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| 00:00.08 | valdyn | karsten: yea, its just one of a few access paths to the same device |
| 00:00.17 | karsten | valdyn: One of the problems is that the nvidia devices list as "unknown" in lspci, which doesn't exactly help matters much. |
| 00:00.17 | zzattack | it's not a problem with routes, but I have no idea where to look either |
| 00:00.31 | valdyn | karsten: uh? |
| 00:00.33 | karsten | zzattack: /sbin/route -n |
| 00:00.36 | valdyn | karsten: run "update-pciids" |
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| 00:00.46 | flower | karsten: no such file or dir |
| 00:00.50 | karsten | valdyn: 0000:00:0a.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0376 (rev a3) |
| 00:00.55 | karsten | valdyn: Two words. |
| 00:00.59 | Eulex | valdyn, increased only slightly to 1.1gb/s when making sure that nothing is using lots of cpu in the background. 2ghz merom, if it matters. |
| 00:01.00 | karsten | valdyn: Production Server. |
| 00:01.08 | zzattack | karsten: before and after the ifdown eth0;ifup eth0 they are the same |
| 00:01.10 | karsten | valdyn: Two other words: Debian pays my bills ;-) |
| 00:01.25 | valdyn | karsten: thats just a text file, but whatever, you can do it manually too at pciids.sourceforge.net |
| 00:01.31 | karsten | zzattack: Well, that would likely *not* be the culprit then. |
| 00:01.32 | zinx | karsten: lspci -n and look up the id, or use update-pciids |
| 00:01.41 | karsten | valdyn: ?? |
| 00:01.52 | valdyn | karsten: do you understand what lscpi does? |
| 00:01.57 | zzattack | karsten: yeah that's what I said, I think you missed my second line :) anyway, any idea what might be the culprit? |
| 00:02.02 | zinx | karsten: update-pciids just updates a file that only lspci uses. |
| 00:02.11 | karsten | zinx: Sure. I just don't have the translation handy here. |
| 00:02.11 | zinx | karsten: so unless lspci is mission-critical for your server.... |
| 00:02.20 | zinx | karsten: what translation? |
| 00:02.24 | flower | karsten: other ideas? |
| 00:02.30 | karsten | valdyn: It's not a showstopper, I'll pass it on as a suggestion. On th epiority queue it's likely low. |
| 00:02.46 | valdyn | karsten: just look the id up and be done with that.. |
| 00:02.52 | zinx | karsten: you google the resulting vendor:product id |
| 00:02.53 | karsten | valdyn: Anyhow: yes, I can look up the PCI ID and sort out what I'm looking at. |
| 00:03.15 | karsten | valdyn: zinx Yes, you've made your point. Understood. Kapiche. I get it. Verstehen. Grokked. |
| 00:03.19 | zinx | i find it difficult to imagine a situation where you need to know which bridge is in use, but are unable to update the pci ids |
| 00:03.25 | karsten | Anything I missed? |
| 00:03.45 | karsten | zinx: Try working in a production shop sometime. |
| 00:03.56 | zinx | why do you need to know which bridge is used? |
| 00:04.13 | zinx | the only things you can do with that information are *FAR* more invasive than updating a single text file. |
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| 00:05.15 | karsten | zinx: Thank you for yoru excrutiatingly overdetailed response. |
| 00:05.21 | zinx | karsten: also, it's a MCP55, which i've heard the ethernet card in can be somewhat bad without some options (and eat CPU with options) |
| 00:05.48 | sundaymorning | zzattack: are you using gnome or kde? Have you tried loading something like fluxbox and then running your usual applications? |
| 00:06.06 | karsten | zinx: Details on that? |
| 00:06.10 | zzattack | sundaymorning: im running GNOME, I've removed network-manager |
| 00:06.13 | Sweetandy | I used b43-fwcutter to install firmware not a part of the kernel. At the newest kernel update, this firmware seems to have been lost. Is there a way to recover it? I already tried uninstalling b43-fwcutter and reinstalling it. |
| 00:06.17 | karsten | zinx: I've found a kernel bug, one sec. |
| 00:06.22 | Sweetandy | (for my wireless) |
| 00:06.35 | zinx | karsten: it causes kernel panics on network activity, apparently. I have a MCP55 too, but it doesn't show the problem. |
| 00:06.51 | zinx | karsten: so it's not all of the MCP55 based boards that do it :/ |
| 00:07.00 | zzattack | sundaymorning: I have tried running firefox after, it wont load any online pages either (only in from webservers in the lan) |
| 00:07.26 | zinx | mine is "rev a2", i forget which motherboard it is |
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| 00:07.48 | karsten | zinx: That sorta matches our experience here. Hence: if I can sort out that the card isn't needed, I can nuke the module. |
| 00:08.00 | zinx | karsten: let me find the options |
| 00:08.02 | karsten | zinx: tx |
| 00:08.23 | Sazpaimon | jesus tsclient/rdesktop gives a lot of input lag |
| 00:09.09 | karsten | zinx: http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9047 |
| 00:09.09 | karsten | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:09.15 | karsten | lags |
| 00:09.15 | zinx | karsten: options forcedeth msi=0 msix=0 |
| 00:09.24 | karsten | zinx: Right. |
| 00:09.34 | karsten | What's the Debian way of specifying that? |
| 00:09.51 | valdyn | karsten: a custom file in /etc/modprobe.d/ |
| 00:09.54 | zinx | karsten: put it in /etc/modprobe.d/forcedeth |
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| 00:10.09 | karsten | OK. |
| 00:10.41 | _2 | what is " product: IXP SB400 SMBus Controller " |
| 00:10.55 | karsten | _2: Context? |
| 00:10.56 | Sazpaimon | yeah rdeskop certainly doesnt have the lag compensation that the native windows client offers |
| 00:10.59 | Sazpaimon | shame |
| 00:11.22 | _2 | karsten lshw |
| 00:11.36 | valdyn | !smbus |
| 00:11.39 | Sazpaimon | plus it doesnt sseem to have any menu to minimize from fullscreen |
| 00:11.48 | valdyn | _2: google it |
| 00:12.04 | karsten | _2: What valdyn said. |
| 00:12.10 | zzattack | sundaymorning: any idea? |
| 00:12.26 | _2 | isn't is easier to say "i don't know" ? |
| 00:12.32 | karsten | _2: If you can get any other vendor info (dmidecode is good) better. If lshw has a verbose option use it. |
| 00:12.38 | valdyn | or should i say "wikipedia it", not like thats a difference |
| 00:12.45 | legis | Sazpaimon: there's a GUI for rdestop but I agree with that is slower. |
| 00:12.54 | Sazpaimon | legis, you mean tsclient |
| 00:12.59 | crunge | _2: It's easier to say nothing at all, but wouldn't have the same meaning |
| 00:13.00 | legis | yeah |
| 00:13.11 | Maior | so, I find FreeNX to be the best remote desktop-y lala I've found |
| 00:13.11 | karsten | _2: "Google it" more or less conveys that and tells you in the nicest possible way that it was perhaps a bit dim to expect us to be a wetware hardware ID database. |
| 00:13.13 | _2 | crunge then please do |
| 00:13.15 | Sazpaimon | I'm using that, I mean rdesktop doesnt have the ability to minimize the desktop when in fullscreen |
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| 00:13.28 | crunge | _2: do what? |
| 00:13.33 | Sazpaimon | is there a shortcut for it? |
| 00:13.43 | legis | Sazpaimon: shift+alt+enter |
| 00:14.12 | legis | think so, don't remember well |
| 00:14.23 | legis | man rdesktop |
| 00:14.42 | karsten | crunge: welcome to teh intarweb. |
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| 00:14.58 | crunge | karsten: Where? |
| 00:15.09 | themill | !permasunday |
| 00:15.10 | dpkg | All days in #debian will remain Sunday until further notice. Unfortunately, outside #debian the world keeps turning, so you still have to get up and go to work. Welcome to PermaTardsday! http://www.lyricsfreak.com/m/morrissey/96007.html |
| 00:15.21 | karsten | notes your brain must be at least >> | << this tall to ride teh intarwebs. |
| 00:15.24 | Eulex | I like the term 'retardwebs' |
| 00:15.37 | _2 | :) |
| 00:15.54 | karsten | Eulex: it's a short stretch to "intardwebs" |
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| 00:17.03 | disposable | i've just accidentally overwritten my partition table with /dev/urandom gibberish. is there any way to restore it using something like /proc/partitions? the system still hasn't been powered down, so it's still running and partitions are mounted. |
| 00:18.00 | Maior | use #blocks from /proc/partitions, plus fdisk |
| 00:18.03 | Maior | for a start |
| 00:18.12 | Maior | what does your fstab and /p/p look like? |
| 00:18.34 | valdyn | and dont mix up the different blocksizes used by different tools |
| 00:18.53 | Maior | mmm yes |
| 00:18.58 | Maior | I don't envy you this task |
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| 00:21.17 | disposable | Maior: this is all i have atm - http://pastebin.com/m76e2a438 |
| 00:21.25 | vedant | hi, how do I set up iptables such that port 23 is forwarded to port 22 on the same computer, as in nat, but the destination is the same computer? |
| 00:21.32 | crunge | on my system, the output of /proc/partitions corresponds to that of sfdisk -l |
| 00:21.36 | Eulex | karsten, indeed. |
| 00:21.51 | crunge | a clever shell script could convert that output to acceptable sfdisk input |
| 00:22.01 | Maior | disposable: yeah, sorry, would like to stay and help, but just noticed time, I need to be up for work in 6h |
| 00:22.05 | Maior | g'luck though |
| 00:22.14 | disposable | Maior: :) |
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| 00:22.39 | Tramp | !tell disposable about gpart |
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| 00:23.50 | disposable | Tramp: i know about gpart, it's just i dont think it likes working on mounted partitions. |
| 00:24.14 | _40oxo_ | where does debian keep mkinitrd? |
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| 00:24.33 | _40oxo_ | i can't find the right package for lenny |
| 00:24.49 | _2 | no such critter |
| 00:24.51 | valdyn | _40oxo_: initramfs-tools |
| 00:24.55 | _2 | try mkinitramfs |
| 00:24.57 | abrotman | mkinitramfs |
| 00:25.46 | _40oxo_ | i have mkinitramfs.. i didn't realize it was what i wanted :) thanks guys |
| 00:26.11 | Tramp | disposable: no idea. Maybe make a hardcopy of your /proc/partitions, run a live CD with gpart on it, combine the results and restore your stuff. I never had to do it. |
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| 00:26.58 | disposable | what do the major an dminor columns in /proc/partitions mean? |
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| 00:27.40 | crunge | disposable: type and index of device, respectively |
| 00:27.46 | _2 | those are the device specifications |
| 00:27.50 | disposable | crunge: thanks |
| 00:28.28 | disposable | crunge: and the #blocks? do they start from 0 or 1? |
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| 00:29.25 | crunge | disposable: as a count I'd presume 0, but I wouldn't try and to recover your stuff on that presumtion |
| 00:29.42 | crunge | disposable: If I were you, my #1 priority would be backing up that data |
| 00:29.45 | _2 | testdisk |
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| 00:30.06 | valdyn | disposable: its a counter, it has to start at 0 for zero size and 1 for size 1 etc |
| 00:30.24 | disposable | valdyn: thanks |
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| 00:31.27 | disposable | ok, i'm going to do it manually with fdisk and the #blocks. if it doesn't work i'll use gpart/testdisk from a livecd. thank you all for help |
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| 00:33.27 | _2 | so do i need a newer kernel to have module piix4_smbus ? |
| 00:33.39 | _2 | 2.6.26 |
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| 00:34.31 | S-i-A | hier said put in debian/install http://wiki.debian.org/Fonts/PackagingPolicy?highlight=(Font) , who is debian/install ? i'm absolute newbie |
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| 00:35.42 | valdyn | S-i-A: install is a file in the debian directory |
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| 00:36.07 | S-i-A | valdyn: and who is debian directory? |
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| 00:36.26 | valdyn | S-i-A: *what* |
| 00:36.31 | valdyn | S-i-A: who = person |
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| 00:36.58 | valdyn | S-i-A: thats the directory that contains the files needed to create a specific debian package |
| 00:37.12 | valdyn | !dnm |
| 00:37.12 | dpkg | Debian New Maintainers' Guide, Debian Policy Manual and Debian Developer's Reference - if you are a deb-newbie read them in this order, found at http://www.debian.org/doc/devel-manuals |
| 00:37.42 | valdyn | S-i-A: or just copy fonts to ~/.fonts/, you dont need to create a package.. |
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| 00:37.58 | themill | !install font |
| 00:37.59 | dpkg | To install fonts for just one user, copy then into ~/.fonts/ and then run fc-cache -fv (or ask me about <kfontinst>). To install them system-wide, copy them into /usr/share/fonts/truetype/myfonts or into /usr/local/share/fonts/truetype/myfonts (but you will have to add /usr/local/share/fonts/ to your xorg.conf) and run fc-cache -fv as root. |
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| 00:38.39 | S-i-A | valdyn: i will create font package, then after install get to /usr/share/fonts automatically |
| 00:38.56 | S-i-A | they are 42 fonts |
| 00:38.58 | S-i-A | themill: thanx i know that :) |
| 00:39.03 | valdyn | dpkg: install fonts =~ s#into /usr/share/fonts/truetype/myfonts ## |
| 00:39.03 | dpkg | i didn't have anything called 'install fonts' to modify, valdyn |
| 00:39.14 | valdyn | dpkg: install font =~ s#into /usr/share/fonts/truetype/myfonts ## |
| 00:39.15 | dpkg | valdyn: that doesn't contain 'into /usr/share/fonts/truetype/myfonts ' |
| 00:39.26 | valdyn | dpkg: install font =~ s#into /usr/share/fonts/truetype/myfonts## |
| 00:39.26 | dpkg | that doesn't contain 'into /usr/share/fonts/truetype/myfonts', valdyn |
| 00:39.27 | themill | wayttd valdyn? |
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| 00:39.48 | themill | ohh.. i see. |
| 00:39.49 | valdyn | themill: /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ is bad advice |
| 00:40.06 | themill | valdyn: why? |
| 00:40.20 | valdyn | themill: because it might conflict with debian files |
| 00:40.54 | _2 | /usr/local/share/fonts*** |
| 00:41.04 | themill | well... "myfonts" isn't in any debian packages and it's the easiest way to install system wide without changing xorg.conf |
| 00:41.12 | Rprp | Does someone know how i can 'mount' a second harddisk to restore data? I got 2 HDD's installed in a server, and its just running from 1 (doh). But i want to restore data from the other disk, how can i mount it? |
| 00:41.39 | themill | valdyn: also /msg dpkg literal install font |
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| 00:42.26 | _2 | Rprp mount /dev/<device_node> /mnt |
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| 00:43.29 | Rprp | _2: Yes, i did that, but i have to mount /dev/sdb2. And then it complains about this: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb2, |
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| 00:44.19 | valdyn | themill: oh well, i dont know enough about fonts to fix this completely |
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| 00:44.38 | valdyn | themill: i know though that i dont need fc-cache to get ~/.fonts/ contents used by gtk |
| 00:45.10 | valdyn | !kfontinst |
| 00:45.10 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, kfontinst is a handy font installer for KDE. It allows you to preview most types of fonts (excluding Type 1) and then decide which ones to install to your font server... It can also generate AFM files for StarOffice - VERY handy! It is located in the kcontrol package. |
| 00:45.14 | _2 | Rprp then you have selected the wrong device node |
| 00:45.40 | themill | valdyn: odd. The only time I've needed that was for gtk apps as kde ones seemed to handle that quite gracefully. |
| 00:46.15 | _2 | Rprp cat /proc/partitions or fdisk -l or dlkid any of those should tell you the device node |
| 00:46.34 | Rprp | _2: its listed in fdsk -l |
| 00:46.53 | _2 | pastebin |
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| 00:48.49 | Rprp | _2: http://rafb.net/p/iV3vzK67.html |
| 00:49.29 | _2 | ah an lvm |
| 00:49.39 | _2 | !lvm |
| 00:49.39 | dpkg | hmm... lvm is the Linux Logical Volume Manager (http://sources.redhat.com/lvm2/). Resources: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/, http://dev.riseup.net/grimoire/storage/lvm2/, <lvm_tutorial>, <lvm removedisk>, <lvm movelv>, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/410, http://sources.redhat.com/lvm2/wiki/ IRC: #lvm @ irc.freenode.net. |
| 00:50.10 | Rprp | It isnt possible to mount it, is it? |
| 00:50.31 | valdyn | Rprp: is there any important data on it? |
| 00:50.32 | _2 | yes it it. but i don't know off hand the command |
| 00:50.52 | _2 | valdyn his backup data is there |
| 00:51.00 | Rprp | valdyn: Yes, a database with alot of data, so very important. |
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| 00:51.13 | valdyn | Rprp: how did you get backups on it without knowing about lvm? |
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| 00:51.57 | Rprp | valdyn: Its a server, they reinstalled the system and put another harddisk in there without copy'ing the backups.. |
| 00:52.12 | valdyn | Rprp: try "vgchange -ay" |
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| 00:52.51 | Rprp | hmm: '2 logical volume(s) in volume group "VolGroup00" now active' |
| 00:53.11 | valdyn | Rprp: ls -l /dev/mapper |
| 00:53.30 | Rprp | valdyn: http://rafb.net/p/ooWEnu25.html |
| 00:53.42 | valdyn | Rprp: mount those |
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| 00:53.55 | valdyn | Rprp: not the control, the other 2 |
| 00:54.13 | Rprp | valdyn: thanks, givign it a try |
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| 00:55.07 | Rprp | valdyn: I have to mount /dev/VolGroup00, right? |
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| 00:59.18 | valdyn | Rprp: no? |
| 00:59.26 | Rprp | valdyn: from where? mounting is not my best thing, lol :) |
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| 00:59.51 | valdyn | Rprp: /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 |
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| 01:00.07 | Rprp | valdyn: ah thnx, giving it another try then :p |
| 01:00.55 | Rprp | valdyn: thanks, worked. really, no words to describe it, thanks :p |
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| 01:08.44 | _2 | so, i have this place to plug a telephone line into this laptop, can anyone help me make it work ? |
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| 01:11.12 | _2 | i have no information on the exact port. the entire chipset is ati the laptop is a toshiba satalite a135 lspci and lshw are useless as they don't mention it at all |
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| 01:13.17 | valdyn | !winmodem |
| 01:13.17 | dpkg | GPL driver and info can be found in http://www-124.ibm.com/acpmodem/ http://www.linmodems.org or http://linux.nf/lesbell.htm or here is a black list of known to be winmodems: http://start.at/modem/ and http://www.idir.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html See also: <winmodem-trick>, or a 3Com/USRobotics trademark, or see <slmodem> |
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| 01:16.27 | Sweetandy | I've been using the proprietary driver provided in b43-fwcutter for my wireless card. Ever since the new linux kernel update my wireless no longer works, probably from being overridden by the kernel update. Is there a way to reverse this? I already tried uninstalling and reinstalling b43-fwcutter. |
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| 01:20.35 | _2 | valdyn scanModem outputs http://pastebin.com/f56ad24bb does this mean that the device is not usable under linux ? |
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| 01:25.21 | saimazoon | hello |
| 01:25.25 | saimazoon | I have a problem |
| 01:25.30 | abrotman | so ask |
| 01:25.37 | saimazoon | when I install emacs22 manual I cannot access it from the info main directory |
| 01:25.41 | saimazoon | it says emacs21 manual is missing |
| 01:25.44 | saimazoon | it makes no sense |
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| 01:26.42 | miksuh | remember to vote :) |
| 01:26.45 | miksuh | http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS3216921374.html?kc=rss |
| 01:27.08 | beardy | saimazoon: Exact command? |
| 01:28.12 | miksuh | better url, which is not rss feed link: |
| 01:28.13 | miksuh | http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS3216921374.html |
| 01:28.32 | saimazoon | beardy, exact command for what? |
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| 01:30.05 | muh2000 | is debian upstart worth a try? |
| 01:30.06 | _2 | when did spam become welcome here ? |
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| 01:31.09 | beardy | It didn't. |
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| 01:32.53 | nsadmin | muh2000: what's that? |
| 01:33.22 | muh2000 | http://packages.debian.org/experimental/admin/upstart nsadmin |
| 01:33.41 | nsadmin | in that case |
| 01:33.47 | nsadmin | I have no opinion |
| 01:34.03 | streuner | !experimental |
| 01:34.04 | dpkg | experimental is the bleeding edge of Debian Development. Packages here have been deemed unfit/DANGEROUS/untrustworthy/etc for release by the maintainer responsible for them. DO NOT INSTALL PACKAGES FROM EXPERIMENTAL WITHOUT KNOWING EXACTLY WHY AND WHAT YOU ARE DOING. #debian does not support experimental. For an actual description, see section 4.6.4.3 of the Developer's Reference, or http://packages.debian.org/experimental/ |
| 01:34.52 | _2 | nsadmin update on the "grub question" grub2 will infact work on partitionless systems, and while it does seem bloated for a boot loader, after i delete about 90% of it's files i think i may like it. |
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| 01:36.01 | nsadmin | _2: oh cool, so did the problem turn out to be that it didn't actually check the data on the partition to determine what filesystem it is? |
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| 01:36.36 | nsadmin | is grub2 any good? |
| 01:37.46 | abrotman | in what sense? |
| 01:37.55 | _2 | nsadmin the problem in grub (not grub2) is that it looks at the partition table rather than the device node, and yes grub2 does seem quite good. it's a bit different in that you configure it through /etc/defaults/grub and /etc/grub.d/* |
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| 01:39.22 | _2 | but the basic syntax is about the same, and it is pretty easy to wrap your head around. although i do wish they would keep all configuration in one dir. |
| 01:41.40 | _2 | ls -1 /boot/grub/ | wc -l |
| 01:41.40 | _2 | 104 |
| 01:41.49 | _2 | heh that's grub2 for ya. |
| 01:42.12 | linux_stu | how can i easily install fonts? |
| 01:42.36 | _2 | linux_stu with apt-get |
| 01:42.59 | _2 | aptitude or synaptic even |
| 01:44.39 | stuart | I have a new favourite dpkg frontend. |
| 01:44.47 | stuart | aptsh ! |
| 01:45.17 | stuart | As a pseudoshell for APT it's pure cheese, but called with command-line args it's very nice. I have it aliased to `apt`. |
| 01:45.49 | stuart | The args you can call it with kind of combines the most useful stuff out of apt-{get,cache,file}. |
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| 01:46.00 | stuart | eh.. but yeah |
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| 01:46.25 | fd_64 | Do we still have problems wtih 64 browsers and certain plugins? |
| 01:46.34 | linux_stu | _2, do you know what packages might yield additional font options in openoffice? |
| 01:46.41 | abrotman | fd_64: depends which version of linux |
| 01:46.47 | Decepticon | if a dir is created in /my/dir/ by the name of newdir such that it is /my/dir/newdir ... how can i tell inotify to launch /my/script.sh |
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| 01:47.51 | fd_64 | abrotman: well now i'm moving install debian on my main computer which has an athlon64 processor |
| 01:48.05 | abrotman | still depends which version of debian and which plugins |
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| 01:48.34 | fd_64 | abrotman: Lenny and flash |
| 01:49.18 | abrotman | fd_64: should work, also consider that there are free alternatives to "work" |
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| 01:50.54 | fd_64 | abrotman: alrighty then. I guess ill start with the lenny netinst |
| 01:51.04 | abrotman | didn't you do that a few days ago? |
| 01:51.53 | fd_64 | I was installing debian on my junky computer to test it out on a real machine instead of a VM. Thats a slow 700mhz 32bit machine. |
| 01:53.19 | abrotman | oh |
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| 01:55.57 | linux_stu | what are some packages i could install for common fonts, such as arial? |
| 01:57.56 | \amethyst | linux_stu: apt-cache search arial |
| 01:58.40 | linux_stu | thank you \amethyst! |
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| 02:03.08 | JordiGH | Is it possible to give ssh access without giving sftp access or vice versa? |
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| 02:03.49 | H2S04 | JordiGH, yes. |
| 02:03.51 | liable | scponly sort of. |
| 02:04.29 | JordiGH | Sulfuric, is it easier to create a new sftp user with restricted privileges or to chroot an ftp server? |
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| 02:12.14 | tbrock | im trying to write an iso to an external usb hd |
| 02:12.18 | tbrock | so i can boot off it |
| 02:12.23 | tbrock | can someone help me do this |
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| 02:15.29 | JordiGH | tbrock: A CD iso? |
| 02:15.39 | JordiGH | iso9960 or whatever? |
| 02:16.24 | tbrock | JordiGH, yeah |
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| 02:17.08 | batman_ramirez | hey \how can i download the openssl development mpackage |
| 02:17.29 | Decepticon | what do i do if i want my script to launch when theres a new dir in /home/decepticon/newstuff/* |
| 02:17.39 | dustybin | is there a simple way to remove a warning from my log file 'dib0700: Unknown remote controller |
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| 02:18.05 | \amethyst | batman_ramirez: aptitude install libssl-dev |
| 02:18.21 | batman_ramirez | thx |
| 02:18.27 | JordiGH | tbrock: Eh, that's the wrong format to write to a hard drive, I bet. Why don't you mount the iso, format the hard drive, copy the mounted iso contents to the hard drive, and then install grub to the hard drive? |
| 02:18.55 | tbrock | JordiGH, because its a windows iso |
| 02:18.59 | tbrock | for windows 7 |
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| 02:19.14 | JordiGH | tbrock: So? |
| 02:19.23 | JordiGH | tbrock: Grub has a chainloader. |
| 02:19.28 | tbrock | hrmm |
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| 02:19.39 | tbrock | doesn't the drive need to be ntfs |
| 02:19.48 | nsadmin | dustybin: why care about a single line? btw, you could try stopping the logger, editing the file then restarting |
| 02:19.57 | tbrock | can you help me do this |
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| 02:21.21 | uwoala | As root, I get "cannot open dev /dev/slusb0" but the device is there as revealed by 'ls -l /dev/sl*'. What could be wrong? |
| 02:21.41 | abrotman | permissions are ? |
| 02:21.55 | uwoala | permissions are 600. |
| 02:22.28 | \amethyst | 'cannot open dev /dev/slusb0' is the only error? |
| 02:22.31 | JordiGH | tbrock: So format it as ntfs... |
| 02:22.39 | tbrock | ok |
| 02:22.45 | tbrock | using gparted? |
| 02:23.34 | uwoala | the full err msg is: error: mdm setup: cannot open dev `/dev/slusb0': No such device |
| 02:23.35 | uwoala | error: cannot setup device `/dev/slusb0' |
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| 02:25.24 | tbrock | JordiGH, is that right? |
| 02:25.46 | JordiGH | tbrock: I'm guessing. I guess it's possible. |
| 02:25.53 | tbrock | ok |
| 02:25.57 | tbrock | how would you do it? |
| 02:25.59 | tbrock | mkfs? |
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| 02:34.27 | xopey | when using "screen", how do i Page Up/Down? |
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| 02:37.06 | Decepticon | which call is better for incron if i want to launch a script when a dir is created inside /my/watch/dir ... the process creating the dir is creating the dir, writing files inside the dir for about 4 minutes, then exiting. should i use : IN_CLOSE_WRITE File opened for writing was closed ........ or should i use IN_CREATE File/directory created in watched directory ? |
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| 02:47.33 | nsadmin | Decepticon which have you tried |
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| 02:47.50 | Decepticon | never mind i thought about it more about how the process works |
| 02:48.07 | Decepticon | the process makes the dir in a tmp file, writes and writes for 4 mins, then moves the file to the actual watch dir |
| 02:48.13 | Decepticon | moves the *dir to the actual watch dir |
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| 02:48.20 | Decepticon | so its better to use in_create |
| 02:48.21 | Decepticon | yes? |
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| 02:48.31 | nsadmin | Decepticon which have you tried |
| 02:48.44 | Decepticon | i am working on my script, not have had a chance to try yet either method |
| 02:48.54 | nsadmin | ok, try them both |
| 02:49.00 | Decepticon | in a bit |
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| 02:49.21 | nsadmin | if they both work, then it's either the one easier to read and understand or the faster oen |
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| 02:53.07 | Decepticon | nsadmin actually... now that i think more about it |
| 02:53.09 | Decepticon | its IN_MOVED_TO |
| 02:53.15 | Decepticon | # IN_MOVED_TO File moved into watched directory |
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| 02:55.11 | dustybin | anybody here use LDAP on a home network what consists of linux, mac os x and windows desktops |
| 02:57.18 | abrotman | dustybin: stop taking polls, they're annoying |
| 02:57.50 | dustybin | :( |
| 02:58.04 | nsadmin | dustybin (one and only guess) let me guess... you do? |
| 02:58.42 | DeathWolf | which package is debuild in? |
| 02:58.45 | Decepticon | nsadmin i was correct... its IN_MOVED_TO |
| 02:58.56 | dustybin | I have never messed around with LDAP, but I like the idea of a centralized address book |
| 02:59.21 | nsadmin | lots of ways to do thyat |
| 02:59.36 | dustybin | Even squirrelmail can communicate with LDAP |
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| 03:00.19 | DeathWolf | build-essential is installed... |
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| 03:04.53 | dustybin | imagine if your cellphone could use LDAP for the contacts :D |
| 03:07.26 | \amethyst | dustybin: apt-file search debuild says it's in devscripts |
| 03:07.34 | \amethyst | err |
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| 03:07.38 | \amethyst | DeathWolf: apt-file search debuild says it's in devscripts |
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| 03:11.51 | fd_64 | So I'm having trouble installing the driver for my nvidia graphics card |
| 03:12.39 | JordiGH | !nvidia |
| 03:12.39 | dpkg | To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. If you've done it before, asking me about <nvidia pre-built> or <nvidia m-a> might work (if you're using a GeForce 2 or older, ask me about <nvidia_legacy>). nvidia.com drivers (ie. <nvidia-installer>) are _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia (irc.freenode.net). |
| 03:12.55 | abrotman | fd_64: be more descriptive, or you'll get answers like that |
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| 03:15.17 | fd_64 | abrotman: that should help |
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| 03:24.40 | jason^ | so i'm building a package, at what point should i remove a file that i don't want installed normally? |
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| 03:25.58 | JordiGH | jason^: You can modify debian/rules to remove the file from debian/package/usr/bin/what/ever right after make install is run. That will give you a .deb without the file. |
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| 03:26.23 | JordiGH | (Well, "make install" ore equivalent if it's a different build system) |
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| 03:30.53 | epsas | why doesn't links come with SSL support compiled-in by default, again? |
| 03:31.20 | abrotman | ssl licensing and exemptions |
| 03:31.56 | epsas | ssl ended up sucking anyway. :P |
| 03:32.45 | epsas | the protocol itself is licensed? |
| 03:33.04 | abrotman | libssl |
| 03:33.07 | epsas | not that i wanted to start a conversation on the licensing of protocols... but i am still curious |
| 03:33.14 | abrotman | i think that's why .. probably google would know more |
| 03:33.20 | epsas | thanks abrotman |
| 03:33.23 | abrotman | openssl, wahtever |
| 03:33.50 | abrotman | http://www.links.org/?p=328 |
| 03:34.18 | abrotman | oh .. totally wrong link |
| 03:34.36 | abrotman | totally wrong link |
| 03:35.38 | abrotman | epsas: http://www.gnome.org/~markmc/openssl-and-the-gpl.html .. maybe ? |
| 03:36.34 | JordiGH | wonders if packages are gonna say now when the packager gets pissed off with licenses. |
| 03:36.41 | JordiGH | Policy now says they should. |
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| 03:39.23 | \amethyst | epsas: links2 does have SSL support, BTW, though it doesn't verify certificates |
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| 03:45.56 | devicenull | how can I get the 32bit versions of tools like ld and objdump under amd64? |
| 03:46.13 | abrotman | devicenull: setup a chroot |
