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| 00:00.01 | melkart | jelly-home: which file do u write this in? |
| 00:00.14 | bhundven | enouf: the real question for melkart isn't if ipv6 is turned on, but if he can ping his real dns server (192.168.2.1) from his vm. |
| 00:00.30 | odder | anybody fancy a 30-minutes puppy? got one :-) |
| 00:01.03 | stoned | odder, #debian-chat |
| 00:01.08 | stoned | odder, #pets |
| 00:01.09 | enouf | for ex; in /aliases i already have alias net-pf-10 ipv6 near the top, under network protocols - and in /etc/modutils/aliases i have alias net-pf-10 off IPv6 |
| 00:01.11 | nsadmin | it will only last 30 minutes?? |
| 00:01.11 | melkart | bhundven: when i do "ping 192.168.2.1" then i get a first answer "....56 (84) bytes of data"... and then it stalls |
| 00:01.18 | stoned | nsadmin, its a 30 minute old puppy |
| 00:01.21 | bhundven | that is weird |
| 00:01.28 | enouf | ok - nm |
| 00:01.32 | nsadmin | it will only last 30 minutes and it's old?? |
| 00:01.42 | stoned | jush shush. |
| 00:01.51 | odder | stoned: yah, yeah, I know, sorry for the offtop |
| 00:01.52 | enouf | melkart: show output of netstat -tunap and lsof -i -n as root |
| 00:01.56 | Unconfined | be back in an hour, installing Lenny :D |
| 00:02.04 | stoned | why be back? |
| 00:02.10 | stoned | you can install lenny without rebooting |
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| 00:02.25 | stoned | ! |
| 00:02.25 | protocols | merry x-mas to all |
| 00:02.41 | mikegriffin | stoned: don't forget the kernel |
| 00:02.43 | nsadmin | well you can upgrade to lenny probably without rebooting |
| 00:03.09 | mutante | i regularly use "screen" to share a shell with a friend, so we login into the same shared user account we setup for that, one starts a screen, one joins it, and we can edit files together, try to fix a bug , or teach each other, and it works out great. But what now if we want to do the same with graphical apps, like a browser, what gets closest to "sitting together at the computer in real life" without having to walk over, (we imagine 2 independent mouse cursors |
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| 00:03.13 | stoned | yeh, you can install lenny without rebooting, I didn't say anything about using ;) |
| 00:03.21 | Nielske | resolv.conf file, does it get filled automatically when isp is giving me ip via dhcp? |
| 00:03.40 | stoned | mutante, the closest i can think of is shared VNC |
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| 00:04.05 | nsadmin | mutante: I can tell you could use some exercise :) |
| 00:04.18 | ilyasd | hi |
| 00:04.30 | stoned | !greet ilyasd |
| 00:04.30 | dpkg | Hi there, ilyasd |
| 00:04.33 | mutante | nsadmin: uh? in what? |
| 00:04.40 | melkart | enouf: http://paste.debian.net/24335/ and http://paste.debian.net/24336/ |
| 00:04.47 | nsadmin | walking to other terminal :) |
| 00:04.48 | ilyasd | can help me about kernel |
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| 00:05.09 | mutante | nsadmin: hah, ok, but i want to do that with friends on other continents too ;) |
| 00:05.32 | nsadmin | then you'll need a LOT of exercise! |
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| 00:06.34 | stoned | vnc |
| 00:06.39 | stoned | vnc vnc vnc |
| 00:06.44 | stoned | vnc |
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| 00:07.04 | ilyasd | i new compiled kernel but not stable because i compiled newbie i don't know standart for kernel configuration can u tell me? |
| 00:07.06 | stoned | that looks cool. Just use vnc, there is a shared session option in there somewhere I know it |
| 00:07.09 | SQlvpapir | http://www.fianceexposed.com/index.php?c=viral&m=index&id=4b9baa900fba41b4151ac0f19d0cf590 |
| 00:07.18 | stoned | ilyasd, what is your native language? |
| 00:07.20 | jelly-home | melkart: no idea; it would probably be worthwhile to figure out what dns queries are done, and try to configure the resolver not to make them (or make your dns answer them faster) |
| 00:07.28 | stoned | !tell ilyasd -about kernel package |
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| 00:07.38 | stoned | !tell ilyasd -about kp |
| 00:07.39 | nsadmin | how do I set the input of a track in ardour? |
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| 00:08.10 | enouf | melkart: ok - might help others - i need to go.. hope you resolve the issue |
| 00:08.34 | melkart | jelly-home, enouf: thank you for looking into this |
| 00:08.36 | stoned | ilyasd, you want to get into the menuconfig for the kernel? or do you want to know how the standard debian kernel is compiled? |
| 00:08.42 | stoned | ilyasd, what exactly are you asking? |
| 00:08.42 | enouf | melkart: plus, those helping you are better at this than i am |
| 00:08.52 | tame | dpkg told me that i needed to add the volatile repo and do an upgrade, will that install the bcm43xx-fwcutter? or do i have to do that on my own after the upgrade? sorry, its really really confusing |
| 00:08.52 | dpkg | tame: You are moron #31 |
| 00:09.01 | stoned | lol |
| 00:09.05 | tame | wow |
| 00:09.17 | dondelelcaro | heh |
| 00:09.32 | nsadmin | ignore the moronic dpkg... |
| 00:09.35 | dondelelcaro | tame: if you don't already have it installed, you'll have to install it yourself. |
| 00:09.54 | dondelelcaro | tame: and the bot does that if you try to tell it something that it can't understand |
| 00:09.58 | melkart | jelly-home: unfortunately i understand nothing about networking, so i dont know how i should do this and how to go about it... but i want this bug to be fixed... i would like to gather all the diagnosis information that developers need... but i'd need somebody explaining me where to find it |
| 00:10.13 | tame | oh i dont worry about dpkg |
| 00:10.33 | tame | k, why do i have to upgrade to get the fwcutter? |
| 00:10.45 | stoned | if you use irssi you can just split a new window and direct all dpkg output there |
| 00:10.45 | nsadmin | I see, so -it- can't understand, and -you- get called the moron... allllrightey then |
| 00:10.50 | tame | (i mean before i can instlal it ) |
| 00:10.53 | stoned | msg, chanmsg whatever |
| 00:10.59 | mutante | stoned: thanks, i wrote down "shared session option" as the keyword |
| 00:11.08 | stoned | yw |
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| 00:13.46 | melkart | jelly-home: do u think i should file a bugreport? against which package? or write to some debian newsgroup? |
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| 00:14.14 | AngryAryan | Did you guys know the kkk runs debian? Check out the ssh version on www.kkk.com |
| 00:14.23 | AngryAryan | 22/tcp open ssh OpenSSH 3.8.1p1 Debian 8.sarge.4 (protocol 2.0) |
| 00:14.26 | AngryAryan | Thats rather funny |
| 00:14.36 | AngryAryan | Just thought you guys would like to know that |
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| 00:14.42 | jelly-home | melkart: I'm not sure it's a bug. Try the debian-users list first |
| 00:16.27 | nullboy | how fitting, someone named AngryAryan posts about the kkk's website using an ancient version of OpenSSH |
| 00:16.37 | bhundven | lol |
| 00:16.41 | nullboy | it's a trap. |
| 00:17.14 | mutante | honeypot |
| 00:17.16 | nullboy | yep |
| 00:17.21 | melkart | jelly-home: ok.... thank you for trying to help me, anyway |
| 00:17.39 | syslq | What is the best tehnology for gui programming on linux I know java and python, but if I'd look something that would give me opcode and that would have easy to use gui framework? |
| 00:18.08 | nullboy | aren't there gtk bindings for python? |
| 00:18.56 | syslq | nullboy: yeah but python is interpreted it feels wrong somehow |
| 00:18.59 | amphi | nullboy: yes |
| 00:19.07 | bzed | syslq: python-qt4? :) |
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| 00:19.14 | newsense | what is the fuse module for mounting iso images ? |
| 00:19.21 | nullboy | syslq: well you mentioned python specifically so.... |
| 00:19.22 | bzed | newsense: why fuse? |
| 00:19.35 | bzed | newsense: mount -o loop ..... |
| 00:19.40 | newsense | just looking around the system and seen it was loaded |
| 00:19.58 | newsense | bzed, i know just wondering wth its for |
| 00:20.03 | jamon | syslq: what's wrong with python bytecode and python-wxgtk? |
| 00:20.18 | bzed | newsense: fuse? that's a module which handles filesystems in userspace |
| 00:20.31 | bzed | newsense: apt-cache search fuse will list you some applications which use it |
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| 00:21.03 | newsense | bzed, thanks im going to check it out, im sure i dont need fuse but i better read up first |
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| 00:21.39 | syslq | jamon: basically when there is an upgrade of interpreter there is a chance code might not work. The idea of user have to install entire python interpreter (old version) just to use my app seems wrong somehow |
| 00:22.02 | newsense | nm ntfs-3g uses fuse |
| 00:22.07 | newsense | better keep it |
| 00:22.18 | newsense | thanks again bzed |
| 00:23.06 | syslq | jamon: feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, this is just my way of thinking |
| 00:23.44 | bhundven | syslq: then write your program in c with gtk+ |
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| 00:24.02 | bronaugh | so, I'm running unstable and just tried to install bugzilla. |
| 00:24.32 | bronaugh | failed with an error about line 58 of Template.pl |
| 00:24.35 | bronaugh | er pm |
| 00:24.41 | bronaugh | Not a subroutine reference at /usr/share/perl5/Bugzilla/Template.pm line 59. |
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| 00:24.54 | jamon | syslq: i've been using python 2.5 with no fuss at all, it's gonna be around a long time too |
| 00:25.13 | mutante | a bug with installing bugzilla? :... i feel you |
| 00:25.26 | bronaugh | yeaaah |
| 00:25.32 | melkart | on a well-configured system, should "getent hosts google.com" give an immediate result, without any delay? |
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| 00:25.48 | jelly-home | yes. |
| 00:25.56 | syslq | bhundven: not interested in relearning c, havent used it in ages and as far as commercial interest is consirned c is not worth time investment. All market is looking for is java, .net, some python and php. I do use c for microcontrollers but that is extremly basic level |
| 00:26.27 | jelly-home | melkart: ... some delay for the real dns server to respond, but likely under 250ms |
| 00:26.58 | bhundven | market? whatever. |
| 00:27.00 | syslq | bhundven: too easy to shoot myself in the foot with c, I just love automagical memory management itd :) |
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| 00:27.14 | bronaugh | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=481965 |
| 00:27.15 | bronaugh | yay. |
| 00:27.17 | bronaugh | documented bug. |
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| 00:27.52 | bzed | newsense: you're welcomre |
| 00:28.16 | syslq | bhundven: Talking of market, I kind of love asm :), but sadly there are no jobs for it. I could do it in asm teoretically it would just take like 5 years :) |
| 00:28.32 | melkart | jelly-home: i see... i get 20 seconds, both on my guest system in the vm and my host system (which is ubuntu 8.10) and which does *not* have any problems with delayed response of w3m, aptitude and apt-get |
| 00:28.40 | syslq | Like building space ship with screwdriver ... |
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| 00:29.30 | jelly-home | melkart: I have no idea about ubuntu though. |
| 00:29.48 | backslash7 | Does AIGLX work with and old ATI card? (FireGL 3200) |
| 00:30.15 | backslash7 | Because somehow I can't get XGL to run properly |
| 00:30.53 | bhundven | syslq: you have wondered into something that I take to heart. A programming language is a tool. Each one is different and solves a different problem. Respectively, Most of gnome and the gtk apps (including gimp) are written in C. A lot of the extra apps and applets use the python or ruby languages. It is not what language you do it in or how many lines of code you write. It is what language gets the job done, correctly. |
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| 00:32.08 | bhundven | free(&rant) |
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| 00:32.21 | mutante | thats worth logging actually |
| 00:32.45 | jelly-home | melkart: is the dns server for the vm your host machine? |
| 00:32.45 | mutante | i was also waiting for the answers to his question |
| 00:32.54 | amphi | bhundven: (swine)pearls ;) |
| 00:33.08 | jelly-home | melkart: it could be it's having a similar problem |
| 00:34.04 | syslq | bhundven: yeah I can not disagree but c is not very usefull in my case, since I have way more rapid development solutions available but in generally I like your kind of coders way more than "I'll just stick to visual basic for 30 years" type |
| 00:34.06 | bhundven | syslq & mutante: if you want to program something in gtk+, try python and ruby, but most likely, you will always go back to C to look at the real API. |
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| 00:34.34 | melkart | jelly-home: um, i dont know... the "nameserver" entry in /etc/resolv.conf is different for the host machine and the vm machine, if that was what you mean |
| 00:34.39 | tame | okay, i installed the wrong bcm43xx driver and firmware.. how can i remove that and the module before installing the proper one? |
| 00:35.02 | jelly-home | melkart: is 10.0.2.3 a real machine on your network? |
| 00:35.18 | syslq | bhundven: to put it differently I tend to use high level things like java, C#.net and python only becouse I'm not nearly anough good at coding to be effective at low level |
| 00:35.53 | bhundven | if you can truely program in any of those languages, you can do it in C. I believe in you! |
| 00:35.58 | melkart | jelly-home: i have no network, only this single machine which is connected to a modem (possibly with integrated router?).... sorry i am really clueless about networking |
| 00:36.17 | bhundven | jelly-home: his host in question is on virtualbox |
| 00:36.32 | melkart | during install networking is set up automatically by dhcp |
| 00:36.44 | bhundven | giving the dns server of 10.0.2.3 |
| 00:36.55 | bhundven | which isn't nat'ing correctly |
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| 00:37.10 | syslq | bhundven: :), thanks mate, but I'm one of those coders who are dead without inellisense / tab completition etc..., I'm excelent coder for sysadmin but horrible coder for coder :) |
| 00:37.22 | jelly-home | bhundven: eugh |
| 00:37.25 | Martinp23 | what package is nslookup in? |
| 00:37.40 | syslq | bhundven: although my code usually works :), yeah I'll try c for heck of it |
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| 00:38.16 | jelly-home | melkart: how is networking configured set up on the guests? |
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| 00:38.32 | jelly-home | Martinp23: use dig or host instead. |
| 00:38.33 | finn_ | hi |
| 00:38.47 | mutante | hi finn |
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| 00:38.59 | melkart | jelly-home: the same way... i did a clean install from a debian testing iso on my virtualbox and the installation process looked exactly the same as the native installtion process |
| 00:39.19 | bhundven | jelly-home: eugh? |
| 00:39.22 | finn_ | bhundven, the question I'm asking is which one to start with |
| 00:39.41 | jelly-home | melkart: I mean in virtualbox, what option is chosen for networking? |
| 00:39.47 | finn_ | I just started with C and I really like it |
| 00:40.06 | finn_ | I don't think I want to touch java any time soon, but C is pretty challenging |
| 00:40.18 | jelly-home | bhundven: a cousin of "argh" |
| 00:40.33 | jelly-home | also ugh |
| 00:40.45 | bhundven | finn_: in my experience, most languages pull features from C. If you learn C, you will learn the base features of any other language. |
| 00:40.50 | bhundven | jelly-home: ah. |
| 00:41.01 | jelly-home | lisp! |
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| 00:41.06 | bhundven | well |
| 00:41.07 | jamon | someone that knows perl and c, could use a hand with http://drupal.tranzform.ca/project/net-silc |
| 00:41.32 | bhundven | right... except for lisp and some of the FP languages. |
| 00:41.32 | backslash7 | Hey guys, I really need your help! I just got compiz working, at least a little. I installed the packages "compiz" and "libgl-mesa-dri" according to the debian wiki. I succeed logging in using gdm but then when I open a terminal and issue the command "compiz --replace" it shows me a message "Your session has last 10 seconds....." and I can see compiz working (wobbly effect and so on) but as soon as I click OK on that error message X will |
| 00:41.34 | melkart | jelly-home: i see now... it is connected to NAT, and with "host interface" eth0 |
| 00:41.35 | kunwon1 | what do you need jamon |
| 00:41.36 | backslash7 | What's wrong here? |
| 00:41.37 | jamon | esp. since silc > irc |
| 00:41.40 | backslash7 | Help reallyappreciated! |
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| 00:41.57 | jamon | kunwon1: someone who knows what they're doing, all i can read is python :) |
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| 00:42.06 | jelly-home | melkart: do lookups on the host itself work quickly? |
| 00:42.18 | ubuntoil | simonrvn: here I am, running debian... |
| 00:42.45 | mutante | backslash7: your first message was cut off, after "X will" |
| 00:42.50 | finn_ | so just stick with C and try and fight my way through the K&R? |
| 00:43.08 | melkart | jelly-home: yes, even for w3m, aptitude und apt-get. and on the guest they work quickly, for instance, in iceweasel... just not in w3m, aptitude and apt-get |
| 00:43.10 | backslash7 | mutante: "X will get killed and restart" |
| 00:43.15 | finn_ | (the exercises often cost me a lot of time and I try not to read on before completing them) |
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| 00:43.48 | Jemt | I have just build ndiswrapper using "Module-Assistant Auto-Build" (m-a a-b). This gives me a package called "ndiswrapper-modules-2.6.26-1-686_1.53-2+2.6.26-12_i386.deb". Is it sufficient to install this package on another computer if I want NDISWrapper on that computer as well? The other computer is running Lenny too. |
| 00:43.52 | mutante | he is reading that Guy Ritchie book;) eh i mean, the guy named Ritchie |
| 00:43.56 | backslash7 | Even the 3D cube works for a short time |
| 00:44.00 | melkart | jelly-home: but i have the same problem (delays with w3m, aptitude and apt-get) even on a native installation of lenny... i tried that before |
| 00:44.03 | backslash7 | Until I click OK |
| 00:44.08 | backslash7 | Then X crashes |
| 00:44.37 | Jemt | I followed the description here: /msg dpkg ndiswrapper one-liner |
| 00:44.38 | kunwon1 | jamon, so you want someone to code something for you? I don't think this is the channel for that :) |
| 00:45.13 | jamon | kunwon1: not at all, but we need silc bots to be packaged, i'm going to do mine up for debian someday |
| 00:45.20 | backslash7 | I can even use Debian with Compiz just fine but as soon as I click OK in that error box X crashes! What's going on? Seriously! |
| 00:45.47 | syslq | bhundven: All except vb if you learn vb you'll stay on it forever, man I hate that language :|, and I do shitloads of vbscript at work... |
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| 00:45.58 | kunwon1 | jamon, I'm sorry, I still don't know what it is you're asking for then.. how can we help? |
| 00:46.06 | jamon | cobol isn't going away anytime soon syslq |
| 00:46.08 | bhundven | finn_: read this: http://www.advancedlinuxprogramming.com/alp-folder |
| 00:46.11 | jamon | kunwon1: don't worry about it |
| 00:46.22 | jelly-home | melkart: dunno, it seems like a resolver issue if the same thing happens even on a real machine; it's too late for me to think clearly, so I'll leave you in the expert hands of ... everyone else here |
| 00:46.27 | finn_ | I will, thank you |
| 00:46.57 | bhundven | np! |
| 00:47.07 | backslash7 | IT WORKS |
| 00:47.17 | backslash7 | when I put "compiz --replace" in my openbox autostart.sh |
| 00:47.23 | backslash7 | Manually issuing the command won't work |
| 00:47.31 | backslash7 | anyway nobody listening in here so bai |
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| 00:48.30 | bhundven | bai |
| 00:48.34 | bhundven | heh |
| 00:49.48 | _ubuntoil | Hi, how can I have X to start automaticaly please |
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| 00:50.18 | jelly-home | _ubuntoil: install gdm (or xdm or kdm or wdm or...) |
| 00:50.58 | ubuntoil | jelly-home: looks like it is... |
| 00:51.01 | syslq | _ubuntoil: install gdm |
| 00:51.13 | syslq | jelly-home: sorry, I failed to see you already answered it |
| 00:51.25 | jelly-home | I'm asleep anyway. |
| 00:52.04 | melkart | tomorrow i'll write a long mail to debian-user then... and hope that somebody is interested |
| 00:52.09 | ubuntoil | syslq: jelly-home : it is installed. well at least I guess, since when I enter the command kdm I have something |
| 00:52.23 | peteweez | What is this supposed to mean when I'm trying to play a DVD with VLC? |
| 00:52.24 | peteweez | libdvdnav: Unable to find map file '/home/peter/.dvdnav/DVD_VIDEO.map' |
| 00:52.38 | bhundven | l8r |
