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| 00:02.10 | octoserver | enouf: youve been playing linux too long lol |
| 00:02.38 | enouf | paxcoder: how about you open a separate shell and do su - and alter your $PS1 and maybe even $PROMPT_COMMAND (and have those colorized) |
| 00:02.58 | paxcoder | enouf: that is just a drag |
| 00:02.59 | enouf | octoserver: si |
| 00:03.00 | babilen | MarcoBXBRO1: i made very good experience with rsnapshot |
| 00:03.11 | enouf | paxcoder: do all your admin tasks there |
| 00:03.13 | paxcoder | enouf: i have different PS1 for su |
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| 00:03.56 | paxcoder | enouf: prompt command might do it tho (with su... that is, root account) |
| 00:04.07 | paxcoder | well, not as good, but close |
| 00:04.10 | enouf | i don't want something that will "bother you until you exit" |
| 00:04.22 | paxcoder | enouf: that's why i said option |
| 00:04.30 | octoserver | enouf: we should dd your brain and of= it to a info bot |
| 00:04.52 | enouf | octoserver: nah, i suck many times - it's cool though, thanks for the kind words |
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| 00:05.24 | enouf | needs to go real soon |
| 00:05.32 | paxcoder | enouf: if you're using another shell for root business it wouldn't bother you, just an occasional su... and that only if you want it |
| 00:06.04 | paxcoder | enouf: actually prompt command won't do it, you can't put tput in a variable, right? |
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| 00:06.41 | enouf | you can put anything in a variable, even a kernel :-P |
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| 00:07.11 | paxcoder | enouf: the question is if it'll be executive |
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| 00:07.24 | paxcoder | and the answer is no i'm pretty sure |
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| 00:07.32 | enouf | paxcoder: im tired .. and sick .. ignore me .. |
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| 00:11.04 | jasonWagstaff | can anyone recommend a linux live cd that can diagnosis harware problems like drive failures, memory issues, etc.... |
| 00:11.50 | Rawplayer | hi, which wlan nic do you guys recomment to build a wireless bridge |
| 00:11.55 | Rawplayer | (brand/chipset) |
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| 00:12.11 | octoserver | does anyone else think that miro is best freakin program ever ? |
| 00:12.14 | KDE4000 | does etch cd 1 have gcc and everything? |
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| 00:12.40 | KDE4000 | im trying to help someone who needs internet with wireless and only has a flash drive right now, and its just a endless loop of packages to install over and over |
| 00:12.58 | KDE4000 | cant use apt-get since there is no internet for that box execpt for wireless |
| 00:13.09 | elik | KDE4000, can download the cds |
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| 00:13.36 | elik | KDE4000, I guess we could say dvds in this case |
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| 00:14.05 | KDE4000 | all of them ? :/ |
| 00:14.08 | elik | KDE4000, otherwise, ain't there a ethernet cable... |
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| 00:14.18 | elik | KDE4000, I did have issues with my wireless.. stil net installed |
| 00:14.26 | KDE4000 | elik: the laptop doesnt have ethernet |
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| 00:14.29 | KDE4000 | :O |
| 00:14.35 | elik | KDE4000, involved making a bridge with my laptop |
| 00:14.44 | KDE4000 | pcimia ethernet card has no drivers |
| 00:14.54 | elik | KDE4000, what kind of laptop come without ethernet??? |
| 00:15.00 | KDE4000 | a reallllllly old one |
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| 00:15.01 | KDE4000 | lol |
| 00:15.08 | elik | ooh |
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| 00:15.18 | elik | then wireless isn't on there either |
| 00:15.29 | KDE4000 | pcimia wireless card, yes |
| 00:15.34 | elik | right |
| 00:15.35 | KDE4000 | the pcimia ethernet card he has doesnt work |
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| 00:15.46 | paxcoder | enouf: I got it. It can be simply done by doing: echo "tput smso" >> ~/.bashrc |
| 00:15.51 | basix | where will i get pynids for my debian sid installation? |
| 00:15.54 | elik | KDE4000, what can i say... sucks to be him :P |
| 00:16.03 | KDE4000 | its a "mircon tansport nx" laptop |
| 00:16.04 | KDE4000 | :D |
| 00:16.17 | paxcoder | I remembered there was .bash_login, but it didn't work, so I googled it up, it doesn't execute it if there's .bashrc |
| 00:16.28 | elik | KDE4000, http://www.dell.com as soon as he can connect |
| 00:16.31 | KDE4000 | lol |
| 00:16.43 | KDE4000 | he has another pc |
| 00:16.47 | KDE4000 | he just want the laptop for IRC |
| 00:16.54 | KDE4000 | so... |
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| 00:17.12 | paxcoder | enouf: it's quite annoying too XD |
| 00:17.20 | enouf | heh |
| 00:17.22 | KDE4000 | but he cant get wireless to work cause need ndiswrapper, and ndiswrapper needs GCC, and gcc needs another part of gcc and... |
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| 00:17.30 | enouf | goes afk |
| 00:17.55 | elik | KDE4000, that's a nice chain you got running there |
| 00:18.02 | KDE4000 | yeah |
| 00:18.04 | KDE4000 | a bad one |
| 00:18.08 | elik | KDE4000, it's like Debian... but without the benefits |
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| 00:28.06 | thirst | hi guys |
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| 00:28.39 | elik | hi |
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| 00:30.43 | thirst | when i tried to install oracle on my debian system it says glibc package not installed.. does debian have an explicit glibc package or is it libc6 that debian has ? how do i resolve this |
| 00:31.28 | thirst | i see a comment here http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=473812 that libc6 is glibc |
| 00:31.30 | abrotman | it is libc6 |
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| 00:31.38 | abrotman | thirst: what's the actual errorr ? |
| 00:32.41 | thirst | it does a check before the start of install where it says needed glibc > 2.5 .. and glibc not installed.. and dpkg -l doesnt show glibc |
| 00:32.56 | petemc | perhaps you want libc6-dev |
| 00:33.31 | thirst | petemc, naah.. dont think so.. but i do have libc6-dev installed.. |
| 00:34.02 | dmoerner | thirst: if you are etch the version is 2.3 |
| 00:34.07 | dmoerner | which is too old |
| 00:34.09 | thirst | on redhat systems I think the package is called glibc itself.. and not libc6.. i see the rpms here .. http://oss.oracle.com/projects/compat-oracle/files/DST/sles9/ |
| 00:34.51 | abrotman | thirst: which version of debian ? |
| 00:35.04 | thirst | dmoerner, i am on lenny... my libc6 version is 2.7-18... maybe there wont be any runtime error... just the installer is cribbing.. |
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| 00:35.20 | abrotman | thirst: it's a shell script? see what it's actually checking |
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| 00:36.56 | thirst | abrotman, .. it allows me to go to the next screen inspite of the error.. so let me first try going ahead with the install .. maybe there wont be any problem.. as libc6 is already present.. |
| 00:37.40 | thirst | abrotman, naah.. doesnt allow me to proceed.. |
| 00:38.14 | abrotman | thirst: check the script, see what it's actually looking for |
| 00:38.14 | thirst | abrotman, .. dont think it is a shell script.. looks like a java UI is doing the checking.. called from a wrapper shell script called runInstaller |
| 00:38.17 | abrotman | oh |
| 00:38.22 | abrotman | thirst: strace it ? |
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| 00:39.18 | thirst | lemme try |
| 00:40.24 | thirst | crap from the JVM.. :) |
| 00:40.48 | thirst | I think if i create a dummy package called glibc with version number 2.6 or something.. the installer will go on fine... |
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| 00:41.18 | paxcoder | echo: seems you can execute in a variable (subshell). so you could just highlight PS1 (less annoying but still) by remaking one line to: export PS1="$(tput smso)\h:\w\$$(tput rmso)" |
| 00:41.29 | abrotman | thirst: which oracle are you trying to install ? |
| 00:41.48 | paxcoder | *that's enouf, not echo. but mainly for ppl who might read logs. |
| 00:42.25 | thirst | abrotman, oracle 11g R1 |
| 00:42.32 | abrotman | thirst: i'm asking because i think there are debian packages for oracle-xe |
| 00:42.46 | elik | paxcoder, or for echo, who would be wondering what the hell you want with him |
| 00:42.47 | PeterFA | I'm having an issue making a custom kernel. I downloaded Linux-2.6.28 and compiled it with the drivers needed to read the root fs as modules. So I attempted to create an initramfs with update-initramfs -c -k 2.6.28 which completed without error. But, when I try to boot it says that it cannot find the init. |
| 00:42.49 | PeterFA | What is wrong? |
| 00:43.05 | PeterFA | I'm trying to find information the web about initramfs but there's not much there. |
| 00:43.29 | thirst | abrotman, yeah.. that is oracle 10g iirc |
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| 00:44.04 | abrotman | i think so also .. just checking |
| 00:44.08 | paxcoder | elik: o.O |
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| 00:45.25 | kingsley | Can a command line option make audacious play /mnt/cdrom? If so, how? |
| 00:45.39 | abrotman | audacious /mnt/cdrom/* |
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| 00:46.45 | thehurley | anyone know if there's a script that will install particular apps into a chroot jail? |
| 00:47.06 | toolz | are there any sites with default iptables rules for beginners? |
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| 00:47.41 | PeterFA | Hrm, it might have been I never installed the modules. |
| 00:47.45 | thirst | abrotman, i infact tried installing oracle-xe.. didnt work directly after the apt-get ... i think the package although is a .deb searches for redhat config files. likes tries to look for /etc/sysconfig/oracle-xe which i guess is the redhat folder structure.. |
| 00:48.02 | abrotman | !tell toolz about iptables |
| 00:48.56 | kingsley | abrotman: I wish I didn't feel the need to mention this, but "audacious /mnt/cdrom/*" doesn't work for me. |
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| 00:49.14 | abrotman | kingsley: is the CD full of sound files? or an actual audio CD ? |
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| 00:49.39 | Melik | is there a bash command to check the uptime of my debian machine? |
| 00:49.45 | abrotman | uptime |
| 00:49.49 | thirst | abrotman, maybe creating an empty .deb package called glibc would work.. how can i do that ? |
| 00:49.58 | abrotman | thirst: /msg dpkg equivs |
| 00:50.06 | kingsley | abrotman: It's a music CD. |
| 00:50.16 | abrotman | kingsley: you don't mount audio CDs |
| 00:50.31 | abrotman | kingsley: what is the actual CD device ? |
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| 00:51.16 | thirst | abrotman, that's neat.. :) |
| 00:51.25 | abrotman | thirst: if it works for you it is :) |
| 00:52.10 | thirst | abrotman, heh. |
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| 00:56.24 | PeterFA | I keep getting the same problem with update-initramfs, the kernel always panics when it says it can't find '/init' |
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| 00:56.31 | superlinux | hi all |
| 00:56.48 | PeterFA | i don't know what '/' means in this case, and I don't know why it's looking for init there either. |
| 00:57.06 | kingsley | abrotman: The actual CD device appears to be /dev/sr0, but, "audacious /dev/sr0" also fails. |
| 00:57.36 | abrotman | gets a music CD |
| 00:57.46 | superlinux | how can i make use of subversion to make backups of my hard disk? is this a valid argument? |
| 00:58.26 | kingsley | abrotman: To be forthright, I should also mention that "xmms /mnt/cdrom" works. |
| 00:58.28 | superlinux | or ,i should say, is it logical? |
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| 01:00.06 | abrotman | kingsley: okay .. let me try again |
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| 01:01.13 | abrotman | kingsley: if i don't mount it, it plays fine .. i don't seem to be able to mount it |
| 01:01.59 | kingsley | abrotman: Thank you for checking. |
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| 01:03.05 | kingsley | abrotman: Two questions: 1.) What device is your cdrom on, and 2.) which version of audacious did you use? |
| 01:03.21 | abrotman | /dev/hdc |
| 01:03.26 | abrotman | judd: versions audacious |
| 01:03.27 | judd | abrotman: audacious -- etch: 1.2.2-4 lenny: 1.5.1-4 sid: 1.5.1-4 |
| 01:03.29 | abrotman | the one lin lenny |
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| 01:04.13 | abrotman | kingsley: this is all over google though |
| 01:04.28 | kingsley | abrotman: We used the same version, but my cdrom appears to be a scsi device. |
| 01:04.35 | abrotman | that's fine |
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| 01:07.55 | JordiGH2 | Alright then... looks like the blob compiled. |
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| 01:09.02 | superlinux | can i make use of subversion to make backups of my hard disk? i |
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| 01:09.24 | valdyn | superlinux: why not? |
| 01:09.26 | wpalap | everytime i run 'cinelerra', i get an instruction to set shmmax. How to set it up for good? |
| 01:09.33 | valdyn | superlinux: question is if that is a good idea |
| 01:09.54 | superlinux | valdyn, yes that's THE question |
| 01:10.17 | elik | superlinux, of course, the svn repo has to be on a different hd/location.. |
| 01:10.29 | elik | valdyn, why woldn't it be |
| 01:10.47 | superlinux | like if i did: cat /dev/hda to svn |
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| 01:11.04 | valdyn | superlinux: now that would suck |
| 01:11.13 | elik | superlinux, yeah... no |
| 01:11.21 | valdyn | elik: i dont know subversion. |
| 01:11.21 | superlinux | it'll be like restore point |
| 01:11.30 | superlinux | like windows sort of |
| 01:11.41 | elik | superlinux, >.> |
| 01:11.42 | valdyn | superlinux: thats silly to do |
| 01:11.45 | superlinux | just an idea |
| 01:12.01 | elik | superlinux, well, what do you want to back up exactly? |
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| 01:12.35 | wpalap | kernel is 2.6.18. how to set shmmax? |
| 01:13.02 | superlinux | well it came to me while i am always on debian, i am now like i want a new makeover to my box. i am just bored of linux |
| 01:13.36 | valdyn | that is bad? |
| 01:13.39 | superlinux | i have also 1/2 TB of a backup disk |
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| 01:14.04 | bmoll8 | i was reading the oreilly book on samba, claiming that if accurately tuned, samba is a faster protocol than nfs. In your system admin experiences, have you found this to be true. Personally, I have found samba to be significantly slower than nfs 3 |
| 01:14.18 | superlinux | so it came to me the "cat /dev/hda to svn" idea |
| 01:14.46 | valdyn | superlinux: theres backup tools for a reason |
| 01:14.50 | elik | superlinux, you want to back everything up |
| 01:14.59 | zash_ | superlinux: svn on /dev/[hs]d* ? dude |
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| 01:15.04 | valdyn | superlinux: im sure subversion is no way made for this or binary data in general |
| 01:15.24 | superlinux | i want to use real Unix systems. i feel they have a light weight processes |
| 01:15.26 | zash_ | having /home in svn might makem ore sense |
| 01:15.28 | elik | superlinux, as valdyn says, svn not for binary |
| 01:15.45 | elik | superlinux, text file is great.. saves incrementally |
| 01:15.46 | valdyn | superlinux: whats a real unix system? |
| 01:15.51 | superlinux | if i dislike a system i dump back my debian |
| 01:15.53 | elik | superlinux, otherwise, rsync would do |
| 01:16.11 | valdyn | superlinux: you dont need svn to save a disk image |
| 01:16.13 | elik | superlinux, if it's a one shot thing, man cp |
| 01:16.57 | superlinux | guys it's just an idea came to me. i think it's silly now. |
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| 01:18.15 | elik | superlinux, hey, it's the 8 time I tell you it depends what you want to do... |
| 01:19.00 | superlinux | just as system restore tool |
| 01:19.19 | superlinux | restore from a point in time |
| 01:19.45 | elik | superlinux, you talk about windows.. windows has nothing you can just dump back on there after you installed another OS |
| 01:19.59 | elik | superlinux, you might be interested in zfs |
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| 01:20.21 | Ace2016_- | can someone help me with a package diversion, i made the diversion but its not putting the file in the new location: http://pastebin.com/d6fdc5326 |
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| 01:20.35 | enouf | PeterFA: do you ave an init in / in the initrd? |
| 01:20.51 | elik | superlinux, otherwise, rsync can help you make incremental backup |
| 01:20.58 | superlinux | ok |
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| 01:22.12 | valdyn | Ace2016_-: wth are you trying to accomplish? |
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| 01:23.27 | valdyn | Ace2016_-: the diversion means that if a *different* package tries to install libglx.so then that file will be put to libglx.so.1 |
| 01:24.41 | Ace2016_- | oh |
| 01:24.53 | Ace2016_- | well thats just great :( |
| 01:25.32 | valdyn | Ace2016_-: and in this case libglx.so.1 is *already* taken by a few packages, so its not a good idea to divert to libglx.so.1 |
| 01:25.58 | Ace2016_- | oh |
| 01:26.01 | abrotman | kingsley: i can't figure out what the deal is .. rhythmbox can play it, sound-juicer wants to rip it .. |
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| 01:26.23 | Ace2016_- | but i'm using the nvidia installer, so far it works fine apart from messing with this particular file |
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| 01:26.46 | valdyn | Ace2016_-: hmm, nm, its probably not taken |
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| 01:28.24 | Ace2016_- | anything to tell dpkg that this file should be installed elsewhere? do i have to make a fake package? |
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| 01:30.21 | abrotman | kingsley: audacious cdda:// |
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| 01:35.10 | valdyn | Ace2016_-: i dont know what exactly you did |
| 01:35.43 | valdyn | Ace2016_-: you *just* need something like "dpkg-divert --add /path/to/file" |
| 01:36.00 | valdyn | Ace2016_-: not something with a specific package |
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| 01:37.04 | valdyn | Ace2016_-: why dont you just use the debian package anyway? |
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| 01:37.57 | PeterFA | enouf, is the generator supposed to take care of that? |
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| 01:39.02 | JordiGH | Ah, I can't think of anything more to fix. |
| 01:39.08 | JordiGH | That's the third Debian install this month. |
| 01:39.34 | JordiGH | Do I get GNU brownie points? |
| 01:39.36 | JordiGH | A cookie? |
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| 01:40.41 | liable | !cookie JordiGH |
| 01:40.42 | abrotman | third? |
| 01:40.43 | dpkg | pulls out the cookie jar and finds ... |
| 01:40.46 | abrotman | haha |
| 01:41.37 | JordiGH | abrotman: One EeePC, one Acer, one Dell XPS... |
| 01:41.53 | Guerin | JordiGH: no GNU brownie points, because debian isn't GNU-free |
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| 01:42.22 | JordiGH | Guerin: GNU/Linux! |
| 01:42.29 | JordiGH | Debian is freer than GNU. |
| 01:42.46 | Guerin | JordiGH: no. |
| 01:43.06 | JordiGH | Guerin: Yes. |
| 01:43.25 | liable | not according to RMS |
| 01:43.33 | Guerin | (by definition it's impossible to be freer than GNU, in terms of software freedom, since GNU defines what does and does not constitute software freedom. |
| 01:44.13 | JordiGH | The GFDL doesn't satisfy GNU/Freedom. :-( |
| 01:44.26 | JordiGH | Anyways, i'm just trolling. I'm happy to have finished another Debian install. |
| 01:44.35 | Guerin | :) |
| 01:44.38 | JordiGH | They feel downright artistic. There are different challenges each time. |
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| 01:45.33 | Guerin | it's a bit sad that installing an os on three different machines in one day is considered to be an achievement |
| 01:45.35 | liable | i suspect tomaws bot keeps cycling for spambots? |
| 01:45.49 | abrotman | Guerin: no, month .. not day |
| 01:45.52 | abrotman | liable: yes |
| 01:46.09 | theholyduck | Guerin, i HAVE done it |
| 01:46.18 | Guerin | oh |
| 01:46.20 | theholyduck | but only when doing distro migration on all my boxes |
| 01:46.22 | Guerin | even sadder |
| 01:46.32 | theholyduck | like going from arch back to debian |
| 01:46.48 | reaktae | How can I mount a drive previously used as a raid1 mirror onto a new sytem? mount -t says "wrong fs type" and dmesg says "Can't find ext3 filesystem on dev sdb" PLEASE!? |
| 01:46.56 | JordiGH | Guerin: I don't blame Debian; I blame hardware vendors. The last one was particularly difficult. Nvidia blob and ndiswrapper. :-( |
| 01:46.56 | superlinux | i am doing this : while ( pidof cat ) do du -s /mnt/debian_disk_image_100GB; sleep 1; clear; done; however the pid is shown, i want to suppress it. how? |
| 01:47.11 | Guerin | reaktae: the partition is probably sdb1 or somesuch |
| 01:47.12 | valdyn | reaktae: no ext3 fs on it? |
| 01:47.16 | Guerin | JordiGH: i do too. |
| 01:47.22 | valdyn | reaktae: at least not on sdb |
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| 01:48.32 | superlinux | guys? |
| 01:48.38 | JordiGH | Guerin: I also like to config it beyond the defaults. I spend some time tweaking compiz for my users. :P |
| 01:48.54 | Guerin | JordiGH: what a guy. |
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| 01:49.31 | superlinux | any one? |
| 01:49.42 | JordiGH | superlinux: Try #bash |
| 01:49.47 | superlinux | ok bro |
| 01:49.48 | reaktae | sdb1 said "unknown filesystem type mdraid". should i use some other tools instead of mount? |
| 01:50.09 | zinx | md, perhaps |
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| 01:50.46 | valdyn | reaktae: why dont you start the raid? |
| 01:51.34 | reaktae | valdyn: how do i go about that? I have installed a new system on the other mirror and now i need to pull some data off this one |
| 01:52.08 | valdyn | reaktae: i dont remember exactly.. |
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| 01:52.21 | valdyn | reaktae: mdadm --assemble --auto --scan ? |
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| 01:52.48 | valdyn | reaktae: or by id, and the id you can see in mdadm -Q /dev/sdb1 iirc |
| 01:53.15 | valdyn | reaktae: err or --examine |
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| 01:56.15 | valdyn | reaktae: look at the manpage.. |
| 01:56.22 | reaktae | valdyn: working on it... didn't even have mdadm installed |
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| 02:00.09 | Ace2016_- | valdyn: i'm using the nvidia 180.22 driver, debian does not have that yet |
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| 02:00.24 | valdyn | Ace2016_-: its in experimental |
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| 02:02.05 | valdyn | and this vdpau thing is fucked up |
| 02:02.19 | JordiGH | Okay, I've had this problem before with lenny, but I sidestepped it with fstab. From Gnome, when trying to automount NTFS drives, Nautilus says "invalid mount option". It is not an option to sidestep that this time, because now it's about a USB hdd. |
| 02:02.55 | Guerin | JordiGH: why can't you have a fstab entry for it? |
| 02:03.00 | valdyn | JordiGH: its not nautilus doing this? |
| 02:03.31 | JordiGH | Guerin: Because I'd have to write an fstab entry for each possible USB hdd that could get plugged into this, and that's just the wrong solution anyways, since it should be automounted. |
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| 02:04.01 | JordiGH | valdyn: it almost surely is nautilus doing this, but I don't see anything wrong with the mount options it's using according to gconf. |
| 02:04.35 | valdyn | JordiGH: oh, where are those? |
| 02:04.39 | JordiGH | greps d-user for others having the problem. |
| 02:05.01 | JordiGH | valdyn: grep gconf for ntfs... one sec. |
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| 02:05.58 | boxy | hey guys |
| 02:06.13 | valdyn | JordiGH: i wonder what determines when it uses ntfs-3g |
| 02:06.26 | JordiGH | valdyn: /system/storage/default_options |
| 02:06.27 | Ace2016_- | valdyn: thanks, i'll install now |
| 02:06.33 | boxy | have any of you got a chance to use windows 7 yet? |
| 02:06.41 | abrotman | boxy: wrong channel |
| 02:06.42 | JordiGH | boxy: You're in #debian. |
| 02:07.05 | boxy | it is so much better i was using linux before but then I switched over and i was like yay |
| 02:07.08 | asg | sorry, it appears to be still installing |
| 02:07.20 | JordiGH | boxy: You're still in #debian. |
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| 02:07.33 | boxy | linux was so unstable, i can't believe people actually use it. lol |
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| 02:07.46 | elik | oh yeah |
| 02:07.56 | abrotman | boxy: you've been silenced for 10 minutes for being offtopic |
| 02:07.59 | elik | !abrotman++ |
| 02:08.08 | [NikO] | hi there |
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| 02:08.21 | JordiGH | !greet [NikO] |
| 02:08.21 | dpkg | G'day, [NikO] |
| 02:08.37 | valdyn | JordiGH: i see fstype_override = ntfs-3g in /system/storage/ntfs |
| 02:08.58 | valdyn | JordiGH: and i also see nothing wrong with umask=222 in ntfs |
| 02:09.07 | JordiGH | valdyn: I also seem to not have ntfs-3g installed... |
| 02:09.22 | JordiGH | valdyn: At least the FUSE part of it, seems I have the right kernel module, though. |
| 02:09.34 | JordiGH | tries to see if installing ntfs-3g will fix it. |
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| 02:10.04 | valdyn | JordiGH: override is set already without ntfs-3g installed for you? |
| 02:10.15 | JordiGH | valdyn: Seems like it... |
| 02:10.38 | JordiGH | valdyn: gconf packaging bug? Nautilus packaging bug? |
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| 02:11.09 | valdyn | JordiGH: lets see if ntfs-3g installed fixes it or if removing that override fixes it... |
| 02:11.12 | kingsley | What are the names of some good audio editors, besides audacity and ardour? |
| 02:11.18 | elik | abrotman, I still don't get why you just muted boxy |
| 02:11.27 | asg | elik: obvious troll |
| 02:11.32 | valdyn | elik: hes just trying to troll us |
| 02:11.35 | abrotman | kingsley: i told you how to play a CD |
| 02:11.36 | elik | of course |
| 02:11.44 | elik | I kinda figured that out |
| 02:12.05 | elik | I didn't say "why you muted".. I said why you JUST muted |
| 02:12.17 | valdyn | oh |
| 02:12.23 | asg | elik: so it can come back in 10 minutes and try again |
| 02:12.32 | elik | it, hehe |
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| 02:13.00 | asg | not enough info to determine gender so it works well in this context |
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| 02:14.26 | elik | dunno why.. I like troll |
| 02:14.37 | elik | s |
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| 02:15.01 | elik | feels good to relieve my anger on them... |
| 02:15.11 | JordiGH | elik: http://sums.math.mcgill.ca/~jordi/piccies/trolling.jpg |
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| 02:15.45 | elik | JordiGH, McGill >.> |
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| 02:16.12 | JordiGH | elik: Trolls. |
| 02:16.33 | petemc | elik: there are plenty of networks full of trolls for you to enjoy |
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| 02:16.59 | elik | JordiGH, what have you got a McGill account for? student there? |
| 02:17.05 | elik | petemc, tell me more! |
| 02:17.09 | petemc | efnet |
| 02:17.24 | JordiGH | elik: Alumnus. |
| 02:18.08 | elik | JordiGH, I'm from Université de Sherbrooke.. and know a few ppl from McGill |
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| 02:20.15 | JordiGH | elik: That's nice. :-) But I'm going to have to be unfriendly right now, because I'm not here to socialise right now. |
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| 02:20.42 | elik | JordiGH, you're... on duty? |
| 02:20.46 | JordiGH | valdyn: Installing ntfs-3g didn't fix it, blanking that option seems to work fine. |
| 02:20.51 | JordiGH | elik: I'm trying to fix Debian. |
| 02:21.07 | valdyn | JordiGH: so ntfs-3g support is broken? |
| 02:21.14 | elik | JordiGH, sorry, thought you were giving, not receiving |
| 02:21.32 | JordiGH | valdyn: Well, "fine", now it complains that the NTFS drive wasn't cleanly unmounted. |
| 02:21.39 | valdyn | JordiGH: + having ntfs-3g enabled is broken too |
| 02:21.46 | valdyn | JordiGH: thats ok, you need to ntfsfix |
| 02:22.05 | valdyn | JordiGH: maybe nautilus should do that.. |
| 02:22.06 | JordiGH | valdyn: Oh, I can do that from Debian? I just rebooted back into Windows to fsck it. |
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| 02:22.18 | valdyn | JordiGH: you can do that from debian |
| 02:22.39 | elik | JordiGH, the cleanly unmounted |
| 02:23.19 | valdyn | JordiGH: maybe ntfs-3g worked ok , except that the error message was misleading |
| 02:23.31 | elik | JordiGH, well, doesn't the message says you need to do windows file system check? |
| 02:23.49 | JordiGH | valdyn: I can mount ntfs-3g fine as root... I'm pretty sure I need to fsck the drive. |
| 02:24.07 | elik | JordiGH, had this issues after powering down Windows untidily |
| 02:24.13 | valdyn | elik: ntfs-3g will also complain about not cleanly unmounted |
| 02:24.22 | valdyn | ops |
| 02:24.24 | valdyn | JordiGH: ^^ |
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| 02:24.37 | JordiGH | valdyn: Is ntfsfix safe? My users' data is at stake. |
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| 02:24.48 | valdyn | JordiGH: i dont know |
| 02:24.56 | valdyn | JordiGH: i used it once exactly |
| 02:25.05 | valdyn | JordiGH: i think it only does a journal replay |
| 02:25.31 | asg | !qotd126 |
| 02:25.31 | dpkg | hmm... qotd126 is <helios> sorry for my english: I was rushing on my prompt (silly me!) and just stopped in time an "rm -rf /etc"...but I deleted all /etc/init* files and dirs <asg> helios: restore from backups. <helios> asg, backups? |
| 02:25.54 | JordiGH | chuckles. |
| 02:25.59 | reaktae | valdyn: I've got it under md0 but now i get "unknown filesystem type 'ext4'" i'm out of ideas.. any suggestions? |
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| 02:26.33 | valdyn | reaktae: ext4 is probably not compiled in debian kernels |
| 02:26.43 | abrotman | it is in lenny it seems |
| 02:26.53 | JordiGH | valdyn: Fscking from Vista now... if I had my way, that drive would be reformatted to ext3 or fat32. :-( |
| 02:26.55 | valdyn | abrotman: called what? ext4dev? |
| 02:27.07 | abrotman | i assume that means it's the development version ? |
| 02:27.14 | elik | JordiGH, why don't you have your way? :) |
| 02:27.25 | valdyn | abrotman: thats what it is till 2.6.28 |
| 02:27.28 | valdyn | abrotman: thats what it is till 2.6.27 |
| 02:27.39 | abrotman | so it's there, but not "stable" ? |
| 02:27.53 | valdyn | reaktae: i believe you need to explicitely specific -t ext4 or -t ext4dev |
| 02:28.08 | JordiGH | elik: It's not my machine, my users think they need Windows. |
| 02:28.18 | valdyn | abrotman: devs declared it stable at .28, whatever thats worth |
| 02:28.28 | abrotman | heh |
| 02:28.45 | valdyn | reaktae: i would mount it readonly too, just to be safe |
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| 02:29.13 | elik | JordiGH, you can format it ext3 and have them install ext2ifs :) |
| 02:29.15 | reaktae | valdyn: sounds good. thanks for all your help! |
| 02:29.40 | JordiGH | elik: Not an option... best to ease them into the free experience. |
| 02:29.43 | valdyn | indeed its ext4dev in lenny |
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| 02:30.22 | elik | JordiGH, they wouldn't see a difference.. |
| 02:30.40 | JordiGH | elik: They *always* see a difference. |
| 02:31.54 | elik | JordiGH, btw, your trolls were cool |
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| 02:34.57 | MatBoy | strange, I placed a website on a debian etch install (LAMP) with mod_rewrite and now I get endless loop issues where it worked perfecly on ubuntu :S |
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| 02:35.30 | JordiGH | Conclusion: Debian sucks, Ubuntu doesn't. Fix it, Debianistas! |
| 02:36.16 | MatBoy | JordiGH: no, it's weird |
| 02:36.36 | MatBoy | can't figure out on what level it does exist, apache, php |
| 02:36.43 | JordiGH | MatBoy: It is. Unfortunately, I don't know how to help you. |
| 02:36.45 | elik | JordiGH, >.> |
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| 02:37.01 | alex___ | MatBoy: what does your heart tell you to do? |
| 02:37.02 | Guerin | JordiGH: so use ubuntu. |
| 02:37.35 | MatBoy | alex___: fix it in debian ! |
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| 02:37.43 | alex___ | that's the spirit |
| 02:37.48 | MatBoy | alex___: indeed |
| 02:37.57 | MatBoy | doesn't like default sudo in Ubuntu :) |
| 02:38.12 | alex___ | so give root a pw |
| 02:38.17 | MatBoy | ok, never mind... but what could be a reason ? packages are almost the same |
| 02:38.40 | MatBoy | alex___: hehe, I was thinking about none... SSH doesn't allow access without a password :P |
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| 02:39.00 | alex___ | could be anything |
| 02:39.05 | alex___ | be more specific |
| 02:39.15 | MatBoy | alex___: true, but what would be logical to think about |
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| 02:41.03 | fd_64 | Hey, I installed debian 4.0r6 through a net install onto an older emachine. I installed just the base system. I installed fluxbox, xorg, and gdm...but when I startx I get vertical lines, green and white, and black. |
| 02:41.30 | abrotman | what is your video card? |
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| 02:41.36 | JordiGH | likes sudo, sets it as default. |
| 02:41.38 | reaktae | valdyn: got it. thanks mate! |
| 02:41.59 | fd_64 | I'm using the onboard graphics, it dosent have a separate card |
| 02:42.55 | abrotman | fd_64: lspci | grep VGA |
| 02:43.46 | MatBoy | alex___: must be some weird php issue, or is there a difference between mod_rewrite ? |
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| 02:46.47 | fd_64 | abrotman: 00:01. VGA compatible controller Intel Corporation 92910 CGC Chipset Graphics Controller] (rev 03) |
| 02:47.55 | abrotman | fd_64: install xserver-xorg-video-intel |
| 02:49.24 | abrotman | judd: versions xserver-xorg-video-intel |
| 02:49.25 | judd | abrotman: xserver-xorg-video-intel -- etch: 2:2.2.1-1~etchnhalf2 lenny: 2:2.3.2-2+lenny5 sid: 2:2.3.2-2+lenny5 experimental: 2:2.6.0-1 |