| 03:46.39 | devicenull | that's the only way? ugh thats kinda lame |
| 03:47.01 | \amethyst | devicenull: binutils-multiarch |
| 03:47.31 | devicenull | cool thx |
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| 03:48.36 | JordiGH | "kinda lame"? |
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| 03:49.32 | devicenull | yep. |
| 03:49.34 | \amethyst | devicenull: I assume you mean something that targets ia32 and not actual 32-bit binaries |
| 03:49.49 | devicenull | no, actually I meant actual 32 bit binaries |
| 03:50.07 | devicenull | the multiple version seems to, but I'm still not getting the expected results |
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| 03:50.13 | JordiGH | devicenull: How the hell is that supposed to work without a kinda lame chroot? |
| 03:50.34 | devicenull | I would assume objdump doesn't require a full set of libraries to work |
| 03:50.47 | JordiGH | How about a kernel? |
| 03:51.01 | devicenull | why would decompiling an object require a kernel |
| 03:51.04 | \amethyst | JordiGH: 64-bit kernels can run 32-bit code |
| 03:51.13 | \amethyst | devicenull: oh, then you will need a chroot, because there is no 32-bit-hosted objdump in the archive |
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| 03:51.42 | \amethyst | devicenull: the 32-bit stuff generally has 'ia32' or 'lib32' in its name |
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| 03:51.59 | devicenull | objdump: supported targets: elf64-x86-64 elf32-i386 ... |
| 03:52.02 | devicenull | seems that way? |
| 03:52.38 | bombshock | Hello. I updated to Lenny. However LUKS gives me the following error when I try to access my box: cryptsetup: failed to setup lvm device +waiting for root file system. Anyone have an idea how this may be fixed? |
| 03:52.47 | \amethyst | that version targets amd64 and i386; however, /usr/bin/objdump itself is a 64-bit binary |
| 03:53.06 | devicenull | yes, that shouldn't matter for what I'm doing? |
| 03:53.14 | \amethyst | shouldn't |
| 03:53.16 | devicenull | I'm running 64bit, I need to use it on a 32 bit binary |
| 03:53.28 | devicenull | unless I'm really misunderstanidng objdump it should work |
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| 03:53.39 | \amethyst | devicenull: yes |
| 03:53.50 | \amethyst | devicenull: are you getting an error or something? |
| 03:54.00 | devicenull | yea, objdump says no symbols |
| 03:54.10 | devicenull | when someone on 32bit ubuntu gets a full symbol list for the same bianry |
| 03:54.16 | JordiGH | bombshock: Uh... that's not a very informative error. |
| 03:54.29 | JordiGH | bombshock: You didn't get prompted for the password? |
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| 03:55.51 | bombshock | JordiGH: Yes it did prompt me for password. Upon entering my password, it hangs telling me that its waiting for root file systems.. After a minute, it says that the wait time is over and drops to a shell |
| 03:56.14 | mydrmeix | im running lenny, NVU from backports is seg fault... where else can I get nvu(gtk)?? |
| 03:56.33 | JordiGH | mydrmeix: Why are you backporting in lenny? |
| 03:56.38 | abrotman | nvu is dead upstream .. try the composer in iceape |
| 03:56.53 | mydrmeix | JordiGH: i have taken it out, but it was the only repos i could find with nvu |
| 03:57.05 | mydrmeix | JordiGH: i didnt realise this, thanks |
| 03:57.12 | \amethyst | devicenull: and you're using the same options they are? |
| 03:57.23 | JordiGH | bombshock: No clue... sorry. |
| 03:57.28 | \amethyst | devicenull: it's not an issue of -t vs -T or something? |
| 03:57.57 | devicenull | yep |
| 03:58.11 | devicenull | he did: objdump -t /home/they4kman/srcds/cstrike/addons/sourcemod/extensions/auto.1.ep1/../viper/linux/libpython2.5.so.1.0 | grep -i reftotal |
| 03:58.22 | devicenull | I did objdump -t /home/srcds/cstrike/addons/sourcemod/extensions/auto.1.ep1/viper.ext.so |
| 03:58.32 | devicenull | er my command is wrong |
| 03:58.35 | \amethyst | which is an entirely different file isn't it? |
| 03:58.41 | devicenull | I meant objdump -t /home/srcds/cstrike/addons/sourcemod/extensions/viper/linux/libpython2.5.so.1.0 |
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| 03:59.50 | \amethyst | devicenull: are the md5sums the same? |
| 03:59.58 | devicenull | yep |
| 04:00.00 | devicenull | already checked that |
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| 04:02.37 | \amethyst | devicenull: hm. I don't have an amd64 to test on, but it works fine reading symbols from a ppc64 binary on a powerpc install (where most things are 32-bit). And I don't even have binutils-multiarch there |
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| 04:03.10 | devicenull | yea we are getting a 3rd person to try |
| 04:03.16 | devicenull | to see if its my system thats weird, or his |
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| 04:06.38 | drwahl | i am trying to use an "apple mighty mouse" with my bluetooth adapter in the latest version of Lenny. when i run 'hidd --search', it finds the mouse, but fails to connect to it with the error "Can't create HID control channel: Connection refused". any ideas on how to fix this? |
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| 04:11.02 | mydrmeix | where in gnome can I disable alt so it works with gimp? |
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| 04:12.03 | Haris1 | Hello people |
| 04:12.10 | mydrmeix | ah there is tips on the bottom |
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| 04:12.31 | Haris1 | the tracepath utility is .. not showing me mtu along the whole path. It only shows it at the source |
| 04:12.38 | Haris1 | Is there any way to check mtu along the whole path? |
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| 04:14.06 | \amethyst | Haris1: it only shows you the MTU when it changes |
| 04:14.23 | \amethyst | Haris1: so that means the MTU at the source was (no greater than) the MTU everywhere else |
| 04:14.53 | \amethyst | you can't tell if the MTU is higher further out, only if it is lower |
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| 04:30.06 | Heavy-D | hey guys, i'm looking to install the msttcorefonts package but it says it doesn't exist anymore, how can I install it? |
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| 04:30.28 | Heavy-D | ala ... apt-get install msttcorefonts |
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| 04:32.43 | dmoerner | Heavy-D: ttf-liberation for free versions or ttf-mscorefonts-installer for the real thing |
| 04:33.11 | \amethyst | Heavy-D: sounds like you don't have contrib in your sources |
| 04:33.29 | \amethyst | since lenny and sid both provide transition packages |
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| 04:33.55 | Heavy-D | \amethyst, how can I add that to my sources? |
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| 04:34.12 | \amethyst | !contrib |
| 04:34.12 | dpkg | well, contrib is Debian packages that are free, but depend on software not in Debian (possibly in contrib or non-free). To get packages in contrib, add lines like "deb http://yourmirror/debian/ [etch|lenny] main contrib" to your /etc/apt/sources.list. Also ask me about <non-free>. |
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| 04:34.46 | \amethyst | add 'contrib' after 'main' |
| 04:34.50 | \amethyst | to the sources you already have |
| 04:35.06 | Heavy-D | awesome, i'll try that |
| 04:36.25 | \amethyst | note that you'll have to do aptitude update (or apt-get update ) after changing sources.list |
| 04:37.27 | Heavy-D | ah, that makes sense *blush* |
| 04:37.28 | Heavy-D | lol |
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| 04:38.02 | devicenull | \amethyst, turns out it was user error. at first our md5's didn't match so I had him send me new binaries |
| 04:38.09 | devicenull | however, we didn't check the md5's on the new binaries |
| 04:38.16 | devicenull | which turned out to be the wrong ones |
| 04:38.59 | Heavy-D | Well thats why her baby looks so big.. because she is so small |
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| 04:39.32 | devicenull | we all thought we were idiots |
| 04:40.31 | Heavy-D | \amethyst, thanks man |
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| 04:41.59 | mactimes | Hello. I'm running Etch in a server and would like to set up a corporate paste bin in the company. Could someone, please, point out a good one? |
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| 04:52.37 | Chicago | The FSF has a pastebin app in their repo. I forget its name though. |
| 04:52.51 | Chicago | I used it with moderate satisfaction. |
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| 04:55.31 | puff | Anyone familiar with using rsync between two machines? How hard/easy is it to set up? I'm sync'ing from an ubuntu to debian. |
| 04:55.49 | newsense | not too hard |
| 04:55.52 | dmoerner | puff: http://troy.jdmz.net/rsync/index.html is the basic setup that i use |
| 04:55.58 | newsense | rsync has many options |
| 04:57.02 | puff | So it's doable to tunnel it over ssh and not have to have an rsync daemon on the remote box, cool. |
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| 04:59.27 | newsense | puff, theres many rsync docs it does a lot, too much to dscuss in #debian |
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| 05:03.00 | emes | i have a shell account on a debian machine, how can i find out what release the machine is running? |
| 05:03.01 | Malf | what's my best bet for syncing evolution calendars and google calendars? The google calendar within evolution in testing seems shaky at best |
| 05:03.12 | Malf | the plugin rather |
| 05:03.16 | emes | i don't have read access to /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 05:03.43 | stew | emes: trey "lsb_release -a" |
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| 05:04.06 | stew | ^trey^try |
| 05:04.23 | emes | stew: i'm not finding lsb_release on the system |
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| 05:04.41 | stew | emes: what does "apt-cache policy libc6" say for "Installed: ? |
| 05:05.05 | emes | Installed: 2.7-9 |
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| 05:05.21 | stew | emes: that is an outdated version of lenny aka testing or sid aka unstable |
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| 05:05.37 | stew | emes: (or some debian derivative, such as ubuntu) |
| 05:05.46 | stew | judd: versions libc6 |
| 05:05.46 | judd | stew: libc6 -- etch: 2.3.6.ds1-13etch7 lenny: 2.7-18 sid: 2.7-18 experimental: 2.9-0exp1 |
| 05:06.27 | emes | ok, thanks |
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| 05:07.03 | mactimes | Chicago: Thank you! |
| 05:07.16 | Chicago | mactimes: Yw |
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| 05:07.29 | mactimes | Chicago: I found Lisppaste and code-fu. Which one were you referring to? |
| 05:07.31 | emes | is python 3.0 not in unstable? |
| 05:07.53 | Chicago | Probably code-fu, I would need to double check to remember. |
| 05:08.04 | Chicago | Unfortunately, I don't even recall exactly where I installed it =/ |
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| 05:08.36 | stew | emes: not yet, hopefully soon |
| 05:08.54 | mactimes | Chicago: Well, anyways, thank you. I'll try and see what fits best. =) |
| 05:09.10 | stew | emes: the debian maintianer is also the ubuntu maintiner, its in ubuntu now, he's going to upload to experimental soon but doesn't think it is mature enough for experiemental yet |
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| 05:11.08 | emes | stew: i see, thanks |
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| 05:11.22 | \amethyst | stew: it's in ubuntu but not mature enough for experimental? |
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| 05:11.24 | stew | which is, of course, a bit amusing |
| 05:11.30 | stew | \amethyst: aparantly :) |
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| 05:11.57 | stew | err apparently, jeez |
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| 05:17.53 | synaptic | So I accidently removed /etc/samba/ |
| 05:18.03 | synaptic | apt-get will not install all of the these files again |
| 05:18.08 | synaptic | how can I restore the directory? |
| 05:18.57 | stew | synaptic: /msg dpkg confmiss |
| 05:19.33 | stew | synaptic: but note that the config files might be owned by a package list samba-common instead of samba, so you may want to reinstall all the of samba related packages with confmiss |
| 05:21.43 | synaptic | ooh let me try that |
| 05:21.45 | synaptic | Thank you stew |
| 05:22.11 | synaptic | EXACTLY what I needed |
| 05:22.20 | synaptic | It was samba-common that had the config files |
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| 05:22.47 | synaptic | Now to get a domain controller setup.. |
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| 05:22.58 | dj_ryan | hey how do you set /bin/sh to /bin/bash? |
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| 05:24.04 | stew | dj_ryan: you'd symlink it. what does "readlink -f /bin/sh" say now? |
| 05:24.26 | dj_ryan | sadly /bin/dash |
| 05:24.46 | stew | dj_ryan: out of curiosity, why does that make you sad? |
| 05:24.47 | \amethyst | A. that's not Debian B. what's wrong with that? |
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| 05:25.18 | stew | i thought debian was going to do it by lenny |
| 05:25.31 | dmoerner | you can set it manually but it looks like it's still not default sadly |
| 05:25.38 | dj_ryan | well i dont like dash, and bash is a better user experience, plus my capistrano reipies require bash |
| 05:25.38 | stew | right |
| 05:25.49 | stew | dj_ryan: don't use dash for user experience |
| 05:26.06 | stew | dj_ryan: users can use /bin/bash as their login shells |
| 05:26.36 | \amethyst | and a script which requires bash should have #! /bin/bash |
| 05:26.39 | dj_ryan | unfortunately capistrano seems to assume /bin/sh |
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| 05:26.43 | dj_ryan | its bizzare |
| 05:27.25 | stew | dj_ryan: if capistrano assumes that, file bugs |
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| 05:28.54 | dj_ryan | its just a weird interaction with a combination of capistrano, a particular Capfile and my luck |
| 05:29.35 | amitz | is there any VNC (besides NX) that is faster than tightvnc? |
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| 05:30.02 | amitz | or at least as fast? |
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| 05:32.50 | amitz | information on internet seems to differ according to time. There is claim that normal vnc is currently as fast (with loose compression), but at that moment I found that to be wrong. |
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| 05:35.56 | Brack10 | in the guide for integrating samba with kerberos I'm supposed to check what version of MIT Kerberos libraries are installed on my computer by entering "rpm -q krb5" which of course doesn't work. so I tried apt-cache showpkg krb5 as root and that also didn't work. Anyone know how to check this on Debian? |
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| 05:37.37 | \amethyst | Brack10: dpkg -l libkrb53 |
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| 05:38.26 | \amethyst | Brack10: dpkg -l '*krb5*' to show all installed krb5-related packages (including both MIT and Heimdal krb5) |
| 05:38.37 | Brack10 | thank you |
| 05:39.11 | Brack10 | anyone had any success with this particular configuraiton? |
| 05:39.16 | Brack10 | configuration |
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| 05:39.53 | \amethyst | you haven't said what the configuration is other than "integrating samba with kerberos" :) |
| 05:40.15 | Brack10 | I'm hoping to use a debian box as a file server for windows clients |
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| 05:40.28 | Brack10 | integrated with active directory for permissions |
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| 05:40.52 | \amethyst | will you run the AD server, or is that on a Windows machine? |
| 05:41.29 | Brack10 | it's a windows machine, samba will be a member |
| 05:41.59 | \amethyst | no experience myself, then |
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| 05:42.39 | Brack10 | do you have samba as a domain controller or something? |
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| 05:42.50 | rafase282 | hello |
| 05:42.56 | rafase282 | I need help with vnc |
| 05:43.16 | rafase282 | can anyone help me? |
| 05:43.23 | Brack10 | don't ask to ask |
| 05:43.25 | dansushi | anyone else here having an outrageously slow download speed when using apt-get upgrade? |
| 05:44.08 | rafase282 | I have deabian installed on my phone and i want to run app and sedn them to the tightvnc server |
| 05:44.15 | rafase282 | how do I run them? |
| 05:44.27 | \amethyst | Brack10: openldap + krb5 + samba though I didn't set it up, only maintain the Unix side |
| 05:44.42 | \amethyst | Brack10: in particular I know nothing about the Windows end of things |
| 05:44.54 | Brack10 | amethyst: you have windows clients connected to this setup? |
| 05:45.07 | \amethyst | Brack10: yes, but I wasn't the one who set them up |
| 05:45.15 | Brack10 | I didn't know that was possible |
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| 05:45.45 | dmoerner | dansushi: try using a faster mirror. |
| 05:45.51 | \amethyst | Brack10: ISTR it was a pain to get everything working right, but it's possible |
| 05:45.56 | drwahl | i am trying to use an "apple mighty mouse" with my bluetooth adapter in the latest version of Lenny. when i run 'hidd --search', it finds the mouse, but fails to connect to it with the error "Can't create HID control channel: Connection refused". any ideas on how to fix this? |
| 05:46.31 | dansushi | dmoerner: i've been using this one for ever, and have been getting like 2MB download... |
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| 05:46.53 | Brack10 | amethyst: wow crazy. how do the users like it? |
| 05:46.53 | samplr | if I bridge a 10/100 and a gigabit interface, will the machine seem to have the same MAC address from either port? |
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| 05:48.06 | \amethyst | Brack10: they've had no problems. though it's a small lab and we have more Linux users than Windows |
| 05:48.20 | Brack10 | I see |
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| 05:49.19 | rafase282 | can somone help me with vnc server? |
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| 05:52.59 | karsten | rafase282: Just ask your question. |
| 05:53.13 | karsten | rafase282: ... and no, I can't, train stops in a few minutes. |
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| 06:04.33 | L|NUX | is there any way to mount partitions other then from /etc/fstab |
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| 06:05.13 | simonrvn | of course |
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| 06:07.56 | L|NUX | simonrvn: from same format file other then /etc/fstab |
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| 06:11.47 | nsadmin | L|NUX: you can run the mount commands by typing them in. you could write a shell script to do same/ |
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| 06:12.51 | L|NUX | yes |
| 06:12.56 | L|NUX | i have shell script idea |
| 06:12.57 | L|NUX | :) |
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| 06:14.24 | nsadmin | you could write your own program that parses files that look like /etc/fstab |
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| 06:16.33 | L|NUX | :) |
| 06:16.36 | L|NUX | thx |
| 06:17.08 | samplr | how can I see how fast an ethernet interface autonegotiated to? |
| 06:17.16 | samplr | I don't see it in ifconfig |
| 06:17.24 | cahoot | ethtool? |
| 06:17.39 | samplr | cahoot: it's not in the base installation |
| 06:18.22 | cahoot | install it? |
| 06:18.46 | L|NUX | samplr: ethtool, mii-tool |
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| 06:19.01 | samplr | I *do* have mii-tool |
| 06:19.14 | samplr | but it failed on my interface |
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| 06:19.47 | samplr | it just seems like something I should be able to see |
| 06:21.25 | samplr | it *sets* the media type |
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| 06:23.35 | drwahl | i am trying to use an "apple mighty mouse" with my bluetooth adapter in the latest version of Lenny. when i run 'hidd --search', it finds the mouse, but fails to connect to it with the error "Can't create HID control channel: Connection refused". any ideas on how to fix this? |
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| 06:28.49 | samplr | L|NUX: cahoot: ethtool worked, but... this is really something that tools in a base install should do |
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| 06:37.08 | sfuentes | anyone know how to stop TKIP: replay detected messages? |
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| 06:46.31 | karsten | Answering LINUX's question: autofs/automount effectively mounts filesystems from a source other than /etc/fstab. |
| 06:46.49 | karsten | Including, optionally, NIS automount maps or LDAP. |
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| 06:47.27 | nsadmin | he said something about wanting same fiel format as fstab |
| 06:47.28 | karsten | sfuentes: You've Googled? |
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| 06:48.04 | karsten | sfuentes: Might indicate a routing loop on your local net: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-429308.html |
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| 06:48.27 | karsten | nsadmin: Yeah, I vagelyu saw, noted the nick wasn't active, and know of a couple of examples. |
| 06:48.59 | karsten | sfuentes: wired or wireless network? |
| 06:49.07 | karsten | sfuentes: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/wireless/wlse/2.12/troubleshooting/guide/faults.html |
| 06:49.11 | Scix | Can i use a script file with preseed/late_command, and where do i put the file, for the installer to access it? |
| 06:49.44 | karsten | sfuentes: and: http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0602.2/0662.html |
| 06:51.14 | amitz | where will a succesfull Xephyr run on? A screen that extends to two monitors, or 2 screen occupying each of the 2 monitors? screen" as in xorg.conf screen. |
| 06:51.35 | amitz | running Xephyr for dual seat on debian lenny |
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| 06:59.43 | aoeu3 | where can i find a version of flash that will work in etch? the most recent version of flash says i need glibc 2.4 |
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| 07:00.18 | karsten | aoeu3: Is there a flash-nonfree or similar in your package listing? |
| 07:00.27 | karsten | aoeu3: Requires the non-free repo. |
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| 07:04.00 | aoeu3 | karsten, i have non-free, and don't see anything |
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| 07:06.44 | Haris1 | \amethyst: good point. However its not showing ANY mtu along the path |
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| 07:07.14 | \amethyst | aoeu3: it was removed from etch non-free; you need to get it from backports now |
| 07:07.29 | Haris1 | I can check mtu at the source via other means as well. What then, would be the purpose of tracepath |
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| 07:07.50 | \amethyst | !backports.org |
| 07:07.51 | dpkg | backports.org is an unofficial repository of backports for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Read http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions ask me about <backports>. A sample line for your sources.list is: deb http://www.backports.org/debian etch-backports main contrib non-free. Once you've added that line, aptitude update && aptitude install debian-backports-keyring && aptitude update |
| 07:08.01 | \amethyst | Haris1: it doesn't show it at the end? |
| 07:08.08 | \amethyst | Haris1: " Resume: pmtu 1492 hops 14 back 238" |
| 07:08.11 | tajlero | dev headers are not needed after compile correct? if so how do I remove them? |
| 07:08.23 | Haris1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:08.23 | Haris1 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:09.52 | \amethyst | Haris1: hm, too many hops? |
| 07:10.57 | Haris1 | no reply after that 15th hop. icmp might be disabled |
| 07:11.33 | \amethyst | Haris1: in that case you won't be able to get any path MTU information past that point |
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| 07:22.34 | adalhelm | hi guys |
| 07:23.02 | simonrvn | no, i'm not |
| 07:23.56 | adalhelm | simonrvn: not a guy? |
| 07:24.08 | simonrvn | not hi(gh) |
| 07:25.16 | adalhelm | I see. |
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| 07:28.44 | man_in_shack | waves |
| 07:29.04 | man_in_shack | how would one build a package that has debugging symbols? |
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| 07:31.51 | \amethyst | man_in_shack: dh_strip --dbg-package=foo-dbg |
| 07:32.04 | simonrvn | there's explicit instructions for that, but you'd make a -dbg package, and make dh_strip do stuff. there ya go :). |
| 07:32.29 | man_in_shack | cool |
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| 07:33.06 | simonrvn | don't forget to make the control file entry |
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| 07:33.22 | man_in_shack | oh? what needs to be in the control file? |
| 07:33.24 | simonrvn | (and other stuff if needed) |
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| 07:34.36 | simonrvn | the fact you're making one |
| 07:35.21 | simonrvn | foo-dbg ... Description: .... This package has debugging symbols enabled. # for instance |
| 07:35.42 | man_in_shack | ok |
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| 07:37.08 | man_in_shack | while i'm at it, is there a neat way to build a -dev package too? :) |
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| 07:38.22 | vonsp | maah... does anyone knowes how to invert one of joystic axis with jscal ? |
| 07:38.33 | vonsp | is there any documentation to its syntax ? |
| 07:38.45 | vonsp | in manual just nothing %( |
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| 07:38.56 | man_in_shack | vonsp, wouldn't you just invert the axis when it asks you for max and min? |
| 07:39.08 | man_in_shack | vonsp, that's worked for me in the past |
| 07:39.12 | vonsp | it dont works ( |
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| 07:40.19 | man_in_shack | could be your app is using event devices, which don't get calibrated |
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| 07:40.50 | vonsp | before using jscal - application works fine and get all axis right |
| 07:41.02 | vonsp | after using jscal -c throttle is inverting |
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| 07:41.40 | vonsp | i can override it in application settings, but it is not good way to do it, i think |
| 07:42.28 | morfol | hey, i need a good tool to restore delete data |
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| 07:43.13 | Guerin | morfol: unfortunately, all such tools must be run before the deletion |
| 07:43.24 | morfol | guerin hehe |
| 07:43.41 | morfol | i got a backup to restore, but want to try undelete first |
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| 07:44.14 | FlightOfStairs | hello |
| 07:44.25 | Guerin | morfol: try `photorec' in the testdisk package |
| 07:44.42 | Guerin | morfol: if you're using ext2, you may have better luck |
| 07:45.21 | FlightOfStairs | I just moved from gentoo to debian the other day and have just noticed that only one of my two cores is being used and instead of 2gb of ram it shows only 885mb |
| 07:45.29 | FlightOfStairs | can anyone help? |
| 07:45.49 | man_in_shack | FlightOfStairs, sounds like your kernel isn't configured properly |
| 07:45.49 | Guerin | FlightOfStairs: use a real kernel. |
| 07:45.57 | Guerin | FlightOfStairs: that is, a debian kernel. |
| 07:46.18 | FlightOfStairs | I am, afaik |
| 07:46.30 | Guerin | FlightOfStairs: don't guess. uname -r |
| 07:46.52 | FlightOfStairs | 2.6.26-1-486 |
| 07:47.02 | man_in_shack | lol, 486 |
| 07:47.10 | man_in_shack | with 2GB ram |
| 07:47.19 | FlightOfStairs | oh :P |
| 07:47.20 | man_in_shack | FlightOfStairs, you need to choose a more suitable kernel |
| 07:47.23 | FlightOfStairs | now i feel silly |
| 07:47.35 | Guerin | FlightOfStairs: :) |
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| 07:52.34 | tziku | hello, i'm trying to setup an .htacces but is not working. I putt all info here: http://pastebin.com/d27199920 . Can somebody help me please ? I am using DEBIAN |
| 07:52.59 | man_in_shack | tziku, isn't this more of an apache issue? |
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| 07:53.07 | Guerin | tziku: #apache |
| 07:53.15 | tziku | ok, thanks |
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| 07:53.30 | man_in_shack | and that pastebin has nowhere near all the information |
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| 07:54.46 | \amethyst | tziku: check your /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/* you probably have AllowOverride None; you need at least AllowOverride AuthConfig |
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| 07:58.10 | Kunalagon | hello, Is there any GUI for configuring PPPOE connectuion, wireless for example ? |
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| 08:02.28 | man_in_shack | hmm, the build is still getting stripped of symbols |
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| 08:14.55 | debian | Hi |
| 08:15.11 | debian | after latest upgrade, grub broke my debian installation |
| 08:15.59 | stoned | hi |
| 08:16.04 | rvsjoen | how do you know it was grub that broke it |
| 08:16.29 | freebse | lol grub can not break anything really :) |
| 08:16.46 | stoned | grub is the fault! |
| 08:16.58 | stoned | when in doubt, blame grub |
| 08:17.22 | stoned | Guest56626, you need to have a nonguest nick? |
| 08:17.40 | freebse | na when in doubt blame the hardware, it is your hardware mate :) |
| 08:17.46 | stoned | 03:17 [Guest56626(n=ubuntu@aeap173.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl)] cannot send to debian channel |
| 08:17.50 | stoned | he /msg me this |
| 08:18.02 | rvsjoen | not registered probably |
| 08:18.12 | stoned | 03:17 [Guest56626(n=ubuntu@aeap173.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl)] lol Usiu #debian :Cannot send to channel so cannot change nicks |
| 08:18.15 | stoned | heh |
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| 08:18.26 | rvsjoen | isnt this one of those channels you need to be identified to talk ? |
| 08:18.27 | stoned | Guest56626, /part #debian |
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| 08:18.50 | Usiu | ok I am back |
| 08:18.59 | freebse | ya is |
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| 08:19.07 | Usiu | When I run grub-emu |
| 08:19.10 | rvsjoen | yay |
| 08:19.16 | Usiu | I get error that initrd is invaild command |
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| 08:19.45 | Usiu | error: unknown command `initrd' |
| 08:20.23 | Usiu | when I remove initrd from command line in grub booting menu |
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| 08:20.33 | Usiu | syntax error |
| 08:20.33 | Usiu | Incorrect command |
| 08:20.33 | Usiu | error: unknown command `linux' |
| 08:20.52 | rvsjoen | isnt that the new version of grub ? |
| 08:21.06 | Usiu | yes grub2 but it was working 1,5 year |
| 08:21.16 | Usiu | version 1.96 |
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| 08:21.54 | rvsjoen | ok |
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| 08:22.48 | rvsjoen | can you pastebin your grub.cfg ? |
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| 08:24.39 | Usiu | rvsjoen: http://pastebin.com/d5eb91498 |
| 08:25.39 | Usiu | everything seems correct to me |
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| 08:27.48 | Usiu | Is it possible to dhcp from chroot-ed enviroment ? |
| 08:28.07 | dazjorz | Usiu: try setting linux to kernel |
| 08:28.07 | Usiu | cause I get error /proc/net/dev: No such file or directory |
| 08:28.17 | dazjorz | not sure though, this format grub.conf is one I'm unfamiliar with |
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| 08:28.57 | rvsjoen | Usiu : check that proc is mounted |
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| 08:30.14 | Usiu | rvsjoen: yeah I thought mount -a will mount it, but did not... fool I am |
| 08:31.48 | suzu | hi |
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| 08:35.12 | Usiu | rvsjoen: looks like this grub version is broken;/ |
| 08:35.41 | Usiu | and marked unfixed |
| 08:36.00 | Usiu | I will install older |
| 08:36.23 | Usiu | rvsjoen: debian snapshots ? |
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| 08:37.23 | rvsjoen | ok |
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| 08:43.57 | Usiu | rvsjoen: after downgrade problem still exist ;/ |
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| 08:44.15 | Usiu | I am out of ideas |
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| 08:47.05 | huwenfeng | one server run rsync as daemon, i use ps aux | grep rsync | grep -v grep to get the number of rsync. how can i caculate the real rsync number from this number? |
| 08:48.24 | Usiu | anyone having problem with grub-pc |
| 08:48.25 | Usiu | ? |
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| 08:50.16 | \amethyst | huwenfeng: what do you mean by "the real rsync number"? |
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| 08:53.38 | x1250 | huwenfeng, why don't use pidof o pgrep? pidof rsync, pgrep rsync |
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| 08:54.23 | x1250 | or* |
