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| 00:01.06 | magikfingerz_ | alsd, I create a new var directory in XFS partition, and then, inside my original /var directory I type: cp -ax * /media/datadisk/var |
| 00:01.31 | magikfingerz_ | alsd, the /media/datadisk is my XFS partition |
| 00:02.13 | alsd | magikfingerz_: what does ls -ld /var/cups say? |
| 00:03.16 | magikfingerz_ | it says: drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 6 2009-01-31 10:58 /media/datos/var/run/cups |
| 00:03.38 | magikfingerz_ | alsd, it seems that only root has access. |
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| 00:04.26 | magikfingerz_ | alsd, and my original /var says: drwxr-xr-x 3 root lp 120 2009-01-31 11:28 /var/run/cups |
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| 00:06.26 | myeggo | hi |
| 00:06.46 | myeggo | in gnome do need i compiz-fusion, or it is integrated as in kde? |
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| 00:07.39 | alsd | magikfingerz_: that's strange. cp -a should keep permissions and owner |
| 00:07.55 | alsd | magikfingerz_: check if there are similar differences |
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| 00:08.18 | ricosecada | Why does the SOX version for Debian testing not support OGG? |
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| 00:14.43 | kingsley | What's the easiest way to share one computer's audio with another? |
| 00:15.10 | petemc | esd can do that |
| 00:15.10 | ricosecada | kingsley, NFS if security isn't an issue |
| 00:15.49 | ricosecada | kingsley, sorry misunderstood |
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| 00:16.58 | kingsley | petemc: Do you happen to know how easy esd is to use? |
| 00:17.14 | petemc | fairly |
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| 00:18.28 | kingsley | petemc: Can you elaborate? |
| 00:18.28 | petemc | most people i think use mpd |
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| 00:20.33 | petemc | kingsley: http://taint.org/2008/02/03/222043a.html |
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| 00:23.18 | petemc | kingsley: jmason is the chap that wrote spamassassin, i get some tips from him on using esd years ago, thats his updated advice |
| 00:23.42 | magikfingerz | alsd, I'm back... I restore my previous /tmp and /var and everything goes ok again... I use the command mount and maybe I know why the problem is... I see this mountpoit: varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=0755) |
| 00:24.11 | magikfingerz | alsd, ans this too: varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777) |
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| 00:24.32 | magikfingerz | alsd, but, they aren't in my fstab... where they can be...? |
| 00:24.34 | martianlobster | what do I need to apt-get install to get x-window-manager? |
| 00:25.26 | abrotman | martianlobster: which one do you want ? |
| 00:25.26 | alsd | magikfingerz: in some magic shell script in /etc/init.d/ i guess |
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| 00:26.01 | alsd | magikfingerz: but that doesn't matter much as long as you have /var rightly set up at boot time |
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| 00:26.08 | martianlobster | abrotman: I am new to x-windows. would fluxbox be a type of x-window-manager? I am not sure I know what an x-window-manager is. I thought it was a specific executable, as opposed to a class of executables. |
| 00:26.23 | abrotman | yes it would .. aptitude install xdm fluxbox xorg |
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| 00:26.30 | petemc | debian:/home/pete# readlink -f /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager |
| 00:26.30 | petemc | /usr/bin/metacity |
| 00:26.30 | martianlobster | abrotman: thank you |
| 00:26.47 | magikfingerz | alsd, and what if I simply addit to my fstab...? |
| 00:28.24 | magikfingerz | alsd, maybe I still wil see the message, but al least, the cups problem can goes off... I will try it hehe... if something goes wrong, I always have a backup... |
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| 00:28.40 | alsd | magikfingerz: that's not a good idea to add it to fstab |
| 00:28.53 | magikfingerz | alsd, Mmhh... so...? |
| 00:29.42 | alsd | magikfingerz: if you have your /var elsewhere, say /elsewhere/var that is symlinked to /var, that shouldn't make any difference |
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| 00:30.13 | alsd | magikfingerz: so if for any reason a boot script mounts /var/run and /var/lock they can as well do that as usual |
| 00:30.41 | alsd | magikfingerz: but i still wonder what sort of script does that |
| 00:30.50 | dutchfish | i have tried to install, software raid and didnt get to manage to install grub along in any way, after a long search i am somehow doubting that grub can deal with software raid. Is it? (I am using lenny 32 bit latest on this machine trying to install raid 5 with 3 disks, with 1 straight setup for / and 1 separate raid partition for swap) any help welcome. |
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| 00:31.37 | KDE4000 | anyone know of a backport of python-2.5 for etch? |
| 00:31.57 | themill | KDE4000: aptitude install python2.5 |
| 00:31.58 | magikfingerz | alsd, and, do you know if there is any problem if I have XFS instead of Ext3...? the mouted /var/lock and /var/run claims thei're using tmpfs |
| 00:32.11 | alsd | dutchfish: grub doesn't deal with RAID afaik |
| 00:32.14 | themill | KDE4000: (no backport required... it's already in etch) |
| 00:32.27 | StatusQuote | shame python 3.0 wasn't released soon enough to make it into lenny. |
| 00:32.29 | Vasistha | I'm trying to get ipmasq working for NAT, so that I can share my laptop's wireless internet connection with a wired desktop. Here's /etc/network/interfaces for the two machines: http://paste.debian.net/27354/ |
| 00:32.51 | dutchfish | alsd, how to make a workaround? lilo? making a separate /boot partition on every single diesk? howto? |
| 00:32.53 | alsd | magikfingerz: that's ok, as both are temporary in nature. |
| 00:33.24 | alsd | dutchfish: i never used RAID but i've been told you should have a separate /boot partition in this case |
| 00:33.36 | magikfingerz | alsd, ok... thanks a lot... I will try again ... :) |
| 00:33.54 | dutchfish | alsd, so 1 /boot on first disk and blanc on others in the same scope? |
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| 00:34.44 | alsd | dutchfish: i guess so, /boot doesnt have to be huge anyway |
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| 00:35.19 | alsd | dutchfish: just enough for a kernel and grub, say 100MB. maybe a bit more if you want other OSs sharing /boot |
| 00:35.46 | dutchfish | alsd, sure, but also had to do it manually, the lenny beta installer does let me do this withot any warning, next: the installer cant remove the last dm0 partition if you have create and removed a second one |
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| 00:36.15 | dutchfish | alsd, so 1G would more then enough |
| 00:36.27 | KDE4000 | thanks, got it all working now ;) |
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| 00:36.54 | dutchfish | alsd, do you know if grub2 can deal with this? |
| 00:37.33 | dutchfish | alsd, thanks for all the info btw! |
| 00:37.51 | alsd | dutchfish: i dont know about grub2, nor RAID sorry |
| 00:38.56 | dutchfish | alsd, no worry |
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| 00:41.05 | rgr | can anyone suggest why an ssh connection to a lan machine takes about 5 seconds? passwords/authotrized_keys are fine. I can log in. It just takes an age sometimes. |
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| 00:41.44 | alsd | rgr: maybe a problem with name resolution on the server |
| 00:41.45 | dutchfish | rgr, prolly /etc/resolv.conf not setup correclty or wrong dns-ing |
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| 00:47.01 | yassine | hi everyone |
| 00:47.18 | frog_ | is there no possibility in firestarter to enable an informaton (in events) about what program has generated/sent the packet? |
| 00:47.23 | yassine | anyone of you guys can access the news link in this page http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ ? |
| 00:47.48 | yassine | i get a 404 when i try to click [31 Jan 2009] Debian Installer lenny release candidate 2 |
| 00:47.50 | petemc | yassine: no |
| 00:48.08 | petemc | same |
| 00:48.20 | yassine | petemc, and im not able to download the iso image for my architecture |
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| 00:48.24 | yassine | amd64 :( |
| 00:48.38 | petemc | yassine: try another mirror |
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| 00:49.08 | zythmer | yassine: The URL is wrong. It should be /2009/. If you swap 2008 out, it works. |
| 00:49.32 | petemc | good catch |
| 00:49.34 | yassine | zythmer, ahh someone who looks where he clicks :) |
| 00:49.55 | yassine | zythmer, thanks i gues that was a copy and past thing :) |
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| 00:50.30 | yassine | even the announcement is access able now |
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| 00:52.15 | johntramp | hey can i have apt-get use aria2 instead of wget for downloading packages? |
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| 00:55.44 | alsd | johntramp: apt-get doesn't use either |
| 00:56.29 | yassine | hey guys i want to install debian and use it as host system (using xen) would you suggest to use the bundled package by debian maintainers or going for xen sources? |
| 00:57.22 | petemc | yassine: lenny is a very usable xen dom0 with the debian packages |
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| 00:59.42 | yassine | petemc, is 4.0-r6 lenny or is still an etch? |
| 01:00.02 | petemc | yassine: lenny is 5 |
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| 01:00.14 | yassine | mhh |
| 01:00.36 | StatusQuote | yassine: if you want good integration with debian, the package is usually the way to go. if you want support from the upstream source, that's the way to go. |
| 01:01.02 | StatusQuote | imho |
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| 01:01.07 | yassine | StatusQuote, the first option is my case |
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| 01:02.10 | yassine | petemc, as i see there is no iso now available for lenny ? |
| 01:02.21 | petemc | yassine: there should be |
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| 01:03.18 | yassine | petemc, please point me to the right place im here now http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 01:04.52 | StatusQuote | yassine: start here and read to see what conditions apply to you: http://www.debian.org/CD/ |
| 01:04.58 | petemc | yassine: remove the filename from that url |
| 01:05.04 | petemc | erm |
| 01:05.05 | petemc | http://ftp.acc.umu.se/cdimage/lenny_di_rc2/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 01:05.10 | petemc | for example |
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| 01:05.59 | StatusQuote | yassine: lenny is the current "testing" distribution, btw. you'll see it listed as that |
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| 01:06.51 | yassine | StatusQuote, ah so its an option of the one available in the installer ? |
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| 01:07.21 | PiousMinion | Anyone know why "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" wouldn't ask me anything about my hardware in lenny? |
| 01:07.55 | petemc | PiousMinion: lenny use newer xorg that does autodetection via xranr |
| 01:08.01 | petemc | xrandr |
| 01:08.41 | PiousMinion | petemc: right, but it's not doing it correctly so I I'm trying to configure the old way as I've done in the past. Know how I can do this? |
| 01:08.43 | StatusQuote | yassine: lenny can be gotten two ways. one is by installing "testing" and the other is by installing etch and then upgrading. the latter is more difficult but useful if you already have some stuff on your system that you want to keep |
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| 01:09.07 | StatusQuote | although in that case you should backup your files before you upgrade |
| 01:09.25 | Alex-Musicman | hello, have some easy way to install GTK 2.10 or higher on debian etch?? |
| 01:09.30 | yassine | StatusQuote, this is fresh install so i think i will select lenny from the beginning |
| 01:09.45 | StatusQuote | yassine: yeah, that sounds right for you. |
| 01:09.47 | petemc | PiousMinion: create a xorg.conf with X -configure, edit to suit |
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| 01:10.00 | PiousMinion | petemc: ahh, thanks |
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| 01:11.46 | johntramp | alsd: is there a way to speed up apt-get then, have it download from multiple sources etc? |
| 01:13.11 | petemc | apt-spy |
| 01:13.16 | alsd | johntramp: it already does that when you have multiple sources to download from |
| 01:13.27 | abrotman | not quite |
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| 01:14.48 | johntramp | ill see if apt-spy makes a difference |
| 01:15.25 | Alex-Musicman | hello, have some easy way to install GTK 2.10 or higher on debian etch?? |
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| 01:16.14 | abrotman | not easily |
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| 01:17.31 | Alex-Musicman | :S |
| 01:17.51 | alsd | abrotman: well i guess we don't mean the same in 'multiple sources', but if you have, say, something from main and something from security to download, they get downloaded in parallel. that's what i mean |
| 01:18.04 | Alex-Musicman | not have some tutorial around there? |
| 01:18.17 | abrotman | alsd: that's not what he's asking for |
| 01:18.23 | abrotman | Alex-Musicman: you'd have to compile it yourself |
| 01:18.32 | abrotman | doesn't get the FF3 fascination |
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| 01:19.05 | Alex-Musicman | yes but dependence about dependence... |
| 01:19.10 | johntramp | aria2 will split the file being downloaded into parts and then download them suimultaneously |
| 01:19.26 | johntramp | can easily max out connection speed but apt-get at the moment is slow |
| 01:19.53 | stoned | whats ff3 |
| 01:19.57 | stoned | !ff3 |
| 01:20.05 | alsd | stoned: firefox 3 i guess |
| 01:21.12 | stoned | oh yeah right, there is still a firefox2 |
| 01:21.12 | stoned | I just thought firefox is firefox, current version but yeh, ff3 |
| 01:21.48 | stoned | fantastic, debian.exe resutls in something called hal.dll missing, I wonder if they did something to xp in sp3 |
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| 01:22.02 | alsd | johntramp: try with apt-spy then. the method you describe puts too much load on servers, i've been told |
| 01:22.15 | stoned | but I can still boot xp, but debian.exe won't let it boot, and its the strangest grub I've ever seen, there is no menu.lst, there is a grub.conf? |
| 01:22.18 | stoned | wtf |
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| 01:23.03 | stoned | debian.exe used to install a diff oh... I think debian.exe uses grub2 now? |
| 01:23.05 | stoned | but why |
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| 01:25.11 | stoned | !ping |
| 01:25.11 | dpkg | pong |
| 01:25.33 | SPF | how do I open a manual page inside a .gz file? man foo.gz does not work |
| 01:25.53 | stoned | zless blah.gz ? |
| 01:26.43 | d-b | SPF: gunzip to less ? |
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| 01:27.07 | SPF | it is readable, but there are a lot of weird 'manual' characters present |
| 01:27.08 | dmoerner | SPF: zcat foo.gz | nroff -man | less |
| 01:27.39 | SPF | dmoerner: thanks, that works |
| 01:27.55 | stoned | ahh, groff nroff |
| 01:28.06 | stoned | document formatting something, weird cryptic unix shizboo |
| 01:28.43 | StatusQuote | no weirder than C's preprocessor |
| 01:28.56 | stoned | I'm a noob so I dunno much at all |
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| 01:29.21 | StatusQuote | stoned: i find that the more i learn, the less i know too. :) |
| 01:29.23 | alsd | stoned: groff is GNU's nroff |
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| 01:30.47 | stoned | it feels like my eyes are burning up |
| 01:30.56 | stoned | I think brightness is too high |
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| 01:32.36 | stoned | oh I'm using the wrong terminal, my text is bright white, instead of the color pallete I use which is light grey |
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| 01:33.49 | StatusQuote | thinks I can model that cliche rigorously: I learn more as I grow older, but the stuff I care about knowing grows too, and faster than what I know |
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| 01:38.30 | Vasistha | the ip masquerading howto is written for 2.4 and older kernels :P dag-nab-it I'm still stuck on this thing. I thought ipmasq would "just work" but it just doesn't, and I can't seem to find any kind of guides anywhere. |
| 01:39.38 | petemc | Vasistha: ipmasq often does just work, is your setup more than 2 ethernet cards, one with a connection to the internet and one to a lan ? |
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| 01:40.48 | Vasistha | petemc: no -- it's a simple setup, one wireless card connected to the internet, and one wired card connected to a switch, and I've got a desktop that is also connected to that switch. I've got a pastebin around here somewhere with my /etc/network/interfaces ... |
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| 01:41.00 | StatusQuote | ok, this may sound stupid, but what is "ip masquerading" and why would you want to do it? |
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| 01:41.18 | valdyn | StatusQuote: thats internet connection sharing |
| 01:41.22 | Vasistha | petemc: http://paste.debian.net/27354/ |
| 01:41.27 | StatusQuote | valdyn: oh |
| 01:41.46 | StatusQuote | valdyn: like NAT? |
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| 01:42.01 | Guerin | StatusQuote: not like NAT, it is NAT |
| 01:42.25 | valdyn | StatusQuote: its a specific nat setup |
| 01:42.26 | newsense | ipmasq |
| 01:42.33 | StatusQuote | oh |
| 01:42.41 | StatusQuote | silly me :/ |
| 01:43.48 | newsense | in linux its ip masquerade |
| 01:44.46 | valdyn | Vasistha: ipmasq alone cant fix the gateway / route on the "client" |
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| 01:45.55 | Vasistha | valdyn: ahha, so even without ipmasq I ought to be able to get the laptop and desktop talking to each other? |
| 01:45.56 | valdyn | Vasistha: you have 3 gateways to 0.0.0.0, aka the internet, thats nonsense |
| 01:46.22 | valdyn | Vasistha: yes, sure |
| 01:47.01 | valdyn | Vasistha: and you are setting eth0 twice, thats nonsense too |
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| 01:47.11 | valdyn | Vasistha: oh, nm |
| 01:47.12 | Vasistha | valdyn: one of those is for the laptop, one is for the desktop |
| 01:47.28 | valdyn | Vasistha: the gateway on the desktop should be 1.33 |
| 01:48.08 | valdyn | Vasistha: the 1.33 gateway setting on eth0 on the latop is nonsense |
| 01:48.47 | valdyn | Vasistha: the 1.x suffixes on ath0 ASWELL as eth0 make your network not routable |
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| 01:49.22 | Vasistha | valdyn: alright ... so the desktop is easy enough, but how shall I set up eth0 on the laptop? that one's the big mystery to me |
| 01:49.28 | valdyn | Vasistha: to keep this simple make the desktop and the eth0 on latop have suffixes from like 2.x |
| 01:51.03 | Vasistha | valdyn: ah, okay; does that mean I'll need to change the netmask on one or both to be 255.255.254.0 ? |
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| 01:51.03 | valdyn | Vasistha: leave the netmasks alone |
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| 01:53.05 | Vasistha | valdyn: so I have desktop address 2.77 and gateway 1.33; I guess laptop eth0 needs to have address 2.anything and gateway ... I don't know |
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| 01:53.44 | valdyn | Vasistha: no gateway at all on eth0 laptop, but gateway 192.168.1.33 on the desktop |
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| 01:55.32 | valdyn | I guess this is a case where avahi networking automagic could be neat, but i dont know much at all about it |
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| 01:56.08 | frog_ | where in /proc/pid can i find the info about port? |
| 01:56.27 | Vasistha | valdyn: oh how interesting, didn't realize I could do it without a gateway. so now the laptop's eth0 is actually willing to come up, but the desktop's eth0 is still giving me SIOCADDRT: No such process; Failed to bring up eth0. It has address 2.77, mask 255.0, gateway 1.33 |
| 01:57.48 | valdyn | Vasistha: ifconfig -a lists eth0? |
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| 01:58.21 | Vasistha | valdyn: yes; if I switch it to dhcp, no such error |
| 01:59.05 | valdyn | Vasistha: the gateway on the desktop needs to be within its network,so the 2.x address of eth0 on the laptop |
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| 02:00.44 | Vasistha | valdyn: alright, that makes sense; I guess that's why I was asking about changing netmask to 254 or some such. Anyway, I can now ping laptop's eth0 2.222 and ath0 1.33, but I haven't gotten to the router at 1.254 yet, which I guess is where ipmasq steps in |
| 02:01.08 | valdyn | Vasistha: no it should not |
| 02:01.30 | valdyn | Vasistha: but you should "dpkg-reconfigure ipmasq" anyway |
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| 02:02.17 | valdyn | Vasistha: i dont see why you should need ipmasq at all, you router should already do this |
| 02:02.42 | valdyn | Vasistha: but it should not hurt either, its just likely configured wrongly atm |
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| 02:03.21 | Vasistha | valdyn: hmmmm ... well, dpkg-reconfigure ipmasq got the desktop online! So I guess the next step is to try removing ipmasq and see if it still works :) Thanks very much, this is fantastic |
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| 02:11.04 | Vasistha | well, when I purge ipmasq, the desktop loses its connection; when I reinstall ipmasq, the desktop gets its connection back. Of course this is a simple-minded viewpoint, but ... I'm inclined to keep it, and further procrastinate learning anything about iptables! Thanks again! |
| 02:11.51 | heffay | i cant figure out what wrong with my xorg.conf. in the log my monitor is being identified correctly but when i try to log in to gdm the screen goes out of range |
| 02:12.41 | Vasistha | heffay: why don't you pastebin your xorg.conf |
| 02:12.57 | Vasistha | heffay: and the log as well :) |
| 02:13.14 | heffay | im not sure how to do that from the console |
| 02:13.49 | Vasistha | heffay: well you could use a console www browser like lynx |
| 02:14.04 | heffay | how do i cut and paste though |
| 02:14.13 | stoned | heffay, install gpm |
| 02:14.19 | valdyn | Vasistha: its ok as it is, i guess removing ipmasq disables ip forwarding too |
| 02:14.34 | valdyn | Vasistha: ..which is required for that laptop to act as a router at all |
| 02:15.10 | zythmer | heffay: You can use pastebinit. It accepts the data from a pipe or file. |
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| 02:16.27 | heffay | let me looks those up. thanks |
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| 02:16.27 | Vasistha | valdyn: it may be that the guarddog firewall disables forwarding or something. Someday maybe I'll learn how iptables works so I can do firewalling and other stuff more intelligently. |
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| 02:18.17 | burnclouds | hello all |
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| 02:19.44 | burnclouds | I was wondering if any one knows how to make the debian boot messages look similar to the ones the knoppix folks have (colorful) |
| 02:21.26 | StatusQuote | burnclouds: i think they use bitmap fonts too, don't they? it would probably require some significant software development |
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| 02:22.19 | burnclouds | not sure. I figured if they are deb based, It would not be too much of a long shot to get debian to do it. |
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| 02:23.09 | StatusQuote | burnclouds: if lenny weren't already frozen and still unreleased, it might be done... |
| 02:23.31 | burnclouds | well. I'm using testing/unstable |
| 02:24.17 | StatusQuote | burnclouds: huh? those are two different distributions. |
| 02:24.28 | StatusQuote | testing is lenny, unstable is sid |
| 02:24.38 | burnclouds | correct |
| 02:24.43 | StatusQuote | and lenny is frozen atm |
| 02:24.46 | burnclouds | It's a mixed box |
| 02:24.48 | StatusQuote | oh |
| 02:24.56 | burnclouds | apt-pinning |
| 02:25.29 | burnclouds | And my sources says "testing" not "lenny" |
| 02:25.29 | StatusQuote | well, like i said, it would probably take significant work and the debian developers already have their hands full with getting lenny released |
| 02:25.41 | burnclouds | right |
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| 02:26.42 | StatusQuote | so it could be done, but i wouldn't expect it to be done until after lenny is released at least |
| 02:26.59 | burnclouds | Also, I was wondering why when irc.debian.org/#debian is the "official" support channel, the freenode/#Debian has nearly twice as many users? |
| 02:27.27 | jester45 | freenode is more popular |
| 02:27.29 | StatusQuote | burnclouds: freenode used to be the official channel, it's only recently that they switched to OFTC |
| 02:28.00 | petemc | !oftc move |
| 02:28.01 | dpkg | hmm... oftc move is irc.debian.org moved to OFTC on June 4th 2006 [see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/05/msg00012.html ] Operators and Bots (see <fact sharing>) will remain on both networks for the foreseeable future; you're welcome to either move to OFTC with i.d.o or stay on Freenode. Questions? Ask in #debian on either network. Want to know why? See http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2006/04/msg00333.html |
| 02:28.35 | burnclouds | I see. I've been using debian for six years now and only now am I on irc. |
| 02:29.44 | StatusQuote | i've only been using it for about 3 years |
| 02:29.55 | StatusQuote | and have been here quite often |
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| 02:30.09 | StatusQuote | not always to ask questions, but sometimes |
| 02:33.10 | StatusQuote | burnclouds: so anyway, what do you think of testing? I hope to upgrade as soon as it's released |
| 02:35.38 | StatusQuote | no thoughts? no problems? |
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| 02:44.10 | Xel- | Hey guys |
| 02:44.41 | Xel- | Not trying to start a package war - what is the general consensus on rsyslog vs. syslog-ng as a syslog replacement? |
| 02:44.55 | Xel- | I know they are both enhanced syslog's, I'm just not sure which is generally seen as stronger. |
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| 02:51.03 | n-iCe | hi |
| 02:51.03 | Xel- | lo. |
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| 03:27.50 | dejones | Hello, I am trying to install debian with a net-install from a usb flash drive to a usb flash drive, but whenever I get to the "scan hard drives for iso" the installer says it can't find the net-install iso on the usb flash drive that I booted from... It does find the other usb flash drive, but that one is blank, ready for the install. |
| 03:28.03 | esaym | hello, isn't there a windows based exe installer for debian? |
| 03:28.15 | dejones | Any suggestions? |
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| 03:29.35 | dmoerner | !+tell dejones -about usb install |
| 03:29.36 | dpkg | told dejones about usb install. |
| 03:29.46 | petemc | esaym: http://goodbye-microsoft.com/ |
| 03:29.47 | dejones | dmoerner: ? |
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| 03:30.04 | dmoerner | dejones: read what dpkg told you |
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| 03:30.25 | esaym | TY |
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| 03:31.59 | dejones | dmoerner: That doesn't really help me. I've read those pages; they are what I followed to setup my usb flash drive for the install, but my problem is that the Debian installer is not finding the net-install iso on my usb flash drive that the installer booted from. |
| 03:32.55 | dejones | The installer is trying to "scan hard drives" for the iso image, but it is not scanning the usb flash drive which the installer booted from.. |
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| 03:33.27 | dondelelcaro | dejones: can you mount the usb device manually? |
| 03:33.28 | dejones | Is there a way I can manually mount the usb flash drive which I used to boot from? |
| 03:34.11 | dondelelcaro | dejones: the installer has to be able to mount it, so yes. |
| 03:34.27 | dondelelcaro | (if you can't manually mount it, there's no way the installer can) |
| 03:34.28 | dejones | dondelelcaro: /dev/sda is the only device I see for the other usb flash drive, not sure what device the installer booted from.. |
| 03:36.02 | frostschutz | dejones: I used a ubuntu cd for booting from usb on my netbook, and then installed debian with debootstrap. The ubuntu cd goes great lengths in locating the device, other cds expect an actual cd drive to be present... not sure if / how it can be made to work with the netinstall |
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| 03:38.08 | dejones | I have installed from the usb flash drive with a net-install before to a SATA hard drive, but never from a usb flash drive to a usb flash drive, which doesn't seem to work correctly. |
| 03:38.26 | bluethundr_ | how do I 'grep recursively'? |
| 03:38.32 | frostschutz | bluethundr_: grep -r |
| 03:38.42 | bluethundr_ | danke schoen |
| 03:38.49 | frostschutz | dejones: as long as it boots it should be fine? |
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| 03:39.45 | dejones | frostschutz: well, it boots but doesn't find the net-install iso from the usb flash drive, so I'm stuck. :( |
| 03:40.16 | frostschutz | dejones: then how did you install from usb flash drive with net install before? :) |
| 03:40.36 | frostschutz | dejones: either net-install boots or it doesn't... if you did it before you should know how you did it ;) |
| 03:40.51 | dejones | frostschutz: it worked before, just doesn't work this time. the only difference is that I am installing from a usb flash drive to a usb flash drive |
| 03:41.10 | dejones | it's the debian installer that can't find the iso on the usb flash drive, although it is the same one! |
| 03:41.37 | frostschutz | so it boots if you don't connect the other usb drive? |
| 03:42.11 | dejones | yea. |
| 03:42.12 | dejones | :( |
| 03:42.22 | frostschutz | so connect the other drive only after it booted? |
| 03:42.34 | dejones | hmm, I'll give that a shot. |
| 03:42.38 | dejones | maybe get lucky! |
| 03:42.39 | dejones | lol |
| 03:42.40 | dejones | thanks frostschutz |
| 03:42.42 | dejones | :) |
| 03:42.51 | frostschutz | abytune |
| 03:42.54 | frostschutz | I mean, anytime |
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| 03:47.54 | dejones | frostschutz: ah ha, I think I figured out my error! I did zcat to the partition, not the device, so it wasn't finding the iso! |
| 03:47.56 | dejones | :) |
| 03:48.08 | dejones | eventhough the iso is on the flash drive, heh. |
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| 03:52.39 | Wicked | hello all. i set up a static ip in /etc/networking/interfaces and restarted the network...that worked fine..but today i went to ssh back into the machine and its ip was different then the one i get it....it seems somehow it reverted to using dhcp. is there any other settings i need to change? |
| 03:52.57 | Wicked | i now have re-restarted the the network and it is using the static ip again. |
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| 03:56.05 | Sifre | hi |
| 03:56.11 | Wicked | err */etc/network/interfaces |
| 03:56.21 | Sifre | how to open Rar file? |
| 03:56.25 | Sifre | in debain |
| 03:56.31 | Wicked | you need unrar |
| 03:56.37 | Sifre | apt-get install rar |
| 03:56.42 | Sifre | yes |
| 03:56.42 | Wicked | unrar |
| 03:56.49 | Sifre | how to open file? |
| 03:56.51 | Wicked | rar != unrar |
| 03:56.58 | Wicked | man unrar |
| 03:57.07 | Sifre | examle? |
| 03:57.08 | Sifre | pls |
| 03:57.15 | Wicked | should be in the man pages |
| 03:57.18 | Sifre | x.rar ? |
| 03:57.26 | Sifre | how to ým open in debain |
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| 03:57.48 | Sifre | heyyy |
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| 04:01.20 | indu | hi all, for the kannel debian package, how can i enable mysql |
| 04:03.02 | dondelelcaro | indu: the kannel packages debian distributes already have it enabled. |
| 04:03.24 | indu | but addding dlr-storage=mysql |
| 04:03.40 | indu | and seting proper mysql settings, is not accepting |
| 04:03.54 | indu | its showing error message like DLR: storage type 'mysql' is not supported! |
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| 04:15.46 | YooPhGluP | does anyone know anything about "ultumix"??? |
| 04:16.22 | abrotman | it's not debian |
| 04:16.33 | abrotman | try ##linux |
| 04:16.38 | YooPhGluP | ok thanks |
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| 04:24.30 | heffay | can someone help me install the base system to an lvm partition |
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| 04:28.31 | twiadpaws | lo |
| 04:28.53 | twiadpaws | how can i set up debian to use an external smtp for everything? |
| 04:29.17 | abrotman | which smtp server are you using? you want to setup a smarthost |
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| 04:30.41 | twiadpaws | an external one of mine. sorry what's a smarthost? |
| 04:30.55 | abrotman | !smarthost |
| 04:30.56 | dpkg | A smart host is a type of mail relay server (typically your ISP SMTP server) which allows an SMTP server to route e-mail to an intermediate mail server rather than directly to the recipientâs server. |
| 04:31.01 | heffay | the debian installer is giving me problems |
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| 04:31.54 | twiadpaws | so i need this? |
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| 04:32.13 | yitz_ | How do I change if aptitude selects for install a package that is only recommended? |
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| 04:32.34 | reZo | hey, i have three hard drives, all sata, and want to install debian on the 3rd installed hard drive, and put grub on my main hard drive, would this work? |
| 04:32.46 | twiadpaws | no that's not what i want, i simply want to send mails using a given mailaddress. i do not want to receive mails or something |
| 04:33.01 | abrotman | twiadpaws: sounds like what you want |
| 04:33.03 | abrotman | reZo: it should |
| 04:33.08 | reZo | okay cool |
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| 04:33.15 | abrotman | twiadpaws: you setup your machine to send all outgoing mail to a real mail server |
| 04:33.34 | twiadpaws | abrotman, yes, so smarthost? |
| 04:33.55 | abrotman | that's what it sounds like you're after |
| 04:37.02 | dondelelcaro | twiadpaws: for that, exim's configuration can do that, or you can install nullmailer or esmtp, which also relay to a smarthost. |
| 04:38.12 | indu | if kannel is already havging mysql configured then why am i facing the message |
| 04:38.18 | indu | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:38.21 | slabdata | twiadpaws: http://www.us.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch08s05.html.en#mail-outgoing |
| 04:38.27 | indu | could come one please help me |
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| 04:40.49 | dondelelcaro | indu: which version of kannel are you using? |
