages gave linux2.6.18.bz2 my headers i have installed are 2.6.24-etchnhalf, so i tell what to alsa configure ? |
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| 14:36.32 | doudou | should i download 2.6.24-etchnhalf kernel sources? or tell alsa configure something about headers? |
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| 14:36.38 | enouf | doudou: if you're using 2.6.24-etchnhalf, then you need that kernel's headers, along with build-essential and possibly some -dev pkgs |
| 14:37.45 | doudou | enouf, ok i did aptitude install 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 install |
| 14:37.54 | bolt-work | enouf: hm.. i just did what it said and moved debian_newhints to debian_hints and it's happy. strange conservative debian copyright issue, i guess |
| 14:37.59 | enouf | bolt-work: all i can say is; 117. To fix the situation please do the following: |
| 14:38.00 | enouf | :-P |
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| 14:38.16 | bolt-work | enouf: yeh. skipped 1, did 2. fixed |
| 14:38.22 | doudou | enouf, now i tell what to the alsa configure script about where is the kernel? |
| 14:38.53 | enouf | doudou: aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 14:38.56 | doudou | enouf, i told nothing |
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| 14:39.25 | doudou | enouf, headers are installed |
| 14:39.25 | microtico1 | lol |
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| 14:40.05 | enouf | doudou: why are you compiling alsa from sources? your sound card doesn't work? |
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| 14:40.44 | bolt-work | the soundcards on the asus p5 thingies sucks anyway. get an m-audio or something :) |
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| 14:41.24 | enouf | indeed |
| 14:41.30 | doudou | enouf, yes my sound card does not work, i tried configure without kernel= option did not complain |
| 14:41.51 | doudou | enouf, compile Error2 |
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| 14:42.30 | doudou | enouf, compile Error2 make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686' |
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| 14:42.42 | enouf | aha <doudou> i have no sound, alsaconf does not see any soundcard, lspci 02:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc RV620 Audio device [Radeon HD 34xx Series] |
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| 14:42.46 | doudou | scripts/Makefile.build:46: *** CFLAGS was changed in "/tmp/modules/alsa-driver/acore/Makefile". Fix it to use EXTRA_CFLAGS. Stop. |
| 14:43.07 | doudou | yes ahadoudou |
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| 14:43.59 | doudou | seems alsa sources found the kernel, some other problem |
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| 14:44.26 | enouf | doudou: pastebin the entire command you used and all output .. either we try and work through that - or you try a .26 etch-backports kernel, or you upgrade to Lenny |
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| 14:44.39 | simpl3t | hi, I'm using debian Lenny (testing), and it seems that free pascal compiler have disappeared from it. Does package often disappear from repository ? |
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| 14:45.00 | enouf | !why is free pascal compiler not in testing |
| 14:45.01 | dpkg | free pascal compiler is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=free pascal compiler |
| 14:45.11 | simpl3t | thank you very much |
| 14:45.17 | bolt-work | simpl3t: yes, packages have a tendency to disappear under the full moon |
| 14:45.22 | enouf | TWO THOUSAND .. heh |
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| 14:47.24 | doudou | enouf, http://pastebin.com/d2da070c8 |
| 14:48.01 | enouf | why oh why do people choose pastebin.com!!! |
| 14:48.16 | doudou | first day i use pastebin.com , i like those simple tools |
| 14:48.19 | enouf | doudou: pastebin it somewhere else, i can't read that crap |
| 14:48.34 | enouf | doudou: use pastebin.ca |
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| 14:49.49 | bolt-work | doudou: try installing the package "pastebinit". makes it even easier. just pipe output and get a pastebin link :) |
| 14:49.56 | doudou | http://pastebin.ca/1285939 |
| 14:50.20 | doudou | eh it is my first day |
| 14:50.53 | simpl3t | guys, I don't really understand why package are removed from testing. It can be because of a freeze, not old enough, etc... but, why there is not the previous version ? It was here a few days ago. |
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| 14:52.01 | doudou | bolt-work, i will keep this option in mind for tomorow |
| 14:52.46 | doudou | bolt-work, thanks i could not have imagiuned that this could be possible |
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| 14:53.59 | enouf | doudou: make clean; and try again |
| 14:55.05 | doudou | make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686' |
| 14:55.09 | doudou | scripts/Makefile.build:46: *** CFLAGS was changed in "/tmp/modules/alsa-driver/acore/Makefile". Fix it to use EXTRA_CFLAGS. Stop. |
| 14:55.10 | enouf | simpl3t: there's a gazillion possible reasons .. look at Flash for one such issue |
| 14:55.38 | doudou | did i discover a bug? |
| 14:55.41 | simpl3t | so, it's possible a package is in stable and sid, but not in testing then ? |
| 14:55.48 | enouf | doudou: pastebin the contents /tmp/modules/alsa-driver/acore/Makefile |
| 14:55.53 | enouf | you are a but |
| 14:55.56 | enouf | bug |
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| 14:56.05 | enouf | simpl3t: yes |
| 14:56.32 | simpl3t | enouf: ok I get it, thank you :) |
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| 14:59.20 | enouf | simpl3t: sometimes, a pkg developed too many bugs .. and the issues weren't worked out in time, sometimes it became unmaintained and someone else picked it up, and sometimes someone didn't meet a deadline to the lenny freeze, .. etc etc etc |
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| 14:59.30 | doudou | http://pastebin.ca/1285945 |
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| 15:00.07 | doudou | when you will find the bug, would you let me see it? |
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| 15:00.42 | doudou | i never saw bug so near |
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| 15:03.34 | doudou | it is not a bug in microsoft sense of course |
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| 15:05.13 | simpl3t | enouf: ok |
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| 15:06.19 | doudou | he went to canada to see my bug |
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| 15:09.06 | doudou | alsa said doudou: http://alsa.opensrc.org/AlsaBuild2.6 |
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| 15:09.25 | enouf | ahh crap |
| 15:09.26 | enouf | # If the save-* variables changed error out |
| 15:09.26 | enouf | ifeq ($(KBUILD_NOPEDANTIC),) |
| 15:09.27 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:12.08 | doudou | seems you chased and caught the bug in canada, can you exhibit it? |
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| 15:13.45 | doudou | is it frozen? |
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| 15:14.32 | DonAlex | Afternoon all |
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| 15:14.44 | DonAlex | This is a new one on me.. |
| 15:15.10 | drasko | how to untar bzip file into new dir? |
| 15:15.12 | DonAlex | using Debian, lenny and for some reason lo loopback interface has dissappeared |
| 15:15.52 | DonAlex | is that bizzarre or what? |
| 15:16.30 | DonAlex | ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1 gives SIOCSIFADDR: No such device |
| 15:16.51 | doudou | drasko cerate dit, go into it, tar xvf file.bz2 |
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| 15:17.12 | drasko | doudou, is there a command that does all that at once? |
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| 15:17.38 | doudou | drasko i suppose i only know one: tar xvf |
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| 15:20.28 | SparFux | How will the connection of a linux machine to a windows machine work with autoconfiguration? Which ip address whill they use and what names will they get? What debian packages do I need to have this automatically configured on connection? |
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| 15:20.48 | doudou | what is channel name of the cofee machine? is enouf there? |
| 15:21.11 | microtico1 | SparFux: ewwww, Samba |
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| 15:21.29 | SparFux | microticol: And does the ip matter the machine has? |
| 15:21.42 | microtico1 | #mygnuespresso ? |
| 15:21.53 | microtico1 | doudou: ^ |
| 15:22.03 | enouf | doudou: ever work through your issue yet? my apologies, i flooded, and got deservedly kicked |
| 15:22.23 | SparFux | microtico1: So I just install samba and configure the linux machine to an ip I like and sambe will do the rest? |
| 15:23.40 | microtico1 | SparFux: yes, install samba, it can be server or client then you cna setup shares, and a lot other stuff... not like turning on the tv tho |
| 15:24.08 | microtico1 | you configure printers... users, $home ... etc.. |
| 15:24.26 | microtico1 | and as for asigning ips, a dhcp server would do it |
| 15:24.26 | SparFux | microtico1: I have samba configured on this machine. I am not sure about how it would connect to the windows machine then. I mean, the machines will have to know their ips, dont they? |
| 15:24.34 | microtico1 | racoon is a nice dhcp server |
| 15:25.19 | microtico1 | SparFux: if you are connecting to a windows network you can just use something called s4mb |
| 15:25.26 | microtico1 | or something alike |
| 15:25.27 | doudou | no apologies, i am so happy to see you back, i thought you got frozen in canada snow |
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| 15:25.39 | microtico1 | it is an easy to use frontend |
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| 15:26.35 | SparFux | microtico1: Well, I want a computer to be a windows print server. On network connection it should detect the computer and list its printers. |
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| 15:26.51 | microtico1 | SparFux: smb4k |
| 15:27.18 | microtico1 | SparFux: yes, do setup |
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| 15:27.33 | SparFux | microtico1: So my own ip address doesn't matter? |
| 15:28.17 | microtico1 | no usually |
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| 15:29.57 | stephendublinire | hello everyone.. I have a server .. with 8gb of memory.. |
| 15:30.13 | stephendublinire | if a 32bit installed os of debian is on. .would I be able to see the full 8 or just 3.2? |
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| 15:32.24 | koollman | skidj: you might be able to use all the memory, but each process will be limited to 3GB |
| 15:32.30 | koollman | hmm. that was for stephendublinire |
| 15:32.56 | stew | stephendublinire: you can use all 8 if you use a 64 bit kernel (which would still run fine with a 32 bit debian, provided you have a 64 bit cpu) or you can use a "bigmem" 32 bit kernel |
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| 15:33.52 | doudou | disconnected from server |
| 15:33.58 | stephendublinire | stew.. thanks how do i check if my kernel is bigmem enabled? |
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| 15:34.07 | stephendublinire | CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G=y |
| 15:34.13 | stephendublinire | is whats showing in the kernel config |
| 15:34.39 | stephendublinire | 2.6.18-5-686 |
| 15:35.53 | stew | stephendublinire: that's not bigmem, bigmem would have CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G=y |
| 15:36.24 | stew | stephendublinire: that is an outdated kernel that is known to have security vulnerabilities, btw you should be upgrading to a current etch kernel |
| 15:36.41 | stephendublinire | # CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G is not set |
| 15:37.03 | stephendublinire | doh.. does it default to no i gather |
| 15:37.08 | stephendublinire | thanks.. im afraid to upgrade the box.. |
| 15:37.20 | stephendublinire | the only cvs for 50+ developeres |
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| 15:40.34 | stephendublinire | stew thanks for the help |
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| 15:42.43 | enouf | koollman: ever know if the 4/4 patch from ingo ever took off? |
| 15:43.12 | koollman | enouf: iirc, too complex, not enough incentive to get it inside the kernel |
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| 15:43.23 | koollman | (it's simpler to install a 64bits kernel) |
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| 15:43.40 | enouf | koollman: righto - just for reference; http://lwn.net/Articles/39283/ |
| 15:44.17 | koollman | actually ... I should push some 64 bits kernel on my servers ... |
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| 15:45.43 | enouf | heh, we (32bit weenies) get stuck with 5 separate VMSPLIT_ choices only :-P |
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| 15:47.38 | zrin | is there a setting for init to mount sw raid arrays even if (newly) degraded? |
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| 15:48.13 | xingu | enouf: that layout looks like a great way to tickle object lifetime bugs |
| 15:48.13 | enouf | zrin: checkout /etc/default/mdadm .. unless you mean something else |
| 15:48.51 | enouf | xingu: that Makefile.build stuff from much earlier? or .. the 4/4 stuffs .. wait, let me guess ;-) |
| 15:48.53 | xingu | enouf: I shudder to think what the cost to shmem would be too |
| 15:48.57 | enouf | haha |
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| 15:49.01 | enouf | bingo |
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| 15:49.34 | zrin | enouf: I've rebooted a remote server and it didn't finish boot (init) just to tell that an raid array is missing a device, i.e. got degraded |
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| 15:50.24 | enouf | zrin: did you run the apropos mdadm --fail and --remove commands prior to rebooting? |
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| 15:50.44 | zrin | enouf: no, the disk failed during the boot |
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| 15:51.21 | zrin | enouf: but I'd like the system to come up instead to have to drive to the clients office |
| 15:51.39 | enouf | oh crap .. well .. only thing i can do is refer you to docs in /usr/share/doc/mdadm/* (and the man pages mdadm, mdadm.conf) likely something in those you can try .. |
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| 15:52.34 | doudou | http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?model=P5K&f_type=34&SLanguage=en-us |
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| 15:52.44 | enouf | i recall reading about older deprecated commands that shouldn't be used; mdstart? |
| 15:52.49 | doudou | enouf, should i download that kind of program? |
| 15:53.42 | doudou | a 36MB rar file ... crazy world |
| 15:53.45 | enouf | doudou: i offered you 3 options sometime back - remember those? well the 1st one i'm stuck on as i'm not a programmer, perhaps someone else can help |
| 15:54.16 | enouf | doudou: or .. you can move on to option 2 .. then if that fails, option 3 ;-) |
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| 15:54.48 | doudou | you proposed to go backport, i cant remmember why i have the etchnhalf kernel, but is was for a sensible reason to make my computer work |
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| 15:55.09 | doudou | no i dont remmember the options |
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| 15:55.11 | enouf | doudou: yes, support for your newer motherboard ... |
