| 00:00.09 | Thasp | so the other half can't complain about wires running all over the apartment |
| 00:00.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | Thasp, ok... you want to have MANY potential sources of failure all at once, then don't listen and keep wondering if it's connection or something with the key or whatever |
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| 00:00.22 | themill | ringo999: apt-file will have told you a package name too though |
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| 00:02.06 | ringo999 | themill: aha..thanks ;-) |
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| 00:03.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | mind, I didn't tell you to keep your connection unencrypted (although it's not a bead idea - someone might be pleased) but to switch it off for debugging |
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| 00:05.55 | jhamlin | themill: yeah I did. It turned out that I needed to install povray-includes even though that is not suggested or recommended by kpovmodeler. anyway, got it working thanks |
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| 00:07.02 | themill | jhamlin: no worries. (that package is recommended by povray itself though... if you had automatic installation of recommended packages installed, it would have worked for you!) |
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| 00:07.48 | mns | All right, here is an interesting situation: hostA has X11 running on it, hostB does not. hostB has a keyboard and mouse attached to it and a driver that sends the mouse and keyboard codes over a socket to hostA which passes them to the X11 server it is running. This would allow the hostB keyboard/mouse to be the input and hostA X11 as the display screen. How would I go about getting the keyboard and mouse codes into the input event |
| 00:07.48 | mns | processing on hostA ? |
| 00:07.58 | jikbag | How do you set a per user umask? |
| 00:08.19 | mns | hostA is a Linux system. |
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| 00:11.16 | nsadmin | jikbag it's ok for user to change their umask to anything after set? |
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| 00:13.27 | nsadmin | if yes, put the command to do it in a file their login shell reads |
| 00:13.30 | jikbag | nsadmin: I would like it to be automatically set when they login. .bash_profile and .bashrc don't seem to work. |
| 00:13.58 | nsadmin | why don't they work? |
| 00:13.59 | jikbag | nsadmin: something is running after the login scripts to overwrite the umask |
| 00:14.04 | nsadmin | not using bash? |
| 00:14.15 | jikbag | yes, I am using bash |
| 00:14.26 | nsadmin | so this is for you as plain user |
| 00:14.36 | nsadmin | so you have to find what sets umask after |
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| 00:15.20 | ma3x | i need internet explorer to run on debian. what do you suggest? |
| 00:15.34 | ma3x | is IEs4Linux recommended? |
| 00:15.39 | dkr | wine? |
| 00:15.49 | nsadmin | break into the building, steal the source code and build it! |
| 00:15.58 | ringo999 | why would anyone want to use wtorrent for rtorrent? why not just ssh login and save resources used for webserver etc.? |
| 00:16.18 | dkr | nsadmin: mitnick solaris style! a'ight, now ya talkin' |
| 00:17.05 | ma3x | what's wtorrent? |
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| 00:19.41 | nsadmin | of course, you could always go back in time and make sure bill never gets an operating system... |
| 00:20.36 | ringo999 | ma3x: its a webinterface for rtorrent |
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| 00:24.50 | NickMind_XPBOX | Hi all, trying to configure my serial port for a terminal connection. |
| 00:25.08 | abrotman | NickMind_XPBOX: google "serial howto |
| 00:25.21 | NickMind_XPBOX | One thing I don't know if linux is see my serial port and configared properly. |
| 00:25.54 | NickMind_XPBOX | abrotman: thanks |
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| 00:35.44 | Gigantic | so... what are you supposed to do when you are getting *** buffer overflow detected *** |
| 00:35.50 | Gigantic | change the whole pc? |
| 00:36.00 | abrotman | programming error ? |
| 00:36.18 | Gigantic | apt-get install error |
| 00:36.39 | Gigantic | it gave me a memory map and all the stuff |
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| 00:37.14 | Gigantic | libc and libpng were afected, just reinstalled tho |
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| 00:37.49 | Gigantic | I used memtest for 3 days like a month ago and found no errors |
| 00:38.06 | \amethyst | Gigantic: was the crash in apt-get itself or something it was calling? |
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| 00:39.28 | Gigantic | I was installing python tk and got *** buffer overflow detected *** ... and many lines like: 7fe013342000-7fe013343000 rw-p 00153000 08:11 36904 /lib64/libc-2.9.s |
| 00:39.47 | \amethyst | Gigantic: err, is this Debian? |
| 00:39.57 | Gigantic | yup Etch |
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| 00:40.10 | \amethyst | Gigantic: where is libc 2.9 coming from? |
| 00:40.25 | Gigantic | dunno |
| 00:40.43 | ewet | hi, did anyone succeed in building miro 2.0 on a debian lenny machine yet? sharing ideas? :-) |
| 00:40.47 | Gigantic | it's lenny-etch |
| 00:41.02 | \amethyst | Gigantic: libc 2.9 isn't in lenny either, only experimental |
| 00:41.06 | themill | judd versions libc6 |
| 00:41.08 | judd | themill: libc6 -- etch: 2.3.6.ds1-13etch7 lenny: 2.7-18 sid: 2.7-18 experimental: 2.9-0exp2 |
| 00:41.21 | Gigantic | mmm |
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| 00:41.54 | themill | Gigantic: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 00:42.11 | Gigantic | maybe I put the wrong sources list at some moment |
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| 00:44.36 | Gigantic | aah |
| 00:44.53 | Gigantic | stupid haskell... I know what happened ty |
| 00:45.35 | abrotman | haskell messed up your sources? |
| 00:45.57 | abrotman | ewet: need more details if you want help |
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| 00:47.29 | debianforlife | I'm running lenny AMD64, how do I tell if a certain program is running in 32bit or 64bit? |
| 00:47.51 | abrotman | unless you've done something special, it's 64bit |
| 00:48.28 | debianforlife | say I'm running a program that is 32 bit, and I know it, how do make debian confirm that for me? |
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| 00:51.25 | ewet | abrotman: i compiled miro 2.0 following this guide: https://develop.participatoryculture.org/trac/democracy/wiki/GTKX11BuildDocs however i am facing these errors: http://pastebin.com/m58979761 |
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| 00:52.39 | Baneo | is there any way to open ports without root access? i have physical access to the machine |
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| 00:53.16 | abrotman | you'll have to ask them .. doesn't make sense to me other than python is a pain :) |
| 00:53.46 | dkr | Baneo: you only need root to bind a port lower than 1024 |
| 00:54.16 | \amethyst | debianforlife: you can run file on the executable |
| 00:55.08 | dkr | invisible quote |
| 00:55.18 | unitypunk | if i have a samba share and windows dosent need a username and password what should i use in this xml file for user/password? |
| 00:55.50 | debianforlife | \amethyst: thanks for the tip |
| 00:55.55 | dkr | an empty string? |
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| 00:58.31 | mns | Is there a room for X11/x.org ? |
| 00:59.04 | unitypunk | dkr like a spac? |
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| 00:59.26 | icebrain | mns: do you mean #xorg? |
| 00:59.46 | dkr | unitypunk: <username></username> |
| 00:59.48 | mns | ahh . I was doing x.org .. no wonder I didn't get it .. |
| 00:59.52 | mns | thanks icebrain |
| 00:59.57 | unitypunk | dkr did that |
| 01:00.07 | unitypunk | said error in xmb.xml |
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| 01:00.23 | dkr | that's a rather curt error message |
| 01:00.27 | unitypunk | yeah |
| 01:00.28 | unitypunk | i know |
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| 01:00.47 | unitypunk | but the only thing i changed was <server></server> |
| 01:00.51 | dkr | why is this xml, anyway? what are you using to mount? |
| 01:01.03 | unitypunk | xml is for an app on ps2 |
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| 01:01.28 | K_Dallas | Hi guys! I was reading the status report on Lenny which is dated Feb 1st, and it says deep freeze! Does it mean that the copy that I have downloaded on Feb 2nd, is actually final ? Thanks |
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| 01:01.44 | K_Dallas | (or I have to wait untill 14th) |
| 01:02.54 | ewet | abrotman: errm a very dark and dirty hack installing the ubuntu h...(what was it?) package and ignoring the libffi4 (lenny has libffi5) did it... we'll see *g* |
| 01:03.05 | abrotman | icky |
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| 01:04.39 | dkr | K_Dallas: no, it's not final, more like a release candidate |
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| 01:05.31 | K_Dallas | dkr, the difference would be on installer or the packages are also prone to change? What if I install what I have and do an update when it is final? Would it be all right? |
| 01:05.33 | ewet | abrotman: i had to have a win after that mess ;-) |
| 01:06.38 | dkr | K_Dallas: anything could change if a big bug is noticed, but not likely in the installer. installing now and updating later would probably be fine |
| 01:06.49 | K_Dallas | dkr, thanks |
| 01:07.35 | pflanze | Hm, /etc/hibernate/suspend2.conf says "Suspend2 is an improved version of suspend-to-disk which currently requires patching your kernel." Is this still true as of kernel.org kernel 2.6.28.4 ? |
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| 01:15.09 | NickMind_XPBOX | just a quick check, to make sure this will work. Could I setup my serial port on linux for termial login via getty, connect to my other pc via null modem cable running putty on its serial port? |
| 01:15.40 | xfader | Hi all, I am looking for an open source email archiving solution. Basically I want to export emails from MS outlook into an archiving system which can then be searched and have basic security functions. Does such a thing exist? |
| 01:15.41 | dkr | NickMind_XPBOX: yes |
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| 01:16.48 | abrotman | don't windows machines still come with hyperterminal ? |
| 01:17.08 | stoned | no |
| 01:17.14 | NickMind_XPBOX | abrotman: yes |
| 01:17.17 | stoned | that was a win95/98 thing |
| 01:17.22 | dkr | NickMind_XPBOX: oops, didn't catch that. putty is ssh client. you should sue terminal emulator for that |
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| 01:17.29 | stoned | I have not seen Hypter terminal on xp in a long time |
| 01:17.38 | stoned | not on a default windows install anyway, but ask ##windows |
| 01:17.38 | abrotman | stoned: uhm .. it was there in 2k and ME |
| 01:17.42 | NickMind_XPBOX | stoned: al windows os come with hyperteminal |
| 01:18.06 | NickMind_XPBOX | stoned: you have to install it from add and remove programs. |
| 01:18.08 | stoned | I see, in my install its not checked |
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| 01:18.26 | stoned | anyway |
| 01:18.38 | NickMind_XPBOX | anyways i can not get temial to work |
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| 01:18.56 | NickMind_XPBOX | i have edited inittab with the getty command |
| 01:19.02 | NickMind_XPBOX | ran init q |
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| 01:19.32 | NickMind_XPBOX | connected the null modem cable. and i don't get anything on the screen |
| 01:20.20 | NickMind_XPBOX | i run 'ps ax' and i see getty in the list |
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| 01:21.42 | NickMind_XPBOX | is there a way to check if the serial port on linux is working? |
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| 01:22.42 | jd__ | wtf is with apic and linux? |
| 01:23.05 | jd__ | should i just put noapic on every grub conf i have everytime? |
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| 01:23.29 | abrotman | jd__: works fine here ? |
| 01:23.32 | crdavids | NickMind: dmesg? |
| 01:23.34 | adama_ | NickMind_XPBOX: I think if you have /dev/ttyS* then your serial ports are ok |
| 01:23.49 | jd__ | abrotman: seems 1 in 5 boards work with apic/linux proerpelyt |
| 01:23.53 | jd__ | properly |
| 01:24.13 | jd__ | maybe i just have really bad luck |
| 01:24.17 | abrotman | jd__: home built or mass produced ? |
| 01:24.21 | jd__ | both |
| 01:24.26 | jd__ | this is a dell power edge atm |
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| 01:24.40 | jd__ | seems apic and sata2 have problems with this board |
| 01:24.50 | NickMind_XPBOX | adama_: i see /dev/ttyS0 ,1 ,2 ,3 but i have only one serial port |
| 01:25.02 | adama_ | NickMind_XPBOX: same here... |
| 01:26.44 | adama_ | NickMind_XPBOX: you could use minicom and some serial device that you know works and how to talk to it? |
| 01:27.31 | adama_ | I don't know how to enable telnet login over serial but google probably does |
| 01:27.31 | debianite | hi all, using my own server for email (postfix) after sending email mutt starts to eat 100% cpu,any ideas? |
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| 01:29.41 | karsten | Is there a recommended method for setting up encrypted user home directories, or a way of making this a default? |
| 01:29.43 | debianite | any one using mutt? |
| 01:29.50 | karsten | debianite: No, it's a myth |
| 01:29.53 | karsten | !tell debianite about ask |
| 01:30.04 | debianite | sorry? |
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| 01:30.13 | NickMind_XPBOX | adama_ : haaaaa thanks. I will try that. |
| 01:30.17 | karsten | debianite: Just ask your question. Don't ask "does anybody use..." |
| 01:30.33 | debianite | well i did. |
| 01:30.47 | karsten | debianite: Oh, there it is. |
| 01:31.22 | debianite | after sneding an email mutt starts to use 100% cpu for no reason... |
| 01:31.23 | karsten | debianite: You can attach the mutt process with strace and see what it's doing. I suspect it's not happy with your mailserver somehow. Check your postrix logs as well. |
| 01:31.27 | karsten | debianite: Yeah. |
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| 01:31.54 | abrotman | using clamav ? |
| 01:31.58 | souldier | hey |
| 01:31.59 | karsten | debianite: You'll have to debug that one, not sure what the problem is. |
| 01:32.05 | souldier | can someone help me with a crontab question |
| 01:32.08 | karsten | abrotman: You got a case of the crabs again? |
| 01:32.13 | karsten | souldier: Ask |
| 01:32.17 | karsten | !tell souldier about ask |
| 01:32.39 | karsten | debianite: ... as you might guess, "does anybody..." questions get a bit old, fast. |
| 01:32.45 | souldier | i have this 00, 30 * * * * curl --silent --compressed http://www.webapplicate.com/0123456789 > /dev/null 2>&1 and i get an error about bad minute |
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| 01:32.50 | karsten | has gotten old the old-fashioned way. Slowly. |
| 01:32.57 | karsten | souldier: comma |
| 01:32.58 | debianite | karsten: thanks, but what is strace? |
| 01:33.03 | karsten | souldier: or rather, space. |
| 01:33.15 | karsten | !tell debianite about strace |
| 01:33.34 | esaym | aptitude is hanging at "Waiting for headers" no matter what mirror I use... Is my package database corrupt or something? :( |
| 01:33.53 | souldier | karsten: you mean 00 30 ? |
| 01:33.56 | debianite | karsten: I know, sorry. |
| 01:34.01 | souldier | now i get bad hour |
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| 01:34.04 | karsten | debianite: It's a utility that allows you to trace system calls of a process. man strace. 'strace -p <pid of your mutt process> 2>1 | tee /tmp/mutt.strace |
| 01:34.07 | ameyer | it should be 00,30 |
| 01:34.15 | karsten | debianite: ... should log to the file /tmp/mutt.strace. |
| 01:34.17 | ameyer | or 0,30 maybe |
| 01:34.28 | ameyer | both "should" work, I think |
| 01:34.34 | karsten | souldier: You need to use '00,33' if you want to specify at 0 and 33 minutes past the hour. |
| 01:34.39 | karsten | souldier: man 5 crontab. |
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| 01:35.17 | karsten | souldier: Look at the "EXTENSIONS" section. |
| 01:35.24 | ameyer | I think */30 would work |
| 01:35.34 | debianite | karsten: ok,thank you, I'm going to try that. |
| 01:35.52 | esaym | n/m gulus.usherbrooke.ca/pub/distro/debian/ is not working that is why |
| 01:35.53 | karsten | souldier: 0,30 * * * * <command> |
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| 01:36.13 | karsten | ameyer: That's an option as well. As would be two lines for 0 and 30 minutes. |
| 01:36.57 | abrotman | */30 does differ from 0,30 |
| 01:37.00 | souldier | */30 worked |
| 01:37.02 | souldier | hmm |
| 01:37.11 | souldier | i tried 0 ,30 and got error too |
| 01:37.27 | ameyer | no space between 0 and 30 |
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| 01:37.55 | souldier | thanks works ameyer |
| 01:37.57 | souldier | thanks |
| 01:38.39 | ameyer | probably should stick with 0,30 instead of */30 |
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| 01:39.07 | ameyer | isn't 100% sure 0 matches */30 |
| 01:39.49 | souldier | ameyer: yea i went with 0,30 |
| 01:40.45 | abrotman | ameyer: yes, it does .. that wasn't the difference |
| 01:41.28 | ameyer | is curious what the difference is |
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| 01:46.36 | pflanze | Does Lenny support tuxonice, or what? |
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| 01:46.46 | abrotman | support ? |
| 01:46.47 | Thasp | hmm, this card can't connect to networks with or without WEP/WPA security |
| 01:46.56 | Thasp | but my other card can connect to my AP just fine |
| 01:46.58 | pflanze | The hibernate package is printing "tuxonice" messages when invoked, |
| 01:47.08 | pflanze | but I don't see /sys/power/tuxonice/do_resume |
| 01:47.18 | Thasp | static IP or dhcp, it times out, even though it sees a signal. I am confused. |
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| 01:47.34 | abrotman | notes there seems to be a patch package for tuxonice |
| 01:47.37 | Stanlin | Yellow!!!! |
| 01:47.41 | pflanze | ok that kernel was compiled by myself. But hibernate doesn't complain about something missing from the kernel, only about some signature missing--what's that? |
| 01:48.07 | pflanze | (maybe it would complain about the kernel later on, dunno) |
| 01:48.35 | pflanze | Anyone doing successful hibernation with the 'nvidia' X driver? |
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| 01:50.37 | karsten | I'm setting up filesystem encryption for etch. Any suggestions WRT AES, blowfish, serpent, twofish? I understand AES is slower'n cold sh*t. |
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| 01:51.41 | jamon | karsten: no problems with aes here |
| 01:51.57 | Tramp | karsten: this is news to me. |
| 01:52.00 | jamon | i don't notice with 5400rpm laptop drive |
| 01:52.41 | Tramp | karsten: although personally I use twofish exclusively, but maybe just because I like Schneier |
| 01:52.42 | jd__ | how long should it take to format a 500gig drive to ext3? |
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| 01:53.08 | abrotman | jd__: go see a movie |
| 01:53.09 | dimm | hello |
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| 01:53.24 | lostson | took my 500gb external about 10 minutes |
| 01:53.36 | dimm | can i install package to home dir? yes, or no? |
| 01:53.40 | jd__ | i see |
| 01:53.45 | abrotman | jd__: it depends on the speed of the drive/bus etc |
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| 01:53.51 | karsten | Tramp: Yeah, twofish is faster than blowfish. I don't recall the specs on serpent. |
| 01:53.55 | abrotman | dimm: can you, yes, but it likely won't work right |
| 01:54.07 | jd__ | i turned apic off and my drive has tasken over 1/2 hour to format |
| 01:54.19 | karsten | Tramp: Or maybe I'm thinking of 3DES. AES is I think US gov't spec. |
| 01:54.21 | jd__ | all kinds of messages to log about scsi stuff |
| 01:54.42 | jd__ | closer to an hour |
| 01:54.45 | Tramp | karsten: yes, AES is built around the Rijndael algorithm and is the DES successor |
| 01:55.04 | jd__ | maybe linux just fails with esata? |
| 01:55.10 | karsten | Tramp: OK. |
| 01:55.12 | jd__ | is confused : |
| 01:55.13 | Tramp | karsten: and twofish (basically an "improved blowfish") was an AES finalist as well |
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| 01:56.29 | ferret_0567 | from debootstrap: E: Failed getting release file http://ftp.us.debian.org/dists/lenny/Release |
| 01:56.37 | Tramp | karsten: (as, apparently, was serpent - but I don't know much about it admittedly). I'd take either AES or twofish and not worry too much about either security or speed |
| 01:56.57 | jaggz- | I'm trying to copy a keyboard input action several times (for win+1, win+2, etc.) The interface doesn't seem to allow it (?), so I modified khotkeysrc; but how can I reload it to make the new options active? |
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| 01:57.13 | karsten | Tramp: Speed can matter. I'm leaning to twofish or serpent, trying to get the goods on serpent. |
| 01:57.14 | jaggz- | I'm in Lenny (just updated from Etch) |
| 01:57.16 | karsten | Tramp: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/text/Cryptoloop-HOWTO |
| 01:57.51 | abrotman | ferret_0567: sounds like your source line is wrong .. paste your sources.list in a pastebin |
| 01:57.54 | jaggz- | found the answer on this page I believe: http://lg.cybermirror.org/issue67/evans.html |
| 01:58.10 | pflanze | Tramp, karsten: I'm still seeing odd performance issues on my dual core laptop when using encrypted partitions (but partly also with unencrypted ones, so not sure how much of a culprit it is). |
| 01:58.15 | karsten | Tramp: ... which notes that AES is heavily analyzed and has no known weaknesses. serpent is throught to be stronger, but is slower. |
| 01:58.22 | pflanze | It's not throughput, but interactivity which suffers badly. |
| 01:58.38 | ferret_0567 | abrotman: it must be wrong then, as I have no source lines |
| 01:58.41 | pflanze | The problem goes mostly away when switching off one core. |
| 01:58.49 | abrotman | ferret_0567: you don't have a deb http source ? |
| 01:58.52 | abrotman | not deb-src |
| 01:58.53 | karsten | pflanze: examples? |
| 01:59.03 | karsten | pflanze: and what cypher? |
| 01:59.03 | ferret_0567 | abrotman: nope |
| 01:59.05 | Tramp | karsten: yes, of course AES, being standard, is probably the best analyzed. |
| 01:59.13 | abrotman | ferret_0567: paste your sources.list in a pastebin |
| 01:59.42 | pflanze | I don't think it has got anything to do with the cipher. I'm using luks (not cryptoloop), that might matter more. |
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| 02:00.28 | pflanze | One example is swapping, the machine behaves much worse than usual. |
| 02:00.39 | pflanze | Another one is tests like cat /dev/somepartition. |
| 02:00.39 | karsten | Tramp: more reading: http://www.void.gr/kargig/presentations/kargig-CryptoFilesystems.pdf |
| 02:00.44 | Tramp | karsten: but I don't understand, why you use cryptoloop and not the device-mapper (dm-crypt) |
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| 02:00.59 | karsten | I'm using dm-crypt. |
| 02:01.03 | ferret_0567 | abrotman: well, it's only one line... |
| 02:01.11 | abrotman | fine .. show the line here |
| 02:01.15 | ferret_0567 | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib |
| 02:01.17 | abrotman | (you should have two .. at least |
| 02:01.21 | karsten | Tramp: Never said I wasn't. |
| 02:01.31 | Tramp | karsten: you pointed to a cryptoloop-howto |
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| 02:01.46 | abrotman | ferret_0567: and you're sure that's what it says now ? |
| 02:01.55 | ferret_0567 | abrotman: yes |
| 02:02.05 | abrotman | that's formatted correctly .. |
| 02:02.08 | ferret_0567 | abrotman: what is the updates mirror for the US? |
| 02:02.16 | karsten | Tramp: ... which had a discussion of ciphers and relative strengths / performance, which is a factor largely independent of the underlying crypto module. |
| 02:02.21 | abrotman | ferret_0567: deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib non-free |
| 02:02.30 | karsten | Tramp: But I could see how that could have mislead you ;-) |
| 02:03.22 | unitypunk | can anyone help me set up an account for samba? |
| 02:03.25 | Tramp | karsten: but to be honest, the algorithm you use is probably not the weakest point in the setup. I'm pretty sure, any algo you choose of the three is "safe enough" whatever your requrements |
| 02:03.43 | abrotman | unitypunk: don't ask to ask |
| 02:04.00 | unitypunk | i didnt think i was. |
| 02:04.08 | unitypunk | the file was blank last i looked |
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| 02:04.17 | unitypunk | and dont have any idea what it should look like |
| 02:04.19 | abrotman | "I"m trying to setup a user in samba, and blah blah blah blah" |
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| 02:04.36 | karsten | Tramp: "safe enough" is good enough for me. I'm looking at "sufficient for most reasonable purposes". There's a history behind this. After "good enough", performance is my next concern. |
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| 02:04.59 | unitypunk | i can see the shares on my vista machine, but my ps2 cant access them without a user/pass |
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| 02:05.20 | karsten | unitypunk: Yes. |
| 02:05.26 | karsten | unitypunk: That's a feature. |
| 02:05.30 | abrotman | unitypunk: make them anonymous shares ? |
| 02:05.32 | kj4 | hello. i wish to do a lenny install with xfce, for a full featured desktop machine, can that all be done from net install? |
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| 02:05.44 | abrotman | kj4: we told you before yes |
| 02:05.47 | karsten | kj4: Yes. |
| 02:05.53 | abrotman | like .. five hours ago |
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| 02:06.05 | kj4 | ?? i dont' think that was me |
| 02:06.11 | abrotman | yes it was |
| 02:06.14 | ferret_0567 | abrotman: ok, I changed lenny to testing in all of the lines in /etc/apt/sources.list, and I added your line minus the non_free |
| 02:06.24 | abrotman | both stew and i answered you .. and stew even gave you additional hints about the xfce installation CD |
| 02:06.31 | kj4 | copy paste that for me, will you? maybe i'm losing my mind? |
| 02:06.33 | abrotman | ferret_0567: and ? |
| 02:06.38 | kj4 | no, that was not me!! |
| 02:06.44 | abrotman | kj4: yes it was .. it's all in my head |
| 02:06.49 | fox-vulpes | unity: add guest = yes or ok.. cant remember |
| 02:06.50 | abrotman | the logs i mean :) |
| 02:07.11 | kj4 | ok, i get it, this is the debian noob initiation |
| 02:07.12 | ferret_0567 | abrotman: I just updated my system, then I tried debootstrap again: E: Failed getting release file http://ftp.us.debian.org/dists/testing/Release |
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| 02:07.33 | abrotman | kj4: no really .. we told you .. he even told you to `aptitude install xfce xorg` |
| 02:07.46 | abrotman | ferret_0567: point at lenny if you want lenny |
| 02:07.54 | stew | 16:45 < stew> kj4: just install without the "desktop" option, then sometime after install, run "aptitude install xfce4 xorg" 16:45 < stew> kj4: OR you can use the xfce install cds which debian provides and choose the desktop option during install |
| 02:07.58 | abrotman | ferret_0567: which version of apt do you have ? |
| 02:08.00 | abrotman | !stew++ |
| 02:08.01 | ferret_0567 | abrotman: I do not want lenny |
| 02:08.08 | abrotman | ferret_0567: you want testing ? |
| 02:08.11 | kj4 | ok. humor me then, where do i download the xfce install cds? |
| 02:08.19 | ferret_0567 | abrotman: yes |
| 02:08.21 | ferret_0567 | ii apt 0.7.20.1 Advanced front-end for dpkg |
| 02:08.22 | stew | kj4: go to debian.org and click on 'getting debian' |
| 02:08.26 | karsten | kj4: Standard netinst. |
| 02:08.31 | karsten | kj4: http://www.debian.org/ |
| 02:08.35 | stew | kj4: if you want lenny, http://debian.org/devel/debian-installer |
| 02:08.36 | ferret_0567 | abrotman: so that when lenny goes to stable, I will continue to get updates |
| 02:08.43 | abrotman | yes .. kind of |
| 02:08.47 | karsten | kj4: check under desktop tasks. I'll be there in a few. |
| 02:08.53 | karsten | is doing an etch install ATM. |
| 02:08.59 | abrotman | installs karsten |
| 02:09.02 | jd__ | hawt |
| 02:09.14 | unitypunk | abrotman they are anonymous already i think. |
| 02:09.19 | jd__ | abrotman: can you tell us what you are wearing at least? |
| 02:09.27 | unitypunk | i dont need a username or passsword to acess them from windows |
| 02:09.28 | abrotman | eh? |
| 02:09.28 | kj4 | so you guys have been here five hours? how? |
| 02:09.36 | abrotman | kj4: so have you! |
| 02:09.38 | karsten | abrotman: The install is easy but the performance tuning is a bitch. |
| 02:09.42 | unitypunk | but the xml file for the application on the ps2 needs a user/pass |
| 02:09.50 | kj4 | i have? |
| 02:09.53 | karsten | unitypunk: That's because Windows is handling your credentials transparently. |
| 02:10.05 | karsten | kj4: abrotman pays rent here. |
| 02:10.06 | abrotman | ferret_0567: put your complete sources.list in a pastebin ... |
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| 02:10.20 | unitypunk | what credentials should i use on the ps2? |
| 02:10.22 | stew | i like to move it move it |
| 02:10.25 | unitypunk | or int he xml? |
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| 02:10.41 | kj4 | i go now,humbly. |
| 02:10.48 | asg | stew: work it work it |
| 02:10.48 | kj4 | thanks everyone |
| 02:11.13 | karsten | kj4: NP |
| 02:11.22 | ferret_0567 | abrotman: if I use testing instead of lenny in the sources.list file, when lenny goes to stable, will I get updates from the new testing? |
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| 02:11.32 | stew | ferret_0567: yes |
| 02:11.36 | ferret_0567 | abrotman: http://rafb.net/p/gyI4p927.html |
| 02:11.41 | abrotman | ferret_0567: sure .. once testing opens again .. usually a couple of weeks after the release |
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| 02:11.49 | ferret_0567 | abrotman: good |
| 02:11.56 | stew | and then it will get ugly for a while |
| 02:12.04 | ferret_0567 | hahah, w/e |
| 02:12.18 | ferret_0567 | I will try to selectively update my system |
| 02:12.19 | abrotman | *ugly* |
| 02:12.29 | abrotman | it makes karsten look like a rose |
| 02:12.32 | unitypunk | so what credentials does windows use? |
| 02:12.36 | abrotman | bob |
| 02:12.45 | ferret_0567 | lol bob |
| 02:12.45 | asg | abrotman: cakebutt ugly or asg ugly? |
| 02:13.09 | ferret_0567 | asg: like sewer ugly, I'd guess |
| 02:13.12 | stew | asg: umbrella hat |
| 02:13.15 | abrotman | asg: the cakebutt was adorable :) |
| 02:13.41 | asg | grins |
| 02:14.19 | ferret_0567 | butt ugly is not as bad as sewer ugly ;) |
| 02:14.30 | abrotman | ferret_0567: no .. cakebutt |
| 02:14.38 | asg | cakebutt is a whole new genre though |
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| 02:15.55 | ferret_0567 | abrotman: so, what about my sources.list? what do I need to add to it to get the testing source repository? |
| 02:16.26 | abrotman | ferret_0567: nothing, they look perfectly fine .. but for some reason, your system is deciding to omit the "/debian/" part of the URL |
| 02:16.32 | ferret_0567 | needs to use arm objcopy so that he can extract an initrd from a arm kernel image |
| 02:17.02 | ferret_0567 | abrotman: so err...what can I do to fix it? |
| 02:17.07 | abrotman | i mean .. there's nothing wrong with them |
| 02:17.40 | Stanlin | Yellow!!!! |
