| 00:00.00 | g00se | themill: OK |
| 00:00.09 | nick4 | what does this mean? -- [ 7.677911] sda1 sda2 < sda5<3>end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 0 |
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| 00:00.30 | mns | I just got a Lacie 1TB firewire drive. |
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| 00:00.48 | Stilgar^ | mns: exactly. If you want to read this disk on a Windows machine using the ext2/ext3 drivers for it, you have to use a smaller Inode size (add -I 128) |
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| 00:01.05 | Stilgar^ | if not, just leave the defaults. |
| 00:01.13 | mns | don't have a windoze system .. |
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| 00:01.39 | mns | and if I do want to share it with a Windows system its going to be via Samba .. |
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| 00:04.09 | jpinx | doing what used to be a routine update/upgrade should I now do safe-upgrade or full-upgrade? |
| 00:04.44 | Zharf | safe-upgrade is upgrade |
| 00:05.19 | jpinx | ok - then what if full-upgrade? |
| 00:05.34 | stew | jpinx: what you know as dist-upgrade |
| 00:05.52 | jpinx | ah - ok - thanks stew |
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| 00:06.53 | stew | jpinx: 'safe-upgrade/full-upgrade' are easier to understand than "upgrade/dist-upgrade" for people not already familiar. |
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| 00:07.28 | synx | Hey any application that uses Tk has horrifying awful fonts. Anyone know how to fix? |
| 00:07.30 | stew | people are always thinking that dist-upgrade is only used for doing things like sarge->etch or testing->unstable |
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| 00:08.15 | jpinx | stew - yep. |
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| 00:09.37 | jpinx | hey liable - if anyone asks you in future - wifi-radar is a gui wireless manager which worked "out-of-the-box" for me. |
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| 00:10.24 | jpinx | and dropped itself into the ldxe menulist without a hiccup:) |
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| 00:10.57 | Pendrag0n | I haven't set up a debain box from scratch in many, many many years, |
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| 00:11.06 | Pendrag0n | a buddy just gave me one, and I need to lock her down |
| 00:11.22 | Pendrag0n | I am trying to remember which firewall is the common one so I can use aptitude to go install it |
| 00:11.28 | Pendrag0n | any suggestions |
| 00:11.55 | Stilgar^ | Pendrag0n: look for iptables wrappers |
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| 00:12.25 | Pendrag0n | well, I am trying to remember the name of the firewall software |
| 00:12.37 | nightglider28 | Pendrag0n: Firestarter. |
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| 00:13.42 | Stilgar^ | Pendrag0n: pardon me for not answering your question directly, but I usually run netstat to see if there are services that are listening on the external interface but shouldn't and modify them to listen on the internal interface or not listen at all. |
| 00:13.48 | Pendrag0n | nightglider, understand that this is a debain box accessed by a shell only, no GUI, isn't firestarter the gui for ubuntu to the actuall firewall? |
| 00:14.14 | nightglider28 | That changes things quite a bit. |
| 00:14.28 | Pendrag0n | Stilgar, thanks for reminding me to do that |
| 00:14.29 | nightglider28 | In that case, I'd go with Stilgar^. |
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| 00:15.40 | beware | i find i cannot use iptables REJECT --reject-with tcp-reset on debian, lenny, distro kernel |
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| 00:16.30 | Pendrag0n | yeah, I will run netstat |
| 00:16.46 | Pendrag0n | but there was an actuall firewall I used to run, and I can't remember what it was |
| 00:16.51 | kingsley | Which keys let the user step through the various desktop resolutions specified in Xwindows' configuration file? |
| 00:16.55 | Pendrag0n | it comes by default with the web install of debian |
| 00:17.04 | Amse | Hi. |
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| 00:17.07 | abrotman | kingsley: man xrandr i think is what you want |
| 00:17.08 | Pendrag0n | but the guy who gave me this debian box, had just a blank debian install |
| 00:17.18 | abrotman | Pendrag0n: less enter key please |
| 00:17.31 | ahlala | hello |
| 00:17.53 | Pendrag0n | so I had to install bind, apache2, vim-full, and many other things myself. Now if I could just remember the name of debians firewall, I could use aptitude to install it and start configuring it |
| 00:18.04 | stew | Pendrag0n: debian wouldn't come by default with any firewall |
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| 00:18.24 | Stilgar^ | Pendrag0n: apt-cache search firewall? |
| 00:18.27 | pipeline | kingsley: ctrl alt +\- |
| 00:18.28 | stew | Pendrag0n: there is "iptables" as the standard command line interface to the firewall built into the linux kernel (named netfilter) |
| 00:18.47 | ahlala | there is a program, called arno's iptable firewall rules, perhaps could help? |
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| 00:19.02 | ahlala | this is very simple |
| 00:19.11 | Stilgar^ | I agree with stew - I know it sounds annoying, but for few simple rules you may be better off setting up the rules yourself using iptables. |
| 00:19.23 | kingsley | pipeline: OK, thanks. |
| 00:19.27 | stew | Pendrag0n: if you have debtags installed, you could run "aptitude search '~Gsecurity::firewall' " to get a list of firewall packages |
| 00:19.38 | ahlala | agree with Stilgar^ |
| 00:19.55 | Pendrag0n | yeah, I've just used aptitude to search it, I found those, well two results, but neither of those "strike" me as what I used to use, maybe the one I used to use isn't a maintained a package anymore |
| 00:20.11 | Pendrag0n | stew, I do, and I did |
| 00:20.14 | ahlala | try "arno" |
| 00:20.41 | Pendrag0n | ahlala, I know, and I might get stuck with it, I was just hoping to remember which one I've used in the past |
| 00:21.11 | ahlala | oki Pendra0n |
| 00:21.29 | stoned | tagging kicks ass |
| 00:21.49 | ahlala | got a question about ipcop |
| 00:22.04 | pipeline | kingsley: no reason to do it that way anymore, though - use xrandr |
| 00:22.31 | pipeline | kingsley: if your graphics driver supports it (and almost all of them do) you can dynamically query the monitors and resolutions available and turn monitors on/off, change resolution etc |
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| 00:22.54 | Pendrag0n | AHA!!!! SHOREWALL! |
| 00:23.05 | Pendrag0n | I remembered! |
| 00:23.05 | ahlala | i got problem with snort |
| 00:23.12 | Pendrag0n | what's that? |
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| 00:23.46 | ahlala | Pendrag0n i know.. ;) shorewall.. great.. |
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| 00:24.50 | ahlala | this is simple for some people, ipcop, i implement that, the problem is that snort is not updated since a few months, and i don't understand why... |
| 00:25.44 | Stilgar^ | did apt-cache search find that for you? |
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| 00:25.51 | Pendrag0n | ahlala: excuse my ignorance, I haven't managed a deb box in about 3 years, remind me what snort is and how that will affect me using shorewall lite ? |
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| 00:26.14 | Pendrag0n | Stiglar: I remebered it, it was Shorewall |
| 00:26.20 | ahlala | snort is an ids |
| 00:26.24 | dondelelcaro | ahlala: it's been updated in unstable recently and experimental as well |
| 00:26.29 | Pendrag0n | is there a way in IRC to not see those damn discconect and reconnect messages? |
| 00:26.38 | ahlala | sorry |
| 00:26.45 | dondelelcaro | Pendrag0n: depends on your IRC client. In irssi, /ignore JOIN PARTS QUITS |
| 00:26.50 | jpinx | Pendrag0n: yes - depending on your client |
| 00:26.56 | Pendrag0n | I'll try thanks guys |
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| 00:27.13 | Pendrag0n | nope, unknown command, I am using pigion |
| 00:27.17 | [ROSEdu]AlexJ | hello...i have a strange sound problem... |
| 00:27.47 | [ROSEdu]AlexJ | everything worked fine, then i restarted the system...now, i have no sound exce[t in amarok... |
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| 00:27.59 | dondelelcaro | Pendrag0n: then you'll have to consult pidgin's documentation |
| 00:27.59 | Pendrag0n | Ok, I am getting the same perl error every time I install anything in aptitude, I've seen it before, I've fixed it before it is 8 lines long |
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| 00:28.08 | [ROSEdu]AlexJ | if i open the sound setting and try to use ALSA, it says it cannot acces device... |
| 00:28.11 | Pendrag0n | WTF? |
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| 00:28.29 | [ROSEdu]AlexJ | any ideeas? |
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| 00:28.30 | Pendrag0n | I am going to paste it here real quick |
| 00:28.33 | jpinx | Pendrag0n: so am I and i got rid of them - can't remember how though |
| 00:28.34 | Pendrag0n | if that is ok |
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| 00:28.47 | dondelelcaro | Pendrag0n: use a paste site |
| 00:28.48 | Pendrag0n | it is only 8 lines |
| 00:28.56 | Pendrag0n | really?> just for 8 lines? |
| 00:28.59 | dondelelcaro | Pendrag0n: yes. |
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| 00:29.16 | dondelelcaro | Pendrag0n: see /topic |
| 00:29.20 | Pendrag0n | geeze, this room wasn't such a tight ass room back when I was an admin |
| 00:29.23 | Pendrag0n | I know, I know |
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| 00:29.33 | Pendrag0n | I used to be a moderator of this room 5 years ago |
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| 00:29.44 | dondelelcaro | Pendrag0n: maybe on some other network, but not here |
| 00:29.57 | Pendrag0n | yes here, just a different screen name then |
| 00:29.59 | Pavlz | hello |
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| 00:30.09 | jpinx | Pendrag0n: get the plug in to block joins/parts |
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| 00:30.31 | dondelelcaro | uh... highly unlikely, because you'd know who I am, then, and presumably, I'd know who you were |
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| 00:31.01 | Pendrag0n | dondelelcarlo: LordMacro ring a bell? |
| 00:31.08 | dondelelcaro | Pendrag0n: not on this network |
| 00:31.28 | Pendrag0n | http://pastebin.com/m2a423a5f Ok, I remember I've fixed this before, any ideas? |
| 00:31.51 | Pavlz | i readed the news about ZFS |
| 00:32.13 | dondelelcaro | Pendrag0n: dpkg-reconfigure locales; and build en_US and en_GB.UTF-8 |
| 00:32.19 | Pavlz | there is interest to integrate ZFS in linux |
| 00:32.43 | abrotman | no kidding ... |
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| 00:33.03 | Pavlz | how could be possible if they have two different types of licenses ? |
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| 00:33.27 | abrotman | maybe you should ask #zfs |
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| 00:35.54 | MrFahrenheit | I have a lenny with a dhcpd3 and two nics, one is dynamic and one is supposed to be static |
| 00:35.57 | marcot | Hello, cron is mailing me in each run of a scheduled command. |
| 00:36.02 | marcot | Is there a way to disable it? |
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| 00:36.23 | MrFahrenheit | but the static one leases an ip from the dhcp server on the actual host, how do I prevent that |
| 00:36.24 | dondelelcaro | marcot: fix the command not to mail you, or man 5 crontab; and read about MAILTO |
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| 00:36.49 | Pendrag0n | brb |
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| 00:37.42 | marcot | dondelelcaro: thanks, I was looking at man 1 crontab. |
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| 00:38.02 | celeritas | is there any documentation on converting ext3 to ext4? |
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| 00:39.39 | MrFahrenheit | /etc/network/interfaces reads "iface eth1 inet static" and an address is in there but the interface still changes ips after 10 minutes |
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| 00:41.23 | mns | I just created a swap partition and added the line "/dev/sda2 none swap sw 0 0" to my /etc/fstab file. When I now do a 'swapon -a' I get the following: "swapon: /dev/sda2: Invalid argument". I've got another partition /dev/hda6 which is also a swap partition and the line is the exact same as above, and that works just fine. |
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| 00:44.30 | dondelelcaro | mns: have you run mkswap? |
| 00:44.42 | dondelelcaro | mns: also, check dmesg |
| 00:45.01 | mns | dondelelcaro: duh!! forgot about mkswap ... thanks. |
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| 00:46.33 | mns | dondelelcaro: yup that fixed it. Thanks. |
| 00:48.33 | dondelelcaro | mns: check out dmesg too; it would have clued you in to what the problem was |
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| 00:49.15 | Winnipeg_Guy | Hi... I've got a mystery partition I know nothing about. I created the partitions myself. I created a 20GB space for windows, where I installed Xp. Then a 5GB space for debian and a 1Gb swap. Finally, I made the rest ntfs data partition to be shared. I did this in gparted. Now, however, in debian when I fdisk -l this is what I see... http://pastebin.com/d7cb8b1eb |
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| 00:50.45 | module000 | Winnipeg_Guy: why isn't your sda1 NTFS if it's for windows? |
| 00:50.58 | Pendrag0n | O SNAP! F$#@k!!!! I just got a FATAL-> Failed to fork terminate called after throwing an instance of 'AssertionFailure' while trying to run aptitude... I was trying to install Mysql-server |
| 00:51.00 | abrotman | Winnipeg_Guy: do you own an HP/Dell/megamartfoopc ? |
| 00:51.05 | Pendrag0n | any ideas what just happened and how to fix it |
| 00:51.15 | Winnipeg_Guy | abrotman: It's an HP. |
| 00:51.17 | Pendrag0n | Ouch! Got SIGABRT, dying.. Aborted |
| 00:51.27 | abrotman | Winnipeg_Guy: might be your system restore partiton |
| 00:51.40 | Winnipeg_Guy | As I look at it more closely... it seems sda1 and sda7 are identical... maybe fdisk is simply confused. |
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| 00:51.56 | module000 | Pendrag0n: does it say anything else? like "DynMM" anywhere? or use the word "memory"? |
| 00:52.26 | Winnipeg_Guy | cfdisk shows an empty partition at the front of the disk... 0.04MB free space. |
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| 00:52.45 | Pendrag0n | nope |
| 00:52.52 | module000 | Pendrag0n: pastebin please |
| 00:52.55 | Linuturk | thanks for debian 5 |
| 00:52.57 | Linuturk | I'm on it now |
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| 00:53.07 | Pendrag0n | ok |
| 00:53.21 | Winnipeg_Guy | Actually.. the story with cfdisk is even stranger... http://pastebin.com/d6fbdd0d1 |
| 00:54.00 | module000 | Winnipeg_Guy: that first one is probably your manufacturers "rescue" or diagnostics partition, my HP had one i recall |
| 00:54.16 | Pendrag0n | here is a screen shot |
| 00:54.17 | Pendrag0n | http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/ikilledyourmom/fuck.jpg |
| 00:54.25 | module000 | Winnipeg_Guy: cfdisk shows what you described in your setup, sans the initial 0.04mb bit |
| 00:54.39 | Pendrag0n | any ideas guys? |
| 00:54.52 | Pendrag0n | cause um, that is really bad. if I can't continue setting up my box |
| 00:54.52 | module000 | Pendrag0n: do it with "apt-get", or else tell aptitude to be more verbose |
| 00:55.09 | Winnipeg_Guy | I guess I'll fire up my gparted live disk and see what the story is there....maybe try and recover some of that lost space... my main concern was that this was a hidden root kit or something... since this is a custom partition after flattening (dban zeros) the disk. |
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| 00:55.42 | Pendrag0n | module000: I did "aptitude -v" then hit U for update, and bam, same screen, no additional info |
| 00:56.02 | module000 | Pendrag0n: please do it with apt-get and pastebin the full output |
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| 00:56.49 | Pendrag0n | ok, hey is there a way of using apt-get to do a system update? |
| 00:56.56 | module000 | apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
| 00:56.56 | Pendrag0n | just like aptitude, then pressing U? |
| 00:57.00 | Pendrag0n | ok |
| 00:57.01 | Pendrag0n | thanks |
| 00:57.09 | jpinx | anyone know what the compression is when using squashfs and does lenny have native support? |
| 00:57.25 | Pendrag0n | odd it seems to be working when I use apt-get install -V mysql-server |
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| 00:57.37 | module000 | Pendrag0n: are you using a virtual dedicated server with low ram? |
| 00:58.02 | Pendrag0n | possible |
| 00:58.08 | Pendrag0n | I don't even know |
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| 00:58.59 | module000 | Pendrag0n: sounds like you are runningout of memory, what is the output of "free | grep Mem" |
| 00:59.36 | abrotman | that's not accurate at all |
| 00:59.48 | module000 | but it's accurate enought o tell us if he has a 64MB vps or not |
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| 01:00.25 | Pendrag0n | dondelelcaro: can you be more specific on how to do the "dpkg-reconfigure locales; and build en_US and en_GB.UTF-8" ? |
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| 01:00.51 | abrotman | Pendrag0n: run dpkg-reconfigure locales .. then choose en_US and en_GB.UTF-8 from the list |
| 01:01.39 | Pendrag0n | ok, the new error from installing mysql-server http://pastebin.com/d676e2f95 |
| 01:01.49 | Pendrag0n | sorry, but my screen doesn't go back that far |
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| 01:03.13 | Pendrag0n | Also, as if I didn't have enough problems, http://pastebin.com/d4e540a20 was wha happened when I tried that dpkg thing |
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| 01:04.03 | SzArAk | hi |
| 01:05.33 | Pendrag0n | aha, I figured out the locales bug |
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| 01:05.48 | Pendrag0n | ok, now just to figure out why the mysq-server won't install |
| 01:05.51 | kitemmurt | hello everyone |
| 01:06.03 | Pendrag0n | heh, all fixed on that too I think |
| 01:06.15 | kitemmurt | if i wanna create an ad-hoc connection through wifi interfaces |
| 01:06.17 | SzArAk | is pdflush supposed to access my disk often? every 2-4 seconds pdflush and/or kjournald write some data on my hdd. i can see it clearly on dstat, or iotop script, even thought i disabled swap space at all. |
| 01:06.21 | Pendrag0n | I had my .bashrc fucked up in my /root/.bashrc it had garbage in it |
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| 01:06.24 | kitemmurt | should i configure iptables? |
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| 01:06.50 | SzArAk | why is it writing that data? |
| 01:07.12 | abrotman | kitemmurt: not sure that's really related |
| 01:07.18 | Pendrag0n | module000: in aptidude, what does the "C" flag mean? does it mean confilicted? |
| 01:07.19 | SzArAk | kitemmurt: no iptables usage is requeried for such connection. |
| 01:07.22 | dmarkey | how can i report a bug in a package?# |
| 01:07.45 | dondelelcaro | !tell dmarkey -about reportbug |
| 01:07.49 | abrotman | !tell dmarkey about reportbug |
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| 01:08.42 | kitemmurt | up for the punx! |
| 01:08.44 | damjan | sorry that I'm a bit ignorant, but what was the resolution of the firmware issue? |
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| 01:09.12 | damjan | especially, since I do netboot installs on servers with bnx2 network devices |
| 01:09.19 | dondelelcaro | damjan: which firmware issue? |
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| 01:09.47 | damjan | dondelelcaro: there was an issue about firmware files in lenny |
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| 01:09.59 | Pendrag0n | Ok, I am confused and scared, I just uninstalled the corrupt mysql server, so that I could re-install it |
| 01:10.14 | Pendrag0n | in doing that it asked me to configure my samba. I don't want samba running. Any ideas? |
| 01:10.21 | Pendrag0n | why it stated to install samba? |
| 01:10.30 | dondelelcaro | damjan: it's non-free, but you can put it on a usb key and load it, or otherwise modify your netinst image to include it |
| 01:11.04 | damjan | dondelelcaro: ok, so that's what I need to do.. no problem hacking the initrd is not hard |
| 01:11.29 | jhutchins | Is there a way to deal with config file update questions automatically during an upgrade? |
| 01:11.36 | dondelelcaro | damjan: see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/NetbootFirmware if you need more info |
| 01:11.44 | dondelelcaro | jhutchins: yes, man dpkg; read about --force-conf*; options |
| 01:12.03 | jhutchins | dondelelcaro: Thanks! |
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| 01:12.30 | SzArAk | anyone got any hints on pdflush issue? |
| 01:12.40 | themill | Which packages ship (or generate) the /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/modules.pcimap file? |
| 01:13.03 | SzArAk | themill: apt-file search; man apt-file |
| 01:13.06 | abrotman | heh |
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| 01:13.20 | themill | SzArAk: thanks... also unhelpful. |
| 01:13.27 | damjan | dondelelcaro: thanks... I was always curious about the possibility to use more than one initramfs image |
| 01:14.05 | Pendrag0n | Ok, I've got most of the box fixed, here is my last problem : http://pastebin.com/da62d55c |
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| 01:15.38 | careta1 | hey people i have a cron job, how do i run it without being root? |
| 01:16.03 | Pendrag0n | careta1: su to the user you want to run the cron ass |
| 01:16.04 | abrotman | crontab -e |
| 01:16.07 | Pendrag0n | as* sorry |
| 01:16.12 | Pendrag0n | then just type crontab -e |
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| 01:17.00 | jhutchins | dondelelcaro: Hm, no options when upgrading w/aptitude as recommended? |
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| 01:17.26 | dondelelcaro | themill: depmod should |
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| 01:17.35 | dondelelcaro | themill: and it gets run as a consequence of installing the kernel |
| 01:17.51 | dondelelcaro | jhutchins: man aptitude; and read about the -o option and DPkg::Options:: |
| 01:18.25 | themill | dondelelcaro: ahh... so there's no way of extracting that pcimap information without installing the actual package? |
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| 01:19.08 | themill | dondelelcaro: (I though depmod only made the modules.dep file) |
| 01:20.08 | qwerasdf | anyone know how i could use iceweasel and firefox independently? |
| 01:20.23 | qwerasdf | should i just install iceweasel in /home/me |
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| 01:20.50 | qwerasdf | and change the install target? |
| 01:21.00 | dondelelcaro | themill: it used to, but now creates anything that needs to be extracted from modules, iirc. |
| 01:21.19 | Winnipeg_Guy | ok... I found and recovered the lost partitions, but I am still faced with fdisk teling me that 3 of my 4 don't end on a cylinder boundary. Is this a big deal? Will problems arise? I'd hate to have to back up my 50GB data partitio just to fix this. |
| 01:21.24 | dondelelcaro | themill: the information is in the modules themselves |
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| 01:22.29 | Gumby | dondelelcaro, I was asking earlier about config file prompts when creating a .deb. You said that it should prompt for a config file automatically. What flags a file as a config file though? Is this something in the package source, does it go by file extension, or is it something else? |
| 01:22.39 | Pendrag0n | dondelecaro, I can't seem to get mysql-server installed, did you see the error? |
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| 01:23.16 | jhutchins | dondelelcaro: Sorry, not finding any reference to the DPkg::Options... |
| 01:23.59 | module000 | Pendrag0n: did you ever tell us if you were working with low memory? |
| 01:25.00 | themill | dondelelcaro: yeah, depmod does it. That's a bit of a shame for what I was trying to do.... I'll think about plan B tomorrow then. cheers. |
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| 01:25.11 | Panarchy | says hi |
| 01:25.18 | abrotman | !any idea |
| 01:25.19 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a drawer full of condoms, a little WD-40, and 42 three-legged bunnies. And keep the cops off my back for the next few minutes! |
| 01:25.19 | module000 | pendragon: most "failed to fork" i've seen in apt is your APT::Cache-Limit being too low, or you running out of memory |
| 01:25.25 | abrotman | themill: dpkg will help! |
| 01:25.32 | Pendrag0n | module000 no, memory looks good. |
| 01:25.37 | jhutchins | dondelelcaro: n'mind, a bit o'th' google helped. |
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| 01:25.40 | kitemmurt | panarchy |
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| 01:25.50 | kitemmurt | do u listen sex pistols |
| 01:25.52 | themill | abrotman: hmm.... as ever! |
| 01:25.56 | kitemmurt | Panarchy in the UK |
| 01:25.57 | Deeboy | Does anyone know a page where I can find all USA ADSL IP Ranges? |
| 01:25.58 | kitemmurt | :D |
| 01:26.00 | Pendrag0n | root@hedebian init.d # free || total used free shared buffers cached || Mem: 131072 27248 103824 0 0 0 || -/+ buffers/cache: 27248 103824 || Swap: 0 0 0 |
| 01:26.03 | Pendrag0n | see |
| 01:26.04 | Winnipeg_Guy | Since I am able to read and write to these partitions without problems, my inclination is to ignore the warnings about cylinder boundaries... I can't find anything online about whether this will create problems down the road. |
| 01:26.43 | module000 | Pendrag0n: so after you resolved your locales issue, what is apt-get failing to do with mysqld? (pastebin) |
| 01:26.47 | qwerasdf | /var/lib/dpkg is where deb installs to, right? |
| 01:26.55 | dondelelcaro | qwerasdf: no |
| 01:27.10 | qwerasdf | /etc/apt/some/other/place |
| 01:27.16 | qwerasdf | ? |
| 01:27.25 | qwerasdf | !dpkg |
| 01:27.25 | dpkg | hmm... dpkg is the program used by debian to install and remove packages, "man dpkg". Also ask me about <apt howto>. The main info bot in #debian is also called dpkg; ask me about <dpkgbot>. |
| 01:27.37 | dondelelcaro | it installs to --root-dir, which is almost always /, unless you're doing something insane. |
| 01:27.45 | qwerasdf | lol |
| 01:27.48 | Panarchy | What is the easiest way to create a .deb package? I need one that can include: -That I am the maintainer of the package- | -A description (and name) of the package- | -The version of the package/tool- | -And any dependencies the packages needs to be installed- |
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| 01:28.04 | dondelelcaro | Panarchy: what do you want to do with the .deb package? |
| 01:28.11 | qwerasdf | ok, but where does it check for conflicts and dependencies? |
| 01:28.25 | qwerasdf | for instance, i'm attempting to use iceweasel and firefox |
| 01:28.49 | qwerasdf | and am about to force it, but am afraid something atrocious will happen |
| 01:29.06 | Panarchy | dondelelcaro: I know of about 70-120 source files that need packaging. So I want to create the .deb for them myself |
| 01:29.06 | dondelelcaro | qwerasdf: so don't do that. If for some reason you want to install both at the same time, unpack one in /usr/local or some other location. |
| 01:29.21 | dondelelcaro | Panarchy: then read the NM guide; it explains how to make Debian packages |
| 01:29.28 | dondelelcaro | !tell Panarchy -about nm guide |
| 01:29.48 | qwerasdf | dondelelcaro, so -admin-dir /usr/local ? |
| 01:29.49 | Panarchy | ? |
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| 01:30.01 | qwerasdf | or just --install-dir |
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| 01:30.26 | dondelelcaro | qwerasdf: just use dpkg-deb and unpack it. |
| 01:30.32 | Pendrag0n | module000: I already pasted it : http://pastebin.com/da62d55c |
| 01:30.41 | qwerasdf | ok |
| 01:30.48 | Pendrag0n | or,... root@hedebian init.d # /etc/init.d/mysql start |
| 01:30.48 | Pendrag0n | Starting MySQL database server: mysqld . . . . . . . . . . . . . . failed! |
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| 01:31.44 | module000 | pendrag0n:read the log, mysql will tell you why it failed |
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| 01:31.48 | qwerasdf | dondelelcaro, dpkg-deb -x /usr/local mypkg, right? |
| 01:32.16 | module000 | Pendrag0n: what i said earlier, the pastebin tells you that you are out of memory |
| 01:32.22 | qwerasdf | -x mypkg /usr/local |
| 01:32.53 | dondelelcaro | qwerasdf: I'd actually suggest dpkg-deb -x mypkg /usr/local/mypkg; and then symlink the things that you need in, but that's a reasonable approach. |
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| 01:33.03 | qwerasdf | crap |
| 01:33.05 | qwerasdf | i jjust did it |
| 01:33.14 | module000 | Pendrag0n: you can still run it, you just have to make some changes. like innoDB for instance. more at http://tinyurl.com/6kj9wr |
| 01:33.34 | Pendrag0n | module000: the mysql.log and mysql.err are empty |
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| 01:33.44 | Pendrag0n | I am just trying to install the server |
| 01:33.50 | Pendrag0n | not even run a database yet |
| 01:34.00 | module000 | it's the database engine that is using up your memory |
| 01:34.08 | qwerasdf | so, you're saying just run it as a completely independent package? |
| 01:34.11 | enouf | Pendrag0n: there won't be, as it hasn't started even, the mmap() failed |
| 01:34.21 | module000 | Pendrag0n: that's why it's not starting, you need to look at the URL i pasted |
| 01:34.29 | module000 | it explains how to modify your config to use much lower-overhead Db engines |
| 01:35.27 | cafuego | Is there anyone here with a 32bit Lenny box who can spare 15 minutes or so and try to replicate a compiler bug for me by compiling a custom MySQL package? |
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| 01:35.43 | riot | hey there |
| 01:35.54 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: does the error happen in a 32bit chroot? |
| 01:36.04 | cafuego | dondelelcaro: 32bit KVM |
| 01:36.04 | kitemmurt | hi riot |
| 01:36.10 | kitemmurt | all punx here |
| 01:36.12 | kitemmurt | ? |
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| 01:36.33 | riot | is debuild smart enough to use compiler optimizations or do i have to pass them on my own? |
| 01:36.34 | cafuego | dondelelcaro: The Xen VM isn't done yet, but I suspect it's past the first problem point already |
| 01:37.43 | cafuego | dondelelcaro: I've tried the 2.6.26-1-486 kernel and -amd64 kernel on 32bit (Phenom box) and both fail identically. The 64bit VM is fine. |
| 01:38.06 | Pendrag0n | alright module000: and the rest of you guys, I am contacting the people who host this box |
| 01:38.10 | Pendrag0n | it uses LXADMIN |
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| 01:38.41 | Pendrag0n | I have web admin over the box via lxadmin. I am going to try to contact their help desk over this memory error |
| 01:38.56 | Pendrag0n | I should have 4 gig of mem availalbe, but obvously don't |
| 01:39.05 | Pendrag0n | I'm out for now, thanks for your help guys |
| 01:39.11 | cafuego | Yup, on the Xen box it compiles just fine. |
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| 01:40.12 | enouf | cafuego: it has to be a new lenny? or can it be some twisted mix of etch/lenny/squeeze ? :-P |
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| 01:40.29 | cafuego | enouf: Mine's brand new... |
| 01:40.39 | cafuego | enouf: if you wanna give it a go though.... |
| 01:40.49 | enouf | cafuego: you've tried the -486 how about the -686? |
| 01:41.04 | enouf | cafuego: sure - let me at it! |
| 01:41.11 | cafuego | enouf: Not tried 686 actually |
| 01:41.43 | enouf | cafuego: the -486 isn;t SMP aware and has CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM=y set .. and other diffs |
| 01:42.12 | enouf | atleast - AFAIR |
| 01:42.50 | cafuego | enouf: it's a VM with 512Mb and a single core, that shouldn't matter imnsho ;-) |
| 01:43.30 | enouf | cafuego: sounds like my setup- but not a VM :-P got a p2 here with 512M and a .26-1-686 kernel :-) |
| 01:43.41 | unlocksmith | I upgraded to Debian GNU/Linux 5.0. squirrelmail/apache2/php5/courier-imap/exim4. Everything works fine except webmail login password takes long time and eventually works. I turned off FAM. Fiddled with every option I can think of. Any clues? |
| 01:44.08 | enouf | unlocksmith: try killing avahi-deamon |
| 01:44.17 | unlocksmith | enouf: trying |
| 01:45.04 | enouf | unlocksmith: but - you might need to play with /etc/nsswitch.conf .. the line --> hosts: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4 |
| 01:45.13 | enouf | remove the mdns refs |
| 01:45.15 | unlocksmith | nothing related to avahi is runing or installed |
| 01:45.27 | unlocksmith | checing nsswitch.conf |
| 01:45.29 | enouf | unlocksmith: any netatalk or anything? |
| 01:45.39 | cafuego | enouf: You can grab the source package from http://mirror.ourdelta.org/deb/dists/etch/ourdelta/ |
| 01:45.49 | enouf | cafuego: ok |
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| 01:46.09 | unlocksmith | enouf: just "files dns". looks Ok |
| 01:46.41 | enouf | hrm.. |
| 01:46.54 | unlocksmith | telneting to 143 works OK. Thunderbird works OK. Just squirrelmail login is slow |
| 01:47.05 | unlocksmith | it was working well before the upgrade |
| 01:47.31 | enouf | unlocksmith: i'm using old thoughts and things i recall - that's really all i recall though .. some authentication is taking longer than it should? |
| 01:47.40 | enouf | well |
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| 01:47.55 | unlocksmith | enouf: its just using authmap module in courier authdaemonrc |
| 01:48.02 | enouf | upgrading installs new versions, etc .. could be most anything |
| 01:48.19 | enouf | unlocksmith: can you make verbose? strace it? |
| 01:48.54 | unlocksmith | it used to complain about FAM. I uninstalled everything related to FAM. Enhanced-idle is off in courier-imap |
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| 01:49.36 | unlocksmith | it looks like only login from php is slow. any idea how to debug php? |
| 01:49.39 | jpinx | I'm looking for a compatible read/write compressed filesystem that is natively supported in Lenny - is there such a thing? |
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| 01:52.31 | jpinx | I see a combination of unionfs and squashfs as a possibility - anyone any experience of this? |
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| 01:53.25 | martyn-dev | Hi :D |
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| 01:54.05 | martyn-dev | I need convert a csv file to excel with some command or program fast and light .. do you know some ? |
| 01:55.19 | unlocksmith | martyn-dev: just open in openoffice and save as xls |
| 01:55.37 | kitemmurt | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOLSpMwHMGI |
| 01:56.01 | jpinx | martyn-dev: what application needs a .xls file that can't open a .csv file? |
| 01:56.04 | martyn-dev | unlocksmith: but i dont have desktop environment.. |
| 01:56.16 | martyn-dev | is a server with command line only debian |
| 01:56.23 | martyn-dev | csv to xls |
| 01:57.04 | jpinx | martyn-dev: what are you trying to do with the file after you convert it - if you only have command line? |
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| 01:57.16 | ceil420 | martyn-dev, copy the file to a desktop and convert it there |
| 01:57.23 | abrotman | kitemmurt: try #debian-offtopic |
| 01:57.36 | johnyf | overflow tmpfs 1.0M 28K 996K 3% /tmp |
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| 01:57.40 | martyn-dev | I need do it on server ceil420 .. |
| 01:57.44 | johnyf | I can't isntall something cause my tmp is toosmall |
| 01:57.48 | martyn-dev | automatic.. every dayç |
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| 01:57.54 | ceil420 | ah |
| 01:57.57 | martyn-dev | kitemmurt: :p |
| 01:57.58 | johnyf | how can I fix that? |
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| 01:58.18 | ceil420 | OOo needs some cli utils :p |
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| 01:58.52 | sivel | hey guys...what is the gnome app for changing the video driver and monitor layout. At one point I had an icon for something like "Screens and Graphics" but not anymore |
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| 01:59.28 | johnyf | I am trying to extract a file and it says no space left on device because my temp is 1mb |
| 01:59.31 | johnyf | overflow tmpfs 1.0M 28K 996K 3% /tmp |
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| 02:01.05 | enouf | cafuego: so, the only reference to adding the key is in /etc/apt/trusted.gpg ? |
| 02:01.24 | damjan | johnyf: why do you have so small /tmp?? |
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| 02:01.32 | damjan | johnyf: increase it |
| 02:01.39 | johnyf | how? |
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| 02:01.48 | johnyf | Idk happened after dist-upgrade to lenny |
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| 02:02.14 | damjan | umount /tmp; mount -t tmpfs overflow /tmp |
| 02:02.22 | johnyf | it wont unmount |
| 02:02.28 | Panarchy | I just posted a question about the automation of .deb package creation here: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=35860 |
| 02:02.31 | damjan | by default it should be half your ram size |
| 02:02.45 | damjan | johnyf: lsof /tmp |
| 02:02.53 | johnyf | killed those already |
| 02:02.57 | johnyf | still wont unmount |
| 02:02.58 | damjan | johnyf: close whatever hsa open files there |
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| 02:03.28 | damjan | thats strange then |
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| 02:03.40 | enouf | cafuego: i just have trouble when i d/l 2k+ of something and have no idea where it went ;-) |
| 02:03.43 | enouf | 20:46:39 (1.01 MB/s) - `-' saved [2413/2413] |
| 02:03.58 | BruninhO | Good evening friends, someone would tell me where I find the package python-gconf (if that is the name) or the source? |
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| 02:05.47 | squisher | hey, is by chance someone around who has a cdrom/dvdrom (can't burn) and has hal running? |
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| 02:07.37 | BruninhO | Good evening friends, someone would tell me where I find the package python-gconf (if that is the name) or the source? |
| 02:07.53 | squisher | BruninhO, checked on packages.debian.org ? |
| 02:07.57 | riot | where does debian-builder put the completed packages? |
| 02:08.21 | BruninhO | squisher: yes, not found anything. |
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| 02:09.10 | abrotman | checked on google ? |
| 02:09.36 | BruninhO | abrotman: yes |
| 02:09.53 | squisher | all I need are the hal properties of an optical drive which is not capable of burning... noone around to help me out? |
| 02:11.16 | bbelt16ag | I was wondering I got large files to move and I just found this awesome program called pv on the cli. I was wondering is there way I can use it with my mv command to show a time remaing on my moving files on the cli?? |
| 02:12.27 | Gumby | can anyone tell me what defines which filenames get put into /var/lib/dpkg/info/package_name.conffiles when a package is installed |
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| 02:14.53 | null_ | Question: Logwatch seems to be ignoring my /etc/logwatch/logwatch.conf; Anyone know of a way to troubleshoot this/force specify a config file? |
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| 02:15.25 | TimothyA | is there a way to roll back an entire distro? |
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| 02:19.25 | bbelt16ag | hey what's the package for midnight commander I need to try it out.. |
| 02:19.46 | craigevil | bbelt16ag: mc |
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| 02:21.37 | cafuego | enouf: Sorry... if you fetch the .tar.gz and/or .dsc manually you can just use dpkg-source on them; no need to get the key. |
| 02:22.19 | craigevil | !downgrade |
| 02:22.19 | dpkg | methinks downgrade is not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later, and package maintainer scripts provide ways to upgrade to new config file formats but not ways to downgrade. You can always try to downgrade a package using dpkg -i <olderversion.deb>. Also see <partial downgrade>, or <sdn> |
| 02:22.36 | enouf | cafuego: oh well, didn't need to add any key and sources.list to grab the source .. |
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| 02:23.07 | bbelt16ag | .... |
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| 02:24.39 | magyar | hi, what is "5.0.0-live" ? |
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| 02:24.58 | liable | the live cd? |
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| 02:26.10 | magyar | liable: there is a bunch of iso's there for i386 and amd |
| 02:27.06 | abrotman | and they're live cds |
| 02:27.58 | VieQ | Hi all, I know that this has been asked many times |
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| 02:28.23 | VieQ | Why Debian and Not Ubuntu?, is it a technical thing? |
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| 02:28.49 | KDE4000 | apt-get updated && apt-get upgrade <--- these should upgrade to 5.0 right? |
| 02:28.51 | VieQ | Self preference ?, philosophical reasons? |
| 02:29.07 | KDE4000 | cause i did my updates and now "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables" |
| 02:29.09 | liable | KDE4000: /msg dpkg lenny release notes |
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| 02:29.25 | liable | !b-e KDE4000 |
| 02:29.25 | dpkg | KDE4000: Sounds like you need to aptitude install build-essential. |
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| 02:29.51 | VieQ | I just wish to hear a cut off reason |
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| 02:30.28 | liable | VieQ: /msg dpkg why debian |
| 02:30.29 | maher | how do i look at the same document in two different windows with evince? |
| 02:30.29 | KDE4000 | i dont want to upgrade to lenny |
| 02:30.42 | liable | huh? |
| 02:30.51 | liable | then why did you mention 5.0 ?? |
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| 02:31.01 | KDE4000 | cause i was afraid it had updated to that |
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| 02:31.10 | KDE4000 | gcc was working before i did my apt upgrade |
| 02:31.16 | bbelt16ag | sigh not exsactly what I wanted can I get mc to put up progress bars when I move something? |
| 02:31.35 | KDE4000 | http://pastebin.com/d65b68d21 |
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| 02:31.50 | VieQ | ok, thanks liable |
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| 02:32.05 | error4o4 | I moved a website from a suse box to a debian box.. my old html templates have some western european characters (windows-1250).. but on the new server i'm getting only black boxes instead of the chars.. tried uploading the templates from local computer but same.. any idea? |
| 02:32.09 | KDE4000 | gcc 4.3 ... grr |
| 02:32.26 | KDE4000 | i updated mysql and that most have pulled all that stuff in |
| 02:32.28 | KDE4000 | :( |
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| 02:33.31 | KDE4000 | aptitude [0.4.4-4 (now) -> 0.4.11.11-1~lenny1 (stable)] |
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| 02:33.37 | KDE4000 | its attemping to upgrade to lenny |
| 02:33.47 | KDE4000 | that is *NOT* what i want |
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| 02:34.07 | KDE4000 | so half of system is debian lenny and half etch... during runtime |
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| 02:35.45 | enouf | cafuego: i ran dpkg-source -x mysql...dsc and now cd'd into the resultant mysql-dfsg-5.0-5.0.67-d7/ dir .. any special ./configure options you want me to set? . or |
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| 02:37.20 | ceil420 | do i just have to do `wodim dev=/dev/scd0 somefile.iso' to burn a LiveCD to disc? |
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| 02:38.04 | nightglider28 | thwaps enouf . |
| 02:38.06 | nightglider28 | hides. |
| 02:38.07 | maher | KDE4000: what did you do? |
| 02:38.11 | KDE4000 | how can i revert everything to 4.0? |
| 02:38.17 | GregoryMcPants | I've got a bunch of files I copied from a different server, and they end in filename.ext? (a question mark at the end), and when I try any 'serve' the files through apache, they give a '404' |
| 02:38.20 | GregoryMcPants | What's going on? |
| 02:38.23 | KDE4000 | maher: i updated mysql... |
| 02:38.24 | KDE4000 | :/ |
| 02:38.28 | KDE4000 | this is on a VPS |
| 02:38.38 | maher | KDE4000: how |
| 02:38.38 | KDE4000 | i need to use 4.0, not 5 |
| 02:38.42 | jpinx | what's the project called that works on a browser-only debian-based OS? |
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| 02:39.15 | KDE4000 | maher: apt-get install mysql-server-5.0 i think |
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| 02:39.37 | KDE4000 | apt-get install mysql-client-5.0 mysql-server-5.0 |
| 02:39.38 | KDE4000 | that |
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| 02:40.02 | maher | KDE4000: what did you have in your sources |
| 02:40.23 | lockd | does anyone know what :"failed to set IOPL for I/O" means, I assume it's a permission problem |
| 02:40.25 | KDE4000 | deb http://debrepo.mirror.vpslink.com/debian stable main contrib non-free |
| 02:40.25 | KDE4000 | deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free |
| 02:40.29 | lockd | su does not work, sudo does |
| 02:40.34 | enouf | ceil420: yes |
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| 02:40.50 | enouf | nightglider28: er ... |
| 02:40.59 | ceil420 | enouf, glad to hear it, cos i just tried it on one of only 10 CD-Rs :p |
| 02:41.01 | ceil420 | cheers o/ |
| 02:41.36 | enouf | ;-) |