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| 02:51.33 | fd_64 | abrotman: installed it, and typed startx and now the lines are darker |
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| 02:51.47 | abrotman | fd_64: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg .. choose the intel driver |
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| 02:53.42 | MatBoy | could it be that a version difference in mod_rewrite that debian uses and ubuntu uses can give issues? |
| 02:54.21 | pickcoder | finally got luvcview to compile |
| 02:54.36 | fd_64 | abrotman: dpkg-reconfigure gives command not found |
| 02:54.43 | abrotman | as root |
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| 02:55.01 | MatBoy | mhh, ubuntu has 2.2.8 and debain has 2.2.3 |
| 02:55.05 | MatBoy | *debian |
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| 03:00.27 | fd_64 | abrotman: hey, thanks alot! got it going! |
| 03:00.42 | abrotman | fd_64: glad to hear it |
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| 03:02.47 | MatBoy | do most people here use sudo ? I mean... it's nice to have it, it can be a pain too ! |
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| 03:04.58 | craigevil-eee | doesnt have sudo installed on any of my systems |
| 03:05.20 | x1250 | (/me doesn't use sudo in his debian server |
| 03:05.22 | x1250 | oops |
| 03:05.37 | MatBoy | ok, I disklike it if I may be honest :) |
| 03:05.37 | abrotman | x1250: roundcube yes? |
| 03:06.09 | MatBoy | craigevil-eee: have you seen it as something annoying ? |
| 03:06.16 | x1250 | abrotman, roundcube yes, that little piece of...... I got hacked through roundcube the other day :) |
| 03:06.19 | MatBoy | I mean, on heavy admin tasks... |
| 03:06.28 | abrotman | x1250: do you know which version you were running that got hit? |
| 03:06.30 | eduardoj | MatBoy, Use two terminals. One with your user and another with sudo su - |
| 03:06.43 | MatBoy | eduardoj: I |
| 03:06.44 | x1250 | abrotman, give me a sec |
| 03:06.45 | MatBoy | oops |
| 03:06.47 | abrotman | x1250: i ask because i saw the security release, but wasn't sure where you were on that chain |
| 03:07.03 | abrotman | eduardoj: that leaves way too much room for error |
| 03:07.07 | MatBoy | eduardoj: I'm struggeling with some script I need to execute as root every time |
| 03:07.23 | abrotman | MatBoy: why? |
| 03:07.48 | craigevil-eee | i just use su or sux, about the only time i need root is when i am running apt-get ,if i need to edit a file su nano works |
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| 03:08.48 | eduardoj | MatBoy: what script? |
| 03:08.54 | MatBoy | abrotman: I need to make all my scripts special for ubuntu because of sudo, that's actually odd. I can make some if() in it and check if I need to sudo... but still... much more work that is not needed |
| 03:09.15 | MatBoy | eduardoj: to place config files and so on |
| 03:09.16 | abrotman | MatBoy: what does the script do? |
| 03:09.19 | simplechat | MatBoy, how can it be a pain? |
| 03:09.27 | MatBoy | abrotman: add config files, make mailboxes... so on |
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| 03:09.33 | MatBoy | copy files |
| 03:09.39 | MatBoy | so on, so on |
| 03:09.51 | simplechat | Whats wrong with sudo? |
| 03:10.00 | MatBoy | simplechat: it's not "native" anymore... the script that I need to make |
| 03:10.11 | simplechat | native? |
| 03:10.19 | abrotman | MatBoy: use lsb_release ? |
| 03:10.22 | simplechat | i always install it, mainly because its much easier to use then su |
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| 03:10.31 | abrotman | MatBoy: or check for the existence of sudo |
| 03:10.32 | MatBoy | abrotman: never heard about it |
| 03:10.34 | x1250 | abrotman, I think it was 0.1beta, at most 0.1stable, I don't really remeber. It was 0.1 though, I'm sure of that. I had rouncube from last year in there, and completely forgot about it :) |
| 03:10.42 | MatBoy | yes, that is what I can do with an if() |
| 03:10.45 | abrotman | x1250: ah ok |
| 03:10.50 | MatBoy | abrotman: but why should I ? |
| 03:10.53 | abrotman | x1250: https or http ? |
| 03:11.03 | abrotman | MatBoy: because even on ubuntu you can't guarantee sudo ? |
| 03:11.26 | abrotman | i'm guessing anyways ... |
| 03:11.29 | MatBoy | abrotman: what do you mean by guarantee ? |
| 03:11.34 | abrotman | that it might not be there |
| 03:11.40 | abrotman | you should check for sudo before you try to use it |
| 03:11.42 | x1250 | abrotman, Its working on http. |
| 03:11.59 | MatBoy | abrotman: on ubuntu it's there, I would like to disable it acutally |
| 03:12.21 | eduardoj | MatBoy: aptitude purge sudo |
| 03:12.24 | abrotman | x1250: just thought i'd make sure it wasn't the most recent |
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| 03:13.08 | MatBoy | eduardoj: yep, I] |
| 03:13.25 | x1250 | abrotman, yeah it wasn't. |
| 03:13.38 | abrotman | (though the one i had was out of date) |
| 03:13.48 | MatBoy | I'm thinking about it... I have the idea that it's included in ubuntu because more people without experience use it, so it can be more secure that way |
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| 03:16.52 | fd_64 | I started out on ubuntu, so I'm used to it. |
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| 03:17.51 | mydrmeix | where can I get flash64 for testing? |
| 03:18.00 | abrotman | adobe.com or /msg dpkg dmm |
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| 03:18.25 | MatBoy | fd_64: I use both, but still... what do you like about sudo ? |
| 03:18.39 | eduardoj | MatBoy: Maybe its a better option to use a jailed chroot environment, or a virtual machine, without sudo |
| 03:19.09 | Seb | how do I list all the ttf fonts/sizes/styles installed on my system ? Like an xlsftons, but for xft |
| 03:19.56 | fd_64 | MatBoy: Not sure, I've just learned that way when I would look up how to do something in ubuntu. The command would always be sudo whatever. |
| 03:20.01 | MatBoy | eduardoj: lots of possibilities, but I know that the "big guys" like parallels run most scripts remote as root |
| 03:20.40 | MatBoy | fd_64: indeed, you are just using it without any real reason, as most people do |
| 03:21.01 | fd_64 | Is it better to upgrade a system to lenny, or start fresh with a new install? |
| 03:21.21 | Guerin | fd_64: upgrade. |
| 03:21.26 | fd_64 | MatBoy: pretty much, but it does seem somehow more convient |
| 03:21.33 | Guerin | debian needs to be installed once. |
| 03:21.33 | eduardoj | sudo shutdown -h now ## Bye!! |
| 03:22.00 | x1250 | MatBoy, you can check if it is an ubuntu system with lsb_release -is |
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| 03:22.16 | Guerin | fd_64: the words `convenient' and `as root' should not go together. |
| 03:22.22 | MatBoy | x1250: yes, I need to read up about that |
| 03:23.27 | MatBoy | Guerin: so what is your opinion about it than ? |
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| 03:24.36 | Guerin | MatBoy: about sudo? It's a tool, like any tool, which can be used or misused. Like many powerful tools, it's misused by default. |
| 03:25.33 | MatBoy | Guerin: so in your opinion, if I may say so, Ubuntu misuses it by adding it by default ? |
| 03:26.35 | Guerin | MatBoy: ALLALLALL is an abuse, yes. |
| 03:26.53 | x1250 | MatBoy, sudo provides more flexibility than su, you can delegate some administrative responsabilities to some other guy, without giving away the root password. I haven't done that, but you can do it. |
| 03:27.15 | crunge | sudo leaves an audit trail |
| 03:27.31 | Guerin | x1250: it can, yes. But in probably 95% of deployments it's ALLALLALL, and that's like filing the safety catch of your guns because it makes them easier to fire. |
| 03:27.41 | MatBoy | x1250: yes indeed. I'm fuguring out what I shall do... I need to login to some systems by commandline and execute some commands |
| 03:27.53 | crunge | while it may not be valid for security auditing, it's quite valid for "what did I do to hork this box" |
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| 03:28.23 | x1250 | MatBoy, you need to login? or your script? |
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| 03:28.56 | hikenboot | hello all I have built a chroot ssh setup for a use called XY when trying to log in using ssh XY@localhost i get Permission denied, please try again any ideas |
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| 03:29.13 | MatBoy | x1250: my scripts |
| 03:29.40 | MatBoy | Guerin: it's weird indeed that every user can do sudo on a system (Ubuntu) by default when he enters his password |
| 03:29.59 | abrotman | that's what he's saying |
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| 03:30.07 | crunge | Isn't that only the users added during install? |
| 03:30.11 | MatBoy | abrotman: yes, I confirm that |
| 03:30.27 | MatBoy | crunge: it is ALL=ALLALL |
| 03:30.33 | crunge | MatBoy: yikes |
| 03:30.45 | MatBoy | crunge: yes, so I rather don't have sudo in such cases |
| 03:30.51 | x1250 | MatBoy, search google for "expect", there are some libraries for python too, and php. Maybe your language of choice too. You can automate your script to "expect" something, and do some things in an automated way, like login (expect username and password prompt, and answer). Useful stuff. |
| 03:30.55 | MatBoy | and have a rootpassword and use keys |
| 03:31.15 | MatBoy | x1250: yep, played yesterday with it :) |
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| 03:31.21 | MatBoy | fun tool |
| 03:31.28 | atilathehun | http://counter.li.org/ |
| 03:31.32 | crunge | MatBoy: well, I'm personally familiar enough with sudo that when I see it used or install it myself, I check the sudoers file |
| 03:31.39 | abrotman | atilathehun: go away |
| 03:32.24 | MatBoy | crunge: indeed, but that the ubuntu-thinking about it is... it makes out system more secure with ALLALLALL because even unexperienced users use our distro is kinda stupid |
| 03:32.36 | MatBoy | *our |
| 03:32.49 | MatBoy | abrotman: kick him ! |
| 03:33.14 | crunge | MatBoy: that doesn't sound like it could possibly be rational |
| 03:33.50 | MatBoy | crunge: I asked some ubuntu gurus and that should be the way of thinking |
| 03:33.51 | crunge | MatBoy: your statement is that having unexperienced users makes a system more secure |
| 03:33.58 | Guerin | the idea is that barriers which require users to remember complicated passwoirds all the time make them more likely to write them on post-it notes or simply use a root shell by default |
| 03:33.58 | abrotman | ubuntu talk really belongs in #ubuntu |
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| 03:34.05 | MatBoy | crunge: oh no !! |
| 03:34.20 | Guerin | so it's not stupid in principle; just in implementation |
| 03:34.26 | atilathehun | <abrotman> Do you already are you going? |
| 03:34.35 | abrotman | thinks someone is broken |
| 03:34.38 | MatBoy | Guerin: but a stupid way of implementatino |
| 03:34.44 | boxy | hey guys have you seen windows 7 yet? it's awesome |
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| 03:34.52 | pickcoder | !confuse abrotman |
| 03:34.52 | dpkg | No, how are our hamster today, abrotman? wellies of the people's republic of micronesia with extra crabpaste |
| 03:34.52 | Guerin | boxy: you fail at trolling |
| 03:34.57 | boxy | lol |
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| 03:35.18 | x1250 | :) |
| 03:35.20 | crunge | convenience is constantly at war with security. That's just the nature of things. In some places they favor convenience |
| 03:35.32 | MatBoy | abrotman: hehe, and you din't kick that url guy ? |
| 03:36.14 | abrotman | i assume atilathehun accidentally pasted that here |
| 03:36.57 | abrotman | it wasn't really malicious |
| 03:37.20 | mydrmeix | why not let him talk about windows 7, im sick of irc already. |
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| 03:37.57 | octoserver | i tryed win 7, looks ok, but has nothing on kde4 and compizfusion , |
| 03:37.58 | Guerin | mydrmeix: maybe you should join #emofuckwit then |
| 03:38.11 | octoserver | sux if you ask me |
| 03:38.16 | octoserver | not free either ;) |
| 03:38.35 | abrotman | there's a ##windows if you want to talk about it |
| 03:38.49 | pickcoder | grumbles @ UVC |
| 03:38.57 | octoserver | i dont, im finished :) |
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| 03:39.19 | abrotman | there's even #debian-offtopic |
| 03:39.31 | octoserver | debian rocks, long live the debian ! |
| 03:39.48 | atilathehun | counter.li.org is a Linux Counter users |
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| 03:40.04 | abrotman | atilathehun: do you have a Debian question? |
| 03:40.16 | atilathehun | is not harmful |
| 03:40.22 | abrotman | stop pasting it here |
| 03:40.28 | atilathehun | ok.. |
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| 03:41.01 | node8 | is irssi hard to use? |
| 03:41.08 | abrotman | not really |
| 03:41.08 | mydrmeix | ircII |
| 03:41.16 | node8 | for someone not experienced with mirc ? |
| 03:41.31 | abrotman | node8: for basic stuff, it's pretty easy |
| 03:41.37 | node8 | ok |
| 03:41.50 | atilathehun | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:42.07 | MatBoy | this is a good one about sudo: |
| 03:42.12 | MatBoy | Benefits of using sudo: Users don't have to remember an extra password (i.e. the root password), which they are likely to forget. |
| 03:42.24 | abrotman | that doesn't make it good |
| 03:42.40 | MatBoy | hehe, the downside is... every user is root on your system by default :D |
| 03:42.50 | pickcoder | they just forget their own at some point and end up in the same no-root-access boat |
| 03:42.53 | MatBoy | abrotman: no, I wanted to show the opposite |
| 03:43.03 | x1250 | what are the type of headaches to expect from upgrading to lenny? I'm worried about getting new config files from the package provider, and having my own customized config files. What would be the easiest way to update those old (customized) config files with the new ones (the may have new things in them) ? |
| 03:43.04 | MatBoy | pickcoder: LOL |
| 03:43.09 | abrotman | /msg dpkg ifrp |
| 03:43.27 | abrotman | x1250: if yours differs it should ask you before overwriting ... if it doesn't, it's a bug |
| 03:43.34 | MatBoy | x1250: most of the time there is asked if you want to keep your own config files |
| 03:43.35 | pickcoder | if you forget rootpass that often then you need an ironkey with a list of servers/passes |
| 03:43.49 | pickcoder | s/passes/passwds |
| 03:44.10 | x1250 | abrotman, Matboy, right, but if I keep the old one, some times I'll be missing new stuff |
| 03:44.11 | MatBoy | hehe... I have seen it... I don't want sudo for sure now on ubuntu servers |
| 03:44.19 | abrotman | x1250: look at the diff |
| 03:44.31 | abrotman | MatBoy: #ubuntu |
| 03:44.33 | MatBoy | yes, that diff part is really kewl |
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| 03:45.04 | MatBoy | abrotman: you could say I don't even need to go there as debian comes without it |
| 03:45.43 | x1250 | abrotman, ok, so lets suppose the the new conf file brings some necessary new stuff. After seeing the diff, then what? |
| 03:46.11 | abrotman | after you view the diff, if you choose to keep yours, that's fine, if you take the new one it will back up yours and put the new one in place |
| 03:46.31 | MatBoy | is there a repo for debian that holds the same versions for software as ubuntu has ? |
| 03:46.39 | pickcoder | x1250: if the options are totally new then either append them to the current config or drop an updated config.dist in the /etc/<package> dir |
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| 03:46.49 | x1250 | abrotman, well, I guess I wanted to know if that was a manual procedure, keeping the old one, and updating it with the new stuff. |
| 03:47.52 | fd_64 | so we decided that sudo is bad? |
| 03:48.24 | abrotman | x1250: it will ask you, overwriting existing changed conf files is bad bad bad |
| 03:48.36 | MatBoy | fd_64: yes by default on ub... it is |
| 03:48.43 | pickcoder | fd_64: sudo was meant to provide access to users for specific commands, not the entire system |
| 03:48.45 | abrotman | fd_64: if configured poorly, yes |
| 03:48.53 | x1250 | abrotman, ok |
| 03:49.00 | pickcoder | sudoing * for <user> is a big no-no |
| 03:49.08 | MatBoy | it is configured poorly on debian ! |
| 03:49.15 | MatBoy | oops |
| 03:49.17 | MatBoy | ubuntu |
| 03:49.21 | fd_64 | i guess i'll remove myself from the sudoers |
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| 03:49.40 | x1250 | pickcoder, you're saying the the new config file is dropped in /etc/<package> ? |
| 03:49.58 | x1250 | or that I have to drop it? Didn't understand that |
| 03:50.04 | pickcoder | x1250: if you are creating a package upgrade, that's why I'd do. |
| 03:50.09 | MatBoy | is there a way to get debian on the same level of packages that ubuntu has ? their versions are really newer |
| 03:50.12 | pickcoder | s/why/what |
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| 03:50.19 | abrotman | MatBoy: i think you really want #ubuntu |
| 03:50.32 | MatBoy | abrotman: removing sudo is not a good idea it seems |
| 03:50.39 | pickcoder | MatBoy: sure.. run Gentoo and compile everything from source |
| 03:50.39 | MatBoy | so, I would like to stick with debian |
| 03:50.42 | abrotman | not our problem .. go tell them |
| 03:50.48 | MatBoy | pickcoder: hehe and wait 3 days |
| 03:50.58 | pickcoder | MatBoy: if you want brand new software that breaks often goto #ubuntu |
| 03:51.03 | MatBoy | abrotman: no, you see it the wrong way I think |
| 03:51.20 | MatBoy | pickcoder: mhh, never had a broken ubuntu, but I prefer debian |
| 03:51.55 | fd_64 | after the apt-get dist-upgrade finishes, i'm all lenny right? |
| 03:52.05 | abrotman | fd_64: i'd probably run it again to make sure |
| 03:52.06 | MatBoy | fd_64: dist-upgrade |
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| 03:52.12 | MatBoy | yep |
| 03:52.14 | pickcoder | MatBoy: on that note, lets drop the comparisons. You see what's on both distros. |
| 03:52.39 | MatBoy | pickcoder: I needed once to move it U because debian messed up twice with mdadm... |
| 03:53.01 | MatBoy | if should have upgraded at that moment... upgrading was some sort of hobby back those days on my ws |
| 03:53.12 | MatBoy | *shouldn't |
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| 03:59.15 | x1250 | ok, then, I choose to keep my old config, is there anyway to save the diff to a file? so to then review it? |
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| 04:00.04 | abrotman | i think it saves the new one also |
| 04:00.36 | x1250 | oh, that would really good. Is there any documentation about this stuff? How is this topic called? |
| 04:00.52 | x1250 | would + be |
| 04:01.51 | abrotman | i'm sure it's in the packaging manaul |
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| 04:02.08 | x1250 | ok, thanks |
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| 04:04.36 | dzup | hi ...am in windows vista, have you guys try windows 7 yet? its awsome |
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| 04:05.53 | abrotman | throws a cheesesteak at fd_64 |
| 04:06.11 | fd_64 | how will a cheesesteak help? |
| 04:06.25 | abrotman | you'll be unhungry? |
| 04:06.30 | fd_64 | i accidentally hit exit in fluxbox while doing a dist-upgrade |
| 04:06.36 | fd_64 | fixable? |
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| 04:06.54 | abrotman | depends where it was in the process |
| 04:07.13 | abrotman | do it again! |
| 04:07.33 | fd_64 | i will. i had to do some dpkg --reconfigure -a |
| 04:07.47 | lostson | i've done that recently |
| 04:07.51 | fd_64 | said that will fix the dist-upgrade, since i broke that >_< |
| 04:07.55 | lostson | just re-run things it will work out |
| 04:08.53 | fd_64 | cool! I'm still suprised at how fast my junky comp runs with fluxbox ^_^ |
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| 04:13.12 | x1250 | abrotman, there is no link to the packaging manual in here: http://www.debian.org/doc/devel-manuals#packman | should I look into the New Maintainers Guide? |
| 04:13.46 | abrotman | oh .. maybe hte policy manual |
| 04:14.10 | x1250 | ok, thanks |
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| 04:14.51 | abrotman | x1250: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-files.html#s-config-files |
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| 04:15.12 | x1250 | abrotman, thanks, sorry about the trouble. |
| 04:15.18 | Si1ver1ock | my dovecot install is choking on userdb with error message Unknown section type |
| 04:15.52 | abrotman | x1250: at least i think that's what you wanted |
| 04:15.52 | Si1ver1ock | has anyone seen that before? |
| 04:16.06 | abrotman | there is a #dovecot |
| 04:16.27 | lugoblin | Si1ver1ock: check sintax. not dovecot specific... |
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| 04:19.16 | fd_64 | i think i ruined it. |
| 04:19.53 | fd_64 | when i ran apt-get dist-upgrade it said there were no upgrades. so i ran apt-get update and it said stuff was broken...and to use apt-get update to fix it |
| 04:20.10 | abrotman | paste.debian.net .. show us |
| 04:20.14 | abrotman | and you should be using aptitude |
| 04:20.25 | fd_64 | >_< i hate being a noob |
| 04:20.45 | fd_64 | i dont even know what paste.debian.net is or how to use it *slaps self* |
| 04:20.53 | abrotman | you just paste output there |
| 04:21.06 | abrotman | then you give us the URL .. we look at it .. and hopefully give you a solution in 23 seconds |
| 04:21.13 | abrotman | or else your next visit is free! |
| 04:21.25 | x1250 | lol |
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| 04:22.47 | fd_64 | well i cant get to a browser from the computer that is messed up, x dosent work |
| 04:22.59 | abrotman | fd_64: are you IRCing from that box ? |
| 04:23.07 | fd_64 | abrotman: nope |
| 04:23.07 | abrotman | oh .. guess not |
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| 04:23.13 | mlLK | !apt-cache |
| 04:23.13 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, apt-cache is a tool with several commands that query the package cache in various ways. To see versions of a package or which repository is came from, use apt-cache policy foo, apt-cache show foo or apt-cache showpkg foo (searches for reverse dependencies). apt-cache search foo helps finding which packages provide or are related to foo by seearching all package descriptions. man apt-cache |
| 04:23.21 | abrotman | fd_64: how is it messed up? |
| 04:23.28 | abrotman | fd_64: dpkg --configure -a .. say anything ? |
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| 04:24.02 | fd_64 | abrotman: it went though, and just gave me back to the bash input line |
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| 04:24.22 | abrotman | fd_64: and if you aptitude update and then aptitude dist-upgrade ? |
| 04:24.36 | wpalap | "error loading plugin /usr/lib/lives/plugins/effects/realtime/weed/libvis.wo". got this msg when i try to start LiVES. what's wrong? |
| 04:24.44 | fd_64 | abrotman: aptitude dist-upgrade just removed two packages |
| 04:24.55 | abrotman | fd_64: but X stopped working ? |
| 04:25.46 | mlLK | When I run 'apt-get source coreutils' what happens (generally) and where? |
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| 04:26.09 | fd_64 | abrotman: yeah, and I reran aptitude update and it said temporary failure resolving ftp.us.debian.org (or whatever the mirror is) |
| 04:26.29 | abrotman | !tell mlLK about source |
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| 04:26.44 | abrotman | fd_64: does your NIC have an IP ? |
| 04:26.48 | abrotman | ifconfig -a |
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| 04:28.14 | fd_64 | abrotman: guess not...all i get is 127.0.0.1 |
| 04:28.14 | lugoblin | Hello. I'm setting up GPLHost's DTC on a Debian Etch, and can't get rid of "untrusted source" warning for packages from gplhost.com repository. Googling around did not showed the key's location, have not tryed GPLHost's support yet. Maybe someone have/had similar setup and just have the clue? |
| 04:28.14 | abrotman | fd_64: do you know what your NIC card is ? |
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| 04:28.22 | fd_64 | abrotman: can't ping google.com Should I just reinstall? I just installed it tonight |
| 04:28.24 | abrotman | lugoblin: what's the key it's complaining about ? |
| 04:28.48 | abrotman | fd_64: that's up to you .. but if you do, i'd say to install etch and then go to lenny immediately |
| 04:28.55 | abrotman | or get the lenny netinst |
| 04:29.15 | abrotman | fd_64: fixing it might be a decent learning experience :) |
| 04:29.33 | fd_64 | abrotman: Yeah, i could just download the lenny netinst. Does it reallly matter? - I guess it could be, but i would mess it up more lol |
| 04:29.34 | lugoblin | abrotman: aptitude shows this warning for any packages coming from ftp://ftp.gplhost.com/debian/ |
| 04:29.57 | MarcoBXBRO1 | does rsync compress files example backup hd is 40gb it compresses it to 10gb |
| 04:29.58 | abrotman | that's not the warnning |
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| 04:30.10 | abrotman | fd_64: ultimately up to you .. |
| 04:30.18 | abrotman | fd_64: dmesg | grep eth .. does it return anything ? |
| 04:30.25 | mlLK | abrotman, /me was completely oblivious to the fact it created a directory relative to where I executed it. |
| 04:30.35 | mlLK | abrotman, but ty. |
| 04:30.38 | abrotman | mlLK: amazing how 'ls' works :) |
| 04:31.31 | mlLK | abrotman, I need to get in the habit of building from source before I start becoming to co-dependent on all these apt tools and options. |
| 04:31.33 | abrotman | lugoblin: it should say something about key A243CB423DE42 or something |
| 04:31.47 | abrotman | mlLK: apt is bad ? |
| 04:32.24 | mlLK | abrotman, No. It's just not so good for novices like myself. |
| 04:32.36 | fd_64 | abrotman: eth0: AMDtek Comet rev 17 at ....and it goes on. I also have a wirlesscard that I havent setup yet. I have the drivers ready on a flashdrive that is plugged in. |
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| 04:32.42 | abrotman | it is good .. no reason to build from source if you don't have to |
| 04:32.48 | fd_64 | abrotman: Its the belkin f5d7000 |
| 04:32.55 | abrotman | fd_64: only eth0? no eth1 ? |
| 04:33.12 | mlLK | Well, not good, if you want to learn how to do it *right* and learn what is really happening when you compile a package. |
| 04:33.19 | fd_64 | abrotman: correct. Is there a dpkg-reconfigure for network? |
| 04:33.38 | abrotman | fd_64: it shuld be already setup if it worked before |
| 04:34.07 | fd_64 | abrotman: For someone who knows what they are doing, yes. But I broke it, remember lol. |
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| 04:34.41 | abrotman | okay okay |
| 04:34.48 | wpalap | "error loading plugin /usr/lib/lives/plugins/effects/realtime/weed/libvis.wo". got this msg when i try to start LiVES. what's wrong? |
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| 04:35.02 | mlLK | abrotman, I'd feel better if everything I installed w/ apt didn't require sudo |
| 04:35.38 | abrotman | uhm .. |
| 04:35.45 | Guerin | mlLK: then debian is not the distro for you |
| 04:36.18 | lugoblin | abrotman: can't find a way to trigger the key display without attempting to install anything |
| 04:36.29 | abrotman | so do that |
| 04:36.31 | mlLK | not that, I just wish apt had a different mode for standard users, opposed to only admins |
| 04:36.45 | mlLK | as in, using apt for my /home |
| 04:36.47 | Guerin | mlLK: if you'd rather cobble together some system of local installs and custom-built stuff than use an integrated packaging system, use slacware |
| 04:37.07 | mlLK | Guerin, I don't want that. |
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| 04:37.33 | Guerin | why else would you want to install software to /home and build your own in preference? |
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| 04:37.54 | fd_64 | abrotman: I'll just redo it with a lenny netinst. Thanks for all the help. I wrote down everything you helped with. |
| 04:38.16 | abrotman | ok |
| 04:38.29 | abrotman | fd_64: in lenny, you shuldn't have to do an extra step for X .. just install what you want |
| 04:38.32 | mlLK | just cause. . .I don't have a really good reason besides tinkering and not executing something as a su |
| 04:38.37 | abrotman | so aptitude install xorg xdm fluxbox |
| 04:39.47 | Guerin | mlLK: installing software is tinkering? |
| 04:40.19 | Guerin | doesn't get it, but that's coo |
| 04:40.21 | mlLK | Guerin, I'm just saying that tar balls are far more easier than apt, in terms of understanding where something is and how it was made. |
| 04:40.41 | Guerin | mlLK: only if you don't know how apt works, and don't take any tyime to find out. |
| 04:40.55 | Guerin | it's not like tarballs were very easy before you took the time to figure them out, either. |
| 04:41.02 | Rusty1 | gentoo might be an option mILK, somewhere in between |
| 04:41.21 | Guerin | hah |
| 04:41.30 | Rusty1 | ducks |
| 04:41.39 | Guerin | depends whether you can afford to wait an hour between wanting to install something and wanting to use it |
| 04:41.46 | Guerin | or two hours, or half a day |
| 04:41.58 | Guerin | and then there's the hand-holding |
| 04:42.06 | mlLK | lol oh ya |
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| 04:42.44 | fd_64 | abrotman: netinst or businesscard? |
| 04:42.59 | mlLK | apt is harder to understand because the program and configuration is nearly builtin into the system. . .vs. . .a tar ball is not |
| 04:43.18 | abrotman | netinst |
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| 04:43.34 | abrotman | mlLK: i think you're in the wrong channel |
| 04:43.37 | Guerin | mlLK: they *are* built into the debian system, that's the purpose. It's integrated so it all plays nice together. |
| 04:44.03 | mlLK | Ya, sorry, losing my train of thought |
| 04:44.13 | Guerin | it means that once you figuire out how the apt system works, you needn't spend more than a few minutes a week on package management |
| 04:44.44 | Guerin | if you prefer to have to do things from scratch, debian is probably not your ideal OS |
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| 04:45.17 | mlLK | Guerin, I don't but, doing something from scratch is a good way for learning how to do something. |
| 04:45.38 | mydrmeix | im wondering how to get 6 channel sound in ETQW (probably 32bit libs) cuz nexuiz64 plays 6 channel |
| 04:46.03 | simonrvn | for me the vast majority of stuff is packaged, and a handful of things i either build myself and stuff into /usr/local/ or bother to package it. |
| 04:46.12 | fd_64 | abrotman: well even my failure was a learning experience - DON'T stop dist-upgrades in the middle! (and you said to use aptitude over apt-get?) |
| 04:46.53 | Guerin | fd_64: that's a double-affirmative |
| 04:46.55 | abrotman | fd_64: in most circumstances, yes |
| 04:47.20 | mlLK | simonrvn, Right, I've been using /opt for that sorta thing. |
| 04:47.34 | Rusty1 | http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ mILK knock yourself out |
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| 04:47.48 | simonrvn | do i have someone on ignore? |
| 04:47.54 | mlLK | maybe some other time, I don't wanna open that can of worms just yet. |
| 04:48.01 | abrotman | he should really just go to ##linux .. apparently Debian isn't for him |
| 04:48.09 | fd_64 | abrotman: alright, and any suggestions on wifi managers? |
| 04:48.09 | mlLK | Ya I'm sorry I'm done. |
| 04:48.12 | abrotman | or whatever distro he's using |
| 04:48.26 | abrotman | fd_64: i don't use one .. i edit the conf file directly .. i'm lazy |
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| 04:57.02 | clueless27 | (i have users with same name...) |
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| 04:59.31 | josinalvo | I there. i dont seem to be able to convice dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to ask me abou screen resolution ... |
| 04:59.41 | josinalvo | can sb help me ? |
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| 05:00.16 | jello | josinalvo: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg |
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| 05:01.57 | Guerin | jello: go back to #ubuntu, n00b :) |
| 05:02.04 | josinalvo | jello: it still just asks one question about framebuffer and the rest about keyboard ... |
| 05:02.12 | afabian | Do the r releases (like 4.0r6) update hardware support, or is it more of a security patches and critical bug fixes thing? |
| 05:02.23 | jello | !insult Guerin |
| 05:02.24 | dpkg | Guerin is nothing but a saucyspleened half-mouthful of low-quality guano |
| 05:02.32 | Guerin | afabian: the latter. For new hardware support you want etchnhalf (ask dpkg about it) |
| 05:02.45 | afabian | Ah, I see. Thanks! |
| 05:02.59 | Guerin | a half-mouthful indeed! I can assure readers that I am more than a whole mouthful! |
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| 05:03.07 | jello | heh |
| 05:03.34 | yao | hola hola... |
| 05:03.41 | jello | !greet yao |
| 05:03.41 | dpkg | Gr33tz, yao |
| 05:03.55 | yao | como andan?? |
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| 05:24.42 | Guerin | clueless27: you're better off asking in the channel of your imapd |
| 05:24.54 | clueless27 | Guerin: thanks |
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| 05:38.32 | joansh | Hi all |
| 05:38.56 | joansh | Is there anyway to list all available wireless networks in text mode ? |
| 05:39.02 | joansh | I use iwconfig to connect |
| 05:39.18 | joansh | so how do I see a list of networks to connect to |
| 05:40.11 | Gun_Smoke | iwlist <interface> scan |
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| 05:42.28 | joansh | oh.. thanks Gun_Smoke let me try that out |
| 05:44.20 | joansh | yeah it works, thanks |
| 05:44.26 | Gun_Smoke | np |
| 05:44.32 | joansh | so how long have you been using debian ? |
| 05:44.51 | Gun_Smoke | couple years |
| 05:44.52 | joansh | I started with Sarge, switched to Ubuntu and back to Debian with etch |
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| 05:45.06 | joansh | Actually started with Redhat 9 |
| 05:45.08 | joansh | :) |
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| 05:45.31 | joansh | But I still dont feel like a Linux hacker yet |
| 05:45.33 | joansh | Heh |
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| 05:47.44 | Tidus | i started with mandrake 8, tried em all |
| 05:48.49 | joansh | I have looked into the BSD`s and Solaris too.. the problem with BSDs is the hardware support |
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| 05:49.23 | joansh | Even though my laptop is almost 2 years old now.. they dont support my sound card or even my lan card ! |
| 05:49.40 | joansh | freebsd does it though... net/open bsd dont |
| 05:50.19 | joansh | I used mandrake 10 which was the 1st version of mandrake I used.. I loved it too.. everything worked out of the box |
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| 05:51.00 | joansh | I have tried all those funny named distros at Distrowatch as well, but I fall back to debian after a couple of weeks |