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| 08:56.49 | huwenfeng | oh .good, i know how to do that now |
| 08:56.59 | huwenfeng | \amethyst: i mean, the rsync i entered at the command |
| 08:57.10 | huwenfeng | \amethyst: that's the real rsync |
| 08:57.18 | \amethyst | huh? |
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| 08:57.40 | huwenfeng | \amethyst: yes, that's what i mean |
| 08:57.43 | \amethyst | what did you enter at the command? |
| 08:57.55 | huwenfeng | rsync xxxxxx xxxxx:xxxxx |
| 08:58.00 | huwenfeng | \amethyst: this |
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| 08:58.33 | \amethyst | where's the number there? |
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| 09:00.05 | rvsjoen | you talking about the arguments ? |
| 09:00.14 | rvsjoen | add -ee to ps |
| 09:00.42 | huwenfeng | \amethyst: i mean, i run rsync at some client server, then i want to get the real rsync at the server where rsync daemon is running. |
| 09:01.49 | \amethyst | Sorry, I'm still not understanding... what do you mean by "the real rsync"? |
| 09:02.22 | \amethyst | the directory it's copying? the client's IP address? the PID of the rsync process on the client? |
| 09:02.44 | huwenfeng | hehe, i mean a single rsync session |
| 09:02.59 | \amethyst | you want to find the PID on the server from the client? |
| 09:03.16 | huwenfeng | no no no no no no |
| 09:04.08 | huwenfeng | from a , you rsync something to B, |
| 09:04.29 | huwenfeng | in B, you use "ps ax | grep rsync" to find the number |
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| 09:04.47 | \amethyst | the PID, ok |
| 09:04.48 | huwenfeng | and then ,from that number, you got how many rsync A is running |
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| 09:05.02 | \amethyst | ohh |
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| 09:05.24 | \amethyst | so you want to count the number of rsyncs a particular client is doing |
| 09:05.31 | huwenfeng | yes |
| 09:05.35 | huwenfeng | hehe, |
| 09:05.40 | \amethyst | rsync protocol and not ssh? |
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| 09:13.18 | amitz | How to create windows that start in X,Y position in Xephyr? Xephyr :0 -screen 400x400+X+Y doesn't work (where X and Y is the coordinate). Debian Lenny. |
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| 09:15.49 | makav3lithedon | hello, i dont know where to ask this q, but its linux one |
| 09:16.13 | makav3lithedon | how to disable group member from changing the ownership of a file |
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| 09:16.49 | freebse | hi folks, is there anyone who can tell me how to add programs for files in firefox to open for example irc links |
| 09:16.58 | makav3lithedon | I mean when a group user uploads a file to the server it changes the ownership and group of a file to its user |
| 09:17.06 | freebse | the problem is I can add a programm but can not give additional parameters |
| 09:17.28 | freebse | like irc open with xchat -channel etc. |
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| 09:18.07 | man_in_shack | makav3lithedon, you might be able to adjust that in the server settings |
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| 09:18.13 | freebse | it just do not work to give additonal commands, I can choose a programm from a list that is it |
| 09:18.20 | man_in_shack | makav3lithedon, but you haven't even mentioned the protocol you're using :) |
| 09:18.30 | freebse | where does ff store this settings so I can manually edit it |
| 09:19.04 | man_in_shack | freebse, debian doesn't have firefox any more |
| 09:19.15 | man_in_shack | freebse, you should probably talk to #firefox |
| 09:19.17 | freebse | I know iceweasel |
| 09:19.34 | man_in_shack | you keep saying "firefox" |
| 09:19.46 | freebse | man_in_shack: the problem is a broken purple link handler in unstable since about 2 days |
| 09:20.12 | freebse | man_in_shack: ya well I am sorry, but it is pretty much the same besides a registered name |
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| 09:20.59 | man_in_shack | it's similar enough, yes |
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| 09:21.24 | freebse | anyway working on the purple bug, I just wanted to have a workaround, for iceweasel or konqueror |
| 09:21.51 | freebse | so I can add a workaround while fixing it |
| 09:22.07 | man_in_shack | freebse, there's probably an extension somewhere that lets you do it |
| 09:22.22 | freebse | forget about it I will ask in #firefox |
| 09:22.31 | x1250 | freebse, maybe this helps? http://ernstfamily.ch/jonathan/2008/10/ssh-and-telnet-protocol-handler-for-firefox/ |
| 09:22.59 | x1250 | its just an example, but I guess thats the way to do it |
| 09:23.05 | freebse | x1250: ya this helps thx a lot |
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| 09:24.25 | freebse | x1250: it is a workaround, I asked in firefox, but they told me it is not possible to add additional commands to an application you choose from a dropdown list |
| 09:25.52 | freebse | opera was easy to fix for the time purple is broken, iceweasel just don't have enough options, pretty hard to change this setting... anyway thx for the script page |
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| 09:36.27 | fh_BE_LU | hi everyone |
| 09:36.37 | fh_BE_LU | and btw happy new year to all |
| 09:36.40 | fh_BE_LU | :) |
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| 09:36.58 | man_in_shack | that was 20 days ago :| |
| 09:37.02 | freebse | lol way past :) pretty late |
| 09:37.19 | fh_BE_LU | well better today than never no :) |
| 09:37.29 | rdz | i guess, the chinese new year was ten days ago |
| 09:37.44 | rdz | probably somewhere else, they have new year now |
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| 09:38.49 | fh_BE_LU | I need some help setting up procmail in a exim4+courier+openldap enviroment |
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| 09:39.00 | freebse | Julian calendar, but still jan 6th :) |
| 09:39.23 | freebse | china but they got new year about end Feb |
| 09:40.01 | fh_BE_LU | I'm looking for a transport for procmail |
| 09:41.39 | fh_BE_LU | procmail_pipe is not suitable in such context |
| 09:41.48 | petemc | fh_BE_LU: the default config should have a router/transports for procmail |
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| 09:41.52 | petemc | fh_BE_LU: /usr/share/doc/exim4-base/examples/example.conf.gz |
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| 09:43.56 | fh_BE_LU | the default config doesn't give any result |
| 09:44.07 | fh_BE_LU | no error either |
| 09:44.09 | Gigantic | uhm, how do you format an SD completely? |
| 09:44.17 | petemc | fh_BE_LU: result? error? you read it |
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| 09:44.36 | Gigantic | looks like an SD I have has a password... God knows the password |
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| 09:44.56 | fh_BE_LU | well the router call the transport |
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| 09:45.09 | fh_BE_LU | and the transport product nothing |
| 09:45.19 | Gigantic | I guess it's mbr is coded oir something... |
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| 09:49.21 | Gigantic | I also need a pdf viewer for my Simbian :) |
| 09:49.32 | Gigantic | any free one? |
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| 09:55.15 | streuner_ | Gigantic: i dont like Nokia stuff much ! just check out #symbian |
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| 09:56.27 | JyZyXEL | sudo ext2resize /dev/sdb1 150G |
| 09:56.27 | JyZyXEL | ext2resize: found an inode with a incorrect link count. run e2fsck first. |
| 09:56.34 | JyZyXEL | ?? |
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| 09:58.59 | JyZyXEL | how do i run e2fsck first? |
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| 09:59.13 | Eulex | JyZyXEL, you run e2fsck on the partition? |
| 09:59.15 | JyZyXEL | theres like tons of this that program can do |
| 09:59.41 | JyZyXEL | run it with what flags? |
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| 09:59.50 | Gigantic | k |
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| 10:01.15 | Eulex | JyZyXEL, appropriate for fixing that error ;) no seriously, I don't know, but it doesn't have _that_ many options that are related to fixing the fs |
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| 10:02.21 | JyZyXEL | i tried sudo e2fsck /dev/sdb |
| 10:02.26 | JyZyXEL | e2fsck: Superblock invalid, trying backup blocks... |
| 10:02.27 | JyZyXEL | e2fsck: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sdb |
| 10:02.44 | Eulex | e2fsck operates on _partitions_ |
| 10:02.52 | JyZyXEL | no it doesn't |
| 10:03.18 | JyZyXEL | Usage: e2fsck [-panyrcdfvtDFV] [-b superblock] [-B blocksize] [-I inode_buffer_blocks] [-P process_inode_size] [-l|-L bad_blocks_file] [-C fd] [-j external_journal] [-E extended-options] device |
| 10:03.28 | Eulex | yeah well, file systems. but file systems are usually stored on partitions. |
| 10:03.29 | JyZyXEL | see it says "device" |
| 10:03.39 | Eulex | e2fsck - check a Linux ext2/ext3 file system |
| 10:04.00 | JyZyXEL | well they both cannot be right |
| 10:04.22 | Eulex | there are many types of devices |
| 10:04.37 | JyZyXEL | sudo e2fsck -f /dev/sdb1 |
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| 10:04.46 | Eulex | you wouldn't be getting much out of running e2fsck on a device file representing your keyboard :) |
| 10:07.14 | JyZyXEL | Error reading block 8258042 (Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read) while getting next inode from scan. Ignore error<y>? |
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| 10:07.31 | JyZyXEL | lol i don't understand any of this |
| 10:08.17 | JyZyXEL | it just keeps repeating for hundreds of blocks |
| 10:08.29 | Eulex | JyZyXEL, uh, that looks bad. look up the -c option of e2fsck. |
| 10:08.44 | Eulex | JyZyXEL, has the hardware been unreliable before? |
| 10:08.52 | JyZyXEL | i don't know |
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| 10:09.04 | tsairox | hi all, i just installed debian 4.0. My lcd hdtv is a Samsung 40" ln40a5503p3fxza with an nvidia GeForce 5500. My resolution doesn't go above 640 x 480. Here is my xorg.conf file pastebin.com/m624c79b5. Can anyone help me? |
| 10:09.14 | JyZyXEL | there was few badsectors |
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| 10:09.33 | JyZyXEL | i guess its borked |
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| 10:11.05 | Eulex | tsairox, I doubt that is 4.0, try cat /etc/debian_version and dpkg -l libc6|tail -1 |
| 10:11.32 | JyZyXEL | ohhh niceee the dmesg is full of I/O errors |
| 10:12.39 | Eulex | JyZyXEL, check so that the IDE/SATA cable is correctly attached, maybe try the drive in another machine, make sure the driver you're using aren't buggy etc... |
| 10:12.56 | tsairox | Eulex: hold, restarted..... |
| 10:13.00 | JyZyXEL | its probably because of the cheap USB to Sata chip |
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| 10:13.11 | JyZyXEL | Bus 004 Device 011: ID 152d:2338 JMicron Technology Corp. / JMicron USA Technology Corp. JM20337 Hi-Speed USB to SATA & PATA Combo Bridge |
| 10:13.28 | Eulex | maybe |
| 10:13.31 | JyZyXEL | JMicron is a bullshit company that only makes crap |
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| 10:14.05 | Eulex | well... you bought it :P |
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| 10:14.19 | JyZyXEL | how can you know? |
| 10:14.33 | Eulex | ;) |
| 10:14.55 | JyZyXEL | i bought this IDE to SATA adapter once |
| 10:15.03 | JyZyXEL | it didn't work on any of my computers |
| 10:15.16 | JyZyXEL | it was JMicron chip |
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| 10:26.47 | enouf | [18:10:47] <ktwilight> enouf, ping <-- wow ..searching all that backscroll for that! |
| 10:26.59 | ktwilight | haha |
| 10:27.12 | ktwilight | and to find out that i don't need your assistance anymore ;P |
| 10:27.15 | ktwilight | how's things anyways? |
| 10:27.36 | enouf | ktwilight: sweety, please PM me or something, if needed |
| 10:27.43 | ktwilight | :) |
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| 10:32.01 | enouf | JyZyXEL: this isn't related to your issue.. is it? http://www.tummy.com/journals/entries/jafo_20081008_181615 |
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| 10:33.13 | telmich | hello |
| 10:34.18 | telmich | what's the right component to report a bug to, if lvm code is executed in initrd before the scsi driver is loaded and thus no lvm devices are detected? |
| 10:34.50 | fh_BE_LU | ok I get it works |
| 10:34.55 | fh_BE_LU | thx for you help |
| 10:35.27 | telmich | I'm using lenny beta2 installer with a megaraid controller |
| 10:35.43 | enouf | telmich: linux-image-version , i'd guess .. the initrd is created upon installation |
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| 10:36.37 | _buffer | hi |
| 10:36.39 | enouf | telmich: reportbug is a nice tool to such |
| 10:37.00 | _buffer | why is the nagios-plugin packages in etch repo newer than the stable package on the nagios website? |
| 10:37.09 | telmich | enouf: yep, I know about that |
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| 10:38.15 | enouf | telmich: however, have you tried adding the scsi modules needed to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and ran update-initramfs ? |
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| 10:38.53 | FilipeMaia | What is the UID with which the executable maps of autofs are executed? |
| 10:39.16 | enouf | likely blkid output |
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| 10:39.47 | enouf | ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid |
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| 10:40.40 | enouf | thinks uid is a typo for uuid |
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| 10:42.07 | jelledc | Hello, anyone who could help me a bit with choosing the right backup tool? |
| 10:42.10 | andrew[andrboot] | Hi; silyl question, im trying to get the lovely resoltuion of either 1440x900 or 1650x1280, on my screen buuut when i set Vritual 1440 900" it does a massive screen |
| 10:42.32 | jelledc | andrew[andrboot]: don't go virtual |
| 10:42.58 | andrew[andrboot] | jelledc how do i specifiy the right rest then |
| 10:43.08 | andrew[andrboot] | "Modes" don't wokr |
| 10:43.09 | andrew[andrboot] | at all |
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| 10:43.28 | rprettyman | andrew[andrboot]: are you on a VM |
| 10:43.40 | andrew[andrboot] | no rprettyman its a physical box |
| 10:43.47 | jelledc | hmm strange then |
| 10:44.01 | rprettyman | andrwe[andrboot] what type of videocard |
| 10:44.14 | andrew[andrboot] | its an onboard ati pos thing. it cand handle the res np |
| 10:44.31 | enouf | on my screen == in X or Console? |
| 10:44.37 | andrew[andrboot] | gdm? |
| 10:44.39 | andrew[andrboot] | i think i fixed |
| 10:44.40 | jelledc | so your xorg.conf lists the right resolution in the right mode? |
| 10:44.40 | andrew[andrboot] | YAY :D |
| 10:44.42 | andrew[andrboot] | rofl. i fixed it |
| 10:44.48 | andrew[andrboot] | lol. i had an x where i shouldn't have |
| 10:44.49 | jelledc | nice :) |
| 10:44.49 | andrew[andrboot] | :| |
| 10:44.54 | enouf | .. |
| 10:45.08 | andrew[andrboot] | rofl. i had 1440x900 , - did that ages ago.. didn't work 1440 900 woorked |
| 10:45.08 | andrew[andrboot] | :D |
| 10:45.10 | jelledc | usually something like that |
| 10:45.17 | rprettyman | andrew[andrboot]:n/m but if you had the ati module and ati config you could set it with ati's gui |
| 10:45.36 | andrew[andrboot] | rofl. rprettyman VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage XL (rev 27) thats the card man |
| 10:45.37 | andrew[andrboot] | lo |
| 10:45.43 | jelledc | so could anyone help me with choosing a backup tool? |
| 10:45.53 | jelledc | non-gui |
| 10:46.10 | petemc | dirvish works for me |
| 10:46.20 | enouf | tar gz rsync |
| 10:46.31 | andrew[andrboot] | lactually jelledc enouf i take that back.. it still defaults to 800x600 |
| 10:46.32 | andrew[andrboot] | :| |
| 10:46.42 | enouf | dirvish, bacula, amanda, etc |
| 10:47.03 | rprettyman | andrew[andrboot]: go to ati's website and download the driver (modules) for your video card |
| 10:47.11 | enouf | no |
| 10:47.13 | jelledc | myeah well tar and rsync are too simple |
| 10:47.25 | enouf | really? |
| 10:47.31 | jelledc | I'm backing up a fileserver for our company |
| 10:47.31 | andrew[andrboot] | rprettyman i just want to set res not modules. |
| 10:47.39 | andrew[andrboot] | i don't care about hte modules. its just a "default" xorg config |
| 10:47.42 | jelledc | dirvish seems nice, though |
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| 10:48.12 | rprettyman | andrew[andrboot]: http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=xserver-xorg-video-ati |
| 10:48.30 | enouf | oh, for a "company" .. look at backuppc, etc |
| 10:48.37 | enouf | lmao |
| 10:48.39 | andrew[andrboot] | rprettyman i have that installed |
| 10:48.44 | jelledc | hehe |
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| 10:49.35 | jelledc | yeah well it works nice to manage backups, but I'm not into using tapes or extra computers |
| 10:50.01 | petemc | what do you use, then? |
| 10:50.08 | rprettyman | andrew[andrboot]: http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.HTML if your resolution isn't compatitble you might want to uninstall the debian version and download the latest from ati's website |
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| 10:51.22 | rprettyman | andrew[andrboot]: once that is properly installed, it should autodect the native resolution of your monitor and install the config tool to change it in x |
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| 10:51.55 | andrew[andrboot] | o.o |
| 10:52.36 | makav3lithedon | clear |
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| 10:52.56 | jelly | rprettyman: for a Rage XL, there's absolutely no need to use a nonfree driver |
| 10:53.16 | rprettyman | andrew[andrboot]: other wise the current module will keep autodecting your native to be 800x600 all check that under Section "inputDevice" Driver "ati" |
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| 10:53.36 | andrew[andrboot] | rprettyman ati doesn't have alinux driver for my card :) |
| 10:53.37 | andrew[andrboot] | heh |
| 10:53.42 | rprettyman | jelly: the nonfree driver has better monitor detection |
| 10:54.19 | jelly | rprettyman: fglrx only works with radeon cards! |
| 10:54.30 | FilipeMaia | Does linux ignore setuid on shell scripts? |
| 10:54.46 | rprettyman | andrew[andrboot]: what driver is in your xorg.conf |
| 10:55.01 | andrew[andrboot] | rprettyman it was mach* i just changed it to ati |
| 10:55.04 | andrew[andrboot] | still doesn't do anything |
| 10:55.05 | andrew[andrboot] | o.o |
| 10:55.20 | jelly | rprettyman: ok, maybe I'm wrong; but still that's a 15yr old chip and is well supported |
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| 10:55.36 | jelly | andrew[andrboot]: have you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log already? |
| 10:55.36 | amitz | andrew[andrboot]: there is also "radeon", or "fglrx" but that requires you to compile it. |
| 10:55.46 | mosno | how can i find out why bpython might not be in Debian? |
| 10:55.48 | andrew[andrboot] | rofl. |
| 10:55.59 | jelly | amitz: dude, that card is not a radeon |
| 10:56.07 | mosno | apart from the obvious "no one thought to package it" |
| 10:56.51 | andrew[andrboot] | well, its an onboard card for a server :p |
| 10:56.53 | andrew[andrboot] | thats not that all |
| 10:56.54 | andrew[andrboot] | *old |
| 10:56.56 | andrew[andrboot] | heh |
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| 10:57.09 | jelly | andrew[andrboot]: the design is. |
| 10:57.24 | jelly | it's common on server motherboards |
| 10:57.26 | amitz | jelly: oh, I thought all ati = radeon. |
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| 10:57.45 | jelly | amitz: this is 2 generations before the first radeon |
| 10:58.06 | amitz | jelly: curse those marketing droids who come out with different naming conventions :-) |
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| 10:59.44 | bartvk | sql |
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| 10:59.48 | bartvk | oeps |
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| 11:01.04 | jelly | andrew[andrboot]: pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /etc/X11/xorg.conf; which debian release are you using? |
| 11:01.30 | enouf | andrew[andrboot]: <andrew[andrboot]> well, its an onboard card for a server :p <-- has no idea what 1440 is ... rethink your trolling methods |
| 11:02.07 | jelly | enouf: please stop overusing the troll word |
| 11:02.28 | enouf | overusing? .. is that even a word? |
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| 11:03.10 | enouf | jelly: nothing 15yr old knows what 1440 is |
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| 11:03.33 | telmich | lol, while trying to report a bug I found a bug in bugreport |
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| 11:03.53 | enouf | telmich: /msg dpkg bts |
| 11:03.56 | ChrisW1 | hey all, hopefully a simple question: how do I mount an NFS path that requires authentication? |
| 11:04.11 | ChrisW1 | I don't seem to be able to specify a username and password, likely incompetence on my part... |
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| 11:05.10 | debian_noob | i want to register my nickname |
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| 11:05.27 | jelly | enouf: since monitors can give their info via DDC, the chip doesn't need to have every modeline in its database already; I'm guessing DDC info isn't read correctly so he'll likely have to do some xorg.conf editing, but without seeing the log and conf can't be sure |
| 11:05.27 | Maior | debian_noob: /msg nickserv help |
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| 11:05.39 | enouf | ask in #freenode or #freenode-help debian_noob |
| 11:06.01 | debian_noob | maior:i already got a mail that asked me to type a command |
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| 11:06.19 | debian_noob | maior:when i did that , it is asking me to login |
| 11:06.30 | enouf | jelly: 1440 is a laptop resolution, period |
| 11:07.01 | ronr | hi, I need to do some video conversion (bitrate) on a video, it in a crappy microschoft format (wmv3 for video and wmav2 for audio, total of 6 audio and 6 video streams), it looks like ffmpeg can't do much with it (ffplay can play it, but the quality is crap), are there any packages I can use / check out for this? |
| 11:07.05 | enouf | s/laptop/craptop |
| 11:07.35 | petemc | ronr: mencoder, vlc |
| 11:08.01 | ronr | petemc: thx |
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| 11:08.10 | andrew[andrboot] | hmm. |
| 11:08.57 | andrew[andrboot] | okas, another question, diff thist ime.. i have 2 users on the same serv, one i use via nomachine, the other the actual screen.. gfor the one user i can change the sound dsettings in gnome.. the other user account cannot.. any reason why? |
| 11:09.12 | lamba | enouf: ?? 1440 is used by 16:9 monitors. |
| 11:09.37 | andrew[andrboot] | okas, another question, diff thist ime.. i have 2 users on the same serv, one i use via nomachine, the other the actual screen.. gfor the one user i can change the sound dsettings in gnome.. the other user account cannot.. any reason why? |
| 11:10.06 | enouf | lamba: yeah, and we had 16:9 15 years ago on Server onboard chipsets |
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| 11:11.51 | jelly | enouf: that doesn't matter |
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| 11:12.18 | enouf | neither do trolls |
| 11:12.36 | jelly | eh, have fun |
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| 11:13.00 | lamba | enouf: ?? 19" monitors run 1440. including mine. just sayin. |
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| 11:13.39 | jelly | has a rackmount console doing 1440x900 |
| 11:13.57 | enouf | lamba: please read all info prior given.. and no most 15/17/19 monitors are 5:4 |
| 11:14.23 | ChrisW1 | any help on mounting an NFS share that requires authentication? |
| 11:14.40 | ChrisW1 | mount 192...:/public /mnt/nas gives me a "Permission denied" |
| 11:15.22 | ChrisW1 | but I don't know how to specify a username/password with mount |
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| 11:16.16 | ktwilight | ChrisW1, -o username=here,password=here IIRC |
| 11:16.24 | ktwilight | am sure man mount will tell ya |
| 11:16.50 | debian_noob | piko:im back |
| 11:17.03 | ChrisW1 | ktwilight: thanks :-) |
| 11:17.24 | ChrisW1 | man mount doesn't list those options but I'll re-check |
| 11:18.02 | ChrisW1 | "Bad nfs mount parameter: username"... |
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| 11:18.31 | jelly | ChrisW1: do you have access to logs on the nfs server? |
| 11:18.32 | debian_noob | piko:you saw the output of aptitude search cups? |
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| 11:20.23 | geophoenix | hi |
| 11:22.03 | debian_noob | my printer is not being detected in p-setup |
| 11:22.14 | debian_noob | can anybody help me? |
| 11:23.14 | geophoenix | which printer do you use ? |
| 11:23.23 | piko | debian_noob: hi, try gnome-cups-manager package |
| 11:23.30 | ChrisW1 | jelly: no, sadly not, it's a little nas box... |
| 11:23.39 | ChrisW1 | NFS is turned on, but that's about as much as I can tell :-( |
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| 11:23.56 | piko | geophoenix: he has paralled printer and I am not very good in cofiguring these |
| 11:24.08 | geophoenix | hmm |
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| 11:25.37 | debian_noob | piko:there is no such package |
| 11:25.44 | piko | debian_noob: install gnome-cups-manager, run gnome-cups-manager, it should be easier |
| 11:25.50 | piko | debian_noob: are you sure? |
| 11:26.06 | debian_noob | piko:i cant find it on aptitude or synaptic |
| 11:27.00 | piko | debian_noob: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list somewhere |
| 11:27.02 | debian_noob | geophoenix:i use an HP Laserjet 6L |
| 11:27.34 | debian_noob | piko:deb ftp://ftp.nara.wide.ad.jp/debian lenny main contrib non-free |
| 11:27.35 | debian_noob | deb-src ftp://ftp.nara.wide.ad.jp/debian lenny main contrib non-free |
| 11:28.06 | ChrisW1 | found the right knobs to twiddle, cheers for the help :-) |
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| 11:28.30 | themill | judd versions gnome-cups-manager |
| 11:28.30 | judd | themill: gnome-cups-manager -- etch: 0.31-3 |
| 11:28.37 | themill | it's only in etch |
| 11:28.59 | geophoenix | : / |
| 11:29.16 | geophoenix | install the stable release |
| 11:29.23 | debian_noob | ok |
| 11:29.27 | themill | debian_noob == peej? |
| 11:29.37 | debian_noob | themill:??? |
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| 11:30.03 | jelly | that translates as "no" |
| 11:30.04 | themill | debian_noob: there was a guy called peej asking about an HP LJ 6 yesterday... just wondering if it was you. |
| 11:30.04 | debian_noob | geophoenix:should i change my source.list temporarily? |
| 11:30.04 | piko | debian_noob: geophoenix no, the stable release is quite old |
| 11:30.11 | themill | debian_noob: no |
| 11:30.15 | piko | debian_noob: no, do not do it |
| 11:30.23 | debian_noob | themill:i was not peej |
| 11:30.28 | geophoenix | old ? |
| 11:30.33 | piko | debian_noob: if you mix several versions, you will have problems |
| 11:30.35 | geophoenix | i use stable r |
| 11:30.50 | piko | geophoenix: yes, stable comparing to testing is afaik quite old |
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| 11:31.21 | debian_noob | then what should i do? |
| 11:31.28 | Stuckey | Hello, I'm trying to mount an external hard drive in Lenny. This is all I see in dmesg: http://paste.debian.net/26527/ |
| 11:31.31 | geophoenix | correct |
| 11:31.32 | Stuckey | Could anyone tell me how I can mount it? |
| 11:31.51 | themill | debian_noob: http://www.openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-LaserJet_6L says to use the hplip package. Try either hplip-gui or hp-makeuri |
| 11:31.55 | enouf | you mount FSs and partitions, not HDDs |
| 11:32.24 | enouf | add volumes to that list |
| 11:32.30 | piko | debian_noob: yes, hplip-gui seems to be good idea, try it |
| 11:32.36 | pzn | in debian etch sshd_config, I'd like to allow root logins only with "PasswordAuthentication no", and other usernames with "PasswordAuthentication yes", how to do it? |
| 11:34.31 | themill | pzn: you probably want to set PermitRootLogin to forced-commands-only. man 5 sshd_config for details |
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| 11:35.13 | enouf | pzn: http://denyhosts.sourceforge.net/faq.html |
| 11:35.44 | debian_noob | piko:hplip-gui is installed |
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| 11:37.59 | debian_noob | piko:when i run hplip then ot says no installed devices found |
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| 11:39.21 | debian_noob | piko:in hp-setup it cannot detect the printer |
| 11:39.36 | piko | debian_noob: could you paste uname -a |
| 11:39.40 | henry-nicolas | Hello everybody, I'm looking for a Postfix option (already asked on #postfix, they seems to be spleeping) to avoid retry sending emails when the first try failled (for a mailing list) |
| 11:39.42 | themill | debian_noob: is the printer plugged in and switched on? Do you have a /dev/parport0? |
| 11:40.00 | debian_noob | themill:the printer is plugged in |
| 11:40.19 | themill | debian_noob: did I see you saying it was a parallel port printer? |
| 11:40.32 | debian_noob | themill:yes |
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| 11:40.44 | zu22 | running lenny, which package provides xmkmf? |
| 11:41.07 | themill | dpkg: tell zu22 about apt-file |
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| 11:42.21 | debian_noob | piko:uname -a=Linux kash 2.6.26-1-686 #1 SMP Mon Dec 15 18:15:07 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux |
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| 11:42.40 | enouf | lsmod | egrep 'par|port' ; grep par /proc/ioports ?? |
| 11:43.08 | zu22 | themill: wow apt-file pwns! thx |
| 11:43.43 | themill | zu22: :) it's very handy |
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| 11:44.02 | zu22 | :) |
| 11:44.36 | themill | debian_noob: can you pastebin the output of enouf's two commands? |
| 11:44.44 | debian_noob | yes |
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| 11:45.49 | enouf | themill: however, i forget if this is a "local" printer or networked, or what... |
| 11:45.57 | debian_noob | themill:http://pastebin.com/m61792731 |
| 11:46.00 | yang | How can I tag a package for not being removed with the upgrade script ? |
| 11:46.08 | enouf | !hold |
| 11:46.09 | dpkg | it has been said that hold is a status flag that tells the package manager not to automatically upgrade a package. To hold a package: 'echo <package> hold|dpkg --set-selections'. It is also possible to use aptitude: 'aptitude hold <package>'. Notice that the hold flag set using aptitude might be ignored by other package managers (ie Update Manager and Synaptic). Always hold back packages using 'dpkg' to make sure! |
| 11:46.15 | debian_noob | enouf:its a local printer |
| 11:46.30 | themill | !wayttd yang |
| 11:46.30 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, yang? |
| 11:46.49 | yang | keep the old postgresql package |
| 11:47.00 | enouf | yang: removed? /msg dpkg dist-upgrade |
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| 11:47.35 | debian_noob | themill:there is no output for the 2nd command |
| 11:47.36 | themill | yang: you want to keep postgresql 7.5 but run lenny, or something? |
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| 11:48.47 | zu22 | i have system a which is lenny with many packages, i have system b which is lenny fresh install from cd, how can i generate a list of packages from a and have them installed on b? |
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| 11:49.05 | debian_noob | themill:saw it? |
| 11:49.06 | enouf | debian_noob: pastebin output of grep -i par /va/log/dmesg |
| 11:49.11 | enouf | debian_noob: pastebin output of grep -i par /var/log/dmesg |
| 11:49.11 | hanibana | hi all :) |
| 11:49.26 | themill | zu22: /msg dpkg aptitude clone ; /msg dpkg debian clone |
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| 11:49.48 | hanibana | how can I list the files in a package at Debian remote mirror...? |
| 11:50.10 | zu22 | themill: thanks brother |
| 11:50.15 | debian_noob | enouf:http://pastebin.com/m1bb3578f |
| 11:50.16 | enouf | apt-file search .. |
| 11:50.25 | themill | dpkg: tell hanibana about apt-file |
| 11:50.26 | jelly | hanibana: there's no easy way. /msg dpkg apt-file |
| 11:50.27 | enouf | !pdo |
| 11:50.32 | dpkg | http://packages.debian.org/ - here you can search for debian packages and their contents. Pretty Damned Obvious, isn't it?, or http://people.debian.org/, in some contexts. Maybe even http://planet.debian.org/ |
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| 11:51.00 | enouf | er apt-file list <pkgname> |
| 11:51.23 | themill | debian_noob: line 5 of your paste: parport_pc 00:09: disabled |
| 11:51.31 | enouf | heh |
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| 11:51.44 | hanibana | thank you all. Can't do that bye apt-cache ? |
| 11:51.54 | enouf | no |
| 11:51.59 | debian_noob | themill:how do i enable it? |
| 11:52.02 | zu22 | is there someplace online that has all the #debian dpkg bot's factoids? ideally i would liek to download them all and use in my own python based bot :) |
| 11:52.25 | hanibana | ok thanks all... |