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| 02:17.46 | abrotman | Stanlin: stop it, you're being annoying again |
| 02:18.11 | nsadmin | ferret_0567 debian initrds are created on the spot in response to the package being installed |
| 02:18.26 | Stanlin | you are to sensitive... hiper... like a beautiful lady |
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| 02:18.43 | abrotman | no wonder you got banned before |
| 02:18.46 | asg | abrotman: is this a 'my favorite cakes' thing or just random blathering? |
| 02:19.03 | ferret_0567 | nsadmin: oh no, this is for an angstrom initrd |
| 02:19.08 | abrotman | asg: random |
| 02:19.16 | asg | joy |
| 02:19.20 | abrotman | see note about msging bots |
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| 02:19.30 | abrotman | ferret_0567: and it still gives the same error ? |
| 02:19.55 | ferret_0567 | abrotman: I used the wrong URL in the debootstrap command, http://ftp.us.debian.org instead of http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian |
| 02:20.07 | abrotman | yes .. |
| 02:20.11 | ferret_0567 | abrotman: now it works |
| 02:20.22 | abrotman | grrr .. you failed to mention the debootstrap part!!!!!!1 |
| 02:20.34 | stew | ep |
| 02:20.39 | abrotman | esp |
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| 02:20.55 | ferret_0567 | next time I'll do that when I have a problem with a command... |
| 02:21.05 | kj4 | hello, can I install lenny with xfce from a net install? |
| 02:21.09 | abrotman | ferret_0567: you could have just told me your sources.list had nothing to do with it ? |
| 02:21.16 | abrotman | kj4: do you think this is funny ? |
| 02:21.20 | kj4 | j/k BYE!! |
| 02:21.27 | abrotman | good! |
| 02:21.28 | abrotman | :) |
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| 02:23.14 | homecable | how do i auto remove all the stuff starting with # out of a file ? |
| 02:23.20 | ferret_0567 | it's lame that Palm OS doesn't turn off the LCD display while using Drive Mode... |
| 02:23.29 | asg | homecable: grep -v ^# |
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| 02:33.56 | jamon | homecable: or awk '/^#/' file, or sed -i 's/^#\(.*\)$//' file |
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| 02:34.55 | homecable | k |
| 02:35.04 | homecable | grep -v ^# worked fine |
| 02:35.13 | jamon | use -e with that sed one to test first |
| 02:35.17 | homecable | i did grep -v ^# file > file |
| 02:35.26 | jamon | that works too :) |
| 02:35.40 | nsadmin | I want to replace my gateway with something that's small, has 2 nics and a wireless and is capable of being an ap in/from debian |
| 02:36.25 | nsadmin | I've been looking into that for some years, the conclusion so far has been, manufacturers cannot be trusted to supply specific chipsets |
| 02:36.35 | abrotman | nsadmin: miniitx |
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| 02:36.54 | nsadmin | can I stick a small hd into such? |
| 02:36.58 | Stanlin | how to disable the camera |
| 02:37.11 | nsadmin | take your own picture |
| 02:38.04 | nsadmin | oh, OUCH! just kidding :) |
| 02:38.04 | abrotman | nsadmin: depending on which case you choose, yes |
| 02:38.04 | abrotman | (probably more of a #debian-offtopic or ##hardware topic though) |
| 02:38.04 | homecable | nsadmin monowall on cfcard |
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| 02:38.30 | nsadmin | I'd like it to be small, low-power and -quiet- |
| 02:38.34 | homecable | http://m0n0.ch/wall/ |
| 02:38.39 | homecable | then look at this then |
| 02:38.43 | abrotman | (probably more of a #debian-offtopic or ##hardware topic though) |
| 02:38.44 | zu22 | i just installed awstats and it gave me a command to run to update my stats each day and it said "add this to cromn" but it doens't tell you how lol. |
| 02:38.48 | zu22 | so how can i tell cron to run this command every day? |
| 02:38.58 | abrotman | zu22: cron |
| 02:39.05 | zu22 | abrotman: yeah cron |
| 02:39.10 | nsadmin | the cf cards don't last as long tho do they? |
| 02:39.11 | abrotman | yeah crontab -e |
| 02:39.14 | zu22 | BTW i can't find Recaptcha packaged for debian |
| 02:39.14 | nsadmin | I got it :P |
| 02:39.18 | abrotman | nsadmin: #debian-offtopic ... |
| 02:39.22 | zu22 | abrotman: cool |
| 02:39.28 | ferret_0567 | zu22: man crontab |
| 02:40.06 | nsadmin | I'll look at it homecable... thanks and sheesh... |
| 02:40.10 | zu22 | i want to install recaptcha for mediawiki |
| 02:40.13 | zu22 | but it isn't package |
| 02:40.19 | zu22 | so should i just install in /usr/local |
| 02:40.31 | abrotman | nsadmin: i'm telling you to go there to discuss further .. |
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| 02:40.32 | karsten | zu22: milk got? |
| 02:40.41 | abrotman | nsadmin: as in .. i'm there also :) |
| 02:40.42 | zu22 | karsten: haha! hallo (: |
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| 02:40.55 | nsadmin | ohok |
| 02:41.00 | zu22 | karsten: what is your current website URL? my disk died again and i lost it lol! |
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| 02:41.08 | karsten | zu22: Either in your user crontab or for system commands: /etc/cron.d/ |
| 02:41.14 | karsten | zu22: ... erm, /etc/cron.daily/ |
| 02:41.18 | zu22 | karsten: cool |
| 02:41.25 | karsten | zu22: http://linuxmafia.com/~karsten |
| 02:41.35 | zu22 | karsten: danke |
| 02:41.40 | nsadmin | karsten: you in SF? |
| 02:41.40 | abrotman | or not ... |
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| 02:42.17 | Stanlin | mafia? |
| 02:42.26 | nsadmin | homecable: thanks and hold off on the msging for awhile :) |
| 02:42.33 | homecable | alright |
| 02:42.34 | homecable | :P |
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| 02:42.40 | hyperbuddha | hi I have a noob question |
| 02:42.43 | karsten | nsadmin: Yeah |
| 02:42.46 | homecable | you useing irssi ? |
| 02:42.53 | hyperbuddha | about debxo for olpc anyone familiar |
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| 02:43.18 | Stanlin | debxo? |
| 02:43.19 | karsten | nsadmin: Why? |
| 02:43.27 | hyperbuddha | whats the differance between desktops |
| 02:43.38 | karsten | zu22: bitte |
| 02:43.41 | karsten | hyperbuddha: 3 |
| 02:43.50 | hyperbuddha | huh |
| 02:44.03 | karsten | hyperbuddha: It's a math thing. |
| 02:44.18 | hyperbuddha | im confusef |
| 02:44.26 | karsten | hyperbuddha: Good. I'm outta here. |
| 02:44.26 | hyperbuddha | :( |
| 02:44.29 | karsten | really aways. |
| 02:44.33 | craigevil | hyperbuddha: lxde would be a better choice over kde/gnome on the Xo, it uses less ram/cpu and still gives you a desktop rather than using sugar |
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| 02:44.50 | hyperbuddha | what about awesome |
| 02:44.57 | craigevil | even lighter |
| 02:45.03 | karsten | hyperbuddha: windowmaker all the way |
| 02:45.10 | karsten | hibernates... |
| 02:45.10 | hyperbuddha | thanks |
| 02:45.21 | Stanlin | im not sure |
| 02:45.50 | hyperbuddha | im using it as a server (I know bad idea can i disable auto sleep) |
| 02:46.05 | Stanlin | where is the autosleep option? |
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| 02:48.08 | hyperbuddha | ok thanks |
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| 03:08.04 | ferret_0567 | I need the initrd for qemu |
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| 03:12.58 | smacnay | for a small bacula setup (a few networked computers), is there a great performance hit if I use the sqlite rather than mysql/pgsql database? |
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| 03:13.57 | iamwoody | hey guys, i have a problem http://sial.org/pbot/34991 |
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| 03:16.58 | SerajewelKS | smacnay: the bacula people might know better, i'm not sure it's used by too many people in here |
| 03:17.02 | sprax | This is quite awesome. I installed whatever the stable branch is called on an old P3 dell laptop, and stuck it in the closet next to my router. |
| 03:17.45 | SerajewelKS | sarge |
| 03:17.56 | sprax | I'm not new to debian, but I always love being able to just apt-get whatever I want |
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| 03:18.11 | sprax | so just wanted to say thanks for maintaining an awesome distro |
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| 03:18.58 | jd__ | abrotman: fwiw, i went to best buy and bought the cheapest sata controller with an esata port |
| 03:19.10 | jd__ | now i get 150MB/sec transfer with not one error in the log |
| 03:19.11 | jd__ | :D |
| 03:19.30 | abrotman | so the other one was broken ? |
| 03:19.31 | jd__ | the one that came with the 4K dell just isnt supported well enough it seems :\ |
| 03:19.40 | jd__ | it works for internal drives well enough |
| 03:19.41 | abrotman | oh .. dell .. sorry |
| 03:19.45 | jd__ | no errors or anything |
| 03:19.46 | jd__ | aye |
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| 03:21.22 | jd__ | runnning a 300gig backup test now |
| 03:21.37 | jd__ | 22gig and not one char in the log \o/ |
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| 03:25.13 | iamwoody | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:25.34 | Firestarter- | what is the best way to remove duplicate lines between two files |
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| 03:26.01 | nsadmin | like which ones? |
| 03:26.12 | xoz_ | Firestarter-: example please |
| 03:26.12 | jamon | iamwoody: well check smartctl one your drives first |
| 03:26.19 | jamon | s/one/on |
| 03:26.45 | iamwoody | jamon:it is not the reason of bios ? |
| 03:27.11 | jamon | iamwoody: could be, but check the integrity of your drives first |
| 03:27.16 | Firestarter- | xoz_: I have two files that may have lines that both files have I would like to remove them from both files |
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| 03:27.40 | iamwoody | jamon:i know freebsd is better at its hard drive name |
| 03:27.46 | nsadmin | ok... so you have files A and B |
| 03:28.18 | nsadmin | and if A has dups in B, you want to remove all copies from A and B? |
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| 03:28.40 | jamon | iamwoody: sorry, i misread, your /proc/mdstat shows a drive dropped out, didn't realize it's because drive names are changing on you |
| 03:29.35 | jamon | iamwoody: you're right to suspect bios, you've turned off all raid options on your sata controllers right? |
| 03:29.58 | xoz_ | iamwoody: possible drive mapping also |
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| 03:30.12 | xoz_ | iamwoody: in the script |
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| 03:31.39 | Firestarter- | xoz_: I see it's easy to remove duplicate lines in one file but I have no idea about doing it with two files |
| 03:32.27 | nsadmin | you mean talently challenged ones? |
| 03:33.22 | Aster0ID | Hi guys, I want to switch to Linux (Debian) from Vista, but there are few things holding me up. Nomber one is Iceweasel, I eman come on. There should be a firefox there. Would I be able to install firefox on my own? I had to upgrade to Lenny just be able to get Iceweasel3 ()firefox3) this is ridiculos. and how about Flash? is it the same? will I be able to get a new version when it comes out? |
| 03:33.27 | nsadmin | I don't think so, a show tune? |
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| 03:33.54 | xoz_ | Firestarter-: you mean in parallel? |
| 03:34.06 | nsadmin | what you do is... |
| 03:34.14 | Firestarter- | xoz_: yes |
| 03:34.25 | abrotman | thinks nsadmin is having a hard time with IRC |
| 03:34.27 | nsadmin | read all lines of one file into a hash |
| 03:34.46 | nsadmin | hard time looking at the prompt... |
| 03:35.13 | iamwoody | the integrety of the hard drives is ok |
| 03:35.17 | xoz_ | Firestarter-: you mean txt1 in file1 and txt1 in file2 are considered duplicates? |
| 03:35.33 | nsadmin | then read the other file, each line will be tested against the hash, and if exists, add it to a separate hash |
| 03:35.35 | nsadmin | then |
| 03:35.42 | nsadmin | for each file, |
| 03:35.43 | iamwoody | the thing is, some times, and i don't understand why, the hard drive name chage from sdb to sdd |
| 03:35.51 | iamwoody | when i reboot its ok |
| 03:35.59 | Firestarter- | xoz_: yes |
| 03:36.10 | nsadmin | read lines into an array if it doesn't exist in the second hash, then write the file backout |
| 03:36.46 | xoz_ | iamwoody: it is a scripting problem in /etc/ i think. |
| 03:36.53 | jd__ | iamwoody: you can use uuid iirc |
| 03:36.54 | xoz_ | iamwoody: related to /dev |
| 03:36.57 | jd__ | i use that to find drives |
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| 03:37.20 | jd__ | makes it much safer when you have a lot of removeable drives |
| 03:37.31 | zu22 | i just installed 'mediawiki' package on debian testing and 'dpkg -L mediawiki' shows 2 files! |
| 03:37.49 | zu22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:37.51 | zu22 | WTF is going on? |
| 03:38.02 | zu22 | is the package broken? i should have a lot more than 2 files in there! |
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| 03:39.38 | Aster0ID | How do I install flash on Lenny? |
| 03:39.40 | Aster0ID | flash 10 |
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| 03:40.35 | iamwoody | "/usr/sbin/ntpdate pool.ntp.org && /sbin/hwclock --directisa --systohc" maybe its this script? |
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| 03:40.51 | iamwoody | i had a look a the crontab but i'm nnot sure its there |
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| 03:41.32 | xoz_ | iamwoody: /etc/udev |
| 03:42.11 | xoz_ | iamwoody: i think /etc/udev/rules.d/ |
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| 03:42.26 | Aster0ID | Do you guys have flash 10 installed? |
| 03:43.15 | xoz_ | Firestarter-: you want files A and B to have new results or only one of them? |
| 03:43.24 | iamwoody | xoz_ i dont know this script, can you give me more information about it? |
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| 03:44.31 | xoz_ | iamwoody: im just suspecting that udev mapping rules can be the source of problem. i cannot zero-in which one. try searching for device mapping package that can force the mapping of drive so that it will not change. |
| 03:44.40 | abrotman | Aster0ID: on what ? |
| 03:44.40 | Firestarter- | xoz_: both files have results. I could copy both files to one put some space between them then use uniq to remove duplicate lines. Would that work? |
| 03:44.47 | b0nn | hi all, I'm trying to install java 6 onto my debian box |
| 03:45.20 | b0nn | I ran the .bin, and copied the resulting directory to /usr/lib/jvm |
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| 03:45.34 | b0nn | but java, and javac are still not on my path |
| 03:45.38 | b0nn | any ideas? |
| 03:45.41 | xoz_ | Firestarter-: you mean copy, merge or put B after A.. like cat B>>A |
| 03:45.49 | abrotman | add /usr/lib/jvm/ to your path ? |
| 03:45.59 | iamwoody | xoz_:thanks it is a good idea ,but what's the name of the software or keyward |
| 03:46.14 | b0nn | abrotman: I figure it's something simple, how do I check if it is on my path or not? |
| 03:46.20 | abrotman | echo $PATH |
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| 03:46.24 | Firestarter- | xoz_: just copy and past both files into one then use uniq to scan the one file for duplicates |
| 03:46.33 | b0nn | ok |
| 03:46.40 | b0nn | thanks, it's not on the path |
| 03:46.50 | xoz_ | iamwoody: try dmsetup... or apt-cache search device mapping |
| 03:47.30 | iamwoody | xoz_:thanks , i will have a try |
| 03:47.56 | abrotman | Aster0ID: on what ? |
| 03:48.16 | Aster0ID | abrotman, have flash 10 installed on Debian? |
| 03:48.21 | xoz_ | Firestarter-: uniq expects the files to be sorted. otherwise, duplicates in different parts will not be seen. |
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| 03:48.23 | abrotman | which veresion of debian ? |
| 03:48.24 | PiousMinion | How do I tell apt-get/aptitude to ignore "recommends" and only install what is actually required? |
| 03:48.32 | Aster0ID | Etch |
| 03:48.36 | abrotman | won't work |
| 03:48.37 | Aster0ID | or Lenny |
| 03:48.41 | abrotman | will work |
| 03:48.55 | Firestarter- | xoz_: oh I have to keep it in the order it is now |
| 03:49.04 | Aster0ID | abrotman, firefox 3 on lenny? |
| 03:49.08 | xoz_ | Firestarter-: it is like cat B >> A | sort | uniw |
| 03:49.10 | xoz_ | Firestarter-: it is like cat B >> A | sort | uniq |
| 03:49.12 | abrotman | aptitude install iceweasel |
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| 03:49.45 | abrotman | PiousMinion: man aptitude |
| 03:49.57 | abrotman | Aster0ID: yes .. flash10 on IW3 on i386 lenny |
| 03:50.16 | Aster0ID | what's IW3? |
| 03:50.49 | abrotman | Iceweasel3 |
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| 03:51.27 | Aster0ID | abrotman, Does new IW3 come out as soon as new version of firefox is released? How long do I have to wait? |
| 03:51.44 | xoz_ | Firestarter-: i think you can use diff |
| 03:51.44 | abrotman | i have no idea |
| 03:51.48 | abrotman | i don't use FF3 |
| 03:51.56 | Firestarter- | xoz_: ok |
| 03:52.19 | xoz_ | Firestarter-: diff can output uniq elements in A and B and their common elements. you just have to parse it. |
| 03:52.36 | abrotman | comm |
| 03:52.37 | Firestarter- | xoz_: ok |
| 03:52.40 | superme1 | firefox and IW3 suppose to be the same,just the name change to be compatible with the debian policy |
| 03:52.44 | superme1 | hi folk |
| 03:53.04 | abrotman | xoz_: comm -13 <(sort foo) <(sort foo2) .. etc |
| 03:53.14 | abrotman | thinks -13 is the difference ... |
| 03:53.25 | abrotman | whoops .. nope |
| 03:53.31 | xoz_ | abrotman: cannot use sort... order is important |
| 03:53.38 | abrotman | xoz_: i just did |
| 03:53.50 | abrotman | oh .. you don't want to sort them ? |
| 03:53.58 | masonf | Hey everyone I am quite a beginner with debian. I am looking to install lua-gtk but sudo apt-get install lua-gtk says it can't find the package |
| 03:54.21 | xoz_ | abrotman: yep. he wants to preserve order... but yeah, maybe it can be used just to get the duplicates or uniq elements. |
| 03:54.24 | superme1 | masonf: aptitude ? |
| 03:54.34 | theholyduck | superme1, well you dont ALWAYS wanna use aptitude |
| 03:54.42 | abrotman | xoz_: back to sleep for me :) |
| 03:54.43 | theholyduck | xoz_, try apt-cache search lua gtk |
| 03:54.46 | theholyduck | ? |
| 03:54.53 | theholyduck | see if you get any relevant hits? |
| 03:54.57 | xoz_ | abrotman: gd night |
| 03:55.02 | theholyduck | err |
| 03:55.03 | theholyduck | i mean |
| 03:55.05 | theholyduck | masonf, |
| 03:55.07 | superme1 | i use aptitude. why not ? |
| 03:55.07 | abrotman | theholyduck: did you answer any of the right people ? |
| 03:55.09 | abrotman | xoz_: i was kidding |
| 03:55.15 | Firestarter- | xoz_: thanks |
| 03:55.41 | xoz_ | abrotman: heh |
| 03:55.48 | theholyduck | abrotman, <dpkg> Aptitude has many bugs, such as #299009, which other APT frontends do not have. Also, aptitude currently does not have equivalents for "apt-get source" and "apt-get build-dep". |
| 03:56.03 | abrotman | theholyduck: and what ? he's installing .. |
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| 03:56.17 | theholyduck | abrotman, well you should stay consistent :P |
| 03:56.26 | theholyduck | thus i always use apt-get |
| 03:56.37 | masonf | http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/l/lua-gtk/lua-gtk_0.8+20080510+dash-1/changelog |
| 03:56.39 | xoz_ | Firestarter-: yeah, you can use abrotman's suggestion to get the uniq elements... but it will not tell you which file it belongs. with diff, you can parse > and < to know where it belongs. |
| 03:56.40 | abrotman | theholyduck: uhm .. he was .. |
| 03:56.56 | theholyduck | abrotman, hmm |
| 03:57.01 | abrotman | there are different parts of comm .. he might be able to |
| 03:57.02 | masonf | apt-cache search lua gtk does not show that package |
| 03:57.02 | theholyduck | why am i always highlighting you? |
| 03:57.04 | Firestarter- | xoz_: ok thanks |
| 03:57.11 | theholyduck | masonf, are you running etch? |
| 03:57.13 | xoz_ | abrotman: yeah |
| 03:57.23 | xoz_ | Firestarter-: man comm. seems to be the answer to your problem. |
| 03:57.35 | theholyduck | aboi was TRYING to highlight superme1 with the aptitude stuff |
| 03:57.44 | abrotman | failure |
| 03:57.45 | theholyduck | argh |
| 03:57.46 | theholyduck | THE WORLD HATES ME |
| 03:57.51 | theholyduck | goes to kill himself |
| 03:57.54 | abrotman | wants you off IRC at least :) |
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| 03:58.02 | theholyduck | well it IS 0457 |
| 03:58.06 | theholyduck | i guess thats part of the problem |
| 03:58.06 | superme1 | nooo, with love you ^^ |
| 03:58.14 | masonf | I just got the logon to this box how can I find out? Its a lab machine. |
| 03:58.23 | xoz_ | Firestarter-: you can just try comm A B |
| 03:58.33 | theholyduck | masonf, look at /etc/apt/sources.list ? |
| 03:58.34 | abrotman | masonf: apt-cache search lua .. see it ? |
| 03:58.40 | xoz_ | Firestarter-: and parse the output to what you want |
| 03:58.44 | abrotman | judd: versions lua-gtk |
| 03:58.44 | judd | abrotman: lua-gtk -- |
| 03:58.44 | theholyduck | abrotman, well if apt-cache search lua gtk doesnt find it? |
| 03:58.49 | Firestarter- | xoz_: going to try it now |
| 03:58.51 | abrotman | oh .. lua gtk isn't in debian at all |
| 03:58.58 | superme1 | any help about a bug between vlc and mplayer on a lenny/sid 2.6.26 ? |
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| 03:59.08 | abrotman | theholyduck: so by your logic .. he should use aptitude search lua gtk :) |
| 03:59.10 | superme1 | By command line, mplayer ~/movie.avi & give me a error, and vlc don't read video tracks anymore. It did happen since i installed mplayer. Uninstall mplayer or both and reinstall by any combinasion do nothing... |
| 03:59.11 | theholyduck | superme1, why would they be in both? |
| 03:59.12 | masonf | did you see my link? |
| 03:59.14 | theholyduck | abrotman, no :P |
| 03:59.37 | theholyduck | superme1, well mplayer doesnt in any way interfere with vlc |
| 03:59.39 | theholyduck | and the other way around |
| 03:59.43 | masonf | http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/l/lua-gtk/lua-gtk_0.8+20080510+dash-1/changelog this is not a debian package? |
| 03:59.45 | theholyduck | soo you dont exactly make any sense :P |
| 04:00.04 | theholyduck | superme1, though what MIGHT have happend. |
| 04:00.12 | abrotman | masonf: ah .. which version of debian ? |
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| 04:00.16 | superme1 | theholyduck: and before that i already had no problem with both nstalled togather |
| 04:00.22 | theholyduck | is that a) |
| 04:00.28 | theholyduck | you're trying to play a broken video file |
| 04:00.41 | theholyduck | b) you managed to cock up your xorg somehow thus ruining your -vo |
| 04:00.44 | abrotman | masonf: look in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 04:01.04 | theholyduck | or c) some other unrelated issue but i dont believe in |
| 04:01.10 | theholyduck | superme1, run mplayer and give me the error it outputs |
| 04:01.18 | theholyduck | when playing the video |
| 04:01.32 | xoz_ | superme1: try aptitude remove --purge vlc mplayer... and reinstall |
| 04:01.33 | masonf | feisty |
| 04:01.38 | abrotman | masonf: ask #ubuntu please |
| 04:01.48 | superme1 | theholyduck: Can't open joystick device /dev/input/js0: No such file or directory |
| 04:01.48 | superme1 | Can't init input joystick |
| 04:01.48 | superme1 | mplayer: could not connect to socket |
| 04:01.48 | superme1 | mplayer: No such file or directory |
| 04:01.49 | superme1 | Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote control. |
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| 04:02.01 | theholyduck | Supaplex, non related errors |
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| 04:02.11 | theholyduck | argh |
| 04:02.40 | masonf | thanks for the help! sorry about that |
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| 04:03.57 | theholyduck | superme1, are there any errors related to VO ? |
| 04:04.09 | theholyduck | because all the stuff you posted arent ACTUAL errors |
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| 04:06.10 | superme1 | theholyduck: http://pastebin.ca/1333562 |
| 04:06.32 | theholyduck | superme1, it should display MORE than that |
| 04:06.48 | theholyduck | even if the video you wr |
| 04:06.55 | theholyduck | *were trying to play was SEVEARLY broken |
| 04:07.18 | theholyduck | cause none of those errors are actual errors |
| 04:07.25 | superme1 | i have the same problem to open *any* video |
| 04:07.33 | theholyduck | post ALL the output of mplayer? |
| 04:07.51 | superme1 | i did |
| 04:07.59 | theholyduck | that makes.. NO sense :P |
| 04:08.05 | superme1 | it locks right there |
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| 04:08.31 | theholyduck | superme1: try aptitude remove --purge vlc mplayer... and reinstall |
| 04:08.33 | superme1 | after enter it come back to the prompt (yes : it makes no sense ^^) |
| 04:08.40 | theholyduck | as xoz_ suggesting :P |
| 04:08.43 | superme1 | here we go |
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| 04:11.17 | superme1 | theholyduck: 3hours to reinstall ... i come back tomorrow ^^ (i use a very busy and hasardous connexion) |
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| 04:11.43 | superjoe30 | should I go nvidia or ati getting a new graphics card? |
| 04:12.02 | abrotman | ask ##hardware ? |
| 04:12.03 | theholyduck | superme1, 3 hours??? |
| 04:12.07 | theholyduck | for a couple of thiny packages? |
| 04:12.44 | superme1 | theholyduck: unfortunally ... 5792B/s ! ^^ |
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| 04:15.55 | superme1 | 6 minutes |
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| 04:25.27 | superme1 | itheholyduck: it finds me a mplayer-nogui package installed, they seem don't like it a lot |
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| 04:28.56 | superme1 | theholyduck: purged and reinstalled, still the same problem ... |
| 04:29.05 | theholyduck | no idea then :P |
| 04:29.10 | theholyduck | sounds like your pc is being screwy |
| 04:29.30 | superme1 | sankyou sankyou ^^ |
| 04:29.46 | superme1 | so i have to unscrewy it ! |
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| 04:31.19 | themiddleman | <Azalyn> SanityInFlux: eh? weird. |
| 04:31.19 | themiddleman | <CIDR> SanityInFlux: any reason for that? |
| 04:31.19 | themiddleman | <Guest29924> hey guys i have a really old laptop, and the kernel wont boot, is there a debug flag i can add in the grub line to see whats going on |
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| 04:36.01 | superme1 | theholyduck: vlc still doesn't display any video tracks, and mplayer still out the same "message" about joystick and socket |
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| 04:36.26 | theholyduck | superme1, seems like they have trouble loading the file from the drive |
| 04:36.28 | theholyduck | or whatever |
| 04:36.41 | theholyduck | is your system being very slow? |
| 04:36.43 | theholyduck | currently? |
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| 04:38.12 | superme1 | theholyduck: nop, the system runs quiet well |
| 04:39.03 | superme1 | there's is a package of something installed makes the bug because it was ok before |
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| 05:35.17 | SerajewelKS | is there a way to force a zip drive to sleep? |
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| 06:24.45 | neoice | I've always wondered... when the kenrel updates, is there a way to finish the process without rebooting? it always says I need to reboot to regenerate the modules (I believe thats the message) |
| 06:27.18 | nsadmin | neoice: it's more convenient to do that kind of stuff on the kernel that's running |
| 06:28.04 | nsadmin | you won't be in the running kernel until you reboot |
| 06:29.11 | nsadmin | err that last doesn't make sense |
| 06:29.59 | nsadmin | you won't be in the kernel you have updated to (which just installs it) until (1) you reboot and (2) you pick that kernel from the boot menu |
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| 06:45.39 | karsten | wakes... |
| 06:45.51 | GhostlyDeath | How can I make Debian only use the first core on my multi-core system (as if the second core didn't even exist)? |
| 06:46.20 | karsten | GhostlyDeath: check your kernel options. 'nosmp' I think. |
| 06:46.36 | GhostlyDeath | I'll try it out thanks |
| 06:46.57 | karsten | GhostlyDeath: man bootparam may give you that, checking. |
| 06:47.14 | karsten | GhostlyDeath: Yeah: 'nosmp' or 'maxcpus=N' |
| 06:48.09 | nsadmin | GhostlyDeath: what are you trying to accomplish? |
| 06:48.20 | karsten | nsadmin: World domination, clearly. |
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| 06:49.31 | nsadmin | I mean, are you trying to use the other core for something else? |
| 06:50.19 | nsadmin | and if that's the case... is it possible to say "linux, use the second core" |
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| 06:51.54 | C4colo | anyone have a good guide to building debs? |
| 06:52.32 | GhostlyDeath | well, really there is only a single core |
| 06:52.55 | GhostlyDeath | hyperthreaded stuff |
| 06:52.58 | C4colo | I need to cross-compile something from source for i386 and x86_64 so I can move it to multiple machines |
| 06:53.21 | GhostlyDeath | Sometimes it goes really slow |
| 06:53.25 | C4colo | but I have never made a .deb |
| 06:54.27 | C4colo | anyone have a walkthrough or guide they would recommend? |
| 06:55.58 | craigevil | !nm |
| 06:55.58 | dpkg | [nm] New Maintainer, the process through which new Debian developers happen; see http://nm.debian.org/ . A program to list symbols from object files and libs. Never\No Mind. New Mexico No Molestes (do not disturb) in spanish. See also <maint-guide>. |
| 06:57.06 | C4colo | !maint-guide |
| 06:57.07 | dpkg | A simple packaging walkthrough can be found by (as root) "apt-get install maint-guide" and then (as user) www-browser /usr/share/doc/maint-guide/maint-guide.en.html/index.html" (or http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ online). Also ask me about <nmg>. 'Mg' is also the chemical symbol for magnesium, or may mean Madagascar. |
| 06:57.20 | C4colo | cool thanks |
| 06:57.39 | karsten | GhostlyDeath: So you're trying to disable hyperthreading? |
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| 07:11.24 | Ip_Man | can someone give me a hint, would it be good to add |
| 07:11.24 | Ip_Man | deb http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org/debian lenny main contrib non-free restricted |
| 07:11.24 | Ip_Man | in my sources.list? |
| 07:11.24 | Ip_Man | (running debian lenny testing) |
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| 07:18.10 | d-b | hi there can any one recommend a good way to test if this hard disk of mine is going to fail it sounds rather bad... |
| 07:18.31 | d-b | i can't do *anything* when i for example rsync some files as a test |
| 07:18.35 | d-b | DSK | sda | busy 97% | read 427 | write 1685 | avio 4 ms | |
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| 07:19.22 | C4colo | is SMART enabled in the BIOS/ |
| 07:20.17 | liable | d-b: if it sounds bad, then you should probably copy the data on it over to another disk as quick as possible |
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| 07:20.34 | d-b | liable: yep done that ^^ -> i always have backups |
| 07:20.43 | fisxoj | if I want a simple GUI to back up my /home, what would people recommend? |
| 07:20.50 | d-b | grsync |
| 07:20.55 | liable | d-b: then you can happily just wait for it to fail :) |
| 07:21.06 | d-b | liable: well it sounds bad... |
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| 07:21.56 | d-b | liable: any good hard disk thrashing methods is should try in the mean time ? |
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| 07:24.16 | karsten | Ip_Man: No idea WRT your question. What's in that repo? |