| 15:55.21 | enouf | likely disk controller support |
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| 15:56.18 | enouf | 1) work through those alsa-source build errors (which i cannot really help with) 2. upgrade to a .26 etch-backports kernel 3. dist-upgrade to lenny |
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| 15:57.04 | Lethias | I'm currently working on pc system running an AMD Athlon 64 3200+. I'm having some troubles with my system kill iceweasel while its downloading ubuntu. Is there anywhere i can look in the system for an error log bout this problem. |
| 15:57.43 | enouf | Lethias: use wget? |
| 15:57.56 | Lethias | na, just iceweasel to download it |
| 15:58.01 | enouf | no |
| 15:58.11 | Lethias | i'm using knoppix 5.1 |
| 15:58.22 | enouf | ask #knoppix |
| 15:58.51 | Lethias | its not knoppix acting up , i have no idea where to look for an error log. |
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| 15:59.08 | aghaster | Hi |
| 15:59.12 | microtico1 | Lethias: use wget |
| 15:59.28 | aghaster | I'm trying to find the source code of the xev package |
| 15:59.39 | aghaster | it looks hard to find on google |
| 15:59.54 | Lethias | I thought wget was for pulling files from websites without the browser. |
| 15:59.57 | aghaster | can't find it |
| 16:00.10 | doudou | i bought an expensive asus motherboard so i wont have problems |
| 16:00.12 | Lethias | I dont' need that i need a log of what happened. |
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| 16:02.21 | microtico1 | uhm, knoppix has no cryptosetup... |
| 16:02.47 | enouf | doudou: problems are meant to be solved - without them, you'd have no life :-P |
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| 16:03.13 | doudou | enouf, strange that asus support send linux file with rar format? |
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| 16:03.20 | Xecuter | hi! need some help! trying to install 64 studio, a distro based on etch, but the installer won't find my ethernet card. lshw -> http://pastebin.com/d6d8cfecd |
| 16:03.40 | microtico1 | Lethias: cd ~/Downloadsorwhereveryouwanttosaveit && wget -c www.example.com/folder/somewhere/yes/here/file.iso |
| 16:03.43 | enouf | doudou: ask them .. maybe there's some pron embedded ;-) |
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| 16:03.47 | Samb1 | hmm, does anyone know if theres supposed to be an R package for debian apt-get ? |
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| 16:03.54 | Xecuter | how can i solve it? |
| 16:04.05 | doudou | enouf, problems are here to stole my life, without problems i would have twice more life |
| 16:04.15 | mhymn_ | Xecuter: debian only |
| 16:04.19 | asg | Xecuter: ask them |
| 16:04.25 | microtico1 | doudou: ASUS is know for their brilliance |
| 16:04.25 | Samb1 | dpkg R |
| 16:04.26 | dpkg | R is a powerful language based on S, primarily used for statistics. It is well suited for dealing with large sets of numbers in matrices and/or vectors. apt-get install r-base r-recommended r-base-html. And it's "are", not "r", or http://www.r-project.org/ |
| 16:04.43 | Samb1 | ahh |
| 16:04.45 | microtico1 | doudou: I am not getting another asus after this one |
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| 16:05.02 | kerneloops | hi there! |
| 16:05.07 | stew | Samb1: single letter package names are not allowed in debian. try "apt-cache search \\br\\b" |
| 16:05.17 | Lethias | microticol: lol i just need a system log for what happened to the process or something. The file is not a big deal, i can download it on the other pc. I'm actually trying to diagnose this pc. |
| 16:05.18 | asg | Xecuter: http://www.64studio.com/irc |
| 16:05.18 | Samb1 | i see thanks, didn't realise that |
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| 16:05.48 | kerneloops | any advanced Sed user could help me with this? |
| 16:06.02 | doudou | i am so sorry not to find a debian prefered motherboard |
| 16:06.20 | k21 | what is goo gui irc chat client for ubuntu, plz |
| 16:06.25 | Xecuter | asg, there is no one there. you should be able to help, its just debian with an rt-kernel ^^, |
| 16:06.26 | kerneloops | I need a sed replacement line to be "replacing" just once and then quit |
| 16:06.28 | doudou | anyway i dont like debian |
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| 16:06.46 | exprim | neither do I |
| 16:06.47 | Samb1 | thanks stew, i asked dpkg its called r-base plus some other r- stuff |
| 16:06.58 | kerneloops | sed -ie 's/Something/$VAR/;q' dhcpd.conf |
| 16:07.00 | asg | kerneloops: see if http://student.northpark.edu/pemente/sed/sed1line.txt provides any quick oneliner |
| 16:07.18 | doudou | they are lucky that i more dislike others |
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| 16:07.23 | kerneloops | Something in that doesn't go, but literarly speaking seems ok |
| 16:07.33 | Samb1 | what do you prefer doudou? |
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| 16:07.52 | mhymn_ | k21: ask #ubuntu |
| 16:07.56 | asg | kerneloops: $VAR will not be interpolated if you surround it in ' quotes, presuming $VAR is a shell variable |
| 16:08.02 | enouf | doudou: now now .. maybe windows will be better for you |
| 16:08.14 | k21 | ok thxm hymn |
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| 16:08.26 | asg | Xecuter: an rt-kernel that isn't in debian so we have no idea how they configured it. |
| 16:08.33 | doudou | read me, i dislike much more others |
| 16:08.38 | kerneloops | asg, it was with '' in fact :) tried to simplify it |
| 16:08.48 | asg | Xecuter: /msg dpkg whats my hardware <---- have fun |
| 16:08.50 | doudou | windows stole a big part of my life |
| 16:08.51 | enouf | doudou: options 2 and 3 are looking a bit better now eh? :-) |
| 16:09.13 | xingu | kerneloops: sed -ie '/Something/ { s/Something/$VAR/; q }' dhcpd.conf |
| 16:09.36 | kerneloops | xingu, let me check |
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| 16:10.08 | xingu | kerneloops: as a matter of taste I'd probably correct to "... q; ..." |
| 16:10.09 | MJS | what can I do, when mplayer says "MPlayer interrupted by signal 11 in module: demux_open" ? |
| 16:10.13 | doudou | ok enouf, i choose option 2, now tell me what it is |
| 16:10.15 | stew | kerneloops: are you sure you want q? that will actually truncate the file, not just stop replacing |
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| 16:10.57 | enouf | MJS: might need the avidemux pkg? but sig11 is not good - segfault |
| 16:11.13 | doudou | samb1, i prefer lfs, but it is stupidly too painfull |
| 16:11.16 | enouf | doudou: install the etch-backports .26 kernel |
| 16:11.25 | kerneloops | stew, shit, I've just realize I certainly WONT |
| 16:11.41 | MJS | enouf: this problem occured not always - only for a week or so |
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| 16:11.55 | doudou | enouf, sounds well, but i cant figure out what that mean exactly |
| 16:12.05 | enouf | doudou: but sigh .. i'm thinking you would need Lenny's newer alsa stuffs as well .. not sure |
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| 16:12.38 | enouf | !tell doudou about backports.org |
| 16:12.51 | stew | kerneloops: you probably either want to just do sed -i '/only_if_this_matches/s/repalce_this/with_this' ; or you are going to have to use something more sophisticated like awk or perl or python or so |
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| 16:13.06 | enouf | MJS: only when using mplayer? no other sig11s? |
| 16:13.08 | stew | i missed a trailing / there |
| 16:13.44 | Samb1 | lfs? |
| 16:13.51 | MJS | enouf: VLC says: "[00000304] main decoder error: no suitable decoder module for fourcc `DX50'. |
| 16:13.51 | MJS | VLC probably does not support this sound or video format. |
| 16:13.51 | MJS | " |
| 16:13.59 | Xecuter | okey then lets pretend i had a regular etch-installer, how would i get it to recognize my ethernet-card? lshw says it uses the atl1-driver |
| 16:14.09 | doudou | enouf, i found a way to install debian etch without pain, you know i tell grub a special initrd and kernel and then they ask me an ip and debian install itself. can lenny do the same for me? |
| 16:14.13 | enouf | MJS: please don't paste into the channel ;-) |
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| 16:14.18 | MJS | sorry... |
| 16:14.35 | doudou | pastbin dot ca |
| 16:14.36 | enouf | MJS: is ffmpeg and w32codecs installed? |
| 16:14.40 | MJS | but Totem can play it |
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| 16:15.08 | kerneloops | stew, the problem is that I iterate and need sed to replace it only ONCE |
| 16:15.25 | enouf | doudou: yes .. but that doesn't matter - dist-upgrade is the way to move up from Etch -> Lenny |
| 16:16.12 | MJS | enouf: ffmpeg yes, but I never needed any w32 codecs for mplayer oO |
| 16:16.25 | kerneloops | i just need sed to say "ok, replace it, but just once, and stop replacing" |
| 16:16.36 | enouf | so no /g then |
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| 16:17.08 | MJS | and I, too, can't play ogg theora videos |
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| 16:17.23 | enouf | MJS: install support for it |
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| 16:17.36 | enouf | !tell MJS -about search |
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| 16:17.56 | doudou | enouf, bash: dist-upgrade: command not found |
| 16:18.21 | newsense_ | apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 16:18.32 | MJS | enouf: I know how to search... - but the thing is, that mplayer worked always and now it doesn't |
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| 16:19.49 | doudou | enouf, ok i tried google, but the advertising is something here, well http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-woody.en.html |
| 16:20.52 | xingu | kerneloops: sed -ie '0,/Something/s/Something/$VAR/' dhcpd.conf |
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| 16:21.27 | kerneloops | xingu, checking |
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| 16:22.59 | kerneloops | xingu, :D :D :D :D :D |
| 16:23.29 | kerneloops | xingu, **many** thanks |
| 16:23.46 | kerneloops | stew, asg thanks you too! |
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| 16:24.46 | xingu | kerneloops: literally - match from line 0 through (,) regex /Something/ and inside that 2-address substitute (s) |
| 16:25.07 | xingu | kerneloops: obviously the match exits once you hit the first occurrance |
| 16:25.08 | stew | xingu: nice one |
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| 16:25.26 | doudou | well, who is woody? consider i had windows 98SE, someone gave a link to install debian from windows, then i changed my world, but from here to speak of woody potato lennon there is a gap |
| 16:25.41 | xingu | kerneloops: nb on some systems this can swallow memory if 0,/Something/ is huge. |
| 16:26.32 | doudou | in fact second step was use of aptitude ... it is very strange how thing change, without we are aware |
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| 16:27.26 | doudou | http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/releasenotes -> 404 |
| 16:27.49 | stew | doudou: /msg dpkg lenny release notes |
| 16:27.53 | kerneloops | xingu, thanks both for the hand and the explanation |
| 16:28.35 | xingu | de nada |
| 16:28.59 | kerneloops | hahah |
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| 16:31.27 | doudou | GPG error: http://www.backports.org etch-backports Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY EA8E8B2116BA136C |
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| 16:31.50 | l403 | doudou: see the topic? |
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| 16:36.24 | doudou | Fetched 3B in 1s (2B/s) |
| 16:36.27 | RichiH | gah gah gah |
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| 16:36.43 | mordy | lol |
| 16:36.48 | RichiH | do i assume correctly that 'crontab -r' will remove all cronjobs without any backup of the jobs? |
| 16:37.16 | JordiGH | I've never known how to produce a manpage from a... nroff? source file (the filenames that end with .1) |
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| 16:39.38 | jpcooper | hello |
| 16:39.46 | jpcooper | could anyone tell me how to install a package to a specific path? |
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| 16:39.59 | xingu | JordiGH: groff -man -Tascii |
| 16:40.20 | JordiGH | jpcooper: A Debian package? Can't be done unless you repackage it yourself. |
| 16:40.22 | ConSi | qwertyuiop[[[]]]]]]]asdfghjkl;' |
| 16:40.24 | ConSi | blah |
| 16:40.26 | ConSi | sorry |
| 16:40.48 | JordiGH | xingu: Ah! Thanks! |
| 16:41.03 | jpcooper | JordiGH: okay then. I'll just unpackage it and see whether it works |
| 16:41.10 | stew | jpcooper: see the --instdir / --admindir / --root arguments to dpkg |
| 16:41.13 | pngwn | c |
| 16:41.15 | xingu | has worked on some hideously braindamaged systems in his time |
| 16:41.18 | jpcooper | thanks stew |
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| 16:45.59 | doudou | well, i will come to finish latter |
| 16:46.05 | doudou | disconnected from server |
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| 16:47.28 | mordy | i'm having problems with X and i'm gathering it has something to do with newer updates that i downloaded - is there a way to roll back to previous versions? i didn't change anything that would affect x, nor do i know which update is causing this |
| 16:47.55 | craigevil | !downgrade |
| 16:47.55 | dpkg | methinks downgrade is not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later, and package maintainer scripts provide ways to upgrade to new config file formats but not ways to downgrade. You can always try to downgrade a package using dpkg -i <olderversion.deb>. Also see <partial downgrade>, or <sdn> |
| 16:48.16 | mordy | guess not |
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| 16:49.01 | enouf | mordy: you could look at /var/log.dpkg.log to get an idea of what was upgraded .. so long as you didn't do a dist-upgrade or say change your sources.list file recently and add a newer repo - sure you can force older pkgs, using apt/aptitude |
| 16:49.52 | xingu | mutters something about filesystem snapshots |
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| 16:50.15 | enouf | mordy: i mean, if you went from etch's Xorg to Lenny;s version, then you don't want to try and downgrade .. but if there's one particular pkg you could blame, reinstall the older working version |
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| 16:50.58 | mordy | well, i didn't upgrade my distribution, but i do upgrade through gnome's applet |
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| 16:51.29 | Moofius | HOW TO: crash a debian box, use "mv file" to another partition |
| 16:51.58 | cmanns | Is the Realtek 8139 supported? |
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| 16:52.49 | xingu | cmanns: believe so, but from memory they're not terribly *good* |
| 16:52.51 | doudou | i was wondering, i will not change to lenny |
| 16:53.13 | enouf | Moofius: that doesn't even make sense ... and btw, mv only updates the FS inodes when used within the same FS |
| 16:53.21 | doudou | i wont upgrade to non free drivers only to make my sound card work |
| 16:53.59 | enouf | !tell cmanns about rtl8139 |
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| 16:54.08 | doudou | i will just remmember asus fucked me with this p5k, and come to ask you what motherboard can run with etch |
| 16:54.26 | Moofius | ok |
| 16:54.39 | Moofius | now all files I tried to move have been destroyed |
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| 16:54.45 | Moofius | any tips on a restoration program? |