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| 11:52.26 | enouf | hanibana: dpkg -L <pkgname> for installed pkgs |
| 11:52.32 | themill | dpkg: tell zu22 about search dpkg |
| 11:52.43 | enouf | !dlocate |
| 11:52.43 | dpkg | dlocate is probably now similar to <locate>, can be used to locate the package a file belongs to; "update-dlocatedb" to update the database to include recently installed files - has similar functionality as dpkg -S, but is faster |
| 11:52.53 | zu22 | themill: thx! |
| 11:54.05 | debian_noob | themill:can i enable it? |
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| 11:54.23 | enouf | debian_noob: see our BIOS |
| 11:54.31 | enouf | s/our/your |
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| 11:54.57 | debian_noob | enouf:what do you mean? |
| 11:55.26 | enouf | debian_noob: i mean; see your BIOS, and enable it |
| 11:55.45 | enouf | likely want ECP mode |
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| 11:56.02 | enouf | (bidirectional) |
| 11:56.21 | debian_noob | enouf:printer works in crappy windows xp |
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| 11:56.43 | enouf | hrm .. then BIOS isn't it .. |
| 11:57.34 | enouf | debian_noob: pastebin rgrep -i parport /etc/mod* |
| 11:58.42 | enouf | [ 7.530023] parport_pc: probe of 00:09 failed with error -22 |
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| 11:59.05 | themill | enouf: google tells me that this error can be cured sometimes by setting funky module parameters on module load (irq base etc) or by fiddling with kernel acpi boot params. But I've done my best to forget everything I ever knew about parallel ports... |
| 11:59.57 | debian_noob | enouf:http://pastebin.com/m16cfc55c |
| 11:59.58 | enouf | themill: me too .. |
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| 12:01.03 | enouf | hrm .. wtf with the arch-aliases? 64bit on 32userland? |
| 12:01.03 | pzn | themill: forced-commands-only solved my problem. thanks! |
| 12:01.16 | themill | pzn: excellent :) |
| 12:01.46 | debian_noob | enouf:then how are you helping me? |
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| 12:02.19 | pzn | themill: it was not exactly what I needed, but it solved!!! I wanted a remote root auth via publickey to be allowed to run any command. I had to "crack" a little the command=... thing... anyway, it worked! |
| 12:02.21 | enouf | nm .. doesn't matter - i have it here too |
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| 12:03.51 | debian_noob | enouf:any suggestions |
| 12:03.52 | themill | pzn: generally, force-commands-only is best for things like rsync, scp etc. |
| 12:04.04 | enouf | is behaving as a guru, but really is just a wizard behind the curtain |
| 12:04.19 | enouf | debian_noob: not really - themill had better ones |
| 12:04.31 | themill | I did? |
| 12:04.44 | enouf | compared to mine |
| 12:04.45 | debian_noob | themil:*claps* |
| 12:04.54 | enouf | which == null/void |
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| 12:05.35 | enouf | has no suggestions ; /me only ascertains information |
| 12:05.45 | debian_noob | enouf:so what do i do now? |
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| 12:06.26 | enouf | google ; see ##linux ; try some mailing lists ; see googlegroups/usenet |
| 12:07.03 | debian_noob | sure you cant help? |
| 12:08.24 | themill | debian_noob: do you have a /sys/devices/pnp0/00:09/resources? any output when you cat it? |
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| 12:10.45 | debian_noob | themill:http://pastebin.com/m7eaf11a5 |
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| 12:13.19 | telmich | I'm wondering whether experimental is not listed on http://wiki.debian.org/DebianNames |
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| 12:13.50 | enouf | it's not a release/version |
| 12:14.01 | jvm | hi. suppose i had one million files with a size like 1 mib, what filesystem would be suited best to organize them? |
| 12:14.28 | enouf | reiserfs 3.6 .. others will flame |
| 12:14.46 | themill | debian_noob: nfc... the only solutions that I've seen to this problem on the web have generally involved a bios upgrade. Perhaps try some suggestions from http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/6/11/390 as well... |
| 12:15.12 | enouf | !fs comparison |
| 12:15.13 | dpkg | it has been said that filesystem comparison is http://linuxgazette.net/102/piszcz.html or http://www.linuxmafia.com/faq/Filesystems/ or http://linuxgazette.net/122/piszcz.html, or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_systems |
| 12:15.25 | jvm | enouf, reiserfs uses a b-tree to organize files in a directory. it shouldnt matter if i split my files up into several directorys, right? |
| 12:15.42 | enouf | not AFAIK |
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| 12:16.25 | enouf | as a matter of fact, i would - ext2/3 has a 32K files per dir limit, IIRC |
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| 12:17.26 | jvm | jfs seems to be ahead of other filesystems concering a high number of files. |
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| 12:17.55 | enouf | is a head |
| 12:18.37 | bolt-work | collects heads |
| 12:18.53 | bolt-work | collects enouf |
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| 12:19.02 | Nameeater | might be the wrong place to ask, but I'm running debian. I have a couple of users on a machine of mine and I'd like to limit certain network ports to individual users, is there anyway I can achieve this? |
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| 12:19.24 | bolt-work | Nameeater: limit how? |
| 12:19.36 | enouf | he said |
| 12:19.41 | enouf | he/she |
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| 12:19.47 | Nameeater | bolt-work: so the inividual users can create a socket on their own port |
| 12:20.02 | khaleel5000 | hello, i want to install ati drivers on debian lenny , (the official .run package) i am following this guide http://technowizah.com/2006/10/debian-how-to-ati-drivers.html (in the step of build package should i use command --buildpkg Debian/etch or --buildpkg Debian/lenny ? |
| 12:20.04 | enouf | that's not what he/she said |
| 12:20.04 | Nameeater | but not other users ports |
| 12:20.23 | enouf | network ports != unix sockets |
| 12:20.40 | bolt-work | enouf: ... |
| 12:20.48 | enouf | ... |
| 12:20.51 | jvm | thanks enouf. |
| 12:21.01 | khaleel5000 | never mind got it |
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| 12:21.10 | themill | khaleel5000: we don't support the ati installed. If you want to do it that way, then you'll have to ask them. Otherwise, /msg dpkg fglrx |
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| 12:22.09 | Nameeater | do I need to explain some more, correct my terminology, or you just don't know enouf :) |
| 12:22.27 | enouf | bith |
| 12:22.30 | enouf | both |
| 12:22.50 | Nameeater | there was 3 options.. so handy |
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| 12:23.05 | khaleel5000 | themill: ok thnaks |
| 12:23.11 | enouf | i can suggest some sort of VMs to |
| 12:23.34 | enouf | lock down users -- or grsecurity patch |
| 12:23.35 | enouf | .. |
| 12:23.41 | enouf | chroot |
| 12:23.44 | enouf | wouldn't |
| 12:23.45 | enouf | be |
| 12:23.50 | enouf | effective |
| 12:23.51 | enouf | .. |
| 12:23.56 | enouf | FUCK |
| 12:24.06 | christoz | hello, is there any yakuake-like terminal which is based on gnome? |
| 12:24.10 | enouf | stupid |
| 12:24.22 | enouf | space |
| 12:24.25 | enouf | bar |
| 12:24.26 | enouf | is |
| 12:24.33 | enouf | actingasEnter |
| 12:24.34 | themill | !dpkg fix enouf |
| 12:24.35 | dpkg | takes enouf to the vet for a "special" visit. |
| 12:24.46 | geophoenix | lol |
| 12:24.55 | enouf | wtf!? |
| 12:25.22 | geophoenix | ha ha |
| 12:26.05 | Nameeater | christoz: is that the quake-style drop down terminal? |
| 12:26.10 | christoz | YEAS |
| 12:26.14 | christoz | yes |
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| 12:26.45 | Nameeater | what about tilda or yeahconsole? |
| 12:26.46 | christoz | is very handfull but is kde app |
| 12:27.19 | christoz | good i will check them thnks |
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| 12:29.35 | geophoenix | is there a possible release date for debian lenny stable ? |
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| 12:31.35 | yang | After aptitude install linux-image-xxx I am unable to boot the newest kernel, somehow old kernel always comes back up, I checked grub settings and all ? |
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| 12:33.24 | yang | http://pastebin.com/m200b2554 |
| 12:34.15 | yang | always comes back as 2.6.18-4-686 |
| 12:40.54 | bolt-work | geophoenix: soon |
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| 12:41.39 | psycodad | yang: maybe check default and savedefault in grub cfg |
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| 12:43.07 | geophoenix | before or after march ( example) ? |
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| 12:45.03 | yang | psycodad: there is only "default 0" no savedefault entry |
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| 12:52.58 | untam3d | hi I have a question about mysql base in debian |
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| 12:53.35 | untam3d | is there any default mysql user in system? |
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| 12:53.54 | untam3d | in need to connect with mysql, but in localhost |
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| 12:54.08 | untam3d | and I dont know login and pass |
| 12:54.18 | rvsjoen | root |
| 12:54.37 | untam3d | and pass will be root account pass? |
| 12:56.21 | rvsjoen | probably blank password |
| 12:56.34 | untam3d | in apache on windows I had a mysql.conf file where I could set pass&login |
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| 12:57.03 | untam3d | is there any conf lik that? |
| 12:57.20 | rvsjoen | why would apache need a mysql user ? are you sure you it wasnt something else you configured ? |
| 12:57.32 | untam3d | no sorry right |
| 12:57.41 | untam3d | with apache I ahd mysql client |
| 12:57.43 | untam3d | my fault |
| 12:58.16 | rvsjoen | easiest thing is just launch a mysql shell with root user (no password) and create a new user |
| 12:58.47 | untam3d | mhm, I dont thinked about it |
| 12:58.59 | untam3d | will try, thanks |
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| 13:13.28 | arice | hello there, i need help with debian, im trying to start a program from terminal, i type wine utorrent.exe but i get this error: http://paste.debian.net/26532/ |
| 13:13.45 | arice | something to do with 3d accelerator i guess? |
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| 13:18.12 | jelly | arice: wine spews a lot of warnings that might or migt not be relevant. Does your app work? |
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| 13:18.21 | jelly | arice: if it does, ignore that output |
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| 13:19.22 | arice | jelly: the program doesnt start after |
| 13:19.27 | jelly | arice: the #winehq channel is just over there if you have real issues --> |
| 13:19.37 | arice | ok thanx |
| 13:19.41 | geophoenix | try a torrent client for linux |
| 13:20.17 | geophoenix | ktorrent for example |
| 13:20.20 | somiaj | looking for a way to limit the memory ussage of a paticular process, using ulimit doesn't seem to do the trick cause the process lauches its own shell it seems and dones't obey ulimits request. I'd like to avoid setting /etc/security/limits.conf, cause I only want to limit a process, not a whole user. |
| 13:20.22 | freebse | transmission :) rest is crap |
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| 13:20.34 | arice | i allready have 2 linux clients but utorrent used to work very good 3 days before now it just stopped, no idea why |
| 13:20.36 | jelly | utorrent is nice |
| 13:20.43 | somiaj | I could just run this process under a set user I guess, but looking for alternatives first. |
| 13:20.47 | freebse | besides utorrent |
| 13:20.58 | streuner | jelly: crap |
| 13:21.16 | jelly | streuner: hi! |
| 13:21.25 | streuner | hi |
| 13:22.44 | arice | jelly: i think by mistake i disabled the 3daccelerat in some how, will that effect u think? |
| 13:23.23 | geophoenix | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent_client |
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| 13:23.44 | jelly | arice: I have no idea. |
| 13:23.45 | geophoenix | here you can find all torrent clients for linux and other OSes |
| 13:24.22 | arice | geophoenix: thanx but my problem is not the clients now its something else |
| 13:24.29 | arice | not* |
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| 13:24.55 | geophoenix | k |
| 13:25.23 | arice | is there a way to check if 3d accelerate is enabled or disabled? |
| 13:26.13 | geophoenix | what VGA do you have ? |
| 13:26.24 | jelly | arice: glxinfo |grep render |
| 13:26.34 | arice | im not sure. its a dedicated box not in my home |
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| 13:27.17 | arice | jelly: i get this msg.Error: unable to open display (null) |
| 13:27.49 | freebse | normal user, not root |
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| 13:28.22 | jelly | arice: echo $DISPLAY |
| 13:28.24 | arice | ah ok |
| 13:29.43 | arice | 0.0 |
| 13:30.00 | arice | i was allready in user not root |
| 13:30.03 | jelly | arice: how are you connecting to the remote machine? |
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| 13:30.24 | arice | i use putty or vnc |
| 13:30.43 | jelly | arice: which one is it, putty or vnc? |
| 13:30.50 | arice | putty right now |
| 13:31.24 | jelly | arice: a display of :0.0 indicatec local X session, is X running on the remote machine? |
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| 13:32.42 | arice | im not sure what x session is but i have a vncserver :1 running in the server |
| 13:33.08 | doublehp_ | is it normal that "apt-get upgrade" works (just works fine), while "aptitude upgrade" and safe-upgrade just fail ? (dont even propose solution, just state that conflicts cant be solved) ? |
| 13:33.36 | jelly | arice: hum. "xdpyinfo|head -2"? |
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| 13:34.20 | jelly | arice: actually, pastebin the whole output of xdpyinfo. |
| 13:34.42 | arice | unable to open display ":0.0" |
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| 13:35.41 | freebse | arice: log in as normal user, root does not work with this really |
| 13:35.51 | peterm | hi i tried to simulate a debian pc with multiple drives under qemu today so i added a view -drive file=sda.img,if=sd,media=disk to the qemu command line but they don't show up unter /dev in the debian guest system |
| 13:36.04 | peterm | if i do if=ide it works, but only for four drives max |
| 13:36.11 | arice | freebse: im under normal user |
| 13:36.14 | peterm | has somebody a clue what I do wrong? |
| 13:36.22 | arice | not under # |
| 13:36.23 | freebse | arice: ok then sorry |
| 13:36.26 | jelly | arice: your DISPLAY variable seems not to be correctly set, so X apps can't work |
| 13:36.57 | jelly | arice: what does echo $DISPLAY say if you're connected via vnc? |
| 13:37.24 | jelly | arice: (it's likely to be something other than :0.0) |
| 13:37.34 | doublehp_ | peterm: all you stated are "things that work". There is no help to provide on things that work |
| 13:37.39 | arice | i will check |
| 13:37.40 | jelly | arice: and, does xdpyinfo work there? |
| 13:37.51 | jelly | arice: if it does, try your wine app as well |
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| 13:38.21 | peterm | doublehp_, ,,but they don't show up unter /dev in the debian guest system'' <-- that's what doesn't work :-( |
| 13:38.50 | doublehp_ | peterm: if they dont show, you can mknode |
| 13:39.37 | peterm | doublehp_ ah that could it be thanks i'll try |
| 13:39.39 | doublehp_ | peterm: or /j #qemu |
| 13:40.02 | peterm | doublehp_, i'm in there, too but i don't think the problem is qemu specific |
| 13:40.13 | peterm | which package contains mknode? |
| 13:40.18 | doublehp_ | peterm: your problem is not debian specific. If it was a debian software problem, then, see udev, or mknode. In all other cases /j #qemu |
| 13:40.38 | doublehp_ | mknod |
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| 13:40.50 | peterm | ah |
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| 13:41.28 | doublehp_ | where does grub store the defaul saved entry ? |
| 13:41.33 | doublehp_ | it is not the "default" file, so, where is it ? |
| 13:41.54 | arice | jelly: here is what i get: http://paste.debian.net/26534/ |
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| 13:44.46 | lxsameer | hi , i have a problem with my debian process speed . i have debian lenny for some month but lately my debian running slow . how can i solve this problem? |
| 13:45.31 | doublehp_ | lxsameer: i cant see how it can be debian specific |
| 13:45.58 | lxsameer | i have no where to ask it . |
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| 13:46.20 | Lovecraft | So... |
| 13:46.23 | doublehp_ | lxsameer: debian is not Windows: it does not eat disk space, and, CPU speed does not depend on disk free room. YOU installed more stuff, and loaded your RAM |
| 13:46.26 | Lovecraft | How y'all? |
| 13:46.31 | doublehp_ | lxsameer: /j #hardware |
| 13:46.42 | doublehp_ | lxsameer: laptop -> CPU speed tools |
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| 13:47.03 | doublehp_ | lxsameer: old box ? aptitude install memtest & reboot |
| 13:47.15 | miksuh | lxsameer: probably you are just ruinning out of ram |
| 13:47.20 | miksuh | running |
| 13:47.36 | doublehp_ | lxsameer: cat /proc/cpuinfo ... see if it is the one "you bought for" |
| 13:47.40 | miksuh | buy more ram :) |
| 13:47.51 | lxsameer | doublehp : can you tell me more about laptop cpu speed tools |
| 13:48.00 | doublehp_ | no |
| 13:48.28 | bolt-work | please tell me about something that's in a manual |
| 13:48.36 | rvsjoen | huh ? |
| 13:48.49 | doublehp_ | lxsameer: in theory, there is no reason a computer can go slower with time. In practice, i know a big dozen ones |
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| 13:49.20 | jelly | arice: that seems to be working. |
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| 13:50.06 | osu | hi, i have a problem with my lvm encrypted volumes and the last debian testing kernel: 2.6.26-1-686; after give the password the kernel can't mount de root partition. Anyone with any idea of what can be wrong ? |
| 13:50.17 | doublehp_ | lxsameer: i also lived a strange phenomena: depend on life stile, the human brain can change the perception of time, and, think a machine is slower, or faster than "before". This is compleetely virtual. |
| 13:50.18 | jelly | arice: going AFK now for a bit |
| 13:50.35 | doublehp_ | lxsameer: this depends on life mode, stress, and tiredness |
| 13:50.54 | arice | ok thanx for your time |
| 13:51.24 | doublehp_ | lxsameer: is it a laptop ? |
| 13:51.26 | lxsameer | thanks |
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| 13:59.48 | Lovecraft | So to eventually fix my xorg.conf problem with Lenny, I did X -configure and used that as xorg.conf and pasted the 'Display' subsections into from an Etch xorg.conf |
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| 14:00.26 | Tenkawa | Anyone running debian on an aspire one? |
| 14:00.37 | Tenkawa | need to confirm an ethernet driver oddness |
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| 14:03.44 | arice | how do i check what graphic card i have or graphic information? |
| 14:03.53 | Tenkawa | lspci is useful |
| 14:04.10 | Lovecraft | arice: lspci -vv | grp vga |
| 14:04.19 | Lovecraft | grep, that is. |
| 14:04.27 | Lovecraft | DFnag keybpard. |
| 14:04.36 | doublehp_ | how do I bounce emails using CLI ? |
| 14:04.41 | Lovecraft | Okay .. this one dies today. |
| 14:04.51 | arice | it says: VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc ES1000 (rev 02) that shuld be the card right? |
| 14:05.12 | Lovecraft | There ya go. |
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| 14:05.47 | arice | i think i have problems with the graphic drivers, some of my programs doesnt run anymore. how do i upgrade the drivers? |
| 14:05.58 | ChoHag | Does any package own sources.list/apt.conf (and their .d's) as a config file |
| 14:05.59 | ChoHag | ? |
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| 14:06.18 | Lovecraft | What are the symptoms? What doesn't run? |
| 14:07.01 | arice | Lovecraft: i get this msg when i try runing wine for example: http://paste.debian.net/26532/ |
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| 14:07.53 | ChoHag | And more to the point, is there any sort of best practice to creating a package (not for public consumption) which overrides them? |
| 14:08.14 | arice | i asked in #winehq but it seems the problem is not in wine |
| 14:08.24 | Lovecraft | arice: Did it run at one time? |
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| 14:08.47 | Lovecraft | Sound like a game in wine. |
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| 14:09.09 | arice | its utorrent |
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| 14:09.26 | arice | it was runing without problems for some days ago |
| 14:09.29 | zzattack | how do I have a fetchmail daemon start for every user? I'm using fetchmail configuration files per user but I need to manually start fetchmail for each user before it works |
| 14:09.31 | Lovecraft | Yes .. I see. |
| 14:10.00 | Lovecraft | The you upgraded or changed something? |
| 14:10.19 | arice | yes, i think i did somethign with 3dacceleration |
| 14:10.25 | IamSOG | oh |
| 14:10.47 | arice | but stupid me i dont remember how do i change it back |
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| 14:11.20 | Lovecraft | smacks arice's widdle finners. |
| 14:11.24 | Lovecraft | No no no! |
| 14:11.27 | Lovecraft | heh |
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| 14:11.31 | arice | i remember there was a window that i opend from vnc, there you can change to lower the 3daccelerate |
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| 14:12.31 | valdyn | arice: you ran driconf? |
| 14:12.52 | rss | Hi, which browser plugin(xulrunner/webkit/gtkhtml) is better for a machine with less RAM? this is on unstable. |
| 14:12.53 | arice | sorry what is that |
| 14:13.06 | rss | eep... for Liferea, I meant |
| 14:13.49 | valdyn | rss: gtkhtml probably needs the least amount of resources, but it cant render modern webpages either i bet |
| 14:14.35 | valdyn | rss: im sure you use some kind of webbrowser too |
| 14:14.43 | abrotman | or at least not well .. but still can't be as bad as hotjava |
| 14:14.50 | rss | valdyn: to render feeds, it doesn't need to pass Acid2, right? |
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| 14:15.14 | valdyn | rss: and libraries get shared, so might aswell pick the engine that you are already using in your webbrowser |
| 14:15.17 | user2008 | hi, can anyone tell me how to re-compile suexec for apache2? |
| 14:15.24 | user2008 | i need it to chenge use in suexec |
| 14:15.29 | rss | valdyn: I use the abominable firefox nee iceweasel |
| 14:15.38 | valdyn | rss: acid tests feed invalid code to browsers, no browser needs to pass it. |
| 14:16.10 | rss | iceweasel itself hogs most of the memory, so would using xulrunner be beneficial? |
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| 14:16.24 | valdyn | rss: i would think so |
| 14:16.33 | pif | what version of iceweasl hogs memory? |
| 14:16.41 | arice | valdyn: Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0". |
| 14:16.41 | arice | Screen 0: not direct rendering capable. |
| 14:16.46 | Lovecraft | abrotman: I fixed my X config probs .. ain't you happy? |
| 14:17.06 | abrotman | Lovecraft: did you finally do it the right way? :) |
| 14:17.20 | Lovecraft | So to eventually fix my xorg.conf problem with Lenny, I did X -configure and used that as xorg.conf and pasted the 'Display' subsections into from an Etch xorg.conf |
| 14:17.33 | Lovecraft | Nop. I kludged. |
| 14:17.48 | rss | pif: All! firefox too, like windows, has a half-life. |
| 14:18.14 | doublehp_ | is it normal that "apt-get upgrade" works (just works fine), while "aptitude upgrade" and safe-upgrade just fail ? (dont even propose solution, just state that conflicts cant be solved) ? |
| 14:18.24 | abrotman | Lovecraft: why didn't you just specify the right display options in X -configure ? |
| 14:18.25 | rss | Guess that has to do with the various memory hogging web 2.0 wonders |
| 14:18.33 | doublehp_ | where does grub store the defaul saved entry ? it is not the "default" file, so, where is it ? |
| 14:18.43 | Tenkawa | doublehp_: menu.lst |
| 14:18.51 | Tenkawa | at least it should be |
| 14:18.56 | doublehp_ | Tenkawa: which line ? |
| 14:19.04 | Tenkawa | the first set |
| 14:19.09 | Lovecraft | abrotman: X iconfigure take resolution parameters? |
| 14:19.16 | Lovecraft | Let me look. |
| 14:19.17 | valdyn | xulrunner just needs the most resources of all common web engines |
| 14:19.24 | abrotman | i thought so, maybe there's an option .. |
| 14:19.39 | Tenkawa | don't have a menu.lst handy (booting from vz doms so no kernel) |
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| 14:20.02 | Lovecraft | I don't see it. |
| 14:20.16 | valdyn | arice: try "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" |
| 14:20.18 | Lovecraft | In any case, its working. |
| 14:20.31 | jelly | valdyn: arice's vnc server doesn't have DRI |
| 14:20.40 | valdyn | jelly: uh, that bad |
| 14:20.45 | valdyn | arice: nvm, ignore |
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| 14:20.53 | doublehp_ | Tenkawa: what do you call the first set ? grub memorised to boot set 0 1 or 2 ... problem is that I dont find where it memorised this: default file stucks to contain 0 |
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| 14:21.12 | jelly | valdyn: yeah, it's not a hardware assisted X server |
| 14:21.17 | valdyn | jelly: thats confusing |
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| 14:21.27 | valdyn | jelly: how did he make his vnc server 1:0 ? |
| 14:21.33 | valdyn | jelly: how did he make his vnc server :1.0 ? |
| 14:21.35 | doublehp_ | Tenkawa: since when does grub alter menu.lst directly ? any way, i dont find any line that contains "1" ATM. (last boot started set 1 ) |
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| 14:21.41 | jelly | valdyn: that's what a vnc server does! |
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| 14:21.53 | valdyn | jelly: looks to me like its a local X screen served via vnc |
| 14:22.10 | valdyn | jelly: no, vncserver starts at :99.0 or something iirc |
| 14:22.21 | jelly | valdyn: eh, what's the difference |
| 14:22.56 | glax | Hi guys, I have 2 problems on lenny. I change the logging window. It works like for 5 times and then it changes back to the default on. 2) Sometimes X stops suddenly and cannot start again, need to reboot the computer for it to appear. May someone help me with that? |
| 14:23.06 | valdyn | jelly: vncserver cant have DRI, while exporting a local x display via vnc does not make it lose DRI |
| 14:24.06 | valdyn | !x0rfb |
| 14:24.09 | valdyn | !xorfb |
| 14:24.12 | valdyn | oo |
| 14:24.24 | jelly | valdyn: his xdpyinfo http://paste.debian.net/26534/ |
| 14:24.25 | doublehp_ | !xorgfb |
| 14:24.41 | doublehp_ | valdyn: XdirectFB ? |
| 14:24.52 | valdyn | doublehp_: no, something like the vino program |
| 14:25.37 | valdyn | doublehp_: krfb being kdes version, vino gnomes |
| 14:25.53 | jelly | valdyn, arice: I think 'gl is a red herring and some wine debugging is in order |
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| 14:26.40 | valdyn | jelly: guess i was wrong about vncservers naming then |
| 14:26.52 | valdyn | jelly: at least realvncservers |
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| 14:27.33 | valdyn | arice: you cant have accelerated 3D in that display |
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| 14:28.04 | doublehp_ | does grub support "savedefault <n>" ? |
| 14:28.07 | valdyn | arice: you also cannot easily have software and accelerated opengl installed at a time |
| 14:28.39 | arice | ok |
| 14:29.11 | arice | but i dont understand now whats wrong whith my display, should i reinstall the drivers for my card? |
| 14:29.24 | valdyn | arice: why do you think anything is wrong with your vnc display? |
| 14:29.24 | ronr | I'm trying to create a flv with mencoder, unfortunately. it won't play in a flash player (adding ffmpeg -i test.flv foo.flv gives a playable flv, but no acceptable quality). I use this to create the flv http://pastebin.com/m12a46e74 |
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| 14:30.04 | arice | valdyn: im not sure where the problem is anymore |
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| 14:33.30 | valdyn | arice: if you want a vnc display with any rendering acceleration on the server then you need to export a "real" X server, not use vncserver |
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| 14:36.50 | JyZyXEL | 200: 707/12214272 files (10.9% non-contiguous), 16565094/48839600 blocks |
| 14:37.01 | JyZyXEL | 200: ***** FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED ***** |
| 14:37.06 | JyZyXEL | lol |
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| 14:39.38 | JyZyXEL | i guess its fukken brorken |
| 14:40.30 | sputnick_ | hi. I had done some big cleaning my runlevels and modules on my debian sid. Now I can't bind any services on a TCP port. any idea ? |
| 14:40.55 | sputnick_ | (firewall off) |
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| 14:41.40 | sputnick_ | netstat show me ports binding but they didn't respond |
| 14:41.47 | Lovecraft | Well, restore form backup? Surely you made copies before editing. |
| 14:42.25 | sputnick_ | (many peoples said that whey they don't have any idea ;) ) |
| 14:42.54 | sputnick_ | s/whey/because |
| 14:42.56 | Lovecraft | Yeah .. how would anyone know what you changed? |
| 14:43.05 | abrotman | sputnick_: cleaning up modules how? |
| 14:43.05 | sputnick_ | experience |
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| 14:43.57 | sputnick_ | abrotman: with a for loop. :) if nopt used, blacklisted. I had re-read blacklist to don't blacklist known stuff needed |
| 14:44.05 | sputnick_ | *not used |
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| 14:44.21 | abrotman | sputnick_: so for starters, unblacklist everything |
| 14:44.38 | abrotman | (backup your blacklist file first) |
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| 14:45.05 | jelly | arice: it's a wine issue, so #winehq will know more. Have you upgraded that system recently, esp. wine or the application itself? |
| 14:45.27 | [Elvis] | hello people, I'm having a weird problem...I installed asterisk with destar ...then apt-get removed it because of some configureation I messed up...dpkg-purged it.. |
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| 14:45.33 | [Elvis] | and now it won't reinstall |
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| 14:45.53 | abrotman | errors are helpful |
| 14:46.10 | [Elvis] | Setting up destar (0.2.0-4) ... |
| 14:46.10 | [Elvis] | chown: `asterisk:asterisk': invalid user |
| 14:46.29 | [Elvis] | I don't understand how I was able to install it before without this error |
| 14:46.33 | [Elvis] | and now suddenly get this error |
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| 14:46.53 | jelly | [Elvis]: is destar part of debian? Which debian release are you using? |
| 14:46.53 | abrotman | so you're missing the asterisk user |
| 14:47.09 | themill | judd versions destar |
| 14:47.10 | judd | themill: destar -- etch: 0.2.0-4 lenny: 0.2.2-5.2 sid: 0.2.2-5.2 experimental: 0.3~svn813-1 |
| 14:47.17 | [Jasper] | yes jelly it is |
| 14:47.21 | sputnick_ | "while read a b; do modprobe $b; done < /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist" and still can't bind anything |
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| 14:47.37 | [Jasper] | ok maybe, but I can install asterisk perfectly |
| 14:47.38 | abrotman | sputnick_: backup the blacklist file, delete the contents, reboot the system |
| 14:47.44 | [Jasper] | and that never makes a user called asterisk? |
| 14:47.51 | jelly | [Jasper]: that's a bug in that package, then. |
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| 14:48.07 | sputnick_ | ok, see ya |
| 14:48.13 | sputnick_ | thanks. |
| 14:48.20 | [Jasper] | jelly, how come I was able to install it before then/ |
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| 14:48.42 | jelly | [Jasper]: I have no apriori knowledge of your system! |
| 14:49.11 | [Jasper] | well then it aint a bug I guess |
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| 14:49.26 | jelly | [Jasper]: yes it is, it just doesn't happen always |
| 14:49.30 | Tenkawa | back... busy morning |
| 14:49.39 | Tenkawa | so noone running on an aspire one eh? |
| 14:49.47 | jelly | Tenkawa: with debian on it? |
| 14:49.48 | abrotman | Tenkawa: what about it? |
| 14:49.49 | themill | try reinstalling the asterisk package, aiui, that should create the asterisk user |
| 14:50.22 | abrotman | jelly: i'd hope so, the distro it comes with is screwed up 20 different ways |
| 14:50.30 | jelly | abrotman: wfm |
| 14:50.33 | Tenkawa | jelly: yeah... trying to see if theres a fix to the ethernet driver logging millions of receive dropped packets for no reason... (cable in or out) |
| 14:50.57 | Tenkawa | in about 5-10 secs ifconfig shows ann astronomical # |
| 14:51.07 | jelly | abrotman: it never finishes its updates, maybe that's why it still works |
| 14:51.40 | jelly | abrotman: also I've added FC8 repos back and installed some useful crap |