| 05:51.05 | afabian | joansh: FreeBSD is bigger (more developers, more money, more everything.) That's not too surprising. |
| 05:51.14 | joansh | afabian: Yes |
| 05:51.22 | joansh | Its the popular of the BSD`s |
| 05:54.08 | joansh | How do I reattach a screen session from another laptop ? |
| 05:54.24 | joansh | After doing ssh , I can just do screen -r ? |
| 05:55.20 | supersoundguy | joansh screen -raAd |
| 05:55.32 | joansh | r is remote ? |
| 05:55.33 | supersoundguy | that will resize the window correctly and detach it if needed |
| 05:55.43 | joansh | sorry, |
| 05:55.47 | joansh | Ok |
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| 05:57.04 | supersoundguy | the r is for resume :) |
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| 05:59.05 | Tidus | screen -raAd = reattach here, do whatever it takes to attach here, detach elsewhere |
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| 06:06.27 | kingsley | Is there a command which can upgrade a certain package's dependencies? |
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| 06:11.08 | Brack10 | Hi there |
| 06:13.20 | Brack10 | so the debian docs tell you just to use swat to add printers or the gnome/kde print utilities...can you do all printer administration via these utilities including troubleshooting? |
| 06:13.42 | hoxu | kingsley, if you find it, let us know... aptitude patterns might help there - but if upgrading the package does not pull right dependencies we are speaking of a bug :) |
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| 06:16.59 | kingsley | hoxu: I haven't found a single command, and I haven't tried this, but the following combination that I just hacked together might work... |
| 06:17.30 | kingsley | aptitude install $(dpkg -s <package-name> | egrep ^Depends | sed 's/^Depends: //' | sed 's/ ([^(]*,/ /g' | sed 's/ (.*/ /') |
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| 06:27.18 | craigevil | reinstalling the app doesnt pull in the depends? or are they recommends/suggest that you are wanting |
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| 06:39.35 | kunwon1 | Is there someone who's more familiar with mono/moonlight/silverlight2 who can tell me if there's any way i'm going to be able to watch silverlight2 (inauguration) in iceweasel? |
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| 06:41.56 | hoxu | kingsley, in aptitude UI, press 'l' for limit pattern and try '~U~Rpackage' |
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| 06:45.49 | hoxu | kingsley, you can give that pattern for search or install from commandline as well |
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| 06:54.56 | craigevil | kunwon1: you can try using the moonlight plugin that is in the debian-multimedia.org repo |
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| 06:59.58 | batcoder-7 | how can i find out my total cpu usage ? |
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| 07:01.13 | hoxu | batcoder-7, top? |
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| 07:04.34 | batcoder-7 | hoxu, which thing is my total cpu usage ? |
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| 07:05.59 | hoxu | batcoder-7, check the Cpu(s) line, and see "man 1 top" below "CPU States" |
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| 07:07.14 | hoxu | batcoder-7, you are probably interested of the 'id' part which shows how much is not used :p |
| 07:08.48 | batcoder-7 | so i guess the us is the total being used |
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| 07:15.21 | jtier | hey guys i am trying to setup a vsftp server, i added a user called ftp user, and I added the home directory for user to /var/www/ftp, but when i login as the user, i don't see files in that folder, am I doing something wrong here ? |
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| 07:17.07 | ilaiho | can I somehow boot Debian with everything read-only? |
| 07:17.35 | hanibana | hi all :) |
| 07:17.38 | hanibana | I have an ext3 filesystem about 1 Gig size. I am filling it for some test resaon. Now, the status is such that I can't create a file even with one char content. But the df command gives me this output: |
| 07:17.55 | hanibana | Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on |
| 07:18.03 | hanibana | /dev/hda5 964500 964484 0 100% /parest |
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| 07:18.15 | hanibana | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:20.38 | kagi | hi! how will www-data user be allowed to execute root commands? |
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| 07:20.53 | hoxu | hanibana, dumpe2fs -h /dev/hda5 |grep ^Reserved |
| 07:21.10 | hanibana | hoxu: wow! thanks. I see |
| 07:21.39 | hoxu | kagi, you don't want to do that :P |
| 07:22.47 | batcoder-7 | .join #xubuntu |
| 07:23.07 | kagi | hoxu: like for example kedit. for local use only. |
| 07:23.58 | hoxu | kagi, rephrase your question |
| 07:24.44 | hoxu | jtier, ls -ld /var/{,www/{,ftp}} |
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| 07:25.48 | kagi | hoxu: What i was doing is to execute a command using proc_open() like this: $process = proc_open('sfmike 192.168.250.246 -A', $descriptorspec, $pipes, $cwd, $env); so that sfmike will connect to some ip address |
| 07:28.04 | kagi | hoxu: sorry, just the "sfmike 192.168.250.246 -A" but nothing happend |
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| 07:29.20 | hoxu | kagi, so check that the binary is in path, can be found by php, and check the return value... something could also be in the error log of apache |
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| 07:59.21 | cammoblammo | Does anyone have any idea why bzr hasn't been updated in sid for so long? |
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| 08:01.32 | supersoundguy | cammoblammo: what version is in sid? |
| 08:01.42 | hoxu | cammoblammo, experimental has a newer version |
| 08:02.02 | hoxu | !tell cammoblammo about freeze |
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| 08:02.53 | cammoblammo | Sid has 1.5. I didn't realise Sid had been frozen yet. |
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| 08:03.23 | cammoblammo | The experimental version seems pretty close to upsteam. I might have a look. |
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| 08:08.26 | jackweb | Hello, I´d like to run a program at startup as root. How to do it? |
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| 08:11.15 | hoxu | !tell jackweb about rc.local |
| 08:12.14 | jackweb | nice bot :> |
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| 08:12.21 | jackweb | thank you :) |
| 08:13.25 | hugh | !rc.local |
| 08:13.25 | dpkg | well, rc.local is /etc/rc.local is a script called by /etc/init.d/rc.local which is typically one of the last things to be run during the boot sequence. If you have commands you want run at boot, edit /etc/rc.local (don't touch /etc/init.d/rc.local). rc.local is considered a hack, consider writing a real init script (ask me about <init.d>). |
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| 08:13.54 | hanibana | hoxu: The "Reserved block count" section of a partition is separated from the size that utlities such df/du... display? and can NOT be used for storing regular data. right? |
| 08:14.27 | hoxu | hanibana, it's reserved for root alone, in case the partition gets full and root has to do something |
| 08:14.51 | hoxu | hanibana, df shows "100%" when the regular users can't use anymore space IIRC, I'm not sure if reserved blocks explain the difference in your df output though |
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| 08:15.18 | jackweb | ok |
| 08:15.23 | jackweb | good bye :) |
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| 08:19.28 | hanibana | Now, I am root. and my df /dev/hda5 output says 16K remaining. So, the question is "have this reserved blocks(12249 blocks) been consumed?! I don't see this remaining 16K blocks in the dump2fs output. |
| 08:20.12 | hanibana | is there any good info source for this? |
| 08:21.57 | hoxu | hanibana, probably something has used the reserved space for logging etc after you filled the partition |
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| 08:23.35 | hanibana | hoxu: I don't think so. I have created this partition only for my test. And is Not like /tmp or /var... |
| 08:24.25 | hoxu | hanibana, did you fill it as root or regular user? |
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| 08:24.39 | hanibana | hoxu: as root |
| 08:24.58 | hoxu | then you should've exhausted the reserved space as well |
| 08:25.12 | hoxu | what was the problem again? :P |
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| 08:52.28 | hanibana | hoxu: thank u :) |
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| 08:56.56 | Brack10 | I'm trying to connect my Ubuntu box to my Debian box via samba. The guide on Debian's wiki for configuring a share worked OK but anonymous didn't have write permissions so I followed this ( http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/FastStart.html#id2546704 ) guide and now I can't even see the share from Ubuntu. In fact I can't even see print$ anymore, can anyone help? |
| 08:58.19 | cahoot | off topic answer: not considered nfs? |
| 08:59.10 | Brack10 | cahoot: I don't understand |
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| 09:00.41 | Tidus | ok i have an nfs question. server's running debian, client is fedora |
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| 09:01.37 | Tidus | i'm logged in as the same user on both machines, and the client can create files, but not erase. traced the problem down to fedora using UID 500 for my user, debian using 1000. how would i go about tricking the debian machine into thinking UID 500 is my user on the server? |
| 09:02.39 | Tidus | i already have it set to trust nobody, treat untrusted users as me |
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| 09:08.29 | Tidus | basically, it boils down to the client can create but not delete files |
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| 09:10.48 | Brack10 | now ftpd isn't working either |
| 09:10.51 | Brack10 | sweet |
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| 09:47.13 | oira | i have a problem on my network, for some reason i can ping 192.168.1.1 (router) but not my server 192.168.1.35 (my ip is 192.168.1.34). this used to work before but does not work now. is this a server setting or what? |
| 09:47.19 | oira | or the router? |
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| 09:47.27 | shams | hi, i want to write and archive our school booklets with my laptop. do you think with which software i can do it? |
| 09:47.39 | oira | shams: what is a booklet |
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| 09:49.04 | shams | oira: lessons of teacher |
| 09:49.23 | phorce1 | shams: OpenOffice should have the tools you would need |
| 09:49.45 | phorce1 | oira: what about pinging the other way -- from .35 to .34? |
| 09:50.00 | shams | phorce1: do you know any software like microsoft one note? |
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| 09:51.13 | phorce1 | shams: I don't know any M$ software so I don't know what One Note looks like |
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| 09:53.09 | oira | phorce1: same issue |
| 09:53.25 | oira | phorce1: i tried pinging yet another box and that does not work either |
| 09:53.25 | oira | i think the packets are getting filtered |
| 09:53.46 | oira | like the router is not letting them through |
| 09:54.24 | oira | but when i login to my router i dont see a option that would correspond to this issue. so i am unsure of the problem |
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| 09:58.25 | phorce1 | oira: definitely sounds like it's the router doing it. Do you have a switch handy? Plug the switch into a single output of the router then plug the computers into the switch. Using IP addresses they should talk to each other directly through the switch, completely ignoring the router. That's a way to test if it's the router. |
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| 09:59.28 | phorce1 | Also, have you tried powering down, then up, the router? |
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| 10:00.50 | phorce1 | We had some old 3Com switches in the office that would get their routing tables filled up if we connected/disconnected machines too much. They had to be powercycled to start passing data correctly when that happened. |
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| 10:04.00 | oira | yes |
| 10:04.04 | oira | i have tried poewr down and up |
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| 10:04.08 | oira | that has not helped |
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| 10:04.44 | oira | the thing is this router is weird, the traffic for example if somebody starts downloading he gets all the bandwidth and makes it unuable for the rest of us etc |
| 10:05.19 | oira | i do not have a switch handy but that was a good tip |
| 10:05.20 | oira | :) |
| 10:05.21 | oira | thanks |
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| 10:06.11 | phorce1 | oira: Switch to linksys ;-) |
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| 10:06.57 | oira | phorce1: yes i got this adsl router thingy from my ISP |
| 10:07.34 | oira | it is not very good |
| 10:08.35 | oira | im using a differnt one now but its not mine |
| 10:10.15 | K_Sakura | "/usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file `txtobj/magic-interpreter-lexer.o' is incompatible with i386:x86-64 output" what's this mean? |
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| 10:13.25 | buntfalke | Can anyone give me a hint for making the lenovo integrated smart card reader of the t61 work with libchipcardd? |
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| 10:15.17 | bob` | hello. |
| 10:16.35 | bob` | is there a tool which enables me to see what a user on a remote linux box is doing on his desktop (gui) in order to help him? (i do have ssh access) |
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| 10:17.35 | bob` | i think vnc is not an option, because i think i will get my own session, neither i do see what he is doing nor does he see what i would like to show him - right? |
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| 10:21.00 | buntfalke | bob`: wrong |
| 10:21.02 | buntfalke | :-) |
| 10:21.57 | buntfalke | You can use krdc and krfb. simple, easy to use, does exactly what you want. |
| 10:22.33 | buntfalke | vnc can be used in either way, i guess. own session and shared session. for nx it is default to have an own session, wether sharing is possible, i dunno. |
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| 10:27.31 | oboenbob | buntfalke: sorry i got disconnected, what did you say |
| 10:27.55 | Rawplayer | 112103 <buntfalke> bob`: wrong |
| 10:27.55 | Rawplayer | 112104 <buntfalke> :-) |
| 10:27.55 | Rawplayer | 112200 <buntfalke> You can use krdc and krfb. simple, easy to use, does exactly what you want. |
| 10:27.57 | buntfalke | bob`: wrong :-) You can use krdc and krfb. simple, easy to use, does exactly what you want. vnc can be used in either way, i guess. own session and shared session. for nx it is default to have an own session, wether sharing is possible, i dunno. |
| 10:27.58 | Rawplayer | 112235 <buntfalke> vnc can be used in either way, i guess. own session and shared session. for nx it is default to have an own session, wether sharing is possible, i dunno. |
| 10:28.11 | buntfalke | Rawplayer: dont flood :-) |
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| 10:29.01 | Rawplayer | was only helping |
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| 10:29.36 | oboenbob | Rawplayer & buntfalke - thank you. i will read about krdc and krfb. |
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| 10:30.35 | buntfalke | oboenbob: it is pretty straight forward. install, open, use, close, be happy :-) |
| 10:31.49 | c369 | hey, i want to disable my root account and only work with sudo, now before disabling root with <passwd -l root> I want to be sure I did everything right, my other user is in the sudoers like this: 'myuser ALL=(ALL) ALL'. I did this some time ago and I think the user also had to be in a specific group, is that correct? |
| 10:31.53 | oboenbob | (read manpages of vncviewer - i guess shared means shared between several vncviewers) |
| 10:32.23 | c369 | can't find anything about that in the manpage though |
| 10:32.47 | cahoot | c369: what are you trying to accomplish with that? |
| 10:33.05 | c369 | cahoot, I'm just used to it |
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| 10:33.26 | cahoot | c369: ubuntufying your debian? |
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| 10:34.32 | K_Sakura | Ubuntu has no root? |
| 10:34.44 | c369 | cahoot, why that hostility? |
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| 10:35.19 | cahoot | c369: hostility? |
| 10:35.53 | cahoot | c369: perplexed more like it |
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| 10:36.18 | c369 | cahoot, alright :) well I don't see the advantages of a 'real' root |
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| 10:37.01 | K_Sakura | Not depending on sudo, for one? |
| 10:37.04 | cahoot | c369: it's more an obfuscation than anything else |
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| 10:39.56 | c369 | I find it inconvenient always having to change to non-x-shell or loging in with another user just to do some modifications, so I will use sudo and I might as well disable root then |
| 10:40.20 | unop | c369, if your sudoers is setup that way - you shouldn't need to put the user in any additional groups |
| 10:40.37 | c369 | unop, alright, thanks! |
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| 10:40.49 | oboenbob | ok. i read krfb --help-all and krdc --help-all. they seem to be exactly what i need. but i do not see how to configure the ports (for ssh tunneling). can someone give me a hint? |
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| 10:45.19 | oboenbob` | again disconnected - sorry |
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| 10:49.43 | buntfalke | oboenbob`: google ssh tunnel, use a vpn, and look at nx if you dont have a fast connection. |
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| 10:53.51 | funky | hello |
| 10:53.55 | funky | how can I fix this package ? |
| 10:53.57 | funky | iHR openoffice.org-gcj 1:2.4.1-15 OpenOffice.orgs Java libraries (native for u |
| 10:54.01 | funky | I can't even purge it |
| 10:54.46 | oboenbob` | buntfalke: i normally use ssh-tunnels for vnc - so that is no problem. |
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| 10:56.55 | oboenbob` | buntfalke: with nx you mean no-machine? |
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| 10:58.56 | Elvis | slaps lavluda around a bit with a large trout |
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| 11:02.42 | funky | oboenbob`: there is also a free implementation called freenx |
| 11:02.57 | funky | no-machine is free but closed |
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| 11:03.23 | funky | but the core libs |
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| 11:04.39 | oboenbob` | funky: freenx is better for low-bandwidth connection remote control? |
| 11:05.36 | oboenbob` | (but as i see it is not in my repo) - so it would be too complicated to install it on the remote machine. |
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| 11:08.08 | buntfalke | oboenbob`: no machine is the company, nx is a protocol they developed, freenx is a free nx server, the clients are always free |
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| 11:14.40 | peterm | hi which tool reads file names from stdin and outputs their contents on stdout? |
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| 11:15.50 | darrh00 | when using apt-get souce to download a source package,is it possible to only download "debian/" directory? because I only need this directory to package a new upstream version of a cerntain package. |
| 11:16.11 | themill | peterm: xargs cat |
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| 11:18.15 | peterm | thx |
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| 11:21.06 | JyZyXEL | neither konqueror or iceweasel will start |
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| 11:21.12 | JyZyXEL | they both say "konqueror: cannot connect to X server :0.0 |
| 11:22.16 | peterm | thx themill |
| 11:22.27 | debiannoob | themill:compiz works now on my desktop |
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| 11:22.52 | debiannoob | themill:how to take a screenshot of compiz in action? |
| 11:23.13 | JyZyXEL | what the heck is wrong with this? |
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| 11:23.50 | JyZyXEL | i can't start anything |
| 11:23.56 | JyZyXEL | they just all say unable to open display |
| 11:25.33 | debiannoob | how to take a screenshot of compiz? |
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| 11:27.06 | themill | debiannoob: no idea if it works with compiz, but /msg dpkg screenshot |
| 11:27.20 | debiannoob | ok |
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| 11:30.46 | debiannoob | themill:i want to take a screenshot of the desktop cube |
| 11:30.55 | Danielss89 | Hi.. in which file are my usernames and passwords stored for SSH? At the moment i get access denied over ssh but i can login with ftp.. |
| 11:31.12 | debiannoob | themill:compiz has a plugin for taking screenshots |
| 11:31.23 | debiannoob | themill:but it doesnt work |
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| 11:32.55 | superlinux | hi all |
| 11:33.45 | debiannoob | superlinux:you havent come here to say hi |
| 11:33.50 | superlinux | the kern.log has this "dpti: adpt_config_hba: pci request region failed" |
| 11:34.08 | superlinux | debiannoob, true |
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| 11:34.34 | superlinux | so i donno how to get rid of this error. |
| 11:35.06 | superlinux | i have an adaptec 2010S i2o raid |
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| 11:35.27 | pivot_ | this is perhaps a little off-topic, but since i believe that here are many site-admins: i've got a site-network with over 25mio. page-impressions per day, causing very much traffic. just recently i decided to ban some spiders, which seem to be pretty aggressive - for example; twiceler .. could someone suggest any other bot that causes really much traffic? using searchengines to find such bots is not that easy as it sounds |
| 11:35.28 | debiannoob | superlinux:are you asking me? |
| 11:35.48 | superlinux | any one who can help or had this device before |
| 11:36.13 | debiannoob | superlinux:what does my name suggest? |
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| 11:37.03 | superlinux | you are a noob |
| 11:37.14 | debiannoob | right |
| 11:37.23 | superlinux | thats! kewl! |
| 11:37.37 | superlinux | :D |
| 11:37.48 | debiannoob | superlinux:so funny! |
| 11:37.50 | Elvis | this conversation is funny on so many different, weird, levels |
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| 11:38.27 | superlinux | any way. i need a solution for my problem. |
| 11:38.44 | debiannoob | i dont know any |
| 11:38.45 | superlinux | i am researching goole |
| 11:38.51 | superlinux | i am researching in google |
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| 11:39.03 | cahoot | the nick implies selfsufficiency |
| 11:39.19 | debiannoob | any of you know how to take screenshots of compiz in action? |
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| 11:53.00 | reaktae | i need help trying to mount a raid1 etx4 drive using mdadm. i gave it a test_fs flag so i can work with it but i have no idea what to make of the 4 partitions on it. i can only mount sdb3, the rest say "/dev/sdb# has no superblock". the thing is, when i mount just that one, i get input/output errors when trying to copy files of it. |
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| 12:11.46 | Danielss89 | Hi.. in which file are my usernames and passwords stored for SSH? At the moment i get access denied over ssh but i can login with ftp.. |
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| 12:17.25 | cahoot | AFAIK ssh uses the same as the rest of the system |
| 12:17.50 | Danielss89 | cahoot ok and thats /etc/passwd |
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| 12:18.20 | cahoot | try ssh -vv to get a more verbose log |
| 12:19.04 | Danielss89 | hehe cahoot i cannot access ssh :D |
| 12:19.04 | cahoot | might give some insight to the cause of your problem |
| 12:19.04 | Danielss89 | thats the problem.. |
| 12:19.40 | cahoot | try ssh -vv user@server |
| 12:21.37 | Danielss89 | i cannot access the server cahoot.. |
| 12:22.13 | cahoot | right |
| 12:22.22 | Danielss89 | cahoot: its a webserver.. i cannot access SSH but i can access all my files over FTP.. |
| 12:22.30 | Danielss89 | so i need to change the password for ssh.. |
| 12:22.44 | cahoot | did you even try ssh -vv? |
| 12:22.49 | gray-- | Danielss89: nothing will be stored in your home directory.... you might get a password hash out of /etc/shadow |
| 12:23.01 | gray-- | you might be able to download that, replace the hash, and re-upload |
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| 12:23.15 | Danielss89 | gray-- what hash is used? |
| 12:23.43 | gray-- | but, that's probably balls, because if you had the root password to be able to upload it, you'd have ssh'd by now |
| 12:23.50 | superlinux | guys! how can i force loading a module before the other? |
| 12:24.06 | superlinux | guys! how can i force loading a module/driver before the other? |
| 12:24.35 | gray-- | Danielss89: look up 'linux password recovery' in google |
| 12:24.47 | gray-- | you might end up needing physical access to the system |
| 12:25.11 | gray-- | Danielss89: what you could do.... is upload a new public key into your ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file |
| 12:25.58 | Danielss89 | ok gray--: I will mail the hosting company and make them fix it instead. It would be stupid if i fucked something up.. |
| 12:26.04 | gray-- | Danielss89: but again, if you have the ftp password....in most set ups it's rare for the ftp pass to need to be different from the ftp pass |
| 12:26.27 | xand | ewww |
| 12:26.36 | xand | I'd never want a password to work for ssh and ftp |
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| 12:26.51 | xand | ftp shouldn't be used with username/password, it's too insecure. |
| 12:26.58 | gray-- | xand: in that case, my company would freak you out |
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| 12:27.18 | xand | it wouldn't, because people do it all the time, but they shouldn't |
| 12:27.23 | xand | !ftpmustdie |
| 12:27.23 | dpkg | FTP MUST DIE! http://wooledge.org/mywiki/FtpMustDie |
| 12:27.40 | xand | should be using sftp or scp |
| 12:28.02 | cahoot | ssh is so secure he can't even log in |
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| 12:28.25 | xand | hehe |
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| 12:29.03 | gray-- | Danielss89: if you have ftp, try uploading a new public key, might be the easiest answer |
| 12:29.14 | superlinux | guys! how can i force loading a module/driver before the other? |
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| 12:29.54 | kakashi_ | can I shift the apt-get from using ubuntu's repository to debians repository? |
| 12:29.54 | Danielss89 | gray--: ok i dont know anything about that. So i think i will let the hosting company fix it :) but thanks |
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| 12:30.25 | cahoot | superlinux: one clumsy way could be be blacklist them, then load them from /etc/modules in the preferred order |
| 12:30.39 | superlinux | ah ok |
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| 12:31.15 | superlinux | cos i get this on my Adaptec 2010S dpti: adpt_config_hba: pci request region failed |
| 12:31.21 | hoxu | kakashi_, no, you can't mix distros or even different versions of distros |
| 12:31.35 | kakashi_ | ah! |
| 12:31.45 | superlinux | i searched until my neck got broken. nothing of interest |
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| 12:32.21 | cahoot | superlinux: unless there are some udev rule(s) to edit |
| 12:32.35 | superlinux | ok |
| 12:32.39 | superlinux | we'll see |
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| 12:36.50 | nan8 | question regarding udev: it seems all external usb drives do have group read/write permissions (91-permissions.rules) - is that a sensible default? |
| 12:38.03 | nan8 | the important point i missed above: the group is floppy |
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| 12:43.17 | ukl | hello. I'm confused with a packet. I can successfully build it via make, there's a debian/ directory and a Makefile target für snapshot-deb to create a deb package (using dpkg-buildpackage). In order to get it to work with plain "make" I need CFLAGS+="-fPIC" -- What's the right procedure to create the .deb file? (I tried adding CFLAGS+=".." almost everywhere...no luck) |
| 12:44.04 | nan8 | nan8 (to self): changelog suggestes that this was introduced because of #437520 |
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| 12:45.32 | s0ttle | thanks |
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| 12:46.20 | AussieGuy | Ive got a debain server set up and its working well, now I want to set up a second one exactly the same but on a different IP address. Can I simply install debain on the second one then use rsync to sync the changes over? |
| 12:46.54 | AussieGuy | I wont have boot access to the new server, its all done remotely by ssh |
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| 12:48.23 | DukeDrake | hi |
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| 12:50.47 | nan8 | ukl: take a look at the debian/rules file |
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| 12:52.05 | DukeDrake | I need to learn a bit more about configuring routes ... |
| 12:52.26 | nan8 | AussieGuy: probably a bad idea |
| 12:52.36 | DukeDrake | --> how can I backup a routing table? How can I directly edit it without the need of 'route' ? |
| 12:53.12 | AussieGuy | what would be a better way? |
| 12:53.12 | DukeDrake | And finally I probably have to fix it, as I can't access the internet at this time. |
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| 12:55.01 | AussieGuy | ive thought of writing an install script which apt-get installs everything required then copies over my config files and scripts |
| 12:55.29 | nan8 | AussieGuy: depends on how many modifications you did to the system |
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| 12:57.11 | DukeDrake | Anyone knwo how to fix route table? o.o |
| 12:57.12 | AussieGuy | well, its got alot of stuff, apache, php, mysql, various utilities, scripts ive written myself, bittorrent seedbox, bittorrent tracker....most of it is set up customized |
| 12:57.50 | nan8 | AussieGuy: in the old days dpkg --get-selections and dpkg --set-selections / and the preseed feature of the installer might be interesting for you, too - i think there is a section about that stuff in the manual |
| 12:57.58 | reaktae | is there a way to pass a parameter to a process already running? i need fsck to start answering yes to everything after it's already run |
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| 12:58.07 | nan8 | AussieGuy: but you only did modify config files (/etc/...)? |
| 12:58.45 | phrozen77 | how would one find out the configure options used for a certain package? ./debian/rules or is there an other way? |
| 12:58.46 | AussieGuy | not just /etc....also the config files for the bittorrent tracker/seedbox which is in their web folders |
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| 12:58.54 | AussieGuy | also ive set up various files into cron.d |
| 12:59.00 | AussieGuy | so they run cron jobd |
| 12:59.02 | AussieGuy | *jobs |
| 12:59.22 | AussieGuy | that would probably come under /etc though |
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| 13:00.19 | renton_ | hello |
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| 13:01.31 | ukl | nan8: I already tried CLAGS_APPEND and CFLAGS+=".." in debian/rules, no luck |
| 13:01.41 | nan8 | AussieGuy: a method similar to your rsync idea is to boot some temporaray system and copy a complete image (f.e. via nc) |
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| 13:02.05 | nan8 | ukl: which package is that? |
| 13:02.18 | AussieGuy | would that be doable, over ssh? im in australia but the server will be in canada |
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| 13:02.54 | nan8 | AussieGuy: depending on the size of your image that might take a while? |
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| 13:03.18 | AussieGuy | should take to long....theyve got pretty fast connections |
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| 13:03.43 | ukl | nan8: packetforth (http://zwizwa.be/darcs/packetforth/), nothing part of the repos |
| 13:04.11 | nan8 | ukl: could you paste the debian/rules somewhere? |
| 13:04.22 | AussieGuy | what, by the way, is nc? netcat? |
| 13:04.28 | nan8 | AussieGuy: yes |
| 13:05.12 | nan8 | AussieGuy: you can also use some other way socat, ftp ... whatever - it is just i used nc to do that |
| 13:05.18 | ukl | nan8: here it is: http://zwizwa.be/darcs/packetforth/debian/rules |
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| 13:06.07 | AussieGuy | so id get a temporary system running, then say......scp (ssh transfer) everything over from / to / |
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| 13:07.08 | nan8 | ukl: don't see any CFLAGS being set in there? |
| 13:07.27 | ukl | nan8: sorry, that's the original one. |
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| 13:07.54 | ukl | I just added CFLAGS_APPEND="-fPIC" in the second line |
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| 13:08.11 | nan8 | AussieGuy: no my suggestion was to copy the block device contents |
| 13:08.57 | nan8 | AussieGuy: assuming you first made a snapshot/image of your source system |
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| 13:09.01 | ukl | the build reports dpkg-buildpackage setting CFLAGS to default values: "-g -O2" |
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| 13:10.46 | cnerone | I just installed etch (amd64) in my pc |
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| 13:10.58 | cnerone | I'm not able to use some services |
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| 13:11.10 | cnerone | amule assign "low id", like in firewalled cases |
| 13:11.22 | cnerone | I'm not able to connect to clamav-daemon |
| 13:11.42 | nan8 | ukl: and if you do export CFLAGS_APPEND="-fPIC" and then run dpkg-buildpackage? |
| 13:11.50 | nan8 | ukl: see also man dpkg-buildpackage |
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| 13:13.24 | ukl | nan8, trying export now...hmm... nah, still fails |
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| 13:14.25 | nan8 | ukl: can you paste the output? |
| 13:14.42 | ukl | nan8: http://pastie.org/363836 |