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| 04:41.05 | indu | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:41.26 | dondelelcaro | indu: it's linked against libmysqlclient15off, so it should support mysql |
| 04:41.45 | heffay | can someoone give me a hand with installing debian on lvm? |
| 04:41.49 | indu | i have libmysqlclient15off installed in my system |
| 04:41.50 | dondelelcaro | I personally don't use kannel, so I can't tell you if you need to do something special to enable it, but the Debian package should support it |
| 04:41.54 | dondelelcaro | heffay: best to just ask your question |
| 04:42.03 | dondelelcaro | !depends kannel |
| 04:42.11 | indu | yes the changelog files say that the mysql support is there, but |
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| 04:42.20 | indu | the error shows that there is no myslq support |
| 04:42.31 | heffay | why cant i install the base system to an lvm partiton? |
| 04:42.34 | dpkg | kannel: depends on libc6 (>= 2.7-1), libmysqlclient15off (>= 5.0.27-1), libpam0g (>= 0.99.7.1), libssl0.9.8 (>= 0.9.8f-5), libxml2 (>= 2.6.27), adduser |
| 04:42.44 | twiadpaws | dondelelcaro, after having set it up, any mail configured correctly in exim4 will be redirected autmatically? |
| 04:43.52 | dondelelcaro | twiadpaws: in theory, yes |
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| 04:44.09 | dondelelcaro | heffay: you can. However, you usually need a separate non-lvm /boot |
| 04:44.26 | dondelelcaro | indu: have you followed the instructions here: http://www.kannel.org/download/1.4.2/userguide-1.4.2/userguide.html#AEN2922 |
| 04:44.51 | indu | yes |
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| 04:46.03 | twiadpaws | because i want it to use in php as smtp only at the moment. for further use it's better to have more likely global settings though, so i can mess around with one address from everywhere inside using more likely global settings |
| 04:46.48 | heffay | i do have a boot partiton |
| 04:47.17 | heffay | the partitioner is acting crazy |
| 04:47.25 | heffay | it keeps adding swap partitions |
| 04:47.32 | dondelelcaro | heffay: well, you pretty much owant them. |
| 04:48.00 | heffay | i dont want more than one logical swap volume |
| 04:48.01 | dondelelcaro | heffay: but in any event, once you've set up a separate, non-lvm /boot, and assigned a partition to use for lvm, you can then go ahead and create the volume groups and logical volumes for lvm |
| 04:48.12 | heffay | ive done all of that already |
| 04:48.19 | dondelelcaro | heffay: so what's the problem then? |
| 04:48.27 | heffay | base system wont install |
| 04:48.31 | dondelelcaro | heffay: what's the error? |
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| 04:49.09 | heffay | ext3 file system creation in partition 1 of lvm vg root failed |
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| 04:49.55 | dondelelcaro | heffay: look at the error message on console 4 |
| 04:50.01 | dondelelcaro | heffay: it should tell you why it failed |
| 04:50.04 | heffay | when i escape out from the red screen it adds another root vg called root p1 by itself |
| 04:50.24 | dondelelcaro | heffay: that sounds like you have some underlying superblocks from some pre-existing install |
| 04:50.25 | heffay | it says its in use by the system |
| 04:50.39 | heffay | there was a previous install |
| 04:50.48 | heffay | basically im trying to reinstall everything but my home vg |
| 04:50.52 | dondelelcaro | heffay: restart the installer from the beginning and recreate the lvm images, possibly zeroing out the superblocks for the parition |
| 04:51.21 | dondelelcaro | uh... if that's what you want to do, you shouldn't be creating the vg groups in the installer |
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| 04:51.40 | heffay | what should i be doing? |
| 04:52.04 | heffay | im just trying to install the base system on the old root vg but it keeps taking me to the partitioner |
| 04:52.10 | dondelelcaro | heffay: they should already be created for you; you just need to create new logical volumes for the root partitions, etc. |
| 04:52.32 | heffay | ive deleted the old vgs and created new ones |
| 04:52.35 | heffay | several times now |
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| 04:52.49 | heffay | its still the old mapper though, could that be it? |
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| 04:54.26 | doctormo | I want to install debian on an old PIII with 64MB of RAM, the cdrom drive is shot, it's got one usb drive, and I have 1 dsl floppy disk. I've managed to boot up into dsl, using their floppy to usb magic. Does debian have anything similar? |
| 04:54.38 | slabdata | 1 |
| 04:55.44 | abrotman | doctormo: you want a floppy installer ? |
| 04:55.56 | doctormo | I'm not sure what I want to be honest |
| 04:56.00 | dondelelcaro | heffay: deleting the old vgs will destroy any data that's on them |
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| 04:56.12 | abrotman | !bf |
| 04:56.13 | dpkg | methinks etch floppies is http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/main/installer-i386/current/images/floppy/ or substitute your arch for "i386". If you want lenny/testing change "etch" to "lenny". |
| 04:56.22 | doctormo | I'm limited in my ability to make floppy disks. creating the 3 disks needed to run a network install would be a royal pain |
| 04:56.39 | dondelelcaro | doctormo: do you have any machines that are working besides this old p3? |
| 04:56.54 | doctormo | dondelelcaro: only newer machines without fdds |
| 04:57.04 | dondelelcaro | doctormo: but they still have ide? |
| 04:57.23 | dondelelcaro | doctormo: rip out the hard drive from the p3, and install it using one of your newer machines. Doing otherwise will only lead to pain. |
| 04:57.56 | doctormo | dondelelcaro: It's got star screws, and I have no star screwdriver |
| 04:58.08 | dondelelcaro | so? |
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| 04:58.16 | heffay | i know that. |
| 04:58.22 | heffay | why cant i install this? |
| 04:58.24 | dondelelcaro | doctormo: you surely can stick the cases next to eachother and route the cables between them? |
| 04:58.25 | abrotman | doctormo: just put the case next to another case .. you don't actually have to physically move it |
| 04:58.36 | doctormo | dondelelcaro: it's a laptop |
| 04:58.44 | dondelelcaro | (and what in the world is a "star screwdriver"?) |
| 04:58.52 | dondelelcaro | oh, you mean a torx bit |
| 04:59.15 | doctormo | dunno what they are called, I calls them like I see them. |
| 04:59.20 | dondelelcaro | they're torx. |
| 04:59.57 | dondelelcaro | there are a few dozen types of screws that look like "stars" from triblades to secure torx screws. |
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| 05:00.13 | newsense | those torx screwdrivers are hard to find |
| 05:00.26 | doctormo | ok so a laptop, p3, inability to move hdd, should I start digging out the floppies? |
| 05:00.27 | heffay | haha |
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| 05:01.11 | dondelelcaro | newsense: they're actually the easiest of all of the "odd" screwdrivers |
| 05:01.18 | doctormo | it's a shame there isn't a way to install debian from DSL |
| 05:01.50 | K_Sakura | Netinst. |
| 05:01.51 | twiadpaws | that's not working, shouldn't i be prompted for a password during configuration? |
| 05:02.14 | newsense | dondelelcaro: i needed one once and couldnt get one anywhere, maybe im thinking of something different ( it was for a nintendo ds) |
| 05:03.17 | indu | i have chacked the rules file of kannel debian package |
| 05:03.37 | indu | for the cofiggure step its mentioned, ./configure --with-mysql --with-mysql-dir=/usr |
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| 05:03.50 | indu | its supporting mysql, with this, but what is this /usr |
| 05:04.02 | heffay | i keep getting this error |
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| 05:04.13 | indu | why is it seting the mysql dir to usr, where as debian doesn't install mysql database under /usr |
| 05:04.16 | heffay | ive deleted the partition so many times |
| 05:04.33 | x1250 | wow sshfs does streaming audio and video :) |
| 05:04.49 | heffay | it says it wont format because the device is in use |
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| 05:04.57 | heffay | how do i take it out of use then? |
| 05:06.06 | paulfitzpatrick_ | anyone know a good source for shell scripts to help manage dns zone files? |
| 05:06.13 | dondelelcaro | newsense: the nintendo ds uses a tri-wing screw |
| 05:06.14 | paulfitzpatrick_ | eg. input a domain name and it uses a template to create a new zone file and updates named.conf.local |
| 05:06.21 | dondelelcaro | newsense: those are pretty rare |
| 05:06.44 | newsense | dondelelcaro: thats what im thinking of, thanks for bringing that up, exactly what i couldnt find |
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| 05:06.55 | dondelelcaro | newsense: they're pretty easy to get online |
| 05:07.15 | dondelelcaro | (but you won't find them in most stores; I think I have one somewhere around in a hex bit) |
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| 05:07.26 | newsense | dondelelcaro: star screwdrivers are common, most car headlight covers use those screws |
| 05:08.04 | dondelelcaro | they're not star; they're torx |
| 05:08.11 | doctormo | you know, I think I might give up on this machine |
| 05:08.15 | Sefram_ | Does anybody know if I can use Debian with an nvidia nforce mcp55 chipset (network)? |
| 05:08.34 | dondelelcaro | newsense: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torx |
| 05:08.38 | newsense | dondelelcaro: sorry :) |
| 05:08.41 | doctormo | I wanted to get it set up with something for a little lad who's interested in programming. but it's late, and I'm tired |
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| 05:09.46 | newsense | dondelelcaro: thanks, sorry for my ignorance |
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| 05:10.02 | doctormo | Last question before I go though: if I've made a deb package for wizardpen x11 input drivers, complete with new fdi files. But it fails to build on amd64. How would I think about testing it on my core 2 duo, running 32bit ubuntu? |
| 05:11.06 | dondelelcaro | doctormo: build it in a 64bit chroot |
| 05:11.16 | dondelelcaro | (assuming you're using a 64bit kernel on the core 2 duo) |
| 05:11.25 | doctormo | dondelelcaro: something like pbuilder? because I tried that and it borked. |
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| 05:11.43 | doctormo | dondelelcaro: Ah, I'm not, and I take it, it's not simple to do so now. |
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| 05:13.45 | doctormo | Ah well, looks like a lot of wasted time, thanks for your help guys |
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| 05:15.38 | indu | i can't get any support for my debian kannel software |
| 05:15.40 | indu | ? |
| 05:16.02 | stoned | indu, come again? |
| 05:16.08 | stoned | kannel? |
| 05:16.13 | indu | yes |
| 05:16.20 | indu | kannel - sms gateway |
| 05:16.25 | dondelelcaro | indu: the debian kannel build supports mysql; if it's not working, then it's either a bug or a misconfiguration |
| 05:16.47 | indu | i think misconfiguratio |
| 05:16.49 | dondelelcaro | I looked at the source package, and it's clearly enabled, so it's most likely a misconfiguration |
| 05:17.03 | indu | yes i too looked at the source |
| 05:17.12 | indu | i would repeat my analysis |
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| 05:17.35 | indu | the rules file have the ./configure --with-mysql --with-mysql-dir=/usr |
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| 05:17.44 | indu | why is the mysql dir mentioned as /usr |
| 05:18.51 | twiadpaws | why would i need a) system aliases to send a mail after having set up exim4 b) to send the mail over root@domain, event hough i have specified another address to send from |
| 05:19.43 | indu | as debian doesn't install mysql under /usr |
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| 05:22.34 | indu | so is it not misconfiguration problem ? dondelelcaro |
| 05:22.53 | Mikaze | Is Lenny stable yet? |
| 05:23.44 | gewt | maybe. |
| 05:23.50 | gewt | !lenny |
| 05:23.50 | dpkg | from memory, lenny is the codename for the next Debian release, currently testing. To upgrade to lenny, ask me about <etch->lenny>. Lenny is the binoculars. Lenny will be known as version 5.0 and it will hopefully be released soon (ask me about <wwlr>). A <moving target>. See also <testing> and <lenny status>. |
| 05:24.15 | Mikaze | grunts. |
| 05:24.24 | gewt | !tell Mikaze about lenny status |
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| 05:26.04 | Mikaze | continues running safe-upgrade then. |
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| 05:27.18 | lenux3 | is there a dsl chat or is it allowable in here |
| 05:27.36 | abrotman | #damnsmalllinux or ##linux, not here |
| 05:27.44 | lenux3 | ty |
| 05:27.58 | lenux3 | on freenode correct? |
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| 05:32.44 | toolz | hmmm I am trying to decompress a .tar.bz2 file and I get some errors |
| 05:33.14 | deadcat_ | toolz: sounds like a corrupted file |
| 05:33.16 | toolz | but I fixed it |
| 05:33.27 | toolz | neah I'm too sleepy and dumb to read the error :D |
| 05:35.14 | toolz | hmm, how do I enable colors in bash? so I can see dirs blue colors, green for executables and so on? |
| 05:35.33 | twiadpaws | how can i use blah@domain as a mailaddress for user1 instead of user1@domain? |
| 05:35.52 | Mikaze | Read ~/.bash_profile and ~/.bashrc |
| 05:35.53 | petemc | toolz: alias ls='ls --color=auto |
| 05:36.12 | petemc | toolz: /etc/aliases , if your mta looks there |
| 05:36.14 | petemc | gah |
| 05:36.20 | petemc | twiadpaws: ^^^ |
| 05:36.49 | Mikaze | You should only need to uncomment a few lines in .bashrc to get color. |
| 05:37.25 | toolz | Mikaze, but, will it enable it for all users added on the machine? |
| 05:37.38 | slabdata | twiadpaws: edit your /etc/email-addresses |
| 05:38.02 | petemc | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:38.05 | Mikaze | doesn't care about "other" users. <grins> Let them do it themselves. |
| 05:38.38 | petemc | toolz: its enabled by default, look in /etc/skel/ |
| 05:39.41 | toolz | after I uncommented and logged in works, yeah |
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| 05:40.36 | Mikaze | /etc/skel contains the same files (for setting up all new users added to the system). |
| 05:41.59 | twiadpaws | why would it use root@domain even though im not even logged in as root |
| 05:42.53 | twiadpaws | any why would it say "<domain>.<top-level>." was invalid? |
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| 05:43.10 | kingsley | Do default kernels allow pinging to multicast rtp addresses like 224.0.0.56? |
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| 05:44.59 | twiadpaws | wah this thing it's messing with me i think it' actually alive laughing it's ass off and want me to go nuts!! |
| 05:45.07 | twiadpaws | err its* |
| 05:45.54 | petemc | kingsley: yes, but you'll need to set up a route to do so |
| 05:47.47 | twiadpaws | oh great, it's delivering locall |
| 05:47.48 | twiadpaws | yes |
| 05:47.55 | twiadpaws | god |
| 05:48.42 | twiadpaws | i think i prefer bluescreens |
| 05:48.55 | Mikaze | By default, root's mail gets delivered to the user you created after setting up the root user's password. |
| 05:49.24 | twiadpaws | mail -s 'foobar' foobar@domain? |
| 05:49.36 | petemc | Mikaze: it does? how so? |
| 05:50.12 | Mikaze | petemc: Just keep hitting "Enter" while running the install. |
| 05:50.51 | twiadpaws | i did not! |
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| 05:51.37 | Mikaze | Edit /etc/aliases and run newaliases (something like that). |
| 05:52.13 | petemc | exim doesnt need newaliases |
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| 05:52.38 | Mikaze | I run sendmail. Forgotten most of exim4's stuff. |
| 05:52.49 | shyam_k | hai is there any kind of write protection for usb flash drives in debian that won't let you write to the disk even if you mount it -w in a root system?! |
| 05:53.36 | shyam_k | just to confirm there isn't any;-) |
| 05:54.24 | petemc | shyam_k: are you excluding using standard permissions? |
| 05:54.38 | Mikaze | shyam_k: Think you need to mount the drive with an alternate umask or Owner:group ownerships. |
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| 05:57.01 | twiadpaws | why would it say the domain was malformed when fqdn was requested and the domain was typed alike? |
| 05:58.53 | twiadpaws | aight forget that |
| 05:59.19 | twiadpaws | exim4 said it wanted it this way, though it doesn't want it this way |
| 05:59.30 | shyam_k | petemc: chmod and all? |
| 05:59.49 | twiadpaws | still it says the address was unroutable |
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| 06:00.07 | twiadpaws | eerr *unrouteable |
| 06:00.38 | Mikaze | twiadpaws: There's always ~/.forward - Put the email addy where you want the mail to go in .forward to forward the mail. |
| 06:00.41 | twiadpaws | it's not fkin unrouteable can i smack it in the mouth? : < |
| 06:00.45 | petemc | shyam_k: sure, and what Mikaze said |
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| 06:01.08 | petemc | twiadpaws: exim will only do what you tell it, are you using debconf to configure it? |
| 06:01.25 | shyam_k | petemc: Mikazethe problem is with my friend and he says , as he mounts it it says the device is write protected and mounts in read only mode.. |
| 06:01.32 | twiadpaws | petemc, i used it indeed |
| 06:01.51 | twiadpaws | Mikaze, there's no such file |
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| 06:01.55 | petemc | twiadpaws: which option did you choose? |
| 06:02.03 | twiadpaws | internet thingy |
| 06:02.04 | Mikaze | Make the file. |
| 06:02.19 | twiadpaws | Mikaze, create for any user? |
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| 06:02.47 | petemc | twiadpaws: the problematic address, where should it go? |
| 06:03.07 | Mikaze | twiadpaws: Run "dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config" first. |
| 06:03.19 | twiadpaws | Mikaze, that's what i've runned already |
| 06:03.26 | twiadpaws | peleg, to an external mail-server |
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| 06:04.43 | petemc | pastebin the output of exim4 -d bt address |
| 06:04.52 | Mikaze | Masquerade as the other server. Keep your own name and re-write the mail headers using masquerading. |
| 06:05.00 | petemc | exim4 -d -bt address |
| 06:05.29 | Mikaze | And pray you're not trying to masquerade as gmail. |
| 06:05.31 | shyam_k | petemc: but i was thinking there was any kind of such real write protection facility that mounts it read only even if you are root..? |
| 06:05.50 | shyam_k | even if you are manually mounting it as root.. |
| 06:05.51 | petemc | shyam_k: what filesystem? |
| 06:05.52 | twiadpaws | wow that's a lot of text |
| 06:05.52 | shyam_k | fat |
| 06:05.56 | twiadpaws | and what's pastebin? |
| 06:06.36 | petemc | shyam_k: the permissions are set when you mount it |
| 06:06.57 | shyam_k | petemc: yeah -w while mounting na? he'll try it out.. |
| 06:07.04 | petemc | no |
| 06:07.10 | slabdata | twiadpaws: http://pastebin.com/ |
| 06:07.17 | petemc | !tell shyam_k about vfatrw |
| 06:07.34 | Mikaze | shyam_k: You need to set the umask when you mount it to make it read-only. |
| 06:07.46 | shyam_k | now adds umask to his dictionary |
| 06:08.24 | twiadpaws | gets personally now with that amount of information :b |
| 06:08.24 | Mikaze | shyam_k: You can see your default umask in /etc/fstab |
| 06:08.59 | shyam_k | Mikaze: i want it to make it read/write.. but the partition is only mounting for read only.. but this too can be solved by specifying umask..? |
| 06:10.41 | shyam_k | i.e when mounted without any options, the partition is mounted read only saying that the device is write protected! |
| 06:10.50 | Mikaze | The point you mount it to should be rwxrwxrwx as well run "ls -l <dir>" and "chmod 777 <dir>" to make it r/w. |
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| 06:11.28 | shyam_k | Mikaze: that will work even if the device is mounted read only? |
| 06:11.40 | twiadpaws | unroutable address ofc |
| 06:11.43 | Mikaze | Good examples of mount points are in your /media directory. |
| 06:12.10 | hoxu | Mikaze, uh, 777 for the mount point? Why? |
| 06:12.33 | hoxu | 777 is in general a bad idea |
| 06:12.40 | Mikaze | Because that's what the others are set up for. |
| 06:12.51 | hoxu | shyam_k, what command do you use to mount the fat partition? |
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| 06:14.11 | rgr | I recently regenerated my root public key, enabled root ssh access on a lan server of mind but its still not letting me connect as root. PermitRootLogin is set to yes in the sshd_config on the target machine. It keeps prompting for a root password when I try to login. I stuck the pub key in the root authroized_keys file. Any ideas? |
| 06:14.19 | twiadpaws | petemc, http://pastebin.com/d450d657e |
| 06:14.22 | Mikaze | uses "mount -t vfat /dev/sd1 /media/thumb0" |
| 06:14.42 | shyam_k | hoxu: he mounted it just the usual way without options say mount /dev/sda1 /media/thumb like that.. |
| 06:14.54 | shyam_k | and then it says its write protected.. |
| 06:14.54 | hoxu | rgr, show us the output of "ls -ld ~/.ssh ~/.ssh/authorized_keys*" |
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| 06:15.33 | rgr | I can ssh in as a normal user btw |
| 06:15.36 | hoxu | shyam_k, what does "mount -l |grep vfat" say? |
| 06:16.16 | Mikaze | shyam_k: You may need to adjust /etc/groups and add the non-root user to the 'disk' group. |
| 06:16.29 | \amethyst | rgr: what are the permissions on root's .ssh and .ssh/authorized_keys ? |
| 06:16.52 | rgr | on the destination machine I take it? |
| 06:16.56 | \amethyst | rgr: yes |
| 06:17.31 | rgr | moment |
| 06:18.14 | shyam_k | hoxu: grrr really sorry .. my friend is in his m$ system.. actually my doubt was that in general is there any write protect system that can let the device mount read only if you mount it with mount command.. |
| 06:18.17 | Mikaze | looks in /etc/groups to see if there's a 'usb' group. |
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| 06:18.36 | shyam_k | Mikaze: can't get even if he is root thats the problem.. |
| 06:18.38 | \amethyst | Mikaze: USB disks? probably plugdev if one is using hal |
| 06:18.41 | hoxu | DO NOT add users into the disk group, that's the same as using a root account instead of a normal user |
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| 06:19.46 | rgr | \amethyst: 700 and 600 respectively |
| 06:19.47 | twiadpaws | petemc, you still there? ;) don't abandon me :b |
| 06:20.01 | hoxu | rgr, did you check the syslog? |
| 06:20.08 | n-iCe | hello |
| 06:20.23 | hoxu | rgr, also, do you have any AllowGroups/AllowUsers/Deny* directives in sshd_config? |
| 06:20.36 | shyam_k | my doubt was that if you mount something with "mount <dev> <dir>" normally for a fat system it should be mounting it in read/write and is it possible to set any write protection system which can over come this?(there is nothing in /etc/fstab about the disk) |
| 06:20.39 | hoxu | rgr, and did you restart ssh after setting "PermitRootLogin yes"? |
| 06:20.41 | \amethyst | rgr: yeah, I'd try turning up LogLevel to at least DEBUG on the server |
| 06:20.44 | Mikaze | Hmmmm. I see a 'plugdev' group in /etc/group |
| 06:21.03 | rgr | hoxu: no,yes and will do. |
| 06:21.22 | hoxu | shyam_k, read the "/msg dpkg vfatrw" factoid, and come back when you have access to the system so we can help with troubleshooting... |
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| 06:21.48 | Mikaze | Sorry, shyam_k. I only access my pin drives as root. Never tried them as other users. |
| 06:22.11 | shyam_k | Mikaze: uh there is no root, non-root problem here.. |
| 06:22.36 | shyam_k | Mikaze: my doubt is about mounting disk as root..and about write protection facilities.. |
| 06:22.37 | rgr | hoxu: what is this loglevel? |
| 06:22.47 | shyam_k | Mikaze: i just wanted to confirm there is nothing like that in gnu.. |
| 06:22.52 | rgr | ok, found it |
| 06:23.02 | hoxu | rgr, for debugging the sshd, you can use "/msg dpkg debug sshd" (no need to shut down the actual sshd) |
| 06:23.13 | \amethyst | shyam_k: you can't keep root from mounting a disk as read-write without doing something to the device |
| 06:23.34 | shyam_k | \amethyst: there ya go;-) |
| 06:23.58 | Mikaze | I think the GUI has access to the pin drives, but I never use the GUI for anything. The screen reader for the blind sucks rocks. |
| 06:24.01 | \amethyst | shyam_k: even if you did, for example, mark the disk as ro in fstab, root could get around that |
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| 06:24.56 | shyam_k | hmm now its all clear and got a umask class.. wonderfull! thanks a lott guys!:) |
| 06:25.13 | rgr | nothing at all in syslog |
| 06:25.22 | \amethyst | shyam_k: floppies had write-protect mechanisms enforced by hardware---maybe some USB sticks have something similar |
| 06:25.44 | \amethyst | most hard drives have a jumper |
| 06:25.58 | hoxu | \amethyst, for read only mode? |
| 06:26.02 | \amethyst | yes |
| 06:26.06 | hoxu | that's new to me :) |
| 06:26.16 | \amethyst | well |
| 06:26.20 | twiadpaws | usb disks cleary dont have jumpers |
| 06:26.22 | \amethyst | they did back in PATA days, anyway |
| 06:26.47 | Mikaze | Only jumper I know of is the master/slave/cable-select jumper. |
| 06:27.03 | \amethyst | maybe it depends on the brand |
| 06:27.14 | shyam_k | \amethyst: no h/w here though.. |
| 06:27.16 | hoxu | seems likely |
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| 06:28.28 | Mikaze | If you plug the ribbon cable in upside down, that write-protects the drive. <grins> |
| 06:28.53 | twiadpaws | hahahaha |
| 06:28.53 | rgr | \amethyst: yup (auth.log) User root from 192.168.0.104 not allowed because not listed in AllowUsers |
| 06:29.08 | Stanlin | WPA is broken! |
| 06:29.17 | \amethyst | if you manage to plug in the power connector upside-down you can permanently read-protect the drive |
| 06:29.26 | zinx | Stanlin: so use WPA2 |
| 06:29.26 | Stanlin | liable: hello |
| 06:29.34 | Stanlin | zinx: not working too |
| 06:29.43 | \amethyst | not useful for security purposes, though, since someone can just transfer the platters to a new board |
| 06:29.49 | twiadpaws | \amethyst, worked with a cd-rom of mine once |
| 06:29.51 | zinx | oh, i thought you meant broken in the crypto sense |
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| 06:30.06 | zinx | since coming in #debian and yelling "WPA is broken!" is completely 100% meaningless otherwise |
| 06:30.20 | Stanlin | zinx: when i select the SSID, it asks for key, i put the key and doesnt connect anymore, it was connecting yesterday, then i shutdown the computer and turn it oon today |
| 06:30.55 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, cool you got some knowledge of wireless, you may help me after your problem has been solved :b |
| 06:30.56 | rgr | thanks guys. fixed. |
| 06:31.19 | Stanlin | twiadpaws: sure, whats the problem |
| 06:31.25 | Stanlin | liable: help!! |
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| 06:33.12 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, i can authorise successfully only using wep (haha), any other encryption does not seem to work. moreover i can route computers who are connected to the wireless router using a wired connection. wireless connection arrive the router only, not anything else though |
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| 06:33.36 | twiadpaws | arrive = reach |
| 06:33.38 | tester_ | my install is trashed. can someone help me out with a restor? |
| 06:33.40 | Stanlin | twiadpaws: ill write in my wiki, how i did it, give me 5 mins |
| 06:33.42 | tester_ | restore* |
| 06:34.39 | tester_ | im trying to reinstall and the installer is fighting me all the way |
| 06:34.39 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, thanx, can you help me with some networking knowledge? |
| 06:34.51 | Stanlin | go on |
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| 06:36.15 | tester_ | im using lvm2 and the installer wont let me make a new root filesystem because it says the current one is in use |
| 06:36.24 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, i have a 192.168.1.1 / 255.255.255.0 network for home, if i connect another router to the network, using 192.168.1.1 as "wan" address and 192.168.11.1 as the "LAN" address, that should work, shouldn't it? |
| 06:36.25 | tester_ | how do i get around this? |
| 06:37.11 | Stanlin | twiadpaws: sure, each network in different subnets, should work separately and fine |
| 06:38.05 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, cool, im not mistaken then, im using 192.168.1.1, which is the first router actually, as the gateway for the 2nd router. |
| 06:38.14 | twiadpaws | should also work? |
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| 06:38.58 | twiadpaws | atm i'm connected even with this pc in the 192.168.11.x / 255.255.255.0 subnet, seems to be working fine |
| 06:39.09 | Stanlin | twiadpaws: yeah, thats correct, you can bridge the 2 networks using your routers |
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| 06:39.19 | twiadpaws | alright |
| 06:39.27 | twiadpaws | then |
| 06:39.58 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, the cable from the 2nd router to the 1st router's network comes into the as "wan" described slot? |
| 06:40.50 | tester_ | anyone? |
| 06:41.09 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, problem is, as I said wired connection work fine, wireless dont. i best encryption i can get for wireless is wep. any other fail at authorising. but even when authorised i can't reach anything |
| 06:41.17 | Stanlin | twiadpaws: aint that simple, what model is that router? |
| 06:41.23 | twiadpaws | tester_, sorry i have no clue about lvm2 |
| 06:41.31 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, just newly arrived, it's buffalo |
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| 06:41.53 | twiadpaws | ill look up the model moment |
| 06:41.55 | Stanlin | twiadpaws: are you using AP or Bridge mode? |
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| 06:42.04 | tester_ | im just using the standard lenny installer though |
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| 06:42.22 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, i set it up as router, which shouldn't cause problems |
| 06:42.43 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, i dislike ap mode, because it wouldn't let me set up stuff |
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| 06:42.59 | Stanlin | twiadpaws: set the WIFI as Bridge |
| 06:43.10 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, the manual describes it would use given settings, what given settings though because it's the only wlan-adapter in the network |
| 06:43.24 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, there's only AP and router |
| 06:43.41 | akina | hi! anyone plaese give me an idea on how to record mpeg streams from a webcam and save it as a video file on my machine? i can view the mpeg streams on (e.g. 192.168.2.2:7777) but i don't know what application is capable of recording this. thanks |
| 06:43.52 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, how to set it as bridge? i even had to configure dhcp on the first router so it would successfully connect |
| 06:44.03 | Stanlin | twiadpaws: doh, sorry this is very specific on your hardware, from the debian side, there is not much to do |
| 06:44.06 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, there's only pppop (sorry for misspelling) and dhcp |
| 06:44.20 | newsense | twiadpaws: ap mode is probobly comparible to a switch |
| 06:44.38 | Stanlin | twiadpaws: well, probably your hardware wasnt designed for that |
| 06:44.43 | twiadpaws | newsense, how would that work without having the possibility to set up encryption and stuff |
| 06:44.59 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, great i'm buying stuff i cant even use |
| 06:45.04 | Stanlin | twiadpaws: i would use a computer with linux to do a reouter |
| 06:45.19 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, that would be an overkill |
| 06:45.22 | newsense | twiadpaws: shouldnt matter, jst nat and dhcp should most likely be disabled in "ap" mode |
| 06:45.52 | Stanlin | twiadpaws: yes, but by other hand, your hardware doesnt support your desired setup |
| 06:45.56 | twiadpaws | newsense, i cant configure wlan at all in ap mode, don't know where it gets the settings from |
| 06:46.30 | twiadpaws | the point is that wired connections actually work, but wireless ones do not |
| 06:46.49 | newsense | twiadpaws: when ya are in ap mode dhcp is disabled and you need a static ip to connect probobly |
| 06:46.51 | Stanlin | you need bridge mode |
| 06:47.03 | twiadpaws | i'm not happy made to set up dhcp, though it would work |
| 06:47.11 | twiadpaws | ill let it be |
| 06:47.12 | twiadpaws | if it* |
| 06:47.28 | twiadpaws | newsense, i can't even connect to the webinterface when in ap mode |
| 06:47.36 | twiadpaws | newsense, actually i cant do nothing |
| 06:47.55 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, how to? |
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| 06:48.28 | newsense | twiadpaws: and you are using a static ip ? |
| 06:48.46 | newsense | twiadpaws: a static ip in the same subnet as the ap ? |
| 06:48.59 | twiadpaws | newsense, what for? |
| 06:49.00 | tester_ | what does it mean when im getting the error that a device is in use by the system so i cant create a filesystem? |
| 06:49.05 | Stanlin | twiadpaws: you buy an ap that support bridging, it costs 20 dollars or so |
| 06:49.44 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, it cost already 50 chf, errr similiar to 30 euro, whatever currency |
| 06:50.13 | twiadpaws | it supports pppoe, but not the way i want it |
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| 06:50.53 | Stanlin | twiadpaws: why do you use this crap, if you want something very specific use Linux with a computer |
| 06:51.16 | Isil`Zha | hallo. i have an issue with exim and clamav. "malware acl condition: clamd: unable to connect to UNIX socket /var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl (Connection refused)" searching the web the solution seems to be to update clamd. an update which is not available within the stable branch. no i wonder if there would be any alternative approach to solve this (other than deactivating clamav) |
| 06:51.34 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, there's no need to use it that way, being forced to run even another comp when i can have such a solution |
| 06:51.58 | Stanlin | twiadpaws: then stick to the specifications and limitations on your hardware |
| 06:52.03 | twiadpaws | still why do wired connection work properly but wireless won't? |
| 06:52.05 | twiadpaws | i mean it's the same path |
| 06:52.25 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, sorry didn't mean to be an offence |
| 06:53.00 | twiadpaws | I'm just trying to get it solved using what i've got |
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| 06:54.39 | Mikaze | has a wireless printer connected to the Windows laptop and it blew trying to get it connected. |
| 06:55.25 | Isil`Zha | i would like to add that this socket file exists, seems to have the right rights and a local test ran successful |
| 06:55.32 | Stanlin | twiadpaws: i wont even bother, i use things like this: http://routerboard.com/comparison.html |
| 06:57.42 | Mikaze | jamz. Keep well, all... |
| 06:57.54 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, yeeeh it seemed like a good solution to me, for the little bit wireless i would have it used for |
| 06:57.56 | twiadpaws | cant understand how it is described as a router whereas it cannot even support all it's features |
| 06:57.56 | twiadpaws | its* |
| 06:58.55 | twiadpaws | ill be posting on their forum |