| 14:52.09 | abrotman | jelly: a friend got one, the first round of updates hosed his networking very badly |
| 14:52.41 | jelly | hm, I think you've told me that before. |
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| 14:53.04 | jelly | oh well. I plan to put a decent OS on it... one day. |
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| 14:53.45 | jelly | is there a skype chat <-> irc proxy? |
| 14:53.59 | jelly | prefers xchat to skype |
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| 14:55.25 | Tenkawa | hmm.. wonder if a dell mini 9 would be worth it |
| 14:55.52 | abrotman | asg seems to like his .. it hink that's what he has |
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| 14:58.19 | alaqsory | asalamu alikum |
| 14:58.48 | alaqsory | I have debian onmy computer beside Ubuntu and Microsot xp |
| 14:59.39 | alaqsory | on ubuntu and xp the ethernet is good, but on debian it is not |
| 14:59.40 | jelly | sot you say. |
| 14:59.55 | abrotman | alaqsory: what network card is it? which kernel? which veresion of debian? |
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| 15:00.13 | alaqsory | my card is builtin |
| 15:00.23 | keith4 | sighs |
| 15:00.24 | alaqsory | and i am using debian etch |
| 15:00.31 | alaqsory | intel |
| 15:00.54 | abrotman | and which network card is it? |
| 15:00.54 | jelly | Tenkawa: those kinds of issues are usually solved with fresher drivers (ie. kernel) |
| 15:00.54 | abrotman | 'lspci -nn' might help you |
| 15:01.07 | jelly | Tenkawa: what's your current uname -r? |
| 15:01.30 | abrotman | msbob |
| 15:01.56 | alaqsory | wait plz to pick the model of my ethernet |
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| 15:02.45 | jelly | abrotman: CYGWIN_NT-5.2 backup 1.5.24(0.156/4/2) 2007-01-31 10:57 i686 Cygwin |
| 15:02.51 | abrotman | boo |
| 15:03.07 | jelly | abrotman: that's -a, -r wouldn't have been recognizable |
| 15:03.36 | doublehp_ | does grub support "savedefault <n>" ? |
| 15:03.56 | doublehp_ | where does grub store the defaul saved entry ? it is not the "default" file, so, where is it ? |
| 15:04.02 | doublehp_ | is it normal that "apt-get upgrade" works (just works fine), while "aptitude upgrade" and safe-upgrade just fail ? (dont even propose solution, just state that conflicts cant be solved) ? |
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| 15:04.24 | alaqsory | Realtek RTL8168/8111 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIc |
| 15:04.25 | evilgenius | Hi |
| 15:04.35 | evilgenius | I need some help with email system on debian |
| 15:04.41 | doublehp_ | !ask |
| 15:04.42 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 15:05.03 | jelly | doublehp_: what do you mean, not the "default"? |
| 15:05.08 | abrotman | alaqsory: what is the PCI ID at the end like the [4214:24ac] bit |
| 15:05.22 | alaqsory | : Realtek RTL8168/8111 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIc the kernel which is with etch |
| 15:05.37 | evilgenius | i have 13700+ people to send email to using vBulletin and i ended up with a massive Qmail queue which was stuck |
| 15:05.41 | abrotman | alaqsory: what is the PCI ID at the end like the [4214:24ac] bit |
| 15:05.51 | evilgenius | so what should i do? |
| 15:05.56 | alaqsory | i dont knew |
| 15:06.02 | jelly | evilgenius: is qmail from debian? |
| 15:06.05 | doublehp_ | jelly: grub usually record the last "saved" entry in ... as I said << "default" file >> |
| 15:06.16 | doublehp_ | jelly: usuallu /boot/grub/default |
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| 15:06.27 | alaqsory | there is Gigabit Ethernet NIC |
| 15:06.39 | evilgenius | jelly, not sure what you mean |
| 15:06.41 | [empire] | How many CD's would I need to download (iso) for a barebone debian install? |
| 15:06.53 | [empire] | 21 cd's is nuts |
| 15:06.53 | [empire] | :p |
| 15:07.07 | abrotman | [empire]: the netinst .. 160MB iso |
| 15:07.17 | [empire] | oh true dat |
| 15:07.21 | jelly | evilgenius: how did you install it? if it's not from a debian package, it's better to ask #qmail |
| 15:07.22 | abrotman | true indeed |
| 15:07.26 | [empire] | good idea |
| 15:07.31 | [empire] | Didn't think about that thanks abrotman |
| 15:07.46 | evilgenius | it was in the install i didn't install it separately |
| 15:07.59 | jelly | doublehp_: hm. Never used the feature, but I have such a file present. |
| 15:08.02 | doublehp_ | [empire]: net inst minimal : 54M. Full install: 4G. Full install is not anymore available as CD, it's 2 or 3 DVDs |
| 15:08.08 | alaqsory | abrotman what will i do now |
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| 15:08.45 | doublehp_ | jelly: my problem is that, default always contains "0" ... and still last time i booted, it booted #1 ... |
| 15:08.56 | doublehp_ | jelly: so, it must be stored "some where lese". |
| 15:09.03 | jelly | alaqsory: run a lspci -n and show the line corresponding to that Realtek one |
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| 15:09.25 | doublehp_ | jelly: i also have problem with the "savedefault <n>" feature, but, as long as I dont even find where it stores default ... one problem at a time |
| 15:09.26 | alaqsory | i am now on xp |
| 15:09.33 | jelly | doublehp_: what's the default parameter in menu.list point to? |
| 15:09.47 | doublehp_ | jelly: 3 ... just to make sure :) |
| 15:09.48 | evilgenius | Jelly, is it ok if i setup some smtp and have the vBulletin use that to send mails |
| 15:09.54 | alaqsory | jelly: i am now on xp |
| 15:09.56 | doublehp_ | jelly: and fallback on 4 |
| 15:09.57 | jelly | doublehp_: that's scary. |
| 15:10.10 | alaqsory | is there any way to knew |
| 15:10.11 | doublehp_ | jelly: i would not start IRC for sth trivial |
| 15:10.23 | jelly | doublehp_: you have written "0" somewhere on the disk! :-) |
| 15:10.27 | jelly | well, 1. |
| 15:10.29 | doublehp_ | jelly: not after 11y computing including 8y debianing |
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| 15:10.44 | doublehp_ | jelly: then, how can it boot #1 ? |
| 15:11.13 | abrotman | alaqsory: what is the PCI ID at the end like the [4214:24ac] bit |
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| 15:11.51 | doublehp_ | abrotman: you are asking for the VID/PID pair ... |
| 15:11.57 | jelly | doublehp_: it's a kind of magic |
| 15:12.07 | alaqsory | abrotman: there is no sthing |
| 15:12.18 | abrotman | alaqsory: lspci -nn |
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| 15:12.29 | abrotman | doublehp_: you explain it to him, i know what it's called |
| 15:12.53 | doublehp_ | abrotman: ask lspci -n |wgetpaste ... |
| 15:13.02 | doublehp_ | jelly: I am *REALLY* tired of magick ! |
| 15:13.18 | alaqsory | abrotman: i am on xp now |
| 15:13.21 | abrotman | doublehp_: you're telling the wrong person .. i'm not going to translate your gibberish into his |
| 15:13.36 | abrotman | alaqsory: do you have any network at all in debian ? |
| 15:13.58 | alaqsory | debian cant recognize the driver |
| 15:14.39 | alaqsory | no driver installed for this |
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| 15:15.00 | doublehp_ | alaqsory: so "it does not recognise" a non installed driver ? |
| 15:15.15 | abrotman | alaqsory: i think you either need etchnhalf kernel or lenny |
| 15:15.44 | alaqsory | i have leeny cd1 |
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| 15:15.54 | alaqsory | lenny cd1 |
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| 15:16.25 | alaqsory | and in lenny the network is installed |
| 15:16.31 | abrotman | so use that? |
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| 15:17.07 | alaqsory | when i install lenny, i cannot use sudo |
| 15:17.14 | abrotman | install it, configure it |
| 15:17.19 | alaqsory | i became a desktop user |
| 15:17.29 | alaqsory | not adminstrator |
| 15:17.44 | jelly | alaqsory: you can use su to get to a root shell |
| 15:18.05 | abrotman | would like to undo all the damage ubuntu has done |
| 15:18.09 | themill | *sob* |
| 15:18.46 | alaqsory | in adminstraion in gnome >> there is no adminstration tools |
| 15:18.49 | themill | alaqsory: sudo works just as well in lenny as it does in etch. |
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| 15:19.10 | alaqsory | in tech too i cant use sudo |
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| 15:19.26 | jelly | alaqsory: can... you... use... "su"? |
| 15:19.27 | alaqsory | but i can use root terminal in tech onlt |
| 15:19.32 | alaqsory | lenny no |
| 15:19.56 | jelly | alaqsory: why? |
| 15:19.58 | alaqsory | it is appeare you are not in sudors |
| 15:20.06 | alaqsory | i dont knew |
| 15:20.09 | jelly | alaqsory: "su", not "sudo" |
| 15:20.34 | alaqsory | i will install it then i will try su |
| 15:21.10 | abrotman | alaqsory: what is your native language? |
| 15:21.12 | jelly | praise be to $DEITY |
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| 15:21.15 | alaqsory | arabic |
| 15:21.24 | themill | Doesn't the lenny installer automatically install sudo and add the first user to sudoers if no password is specified for root at install time? |
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| 15:21.45 | themill | has never used the lenny installer |
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| 15:21.53 | jelly | themill: that would be actually useful! (I bet it doesn't) |
| 15:22.17 | rww | themill: If it does, it doesn't say that in the installer (or I don't read the instructions properly). |
| 15:22.24 | kreuter | hi, #debian. does anybody know if it's possible to change the Terminate_Server keybinding in the X.org in etch? |
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| 15:22.43 | abrotman | you mean the ctrl-alt-bksp ? |
| 15:22.49 | alaqsory | jelly: Arabic |
| 15:22.50 | naitram | using machine as server (voip server), why do I need home partition? |
| 15:22.56 | kreuter | abrotman: yes. |
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| 15:23.07 | jelly | alaqsory: abrotman asked that |
| 15:23.19 | alaqsory | sorry |
| 15:23.25 | alaqsory | :-D |
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| 15:23.58 | Heavy-D | hey guys, is there an implicit deny at the end of each iptables chain or do I need to add a deny at the end? |
| 15:24.01 | kreuter | hm. I asked the wrong question. AFAICT, it's supposed to be possible to change the keybinding using some xkb magic. the question I ought to have asked was: does anybody know the right magic? |
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| 15:24.30 | alaqsory | i am not good in English, I know. |
| 15:25.03 | abrotman | i thought there was an arabic channel of some sort, but it seems dead |
| 15:25.19 | alaqsory | what its name |
| 15:25.31 | abrotman | it's empty, doesn't matter |
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| 15:26.42 | alaqsory | i will go now :-Dand see you later |
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| 15:27.36 | fasta | What's the name of a program to render a piece of text in ASCII? |
| 15:28.05 | themill | banner? |
| 15:28.06 | mmlj4 | echo |
| 15:28.13 | tarzeau | cowsay? |
| 15:28.14 | petemc | figlet ? |
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| 15:28.28 | tarzeau | gozer? |
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| 15:28.52 | fasta | themill: yes, banner. |
| 15:29.00 | themill | !win me |
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| 15:29.00 | dpkg | Congratulations, themill! You have won the time-life collection of vintage AOL CDs, a set of 120! |
| 15:29.11 | fasta | !win themill |
| 15:29.11 | dpkg | Congratulations, themill! You have won a one way ticket to Gaza! |
| 15:29.30 | themill | oh!? the bot's getting topical. |
| 15:29.45 | jelly | dpkg: factinfo cmd: win (.*?) |
| 15:29.46 | dpkg | CMD: win (.*?) -- created by sussudio <Suss@d51132d0.cable.wanadoo.nl> at Sun Feb 16 16:11:47 2003 (2165 days); it has been requested 817 times, last by fasta, 35s ago. |
| 15:29.56 | abrotman | that's very old |
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| 15:30.05 | jelly | some things never change |
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| 15:30.15 | themill | yes. well. |
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| 15:32.30 | naitram | could someone look at this and give me opinions on which approach they would suggest for automated install http://users.telenet.be/mydotcom/howto/linux/automatic.htm |
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| 15:34.33 | adam___ | http://wklej.org/id/42527/ -- so can I use this adresses from 2001:470:1f07:cff::/64? how can I add this? |
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| 15:36.16 | dazjorz | adam___: you can add an IPv6 address using 'ip -6 addr add [address] dev [interface] |
| 15:36.19 | dazjorz | ' |
| 15:36.30 | adam___ | hmm |
| 15:36.47 | adam___ | ip -6 addr add 2001:470:1f07:cff::/64 dev he-ipv6 |
| 15:36.47 | adam___ | ? |
| 15:36.49 | joltcan | adam___: https://www.sixxs.net/faq/connectivity/?faq=ossetup&os=linuxdebian |
| 15:37.01 | adam___ | but i dont have sixxs |
| 15:37.14 | joltcan | adam___: No, but it's a nice example |
| 15:37.21 | joltcan | and with useful links |
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| 15:39.41 | adam___ | can i have 2+ tunels ipv6? |
| 15:40.19 | adam___ | how how add route |
| 15:40.21 | adam___ | because i got |
| 15:40.32 | adam___ | Routed /64: 2001:470:1f07:cff::/64 |
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| 15:40.37 | adam___ | so i must add it first before adress |
| 15:40.39 | adam___ | true? |
| 15:40.42 | abrotman | stop hitting enter |
| 15:40.47 | adam___ | ok |
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| 15:43.29 | morlenxus | Hey |
| 15:43.45 | Graveworm | Hi everyone. I'm confused. My linux machine is telling me that there is "no space left on device" (even for opening man files) but if I do a "df" it shows me that even on / there 786megs free. No filesystem seems to be full. |
| 15:43.54 | morlenxus | Is it possible to disable the automatic daemon restart when installing updates with `aptitude dist-upgrade`? |
| 15:44.34 | alcohol | morlenxus: why would you? |
| 15:44.34 | keith4 | "automaic daemon restart"? |
| 15:44.34 | alcohol | morlenxus: just stop them beforehand otherwise? |
| 15:44.34 | stew | morlenxus: yes, by using policy-rc.d |
| 15:44.38 | abrotman | Graveworm: as you or root ? |
| 15:44.57 | stew | morlenxus: which is why pbuilder / cowbuilder use to prevent daemons from starting in the build chroots |
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| 15:45.19 | alcohol | stew: s/why/what/ ? |
| 15:45.26 | keith4 | Graveworm: probably whatever space is left is reserved for root (as abrotman is thinking) |
| 15:45.28 | Graveworm | abrotman: As root. Erm, because of the extra space for root? |
| 15:45.33 | stew | alcohol: yes, thanks |
| 15:45.51 | abrotman | Graveworm: paste the error, and the df output |
| 15:46.06 | stew | morlenxus: see /usr/share/doc/sysv-rc/README.policy-rc.d.gz |
| 15:46.12 | Graveworm | But if I try to create a file as root in roots home I even can't becaus of no space left. |
| 15:46.16 | morlenxus | stew: thanks :) |
| 15:46.32 | adam___ | http://wklej.org/id/42527/ -- so can I use this adresses from 2001:470:1f07:cff::/64? how can I add this route/64 and addresses? |
| 15:46.52 | Graveworm | abrotman: Sorry, I can't paste it becaus it's on another machine. |
| 15:47.12 | Graveworm | Ok... it will last some minutes... |
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| 15:51.28 | Graveworm | abrotman, keith4 : Ok, here is the output of "df" > http://paste.debian.net/26546/ |
| 15:51.57 | Graveworm | abrotman, keith4 : ...and here I tried to open a man file > http://paste.debian.net/26547/ |
| 15:52.14 | abrotman | Graveworm: tmpfs 443M 0 443M 0% /lib/init/rw |
| 15:52.45 | Graveworm | abrotman: Yes. I tells me, that 443megs are available? |
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| 15:53.07 | abrotman | sorry .. wrong one tmpfs 10M 68K 10M 1% /dev/shm |
| 15:53.19 | jelly | Graveworm: what about "df -i / /tmp" ? |
| 15:53.42 | jelly | abrotman: neither of those are /tmp, though |
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| 15:53.56 | rjent | Greetings, I upgrade my sid last night and now my fonts look bad and I seem to have lost my screen resolution options. |
| 15:54.02 | rjent | Any ideas? |
| 15:54.07 | abrotman | don't use sid |
| 15:54.11 | keith4 | beat me to it |
| 15:54.17 | rjent | abrotman: lol |
| 15:54.19 | abrotman | jelly: but it still might not be enough room .. but whatever |
| 15:54.22 | abrotman | rjent: i'm not joking |
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| 15:54.35 | Graveworm | jelly: Ahh.. Ok. There it is. it says /dev/sda1 IUse% 100 |
| 15:54.40 | jelly | abrotman: for initrd or sysv shmem, yes |
| 15:54.42 | keith4 | if you can't figure out how to fix your screen resolution, you shouldn't be using sid |
| 15:54.44 | rjent | abrotman: I have used for about two years |
| 15:54.45 | keith4 | imho |
| 15:54.51 | rjent | and all for the most part well |
| 15:54.56 | jelly | Graveworm: you have zillions of files on / ! |
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| 15:55.03 | abrotman | rjent: i don't see your point .. if you don't want your stuff to break, don't use sid |
| 15:55.12 | keith4 | Graveworm: wow. that's impressive |
| 15:55.13 | rjent | abrotman: agreed |
| 15:55.22 | Graveworm | 854784 ;) |
| 15:55.37 | rjent | abrotman: I will work it out to keep my skills sharp |
| 15:55.37 | themill | Graveworm: you seem to have a lot of very small files |
| 15:55.41 | jelly | a small zillion. |
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| 15:56.50 | keith4 | Graveworm: what filesystem is sda1? |
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| 15:57.03 | jelly | Graveworm: the number of inodes cannot be changed on ext3 without a reformat, so you'll have to actually find where's the excess of files stored and remove them |
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| 15:57.20 | Graveworm | Hmm... :\... I think it isn't possible to increase the number of inodes without reformating the fs? |
| 15:57.32 | Graveworm | Hmmm ok... |
| 15:57.43 | Graveworm | keith4: sda1 is ext3 |
| 15:57.48 | keith4 | you could move /tmp to an LVM |
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| 15:58.05 | keith4 | or /usr |
| 15:58.22 | keith4 | ... or anything, for that matter |
| 15:58.33 | jelly | except /boot and /lib |
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| 15:59.08 | jelly | 'k maybe /boot and /etc, sorry |
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| 15:59.19 | Graveworm | How can I find out how much inodes a used in a specific directory? |
| 15:59.24 | keith4 | Graveworm: how do you have that many inodes used, anyway? |
| 15:59.39 | themill | jelly: you can stick everything except /boot on lvm without any hassles |
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| 16:00.14 | Graveworm | keith4: Don't know right now :(. The machine is used as a fileserver and I just recognized that there is no space on that machine. |
| 16:00.40 | keith4 | right... but are you serving files from somewhere on sda1? |
| 16:00.51 | jelly | Graveworm: I guess the simplest thing to do might be to do a "find / -xdev > /home/find.txt", then parse the output |
| 16:01.02 | Graveworm | No... sda1 is just for the system |
| 16:01.23 | keith4 | i mean, my fileserver has 872153 inodes used. but that's on a 1.5T partition |
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| 16:02.17 | keith4 | Graveworm: does /tmp have 500,000 single-byte files or something crazy? |
| 16:02.35 | jelly | Graveworm: there was probably a runaway process creating files somewhere |
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| 16:03.17 | jelly | Graveworm: are you running a mail service on it? |
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| 16:03.32 | Graveworm | keith4: /tmp is empty except some directories but nothing is in there |
| 16:04.52 | Graveworm | jelly: No, at the moment it's just samba running on it and a service for deploying software |
| 16:05.07 | softlite | samba rulz :D |
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| 16:05.40 | jelly | Graveworm: so look at that find output and see where's the suspicious lot |
| 16:06.23 | amitz | is it possible to have a setting possible by xrandr that can't be done using xorg.conf of 7.3, specifically from debian lenny? I want to do monitor spanning (dual head) as the prerequisite for dual seat using Xephyr |
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| 16:07.42 | Graveworm | jelly: Find is running at the moment... |
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| 16:08.04 | FilipeMaia | Is there a way to get the number of files each in directory? |
| 16:08.15 | FilipeMaia | Without finding out the number of files in the subdirectories? |
| 16:08.33 | nsadmin | ls | wc -l? |
| 16:08.48 | jelly | FilipeMaia: excluding anything that isn't a normal file? |
| 16:09.09 | FilipeMaia | yes |
| 16:09.25 | jelly | FilipeMaia: look into find's -maxdepth, -mindepth and -type options |
| 16:09.33 | jelly | !using find |
| 16:09.33 | dpkg | i heard using find is http://wooledge.org:8000/UsingFind |
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| 16:09.57 | FilipeMaia | jelly, how to print the total? |
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| 16:10.11 | nsadmin | man wc |
| 16:10.28 | jelly | FilipeMaia: pipe to wc -l to count the lines |
| 16:10.39 | FilipeMaia | and if i want to do this on a couple of directories and print the total for each directory? |
| 16:10.53 | nsadmin | run it several times? |
| 16:10.54 | jelly | you'll figure that one yourself. |
| 16:11.09 | FilipeMaia | i see |
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| 16:12.53 | jelly | !bash guide |
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| 16:12.57 | jelly | hm. |
| 16:12.59 | jelly | !bash intro |
| 16:13.05 | jelly | dpkg: you suck |
| 16:13.05 | dpkg | I resemble that remark! |
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| 16:13.28 | nsadmin | !fundamentals |
| 16:13.29 | dpkg | You have recieved this message because you have shown yourself to be ignorant of some of the fundamentals of *nix and/or Debian. You'll get more out of Debian and *nix if you learn some of the fundamentals. Read the "Unix and Internet Fundamentals" HOWTO at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Unix-and-Internet-Fundamentals-HOWTO/index.html. Then, read the Debian Reference at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.en.html#content |
| 16:13.39 | nsadmin | ugh. no he hasn't |
| 16:13.46 | jelly | overly broad, I just wanted to point FilipeMaia to for loops |
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| 16:14.50 | nsadmin | any chance we could get rid of the judgement in order to make the factoid useful without propigating the author's abusive statement |
| 16:15.04 | jelly | FilipeMaia: for s in /path/1 /path/two "/path/with spaces/th ree"; do echo "$s"; done |
| 16:15.15 | jelly | nsadmin: fix it! |
| 16:15.28 | nsadmin | let's try... |
| 16:15.49 | jelly | nsadmin: /msg dpkg fundamentals =~ s/You have recieved this message because you have shown yourself to be ignorant of some of the fundamentals of *nix and/or Debian. // |
| 16:16.18 | d-b | hi jelly can you do diffs on the dpkg factoids ? |
| 16:16.26 | d-b | cuz that would totally rock |
| 16:16.27 | jelly | d-b: diffs? |
| 16:16.31 | nsadmin | dpkg, no fundamentals is You'll get more out of Debian and *nix if you learn some of the fundamentals. Read the "Unix and Internet Fundamentals" HOWTO at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Unix-and-Internet-Fundamentals-HOWTO/index.html. Then, read the Debian Reference at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.en.html#content |
| 16:16.31 | dpkg | nsadmin: okay |
| 16:17.14 | jelly | d-b: anyone can change/improve/vandalize the factoids; only some are locked |
| 16:17.27 | d-b | i just note that http://dpkg.vireo.org/factoid.php?key=factoid for example has the last time modified -> so diffs could be fun ^^ |
| 16:17.28 | themill | find . -type f | awk '{dir=gensub(/(.+\/).+/,"\\1","g",$0); dir_list[dir]++} END {for (d in dir_list) printf "%s %s\n",d,dir_list[d]}' |
| 16:17.53 | jelly | d-b: oh; I don't know whether there's a history kept |
| 16:17.56 | FilipeMaia | Thanks for the help, I'll try my luck with find -exec |
| 16:17.58 | d-b | alternatively i could just wget the site using * at intervals ^^ |
| 16:18.20 | d-b | or not ... * doesn't work :( |
| 16:18.20 | FilipeMaia | themill, was that for me? |
| 16:18.39 | themill | FilipeMaia: more for Graveworm actually, but might help you too |
| 16:18.41 | jelly | d-b: there are dumps of the db somewhere; you could cook something with those |
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| 16:18.59 | themill | !search dpkg |
| 16:19.00 | dpkg | Pick my brains at http://dpkg.vireo.org/search.php or ask me about <help listkeys> or <search>. Also, my factoids are available at http://rzlab.ucr.edu/~dpkg/ in archives that are updated nightly and the previous 18 days are archived. |
| 16:19.19 | FilipeMaia | Is it possible to use pipes inside of find -exec? |
| 16:19.39 | themill | Diffs aren't that easy to do because the db dump is all on one enormous line so you have to split up the line into individual factoids first... |
| 16:20.13 | d-b | themill: i would. |
| 16:20.27 | d-b | why is it one line ... ? |
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| 16:20.49 | themill | d-b: while you're at it then, can you write a syncing utility to keep multiple bots synchronised based on these diffs? |
| 16:21.06 | themill | d-b: it's just a db dump -- that's the format that $DB uses for the dump. |
| 16:21.25 | nsadmin | so it's not on a rdbms with a db dump command available? |
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| 16:23.08 | Graveworm | Hmm.. Ok. The output of "find" is 33megs large. I've found the directory causing the trouble. I'm just to dumb. I mounted the backup directory for / on /.... *shame* |
| 16:23.09 | themill | nsadmin: it's a mysql dump, but the mysqldump command spits out the contents of each table on one line |
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| 16:23.47 | nsadmin | so it's one table? |
| 16:23.49 | d-b | themill: so can't i just import it back into mysql ? |
| 16:23.50 | norbert_ | hi all, I'm using Debian (Lenny) and I'm wondering whether there's a package available for Dutch (nl) hyphenation? openoffice.org-hyphenation-nl doesn't appear to be available? |
| 16:23.53 | stpd_viktor | Anyonw know if it is possible to get Flash10 64-bit to work in Lenny? |
| 16:24.08 | nsadmin | d-b: I dunno... have you tried? :) |
| 16:24.09 | themill | d-b: should be able to |
| 16:24.27 | d-b | well no point dumping if it can't go back ^^ |
| 16:24.38 | nsadmin | stpd_viktor: I dunno... have you tried? :) |
| 16:25.06 | Graveworm | Ok... Everything works so far. Thanks for your help :). |
| 16:25.06 | stpd_viktor | nsadmin: Yes, tried but it kills iceweasel so nicely |
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| 16:25.57 | nsadmin | are you runnign the amd64 arch? |
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| 16:26.11 | stpd_viktor | nsadmin: They have a bug about it on Adobes site but that is...well google quality :) |
| 16:26.35 | stpd_viktor | nsadmin: yes, trying to avoid using nspluginwrapper |
| 16:26.36 | nsadmin | which is excellent if your search skills are |
| 16:26.46 | rjent | abrotman: I got my issue fixed :) |
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| 16:27.41 | stpd_viktor | nsadmin: yes, google is excellent once I am able to find what I am looking for but when I get some blog from yesteryear.. |
| 16:27.41 | nsadmin | I fixed my issue... it took a tissue... it was really bliss, you |
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| 16:27.42 | nsadmin | see? |
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| 16:28.44 | d-b | meh i could still do diffs on the db dumbs |
| 16:29.13 | nsadmin | you're not guaranteed the rows will come out in the same order |
| 16:29.28 | stew | stpd_viktor: the flashpluign-nonfree in sid should be 64 bit and not using nspluginwrapper |
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| 16:29.59 | d-b | nsadmin: right. but i'm going to ignore the rows. |
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| 16:30.11 | stew | judd: depends flashplugin-nonfree --release sid --arch amd64 |
| 16:30.12 | judd | stew: flashplugin-nonfree -- Depends: debconf | debconf-2.0, wget, gnupg, libatk1.0-0, libc6, libcairo2, libfontconfig1, libfreetype6, libgcc1, libglib2.0-0, libgtk2.0-0, libnspr4-0d, libnss3-1d, libpango1.0-0, libstdc++6, libx11-6, libxext6, libxt6 |
| 16:30.15 | d-b | i only care about the factiods |
| 16:30.35 | nsadmin | ignore the rows? the factoids are in the rows |
| 16:30.41 | themill | d-b: err... the factoids are the rows |
| 16:30.48 | stpd_viktor | stew: hm, looks like will be mixing it up then :) thanks, Ill have a go at that |
| 16:31.08 | d-b | wait ... its factiod name -> factiod info right ? |
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| 16:31.54 | d-b | so long as the term matches the fact i see no reason why its not possible |
| 16:32.06 | themill | d-b: despite your nick, have you ever pulled a db apart like this before? |
| 16:32.13 | d-b | themill: nope ^^ |
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| 16:32.27 | d-b | hence my q and want to experiment |
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| 16:32.47 | PhonicUK | hey all, im having problems with installing Debian using floppies (USB fdd) |
| 16:33.01 | silvestre | esmtp or msmtp -- they seem to do pretty much the same. Can anybody recommend one over the other? |
| 16:33.06 | PhonicUK | it unpacks the kernel and initrd, and gets as far as trying to load a floppy module |
| 16:33.22 | themill | d-b: You might like to first of all reimport the entire db into mysql and then use a visual tool like phpmyadmin to inspect the tables to see what's in them. Then have a look at the dump again once you've done that. |
| 16:33.37 | nsadmin | perhaps doing some experiments on the dumps and/or database imported to your own mysql |
| 16:33.37 | PhonicUK | where i get the message "Floppy Drive(s): fd0 is unknown type 14 (usb?), fd1 is unknown type 15 (usb?) |
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| 16:33.46 | d-b | themill: will do ^^ |
| 16:33.56 | nsadmin | would help you to see what it's about |
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| 16:34.45 | PhonicUK | is there some kind of boot param i need to pass to boot from USB floppies? Theres no mention of it in the documentation |
| 16:35.03 | keith4 | you need to have bios that supports doing that |
| 16:35.42 | PhonicUK | it does support it |
| 16:35.53 | PhonicUK | i can boot DOS floppies etc no problem |
| 16:36.20 | keith4 | wtf does that have to do with USB? |
| 16:36.36 | PhonicUK | because im using a USB floppy drive? |
| 16:36.47 | PhonicUK | im trying to boot the installer from one |
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| 16:37.23 | keith4 | afaik, it doesn't matter if it's a USB floppy, CD, flash drive.. whatever |
| 16:37.26 | keith4 | USB is USB |
| 16:37.40 | PhonicUK | i know, problem is debian doesnt want to boot off it |
| 16:37.46 | Si1ver1ock | is debian webmin uptodate? |
| 16:37.46 | d-b | keith4: no. i don't think it is a problem. |
| 16:37.58 | keith4 | !webmin |
| 16:37.58 | dpkg | from memory, webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/ Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/12/msg00790.html about the removal. Don't use their .debs, they are of extremely poor quality. |
| 16:38.20 | keith4 | is webmin even packaged anymore? |
| 16:38.35 | d-b | keith4: no |
| 16:38.58 | Si1ver1ock | what is the preferred web based administration |
| 16:39.09 | keith4 | ha |
| 16:39.17 | d-b | Si1ver1ock: webmin, but people dont like it here, there is also ebox on ubuntu. |
| 16:39.19 | nsadmin | probably shell/cmdline/ssh |
| 16:39.27 | PhonicUK | anyone got any ideas how I can get thsi thing to boot? |
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| 16:39.46 | d-b | PhonicUK: why are you using floppies ? |
| 16:39.47 | nsadmin | looks like it is booting, just not getting all the way through |
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| 16:40.14 | PhonicUK | d-b because I have only a USB-FDD and a USB-CDROM, and i cant boot from the USB CDROM |
| 16:40.28 | keith4 | Si1ver1ock: what is the preferred telepathic-based administration? same answer |
| 16:40.31 | nsadmin | that's a good point too... have you actually come up with a good floppy out of a box of 20? |
| 16:40.35 | d-b | PhonicUK: really ? you can't boot from the usb cdrom |
| 16:40.47 | PhonicUK | d-b not from this BIOS anyway |
| 16:41.00 | keith4 | if you can't boot from USB cdrom, what would make you think you can boot from USB floppy? |
| 16:41.00 | d-b | so load the floppy -> cd ? |
| 16:41.10 | d-b | keith4: he has done it / has said so |
| 16:41.10 | PhonicUK | d-b: thats what im trying to do |
| 16:41.15 | d-b | AH. |
| 16:41.34 | d-b | this is a laptop right ? |
| 16:41.39 | Si1ver1ock | i wish there was a better critiaue than 'dont like it' |
| 16:41.41 | nsadmin | PhonicUK: btw what do you mean you can't boot from the cdrom? |
| 16:41.44 | PhonicUK | d-b: nope, mini-itx system |
| 16:42.00 | PhonicUK | nsadmin, it doesnt have an internal CDROM, only a USB one and the bios wont boot from a USB-CDROM |
| 16:42.11 | d-b | why not install debian to the hard disk from another box then ? |
| 16:42.24 | PhonicUK | thats a thought |
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| 16:42.50 | keith4 | or PXE boot |