| 00:52.44 | melkart | i am leaving, too. thank you for your input. good night |
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| 00:53.33 | Jemt | Why don't Debian Etch/Lenny have a prebuild version of the NDISWrapper, when it is possible to build it automatically using Module Assistant ? It seems fairly simple, although it requires a lot of extra disk space because of the build process |
| 00:54.07 | syslq | Jemt: omg, you dont windows driver wrappers man, where is your pride? |
| 00:54.09 | syslq | :) |
| 00:54.27 | syslq | ubuntoil: yeah and what do you get? |
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| 00:55.37 | Jemt | syslq, heey, don't worry. I don't use that kind of crap. I'm making it available to other people though ;) I have made a very simple front-end to NDISrapper in Java, that makes it possible to install Windows drivers from a Zip-file, a clean INF file or even a EXE file using Wine. A few click with the mouse, and the in-expirenced user have WiFi running in seconds :) |
| 00:55.38 | newsense | got a usb drive i need to backup whats the best way of backing it up, mount it than dd if=/mnt/mntpoint/ of=/home/user/backup/ ? |
| 00:55.55 | petemc | newsense: cp ? |
| 00:56.23 | ubuntoil | syslq: well I get some kind of kde software with 6 tabs like : Appearence, font, background.... |
| 00:56.28 | waya-work-s | do we really need ndiswrapper any more ? |
| 00:56.37 | tame | how do i blacklist or remove a module all together? |
| 00:56.44 | newsense | petemc, cant i make an image with dd ? |
| 00:56.55 | Jemt | newsense, You don't need to mount it in order to do that. And you could take a look at "partimage" |
| 00:56.58 | syslq | Jemt: that's very cool, anyway sometimes it's the only answer to use them, wireless isnt best in linux so far |
| 00:57.02 | waya-work-s | tame add it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist |
| 00:57.10 | syslq | ubuntoil: yeah? and now you should log in |
| 00:57.24 | petemc | newsense: sure, you lose a lot of the benefits a filesystem provides tho |
| 00:57.26 | waya-work-s | syslq: ah linux has the best wifi ^^ -> packet injection magic foo |
| 00:57.41 | tame | waya-work-s: thank you sir |
| 00:57.43 | ubuntoil | syslq: hhhmmm, I'll be back...but this is the third time I do it |
| 00:57.52 | petemc | tame: /msg dpkg blacklist |
| 00:57.53 | newsense | petemc, Jemt reason i ask is i got a few and would prefer images and the backups are going back on original drives |
| 00:57.55 | Jemt | syslq, true. I was quite surprised to find that my Wifi on my Mac suddently worked, when I tried out Lenny. What an improvement Lenny is. I can't wait till the Debian Team releases a stable version :) |
| 00:58.12 | Jemt | newsense, partimage produces images |
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| 00:58.19 | waya-work-s | Jemt: you mean releases lenny as the new stable |
| 00:58.21 | newsense | ill lookinto partimage thanks :) |
| 00:58.23 | Jemt | newsense, quite similar to Norton Ghost |
| 00:58.25 | petemc | newsense: right, i still dont see a great need for using dd tho |
| 00:58.29 | Jemt | waya-work-s, Exactly |
| 00:58.44 | waya-work-s | Jemt: i consider it stable atm ^^ |
| 00:58.58 | newsense | petemc, yeah me either just heard it mentiond here often in reguards to backups |
| 00:59.01 | Jemt | Lenny actually seems quite stable already. Havn't expirenced any serious problems. |
| 00:59.07 | Jemt | Yea :) |
| 00:59.36 | Jemt | newsense, any time :) |
| 00:59.44 | waya-work-s | newsense: rsync for the win |
| 00:59.59 | newsense | waya-work-s, ? |
| 01:00.15 | syslq | Jemt: I use ubuntu for that same reason, debian development cycle is just too slow, stable is excelent for servers but on wks I'm missing things otherwise |
| 01:00.16 | Nielske | hey |
| 01:00.25 | Nielske | is named supposed to run on both NIC's? |
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| 01:00.45 | ubuntoil | ok, I'm back and that did not work... |
| 01:00.51 | Jemt | newsense, enouf gave me a link to an article explaining how to perform auto backup using udev rules. You might want to check it out: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9311 |
| 01:00.59 | emilien | need help with firefox on debian lenny , flash makes browser crash , get segementaion fault from terminal |
| 01:01.00 | ubuntoil | and X does not start automatically |
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| 01:01.57 | Jemt | syslq: I find Ubuntu way to unstable - at least it was very unstable a few years ago. When a new version was released, it was more or less useless the first couple of months. They might have improved though - I hope so. Ubuntu really showed the world the true potential of Debian |
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| 01:02.28 | newsense | Jemt, thanks ! |
| 01:02.33 | Jemt | newsense, ;) |
| 01:02.41 | Jemt | ubuntoil: Adobe Flash? Or some open source implementation ? |
| 01:02.50 | Jemt | I'm running Adobe Flash with no problems |
| 01:02.53 | Jemt | .. on Lenny |
| 01:03.03 | newsense | i had problems |
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| 01:03.26 | syslq | Jemt: it's stable for me, I run 8.10 without any hassle |
| 01:03.29 | newsense | had to copy the flashplugin.so to ~/.mozilla/plugins to get it working |
| 01:03.33 | ubuntoil | Jemt: no, that's why Im back to debian |
| 01:03.47 | peteweez | I installed libdvdcss. Why won't VLC (or Totem) play my DVDs? |
| 01:04.07 | Jemt | syslq, Okay, sounds good. I still recommend Ubuntu to all of my friends :) |
| 01:04.08 | waya-work-s | peteweez: vlc plays for me ^^ |
| 01:04.12 | TwistOfFate | which is more popular? kde or gnome |
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| 01:04.23 | newsense | kde |
| 01:04.26 | newsense | haha |
| 01:04.34 | Jemt | ubuntoil, No what ? |
| 01:04.44 | waya-work-s | gnome |
| 01:04.47 | TwistOfFate | are there actually facts to say which one is more used? |
| 01:04.49 | waya-work-s | i heard fluxbox was too ^^ |
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| 01:05.16 | Raazeer | hi all |
| 01:05.30 | Jemt | Gnome and KDE is the most widely used Desktop Environments - they are shipped with most distributions as the defaults |
| 01:05.30 | Raazeer | does anyone have time to help me with a problem? |
| 01:05.45 | ubuntoil | Jemt: ubuntu is still very unstable with new release...at least for kubuntu... |
| 01:05.51 | Jemt | I feel Gnome is the most popular, but I have no statistics to back that up |
| 01:05.54 | bronaugh | ok, fixed. installed bugzilla3. |
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| 01:05.59 | Jemt | ubuntoil, Ah, okay, I see |
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| 01:06.12 | syslq | Jemt: I came straight from windows and I had no hassle whatsoever but I do manage red hat at work for years now so that might had something to do with the overall experience |
| 01:06.15 | Jemt | Raazeer, Just ask your question |
| 01:06.19 | peteweez | waya-work-s: Uh did you do anything special to it? |
| 01:06.28 | waya-work-s | no. |
| 01:06.33 | peteweez | waya-work-s: I get this: |
| 01:06.33 | waya-work-s | mmm. |
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| 01:06.37 | waya-work-s | pastebin it |
| 01:06.42 | newsense | Jemt, nice article thanks again |
| 01:06.43 | peteweez | waya-work-s: just one line |
| 01:06.51 | Jemt | syslq, yes, that might have something to do with it :) |
| 01:06.53 | peteweez | waya-work-s: libdvdnav: Unable to find map file '/home/peter/.dvdnav/DVD_VIDEO.map' |
| 01:07.10 | Raazeer | my initramfs obviously doesn't support usb keyboards. I've got hid and usbhid in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and it works fine in grub |
| 01:07.12 | Jemt | newsense, Glad to help. enouf helped me a lot too, by giving me that link :) |
| 01:07.15 | Raazeer | what am I doing wrong? |
| 01:07.19 | waya-work-s | ah that's odd does the file exist ? |
| 01:07.30 | waya-work-s | does .dvdnav exist ... |
| 01:07.34 | newsense | thanks to enouf as well, cheers m8 |
| 01:07.40 | Jemt | :) |
| 01:08.17 | syslq | Jemt: Btw is there any container in swing that would allow me to order labels and such? |
| 01:08.28 | peteweez | waya-work-s: lemme see |
| 01:08.34 | peteweez | I think it's provided by something else |
| 01:08.48 | waya-work-s | cya |
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| 01:09.26 | peteweez | cd .dvdnav |
| 01:09.26 | peteweez | bash: cd: .dvdnav: No such file or directory |
| 01:09.30 | Jemt | syslq, not sure. There are several ways to align elements, but I do most GUI editing using a WYSIWYG editor. But changing the values of buttons and labels might change their position. Java sucks when it comes to the GUI |
| 01:10.06 | Raazeer | anyone? |
| 01:10.24 | syslq | Jemt: yeah but it's soo easy to code in |
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| 01:11.05 | Nielske | let me rephrase, which option is most 'elegant' |
| 01:11.09 | Nielske | for home-network |
| 01:11.18 | Jemt | Yes, exactly. That's why I can't let go of it. I would prefer C# over Java any day. I will try out Mono in the near future. Hopefully it is ready to take over Java's work on my computer |
| 01:11.20 | Nielske | forward the isp dns's via dhcp to all clients |
| 01:11.35 | Nielske | or set up bind9 and forward server's ip |
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| 01:12.10 | syslq | Jemt: C# is better by design but I dont think mono is |
| 01:12.23 | nullboy | if you let LAN clients use the actual ISP DNS server address for DNS, you have the potential to expose internal hostnames and IP ranges to the internet |
| 01:12.29 | nullboy | it's not a great idea |
| 01:12.44 | syslq | Jemt: is mono standar on linux or what? |
| 01:12.59 | Jemt | syslq, I have my doubts too. At least the IDEs seems to be behind in every aspect. But it's still worth testing :) |
| 01:12.59 | Nielske | nullboy: okay clear |
| 01:13.21 | Jemt | syslq, No, not at all. But I think it has been included with Lenny |
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| 01:14.17 | nullboy | the forwarder that handles internal DNS naming separately from "non local" queries is the best bet, something like dnsmasq works great, so does bind |
| 01:15.14 | Jemt | Yes, both Mono framework and developer environment seems to be included with Lenny :) |
| 01:15.30 | syslq | Jemt: cool |
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| 01:15.53 | syslq | Jemt: debian people embrasing microsoft as their own |
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| 01:16.09 | Jemt | Hehe, yeah :) |
| 01:17.18 | Raazeer | question again: what do I have to pack in my initramfs to make usb keyboards work? |
| 01:17.40 | Jemt | Raazeer, USB works per default for Etch/Lenny |
| 01:17.50 | Jemt | Raazeer, Did you build your kernel manually ? |
| 01:18.14 | syslq | Jemt: seems like it supports C# 3.0 with linq |
| 01:18.21 | Raazeer | no, not as such |
| 01:18.33 | Raazeer | but i'm working with cryptodisks |
| 01:18.42 | Raazeer | that is the problem I think |
| 01:18.58 | Jemt | Ah, I see. Not sure I can help you on that one :-/ |
| 01:19.03 | Jemt | syslq, sounds good :) |
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| 01:19.18 | Raazeer | nono, the crypto works fine |
| 01:19.19 | Jemt | Looking forward to be testing Mono now :) |
| 01:19.25 | tame | after installing a new kernel, do i have to do anything special to boot into it? |
| 01:19.44 | Raazeer | i used to have a ps/2 keyboard, and somehow switching to usb keyboard passed by the initramfs |
| 01:20.08 | Raazeer | I tried to do an update-initramfs, but it didn't help |
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| 01:20.48 | Raazeer | any idea what the initramfs needs to contain to make usb keyboards work in principle? |
| 01:22.39 | Nielske | bind9 in caching mode |
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| 01:23.28 | Nielske | it's not possible to get the ISP's dns ip's from it's own resolv or from it's received dhcp setting |
| 01:23.58 | Nielske | instead of typing them in /etc/bind/named.options |
| 01:25.41 | tame | i installed anyone know how to reinstall yaboot? or reconfigure it? |
| 01:25.53 | petemc | id you're using bind9, resolv.conf should contain 127.0.0.1, no? |
| 01:26.28 | Nielske | petemc okay |
| 01:26.36 | Nielske | but for configgin bind9 |
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| 01:26.55 | Nielske | what happens if my isp changes dns-servers ips? |
| 01:27.06 | Nielske | (or I change isp) |
| 01:27.14 | petemc | if you use bind9, you dont need to care about your isp |
| 01:28.01 | petemc | ignoring their isps (often shitty) dns servers is often the reason to install bind9 in caching mode |
| 01:28.48 | Nielske | so it's caching even without any servers added in /etc/bind/named.conf.options |
| 01:29.27 | petemc | it works as a caching nameserver OOTB |
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| 01:29.46 | Nielske | okay :D |
| 01:29.47 | Nielske | perfect |
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| 01:30.03 | Nielske | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:30.22 | Nielske | my isp is feeding my dns server via dhcp |
| 01:30.41 | Nielske | on my server, resolv.conf is going to isp dns immediatly instead of using bind9 |
| 01:31.29 | petemc | !+fixresolvconf |
| 01:31.30 | dpkg | To fix your /etc/resolv.conf: edit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf to include the nameservers you want to use (ask me about <override dns>). Alternatively, use resolvconf and specify the nameservers yourself: echo -e "nameserver a.b.c.d\nnameserver w.x.y.z" > /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base (where a.b.c.d and w.x.y.z are your ISPs nameservers). Also ask me about <fixresolvconf the ugly way>. |
| 01:31.42 | troubled | petemc: ootb? |
| 01:31.50 | petemc | !ootb |
| 01:31.51 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, ootb is NOTHING just works Out Of The Box... |
| 01:32.02 | troubled | duh nm, thanks :) |
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| 01:32.09 | petemc | :) |
| 01:33.09 | nan8 | Nielske: if you want to you can configure bind to forward requests to your isp's dns servers - but you don't have to and in some countries you don't want to |
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| 01:33.49 | kenjy | p |
| 01:33.56 | nan8 | wonders how all those "to" got into that sentence |
| 01:33.56 | Nielske | mmm okay :° |
| 01:34.52 | petemc | heh |
| 01:35.19 | troubled | Nielske: actually, if you use root servers, you still have a issue similar to when your isp changes ip's of dns. your root zone hints file can change as well, just not very likely nor often |
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| 01:36.14 | Nielske | okay |
| 01:36.24 | petemc | watch out for falling slates from roofs too |
| 01:36.31 | troubled | yup |
| 01:36.35 | petemc | or is it rooves.... |
| 01:36.47 | troubled | shrugs |
| 01:37.03 | troubled | I know what you mean, but then again, im human. poor computers :( |
| 01:37.23 | Nielske | security wise I think it's better that bind9 is only listening on my home lan, not on the nic with public inet |
| 01:37.39 | troubled | Nielske: definetly |
| 01:37.54 | Nielske | need to search where to configure that |
| 01:38.05 | petemc | listen-on |
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| 01:39.03 | petemc | as it stands, you would probably notice the gigabytes of traffic it would take to exploit bind |
| 01:39.55 | troubled | unless you just have piss poor luck and they guess the 2 16bit values needed on the first try :) |
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| 01:46.49 | Gr33n3gg | What directory is software stored in? |
| 01:47.35 | stoned | what? |
| 01:47.41 | stoned | Gr33n3gg, packages.debian.org? |
| 01:47.59 | stoned | Gr33n3gg, various parts of softwares are installed in various places on the file system |
| 01:48.01 | Gr33n3gg | Nah, in the system. If I installed a package via dpkg, where would the software be stored? |
| 01:48.18 | stoned | Gr33n3gg, you can list the files that were installed by a package using dpkg -L |
| 01:48.29 | stoned | !tell Gr33n3gg -about search |
| 01:48.40 | Gr33n3gg | Hmm, I just installed Webmin and I need to change the pass. The article points to a Perl script, but the directory isnt there. |
| 01:48.50 | stoned | Gr33n3gg, I advise against webmin |
| 01:48.56 | stoned | !tell Gr33n3gg -about webmin |
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| 01:49.02 | nan8 | Gr33n3gg: please google for "fhs" filesystem hierarchy standard |
| 01:49.35 | Gr33n3gg | Figures, its /usr/share not /usr/libexec |
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| 01:49.44 | Gr33n3gg | Thanks anyway ;) |
| 01:49.53 | stoned | :) |
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| 01:56.19 | tame | is it possible for debian not to recognize my ethernet card after a kernel upgrade?? |
| 01:56.31 | peteweez | tame: If you built the kernel yourself. |
| 01:56.39 | peteweez | either the old or the new kernel |
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| 01:56.47 | tame | i did not either |
| 01:56.48 | mark4 | how would i rename a user yet leave everything else about that user intact? i would of course have to rename ~ and chown the contents thereof |
| 01:56.51 | Tekno | or added kernel module to old kernel |
| 01:56.51 | mark4 | but how would i do it? |
| 01:57.00 | tame | but iwconfig returns "command not found" |
| 01:57.07 | tame | and ifconfig shows only lo |
| 01:57.24 | peteweez | tame: No idea, sorry. |
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| 01:59.12 | asg | mark4: usermod / groupmod |
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| 02:01.38 | nentis | anyone know of a sarge mirror still out there and reachable? |
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| 02:01.52 | petemc | nentis: archive.debian.org |
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| 02:02.24 | nentis | heh, thx petemc. I swear I spend a good 10 minutes on google and poking around. |
| 02:03.15 | petemc | be aware the packages there dont get security updates |
| 02:03.18 | dob1 | how can i remove packages in rc state? |
| 02:03.24 | petemc | purge |
| 02:03.49 | asg | dob1: dpkg -P |
| 02:03.54 | dob1 | petemc: i tried apt-get --purge remove package but doesn't work |
| 02:03.59 | nentis | understood. This box is due to be wiped, but I need something temporary. |
| 02:04.13 | tame | how is it possible to lose the "iwconfig" command after upgrading the kernel? |
| 02:04.31 | dob1 | ok i try thanks |
| 02:04.42 | petemc | it shouldnt be, thats a userspace binary |
| 02:04.50 | petemc | tame: ^^ |
| 02:05.18 | asg | tame: does /sbin/iwconfig exist? |
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| 02:05.36 | tame | k, better question. how did i lose my ethernet card after upgrading the kernel |
| 02:05.37 | tame | ? |
| 02:06.41 | petemc | are you just making up questions? |
| 02:06.45 | mark4 | aha |
| 02:06.51 | mark4 | tnx |
| 02:06.54 | asg | upgrade as in 'apt-get upgrade' or as in 'I compiled something I downloaded off the net and booted it'? |
| 02:07.36 | tame | aptitude install linux-image-xxxxx |
| 02:08.54 | dob1 | asg: there is a way to remove all the packages in rc state? |
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| 02:09.33 | asg | dob1: dpkg -la | grep ^rc | xargs dpkg -P |
| 02:10.01 | tame | i installed etchnhalf kernel so i coul, use bcmlegacy |
| 02:10.08 | asg | dob1: if you are on an older debian, then change 'dpkg -la' to 'COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l' |
| 02:10.13 | tame | thats when i lost my ethernet card |
| 02:10.19 | xorl | does the full lenny Cd1 allow net install? |
| 02:10.26 | xorl | from nightly testing? |
| 02:10.39 | petemc | xorl: sshould do |
| 02:11.04 | xorl | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:11.16 | petemc | yz |
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| 02:11.26 | xorl | cool, figured so. |
| 02:11.29 | asg | dob1: sorry, there should be a "awk '{print $2}'" between the grep and the xargs pipes |
| 02:12.59 | tame | i lost my ethernet card after upgrading my kernel. is ther a way to fix this? obviously i cannot use apt since i have no internet connection from that box |
| 02:13.10 | petemc | and perhaps even no grep, seeing as awk can doo that |
| 02:13.30 | asg | petemc: indeed |
| 02:13.39 | dob1 | asg: i see running it that was not ok, hope i have not created any problem :) |
| 02:14.00 | asg | dob1: nah, the worst that can happen is that it failed and did nothing |
| 02:14.00 | petemc | tame: what kind of card? if need be, you should be able to boot into your old kernel |
| 02:14.19 | tame | i dont know how to boot into my old kernel because its yaboot |
| 02:14.31 | petemc | oh |
| 02:14.40 | petemc | oldd wworld mac? |
| 02:14.47 | tame | powerbook g4 |
| 02:14.59 | petemc | i think the repeat rate on my keyboard is not right |
| 02:15.27 | asg | !qotd131 |
| 02:15.27 | dpkg | < Raf256> wazup < Raf256> how can I change repeat rate and delay? < Raf256> in X < asg> Raf256: man xset < Raf256> asg: ok \o/ < Raf256> asg: oohh ddddaaaammnn < Raf256> ssssttuuppiiddd rrreeepppaaaattt rrrraaattee |
| 02:16.00 | petemc | how on earth ddid you remember that? :) |
| 02:16.10 | asg | petemc: /msg dpkg listvals |