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| 06:59.46 | Stanlin | twiadpaws: you want to bridge, you can disable 1 wifi, and enable bridging in the other |
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| 07:00.05 | Stanlin | twiadpaws: looks for firmware |
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| 07:00.50 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, no that's not what i want |
| 07:01.05 | Stanlin | why exactly you need 2 networks? |
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| 07:02.26 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, i do not need two networks, the router doesnt even work when having set it up as a part of the first network |
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| 07:04.07 | ravi | hello there ! |
| 07:04.15 | ravi | How can i mute external amplifier? |
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| 07:04.34 | Stanlin | twiadpaws: why you need 2 routers? |
| 07:05.17 | twiadpaws | because the first one doesn't support wlan |
| 07:05.18 | twiadpaws | ? |
| 07:05.35 | Stanlin | and why you just use 1 router with Wifi |
| 07:05.59 | twiadpaws | huh? |
| 07:06.10 | twiadpaws | because the wlan-router isnt that rich in settings |
| 07:06.24 | twiadpaws | first router is a zyxel one, you know what that means ;) |
| 07:07.25 | Stanlin | then set the your Wifi as Bridge, voila!! |
| 07:07.33 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, sorry but the solution you suggest is like your os has a little error well set it up again |
| 07:07.36 | twiadpaws | well |
| 07:07.38 | twiadpaws | i tried to |
| 07:07.42 | twiadpaws | as i said |
| 07:07.44 | twiadpaws | once more |
| 07:07.46 | twiadpaws | wired = yes |
| 07:07.48 | twiadpaws | wireless = no |
| 07:07.52 | twiadpaws | why = don't know |
| 07:08.09 | hoxu | !enter |
| 07:08.09 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 07:08.20 | Stanlin | twiadpaws: buy a decent wifi router, then |
| 07:08.36 | twiadpaws | hoxu, yeh well thanx so many ppl speaking in here atm |
| 07:08.47 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, thanx for your solutions ;)))) |
| 07:09.00 | hoxu | twiadpaws, the channel being less active than usual does not give you an excuse to flood it with useless lines |
| 07:09.13 | Stanlin | twiadpaws: mine costs 20 dollars, i trashed 2 already |
| 07:09.23 | hoxu | ravi, alsamixer? |
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| 07:11.08 | ravi | hoxu, which option in alsamixer? |
| 07:11.22 | ravi | there is only Master option in alsamixer |
| 07:12.53 | Guerin | ravi: hit f4 |
| 07:13.19 | Guerin | sorry, f5 |
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| 07:13.23 | Guerin | so it's showing `all' |
| 07:13.49 | ravi | Guerin, shows Master & Capture now |
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| 07:14.56 | twiadpaws | hoxu, please stop it |
| 07:15.18 | tester_ | how can i erase my hard drive using the lenny installer disk? |
| 07:15.36 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, yeh, i think this is punishment for not having bought a zyxel one, hahahaha |
| 07:15.38 | Guerin | tester_: it'll give you the opportunity to do so in the `partitioning' stage |
| 07:15.43 | tester_ | i have a old install on the hard drive and its presence is causing the lenny installer problems |
| 07:16.08 | tester_ | Guerin: ive erased everything using the lenny partitioner to no avail |
| 07:16.18 | Guerin | tester_: use the expert boot flag. hit f1 at boot and it'll tell you how. |
| 07:16.48 | tester_ | you mean expert install? |
| 07:16.55 | Guerin | tester_: yes. |
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| 07:17.14 | Guerin | (it basically gives you lots of options and requires you to hit enter every 10 seconds) |
| 07:20.17 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, have you set up a linux machine with a wlan-adapter within? |
| 07:20.45 | tester_ | i dont see how this is different |
| 07:21.48 | Stanlin | twiadpaws: honestly i think printers, AP, routers, are disposable, i change them like toilet paper every year |
| 07:21.50 | tester_ | this is the same partitioner |
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| 07:22.01 | tester_ | its just taking a different way to boot it |
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| 07:22.56 | tester_ | is debian known for having problems installing over existing installations |
| 07:23.09 | Stanlin | twiadpaws: yeh, 1 wifi card, 1 network card |
| 07:24.15 | scientes | how can i cut off a ip for a second? |
| 07:24.44 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, does the wifi card work as an access point? |
| 07:24.56 | tester_ | anyone know how to erase a hard drive using the lenny installer? |
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| 07:25.20 | Stanlin | twiadpaws: yeah, you can configure as whatever you like |
| 07:25.50 | Stanlin | twiadpaws: ive connected 30 miles networks using wifi linux based |
| 07:26.07 | scientes | tester_, you want dban |
| 07:26.18 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, 30 miles??? |
| 07:26.22 | tester_ | is that included on the installer disk? |
| 07:26.27 | Stanlin | twiadpaws: yeh |
| 07:26.31 | scientes | no you download itseperate |
| 07:26.34 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, how? what for? |
| 07:26.43 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, sorry for being curious |
| 07:26.55 | scientes | its for fully deleting a harddrive |
| 07:27.11 | tester_ | i can download and install programs using the installer cd? |
| 07:27.12 | Stanlin | twiadpaws: to connect to office branches, at 50mbps |
| 07:27.12 | scientes | http://www.dban.org/ |
| 07:27.30 | scientes | tester_, but that may be not what you need, |
| 07:27.56 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, with one device you cover an area of 30 miles? |
| 07:27.58 | scientes | tester_, it will ask you what you want to install as part of the installer |
| 07:27.59 | tester_ | i cant believe i cant simply install debian over an old installation |
| 07:28.13 | scientes | tester_, yeah but be caresful if you want to safe something |
| 07:28.20 | Stanlin | twiadpaws: its directional antena, not omnidirectional, point to point called |
| 07:28.36 | Stanlin | Stanlin: altho omni supports until 5 miles around |
| 07:28.38 | scientes | tester_, it will delete everything if you want to, if you want to save your files you should have a seperate /home partition |
| 07:28.51 | tester_ | i dont know what to do |
| 07:29.02 | tester_ | i had lvm set up |
| 07:29.05 | scientes | tester_, wil you probably want your setings and files |
| 07:29.07 | \amethyst | tester_: yes, you can do that. scientes thought you meant to wipe all the partitions so there is no way someone could recover the data |
| 07:29.08 | tester_ | seperate root and home partitions |
| 07:29.24 | tester_ | i just wanted to reinstall the base system on the root partition and save the home one |
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| 07:29.41 | tester_ | but now i cant install or delete anything |
| 07:29.42 | tester_ | im like stuck |
| 07:29.44 | Livingroom | like a moron, i have forgotten how to format a partition in debian. |
| 07:29.51 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, what hardware does support that? |
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| 07:30.20 | Stanlin | twiadpaws: mikrotik.com |
| 07:30.39 | scientes | tester_, did you get to partitioning section? |
| 07:30.50 | tester_ | yes, thats where ive been stuck for the past hours |
| 07:31.00 | scientes | ok what does it say? |
| 07:31.17 | tester_ | it cannot create the partitions |
| 07:31.19 | scientes | does it see the partitions you have in lvm? |
| 07:31.25 | tester_ | yes it does |
| 07:31.25 | scientes | why? |
| 07:31.42 | scientes | you have to delete your system partition and then recreate it |
| 07:31.50 | tester_ | the console says it cannot create a filesystem because the device is in use by the system |
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| 07:32.02 | tester_ | i have deleted it |
| 07:32.09 | scientes | you should make a copy of your /etc/hosts resolv.conf fstab etc |
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| 07:32.18 | tester_ | i deleted the VG and the partition several times already |
| 07:32.19 | scientes | did you try rebooting? |
| 07:32.22 | tester_ | yes |
| 07:32.26 | tester_ | many times |
| 07:32.43 | scientes | try booting into your old distro and cleanly shutting down |
| 07:32.58 | scientes | its not deleted until you commit it to disk |
| 07:33.15 | tester_ | i cant. when i try to boot into the old system is says waiting for root fs then after a while busybox comes up |
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| 07:33.32 | scientes | well then you did delete it |
| 07:33.35 | lxsameer | hi , how can i make a unique repository from my debian dvd set. |
| 07:33.49 | scientes | what existing partitions does the installer show? |
| 07:33.52 | tester_ | ok but then when i try to install a new one i cant |
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| 07:33.59 | tester_ | bc it says the device is in use |
| 07:34.05 | bizkit | can i join the linux cult here? |
| 07:34.18 | scientes | does it still show the root partition and the /home partition? |
| 07:34.22 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, what have you paid for it? |
| 07:34.25 | tester_ | yes |
| 07:34.27 | twiadpaws | how much* |
| 07:34.32 | tester_ | in the partitioner |
| 07:34.34 | scientes | bizkit, debian is a great os to start on linux with |
| 07:34.59 | bizkit | scientes, i wouldnt know, i got my start on red hat :D |
| 07:35.01 | scientes | tester_, hmm, well i dont know much about lvm so im lost then, hopefully someone else can help |
| 07:35.30 | tester_ | haha the whole reason i went with lvm was bc i thought it would be easy to do stuff liek this |
| 07:35.54 | Stanlin | twiadpaws: well, mikrotik routers are equivalent to CISCO's, the NASA uses mikrotik, and ive paid, for 1 router, 300 dollars, same characteristics that Cisco's |
| 07:36.39 | scientes | tester_, i dont use it cause gparted doesnt work with it, which i like alot, what ive heard is that lvm is great but i just havnt used it |
| 07:36.51 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, so for 300 dollars you cover a network over a range of 30 miles? |
| 07:37.23 | scientes | tester_, boot into a live cd and see exactally whats there and what you can do |
| 07:37.48 | tester_ | ive tried that too lol |
| 07:37.55 | Stanlin | twiadpaws: that the router, the antenas are starting from 100 usd i think,, depends OMNI, DIRECTIONAL, SECTORIAL |
| 07:38.07 | scientes | damn |
| 07:38.10 | scientes | sucks |
| 07:38.21 | tester_ | none of the live cds will mount the vgs |
| 07:38.57 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, you didn't have to set up multiple access points connecting to each other though? |
| 07:39.01 | scientes | damn |
| 07:39.28 | Stanlin | twiadpaws: obviously, each node has their own hardware |
| 07:39.42 | Stanlin | twiadpaws: 24 DBI is good enough |
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| 07:40.08 | Stanlin | twiadpaws: tho i like 30 Dbi |
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| 07:40.21 | Stanlin | twiadpaws: your home antena is 5 Dbi probably |
| 07:40.47 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, i've completely no idea about dbi and antenas and stuff, but you just have one major access point to maintain? |
| 07:42.00 | twiadpaws | How it comes everyone is so leet using debian for work and huge projects and I'm just a lovely young man just about to finish his apprenticeship and running debian on a lovely little machine ;) |
| 07:42.23 | tester_ | is it true that i cannot install a filesystem on a mounted device? |
| 07:42.25 | x1250 | if I'm mounting a remote fs with sshfs, should I keep using rsync to make backups, or just packing into a tar.gz would do? |
| 07:42.36 | Stanlin | twiadpaws: i do use point-to-point |
| 07:42.37 | tester_ | that makes no sense, you dont mount a device, you mount a filesystem |
| 07:42.56 | tester_ | so if deleted my root fs, how can the device be in use? |
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| 07:43.13 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, does that make the difference? |
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| 07:43.29 | Stanlin | HELP!! i suck as home user, can anyone tell me why my Wifi WPA config stopped working?? it was ok yesterday |
| 07:43.51 | Stanlin | twiadpaws: yes, there is a huge difference between OMNI directional and Directional antenas |
| 07:43.58 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, you makin fun of me? ;) |
| 07:45.10 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, alright then, knowledge++; |
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| 07:46.15 | twiadpaws | i blamed buffalo for letting me buy their product |
| 07:46.18 | twiadpaws | haha |
| 07:48.29 | Stanlin | heh, thats why they are disposable products |
| 07:50.00 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, i could use such setup for having access to my home at work via wlan, hat you think? :))) |
| 07:50.52 | Livingroom | desu? |
| 07:51.11 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, what i forgot to ask, do you use this wlan-card-in-linux-setup at home? if you do so, what card do you use? |
| 07:51.29 | Stanlin | asus 520 works fine for me |
| 07:51.36 | Stanlin | just i hate WPA fails to much on debian |
| 07:52.14 | Stanlin | twiadpaws: i have 3 laptops with embeded wifi cards, which i cant recall the names |
| 07:52.31 | Stanlin | atheros |
| 07:52.35 | Stanlin | i think |
| 07:52.39 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, why would it fail? and, does it support wpa2, 300 mbp/s and is it affordable for me? ;) |
| 07:53.19 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, I can't help you with that, notice that I've been using debian for a month so far ;) |
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| 07:54.03 | Stanlin | twiadpaws: well ive connected to the wifi using WPA yesterday, but doesnt work today |
| 07:54.23 | Stanlin | twiadpaws: it connects if i disable the wpa |
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| 07:56.23 | charles^ | hello |
| 07:56.26 | charles^ | :) |
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| 07:56.43 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, haha, i got the same problem with the buffalo |
| 07:56.59 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, on ubuntu though |
| 07:57.03 | charles^ | i'm trying to download a debian live ISO (lenny, etch) from the official site and am having terrible trouble streaming the http download |
| 07:57.13 | charles^ | does anyone know of any mirrors for the ISOs |
| 07:57.15 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, not so different from debian though :b |
| 07:57.22 | charles^ | i have searched but with no luck |
| 07:57.28 | twiadpaws | Charitwo, try torrent |
| 07:57.30 | dutchfish | !tell charles^ about mirrors |
| 07:57.41 | twiadpaws | err |
| 07:57.42 | twiadpaws | charles |
| 07:57.54 | charles^ | twiadpaws |
| 07:57.56 | dutchfish | !apt-torrent |
| 07:57.59 | twiadpaws | Charitwo, work's pretty fine with max bandwith |
| 07:58.02 | Stanlin | twiadpaws: and how did you solve it? |
| 07:58.03 | twiadpaws | god damn |
| 07:58.04 | twiadpaws | charles |
| 07:58.11 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, I did not |
| 07:58.16 | twiadpaws | :) |
| 07:58.43 | Stanlin | twiadpaws: a dammit |
| 07:58.52 | charles^ | dutchfish: those mirrors were not for the live distro, though |
| 07:59.04 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, I have a monitor on the webinterface where i can see that authoration fails when using any encryption but wpa or less |
| 07:59.05 | dutchfish | charles^, ah ase c |
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| 08:00.46 | charles^ | i already have a debian-40r6 ISO |
| 08:00.52 | charles^ | it's the live dist that i want |
| 08:01.20 | charles^ | and cannot download from http://live.debian.net/ x.x |
| 08:01.52 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, you're not using diffrent charsets, are you? |
| 08:02.12 | Stanlin | no |
| 08:02.14 | Stanlin | eng |
| 08:02.32 | dutchfish | charles^, i checked and have a stream ~250kB/sec |
| 08:02.40 | charles^ | damn you |
| 08:02.41 | charles^ | lol |
| 08:02.55 | dutchfish | charles^, sorry cant help that either |
| 08:02.58 | charles^ | i get a similar stream but it drops to ~8 KB/sec |
| 08:03.14 | charles^ | i managed to download about 30 MB of a ~700 MB ISO and the connection just drops out |
| 08:03.15 | charles^ | lol |
| 08:03.18 | dutchfish | charles^, you sure your ISP dont CAP you? |
| 08:03.24 | charles^ | positive |
| 08:03.37 | charles^ | i have downloaded other nix isos (recently) |
| 08:04.56 | dutchfish | charles^, and you are sure you connected to 78.47.186.195 ? |
| 08:05.19 | charles^ | i'll double check |
| 08:05.21 | twiadpaws | he's being hacked ;) |
| 08:05.28 | charles^ | kek |
| 08:05.44 | dutchfish | charles^, are some proxy in between that messes up things? |
| 08:05.52 | scientes | how do i throttle back a single ip address? |
| 08:06.02 | dutchfish | !trickle |
| 08:06.02 | dpkg | somebody said trickle was a portable lightweight userspace bandwidth shaper. It can run in collaborative mode (together with trickled) or in stand alone mode. http://monkey.org/~marius/pages/?page=trickle |
| 08:06.04 | charles^ | no network proxy or any other proxy in use |
| 08:06.36 | scientes | does that work on a router? |
| 08:06.51 | scientes | for fowarding mode? |
| 08:07.06 | dutchfish | charles^, ok, check things like traceroute, bandwidth monitoring to other IPs etc etc, it isnt live.debian.net, that i am sure |
| 08:07.27 | twiadpaws | btw is it possible to sort files / folders by name found with the find command? |
| 08:08.02 | dutchfish | scientes, maybe conntrack along netfilter and the new QoS in the latest 2.6.28.2 kernel in a router setup |
| 08:08.17 | charles^ | hmm |
| 08:08.33 | charles^ | ip confirmed as 78.47.186.195 |
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| 08:08.33 | dutchfish | scientes, if you want to do it in userspace, there are others as well |
| 08:08.43 | dutchfish | charles^, ok |
| 08:08.45 | scientes | it happens that windows doesnt understand throttling or distrobution |
| 08:08.49 | scientes | kernelmode is fine |
| 08:08.55 | charles^ | i'm using a different browser too |
| 08:09.02 | charles^ | it's coming in at ~11 KB/s :( |
| 08:09.10 | dutchfish | charles^, try commmandland tool whet |
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| 08:09.16 | dutchfish | s/land/line |
| 08:09.22 | dutchfish | wget |
| 08:09.34 | dutchfish | charles^, sorry for my typos (stiff fingers) |
| 08:09.44 | charles^ | no worry |
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| 08:10.50 | rask330 | Hey guys. I have a bit of a weird problem with CUPS... I'm trying to use a printer that uses an RS232 port (Costar Labelwriter XL), but it only works if I chgrp /dev/ttyS0 to lp (otherwise gives an access denied error), even though the lp group is empty. Weirder still, cupsd is running as root. ...Anyone have any idea how I can give CUPS access to ttyS0 without changing its group? D: |
| 08:12.39 | scientes | mm i want to throttle now instead of reading all this and commiting a filewall |
| 08:15.41 | charles^ | ty for your help, dutch |
| 08:15.45 | charles^ | and ty to everyone else |
| 08:15.50 | charles^ | great chan. great people |
| 08:15.52 | dutchfish | scientes, buy a layer 3 switch (a good one) and put it in front |
| 08:15.52 | charles^ | :) |
| 08:16.15 | dutchfish | Charitwo, yw |
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| 08:16.16 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, when you have solved your problem, would you mind telling me what the problem was. i'm really interested in it |
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| 08:17.58 | Stanlin | twiadpaws: working on it |
| 08:18.10 | Stanlin | seems debian cant awake up the wifi , if i disable it |
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| 08:20.05 | dutchfish | Stanlin, twiadpaws if you disable wifi (by hardware switch) and toggle back on again, the only way to get it up again is by /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 08:20.11 | Matej__ | hi, I have newbie question - I trying to configure mailman (language settings) but I don't know how to comment in "en" - what's key to create * before I push Ok (enter) |
| 08:20.36 | Matej__ | (remote server) |
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| 08:21.51 | dutchfish | Matej__, you want to change your locale globaly? |
| 08:21.58 | Matej__ | yes. this also |
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| 08:22.12 | Stanlin | dutchfish: how to monitor the logs of a wifi card? |
| 08:22.14 | dutchfish | Matej__, dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 08:22.18 | Matej__ | yes, i know this |
| 08:22.20 | Matej__ | but |
| 08:22.24 | Matej__ | how to "confirm" |
| 08:22.47 | Matej__ | there's something like [] en_US |
| 08:22.55 | Matej__ | how to create [*] |
| 08:22.56 | dutchfish | Matej__, the ncurses screen will specificaly ask wich locale to use |
| 08:23.32 | dutchfish | MacGyverNL, by selecting them in the first screen (that is if the package locales is installed) |
| 08:23.33 | Matej__ | i can't find on keyboard proper button to create * |
| 08:24.05 | dutchfish | Matej__, ? numpad * ? |
| 08:24.11 | thasp | I'm trying to use madwifi with my atheros 5005g card and when I try to connect to an AP that my macbook can connect to, I get this. Link Quality=0/94 Signal level=-97 dBm Noise level=-97 dBm. This never happened with my pentium 3 with the same version of debian & madwifi, but it does on this amd64. Is there something I might be missing? |
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| 08:24.28 | dutchfish | Stanlin, i have to look it up a sec |
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| 08:25.38 | BlackZ | hi,i have a problem: when i power PC,the BIOS say to me that the boot master record has changed to UNIT-CD and ask me to fix this problem,i also yesterday had this problem,but i resetted the default settings of the BIOS,but i now have again this problem... what i do? |
| 08:25.40 | Matej__ | dutchfish right numpad doesn't work. neither shift + * |
| 08:25.56 | dutchfish | Matej__, then its not locales but some keyb setup |
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| 08:26.39 | BlackZ | i have no idea :( |
| 08:26.40 | Stanlin | dutchfish: ok |
| 08:26.50 | Matej__ | I doubt because here (on my side) it works, just can't comment in this on remote server dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 08:27.37 | dutchfish | Matej__, you could try dpkg-reconfigure console-data |
| 08:27.37 | Matej__ | if I type ordinary text it works |
| 08:27.38 | Matej__ | ok |
| 08:27.38 | Matej__ | i will try |
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| 08:28.05 | BlackZ | i should change from the BIOS settings? |
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| 08:28.40 | dutchfish | Stanlin, maybe something like grep "networkManager" /var/log/syslog is enough? |
| 08:29.05 | dutchfish | Stanlin, asuming you are indeed using NetworkManager |
| 08:29.32 | Stanlin | dutchfish: network manager doesnt support wpa |
| 08:29.58 | dutchfish | Stanlin, i run networkmanager along wpasuplicant just fine ....huhg? |
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| 08:30.45 | dutchfish | Stanlin, i have lenny 64bit latest with 2.6.28.2 (vanilla) because my card needs thta kernel, but the rest it pretty straightforward |
| 08:30.54 | Stanlin | dutchfish: can you paste your interfaces and supplicant config file, please |
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| 08:32.07 | dutchfish | Stanlin, myinterfaces is default (do dhcp for eth0) wired connection no stements for th ewireless |
| 08:32.30 | Stanlin | dutchfish: what about suplicant config file, please paste it |
| 08:32.49 | dutchfish | Stanlin, you want my if-up for wpa-suplicant |
| 08:32.53 | dutchfish | Stanlin, ? |
| 08:33.00 | Stanlin | yeah |
| 08:35.34 | dutchfish | Stanlin, http://debian.pastebin.com/m26302f4c |
| 08:35.38 | Stanlin | dutchfish: /etc/default/wpasupplicant |
| 08:36.28 | dutchfish | Stanlin, i dont use one |
| 08:36.44 | thasp | I think I'm screwed. :( |
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| 08:36.58 | thasp | madwifi won't work on the same card it worked on with my old mobo, in the new mobo |
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| 08:37.41 | coppercore | i'm feeling lucky, going to install kfreebsd |
| 08:37.41 | dutchfish | Stanlin, for you info i use INTTEL pro wireless 5100 AGN (Shiloh) |
| 08:37.42 | coppercore | :P |
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| 08:38.08 | dutchfish | Stanlin, on 100mbit |
| 08:38.33 | dutchfish | Stanlin, i need to install the firmware blob manually |
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| 08:39.26 | dutchfish | Stanlin, and i have compiled the driver from the latest intel sources |
| 08:39.55 | mmcji | how can i force an ethernet interface to come up at boot w/o either assigning the interface a static ip or setting the interface for dhcp? I have a virtual machine on my server I am using for my router. my WAN connection, connects to eth1 on my server. eth0 is my LAN side interface. I need eth1 to come up so when the vm starts it will see eth1 up and then be able to be assigned an IP address from my cable modem. |
| 08:40.40 | dutchfish | Stanlin, allow-hotplug next line iface eth0 inet dhcp |
| 08:40.54 | dutchfish | Stanlin, oops |
| 08:41.06 | dutchfish | mmcji, allow-hotplug eth0 next line iface eth0 inet dhcp |
| 08:41.42 | dutchfish | mmcji, the same for eth1 |
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| 08:42.31 | dutchfish | mmcji, you have prolly to setup a ppp connection with a hostname for the eth1 part |
| 08:43.31 | dutchfish | mmc, for the VM part it depends on WHAT vm i can help you with XEN, Qemu and KVM |
| 08:44.16 | cads | is there any specific package I ought to download to help me troubleshoot or configure my video hardware acceleration/ |
| 08:44.23 | mmcji | dutchfish: eth0 is statically assigned and is my LAN default gw, so if I set eth1 to (allow-hotplug eth1 next line iface inet dhcp) will that tell eth1 in the host os to get a dhcp address from my wan connection? I do not want the host os to do that. I am running vmware server 1.08 |
| 08:44.36 | mmcji | and by the way, thank you !! |
| 08:44.44 | dutchfish | cads, delve into /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 08:45.18 | n-iCe | O now I am tired |
| 08:45.33 | n-iCe | does anyone have connected a bluetooth headset to debian |
| 08:45.34 | n-iCe | ? |
| 08:45.41 | scientes | does tos work as well as qos? |
| 08:45.48 | scientes | tos seems better |
| 08:45.54 | dutchfish | mmcji, for thta you have to setup networking within vmware, i have no clue about that, because i hate vmware and use kvm with better performance or Xen |
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| 08:46.51 | mmcji | the vm part works great as does the router I am using pfsense, the problem I have been having is that the eth1 interface comes up but then goes back down before the vm starts. I will read about allow-hotplug. I have been wanting to move to xen, but I was under the impression It did ot work with bsd's well, and my router is pfsense. |
| 08:47.04 | cads | I remember going to terrible lengths to get video working right because in shitbuntu it tried to enable dri, but screwed it up.. |
| 08:47.14 | mmcji | from what I have seen of xen and how it is used on slicehost, it looks like it really rocks |
| 08:47.15 | dutchfish | scientes, it depends any many things 1. what kernel 2. what lan/wan 3. what proxy |
| 08:47.35 | cads | so I will wrangle up my old xorg.conf from the olde partition |
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| 08:47.55 | dutchfish | nods to mmcji |
| 08:48.23 | dutchfish | cads, using lenny? |
| 08:48.35 | cads | yeah |
| 08:48.57 | cads | what should i do to safely test an alternate xorg config? |
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| 08:49.15 | dutchfish | cads, what card (lspci) and is it 32 or 64 bit lenny? |
| 08:49.37 | cads | 32 bit, it's a laptop intel 815i or something |
| 08:50.03 | cads | sorry, 8ffGM |
| 08:50.10 | cads | 855GM* |
| 08:50.13 | Matej__ | no matter what I do, I cant confirm "egnlish" a go further http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/606/keypw9.jpg |
| 08:50.17 | dutchfish | cads, you have then to ad a oneliner telling xorg to use "Intel" it prolly defaults to Vesa mode righ tnow ( ihad the same) |
| 08:50.34 | Matej__ | stucked |
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| 08:51.02 | mmcji | off to do reboot to test new config |
| 08:51.08 | dutchfish | Matej__, is this a remote connection, and is your console logon ok? |
| 08:51.13 | Matej__ | yes |
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| 08:51.29 | Matej__ | otherwise * work well if I type ordinary text |
| 08:51.40 | Matej__ | it msut be some other key/combination |
| 08:51.44 | dutchfish | Matej__, maybe there is something on ~/.ssh setup wrongly ? |
| 08:51.57 | Matej__ | it's actually default installation |
| 08:52.05 | Matej__ | new system / no changes yes |
| 08:52.31 | dutchfish | Matej__, and you double checked that the base system is installed and ok? |
| 08:52.48 | Matej__ | yes |
| 08:53.16 | dutchfish | Matej__, maybe your remote is using UTF8 and you not? try to setup locales again and choose UTF8 |
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| 08:54.13 | Matej__ | i set up manually locale-gen as en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8 |
| 08:54.18 | cads | can apt be made concurrent? |
| 08:54.24 | dutchfish | Matej__, if you dont have a US keyboard you should reconfigure keyboard with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg on your host |
| 08:54.34 | Matej__ | hmm |
| 08:54.40 | Matej__ | yes, this might be issue |
| 08:54.50 | cads | so that it operates without locking the system when you do an installation |
| 08:54.55 | Matej__ | i will try |
| 08:54.57 | Matej__ | thanks |
| 08:56.02 | dutchfish | Matej__, yw |
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| 08:58.01 | dutchfish | cads, this is mine: http://debian.pastebin.com/m13f3d56a |
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| 09:00.37 | dutchfish | cads, also on another machine xorg doesnt recongnize my card and had to add the intel section also: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) |
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| 09:01.42 | sy_ | what will generate a DTD from xml for me ? |
| 09:01.57 | sy_ | i see commercial products for this |
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| 09:05.35 | dutchfish | sy_, i gues not in debian but maybe this helps a bit? http://saxon.sourceforge.net/dtdgen.html |
| 09:05.51 | cads | thanks dutch |
| 09:05.58 | dutchfish | cads, yw |
| 09:08.06 | scientes | how can i throttle a single ip range only |
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| 09:12.47 | thasp | http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 09:12.53 | thasp | why does the net install url always time out |
| 09:13.01 | thasp | why is it even there? |
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| 09:13.10 | thasp | err, 404 |
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| 09:14.40 | Livingroom | none of you could ever guess in a million years what i just did; but if you could, you'd win a billion dollars. |
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| 09:15.34 | dutchfish | thasp, those linkas are indeed not up 2 date ( less then 2 days prolly) go here http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/lenny_di_rc2/ |
| 09:15.56 | thasp | thanks |
| 09:16.05 | thasp | hopefully lenny will agree with this mobo + wifi card combination |
| 09:16.14 | gaintsura | I'm about to do a test install of debian... does debian include wvdial or similar? I connect to the internet via a ppp device. loaded up find out of ubuntu, but I want to be sure before I do anything.. and secondly.. I have ubuntu installed, can I (eventually) install debian over ubuntu with the same folder/partition structureas now and not lose very much? I have my /home and other important directories outside of / |
| 09:16.16 | thasp | if not I'll seek out a motherboard that doesn't have the word via on it |
| 09:16.27 | Livingroom | nobody going to guess then? you guys are no fun. |
| 09:18.39 | gaintsura | Livingroom: I'm going to guess that you either A) successfully installed debian, or B) destroyed it |
| 09:18.43 | dutchfish | gaintsura, make a backup and start from scratch |
| 09:19.03 | Livingroom | neither! woot! |
| 09:19.31 | Livingroom | i just typed in the cheat codes for my 9 year old sister to play Keen 4 in GOD mode on her netbook. in dosbox. |
| 09:19.40 | dutchfish | Livingroom, go play somewhere else, only debian related in here |
| 09:19.51 | Livingroom | her netbook is running debian :) |
| 09:19.55 | Livingroom | anyway. |
| 09:19.57 | Livingroom | bye |
| 09:19.58 | dutchfish | !offtopic |
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| 09:19.58 | dpkg | A little off-topic conversation is okay here and there, but not too much, and not when the channel's busy, and not if it's your primary reason for being here. please join #debian-offtopic |
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| 09:25.32 | gaintsura | dutchfish: ok, and as far as using the small cd and installing, does it have the wvdial or no? |
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| 09:26.18 | dutchfish | gaintsura, i am not sure about that but if i am not mistaken the net-install ones have |
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| 09:26.42 | dutchfish | gaintsura, the business card ones dont for sure |
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| 09:28.51 | dutchfish | gaintsura, otherwise you could donwload the packages with the depending ones manually and install them from an external source on the lfy |
| 09:28.58 | dutchfish | s/lfy/fly |
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| 09:29.29 | dutchfish | gaintsura, http://packages.debian.org/lenny/wvdial |
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| 09:32.15 | ribasushi | when one switched from runlevel X to runlevel Y - what exactly happens? rcY.d/K* and then rcY.d/S* ? or does something from rcX.d/ run too? |
| 09:32.43 | ribasushi | I know what K and S do, the order is what is unclear to me |
| 09:33.03 | gaintsura | dutchfish: thanks, I'll try.. I'm using the small net inst cds, not the business card ones, but the one above them |
| 09:34.25 | x1250 | how can I test if my internet access is ok? I was thinking about pinging google.com, with: ping -c 4 -w 4 -q 209.85.171.100, and then checking what the exit status was, but is there any better thing to do? |
| 09:34.48 | dutchfish | ribasushi, in sysv-rc the number in 02foo determines the start order for that particular runlevel in /etc/rcx.d/ |
| 09:35.06 | taomal | sometime back, when i connect my camcoder to the computer thro usb, i used to get a dir /media/sdb1 and through some sub-dirs, i can access them pictures. Now there is no more /media/sdb1 and i cannot access them pictures. have i missed out something? |
| 09:35.40 | dutchfish | ribasushi, and yes its cumulative in start order for runlevel -> runlevel |
| 09:36.43 | Polleke | x1250, internet access is a pretty broad term. Most people would for example include working name resolving in it too |
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| 09:37.38 | x1250 | Polleke, sure, well, ping then google.com |