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| 16:54.52 | doudou | i will buy another motherboard, what one is etch certified? |
| 16:54.59 | aadil | rdiff-backup, Moofius |
| 16:55.01 | aadil | :3 |
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| 16:55.08 | enouf | xingu: boy .. this sunday is running a bit long this week ;-) |
| 16:55.55 | hoxu | Moofius, mv only deletes files after successful move |
| 16:56.11 | enouf | doudou: just use lenny - keep your wintendo weenie motherboard, and be happy and dual boot into windows for games |
| 16:56.13 | Moofius | hoxu: well, the computer crashed, and restarted |
| 16:56.14 | cmanns | ahh fuck |
| 16:56.19 | doudou | i wrote fuck because i supposed they should warn me they were changing things |
| 16:56.19 | Moofius | and all files are gone |
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| 16:56.23 | Moofius | ls wont show em |
| 16:56.24 | cmanns | enouf, last time I tried deb it didnt work for me either |
| 16:56.31 | hoxu | Moofius, all files? Really? |
| 16:56.37 | cmanns | Sounds like a user problem |
| 16:56.38 | mordy | hmm... looking at the log i can't really see what is messing with X |
| 16:56.39 | Moofius | all files I tried to move |
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| 16:56.56 | doudou | enouf, my last windows were windows98SE, i will never use windows again for my life |
| 16:57.05 | Moofius | anyone know a program that scans the harddisk for deleted files and tries to restore em? |
| 16:57.13 | hoxu | Moofius, sounds like layer 8 issue - but check the hardware first, anything in syslog? |
| 16:57.22 | doudou | enouf, i will never buy microsoft, and more i will never copy one |
| 16:57.22 | enouf | mordy: you'd have to locate the Xorg related pkgs - what errors are you getting, which version of debian, which driver are you using? |
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| 16:57.43 | Moofius | hoxu: I am on a remote terminal, where can I find syslog? |
| 16:57.52 | enouf | doudou: you did buy some Microsoft already - look at your ACPI DSDTs and such ;-) |
| 16:57.56 | hoxu | Moofius, /var/log/syslog |
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| 16:58.03 | doudou | jsut tell me a standard etch certified motherboard |
| 16:58.13 | aadil | has a microsoft pen and keychain |
| 16:58.17 | aadil | sadly i lost em |
| 16:58.19 | aadil | :S |
| 16:58.25 | hoxu | Moofius, are you *sure* the machine booted because of the mv, not because someone kicked it over? |
| 16:58.27 | enouf | doudou: Intel pentium II warmsprings |
| 16:58.34 | mordy | i've had this problem in the past but not here - i'll post some of the errors in the x log - but the actual problem i'm experiencing is 5% cpu time on a q6600 when switching windows (didn't have thihs before) |
| 16:58.49 | Moofius | hoxu: well, it's a rack server, so I doubt someone kicked it over XD |
| 16:58.50 | doudou | enouf, i bought too many microsoft, and copy a lot too, i lost my time, they gave it to me against my time indeed |
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| 16:59.01 | Moofius | nothing in syslog |
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| 16:59.29 | doudou | enouf, there is better than pentium II motherboard |
| 16:59.48 | doudou | enouf, the ones of linuxbios are ok? |
| 16:59.54 | hoxu | Moofius, is it behind UPS? |
| 16:59.55 | abchirk | how long it will take that etch gets mysql 5.1? |
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| 17:00.01 | enouf | doudou: ofcourse - there's always better .. but, what's wrong with it though? |
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| 17:00.23 | enouf | doudou: they might be what you're after - i haven't yet had the pleasure |
| 17:00.26 | johndoe | 2.6.27.9 under the hood since 5 mins ago :D |
| 17:00.26 | Moofius | hoxu: dunno |
| 17:00.37 | hoxu | abchirk, never ! |
| 17:00.46 | abchirk | hehe |
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| 17:01.37 | doudou | disconnected from server |
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| 17:01.44 | j-u-l-i-a-n | hello |
| 17:01.47 | j-u-l-i-a-n | Someone can help me, iceweasel is not going well with this site. http://www.joost.com/home?playNow=0936vse, it appears that there is something wrong with java? someone has an idea? |
| 17:01.48 | doudou | i love this one |
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| 17:03.24 | mordy | enouf - here it is - unfortunately i don't have an older log with which to compare it to http://rafb.net/p/ixfT8f28.html |
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| 17:04.16 | craigevil | j-u-l-i-a-n: plays fine here using iceweasel 3.0.4 |
| 17:04.34 | mordy | unless X keeps older logs somewhere else (besides the .old one) |
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| 17:05.52 | j-u-l-i-a-n | craigevil: i have 3.0.4? |
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| 17:06.49 | j-u-l-i-a-n | you may have configured something wrong? or I lack any plugin? |
| 17:07.10 | imduffy15 | Hey, Can somebody help me with slapd i can't start it i checked my logs and they say could not stat config file "/etc/ldap/slapd.conf": Permission denied (13) and the premissions on /etc/ldap/slapd.conf are -rw--w---- 1 root openldap 4716 2008-12-15 16:28 slapd.conf |
| 17:07.38 | mordy | oh, let me paste the dpkg log too |
| 17:07.52 | bolt-work | imduffy15: are you running slapd as root? |
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| 17:08.12 | imduffy15 | bolt-work, yes |
| 17:08.59 | bolt-work | imduffy15: sure you're not running it as openldap or something? |
| 17:09.35 | mordy | http://rafb.net/p/U4kbnx39.html |
| 17:09.39 | imduffy15 | yeah i'm sure its root |
| 17:09.50 | bolt-work | imduffy15: if this is not a production environment, chmod 666 /etc/ldap/slapd.conf and see if it works |
| 17:09.57 | imduffy15 | ok |
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| 17:11.03 | imduffy15 | nope still get the same thing bolt-work |
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| 17:13.19 | bolt-work | imduffy15: what are the permissions on /etc/ldap? |
| 17:13.41 | imduffy15 | drwx------ 2 root root 4096 2008-12-15 17:13 ldap |
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| 17:14.14 | bolt-work | imduffy15: try chmod 777 /etc/ldap (remember to reset these. you don't want to keep them like that= |
| 17:14.57 | imduffy15 | ah great that worked :) |
| 17:15.09 | bolt-work | imduffy15: then it's not running as root |
| 17:16.00 | imduffy15 | :o i thought it was if i do /etc/init.d/slapd start from the root account does it not start under the root user? |
| 17:16.20 | bolt-work | imduffy15: nope |
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| 17:18.18 | imduffy15 | thanks for your help bolt-work seems to be running fine now :D |
| 17:18.48 | enouf | mordy: i don't know :-/ maybe you can email the debian-x/debian-user mailing lists and give them the info. Might try some #xorg-devel channel(s) |
| 17:19.01 | bolt-work | imduffy15: sure, but you want to restrict the permissions to whatever user/group slapd runs as |
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| 17:19.18 | bolt-work | imduffy15: with your current setup, anyone can change its config file |
| 17:19.40 | imduffy15 | Yeah i did that just there and it still works :) set chown openldap:openldap -R /etc/ldap and then did chmod 740 -R /etc/ldap |
| 17:19.53 | enouf | mordy: but i'd bet you'd have to show/prove you had much less CPU usage prior .. and maybe gnome has a way to access it's applet |
| 17:20.05 | enouf | 's information/logs/etc |
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| 17:20.21 | enouf | i guess that |
| 17:20.23 | bolt-work | imduffy15: okay then |
| 17:20.48 | CcSsNET | i know this is a genralized question on linux but ill ask here anyway |
| 17:21.00 | CcSsNET | hey all i got a question about /usr/bin and /usr/local/bin. is there really duplicate files? or is it a symlink hard/soft? whats the deal with this its agravating me |
| 17:21.32 | CcSsNET | i understand seperation for distro vers local files keeping organized but it always seems to just contain duplicate files each location |
| 17:22.08 | \amethyst | CcSsNET: that means that the system administrator installed a program both using the package manager and locally |
| 17:22.09 | CcSsNET | would it be safe to simply remove all of the contents of either one |
| 17:22.13 | zenit | there shouldn't be any duplication. If it is, then you probably have a mess. |
| 17:22.19 | bolt-work | I didn't think debian put anything in /usr/local/bin |
| 17:22.31 | \amethyst | CcSsNET: no, that is not safe. If you remove /usr/bin everything will break |
| 17:22.33 | enouf | mordy: however |
| 17:22.37 | CcSsNET | this is not a devian question i say genralized |
| 17:22.44 | \amethyst | CcSsNET: if you removed /usr/local/bin, locally installed software would break |
| 17:22.49 | newsense_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:22.55 | \amethyst | doesn't matter, *no* distribution should be putting things in /usr/local/ |
| 17:22.56 | enouf | mordy: i see nothing about Xorg/Xserver in those 2 days, but .. i do see -> 2008-12-15 05:32:41 upgrade linux-image-2.6-amd64 2.6.26+16 2.6.26+17 |
| 17:23.03 | mordy | yeah |
| 17:23.06 | CcSsNET | well could i just symlink the directory? |
| 17:23.10 | mordy | but that's after the problem already started |
| 17:23.10 | enouf | mordy: so maybe roll back to your older kernel version |
| 17:23.16 | bolt-work | CcSsNET: for what purpose? |
| 17:23.16 | mordy | lol |
| 17:23.17 | enouf | mordy: reboot into it |
| 17:23.21 | mordy | did that |
| 17:23.26 | enouf | mordy: what? |
| 17:23.32 | enouf | then what good is it? |
| 17:23.35 | \amethyst | CcSsNET: you could, but then if you installed software locally and then installed the same thing with apt-get you would override the local version |
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| 17:23.40 | CcSsNET | i see no point i did a diff comparison of the two directories they are literally 100% the same asside from dates |
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| 17:23.52 | bolt-work | CcSsNET: then you have a mess |
| 17:23.58 | CcSsNET | its a project, not for a installed system |
| 17:24.04 | CcSsNET | im building a livecd |
| 17:24.07 | mordy | well, it started between the 14-15th which is why i only posted the log info from those two dates |
| 17:24.10 | CcSsNET | and im going for space saving |
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| 17:24.24 | enouf | mordy: ls -l /var/log/dpkg* |
| 17:24.26 | \amethyst | CcSsNET: then I'd recommend making /usr/local/bin an empty directory |
| 17:24.38 | \amethyst | CcSsNET: assuming everything there is in /usr/bin and the md5sums are the same |
| 17:24.47 | enouf | mordy: but .. you just said " <mordy> but that's after the problem already started" |
| 17:24.57 | mordy | -rw-r----- 1 root adm 203944 2008-12-15 12:14 dpkg.log |
| 17:24.58 | CcSsNET | sounds good amethyst. would it be wise to symlink/soft the folders? |
| 17:25.06 | \amethyst | CcSsNET: no, keep them separate |
| 17:25.16 | \amethyst | CcSsNET: there is no point in having both containing exactly the same files |
| 17:25.16 | pirx_ | hi! the init.d scripts, do they usually also check and make sure that the service is running (aside from merely starting it)? |
| 17:25.24 | enouf | mordy: and stop using cat and grep, next time, just "grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log" |
| 17:25.52 | CcSsNET | ok well ill backup my project and remove /usr/local/bin haha |
| 17:25.54 | zenit | pirx_: depends, a good init-script usually checks if the service is running. |
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| 17:26.13 | enouf | mordy: er ... i didn't want to see output of ls -l .. but i have atleast 10 dpkg.log* |
| 17:26.26 | enouf | ~$ ll /var/log/dpkg.log |
| 17:26.26 | enouf | dpkg.log dpkg.log.10.gz dpkg.log.12.gz dpkg.log.3.gz dpkg.log.5.gz dpkg.log.7.gz dpkg.log.9.gz |
| 17:26.26 | zenit | I mean on startup, not afterwards, if you had that in mind :) |
| 17:26.34 | CcSsNET | at least people talked to me here :D in efnet.org#linux i was banned for questioning a troll and in freenode#linux no one understood the concept |
| 17:26.41 | mordy | ahh... this log has entries from over a week ago |
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| 17:26.58 | mordy | i've got 4 |
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| 17:28.39 | dustybin | if there are 2x IPs exactly the same on a LAN, what gets used first? |
| 17:28.43 | enouf | i have so many due to mounting with noatime and not allowing the system cron.* to run :-p |
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| 17:29.33 | enouf | dustybin: used? by what? the NIC? or the connection to the web? or ... |
| 17:29.49 | dustybin | just 2x desktop machine with the same IP |
| 17:29.53 | dustybin | on the same LAN |
| 17:30.07 | bolt-work | dustybin: depends on your switch, i'd say |
| 17:30.14 | enouf | dustybin: the one that boots first? :-P |
| 17:30.40 | bolt-work | dustybin: most likely the one that is most insistent on updating the switch's arp table gets the packets |
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| 17:30.42 | dustybin | im trying to see if i fool my LAN in pretending my desktop is the gateway, and see if all the traffic passes through it |
| 17:30.43 | bolt-work | dustybin: or both |
| 17:31.08 | bolt-work | dustybin: read up on arp poisoning :) |
| 17:31.13 | dustybin | aye i am |
| 17:31.46 | dustybin | but i just dont understand, if i set my desktop the same IP as my gateway, what would get used first? |
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| 17:32.06 | Lothar | 2 ip in same machine is channel bonding no ? |
| 17:32.14 | bolt-work | you'll end up with your machine getting all the traffic, both getting the traffic, or the gateway still getting the traffic, an alarm sound and a very angry it admin, depending on the security level of your network |
| 17:32.16 | enouf | not same machine |
| 17:32.44 | mordy | how do i search for multiple strings with grep? |
| 17:32.44 | bolt-work | static arp tables ftw |
| 17:32.51 | enouf | mordy: egrep |
| 17:32.55 | mordy | oh |
| 17:32.57 | enouf | grep -E |
| 17:33.21 | enouf | mordy: egrep 'one|two|three' /path/to/file |
| 17:33.23 | dustybin | so all i need to do is change my desktop to the same ip as my gateway, then run ettercap and watch |
| 17:33.55 | dustybin | tests |
| 17:34.06 | mordy | ahh works - thanks |
| 17:34.10 | enouf | mordy: for recursive searching, see the -r option, and rgrep - see also zgrep |
| 17:34.31 | bolt-work | no. you don't need to change your ip at all. just have your machine tell the switch that your machine responds to the gateway ip |
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| 17:35.41 | mordy | haven't had to use grep or its variants for a while - but now i've got problems with X - at least if it were wiht something else - i always have problems with X |
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| 17:36.51 | Moofius | err |
| 17:36.52 | enouf | mordy: also, maybe people in an #intel channel can help? i mean, we have a #radeon and #nvidia here |
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| 17:36.55 | Moofius | I have lost a partition |
| 17:37.07 | Moofius | with df I used to get /dev/sda3 in it |
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| 17:37.17 | Moofius | now it is not there anymore |
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| 17:37.25 | Moofius | how to mount it again? |
| 17:38.27 | mordy | enouf - i'm trying the xorg channel - i'll try the others as well |
| 17:38.34 | pirx_ | zenit: ok, thanks |
| 17:38.41 | pau1 | how can I make downloads with aria (for default), thanks |