| 02:16.16 | petemc | aah :) |
| 02:16.24 | asg | petemc: and some quick typing ... even on this netbook |
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| 02:17.45 | petemc | tame: ssorry, cant help you, used to use bootx back in the day, but havent bothered installing linux on my powerbook g4 |
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| 02:18.24 | petemc | which i love, but hate its weak as fuck power leads, of which ive went through 7.. |
| 02:20.04 | ozgurgerilla | Hi can someone help me with my Atheros wireless card please? |
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| 02:23.46 | petemc | ozgurgerilla: probably, be more descriptive |
| 02:24.12 | ozgurgerilla | ok, I've tried nearly everything with this but it doesn't seem to work |
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| 02:24.49 | ozgurgerilla | I have an Atheros wireless card: 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01) |
| 02:25.02 | dob1 | seems that removing all the rc files i created some problems : i am unable to start X, "X: unable to open wrapper config file /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config" how can i get/create this file? |
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| 02:26.10 | wireddd | so I just got an eeepc 1000, I am wondering how well sid is going to work on it, anyone know? |
| 02:26.36 | xorl | works pretty well |
| 02:26.46 | xorl | Installed it on a friends EeePC |
| 02:27.27 | wireddd | net install via thumb drive? |
| 02:28.42 | superjet_busy | dob1: dpkg-reconfigure x11-common |
| 02:29.06 | xorl | wireddd: yeah, there is a specific EeePC image for USB drives :) |
| 02:29.28 | wireddd | oh really? any idea where that is? |
| 02:29.57 | dob1 | superjet_busy: thanks |
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| 02:30.05 | superjet_busy | np |
| 02:30.06 | Zharf | wireddd, http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC |
| 02:30.15 | wireddd | Zharf: thanks |
| 02:30.35 | streuner_ | judd, versions k3b |
| 02:30.36 | judd | streuner_: k3b -- etch: 0.12.17-8 lenny: 1.0.5-3 sid: 1.0.5-3 |
| 02:30.43 | Zharf | I installed debian on this eeepc from a 64MB microSD card :> |
| 02:31.17 | stoned | k3b is awesome |
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| 02:31.59 | Zharf | stoned, it's not so awesome, it depends on alsa which is really annoying |
| 02:32.08 | Zharf | made me use wodim direclty :) |
| 02:32.23 | stoned | well yeah |
| 02:32.30 | stoned | it should depend on alsa |
| 02:32.37 | Zharf | it should NOT |
| 02:32.38 | stoned | thats not a bad thing |
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| 02:32.41 | stoned | yes it should |
| 02:32.52 | Zharf | I don't use alsa |
| 02:32.59 | stoned | any audio cd authoring tool allows you to playback what you have in your playlist |
| 02:33.01 | Zharf | so I don't want anything alsa related in my box |
| 02:33.13 | Zharf | stoned, sure, but I use oss, not alsa |
| 02:33.17 | stoned | Zharf, then use a audio cd burning tool |
| 02:33.46 | stoned | it should depend on a sound system, alsa or whatever doesn't matter |
| 02:34.11 | stoned | but it should be able to playback whatever. Incidentally alsa is king, so it wins. Oss is not, so it doesn't. |
| 02:34.12 | Zharf | stoned, agreed on some level but it should have the option |
| 02:34.15 | stoned | booya! |
| 02:34.17 | stoned | :) |
| 02:34.28 | stoned | Zharf, send in a few patches, make the option available. |
| 02:34.31 | Zharf | tell that to the alsa which doesn't work on my box |
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| 02:34.57 | Zharf | also I much rather use OSS interface than alsa, which is a total mess |
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| 02:50.41 | abusenode | hi, wahts the recommended pop3 that works with default exim install. |
| 02:50.51 | abusenode | also: why the god is there liek 300 pop3 servers |
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| 02:55.52 | abusenode | ... anyone? |
| 02:57.13 | petemc | dovecot works well |
| 02:57.36 | petemc | get the version from backports, tho |
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| 03:00.56 | abusenode | http://packages.debian.org/etch-backports/vim-nox < how do i install this |
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| 03:01.53 | petemc | !tell abusenode about backports |
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| 03:02.58 | abusenode | i just want freaking vim with syntax highlight |
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| 03:04.50 | bulio | I just did an aptitude upgrade, which upgraded the kernel and suggested a reboot when it was done |
| 03:05.08 | bulio | I rebooted, and now I can't ssh into the machine and it appears to not be serving any web pages |
| 03:05.11 | bulio | since I |
| 03:05.28 | bulio | *Since I'm not physically there right now, am I screwed? |
| 03:05.30 | abusenode | so walk over to it and see wahts up, or ipkvm/etc. |
| 03:05.49 | bulio | abusenode: Its an hour away from me |
| 03:06.40 | abusenode | look into remote management cards if you own proper server hardware. supermicro IPMI wiht ipkvm is absolutely great |
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| 03:07.28 | abusenode | (but yes, you're currently screwed) |
| 03:07.41 | bulio | alright, thanks |
| 03:07.51 | bulio | I guess I'll have to go check it out sometime this week |
| 03:07.57 | simonrvn | i imagine that stuff is too new and too x86-y to be of use on an old powerpc box... |
| 03:08.08 | abusenode | i would assume "cant ssh" would also equivalent to 'can't ping' as well? |
| 03:08.18 | bulio | abusenode: correct |
| 03:08.24 | abusenode | well then its dead. what do you expect to do about it. |
| 03:09.52 | bulio | abusenode: go to the physical location and check the problem out |
| 03:10.05 | abusenode | well, im not going there for you. |
| 03:10.13 | superjet_busy | a txt file was recognized as data, howto to convert, cat foo or saved as from browser and writer don't work |
| 03:11.08 | superjet_busy | enca foo -> Universal transformation format 8 bits; UTF-8 Surrounded by/intermixed with non-text data |
| 03:11.24 | abusenode | so what do i add to sources for backports. |
| 03:11.37 | abusenode | why is none of this stuff explained anywhre |
| 03:11.39 | abusenode | properly |
| 03:11.56 | orzo | "There is no maintainer for fso-frameworkd. Please do not report new bugs against this package." -- So what do i do with patches to fix bugs that aren't in teh database? |
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| 03:17.29 | xorl | hmm i have a weird error on the debian livecd |
| 03:18.30 | xorl | says missing firmware files bnx2-06-4.0.5.fw |
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| 03:29.47 | enouf | abusenode: what? /msg dpkg backports |
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| 03:31.05 | enouf | orzo: apply to become the maintainer? |
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| 03:31.46 | enouf | orzo: or, seek out upstream for whatever the home page / author is |
| 03:34.16 | enouf | superjet_busy: is that output from 'file filename.txt' ? |
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| 03:37.33 | xorl | ok i think i found the fix for that |
| 03:37.39 | xorl | need firmware-bnx2 from proposed updates |
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| 03:38.54 | superjet_busy | enouf: yes, file shows it's data file |
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| 03:40.13 | enouf | superjet_busy: well what happens when you view it with cat or a pager like less? |
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| 03:41.17 | superjet_busy | enouf: no strange things |
| 03:41.46 | enouf | so what's the issue superjet_busy ? |
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| 03:43.57 | superjet_busy | enouf: maybe it's file's bug, i guess t can't handle some special chars when it find some then give data judgment |
| 03:44.09 | superjet_busy | s/t/it |
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| 03:48.05 | enouf | superjet_busy: i've heard and experienced a file bug about incorrect recognition of PNG files, not what you mention |
| 03:48.33 | cads | do you guys know of a hash function which can give the hash of a directory tree? |
| 03:49.16 | adb | cads: try #bash ? |
| 03:49.51 | cads | they might know |
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| 03:51.52 | enouf | cads: 'help hash' is no use? |
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| 03:53.50 | cads | hrm |
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| 03:54.42 | cads | no, but it is cool to know |
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| 03:55.42 | cads | I'm speaking of hashing in the sense of a generating a checksum or cryptographic digest of some data, like the md5sum function does |
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| 03:56.36 | enouf | well .. you could run md5/md5sum on it. ..as well as sha1/sha256 etc |
| 03:57.00 | superjet_busy | enouf: it's a little weird, file works now after remove ^? chars from the file, enca -> Universal transformation format 8 bits; UTF-8 and file -> UTF-8 Unicode text, with very long lines |
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| 04:00.11 | enouf | superjet_busy: Different terminals can have different settings for certain keys, Backspace especially (some uses ^? for example). http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Control_keys |
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| 04:01.25 | superjet_busy | enouf: thanks a lot, to have a look :) |
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| 04:02.10 | enouf | superjet_busy: might want to take a look also at man console_codes |
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| 04:02.24 | superjet_busy | enouf: ok. |
| 04:02.42 | cads | enouf, I've though of a scheme whereby the digest of a directory would be defined as the md5sum of the concatenation of the md5 signatures of all the objects in the directory, recursively applied for subdirectories |
| 04:03.50 | cads | but can't find a package that'll do something like that, so I think it's time for a fun coding session |
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| 04:05.43 | cads | the result will be a function should be a function that can tell you with pretty good confidence when two directory trees are bit for bit identical |
| 04:06.04 | cads | ... yeah, I messed that up a bit |
| 04:06.19 | smacnay | What is the recommended way to mount an hfs file system and read/copy files? This is on an external usb hard drive. |
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| 04:06.43 | smacnay | Install hfsplus? |
| 04:07.30 | smacnay | Mounting directly does not allow me to see the files as they are in some sort of fs that needs some special tools. |
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| 04:07.43 | enouf | cads: well debsums does it for debs |
| 04:08.08 | enouf | cads: IIRC .. though are tools to do that |
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| 04:09.40 | smacnay | got it |
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| 04:11.42 | d-b | tripwire |
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| 04:15.05 | newsense | following this guide > http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9311 to make a udev rule to backup a thumb drive but seems to me this rule might not work with lennys ver of udev, can anyone verify ? |
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| 04:15.56 | Torgoton | Hey all. I'm trying to do a netboot install of Ubuntu... and debian-installer is segfaulting. Anyone here have any interest in checking this out with me? |
| 04:16.13 | Torgoton | oh yeah, it's segfaulting every ten seconds. |
| 04:16.31 | craigevil | !ubuntu |
| 04:16.31 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
| 04:17.19 | Torgoton | well thanks, craigevil, but I'm sure you know #ubuntu isn't exactly useful for difficult issues. |
| 04:17.51 | craigevil | doesnt matter this is #debian ubuntu isnt supported |
| 04:17.54 | Torgoton | And of course, the geniuses there suggested I try here, since debian-installer is the program that seems to be failing. |
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| 04:22.53 | Torgoton | So when debian asks which modules to download for use during installation, and if I'm using a machine with a 486 and installing over a PCMCIA NIC, which modules should I select? |
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| 04:49.10 | stoned | Torgoton, start installing debian. then you will find serious support here. |
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| 04:49.32 | Torgoton | Thanks stoned. |
| 04:49.40 | stoned | Torgoton, if you don't find the ubuntu community to be as helful and switch to a linux distro whose community DOES know things |
| 04:49.52 | stoned | s/and/then |
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| 04:50.08 | Torgoton | stoned, oh I know. I'm usually a Fedora fan, but Fedora requires a Pentium. |
| 04:50.28 | abusenode | protip: install on hardware from this century |
| 04:50.40 | Torgoton | ah what fun is that? |
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| 04:50.54 | abusenode | i wasnt aware using a computer involved "fun" |
| 04:51.20 | Torgoton | You're just here for abuse then? |
| 04:51.31 | stoned | stop. |
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| 04:53.03 | Torgoton | Somebody needs a hug. |
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| 04:57.33 | yert | What's the package name for the artwiz fonts? |
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| 04:58.14 | yert | xfonts-artwiz2 doesn't appear to be it. |
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| 05:00.27 | Request | Free Programming E-books With Direct Links & Request Ebooks http://www.request-ebooks.blogspot.com/ |
| 05:01.58 | stoned | Request, stop it |
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| 05:16.49 | f00li5h | is there a debian friendly way to run many instances of apache?) |
| 05:16.56 | f00li5h | none of my init scripts will work correctly with the additional instances (for example) |
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| 05:25.13 | dav- | what's the preferred tool to configure xorg these days? |
| 05:26.11 | stew | dav-: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 05:26.43 | wireddd | I cannot get the sound working on this eeepc |
| 05:27.08 | wireddd | I should have tested it in the default os before loading debian to make sure it wasn't broken |
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| 05:29.25 | dav- | stew: thx, but that asks me nother about which video mode i want or which driver i want to use? |
| 05:30.13 | stew | dav-: right, it tries to detect this at runtime now instead |
| 05:30.38 | dav- | stew: well the video mode it chooses isn't supported by my monitor :( |
| 05:30.46 | dav- | anyway to force 640x480 for testing? |
| 05:30.53 | stew | dav-: you can override the automatic runtime detection by specifying a more specific /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 05:31.15 | stew | dav-: or if you want a 'configurator' for an xorg.conf which will be more specific, try 'X -configure" |
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| 05:36.46 | dav- | stew: thx. I think I've found the issue. The syntax "Option "PreferredMode" "XYZ"" is not supported by this card's driver. Do you happen to know what the appropriate syntax is to force a Mode? |
| 05:37.45 | stew | dav-: i have no idea what you are talking about. what is the driver name? "man drivername" should show you all the available options |
| 05:38.47 | dav- | stew: yep that's what i'm doing now. thx for the help. |
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| 05:43.49 | superlinux | hi all |
| 05:44.14 | superlinux | i am looking for _the_ most real and genuine UNIX system. how can i have it? is there a link? |
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| 05:47.37 | optraz | hi, is it possible to test if the ssh to a remote server using password or public/private key ? |
| 05:47.54 | itai-michaelson | superlinux, http://www.unix.org/ |
| 05:48.20 | superlinux | ok |
| 05:48.26 | dav- | stew: man nv does not indicate how to force the use of a certain mode. could it be possible that there's no way and that I'd have to type ctrl+alt+"+" everytime i startx? |
| 05:52.16 | optraz | hi, is it possible to test if the ssh to a remote server using password or public/private key ? |
| 05:53.27 | dav- | optraz: what do you mean? |
| 05:54.08 | optraz | dav- i want to check if ssh to the system using public/private key or password |
| 05:54.11 | abusenode | is there a working way to portforward without using redir |
| 05:55.32 | dav- | optraz: a remote system? your system? from inside a session? from a script? context pls.. |
| 05:56.12 | stew | dav-: try seeing if xrandr offers other modes to switch to |
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| 05:56.34 | optraz | dav- from my laptop (script) , i want to check if ssh to the remote system using public/private key authentication / password based |
| 05:57.03 | dav- | stew: and put a call to xrandr in xinit? |
| 05:57.11 | abusenode | looks like rinetd will work. |
| 05:57.35 | stew | dav-: yes, if you can get xrandr to get you into the right resolution |
| 05:57.35 | dav- | optraz: is your script able to "type in" a password? if not, it must be using a key.. |
| 05:57.41 | dav- | stew: that's the "preferred way" ? |
| 05:58.03 | stew | dav-: afaik |
| 05:58.19 | optraz | dav-: not so clear |
| 05:58.44 | dav- | stew: btw other problem is virtual desktop is too large. I don't think xrandr will let me change that. and the Virtual line in the Display section seems to get ignored :( |
| 06:02.14 | optraz | dav- PasswordAuthentication=no to the ssh command :) |
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| 06:41.32 | ryanCH | i heard the, "shred" command isn't very effective on an ext3 fs, is this true?... |
| 06:43.33 | abusenode | ryanCH: you got something to hide? |
| 06:43.50 | ryanCH | O.O |
| 06:43.55 | ryanCH | who wants to know ? ;p |
| 06:43.59 | ryanCH | j/k |
| 06:44.09 | ryanCH | i was just curious about that ;p |
| 06:44.49 | mhymn | you googled that? i remember i've read something about that before |
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| 06:45.24 | ryanCH | it actually says that in, "man shred" i believe |
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| 07:00.27 | hoxu | ryanCH, or any journaling filesystem. You could shred the files once and sync after that though |
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| 07:15.13 | stoned | where can I find qyoto in debian? I've looked through packages debian net but I didn't it |
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| 07:15.25 | stoned | does anyone know of another source other than the source hehehe |
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| 07:16.16 | GKarr | Hello :-) Can someone explain me the relationship of boot options - which you set or unset at the grub boot prompt for ex. "noacpi" - and init scripts? How can I determine which kernel boot option changes which init script to get its effect? |
| 07:16.27 | stoned | nm its quoto-dev |
| 07:16.29 | stoned | doh |
| 07:16.43 | mhymn | hmm |
| 07:17.17 | syslq | OMG JAVA GUI CODING SUCKS |
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| 07:19.33 | stoned | yeh it does |
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| 07:20.00 | hoxu | syslq, java -> ##java, opinions -> #defocus |
| 07:20.17 | GKarr | Or do the kernel boot options change something other than init scripts? |
| 07:20.22 | stoned | qyoto is nice |
| 07:20.31 | hoxu | GKarr, they change the kernel behaviour |
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| 07:21.25 | ghaleb_ | hello, I'm trying to use LDAP for authentication, I get results from ldapsearch -x, libnss-ldap.conf , ldap.conf and nsswitch.conf configured this way: http://rafb.net/p/m0iGQZ77.html |
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| 07:22.40 | hanibana_ | hello :) |
| 07:23.07 | hanibana_ | is there any FreeBSD active IRC channel ? |
| 07:23.14 | GKarr | hoxu: So, all the options and their behaviour - speak: their implementation - are compiled into the kernel or some module. There is no externel "object" - something like a script or a config file - that point to them ? |
| 07:23.31 | hoxu | hanibana_, as #freebsd topic points, ##freebsd |
| 07:23.36 | GKarr | hanibana_: ##FreeBSD |
| 07:24.15 | hoxu | GKarr, hum yes, as far as I know... those are *kernel* parameters after all |
| 07:26.03 | GKarr | I just want to understand how they "work" - aka I want to be able to get a list of possible boot options of the actual Debian Linux kernel and their possible settings or I want to be able to say these boot options I want to have in the kernel on my system - |
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| 07:26.59 | KnomeDE | when i try to boot the livecd i just get "hda: lost interrupt", any suggestions? |
| 07:27.43 | mhymn | hehe, nice nick btw |
| 07:27.50 | GKarr | i searched already for some Docs but I can only find very general - and very old - docs or they are for some specific distro and release and I cannot get what the general method is |