| 07:24.29 | karsten | d-b: SMART. |
| 07:24.35 | liable | d-b: there is one, but i cant think of the name. smartmon-tools has a few test utils i think |
| 07:24.42 | d-b | karsten: used it |
| 07:24.50 | d-b | i will do a long test now |
| 07:24.52 | karsten | d-b: short test or long? |
| 07:24.57 | d-b | did 2 shorts before |
| 07:25.12 | karsten | d-b: Short understates problems. Long may fail to complete on a badly misbehaving drive. |
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| 07:25.21 | karsten | d-b: Any errors in /var/log/messages? |
| 07:25.40 | d-b | doesn't look like it |
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| 07:25.59 | Ip_Man | karsten, Debian Unofficial is a repository for packages not available within the official Debian repository. It contains packages which are not distributable within Debian due to special license terms as well as packages which are not included in Debian due to political reasons (e.g. alleged possible patent infrigement, binary-only/no sources, or special too restrictive licenses). |
| 07:26.02 | karsten | d-b: drive read seek complete errors or CRC errors are usually really bad news. |
| 07:26.05 | liable | if it sounds bad, its likely a bearing or something |
| 07:26.18 | karsten | d-b: I'd take the audio signal as a bad sign, back off my data, and RMA the drive. |
| 07:26.21 | liable | tools wouldnt really detect that |
| 07:26.27 | karsten | d-b: Spinning shit doesn't get quieter or better with time. |
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| 07:26.42 | Thasp | everytime i run apt-get to install something it tries to restart lighttpd |
| 07:26.45 | karsten | liable: Eventually it will effect timing and such out of bounds. |
| 07:26.50 | d-b | karsten: yeah but i'm going to check it is still in properly / cables |
| 07:27.00 | karsten | Ip_Man: Your call then, dude. |
| 07:27.05 | liable | karsten: eventually, sure |
| 07:27.29 | karsten | liable: I'd cut the wait and bin it now. RMA. Same thing. |
| 07:27.35 | liable | aye |
| 07:27.46 | karsten | d-b: Check that the drive is securely mounted as well. Bad/missing screws, etc. |
| 07:28.59 | d-b | yeah. i have 0 udma crc errors tho ... but 49 uncorrectable and a raw read error rate of 9105855 are these normal ? |
| 07:29.00 | liable | and the hampster is still in the cage |
| 07:29.20 | karsten | liable: *damn* it. I forgot to feed the hamsters tonight. |
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| 07:44.40 | liable | !qotd0 |
| 07:44.40 | dpkg | my sanity check is a race condition. - Jim Dennis |
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| 08:07.46 | amikrop | Hello. In OpenOffice Presentation I removed the "Slide Pane" by mistake and made it a window of its own. How do I put it back? |
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| 08:16.22 | Thasp | ~$ screen |
| 08:16.23 | Thasp | Cannot make directory '/var/run/screen': Permission denied |
| 08:16.25 | Thasp | ? :( |
| 08:18.59 | dondelelcaro | Thasp: it should already exist |
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| 08:19.24 | Thasp | dondelelcaro, it does. i tried giving it 777 permissions for kicks an i still can't make a screen as anyone but root :( |
| 08:19.25 | dondelelcaro | Thasp: you are running Debian and do have /etc/init.d/screen-cleanup present, right? |
| 08:20.15 | Thasp | dondelelcaro, lenny. yes, I have screen-cleanup. |
| 08:20.32 | dondelelcaro | Thasp: then run /etc/init.d/screen-cleanup start; |
| 08:20.32 | Thasp | running it doesn't seem to do anything though. |
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| 08:20.54 | dondelelcaro | Thasp: it doesn't output anything; it should create /var/run/screen with the proper permissions |
| 08:21.36 | dondelelcaro | (namely root:utmp 0775) |
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| 08:22.03 | Thasp | dondelelcaro, I tried removing /var/run/screen then running screen-cleanup. it didn't create a directory, or show anything |
| 08:22.27 | dondelelcaro | Thasp: uh... what's the contents of /etc/init.d/screen-cleanup? |
| 08:22.57 | dondelelcaro | Thasp: because that's certainly what it does here. |
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| 08:24.03 | Thasp | dondelelcaro, my mistake, i was running it wrong. it does create the directory but regular users still can't run screen |
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| 08:25.00 | dondelelcaro | Thasp: now, what does stat -c '%G %A' /usr/bin/screen; say? |
| 08:25.14 | Thasp | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:25.19 | Thasp | err |
| 08:25.23 | Thasp | utmp -rwxr-sr-x |
| 08:26.00 | dondelelcaro | Thasp: and what is the /proc/mounts line for the filesystem that has /usr/bin? |
| 08:26.23 | Thasp | /dev/hdc1 / ext3 rw,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered 0 0 |
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| 08:26.53 | dondelelcaro | Thasp: / has /usr too, right? |
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| 08:26.57 | Thasp | yes |
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| 08:27.42 | dondelelcaro | Thasp: cool; then the next step is to see the full output from which screen; and strace -ff -o screen.strace screen; |
| 08:28.31 | Thasp | apt gets strace |
| 08:28.36 | Thasp | will be a second, this is a pentium 166 |
| 08:28.56 | Thasp | /var/run/screen/S-root/7976.pts-0.bauer: No such file or directory |
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| 09:16.42 | kamathln | hi .. my wifi managing icon suddenly vanished .. does anybody know how to bring it back ? |
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| 09:17.36 | nibbler_ | kamathln: its most likely "networkmanager" or "nm". and no, no idea how to bring it back |
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| 09:18.02 | kamathln | nibbler_: checking |
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| 09:19.37 | kamathln | nm-applet seems to be running .. but no icon |
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| 09:22.03 | kamathln | nibbler_: tried running nm-tool .. got this :: get_nm_state(): didn't get a reply from NetworkManager |
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| 09:22.39 | nibbler_ | kamathln: too bad. and too bad i have no idea on how to help you besides giving you the name of the tool. sorry |
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| 09:24.20 | kamathln | nibbler_: thx anywyas .. |
| 09:24.29 | kamathln | nibbler_: no problem aat all |
| 09:24.33 | Blackshark | can someone tell me what it means when i get a "recompile with -fPIC" while using "make" on a php source in combination with --with-mysql? |
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| 09:27.35 | Skaag_ | I have a machine crashing spontaneously, it is remote... I installed atop with a 1 minute sampling resolution |
| 09:27.55 | Skaag_ | and looking into atop's history, the only anomalous line I can see added into the statistics is this: PAG | scan 1024 | stall 0 | | swin 0 | swout 0 | |
| 09:28.37 | Skaag | question is, what doe PAG scan mean, and those other values |
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| 09:35.29 | rvsjoen | bah, another glorious day fighting the problems of the world... or not |
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| 09:38.18 | rvsjoen | Blackshark : that you need to compile with -fPIC ? |
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| 09:39.08 | Blackshark | i tryed but php tells me there i no such option however php has --with-pic which i have treyed with the same result |
| 09:39.20 | rvsjoen | Skaag : PAG is some counters related to paging |
| 09:39.43 | Skaag | that line only appears in the minute the machine becomes unavailable |
| 09:39.53 | Skaag | in all of atop's history it is absent |
| 09:40.06 | Skaag | I'm trying to figure out what makes the box crash with this info |
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| 09:41.53 | TwistOfFate | 4.0r7? |
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| 09:41.55 | TwistOfFate | where's 5.0? |
| 09:42.10 | themill | !topicsmite TwistOfFate |
| 09:42.10 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon TwistOfFate. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 09:42.15 | rvsjoen | Blackshark : when do you get this ? |
| 09:43.02 | rvsjoen | did you do it while using make like it says, or did you do it while running configure ? |
| 09:43.32 | Blackshark | rvsjoen: only when i configure php with the option "--with-mysql" the confuguration works fine but make gives me the error |
| 09:44.20 | rvsjoen | you get the error while running ./configure or afterwards when running make ? |
| 09:44.33 | Blackshark | when running make |
| 09:44.45 | rvsjoen | and did you try 'make -fPIC' ? |
| 09:45.18 | Blackshark | rvsjoen: yes make gibes me "make: *** No rule to make target `PIC'. Stop." |
| 09:45.26 | rvsjoen | ok |
| 09:45.45 | rvsjoen | this is the latest php source ? |
| 09:45.56 | Blackshark | yes the beta |
| 09:46.41 | rvsjoen | which version |
| 09:46.48 | Supaplex | well.. this was a fun adventure. apt-zip has some pretty hairy bugs, but my shell scripting foo and a few one liners overcame those defects. Now I have the madwifi driver install, my wireless is working MUCH better than the ath5k drivers. :) |
| 09:47.15 | Blackshark | rvsjoen: PHP 5.3.0beta2-dev |
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| 09:47.28 | Supaplex | dpkg: ath5k-- |
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| 09:51.31 | rvsjoen | ok -fPIC seems to be a gcc flag |
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| 09:55.10 | rvsjoen | ok, im not sure how to change the CFLAGS on the fly while running make, but you can try to add -fPIC to the CFLAGS or CFLAGS_CLEAN variable in the Makefile |
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| 10:04.59 | kamathln | nibbler_: connected over wifi :-) |
| 10:05.13 | nibbler_ | good :) |
| 10:05.32 | kamathln | i was barking at the wrong tree |
| 10:05.41 | kamathln | the nm was good . |
| 10:05.52 | kamathln | the problem was i had suspended the machine earlier |
| 10:06.17 | kamathln | and the madwifi module i am using is allergic to the suspend command |
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| 10:08.05 | rs | i have a doubt plz help | when i rsync i see something like (xfer#1, to-check=1018/1025) |
| 10:08.10 | rs | and its progressing |
| 10:08.26 | rs | the xref#____ this number gets progressed |
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| 10:08.30 | rs | and so do to-check |
| 10:08.36 | rs | what do they indicate |
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| 10:08.59 | rs | what does taht xref specify an what does to-check specify |
| 10:09.00 | rs | ? |
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| 10:10.55 | Blackshark | rvsjoen: any ideas? |
| 10:11.47 | rvsjoen | did you try changing CFLAGS ? |
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| 10:18.17 | Scurz | hello |
| 10:19.03 | Scurz | How could I solve the problem of dependencies http://pastebin.com/m396284f0 ? |
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| 10:19.47 | ko1 | I seem to have trashed a raid one (two 18g scsi ) array is there any way to mount and fsck the individual pieces of the array ie sda , sdb etc ? |
| 10:20.07 | Scurz | because the package module-init-tools causes problems... |
| 10:20.07 | mxmx | what would be some reasons why httpd wound go down |
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| 10:22.38 | Skaag | mxmx: need to check /var/log/apache2/error.log... |
| 10:22.57 | Skaag | mxmx: your statement in general is quite vague and does not really help understand the problem |
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| 10:25.28 | mxmx | ok i will cehck teh error log |
| 10:25.48 | Skaag | and I will go check the pasta in the restaurant downstairs :-) |
| 10:25.50 | Skaag | goes for lunch |
| 10:26.49 | mxmx | h, I dont have /apache/ in /log/ |
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| 10:27.19 | mxmx | i have /httpd/error.log |
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| 10:28.39 | mxmx | i found this |
| 10:28.41 | mxmx | [Wed Feb 11 01:52:02 2009] [notice] caught SIGTERM, shutting down |
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| 10:30.54 | Skaag | so it was manually terminated |
| 10:30.59 | Skaag | it did not crash |
| 10:31.12 | Skaag | be back later |
| 10:32.34 | mxmx | WHAT? |
| 10:36.28 | mxmx | ? |
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| 10:40.18 | rs | anybody have any idea what does these mean which i get when i use rsync (xfer#154, to-check=1018/1265) |
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| 10:41.35 | gypsymauro | hi |
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| 10:42.13 | gypsymauro | i've installed lenny but after some days of use I c the swap usage growing either if the memory usage is at 50 %, it's normal? |
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| 10:43.13 | achilles | hello, my linux box has two interfaces, one 192... and the another 172... how can I enable routing between them ? |
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| 10:44.52 | nano- | Is there any debhelper command for showing the name of a source package, similar to dh_listpackages |
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| 10:46.50 | fleger | achilles: echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/forward (ou qqchose comme ca) |
| 10:47.06 | fleger | achilles: après faut regarder les regles iptables |
| 10:47.21 | achilles | fleger, yes this is to enable ip forwarding .. I enabled it but not working |
| 10:48.11 | achilles | fleger, here is my routing table http://rafb.net/p/JBKZzF53.html |
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| 10:49.04 | mxmx | does anyone know waht this means? |
| 10:49.07 | mxmx | [Wed Feb 11 01:52:02 2009] [notice] caught SIGTERM, shutting down |
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| 10:52.42 | fleger | achilles: ca à l'air ok |
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| 10:55.06 | mastro | I need to use apt-get from terminal throw a proxy. The problem is my proxy password: it has an ampersand in it. Say the password is 'myp@ssword' and the proxy is theproxy.org: when i do apt-get update i get »»»» W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/Release.gpg Could not resolve 'ssword@theproxy.org' |
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| 10:56.04 | JohnFlux | I'm trying to do: dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -b for a package |
| 10:56.07 | mastro | do someone of you know i can workaround it without changing the password? |
| 10:56.10 | JohnFlux | but it complains I'm missing dependencies |
| 10:56.16 | JohnFlux | how do I install the dependencies? |
| 10:56.57 | JohnFlux | It seems I can't use apt-get build-deps since I haven't build the package yet. And I can't build the package without the dependencies... |
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| 10:57.12 | rvsjoen | mastro : try escaping it with \ |
| 10:57.31 | sevele | 大家好 |
| 10:57.52 | icebrain | JohnFlux: you should be able to install the deps regardless of the state of the package |
| 10:58.08 | JohnFlux | icebrain: I downloaded the source directly |
| 10:58.16 | JohnFlux | icebrain: so I have a debian/rules directory, but nothing more |
| 10:58.22 | icebrain | JohnFlux: that doesnt matter |
| 10:58.31 | JohnFlux | icebrain: so, how do I install the deps? |
| 10:58.33 | mastro | well.. i have the same problem from synaptic |
| 10:58.41 | icebrain | JohnFlux: maybe you're having some kind of broken deps |
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| 10:59.01 | icebrain | JohnFlux: when I tried to build-deps for wine I had broken deps and it didn't show me |
| 10:59.12 | icebrain | JohnFlux: there's a bug filled on lauchpad |
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| 10:59.33 | JohnFlux | icebrain: should dpkg-buildpackage download the dependencies for me? |
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| 10:59.58 | icebrain | JohnFlux: hmm, I don't about that... |
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| 11:00.13 | icebrain | JohnFlux: but I doubt it, dpkg doesn't download, afaik |
| 11:00.16 | JohnFlux | icebrain: it doesn't seem to.. so how do I install the dependencies? :-) |
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| 11:00.35 | icebrain | JohnFlux: try apt-cache showsrc on the package name to view the deps |
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| 11:01.08 | JohnFlux | icebrain: I don't have a package at all yet though |
| 11:01.19 | JohnFlux | icebrain: it's not a package in the debian repositories |
| 11:01.27 | mastro | do someone know where i can find an apt-get developer? |
| 11:01.43 | icebrain | JohnFlux: Oh! in that case I don't think apt can build-deps... |
| 11:01.54 | JohnFlux | mastro: presumably google will tell you a mailing list address |
| 11:02.06 | JohnFlux | icebrain: :-/ |
| 11:02.12 | icebrain | JohnFlux: I would suppose you have to install the deps yourself... |
| 11:02.21 | mastro | JohnFlux: yes but i would prefer to talk to him directly |
| 11:02.38 | JohnFlux | masto: he probably doesn't want to talk directly you :-) |
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| 11:02.54 | JohnFlux | masto: no offence meant, but do you have any idea how many apt-get users there are? |
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| 11:04.24 | mastro | JohnFlux: probably :) but i would like to try anyway... :) i think this could be a bug anyway |
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| 11:05.09 | Maior | "fafb"? |
| 11:05.30 | kj4 | hello debianers |
| 11:05.43 | mastro | JohnFlux: eheh, you don't need to tell me I'm asking too much :) I know... |
| 11:06.10 | mastro | JohnFlux: are you a debian developer? :P |
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| 11:06.51 | bse | word :) |
| 11:07.16 | jelly | JohnFlux: "apt-get build-dep foo" installs the build dependencies if the package is in a deb-src repo (can be a local one) |
| 11:08.46 | JohnFlux | jelly: right, but it's not in the main repo. And since I haven't built the package yet, it's not install locally either :) |
| 11:09.15 | jelly | JohnFlux: I'd put the tarball, diff and dsc in a local deb-src repo |
| 11:10.02 | JohnFlux | jelly: ah I see what you mean. make a debian source package |
| 11:10.11 | JohnFlux | jelly: is there a command to do that for me? |
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| 11:17.45 | kj4 | what is the absolutely most painful linux to use and install, that's what I need |
| 11:18.07 | jelly | kj4: all are painful. Use any linux. |
| 11:18.22 | kj4 | yes, but surely one is most painful of all |
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| 11:19.01 | jelly | kj4: try ##linux, we discuss the pain bringing capabilities of one distro only in here. |
| 11:19.17 | kj4 | thanks |
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| 11:20.17 | jelly | JohnFlux: not sure, I've only dealt with sources that already were in the appropriate format |
| 11:20.21 | jelly | !mentors |
| 11:20.21 | dpkg | [mentors] the system that the Debian project uses to train new people to become Debian Developers or Debian Maintainers and get their packages into the Debian archive. Ask me about <nmg> or <mg>. Also see http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/ #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org, and http://mentors.debian.net/ |
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| 11:20.37 | jelly | JohnFlux: try there |
| 11:20.55 | jelly | JohnFlux: or just read debian/control and install the Build-Depends manually |
| 11:21.46 | jelly | JohnFlux: dpkg-checkbuilddeps should be able to tell you which ones are missing, I think |
| 11:22.21 | kj4 | jelly. i have found the answer, thank you: <Daemonic> kj4: cut your left hand off and then try lfs |
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| 11:23.12 | JohnFlux | jelly: thanks for the help |
| 11:23.50 | jelly | !customer |
| 11:23.51 | dpkg | A satisfied customer? We should have him stuffed! |
| 11:24.07 | jelly | dpkg: hey, who changed the factoid! |
| 11:24.08 | dpkg | bugger all, i dunno, jelly |
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| 11:29.07 | bazyl | hi everybody ;) |
| 11:29.26 | aprendiz001 | hi all |
| 11:29.34 | bazyl | hello ;) |
| 11:29.36 | aprendiz001 | I have one problem developing a scrip for nagios |
| 11:29.40 | aprendiz001 | it is in bash |
| 11:30.00 | aprendiz001 | I want to put a limit of size of a path |
| 11:30.09 | aprendiz001 | and advice warning and critical |
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| 11:30.38 | aprendiz001 | I used du por convert in bytes and a convert in bytes the parameter too, for comparing |
| 11:30.49 | aprendiz001 | but the result is "strange" |
| 11:31.27 | aprendiz001 | because I have the free space in bytes and I convert into mb /1024/1024 |
| 11:31.34 | aprendiz001 | and the result is false |
| 11:31.52 | aprendiz001 | so I checked only de command du |
| 11:32.02 | aprendiz001 | and it is wrong the result too |
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| 11:32.51 | aprendiz001 | example: du -sh folder = 60MB |
| 11:33.10 | jelly | aprendiz001: why do you think the du output is wrong? |
| 11:33.59 | aprendiz001 | du -sb folder =61509602 bytes and /1024/1024 give me the result of 58,66012764 MB |
| 11:34.05 | aprendiz001 | almost 1,4MB wrong |
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| 11:34.28 | aprendiz001 | jelly, because of the last example I have written |
| 11:34.34 | kj4 | aprendiz001, that is because of taxes |
| 11:35.21 | aprendiz001 | kj4, what that means? |
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| 11:35.47 | jelly | aprendiz001: du shows disk usage. A file with length of 4 bytes on a typical ext3fs will always take 4KB disk space |
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| 11:36.41 | aprendiz001 | ahh yes, I understand |
| 11:36.44 | jelly | aprendiz001: if you want the sum of byte lengths, use --apparent-size |
| 11:36.54 | jelly | (man du) |
| 11:37.26 | jelly | and if you need the output in MiB, make du display those from the start |
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| 11:39.36 | aprendiz001 | jelly, my script receive a warning percentage, a critical one, the path and the limit as 1G or 1M ... |
| 11:39.57 | aprendiz001 | I get the size of the path in bytes and I convert the limit in bytes too |
| 11:40.04 | aprendiz001 | for comparing |
| 11:40.51 | jelly | why do you divide anything, then? |
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| 11:41.16 | jelly | (I mean, why divide by 1024; the percentage is another thing) |
| 11:41.29 | aprendiz001 | to convert the free space I calculate in bytes in MB |
| 11:41.51 | aprendiz001 | the percentage is for other thing |
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| 11:42.07 | aprendiz001 | I calculate the size of a path for getting warning |
| 11:42.11 | aprendiz001 | for example |
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| 11:42.24 | aprendiz001 | can I put the script in pastebin? |
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| 11:44.20 | jelly | sure. #bash would be a better place to discuss generic scripts though, this isn't really a Debian question |
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| 11:46.28 | aprendiz001 | ok |
| 11:47.37 | bazyl | i have problem with my numlock LED, works in inverse, when its on - numeric keyboard doesnt work, any clue? |
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| 11:50.04 | Deadboys | whats the name of the openssl development libraries in debian |
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| 11:50.09 | Deadboys | if canyone can tell me |
| 11:50.28 | Deadboys | the package i mean |
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| 11:51.07 | Deadboys | can anyone tell me? |
| 11:51.49 | bazyl | tell what? |
| 11:52.05 | Deadboys | whats the name of the openssl development libraries pakage |
| 11:52.27 | shabble | apt-cache search openssl | grep dev ? |
| 11:53.05 | Deadboys | thank you shabble |
| 11:53.25 | bazyl | try sth with 'dev' in the name ;) |
| 11:53.35 | Deadboys | i found it |
| 11:53.39 | Deadboys | its libssl-dev |
| 11:53.43 | Deadboys | thank though |
| 11:53.44 | bazyl | wow |
| 11:54.16 | bazyl | and anyone know, why numlock can work in inverse? |
| 11:54.29 | Deadboys | what do you mean |
| 11:54.34 | Deadboys | in inverse? |
| 11:54.45 | bazyl | when led is on keyboard doesnt work |
| 11:54.55 | bazyl | and when led is off - works fine |
| 11:55.11 | Deadboys | thats the point of numlock |
| 11:55.17 | Deadboys | lock the number keypad lol |
| 11:55.27 | Deadboys | oh wait |
| 11:55.29 | Deadboys | no its not |
| 11:55.30 | Deadboys | :S |
| 11:55.31 | Deadboys | um |
| 11:55.36 | Deadboys | im not sure then |
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| 11:55.40 | Deadboys | broken keyboard maybe |
| 11:55.46 | liable | !enter |
| 11:55.47 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 11:55.47 | Deadboys | mine works just fine when my numlock is on |
| 11:55.49 | bazyl | no, under win works fine |
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| 11:56.06 | bazyl | alway works when led is on |
| 11:56.11 | bazyl | *always* |
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| 11:56.36 | bazyl | after debian upgrade from 4 to 5 i have that problem |
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| 11:59.20 | jilardi | hi |
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| 12:03.14 | mastro | where can i found some info on the lenny release? |
| 12:03.22 | mastro | is it confirmed on 14 Feb? |
| 12:04.25 | sep | mastro, we will only know that the 15th |
| 12:04.57 | jelly | on |
| 12:05.08 | jelly | ? |
| 12:05.18 | mastro | sep. Ok.. i can't find the news that say "lenny release will be on 14 feb", can you link me to it? |
| 12:05.32 | jelly | !lenny status |
| 12:05.51 | jelly | apt: lenny status |
| 12:06.04 | themill | ENOBOT, it's 12:05 |
| 12:06.04 | jelly | ! |
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| 12:06.16 | themill | http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2009/02/msg00000.html |
| 12:07.08 | jelly | apt: lenny status is <reply>Toolchain: frozen. Libs: frozen. Everything else: frozen. Entire archive: DEEP FREEZE! For more information, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2009/02/msg00000.html |
| 12:07.09 | apt | jelly: okay |
| 12:07.28 | jelly | apt: what's your command character again? |
| 12:07.35 | themill | ~ping |
| 12:07.36 | apt | ~pong |
| 12:07.40 | jelly | ~ding |
| 12:07.40 | apt | dong |
| 12:07.44 | jelly | \o/ |
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| 12:08.04 | themill | jelly: dpkg is back now anyway |
| 12:08.05 | jilardi | I am new to debian.... I am having trouble finding a simple single CD iso installer for it. :( I found one for Ubuntu, but I really want to start with debian directly. |
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| 12:08.17 | themill | !getting debian |
| 12:08.18 | dpkg | To get Debian, see http://www.us.debian.org/distrib/ |
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| 12:08.29 | jilardi | tnx |
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| 12:09.06 | mastro | thanks... |
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| 12:25.30 | esundin | I've just configured one of my machines (lenny) to act as a router and the boxes behind it seems to get on the internet allright, but the lan that the router is connected to seems to be unreachable (when I try to ping anything there it just times out...) since my dns server is on that lan this bothers me slightly. I know little about networking and I used guidedog to set this up, I would appreciate any and all help. |
| 12:26.41 | rahsputin | Hi. I built the latest stable 2.6.28 kernel from kernel.org and did: # make-kpkg --initrd kernel_image when i : $ sudo dpkg -i linux-image-2.6.28-custom...deb i get a message that reads: http://rafb.net/p/TCFR7782.html how can solve this message ? |
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| 12:28.04 | frostschutz | esundin: unreachable from where? |
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| 12:28.55 | rahsputin | the " Hmm " parts of the paste, because when i boot my laptop with the new kernel it doesnt have the modules i need |
| 12:29.03 | esundin | frostschutz: from anything connected to the router. |
| 12:29.21 | valdyn | esundin: masqueraded hosts cant be reached, so you probably dont want to masquerade when accessing the neighbour lan |
| 12:29.36 | valdyn | esundin: ... if i understand your setup correctly |
| 12:29.50 | frostschutz | esundin: so you want the router to act as a switch for the local network so the local network machines can see each other via the router only? |
| 12:30.04 | esundin | valdyn: I belive you do, I'll try. |
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| 12:31.42 | esundin | frostschutz: I have no idea what you mean (as I said networking is quite a challange for me...) but valdyns idea worked fine (and it was real easy to setup in guidedog too!) |
| 12:31.59 | esundin | valdyn: Thanks! |
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| 12:32.14 | frostschutz | ok, whatever :) |
| 12:34.08 | Blackshark | rvsjoen: i ryed not wo change the cflags but all retries had the same effect. would it help to pastebin the last few lines of the error? |
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| 12:49.23 | mardi | hiya |
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| 13:00.56 | thehook | !lenny |
| 13:00.56 | dpkg | rumour has it, lenny is the codename for the next Debian release (5.0, currently also known as "testing"). Lenny will be released real soon now.... To upgrade to lenny, ask me about <etch->lenny>. Lenny is the binoculars. See also <wwlr> <testing> and <lenny status>. |
| 13:01.33 | thehook | !lenny status |
| 13:01.33 | dpkg | Toolchain: frozen. Libs: frozen. Everything else: frozen. Entire archive: DEEP FREEZE! For more information, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2009/02/msg00000.html or ask me about <lenny release notes><etch->lenny><rc-alert>. |
| 13:02.11 | icebrain | hey, what's testing next codename? |
| 13:02.19 | liable | squeeze |
| 13:02.29 | liable | thehook: you can /msg dpkg |
| 13:02.37 | stew | (the three eyed alien toys) |
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| 13:03.26 | icenine | does anyone know if there is a debian package for the newer mplayer with compiled libavcodec support for .flv files? |
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| 13:04.25 | liable | probably in debian-multimedia.org if its available |
| 13:04.27 | stew | icenine: if there is, it would be on debian-multimedia, not actually in debian |
| 13:04.35 | icenine | cool |
| 13:04.37 | icenine | thanks dudes |
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| 13:05.08 | liable | np |
| 13:05.41 | icebrain | dpkg has a bug in !codenames |
| 13:05.41 | dpkg | icebrain: wish i knew |
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| 13:06.04 | icebrain | s/bug/spelling error/ :P |
| 13:06.28 | andddy | hi |
| 13:06.36 | icebrain | hi |
| 13:06.38 | andddy | I have just installed Debian on my system |
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| 13:07.12 | andddy | but in synaptic I can't find for example pidgin and the amsn I found there is outdated and cannot connect to current msn protocol |
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| 13:07.15 | icenine | meh the mailing list says that they haven't been compiled against libavcodec52 |
| 13:07.28 | icenine | how do I get you guys to take my package? :D I'm definitely going to compile it |
| 13:07.48 | andddy | did i do anything wrong? |
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| 13:08.58 | icebrain | andddy: if you installed etch (stable) you still have gaim |