| 02:41.47 | maher | KDE4000: etch should have mysql-server (5.0.32-7etch8) |
| 02:42.02 | nightglider28 | enouf: Tired and bored. :/ |
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| 02:42.20 | KDE4000 | maher: is there a single command to revert everything or not? |
| 02:42.40 | KDE4000 | otherwise i guess only hope is to re-install debian :S |
| 02:42.50 | enouf | nightglider28: i was like that most of the last few days - deal with it - or take some pills and knock your ass out :-) |
| 02:42.52 | ceil420 | why not just reinstall mysql? |
| 02:43.01 | maher | KDE4000: revert what? what version of mysql do you have? |
| 02:43.07 | nightglider28 | I'm going to sleep, soon. |
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| 02:43.21 | nightglider28 | enouf: But I figured I could have fu until I did. :P |
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| 02:45.02 | thasp | i apt-get install'd fluxbox, but startx doesn't start it |
| 02:45.12 | thasp | I haven't used a GUI in six years, am I missing something? |
| 02:45.29 | abrotman | what does it start ? |
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| 02:45.31 | thasp | it starts nothing :( |
| 02:45.35 | thasp | i just want to start fluxbox |
| 02:45.37 | abrotman | does X crash? |
| 02:45.43 | thasp | command not found abrotman |
| 02:45.46 | KDE4000 | everything was upgraded to 5.0 |
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| 02:45.54 | abrotman | startx not found ? |
| 02:45.55 | KDE4000 | of debian |
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| 02:45.56 | abrotman | thasp: did you install xorg ? |
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| 02:46.08 | thasp | abrotman: no, would apt-get install fluxbox have installed xorg? |
| 02:46.14 | abrotman | no |
| 02:46.19 | abrotman | thasp: and you should be using aptitude |
| 02:46.23 | abrotman | aptitude install fluxbox xorg |
| 02:46.24 | thasp | thasp aboard the failboat :( |
| 02:46.39 | thasp | what's the reason for aptitude over apt? |
| 02:46.45 | abrotman | !why aptitude |
| 02:46.45 | dpkg | aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution than other tools, it has far more advanced searching available, and will automatically uninstall unneeded dependencies, read /usr/share/doc/aptitude/README for more info. Aptitude can also remove or purge one package at the same time as installing others all from the command line, making it much easier to recover from broken dependencies. |
| 02:46.51 | maher | KDE4000: yes - stable is now lenny. If you wanted to stick with etch you needed etch instead of stable in sources.list |
| 02:47.01 | ceil420 | w00t |
| 02:47.03 | thasp | wonders why apt exists |
| 02:47.04 | ceil420 | got me some knoppix ^^ |
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| 02:47.17 | maher | KDE4000: it is usually easier to restore from backup or reinstall than downgrade |
| 02:47.18 | ceil420 | thasp, because yum sucks |
| 02:47.28 | abrotman | ceil420: that doesn't make sense |
| 02:47.30 | KDE4000 | blah... |
| 02:47.35 | KDE4000 | thats great on a IRC network server :( |
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| 02:47.51 | TimothyA | is there a log that keeps track of what application is launched when? |
| 02:48.11 | pickcoder | TimothyA: a log? |
| 02:48.12 | i_am_ed | /set theme madcow |
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| 02:48.25 | pickcoder | ps shows what's running |
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| 02:52.52 | Steven_M | hi all |
| 02:53.07 | cafuego | enouf: nah, just 'dpkg-buildpackage -b' |
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| 02:55.26 | abrotman | ed209 ? |
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| 02:57.08 | enouf | cafuego: oh .. well, say so :-P |
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| 02:57.58 | cafuego | enouf: sorry, working on a million things at once :-( |
| 02:58.18 | cafuego | Maybe i want lunch |
| 02:58.19 | Steven_M | I'm about to install Lenny via DVD, is any reason why I should have an active internet connection while installing? I was thinking of keeping the net down until I configure shorewall post install. |
| 02:58.52 | cafuego | Steven_M: if you have ana ctive net connection it'll pull an updtaes from security as well. No reason you couldn't add those later though |
| 02:59.16 | dkr | but he won't be secure while downloading the security updates! |
| 02:59.25 | cafuego | Steven_M: Still, it *should* not accept any connections from anything by default unless you install services. |
| 02:59.30 | enouf | cafuego: listen, i orig tar xzvf on the tar.gz (which gave me a mysql-5.0.67-d7-ourdelta/ dir) then i ran dpkg-source -x mysql...dsc and ended up with mysql-dfsg-5.0-5.0.67-d7/ one, any particular one i should be in? they both seem the same to me |
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| 02:59.55 | cafuego | enouf: Oh.... probably either... the latter would be the more officially named one |
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| 03:00.38 | enouf | ok |
| 03:01.10 | flourish | hi, all. As i remember there is a command to show how much energy, in percentage, your notebook has when power supply plug-out |
| 03:01.16 | enouf | heh dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: libtool (>= 1.4.2-7) chrpath gawk |
| 03:01.24 | enouf | need to install :-) |
| 03:01.29 | flourish | what's the command |
| 03:01.38 | abrotman | powertop ? |
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| 03:01.46 | cafuego | enouf: Oh yes, maybve a quick apt-get build-dep mysql-server :-) |
| 03:01.52 | sprax | Is there an ncurses iPod manager? |
| 03:02.01 | enouf | cafuego: not a prob ;-) |
| 03:02.02 | abrotman | flourish: there are quite a few commandline tools for querying the battery |
| 03:02.10 | Steven_M | cafuego: I presume it's really to do the security updates after the install? |
| 03:02.20 | cafuego | Steven_M: yeh |
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| 03:02.49 | flourish | abrotman: please tell me some offen used ones, and how about the temperature? |
| 03:02.50 | Steven_M | cafuego: ok thanks :) |
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| 03:03.12 | abrotman | flourish: NFC about temp .. apt-cache search battery status ? |
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| 03:03.38 | Steven_M | dkr: thanks to you as well :) |
| 03:03.47 | flourish | abrotman: thanks |
| 03:04.44 | patterson | just put lenny on an old toshiba laptop that might have hw issues. ic cant figure out how to open a deb package . realplayer so that i can thuse it lo listen to the bbc |
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| 03:04.52 | thasp | damn fluxbox looks awful on this crtr |
| 03:04.58 | thasp | i couldn't read a word |
| 03:05.41 | patterson | see archive manager.which also wouldnt open two jre *.bin things |
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| 03:06.02 | squisher | hey everyone, is there a way to search installed packages for what source they came from? (trying to check what packages I've pulled in from multimedia) |
| 03:06.39 | abrotman | !tell squisher about which repo |
| 03:07.01 | lostson | whats the volatile repo for now ? |
| 03:07.14 | squisher | thanks abrotman |
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| 03:08.31 | abrotman | !volatile |
| 03:08.31 | dpkg | i heard volatile is a project that aims at keeping the stable distribution up to date for fast moving packages such as virus scanners, spam scanners and firmware downloaders. It can be found at http://volatile.debian.org/. An example line for your lenny sources.list is: deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main contrib non-free |
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| 03:08.51 | lostson | thank you abrotman and dpkg |
| 03:11.12 | flourish | abrotman: hi, another problem. How can i install all the package named with -doc ? |
| 03:11.20 | abrotman | all ? |
| 03:11.25 | abrotman | every single one ? |
| 03:11.49 | flourish | abrotman: maybe, then i can read most of them ^_^ |
| 03:12.03 | abrotman | really .. all of them ? |
| 03:12.14 | flourish | abrotman: yeah |
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| 03:12.23 | abrotman | i'm showing over 1,200 |
| 03:13.11 | flourish | abrotman: yes, too many |
| 03:13.20 | abrotman | i thought so :) |
| 03:14.03 | flourish | abrotman: or i can direct the search result to a file, then edit the file to just hold useful ones. |
| 03:14.29 | flourish | abrotman: but it seems very stupid to edit such a file^_^ |
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| 03:14.37 | abrotman | time consuming |
| 03:14.44 | esaym | is there any good way to figure out what chunk size would be best to use on a software raid 5 with mdadm? This is a desktop system. I am wondering if I should run bonnie++ on a single disk just to see at what file size my disk and chipset start to really speed up at but I don't know if that is the right way to do it... |
| 03:15.01 | flourish | abrotman: quite right |
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| 03:17.09 | luke3321 | Hey all, I just did a 'aptitude full-upgrade' to squeeze, and all went well. But /etc/debian_version still shows 5.0 |
| 03:17.14 | luke3321 | Anyone know why? |
| 03:17.23 | flourish | abrotman: can you please help. I failed with the command ' apt-get install $(echo $(apt-cache search doc |grep doc)) -f |
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| 03:17.47 | abrotman | jebus |
| 03:18.02 | abrotman | failed how ? |
| 03:18.13 | xkill | what happened to iceape in unstable? |
| 03:18.21 | abrotman | judd: versions iceape |
| 03:18.23 | judd | abrotman: iceape -- etch: 1.0.13~pre080323b-0etch3 etch-security: 1.0.13~pre080614i-0etch1 sid: 1.1.13-1 |
| 03:18.26 | abrotman | it's there |
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| 03:18.36 | abrotman | gone in lenny though ... |
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| 03:18.51 | xkill | not here. |
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| 03:19.09 | xkill | ftp.de.debian.org/debian unstable main << is what i'm using |
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| 03:20.04 | luke3321 | Anyone have any input as to why /etc/debian_version still reads 5.0 after update to squeeze? |
| 03:20.09 | abrotman | pdo says it's gone too |
| 03:20.25 | enouf | luke3321: don't worry about it |
| 03:20.27 | abrotman | luke3321: hasn't gotten an update to change that file yet |
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| 03:20.55 | luke3321 | enouf: So it is Squeeze, just no update to that file, huh? |
| 03:20.57 | luke3321 | interesting |
| 03:21.07 | luke3321 | as long as im running squeeze |
| 03:21.07 | abrotman | give it a few days |
| 03:21.13 | luke3321 | thats cool |
| 03:21.24 | luke3321 | just wanted to make sure my upgrade didnt fail |
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| 03:23.47 | Caelum | if I reconnected my usb soundcard, how do I get all the gnome/pulseaudio/etc shit to re-recognize it? do I have to restart X? |
| 03:24.00 | quhan | hi, is there someone know, whats the language of the freetalk script use |
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| 03:24.13 | theodred | have the majority of you updated from lenny to squeeze yet, or are you going to wait a few weeks for the flood o'missing deps to subside? |
| 03:24.19 | quhan | hi, is there someone know, whats the language of the freetalk script use? thanks! |
| 03:24.32 | xkill | abrotman: its gone for about 2 weeks now .( |
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| 03:26.41 | sg[] | howdy |
| 03:26.45 | abrotman | xkill: hadn't noticed |
| 03:26.55 | squisher | xkill, maybe read this thread? Didn't check if it has your answer though - http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-release@lists.debian.org/msg29660.html |
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| 03:27.16 | sg[] | i'm getting a "you're installing software that can't be authenticated" error when trying to update my distro? |
| 03:27.24 | sg[] | packages like dpkg and libc are listed |
| 03:27.34 | abrotman | did you install debian-archive-keyring ? |
| 03:27.36 | sg[] | er, not libc |
| 03:27.38 | sg[] | gcc* |
| 03:27.51 | sg[] | no |
| 03:28.01 | sg[] | i've been running lenny since it was released at beta |
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| 03:29.32 | sg[] | anyways |
| 03:29.41 | sg[] | after that, i also am getting the following error |
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| 03:30.41 | sg[] | W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/m/mysql-dfsg-5.0/mysql-client-5.0_5.0.51a-21_i386.deb 404 Not Found [IP: 64.50.236.52 80] |
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| 03:30.51 | sg[] | any ideas why |
| 03:30.52 | sg[] | ? |
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| 03:33.09 | flourish | abrotman: i find the command for battery. Just "acpi" |
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| 03:33.30 | sg[] | hello? anyone have any idea why i'm getting this erro? |
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| 03:33.51 | abrotman | sg[]: did you run aptitude update ? |
| 03:34.08 | sg[] | i just installed updates using the update manager |
| 03:34.10 | flourish | acpi -V |
| 03:34.11 | sg[] | so, no i guess |
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| 03:41.55 | twiggz | does anyone know if the beryl project repos will still work with 5.0 ? |
| 03:42.04 | xoz | sg[]: try another mirror |
| 03:42.06 | twiggz | i dont want to have to use compiz |
| 03:42.19 | twiggz | beryl does what i want, how i want, out of the box. |
| 03:42.38 | twiggz | and it seems faster than compiz-fusion |
| 03:42.46 | twiggz | just by eyeballing it |
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| 03:43.53 | twiggz | i used a testing lenny netinst iso the other day the kde version, and compiz-fusion completely failed..setting up 16 virtual desktops by default....and crashing constantly... |
| 03:44.19 | abrotman | twiggz: beryl has been dead for a long time |
| 03:44.40 | twiggz | abrotman, Ive used it happily on etch for a long timel. |
| 03:44.42 | twiggz | -l |
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| 03:44.59 | abrotman | still dead |
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| 03:45.37 | xoz | twiggz: better work for the bug in compiz than to do wishful thinking. |
| 03:45.49 | twiggz | ive used compiz-fusion on freebsd, zenwalk, slackware, and ubuntu...and it doesnt seem as quick to respond, and it isnt set up out of the box how i like how beryl is. |
| 03:45.52 | tomolds | I have cron running and have dumped a script in /etc/cron.hourly and it appears to be not executing. Do I have to do anything else? |
| 03:46.02 | twiggz | oh |
| 03:46.12 | twiggz | and the debian testing iso as of like 3 days ago |
| 03:46.19 | creichen | enouf: Thanks again-- still need to fix wireless (hence my disappearance), but otherwise the kernel upgrade fixed everything. |
| 03:46.19 | twiggz | installed compiz fusion on that |
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| 03:46.23 | twiggz | kept crashing |
| 03:46.30 | twiggz | lenny |
| 03:47.39 | xoz | twiggz: still, be realistic. maybe better if you can zero-in what makes it slower or crashing. beryl is now merged with compiz so the future is compiz. |
| 03:47.47 | abrotman | twiggz: then why are you asking us .. just try beryl .. |
| 03:47.50 | abrotman | !beryl |
| 03:47.51 | dpkg | Beryl was a compositing window manager for the X Window System, previously a fork of <Compiz>. The Beryl Project was merged with Compiz Extras in 2007 to form Compiz Fusion. http://www.compiz-fusion.org/, #compiz-fusion @ irc.freenode.net. |
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| 03:48.16 | twiggz | abrotman, I am asking because maybe other people have tried it. |
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| 03:49.07 | xoz | debian is not the right channel for that. we hate eyecandy desktop... |
| 03:49.18 | xoz | makes wishful thinking. |
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| 03:49.52 | liable | i like candy! |
| 03:49.58 | xoz | me too |
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| 03:51.40 | twiggz | who elected xoz to speak for everyone? |
| 03:51.48 | xoz | me |
| 03:52.06 | xoz | points twiggz to ubuntu |
| 03:52.12 | twiggz | Obviously his statement is flawed, because I like everyone. As I am in this channel, I must be a part of "we" |
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| 03:52.31 | xoz | stops feeding. |
| 03:53.07 | twiggz | nah, Ill just point myself back to freebsd where things I like work. |
| 03:53.13 | twiggz | If it comes to that. |
| 03:53.28 | xoz | obviously nobody minds beryl or compiz because no one answers you. so, just pffft. |
| 03:53.38 | twiggz | pfffft |
| 03:54.13 | twiggz | 850 people, 845 useless idling bitches. |
| 03:54.19 | twiggz | fuck this channel..support my ass |
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| 03:54.44 | tomolds | lol |
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| 03:59.06 | amphi | !customer |
| 03:59.07 | dpkg | A satisfied customer? We should have him stuffed! |
| 03:59.16 | amphi | heh |
| 04:00.05 | lostson | haha |
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| 04:03.07 | gentgeen__ | I just tried to do an dist-upgrade to lenny, and having issues... |
| 04:03.19 | xoz | gentgeen__: explain |
| 04:03.41 | gentgeen__ | one of which is now running dpkg -i on a downloaded pkg I get error: |
| 04:03.49 | gentgeen__ | package architecture (amd64) does not match system (i386) |
| 04:04.08 | gentgeen__ | but I have an amd64 system... and uname -a returns: |
| 04:04.20 | gentgeen__ | Linux longshot 2.6.18-4-amd64 #1 SMP Thu May 10 01:01:58 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 04:05.01 | abrotman | gentgeen__: dpkg-architecture .. says what ? |
| 04:05.19 | Mousey | DEB_BUILD_ARCH=powerpc |
| 04:05.21 | gentgeen__ | /usr/bin/perl: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/perl5/auto/Locale/gettext/gettext.so: undefined symbol: Perl_Tstack_sp_ptr |
| 04:05.22 | Mousey | woohoo! |
| 04:05.37 | abrotman | that's what it says ? |
| 04:05.43 | gentgeen__ | yep |
| 04:06.01 | abrotman | someone has an unhappy system |
| 04:06.11 | gentgeen__ | yep :( |
| 04:06.49 | gentgeen__ | I forgot that source.list was had "stable" ... not "etch" ... and just did a "dist-upgrade" |
| 04:06.59 | gentgeen__ | silly me forgot to take some time and make sure all things were in place first |
| 04:08.14 | xoz | gentgeen__: you can always try dpkg --force-architecture for some 32-bit apps |
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| 04:13.30 | Linuturk | can someone give me a hand apt pinning to grab the newest xorg-intel driver for my thinkpad t400? |
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| 04:15.06 | LRU | I'm testing an etch->lenny upgrade in a VM, and trying to follow the install guide, which says to install the latest apt first... but it tries to remove and pull in a whole host of other packets when I do 'apt-get install apt' |
| 04:15.12 | LRU | what am I doing wrong? |
| 04:15.46 | Linuturk | LRU: /msg dpkg etch->lenny |
| 04:16.03 | LRU | thanks :-) |
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| 04:16.59 | akio | is there something that will monitor services and start them if they are down? |
| 04:17.30 | akio | something to keep on a server that may get overloaded temporarily |
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| 04:20.04 | liable | hmm, wasn't there heartbeat or something that did that? |
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| 04:20.09 | liable | !heartbeat |
| 04:20.21 | liable | digerati: stupid bot |
| 04:20.25 | liable | uh |
| 04:20.26 | teratoma | akio: nagios has a plugin for that |
| 04:20.35 | liable | digerati: sorry, wrong nick |
| 04:20.44 | TimothyA | where are suexec logs located? |
| 04:20.51 | teratoma | akio: heartbeat needs you to set up two instances of the service, and it'll monitor them... making sure at least one of them is reachable |
| 04:21.08 | akio | i don't have access to the nagios at my site yet, i'm still under 90 days |
| 04:21.27 | teratoma | i have no idea what you are talking about |
| 04:23.01 | daos | anyone know of a repository for RAR and UNRAR? |
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| 04:23.23 | akio | teratoma: i haven't worked at my job site for more than 90 days, i have restricted access |
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| 04:24.18 | teratoma | that's wonderful |
| 04:24.56 | bullgard4 | enouf: What does "-- MARK --" mean as in http://rafb.net/p/cK16mD15.html? |
| 04:25.19 | liable | daos: unrar is in the repo. theres a free and a non-free one |
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| 04:26.31 | daos | everytime I do and apt-get install for it I get Package rar is not available, but is referred to by another package, blah blah blah |
| 04:26.47 | liable | !unrar |
| 04:26.48 | dpkg | i heard unrar is a <non-free> package and a command used to extract .rar archives, or ask me about <unrar-free> |
| 04:27.13 | liable | daos: you need non-free in your sources, or install unrar-free |
| 04:27.40 | daos | liable: ahh ok thanks :) |
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| 04:28.20 | Linuturk | why doesn't apt-get -t unstable install xserver-xorg-video-intel update my package? |
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| 04:29.29 | liable | Linuturk: is the unstable version newer? |
| 04:29.44 | akio | basically i want something that starts mysql after death, imapd and/or exim after death |
| 04:30.06 | Linuturk | liable: what's the easiest way to check? |
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| 04:30.36 | liable | !info xserver-xorg-video-intel |
| 04:31.38 | dpkg | xserver-xorg-video-intel: (X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver), section x11, is optional. Version: 2:2.3.2-2+lenny6 (sid), Packaged size: 388 kB, Installed size: 716 kB |
| 04:32.09 | liable | Linuturk: ^^ what version do you have? |
| 04:32.31 | Linuturk | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:32.32 | teratoma | akio: you should probably figure out why exim/mysql/imapd die |
| 04:32.41 | Linuturk | well, shoot |
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| 04:32.54 | Linuturk | isn't there a newer version out there? maybe experimental? |
| 04:33.04 | liable | Linuturk: give it a week or so for new packages to flow into sid |
| 04:33.34 | Linuturk | liable: well, I'm trying to figure out how other people have this same chipset in testing with direct rendering |
| 04:33.54 | liable | Linuturk: they might have compiled it i guess |
| 04:34.01 | Linuturk | unless I'm not turning on the right driver in the right way |
| 04:34.12 | Linuturk | how would I force xorg to use the intel driver? |
| 04:34.14 | TimothyA | where are suexec logs located? |
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| 04:36.36 | Linuturk | http://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Thinkpad/T400/lenny liable I followed these instructions based on the same laptop, but when I configured xorg, it didn't get direct rendering |
| 04:37.16 | liable | Linuturk: have a look at your xorg log and see if it mentions anything interesting |
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| 04:38.43 | karsten | Linuturk: pastebin the log if you can. /var/log/OXorg.0.log generally. |
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| 04:41.27 | kingsley | What would you say to a (Windows) user who wants to use his linux computer without the inconvenience of having to log in? |
| 04:42.03 | Linuturk | karsten: http://pastebin.com/m7445f18e liable |
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| 04:42.30 | Linuturk | kingsley: I'd setup auto login and let him learn the hard way |
| 04:43.22 | Linuturk | karsten: looks like it can't find that particular file . . . |
| 04:43.54 | Linuturk | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:43.58 | Linuturk | on my system |
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| 04:51.37 | empiric | hi all if i want my oracle on debain to use only certain amount of memory how i do in debian |
| 04:51.39 | empiric | ? |
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| 04:52.09 | ilembitov | Hi, all. Any ideas when KDE 4.2 is coming to sid? |
| 04:52.36 | simonrvn | wir |
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| 04:55.47 | ilembitov | OK. Another question then. AFAIK I can not install anything from experimental unless I specify it with -t experimental. But how do I install the whole KDE desktop? I mean, I would use tasksel if it wasn't for experimental, but what should I do in this case? |
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| 05:01.53 | simonrvn | !experimental |
| 05:01.54 | dpkg | experimental is the bleeding edge of Debian Development. Packages here have been deemed unfit/DANGEROUS/untrustworthy/etc for release by the maintainer responsible for them. DO NOT INSTALL PACKAGES FROM EXPERIMENTAL WITHOUT KNOWING EXACTLY WHY AND WHAT YOU ARE DOING. #debian does not support experimental. For an actual description, see section 4.6.4.3 of the Developer's Reference, or http://packages.debian.org/experimental/ |
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| 05:02.41 | ttuttle | I'm installing Emacspeak on a 433 MHz Alpha, and it's been byte-compiling Lisp modules for about 15 minutes. Is this normal? |
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| 05:03.13 | simonrvn | doesn't sound normal |
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| 05:05.19 | LRU | I'm testing an etch->lenny upgrade in a VM, and trying to follow the install guide, which says to install the latest apt first... but it tries to remove and pull in a whole host of other packets when I do 'apt-get install apt' |
| 05:05.49 | LRU | I'm following the release notes, and have solved all pending issues with aptitude |
| 05:05.53 | simonrvn | even recompiling all the installed elisp packages on my ppc box doesn't take that long. maybe 1/3 that time. it's a ppc 750 332MHz |
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| 05:06.10 | simonrvn | doh |
| 05:06.37 | simonrvn | LRU: well yeh, it will. |
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| 05:07.42 | Retik | can anybody help me with a problem i'm having mounting usb devices? |
| 05:08.36 | Retik | i'm using voyage linux, stripped down port of debian, and my current kernel doesn't support ntfs mounting. so i compiled a new kernel and now after installing it it's not creating a /dev/sda node when a usb device is plugged in. and idea why? |
| 05:08.57 | Mousey | apt-get install ntfs-3g |
| 05:09.16 | Mousey | use the FUSE implementation of NTFS rather than the kernel's.. imho |
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| 05:10.34 | Retik | will that allow me to do a normal 'mount /dev/sda /mnt/usb' without specifying the fs type? |
| 05:10.52 | Mousey | but if it's not creating the device file, it sounds like something else might be going on.. i'd check /var/log/syslog to make sure the device registered itself on the usb bus |
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| 05:11.09 | adb | !ipv6 |
| 05:11.10 | dpkg | i heard ipv6 is at http://www.ipv6.org/, but supported in potato, or at http://people.debian.org/~csmall/ipv6/ Also known as "ipng", or read RFC 1924, or /msg ChanServ list #*ipv6*, or see <iproute>, or http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Linux+IPv6-HOWTO/ |
| 05:11.15 | simonrvn | Retik: ask your distro |
| 05:11.18 | Mousey | having to mount devices by hand seems kind of old school |
| 05:11.26 | Mousey | yah. i donno what they did different |
| 05:11.29 | Retik | simonrvn: their support is very limited :/ |
| 05:11.31 | adb | oops |
| 05:12.00 | simonrvn | maybe ask in ##linux |
| 05:13.41 | Retik | mousey: log says usb_storage: device found at 2; waiting for device to settle...: usb mass storage device support registered; scsi 0:0:0:0: Direct-Access USB Flash Disk; usb-storage: device scan complete |
| 05:13.41 | Retik | looks like it's getting registered |
| 05:13.41 | Retik | it's just not creating the /dev/sda node |
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| 05:19.17 | LRU | simonrvn: I was misreading the output... looks like only 11/7/24 are up/added/removed... thanks |
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| 05:20.33 | LRU | doh... no, it is removing all of gnome :-( |
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| 05:21.10 | LRU | I don't see why aptitude install aptitude needs to remove gnome... |
| 05:21.47 | liable | purge aptitude, and reinstall it |
| 05:22.05 | liable | it can go a bit crazy if you have been using apt-get and then use aptitude |
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| 05:22.59 | LRU | liable: thanks, I'll try that... good thing I'm trying this in a vm first :-) |
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| 05:39.53 | slidesinger | I just got an unusual listing with the ls -l command. It lists the correct directory name, but the attributes are ?--------- ? ? ? ? Does anyone know what this means or if there is anything I can do to retrieve the data? |
| 05:40.03 | linlin | has anyone installed boxxee on debian? |
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| 05:42.49 | matthewpucc | hi everyone. I'm trying to get my basic lamp setup on my debian vps but aptitude kicks out these errors. http://pastebin.com/d41d0a9b5 is there something i am doing wrong or is it just a bad install |
| 05:43.22 | enouf | cafuego: we're going on almost 5 hours now .. (another 15-20 min) |
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| 05:44.17 | enouf | cafuego: it only takes me ~1.5-2hrs to build a kernel :-P |
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| 05:44.56 | enouf | btw - i had fallen asleep before .. lmao |
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| 05:45.37 | enouf | slidesinger: is that a ntfs/vfat/samba fstype? |
| 05:46.06 | flourish | help, can someone please paste your groups here. I used the usermod for mistake |
| 05:46.12 | slidesinger | enouf hfsplus |
| 05:46.32 | enouf | flourish: adm dialout cdrom floppy audio video plugdev saned powerdev |
| 05:46.44 | enouf | flourish: /msg dpkg groups |
| 05:47.17 | flourish | enouf: thanks very much. I think thest groups are the default group that your user has? |
| 05:47.35 | slidesinger | enouf: I am able to read and copy all directories on the partition except this one. |
| 05:48.07 | enouf | slidesinger: apple? hrm .. i think that can occur when using bad locale or mount options, or when someone did a chmod -rx recursively |
| 05:49.08 | enouf | flourish: pretty much - might add netdev or something |
| 05:49.21 | flourish | enouf: thanks |
| 05:49.32 | slidesinger | hmmm. I'll do a little more digging and see if I am missing some piece of the mount options, hopefully that's all it is. |
| 05:49.41 | cafuego | enouf: heh |
| 05:49.47 | enouf | flourish: i think also one isn't in adm, but read, it allows one to read logs without sudo/root |
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| 05:50.12 | enouf | cafuego: spare 15 min eh? :-P |
| 05:50.15 | wip | hi sysadmin X) |
| 05:50.24 | cafuego | enouf: and here i was thinking my Athlon64 VM server was slow ... |
| 05:50.31 | enouf | cafuego: not an issue - so long as it stops soon :-) |
| 05:50.41 | wip | after apt-get upgrade my server was not responding anymore (after reboot) |
| 05:50.53 | cafuego | enouf: it should at least not run its AARRGHRHRRHRHRHRRAAAAAARRGGGGHHHHH |
| 05:50.57 | wip | i waited like 30 minutes and then i tried to force a reboot (apc) |
| 05:51.00 | cafuego | enouf: Not run the mysqld yesys |
| 05:51.02 | cafuego | tests |
| 05:51.16 | wip | now i think that maybe the server was cleaning my HD |
| 05:51.16 | cafuego | Sorry, the upstaits neighbours just made their piano be loud again. |
| 05:51.36 | enouf | cafuego: oh my xterm is constantly flooded .. with all the build args |
| 05:51.37 | wip | so my question is, how to relaunch a scandisk, cleandisk? |
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| 05:52.18 | enouf | stuff like --> then mv -f ".deps/my_alloc.Tpo" ".deps/my_alloc.Plo"; else rm -f ".deps/my_alloc.Tpo"; exit 1; fi |
| 05:52.18 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:53.25 | enouf | wip: what FStype is your / fs? |
| 05:53.37 | wip | enouf: ext3 |
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| 05:53.48 | enouf | wip: can you pastebin output of /etc/fstab ? |
| 05:54.09 | cafuego | enouf: Just like running Gentoo, eh |
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| 05:54.26 | enouf | ugh ... |
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| 05:55.19 | wip | enouf: http://pastebin.com/m6c84e387 |
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| 05:56.39 | enouf | wip: ok, and you can reboot? can you write to / FS? if so do this "touch /forcefsck" and reboot normally |
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| 05:57.16 | enouf | wip: another way is "shutdown -rF now" (man shutdown) |
| 05:57.28 | wip | enouf: excellent stuff to know! |
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| 05:57.59 | enouf | that will force a fsck of your / FS at boot time - since you have 0 1 in the field 6 |
| 05:58.13 | cafuego | Or go to single user mode, remount / as read-only and run fsck. |
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| 05:58.35 | Gruelius | Hey all im having issues with getting the netbios name to work on the network, can someone give me some pointers? |
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| 05:58.57 | wip | many thanks! |
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| 05:59.18 | enouf | wip: you can change /dev/hdb1 /bk ext3 defaults 0 3 <--to 0 2 |
| 05:59.28 | asdfqwer | you guys think it would be dangerous to share vm's across more than one account. |
| 05:59.44 | cafuego | parse error |
| 05:59.52 | asdfqwer | it's my home computer, not like at work or anything |
| 06:00.03 | wip | enouf: this filesystem is only use for backing up stuff |
| 06:00.11 | wip | enouf: so from 0 3 to 0 2? |
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| 06:00.22 | enouf | wip: yep |
| 06:00.37 | wip | enouf: will do it and read about it X)) |
| 06:00.53 | enouf | wip: i don't think 3 is a valid entry - only 0 and 2 .. but it's possible i'm mistaken |
| 06:00.57 | asdfqwer | anyone else here play with Virtualbox? |
| 06:01.26 | enouf | er only 0 , 1 , or 2 for field 6 |
| 06:02.56 | asdfqwer | what's a good folder for a vm? |
| 06:03.10 | wip | enouf: changing it thanks |
| 06:03.46 | enouf | man fstab and google ;-) welcone |
| 06:03.53 | enouf | welcome* |
| 06:05.30 | Gruelius | i cant get network names for any pc's on the network from my debian server, how do i fix that? |
| 06:05.47 | asdfqwer | a hammer. |
| 06:05.52 | asdfqwer | a really sharp one. |
| 06:06.05 | Gruelius | ok what do i hammer |
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| 06:06.11 | Gruelius | the screen or the nic |
| 06:06.13 | Gruelius | or both |
| 06:06.20 | enouf | bullgard4: every 20 min - it's syslogs way of marking a time in the log |
| 06:06.33 | asdfqwer | Gruelius, better yet, a hot glue gun |
| 06:06.37 | asdfqwer | and some silly putty |
| 06:06.48 | Gruelius | ok joke time over, anyone got an idea? |
| 06:06.52 | bullgard4 | enouf: Ok, thank you very much. |
| 06:06.53 | Gruelius | what can i check |
| 06:07.02 | asdfqwer | how are you hosted? |
| 06:07.09 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | hmm coming out of the freeze unstable is giving me rapid updates now . :) |
| 06:07.30 | Gruelius | its all at home. just debian lenny fileserver whcih is having the trouble, fpsense router and lots of windows pcs |
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| 06:07.55 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | !windows |
| 06:07.56 | dpkg | PCs are like air conditioners, if you open Windows(R) they don't work. |
| 06:08.10 | asdfqwer | Gruelius, can you see your router? |
| 06:08.11 | Gruelius | pfsense* |
| 06:08.16 | asdfqwer | ping 192.168.1.1 |
| 06:08.28 | Gruelius | yep its 192.168.0.1 |
| 06:08.36 | Gruelius | i can access the server and services by using the IP from all boxes |
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| 06:08.49 | Gruelius | but if i try t o use the name it cant be accessed, and it cant access any computers by name either |
| 06:08.55 | asdfqwer | ok, does your ip show up via your router's admin panel? |
| 06:08.57 | Gruelius | if on the server i ping its own name it works though |
| 06:09.46 | asdfqwer | shot in the dark, but run dhclient-script |
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| 06:10.09 | Gruelius | adsfqwer i dont know how to see all attatched computers with pfsense, only dhcp clients |
| 06:10.17 | Gruelius | asdfqwer the computer has a static ip |
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| 06:10.47 | Gruelius | ill see what happens if i use dhcp to config the server |
| 06:10.55 | asdfqwer | you can still run a static ip |
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| 06:11.06 | asdfqwer | dhclient-script just registers you with your router |
| 06:11.20 | Gruelius | lmao i just ran dhclient without the csript lol |
| 06:11.28 | asdfqwer | heh |
| 06:11.38 | Gruelius | brb going to reset network onbox |
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| 06:11.53 | asdfqwer | wait, can you ping your other machines? |
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| 06:12.19 | asdfqwer | if you can, it could be something softwarey |
| 06:12.31 | Gruelius | asdfqwer i can ping them by IP |
| 06:12.33 | Gruelius | but not by name |
| 06:12.55 | Gruelius | woot |
| 06:12.57 | Gruelius | its working now |
| 06:12.58 | asdfqwer | got it? |
| 06:12.59 | asdfqwer | k |
| 06:13.11 | Gruelius | ill see whats diff between my /etc/network/interfaces and what dhcp set |
| 06:13.22 | asdfqwer | dhclient-script ftw |
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| 06:34.09 | obnauticus | err what device does the parport show up as when i enable it |
| 06:34.14 | obnauticus | parport, and parport_pc |
| 06:35.16 | Supaplex | did that go obsolete before or after the 8" floppy? |
| 06:35.38 | obnauticus | not if you want to program EEProm's |
| 06:36.50 | aroot | obnauticus: lp0 i think |
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| 06:37.12 | obnauticus | aroot /dev/lpt0 doesn't exist |
| 06:37.15 | obnauticus | i looked for lp* :\ |
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| 06:37.39 | aroot | hmm |
| 06:37.43 | Supaplex | obnauticus: hit number four: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=linux+parallel+port+device |
| 06:37.52 | obnauticus | .... |
| 06:38.02 | obnauticus | i swear to god if it's something i've already looked for |
| 06:38.25 | Caelum | blah, where do I get the IDEA plugin for gnupg? |
| 06:38.34 | Supaplex | wow, vmware has good docs on it too |
| 06:39.20 | obnauticus | let me rephrase my question Supaplex. I've loaded the module and there is no parallel port device |
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| 06:39.28 | obnauticus | http://pastebin.ca/1340818 |
| 06:40.37 | aroot | is the module loaded in your kernel? |
| 06:40.40 | obnauticus | yes |
| 06:40.46 | obnauticus | parport_pc 31524 0 |
| 06:40.47 | obnauticus | parport 32200 1 parport_pc |
| 06:41.04 | Supaplex | humm. should be parport0 |
| 06:41.25 | Supaplex | maybe linux/Documenation/devices.txt can let you use it manually. maybe it's a udev thing |
| 06:41.55 | streuner_ | what kind of kernel, selfbaked? |
| 06:41.57 | obnauticus | devices.txt = lp0 & lp1 |
| 06:42.03 | obnauticus | nope. |
| 06:42.03 | obnauticus | Linux asterisk 2.6.18-4-486 #1 Mon Mar 26 16:39:10 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 06:42.22 | obnauticus | i should update that |
| 06:42.22 | streuner_ | cat /proc/version |
| 06:42.34 | obnauticus | Linux version 2.6.18-4-486 (Debian 2.6.18.dfsg.1-12) (waldi@debian.org) (gcc version 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-21)) #1 Mon Mar 26 16:39:10 UTC 2007 |
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| 06:43.06 | aroot | you should also have the lp module loaded |
| 06:43.35 | obnauticus | aight lp0 showed up |
| 06:43.50 | obnauticus | err now it sas I/o error...but it's a DIY circuit so it's probably my fault |
| 06:46.21 | streuner_ | obnauticus: use an updated kernel |
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| 06:47.01 | streuner_ | stable/lenny has 2.6.26 now... |
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| 06:52.05 | cast | later all. pgeace. |
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| 06:52.36 | simonrvn | pgeace, is that a PG version of peace? :P |
| 06:53.02 | amphi | postgres? |
| 06:53.27 | simonrvn | heh |
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| 06:54.22 | jaggz | I'm about to install a bunch of packages which are dependencies of another package, which I'm trying to compile and which is not installed yet |
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| 06:54.41 | jaggz | (I'm compiling amarok from source, but dpkg-buildpackage says it has unmet dependencies) |
| 06:55.08 | jaggz | I can't compile it without those dependencies, but I would like them to be marked "auto", not manually installed |
| 06:55.14 | Retik | anyone know why i'm getting the following message when trying to build a kernel package with make-kpkg? |
| 06:55.25 | Retik | dpkg-gencontrol: error: package (kernel name) not in control info |
| 06:55.34 | streuner_ | jaggz: whats wrong with the package of Debianß |
| 06:55.42 | streuner_ | jaggz: ? |
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| 06:56.05 | streuner_ | judd, versions amarok |
| 06:56.06 | judd | streuner_: amarok -- etch: 1.4.4-4 etch-security: 1.4.4-4etch1 lenny: 1.4.10-2 sid: 1.4.10-2 experimental: 2.0.1.1-1 |
| 06:56.11 | jaggz | I'm having a hell of a time getting it to run projectM visualization |
| 06:56.13 | streuner_ | oh ic :-) |
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| 06:56.44 | jaggz | which I'm trying to get working for a student project |
| 06:56.49 | obnauticus | streuner_ what's the easiest way to update my kernel |
| 06:57.05 | hoxu | !k-p |
| 06:57.06 | dpkg | To compile a kernel The Debian Way(tm) "apt-get install kernel-package build-essential libncurses5-dev" and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz; You should also ask me about <make-kpkg> and <kp mantra>, or just http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html.en, or <kernel build-deps> |
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| 06:57.27 | streuner_ | obnauticus: aptitude install "linux-kernel"? |
| 06:57.34 | obnauticus | ya |
| 06:57.36 | obnauticus | that's what i did |
| 06:57.39 | obnauticus | i haven't done this for a while |
| 06:57.45 | obnauticus | 's been on freebsd.....for a while now |
| 06:57.57 | streuner_ | obnauticus: which version of debianß |
| 06:58.01 | streuner_ | obnauticus: which version of debian? |
| 06:58.09 | streuner_ | obnauticus: stable? |
| 06:58.13 | obnauticus | errr |
| 06:58.14 | obnauticus | hold |
| 06:58.17 | obnauticus | how do i check again |
| 06:58.17 | obnauticus | :\ |
| 06:58.29 | obnauticus | Debian 2.6.18.dfsg.1-12 |
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| 06:58.41 | streuner_ | obnauticus: just show us your sources.list in paste.debian.net |
| 06:58.42 | jaggz | so what do I do to make these really dependencies? |
| 06:58.53 | jaggz | do I manually install them, then mark each of them auto? |
| 06:59.05 | obnauticus | http://paste.debian.net/28646/ |
| 06:59.58 | streuner_ | obnauticus: just comment line 12 and s/etch/lenny/ |
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| 07:00.35 | streuner_ | obnauticus: _and_ read release notes for lenny |
| 07:01.07 | streuner_ | obnauticus: /msg dpkg lenny release notes |
| 07:01.14 | obnauticus | so only these two lines should be uncommented |
| 07:01.14 | obnauticus | deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib |
| 07:01.14 | obnauticus | deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib |
| 07:01.29 | streuner_ | no |
| 07:01.57 | Gruelius | Hey all, my debian server cannot resolve local computer names into IP's and the other computers cant access it by its own computer name |
| 07:02.05 | streuner_ | both are for security not for normal sources |
| 07:02.22 | streuner_ | obnauticus: you need line 6 at least too... |
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| 07:02.43 | obnauticus | so 6, 9, and 10 |
| 07:02.55 | enouf | ~$ lshal | grep -i print |
| 07:03.30 | at0m|c | Gruelius: did you check /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname ? |
| 07:04.04 | Gruelius | yes |
| 07:04.11 | Gruelius | it resolves its own name properly |
| 07:04.11 | enouf | obnauticus: the reason you have a -4-686 rather than a -6-686 for etch is your security.debian.org lines were commented out |
| 07:04.18 | Gruelius | ill cat them to you |
| 07:04.25 | at0m|c | no need |
| 07:04.53 | enouf | Gruelius: /msg dpkg resolv.conf |
| 07:05.14 | enouf | or .. you have a bind issue? |
| 07:05.22 | Gruelius | beats me |
| 07:05.26 | Gruelius | ill read that and have a look |
| 07:05.36 | enouf | DNS? /etc/nsswitch.conf? no idea |
| 07:06.20 | Gruelius | what name server do i want to use, i can just use the rotuers IP yeah? |
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| 07:06.32 | Gruelius | can resolve websites just not local machines |
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| 07:10.44 | enouf | Gruelius: for netbios info try man nmbd, perhaps you were using something like avahi-deamon, or netatalk or zeroconf prior? |
| 07:11.25 | enouf | Gruelius: does route output show your router as your default gateway? |
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| 07:12.14 | enouf | i mean, what are you using for your Nameservers anyway? your own? |
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| 07:12.37 | enouf | are you using dnsmasq or something? |
| 07:14.39 | Gruelius | not using anything |
| 07:14.46 | Gruelius | nmbd |