| 13:14.50 | ukl | thanks for your helping hand, btw |
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| 13:15.50 | nan8 | ukl: ah thats not what i meant |
| 13:16.04 | nan8 | ukl: just set CFLAGS_APPEND in your shell (using export) |
| 13:16.10 | nan8 | ukl: then run dpkg-buildpackage |
| 13:16.16 | ukl | oh, ok |
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| 13:16.58 | ukl | still same failure... hmm. |
| 13:17.02 | nan8 | ukl: according to the man page - dpkg-buildpackage should do the right thing then |
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| 13:19.06 | nan8 | ukl: it seems the man page is wrong |
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| 13:19.39 | nan8 | nan8: but CFLAGS are used |
| 13:19.53 | Zharf | nice job talking to yourself |
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| 13:20.01 | Zharf | I do that sometimes too <.< |
| 13:20.23 | ukl | hmm I just found another problem here |
| 13:20.38 | nan8 | ukl: export CFLAGS="-g O2 -fpic" should work then |
| 13:20.54 | nan8 | ukl: ~s/O2/-O2/ |
| 13:21.16 | ukl | I just recognized I can write whatever I want to into my debian/rules it doesnt affect the build process. there's something wrong... |
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| 13:22.49 | ukl | ok, the build process recognized the altered CFLAGS |
| 13:23.24 | ukl | ...and fails. |
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| 13:24.57 | ukl | ok whatever. thanks for your help, I'll return to that problem later. have a nice day. |
| 13:25.10 | nan8 | hmm |
| 13:25.49 | nan8 | just recognized CFLAGS_APPEND in fact works as expected ... |
| 13:26.52 | nan8 | ah no CPPFLAGS_APPEND ... but well |
| 13:26.54 | Daviey | Hi, Is there a debian unstable netinst cd? I can't find it :( |
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| 13:27.25 | SQlvpapir | just grab the weekly lenny build and change sources after that |
| 13:27.48 | SQlvpapir | you only have to get like 60mb for the minimal install |
| 13:27.52 | abrotman | if you have to ask, you shouldn't |
| 13:27.52 | Daviey | SQlvpapir: Ah, i see. so upgrade from testing |
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| 13:30.24 | cnerone | somebody uses AMD64 arch debian system? |
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| 13:31.44 | nan8 | cnerone: yes, many |
| 13:31.57 | cnerone | ok, you too? |
| 13:32.01 | nan8 | cnerone: yes |
| 13:32.04 | tombs | a little stupid question....whats the full path to .Trash file ? |
| 13:32.06 | hoxu | sheesh |
| 13:32.12 | eptalon | heyas; running debian-sid/unstable; have / and /boot on separate partitions (raid1); wanted to convert /boot from ext3 ot xfs (since all other fses I use are xfs). >Thing doesn't work, grub gives error 17. |
| 13:32.13 | hoxu | !tell cnerone about polls |
| 13:32.32 | cnerone | nan8, a question to you |
| 13:32.41 | cnerone | I just installed etch |
| 13:32.44 | cnerone | amd64 one |
| 13:32.46 | eptalon | tombs: usually ~/Desktop/.Trash |
| 13:32.59 | cnerone | I have some trouble in it |
| 13:33.10 | tombs | eptalon: yes...but I don't find it there :( |
| 13:33.35 | cnerone | I had i386 sarge, up to 15 days ago |
| 13:33.39 | hoxu | cnerone, are you going to get to asking the question soon? |
| 13:33.40 | cnerone | no |
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| 13:34.25 | cnerone | I had sarge up to 1 year ago |
| 13:34.37 | cnerone | I updated it to etch 1 year ago |
| 13:34.41 | cnerone | (i386) |
| 13:34.58 | cnerone | then... my harddisk was broken |
| 13:35.12 | hoxu | !sicco |
| 13:35.12 | dpkg | Please ask sicco questions, questions that are Specific, Informative, Concise, Complete, and On-topic. Ask me about <research> and <cooperation in asking for help>. |
| 13:35.13 | cnerone | so I install a new hd and I decided install amd64 |
| 13:35.28 | cnerone | hoxu, I haven't understood your question |
| 13:35.41 | cnerone | nan8, but I have some trouble |
| 13:36.09 | cnerone | nan8, I'm not able to connect to clamav deamon |
| 13:36.41 | cnerone | amule tell me a low-ID (it supposes I'm behind a firewall) |
| 13:36.53 | abrotman | cnerone: lay off the enter key |
| 13:36.54 | cnerone | nan8, ho to solve it? |
| 13:37.11 | cnerone | abrotman, ok, sorry |
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| 13:38.17 | cnerone | I suppose AMD64 install tools installed some particular setting locking several function |
| 13:38.52 | cnerone | nan8, no idea about? |
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| 13:39.28 | nan8 | cnerone: no, sorry |
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| 13:40.33 | cnerone | have somepeople similar problems? |
| 13:40.46 | cnerone | have... or had (better) |
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| 13:41.41 | tombs | eptalon: found it! ~/.local/share/Trash/files |
| 13:41.43 | tombs | weird |
| 13:41.45 | hoxu | cnerone, yes, we see a lot of people who have difficulty phrasing specific, informative, concise, complete and on-topic questions |
| 13:42.23 | cnerone | hoxu, you are very nice |
| 13:42.26 | cnerone | so... |
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| 13:42.44 | abrotman | cnerone: if you prefer, there are support channels in italian |
| 13:42.47 | rage | This may sound strange, but what would be the most straight forward way to build a Debian install that does nothing but boot and play a movie? No other functions, no window managers, utils, ect |
| 13:43.16 | abrotman | rage: you can just start an applicatoin in X without using a WM |
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| 13:43.35 | zash_ | rage: like mplayer -fs somemovie |
| 13:43.36 | cnerone | "telnet localhost 3310" say me "connection refused", but clamav deamon is running... any sugg? |
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| 13:43.46 | rage | abrotman: Mmm true |
| 13:44.02 | nan8 | cnerone: netstat -tpnl ? |
| 13:44.03 | hoxu | cnerone, what does "netstat -nlpt |grep 3310" say? |
| 13:44.14 | rage | Then I could take to the rest of the system with an axe, destroy or the tty terms |
| 13:44.22 | abrotman | cnerone: do not msg people without permission |
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| 13:45.06 | jarick | rage: I believe that ffmpeg can also output directly to the kernel framebuffer. |
| 13:45.16 | rage | ooo that would be nice |
| 13:45.18 | rage | No X :-) |
| 13:45.18 | jarick | I think the syntax is -vo fbdev |
| 13:45.37 | jarick | rage: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/man/en/mplayer.1.html#VIDEO OUTPUT DRIVERS (MPLAYER ONLY) |
| 13:45.37 | rage | ffmpeg? I'll check it out, many thanks :-) |
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| 13:45.53 | kaluva | What exactly is "stable proposed updates"? Is it a waiting queue for fixes to stable? |
| 13:45.53 | rage | Oh mplayer can do it as well? so many options :-) |
| 13:45.55 | rage | Thanks |
| 13:45.57 | cnerone | abrotman, oh... sorry. I was asking for further info about italian support channel |
| 13:46.06 | abrotman | !it |
| 13:46.06 | dpkg | Ciao, Prego utilizzi #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in Italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help. |
| 13:46.20 | cnerone | nan8, hoxu no 3310 port opened |
| 13:46.20 | jarick | rage: Oh, right. mplayer, not ffmpeg. |
| 13:46.32 | hoxu | cnerone, show us the line |
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| 13:46.54 | nan8 | cnerone: lsof -p $(pidof clamavd) [or similar if the daemon has another name] |
| 13:47.07 | rage | Thats excellent, I can just to a netinstall and mplayer hopefully :-) nothing else, many thanks jarick |
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| 13:47.19 | cnerone | wait a moment, I'll connect by the other PC like cnerone2 |
| 13:47.31 | zepolen | is there a way to make cp slower so it doesnt use full disk io and bring the server to its knees? |
| 13:47.40 | abrotman | renice it perhaps |
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| 13:47.47 | jarick | rage: That's assuming you get a framebuffer device, alternatively, look at -vo svga |
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| 13:48.25 | peppe | zepolen: perhaps ionice |
| 13:48.25 | C_Nerone | hoxu, nan8: can you repat yor last msg? |
| 13:48.34 | hoxu | C_Nerone, netstat -nlpt |grep 3310 |
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| 13:48.54 | zepolen | thanks abrotman, peppe |
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| 13:49.03 | peppe | zepolen: i.e. ionice -c3 cp ... |
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| 13:51.16 | C_Nerone | hoxu, no output |
| 13:51.32 | peppe | huh, who did write the !it dpkg message? sounds it was translated by babelfish :P |
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| 13:52.39 | hoxu | peppe, you can provide a better one |
| 13:52.42 | hoxu | C_Nerone, then it's not listening |
| 13:52.47 | peppe | hoxu: how? |
| 13:52.51 | mueddib | hello |
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| 13:53.12 | hoxu | peppe, like saying your suggestion aloud :p |
| 13:53.39 | C_Nerone | hoxu, I supposed it; but... clamav is running... so? what about? |
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| 13:54.06 | peppe | hoxu: oh, ok, s/Prego utilizzi/vai su/ :) |
| 13:54.29 | hoxu | C_Nerone, try the "lsof -p $(pidof clamavd)" command given by nan8 |
| 13:54.52 | hoxu | peppe, "Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in Italiano" ? |
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| 13:55.29 | hoxu | at least google is happy |
| 13:55.38 | peppe | hoxu: yes, it is much much better. also, "italiano" is in lowercase in Italian |
| 13:55.48 | jarick | hoxu: My hovercraft is full of eels. |
| 13:55.53 | peppe | (that is very pedantic...) |
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| 13:56.12 | hoxu | !it |
| 13:56.12 | dpkg | Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help. |
| 13:56.23 | hoxu | peppe, thanks for the corrections |
| 13:56.31 | peppe | hoxu: thank you for patching :) |
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| 13:58.17 | C_Nerone | hoxu, no TCP node |
| 13:58.50 | hoxu | C_Nerone, are you sure it's supposed to listen for tcp? Did you try restarting it? |
| 13:59.10 | C_Nerone | hoxu, I restarted it several times |
| 13:59.11 | hoxu | C_Nerone, did you check logs (if any)? You can use "ls -rt /var/log/" to see which ones were last written into |
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| 14:00.34 | C_Nerone | hoxu, clamav log says it's running |
| 14:01.03 | hoxu | if there are no errors, are you sure it's supposed to listen on that tcp port? |
| 14:01.08 | hoxu | I'm afraid I don't know anything about clamav |
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| 14:01.47 | C_Nerone | I used it in previous debian installation (i386 etch) |
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| 14:03.56 | C_Nerone | hoxu, but you know amule? Is it right? |
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| 14:04.43 | hoxu | what about amule? |
| 14:05.22 | C_Nerone | amule say me "low id" like I'm behind a firewall |
| 14:05.42 | C_Nerone | but my modem/router is the same |
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| 14:06.12 | hoxu | C_Nerone, did you check that you have a public IP? |
| 14:06.16 | hoxu | C_Nerone, ifconfig |
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| 14:06.33 | abrotman | are you fixing amule or clamav ? |
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| 14:07.41 | hoxu | both I think |
| 14:07.42 | C_Nerone | abrotman, I've problem using clamav and amule too. I suppose they are similar problem and I suppose I can solve they all, solving one of them |
| 14:07.54 | abrotman | fix one at a time |
| 14:08.26 | C_Nerone | abrotman, ok... I'm not able to fix clamav one. So I'm trying to solve amule one |
| 14:09.01 | C_Nerone | hoxu, what I have to look for in ifconfig output? |
| 14:09.21 | hoxu | C_Nerone, inet addr |
| 14:09.39 | C_Nerone | eth1 inet: 10.0.0.13 |
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| 14:10.21 | C_Nerone | lo inet: 127.0.0.1 |
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| 14:10.38 | hoxu | C_Nerone, that's not a public IP |
| 14:11.13 | hoxu | C_Nerone, either your router setup or your ISP has changed something |
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| 14:15.35 | eptalon | heyas |
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| 14:15.51 | eptalon | Can grub boot off ext4? |
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| 14:17.09 | abrotman | should be able to |
| 14:17.26 | jamon | abrotman: really? i thought only a dev branch of grub2 could |
| 14:17.27 | eptalon | abrotman: the version that currently ships in sid? |
| 14:17.50 | abrotman | jamon: you can't address ext4 as ext2 like you could with ext3 ? |
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| 14:17.59 | eptalon | abrotman: alos, there seem to be issues mounting an xfs in current sid grub. |
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| 14:18.18 | abrotman | points at the BTS |
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| 14:18.38 | eptalon | abrotman: you can address it as ext3, as lonf as you don't use extents. |
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| 14:18.50 | jamon | ah here, http://kernelnewbies.org/Ext4 section 3 |
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| 14:19.01 | theholyduck | eptalon, well the trick is |
| 14:19.07 | theholyduck | NEVER have a xfs boot or root |
| 14:19.14 | theholyduck | and you'll be fine |
| 14:19.17 | theholyduck | thats how i look at it .P |
| 14:19.33 | eptalon | theholyduck: I currently have ext3 /boot, all the other fses are xfs. |
| 14:19.34 | vsayikiran | is there any way to add two numbers represented in degree format in gcalc |
| 14:19.57 | abrotman | eptalon: okay, so it does work ? |
| 14:20.16 | eptalon | abrotman: /boot as ext3 worksa fine.. |
| 14:20.26 | theholyduck | abrotman, xfs as /boot doesnt work |
| 14:20.28 | eptalon | abrotman: rest xfs also works fine. |
| 14:20.30 | theholyduck | rather. its prone to crashing |
| 14:20.36 | abrotman | theholyduck: i don't care about boot on xfs |
| 14:20.42 | eptalon | abrotman: no write-barriers, as I use LVM.. |
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| 14:20.44 | abrotman | eptalon: i meant ext4 |
| 14:20.47 | theholyduck | abrotman, ahh :P |
| 14:20.56 | peppe | xfs works under grub |
| 14:20.56 | theholyduck | abrotman, why not just keep a ext3 boot? |
| 14:21.02 | theholyduck | and ext4 everything else? |
| 14:21.02 | eptalon | abrotman: havent tried yet, just installed 2.6.28 |
| 14:21.03 | abrotman | don't ask me .. ask eptalon |
| 14:21.18 | abrotman | shouldn't everyone be on grub2 by now anyways ? |
| 14:21.27 | eptalon | theholyduck: ext4 is probably< not as stable as xfs |
| 14:21.36 | theholyduck | eptalon, well true |
| 14:21.38 | theholyduck | i wouldnt use it |
| 14:21.45 | peppe | I mean, it works as root filesystem, as boot filesystem. it works. point. |
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| 14:22.34 | eptalon | peppe: and I do have some important data on some of them partitions. |
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| 14:23.23 | chris081 | eptalon : you know how to partition an hd drive 6 |
| 14:23.24 | chris081 | ? |
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| 14:23.38 | chris081 | an tell how ? |
| 14:23.40 | eptalon | chris081: yep. |
| 14:24.01 | peppe | eptalon: backups are always important :) |
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| 14:24.06 | chris081 | can tell which bin i should use ? |
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| 14:24.19 | eptalon | chris081: there are programs like cfdisk, parted, gparted that can do that for you. |
| 14:24.34 | chris081 | ok, thanks. |
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| 14:25.15 | eptalon | fdisk is there too. |
| 14:25.37 | chris081 | i'm gonna check out those later. thanks you |
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| 14:26.58 | nan8 | shouldn't "aptitude search '~Gprotocol::jabber'" list all packages tagged with protocol::jabber? |
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| 14:28.28 | abrotman | nan8: debtags search protocol::jabber |
| 14:28.49 | chris081 | to everyone: why, with some files, if i do ls -l in a shell, somethimes the filename is written like filename.ext* ?? |
| 14:29.01 | nan8 | abrotman: oh i am missing debtags |
| 14:29.08 | abrotman | missing? |
| 14:29.23 | nan8 | abrotman: debtags is not installed |
| 14:29.27 | abrotman | oh |
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| 14:30.16 | s0ttle | chris081: the filename will have whatever extension you or a third party gives it |
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| 14:30.20 | eptalon | chris081: thats specifies type. |
| 14:30.27 | nan8 | abrotman: aptitude install debtags ... and now aptitude search ~G works as expected - hmm maybe there should be some warning / error message? |
| 14:30.48 | abrotman | nan8: bugs.debian.org/aptitude |
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| 14:31.33 | chris081 | eptalon: i mean, for example, if i have cv.txt, then ls -l will produce the output cv.txt* |
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| 14:32.13 | chris081 | but only for cv.txt, if i have thing.to.buy.txt, the * won'T appears |
| 14:32.15 | fangfufu | hello? |
| 14:32.18 | fangfufu | i can't install mplayer |
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| 14:32.25 | fangfufu | it says the package is broken |
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| 14:32.47 | fangfufu | The following packages have unmet dependencies. |
| 14:32.47 | fangfufu | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:32.58 | lostson | fangfufu: what version of debian ? |
| 14:33.09 | fangfufu | lenny |
| 14:33.28 | lostson | do you have non-free and contrib in your sources ? |
| 14:33.47 | fangfufu | deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free |
| 14:33.48 | fangfufu | deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free |
| 14:33.48 | fangfufu | deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib non-free |
| 14:33.48 | fangfufu | deb-src http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib non-free |
| 14:33.48 | fangfufu | deb http://debian-multimedia.fx-services.com/ stable main |
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| 14:33.51 | s0ttle | chris081: chris081 oh that's cause you have the file set to executable |
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| 14:34.10 | fangfufu | i think so |
| 14:34.14 | fangfufu | sorry how do i paste stuff? |
| 14:34.31 | chris081 | ok. thanks. i'm gonna check out how to remove that executable state on google later. /nick chris081 |
| 14:34.33 | s0ttle | chris081: chmod 644 cv.txt |
| 14:34.37 | lostson | use #flood or http://debian.pastebin.com/ |
| 14:34.41 | fangfufu | oh right |
| 14:34.54 | s0ttle | chris081: or chmod a-x cv.txt |
| 14:35.12 | s0ttle | chris081: http://catcode.com/teachmod/ |
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| 14:35.45 | fangfufu | i think i do have non-free and contrib |
| 14:35.51 | nan8 | abrotman: couldn't find a corresponding bug - do you suggest to report it as bug? |
| 14:35.55 | chris081 | thanks. but wait, i'm gonna go and get a grapefruit juice. thanks |
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| 14:36.15 | lejacques | Hi everyone |
| 14:36.27 | lostson | fangfufu: yeah it looks like you do |
| 14:36.46 | lejacques | Im trying to ssh to my computer, which I can do successfully locally, but Im not quite sure how to do it through the router |
| 14:36.55 | lejacques | anyone willing to lend a hand? |
| 14:37.02 | s0ttle | lejacques: you probably need to enable port forwarding |
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| 14:37.22 | fangfufu | what shall i do? |
| 14:37.36 | lejacques | s0ttle, so, I would forward my local address out? |
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| 14:38.07 | renton_ | in which package is scp? |
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| 14:38.18 | lostson | fangfufu: are you installing mplayer from the multimedia repo ? |
| 14:38.23 | eptalon | !tell lejacques about ask |
| 14:38.31 | fangfufu | erm i am not sure |
| 14:38.42 | lostson | fangfufu: i have mplayer installed but i did not pull it from the multimedia repo |
| 14:38.47 | fangfufu | i did put the multimedia repo in the source list. |
| 14:38.49 | s0ttle | lejacques: your router should have a setting to forward port 22 |
| 14:38.56 | renton_ | !search scp |
| 14:39.01 | s0ttle | lejacques: do you know how to connect to the router to configure it's settings? |
| 14:39.02 | fangfufu | because i needed to use lame from the multimedia repo |
| 14:39.15 | lostson | fangfufu: comment out the debian-multimedia line in your sources list then apt-get update apt-get install mplayer |
| 14:39.22 | fangfufu | i see |
| 14:39.35 | fangfufu | but i got lame installed, which is from multimedia repo |
| 14:40.17 | lostson | yeah thats fine this wont remove it or anything i think its pulling mplayer from the multimedia repo and that is where its getting the broken package results |
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| 14:41.17 | fangfufu | thanks |
| 14:41.22 | theholyduck | lostson, why would you? |
| 14:41.45 | theholyduck | the base debian builds of mplayer and ffmpeg is quite frankly shitty |
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| 14:42.08 | fangfufu | hmm |
| 14:43.10 | chris081 | just to be sure, the character named hyphen is '-' ? |
| 14:43.55 | fangfufu | ok it is downloading |
| 14:44.42 | Eulex | chris081, yes. |
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| 14:46.06 | eptalon | chris081: yep |
| 14:47.11 | chris081 | thanks. i'm not an english. this is sometimes i'm asking such questions like the last one i asked for. |
| 14:47.40 | Eulex | you got answers from two people who aren't native english either :) |
| 14:47.47 | nan8 | tags are not set in debian/control? |
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| 14:47.56 | chris081 | ; ) |
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| 14:52.05 | nan8 | where to look for up to date information about the tags? (i want to add a tag to a package) |
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| 14:52.52 | chris081 | is there a way to do a chmod recursive. i mean, if chmod u +rwx / . will the chmod applies on the / and it's content or if it will appli only to the / itself ? |
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| 14:53.57 | hoxu | chris081, yes, you can hose your system very easily with -R |
| 14:54.02 | cahoot_ | chris081: -R (with caution) |
| 14:54.06 | eptalon | chris081: -R (or -r); dependingo n what you want find .. -exec might be the better option. |
| 14:54.08 | themill | nan8: http://debtags.alioth.debian.org/todo.html |
| 14:54.16 | peppe | chris081: you can read "man chmod" and look for "recursive" |
| 14:54.19 | hoxu | chris081, don't run recursive from root or any near-root standard directory |
| 14:54.45 | peppe | there's also --preserve-root if you are scared :) |
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| 14:55.19 | eptalon | chris081: and porbably --recursive for the typing-savy |
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| 14:55.28 | nan8 | themill: it seems the web interface needs javascript? |
| 14:55.59 | fangfufu | thanks everyone |
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| 14:56.01 | fangfufu | bye |
| 14:56.02 | themill | nan8: probably. it's very web2 |
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| 14:56.26 | nvz | I have an onboard intel snd card a PCI emu10k1, I am trying to use the emu10k1, I blacklisted the intel module in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local but it still loads.. how is the right way to select perminantly the emu10k 1 as the default or only sound card? |
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| 14:57.29 | nvz | I figure I could probably disable the onboard one in the bios but I can't remember a case where linux ever cared about the BIOS anyhow |
| 14:57.35 | nvz | it would probably just renable it |
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| 14:58.49 | peppe | nvz: probably the simplest way is to disable the onboard card in your bios settings |
| 14:58.51 | abrotman | nan8: let me look |
| 14:59.16 | Eulex | nvz, alsa modules aren't in initramfs right? |
| 14:59.17 | nvz | I can give that a try but I'm not certain it is even an option or that linux won't just turn it back on |
| 14:59.17 | cahoot_ | nvz: blacklisting the intel's module doesn't work? |
| 14:59.17 | peppe | nvz: linux _cares_ about the bios |
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| 14:59.30 | nvz | its a stock kernel so I dont know |
| 14:59.40 | abrotman | nan8: see .. aptitude already suggests debtags |
| 14:59.56 | eptalon | no working kernel-headers for 2.6.28 from buildserver? |
| 14:59.57 | nvz | linux really doesnt.. try disabling your IDE controller.. linux will reenable it |
| 14:59.58 | Eulex | !blacklist-initramfs |
| 14:59.59 | dpkg | from memory, blacklist-initramfs is If your kernel uses an initramfs image (most recent ones do), you need to run 'dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)' in order to refresh its copy of blacklist table. Otherwise, early bootup won't follow your blacklist requests in e.g. /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local |
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| 15:00.04 | peppe | nvz: which is the intel module? |
| 15:00.06 | rouslan_ | I have a problem installing grub onto my second hd (I recently installed Debian with software RAID-1): "grub-install /dev/hda", "grub", "device (hd0) /dev/hdc", "root (hd0,0)", "setup (hd0)" then I receive: "Checking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists... no, "Checking if "/grub/stage1" exists... no", "Error 15: File not found" |
| 15:00.24 | nvz | snd_intel_8x0 or something |
| 15:00.31 | peppe | nvz: that's because the bios is bugged and assumes that the OS is windows |
| 15:00.38 | jamon | rouslan_: hd0,0 is your first drive |
| 15:00.57 | rouslan_ | jamon: oops, I forgot, thanks |
| 15:01.06 | jamon | np ;) |
| 15:01.14 | peppe | nvz: is it that one or snd_hda_intel ? |
| 15:01.17 | nvz | I'll try the dpkg reconfigure thing |
| 15:01.25 | nvz | its def not HDA.. this machine predates HDA |
| 15:01.34 | nvz | its an AthlonXP system |
| 15:02.19 | johndoevodka | how can i check filesystem types and disk usage? |
| 15:02.21 | peppe | nvz: well, run lsmod and see which modules are loaded |
| 15:02.25 | nan8 | abrotman: yes suggests - and there was: #472678 aptitude: gives unwanted warning if debtags is not installed |
| 15:02.27 | nvz | johndoevodka: df -Th |
| 15:02.34 | nvz | johndoevodka: or use gnome-system-monitor |
| 15:02.35 | johndoevodka | nvz: thanks |
| 15:02.44 | johndoevodka | just what i needed |
| 15:02.47 | nan8 | abrotman: => maybe there is not much point in me suggesting to issue a warning ;-) |
| 15:02.56 | nvz | peppe: I already know,. I just dont know if its - or _ or whatnot |
| 15:03.01 | nvz | its intel 8x0 |
| 15:03.06 | nvz | whatever the hell that one is called |
| 15:03.23 | peppe | nvz: so you blacklisted it and refreshed the initramfs? |
| 15:03.28 | Eulex | you could always blacklist both :) |
| 15:03.30 | rouslan_ | jamon: I still receive the error |
| 15:03.31 | nvz | the damn kernel devs change the names so often I don't bother remembering |
| 15:03.39 | nvz | na, I blacklisted the right one already |
| 15:03.40 | simonrvn | modprobe -l | grep 'snd*intel' |
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| 15:03.43 | nvz | just didn't take apparently |
| 15:03.55 | nvz | I gotta try the dpkg reconfigure trick |
| 15:04.06 | simonrvn | nvz: ^^^ |
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| 15:04.31 | peppe | it isn't a trick, it is for creating new initramfses for your kernels |
| 15:04.37 | simonrvn | might want a ^snd.... instead |
| 15:04.40 | nvz | I figured there was some alsa way of doing this that would be better |
| 15:04.48 | nvz | of choosing the default card perminantly |
| 15:05.18 | nvz | I mean sure I can go into the kitche and find something to pry the chipset of the mobo.. but I was trying to learn something here.. heh |
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| 15:05.32 | nvz | in this case the other simply not working would be acceptable.. |
| 15:05.37 | peppe | nvz: like /etc/asound.conf ? |
| 15:05.41 | nvz | but in other cases people may actually want two sound cards |
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| 15:05.55 | abrotman | nan8: you could ask that it throw the warning if the search gets a ~G ? |
| 15:06.11 | nvz | the only reason this box has two is cause someone threw a SB Live! with a Live Drive in it.. |
| 15:06.42 | rouslan_ | I am trying to install and configure GRUB to the second hd (/dev/hdc) so that the system could boot without /dev/hda (first hd). |
| 15:06.47 | nvz | too much sound card for what these people do with it. |
| 15:07.01 | nvz | I'm sure there is someone out there that would love to have this live drive |
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| 15:07.25 | nvz | I gave it to someone who uses 2 inch speakers to occationally listen to music |
| 15:07.27 | nvz | LOL |
| 15:07.39 | simonrvn | my drives are always live, wtf is that |
| 15:07.56 | rouslan_ | I first invoke "grub-install /dev/hda", then run grub, and invoke the following commands: "device (hd0) /dev/hdc", "root (hd0,0)", and finally "setup (hd0)" |
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| 15:08.10 | nvz | the live drive is a 5 & 1/4" drive bay that has RCA jacks 1/4" phono jacks, infrared, vl controls.. etc |
| 15:08.17 | nvz | it plugs into the sound blaster live |
| 15:08.32 | rouslan_ | However, I get: "Checking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists... no", "Checking if "/grub/stage1" exists... no", "Error 15: File not found" |
| 15:08.40 | nvz | its doing nothing but serving as a faceplate in this machine |
| 15:08.52 | nvz | cause these people have no use for it |
| 15:09.03 | C_Nerone | hoxu, I solved |
| 15:09.11 | simonrvn | rouslan_: tried grub-install yet? |
| 15:09.13 | jamon | rouslan_: second drive, hd1, first partition on it, hd1,0 |
| 15:09.23 | nvz | it actuall haas optical and midi ports too now that I look at it |
| 15:09.25 | C_Nerone | I restored setting from my previous hd |
| 15:09.27 | simonrvn | rouslan_: never mind that last comment |
| 15:09.38 | rouslan_ | jamon: I already tried that. |
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| 15:10.41 | rouslan_ | jamon: Should I change "device (hd0) /dev/hdc" too? |
| 15:10.45 | C_Nerone | hoxu, I set "manually" net data (my ip addres become static), so my router send data to me (I set my static IP) |
| 15:10.59 | C_Nerone | hoxu, thanks to you |
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| 15:11.03 | C_Nerone | bye |
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| 15:11.12 | simonrvn | nvz: i bet it's an sblive only thing, i.e., proprietary ;) |
| 15:11.15 | jamon | rouslan_: i've never bothered with device, just root (hdx,x) and setup (hdx) |
| 15:11.32 | jamon | rouslan_: you have tried grub-install though as simonrvn suggested right? |
| 15:11.43 | simonrvn | apparently he did |
| 15:11.51 | jamon | ah |
| 15:11.51 | rouslan_ | jamon: To /dev/hdc too? |
| 15:11.56 | simonrvn | 10:07 < rouslan_> I first invoke "grub-install /dev/hda" |
| 15:12.10 | nan8 | abrotman: i will take a look at the source - probably it is a bit difficult in the curses interface (cli interface should be simple) |
| 15:12.17 | nvz | simonrvn: I belive so. its the SB Live Drive IR, and there is a special port on the SB Live! for it |
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| 15:12.59 | nvz | simonrvn: really if I had a faceplate for this pc and someone that wanted or needed the Live! I'd just take it out and leave them with the onboard.. |
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| 15:13.15 | nvz | I just left it in here when I gave them the pc cause I didn't have a faceplate for it |
| 15:13.27 | nvz | usually I don't give away technology that isn't needed |
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| 15:13.52 | nan8 | abrotman: on the other hand this probably won't be fixed in lenny and i don't yet understand how this all should fit together in the future |
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| 15:14.07 | abrotman | nan8: i doubt it also |
| 15:14.08 | rouslan_ | jamon: So "root (hd1,0)" and "setup (hd1)"? |
| 15:14.33 | jamon | try that, if it doesn't work, try copying your current /boot to hd1 and try again |
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| 15:15.01 | rouslan_ | jamon: Same error |
| 15:15.13 | Dolda2000 | Does anyone know if the RPC portmapper from the standard portmap package supports v4 of the rpcbind protocol? |
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| 15:19.26 | rouslan_ | jamon: I figured it out....I forgot that the root partition would be /boot (since I have it as a separate partition). |
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| 15:21.59 | notassociated | i have 2 wireless cards, one of them is a prism2 hostap chipset based and am trying to set up my laptop as a wireless AP. i configured quicktables but the other laptops in my home can not associate to the laptop which is acting as a wireless AP |
| 15:24.11 | bolexxx | anyone could help me with old release 3.1, dvd image, it wont read the packages from dvd...cant install anything ( and i need old packages not new ones from the net) |
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| 15:26.15 | notassociated | on the laptop acting as an AP i have 1 wireless card connected to the internet and the other one (hostap chipset) has an internal static ip 192.168.2.1 |
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| 15:29.34 | paxcoder | please don't hate, I want to know, so I have to ask: |
| 15:29.34 | paxcoder | "Assume blobs comply with GPL unless proven otherwise" - that rules out anything that doesn't claim to be free software, right? |
| 15:29.35 | notassociated | since i am not running a dhcp server, i executed these commands on the client laptop: ifconfig 192.168.2.10 netmask 255.255.255.0 up; route add default gw 192.168.2.1; iwconfig wlan0 essid laptop-ap mode managed |
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| 15:30.06 | notassociated | but when i run iwconfig on the client i can clearly see that is not associated, so what gives? |
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| 15:38.33 | dutchfish | paxcoder, its not only about GPL, but firmware blobs will be out of the kernel belonging to userland nowadays with later kernels (thats how it should be) |
| 15:38.59 | paxcoder | dutchfish: doesn't matter where it runs |
| 15:39.10 | dutchfish | paxcoder, oh it does (sometimes) |
| 15:39.17 | paxcoder | how? |
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| 15:39.42 | dutchfish | paxcoder, imagine a firmware blob for iSCSII ... |