| 13:09.03 | icebrain | andddy: not pidgin |
| 13:09.03 | andddy | and the scroling on my touchpad doesn't work at all. whereas it works on some life cds |
| 13:09.04 | stew | icenine: who do you mean by "you guys"? |
| 13:09.39 | boulbul | hi, I have a webcam Manufacturer: Vimicro Corp., chipset: ZC0301[P] that is not working right now...I am running debian lenny on an ibm x61 |
| 13:09.40 | boulbul | thanks |
| 13:09.43 | andddy | icebrain: yes, stable. Thanks for the hint. Am new to linux and just know kopete, pidgin and amsn. But if gaim works, i will use it, thank you |
| 13:09.59 | icenine | stew, the developers, but it seems ffmpeg just has et to support the particular flv I am wanting to play :( |
| 13:09.59 | icebrain | andddy: gaim in pidgin before the rename |
| 13:10.02 | icenine | so I am back to square one now |
| 13:10.08 | icebrain | andddy: so it's an old version |
| 13:10.17 | andddy | should i better have installed testing?? |
| 13:10.24 | icebrain | andddy: "stable" usually hasn't the latest versions |
| 13:10.25 | andddy | I thought this would be unstable then |
| 13:10.48 | icebrain | andddy: testing is more appropriate for a personal computer, imho |
| 13:10.52 | boulbul | the dmessage output is: http://pastebin.com/m26a2d931 |
| 13:10.58 | andddy | ok, I will get testing then |
| 13:11.05 | stew | andddy: you can use gaim in stable, or you could get pidgin from backports: /msg dpkg backports ; /msg dpkg bpo |
| 13:11.13 | andddy | thank you, icebrain. |
| 13:11.16 | icebrain | andddy: but you can change de sources.list to "testint" and do dist-upgrade, |
| 13:11.19 | stew | andddy: (or you could upgrade to lenny, which becomes the new stable this weekend) |
| 13:11.27 | icebrain | andddy: no need to reinstall |
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| 13:11.30 | liable | maybe :P |
| 13:11.54 | andddy | icebrain, stew no need to reinstall? Sound perfect. So how exactly do i upgrade to testing? |
| 13:12.14 | stew | andddy: follow chapter 4 of the release notes: /msg dpkg lenny release notes |
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| 13:14.36 | andddy | but this will then still be stable? not testing? |
| 13:14.44 | Ip_Man | can i somehow mount a folder via sftp? |
| 13:15.01 | icebrain | andddy: yeah, lenny will be released as stable soon |
| 13:15.02 | jelly | Ip_Man: sshfs does that |
| 13:15.07 | Ip_Man | thx |
| 13:15.23 | andddy | oh, and i can't mount a ntfs partition, do i need to install anything for for that? or will upgrade solve that prob as well? |
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| 13:15.54 | andddy | icebrain: but if i wanna permanently ugrade to the latest testing? how to do that? |
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| 13:16.40 | icebrain | andddy: if you write "testing" in the sources.list file, he should always get the current testing packages |
| 13:16.42 | stew | andddy: the same way as you update to lenny, but instead of using "lenny" in sources.list, you'd use "tesating" |
| 13:17.04 | andddy | ok |
| 13:17.09 | liable | i wouldnt use testing in sources.list |
| 13:17.18 | andddy | and where is sources.list ? |
| 13:17.21 | andddy | in what dirà |
| 13:17.23 | andddy | ? |
| 13:17.26 | stew | andddy: man sources.list |
| 13:17.29 | icebrain | liable: why not? |
| 13:17.42 | Ip_Man | jelly, and can i do something so make it a lil bit faster |
| 13:17.44 | Ip_Man | ? |
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| 13:18.12 | andddy | thx, stew |
| 13:18.14 | liable | icebrain: because once lenny releases, sid and the new testing get a big bunch of new and quite likely buggy packages |
| 13:18.31 | stew | yes, testing becomes a mess as soon as the freeze is lifted |
| 13:18.50 | icebrain | liable: I'm running sid with a touch of experimental :P |
| 13:19.08 | liable | bully for you :P |
| 13:19.25 | icebrain | will all hell brake loose when lenny is released? |
| 13:19.26 | stew | which just means the problems you get get fixed quicker than the problems that will happen in testing |
| 13:20.35 | stew | icebrain: becuase all of the sudden the freeze which has been in place for unstable->testing migration for 7 months gets lifted and packages flood in from unstable at the same time that developers start uploading lots of new packages to unstable |
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| 13:21.03 | andddy | will upgrade solve the prob that i cannot mount my ntfs partition or do i have to do something about that? |
| 13:21.15 | stew | icebrain: so you quickly end up with lots of untested package combinations in testing, and fixing problems in testing requires new packages to be uploaded to unstable which require a new waiting period to move to testing |
| 13:21.39 | stew | andddy: do you need read-write? or just read? |
| 13:21.49 | andddy | both, stew |
| 13:22.13 | stew | andddy: then you need ntfs-3g, which isn't in stable. it is in testing, or in etch-backports (/msg dpkg backports) |
| 13:22.44 | andddy | thank you |
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| 13:24.20 | andddy | last question: mouse usage with touchpad is a bit tedious as the scrolling doesn't work, and the certain doble-click you use for drag and drop an touchpad doesn't work. Can't find setting for that in system-mouse. |
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| 13:24.41 | stew | andddy: /msg dpkg synaptics |
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| 13:25.54 | andddy | thank you guys |
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| 13:25.59 | andddy | gotta go now |
| 13:26.06 | andddy | have a nice day! :-) |
| 13:26.16 | hans | em, anyone know a good and simple to use proxy server? I tried tinyproxy and ffproxy and they work great, except I can't figure out how to add user/password authentication. the only authentication you can do is put in rules regarding which ip's can connect, etc |
| 13:26.40 | dtcrshr | hi folks, i got a debian machine, and need to turn it into a gateway/firewall. iv managed to create my ppp tunnel, and to set both eth to access the internet, but other hosts cant surf, beside they can ping my machine. |
| 13:26.41 | dtcrshr | http://pastebin.com/m2fba6927 |
| 13:27.02 | dtcrshr | what am I missing? im clueless. |
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| 13:34.50 | jelly | dtcrshr: ipmasq? |
| 13:35.28 | dtcrshr | what do u mean jelly? |
| 13:35.41 | jelly | dtcrshr: can we see your nat table? |
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| 13:36.41 | jelly | dtcrshr: I mean, did you forget to run something like iptable -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE ? |
| 13:36.54 | jelly | dtcrshr: (or use ipmasq to do it for you) |
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| 13:37.18 | dtcrshr | ill search about ipmasq |
| 13:37.35 | TTT | hi, for some reason gdesklets keeps crashing on startup on my lenny setup. does anyone else have this problem? |
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| 13:37.56 | dtcrshr | i am now on the debian machine, with internet. actually, i need at least to share it th the eth1. |
| 13:38.02 | petemc | TTT: check the bts |
| 13:38.20 | jelly | dtcrshr: is ip_forward enabled on eth1? |
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| 13:38.48 | libertad0 | Good morning |
| 13:38.54 | libertad0 | I have problems trying to run squid. That's my error --> http://pastebin.com/m7ddbadd |
| 13:38.57 | libertad0 | Someone could help me? |
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| 13:39.08 | dtcrshr | http://pastebin.com/m2fba6927 |
| 13:39.13 | dtcrshr | take a look on my iptables -L |
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| 13:39.57 | jelly | dtcrshr: iptables -L is not enough. pastebin the complete iptables setup, or at least iptables -t nat -L in addition to this. |
| 13:40.18 | jelly | dtcrshr: cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward? |
| 13:41.09 | dtcrshr | 1 |
| 13:41.23 | jelly | all right, that's the way it should be |
| 13:41.50 | dtcrshr | is there a file with the iptables configuration? or i can just see the rules from the command line -L? |
| 13:42.05 | dtcrshr | would be much easyer if i could edit a script file with the iptables content |
| 13:42.13 | TTT | hmm, BTS has some quite major bugs on it, so I'll assume gdesklets is broken. Too bad I don't have the time to investigate it further |
| 13:42.25 | jelly | dtcrshr: you could use iptables-save and iptables-restore |
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| 13:44.19 | dtcrshr | hm.. where do the iptables-save leaves the save file? |
| 13:44.26 | jelly | standard output :-) |
| 13:44.37 | dtcrshr | im newba |
| 13:44.56 | dtcrshr | lacking some basic informations |
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| 13:45.13 | jelly | redirect it to a file of your choosing: iptables-save > iptables-setup |
| 13:45.45 | dtcrshr | ah ok |
| 13:45.54 | dtcrshr | i thought it was done automaticaly |
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| 13:46.24 | jelly | nope, Debian doesn't set up or take care of iptables automatically |
| 13:46.29 | jelly | (not by default anyway) |
| 13:46.58 | dtcrshr | http://pastebin.com/m43279928 |
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| 13:47.52 | jelly | dtcrshr: I assume eth2 is your internet-facing interface? |
| 13:48.10 | dtcrshr | yes |
| 13:48.14 | dtcrshr | eth2 and eth3 |
| 13:48.27 | dtcrshr | if one of them dont work, for the hurry im in i dont bother |
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| 13:48.43 | dtcrshr | the load balance stuff is more hard than to just share the internet, ill look forward this later on |
| 13:49.33 | jelly | dtcrshr: and 200.145.121.0/24, 189.112.248.48/29 and 200.145.3.1 are on your internal network? |
| 13:50.02 | jelly | dtcrshr: are there any more IP ranges or interal lan machines you want to route thru that machine? |
| 13:50.02 | dtcrshr | my internal its 200.145.121 |
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| 13:50.13 | dtcrshr | no, my inside network its just that one |
| 13:50.28 | dtcrshr | 200.146, and 189.112 are my internet links |
| 13:50.50 | jelly | hm. |
| 13:51.17 | dtcrshr | if i got this with one line, very promiscuous, that would help me a lot |
| 13:51.38 | jelly | does internet work from that machine? |
| 13:51.44 | dtcrshr | i can go adding the blocks later, when i got time and so on |
| 13:51.45 | dtcrshr | im on it |
| 13:51.50 | dtcrshr | debian etch 4 |
| 13:51.54 | dtcrshr | just installed this morning |
| 13:52.09 | aronofsky | hi guys, i try to configure apt with a proxy, i used that : echo "Acquire::http::Proxy \"http://<IP>:8080\";" > /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/proxy ... the same proxy works ok with wget but here it doesn't seem to work , am I doin something wrong ? |
| 13:53.08 | jelly | dtcrshr: pastebin your "ifconfig -a" and "route -n" |
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| 13:54.21 | dtcrshr | ill paste on the pvt |
| 13:54.37 | themill | aronofsky: apt config syntax can be quirky. This certainly works OK though: http://rafb.net/p/8FDlcx51.html |
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| 13:55.39 | dtcrshr | ok |
| 13:55.59 | jelly | dtcrshr: please use the channel; also, route -n is not there. |
| 13:56.13 | dtcrshr | http://pastebin.com/m79d78d35 |
| 13:56.38 | dtcrshr | http://pastebin.com/m2d7852ac |
| 13:57.01 | themill | aronofsky: you can also export http_proxy="http://yourproxy:8080/" and apt will use that. |
| 13:57.03 | aronofsky | themill: hum, not better here, still unable to fetch |
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| 13:57.55 | jelly | dtcrshr: dunno, afaict it should work |
| 13:58.10 | dtcrshr | hm.. |
| 13:58.37 | dtcrshr | on a windows station i got near me, i can pink this debian box |
| 13:58.44 | dtcrshr | wich its .121.6 |
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| 13:58.52 | dtcrshr | but i cant tracert, and cant surf |
| 13:58.58 | dtcrshr | ping |
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| 13:59.13 | dtcrshr | and the routing is 1, as u asked... im clueless |
| 13:59.19 | jelly | dtcrshr: are you sure you need to NAT your networks behind the single IP, or do you need to really route the traffic for 200.145.121.0/24 ? |
| 13:59.50 | dtcrshr | well, i just need to route the traffic |
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| 14:00.08 | dtcrshr | for everyone on the 200.145.121.0 netowrk, be able to surf on the links on eth2 and eth3 |
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| 14:00.34 | dtcrshr | the most important, is that people on the 121.0 netowrk, can use throught the ppp0 tunnel |
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| 14:01.13 | dtcrshr | actually, if i set the ppp0 tunnel, and all trafic from the 121.0 goes through it would be fine |
| 14:01.23 | dtcrshr | not a clean solution, but will kill my problem |
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| 14:01.47 | dtcrshr | the proprietary sofware we got here, only work on that valid network, 200.145 |
| 14:01.55 | jelly | dtcrshr: if those IP addresses are correct, it's weird because I can ping 200.145.121.1 from here. |
| 14:02.04 | dtcrshr | its our router |
| 14:02.15 | dtcrshr | some ips are public, .1, .10, .5, .60 |
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| 14:02.35 | dtcrshr | but this router will go down. so theese machines will go through here |
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| 14:03.00 | jelly | so you need to replace that router, and not do NAT at all. |
| 14:03.04 | dtcrshr | ill give you mor information. we got a link here that will be disconnected, today by the end of the day |
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| 14:03.08 | dtcrshr | i got ... 6 hours |
| 14:03.52 | dtcrshr | so, we wont have access anymore from the router/ frame relay link to our 200.145 network, unless i got this two adsl regular lines to connect to the vpn |
| 14:03.59 | dtcrshr | and share to the inner netowrk |
| 14:04.04 | jelly | dtcrshr: right, and will your routing information be updated? Do you care if 200.145.121.0/24 network is not visible from the outside? |
| 14:04.28 | jelly | dtcrshr: or do you just want internet connection to work? |
| 14:04.37 | dtcrshr | i need them to go out too |
| 14:04.46 | dtcrshr | .5 , .60 are my webpage servers |
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| 14:05.18 | jelly | out is easy, and that's what you're trying to set up now. inbound won't be that easy. |
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| 14:06.13 | jelly | dtcrshr: basically all your machines will be hidden behind 200.146.210.241 |
| 14:06.32 | dtcrshr | yeah, besides .5, .2 and .60 |
| 14:06.38 | dtcrshr | just looked at my ips table |
| 14:06.48 | dtcrshr | .5 and .60 are two web servers, and .2 its my webmail |
| 14:06.59 | dtcrshr | only this 3 ips needs to be public |
| 14:07.03 | jelly | dtcrshr: and how will those be connected to the internet? |
| 14:07.11 | dtcrshr | though here |
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| 14:07.25 | dtcrshr | when its done, ill change this machine ip to the router address |
| 14:07.34 | jelly | oh. |
| 14:07.35 | dtcrshr | so i dont need to go on everymachine and set the new gateway |
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| 14:07.39 | dtcrshr | se dont use dhcp |
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| 14:07.48 | dtcrshr | the router its 121.10 |
| 14:07.56 | dtcrshr | and im using here as temporary 121.6 |
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| 14:08.10 | dtcrshr | when the link drops, ill just change this to .10 |
| 14:08.11 | jelly | dtcrshr: how will the rest of the internet know how to get to 121.10 when your FR goes down? |
| 14:08.30 | jelly | dtcrshr: will your ISP update the routes? |
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| 14:08.46 | dtcrshr | yes. theese two links are static ips |
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| 14:09.12 | dtcrshr | if not, they will reach through the vpn |
| 14:09.34 | dtcrshr | temporarily the vpn server its routing my address through there |
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| 14:11.07 | kombi | mdadm --fail works but --remove doesn't (resource busy). What am I doing wrong? |
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| 14:12.17 | jelly | dtcrshr: Ok. So you won't need any masquerading at all, but proper routing, and will have to clear those POSTROUTING lines after the switchover. I still don't get why it isn't working now, and the setup, know that I understand it, is over my head. :-) Try #netfilter (or #iptables) or ##networking |
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| 14:12.45 | dtcrshr | jelly, good news. the link is already done on our new building, so i just need to share the internet |
| 14:13.01 | dtcrshr | the webservers will go today to the new building, and work by there |
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| 14:13.28 | dtcrshr | btw, thanks for the good attention ahd the help |
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| 14:14.04 | dtcrshr | lets forget about the outside access. i really need to share the interent from here.. can u help me with this step? |
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| 14:16.28 | jelly | what you already have should work, so I'm slightly puzzled. The only difference between your current setup and mine is that I'm indiscriminately masquerading everything that goes out my internet line, and you specify only some networks with -s |
| 14:18.36 | dtcrshr | i see. |
| 14:19.14 | dtcrshr | do i have to set something else to share the dns resolving? |
| 14:19.37 | dtcrshr | as u said its configures right, maybe its just not passing the dns to the netowrk |
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| 14:26.35 | dentifrice | hey there - how do I print out the chunk size of my RAID1 array? |
| 14:28.20 | abrotman | sw or hw? |
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| 14:28.26 | enouf | does /proc/mdstat show it? or mdadme --scan or something, see the man pages |
| 14:28.26 | dentifrice | software |
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| 14:28.38 | dentifrice | I'm looking through mdadm --misc |
| 14:28.53 | elyezer | how can I get proprietary driver for my wifi card? |
| 14:29.09 | elyezer | I think is the iwifi that show during the installation |
| 14:29.18 | enouf | we know your wifi card? |
| 14:29.47 | elyezer | enouf, one moment I search the model |
| 14:29.53 | elyezer | is a intel card |
| 14:29.59 | elyezer | but I'll get the model |
| 14:30.02 | enouf | elyezer: lspci -nn |
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| 14:30.14 | dentifrice | mdadm --misc --detail doesn't output chunksize |
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| 14:31.05 | enouf | rgrep -i chunk /usr/share/doc/mdadm |
| 14:31.09 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:31.42 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:33.09 | elyezer | enouf, 06:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection [8086:4222] |
| 14:33.44 | enouf | elyezer: http://wiki.debian.org/ipw3945 |
| 14:33.45 | themill | elyezer: etch or lenny? (and if etch, what kernel, uname -r) |
| 14:34.01 | elyezer | themill, lenny |
| 14:34.06 | enouf | elyezer: and /msg dpkg 3945 |
| 14:34.09 | elyezer | debian 5.0 |
| 14:34.11 | themill | dpkg: tell elyezer about iwlwifi |
| 14:34.34 | themill | elyezer (enouf): with lenny you use the iwl3945 driver not the ipw3945 driver. |
| 14:34.35 | elyezer | themill, I think that is the name that showed in the installation |
| 14:35.00 | themill | elyezer: what kernel do you have? (output of "uname -r") |
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| 14:35.31 | idiyit | should I wait until lenny isreleased, or install now? |
| 14:35.41 | enouf | themill: yes, i see that now - elyezer if you have a .26, and lenny, use iwlwifi as themill mentioned |
| 14:35.42 | elyezer | themill, 2.6.26-1-686 |
| 14:35.49 | enouf | and what the wiki states |
| 14:35.51 | idiyit | what i'm asking is, can I upgrade? to the release |
| 14:36.24 | themill | idiyit: of course. Debian prides itself on being upgradable. Very little that you install is likely to change between now and the release. |
| 14:36.27 | elyezer | enouf, themill thanks |
| 14:36.33 | enouf | idiyit: debian is considered a rolling distro - which means, upgradeable ;-) |
| 14:36.51 | idiyit | thank you, that's great |
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| 14:37.30 | stew | by 'very little' he means 'probably nothing' |
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| 14:38.32 | themill | true, I said that a couple of days ago then and got 6 updated packages yesterday! |
| 14:39.10 | elyezer | what is the package for geforce 8400? |
| 14:39.25 | elyezer | I think that did not installed with the system |
| 14:39.37 | elyezer | let me find it |
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| 14:40.17 | enouf | elyezer: /msg dpkg nvidia (if you want 3D support) |
| 14:40.37 | elyezer | dpkg, nvidia |
| 14:40.37 | dpkg | To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. If you've done it before, asking me about <nvidia pre-built> or <nvidia m-a> might work (if you're using a GeForce 2 or older, ask me about <nvidia_legacy>). nvidia.com drivers (ie. <nvidia-installer>) are _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia (irc.freenode.net). |
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| 14:40.58 | abrotman | that was kind of like /msg ... |
| 14:41.10 | enouf | sort og .. |
| 14:41.15 | enouf | of* |
| 14:41.46 | elyezer | thanks for this initial help, I'm comming from mandriva and archlinux |
| 14:42.10 | abrotman | people still use mandriva? |
| 14:42.10 | karsten | elyezer: Welcome to the promised land. |
| 14:42.20 | enouf | elyezer: /msg dpkg grounding (shows many good docs/factoids to get you going) |
| 14:42.24 | elyezer | karsten, thanks |
| 14:42.39 | elyezer | enouf, thanks |
| 14:42.46 | elyezer | dpkg, is a nice bot |
| 14:42.46 | dpkg | elyezer: I give up, what is it? |
| 14:42.57 | elyezer | =D |
| 14:43.21 | enouf | heh - and she bites you in the ass sometimes ;-) |
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| 14:43.42 | stew | !bite enouf |
| 14:43.42 | dpkg | takes a big bite out of enouf's jugular vein |
| 14:43.52 | enouf | OW! |
| 14:44.00 | themill | dpkg, stupid bot |
| 14:44.00 | dpkg | no, stupid themill |
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| 14:44.30 | Maior | abrotman: until a month or two ago, I was a Mandriva user |
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| 14:44.45 | abrotman | i just didn't think people really still used it .. oh well |
| 14:44.50 | dentifrice | /sys/block/md*/md/chunk_size is set to 0 in my RAID1 setup |
| 14:44.51 | idiyit | i'm coming from windows 3.11 |
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| 14:45.02 | dentifrice | how can I know the actual chunk_size? |
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| 14:45.19 | elyezer | enouf, hehe |
| 14:45.53 | milligan_ | When I install stuff through apt-get, it adds menu items to my gnome. If I install fluxbox.. will there be similar menus, or will I have to reconstruct them myself ? |
| 14:46.20 | stew | milligan_: there will be similar menus |
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| 14:46.45 | stew | fluxbox: /etc/menu-methods/fluxbox |
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| 14:46.57 | lolufail | hi |
| 14:47.13 | mavez | guten tag herr dummersack |
| 14:47.23 | lolufail | munin does not show cpu usage, everything else works... is it possible that some package is mussing? |
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| 14:47.35 | lolufail | someone plz kick mavez? |
| 14:47.45 | mavez | lol |
| 14:47.46 | stew | mavez: english only in here please |
| 14:47.50 | mavez | ok |
| 14:48.13 | enouf | The size should be at least PAGE_SIZE (4k) and should be a power of 2. This can only be set while assembling an array |
| 14:48.17 | lolufail | mavez: and no insults, please |
| 14:48.22 | mavez | lol |
| 14:48.26 | abrotman | just put him on ignore |
| 14:48.35 | mavez | yeah put me on ignore please |
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| 14:48.45 | elyezer | the Debian way to install nvidia driver is very cool |
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| 14:49.46 | elyezer | there is a widget for the wireless conection that do some stuff like searching? |
| 14:49.59 | abrotman | a GUI? |
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| 14:50.33 | themill | dpkg: tell elyezer about wireless connection manager |
| 14:51.14 | elyezer | themill, thanks |
| 14:51.41 | pirunga | hi, I just boot today and my resolution was 600x400 (instead 1024X7..) , and Have NO configuration on xorg.conf, anyone can help me? |
| 14:52.03 | enouf | dentifrice: have you tried mdadm --examine --scan ? |
| 14:52.10 | elyezer | pirunga, what about reconfigure X? |
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| 14:52.26 | abrotman | pirunga: nvidia card? |
| 14:52.33 | pirunga | elyezer: I run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but nothing changed |
| 14:52.54 | dentifrice | enouf: yes, it outputs nothing |
| 14:53.06 | enouf | dentifrice: or even --detail and --verbose? |
| 14:53.10 | dentifrice | same |
| 14:53.12 | elyezer | pirunga, it's strange, and I have no more ideas |
| 14:53.17 | enouf | dentifrice: are you even using mdadm? |
| 14:53.21 | dentifrice | enouf: yes! |
| 14:53.31 | enouf | dentifrice: uname -r |
| 14:53.32 | dentifrice | enouf: sorry, --detail does output a lot |
| 14:53.39 | dentifrice | enouf: but it doesn't mention chunk_size |
| 14:53.52 | abrotman | pirunga: nvidia? updated kernel? |
| 14:53.59 | enouf | dentifrice: then it's your FS size .. i'd say, 4096 |
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| 14:54.04 | dentifrice | enouf: 2.6.18-6-amd64 |
| 14:54.10 | cousin_luigi | good afternoon to everybody! |
| 14:54.12 | cousin_luigi | :) |
| 14:54.29 | pirunga | abrotman: Iam using nvidia, but i ran m-a auto install nvidia |
| 14:54.30 | dentifrice | enouf: I need to be sure so I can make XFS optimisations |
| 14:54.35 | enouf | dentifrice: the chuck size gets set upon building the array, as the docs mention |
| 14:54.42 | abrotman | pirunga: you'll have to check your Xorg.0.log |
| 14:54.44 | dentifrice | yes, but I didn't built this array |
| 14:54.45 | pirunga | abrotman: and i didnt changed my kenerl... |
| 14:54.52 | dentifrice | and I assume whoever did used the defaults |
| 14:55.01 | enouf | dentifrice: well, rebuild it then - what do you want? magic? ;-) |
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| 15:01.20 | Phlogi | can sed directly change a file, without creating a temporary file? |
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| 15:01.53 | stew | Phlogi: no, but you can make this transparant by using -i |
| 15:01.55 | themill | Phlogi: gnu sed can, ancient unix sed cannot. Look at the -i option. |
| 15:01.59 | enouf | there might be a way, through a pipe or soemthing |
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| 15:02.10 | roe_ | are the rumors true? is Lenny going stable on Saturday? |
| 15:02.20 | themill | roe_: /topic |
| 15:02.24 | Phlogi | stew: if i use -i with same file name than i get what I want? |
| 15:02.26 | liable | probably not |
| 15:02.31 | stew | roe_: yes though the process could go into sunday |
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| 15:02.45 | stew | Phlogi: yes though under the hood it is doing it via a temporary file |
| 15:03.00 | enouf | indeed |
| 15:03.01 | stew | Phlogi: oh, and there is no "with the same filename" |
| 15:03.15 | roe_ | stew, hurray! |
| 15:03.18 | Phlogi | hmm |
| 15:03.35 | stew | roe_: there are still things that could put it off, but not many |
| 15:03.51 | roe_ | and we're just saying fsk it to the 101 outstanding bugs? |
| 15:04.11 | stew | roe_: read the d-d-a mail in /msg dpkg lenny status |
| 15:04.35 | monkey_d_luffy | qt makefiles check qt version with QT_VERSION=$$[QT_VERSION] Is there any way for me to check this manually in my shell? |
| 15:04.49 | enouf | echo $VAR ? |
| 15:05.12 | enouf | printenv? |
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| 15:06.00 | enouf | though 2 $$ scares me :-p |
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| 15:06.48 | roe_ | I can't wait to see the flood of packages being submitted to the new testing once lenny goes stable |
| 15:07.16 | themill | roe_: have you ever used testing just after a stable release? It's generally not a pretty sight. |
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| 15:07.37 | roe_ | oh I don't plan on using it, just watching it |
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| 15:07.44 | AVRS | Hi. What can make wmii in lenny/sid (and also a checkinstall build from the snapshot from wmii's website) blank the client labels when programs try to change them? They are not simply not rendered -- when I write something in them, they are rendered (too early to talk about UTF-8), but they become empty again when a program changes its title. |
| 15:07.45 | liable | its a great time to lart sid users here though :) |
| 15:08.01 | craigevil | liable: :P |
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| 15:08.05 | idiyit | whaats lart? |
| 15:08.21 | craigevil | kde4 hitting sid will give me a reason to switch to lxde on my desktop |
| 15:08.38 | jelly | craigevil: kde4 pretty! :-D |
| 15:09.17 | craigevil | upgrading might be ok, i tried kde4.1 and it ran like crap |
| 15:09.38 | liable | jelly: is it really? |
| 15:10.20 | jelly | declines to answer |
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| 15:10.41 | whiteplane | how to nicelly see all current network connections opened? |
| 15:10.42 | craigevil | the only kde apps i really use much anyway are k3b,kpdf and ktorrent |
| 15:10.45 | stew | liable: its like a baby, you have to agree with the parents and say it is cute, even when it isn't |
| 15:10.46 | liable | beats it out of jelly with a wet trout |
| 15:10.48 | jamon | i'm finding 4.2 to be decent |
| 15:10.48 | petemc | form over function seems to be most peoples view of kde4 |
| 15:10.58 | idiyit | stew lol |
| 15:11.06 | jelly | liable: I've only ran parts of it in xfce: control panel, konqueror and amarok. |
| 15:11.26 | themill | stew: I thought that was the excuse for gnome |
| 15:11.28 | liable | stew: i see, so its a redhead? ;) |
| 15:11.29 | themill | hides |
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| 15:11.54 | jelly | liable: the first two are nice. The latter is crippled. |
| 15:12.07 | jelly | s/latter/last one/ |
| 15:12.12 | idiyit | i understand kde and the direction it has gone in, i've just gone in the opposite direction |
| 15:12.17 | stew | yes. kde is like a redhed |
| 15:12.23 | enouf | liable: more like ; .. it looks like ernest borgnine ... in a bikini |
| 15:12.39 | liable | i'll wait till it hits sid to decide |
| 15:12.43 | jelly | stew: indeed. they have a bugzilla like that other redh* thing |
| 15:13.02 | liable | i generally like kde, we'll see if it makes me switch. |
| 15:13.05 | lolufail | anybody knows why munin isnt graphing any cpu usage? |
| 15:13.11 | bullgard4 | enouf: I tried to send you a /msg. Apparently it did not reach you as I received "16:02 -!- enouf:: No such nick/channel." |
| 15:13.25 | enouf | bullgard4: hrm ... |
| 15:13.34 | jamon | whiteplane: check netstat -taun |
| 15:13.46 | liable | bullgard4: you need to be registered to /msg |
| 15:13.47 | enouf | bullgard4: remove the :: or one of them |
| 15:13.48 | jamon | whiteplane: or -taunc to see an indefinitely updated list |
| 15:14.06 | nano- | I've created a debian package, and conffiles is properly generated, then i install the package with dpkg -i thepackage.deb which adds the config stuff to /etc/foo/*.conf, then i do rm /etc/foo/*, and then dpkg -i thepackage.deb again.. and now the /etc/foo directory is still empty. Is this the correct behavior? |