| 07:28.43 | hoxu | GKarr, what are you actually trying to do? Just documentation? Learning? |
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| 07:29.04 | GKarr | hoxu: First step is learning yes |
| 07:29.04 | hanibana | hoxu, GKarr: this channel is empty :( |
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| 07:29.53 | mhymn | hanibana: what channel? |
| 07:30.14 | hanibana | mhymn: ##FreeBSD |
| 07:30.26 | GKarr | hoxu: Then I want - as I described determine the "capabilities" of the stock Debian kernel what boot options it gives me and so on - |
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| 07:30.59 | mhymn | hanibana: you sure? you're mistaken |
| 07:31.34 | GKarr | hoxu: The next step would be to specify - somehow - which boot options my own kernel should have. |
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| 07:31.47 | hanibana | mhymn: really?! I have even identified myself... |
| 07:32.03 | hanibana | But, still does NOT display users.... |
| 07:32.26 | hoxu | GKarr, you don't usually need to specify kernel parameters unless something doesn't work |
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| 07:33.53 | GKarr | hoxu: I know, but there are times where I could need it - in the last days I used the kernel boot option "toram" on another distro and i would want to know if Debians would give it to me or howI can make it possibble - |
| 07:34.25 | GKarr | hoxu: And for this I need to know how they "work" |
| 07:34.29 | the-dude | oops |
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| 07:39.09 | hoxu | GKarr, whether some option is supported has to do with the kernel version used, not distro |
| 07:39.52 | hoxu | GKarr, look at Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt in the linux-2.6 tree |
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| 07:55.04 | GKarr | hoxu: Thank you, I will read that - although I found some similar text here http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/x86_64/boot-options.txt but I cannot determine if this would also be usable for the Debian kernel - |
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| 08:07.04 | Gh0stS3ssion | looking for a good Debian/VirtualBox tutorial/guide.... |
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| 08:09.38 | mhymn | Gh0stS3ssion: debian wiki? |
| 08:09.56 | Gh0stS3ssion | mhymm, checked... its kk tho |
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| 08:18.46 | TwistOfFate | how do i setup qos on debian? |
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| 08:21.48 | mhymn | TwistOfFate: /msg dpkg qos ? |
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| 08:58.00 | mhymn | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:01.24 | Ademan | i suppose that'd work fine huh? thanks mhymn |
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| 09:23.47 | kladizkov | have you seem any page display problems in firefox 3? |
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| 09:24.08 | nullboy | i think everyone has seen at least a few |
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| 09:24.22 | nullboy | at one point or another |
| 09:24.30 | kladizkov | in my lenny, firefox 3 sometimes displays pages not in a proper way...pages will be displayed in other browers fine...but not in firefox 3 |
| 09:24.52 | kladizkov | is it a firefox 3 issue or any libraries of linux? |
| 09:25.07 | nullboy | here's the sick part; it's probably because firefox is trying to follow standards |
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| 09:28.34 | lostson | lol |
| 09:28.41 | flokuehn | its 10:28 am right now in germany |
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| 09:29.54 | nullboy | i'm -8UTC |
| 09:30.05 | nullboy | 1:29AM |
| 09:30.20 | Gr33n3gg | you're on timezone ahead of me |
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| 09:30.29 | Gr33n3gg | one** |
| 09:30.37 | nullboy | california PST |
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| 09:32.03 | hoxu | !offtopic |
| 09:32.04 | dpkg | A little off-topic conversation is okay here and there, but not too much, and not when the channel's busy, and not if it's your primary reason for being here. please join #debian-offtopic |
| 09:32.24 | melfar | Hey guys, I've got an issue that a service running on 10.0.0.2:8001 can't be accessed via 127.0.0.1:8001, where 10.0.0.2 is the ip address of localhost. How can I make it work also from 127.0.0.1 and 'localhost' ? |
| 09:32.25 | hoxu | (Merry Christmas ;) |
| 09:32.48 | nullboy | what was "on topic" in the last 3 minutes anyway? |
| 09:32.56 | nullboy | really not a big deal but whatever |
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| 09:34.14 | simonrvn | IT IS A BIG DEAL!!!11!!!1!!!1 |
| 09:34.15 | hoxu | melfar, no way to make the service listen on 127.0.0.1 too? I'm not sure if it works, but you could try forwarding using iptables (not sure if it works for 127.0.0.1) |
| 09:34.20 | simonrvn | :P |
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| 09:34.30 | simonrvn | oneoneone |
| 09:34.47 | Gr33n3gg | INT +1 DEX -1 |
| 09:35.30 | melfar | hoxu, so it's not supposed to forward that by default? |
| 09:35.48 | hoxu | melfar, I trust your word on it not working :P |
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| 09:36.32 | nullboy | melfar: is the service setup to listen on all interfaces or just the interface that 10.0.0.1 is set on? |
| 09:36.34 | melfar | hoxu, I just figured something might be broken with my machine |
| 09:37.39 | hoxu | nullboy, do sockets listen on interfaces? I was kinda thinking only ip + port is given |
| 09:37.42 | melfar | It says CP *:8001 (LISTEN) in lsof |
| 09:37.57 | melfar | TCP sorry |
| 09:38.44 | simonrvn | so 0.0.0.0 basically |
| 09:39.03 | hoxu | melfar, weird, it's listening for all addresses |
| 09:39.03 | hachi | anyone know how to get xen domU working in lenny? |
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| 09:39.15 | hachi | http://hachi.kuiki.net/software_problems/20081224-xen-lenny/startup_log.txt |
| 09:39.28 | melfar | hoxu, I try telnet localhost 8001 and get nothing |
| 09:39.38 | hachi | I get an error about vif unable to connect, hotplug not working |
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| 09:39.46 | hachi | hotplug is fine (provided via udev) |
| 09:39.53 | melfar | Although, with telnet 10.0.0.2 8001 I get a response |
| 09:40.40 | hachi | a la: http://hachi.kuiki.net/software_problems/20081224-xen-lenny/startup_log.txt |
| 09:40.45 | nullboy | hoxu: just try it for yourself with sshd. if you set sshd_config to listen on specific IPs and don't spec 127.0.0.1, you will not be able to ssh to 127.0.0.1 like you can if you spec any interface (0.0.0.0) in sshd_config.... |
| 09:40.58 | nullboy | hoxu: so yes, the settings for the service could and do matter. |
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| 09:41.59 | melfar | nullboy, just checked how the service is started, it uses address 0.0.0.0 |
| 09:42.16 | nullboy | melfar: check any existing iptables rules |
| 09:42.30 | hoxu | melfar, if you get nothing, then it's connected :P |
| 09:43.03 | melfar | hoxu, it doesn't say so, it says trying :) |
| 09:43.16 | nullboy | melfar: tcpdump you system |
| 09:43.19 | nullboy | see what is going on |
| 09:43.21 | hoxu | nullboy, yes, but you mentioned "all interfaces or just the interface that 10.0.0.1 is set on" which confuses me |
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| 09:43.22 | nullboy | you/your |
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| 09:43.54 | hoxu | melfar, check your firewall? |
| 09:44.16 | nullboy | hoxu: how does that confuse you? either it is set to listen on all interfaces, some interfaces, or one interface and in his case, the one interface is set as 10.0.0.1...this is hard to understand? |
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| 09:45.05 | hoxu | nullboy, as far as I know, you provide listening addresses, not interfaces |
| 09:45.50 | melfar | I see lots of DROP IN=lo OUT= lines in syslog. (DROP is added by an iptables log rule) |
| 09:45.59 | nullboy | hoxu: do you also understand that these addresses are set to certain interfaces? |
| 09:46.09 | nullboy | you "get" that, right? |
| 09:46.33 | hoxu | nullboy, that's beside the point, if you meant addresses when you said interfaces, then it makes sense to me |
| 09:46.40 | nullboy | mmmhmmm |
| 09:47.04 | hoxu | melfar, what about ports and so on? |
| 09:47.24 | nullboy | hoxu: are you done splitting short and curlies now? like your little OT ramble? |
| 09:47.43 | hoxu | melfar, do you have "iptables -I INPUT 1 -i lo -j ACCEPT" rule? |
| 09:47.49 | melfar | hoxu, there're no specific rules for 127.0.0.* in iptables, there're rules for 10.0.* which permit 4000:65536 |
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| 09:49.24 | hoxu | melfar, what about allowing loopback? |
| 09:49.39 | melfar | hoxu, yup, added it -- localhost:8001 worked like a charm |
| 09:49.59 | hoxu | melfar, you probably want to have the rule I mentioned above |
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| 09:50.43 | melfar | hoxu, the only thing I'm wondering about is why it worked in the past |
| 09:50.43 | hoxu | melfar, instead of any 127.0. |
| 09:50.45 | hoxu | err, rules |
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| 09:51.05 | hoxu | melfar, did you use 127.0.0.1 to access it earlier? Or perhaps the rule was accidentally removed from iptables? |
| 09:52.25 | melfar | Yes, I used it, and I don't think iptables have changed recently, and the server has been up for a month |
| 09:52.46 | melfar | Maybe some debian update or a package changed it |
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| 09:53.18 | melfar | Although, there's another person who has access to the server, I should check if he did anything yesterday |
| 09:53.24 | hoxu | :) |
| 09:54.11 | jelly | melfar: is the lo device up and configured with the usual address? |
| 09:54.44 | melfar | jelly, it's in ifconfig with inet addr 127.0.0.1 Mask 255.0.0.0 |
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| 09:59.36 | melfar | Yep, there used to be a line in the iptables saying -A INPUT -s 127.0.0.1 -d 127.0.0.1 -i lo -j ACCEPT. Now there isn't one, probably that other guy's fault |
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| 10:10.38 | jelly | silly people with REJECT or DROP as defaults |
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| 10:12.52 | melfar | jelly, you accept everything and drop specific addresses? |
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| 10:13.45 | jelly | melfar: in general I take care of eth0, and accept everything else (lo, eth1) |
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| 10:13.56 | jelly | and policy ACCEPT, yes |
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| 10:14.31 | jelly | (eth0 being the outside faced interface) |
| 10:14.57 | jelly | it's all a matter of taste anyway |
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| 10:20.44 | simonrvn | !zignig |
| 10:20.44 | dpkg | somebody said zignig was someone who has too much time on their hands |
| 10:20.51 | simonrvn | heh |
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| 10:26.31 | jelly | whut |
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| 10:34.49 | zignig | !helix |
| 10:34.50 | dpkg | i heard helix is open multi-format digital media platform http://www.helixcommunity.org/, or double |
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| 10:36.42 | zignig | !seen helix |
| 10:36.43 | dpkg | helix <~e@amnesiac.heapspace.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian-ops, 1d 12h 15m 26s ago, saying: 'but he is always so cleverly disguised'. |
| 10:38.28 | hoxu | jelly, in my opinion DROP policy is much better if you want to block something in the first place |
| 10:38.51 | hoxu | something as in everythin except... :P |
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| 10:41.03 | simonrvn | block everything, then punch holes |
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| 10:42.31 | Seriously | Are there any other sites such as tinyurl? |
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| 10:42.44 | mhymn | yes, google knows |
| 10:43.12 | mhymn | seriously! |
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| 10:43.32 | zignig | mhymn: always remember google know more about you than you do. |
| 10:43.53 | mhymn | wut? |
| 10:44.00 | mhymn | but ok! |
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| 10:49.00 | jelly | xurl? |
| 10:49.14 | zignig | jelly: wobble on dude. |
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| 11:01.32 | nicko | does etch run on p45 chipset? |
| 11:04.55 | SlayerXP | what's a p45 chipset? |
| 11:05.19 | mhymn | it should, why not?!? |
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| 11:07.04 | nicko | SlayerXP: http://www.intel.com/products/desktop/chipsets/p45/p45-overview.htm |
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| 11:07.33 | nicko | mhymn: because it is new and etch is old, so it may not, I don't know, checking |
| 11:07.45 | mhymn | consider using 'etchnhalf' in case you're in doubt |
| 11:07.56 | mhymn | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:08.12 | nicko | mhymn: I know |
| 11:08.19 | mhymn | good |
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| 11:10.11 | zignig | SlayerXP: it's a little black thing with little silver legs hanging off the sides. |
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| 11:20.00 | ubuntoil | hello, I have some trouble finding the way to had repositories...I'm a newb |
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| 11:21.40 | SlayerXP | ubuntoil: are you using ubuntu? |
| 11:21.59 | ubuntoil | SlayerXP: debian lenny |
| 11:23.06 | JyZyXEL | SlayerXP you using XP? |
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| 11:23.43 | SlayerXP | JyZyXEL: no, Vista |
| 11:24.03 | JyZyXEL | nice |
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| 11:24.41 | hoxu | !tell ubuntoil -about sources.list |
| 11:25.17 | JyZyXEL | !tell JyZyXEL about selftell |
| 11:25.46 | macbroadcast | hello |
| 11:25.47 | macbroadcast | anyone using apples darwin streaming server on debian ? |
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| 11:26.30 | JyZyXEL | !anyone |
| 11:26.30 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls>, or <search> |
| 11:26.50 | macbroadcast | in want to apply a patch and would like to know if i should need the "socket6" perl stuff or is it just needet on osx ? http://tinyurl.com/7cqyyh |
| 11:27.03 | macbroadcast | 1. Abstract |
| 11:27.03 | macbroadcast | This module supports getaddrinfo() and getnameinfo() to intend to |
| 11:27.03 | macbroadcast | enable protocol independent programing. |
| 11:27.03 | macbroadcast | If your environment supports IPv6, IPv6 related defines such as |
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| 11:27.37 | macbroadcast | sorry |
| 11:28.09 | macbroadcast | so IF the eviroment DEBIAN in this case allready does its NOT required ? |
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| 11:28.42 | Jemt | Greetz. I have Debian installed onto a USB Flash Device which contains two partitions; root (/) and boot (/boot). Gnome automatically mounts the /boot partition into /media/disk which I don't want. But on the other hand, I don't want to disable the Volume Manager, as other USB devices should be mounted like this. Therefore I have created a udev rule that maps the partitions of my Debian USB device to /dev/mp[n]. That way I will get "/dev/mp2 => |
| 11:28.42 | Jemt | sda2". This makes it possible for me to create a shell script that unmounts the volume, as I now have a symlink to the actual device (sd[a|b|c|d|..]2). Unfortunately I can only umount the new device (/dev/mp2) as root, even though I'm able to umount /dev/sda2 as the ordinary Debian user. Why is that? Why is the behavior not the same? |
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| 11:30.24 | Misterjos | !lenny stable |
| 11:30.59 | Jemt | Misterjos, You can do: /msg dpkg <search> |
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| 11:33.16 | Misterjos | lol, its a rude bot Jemt |
| 11:33.25 | Jemt | Hehe :) |
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| 11:41.08 | Jemt | Hm, guess I can do the following, in order to umount the actual device: |
| 11:41.08 | Jemt | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:41.18 | Jemt | linux_partition2* |
| 11:44.00 | Jemt | BRB |
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| 12:12.41 | Zhoste | I've downloaded the testing netinstall release for amd64 two different ways, and burned it on two different CDs, and both failed to copy the same file when I installed. Is there something going on with the release? |
| 12:13.07 | Gr33n3gg | What file failed to copy? |
| 12:14.57 | Zhoste | ...I've forgotten... |
| 12:15.22 | Zhoste | Now that I think of it, that's probably something that I should have written down. Nobody else has come in here with this problem? |
| 12:15.56 | MariachiAC | how do I view a list of groups available on the system? |
| 12:16.35 | mhymn | MariachiAC: getent group |
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| 12:18.49 | mx | hi |
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| 12:18.52 | anonymous_00 | hello everybody, can anyone tell me what mount-option nodev do? I read the man page |
| 12:19.00 | mx | whats the command to unpack a tar.gz file? |
| 12:19.20 | mhymn | !tell mx -about grounding |
| 12:19.35 | anonymous_00 | http://info.eps.surrey.ac.uk/FAQ/unpack.html |
| 12:19.38 | Gr33n3gg | tar xvzf file.tar.gz |
| 12:19.44 | mx | thanks |
| 12:20.00 | TwistOfFate | anyone got the entry i need in my sources.list for lenny security updates? |
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| 12:20.43 | mx | ag its note ven tar |
| 12:20.46 | mx | its only gz |
| 12:20.49 | Gr33n3gg | TwistOfFate: http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:tzQoUA53uKcJ:www.paolinoland.it/index2.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26do_pdf%3D1%26id%3D24+lenny+repository+debian&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=ca&client=firefox-a |
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| 12:21.27 | anonymous_00 | anyone noticed my question? ^^^ |
| 12:21.29 | TwistOfFate | !security lenn |
| 12:21.33 | TwistOfFate | !security lenny |
| 12:21.38 | lostson | TwistOfFate: deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib |
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| 12:22.16 | xand | anonymous_00: the mount man page does say. |
| 12:22.32 | anonymous_00 | Do not interpret character or block special devices on the file system. |
| 12:22.40 | MariachiAC | How do I add a user to an existing group? |
| 12:22.40 | MariachiAC | useradd -g group_name user? |
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| 12:22.49 | anonymous_00 | what is character and special devices? |
| 12:23.09 | Gr33n3gg | useradd -G groupname user |
| 12:23.45 | mhymn | or 'adduser user group' |
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| 12:24.14 | Zhoste | I've found the file. |
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| 12:24.25 | Zhoste | jfsutils-udev won't copy. On both CDs. |
| 12:24.36 | MariachiAC | thank you |
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| 12:25.49 | mhymn | Zhoste: you sure about their MD5? |
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| 12:27.16 | TwistOfFate | to make a comment in sources.list, you just prepend the line with # right? |
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| 12:27.35 | Gr33n3gg | Yes. |
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| 12:28.35 | TwistOfFate | ok, i'm set. |
| 12:28.37 | TwistOfFate | time to upgrade to lenny. |
| 12:28.50 | d-b | TwistOfFate: ^^ |
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| 12:29.47 | Zhoste | MD5s don't match. Maybe I tried the wrong one/ |
| 12:30.10 | Zhoste | ...i did |
| 12:32.25 | mirak | hi |
| 12:32.46 | mirak | how can I know if v4l-dvb multiproto drivers are in a kernel ? |
| 12:33.05 | Zhoste | I can't find the MD5SUM for debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso. Could someone paste it, or tell me where to look? |
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| 12:33.26 | Zambezi | Anyone with Asus P5Q motherboard who managed to install Debian? Cause I can't, both USB-memory and DVD-drive won't work. It can't find any drives at all. |
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| 12:35.08 | mhymn | Zhoste: take a look: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/amd64/iso-cd/ |
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| 12:35.45 | mhymn | Zambezi: etch? |
| 12:36.01 | Nielske | iptables question |
| 12:36.03 | Nielske | http://paste.debian.net/24362/ |
| 12:36.12 | Nielske | what's the purpose of first doing the depmod -a |
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| 12:37.43 | d-b | man |
| 12:37.45 | d-b | man depmod |
| 12:38.13 | Zambezi | mhymn: Yes. But Ubuntu Hardy Server crashes directly, Fedora don't even begin the installation. I'm trying everything, soon even Windows just to see so all the hardware works. |
| 12:38.53 | Zambezi | mhymn: Now, I'm thinking about trying Debian Lenny daily build (netinstall). |