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| 09:37.49 | twiadpaws | ribasushi, what's the difference between them? |
| 09:37.56 | x1250 | any comments on the issue? |
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| 09:38.41 | Polleke | x1250, it doesn't guarantee anything. But it's probably your best method. |
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| 09:39.04 | x1250 | Polleke, ok, thanks |
| 09:39.04 | dutchfish | x1250, it depends on what you want to check ie connectivity, bandwidth or latency |
| 09:39.22 | x1250 | dutchfish, just connectivity |
| 09:39.41 | dutchfish | x1250, then ping arping ghostping are your friends |
| 09:39.41 | ribasushi | dutchfish: this is not what I asked - does anything from rcX.d (where X is the old runlevel) run at all? |
| 09:40.00 | ribasushi | dutchfish: or everything happens in rcY.d (new runlevel number) |
| 09:40.20 | ribasushi | twiadpaws: I am not sure I understand |
| 09:40.27 | ribasushi | your question that is |
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| 09:41.21 | dutchfish | ribasushi, your system starts form runlevel to runlevel till the desired runlevel has been reached staring any (and sustaining them) until a stop script in the encountered runlevel is encountered |
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| 09:42.12 | ribasushi | hm... this makes even less sense |
| 09:42.16 | ribasushi | I'll just experiment I guess |
| 09:42.29 | dutchfish | ribasushi, so it depends on how your system starts for a headless machine this can be dif then for a graphical desktop |
| 09:42.46 | ribasushi | I am not talking about startup btw, I'm talking when the machine is running in level 2 (usual) |
| 09:42.53 | ribasushi | I type 'init 5' |
| 09:42.55 | ribasushi | what happens |
| 09:43.03 | dutchfish | ribasushi, then it starts all in run level 2 |
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| 09:44.02 | dutchfish | ribasushi, sorry if my non-native laguage is unclear read /usr/share/doc/sysv-rc/ the docs |
| 09:44.25 | dutchfish | !sysv |
| 09:44.25 | dpkg | somebody said sysv was dpkg --force-all --remove sysvinit && dpkg --force-all -i sysvinit && apt-get -f install |
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| 09:44.35 | dutchfish | nah forgat the dpkg sentence |
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| 09:45.46 | ribasushi | dutchfish: thanks for the pointer, it says exactly what I thought it is |
| 09:46.10 | ribasushi | dutchfish: http://pastebin.com/m9243b50 |
| 09:46.12 | dutchfish | ribasushi, oh ok then :) |
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| 09:46.28 | ribasushi | nothing runs from rc<oldrunlevel>.d |
| 09:47.15 | dutchfish | ribasushi, yep on switch it will run on stop scripts |
| 09:47.39 | dutchfish | ribasushi, K scripts |
| 09:48.10 | dutchfish | ribasushi, if they are there that is! ;) and that was my point |
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| 09:51.58 | thasp | dmesg shows the wrong wireless chipset when it loads ath5k. |
| 09:52.25 | thasp | [ 14.302123] ath5k phy0: Atheros AR2413 chip found (MAC: 0x78, PHY: 0x45) I have a 5005g. is this why my wireless isn't working? iwconfig can't connect to the same AP a macbook here can. |
| 09:52.35 | dutchfish | thasp, what does dmesg/lspci tells you and what kernel? |
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| 09:53.32 | thasp | dutchfish: http://pastebin.com/m14186908 |
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| 09:54.39 | dutchfish | thasp, at the top of my head you need latest ath9k |
| 09:55.15 | dutchfish | thasp, http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux%2Fkernel%2Fgit%2Fstable%2Flinux-2.6.28.y.git&a=search&h=HEAD&st=commit&s=atheros |
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| 09:55.45 | dutchfish | thasp, how old is this lappy or card? |
| 09:55.59 | thasp | the card is from early 07/late 06 dutchfish |
| 09:56.09 | thasp | I can be sure it's the AR5005G chipset |
| 09:56.20 | dutchfish | thasp, righty |
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| 09:56.58 | hoxu | twiadpaws, stop what? |
| 09:57.13 | dutchfish | thasp, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=414998 |
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| 09:58.20 | Livingroom | what package on the apt repo's has the "locate" command in it? |
| 09:58.26 | thasp | dutchfish, would acquiring ath9k require compiling a new kernel? also, is that the proper driver as I don't see 5005 listed on the ath9k compatible chipsets page? |
| 09:58.28 | thasp | thanks btw |
| 09:58.53 | dutchfish | thasp, not sure on that one, i think not |
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| 09:59.39 | dutchfish | thasp, what curent kernel? |
| 10:00.02 | thasp | it's the kernel that comes with the latest lenny netinstall cd, dutchfish. 2.6.26-1-amd64 |
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| 10:00.19 | dutchfish | thasp, then you need a firmware blob in place i gues |
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| 10:00.43 | coppercore | guys, think lenny is mature enough for me to get away with using it as production? or is that still not a Good Idea(TM) |
| 10:01.22 | Livingroom | what package contains the "locate" command? |
| 10:01.35 | thasp | apt-get install slocate, Livingroom? |
| 10:01.39 | coppercore | locate |
| 10:01.41 | coppercore | oh |
| 10:01.43 | coppercore | doh |
| 10:01.47 | dutchfish | coppercore, if you x-examine the big list for your installbase and its clean enough you might be, but if this is an exposed server better wait |
| 10:02.04 | dutchfish | s/big/bug |
| 10:02.14 | Livingroom | ty thasp |
| 10:02.33 | coppercore | it would be exposed, but i'm not going to do it to my primary server, it's a secondary |
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| 10:02.50 | dutchfish | coppercore, still, security, maurity first |
| 10:02.56 | coppercore | true... |
| 10:03.02 | dutchfish | s/maurity/maturity |
| 10:03.19 | coppercore | wow it's 5am |
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| 10:03.51 | dutchfish | coppercore, i always change till secuirty updates kicks in from debian |
| 10:04.05 | dutchfish | s/till/when |
| 10:04.33 | coppercore | that'll be a few more months' or is a release closer than i think? |
| 10:04.51 | coppercore | cause i thought i saw the RC word out somewhere :P |
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| 10:07.07 | dutchfish | thasp, you definitely need ath5k, did a check on one of my old lappies |
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| 10:07.40 | thasp | dutchfish, thanks. is there a way to make my current ath5k fail less? |
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| 10:08.14 | dutchfish | thasp, from what i have seen (googling) you ar enot alone strugling with this, it might be related to firmware blob |
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| 10:08.19 | thasp | madwifi worked on this card when it was in a slot 1 pentium 3 motherboard. in an amd64 motherboard, nothing seems to work. |
| 10:08.44 | thasp | ath5k works on 2.6.28, and not 2.6.26 on the p3, so I will try the new kernel. |
| 10:09.02 | dutchfish | thasp, if you really determined you could try 32 bit install, and check, but i know this one is a PITA |
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| 10:09.24 | thasp | I know it has to be related to either 64 bit, or the via chipset on this motherboard. via is bad stuff. |
| 10:09.30 | dutchfish | thasp, there has been many fixes in in 2.6.28.2 |
| 10:09.42 | thasp | ath5k was terrible in 2.6.26 IMHO |
| 10:09.52 | dutchfish | thasp, not only that ;) |
| 10:10.20 | dutchfish | thasp, had a fair share myself with 2.6.26 |
| 10:10.32 | thasp | dutchfish, even weirder, I have a broadcom card, that used the b43 driver. it couldn't connect with iwconfig, however, airodump-ng could find networks with it. it drove me crazy. |
| 10:10.46 | thasp | 2.6.26 is the pits :( |
| 10:11.07 | dutchfish | thasp, b43 is a mess atm .... shrugg .. for that 2.6.28.2 will help definitely |
| 10:11.37 | thasp | i have a card for both computers, I'm trying both back and forth in the linux machine just to experiment. I'm documenting this as I go incase someone else finds this handy |
| 10:11.43 | dutchfish | thasp, not to mention the bluetooth horror ... indeed th ebleuz |
| 10:12.02 | thasp | if my wife didn't mind wires. |
| 10:12.07 | thasp | i should make her compile 2.6.28.2 :( |
| 10:12.08 | dutchfish | ;) |
| 10:12.24 | thasp | that is only fair |
| 10:12.55 | dutchfish | thasp, is easy if you script it ;) |
| 10:13.07 | dutchfish | !kp-mantra |
| 10:13.08 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, kp mantra is make-kpkg clean ; export VER=$(date +'%Y%m%d') NAMEEXT="-$(hostname)-$(dpkg-architecture -qDEB_HOST_ARCH)"; make-kpkg --revision=$VER --append-to-version=$NAMEEXT --rootcmd fakeroot kernel_image modules_image . Add --initrd before kernel_image if you need an initrd. |
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| 10:19.19 | aifnord | K |
| 10:19.45 | aifnord | I was about to start installing the non-free nvidia drivers when I had a look at my xorg.conf, and it's suspiciously small |
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| 10:20.09 | aifnord | not counting comments, it's maybe 20-30 lines long |
| 10:20.21 | dutchfish | aifnord, that would about right in lenny |
| 10:20.47 | aifnord | dutchfish: is it supposed to autodetect everything or is there a "real" xorg.conf lurking somewhere? |
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| 10:21.10 | dutchfish | aifnord, yep, take a peak in your /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 10:22.00 | aifnord | I see |
| 10:22.01 | aifnord | thanks |
| 10:22.14 | hannes__ | hi, i currently have a limit of 3391 "allocated file descriptors" (cat /proc/sys/fs/file-nr) and i constantly get to that limit (lsof | wc -l, right?) what is the downside of allowing more? is there any downside? |
| 10:22.33 | coppercore | i don't believe there is |
| 10:22.38 | dutchfish | aifnord, and no thre is no xorg config lurking behind its kernel/hal/udev all the way for xorg |
| 10:22.39 | coppercore | more memory usage maybe? |
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| 10:22.51 | hannes__ | that would be no big deal :) |
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| 10:24.07 | dutchfish | hannes__, coppercore be aware that fooling with the kernel that way has it drawbacks depending what FS you use and if its using journaling |
| 10:24.50 | coppercore | i don't dive into the kernel quite as much as id say alot of you do in here, but thanks for the heads up :P |
| 10:25.16 | hannes__ | oh |
| 10:25.20 | hannes__ | ext3 mostly |
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| 10:26.15 | dutchfish | hannes__, install htop and or watch vmstat to find out whats causing this, for ext3 you might have to tweak it read its manpages if you use very large partitions or use a very large dir structure |
| 10:26.23 | aifnord | brb |
| 10:26.43 | coppercore | i <3 htop |
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| 10:27.07 | hannes__ | i know the cause for the high amount (many legal torrents) |
| 10:27.09 | hannes__ | thanks |
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| 10:27.47 | dutchfish | hannes__, maybe use noatim ;) |
| 10:27.47 | dutchfish | s/noatim/noatime |
| 10:28.00 | hannes__ | oh, that's a good idea |
| 10:28.04 | dutchfish | yw |
| 10:28.27 | hannes__ | i never (knowingly) need that actually, ha! |
| 10:28.35 | dutchfish | hannes__, 2nd use a dif partition for your share base |
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| 10:29.02 | hannes__ | it's a whole different harddisk than my system |
| 10:29.09 | dutchfish | hannes__, 3th xfs might do a better job on this |
| 10:29.11 | saintiss | hi all |
| 10:29.52 | saintiss | connecting to a certain website, iceape navigator says it can't verify the certificate... however I don't get this error with iceweasel... I assume iceape's certificate authority database is out of date or something, but how can I update this? |
| 10:29.56 | hannes__ | dutchfish: nah, i won't change the fs. but thanks |
| 10:30.05 | dutchfish | hannes__, ok, gl |
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| 10:35.54 | Stanlin | WPA works on debian |
| 10:36.11 | Stanlin | NEVER use nm-applet or nm gnome, they suck balls |
| 10:36.17 | Stanlin | do it manually |
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| 10:36.56 | dutchfish | Stanlin, not eveyone uses gone ;) |
| 10:37.01 | dutchfish | s/gone/gnome |
| 10:37.17 | Stanlin | dutchfish: what do you use |
| 10:37.39 | dutchfish | Stanlin, KDE and dont start aflame plz |
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| 10:38.25 | Stanlin | dutchfish: is kde superiort and fast than gnome? |
| 10:38.50 | woakan | a sandisk card is recognised as: SCSI device sdb: 3970048 512-byte hdwr sectors (2033 MB). do i need to install any package in order to be able to access it? |
| 10:38.55 | dutchfish | Stanlin, i dont know for your needs, but for me its much better, it depends on your needs |
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| 10:39.17 | Stanlin | dutchfish: what do you do |
| 10:39.31 | dutchfish | Stanlin, what do you need? |
| 10:40.07 | dutchfish | Stanlin, for me its developing stuff and sysadmin stuff mostly |
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| 10:41.44 | dutchfish | Stanlin, one year ago or so i used gnome, but with alot of gdm problems at that time i switched to kde i use both now, but tend to use kde more often |
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| 10:42.10 | Stanlin | dutchfish: is kde faster in atom? |
| 10:42.35 | dutchfish | Stanlin, atom? atm movies ? atom clock? what? |
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| 10:44.04 | dutchfish | Stanlin, kde/gnome are as fast as the underlying kernel and its configuration and th eknowledge of the admin to bend it to his needs |
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| 10:44.51 | thasp | i am keeping this kernel deb file |
| 10:44.58 | dutchfish | Stanlin, thre is not real speed gain actually, but some things (packages) are better suited for one or the other |
| 10:45.05 | dutchfish | thasp, ok |
| 10:45.07 | thasp | so I never have to do this again :X |
| 10:45.34 | thasp | this is better than the gateway essential 450, it took 8 hours to compile the kernel there :( |
| 10:46.08 | dutchfish | thasp, holy cow, that long? do they bits by tam-tam? |
| 10:46.23 | thasp | dutchfish I tried gentoo on it too |
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| 10:46.45 | thasp | i could read every line out loud as it scrolled by |
| 10:46.56 | dutchfish | lol |
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| 10:47.10 | thasp | also on my dell xps d233, that took 10 hours for a kernel |
| 10:47.11 | dutchfish | ok, guys i need to run now, my fameliy is waiting, catch you all later |
| 10:47.23 | thasp | this is your family :( |
| 10:47.36 | dutchfish | yeh yeh, i am back in 4 hours or so, gl |
| 10:47.45 | dutchfish | :) |
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| 10:59.27 | charonp1 | I'm trying to install rtl8180 for the 1799:701f wifi chipset. I have an AMD Turion64; I'm running 32bit; and the debian installer installed the 2.6.18-6-k7 kernel image. what backport 2.6.26-bp0.1-? kernel should I install? |
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| 11:01.12 | charonp1 | I'm thinking 686, but not sure if that is just for intel or is ok for amd |
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| 11:02.34 | charonp1 | 686 is k7 correct? |
| 11:02.57 | xand | 686 is pentium II and newer |
| 11:03.31 | xand | sorry, pentium pro and newer... K7 is 686 but not the other way round |
| 11:03.39 | bolder | high @all |
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| 11:04.29 | charonp1 | xand, so I'll actually loose a little performance using 686 |
| 11:04.55 | xand | potentially |
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| 11:04.59 | hellues | hey |
| 11:05.08 | hellues | how to open mvb file on debian |
| 11:05.13 | hellues | are there any plugin |
| 11:06.33 | charonp1 | alright, I'll just reboot and see what happens |
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| 11:08.21 | linomix | hellues: perhaps realplayer can |
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| 11:11.02 | charonp1 | why doesn't debian use 2.6.26? |
| 11:11.12 | charonp1 | by default i mean |
| 11:11.19 | thasp | because it's a mess and it sucks |
| 11:11.24 | Stanlin | coz is stable |
| 11:11.34 | thasp | 2.6.28.2 = good |
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| 11:11.38 | thasp | 2.6.26 = :( |
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| 11:12.04 | thasp | i tried to make a kernel .deb with kernel-package and got this http://pastebin.com/m21da34d4 |
| 11:12.10 | charonp1 | It comes with support for my wifi card "out of the box" |
| 11:12.34 | charonp1 | I rebooted and it loaded the right module automatically |
| 11:12.45 | thasp | do I have to recompile because of that |
| 11:15.13 | lostson | ls |
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| 11:17.44 | kantor | hi |
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| 11:17.52 | kantor | Makefile question: it is possible to use different CFLAGS setup for different targets in a makefile |
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| 11:18.45 | Stanlin | can somebody tell me what is the most economic laser printer in terms of ink ?? |
| 11:19.24 | charonp1 | well, that explains why I couldn't get it to work the last few times I tried debian, it's using 18 series kernel |
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| 11:20.10 | thasp | I changed permissions all over the place and still get this running kernel-package http://pastebin.com/m21da34d4 |
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| 11:25.02 | mindmedic | trying do download the testing-dvd from here via bittorrent http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/lenny_di_rc2/i386/bt-dvd/ , but I get the following response from the tracker ( http://bttracker.debian.org:6969/) : "Requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker." |
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| 11:31.36 | Ace2016_- | Hi al |
| 11:31.38 | Ace2016_- | l |
| 11:31.56 | Ace2016_- | anyone here using xorg from experimental? |
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| 11:35.32 | bolder | bbl |
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| 11:39.43 | PiousMinion | Hi, tried everywhere but here and am at about my wits end. Upon starting X I get the following error. Any ideas? --> xf86MapVidMem: Could not mmap framebuffer (0xf9400000,0x80000) (Invalid argument) |
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| 11:41.34 | Suzu | hello |
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| 11:45.05 | HiTeck | hi, i`m using debian, and i give this error : unzip: command not found. How can I unzip files? |
| 11:45.32 | Rawplayer | install unzip |
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| 11:46.11 | HiTeck | Rawplayer: from the terminal? |
| 11:46.35 | PiousMinion | Doesn't matter what tool you use to install the 'unzip' package. |
| 11:46.48 | PiousMinion | syanptic, apt-get, aptitude, etc |
| 11:47.13 | PiousMinion | synaptic* |
| 11:48.01 | HiTeck | PiousMinion: I`m a beginner in linux, This tools is in debian? |
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| 11:48.35 | x1250 | HiTeck, in a terminal, as root, aptitude install unzip |
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| 11:51.59 | amine | Hello , I administer some servers remotely (i dont have physical access) , what is the best solution (or software) to have the server auto-reboot in case a configuration goes wrong and ssh access lost (i admit it happens)? |
| 11:52.49 | HiTeck | i download unzip552.tar.gz , how install from the terminal? sorry but i begginer |
| 11:53.28 | PiousMinion | anime: What do you mean "configuration go wrong" and if ssh fails to function what makes you think the software you're looking for won't fail? |
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| 11:54.04 | PiousMinion | HiTeck: from the command line type this: apt-get install unzip |
| 11:54.11 | mindmedic | amine: how does ssh access get lost? |
| 11:54.13 | TauPan | Hi. From one backup to the next, my external eSata drive is not detected any more. Last kernel update was on January 19th, but it was detected successfully afterwards. I'm using debian unstable with 2.6.26-1-amd64 and an nforce chipset (sata_nv). |
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| 11:54.55 | HiTeck | Thank you all |
| 11:55.42 | PiousMinion | TauPan: /msg dpkg unstable |
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| 11:57.47 | TauPan | stable == stale, testing == completely unusable, unstable == usually know problems when I pay attention during package upgrade, and also this is a kernel problem |
| 11:58.02 | amine | mindmedic: I administer about 15 physical servers, and human error can happen (I just lost ssh access to one server now by ttrying to bridge an interface) .... so I had to contact my hoster who has to reboot the server..... Am looking for a soft that sort of "watchdogs" for server and reboots in case.... |
| 11:58.28 | amine | If there's nothing out there, I might program something... |
| 11:58.37 | PiousMinion | TauPan: testing is 'considerably' more stable than unstable. |
| 11:59.44 | pepperbob | amine: my hoster gives me the option to press the "reset" button via web |
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| 12:00.06 | amine | pepperbob: that's really interesting.... |
| 12:00.12 | TauPan | not in my experience... I had very severe problems with package upgrades in testing |
| 12:00.15 | PiousMinion | anime: You could write a script that sshes from the server to another location and asks that a return connection be made, if either fails have it reboot. Crazy idea if you don't find anything else. :P |
| 12:00.56 | pepperbob | amine: i mean in case of a kernel panic for example - no script or whatever would be able to reboot your server |
| 12:01.04 | PiousMinion | TauPan: experience has nothing to do with it. testing (currently) lenny is mostly frozen and close to being stable. unstable (sid) is an ever moving target with constant breakages. |
| 12:01.39 | amine | pepperbob: in case of kernel panic, that's clear |
| 12:01.50 | pepperbob | amine: and as there are lots of scenarios why you could lock out of your server i think it's not worth trying to catch that via a self-solution |
| 12:02.11 | TauPan | the changelog for the last kernel update mentions nothing about sata, there were only very minor changes |
| 12:02.25 | pepperbob | amine: but serious, i really wonder why your hoster won't let you reset remotely... |
| 12:02.26 | thasp | can I turn a bzimage file into a .deb with kernel-package without compiling the kernel again ? |
| 12:02.52 | amine | pepperbob: I am gonna ask him that |
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| 12:03.22 | PiousMinion | TauPan: I get the feeling you didn't msg dpkg about unstable. If you did, might want to give it another read. |
| 12:03.25 | mindmedic | amine: i can also restart using my hosters web interface ... however you can use a cron job to reset your server at given times/intervals .. activate it before you do things that may break your connection |
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| 12:03.54 | pepperbob | mindmedic: yeah sensible "work-around" |
| 12:04.05 | TauPan | It's amazing how much time and nerves you've already devoted to not answering my question. |
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| 12:04.37 | PiousMinion | TauPan: Would you have prefered "I don't know, but it's not supported here anyway so you're wasting everyone's time." ? |
| 12:04.38 | amine | mindmedic: nice idea too |
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| 12:04.52 | mindmedic | pepperbob: well i doubt one could write a program that "checks if something is wrong" |
| 12:05.15 | TauPan | would you prefer I install stable, test it, see that it doesn't work and come back here? |
| 12:05.20 | pepperbob | mindmedic: yup. but actually there are hardware watchdogs. but i assume those are quite expensive |
| 12:05.30 | TauPan | well, have a nice day :-D |
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| 12:05.44 | mindmedic | yeah but they always cover a certain area with their tests |
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| 12:05.47 | PiousMinion | TauPan: that would be great. |
| 12:06.04 | pepperbob | mindmedic: in fact there are software-watchdogs too.. but sure - kind of limited to specific problems. |
| 12:07.06 | FSX | Hey, I'm trying to get my wacom tablet working, but I have no ServerLayout in xorg.conf only some input devices. Can someone help me? |
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| 12:07.30 | thasp | whwere does etch keep grub.conf ? |
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| 12:09.11 | PiousMinion | thasp: you mean /boot/grub/menu.lst ? |
| 12:10.49 | thasp | yes that was it |
| 12:10.59 | thasp | i wish i could get kernel-package to make a .dev of this bzimage i have |
| 12:12.01 | PiousMinion | yeah, idk much about that. Did compilation take an unreasonably long time or something? |
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| 12:20.52 | Stanlin | what is a good app, to browse photos on cameras, vis usb? |
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| 12:21.51 | Zharf | Stanlin, gphoto2 or something that uses it such as kamera (I think) |
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| 12:38.25 | FSX_ | Hey, I'm trying to get my wacom tablet working, but I have no ServerLayout in xorg.conf only some input devices. Can someone help me? |
| 12:39.41 | amitz | Stanlin: to ext3? mkfs.ext3 or something along that line. |
| 12:39.47 | amitz | Stanlin: did it work? |
| 12:40.24 | amitz | Stanlin: specifically did you find any existing /etc/inetd.conf ? |
| 12:40.41 | Stanlin | amitz: works |
| 12:40.59 | amitz | Stanlin: cool, the vnc right? |
| 12:41.00 | Stanlin | amitz: i also succeded to use wpa on wifi, do not use nm-applet, |
| 12:41.09 | Stanlin | amitz: no, the vnc not yet |
| 12:41.21 | amitz | Stanlin: that's what I remembered too. |
| 12:42.20 | PiousMinion | FSX_: idk what a wacom tablet is, but I would try: X -configure |
| 12:42.26 | amitz | Stanlin: nm-applet screw something if using madwifi last time I checked. if you can't find inetd.conf, you can try installing xinetd package (or something like that). it will have /etc/xinetd.conf but I don't know the exact syntax of using xinetd instead of inetd. |
| 12:42.54 | FSX_ | PiousMinion, It's a Bamboo |
| 12:43.21 | PiousMinion | FSX_: that sounds even more alien to me than "wacom tablet" lol |
| 12:43.23 | Stanlin | amitz: yeah, nm-applet is the hell, now i cant remove it |
| 12:43.26 | amitz | Stanlin: but there were some google result in using xinetd. |
| 12:43.35 | Stanlin | amitz: ok im trying again with the vnc |
| 12:43.50 | FSX_ | PiousMinion, Hehe |
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| 12:44.03 | amitz | Stanlin: silly question, did you start and force-reload the openbsd-inet ? |
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| 12:44.11 | amitz | maybe it will generate /etc/inetd.conf ? |
| 12:44.49 | FSX_ | PiousMinion, X configure does not work. It says Server is already active for Display 0 |
| 12:45.25 | amitz | Stanlin: anyway, at the least, you can manually start xtightvncserver if I remember it right. but it's somewhat not pretty with the authorization and the like. |
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| 12:48.19 | amitz | I have a lenny installation in an external USB HDD (A). Booting directly to A is possible in a PC. But booting directly to A leads to "error 2" after stage 1.5 in Asus EEE PC. Google said I probably need to turn off UDMA but Asus EEE PC bios has no UDMA setting. Any idea? |
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| 12:49.08 | PiousMinion | FSX_: yes, you will have to kill X and run that from the commandline as root. |
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| 12:49.47 | FSX_ | PiousMinion, Ok |
| 12:50.20 | PiousMinion | FSX_: it will have instructions to test the config too. :) |
| 12:50.30 | FSX_ | PiousMinion, But do you perhaps know why my xorg.conf is almost empty? I somewhere read Xserver now does everything automaticly. |
| 12:50.52 | PiousMinion | FSX_: that is true. It's supposed to, but it's not perfect. |
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| 12:51.35 | FSX_ | PiousMinion, Oh ok. And with "X -configure" it writes everything to xorg.conf? |
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| 12:52.09 | FSX_ | PiousMinion, I'm only using debian or a week now. Still need to figure out stuff. Thanks for helping. :) |
| 12:52.37 | PiousMinion | FSX_: no, it writes everything to /root/xorg.conf.new. You use "X -config /root/xorg.conf.new" to test and replace old xorg.xonf if it gets the desired results. |
| 12:52.43 | PiousMinion | np. :) |
| 12:53.32 | FSX_ | Oh ok. :) |
| 12:54.41 | FSX_ | I'll try it now |
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| 13:02.42 | mike1o | I can't figure out why my ext hd cannot have normal user access ... here's the /etc/fstab relevant line "/dev/hdd1/media/ATAext3user,defaults00" |
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| 13:08.02 | LaUd | hi i want to try debian; i want to know which one to download? http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r6/i386/iso-cd/ |
| 13:08.22 | valdyn | mike1o: why would normal users have access ? |
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| 13:09.42 | PiousMinion | LaUd: I recommend this one. --> http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/lenny_di_rc2/i386/iso-cd/debian-testing-i386-netinst.iso |
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| 13:10.56 | LaUd | all these cds or files are the same right? even cd #1 #2 you can install them all in a machine. |
| 13:11.23 | LaUd | PiousMinion: the url was not found |
| 13:11.37 | lvh | LaUd: use CD1 or a netinstall |
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| 13:12.36 | PiousMinion | LaUd: I copied it from this page. go for the netinst. --> http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
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| 13:13.09 | asg | !ig |
| 13:13.09 | dpkg | I heard "ig" is Installation Guide...see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual for Etch 4.0r6 stable, or http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/installmanual for now oldstable Sarge (3.1). Lenny is Testing! |
| 13:13.20 | asg | LaUd: start by reading the ^^ |
| 13:13.52 | LaUd | thanks |
| 13:15.13 | adam | im strugle with bind and dlz with ldap, can somesone help me? someone know something about $-patch for bind in debian? |
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| 13:21.23 | maligor | I'm going to hit networkmanager with a very large signal soon... *grumble* |
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| 13:22.06 | PiousMinion | 'Tis irritating at times. |
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| 13:32.59 | matmo | how to upgrade from etchnhalf to lenny? Is it just a case of adding lenny sources and upgrading? |
| 13:33.27 | asg | same as a regular etch->lenny upgrade |
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| 13:34.01 | matmo | asg: and that would be? :-) |
| 13:34.09 | hoxu | !tell matmo about etch->lenny |
| 13:34.13 | hoxu | matmo, it's in the topic... |
| 13:34.49 | graytron | any recommendations for stable gfx drivers for Debian? |
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| 13:35.01 | maligor | mm.. why doesn't policykit accept passwords |
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| 13:35.25 | eanda_ | hello all. running deb-xfce but I don't have cddb acces. which packages do I need to install |
| 13:35.31 | matmo | hoxu: thanks |
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| 13:35.59 | graytron | im wondering what kind of graphics card i should get. i prefer stability |
| 13:36.23 | PiousMinion | eanda_: I don't understand the question. Applications use cddb to get info. What application are you using? |
| 13:36.44 | eanda_ | using VLC but no cddb acces |
| 13:37.03 | PiousMinion | graytron: I prefer ATI, but stay away from the newest cards in any case. |
| 13:37.06 | graytron | i'm not entirely happy with Matrox drivers + X hanging up my system whenever 3D acceleration is involved |
| 13:37.23 | eanda_ | PiousMinion, I thought maybe I'm missing something on the debian system side |
| 13:38.00 | graytron | PiousMinion: do you know about Sapphire's cards? |
| 13:38.12 | PiousMinion | eanda_: Wasn't aware that vlc did cddb, but I would look through it's preferences. IT may simply be disabled. |
| 13:38.20 | PiousMinion | graytron: never heard of them |
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| 13:38.52 | fonkaq | which package to install for scsi drive? |
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| 13:39.31 | PiousMinion | fonkaq: that question doesn't make any sense. |
| 13:40.14 | fonkaq | PiousMinion: if i want to make a scsi drive work, do i not need to install a debian package? |
| 13:40.19 | hoxu | fonkaq, I'm assuming you've plugged in a drive and it doesn't work? |
| 13:40.28 | eanda_ | PiousMinion, I did check the configuration, looks like everything is set correctly according to freedb how to's.. so I don't know where to look next |
| 13:40.37 | PiousMinion | fonkaq: you don't need to install anything to use a scsi drive. |
| 13:40.52 | fonkaq | hoxu: actually, it is a microdisk which is detected as a scsi device. |
| 13:40.58 | hoxu | fonkaq, you need support in your kernel for the hardware you have, debian kernel should be good for most stuff |
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| 13:41.13 | hoxu | fonkaq, does "fdisk -l" list it? |
| 13:41.30 | PiousMinion | eanda_: one would think that if support wasn't installed that enableing it in the prefs wouldn't be an option. I would do a "apt-cache search cddb" to see if there's anything that jumps out at you. |
| 13:41.53 | maligor | weird.. policykit just can't identify passwords for some reason |
| 13:41.59 | maligor | or pam rather |
| 13:42.24 | PiousMinion | graytron: ahhh, --> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapphire_Technology |
| 13:43.16 | eanda_ | PiousMinion, thanks |
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| 13:43.52 | fonkaq | hoxu: its a sandisk 2G card. syslog gives "sd 5:0:0:0: Attached scsi removable disk sdb". but i can't access it. |
| 13:44.14 | hoxu | fonkaq, what does "fdisk -l /dev/sdb" say? |
| 13:44.22 | hoxu | /msg dpkg paste |
| 13:45.20 | fonkaq | hoxu: /dev/sdb1 * 1 2421 1984899+ 4 FAT16 <32M |
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| 13:46.00 | hoxu | fonkaq, so mount /dev/sdb1 somewhere, you may want to look at usbmount and "/msg dpkg vfatrw" |
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| 13:46.24 | fonkaq | hoxu: miss out this: Disk /dev/sdb: 2032 MB, 2032664576 bytes |
| 13:46.26 | fonkaq | 41 heads, 40 sectors/track, 2420 cylinders |
| 13:46.27 | fonkaq | Units = cylinders of 1640 * 512 = 839680 bytes |
| 13:46.29 | fonkaq | Disk identifier: 0x00000000 |
| 13:47.16 | fonkaq | hoxu: can't i just use mount? |
| 13:47.25 | hoxu | fonkaq, yes |
| 13:47.38 | fonkaq | hoxu: will give a try now. |
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| 13:49.33 | sk4 | ifc |
| 13:49.41 | fonkaq | hoxu: mount does not recognise type fat16. |
| 13:49.50 | hoxu | fonkaq, try -t vfat |
| 13:50.34 | fonkaq | hoxu: won't take that either. |
| 13:50.48 | hoxu | the error? |
| 13:51.03 | fonkaq | hoxu: mount: unknown filesystem type 'vfat16' |