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| 17:39.03 | mordy | although i like this channel the most - i guess the other channels are usually desolate |
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| 17:39.35 | mordy | hmm -- there's no intel channel |
| 17:39.46 | gsamsa | anyone got xen working on lenny ? |
| 17:39.54 | pau1 | sorry: my english is not good |
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| 17:40.21 | jackweb | I don't know even what xen means :) |
| 17:40.34 | gribouille | hi |
| 17:41.10 | joltcan | gsamsa: You need a kernel from etch since no lenny kernels have xen compiled. Or compile it yourself |
| 17:41.29 | gribouille | I need help about creating multiple binary packages from one source package (for exemple libfoo and libfoo-dev) |
| 17:41.44 | gsamsa | thanks |
| 17:41.48 | mordy | enouf - i thought intel was the most supported though |
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| 17:42.38 | joltcan | gsamsa: I hade some help from a wiki page, might be this one: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Xen |
| 17:42.39 | enouf | mordy: doesn't mean issues don't occur, bugs found, etc .. |
| 17:42.59 | mordy | i remember almost filing a bug report |
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| 17:43.19 | mordy | then found a fix in the dark corners of google - i think like on page 10 of the search results |
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| 17:43.30 | newsense_ | when i apt-cache search grep linux |grep xen i get xen packages from testing repo |
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| 17:43.43 | newsense_ | err one too many greps in there typo |
| 17:43.56 | joltcan | gsamsa: Oh, looks like there is a xen-lenny kernel now \o/ |
| 17:44.18 | enouf | joltcan: or .. use a sid kernel? |
| 17:44.31 | joltcan | Maybe I should just break my gateway tonight |
| 17:44.51 | joltcan | gsamsa: http://wiki.debian.org/Xen |
| 17:44.52 | gsamsa | joltcan: yes :D |
| 17:44.54 | enouf | mordy: obscurity needs to be weened out! |
| 17:45.02 | mordy | ahh found the intel channel - it's #intel-gfx |
| 17:45.12 | enouf | bingo |
| 17:45.19 | bigshot | I am getting this : hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000 when I click for my windows drive' |
| 17:45.20 | gribouille | hey, are you sleeping ? |
| 17:45.25 | julian | hola a todos |
| 17:45.30 | gsamsa | olá |
| 17:45.31 | joltcan | enouf: I rather just run everything in the same dist, but thats an idea |
| 17:46.03 | jackweb | ola |
| 17:46.08 | jackweb | hola :D |
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| 17:48.22 | Moofius | How to create a mount point? |
| 17:48.40 | mordy | mkdir? |
| 17:49.01 | jackweb | vim /etc/fstab? |
| 17:49.09 | jackweb | (for ever) |
| 17:49.33 | mordy | if you use fstab make sure to specify a type or it won't mount at boot |
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| 17:49.48 | mordy | or at least that's what happens to me - don't know why |
| 17:49.52 | jackweb | (ext3 for example) |
| 17:50.06 | gribouille | I need help about creating multiple binary packages from one source package (for exemple libfoo and libfoo-dev) |
| 17:50.38 | Moofius | yay, got mah files back :) |
| 17:51.43 | Moofius | how to make debian automatically run "sudo mount /dev/sda3 /space" at startup? |
| 17:51.53 | jackweb | Moofius: edit /etc/fstab |
| 17:52.00 | mordy | why do you want sudo mounting at startup? |
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| 17:52.24 | Moofius | jackweb: there are alot of numbers there, how to enter a new hard-disk? |
| 17:52.33 | jackweb | /dev/sda3 /space ext3 defaults 0 0 |
| 17:52.36 | jackweb | (maybe) |
| 17:52.53 | jackweb | ext3 - I don't know what type of partition do you have |
| 17:53.29 | mordy | moofius: fdisk -l to see what's on your drive and which partition you need, then copy what jackweb pasted and change the relevant details |
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| 17:53.50 | Moofius | -bash: fdisk: command not found |
| 17:53.55 | Moofius | just apt-get it? |
| 17:54.02 | mordy | yeah |
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| 17:54.15 | mordy | although maybe you're not root - don't know if you need root for it |
| 17:54.44 | Moofius | worked as root |
| 17:54.53 | jackweb | so install fdisk |
| 17:55.23 | jackweb | (gnu-fdisk package?) |
| 17:55.32 | Moofius | http://pastie.org/339765 |
| 17:56.35 | mordy | well, i don't know which partition you want to mount |
| 17:57.08 | jackweb | 18:53 < Moofius> how to make debian automatically run "sudo mount /dev/sda3 /space" at startup? |
| 17:57.20 | jackweb | I think he would like to mount /dev/sda3 |
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| 17:58.53 | mordy | moofius: also, sudo is only when you're not logged in at root - you don't need sudo at boot time since it runs in single-user (i.e. root-only) mode until you get to the login prompt |
| 17:58.57 | Moofius | I just used "/dev/sda3 /space ext3 defaults 0 0", and it works |
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| 17:59.25 | Moofius | mordy: sudo is faster to say :P |
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| 18:00.30 | mordy | well, you can just at a script which conists of mount /dev/sda3 /space - which is even 'faster' lol |
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| 18:01.49 | jackweb | replace maybe /space to /mnt/space |
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| 18:03.52 | o2T7 | I've just installed debian stable on a server with two network interfaces that need some propietary firmware. I copied the files.fw to /lib/firmware on the installation filesystem and the system installed successfully. My problem is that, when booting into the new system, It fails to load the files.fw |
| 18:03.59 | mordy | gah, #intel-gfx is desolate |
| 18:04.50 | o2T7 | I've mounted the newly installed filesystem and the files are in /lib/firmware, but I guess that I must tell the kernel anything else. |
| 18:05.28 | o2T7 | I wonder if it could simply be done by adding some option to my grub's entries ... |
| 18:06.06 | stoned | In the begining |
| 18:06.08 | stoned | There was amarok |
| 18:06.10 | \amethyst | hm, I wonder if doing update-initramfs would be enough |
| 18:06.11 | stoned | Now |
| 18:06.18 | stoned | there is Amarok2.0 (just released) |
| 18:06.20 | \amethyst | does it copy stuff out of /lib/firmware? |
| 18:06.28 | stoned | judd versions amarok |
| 18:06.28 | judd | stoned: amarok -- etch: 1.4.4-4 lenny: 1.4.10-1 sid: 1.4.10-1 experimental: 2.0-1 |
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| 18:06.32 | stoned | ohhhh yes! |
| 18:06.40 | stoned | its here! |
| 18:06.43 | stoned | amarok2 is here |
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| 18:06.44 | stoned | goddamn |
| 18:06.47 | stoned | fuck yes. |
| 18:06.54 | enouf | ... |
| 18:06.55 | stew | stoned: stop hitting enter |
| 18:07.03 | stoned | oh yeah sorry |
| 18:07.08 | stoned | I got carried away, my bad |
| 18:07.09 | o2T7 | \amethyst: It copies the firmware files into /lib/firmware. Do you mean that? |
| 18:07.14 | stoned | enouf, dude! :) |
| 18:07.45 | stoned | enouf, why you are making a ... ? |
| 18:07.56 | mordy | weird, glxgears uses less cpu than X |
| 18:07.56 | enouf | stoned: what up yo? -- more talkie in your channel thingamabobthing |
| 18:08.09 | mordy | or rather it uses less cpu than simply switching a window |
| 18:08.12 | stoned | enouf, you are anti amarok? you big weenie! ok debian-chat |
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| 18:08.36 | hell-blues | is there a way to escape from dpkg --configure -a |
| 18:08.39 | \amethyst | o2T7: I was wondering out loud whether update-initramfs would fix the problem by putting the firmware into the initramfs |
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| 18:09.11 | \amethyst | o2T7: Ignore me, I don't know what I'm talking about right now :) |
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| 18:09.21 | stoned | \amethyst, what? |
| 18:09.27 | stoned | oh nm then |
| 18:09.29 | o2T7 | \amethyst: If I chroot into the new filesystem, update-initramfs isn't available. |
| 18:09.47 | \amethyst | and it doesn't matter because this was for a network driver not the root filesystem driver :) |
| 18:10.21 | enouf | o2T7: show us the errors in a pastebin |
| 18:10.28 | o2T7 | That's the weird thing, isn't it? It it is just a network driver ... why does the kernel fail to load?? |
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| 18:10.56 | robyonrails | hi guys, how can I type a tilde in the bash? how can I specify chars using ASCII code? |
| 18:11.25 | stoned | uh.. you have no tilde key? |
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| 18:11.44 | hell-blues | is there a way to escape from dpkg --configure -a |
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| 18:12.19 | o2T7 | enouf: I can't copy the text, since the machine fails to boot, but essentially says "Loading kernel image\nfailed to load bnx2-06-4.0.5.fw" |
| 18:12.57 | o2T7 | I thought that, being the firmware under /lib/firmware it would pick it from there |
| 18:13.00 | stoned | robyonrails, 02DC |
| 18:13.05 | stoned | robyonrails, on unicode HEX |
| 18:13.10 | stoned | 247 DEC |
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| 18:13.47 | stoned | CB9C <-- sorry |
| 18:14.15 | stoned | — |
| 18:14.43 | stoned | this is actually weird I looked a few resources and I see diff answers for hex and decimal values for a tilde in UTF-8 |
| 18:14.45 | robyonrails | which key combination do I have to press with? |
| 18:14.54 | stoned | you have your meta modifier? |
| 18:14.58 | o2T7 | In this machine, there was a Red Hat runing a Xen kernel. Do you think that it has to do with it? |
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| 18:15.05 | robyonrails | mmmh |
| 18:15.10 | enouf | o2T7: what does the network have to do with it failing to boot? are you netbooting? |
| 18:15.19 | robyonrails | I don't know what it is |
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| 18:15.35 | o2T7 | enouf: That's what I don't know. I am not netbooting |
| 18:15.36 | robyonrails | which it is |
| 18:15.36 | hell-blues | dpkg was corrupted and i wonna not do dpkg --configure -a . Is there a way ? |
| 18:15.38 | dpkg | I think you lost me on that one, hell-blues |
| 18:16.01 | o2T7 | I have just installed a new system from netinstall media |
| 18:16.06 | twobitsprite | dpkg: shut up |
| 18:16.06 | dpkg | Kiss my shiny metal ass! |
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| 18:16.10 | johndoe | how can i get information about package with aptitude. ie which files does a certain package install |
| 18:16.33 | mordy | dpkg -S <packgage> |
| 18:16.34 | dpkg | Package: <packgage>: Status: install ok installed |
| 18:16.38 | robyonrails | stoned, moreover, I can't set the US keyboard layout: I type "loadkeys us" but it doesn't work |
| 18:16.53 | enouf | johndoe: apt-file, or pdo |
| 18:16.54 | johndoe | mordy: i dont think thats what i need |
| 18:16.57 | mordy | oh |
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| 18:18.01 | enouf | johndoe: dpkg -L <pkg> for installed pkgs, or the other 2 for not yet installed (and not d/l to /cache/ or anything) |
| 18:18.02 | stoned | mod1 Alt_L (0x40), Alt_R (0x6c), Meta_L (0xcd) |
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| 18:18.09 | bigshot | I am getting this what should I do? >>> BigShot:/home/kp2285# spicctrl --setbrightness=100 |
| 18:18.09 | bigshot | ioctl: Input/output error |
| 18:18.11 | meyou | mordy, your last name isn't solomon by chance? |
| 18:18.35 | mordy | no, but my uncle's name is |
| 18:18.37 | mordy | lol |
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| 18:18.42 | meyou | lol is he in IT? |
| 18:18.44 | enouf | robyonrails: setxkbmap? |
| 18:18.49 | mordy | no, contract law :| |
| 18:18.53 | meyou | aah |
| 18:19.02 | mordy | and he's dead too |
| 18:19.07 | meyou | i've done some work with a mordy solomon in NYC |
| 18:19.08 | stoned | who cares |
| 18:19.14 | meyou | sorry to hear :o |
| 18:19.16 | stoned | who is mordy solomon |
| 18:19.22 | robyonrails | enouf, thx |
| 18:19.23 | meyou | not Mordbrann |
| 18:19.25 | meyou | *mordy |
| 18:19.27 | robyonrails | it works |
| 18:19.32 | bigshot | does anyone know how to use SPICCTRL? |
| 18:19.37 | twobitsprite | stoned: John Galt's cousin? |
| 18:19.44 | stoned | whoever that is |
| 18:19.47 | enouf | robyonrails: i believe you might need to run dpkg-reconfigure console-data or similar? i recall 4 choices at the beginning for altering keymaps |
| 18:19.55 | enouf | !keymap |
| 18:19.55 | dpkg | To change your console keymap, run "dpkg-reconfigure console-data". To change your X keymap, read "man xmodmap", or ask me about <set up x> or <drxx> or use kcontrol, gnome-control-center or similar. For setting up X keymaps, also check out xkeycaps and xev, or ask me about <multimedia keys>. In console you can also use "loadkeys" for once-only/temporary adjustments. |
| 18:20.02 | stoned | and why exactly are we discussing jewish people in here? |
| 18:20.06 | twobitsprite | stoned: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Galt |
| 18:20.07 | stoned | any certain reason? |
| 18:20.10 | mordy | i'm too much of a noob anyway |
| 18:20.15 | stoned | I don't really care, but thanks for the link |
| 18:20.18 | meyou | stoned: because you touch yourself at night |
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| 18:20.29 | stoned | and how is that any of your business? |
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| 18:20.41 | stoned | get back on topic please. |
| 18:20.48 | meyou | you asked...i answered |
| 18:20.49 | bigshot | hey twobitsprite how to use spicctrl? |
| 18:20.56 | stoned | meyou, please keep it on topic. |
| 18:21.01 | twobitsprite | !tell bigshot -about ask |
| 18:21.20 | twobitsprite | bigshot: I don't even know what spicctrl is |
| 18:21.47 | stoned | Sony Vaio controller program to set LCD backlight brightness |
| 18:21.51 | stoned | twobitsprite, ^ |
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| 18:22.14 | bigshot | stoned, how to use it? i am getting I/O error :| |
| 18:22.14 | twobitsprite | stoned: I don't really care, but thanks ;P |
| 18:22.28 | stoned | twobitsprite, oh you don't? |
| 18:22.34 | stoned | twobitsprite, sorry to bother you then. |
| 18:22.43 | stoned | bigshot, I do not know |
| 18:23.45 | jackweb | I've got a problem with minimalizing programms. I cannot minimalize a programm by alt + tab since I use Lenny or Compiz (earlier I used Etch and didn't use Compiz). Where's a problem? |
| 18:24.10 | jackweb | maybe in configuration of compiz (minimalizing) |
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| 18:24.22 | jackweb | ? |
| 18:24.32 | jackweb | (the latest sentences is a question :)) |
| 18:24.38 | stoned | uhm |
| 18:24.40 | jackweb | sentence |
| 18:24.48 | stoned | 1) minimize. NOT minimalize. |
| 18:24.49 | stoned | :) |
| 18:25.05 | jackweb | stoned: I'm from Poland. Thank you. :) |
| 18:25.12 | stoned | 2) alt+tab doesn't minimize anything, it switches tasks |
| 18:25.13 | mordy | when you thihnk about 'minimalizing' something, compiz is the last thing that comes to mind lol |
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| 18:25.31 | stoned | even in compiz you can't configure it to minimize an app if it loses focus |
| 18:25.31 | cr3 | are postinst scripts run with /bin/sh or bash? |
| 18:25.36 | stoned | however they may have implemented that feature |
| 18:25.43 | stoned | jackweb, #compiz-fusion |
| 18:25.50 | jackweb | ok |
| 18:25.59 | twobitsprite | cr3: /bin/sh is bash, no? |
| 18:26.01 | stoned | they may know better |
| 18:26.03 | jackweb | I'll search :) |