| 12:39.11 | mhymn | Zambezi: or you might want to try 'etchnhalf' |
| 12:39.11 | dante_2core | Zambezi, try lenny. lots more hardware recognized. did the job on my eeepc where etch didn't. |
| 12:39.57 | mhymn | Zambezi: or the same etch but with the latest backports kernel |
| 12:40.28 | dondelelcaro | Nielske: it shouldn't be necessary unless you just built modules |
| 12:40.57 | dondelelcaro | (like the name sounds, it calculates module dependencies) |
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| 12:42.06 | Zambezi | mhymn, dante_2core: Lenny now, but burning a CD or installing from USB-memory? |
| 12:42.06 | dante_2core | afk, beep me or leave msg in query if important |
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| 12:42.30 | Zhoste | Could someone tell me where to find the MD5SUM for debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso ? |
| 12:42.43 | earthian | Hello, I have this network problem: some webpages do not load without a reason on LAN computers behind my Debian etch router which is connected to the internet. Could somebody help me debug the cause of this? |
| 12:43.04 | d-b | earthian: try disabling ipv6 in firefox |
| 12:43.09 | d-b | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:43.21 | earthian | i see! |
| 12:43.22 | d-b | otherwise, try the usual wireshark / ping / traceroutes |
| 12:43.24 | mhymn | Zambezi: i'd recommend cd, didn't used usb myself so far |
| 12:43.25 | earthian | How do I do this? |
| 12:43.46 | earthian | also I can ping / traceroute all the websites including the ones that do not load |
| 12:44.17 | earthian | Firefox on inside LAN computers how an error that the connection was interrupted |
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| 12:44.24 | earthian | how=show |
| 12:45.24 | Zambezi | mhymn: Then CD it is. Ironiclly I built this computer as a fileserver to host all my storagedrives. So it's important it'll work. I tried both controllercard and onboard. The controllercard worked like a treat in Ubuntu earlier. Surely same in Debian, but then that computer broke. |
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| 12:47.08 | alukard404 | ÐдеÑÑ Ð¶Ðµ по ÑÑÑÑки можно? |
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| 12:47.19 | d-b | neit |
| 12:47.23 | Zhoste | Does anyone have the MD5 for debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso? |
| 12:47.24 | zamuro | !ru |
| 12:47.24 | dpkg | Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @ irc.freenode.net |
| 12:47.26 | d-b | this is an english speaking room. |
| 12:47.40 | alukard404 | Thank you |
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| 12:48.02 | mhymn | Zhoste: i gave you above! |
| 12:48.35 | Zhoste | oh, sorry |
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| 12:50.57 | earthian | d-b, how do I disable IPv6 on my local network? |
| 12:50.57 | whistler_tr | hi all, anyone knows Bind DNS server here? I'm curious if I can bind 1 ip adress for 2 totally different domain name. |
| 12:51.08 | zamuro | !anyone |
| 12:51.08 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls>, or <search> |
| 12:51.33 | slacker_nl | i have a a file /path/to/b.sh and there is a symlink /another/path/to/c.sh, and b.sh uses dirname $0, but when executing c, the dirname is incorrect, what application/cmd can i use to get the correct dirname? |
| 12:51.46 | earthian | whistler_tr, you can do this with apache virtual hosts if it is only for www, otherwise i am not sure. |
| 12:51.48 | whistler_tr | lol ok then, let me ask this way ;) -> Bind DNS server here? I'm curious if I can bind 1 ip adress for 2 totally different domain name. |
| 12:52.08 | whistler_tr | earthian: thx for the info. but i need that thing for email setups. |
| 12:52.15 | petemc | course you can |
| 12:52.36 | whistler_tr | see i ve only 1 ip adress and 4 different domain names, all working on a debian box with apache running them. |
| 12:52.51 | earthian | whistler_tr, I think you can not use same IP for two different DNS names.. however you can use one IP for one DNS and use CNAME elsewhere |
| 12:52.53 | whistler_tr | the thing is i cannot set up reverse dns address for those domains |
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| 12:53.05 | earthian | oh |
| 12:53.06 | slacker_nl | whistler_tr: that is correct |
| 12:53.08 | nul | merry christmas |
| 12:53.26 | Zhoste | What's 'etchnhalf'? |
| 12:53.32 | d-b | !etch and a half |
| 12:53.40 | d-b | mmm dpkg ? |
| 12:53.42 | whistler_tr | yes, there is nothing wrong with dns. but as you know mail servers check for reverse dns also else they mark email as "spam" so thats why im tryin to use one ip adress for all my domains reverse dns address also. |
| 12:53.50 | JyZyXEL | hey yea what is it? |
| 12:53.53 | nul | i want to copy recursive files from a device to another. |
| 12:53.59 | Zhoste | !etchnhalf |
| 12:53.59 | d-b | !etchandahalf |
| 12:53.59 | dpkg | "etch + 1/2" -- an update to Debian's stable release "etch" designed to provide support for newer hardware. It includes a 2.6.24 kernel along with an updated installer. Release notes: http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/etchnhalf Installation instructions: http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/debian-installer/etchnhalf See also http://wiki.debian.org/EtchAndAHalf or <etchnhalf facts> |
| 12:54.12 | whistler_tr | slacker_nl: umm what did ya mean by saying "correct" ? |
| 12:54.29 | Zhoste | I'll be back later. Thanks for all the help, guys! |
| 12:54.31 | earthian | whistler_tr, i am not sure if that is an issue really.. I have my reverse DNS which is different and I get no bounces so far |
| 12:54.37 | slacker_nl | whistler_tr: that you can only have one arpa record for your IP (the reversed lookup) |
| 12:55.09 | JyZyXEL | nul mount the devices and do it |
| 12:55.14 | nul | i tried cp -ruv /mnt/foo/.[a-zA-Z0-9]* /mnt/bar to copy all hidden files |
| 12:55.17 | whistler_tr | so i need an unique ip address for each of my domain if I want to add reverse dns addresses for them :( |
| 12:55.23 | petemc | slacker_nl: thats not true |
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| 12:55.31 | nul | it failed with the message that it was readonly |
| 12:55.32 | JyZyXEL | nul you only want hidden files? |
| 12:55.42 | petemc | slacker_nl: you can assign as many ptr records as you like |
| 12:55.46 | nul | JyZyXEL: i have got already not hidden files |
| 12:56.00 | whistler_tr | petemc: for different domains also? |
| 12:56.08 | JyZyXEL | nul why no /mnt/foo/* |
| 12:56.12 | nul | both devices are mountet rw |
| 12:56.13 | petemc | yes, do you control your ips reverse dns tho? |
| 12:56.25 | nul | JyZyXEL: because it did not copy the hidden files |
| 12:56.29 | whistler_tr | I ve a DNS server installed on my debian box. |
| 12:56.34 | JyZyXEL | oh weird |
| 12:56.49 | whistler_tr | so i can control my ips reverse dns zone files there. |
| 12:56.52 | petemc | that doesnt necessarily mean you control the reverse zone |
| 12:57.02 | whistler_tr | hmm |
| 12:57.07 | slacker_nl | petemc: but then you have round robin reversed dns'es |
| 12:57.12 | earthian | reverse zone is usually in the ISP |
| 12:57.15 | whistler_tr | what else do i need to control them? (sorry for my ignorance, a bit new here) |
| 12:57.42 | slacker_nl | or will it list all your ptr records when you ask host ip? |
| 12:58.02 | petemc | yes |
| 12:58.39 | nul | i get the error cp: cannot create regular file foobar: read-only file system |
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| 12:58.56 | nul | i am doing this command as root |
| 12:59.28 | whistler_tr | petemc: so lets assume that you have 3 websites, named as a.com, b.com and c.com. They are hosted all on 1 server with 1 ip adress (a virtual host on apache), and you say that u can set all three zones' reverse dns using bind, right? |
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| 12:59.50 | nul | 9503919 4 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2008-09-04 20:32 ./ is the printout of the ls -lisa of the target dir. |
| 13:00.04 | petemc | whistler_tr: it is possible, its not really standard tho |
| 13:00.06 | nul | /dev/sda1 on /mnt/usb type ext3 (rw) |
| 13:00.12 | nul | is the output of mount |
| 13:00.16 | nul | of the target |
| 13:00.35 | whistler_tr | petemc: i dont care much about standarts. can you point a document concerning this issue? or a how to maybe? |
| 13:00.41 | whistler_tr | i really need smt like that. |
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| 13:01.28 | nul | JyZyXEL: any help? |
| 13:01.44 | henry-nicolas | Hello everybody, I'm using drupal6 on Lenny and I would like to know how to add a theme without having to add it to /usr/share, any idea ? |
| 13:02.24 | JyZyXEL | nul well readonly shouldn't be a problem if you are just copying |
| 13:02.32 | petemc | whistler_tr: you should check if control of the reverse for your ip has been delegated to you |
| 13:02.54 | JyZyXEL | nul maybe #bash could help you out better |
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| 13:03.54 | dondelelcaro | whistler_tr: uh... ips reverse to a single domain name. |
| 13:03.55 | nul | hm |
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| 13:05.44 | dondelelcaro | (kind of hard to give the same input and expect three different answers) |
| 13:06.57 | petemc | it is possible to assign more than one ptr record to an ip tho |
| 13:07.12 | dondelelcaro | yeah, but insane |
| 13:08.22 | whistler_tr | by saying more then one ptr record, do you also mean, ptr recorsd with different domain names? |
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| 13:10.04 | whistler_tr | well the thing is this -> i ve more then 1 domain names, and i dont want my emails which i send from those domains marked as "spam". some email servers also check for reverse dns records for marking "spam". since my all domains are on the same debian box, which has only 1 ip, I just dont know how to figure out to give each of my domains a reverde dns result. |
| 13:10.05 | nul | JyZyXEL: nobody in #bash answers |
| 13:10.38 | JyZyXEL | maybe they are sleeping |
| 13:11.05 | nul | do not think so. there are users chatting |
| 13:11.12 | jelly | dondelelcaro: it's not really insane, but practically no app deals with mutliple PTR correctly |
| 13:11.17 | nul | but not really interested in my problem.... |
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| 13:11.28 | testlin | Hi all I am using debian as my NIS and NFS server. The server is too slow when mounting home directories. The same replica of debian on a different machine works without any issue. When netstat is checked, I could see large number of RX-ERR on the server that kas issue, but the other that is working shows zero RX-ERR. Is that the problem? |
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| 13:14.36 | dondelelcaro | whistler_tr: all mailers should be checking for is that the reverse goes to the forward, which ideally matches the EHLO. |
| 13:15.06 | dondelelcaro | whistler_tr: that is 1.2.3.4 -> foo.com -> 1.2.3.4 which is what you EHLO foo.com; as. |
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| 13:15.42 | dondelelcaro | if any of those are not the case, it's problematic. |
| 13:16.06 | buntfalke | nul: mount -o remount,rw /dev/foo /mnt/bar |
| 13:16.28 | nul | buntfalke: both are mountet rw |
| 13:16.33 | nul | already |
| 13:16.46 | nul | atleast this is what mount puts out |
| 13:16.50 | buntfalke | then check 'mount' if it's actually true |
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| 13:17.13 | buntfalke | then it is rather strange you get the error msg you got. check dmesg or so maybe |
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| 13:18.45 | hoxu | nul, check "cat /proc/mounts" and see if it's rw. You could also try unmounting and mounting it again |
| 13:19.30 | nul | hoxu: it differs. |
| 13:19.47 | nul | in /proc/mounts it is ro |
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| 13:20.47 | Doctor-Steve | how do i disable Statd? |
| 13:20.54 | Doctor-Steve | using Debian 5 |
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| 13:21.05 | hoxu | nul, duh. Was your /etc mounted readonly when you remounted it rw? |
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| 13:22.01 | nul | i did not remount it. |
| 13:22.01 | craigevil | Doctor-Steve: try using rcconf |
| 13:22.16 | nul | someone told me to run fsck first on that device |
| 13:22.17 | nul | brb |
| 13:22.20 | hoxu | nul, I meant the other partition. Anyway, just unmount and mount |
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| 13:26.50 | Doctor-Steve | craigevil, rcconf |
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| 13:27.51 | Doctor-Steve | ? |
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| 13:30.05 | Doctor-Steve | craigevil, how do i disable it? |
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| 13:32.02 | lostson | Doctor-Steve: if you run rcconf as root it will list all the daemons on your system and you can turn that one off if you wish |
| 13:32.27 | lostson | or services if you wish to call them that |
| 13:32.32 | Doctor-Steve | lostson, permantely or? |
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| 13:32.45 | lostson | yes or til you turn it back on |
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| 13:32.57 | Doctor-Steve | lostson, its failing on startup.... any other ideas :P just before i kill it |
| 13:33.14 | Raazeer | Hi all |
| 13:33.52 | lostson | not really Doctor-Steve if it is giving you issues and you dont need it i would just turn it off |
| 13:33.56 | lostson | morning Raazeer |
| 13:34.03 | Raazeer | Got the same problem as yesterday basicly, but I've found out the reason |
| 13:34.11 | Doctor-Steve | dunkas :P |
| 13:34.36 | Raazeer | my keyboard obviously contains an usb hub, any chance I can teach my initramdisk to use that? |
| 13:35.53 | Raazeer | it does have the usbhid driver on board, but it doesn't initialize the hub, so it doesn't "see" the keyboard behind." |
| 13:35.56 | Doctor-Steve | Raazeer, couple of treats... |
| 13:36.39 | nul | how was the mount command someone told 15 minutes ago? |
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| 13:39.19 | Raazeer | Doctor-Steve: how so? |
| 13:39.50 | Doctor-Steve | Raazeer, its the exact same way you train a dog... may if u mount up a little foreplay and finger the USB port that will help :P |
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| 13:40.25 | Raazeer | Doctor-Steve: if you finger your dog, |
| 13:40.31 | testlin | Hi all I am using debian as my NIS and NFS server. The server is too slow when mounting home directories. The same replica of debian on a different machine works without any issue. When netstat is checked, I could see large number of RX-ERR on the server that kas issue, but the other that is working shows zero RX-ERR. Is that the problem? |
| 13:40.36 | Raazeer | I might want to keep my distance from you |
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| 13:41.31 | Doctor-Steve | testlin, whats the network differences? |
| 13:41.44 | Doctor-Steve | testlin, like topology positions? and link differences? |
| 13:41.45 | Raazeer | look all I need to know is how do I get the kernel to recognize non-root hubs on the initramdisk? |
| 13:42.07 | Raazeer | apparently it just doesn't scan for them |
| 13:42.20 | Doctor-Steve | Raazeer, im not very good with kernels soz :( wish i could help tho |
| 13:42.56 | testlin | Doctor-Steve:I need to check that. I will paste it in a while. |
| 13:43.14 | Doctor-Steve | testlin, is it the same is what im asking.... |
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| 13:43.33 | Doctor-Steve | testlin, also do u have any Hubs in the way? any shitty old network devices? any old cabling? |
| 13:43.44 | Doctor-Steve | (always check the physical layer first!!!) |
| 13:44.13 | testlin | I am using an 8 port switch to connect to my network. |
| 13:44.55 | testlin | But a different server with CentOs running is not showing any RX-ERR |
| 13:45.03 | testlin | On the same network. |
| 13:45.41 | testlin | I tried configuring the network on the onboard nic, and with two different nic on 3 different pci slots. |
| 13:46.30 | testlin | But the issue persists. Also tried reducing link speed and changing it to half duplex. Was not sure whether that help, but that didnt either .. |
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| 13:49.39 | testlin | http://pastebin.centos.org/23033 |
| 13:49.45 | testlin | The output of my netstat |
| 13:50.07 | Doctor-Steve | testlin, still halfduplex? |
| 13:50.32 | Doctor-Steve | testlin, thatll cause alot of CSMA/CD processor cycles... |
| 13:50.42 | Doctor-Steve | u need to up it to full duplex |
| 13:50.51 | Doctor-Steve | and the CentOS box is running on the same switch? |
| 13:51.02 | Doctor-Steve | change the cable between the Debian Box and the switch... |
| 13:51.14 | testlin | Doctor-Steve: No . Now it is running in full duplex. |
| 13:51.35 | Doctor-Steve | testlin, kk thne |
| 13:51.35 | testlin | I tried that too to see whether it is due to a faulty crimping. |
| 13:51.47 | Doctor-Steve | testlin, good job |
| 13:51.52 | Doctor-Steve | testlin, router showing errors? |
| 13:51.56 | Doctor-Steve | testlin, router showing errors? or just the box |
| 13:51.57 | Doctor-Steve | ? |
| 13:52.17 | testlin | Router is not showing any errors. |
| 13:53.23 | testlin | The server mainboard is an old one. So I am not sure whether it is an issue related to a faulty motherboard. |
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| 13:53.31 | Doctor-Steve | testlin, reinstalled debian? |
| 13:53.38 | testlin | Yup. 3 times. |
| 13:53.50 | Doctor-Steve | hmmm |
| 13:53.53 | testlin | Now lenny is running. |
| 13:54.01 | Doctor-Steve | testlin, why is the router showing no errors then? |
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| 13:54.08 | Doctor-Steve | testlin, tried other kernels? |
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| 13:54.20 | testlin | No. didnt try a different kernel. |
| 13:54.28 | Doctor-Steve | testlin, try that... |
| 13:54.37 | Doctor-Steve | maybe different kernel, different drivers may do it |
| 13:54.43 | Doctor-Steve | otherwise im outta ideas soz :( |
| 13:54.58 | testlin | Dr. Steve, I will give that a try. |
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| 13:55.22 | testlin | I was wondering whather this can happen due to a faulty motherboard? |
| 13:55.39 | testlin | Thank you for your time Doctor Steve. |
| 13:55.44 | testlin | :) |
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| 14:00.38 | Macjust | Hello i have this error Could not read from transfer socket: ECONNABORTED - Connection aborted with proftpd in TLS mode, An idea ? |
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| 14:05.17 | rocketmagnet | hi, is there a compatibility list for acer laptops that work well with debian ? i got a cheap acer aspire and want to install linux dualboot with vista |
| 14:05.36 | lostson | linuxlaptops.prg |
| 14:05.43 | lostson | linuxlaptops.org |
| 14:05.55 | njan | http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/acer.html |
| 14:06.15 | rocketmagnet | thanks |
| 14:06.24 | testlin | njan: Malayali? |
| 14:06.35 | njan | testlin, no. :) |
| 14:06.49 | njan | testlin, I've been using this nick long since before I discovered it meant anything in Malayalam. :P |
| 14:06.50 | testlin | njan: Ok. Never mind :) |
| 14:07.02 | testlin | njan: lol |
| 14:07.18 | njan | testlin, love and happiness and good things to you anyway, though. It is that time of year for many. :P |
| 14:07.51 | testlin | njan: same with you too |
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| 14:47.57 | gutterpunk | Hi. I was wondering if anyone could point me to a nice howto converning IP address management in DNS. Currently our dns server is filled with meaningless hostnames and PTR's not pointing to anything at all. |
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| 14:49.05 | gutterpunk | Im looking for the best way to manage these ip's and the reverse records. Is there a definitive guide for this kind of thing? |
| 14:50.10 | Gr33n3gg | Google. |
| 14:50.24 | testlin | gutterpunk: How about a bash script? |
| 14:51.36 | gutterpunk | testlin, yeah, but I'm talking about naming conventions, stuff like thta |
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| 14:52.44 | gutterpunk | Since we're expanding I'd like to convert our current configuration to something simpler, before it all becomes unmanageable |
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| 15:02.00 | andeghost | can anyone teach me how to debug a kernel module? |
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| 15:03.16 | andeghost | anyone help me? |
| 15:03.18 | loca|host | by default, debian attach a BASH process to my /dev/ttyS0 (serial device), i need to change this behaviour and attach my own application to that device so when i connect via serial port, i get the output of my app and not a BASH session |
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| 15:04.52 | chiche42 | Hi everybody. I'm currently trying to make a debian distro dedicated for a router platform I'm working on. I want to keep as much as possible the original debian packages, and then, just add some of my own made packages on top of that. But I actually need the /etc/fstab to contain some specific entries, for my system to work, and I don't want to depend on a user action for that. So my first idea was to add : 'echo "/dev/foo /mnt/bar ext3 defaults 0 0 |