| 16:43.12 | d-b | keith4: with that bios probably not rofl |
| 16:43.18 | PhonicUK | it can netboot actually |
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| 16:43.41 | PhonicUK | it can boot from USB-FDD, USB-ZIP, USB pen drives... |
| 16:43.46 | PhonicUK | just not damn USB CDs :( |
| 16:43.58 | PhonicUK | its annoying because it can see fd0 |
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| 16:44.09 | PhonicUK | but says it cant load a floppy module |
| 16:44.18 | PhonicUK | but its just loaded the kernel and initrd from it! xD |
| 16:44.24 | keith4 | wait a minute |
| 16:44.43 | keith4 | are you saying it can't boot from USB CD because "USB CDROM" isn't a choice in the boot menu? |
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| 16:45.07 | PhonicUK | keith4, correct - nor in the BIOS options |
| 16:45.19 | PhonicUK | doesnt actually have a boot menu, i have to change it in the BIOS each time |
| 16:46.00 | PhonicUK | tis a VIA EPIA 800 board im using xD |
| 16:46.06 | PhonicUK | one of the first mini-itx motherboards |
| 16:46.16 | keith4 | so you haven't actually tried to boot from the cd? |
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| 16:46.40 | PhonicUK | keith4, ive tried |
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| 16:48.19 | PhonicUK | maybe i need to specify the floppy module, but i dont know where i can see a list |
| 16:48.25 | PhonicUK | install floppy.floppy=X |
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| 16:54.48 | karsten | Answering my own question from yesterday or so: ethtool gives dvice driver info: ethtool --driver <interface>. Eg: ethtool --driver eth0 |
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| 16:57.59 | ttyX | can anyone tell me how long is each debian release supported? |
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| 16:58.11 | et | one year after the next comes out |
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| 16:58.54 | dretch | you can support yourself |
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| 17:00.20 | themill | karsten: also, "readlink /sys/class/net/eth0/device/driver" (there are plenty of other ways too... I just can never remember them) |
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| 17:06.59 | karsten | themill: *now* you tell me. |
| 17:07.10 | djcip | how do i expand an ext3 partition ? |
| 17:07.21 | themill | karsten: heh :) /msg dpkg which ethernet module |
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| 17:08.04 | karsten | themill: TWhere's the sport? |
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| 17:09.41 | themill | karsten: or /msg dpkg ethernet driver (I'll consolidate these) |
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| 17:12.10 | keith4 | djcip: resize2fs |
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| 17:14.28 | keith4 | !ethernet driver |
| 17:14.28 | dpkg | To find out what kernel modules your cards are using, look in dmesg, ask me about <which module for 0200>, use "ethtool --driver eth0", or "readlink /sys/class/net/eth0/device/driver" or run: for i in $ cut -f1 -d\ ; do readlink "/sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:$i/driver"; done |
| 17:15.02 | keith4 | hmmm |
| 17:15.21 | keith4 | that bash one-liner is a work in progress? |
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| 17:16.32 | themill | keith4: no... dpkg just ate bits on me.... |
| 17:16.39 | themill | !stupid bot |
| 17:16.40 | dpkg | no, stupid themill |
| 17:17.19 | keith4 | ha |
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| 17:19.50 | djcip | ok - keith4 how to expand the partition when the partition is my main partition ? |
| 17:20.09 | keith4 | djcip: resize2fs |
| 17:20.25 | keith4 | what is a "main" partition? |
| 17:20.39 | keith4 | you should definitely have a backup first, too |
| 17:20.47 | djcip | ok |
| 17:21.00 | djcip | one partition, /dev/sda1 mounts as / |
| 17:21.03 | keith4 | if you're not comfortable growing it while it's mounted/in-use, you can boot from something else and do it |
| 17:21.10 | keith4 | wait wait wait |
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| 17:21.22 | keith4 | stop |
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| 17:21.26 | djcip | ok.. |
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| 17:21.40 | keith4 | resize2fs can grow the filesystem |
| 17:21.48 | djcip | trying to expand sda1 from 10gb to 100gb... |
| 17:22.03 | keith4 | uhhh |
| 17:22.12 | keith4 | how big is the disk? |
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| 17:22.59 | djcip | 100 gb |
| 17:23.02 | djcip | ish |
| 17:23.13 | djcip | i mean it'd be cool if i could just have to grow to maximum... |
| 17:23.23 | maligor | should be possible |
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| 17:23.49 | maligor | parted might also have a resize feature |
| 17:24.15 | Pendrag01 | I am trying to run a cron job that scp's something from one server to another but need to be able to provide the password |
| 17:24.21 | djcip | ok - i dont have a gui though - i imagine it has a cli though |
| 17:24.56 | petemc | Pendrag01: use keys |
| 17:25.16 | maligor | djcip, just use resize2fs then |
| 17:25.21 | Pendrag01 | petemc, destination isn't my box, don't have access to it, but I know the username and password |
| 17:25.31 | petemc | Pendrag01: so upload a key |
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| 17:27.07 | djcip | maligor: how ? |
| 17:27.10 | keith4 | djcip: the rest of the disk is empty? |
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| 17:27.32 | Pendrag01 | ahh, true true |
| 17:27.41 | Pendrag01 | hmm, how do I have my cron job use the key? |
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| 17:28.02 | petemc | if you run it as a user, and that user has a key, it will |
| 17:28.25 | djcip | no there's sda2 which is one block, and then sda5 which is a swap |
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| 17:31.17 | stoned | good morning |
| 17:31.26 | stoned | well, afternoon, Ijust woke up |
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| 17:33.22 | Pendrag01 | ok, I did, hmm I wonder how I scp with an ssh key |
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| 17:34.01 | joltcan | Pendrag01: create a key, use ssh-copy-id to transfer it to the remote host, use -i key with scp |
| 17:34.01 | stoned | Pendrag01, you have the id_rsa.pub ? |
| 17:34.02 | Rowan_ | How do I fix my sound? It was working and now it doesn't work. I have an ICH8 motherboard and using ALSA. |
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| 17:34.25 | stoned | Pendrag01, copy this file to your client's ~/.ssh/authorized_keys2 |
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| 17:35.09 | stoned | Pendrag01, ssh-keygen -t rsa (on the server) copy id_rsa.pub |
| 17:35.17 | Pendrag01 | stoned, yes, I use ssh all the time |
| 17:35.18 | stoned | to authorized_keys2 and bingo |
| 17:35.28 | Pendrag01 | right now, the .ssh folder on both servers match |
| 17:35.36 | Pendrag01 | and I just found out I can ssh into both servers |
| 17:35.49 | stoned | your'e good then, I stop. |
| 17:35.54 | Pendrag01 | unfortuanatly I do not have admin of the destination box |
| 17:36.01 | Pendrag01 | so it prompts for the password |
| 17:36.08 | Pendrag01 | which tells me I am just using ssh wrong |
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| 17:36.14 | Pendrag01 | I mean scp |
| 17:36.57 | keith4 | djcip: um... you're probably SOL |
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| 17:37.44 | djcip | no - gparted live cd |
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| 17:38.08 | Pendrag01 | wtf is ssh-copy-id |
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| 17:38.13 | Pendrag01 | never heard of it before |
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| 17:39.52 | Pendrag01 | DAMN, ok, I typed this: scp -i/home/hedsteem/.ssh/hedsteem `find . -iname 'Stats*.log'` hedsteem@hedsteem.com:/home/hedsteem/public_html/ut3stats/ and now instead of askign for a password, it asks for a passphrase |
| 17:40.18 | valdyn | Pendrag01: so your id is passphrase protected |
| 17:40.31 | Pendrag01 | Ok, well I want this to be a cron |
| 17:40.38 | Pendrag01 | so is there a way to not get prompted? |
| 17:40.45 | valdyn | Pendrag01: so have an id that is not protected |
| 17:40.50 | keith4 | djcip: make a backup |
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| 17:40.54 | Pendrag01 | like is there a way to include A the pasword or B the phrase in the cron job |
| 17:41.00 | Pendrag01 | so I don't get prompted for it? |
| 17:41.16 | valdyn | Pendrag01: you already got told how to create an id |
| 17:41.33 | valdyn | Pendrag01: so create an unprotected id, its quite self explanatory |
| 17:41.35 | Pendrag01 | really? I am sorry, I missed it |
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| 17:42.07 | themill | You can either use ssh-agent to remember your passphrase for the cron job or make a separate key with no passphrase that can only be used for scp onto that box. (you can restrict what a key is used for in the .ssh/authorized_keys file) |
| 17:44.52 | Pendrag01 | cool! |
| 17:44.55 | Pendrag01 | thanks themill |
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| 17:52.14 | cads | hey all |
| 17:52.32 | cads | greetings from lenny |
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| 17:53.07 | nowhereman | hi, does anybody have an idea what the output from olsrd "TIMER: fire unknown timer 0x97453f0, ctx 0x97410b0, at clocktick 1193:02:46.9" could mean? |
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| 17:58.03 | valdyn | !cpufreq |
| 17:58.03 | dpkg | somebody said cpufreq was a patch (http://www.brodo.de/cpufreq_old) to the 2.4.x kernels to support frequency scaling on mobile x86, PowerPC and ARM processors. It has been merged into the 2.6.x series. It provides a simple interface (/proc/cpufreq) through which userspace daemons like cpudynd (in the "cpudyn" package) can throttle processor speed to save power when the system is idle. |
| 17:58.18 | valdyn | !cpufrequtils |
| 17:58.21 | valdyn | wth |
| 17:58.30 | valdyn | Meta: install cpufrequtils |
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| 17:58.37 | Meta | I've forgotten, how do I add moduals to load at start up? |
| 17:58.42 | Meta | modules* |
| 17:58.43 | amphi | Meta: or use the sysfs interface |
| 17:58.47 | valdyn | Meta: and adjust /etc/default/cpufrequtils |
| 17:59.03 | eanda-sbs | hello all. getting ready to install java on this Debox running lenny-AMD64. What pitfalls do i need to look out for. what package gives me a java capable iceweasel browser? |
| 17:59.08 | stoned | hey |
| 17:59.12 | stoned | look its amphi |
| 17:59.14 | Meta | valdyn: Will that automatically start speedstepping? |
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| 17:59.33 | valdyn | Meta: steps needed are documented in that file |
| 17:59.35 | stoned | wait speed step is bios controlled isn't? |
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| 18:00.11 | stoned | you can reduce vdim, vcore, fsb, clock multiplier through a software though? |
| 18:00.22 | stoned | is that what is talking about? |
| 18:00.47 | stoned | eanda-sbs, for amd64 you need to use nspluginwrapper and java |
| 18:00.52 | valdyn | stoned: or maybe he's using speedstep as a generic term for cpu frequency scaling |
| 18:00.55 | stoned | eanda-sbs, java exists for amd64, but no browser plugin |
| 18:01.04 | stoned | valdyn, oh ok |
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| 18:01.19 | stoned | eanda-sbs, you have to /msg dpkg nspluginwrapper |
| 18:01.37 | stoned | eanda-sbs, same with flash |
| 18:02.00 | stew | eanda-sbs: icedtea-gcjwebplugin is a java pluign for amd64 |
| 18:02.04 | valdyn | !speedstep |
| 18:02.04 | dpkg | somebody said speedstep was the frequency scaling feature found on some Intel mobile processors. Ask me about {cpufreq}. |
| 18:02.08 | Meta | valdyn: Orly? That file doesn't exist. |
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| 18:02.31 | stew | eanda-sbs: for flash, if you want a free implementation there is gnash, if you want the non-free adobe implementation, install flashplugin-nonfree from sid's contrib |
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| 18:02.37 | valdyn | Meta: you need to install the package with the same name |
| 18:02.45 | Meta | I did. |
| 18:02.57 | sundaymorning | I use swfdec for free flash |
| 18:03.05 | stew | yeah, that is another option |
| 18:03.07 | sundaymorning | it's what came by default here |
| 18:03.13 | valdyn | Meta: and /etc/default/cpufrequtils does not exist? |
| 18:03.13 | stew | oh but he actually didn't ask about flash |
| 18:03.20 | Meta | valdyn: No sir |
| 18:03.22 | stoned | whoah |
| 18:03.25 | valdyn | !confmiss |
| 18:03.25 | dpkg | the reason you have to use dpkg --force-confmiss is because whenever your config files (<conffiles>) are gone, dpkg assumes you deleted them on purpose, and that you want them to stay deleted. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename>; or using aptitude, aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" reinstall <packagename>; |
| 18:03.27 | Sazpaimon | Ive got a pretty dumb question. How does encrypted LVM work, do you need to give the key whenever you boot from it? |
| 18:03.29 | valdyn | Meta: ^^^ |
| 18:03.30 | stoned | there is java plugin for amd64 browser!??!! |
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| 18:03.39 | stoned | and flash? without ia32libs or nspluginwrapper!? |
| 18:03.45 | stoned | wtf is going on in the world! |
| 18:03.51 | stoned | when did this happen? |
| 18:03.54 | Meta | valdyn: Eh? |
| 18:04.04 | valdyn | Meta: read and follow what dpkg said |
| 18:04.11 | stoned | well i'll be damned |
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| 18:04.31 | amphi | stoned: there's been a 64bit flash plugin alpha for some time; I haven't paid attention to subsequent progress, if any |
| 18:04.39 | Meta | valdyn: That first command doesn't work |
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| 18:04.48 | stoned | amphi, yeh thats awesome |
| 18:04.48 | sundaymorning | stoned: when what happened? |
| 18:04.50 | valdyn | Meta: which command does not work? |
| 18:04.56 | Meta | The first one. dpkg --force-confmiss |
| 18:05.00 | stoned | sundaymorning, amd64 flash/java plugins |
| 18:05.02 | amphi | stoned: I find myself fairly unmoved |
| 18:05.04 | valdyn | Meta: thats not a command |
| 18:05.11 | Meta | Gah |
| 18:05.23 | stoned | amphi, really? |
| 18:05.33 | x1250 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:05.37 | x1250 | :D |
| 18:05.41 | stoned | amphi, perhaps for me is the initial shock! after I test out, I'm sure I'll shit on its quality |
| 18:05.50 | stoned | x1250, #debian-chat |
| 18:05.50 | sundaymorning | hm, dunno, when I finally got a amd64 processor and installed amd64 debian everything worked |
| 18:05.53 | stoned | :D |
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| 18:06.06 | x1250 | stoned, ok :) |
| 18:06.10 | Meta | valdyn: Could you explain it? I don't understand the help |
| 18:06.30 | sundaymorning | I like swfdec quality, beats having no flash at all back when I didn't know any free alternative. |
| 18:06.34 | valdyn | Meta: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall cpufrequtils |
| 18:06.40 | valdyn | Meta: ^^^ that is a command |
| 18:06.59 | valdyn | Meta: err, ops |
| 18:07.03 | valdyn | Meta: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install cpufrequtils |
| 18:07.10 | Meta | And the help file led me to believe that " was the end of the thing |
| 18:07.13 | valdyn | Meta: sorry, ^ is complete |
| 18:07.41 | Meta | CPUFreq Utilities: Setting ondemand CPUFreq governor...disabled, governor not available...done. |
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| 18:09.14 | Meta | Help? |
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| 18:09.25 | Meta | Weird error and still no config file, valdyn |
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| 18:10.31 | eanda-sbs | <stew> thanks.. what about a java implementation. do I have to worry about 64bit |
| 18:10.51 | hark | and we cross 900 |
| 18:11.18 | stew | eanda-sbs: icedtea-gcjwebplugin is the open source java plugin that comes from openjdk |
| 18:11.18 | valdyn | Meta: uname -r |
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| 18:11.26 | amphi | Meta: you have the ondemand governator module loaded? |
| 18:11.30 | Meta | valdyn: My uname doesn't output that |
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| 18:11.43 | Meta | amphi: I presumed it would be loaded when I installed the utils |
| 18:11.50 | valdyn | Meta: i want to see the output of your uname -r |
| 18:11.57 | Meta | 2.6.26-1-686 |
| 18:12.01 | stew | eanda-sbs: if that one doesn't work, there is the non-free one from sun, but it is not yet packaged |
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| 18:12.20 | stoned | what about make-jpkg? |
| 18:12.32 | stew | eanda-sbs: if you end up having to use the non-free one from sun, you should try making a .deb out of it with the make-jpkg tool from java-package |
| 18:12.32 | stoned | and the java runtime downloaded package from sun |
| 18:12.54 | valdyn | Meta: cpufrequtils: /etc/default/cpufrequtils |
| 18:13.04 | valdyn | Meta: i dont know why you still dont have that file |
| 18:13.06 | stew | eanda-sbs: but definately try icedtea first. i don't know if, for instance, make-jpkg on amd64 is making assumptions that there is no plugin or something |
| 18:13.32 | Meta | valdyn: Is it cpufreqd? |
| 18:13.59 | valdyn | Meta: where do I EVER mention cpufreqd ? |
| 18:14.08 | eanda-sbs | <stew> thanks again. i'll try icedtea first. is that in the main debian repository? |
| 18:14.14 | Meta | Hey, I was just checking /etc/default for possible suspects, don't bite my head off |
| 18:14.15 | stew | eanda-sbs: yes |
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| 18:14.29 | eanda-sbs | <stew> ok |
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| 18:16.36 | eanda-sbs | <stew> installing it now. looks like it will be ok.. but it is bringing a bunch of other stuff with it. As long as it works though I don't care.. |
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| 18:17.03 | stew | eanda-sbs: yes, i'd expect it to bring some stuff like the openjdk jre and some fonts at least |
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| 18:17.31 | Meta | lies her head on the desk |
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| 18:18.15 | morfol | hey i want to compare 2 folders on changes files. how can i do that or where do i start looking? |
| 18:18.33 | EulGlaude | man diff |
| 18:18.38 | stew | morfol: diff -ru dir1 dir2 |
| 18:18.48 | morfol | thanks |
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| 18:19.28 | eanda-sbs | <stew> yep.. hey next question.. and i know this is subjective... for multimedia im looking for a package that can do it all...ie play audio cd video cd rip dvd and cd burn dvd and cd. what package is out there that can do most of that |
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| 18:19.53 | themill | morfol: there are also nice visual diff tools that let you walk around the tree, like kdiff3 |
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| 18:20.25 | morfol | themill thanks, but i perfer the console stuff ;) |
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| 18:20.52 | stew | eanda-sbs: mplayer / vlc can do a lot of playback. for burning dvd and cd, you might look at "apt-cache rdepends wodim" for possible packages |
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| 18:21.08 | themill | morfol: when there are a lot of changes and you want to wander through them, a mouse can be faster. |
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| 18:21.52 | eanda-sbs | <stew> ok thanks man. What is the difference between vlc and mplayer |
| 18:22.20 | morfol | themill thats true too, i ll give kdiff3 a try then thanks abunch |
| 18:22.42 | sundaymorning | I like k3b for burning dvds |
| 18:22.43 | themill | morfol: the right tool for the right job :) |
| 18:22.46 | stew | eanda-sbs: for 'ripping a dvd', its just a matter of copying the files off it, unless the dvd is encrypted |
| 18:23.01 | cads | hey I've got an old crusty ubuntu install in the recesses of my creaky harddrive. i want to get some trivial piece of data from a desktop app in the old install, and I was wondering if there's any way I could run the old xserver at the same time as my shiny new lenny environment, so that I could retrieve my data without having to bring the whole system down. |
| 18:23.17 | stew | eanda-sbs: mplayer and vlc are two different implementations of the same thing "media player that tries to be able to play anything" |
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| 18:23.50 | sundaymorning | themill: in fact, in that case using pgup and pgdown is probably a lot faster and more precise than the mouse |
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| 18:24.30 | themill | sundaymorning: but impossible to jump from one part of a tree of diffs to another. |
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| 18:25.19 | sundaymorning | themill: you mean if you diff several files in a roll? |
| 18:25.34 | themill | sundaymorning: I mean diff -r /path1 /path2 |
| 18:25.52 | tdn | How do I get sshd to listen on multiple ports? Do I need to have two seperate sshds -- one on each port? How do I do this? |
| 18:26.08 | themill | sundaymorning: where -r is recursive and there could be thousands of files beneath that that have changed |
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| 18:26.43 | \amethyst | tdn: you can have multiple ListenAddress directives in sshd_config |
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| 18:27.31 | \amethyst | tdn: (and you would specify the port with ListenAddress rather than with the Port option) |
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| 18:28.14 | tdn | \amethyst, ok. thanks. |
| 18:28.54 | stoned | themill, only use 'that' once |
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| 18:30.12 | sundaymorning | that kdiff3 could be handy |
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| 18:30.33 | zash_ | there is also med |
| 18:30.35 | zash_ | meld |
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| 18:32.11 | EulGlaude | diff is the tool |
| 18:32.19 | EulGlaude | rsync is another tool |
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| 18:35.01 | stoned | is it possible to change the inode size from 256 to 128 without destroying data on ext3 volume? |
| 18:35.20 | julian | is there an ETA on when linux-kbuild-2.6.28 will be in the repos? currently linux-headers-2.6.28-* aren't installable because of this missing dependency. |
| 18:35.31 | sundaymorning | hm, too bad kdiff3 doesn't seem to integrate too well with git :-( |
| 18:35.44 | abrotman | julian: after lenny is released |
| 18:36.15 | julian | cheers |
| 18:36.26 | tdn | Howcome X forwarded programs are unbearingly slow when I use "ssh -ACY <host>" and then start Firefox? Firefox is about 1 minute to start, and then it is *very* slow. I have reasonably fast internet connections. About 1mbit/1mbit in both ends. |
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| 18:36.39 | julian | googles for when lenny will be released |
| 18:36.52 | eanda-sbs | <stew> looks like vlc is a little more modern than mplayer. |
| 18:36.55 | stew | julian: as soon as it is ready, see /msg dpkg lenny status |
| 18:36.59 | stew | eanda-sbs: its not |
| 18:37.17 | maligor | someone should make a 8ball for making set-in-stone predictions about release dates |
| 18:37.20 | eanda-sbs | <stew> you recommend? |
| 18:37.59 | stew | eanda-sbs: whichever you like better. note that mplayer is only command line, you might want gmplayer as a frontend to it |
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| 18:38.36 | eanda-sbs | <stew> yes i did see that.. there is also splayer front end too |
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| 18:38.52 | EulGlaude | for listening flac, mp3, ogg, mpc, mocp is a real killer |
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| 18:39.26 | julian | stew: cheers. |
| 18:39.37 | eanda-sbs | <stew> now what are exaile and amorak? |
| 18:40.01 | stew | eanda-sbs: i think amarok is an audio player, but i'm not sure, try "apt-cache show exaile amorak" |
| 18:40.38 | eanda-sbs | <stew> ok i'll go read. back in a while... thanks again for your help |
| 18:40.46 | Trewas | tdn: 1mbit is very slow for running X apps, I would not bother without LAN speeds (at least 10mbit) |
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| 18:43.10 | newdebianuser | hi guys |
| 18:43.22 | Alan | hi |
| 18:43.23 | tdn | Trewas, even if I have compression on? Even for simple apps like xclock? |
| 18:44.27 | tdn | Trewas, I have been using X programs on slower connections than this, and it was a lot faster. |
| 18:44.29 | Trewas | tdn: it may be good enough for simple apps, but firefox has to probably transfer a lot of bitmaps which do not compress well |
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| 18:44.41 | newdebianuser | when i try to install irssi I get the message tht libperl is required but it is not going to be installed |
| 18:45.09 | tdn | Trewas, but I am browsing with a very little window and text-only pages. ALSO xclock is just as slow as Firefox. |
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| 18:45.12 | abrotman | newdebianuser: which version of debian? |
| 18:45.18 | newdebianuser | etch |
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| 18:45.27 | stew | newdebianuser: show us the actual output |
| 18:45.36 | abrotman | newdebianuser: done an aptitude update lately? |
| 18:46.00 | abrotman | there was a perl update .. what, a week ago? |
| 18:46.06 | newdebianuser | i use synaptic and i hit reload everytime i install the package |
| 18:46.21 | stew | a month ago? |
| 18:46.36 | newdebianuser | * everytime i instal a packagel |
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| 18:47.17 | stew | newdebianuser: show us the output of "apt-cache policy irssi libperl5.8 libc6" ; use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
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| 18:47.33 | newdebianuser | ok |
| 18:47.42 | abrotman | stew: oh, yeah, more than a month |
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| 18:48.33 | Trewas | tdn: compared to some earlier times, font handling in modern X apps may require sending bitmaps instead of just text |
| 18:48.50 | tdn | Hmm... |
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| 18:49.30 | tdn | Trewas, well... Clock is very slow and does not use any fancy bitmaps for text. It only has a small clock. |
| 18:50.21 | newdebianuser | here it is: http://paste.debian.net/26561/ |
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| 18:51.40 | stew | newdebianuser: that all looks fine. can you show us what happens when you run "aptitude install irssi" |
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| 18:51.59 | zash_ | is widgets renderd by the client/program? |
| 18:52.16 | Trewas | tdn: sorry, I have no idea what could be the problem then |
| 18:52.25 | abrotman | that's not right, that candidate should be etch6 |
| 18:52.26 | tdn | Trewas, ok. |
| 18:52.31 | sneezewort | If I move one ip from one server to another is there a linux command that can announce this change to all switches in the network? |
| 18:52.55 | abrotman | newdebianuser: could you put your sources.list in a pastebin too |
| 18:52.57 | EulGlaude | sneezewort, arping |
| 18:53.05 | sneezewort | OK thanks |
| 18:54.00 | EulGlaude | sneezewort, you'll have to send a gratuitous arp response with the arp command |
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| 18:54.42 | newdebianuser | here it is: http://paste.debian.net/26563/ |
| 18:54.53 | simonrvn | EulGlaude: you == Eulex, or is that just coincidence? |
| 18:54.56 | newdebianuser | strangely synaptic is not asking for pasword as well |
| 18:55.10 | Eulex | simonrvn, coincidence |
| 18:55.18 | newdebianuser | but it installed this client tirc just now |
| 18:55.23 | EulGlaude | simonrvn, coincidence |
| 18:55.25 | newdebianuser | it is very hard to use |
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| 18:55.38 | simonrvn | if you've already done something reuqesting privs then it won't, if you've set it that way. |
| 18:55.43 | simonrvn | EulGlaude: 'k |
| 18:55.51 | Si1ver1ock | is kvm availbable on etch in a workable condition? |
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| 18:56.44 | Si1ver1ock | available i mean |
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| 18:57.24 | stew | newdebianuser: you'd need to run aptitude as root, and you'd have to quit synaptic (or any other package manager) first |
| 18:58.20 | simonrvn | also recommends aptitude ;) |
| 18:58.47 | eanda-sbs | <stew> mplayer looks great however, it calls itself a movie player. am I to assume then that I cannot use this to play audio cds? If I can't then I presume that I would want to install a cd audio player like exaile or rythymbox? |
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| 18:59.05 | stew | eanda-sbs: mplayer is also an audio player |
| 18:59.49 | eanda-sbs | <stew> awesome then. how about ripping dvd and audio cd does it do that as well? |
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| 19:00.18 | stew | eanda-sbs: no, rippind dvd is just a matter of copying the files off it, unless the dvd is encrypted/copy protected |
| 19:00.37 | stew | eanda-sbs: for ripping audio you want command line tools like cdparanoia or gui tools like grip |
| 19:00.45 | newdebianuser | there are a lot of packages i need to install but in synaptic it doesn't allow me to install libperl5.8 althought it is displayed |
| 19:00.49 | stew | eanda-sbs: apt-cache search should be able to find you many options for ripping audio cds |
| 19:00.52 | karsten | simonrvn: Watch it. You might be accused of having a bad aptitide. |
| 19:00.57 | karsten | has a really bad aptitude. |
| 19:01.53 | stew | newdebianuser: do you get an error when you try to install libperl5.8? can you show us the output of "aptitude install libperl5.8" ? |
| 19:01.53 | karsten | eanda-sbs: grip rawks for CD ripping. |
| 19:01.53 | eanda-sbs | <stew> ok. awesome then. I'll will do mplayer and then find the dvd and cd ripper software later |
| 19:02.03 | eanda-sbs | <stew> thanks again for the help |
| 19:02.11 | stew | eanda-sbs: you're welcome |
| 19:02.32 | stew | eanda-sbs: btw, when you say "<stew>" instead of "stew:" or "stew," it looks like you are misquoting me rather than addressing me |
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| 19:03.02 | PhonicUK | hey all, I'm having a hard time installing webmin |
| 19:03.21 | bluequijote | I can not run audacity with jack. I try few things but I have not idea how to do that audaity can see jack. someone? |
| 19:03.25 | eanda-sbs | Oh what do I enter so that it highlights your name when I send a message |
| 19:03.27 | stew | PhonicUK: that's a good thing. using it is discouraged |
| 19:03.45 | PhonicUK | stew, is there another web-based configuration tool that I can use then? |
| 19:03.49 | stew | eanda-sbs: stew: or stew, ; if you type "s<tab>" or "st<tab>" it should auto complete that for you |
| 19:04.03 | stew | PhonicUK: what do you need to configure? |
| 19:04.16 | eanda-sbs | stew I'll rembemer that |
| 19:04.18 | PhonicUK | DHCP and DNS |
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| 19:04.39 | newdebianuser | what does this mean: Depends: perl-base (=5.8.8-7etch4) but 5.8.8-7etch6 is to be installed |
| 19:04.43 | Fox_1_ | hi all |
| 19:04.43 | eanda-sbs | stew: oops, how bout this |
| 19:04.55 | newdebianuser | that is the error that synaptic throws up when trying to install libperl |
| 19:04.56 | stew | eanda-sbs: its not a big deal :) |
| 19:05.09 | stew | newdebianuser: you probably need a security line in sources.list: /msg dpkg security |
| 19:05.10 | Fox_1_ | people did you installed QuickTime firefox plugin under Debian lenny? |
| 19:05.13 | PhonicUK | why is webmin discouraged anyway? |
| 19:05.33 | dkr | In etch, when I clicked a link in icedove, it opened the link in the browser and left iceweasel where it was. in lenny, it now pulls iceweasel to the same desktop as icedove (same if I "open in browser" in xchat)). Any idea what setting I can tweak to change this desktop hopping behavior? |
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| 19:05.44 | eanda-sbs | stew: between you and abortman you two have been extremely helpful in my debian endeavors. again thaks.. |
| 19:05.50 | EmleyMoor | Fox_1_: I'm not sure that's possible |
| 19:05.53 | craigevil | Fox_1_: mplayer-plugin plays quicktime |
| 19:05.56 | eanda-sbs | talk to you later |
| 19:06.21 | EmleyMoor | I was about to suggest that |
| 19:06.22 | stew | PhonicUK: its historically been riddled with security problems, which is very much not good when it comes to something that is exposing stuff via the web that only root should be able to get to |
| 19:06.25 | dkr | PhonicUK: security, inaccuracy |
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| 19:06.39 | Fox_1_ | ok, thanks I'll try mplayer-plugin |
| 19:06.41 | newdebianuser | ok thanks for all the help, good day |
| 19:06.49 | PhonicUK | security is irrelvant here, its inside the firewall and cant be accessed by the outside world |
| 19:07.01 | stew | PhonicUK: it was in debian but it was removed becuase nobody wanted to deal with it. nobody has been willing to maintain it but the webmin authors themselves, but their packages were rejected becuase they were of such low quality |