| 18:26.04 | stoned | they are experts in htere |
| 18:26.16 | stoned | jackweb, simply /join #compiz-fusion and ask there |
| 18:26.26 | jackweb | ok |
| 18:26.42 | cr3 | twobitsprite: on some debian derivatives, such as ubuntu, not necessarily |
| 18:26.56 | cr3 | twobitsprite: as long as I'm packaging, I might as well do it once |
| 18:26.57 | jackweb | (I've thought Lenny may be a problem) |
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| 18:26.59 | twobitsprite | cr3: if you're running ubuntu, you're in the wrong channel |
| 18:27.05 | jackweb | I thought * |
| 18:27.13 | stoned | !tell cr3 -about nmg |
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| 18:27.31 | stoned | jackweb, I doubt that, that would be a big byg |
| 18:27.33 | stoned | bug* |
| 18:27.34 | cr3 | stoned: cheers |
| 18:28.03 | stoned | cr3, if you are on ubuntu, you need to go to #ubuntu |
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| 18:28.35 | stew | cr3: if they are scripts, they are run however the shebang says they are to be run. some aren't scripts at all but compiled executables |
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| 18:29.37 | cr3 | stew: my bad! I didn't notice the shebang in there, thanks! |
| 18:29.50 | jackweb | stoned: I've just replaced compiz to metacity and alt + tab run so I'll ask #compiz-fusion |
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| 18:30.11 | cr3 | stew: I'll still take the time to read the policy manual in case other languages might be frowned upon or something |
| 18:32.03 | stoned | jackweb, ahh I know your problem now |
| 18:32.08 | stoned | I think |
| 18:32.24 | stoned | jackweb, open compiz confusion manager |
| 18:32.25 | stew | cr3: well using a language which isn't supported by an Essential: yes package would mean you might need a Pre-Depends: which should be avoided |
| 18:32.30 | stoned | I mean, the compiz fusion manager applet |
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| 18:32.46 | stoned | ccsm I think |
| 18:33.04 | stoned | go down to the last section called Window management |
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| 18:33.18 | jackweb | stoned: wait, I haven't got ccm Python Module.. :/ |
| 18:33.21 | stoned | jackweb, and select the checkbox next to Application Switcher |
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| 18:33.45 | stoned | jackweb, install compizconfig-settings-manager |
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| 18:33.54 | stoned | then it will be in your menu |
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| 18:34.14 | stoned | or you can directly run it if menu isnot found by using /usr/bin/ccsm |
| 18:34.38 | stoned | jackweb, I was unable to understand you before but I do now. It seems you are not loading the application switcher plugin in compiz |
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| 18:35.17 | stoned | make sure its loaded, and go into it, bo go bindinds tab |
| 18:35.30 | stoned | there is a option called Next Window with a keyboard icon next to it |
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| 18:35.40 | stoned | jackweb, click the button and make sure you select ALT + TAB |
| 18:35.42 | jackweb | stoned: ccm isn't present after updating to Lenny |
| 18:35.45 | stoned | it should be already default to it |
| 18:35.51 | stoned | jackweb, yes it is |
| 18:35.53 | stoned | I am on lenny |
| 18:35.59 | stoned | ccsm, not csm |
| 18:36.07 | jackweb | ccm (Python module) |
| 18:36.14 | stoned | ok |
| 18:36.45 | jackweb | ccm is required to run ccsm |
| 18:36.45 | jackweb | I'll remove and install again |
| 18:36.45 | jackweb | (it helped by gnome) |
| 18:36.45 | stoned | I dunno what the fuck a ccm is |
| 18:36.45 | stoned | now you know the problem, go fix it. |
| 18:36.52 | stoned | no need |
| 18:36.55 | stoned | let me check |
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| 18:37.27 | stoned | uhm dude whatever |
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| 18:38.13 | stoned | seriously what is a ccm? |
| 18:38.39 | stoned | are you even using debian? |
| 18:38.53 | jackweb | ImportError: No module named ccm |
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| 18:38.56 | jackweb | stoned: Lenny :) |
| 18:39.15 | stoned | dude |
| 18:39.15 | stoned | for the love of god |
| 18:39.17 | stoned | all you have to do is install the package and that sit |
| 18:39.23 | stoned | why areyo ufucking with modules? |
| 18:39.35 | stoned | what the fuck are you doing, you're aggrivating me now I'm gonna stop helping you. |
| 18:39.41 | stoned | quit bieng a weirdo. |
| 18:40.26 | jackweb | sorry :( |
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| 18:40.30 | Z4ndX^ | Hello .. |
| 18:40.38 | \amethyst | stoned: still undergoing THC withdrawal? |
| 18:40.43 | jackweb | I've already removed and installed ccsm again |
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| 18:40.51 | jackweb | it runs now correctly |
| 18:41.05 | stoned | \amethyst, low blow? |
| 18:41.07 | stoned | :/ |
| 18:41.14 | Z4ndX^ | Any body know how setup/configure my charset on my server? .. I want it to be ISO-8859-1 |
| 18:41.22 | jackweb | stoned: it was written the module is optional, but the program didn't run |
| 18:41.25 | stoned | I don't know you enough to tell if you're trying to start some shit orjust kidding. |
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| 18:41.48 | stoned | jackweb, well I have no idea which module or what program, all i know is i know your problem and i told you how to fix it |
| 18:42.04 | stoned | :) |
| 18:42.26 | jackweb | after reinstalling ccsm the problem disappeared |
| 18:42.47 | stoned | \amethyst, but I will give you the benefit of the doubt, no. I do not suffer from withdrawls, I suffer from a lack of patience. |
| 18:42.54 | Z4ndX^ | Its something like dpkg-reconfigure "something" |
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| 18:43.35 | stoned | Z4ndX^, charset? |
| 18:43.37 | stoned | meaning locale? |
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| 18:43.46 | stoned | Z4ndX^, dpkg-reconfigure locales? |
| 18:43.59 | Z4ndX^ | Thanks .. |
| 18:44.19 | stoned | or perhaps console-tools ? |
| 18:44.27 | stoned | er.. console-data |
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| 18:44.47 | stoned | maybe, maybe not |
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| 18:45.26 | jackweb | stoned: thank you for the help |
| 18:46.20 | zrin | how to tell init/mdadm not to stop the boot process when array degradation is detected? |
| 18:47.14 | hell-blues | off now |
| 18:47.26 | stoned | jackweb, you're welcome, I apologize for having been short |
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| 18:48.16 | jackweb | stoned: :) |
| 18:48.17 | jackweb | thanks :) |
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| 18:48.23 | stoned | so poland huh |
| 18:48.26 | jackweb | :) |
| 18:48.29 | jackweb | Poland, Poland :) |
| 18:48.30 | stoned | you like poland? |
| 18:48.33 | stoned | I like polish death metal |
| 18:48.36 | stoned | its nice |
| 18:48.40 | jackweb | uhm.. I like Poland |
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| 18:48.47 | jackweb | and don't listen to metal :> |
| 18:48.47 | stoned | Do poland have a DUG? |
| 18:48.50 | stoned | Debian User Gropu? |
| 18:48.54 | stoned | Group* |
| 18:48.58 | jackweb | yes, it has got |
| 18:48.59 | mordy | does |
| 18:49.03 | stoned | wicked |
| 18:49.14 | stoned | mordy, oh |
| 18:49.19 | stoned | sorry, I'm pakistani |
| 18:49.21 | stoned | my english sucks |
| 18:49.38 | mordy | isn't it an official language there? |
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| 18:49.51 | stoned | who knows, I just use it as an excuse ;) |
| 18:50.03 | mordy | pick a better one, like french |
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| 18:50.27 | stoned | no for real though, I speak very well. I just chose not to care so much on IRC, and yes its still not to a point where I can think in English |
| 18:50.31 | stew | stoned, jackweb, mordy: please take social conversations elsewhere, perhaps #debian-offtopic or #defocus |
| 18:50.40 | stoned | stew, ok |
| 18:50.50 | stoned | mordy, jackweb, you can come to #debian-chat ? |
| 18:50.56 | jackweb | yes |
| 18:50.59 | stoned | we can BS there |
| 18:51.02 | stoned | fantastic |
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| 18:51.09 | stoned | stew, sorry bro, will take care. |
| 18:51.35 | jackweb | sorry for my offtopic.. :) |
| 18:51.39 | jackweb | see you later |
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| 18:55.16 | jackweb | I'm again |
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| 18:57.37 | stoned | hi |
| 18:57.41 | stoned | need help again? |
| 18:57.51 | jackweb | uhm... |
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| 18:58.06 | Caino | hi |
| 18:58.10 | jackweb | when I used Ubuntu, I could use alt + TAB and super + TAB |
| 18:58.11 | stoned | hello |
| 18:58.20 | stoned | jackweb, you have to configure compiz |
| 18:58.32 | jackweb | what kind of plugin have I to turn on? |
| 18:58.33 | stoned | jackweb, now its time to go to #compiz-fusion |
| 18:58.36 | Caino | someone know how to configure ipv6 for domX virtual machines with xen?? |
| 18:58.37 | Caino | :\ |
| 18:58.38 | stoned | we don't know |
| 18:58.50 | jackweb | stoned: ok, thanks :) |
| 18:58.51 | stoned | Caino, sure someone probably does |
| 18:59.11 | Caino | ...uhm... someone..who? :P |
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| 19:00.17 | stoned | not I |
| 19:00.24 | stoned | said stoned. |
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| 19:05.11 | jackweb | good bye ;) |
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| 19:09.44 | Ace2016_- | Hi, how would i go about moving hard drives and at the same time switch from XFS to EXT3 i must have the ability to shrink and expand the root partition |
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| 19:17.58 | sackhacker | hello |
| 19:18.12 | sackhacker | is anyone of you familar with the latex environment on debian? |
| 19:18.46 | nvz | mmmm latex |
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| 19:19.39 | twobitsprite | sackhacker: do you have a specific question? |
| 19:19.41 | keith4 | kinky |
| 19:20.02 | sackhacker | yes i got: %&-line parsing enabled |
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| 19:20.20 | sackhacker | what is that and is it possible to disable this? |
| 19:20.44 | sackhacker | why do i not get this as root? |
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| 19:21.22 | twobitsprite | sackhacker: hmm... you might have better luck in #latex |
| 19:21.36 | stoned | nvz, ! |
| 19:21.39 | sackhacker | oh such a channel exists! fine |
| 19:21.43 | nvz | yo |
| 19:21.45 | nvz | shutting down.. :-P |
| 19:21.46 | twobitsprite | :) |
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| 19:21.50 | stoned | awww |
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| 19:21.51 | nvz | or am i.. |
| 19:21.53 | stoned | where you off to? |
| 19:22.00 | nvz | nowhere |
| 19:22.06 | nvz | was just gonna go back to windblows |
| 19:22.17 | stoned | ahh |
| 19:22.19 | nvz | but apparently the shutdown doesnt work cause I'm not actually using gnome |
| 19:22.23 | nvz | it just killed gnome-panel |
| 19:22.25 | nvz | heh |
| 19:22.26 | stoned | heh |
| 19:22.31 | stoned | sudo shutdown -r now? |
| 19:22.38 | stoned | or sudo reboot |
| 19:22.39 | stoned | ? |
| 19:22.50 | nvz | well its a good thing it didn't shutdown cause I am in the middle of talking now |
| 19:22.56 | stoned | heh |
| 19:23.00 | nvz | I just had to use "the blue button" |
| 19:23.16 | nvz | and the last step seems to remove my bootloader for some reason |
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| 19:23.39 | stoned | hm |
| 19:23.44 | stoned | remove your bootloader? |
| 19:23.45 | stoned | wtf |
| 19:24.16 | nvz | well the IBM thinkpad has an "Access IBM" button you press when it turns on to access the onboard features and to restore |
| 19:24.23 | nvz | it doesn't fuck with the linux partition |
| 19:24.31 | nvz | just seems to remove the bootloader |
| 19:24.37 | nvz | I just booted debian to fix it |
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| 19:24.52 | nvz | got some kind of trojan or something on windows |
| 19:25.21 | nvz | it was spawning IE processes that didnt show up on the screen and they were connecting to some chinese site and streaming audio through my speakers in chinese |
| 19:25.23 | brian___ | hi, I have a CIDR range listed in hosts.deny but I am still getting IP's in that range in my apache logs |
| 19:25.56 | brian___ | does hosts.deny not support CIDR? |
| 19:26.37 | mythomaniac | theoretically i should be able to d/l a debian live cd and be able to mount my crypted partition that was created by LUKS from install cd? |
| 19:27.06 | nvz | what did it use, truecrypt? |
| 19:27.27 | mythomaniac | nvzdm-luks from the debian install cd |
| 19:27.32 | mythomaniac | nvz dm-luks from the debian install cd |
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| 19:27.50 | nvz | no idea what that is |
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| 19:28.00 | nvz | !dm-luks |
| 19:28.14 | Eulex | !luks |
| 19:28.14 | dpkg | somebody said luks was cryptsetup with luks support: "http://einsteinmg.dyndns.org/debian/". LUKS is a secure way to store key's for a cryptopartition. See http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/469 and google 'LUKS Debian' for more info |
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| 19:29.20 | mythomaniac | i mean i should be able to mount it right, from a live cd given that i have the key-pass code |
| 19:29.20 | nvz | oh well, back to windows.. got shit to uninstall, shit to install.. blah.. |
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| 19:30.22 | mythomaniac | either way i guess i'll find out in about 20 mins ;) |
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| 19:35.33 | johndoe | i guess there was a major change in kernel 2.6.27, since most of the stuff wont compile without new patches :/ |
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| 19:38.24 | ygetartson | Hi, is it possible to influence color depth of the terminal? (ctrl-alt-fN) |
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| 19:39.37 | johndoe | ygetartson: how much do you want |
| 19:40.09 | tone_ | apt-get doesnt find xchat |
| 19:41.04 | tone_ | or something else |
| 19:41.14 | nkuttler | tone_: ? |
| 19:41.15 | tone_ | it worked whit firefox |
| 19:41.38 | tone_ | i cant install xchat or pidgin |
| 19:41.51 | johndoe | tone_: check your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 19:41.57 | tone_ | i did |
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| 19:42.14 | nkuttler | tone_: paste it, /msg dpkg paste |
| 19:42.16 | ygetartson | johndoe: I don't know how much I have, but vim's color schemes don't work well. |
| 19:42.42 | ygetartson | can I have 16bit? |
| 19:42.50 | craigevil | tone_: what release are you running? not sure about xchat but etch has gaim, its called pidgin in testing and sid |
| 19:46.34 | ygetartson | gonna try something in the framebuffer. |
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| 19:47.36 | tone_ | debian 4.0 xfce |
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| 19:49.13 | asdzxc | hi |
| 19:49.17 | asdzxc | is there any lm-sensors console monitor ? |
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| 19:49.22 | asdzxc | something like hddtemp |
| 19:49.27 | asdzxc | but also for processor and so on |
| 19:49.33 | Sadist | lm-sensors |
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| 19:49.47 | asdzxc | Sadist and the command name ? |
| 19:49.52 | Sadist | apt-get install lm-sensors |