| 15:14.07 | themill | liable: it seems that there's almost enough of the kde apps that now use kde4 to make it worthwhile trying it out. |
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| 15:14.23 | enouf | liable: we've /msg'd before many times - but perhaps he's not IDENT'd just now .. or .. |
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| 15:14.38 | enouf | bullgard4: i'll send to you now |
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| 15:15.03 | themill | nano-: yes. /msg dpkg confmiss |
| 15:15.06 | liable | themill: i try and avoid experimental unless its really neccessary, new kde isnt ;) |
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| 15:15.21 | jamon | liable: /etc/apt/preferences is your friend :) |
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| 15:15.43 | liable | ohrly |
| 15:15.48 | themill | liable: quite. Until everything is ported to kde4, I'll quite happily stick with 3.5.x. I like working with not working on my machines. |
| 15:16.14 | nano- | themill: thanks! |
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| 15:20.03 | lolufail | how many _desktop_ users are there, with debian?!? |
| 15:20.25 | stew | lolufail: impossible to know |
| 15:20.34 | Maior | is one |
| 15:20.44 | lolufail | just wondering since you are talking about kde ;) |
| 15:20.54 | Maior | if by "desktop user" you mean "runs Debian on a desktop" |
| 15:20.59 | lolufail | debian and desktop is pretty contradictory imo |
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| 15:21.07 | stew | i'd certainly not run anything but debian on my desktops |
| 15:21.17 | jamon | lolufail: your name describes my thoughts about your last statement |
| 15:21.24 | stew | and havent run anything but debian for many years |
| 15:21.26 | Maior | heh |
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| 15:21.43 | lolufail | and my thoughts about people using antique software for nonproductive things ;) |
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| 15:22.10 | themill | lolufail: I've been using debian as my one and only desktop os for years. I'm sitting in front of 2 debian desktop machines and a laptop right now |
| 15:22.37 | stew | lolufail: i only use antique software for nonproductive things once a year or so when i decide to fire up angband or something |
| 15:22.38 | icebrain | me too, laptop running Debian |
| 15:22.57 | icebrain | I prefer Zork :P |
| 15:23.09 | lolufail | interesting.. I only use debian for servers, never my personal stuff ;) |
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| 15:23.15 | lolufail | that would then be ubuntu :P |
| 15:23.16 | rgr | debian lenny on my thinkpad too. |
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| 15:23.42 | lolufail | flamewar go. |
| 15:23.48 | themill | lolufail: if you're just here to troll, then move on. This particular broken record is boring. |
| 15:23.57 | rgr | lolufail: I thought your nym sounded a bit Ubuntu'ish :-; |
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| 15:24.19 | lolufail | I do have >100 server running debian though ;) for good reasons |
| 15:24.28 | rgr | sure you do. |
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| 15:24.47 | frostschutz | I use Gentoo on my desktop, Debian on my netbook, and server. I use Ubuntu as Live CD. Use whatever works for you, no need to flamewar about it... |
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| 15:25.20 | themill | lolufail: right, and the reasons you use debian for a server are the same as the reasons I use it for a desktop -- stability, upgradability, not pissing around trying to work out what broke in the latest update. |
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| 15:25.45 | lolufail | themill: I disagree about the last part ;) |
| 15:25.53 | lolufail | even debian fucks up things with updatres |
| 15:26.00 | rgr | I must admit to not understading people who use 5 different distros for different "needs". A good stable distro like debian pretty much covers it all with some tweaking. Why pollute your mind with various distros with their petty differences? |
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| 15:26.49 | themill | lolufail: very very rarely. There was one bad samba update during the etch release cycle and that's all I can point to. |
| 15:26.50 | lolufail | rgr: gentoo is an awesome distribution if you have e nough time on your hands, so gentoo at home and debian for servers is a pretty good choice, if you love nightly amarok builds and stuff like that |
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| 15:27.09 | Maior | my laptops run Debian, my desktop runs Debian with GNU/{Hurd,kFreeBSD,Solaris} |
| 15:27.15 | Maior | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:27.17 | rgr | lolufail: Wha is it "awesome". Keeping in mind its an OS to run applications. |
| 15:27.21 | rgr | why |
| 15:27.37 | lolufail | rgr: layout. |
| 15:27.48 | rgr | layout? Please be more specific. |
| 15:27.48 | bullgard4 | [man lsof] Why does lsof differentiate between inode and node? |
| 15:27.55 | themill | points towards #debian-offtopic |
| 15:27.59 | rgr | true |
| 15:28.04 | lolufail | rgr: debian has some (imo) stupid layouting, gentoo is centered around /etc, has some cool rc-udpate scripts |
| 15:28.06 | lolufail | and so on |
| 15:28.08 | lolufail | portage ftw. |
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| 15:28.29 | rgr | lolufail: sounds like nonsensical changes for changes sake to me. |
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| 15:28.48 | icebrain | lolufail: rc-updates? |
| 15:28.48 | schasi | hello |
| 15:28.51 | icebrain | hi |
| 15:28.52 | lolufail | rgr: ?? |
| 15:28.59 | liable | lets not get into distro wars |
| 15:29.04 | stew | icebrain: ask about rc-update in #gentoo |
| 15:29.15 | scientes | m-a is awesome! |
| 15:29.17 | lolufail | icebrain: the script do edit runlevels is extremely convinient on gentoo, the update-rc.d thingy on debian really sucks |
| 15:29.27 | scientes | that was sweet |
| 15:29.36 | icebrain | do you mean sysv-rc-conf? |
| 15:29.47 | themill | lolufail: update-rc.d is principally designed for maintainer scripts. |
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| 15:30.53 | stew | lolufail: if you think you could improve on the debian scripts, please, by all means, send patches |
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| 15:31.42 | bigjocker | hi all |
| 15:31.44 | lolufail | how do I find out which runlevel is running currently? |
| 15:31.45 | bigjocker | quick question |
| 15:31.55 | bigjocker | lolufail, runlevel |
| 15:32.02 | bigjocker | lolufail, is a system command |
| 15:32.04 | lolufail | sysv-rc-conf is confusing.. |
| 15:32.22 | icebrain | well, there's rcconf |
| 15:32.27 | lolufail | though I admit, I didnt know it before ;) |
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| 15:32.55 | bigjocker | does anyone knows if the debian-Lenny-DI-rc2-amd64-kde-CD-1.iso installer image comes with KDE 3.5 or 4? |
| 15:32.59 | enouf | bullgard4: hi - i'm not certain, but i would gather that 'node' can be one of many things, whereas an 'inode' refers only to an internal File System data structure |
| 15:33.07 | themill | bigjocker: 3.5.9 |
| 15:33.12 | bigjocker | thethanks |
| 15:33.18 | bigjocker | themill, thanks |
| 15:33.23 | bigjocker | i despise KDE4 |
| 15:33.27 | bullgard4 | enouf: I see. |
| 15:33.41 | themill | lolufail: that's the approach I normally take too, criticise a set of tools first and then find out about them. |
| 15:33.49 | lolufail | is there a debian script like the gentoo rc-status ? |
| 15:33.50 | enouf | bullgard4: man mknod :-) (short for 'make node') |
| 15:33.58 | stew | lolufail: what does rc-status do? |
| 15:33.58 | lolufail | showing which scripts are acuelly up? |
| 15:34.02 | stew | lolufail: no |
| 15:34.15 | lolufail | themill: well, then my argument was valid, at last ;) |
| 15:34.30 | stew | lolufail: though now that we should have lsb compliance in init scripts, such things are more possible |
| 15:34.54 | bigjocker | lolufail, there's a curses based one ... but don't remember the name :( |
| 15:34.59 | stew | rcconf |
| 15:35.25 | lolufail | rcconf is pretty hacked together imo, does not show descriptions, what tim |
| 15:35.32 | enouf | bullgard4: do you have manpages-dev pkg installed? if so, try this; ~$ apropos node | grep -v inode |
| 15:35.33 | lolufail | time* it gets startet |
| 15:35.39 | lolufail | started* |
| 15:35.41 | lolufail | damn |
| 15:36.02 | stew | lolufail: that should be pretty easy for you to add |
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| 15:36.21 | stew | lolufail: or look at sysv-rc-conf or sysvconfig |
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| 15:36.28 | enouf | lolufail: rcconf (in sid) is pretty well fixed up now - i didn't realize it was ever a bit broken, since i use it so rarely, but i like it |
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| 15:36.35 | lolufail | stew: yeah, the always-valid "why dont you code it yourself" argument -.- |
| 15:36.37 | lolufail | thanks |
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| 15:37.11 | enouf | and no, nothing like rc-status, that you originally asked for though |
| 15:37.11 | liable | ah, and the always denying anything is better than what i sat argument.. |
| 15:37.18 | stew | yeah, well the "i don't like this script that someone volunteered to write" just doesn't have much pull |
| 15:38.00 | stew | lolufail: if you don't like sysv-rc you could also look at file-rc |
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| 15:38.13 | enouf | lolufail: how about this; "if you don't know what's running on your box, unplug it, and bury it in the yard" |
| 15:38.21 | bigjocker | lol |
| 15:38.22 | stew | lolufail: or upstart |
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| 15:38.43 | lolufail | well, ok, sysv-rc-conf is not bad, but you dont have and status overview :P |
| 15:38.57 | liable | i dont think he wants a working alternative. just to say that gentoo is better |
| 15:39.07 | enouf | file-rc makes one nice easy file from where all init can be configured - very slackwarish |
| 15:39.16 | beardy | You don't have things that you don't want to run installed. What is the problem. |
| 15:39.19 | lolufail | no I dont ;) gentoo sucks if you dont have time for endless compiles |
| 15:39.36 | lolufail | but the layout of the OS _is_ making more sense then for debian |
| 15:39.49 | lolufail | source scripts are easily written |
| 15:39.53 | beardy | That's where you're wrong, because this is #debian. |
| 15:40.45 | themill | !beardy++ |
| 15:40.48 | liable | i am sparta! |
| 15:40.50 | lolufail | oh, a question: why the hell does apt-get always start a new daemon I install? |
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| 15:41.09 | beardy | See above, don't install if you don't want a daemon. |
| 15:41.10 | theholyduck | the problem with gentoo is that the developers are pillocks and the people creating ebuilds are even WORSE pillocks |
| 15:41.21 | liable | lolufail: what do you mean? |
| 15:41.27 | stew | lolufail: ask the maintainer of the package containing the daemon, or file a wishlist bug if that is not appropriate |
| 15:41.34 | lolufail | beardy: why can't I configure the daemon FIRST before it gets started? |
| 15:41.41 | stew | lolufail: many daemons will install disabled by /etc/default/$INITSCRIPT |
| 15:41.45 | enouf | lolufail: or use apt-get -d .. until ready ;-) |
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| 15:41.56 | beardy | lolufail: Because the default desire is for one to get started with sane defaults. |
| 15:42.00 | stew | lolufail: if you feel like it is an error to start the daemon before it is configured, file a bug |
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| 15:42.22 | stew | lolufail: but this is really to be decided on a case by case basis |
| 15:42.42 | lolufail | doesnt apache and lighttpd get startet when the other is running? |
| 15:42.43 | lolufail | and so on? |
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| 15:42.49 | lolufail | it's like bruteforce |
| 15:43.10 | liable | if one needs configuring on install, it usually has a debconf postinst |
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| 15:43.17 | beardy | Those might, and probably aren't, but for many other things providing the same function, the packages conflict. |
| 15:43.28 | liable | otherwise, they just usually work as you would want |
| 15:43.38 | lolufail | for example munin-node |
| 15:43.40 | themill | lolufail: less complaining, less trolling, less emotive language, more bug reports, more patches. |
| 15:43.51 | lolufail | why would I want to start a localhost-only listening node?! |
| 15:43.52 | beardy | !themill++ |
| 15:43.56 | beardy | Over and out. |
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| 15:45.11 | behanw | lolufail: I don't know why you would want to, but I know why I would. |
| 15:45.17 | stew | lolufail: if you don't want a munin-node running, why are you installing the munin-node package? |
| 15:45.25 | lolufail | I do want it runnning |
| 15:45.33 | stew | ok, that is why you would start it then |
| 15:45.35 | lolufail | but listening to not only localhost ;) |
| 15:45.48 | osFrenchDude | Hi, I have a MX revolution and unfortunatly I can't use the "search" button. Can I tweak that ? |
| 15:45.49 | lolufail | so I have to install it - damn it runs -, I ahve to configure it, and REstart it |
| 15:45.53 | enouf | yawns |
| 15:45.56 | lolufail | that's my point, it doesnt make sense |
| 15:46.00 | behanw | lolufail: debian packages tend to start daemons as a part of install if they can be started without causing security issues, and actually do something |
| 15:46.07 | stew | lolufail: which part doens't make sense? |
| 15:46.25 | behanw | The better packages don't start until you configure and update a variable in the /etc/default/packagename file. |
| 15:46.29 | lolufail | starting packages that have to be configured to make sense |
| 15:46.35 | behanw | But that's really up to the packager. |
| 15:46.43 | lolufail | ok, then packager fail |
| 15:46.54 | stew | lolufail: munin-node has to be configured? its not possibly useful with the configuration it comes with? |
| 15:47.04 | lolufail | the node itself. no |
| 15:47.10 | behanw | munin-node is indeed useful the way it comes. |
| 15:47.16 | behanw | Of course it is. |
| 15:47.27 | lolufail | behanw: how? without a server on localhost? |
| 15:47.32 | behanw | I run munin and munin-node on servers all the time. |
| 15:47.35 | behanw | YEs. |
| 15:47.52 | stew | lolufail: what is wrong with a server on localhost? |
| 15:47.52 | behanw | I think you've picked a bad example to make your point. |
| 15:48.02 | lolufail | behanw: probably |
| 15:48.03 | behanw | That is a useful use case. |
| 15:48.16 | lolufail | stew: nothing wrong with that, but the node starts even without a server on localhost |
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| 15:48.40 | behanw | The if I install apache2 and lighttpd and boa on the same machine the first starts and the others don't is more of an issue. |
| 15:48.59 | lolufail | behanw: true ;) |
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| 15:49.04 | behanw | Though I agree that is also up to the admin to fix if that is indeed what they want to do. |
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| 15:49.08 | lolufail | same with ftp servers |
| 15:49.14 | stew | lolufail: ok, so it seems that you answered your own question |
| 15:49.16 | behanw | I sometimes run boa and lighttpd on the same server. |
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| 15:49.30 | lolufail | stew: ? |
| 15:49.32 | stew | lolufail: you can't have multiple ftp servers installed though |
| 15:49.50 | lolufail | stew: why not ;)? |
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| 15:50.05 | behanw | Remember most packages will be started if they do something useful, and only if they don't open any security issues. |
| 15:50.07 | stew | lolufail: becuase they all provide and conflict with the ftp-server virtual package |
| 15:50.09 | lolufail | the port can be changed, can it not |
| 15:50.16 | stew | lolufail: it can |
| 15:50.32 | behanw | The port can be changed, but why would you want to do that |
| 15:50.38 | lolufail | stew: well, that makes sense Oo..... why block ftp-daemon-packages for no apparent reason? |
| 15:50.49 | behanw | Having multiple web servers I can understand. |
| 15:50.52 | lolufail | well if I want to have several daemons running on the same server? why not |
| 15:50.56 | behanw | having multiple ftp servers doesn't make a lot of sense. |
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| 15:51.05 | behanw | Personally I try to have NO ftp servers installed |
| 15:51.10 | lolufail | yeah, but there might be a time where you need that |
| 15:51.21 | lolufail | and then it gets blocked by the packaging system |
| 15:51.23 | lolufail | lol |
| 15:51.24 | behanw | I can't think of one. |
| 15:51.39 | behanw | I think that's a reasonable restriction myself. |
| 15:51.40 | themill | !lol |
| 15:51.40 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 15:51.53 | lolufail | what if one ftp server parivularily good for mysql usage, and another is super-good for anonymous usage |
| 15:52.00 | lolufail | then you would want 2 packages running |
| 15:52.02 | stew | lolufail: do you really want me to search for the reason? or are you just wanting to complain? |
| 15:52.12 | enouf | themill: stop that! .. i almost triggered the <need> one :-P |
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| 15:52.17 | behanw | I would still argue that you should uninstall both and use scp instead. |
| 15:52.20 | themill | enouf: hehe |
| 15:52.28 | stew | lolufail: i'd recommend running one in a chroot then |
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| 15:52.43 | behanw | stew: you can't. The packages conflict |
| 15:52.58 | behanw | That's his point |
| 15:53.09 | themill | behanw: a debootstrap chroot has a separate dpkg database |
| 15:53.14 | enouf | not in a debootstrap chroot |
| 15:53.21 | behanw | True enough. |
| 15:53.27 | liable | how can you have two packages running on one port? |
| 15:53.34 | lolufail | liable: not. |
| 15:53.35 | behanw | But at that point you might as well build your own package, or compile from source. |
| 15:53.35 | Zielun | I want to buy a new laptop. What graphic card should I avoid when it comes to drivers and support? |
| 15:53.46 | behanw | Or run a virtual server. |
| 15:53.46 | stew | behanw: the one in the chroot wouldn't have any idea about the one outside the chroot and vice-versa |
| 15:53.54 | stew | behanw: so they wouldn't conflict |
| 15:54.04 | lolufail | why do I have to work around apt-get just to instlal 2 ftp daemons ;) |
| 15:54.07 | lolufail | thats ridiculus |
| 15:54.09 | liable | lolufail: so why do you need to be able to install two sepreate ftp servers? |
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| 15:54.14 | lolufail | I really dont |
| 15:54.15 | behanw | stew: I understand, but this is getting ridiculous. |
| 15:54.20 | lolufail | but the choice is taken from me |
| 15:54.39 | behanw | The point is running 2 ftp servers is again a bad example. :) |
| 15:54.50 | enouf | lolufail: no, the choice is the 'sane defaults' - what makes sense to the most people |
| 15:54.52 | liable | at this stage, i think i'll just lable you a troll.. |
| 15:54.59 | stew | lolufail: ok, which two do you want to install? |
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| 15:55.18 | behanw | lolufail: what is the real issue? What are you trying to do that you can't? |
| 15:55.20 | AVRS | Zielun: I don't know about the other ones, but I think you should avoid NVIDIA cards. |
| 15:55.46 | petemc | nvidia work fine for many people |
| 15:55.47 | liable | behanw: everything and anything just to be a pain in the ass and get attention in the channel |
| 15:55.50 | lolufail | nevermind, I'm just trolling ;) |
| 15:55.56 | enouf | lolufail: also, this is GNU/Linux - do as you like to it to customize it - remember - comes with NO WARRANTY! :-) |
| 15:55.56 | stew | lolufail: then kindly stop |
| 15:56.02 | AVRS | petemc: it worked for me too (nouveau and 6600) |
| 15:56.05 | behanw | lolufail, liable: fair enough |
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| 15:56.20 | themill | !trollstamp lolufail |
| 15:56.20 | dpkg | stamps lolufail on the ass with the official #debian Troll marker |
| 15:56.37 | lolufail | ;) |
| 15:56.45 | behanw | themill: nice. |
| 15:56.59 | AVRS | Zielun: they also can work though (see above). |
| 15:57.06 | lolufail | no, I actually do have a point, in debian is not about choice. but I dont have time to argue with debian fanboys ;) |
| 15:57.17 | liable | groan |
| 15:57.31 | lolufail | well, nice chat :) |
| 15:57.34 | schasi | Can i somehow start the kernel in "debug" mode? And the init scripts? My etch boots up to "Setting up ALSA... done (none loaded)." and hangs with no error at all |
| 15:57.36 | lolufail | bye :) |
| 15:57.37 | beardy | Kill it already. |
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| 15:57.43 | stew | lolufail: this is not the channel for it anyway. please bring up your concerns by either filing bugs, or by sending email to lists.debian.org/debian-devel or lists.debian.org/debian-project |
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| 15:58.42 | liable | he had no intention of that sort of thing |
| 15:59.00 | behanw | liable: I think you're right. |
| 15:59.02 | liable | it was a good subtle troll though |
| 15:59.07 | behanw | Indeed |
| 15:59.28 | enouf | farts |
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| 16:01.37 | osFrenchDude | Hi, I need a third button on my mouse (MX revolution) How can I map it, please |
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| 16:02.00 | liable | !xmodmap |
| 16:02.00 | dpkg | hmm... xmodmap is the tool from heaven. It fixed my backspace key to do what it's supposed to. (it modifies X keymaps), or, the tools from hell if you try to apply more than one modmap to the same session |
| 16:02.12 | liable | bah |
| 16:02.36 | liable | tries to remember the correct factoid |
| 16:02.43 | liable | !keycode |
| 16:02.53 | liable | phooey |
| 16:02.59 | zxxd | my stomach is doing weird noises |
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| 16:03.37 | themill | !microsoft mouse |
| 16:03.37 | dpkg | well, microsoft mouse is Option "Buttons" "7" and Option "ZAxisMapping" "6 7" in XF86Config* file and xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 2 3 6 7 4 5" to remap scrolling buttons, or xmodmap may be tricky to set if you use gnome-session ... put it somewhere where it will be executed after gnome-session loads (eg. /etc/profile, then start an xterm) |
| 16:03.44 | themill | liable: ^^ ? |
| 16:04.01 | liable | themill: that'll do .. ;) |
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| 16:04.13 | stew | xmodmap in /etc/profile? ew |
| 16:04.32 | themill | yes... that's ugly |
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| 16:04.57 | stew | gnome-session? ew :) |
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| 16:05.03 | p0g0 | boy, I'm glad I never got stamped on the ass by a troll (stamp). |
| 16:05.20 | themill | p0g0: there's still time... |
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| 16:08.06 | enouf | liable: were you thinking of <keymap>? :-) |
| 16:08.45 | liable | i think so |
| 16:09.51 | alcohol | any bash geeks here? I'm lost on an issue and #bash wasn't able to help to give me an answer either (few people active, active ones didn't really have a clue either) |
| 16:09.51 | enouf | themill: stew ".... after gnome-session loads .." ? isn't that what System > Preferences > Sessions is for? an Autostart place for scripts? |
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| 16:10.29 | Maior | alcohol: hard to say, without knowing the issue |
| 16:10.33 | stew | enouf: what is System? i have no idea :P |
| 16:10.49 | themill | enouf: that factoid looks sufficiently old that that it could mean anything... it was written in 2001, so think potato... |
| 16:10.50 | enouf | stew: me neither! but i'm told it works for many that use gnome! |
| 16:11.09 | enouf | themill: ok ... hash browns .. mmmm |
| 16:11.12 | liable | mmmm, potato |
| 16:11.23 | p0g0 | liable: wrong channel |
| 16:11.34 | alcohol | Maior: I have a script (http://pastie.org/386082), and inside that script a function which returns (I also tried echo) 0 or 1, but at that point the script keeps exiting (as shown here with -x output: http://pastie.org/386070) |
| 16:11.35 | newsense | im trying to burn an image to a dvd but when i try dd if=image of=/dev/hdc i get read-only filesystem, ideas ? |
| 16:11.41 | liable | indeed, /me heads off to feed wombat |
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| 16:14.14 | zahna | is there an apt flag or something that i'm not seeing that would give me a list of packages to be upgraded? |
| 16:14.24 | alcohol | apt-get update |
| 16:14.32 | zahna | but that asks me if i want to update |
| 16:14.33 | alcohol | and then |
| 16:14.36 | alcohol | then say no? |
| 16:14.45 | zahna | well, this will be in a script |
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| 16:15.03 | icebrain | echo no|apt-get update :P |
| 16:15.15 | zahna | heh |
| 16:15.26 | bullgard4 | enouf: I have manpages-dev pkg installed. I have read the output of '~$ apropos node | grep -v inode' and did some snooping in the ensuing documentation files. -- I will now put my question in a local mailing list. -- Thank you for your help. |
| 16:15.31 | stew | zahna: aptitude search '~U' |
| 16:15.46 | enouf | bullgard4: excellent ;-) |
| 16:15.59 | stew | zahna: or perhaps: aptitude -F%p search '~U' |
| 16:16.16 | zahna | is aptitude part of a base debian install? |
| 16:16.32 | alcohol | if it has apt |
| 16:16.38 | alcohol | it probably has aptitude.. |
| 16:16.44 | stew | zahna: yes |
| 16:16.50 | zahna | ok, cool |
| 16:17.03 | alcohol | Maior: I take it you have no clue either? :p |
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| 16:17.20 | themill | alcohol: check the syntax of line 96 more carefully |
| 16:17.28 | enouf | bullgard4: you might want to now look at some of the 'inode' related ones and see how they differ .. contextually even |
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| 16:17.43 | alcohol | themill: 96 is empty..? |
| 16:17.57 | alcohol | oh wait |
| 16:17.58 | stew | no, its not |
| 16:18.00 | themill | alcohol: not in the paste you gave us |
| 16:18.02 | alcohol | it's the if ! isIN |
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| 16:18.22 | enouf | newsense: is the image mounted? |
| 16:18.22 | Maior | ah |
| 16:18.24 | Maior | that'd do it |
| 16:18.28 | schasi | how can i find out why the init scripts hang at a certain point when booting? |
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| 16:19.17 | newsense | enouf: mo its on my filesystem |
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| 16:19.23 | alcohol | themill: I don't see what is wrong about that :( |
| 16:19.25 | enouf | zahna: apt-get -s upgrade |
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| 16:19.38 | alcohol | themill: if database isn't in the exclude list, proceed... |
| 16:20.00 | Maior | alcohol: nono |
| 16:20.06 | Maior | that's not how it works |
| 16:20.06 | themill | alcohol: your bash syntax is crap |
| 16:20.13 | enouf | heh |
| 16:20.22 | alcohol | :< |
| 16:20.30 | Maior | compare line 96 with 99 |
| 16:20.43 | enouf | newsense: and what type of FS is the image? |
| 16:21.03 | alcohol | Maior: I can use isIn inside [[ ]]? |
| 16:21.27 | scientes | whats the keyboard mapping command |
| 16:21.37 | newsense | enouf: iso 9660 |
| 16:22.00 | enouf | newsense: lsmod | egrep 'udf|isofs' |
| 16:22.01 | scientes | nv, |
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| 16:22.16 | enouf | setxkbmap ? |
| 16:22.21 | z0d14k | Anybody know if there is a way to reload iscsitarget after editing ietd.conf to export new targets without taking down existing targets? |
| 16:22.33 | enouf | or /msg dpkg keymap |
| 16:22.34 | abrotman | inetd.conf ? |
| 16:22.56 | enouf | !lart liable 's wombat |
| 16:22.56 | dpkg | lowers liable 's wombat's priority |
| 16:23.44 | newsense | enouf: i seem to not have those modules loaded |
| 16:23.59 | zahna | cool, thanks for your input guys |
| 16:23.59 | enouf | z0d14k: maybe through something like what rescan-scsi.sh does ? |
| 16:24.09 | abrotman | z0d14k: inetd.conf ? |
| 16:24.31 | newsense | enouf: i loaded both those modules but i get the same thing still |
| 16:25.07 | z0d14k | No, I am running iscsitarget. The box is exporting iscsi targets to other hosts. I created a new share, and want to export it. The config is /etc/ietd.conf (iscsi enterprise target daemon). |
| 16:25.25 | abrotman | z0d14k: sighup it maybe ? |
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| 16:25.44 | z0d14k | The only way I can find to re-read the config file and export the new shares is to restart the daemon. That briefly takes down all the targets, then puts them back.... |
| 16:25.45 | enouf | newsense: and is /dev/hdc a CDRW drive? and are you sure a Blank is in there? parse it with isoinfo, wodim, etc .. dvd+rw-mediainfo even |
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| 16:26.43 | newsense | enouf: im sure its a dvdrw drive and it is a blank, let me see what isoinfo and such think thanks |
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| 16:26.56 | AndreasMadrid | hallo. hab ein problem. hab debian bei mir aufm läppi installiert, aber die uhr geht falsch |
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| 16:27.30 | AndreasMadrid | ich hab angeklickt, dass sie auch sekunden zeigt und da sehe ich, dass sie ca. 100% zu schnell läuft |
| 16:27.38 | AndreasMadrid | also zwei sekunden pro dekunde |
| 16:27.43 | enouf | newsense: also note, when using dd that way, either use bs=2048 or try bs=32k ;-) i would just use growisofs myself ;-) |
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| 16:27.55 | liable | AndreasMadrid: english here |
| 16:28.04 | abrotman | !de |
| 16:28.04 | dpkg | deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). DE == Desktop Environment |
| 16:28.07 | AndreasMadrid | oh |
| 16:28.09 | AndreasMadrid | sorry |
| 16:28.19 | liable | np |
| 16:28.28 | abrotman | i think that was german ... |
| 16:28.29 | scientes | AndreasMadrid, they speed more deutsch at irc.oftc.net #debian |
| 16:28.35 | frostschutz | AndreasMadrid: must be a killer machine if the clock runs at double speed :) |
| 16:28.51 | AndreasMadrid | I have installed debian on my laptop and now i saw that the clock goes two seconds per second |
| 16:28.59 | newsense | enouf: thanks, ill just try that i guess, i don't do too much burning and im not sure why i was even using dd |
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| 16:29.02 | AndreasMadrid | frostschutz: no, just a normal current laptop |
| 16:29.13 | liable | meh, all the fun factoids have been sanitised |
| 16:29.28 | scientes | AndreasMadrid, sounds like cpu scaling |
| 16:29.29 | liable | blame the kernel. |
| 16:29.42 | AndreasMadrid | forstschutz: maybe because its dual core? but dual core is pretty normal nowadays as well |
| 16:29.54 | AndreasMadrid | scientes: and what can i do about that? |
| 16:30.12 | scientes | AndreasMadrid, try another kernel first probably |
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| 16:30.46 | AndreasMadrid | scientes: how? |
| 16:30.55 | scientes | are you using etch or lenny? |
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| 16:31.08 | AndreasMadrid | etch |
| 16:31.21 | scientes | try etch and a half |
| 16:31.48 | AndreasMadrid | scientes you mean upgrade to lenny? |
| 16:31.53 | scientes | no |
| 16:31.57 | scientes | etch and a half in etch |