| 13:51.26 | fonkaq | sorry, vfat is ok. |
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| 13:52.28 | fonkaq | hoxu: works, thks. so, no need usbmount. |
| 13:52.59 | hoxu | usbmount is for automatically mounting mass storage devices |
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| 13:56.08 | frog_ | hi, when i wanna add a module to my kernwl, should i compile the kernel on my own? or is there any trick to do it in any other way? |
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| 13:56.52 | hoxu | frog_, debian stock kernels should have most modules you need, but if you need a custom kernel, /msg dpkg make-kpkg |
| 13:57.06 | nvz | I am trying to play a dvd with VLC on lenny and it just acts like its playing then stops with no error, when ran from console it says "nothing to play" |
| 13:57.07 | matmo | hoxu: re upgrade to lenny, I'm up to "aptitude safe-upgrade" but wondering if it would be quicker/safer to do a clean install? |
| 13:58.20 | hoxu | matmo, probably not |
| 13:58.48 | frog_ | hoxu: thank you |
| 13:58.59 | nvz | anyone have any suggestions on how to play a dvd? I've been just rebooting to windows to do it.. but I'd really rather figure out how to do it on lenny |
| 13:59.15 | matmo | ok, I will leave it running and see what happens |
| 13:59.22 | nvz | on etch I usually needed libdvdcss which doesn't seem to be in lenny |
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| 14:00.57 | matmo | hoxu: now getting 256M of archives, phew, glad I started this on a Sunday :-) |
| 14:01.22 | nvz | xine seems to be retarded when it comes to dvds.. vlc always just worked until I started using lenny |
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| 14:03.14 | themill | nvz: xine + stuff from dmm works fine here with lenny |
| 14:03.59 | nvz | well xine says it doesn't understand me when I tell it to play the dvd, totem says it can't connect to hal, vlc says nothing unless ran from terminal then it says nothing to play, and mplayer plays it but it seems to keep pausing making a choppy audio and the video window stays black |
| 14:04.29 | nvz | I just hate having to use windows |
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| 14:05.00 | themill | !dvd playback |
| 14:05.00 | dpkg | To play DVDs, you need some media playing software (ask me about <dvd> for some suggestions on viewers). You will also need libdvdcss2 libdvdnav4 libdvdread3 w32codecs some of which are in <debian-multimedia.org> (see <libdvdcss> <w32codecs>). You will also need to set a region on your dvd player if you have never done so before using regionset. Also ask me about <dvd playback troubleshooting>. |
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| 14:06.27 | nvz | libdvdcss2 is the only one I don't have but usually if thats the problem it says so |
| 14:06.42 | nvz | its not giving any errors about encryption |
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| 14:07.59 | nvz | no change after installing libdvdcss2 |
| 14:08.31 | nvz | ah wait.. restarted VLC and seen the menu screen for like 1 second |
| 14:08.35 | themill | Black screen normally means that X is unhappy about the way you're trying to display the image, e.g. xv extension not installed or similar |
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| 14:08.55 | themill | Given the number of changes in xorg from etch to lenny, that would be a place to look |
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| 14:09.55 | nvz | idk its working now |
| 14:10.06 | nvz | think there still needs to be a bug filed somewhere |
| 14:10.28 | nvz | these players used to throw a dialog if the encryption library wasnt there when reading an encrypted dvd |
| 14:11.49 | nvz | I knew it wasn't there but didn't think it was the problem cause there was no error and one of the players seemed to be reading it |
| 14:12.58 | nvz | I'm savvy with debian but not with dvd technology.. and I had a bit of a problem trying to do this. |
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| 14:14.35 | eptalon | heyas |
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| 14:17.11 | nvz | I'm having a new found respect for widescreen dvds |
| 14:18.09 | nvz | not only did I realize some time ago it adds some perspective, but its handy when you don't have a widescreen on your laptop and wanna irc and watch a movie |
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| 14:18.21 | nvz | leaves me about 15 lines unused |
| 14:19.31 | amitz1 | in lenny, is the session from login using xdmcp chooser will be automatically encrypted? |
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| 14:20.13 | FSX | Is it safe to update xserver-xorg-core to experimental? |
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| 14:20.37 | eptalon | in the sid version of iceweasel, the "google search" stopped working a few days ago? |
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| 14:20.43 | abrotman | FSX: depends on you, and your definition of safe |
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| 14:21.17 | amitz1 | abrotman: does anybody actually run sid in daily life? |
| 14:21.26 | FSX | abrotman, I probably need it to get my tablet working. |
| 14:21.49 | nvz | I did at one time |
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| 14:22.06 | nvz | then became more interested in things working day to day than testing the software |
| 14:22.10 | amitz1 | concerning xdmcp chooser, I asked it because in the session choice, there is now something called "secure remote login" unlike in etch |
| 14:22.53 | abrotman | FSX: a wacom ? |
| 14:22.54 | amitz1 | nvz: so it breaks too often compared to your comfort zone? |
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| 14:23.07 | FSX | abrotman, Yes |
| 14:23.11 | abrotman | amitz1: lots of people do, but they're people that know what to do when it all breaks |
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| 14:23.30 | nvz | amitz1: once is often enough when you're trying to do something |
| 14:23.31 | eptalon | how, btw, whats the apt-get line for the buildserver, and for the "restricte-dcontent multimedia" (like dvdcss?) |
| 14:23.49 | nvz | amitz1: I'm all for weird problems when I got the time |
| 14:23.57 | amitz1 | nvz: i see. |
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| 14:24.15 | FSX | abrotman, I found this error in the log "module ABI major version (0) doesn't match the server's version (2)" |
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| 14:24.46 | nvz | amitz1: when you're late and you just want a f'n song to play in the car and suddenly your sync software doesnt work.. yeah its annoyin |
| 14:24.55 | abrotman | FSX: did you try just getting the wacom driver? |
| 14:25.09 | abrotman | FSX: did you check the BTS for the wacom driver? |
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| 14:25.18 | FSX | abrotman, Yes, I installed it |
| 14:25.27 | FSX | abrotman, BTS? |
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| 14:25.43 | nvz | famous last words |
| 14:26.05 | zeb | hello,i want reset a programm by default settings,not with my changes,what is command for uninstall and resetting? |
| 14:26.22 | Polleke | zeb, depends on the program |
| 14:26.53 | abrotman | FSX: bugs.debian.org/pkgname |
| 14:26.53 | FSX | abrotman, The driver doesn't load because of the error I showed you. |
| 14:27.03 | Polleke | zeb, common practice is a directory in your home dir. Check if you see it with: ls -a ~ |
| 14:27.07 | abrotman | FSX: and you're running lenny? |
| 14:27.10 | FSX | Yes |
| 14:27.13 | zeb | programm of the repository,as amule,amsn |
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| 14:28.07 | abrotman | FSX: sounds like something is out of date |
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| 14:28.14 | Polleke | zeb, sorry, I don't follow you. You are compiling repositories from amule and amsn? |
| 14:28.16 | FSX | abrotman, I found something like that too. |
| 14:28.37 | abrotman | FSX: i mean in your packages |
| 14:28.41 | abrotman | or you compiled something |
| 14:28.44 | amitz1 | FSx: sometimes it's better to delete your xorg.conf first and let xserver configure itself, but don't forget to backup that xorg.conf |
| 14:28.54 | zeb | nope |
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| 14:29.05 | abrotman | a new xorg isn't likely to help an ABI issue |
| 14:29.12 | zeb | i use binary |
| 14:29.40 | akina | hi! is there a way to execute "vlc" in command line inside kde which will not show the vlc interface |
| 14:29.45 | FSX | I configured xorg.conf today without problems. |
| 14:29.47 | Polleke | zeb, of what? |
| 14:29.59 | FSX | It's just that the driver won't load. |
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| 14:30.21 | zeb | of all programm |
| 14:30.50 | Polleke | zeb, you're not making any sense |
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| 14:32.53 | zeb | Polleke: if i want reset settings of program as amule after i've added new server or others,or resetting xchat settings initial,what command? |
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| 14:33.39 | zeb | rm -rf .dir in home? |
| 14:33.50 | Polleke | zeb, there is no general way to do that. It depends on the program. I'm pretty sure xchat stores it's settings in ~/.xchat |
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| 14:34.13 | nvz | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:34.24 | nvz | near the bottom see the skinnable and wxwidgets options |
| 14:34.28 | zeb | ok |
| 14:34.42 | nvz | find a mode that suits your needs |
| 14:34.45 | gentlyninja | is the testing-weekly build CD1 maybe broken? i tried to burn it twice once on dvd and once as cd but both times the installation broke up because the basefiles.deb package was broken. |
| 14:34.54 | gentlyninja | md5sum of the iso is same |
| 14:34.55 | akina | nvs: thanks |
| 14:34.57 | Polleke | zeb, yes, I think. rm -rf ~/.xchat will work. But you need to check that |
| 14:35.07 | abrotman | -f is not needed |
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| 14:35.23 | abrotman | gentlyninja: it's possible .. tried the netinst ? |
| 14:35.27 | Polleke | abrotman, habbit |
| 14:35.38 | gentlyninja | abrotman, is there a netinst for testing? |
| 14:35.41 | abrotman | not a good one |
| 14:35.54 | abrotman | gentlyninja: yes .. debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ ... rc2 came out yesterday |
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| 14:36.55 | Armand | hi, i have a problem, i tried to install the gtk2.10, now i cannot access the graphic interface, could somebody help me? |
| 14:37.25 | nvz | Armand: your problem seems to be explaining problems to me |
| 14:38.06 | gentlyninja | abrotman, i get 404 page error when clicking to the i386 netinst download |
| 14:38.11 | nvz | Armand: what distro are you using, and what do you mean by cannot access the graphic interface? as in what were you seeing, what aren't you seeing.. and also elaborate on install gtk2.10 |
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| 14:38.17 | gentlyninja | http://gensho.acc.umu.se/cdimage/lenny_di_rc2/i386/iso-cd/debian-testing-i386-netinst.iso |
| 14:38.21 | abrotman | gentlyninja: eh? |
| 14:38.45 | Armand | i downloaded the gtk2.10, unpack it into my /home then i tried to overwrite the /usr/lib and /usr/share, then i cannnot startx |
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| 14:39.07 | gentlyninja | the netinst link is broken |
| 14:39.22 | Armand | and im using etch |
| 14:39.34 | abrotman | Armand: why whould you do something so silly? |
| 14:39.39 | abrotman | Armand: enjoy the broken bits |
| 14:39.44 | Armand | to run firefox3 |
| 14:39.47 | Polleke | Armand, that sounds pretty nasty. What do you mean by overwrite |
| 14:39.50 | nvz | Armand: hah, gee I wonder why |
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| 14:40.24 | Armand | Polleke: cp /home/armand/gtk2.10/* / |
| 14:40.25 | abrotman | gentlyninja: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/i386/iso-cd/ |
| 14:40.37 | abrotman | Armand: you likely just broke the whole system |
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| 14:40.49 | abrotman | Armand: didn't we tell you yesterday not to do that ? |
| 14:40.53 | Armand | it cannot be fixed? |
| 14:41.19 | nvz | Armand: if you can't even explain what you did well enough you can't fix it |
| 14:41.26 | Polleke | Armand, it can... theoretically |
| 14:41.34 | nvz | Armand: best hope you have is to examine your shell history to see what you did |
| 14:41.40 | nvz | then reinstall some packages |
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| 14:42.44 | Pred2k5 | hi, what terminal does debian use? |
| 14:42.53 | abrotman | where? |
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| 14:43.15 | nvz | which ever you install |
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| 14:43.24 | FSX | Someone knows what this means?: "(EE) module ABI major version (0) doesn't match the server's version (2)" |
| 14:43.26 | Armand | how can i see that? |
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| 14:43.46 | nvz | ~/.bash_history |
| 14:45.17 | zeb | Polleke: or also dpkg -purge xchat? |
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| 14:46.31 | abrotman | zeb: that won't remove your settings |
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| 14:48.33 | Quazar | Hi all, can someone tell me what this error means. |
| 14:48.34 | Quazar | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:48.36 | Armand | nvz: it doesnt say the gtk thing |
| 14:48.53 | nvz | Armand: no crap, it would say what you did |
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| 14:49.08 | nvz | Armand: and you probably need to be looking at the one in /root/ not in your home dir |
| 14:49.28 | Stanlin | help!! how to add the resolution of the screen, i have by default 1024x600 , i would like 1024x800 |
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| 14:50.16 | nvz | Armand: unless of course you did something really stupid like running a graphical filemanager as root |
| 14:50.26 | Quazar | Anyone? |
| 14:50.26 | themill | nvz: presuming the shell was exited correctly so that the history was actually saved. And if the terminal were installed through tasksel say at install time, then it wouldn't be in the bash history at all |
| 14:50.28 | nvz | then you might as well go reinstall or shoot yourself in the foot |
| 14:50.48 | hekatomb | didn't he already? |
| 14:50.51 | nvz | the latter won't help.. but at least it will let people know how stupid you really are and they may stop you from doinf stupid things in the future |
| 14:51.00 | themill | nvz: or maybe I'm not sure what question you're answering... nm |
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| 14:51.33 | nvz | themill: he said he overwritten /usr/lib or something.. trying to manually install a gtk upgrade for god knows what reason |
| 14:51.50 | nvz | themill: best case scenario he has a log of the damage done |
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| 14:51.50 | themill | nvz: oh, we're not back there again are we? |
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| 14:51.57 | dancor | how can i obtain the source for the console-tools package on lenny on amd64 |
| 14:52.58 | asg | dancor: man apt-get ; /source |
| 14:52.59 | dancor | ah, looks like i found it at http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/c/console-tools/console-tools_0.2.3dbs-65.1.tar.gz |
| 14:53.12 | Stanlin | !resolution |
| 14:53.12 | dpkg | i guess resolution is How fine the pixels are. The higher the resolution, the more pixels that can be squeezed onto a screen, thereby giving the appearance that the pictures on your screen are smaller without losing any detail. Because the pictures are smaller you now have room to place more on your screen.. Use ctrl-alt-numpad_plus/minus to change it. Or /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, or man xrandr, or see hwinfo, or ask me about drxx |
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| 14:54.23 | abrotman | !tell dancor about source |
| 14:55.12 | Stanlin | !drxx |
| 14:55.12 | dpkg | To reconfigure your X server, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as root; this will overwrite your xorg.conf but your old file will be backed up. If you're not using Xorg (sarge or earlier) ask me about <sarge->etch>. From lenny onwards, most of these settings are configured by your desktop environment or with <xrandr>. You can still make a minimalist /etc/X11/xorg.conf, however, using the output of X -configure as a template. |
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| 14:55.41 | abrotman | Stanlin: /msg dpkg foo |
| 14:56.33 | Armand | nvz: i think offenses are not necesary |
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| 14:57.05 | nvz | what else is there but defence? |
| 14:57.09 | Pred2k5 | whats the standard terminal type? vt102? |
| 14:57.17 | nvz | and why would I defend the behavior that got you into this mess |
| 14:57.21 | abrotman | Pred2k5: echo $TERM ? |
| 14:57.32 | Armand | anyway, offenses are not necesary |
| 14:58.04 | Pred2k5 | hm xterm.. |
| 14:58.25 | Stanlin | abrotman how to add the resolution of the screen, i have by default 1024x600 , i would like 1024x800 |
| 14:58.37 | abrotman | Stanlin: which version of debian ? |
| 14:58.44 | Stanlin | abrotman: lenny gnome |
| 14:59.03 | Stanlin | abrotman: 5i think |
| 14:59.05 | abrotman | Stanlin: X -configure perhaps |
| 14:59.18 | abrotman | or try xrandr to see if ti's even availab |
| 14:59.19 | abrotman | le |
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| 15:00.14 | Pred2k5 | I need the DEC VT102 control sequences, but I cant find them anywhere.. |
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| 15:02.28 | jelly-home | Pred2k5: http://vt100.net/docs/vt102-ug/ ? |
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| 15:03.26 | garu | hi everyone |
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| 15:05.32 | Stanlin | abrotman: i get an error book:~# X -configure Fatal server error:erver is already active fordisplay 0If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock |
| 15:06.59 | abrotman | Stanlin: can't configure X while it's running |
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| 15:09.23 | gravity | startx -- :1 is great for testing new configs without quitting |
| 15:09.26 | Stanlin | abrotman: dpkg-reconfigure doesnt show any options for xorg |
| 15:09.31 | gravity | (you'll want to go to console to do it though) |
| 15:09.45 | garu | can someone tell me how do I change the domain name on my debian server? |
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| 15:11.46 | gravity | garu: You mean the hostname? |
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| 15:13.09 | garu | gravity nope...the domain name...when I installed debian etch, I was asked to give a hostname and a domain name for my server.I gave the hostname allright, but I gave a wrong domain name, because I need it to be in upper case letters |
| 15:13.24 | asg | garu: edit /etc/hosts |
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| 15:14.56 | garu | asg ok, will do that...thanks |
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| 15:17.54 | rajeshsr | hi, my sound system doesn't work in linux, though it works in solaris. I checked with alsamixer, i am not able to see anything wrong. |
| 15:18.11 | rajeshsr | Can anyone tell me what the problem could be? |
| 15:19.04 | hekatomb | rajeshsr: run speaker-test -t wav -c2 - any error? |
| 15:19.43 | rajeshsr | no errors! |
| 15:19.58 | hekatomb | unmuted? |
| 15:20.18 | rajeshsr | hekatomb, in alsamixer am not able to see anything as muted. |
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| 15:21.03 | rajeshsr | But am not able to see any icon on the top right corner of my gnome dektope, that would give me access to audio things. |
| 15:21.07 | hekatomb | rajeshsr: cat /proc/asound/cards - only one? |
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| 15:21.31 | garu | asg how do I check my hostname and domain name from the terminal? |
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| 15:21.37 | rajeshsr | 0 [SB ]: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB |
| 15:21.37 | rajeshsr | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:21.49 | rajeshsr | hekatomb, thats is what i see.. |
| 15:22.45 | hekatomb | rajeshsr: fuser -v /dev/snd/* /dev/dsp* - no intervening layer like esd/arts or such? |
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| 15:23.26 | eptalon | hello |
| 15:23.34 | Goethhe | Why does VSFTPD adds a user called ftp to my system? |
| 15:23.39 | Stanlin | !intel video |
| 15:23.53 | eptalon | How would I get kernel 2.6.28 images for debian sid? |
| 15:23.55 | abrotman | Stanlin: MSG THE BOT |
| 15:24.09 | abrotman | eptalon: make your own |
| 15:24.09 | Stanlin | !abrotman ok i will |
| 15:24.16 | asg | garu: hostname --fqdn |
| 15:24.23 | Stanlin | jezz this netbook |
| 15:24.25 | eptalon | abrotman: don't the buildservers do that? |
| 15:24.30 | Stanlin | i cant get used to the keyb yet |
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| 15:25.11 | garu | asg thanks alot ;) |
| 15:25.17 | asg | garu: you're welcome |
| 15:25.24 | doudou | I installed epiphany-browser, the home page is debian, so i tried to acheive some old attempt: http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst#netboot |
| 15:25.50 | abrotman | !fr |
| 15:25.50 | dpkg | Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr sur irc.oftc.net. French users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on irc.oftc.net. |
| 15:25.52 | rajeshsr | hekatomb, artsd is there. |
| 15:26.02 | doudou | so from here i try Tiny CDs, floppy disks, USB sticks, etc, click on i386, i dont want any details |
| 15:26.14 | doudou | http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/main/installer-i386/current/images/ |
| 15:26.28 | hekatomb | rajeshsr: so either disable artsd or make your apps output to artsd |
| 15:26.31 | doudou | that where i landed, crazy is not it? |
| 15:26.38 | abrotman | !fr |
| 15:26.38 | dpkg | Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr sur irc.oftc.net. French users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on irc.oftc.net. |
| 15:27.38 | doudou | cdrom floppy gtk-miniiso hd-media netboot ... MANIFEST ... udeb.list ... |
| 15:27.41 | frog | is there base ( Basic Analysis and Security Engine) available through aptitude? |
| 15:27.46 | doudou | CRAZY thats sure |
| 15:28.08 | abrotman | doudou: i think you want to go to #debian-fr |
| 15:28.20 | Stanlin | !msg boot 945GM/ |
| 15:28.23 | asg | why don't you just read the installation guide. It'll tell you what to get for whatever method you want to use to install |
| 15:28.28 | abrotman | Stanlin: /msg dpkg foo |
| 15:28.30 | abrotman | why is that hard? |
| 15:28.37 | Stanlin | whgat is the name fo the boot |
| 15:28.42 | abrotman | !tell Stanlin about msg the bot |
| 15:28.45 | garu | asg just something else...I'v got the loopback address as the ip addresses of the localhost and the domain name...shouldnt it be my router's ip address? |
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| 15:29.01 | doudou | for the ones who likes links http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual, that will bring you after a nice toor back to where you come : Tiny CDs, floppy disks, USB sticks, etc |
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| 15:29.44 | Akuw | is ther a software to capture screen in swf ? |
| 15:29.51 | doudou | abrotman, i think you should try to understand your own problems |
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| 15:30.03 | Stanlin | (10:29:05 AM) dpkg: I don't know, could you explain it? |
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| 15:30.12 | Stanlin | the bot is broken on msg |
| 15:30.17 | Stanlin | !intel |
| 15:30.17 | dpkg | somebody said intel was http://ipw2100.sourceforge.net/NOTICE |
| 15:30.34 | abrotman | doudou: no really, please go to #debian-fr |
| 15:30.37 | asg | garu: localhost.domain is fine. Just make sure you also have hostname.domain pointing to your external ip |
| 15:30.42 | abrotman | Stanlin: MSG THE BOT .. last warning |
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| 15:31.01 | doudou | abrotman, you track ip to known from what country questions come? |
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| 15:31.20 | abrotman | doudou: your english is awful |
| 15:31.26 | rajeshsr | hekatomb, How to output to artsd? |
| 15:31.29 | nvz | Stanlin: I think perhaps it just doesn't understand you |
| 15:31.32 | Stanlin | what are the drivers for Intel Corporation Mobile 945GME Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) |
| 15:31.55 | doudou | abrotman, my english is good enought, it is not a grammar problem whith you |
| 15:32.07 | abrotman | doudou: no, it's not, please go to #debian-fr |
| 15:32.08 | jelly-home | Stanlin: for xorg, "intel" (package xserver-xorg-video-intel) |
| 15:32.13 | patrikf | Stanlin, xserver-xorg-video-intel |
| 15:32.19 | rajeshsr | hekatomb, my audio has been working well, for all these days! It is not working only for the past 2 or 3 days! |
| 15:32.20 | Stanlin | oh thanks guys |
| 15:32.20 | garu | asg localhost.domain should point to the loopback address and the hostname.domain should point to the ip address of my modem?(not the ip address of my router)! |
| 15:32.26 | Stanlin | let me install that |
| 15:32.33 | doudou | but, do you really start to track ip, to known from what country people come? you could not prevent yourself to spy |
| 15:32.51 | abrotman | yeah .. perfect english ... |
| 15:32.56 | doudou | it is a shame |
| 15:33.01 | Stanlin | jelly-home: does this driver comes installed with the debian lenny? |
| 15:33.05 | abrotman | doudou: oh, if you don't like you don't have to stay |
| 15:33.09 | jelly-home | Stanlin: yes. |
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| 15:33.23 | jelly-home | Stanlin: (that is, _if_ you installed xorg) |
| 15:33.33 | doudou | i must ask you explanations, i dont like that, i must thats all |
| 15:33.39 | asg | garu: hostname.domain should point to the address of your machine |
| 15:33.49 | Stanlin | jelly-home: what is the name of the driver i should specify in xorg.conf for that intel chipset video? |
| 15:34.21 | jelly-home | Stanlin: "intel" |
| 15:34.47 | Stanlin | jelly-home: wowthanks ikll try now |
| 15:34.54 | doudou | you i am not the one who wrotes some many words about free, freedom and so one, to finish like a little spy, and we cant figure out where you stop |
| 15:35.25 | jelly-home | doudou: please learn the language, you're almost completely incomprehensible |
| 15:35.49 | garu | asg I think I didnt mention that...I'm using debian etch on a virtual machine.so I just give the hostname.domain the ip address of the computer where the debian virtual machine's installed!right? |
| 15:35.50 | doudou | anyway, did you answer about my question about determining country from ip? |
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| 15:36.05 | doudou | did you answer about the crazy the link? |
| 15:36.13 | jelly-home | has no idea what doudou is trying to say |
| 15:36.14 | abrotman | no one wants to answer you |
| 15:36.20 | abrotman | no one can understand you |
| 15:36.21 | doudou | can you answer to what extent do you spy my computer? |
| 15:36.42 | doudou | jelly-home, maybe try to answer simply |
| 15:36.51 | asg | garu: give it the ip address for the interface you are using as listed by /sbin/ifconfig |
| 15:37.14 | asg | garu: this value is only relevant to the local debian machine. External entities must use DNS to resolve names to IPs. |
| 15:37.37 | doudou | answer about ip and country, did you spy? |
| 15:38.22 | doudou | answer about what is the link between http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst#netboot tny cd and http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/main/installer-i386/current/images/ |
| 15:39.15 | doudou | why http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual why simply bring you back to first page about tinycd install after a long tour? |
| 15:39.27 | doudou | is that english too difficult to understand? |
| 15:39.36 | abrotman | why can't doudou speak english ? |
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| 15:40.06 | doudou | why abrotman speak so much in a help channel, to never help nor answer? |
| 15:40.14 | gravity | I think the answer is "because the debian website sucks" |
| 15:40.28 | gravity | But I might be misunderstanding the question |
| 15:40.35 | abrotman | shocker ... |
| 15:40.56 | doudou | gravity, i insist because it was sucking 5 months ago |
| 15:41.00 | d-b | gravity: whaht ? |
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| 15:41.01 | doudou | probably more |
| 15:41.02 | d-b | it rocks |
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| 15:41.18 | doudou | and what about the ip spying? |
| 15:41.18 | d-b | dude the debian site is great. |
| 15:41.25 | Stanlin | help!!! how to configure virtual resolution on my desktop????? |
| 15:41.27 | gravity | d-b: No, it pretty much sucks. We all know it. |
| 15:42.22 | garu | asg ok...by the way, I'v changed the hostname on both /etc/hosts and on /etc/host.conf and then restarted.that should do it, right? |
| 15:42.29 | d-b | gravity sucks, we can't prove it exists. |
| 15:42.34 | doudou | gravity, it can suck, i accept this version, nothing is perfect, but abrotman king of answer is boring, it is boring to bend the truth as he do |
| 15:43.01 | asg | garu: yes. hostname --fqdn will confirm |
| 15:43.21 | doudou | i mean abrotman, it is the same as a lot of friends here are boring the same way |
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| 15:43.40 | gravity | doudou: Your English makes you sound very rude. This makes people respond badly to you. I don't know if that is what you mean to do, but it is what is happening. |
| 15:43.58 | garu | asg yep. everything is perfect now...thanks for ur patience ;)! |
| 15:44.16 | d-b | this isn't a chat room. |
| 15:44.20 | d-b | its a support room.... |
| 15:44.36 | d-b | if you want to cat see #debian-offtopic |
| 15:44.56 | doudou | gravity, i understand, you are right for my english, but this word main problem is not politeness, it is fair rules |
| 15:45.01 | gravity | d-b: Who are you talking to? |
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| 15:45.19 | eptalon | so guys, what lines do I need in my sources-list (debian sid) to get the latest amarok.. |
| 15:45.27 | d-b | doudou: mostly -> also i meant chat not cat above. |
| 15:45.54 | eptalon | wrong chan, sorry. |
| 15:46.00 | Stanlin | help!!! how to configure virtual resolution on my desktop????? |
| 15:46.00 | gravity | He seems to be trying to get support (at least on the install thing, I have no idea what he's going on about with the IP/country thing) |
| 15:46.08 | karsten | doudou: For IP -> country I'm not sure, but you can get CIDR and ASN information from BGP routing data from routeviews.org. |
| 15:46.26 | karsten | doudou: to query: host -t txt <reversed IP>.asn.routeviews.org |
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| 15:46.29 | enouf | !geoip |
| 15:46.39 | enouf | !sunday |
| 15:46.39 | dpkg | Sunday is the day all trolls swarm to #debian, avoid at all cost to remain sane. |
| 15:46.48 | gravity | waves to karsten |
| 15:46.49 | doudou | respect of truth is main problem, far before politeness, maybe wrong channel, maybe not, i do not like to be hurt, probably many others too |
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| 15:46.51 | karsten | doudou: There are also mapping services which will make a guess for you. |
| 15:46.53 | myeggo | hello |
| 15:47.01 | myeggo | what is the most popular mp3 player for gnome? |
| 15:47.01 | eptalon | sohello |
| 15:47.11 | myeggo | rhythmbox? |
| 15:47.13 | abrotman | myeggo: probably rhythmbox |
| 15:47.15 | karsten | !tell myeggo about popcon |
| 15:47.20 | abrotman | quod libet is popular also |
| 15:47.26 | gravity | myeggo: That's hard to say. Rhythmbox is the default, so it probably wins there. Banshee is quite popular, and quod libet is very nice. |
| 15:47.29 | karsten | doudou: http://www.routeviews.org/ |
| 15:47.36 | gravity | myeggo: And there are a ton of mpd frontends for gnome as well for mpd users. |
| 15:47.48 | myeggo | aha |
| 15:47.54 | myeggo | i go to see how banshee looks |
| 15:47.55 | myeggo | thanks |
| 15:48.21 | myeggo | :) |
| 15:48.29 | karsten | myeggo: rythmbox, amarok (KDE), xmms, mplayer, and others, roughly. |
| 15:48.29 | gravity | I was thinking about trying banshee the other day, but having to install mono to use it made me take a pass |
| 15:48.30 | doudou | karsten, thanks for your explanations |
| 15:48.47 | karsten | doudou: De rien. |
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| 15:49.02 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, hey have you found a solution yet, mate? |
| 15:49.15 | Stanlin | twiadpaws: yeah WPA working fine |
| 15:49.39 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, what was causing the trouble? |
| 15:50.11 | Stanlin | twiadpaws: manually create the config supplcuiant file and add alal parameters |
| 15:50.29 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, you're killing me with that |
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| 15:50.42 | Stanlin | twiadpaws: it was hard as hell |
| 15:50.54 | Stanlin | WPA with linux its a NASA topic |
| 15:51.12 | nvz | lol |
| 15:51.21 | nvz | You are such a stooge |
| 15:52.05 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, great : < |
| 15:52.16 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, aren't those specifications open? |
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| 15:53.58 | Stanlin | twiadpaws: its very hard |
| 15:54.18 | Stanlin | seems there is a Hugeee bug between nm-applet and wpasupplicant |
| 15:54.30 | Stanlin | somebody confirmed here before |
| 15:54.32 | eptalon | Whats the apt-get line for kernel buildserver again? |
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| 16:09.33 | etech | can i make look synaptic in kde3 a bit better? |
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| 16:09.55 | Stanlin | help!!! how to configure virtual resolution on my desktop????? |
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| 16:14.49 | twiadpaws | Stanlin, i like to way you get your attention :b |
| 16:15.23 | Stanlin | i think i have disconections with this wifi |
| 16:15.30 | Stanlin | so i repeat just in case |
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| 16:15.32 | Stanlin | reboot |
| 16:15.56 | Stanlin | how to set xfce as default? |
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| 16:16.44 | d-b | use gdm ? |
| 16:17.01 | d-b | (simple method) |
| 16:17.25 | Stanlin | d-b oki |
| 16:17.53 | cr3rzemjest | i've found tutorial that teaches how to make 1-2 floppy-size minidistro, and i've come to a point where it says i should copy basic libs, but they're slackware libs and some of them aren't present on my system.... how do i know which libs should i copy? |
| 16:18.09 | amitz | Stanlin: xfce in console? there is that menu option somewhere below on login window. |
| 16:18.36 | etech | can i make look synaptic in kde3 a bit better? no one an idea? |
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| 16:18.40 | amitz | you can choose things such as gnome, kde, secure remote connection, etc. |
| 16:18.50 | Laeborg | http://pastebin.com/m6f7710cf - can anybody help me with that? |
| 16:18.53 | cr3rzemjest | i'm downloading mindi (or mondo?) right now and hopefully it'll be helpful, if that makes any sense |
| 16:18.59 | rajeshsr | hi, my frine gave his system to someone. and when he got back, the system directly boots into command line and on doing startx, it boots to XFCE. how am it get gnome back? |
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| 16:19.14 | rajeshsr | *frine => friend |
| 16:19.26 | d-b | rajeshsr: apt-get install gdm and set it that method / its easier. |