| 15:39.56 | paxcoder | o.O |
| 15:40.17 | paxcoder | ok, can you just answer the first question? |
| 15:40.24 | paxcoder | "Assume blobs comply with GPL unless proven otherwise" - that rules out anything that doesn't claim to be free software, right? |
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| 15:40.33 | dutchfish | paxcoder, maybe, i have overlooked it |
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| 15:41.02 | dutchfish | paxcoder, wrong, GPL demands clear statements that it actually does |
| 15:41.16 | themill | points towards #debian-offtopic |
| 15:41.19 | dutchfish | paxcoder, no room for asumptions in there |
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| 15:41.28 | dutchfish | themill, thx |
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| 15:42.03 | paxcoder | gets aggravated at themill (but maybe it's just paxcoder) |
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| 15:42.23 | mahesh | hello guys iam a newbie..... planning to install debian but need some guidance |
| 15:42.36 | theholyduck | do you really now? |
| 15:42.37 | theholyduck | :D |
| 15:42.40 | mahesh | i have used ubuntu, fedora and centos |
| 15:42.59 | mahesh | planning to install debian.... so give me your comments |
| 15:43.15 | theholyduck | mahesh, ubuntu is like debian with fail and suck added |
| 15:43.22 | theholyduck | and i dont like the .rpm based distros |
| 15:43.26 | theholyduck | so go for it |
| 15:44.02 | mahesh | i will be doing some system developments |
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| 15:44.19 | mahesh | is debian favourable |
| 15:44.47 | mahesh | i mean, i will be using it professionally |
| 15:45.01 | mahesh | will it be favourable |
| 15:46.37 | stoned | heh |
| 15:46.38 | x1250 | mahesh, how are we suppose to know what are your expectations? Plenty developers use debian, plenty developers use other distros. Is completely up to you, a matter of taste. |
| 15:46.46 | stoned | my rommates older brother name is mahesh |
| 15:46.51 | stoned | mahesh, namaste! |
| 15:47.03 | mahesh | stoned namaste ji |
| 15:47.15 | stoned | mahesh, hindo bolta hai? |
| 15:47.33 | stoned | mahesh, yaar #debian-chat main aa yaar |
| 15:47.45 | stoned | bhen chode idhar offtopic ki gaand mari hoiyi hai |
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| 15:48.12 | mahesh | stoned: lakin ji muji hindi thoda thoda hi malum |
| 15:48.43 | solars | hey, can anyone recommend a utility to handle multiple clipboards in X? like set them by script, and insert with keybinding? |
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| 15:49.13 | stew | solars: perhaps xclip or xsel? |
| 15:49.17 | theholyduck | mahesh, any distro can do pretty much anything up to a point. |
| 15:49.22 | stew | mahesh: stoned: english only in here please |
| 15:49.54 | solars | stew, do they handle multiple clipboards at the same time? |
| 15:50.22 | stoned | I have two clipboards, buffer, and actual clibboad in kde |
| 15:50.23 | stew | solars: there is only one clipboard, they handle that and both selections |
| 15:51.03 | solars | stew, ah, right, saw it in the xsel manpage |
| 15:51.14 | solars | stew, so 3 different buffers is the maximum? |
| 15:51.39 | stoned | so there is always only 1 clipboard? |
| 15:51.48 | stoned | which handles clip and buffer? |
| 15:51.51 | stew | solars: that is all that exists in X, its of course possible to simulate more like klipper or glipper do |
| 15:52.30 | solars | stew, I saw that .. but I think they only run in gnome/kde env |
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| 15:53.14 | solars | actually 3 buffers should be enough if that works |
| 15:53.19 | stew | solars: you can use them in other environments, though they want some kind of panel to live in, and I don't believe they are scriptable |
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| 15:53.53 | solars | ah, right |
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| 16:02.51 | nan8 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_selection: "The X Window System supports an arbitrary number of selections; every selection is identified by a string (more precisely, an atom). The most used selection is the PRIMARY selection." |
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| 16:04.37 | JordiGH | nan8: So? |
| 16:04.40 | JordiGH | !fact |
| 16:04.40 | dpkg | i heard fact is is eclipse is now also apt-get install eclipse |
| 16:05.37 | nan8 | JordiGH: before you entered, there was some question about a cli to a multi-buffer clipboard ... |
| 16:05.51 | JordiGH | Oh. |
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| 16:10.29 | simonrvn | hoxu: !factinfo fact |
| 16:10.32 | simonrvn | !factinfo fact |
| 16:10.32 | dpkg | fact -- last modified at Sat Feb 11 19:35:21 2006 by Eulex!n=alex@h31n1fls33o998.telia.com; it has been requested 10 times, last by asg, 2m 25s ago. |
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| 16:11.52 | amitz | what's the command line to force a monitor to sleep? |
| 16:12.19 | simonrvn | xset |
| 16:12.20 | x1250 | amitz, xset dpms force off |
| 16:12.30 | amitz | ah, thx |
| 16:12.51 | amitz | btw, I can wake it up by moving my mouse right? |
| 16:13.08 | rouslan_ | Does anyone here run a Debian firewall/router with a NIC for WAN and another one for LAN with IpTables? |
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| 16:13.31 | amitz | yes, I love you all :-D |
| 16:13.59 | simonrvn | rouslan_: ask the real question. |
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| 16:14.32 | rouslan_ | I am trying to set one up and need example pastebins of /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/sysconfig/iptables |
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| 16:16.18 | paxcoder | themill: unhelpful towards me as ever |
| 16:16.24 | simonrvn | /etc/sysconfig doesn't exist. stop reading redhat howtos |
| 16:16.38 | themill | paxcoder: not on-topic here, and I've answered your questions. |
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| 16:17.13 | paxcoder | themill: if "you're a troll", or "wth you're saying?" are answers, then yes |
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| 16:18.30 | aoeu | how can i install debian to a device from an already installed linux box? |
| 16:18.36 | themill | paxcoder: there's nothing more that I can add until you read and comprehend the text that was resolved. You keep quoting text that was not in the resolution but in the preamble to it. |
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| 16:18.47 | aoeu | like prepare a drive for use in another computer with debian |
| 16:19.05 | themill | paxcoder: and it's still not on-topic here. |
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| 16:19.13 | simonrvn | AND IS OFF-FUCKING-TOPIC |
| 16:19.30 | simonrvn | :) |
| 16:19.33 | paxcoder | themill: it was in "winner" |
| 16:19.47 | shl | i have started a i386 install in xen, with a 64 bit kernel. I expected this to fail but it works. how do I verify I am really running i386? |
| 16:20.04 | shl | is there some 64-bit app that I could run that will fail? |
| 16:20.13 | paxcoder | themill: you're as much off topic here now as I am. I actually joined your -offtopic just to have you "help" me |
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| 16:20.30 | paxcoder | wah whatever. as I said: helpful as ever. |
| 16:21.08 | simonrvn | boohoo |
| 16:21.10 | themill | It's a bit hard for me to talk to you in #d-ot when you parted. |
| 16:21.41 | themill | gives up and stops feeding the troll |
| 16:21.58 | simonrvn | plonkage might be an idea |
| 16:22.20 | simonrvn | aoeu: debootstrap |
| 16:23.49 | aoeu | simonrvn, will that do the mbr correctly too? i'm installing to a cf card that's on /dev/hdc, and it'll be on /dev/hda when its used |
| 16:24.23 | simonrvn | no, you'll have to install grub to it, or whatever you want as bootloader |
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| 16:25.18 | simonrvn | rouslan_: /msg dpkg interfaces; /msg dpkg man interfaces |
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| 16:28.13 | Eulex | simonrvn, that must've been a mistake |
| 16:28.28 | simonrvn | nope |
| 16:28.41 | Eulex | I mean !fact |
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| 16:30.02 | simonrvn | Eulex: yes it was :). the one prefixed with hoxu anyway. |
| 16:30.03 | Eulex | I erased that factoid. interesting that it survived almost 3 years :) |
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| 16:30.49 | amitz | how to make dual seat configuration using single card with dual connector on debian lenny? There is a wiki for ubuntu 8.04 but it fails on lenny. The wiki for lenny is for dual seat configuration using two cards. |
| 16:31.14 | JordiGH | !trivia |
| 16:31.15 | JordiGH | !fac |
| 16:31.17 | JordiGH | !fact |
| 16:31.23 | simonrvn | dunno why it has eclipse in there |
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| 16:32.03 | JordiGH | simonrvn: Maybe someone accidentally was talking to dpkg believing it to be human? |
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| 16:33.02 | simonrvn | wouldn't be the first time. with the 2 is in there, that's probably the case. |
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| 16:38.30 | amitz | how to check whether I'm using all the core in my processor? |
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| 16:38.44 | abrotman | amitz: cat /proc/cpuinfo .. count them |
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| 16:40.05 | theholyduck | amitz, or do you mean. right now? |
| 16:40.09 | amitz | abrotman: thx, the existence in cpuinfo guarantee that each counted will be used, right? |
| 16:40.21 | theholyduck | amitz, well.. |
| 16:40.23 | theholyduck | depends |
| 16:40.25 | abrotman | amitz: FSVO used .. yes |
| 16:40.42 | theholyduck | amitz, it doesnt guarantee all of them will be used for encoding or what not |
| 16:40.42 | amitz | theholyduck: yeah, right now. I heard some kernel/setting won't use all core. |
| 16:40.43 | theholyduck | when encoding |
| 16:40.47 | abrotman | amitz: if you use top and hit uhm .. 'a' .. i think it will show each one |
| 16:40.55 | abrotman | amitz: uname -a .. what does it say ? |
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| 16:41.11 | theholyduck | abrotman, you'd be hard pressed to find a NON smp kernel |
| 16:41.14 | theholyduck | these days |
| 16:41.14 | abrotman | amitz: it very much depends what you're doing as to the use of each one |
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| 16:41.23 | abrotman | theholyduck: easy .. linux-image-2.6-486 |
| 16:41.31 | amitz | Linux ruma 2.6.26-1-686 #1 SMP Sat Jan 10 18:29:31 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 16:41.32 | theholyduck | abrotman, who still uses that though? |
| 16:41.38 | theholyduck | amitz, you got all your cores then |
| 16:41.40 | abrotman | theholyduck: i have machines that use it |
| 16:41.44 | amitz | ah, thanks |
| 16:41.56 | theholyduck | amitz, but its up to what you're DOING in terms of they all being used |
| 16:41.59 | abrotman | theholyduck: and some people during install don'tknow any better and are left with it |
| 16:42.11 | amitz | theholyduck: I see, I understand what you mean. |
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| 16:43.15 | theholyduck | amitz, if you hit 1 while in top |
| 16:43.20 | theholyduck | you get to see what each core is doing |
| 16:43.21 | theholyduck | rather |
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| 16:43.25 | theholyduck | how much use each core has |
| 16:43.52 | abrotman | or use atop or i think htop |
| 16:43.55 | fmr | génial... |
| 16:44.10 | fmr | sous lenny apparement il ne reconnait pas mon portable nokia pour transferet les données |
| 16:44.19 | fmr | sous opensuse ça marchait bien pourtant |
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| 16:44.20 | abrotman | !fr |
| 16:44.20 | dpkg | Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr sur irc.oftc.net. French users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on irc.oftc.net. |
| 16:44.35 | fmr | oups bad chan |
| 16:45.02 | theholyduck | i wonder if there is a #debian-no or something :P |
| 16:45.08 | theholyduck | not that id WANT debian help in norwegian |
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| 16:45.44 | abrotman | theholyduck: there was, might still be |
| 16:45.49 | stoned | $>sudo head -n 12 /etc/hosts.backup > /etc/hosts |
| 16:45.50 | stoned | bash: /etc/hosts: Permission denied |
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| 16:45.55 | stoned | whats wrong with this? |
| 16:46.00 | amitz | theholyduck: ah, yeah, you're right |
| 16:46.07 | abrotman | stoned: the sudo doesn't follow the redirect |
| 16:46.19 | stoned | thats what I was figuring |
| 16:46.22 | theholyduck | there is some flag you can pass to sudo |
| 16:46.22 | stoned | any workaround? |
| 16:46.26 | theholyduck | to make it do it in a REAL shell |
| 16:46.32 | theholyduck | i forgot what it is though |
| 16:46.36 | abrotman | quote it? |
| 16:46.37 | theholyduck | look at the manpage |
| 16:46.44 | streuner | judd, versions libc6 |
| 16:46.45 | judd | streuner: libc6 -- etch: 2.3.6.ds1-13etch7 lenny: 2.7-18 sid: 2.7-18 experimental: 2.9-0exp1 |
| 16:46.52 | stoned | quote which part? |
| 16:46.54 | theholyduck | or su -c "command" would work aswell :P |
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| 16:47.45 | abrotman | stoned: i'd guess the whole thing |
| 16:47.56 | abrotman | imagines the man page covers this |
| 16:47.56 | stoned | no dice |
| 16:48.03 | x1250 | stoned, sh -c "text > file" |
| 16:48.04 | stoned | reading it now |
| 16:48.47 | abrotman | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:49.02 | abrotman | all the way near the bottom |
| 16:49.07 | simonrvn | hands abrotman a real pipe |
| 16:49.08 | stoned | Note that this runs the commands in a sub-shell to make the cd and file redirection work. |
| 16:49.16 | abrotman | simonrvn: i didn't write it! |
| 16:49.28 | simonrvn | ! |
| 16:49.40 | stoned | simon! |
| 16:49.49 | stoned | fucking snowed in again man! /me grumbles |
| 16:49.52 | simonrvn | ! |
| 16:49.54 | stoned | ! |
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| 16:50.25 | simonrvn | wow, it's above -15 now |
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| 16:50.55 | theholyduck | in other news. |
| 16:51.06 | theholyduck | #debian-no hasnt been used or updated since etch was testing |
| 16:51.07 | theholyduck | :D |
| 16:51.09 | abrotman | theholyduck: did you find the -no channel ? |
| 16:51.29 | theholyduck | well one of them |
| 16:51.32 | theholyduck | its just #debian-no in here |
| 16:51.43 | abrotman | theholyduck: yeah, and i don't see one on OFTC |
| 16:51.58 | stoned | but you speak english right |
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| 16:52.04 | theholyduck | stoned, well sure |
| 16:52.12 | theholyduck | i wouldnt WANT norwegian debian support |
| 16:52.13 | stoned | or are you trying to use the no localizaiton |
| 16:52.20 | stoned | lol |
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| 16:52.31 | theholyduck | stoned, i dont want norwegian localization either |
| 16:52.37 | stoned | so wtf is the problem? |
| 16:52.41 | theholyduck | stoned, there isnt one |
| 16:52.44 | abrotman | fd64: how'd you make out? |
| 16:52.44 | stoned | oh |
| 16:52.45 | stoned | word |
| 16:52.48 | theholyduck | its just lulzy |
| 16:52.48 | abrotman | stoned: he was just curious |
| 16:53.06 | fd64 | abrotman: Ok, but I cant get the xserver to use the correct reolutions |
| 16:53.18 | theholyduck | norwegian is a silly language anyway |
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| 16:53.26 | stoned | theholyduck, ot |
| 16:53.40 | theholyduck | topic is irrelevant .) |
| 16:53.45 | abrotman | fd64: need more information |
| 16:53.51 | fd64 | abrotman: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg gives no choice of driver or resolution |
| 16:53.56 | abrotman | fd64: nope it doesn't |
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| 16:53.58 | abrotman | fd64: try xrandr |
| 16:54.02 | stoned | sh -c is ok, but I wonder why sudo doesn't follow redirects |
| 16:54.09 | fd64 | so dpkg-reconfigure xrandr? |
| 16:54.28 | stoned | is there some security reason? some technical limitation for which it needs to process the redirects in a sub-shell? |
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| 16:54.57 | abrotman | fd64: nope .. just run it |
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| 16:55.30 | fd64 | abrotman: says it can't open the display |
| 16:55.56 | abrotman | fd64: as your user, not root |
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| 16:57.08 | fd64 | abrotman: it still cant open display |
| 16:57.24 | abrotman | fd64: is X running? |
| 16:57.33 | fd64 | abrotman: does it need to be? |
| 16:57.40 | abrotman | that's what it's intended to change |
| 16:57.48 | abrotman | you could also use X -configure |
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| 17:01.42 | fmr | ahah a new bug in kde 4.1, when I insert an usb media, the notifier popup, but the media is invisible... |
| 17:02.12 | fd64 | abrotman: well it spits out a bunch of resolutions. 1152*864 is what it is set at |
| 17:02.29 | JordiGH | fmr: I thought we recently got 4.2 in experimental? |
| 17:02.41 | JordiGH | never knows how to use apt to check the version. |
| 17:02.53 | fmr | JordiGH: I don't want to add experimental |
| 17:03.08 | JordiGH | fmr: If you're using KDE 4.1, you're already running experimental... |
| 17:03.21 | fmr | hu |
| 17:03.24 | fmr | erf |
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| 17:04.03 | JordiGH | fmr: Experimental has gotten a little abused recently because of the extended lenny freeze. :-/ |
| 17:04.07 | hlrz | Hi. Is it true that the next Backtrack release will be based on Debian dsitribution ? |
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| 17:05.16 | fd_64 | abrotman: got disconnected |
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| 17:05.45 | JordiGH | fmr: And looks like I was mistaken, 4.2 isn't quite packaged yet: http://ekaia.org/blog/2008/12/19/debian-snapshot-packages-of-kde-42/ |
| 17:05.48 | abrotman | fd_64: and which do you want ? |
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| 17:06.03 | fmr | JordiGH: thanx |
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| 17:06.50 | JordiGH | is still gonna wait a while before he tries KDE again and it looks less like Windows Vista. |
| 17:07.32 | abrotman | hlrz: you'd do better to ask them |
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| 17:11.01 | jamon | blargh, anyone have a logcheck rule for bind and EDNS timeout messages before I go and write one myself? |
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| 17:14.23 | stoned | Hydroxide, has a decision been made yet? |
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| 17:19.31 | jackweb | Hello! What is a function of /src/ directory? |
| 17:19.40 | jackweb | rather /srv/ |
| 17:20.03 | stew | jackweb: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#SRVDATAFORSERVICESPROVIDEDBYSYSTEM |
| 17:21.13 | jackweb | thanks |
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| 17:25.12 | SaintK | Hiya, I'm attempting to install Echt 'n half, and i have a raid0+1 config set in the bios and raid controller, but debian is ignoring that on install and just displays 4 sepperate disks. Any idea what could be going wrong here? |
| 17:26.25 | jackweb | And what is the most right directory for SQLite base file (*.db), if I don't want to put it into /var/www/? |
| 17:26.30 | abrotman | SaintK: real raid? |
| 17:26.33 | stew | SaintK: you don't have a hardware raid controller, you have fakeraid. see if it is supported by dmraid |
| 17:27.44 | SaintK | uhm, i think its real rate. ICH9 controller |
| 17:27.51 | abrotman | that's fakeraid |
| 17:27.54 | SaintK | oh |
| 17:27.56 | SaintK | snap |
| 17:28.01 | abrotman | crackle |
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| 17:29.42 | SaintK | How can i apply dmraid during setup? Can't find a article about it at google. |
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| 17:31.06 | jackweb | /var/lib/? |
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| 17:34.23 | smacnay | Can rdiff-backup pull files from a mounted samba share to backup over a network? |
| 17:35.29 | flower | are there contrib and non-free repo's for unstable or only main? |
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| 17:38.50 | abrotman | flower: huh? |
| 17:38.57 | abrotman | flower: oh yes, all three |
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| 17:39.11 | flower | abrotman: ok |
| 17:39.14 | flower | thanks |
| 17:39.28 | schnable | hey all.. i need to get my hands on an old package for sarge.. any tips on where i can find these? |
| 17:39.49 | abrotman | schnable: archive.debian.org |
| 17:39.52 | xjih78 | is there a chm viewer which remembers the last page visited? |
| 17:40.12 | schnable | abrotman: excellent,thank you |
| 17:40.29 | xjih78 | im currently using xchm. |
| 17:40.32 | jackweb | ok, I´m leavin' :) |
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| 17:48.37 | SaneSmith | how can I configure apt-get to use a different mirror? |
| 17:48.51 | SaneSmith | is there a list I can choose from or must I manually use sources.list? |
| 17:50.09 | bolexxx | apt-setup |
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| 17:51.23 | themill | !apt-spy |
| 17:51.23 | dpkg | a secret! Shh! 'Mirror, mirror, on the wall... who is the fastest of them all?' Note that it will overwrite your sources.list when finished, so (1) cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.mybak (2) apt-get install apt-spy (3) apt-spy update; apt-spy -d [stable,testing,unstable] -a [Africa,Asia,Europe,North-America,Oceania,South-America] (4) fix your sources.list by adding back in any other mirrors you had been using. |
| 17:51.35 | SaneSmith | thanks! |
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| 17:52.05 | SaneSmith | also, how can I tell which version of debian I'm running? |
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| 17:52.23 | themill | dpkg: tell SaneSmith about version |
| 17:52.36 | themill | bolexxx: apt-setup doesn't exist any more. /msg dpkg apt-setup |
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| 17:53.12 | bolexxx | oh, well im new into debian and im on version 3 |
| 17:53.21 | SaneSmith | It reads 4.0, I assume I'm on latest stable version? |
| 17:54.11 | stew | bolexxx: why are you running such an old version? |
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| 17:54.41 | bolexxx | stew: i need it for testing purposes, but isnt going as i planned |
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| 17:55.31 | stew | bolexxx: why do you need to test with a version of debian from 6 years ago? |
| 17:56.51 | bolexxx | some bugs i need to test |
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| 18:01.47 | jogla | Hello |
| 18:01.49 | themill | SaneSmith: correct, 4.0 is etch, the latest stable release of debian. |
| 18:02.01 | jogla | I'm currently installing testing using the graphical installer |
| 18:02.26 | jogla | I selected lvm and cryptography, it is going to encrypt all of my partitions? |
| 18:02.29 | keith_ | I have a lenny box with 5 disks in it, 2 of which are on a sata card, 3 on IDE. sometimes, when I boot, the IDE ones are sda, sdb, and sdc. this pushes the sata ones to sdd and sde. other times when I boot, the IDE ones are hd[abc]. wtf? |
| 18:02.46 | miller7 | hi guys, I'm trying to install Lenny on a 4TB hard disk (64bit OS). I reboot it fine and then I try to install vservers kernel. On reboot no boot screen shows and it gets stuck there. Boot partition is 1GB or so and it was booting fine earlier. This is happening 2 times I installed it. Any pointers? It takes ages to load OS to this HD :( |
| 18:03.05 | themill | keith_: booting with a different kernel? |
| 18:03.11 | miller7 | 4TB (raid5, that is) |
| 18:03.14 | keith_ | themill: nope! |
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| 18:03.20 | jogla | Ehmm, lenny installation party tonight? |
| 18:03.24 | themill | keith_: oh.... nfc then. |
| 18:03.38 | keith_ | it's not the end of the world, because I only reboot it about twice a year... but it's very confusing. messes up all kinds of stuff |
| 18:04.11 | reaktae | is there any way to recover name of files that fsck put in lost+found under random block names? |
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| 18:07.27 | jelly-home | reaktae: in general no |
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| 18:08.42 | reaktae | jelly-home: so what do i do? go through 1000+ files and guess where they came from? thanks qnap and their ext4! |
| 18:08.43 | Trewas | keith_: that's just the way it works nowadays, I have noticed that having usb disks plugged in when booting sometimes shifts the internal disks to different device names... not that it matters when partitions are mounted by UUID rather than /dev/sdx9 names |
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| 18:09.06 | jogla | http://img229.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img3346gl9.jpg |
| 18:09.21 | jogla | Is this going to encrypt all partitions? (besides /boot?) |
| 18:09.21 | jelly-home | reaktae: or restore from a backup |
| 18:09.27 | peleg | If I have rewrite.load file in apache2/mods-enabled, does it mean that rewrite mod is enabled? |
| 18:09.36 | keith_ | Trewas: UUID. ha. you're a funny guy! |
| 18:09.55 | reaktae | jelly-home: this is my backup. i just ran fsck on it for 8+ hrs |
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| 18:10.22 | Trewas | keith_: ? |
| 18:10.22 | keith_ | i suspect if I rebuilt this box, it would be okay... but this has been dragged through several years of upgrades |
| 18:10.32 | jelly-home | reaktae: my condolences. At least you know by now, it is not wise to use a new filesystem for production. |
| 18:10.36 | peppe | reaktae: did you run fsck on your backup without having a backup? |
| 18:10.36 | keith_ | i.e. not using UUID |
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| 18:11.25 | Trewas | keith_: maybe in your case the device names change whether the PATA or SATA module gets loaded first, using UUIDs etc would help there |
| 18:11.37 | JPT | can you explain why tar is giving me that message as follows ? |
| 18:11.39 | JPT | butler@vserver1254:~$ tar cfj /home/butler/backup.tar.bz2 /home/butler/dump.sql |
| 18:11.39 | JPT | tar: Removing leading `/' from member names |
| 18:12.05 | thehurley | hello, rather than issuing `iptables --list`, is there a file i can view to see the iptables rules? |
| 18:12.26 | miller7 | thehurley: typically /var/lib/iptables/ |
| 18:12.30 | jelly-home | reaktae: if you're running something like aide, tripwire or similar, you might use their databases to match the checksums to files in l+f |
| 18:12.32 | thehurley | thanks |
| 18:12.37 | miller7 | there is a file generated there when you stop iptables I think |
| 18:12.39 | keith_ | Trewas: yah, I suspect that's the problem. but now, i won't worry about it for about 6 months ;-) |
| 18:12.40 | enouf | keith4: i suggest you use uuids or labels for partitions/disks, udev even |
| 18:13.06 | enouf | keith4: Trewas 'a last is dead on, afaict |
| 18:13.15 | miller7 | thehurley: at least Gentoo installation puts it there - dunno about Debian. Search for "rules" file if I'm not mistaken |
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| 18:13.32 | thehurley | yer, it doesn't look like its there |
| 18:13.39 | reaktae | jelly-home: yeah. here's the full story: i bought a NAS server, put two drives in, selected raid1 and the rest was done by itself. took me about a half a year to decide that i'm done with qnap headless and want debian. ext4, however, is their standard!? great sunday i'm having. |
| 18:13.41 | reaktae | peppe: i did, there's no way i can backup all .9tb right now. i just backed up the "important stuff"... |
| 18:13.42 | jelly-home | JPT: that's normal for GNU tar, it says it stores "home/butler/..." instead of "/home/bulter/..." |
| 18:13.43 | reaktae | but boy am i glad to have debian installed on my turbonas! works like a charm. |
| 18:14.02 | enouf | keith4: and/or BIOS settings, and actual physical disk mobo connectors |
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| 18:14.16 | jelly-home | reaktae: I have no idea what qnap is. |
| 18:14.20 | JPT | hmm..okay.. |
| 18:14.23 | JPT | i'll try without.. |
| 18:14.25 | miller7 | thehurley: stop iptables and see if it creates it |
| 18:14.31 | enouf | you neither? .. thought atleast you might |
| 18:14.52 | jelly-home | reaktae: half a year ago ext4 was still labeled "ext4dev" in the kernel, that much I know |
| 18:15.15 | enouf | yep, it's since changed jelly-home to just ext4 |
| 18:15.45 | JPT | jelly-home: which argument can be parsed without the leading /.. the target or the source ? |
| 18:16.05 | reaktae | jelly-home: it's a company making NAS units. the only good thing about them is that they have make it possible to install debian on it http://www.cyrius.com/debian/orion/qnap/ts-209/. Thanks to Martin Michlmayr |
| 18:16.55 | miller7 | ok, is there anyone with experience with lenny, grub and GPT table (larger disks)? |
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| 18:18.05 | jelly-home | JPT: uh... I'm not sure what you're asking |
| 18:18.09 | JPT | okay... xD |
| 18:18.16 | Bert_2 | Hi, when I woke up today I got an error email from cron about logrotate, but I have no idea what it means or what logrotate is, can someone explain it to me please: http://pastebin.ca/1311759 ? |
| 18:18.19 | JPT | tar xjf argument1 argument2 |
| 18:18.32 | JPT | which needs the / and which one not ? |
| 18:18.32 | thehurley | miller7: had a quick look at `man iptables`, don't see any arg for stopping, can you tell me how to stop and start iptables? |
| 18:18.43 | reaktae | jelly-home: their proprietary headless linux was way crippled and packages were renamed/qpkged so i would have no idea what was up with the ext4. I had to virtually rape the unit to get busybox somewhat running. Anyway - i'm off to sort some garbage files i guess. Thanks for your help. |
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| 18:18.47 | whyking | hi |
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| 18:18.52 | miller7 | thehurley: /etc/init.d/iptables stop I assume |
| 18:19.09 | whyking | why does dpkg --unpack check for dependencies? After all, I just want to unpack, not install |
| 18:19.22 | whyking | or asked in another way, how can I unpack a conflicting package? |
| 18:19.30 | jelly-home | JPT: any of those can have a leading / or not; however GNU tar will always remove the leading / from the contents |
| 18:19.36 | JPT | hmm...okay |
| 18:19.37 | thehurley | miller7: i had a look at that too, but iptables doesn't exist in /etc/init.d/. in saying that i'm running a vps with plesk so it may be different |
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| 18:19.54 | reaktae | whyking: don't use dpkg to unpack. it's a package manager |
| 18:20.06 | jelly-home | whyking: maybe you wanted --extract |
| 18:20.21 | whyking | reaktae, what should I use? |
| 18:20.28 | miller7 | thehurley: no idea then man... I hate plesk anyway, it takes over all your system badly |
| 18:20.36 | jelly-home | whyking: what are you trying to do? |
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| 18:20.50 | whyking | jelly, extracting a .deb file |
| 18:21.12 | reaktae | whyking: what jelly-home said, also depends on what archive we're talking. .deb is usually a package not just an archive, right? |
| 18:21.20 | jelly-home | whyking: on the current system? |
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| 18:21.43 | jelly-home | whyking: where do you want its contents to go? |
| 18:23.45 | PingFloyd | whyking: man dpkg-deb |
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| 18:24.43 | abrotman | whyking: ar x foo.deb |
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| 18:25.47 | whyking | i got it now, thanks |
| 18:26.02 | whyking | the problem is that one program I'm using has some glitches with DRI |
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| 18:27.10 | PingFloyd | DRI?! |
| 18:27.37 | PingFloyd | sound like the a case of a bloated gui front-end |
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| 18:28.02 | abrotman | whyking: need moreinfo |
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| 18:28.31 | martiiin | Is it possible monitoring a program to see how much traffic the screen takes? |
| 18:28.34 | martiiin | internet traffic |
| 18:28.39 | ringo999 | can i install ardour on debian lenney through aptitude? |
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| 18:29.02 | whyking | PingFloyd, spot on |
| 18:29.16 | JordiGH | ringo999: It's only on unstable right now. |
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| 18:29.35 | JordiGH | martiiin: Do you mean something like gnome-system-monitor? |
| 18:29.53 | abrotman | ardour is in etch |
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| 18:30.06 | JordiGH | abrotman: Just not in lenny? |
| 18:30.13 | abrotman | AFAICT |
| 18:30.23 | whyking | abrotman, so I got it working now.. I don't think it is a problem of debian but of that software |
| 18:30.30 | martiiin | JordiGH yeah, But I can only access the terminal. I have no GUI |
| 18:30.34 | PingFloyd | whyking: which? the dpkg-deb -x, or case of bloated gui? |
| 18:30.43 | whyking | PingFloyd, bloated gui |
| 18:30.46 | PingFloyd | whyking: haha |
| 18:31.50 | keith_ | it looks like ardour is in etch, and ardour-[i686,altivec] are in sid. but nothing in lenny |
| 18:32.22 | whyking | ardour is amazing |
| 18:32.32 | PingFloyd | then time to download the ardour source or make your own backport :) |
| 18:32.39 | whyking | (totally unrelated comment) |
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| 18:33.47 | luisan | Hello. Is there a way to copy and paste using gpm with a macbook touchpad (only one button) |
| 18:34.18 | abrotman | luisan: did you check the gpm docs, or a readme for a macbook ? |
| 18:34.25 | abrotman | (silly machines with one button) |
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| 18:35.05 | luisan | abrotman: i dosn't found anything and yes, silly machines.... xD |
| 18:35.40 | abrotman | http://linuxaleph.blogspot.com/2008/11/mapping-middle-click-to-keyboard-key.html |
| 18:36.26 | luisan | abrotman: oh, nice!! Thanks a lot |
| 18:36.34 | scientes | how do i create a node for logging where it disappears to /dev/null if noone is listening? |
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| 18:37.51 | abrotman | luisan: google is good, google is wise |
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| 18:39.13 | luisan | abrotman: google is good if you know what to search ;) |
| 18:39.35 | abrotman | luisan: macbook linux middle click |
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| 18:40.50 | luisan | abrotman: yes, i'm so stupid as my fucking one button touchpad xD |
| 18:41.02 | abrotman | okay then |
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| 18:42.05 | luisan | abrotman: thanks a lot for the link |