| 16:32.23 | enouf | newsense: something like this; growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/hdc=image.iso (from the man page) |
| 16:32.27 | stew | AndreasMadrid: /msg dpkg etchnhalf |
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| 16:32.33 | stew | (lenny installer that installs etch) |
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| 16:33.00 | enouf | newsense: could also add things like -dry-run to test prior |
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| 16:33.33 | AndreasMadrid | stew thx |
| 16:33.44 | scientes | AndreasMadrid, linux-image-2.6-686-etchnhalf |
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| 16:33.55 | Rockj | anyone here uses rkhunter on debian lenny? I get a warning on unhide and unhide-linux26 that got installed with rkhunter. |
| 16:34.00 | enouf | newsense: then ... you have all the -use-the-force-luke= options ;-) like '...=wrvfy' which means; write verify (verify the burn) |
| 16:34.38 | AndreasMadrid | ok, i will try that |
| 16:34.44 | AndreasMadrid | thank you |
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| 16:34.47 | PriitM_ | Rockj, I am getting the same issues with several debian installs and it seems harmless |
| 16:35.03 | newsense | enouf: thanks, i was going to give up and put the image on a thumb drive and bring it to a friend to burn, kind of in a hurry and did'nt have time to read another manual as ive read wodims this morning already, ill try that line from growisofs' man |
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| 16:35.50 | Rockj | PriitM_: hum, is package maintainer noticed about it? or is there a way to update rkhunter's db manually? I would like to add it to cron, but that doesn't help if im receiving emails each day just about the same warning |
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| 16:36.27 | Rockj | PriitM_: I also get a warning about inet.d services running. Checked config file and there was nothing much about it. |
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| 16:37.31 | Rockj | I also tried to search for documentation about 'aide' , which had some flawless misses on documentation. hum |
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| 16:37.53 | Rockj | nothing usefull in /usr/share/doc/aide atleast about configuration parameters. |
| 16:38.10 | newsense | enouf: cool that growisofs line worked and all it did was the same dd command i was doing with obs=32k seek=0' added |
| 16:38.25 | PriitM_ | Rockj, I've gotten several inet.d services as well, they appeared to be false alarm. I can't comment about configuration as it didn't bother me. |
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| 16:38.48 | hmepas | anynoe could help me if that's possible to run 32bit binaries on x86_64 system? Mine is just not working |
| 16:38.52 | hmepas | [root@cross5 proc]# /home/hmepas/echo |
| 16:38.53 | hmepas | -bash: /home/hmepas/echo: No such file or directory |
| 16:38.53 | hmepas | [root@cross5 proc]# ll /home/hmepas/echo |
| 16:38.53 | hmepas | -rwxr-xr-x 1 hmepas hmepas 13896 Feb 11 19:08 /home/hmepas/echo |
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| 16:39.02 | Rockj | PriitM_: you don't run em as a cronjob then? or you receive an email each and every day? :S |
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| 16:39.33 | PriitM_ | Rockj, I don't run it as cronjob |
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| 16:39.58 | Rockj | hmepas: advanced answer is yes. You can make a chroot and debootstrap an install into that chroot. |
| 16:40.02 | PriitM_ | I got only 1 system and no sensitive data |
| 16:41.00 | enouf | newsense: well ... yes .. and no, but yeah - it just works[tm] ;-) |
| 16:41.03 | hmepas | Rockj: thanks |
| 16:41.03 | icebrain | how can I resize my root partition without a cd,floppy or usb drive? |
| 16:41.15 | Rockj | hmepas: since you need to chroot into that directory (I suggest looking for the package schroot or what it is again) so when your running 32bit applications, you load correct libraries. |
| 16:41.36 | enouf | icebrain: you're ready for online resizing? |
| 16:41.57 | Rockj | PriitM_: ah ok. I'll try to email maintainer then and ask about it then. |
| 16:41.58 | icebrain | enouf: doesn't it require LVM? |
| 16:42.02 | hmepas | Rockj: kinda strange... while windows64 as well as freebsd is running 32bit just fine.. and such pain ass for linux... |
| 16:42.08 | newsense | enouf: thanks man, got done right on time to, gotta run now |
| 16:42.10 | enouf | icebrain: just because you have no cd, floppy, usb doesn't mean you don't have backups, does it? |
| 16:42.20 | Rockj | hmepas: oh, it also depends on what you need to install |
| 16:42.24 | enouf | newsense: np |
| 16:42.34 | Rockj | hmepas: there is a package you can install which install standard lib32 packages for a 64bit install |
| 16:42.34 | icebrain | enouf: oh, I can backup through network |
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| 16:42.39 | Rockj | hmepas: 2 second, let me search |
| 16:42.40 | enouf | right |
| 16:43.01 | enouf | icebrain: no, no lvm required, but ... man resize2fs |
| 16:43.16 | enouf | hope you're using ext2/3 ;-) |
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| 16:44.48 | Rockj | hmepas: aptitude install ia32-libs |
| 16:45.29 | Rockj | hmepas: that might help you with most common 32bit applications, but if you need special cases with special libraries, it's often easier to just make an 32bit envoirement. (I had to do that for a special type of database drivers crap) |
| 16:46.04 | Rockj | hmepas: you can use ldd <filename_to_execute> to check what libs are missing btw. nice and easy tool. |
| 16:46.13 | Rockj | hmepas: probably check out -> http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/534 |
| 16:46.15 | stew | also ia32-libs-gtk (which is poorly named, it contains lots of non-gimp stuff too, like alsa, qt) |
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| 16:46.51 | hmepas | RoÓkj: if that's depend on kernel somehow? |
| 16:49.09 | Rockj | hmepas: no, nothing you have to worry about. It's more about how the programs are linked together to make an executable. if it's made for running under 32bit or 64bit I think. Im no expert here.. someone else could probably explain it much better then I do ;-) |
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| 16:50.24 | hmepas | Rockj: thanks for you help =) |
| 16:50.52 | osFrenchDude | does anyone knows a good trial version of some professional eda software |
| 16:50.54 | osFrenchDude | please |
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| 16:51.44 | enouf | nobody knows what eda is, and trials involve lawyers - ugh |
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| 16:54.03 | osFrenchDude | enouf: well, I was more or less thinking of some trial in the sense limitated. eda stands for Electronic Design Automation |
| 16:54.25 | enouf | wow - how vague .. heh |
| 16:54.33 | enouf | !shoot Acronym |
| 16:54.33 | dpkg | blows Acronym away with a wand of fireballs |
| 16:55.18 | elyezer | is there a custom debian theme for gnome? |
| 16:56.22 | osFrenchDude | enouf: EDA is a quite famous one |
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| 16:56.57 | enouf | osFrenchDude: i've heard of and used Autodesk/AutoCAD . ..never heard of EAD though myself |
| 16:57.19 | enouf | er eda |
| 16:57.25 | osFrenchDude | enouf: maybe |
| 16:57.48 | enouf | osFrenchDude: do you need 3D support? |
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| 16:59.38 | osFrenchDude | enouf: hhmm, don't give a S%#$ about 3D support ;) |
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| 17:01.52 | enouf | :-( HP-UX on PA-RISC Support to be Discontinued in 2011 Pro/ENGINEER Future Platform Support Summary Pro/ENGINEER Linux Support Discontinued Pro/INTRALINK 3.x Future Platform Support Summary * SUN Solaris on SPARC Support to be Discontinued in 2011 |
| 17:02.04 | enouf | uh .. |
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| 17:04.32 | osFrenchDude | enouf: I'm talking about some Electrical stuff....no mechanical.. O_O |
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| 17:05.26 | stew | osFrenchDude: perhaps ask ##electronics |
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| 17:06.34 | abrotman | gEDA maybe ? |
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| 17:06.45 | abrotman | !info geda etch |
| 17:06.48 | enouf | qEDA? :-p |
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| 17:07.00 | abrotman | gnu eda .. not gnome eda .. i don't think |
| 17:07.05 | osFrenchDude | abrotman: I was hinking about some "professional" apps, and i mean used in industry |
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| 17:07.08 | dpkg | geda: (GNU EDA -- Electronics design software), section electronics, is optional. Version: 20060123-1 (etch), Packaged size: 92 kB, Installed size: 388 kB |
| 17:07.09 | osFrenchDude | like Cadence |
| 17:07.16 | [aaron] | anyone here familiar with rdiff-backup? |
| 17:07.29 | abrotman | i have no idea what "professional" means .. but if it's pay-for software, you're in the wrong channel |
| 17:07.39 | abrotman | and geda is used in the industry |
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| 17:07.55 | enouf | http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html#9 ? |
| 17:08.18 | dkr | !tell [aaron] about anyone |
| 17:08.38 | [aaron] | ok. |
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| 17:08.53 | enouf | 1) Geda. 2) Oregano. 3) Xcircuit. 4) Gnome Assisted Electronics. 5) SPICE. 6) SPICE OPUS. 7) NG-SPICE. |
| 17:09.07 | abrotman | gEDA .. |
| 17:09.20 | abrotman | IIRC anyways .. Ales would be mad at me for not remembering |
| 17:09.22 | enouf | All Professionallé :-P |
| 17:09.24 | dkr | oregano is a spice. I get it! ;) |
| 17:10.04 | [aaron] | I'm transferring hundreds of gigs of files accross a 10mbit line for a customer using rsync right now. I want to see if rdiff-backup will increase the speed. In my little test lab, rdiff-backup has a huge storage overhead. One of the images i have to keep updated is 405gb, and rdiff wants to save a compressed copy of that file on the destination, i dont have space for it to do that. |
| 17:12.06 | dkr | [aaron]: rdiff-backup works by basically rsync'ng all files once, then each day it only transfers the parts that have changed and keeps a reverse diff for each time it is run(usually daily). so yeah, rdiff-backup is going to use more space on the destination than rsync because of that ability to go back as many days as you wish to restore data from that point in time |
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| 17:12.34 | [aaron] | thats what i thought was going on. |
| 17:12.51 | [aaron] | it aslo takes an extremely long time for it to gzip (or whatever it uses) a 405gb file :) |
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| 17:13.01 | dkr | [aaron]: the speed of transfer is a little bit better because rsync re-transfer each day the entire file if a part is changed. rdiff-backup only transfers the part of the file that has changed |
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| 17:13.19 | osFrenchDude | abrotman: yeah, but I'm not the one choosing standards for industry |
| 17:13.30 | [aaron] | dkr, are you familiar with "synthetic" backups? |
| 17:13.34 | abrotman | osFrenchDude: what makes you think that geda doesn't use standards? |
| 17:13.35 | dkr | nope |
| 17:13.36 | frostschutz | [aaron]: if the cpus on both sides are up to it you can do rsync over a gzip compressed stream |
| 17:13.51 | abrotman | osFrenchDude: and if you want non-free software, go somewhere else .. we can only tell you what is in debian |
| 17:14.09 | osFrenchDude | abrotman: nothing, I was just hoping someone heard about some cadence trial version |
| 17:14.18 | abrotman | WRONG PLACE |
| 17:14.34 | osFrenchDude | abrotman: Geez, don't be so agressive man... |
| 17:14.47 | dkr | is that a subtle way of saying "cracked"? |
| 17:14.50 | [aaron] | The files I am transferring are vmware backups, and they are synthetic, meaning they are reverse differential. so the latest differential backup is tied into the largest, and first full backup. so each day the full backup file (huge) is changed, and one incremental is created. |
| 17:14.51 | abrotman | osFrenchDude: don't be obtuse .. we've told you to ask elsewhere |
| 17:14.53 | [aaron] | does that make sense? |
| 17:15.35 | stew | osFrenchDude: it would be safe to assume that if cadence had a trial version, they'd put it on cadence.com, not here |
| 17:15.40 | osFrenchDude | abrotman: you did..no one else... |
| 17:15.49 | abrotman | osFrenchDude: stew did also |
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| 17:16.12 | [aaron] | so i have this 405gb file, among others, that changes some each day. rsync does a pretty good job of only sending delta changes. rsync usually reports transferring data near 70mbit over my 10mbit line on subsequent days that the file is transferred. |
| 17:16.37 | osFrenchDude | abrotman: ok, ok I get it...I won't ask any other question, I beg your pardon...will you please excuse me...please |
| 17:17.18 | abrotman | you can ask other questions .. but we told you where to go to ask questions on that topic |
| 17:18.06 | dkr | [aaron]: yeah, makes sense. I'd certainly try it out and see if the rdiff method of transferring part of the changed file as a patch will work with the vmware backup image - it might not if the full backup is already re-compressed daily (hence changing all bits) |
| 17:18.46 | dkr | oh, I forgot that rsync can already only transfer delta changes of a single file as a patch like rdiff |
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| 17:20.16 | [aaron] | just so im clear, rdiff-backup is not using sybolic links or anything, so if i have a 400gb file, i'm going to need 800gb of space for it on the destination system |
| 17:21.09 | dkr | [aaron]: no, you'd need 400GB of space plus space for the amount of changes each day (and of course you control how many days back you want to save) |
| 17:21.51 | [aaron] | hmm. ok. i'm looking at my test. which is dir01 and dir02 on a local machine. dir01 has a 500mb iso image in it |
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| 17:22.41 | [aaron] | errr, 408mb to be exact. i run "rdiff dir01 dir02" and it copies the file to dir02, and creates a folder 'rdiff-backup-data' with 369mb of data in it. |
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| 17:24.41 | dkr | this was the first time you ran it, or an incremental run? (I could simply be wrong, of course :) rdiff-backup -l dir02 shows just the one copy? |
| 17:24.57 | [aaron] | i emptied the dirs and started over for sanitys sake |
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| 17:25.53 | [aaron] | 01 has a 153mb zip file in it. i run rdiff for the first time and it copies to dir02. the rdifff-bakup-data folder is basically empty. no incremental copies in there yet. |
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| 17:26.33 | zahna | when i'm seeing that packages are being kept back, what conditions would cause that? |
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| 17:26.47 | stew | zahna: /msg dpkg kept back |
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| 17:27.10 | zahna | stew: really? it's that easy? |
| 17:27.23 | nicholas__ | when I use udev to detect a device and then run a script |
| 17:27.24 | dkr | [aaron]: you must be doign somethign different, my test confirmed what I said. |
| 17:27.29 | nicholas__ | it runs the script several times at once |
| 17:27.40 | nicholas__ | is there a way to udev run it only just once ? |
| 17:27.43 | [aaron] | dkr, so next i add a small png file into the source zip. |
| 17:27.43 | stew | zahna: that's a command to type into irc to get the bot here named dpkg to give you the information you want |
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| 17:28.00 | zahna | oh, i didn't know there was a bot named dpkg here! :) |
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| 17:28.01 | dkr | [aaron]: wait a minute. you are running rdiff-backup, or "rdiff"? |
| 17:28.16 | [aaron] | rdiff-backup! |
| 17:28.23 | zahna | i just thought you were msg'ing me and made a typo :) |
| 17:28.28 | [aaron] | i feel like were about to have a breakthrough |
| 17:28.32 | [aaron] | :) |
| 17:29.11 | dtcrshr | i got an error with iptables, no target/match when adding a rule |
| 17:29.18 | dtcrshr | is there a module in debian missing/; |
| 17:29.53 | dkr | dtcrshr: you also need to load iptables modules itself to enable certain features |
| 17:30.02 | [aaron] | dkr, what are you using? |
| 17:30.04 | stew | dtcrshr: what command gave you the error? |
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| 17:30.14 | stew | iptables modules should be autoloaded for you |
| 17:30.31 | nicholas__ | noone know why udev run the script more than once ? |
| 17:30.35 | dtcrshr | iptables -I postrouting -p tcp -s 200.145.121.0/24 -j masquerade |
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| 17:31.04 | stew | dtcrshr: there is no postrouting chain in the filter table and i'm guessing there isn't a masquerade chain either |
| 17:31.15 | dkr | [aaron]: I did mkdir src dst; mv 150MB file to src. rdiff-backup src dst and du showed src and dst both 150MB |
| 17:31.25 | stew | dtcrshr: you mostlikely want the POSTROUTING chain in the nat table not the postrouting chain in the filter table |
| 17:31.31 | [aaron] | dkr, i'm going to play with it on a larger scale. |
| 17:31.36 | [aaron] | i appreciate your help. |
| 17:31.42 | dkr | [aaron]: no problem |
| 17:31.53 | stew | dtcrshr: (and you want MASQUERADE not masquerade) |
| 17:32.19 | dtcrshr | yeah, i just typed through |
| 17:32.23 | zahna | would upgrading from etch to testing require a dist-upgrade? |
| 17:32.43 | dkr | dtcrshr: and you dno't have to worry about what I said, -p tcp automagically loads the -m tcp module also :) |
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| 17:32.48 | dtcrshr | MASQUERADE, POSTROUTING |
| 17:33.14 | dtcrshr | im actually missing something pretty simple. i just need this debian box to become a gateway |
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| 17:33.25 | dtcrshr | iv set ip_foward to 1 |
| 17:33.28 | stew | dtcrshr: you are trying to alter the wrong table |
| 17:33.30 | dkr | did yu enable ip forwarding? |
| 17:33.37 | [aaron] | dkr, i guess i my destination machine is a seperate box, things get a little more trickhy |
| 17:33.44 | dtcrshr | hm |
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| 17:33.52 | stew | dtcrshr: those chains are in the nat table, not the filter table (which is the default table) |
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| 17:34.10 | dkr | [aaron]: for my real backups I use: rdiff-backup --backup-mode --terminal-verbosity 1 --ssh-no-compression --exclude-other-filesystems --exclude-device-files --exclude-fifos --exclude-sockets |
| 17:34.11 | dtcrshr | hm.. is that altered trhogh iptables command, or other ? |
| 17:34.32 | dkr | ah, stew got it |
| 17:34.38 | stew | dtcrshr: yes, through the iptables command |
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| 17:34.55 | kelt | hi, I'm having trouble with an Intel card 1000Mb (it's in a Dell machine) ... when I try to bring up eth0 it says no device available |
| 17:35.01 | dtcrshr | i had an router-distro, and the internet did fine, but some services i needed like pptp client didnt work. so i changed to debian, but its quite hard to manage to it share the internet.. |
| 17:35.15 | dtcrshr | ill post my iptables-save for u to take a look, would you mind? |
| 17:35.20 | stew | dtcrshr: "aptitude install ipmasq" ; done |
| 17:36.01 | [aaron] | dky, can it show progress? rsysnc rocks becuase it will show me the speed/time remaining |
| 17:36.21 | dtcrshr | iv already installed it. |
| 17:36.29 | stew | kelt: perhaps it was renamed to eth1? does eth0 or eth1 or eth2 or whatever show up in "ifconfig -a"? (/msg dpkg z25) |
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| 17:36.52 | dtcrshr | http://pastebin.com/d6e216387 |
| 17:37.02 | kelt | no stew only the loopback (localhost) shows up in ifconfig |
| 17:37.26 | kelt | stew: in my /etc/network/interfaces I put dhcp for eth0 (obviously since there is "no device") it doesn't do any good |
| 17:37.31 | dkr | [aaron]: not sure, don't think so. I don't run it manually, I run from a script from cron. |
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| 17:37.41 | faffi|afk | kelt: what model dell is it |
| 17:37.42 | stew | kelt: then you need to load a driver. probably e1000 or e1000e. if you need e1000e, you might need a newer kernel |
| 17:37.53 | kelt | stew: I tried e1000 |
| 17:37.58 | faffi|afk | kelt: what model dell computer |
| 17:38.01 | stew | kelt: what does "uname -r" say? |
| 17:38.19 | stew | kelt: and what version of debian? |
| 17:38.35 | kelt | faffi|afk: well... I don't remember, I'm on a different computer... I think maybe 1850 maybe? |
| 17:38.41 | faffi|afk | i just finished driver woes on on my brand new dell, the included e1000 and e1000e drivers wouldnt work, i had to grab the e1000e from sourceforge ande compile |
| 17:38.55 | kelt | faffi|afk: oh yeah? |
| 17:38.55 | faffi|afk | and it worked after that |
| 17:38.57 | faffi|afk | yes :) |
| 17:39.08 | kelt | faffi|afk: these are new dell machines... well semi new I don't know the model though |
| 17:39.15 | stew | the model of dell isn't important, the model of e1000 is, which "lspci -n" would tell you |
| 17:39.15 | faffi|afk | i was without internet for 2 weeks, it drove me insane, i compiled the module on my other computer with the same kernel and copied it over via thumb drive |
| 17:39.26 | faffi|afk | stew: just checking to see how new the computer is :) |
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| 17:39.45 | faffi|afk | but yeah, lspci would give much more relevant information lol |
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| 17:40.26 | kelt | stew: 2.6.18 |
| 17:40.51 | stew | yeah, that one wouldn't have e1000e, the 2.6.24 kernel would, but still might be too old |
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| 17:41.07 | faffi|afk | indeed |
| 17:41.11 | kelt | ah... hmm |
| 17:41.25 | stew | kelt: can you give us the vendorid:deviceid for that card? (lspci -n would tell you, it would be something like 8086:10de) |
| 17:41.26 | kelt | so I need to upgrade? I didn't think etch was up to 2.6.24 |
| 17:41.35 | faffi|afk | kelt: or compile the driver? |
| 17:41.36 | stew | kelt: yes, etch is up to 2.6.24 |
| 17:41.55 | kelt | stew: I will have to go to the machine ... it is not here... since I had to come here to get on the internet :) |
| 17:42.05 | faffi|afk | haha |
| 17:42.19 | kelt | thanks guys, I will go do a lspci -n and I think I might upgrade to .24 and see if that helps |
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| 17:42.55 | stew | kelt: "lspci -n | grep 0200" should be what I'm after |
| 17:43.14 | kelt | bbl... |
| 17:43.30 | stew | and then faffi|afk is going to give us his to compare... |
| 17:43.33 | kelt | I'll try and get the model of the network card while I'm at it :) |
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| 17:43.50 | stew | kelt: the second half of that is the model |
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| 17:44.19 | faffi|afk | stew: gimme a sec, i need to ssh into the box |
| 17:44.26 | Orbixx | Any idea when Debian will release a new BIND package? |
| 17:44.35 | Orbixx | One that isn't vulnerable to MITM attacks? |
| 17:44.50 | stew | Orbixx: which CVE id are you talking about? |
| 17:45.16 | Orbixx | CVE-2008-1447 |
| 17:45.23 | faffi|afk | stew: myth@floyd:~$ lspci -n | grep 0200 |
| 17:45.23 | faffi|afk | 00:19.0 0200: 8086:10de (rev 02) |
| 17:45.26 | themill | !tracker of doom |
| 17:45.26 | dpkg | i guess tracker of doom is a vulnerability database maintained by the debian security team, viewable at http://security-tracker.debian.net or read http://www.enyo.de/fw/software/debsecan/, or http://www.debian.org/security/crossreferences |
| 17:46.04 | stew | Orbixx: already fixed: http://security-tracker.debian.net/tracker/CVE-2008-1447 |
| 17:46.17 | themill | Orbixx: ^^ according to the tracker of doom, all debian bind packages are already fixed |
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| 17:46.40 | Orbixx | checks his repos |
| 17:46.56 | stew | Orbixx: http://www.debian.org/security/2008/dsa-1603 |
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| 17:47.43 | stew | its always great when someone actually has an answer to "which CVE id" :) |
| 17:47.53 | themill | :) |
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| 17:48.18 | themill | Orbixx: the debian changelog shows that being fixed back in July 2008. |
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| 17:51.58 | Orbixx | themill: stew: |
| 17:51.59 | Orbixx | node1:~# named -v |
| 17:51.59 | Orbixx | BIND 9.3.4-P1.1 |
| 17:52.11 | Orbixx | Apt isn't showing any available updates. |
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| 17:52.53 | stew | Orbixx: show us the output of "apt-cache policy bind9" ; use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 17:53.13 | Orbixx | http://pastebin.com/d36bcf130 |
| 17:53.27 | stew | Orbixx: right, you have the fixed version |
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| 17:53.41 | Orbixx | Odd. |
| 17:53.53 | stew | http://www.debian.org/security/2008/dsa-1603 it was fixed in 1:9.3.4-2etch3 and you have 1:9.3.4-2etch4 |
| 17:54.14 | themill | dpkg: tell Orbixx about security backports |
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| 17:54.28 | Orbixx | Do you think any particular BIND configuration could allow such an attack on the fixed version? |
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| 17:55.47 | stew | Orbixx: i don't not think so |
| 17:56.18 | Orbixx | Strange, must be a false positive then. |
| 17:56.31 | stew | Orbixx: what is giving you a false positive? |
| 17:56.41 | Orbixx | McAfee Secure. |
| 17:56.45 | stew | yeah, they suck |
| 17:56.48 | themill | Orbixx: many security scanning tools just look at the version number and aren't clever enough to understand backported security fixes |
| 17:57.03 | Orbixx | I don't really care, I just need them to tell my CC merchant that I'm PCI DSS compliant. |
| 17:57.03 | stew | i had to recompile openssl for them just to have it report some newer upstream version |
| 17:57.09 | stew | Orbixx: best of look |
| 17:57.11 | stew | luck* |
| 17:57.13 | Orbixx | Ugh. |
| 17:57.16 | Orbixx | Stupid regulatory bodies. |
| 17:57.28 | stew | Orbixx: i escalated way up the chain with them, and got nowhere |
| 17:57.43 | Orbixx | I can keep my customer's credit card details secure and I don't need any PCI group to tell me how to do my bloody job. |
| 17:57.50 | Orbixx | The trouble is they have all merchants under their thumb. |
| 17:57.58 | jelly | stew: but you must have 0.9.8xyz!!!! |
| 17:58.03 | stew | right |
| 17:58.16 | stew | there is no version of redhat/debian which can possibly be okayed by them |
| 17:58.27 | Orbixx | lol |
| 17:58.39 | themill | of course you can just put all the details on a CD and leave it on the train just like uk.gov does all the time |
| 17:58.41 | jelly | obscure distros. |
| 17:58.58 | stew | i sent them tons and tons and tons of documentation showing how debian and redhat have fixed the openssl problem and how openssl fixed these problems upstream in 0.9.7 and ended up just faking the version strings |
| 17:59.25 | themill | that's pathetic |
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| 17:59.49 | jelly | that's bureaucracy. Deal! |
| 18:00.06 | Orbixx | Thanks for your help. |
| 18:00.07 | stew | we recompiled 0.9.7a on redhat to report 0.9.8g got the certification, then swithced it back to the not known to be vulnerable from rhel4 |
| 18:00.11 | Orbixx | Appreciate it. |
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| 18:00.14 | cire | what system id is apropriate for an usb stick? b (W95 FAT32) or c (W95 Fat32 LBA)? |
| 18:00.34 | stew | cire: linux doesn't care which you use at all |
| 18:01.00 | cire | this is a friend's stick, he will interchange data between windows and linux |
| 18:02.00 | DevilishFreak | Hi |
| 18:02.03 | jelly | would options { version "9.5.w00t-w00t-to-PCI" } in named.conf work? |
| 18:02.15 | dtcrshr | hard one... i thought would be easyer to just share the internet from debian to the network... anyone got a clue? |
| 18:02.40 | dtcrshr | dos i have to install some especial package to make the debian box to a gateway? |
| 18:02.53 | dtcrshr | i can ping the machines on my inner network, but the other way dont |
| 18:03.15 | jelly | dtcrshr: and they have gateway set to your .6 ? |
| 18:03.23 | dtcrshr | yeah |
| 18:03.33 | dtcrshr | i just got a machine here near me so i can test |
| 18:03.44 | dtcrshr | iv putted the dns mannually too, but nothing yet |
| 18:03.44 | jelly | is useless and asks only dumb, obvious questions |
| 18:04.11 | dtcrshr | actually, i cant test if i dont set the gtw to the debian machine, otherwise they will surf through the firewall. |
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| 18:04.32 | dtcrshr | iv looked for a simple straighforwad like |
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| 18:04.56 | dtcrshr | iptables -I postrouting -p tcp -s 200.145.121.0/24 -j masquerade |
| 18:05.02 | dtcrshr | respecting the case sentive rule |
| 18:05.10 | dtcrshr | but i got a new error, maybe im missing some package |
| 18:05.20 | jelly | dtcrshr: can you do a tcpdump on eth2 and see if anything goes out when an internal machine tries to access the internets? |
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| 18:05.31 | dtcrshr | "no chain/target/match by that name |
| 18:05.45 | jelly | dtcrshr: POSTROUTING and MASQUERADE should be uppercase |
| 18:06.01 | dtcrshr | yeah |
| 18:06.13 | dtcrshr | <dtcrshr> respecting the case sentive rule |
| 18:06.29 | dtcrshr | my capslock isnt working fine, so i just typed |
| 18:06.37 | jelly | ah. |
| 18:06.39 | dtcrshr | but there i used the shift finger |
| 18:06.40 | dtcrshr | aheuahue |
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| 18:06.47 | dtcrshr | well, ill do the tcpdump, wait a sec |
| 18:06.53 | stew | dtcrshr: i've told you the problems with that command already |
| 18:06.54 | dtcrshr | my boss gonna kill me |
| 18:07.06 | stew | dtcrshr: there is no postrouting or POSTROUTING chains in the filter table |
| 18:07.14 | dtcrshr | oh yes |
| 18:07.16 | dtcrshr | sorry then |
| 18:07.18 | jelly | oh, and -t nat too. |
| 18:07.21 | jelly | righty |
| 18:07.27 | abrotman | holy enter batman |
| 18:08.16 | DevilishFreak | If i have an IRQ conflict, can it be a kernel problem or a BIOS problem? |
| 18:08.36 | jelly | DevilishFreak: yes. |
| 18:08.42 | stew | if you are having trouble with ping, i do see "-A EXT_ICMP_CHAIN -p icmp -m icmp --icmp-type 8 -j DROP" |
| 18:08.48 | stew | oh but i don't know if that chain is actually used |
| 18:08.53 | dtcrshr | http://pastebin.com/d22cadc9 |
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| 18:09.55 | stew | dtcrshr: can you show us the output of "ip a ; ip r"? |
| 18:10.24 | DevilishFreak | My wi-fi PCI card only works when i take out the nvidia card |
| 18:10.25 | jelly | dtcrshr: ew.. make that "tcpdump -n -i eth2 not port 6667 and not port 22" |
| 18:11.03 | dtcrshr | http://pastebin.com/d1b2c62eb |
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| 18:11.35 | jelly | your ppp0 disappeared in the meantime! |
| 18:12.21 | dtcrshr | i didnt dialed it yet |
| 18:12.40 | dtcrshr | http://pastebin.com/d7abb6bb5 |
| 18:12.59 | stew | ppp0? |
| 18:13.12 | dtcrshr | http://pastebin.com/d212dcd2 |
| 18:13.14 | stew | i've lost sight. what are we actually trying to fix? |
| 18:13.18 | dtcrshr | now iv done that, and ip a and ip r again |
| 18:13.38 | jelly | stew: his NAT setup. Ignore that ppp thing. |
| 18:13.42 | dtcrshr | stew, i got an internet connection on my debian machine. through that, iv setted the pptp client to dial my private vpn |