| 19:49.57 | Sadist | sensors-detect |
| 19:50.07 | asdzxc | but it can't display temperatures |
| 19:50.09 | Sadist | after that load modules and type sensors |
| 19:50.12 | asdzxc | i want something like hddtemp |
| 19:50.18 | asdzxc | w8 a sec |
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| 19:50.31 | asdzxc | No sensors found! |
| 19:50.42 | asdzxc | i have monolitic kernel |
| 19:50.47 | asdzxc | i don't use modules |
| 19:50.51 | Sadist | oh |
| 19:51.00 | asdzxc | and i have everything compiled in |
| 19:51.03 | Mike0x0 | I'm trying to mount my USB thumb drive so it's writable to my non-root user. When I try to do so using [mount /dev/sdb1 /media/red -o gid=100,umask=002] I get: EXT3-fs: Unrecognized mount option "gid=100" or missing value. Does anyone know why? |
| 19:51.06 | asdzxc | hddtemp works for example |
| 19:51.11 | amphi | asdzxc: acpi will show some temps |
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| 19:52.25 | asdzxc | No support for device type: thermal :) |
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| 19:53.14 | Sadist | enable modules, compile lm-sensors modules and have fun |
| 19:53.43 | Sadist | monolythic kernel suck sometimes |
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| 19:53.47 | asdzxc | hah :)) |
| 19:53.48 | asdzxc | why ? |
| 19:53.57 | asdzxc | i have them on all servers |
| 19:54.07 | asdzxc | i don't need modules |
| 19:54.21 | asdzxc | and it's much safer like this |
| 19:54.24 | Sadist | if you change piece of harware it mean's recompile :) |
| 19:54.24 | amphi | well, you need to build in the stuff you, er, need |
| 19:54.47 | asdzxc | but i have thermal compiled in |
| 19:54.58 | asdzxc | Processor -> Thermal Zone |
| 19:55.04 | asdzxc | in menuconfig |
| 19:55.08 | amphi | /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/ exists? |
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| 19:55.28 | asdzxc | yes but it's empty |
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| 19:55.46 | stew | asdzxc: yeah, it's saying your hardware doesn't report cpu temperature via acpi |
| 19:55.51 | Sadist | safe = no network, no power :-D |
| 19:55.55 | stew | asdzxc: not that your kernel doesn't support reading it |
| 19:55.59 | Sadist | no users also :) |
| 19:56.02 | pzn | is there any deb package that can show me imap folders usage? my mbox is full in ISP and it would be great to know which folders use more bytes... |
| 19:56.23 | asdzxc | Sadist ?? you looks like a big security expert to me.. |
| 19:56.24 | stew | Sadist: he's correct in saying that running a kernel with no loadable module support it safer than running one with loadable module support |
| 19:57.11 | asdzxc | stew hm, so what should i do now ? any ideas how to get lm-sensors work ? |
| 19:57.12 | Sadist | stew: i see, but this is his problem, not debian :) |
| 19:57.20 | stew | Sadist: this isn't a problem at all |
| 19:57.23 | asdzxc | Sadist where i said it's a debian problem ? |
| 19:57.36 | Sadist | nevermind |
| 19:57.42 | Sadist | hides :) |
| 19:57.43 | asdzxc | Sadist i'm just asking _how_ can i get it work |
| 19:57.52 | stew | Sadist: his problem with acpi has nothing to do with his kernel |
| 19:58.23 | asdzxc | stew do you have any ideas how can i find our processors temperature ? |
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| 19:58.45 | stew | asdzxc: 'try lm-sensors' |
| 19:58.58 | Sadist | :))) |
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| 19:59.05 | asdzxc | stew they are saying there's no sensors found |
| 19:59.15 | asdzxc | stew but i have i2c support |
| 20:00.11 | asdzxc | device /dev/i2c-0 exists |
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| 20:04.11 | ryanCH | when i terminate X, it starts up again, how do i keep it closed? |
| 20:04.25 | ryanCH | i just need to get to the text based console |
| 20:04.31 | ryanCH | without X running |
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| 20:04.37 | stew | ryanCH: /etc/init.d/?dm stop |
| 20:04.51 | stew | ryanCH: if you never want X to be started automatically, /msg dpkg nodm |
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| 20:05.29 | ryanCH | so i just type that in the console? |
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| 20:06.59 | stew | ryanCH: '/etc/init.d/?dm stop' or '/etc/init.d/gdm stop' should stop X. if you want to never have it start automatically, type "/msg dpkg nodm" into irc to get information on how to do that |
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| 20:07.26 | ryanCH | ok |
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| 20:08.44 | ryanCH | thanks |
| 20:08.47 | ryanCH | :) |
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| 20:09.20 | ryanCH | brb |
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| 20:10.15 | cr3 | when I run dpkg -i on a file which happens to be an upgrade of an old version already installed, it seems like dpkg is performing a remove/install instead of an upgrade... ie, $2 is not set to the previous version in postinst |
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| 20:13.08 | qhartman | I'm trying to use wondershaper to limit BW on an Etch box, and it's not working. The traffic dips for a second, then returns right back to it's previous level and stays there. Anyone else seen this? |
| 20:14.00 | dtcrshr | how do i create a new pppoe connection? i got debian etch |
| 20:14.18 | dtcrshr | but my network manager gots only the connection, not a button to add one |
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| 20:17.35 | ryanCH | one more problem i just noticed, when i terminate with the "gdm stop", the monitor stay blank and it stops getting a signal, why is this?... |
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| 20:18.30 | Kobaz | is there a php package i can install that does not have suhosin |
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| 20:19.35 | hoxu | ryanCH, broken drivers perhaps |
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| 20:20.19 | Artificialsynaps | Question |
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| 20:20.48 | Artificialsynaps | I have an NFS running between a poweredge server and my regular box both are running on debian |
| 20:21.11 | Artificialsynaps | Whenever I do file transfers it stalls periodically but then it picks back up again |
| 20:21.42 | Artificialsynaps | fstab looks like this : nfs rsize=4096,wsize=4096,nolock,proto=udp 0 0 |
| 20:21.55 | ryanCH | hoxu: i'm trying to install the nvidia drivers from a package, but it says the X server cannot be running |
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| 20:22.12 | pzn | is there any package that can show me usage stats per imap folder? |
| 20:22.24 | ryanCH | this is the whole purpose of me trying to end the X server |
| 20:22.32 | Artificialsynaps | And my exports looks like this : (rw,sync,no_subtree_check) |
| 20:22.39 | Artificialsynaps | Thanks for your help in advance : P |
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| 20:23.57 | ryanCH | hoxu: any ideas? |
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| 20:25.20 | hoxu | ryanCH, ssh in from a remote box, stop gdm, install nvidia, start gdm :p |
| 20:25.31 | ryanCH | lol |
| 20:25.50 | Artificialsynaps | you need to stop GDM |
| 20:25.56 | ryanCH | that's actually a good idea ;p |
| 20:26.47 | Artificialsynaps | ctrl alt f1 login as root then type /etc/init.d/gdm stop |
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| 20:27.03 | Artificialsynaps | go to the directory your nvdiai bin file is at |
| 20:27.10 | Artificialsynaps | Then ./nvidia* |
| 20:27.20 | Artificialsynaps | run the setup and then start up gdm again with /etc/init.d/gdm start |
| 20:27.34 | ryanCH | my monitor will work still right? |
| 20:27.38 | Artificialsynaps | No |
| 20:27.45 | Artificialsynaps | Everything you have open will close |
| 20:27.52 | Artificialsynaps | when you stop GDM |
| 20:28.18 | ryanCH | well when i stop gdm, my monitor stops getting a signal |
| 20:28.24 | Artificialsynaps | Yeah |
| 20:28.33 | Artificialsynaps | Then you need to run the nvidia setup file |
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| 20:28.50 | Artificialsynaps | Oh wait.. it stops working at all? |
| 20:28.58 | stew | ryanCH: try hitting ctrl-alt-f1 or ctrl-alt-f2 or so to see if you get to a text console |
| 20:29.00 | lawstudent | can i download a pkg onto sd card. and then install elsewhere? |
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| 20:29.14 | ryanCH | ok |
| 20:29.18 | ryanCH | i'll have to reboot |
| 20:29.31 | Artificialsynaps | Shouldn't have to |
| 20:29.50 | ryanCH | well i'm running windows currently the linux partition on the same HD ;P |
| 20:29.51 | stew | lawstudent: yes, you might want to look at apt-zip |
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| 20:30.05 | Artificialsynaps | Oohh okay |
| 20:30.06 | Artificialsynaps | Good luck |
| 20:30.10 | ryanCH | :) |
| 20:30.12 | ryanCH | thanks |
| 20:30.16 | ryanCH | brb |
| 20:30.22 | lawstudent | i need to install a pkg on a comp without internet connecttion |
| 20:30.45 | Artificialsynaps | What package? |
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| 20:32.00 | dtcrshr | hm.. i got no pppoeconf on my debian fresh install |
| 20:32.00 | lawstudent | libertas-firmware <--- Artificialsynaps . for my comp's net acccess |
| 20:32.21 | dtcrshr | is there other way to put it on the web to get it? |
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| 20:33.28 | adb | dtcrshr: aptitude install pppoeconf |
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| 20:33.39 | DragoraN | hi guys |
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| 20:34.02 | DragoraN | would you recommend SELinux or/and grsecurity on webhosting server? |
| 20:34.08 | doudou | enouf, you know what? |
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| 20:34.34 | JoshH | DragoraN: i've had grsec on hosting servers with no problems |
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| 20:35.15 | dtcrshr | um. it worked, but iv saw another issue |
| 20:35.25 | dtcrshr | the user iv created is not a sudoer, ill google about it |
| 20:35.47 | doudou | my sound card was simply disabled in the bios, i cant understand why linux is not able to overcome something simply disabled in the bios |
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| 20:36.29 | DragoraN | JoshH: any troubles with configuration? |
| 20:36.32 | doudou | anyway, i said so many stupidities about asus? strange |
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| 20:36.41 | DragoraN | JoshH: can i pm? |
| 20:36.55 | JoshH | i'm gonna be afk for a while actually |
| 20:36.58 | JoshH | but no, no troubles |
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| 21:02.09 | dtcrshr | hm.. now iv seen that i got a debian for amd64, ans installed on my intel |
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| 21:02.30 | dtcrshr | is there a tiny install that i can manage through an usb stick, so the installation goes throuhg internet?> |
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| 21:05.32 | ryanCH | still no luck :( |
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| 21:05.42 | ryanCH | the monitor still stays blank with no signal |
| 21:05.54 | jackweb | configuring xorg-server? |
| 21:06.25 | ryanCH | well, when i terminate X, the screen stays blank with no signal |
| 21:06.37 | ryanCH | it's supposed to show a text based console |
| 21:07.53 | edvinm | hi. is there a easy way to keep track of the amount bandwidth traffic that is used? like per day? (tcp, icmp, udp in GB, MB..) |
| 21:08.25 | jackweb | edvinm: good question, but I don't know the answer :) |
| 21:09.34 | edvinm | jackweb: =) I've been googling too. can't find anything that suits my needs. the best thing would be a ticking widget attached to the desktop or something. |
| 21:10.13 | MoRLoCh | edvinm: you could use vnstat, if I understand your question |
| 21:10.23 | jackweb | would you like maybe create your own server? |
| 21:10.40 | Sling | vnstat++ |
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| 21:11.24 | edvinm | MoRLoCh: I need something that is counting my internet traffic, in mb and gb... |
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| 21:11.36 | edvinm | vntstat then... ill check it out. |
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| 21:12.13 | MoRLoCh | edvinm: yes, but that's too generic of a request, so I'd say vnstat would be the generic answer :) |
| 21:12.34 | dtcrshr | hm.. iv installed debian with a amd64 distro, in a intel machine. so it didnt detected all my hardware. but now iv managed to put another eth card, and connect it. is there a way to change the kernel headers for my machine, or ill need to do a fresh install? |
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| 21:14.28 | dtcrshr | can i do this through synaptic? |
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| 21:15.18 | edvinm | vnstat seem to be right up my alley, console too! sweet! |
| 21:15.47 | mordy | well, changing from EXA to XAA solves my problem |
| 21:15.55 | mordy | but i don't know why i'd need to do that on a new intel |
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| 21:16.41 | dtcrshr | i got no sound, or network |
| 21:16.50 | dtcrshr | the onboard hardware was not detected |
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| 21:19.07 | pobega | When I try connect to an AP using the regular networking daemon it doesn't work, dhcp just times out. But when I use "wifi-radar" it does -- Anyone know of a reason for this? And perhaps, a fix? |
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| 21:25.01 | kd8ikt | you dont use the gnome |
| 21:25.16 | kd8ikt | sudo NetworkManager |
| 21:25.32 | kd8ikt | love that lil panel app |
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| 21:26.55 | dtcrshr | iv got an intel dual core e2160 1.8ghz, wich distro is the best for me? |
| 21:26.56 | dtcrshr | [alpha][amd64][arm][hppa][i386][ia64][mips][mipsel][powerpc][sparc][s390][source][multi-arch] |
| 21:27.04 | pobega | kd8ikt: No, I don't even have a taskbar so it'd be kinda pointless for me to run that |
| 21:27.22 | Assid | dtcrshr: i386 |
| 21:27.24 | pobega | dtcrshr: Your choice, i386 or amd64. |
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| 21:27.38 | pobega | I think that's a 64 bit processor, not 100% sure. |
| 21:27.54 | Eulex | dtcrshr, desktop or server? |
| 21:28.03 | dtcrshr | [pobega]: actually, iv installed an amd64 dvd on this machine |
| 21:28.10 | dtcrshr | ill use it at home, desktop |
| 21:28.22 | Eulex | dtcrshr, then I recommend i386 |
| 21:28.22 | dtcrshr | i wanna edit videos, audio... looking for the best performance, maybe a rt kernel |
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| 21:28.39 | eptalon | heyas |
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| 21:29.18 | dtcrshr | [Eulex]: im concerned if i did wrong using this amd64 disk, cause it didnt detected the audio and eth onboard |
| 21:29.22 | eptalon | can you suggest an image previewer; which ideally take a directory, and then can do something like a slideshow? |
| 21:29.34 | pobega | eptalon: I use gqview |
| 21:29.43 | shriven | Hello. I am trying to configure sudo so that users that have sudo cannot modify the /etc/sudoers file. Does anyone have any advice on this? |
| 21:30.00 | dtcrshr | hm.. they may use visudo |
| 21:30.13 | eptalon | pobega: will try, thanks. |
| 21:30.16 | dtcrshr | u can change the permissionn oh the sudoers file |
| 21:30.28 | dtcrshr | or something |
| 21:30.29 | pobega | dtcrshr: Yeah but it will still be accessable by 'root' |
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| 21:30.54 | dtcrshr | [pobega]: yeah.. sorry |