| 16:19.43 | d-b | or edit some files in the home dir ... |
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| 16:20.04 | amitz | Laeborg: you probably need kvm module or something like that. |
| 16:20.19 | rajeshsr | d-b, he alreday has gnome. why is he to install it? |
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| 16:20.38 | Laeborg | everytime i type 'apt-get install/remove/whatever' it starts to install virtualbox |
| 16:20.45 | Laeborg | how to cancel that? |
| 16:21.09 | amitz | Laeborg: run aptitude, then choose "cancel pending actions". |
| 16:21.38 | Laeborg | under tasks ? |
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| 16:22.22 | amitz | under actions |
| 16:22.32 | Laeborg | thanks |
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| 16:22.44 | amitz | np |
| 16:24.07 | Laeborg | hmm didn't worked |
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| 16:24.47 | amitz | Laeborg: hmm, try removing virtualbox then. |
| 16:24.56 | Laeborg | apt-get remove virtualbox ? |
| 16:25.31 | themill | Laeborg: haven't we been here before? You have a broken vbox package from upstream and you either need to muck around with the postinst/prerm or ask them about it in #vbox |
| 16:25.35 | Laeborg | lol theres mineswepper in aptitude :P |
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| 16:25.57 | karsten | Laeborg: I though it was tetris. Yeah. |
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| 16:28.42 | aleix | any samba pdc users here? |
| 16:29.07 | aleix | i need to know how to join a pdc so that sso works in a linux client... |
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| 16:29.53 | Haji_2 | hello, i have a question concerning compiz xv and my intel x3100 gfx-card: how can i enable hardware video rendering with compiz enabled? (like it is on ubuntu) |
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| 16:38.06 | __Ali__ | is debian-devel the right channel for packaging questions? |
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| 16:39.03 | cr3rzemjest | what is the possible reason of kde crashing when switching to tty? (not always, but this happened a moment ago) |
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| 16:42.45 | Zor | How would I make gdb automatically continue instead of giving me this? ---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit--- |
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| 16:45.51 | HackSign | hi room,i installed os into my usb stick,but i can not boot my pc form my usb stick |
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| 16:46.13 | HackSign | anybody tell me how can i boot my pc from my usb stick ? |
| 16:46.31 | twiadpaws | you installed it INTO it? |
| 16:46.35 | twiadpaws | : o |
| 16:46.36 | twiadpaws | how? |
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| 16:46.48 | HackSign | twiadpaws,.......... |
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| 16:47.12 | HackSign | twiadpaws,i mean i installed Debian linux into my usb stick .... |
| 16:47.19 | twiadpaws | into? |
| 16:47.31 | frostschutz | HackSign: by installing grub on usb... and booting from it. if your pc supports usb boot in general |
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| 16:47.45 | HackSign | twiadpaws,em...........well i dont know how to express myself exactly..... |
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| 16:48.21 | HackSign | twiadpaws,install an OS. |
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| 16:48.35 | morph3us | hi, how can i create a swap partition in debian lenny instalation |
| 16:48.57 | HackSign | twiadpaws,the OS files will appear on hard disk,right ? |
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| 16:49.10 | DeSian | how to change the Desktop GUI language with commande line(gnome)? |
| 16:49.43 | HackSign | DeSian,well,i dont know wether it will work |
| 16:50.02 | HackSign | DeSian,maybe u can modify the file /etc/profile.d/lang.sh |
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| 16:50.34 | DeSian | HackSign: some install Swdish language with debian gnome, will restore it to standard english |
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| 16:51.25 | anewbie | hi there folks |
| 16:51.35 | anewbie | how can i unisnstall compleatly gnome |
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| 16:51.41 | anewbie | i make apt-get remove |
| 16:51.45 | anewbie | ... but it is still there |
| 16:52.09 | Eulex | !remove gnome |
| 16:52.09 | dpkg | To remove or purge GNOME 1.x, do: aptitude remove libgnome32 libgnome2-common (use purge instead of remove if that's what you want). For GNOME 2.x, use aptitude remove libgnome2-* libbonobo2-* liborbit2* libgnomeui* libgnomevfs2-* (or use purge accordingly). |
| 16:53.12 | twiadpaws | haha i used apt-get autoremove gnome |
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| 16:55.42 | HackSign | DeSian,well my english is not very well ...so ...do u mean when u change your language to Swdish it comes back to English when u reboot you pc? |
| 16:56.41 | anewbie | twiadpaws, |
| 16:56.42 | DeSian | no HackSign he install the debian in swidish and will change the GUI language to English |
| 16:56.48 | anewbie | autormove wil do the job ? |
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| 16:57.55 | teratoma | is there a vimdiff package ? |
| 16:57.55 | HackSign | em...change the LANG in file /etc/profile.d/lang.sh into "LANG=en_US.utf8" |
| 16:58.21 | Eulex | anewbie, autoremove does not exist in the apt-get from etch |
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| 16:58.55 | anewbie | strange i type it and apt-get start to remove it |
| 16:59.21 | Eulex | DeSian, dpkg-reconfigure locales |
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| 16:59.52 | DeSian | Eulex: thanx |
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| 17:01.34 | amikrop | Excuse me, is anybody able to watch this live streaming, and if yes, tell me with which program/configuration? http://sports.novaondemand.gr/watch.aspx?id=LGRF090201AEKA_OLYM |
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| 17:06.25 | vinc | hello, How can I check which is the version of ATI drivers currently installed in my system? |
| 17:07.42 | twiadpaws | vinc, aticonfig |
| 17:08.04 | vinc | twiadpaws, thanks! |
| 17:08.12 | twiadpaws | vinc, you're welcome ;) |
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| 17:11.52 | enouf | oh well <OBJECT classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/s |
| 17:11.52 | enouf | hockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,0,0" WIDTH="468" HEIGHT="60" id="connx" ALIGN=""> |
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| 17:12.53 | cr3rzemjest | how to easily and fast copy basic libs and packages needed to boot linux? |
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| 17:13.29 | maligor | cr3rzemjest, from what? |
| 17:13.41 | cr3rzemjest | maligor, from my system |
| 17:13.42 | Akuw | what repository i have to add in sources.lst to install openoffice 3 ? |
| 17:13.51 | maligor | cr3rzemjest, you mean duplicate a installed system? |
| 17:14.18 | enouf | cr3rzemjest: try bootcd pkg? |
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| 17:15.27 | cr3rzemjest | enouf, bootcd is going to copy? i see it allows booting without cd only, or something |
| 17:15.49 | cr3rzemjest | i mean, i need to copy basic libs in order to make very little distro |
| 17:15.51 | cr3rzemjest | only shell |
| 17:16.00 | enouf | wrong, atleast that's not the way i read the Description |
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| 17:16.25 | Akuw | what repository i have to add in sources.lst to install openoffice 3 ? |
| 17:16.44 | enouf | cr3rzemjest: then maybe you want something else, go get a grml.org/faq small version, or debirf, or #debian-live or something |
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| 17:17.10 | enouf | judd: version openoffice |
| 17:17.11 | judd | enouf: (version takes no arguments) -- Returns the version of the current bot. |
| 17:17.15 | enouf | judd: versions openoffice |
| 17:17.16 | judd | enouf: openoffice -- |
| 17:17.57 | enouf | Akuw: go find it at packages.debian.org - if you're running lenny, and it's in sid, you might be able to backport it |
| 17:18.06 | cr3rzemjest | enouf, i've found tutorial which says i need to copy libs like ld-linux.so libc.so.5.4.44 libext2fs.so.2.3 libtermcap.so.2.0.8ld-linux.so.1 libcom_err.so.2 libm.so.5 libuuid.so.1 but some of them aren't present on my system |
| 17:18.14 | Akuw | i am runing etch |
| 17:18.22 | enouf | cr3rzemjest: that's nice |
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| 17:18.59 | enouf | Akuw: i doubt OO.o 3 is going to be available to you, but try /msg dpkg backports.org |
| 17:19.06 | cr3rzemjest | i need to make a presentation for my school ;/ 'creating ur own minidistro' but i cant find anything |
| 17:19.16 | Akuw | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:19.35 | enouf | er .. there's a gazillion out there cr3rzemjest - just find one worth following :-P |
| 17:19.54 | cr3rzemjest | enouf, could u give me keywords please... |
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| 17:19.59 | jelly-home | cr3rzemjest: lfs ? |
| 17:20.24 | enouf | i did - here's more, linux live slax lfs grml debirf debian |
| 17:20.34 | cr3rzemjest | jelly-home, it assumes the distro is larger than 5-10 mb |
| 17:20.47 | enouf | floppyfw .. heh |
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| 17:21.14 | enouf | basiclinux, featherlinux, vectorlinux, rip, ... |
| 17:21.46 | newsense | take a debian cd and put your name on it, all done |
| 17:21.52 | cr3rzemjest | newsense, no |
| 17:22.02 | newsense | sorry just kidding |
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| 17:22.21 | enouf | cr3rzemjest: ur sckool must stink a bit |
| 17:22.25 | cr3rzemjest | i need kernel, filesystem and blinking cursor, after booting that's everything |
| 17:23.01 | jelly-home | cr3rzemjest: take a look at busybox and busybox-based distros. |
| 17:23.06 | enouf | hd-media, vmlinuz, initrd, mini-iso, etc |
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| 17:23.36 | Akuw | what mean security word in red? like moodle (1.6.3-2+etch1) [security] |
| 17:23.36 | Akuw | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:23.40 | cr3rzemjest | enouf, why, it's not a univeristy, it's 4 year high school + IT |
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| 17:24.26 | jelly-home | Akuw: in what context? |
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| 17:24.38 | jelly-home | judd: versions moodle |
| 17:24.39 | judd | jelly-home: moodle -- etch: 1.6.3-2 etch-security: 1.6.3-2+etch1 sid: 1.8.2-2 lenny: 1.8.2.dfsg-2 sid: 1.8.2.dfsg-2 |
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| 17:24.53 | thasp | I just compiled 2.6.28.2 |
| 17:24.54 | Akuw | sorry, in Software Packages in "etch", Subsection web |
| 17:24.58 | thasp | I have 2 wifi cards in my computer |
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| 17:25.18 | thasp | iwconfig shows four things with wireless extensions. why does it see two cards ? :( |
| 17:25.22 | jelly-home | Akuw: is that a package manager? |
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| 17:26.08 | Akuw | i am checking web page http://packages.debian.org/stable/web/ |
| 17:26.31 | enouf | cr3rzemjest: no offense, but 'ur' shows it, but nevermind, ignore me |
| 17:27.12 | jelly-home | Akuw: it means that particular version is a security update. |
| 17:27.29 | Akuw | hum, ok thanks |
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| 17:30.32 | cr3rzemjest | no problem (sorry but i'm not native English speaker and obviously the subject wasn't presented in that form (the 'ur') and it was my translation) |
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| 17:39.50 | thasp | if I see ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan1: link is not ready when I run ifup wlan1 what does this mean? |
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| 17:40.11 | thasp | I set up my /etc/network/interfaces, I have the proper driver, and my macbook can connect to that same AP that this one refuses to |
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| 17:41.14 | aifnord | after installing the nvidia drivers on lenny, it seems that I can't link stuff with libGL anymore |
| 17:41.45 | aifnord | does anyone know if you need any particular libgl-package to use with the nvidia drivers? I suppose something got uninstalled at some point |
| 17:41.56 | aifnord | (I could link with it before installing the nvidia drivers) |
| 17:42.42 | thasp | is there some command I need to run with iwconfig to make the device ready? |
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| 17:47.04 | Stanlin | Screw Gnome, XCFE is superior!!! |
| 17:47.15 | thasp | :( |
| 17:47.29 | thasp | i thought when I took the via chipset mobo out that my wireless card would work, since that card worked in my p3 |
| 17:47.47 | thasp | but it's broke in the nforce4 board as well, with the same driver, and version of debian where it worked on my p3 |
| 17:47.56 | thasp | I'm coming to wonder if linux just doesn't like k8 |
| 17:48.23 | thasp | maybe i should upgrade to a slot 1 PIII system |
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| 17:56.17 | superjoe30 | I'm working on a cross platform application and I need to be able to extract contents from .zip files. Which library should I link against for this? |
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| 17:56.41 | Stanlin | zip |
| 17:56.51 | superjoe30 | Stanlin: zlib? |
| 17:56.53 | Stanlin | package |
| 17:56.57 | Stanlin | ohh the files |
| 17:56.58 | Stanlin | dunno |
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| 17:58.41 | frog_ | hi http://pastebin.ca/1324632 <-- could someone help me with this? i try to use snort with apache, mysql and acidbase. i have modified the variables in base_conf.php, restarted snort,mysql,apache and keep getting this error |
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| 17:58.46 | frog_ | i can make a connection as snort from the console |
| 17:58.57 | vinc | is there a way to estimate when a linux system has been installed? |
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| 18:00.07 | Stanlin | vinc check the kernel files timestamp |
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| 18:00.15 | Dreamweaver_ | ui |
| 18:00.25 | DakeDesu | quick question: how do I downgrade... people keep mentioning it, but I am not seeing anything in the apt-get man page |
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| 18:02.22 | danboid | Does kfreebsd Debian installer support ZFS? |
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| 18:02.36 | TheWanderer | Hi. I think I've seen a feature to notify me on screen brightness change in GNOME when I pressed the ACPI buttons. How do I enable that in KDE3? |
| 18:03.24 | Stanlin | xfce is superior |
| 18:03.26 | TheWanderer | I thought it would be handled by Xmodmap key mappings, but it doesn't quite work... do I need some specific values on keycodes? |
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| 18:05.35 | TheWanderer | Huh. Now it doesn't work on GNOME either. |
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| 18:07.21 | DakeDesu | I'd try xfce myself... but I want to figure out how to downgrade from experimental to lenny... I was only on experimental because of KDE4... but that is nolonger working |
| 18:07.53 | TheWanderer | So any clues on how I should go about enabling screen brightness change notifications? |
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| 18:09.03 | vinc | DakeDesu, as far as I know you should remove the packages you need to downgrade then edit your sources.list file (to put sid's repos) and finally reinstall those packages |
| 18:10.18 | DakeDesu | thanks vinc ... seems a little more complicated than I'd like |
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| 18:10.30 | DakeDesu | prolly be simpler to backup and then install a clean setup |
| 18:11.08 | vinc | then make a backup and try downgrading, it's not that hard |
| 18:11.11 | cakofony | does debian use release cycles like ubuntu, where packages aren't updated until the next version?> |
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| 18:11.30 | unop | cakofony, yes |
| 18:11.48 | cakofony | is there any way to stay updated to the latest versions? |
| 18:12.04 | DakeDesu | cakofony: check out information on apt-get and aptitude |
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| 18:12.08 | TheWanderer | cakofony: there are three branches of Debian: stable, testing and unstable. |
| 18:12.22 | n-iCe | hi |
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| 18:13.11 | cakofony | if I use testing, will It become stable after a while like ubuntu? or do I get to continue with the next releases testing branch? |
| 18:13.36 | TheWanderer | testing is a keyword which refers to the current testing branch |
| 18:13.46 | TheWanderer | so it is always testing, regardless of time |
| 18:14.01 | DakeDesu | cakofony: depends... if you go with sid or experimental (not recommended if you don't know what you are doing), you will stay in sid and experimentla |
| 18:14.04 | DakeDesu | experimental* |
| 18:14.04 | themill | (and testing is generally not a good place to be immediately after a release) |
| 18:14.19 | TheWanderer | however, you can use a release name like Lenny (current testing) so that it becomes stable when Lenny gets released |
| 18:14.37 | DakeDesu | TheWanderer: isn't lenny on a version freeze? |
| 18:14.54 | DakeDesu | or something silly like that? |
| 18:14.57 | TheWanderer | Yes, it is. It's about to become stable. |
| 18:15.04 | themill | DakeDesu: "silly"? |
| 18:15.07 | coppercore | yay |
| 18:15.28 | DakeDesu | themill: phrase of speech |
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| 18:15.39 | TheWanderer | For desktop systems, I recommend unstable (sid). Things hardly ever break and it's the cutting edge branch. |
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| 18:15.58 | themill | DakeDesu: only in a derogatory sense. |
| 18:16.13 | cakofony | alright, i'll try it |
| 18:16.19 | DakeDesu | I didn't mean anything bad by that themill |
| 18:16.26 | coppercore | so i have to ask, what comes after sid? |
| 18:16.29 | coppercore | :P |
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| 18:16.51 | DakeDesu | coppercore: experimental... but that is not a good thing to touch |
| 18:16.52 | themill | TheWanderer: Unless you're guaranteeing to be here 24h/day to offer support for sid, please don't recommend people use sid, especially people who are obviously unfamiliar with debian and are unlikely to be able to get themselves out of trouble *when* things break. |
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| 18:17.15 | TheWanderer | themill: is testing any better at this moment? :P |
| 18:17.31 | DakeDesu | sid stands for "Still In Development"... which should infer a few things |
| 18:17.39 | coppercore | hehe |
| 18:17.40 | themill | TheWanderer: of course. |
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| 18:17.56 | cakofony | themill: i'm a bit unfamiliar with debian, but Ive used gentoo and ubuntu for years :-D |
| 18:18.42 | coppercore | well you should have zero if not negative trouble with debian then :P |
| 18:18.42 | DakeDesu | ooh... gentoo is good... ubloatfail on the other hand |
| 18:18.42 | themill | DakeDesu: it doesn't stand for that at all. Also remember that experimental is *not* a release, it's not something cooler and shinier than sid. It's just something that's even more broken than sid. |
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| 18:19.02 | coppercore | don't bash ubuntu, it's prety nice for a desktop enviroment |
| 18:19.11 | coppercore | to me anyway |
| 18:19.17 | DakeDesu | themill: fair enough... I just keep hearing people saying sid stands for that |
| 18:19.39 | cakofony | the ubuntu alpha livecds are really good for installing gentoo on new hardware :-P |
| 18:19.41 | Eulex | DakeDesu, that's a backronym |
| 18:19.43 | DakeDesu | coppercore: technically gnome would be the "desktop environment" :P |
| 18:19.49 | themill | !sid |
| 18:19.49 | dpkg | it has been said that sid is the <unstable> version of Debian. It's named for the destructive neighbour kid in Toy Story. It is NOT an acronym, but is sometimes backronymed Still In Development anyway. Ask me about <unstable>. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. It will never be released. See <sid faq>. |
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| 18:19.59 | DakeDesu | Eulex: well I learned something new today |
| 18:20.13 | coppercore | !lenny |
| 18:20.13 | dpkg | lenny is probably the codename for the next Debian release, currently testing. To upgrade to lenny, ask me about <etch->lenny>. Lenny is the binoculars. Lenny will be known as version 5.0 and it will hopefully be released soon (ask me about <wwlr>). A <moving target>. See also <testing> and <lenny status>. |
| 18:21.14 | Spida | !lenny status |
| 18:21.14 | dpkg | Toolchain: frozen. Libs: frozen. Everything else: frozen. Now, it's serious bug squashing time. When will lenny release? Sooner if you help. See http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ for ideas how you can help. See also <rc-alert>. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2008/07/msg00007.html, or http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2008/09/msg00000.html, or <lenny release notes> |
| 18:21.23 | coppercore | !wwlr |
| 18:21.23 | dpkg | Lenny (5.0) will release WIR, SIYH and RSN. It will not be released while there are release critical bugs: http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical and see "Number concerning the next release". Ask me about <wir> <siyh> <rsn> <lenny status> <lenny pool> and see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2008/07/msg00005.html |
| 18:21.47 | themill | to see a factoid, please /msg dpkg |
| 18:21.53 | cakofony | do I need to download a sid installer cd, or just use the regular one and upgrade |
| 18:22.11 | DakeDesu | cakofony: use the regular one and upgrade |
| 18:22.27 | cakofony | and just change all my sources to sid? |
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| 18:22.43 | themill | cakofony: seriously... use lenny for a while, then in 6 or 12 months, perhaps try squeeze. If you have to ask, you shouldn't be using sid. |
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| 18:23.17 | dusted | what will become of debian when there are no more characters in toy story? :o |
| 18:23.30 | cakofony | the problem is that i need a 2.6.28 kernel |
| 18:23.34 | cakofony | or I cant get online |
| 18:23.44 | dusted | cakofony, then why not compile it? |
| 18:23.45 | coppercore | toy story 2 ? |
| 18:23.59 | dusted | coppercore, hm, ye.. guess we are safe for a while :P |
| 18:24.06 | coppercore | :P |
| 18:24.25 | dusted | After that, let's use names from mylittlepony |
| 18:24.40 | DakeDesu | lmao!!! |
| 18:24.53 | DakeDesu | I'd vote for that one |
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| 18:25.02 | coppercore | don't use star names, i already do that for my servers :P |
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| 18:25.12 | DakeDesu | Jem? |
| 18:25.14 | DakeDesu | Carebears? |
| 18:25.18 | DakeDesu | Smurfs? |
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| 18:25.35 | DakeDesu | is shot |
| 18:25.37 | dusted | For a few releases, Dexters lab would be a good candidate |
| 18:25.39 | coppercore | if only the guy who picks the names aws in here |
| 18:25.41 | themill | Well, you're not going to find the 2.6.28 kernel in sid anyway. |
| 18:25.41 | dusted | DeDe == sid |
| 18:26.07 | DakeDesu | "oooh! What does THIS button do?" |
| 18:26.18 | coppercore | *FOOM* |
| 18:26.27 | DakeDesu | roflmao |
| 18:27.02 | vinc | so, is there a way to check when my debian was installed? |
| 18:27.05 | DakeDesu | After Dexter's Lab, Powerpuff Girls maybe? |
| 18:27.17 | vinc | power rangers is good to me |
| 18:27.26 | DakeDesu | (Debian Mojo Jojo better be kick ass) |
| 18:27.34 | dusted | vinc, check the date of a file you haven't change since you installed it? |
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| 18:27.47 | vinc | goku-san |
| 18:28.30 | coppercore | themill: does lenny have ext4 support? (so i can try and break it) |
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| 18:28.46 | valdyn | coppercore: partially |
| 18:28.56 | coppercore | partially? |
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| 18:29.02 | twiadpaws | what's the advantage of ext4? |
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| 18:29.09 | dusted | Much faster |
| 18:29.14 | coppercore | defragmentation as you go |
| 18:29.16 | valdyn | twiadpaws: little faster |
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| 18:29.18 | DakeDesu | ah, Linux... the OS with 9001 partion formats |
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| 18:29.26 | coppercore | over 9000?! |
| 18:29.41 | valdyn | DakeDesu: now wth is a partion? |
| 18:29.51 | DakeDesu | valdyn: a spelling error |
| 18:29.53 | themill | coppercore: lenny has a 2.6.26 kernel... giyf. |
| 18:29.55 | dusted | Ha, just wait till I relase my fs format, which will be based on the principles of linked lists, mwahaha |
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| 18:30.21 | coppercore | omg OpenFAT16! |
| 18:30.23 | coppercore | dies |
| 18:30.29 | dusted | It will have both the reliability and performance of 5.25" floppies! :) |
| 18:30.42 | coppercore | lol FAT12? |
| 18:30.58 | themill | points towards #debian-offtopic |
| 18:30.58 | dusted | and not them double or single density ones, no way, those high density 1.6 mb ones that died if you looked at them in the wrong way |
| 18:31.27 | dusted | themill, sry :) |
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| 18:32.01 | twiadpaws | coppercore, it defragements itself on the way? |
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| 18:32.12 | coppercore | yes, it does somehow |
| 18:32.15 | coppercore | i'm not 100% sure how |
| 18:32.18 | twiadpaws | : o |
| 18:32.21 | EugenMayer | hello my exim is configured to not allow any not-authed mailing. Is it possible to let monit auth witht he server or make an exception |
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| 18:32.41 | coppercore | http://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Main_Page |
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| 18:35.12 | twiadpaws | there's a lot howto but less how it works :b |
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| 18:37.42 | cr3rzemjest | does make-kpkg make a kernel *deb package? if so, how to make initrd? |
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| 18:37.49 | thasp | this is driving me crazy. no wifi card will work in managed mode on any amd machine i try |
| 18:38.11 | zinx | thasp: you're doing it wrong? |
| 18:38.25 | cr3rzemjest | if i add -mkimage this will make initrd? |
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| 18:38.34 | twiadpaws | zinx, lol :b |
| 18:38.50 | muhoo | any idea how i would obtain the JOLIET (long) volume name of a cd-rom or dvd-rom? |
| 18:38.56 | thasp | zinx, the same driver, same config, and same card worked in a p3 system I have. but none of it works in either a via amd64 or an nforce4 amd64 system |
| 18:38.58 | v4nelle | guys what mean "padlock: VIA PadLock not detected."? i must blacklist padlock_aes? |
| 18:38.59 | zinx | thasp: you know Managed mode is the mode where you're connecting to an AP, right? |
| 18:39.06 | thasp | yes |
| 18:39.32 | thasp | airmon-ng will set it to monitor mode and airodump can read wifi networks, it sees my AP across the room, but I can't connect to it. |
| 18:39.37 | zinx | thasp: is the card listed via /sbin/iwconfig? |
| 18:39.38 | muhoo | IIRC, some GUI desktops like GNOME/KDE will show the long, embedded-spaces-etc version of a volume name if it's available. i need to get that name, somehow, from the command line |
| 18:39.50 | zinx | thasp: what are you using to connect? |
| 18:39.53 | thasp | zinx, yes. it shows up the same way it did in my pentium 3 |
| 18:40.02 | muhoo | blkid shows the ISO9660 version of the volume name: 8.3 DOS format. blech |
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| 18:40.18 | zinx | (also note that monitor mode can screw up the state of some wireless drivers) |
| 18:40.22 | thasp | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:40.32 | zinx | thasp: try with wicd or something :P |
| 18:41.10 | thasp | why would /etc/network/interfaces and iwconfig work on a pentium 3 but not on an amd64 with the same card and driver |
| 18:41.31 | zinx | thasp: because something else was different that you didn't catch :) |
| 18:41.43 | thasp | what didn't I catch :( |
| 18:41.56 | zinx | thasp: that's what you've got to figure out :/ |
| 18:42.18 | thasp | I'll be damned if I'm not trying :X |
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| 18:42.30 | zinx | thasp: i'd suggest at least trying to use wicd |
| 18:42.31 | thasp | i think the card won't enter managed mode now |
| 18:42.40 | zinx | thasp: reboot, don't put it in to monitor mode |
| 18:42.45 | thasp | that would explain airodump working |
| 18:43.01 | zinx | like i said, some drivers get confused when you put them in monitor mode |
| 18:43.01 | cr3rzemjest | how do i know how long does it take to compile kernel? |
| 18:43.20 | hekatomb | by trial |
| 18:43.36 | zinx | cr3rzemjest: do you know how long it takes to mow grass? |
| 18:44.09 | cr3rzemjest | ... |
| 18:44.14 | cr3rzemjest | i see |
| 18:44.36 | zinx | cr3rzemjest: the length of time it takes to compile a kernel is highly dependent on your hardware |
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| 18:46.26 | EugenMayer | any good way to the server draw graphs of memorey / cpu usage. Just easy and fast setup. Iam using monit to watch over the services right now |
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| 18:46.39 | DakeDesu | cr3rzemjest: I suggest you mess wiht LFS on a test machine before doing it for real |
| 18:47.04 | DakeDesu | even if it is just Debian machine with a custom kernel, it is not something that is to be done easily |
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| 18:47.39 | DakeDesu | (I've yet to successfully compile a Linux kernel... I've compiled a FreeBSD kernel... but not a Linux kernel yet) |
| 18:48.01 | feitingen | jsut a quick question, how do i permanently enable swap in debian? |
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| 18:48.05 | row | hmm dante-server is not in lenny, did something replace it? |
| 18:48.24 | feitingen | i forgot if it was a line in fstab or somewhere else |
| 18:48.31 | jelly-home | feitingen: it was. |
| 18:48.48 | feitingen | ah, great, thanks |
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| 18:49.22 | cr3rzemjest | is it possible to renice the compile process ? i've found cc1 uses most of %cpu but it is constantly changing its pid |
| 18:49.41 | jelly-home | cr3rzemjest: renice the parent make process |
| 18:49.43 | cr3rzemjest | i've tried to give it -1 and cpu usage raised a bit |
| 18:50.06 | valdyn | cr3rzemjest: renice the parent |
| 18:50.07 | row | interesting |
| 18:50.19 | row | dante-server is in unstable and stable but not testing |
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| 18:50.22 | row | wtf is that about |
| 18:50.24 | DakeDesu | cr3rzemjest: have you tried the -j4 'make' option (or is that FreeBSD only?) |
| 18:50.37 | cr3rzemjest | DakeDesu, no |
| 18:50.41 | DakeDesu | prolly screwed up that -j4 option |
| 18:50.47 | jelly-home | !+tell row -about why is dante-server not in testing |
| 18:50.48 | dpkg | told row about why is dante-server not in testing. |
| 18:51.03 | row | jelly ta |
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| 18:52.53 | DakeDesu | wow... who'd thought a scp from 10.0.1.2 to 10.0.1.8 would take so long |
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| 18:53.40 | row | sees no reason why dante-server is not in testing, but whatever |
| 18:54.01 | row | will build deb from unstable |
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| 18:56.56 | dmoerner | row: see bug 368322 |
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| 18:58.24 | row | dmoerner: ah! |
| 18:58.27 | row | that explains that |
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| 18:59.35 | jelly-home | dmoerner: that bug is closed though since 2008-07-31; apparently the maintainer didn't care enough to ask for a push to testing |
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| 18:59.50 | arezey | hello, i'm on lenny here; what package provides libboost_thread-mt.so.3? |
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| 19:00.06 | dmoerner | jelly-home: it's not really explained at all, but i think that the new maintainer change was so invasive that they decided to just pull from testing |
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| 19:01.07 | DakeDesu | arezey: there are many packages you may want to check out in `apt-cache search libboost` |
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| 19:01.58 | dmoerner | arezey: nothing has that name |
| 19:02.09 | arezey | well i'd be needing it.. |
| 19:02.11 | dmoerner | arezey: libboost-thread-dev has libboost_thread-mt.so though |
| 19:02.23 | dmoerner | use apt-file to search for this stuff in the future; /msg dpkg search |
| 19:02.23 | arezey | hmm... i see |
| 19:02.51 | arezey | yeah, well i'm no newb, but installing libboost didn't give me the library.. |
| 19:02.58 | DakeDesu | ope... I should prolly check out apt-file myself |
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| 19:05.55 | jelly-home | what's the package to report bugs for www.debian.org? |
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| 19:06.22 | Farhadix | I have shared my internet by Firestarter, but in client only with site's IPs can access to internet. I installed bind in server(my laptop) but I don't know config it to client can use internet using domain. is simple way to solve it? |
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| 19:07.17 | luke3321 | Hey, does anyone know of a command similar to uptime or w that displays longest uptime? |
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| 19:09.46 | zinx | luke3321: own-me-because-i-use-outdated-software-just-to-have-a-big-number.sh |
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| 19:10.28 | jelly-home | luke3321: longest? |
| 19:10.29 | luke3321 | zinx: Yes...... I was just curious.... As of now I'm on debian lenny with no pending updates |
| 19:10.40 | luke3321 | So not outdated at all... |
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| 19:11.51 | luke3321 | jelly-home: Yes, as in the time when the computer ran for the longest continuous stretch |
| 19:12.14 | jelly-home | luke3321: so, historical data? |
| 19:12.23 | luke3321 | jelly-home: yes |
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| 19:12.35 | simonrvn | uprecords |
| 19:13.17 | luke3321 | simonrvn: Is that in the Lenny repos? |
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| 19:13.38 | luke3321 | ah, I see it |
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| 19:14.16 | luke3321 | Allthough it depends on apache.. I'm not that bothered |
| 19:14.19 | Facedown | is there a guide of things to do when you freshly install a distro? |
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| 19:14.45 | luke3321 | Facedown: Depends on what you are looking to do |
| 19:14.47 | Facedown | all i did so far, was root: useradd facedown root: passwd facedown and it created /home/facedown .. and thats about it and i switched to facedown |
| 19:14.57 | Facedown | luke3321 like generic things.. package distro or whatever |
| 19:15.01 | Facedown | this is for a webserver |
| 19:15.06 | Facedown | ill be using apache 2 |
| 19:15.11 | Facedown | updatedb perhaps? |
| 19:15.12 | luke3321 | Ah, then im not of alot of help |