| 15:04.52 | chiche42 | " > /etc/fstab' in the postinst script of my own debian package. But still, I'm not really sure it's the good way to do it. Can someone familiar with debian packaging tell me if this is acceptable or if there's another better way to do that ? Thank's |
| 15:04.57 | andeghost | Can anybody tell me how to " compile the fujitsu-laptop module with debug (CONFIG_FUJITSU_LAPTOP_DEBUG) and load it with debug=0xfff"??? |
| 15:05.36 | chiche42 | loca|host > have a look at /etc/inittab and comment out the line that mentions ttyS0 |
| 15:05.56 | loca|host | chiche42, yes and how to attach my own app |
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| 15:07.49 | chiche42 | loca|host > then I think you can just edit the line and add the option "-l /path/to/your/program" |
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| 15:25.27 | Fenix|work | Greetings and salutations! |
| 15:25.34 | Fenix|work | Happy holidays to one and all |
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| 15:26.02 | Fenix|work | I have a question... how can I exclude socket files from tar? |
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| 15:26.56 | testlin | man tar |
| 15:27.03 | yitz_ | Whee! Etch->Lenny mostly worked OK |
| 15:28.14 | andeghost | ompile the fujitsu-laptop module with debug (CONFIG_FUJITSU_LAPTOP_DEBUG) and load it with debug=0xffff |
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| 15:28.33 | andeghost | anyone know how to do it "ompile the fujitsu-laptop module with debug (CONFIG_FUJITSU_LAPTOP_DEBUG) and load it with debug=0xffff "??? |
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| 15:29.23 | linkdd | hi |
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| 15:29.54 | J-_ | <3 Debian Lenny. Just did a netinstall last night. Fell asleep at the wheel sort to speak. :) Woke up, it was installed. Configured the wireless card and it's good to go! Way faster than Ubuntu for some reason. |
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| 15:31.03 | jidar | so when I su from a user to root, what files are read? /etc/profile, ~/.<shell>rc and what else? I'm running into a problem where ctrl+a/ctrl+e isn't being escaped properly but only when I su, if I login no problem. I've removed both /etc/profile and ~/.shellrc files (zsh in this case) and still can't ctrl+a/e, this is what happens: "# ^A^E" |
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| 15:31.55 | xand | jidar: su or su - |
| 15:32.01 | jidar | su |
| 15:32.10 | xand | use su - |
| 15:32.15 | jidar | sighs |
| 15:32.18 | jidar | that makes it go away |
| 15:32.19 | jidar | wtf |
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| 15:32.30 | xand | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:32.30 | xand | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:32.37 | jidar | an env login |
| 15:32.39 | jidar | durrr |
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| 15:32.47 | jidar | thanks xand |
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| 15:35.37 | Fenix|work | testlin, man tar is useful yes... but it doesn't tell you how to exclude a specific type of file... I only want to exclude socket files... |
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| 15:36.41 | dusted | Fenix|work, couldn't you do that with find, and pipe that to tar ? (I just joined, I don't know if you want to extract or create a archive) |
| 15:37.19 | leonopulos | got no /proc/modules after reboot, so lsmod doesn't work, what is the cause? |
| 15:37.48 | Macjust | i have this error Could not read from transfer socket: ECONNABORTED - Connection aborted with proftpd in TLS mode, An idea ? |
| 15:38.17 | leonopulos | my debian is running on Atmel 9260 (ARM9) |
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| 15:38.21 | testlin | What do you see in /var/log/messages in the server? |
| 15:38.32 | testlin | Macjust? |
| 15:38.42 | Fenix|work | dusted, I suppose I could use find to list all but socket files... but I'm using tar to back up my entire OS with some excludes (to exclude things like proc, dev, sys, the apt cache and lost+found)... but I guess I'm concerned at the speed of find |
| 15:39.10 | dusted | Fenix|work, don't be, I don't think it would be signifigantly slower |
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| 15:39.45 | dusted | you could pipe it to a file first, to check how long it takes, then you could use the file as input to tar instead |
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| 15:40.05 | Fenix|work | dusted, yeah... |
| 15:41.02 | Fenix|work | tar ignores the socket files anyway... so it isn't a big deal... it's just a pain to get an email from anacron with the output of tar telling me the scoket files are ignored... if I could prevent tar from generating any output that would be even better :) |
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| 15:41.49 | jidar | tar xf |
| 15:41.55 | dusted | can't you redirect all output to /dev/null instad ? |
| 15:42.09 | jidar | or ya, &> /dev/null |
| 15:42.15 | jidar | (depending on shell) |
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| 15:42.30 | dusted | jidar, without v, it will still output errors |
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| 15:42.39 | jidar | dusted: ya, I just thought about that |
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| 15:43.29 | dusted | Fenix|work, you could do something like redirecting errors to a file instead, just in case something really did go wrong, and you want to check up on it? |
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| 15:44.25 | jetx | !test |
| 15:44.26 | dpkg | Test Failed. |
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| 15:45.01 | karrotx | what package contains how to put something in wait_lock? |
| 15:45.19 | karrotx | i have a problem with various programs failing to lock the file appropriately |
| 15:45.30 | karrotx | i'm beginning to assume it's a bug in a debian package |
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| 15:45.57 | Fenix|work | dusted, I just looked at my script |
| 15:46.27 | Fenix|work | I have tar <options> 2>&1 ... but it appears I forgot to redirect STDOUT :) |
| 15:46.49 | dusted | ah :P |
| 15:46.54 | Fenix|work | I've since changed it to tar <options> > /dev/null 2>&1 :) |
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| 15:47.31 | Fenix|work | dusted, as for something going wrong I'm checking tar's return code. If it isn't 0 then I generate an email |
| 15:48.01 | karrotx | are you writing a backup scrip? |
| 15:48.15 | Fenix|work | karrotx, yes I am |
| 15:48.20 | karrotx | lame |
| 15:48.36 | dusted | karrotx, why is that lame? |
| 15:48.41 | karrotx | ar-sink or u-stink |
| 15:48.44 | karrotx | :p |
| 15:48.46 | Fenix|work | karrotx, to you maybe... to me |
| 15:48.50 | Fenix|work | not :) |
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| 15:49.58 | jetx | !pda |
| 15:49.58 | dpkg | i guess pda is (Personal Digital Assistant) PDAs are basically beefed-up organizers. They have small LCD screens, some form of pen or keyboard input, and software for organization, OCR, and contact management. Some have even more features, such as Web browsing or Internet e-mail. The best ones allow independent developers to write new applications that can be uploaded to the PDA.. Public Display of Affection |
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| 15:50.51 | wahjava | Hello everyone |
| 15:51.09 | wahjava | I've a question related to exim package in Debian. |
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| 15:51.39 | wahjava | Is exim4-daemon-heavy really heavy on resources than exim4-daemon-light ? |
| 15:51.45 | jetx | !ask |
| 15:51.45 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 15:52.49 | dusted | wahjava, actually, it performs better than -light but uses up more memory or something like that |
| 15:53.06 | wahjava | I want to use Exim4 as mailserver on my newly installed debian lenny desktop and integrate it with spamassassin |
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| 15:53.35 | mrfree | hi all |
| 15:53.36 | wahjava | i'm going to use smarthost it in configuration. |
| 15:53.42 | wahjava | hello mrfree |
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| 15:54.25 | wahjava | dusted: so will you recommend it or samething can be achieveed with -light version too ? |
| 15:54.27 | mrfree | how can I disable kern iptables (shorewall) messages logging on all ttys? it isn't related with syslogd because I stopped it... |
| 15:54.58 | wahjava | s/veed/ved/ |
| 15:56.02 | wahjava | and I've no need for ldap/mysql/pgsql/sqlite etc. support in it. |
| 15:56.20 | dusted | wahjava, you can do that with the -light version too, if you bump into something, it won't take many minutes to replace it with the heavy one |
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| 15:57.21 | wahjava | dusted: okay, any hints or howtos about that ? |
| 15:58.18 | dusted | hmm, I don't remember what I followed to get it setup |
| 15:58.35 | dusted | however, training spamassassin to be remotely usefull is.. not so easy :) |
| 15:58.38 | wahjava | dusted: so you're also using -light with spamassassin ? |
| 15:58.41 | petemc | the light version doesnt have support for Content_Scanning , which is needed for SA |
| 15:58.45 | dusted | lemme check |
| 15:58.59 | dusted | yes |
| 15:59.17 | keitherz | MERRY CHRISTMAS!!! ITS 12 AM NOWWW!!! WOOOOOOOOOOT!!!!!! DECEMEBR 25! |
| 15:59.25 | dusted | http://rafb.net/p/f074Pk32.html |
| 15:59.29 | testlin | Merry Christmas to all :) |
| 15:59.39 | jetx | !petemc++ |
| 15:59.39 | dusted | Actually christmas is at 24 in denmak, and here it's 16:59 |
| 16:00.49 | leonopulos | is /proc/modules mounted by initramfs scripts? |
| 16:01.02 | jetx | its xmas eve 1000am and i just got to work... (: |
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| 16:01.27 | jetx | err :( |
| 16:01.43 | wahjava | dusted: okay, thanks. |
| 16:02.26 | wahjava | petemc: so does that mean, it is not possible with -light version in any sort of recommended way ? |
| 16:02.46 | jetx | bbl |
| 16:03.06 | petemc | wahjava: it wouldnt be possible in the ACLs, which is the best place to do it |
| 16:03.22 | dusted | petemc, i run the -light with SA and it seems to work fine |
| 16:03.40 | petemc | how do you call SA? |
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| 16:05.13 | dusted | I have little experience with exim, from a file in conf.d/transport/ |
| 16:05.35 | petemc | so thats not in the ACLs |
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| 16:07.32 | yitz_ | Why can't I find mencoder in aptitude? |
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| 16:07.59 | obcecado | yitz_: http://debian-multimedia.org/ |
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| 16:08.03 | obcecado | add this rep |
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| 16:08.23 | yitz_ | Thanks |
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| 16:18.06 | DimmuR| | anyone here using tablet under debian? |
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| 16:27.11 | dante_2core | DimmuR|, |
| 16:27.14 | dante_2core | yea, me. x61 tablet |
| 16:27.25 | dante_2core | (IBM thinkpad) |
| 16:27.43 | dante_2core | !dpkg return |
| 16:27.43 | dpkg | [return] not punctuation |
| 16:27.49 | dante_2core | !dpkg punctuation |
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| 16:28.13 | dante_2core | DimmuR|, what do you want to know about using tablets? having trouble? |
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| 16:29.14 | DimmuR| | dante_2core, i'm thinking about buying tablet like Wacom Bamboo A6 etc but first looking if there are problems under linux to work on it |
| 16:30.18 | dante_2core | DimmuR|, well, I got the touchscreen to fully work on the thinkpad, no problems here, and I really like it - I don't know about other hardware though and what you're going to use it for |
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| 16:30.41 | ILyuha | hello |
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| 16:31.11 | ILyuha | i want to install package from unstable repository, what line to add in /etc/apt/sources.list? |
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| 16:31.38 | stew | ILyuha: what version of debian are you running now? |
| 16:32.27 | ILyuha | 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-486 |
| 16:32.54 | stew | ILyuha: you shouldn't try to mix stable and unstable, if there are packages you need from unstable, use backports: /msg dpkg backport |
| 16:34.07 | ILyuha | thank you... |
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| 16:43.10 | ILyuha | stew: but what if i need package, that is not contained in backports? but unstable release contains it |
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| 16:55.56 | Heavy-D | hey guy I have a couple quick questions... first of all.. what script do I use to start a custom script or program on startup? I want to make vsftpd start on boot |
| 16:55.59 | Heavy-D | *guys |
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| 16:57.11 | testlin | You can use bash.bashrc? |
| 16:57.27 | Heavy-D | /etc/bash.bashrc? |
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| 16:57.35 | testlin | yup? |
| 16:57.55 | Heavy-D | or is it better to use /etc/rc.local |
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| 17:00.37 | valdyn | Heavy-D: certainly not bash.bashrc |
| 17:00.51 | valdyn | Heavy-D: whats wrong with debians own /etc/init.d/vsftpd ? |
| 17:00.58 | Heavy-D | valdyn: Yeah it seems like custom stuff should be added to rc.local |
| 17:01.16 | valdyn | Heavy-D: umm, rc.local is for entirely different stuff |
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| 17:02.03 | Heavy-D | valdyn: yeah it looks like vsftpd is starting automatically anyways |
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| 17:02.58 | Heavy-D | okay this is a very silly question but as far as obtaining/install debian security updates.. .is it as simple as ' apt-get update && apt-get upgrade ' ? |
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| 17:06.22 | nicko2 | hi |
| 17:06.31 | narhen | hi |
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| 17:06.40 | stew | Insolit: /msg dpkg ssb |
| 17:06.41 | nicko2 | is there any problem in updating the kernel in etch to the latest one? |
| 17:06.49 | stew | Insolit: not you, nevermind |
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| 17:12.10 | JyZyXEL | stew Merry Christmas |
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| 17:14.48 | rking | When user xyz inserts a CD, then logs out, other users get an error saying that "only xyz can unmount /media/cdrom0". I am Googling, but having trouble discovering what layer is responsible, here. I do have "user" as an option in my /etc/fstab line. |
| 17:15.33 | rking | I mean, it gives an error even if you physically push the eject button. |
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| 17:15.52 | rking | I think gnome is doing the automounting, but I'm not sure where. |
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| 17:16.20 | aiuw | rking, you need the su password |
| 17:16.46 | aiuw | Or you need to set the permission to use the CDROM |
| 17:16.48 | rking | aiuw: Well, I gave my wife rights and instructions on "sudo eject", and that is working as a hack |
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| 17:17.11 | tame | when i try to load a module, it just hangs. when i try to remove it, it tells me that it is not located in /proc/modules. when i search for the module, it says its in the path where my kernel image is. can someone help me load this module?? |
| 17:17.12 | rking | All users have rights to the CDROM (in group "cdrom") |
| 17:17.38 | rking | tame: is it something weird, or is this a packaged kernel and a stock module? |
| 17:18.02 | tame | packaged kernel for power pc, and stock module b43 and b43legacy |
| 17:18.20 | wireddd | idk if anyone would be interested in this or not, but I quickly made a debian background for my eeepc http://randomkeywhacking.com/forums/download/file.php?id=11 |
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| 17:18.40 | rking | aiuw: it's just that whichever user is logged in at the time the disc is inserted becomes the "owner" of the mount, and other users cannot override it without superuser... that makes sense as a safe default, but I want to relax the security on that |
| 17:18.42 | tame | wireddd: nice |
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| 17:20.02 | ehird | What's that program that lets you install a compiled-from-source program into dpkg without extra work? |
| 17:20.18 | petemc | checkinstall? |
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| 17:20.35 | tame | rking: did you get that? |
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| 17:21.12 | rking | tame: yeah, and I'm Googling... I don't know one byte about PowerPC |
| 17:21.45 | tame | oh sorry |
| 17:22.30 | ehird | checkinstall, aha |
| 17:22.31 | rking | tame: have you looked through some of the Google results for: b34 linux module hang ? |
| 17:22.33 | ehird | thanks petemc :) |
| 17:23.02 | tame | no. i just figured it didnt get installed correctly. although, i installed step by step |
| 17:23.36 | rking | tame: seems like doing the kernel-package thing might work. |
| 17:23.40 | ehird | is checkinstall recommended or not? |
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| 17:23.59 | nicko2 | is there any problem in updating the kernel in etch to the latest one? |
| 17:24.19 | rking | ehird: There is a script that you can use on GNU-style source trees and easily make a .deb out of them... that's what I prefer |
| 17:24.42 | ehird | GNU-style source trees aren't ubiquitous, though. |
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| 17:25.55 | rking | ehird: Yeah... I forget what the requirements are, but I think all it has to do is respect a few commands, such as "PREFIX=xyz make install" |
| 17:26.01 | ehird | rking: but what's the name? |
| 17:26.33 | rking | ehird: I'm wrasslin' with apt-cache search trying to find out. I'm on a fresh install and don't have the program installed yet (plus I haven't used it in a while---not been doing much dev) |
| 17:26.48 | ehird | :) |
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| 17:27.43 | rking | ehird: Looks like checkinstall will do it... that's definitely not the one I used to use, but seems right. |
| 17:27.57 | ehird | alright |
| 17:27.58 | ehird | thanks |
| 17:28.00 | rking | tame: I bet if you compile your own kernel (using kernel-package, of course) it will magically work. |
| 17:28.19 | rking | tame: if not, you have a few options, such as trying an older kernel, or perhaps a bleeding edge kernel |
| 17:28.19 | tame | rking: i have no idea how to compile a kernel |
| 17:28.36 | tame | and i HAVE to use this kernel because its older bcm card |
| 17:28.44 | tame | its etchnhalf kernel |
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| 17:29.01 | rking | tame: compiling a kernel is not as bad as it sounds: http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/ch08s06.html |
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| 17:36.28 | rking | ehird: Aha! I used to use dh-make-perl --- it's for Perl modules only, which explains why my searches weren't coming up with it. =) |
| 17:36.37 | tame | when i try to load a module, it just hangs. when i try to remove it, it tells me that it is not located in /proc/modules. when i search for the module, it says its in the path where my kernel image is. can someone help me load this module? |
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| 17:36.56 | rking | tame: You're not going to try to compile the kernel? |
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| 17:37.08 | tame | i dont see how thats going to solve this |
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| 17:37.20 | tame | this kernel im using is made specifically for my problem |
| 17:37.45 | rking | tame: Okie doke... you're the expert I guess. |
| 17:38.02 | dec3pti0n | how do I go about installing the source for a package provided by backports ? I tried adding the "deb-src http://www.backports.org/debian etch-backports main" but no good |
| 17:38.03 | tame | rking: im not an expert, and thats why im not going to compile a kernel |
| 17:38.12 | tame | as soon as i do, im sure everything will go to crap |
| 17:38.21 | rking | tame: Not compiling a custom kernel and asking #debian in a situation like this is roughly equivalent to calling tech support for Windows and refusing to reboot. |
| 17:39.01 | nkuttler | dec3pti0n: if it's from backports you could simply get the testing/sid source |
| 17:39.14 | tame | rebooting is not the equivalent of compiling a kernel |
| 17:39.20 | rking | tame: I understand your hesitation, but it doesn't work that way. You install the kernel using kernel-package, which makes a .deb of it. Reverting everything to being exactly as it is now is as easy as booting into a recovery mode and dpkg -i your.old.kernel.deb |