| 07:16.05 | Gruelius | and enouf im not uising my own nameservers, the router (pfsense box) has dns forwarding set i think |
| 07:16.15 | Gruelius | when i use DHCP for assign everythng it all works |
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| 07:16.20 | Gruelius | i should have mentioned ^^ lol |
| 07:16.45 | enouf | wonderful |
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| 07:17.11 | enouf | welp, i generally stink at networking issues - good luck ;-) |
| 07:17.24 | enouf | try ##networking or ##linux :-p |
| 07:17.45 | enouf | or #pfsense or whatever |
| 07:17.53 | Gruelius | lol |
| 07:17.56 | Gruelius | etch worked perfectly |
| 07:18.02 | Gruelius | just going to lenny thats caused it to play up |
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| 07:18.54 | Gruelius | ill just use dhcp for now i guess |
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| 07:20.31 | Farhadix | i wanna use buildpkg switch for debian/lenny but returns some error: http://www.nopaste.com/p/aaxyRIEaA/txt , what package is wrong? |
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| 07:23.39 | enouf | dpkg-shlibdeps: failure: couldn't find library libfglrx_gamma.so.1 needed by debian/fglrx-driver/usr/bin/fglrx_xgamma (its RPATH is ''). |
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| 07:24.03 | cafuego | fglrx, how come you need to ASK what is wrong? |
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| 07:24.25 | enouf | your LD_LIBRARY_PATH= might also need to be se |
| 07:24.27 | enouf | set |
| 07:24.42 | Farhadix | to where? |
| 07:24.43 | enouf | cafuego: we're getting there ... slowly .. heh |
| 07:25.02 | enouf | cafuego: dpkg-deb: ignoring 1 warnings about the control file(s) |
| 07:25.11 | enouf | is about where it is at ;-) |
| 07:25.58 | shams | i have two debian machine. bash of one of that do different between file and filders with color. but other has one color. how can i upgrade it to colored bash? |
| 07:26.37 | enouf | Farhadix: did you install private libs? in /usr/local/lib ? |
| 07:26.57 | Farhadix | no, my lenny is fresh |
| 07:27.03 | enouf | the contents of /etc/ld.so.conf should ... oh |
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| 07:28.37 | enouf | Farhadix: hrm .. looks like your missing some needed lib pkgs |
| 07:29.24 | enouf | perhaps xorg lib related .. no idea offhand - but you'll want the -dev pkgs too |
| 07:30.04 | enouf | shams: compare output of echo $LS_COLORS |
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| 07:35.47 | r1d3r | My wireless card is a ZyDAS zd1211 adapter, it worked fine on lenny beta2, but it doesnt connect to access point in the stable lenny, even though i installed the same driver, any one can help me? |
| 07:36.21 | cafuego | enouf: Ok, so it well and truly got past where mine threw a compiler error. Thanks! |
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| 07:37.43 | enouf | cafuego: wait :-) .. one sec |
| 07:38.10 | enouf | cafuego: it finally finished! ... http://rafb.net/p/NKxJSl13.html |
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| 07:39.37 | enouf | cafuego: ignore the inux-2.6.18-6-xen-vserver-686/ name - it;s only a dir name i had leftover that i throw stuff into - i'm using |
| 07:39.40 | enouf | cafuego: Linux version 2.6.26-1-686 (Debian 2.6.26-5) (waldi@debian.org) (gcc version 4.1.3 20080623 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.2-23)) #1 SMP Wed Sep 10 16:46:13 UTC 2008 |
| 07:39.58 | shams | enouf: this line? |
| 07:39.58 | shams | # export LS_OPTIONS='--color=auto' |
| 07:40.01 | kj4 | if I installed lenny a week before it was released, how can I 'upgrade' to the release version? |
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| 07:40.03 | enouf | cafuego: also, do you want me to show you the versions of all the depends pkgs? as shown in the dsc? |
| 07:40.17 | enouf | er debian/control file ... ? |
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| 07:44.53 | enouf | coniptor: saying "SATA root" sounds funny .. SATA is a drive specification/protocol/bus/interface .. not a NFSROOT or anything :-P |
| 07:45.13 | shams | enouf: i edit and comment out bellow line in /root/.bashrc. but after exit and logged in again, i can't see any change in color! help me plz. |
| 07:45.13 | shams | export LS_OPTIONS='--color=auto' |
| 07:45.13 | coniptor | I can boot to my old ide disk and decrypt my SATA raid1 pair but when I alter grub to boot from /dev/mapper/root it fails. |
| 07:45.37 | enouf | coniptor: i mean, you can basically drop the sata part as long as your controller is supported |
| 07:45.40 | coniptor | enouf: I mean my new LUKS root is on a SATA raid1 pair off a Intel ICH7 controller on my mainboard. |
| 07:45.52 | coniptor | enouf: ok didn't know if that matterd or not. |
| 07:46.03 | cafuego | enouf: Just tell me which gcc you're building with... |
| 07:46.06 | cafuego | enouf: 4.2.3? |
| 07:46.44 | shams | enouf: i fix it. tank you my friend |
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| 07:48.15 | enouf | shams http://rafb.net/p/lrYumT89.html |
| 07:48.37 | enouf | man .. what a sham .. |
| 07:48.53 | coniptor | enouf: initramfs was not including md-multipath but was including multipath I modified the hook script to include md-multipath which eliminated one error but now I get this: |
| 07:48.53 | coniptor | device-mapper: table: 253:0: multipath unknown path selector type |
| 07:48.53 | coniptor | device-mapper: ioctl: error adding target to table |
| 07:48.53 | coniptor | last_lba(): I don't know how to handle files with mode 21b0; read error, sector 0 then 1 then 29 |
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| 07:49.03 | enouf | cafuego: one sec |
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| 07:49.22 | coniptor | sorry about that. |
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| 07:50.16 | coniptor | LUKS encrypted root is currently supported in etch right? |
| 07:50.23 | aixenv | anyone have some good links on creating a slipstream for etch? |
| 07:50.37 | enouf | cafuego: gcc version 4.3.2 (Debian 4.3.2-1) |
| 07:51.04 | enouf | ~$ ls -l `which gcc` |
| 07:51.05 | enouf | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 2008-09-09 10:08 /usr/bin/gcc -> gcc-4.3 |
| 07:51.31 | cafuego | enouf: yeah, same as on the hosts here. |
| 07:51.33 | xroot | hi, is it possible to run "Endian Firewall" on my own server ? |
| 07:51.38 | cafuego | enouf: I think I'll just blame KVM. |
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| 07:52.10 | dubphil | anyone ? looks like I have a non dpkg ownd libc6 paquage, but I never install another glibc than the one provided by Etch, what can I do ? |
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| 07:52.26 | cafuego | aixenv: I expect etch uses preseed, so that's what you should google for :-) |
| 07:52.37 | aixenv | cafuego : ok cool ty |
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| 07:53.24 | enouf | heh - just remember though, i have an odd mix of older and fairly new to new stuff installed - most building stuff/tool/utils/pkgs should be ~ lenny versions though |
| 07:53.56 | enouf | aixenv: /msg dpkg preseeding |
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| 07:54.15 | hachi | hi, when booting a debian box over nfs root... when starting up the nfs-common daemons, in particular statd... I get a blocked boot |
| 07:54.28 | hachi | can anyone help me figure out why this is? |
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| 07:57.10 | enouf | coniptor: i dunno - the 1st part "device-mapper: table: 253:0: multipath unknown path selector type" might refer to your name/path is not an accepted one? like it needs to be /dev/device-mapper/vg0 or /dev/VG-00/LV-00/ or someshit? |
| 07:57.18 | enouf | coniptor: heh http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.26/Documentation/devices.txt#L3100 ruh roh |
| 07:57.18 | cafuego | enouf: Well, gcc crapped itself on a sprintf() call on the KVM box ... if you have an identical gcc and identical libc6 the problem should have happened to you as well I'm thinking. I can't replciate it on my Xen VM either, so I suppose the install on KVM is to blame. |
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| 07:58.19 | enouf | cafuego: hrm .. here's libc6 version ii libc6 2.7-13 GNU C Library: Shared libraries |
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| 08:00.34 | enouf | coniptor: is /boot on it's own unencrypted non-LVM partition? |
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| 08:00.57 | enouf | coniptor: otherwise you'd need grub2 - grub-pc and friends |
| 08:01.09 | coniptor | enouf: yes /boot is unencrypted and on the SATA raid1 and I can boot from it just fine. |
| 08:01.42 | LRU | to anyone having trouble with aptitude removing gnome during 'aptitude install aptitude', you need to 'dpkg --purge gnome' (meta package) first, otherwise aptitude seems to remove all gnome dependencies |
| 08:01.46 | enouf | coniptor: but your passing grub an LVM dest, not an mdadm one |
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| 08:02.06 | enouf | coniptor: you want /dev/md0 or whatever, not /dev/mapper |
| 08:02.24 | enouf | coniptor: is my best guess so far :-P |
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| 08:03.09 | enouf | hachi: all i can say is look at /etc/default/nfs* |
| 08:03.30 | coniptor | enouf: I'm not using LVM at all. /dev/md2 is my raid1 device which contains the LUKS encrypted root. So I need to use /dev/md2 instead of /dev/mapper/root and only fstab should need the reference to /dev/mapper/root? |
| 08:03.30 | enouf | and i guess your initrd settings in /etc/initramfs-tools/ |
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| 08:03.37 | coniptor | enouf: I will give that a try. ty =) |
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| 08:03.45 | trnzmeta | guys: when I apt-get install mtop, it does mtop --configure but since a pwd for root is already set, it can't finish off the install, and now blocks all other apt-get remove or install |
| 08:03.46 | r1d3r | Hi again, |
| 08:03.56 | trnzmeta | how to resolve? |
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| 08:04.26 | r1d3r | enouf: I check the driver, its the new one! (the zd1211rw) |
| 08:04.44 | enouf | coniptor: if i were you , i might even use root=UUID= or root=LABEL= .. in /etc/fstab, start the line with UUID= or LABEL= |
| 08:05.13 | dubphil | somebody already faces the libc6 package not recognized by dpkg while upgrading Etch to Lenny ? is there a solution somewhere to check ? |
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| 08:06.01 | enouf | trnzmeta: dpkg-reconfigure mtop? |
| 08:06.08 | enouf | never heard of that one yet |
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| 08:06.44 | enouf | dubphil: /msg dpkg debsums |
| 08:06.47 | enouf | perhaps |
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| 08:06.56 | cafuego | dubphil: What does 'dpkg -l | grep libc6' say? |
| 08:07.00 | coniptor | enouf: ok I'll try those as well. I'm just trying to get it to give me that darned LUKS passphrase prompt instead of dropping me to a (initramfs) error prompt. Not familiar with LUKS or LVM on Debian and not aware of a intro doc covering the basics of it all for someone who's been running on ext3 plain root for years. =) |
| 08:07.04 | enouf | r1d3r: is that good? |
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| 08:07.28 | coniptor | enouf: standard expected paths and all that. |
| 08:07.48 | coniptor | enouf: brb trying all that now. |
| 08:07.52 | hachi | enouf: I've looked at that file, however I do want statd running |
| 08:07.55 | enouf | coniptor: righto - there's docs floating about - but i understand |
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| 08:08.26 | coniptor | enouf: ty for understanding and help. bb shortly. |
| 08:08.35 | enouf | hachi: no idea - where's it launching from? |
| 08:08.48 | hachi | the nfs-common init script |
| 08:08.56 | hachi | and it hangs rather than starting up |
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| 08:09.17 | enouf | hrm .. hachi disable the service at boot? the sysv scripts |
| 08:09.25 | hachi | huh? |
| 08:09.26 | dubphil | cafuego: it gives this http://pastebin.com/d6c7b3b64 |
| 08:09.34 | enouf | or .. you need all the other things it does? |
| 08:09.45 | hachi | I want nfs statd running |
| 08:09.52 | enouf | you can set default options in the /etc/default/nfs* files |
| 08:09.59 | hachi | yes, I am looking at that |
| 08:10.02 | hachi | it's set correctly |
| 08:10.05 | hachi | it's set to start nfs statd |
| 08:10.06 | enouf | oh .. what do you NOT want running? |
| 08:10.15 | r1d3r | enouf: unfortunately no! it doesn't work on stable lenny, but it works on the beta2! |
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| 08:10.27 | hachi | I believe you are confusing my question with someone elses |
| 08:10.29 | trnzmeta | enouf: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: mtop is broken or not fully installed |
| 08:10.38 | hachi | I am having a problem with nfs statd startup hanging |
| 08:10.43 | enouf | r1d3r: does your pciid say that's the correct driver/module? |
| 08:10.44 | cafuego | dubphil: And 'apt-cache policy libc6' ? |
| 08:10.54 | enouf | trnzmeta: apt-get install -f |
| 08:10.55 | hachi | I do not want to remove anything from my startup... I want to get it working |
| 08:11.16 | cafuego | dubphil: The +b1 on its version is not right... it's from some other repo, I think. |
| 08:11.39 | enouf | hachi: sorry - > <hachi> enouf: I've looked at that file, however I do want statd running <-- for some reason i read that as i do NOT want ... |
| 08:12.01 | hachi | oh |
| 08:12.13 | hachi | no worries, it is a little hard to read lines like that |
| 08:12.16 | hachi | sorry bout that |
| 08:12.17 | enouf | hachi: can you make it more verbose? hrm.. |
| 08:12.26 | dubphil | cafuego: here is the apt-cache output : http://pastebin.com/d3a0e7f58 |
| 08:12.30 | r1d3r | enouf: its not a pci card, its usb |
| 08:12.34 | enouf | no no, twas my fault - no worries |
| 08:12.52 | enouf | r1d3r: i thoght so - it still has a usbid |
| 08:13.02 | enouf | use lsusb -v r1d3r |
| 08:13.11 | enouf | and info from dmesg maybe |
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| 08:13.36 | xingu | hachi: check /var/lib/nfs/sm{,.bak/*} |
| 08:13.53 | enouf | judd: versions libc6 |
| 08:13.53 | judd | enouf: libc6 -- etch: 2.3.6.ds1-13etch7 lenny: 2.7-18 sid: 2.7-18 experimental: 2.9-0exp2 |
| 08:14.01 | dubphil | cafuego: I haven't change the repos |
| 08:14.04 | enouf | dubphil: which arch? |
| 08:14.05 | xingu | hachi: you probably have a stale statd state entry from an nfs mount where the server is no longer online (or, unreachable) |
| 08:14.11 | cafuego | dubphil: Ok... it looks like that's from an etch update at some stage... the lenny libc6-dev is already installed, so you should be able to install the lenny lib6 just fine too |
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| 08:14.28 | dubphil | enouf : Linux server 2.6.18-6-686 #1 SMP Mon Aug 18 08:42:39 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 08:14.49 | hachi | xingu: /var/lib/nfs is actually a tmpfs cleared on each reboot :\ |
| 08:14.50 | enouf | ok |
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| 08:15.16 | cafuego | enouf: Does judd also scan security.d.o? Coz 2.3.6.ds1-13etch7 is old |
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| 08:15.33 | enouf | hachi: is /var up and mounted by the time nfsroot wants to mount? |
| 08:15.48 | hachi | I don't know |
| 08:15.51 | xingu | hachi: that's a design error |
| 08:15.54 | enouf | cafuego: i don't know :-/ |
| 08:15.57 | dubphil | cafuego: yes I would like to uinstall the Lenny libc6, but it doesn't want |
| 08:16.04 | cafuego | dubphil: So aptitude dist-upgrade errors on libc6? |
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| 08:16.15 | xingu | hachi: one of the reasons statd exists is to advise peers when the local node reboots |
| 08:16.17 | hachi | xingu: I can't find documentation on how to get nfs root debian working happily |
| 08:16.36 | xingu | hachi: it's fundamental to the nfsv3 locking model |
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| 08:16.53 | dubphil | cafuego: yes, the upgarding doc advises to prior upgrade aptitude that wants to upgrade libc6 and it fails |
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| 08:17.09 | hachi | I don't know where I'm going to store this though... so that's why I went with tmpfs |
| 08:17.09 | enouf | hachi: is your initrd configured? i mentioned earlier -> <enouf> and i guess your initrd settings in /etc/initramfs-tools/ |
| 08:17.15 | hachi | yes it is |
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| 08:17.23 | enouf | ok |
| 08:17.31 | cafuego | dubphil: Does it fail with a specific error?\ |
| 08:17.35 | hachi | wait, what do you mean by 'configured' |
| 08:17.42 | r1d3r | enouf: checked it, its the correct driver, and its listed as supported hardware in the debian wiki |
| 08:18.11 | enouf | r1d3r: ok - so what exactly is not working? any error messages? |
| 08:18.22 | hachi | cause I made a netboot initrd... that's all I really did |
| 08:18.24 | dubphil | cafuego: it fails with this error : http://pastebin.com/d514a1a99 |
| 08:18.33 | xingu | hachi: if this is something you're cooking together I'd suggest you use nfsv4 (hence, avoid statd and nfsv3 locking altogether) |
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| 08:19.13 | hachi | how do you specify a nfsv4 on the kernel boot line? |
| 08:19.37 | enouf | r1d3r: check /msg dpkg 70 see if your card's HWaddr matches the MAC listed in there - if it's there at all -- also, show us what ls /sys/class/net says |
| 08:19.40 | r1d3r | enouf: it can find access points, but doesn't connect to them (tried with 3 APs), no error messages |
| 08:20.10 | enouf | r1d3r: how are you connecting? iwlist scan ? |
| 08:20.16 | enouf | network-mangler? |
| 08:20.39 | r1d3r | enouf: no, i'm on the lenny beta2 now. |
| 08:20.43 | enouf | really needs to eat something |
| 08:20.52 | enouf | r1d3r: live-cd boot? |
| 08:21.18 | cafuego | dubphil: Ah ok, no problem. Just remove the old config for libc6-i686 via 'dpkg --purge libc6-i686' and then rerun the dist-upgrade. This will *NOT* remove libc6, just the config for the optimised libc6 that isn't installed anymore anyway. |
| 08:21.20 | enouf | r1d3r: lenny beta 2 is an installer version AFAICT |
| 08:21.30 | liable | yup |
| 08:21.36 | r1d3r | enouf: its installed on hdd |
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| 08:22.07 | enouf | r1d3r: so, two separate installs? any VM involved? |
| 08:22.23 | hachi | xingu: nfsvers= only accepts 2 and 3... I think |
| 08:22.33 | hachi | I don't know how to specify v4 |
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| 08:23.23 | dubphil | cafuego: ok should I really run the dist-upgrade thought I'm only at the step to upgrade aptitude for the subsequent dist-upgrade ? |
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| 08:24.14 | xingu | hachi: you'd need to do it from within the initrd itself |
| 08:24.35 | cafuego | dubphil: Oh... no just continue with the steps as specified by the docs then. |
| 08:24.54 | cafuego | dubphil: To be honest, just dist-upgrading worked fine on my servers ;-) |
| 08:26.02 | dubphil | cafuego: arf I have the same error even if I did dpkg --purge libc6-i686 just before |
| 08:26.16 | xingu | hachi: you're quite correct, it's not supported by the kernel's bootparm, you'd need to create a custom initrd boot script to do this; which makes me wonder if the ltsp guys have already cracked this nut entire... |
| 08:26.28 | hachi | :\ |
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| 08:26.52 | hachi | xingu: do you know how to disable portmap shutdown on reboot/halt? I could use update-rc.d, but the next time portmap is installed it will override my choice to disable the shutdown |
| 08:26.54 | cafuego | dubphil: Does 'dplg -l | grep libc6' still show "rc libc6-i686" ? |
| 08:27.33 | enouf | hachi: rename the symlink |
| 08:27.45 | hachi | which one? |
| 08:28.00 | dubphil | cafuego: I have this now : http://pastebin.com/d5c1f4015 |
| 08:28.03 | hachi | the one that update-rc.d will recreate the next time portmap is configured? |
| 08:28.13 | trnzmeta | enouf: bloody hell took off pwd to db temp, installed mtop and back on my way |
| 08:28.14 | jaggz | how do I mark a package as Auto-installed from cli? |
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| 08:28.33 | trnzmeta | not ideal but it's time to head home |
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| 08:29.42 | r1d3r | enouf: this is the output of the "/sys/class/net" |
| 08:29.51 | r1d3r | enouf: eth1 lo wlan0 wmaster0 |
| 08:29.58 | jaggz | ah, aptitude markauto? |
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| 08:31.42 | jaggz | damn.. amarok's compile said cdbs (and other packages) were dependencies, so I installed those to get it to compile, then installed the final .deb's, but now when I mark those as auto aptitude wants to remove them |
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| 08:32.22 | enouf | hachi: /etc/rc[12].d/SNNportmap change it to K00 .. here's what i have after using rcconf, which hold a database file of what the orig SNN was http://pastebin.ca/raw/1340868 |
| 08:32.50 | hachi | no, I need to prevent it from being stopped at shutdown |
| 08:33.11 | adama | is there a way to transfer a stopped job to another terminal? |
| 08:33.17 | hachi | portmap is needed to keep the nfsroot up, so if you try to stop it... it just hangs |
| 08:33.36 | hachi | or, that's what it seems to be |
| 08:33.41 | hachi | I'm not an expert on this |
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| 08:34.23 | enouf | r1d3r: ok - so .. what's your /etc/network/interfaces look like, how about ifconfig -a and/or iwconfig -a ... and that 70-persistent-net.rules file ? |
| 08:35.11 | r1d3r | enouf: wait, i have to reboot again ;) |
| 08:35.12 | enouf | hachi: how can anything keep running on shutdown? O_o |
| 08:35.27 | TuxTepec | Someone knows how to install new language in Debian Lenny? |
| 08:35.27 | hachi | during shutdown |
| 08:35.37 | hachi | during the transition into runlevel 0 or 6 |
| 08:35.43 | enouf | hachi: unless you want to remove the KNNportmap in rc0,d and rc6.d |
| 08:35.51 | hachi | the problem is |
| 08:35.54 | hachi | if I remove them |
| 08:36.05 | hachi | the next time portmap is upgraded it will recreate them |
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| 08:36.26 | hachi | I can't figure out how to assert to the system that I actually want to force this |
| 08:36.31 | enouf | reame them to SNN ... or loook at a pkg such as insserv, or something |
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| 08:36.52 | anddam | hello |
| 08:37.04 | enouf | hachi: put portmap on hold at the least, so it's not upgraded maybe? |
| 08:37.41 | Mousey | hachimaki! |
| 08:39.00 | anddam | zlib1g doesn't provide /usr/lib/libz.so while zlib1g-dev does, is this intentional? |
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| 08:39.12 | anddam | I'm asking as hardinfo relies on that link |
| 08:39.19 | xingu | hachi: the correct answer is - send a patch for the init script to the maintainer; what you need to do is detect nfsroot and in that instance not attempt to kill portmapper |
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| 08:39.36 | enouf | hachi: a pkg like sysv-rc-conf allows you to tick/untick all services, in each runlevel, rc0-6,S .. i'm not sure what exactly it does if you untick the 0 and 6 for portmap - give a looksee |
| 08:39.42 | anddam | but it feels somehow unnatural to install a -dev library only to get a runtime link |
| 08:39.58 | enouf | !win xingu |
| 08:39.58 | dpkg | Congratulations, xingu! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
| 08:41.58 | coniptor | In the interests of not putting a heavy daily or weekly load on the debian rsync mirrors does anyone know of a subscription service the presses quality dvd's for each update? |
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| 08:42.28 | nikolaz | hi |
| 08:42.28 | coniptor | and previous versions as well not just current? |
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| 08:42.46 | nikolaz | anyone using thunar file manager? |
| 08:42.59 | shams | can you introduce me a good tools for backing up of my file system and mysql? |
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| 08:43.54 | coniptor | I'm aware of the link off of debian.org for cd's and dvd media but those are one time purchases. does a subscription service exist to anyone's knowledge? |
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| 08:44.26 | enouf | r1d3r: you realize you do not need to reboot ;-) |
| 08:44.36 | enouf | r1d3r: you can chroot and get the info :-) |
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| 08:45.06 | r1d3r | enouf: how? |
| 08:45.31 | nikolaz | e |
| 08:45.54 | enouf | r1d3r: become root ; mkdir /mnt/point ; chroot /mnt/point ; mount /proc ; ifconfig -a |
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| 08:46.41 | Kohvihoor | can i direct a sound channel to specific user? |
| 08:46.45 | enouf | r1d3r: once you chroot , run ls , and notice the output diff from your other install |
| 08:46.53 | Kohvihoor | like if a have a sound card with multiple outputs |
| 08:47.09 | Kohvihoor | and i want to direct one output to user A and the other output to user B |
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| 08:47.22 | nikolaz | e17 |
| 08:47.22 | dubphil | while trying to update aptitude before upgrading to Lenny, I have this error : http://pastebin.com/d514a1a99 I have then remove libc6-i686 like this : dpkg --purge libc6-i686, but I still get the error, what can I do then ? |
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| 08:48.11 | r1d3r | enouf: http://pastebin.ca/1340877 |
| 08:48.12 | nikolaz | .deb plase |
| 08:48.29 | enouf | coniptor: the #debian-cd mailing list? :-P |
| 08:48.45 | enouf | coniptor: btw, how's that mdadm, luks, lvm thing going? |
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| 08:49.04 | nikolaz | plase |
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| 08:49.19 | coniptor | enouf: waiting for my ide root to finish it's fsck more than 35 boots without fsck taking a bit =/ |
| 08:49.38 | enouf | heh |
| 08:49.38 | nikolaz | please |
| 08:50.05 | shams | can you introduce me a good tools for backing up of my file system and mysql? |
| 08:50.18 | hachi | tar and mysqldump |
| 08:50.25 | liable | nikolaz: what is the question? |
| 08:50.28 | epsilon | and gzip |
| 08:50.31 | coniptor | enouf: once it finishes (hopefully soon, need some z's) then I'll try |
| 08:50.44 | nikolaz | halo friends |
| 08:50.49 | nikolaz | e17 please |
| 08:51.24 | liable | nikolaz: debian doesnt package it because the dev wont release it. you have to get debs from a third party |
| 08:51.25 | nikolaz | opengeu debian probem |
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| 08:51.48 | r1d3r | enouf: i tried what you suggested and got this: "Warning: cannot open /proc/net/dev (No such file or directory). Limited output." |
| 08:51.50 | liable | nikolaz: whats your native language? |
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| 08:52.15 | enouf | Kohvihoor: i can think of maybe tying some alsa+pulseaudio thing to certain TTYs, or pts, or ... hrm .. maybe setting up each user with their own ~/.asoundrc but alter each one ? |
| 08:52.38 | enouf | r1d3r: you didn't mount /proc prior |
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| 08:53.47 | enouf | r1d3r: and make sure you tell me which install you're chroot'd into :-P |
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| 08:53.56 | enouf | beta 2? or Stable |
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| 08:54.35 | enouf | nikolaz: what is your native language? |
| 08:54.38 | nikolaz | halo dear compagnion |
| 08:54.48 | nikolaz | deb for e17 |
| 08:55.02 | nikolaz | marrueco |
| 08:55.03 | enouf | judd versions e17 |
| 08:55.04 | judd | enouf: e17 -- experimental: 0.16.999.050+svn20081207-2 |
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| 08:55.20 | liable | judd: its in experimental? |
| 08:55.21 | judd | liable: Error: "its" is not a valid command. |
| 08:55.25 | enouf | nikolaz: feeling er .. experimental? :P |
| 08:55.26 | liable | bah |
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| 08:55.47 | liable | forgot about that damn bot |
| 08:56.04 | r1d3r | enouf: one thing came to my mind, if i just upgrade my beta installation to stable, will my wireless break again? |
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| 08:56.50 | enouf | liable: you're familiar with the <break> nickname factoid, right? i tried to make a <really break> one referring to exp rather than sid - i almost got it too , but messed it up and had to call don in to remove my borkage :-P |
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| 08:57.17 | liable | nope, which factoid is that? |
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| 08:57.32 | enouf | r1d3r: i can't say - figure out what's the diff |
| 08:57.49 | enouf | !break nikolas |
| 08:57.49 | dpkg | tells nikolas how to replace stable with unstable in his sources.list |
| 08:58.00 | linlin | has anyone installed boxxee on debian? |
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| 08:58.01 | liable | oh, heh |
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| 08:58.42 | enouf | !info e17 experimental |
| 08:58.52 | dpkg | e17: (The Enlightenment DR17 Window Manager), section x11, is optional. Version: 0.16.999.050+svn20081207-2 (experimental), Packaged size: 1511 kB, Installed size: 3766 kB |
| 08:59.19 | liable | i might give it a try when it hits sid. had to compile it last time i tried it |
| 08:59.23 | enouf | liable: no idea what you were trying to get judd to tell you |
| 08:59.28 | enouf | ok |
| 08:59.36 | liable | enouf: i forgot it was a bot :P |
| 08:59.44 | enouf | haha :-P |
| 08:59.46 | cafuego | nachos! |
| 08:59.52 | liable | i didnt notice your call to it.. |
| 09:00.07 | r1d3r | enouf: ok, i'll try this, i hope it will work. Thanks for your time. |
| 09:00.08 | Nixoeen | Anyone knows a good data center in UK which provide Dedicated Servers with Debian OS ? |
| 09:00.15 | enouf | !confuse liable |
| 09:00.15 | dpkg | No, them was my badger tomorrow, liable? wellies of the republic of mongolia with extra anchovies |
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| 09:00.52 | enouf | r1d3r: welcome - but you might end up with 2 broken wifis, whereas now, you have one working ;-) |
| 09:01.11 | dubphil | nobody can help me ? |
| 09:01.29 | enouf | r1d3r: to leave the chroot, umount /proc ; exit |
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| 09:01.40 | Nixoeen | dubphil, what's your question ? |
| 09:01.53 | r1d3r | enouf: ok, thx again |
| 09:02.03 | enouf | dubphil: what happened? |
| 09:02.09 | liable | eek |
| 09:02.15 | liable | never seen that before |
| 09:02.29 | enouf | ? |
| 09:02.48 | enouf | ¿ |
| 09:02.57 | dubphil | while i'm trying to update aptitude before upgrading to Lenny, I have this error : http://pastebin.com/d514a1a99 I have then remove libc6-i686 like this : dpkg --purge libc6-i686, but I still get the error, what can I do then ? |
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| 09:04.00 | enouf | dubphil: boot into recovery / rescue mode and try it - use apt-get instead |
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| 09:04.48 | Nixoeen | dubphil, write this : apt-get -f install |
| 09:05.01 | Nixoeen | dubphil, and tell me what happens |
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| 09:05.27 | enouf | dubphil: and use LANG=C prior to each command you run, that you will pastebin |
| 09:05.42 | dubphil | Nixoeen: that is not going to break my system ? |
| 09:05.48 | enouf | or just export LANG=C in your shell |
| 09:05.52 | dubphil | enouf: ok I will do this |
| 09:05.58 | enouf | no |
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| 09:06.03 | enouf | no break |
| 09:06.11 | enouf | man apt-get see -f |
| 09:06.21 | Nixoeen | dubphil, it may ! Just check which packages it will remove, and then reinstall them |
| 09:06.23 | dubphil | sorry brake |
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| 09:06.42 | enouf | dubphil: Nixoeen: then use -s as well! |
| 09:06.49 | dubphil | Nixoeen: ok |
| 09:07.14 | enouf | dubphil: break is correct spelling there |
| 09:07.27 | enouf | a brake helps cars stop :-) |
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| 09:08.47 | dubphil | oups sorry |
| 09:08.58 | liable | mm, alcohol, must be beer time! |
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| 09:09.11 | dubphil | Nixoeen:I have the same error : http://pastebin.com/d69096bfa |
| 09:09.12 | Nixoeen | enouf, why -s ? |
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| 09:13.49 | benje | hello i have some problem with packages linux-image-2.6.18.6-686 which i can find at debian server (error 500) it's in incoherent state so i have to reinstall to use apt |
| 09:14.22 | benje | under etch |
| 09:14.30 | enouf | Nixoeen: what does -s do? |
| 09:15.01 | liable | erm, you shouldnt be installing that on etch |
| 09:15.22 | liable | uh, ignore me |
| 09:15.23 | Nixoeen | enouf, simulate the process |
| 09:15.35 | liable | i seem to be having reading comprehension issues |
| 09:16.25 | Nixoeen | dubphil, it was the output of apt-get install -f ? |
| 09:16.26 | enouf | !beer liable |
| 09:16.26 | dpkg | pulls out a fine Spaten Pils for liable |
| 09:16.31 | benje | is there a place where i can found old package get back from officail repository ? |
| 09:16.50 | dubphil | Nixoeen: unfortunately yes |
| 09:17.06 | enouf | dubphil: show the command you ran in your pastes from now on please |
| 09:17.39 | dubphil | enouf: ok |
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| 09:18.23 | enouf | dubphil: is your gcc/g++ versions also screwy? |
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| 09:19.34 | enouf | dubphil: do you have things related installed into /usr/local/* if so, make uninstall them or whatever - where on earth did you get this whacko libc6? |
| 09:20.17 | Nixoeen | benje, some of them will be available in official repository. You can browse the repository with your browser (Iceweasel), and see if you find what you want, or not. |
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| 09:22.41 | dubphil | enouf: I have no error concerning gcc/g++ and nothing related to glibc in /usr/local |
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| 09:23.43 | dubphil | enouf: just before trying to upgrade to lenny, I had a libc6 upgrade at the Etch level |
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| 09:23.55 | enouf | dubphil: well .. it says a non-dpkg owned .. find the pkg - is it in /opt ? |
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| 09:24.31 | dubphil | enouf: I have nothing in /opt |
| 09:24.32 | enouf | dubphil: please remove that copy of the C library and try again. |
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| 09:24.51 | dubphil | enouf which copy ? where is it ? |
| 09:24.54 | enouf | well ... forget about upgrading aptitude, use apt-get |
| 09:25.02 | enouf | you tell me! |
| 09:25.31 | enouf | judd: versions libc6-i686 |
| 09:25.32 | judd | enouf: libc6-i686 -- etch: 2.3.6.ds1-13etch7 lenny: 2.7-18 sid: 2.7-18 experimental: 2.9-0exp2 |
| 09:25.50 | benje | Nixoeen: apt tell me that he can found , i try manually but it seem to be the same , no package of this name |
| 09:26.01 | dubphil | enouf yes but it was in the process of setting my Etch uptodate before the "to" Lenny upgrade |
| 09:26.44 | Nixoeen | benje, download the file manually, and install it using dpkg |
| 09:27.36 | benje | Nixoeen: this is what i wanbt but i can found it i see debian-archive maybe here |
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| 09:28.58 | Nixoeen | benje, also if you installed it before, and didn't do a apt-get clean, you may find it in /var/cache/apt/archive |
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| 09:29.53 | enouf | dubphil: find the pkg 2.3.6.ds1-13etch9+b1.deb , then dpkg -i it, then dpkg -P it |
| 09:30.10 | enouf | grah .. |
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| 09:30.44 | enouf | i asked you to reboot in recovery / single mode and do this . |
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| 09:32.04 | enouf | maybe you should dist-upgrade , with securtiy.debian.org main contrib non-free also listed as well as standard etch lines |
| 09:33.30 | ronr | hi, lately my debian (lenny) machine is getting slower and slower (kde and especially firefox react very slowly), is there some kind of test suite I can run to figure out what the **** is the problem? top shows loads usually between 0 and 0.6 and there doesn't seem to be much swapping going on |
| 09:33.49 | dubphil | enouf: ok I can't reboot for now, but I will do it when I will be able to , Thanks a lot ! |
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| 09:34.36 | Nixoeen | ronr, in Gnome there is an application called gnome-system-monitor which you can see the processes, and their usage |
| 09:34.38 | Ip_Man | http://mirror7.escomposlinux.org/comic/ecol-160-e.png |
| 09:34.45 | Nixoeen | ronr, you may use top |
| 09:34.53 | Nixoeen | ronr, or find something similar in KDE |
| 09:34.58 | yopyop | hey, what was the question to ask to dpkg to get how to fix key thing problem ? i wanted to add squeeze to my mirror with debmirror and i dont remember where i can find the key |
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| 09:36.28 | ronr | Nixoeen: yeah... but top isn't showing any particular process eating up everything (just xorg and FF and icedove eating up some resources, which is to be expected) |
| 09:36.42 | ronr | I'm starting to thing maybe my hd is failing or some memory has gotten bad |
| 09:37.17 | liable | firefox is a pig that can slow everything down even though top doesnt show it imo |
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| 09:37.45 | liable | flash seems to be the usual culprit |
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| 09:38.10 | tomodachi | flash is instant death |
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| 09:38.29 | craigevil | yes, flash or java, the ram/cpu those use doesn't seem to be released until iceweasel is closed |
| 09:38.36 | ronr | liable: I'm using the flashblock addon, that should fix that right? |
| 09:38.42 | tomodachi | installing adblock plus for ff can save you some cpu/ram |
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| 09:38.53 | harez | hi |
| 09:38.56 | enouf | yopyop: listvals amnd listkeys |
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| 09:39.04 | yopyop | thanks |
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| 09:39.27 | liable | ronr: dunno. its one of those things that i have just resigned to the fact that FF is an icreasingly buggy piece of poo |
| 09:40.05 | Nixoeen | ronr, what happens when you close FF ? |
| 09:40.25 | Nixoeen | ronr, Adobe Flash eat a lot of process most of the times |
| 09:40.27 | enouf | ronr: start learning what real debugging is - you're going to need it, lmao |
| 09:41.57 | ronr | Nixoeen: things get to work faster, which is to be expected because right now I just run kde with a few terminals and ksirc (would be real bad if that got slow) |
| 09:42.22 | ronr | hmmm... maybe it's just time for a new computer :) |
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| 09:58.08 | maligor | whoever asked about the raid issue, ask again ;) |
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| 09:58.08 | liable | no, it was boring |
| 09:58.08 | enouf | "I think i can just unplug this one to use for my Vaccuum" |
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| 09:58.09 | maligor | cmyers_, you might have more chance of answers now ;) |
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| 10:04.24 | enouf | cafuego: well, before i wipe all this mysql stuff - any other info you need? here's the pkgs it built http://rafb.net/p/am7ZCy31.html |
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| 10:11.45 | toolz | hi, I have installed proftpd on a debian machine and after I add new users to it... logins are not recognised when they try to connect via ftp |
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| 10:15.35 | cafuego | enouf: Oh... no... it was just a question of whether or not they would build at all... |
| 10:15.52 | sjokkis | i've noticed that some processes print well-formatted messages when they start or stop (such as "* Stopping PostgreSQL 8.3 database server [ok]"). i can't find this explicitly set in their init.d-files, and i'd like to make all the processes that start up when i boot print the same way. what to do guys? |
| 10:15.56 | cafuego | enouf: You can trash the build dirs, thanks for testing it :-) |
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| 10:16.19 | gnuanu | i couldnt login to my sid after setting dual boot to fedora 10 |
| 10:16.23 | enouf | cafuego: ok - np ;-) |
| 10:16.27 | cafuego | sjokkis: The init files use a helper script to display these messages. |
| 10:16.47 | sjokkis | cafuego: a helper that's common to all of them? |
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| 10:17.39 | simonrvn | of course |
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| 10:18.22 | sjokkis | thanks |
| 10:18.35 | enouf | sjokkis: try looking at the bootlogd related stuff maybe, the other stuff you see is from the kernel ring buffer (dmesg) - but i guess bootlog just grabs a part of that (timewise and bootphase wise) and send it to log (var/log/boot) |
| 10:18.44 | pmjdebruijn | when I install cups on lenny, I'm getting avahi-daemon/dbus as a dependancy... however after the install, I can remove avahi-daemon/dbus without pulling cups out as well... what's up with this? is there a new dependancy type? is there a way to not install optional dependancies? |
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| 10:19.24 | jan247 | hi guys. quick one -- where can i save ssh profiles.. i'd like to save the username and port number i use in one of our servers. ny hint where to look? |
| 10:19.35 | sjokkis | enouf: do you think most projects have considered this approach, and that those who print ugly output have chosen it deliberately, or would they appreciate patches? |
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| 10:19.51 | sjokkis | lol impossible to answer |
| 10:20.05 | enouf | sjokkis: i mean what you see is the kernel ring buffer, then init starts and the scripts also print messages to /dev/console (or tty0 or whatever) i am thinking |
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| 10:20.27 | sjokkis | yeah, i understand |
| 10:20.33 | enouf | sjokkis: knoppix for one takes pains to make it purdy :-P |
| 10:20.34 | toolz | any idea? |
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| 10:20.48 | sjokkis | enouf: debian doesn't, i guess |
| 10:20.59 | enouf | see their general startup script - it's in the minirt.gz, IIRC |
| 10:21.05 | liable | no, we like brown |
| 10:21.09 | simonrvn | sjokkis: /lib/lsb/init-functions |
| 10:21.09 | sjokkis | most of my processes print pretty output, but not all |
| 10:21.17 | sjokkis | so i guess it's up to each project or something |
| 10:21.22 | sjokkis | simonrvn: <3 |
| 10:21.23 | enouf | sjokkis: many just suppress all messages with 'quiet' :-P |
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| 10:23.37 | sjokkis | i'm taking pains to make my setup prettier. it's my project for the day |
| 10:23.41 | sjokkis | i've already set up a bootsplash |
| 10:24.00 | nkuttler | hm, exim did already run as user Debian-exim in etch, didn't it? I'm getting permission denied error with mailman since upgrading.. |
| 10:24.02 | sjokkis | i'm gonna make it as pretty as possible without installing anything gay like gnome or kde |
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| 10:25.38 | jaggz | can I tell the package system that a package is a dependency of another, even though it wouldn't otherwise think it? |
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| 10:26.19 | enouf | !equivs |
| 10:26.19 | dpkg | equivs is, like, a package that enables you to create dummy packages that tell apt you really have installed (through some other means) the package. apt-get install equivs, and read /usr/share/doc/equivs/*, or see also <usrlocal> |
| 10:27.00 | enouf | !dpkg-divert |
| 10:27.23 | enouf | !divert |
| 10:27.23 | dpkg | Don't try to convince dpkg to overwrite files and don't start playing with "--force" options for dpkg. Instead, "divert" one of the files out of the way so that there is no conflict. See man dpkg-divert and also http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ap-pkg-diversions.html. Working with the package management system is much easier than trying to work against it. |
| 10:27.52 | toolz | after I add a new shell in /etc/shells, what should I do for it to be recognised? |
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| 10:28.40 | sjokkis | !recognize |
| 10:28.48 | sjokkis | aw |
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| 10:31.00 | YAA1 | ???????? apt-get update fails while aptitude update succeeds ..... see http://rafb.net/p/a6G1zH61.html - what's this ?! |
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| 10:32.48 | nkuttler | YAA1: man sources.list, your security lines are wrong |
| 10:33.11 | nkuttler | YAA1: actually, not only them.. |
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| 10:33.55 | enouf | !groups |
| 10:33.55 | dpkg | methinks groups is file:///usr/share/doc/base-passwd/users-and-groups.html, or ask me about <group><desktop groups>, or see http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-opersys.html |
| 10:34.05 | nkuttler | YAA1: and /msg dpkg security |
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| 10:35.34 | stubram | i want to encrypt traffic for the browser...please givwe some ideea for some kind of programmes |
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| 10:35.59 | dusty | Hey guys, I am having real trouble creating an SSH Tunnel and getting it to bind to the external interface - It keeps binding to local host as you can see here: http://rafb.net/p/DZvtld77.html anyone got any idea why it is doing this ? |