| 19:15.24 | jelly-home | installs zsh, screen, ssh and... joe *blush* |
| 19:15.30 | Facedown | hm |
| 19:15.45 | Facedown | jelly-home - i just tried to do sudo with my newly created facedown user and it says im not in sudoers file |
| 19:15.58 | Facedown | is this what is typically modified? |
| 19:16.00 | luke3321 | Facedown: As root, run visudo |
| 19:16.10 | jelly-home | Facedown: if you want to run sudo as that user, yes |
| 19:16.11 | luke3321 | then add facedown to the sudoers file |
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| 19:18.11 | DakeDesu | but yeah, I agree with jelly-home ... one of the first things I do when I install a fresh system is install screen... though I do rvim instead of joe... but thats just a personal preference (I do not want to start a joe vs. nano vs. emacs. vs vim vs. etc holy war here) |
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| 19:19.18 | Facedown | wow, im an idiot |
| 19:19.21 | luke3321 | looks up just exactly what screen does..... |
| 19:19.34 | Facedown | i accidently chose centos 5.2 instead of debian 4.0 in vps rebuild, LOL |
| 19:19.38 | Facedown | NO wonder its different |
| 19:19.44 | Facedown | shoot me now? ;p |
| 19:20.12 | jelly-home | dpkg: shoot Facedown |
| 19:20.12 | dpkg | blows Facedown away with an Elephant gun loaded with Badgers |
| 19:20.24 | Facedown | while we're on that - what do you guys think of centos? |
| 19:20.44 | julzmb | Facedown, have fun. im lost on anything other than debian |
| 19:20.53 | Facedown | yeah i'm rebuilding now |
| 19:21.00 | Facedown | should be done in a few mins |
| 19:21.05 | jelly-home | Facedown: it does what it's intended to do... provide a free RHEL compatible OS. |
| 19:21.06 | julzmb | apt-get is a MUST |
| 19:21.15 | luke3321 | Facedown: what host are you using? |
| 19:21.18 | Facedown | slicehost |
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| 19:21.27 | Facedown | i can rebuild in like 5 mins |
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| 19:21.47 | luke3321 | Huh, I had a host that rebuilt in uder a minute, no joke |
| 19:21.59 | Facedown | do you use aptitude, or apt-get? or does aptitude internally use apt-get, like a wrapper around it? |
| 19:22.25 | luke3321 | Personally I prefer apt-get over aptitude |
| 19:22.34 | luke3321 | but thats just me |
| 19:22.36 | jelly-home | Facedown: no, aptitude and apt-get both use libapt |
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| 19:22.51 | Facedown | so they're different, not wrapped around each other |
| 19:22.52 | jelly-home | aptitude is preferred since ~etch or so |
| 19:23.01 | luke3321 | jelly-home: Really? |
| 19:23.05 | Facedown | i like aptitude's gui |
| 19:23.07 | Facedown | its handy |
| 19:23.08 | enouf | both are frontends to dpkg, with fetching abilities |
| 19:23.10 | Facedown | apt-get is like ghetto ;p |
| 19:23.13 | jelly-home | luke3321: read the release notes |
| 19:23.20 | DakeDesu | I mostly use apt myself... mostly because aptitude's ncurses gui confuses me |
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| 19:23.25 | luke3321 | Yeah, I am... |
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| 19:23.30 | jelly-home | DakeDesu: aptitude has a command line. |
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| 19:23.44 | refrijerator | hello, 1 question. I read Debian Lenny supports armel architecture. Does this mean all 18000 lenny packages are available for armel? Is there a website where you can filter available packages by architecture? |
| 19:23.45 | luke3321 | jelly-home: Well... I never noticed that |
| 19:23.51 | luke3321 | but its there |
| 19:24.12 | luke3321 | refrijerator: packages.debian.org |
| 19:24.15 | luke3321 | try there |
| 19:24.55 | jelly-home | refrijerator: if the release notes say armel is supported, then yes, most of the packages will be available |
| 19:24.57 | refrijerator | i am there, but I can't find it |
| 19:25.27 | luke3321 | refrijerator: Well that was a shot in the dark, so I guess you cant search by archs there |
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| 19:25.41 | luke3321 | jelly-home: Why is aptitude prefered over apt-get? |
| 19:26.00 | refrijerator | thx |
| 19:26.02 | dmoerner | refrijerator: most packages are available for armel, i think its at about 97% |
| 19:26.06 | dmoerner | there is a graph somewhere |
| 19:26.15 | jelly-home | !tell luke3321 -about why aptitude |
| 19:26.28 | Facedown | !tell facedown -about why aptitude |
| 19:26.29 | refrijerator | dmoerner that is very encouraging |
| 19:26.43 | luke3321 | ah, i see |
| 19:26.54 | dmoerner | refrijerator: http://buildd.debian.org/stats/graph-week-big.png |
| 19:26.56 | jelly-home | Facedown: "/msg dpkg stuff" works too |
| 19:27.03 | dmoerner | it's at 98% |
| 19:27.06 | DakeDesu | !tell DakeDesu -about why aptitude |
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| 19:27.18 | refrijerator | where is the graph then? |
| 19:27.32 | dmoerner | refrijerator: that is the graph, i just sent you the link |
| 19:27.54 | refrijerator | oh, sorry I see |
| 19:28.04 | dmoerner | if you do "graph2" you will get some more information |
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| 19:29.11 | Facedown | hm |
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| 19:29.45 | cr3rzemjest | is there a way to predict kernel compile time? |
| 19:29.59 | Facedown | in a freshly 10 second install of debian, after 'adduser facedown' and switching to it i did sudo aptitude update and it didnt update.. if i go in aptitude manually by 'aptitude' and then hit 'u' to update, it says to become root which i dont.. am i missing the real command here? ;p |
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| 19:30.30 | Facedown | if i do 'aptitude update' it complains it cant open because im not root obviously |
| 19:30.34 | DakeDesu | cr3rzemjest: not really... but the Linux From Scratch website does share a time unit that sort of helps |
| 19:30.35 | enouf | http://debian.org/ports/arm/ oh well |
| 19:30.37 | jelly-home | Facedown: become root! |
| 19:30.40 | Facedown | again, sudo aptitude update just silently "fails" |
| 19:30.48 | Facedown | jelly-home: is that sarcasm? |
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| 19:31.00 | jelly-home | Facedown: no. Use su. |
| 19:31.08 | dmoerner | Facedown: sudo is not configured by default |
| 19:31.11 | Facedown | oh. |
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| 19:31.28 | enouf | cr3rzemjest: allow 1 - 1 1/2 hours on a p2 |
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| 19:31.49 | DakeDesu | jelly-home: I'd just log in as root from the login screen... some *n?x systems tend to not allow becoming root without being part of the wheel group |
| 19:32.02 | DakeDesu | becoming root via `su` that is |
| 19:32.06 | enouf | !wheel |
| 19:32.06 | dpkg | rumour has it, wheel is n. [from slang `big wheel' for a powerful person] The traditional name of security group zero in BSD. Irrelevant in debian default configs. You can use a PAM module to allow only group wheel to su to root (as is the default in some Unices), or to allow group wheel to su to root without a password. See man pam_wheel for details. |
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| 19:32.37 | DakeDesu | I mostly say it that way as it is a good practice, that won't leave you high and dry on other systems that is all |
| 19:32.53 | jelly-home | cr3rzemjest: how much RAM does you build machine have? Which CPU? which .config did you base your configuration on? |
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| 19:33.01 | Facedown | jelly-home : so do i run as su everytime for aptitude? |
| 19:33.11 | jelly-home | DakeDesu: wheel is irrelevant on Debian. |
| 19:33.48 | DakeDesu | Facedown: just go into root and run visudoers (I think that command is), and then just use sudo from there |
| 19:33.53 | jelly-home | Facedown: you can use some other way to become root if you want. |
| 19:33.56 | DakeDesu | jelly-home: I merely mentioned it as good practice |
| 19:34.04 | Facedown | hm |
| 19:34.14 | DakeDesu | you never know when you might wonder outside of debian |
| 19:34.28 | DakeDesu | wonder? wander? curse you propper english! |
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| 19:34.58 | Facedown | visudo? |
| 19:35.14 | jelly-home | Facedown: yes |
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| 19:35.31 | Facedown | ahh, it opens it in .. nano |
| 19:35.42 | dvs | ?!/ |
| 19:35.44 | DakeDesu | Facedown: it will open it into whatever $EDITOR is set as |
| 19:35.52 | DakeDesu | IIRC |
| 19:35.53 | Facedown | and i set that in .homerc ? |
| 19:35.57 | Facedown | i want vim ;p |
| 19:36.16 | jelly-home | Facedown: is it installed? |
| 19:36.18 | kibibyte | hi |
| 19:36.26 | kibibyte | i need to add users to system but all of their logins must be numbers |
| 19:36.31 | kibibyte | how to do it |
| 19:36.32 | kibibyte | :d |
| 19:36.36 | gaintsura | I'm about to do a test install of debian and am trying to get any questions out of the way now before I go and actually set it up on my system. Ubuntu gave me problems with acpi and I had to add the option to the grub menu, will debian (straight up) give me the same problem? |
| 19:36.38 | dvs | Facedown: I thought you had to set it in .profile |
| 19:36.45 | gaintsura | doing a vm test now though |
| 19:36.46 | Facedown | grabbing it right now |
| 19:37.23 | jelly-home | kibibyte: I think the first character of a username must be a letter. |
| 19:37.36 | enouf | gaintsura: you might - but kernel boot params are not that uncommon |
| 19:37.42 | kibibyte | jelly, i know but |
| 19:37.47 | kibibyte | it must be number |
| 19:37.48 | kibibyte | :( |
| 19:38.07 | Facedown | dvs: do i make a new file called .profile in /home/facedown ? |
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| 19:38.16 | jelly-home | kibibyte: tell your boss it can't be done without $2000 in development. |
| 19:38.23 | enouf | sounds like LDAP or kerberos or something kibibyte |
| 19:38.30 | dvs | Facedown: That's where I thought environment variables got picked up from. |
| 19:38.54 | enouf | maybe even selinux ... not sure |
| 19:38.58 | DakeDesu | kibibyte: tell your boss the standard is first initial last name.. has been that way since the 1970s... hence why most *n?x systems don't like numbers |
| 19:39.22 | jelly-home | kibibyte: a _lot_ of apps will be confused with logins like "1234", especially if their uid doesn't match |
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| 19:40.16 | kibibyte | jelly, but client wants it, he wants to use kind a social security numbers as logins |
| 19:40.26 | gaintsura | enouf: thanks |
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| 19:40.40 | DakeDesu | kibibyte: oh.. oh... that is... horrible |
| 19:40.51 | jelly-home | kibibyte: So add "user" before the number. |
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| 19:41.08 | DakeDesu | kibibyte: one look in /etc/passwd and your client's clients will be... what is the word for it? |
| 19:41.13 | jelly-home | kibibyte: "user1", "user2"... |
| 19:41.17 | DakeDesu | well that is terrible for privacy |
| 19:41.29 | dvs | agreed |
| 19:41.34 | enouf | man chfn? |
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| 19:41.46 | dvs | And can unix handle 13 character user ID? |
| 19:41.48 | DakeDesu | using SSN (if they are anything like Canadan SIN) for logins is a horrible horrible horrible idea |
| 19:41.59 | kibibyte | jelly, yeah ill try to talk with client |
| 19:42.04 | kibibyte | about adding some prefix |
| 19:42.11 | kibibyte | but i need to have arguments |
| 19:42.12 | kibibyte | :d |
| 19:42.26 | jelly-home | kibibyte: POSIX doesn't allow it. |
| 19:42.29 | enouf | !argue with kibibyte |
| 19:42.51 | DakeDesu | kibibyte: tell him that there can easily be all sorts of fraud abilities of the clients via /etc/passwd |
| 19:42.56 | cr3rzemjest | jelly-home, 1gb ram, 2,8Ghz Pentium D, i unchecked some options from default settings |
| 19:43.03 | kibibyte | DakeDesu, ok;d |
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| 19:43.32 | DakeDesu | SSN and SIN as usernames is a bad BAD *BAD* (did I mention bad?) idea |
| 19:43.46 | jelly-home | cr3rzemjest: not much more than 30 minutes if you remembered to use both cores |
| 19:44.05 | jelly-home | cr3rzemjest: where did you get those defaults from? |
| 19:44.49 | Facedown | Ok. In an attempt to change my default editor in root, I updated /root/.profile and added a line 'export EDITOR=vim' - I'm guessing this isn't totally it |
| 19:44.49 | jelly-home | cr3rzemjest: Debian enables and builds _all_ the possible drivers. That doesn't make sense if the kernel is going to be used on one machine only. |
| 19:44.52 | cr3rzemjest | jelly-home, i dont' know, i just used 'make menuconfig' and then make-kpkg kernel_image --mkimage /dir and they were there |
| 19:45.11 | jelly-home | cr3rzemjest: where did you get the kernel source from? |
| 19:45.44 | cr3rzemjest | jelly-home, kernel.org |
| 19:45.49 | kibibyte | DakeDesu, why?? |
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| 19:46.09 | jelly-home | cr3rzemjest: did you at least check all the drivers for your hardware were enabled? |
| 19:47.02 | DakeDesu | kibibyte: any client can get into the system with their login, and look at various /etc files to get the users' first and last names and their SSN... allowing for all sorts of fraud |
| 19:47.38 | DakeDesu | maybe I am paranoid but I know people who do more with a lot less |
| 19:47.47 | cr3rzemjest | jelly-home, well, no :P i just wanted to see how many megabytes would take the kernel after compilation... my old kernel has 1,2 mb and i wanted to make little own distro but... it is failure as i see |
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| 19:48.50 | kibibyte | hm |
| 19:49.08 | cr3rzemjest | lol it just finished |
| 19:49.10 | jelly-home | cr3rzemjest: if by "old" kernel you mean a distro one, you need to add the initrd image size to, because the drivers needed to recognize your disks and filesystems are in there. |
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| 19:51.36 | puff | My /var partition is filling up, so I tried move mailman out of /var/lib into /home/mailman, and soft linked /var/lib/mailman to /home/mailman. However, that caused problems when I restarted: http://pastebin.com/dd4550b2 |
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| 19:52.41 | hachi | how do I do an apt-cache search sorta operation on sources? |
| 19:52.54 | puff | hachi: Come again? |
| 19:53.09 | hachi | I can do `apt-cache search mythtv` |
| 19:53.12 | jelly-home | puff: ls -l /var/lib/mailman && ls -lL /var/lib/mailman ? |
| 19:53.13 | hachi | that shows me real packages |
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| 19:53.24 | hachi | I'm curious what the source packages with names like that are |
| 19:53.44 | puff | hachi: Ah, not apt-sources, source code? |
| 19:53.45 | jelly-home | puff: make that ls -ld /var/lib/mailman && ls -lLd /var/lib/mailman ? |
| 19:53.54 | hachi | apt-sources, yes |
| 19:54.09 | hachi | I can say 'apt-get source mythtv' and that will give me ONE source |
| 19:54.13 | hachi | it will fetch it |
| 19:54.19 | hachi | I'm curious which ones exist |
| 19:54.30 | hachi | I'm curious what the equivalent policy is for fetching them |
| 19:54.35 | jelly-home | puff: did you stop mailman and your MTA before moving the directory? |
| 19:54.38 | hachi | like apt-cache policy gives, etc. |
| 19:55.09 | puff | jelly-home: http://pastebin.com/d255506e2 |
| 19:55.12 | puff | jelly-home: Yeah. |
| 19:55.44 | puff | hachi: which ones? There should be source available for all of the packages. |
| 19:55.54 | puff | hachi: I'm confused by your question. |
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| 19:56.24 | hachi | yes |
| 19:56.27 | hachi | but what are the source names |
| 19:56.29 | puff | jelly-home: It sounds like, from the error, there's something somewhere in postfix and/or mailman that doesn't like links. |
| 19:56.31 | hachi | where do they come from |
| 19:56.47 | hachi | are there multiple versions available of the source, and apt-get source is choosing one for me |
| 19:56.48 | jelly-home | puff: postfix is a different problem. |
| 19:56.59 | puff | hachi: Ah... as I understand it, you don't use a different name, you simply use the package name plus an optoin to specify fetching source. |
| 19:57.00 | abrotman | hachi: if you `apt-cache show <foo>` .. if the source package differs in name, there is a Source line IIRC |
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| 19:57.24 | hachi | no, I want to search for things /like/ this name |
| 19:57.33 | hachi | yes, I can figure out the source to one package |
| 19:57.43 | hachi | I want to see what sources are possibly related, by name |
| 19:57.51 | jelly-home | puff: what about ls -l /home/mailman/locks ? |
| 19:58.05 | hachi | I don't want to actually fetch the sources |
| 19:58.07 | \amethyst | hachi: apt-cache showsrc |
| 19:58.10 | hachi | that's why I'm trying to use apt-cache |
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| 19:58.29 | hachi | that only shows one named package |
| 19:58.36 | puff | Ah-hah: 2~lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 Feb 1 00:26 /home/mailman/locks -> ../../lock/mailman |
| 19:59.00 | jelly-home | puff: inspect the contents of /home/mailman |
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| 19:59.24 | puff | I hate relative paths :-( |
| 19:59.32 | puff | Locks and logs, yeah. |
| 19:59.44 | enouf | hachi: no it doesn't - but try apt-rdepends |
| 19:59.54 | puff | I had considered only moving the big subdirs but I thoguht it would be cleaner to move the whole thing. Sigh. |
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| 20:00.17 | jelly-home | puff: except the whole thing isn't the whole thing |
| 20:00.21 | hachi | `apt-cache showsrc perl` |
| 20:00.29 | hachi | it only shows the perl package source information |
| 20:00.40 | hachi | I'm trying to figure out other similarly named sources |
| 20:00.44 | enouf | try that with linux-source-version |
| 20:00.49 | jelly-home | hachi: aptitude has a powerful search syntax. |
| 20:01.06 | \amethyst | jelly-home: but aptitude barely knows about source packages |
| 20:01.14 | enouf | it'll list all the binary pkgs built from that source |
| 20:01.15 | puff | jelly-home: So, as a quick fix, do you think it would make sense to separate out the big subdirs into /home/mailman/data, etc, and then move the rest of mailman back into /var/lib and soft-link jus those big subdirs? |
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| 20:01.48 | hachi | enouf: since every perl module package has the term 'perl' in it... why didn't I get every perl module? |
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| 20:01.57 | enouf | hachi: i use tab-completion as well to help ;-) |
| 20:02.02 | jelly-home | puff: since you've already moved /v/l/m, why not just fix the broken links and be done with it |
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| 20:02.26 | puff | jelly-home: I guess... sigh. I hate mucking up package dependencies. |
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| 20:02.45 | enouf | ~$ apt-cache showsrc libperl[TAB][TAB] for example |
| 20:02.48 | kibibyte | how to open page 4 of man |
| 20:02.54 | kibibyte | ie passwd(4) |
| 20:03.01 | puff | jelly-home: Actually, that's a good ppoint... if I had /var/lib/mailman with most of the functional bits really there, and ust /var/lib/mailman/data and /va/rlib/mailman/archives, etc, soft-linked to /home/mailman/data, etc |
| 20:03.07 | hachi | how the devil would my shell know about source package names? |
| 20:03.10 | abrotman | kibibyte: man 4 passwd ... man man would help you |
| 20:03.11 | puff | jelly-home: Would that be updated properly by apt? |
| 20:03.17 | hachi | also, globbing doesn't work |
| 20:03.17 | kibibyte | ok |
| 20:03.18 | kibibyte | :d |
| 20:03.27 | hachi | apt-cache showsrc '*perl' |
| 20:03.40 | enouf | apt-cache showsrc perl[tab][tab] \o/ |
| 20:03.54 | hachi | I just tried tab completion, it completes it for filenames in my current directory |
| 20:03.58 | jelly-home | puff: dpkg handles symlinks to directories afaik, but don't trust me. ;-) |
| 20:03.59 | hachi | so I don't know what you're on about |
| 20:04.01 | enouf | ewww |
| 20:04.19 | hachi | how would my shell know that I'm talking about debian source packages? |
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| 20:04.29 | hachi | I'm guessing you have some really fancy completion system in place |
| 20:04.32 | enouf | hachi: http://rafb.net/p/vf5ztF27.html |
| 20:04.37 | hachi | perhaps one implemented with the command I'm looking for |
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| 20:04.52 | enouf | hachi: maybe you need to run update -- did you just add a deb-src line? |
| 20:05.01 | hachi | I just ran update |
| 20:05.06 | hachi | before I even asked the question |
| 20:05.16 | hachi | and I do have a deb-src line |
| 20:05.21 | hachi | I have many |
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| 20:06.53 | enouf | hachi: which release? etch? |
| 20:07.12 | hachi | lenny, sid, whatever.. amalgamation |
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| 20:07.23 | hachi | I'm using zsh and zsh doesn't have the apt completion stuff in it |
| 20:07.31 | hachi | I'm reading the bash_completion that you're using now |
| 20:07.44 | enouf | ~$ dpkg -l apt dpkg bash | tail -n 3 | awk '{ print$2,$3 }' | xargs |
| 20:07.52 | enouf | oh |
| 20:08.05 | enouf | heh - yeah, /etc/bash_completion :-P |
| 20:08.15 | \amethyst | it just complete the binary package names |
| 20:08.33 | hachi | yeah |
| 20:08.39 | hachi | cause it uses `apt-cache pkgnames` |
| 20:08.40 | puff | jelly-home: Well, I decided to try just moving&linking the data, archive and qfiles subdirs. That fixed mailman, but postfix is still giving me Starting mail transport agent: Postfixpostsuper: fatal: scan_dir_push: open directory defer/A/A: Not a directory |
| 20:08.59 | jelly-home | puff: that's not a mailman problem |
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| 20:09.15 | enouf | \amethyst: i see many more in my paste than just -> Binary: perl-base, libcgi-fast-perl, perl-doc, perl-modules, perl-debug, perl-suid, libperl5.10, libperl-dev, perl |
| 20:09.17 | jelly-home | read your mail logs |
| 20:09.41 | jelly-home | enouf: those don't look like sources |
| 20:10.07 | hachi | those are all non-source package names |
| 20:10.14 | hachi | libperl5.10 is from the perl source |
| 20:10.23 | enouf | ~$ apt-cache showsrc perlconsole |
| 20:10.35 | jelly-home | hachi: did you load the default zsh completions? |
| 20:10.42 | enouf | it's in the paste, not in the Binary list |
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| 20:10.57 | ghetto | hi |
| 20:10.58 | hachi | enouf: `apt-cache show perlconsole` |
| 20:11.03 | hachi | it's there for me |
| 20:11.14 | enouf | and? |
| 20:11.15 | \amethyst | enouf: perlconsole is a binary package that's built from a source package of the same name |
| 20:11.22 | enouf | \amethyst: bingo |
| 20:11.22 | hachi | it's listing non-source packages |
| 20:11.26 | enouf | that's all i said |
| 20:11.28 | enouf | no |
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| 20:11.36 | hachi | yes, it is |
| 20:11.39 | enouf | no |
| 20:11.40 | hachi | it's not listing source packages |
| 20:11.43 | enouf | no |
| 20:12.13 | hachi | it lists the non-source packages and those who happen to have the same names as their source packages you're using as a counterexample |
| 20:12.18 | puff | jelly-home: Sure, but it's still my problem :-) |
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| 20:12.55 | ghetto | how can i upgrade 4.0 to 5.0? |
| 20:12.57 | jelly-home | puff: did you mess with its files as well? |
| 20:13.32 | enouf | hachi: i must admit, i'm confused as to exactly what you want .. |
| 20:13.34 | puff | jelly-home: No. |
| 20:13.44 | hachi | I want to search the source package lists |
| 20:13.55 | \amethyst | enouf: a way to get a list of all source packages whose names match a given regexp or glob |
| 20:13.57 | hachi | `apt-cache search` searches the non-source package lists |
| 20:14.08 | enouf | hachi: i know packages.debian.org can - maybe grep-dctrl .. hrm |
| 20:14.17 | \amethyst | hachi: how about grep 'Package: .*perl.*' /var/lib/apt/lists/*Sources ? |
| 20:14.21 | hachi | I am also looking for how to do `apt-cache policy` against sources |
| 20:14.35 | hachi | yes, I can do that, thank you amathyst |
| 20:14.37 | enouf | hachi: apt-cache showsrc[TAB][TAB] shows source pkg name |
| 20:14.39 | enouf | s |
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| 20:14.47 | hachi | I've been asking this question cause I figured theres a way to do it |
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| 20:15.01 | enouf | some source pkgnames also have the same binary pkgname |
| 20:15.10 | hachi | that's nice and useless |
| 20:15.15 | hachi | stop giving that answer |
| 20:15.16 | enouf | fine |
| 20:15.20 | enouf | habe a nice dau |
| 20:15.24 | enouf | heh |
| 20:15.31 | jelly-home | hachi: you can always parse /var/lib/apt/lists/*Sources |
| 20:15.38 | oxygen | hello |
| 20:15.44 | hachi | yeah, I was looking for the tool that does it for me |
| 20:15.47 | vinc | how can i find out which version of a package I am using? (via apt) |
| 20:15.49 | \amethyst | I don't think it's unreasonable to want such a tool |
| 20:15.51 | oxygen | i am using deb 4.0 and i want to upgrade this os |
| 20:15.56 | \amethyst | I'm kind of surprised there isn't one |
| 20:15.58 | oxygen | i need source list for deb 5 upgrade |
| 20:16.03 | hachi | I'm just puzzled given the age of the debian project that there isn't one |
| 20:16.05 | oxygen | how can i find it ? |
| 20:16.05 | kibibyte | jelly, i have ubuntu and it let me created user 12345 |
| 20:16.06 | kibibyte | :d |
| 20:16.08 | enouf | try #debian-mentors or /msg dpkg nmg (perhaps) .. </last comment about that> |
| 20:16.10 | hachi | so I assume there is one |
| 20:16.13 | hachi | and nobody knows about it |
| 20:16.32 | kibibyte | jelly-home, |
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| 20:16.41 | kibibyte | jelly-home, but i cant do it in solalris |
| 20:16.45 | oxygen | help me anybody people.. |
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| 20:16.56 | jelly-home | kibibyte: uh, this is #debian. |
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| 20:17.10 | kibibyte | jelly-home, is it possible on debian? |
| 20:17.11 | dvs | oxygen: change "etch" to "lenny" in sources.lst |
| 20:17.15 | kibibyte | try add user 12345 |
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| 20:17.35 | jelly-home | kibibyte: possible != smart |
| 20:17.47 | \amethyst | hachi: apt-get source uses the newest available version of the source package, from all of the archives |
| 20:17.58 | DakeDesu | kibibyte: I've already told you... using SSN as a user name is insanely insecure |
| 20:18.06 | \amethyst | hachi: all of the ones that are enabled as sources.list |
| 20:18.13 | hachi | and illegal if you're a government entity |
| 20:18.22 | kibibyte | DakeDesu, i know it |
| 20:18.23 | kibibyte | but client |
| 20:18.27 | kibibyte | is our lord |
| 20:18.29 | kibibyte | :d |
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| 20:18.37 | kibibyte | but i will tell him that |
| 20:18.42 | jelly-home | kibibyte: in addition, using digits only in a username is utterly unsupported |
| 20:19.02 | jelly-home | kibibyte: "can't be done, technical reasons". NEXT! |
| 20:19.07 | \amethyst | jelly-home: it's not *utterly* unsupported, but it probably hasn't received much testing |
| 20:19.08 | oxygen | tnx dvs |
| 20:19.09 | Ljudkort | If I were to install Debian 5.0 RC2 today - would I have to reinstall when the final version is released, or would it automatically be updated? |
| 20:19.15 | dvs | oxygen: np |
| 20:19.23 | jelly-home | \amethyst: ps _will_ choke on it |
| 20:19.33 | dvs | Ljudkort: it will automatically be updated. |
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| 20:19.49 | kibibyte | jelly-home, what you mean uterrly unsupported? |
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| 20:19.54 | Ljudkort | dvs, so - I'd basically have the same version as the "final" when it's released? |
| 20:19.59 | jelly-home | kibibyte: just that;. |
| 20:20.35 | dvs | Ljudkort: it will automatically install the newer packages for the final release. |
| 20:20.40 | DakeDesu | Ljudkort: yersh.. in fact once you have debian installed, you will not need another debian installer cd unless there is a major update for dpkg or apt (like what happened with RPMv4... but I hope everybody learned from that one) |
| 20:20.54 | Ljudkort | dvs, ok, Thanks a bunch :) |
| 20:21.00 | dvs | Ljudkort: np |
| 20:21.01 | Ljudkort | DakeDesu, ah, awesome :) |
| 20:21.07 | Eulex | Ljudkort, ahaha, I like your nick, Mr. Soundcard |
| 20:21.18 | dvs | DakeDesu: There's an RPMv4? What's new about it? |
| 20:21.20 | Ljudkort | Eulex, I suppose you're Swedish? ;) |
| 20:21.24 | Eulex | I am. |
| 20:21.32 | Ljudkort | Then we're two :] |
| 20:21.38 | Eulex | yep :) |
| 20:21.58 | dvs | We're being invaded! |
| 20:22.00 | DakeDesu | dvs: RPMv4 was back into 2k, 2k1, 2k2 or something like that... screwed up a lot of distros based on RedHat during that update |
| 20:22.15 | jelly-home | kibibyte: there are all sorts of unexpected interactions that might happen if you do that, and many packages might break or work incorrectly. |
| 20:22.16 | DakeDesu | RPMv3 and RPMv4 did not like each other |
| 20:22.27 | dvs | DakeDesu: Oh. So it's been a while. |
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| 20:22.53 | DakeDesu | dvs: yersh... which is why I hope we've learned for it |
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| 20:23.01 | Eulex | dvs, Bork Bork Bork |
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| 20:23.08 | Jork | hello.Does maybe enyone knows when lenny will official be released? |
| 20:23.20 | DakeDesu | Jork: when it was done |
| 20:23.24 | Ljudkort | is* |
| 20:23.26 | dvs | Eulex: That is my favorite Swedish export! |
| 20:23.44 | dvs | Jork: nope |
| 20:23.52 | Ljudkort | See you later, Eulex. |
| 20:23.57 | Eulex | bye |
| 20:24.20 | enouf | heh - ~$ grep-available -FSource perl | grep Package -- no idea :-P |
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| 20:25.34 | etech | why is sid freezed when a new debian stable will be released? |
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| 20:26.18 | enouf | !slushy |
| 20:26.18 | dpkg | i guess slushy is when a <testing> release becomes frozen, <unstable> tends to partially freeze as well. This is because developers are reluctant to upload radically new software to unstable, in case the frozen software in testing needs minor updates and to fix release critical bugs which keep testing from becoming <stable>. |
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| 20:27.17 | simonrvn | s/freezed/frozen/ |
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| 20:31.26 | dvs | @moo |
| 20:31.46 | Eulex | !moo |
| 20:31.46 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you could be too; join us all! type apt-get moo. aplay /usr/lib/openoffice/share/gallery/sounds/cow.wav |
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| 20:34.30 | etech | apt-get moo |
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| 20:39.38 | edt | I just finished upgrading an old debian install. Now X is missbehaving. Each keypress toggles the scrolllock. This means to type exit on a kterm I need to type e<scrolllock>x<scrolllock>i<scrolllock>t<scrolllock><return> |
| 20:39.46 | edt | anyone have any ideas? |
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| 20:41.52 | enouf | what did you spill on your keyboard? |
| 20:42.00 | dutchfish | hi, issueing m-a auto-install kvm fails with an extreme long list of errors in the build log of m-a poiting to types.h doesnt exists. Debian lenny and trying to install kvm_intel on amd64 flavour latest. Can someone help me out? |
| 20:42.24 | edt | enouf Its working fine without X active (I am typing on it now) |
| 20:42.57 | DakeDesu | edt: have you checked your accessibility settings? |
| 20:43.06 | enouf | edt: you upgraded from what to what |
| 20:43.17 | DakeDesu | sometimes various accessibility "features" tend to do silly things like that |
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| 20:43.24 | edt | latest debian unstable |
| 20:43.32 | edt | DakeDesu checking |
| 20:44.18 | enouf | checked your xorg.conf ? |
| 20:45.54 | EugenMayer | Hello a debain / nagios question : Iam runngin nagios and checking several services but running into trouble with mailq exim check and load check they seem to require some parameter like load or "-w" but where to define them? is that documented? |
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| 20:46.08 | enouf | dutchfish: is kvm-source installed? |
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| 20:46.37 | dutchfish | enouf, sure along with even the kernel-headers and kqemu |
| 20:47.10 | dutchfish | enouf, its living in /usr/src as a tarball, shoud it? |
| 20:47.48 | enouf | dutchfish: not sure .. might need unpacking? i'm going by http://kvm.qumranet.com/kvmwiki/Debian |
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| 20:48.15 | dutchfish | enouf, well didnt need that for all the other modules like kqemu etc |
| 20:48.39 | edt | enouf xorg.conf's keyboard section is the same as that I am using in gentoo (same keyboard via a kvm) |
| 20:49.00 | edt | DakeDesu does not seek to be accessability stuff |
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| 20:49.08 | dutchfish | enouf, after installing kvm-source m-a properly lists kvm as an option but on the first CC [M] its blows up |
| 20:49.17 | edt | s/seek/seem/ |
| 20:49.34 | edt | 1 |
| 20:49.38 | enouf | dutchfish: have you updated/upgraded your build-essential lately? |
| 20:50.00 | twiadpaws | is it possible to sort files found with the find command by name? |
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| 20:50.20 | dutchfish | enouf, i am to date as far as aptitude update && aptitude safe-upgrade can be (should i dist-upgrade?) |
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| 20:50.53 | dvs | dutchfish: aptitude full-upgrade |
| 20:51.07 | enouf | dutchfish: if lenny only sources, a dist-upgrade might break you, but shouldn't .. i can |
| 20:51.15 | enouf | dutchfish: .. i can't say |
| 20:51.53 | dutchfish | dvs, enouf dist-upgrade and full-upgrade went without any errors and any updates |
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| 20:52.13 | enouf | dutchfish: break down m-a a-i into get/build/install .. you did the get already, IINM |
| 20:52.29 | dutchfish | enouf, i checked debsums already, nothing funny going on, its a clean install |
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| 20:53.28 | dutchfish | enouf, you mean something like make-kpkg --revision=$VER --append-to-version=$NAMEEXT --rootcmd modules_image |
| 20:54.22 | enouf | dutchfish: well - but not make-kpkg, more m-a build <pkg> |
| 20:54.33 | dutchfish | enouf, ok |
| 20:54.57 | dutchfish | enouf, same errors |
| 20:55.00 | enouf | dutchfish: you might just be missing a certain -dev pkg .. not sure - types.h is in many |
| 20:55.16 | dutchfish | enouf, how to check out wich dep? |
| 20:55.26 | enouf | dpkg-checkbuildeps ? |
| 20:55.39 | dutchfish | enouf, i already build succesfully alot and kernels on this system without a glitch |
| 20:55.52 | enouf | dutchfish: what's different then? |
| 20:56.02 | dutchfish | enouf, thats my q ... |
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| 20:57.19 | enouf | dutchfish: can you pastebin commands + errors? (remove reduntant info if too much) |
| 20:57.20 | dutchfish | enouf, dpkg-checkbuilddeps returns nothing in /usr/src/modules/kvm |
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| 20:57.42 | dutchfish | enouf, how can i create a dump log with m-a? |