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| 18:43.45 | Lovecraft | Does dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg in Lenny still crap out and leve an empty xorg.cof ? |
| 18:44.20 | theholyduck | isnt it supposed to be dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
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| 18:44.41 | theholyduck | im guessing it doesnt matter |
| 18:44.42 | theholyduck | but still |
| 18:44.45 | theholyduck | seems to work here |
| 18:44.48 | Lovecraft | I suppose. |
| 18:45.04 | theholyduck | though these days xorg.conf doesnt NEED anything in it |
| 18:45.18 | theholyduck | wich is why dpkg-reconfigure leaves it pretty much empty |
| 18:45.20 | abrotman | Lovecraft: that's intentional |
| 18:45.48 | Lovecraft | BUT IT DOESN'T USE THE RESOLUTION I PUT IN XORG.CONF |
| 18:45.56 | abrotman | YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG |
| 18:45.59 | theholyduck | obviously |
| 18:46.01 | Lovecraft | How? |
| 18:46.14 | abrotman | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg isn't for creating a custom xorg.conf |
| 18:46.14 | Lovecraft | It just doesn't work. |
| 18:46.18 | abrotman | X -configure |
| 18:46.35 | Lovecraft | Sad. Iys broken intentionally? |
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| 18:46.46 | abrotman | IT'S NOT BROKEN |
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| 18:46.50 | Lovecraft | Yes it is. |
| 18:46.56 | abrotman | okay file bugs .. have fun |
| 18:47.01 | Lovecraft | It leaves an empty xorg.conf |
| 18:47.06 | abrotman | which is perfectly fine |
| 18:47.08 | abrotman | it works great here |
| 18:47.10 | the1 | I am confused between the packages that installs the man page for gcc and the man pages for C. could you please clarify? |
| 18:47.21 | Lovecraft | No it isn't if it doesn't do the resolution I want. |
| 18:47.21 | the1 | C meaning C standard library |
| 18:47.22 | abrotman | the1: manpges-dev |
| 18:47.34 | the1 | thanks abrotman |
| 18:47.39 | abrotman | Lovecraft: then file a bug .. works for me, broken for you .. file a bug |
| 18:47.40 | jelly-home | Lovecraft: they removed everything from it, X is supposed to detect your monitor specs and use the optimal res. by default |
| 18:47.43 | abrotman | or learn how to use xrandr |
| 18:47.56 | Lovecraft | jelly-home: It detects it wrong. |
| 18:48.01 | abrotman | or learn how to create an xorg.conf |
| 18:48.08 | Lovecraft | xrandr just to set a resolution? |
| 18:48.21 | abrotman | an xorg.conf just to avoid using xrandr ? |
| 18:48.23 | jelly-home | Lovecraft: then you have to readd manual settings |
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| 18:48.34 | jelly-home | abrotman: xrandr doesn't save settings |
| 18:48.39 | abrotman | i'm aware |
| 18:48.51 | jelly-home | so it's not helping him |
| 18:48.54 | Lovecraft | I have read, installed Lenny straight, upgraded from stable, and it blows both ways. |
| 18:49.09 | Lovecraft | stalbe works. |
| 18:49.10 | abrotman | blows .. useful |
| 18:49.17 | Lovecraft | It leaves an empty xorg.conf |
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| 18:49.23 | abrotman | which works PERFECT here |
| 18:49.31 | Lovecraft | Anything I enter there is ignored. |
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| 18:49.39 | abrotman | then you're doing it wrong |
| 18:49.44 | Lovecraft | How? |
| 18:49.48 | Lovecraft | In what way? |
| 18:49.53 | jelly-home | Lovecraft: paste your xorg.conf, and /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 18:49.57 | abrotman | well, i haven't seen any files from you, hard to tell |
| 18:51.07 | jelly-home | Lovecraft: so we can see what gets ignored |
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| 18:51.07 | jelly-home | !paste |
| 18:51.07 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! |
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| 18:51.08 | Lovecraft | The resolutions get ignored. |
| 18:51.08 | Lovecraft | It has since last summer. |
| 18:51.08 | abrotman | yeah, who needs files/logs/helpful stuff |
| 18:51.12 | Mohammad[B] | hi all, sorry for this question, how to i can with w3m refresh a page per 2 minutes? ... |
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| 18:51.37 | jelly-home | Lovecraft: we can't even try to help in a meaningful way (with X issues) unless actual files are provided |
| 18:51.43 | Lovecraft | I've checked the logs, my monitor can handle the resolution, the logs show nothing. |
| 18:52.00 | abrotman | not going to share apparently |
| 18:52.05 | Lovecraft | I've used debain for quite a few years. |
| 18:52.06 | jelly-home | shrugs |
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| 18:52.35 | grummund | upgraded kernel from 2.6.18 to 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 and now sound no longer works ;-( |
| 18:52.37 | Lovecraft | So why does it leave an empty xorg.conf ? |
| 18:52.42 | abrotman | it's supposed to |
| 18:52.45 | grummund | gnome volume control says "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found." |
| 18:52.55 | grummund | Multimedia Systems Selector says: "Autodetect: Could not open resource for writing." |
| 18:53.00 | grummund | ... it was okay until i upgraded to kernel 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686, any suggestions pls? |
| 18:53.43 | jelly-home | Lovecraft: it works that way now. |
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| 18:54.37 | Piet | hi. i'm looking for a way to create multi-volume archives on linux, which can be easily extracted (using the common softwares) on windows. |
| 18:55.00 | Lovecraft | One would thing though, that IF I wanted to use an xorg.conf, it would use it. I am aware xorg runs quite happily with no config file. |
| 18:55.04 | jelly-home | Piet: stupid, non-free way: install rar from <non-free> |
| 18:55.36 | abrotman | Lovecraft: are you going to paste your xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log or just continue to whine? |
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| 18:56.03 | Lovecraft | I am not. Its pointless, you'd see nothing I did. |
| 18:56.23 | Lovecraft | Its all standard stuff, no errors or gotchas. |
| 18:56.27 | jelly-home | Lovecraft: then we can't help, sorry |
| 18:56.28 | abrotman | then create an xorg.conf you think should work, start X, get log .. show us that oyu're doing it right and it's ignoring it |
| 18:56.37 | abrotman | or at least show us the log you have now |
| 18:56.44 | abrotman | if you're not willing to share, we can't help you |
| 18:56.54 | Lovecraft | This log is from a working etch. |
| 18:56.58 | jelly-home | Lovecraft: try #xorg ... they're going to ask for exact same things though |
| 18:57.24 | abrotman | wonders how you can complain about drxx on lenny, but only have logs from etch |
| 18:57.41 | Lovecraft | I reinstalled to something I know works? |
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| 18:57.49 | jelly-home | Piet: if you want a free way, you can use "split" on virtually any archive, then concatenate all the parts on Windows with "copy /b xaa+xab+xac+.... orig-name.zip" |
| 18:58.07 | Piet | jelly-home: yes, you're the second person to suggest that to me (not here, though), hehe. |
| 18:58.24 | Piet | right, but that sucks in terms of 'ease of use' |
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| 18:58.59 | jelly-home | Piet: that's probably why I suggests nonfree shareware first |
| 18:59.19 | jelly-home | suggested* |
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| 19:00.11 | eekee | um, zipsplit comes with normal unix zip |
| 19:01.11 | Piet | :) thanks for your suggestion. i'll check whether 7zip supports that |
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| 19:03.01 | ShishKabab | Hi. I've just plugged in an extra GB of memory in my PC. It isn't detected however. Do I need to adjust a config file? |
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| 19:03.51 | cahoot_ | ShishKabab: what kernel? uname -r |
| 19:04.00 | node8 | how do i do this: "In most cases, you can simply run "pear install Net_SmartIRC"." ?? |
| 19:04.04 | simonrvn | no. your kernel might need to have the 64 GB bigmem option set. |
| 19:04.08 | doti | hello. In which package are xmodmap and setxkbmap commands? |
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| 19:04.27 | Piet | eekee: ah thanks, i'll try that |
| 19:04.42 | ShishKabab | cahoot_: 2.6.26-1-486 |
| 19:04.52 | jelly-home | ShishKabab: how much is there now? |
| 19:04.54 | Piet | btw 7-zip can do it, too: -v{Size}[b|k|m|g] |
| 19:04.55 | cahoot_ | ShishKabab: get a 686 kernel |
| 19:06.16 | eekee | Piet: welcome |
| 19:06.17 | simonrvn | yesh |
| 19:06.17 | jelly-home | eekee: zip split archive format sucks, though |
| 19:06.17 | ShishKabab | jelly-home: 906292 kB |
| 19:06.17 | ShishKabab | cahoot_: How? Just a package? |
| 19:06.17 | jelly-home | ShishKabab: I mean physical memory |
| 19:06.17 | cahoot_ | ShishKabab: aptitude search linux-image |
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| 19:06.31 | eekee | jelly-home: ah I didn't know that |
| 19:06.33 | ShishKabab | jelly-home: 2GB. Detected on startup check. |
| 19:06.40 | jelly-home | ShishKabab: if it's less than 4GB, you can use linux-image-2.6-686 |
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| 19:06.58 | simonrvn | oh, no need for the funky kernel |
| 19:07.04 | jelly-home | right |
| 19:07.05 | ShishKabab | I'm searching as we speak. |
| 19:07.46 | simonrvn | good start, multitasking |
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| 19:09.22 | ShishKabab | By the way. Will I need to upgrade the NVidia drivers? |
| 19:09.58 | cahoot_ | I'd think so |
| 19:10.46 | martiiin | Is it possible monitoring a program to see how much traffic the application or (screen) takes? Network traffic with only the terminal? |
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| 19:11.25 | ShishKabab | cahoot_: Mmm.... My favorite chore. Well, I'm going to reboot now. |
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| 19:11.39 | enouf | Lovecraft: hi .. posible, somethings needed were overlooked? the 3 main ones i've been seeing as forgotten about are a) Vert/Hor Refresh rate frequencies b) Virtual X Y c) DisplaySize mm mm (obviously there are many more - you know about Xorg -configure?) |
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| 19:12.04 | Piet | gaah... zipsplit error: Entry too big to split, read, or write: meineisodatei.iso |
| 19:12.07 | Lovecraft | enouf: Yup, I do. |
| 19:12.09 | enouf | martiiin: quite a few |
| 19:12.13 | r3r3 | hello, silly question: how do you test a remote server's upload speed? |
| 19:12.20 | doti | Where can i find xmodmap and setxkbmap commands? In which package are they? |
| 19:12.28 | abrotman | !tell doti about search |
| 19:12.50 | Lovecraft | I tried editing startx to use server flags for what xorg.comf to use. |
| 19:12.55 | Lovecraft | No go there either. |
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| 19:13.17 | simonrvn | um |
| 19:14.04 | Lovecraft | I know whar to put in the configs, they're just ignored in newer xorgs. |
| 19:14.20 | simonrvn | right |
| 19:14.32 | abrotman | and we still don't have logs ... |
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| 19:14.52 | dthommas | Hello Friends ... I want to make a linux installer CD with my custom kernel build . Can somebody help me out onto this ? I dont know how to make it . |
| 19:15.00 | simonrvn | i know how to handle this |
| 19:15.02 | abrotman | dthommas: i told you #ubuntu |
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| 19:15.18 | doti | abrotman: i'm searching in google and im using apt but i dosn't found anything. |
| 19:15.27 | abrotman | !tell doti about apt-file |
| 19:16.05 | dthommas | sorry, I went there but could not get the answer ...But I will try again |
| 19:16.16 | abrotman | dthommas: then try ##linux .. your question has nothing to do with Debian |
| 19:16.46 | Lovecraft | Dpesn't Debian have tools for making custom boot cds? |
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| 19:17.16 | abrotman | Lovecraft: not out of ubuntu |
| 19:17.28 | enouf | one is even 'tail cat /proc/net/dev' .. or similar .. oh why-o-why must i brainfart so ... |
| 19:17.30 | abrotman | Lovecraft: he was already asking on OFTC |
| 19:18.30 | Qew | Lovecraft: xorg thinks my monitor has a default refresh rate of 75 (it can handle it, but the display is shifted... which is easily fixed, but the monitor has a default of 60, and I'd rather it use that), so a blank xorg.conf gives it 75. However, setting mode lines to give it a 60 rate in xorg.conf works and is picked up. Clearly xorg.conf, in my case, doesn't get ignored. |
| 19:18.49 | martiiin | enoif can you hint me up with a good program? |
| 19:18.56 | Qew | logs would be welcome, though ;) |
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| 19:19.14 | enouf | Lovecraft: possible newer updated drivers meant to interact differently? for ex; in Etch there was intel and i810 - one kind of got merged into the other so there's only intel now (the latter into the former, IIRC) .. similar with ati and radeon, IINM |
| 19:19.41 | martiiin | enouf can you hint me up with a good program regarding my earlier post? |
| 19:19.43 | lassiethebrave | Would anybody inhere know why the gpg options in psi (qt jabber client) are grayed out in lenny? |
| 19:19.44 | enouf | Lovecraft: run tools like cvt, and gft and xrandr |
| 19:20.13 | Lovecraft | I'll just stay with Etch; that at least works. |
| 19:20.17 | abrotman | enouf: he's not on lenny anymore .. irrelevent |
| 19:20.31 | enouf | martiiin: maybe libstatgrab6, or netperf, or many others |
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| 19:21.05 | enouf | abrotman: didn't know what he's on ;-) .. relevant |
| 19:21.21 | SaintK | Which version of Lenny is adviced? The RC1 release or the weekly build ? |
| 19:21.39 | abrotman | enouf: drop iti guess .. he won't listen to us, and can't give us files to help |
| 19:21.53 | abrotman | course .. you did start it again 20 minutes after it'd been "resolved" |
| 19:22.08 | Lovecraft | Assume I really do know how to work this stuff. |
| 19:22.18 | enouf | abrotman: welp, doesn't mean i can't talk to my bud - right? ... or .. do you respectfully request we talk elsewhere? |
| 19:22.30 | MatBoy | mhh, mod_rwerite is always an issue to enable :S |
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| 19:22.43 | abrotman | enouf: i'm just saying it's useless, he's not on lenny, you read half the conversation apparently, and he didn't save any useful files |
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| 19:22.52 | keith_ | MatBoy: an "issue"? it's always 'a2enmod rewrite' |
| 19:22.59 | MatBoy | enouf: really long time no see ! |
| 19:23.08 | enouf | abrotman: i understand your assessment - thanks for the info |
| 19:23.13 | enouf | MatBoy: hola |
| 19:23.19 | MatBoy | keith_: yes, also on Ubuntu, but itÅ enabled but doesn't work in some way... |
| 19:23.22 | MatBoy | had it before |
| 19:23.25 | Lovecraft | The logs / files are useless. The logs show nothing unusual or useful, the xorg.conf is empty. |
| 19:23.32 | MatBoy | AllowOverride is set |
| 19:23.41 | MatBoy | enouf: how are you ? |
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| 19:23.49 | enouf | Lovecraft: if you'd like to try in pm, or another channel with me (maybe others) i'm game |
| 19:23.58 | MatBoy | blijblijblij: my dns name is nicer :P |
| 19:24.02 | Lovecraft | Nah .. I'm not going to bother. |
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| 19:24.13 | enouf | MatBoy: ok .. i guess |
| 19:24.25 | MatBoy | enouf: hehe... guess :P |
| 19:24.28 | enouf | o bee kaybee |
| 19:24.34 | abrotman | Lovecraft: that's what you say/think, but you didn't save anything for anyone else to look at .. hard to say |
| 19:24.44 | abrotman | bah .. why bother |
| 19:24.44 | MatBoy | enouf: LOL |
| 19:24.57 | ShishKabab | cahoot: It worked. Thanks! |
| 19:25.06 | cahoot | np |
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| 19:25.44 | Lovecraft | I'm not going to re-install Lenny just so I can show you nothing. |
| 19:26.03 | Lovecraft | Etch works. |
| 19:26.05 | abrotman | okay, problem solved, have a nice day! |
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| 19:26.58 | Lovecraft | Just wondering why dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg leaves an empty config file, and sort of hoping it had been fixed by now. |
| 19:27.20 | abrotman | we keep telling you, it's supposed to do that |
| 19:27.25 | abrotman | you keep ignoring us |
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| 19:27.29 | stoned | lol |
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| 19:27.51 | stoned | perhaps you're telling him in simple enough terms, obviously he can't understand what you've told him already |
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| 19:27.55 | Lovecraft | Its supposed to set the wrong resolution and ignore the config file? Why have any commands for configuration then? |
| 19:28.25 | abrotman | yes, once again .. we have no logs, works for other people |
| 19:28.33 | abrotman | we can only assume you did something wrong |
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| 19:28.50 | stoned | Lovecraft, its supposed to auto-configure everything, however on rare occasions it doesn't seem to work, or if you still need to customize it you can. Just google for sample xorg.conf and customize yours, whats the big deal? |
| 19:28.51 | Lovecraft | I installed. That was it. |
| 19:28.58 | abrotman | unless you're willing to go back to lenny .. this conversation is over |
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| 19:29.05 | runa | hey :) how can I use xmodmap so Mod4 is Control_R and Alt_R pressed at the same time? |
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| 19:29.25 | Lovecraft | Installed straight, and upgraded from Etch. |
| 19:29.33 | Brack10 | I'm having a trouble sharing files with Samba. When I follow the "read only document server" ( http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/FastStart.html#id2546704) example it works fine, exacly as expected However when I modify to add read/write permission using force user from the next section it doesn't work. I can't connect to the share from windows or another linux box. The user that is forced has permission to the folder and is a me |
| 19:29.38 | Brack10 | sorry if this is a repost |
| 19:29.44 | Brack10 | I don't know whether the 1st one went through |
| 19:29.45 | elik | abrotman is getting tired of Lovecraft |
| 19:29.50 | elik | thinks* |
| 19:29.55 | elik | I always miss those |
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| 19:30.04 | stoned | 02:22 < Lovecraft> The logs / files are useless... <- and abrotman is still trying to help you? Hes a nice guy. |
| 19:30.07 | abrotman | verbs hard, let's shopping |
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| 19:30.38 | stoned | or should I say patient |
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| 19:30.47 | Lovecraft | I was just hoping there'd be a fix / work-around. |
| 19:31.00 | abrotman | i would like to see the logs, but he doesn't have them, and isn't willing to go to lenny, really.. the entire conversation is pointless |
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| 19:31.23 | stoned | I followed the conversaion and I'm not gonig to repeat whats been already said. If you want help, answer our questions and do as we say. We're only trying to gather all the info |
| 19:31.48 | sepski | i have a issue problem with my debian lenny, nfs root, pxe booting machine. when nfs-common starts rpc.statd hangs for a few minutes before failing and booting continues. how can i troubleshoot ? |
| 19:31.58 | elik | stoned, wow, sounds like Hitler isn't dead after all :P |
| 19:32.03 | abrotman | sepski: sounds like a DNS or RDNS issue |
| 19:32.04 | elik | stoned, do as we say! |
| 19:32.23 | stoned | w/e |
| 19:32.47 | sepski | abrotman, both those are correct as far as i can gather. |
| 19:33.23 | elik | You could suggest him to install windows and call customer service :) |
| 19:33.25 | abrotman | sepski: see what's in /etc/hosts |
| 19:33.35 | abrotman | sepski: you could have asked first :) |
| 19:33.42 | sepski | abrotman, aye i should have |
| 19:34.14 | sepski | abrotman, /etc/hosts contains only localhost and the machines own ip and fqdn + its shortname as it's alias |
| 19:34.29 | abrotman | sepski: pastebin or something |
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| 19:35.01 | lassiethebrave | Would anybody here know why the lenny version of psi greys out the gpg settings? (I would ask the psi people but they tend to hang out in the jabber space...(wich is outside the confines of my school firewall (we use jabber internally))) |
| 19:35.07 | stoned | does the size of the hosts file matter? |
| 19:35.17 | stoned | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 587K 2009-01-04 14:37 /etc/hosts |
| 19:35.20 | stoned | :) |
| 19:35.23 | elik | I dreamt I pasted a shitload of logs on #debian and got banned by abrotman ... disturbing |
| 19:35.34 | abrotman | what? |
| 19:35.44 | Lovecraft | elik: Give it a rest. |
| 19:35.50 | stoned | elik, do you have a debian support related question? |
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| 19:36.13 | stoned | anyway, anyone? does the size of the hosts file diminish any perforce on lookups or anything? |
| 19:36.19 | sepski | abrotman, http://paste.debian.net/26311/ |
| 19:36.20 | stoned | performance* |
| 19:36.22 | Lovecraft | No big thing, just a disag between gentlemen. |
| 19:36.27 | abrotman | lassiethebrave: install libqca2-plugin-gnupg .. restsart psi perhaps ? |
| 19:36.50 | sepski | raserv have a disk (bo problem) player have nfsroot (problem) |
| 19:36.54 | lassiethebrave | abrotman: I'll give it a try. |
| 19:36.55 | stoned | this mike's adblocking hosts file is HUGE! |
| 19:37.14 | stoned | but I haven't seen an ad in ages, plus element hiding helper, plus adblock plus |
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| 19:38.00 | stoned | though sometimes I have to disable my hosts file to see some websites that get blocked like I had to earlier where I headed the first 12 lines and redirected them to a new hosts file |
| 19:38.36 | stoned | what if you had like 100,000 entries in hosts file? does that affect any kind of performance? |
| 19:39.19 | abrotman | sepski: if you try "127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost raserv" .. does that make a difference ? |
| 19:39.30 | elik | stoned, I have never heard of a O(logn) complexity analysis.. so I can only assume that it does.. in the long run |
| 19:39.47 | stoned | elik, math is beyond me |
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| 19:40.13 | stoned | elik, unless its boolean algebra or Music Set theory I can't do math |
| 19:40.14 | stoned | :/ |
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| 19:40.27 | sepski | abrotman, and remove the line with the real ip or keep it ? |
| 19:40.36 | abrotman | keep it |
| 19:41.29 | sepski | stil hangs when trying to start rpc.statd |
| 19:42.00 | abrotman | sepski: did you check the logs for any errors ? |
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| 19:43.01 | sepski | yes i could not see anything suspicious. |
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| 19:43.20 | sepski | are hosts.allow used ? |
| 19:45.57 | lassiethebrave | abrotman: It's working! thank you! |
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| 19:55.54 | Lovecraft | Its a live cd, what did you expect? |
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| 19:56.24 | abrotman | Lovecraft: ? |
| 19:56.36 | Lovecraft | Just a minor oops there. :/ |
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| 19:56.57 | Lovecraft | I missed a ^w |
| 19:57.03 | abrotman | heh |
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| 19:57.51 | sepski | abrotman, arrghhh i figured it out. loopback was not UP when nfs-common was starting |
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| 19:58.06 | sepski | abrotman, thanks for listening :) |
| 19:58.18 | abrotman | oh, that'll do it |
| 19:58.29 | abrotman | sepski: did you alter something to make that happen ? |
| 19:58.42 | Lovecraft | Odd that lo would be off. |
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| 19:59.03 | sepski | abrotman, there is no default interfaces file when you do a debootstrap, |
| 19:59.10 | sepski | and this was a nfsroot machine |
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| 19:59.41 | BadRobot | hi there |
| 19:59.43 | sepski | well there is a file but it contains 2 commented lines iirc |
| 19:59.47 | sepski | and no interfaces |
| 20:00.00 | BadRobot | how do i update my system via terminal? |
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| 20:00.54 | abrotman | BadRobot: man aptitude |
| 20:01.36 | SaintK | Can debian run propperly without swap partition? |
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| 20:01.46 | lassiethebrave | BadRobot: aptitude update; aptitude safe-upgrade |
| 20:01.59 | SaintK | I'm stting up Lenny, and created a software raid10 during setup, but i can only create 1 partition, not 1 etx3 and 1 swap |
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| 20:02.04 | elik | abrotman, is there a reason why you don't point to apt-get upgrade? |
| 20:02.10 | SaintK | so i created 1 etx3 and continued without swap |
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| 20:02.26 | abrotman | elik: because aptitude is the recommended tool |
| 20:02.36 | elik | abrotman, ah.. ok, what does it do better? |
| 20:02.42 | abrotman | !tell elik about why aptitude |
| 20:02.43 | elik | abrotman, conflict resolution? |
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| 20:03.09 | luisan | is there a way to map middle button to a keyboard key without using an X solution like xmodmap? |
| 20:03.22 | elik | abrotman, fair enough |
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| 20:03.25 | BadRobot | thx |
| 20:03.36 | abrotman | luisan: wait .. didn't we cover this? |
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| 20:05.02 | luisan | abrotman: no |
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| 20:05.30 | abrotman | luisan: oh, you want a console solution |
| 20:05.35 | hark | SaintK: you can use a swap file instead |
| 20:06.00 | luisan | abrotman: yes. xmodmap works great with x but i need a console solution |
| 20:06.05 | SaintK | hark: Thanks for the tip, i'll google on that once the setup is done |
| 20:06.22 | oboenbob` | hello. |
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| 20:06.48 | abrotman | luisan: you might want to ask #debianppc on irc.oftc.net |
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| 20:07.23 | luisan | abrotman: ok, thanks |
| 20:07.30 | peleg | I have mod_rewrite enabled, but it looks like it just doesn't work at all. No logs, no error logs, nothing. What can it be? in #apache they blaim debian... |
| 20:07.31 | oboenbob` | how do i get the data needed to write a udev-rule? (lsusb udevinfo /var/log/messages)? |
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| 20:08.00 | Bixxmexx_ | http://www.to-6.net/?uid=62054 |
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| 20:08.20 | Bixxmexx_ | HOT BABES >>>http://www.to-6.net/?uid=62054 |
| 20:08.22 | elik | >.> |
| 20:08.24 | elik | I thought so |
| 20:08.58 | jelly-home | abrotman: where's your banning tool! |
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| 20:09.05 | Lovecraft | What a dip. |
| 20:09.10 | screamingbytes | afternoon all |
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| 20:09.24 | jelly-home | \o/ |
| 20:09.32 | abrotman | tomaw: RichiH g229179159.adsl.alicedsl.de spammer |
| 20:09.34 | dazjorz | what's behind the link? :P |
| 20:09.52 | jelly-home | dazjorz: fake promises of pron |
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| 20:10.10 | elik | jelly-home, always deceiving eh... |
| 20:10.13 | dazjorz | I expected a rick roll or so |
| 20:10.35 | jelly-home | dazjorz: if it has id=213213, it's a click-collecting spam |
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| 20:11.06 | elik | abrotman, dunno what you think of that rule... but if you post an url as the first thing.. you're most likely a spammer |
| 20:11.16 | dazjorz | jelly-home: yeah |
| 20:11.25 | elik | jelly-home, didn't see no ?id there |
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| 20:11.33 | dazjorz | elik: maybe it's a pastebin link? |
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| 20:11.44 | dazjorz | -!- someguy [..] has joined #debian |
| 20:11.46 | jelly-home | elik: uhh... ?uid=62054 |
| 20:11.49 | dazjorz | < someguy> http://pastebin.com/... |
| 20:12.00 | dazjorz | < someguy> there's a problem I've been having... |
| 20:12.02 | elik | jelly-home, that's not ?uid |
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| 20:12.11 | elik | dazjorz, I consider it rude.. but that's just me |
| 20:12.13 | simonrvn | dazjorz: i've someone use a pastebin to post spam |
| 20:12.14 | lejacques | hi all |
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| 20:12.48 | jelly-home | dazjorz: Hi I have an issue with HOT BABES that got in my tub after installing mpd from testing, here's the paste? |
| 20:12.52 | lejacques | could someone give me a hand accessing a box behind a dhcp router with ssh? |
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| 20:13.02 | dazjorz | simonrvn: yeah - but it's no reason to ban anyone if he comes in and pastes a link right away |
| 20:13.06 | elik | jelly-home, they got a cup? |
| 20:13.06 | dazjorz | elik: I agree |
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| 20:13.22 | abrotman | lejacques: is the port open ? |
| 20:13.32 | jelly-home | elik: not one, N+1 of! |
| 20:13.33 | simonrvn | didn't say it was |
| 20:13.33 | dazjorz | jelly-home: I think we're going to need some more pictures to help you with that... |
| 20:13.34 | pkrumins | Hi guys. Suppose during the installation i created a user 'fo' instead of 'foo'. I know Debian uses PAM, but I am a slackware guy who has not used PAM. I want to fix this mistake. Is it enough that I edit /etc/passwd and change fo to foo, then edit /etc/groups and change fo to foo (debian puts username 'user' in group 'user') and then mv /home/fo /home/foo? |
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| 20:14.14 | jelly-home | pkrumins: basically yes; you could also use usermod |
| 20:14.25 | abrotman | lejacques: please don't message me .. talk in here |
| 20:14.26 | jelly-home | pkrumins: don't forget /etc/shadow |
| 20:14.47 | dazjorz | jelly-home: usermod has an option for that? |
| 20:14.50 | dazjorz | pkrumins: vipw and vipw -s |
| 20:14.50 | lejacques | abrotman, ok |
| 20:14.56 | dazjorz | pkrumins: don't edit passwd and shadow directly |
| 20:15.01 | lejacques | abrotman, well yes, it is open |
| 20:15.15 | dazjorz | also, vipw -g |
| 20:15.20 | abrotman | lejacques: what is the error ? |
| 20:15.20 | dmoerner | pkrumins: usermod -l newlogin -m -d /home/newlogin should be enough |
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| 20:15.36 | dazjorz | oh, I looked over -l |
| 20:15.38 | lejacques | Im just not sure how I can go about accessing it consistently |
| 20:15.46 | lejacques | since the ip is going to change |
| 20:15.49 | lejacques | im not static |
| 20:15.54 | dmoerner | i can't quite tell from the manpage if both -m and -d are needed or if -m is enough |
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| 20:16.05 | lejacques | is that something you'd use dyndns for? |
| 20:16.08 | enouf | pkrumins: there's /etc/gshadow as well, iinm |
| 20:16.32 | abrotman | lejacques: yes, it is |
| 20:16.38 | jelly-home | !wtf iinm |
| 20:16.39 | dpkg | Gee... I don't know what iinm means... |
| 20:16.50 | jelly-home | you and me both, dpkg |
| 20:17.11 | enouf | !wtfbbq |
| 20:17.11 | dpkg | methinks bbq is http://www.mpcfaculty.net/ron_rinehart/grilfire.jpg |
| 20:17.44 | pkrumins | oh yeah |
| 20:17.45 | pkrumins | thanks |
| 20:18.10 | enouf | alters the !wtf iinm factoid to; Gee... I don't know what if i'm not mistaken means... |
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| 20:19.49 | enouf | pkrumins: man chfn might also interest you, not needed, but note it |
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| 20:20.32 | lejacques | abrotman, so ive got an account, and host with dyndns, do I just input that into my router config? |
| 20:20.58 | abrotman | lejacques: never used it, don't know |
| 20:21.05 | enouf | pkrumins: (much of) the pam config stuff (not all) is in /etc/pam.d/* (another note) |
| 20:21.18 | stoned | why is it called pam |
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| 20:21.36 | enouf | plugin authentication module? |
| 20:21.52 | Tramp | pluggable, iirc |
| 20:22.01 | abrotman | pluggable yes |
| 20:22.02 | enouf | better |
| 20:22.02 | stoned | but thats just retarded |
| 20:22.13 | stoned | isn't that what a module is anyway? |
| 20:22.23 | stoned | pluggable? |
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| 20:22.28 | enouf | mpa? modules of pluggable authentication? |
| 20:22.31 | jelly-home | stoned: what was there before was even more retarded |
| 20:22.34 | abrotman | !pam |
| 20:22.34 | dpkg | rumour has it, pam is the Pluggable Authentication Modules. Check http://www.us.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/ for more information. Linux-PAM SysAdmin's Guide is at http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/Linux-PAM-html/Linux-PAM_SAG.html. PAM Always Malfunctions |
| 20:22.37 | enouf | moper :-p |
| 20:22.41 | stoned | jelly-home, really? |
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| 20:22.51 | stoned | what was before pam? |
| 20:23.21 | enouf | rot13 |
| 20:23.24 | stoned | so why say pluggable when it already is |
| 20:23.25 | enouf | hides |
| 20:23.26 | jelly-home | stoned: every service had its own way of using something-other-than-/etc/passwd |
| 20:23.44 | stoned | I'm just nickpicking on the title, its just redundant |
| 20:23.51 | aardvarq | onjoin: [13:34:03] <`ece`> http://www.videoturk.tr.gs Free Porno Videos |
| 20:23.56 | stoned | jelly-home, I see |
| 20:24.06 | Loto | 'ece' is spam |
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| 20:24.13 | Loto | pls ban |
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| 20:24.15 | enouf | stoned: why is RAID 0 considered raid 0? there's no redundancy! |
| 20:24.19 | stoned | aardvarq, no need to put in here the link |
| 20:24.31 | elik | aardvarq, thx for the reminder |
| 20:24.31 | stoned | aardvarq, next time simply tell us who is spamming |
| 20:24.32 | jelly-home | enouf: you're going to break his mind |
| 20:24.41 | enouf | heh |
| 20:24.42 | pkrumins | enouf, thanks :) |
| 20:24.44 | stoned | enouf, what? |
| 20:25.01 | enouf | !raid |
| 20:25.01 | dpkg | rumour has it, raid is Redundant Array of Inexpensive Disks. See RAID{0-5}, <Software Raid>, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_RAID_levels, <raid-resizing> |
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| 20:25.24 | stoned | its an arrya of inexpensive disks |