| 21:30.54 | dtcrshr | ahueuhae |
| 21:31.04 | shriven | dtcrshr: /etc/sudoers is already read only for root, but when you sudo you get root power so you can still modify it |
| 21:32.27 | dtcrshr | nevermind my crappy suggestion. |
| 21:32.41 | shriven | np, it was my first thought to... |
| 21:32.42 | shriven | : ( |
| 21:33.18 | dtcrshr | im in the mood of typing |
| 21:33.31 | shriven | my confusion is that even if I disallow usage of visudo, chmod and chown through sudo, I can still do sudo vim /etc/sudoers and the just :wq! to overide the read only setting. |
| 21:34.04 | dtcrshr | well. iv seen that the amd64 kernel also works fine for intel machines with em64t. ill let this distro, and install the drivers by hand. |
| 21:34.10 | amphi | shriven: why not specify the programs they can use? |
| 21:34.16 | dtcrshr | or 64 distros are still with issues on applications? |
| 21:35.14 | shriven | amphi: I could certainly do that but these particular users will need to do a lot... all I really want to do is restrict them from changing root password, but if I give them sudo then I can't keep them from changing it unless I restrict passwd and their ability to edit sudoers |
| 21:35.39 | cr3 | how can I search the debconf keys/values? |
| 21:35.41 | shriven | I am quite confused honestly at how it is possible to simple sudo vim /etc/sudoers and change privileges |
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| 21:35.57 | shriven | I feel that I must be missing something obvious in my configuration. |
| 21:36.08 | jackweb | don't use vim, use visudo |
| 21:36.21 | jackweb | it's better to edit /etc/sudoers |
| 21:36.29 | jackweb | by that program |
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| 21:38.25 | jackweb | I'm leaving, bye |
| 21:38.25 | shriven | jackweb: I am not concerned with the proper way to edit it, I am concerned with what a user could do. |
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| 21:38.55 | dtcrshr | thansk guys! gotta go |
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| 21:39.44 | cr3 | if I corrupted an install and I'm not getting: Not replacing deleted config file... how can I rectify the debconf database (I think), so that the package installs properly again? |
| 21:40.01 | Seb | cr3: apt-get install --reinstall it ? |
| 21:40.05 | Seb | cr3: or dpkg-reconfigure it |
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| 21:40.43 | stew | cr3: /msg dpkg confmiss |
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| 21:42.42 | cr3 | stew: might there be a way to translate that command for dpkg, considering I'm installing a package I'm trying to get right on my filesystem |
| 21:43.19 | stew | cr3: yes, with --force-confmiss |
| 21:44.10 | cr3 | stew: excellent, I didn't quite understand from dpkg but after re-reading the private message, it was clear indeed. sorry about that |
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| 21:45.25 | stew | cr3: no problem :) |
| 21:45.42 | CoolCold | hello guys |
| 21:46.00 | CoolCold | does anyone have server with 100 requests/sec and upper? |
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| 21:46.40 | CoolCold | need server with lot of connections in /proc/net/tcp6 |
| 21:46.41 | CoolCold | bla |
| 21:46.45 | CoolCold | need server with lot of connections in /proc/net/tcp |
| 21:47.14 | buu | Install bittorrent |
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| 21:48.03 | _KaszpiR_ | depend on request type |
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| 21:48.50 | cr3 | so I have a broken package and when I try to dpkg-reconfigure, I get that the package is broken or not fully installed. and, when I dpkg -l, I see that the package is "ic". what should I try to diagnose the problem? |
| 21:48.50 | CoolCold | just need simple test |
| 21:48.51 | CoolCold | dd if=/proc/net/tcp bs=16k 1>/dev/null |
| 21:49.15 | CoolCold | i have around 200kb/sec reading from /proc/net/tcp |
| 21:49.23 | CoolCold | one mane has 2mb/sec |
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| 21:49.26 | CoolCold | *man |
| 21:49.32 | CoolCold | but on rhel |
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| 22:00.51 | EnQLey_ | lol wate zeg clutche ? |
| 22:01.22 | EnQLey_ | fran fran zugulute ? |
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| 22:02.03 | cr3 | after calling dpkg --force-confmiss -i foo.pkg, I'm still getting: Not replacing deleted config file... |
| 22:02.30 | EnQLey_ | --f dumping dpkg -i -o foo.pkg |
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| 22:03.19 | EnQLey_ | mv cr3 /dev/null |
| 22:03.29 | netsrot | How do I pair a bluetooth phone with my debian etch pc using CLI? I have used hcitool search and found it. |
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| 22:04.19 | EnQLey_ | Yes, put your bluetooth and wiimote, in your ass, and make ./config && make clean waterzouille |
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| 22:05.22 | craigevil | most of the apps you need to use a wiimote are in the debian repos |
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| 22:05.47 | ttuttle | Hey, has anyone run Debian on a Lenovo X200? |
| 22:05.59 | smacnay | Are the Gnome desktop widgets called desklets or gdesklets? |
| 22:06.18 | EnQLey_ | http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~johnny/projects/wii/ for debian zotega |
| 22:06.25 | netsrot | EnQLey_: that didn't help =) |
| 22:06.37 | EnQLey_ | blutut ? |
| 22:06.49 | netsrot | yes |
| 22:07.15 | EnQLey_ | whell after my cofe pot, i call back you. |
| 22:07.51 | EnQLey_ | first i need to install my box debian shitinkoff |
| 22:08.23 | EnQLey_ | dual 32bits |
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| 22:08.56 | EnQLey_ | and ipv12 |
| 22:10.00 | cr3 | darn, even --force-all still doesn't create the deleted configuration file :( |
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| 22:10.17 | stew | cr3: which config file? |
| 22:10.19 | Flaw | debian server or ubuntu server? |
| 22:10.23 | EnQLey_ | you know ipv12 ? it's a blutut technologi, with two godasse in the face of bush --escive --shoes 42. |
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| 22:10.34 | stew | EnQLey_: please stop |
| 22:10.55 | Flaw | hello, stew :) |
| 22:10.56 | EnQLey_ | wooth is that " stop " ? |
| 22:11.12 | stew | EnQLey_: please keep it on-topic. did you have a debian question? |
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| 22:11.19 | EnQLey_ | yes |
| 22:11.34 | EnQLey_ | all my question is for debian |
| 22:11.35 | stew | EnQLey_: please ask it, and keep the nonsense chatter somewhere else |
| 22:11.59 | EnQLey_ | how to come back my bycicle ? |
| 22:12.01 | cr3 | stew: my package is supposed to install a file under /etc and I deleted it after purging my package, because I'm in the process of testing my package. now, every time I try to install it, some database is telling dpkg to not replace the deleted config file |
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| 22:12.24 | cr3 | stew: I tried --force-confmiss, --force-all and dpkg-reconfigure --force too |
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| 22:12.54 | EnQLey_ | because bad programmer take my bycicle, like second life delet object, but in my real life, my bycicle it's deleted you understand or not ? |
| 22:13.11 | stew | cr3: are you sure you are reinstalling the correct package? does 'dpkg -S' say that this package owns the file? is the file listed in /var/lib/dpkg/info/packagename.conffiles or packagename.md5sums ? |
| 22:13.12 | cr3 | stew: I wouldn't mind understanding this deeper as well, beyond just making it work this time. is this information stored in the debconf database? |
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| 22:13.44 | stew | EnQLey_: you've been silenced for 10 minutes for being off-topic, please try to stay on-topic in the future |
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| 22:14.12 | stew | cr3: no, not in the debconf database |
| 22:14.20 | wez | is it possible to rename sda3 to sda2 in the partition table? |
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| 22:14.58 | cr3 | stew: hm, the file is in none of those paths you provided. the problem might be that I'm using ucf to generate the file |
| 22:16.18 | cr3 | stew: thanks for those paths under /var/lib/dpkg/info, that helps understand part of what's going on. I like to see those md5sums, that probably means I can verify if a system has been compromised for example |
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| 22:18.26 | cr3 | stew: I tried calling ucf directly from the command line, ucf /tmp/foo /etc/foo.conf, expecting that to return the same error message I've been getting. unfortunately, I got: Creating config file |
| 22:18.52 | cr3 | stew: so, I thought I was getting somewhere by isolating the problem to ucf but I seem to be wrong :( |
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| 22:19.38 | cr3 | stew: or maybe I was indeed on the right path because I am seeing "Not replacing deleted config file" in the ucf script |
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| 22:21.29 | MoRLoCh | cr3: I am not an expert with ucf, but shouldn't you get a .ucf-dist file in such cases? |
| 22:21.35 | cr3 | stew: aha! so it seems that force-confmiss is not being passed from my postinst script to my call to ucf! |
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| 22:23.26 | stew | cr3: yeah, --force-confmiss is for conffiles, and it doens't sound like these are conffiles |
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| 22:24.34 | cr3 | stew: but ucf seems to support similar arguments although, from the source, ucf seems to call it "conffmiss" with two f's :( |
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| 22:25.25 | stew | cr3: i'm not sure how this situation is supposed to be handled, you might check the debian developer's reference |
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| 22:25.30 | cr3 | it would be nice for my call to ucf in postinst to inherit the arguments passed to dpkg, I can't possibly be the only person with this need |
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| 22:26.13 | yasser202 | welcome all |
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| 22:26.32 | yasser202 | how can i mount nwfs id 65 |
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| 22:26.52 | yasser202 | novell netware file system |
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| 22:27.50 | Bigshot_ | can anyone give me a helping hand in searching for tools to control the brightness of my sony vaio fz240e laptop thank you. |
| 22:27.53 | Garda | need help with something |
| 22:28.04 | Garda | i signed up to the debian-devel mailing list |
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| 22:28.11 | Garda | and now i keep getting bug reports |
| 22:28.19 | Garda | is this supposed to happen? |
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| 22:31.03 | Bigshot_ | i am using etchnhalf kernel |
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| 22:31.32 | cr3 | stew: I just found the option --debconf-ok to ucf, which might do the trick |
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| 22:33.53 | stew | Garda: ITPs are CCed there by default, is that what you are seeing? |
| 22:33.54 | ice799 | Hi - I am using Debian Etch 64bit with the nfs-kernel-server package from apt. It seems that the default behavior of nfsd is to listen on all available interfaces. I'd like to tell nfsd to only listed on one specific NIC instead of all of the, |
| 22:34.01 | ice799 | Is there an easy way to do this in debian? |
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| 22:34.15 | stew | ice799: edit /etc/default/portmap |
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| 22:34.49 | Bigshot_ | stew can you help me out bud i am googling for ages now ... |
| 22:35.08 | Serraphyn | I installed vnc4server but I do xvnc4viewer :1 |
| 22:35.14 | Garda | stew: yea, it's probably that |
| 22:35.16 | Garda | thanks |
| 22:35.17 | Bigshot_ | even though kernel has sonypi module i can't control the brightness |
| 22:35.18 | Serraphyn | Connection is refused |
| 22:35.23 | Garda | just wanted to know what it was i was getting |
| 22:35.28 | stew | Bigshot_: i've never used a sony laptop before, sorry |
| 22:35.32 | rgr | anyone here running a flavour of Debian on a solid state netbook? If so, how do you find it and would you recommend it? |
| 22:35.37 | ice799 | stew: OK, I'll check that out but it seems that nfsd has a command line option you can pass to tell it to listen only on a specific nic if you want |
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| 22:35.59 | ice799 | stew: which is why I figured if I mess with the init script i can just append the option i need to the call to start-stop-daemon |
| 22:36.22 | ice799 | stew: sorry for my ignorance here, but why will changing that option for portmap make any difference? |
| 22:36.46 | stew | ice799: nfs calls go through portmap |
| 22:36.54 | stew | ice799: are you runing the userspace server or the kernel server? |
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| 22:37.53 | ice799 | stew: kernel server |
| 22:38.02 | stew | ice799: then there is no nfsd |
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| 22:38.16 | stew | is there? |
| 22:38.21 | ice799 | stew: hmm but it seems there is a userland app running, at least ps claims that nfsd is running |
| 22:38.36 | stew | ice799: check config |
| 22:38.41 | ice799 | which, now that i think about it seems weird |
| 22:38.44 | stew | err, check /etc/default/nfs-kernel-server |
| 22:38.52 | ice799 | stew: yeah i took a look at it before |
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| 22:39.07 | ice799 | stew: that is what i was thinking about modifying, but it is sort of painful |
| 22:39.41 | stew | ice799: is there a reason you can't just limit which interfaces portmap listens on? |
| 22:40.02 | ice799 | stew: no i can do that, i guess it wasnt clear to me that by doing that |
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| 22:40.19 | ice799 | it will also mean that portmap will assign the interface too? i thought portmap only assigned port numbers |
| 22:40.22 | cr3 | stew: I guess the only workaround is to use UCF_FORCE_CONFFMISS environment variable in addition to --force-confmiss :( |
| 22:40.45 | stew | ice799: well if you cannot talk to portmap, you won't be able to talk to nfs |
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| 22:41.20 | ice799 | stew: sorry for my ignorance here again, but why not? I mean nfsd still opens ports on all interfaces |
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| 22:41.43 | ice799 | stew: it seems like a bug in NFS or whatever could still leave me vulnerable to getting rooted |
| 22:42.02 | ice799 | stew: so if I can make NFS only open ports on the local NIC, it is an extra layer of protection |
| 22:42.17 | marcio | hi all. I created a simple 2D shooting game and I would like to release it at the official apt-get repository. What is the protocol for that? |
| 22:42.28 | stew | ice799: what ports does nfsd open? |
| 22:42.51 | stew | marcio: you want to package it yourself, or you are hoping that someone else would package it? |
| 22:42.52 | ice799 | stew: well nmap claims that port 2049 is open |
| 22:43.18 | marcio | stew: never created a package but I guess I can learn it ;) |
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| 22:43.43 | stew | ice799: http://wiki.debian.org/?SecuringNFS |
| 22:44.16 | stew | marcio: if you intend to package it yourself, file an 'ITP' bug (/msg dpkg itp). a packaging tutorial is available: /msg dpkg nmg |
| 22:44.51 | marcio | thanks! |