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| 20:57.55 | dutchfish | enouf, or where cna i find it? |
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| 20:58.33 | chuck | how do I install the `mail` client? |
| 20:58.34 | enouf | dutchfish: pipe it or redirect it? |
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| 20:58.59 | sepult_ | is it already possible to play 3d games in virtualbox ? |
| 20:59.21 | sepult_ | cause i get errors, installation went fine but the game won't start |
| 21:00.05 | sepult_ | it is a fullversion from a games magazine cd |
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| 21:00.36 | edt | I am trying a dist-upgrade to see if it fixes X (its probably X not kde - I tried moving .kde and going with a default kde with the same messed up keyboard) |
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| 21:07.20 | dutchfish | enouf, http://imagebin.ca/view/Ws333h9M.html |
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| 21:13.04 | n-iCe | hi |
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| 21:13.31 | n-iCe | Ops ^SertaP is spreading virus |
| 21:13.40 | n-iCe | and porn sites |
| 21:13.58 | dutchfish | enouf, and types.h strings.h are in place .... |
| 21:14.01 | Jester45__ | That's bad |
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| 21:14.52 | eptalon | heyas |
| 21:15.58 | eptalon | !tell me about bulidserver |
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| 21:16.23 | arezey | there's no !tell here |
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| 21:16.42 | eptalon | found out, thanks. |
| 21:16.52 | arezey | btw wasn't buildserver a suse thing? |
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| 21:17.30 | arezey | s/btw/and/ .. |
| 21:17.53 | Vincent0ne- | who got to use lenny yet and does it run well? |
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| 21:18.11 | arezey | Vincent0ne-: runs pretty fine here |
| 21:18.35 | eptalon | Vincent0ne-: yes it does, depends on what you are after |
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| 21:19.06 | eptalon | arezey: not it isnt |
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| 21:19.12 | arezey | eptalon: oh? |
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| 21:19.22 | arezey | well i don't know anything else about it :) |
| 21:19.25 | Vincent0ne- | I started to go to debian, I was using opensuse before I found that debian was more stable and faster |
| 21:19.39 | arezey | tried opensuse recently and didn't like.. |
| 21:20.11 | Vincent0ne- | ever since Opensuse 11.1 came out, wasnt overly keen on it |
| 21:20.15 | eptalon | arezey: buildserver is the boxes that bulid the packages for the architectures |
| 21:20.26 | arezey | eptalon: ah, ok. |
| 21:20.32 | eptalon | arezey: debian isnt just intel and amd64.. |
| 21:20.40 | arezey | yeah |
| 21:20.42 | eptalon | arezey: there are like 10 others. |
| 21:20.50 | Vincent0ne- | I used debian 3 on a sparc couple of years ago |
| 21:20.57 | eptalon | arezey: And I guess you dont have a vax at home. |
| 21:21.03 | arezey | heh, no :) |
| 21:21.16 | arezey | but i have heard about it, and powerpc and some else i can't name right now.. |
| 21:21.37 | eptalon | Vincent0ne-: works pretty well (Used it on sparcstation 5 and 10, and ultrasparcs) |
| 21:21.44 | arezey | sparc, that was it |
| 21:21.46 | Vincent0ne- | its cool |
| 21:22.07 | Vincent0ne- | I used it on the UltraSparc 5 |
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| 21:22.18 | eptalon | mips (both big and little endian), vax,... |
| 21:22.29 | arezey | mmh. |
| 21:22.35 | eptalon | the irix boxes. |
| 21:22.43 | eptalon | ie SGI |
| 21:22.51 | Vincent0ne- | if I still had my old Decstation, I would try mips debian port on it |
| 21:22.55 | eptalon | IBM Power arch |
| 21:23.05 | arezey | there's one more i can't name.. |
| 21:23.07 | jtaji | you guys have an onjoin spammer, ^SertaP |
| 21:23.11 | arezey | hmm? |
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| 21:23.14 | eptalon | Vincent0ne-: I was disappointed by the dec things. |
| 21:23.20 | arezey | gee indeed. |
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| 21:23.31 | garu | hi everyone |
| 21:23.37 | Vincent0ne- | I used them at my old college as part of a project to get unix or linux to run on them |
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| 21:23.48 | Vincent0ne- | before I got kicked off the course |
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| 21:24.19 | garu | can someone tell me what command do I type in debian etch terminal to find if I'v got a specific package installed? |
| 21:24.53 | eptalon | garu: dpkg -l |grep packagename |
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| 21:25.06 | eptalon | garu: should say ii next to it |
| 21:25.21 | garu | eptalon thanks |
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| 21:27.09 | dondelelcaro | or just dpkg -l packagename |
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| 21:28.38 | eptalon | was wondering how i got sid ot use my swap in a raid0 manner.. |
| 21:28.43 | EugenMayer | any easy way to let nagios check with mailq? it seems under debian we have permission problems |
| 21:28.54 | doctormo | I'm having trouble with the debian boot floppies, they seem to boot up to 'Ready' and then reset the machine. |
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| 21:29.05 | doctormo | I'm not sure what I can do to figure it out. |
| 21:29.17 | eptalon | doctormo: "floppies"? - not cd or dvd? |
| 21:29.31 | Vincent0ne- | gosh that is hard way of doing things |
| 21:29.39 | doctormo | eptalon: nope, cd drive was borked, no ability to boot from network or usb. |
| 21:30.04 | Vincent0ne- | that would be in the bios |
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| 21:30.10 | eptalon | doctormo: Havent used a floppy disk in ages. |
| 21:30.24 | eptalon | Vincent0ne-: not all boxes support booting form usb |
| 21:30.35 | Vincent0ne- | I dont have a floppy drive installed to my pc, I couldnt been bothered installing one |
| 21:30.38 | doctormo | Vincent0ne-: which it isn't, it does have a usb 1.0 port though. |
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| 21:31.04 | doctormo | DSL has this cool boot floppy that boots then from usb. |
| 21:31.06 | eptalon | doctormo: USB1 -USB1.1 -USB2 is mainly speed. |
| 21:31.14 | doctormo | But it's install options are rather ragtag |
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| 21:33.00 | doctormo | Perhaps I'll try an update to the bios, long shot I know. |
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| 21:38.33 | doctormo | odd, I think my connection dropped |
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| 21:40.04 | sep | !ops ^SertaP, is spamming porn links on join |
| 21:40.05 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: sep complains about: ^SertaP, is spamming porn links on join |
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| 21:40.31 | sep | ta |
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| 21:41.34 | doctormo | I wonder if I should try a sarge floppy, if I can find one. the etch one fails, reporting missing and incorrect values in syslinux.sys |
| 21:41.59 | eptalon | doctormo: updating an installed system is easy |
| 21:42.30 | doctormo | eptalon: right, but you try finding a mirror that still has sarge |
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| 21:42.44 | eptalon | doctormo: "oldstable"? |
| 21:43.00 | doctormo | good point |
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| 21:44.20 | sep | !archive |
| 21:44.21 | dpkg | hmm... archive is a collection of files. 'tar', 'ar', 'cpio' are all archiving tools. This is *not* the same as compression, which is a separate operation. Maybe: http://www.debian.org/distrib/archive or even http://snapshot.debian.net, or http://archive.debian.org/ |
| 21:44.22 | doctormo | eptalon: http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/ no old stable on this mirror, unless it's hiding :-D |
| 21:44.37 | sep | doctormo, it's moved to archive |
| 21:44.38 | dutchfish | enouf, 1 step futher got it finally compiled but still left with errors and cant load http://debian.pastebin.com/m147c0602 |
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| 21:45.42 | dutchfish | enouf, kqemu compiles and works fine |
| 21:45.53 | dutchfish | enouf, my cpu does support VT |
| 21:46.19 | dutchfish | enouf, kvm itself does load |
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| 21:46.28 | doctormo | thanks sep |
| 21:46.29 | chrisw | hi all, I've got some weird DNS lookup failures happening: http://paste.ubuntu.com/112586/ (yes, this is on Ubuntu, and I've tried #ubuntu, but no-one's even answering there...) I wondered if anyone here had seen similar on Debian? |
| 21:46.52 | Eulex | !ubuntu |
| 21:46.52 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
| 21:46.54 | doctormo | chrisw: #ubuntu isn't a good place to ask questions. |
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| 21:47.15 | chrisw | yes, but I don't want to quite rightly get flamed for asking questions which might be Ubuntu-caused here... |
| 21:47.41 | chrisw | however, I'm at a bit of a loss on this one... it seems a percentage of DNS lookups (and only a percentage!) just fail for no apparent reason |
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| 21:48.11 | chrisw | I see some oddness in a tcpdump of the eth0 in question, and I see the errors as in the paste when using dig or nslookup, but I'm at a loss as to what to do about them... |
| 21:48.26 | doctormo | chrisw: I have dns problems where on wifi it takes 5 seconds to resolve. but i can't be bothered to fix it. |
| 21:48.33 | Eulex | you could ask #networking, perhaps, but this IS the wrong channel |
| 21:49.03 | chrisw | Eulex: cool, thanks, I'll try there... |
| 21:49.21 | dutchfish | chrisw, can you rinse and repeat with dig -t A google.com ? |
| 21:50.26 | chrisw | dutchfish: http://paste.ubuntu.com/112587/ |
| 21:50.50 | dutchfish | chrisw, that one looks fine |
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| 21:51.41 | chrisw | you want me to try for .co.uk too? |
| 21:52.14 | chrisw | http://paste.ubuntu.com/112588/ |
| 21:52.17 | chrisw | weirder and weirder |
| 21:52.18 | dutchfish | chrisw, you query an adress in the form dig -t A foo.ext ... not dif foo.ext |
| 21:53.36 | dutchfish | chrisw, think your 192.168.1.1 is hosed, what is this? a hardware device? |
| 21:53.37 | chrisw | dutchfish: ok, but I'm not sure what you're trying to tell me |
| 21:53.51 | chrisw | dutchfish: well, it's a DSL router that does caching DNS |
| 21:54.01 | chrisw | BUT it works fine for all the windows machines on the network... |
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| 21:55.17 | dutchfish | chrisw, reply from unexpected source: 194.72.9.34#53, expected 192.168.1.1#53 says it all, that means something is leaking through your 192.168.1.1 |
| 21:55.53 | chrisw | well ok, but howcome the windows machines are all happy then? |
| 21:56.11 | chrisw | and how come some lookups work just fine? |
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| 21:56.37 | doctormo | huh, the sarge boot doesn't have the syslinux.sys errors, but it still resets the computer after the inital load. I'm lost as to what's going on. |
| 21:56.41 | dutchfish | chrisw, am i correct that the first lookup is fine but the second isnt? then it means something is fishy about its cashing |
| 21:57.06 | edt | chrisw they are saying you have a holey firewall - eg your dsl router is not working correctly. windows probably just does not notice the anomily |
| 21:57.23 | dutchfish | edt, bingo |
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| 21:57.48 | chrisw | edt: well, that's cute and all, btu windows *does* work and I've no other indications that there's a problem with the router other than networking under linux is hosed |
| 21:58.02 | chrisw | unfortunately, this just ends up with linux lookup bad :-( |
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| 21:58.54 | dutchfish | chrisw, if you want proove just install wire-shark on your windoze box watch and shiver .... |
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| 21:59.02 | doctormo | chrisw: well, only if your not thinking right. The router can be made out to be broken. |
| 21:59.03 | edt | chrisw and probably you end up with a windows that is compromised, since its not sensing your router's firewall has holes... |
| 21:59.32 | chrisw | *sigh* |
| 21:59.52 | edt | chrisw duthfish had some good advice |
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| 22:00.04 | chrisw | well, I'm coming from a "how do I get this f*cking box to work" perspective, not a "you're right, I'm wrong" perspective... |
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| 22:00.34 | chrisw | I've fun wireshark and tcpdump plenty of times, thankyou... and it shows some interesting stuff here, but I can't turn that into a fix for the problem |
| 22:00.45 | chrisw | happy to post the tcpdump trace here if anyone's interested... |
| 22:00.46 | ldiamond | Does anyone here know how to get surround 5.1 sound ? and be able to easily switch between headphones, 2.1 and 5.1? |
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| 22:01.13 | dutchfish | chrisw, nobody said that, but security first, and there are plenty of tools to check now thta you have being warned |
| 22:02.05 | edt | chrisw you could also just turnoff the in router dns forwarder and put real dns addresses in your resolv.conf |
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| 22:02.32 | chrisw | I could, if I could find out what the dns server addresses are :-S |
| 22:02.33 | dutchfish | chrisw, i am intrested in your /etc/network/interfaces file if thats ok along with /etc/resolv.conf that i eat my hat if it is not your firewall ... |
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| 22:03.25 | chrisw | http://paste.ubuntu.com/112592/ |
| 22:03.33 | hatter | how can i stop my screen turning after after a period of time when the console is being displayed ? |
| 22:04.03 | edt | first remove the second nameserver line |
| 22:04.04 | chrisw | hatter: go look for screen saver settings, likely lurking somewhere in the system preferences |
| 22:04.08 | dutchfish | chrisw, one more check: dig @[your isp dns server ip address] -t A google.com |
| 22:04.11 | simonrvn | your screen turning what? |
| 22:04.19 | Vincent0ne- | probley blank |
| 22:04.32 | hatter | simonrvn, monitor goes blank |
| 22:04.38 | hatter | power save or something |
| 22:05.05 | dutchfish | chrisw, your interfaces file is incorrect |
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| 22:05.36 | hatter | no d-e , just console |
| 22:05.41 | chrisw | dutchfish: done, do I need to re-start anything after removing that line? |
| 22:05.51 | edt | no |
| 22:06.07 | chrisw | dutchfish: would happilly do so if I could tell what the DNS servers are, but the router hides that info pretty well :-( |
| 22:06.18 | chrisw | and what's wrong with the interfaces file? |
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| 22:06.39 | dutchfish | chrisw, there should be statements about eth0 |
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| 22:07.23 | chrisw | well, I'm talking to you from pidgeon on the computer in question, so its working somehow ;-) |
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| 22:07.55 | dutchfish | chrisw, anyway you can ask that the ubuntu guys, i am not confident with that |
| 22:08.21 | chrisw | pretend it's debian ;-) |
| 22:08.28 | chrisw | I don't think the issue is ubuntu specifi |
| 22:08.31 | dutchfish | !interfaces |
| 22:08.31 | dpkg | Your network configuration is in the file /etc/network/interfaces ; "man 5 interfaces" for docs, (zless /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz for an example). Start and stop your networking with ifup -a and ifdown -a respectively. See also <dhcp client>, read "man resolv.conf" for DNS. Also ask me about <static route>. |
| 22:08.32 | edt | dutchfish pretty pointless since it really lools to be a router problem |
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| 22:08.41 | dutchfish | edt, yes |
| 22:08.51 | chrisw | if I change resolv.conf, do I need to restart networking? if so, how would I do that on debian? |
| 22:08.56 | Vincent0ne- | u can pretend ubuntu is debian since its based on debian |
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| 22:09.02 | needle | chrisw: vi /etc/resolv.conf |
| 22:09.11 | edt | after changing resolv.conf you do not have to restart networking |
| 22:09.16 | chrisw | ok |
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| 22:09.49 | needle | chrisw: also check route -n there must me a default route to your gateway |
| 22:10.10 | twisted` | hey, how can I use the files given on: http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/main/installer-i386/current/images/hd-media |
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| 22:10.26 | Richard1000 | salve |
| 22:10.27 | twisted` | I cannot find any documentation for it, or I'm just looking in the wrong spot... |
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| 22:11.20 | edt | chrisw I am making a bit of a guess here but you might solve the problem by inserting a nameserver 194.72.9.34 line just before the one with 192.168.1.1 |
| 22:11.35 | dutchfish | twisted`, maybe like this: http://wiki.flimzy.com/index.php/Install_Debian_on_USB ? |
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| 22:11.44 | szymon_g | hi |
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| 22:12.07 | edt | I am guessing that 194.72.9.34 is your isp's name server since that address leaked thru your router's natting |
| 22:12.30 | dutchfish | edt, or a mitm |
| 22:13.06 | chrisw | edt: indeed it does solve it, but I wonder why linux isn't happy playing with a router that works fine for other machines? |
| 22:13.24 | chrisw | why do you say "leaked through"? |
| 22:13.54 | dutchfish | chrisw, your router should only nonour respons traffic ... thats why |
| 22:14.02 | dutchfish | s/nonour/honour |
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| 22:14.37 | dutchfish | chrisw, that is if it should work as a firewall |
| 22:15.14 | dutchfish | chrisw, aparently it doesnt it just ... ehe ...routes |
| 22:15.15 | szymon_g | are packages in debian (lenny) compiled with -fstack-protector :? |
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| 22:16.13 | chrisw | so how come windows understands the responses and linux refuses to? |
| 22:16.49 | edt | chrisw linux is defending you against spoofed packets, widows is not... |
| 22:17.00 | rafuch0 | hey did someone has bought this laptop http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=prodawards&maincat_no=135&cat2_no=&cat3_no=&prod_no=1513#menu |
| 22:17.07 | rafuch0 | ? |
| 22:17.12 | dutchfish | chrisw, because you prolly have your firewall alla windwos enabled in you win desktops, and they simply query agin and again and agin till satisfied without complaining |
| 22:17.35 | chrisw | edt: or perhaps some DNS caching extensions that linux doesn't know about? ;-) |
| 22:17.54 | garu | can someone tell about a good how to on configuring a dhcp server on a debian etch server?I want to use an ldap/kerberos server to connect to it afterwards. |
| 22:17.55 | edt | chris if you send a request to 192.168.1.1 your response should come from the same address |
| 22:18.07 | edt | in your case its not always happening |
| 22:18.18 | edt | this is not correct in the tcpip sense |
| 22:19.01 | chrisw | dutchfish: no idea what you're trying to convey... the router is likely running bsd (given that it's a little Dratek box) and I've not had any problems with it here or other hopuses where I've put in similar devices... |
| 22:19.01 | twisted` | dutchfish: thanks but that's installin debian on usb :) I want to install debian from usb :) but I found a guide! hooray! tryin it now: http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/i386/ch04s04.html |
| 22:19.02 | edt | linux is rightly assuming you are getting spoofed packets |
| 22:19.02 | dutchfish | me nods to twisted` |
| 22:19.05 | edt | it come down to the fact, that in this case, linux is the more secure os |
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| 22:19.53 | VI_Lenin | Hi people! Please help me: I've added 'route' commands into dhclient-exit-hooks.d dir, and they work, but right after that routing table is changed back to original state. |
| 22:21.48 | edt | chrisw at least now it should usually work. You could still the the problem if 194.72.9.34 fails to respond and linux uses the alternate dns 192.168.1.1 |
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| 22:23.05 | edt | chrisw I would raise a bug with the Dratek box producers... |
| 22:23.18 | chrisw | and they will say "no problem, works fine on windows"... |
| 22:23.36 | chrisw | it is, unfortunately, this kind of thing that inhibits linux uptake |
| 22:23.39 | dutchfish | chrisw, no it does not |
| 22:24.04 | edt | or if your isp is branding the box tell them its is sending you spoofed dns packets. If you install a good fw on windows its going to complain too |
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| 22:24.52 | chrisw | remains unconvinced |
| 22:25.57 | chrisw | I've used heavilly firewalled windows laptops on this network before and had no problems |
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| 22:25.58 | edt | chrisw to me this looks like a case where either the isp or Dratek just does not care about security - in the end this will bite them but they probably will get away with it for a while... |
| 22:26.52 | chrisw | define "a while" |
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| 22:27.07 | chrisw | I'm really not convinced that the box or isp is actually doing anything wrong here |
| 22:27.36 | dutchfish | chrisw, assuming here you havent hosed your linux machine, again check with wire-shark to find out |
| 22:27.39 | chrisw | I've seen no evidence of other problems with this type of box, and this "problem" has so far only manifested itself on a linux desktop install |
| 22:27.43 | edt | chrisw untill some malware/virus uses the exploit to infect/break windows - who know how long that will take... |
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| 22:28.23 | dutchfish | silently gives up |
| 22:28.27 | garu | can someone help me out here.I'm trying to setup a dhcp server on a virtual machine, and I have another server with ldap/kerberos servers on another virtual machine. I'm trying to install the dhcp server so that I can have the ldap/kerberos use it. |
| 22:28.28 | chrisw | makes a note to look at the /etc/resolv.conf on his debian box when he gets home, since it's sitting behind the same model of router and has never exhibitted this problem... |
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| 22:29.08 | edt | chrisw are both routers running the same firmware level? If not update the failing one to the same as the home box. |
| 22:29.10 | chrisw | garu: what virtualisation software are you using? |
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| 22:30.07 | chrisw | edt: this has *never* been a problem with my debian box, which I've had for years and has had two different routers (same make, slightly different models) and lots of different versions of firmware of the two during the 7 or so years |
| 22:30.25 | garu | chrisw vmware |
| 22:30.48 | chrisw | well, I know nothing about getting multiple virtual machines to talk to each other ;-) |
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| 22:31.55 | garu | chrisw at the moment I have each of them getting the ip addresses directly from the router |
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| 22:34.00 | dutchfish | garu, since i know nothing about vmware i cant help you with that. But i do have virtual nets running happely from a bridge or a routed setup, its not hat hard with kvm and xen, so it should be paossible in vmware too |
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| 22:34.37 | garu | chrisw I didnt even know I needed a dhcp server and a dns server.then I saw on a guide that I needed one. I wanted to have 1 debian server with everything on it.(1 ldap server, 1 kerberos kdc, 1 dhcp server and 1 dns server), and I'd have 2 other virtual machines, 1 with windows and another with linux |
| 22:35.25 | batcoder-7 | whats your guys choice of ftp |
| 22:35.28 | batcoder-7 | clients? |
| 22:36.52 | gray-- | .... /usr/bin/ftp ? |
| 22:37.02 | batcoder-7 | thats what you use? |
| 22:37.14 | gray-- | yeah..... do you not? |
| 22:37.17 | simonrvn | lftp... it's not just D[D[D[D[D[D[Dfor ftp |
| 22:37.24 | simonrvn | s/D[D[D[D[D[D[D// |
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| 22:38.46 | batcoder-7 | my biggest issue is finding something that i can edit files with as well |
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| 22:39.47 | dutchfish | batcoder-7, why not log into that box with ssh and use your favorite or setup a tunnel with your favorite encrypted rfs? |
| 22:39.52 | simonrvn | that's what editors are for. such a client isn't made for that. |
| 22:39.59 | batcoder-7 | rfs? |
| 22:40.07 | dutchfish | remote file system |
| 22:40.09 | batcoder-7 | and this is not ssh |
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| 22:40.55 | eptalon | Whence would I get a 2.6.28 kernel built for debian? |
| 22:40.55 | batcoder-7 | ah i see what you are saying |
| 22:40.55 | dutchfish | batcoder-7, ftp is insecure as you probably know? |
| 22:41.23 | eptalon | batcoder-7: ftp is probably the worst you can use; use ssh/sftp/scp |
| 22:41.32 | rjent_ | could someone help me figure out how to push to my_account@alioth.debian.org:~/public_git/my_app? |
| 22:41.35 | coppercore | sftp imo |
| 22:41.38 | batcoder-7 | yea i know |
| 22:41.52 | batcoder-7 | i think godaddy only uses ftp though |
| 22:41.59 | coppercore | sftp > * |
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| 22:43.11 | batcoder-7 | they should phase out FTP |
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| 22:45.49 | coppercore | using ftp on a secured LAN though isn't a bad idea |
| 22:45.53 | coppercore | much quicker |
| 22:46.19 | batcoder-7 | one thing i just can't stand is i can't get curlftpfs to work |
| 22:46.30 | brian17 | hello |
| 22:47.13 | brian17 | i am running debian etch, one of my users has perfect sound and supertux plays fine. However a second user has no sound, and tux doesn't move in the game "supertux" |
| 22:47.26 | brian17 | i am baffled, i have tried alsamixer alsaconf ect... |
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| 22:49.07 | brian17 | anyone have fix or similar problemo |
| 22:49.24 | arinko | Is there a tool for the GIMP that traces around something, so as to generate a dark border? (Alternatively, generate text with borders?) |
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| 22:50.41 | aifnord | arinko: if you copy the layer, lower it below the original, color it all black (with the gradient tool, for instance) and then do a gaussian blur or expand it, you'll get roughly the same effect |
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| 22:51.29 | hachi | on an NFS root debian box, how are you supposed to keep the OS from shutting down portmap at shutdown time? |
| 22:51.35 | hachi | I could do an update-rc.d |
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| 22:51.52 | hachi | but then that will get overwritten at next install time for portmap |
| 22:52.11 | dutchfish | enouf, hit me, kvm-intel is integrated into the kernel in 2.6.28.x i forgot .... |
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| 22:52.45 | themill | dpkg, no, wwlr is <reply>Lenny (5.0) will release when it's ready, with a tentative release date being set for February 14, 2009. See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2009/02/msg00000.html for details. Also ask me about <lenny status> <lenny release notes> <lenny pool>. |
| 22:52.46 | dpkg | themill: okay |
| 22:54.35 | feitingen | hachi: rename /etc/rc.S/Kxxportmap to /etc/rc.S/Sxxportmap? or was that what you was thinking? |
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| 22:55.21 | hachi | that happens to be the same thing as calling update-rc.d |
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| 23:02.03 | sputnick | hi there |
| 23:02.11 | sputnick | is auto-apt working for you ? |
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| 23:03.04 | sputnick | I try : "auto-apt run ./configure --with-php-config=/usr/local/foobar/php-5.2.8/bin/php-config" but that don't do anything more than without auto-apt :/ |
| 23:03.09 | hatter | how do i turn off power save mode for my monitor on the console ? |
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| 23:05.40 | enouf | dutchfish: ya know, i was going to ask you kernel ver, but forgot while searching for some answers .. so |
| 23:05.46 | enouf | !spank dutchfish |
| 23:05.46 | dpkg | bends dutchfish over her knee and delivers a mighty *THWACK* |
| 23:05.58 | dutchfish | enouf, thank you Sir, it is all workin gnow ;) |
| 23:06.11 | enouf | :-) |
| 23:06.17 | themill | !wayttd sputnick |
| 23:06.17 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, sputnick? |
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| 23:06.38 | hatter | found it : /etc/condole-tools/config |
| 23:06.42 | hatter | 'console' |
| 23:07.01 | dutchfish | enouf, and yes, curent kernel and m-a with kvm also works (have checked that) ... flawless |
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| 23:07.43 | sputnick | dpkg: I try to run auto-apt successfully. I'm interested by the resolving dependencies solution, I don't care how install a particular package |
| 23:07.43 | dpkg | sputnick: You are moron #1 |
| 23:07.48 | sputnick | ? |
| 23:07.51 | dutchfish | enouf, back to drawing board to solve some minor virtio with 2.6.28.2 |
| 23:08.11 | sputnick | themill: see above ;) |
| 23:08.48 | themill | sputnick: have you run auto-apt update, auto-apt updatedb and auto-apt update-local? |
| 23:08.59 | enouf | dutchfish: explain, .. which 'current kernel'? ...you mean intel VT is in, amd's SVN(?) isn't? |
| 23:09.07 | dutchfish | enouf, i also got grub booting from soft raid working with a sep dm0 for / and dm1 for swap and dm2 for /boot |
| 23:09.17 | enouf | http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=387179464257921eb9aa3d15cc3ff194f6945a7c |
| 23:09.19 | sputnick | themill: sure, yes |
| 23:09.26 | dutchfish | enouf, yes kvm-intel |
| 23:09.27 | themill | sputnick: btw /usr/local/foobar/php-5.2.8 looks pretty suspicious on a debian box.... |
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| 23:09.44 | dutchfish | enouf, 64 bit iwth debians amd64 flavour |
| 23:09.48 | sputnick | themill: I compile a package with a certain path |
| 23:10.10 | cads | if I install a compositing WM, will gnome use my laptop's inbuilt video acceleration? |
| 23:10.19 | cads | I feel like my cpu is drawing my windows now |
| 23:10.24 | dutchfish | enouf, yes, zilch needed (kvm source) for 2.6.28.2 |
| 23:10.31 | hachi | cads: depends on the card |
| 23:10.32 | themill | sputnick: I'm just not sure how you expect dependency resolution to work anyway when you're recompiling lots of packages that are already in debian |
| 23:10.41 | cads | but in ubuntu I had nice window border transparancies and things ran smoothly |
| 23:10.41 | enouf | dutchfish: ahh, ok - got it |
| 23:10.42 | hachi | some cards don't have an acceleration driver in xorg |
| 23:10.57 | dutchfish | enouf, hence my confusion ... |
| 23:11.02 | hachi | debian doesn't include non-free drivers by default |
| 23:11.16 | cads | mine does, but it may not be enabled, what should I use to see if I have direct rendering activated? |
| 23:11.32 | enouf | glxinfo |
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| 23:11.40 | sputnick | themill: are you experienced a good behavior of auto-apt ? |
| 23:11.42 | dutchfish | enouf, i got caught by m-a safety net, refusing to compile and install it ... great ;) |
| 23:11.50 | enouf | heh |
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| 23:13.21 | themill | sputnick: I've never tried auto-apt at all, but there would be some serious bugs in the BTS were it to be completely defective. |
| 23:13.47 | sputnick | BTS ? |
| 23:13.57 | enouf | ugh |
| 23:13.58 | dutchfish | enouf, aparently m-a wont make a diversion if its already in the stock kernel |
| 23:14.01 | themill | dpkg: tell sputnick about bts |
| 23:14.20 | sputnick | ok, thanks |
| 23:14.58 | sputnick | themill: if my english is sufficient, you said auto-apt is broken ? |
| 23:15.07 | dutchfish | enouf, but a better warning would have pointed me sooner to the real problem ... but thats only cosmitic |
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| 23:15.57 | dustybin | did richard stallman code ls,mv,cp, etc? |
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| 23:17.22 | lynucs | #debian-overflow? when did the channel start? |
| 23:17.53 | lynucs | and what's the limit for #debian? |
| 23:18.00 | hachi | well |
| 23:18.05 | hachi | a quick glance at the channel modes |
| 23:18.09 | hachi | I'd say 706 is the limit |
| 23:18.19 | lynucs | why? |
| 23:18.27 | hachi | #debian(+JLPcflnt 10,3 #debian-overflow 706) |
| 23:18.34 | lynucs | what's the reason? |
| 23:18.50 | hachi | not my channel, I dunno |
| 23:19.00 | lynucs | strange |
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| 23:19.14 | lynucs | *gulp* |
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| 23:26.54 | sputnick | dustybin: find /usr/share/man -name '*.gz' -exec zgrep -il stallman {} \; | sed -r 's@.*/@@g; s@\..*@@' |
| 23:27.12 | sputnick | that make a list of man pages with stallman inside |
| 23:28.06 | dustybin | sputnick: jesus lord |
| 23:28.15 | sputnick | what ? :° |
| 23:29.37 | dustybin | sputnick: the list is still going down the screen |
| 23:29.49 | dustybin | stallman ftw |
| 23:29.54 | vphelipe | all = gays |
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| 23:30.09 | sputnick | | sort -u |
| 23:30.19 | sputnick | find /usr/share/man -name '*.gz' -exec zgrep -il stallman {} \; | sed -r 's@.*/@@g; s@\..*@@' | sort -u |
| 23:30.48 | themill | that gets a lot of false positives too, e.g. man 7 debhelper |
| 23:32.08 | sputnick | need to be more specific ;) |
| 23:34.02 | sputnick | find /usr/share/man* -name '*.gz' -exec zgrep -il "richard.*stallman" {} \; | sed -r 's@.*/@@g; s@\..*@@' | sort -u |
| 23:34.46 | sputnick | (take a while) |
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| 23:41.31 | twisted` | anyone here with debian on a macbook? |
| 23:41.39 | twisted` | cause I'm about to throw mine out of the window |
| 23:41.49 | sputnick | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:41.51 | sputnick | cat comm condom diff dir echo gdb gdbserver gdbtui ls make rm split standards tee uniq vdir |
| 23:41.52 | sputnick | real 5m29.197s |
| 23:42.21 | twisted` | condom?! wtf |
| 23:42.23 | sputnick | mwahaha :) condom |
| 23:42.36 | sputnick | "condom - protection against viruses and prevention of child processes" |
| 23:42.46 | sputnick | mwa ha ha ha :D))) |
| 23:42.52 | twisted` | roflmfao |
| 23:44.15 | sputnick | that's /usr/share/man/man1/condom.1fun.gz |
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| 23:44.42 | sputnick | provided by funny-manpages :) |
| 23:44.54 | twisted` | hmm well atm I'm not so amused |
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| 23:45.14 | twisted` | for some reason debian refuses to either install grub, lilo on my macbook, it seems to wanna install elilo but that refuses to boot for some reason |
| 23:45.57 | twisted` | but give me an helpful error? oh no... no it can't do that |
| 23:46.29 | twisted` | is it teh chuck from teh nerd hurd? |
| 23:46.30 | twisted` | maybe he knows :p |
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| 23:46.38 | twisted` | I've go a computer emergency right here :p |
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| 23:53.06 | mardi | debian woooooo!! |
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