| 20:25.35 | enouf | i have an AID 0 ? |
| 20:25.35 | stoned | maybe raid 0 isn't redundant |
| 20:25.38 | stoned | sure |
| 20:25.42 | stoned | AID 0 |
| 20:25.56 | smacnay | abrotman: was it you who uses rdiff-backup? |
| 20:26.03 | enouf | er .. wait, 0 is the only non-reduntant one, so; i have an AID? |
| 20:26.10 | stoned | yes |
| 20:27.01 | enouf | hrm .. how about "i stictched my disks together with duct tape, sawzalls, and seweing needles" |
| 20:27.03 | kombi | how do I get php5-mysql to adress a hand-rolled mysql4? |
| 20:27.06 | abrotman | smacnay: it was someone else that said they did |
| 20:27.13 | enouf | er - one 'e' |
| 20:27.30 | enouf | gah - and a 'c' |
| 20:28.18 | xand | kombi: why would it matter what the mysql server was? |
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| 20:28.37 | lejacques | anyone here have any dyndns experience? |
| 20:28.49 | stoned | lejacques, ask your question |
| 20:29.22 | lejacques | im having trouble connecting, Im not sure im doing things correctly |
| 20:29.24 | stoned | those assholes closed my account after 5 years.. they just started a new policy, if you don't login to your account for 30 days they delete it |
| 20:29.34 | kombi | xand: it's not connecting.. |
| 20:29.47 | stoned | lejacques, that doesn't help us at all |
| 20:29.51 | xand | kombi: and the error is? |
| 20:29.53 | stoned | !tell lejacques -about ask |
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| 20:30.02 | lejacques | stoned, I know, frankly, Im not sure what Im doing wrong |
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| 20:30.10 | kombi | xand: no socket.. |
| 20:30.12 | elik | lejacques, connection from where |
| 20:30.44 | zinx | `ece` = free porno video onjoin spam |
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| 20:30.44 | stoned | how can we know what you are doing wrong if you don't even tell us what you're doing |
| 20:30.44 | kombi | xand: let me be more precise.. one sec |
| 20:30.51 | lejacques | stoned, sorry, let me start over |
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| 20:31.17 | elik | lejacques, from router? Cause I have a no-ip accout set up that way... but that ain't very hard to do |
| 20:31.23 | fmr | I'm unable to read an audio cd... an idea ? |
| 20:31.38 | stoned | fmr, check the cd for scratches, make sure your cd drive works |
| 20:31.42 | lejacques | Im trying to set things up so that I can access my box, which is behind a router, which is dhcp |
| 20:31.44 | stoned | fmr, which program are you using to read it? |
| 20:31.48 | xand | fmr: you're doing it wrong, cd is damaged, drive is faulty |
| 20:31.52 | fmr | stoned: krcd or amarok |
| 20:31.57 | luisan | abrotman: abrotman, #debianppc is only for ppc and i'm on an intel mac |
| 20:32.02 | stoned | lejacques, it won't work on dhcp |
| 20:32.06 | fmr | nah drive work, cd too |
| 20:32.07 | abrotman | luisan: oh dear .. i'm sorry |
| 20:32.13 | zinx | !ops `ece` onjoin spamming |
| 20:32.13 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: zinx complains about: `ece` onjoin spamming |
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| 20:32.17 | luisan | abrotman: no problem |
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| 20:32.38 | stoned | lejacques, dhcp will keep changing your ip every so often so when you forward ports, they will get fucked up |
| 20:32.38 | *** mode/#debian [-o abrotman] by abrotman |
| 20:32.43 | luisan | abrotman: is there a #debianintel channel? xD |
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| 20:33.02 | lejacques | stoned, i must be mistaken as to what dyndns does, I thought it gave one a means by which to access a network thats 'under' dhcp |
| 20:33.03 | abrotman | luisan: this is pretty much it, but almost no one uses gpm anymore that i know of |
| 20:33.03 | stoned | lejacques, use static ip config or static dhcp setup on your router, tell your dyndns.com settings your router's ip address |
| 20:33.07 | CyberGabber | lejacques: You want to connect from e.g. Work to your PC at home ( which is behind a router with dhcp )? |
| 20:33.09 | baikonur | how can I "cd" into a directory called "-"? |
| 20:33.11 | stoned | lejacques, not a network |
| 20:33.13 | simonrvn | luisan: not much different from x86 except the bootloader |
| 20:33.16 | lejacques | CyberGabber, exactly |
| 20:33.17 | stoned | lejacques, it simply maps a NAME to a ip |
| 20:33.17 | abrotman | baikonur: quite it |
| 20:33.19 | abrotman | quote |
| 20:33.21 | fmr | stoned: its an scsi drive maybee its make a difference ? |
| 20:33.36 | elik | baikonur, did you try escaping and quoting? |
| 20:33.41 | CyberGabber | lejacques: OK, do you know the External IP-adres of you home-pc? |
| 20:33.42 | simonrvn | baikonur: you don't. that plays with your cd history. |
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| 20:33.47 | elik | baikonur, otherwise, that's rather... stupid to name a dir like that |
| 20:33.49 | baikonur | abrotman: i tried it with "cd \-" and "cd '-'" |
| 20:33.53 | lejacques | CyberGabber, yes, at least currently |
| 20:33.57 | c-0-r-e | omg debian in freenode |
| 20:34.01 | c-0-r-e | i didnt know |
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| 20:34.24 | stoned | lejacques, dyndns.com gives you a hostname that forwards all traffic coming to this hostname to your ip. Your router handles your network, so your router is the gateway. You need to tell your router, that if a connection comes in on this port, forward it there. |
| 20:34.26 | peterS | baikonur: cd ./- |
| 20:34.36 | abrotman | baikonur: cd "-" |
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| 20:34.42 | simonrvn | it's a dir? tf? |
| 20:34.58 | stoned | lejacques, dhcp setup makes it hard |
| 20:35.14 | CyberGabber | lejacques: On your Home-pc goto http://whatsmyip.org/, and notice that adres. Put that adres in dyndns as your hostname |
| 20:35.24 | xand | abrotman: that doesn't work, what peterS does |
| 20:35.31 | xand | (assuming bash) |
| 20:35.31 | stoned | lejacques, and just telling dyndns.com to forward all request to your ip doesn't help at all |
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| 20:35.33 | abrotman | he's a cheater! |
| 20:35.37 | peterS | yes. yes, I am. |
| 20:35.44 | baikonur | peterS: thanks. cd ./- works |
| 20:35.44 | abrotman | peterS: wait .. you're the gpm genius ? |
| 20:35.50 | stoned | lejacques, you need to have services running on your network, and ports open and properly forwarded in order to fully utilize |
| 20:35.55 | enouf | how about cd '\-' ? |
| 20:35.58 | peterS | abrotman: I wouldn't say that |
| 20:36.07 | lejacques | CyberGabber, that's what I've done |
| 20:36.08 | peterS | abrotman: I'm the gpm maintainer.. |
| 20:36.10 | stoned | the only thing dyndns.com does is give a name to your ip so you can access it easily |
| 20:36.13 | stoned | that is all |
| 20:36.18 | abrotman | peterS: can you do a middle click with a one-button mouse ? |
| 20:36.19 | stoned | everythin else is just normal regular setup |
| 20:36.22 | stoned | peterS, ! |
| 20:36.32 | stoned | zomg! |
| 20:36.37 | peterS | abrotman: hmmm, not that I know of. you can emulate the middle button if you only have 2, but not if you only have 1 |
| 20:36.39 | simonrvn | &+3 buttons |
| 20:36.40 | ravenbird | sysctl -w dev.mac_hid.mouse_button_emulation=1, and dev.mac_hid.mouse_buttonY_keycode=XX -- where XX is a number you get from showkey (in console only), the key you want, and Y is 2 or 3. however, you'll lose functionality of the selected keys for any other use, or to make the change permanent, add the entries to /etc/sysctl.conf - man sysctl.conf, and you can enable it immediately by running sysctl -p after you've edited sysctl.co |
| 20:36.41 | CyberGabber | lejacques: Is SSHD running on your home-pc ? |
| 20:36.47 | lejacques | CyberGabber, yes |
| 20:36.47 | elik | !tell stoned about lol |
| 20:36.50 | stoned | peterS, dude where have you been!? Whats been up |
| 20:36.51 | kombi | xand: yip, it's just that: can't connect via /path/to/socket. I'd have to find a way to make php5-mysql use another path.. |
| 20:36.56 | simonrvn | abrotman: ^^^ |
| 20:36.57 | abrotman | peterS: oh .. the person that wanted to know left |
| 20:36.58 | stoned | elik, you are irritating me |
| 20:36.59 | enouf | guess not :-P bash: cd: \-: No such file or directory |
| 20:37.01 | peterS | stoned: oh I'm around. I just don't irc that much |
| 20:37.06 | stoned | peterS, I see that |
| 20:37.11 | fmr | stoned: ah its ok now! maybee since I've changed /dev/cdrom by /dev/scd1 in kde configuration and restarted... |
| 20:37.12 | stoned | peterS, hope everything is well |
| 20:37.14 | abrotman | simonrvn: for console ? |
| 20:37.19 | kombi | who's watching the inauguration? |
| 20:37.21 | peterS | stoned: can't complain, can't complain |
| 20:37.23 | simonrvn | both x and console |
| 20:37.25 | abrotman | kombi: wrong channel |
| 20:37.29 | elik | stoned, that's cause you're stoned :P |
| 20:37.35 | abrotman | elik: stop already |
| 20:37.36 | stoned | peterS, awesome. nice to see you again bro :) |
| 20:37.37 | kombi | abrotman: true, true..;) |
| 20:37.51 | simonrvn | abrotman: i already went over this with him/her/it |
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| 20:37.58 | stoned | lol, it |
| 20:38.00 | CyberGabber | lejacques: In your router, you have to look for somthing like 'virtual server' (depends on type of router). Tell it to forward SSH-request from outside to the internal ip-adres of your home-pc |
| 20:38.01 | abrotman | simonrvn: oh ok |
| 20:38.03 | seki | hi |
| 20:38.04 | stoned | hahaha simonrvn you're funny |
| 20:38.05 | enouf | aha! |
| 20:38.06 | enouf | ~$ cd -- - |
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| 20:38.14 | abrotman | that's another way |
| 20:38.17 | enouf | ~/-$ |
| 20:38.31 | lejacques | CyberGabber, pm? |
| 20:38.33 | simonrvn | i'd rmdir that thing... sheesh |
| 20:38.41 | stoned | lejacques, ##networking |
| 20:38.41 | enouf | i did already :-P |
| 20:38.54 | stoned | lejacques, I have already explained this to you |
| 20:39.01 | stoned | lejacques, did I waste my time? |
| 20:39.14 | lejacques | stoned, haha not at all |
| 20:39.14 | CyberGabber | lejacques: NO, better in this channel, it also can help other who follows th treath |
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| 20:39.42 | enouf | fmr: ls -l /dev/cdrom (see what it points to, then check /etc/fstab as well) |
| 20:39.43 | lejacques | stoned, you helped me quite a bit honestly |
| 20:39.58 | stoned | ok |
| 20:40.03 | stoned | enjoy |
| 20:40.15 | lejacques | zomg, got it working |
| 20:40.37 | CyberGabber | lejacques: Is it working now ? |
| 20:41.01 | stoned | so whats your hostname? let me bruteforce your ssh |
| 20:41.04 | stoned | ! dun dun dun |
| 20:41.17 | lejacques | so, my router has a ddns page under the basic options where i just had to input my account info, and now i connect to the name (thank you stoned!) and everything works |
| 20:41.23 | stoned | rochester ny |
| 20:41.33 | lejacques | take a look all you want |
| 20:41.37 | lejacques | new install |
| 20:41.40 | kombi | or, better question yet, how would I make mysql.so use a different path to the socket? |
| 20:41.46 | enouf | fmr: likely /dev/sr1 points to /dev/scd1 or vice-versa, "udevinfo -q all -n /dev/scd1" (or 0) will show a BLOCK: line with a /sys path, that's the system block device for the device, also cat /proc/sys/dev/cdrom/info would help, or should |
| 20:41.48 | stoned | just yankin' yer chain bro ;) |
| 20:41.54 | simonrvn | watches as stoned's host gets null routed into oblivion |
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| 20:42.01 | lejacques | CyberGabber, as far as I know it's working good |
| 20:42.30 | enouf | fmr: if on lenny, udevinfo (and some others) is replaced with udevadm, IINM |
| 20:42.31 | lejacques | Im just worried that it's not going to work so nicely if I try when Im not on the same network |
| 20:42.34 | xand | kombi: is mysql using that socket? or just tcp? |
| 20:42.44 | jelly-home | kombi: ugly workaround: make a symlink to the true path; less ugly, investigate my.cnf |
| 20:42.56 | xand | oh |
| 20:42.59 | newsense | when configuring lvm and luks the order would be disk>physical partition>dm>lvm physical vol>lvm logical volumes correct ? |
| 20:43.31 | kombi | xand: I allways thought port 3306 is all it needs, but the error says socket not found.. |
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| 20:43.51 | CyberGabber | lejacques: Why? you now should always connect to the dyndns-adres, for example ssh you.dyndns.org |
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| 20:44.01 | firespeaker | how do I downgrade a package? |
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| 20:44.15 | dutchfish | newsense, you forgot volumegroup |
| 20:44.20 | pkrumins | Is there really a difference between debian and ubuntu? They seem both to use the same package management. |
| 20:44.23 | pkrumins | (not a troll) |
| 20:44.27 | enouf | fmr: the contents of /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-cd.rules (or similarly numbered file) could also play a role is misassigning CD/DVD drive /dev/names and their symlinks |
| 20:44.34 | lejacques | CyberGabber, well, as my address changes because of dhcp, isn't that going to affect my ability to connect? |
| 20:44.41 | newsense | dutchfish, oh yeah after physical vol than vol group than logival vol right ? |
| 20:44.43 | jelly-home | pkrumins: short answer: yes. |
| 20:44.53 | firespeaker | pkrumins: same package management, different packages |
| 20:44.58 | dutchfish | newsense, phys -> vol group -> lv |
| 20:45.08 | newsense | what about the crypt ? |
| 20:45.13 | stoned | pkrumins, I vaguely remember you... troll? |
| 20:45.16 | firespeaker | pkrumins: they sometimes put things in different places |
| 20:45.16 | simonrvn | pkrumins: dude, it's like fedora and mandriva |
| 20:45.16 | pkrumins | firespeaker, and that's it right? |
| 20:45.26 | simonrvn | stoned: no |
| 20:45.30 | pkrumins | stoned, no way. |
| 20:45.39 | stoned | I was just wondering! |
| 20:45.42 | stoned | thats all! sorry! |
| 20:45.49 | pkrumins | ok :) |
| 20:46.02 | CyberGabber | lejacques: If you want this solved, you need to give yout home-pc a statis adres ( it is also possible to set that adress as a 'reservation' in dhcp, so that adres wont be given to another pc on your lan |
| 20:46.15 | stoned | CyberGabber, I already explained this to him in great detail |
| 20:46.23 | stoned | CyberGabber, you are only repeating this to him in your words now. |
| 20:47.11 | lejacques | stoned, it helps though. Aside from that, dyndns offers some sort of service which updates the hostname to your ip as it changes |
| 20:47.14 | CyberGabber | stoned: Sorry, i think he is afreaid that his dhcp-adres wil change frequently... |
| 20:47.23 | lejacques | as an alternative to setting a static ip |
| 20:47.30 | stoned | lejacques, that has no bearing on your internal network, you still need static mappings |
| 20:47.38 | enouf | newsense: 2 (or many more) physical disks added together make a VG, you won't have a VG without atleast 2 physical disks - IIRC (i might be misremembering some key bit of info there .. dangnabbit) |
| 20:47.41 | pkrumins | oh, can anyone remind me about the tool to manage what rc scripts get run at various runlevels? For example I want to turn off mysql from starting at startup. (On slackware i'd chmod -x /etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld). |
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| 20:47.50 | stoned | rcconf? |
| 20:47.51 | dmoerner | pkrumins: sysv-rc-conf or rcconf |
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| 20:48.09 | pkrumins | aha. |
| 20:48.10 | newsense | say i had a disk setup with lvm and luks and i wanted to add another disk and expand my /home partition is that possible even and is there a guide somewhere ? |
| 20:48.13 | simonrvn | pkrumins: /etc/init.d |
| 20:48.17 | dutchfish | enouf, you need always a volume group for devmapper |
| 20:48.26 | stoned | hey its dutchfish ! |
| 20:48.26 | newsense | enouf, you can have just 1 physical in a vgroup |
| 20:48.30 | stoned | is today sunday? |
| 20:48.30 | pkrumins | simonrvn, you mean chmod -x /etc/init.d/rc.mysql ? |
| 20:48.33 | dutchfish | hi |
| 20:48.38 | pkrumins | there was another tool that ended with .d |
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| 20:48.39 | simonrvn | peterS: hey |
| 20:48.43 | stoned | man today is the first sunday I haven't seen moron sin here |
| 20:48.45 | stoned | in a long time |
| 20:48.47 | stoned | wow |
| 20:48.48 | pkrumins | it was advanced version of rcconf |
| 20:48.53 | simonrvn | pkrumins: no /etc/init.d/mysql |
| 20:48.59 | stoned | it like everyone all the regulars almost are here |
| 20:49.03 | pkrumins | simonrvn, oops, sure. |
| 20:49.08 | peterS | hey simonrvn |
| 20:49.10 | simonrvn | pkrumins: er, "no," rather |
| 20:49.15 | stoned | not too many idiots going bout making crap, except me, Im causing traffic! doh |
| 20:49.26 | pkrumins | simonrvn, yep, i understood :) |
| 20:49.31 | dmoerner | probably because its mlk weekend in the us and everyone is watching the inauguration |
| 20:49.39 | stoned | oh yeah |
| 20:49.59 | enouf | newsense: right - but not less? as in Just a few partitions of one disk? |
| 20:50.03 | stoned | i forgot it was mlk weekend |
| 20:50.20 | pkrumins | i was looking for 'update-rc.d' |
| 20:50.22 | newsense | eouf 1 partition |
| 20:50.27 | stoned | you know it ot but if i get shit legalized, they have a day for me too! |
| 20:50.32 | enouf | newsense: i'd need to really review - some info is eluding me for some reason ... |
| 20:50.37 | stoned | hehe |
| 20:50.52 | newsense | enouf, cant create a logical lvm volume without a group |
| 20:51.30 | dmoerner | stoned: :) |
| 20:51.38 | simonrvn | you need a pv, then a vg, then an lv |
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| 20:51.55 | simonrvn | in that order |
| 20:52.01 | enouf | yeah, but that's not the caveat i worked out that i'm thinking of, it had to do with maybe adding another disk or pvcreate or something - nm .. thanks |
| 20:52.02 | newsense | enouf, yeah i read up on it all day yesterday and made some sense of it even did a softraid + lvm + luks |
| 20:52.16 | enouf | nice |
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| 20:52.30 | pkrumins | when i did my debian installation, i chose 'base system' or 'base package' and deselected 'desktop' -- if i wanted to install the desktop group of packages, how would i do that? |
| 20:52.37 | darkwizzard | hello |
| 20:52.43 | stoned | pkrumins, you don't wanna do that |
| 20:52.52 | stoned | pkrumins, which desktop would you like, gnome or kde |
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| 20:52.58 | darkwizzard | anyone tried to build the X-Fi drivers for creative Soundblaster ? |
| 20:53.00 | stoned | pkrumins, if you still insist, man tasksel |
| 20:53.01 | pkrumins | stoned, gnome. |
| 20:53.06 | stoned | pkrumins, /msg dpkg install gnome |
| 20:53.10 | darkwizzard | http://pastebin.ca/1311908 |
| 20:53.11 | pkrumins | oic. |
| 20:53.16 | Vorbote | pkrumins: you use tasksel |
| 20:53.20 | pkrumins | stoned, not gonna do it, was just curious. |
| 20:53.20 | stoned | pkrumins, may I suggest against gnome and advise for kde? |
| 20:53.24 | pkrumins | will look what tasksel is. |
| 20:53.30 | pkrumins | stoned, you sure can |
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| 20:53.31 | Vorbote | pkrumins: As in "tasksel install gnome-desktop" |
| 20:53.47 | simonrvn | nothing wrong with disabling the desktop task. sheesh. |
| 20:53.52 | pkrumins | gnome looked really nice. |
| 20:54.04 | stoned | simonrvn, no he wanted to use it |
| 20:54.06 | pkrumins | simonrvn, why do you advise kde? |
| 20:54.08 | stoned | simonrvn, not disable it |
| 20:54.10 | simonrvn | less crap to install at once. |
| 20:54.29 | stoned | so I told him he doesn't want to use tasksel desktop task |
| 20:54.38 | pkrumins | right. |
| 20:54.38 | Vorbote | pkrumins: The nice thing about tasksel is that you can install and deinstall whole package groups. |
| 20:54.41 | stoned | and also, gnome imo is ugly, nasty, and horribly designed |
| 20:55.04 | stoned | pkrumins, kde3.5 is extremely configurable, non bloat, extremely well designed and consistent across all apps |
| 20:55.07 | simonrvn | iyo |
| 20:55.07 | Vorbote | pkrumins: like "tasksel install kde-desktop" will install KDE. |
| 20:55.11 | stoned | imo yes |
| 20:55.17 | simonrvn | hehe, they are both bloat dude |
| 20:55.21 | stoned | no |
| 20:55.23 | stoned | they are not |
| 20:55.47 | stoned | neither is bloat, they are simply NOT window managers, they are full blowsn desktop env only as big as you'd like |
| 20:56.08 | stoned | gnome-core and kde-core are very very usable on 128mb ram on pIII 866mhz |
| 20:56.10 | pkrumins | good times. |
| 20:56.11 | darkwizzard | anyone ? |
| 20:56.21 | stoned | and should do just fine on any modern system with 512 ram and a p4 cpu |
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| 20:56.45 | dmoerner | darkwizzard: do you have linux-hearders-$(uname -r) installed |
| 20:56.48 | dmoerner | also don't compile as root |
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| 20:57.18 | stoned | fakeroot! |
| 20:57.19 | dutchfish | darkwizzard, did you install buildessential and kernel-headers for your kernel? |
| 20:57.27 | eekee | I don't think kde core is remotely usable in 64MB, going on experience wiht an ubuntu live cd. |
| 20:57.43 | maligor | stoned, KDE has too many buttons. |
| 20:57.49 | stoned | you have too many buttons! |
| 20:57.52 | stoned | shaddup |
| 20:57.54 | stoned | :) |
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| 20:58.45 | maligor | maybe someone will write a light qt DE now also what with the license change |
| 20:59.05 | eekee | yeah... |
| 20:59.14 | stoned | lxde? |
| 20:59.20 | stoned | xfce? |
| 20:59.20 | maligor | isn't that gtk |
| 20:59.23 | stoned | (not qt) |
| 20:59.28 | eekee | xfce is gtk+2 |
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| 20:59.52 | simonrvn | stoned: kde hasn't even paid attention to low resource systems, instead they went the way of more bloat (QED kde4) |
| 20:59.54 | maligor | so is lxde afaik |
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| 21:00.08 | stoned | simonrvn, I agree, fuck kde4 up its bloated fat ass |
| 21:00.16 | stoned | simonrvn, kde3 ftw |
| 21:00.45 | synaptic | Agree with that |
| 21:00.49 | maligor | I expect kde4 will fit in my 4gb ram |
| 21:00.54 | stoned | lol |
| 21:01.03 | stoned | maligor, you can only hope! |
| 21:01.16 | simonrvn | here we go with the e-penis stuff again |
| 21:01.16 | maligor | actually I quite like KDE4, but it's a bit too buggy still |
| 21:01.25 | synaptic | Everytime I try KDE4 it turns into a huge failure |
| 21:01.28 | maligor | Using GNOME |
| 21:01.35 | Guerin | so, I thought kde4 was all faster and shit |
| 21:01.37 | stoned | I dont mind it, its not bloat for my 3.5ghz 4gb ram core 2 |
| 21:01.39 | newsense | anyways got a second disk,id like to add to my lvm group to expand /home ( hda>hda2>hda2_crypt>lvm physical volume>lvm group "devious">lvm logical volume "devious-home") how do i add hdb to this scenario ? |
| 21:01.43 | eekee | kde4 will buil & run in 4gb, but doesn't seem to provide much by default. O.o Not that I've ever given much time to testing DEs |
| 21:02.11 | maligor | kde4 has some pretty nice integration overall |
| 21:02.19 | stoned | Guerin, hey whats up |
| 21:02.26 | simonrvn | integration with that? itself? |
| 21:02.28 | stoned | Guerin, eh.. so they claim |
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| 21:02.35 | maligor | simonrvn, heh, yes |
| 21:02.35 | stoned | simonrvn, HAHAHAHA |
| 21:02.57 | maligor | simonrvn, I rather mean the desktop widget bling ect |
| 21:02.58 | eekee | lxde is gtk+2 |
| 21:03.00 | simonrvn | s/that/what/ |
| 21:03.13 | stoned | I don't mind bling at all actually |
| 21:03.15 | stoned | I like bling |
| 21:03.21 | Guerin | stoned: saw one of the true remaining guitar heroes the other night |
| 21:03.22 | stoned | but not at the expense of functionality |
| 21:03.38 | Guerin | stoned: he was schoolin' younglings twice his age in how to rock |
| 21:03.38 | simonrvn | maligor: yes it sure does, but i dunno, i don't find that stuff very useful, not the way they set it up. |
| 21:03.38 | maligor | kde4 has those fancy transitional effects too |
| 21:03.45 | Guerin | err, half his age |
| 21:03.49 | stoned | Guerin, I hate that game, I played it for 1 hour one time, and next day I was fucking up trying to play the actual guitar, anyway this is in #debian-chat |
| 21:03.52 | stoned | ot here |
| 21:03.53 | Guerin | has just woken up, like |
| 21:03.56 | simonrvn | Guerin: heh, i was wondering ;) |
| 21:04.03 | stoned | what time is it in your neck of the woods? |
| 21:04.07 | simonrvn | stoned: NOT the game |
| 21:04.16 | stoned | uhm |
| 21:04.19 | Guerin | stoned: no, not the fucking game, you tool. An actual real-live guitar hero, the sort of person the game makes you think you are |
| 21:04.26 | stoned | what? |
| 21:04.29 | stoned | wtf are you on about? |
| 21:04.30 | stoned | link me |
| 21:04.37 | dmoerner | he saw a good guitarist live |
| 21:04.40 | stoned | oh |
| 21:04.42 | dmoerner | that's all he means i think |
| 21:04.43 | Guerin | ... |
| 21:04.43 | stoned | seriously man |
| 21:04.50 | maligor | I even made a grey classic panel theme for kde4, strange how it felt better with a grey panel |
| 21:04.52 | simonrvn | there is no url ;) |
| 21:04.54 | stoned | why you gotta talk in riddles? |
| 21:05.00 | stoned | just say normal shit man fuck |
| 21:05.10 | simonrvn | ... |
| 21:05.17 | stoned | no Guerin not you |
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| 21:05.36 | maligor | have to test it out again once they get 4.2 in experimental |
| 21:05.53 | stoned | wonder when 7.4xorg will get into sid |
| 21:06.05 | maligor | after lenny probably |
| 21:06.07 | Guerin | maligor: kde has had its once-yearly trial from me this year |
| 21:06.08 | darkwizzard | ok. works. thanks |
| 21:06.13 | dmoerner | s/probably/definitely/ |
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| 21:06.20 | simonrvn | when xstrike force has time, and lenny releases. |
| 21:06.20 | Guerin | i'll see if it's any use again next year |
| 21:06.21 | stoned | well yeah |
| 21:06.26 | stoned | thats the way progressions work :) |
| 21:06.45 | maligor | been using the xorg 7.4 experimental packages myself |
| 21:06.56 | simonrvn | any differences? |
| 21:06.56 | stoned | maligor, how is the quality |
| 21:07.01 | stoned | maligor, any issues? |
| 21:07.02 | maligor | hasn't crashed :P |
| 21:07.07 | stoned | hm |
| 21:07.13 | maligor | I've used it quite a while now |
| 21:07.14 | stoned | I built everything from git myself |
| 21:07.28 | simonrvn | the x stuff in exp. usually doesn't |
| 21:07.31 | stoned | I have not yet tried experimental packages |
| 21:07.33 | maligor | can't say I notice any real difference to the old Xorg |
| 21:07.36 | simonrvn | crash i mean |
| 21:07.41 | stoned | hm |
| 21:07.49 | stoned | maligor, you don't know of the newer features! |
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| 21:07.54 | simonrvn | doesn't bother then |
| 21:07.59 | maligor | aside that you need to use new driver ABI |
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| 21:09.10 | stoned | debian should advertise on tv |
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| 21:09.43 | stoned | public service announcement! did you know that you don't have to use windows? did you know that there are alternatives? |
| 21:09.47 | stoned | etc. etc. |
| 21:09.48 | stoned | I dunno |
| 21:09.54 | abrotman | enter ? |
| 21:09.56 | stoned | would probably cost a lot of money |
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| 21:09.57 | stoned | sorry! |
| 21:10.04 | simonrvn | stoned: shaddup please. |
| 21:10.15 | stoned | my lips are zipped. |
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| 21:10.17 | notassociated | i was here earlier today. how can i get a transcript of my last session *now*? |
| 21:10.27 | simonrvn | thank you |
| 21:10.29 | stoned | notassociated, does your irc client log? |
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| 21:11.03 | notassociated | i am using xchat |
| 21:11.05 | stoned | notassociated, was logging enabled? if not then I dunno if this channel is publically logged |
| 21:11.16 | stoned | xchat doesn't log by default |
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| 21:12.32 | PleXuS | hi all |
| 21:12.40 | PleXuS | anyone used ZFS on linux? |
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| 21:13.05 | abrotman | it's in FUSE |
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| 21:14.01 | pkrumins | oops, got disconnected. |
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| 21:14.06 | aoeu | why is it that my debian system didn't take long to install on a CF card, but takes forever to boot? it's been 15 minutes and it still hasn't past the grub stage. |
| 21:14.18 | pkrumins | talking about kde and gnome, i also did not like that it had so many buttons |
| 21:14.21 | Guerin | aoeu: it's not going to boot. |
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| 21:14.34 | pkrumins | it = kde. |
| 21:14.48 | stoned | what buttons!? |
| 21:14.56 | Guerin | aoeu: the grub stage should never take more than 30 seconds unless you halted it (by pushing a key on the menu screen, for instance) |
| 21:15.04 | stoned | it has as many buttons as required, neither more nor less |
| 21:15.05 | PleXuS | abrotman, is it stable to use? |
| 21:15.14 | pkrumins | stoned, gnome has almost one |
| 21:15.17 | abrotman | PleXuS: i haven't used it |
| 21:15.27 | stoned | yeh cuz it blows |
| 21:15.29 | aoeu | what could i have done wrong that it won't boot? |
| 21:15.29 | pkrumins | stoned, where as kde usually has 10 or so |
| 21:15.30 | abrotman | PleXuS: there is a #zfs you might want to ask or ##linux |
| 21:15.39 | stoned | buttons on the panel? |
| 21:15.44 | stoned | what buttons man? |
| 21:15.47 | PleXuS | abrotman, really? :) didn't known that |
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| 21:16.02 | pkrumins | stoned, yeah in the panel. |
| 21:16.07 | Rawplayer | can anyone explain to me why the dvd images are 383mb big? |
| 21:16.09 | stoned | pkrumins, you can right click and remove! |
| 21:16.13 | Rawplayer | instead of 4.4gb |
| 21:16.14 | abrotman | Rawplayer: URL ? |
| 21:16.20 | stoned | pkrumins, kde3 is like 20 times more customizable than gnome |
| 21:16.32 | stoned | like 20 bajillion times |
| 21:16.36 | pkrumins | stoned, didn't know. i'll install and try |
| 21:16.43 | stoned | give it a shot, don't like it, use gnome |
| 21:16.44 | Rawplayer | abrotman: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r6/i386/iso-dvd |
| 21:16.46 | maligor | stoned, unless you want to have the panels in different backgrounds |
| 21:16.51 | pkrumins | stoned, tell me how to do it again, i'll install base system, and then apt-get install kde? |
| 21:16.54 | maligor | stoned, or different settings on different panels |
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| 21:17.02 | stoned | pkrumins, /msg dpkg install kde |
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| 21:17.04 | abrotman | Rawplayer: it says they're 4.4GB |
| 21:17.06 | jonaskoelker | what's RoQA short for? |
| 21:17.10 | Rawplayer | abrotman: i know, d/l it |
| 21:17.12 | maligor | stoned, it's completely unable to do it |
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| 21:17.23 | aoeu | would booting from a floppy make the booting faster? |
| 21:17.24 | pkrumins | nice |
| 21:17.26 | pkrumins | stoned, installing |
| 21:17.26 | abrotman | Rawplayer: but why not use the netinst ? |
| 21:17.28 | stoned | maligor, it can |
| 21:17.30 | pkrumins | gonna try right away. |
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| 21:17.39 | maligor | stoned, really? I never managed |
| 21:17.42 | stoned | install kde-core |
| 21:17.51 | stoned | then install the rest as you need, per app |
| 21:17.56 | stoned | dont' install kde or you get tons of bloatwre |
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| 21:18.15 | pkrumins | i has netinstall cd. |
| 21:18.34 | stoned | pkrumins, /msg dpkg ig |
| 21:18.52 | pierre_le | hi. i'de like to force ssh to be unencrypted, use a null cypher in both putty/sshd (for pure performance purpose). but i dont find. help welcome |
| 21:18.55 | Rawplayer | abrotman: explain to me why its not 4.4gb |
| 21:19.13 | abrotman | Rawplayer: do you really want me to download it? |
| 21:19.20 | pkrumins | stoned, yeah but i don't have any problems with netinstall. |
| 21:19.24 | Rawplayer | abrotman: click on the iso |
| 21:19.25 | pkrumins | it was as natural as any other install |
| 21:19.28 | dutchfish | aoeu, there are 2 possibilities that can make booting so long: 1, your flascard is very slow or bad 2. you are logging on the flash too (thats not that good) |
| 21:19.33 | stoned | pkrumins, just saying, ther eis the install guide :) |
| 21:19.34 | enouf | it's an update |
| 21:19.36 | Rawplayer | then your d/l window tells you that its not 4.4 gb |
| 21:19.39 | Guerin | pierre_le: wtf. |
| 21:19.48 | Rawplayer | you dont need to d/l the whole file |
| 21:19.50 | stoned | use telnet |
| 21:19.50 | pkrumins | stoned, thanks. |
| 21:19.52 | Guerin | pierre_le: why use ssh for that purpose? |
| 21:19.53 | stoned | and call it a day |
| 21:19.55 | abrotman | Rawplayer: wget says it is 4.4GB |
| 21:20.06 | Guerin | use telnet, nc, whatever |
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| 21:20.27 | stoned | pkrumins, np |
| 21:20.38 | pierre_le | but i'de like to keep native ssh port forwrding features |
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| 21:20.56 | pkrumins | what was the way to send a message to all users? |
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| 21:21.04 | enouf | wall |
| 21:21.09 | pkrumins | thanks |
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| 21:21.58 | Eulex | pierre_le, run telnetd on port 22? |
| 21:22.05 | enouf | recently figured out that wallops is wall+ops, not beatings O_o |
| 21:22.13 | Tramp | pierre_le: neither ssh nor sshd on Debian support null cipher. Best performance is probably with Blowfish. |
| 21:22.13 | Rawplayer | abrotman: interesting, webbrowser is telling met that its 384mb big, wget tells me that its 4.4G |
| 21:22.31 | enouf | -arcfour! depending |
| 21:22.50 | stoned | Rawplayer, what the headers of the file request |
| 21:22.54 | enouf | someone know about OpenSSH HPN? it's quite older now |
| 21:23.00 | stoned | Rawplayer, watch* |
| 21:23.08 | abrotman | Rawplayer: blame the browser :) |
| 21:23.20 | Rawplayer | abrotman: the file also is 384mb |
| 21:23.23 | Rawplayer | what i have downloaded |
| 21:23.26 | enouf | i really really looked hard to see if in Debian some months back - i couldn't tell .. or i found some bugs |
| 21:23.29 | Rawplayer | but the name is from the dvd iso |
| 21:23.44 | abrotman | Rawplayer: so wget fails also ? |
| 21:23.49 | Rawplayer | no |
| 21:23.53 | abrotman | oh ok |
| 21:24.05 | Rawplayer | i did right click on the iso, copy url then paste it into wget |