| 10:36.08 | petemc | stubram: tor |
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| 10:36.35 | OpenTokix | dusty: its correct |
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| 10:36.48 | stubram | petemc: tor anonymazer traffic, but not encrypt |
| 10:36.55 | petemc | doesnt it offer ssl? |
| 10:36.55 | OpenTokix | dusty: your localhost:9999 will connect to dusty.homelinux.net via 217.174.252.16 |
| 10:37.04 | nkuttler | dusty: #ubuntu |
| 10:37.14 | nkuttler | stubram: what's wrong with https? |
| 10:37.30 | petemc | stubram: it does encryption |
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| 10:37.46 | sjokkis | stubram: you can't just decide you want to encrypt everything. it's not a one-way process |
| 10:37.55 | stubram | sjokkis: the problem is were i found a server for a tunnel |
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| 10:38.06 | sjokkis | is were what? |
| 10:38.08 | OpenTokix | stubram: squid |
| 10:38.11 | zimnyx_ | In what directory should I install binary package (bin, libs, docs - all in one dir, similar to java jre) ? /usr/local/lib/binary-package-name is OK with distro philosophy? |
| 10:38.32 | zimnyx_ | it's tgz, notdeb |
| 10:38.41 | jcm | hi, I'm trying to get crontasks send mails to an external address; I added MAILTO:me@mysite.com in crontab and restarted cron. But mails are still addressed to the simple user of the box. |
| 10:38.43 | enouf | nkuttler: i found this; Debian-exim:x:102:102::/var/spool/exim4:/bin/false |
| 10:38.58 | nkuttler | zimnyx_: debain should be fine with everything that adheres to the fhs |
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| 10:39.03 | OpenTokix | stubram: I use openvpn to me linux-server wich is running a squid and then I add my openvpn-server as a proxy in my browser, for private browsning |
| 10:39.38 | OpenTokix | stubram: you can also use ssh-tunnel |
| 10:39.45 | YAA1 | nkuttler: better ?? http://rafb.net/p/24B7xV45.html |
| 10:39.50 | nkuttler | enouf: thanks |
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| 10:40.02 | enouf | nkuttler: and this in group Debian-exim:x:102: and this in shadow; Debian-exim:!:13269:0:99999:7::: |
| 10:40.33 | nkuttler | enouf: i don't really know what happened. adding exim to the list group should have fixed it though. |
| 10:40.34 | stubram | ok...but of what server for ss service i could connect? |
| 10:40.53 | dusty | OpenTokix: Ok, then how do I get it to bind to the external interface so i can connect to 9999 i dont want to do nc localhost 9999 as I want to do it from another server like so nc external_iinterface 9999 how? |
| 10:41.13 | dusty | nkuttler: that was my irc client messing up ;-] |
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| 10:41.17 | OpenTokix | dusty: Maybe with a reverse tunnel |
| 10:41.29 | OpenTokix | dusty: check a howto for ssh reverse tunnels, the concept is alittle more complex. |
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| 10:41.54 | OpenTokix | time for lunch |
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| 10:43.22 | stubram | where i found some ssh server where i can to connect? |
| 10:43.38 | enouf | nkuttler: me neither - my exim4 is old |
| 10:43.54 | liable | stubram: eh? what do you mean? |
| 10:44.08 | dusty | OpenTokix: Oh ok so its not something I am doing wrong, its just ssh tunnels will only work with localhost? |
| 10:44.24 | dusty | Can anyone else answer that ^ if he has gone to lunch :) ? |
| 10:44.27 | OpenTokix | dusty: yes, the whole point =) |
| 10:44.29 | nkuttler | dusty: um, no |
| 10:44.33 | enouf | nkuttler: run dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config ? man update-exim[TAB][TAB] ? |
| 10:44.43 | liable | you accidently the whole point? |
| 10:44.44 | dusty | nkuttler: what do you mean "um, no" ? |
| 10:44.46 | OpenTokix | dusty: there is many really good ssh-tutorials out there. |
| 10:44.50 | dusty | OpenTokix: Ok excellent, I will read up about that, thank you. |
| 10:44.58 | OpenTokix | dusty: please do, ssh is the bomb |
| 10:45.10 | OpenTokix | dusty: check out openvpn also - might solve your problem |
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| 10:47.01 | nkuttler | dusty: man ssh, see -L and -R |
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| 10:49.39 | dusty | Ok I have been reading and it says to use this ssh -nNT -R 9999:217.174.252.16:5901 dusty.homelinux.net which still doesn't do what I want. |
| 10:49.50 | dusty | nkuttler: -L is for local and -R is for remote.. i am using -r |
| 10:49.52 | dusty | err -R |
| 10:49.59 | dusty | I don't see why its not working.. |
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| 10:52.13 | sep | how can in increase verbosity of mysql startup ? i have a mysql that fails to start after a restore, i suspct some permission issues or something |
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| 10:52.48 | nkuttler | sep: check the logs? |
| 10:53.14 | sep | the question was how i can get them more verbose. since i can not spot the error there |
| 10:53.38 | sep | it saies ^G/usr/sbin/mysqld: Can't read dir of '/tmp/' (Errcode: 13) and ^G/usr/sbin/mysqld: File '/var/log/mysql/mysql-bin.index' not found (Errcode: 13) |
| 10:53.52 | sep | btu both are there and should be accessable to the mysql user |
| 10:54.07 | sep | and the ^G is included in the log line (very strange..) |
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| 10:56.46 | simonrvn | sep: it's a bell |
| 10:57.05 | sep | this is a vserver so i does not notice that |
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| 10:57.21 | simonrvn | type it in your console, and see ;) |
| 10:57.22 | nkuttler | sep: su'ing to the user is always a good start |
| 10:58.23 | liable | eww, freenode run gentoo |
| 10:59.42 | simonrvn | they do |
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| 10:59.55 | sep | su mysql |
| 10:59.55 | sep | Cannot execute /bin/false: Permission denied |
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| 11:00.37 | sep | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:04.46 | temoto | How to express 127.0.0.1 *.something in /etc/hosts ? |
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| 11:05.08 | eevar2 | did any updates in the last week or two break/change sun java on lenny? |
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| 11:05.18 | sep | any other tricks to try ? |
| 11:05.29 | eevar2 | no idea how it was originally installed |
| 11:05.56 | enouf | sep: su - ; /usr/sbin/mysqld |
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| 11:06.04 | fallenwrk | hello |
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| 11:06.16 | anddam | bye |
| 11:06.19 | fallenwrk | trying to install mod_auth_ldap |
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| 11:06.22 | fallenwrk | monitor:/home/max/modauthldap_apache2# ./configure --with-ldap-dir=/usr |
| 11:06.38 | fallenwrk | but it makes error: |
| 11:06.39 | enouf | su mysql means you're trying to become user mysql |
| 11:06.39 | fallenwrk | checking for path of LDAP SDK... configure: error: Cannot find ldap libraries in /usr/lib. |
| 11:06.42 | dusty | Hey guys, no matter what method I try local or reverse, for example: ] |
| 11:06.45 | simonrvn | su - ; sudo -u mysql -H mysqld & :P |
| 11:06.47 | fallenwrk | what libs does it need? |
| 11:07.13 | simonrvn | fallenwrk: take a wild guess... |
| 11:07.51 | dusty | Hey guys, no matter what method I try local or reverse, for example: ssh -R 9999:localhost:5900 root@217.174.252.16 they all bind to the local interface so I have to be on that box to make a connection to the tunnel, I want it to bind to the external interface so i can connect from pc -> ssh tunnell -> ssh tunnel destination, how can i achieve this i am thinking this i snot possible now as I have exhausted every possible way - what am i missing ? |
| 11:08.07 | simonrvn | that erorr message is a bit misleading, granted, but not totally off. |
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| 11:08.23 | enouf | lmao @ snot |
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| 11:08.30 | fallenwrk | simonrvn: i mean wath packages? |
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| 11:08.40 | fallenwrk | what |
| 11:08.57 | simonrvn | "snot possible" :D |
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| 11:09.35 | enouf | !phlegm |
| 11:09.35 | dpkg | well, phlegm is wonderful |
| 11:09.41 | enouf | haha |
| 11:09.53 | sep | enouf, i get the same 2 lines i see in syslog. /usr/sbin/mysqld: Can't read dir of '/tmp/' (Errcode: 13) and /usr/sbin/mysqld: File '/var/log/mysql/mysql-bin.index' not found (Errcode: 13) |
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| 11:10.15 | enouf | sep: is /tmp mounted? |
| 11:10.25 | simonrvn | sep: /tmp is readable? the files exists? |
| 11:10.28 | sep | none on /tmp type tmpfs (size=16m,mode=1777) |
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| 11:10.30 | simonrvn | exist* |
| 11:10.38 | enouf | do you have old stale lock files in there? or even /var/ ? |
| 11:10.44 | simonrvn | that's fine |
| 11:10.48 | sep | drwxrwxrwt 2 root root 60 Feb 18 12:10 tmp |
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| 11:11.00 | sep | nothing in /tmp |
| 11:11.12 | enouf | 16m? maybe not big enough? |
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| 11:12.27 | cusco | what is the name of the default picture viwer in gnome? |
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| 11:12.39 | simonrvn | fallenwrk: "wath"? pause and think a minute. you're compiling (the universe knows why). what do you need when compiling stuff? you need development tools. |
| 11:12.46 | RickyWh | whats the debian etch package manager called? |
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| 11:12.50 | sep | was enough before. but i can try increasing it. i would have expected a different error message |
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| 11:12.53 | simonrvn | eog |
| 11:12.55 | SzArAk | hi |
| 11:13.17 | simNIX | RickyWh, synaptic ? |
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| 11:13.23 | cusco | RickyWh: dkpg, apt (aptitude and apt-get) or synaptic |
| 11:13.31 | enouf | sep: google that exact error and error code13? |
| 11:13.38 | simonrvn | dusty: ip:port:ip:port doesn't work? |
| 11:13.43 | RickyWh | i want to install the latest ioncube loaders on my debian etch |
| 11:13.52 | SzArAk | is there any tool/script for generating some fake logs so i can test logwatch? doesnt need to be anything true |
| 11:14.07 | simonrvn | RickyWh: etch is oldstable now. |
| 11:14.23 | g00se | Is there something like debootstrap that i can run from etch that would build a (ahem) Ubuntu chroot? |
| 11:14.27 | cusco | SzArAk: why don't you just copy some log files from /var/log/? |
| 11:14.28 | RickyWh | what is oldstable? |
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| 11:14.39 | themill | g00se: debootstrap can do that for you |
| 11:14.49 | SzArAk | cusco: i could, but it supposed to be real-time |
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| 11:14.56 | cusco | RickyWh: exactly that - old stable |
| 11:15.00 | g00se | themill: ah didn't know. Just set to U repos? |
| 11:15.07 | SzArAk | i generate some logs, check results, generate again, results and so on |
| 11:15.08 | liable | i think debootstrap in debian has ubuntu scripts |
| 11:15.15 | sep | enouf, su -s /bin/bash mysql works on one machine, but this one just say permission denied |
| 11:15.20 | cusco | RickyWh: it means that there is a new stable release - lenny |
| 11:15.30 | simNIX | RickyWh, stable in been profen to be sloid over time, old as in there a newer mainstream version; lenny |
| 11:15.33 | RickyWh | is it safe to run debian etch 4? |
| 11:15.35 | simonrvn | liable: because ubuntu uses debian's ;) |
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| 11:15.56 | simonrvn | RickyWh: lenny released on the 14th... |
| 11:16.04 | liable | simonrvn: of course! :) |
| 11:16.26 | sep | Cannot execute /bin/bash: Permission denied |
| 11:16.34 | simonrvn | witf |
| 11:16.35 | temoto | How to express 127.0.0.1 *.something in /etc/hosts ? |
| 11:16.40 | SzArAk | cusco: anything? |
| 11:16.41 | themill | sep: when running a script? |
| 11:16.46 | simonrvn | sep: ls -ld / |
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| 11:16.56 | sep | when running su -s /bin/bash mysql |
| 11:17.01 | simNIX | I am runnig lenny testing for some times and kept it up with updates - I asume my system now is identical to debain lenny final ? |
| 11:17.04 | simonrvn | mount; cat /proc/mounts |
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| 11:17.07 | fallenwrk | simonrvn: so i am asking what tools do i need? |
| 11:17.10 | fallenwrk | =) |
| 11:17.12 | sep | drwxr-x--- 20 106 108 4096 Feb 18 10:59 / |
| 11:17.16 | sep | hum.. |
| 11:17.18 | cusco | SzArAk: I can only think of using a real logfile and generate activity on that logged function |
| 11:17.20 | mns | I am trying to get rpc.statd started but it keeps failing each time. Not sure what is causing it fail. Without that I can't mount NFS partition from my server. Any pointers/thoghts/suggestions ? |
| 11:17.38 | cusco | SzArAk: like /var/log/auth.log and logging in and out of the sistem many times |
| 11:17.46 | themill | g00se: there are howtos about on the ubuntu website for doing this. Available config scripts are in /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts/ |
| 11:17.59 | themill | sep: nice one... |
| 11:18.06 | cusco | what is the name of the default picture viwer in gnome? |
| 11:18.22 | g00se | themill: Thanks for that - as always |
| 11:18.23 | SzArAk | cusco: mhm. thx |
| 11:18.31 | sep | the restore must have borked some permissions badly.. :/ |
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| 11:18.37 | simonrvn | fallenwrk: well, you're building something that runs with ldap, right? put 2 and 2 together ;). |
| 11:18.57 | simonrvn | sep: would seem so :( |
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| 11:19.42 | apo_ | Hi, I just ran "getty 9600 ttyS0" on one of my boxes and tried to log in from another box using "screen /dev/ttyS0 9600" on it... I can connect, but the output is garbage: http://sprunge.us/DPiB |
| 11:19.59 | apo_ | (The two 'ash' came from me tying 'bash\n') |
| 11:19.59 | sonictwin | is ~/.local supposed to be owned by root? |
| 11:20.11 | apo_ | Does anybody know what I'm doing wrong? :| |
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| 11:23.49 | enouf | apo_: i don;t think your baud of 9600 is taking, pass a console= arg on the kernel line perhaps or something |
| 11:25.36 | enouf | apo_: hrm, try 9600n8 ? |
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| 11:26.31 | dusty | simonrvn: sorry for the late response, the tunnel works it just binds to localhost rather than the external interface.. and I am not sure why, so that means I cannot access the tunnel remotley i have to login to the tunnel box and then connect to the tunnel port... i want to be able to connect to the tunnel port external of the box ? |
| 11:27.33 | gunkamanti | has there ever been an attempt to build a centralized expert system to help with tech problems? |
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| 11:28.23 | enouf | apo_: you have a line in /etc/inittab for spawning the getty? S1:23:respawn:/sbin/getty -L ttyS0 9600 vt100 ? ... see http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.26/Documentation/serial-console.txt .. oh and does stty help ? maybe stty < /dev/ttyS0 9600 or something.. er |
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| 11:28.31 | gunkamanti | like one place on the web, where you can enter problems + solutions, and tag them, so others can find the answers. |
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| 11:29.35 | apo_ | enouf: No, I just ran that in bash. Not running anything at startup |
| 11:29.42 | apo_ | enouf: I don't wanna break my uptime =P |
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| 11:30.09 | enouf | ... |
| 11:30.15 | enouf | !reboot apo_ |
| 11:30.17 | liable | dont want your epenis to deflate? |
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| 11:30.18 | lockd | is it possible to install 32-bit gstreamer on a 64-bit install? |
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| 11:30.28 | lockd | the compatibility libs don't appear anywhere in apt |
| 11:30.34 | apo_ | enouf: It seems like there's something else running on it from one of my previous attempts, as it sometimes shows a bash prompts... Trying to find out what it is >_> |
| 11:31.44 | lockd | or do I need to manually build and maintain a gstreamer package? |
| 11:31.47 | enouf | apo_: at the least, i'd say you'd have to do something like edit inittab and run telinit -q or something like that - but ok ... i don't want to make you crash :-P |
| 11:32.14 | apo_ | enouf: It's working now \o/ |
| 11:32.35 | mns | What kind of questions would one expect in an interview for doing email admin (postfix/sendmail) ? |
| 11:32.35 | enouf | story is? |
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| 11:33.08 | apo_ | enouf: Somehow I still had a bash running on it that was interfering with stuff. |
| 11:33.37 | enouf | someone threw on the light switch? ... ahh too much bashes :-P |
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| 11:33.53 | lockd | anyone know if there's a gstreamer-32 package for amd64? |
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| 11:36.29 | p0g0 | liable: I have a nehemiah (a VIA C3 686 with no long no-ops) that historically required either a 386 kernel or a hand configured build to assure generic x86 support. Anyway, I've built 2.6.26-13 for this box after it got the Lenny-is-stable dist-upgrade. I used the vanilla config after assuring the critical X86 setting. This kernel has iptables (IPV4) set as a module, the module is autoloaded, but NAT and iptables fail. An example error is ""iptables |
| 11:36.30 | p0g0 | v1.4.2 can't initialize iptables table 'nat' : table does not exist (do you need to insmod?). Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded." lsmod shows ip_tables loaded" Any clues? |
| 11:37.24 | lockd | time to cross-compile... a LOT of packages |
| 11:37.51 | lockd | or is there a way to use apt-get build <package> with a certain architecture? |
| 11:38.48 | Trewas | p0g0: the debian-packaged -486 kernel should work on that |
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| 11:39.43 | p0g0 | Trewas: yeah, I guess retro is an option. |
| 11:39.45 | lockd | how can I build an old-fashioned tarball for x86? |
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| 11:42.37 | p0g0 | OK- How about, is the .config for the debian packaged kernels somewhere that I can inspect them, it's possible that i can use the 686 as packaged, and reading the .config is quicker than just trying it. |
| 11:42.39 | lockd | is there even a package to install to get -m32 support? |
| 11:42.58 | liable | p0g0: the iptables guys changed all the options a while back in the 24? kernel iirc. i had a similar issue a few months ago |
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| 11:43.23 | p0g0 | liable: and what did it take to fix? |
| 11:43.54 | lockd | so, do I need to build a custom gcc? |
| 11:44.07 | liable | p0g0: i dont remember exactly, but i had to start with a fresh config (ie not copy over an old config) |
| 11:45.05 | p0g0 | liable: Did that first off...no joy |
| 11:45.05 | lockd | hmm, guess it's 'multilib' packages |
| 11:46.04 | mne | Hi, is anyone using backup-manager or backupninja to create encrypted incremental backups ? My problem is that these backup tools usually work by first creating an incremental backup to a tmp directory and then encrypting and copying it to a remote storage place. For this reason the tmp directory needs to have enough free space for the backup. I would rather like the backup tool to _directly_ do incremental encrypted backups to the backup storage place so tha |
| 11:46.04 | mne | t I do not need to have a lot of free space on the local disks. Can you suggest something ? |
| 11:46.34 | p0g0 | I guess I'll just brute force this, install the 486 and 686 packaged kernels and test... The .configs are not around, as far as anyone knows? |
| 11:46.54 | lockd | is there a way to run 32-bit apps on 64-bit lenny? |
| 11:47.09 | liable | p0g0: which configs? |
| 11:47.19 | mne | lockd, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/534 |
| 11:47.29 | p0g0 | liable: the ones used to build the debian packaged kernels |
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| 11:47.52 | J_P | hi all |
| 11:47.54 | liable | p0g0: /boot/config-kernelversion |
| 11:47.54 | jelly | p0g0: in each package itself, among other places |
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| 11:48.40 | p0g0 | liable: so I have to install the whole enchilada to see that...OK, will do, |
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| 11:49.10 | jelly | p0g0: you don't technically _have to_ install, just download and extract |
| 11:49.19 | redspike | anyone know howto get adobe to display .pdf files right, if the font is helvetica adobe reader cant display them can i download the helvetica font in some package? |
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| 11:50.00 | lockd | mne: ah, I see. gonna be annoying being my own package manager |
| 11:50.10 | osFrenchDude1 | why the hell people send me forms to fill in *.doc... |
| 11:50.35 | p0g0 | jelly: yep. Thanks all. I'll share anything interesting... |
| 11:50.45 | zleap | i get that problem, try opening some of these in openoffice and they are badly designed, so don't seem to work properly |
| 11:50.54 | zleap | they assume you can afford to buy MS word |
| 11:50.58 | zleap | or MS office |
| 11:52.06 | dusty | Hey guys, no matter what method I try local or reverse, for example: ssh -R 9999:localhost:5900 root@217.174.252.16 they all bind to the local interface so I have to be on that box to make a connection to the tunnel, I want it to bind to the external interface so i can connect from pc -> ssh tunnell -> ssh tunnel destination, how can i achieve this i am thinking this i snot possible now as I have exhausted every possible way - what am i missing ? |
| 11:52.19 | liable | p0g0: i'm scratching my head and trying to remember what my exact error was, but this is similar .. http://www.usenet-forums.com/linux-general/404394-problems-iptables-after-upgrade-2-6-24-2-6-25-a.html |
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| 11:54.45 | liable | p0g0: this was my issue iirc.. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/iptables-v1.3.8-and-2.6.24-gentoo-r4-table-nat-637788/ |
| 11:54.45 | J_P | Hey all, are there any software that can test html pages. For example. In server I ruin it to try localhost:8080. If open page with sucess do a task, if not (after a timeout) do another task. Is possible? |
| 11:54.59 | liable | p0g0: it changed to NF_** |
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| 11:56.05 | themill | dusty: -R accepts a remote bind address too. Check man ssh. "By default, the listening socket on the server will be bound to the loopback interface only." |
| 11:56.21 | enouf | p0g0: do you have this pkg or a similar one installed? and i can't tell which exact cpu you have, although nehemiah seems to be covered - but seems you say something about no-ops http://packages.debian.org/lenny/libc6-i686 |
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| 11:57.32 | enouf | liable: oh yeah modinfo nf_{tab}{tab} ftw :-) |
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| 11:59.28 | p0g0 | liable: yes. And I am confused by the nf vs ip stuff too, tho both are enabled, and the iptables module is loaded and that is what is called explicitly. |
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| 12:00.04 | xinming | ,puncutation |
| 12:00.17 | xinming | How to invoke the bot? |
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| 12:00.26 | jpinx | !bot |
| 12:00.27 | dpkg | I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse). |
| 12:00.31 | liable | p0g0: start fresh and dont enable ip stuff, just the NF stuff. this is ringing bells in my head now |
| 12:00.43 | enouf | xinming: /msg dpkg msgthebot |
| 12:00.49 | jpinx | !smite xinming |
| 12:00.49 | dpkg | smites xinming with a plague of frogs |
| 12:01.04 | enouf | !bell liable |
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| 12:01.14 | enouf | runs |
| 12:01.21 | liable | DING DONG |
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| 12:01.47 | jpinx | !tell xinming about bot |
| 12:01.48 | enouf | knock knock |
| 12:01.54 | liable | p0g0: you shouldnt really see the ip stuff if you dont have a .config |
| 12:01.56 | p0g0 | liable: that link looks like my error...I'll try that, and the scripts that call ip tables, I think, has te same macros for nf...Trial by fire I guess. |
| 12:02.31 | liable | i cant even remember what i was doing when that happened, but it stumped me for a day or three |
| 12:02.42 | toshiba510cdt | i managed to install lenny on my toshiba 510cdt which is a Pentium 133Mhz laptop and everything works, except X. well, the LCD supports 800x600 at 16bit but at the moment all i can get is 640x480 at 24bit. can anyone help me? |
| 12:02.46 | p0g0 | liable: say that in anoter way, it didn't make sense... |
| 12:02.51 | p0g0 | *another |
| 12:03.06 | toshiba510cdt | please, have a look at http://pastebin.ca/1340396 |
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| 12:03.31 | liable | p0g0: if you run make_menuconfig without having a .config in your source, you should see the old iptables configs as option |
| 12:03.38 | jpinx | toshiba510cdt: I used to heve one of those laptops - sturdy workhorses;) |
| 12:03.50 | liable | s/should/should'nt/ |
| 12:04.26 | stuarticus | Hi guys, I have a headless machine that I go into over VNC, at the moment when I boot it headless the screen res is 640x480, with no option to increase, is there a way round this? |
| 12:04.48 | toshiba510cdt | <jpinx> it is a 13 year old laptop running debian gnu/linux 2009, aka lenny |
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| 12:04.53 | liable | p0g0: all the old iptables stuff changed completely. |
| 12:04.58 | p0g0 | liable: The iptables options are present in the config, and the 'old' iptables are enabled as modules. |
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| 12:05.29 | jpinx | toshiba510cdt: I upgraded to a Tecra T8000 500Mhz - hardly know myself now :) |
| 12:05.37 | p0g0 | liable: yep, and I fear I am in some nether place where both are a bit FUBAR... |
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| 12:05.49 | liable | p0g0: start menuconfig without a .config and go from there |
| 12:05.49 | jpinx | toshiba510cdt: it's running lenny very well |
| 12:06.11 | matt7676 | How to find all sockets, which have a longer queue than 0? Is there a some sort of utility for that or is it somewhere under /proc/net? |
| 12:06.15 | jpinx | toshiba510cdt: I reckon your problem is 16 bit screen - |
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| 12:06.20 | sugar_ | hi |
| 12:06.27 | p0g0 | liable: that's how I got the problem, new makemenu with no prior config. |
| 12:06.56 | sugar_ | I have made a dist-upgrade from etch to lenny and now the windows dont have titlebar anymore :-) |
| 12:07.07 | sugar_ | I allready did a dpkg-reconfigure -a |
| 12:07.16 | sugar_ | but no change |
| 12:07.17 | liable | p0g0: search for NF_ then and enable that |
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| 12:07.45 | toshiba510cdt | <jpinx> it was running etch before and X at 800x600 16 bit color but with lenny all i get is 640x480 :( |
| 12:08.03 | toshiba510cdt | i did a fresh lenny install from cd |
| 12:08.12 | p0g0 | but, I'll try three things, the packaged 486, 686, and a new makemenu after erasing the .config...You advise that I _not_ enable the iptables, only the NF tables? |
| 12:08.29 | jpinx | toshiba510cdt: Hmm - in that case I'm not sure. Has 16bit screen support been dropped in Lenny? |
| 12:09.08 | sugar_ | I am using gnome. when I try to change the window style gnome says I have no window manager installed |
| 12:09.16 | jpinx | toshiba510cdt: maybe go back - install etch and do a dist-upgrade? |
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| 12:09.28 | enouf | toshiba510cdt: hrm .. newer xorg driver / version? your lspci -nn looks sparse, like it's missing some items - Screen 0: minimum 640 x 480, current 640 x 480, maximum 640 x 480 <--from xrandr isn;t looking good |
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| 12:09.53 | liable | p0g0: with a new config, the NF stuff should be the only option. but of course i cant remember the exact config i had, just remember it being related to the modules changing to NF format |
| 12:10.03 | toshiba510cdt | <jpinx> i tried that but this ancient laptop choked so i had to do a fresh cd install |
| 12:10.30 | enouf | toshiba510cdt: you could try adding in your Mode line into xorg.conf that cvt output generated - each command could be separate - the ; is a separator of commands in the shell syntax (generally) |
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| 12:10.31 | dusty | themill: Is there anyway to get it to bind to the external interface and not the loop back interface ? |
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| 12:10.35 | p0g0 | liable: 'k, I'll give that a go, thanks. |
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| 12:11.09 | toshiba510cdt | <enouf> remember that i am a newbie so please tell me step by step what to do |
| 12:11.12 | themill | dusty: err... isn't that what I just said? -R takes an extra, optional argument... check the man page |
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| 12:12.08 | enouf | toshiba510cdt: also set Hor/Vert refresh rates and maybe even DisplaySize - see man wiki.x.org, man xorg.conf, "man chips" |
| 12:12.34 | enouf | bah - not man wiki.... but wiki.x.org heh |
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| 12:12.57 | stuarticus | Can I use xorg.conf to set my display resolution for my VNV session? |
| 12:13.06 | enouf | toshiba510cdt: using <nickname> like that appears like you're quoting the <nick> |
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| 12:14.39 | dusty | themill: i know you can give it like remoteip:port:ip:port and i give it the external interface ip yet it still binds to local host? |
| 12:14.41 | toshiba510cdt | <enouf> is there a console app that will let me do that? |
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| 12:15.20 | TimothyA | is there a command that will give me all hardware information about a box? |
| 12:15.23 | toshiba510cdt | something like xdebconfigurator but with multiple options questions |
| 12:16.08 | liable | TimothyA: lspci is usually enough. dmidecode can also give additional info |
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| 12:17.29 | dusty | themill: look at this: http://rafb.net/p/aXnpjz89.html and the man page says do this: -R [bind_address:]port:host:hostport so I really dont see what I am doing wrong ?> |
| 12:17.34 | toshiba510cdt | by the way command line wise how can i tell startx to erm, to start an X session with 800x600 at 16 bit color |
| 12:17.37 | toshiba510cdt | ? |
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| 12:18.29 | enouf | toshiba510cdt: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg used to be the way, now in Lenny and up, X -configure will make a minimal xorg.conf |
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| 12:19.12 | enouf | man startx, man xset - install a lightweight window manager for now |
| 12:19.15 | jpinx | toshiba510cdt: not sure if this is relevant - you'll need to red the details |
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| 12:19.34 | jpinx | toshiba510cdt: what desktop are you trying to run? |
| 12:19.49 | enouf | TimothyA: /msg dpkg what |
| 12:19.52 | toshiba510cdt | <jpinx> icewm |
| 12:19.58 | enouf | TimothyA: /msg dpkg what's my hardware |
| 12:19.59 | toshiba510cdt | very light |
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| 12:20.14 | jpinx | toshiba510cdt: yes - but not too clever, try lxde |
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| 12:20.29 | themill | dusty: "Specifying a remote bind_address will only succeed if the server’s GatewayPorts option is enabled (see sshd_config(5))" |
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| 12:21.42 | apo_ | Hm. Can I turn on kernel logging to a serial console after booting? |
| 12:21.47 | apo_ | with sysctl or so? |
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| 12:22.37 | petemc | apo_: inittab, i would have thought |
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| 12:23.43 | apo_ | petemc: That's for logging in, and also gets read at boot >_> |
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| 12:24.20 | petemc | apo_: its not something ive done, obviously, but perhaps you need to make your bootloader aware |
| 12:24.22 | enouf | toshiba510cdt: put ChipSet name as "ct65550" in the Device section of xorg.conf - and man chips states, it'll override the autodetection - see the HiQv info there about your chipset version/number |
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| 12:24.45 | error4o4 | i migrated my website to a debian box (tgzipped everything and moved).. I have a problem with non ascii characters in my html templates now, they are not displaying... any idea? vi editor displays the code for such chars, like <9A> ... any idea what to do, what to search for...? |
| 12:24.46 | apo_ | petemc: I wanna do this after booting. :P |
| 12:25.03 | petemc | ill just stop making suggestions |
| 12:26.01 | enouf | toshiba510cdt: you might also want to try the Option "UseModeline" option, and use the cvt output, or Xorg.0.log might have one already you can snag - pastebin output of your /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 12:26.05 | p0g0 | liable: I may have found my solution (I'll know in some hours) netfilter->ip->IPV4 connection tracking support <- not enabled by default... |
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| 12:26.16 | YAA1 | !info libtalloc-dev |
| 12:26.19 | dpkg | libtalloc-dev: (hierarchical pool based memory allocator - development files), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 1.2.0~git20080616-1 (sid), Packaged size: 23 kB, Installed size: 116 kB |
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| 12:26.44 | apo_ | petemc: Alright. It's not liek this is important, anyway. Just something I'd like to try |
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| 12:28.23 | Ergo^ | hello |
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| 12:30.13 | Ergo^ | im having silly problem with my brand new lenny, im trying to get a process running in background and want to leave it after i close terminal, i do hg serve &, and then i type exit, by after exit something "breaks" ie. hg stops serving data, what am i doing wrong ? |
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| 12:30.38 | enouf | toshiba510cdt: http://ftp.ticklers.org/pub/XFree86/3.3.6/doc/README.chips (referred to from the man page, but nowhere to be found in Debian, unless it's named something else) |
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| 12:31.54 | apo_ | Ergo^: Just run it in screen |
| 12:32.03 | apo_ | Ergo^: (and then detach) |
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| 12:32.28 | themill | or use nohup. Make sure that the process is not going to send anything to stdout or stderr |
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| 12:34.18 | Ergo^ | apo, themill, thanks for answers, just solved it by running with "run as daemon" flag |
| 12:35.28 | Ergo^ | btw. congrats to all on new release, seem like im ditching buntu now :] |
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| 12:35.50 | leOn | hello |
| 12:36.01 | leOn | hello |
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| 12:36.38 | henry-nicolas | Hi, any info about when will sid get a newer kernel ? |
| 12:36.56 | leOn | does anyone know why would one still see the "4gb seg fixup" messages on a system which has libc6-xen libs installed? (debian) |
| 12:37.00 | jackweb | Does any program exist to browse a content of a .tar file without unpacking? |
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| 12:37.24 | leOn | apparently init is still using the regular libc6 |
| 12:37.26 | jk | jackweb: check the -t option of tar |
| 12:37.48 | benje | thanks bye |
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| 12:38.00 | apo_ | jackweb: mc can also do that, AFAIR |
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| 12:38.19 | jackweb | Uhm.. |
| 12:38.35 | enouf | jackweb: i can do it to .gz files in my browser easily :-P |
| 12:38.39 | superjet_busy | jackweb: less |
| 12:39.24 | TwistOfFate | i wonder if the nagios3-common package is fixed in lenny yet. |
| 12:39.57 | toshiba510cdt | i tried X -configure and it created a minimal xorg.conf and edited it so Identifier is now set to "ct65550" in the Device section. Is the next step to add Modeline "800x600_60.00" 38.25 800 832 912 1024 600 603 607 624 -hsync +vsync at the end of the xorg.conf file? |
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| 12:40.16 | jackweb | Thanks. |
| 12:40.40 | enouf | apo_: http://www.xand.co.uk/geekstuff.php click Debian Serial Console |
| 12:40.46 | jackweb | And if I would like to view file X from Y.tar.gz with unpacking? |
| 12:40.52 | xand | hilight! |
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| 12:41.12 | enouf | !hug XGas |
| 12:41.12 | dpkg | gives XGas a hug |
| 12:41.15 | enouf | oops |
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| 12:41.41 | jackweb | with → without ;) |
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| 12:43.16 | toshiba510cdt | btw http://ftp.ticklers.org/pub/XFree86/3.3.6/doc/README.chips is not very newbie friendly, is it? |
| 12:43.23 | enouf | toshiba510cdt: please atleast read the doc i sent you , YES it's much older, and i'm not sure which modeline you should try, the one's listed there, the one's found in Xorg.0.log, or the cvt ones .. but - google, and wiki.debian.org have examplaes of /etc/X11/xorg.conf files and structures, as do the other things i mentioned |
| 12:43.55 | enouf | theodred: has the chipset changed in 13 years? no, so i bet most of that applies still |
| 12:44.11 | enouf | toshiba510cdt: , not theodred |
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| 12:45.30 | enouf | xand: why is your site weird ? when i send/click this; i end up on your home page, and have to click geek .. Debian .. you doing some nasty redirection? :-P |
| 12:45.42 | xand | er |
| 12:45.51 | enouf | er this; http://www.xand.co.uk/debianSerialConsole.php |
| 12:46.04 | xand | that link goes straight there for me |
| 12:46.13 | enouf | cache! |
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| 12:46.34 | xand | don't think so |
| 12:46.43 | enouf | it does now for me too .. aww f* it |
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| 12:47.02 | xand | works fine on a machine that I just created a new account on :) |
| 12:47.24 | enouf | heh - well, php - what'dya 'xpect :-p |
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| 12:47.41 | cadu | hey guys, im using a msi wind netbook, i can suspend it to ram how many times i want and everything is fine, all devices come back working ok (sound/wireless/usb), however, if i use suspend to ram ONCE,i cant power down the machine, it just locks up when "acpid" is being shut down |
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| 12:47.47 | cadu | it just won't power off |
| 12:48.04 | enouf | xand: might want to update that kernel version -> Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.8-2-k7 O_o |
| 12:48.05 | cadu | any suggestions on this acpi-related problem? thanks in advance |
| 12:48.19 | enouf | !wind |
| 12:48.19 | dpkg | it has been said that wind is like the stuff that blows through the mind of high-level managers |
| 12:48.24 | enouf | heh |
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| 12:48.29 | toshiba510cdt | i did google, tried the debian wiki, paid a visit to linuxs on laptop website before coming here and could not find the answer |
| 12:48.31 | xand | enouf: that was the stable kernel when I wrote it :) |
| 12:48.31 | cadu | enouf: ;) |
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| 12:48.52 | enouf | xand: i know :-P |
| 12:49.24 | enouf | cadu: seems like some needed module isn't being loaded that you .. oh wait - nm |
| 12:50.24 | enouf | cadu: you're going to have to chop up dmesg into areas of suspend, and take snapshots of which modules are loaded using lsmod or somethjing |
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| 12:51.31 | cadu | enouf: it was working FINE with debian's stock kernel [-686], BUT it was spitting strange acpi errors like EC did something strange |
| 12:51.52 | enouf | cadu: listen, find the acpid script in /etc/init.d/ and add -x just after #!/bin/bash, so it looks like #!/bin/bash -x |
| 12:52.03 | enouf | EC? |
| 12:52.29 | cadu | enouf: each time that occured the machine would behave strangely, also, the onboard gigabit ethernet support in .26 was flaky, and that was fixed in .28, so i compiled my own vanilla 2.6.28, with everything correctly in place.... |
| 12:52.43 | cadu | enouf: okz |
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| 12:53.45 | dusty | Hey guys I have a failed hard drive, rebuilt my server and put the failed hard drive in, I have managed to mount the failed hard drive to try and recoup any lost data.. thing is everything is on there except the mysql dataa directory /var/lib/mysql - I cannot find the data files anywhere, even the log files for mysql are still there.. any ideas why they are not there and any idea how to get them back? |
| 12:53.47 | cadu | enouf: EC is something ACPI-y, what matters is that made the machine like lockup for some seconds, and the wired ethernet controller support being flaky also made me try a vanilla kernel |
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| 12:54.04 | cadu | enouf: in my vanilla kernel ACPI is on, APM is off |
| 12:54.07 | cadu | enouf: no fancy stuff |
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| 12:54.26 | enouf | cadu: EdgeControl Line Registers? |
| 12:54.35 | ttyX | can someone tellme why lxtask is not there in debian repo? |
| 12:54.55 | ttyX | lenny I mean |
| 12:55.10 | toshiba510cdt | i am a newbie so please tell me step by step what to do |
| 12:55.38 | cadu | enouf: maybe |
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| 12:56.03 | enouf | cadu: you cou;ld try some kernel-parameters.txt like the http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.26/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt#L155 options (acpi_sci= [HW,ACPI] ACPI System Control Interrupt trigger mode Format: { level | edge | high | low }) |
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| 12:57.42 | cadu | enouf: thanks |
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| 13:00.29 | cadu | enouf: the strange thing is , after i see "acpid exiting" on the terminal, the system kinda LOCKS UP, like it powered down, just forgot to turn power off literally |
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| 13:02.35 | enouf | cadu: you mean ELCR, even the comments in the kernel code have typos ; "Edge/Level Control Registers" but that's what i think you meant |
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| 13:03.32 | cadu | enouf: yup |
| 13:03.35 | enouf | cadu: i understand - that's been an issue for certain machines throughout many kernel versions - it goes away for awhile, then it pops back up every like 10th version |
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| 13:05.31 | enouf | cadu: is it possible you're also using cpufreqd scaling and when you 1st go into s2ram, it get's reset once you come out, or get's reset the 2nd time you come out (say from powersave -> performance mode) - do you notice if it happens only when on AC power? How about time intervals in between? |
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| 13:06.07 | enouf | do certain longer time interval amounts alter the behaviour? |
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| 13:07.36 | jpinx | toshiba510cdt: Sounds like you're lost - as I frequently am - if you are totally stuck - revert and try the dist-upgrade again. |
| 13:07.46 | enouf | cadu: what happens if you s2ram once - come out of s2ram, then do a /etc/init.d/acpi* stop just prior to shutting down |
| 13:07.48 | pngwn | !tell dzup-beback -about away |
| 13:08.45 | enouf | cadu: but really - all bets are off with your own kernel compile :-P unless you want to try upstream lkml/bugzilla :-) |
| 13:10.08 | cadu | enouf: i'll try doing that right now |
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| 13:11.52 | enouf | cadu: save a log of our convo first. i'm not repeating it :-P |
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| 13:12.43 | sunkan | Is it safe to enable selinux on a remote server (lenny), selinux-activate enables selinux only in permissive mode right? |
| 13:12.53 | toshiba510cdt | <jpinx> i tried dist-upgrades three times and my ancient Pentium 133Mhz laptop choked, crashed. a fresh cd install was the only way to install lenny |
| 13:13.36 | petemc | sunkan: do you know much about selinux? |
| 13:13.45 | sunkan | petemc: Not really |
| 13:13.52 | petemc | i wouldnt recommend it, then |
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| 13:14.24 | jpinx | toshiba510cdt: sorry - I am out of ideas then - you need to follow up what enouf wrote |
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| 13:14.41 | ttyX | is openoffice3 available in lenny backports |
| 13:14.49 | sunkan | petemc: Ok.. I'll try it some other machine first then.. The thing is just that this host would benefit from it. The others I have don't need the extra security so much.. |
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| 13:20.21 | toshiba510cdt | please have a look at http://pastebin.ca/1341011 |
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| 13:20.28 | themill | ttyX: there are no packages available for lenny-backports at this stage. I have the packages from experimental installed on one lenny machine, but this is the box where I break things and don't care so I wouldn't recommend doing the same unless you have a similar attitude. /msg dpkg experimental |