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| 22:45.14 | ice799 | stew: yep already seen that -- mostly it avoids talking about forcing nfs to bind to a local interace |
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| 22:46.36 | inspiria | wonders if someone is doing "nick squatting" now on freenode |
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| 22:53.55 | dcnoye | which mta is lightweight ? |
| 22:54.09 | twobitsprite | I'd stick with exim |
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| 22:55.09 | Tramp | ice799: as far as I can see, the init script takes the "$RPCNFSDCOUNT" (8 by default) from /etc/default/nfs-kernel-server - so you might be able to smuggle in the "-H" option by setting this to "8 -H ...." |
| 22:55.27 | johndoe | where does debian store its last used resolution? (Xorg, gnome) |
| 22:55.56 | dcnoye | thanks |
| 22:57.23 | inspiria | msmtp is really lite |
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| 22:57.47 | norc | Uhm, Im looking for a simple way to grab a screenshot (preferrably with a delay) |
| 22:58.29 | enouf | norc: well, ksnapshot, if you use kde, or use import from the gimp? |
| 22:58.33 | inspiria | import -window root screenshot.png |
| 22:58.37 | Tramp | !screenshot |
| 22:58.37 | dpkg | To take a screenshot of your current desktop, you can probably just hit the "PrintScreen" key on your keyboard (Gnome and KDE). Alternatives include ksnapshot, gnome-panel-screenshot, the Gimp's "Acquire->Screenshot", "import -window root screenshot.jpg" (imagemagick package), scrot (scrot package), xwd. |
| 22:58.39 | norc | inspiria: thanks :) |
| 22:58.47 | twobitsprite | norc: http://tips.webdesign10.com/how-to-take-a-screenshot-in-linux-gnome-revisited |
| 22:58.56 | enouf | er imagemagick |
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| 22:59.15 | twobitsprite | damn, everyone else beat me to it |
| 22:59.23 | norc | enouf: yeah, I know imagemagick contains import |
| 22:59.25 | norc | but thanks :) |
| 22:59.34 | norc | Just forgot all about it for a second there. |
| 22:59.37 | enouf | now, i remember as well :-P |
| 22:59.41 | norc | :) |
| 23:00.16 | enouf | but imagemagick is considered part (a small subset) of the gimp, no? |
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| 23:00.23 | norc | You know, I was looking for a set of tiles that apparently only Gentoo supplies. But I forgot the name of the package. Do you know what kind of pain it is not to have an equivalent to apt-file? *ugh* |
| 23:00.38 | norc | enouf: well, apparently not |
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| 23:01.00 | enouf | what the heck do i know ... |
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| 23:01.26 | norc | heh |
| 23:01.33 | Mxldr | !bitchx |
| 23:01.33 | dpkg | BitchX is an old and unmaintained IRC client built on epic and ircII. As a Debian package, screwed up and not falling back to IPv4 when IPv6 ain't possible. It's not as good as <irssi> and needs less moronic /quit messages. If you are an irssi user who is annoyed by said /quit messages, see <bitchxignore>. Abandoned by upstream, removed from Debian to resolve bug #451373. |
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| 23:02.36 | inspiria | can any recommend a lightweight, easy to manage, foss content management system? |
| 23:03.05 | Guerin | inspiria: bash |
| 23:03.06 | Mxldr | Do people who use debian ever have girlfriends? This is a serious question. I feel that as I learn more about computers, my social skills decrease. |
| 23:03.18 | enouf | norc: a set of tiles? like the kind they use to line the underside of the space shuttle? ;-P |
| 23:03.27 | Guerin | Mxldr: you need to get out more. |
| 23:03.35 | norc | enouf: yes, exactly those. |
| 23:03.39 | norc | a bit more colorful though |
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| 23:03.58 | enouf | well .. those glow :-) |
| 23:04.02 | Mxldr | Seriously! But where would I go? |
| 23:04.08 | inspiria | Guerin, i meant a web CMS |
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| 23:04.24 | norc | enouf: only if I send my screen into low orbit |
| 23:04.30 | Guerin | Mxldr: doesn't matter where. All that matters is that you go out. |
| 23:04.37 | Guerin | inspiria: yeah, </sarc> |
| 23:04.47 | norc | inspiria: any requirements? |
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| 23:05.20 | Mxldr | What are good ideas? It's hard because I have asperger's syndrome. |
| 23:05.38 | kingsley | Mxldr: You may be interested to learn that the name "debian" comes from the names of a couple: "Deb" and "Ian". |
| 23:05.41 | enouf | Mxldr: my 2nd job is as a pimp, does that count? |
| 23:06.21 | craigevil | pimp? send one my way :P |
| 23:06.27 | norc | wait enouf, you mean as a cyber pimp. :) |
| 23:06.29 | need2getOutMore | you're not really a pimp,and if you were... That's horrible! |
| 23:06.31 | mike1o | ive just tarred a HD into another... but my MBR is obviously not set up... I try to configure grub, but I don't know how to make it find my /boot/grub/stage1 |
| 23:06.33 | inspiria | norc, i have several separate blogs that i want to pane onto one page. all it has to do is have the ability to pane and allow for placement of panes, maybe sidebar feature(s), automatic menu generation, etc. |
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| 23:06.50 | Guerin | need2getOutMore: anyway, start by asking in another channel, lest you be banned from trollery. |
| 23:06.55 | enouf | </sarcasm> |
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| 23:07.03 | need2getOutMore | sorry |
| 23:07.19 | enouf | mike1o: /msg dpkg rescue mode |
| 23:07.44 | norc | inspiria: Mhm. Would rails be an option for you? I recall a few good CMS based on Rails. |
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| 23:07.55 | mike1o | enouf, tnx!! |
| 23:07.55 | norc | s/I recall/I can recall/ |
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| 23:08.16 | mike1o | enouf, I am running the live version already |
| 23:08.46 | norc | inspiria: I think Rubricks as ok |
| 23:08.48 | norc | was |
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| 23:10.39 | Bigshot_ | hey enouf can you lend a helping end to me for reducing the brightness of my sony vaio fz240e laptop? kernel apparently has sonypi module but does not control the brightness of the screen |
| 23:10.49 | Bigshot_ | helping hand* |
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| 23:12.43 | amphi | Bigshot_: do you have /sys/class/backlight/ ? |
| 23:13.02 | Bigshot_ | does ethchnhalf kernel has it? |
| 23:13.19 | amphi | Bigshot_: just look in /sys already |
| 23:13.30 | Bigshot_ | hold on let me go into debain :) |
| 23:13.39 | amphi | !debain |
| 23:13.39 | dpkg | Debian! D-E-B-I-A-N! The founder of Debian was not named "Ain". Sheesh! |
| 23:14.02 | Bigshot_ | haha |
| 23:14.19 | nullboy | lord. |
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| 23:15.38 | enouf | amphi: haha |
| 23:15.58 | inspiria | debainsoph |
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| 23:17.00 | bigshot | amphi, yes there is |
| 23:17.10 | craigevil | bigshot: spicctrl - Sony Vaio controller program to set LCD backlight brightness |
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| 23:17.34 | bigshot | craigevil, it always gives me "0" as output |
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| 23:20.39 | enouf | bigshot: which kernel? |
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| 23:21.14 | mike1o | I executed "grub-install /dev/sda" and it won't say anything |
| 23:21.18 | bigshot | etchnhalf |
| 23:22.00 | enouf | bigshot: try the etch-backports .26 perhaps |
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| 23:22.51 | bigshot | should i do "echo 50 brightness"? |
| 23:22.57 | bigshot | should i do "echo 50 > brightness"? |
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| 23:24.14 | stoned | hi |
| 23:24.20 | enouf | mike1o: alternatively, setup your BIOS so the HDD is in the position the older one was |
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| 23:24.37 | assasukasse_eee | is away: sleepinh |
| 23:24.57 | mike1o | enouf, not possible :) this one is sata |
| 23:24.59 | yksinaisyyteni | how do i add an ipv6 alias to an interface so that it's not used as the default source address for outgoing connections (instead the current address on the interface should be used)? |
| 23:25.02 | mike1o | + it's a laptop |
| 23:25.13 | enouf | mike1o: haha .. well .. you need the SATA Controller support |
| 23:25.14 | amphi | bigshot: what's in /sys/class/backlight/ ? |
| 23:25.21 | bigshot | acpi_video0 |
| 23:25.32 | mike1o | doesn't the kernel have that? |
| 23:25.35 | bigshot | i did echo "50" > brightness bu tno results |
| 23:25.38 | enouf | mike1o: which kernel? |
| 23:25.47 | mike1o | linux :=D |
| 23:25.54 | enouf | ... |
| 23:26.48 | bigshot | what next should i do amphi |
| 23:27.16 | amphi | bigshot: is the acpi video module loaded? lsmod | grep video |
| 23:28.00 | bigshot | i don't see acpi_video0 anywhere in the list |
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| 23:28.54 | amphi | !tell bigshot -about laptop |
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| 23:29.14 | amphi | bigshot: you may find info at one of those urls |
| 23:30.17 | jojo12241 | is there a way to install debian to a flash drive? |
| 23:30.21 | enouf | bigshot: using kde? i think in kcontrol there are somethings for ibm stinkpads and sony crap vaios |
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| 23:30.48 | enouf | jojo12241: sure - see the installation guide |
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| 23:30.55 | enouf | !usb-install |
| 23:30.56 | dpkg | i guess usb-install is Yes, it is possible to boot Debian from a USB stick (commonly referred to as a thumbdrive or usb key, among others) as long as your computer BIOS can boot from usb: http://d-i.pascal.at/ or http://wiki.debian.org/USB-HD_Boot_Full_Debian |
| 23:31.17 | jojo12241 | ok thanks |
| 23:32.54 | mike1o | enouf, the problem is that when I chroot into my copied files... I can't see my /dev/sda device... so I can't run grub-install from there |
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| 23:33.36 | enouf | bigshot: http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.27/Documentation/laptops/sonypi.txt#L122 anything applicable? .. oh dear .. you have a .24 kernel .. hrm, upgrade it :-p |
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| 23:33.50 | staticshock | can someone tell me why sed 's/x//1' is removing ALL occurrences of x, instead of the first one? |
| 23:34.08 | enouf | mike1o: you better upgrade your initrd to include the needed sata controller module |
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| 23:34.18 | jojo12241 | well is there a more simple way to install debian to a flash drive? |
| 23:34.32 | enouf | !i-g |
| 23:34.32 | dpkg | I heard "ig" is Installation Guide...see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual for Etch 4.0r5 stable, or http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/installmanual for now oldstable Sarge (3.1). Lenny is Testing! |
| 23:35.48 | enouf | http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/ch04s03.html.en |
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| 23:36.42 | enouf | need2getOutMore: hey ,.. if it's any consolation, i'm leaving now ..to go get one of my gfs ;-) |
| 23:38.02 | bigshot | enouf so i should upgrade to kernel 2.6.27.7? |
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| 23:39.43 | amphi | bigshot: last I looked, .27.9 was out |
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| 23:42.28 | mats | how can i encode a mp3 file to mpeg2 with ffmpeg or mencoder??? |
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| 23:42.40 | bigshot | amphi, can i follow this tutorial? http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_debian_etch |
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| 23:45.19 | amphi | looks ok |
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| 23:45.26 | enouf | bigshot: just going now .. but i'd try the one i mentioned earlier - for ease of install - etch-backports .26 |
| 23:45.37 | bigshot | whta's that? |
| 23:45.44 | mats | i need a mpeg2 file, who knows how to make it out of a mp3 |
| 23:45.46 | mats | ??? |
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| 23:46.07 | amphi | bigshot: did you find any info on linux-laptop.net or tuxmobil.org? |
| 23:46.47 | bigshot | not for my laptop |
| 23:46.47 | bigshot | fz240e |
| 23:46.47 | bigshot | vgn-fz240e |
| 23:46.47 | amphi | bigshot: ah, so you get to write the howto ;) |
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| 23:47.30 | bigshot | will the modules that i installed to make my webcam work work on newer kernels too? |
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| 23:48.04 | cr3 | what does this mean when dpkg -i packages: cannot configure (current status `config-files') |
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| 23:50.01 | unsolo | Lets say i wanted to build a NAS with normal pc's |
| 23:50.03 | scientes | how do i just delete all raids and start over |
| 23:50.07 | scientes | mdadm is hating me |
| 23:50.21 | unsolo | should i use DRBD + OCFS2 ? |
| 23:50.37 | unsolo | and syncronise two servers ? |
| 23:50.52 | scientes | mknod /dev/md0 b 9 0 |
| 23:50.52 | scientes | mknod: `/dev/md0': File exists |
| 23:50.52 | scientes | root@dvr:~# mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level 1 --raid-devices=2 missing /dev/sda7 |
| 23:50.53 | scientes | mdadm: error opening /dev/md0: No such device or address |
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| 23:51.31 | unsolo | cd /dev && MAKEDEV md0 |
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| 23:53.26 | scientes | /sbin/MAKEDEV: don't know how to make device "md0" |
| 23:54.22 | valdyn | scientes: mdadm creates those device nodes |
| 23:54.41 | scientes | well i cant mount or use it |
| 23:54.45 | valdyn | scientes: the error message does not refer to a missing device node |
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| 23:54.58 | scientes | and the partitions that were assembles i now cant use |
| 23:55.03 | scientes | i just want to kill all mdadm stuff |
| 23:55.11 | scientes | all it did was lock up my partitions |
| 23:55.20 | scientes | it worked the first time but after restarting it broke |
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| 23:56.40 | scientes | and it wont let me remove them |
| 23:56.51 | valdyn | !tell scientes -about ask |
| 23:57.09 | scientes | how do i fix my mdadm |
| 23:57.12 | scientes | i have no idea |
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| 23:57.25 | derjens | hello everyone |
| 23:57.42 | scientes | my raid1 * |
| 23:57.49 | derjens | is it possible to setup debian that it will encrypt (nearly) the whole harddisk but that i could boot it from remote? |
| 23:57.54 | valdyn | scientes: start by reading what dpkg told you and follow that, its not difficult |
| 23:58.23 | scientes | mdadm gives seemingly random errors and doesnt work |
| 23:58.33 | derjens | what i imagine: the box boots up and loads elementary system components+ssh. afterwards i login using an restricted account and type in the hdd encryption password |
| 23:58.36 | scientes | i cant mount anything that was related to my raid--i allready said that |
| 23:58.41 | derjens | is that possible? |
| 23:59.02 | scientes | derjens, you could just leave the basic system unencrypted, why wount anyone care that you have a drive with debian on it |
| 23:59.16 | valdyn | scientes: what dpkg told you is to give commands and error messages, not "seemingly random" |
| 23:59.57 | derjens | scientes, this is for a public server and i want to make it a secure as possible (tor manual and my personal curiosity demand that) |