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| 19:07.08 | dkr | PhonicUK: most security problems occur from inside the network |
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| 19:07.29 | PhonicUK | mmm ok |
| 19:07.36 | PhonicUK | what would people recommend usign instead? |
| 19:07.37 | dkr | PhonicUK: learn how to edit config files. the skill will serve you well. :) |
| 19:07.44 | dkr | ssh |
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| 19:07.50 | PhonicUK | I can edit them fine, but for my client this is not acceptable |
| 19:07.58 | simonrvn | learn to use vim/emacs/nano/... |
| 19:08.02 | PhonicUK | my requirements list web based administration |
| 19:08.09 | PhonicUK | for the DHCP/DNS |
| 19:08.24 | PhonicUK | or an X application that can do it |
| 19:08.47 | stew | gvim! |
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| 19:08.55 | PhonicUK | -_- |
| 19:09.09 | PhonicUK | now I know why he wanted to use server 2003 instead |
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| 19:09.34 | stew | yeah, i'd imagine 2003 makes it much easier to add security vulnerabilities :) |
| 19:09.44 | simonrvn | heheh |
| 19:10.10 | dkr | PhonicUK: gadmin-bind? gadmin-dhcpd? |
| 19:10.16 | simonrvn | dhcp/dns isn't hard to configure via file |
| 19:10.17 | PhonicUK | thanks dkr :) |
| 19:10.19 | dkr | (just did a aptitude search. haven't sued) |
| 19:10.19 | damog | fluffles stoned |
| 19:10.21 | dkr | used |
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| 19:11.00 | jpinx | /server irc.debian.org |
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| 19:11.32 | Fox_1_ | also I have a problem with network-manager-kde |
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| 19:13.21 | Fox_1_ | at home I use lan to connect to internet, as work I use wifi. so, at work it works good, recognize wifi and connect automatically, but at home it shows that the cable disconnected. any solution? |
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| 19:15.55 | Fox_1_ | anyone? |
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| 19:26.10 | pobega | Does anyone else find JFS to be a bit unstable? |
| 19:26.27 | EmleyMoor | Never used jfs |
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| 19:28.57 | jpinx | anyone got experience of the methods of even usage of ssd cards to extend their life? |
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| 19:29.20 | jpinx | they seem to have a re-write limit of about 100,000 |
| 19:29.27 | pobega | jpinx: SSD or flash? |
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| 19:29.37 | jpinx | both actually |
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| 19:29.51 | abrotman | jpinx: if it's newer, that number should be higher |
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| 19:30.23 | joltcan | I wouldn't put a logserver on a flash/ssd, but otherwise they seem to behave just fine |
| 19:30.26 | Eulex | jpinx, ssd:s have 'protection' (spreading of reads and writes) for that builtin, flash doesn't |
| 19:30.42 | jpinx | abrotman: Hmm - the website gave me 100,000 |
| 19:31.13 | jpinx | Eulex: cool - -that's one less problem to fix today;) |
| 19:31.14 | abrotman | jpinx: if the manuf said that, then go by that, but my understanding is that newer/better ones go farther |
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| 19:31.34 | jpinx | abrotman: the ssd in teh eeepc is about a year old |
| 19:31.49 | Eulex | jpinx, at least I believe so. |
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| 19:32.13 | jpinx | Eulex: any references I can look up? I found nothing relevant on google |
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| 19:34.04 | craigevil | jpinx: i have had my 701 running Debian sid since last Feb no problems so far |
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| 19:34.51 | jpinx | craigevil: cool -- I'm running lenny modified by the debian-eeepc guys |
| 19:35.04 | jpinx | it's great :D |
| 19:35.26 | jpinx | restrains himself from raving about eeepc's |
| 19:35.30 | pobega | jpinx: Just fyi, you could avoid journaling filesystems |
| 19:35.48 | pobega | But personally on my Eee I use mainly journaling ones, I'd rather have the data be safe than the SSD last longer. |
| 19:35.52 | jpinx | pobega: would that not slow down the access times? |
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| 19:36.04 | craigevil | uses ext2 |
| 19:36.15 | pobega | craigevil: doesn't ext2 corrupt easily? |
| 19:36.34 | craigevil | havent had any issues in a yr of using it on my 701 4g |
| 19:36.36 | Eulex | jpinx, what I had read seems to be specific to Intel's SSD:s -- but check out http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/intel/showdoc.aspx?i=3403&p=3 which has explanations |
| 19:36.48 | craigevil | jpinx: http://wiki.eeeuser.com/ssd_write_limit |
| 19:36.56 | jpinx | Eulex: thanks-- reading...... |
| 19:37.14 | jpinx | craigevil: yea- - got that one |
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| 19:38.11 | pobega | craigevil: Heh, funny, as I said before I've been having tons of problems with JFS. |
| 19:38.17 | craigevil | pobega: i have /tmp and /var/tmp on tmpfs , and /var/run and /var/lock in ram |
| 19:38.23 | Eulex | jpinx, also check out the few pages after that one. |
| 19:38.30 | pobega | How can I force my system to do a fsck even if I am on battery power? |
| 19:38.38 | pobega | I think that may be part of the problem. |
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| 19:39.39 | eanda-sbs | stew: problem with mplayer. I have to configure which drive I've tried /dev/cdrom /dev/cdrom0 /media/cdrom /media/cdrom0 none of these workwhen I click audio cd. However sound juicer does recognize it. |
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| 19:42.44 | Eulex | jpinx, http://wiki.eeeuser.com/ssd_write_limit appears to be quite good |
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| 19:44.48 | jpinx | Eulex: thanks |
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| 19:46.56 | stew | eanda-sbs: try "mplayer cdda://" |
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| 19:48.55 | jackweb | Hello. I've got following problem: I installed Arch Linux and didn't install GRUB - I had it on Debian. When I rebooted my computer, GRUB didn't run. There was text: 'GRUB ' x infinity. I tried to install GRUB on Arch Linux, but later I installed it on Debian. It turns on, but there is an error 5: Partition table invalid or corrupt. |
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| 19:49.28 | eanda-sbs | stew: message Playing cdda://. Can't open disc failed to open cdda://. |
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| 19:50.03 | jackweb | What's wrong with GRUB? What I have to do? |
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| 19:50.52 | jelly-home | eanda-sbs: can you pastebin the output of ls -ld /dev/{scd,sr,cdrom,dvd}* |
| 19:50.58 | cads | jackweb: that doesn't sound like a fun error I'm afraid |
| 19:51.10 | cads | jackweb: are you able to get into your system with a live disk? |
| 19:51.19 | jackweb | cads: yes |
| 19:51.25 | jackweb | I am on Arch Linux LiveCD |
| 19:51.36 | jackweb | I'm chrooting |
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| 19:51.50 | cads | ah, that goes to reason.. and you're able to mount your old partitions just fine? |
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| 19:52.18 | Fox_1_ | what can I use instead of KNetworkManager in KDE? |
| 19:52.25 | cads | well then I'd try installing grub using the command line |
| 19:52.41 | spooktino | would disabling dhcp and setting a static ip address cause the network panel in gnome to show my network connection as disconnected even though I am connected? |
| 19:52.46 | jackweb | cads: aptitude install grub? |
| 19:52.59 | craigevil | Fox_1_: for wireless? try wicd |
| 19:53.17 | Fox_1_ | for both - wireless and lan |
| 19:53.45 | cads | the install livecd should already have grub installed. instead, what you should do is invoke grub from the command line, which is something like grub install /dev/hda /boot/grub/menu.lst |
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| 19:54.02 | dkr | spooktino: how did you set the static ip? manually with ifconfig, or properly in /etc/network/interfaces :) |
| 19:54.05 | Fox_1_ | also instead of network-manager |
| 19:54.20 | cads | jackweb: I'm not sure on the exact syntax, but you run grub, tell it what partition to install on, and what grub menu to use |
| 19:54.21 | craigevil | Fox_1_: Wicd is an open source wired and wireless network manager for Linux which aims to provide a simple interface to connect to networks with a wide variety of settings |
| 19:54.27 | spooktino | dkr: I edited /etc/network/interfaces |
| 19:54.40 | Fox_1_ | be cause it doesn't recognize my network card |
| 19:54.51 | dondelelcaro | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:55.04 | jackweb | cads: # grub? |
| 19:55.05 | craigevil | Fox_1_: http://wicd.sourceforge.net/ what chipset in the card? |
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| 19:55.21 | eanda-sbs | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:55.27 | Fox_1_ | I don't know, it's an laptop card |
| 19:55.31 | dkr | spooktino: I'd not expect network panel to be confused, then. but I have heard of some issues with that code before, maybe it's a bug |
| 19:55.45 | cads | jackweb: do # man grub to find out exactly what you need to do. once you install grub the boot record might be fixed, but if there's another kind of corruption going on, then i don't know how to fix that |
| 19:55.46 | jackweb | cads: so have I to aptitude remove grub on Debian? |
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| 19:56.10 | eanda-sbs | jelly-home: didyou get that message |
| 19:56.40 | cads | well, the grub that you run is just a program that can install the grub bootloader into your harddrive, jackweb |
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| 19:56.48 | cads | one moment |
| 19:57.21 | jackweb | ok |
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| 19:58.24 | jelly-home | eanda-sbs: ho-hum. What IS your cdrom/dvd device, then? /dev/hdsomething? |
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| 19:59.44 | craigevil | Fox_1_: run lspci and look for the ethernet/wireless card |
| 19:59.46 | cads | alright, jackweb, you ready for some commandline? |
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| 19:59.54 | jackweb | cads: yes |
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| 20:00.44 | cads | alright. go to a root terminal and type grub |
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| 20:00.56 | cads | that should make the grub shell appear |
| 20:01.00 | jackweb | yes |
| 20:01.03 | jackweb | it is - on LiveCD |
| 20:01.16 | cads | then try find /boot/grub/stage1 |
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| 20:01.29 | nbeebo | dont know if this is right channel but, how to watch my tv and use the tv as a monitor for my computer at the same time? kinda, if u understand but cant answer plz help me rephrase... lol |
| 20:01.37 | jackweb | cads: (hd1,0) |
| 20:02.10 | eanda-sbs | <jelly-home> thats what I'm trying to find out |
| 20:02.10 | cads | it's just one, and not two of them? |
| 20:02.23 | jackweb | only one\ |
| 20:02.28 | jelly-home | eanda-sbs: pastebin your dmesg |
| 20:02.29 | cads | ok |
| 20:02.47 | dutchfish | nbeebo, if you vid-adapter has av input you could monitor with something like /dev/video0 after you installed the right packages |
| 20:02.52 | eanda-sbs | jelly-home: ok brb |
| 20:03.06 | cads | well this should get it working again, type root (hd1,0) |
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| 20:03.32 | jelly-home | eanda-sbs: or do dmesg|egrep -i 'dvd|cd-?rom' yourself :-) |
| 20:03.51 | jackweb | cads: file system type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83 |
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| 20:04.01 | dutchfish | nbeebo, vlc and videolan or mplayer can do that |
| 20:04.11 | cads | jackweb: so far what we've done is tell grub about an install that exists in the /boot/grub directory of your second harddrive, first partition |
| 20:04.29 | cads | jackweb: do you normally boot off of the second harddrive? |
| 20:04.48 | cads | and do you have windows, maybe installed on a different harddrive? |
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| 20:04.56 | nbeebo | dutchfish, i dont know what u mean with first, but i need a cable from tv to my computer right? |
| 20:04.59 | jackweb | I have only now Debian |
| 20:05.20 | jackweb | now only* |
| 20:05.36 | cads | jackaweb, cool, if you're fairly certain you want to scrub what was there before so that you can boot the thing using you grub files, then |
| 20:05.42 | cads | type setup (hd1) |
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| 20:05.48 | dutchfish | nbeebo, if you want record your computer no, you need mon-out-comp-1 -> vga -> converter -> av-in-comp2 |
| 20:05.58 | eanda-sbs | jelly-home ok it is up there nameis Ernest Smith |
| 20:06.15 | jelly-home | huh? |
| 20:06.31 | dutchfish | nbeebo, if you just want to watch tv, you can config a tv card |
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| 20:06.36 | cads | jackweb: then you can type quit, and reboot your system in hopes of everything being restored |
| 20:06.38 | eanda-sbs | jelly-home here is the number m5fb82eb8 |
| 20:06.40 | jelly-home | eanda-sbs: write the url here :-) |
| 20:06.57 | jelly-home | there's more than one pastebin |
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| 20:07.07 | eanda-sbs | http://pastebin.com/m5fb82eb8 |
| 20:07.17 | eanda-sbs | is that what you needed |
| 20:07.24 | nbeebo | dutchfish, u know i want to watch tv inside linux and i use the tv as a monitor right? |
| 20:07.27 | jelly-home | eanda-sbs: yes, that's great |
| 20:07.42 | jackweb | cads: I did root and setup on grub today. |
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| 20:08.03 | dutchfish | nbeebo, again: you want to watch tv, on your computer screens monitor, and use computer at the same time? |
| 20:08.10 | eanda-sbs | I did put a data cd in the drive and it mounts it perfectly |
| 20:08.44 | jackweb | but I'll try reboot |
| 20:08.49 | nbeebo | dutchfish, yes, and i use the tv as the monitor for my computer |
| 20:08.52 | eanda-sbs | also sound -juicer mounts an audio cd but I can't play it |
| 20:09.11 | nbeebo | as my only monitor |
| 20:09.27 | dutchfish | nbeebo, for using your tv as a monitor you need av output and some modulator -> tv in |
| 20:09.30 | jelly-home | eanda-sbs: ookay, so both /dev/hda and /dev/hdc are dvd writers. (lines 430 and 434) |
| 20:09.49 | dutchfish | nbeebo, or: vga out -> converter -> tv |
| 20:10.02 | eanda-sbs | jelly-fish: yes I have two of them |
| 20:10.17 | cads | jackweb: did grub go through its install routine and give the a-ok on everything? |
| 20:10.38 | nbeebo | dutchfish, im already using tv as monitor... sorry im a noob.. whats vga? |
| 20:10.38 | dutchfish | nbeebo, but a tv has poor quality as a monitor for a computer .... |
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| 20:11.27 | nbeebo | dutchfish, yes but i want to use my 24" monitor and the tv as a monitor at the same time, and possible to watch tv on it without switching channels |
| 20:11.28 | eanda-sbs | jelly-fish so I need to config mplayer for /dev/hda and /dev/hdc |
| 20:11.35 | jelly-home | eanda-sbs: write either "jelly" or my current nick or I'll miss your line (it doesn't get highlighted) |
| 20:11.47 | dutchfish | nbeebo, ah ok, so you want to watch tv on your tv THROUGH your computer? |
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| 20:12.02 | simonrvn | or use <TAB> |
| 20:12.11 | dutchfish | nbeebo, for that you need a tv-card\ |
| 20:12.21 | eanda-sbs | jelly: so do I put in jelly-home: or <jelly-home> |
| 20:12.32 | nbeebo | dutchfish, poo.. but ok,.. |
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| 20:12.56 | nbeebo | dutchfish, thanks for all anyway |
| 20:13.11 | bela | Hi, which package contains daytime |
| 20:13.26 | nbeebo | apt-cache search daytime in console maybe ull find it |
| 20:13.34 | dutchfish | nbeebo, so this gives 1. computer -> av -> tv 2. tvard -> computer (wich results in being watching tv THROUGH your computer at the same time |
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| 20:13.50 | dutchfish | nbeebo, yw |
| 20:13.55 | NickMind-XP_BOX | what is the most common web browser to use on 4.0? |
| 20:14.15 | stew | NickMind-XP_BOX: probably iceweasel (debian's version of firefox) |
| 20:14.28 | jackweb | cads: yes, grub' |
| 20:14.35 | jelly-home | eanda-sbs: both work, jelly-home: is ok |
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| 20:14.37 | jackweb | has said all was done succefully |
| 20:14.48 | eanda-sbs | jelly-home: ok putin /dev/hda in mplay and its playing now, but very skippy/stalling |
| 20:14.52 | jackweb | successfully* |
| 20:14.54 | bela | nbeebo, no this gives etw - arcade-style soccer game |
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| 20:15.04 | NickMind-XP_BOX | stew: what is the differce? |
| 20:15.09 | jelly-home | eanda-sbs: increase the buffer size, I guess |
| 20:15.12 | nbeebo | bela, lol |
| 20:15.13 | stew | NickMind-XP_BOX: between firefox and iceweasel? |
| 20:15.22 | stew | NickMind-XP_BOX: the name and the artwork |
| 20:15.23 | NickMind-XP_BOX | stew: yes |
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| 20:15.34 | stew | NickMind-XP_BOX: and iceweasel adds support for pango fonts |
| 20:15.36 | NickMind-XP_BOX | same browser |
| 20:15.41 | bela | sorry, I don't understand |
| 20:15.43 | jackweb | cads: still the same error |
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| 20:15.59 | nbeebo | ive heard iceweasel is faster., ,, ? |
| 20:16.01 | eanda-sbs | jelly-home any suggestions for cache size? |
| 20:16.04 | stew | yes, same browser, just different name and different icons |
| 20:16.10 | stew | nbeebo: no, its exactly the same |
| 20:16.11 | NickMind-XP_BOX | maybe stupid ? but can you install firefox? |
| 20:16.19 | nbeebo | oook.. |
| 20:16.21 | jelly-home | eanda-sbs: dunno, 512, 1024? (it's in KB) |
| 20:16.27 | craigevil | iceweasel=firefox |
| 20:16.28 | stew | NickMind-XP_BOX: sure |
| 20:16.47 | jelly-home | eanda-sbs: CDDA is around 150KB per second |
| 20:16.53 | stew | NickMind-XP_BOX: though installing firefox 3 on etch is not very easy, since it requires libraries not in etch, like a new gtk |
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| 20:17.05 | jelly-home | eanda-sbs: also consider lowering the cdrom speed (with hdparm or setcd) |
| 20:17.38 | eanda-sbs | jelly-home: ok put in 1500 for all three caches local stream dvd. still skipping/pausing |
| 20:17.39 | jelly-home | eanda-sbs: ... eh, nevermind that last one, I see mplayer has the speed in -cdda options |
| 20:17.45 | NickMind-XP_BOX | stew: what brower do you use?> |
| 20:17.47 | cads | sorry that didn't help, jackweb |
| 20:17.54 | stew | NickMind-XP_BOX: iceweasel and w3m |
| 20:18.00 | nbeebo | well since theres lots of pros here, how to use my audio-out as audio-in? my audiocard itself doesnt support this |
| 20:18.06 | jelly-home | eanda-sbs: I'd put that to, say, 4 or 8 |
| 20:18.18 | NickMind-XP_BOX | stew: thanks |
| 20:18.19 | eanda-sbs | what the speed? |
| 20:18.25 | jelly-home | eanda-sbs: yes |
| 20:18.40 | cads | jackweb: one thing to note is that grub seems to think you have two harddrives, so maybe your computer is booting off the wrong harddrive as master, and finding a screwed up boot sector on that one |
| 20:18.42 | bela | nbeebo, OK, but dpkg -L etw, gives Package `etw' is not installed, while daytime is running |
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| 20:19.08 | eanda-sbs | jelly-home. if i set that from the command line will that remain permanent? |
| 20:19.27 | jackweb | cads: I have two disks: Master (there was Arch on it) and Slave (Debian) |
| 20:19.41 | jelly-home | eanda-sbs: I've no idea |
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| 20:21.17 | eanda-sbs | jelly-home: how do I check if the cdrom drive is running in DMA mode |
| 20:21.33 | cads | jackweb: in the bios change the boot order of the two harddrives. doing that may make it work. doing that may also change the way grub sees your system and make the old configuration on (hd1) wrong, so you might have to reinstall. Its sounding like your first harddrive for whatever reason has become unbootable |
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| 20:21.39 | cads | oh |
| 20:21.50 | cads | jackweb: wait a sec |
| 20:22.27 | jelly-home | eanda-sbs: judging by what dmesg said, it's not. use hdparm |
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| 20:22.33 | jackweb | cads: the problem is only today |
| 20:23.07 | aib42 | where can I learn more about initramfs-tools and the initramfs generated by them? |
| 20:23.30 | jackweb | Debian had run about 4 months, before I installed Arch (today) |
| 20:23.31 | stew | aib42: what kinds of things do you want to know? |
| 20:23.32 | cads | jackweb: in the grub shell, go back and do root (hd1,0), but then type setup (hd0) |
| 20:23.34 | dkr | aib42: use the source, Luke |
| 20:24.04 | jackweb | btw. (hd0) it empty, but I can try |
| 20:24.15 | aib42 | stew: a general overview of /init and the various sub-scripts and functions it calls would be great |
| 20:24.58 | teratoma | how would i dump the contents of root's crontab to a feil ? |
| 20:25.02 | aib42 | err hold on. I'm not sure if I've already read /usr/share/doc/initramfs-tools. I should've, but can't remember |
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| 20:25.13 | jackweb | I've done it |
| 20:25.16 | stew | aib42: you could look at it yourself. if you "mkdir /tmp/initrd ; cd /tmp/initrd ; zcat /path/to/initrd | cpio -i" |
| 20:25.27 | jackweb | reboot? |
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| 20:26.28 | cads | jackweb: give it a go |
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| 20:26.49 | cads | if it works, we'll talk about why :D |
| 20:26.59 | jackweb | ;) |
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| 20:27.22 | cads | if it does't it still doesn't rule out human error, but makes it seem increasingly more like a hardware failure |
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| 20:27.43 | jackweb | I hope I'll talk to you from Debian |
| 20:27.48 | jackweb | reboots |
| 20:27.58 | aib42 | stew: yeah, I've done that. Thanks. I just realized that I don't have access to my debian box atm, so continuing would be pointless. thanks |
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| 20:29.34 | jpinx | as a matter of interest - is there a way to connect a local network by usb rather than ethernet? |
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| 20:30.37 | brian17 | is lenny significantly faster then etch? |
| 20:30.47 | brian17 | firefox+flash 9 bring my system to a crawl |
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| 20:31.15 | fd_64 | when i use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg i am never given a choice on which driver to use. I'm on lenny 64bit on my main machine, but had this problem on another machine with lenny 32bit...any way to fix the dpkg thing? |
| 20:31.37 | stew | brian17: lenny should not be significantly different in this respect |
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| 20:31.49 | stew | brian17: firefox needs tons of ram, flash just sucks |
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| 20:32.14 | brian17 | but its a better version of firefox too... |
| 20:32.18 | stew | fd_64: its not broken, its working as designed. it doesn't ask you which driver to use any longer, it auto-detects the best driver at runtime now |
| 20:32.29 | brian17 | anyway... when i run pcmanfm it complains the gtk icon theme is not properly set |
| 20:32.34 | jpinx | brian17: it's the browser that's slowing your system - I have the same issues |
| 20:32.38 | brian17 | what should i do? run xsetting manager? |
| 20:33.16 | fd_64 | brian17: I'm having the same thing with lxde. And I guess ill see about editing the thing manually. |
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| 20:35.48 | jackweb | cads: the system doesn't run :(. It is happily a joke :) there was a problem while checking the filesystem (with mount and write time - it was written 'fixed'), but after rebooting the system has happily (as I've already said) run |
| 20:36.07 | jackweb | cads: thank you very much |
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| 20:36.34 | cads | : ) |
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| 20:36.41 | cads | no problem jackweb |
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| 20:36.50 | cads | I've had grub woes myself |
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| 20:38.10 | brian17 | lol the only file manager that doesnt have an error message in repos is rox-filer |
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| 20:38.15 | jackweb | I am happy seeing again gnome-terminal with Terminus font :) |
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| 20:39.08 | Tramp | !ops Meltem_Esintisii spams onjoin |
| 20:39.09 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: tramp complains about: Meltem_Esintisii spams onjoin |
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| 20:39.35 | Tramp | tx |
| 20:39.43 | RichiH | Tramp: thanks |
| 20:39.44 | stew | Tramp: thanks for the heads-up |
| 20:39.52 | Maulkin | bah |
| 20:40.01 | Tramp | yw :) |
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| 20:40.40 | mueddib | Tramp, perfect! thanks.. |
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| 20:41.37 | craigevil | fd_64: run the Appearance or obconf to set the icons then pcmanfm doesnt complain |
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| 20:44.27 | fd_64 | craigevil: thanks |
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| 20:56.31 | cads | this is sad |
| 20:56.56 | cads | I think debian lenny uses iceweasel made from firefox 2.0 |
| 20:57.06 | dante_2core | cads, I don't think so actually |
| 20:57.09 | stew | cads: no, from 3.0.5 |
| 20:57.13 | cads | ah |
| 20:57.14 | cads | hmm |
| 20:57.14 | dante_2core | Version: 3.0.5-1 |
| 20:57.18 | cads | then that's awesome |
| 20:57.21 | stew | judd: info iceweasel --release lenny |
| 20:57.21 | dante_2core | :D |
| 20:57.22 | judd | stew: iceweasel (web): is optional; Version: 3.0.5-1; Size: 1104.9k; Installed: 3900k -- lightweight web browser based on Mozilla |
| 20:57.29 | cads | I was going to say that it's sad how much faster it goes |
| 20:57.38 | dante_2core | cads, :D |
| 20:57.48 | cads | compared to running 3.0 and 3.1 on ubuntu... this is schnappy |
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| 20:58.19 | jelly-home | lightweight? |
| 20:58.19 | stew | cads: it should be no different than running 3.0 on ubuntu. if it is, its probably due to other extensions / plugins on top of firefox |
| 20:58.20 | Tramp | cool. what's a "heavyweight web browser" in comparison? |
| 20:58.25 | stew | i didn't think 3.1 existed |
| 20:58.33 | jelly-home | Tramp: TWO firefoxen in parallel |
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| 20:58.45 | cads | stew, the beta is available |
| 20:59.03 | stew | ahh |
| 20:59.15 | cads | stew, I think I need to crack down on those extensions |
| 20:59.19 | Tramp | jelly-home: ah. or maybe 1, which you keep running for more than two days |
| 20:59.38 | jelly-home | Tramp: I heard v3 leaked less |
| 20:59.42 | stew | i regularly leave iceweasel running for weeks |
| 20:59.55 | stew | i've not seen leaks in either v2 or v3, but they both use tons of memory |
| 20:59.58 | cads | between adblock plus, firegestures, and ubiquity, my firefox startup times were in the seconds, and I had no way to profile |
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| 21:00.11 | stew | v3 uses slightly less. like it uses 500MB right at startup instead of 600MB |
| 21:00.11 | Tramp | jelly-home: yeah, well, .... |
| 21:00.19 | cads | stew, hah |
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| 21:00.59 | Tramp | that's called "pre leak" |
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| 21:01.13 | jelly-home | stew: meh, create lots of tabs and/or windows, leave running, kill almost everything, the difference I call "leaked" |
| 21:02.09 | valdyn | jelly-home: thats not how linux memory subsystem works |
| 21:02.09 | craigevil | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:02.15 | stew | jelly-home: after the first hour of use with 100 tabs or after leaving it running for a month going back and forth between a coupld of tabs and a 100 tabs, i don't see any more memory being used by the one that has been running for a month |
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| 21:03.00 | AdriNavarro | web browser? |
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| 21:04.26 | SRabbelier|Uni | I'm looking for a cpu/power manager configuration... thing... that does not require me to be running Gnome/KDE (I don't mind having them installed though), any suggestions? |
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| 21:05.11 | AdriNavarro | SRabbelier|Uni: thats really hard to find |
| 21:05.20 | AdriNavarro | SRabbelier|Uni: you mean, without UI, console only? |
| 21:05.26 | SRabbelier|Uni | AdriNavarro: oh, that's fine |
| 21:05.29 | craigevil | cpufrequtils, cpufreqd, |
| 21:05.31 | valdyn | SRabbelier|Uni: cpu - cpufrequtils |
| 21:05.31 | Fox_1_ | people how to work with static IP by knetworkmanager? |
| 21:05.35 | jelly-home | valdyn: linux memory subsystem, or the particular malloc implementation used? |
| 21:05.41 | SRabbelier|Uni | goes look at those |
| 21:05.42 | valdyn | SRabbelier|Uni: power management - what do you mean? |
| 21:05.45 | AdriNavarro | what exactly? |
| 21:05.49 | valdyn | jelly-home: linux kernel backend for malloc |
| 21:06.32 | jelly-home | valdyn: huh, so if I give back RAM with brk(), RES will still show it as mine? |
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| 21:06.42 | SRabbelier|Uni | valdyn: well, it seems lately my laptop is running too slow to play youtube etc. movies, (although I can watch some stuff with Totem just fine); I'm tyring to find out if it's my power management making my cpu run on half speed or not |
| 21:07.21 | Fox_1_ | static eth IP in networkmanager. can I configure the interfaces for networkmanager? |
| 21:07.34 | SRabbelier|Uni | Mhhh, looks like " current CPU frequency is 1000 MHz.", with " available frequency steps: 1.83 GHz, 1.33 GHz, 1000 MHz" |
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| 21:07.46 | valdyn | jelly-home: yes, thats what i read |
| 21:07.57 | AdriNavarro | cat /proc/cpuinfo ? |
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| 21:08.18 | jelly-home | valdyn: didn't know (or expect that), who can we trust then! :-) |
| 21:08.29 | Lovecraft | bind ^w next_window |
| 21:08.38 | Lovecraft | rod rammit |
| 21:08.55 | SRabbelier|Uni | AdriNavarro: well, yes, that tells me the same now that I know what's going on... now how to tell it to step up a notch |
| 21:09.02 | valdyn | jelly-home: i havent really tried it myself so uh, i dont know |
| 21:09.28 | jelly-home | can't be arsed to test it meself either |
| 21:10.01 | AdriNavarro | cpufreq? Sachant proche le résultat, tous les chefs d'états lui rendur ent visite |
| 21:10.06 | AdriNavarro | I mean xD xD xD http://technowizah.com/2007/01/debian-how-to-cpu-frequency-management.html |
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| 21:10.18 | jelly-home | I'd understand (and kinda expect) that free(3) didn't free memory |
| 21:11.11 | valdyn | SRabbelier|Uni: cpufrequtils provides console interfaces to set the frequency, or you can set it via sysfs, both naturally require the userspace governor to be used |
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| 21:11.40 | SRabbelier|Uni | valdyn: I think that is running, how do I verify it is? :) |
| 21:11.51 | valdyn | SRabbelier|Uni: what is running? |
| 21:11.59 | SRabbelier|Uni | valdyn: userspace governor |
| 21:13.08 | Lovecraft | Yeah .. it's elf |
| 21:13.24 | valdyn | SRabbelier|Uni: /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq |
| 21:13.33 | valdyn | SRabbelier|Uni: files in there should be self explanatory |
| 21:14.15 | SRabbelier|Uni | valdyn: ah, nice |
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| 21:15.28 | SRabbelier|Uni | valdyn: I assume the +w files are meant to be written to |
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| 21:17.00 | SRabbelier|Uni | valdyn: mhh, both scaling_min_freq and scaling_max_freq are set at 1Ghz, am I right in assuming that setting scaling_max_freq to 1833000 might help? |
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| 21:21.40 | adama_ | I have an http stream running, from some stupid website which I closed a while ago... how can I kill it? |
| 21:21.52 | vladi | hi, i got the linux-source for 2.6.26 and after building a kernel i get waiting for firmware on a broadcom NetXtreme network card. does debian strip the firmware from its kernel? how can i compile the firmware into my kernel? |
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| 21:22.31 | avu | adama_, kill the process owning the connection? |
| 21:22.45 | avu | adama_, if you don't know which one that is, lsof can help you |
| 21:23.01 | stew | vladi: yes, debian removes some of the firmware from the kernel. if this isthe bnx2 module you are talking about, the firmware is in the firmware-bnx2 package |
| 21:23.03 | adama_ | avu: well that's presumably Iceweasel, and I don't want to lose all my other browsers and tabs |
| 21:23.16 | avu | adama_, iceweasel can save those |
| 21:23.28 | avu | in fact, it does so by default in version 3 |