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| 13:20.55 | enouf | !spank liable with a revision control system |
| 13:20.55 | dpkg | bends liable with a revision control system over her knee and delivers a mighty *THWACK* |
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| 13:21.10 | enouf | runs |
| 13:21.13 | reklipz1 | is anyone familiar with creating a HAL callout? |
| 13:21.34 | enouf | dpkg: say WHERE ARE YOU HAL9000!? |
| 13:21.34 | dpkg | WHERE ARE YOU HAL9000! |
| 13:21.40 | enouf | :-) |
| 13:21.54 | liable | enouf: i seem to have hit a nerve on that one.. |
| 13:22.01 | enouf | "Dave .. Dave .. you know i can't allow you to do that ..." |
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| 13:22.11 | enouf | liable: you're good like that :-) |
| 13:22.18 | liable | enouf: stop following me around in my attempt to annoy dd's! |
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| 13:22.36 | enouf | but someone's gotta document it! |
| 13:22.41 | enouf | :-P |
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| 13:22.59 | liable | seems so |
| 13:23.20 | reklipz1 | what happened to the ? from dpkg? |
| 13:23.26 | afloofloo | /msg dpkg lenny |
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| 13:24.17 | toshiba510cdt | i am appalled! there are no interactive way to configure X in lenny! |
| 13:24.34 | reklipz1 | toshiba510cdt: eh? |
| 13:24.46 | reklipz1 | tty is interactive |
| 13:25.00 | seria-mau | hi. i am trying to roll a custom kernel using make-kpkg. what bothers me: everytime i change the config, even if the change is minor, i have to clean the entire tree with make-kpkg clean because make-kpkg kernel_image refuses to just rebuild the parts in question and generate a new image |
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| 13:25.16 | toshiba510cdt | intercative apps like XConfigurator, X -configure is no good |
| 13:25.37 | seria-mau | cleaning the entire tree and building everything again just takes too long |
| 13:26.16 | seria-mau | i mean, the buildsystems uses make, right? |
| 13:26.49 | seria-mau | and make is capable of doing only necessary compilations |
| 13:28.14 | enouf | toshiba510cdt: you could file a bug report about how yours isn't autoconfigured properly |
| 13:28.17 | jelly | seria-mau: yup, make-kpkg is dumb that way. |
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| 13:29.32 | jelly | seria-mau: you could do a make manually and figure out which files need to be touched for make-kpkg to stop complaining |
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| 13:31.05 | toshiba510cdt | <enouf> is filing a bug report a newbie thing? |
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| 13:31.41 | seria-mau | jelly: ok. i will try this |
| 13:32.33 | jpinx | toshiba510cdt: maybe you were better in etch? Why dist-upgrade on such an old machine? |
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| 13:33.38 | jpinx | toshiba510cdt: I won't dist-upgrade this T8000 again - it's at the limit of useablily now. Too much for the cpu sometimes. |
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| 13:33.44 | toshiba510cdt | <jpinx> that is no solution to my problem. at some point in the very near future etch is no longer to be supported |
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| 13:34.11 | seria-mau | what are the chances that a fix for #493692 gets into 5.0r1? |
| 13:34.24 | jpinx | toshiba510cdt: etch has probably got a year of support in front of it - gives you time to save up for a newer lappy |
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| 13:34.44 | jpinx | toshiba510cdt: and even when it's not supported it still works |
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| 13:37.38 | toshiba510cdt | <jpinx> upgrade your hardware is a Microsoft mantra. no, thanks! |
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| 13:38.21 | toshiba510cdt | <jpinx> running non supported versions of a distro is a security disaster |
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| 13:39.42 | backenfutter | hi folks: how do I upgrade my box form etch to lenny using ssh? |
| 13:40.02 | jpinx | toshiba510cdt: no mantras coming from me - just facing reality. I upgraded my twin floppy laptop a while ago because I couldn't get any OS to work on it well enough to be useable. |
| 13:40.08 | themill | seria-mau: unless a new package that fixes *only* that bug is created and the bug is upgraded to "grave", then it's unlikely to be fixed. Perhaps contact the maintainer about doing this. |
| 13:40.23 | Svedrin | I've written a django application that configures a mumble server... looking in apt I didn't find anything like it, and I'd love to see it integrated in the distro - who do I need to talk to? |
| 13:41.08 | seria-mau | jelly: doing a manual make and deleting debian/stamp/binary/* did the trick, i think. |
| 13:41.14 | seria-mau | themill: ok, i will. |
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| 13:42.34 | themill | toshiba510cdt: on older hardware, you'll get just as good performance, perhaps better, out of a newer kernel from lenny compare to etch. Whatever X stuff you run may or may not be heavier or lighted in lenny vs etch, but there is no real reason why you can't dist-upgrade. |
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| 13:49.58 | toshiba510cdt | <jpinx> i tried dist-upgrades three times and my ancient Pentium 133Mhz laptop choked, crashed. a fresh cd install was the only way to install lenny |
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| 13:58.14 | obcecado | hi, i am using lenny with latest updates, with kde 4.2 from sid, and due to some update last night, i am now unable to login @ kdm, the kdm.log complains about xorg not finding type1 module |
| 13:58.20 | obcecado | has anyone experienced this = |
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| 14:00.42 | DeSian | any shell based client for monitoring server logs like apache, file2ban..etc. (connection via SSH). |
| 14:00.58 | jelly | obcecado: kde4.2 packages are only supported with sid. Mixing _will_ cause unexpected things to happen |
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| 14:01.41 | DeSian | jelly: kde.4.2 is experimental source , |
| 14:01.58 | ebilpanda | hello |
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| 14:02.15 | DeSian | hi ebilpanda |
| 14:02.15 | obcecado | correct, its not from sid, its from experimental |
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| 14:03.01 | DeSian | obcecado: have u try with #debian-kde |
| 14:03.01 | ebilpanda | when do squeeze iso's get released as testing cd-images? |
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| 14:03.08 | obcecado | i havent |
| 14:03.12 | jelly | obcecado: and http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde4.html tells you explicitely they work with unstable, NOT testing (or even lenny) |
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| 14:03.14 | obcecado | thanks for the tip |
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| 14:03.33 | jelly | obcecado: /msg dpkg kde4 ... #debian-kde channel is on irc.debian.org |
| 14:03.38 | DeSian | jelly: u r right, |
| 14:03.42 | DeSian | srry |
| 14:03.56 | DeSian | is kde4.1 under lenny |
| 14:04.02 | jelly | DeSian: this channel is English only, I believe. |
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| 14:04.27 | DeSian | jelly: rofl! |
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| 14:04.51 | antii | anyone can help me solve this postfix error? running lenny. http://pastebin.ca/1341043 |
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| 14:05.52 | ebilpanda | or, where do I get Squeeze cd-images from? Apparently not here --> http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/i386/iso-cd/ |
| 14:06.06 | YAA1 | WHERE IS " smbk5pwd " ???? I read about it should be included in Lenny . but I can't find it.. Any further information ? didn't find anything about that on debian.org neither |
| 14:06.13 | rikva | I would like to know at which time events in dmesg happened since dmesg doesn't show timestamps. The same information is not in syslog or messages. Where should I look? |
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| 14:06.51 | DeSian | ebilpanda: is squeeze is testing. |
| 14:07.01 | stew | rikva: what does "uname -r" say? |
| 14:07.06 | jelly | rikva: um, it _should_ be in syslog. /var/log/kern.log to be more precise |
| 14:07.07 | stew | (my dmesg does have timestamps) |
| 14:07.24 | rikva | stew: 2.6.18-6-xen-amd64 |
| 14:07.24 | aburch | YAA1: You can search for file names on packages.debian.org or use apt-file. |
| 14:07.28 | ebilpanda | DeSian: I can't parse that sentence |
| 14:07.38 | DeSian | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/ |
| 14:07.53 | ebilpanda | DeSian: OK thanks |
| 14:07.55 | zzattack2 | I'm pretty happy a package from the standard repositories but I want to edit the sourcecode a little; it's no big deal to recompile the program but can I easily obtain a similar configuration as when I wouldn've installed from the .deb package? |
| 14:08.01 | stew | rikva: do you actually use xen? |
| 14:08.03 | rikva | jelly: ahh, thank you. |
| 14:08.06 | rikva | stew: yes |
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| 14:08.35 | stew | ok, i dunno then. the 2.6.18 kernel didn't have the timestamps. if you need a xen kernel, i don't know what a good option is for a newer kernel |
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| 14:08.56 | rikva | stew: It's okay, I found the info I need in kern.log :) |
| 14:09.19 | aburch | zzattack2: apt-get source [package], edit (add changelog entry so you know it's modified), debuild, install the *.deb package |
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| 14:10.03 | zzattack2 | aburch: does this procedure have a name? maybe i can find a little more detail on it if I know what to search for |
| 14:10.09 | aburch | zzattack2: You might want to put the package on hold after this so it is not automatically updated (aptitude hold) |
| 14:11.44 | YAA1 | aburch: apt-file update reports Can't get http://security.debian.org/dists/lenny/updates/Contents-i386.gz |
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| 14:13.43 | zzattack2 | aburch: can I obtain the ./configure line that was used by the package? and can you tell a little more about the debuild step? |
| 14:13.59 | toshiba510cdt | one thing that i have noticed is that whenever i press ctrl alt backspace to terminate my X session, i end up out of X and with all vt garbled. what gives? |
| 14:14.40 | aburch | YAA1: It should still work. |
| 14:15.36 | aburch | zzattack2: I don't know a specific name for this procedure. It's basically the same procedure the package maintainer would use. |
| 14:16.57 | zzattack2 | aburch: indeed, but the steps the maintainer used are not necessarily obtainable then? |
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| 14:17.59 | aburch | zzattack2: They are. Everything needed is in the debian/ directory. |
| 14:18.27 | themill | zzattack2: apt-get source <package name> and then look at how the package is built in debian/rules. |
| 14:18.35 | aburch | zzattack2: The debian/rules file describes what debuild will actually do. The ./configure line should also be there. |
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| 14:18.58 | themill | zzattack2: also /msg dpkg package recompile |
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| 14:20.14 | zzattack2 | thanks aburch, themill, that should get it done |
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| 14:31.26 | mathiazz | hi all |
| 14:31.32 | mathiazz | i would like to add a timeout for idle connection |
| 14:31.37 | mathiazz | it means that the user is still connected but his session is idle |
| 14:31.42 | mathiazz | =) |
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| 14:34.00 | shams | hi, i enabled UserDir module and put one domain in sites-available and create a link in sites-enabled. but when i surf that domain apache direct me to apache2-default page. how can i fix it? |
| 14:34.42 | Ergo^ | shams: i think that #apache would be a better answer for that |
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| 14:34.51 | Ergo^ | but you should use domain.tld/~username |
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| 14:34.54 | Ergo^ | right ? |
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| 14:35.25 | Sc0rpSys | hi |
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| 14:35.41 | orgthingy | hello, I removed gnome..but now i've apt-get install gnome again (yes, i love gnome, cant get away from it) the thing is, it's downloading unrelated stuff in the metapackage |
| 14:35.48 | orgthingy | such as abiword and swf-dec |
| 14:36.08 | orgthingy | (..and i have slow download speed, would be appreciated if any know a way to avoid downloading such pointless stuff) |
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| 14:36.17 | shams | Ergo^: yes. 'domain.tld/~username' work. but how can i direct domain.tld to their public_html? |
| 14:36.29 | Ergo^ | you cant do it this way |
| 14:36.54 | Ergo^ | mod username does exactly that :domain.tld/~username --> /home/uername/public_html |
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| 14:37.01 | Sc0rpSys | what |
| 14:37.12 | Ergo^ | but maybe there is a solution, ask in #apache |
| 14:37.19 | Jemt | orgthingy: You probably downloaded the entire Gnome Desktop Environment, not just the basic package. Give me a sec |
| 14:37.37 | orgthingy | apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment would work? because i did apt-get install gnome |
| 14:37.42 | orgthingy | k |
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| 14:39.13 | helo | anyone know what might cause my usb read/writing to go at about 20KB/s? |
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| 14:40.02 | orgthingy | helo: bad usb drive? or usb device? |
| 14:40.10 | orgthingy | because mine never went that slow :p |
| 14:40.19 | Jemt | gnome-desktop-environment gives you the entire package (including word processing etc). Same goes for 'gnome'. What you probably want is 'gnome-core' |
| 14:40.32 | orgthingy | Jemt: thanks pal! |
| 14:40.33 | orgthingy | :-) |
| 14:40.39 | Jemt | orgthingy: My pleasure :) |
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| 14:46.40 | toshiba510cdt | i managed to solve the problem with the help of the very friendly, knowledgeable and great people at #xorg |
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| 14:48.24 | macondo | I have an external usb HDD, is it possible to install debian on it and boot directly from it? |
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| 14:48.58 | orgthingy | macondo: would be..slow |
| 14:49.01 | orgthingy | slower, i mean |
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| 14:49.50 | macondo | orgthingy: it works at like 20MB/s, will it be slow anyway? |
| 14:50.25 | orgthingy | macondo: well, all I know that my experience with usb-OS was..sorta "slower than usual" |
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| 14:50.31 | orgthingy | macondo: but it'll be usable |
| 14:51.18 | macondo | orgthingy: ok, but regarding the installation: can I boot the debian netinst cd and install it as usual to the usb drive? |
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| 14:51.50 | orgthingy | macondo : If it detected it, then yea |
| 14:51.55 | WpgGuy | I had some windows problems and had to run fixmbr... now I need to put grub back there so I can boot into Debian again. Can I use the install disk (I have disk one) and just install grub? I figured if I simply choose expert mode I could skip all the way down to that task and just run that. Sound like it might/should work? |
| 14:52.55 | macondo | orgthingy: ok thanks |
| 14:53.31 | macondo | orgthingy: is there anyway I can install it on the usb drive without having to boot the debian cd? |
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| 14:54.37 | orgthingy | macondo : hmmmmm |
| 14:54.46 | orgthingy | dunno, i was googling the other day and found something like that |
| 14:55.46 | abrotman | !tell macondo about usb install |
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| 14:56.36 | macondo | great, thanks |
| 14:56.38 | gromgull | anyone else running testing and having problems with gnome apps not opening files, not showing thumbnails, etc. recently? |
| 14:56.51 | gromgull | nautilus says "coulnd't display <file"> |
| 14:56.54 | gromgull | for everything ;( |
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| 15:01.41 | liable | !qotd0 |
| 15:01.42 | dpkg | <{Fatalfury}> hi, do u know a way to limit the /proc directory size? now it's over 500MB and i have a very little hd |
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| 15:03.27 | lifestream | Does anyone know if Logitech MediaPlay mouse still uses the evdev driver? (or do you know where I can check?) TY |
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| 15:07.52 | enouf | lifestream: usb? lsusb -v |
| 15:07.57 | maligor | lifestream, never seen a mouse that doesn't use usb hid |
| 15:07.58 | enouf | get the usbid |
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| 15:08.10 | maligor | a usb mouse that is |
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| 15:08.33 | enouf | maligor: i bet almost all have usbhid as a depends |
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| 15:08.54 | maligor | the exception would be bluetooth that'd probably use some bluetooth hid |
| 15:09.06 | enouf | that matters little when you need the module that pulls in usbhid as a depends |
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| 15:09.17 | daedhel | hi guys! im using sid and sidux, i would like to know if i must use xorg.conf or hal policies to set my keymap to french candian ? |
| 15:09.19 | enouf | s/as/has/ |
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| 15:09.33 | enouf | daedhel: /msg dpkg sidux |
| 15:09.42 | lifestream | maligor, even if its wifi mouse? (with sound up down / next/previous song) |
| 15:09.47 | stew | daedhel: you can use either |
| 15:10.01 | enouf | daedhel: setxkbmap <CC> if you care |
| 15:10.18 | maligor | lifestream, sure |
| 15:10.24 | enouf | daedhel: setxkbmap ca for Canadian if you care |
| 15:10.27 | maligor | I think usbhid has 256keys available |
| 15:10.32 | maligor | or was it 8bits |
| 15:10.35 | lifestream | maligor, would that make all the cool buttons work? ^^ |
| 15:10.35 | maligor | err.. 16bits |
| 15:10.50 | daedhel | enouf: will it keep the setting^ |
| 15:10.53 | daedhel | ? |
| 15:10.54 | maligor | lifestream, depends on how it's configured |
| 15:10.56 | enouf | no |
| 15:11.20 | enouf | you want xorg xkb options then .. otherwise do it through your DE |
| 15:11.25 | enouf | applets/tools |
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| 15:11.30 | maligor | lifestream, do you have one connected? |
| 15:11.39 | lifestream | maligor, I've been trying the whole xbindkeys blah blah blah for months ^^ Yes, it's connected now |
| 15:11.55 | maligor | lifestream, run 'xev' |
| 15:12.08 | maligor | and see what it says when you press the extra buttons |
| 15:12.14 | enouf | xmodmap -ppk for a mouse - perhaps |
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| 15:12.21 | enouf | oh |
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| 15:13.42 | lifestream | maligor, yeah, it doesn't say any different number when I push the other buttons. I know this mouse works because *I* messed something up :P Messed real bad ^^ |
| 15:13.54 | daedhel | enouf, here is the result of the command : http://pastebin.com/m2da1294c |
| 15:14.48 | enouf | daedhel: cf != ca |
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| 15:15.14 | enouf | so yes, i looked |
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| 15:15.18 | parsifal_ | mornin |
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| 15:15.20 | maligor | lifestream, oh, it uses some extra protocol |
| 15:15.24 | daedhel | enouf, cf is the keymap for french canadian |
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| 15:15.28 | enouf | now, go away - this is #debian |
| 15:15.32 | christoz | greetings , i'm encountering a problem related with privileges of user, when i run firestarter, it prompts me for the password, i type it, it confirms it but, i'm getting this <<(firestarter:25526): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Unable to create ~/.gnome2 directory: No such file or directory |
| 15:15.32 | christoz | Could not create per-user gnome configuration directory `/home/root/.gnome2/': No such file or directory>> how is this possible? noacces to .gnome2 by root? how o come? |
| 15:15.32 | enouf | not sidux |
| 15:15.41 | enouf | daedhel: wrong |
| 15:15.56 | enouf | daedhel: or .. you need to install the locale |
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| 15:16.09 | enouf | !tell daedhel -about locales |
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| 15:16.19 | jimcooncat | Your opinion please: apt-cacher, apt-cacher-ng, or something else? |
| 15:16.26 | maligor | lifestream, using http://daemon.prozone.org/~david/projects/lmpcm_usb/ ? |
| 15:16.27 | daedhel | enouf, the locale is installed |
| 15:16.29 | runa | how can i see all the characteristic of my machine cpu graphic card etc |
| 15:16.43 | enouf | daedhel: i can't help any more .. please |
| 15:17.16 | daedhel | enouf, that<s ok man lol |
| 15:17.27 | enouf | runa: try less /etc/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 15:17.29 | daedhel | enouf, thanks for the info so far |
| 15:17.37 | daedhel | enouf, :) |
| 15:17.44 | enouf | runa: /msg dpkg what's my hardware |
| 15:17.53 | lifestream | runa or install gnome-device-manager :) |
| 15:18.11 | enouf | runa: to grab pciid, hjust run lspci -nn | grep VGA |
| 15:18.18 | lifestream | maligor, yikes you are a google ninja x) |
| 15:18.26 | parsifal_ | If I want to have things happen during start up, as root, after network startup happens, how would I do that? |
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| 15:18.57 | enouf | parsifal_: see /etc/rcb.local |
| 15:19.00 | enouf | parsifal_: see /etc/rc.local |
| 15:19.00 | maligor | lifestream, ancient instructions tho |
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| 15:19.04 | Ella-Blue | hello |
| 15:19.13 | Ella-Blue | i have a problem with updating |
| 15:19.21 | parsifal_ | enouf, ah, of course. Does this just run after everything else? |
| 15:19.29 | Kohlrabi | re |
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| 15:19.33 | parsifal_ | enouf: In other words, in terms of /etc/init.d, when does this execute? |
| 15:19.46 | enouf | parsifal_: yes, see the symllink in /etc/rc2.d/S99rc.local ? |
| 15:20.02 | christoz | any suggestions for the problem reported above? |
| 15:20.10 | parsifal_ | enouf, ah, cool; so it's in runlevel 2.. |
| 15:20.17 | Ella-Blue | i have stull 2.4 but apt wants to update libc6 |
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| 15:20.28 | Ella-Blue | and ufcorse i need to install 2.6 to continue |
| 15:20.30 | Ella-Blue | what 2 do? |
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| 15:20.37 | enouf | parsifal_: yes - if you need it to be done even later - see your DE perfs |
| 15:20.40 | enouf | perfs |
| 15:20.49 | enouf | er preferences |
| 15:20.56 | parsifal_ | enouf: and networking starts in rc0, great |
| 15:20.59 | lifestream | I'm going to restart to check something |
| 15:21.01 | parsifal_ | what's a DE prefs? |
| 15:21.08 | parsifal_ | can't I just move the symlink to another rc? |
| 15:21.13 | parsifal_ | I don't want to, but couldn't I? |
| 15:21.17 | Ella-Blue | google doesen't find anything useful |
| 15:21.25 | enouf | parsifal_: oh yes - seeee /etc/init.d/README |
| 15:21.37 | enouf | it's up by S40 |
| 15:21.48 | parsifal_ | enouf: cool, thanks for all the info. What's DE mean tho? |
| 15:21.50 | enouf | what? |
| 15:22.15 | enouf | DE == Desktop Env, Gnome/KDE/XFCE4 |
| 15:22.17 | enouf | etc |
| 15:22.18 | parsifal_ | ahhhhh |
| 15:22.33 | enouf | we cool? |
| 15:22.35 | parsifal_ | haha |
| 15:22.39 | parsifal_ | yes we cool |
| 15:22.42 | enouf | good |
| 15:22.52 | parsifal_ | it seems like it works pretty much like other Linux systems |
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| 15:23.31 | enouf | parsifal_: apt-get update ; apt-cache show file-rc (for a more slackware type rc file) |
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| 15:24.03 | parsifal_ | enouf: Does that change all of my startup scripts then? |
| 15:24.23 | enouf | judd: version libc6 |
| 15:24.24 | judd | enouf: (version takes no arguments) -- Returns the version of the current bot. |
| 15:24.31 | enouf | Ella-Blue: ^^^^^^^ |
| 15:24.38 | enouf | judd: versions libc6 |
| 15:24.38 | judd | enouf: libc6 -- etch: 2.3.6.ds1-13etch7 lenny: 2.7-18 sid: 2.7-18 experimental: 2.9-0exp2 |
| 15:24.39 | stew | parsifal_: not the scripts so much as how it decides which to run |
| 15:24.41 | enouf | Ella-Blue: ^^^^^^^ |
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| 15:25.22 | parsifal_ | stew: Ah; well I'm fine with how Debian is doing it now :) |
| 15:25.25 | enouf | parsifal_: it consolidates all the rc?.d/ symlinks into one file |
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| 15:25.33 | parsifal_ | enouf: Oh.. well I don't really want that |
| 15:25.39 | enouf | ok then |
| 15:25.41 | lifestream | maligor, kernel 2.6 isnt ancient :O |
| 15:25.43 | parsifal_ | I like having all the separate files |
| 15:25.48 | enouf | just thought to let you know |
| 15:25.52 | parsifal_ | 2.6.. what is the kernel up to now? |
| 15:25.56 | parsifal_ | enouf: I appreciate that ;) |
| 15:25.57 | enouf | now = /msg dpkg grounding |
| 15:26.09 | enouf | and read the Debian reference |
| 15:26.28 | enouf | that's how i even found out about it |
| 15:26.59 | enouf | !seen wols |
| 15:26.59 | dpkg | wols <i=klingens@p549DCB80.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 42d 18h 24m 41s ago, saying: 'thank you'. |
| 15:27.05 | enouf | ... |
| 15:27.28 | parsifal_ | hey the refcard might actually be useful |
| 15:27.38 | enouf | themill: i need to add a qotd - but i forgot how ;0 |
| 15:28.11 | parsifal_ | how deep does the reference go? does it assume no knowledge about Unix? |
| 15:28.14 | parsifal_ | like, ground-up? |
| 15:28.25 | streuner_ | enouf: /msg dpkg literal factoid? |
| 15:28.35 | Ella-Blue | hm |
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| 15:28.40 | Ella-Blue | i'm updating to lenny |
| 15:28.42 | Ella-Blue | and we'll see |
| 15:28.48 | enouf | streuner_: indeed - but i'm too drunk to even attempt it ;-) |
| 15:28.51 | Ella-Blue | if that (hopefully) saves the problem |
| 15:28.56 | streuner_ | hehe |
| 15:29.15 | enouf | themill: when you can, add this; : [14:25:00] <meshuggah> enouf; i dont zqnt q french lqyout)azerty i live in cqnqdq |
| 15:29.34 | themill | enouf: yeah, I saw that the other day... nice one. |
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| 15:30.05 | enouf | themill: ;-) he/she/they were very cooperative to give us that ;-) |
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| 15:30.31 | themill | !qotd233 |
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| 15:30.31 | dpkg | <meshuggah> enouf; i dont zqnt q french lqyout)azerty i live in cqnqdq |
| 15:30.49 | streuner_ | dpkg, literal qotd233 |
| 15:30.49 | dpkg | "qotd233" is "<reply> <meshuggah> enouf; i dont zqnt q french lqyout)azerty i live in cqnqdq" |
| 15:31.13 | streuner_ | !listkeys qotd |
| 15:31.14 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'qotd' by key (15 of 519): #debian qotd98 ;; _default qotd102 ;; _default qotd103 ;; _default qotd121 ;; _default qotd132 ;; _default qotd36 ;; _default qotd42 ;; _default qotd88 ;; qotd13 ;; qotd142 ;; qotd149 ;; qotd168 ;; qotd174 ;; qotd192 ;; qotd45. |
| 15:31.32 | streuner_ | omg, 519 thats enough to read whole day :-) |
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| 15:32.13 | themill | streuner_: many are dummies though, use http://dpkg.vireo.org/search.php?q=*qotd*&term=key instead |
| 15:32.18 | enouf | themill: and amphi what i like about that qotd, it's just the right amount of 'deep' .. ya know what i mean ;-) |
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| 15:32.27 | enouf | to get the full affect |
| 15:32.44 | streuner_ | enouf, themill: it would be helpful to provide qotd which are funny... |
| 15:32.48 | stew | btw "http://dpkg.vireo.org/q/qotd" should work similarly |
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| 15:32.55 | amphi | enouf: you added that? ;) |
| 15:32.56 | enouf | cryptic only to the clauns |
| 15:33.01 | enouf | ;-0 |
| 15:33.06 | streuner_ | themill: yeah, thats not helpful in a support channel... |
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| 15:33.33 | __teadict | heya.. can anyone recommend me some piece of QA software? I have no idea where to begin searching |
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| 15:33.36 | Bracki_ | How do I find out against which libs a binary is linked? |
| 15:33.45 | enouf | amphi: i asked someone else to, since i'm too full of "adult beverage redfreshment" ;-) |
| 15:34.14 | jamon | Bracki: ldd |
| 15:34.18 | Bracki | aight |
| 15:34.23 | amphi | well done, in any case - a classic |
| 15:34.29 | enouf | themill: thanks - and streuner_ and amphi and stew too -- |
| 15:35.06 | themill | stew: interesting.... I've just a bookmark alias for generating that url though. |
| 15:35.11 | enouf | stew: how is judd doing as far as being uptodate ..... ? |
| 15:35.50 | Ella-Blue | hm |
| 15:35.53 | stew | enouf: the transaction is committing right now for squeze, then i'll do the other new lines |
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| 15:35.54 | Ella-Blue | problem still there |
| 15:35.57 | stew | err other new ones* |
| 15:36.12 | stew | like backports-lenny, multimedia-squeeze, volatile-lenny, etc |
| 15:36.13 | Ella-Blue | http://rula.net/495 |
| 15:36.21 | enouf | stew: cool - awesome -- and thanls |
| 15:36.26 | enouf | thanks even |
| 15:37.07 | __teadict | anyone? QA software? |
| 15:37.34 | stew | __teadict: what would the software do? |
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| 15:40.01 | stoned | good orning |
| 15:40.14 | omsanti | what is the default desktop environment for Debian 5? |
| 15:40.18 | stoned | about to commence lenny install on vmware |
| 15:40.29 | abrotman | omsanti: the one you choose |
| 15:40.31 | stoned | yippy |
| 15:40.47 | stoned | debian defaults to gnome/gtk, but you can specify kde or xfrce during install |
| 15:41.10 | omsanti | ok |
| 15:41.14 | lifestream | Does anyone know how to turn off trackpad w/o disabling it on bios? :) |
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| 15:41.14 | stoned | omsanti, /msg dpkg install kde, /msg dpkg install gnome, /msg dpkg install xfce |
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| 15:41.38 | abrotman | it doesn't default to anything |
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| 15:41.54 | stoned | sure it does, cd1 will install that if you select the desktop task |
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| 15:42.09 | abrotman | and if you use the kde-cd1? |
| 15:42.13 | abrotman | an dif you pass it a task ? |
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| 15:42.40 | Ella-Blue | anyone? |
| 15:42.43 | stoned | exactly you can change that but if you put in the normal cd it gets gnome, unless thats changed recently |
| 15:42.48 | Ella-Blue | libc6 is the problem |
| 15:42.51 | Ella-Blue | i can't update it |
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| 15:43.34 | abrotman | Ella-Blue: uname -a says what ? |
| 15:43.44 | enouf | stew: themill WTF? --> qotd223 <reply><enouf> abrotman: you're a turd for insulting retarted people |
| 15:43.48 | Ella-Blue | Linux snowflake 2.4.34.2-snowflake-grsec #1 SMP Mon Apr 2 19:39:39 CEST 2007 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 15:44.01 | enouf | where's the recent one? |
| 15:44.11 | Ella-Blue | not installed |
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| 15:44.13 | amphi | !qotd233 |
| 15:44.13 | dpkg | <meshuggah> enouf; i dont zqnt q french lqyout)azerty i live in cqnqdq |
| 15:44.16 | Ella-Blue | i can't even |
| 15:45.12 | Ella-Blue | because libc6 stops everything :> |
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| 15:45.12 | stoned | amphi, |
| 15:45.12 | stoned | amphi, moron quote? |
| 15:45.15 | omsanti | Thank you |
| 15:45.25 | streuner_ | prolly a keyboard layout problem :-) |
| 15:45.28 | rdz | enouf, FYI: i could easily reboot the machine by removing the usb drive from /etc/fstab. actually there is no reason, that it is part of fstab, since it is supposed to be mounted only sporadically when used by a cronjob... |
| 15:45.41 | __teadict | stew: Quality Assurance thingies? |
| 15:45.54 | abrotman | enouf: eh ? |
| 15:46.03 | TimothyA | QA? I thought that was Questioning/Answering :| |
| 15:46.05 | stoned | abrotman http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.0/i386/iso-cd/ most people just get cd1, and that gives you gnome. most peole dont' scroll down to kde cd1 but anway, i think i was right in saying that it defaults to gnome unless you use the non default cd1 whih is kde cd1 |
| 15:46.15 | stoned | otherwise label cd1 as gnome-cd1 |
| 15:46.23 | abrotman | enouf: oh .. i think because you misspelled "retarted" .. can't recall |
| 15:46.24 | stoned | then there would be no default |
| 15:46.25 | __teadict | TimothyA: maybe is that too |
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| 15:46.32 | lifestream | Does the nvidia card config go under Section Device --- Identifier "configured video device" ? |
| 15:46.37 | stoned | everybody will be happy |
| 15:46.37 | enouf | amphi: you are t o o g o o d - i'm going off the http://dpkg.vireo.org/q/qotd url -- like a fool |
| 15:46.47 | themill | abrotman: from http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2009/01/msg00002.html "The default desktop environment is still GNOME" |
| 15:46.57 | abrotman | silly people! |
| 15:47.07 | enouf | abrotman: that wasn't even why i brought it up -- but ok |
| 15:47.16 | abrotman | enouf: eh .. okay |
| 15:47.40 | abrotman | can i go back to XSL now? |
| 15:47.41 | enouf | abrotman: i didn't mean to even involve you .. . |
| 15:47.46 | enouf | yes |
| 15:47.48 | enouf | go |
| 15:48.06 | __teadict | so.. noone in #debian have never set up a QA server... nice |
| 15:49.23 | Jemt | QA ? |
| 15:49.34 | __teadict | Jemt: Quality Assurance |
| 15:50.25 | Jemt | Oh, nope. Not familiar with that. There is most likely someone in here that have been working with it. They might be busy, or simply dosn't want to help |
| 15:50.29 | themill | __teadict: try to be more vague, that will make sure that people can help you. |
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| 15:51.00 | abrotman | stoned: i tell people to get the netinst ... and not use tasksel |
| 15:51.19 | stoned | I do the same abrotman |
| 15:51.29 | __teadict | themill: I've thought of that.. but lately it just seems that everyone is on 'troll alert mode' and behaves bitchy most of the time.. that sucks for everyone |
| 15:51.39 | stoned | but sometimes you need cds for offline installs, its best to know what is actual default |
| 15:52.43 | abrotman | i know that no one should use tasksel .. even if it's offline |
| 15:52.49 | stoned | true |
| 15:52.57 | themill | __teadict: "QA thingies" isn't going to get you anywhere. Is it interfacing with instrumentation? Is it just for an operator to type in results? Is it an electronic lab book? |
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| 15:53.23 | abrotman | anyways .. back to play time with xsl-fo |
| 15:53.33 | stoned | actually if the tasksel config could be cleaned up, better tasks with non bloat tasks, it would be useful very much |
| 15:54.09 | __teadict | themill: I need someone that has set up a QA server.. whoever had will know what QA means |
| 15:54.12 | stoned | currently there is one desktop task, ugly, horrid, should have 3 desktops tasks or 4, with sub tasks for varous wm installs |
| 15:54.24 | stoned | mani got so many ideas but i don't wanna do it but im probably gonna do it |
| 15:54.44 | stoned | anyway, I gotta go code some php and stuff |
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| 15:57.07 | Emmanuel_Chanel | Hello! |
| 15:57.11 | enouf | abrotman: what? 'no one' should use tasksel? |
| 15:57.29 | __teadict | !olleH | Emmanuel_Chanel |
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| 15:57.37 | abrotman | enouf: go back to being angry :) |
| 15:57.39 | enouf | are you a kde/gnome hater ? |
| 15:57.57 | abrotman | is that all tasksel installs these days? |
| 15:57.59 | enouf | wait .. i'm malking a pint! |
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| 15:58.06 | enouf | :-P |
| 15:58.07 | Emmanuel_Chanel | I want to cry! I cannot configure VirtualHosts. |
| 15:58.24 | abrotman | Emmanuel_Chanel: in apache? asked #apache? |
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| 15:58.37 | Emmanuel_Chanel | Not going well, I reconfigure it at the first. |
| 15:58.51 | enouf | abrotman: what else - OO.o .. so .. even more BLOAT == wonderful |
| 15:58.52 | Emmanuel_Chanel | abrotman: Apache on lenny default. |
| 15:58.55 | petemc | surely #apache would complain about debians unique way of configuring apache? |
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| 15:59.05 | abrotman | petemc: pssh .. that never happens ;) |
| 15:59.08 | Emmanuel_Chanel | So it's the problem of this channel. |
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| 15:59.23 | enouf | stoned: hey - you wussy :-P |
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| 15:59.35 | enouf | over in -chat? |
| 15:59.45 | Emmanuel_Chanel | petemc: On another server, upgraded from etch, such problem doesn't occur. |
| 16:00.01 | petemc | Emmanuel_Chanel: try giving some details of the problem |
| 16:00.09 | enouf | abrotman: i think i scared him one night .. shhhhh |
| 16:00.15 | abrotman | him? |
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| 16:00.21 | enouf | her? |
| 16:00.26 | enouf | c'monn |
| 16:00.38 | enouf | i've seen pics! |
| 16:00.44 | Emmanuel_Chanel | I copied /etc/apache2/site-available/default{,-ssl} to site-enabled. |
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| 16:00.53 | Emmanuel_Chanel | The problem doesn't occur. |
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| 16:01.21 | Emmanuel_Chanel | Those files are 001-default and 002-ssl |
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| 16:01.32 | petemc | Emmanuel_Chanel: you can use a2ensite for that |
| 16:01.53 | Emmanuel_Chanel | It doesn't occur the problem. |
| 16:02.02 | petemc | fantastic then |
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| 16:02.10 | Emmanuel_Chanel | I edited those files. And no problem occurs on it. |
| 16:02.12 | Emmanuel_Chanel | But |
| 16:02.36 | Emmanuel_Chanel | When I brought the former 001-default , as 003-chanel, |
| 16:02.54 | Emmanuel_Chanel | 2[Thu Feb 19 00:48:59 2009] [warn] _default_ VirtualHost overlap on port 80, the first has precedence |
| 16:02.54 | Emmanuel_Chanel | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:02.57 | Emmanuel_Chanel | Is occur. |
| 16:04.17 | petemc | try to make your question less meandering |
| 16:06.49 | Emmanuel_Chanel | I should. :( |
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| 16:07.02 | Emmanuel_Chanel | So... I'm seeking the info. on the net. |
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| 16:12.44 | harez | hi! |
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| 16:15.39 | christoz | when i'm running firestarter via gui's menus on debian lenny i get this Could not create per-user gnome configuration directory `/root/.gnome2/': No such file or directory *** Error code 1 |
| 16:16.15 | christoz | well the error outup shows up only via terminal actually |
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| 16:16.49 | christoz | as a result of all these, firestarter cannot launch on desktop |
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| 16:24.19 | lifestream | Would anyone like to share their mouse config with me? xinitrc, etc |
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| 16:27.24 | beardy | !experimental |
| 16:27.24 | dpkg | experimental is the bleeding edge of Debian Development. Packages here have been deemed unfit/DANGEROUS/untrustworthy/etc for release by the maintainer responsible for them. DO NOT INSTALL PACKAGES FROM EXPERIMENTAL WITHOUT KNOWING EXACTLY WHY AND WHAT YOU ARE DOING. #debian does not support experimental. For an actual description, see section 4.6.4.3 of the Developer's Reference, or http://packages.debian.org/experimental/ |
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| 16:29.49 | flokuehn | dkr: thanks. i didnt know that. i`ll remember next time. |
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| 16:34.18 | Firestarter- | is it possible to gzip a bunch of files in a dir but create a gzip for each file seperately |
| 16:34.53 | petemc | Firestarter-: you could use a one liner for that |
| 16:34.57 | eoke | You can pass a command to find I believe |
| 16:36.01 | Firestarter- | petemc: how? |
| 16:36.47 | petemc | Firestarter-: find . -type f | while read ; do gzip -c "$REPLY" > "$REPLY".gz ; done |
| 16:36.50 | petemc | something like that |
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| 16:37.23 | Firestarter- | ok |
| 16:37.25 | Firestarter- | thanks |
| 16:37.54 | dimedo | why isn't it possible to chose twofish-xts for luks partitions in debian installer? is there a way to enable it manually? is there a way around that? |
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| 16:40.03 | lord_rob | Hi ! Now that it is open source, will vmware go into debian ? |
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| 16:41.55 | jamon | lord_rob: at some point probably if their license is debian compatible and a packager steps up |
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| 16:42.34 | froze | Has anyone here seen a problem with squirrelmail and the latest bugfix to ssl/tls? |
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| 16:46.24 | Goblinkiller | Hello |
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| 16:46.49 | moyix | hey, trying to compile the hello world kernel mod [from the howto] on sid amd64, and the compile fails with "error: #error unknown processor family" |
| 16:46.59 | moyix | I have linux-headers-`uname -r` |
| 16:47.25 | Goblinkiller | I just tried to dist-upgrade to Debian 5 and it stops during upgrade, saying it needs recent libc6, but can't install libc6 as long as there's not a 2.6 kernel. Now, it won't install a 2.6 kernel as there is no recent libc6 O.o What to do now? |
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| 16:47.45 | petemc | Goblinkiller: what are you upgrading from? |
| 16:48.17 | Goblinkiller | Debian Etch |
| 16:48.21 | Goblinkiller | with 2.4 kernel |
| 16:48.50 | petemc | did etch offer a 2.4 kernel? |
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| 16:49.02 | Goblinkiller | I think so |
| 16:49.15 | petemc | in any case, can you install 2.6.8 from the etch repos? |
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| 16:49.26 | petemc | or any 2.6 kernel |
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| 16:49.41 | stew | etch did not offer a 2.4 kernel |
| 16:50.06 | Goblinkiller | it was an older distribution then that was upgraded to etch without upgrading the kernel |
| 16:50.07 | moyix | the relevant line in module.h seems to be a "#ifdef CONFIG_X86_64" -- this define should be set (it is in /boot/config-`uname -r`), but for some reason it's not with the headers I have |
| 16:50.08 | stew | there are things which won't work in etch while running a 2.4 kernel, such as mysql |
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| 16:50.33 | stew | Goblinkiller: note that lenny WILL NOT work at all with a 2.4 kernel, you must upgrade to 2.6 BEFORE upgrading to lenny (the current stable) |
| 16:50.38 | jackweb | Is it possible to scroll in `top`? |
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| 16:50.49 | stew | ok, i guess he's already figured that part out :) |
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| 16:51.18 | astronaute | hello guys, can someone please tell me how to synchronize time in debian ? |
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| 16:51.22 | Goblinkiller | stew yes thanks but the problem is I messed it up :( and now it's a half lenny-system and I don't know how to get back to etch to try the correct procedure |
| 16:51.46 | arezey | 'd do a complete reinstall at this point |
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| 16:52.23 | Goblinkiller | it's a dedicated system I can not reinstall :( |
| 16:52.43 | arezey | uh? |
| 16:52.44 | arezey | why? |
| 16:52.57 | stew | Goblinkiller: what happens when you try to install a 2.6 kenrel? can you show us? use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
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| 16:54.40 | dutchfish | moyix, is DEB_HOST_ARCH properly set? |
| 16:55.01 | Goblinkiller | stew: http://pastebin.com/m702e7afb |
| 16:55.40 | moyix | dutchfish: how can I check? |
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| 16:56.18 | stew | Goblinkiller: yeah, this might become a pain. but I think you are going to have to backtrack to etch and get a kernel working first. try: /msg dpkg partial downgrade |
| 16:56.42 | dutchfish | moyix, you export is it like: export VER=$(date +'%Y%m%d') NAMEEXT="-custom-$(dpkg-architecture -qDEB_HOST_ARCH)" |
| 16:57.07 | parsifal_ | does anyone know of an egg timer program? |
| 16:57.15 | Goblinkiller | stew: unfortunately it removed aptitude :( |
| 16:57.18 | parsifal_ | not that Gnome applet one, but GTK would be nice |
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| 16:58.32 | moyix | dutchfish: dpkg-architecture -qDEB_HOST_ARCH returns amd64 as expected; building with those vars set produces the same error |
| 16:59.01 | moyix | dutchfish: fwiw, I'm following this: http://www.faqs.org/docs/kernel/c143.html |
| 16:59.04 | dutchfish | moyix, and i gues you have buildessential installed |