| 17:40.00 | rking | tame: Yes, but what I'm saying is that you have to exhaust the common fixes of the problem before you expect someone to roll their sleeves up and debug the problem specifically. |
| 17:40.02 | dec3pti0n | nkuttler, is that a new source entry in the source.list ? |
| 17:40.37 | tame | here is the problem rking: the new kernel caused me to lose my ethernet card. so i have no way of getting online with that machine. |
| 17:40.39 | nkuttler | dec3pti0n: /msg dpkg ssbp |
| 17:40.39 | stoned | good morning |
| 17:40.47 | stoned | what is ssbp? |
| 17:40.52 | rking | tame: And, anyway, your question is too generic... if you're going to keep fishing for someone familiar with your specific problem, please at least mention PowerPC and b43 |
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| 17:41.23 | stoned | powerbook 3400c with sarge/testing on it |
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| 17:41.29 | stoned | :D I still haven't upgraded |
| 17:41.44 | stoned | 4 years ago hehe |
| 17:41.52 | rking | tame: Hrmm... I see why that would make it a pain to do the downloading of stuff needed to compile. |
| 17:42.18 | tame | rking: i dont mean to sound hostile, im just frustrated |
| 17:42.26 | rking | tame: I hate problems getting online... it creates logistical hassles with things that would otherwise be simple. |
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| 17:43.43 | rking | tame: I don't mean to be hostile, either... but I know how to get #debian to help, and asking the question the way you did is going to take a while before you get the help you want. I'm just saying to: a) try your darndest to do every generic solution and to look for Google results, and 2) be a little more specific (PPC+b43 in question) |
| 17:44.03 | J-_ | What packages do I have to install to install compiz-fusion? |
| 17:44.07 | J-_ | !compiz-fusion |
| 17:44.17 | stoned | J-_, search compiz |
| 17:44.24 | stoned | aptitude search compiz |
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| 17:44.29 | J-_ | cool, thanks |
| 17:44.37 | stoned | you need compiz-fusion compiz-core I think |
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| 17:44.59 | J-_ | Things are a bit different than Ubuntu. But, I think it's for the better. :) |
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| 17:45.11 | stoned | and we're back |
| 17:45.29 | stoned | compiz-confusion! |
| 17:45.32 | J-_ | As I said. |
| 17:45.34 | J-_ | Things are a bit different than Ubuntu. But, I think it's for the better. :) |
| 17:46.45 | stoned | J-_, are you an ubuntu user? |
| 17:46.51 | J-_ | Yes. Was. |
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| 17:46.54 | stoned | J-_, previous ubuntu user |
| 17:46.56 | stoned | ok |
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| 17:47.02 | stoned | J-_, why change to debian? |
| 17:47.07 | stoned | J-_, debian sucks dude |
| 17:47.27 | stoned | J-_, you have to setup everything yourself. |
| 17:47.41 | stoned | J-_, nothing is done for you, you have to install and configure every little thing in debian |
| 17:47.42 | J-_ | That's alright. I'll learn more. |
| 17:47.47 | stoned | J-_, I would imagine ... |
| 17:47.51 | stoned | J-_, thats what I like to hear. |
| 17:47.53 | stoned | J-_, good man. :) |
| 17:47.59 | stoned | J-_, you didn't take the bait! |
| 17:48.03 | mhymn | a real gateway to offtopic! |
| 17:48.08 | dec3pti0n | can aptitude find a source for a package ? |
| 17:48.11 | J-_ | Yeah dude. Ubuntu was too easy. |
| 17:48.13 | stoned | dec3pti0n, yes |
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| 17:48.22 | stoned | dec3pti0n, man aptitude |
| 17:48.28 | Kavan | anyone familiar with checkinstall? |
| 17:48.34 | J-_ | And, the performance in Lenny is far more superior. |
| 17:48.51 | rking | Kavan: we were just talking about it a bit ago... what's your question? |
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| 17:49.25 | Kavan | I've run checkinstall to build package and during installation it appears to be trying to access /etc as ./etc |
| 17:49.31 | stoned | dec3pti0n, apt-get source pkgname |
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| 17:49.35 | craigevil | J-_: i keep telling people that in #eeepc but they dont listen, debian boots to lxde in 20 seconds while ive seen people running ubuntu takes 90 seconds to boot |
| 17:49.53 | stoned | craigevil, the reason is that buntu has tons of services on startup |
| 17:50.06 | stoned | printing service, mysql, blah this, that ew |
| 17:50.17 | craigevil | yep a friend ran it in vbox it had 142 process running once gnome was up |
| 17:50.20 | stoned | so obviously starting all those thigns takes time |
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| 17:50.33 | Kavan | rking: I guess my problem is that it's confusing ./etc with /etc, I'm not sure where the error lies |
| 17:50.37 | craigevil | where as on my eee using lxde i have 60 |
| 17:50.38 | rking | Kavan: gimme ~10 mins |
| 17:50.41 | dec3pti0n | so it's not just like aptitude search pkg_name and then one of the results will be the source !!! |
| 17:50.43 | stoned | ubuntu is like the vista of linux I think ;) debian is like the debian of linux ;) |
| 17:50.45 | rking | Kavan: what's the source tree you're building? |
| 17:50.46 | J-_ | I should have started with Lenny in the first place. But, I'm happy I used Ubuntu as my first distro for 3 or so years. |
| 17:50.54 | Kavan | rking: pm? |
| 17:50.58 | J-_ | Time to move on. |
| 17:50.59 | stoned | dec3pti0n, you have to add a deb-src in your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 17:51.25 | stoned | dec3pti0n, after which apt-get update & apt-get source pkgname |
| 17:51.26 | dec3pti0n | I have already done so |
| 17:51.42 | stoned | !tell dec3pti0n -about package basics |
| 17:52.07 | dec3pti0n | I'm downing the pkg now and it's wierd that aptitude search did not tell me about it |
| 17:52.11 | dec3pti0n | thanks |
| 17:52.20 | stoned | np |
| 17:52.27 | stoned | what are you trying to build? |
| 17:53.04 | dec3pti0n | I need to build a postgresql contrib but it requires the sources |
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| 17:53.17 | stoned | cool |
| 17:53.22 | stoned | why? |
| 17:53.25 | dec3pti0n | now that I got it I'll see how it works |
| 17:53.31 | J-_ | running a basic benchmark with glxgears in Intrepid I only got roughly 600FPS with GM965 chipset. Now, with Lenny, I'm getting around 1169FPS. Similar to Hardy. |
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| 17:53.42 | stoned | glxgears means nothing |
| 17:54.07 | J-_ | stoned: What can I benchmark with? |
| 17:54.15 | stoned | why do you need to benchmark? |
| 17:54.24 | stoned | how would it help you in anyway? |
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| 17:54.58 | J-_ | composition/ graphics. I want to see what I can benchmark my laptop at. |
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| 17:55.08 | stoned | J-_, just for the sake of benchmarking, I dunno. |
| 17:55.16 | gartt | Jeeze.. I'm not going to bash Ubuntu or Kubuntu here, but I don't really get some of these user-friendly distros. I tried both of them before Debian, and Debian was both easier to use and with more features (for example, out-of-the-box for me, I had my battery indicator, it also had a driver package that wasn't on Ubuntu yet) |
| 17:55.38 | stoned | gartt, thats fantastic, you can rail on ubuntu in #debian-chat |
| 17:55.45 | gartt | The user-friendly distros didn't even have SSHD installed or even "make" |
| 17:56.05 | gartt | stoned: I'm all finished. Just wanted to share an experience :) |
| 17:56.10 | J-_ | gartt: In ubuntu install build-essential |
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| 17:56.24 | stoned | J-_, please do NOT support ubuntu or give ubuntu answers in here. |
| 17:56.30 | J-_ | Okay. :) |
| 17:56.57 | tame | how do i edit yaboot to boot my old kernel? |
| 17:56.59 | gartt | J-_: Sure, I'm sure that I could have done that. The point just was that Debian is as user-friendly as the 'user-friendly' distros, that's all |
| 17:57.00 | dash | i'm creating a .deb for a program I maintain. Is cdbs still the thing I oughta be using for that? |
| 17:57.07 | stoned | tame, #debianppc |
| 17:57.17 | stoned | tame, I forgot, I used yaboot a long time ago |
| 17:57.21 | stoned | I think it was yaboot |
| 17:57.22 | rking | Darnit, which package owns the "uz" script (does "tar xvzf", etc.) |
| 17:57.30 | tame | i didnt even realize there was a ppc channel |
| 17:57.33 | tame | thanks |
| 17:57.39 | stoned | tame, irc.debian.org |
| 17:57.41 | stoned | !ppc |
| 17:57.42 | dpkg | ppc is probably is short for <powerpc>, and powerpc is the superior architecture. You worship it, and wish you were running on it. Check out http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/ or visit #debianppc |
| 17:57.48 | dash | (i.e., it hasn't been superseded by something better, and I shouldn't use debhelper instead, right? :) |
| 17:58.15 | stoned | dash, /msg dpkg nmg |
| 17:58.44 | stoned | rking, come again? |
| 17:58.53 | stoned | rking, apt-file? /msg dpkg search |
| 17:58.53 | J-_ | Where can I pick at the bots brain so I can learn how to use it? |
| 17:58.59 | stoned | !dpkg.web.search |
| 17:59.00 | dpkg | dpkg.web.search is probably A Frontend to the dpkg irc bot and the factoids database at @ http://dpkg.vireo.org |
| 17:59.05 | stoned | !dpkgbot |
| 17:59.05 | dpkg | Please visit http://wiki.debian.org/IRC/DpkgBot to learn how to effectively search the factoids database for FAQ, and not flood in the channel with !tell <who> about <what>. Also see <msg the bot>. We ask that you learn to search for yourself first, unless it is a specific problem. Many questions are asked repeatedly, and the factoid database can be of great help to you. Ask me about <search dpkg>. |
| 17:59.21 | J-_ | Thanks |
| 17:59.23 | stoned | yw |
| 17:59.51 | dash | stoned: the new maintainer's guide doesn't mention debhelper or cdbs |
| 18:00.08 | dash | stoned: hence my asking here. :) |
| 18:00.11 | rking | stoned: my apt-cache searching is not finding it for some reason. |
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| 18:01.10 | dash | oh, it does mention dh_make. |
| 18:01.11 | J-_ | I like the dpkg websearch future. Heck yes. |
| 18:01.36 | stoned | future? |
| 18:01.41 | stoned | you mean feature ;) |
| 18:01.54 | stoned | rking, finding what? |
| 18:01.55 | groton | how to set up dns servers ip addresses for a wired connection? i have a dns-nameservers entry in /etc/network/interfaces but i do not have the resolvconf package. |
| 18:02.03 | rking | stoned: the `uz` script. =) |
| 18:02.14 | stoned | rking, apt-file or pdo |
| 18:02.15 | craigevil | holy cow batman dpkg can look into the future cool |
| 18:02.19 | stoned | !tell rking -about pdo |
| 18:02.24 | rking | stoned: yep... I'm working on it. |
| 18:02.48 | stoned | groton, come again |
| 18:02.53 | J-_ | feature, yes. <3 |
| 18:02.58 | J-_ | palms a little |
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| 18:03.24 | stoned | groton, simply the nameserver option in inferfaces (man 5 interfaces) or just your dns's ip in /etc/resolv.conf |
| 18:03.46 | rking | Aha! It's in mtools, which doesn't make a whole lot of sense... but that's the owner of the nothing-to-do-with-Microsoft but pretty-handy lz and uz |
| 18:04.47 | groton | stoned, already tryed the first solution as i said (i.e. dns-nameservers into interfaces file) with no luck, and i cant set the dns servers ip in /etc/resolv.conf as i do not have that file, nor i have the resolvconf package installed. |
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| 18:05.48 | stoned | groton, install the package or don't. Simply create the resolv.conf file |
| 18:06.10 | J-_ | !store |
| 18:07.54 | mhymn | !tell J-_ -about msg the bot |
| 18:08.05 | stoned | http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-gateway.en.html |
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| 18:12.13 | dan2 | hey guys |
| 18:12.26 | dan2 | just wondering which dumbass's bright idea was to rip off firefox and call it iceweasel |
| 18:12.29 | stoned | hello dan2 |
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| 18:13.05 | stoned | !tell dan2 -about iceweasel |
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| 18:13.23 | stoned | !tell dan2 -about why iceweasel |
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| 18:13.43 | mhymn | !politeness |
| 18:13.44 | dpkg | it has been said that politeness is putting the toilet seat down |
| 18:13.58 | dan2 | stoned: ya... it sucks |
| 18:14.06 | stoned | dan2, no one is forcing you to use it. |
| 18:14.08 | dan2 | stoned: many webpages don't recognize iceweasel |
| 18:14.14 | stoned | dan2, do you have a debian support related question? |
| 18:14.16 | craigevil | BS |
| 18:14.23 | stoned | craigevil, do not feed the troll. |
| 18:14.32 | stew | dan2: /msg dpkg iceweasel user-agent |
| 18:14.38 | craigevil | if they dont work in iceweasel they wont work in firefox either |
| 18:14.52 | dan2 | craigevil: it's about user-agent, less about browser type |
| 18:15.24 | stew | dan2: debian's other option besides changing the name of firefox, was to remove firefox from debian completely |
| 18:15.29 | stoned | dan2, you're lucky im in a good mood. |
| 18:15.49 | stoned | stew, I'm wondering why firefox isn't just put into non-free ? |
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| 18:16.11 | craigevil | Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.5) Gecko/2008122011 Firefox/3.0.5 (Debian-3.0.5-1) < Iceweasel |
| 18:16.22 | stoned | whoh firefox was updated to .5 |
| 18:16.27 | stoned | dang. I should update |
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| 18:16.52 | stoned | (Debian-3.0.5-1) oh nm, I forgot I booted into sid doh |
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| 18:25.44 | stoned | !ping |
| 18:25.44 | dpkg | pong |
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| 18:40.56 | GhostlyDeath | I'm trying to do a netinstall on a system that has a RaLink 2600 PCMCIA Card, however it detects the PCMCIA card but does not utilize it |
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| 18:41.24 | J-_ | What is the current version of Lenny? 5.0? |
| 18:42.28 | GhostlyDeath | Lenny will be 5 |
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| 18:44.51 | J-_ | http://tinyurl.com/compiz So this tutorial from http://linuxsix.blogspot.com/2008/10/instalar-compiz-fusion-en-debian-lenny_28.html isn't sufficient? |
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| 18:50.37 | virhilo | how to recompile existing packages in debian? |
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| 18:52.05 | lostson | virhilo: here ya go http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/20 |
| 18:52.19 | virhilo | lostson: thx;] |
| 18:52.28 | lostson | your welcome and merry xmas |
| 18:52.30 | lostson | hehe |
| 18:53.20 | virhilo | lostson: merry christmass too:) |
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| 18:56.00 | tame | ndiswrapper fails building with error "unrecognized ope code 'mov' " why is this? |
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| 19:32.21 | bjork_ | is there a simple way of installing the _dev packages with aptget? |
| 19:32.33 | CoolCold | apt-get install libc6-dev |
| 19:32.43 | CoolCold | is it hard ? |
| 19:32.54 | bjork_ | including X devs? |
| 19:33.16 | CoolCold | including any <package-you-want>-dev |
| 19:33.41 | bjork_ | 'cause i'm having problems compiling |
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| 19:37.35 | genrtc | good evening |
| 19:38.02 | genrtc | i cannot find rtc nor genrtc modules in my debian unstable installation |
| 19:38.17 | genrtc | i'm trying to use audio apps that need the timer |
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| 19:38.32 | genrtc | but cannot load these two modules |
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| 19:38.54 | genrtc | "module not found" |
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| 19:39.13 | Macjust | How Can i known the memory space of a directory ? |
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| 19:41.25 | enzotib | memory space? disk space, you mean? |
| 19:41.34 | DSlenentine | du -c -h |
| 19:41.35 | halflife | Macjust: du -hs directoryname to know how much of disk space it uses |
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| 19:45.27 | Agiofws | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:46.47 | lostson | happy holidays to you as well |
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| 19:49.48 | margiolas | or mayby happy work for computer science students! projects!!! |
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| 19:51.39 | rgammans | I Hate gnome. Every time I update I hit a regression. Sigh!. |
| 19:51.44 | rgammans | has just update to lenny |
| 19:52.39 | margiolas | rgammans: try kde :-p |
| 19:54.00 | rgammans | Pah , that means qt which has has worse problems. It ok I guess - but I always end up opening two windows for one I actually want |
| 19:54.49 | rgammans | I quote liked gnome 2.10, and 2,14 was ok after I bug fixed it. ;-). (And got used to it). |
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| 19:59.04 | rgammans | Ahh, I see it #444730. Josselin appears to be wrong! |
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| 20:07.24 | linux2 | can anyone here help me with an xorg.conf issue. I cannot seem to get it to allow the display resolution to go higher than 800x600. I have a via chipset and I have it set in xorg to use the module "via" but it still doesn't work. any ideas? |
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| 20:08.06 | Kavan | can anyone recommend debian dedicated hosting? |
| 20:08.23 | Kavan | a reliable u.s. based one :P |
| 20:09.31 | Gr33n3gg | http://www.m5hosting.com/debian-dedicated-server.php |
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| 20:10.44 | halflife | linux2: pastebin xorg.conf |
| 20:11.19 | halflife | linux2: /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 20:12.09 | Gr33n3gg | Kavan: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianHosting |
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| 20:12.34 | Kavan | Gr33n3gg, : thanks man |
| 20:12.45 | Gr33n3gg | no problem |
| 20:12.47 | linux2 | halflife, (II) VIA(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) |
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| 20:12.56 | stoned | uhm.. if you have a dedicated server, can't you ask them to put whatver OS you want on it? |
| 20:12.58 | linux2 | halflife, a lot of stuff like that in /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 20:13.08 | linux2 | halflife, http://pastebin.ca/1293156 |
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| 20:14.27 | flokuehn | hey Gr33n3gg merry christmas |
| 20:14.40 | halflife | linux2: lspci | grep -i via |
| 20:16.17 | linux2 | halflife, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN400/PM800/PM880/PN800/PN880 [S3 UniChrome Pro] (rev 02) |
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| 20:17.28 | Gr33n3gg | flokuehn: merry xmas :) |
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| 20:17.45 | flokuehn | Gr33n3gg: ;) |
| 20:19.04 | halflife | linux2: pastebin grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 20:19.34 | linux2 | halflife, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. |
| 20:19.34 | linux2 | (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER |
| 20:19.47 | linux2 | halflife, there aren't any errors |
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| 20:20.58 | linux2 | halflife, it appears that is thinks it is out of the range of the monitor: (II) VIA(0): Not using default mode "1280x1024" (hsync out of range) |
| 20:22.28 | linux2 | halflife, brb |
| 20:23.34 | lenny1G | hi, i would like to install etch on an old PIII laptop which does not have a cdrom. i have the iso image but and a 1 gigabyte usb stick. can anyone help? |
| 20:24.27 | Gr33n3gg | lenny1G: http://tinyurl.com/7xtsyv |
| 20:25.37 | ben1597 | I've forgotten the name of the command-line utility that prints out the name of a key or key combination when pressed. Does anyone remember? |
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| 20:26.43 | ben1597 | You invoke it and it listens for a keypress, prints out an ascii name for it, and then exits. For example Alt+Tab would yield "Super+Tab" or something like that. |
| 20:26.49 | Ace2016_- | Hi all |
| 20:27.17 | Ace2016_- | to install alsa on a debian kernel (from the repos) do you use module assistant and alsa-source package or should it be already installed> |
| 20:27.18 | ben1597 | (or SuperL - I don't remember) |
| 20:27.27 | Ace2016_- | i did a chroot install so alsa isn't setup yet |
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| 20:29.49 | d0lphin_n0el | santo e bom natal :) |
| 20:30.02 | d0lphin_n0el | saint and good christmas :) |
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| 20:32.00 | dios_mio | what do i get in the first install CD? I am checking the website but I cant find |
| 20:32.25 | rgammans | ben1597: xev? |
| 20:32.28 | Gr33n3gg | PORN |
| 20:32.34 | Gr33n3gg | JAM PACKED FULL OF PORN. |
| 20:32.40 | Gr33n3gg | I thought it said that somewhere. |
| 20:32.49 | dios_mio | I love porn! |