| 21:23.36 | adama_ | true |
| 21:23.54 | craigevil | adama_: its still showing up in netstat ? doesnt actually mean it is still connected |
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| 21:24.06 | vladi | stew: so if i get that package how can i build the firmware inside the kernel? |
| 21:24.16 | adama_ | avu: it worked (killall firefox-bin) |
| 21:25.12 | stew | vladi: you don't. it puts the firmware in /lib/modules so that it can be loaded on demand by the kernel |
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| 21:25.32 | adama_ | craigevil: I could see the stream using "tcpdump -ni eth0 port 8008", since the site was the only one that I had been at that used that port |
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| 21:26.00 | vladi | stew: i dont use the stock kernel / initrd i compiled my own |
| 21:26.11 | adama_ | craigevil: I do not know why there was still data flying around after I closed the browser tab |
| 21:26.20 | stew | vladi: ok |
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| 21:26.33 | x1250 | the directory /var/lib/dpkg can be recreated by purging and reinstall dpkg ? |
| 21:26.42 | abrotman | x1250: why would you do that? |
| 21:26.50 | x1250 | i hava a friend that erased it :S |
| 21:27.07 | abrotman | x1250: how exactly are you going to reinstall dpkg ? |
| 21:27.58 | x1250 | abrotman, I thought I could use debian-live and use chroot |
| 21:28.10 | SRabbelier|Uni | I tried to "cpufreq-set -u 1.833Ghz", but cpufreq-info still tells me "frequency should be within 1000 MHz and 1000 MHz." |
| 21:28.19 | abrotman | x1250: there are all kinds of files in there that need to be created |
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| 21:28.36 | etech | hi |
| 21:28.44 | x1250 | abrotman, any pointers? |
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| 21:28.54 | abrotman | x1250: cry? |
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| 21:29.08 | abrotman | you'll have to reinstall packages after you're done doing that |
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| 21:29.12 | SRabbelier|Uni | AdriNavarro: any suggestions? :) |
| 21:29.21 | x1250 | abrotman, packages like? |
| 21:29.22 | Lovecraft | x1250: beat your 'frind'. Break the 'friends' fingers. |
| 21:29.25 | etech | i used fedora, now i want to use a deb system but i want recent software, but not a too unstable system, it should be for office and multimedia |
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| 21:29.44 | etech | what can you recommand? |
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| 21:30.33 | AdriNavarro | SRabbelier|Uni: well i just came back...what? |
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| 21:30.48 | AdriNavarro | then there is some BIOS power saving option enabled? |
| 21:30.52 | AdriNavarro | check it... |
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| 21:31.20 | SRabbelier|Uni | AdriNavarro: aah, that would be possible; I think there's some but afaik it's only for when it's running on battery... hum |
| 21:31.33 | SRabbelier|Uni | goes see |
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| 21:32.15 | Athunye | Hello. Is the debian-4036 the latest stable version ? |
| 21:32.25 | zleap1 | 4036 |
| 21:32.28 | Athunye | sorry, 40r6 |
| 21:32.50 | Athunye | by the way, r means "revision" ? |
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| 21:32.59 | zleap1 | 4.0r6 |
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| 21:33.27 | zleap1 | not sure, lenny (deb 5 i think) is in development |
| 21:33.28 | abrotman | x1250: everything |
| 21:33.37 | abrotman | !tell x1250 about reinstall |
| 21:33.55 | abrotman | or use aptitude reinstall "~i" |
| 21:34.28 | x1250 | abrotman, thanks :) |
| 21:35.21 | Athunye | Well, see you after the install :) |
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| 21:36.26 | Lovecraft | Have you looked into openexchange? (sp?) |
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| 21:37.29 | forest | I am having a devil of a time installing a bootloader onto sw RAID. LILO keeps failing and it's not giving me a choice of Grub |
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| 21:37.44 | forest | I am trying to install LILO to /dev/md1 |
| 21:37.53 | forest | I also tried /dev/md/1 to no avail |
| 21:38.13 | forest | md1 is the first raid device and is on the first partition |
| 21:38.57 | forest | I am using LVM... I did a non LVM install of Debian that went fine, but LVM seems to be b0rking things up |
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| 21:39.23 | forest | I have each partition assigned as it's own volume to it's own volume group |
| 21:39.59 | forest | eg. /boot is mounted on boot-vol which is the only volume in boot-vol-group |
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| 21:41.34 | AdriNavarro | sorry, i'm not here now xD |
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| 21:42.14 | forest | AdriNavarro: apparently no one is! |
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| 21:45.35 | geophoenix | i am her |
| 21:45.36 | geophoenix | e |
| 21:45.39 | geophoenix | : ) |
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| 21:47.03 | dazjorz | hmm |
| 21:47.17 | dazjorz | I should analyze the Debian GNU/kFreeBSD port... |
| 21:47.25 | dazjorz | Is it normal for a port package to modify debian/rules? |
| 21:47.35 | abrotman | eh? |
| 21:47.39 | dazjorz | since this port seems to require a *lot* of other configuration options just to get stuff to compile |
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| 21:49.20 | azeem | dazjorz: what are you talking about |
| 21:49.33 | dazjorz | azeem: about porting Debian packages to other architectures and platforms |
| 21:49.44 | dazjorz | I'm trying to get Perl running, but it seems to require a *lot* of modifying before it even compiles |
| 21:49.47 | azeem | that's rather nebulous |
| 21:49.58 | azeem | Perl is pretty low-level, yes |
| 21:50.11 | azeem | dazjorz: what are you porting it to? |
| 21:50.11 | dazjorz | I can try to put that all in a patch, and then put this patch in the source package for this port only... |
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| 21:50.17 | dazjorz | azeem: Cygwin |
| 21:50.21 | azeem | euh |
| 21:50.25 | dazjorz | yeah. |
| 21:50.53 | azeem | anyway, I still don't understand your problem |
| 21:51.04 | dazjorz | well |
| 21:51.04 | azeem | I assume perl works on cygwin in general, noß? |
| 21:51.10 | dazjorz | I've been working on this for a few days |
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| 21:51.20 | dazjorz | I got Debian perl (from sid, including Debian patches) to compile on Cygwin, now |
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| 21:51.28 | dazjorz | but there are a lot of things that need modifying before it can compile |
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| 21:51.36 | dazjorz | i.e. debian/rules, Configure, ... |
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| 21:52.04 | dazjorz | and I'm wondering if it's normal for source packages to have a patch builtin for that port specifically |
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| 21:52.22 | SRabbelier|Uni | Well great, the guy left. Anyone see AdriNavarro tell him the bios was indeed the cause of my problems and everything is running smoothly now :). |
| 21:52.29 | azeem | are you asking whether there *any* packages in Debian with arch-specific patches? |
| 21:52.39 | azeem | and/or whether this is "normal"? |
| 21:52.43 | dazjorz | azeem: whether it's normal for a port package to have architecture-specific patches |
| 21:52.53 | azeem | what is a "port package"? |
| 21:52.55 | dazjorz | think Debian GNU/kFreeBSD |
| 21:53.01 | hachi | does anyone know what: "Patch 200_osdmenu_paths.diff does not remove cleanly (refresh it or enforce with -f)"? |
| 21:53.08 | dazjorz | The Perl package for the FreeBSD port |
| 21:53.12 | hachi | I'm trying to build the vlc packages from source, and quilt throws this error |
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| 21:53.21 | hachi | I can run the patch and back it out just fine |
| 21:53.21 | azeem | dazjorz: that'd be a binary package, it wouldn't have no patches |
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| 21:53.39 | hachi | I swear the debian builder, or quilt... must be keeping state someplace else |
| 21:53.41 | dazjorz | Does it have a seperate source file? It's logical it has its own binary .deb, but the source .deb? |
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| 21:53.50 | azeem | dazjorz: what? |
| 21:54.10 | azeem | dazjorz: are you saying you're porting Debian to a new architecture, but have no idea what a source package is? |
| 21:55.06 | dondelelcaro | hachi: it does keep track of which patches have been applied and which haven't |
| 21:55.30 | hachi | where does it keep this information? I'm blowing away the entire source directory and rebuilding it |
| 21:55.35 | hachi | at least, I could swear I am |
| 21:55.40 | azeem | .pc |
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| 21:55.53 | azeem | hachi: rm -r * doesn't remove .dotfiles |
| 21:56.29 | dazjorz | azeem: I know what a source package is, just a little confused ATM |
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| 21:56.41 | dazjorz | oh, and I don't think I have used a lot of Debian source packages |
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| 21:56.56 | hachi | thanks, I'll add that to my builder |
| 21:56.59 | dazjorz | source packages come in tgz + diff.gz + dsc, am I right? :) |
| 21:56.59 | azeem | dazjorz: so you're a cygwin hacker by trade? |
| 21:57.03 | azeem | yes |
| 21:57.03 | Agiofws | hi |
| 21:57.06 | Agiofws | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:57.21 | dazjorz | okay, let me ask the question like this then: is it normal to have architecture-specific patches in the diff? |
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| 21:57.32 | dondelelcaro | dazjorz: it's not unheard of |
| 21:57.40 | azeem | it's not normal, but it's common for low-level stuff |
| 21:57.51 | azeem | maybe check out the glibc .diff.gz for reference |
| 21:58.02 | dondelelcaro | dazjorz: properly prorted packages shouldn't require them, because the architecture specific changes should be upstream, but that doesn't mean that always happens |
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| 21:58.37 | azeem | dazjorz: in any case, the question is whether you're patching things like Configure or the build system, or some architecture-specific files |
| 21:58.48 | azeem | or patching the perl source all over the place |
| 21:58.57 | azeem | the latter would be less well received overall |
| 21:59.05 | x1250 | abrotman, I'm talking with this guy on msn, I wonder if it is necessary to purge dpkg, or just reinstall it? I said to him: sudo chroot /media/disk aptitude purge dpkg, but have it on hold |
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| 21:59.29 | dazjorz | I'm not patching real Perl source files |
| 21:59.35 | azeem | x1250: what, why remove dpkg |
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| 22:00.08 | dazjorz | I'm mostly patching debian/build because it assumes the name of the library file is "libperl.so.5.10.0" |
| 22:00.18 | azeem | well |
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| 22:00.21 | dazjorz | on Cygwin, the default filename is "cygperl5_10_0.dll", because of Windows problems |
| 22:00.30 | x1250 | azeem, someone removed /var/lib/dpkg, so I'm trying to recreate it |
| 22:00.38 | dazjorz | I think libperl.dll.5.10.0 is fine too, but I'd like to keep it as close to Cygwin as possible right now |
| 22:00.39 | azeem | dazjorz: have fun patching 100+ source packages then |
| 22:00.49 | azeem | x1250: you can't |
| 22:00.50 | dazjorz | azeem: I was afraid of that |
| 22:00.57 | x1250 | azeem, why not? |
| 22:00.59 | azeem | x1250: it's a live database of your stuff |
| 22:01.13 | x1250 | azeem, is there any backup? |
| 22:01.14 | dondelelcaro | x1250: hopefully you'll find status in /var/backups, but if not, you're kind of hosed. |
| 22:01.25 | dondelelcaro | x1250: before you do anything, make a backup of /var/backups |
| 22:01.48 | azeem | dazjorz: and be warned, I don't think many package maintainers will like patches to support .dll next to .so |
| 22:02.20 | azeem | dazjorz: even with autotools and libtool, a lot of library packages have "/usr/lib/*.so" hardcoded in debian/libfoo.install |
| 22:02.22 | dazjorz | azeem: I would be fine with calling everything .so, it's just that I don't know how Windows will react on that |
| 22:02.36 | azeem | dazjorz: so I suggest you make an archive-wide source scan and see how many .so there are. |
| 22:02.46 | x1250 | dondelelcaro, ok |
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| 22:03.21 | saimazoon | hello |
| 22:03.27 | saimazoon | I just updated to lenny from etch |
| 22:03.45 | saimazoon | and I can't see chinese or japanese text on either iceweasel or epiphany |
| 22:03.57 | saimazoon | does anybody know why this might have happened? |
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| 22:07.23 | ktwilight | saimazoon, strange, i'd check iceweasel's encoding type |
| 22:09.17 | x1250 | dondelelcaro, after copying the status file, is it necessary to purge dpkg to recreate some files inside /media/..../lib/dpkg, or just reinstalling would work? |
| 22:09.55 | x1250 | I mean inside the chroot |
| 22:09.56 | dondelelcaro | x1250: just reinstalling will work |
| 22:10.02 | x1250 | dondelelcaro, ok |
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| 22:13.01 | minerale | Using two methods for estimating disk usage I'm getting two wildly different values, df -h claims 47gb usage, #du -sh / claims 37 gb usage, how can those be reconciled? |
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| 22:15.05 | pl4yer0ne | 'morning all |
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| 22:16.08 | turkjeus | Hi guys, which package I need to install to get arial.ttf on the system? |
| 22:16.08 | dondelelcaro | minerale: they're measuring different things; du is measuring the filespace used by accessible files; df is measuring the space in use. |
| 22:16.18 | dondelelcaro | !tell turkjeus -about search |
| 22:16.56 | minerale | dondelelcaro: yes but it seems that the filesystem is using 21% of its space for metadata, is that right? |
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| 22:18.48 | sepski | minerale, more likely the difference between file size and block size. ie if you have 10 files of 1 bytes each in a fs with blocks of 1024 bytes. df would say 10K in use, and du would say 10 bytes |
| 22:19.51 | sepski | for that large a difference tho, it couls meen you have lots of small files somewhere |
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| 22:21.48 | magyar_ | hi, is there a HTML based text editor like "WordPad" in Microsoft in KDE or Gnome? |
| 22:22.16 | chemist | what is the equivalent to this in kdm? export XAUTHORITY=/var/lib/gdm/\:0.Xauth |
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| 22:22.26 | ferret_ | magyar_: not sure what you mean by html-based but there is edit, kedit, kate |
| 22:22.33 | ferret_ | *gedit not edit |
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| 22:24.46 | sladi | magyar: You mean html editor? Try Quanta+ :) |
| 22:25.25 | CyberGabber | magyar_: Screem HTML/XML Editor ? |
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| 22:27.00 | magyar_ | ferret_, to be able to change font size , bolding etc |
| 22:27.36 | fuzzymonk | Is there a way to supress/skip the dpkg-reconfigure when running apt-get? I want to script an install but it insists on opening a configure wizard thing... |
| 22:27.48 | dondelelcaro | fuzzymonk: man debconf |
| 22:28.42 | dondelelcaro | fuzzymonk: well, specifically man 7 debconf; look at DEBIAN_FRONTEND |
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| 22:29.53 | tvynr | mdadm problem: anyone have any idea how to make a drive which used to be in a RAID5 but has now somehow been labeled a spare instead of an active device for that RAID5 become active again without wiping it? I have a 4-drive RAID5 down to 2 working devices and one so-called spare which should be the third one. |
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| 22:31.44 | chemist | I am trying to get this script running in kde http://pastebin.com/d6a1b78fe |
| 22:32.15 | chemist | how do i modify line 71 to work with kdm? |
| 22:32.52 | chemist | i tried export XAUTHORITY=/var/lib/kdm/\:0.Xauth but that dont work |
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| 22:34.06 | chemist | this is the error log http://pastebin.com/m2e2c9894 |
| 22:34.23 | x1250 | dondelelcaro, last question. A status file was found in /var/backups, and copied to /var/lib/dpkg/status. Is it necessary to reinstall all packages with aptitude reinstall ~i ? or would it be unnecessay now that I have the backup available? |
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| 22:34.51 | dondelelcaro | x1250: it's strongly recommended |
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| 22:35.01 | x1250 | dondelelcaro, ok |
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| 22:41.55 | fuzzymonk | dondelelcaro: thanks |
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| 22:57.53 | saimazoon | hey |
| 22:57.57 | saimazoon | this is so fucking ridiculous |
| 22:58.06 | saimazoon | chinese, korean and japanese text used to show perfectly in etch |
| 22:58.10 | saimazoon | then I upgrade to lenny |
| 22:58.21 | saimazoon | and they suddenly don't show any more |
| 22:58.51 | Hydroxide | saimazoon: sounds like something got removed or a bug got introduced. if you want to try to solve the problem, we can help narrow it down. |
| 22:59.16 | saimazoon | ok |
| 22:59.20 | saimazoon | i dont know where to start |
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| 23:02.14 | Hydroxide | saimazoon: which languages do you want to fix? |
| 23:02.26 | saimazoon | korean, japanese anad chinese |
| 23:02.35 | Hydroxide | which kind of chinese? simplified/traditional/both |
| 23:03.17 | Hydroxide | saimazoon: and do you use gnome/kde/both/neither? |
| 23:03.48 | saimazoon | gnome |
| 23:04.47 | dkr | hrm, yeah ko.wikipedia not displaying properly for me, either |
| 23:04.49 | Hydroxide | saimazoon: try, as root: aptitude install "~t chinese-s|chinese-t|japanese|korean" |
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| 23:05.35 | saimazoon | ok |
| 23:05.51 | Hydroxide | saimazoon: and then log out and log back in. |
| 23:06.05 | Hydroxide | saimazoon: (that step might not be necessary) |
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| 23:06.38 | MarcWeber | Which package contains swapon? |
| 23:06.50 | Hydroxide | MarcWeber: mount |
| 23:07.19 | dkr | dpkg -S `which swapon` |
| 23:07.20 | dpkg | Package: `which swapon`: Status: install ok installed |
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| 23:08.27 | dkr | Hydroxide: that installs all packages with those words in the description rather than the package name? unclear on ~t |
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| 23:08.41 | Hydroxide | dkr: no, it installs stuff with a Task: header matching one of those |
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| 23:08.43 | streuner | !find /bin/swapon |
| 23:08.50 | Hydroxide | dkr: (in the debian/control file) |
| 23:08.59 | Hydroxide | dkr: and in the Packages file |
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| 23:09.19 | dkr | Hydroxide: ah, that explains why my search results using that filter looked odd. thanks |
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| 23:11.39 | bmoll8 | I had a question about tcpdump. It is capable of picking up passwords, headers, and other text information that is sent in the clear. What about video data? It will pick up the packets, but are they easily decrypted? |
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| 23:12.33 | zachtib | i've got a question on Live-helper... I'm using it to build a bootable etch environment, and it runs fine in qemu, but I think the version of syslinux is too old for it to boot from a USB stick... I downloaded the syslinux package from lenny and put it in the right directory, but it didn't get installed... |
| 23:12.49 | zachtib | can someone help me figure out how to get a newer syslinux in there? |
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| 23:13.57 | dkr | bmoll8: yes, no |
| 23:14.37 | dkr | bmoll8: you might find tshark more useful |
| 23:14.56 | dkr | or wireshark itself if you want a nice gui |
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| 23:15.46 | dkr | with wireshark I was even able to see the html content of https requests to my server. :) |
| 23:16.15 | MarcWeber | dkr, Hydroxide Thanks. The system didn't have swapon. So I don't thingk dpkg -S would have helped much. Anyway problem solved |
| 23:16.46 | saimazoon | Hydroxide |
| 23:16.53 | saimazoon | the fonts downloaded |
| 23:17.03 | saimazoon | I can see the chracters using gnome character map viewer |
| 23:17.10 | saimazoon | but I cannot read them from ephyphany or iceweasel |
| 23:17.19 | saimazoon | i think the problem lies in the browsers |
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| 23:17.32 | dkr | did you get the iceweasel-l10n-ko package? |
| 23:17.39 | dkr | and -ja -cn etc |
| 23:17.54 | Hydroxide | dkr: ah, apparently my search didn't pull everything in |
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| 23:18.28 | dkr | it did list those |
| 23:19.02 | Hydroxide | jimmy@jkaplowitz:~$ aptitude search "~t chinese-s|chinese-t|japanese|korean " | grep iceweasel |
| 23:19.06 | Hydroxide | p iceweasel-l10n-zh-cn - Chinese (China) language package for Icewe |
| 23:19.08 | Hydroxide | that's all it shows for me on a lenny system |
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| 23:19.17 | dkr | but there seems somethign different about it the iceweasel language packs. didn't work for me either, even though it now says it has the korean lang pack |
| 23:20.26 | Hydroxide | saimazoon: try this as root: aptitude install "~t chinese-s|chinese-t|japanese|korean|chinese-s-desktop|chinese-t-desktop|korean-desktop|japanese-desktop|japanese-gnome-desktop|korean-gnome-desktop" |
| 23:20.36 | Hydroxide | grr, that still doesn't include it |
| 23:20.38 | dkr | Hydroxide: same result here. but I did korean by itself |
| 23:20.40 | dkr | aptitude search "~t korean" | grep iceweasel |
| 23:20.40 | dkr | i iceweasel-l10n-ko |
| 23:20.48 | dkr | somethign wrong with your | syntax I guess |
| 23:20.49 | Hydroxide | oh wow |
| 23:20.53 | Hydroxide | yeah my syntax must be wrong |
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| 23:21.36 | Hydroxide | saimazoon: much better: try as root: aptitude install "~t chinese-s|~t chinese-t|~t japanese|~tkorean" |
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| 23:22.37 | stoned | !ping |
| 23:22.38 | dpkg | pong |
| 23:22.52 | Hydroxide | saimazoon: if you also want gnome-specific stuff, do this instead: aptitude install "~t chinese-s|~t chinese-t|~t japanese|~tkorean|~tjapanese-gnome-desktop|~tkorean-gnome-desktop" |
| 23:24.38 | Hydroxide | heads out. Good luck saimazoon. |
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| 23:29.39 | tvynr | anyone know how to mount an ext3 filesystem read-only using an alternate superblock? |
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| 23:30.27 | cads | will installing the kde libraries slow my system in general? |
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| 23:31.45 | Tramp | tvynr: man mount, search for "sb="? |
| 23:31.48 | cads | there are tiny tiny number of kde programs which I like to use, for example the regular expression editor and the drop console yakuake (really the killer app for me and the extent of my needs for kde) |
| 23:32.12 | Tramp | tvynr: (not that I ever did it. and read-only is -o ro) |
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| 23:32.24 | tvynr | Tramp: Ah, sorry. Kind of frazzled. Dealing with a 2Tb RAID5 that's down and teetering. |
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| 23:32.28 | cads | but I don't want to install them for worry of my system slowing down like boobuntu did |
| 23:32.29 | tvynr | Tramp: Thanks :) |
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| 23:33.16 | llimeht | cads: only if your machine is really starved of physical ram are you likely to notice a difference. |
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| 23:37.52 | stoned | zapeda |
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| 23:38.01 | stoned | oops |
| 23:38.01 | frog_ | how can i ommit binaries while creating patch? |
| 23:38.48 | x1250 | dondelelcaro, it worked, it is restored, thanks for your help. The guy is reinstalling ~i now |
| 23:38.58 | dondelelcaro | x1250: np |
| 23:39.09 | dondelelcaro | x1250: I'd suggest also fixing your backup policy |
| 23:39.09 | pl4yer0ne | cads: why not try tilda? its gtk I think |
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| 23:39.52 | stoned | cads, what are your system specs? |
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| 23:40.43 | stoned | cads, as an avid KDE user I can assure you that on any modern system KDE is not bloatware, its negative propaganda. You should also realize that kde apps are not standalone apps and depend on the rest of the KDE libs, and KDE is a full desktop solution, not a window manager of a collection of standalone applications |
| 23:41.18 | stoned | cads, keeping this under considration, a Pentium 4 machine with 512 MB ram can simultaneously run KDE AND Gnome applications without any problem. |
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| 23:46.27 | stoned | !ping |
| 23:46.28 | dpkg | pong |
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| 23:46.42 | stoned | cads, what is yakuake? |
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| 23:46.53 | stoned | drop console? |
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| 23:47.07 | pl4yer0ne | stoned: yep |
| 23:47.13 | frog_ | i mean how can i skip binaries while diffing directories? |
| 23:47.30 | stoned | so the drop downiness is cooler? |
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| 23:47.34 | stoned | loves konsole |
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| 23:47.56 | llimeht | !wayttd frog_ |
| 23:47.57 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, frog_? |
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| 23:48.25 | pl4yer0ne | stoned: personally I think its arse but each to their own. I like terminator with its multi-paned goodness |
| 23:49.33 | stoned | frog_, you'd have to run diff -r to recurse obviously, but you'd have to pipe something using grep, perhaps sort, maybe even file, and a considition on file return type ? |
| 23:50.17 | frog_ | llimeht: i wanna run this command diff -rupN /dir1 /dir2 > original.patch. there are binaries in dir2. and i don't wanna apply them in |
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| 23:51.02 | stoned | sounds like you need to script it if you want it to be based on filetype, if you wish to exclude a binary type file, you can pipe it through file, and then pipe it through grep to exclue all lines containing executable or some other |
| 23:51.06 | frog_ | in original.patch |
| 23:51.24 | stoned | if you want to drop ALL binary files thats tough I think, becuase there are many types of binary files not just executables |
| 23:51.28 | stoned | manf ile |
| 23:51.31 | stoned | `man file` |
| 23:51.32 | frog_ | i don't wanna execute anything |
| 23:51.45 | stoned | 06:47 < frog_> i mean how can i skip binaries while diffing directories? |
| 23:51.52 | frog_ | i only wanna diff text |
| 23:51.56 | llimeht | frog_: diff would normally only note that the file had changed. Can you specify an exclude pattern? |
| 23:52.12 | stoned | if they don't have a file extension you'd have to grep/sort/file |
| 23:52.13 | |unjustice| | Hi, I just used a Debian Lenny net install on a new 64 bit machine... |
| 23:52.16 | stoned | one of those 3 |
| 23:52.19 | stoned | or a combination even |
| 23:52.24 | |unjustice| | and I can now get KDE to load, but it is SUPER slow |
| 23:52.31 | frog_ | llimeht: i wanna run this command diff -rupN /dir1 /dir2 > original.patch. |
| 23:52.42 | x1250 | dondelelcaro, whats wrong with this package? What does the H means? ---> H sun-java5-jre - Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0 |
| 23:52.44 | stoned | if it had file extensions it would be easy to feed pipe that from grep/sort/ls to diff |
| 23:52.57 | x1250 | dondelelcaro, when trying so reinstall ~i, ocurrs: E: I wasn't able to locate a file for the sun-java5-jre package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package. (due to missing arch) |
| 23:53.00 | cads | stoned, yakuake is fucking brilliant, drop console extraordinaire, you can even split it into subconsoles vertically and horizontally |
| 23:53.01 | stoned | frog_, do you understand what I'm talking about, at all? |
| 23:53.02 | x1250 | how can this be fixed? |
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| 23:53.19 | stoned | cads, I wonder if it works on Xming |
| 23:53.20 | stoned | ! |
| 23:53.39 | stoned | whoah its only a few hundred kb |
| 23:53.40 | cads | it's not useful to have 10 nested fractal consoles but it's pretty |
| 23:54.12 | cads | can't find another quake style console that lets me split the console (as opposed to creating tabs) |
| 23:54.12 | stoned | hey it works beautifuly in Xming |
| 23:54.14 | stoned | :) |
| 23:54.21 | frog_ | stoned: i guess i do, but i guess there must be any easy way to reach it |
| 23:54.22 | cads | sweet |
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| 23:54.23 | stoned | the animations is choppy |
| 23:54.34 | cads | but the transparency is brilliant |
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| 23:54.37 | stoned | frog_, if there is I don't know of it |
| 23:54.41 | frog_ | stoned: and you understand what i am trying to? |
| 23:54.47 | stoned | frog_, diff has no way of knowing the file type |
| 23:54.47 | cads | I think I'll go ahead and install it and fuck the kde libs |
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| 23:55.20 | llimeht | frog_: do the files you want to exclude have an extension? (e.g. .o) |
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| 23:55.32 | stoned | frog_, you can't make diff skip binary files using just itself, I think you have to feed diff only non binary files, and to detect what a file type is, you use the file utiltiy |
| 23:55.39 | stoned | llimeht, I asked him that already |
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| 23:55.44 | frog_ | llimeht: i guess, but dunno if all of them |
| 23:55.44 | pl4yer0ne | cads: have you tried tilda? its a similar program but I dont know if it is as full featured. |
| 23:55.49 | llimeht | stoned: I know. so did I. |
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| 23:56.05 | frog_ | hm, but maybe i could diff only .c and .h |
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| 23:56.21 | cads | pl4yer0ne: if you're a drop down console user in gtk, you should check out guake |
| 23:56.30 | cads | it's like tilda and yakuake had babies |
| 23:56.31 | frog_ | yeah, that would be the idea. thax stoned llimeht |
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| 23:56.37 | stoned | hey how do you make the console go back up? |
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| 23:56.43 | |unjustice| | anybody know why KDE would run so incredibly slowly off of Debian Lenny? Is there some sort of package I need to get? |
| 23:56.49 | |unjustice| | It takes like 10 minutes |
| 23:56.51 | llimeht | frog_: diff can accept an exclude pattern |
| 23:57.05 | pl4yer0ne | cads: No I dont need drop down I thought -you- wanted a gtk drop down rather than KDE |
| 23:57.06 | cads | stoned, there is an option to make it go back up when it loses focus, or you can press f12 |
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| 23:57.14 | stoned | |unjustice|, whats your cpu and how much RAM do you have? |
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| 23:57.21 | NickMind-XP_BOX | . |
| 23:57.26 | frog_ | llimeht: well it is compiled version of uclinux |
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| 23:57.48 | |unjustice| | stoned: AMD Athlon 64 bit quad core processor, 4g of RAM |
| 23:57.51 | stoned | |unjustice|, 2ndly, what all do you have runinng in KDE, besides KDE? Can you check top/htop? Can you check free -m ? |
| 23:57.53 | cads | pl4yer0ne: but yes, I'm familiar with tilda, and thank you for your suggestion |
| 23:57.55 | frog_ | llimeht: vs uncompiled version |
| 23:58.12 | |unjustice| | stoned: I installed iceweasel |
| 23:58.25 | llimeht | frog_: copying the entire tree then make clean then diff might be easier. |
| 23:58.26 | |unjustice| | stoned: other than that...should be default, lemme check |
| 23:58.32 | *** join/#debian Mimi (n=ubuntuzo@cpe-72-224-194-177.maine.res.rr.com) |
| 23:58.44 | stoned | argh I have to click on kicker/konsole first and then hit F12 and it works |
| 23:58.52 | stoned | it doesn't work from the Windows XP desktop |
| 23:58.53 | stoned | :) |
| 23:59.02 | llimeht | |unjustice|: I run KDE lenny on machines that are much more modest than that. |
| 23:59.13 | frog_ | llimeht: ok , thank you |
| 23:59.17 | jas4711 | i have a i386 etch system on a amd opteron and have upgraded to lenny. which kernel package should i use? is linux-image-amd64 the best, or do i need ia32-libs or similar? |
| 23:59.18 | |unjustice| | llimeht: most people do, trying to build an audio/video powerhouse |
| 23:59.33 | |unjustice| | I just installed |
| 23:59.42 | |unjustice| | I have no apps set to run except defaults |