| 16:59.09 | moyix | dutchfish: yep |
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| 16:59.50 | dutchfish | moyix, are you runnning it with fakeroot? |
| 17:00.11 | jontyw | Hi, I'm having trouble running xen in lenny, is this the place to ask, or should I head over to #xen? |
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| 17:00.31 | parsifal_ | Wow, xfce4-timer-plugin |
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| 17:00.58 | dutchfish | moyix, and are you building under /usr/src ? |
| 17:01.00 | moyix | dutchfish: no, but I just checked with root, normal user, and fakeroot, and they produce the same result |
| 17:01.28 | moyix | dutchfish: no, out of my home dir, with the makefile shown here: http://www.faqs.org/docs/kernel/x204.html |
| 17:01.53 | parsifal_ | perfect |
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| 17:02.36 | eightfold | is it possible to use the cli installer with debian-live-500-i386-gnome-desktop.iso? |
| 17:03.06 | dutchfish | moyix, can you pastbin the build log? |
| 17:03.15 | eightfold | i don't necessarily want to install the gnome desktop env |
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| 17:04.03 | moyix | dutchfish: sure thing: http://pastebin.com/m6a272ac0 |
| 17:04.40 | BleSS | hi! does anybody knows any good email provider (not free providers)? |
| 17:05.01 | petemc | google |
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| 17:05.23 | dutchfish | moyix, and you did install curses dev package? |
| 17:05.25 | BleSS | please, not google |
| 17:06.13 | moyix | dutchfish: it wasn't, but having just installed it, didn't help :\ |
| 17:06.20 | abrotman | BleSS: this is #debian ... |
| 17:06.30 | dutchfish | moyix, lenny 64 ? |
| 17:06.41 | moyix | dutchfish: sid amd64 |
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| 17:07.06 | dutchfish | moyix, wich gcc? |
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| 17:07.28 | moyix | dutchfish: 4.3.3-4 |
| 17:07.34 | dimedo_ | why isn't it possible to chose twofish-xts for luks partitions in debian installer? is there a way to enable it manually? is there a way around that? |
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| 17:08.25 | BleSS | abrotman: yes, I thinked that any debian enthusiast would use any alternative to email free providers |
| 17:09.16 | jamon | BleSS: well i use postfix and dovecot since they're Free |
| 17:09.26 | Goblinkiller | Dovecot's dbox is great |
| 17:09.40 | BleSS | Goblinkiller: yes, I had thinked about that but then I've to maintain a server (security, patches, many hours to confing it :() |
| 17:10.06 | jamon | BleSS: it's as easy as aptitude update && aptitude upgrade |
| 17:10.11 | petemc | no its not |
| 17:10.11 | BleSS | jamon: it was for you :) |
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| 17:10.31 | dutchfish | moyix, i repeated your steps on a lenny up 2 date amd64 , and that example compiles fine ... so i am baffled a bit |
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| 17:10.50 | jamon | petemc: no? my postfixadmin+mysql+postfix+dovecot is extremely stable and didn't get clobbered moving from etch to lenny.. |
| 17:10.50 | BleSS | jamon: it looks that you have configured postfix, dovecot, etc ... |
| 17:11.06 | jamon | horde is the only real pita |
| 17:11.10 | petemc | jamon: configuring and running a mailserver properly takes a lot more |
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| 17:11.21 | astronaute | how can I see the server clock in command line please ? :) |
| 17:11.24 | Goblinkiller | jamon: horde is easy :pö |
| 17:11.35 | astronaute | the server time |
| 17:11.39 | Emmanuel_Chanel | Hello! |
| 17:11.56 | Emmanuel_Chanel | Reconfigure from the first, the problem extinct. |
| 17:12.06 | jamon | petemc: mine isn't an open relay if that's what you mean? oh, i have dkimproxy for signing too |
| 17:12.32 | dutchfish | moyix, my best bet is to double check your envirenment, or to created a chroot and do the stuff, i cant help you with sid itself because i never use that except in a chroot |
| 17:12.44 | jamon | Goblinkiller: well tell that to the imp folk who can't get proper sorting working between upgrades :p took ages to fix for me |
| 17:12.51 | moyix | dutchfish: ok, thanks for the help |
| 17:13.17 | Goblinkiller | jamon: I used to use horde cvs |
| 17:13.22 | dutchfish | moyix, maybe you can ask in #debian-kernel but you need patience in there |
| 17:13.29 | Goblinkiller | it's better than the released versions IMO |
| 17:13.55 | jamon | Goblinkiller: yeah i had to move it to /var/local and use a downloaded version instead of the .deb unfortunately |
| 17:13.59 | jamon | but it works :) |
| 17:13.59 | moyix | dutchfish: cool, I can idle with the best of them :) thanks |
| 17:14.16 | dutchfish | moyix, gl |
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| 17:15.22 | dutchfish | moyix, for you info your example also compiled in debian 64 with vanilla 2.6.28.5 |
| 17:16.22 | moyix | dutchfish: mysterious indeed. so something's clearly borked about my setup. iirc I could even compile kernel mods before (I was playing with kvm a while back), so something must have gotten messed up in the meantime |
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| 17:17.09 | dutchfish | moyix, well, i wouldnt be too surprised if something in SID is not ok, but again double check your environment to rule that out |
| 17:17.47 | Emmanuel_Chanel | Hello! |
| 17:18.29 | Emmanuel_Chanel | Do you know the problem that you cannot access apache2 on localhost? |
| 17:18.39 | markie- | Is there a lot involved when installing debian from a usb stick? |
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| 17:19.01 | Emmanuel_Chanel | Maybe yes. But I'm not. |
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| 17:20.06 | dutchfish | moyix, there are special tools to make adhoc snadboxes just for this ... |
| 17:20.20 | dutchfish | s/snadboxes/sandboxes |
| 17:20.55 | moyix | dutchfish: hmm, are you thinking of something like debootstrap? |
| 17:21.24 | dutchfish | moyix, yeh, but there are also tools for building packages and modules in an adhoc sandbox |
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| 17:22.24 | dutchfish | moyix, thats why i never felt the need to run sid |
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| 17:23.00 | pekka | vittu |
| 17:23.23 | dutchfish | moyix, or go the kvm road |
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| 17:23.44 | moyix | dutchfish: cool, I will try those out. thanks for all the help! |
| 17:23.57 | dutchfish | moyix, yw |
| 17:23.58 | abrotman | !tell markie- about usb install |
| 17:24.11 | abrotman | Emmanuel_Chanel: can you resolve 'localhost' ? |
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| 17:24.34 | Emmanuel_Chanel | Yes. |
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| 17:25.11 | markie- | :) |
| 17:25.17 | Emmanuel_Chanel | I couldn't access http://www.chanel.ath.cx/ from the desktop of the webserver, neither. |
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| 17:28.40 | Emmanuel_Chanel | abrotman: Solved. lo was down. :( |
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| 17:29.01 | Suckerville | hi. i've got a small problem with my mouse and i hope someone may be able to help |
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| 17:29.22 | markie- | !tell markie- about usb install |
| 17:29.48 | Suckerville | i've got two computers here, and both my keyboard and my mouse are connected to them through a KVM switch (ps/2 Mouse+keyboard connectors, +1 usb where the mouse is connected) |
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| 17:31.01 | Suckerville | i recently switched to the event-based mousedriver on the second computer. whenever i switch from my second computer to my first one, the mouse stops working in X11, and i get these lines in the Xorg.log: |
| 17:31.18 | Suckerville | (EE) Configured Mouse: Read error: No such device |
| 17:31.18 | Suckerville | (EE) Configured Mouse: Failed to reopen device after 10 attempts. |
| 17:31.18 | Suckerville | (II) Configured Mouse: Close |
| 17:31.28 | Suckerville | i tried googleing but didn't find anything helpful |
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| 17:35.02 | parsifal_ | xfce4 = awesome |
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| 17:35.34 | lifestream | Hey, anyone know why xf86 volume up, down, next song, blah blah, doesn't show in xmodmap -pke ? and how I can make them show up? :P |
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| 17:36.52 | cyberjames | Hi everyone. How to umount let say /mnt/image w/c I accidentally mount it with two ISO File? Here's the pastebin http://fpaste.org/paste/3993 |
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| 17:37.09 | Silver | lifestream: i just delt with that yesterday. i installed xkeybind and maually added the keys |
| 17:37.47 | Silver | there's probably a better solution |
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| 17:38.43 | lifestream | Oops |
| 17:38.52 | lifestream | Just quit xchat by accident |
| 17:39.02 | Suckerville | cyberjames: have you tried umount -f on each of the isos? |
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| 17:39.26 | cyberjames | Suckerville: got it, using -l |
| 17:39.30 | cyberjames | thanks |
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| 17:39.42 | roe_ | is there a lenny-backports yet? |
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| 17:40.10 | Silver | sqeezeeeeee me |
| 17:40.26 | beardy | !sqeeze Silver |
| 17:40.31 | Silver | yay |
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| 17:40.40 | simonrvn | squeeze |
| 17:40.54 | beardy | You think it matters? |
| 17:40.59 | beardy | !squeeze Silver |
| 17:41.19 | simonrvn | for that, no ;) |
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| 17:42.10 | halflife08 | lifestream: is there some process or some terminal session that has /mnt/image as cwd ? lsof should help you track it down |
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| 17:43.38 | halflife08 | oops wrong person s/lifestream/cyberjames/ |
| 17:43.58 | lifestream | ^^ |
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| 17:54.36 | cirzgamanti | what's the /dev/<sounddevice> in debian lenny? |
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| 17:54.49 | cirzgamanti | i was looking for dsp*, which isn't there. |
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| 17:55.01 | jackweb | Uhm... |
| 17:55.15 | simonrvn | depends on what sound system is built, not the distro version |
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| 17:55.36 | cirzgamanti | of course, i thought there's a default system that is used. my fault. |
| 17:55.50 | cirzgamanti | i guess it's alsa, but not sure. |
| 17:55.57 | simonrvn | /dev/snd/ is alsa, and will only have dsp if it has oss emulation support built. |
| 17:56.11 | simonrvn | modprobe -l | grep oss |
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| 17:56.44 | cirzgamanti | lots of oss modules. |
| 17:56.52 | cirzgamanti | there's no /dev/snd too though. |
| 17:57.02 | simonrvn | snd_pcm_oss is what you want first. |
| 17:57.21 | cirzgamanti | it's there. |
| 17:57.39 | vader-- | ok i have tried multiple times to upgrade the kernel on this debian sarge box |
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| 17:57.43 | vader-- | it is not going well |
| 17:57.46 | cirzgamanti | i do have sound, too, with mplayer and mpd, just wanted to set the sound device for mp3blaster cause it won't find any by itself. |
| 17:57.47 | jackweb | Does anybody know how to turn off Flash in Epiphany? :/ |
| 17:57.50 | vader-- | thank god i have vmware |
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| 17:57.58 | simonrvn | well, in that case, you can do it the lazy way, and instal alsaconf or do it via looking in lspci for your soundcard |
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| 17:59.53 | ASIRIneiluj | Hi |
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| 18:02.21 | ASIRIneiluj | I'd like to know if it's considered safe (at least as much as usual) to update a sid currently, some people told me that just after unfreezing testing due to stable release, sid tends to break often |
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| 18:03.30 | teratoma | do you know what sid is ? |
| 18:03.53 | orgthingy | "a" sid :P ? |
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| 18:04.04 | cirzgamanti | simonrvn: thx for the hint, turns out atm my sound card isn't working at all (it's an usb card), once i fixed this i'll try locating it. |
| 18:04.06 | ASIRIneiluj | a sid installation if you prefer |
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| 18:04.40 | ASIRIneiluj | teratoma: well yes, I'm not really aware of debian relase policies and their effect on what package can or can not go in sid |
| 18:04.42 | teratoma | so you're asking if the unstable release is ever unstable ? |
| 18:04.46 | J_P | Hey all, are there any software that can test a http server? For example. In server I will to try access localhost:8080. If open page with sucess do a task, if not (after a timeout) do another task. Is possible? |
| 18:04.49 | gynterk | anyone got apt-key for debian-unofficial? |
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| 18:05.17 | ASIRIneiluj | teratoma: I'm asking if it even more unstable after the relase of the stable version |
| 18:05.24 | stew | gynterk: in their faq |
| 18:05.26 | ASIRIneiluj | to my taste, sid is quite stable |
| 18:05.39 | stew | ASIRIneiluj: yes, sid is much more unstable right after a release |
| 18:05.55 | teratoma | J_P: wget gives you a return value if it successfully grabs a page. i write scripts to do that in perl with WWW::Mechanize. there's more elaborate frameworks out there for this too |
| 18:06.03 | gynterk | stew, pub 1024D/FDB8D39A 2008-01-02 [expires: 2009-02-01] |
| 18:06.15 | ASIRIneiluj | thanks stew |
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| 18:06.56 | stew | gynterk: ahh, you might drop an email to daniel@debian.org |
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| 18:07.02 | mcbane | Hi |
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| 18:07.12 | J_P | teratoma: could you tell me one ? I try in google and in debian apt-cache, but not find.. Or your script too :-) |
| 18:07.54 | mcbane | How big is a debian repo, all included, for all platforms for one release, lets say lenny? |
| 18:08.11 | abrotman | !dstats lenny |
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| 18:08.16 | abrotman | oh .. all platforms? |
| 18:08.18 | teratoma | J_P: what are you trying to do ? |
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| 18:08.26 | abrotman | well .. multiply what the bot will spit out by .. 10? |
| 18:08.35 | dpkg | Debian Distro Stats on lenny... 22972 packages, 1932 maintainers, 58994 MB installed size, 20835 MB compressed size. |
| 18:09.12 | mcbane | thanks dpkg |
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| 18:09.46 | J_P | teratoma: I have a html page running on port 8081. I would like monitoring that port.. doing a access each each 5 minutes for example. If page are ok, (answer ok) I do nothing, if not, I restart service.. |
| 18:10.33 | parsifal_ | 58994 MB.. is that if you install everything? |
| 18:10.43 | haxality | so I have two computers connected with a crossover cable as well as each being connected to my wireless network. how would I set them up to prefer the local connection over the wireless when communicating with each other? |
| 18:11.20 | abrotman | parsifal_: if you could |
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| 18:12.06 | teratoma | J_P: are you just doing this once? I do this on a wide scale with nagios. |
| 18:12.15 | parsifal_ | abrotman, ah |
| 18:12.27 | parsifal_ | I purposely install conflicting packages |
| 18:12.29 | parsifal_ | just for fun |
| 18:12.43 | simonrvn | o_O |
| 18:13.02 | J_P | teratoma: I would like some thing more simple... liek as a script.. |
| 18:13.28 | themill | abrotman: I think dstats is multiple arches, since ravenbird tracks ppc and gives the same answers. |
| 18:13.49 | abrotman | themill: so .. there are 4DVDs for fun ? |
| 18:13.52 | themill | abrotman: oh no... slightly different. |
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| 18:14.12 | simonrvn | i haven't edited the dstats output |
| 18:14.24 | themill | abrotman: heh.. good point... I'll just wander off and find me some coffee |
| 18:14.26 | teratoma | J_P: simplest thing i can think of is write a bash script on another machine, that you tell cron to run every 5 minutes that: uses wget to get a page. writes that page to a file. if that file contains what you think it should, do nothing, if it doesn't, restart the web server. |
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| 18:14.37 | gynterk | any ideas why apt-file update causes Can't get http://security.debian.org/dists/etch/updates/Contents-amd64.gz? |
| 18:14.48 | abrotman | i've been asking that for weeks ... |
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| 18:15.21 | themill | gynterk: don't worry about it, security updates don't tend to introduce new files so the main mirror is sufficient for apt-file to work ok. |
| 18:15.52 | berat | http://paste.org/5433 here lepine_w do you know plai scheme |
| 18:15.58 | berat | sorry |
| 18:16.08 | berat | wrong channel |
| 18:16.09 | J_P | teratoma: problem if server is congeals.. so wget not will receive data, and not will be return error, because server as serving in that page, but congeals.. so wget will be waiting.. waiting.. |
| 18:16.16 | gynterk | themill, ok, thanks |
| 18:16.46 | teratoma | J_P: so if server congeals ( i think you mean it hangs? ) it's not running right? you can PM me if you want |
| 18:17.00 | teratoma | i dont think is really a debian thing |
| 18:17.16 | J_P | teratoma: PM? |
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| 18:19.32 | abrotman | keep it in the channel please |
| 18:19.43 | mxmx | why does caught SIGTERM, shutting down happens every otehr day with m server? |
| 18:19.59 | teratoma | ok fine |
| 18:20.15 | teratoma | J_P: try wget out from command line, to a page that doesn't exist. notice it doesn't hang |
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| 18:21.06 | J_P | teratoma: problem is not with page that not exist but page that exist, with sreving to porto, but can'receive or send data |
| 18:21.10 | J_P | teratoma: see? |
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| 18:21.43 | J_P | teratoma: is this case wget will be wait or after a time wget will be out via a implicit timeout |
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| 18:21.49 | J_P | this is the point |
| 18:22.34 | teratoma | so if the machine you are running wget on cannot properly get the page, does that mean the webserver is not working correctly? also you should try to figure out why your webserver quits so much. |
| 18:23.14 | J_P | teratoma: I doing script in same machine where are there the webserver serving.. |
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| 18:23.50 | teratoma | J_P: ok. do you have a different machine you can your script from ? |
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| 18:24.17 | teratoma | I mean 'do you have a different machine you can run your script from ?' |
| 18:24.24 | J_P | teratoma: not |
| 18:24.32 | teratoma | J_P: does restarting your webserver fix your problem ? |
| 18:24.36 | mxmx | anyone?? |
| 18:24.44 | J_P | teratoma: yes |
| 18:24.53 | teratoma | mxmx: what is a m server |
| 18:24.59 | J_P | teratoma: like as a watchdog |
| 18:25.26 | J_P | teratoma: is my ownser http server, I need this until fix the real problem that are hangs.. |
| 18:26.02 | teratoma | J_P: when you think your web server is hung, can the machine your web server is running on reach other machines on the internet ? |
| 18:27.02 | J_P | teratoma: yes |
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| 18:27.44 | simonrvn | mxmx: vague question. |
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| 18:28.07 | jackweb | How to move data from swap do RAM? |
| 18:29.10 | teratoma | J_P: so is there any way, on the web server machine, that tells you that your webserver is hung (and i really think you should figure out why your webserver quits working correctly ) |
| 18:29.24 | simonrvn | !wayttd jackweb |
| 18:29.24 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, jackweb? |
| 18:29.37 | jackweb | :D |
| 18:29.52 | jackweb | Data is moved to Swap, when RAM is full, yes? |
| 18:30.01 | teratoma | J_P: it's hard for me to think of how you would determine your webserver is not working correctly if you have no way of detecting the webserver is not working correctly, from the machine the webserver is running on. |
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| 18:31.04 | simonrvn | jackweb: not that simple, no. |
| 18:31.16 | J_P | teratoma: is simple: wget 127.0.0.1:8081. If I get anything, webserver is ok, if not (wget stop and wait (this is the problem)) so I restart webserver |
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| 18:31.36 | teratoma | J_P: great ! |
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| 18:32.07 | J_P | teratoma: I hope that wget not waiting forever when webserver will be hangs.. |
| 18:32.23 | J_P | teratoma: but I think that wget has a implicit timeout |
| 18:32.32 | J_P | teratoma: to continuit the rest of script.. |
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| 18:32.43 | jelly | J_P: man wget, read about timeouts. |
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| 18:33.07 | J_P | jelly: yes.. I see now :-) |
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| 18:33.43 | jelly | jackweb: why are you asking this? |
| 18:34.05 | scientes_ | how can i prevent networkmanager from changing resolv.conf? |
| 18:34.06 | jackweb | jelly: SWAP is slower than RAM. |
| 18:34.07 | scientes_ | or do i just have to remove networkmanager? |
| 18:34.11 | scientes_ | i set it read only and it still changed |
| 18:34.22 | mxmx | simeon_ then what info would u need to anwer th question? |
| 18:34.31 | jackweb | I would like to transfer data from swap to RAM, when RAM is free. :] |
| 18:34.35 | scientes_ | jelly, MUCH slower |
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| 18:35.01 | teratoma | my machine hasn't touched swap in years |
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| 18:35.07 | jackweb | :] |
| 18:35.09 | scientes_ | jackweb, linux's swap system is excellent |
| 18:35.41 | scientes_ | the only time linux's ram system is sub-optimal is on a fresh system, linux's system is designed for systems that stay up |
| 18:35.58 | jelly | jackweb: RAM should never be free. It might be better to have more disk cache, than unused swapped off application data, in RAM. |
| 18:36.33 | scientes_ | jackweb, dont worry about optimal use of ram, only wory about how much you need or if your programs are using too much |
| 18:36.42 | deego | After upgrading to Lenny, debian attempts to auto-detect settings.. the display is offset by half a screen the monitors... I suspect I need to tell it in detail the resolution, etc... How do I do so in Lenny? xorg.conf is free of all such information.. |
| 18:36.43 | jelly | jackweb: so let me rephrase: is there a real-life situation that compels you to ask this question? |
| 18:37.02 | scientes_ | again:, how can i prevent networkmanager from changing resolv.conf? |
| 18:37.03 | jackweb | Already no. :) |
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| 18:37.18 | abrotman | deego: you can use X -configure if you really need to |
| 18:37.24 | abrotman | deego: or look at xrandr |
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| 18:37.53 | deego | abrotman: thanks |
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| 18:38.12 | ribasushi | jackweb: sometimes it is necessary to slurp swap back (say you do some very weird processing) - then all you do is detach the swap and reattach it |
| 18:38.18 | ribasushi | swapoff -a; swapon -a |
| 18:38.57 | Trewas | there was a swap prefetch patch to swap stuff automatically back from swap, it was supposed to solve the problem of (for example) nightly updatedb causing everything swapped off to make room for disk caches, and then computer being slow on the morning because everything had to be read from swap |
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| 18:39.03 | jackweb | ribasushi: ok, thanks. :) |
| 18:39.12 | deego | abrotman: how do I make such changes permanent? |
| 18:40.39 | vader-- | Do you guys know a good doc that would help me upgrade from sarge 2.4 to 2.6? |
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| 18:40.53 | abrotman | deego: which changes? |
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| 18:41.11 | abrotman | vader--: aptitude install kernel-image-2.6-686 ? |
| 18:41.18 | deego | abrotman: the changes that I will make with xrandr |
| 18:41.29 | TTT | hi, I have some microsoft mouse with 5 buttons. currently firefox goes back and forward on buttons 4 & 5. how do I make it STOP doing that? |
| 18:41.37 | abrotman | deego: oh, never thought about it .. hrm |
| 18:41.50 | TTT | (xev says these buttons are actually button 8 and 9) |
| 18:41.54 | ribasushi | jackweb: however |
| 18:42.03 | ribasushi | jackweb: you need to make sure you have overcommit turned off |
| 18:42.18 | ribasushi | jackweb: otherwise bad things will happen (running with overcommit is insanity these days anyway) |
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| 18:43.48 | blubberdiblub | TTT: they are remapped to 8 and 9 because 4 and 5 are conventionally reserved for y-scrolling and 6 and 7 for x-scrolling |
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| 18:44.43 | TTT | blubberdiblub, ok, i understand the reason for remapping, but how do I disable them or at least the scrolling on firefox |
| 18:45.02 | TTT | they are very easy to press by accident, and going back when filling out a form in firefox loses the data... |
| 18:45.50 | blubberdiblub | TTT: well, i'm change my mouse mappings in my xorg.conf file, but there are probably other ways i don't know about. maybe your desktop environment provides a setting |
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| 18:46.02 | TTT | ok, i need to restart X |
| 18:46.04 | TTT | blubberdiblub, thanks |
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| 18:49.32 | gotnone__ | Is this the right channel to ask a packaging question? |
| 18:49.39 | jackweb | "However", thank you that you're willing to help. :] |
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| 18:51.46 | lifestream | Does any kind soul know why xmodmap does not have a keycode for XF86AudioNext/Previous and Volume Up/Down? ---- Those keys WORK :P So why are they not listed there? |
| 18:52.21 | klync | i'm trying to connect to a jabber server behind a firewall with gaim. port 5222 is blocked, but 5223 is open. I get "Connection Failed" ... any thoughts? |
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| 18:56.16 | holycow | hi guys |
| 18:56.31 | bittin_ | Hello |
| 18:56.33 | holycow | i need an iso of etch, the debian website seems to link to lenny releases which is fine |
| 18:56.51 | holycow | none of the ftp's linked seem to archive older versions. where are those available? |
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| 18:57.51 | pop79 | Hi |
| 18:58.20 | sepski | holycow, http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/ |
| 18:58.43 | holycow | ah! |
| 18:58.43 | lifestream | If I want to go to Testing from Stable(Lenny), do I just replace all the "stables" and "lennys" with "testing", in sources.list? |
| 18:58.45 | holycow | danke |
| 18:58.54 | scientes_ | klync, 5223 is deprecated |
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| 18:59.25 | pop79 | need help on debian? try #debhelp as an alternative |
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| 18:59.29 | klync | scientes_: well, there is an option in the account settings to use the legacy port, which i've checked... seems this might just be too old a version to work with this setup |
| 18:59.29 | holycow | thanks very much |
| 18:59.34 | maligor | lifestream, sure, that'll work |
| 18:59.40 | klync | scientes_: i've been asking in #pidgin |
| 19:00.00 | scientes_ | yeah but many servers do not support it because it is deprecated |
| 19:00.05 | lifestream | maligor, for sure? Alright! *pulls sleeves up and gets to work* |
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| 19:00.22 | klync | scientes_: it's what the server supports - i spoke to the sysadmin about it already |
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| 19:00.42 | scientes_ | klync, yeah so if it failed the server probably does not support it |
| 19:00.47 | thingfish | remember when dpkg-reconfigure actually allowed you to configure something? What do people do in place of that now? |
| 19:01.00 | blubberdiblub | lifestream, for most repositories yes, since most popular ones have the "testing" directory or symlink. you might consider using "squeeze" instead of "testing", tho, but that depends on what you want the package management to do when squeeze gets stable |
| 19:01.03 | klync | scientes_: the server is listening, and the firewall is opened, on port 5223 |
| 19:01.07 | scientes_ | klync, also 5223 is pure SSL |
| 19:01.13 | maligor | lifestream, note that testing will have large changes and will probably break some things during it's lifetime |
| 19:01.18 | lifestream | blubberdiblub, I would like it to be permanently "Testing" |
| 19:01.19 | beardy | thingfish: Configure what exactly? |
| 19:01.21 | thingfish | oops, sorry, I meant dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 19:01.29 | klync | scientes_: 5222 is not open on the firewall, but other clients have been able to connect through the firewall |
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| 19:01.52 | beardy | thingfish: I think that's bad too, but it's how it is. You have to dig up a config, and.. config it manually. |
| 19:01.56 | lifestream | maligor, Mmmm yeah... I was wondering about that.. I want up to date software, but don't want to have to fix things every single day :P So that's why I'm not going with Unstable |
| 19:01.57 | beardy | When you have to. |
| 19:02.14 | maligor | lifestream, I don't fix things every single day, heh |
| 19:02.24 | thingfish | beardy: that's a shame. And it's not like my hardware is anywhere near exotic. |
| 19:02.31 | lifestream | And you use Squeeze now? Okay, then I guess I can deal with it :) |
| 19:02.37 | maligor | no, unstable |
| 19:02.47 | thingfish | simple nvidia 8600GT and an Acer 19" lcd |
| 19:02.53 | lifestream | Oh. Snap. ^^ Okay, then I think I'll be okay with Debian |
| 19:02.55 | lifestream | ooops |
| 19:02.59 | lifestream | with Testing I mean |
| 19:03.21 | blubberdiblub | lifestream, i went from lenny to squeeze without problems whatsoever, but well, your mileage may vary, obviously |
| 19:03.37 | maligor | lenny to squeeze should be trivial atm |
| 19:03.45 | maligor | it hasn't diverged almost atall |
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| 19:04.20 | thingfish | ok thanks, beardy |
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| 19:05.23 | beardy | thingfish: You're welcome. Long time no see btw. :) |
| 19:06.07 | thingfish | yes, it has been a long time. :) |
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| 19:07.35 | lifestream | Sorry guys, I'm very very clumsy no matter how hard I try, so could someone double check this to make sure this is what I want to do? ^_^;;;; |
| 19:07.40 | lifestream | http://paste.debian.net/28698/ |
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| 19:09.03 | usuario | Hi all!!!! |
| 19:09.13 | blubberdiblub | lifestream, decide on either "testing" or "squeeze", not both (tho of course it will work fine right now). otherwise it looks okay to me |
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| 19:09.34 | tzanger | quick question |
| 19:10.03 | lifestream | blubberdiblub, so I can replace squeeze with testing? See, my brain is mushy :P Thanks :) |
| 19:10.26 | usuario | I have a backup that is a tar.bz2 file that have 36GB, and I can't extract a file from that. =/ |
| 19:10.35 | tzanger | I'm trying to install etch (yes I know lenny's out) on a system... I have both i386 and amd64 images on a usb stick... sdb1 is amd64 and sdb2 is i386. the installer loads, but it won't let me select which paritition to scan, it scans them all and defaults to the first (amd64) -- is there a way through the shell or something to tell the installer which iso to use? |
| 19:11.04 | blubberdiblub | lifestream, sure, all repositories you're using should have a testing directory/symlink. well, leave the cdrom entry alone, tho. i'm not comfortable with that |
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| 19:11.46 | klync | omg, congrats to the team on the new release!! |
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| 19:11.49 | blubberdiblub | s/comfortable/familiar/ |
| 19:12.36 | lifestream | klync, its so great isn't it :) |
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| 19:12.56 | klync | lifestream: i would imagine so... i can't wait until i have some time to upgrade :) |
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| 19:13.06 | lifestream | xD! |
| 19:13.06 | tzanger | anyone? is it possible to tell etch's installer which iso to use rahter than accept what it auto-scans? |
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| 19:13.58 | dondelelcaro | usuario: there's nothing stoping you from extracting such a file; it'll just take a while |
| 19:14.24 | maligor | lifestream, the difference between using squeeze and testing is that squeeze will someday become stable, testing won't :P |
| 19:14.47 | lifestream | Right :p |
| 19:14.58 | blubberdiblub | as i already pointed out, i guess ;P |
| 19:15.20 | maligor | also you might want to familiarize yourself with the installer cd rescue function |
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| 19:15.49 | maligor | just in case, mhm |
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| 19:16.37 | usuario | dondelelcaro: ok, I'll wait, thanks |
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| 19:24.02 | lifestream | For testing, how would this line be? deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile testing/volatile main Right now it says 404 |
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| 19:25.35 | blubberdiblub | lifestream, squeeze doesn't seem to be on volatile yet |
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| 19:26.38 | stew | lifestream: volatile is only for released versions |
| 19:27.26 | lifestream | *bangs head on keyboard* hehe ^^ Thanks again |
| 19:27.30 | blubberdiblub | ah, okay, should've guessed that |
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| 19:32.44 | deego | How do I tell which xserver-xorg-video-XX was used when I /etc/init.d/gdm restart? (not talking of lspci .. but the actual one the system used..) |
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| 19:33.27 | jhutchins_wk | deego: How about the Xorg log file? |
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| 19:35.10 | deego | jhutchins_wk: sorry, yes, just found it there. It indeed uses glint as it should. And, the supported and recommended mode for this screen is 1440 x 900, but somehow it always ends up at 800x600 |
| 19:35.35 | deego | And, if I try to change the resolution via xrandr, the max. supported is 800x600.. |
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| 19:35.45 | deego | Before I upgraded to lenny, it used to be 1440x900.. |
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| 19:36.09 | deego | s/this/screen/this monitor: optiquest q19wb |
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| 19:37.12 | WpgGuy | I tried using my debian installer cd (#1) to just reinstall grub, but that didn't work. It required that the base system be installed first. It also has a rescue mode however, can I use that to reinstall grub? |
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| 19:38.02 | maligor | WpgGuy, use the rescue mode |
| 19:38.48 | maligor | WpgGuy, it'll ask you a bunch of questions and eventually end up with root access to the system |
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| 19:39.08 | maligor | you can use grub-install /dev/XXX to install grub |
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| 19:40.28 | WpgGuy | Thx maligor |
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| 19:41.42 | deego | Ah, If only I could specify the hsync and vsync values (for glint).. |
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| 19:43.17 | Gumby | Does anyone here know what specifies which config files are placed in a packages .conffile locate in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ ? I am trying to figure this out so a package I am creating does not have a specific file overwritten during a package version upgrade. |
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| 19:46.18 | avu | !ops siiibell does onjoin spam |
| 19:46.19 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: avu complains about: siiibell does onjoin spam |
| 19:46.22 | Goblinkiller | how do I install the configuration file of the package maintainer after I refused to do so when installing the new package first? |
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| 19:46.43 | pippo_ | I've installed netbeans and fonts are very ugly (all kind of text). It's impossible work for more of 5 minutes. I think this should be a well known problem on linux but I din't find anything to fix it. I use kde 3.5 |
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| 19:47.06 | stew | avu: thanks :) |
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| 19:48.47 | cirzgamanti | i messed up my gdm (set it to "accessible", now the menu is gone...), and can't find the setting in the configs. is there a way to reset the settings for a specific package? dpkg-reconfigure seems not to touch them. |
| 19:48.48 | Gumby | Goblinkiller, try dpkg-reconfigure package_name |
| 19:49.24 | Goblinkiller | thx..my Apache2 config file is "broken" after upgrade to Lenny, it won't load php5 and then aborts. dpkg-reconfigure didn't help |
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| 19:54.22 | valdyn | cirzgamanti: you used gdmsetup ? |
| 19:54.59 | cirzgamanti | valdyn: didn't know it, thx. |
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| 19:57.25 | valdyn | pippo_: java is skinnable, and comes with ist own tool to change look and feel |
| 19:57.54 | valdyn | pippo_: unless neatbeans uses whatever eclipse uses for its ui, but i dont think it does |
| 19:58.10 | cirzgamanti | valdyn: cool, that's exactly the dialog invoked at gdm startup. thx a lot :) |
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| 19:59.12 | valdyn | pippo_: ah, libswt is what eclipse uses, anyway i dont think netbeans uses that one |
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| 20:03.35 | WormBe | having a core2 cpu, should I download the ia64 cd? |
| 20:03.45 | valdyn | !ia64 |
| 20:03.45 | dpkg | it has been said that ia64 is (Intel Architecture-64), a 64-bit processor architecture developed in cooperation by Intel and Hewlett-Packard, implemented by processors such as Itanium and Itanium 2. The goal of Itanium was to produce a "post-RISC era" arch using EPIC. See http://www.debian.org/ports/ia64/ -- if your CPU is opteron/athlon64/turion/sempron/xeon/em64t/pentium/core2duo/core*, then it is NOT ia64, it's amd64. |
| 20:03.59 | OpenTokix | Every day |
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| 20:04.40 | Goblinkiller | After an upgrade to Lenny, Apache2 won |
| 20:04.46 | Goblinkiller | 't start, but tells: Syntax error on line 185 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Syntax error on line 1 of /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.load: Cannot load /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so into server: /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so: undefined symbol: xmlTextReaderSetup |
| 20:05.07 | Goblinkiller | how do I install the new config file if I didn't choose to do so while upgrading? |
| 20:05.11 | dondelelcaro | a/way |
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| 20:05.33 | dondelelcaro | Goblinkiller: there's no new config file; the problem is that libphp5.so can't be loaded because it's missing symbols |
| 20:05.53 | valdyn | Goblinkiller: dont you really need the php xml module |
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| 20:05.58 | dondelelcaro | Goblinkiller: for starters, try reinstalling libapache2-mod-php5; |
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| 20:06.27 | Goblinkiller | I did, and reainstalled apache2 too |
| 20:06.29 | Goblinkiller | didn't help |
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| 20:06.59 | dondelelcaro | Goblinkiller: if that doesn't work, we'll need to see the output of ldd /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so; and apt-cache policy libapache2-mod-php5; |
| 20:07.36 | Goblinkiller | ldd gives out links and memory adressses but no error message |
| 20:07.52 | dondelelcaro | Goblinkiller: it won't. I need to see the output. |
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| 20:08.22 | Goblinkiller | http://pastebin.com/m2abc7c42 |
| 20:08.23 | Goblinkiller | here you are |
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| 20:09.00 | valdyn | Goblinkiller: libxml2.so.2 => /usr/local/lib/libxml2.so.2 is not a debian file |
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| 20:09.21 | valdyn | Goblinkiller: and this line means that your php is using a libxml that is not from debian |
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| 20:09.47 | agilman | Hello, whats the debian way of loading kernel modules at startup? |
| 20:10.07 | valdyn | agilman: depends |
| 20:10.10 | valdyn | agilman: which module? |
| 20:10.11 | agilman | in arch there was a conf file: /etc/rc.d/rc.conf... whats the debian way? |
| 20:10.21 | agilman | valdyn: nvidia |
| 20:10.25 | Goblinkiller | /etc/modules? |
| 20:10.31 | valdyn | agilman: its loaded automatically |
| 20:11.06 | valdyn | agilman: now you can still add it to /etc/modules, but on a proper debian system its loaded automatically |
| 20:11.28 | agilman | valdyn: hmm, doesn't seem to load for me. Let me reboot... |
| 20:11.49 | valdyn | agilman: are you using a custom kernel? |
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| 20:12.54 | Goblinkiller | thanks guys, dondelelcaro and valdyn |
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| 20:13.13 | valdyn | agilman: or did you just not use debian packages but the nvidia installer? |
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| 20:15.06 | one_2_one | hi all |
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| 20:15.12 | Lagaro | hello |
| 20:15.19 | one_2_one | stops here :| Deconfiguring network interfaces |
| 20:15.27 | one_2_one | what can be the problem? |
| 20:15.59 | nsadmin | what stops where? |
| 20:16.02 | nsadmin | !sicco |
| 20:16.02 | dpkg | Please ask sicco questions, questions that are Specific, Informative, Concise, Complete, and On-topic. Ask me about <research> and <cooperation in asking for help>. |
| 20:16.30 | valdyn | !8-ball one_2_one |
| 20:16.33 | Lagaro | one_2_one: does it freeze there when you halt the box? |
| 20:16.36 | valdyn | !8ball one_2_one |
| 20:16.36 | dpkg | Unsure. |
| 20:16.39 | one_2_one | yes |
| 20:16.51 | one_2_one | on halting, shutdown |
| 20:17.04 | valdyn | one_2_one: does <enter> add a newline at that "frozen" state? |
| 20:17.11 | Lagaro | one_2_one: so, what driver does your network interface use? which interfaces are up at that time? |
| 20:17.23 | agilman | valdyn: yeah, I used the nvidia installer |
| 20:17.30 | nsadmin | more details please. what version? what kernel? had this worked before? if so, what had you changed since then? |
| 20:17.37 | valdyn | agilman: install the package nvidia-kernel-common |
| 20:17.37 | one_2_one | only one NIC eth0, driver ... is one ps2 |
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| 20:17.55 | agilman | ok, thanks |
| 20:17.56 | valdyn | agilman: that will add some modprobe.d magic to have autoloading on |
| 20:17.57 | one_2_one | im waiting now that he checks disk :| |
| 20:18.20 | valdyn | agilman: your nvidia installer stuff will stay though |
| 20:18.37 | Lagaro | one_2_one: well, bring the interface down manually using 'ifdown eth0' if you use /etc/network/interfaces to configure the interface |
| 20:19.11 | one_2_one | i only changed on resolv.conf |
| 20:19.16 | Lagaro | one_2_one: also, can I see your /etc/network/interfaces |
| 20:19.31 | Lagaro | one_2_one: all you changed was /etc/resolv.conf? |
| 20:19.39 | one_2_one | yes |
| 20:19.43 | nsadmin | did it work before that? |
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| 20:20.21 | one_2_one | nsadmin, yes... but ive installed more stuff |
| 20:20.48 | Lagaro | one_2_one: like what? anything networking-related? |
| 20:20.49 | nsadmin | between the time it worked and it failed? |
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| 20:21.38 | one_2_one | yes probably.... upgrade |
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| 20:22.21 | one_2_one | takes time for check disk :| |
| 20:22.29 | CarlFK | apt-get install mysql-server prompts for an admin pw - how can I script that? (seed the value or ignore it and config the thing later) |
| 20:23.22 | valdyn | CarlFK: dpkg-reconfigure debconf has a non-interactive option |
| 20:23.33 | valdyn | CarlFK: not sure that will do what you want |
| 20:23.47 | CarlFK | valdyn: sounds close though... |
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| 20:24.25 | valdyn | CarlFK: iirc that will also trigger mails |
| 20:24.40 | one_2_one | Lagaro, http://rafb.net/p/YLWJTO84.html |
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| 20:25.52 | lifestream | Are there any errors here? O_o http://paste.debian.net/28704/ (regarding 'make') |
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| 20:26.30 | valdyn | one_2_one: whats in your /etc/network/if-down.d and /etc/network/if-post-down.d ? |
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| 20:27.02 | valdyn | lifestream: running make as root with sudo is an error |