| 18:13.49 | dtcrshr | so i can share the tunnel to the inner network |
| 18:14.36 | dtcrshr | but i can navigate here on the debian machine, access the webservices on the vpn after i dial the ppp, but i cant access nothing by the stations, that are using this debian machine as gtw |
| 18:14.54 | dtcrshr | i just need to simple share the debian machine access, to my network, plain and simple |
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| 18:15.43 | dtcrshr | i got two eth with internet access, but im leaving that to other time, im barely geting to share one internet connection, by gods sake two will kill me |
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| 18:16.39 | vbgunz | this is burning me up. I cannot disable notifications of new windows at all. how do you disable notifications for new windows? |
| 18:16.58 | jelly | dtcrshr: could you be so kind to do a "ping 74.125.45.100" or something similar on a client machine, and _then_ see if that traffic appears on eth2? |
| 18:16.59 | kris | you mean vista? |
| 18:17.13 | stew | does he even allow ping? |
| 18:17.32 | jelly | I've lost the iptables-save tab so I can't tell ;-) |
| 18:17.50 | dtcrshr | when i left the tcpdump up, if pinged an outside address, an ouside ip, and did a tracert one |
| 18:18.53 | jelly | dtcrshr: would you care to clear all the crap from filter table, get the NAT working, and then possibly put it back? |
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| 18:19.37 | jelly | dtcrshr: I see no ICMP on eth2. |
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| 18:23.54 | dtcrshr | http://pastebin.com/d518292bf |
| 18:23.55 | dtcrshr | whoa! |
| 18:24.03 | dtcrshr | i dont know what happened. now it worked. |
| 18:24.24 | dtcrshr | how do i save all this? iptable and so on |
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| 18:24.36 | dtcrshr | im gonna cry |
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| 18:24.53 | faffi|afk | dtcrshr: iptables-save > outputfile |
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| 18:26.48 | faffi|afk | dtcrshr: 'iptables-restore < outputfile' will reload the rules |
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| 18:27.42 | troythetechguy | Has anyone used jnettop before? |
| 18:28.09 | jelly | dtcrshr: you'll need to add a MASQUERADE rule for ppp0 as well if you want the clients to be able to access that network |
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| 18:28.30 | dtcrshr | thanks faffi |
| 18:28.42 | dtcrshr | yeah jelly, i tryed but the clients cant access the tunnel. |
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| 18:28.49 | dtcrshr | lemme se.. |
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| 18:29.16 | dtcrshr | iptables -I POSTROUTING -p tcp -i ppp0 -j MASQUERADE ? |
| 18:30.08 | jelly | why tcp only? |
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| 18:36.40 | jelly | coldboot: fakeroot! |
| 18:36.49 | coldboot | jelly: Ah yes, of course |
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| 18:42.43 | dtcrshr | hm... the vpn didnt worked yet |
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| 18:43.06 | dtcrshr | but the net seems ok. ill do another tcpdump |
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| 18:45.27 | doug__ | I'm trying to configure a termial that i can connect remotely to, and use it to make changes to routers, switches etc... the box i'm using is a soekris4526 it has an AMD 486 proc. and about 9mb free space.. i need some sort of web browser any ideas? |
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| 18:48.59 | dtcrshr | jelly, how do i set tcpdump to log to a file, > file.txt didnt worked... |
| 18:49.08 | dtcrshr | i gotta let it capturing and test some other machines |
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| 18:49.42 | jelly | dtcrshr: tcpdump -wfile.pcap does the capture AFAIR |
| 18:49.43 | faffi | dtcrshr: -w flag |
| 18:49.50 | faffi | mmm jelly beat me |
| 18:49.51 | faffi | :P |
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| 18:49.58 | dtcrshr | aheuahue |
| 18:50.02 | jelly | faffi: do it yourself, freak. |
| 18:50.06 | dtcrshr | i love u both, dont get mad |
| 18:50.08 | faffi | hahahaha |
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| 18:50.41 | faffi | contintues studying for internet security exam... |
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| 18:58.32 | dtcrshr | well, im on the internet. but im not on the vpn. |
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| 18:58.42 | dtcrshr | gotta mess more arround to pass the tunnel though |
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| 19:08.16 | dtcrshr | well, kinda tricky |
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| 19:09.07 | garu | hi everyone |
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| 19:09.34 | dtcrshr | all my external services that need to use the vpn, are in my own network, 200.145.x.x . can i make a rule, that would tell any package asking a connection, in any port for a service thats within that range, to go through the vpn (ppp0) ? |
| 19:09.40 | dtcrshr | jelly, stew ? |
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| 19:10.08 | zu22 | are all the factoids for the channel bot 'dpkg' available online? |
| 19:10.17 | tarzeau | i like my debian workstation at work: http://www.phys.ethz.ch/~sengun/workplace/ |
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| 19:10.35 | zu22 | tarzeau: hey man |
| 19:10.43 | tarzeau | hi zu22 |
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| 19:10.58 | zu22 | tarzeau: my friend runs a mailing list for security professionals based in switzerland would you like to join? |
| 19:11.12 | tarzeau | zu22: what does it cost? who is that friend? |
| 19:11.24 | tarzeau | zu22: why do you think i qualify? |
| 19:11.29 | zu22 | tarzeau: it is free, he is John Morgan Salomon |
| 19:11.40 | tarzeau | zu22: sure, put me in: gurkan@phys.ethz.ch |
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| 19:11.57 | zu22 | tarzeau: they meet sometimes in person or you can just chat on the list |
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| 19:12.05 | zu22 | tarzeau: cool i'll tell him to add you |
| 19:12.08 | faffi | tarzeau: show off :P |
| 19:12.27 | muhoo | what would you recommend charging per hour for linux sysadmin work in the USA? |
| 19:12.38 | magyar_ | hmm, I am looking in the manpage for maildropex in Lenny and it looks like the maintainer forgot to include the actual samples |
| 19:13.01 | simonrvn | file a bug. we're not the BTS here. |
| 19:13.03 | jelly | dtcrshr: add a route for 200.145.0.0/16 via dev ppp0 |
| 19:13.08 | tarzeau | muhoo: some will be happy wit$ 50, other will l want 150. |
| 19:13.28 | tarzeau | muhoo: debian.org has a consultants page with prices by regions |
| 19:13.33 | muhoo | tarzeau: thanks |
| 19:13.34 | jelly | dtcrshr: er, sorry. |
| 19:13.44 | jelly | dtcrshr: disregard htat |
| 19:13.44 | garu | is it good or bad to have openldap server,kerberos server,openafs server and maybe samba server also all setup in 1 single debian etch machine? |
| 19:14.26 | simonrvn | garu: make sure only your network can access it, and lock the fucker down. |
| 19:15.44 | muhoo | tarzeau: very helpful. it depends on region, too, it seems. where i am, it is expensive (cost of living is high). that's good to know. |
| 19:15.56 | garu | simonrvn just to implement a directory service on an heterogeneous network...it's all been done in virtual machines on a pc with 4GB of ram with core 2 duo at 2.10GHZ! |
| 19:16.02 | simonrvn | esp. the kerberos KDC, you gotta make that really secure. |
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| 19:16.16 | simonrvn | oh and the ldap too |
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| 19:17.52 | garu | simonrvn but the thing is that, on the howto's, they always recommend 2 servers on each (master and slave), like 2 openldap, 2 kerberos, even 2 ntp and 2 dns...and so on...is all that really necessary? |
| 19:18.37 | simonrvn | that's an optimal set up. better yet is to have a vpn linking them, with each one on 2 different networks. |
| 19:18.59 | dtcrshr | yeah |
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| 19:19.07 | simonrvn | it's for backup. in case one goes down, the other is there to run stuff. |
| 19:19.08 | dtcrshr | i forgot the route |
| 19:19.17 | dtcrshr | im so into the iptables file, that im gonna nuts |
| 19:19.25 | dtcrshr | have 40min to finish this |
| 19:19.26 | dtcrshr | ahueahue |
| 19:19.37 | dtcrshr | today ill have an whisky botthe for sure, if its done |
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| 19:19.48 | zu22 | simonrvn: wow sounds expensive |
| 19:20.06 | zu22 | dtcrshr: lol |
| 19:20.21 | simonrvn | of course, how you set it up is your business ;). |
| 19:20.52 | zu22 | ah yes |
| 19:20.55 | simonrvn | i have backups too, you can do it on the cheap. |
| 19:21.26 | zu22 | openafs + kerberos was never broken at all the years i was at CMU |
| 19:21.28 | simonrvn | just gotts know what you're doing (not saying i do, i just have a clue ;p) |
| 19:21.34 | zu22 | at least that's what the guy in charge of security told me |
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| 19:22.01 | zu22 | simonrvn: better to have a little clue than a lot of ignorance :) |
| 19:22.09 | simonrvn | yeh. locked down well, that's quite possible. |
| 19:22.14 | simonrvn | indeed |
| 19:22.48 | simonrvn | i refuse to say anything about my own record because i don't want to jinx it. |
| 19:24.13 | garu | currently I'm not really worried about whether it might go down and the need to have a backup...its only for a demo |
| 19:24.42 | garu | I will only have to do a very small demonstration...to show true single sign on...and show that users can login to both linux and windows platforms using the same username and password! |
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| 19:27.32 | dtcrshr | well, after i added the route, the internet dont work |
| 19:27.55 | beardy | You broked the Internet, you will pay! |
| 19:27.58 | dkr | my god, you broke the entire internet!?! |
| 19:28.07 | dtcrshr | yeah! bwehrayhrauhauya |
| 19:28.10 | dtcrshr | im EVIL |
| 19:28.13 | adama_ | yeah I was using that dammit |
| 19:28.19 | dtcrshr | we all are |
| 19:28.23 | dtcrshr | in some goddish way now |
| 19:28.26 | dtcrshr | that i broke it |
| 19:28.47 | simonrvn | garu: then one is fine |
| 19:29.16 | garu | simonrvn thanks alot ;) |
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| 19:33.59 | SerajewelKS | is there a way to have vsftpd run a script or notify something somehow when an upload completes? |
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| 19:35.37 | dtcrshr | jelly, i cant set the route, cause the http traffic if it goes all through the ppp0, the web browsing dont work |
| 19:35.52 | dtcrshr | i need to route only if the access is on some especific ports |
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| 19:36.42 | fknecht | Hi, I want to install debian now. Stable. But I do not want to install Etch now and upgrade to Lenny next week. Is there a way to install Lenny now and still be on stable next week? |
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| 19:38.19 | jelly | dtcrshr: which IP addresses do you want to access via ppp0? |
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| 19:38.37 | dtcrshr | 200.145.1.17 |
| 19:38.42 | jelly | is that all? |
| 19:38.43 | dtcrshr | and 200.145.5.208 |
| 19:38.56 | dtcrshr | 200.145.1.17 ports 2000 and 7778 |
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| 19:39.14 | jelly | dtcrshr: you can add routes for just those two |
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| 19:40.00 | jelly | (but not per port without policy-based routing) |
| 19:40.15 | dtcrshr | hmmm |
| 19:40.40 | dtcrshr | iv checked the manual, its like this: 200.145.1.17:2000 |
| 19:40.45 | Farhadix | I have a question, If I install debian 32bit on a 64bit system it will use only half of cpu's power? |
| 19:40.47 | dtcrshr | 200.145.2.127:7778 |
| 19:41.08 | dtcrshr | and 200.145.5.208, that needs many ports, 6991 9991 4505~4510 |
| 19:41.18 | arezey | farhadix, i think it won't work at all. |
| 19:41.26 | dtcrshr | ill google some about the route on how to route only ports |
| 19:41.28 | jelly | dtcrshr: I don't know hw to deal with separate ports anyway |
| 19:41.33 | simonrvn | Farhadix: it'll work fine |
| 19:41.38 | arezey | oh? |
| 19:41.42 | jelly | dtcrshr: lartc.org is the place to go for policy-based routing |
| 19:41.53 | dtcrshr | oh thanks |
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| 19:42.05 | simonrvn | Farhadix: if it's a server, go for 64b |
| 19:42.30 | kelt | hey, have you guys seen the gOS Englighment Desktop? I don't know of this is a Theme but it looks like a Mac OS and I was wondering if I can get that on Debian? I already got the enlightment wm |
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| 19:43.14 | Farhadix | my cpu chart in heavy cases, show half of my cpu usage, and fix on 50%. It's my laptop core 2 duo. |
| 19:43.31 | dtcrshr | lartc.org dont respond.. |
| 19:43.34 | dtcrshr | ill google |
| 19:43.49 | dtcrshr | douh... www |
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| 19:44.23 | Farhadix | can I upgrade my 32bit debian to 64bit debian? |
| 19:44.30 | sackhacker | Hi, any boost user here? |
| 19:44.55 | sackhacker | My question: Is the math package included in the debian boost packages? |
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| 19:46.14 | simonrvn | !tell sackhacker -about search |
| 19:46.21 | Farhadix | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:46.30 | Farhadix | soory |
| 19:46.34 | Farhadix | sorry :D |
| 19:46.41 | simonrvn | np :) |
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| 19:54.03 | lolufail | hi |
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| 19:54.26 | lolufail | could someone please help me figure out why my munin installation does not plot the cpu graph, but everything else? I'm totally lost... |
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| 19:55.03 | sepski | lolufail, have you tried running the plugin for cpu manually ? |
| 19:55.08 | sepski | does it return any values ? |
| 19:55.14 | lolufail | no I havent |
| 19:55.17 | adama_ | lolufail: any log messages? |
| 19:55.36 | lolufail | munin-update[9549]: segfault at 756c6176 ip b7c5a54a sp bfea7f30 error 4 in librrd.so.2.0.8[b7c4e000+41000] |
| 19:55.42 | lolufail | super often |
| 19:55.47 | lolufail | but on many servers |
| 19:55.53 | lolufail | so I thought this was just how munin works ;) |
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| 19:56.53 | adama_ | lolufail: segfault is always a failure. There may be a newer version available, or information online about that error |
| 19:56.56 | kottlett_ | hi! we use a 64bit debian lenny as build & test server (java development). since today's sun-java5 update our tests keep crashing the JVM quite constantly (SIGSEGV)! anybody else with troubles? anybody having a hint on how to track this down? |
| 19:57.33 | lolufail | sepski: I telneted into the node, now what? |
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| 19:57.56 | lolufail | list cpu only returns a newline |
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| 19:58.46 | lolufail | sepski: fetch cpu does return stuff |
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| 19:59.10 | lolufail | sepski: http://p.nightlyhost.de/?show=d268a17c6 |
| 19:59.35 | lolufail | adama_: it already is the most recent version for etch |
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| 20:01.22 | sepski | lolufail, run the command /etc/munin/plugins/cpu |
| 20:01.59 | lolufail | sepski: http://p.nightlyhost.de/?show=d691bccaa |
| 20:02.31 | lolufail | sepski: the usage% is missing from the graphs |
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| 20:03.40 | lolufail | oh, right, plugins/cpu seems to only provide for that graph ;) |
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| 20:08.14 | nibbler_ | https://confext.disy.net/display/extlinkp/2009+-+KW7 |
| 20:08.25 | nibbler_ | sorry |
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| 20:12.03 | hargathor | hi guys |
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| 20:12.13 | lolufail | sepski: any ideas? |
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| 20:13.31 | sepski | lolufail, sorry none, your output have more values then mine |
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| 20:14.11 | lolufail | sepski: hm |
| 20:14.30 | jelly | kottlett_: does it also happen with Sun's own tarballed JDK 1.5? |
| 20:14.40 | sepski | read the logs ? |
| 20:14.47 | sepski | on the collector |
| 20:14.55 | sepski | and client |
| 20:15.30 | kottlett_ | jelly: I'm currently preparing a try on it :) |
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| 20:16.31 | joko | Hi, is there any place to post a version bump for a Debian package? |
| 20:17.21 | simonrvn | o_O |
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| 20:18.16 | stew | joko: the bts as a patch to a bug |
| 20:18.41 | stew | joko: unless prhaps the package is orphaned or RFAd |
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| 20:20.02 | kottlett_ | jelly: I wasn't able to create a minimal test case yet, so this will take some time -_- |
| 20:20.04 | jelly | what IS a version bump? |
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| 20:20.35 | dkr | a barrier created to slow down development to a safe speed so that script kiddies don't get run over |
| 20:20.56 | joko | stew: Hm, could you please check this? http://dehs.alioth.debian.org/report.php?package=proftpd-dfsg I think the Debian developer already knows there is a new version, right? |
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| 20:22.12 | syzygy | I am trying to restart alsa with some changes I made to modprobe.conf/alsa/alsa file...what is the command in Debian to restart alsa? |
| 20:22.19 | jelly | joko: why are you asking, if we may know? |
| 20:22.25 | joko | jelly: if a new upstream version comes up, some users usually inform the package maintainer. This is called version bump |
| 20:22.42 | stew | joko: yes, he would have gotten mail from dehs, and since the the last time the maintainer made an upload of the package was 2 days ago, it seems that he is active |
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| 20:22.58 | joko | stew: nice, thanks a lot |
| 20:23.23 | stew | joko: why would you want a newer version in debian? |
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| 20:23.50 | jelly | stew: to fix the security issues that were already backported and fixed! |
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| 20:23.59 | stew | jelly: right, that's what I was guessing |
| 20:24.31 | stew | i'm guessing he doesn't realize that the uploads from 2,5 days ago already have the fix |
| 20:25.01 | joko | stew: where can I see the changelog of these uploads? |
| 20:25.03 | stew | joko: yeah, if you read the changelog, he mentions the version you are talking about, so he definately knows abou tit |
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| 20:25.36 | stew | joko: http://packages.qa.debian.org/p/proftpd-dfsg.html or http://changelogs.debian.net/proftpd-dfsg |
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| 20:27.26 | joko | stew: ok, these are the issues I wanted to solve... |
| 20:27.48 | joko | I guess I have to use the unstable version then |
| 20:28.00 | stew | joko: why? stable and testing also have the fix |
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| 20:29.08 | DeadlyTiga | Hi, i tried installing debian (etchnhalf netinstall) on my x61t with an usb stick. I used unetbootin, cause the debian way didn't work (boot error, although the stick works on other machines). Now i can't proceed cause it says i need a CD-ROM after i choose the keyboard layout. Anyone a Idea? |
| 20:29.40 | joko | Weeeell, to tell you the truth, I am using Ubuntu and the multiverse repository (please don't ban me :P ) |
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| 20:30.10 | stew | joko: please go to #ubuntu for help with ubuntu. my guess is that they'd tell you that using the debian unstable package on ubuntu is a bad idea |
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| 20:30.20 | redspike | anyone know any nice way to get users $HOME to be restored when thay login or logout? i have setup a perfect skell for all my ts users ant whant all users to be reseted to that conf when thay login |
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| 20:31.13 | dondelelcaro | redspike: that's all kinds of evil |
| 20:31.15 | joko | stew: I think so, too, but I was already considering moving my server installation to Debian. Ubuntu Server Edition doesn't really offer anything extra |
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| 20:31.33 | redspike | dondelelcaro: ? |
| 20:31.53 | dondelelcaro | redspike: lots of things are stored in a user's home directory; they should always be able to customize it |
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| 20:32.15 | redspike | dondelelcaro: not my users :) |
| 20:32.32 | dondelelcaro | redspike: uh... if your users don't customize things in their home directory, they probably shouldn't have logins at all. |
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| 20:33.14 | redspike | dondelelcaro: tay only run a as/400 terminal . |
| 20:33.18 | redspike | they |
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| 20:34.54 | dondelelcaro | redspike: so they ssh in and run an as/400 terminal? |
| 20:34.55 | edwin_quijada | what program can I use to check if I have rootkit in my ystem? |
| 20:35.14 | dondelelcaro | edwin_quijada: chkrootkit can do some of it, but if you suspect one, reinstall. |
| 20:35.24 | dondelelcaro | redspike: or does the terminal start automatically on every login? |
| 20:35.25 | redspike | dondelelcaro: some firefox and openoffice to. |
| 20:35.51 | dondelelcaro | redspike: so these are local users? |
| 20:36.02 | redspike | dondelelcaro: ltsp |
| 20:36.19 | dondelelcaro | redspike: and each user has their own login, though? |
| 20:36.40 | edwin_quijada | there is no a another solution? |
| 20:36.52 | dondelelcaro | edwin_quijada: nope. |
| 20:36.53 | dtcrshr | anyone good on iptables? i need a rule to to something like this: any access from my eth1, trying to access 200.145.0.0, will go to the ppp0 interface |
| 20:36.56 | redspike | dondelelcaro: yes (autologin) 1 login name @ client |
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| 20:39.26 | zu22 | dondelelcaro: are all the factoids for the channel bot 'dpkg' available online? |
| 20:39.35 | dondelelcaro | !your factoids |
| 20:39.35 | dpkg | Pick my brains at http://dpkg.vireo.org/search.php or ask me about <help listkeys> or <search>. Also, my factoids are available at http://rzlab.ucr.edu/~dpkg/ in archives that are updated nightly and the previous 18 days are archived. |
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| 20:39.56 | zu22 | dondelelcaro: thanks! |
| 20:40.15 | cirzgamanti | hi, what do i have to do to get bash completion for apt-get etc.? bash_completion is installed. |
| 20:41.01 | florist | cirzgamanti: check your .bashrc to see if the bash_completion snippets are enabled |
| 20:41.07 | florist | cirzgamanti: by default they're not. |
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| 20:42.40 | cirzgamanti | ah thx, that's probably it. i re-installed lenny yesterday. |
| 20:43.11 | stew | cirzgamanti: install the bash-completion package if its not already installed |
| 20:43.32 | cirzgamanti | it says "if [ -f /etc/bash_completion ]; then . /etc/bash_completion fi". looks activated to me ? |
| 20:43.40 | dondelelcaro | redspike: so in such a case, what you probably want is libpam-mount with a copy on write filesystem |
| 20:43.52 | florist | then check to make sure the package is installed like stew suggested. |
| 20:44.04 | cirzgamanti | i have a dir /etc/bash_completion, so i guess it's installed. |
| 20:44.35 | cirzgamanti | yup, it's installed. |
| 20:44.51 | florist | othen do 'source /etc/bash_completion' and see if that works first. |
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| 20:45.43 | stew | if you have a dir /etc/bash_completion, that would be strange, it should be a file. or did you mean a file? or did you mean /etc/bash_completion.d? |
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| 20:46.23 | cirzgamanti | sorry, i ment file, and bash_completion.d |
| 20:46.31 | redspike | dondelelcaro: the system will be read only? |
| 20:46.46 | cirzgamanti | sourcing works. i'll check something else... |
| 20:48.34 | cirzgamanti | ok, i uncommented it in /etc/bash.bashrc, now it works. maybe some issue with my ~/.bashrc... thx guys :) |
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| 20:48.58 | florist | cirzgamanti: may be .bashrc wasn't being sourced? |
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| 20:49.12 | florist | cirzgamanti: check how you created the shell. |
| 20:49.30 | Lagaro | greets everyone |
| 20:49.49 | cirzgamanti | yes, that's what i was thinking. which is strange, because it looked to me like the first line of .bashrc *is* run at start... |
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| 20:50.59 | vaq | Can I with ethtool change the speed for my nic without interrupting a file transfer? |
| 20:51.12 | cirzgamanti | yes, the whole .bashrc is read when creating a new konsole session |
| 20:51.24 | cirzgamanti | whatever, it's working for now ;) |
| 20:51.36 | Lagaro | vaq: hang on, and I'll tell you . . . |
| 20:52.02 | vaq | Lagaro: thanks! |
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| 20:59.24 | Laeborg` | hi. im thinking about installing debian, and setting up JBOD via LVM (i have 3x320gb) and then use another 160gb for the /home, /root and other "system" partitions. is there any how-to to LVM, because i have never used it before |
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| 21:00.23 | bazyl | hi everybody ;) |
| 21:00.29 | dkr | Laeborg`: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/ |
| 21:00.31 | bazyl | hello debianers ;) |
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| 21:01.01 | dkr | bazyl: if you are trying to get all 800 of us to say hi, it's not gonna work. :) |
| 21:01.24 | bazyl | dkr: oh why? |
| 21:01.44 | Laeborg` | a friend was talking about, that i should boot up on redhat livecd for setting up lvm, before i boot up on debian disc and install debian |
| 21:01.44 | bazyl | i just want to be kind :) |
| 21:02.12 | stew | Laeborg`: why wouldn't you just setup lvm from the debian install? |
| 21:02.21 | Laeborg` | can i do that ? |
| 21:02.25 | stew | sure |
| 21:02.32 | TimRan | hello bazyl or Michal ;) |
| 21:02.37 | bazyl | :) |
| 21:02.49 | kris | hey guys do you know how to set a network interface to be down on startup? |
| 21:03.06 | TimRan | remove NIC ;) |
| 21:03.29 | kris | its built in on the motherboard :P |
| 21:03.29 | stew | kris: remove the 'auto' or 'allow-hotplug' line from /etc/network/interfaces that is causing it to be brought up automatically |
| 21:03.38 | vaq | Can I with ethtool change the speed for my nic without interrupting a file transfer? |
| 21:03.52 | stew | vaq: yes |
| 21:04.00 | vaq | thanks stew |
| 21:04.05 | kris | thnx illl give it a shot now |
| 21:04.06 | Laeborg` | debian-40r7-etchnhalf-i386-netinst.iso ? |
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| 21:04.51 | corey_ | How can i define user with root permissions? |
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| 21:06.57 | kris | atew: there are entries for eth0 and lo but not this usb0 |
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| 21:07.11 | kris | although its in ifconfig |
| 21:07.36 | Laeborg` | should i just take debian-40r7-etchnhalf-i386-netinst.iso ? |
| 21:07.48 | stew | kris: is network manager running? do you know what is starting it? |
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| 21:07.56 | stew | Laeborg`: sure |
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| 21:07.58 | corey_ | haloooo, can anybody help me? |
| 21:08.00 | corey_ | How can i define user with root permissions? |
| 21:08.08 | stew | Laeborg`: or consider installing lenny, which becomes the new stable this weekend |
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| 21:08.29 | Laeborg` | is there a netinst of lenny ? |
| 21:08.36 | stew | corey_: you should already have one? why do you need another? perhaps you want sudo which will allow you to selectively give some root privileges to another user |
| 21:08.47 | stew | Laeborg`: http://debian.org/devel/debian-installer |
| 21:09.03 | corey_ | stew: i need give permissions for other admin |
| 21:09.07 | ReKlipz | hey all, I've got a mobile device that is using a Marvell PXA320 XScale processor, which wikipedia claims is an ARM11 architecture cpu. How can I get debian up and running on this puppy (it is currently running Angstrom linux...) |
| 21:09.14 | stew | corey_: use sudo |
| 21:09.24 | kris | stew: I think its running, although the notification area is not showing it |
| 21:09.40 | Laeborg` | debian-Lenny-DI-rc2-i386-netinst.iso |
| 21:10.16 | stew | kris: you could try adding "iface usb0 inet manual" to /etc/network/interfaces, which would make network-manager ignore it if that is the culprit |
| 21:10.19 | corey_ | stew: but how can i use sudo as different user with password different as mine? |
| 21:10.36 | stew | kris: you could also blacklist whatever kernel module is making usb0 appear |
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| 21:11.15 | stew | corey_: sudo would ask the user for that users own password, not yours and not the root password |
| 21:11.43 | stew | (or no password if that is how it is configured) |
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| 21:12.47 | corey_ | stew: so i should give privileges other user for sudo , yes?? |
| 21:12.48 | kris | stew: Ive added the line in interfaces, this should work. Thanks! |
| 21:13.20 | stew | corey_: yes, configure sudoers using visudo in order to give the other user the permission to run whatever commands he needs to run as root |
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| 21:14.41 | kawk | vaq: well, it's interesting |
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| 21:15.05 | kawk | vaq: ethtool -s eth0 speed 10 doesn't change the speed at all, but it doesn't interrupt the transfer either |
| 21:15.33 | corey_ | stew: i try it, tnx. |
| 21:16.12 | Lagaro | is going to look further at ethtool -s . . . |
| 21:16.17 | Lagaro | is going AFK |
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| 21:16.45 | Tramp | Lagaro: I didn't follow your conversation, but before changing stuff with ethtool, make sure to disable auto-neg |
| 21:17.15 | Tramp | Lagaro: otherwise, everything you change may be "autonegotiated away" immediately |
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| 21:20.41 | draeath | Anyone have a copy of debian-Lenny-DI-rc2-amd64-i386-powerpc-netinst.iso |
| 21:20.49 | draeath | could you calc an MD5sum for me? |
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| 21:21.04 | kottlett_ | jelly: the original sun binaries are crashing too -_- |
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| 21:22.53 | gewt | b4@apocalypse:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure gcpegg |
| 21:22.53 | gewt | debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process |
| 21:22.59 | gewt | wat is broken? |
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| 21:23.44 | draeath | gewt: you have another package manager tool running |
| 21:23.50 | draeath | or the one that was running didn't clean up |
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| 21:24.58 | Lagaro | Tramp: yep, did that |
| 21:25.38 | Lagaro | gewt: just means that some other package manager is still running |
| 21:26.41 | gewt | but none is. |