| 21:24.09 | Rawplayer | then its 4.4gb |
| 21:24.29 | Rawplayer | when i paste the same copy into the browser |
| 21:24.35 | Rawplayer | its 383mb |
| 21:24.36 | Rawplayer | lol |
| 21:24.54 | Stuckey | Hello |
| 21:25.03 | pierre_le | is it possible to force a short key for AES, like 64 instead of 256bits? |
| 21:25.05 | abrotman | Rawplayer: cute ... |
| 21:25.23 | Stuckey | I'm running Debian Lenny and am having a problem with a PPPoE connection. Does anyone know anything about PPPoE DSL connections/MTU settings? |
| 21:25.44 | dutchfish | Stuckey, 1512 over here |
| 21:25.49 | stoned | 1492 |
| 21:25.55 | stoned | 1500-8bits |
| 21:26.05 | Stuckey | Okay, I don't understand what this MTU is... I've never used PPPoE before |
| 21:26.12 | stoned | maximum transfer unit |
| 21:26.12 | Tramp | pierre_le: no |
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| 21:26.21 | pierre_le | ty |
| 21:26.27 | pkrumins | where do 8bits go? |
| 21:26.31 | stoned | lookup tcp ip on wikipedia |
| 21:26.39 | Tramp | pierre_le: 128 is minimum size for aes |
| 21:26.40 | pkrumins | MTU is 1512 with ethernet headers, 1500 without. |
| 21:26.41 | stoned | pkrumins, I forgot, I read this a while ago |
| 21:26.45 | Stuckey | I ran a speedtest on this computer and another computer on this network which runs windows... and the windows computer was significantly faster. |
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| 21:26.55 | pkrumins | i read tcp/ip illustrated, i hope i remember it right. |
| 21:27.00 | _stack | ....... |
| 21:27.03 | dutchfish | pkrumins, bingo |
| 21:27.05 | _stack | mtu is 1500 |
| 21:27.07 | stoned | pkrumins, i could be remember incorrectly |
| 21:27.25 | _stack | with ethernet payload the packet is 1512 |
| 21:27.30 | enouf | thank you stoned |
| 21:27.30 | stoned | but I'm sure I read that for dialup 1500-8bits = 1492 MTU |
| 21:27.34 | _stack | but it dipends on the ethernet "version" |
| 21:27.34 | stoned | I don't know why |
| 21:27.43 | stoned | enouf, for what? |
| 21:27.45 | pkrumins | stoned, no way, for dialup you have much smaller MTU. |
| 21:27.51 | enouf | ~$ watch tail /proc/net/dev <== martiiin real man's way ;-) |
| 21:27.56 | pkrumins | stoned, it's a ppp with MTU something like 384 bytes iirc. |
| 21:28.11 | pkrumins | i had a google interview recently and had to drill all this stuff in me. |
| 21:28.12 | enouf | stoned: i was thinking tail, and completetly forgot "watch" |
| 21:28.33 | stoned | heh |
| 21:28.41 | stoned | whats a fake man? |
| 21:28.46 | maligor | google says: For Ethernet, the MTU is 1500 bytes, for PPPoE 1492, dial-up connections often use 576. |
| 21:29.04 | stoned | yeh, I knew i fucking remember that # from somewhere |
| 21:29.11 | enouf | stoned: well, like when we say real people browse the intarw3bs with bash |
| 21:29.12 | stoned | I'm a pothead but damn, I still know my shit |
| 21:29.14 | stoned | : |
| 21:29.29 | aoeu | dutchfish, it won't even load the kernel image and start booting. that's how slow it is. maybe it has something to do with the computer's bios? |
| 21:29.43 | Stuckey | Okay so what should I do to fix my internet connection? |
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| 21:30.09 | dutchfish | aoeu, what kernel? if 2.6.26-1 (lenny) try edd=off as a kernel line |
| 21:30.09 | enouf | stoned: is correct, i used 14xx on Dialup |
| 21:30.14 | pkrumins | anyone tried xmonad? |
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| 21:30.32 | stoned | maligor, thanks for confirming |
| 21:30.44 | maligor | well, that was from dslreports |
| 21:30.48 | enouf | there was even a smal winturd util that you could alter all that with - tcpsomething iirc |
| 21:30.51 | maligor | who knows how accurate it is |
| 21:31.19 | stoned | well I remember talking to bellsouth when I was at louisiana state univer back in 2000 |
| 21:31.27 | stoned | I had bellsouth DSL and it sucked ass |
| 21:31.35 | stoned | I remember |
| 21:31.52 | maligor | good thing you don't have to mess around ppp here with dsl |
| 21:31.54 | stoned | 1492 I remember that # |
| 21:32.03 | stoned | I got cable now! |
| 21:32.09 | Stuckey | maligor, where are you located? |
| 21:32.22 | maligor | finland, I think my host betrays me |
| 21:32.33 | stoned | finland kicks ass |
| 21:32.39 | aoeu | wow it's really fast now. i disabled udma in the bios, and its booting up instantly |
| 21:32.52 | stoned | !udma |
| 21:32.52 | dpkg | udma is probably a new fast (66/100 MB/s burst) standard for DMA transfers, mostly used by modern harddisks. The standard is also called UATA, ATA/66 and ATA/100. To get it working with 2.2 kernels, you'll need a kernel patch, recent 2.3 and 2.4-test kernels have support built in. A howto can be found at http://ldp.nllgg.nl/HOWTO/mini/Ultra-DMA.html, or UDMA 133 is the new standard for harddisks bigger than 137GB. its using now 48bit LBA instead of ... |
| 21:32.54 | maligor | the buggers in sweden have faster and cheaper pipes ;) |
| 21:33.04 | stoned | yeh, whats up with sweden man |
| 21:33.12 | stoned | they usually always have the fastest internet stuff |
| 21:33.16 | maligor | government sponsored |
| 21:33.21 | stoned | I see |
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| 21:33.40 | stoned | ahh thats what udma is |
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| 21:36.49 | martiiin | What is the fastest command to see what kernel version you have? |
| 21:36.55 | RvGaTe | uname -a |
| 21:37.39 | martiiin | And what is the newest version currently? |
| 21:37.56 | newsense | uname -r |
| 21:38.05 | zash_ | martiiin: http://kernel.org/ |
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| 21:38.13 | martiiin | 2.6.18-6-686 |
| 21:38.15 | martiiin | i have that one |
| 21:38.40 | abrotman | martiiin: why do you want a newer one ? |
| 21:39.04 | martiiin | http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_28 |
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| 21:39.41 | abrotman | martiiin: why do you want a newer one ? |
| 21:40.03 | martiiin | I like to keep my stuff up to date |
| 21:40.18 | dutchfish | no, the fastest one to get the kernel version is sysctl -n kernel.osrelease (less sys resources) btw |
| 21:40.51 | stoned | RvGaTe, ! |
| 21:40.56 | RvGaTe | stoned, !!!! |
| 21:40.58 | RvGaTe | buddy |
| 21:40.58 | stoned | omg! |
| 21:41.03 | stoned | *HUG* |
| 21:41.06 | RvGaTe | you're still alive! |
| 21:41.08 | RvGaTe | *hugz* |
| 21:41.09 | stoned | as are you! |
| 21:41.13 | stoned | #debian-chat |
| 21:41.14 | RvGaTe | haha, yes ! |
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| 21:47.16 | S-i-A | why peazip is not available in debian package? peazip is absolute free gui extractor under GPL. PeaZip is cross platform, available as portable and installable software for 32 and 64 bit Windows (9x, 2000, XP, Vista) and Linux (PeaZip is a desktop neutral application). http://peazip.sourceforge.net/ |
| 21:47.56 | stoned | S-i-A, you can file a RFP |
| 21:48.02 | stoned | S-i-A, or file an IT |
| 21:48.08 | dutchfish | S-i-A, prolly because ark already does the same, i dunno |
| 21:48.10 | stoned | dangmit, file an ITP yourself |
| 21:48.24 | stoned | there is ark, file-roller for gnome |
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| 21:48.58 | S-i-A | stoned from file-roller? |
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| 21:49.09 | stoned | S-i-A, is you wish to see something GPL which is NOT in debian, you can either 1) file a request for it to be packaged and then be patient, OR, 2) you can file an ITP intent to package, learn to make a package and maintain that packge and get it into debian yourself |
| 21:49.17 | Ian_Daniher|XO | is it possible to have a computer (laptop) connected to two networks simultaneously and assign a specific program(deluge) a specific interface to use? |
| 21:49.44 | S-i-A | stoned: the package is available! |
| 21:49.52 | hovis | Every time I use sudo I get: "sudo: unable to resolve host haruko". What's wrong here? |
| 21:50.01 | stoned | S-i-A, good for you then |
| 21:50.21 | S-i-A | stoned: thans |
| 21:50.24 | stoned | yup |
| 21:50.25 | S-i-A | thanks* |
| 21:51.01 | stoned | Ian_Daniher|XO, the formet is possible, the latter is uhm.. ask in #deluge |
| 21:51.09 | Ian_Daniher|XO | hovis: I had that problem - edit /etc/hostname |
| 21:51.12 | Ian_Daniher|XO | or /etc/hosts |
| 21:52.01 | Ian_Daniher|XO | stoned: so there's no system-level interface assignment that you know of? |
| 21:52.10 | dutchfish | hovis, or check hostname -f |
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| 21:52.36 | stoned | ask in #deluge |
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| 21:52.54 | stoned | yes one machine can be on two seperate networks with 2 seperate NIC |
| 21:53.09 | stoned | ask for deluge, 3rd time, I don't know, ask in #deluge |
| 21:53.10 | enouf | use route tables |
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| 21:53.55 | hovis | Ian_Daniher|XO: dutchfish: thanks for replying. `hostname -f` displays haruko. /etc/hostname is identical. /etc/hosts shows two IPv4 entries, one of which is 127.0.1.1 haruko.lan. should that be just haruko? |
| 21:54.09 | stoned | yes |
| 21:54.40 | dutchfish | hovis, your /etc/hosts is wrong then i gues hostname -f should look like host.domain.extension |
| 21:55.23 | hovis | interesting, does debian have some sort of tool for configuring these things? I don't have a doman, so don't know what to put in... |
| 21:55.38 | dutchfish | hovis, sure man hostname |
| 21:55.45 | hovis | hehe, of course |
| 21:55.47 | hovis | ty |
| 21:58.05 | enouf | hovis: there's two man hostname, 1 and 7 |
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| 21:58.27 | hovis | enouf: a-ha, tyvm |
| 21:59.18 | dutchfish | hovis, at least you should need in /etc/hosts soemthing like 127.0.0.1 hostname.domain.extension hostname |
| 21:59.31 | Stuckey | Hello I'm having a problem with an internet connection made with PPPoE. It's slower than it should be; could anyone offer me some help? |
| 21:59.32 | enouf | man -a hostname will show you both (one after the other) but 'apropos hostname' or 'man -k hostname' or even 'whereis hostname' is a great way to find stuff |
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| 22:00.39 | enouf | man 1 hostname comes from the hostname pkg, and 7 from manpages pkg |
| 22:01.05 | enouf | that's why i like whereis, then i feed that to dlocate - and bingo ;-) |
| 22:01.23 | abrotman | man -k hostname ? |
| 22:01.49 | abrotman | or apropros |
| 22:01.51 | Stuckey | I'm running Debian Lenny and am having a problem with a PPPoE connection. Does anyone know anything about PPPoE DSL connections/MTU settings? |
| 22:01.51 | enouf | doesn't tell you full path to feed dlocate |
| 22:01.54 | abrotman | erm .. apropos |
| 22:01.58 | enouf | that also doesn't tell you full path to feed dlocate |
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| 22:02.26 | enouf | though i guess one could use the hostname.x.gz only perhaps |
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| 22:02.32 | enouf | lesssee |
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| 22:02.54 | enouf | ew .. heh |
| 22:03.01 | enouf | that also returned; kdelibs4c2a: /usr/share/man/man1/kdontchangethehostname.1.gz |
| 22:03.06 | enouf | hahaha |
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| 22:04.44 | enouf | Stuckey: all i can say is do "udevinfo a -p /sys/class/net/ethX" for info on your mtu and other things-- likely ethtool as well perhaps |
| 22:05.12 | enouf | typo |
| 22:05.17 | enouf | use -a |
| 22:05.31 | enouf | naturally, solve for X there |
| 22:05.44 | enouf | or replace with whatever the iface name is |
| 22:05.50 | Stuckey | Got it, thanks. |
| 22:06.05 | Stuckey | Someone just replied to me on a newsgroup saying that I shouldn't change PPP settings because that has to do with the ISP |
| 22:07.17 | enouf | Stuckey: do; grep /etc/bash.completion .bashrc do you have a # in front of each of those? |
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| 22:08.05 | enouf | erm /etc/bash_completion, but the '.' works there |
| 22:08.19 | Stuckey | enouf, What exactly do you want me to run? |
| 22:08.34 | enouf | Stuckey: do; "grep /etc/bash.completion .bashrc" |
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| 22:09.09 | abrotman | tangent! |
| 22:09.28 | enouf | Stuckey: do you have a # in front of each of those two lines returned? |
| 22:09.35 | Stuckey | http://paste.debian.net/26327/ |
| 22:09.36 | Stuckey | enouf, No |
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| 22:09.55 | enouf | Stuckey: ok, then you can do man ppp[TAB][TAB] ;-) |
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| 22:10.19 | enouf | and also do dpkg -L <any-pppoe-pkgname> |
| 22:10.30 | palx | Hi there...Anybody knows Dr scheme? |
| 22:10.34 | enouf | and also do dpkg -L <any-pppoe-pkgname> | grep doc |
| 22:10.42 | Brack10 | if a shell script requires you to run it from the directory it resides in, do you HAVE to cd to the directory first, or is there a way to run it from it's directory in one command? |
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| 22:11.34 | palx | I tried to install Dr Scheme but I dont know what is the way to invocate |
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| 22:13.08 | enouf | Stuckey: have you tried ##networking ? |
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| 22:13.34 | Stuckey | enouf, What do you mean try ##networking? |
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| 22:13.56 | enouf | Stuckey: the channel - do /join ##networking |
| 22:14.03 | Stuckey | Oh so it's two #? |
| 22:14.09 | enouf | some are, yes |
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| 22:14.33 | enouf | many that are two will redirect you to them if you try with one # |
| 22:14.50 | enouf | and a one #name doesn't exist or ... |
| 22:15.19 | enouf | ask #freenode for more about that |
| 22:17.28 | n0mad | help second x :/ but but :/ http://pastebin.com/d45560f57 |
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| 22:18.53 | nivanson | hi, i have a folder with alot of content. i mistakenly ran rm * in that folder. can i get those files back anyhow? using ext3 |
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| 22:19.33 | simonrvn | nivanson: from your backups |
| 22:19.35 | Tramp | !tell nivanson about ext3grep |
| 22:19.44 | nivanson | thanks for the help! |
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| 22:20.03 | Tramp | but backups are much better, I admit |
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| 22:23.00 | Shadur | Does anyone know if the 180.22 nvidia drivers from experimental will work in unstable without breaking too much along the way? |
| 22:23.11 | Stuckey | Shadur, it works without breaking too much. |
| 22:23.32 | Stuckey | Shadur, you mean this driver is in a debian repository???? |
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| 22:32.49 | pablo | hi, if a package has a wrong dependency, should i report it as a bug? |
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| 22:33.22 | Guerin | pablo: yes. |
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| 22:34.21 | n0mad | could someone advise me ? http://pastebin.com/d45560f57 |
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| 22:38.01 | moni | hello, Debian incorporates a web file manager? |
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| 22:42.41 | bolt | wtf? this howto thingy i ran into is suggesting to put the swap file (windows) on a ramdisk... |
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| 22:42.52 | Eulex | moni, what's a web file manager? |
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| 22:43.13 | Eulex | bolt, haha |
| 22:43.31 | Eulex | bolt, thus you can swap recursively :D |
| 22:43.37 | bolt | indeed |
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| 22:47.09 | amikrop | Can audacious play wav files, and if yes, how? |
| 22:48.10 | Eulex | amikrop, I |
| 22:48.19 | Eulex | amikrop, I'd be very surprised if it can't. |
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| 22:49.22 | amikrop | Eulex: It doesn't with my current configuration. |
| 22:49.35 | amikrop | Eulex: Do I need some extra codecs (which package)? |
| 22:49.40 | moni | Eulex: A web application that lets you move, delete and upload files. |
| 22:50.12 | Eulex | moni, which protocol? ftp? |
| 22:50.27 | Eulex | uh, web application....? as in running inside a web browser??? |
| 22:50.30 | abrotman | Eulex: web one |
| 22:50.41 | Eulex | well, there's firezilla |
| 22:52.13 | Eulex | amikrop, wav files can either be uncompressed or have some simple compression. what does 'file' output when you run it on the file? |
| 22:53.01 | amikrop | Eulex: $ file ÎλιÏ\ ήÏοÏ
\ 26.wav |
| 22:53.02 | amikrop | ÎÎ»Î¹Ï Î®ÏοÏ
26.wav: RIFF (little-endian) data, WAVE audio, Microsoft PCM, 16 bit, mono 8000 Hz |
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| 22:53.40 | Eulex | amikrop, completely uncompressed. should work very well, what happens when you try to play it? |
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| 22:54.00 | Brack10 | HI |
| 22:54.06 | Eulex | (also, the term "Microsoft PCM" is hideous) |
| 22:54.38 | moni | Eulex: The important thing is that from a web browser can handle a file server, ftp voucher. |
| 22:54.47 | Brack10 | does proftpd have a speed limit configured by default? I'm transferring a file accross a 10 Mb/s LAN and I'm only get 1 Mb/s |
| 22:54.50 | amikrop | Eulex: what do you mean hideous? |
| 22:55.24 | abrotman | Brack10: MB or Mb ? |
| 22:55.25 | Eulex | amikrop, that's just an unrelated note. PCM means pulse code modulation. |
| 22:55.46 | Brack10 | abrotman: Mb |
| 22:55.55 | Eulex | moni, a web interface for moving and uploading files on a server? |
| 22:56.14 | Brack10 | abrotman: The debian box has an old NIC in it |
| 22:56.26 | abrotman | Brack10: check to make sure it's in 10/100Mb FD |
| 22:56.35 | moni | <Eulex> yes |
| 22:56.40 | amikrop | Eulex: I can play it with VLC. |
| 22:56.57 | Eulex | amikrop, ok |
| 22:57.14 | Brack10 | abrotman: ifconfig doesn't say, what would? |
| 22:57.27 | abrotman | mii-tool or ethtool |
| 22:57.47 | abrotman | which would work so much better here if i were plugged in :) |
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| 22:58.04 | amikrop | Eulex: So, any hints why I can't with audacious? :P |
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| 22:58.31 | Eulex | amikrop, I have no idea, and you haven't defined "can't". why can't you? what happens when you attempt to? |
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| 22:59.08 | Brack10 | abrotman: nevermind, it's getting 866 KB/s |
| 22:59.14 | Brack10 | :) |
| 22:59.19 | abrotman | see! |
| 22:59.26 | abrotman | jeez .. i'm not totally insane! |
| 22:59.41 | Brack10 | I'd still like to know how to find out how to know what mode the card is in |
| 22:59.43 | Eulex | moni, did a little search, might want to take a look at egroupware-filemanager |
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| 23:00.04 | Eulex | hah this was funny |
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| 23:00.30 | abrotman | that's kind of overkill |
| 23:01.13 | chlue | Hello is pinning in /etc/apt/preferences broken for Debian etch? The same content that works fine on my system seem to only produce "Syntax error /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/preferences:11: Extra junk at end of file" there. |
| 23:01.15 | amikrop | Eulex: audacious opens with that file, but does not play it. not even if I click on "play" |
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| 23:01.24 | Eulex | I have apt sources from etch, lenny, sid and experimental, but preferred release set to lenny, and installed a package. and aptitude fetched one package from etch. took a little look at it, and turns out the same version was in both etch, lenny and sid. |
| 23:02.16 | moni | Eulex: egroupware-filemanager is a module for egroupware, none a standalone web file manager |
| 23:02.22 | enouf | chlue: use a // for comments |
| 23:02.30 | enouf | chlue: not a # |
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| 23:03.07 | bolt | still dislikes the term "web file manager" |
| 23:03.13 | enouf | chlue: or, perhaps that file has been copied/saved in MSDOS mode? |
| 23:03.19 | chlue | enouf: ok thanks will try that |
| 23:03.46 | Eulex | amikrop, I tried here, and audacious could play a .wav file here very well... |
| 23:04.00 | enouf | you can easily open it in say nano, and use ctrl-M (^M), to save/toggle in UNIX mode, not msdos |
| 23:04.01 | Eulex | amikrop, odd that it doesn't for you. |
| 23:04.05 | chlue | enouf: edited with nano directly on the system and there a not comments inside |
| 23:04.08 | amikrop | Eulex: I know :/ |
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| 23:04.17 | Brack10 | is is possible to make ifconfig show me the link speed? |
| 23:04.22 | enouf | chlue: compare files using cat -A on each |
| 23:04.47 | enouf | of use diff, comm, cmp |
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| 23:05.20 | LamerC | Hello. Ive got a problem installing a printer (HP Deskjet 722C). It works under W2K but under Debian 4 I can't get it to work (Using web interface to CUPS, using System Tools->Printers, any) |
| 23:05.33 | abrotman | LamerC: try the printconf package |
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| 23:05.47 | enouf | chlue: pastebin contents of each if necessary - you said "works fine on my system" <-- which "system" ? Lenny? |
| 23:06.17 | chlue | enouf: yes on lenny I have no problems with pinning |
| 23:06.28 | enouf | chlue: wait, also - why are you using apt.conf.d/preferences in one, not the other? |
| 23:06.39 | Eulex | amikrop, one thing you could try is opening it up in audacity and converting to a little more regular format than 8000Hz 16-bit (if your sound card doesn't support that and audocious doesn't try to convert it... playback won't work). another thing you could try is renaming it (in case it is the greek utf-8 that causes it to hiccup) |
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| 23:07.41 | amikrop | Eulex: I 'll try. Also, it may be a PulseAudio/ALSA confusion/misconfiguration issue. |
| 23:07.51 | chlue | enouf: its a vserver and the file seem to only be recognised there. I reduced the content now to http://pastebin.com/m71b75680 and it still does not work. |
| 23:08.03 | amikrop | Eulex: Thank you much, anyway :) |
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| 23:08.20 | enouf | amitz: does aplay play it? |
| 23:08.35 | Eulex | enouf, he said that vlc plays it |
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| 23:09.08 | enouf | amitz: ignore me, the person ran away .. must've been the hideous Micropoop pcm |
| 23:09.18 | brian17 | hello does anyone know where a guide is to print to a windows printer? sorry for noob question |
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| 23:09.29 | enouf | Eulex: i know |
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| 23:09.44 | stoned | brian17, somewhere on the internet |
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| 23:09.51 | hovis | I'm not a super-awesome linux users, but if I wanted to make my SVN server start with everything else, could I just make a script and stick it in /etc/init.d? |
| 23:10.01 | stoned | brian17, google is a great tool for searching things like that |
| 23:10.01 | hovis | s/user/users |
| 23:10.34 | arinko | I'm having trouble with a printer and CUPS (again) -- I'm not sure what the problem is, but its not the printer, or USB. |
| 23:10.35 | enouf | chlue: i said cat -A |
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| 23:10.57 | enouf | chlue: i never asked you to reduce anything |
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| 23:11.18 | arinko | (Other than the printer obviously not printing -- I can print using cat or echo, but....) |
| 23:11.22 | enouf | has to go afk |
| 23:11.24 | enouf | bbl |
| 23:11.44 | abrotman | tells enouf about away :) |
| 23:12.03 | Bravewolf | just a curiosity ... why was linux kernel compiled with gcc 4.1 for amd64 and not with gcc 4.3 (the default gcc)? |
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| 23:13.14 | zinx | Bravewolf: because it was, most likely :/ |
| 23:13.19 | chlue | enouf: sorry, I treid that allready and in both case each line ends with a $ |
| 23:13.21 | arinko | is rapidly growing to hate printers. |
| 23:13.27 | doudou | Hi, i am trying to compile a sourceforge project ... ok it says "checking for GTK... no" so i search GTK, i tried aptitude search GTK but ... too many |
| 23:13.53 | abrotman | doudou: libgtk2.0-dev |
| 23:13.59 | Bravewolf | zinx: ah |
| 23:14.07 | zinx | doudou: aptitude search 'libgtk -dev' |
| 23:14.22 | abrotman | uses apt-cache -- search libgtk -dev |
| 23:15.00 | arinko | Anyone have any advice for my (likely) CUPS related problem? |
| 23:15.08 | LamerC | Nothing. I tried the printconf command with printer plugged up and on, also set my user accounts to be member of 'lp' groups to have read/write access to /dev/lp0. Still nothing. |
| 23:15.40 | zinx | arinko: localhost:631 will give you printer status fwiw |
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| 23:15.54 | zinx | arinko: http://localhost:631/ rather |
| 23:15.55 | LamerC | This may something. Under the statups, I get Ready: /usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed |
| 23:16.26 | doudou | i ask because, it ask before fftw, i install fftw3-dev but it was fftw-dev .., ok thanks for libgtk2.0-dev worked |
| 23:16.29 | abrotman | LamerC: install foomatic-filters |
| 23:16.31 | zinx | LamerC: check /var/log/cups/*_log |
| 23:16.38 | zinx | or that |
| 23:17.03 | LamerC | Foomatic filters already at the newest version, checking logs |
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| 23:20.03 | LamerC | CUPS-Add-Modify-Printer: Unauthorized, No %%BoundingBox: comment in header!, /ioerror in --.outputpage--, /usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip stopped with status 1 |
| 23:20.18 | arinko | I get a timeout on server for anything that points at localhost. |
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| 23:21.11 | arinko | (on port 631) |
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| 23:23.10 | doudou | it try to compile BRP-PACU-2.0.4 it fails with gui.c:693: error: âGTK_DATABOX_SCALE_LOGâ undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 23:23.11 | arinko | CUPS claims to be running -- and the port is opened in the firewall rules. |
| 23:23.53 | doudou | i have tried to compile many things with etch debian, i always failed |
| 23:24.31 | doudou | never succed in compiling ffmpeg |
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| 23:24.53 | doudou | can someone explain main reason? |
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| 23:25.38 | liable | doudou: the function is undeclared, looks like there is a header file missing somewhere |
| 23:25.52 | chlue | doudou: you ran somethin like ./configure? |
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| 23:26.11 | pierre_le | it's not lupus |
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| 23:27.08 | doudou | yes the only thing i know, ./configure make make install ./configure asked many packages until it succeed |
| 23:27.24 | LamerC | Oh well, I was planning on buying a newer one anyway. What are good models that Debian and Linux overall support well? Any USB? |
| 23:27.50 | eanda | hey all. got a real simple question. I spent the time and effort to put a desktop together and now want to make it the default desktop for my debian install. that way anynew user added to the computer will have this desktop. how would I do this. |
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| 23:28.07 | doudou | for what reason some project are released without all sources needed? |
| 23:28.10 | eanda | ooops |
| 23:28.29 | arinko | LamerC, HP models -- well, except on this @*^&% server, and my home system. |
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| 23:28.34 | eanda | how do I make my current desktop design the default for the pc? |
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| 23:29.18 | doudou | When i download linux sources, i have sources for ARM ALPHA SPARC and many things i dont care, but when i want to compile a project for linux, it is always a mess with packeds, lib dev ... |
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| 23:29.50 | liable | doudou: thats why debian has a big repo with stuff already built for you |
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| 23:30.26 | chlue | doudou: thats the idea about libs. If you would download modified libs again for each program this would result in a much bigger mess. |
| 23:30.40 | LamerC | I know a lot are like that. I keep an 'extras' dvd with all the software I use and any needed dependencies so I can always compile the ones needed. |
| 23:30.58 | doudou | it cant be defined a common basis for all, so you must include in your sources all extra? |
| 23:31.06 | LamerC | Compiling GIMP2.6/Inkscape 0.46 wasnt fun but I got it working finally. |
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| 23:32.10 | CpR_ | apt-get build-dep X sometimes solves some headpain |
| 23:33.12 | doudou | chlue, a bigger mess.. i cant imagine, i must admit, is there another way for making programms? |
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| 23:33.26 | valdyn | doudou: im not sure if source releases are meant for people who are not able to fetch depends ( which is not very hard ) |
| 23:34.23 | amitz | I want to create a ppp server so that I can dial up that computer and do vnc over ip. What's the necessary package to create ppp server? What's the best google phrase? |
| 23:34.28 | doudou | valdyn, configure script ask, i give it all what it asked, is that not enougth to fetch depends? tell me what to read to acheive that task |
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| 23:35.02 | Eulex | doudou, if every program included all source it needed, that would be a huge mess. not counting the complexity of security fixes... |
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| 23:35.19 | valdyn | doudou: reading and interpreting the configure scripts output properly |
| 23:35.31 | valdyn | doudou: and reading the release notes |
| 23:36.04 | valdyn | doudou: but usually thats also a waste of time on debian |
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| 23:36.39 | PeterFA | What's the command that let's me change what services start in which run levels? |
| 23:36.45 | doudou | valdyn, that is very interesting, but it may ask a big work, if you consider that there are many programms doing the same thing ... |
| 23:36.54 | Tekno | sysv-rc-conf |
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| 23:36.56 | gray-- | amitz: "vnc over ppp modem linux" ? |
| 23:37.10 | moni | hello, Debian incorporates a web file manager? |
| 23:37.17 | valdyn | moni: yes |
| 23:37.17 | PeterFA | Tekno, thank you. |
| 23:37.24 | doudou | I admit, that this way may seem the less bigger mess possible, but it is not very satisfactory |
| 23:37.33 | abrotman | moni: you were already given an answer |
| 23:37.48 | amitz | gray--: hmm, thanks |
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| 23:38.04 | doudou | as usual indeed |
| 23:38.05 | valdyn | doudou: the purpose of a distro is that you dont have to compile |
| 23:38.37 | chlue | doudou: security reasons and the fact, that a shared libary needs to be only loaded once should be satisfactory enough. |
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| 23:39.44 | doudou | valdyn, the limit is confidence, at start confidence was built on ability to read sources ... nobody can pretend to read anymore anything or master anything |
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| 23:40.08 | valdyn | doudou: i dont understand what you are up to |
| 23:40.18 | moni | valdyn: what is it name? |
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| 23:40.59 | moni | abrotman: what answer? |
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| 23:41.05 | valdyn | moni: "apt-cache search web file manager" |
| 23:41.11 | abrotman | egroupware i think was the answer |
| 23:41.16 | abrotman | even if it is overkill |
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| 23:41.32 | valdyn | or phpgroupware |
| 23:41.54 | doudou | who could trust a mess, even if other are more messy |
| 23:41.55 | moni | abrotman: egroupware is more than a web file manager |
| 23:42.07 | abrotman | i sai dthat |
| 23:42.58 | doudou | well only thing i have to say : i doewnload many times sources to try to compile it, and with my disto it always failed, and it is a big big mess to have any idea why |
| 23:43.05 | valdyn | what exactly is the point of a web file manager? |
| 23:43.26 | themill | valdyn: it's for those who are too web2 to be able to use sftp. |
| 23:43.44 | valdyn | doudou: no one sane claims that this is easy for beginners, its not meant to be. |
| 23:43.57 | valdyn | oh hes gone |
| 23:44.35 | abrotman | what is he trying to compile ? |
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| 23:44.52 | valdyn | hes wining that compiling is hard |
| 23:44.56 | moni | I seek something like net2ftp |
| 23:45.19 | valdyn | gollem - file manager component for horde framework |
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| 23:45.46 | valdyn | moni: why is it a problem what egroupware can do more than manage files? |
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| 23:46.09 | abrotman | we could have him use cafuego's buggy/security-risk-laden software :) |
| 23:46.57 | moni | tancks everybody |
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| 23:47.43 | moni | thanks alot |
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| 23:48.24 | brian17 | hey, is there a gui to configure a windows printer in debian? |
| 23:48.57 | newsense | windows printer ? |
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| 23:49.05 | newsense | wth is that |
| 23:49.05 | abrotman | a network printer attached to a windows printer |
| 23:49.09 | abrotman | erm .. windows machine |
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| 23:49.21 | abrotman | wait .. let me try again .. a printer attached to a windows machien and shared form it |
| 23:49.33 | newsense | oh ok |
| 23:49.41 | newsense | haha |
| 23:50.06 | newsense | smbclient can do that right or a similar package i think |
| 23:50.24 | abrotman | smbprint |
| 23:50.57 | newsense | abrotman, thanks thats the one didnt know if it was part of smbclient package or not |
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| 23:51.14 | abrotman | cups should be able to do it |
| 23:51.22 | Rawplayer | do it! |
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| 23:53.33 | chemist | how can I grep for xxxxxxxx and so many lines below it? |
| 23:53.42 | abrotman | chemist: the grep man page covers this |
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| 23:54.06 | chemist | where? I still have it open |
| 23:54.44 | abrotman | chemist: /Context Line Control |
| 23:55.26 | chemist | abrotman: thanks |
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