| 20:27.18 | one_2_one | valdyn, nothing |
| 20:27.20 | valdyn | lifestream: but thats probably not what you meant |
| 20:27.20 | lifestream | valdyn, I thought so too, but thats what the tutorial said xD |
| 20:27.41 | nsadmin | why is it needed to build as root? |
| 20:27.44 | valdyn | lifestream: that tutorial needs to die.. |
| 20:27.47 | lifestream | lifestream, its not clear to me if that command finished sucessfully because when I type sudo make install, nothing happens |
| 20:27.52 | parsifal_ | is there a way to get cp to confirm with me before it overwrites a file? |
| 20:27.57 | parsifal_ | I notice in Debian it doesn't |
| 20:28.05 | valdyn | lifestream: the driver was made, thats ok |
| 20:28.16 | lifestream | *wipes sweat off forehead* Okay :P Thanks :) |
| 20:28.16 | valdyn | lifestream: you dont have to use make install, you can also copy the file |
| 20:28.22 | nsadmin | parsifal_ man cp, look for -i |
| 20:28.31 | valdyn | lifestream: just lmpcm_usb.ko |
| 20:28.32 | parsifal_ | nsadmin, is there a way to configure it to do it by default? |
| 20:28.35 | lifestream | LOL the tutorial says to do make install... OK I'm trashing that Tut |
| 20:28.41 | nsadmin | man cp |
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| 20:29.10 | valdyn | lifestream: simply copy to /lib/modules/$(uname -r) or a subdirectory of your choice ( just not build or source directories ) |
| 20:29.14 | parsifal_ | I'll take that as a dunno |
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| 20:29.23 | valdyn | lifestream: followed by a depmod -a, done |
| 20:29.30 | lifestream | valdyn, I see you're familiar with this module ^^ |
| 20:29.36 | valdyn | lifestream: no im not |
| 20:29.56 | one_2_one | valdyn shoul be there anything ? |
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| 20:30.12 | valdyn | one_2_one: no, if there was anything it could be a cause of your hang |
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| 20:30.26 | phyburn | how do I remove everything that was installed from a package? apt-get seems to leave a bunch of junk |
| 20:30.26 | one_2_one | most probably |
| 20:30.31 | phyburn | apt-get remove* |
| 20:30.42 | Hoxzer | dpkg --purge actually |
| 20:30.42 | dpkg | drinks a glass of salty water, sticks his fingers down his throat and throws up actually all over hoxzer and ryan-c... |
| 20:30.43 | nsadmin | parsifal_ or as a why should I |
| 20:30.43 | valdyn | !purge |
| 20:30.44 | dpkg | methinks purge is to completely wipe away a package, including its config files. Use aptitude purge [package] or if you already removed package with apt-get remove, and forgot config files you can use 'dpkg -P <package>' to remove configs. To purge all config files of all removed packages: aptitude purge '~c', or see <confmiss> about restoring individual config files |
| 20:30.52 | LiamH | Is there a good reason why I would get a WARNING for untrusted versions of libgnutls13 libpam-krb5 on an etch upgrade? |
| 20:30.55 | phyburn | ahhh thats what it was thanks |
| 20:31.06 | Scruffy | apt-get --purge remove package |
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| 20:31.17 | LiamH | Using http://security.debian.org/ |
| 20:31.21 | phyburn | thanks scruffy! |
| 20:31.36 | Scruffy | np |
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| 20:32.24 | valdyn | LiamH: and referencing what? stable or etch or lenny? |
| 20:32.38 | LiamH | etch |
| 20:32.47 | valdyn | LiamH: literally in sources.list ? |
| 20:32.53 | LiamH | valdyn: yes |
| 20:33.03 | valdyn | LiamH: i dont know then |
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| 20:33.17 | valdyn | LiamH: got directed to a mirror that isnt done mirroring? i dont know |
| 20:33.37 | LiamH | valdyn: possibly, maybe I should try again later |
| 20:33.44 | valdyn | LiamH: yes |
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| 20:33.54 | LiamH | but would the etch keys have changed at all in the last couple weeks? |
| 20:33.56 | blubberdiblub | parsifal_, you can create an alias in your shell's startup file that adds the -i option by default. bash might already have some commented lines in one of its startup files that will do that when you remove the hash character in front of them |
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| 20:34.58 | valdyn | LiamH: i got only one etch key |
| 20:35.52 | LiamH | valdyn: oh you are referring to the packages changing I presume |
| 20:35.59 | parsifal_ | blubberdiblub, ahhh, that's a great idea |
| 20:36.02 | parsifal_ | blubberdiblub, thanks |
| 20:36.14 | blubberdiblub | you're welcome |
| 20:36.17 | valdyn | LiamH: yea, not referring to the key |
| 20:36.51 | LiamH | valdyn: OK I will try again later. |
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| 20:41.29 | one_2_one | valdyn can you send me yours script for eth0 in that 2 folders ? |
| 20:41.40 | valdyn | one_2_one: wtf |
| 20:41.54 | valdyn | one_2_one: those scripts could be the cause of your hang if any were there |
| 20:42.05 | valdyn | one_2_one: nothing there so one place less to debug |
| 20:42.11 | valdyn | one_2_one: thats good, you dont need my scripts |
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| 20:42.15 | one_2_one | lol |
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| 20:42.54 | one_2_one | i understand at wrong way |
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| 20:43.53 | valdyn | one_2_one: add " -x" to the very first line in /etc/init.d/networking |
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| 20:44.26 | TimRiker | how does one use firmware blobs in a network (ie: PXE) install ? |
| 20:44.43 | valdyn | one_2_one: then try "ifdown -a" and "ifup -a" and /etc/init.d/networking stop && /etc/init.d/networking start without rebooting, see if that works ok |
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| 20:45.16 | valdyn | one_2_one: if all that works try the reboot thing, note any errors if it hangs |
| 20:45.20 | TimRiker | http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.amd64/ch06s04.html is not very helpful... I guess I need "a medium" |
| 20:45.22 | valdyn | one_2_one: and if it hangs without error then note any output |
| 20:45.30 | one_2_one | ok |
| 20:45.32 | one_2_one | thks |
| 20:46.11 | nsadmin | you might want to say each one you do that works too |
| 20:46.24 | one_2_one | no error |
| 20:46.36 | stoned | TimRiker, hey |
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| 20:46.59 | stoned | TimRiker, you are 'abotman' ;) hehehe, I been waiting to say that for a while |
| 20:47.04 | TimRiker | stoned: heya. not bumped into you in a while. :) |
| 20:47.09 | abrotman | i'm still here! |
| 20:47.10 | one_2_one | http://rafb.net/p/CqPiGv18.html |
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| 20:47.12 | stoned | yessir been busy |
| 20:47.15 | one_2_one | gonna reboot |
| 20:47.16 | stoned | how've you been |
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| 20:47.45 | nsadmin | one_2_one: so the last thing you did was /etc/init.d/networking start? |
| 20:47.46 | stoned | apt, whose yo daddy |
| 20:47.56 | TimRiker | stoned: can't complain. just pushing out lenny everywhere. :) |
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| 20:48.07 | one_2_one | nsadmin, yes |
| 20:48.08 | stoned | yeh me too, by far the best debian yet |
| 20:48.12 | [twisti] | hey, i installed apache2, but my /etc/apache2/httpd.conf if 0 bytes |
| 20:48.24 | [twisti] | any idea how i can get the default httpd.conf ? |
| 20:48.26 | one_2_one | ifdown -a && ifup -a && /etc/init.d/networking stop && /etc/init.d/networking start |
| 20:48.32 | stoned | I haven't checked my nyc soc mail yet, but I'm sure we have a lenny party planned soon in nyc |
| 20:48.35 | abrotman | stoned: that's only because you didn't upgrade an architecture that failed to update its bootloader leaving you with a dead system ... |
| 20:48.44 | abrotman | stoned: it happened last weekend |
| 20:48.59 | TimRiker | guess I'll need to rebuild the initrd and add the files from the firmware deb. it would be nice to provide one of these with the firmware that debian does already redistribute. |
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| 20:49.00 | stoned | oh |
| 20:49.00 | nsadmin | one_2_one and the networkign in that box is working (you can reach major websites)? |
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| 20:49.12 | stoned | one little mishap, but still its the best debian yet |
| 20:49.28 | [twisti] | i tried dpkg-preconfigure apache2 and got: |
| 20:49.36 | nsadmin | stoned what happened? what mishap? |
| 20:49.37 | [twisti] | E: Could not open file apache2 - open (2 No such file or directory) |
| 20:49.37 | [twisti] | E: Unable to determine the file size - fstat (9 Bad file descriptor) |
| 20:49.37 | [twisti] | E: Read error - read (9 Bad file descriptor) |
| 20:49.37 | [twisti] | E: Prior errors apply to apache2 |
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| 20:49.41 | [twisti] | i dont know what that means |
| 20:49.46 | [twisti] | sorry for big paste |
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| 20:49.55 | TimRiker | is there a netboot initrd that has all the debian firmware in it already? (would be non-free of course) |
| 20:50.02 | valdyn | [twisti]: why dpkg-preconfigure instead of dpkg-reconfigure ? |
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| 20:50.13 | abrotman | stoned: it actually happened on i386 also, but less noticed because it was grub2 instead of grub |
| 20:50.13 | mrblue | hello to all |
| 20:50.16 | [twisti] | i tried reconfigure, it doesnt do anything at all |
| 20:50.22 | [twisti] | no errors, nothing |
| 20:50.24 | valdyn | [twisti]: thats fine |
| 20:50.29 | one_2_one | <nsadmin> well i only tryed ping and used apt tools with success , net time i will try with lynx |
| 20:50.34 | stoned | TimRiker, no |
| 20:50.42 | valdyn | [twisti]: perfectly fine, thats no reason to run an unknown program |
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| 20:50.53 | nsadmin | one_2_one: ok, so your networking is up |
| 20:51.04 | abrotman | TimRiker: actually .. ISTR there is .. moment |
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| 20:51.08 | [twisti] | valdyn: well, it didnt make the httpd.conf file anything other than size 0 |
| 20:51.15 | user___ | alguien me dice el canal de irc para debian en español? |
| 20:51.19 | abrotman | !es |
| 20:51.19 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 20:51.19 | stoned | TimRiker, though I might not known enough about it |
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| 20:51.24 | mrblue | is there anyone that can help me? |
| 20:51.24 | abrotman | TimRiker: http://dannf.org/bloggf/tech/add-firmware-to.html .. maybe ? |
| 20:51.27 | one_2_one | yes... its show some warning about config_packet an config_filter |
| 20:51.32 | one_2_one | *and |
| 20:51.33 | nsadmin | the pings (depending on what you pinged) and the apt use proves that |
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| 20:51.42 | valdyn | [twisti]: its not supposed to, and it wouldnt even be supposed to do that if the package apache2 actually contains any file named httpd.conf |
| 20:51.42 | abrotman | mrblue: you have to ask your question first |
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| 20:52.02 | valdyn | !tell [twisti] -about search |
| 20:52.05 | [twisti] | ok, so where do i get my httpd.conf then |
| 20:52.07 | nsadmin | one_2_one: shows you this warning when you do what? |
| 20:52.08 | valdyn | !tell [twisti] -about confmiss |
| 20:52.24 | [twisti] | i see, thank you |
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| 20:52.31 | TimRiker | abrotman: cool. that looks like about what I was planning. I'll give it a shot. |
| 20:52.38 | one_2_one | i have to connect to tv to see what happens on ssh seem an normal reboot |
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| 20:53.06 | one_2_one | nsadmin> one_2_one: shows you this warning when you do what? when booting maybe networking service is loading or some related |
| 20:53.07 | wwp | hi there |
| 20:53.10 | nsadmin | so you get this warning when you boot? |
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| 20:53.15 | nsadmin | or when? |
| 20:53.30 | nsadmin | oh ok |
| 20:53.46 | nsadmin | so it' |
| 20:53.48 | nsadmin | err |
| 20:54.00 | valdyn | one_2_one: warnings are not a problem, even explicit errors are not necessarily a problem when running the script in debug mode |
| 20:54.09 | simonrvn | there is no httpd.conf in the apache2 packages |
| 20:54.10 | wwp | I'm trying to install a debian using a daily unstable netinst iso, but the process is stuck at "Retrieving file 821 or 821" in the "Select and install software" page. is this a known issue? |
| 20:54.12 | nsadmin | so it's not when you type some specific thing |
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| 20:54.45 | streuner_ | wwp: /msg dpkg sid faq |
| 20:54.51 | nsadmin | one_2_one: so I want you to notice how I'm trying to gather this information |
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| 20:54.53 | wwp | tx |
| 20:55.03 | mrblue | after last update I have saw that my system doesn't work right... my debian doesn't recognise correctly files extension |
| 20:55.15 | [twisti] | valdyn: that also didnt help |
| 20:55.18 | igrek | noob question: what package name for the FireFox? |
| 20:55.21 | [twisti] | the file is still gone |
| 20:55.23 | one_2_one | sry brb |
| 20:55.35 | valdyn | [twisti]: you didnt do this as dpkg explained |
| 20:55.37 | simonrvn | mrblue: the os doesn't depends on file extensions. try ##windows :P. |
| 20:55.41 | nsadmin | igrek: probably iceweasel-browser? |
| 20:55.45 | simonrvn | depend* |
| 20:55.50 | [twisti] | valdyn: i did: aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" reinstall apache2; |
| 20:55.54 | valdyn | [twisti]: step 1) find out which package owns that file, 2) remove the file 3) use confmiss |
| 20:55.56 | simonrvn | !firefox |
| 20:55.56 | dpkg | firefox is, like, replaced by iceweasel in Debian. Ask me about <iceweasel>, <why iceweasel>. |
| 20:56.04 | wwp | streuner_: the faq doesn't help there, or I missed somthing? |
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| 20:56.17 | lifestream | Anyone got HIDpoint working on Debian? |
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| 20:56.32 | simonrvn | wwp: it's a daily unstable iso. you get what you pay for ;p |
| 20:56.35 | igrek | simonrvn, nsadmin: thnx! |
| 20:56.41 | valdyn | [twisti]: I made dpkg tell you about search for a reason: dpkg -S <file> is what you missed |
| 20:56.41 | mrblue | ohh very nice! and now... what do you say better? |
| 20:57.00 | wwp | simonrvn: apparently that's not specific to daily unstable iso: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/debianlenny-install-hangs-at-retrieving-file-811-of-811-705467/?posted=1#post3448614 |
| 20:57.08 | [twisti] | oh, sorry, i only noticed the last thing the bot told me, didnt see there were two |
| 20:57.08 | nsadmin | igrek: also notice simonrvn/dpkg |
| 20:57.12 | one_2_one | back |
| 20:57.15 | simonrvn | mrblue: give us more info. "my debian" isn't specific enough. |
| 20:57.23 | one_2_one | <nsadmin> didnt reboot |
| 20:57.30 | simonrvn | wwp: ah thanks |
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| 20:57.41 | nsadmin | one_2_one: what's the last thing you see? |
| 20:57.48 | mrblue | debian 5.0 gnome 2.22.3 |
| 20:57.55 | simonrvn | wwp: see BTS (/msg dpkg bts); they'll likely be bug reports about it. |
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| 20:58.04 | MrFahrenheit | can someoune help me out with some english skills: how do you call a database table that is for example like a list of statuses or a list of priorities, you know just two columns Id and Name. In my language we have a word for it "Šifarnik" rought translation is codebook or codesheet but I don't think that's it |
| 20:58.23 | simonrvn | mrblue : Please ask questions that are Specific, Informative, Complete, Concise, and On-topic. |
| 20:58.26 | wwp | simeon_: ok |
| 20:58.33 | one_2_one | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:58.44 | [twisti] | valdyn: according to dpkg, that file doesnt exist. according to google, it does. what now ? |
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| 20:58.58 | valdyn | [twisti]: you entered the wrong file |
| 20:59.01 | abrotman | mrblue: are you on unstable? |
| 20:59.16 | nsadmin | valdyn: pls stick with us... all I'm doing is piecing together info and getting him to notice how I'm doing that |
| 20:59.17 | [twisti] | valdyn: i did ? |
| 20:59.17 | abrotman | MrFahrenheit: a poorly designed table? :) |
| 20:59.22 | abrotman | MrFahrenheit: try #sql |
| 20:59.23 | [twisti] | what file should i have put ? |
| 20:59.34 | valdyn | [twisti]: tell us what you did put |
| 20:59.40 | [twisti] | im missing my /etc/apache2/httpd.conf, so i put /etc/apache2/httpd.conf |
| 20:59.47 | [twisti] | i tried just httpd.conf too, jsut to make sure |
| 20:59.49 | abrotman | MrFahrenheit: Code Table perhaps? |
| 20:59.57 | one_2_one | Solution is to offload the network card |
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| 21:00.09 | MrFahrenheit | sounds too ordinary abrotman :D |
| 21:00.17 | mrblue | abrotman: no... I'm on testing |
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| 21:00.19 | simonrvn | [twisti]: that file *is not* packaged. it's a locally-created file. |
| 21:00.30 | valdyn | [twisti]: you did it all correctly |
| 21:00.38 | [twisti] | then where do i get that file ? |
| 21:00.43 | nsadmin | I wonder if I should upgrade the laptop |
| 21:00.45 | valdyn | [twisti]: debian has no such file |
| 21:00.47 | themill | [twisti]: httpd.conf isn't really used by debian's apache2. It needs to exist but it is usually empty. |
| 21:00.54 | [twisti] | oh lol |
| 21:00.57 | simonrvn | i'm not repeating what i just said. |
| 21:01.05 | [twisti] | someone should have told me that a while ago |
| 21:01.23 | simonrvn | i did |
| 21:01.24 | valdyn | [twisti]: guess I forgot to check that,duh |
| 21:01.28 | [twisti] | themill: do you know where the default apache stuff is stored on debian then ? |
| 21:01.30 | wwp | simeon_: several bug matched, mostly: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=416308#26 |
| 21:01.43 | [twisti] | because i couldnt find the wwwroot setting in any of the config files in /etc/apache2 |
| 21:01.49 | simonrvn | wwp: bad tab completion ;) |
| 21:01.54 | nsadmin | why does it need to exist if it's empty? |
| 21:01.55 | valdyn | [twisti]: /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ |
| 21:01.55 | wwp | oops |
| 21:01.56 | themill | [twisti]: most of it is in the apache-common package, I think. |
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| 21:02.06 | nsadmin | I suppose that's a package design question :) |
| 21:02.15 | [twisti] | valdyn: thanks |
| 21:02.18 | MrFahrenheit | aaa, abrotman I think it's keycode, key/code or key-code tables |
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| 21:02.25 | simonrvn | i checked. there's no httpd.conf in apache2.2-common |
| 21:02.28 | valdyn | [twisti]: also /etc/apache2/conf.d/* for |
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| 21:02.40 | abrotman | MrFahrenheit: i'd probably ask #sql |
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| 21:03.01 | themill | nsadmin: you're free to add stuff to it, and apache will then use it. But since you have to "Include" the file in the config, it then has to exist always. |
| 21:03.22 | nsadmin | well yes, I understand the mechanics |
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| 21:03.47 | SerajewelKS | why would i be getting this when connecting to an ftps server with lftp? "ls: Fatal error: gnutls_handshake: ASN1 parser: Error in TAG." |
| 21:03.52 | SerajewelKS | i have ftp:ssl-force on |
| 21:03.52 | nsadmin | I guess what I'm asking is what is including that file and why |
| 21:03.56 | SerajewelKS | i'm not sure what else i have to do |
| 21:04.23 | simonrvn | he probably uncommented the statement in some /etc/apache2 where it does include it. |
| 21:04.27 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: certificate missing? |
| 21:04.29 | simonrvn | * file |
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| 21:04.50 | nsadmin | oh... so it's a local problem |
| 21:05.02 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: apache2 shows me an error like that in such a case |
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| 21:05.27 | riot | hmm, i just installed mailman, followed the advice in README.Exim4 but still exim claims unroutable address :( |
| 21:05.31 | themill | nsadmin, simonrvn: the default apache2.conf in etch has "Include /etc/apache2/httpd.conf" in it. |
| 21:05.44 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: i think the certificate is expired actually, can lftp be told to ignore this? |
| 21:05.53 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: no idea |
| 21:06.05 | nsadmin | themill: oh, is that uncommented? |
| 21:06.08 | themill | yes |
| 21:06.21 | nsadmin | ok, so it's not a local problem :) |
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| 21:06.39 | themill | And the apache2.2-common package's postint creates the empty httpd.conf. See /var/lib/dpkg/info/apache2.2-common.postinst |
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| 21:07.14 | themill | so reinstalling that package should also recreate that file. |
| 21:07.21 | nsadmin | any idea why that was done? |
| 21:07.30 | themill | why what was done? |
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| 21:08.11 | Tar-Get | I'm looking for a groupware service. Is phpgroupware recommended or are there better alternatives? |
| 21:08.21 | valdyn | !better |
| 21:08.22 | dpkg | rumour has it, better is a matter of personal taste; asking "is foo better than bar?" is almost meaningless unless we know what *you* mean by "better". |
| 21:08.24 | valdyn | !best |
| 21:08.24 | dpkg | Best for what? Please define what you mean by "best". Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play! Anyone for Tennis! |
| 21:08.25 | nsadmin | why have apache2 packaging generate a file that includes an empty file necessitating other parts of packaging to build the empty file (it's a design question) |
| 21:08.26 | one_2_one | check forced :| |
| 21:08.31 | helo | is it possible to change the user id of a process once it has already started? |
| 21:08.37 | valdyn | helo: no |
| 21:08.49 | helo | (without setuid()) |
| 21:08.56 | helo | hmmmm |
| 21:09.07 | nsadmin | probably that's a good thing :P |
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| 21:09.26 | themill | nsadmin: so that the admin can throw config snippets into httpd.conf -- it allows you to customise the config without having to fight dpkg on every package upgrade to cope with config file changes. |
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| 21:09.56 | nsadmin | oh ok, so it's meant as an easy place to find |
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| 21:10.56 | valdyn | that file should have a comment in it |
| 21:11.01 | valdyn | for convenience |
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| 21:11.18 | hanshans | hi all, does somebody know where to put 'libflashplayer.so' (flashplayer-plugin) in? i tried /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins and /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins and nothing worked... |
| 21:11.23 | nsadmin | to explain its purpose |
| 21:11.47 | valdyn | hanshans: use the debian package for flash |
| 21:11.52 | valdyn | hanshans: one is in dmm |
| 21:11.57 | valdyn | !tell hanshans -about dmm |
| 21:12.02 | nsadmin | does it matter what order things go in the apache config? |
| 21:12.10 | adb | hanshans: restart all webs |
| 21:12.14 | themill | nsadmin: If you ever used apache under RHL, you'd know the pain that caused. Personally, I use the conf.d mechanism instead. |
| 21:12.32 | OpenTokix | hanshans: in /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins, make sure to restart |
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| 21:12.49 | OpenTokix | themill: I converted a debian-tree to RH-machine =) |
| 21:13.14 | OpenTokix | themill: ugly mess of symlinks - but it worked |
| 21:13.17 | themill | nsadmin: yes, order is important; you can undo previous directives to allow you to override settings in the default config file. With debian's config file layout, you can usually get away without touching apache2.conf and then your life is happier. |
| 21:13.41 | hanshans | valdyn: adb: OpenTokix: thx all |
| 21:13.44 | one_2_one | nsadmin, found the problem in confines of internet>I had a hang at shutdown "NETDEV watchdog timeout on eth0", caused by some dispute about how to bring the ethernet down. My solution was to hack /etc/init.d/ssh so it kills all sshd processes, not just the listener, and to /etc/init.d/networking to wait until "netstat -tn" claimed there were no exisiting TCP connections before using ifdown. |
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| 21:14.49 | valdyn | one_2_one: NETDEV watchdog should be unrelated |
| 21:15.03 | nsadmin | one_2_one: wow... you had to do all that? it would seem that such processes should have died through other means |
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| 21:15.22 | lifestream | Hmmmm do I have to recompile the whole kernel to install 1 module? xD |
| 21:15.24 | KomiaPoika | hi |
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| 21:15.34 | valdyn | lifestream: no |
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| 21:15.51 | KomiaPoika | how can i get fullscreen in xorg (1024x798 instead of 800x600) in debian5 on a toshiba tecra 8200 laptop? |
| 21:15.56 | one_2_one | nsadmin, dont know buts in a forum of same topic linux in ps2 |
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| 21:16.20 | valdyn | KomiaPoika: xrandr lists that mode? |
| 21:16.28 | deego | KomiaPoika: lenny upgrade? I had a similar problem for my special monitor - I cut and pasted the screen section from my pre-lenny config |
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| 21:16.51 | deego | into the xorg.conf file |
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| 21:17.11 | eptalon | heyas |
| 21:17.48 | eptalon | how do i play an UDF disk image in debian sid? |
| 21:18.49 | valdyn | eptalon: play? |
| 21:18.53 | valdyn | eptalon: udf is a filesystem |
| 21:19.06 | one_2_one | uhm maybe the problem is because im connected by ssh and halting by ssh... |
| 21:19.18 | valdyn | one_2_one: geez |
| 21:19.24 | valdyn | one_2_one: sure it is |
| 21:19.41 | valdyn | one_2_one: "nohup sudo shutdown now &" |
| 21:20.12 | one_2_one | thks |
| 21:20.15 | one_2_one | gonna check |
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| 21:20.49 | nsadmin | you mean the problem was the observer affected the observed?? |
| 21:21.26 | one_2_one | i think so |
| 21:21.46 | valdyn | the script hung because the echo could not continue because network was down |
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| 21:22.02 | nsadmin | gotcha |
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| 21:22.43 | nsadmin | and I remember he said he was in by ssh near the beginning of him describing this |
| 21:22.52 | nsadmin | shoulda caught that |
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| 21:23.47 | KomiaPoika | deego: no, fresh install |
| 21:23.49 | muxomor | Hallo, i got a question about psad - is it ever possible to specifyinternal mail - root@localhost, as it was by default, but error is "Could not find mail, edit /etc/psad/psad.conf at /usr/sbin/psad line 9467. |
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| 21:23.55 | KomiaPoika | valdyn: i'll check that soon |
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| 21:25.46 | muxomor | http://paste.org/index.php?id=5440 .- here is my section of psad.conf, would be greatful for help |
| 21:25.47 | xjkx | [off] I am writing an article. whats the best name I could give to a user which isn't root ? like, a normal user ? that makes root not normal ? heh, some suggestions please |
| 21:26.11 | enouf | epsilon: modprobe udf? |
| 21:26.28 | thesnark | What makes debian your distro of choice? I'm having a hard time differentiating it between Ubuntu. Please don't shoot me |
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| 21:26.33 | abrotman | xjkx: system leech! .. system user |
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| 21:26.37 | toxygen | hi |
| 21:26.37 | jamon | xjkx: everyone is a user, root is a special case |
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| 21:26.41 | abrotman | thesnark: we like ubuntu .. |
| 21:26.53 | epsilon | enouf: wut? |
| 21:26.54 | thesnark | ok well what makes debian your distro of choice? |
| 21:26.55 | toxygen | this is gonna be weird request, but i'm trying to boot netinst over bootp from mac os x 10.4 |
| 21:26.55 | enouf | !heretic abrotman |
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| 21:26.59 | abrotman | hehe |
| 21:27.00 | toxygen | can someone help me with that? |
| 21:27.00 | enouf | epsilon: who? |
| 21:27.17 | enouf | epsilon: oh sorry, i meant eptalon (gone) |
| 21:27.25 | abrotman | thesnark: it dependson your needs .. ii've been using debian for uhm a long time :) |
| 21:27.37 | muxomor | xjkx: mnormal user - meprised slave of uncle root |
| 21:28.07 | KomiaPoika | deego: i'll try this after reinstall: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=590665 |
| 21:28.11 | thesnark | Is there any reason at all I should use debian over ubuntu? I only see advantages to Ubuntu as it's support community is gigantic |
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| 21:28.19 | xjkx | hehehe |
| 21:28.22 | xjkx | abrotman: thanks |
| 21:28.24 | thesnark | is currently using Debian |
| 21:28.42 | avtobiff | thesnark, as is debian's |
| 21:28.48 | maligor | ubuntu ships lots of half-raw software as default |
| 21:28.49 | bahadunn | thesnark: for what purpose? |
| 21:28.52 | jamon | thesnark: well are you having a particular problem with debian now? |
| 21:29.07 | thesnark | jamon yeah, python isn't up to date and that's giving me a lot of problems |
| 21:29.08 | one_2_one | <nsadmin> that nohup didnt make effect lol, gonna chek one more time... its making the annoying verification in disk at boot |
| 21:29.12 | bolt | is there a quick way to kill every program using a file under, say, /dev/cdrom, so I can unmount it quickly if I need to? |
| 21:29.15 | avtobiff | thesnark, but you'll probably get biased responses here. try #linux :) |
| 21:29.24 | streuner_ | dont feed |
| 21:29.58 | enouf | thesnark: believe it or not, due to it's very nature, revisions to ubuntu have no way of ever making into the kernel (upstream) as easily nor as much as debians |
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| 21:30.18 | avtobiff | bolt, does lsof /dev/cdrom help? |
| 21:30.22 | jamon | thesnark: really? i have 2.5 in lenny and can apt-get python3, what's out of date about that? |
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| 21:30.59 | bolt | avtobiff: tells me what to kill, but i want to kill everything automatically. just wondering if i'd need to make a script or if there is something that can do it for me |
| 21:31.01 | thesnark | jamon well I still have etch but I've had this problem since before lenny was released...I couldn't get django working for the life of me |
| 21:31.09 | enouf | thesnark: which means; less of a way for it's users/community to give back and help perpetuate this FOSS dev we all have come to love |
| 21:31.10 | avtobiff | jamon, where is python3? |
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| 21:31.11 | thesnark | jamon and I only used the package manager |
| 21:31.13 | bahadunn | thesnark: django? |
| 21:31.15 | Heavy-D | Can anybody explain to me how I go about changing password expiry for my Debian server? I is confuzzled. |
| 21:31.16 | bahadunn | thesnark: why not? |
| 21:31.28 | avtobiff | bolt, so parse the output from lsof with awk and then feed it to kill :) |
| 21:31.38 | bahadunn | thesnark: django should run in lenny without issue. I have been running it in lenny for some time |
| 21:31.41 | thesnark | bahadunn the errors would be different every time until I got one that made no sense at all - said a file wasn't there when it actually was |
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| 21:31.45 | bahadunn | thesnark: never in etch have I run it though |
| 21:31.45 | avtobiff | bolt, do you follow? now go experiment :) |
| 21:31.54 | KomiaPoika | this also could help me http://wiki.linux-club.de/opensuse/Xorg_conf_Toshiba_Tecra_8200_mit_Trident_CyberBlade/XP_Onboardgrafikchip_unter_openSUSE_10_2 |
| 21:31.56 | enouf | bolt: see if eject /dev/cdrom does it nicely |
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| 21:33.48 | lockd | I have a chroot set up for 32-bit apps, but I can't seem to start X apps |
| 21:34.03 | lockd | xterm Xt error: Can't open display: |
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| 21:34.22 | nsadmin | so the display isn't set |
| 21:34.32 | enouf | echo $DISPLAY says? |
| 21:34.32 | TimRiker | abrotman: that initrd script worked. thx. having other issues now, etch finds the nics in reverse order from lenny, so I'm undoing those assumptions in our site management code. |
| 21:34.45 | lockd | err, forgot to set it this time: xterm Xt error: Can't open display: :0 |
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| 21:35.04 | enouf | TimRiker: /msg dpkg 70 (perhaps) |
| 21:35.11 | abrotman | TimRiker: ouch .. send a thanks to dannf |
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| 21:35.21 | lockd | nsadmin: if display is set to the display outside the chroot, just can't open :0 |
| 21:35.23 | TimRiker | abrotman: will do. |
| 21:35.32 | toha | ciao a tutti |
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| 21:35.47 | enouf | toha: aloha - /msg dpkg it |
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| 21:36.14 | TimRiker | enouf: this is during debian-installer. there's no method I know of to edit udev rules before you install. |
| 21:36.16 | ndf | wtf is iceweezl and why can't i have ffox dweebs! |
| 21:36.29 | craigevil | !why iceweasel |
| 21:36.29 | dpkg | Due to Mozilla logos licensing, Mozilla software isn't DFSG-free, so Debian distributes Mozilla software with different logos. One day Mozilla Corporation decided to revoke the agreement to let Debian use Mozilla trademarks, so Debian changed to non-trademarked product names. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation_software_rebranded_in_Debian for more information. Ask me about <dfsg>. |
| 21:36.30 | nsadmin | !firefox |
| 21:36.30 | dpkg | well, firefox is replaced by iceweasel in Debian. Ask me about <iceweasel>, <why iceweasel>. |
| 21:36.42 | lockd | nsadmin: oh, and I also disabled access control with xhost + |
| 21:36.44 | ndf | why iceweasel |
| 21:36.48 | ndf | <why iceweasel> |
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| 21:36.53 | ndf | what |
| 21:36.54 | ndf | . |
| 21:36.56 | nsadmin | it's already up there |
| 21:37.09 | nsadmin | craigevil did it |
| 21:37.19 | craigevil | its the same thing Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.6) Gecko/2009020409 Firefox/3.0.6 (Debian-3.0.6-1) |
| 21:38.05 | vader-- | ok i got the kernel on this box upgraded from 2.4 to 2.6 |
| 21:38.06 | ndf | so why did ffox revoke the rights for debian to come with ffox? |
| 21:38.09 | ndf | ubuntu comes with it |
| 21:38.12 | vader-- | it was a sarge box |
| 21:38.21 | vader-- | i didn't do an aptitude dist-upgrade |
| 21:38.29 | enouf | TimRiker: oh, i hadn't realized - but, there is the /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf which has a line for Device: ethX |
| 21:38.29 | vader-- | last time i tried it screwed up apachae and exim4 |
| 21:38.45 | nsadmin | ndf: you'd have to ask them why they did it |
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| 21:39.16 | nsadmin | as far as why debian renamed, it's because netscape.com asked |
| 21:39.33 | enouf | TimRiker: and believe it or not, there is some udev magic within the initrd, so, it could be customized, i gather |
| 21:39.44 | ndf | ok |
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| 21:39.55 | bahadunn | firefox is not in debian? |
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| 21:40.03 | bahadunn | iceweasel man |
| 21:40.10 | lockd | nsadmin: so, is there any possible way to fix it? not being able to run X apps is a dealbreaker |
| 21:40.12 | bahadunn | iceweasel == firefox |
| 21:40.14 | icebrain | he's gone |
| 21:40.42 | enouf | !customer |
| 21:40.42 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building |
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| 21:40.53 | one_2_one | lol |
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| 21:41.06 | nsadmin | lockd: perhaps if you ran both in virtualization with a network bridge between |
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| 21:41.24 | lockd | nsadmin: eh? |
| 21:41.52 | nsadmin | both the booted os and the chroot |
| 21:41.53 | lockd | nsadmin: is there a way to do it in a chroot, or is it now so locked down that's nearly impossible? |
| 21:42.08 | lockd | nsadmin: I'm going to rebuild the kernel without SELinux garbage |
| 21:42.11 | nsadmin | I suppose that's the nature of a chroot |
| 21:42.39 | enouf | selinux isn't your issue |
| 21:42.58 | teratoma | running 64bit on your desktop is sometimes not fun |
| 21:42.59 | TimRiker | there's still a kernel command line option to shut off selinux, no? |
| 21:43.00 | lockd | okay, well I'm pretty sure it's X refusing the connection, but how can I check? |
| 21:43.22 | gynterk | why I can't use NumberOfPasswordPrompts and ConnectionAttempts in sshd config? |
| 21:43.23 | lockd | the X server is 64 bit. I refuse to run the chrooted X |
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| 21:43.31 | enouf | lockd: once you've chroot'd what have you mounted? were you following any guide to set this all up? |
| 21:44.11 | enouf | lockd: you have ia32-libs installed? it's all x86 code man |
| 21:44.16 | teratoma | gynterk: those are ssh client things. not server |
| 21:44.18 | lockd | enouf: /proc, /sys, and /dev, and yes |
| 21:44.35 | lockd | enouf: the chroot would FAIL without ia32-libs |
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| 21:44.53 | gynterk | hmm indeed |
| 21:44.58 | enouf | well .. it depends WHICH chroot |
| 21:45.17 | lockd | dchroot, but I've tried them all |
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| 21:45.45 | enouf | no no .. i mean you certainly can chroot without it being a 32bit only one |
| 21:45.57 | lockd | well, /bin/bash is 32-bit |
| 21:45.58 | yeretik | How can i install debian from ISO image without CD/DVD writer o network possibilities? Let's say that i have the ISO image on mi HDD by default |
| 21:46.03 | asdfqwer | isn't there an option to boot w/o X? |
| 21:46.09 | asdfqwer | i swear there was |
| 21:46.20 | enouf | lockd: really? exit your chroot and do this; file /bin/bash |
| 21:46.28 | nsadmin | lockd: why is the chroot needed? what are you trying to accomplish? |
| 21:46.39 | [twisti] | yeretik: there is a windows based installer that needs neither network nor cd/dvd |
| 21:46.47 | asdfqwer | i just fubard my x.conf =-/ |
| 21:46.53 | [twisti] | i cant recall the name right now but maybe google for that |
| 21:46.56 | lockd | nsadmin: installing actual 32-bit packages, dependencies that I'd rather not manage myself |
| 21:47.23 | lockd | enouf: and, that's 64-bit. |
| 21:47.30 | nsadmin | ok, why is the 64 bit necessary? |
| 21:47.46 | lockd | there is no 64-bit within the chroot |
| 21:47.57 | asdfqwer | ubuntu forums say remove gdm... |
| 21:47.58 | nsadmin | but there is outside it, yes? |
| 21:48.01 | lockd | yes |
| 21:48.43 | antii | I have installed phpsysinfo in my apache using debian lenny but when i go into http://domain.com/phpsysinfo it ask me to download a file, why? |
| 21:48.44 | nsadmin | so my question is, why is any 64 bit anything necessary? |
| 21:48.45 | lockd | the issue is that not a single x11 app is working from within. I'm just trying to find out an explanation |
| 21:48.48 | asdfqwer | ah, i found my solution |
| 21:48.50 | asdfqwer | thanks debian |
| 21:48.57 | lockd | nsadmin: because I have maybe one 32-bit app |
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| 21:49.23 | lockd | I'm not going to cripple my system because I can't configure X11 properly |
| 21:49.31 | asdfqwer | i did |
| 21:49.47 | nsadmin | ok, so if I read what you haven't said, I'm surmising that you prefer 64 bit for most of what you do |
| 21:49.52 | lockd | yes |
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| 21:49.56 | asdfqwer | i tried etch on compiz with an ati card on nvidia driver |
| 21:50.06 | lockd | including, but not limited to, my X server |
| 21:50.13 | antii | anyone? |
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| 21:50.24 | nsadmin | for performance reasons? |
| 21:50.28 | abrotman | antii: did you install libapache2-mod-php5 ? |
| 21:50.30 | asdfqwer | sounds like a php question. |
| 21:50.35 | lockd | well that, and now for compatibility reasons |
| 21:50.41 | antii | abrotman: lol now it worked for some reason |
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| 21:51.06 | nsadmin | oh, compatibility with what? (that sounds like a requirement and not a preference) |
| 21:51.14 | asdfqwer | is glx supported for etch? |
| 21:51.22 | enouf | lockd: have you tried something like this? https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html#id292205 |
| 21:51.52 | lockd | oh, I need tmp mounted? |
| 21:52.05 | nsadmin | and maybe /proc |
| 21:52.14 | asdfqwer | nsadmin, think of 64 bit as more bandwidth for your processor |
| 21:52.24 | lockd | proc is |
| 21:52.33 | lockd | ls |
| 21:52.36 | lockd | oops |
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| 21:53.25 | enouf | lockd: have you installed X within your chroot? have your done export DISPLAY=:0.0 ? |
| 21:53.31 | nsadmin | well I understand... but -maybe- that bandwidth isn't actually necessary... but maybe he's requiring that something be compatible with something else but so far I'm not sure what that part is |
| 21:53.41 | teratoma | antii: your web server is not processing php scripts properly |
| 21:53.49 | teratoma | antii: your mimetypes are wrong |
| 21:54.02 | teratoma | oh nevermind someoen answered |
| 21:54.06 | lockd | enouf: I mentioned that not only did I do that, but I used xhost + |
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| 21:54.11 | abrotman | teratoma: or that wasn't it at all :) |
| 21:54.17 | mespejel | hello anyone using vmware fusion? |
| 21:54.34 | nsadmin | let me guess... you are? |
| 21:54.37 | enouf | lockd: how are you launching X ? |
| 21:54.55 | one_2_one | <mespejel> only virtualbox fussiiiion |
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| 21:55.48 | lockd | enouf: through gdm, and I solved the issue. X uses tmp to communicate |
| 21:56.06 | enouf | lockd: do you have a /var setup within your chroot?, ofcourse it does, and /var for PID |
| 21:56.07 | lockd | enouf: but there's still another issue, and that's I can't mount /dev, and binding is not enough |
| 21:56.18 | enouf | sure you can |
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| 21:56.45 | lockd | enouf: yeah and that guide left out var. that's why I can't actually trust the guides :P |
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| 21:56.55 | enouf | besides, you said you already mounted /dev within |
| 21:57.11 | paulfitzpatrick | I have 5 ips on my debian etch server, I want to use some as proxies through a web browser, what software do I need? |
| 21:57.27 | lockd | I bound /dev -> /var/chroot32 |
| 21:57.29 | Python1320 | How could I renice a program within the process list with a specific name? |
| 21:57.34 | abrotman | paulfitzpatrick: squid probably |
| 21:57.45 | enouf | lockd: no, bind it to /var/chroot32/dev |
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| 21:58.04 | enouf | w00h00 - we got more snow! |
| 21:58.31 | paulfitzpatrick | will squid let me browse other sites via proxy and a web browser? or I have to use it in combination with something else? |
| 21:58.48 | lockd | enouf: sorry, that's what I meant. Now it's complaining about /dev/pts being broken |
| 21:59.13 | enouf | yeah, those are your xterms and such .. |
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| 21:59.54 | enouf | funny thing is; whenever i chroot into my other full debian installation, shit just works |
| 22:00.14 | lockd | it was just the mounting that I needed to set up properly, thanks |
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| 22:00.26 | abrotman | paulfitzpatrick: apt-cache show squid |
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| 22:00.48 | paulfitzpatrick | thx, I check it out :) |
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| 22:01.46 | stuckey_ | Trying to unrar a file with the command "unrar -x *.rar", which I expect to unrar a file but it just says "failed". |
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| 22:02.02 | nsadmin | lockd so it's all working now? |
| 22:02.04 | enouf | stuckey_: wrong unrar version? |
| 22:02.18 | enouf | !unrar |
| 22:02.18 | dpkg | i heard unrar is a <non-free> package and a command used to extract .rar archives, or ask me about <unrar-free> |
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| 22:02.44 | lockd | nsadmin: yes |
| 22:02.47 | asdfqwer | anyone know some clever options for booting kernel? |
| 22:02.55 | nsadmin | great :) glad it worked out |
| 22:03.04 | asdfqwer | i have no stdin |
| 22:03.04 | asdfqwer | :( |
| 22:03.04 | stuckey_ | enouf: it's what's in stable... |
| 22:03.14 | lockd | I also had some minor issue due to lo not even getting brought up |
| 22:03.14 | yeretik | twisti, I found a solution: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ |
| 22:03.18 | stuckey_ | !unrar-free |
| 22:03.18 | dpkg | well, unrar-free is an unarchiver for .rar files that can't handle archives in the RAR 3.0 format, which is by far the most used RAR format (ask me about <unrar> for 3.0). |
| 22:03.29 | stuckey_ | shit |
| 22:03.35 | lockd | unetbootin does NOT work well with Debian at all |
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| 22:05.28 | asdfqwer | what is a good value for vga= if my stdin hangs upon starting X |