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| 20:33.22 | ryanCH | xine has choppy playback, but other plays it runs smooth, how do i fix this in xine? |
| 20:33.26 | ryanCH | DVD |
| 20:33.42 | ben1597 | rgammans: that might work, but what I remember was a longer command and would print one line "SuperL+Tab" (for Alt+Tab) |
| 20:33.53 | Ace2016_- | dios_mio: you can check the list of packages, i think its provided in a file alongside the iso file on the mirros |
| 20:34.05 | dios_mio | cool ok |
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| 20:35.50 | rgammans | ben1597: Oh. Not sure then. |
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| 20:36.45 | ben1597 | rgammans: thanks anyways; xev could prove very useful for configuring fvwm. |
| 20:37.28 | Spudster | Hello Debian Gurus - Any idea why after installing VMWare tools on Debian the ETH0 adapter never shows up in /dev? (ESX 3i, Debian 4.0) |
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| 20:39.17 | rgammans | Um. AFAIK eth0 never (normally) shows up in /dev . Why do you think it should? |
| 20:39.43 | xand | Spudster: network devices don't show up there. |
| 20:39.55 | Spudster | well, I can't get /etc/init.d/networking restart to load the network adapter. Where would it be? I kinda new to Linux |
| 20:40.04 | xand | nowhere |
| 20:40.15 | beardy | !interfaces |
| 20:40.16 | dpkg | Your network configuration is in the file /etc/network/interfaces ; "man 5 interfaces" for docs, (zless /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz for an example). Start and stop your networking with ifup -a and ifdown -a respectively. See also <dhcp client>, read "man resolv.conf" for DNS. Also ask me about <static route>. |
| 20:40.19 | rgammans | spudster: what does 'ifconfig -a' say |
| 20:40.20 | xand | ifconfig -a will list it if it exists |
| 20:40.43 | Spudster | ok let me run it... be right back |
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| 20:41.29 | ben1597 | my mistake: alt->alt & windows key->super |
| 20:41.38 | Spudster | looks like it picked it up as eth2, this may be because I did a P2V on this machine, I think I can take it from here! Thanks alot everyone! |
| 20:42.02 | beardy | !z25 |
| 20:42.03 | dpkg | As of version 0.090, udev has the ability to statically rename ethernet cards based on MAC address. The addresses are configured in /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules . If you want the mappings to change, edit that file. See <forcedeth mac>. As of version 0.124-1 the file is called /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules . |
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| 20:42.11 | beardy | Spudster: ^^^ |
| 20:42.22 | Spudster | Thanks! |
| 20:43.30 | dios_mio | does anyone else get this while playing mp3--> ALSA: underrun, at least 0ms. ?? |
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| 20:46.46 | Ace2016_- | dios_mio: what program is that from? |
| 20:47.08 | dios_mio | Ace2016_-: mpg123 |
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| 20:48.15 | pobega | go o |
| 20:48.23 | pobega | Sorry, wrong window |
| 20:48.42 | Ace2016_- | pobega: why would you say that in any window? |
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| 20:49.02 | pobega | Ace2016_-: Well, /go is an irssi command |
| 20:49.08 | pobega | I missed the slash AND the window |
| 20:49.17 | Ace2016_- | lol |
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| 21:08.02 | Macjust | Hey the user of #debian get up ! I have a announcement for you |
| 21:08.13 | Macjust | Merry Christmas |
| 21:08.23 | Macjust | ;p |
| 21:08.47 | virhilo | Macjust: you too |
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| 21:09.13 | war9407 | When is the next version of postfix going to be released in testing, is there anyway to find that out? |
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| 21:14.33 | dios_mio | how to you burn the debian .iso image in linux? do I use the mkisofs command? |
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| 21:15.20 | rgammans | mkisofs makes an iso. wodim will burn or so will a number of gui utils |
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| 21:17.31 | epsilon | take any cd recording tool... starting with cdrecord up to any comfortable GUI tool |
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| 21:18.08 | dios_mio | wont mkisofs burn ISO image? |
| 21:18.18 | LoveGuru | which is better for debian system "ebox" or "webmin" ? |
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| 21:20.20 | epsilon | webmin *duck and run very fast* |
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| 21:21.24 | J-_ | I'm currently in Lenny, how can I change nautilus from spatial mode? |
| 21:21.39 | J-_ | Or, is it supported in this version of gnome? |
| 21:21.51 | J-_ | !spatial |
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| 21:26.10 | epsilon | #gnome |
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| 21:31.05 | holst | does anyone know when kde4.debian.net will be back up? |
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| 21:31.44 | flokuehn | maybe ask in debian-kde on oftc |
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| 21:35.13 | dios_mio | i shalt boot from debianz |
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| 21:41.07 | `VL | hello. what is the simplest way to install kernel module that is not present in default kernel? |
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| 21:45.52 | dererk | merry x-mass to those whom apply :) |
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| 21:46.31 | virhilo | dererk: thx && merry christmas for you |
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| 21:48.11 | syslq | I want to know how true debian people look at mono project? |
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| 21:49.06 | dererk | hopefuly not much =) mono it's disgusting |
| 21:49.12 | Joelito | hi all, what's the param to avoid installing suggestions? For example: I just want php5 and not apache2* as php5 suggests |
| 21:49.22 | dererk | s/it's/is/ |
| 21:50.13 | syslq | dererk: I'm looking for development enviroment on linux, I have developed on .net but this seems so not linux |
| 21:50.30 | syslq | dererk: but all distros including lenny will include it |
| 21:51.04 | J-_ | How can I change from spatial to browse mode in nautilus? |
| 21:51.18 | dererk | They are and they will. But in my opinion there's much more interesting tools to spend time :) |
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| 21:51.35 | syslq | dererk: but isnt this soo microsoft thing? |
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| 21:52.00 | syslq | dererk: I might be wrong on that ofcourse but still, it's a .net port but on the other hand .net is java done right :) |
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| 21:52.35 | dererk | I heard of serious performance issues, more than Java's one |
| 21:52.57 | rgr | Where did you hear of these performance issues? |
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| 21:53.44 | dererk | on ppl testing their own developments from M$ .net to m0n0 |
| 21:54.04 | syslq | dererk: java has not issues today, with this hardware |
| 21:54.09 | dererk | Joelito, you may change apt Recommends option |
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| 21:54.36 | dererk | syslq, note sure about it, but, I some how agree |
| 21:54.45 | dererk | not * |
| 21:54.48 | dererk | grrr |
| 21:54.55 | rgr | syslq: look up monodevelop |
| 21:55.07 | syslq | rgr: I made my first project on it |
| 21:55.13 | syslq | But it seems wrong |
| 21:55.17 | rgr | c# ? |
| 21:55.20 | syslq | Yeah |
| 21:55.41 | Joelito | derek: thanks, seems that "aptitude -R install php5" helped =P |
| 21:55.46 | syslq | I do all my coding in C# mostly, except microporcessors there I use c if possible |
| 21:55.57 | dererk | Joelito, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/how-to-configure-apt-get-to-install-suggested-packages-169746/ |
| 21:56.02 | dererk | Joelito, ahh, cool =) |
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| 21:56.24 | syslq | dererk: So in the future we'll have exe files on linux :) |
| 21:56.38 | dererk | syslq, scaring idea, If you ask me :-P |
| 21:56.44 | Ace2016_- | simply installing a bootloader on this system is turning into a nightmare |
| 21:56.55 | Ace2016_- | it just refuses to do it |
| 21:57.27 | syslq | dererk: I agree |
| 21:57.58 | Ace2016_- | oh hang on a second here, dd copy the old mbr to the new one, that would work for sure |
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| 22:02.15 | syslq | dererk: on the other hand linux get's another rapid development framework this way, so far all it had was java (framework based coding) |
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| 22:02.36 | dererk | syslq, I'm not against it, don't get me wrong. |
| 22:02.55 | syslq | dererk: but interesting thing is that java coders are still most seeked here |
| 22:02.56 | dererk | If it's free software, literarly speaking, hey! |
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| 22:03.07 | dererk | just... it's not something that I *enjoy* :P |
| 22:03.17 | syslq | dererk: I think it's an open specification |
| 22:03.37 | gorgapor | why is there no installation candidate for python3-profiler? |
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| 22:04.09 | syslq | dererk: I was looking at python and although I love language I hate the idea of having trully interpreted app (although java bytecode is interpreted really) |
| 22:04.29 | dererk | syslq, GOOD remark, I agreed with that definition too =) |
| 22:04.50 | syslq | dererk: which one? |
| 22:05.15 | dererk | syslq, about the "open specification" |
| 22:05.26 | syslq | dererk: yeah, it is I beleve |
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| 22:05.43 | syslq | dererk: I have no idea why they did so, I guess they had to |
| 22:05.45 | dererk | syslq, bbim |
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| 22:07.33 | tec | help |
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| 22:09.15 | tec | im trying to install debian netinstall on a server and when the installer tries to get the dependency file from the selected mirror server it fails |
| 22:09.29 | Ace2016_- | now i'm going to try a fat16 /boot partition if ext3 is going to keep failing on me then surely fat16 will help |
| 22:09.43 | Ace2016_- | (yes i corrected the inode size issue already) |
| 22:09.55 | Ace2016_- | and menu.list is fine |
| 22:10.00 | tec | dns ist working, if im trying to download some files over wget (eg. google.de index.html) it works |
| 22:10.26 | Ace2016_- | tec: try a different mirror maybe? |
| 22:10.30 | tec | the net install disc is new, ive downloaded it four hours ago... |
| 22:10.36 | petemc | tec: edit /etc/resolv.conf to have a working nameserver address |
| 22:10.43 | tec | @Ace2016_: ive tryed |
| 22:10.44 | Ace2016_- | tec: what version of debian are you installing? |
| 22:11.05 | tec | @petemc: dns seems working |
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| 22:11.14 | tec | etch |
| 22:11.26 | petemc | tec: on, i read ist as isnt |
| 22:11.34 | petemc | s/on/oh/ |
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| 22:12.06 | tec | ok, ill try |
| 22:12.37 | Ace2016_- | tec: doing just the base install? |
| 22:12.47 | Ace2016_- | tec: hard drive issues maybe? |
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| 22:13.34 | tec | @Ace2016_-: yes, following the standard installer |
| 22:13.53 | tec | @Ace2016_-: on console it resolves just fine my wget requests |
| 22:14.01 | Ace2016_- | do you know if it fails on the same deps each time? |
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| 22:14.39 | tec | @Ace2016_-: it wont even start to download anything, because it truely seems it cant resolve the dns |
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| 22:15.28 | tec | @Ace2016_-: im only a bit confused, why in hell i can download over wget on another tty |
| 22:15.45 | tec | @Ace2016_-: there the dns perfectly works... |
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| 22:16.41 | Ace2016_- | does it say its a dns error? |
| 22:16.46 | tec | @Ace2016_-: temporary failure resolving ftp.debian.org |
| 22:17.00 | tec | @Ace2016_-: looks like |
| 22:17.14 | tec | @Ace2016_-: but why only the package manager cant resolve? |
| 22:17.30 | tec | @Ace2016_-: its confusing |
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| 22:18.24 | Ace2016_- | tried using opendns as your dns servers? |
| 22:19.10 | tec | @Ace2016_-: ill try, now ive a pfsense hooked up to my vdsl line |
| 22:19.53 | pyrorain | speaking of java |
| 22:19.58 | pyrorain | any javascirpt gurus around?> |
| 22:20.05 | dazjorz | oooh |
| 22:20.11 | dazjorz | pyrorain: you evil beast! |
| 22:20.16 | dazjorz | you have just committed the Greatest Java Crime |
| 22:20.24 | tec | @Ace2016_-: im going to reboot and try again with a free dns server :) |
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| 22:20.35 | Ace2016_- | ok good luck |
| 22:20.59 | dazjorz | pyrorain: #java would have killed you and sliced you into a few hundred little pieces, for comparing Java to Javascript like that |
| 22:21.40 | Ace2016_- | dazjorz: isn't javascript a simple browser version of java? |
| 22:21.56 | tec | @Ace2016_-: thank you, ill tell if it works |
| 22:22.16 | dazjorz | Ace2016_-: no, absolutely not |
| 22:22.18 | tec | @Ace2016_-: by the way.. merry christmas :) |
| 22:22.36 | Ace2016_- | merry christmas |
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| 22:30.19 | Spida | pyrorain: javascript is an implementation of the ecmascript standard |
| 22:33.29 | tec | @Ace2016_-: it worked ;) just wondering, why it wont accept my dns... |
| 22:33.42 | tec | @Ace2016_-: thank you verry much! |
| 22:35.03 | LoveGuru | Is Is there any ebox version for "debian etch" ? |
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| 22:46.21 | stoned | hello my good people |
| 22:46.26 | stoned | Merry Freaking Xmas |
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| 22:48.23 | Ace2016_- | finally fixed the /boot issue: back up the contents of /boot, unmount, destroy the /boot raid1, zero the superblocks, shrink the partition and leave the first 28mb blank on the drive, format with reiserfs, make the raid, then copy over the /boot files from the backup, reinstall grub and update grub |
| 22:48.24 | betz-- | Hi! i am new to linux and i got some problems. Is it possibe to see the user and group of a file? Or a list with possible users and groups? |
| 22:48.56 | Ace2016_- | betz--: ls -la will give info about the files in the directory |
| 22:49.37 | betz-- | ah nice, thanx Ace2016_- |
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| 22:52.05 | dustybin | Merry Christmas Debian x |
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| 22:53.17 | Ace2016_- | Merry Christmas All |
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| 23:07.05 | dusted | omg... the danish version of ubuntu have renamed the "Desktop" dir to the danish word... |
| 23:08.09 | dusted | such things should be illegal |
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| 23:08.25 | gray-- | dookstop |
| 23:08.36 | dusted | if debian ever does that i'll set the dev on fire and kick him so hard in his balls that I tear a tendon in my foot |
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| 23:09.57 | crash_ | does debian have the new network manager 0.7 that has support for the mobile broadbands in testing? |
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| 23:13.30 | arezey | hey. i just got a laptop with a wireless network, and am installing debian 4.0r6 on it, now when it asks for the ethernet card, mine is one from marwell which debian doesn't list. how should i add the wireless support? |
| 23:14.52 | gray-- | arezey: pull the card out, examine the chipset, and see what manufacturer makes it, and google that manufacturer |
| 23:15.08 | arezey | right... |
| 23:15.22 | arezey | but the card seems to be integrated :/ |
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| 23:16.51 | arezey | but i can read from lspci that it's a marwell |
| 23:17.06 | arezey | can the wireless support be added afterwards? |
| 23:17.11 | arezey | i mean, once debian is installed? |
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| 23:19.17 | arezey | hmm not a marwell but a marvell |
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| 23:20.39 | maligor | arezey, usually they have unique pci-id's for specific models |
| 23:20.52 | maligor | you can google for it for example |
| 23:21.30 | arezey | hmm no... marvell is the ethernet port, network is broadcom |
| 23:21.45 | groton | when two network interfaces are up, which one i used? How to switch among them? |
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| 23:22.23 | arezey | now, hum. how do i make the installer use wireless? |
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| 23:24.49 | _2 | hey fellow peoples. what is the syntax/url for etch ? |
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| 23:25.19 | _2 | something like deb http://debian.org/archives etch main ? |
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| 23:26.05 | _2 | !etch |
| 23:26.05 | dpkg | etch is probably the code name for the current stable Debian release, version 4.0, released on April 8th, 2007. ask me about <install debian>. Please read the release notes at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes which also contain the upgrade procedure for upgrading from the previous version of Debian stable (<sarge>). Ask me about <stable>. currently <4.0r6>, or the Etch-A-Sketch magic screen |
| 23:27.25 | Zopia1 | how do i access a right-click with a one-mouse button? can i set ctrl+click or something to be a right click? |
| 23:27.44 | Zopia1 | er, one-button mouse :P |
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| 23:30.12 | _2 | ah i left out the ftp. pfft, |
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| 23:43.27 | scx | hehe |
| 23:43.30 | scx | nspluginwrapper: /usr/lib/browser-plugins/libflashplayer.so is not a valid NPAPI plugin |
| 23:43.44 | scx | the underlying truth about flash |
| 23:44.47 | maligor | I'd use flash 10 alpha 64bit |
| 23:44.56 | Tekno | is it possible to have custom resolution in tty? |
| 23:45.08 | maligor | nspluginwrapper with flash is just buggier than a alpha could possibly be |
| 23:45.40 | maligor | Tekno, yeah, it is |
| 23:45.46 | Tekno | how |
| 23:46.23 | scx | first of detect qwhat resolutions your fb support |
| 23:46.34 | maligor | Tekno, whart sort of resolution? |
| 23:46.36 | scx | Tekno: apt-get install hwinfo |
| 23:46.44 | scx | then hwinfo --framebuffer |
| 23:46.57 | scx | you will get a code like 317 |
| 23:47.12 | maligor | the non-fb also supports some modes I thiink |
| 23:47.16 | scx | append to your grub as vga=0x317 |
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| 23:48.07 | scx | I hate it but I really need flash =\ |
| 23:48.07 | Tekno | it doesnt show resolution i want |
| 23:48.10 | Tekno | 1024x600 |
| 23:48.23 | scx | Tekno: that mean it is not supported |
| 23:48.33 | Tekno | darn |
| 23:48.35 | scx | pick one of what is there |
| 23:48.36 | maligor | I think uvesafb might support it |
| 23:48.45 | scx | maybe I dunno |
| 23:49.08 | maligor | or was it just adjustable refresh rates |
| 23:49.16 | maligor | non-vesa fb drivers can drive custom modes tho |
| 23:49.39 | maligor | but they tend to have issues most notably with binary blob drivers |
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| 23:50.56 | Tekno | vga=0x315 |
| 23:50.59 | Tekno | like that? |
| 23:51.35 | Tekno | yea seems to work |
| 23:51.46 | Tekno | looks odd though |
| 23:51.46 | maligor | scx, erhm, the only reason you'd need to use nspluginwrapper for flash is if you run the 32bit version |
| 23:52.03 | maligor | on amd64 that is |
| 23:52.18 | maligor | http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/releasenotes_64bit.html has a native alpha version |
| 23:52.37 | scx | maligor: I have downloaded that one, and I am using 6x4 |
| 23:52.50 | scx | but IC/F doesn't detect it |
| 23:53.23 | scx | and I found a solution somewhere using npapi |
| 23:53.33 | scx | if you have anothr idea please |
| 23:53.34 | maligor | I just copied it to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins |
| 23:53.44 | scx | I did too |
| 23:53.57 | maligor | it finds it fine |
| 23:53.59 | scx | uhm, lemme remove ~/.mozilla |
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| 23:54.27 | maligor | .mozilla/plugins should work too ofcourse |
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| 23:56.18 | LoveGuru | Is Is there any ebox version for "debian etch" ? |
| 23:56.22 | Tekno | no |
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| 23:57.35 | ubuntoil | Hi, I really have some trouble to find how to add some repository, ca you please help me |
| 23:58.37 | ubuntoil | I found that: http://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList?action=show&redirect=sources.list |
| 23:58.51 | scx | maligor: a question, can you tell me one of the other .so you have under /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins? |
| 23:59.08 | LoveGuru | Tekno: What about webmin? |
| 23:59.16 | ubuntoil | and I do understand it, but now, where are the repos ? |