| 21:26.44 | Posterdati | hi |
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| 21:26.58 | Posterdati | please how can I enable DVI output on a radeon 9200? |
| 21:27.10 | Lagaro | gewt: what does 'ps aux |grep apt' and 'ps aux |grep dpkg' tell you? |
| 21:27.15 | draeath | Anyone have a copy of debian-Lenny-DI-rc2-amd64-i386-powerpc-netinst.iso? Can you hook me up with an md5sum? |
| 21:27.25 | gewt | nothing but grep apt |
| 21:27.47 | gewt | so I assume I just delete a lockfile? |
| 21:28.10 | gewt | what lockfile should I delete? |
| 21:28.13 | Lagaro | gewt: mmm . . . perhaps |
| 21:28.21 | Lagaro | gewt: hang on, I'll get the lockfile |
| 21:28.25 | gewt | k |
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| 21:31.01 | andy__ | hi! |
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| 21:31.04 | Lagaro | gewt: /var/lib/dpkg/lock is the file, of course |
| 21:31.14 | Lagaro | gewt: but you shouldn't have to delete it manually |
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| 21:31.30 | Lagaro | gewt: has a package manager crashed recently? |
| 21:31.30 | stew | s/have to// |
| 21:31.30 | Farhadix | Hi guys, Fn+F2 lets me to turn on/off bluetooth+wireless device, but I need a command to do this work as well as Fn+F2, any suggest? |
| 21:31.55 | Lagaro | Farhadix: mmm . . . Fn+F2 might be a hardware switch |
| 21:32.02 | gewt | Lagaro, maybe |
| 21:32.05 | andy__ | I had a friend using my laptop, not as root but with my user account. Dunno what he did, but now I don't have Synaptic anymore in System-Administration. How can I recover it? |
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| 21:32.11 | gewt | and i rmeoved /var/lib/dpkg/lock |
| 21:32.15 | gewt | and i still get an error |
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| 21:32.25 | Lagaro | gewt: what isthe exact error? |
| 21:32.43 | stew | gewt: you have to exit the application that has that file locked |
| 21:32.50 | gewt | it was exited |
| 21:32.55 | gewt | nvm |
| 21:32.57 | Farhadix | for example in ubuntu without my permission, it turns on wireless, by software. |
| 21:33.00 | jvm_ | hi. i use the lenny sources, have updated today, i am using kernel 2.6.26. i would like to get a webcam working on my system, and have a quickcam camera as well as an omnivision webcam here. both do not lead to the creation of a /dev/video device when plugged in; the uvc webpage claims that the omnivision camera should be supported by default since kernel 2.6.26. any hints? thanks a lot. |
| 21:33.02 | gewt | it seems to me nothing useful |
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| 21:33.04 | Lagaro | andy__: mmm, rebuild your menus |
| 21:33.15 | andy__ | Lagaro: How? |
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| 21:33.19 | andy__ | am new to Linux |
| 21:33.52 | Farhadix | Lagaro, ^^ |
| 21:34.08 | stew | andy__: does "dpkg -l synaptic" show it as still installed? |
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| 21:34.44 | stew | Farhadix: unload the kernel module? |
| 21:34.59 | andy__ | stew: rc synaptic 0.57.11.1 |
| 21:35.10 | andy__ | seems to be there |
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| 21:35.15 | stew | andy__: yes, c means it is no longer installed. "aptitude install synpatic" |
| 21:35.24 | andy__ | oh |
| 21:35.25 | andy__ | ok |
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| 21:36.36 | Farhadix | stew, module is in use by other modules |
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| 21:36.47 | stew | Farhadix: unload them |
| 21:37.02 | stew | Farhadix: (or use modprobe -r which would try to unload them for you) |
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| 21:38.27 | andy__ | stew: ok, done that. it says: current status: 3 broken [-3], 174 actualisations [-1] |
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| 21:38.46 | stew | andy__: i'd expect synaptic to now have reappeared in your menu |
| 21:38.47 | andy__ | and still not in the menu |
| 21:38.50 | andy__ | no |
| 21:38.52 | andy__ | :-( |
| 21:38.55 | stew | 16:34 < stew> andy__: does "dpkg -l synaptic" show it as still installed? |
| 21:38.58 | andy__ | do i have to reboot? |
| 21:39.08 | stew | no, its not windows :) |
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| 21:39.16 | andy__ | still rc |
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| 21:39.31 | kawk | sorry about that . . . |
| 21:39.33 | stew | then "aptitude install synaptic" should have given you an error |
| 21:39.53 | sepult | jvm_: zuerst muss das modul geladen sein, sieh nach mit lsmod|grep -i quick oder so, und wenn es usb ist würd ich entweder den stecker neu raus und reinstecken damit sie eingehängt wird oder sogar neubooten (vorher das modul in /etc/modules eintragen) |
| 21:39.58 | sepult | ups sorry |
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| 21:40.13 | andy__ | stew: only that thing: current status 3 errors |
| 21:40.19 | andy__ | 3 broken |
| 21:40.28 | andy__ | well, i don't have english version |
| 21:40.34 | stew | andy__: try "aptitude -f install" to fix the broken packages |
| 21:40.52 | stew | andy__: "LANG=c whatevercommand" should change the output to english |
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| 21:42.10 | andy__ | stew: ok, doing "LANG=c aptitude -f install synaptic |
| 21:42.11 | andy__ | " |
| 21:42.16 | abrotman | stew: wasn't it nice outside today? :) |
| 21:42.26 | stew | abrotman: indeed |
| 21:43.02 | andy__ | stew: "Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 21:43.02 | andy__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:43.02 | andy__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:43.02 | andy__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:43.02 | andy__ | " |
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| 21:43.18 | scum | Is it possible to get PHP 5.2.4 to work on Debian etch? |
| 21:43.55 | Farhadix | why not? |
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| 21:44.17 | abrotman | scum: if you compile it yourself perhaps |
| 21:44.22 | andy__ | i think, there are even other things missing in the menu, like software sources |
| 21:44.27 | abrotman | judd: versions php5-cli |
| 21:44.32 | stew | andy__: can you show us the output of "apt-cache policy synaptic" ? ; use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
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| 21:44.37 | judd | abrotman: php5-cli -- etch: 5.2.0-8+etch13 etch-security: 5.2.0-8+etch13 lenny: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny2 lenny-security: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny2 sid: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-3 |
| 21:45.04 | avu | scum, as you see, etch already has 5.2 |
| 21:45.28 | avu | scum, the security fixes that went into 5.2.x are applied in the debian package already |
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| 21:46.19 | andy__ | stew: http://pastebin.com/m2d70c479 |
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| 21:47.36 | stew | andy__: and can you pastebin the output of "LANG=c aptitude install synaptic" ? |
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| 21:50.20 | andy__ | stew: http://pastebin.com/m494f3875 |
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| 21:51.17 | stew | i have no idea why aptitude wouldn't be trying to install synaptic |
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| 21:51.19 | andy__ | stew: I seem to have more problems; I have a file whose permissions i wanna change via gui and evrytime i try that it crashes and i'm promted to file a bug report |
| 21:51.37 | Jemt | Stupid ATI driver >.< Unstable as hell |
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| 21:52.13 | andy__ | stew: anyway, thank you for trying to help. :-) |
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| 21:52.39 | stew | andy__: can you try "aptitude install cupsys-bsd" |
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| 21:52.52 | stew | andy__: or "aptitude reinstall cupsys-bsd" |
| 21:53.01 | FreeSWnoob | i'm having problems sshing into a remote terminal i have that is running a version of debian. I'm trying to set it to connect on a different port other than 22, as i have other devices on the network that need 22. when i edit the /ssh/ssh_config file, save, and exit view the file again my changes are there, when i reboot the machine its back to 22.. also, when i change the config then try i still can't connect on the port i changed it to |
| 21:53.10 | scum | 5.2.4 is a dependency of synfony 1.2 |
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| 21:54.15 | andy__ | stew: just did it and then tried to install synaptica agian: still same error |
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| 21:55.56 | dtcrshr | jelly, it worked! |
| 21:56.05 | dtcrshr | but i need to sinthetyze some lines |
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| 21:56.22 | dtcrshr | i need to say, from 200.145.1.1, to 200.145.5.255 |
| 21:56.34 | dtcrshr | is there a way to say all this range, with ip/mask ? |
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| 21:57.41 | stew | dtcrshr: not with only one ip/mask, unless you were ok with including 200.145.0.0 - 100.145.7.255 |
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| 21:58.21 | dtcrshr | can i do some range stuff? |
| 21:58.27 | dtcrshr | sort of, from here to there |
| 21:58.30 | dtcrshr | on iptables? |
| 21:59.07 | dtcrshr | iptables --insert OUTPUT 1 --source 0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0 \ |
| 21:59.07 | dtcrshr | --destination 192.168.0.0/16 --jump ACCEPT --out-interface ppp0 |
| 21:59.11 | dtcrshr | thats the line |
| 21:59.21 | dtcrshr | on destination, i gotta set the range |
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| 22:00.01 | elyezer | in what repo is eclipse 3.4? |
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| 22:01.04 | scum | Anyone running 5.2.4? |
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| 22:05.57 | abrotman | scum: why is it a dependency? and where did you get this synfony package ? |
| 22:07.37 | scum | pear |
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| 22:11.29 | johndo | hi |
| 22:12.43 | \amethyst | scum: it sounds like you will need to either backport PHP yourself (no easy task), or switch to lenny |
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| 22:13.15 | johndo | does aptitude know about /etc/apt/preferences? |
| 22:13.25 | Tidus | johndo: yes |
| 22:13.45 | Tidus | from what i see, all the package managers honor what's set in there |
| 22:14.10 | scum | Hah switching to lenny... I wonder why anybody considers that an option at all. |
| 22:14.13 | johndo | so when i set priority for testing to 1000 and unstable to 700 it should not try to upgrade a lib to the unstable version? |
| 22:14.26 | \amethyst | scum: in a few days etch becomes oldstable |
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| 22:14.51 | \amethyst | scum: people usually consider upgrading because they want newer versions of software |
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| 22:15.43 | scum | Yes, but I am not using unstable nor testing for certain reasons |
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| 22:18.45 | johndo | any idea what's wrong there: apt-cache policy correctly says priority 1000 for the lenny version of libcucul0 and 700 for the sid version, but aptitude still proposes to upgrade to the sid version on an aptitude dist-upgrade? |
| 22:19.01 | \amethyst | scum: so wait a few days... lenny is due to be released on Saturday or so |
| 22:19.14 | scum | Very nice |
| 22:19.41 | johndo | i would say wait another month or 2 if you don't need to upgrade |
| 22:19.58 | johndo | the upgrade is a real pain, dependencies are a mess so far |
| 22:20.22 | \amethyst | you can't do just a straight dist-upgrade |
| 22:20.24 | scum | not desperately, I have newest versions at work |
| 22:20.58 | johndo | well, i'm at step 20 or so, not a single dist-upgrade |
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| 22:22.16 | johndo | and such aptitude behaviour as described above isn't helpfull at all |
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| 22:23.16 | jandremendesc | hello |
| 22:23.24 | scum | Will a dist upgrade to soon to be newstable work as well as from sarge to etch then? What are the rumors? |
| 22:23.33 | jandremendesc | portuguese? |
| 22:24.05 | dkr | !po |
| 22:24.05 | dpkg | i guess po is Piss Off or Post Office |
| 22:24.11 | stew | scum: yes, it will be a similar upgrade process (see chapter 4 of the release notes fro instructions) |
| 22:24.17 | stew | !br |
| 22:24.17 | dpkg | Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 22:25.22 | superdump | has anyone ever installed debian (or linux) on a macbook (or mac) using a usb flash drive? |
| 22:25.32 | superdump | i don't really want to burn a cd |
| 22:25.39 | dkr | ah, .pt is portugal |
| 22:26.27 | scum | nice |
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| 22:28.06 | superdump | also because the optical drive in my macbook doesn't really pick up discs anymore |
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| 22:31.14 | jandremendesc | i have 2 pc 1 febian 1 windows xp |
| 22:32.22 | abrotman | febian ? |
| 22:32.34 | abrotman | the mutant offspring of fedora and debian |
| 22:32.44 | asg | abrotman: fabian, that 50's singer |
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| 22:33.31 | abrotman | asg: eh .. he's from philly |
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| 22:33.50 | abrotman | (this is what i get for reading a book about the history of 'rock' in the philly area) |
| 22:34.18 | zzattack | hi, I've installed the package pureftpd-mysql and I cannot use pure-ftpwho. there are no errors and nothing is logged, output is also errorless but it always seems as if there is no information available, even when people are connected |
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| 22:44.52 | bigjocker | is there a way to make VLC work with H.264 videos? |
| 22:45.05 | bigjocker | i'm using debian-multimedia to no avail |
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| 22:47.42 | christoz | hello, i'm running debian lenny, and i've just found out that i don't have updatedb , locate/slocate how come? |
| 22:47.59 | enouf | christoz: try as root? |
| 22:48.23 | enouf | christoz: findutils: /usr/lib/locate |
| 22:48.23 | stew | christoz: aptitude install slocate? |
| 22:48.32 | abrotman | christoz: you may not have installed the package? |
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| 22:50.00 | Tidus | bigjocker: install libx264 |
| 22:51.07 | enouf | findutils: /usr/bin/updatedb |
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| 22:52.51 | Tidus | might i suggest adding the package 'command-not-found' to the default install set? that'd help a lot with figuring out which package holds the command that wasn't found |
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| 22:54.27 | bigjocker | Tidus, i have libx264-60 and libx264-65 installed |
| 22:54.45 | cesar_CR | hi guys, how do I resolve de failed to initialize HAL! error ????? |
| 22:54.47 | bigjocker | main decoder error: no suitable decoder module for fourcc `h264' |
| 22:55.34 | Tidus | bigjocker: i have just -654 |
| 22:55.36 | Tidus | -65 * |
| 22:55.41 | bigjocker | hmm |
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| 22:55.59 | Tidus | what's the file extension on your file? |
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| 22:58.09 | Tidus | bigjocker: will mplayer play the file? |
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| 22:59.07 | bigjocker | Tidus, its a network stream |
| 22:59.20 | bigjocker | and mplayer does not play it either |
| 22:59.23 | enouf | cesar_CR: install hal? |
| 22:59.38 | enouf | cesar_CR: ps aux | grep hal | wc -l |
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| 23:00.12 | Tidus | bigjocker: hm... |
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| 23:00.36 | Tidus | if mplayer won't play it, you know you're in trouble... |
| 23:00.43 | [ThePro] | hm |
| 23:00.52 | cesar_CR | enouf, output 1, and hal is installed |
| 23:01.09 | [ThePro] | well |
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| 23:01.26 | enouf | cesar_CR: ~$ ps aux | grep hal | wc -l |
| 23:01.26 | enouf | 10 |
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| 23:01.41 | [ThePro] | There are suspectious entries in my lighttpd.log file |
| 23:01.57 | Tidus | bigjocker: will it play the file if it was local? |
| 23:01.58 | enouf | cesar_CR: cat /proc/version |
| 23:02.10 | [ThePro] | and I did: "cat access.los | grep w00tw00t.at.ISC.SANS.DFind |
| 23:02.29 | [ThePro] | is there a way to display every IP only once? |
| 23:02.33 | cesar_CR | enouf, Linux version 2.6.26-1-686 (Debian 2.6.26-13) (waldi@debian.org) (gcc version 4.1.3 20080704 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.2-24)) #1 SMP Sat Jan 10 18:29:31 UTC 2009 |
| 23:03.03 | abrotman | [ThePro]: sort and uniq |
| 23:03.22 | enouf | cesar_CR: ok - on lenny? is dbus/d-bus pkgs installed? when do you get that hal error? |
| 23:03.28 | [ThePro] | abrotman, thx i'll try |
| 23:03.44 | abrotman | [ThePro]: you probably want some awk too .. but since you didn't give the whole line .. can't tel you much more |
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| 23:04.38 | cesar_CR | enouf, after an update, cheking dbus pks.... |
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| 23:05.01 | enouf | cesar_CR: update? or update + upgrade? |
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| 23:05.30 | enouf | cesar_CR: as it's upgrading? or ... when you go to launch an app? |
| 23:05.57 | cesar_CR | update only |
| 23:06.13 | cesar_CR | the error apears whe I start my gnome session |
| 23:07.04 | enouf | cesar_CR: well, update only update your local apt-cache database, so that wouldn't cause the issue |
| 23:07.04 | [ThePro] | abrotman, I just want to get all IPs that are doing these request to tell it my Serverhoster |
| 23:07.39 | enouf | cesar_CR: unless .. perhaps ..there's some update-manager type thing you're using? you use Synaptic .. or aptitude? |
| 23:07.43 | abrotman | [ThePro]: need a sample line |
| 23:07.57 | cesar_CR | enouf, synaptic |
| 23:07.57 | abrotman | the whole line |
| 23:08.06 | [ThePro] | abrotman, ok |
| 23:08.10 | [ThePro] | sec... |
| 23:08.44 | ThePro | 94.76.206.214 - - [10/Feb/2009:01:12:38 +0100] "GET /w00tw00t.at.ISC.SANS.DFind:) HTTP/1.1" 400 349 "-" "-" |
| 23:09.07 | ThePro | only the date/time is changing |
| 23:09.14 | abrotman | ThePro: grep w00tw00t <file> | awk '{print $1}' | sort | uniq |
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| 23:10.17 | enouf | cesar_CR: have you tried /etc/init.d/hal restart? cesar_CR also make sure udevd is running (ps aux | grep udevd) ... |
| 23:10.34 | enouf | cesar_CR: ls -l /etc/rc2.d/S24hal says? |
| 23:10.45 | [ThePro] | abrotman, lol thank you |
| 23:11.08 | [ThePro] | abrotman, works perfect :) |
| 23:11.10 | cesar_CR | enouf, S24hal file does not exist |
| 23:11.36 | enouf | cesar_CR: how about ls -l /etc/rc2.d/*hal* |
| 23:12.08 | abrotman | [ThePro]: next time, you may want to ask #bash .. they may know a better way |
| 23:12.12 | cesar_CR | enouf, /etc/rc2.d/S24hal -> ../init.d/hal |
| 23:12.23 | enouf | er ... |
| 23:12.27 | [ThePro] | abrotman, ok |
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| 23:13.28 | enouf | cesar_CR: listen, sorry - i have no idea what's wrong - maybe /msg dpkg gnome and visit the channels/network listed - i have to run |
| 23:14.04 | cesar_CR | enouf, thanks a lot !!! no prob!!!! |
| 23:14.09 | abrotman | cesar_CR: how did you install hal ? |
| 23:14.21 | abrotman | and how did you install xorg and gnome ?. |
| 23:14.35 | abrotman | uses two punctuation marks .. because he can .. |
| 23:15.04 | cesar_CR | abrotman, with the hole O.S. in a "normal" way |
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| 23:15.16 | abrotman | cesar_CR: aptitude install xorg gnome gdm ? |
| 23:15.37 | abrotman | make sure oyur libdbus is installed and working |
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| 23:16.07 | cesar_CR | abrotman, no, with the debian installer at the instalation process, a long time ago.. |
| 23:16.24 | abrotman | cesar_CR: humor me .. try `aptitude install gnome xorg` at the command line |
| 23:16.38 | cesar_CR | abrotman, okok |
| 23:16.55 | Vincent0ne- | hmm apitude is a forgotten program with me |
| 23:17.05 | abrotman | good for you |
| 23:17.24 | Vincent0ne- | I use debian lenny I been too used to using synaptic |
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| 23:17.54 | Vincent0ne- | before synaptic was used I used to use dselect |
| 23:17.58 | cesar_CR | abrotman, ok running.... |
| 23:18.02 | abrotman | installing anything ? |
| 23:18.32 | johndo | does aptitude and apt-get use the same database for package autoinstall information in lenny? |
| 23:18.49 | bigjocker | Tidus, vlc -v --reset-plugins-cache did the trick |
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| 23:19.06 | abrotman | cesar_CR: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=480694 |
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| 23:20.55 | Tidus | bigjocker: cool |
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| 23:21.23 | elyezer | what is best to use apt-get or aptitude? |
| 23:21.28 | abrotman | johndo: don't think so |
| 23:21.32 | abrotman | elyezer: aptitude in most cases |
| 23:21.47 | elyezer | abrotman, ok |
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| 23:21.58 | johndo | at least if you have a fast pc |
| 23:22.09 | abrotman | no really .. aptitude in most cases |
| 23:22.35 | dmoerner | aptitude is much slower on 133 mhz armel, but it's worth the wait |
| 23:22.40 | johndo | aptitude upgrade takes more than 10 mins to resolve conflicts here |
| 23:22.45 | JyZyXEL | !lenny status |
| 23:22.46 | dpkg | Barring unforseen disasters, it is anticipated that lenny will be released on Feb 14, 2009. For further details, ask me about <wwlr>. Also see <lenny release notes> <etch->lenny> |
| 23:22.49 | johndo | on an amd 4000+ |
| 23:23.09 | abrotman | it doesn't matter .. it's still the recommended package manager |
| 23:23.26 | abrotman | and if it's taking 10 minutes .. you've got something wrong on your system |
| 23:23.34 | abrotman | it doesn't even take 10 minutes on a 586 |
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| 23:24.03 | elyezer | is there a repo that I could install eclipse 3.4? or only from eclipse.org |
| 23:24.05 | elyezer | ? |
| 23:24.23 | abrotman | judd: versions eclipse |
| 23:24.23 | judd | abrotman: eclipse -- etch: 3.2.1-4 lenny: 3.2.2-6.1 sid: 3.2.2-6.1 |
| 23:24.27 | abrotman | guess not |
| 23:24.44 | johndo | it seems to calculate thousands of variants if you have debian multimedia included |
| 23:25.13 | llimeht | johndo: not here.... you have a very unhappy box with some strange pinning or holds involved |
| 23:25.28 | abrotman | or too many sources |
| 23:25.29 | johndo | no pinning, no holds |
| 23:25.39 | johndo | maybe that :) |
| 23:25.51 | johndo | debian, backports, volatile and multimedia |
| 23:26.15 | abrotman | still sholdn't take 10 minutes |
| 23:26.27 | johndo | what are these numbers aptitude counts up and down when calculating the upgrade? |
| 23:26.33 | llimeht | johndo: I have all of them (plus lenny and sid so I can see what else is available) and have no issues |
| 23:26.39 | johndo | open: 24; closed: 2101; defer: 5302; conflict: 5 |
| 23:27.04 | llimeht | you shouldn't have conflicts like that on a stable box |
| 23:27.25 | johndo | it isn't stable, it's testing and unstable |
| 23:27.45 | stew | johndo: show us the output of "apt-cache policy" |
| 23:27.52 | llimeht | johndo: that's where you're going wrong then... you shouldn't have bpo and volatile in there |
| 23:28.04 | llimeht | (at least not without some sensible pinning) |
| 23:28.24 | master_of_master | hi, what filesystem should I use if I have to handle millions of hard links and small files (maildir)? |
| 23:28.24 | johndo | hmm, too long to post here |
| 23:28.29 | stew | johndo: use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 23:28.31 | abrotman | paste.debian.net |
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| 23:28.49 | stew | master_of_master: ext3 |
| 23:28.51 | abrotman | master_of_master: i have our maildir on ext3 |
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| 23:30.31 | master_of_master | well, I use ext3 but I just got: "Problem in HTREE directory inode ...: node () has invalid depth" |
| 23:31.17 | icebrain | I thought RaiserFS was better for many small files? |
| 23:32.05 | stew | master_of_master: a fsck should fix that |
| 23:32.33 | stew | icebrain: reiserfs can be faster, but not better becuase its not reliable |
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| 23:33.24 | stew | heh, namesys.com expires in a few weeks, i wonder what will happen with it |
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| 23:34.04 | llimeht | registers namesys.com and puts a sign up saying "just use ext3 ffs" |
| 23:34.14 | stew | plz.tnx. |
| 23:34.34 | asg | or ext4 until it's stable |
| 23:34.44 | johndo | stew: http://rafb.net/p/ZTmR7m69.html |
| 23:34.47 | llimeht | "pls just use ext3 ffs kthnxbye"? |
| 23:35.00 | JyZyXEL | i don't like ext3 |
| 23:35.26 | stew | JyZyXEL: yeah, but you don't seem to like much |
| 23:35.31 | llimeht | johndo: "no pinning"? |
| 23:35.40 | JyZyXEL | true |
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| 23:35.48 | stew | i think we're supposed to start pointing the reiserfs users to btrfs for the newer btree broken fs |
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| 23:35.58 | stew | btrfs is probably already less broken |
| 23:36.07 | johndo | llimeht: no, pinning of single packages or what do you mean? |
| 23:38.23 | johndo | litlebuda: aptitude dist-upgrade comes back withing a second or so, only aptitude upgrade takes minutes |
| 23:38.43 | johndo | oops, llimeht i meant |
| 23:38.47 | stew | johndo: why not get rid of the lenny sources if you have sid sources? |
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| 23:39.00 | stew | and lenny/volatile |
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| 23:39.33 | llimeht | and lenny+sid+exptl of dmm |
| 23:39.46 | johndo | stew: i don't want to go to unstable for the whole system, only for packages which were removed from testing |
| 23:40.16 | johndo | i can remove volatile for now, though ;) |
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| 23:41.38 | johndo | stew: i check without volatile if it helps |
| 23:41.57 | johndo | but i'm afraid the problem is the multimedia stuff |
| 23:42.31 | llimeht | johndo: why do you have three entries for multimedia? |
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| 23:42.47 | stew | johndo: what exactly is the problem? how long aptitutde is taking to calculate dependencies? |
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| 23:43.37 | johndo | stew: because some of the multimedia packages are not (yet) in testing |
| 23:43.48 | paulfitzpatrick | I just switched to fcgi / php 5 on apache 2.2 on debian and keep getting these errors: http://pastie.org/386558 on one site (the rest of the sites seem fine) |
| 23:43.54 | paulfitzpatrick | anyone familar with that issue? |
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| 23:44.02 | johndo | stew: 11 mins last time i looked at the clock |
| 23:44.03 | llimeht | johndo: If "upgrade" is taking ages and "dist-upgrade" is fast, I'll bet that you actually need to do a dist-upgrade to install new packages and that the resolver is taking ages cope with not being allowed to recommend that |
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| 23:44.30 | paulfitzpatrick | the site simply displays 500 internal error. |
| 23:45.00 | johndo | stew: my problem is that aptitude tries to remove too many packages on aptitude dist-upgrade |
| 23:45.16 | johndo | so i try step by step with install and upgrade |
| 23:45.39 | stew | johndo: i'd dist-upgrade with just the lenny sources first |
| 23:46.00 | paulfitzpatrick | fcgi conf: http://pastie.org/386570 |
| 23:46.01 | johndo | and i know that aptitude does not neeed to remove those packages as i have them installed on a second system |
| 23:46.02 | stew | johndo: and forget all the pinning and just use Default-Release |
| 23:46.05 | JyZyXEL | lenny is gonna release soon! |
| 23:46.09 | llimeht | johndo: can you pastebin the output of aptitude dist-upgrade? It sounds like you're trying to construct a deeply unhappy lenny/sid mix. Remember that lenny and sid have been diverging for the last few months so a lenny/sid mix is no-longer trivial. |
| 23:46.18 | stew | johndo: can you give us some example packages? |
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| 23:47.01 | johndo | llimeht: i know that i don't make it easy for aptitude, but i have used such a mix for years now |
| 23:47.16 | llimeht | johndo: not just before a release though.... |
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| 23:48.02 | llimeht | johndo: remember that because lenny and sid have diverged, you're now trying to make something like a stable/unstable mix rather than a testing/unstable mix |
| 23:48.21 | johndo | stew: tea and 3gpwiz e.g. |
| 23:48.45 | johndo | i usually have a stable/testing/unstable mix |
| 23:48.58 | stew | johndo: does "aptitude why-not tea" give a reason? |
| 23:48.59 | johndo | so it actually should nbe more easy now :) |
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| 23:49.21 | llimeht | johndo: therein lies the problem. /msg dpkg pinning |
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| 23:49.29 | johndo | stew: Unable to find a reason to remove tea. |
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| 23:51.45 | DeSian | is nice if you add lenny->sid too in dbkg bot :) |
| 23:51.59 | stew | DeSian: we have "/msg dpkg iyhtays" instead |
| 23:52.04 | H4z3 | Guys, has anyone managed to get pypanel to work in lenny? |
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| 23:52.16 | H4z3 | (seeing as it has been removed from the repos) |
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| 23:52.33 | stew | H4z3: i failed when i tried and just gave up and used a gnome-panel instead |
| 23:52.37 | icebrain | ls |
| 23:52.41 | DeSian | stew: If you have to ask, you shouldn't. :) |
| 23:52.48 | H4z3 | stew: Doesn't that depend on gnome? heh |
| 23:52.52 | llimeht | DeSian: correct |
| 23:53.13 | stew | H4z3: yes |
| 23:53.20 | H4z3 | damnit |
| 23:53.26 | H4z3 | Gnome fails to install on this box |
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| 23:53.41 | stew | H4z3: you don't have to run a gnome-session, or install all of gnome, but you do have lots of gnome libraries with it |
| 23:53.47 | H4z3 | Yeah |
| 23:53.47 | llimeht | So many "xy problems", so little time. |
| 23:54.06 | asg | llimeht: may as well just get some zzzzzzzzzzzzs |
| 23:54.27 | H4z3 | stew: Just a shame I need bloated libs rather than something tiny like pypanel that leaves a small mem footprint |
| 23:55.14 | johndo | stew: aptitude is buggy, look at this: http://bugs.debian.org/514348 :) |
| 23:55.45 | streuner_ | !dbugs 514348 |
| 23:55.48 | dpkg | #514348:N[aptitude] aptitude fails to detect if a package is installable (); Fri, 06 Feb 2009 14:30:04 UTC [] |
| 23:56.26 | streuner_ | asg, huhu :-9 |
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| 23:56.49 | DeSian | johndo: aptitude != Bugy |
| 23:56.50 | llimeht | !dbugs 507905 |
| 23:56.57 | dpkg | DONE:#507905:N[ftp.debian.org] RM: pypanel -- RoQA; orphaned, dead upstream, buggy (); Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:48:02 UTC [] |
| 23:57.09 | H4z3 | heh |
| 23:57.11 | llimeht | H4z3: ^^ yeah, it's a real pity you can't use it... |
| 23:57.45 | H4z3 | And I cant install gnome, which is annoying, even though I don't really even like gnome. |
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| 23:58.37 | DeSian | !tell johndo about aptitude |