| 22:05.41 | enouf | 791 is standarf |
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| 22:05.47 | enouf | wait |
| 22:05.58 | enouf | that doesn't affect X |
| 22:06.02 | asdfqwer | hrm |
| 22:06.06 | enouf | wtf? |
| 22:06.29 | asdfqwer | i have one of those logitech keyboards |
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| 22:06.39 | asdfqwer | with 18 extra keys |
| 22:06.43 | Nicola_Greco | i've a problem with libuuid |
| 22:06.44 | jelly-home | asdfqwer: your... stdin? |
| 22:06.49 | Nicola_Greco | some one can helpme? |
| 22:07.01 | enouf | my 15$ one has 19 extra keys |
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| 22:07.08 | enouf | i use 1 of them :-P |
| 22:07.24 | asdfqwer | all of my keys were reassigned |
| 22:07.34 | asdfqwer | but they do follow a pattern |
| 22:07.36 | antii | how do i edit so i get a default theme in phpsysinfo |
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| 22:07.39 | Nicola_Greco | someone can help me ? http://pastebin.com/m6fae69da |
| 22:07.41 | enouf | only 1 of them seems to be mapped properly :-p |
| 22:07.50 | asdfqwer | numlock is enter |
| 22:07.57 | nsadmin | Nicola_Greco: try to get everyone to understand what your situation is |
| 22:08.15 | Nicola_Greco | i don't know why the libuuid1 |
| 22:08.21 | Nicola_Greco | returns me the error |
| 22:08.24 | Nicola_Greco | with groupadd |
| 22:08.30 | Nicola_Greco | whn i try to install it |
| 22:08.38 | jelly-home | Nicola_Greco: it's not a problem with libuuid1, it's a problem with "groupadd" command called in there |
| 22:08.39 | nsadmin | you are likely installing a package not meant for your version of debian |
| 22:08.48 | jelly-home | Nicola_Greco: which debian release? |
| 22:08.51 | Nicola_Greco | stable |
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| 22:09.05 | enouf | antii: edit what? if nobody here chimes in, try ##linux too , and you don't have to leave here to go there |
| 22:09.07 | Nicola_Greco | this package is in my repo :S |
| 22:09.15 | jelly-home | Nicola_Greco: are you aware stable has changed from etch to lenny over weekend? |
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| 22:09.25 | antii | enouf: know ;P |
| 22:09.31 | Nicola_Greco | what? |
| 22:09.33 | antii | enouf: i wanna edit the theme in phpsysinfo so its default |
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| 22:09.54 | enouf | antii: i personally have no idea ... but ok |
| 22:09.58 | Nicola_Greco | jelly-home: what do i've to do ? |
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| 22:10.44 | jelly-home | Nicola_Greco: either upgrade, /msg dpkg etch->lenny, or fix your sources.list to point to etch if you haven't installed anything else yet (since this Saturday) |
| 22:10.49 | asdfqwer | jesus i can't even boot to console |
| 22:11.02 | enouf | er judd is in the shop for a tuneup? |
| 22:11.12 | Nicola_Greco | asd |
| 22:11.13 | rgr | sorry, dodgy net here. How to I determine which network interface is in use from the command line. |
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| 22:11.33 | dkr | ifconfig |
| 22:11.34 | Nicola_Greco | what do you mean for fix my sources? |
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| 22:11.56 | one_2_one | bye an thks |
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| 22:12.26 | mespejel | one_2_one: hey sorry, i was doing something else, sorry i already resolve my problem.. and virtualbox is cool i try it before |
| 22:12.27 | nsadmin | Nicola_Greco if they say "stable", things will move severely if you have not upgraded... do you want to upgrade to lenny? or stay with etch? |
| 22:12.41 | mespejel | one_2_one: but now my host is leopard so im using fusion |
| 22:12.47 | Nicola_Greco | :S which on is better? |
| 22:12.58 | asdfqwer | aha, vga=ask |
| 22:12.58 | nsadmin | no idea :) |
| 22:13.18 | Nicola_Greco | have i to do sudo apt-get upgrade? |
| 22:13.36 | mespejel | i would do apt-get update first then apt-get upgrade after that |
| 22:13.43 | jelly-home | Nicola_Greco: is this a production machine? |
| 22:13.43 | nsadmin | if you do that, you will move to the NEW stable |
| 22:13.44 | one_2_one | mespejel ok =) osx is nice |
| 22:13.53 | Nicola_Greco | jelly-home: server machine |
| 22:14.03 | nsadmin | serves who? how many? |
| 22:14.12 | nsadmin | for work? for you? |
| 22:14.17 | Nicola_Greco | it runs 7 web site |
| 22:14.20 | one_2_one | gentoo as well too |
| 22:14.22 | Nicola_Greco | for "work" |
| 22:14.24 | mespejel | one_2_one: yes but believe it or not.. debian with e17 is runs smoother than osx and its looks almost as pretty lol |
| 22:14.24 | jelly-home | Nicola_Greco: upgrading at this point might break things. So plan for downtime. |
| 22:14.25 | enouf | Does anybody see anything funny with this cat /proc/net/dev output http://rafb.net/p/uQti2E21.html I've never seen anything like that before - especially on my box |
| 22:14.33 | nsadmin | ok, maybe you don't want to upgrade now. |
| 22:14.44 | mespejel | one_2_one: e17 is perfect for virtual machines but sadly there is no stable version yet |
| 22:14.47 | jelly-home | Nicola_Greco: before doing anything, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file. |
| 22:14.51 | Nicola_Greco | yes nsadmin but i've apt-get broken :S |
| 22:14.51 | enouf | i was trying my "watch tail /proc/net/dev" command and noticed - so i cat'd it |
| 22:15.13 | nsadmin | you keep backups, right? |
| 22:15.24 | enouf | wtf are all those "nr0" and "roseX" ones? |
| 22:15.24 | Nicola_Greco | i don't want only libuuid |
| 22:15.28 | one_2_one | <mespejel> preaty doesnt mean very much.... usability, inovation, etc does |
| 22:15.30 | Nicola_Greco | can i downgrade that one? |
| 22:15.38 | jelly-home | Nicola_Greco: have you installed or upgraded anything else since this weekend? |
| 22:15.39 | HockeyInJune | Is something wrong with ftp.us.debian.org ? Because ftp.debian.org works. |
| 22:15.51 | Nicola_Greco | mmm maybe svn stuffs |
| 22:15.56 | nsadmin | I'd recommend removing anythhing you installed after say sunday |
| 22:16.16 | jelly-home | Nicola_Greco: using apt-get? |
| 22:16.19 | Nicola_Greco | yes |
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| 22:16.39 | Nicola_Greco | nsadmin: so what do i've to do now to install a package form apt ? |
| 22:16.42 | enouf | welll .. it's not mplayer - streaming radio related |
| 22:16.43 | nsadmin | and keeping track of everything you remove |
| 22:16.46 | enouf | :-/ |
| 22:17.03 | nsadmin | I'd recommend removing anythhing you installed after say sunday |
| 22:17.05 | jelly-home | Nicola_Greco: then also pastebin /var/log/dpkg.log |
| 22:17.07 | enouf | maybe it's there because i chroot'd and ran ifconfig after mounting /proc ? |
| 22:17.10 | mespejel | one_2_one: yes, but im a picky guy lol.. anyway mac have the great advantage that code for just one type of hardware, and build their own.. thats why is so efficient and usability.. the mighty mouse options are sick |
| 22:17.15 | jelly-home | nsadmin: removing blindly = bad. |
| 22:17.46 | nsadmin | Nicola_Greco: you keep copies of your partitions so you can restore them? |
| 22:17.48 | cheekee | Oh! I did an upgrade today and found out to my surprise that I had actually installed Debian 5.0.0 |
| 22:17.57 | Nicola_Greco | no i'm on a vps |
| 22:17.59 | Nicola_Greco | right now |
| 22:18.07 | enouf | omg! |
| 22:18.08 | enouf | ~$ ls /sys/class/net |
| 22:18.09 | enouf | eth0 lo nr0 nr1 nr2 nr3 rose0 rose1 rose2 rose3 rose4 rose5 rose6 rose7 rose8 rose9 |
| 22:18.11 | nsadmin | you don't keep backups?? |
| 22:18.12 | enouf | wtf? |
| 22:18.18 | cheekee | by mistake |
| 22:18.19 | jelly-home | enouf: are they red? |
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| 22:18.32 | Nicola_Greco | nsadmin: only mysql and home backup |
| 22:18.35 | rgr | My b****** ISP has sent me a new modem/router. It does not appear to have a dyndns setting on it. How can I get my server to find out the external IP address of the router and then broadcast it to the dyndns service? |
| 22:18.45 | one_2_one | <mespejel> yes that mouse sucks and too little ram by default |
| 22:18.59 | nsadmin | that could be unfortunate... but, what does this say: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 22:19.09 | cheekee | now my keyboard isgoingcrazzy |
| 22:19.18 | d-b | rgr: apt-get install ddclient |
| 22:19.38 | nsadmin | if this is for work, your failure to keep appropriate backups is going to make you look bad |
| 22:19.43 | rgr | d-b: that broadcasts the lan ip of ther server e.g 192.168.0.101 |
| 22:19.58 | rgr | It needs to find out the external ip of the router. |
| 22:20.02 | stuckey | Does anyone know what to do with rar files aside from using the non-free program to extract them? |
| 22:20.14 | enouf | jelly-home: how could the NSA have gotten in so easily? |
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| 22:20.24 | Nicola_Greco | :S |
| 22:20.25 | icebrain | stuckey: 7z can open then, afaik |
| 22:20.36 | stuckey | icebrain: it's an .avi file... |
| 22:20.38 | Nicola_Greco | admin@server:~/admin_backups$ cat /etc/debian_version |
| 22:20.39 | Nicola_Greco | 4.0 |
| 22:20.52 | stuckey | icebrain: I don't see 7z in the repository... what's that? |
| 22:20.59 | nsadmin | Nicola_Greco: ok, now pastebin your sources.list |
| 22:20.59 | d-b | rgr: wrong |
| 22:21.02 | enouf | stuckey: wtf are you using .rar for when you're comncerned about FOSS ? |
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| 22:21.12 | d-b | you have another option -> web instead of eth |
| 22:21.24 | Nicola_Greco | nsadmin: |
| 22:21.25 | Nicola_Greco | eb http://ftp.freenet.de/debian stable main contrib non-free |
| 22:21.27 | Nicola_Greco | deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free |
| 22:21.29 | jelly-home | enouf: FOSS but warez avis, duh! |
| 22:21.30 | nsadmin | by "work" do you mean you have a boss you report to? |
| 22:21.31 | Nicola_Greco | only this two |
| 22:21.33 | d-b | rgr: man ddclient |
| 22:21.39 | stuckey | enouf: what jelly-home said. |
| 22:21.41 | nsadmin | replace "stable" with "etch" |
| 22:21.41 | jelly-home | !tell Nicola_Greco -about paste |
| 22:21.43 | Nicola_Greco | nsadmin: i'm the boss |
| 22:21.43 | cheekee | I hoooope you gggguys have a fffffix soon for my craaaaazzy keyyyyyyboard |
| 22:21.45 | d-b | http://ddclient.wiki.sourceforge.net/ |
| 22:21.46 | enouf | ... |
| 22:21.48 | stuckey | enouf: but you're right... I'm just going to delete it. |
| 22:21.56 | jelly-home | Nicola_Greco: use a pastebin site. |
| 22:21.58 | icebrain | stuckey: it's a lgpl archiver, but the unrar contains proprietary code, it seems, so forget it |
| 22:22.07 | nsadmin | Nicola_Greco: don't tell yourself you did this!! |
| 22:22.09 | Nicola_Greco | ok sry |
| 22:22.15 | Arrowmaster | stuckey: p7zip |
| 22:22.24 | Nicola_Greco | nsadmin: is that dangerous? |
| 22:22.34 | rgr | d-b: maybe was ttoo hasty in my annoyance. thanks. will recheck. |
| 22:22.36 | jelly-home | Nicola_Greco: and please pastebin everything you were asked for. |
| 22:22.44 | nsadmin | is which dangerous? |
| 22:23.00 | Nicola_Greco | nsadmin: replacing stabvle with etch |
| 22:23.12 | nsadmin | it should be safer |
| 22:23.19 | jelly-home | Nicola_Greco: no, leaving stable is dangerous, and you've stumbled onto it. |
| 22:23.23 | nsadmin | because stable is not 4.0 any more |
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| 22:23.37 | stuckey | Does anyone know why poeple split movies into a bunch of little rar files? |
| 22:23.40 | Nicola_Greco | ok which one is 4.0 right now? |
| 22:23.48 | nsadmin | etch |
| 22:23.55 | stuckey | Arrowmaster: p7zip doesn't support rar. |
| 22:23.56 | Arrowmaster | stuckey: or more specifically it seems p7zip-full and p7zip-rar |
| 22:24.01 | icebrain | stuckey: to enable easier file transfers over bittorrent? |
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| 22:24.05 | jelly-home | !etch |
| 22:24.05 | dpkg | i guess etch is the code name for the previous stable Debian release, version 4.0, released on April 8th, 2007. Etch security support will continue until about February 2010; now is the time to start planning your upgrade to Lenny, ask me about <etch->lenny>. Etch release notes and upgrade instructions: http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/releasenotes Also ask me about <oldstable> and <oldstable security>. Currently <4.0r7>. |
| 22:24.13 | stuckey | icebrain: You can transver .avi files over bittorrent. |
| 22:24.21 | icebrain | Arrowmaster: isn't p7zip-rar unfree? |
| 22:24.51 | stuckey | icebrain: But why does everyone use .rar archives? It doesn't make any sense... |
| 22:24.59 | asdfqwer | could i potentially run a command as root from grub's boot menu by opening a new line and entering my command? |
| 22:25.02 | Arrowmaster | its in non-free |
| 22:25.05 | Nicola_Greco | thanks |
| 22:25.13 | Nicola_Greco | nsadmin: so if i change my repos |
| 22:25.13 | nsadmin | Nicola_Greco mainly, you want to -choose- when to upgrade |
| 22:25.15 | icebrain | stuckey: rar as good compression levels, for a Windows utility |
| 22:25.24 | Nicola_Greco | and i update |
| 22:25.24 | icebrain | stuckey: way better than zip |
| 22:25.34 | Nicola_Greco | and i installa new deb |
| 22:25.34 | jelly-home | stuckey: those people don't care about copyright... why do you think they'd care about licensing issues? |
| 22:25.37 | Nicola_Greco | it will work? |
| 22:25.45 | Nicola_Greco | or it will breake all deps? |
| 22:25.49 | Nicola_Greco | i've to go now |
| 22:25.50 | cheekee | its a logitech laser keyboard by the way |
| 22:25.50 | Nicola_Greco | thanks |
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| 22:26.12 | stuckey | icebrain: well it's usually avi's that they're putting in there... so it isn't about compression, right? |
| 22:26.16 | nsadmin | actually it should still be broken, but you would have to remove and/or replace the debs from 5.0 |
| 22:26.17 | jelly-home | Nicola_Greco: using "etch" will make it use old repos. Keeping stable WILL break your system. |
| 22:26.24 | maligor | stuckey, heh, that's quite offtopic but I imagine it's a relic from bbs times |
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| 22:26.33 | martyn-dev | Hi every 1 |
| 22:26.50 | icebrain | stuckey: maybe for sharing over rapidshare? |
| 22:27.02 | martyn-dev | i need a web based administration tool for cron .. |
| 22:27.04 | martyn-dev | do know some ? |
| 22:27.07 | martyn-dev | *you |
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| 22:27.24 | eightfold | is it possible to chose packages with debian-live-500-i386-gnome-desktop.iso |
| 22:27.28 | eightfold | i don't want openoffice |
| 22:27.33 | eightfold | installed |
| 22:28.16 | jelly-home | eightfold: you could install just the base system, and build from there. |
| 22:28.18 | nsadmin | Nicola_Greco: overall... setting your repos to etch is half of what you need to do... the other half is getting rid of and/or replacing packages meant for 5.0 |
| 22:28.41 | icebrain | stuckey: there's a free unrar, but it only supports rar2 |
| 22:28.59 | vicro | hola |
| 22:29.07 | vicro | alguna distro, que me recomienden para trabajar con oracle 10g full |
| 22:29.21 | stuckey | icebrain: how do I tell if something's rar 2 or 3? |
| 22:29.22 | eightfold | jelly-home: what image file would be suitable for that, the same image i mentioned above, debian-live-500-i386-standard.iso or debian-500-i386-netinst.iso? |
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| 22:29.40 | icebrain | stuckey: you try to extract it and see if unrar fails :P |
| 22:29.42 | enouf | jelly-home: you've never seen anything like this? http://rafb.net/p/Qq1k9X46.html ..or ? |
| 22:29.49 | stuckey | icebrain: it failed, I'm deleting the files. |
| 22:29.50 | martyn-dev | vicro: debian |
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| 22:30.09 | icebrain | stuckey: it's your choice |
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| 22:30.24 | jelly-home | eightfold: any first CD, even the gnome one will do if you've already downloaded it. |
| 22:30.49 | DeSian | anyone know how to use CTL complex text layout in Icedove? |
| 22:30.58 | eightfold | jelly-home: ah, in the case of multiple cds only the first one is really needed? |
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| 22:31.30 | jelly-home | eightfold: if you have a network connection, yes. |
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| 22:31.40 | eightfold | jelly-home: i do :) thank you |
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| 22:32.08 | jelly-home | eightfold: basically you can uset the netinst and install whatever you want from there. |
| 22:32.46 | eightfold | jelly-home: i'm dloading the netinst cd now |
| 22:32.59 | jelly-home | enouf: noone gave my Linux roses :-( |
| 22:33.24 | eightfold | i remember there being a menu in the installer where i could check what the install would be used for and desktop had a check box |
| 22:33.30 | nsadmin | martyn-dev: including yourself... for shame! |
| 22:33.35 | nsadmin | oops |
| 22:33.53 | martyn-dev | nsadmin: :| |
| 22:33.57 | nsadmin | martyn-dev : mistab |
| 22:34.01 | enouf | jelly-home: i'm thinking maybe it's possible there were created when i went here, and added a repo key, and d/l some software? http://mirror.ourdelta.org/deb/dists/etch/ourdelta/ |
| 22:34.02 | eightfold | but when i installed that the installer also installed openoffice. i suppose i have to untick the desktop choice in the installer and just install gnome later? |
| 22:34.08 | eightfold | to keep openoffice out |
| 22:34.43 | martyn-dev | nsadmin: mistab ? is a tool? |
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| 22:34.55 | enouf | jelly-home: i was helping someone test out a compile - but i added the key info, before i realized i didn't need it in order to just grab the tar.gz and .dsc |
| 22:35.08 | jelly-home | eightfold: that menu's called "tasksel" and would choose an initial set of packages depending on selected "tasks". You can even leave everything deselected, and that leaves you up with a base system. |
| 22:35.09 | nsadmin | no, I addressed you by mistake; the message was meant for another |
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| 22:35.26 | martyn-dev | nsadmin: ok ;) |
| 22:35.30 | eightfold | does anybody have any recommendations on educational debian material? i've dabbled around with linux very little before. but i've been running os x the last three years and i'm quite confident with the cli/freebsd underpinnings. |
| 22:35.38 | eightfold | dvds, books |
| 22:35.46 | jelly-home | eightfold: you can deinstall openoffice now; no need to reinstall. |
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| 22:36.06 | enouf | jelly-home: one last one with some possible info? http://rafb.net/p/I8fOE439.html |
| 22:36.07 | vicro | tienes algun sitio de un buen howto para la instalacion |
| 22:36.15 | avtobiff | !es |
| 22:36.15 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 22:36.17 | nsadmin | eightfold education in what area |
| 22:36.23 | enouf | jelly-home: /msg dpkg noone :-P |
| 22:36.36 | vicro | por que segun tengo entendido oracle esta certificado para redhat y suse |
| 22:36.37 | vicro | ?? |
| 22:36.52 | stuckey | !espanol |
| 22:36.53 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 22:36.57 | stuckey | !portugese |
| 22:36.57 | dpkg | Por favor use #debian-pt para ajuda em portugues ou #debian-br para ajuda em portugues do brasil. ( /join #debian-pt ) |
| 22:36.58 | nsadmin | noone is after elevene |
| 22:37.01 | jelly-home | vicro: english only channel |
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| 22:37.42 | eightfold | nsadmin: i want to become confident with the cli. i want to setup apache, ftp servers, perhaps php/mysql, write simple bash scripts, understand file system layout. get a hang of linux fo real, basically. |
| 22:37.45 | avtobiff | eightfold, the debian system is a good book i've heard debiansystem.info |
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| 22:38.20 | nsadmin | eightfold so basically unix/linux system administration |
| 22:38.25 | enouf | jelly-home: digging http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ax.25 |
| 22:38.39 | eightfold | nsadmin: yeah, i guess that's what they call it :) |
| 22:38.48 | jelly-home | enouf: I have no idea what that is. |
| 22:38.57 | dutchfish | !lpi |
| 22:39.00 | enouf | jelly-home: ok - thanks anyway |
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| 22:39.37 | nsadmin | you can explore your own dir tree to see where things are |
| 22:39.42 | keith4 | mert: do not /msg people |
| 22:39.43 | nsadmin | ls / to start with |
| 22:39.51 | jelly-home | !fhs |
| 22:39.51 | dpkg | Debian follows the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard. The filesystem is categorized by purpose, not application. This allows, for example, the easy and efficient deployment of a read-only /usr area across a number of thin clients. See http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ or install the 'debian-policy' package (/usr/share/doc/debian-policy/fhs/*), or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard |
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| 22:40.00 | webIRC_864417 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1WsL_iBBqk |
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| 22:41.13 | eightfold | nsadmin: yeah, i understand that. but compiling software, networking etc. system administration i guess. |
| 22:41.22 | eightfold | doesn't have to be debian specific i guess |
| 22:41.25 | vicro | hi, i need install oracle10g full in linux |
| 22:41.27 | eightfold | could be a good linux book |
| 22:41.30 | nsadmin | eightfold: do you know C? |
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| 22:42.07 | vicro | a book online or a howto please |
| 22:42.22 | eightfold | nsadmin: nope, the closest i've come to any programming is 14 years of experience in html/css. also written som simple bash scripts. |
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| 22:42.29 | eightfold | nsadmin: that's about it |
| 22:42.51 | nsadmin | vicro: maybe there are instructions how to set up oracle at openacs.org |
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| 22:43.45 | Maikoru | hi |
| 22:44.05 | eightfold | avtobiff: that book looks good |
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| 22:44.29 | Maikoru | Why are there rsync mirrors ? |
| 22:44.37 | eightfold | avtobiff: haven't been updated for a while though. debian sarge? i guess that won't matter on my level |
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| 22:44.57 | nsadmin | eightfold: the more you know about the shell, the better... install bash info pages and go thru them |
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| 22:45.49 | eightfold | now, off for install |
| 22:45.53 | eightfold | thank ya'll |
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| 22:47.11 | dutchfish | eightfold, if i where to start over i would have saved me a lot of trouble by starting with such a book: http://oreilly.com/catalog/9781565927483/ |
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| 22:47.37 | Maikoru | How can we use rsync mirors ? |
| 22:47.56 | enouf | jelly-home: it's starting to bother me a tad now, i can't (as root) rm -rd the dirs/ in ls /sys/class/net - operation not permitted .. and when i try to bring down each iface (ifconfig rose0 down) it returns without error, but ifconfig -a still shows it and so does ls /sys/class/net :-/ |
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| 22:48.21 | jelly-home | rm -rd the dirs/ in ls /sys/class/net -- wtf? |
| 22:48.36 | jelly-home | just rmmod the relevant driver(s) |
| 22:49.00 | enouf | jelly-home: you mean it's a kernel module that generates those ifaces? wtf? |
| 22:49.31 | enouf | i haven't modprobed anything lately - wtf? |
| 22:49.51 | jelly-home | enouf: just like all the other ifaces! Who'd have thought! |
| 22:50.18 | jelly-home | (well, with the exception of tun/tap and ppp) |
| 22:50.38 | enouf | jelly-home: er .. i can have an iface eth0 without it pertaining to any certain kernel module |
| 22:50.41 | dutchfish | ... almost a a new qotd |
| 22:50.49 | enouf | or .. can't i? |
| 22:50.49 | jelly-home | enouf: how? |
| 22:51.00 | enouf | ... |
| 22:51.39 | pl4yer0ne | jelly-home, magic? |
| 22:51.52 | enouf | jelly-home: OMG .. ax25 41156 2 rose,netrom |
| 22:52.18 | enouf | wtf put those there? wtf?! |
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| 22:52.42 | jelly-home | enouf: The MIB. |
| 22:53.48 | enouf | modprobe -r netrom ; modprobe -r rose wiped them all out - thanks |
| 22:54.05 | jelly-home | phew. |
| 22:54.15 | enouf | modprobe -r ax25 returned fatal in use prior |
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| 22:54.46 | avtobiff | eightfold, most infrastructure is probably the same |
| 22:55.04 | enouf | what stupid crackwhore modprobed all this shit? |
| 22:55.08 | enouf | appletalk |
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| 22:56.25 | enouf | wait - could building mysql-server have done it? |
| 22:56.46 | enouf | i never installed it, just dpkg-buildpackage -b it |
| 22:57.08 | jelly-home | I don't see why it would. |
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| 22:57.39 | enouf | well .. it was a 6.5 hour compile .. and i fell asleep halfway through it |
| 22:58.09 | enouf | is there anyway to check dates when certain modules were inserted? |
| 22:58.35 | jelly-home | maybe your head fell on the keys "modprobe crap<enter>" in that order. |
| 22:58.49 | enouf | good one :-P |
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| 22:59.05 | enouf | i was drinking a bit |
| 22:59.33 | dondelelcaro | enouf: dmesg timestamps will tell you |
| 22:59.44 | dondelelcaro | (assuming the module produced any output) |
| 22:59.49 | enouf | dondelelcaro: thanks - makes sense ... righto |
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| 23:00.35 | enouf | omg .. you won't believe this |
| 23:00.42 | enouf | you just won't |
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| 23:01.11 | enouf | does anyone recall me just mentioning my keyboard has 19 extra keys? |
| 23:01.16 | theodred | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:01.16 | theodred | when I do ssh -gnNT -L port:address:port user@host.tld |
| 23:01.16 | theodred | everything works if i take off the "g". |
| 23:01.16 | theodred | so when I do just -g |
| 23:01.16 | theodred | as in ssh -g -L port:address:port user@host.tld |
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| 23:01.33 | theodred | ... |
| 23:02.08 | enouf | well .. i all the time accidentally hit them - most of the time, they aren't mapped - but every now and then, i can hear that something happened and i hear the HDD thrash a bit |
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| 23:02.41 | enouf | and i have NO IDEA what the keys do - because the icons on them are so small and stupid ... |
| 23:02.55 | teratoma | what does 'g' in ssh do ? |
| 23:03.01 | hochron | maybe its a turbo button |
| 23:03.11 | jelly-home | teratoma: it makes you "man ssh"! |
| 23:03.21 | hochron | nm |
| 23:03.23 | enouf | anyways .. i think that's what did it all .. hitting Hot Keys that are mapped, yet mapped to what, who knows |
| 23:03.25 | enouf | thanks all |
| 23:04.40 | dutchfish | hands enouf an antique ibm click style keyboard |
| 23:04.49 | theodred | teratoma : ssh -g is supposed to "-g Allows remote hosts to connect to local forwarded ports." |
| 23:04.58 | teratoma | yeah yeah i read the manpage , sorry |
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| 23:05.32 | mischief6 | does anyone know what i can use for ESMTP and IMAPS? |
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| 23:06.20 | jelly-home | mischief6: what's the context for this question? |
| 23:06.21 | pl4yer0ne | mischief6, postfix and courier |
| 23:06.29 | pl4yer0ne | is what i use |
| 23:06.35 | Gigantic | hi, im looking for a gui way to manage my init... there was a gnome app |
| 23:06.42 | mischief6 | jelly, what do you mean context? |
| 23:07.03 | enouf | sad to say - maybe the pr0n0 dvd i threw in the other night did it ... sigh ... |
| 23:07.08 | jelly-home | mischief6: I mean why specify "ESMTP"? |
| 23:07.18 | mischief6 | TLS |
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| 23:07.34 | lepine_w | what would be the preferred way to get php4 onto a lenny installation> |
| 23:07.38 | Gigantic | oh nvm I just found a kde one |
| 23:07.44 | lepine_w | php4 through cgi |
| 23:07.46 | enouf | you know how those things ... try to install Sony root kits and shit :-P |
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| 23:09.05 | mischief6 | i'll look into postfix and courier, they both support TLS right? :) |
| 23:09.27 | jelly-home | mischief6: postfix or exim4 for a MTA; dovecot is a pop3 or imap service that's relatively easy to configure. |
| 23:09.41 | eightfold | is there a list of the software that is being installed when chosing ie "web server" or "desktop environment" during the installation? |
| 23:09.52 | eightfold | "file server" isn't very clear |
| 23:10.03 | lepine_w | eightfold: i don't think so |
| 23:10.08 | mischief6 | file server would be samba i think :x |
| 23:10.12 | lepine_w | you can assume samba, and perhaps nfs |
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| 23:10.30 | lepine_w | i always go with standalone, no matter what the machine's purpose will be |
| 23:10.46 | eightfold | lepine_w: ok, i'm not so confident, so i think i will install the desktop |
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| 23:10.55 | eightfold | lepine_w: as a fallback |
| 23:11.18 | lepine_w | desktop is the exception for me :) |
| 23:11.28 | jelly-home | eightfold: you can skip everything. desktop will install X and gnome. |
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| 23:12.03 | eightfold | if i'd like to install gnome and x aftewords to boot into a windowmanager |
| 23:12.10 | eightfold | is it cumbersome? |
| 23:12.27 | peyman_t | eightfold: sudo apt-get install gdm xorg gnome |
| 23:12.27 | mischief- | its not too hard to install x yourself |
| 23:12.32 | eightfold | or is it it as simple as using apt-get to install x and gnome? |
| 23:12.35 | jelly-home | eightfold: not really. |
| 23:12.42 | lepine_w | eightfold: , installing the desktop should will install gdm as well (the X based login thing) |
| 23:12.43 | eightfold | any configuration needed? |
| 23:12.48 | martyn-dev | Hi some has used phprecvevent ? |
| 23:12.52 | jelly-home | eightfold: yep. except "aptitude" instead of "apt-get", it's the next thing. |
| 23:12.59 | cheekee | love and peace everyone! And lets hope everyone is still in one piece after the recession, or almost everyone |
| 23:13.02 | lepine_w | eightfold: nothing you can't handle if your hardware isn't too weird |
| 23:13.04 | eightfold | jelly-home: ah, k |
| 23:13.20 | jelly-home | dpkg: tell eightfold -about install x |
| 23:13.23 | jelly-home | dpkg: tell eightfold -about install gnome |
| 23:13.50 | eightfold | and, what does "standard system" do? |
| 23:14.07 | jelly-home | has no idea |
| 23:14.08 | eightfold | that is needed for the os to run i guess? |
| 23:14.16 | peyman_t | eightfold: standard things! |
| 23:14.35 | eightfold | jelly-home: do you normally tick it during installation?:) |
| 23:14.38 | jelly-home | eightfold: no. You can really unset everything and still be left with a working system. |
| 23:14.47 | dondelelcaro | eightfold: the standard system just has things that you'd expect on a standard system |
| 23:15.14 | jelly-home | eightfold: that's what I start from; but then, I've been using this OS for some time. |
| 23:15.39 | eightfold | i went for desktop and standard system |
| 23:15.46 | dondelelcaro | eightfold: that's reasonable |
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| 23:15.51 | jelly-home | dondelelcaro: it would be nice to know the exact packages pulled in with each task, though. |
| 23:15.57 | eightfold | and we'll see how i'll manage |
| 23:16.38 | dustybin | RETURN WITHOUT GOSUB |
| 23:16.40 | dustybin | READY |
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| 23:18.03 | dondelelcaro | jelly-home: aptitude can show them to you; the standard system is a bit different though, because it includes things with Priority: standard and above |
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| 23:26.53 | Sebo | Hi! How can I check if last # apt-get instalation complited succesfully? I was updating my system through ssh but suddenly the PC where I hed the terminal crashed and I'm not sure if that upgrade was finished ;] |
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| 23:28.58 | simonrvn | if you had it running in screen it'll be ok |
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| 23:29.55 | enouf | dondelelcaro: i can use a command like this to show me all important|required|standard ; ~$ dpkg-query -W -f='${Priority} \t${Package} \t${Status} \n' | egrep -i 'standard|important|required' | sort -n | less but that's because they're all installed - is there a way for me to list them if they are not installed? (without using aptitude) |
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| 23:30.23 | Sebo | simonrvn: But I hadn't |
| 23:30.23 | enouf | (a way that you might know of, that is) |
| 23:30.31 | frostschutz | Sebo: run the upgrade again, it should tell you if it wasn't finished (e.g. ask you to run dpkg-reconfigure etc). happened to me too (ssh connection broke while dist upgrade to lenny) |
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| 23:31.41 | enouf | dondelelcaro: nevermind - i think i have a bad brainfart |
| 23:31.48 | WormBe | I just upgraded to sid and tried to install kde but got a Broken packages error and a list of Depends: ... but it is not going to be installed messages |
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| 23:32.00 | simonrvn | frostschutz: dpkg --configure -a actually |
| 23:32.01 | lockd | does anyone at all know how to configure Java's audio system? |
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| 23:32.08 | simonrvn | Sebo: ^^ too |
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| 23:32.22 | Sebo | frostschutz: So if # apt-get upgrade says it has nothing to do everything should be OK :) So its fine :) |
| 23:32.26 | frostschutz | simonrvn: yeah, something like that :) |
| 23:32.29 | frostschutz | Sebo: I guess so |
| 23:32.29 | Sebo | THX |
| 23:32.31 | craigevil | WormBe: thats probably because kde3 and kde4 parts are in sid |
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| 23:33.07 | enouf | i see things like ==> standard libnewt0.51 deinstall ok config-files <== as well, so, it's not showing only the installed ones, i was confusing that command with another i use (grep-status ...) |
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| 23:34.34 | toshiba510cdt | is anyone here running Lenny *with* the X-Window System on a Pentium 120 MHz or 133 MHz laptop??? |
| 23:34.41 | WormBe | craigevil: so, is there a workaround? |
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| 23:34.57 | thesnark | toshiba510cdt jesus please tell me that is your only computer |
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| 23:35.08 | Eulex | toshiba510cdt, uh, how much ram does that one have? |
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| 23:35.36 | adama | using irssi, how can I hide all the join messages? |
| 23:35.46 | enouf | toshiba510cdt: heh, that'd be a nice rare catch - not that others aren't using old hardware, just that finding someone that uses that Toshiba, with that "chip_drv.so" as the X driver is .. er .. |
| 23:36.03 | redspike | anyone know howto get adobe to display .pdf files right, if the font is helvetica adobe reader cant display them can i download the helvetica font in some package? |
| 23:36.09 | toshiba510cdt | <Eulex> 80MB RAM, 2 gigabyte hard disk |
| 23:36.14 | Eulex | adama, ask #irssi? |
| 23:36.25 | adama | good call :) |
| 23:36.30 | enouf | toshiba510cdt: post your pastebin info again .. maybe someone can help ... where i failed a bit |
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| 23:36.37 | Eulex | toshiba510cdt, that will be usable then yeah, tho a bit slow. run a light-weight window manager or desktop environment. |
| 23:36.47 | thesnark | ;__; how am I getting a stalled debian 5.0 torrent with 2560 seeds? |
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| 23:37.19 | enouf | redspike: do you mean acroread? |
| 23:37.21 | toshiba510cdt | <enouf> i managed to solve the problem with X. I am now running X 800x600 @16 bit color |
| 23:37.26 | craigevil | WormBe: you could try apt-get install kdebase and install the other things you need from there if you want kde3.5 |
| 23:37.43 | enouf | toshiba510cdt: w00h00? can you give me a brief overview of what was needed? |
| 23:37.46 | redspike | enouf: yes |
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| 23:38.22 | redspike | enouf: same in evince |
| 23:38.25 | enouf | redspike: why can't acroread use it's fonts? got an example i can test? |
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| 23:39.06 | redspike | enouf: not on this compuer :( but its the same in evince (gnome pdf reader) |
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| 23:39.47 | craigevil | WormBe: you might also ask in #debian-kde, im lazy i just used synaptic to install kded a couple of months ago |
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| 23:40.06 | toshiba510cdt | enouf: a very flexible xorg.conf file created by one of the xorg guys to be found on powerzone.dk/xorg.conf |
| 23:40.08 | enouf | redspike: all i can say is; |
| 23:40.09 | enouf | ~$ fc-match Helvetica |
| 23:40.10 | enouf | n019003l.pfb: "Nimbus Sans L" "Regular" |
| 23:40.36 | enouf | toshiba510cdt: way way cool - can you pastebin it for me? |
| 23:40.50 | toshiba510cdt | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:40.54 | enouf | toshiba510cdt: i want to know/learn how far off i was |
| 23:41.07 | enouf | oh ok |
| 23:41.32 | toshiba510cdt | my question remains the same... |
| 23:41.35 | toshiba510cdt | is anyone here running Lenny *with* the X-Window System on a Pentium 120 MHz or 133 MHz laptop??? |
| 23:41.36 | Sirecat | Hey everyone...is DVD image 1 basically all that is needed to install? Don't need all the source and such |
| 23:41.37 | enouf | toshiba510cdt: haha => Driver "vesa" |
| 23:41.46 | WormBe | well the problem is also true with gnome |
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| 23:42.00 | enouf | toshiba510cdt: screw it .. if it works, it works |
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| 23:42.23 | toshiba510cdt | is lxde too much for a pentium 120 Mhz laptop? |
| 23:42.47 | enouf | i heard it uses openbox as default WM ? |
| 23:42.55 | craigevil | WormBe: its sid what do you expect, you could always try install kde/gnome using testing or even lenny repos then upgrading |
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| 23:43.05 | beardy | I wouldn't want X on a machine like that. |
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| 23:43.24 | jpinx | after I have edited /etc/network/interfaces to add the stanza for ath0 - what's the command to make the system see ath0? |
| 23:44.02 | enouf | beardy: you've got to see the lspci -nn output - there was a total of 4 lines ... yes, 4 |
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| 23:44.18 | enouf | one was the VGA one |
| 23:44.18 | beardy | jpinx: Do you mean eth0? '/etc/init.d/networking restart' |
| 23:44.25 | toshiba510cdt | <beardy> X-Window System via icewm works ok on my Pentium 133 Mhz laptop manufactured in 1996. |
| 23:44.43 | enouf | jpinx: does ls /sys/class/net show it? |
| 23:45.01 | beardy | toshiba510cdt: I'm sure it works. I just wouldn't want it. Would work much nicer using console alone. Then such a machine is a nice little one. |
| 23:45.06 | jpinx | enouf: that's the thing.... |
| 23:45.10 | enouf | jpinx: if you modprobe the correct module, iinm |
| 23:45.17 | enouf | and firmware? |
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| 23:46.07 | jpinx | enouf - no |
| 23:46.09 | toshiba510cdt | <beardy> but console mode is no fun when you have to use a *graphical* web browser and some X apps |
| 23:46.24 | enouf | toshiba510cdt: did you know there are GUI browsers that run in Console? using framebuffer, it's pretty ok - try it - /msg dpkg links2 - /msg dpkg fbcon resolution |
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| 23:46.46 | beardy | toshiba510cdt: Well, personal preference. Use links in fb. |
| 23:47.01 | enouf | jpinx: what chip? |
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| 23:47.25 | jpinx | enouf: no idea. it's built into the eeepc |
| 23:47.39 | enouf | jpinx: grah - show us lspci -nnk |
| 23:48.19 | toshiba510cdt | i know links2 but it is pretty limited. dillo is somewhat better but it does not support javascript and does not work with a lot of webmail providers |
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| 23:48.55 | Eulex | toshiba510cdt, xlinks2? |
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| 23:49.06 | jpinx | what was that wonderful command that pasted direct from the cl ? |
| 23:49.10 | MarcoPau | hello, I'm mounting my ext3 data partition with options default and errors=remount-ro but I can't write in it as user. suppose gid=1000 won't work on ext3 partitions. any hint? |
| 23:49.17 | enouf | Eulex: that's for running it in X |
| 23:49.29 | enouf | toshiba510cdt: how is it limited? |
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| 23:49.47 | Eulex | enouf, I'm aware. he appears to want a browser for X. |
| 23:49.55 | frostschutz | MarcoPau: chown/chmod for any fs that supports linux permissions / ownership? |
| 23:50.12 | enouf | Eulex: er.. we are trying to tell him about Console GUI capable browsers |
| 23:50.31 | MarcoPau | frostschutz: on the mountpoint? |
| 23:51.00 | enouf | Eulex: so, perhaps, he can use Console only instead of X and a WM on his 133MHz 80MB RAM laptop |
| 23:51.02 | frostschutz | MarcoPau: after mounting, as the permissions of the mount point are overridden with the perms of the / of the mounted fs |
| 23:51.42 | enouf | toshiba510cdt: Dillo works as GUI in console? i didn't know that |
| 23:51.51 | stoned | it does? |
| 23:52.00 | toshiba510cdt | iceweasel is very slow on my Pentium 133 MHz laptop, that is why i mainly use dillo BUT i am after something in between dillo and firefox. opera is the only thing that i found that meets the technical side of things but i did NOT install it because it is not free software |
| 23:52.17 | enouf | ofcourse iceweasel is slow .. mwahahaha ;-) |
| 23:52.32 | enouf | toshiba510cdt: then try epiphany or midori perhaps |
| 23:52.33 | dkr | hrm, I used to run X back in the day on my desktop pentium 133. ran netscape and plenty of other apps simultaneously |
| 23:52.39 | stoned | judd versions dillo |
| 23:52.40 | judd | stoned: dillo -- etch: 0.8.5-4.1 sid: 0.8.6-3 |
| 23:52.41 | toshiba510cdt | dillo is an X app |
| 23:52.46 | dkr | I guess modern apps are a bit bloated, though. :) |
| 23:52.59 | stoned | yeh im on testing and its not in testing |
| 23:53.25 | enouf | !tell stoned -about ssb |
| 23:53.28 | enouf | :-P |
| 23:53.33 | stoned | you want me to smack you? |
| 23:53.40 | stoned | cuz I'll smack you, you know, if you want me to |
| 23:53.42 | stoned | no problem. |
| 23:53.42 | enouf | well, stop saying silly things |
| 23:53.48 | dkr | use a trout! |
| 23:54.02 | thingfish | hey stoned |
| 23:54.06 | stoned | omg! |
| 23:54.11 | stoned | OH MY FUCKING GOD! |
| 23:54.11 | thingfish | :) |
| 23:54.17 | stoned | thing man! |
| 23:54.18 | stoned | hugs |
| 23:54.22 | thingfish | hugs |
| 23:54.24 | stoned | dude its been years where the fuck have you been |
| 23:54.28 | thingfish | how's it been? |
| 23:54.29 | enouf | !get a room |
| 23:54.29 | dpkg | Fuck you. |
| 23:54.35 | enouf | heh |
| 23:54.36 | stoned | its been great man |
| 23:54.45 | stoned | thingfish, we have a #debian-chat now |
| 23:54.47 | stoned | come there |
| 23:55.07 | thingfish | I dunno, working, not been a whole lot of time to chat |
| 23:55.19 | thingfish | stoned: how is that different than #debian? |
| 23:55.24 | stoned | offtopic |
| 23:55.25 | stoned | ;) |
| 23:55.27 | thesnark | haha so you get on IRC because you don't have a lot of time to chat? |
| 23:55.28 | thingfish | is that more ...ah |
| 23:55.39 | stoned | thingfish, ahh good one |
| 23:56.00 | thingfish | thesnark: I get on when I can - I'm off today |
| 23:56.10 | thingfish | plus haven't been doing much with linux in a while |
| 23:56.12 | stoned | thingfish, so what are you doing these days? |
| 23:56.14 | Gigantic_mini | ok, so... I compiled the official nvidia glx driver after it complained about my gcc |
| 23:56.21 | thingfish | stoned: working at a pet store |
| 23:56.30 | thingfish | soon to be managing it |
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| 23:56.33 | Gigantic_mini | should I slap myself? the module is loaded |
| 23:56.34 | stoned | thingfish, I started my own it consulting firm |
| 23:56.42 | thingfish | stoned: excellent! |
| 23:56.50 | stoned | its going great, and just keeps getting better and better |
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| 23:57.08 | stoned | my bday is next month, i'll be 28 on march 12th, and this is about all the time I have tonight |
| 23:57.16 | ThinkRusty87 | For All Your Advanced Hosting Solutions Please Visit HostRocket At: http://affiliatecenter.hostrocket.com//idevaffiliate.php?id=4757 |
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| 23:57.19 | stoned | I have two very lucrative projects I must finish before this weekend for all the money! |
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| 23:57.25 | stoned | *afk* |
| 23:57.26 | thingfish | hey well very fortuitous to have run into you |
| 23:57.34 | Gigantic_mini | cries |
| 23:57.55 | thesnark | slaps Gigantic_mini |
| 23:57.58 | thesnark | get ahold of yourself man |
| 23:58.54 | Gigantic_mini | well, I tried the Debian way, but there is a game I'm used to play under Wine, since I migrated to Debian the game is much slower... dunno what to do... |
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| 23:59.04 | Gigantic_mini | that's why I tried to force the module |
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