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| 00:00.23 | stoned | thingfish, I figured, the kinda pothead stoner personality I have, I really hate being told what to do and I hate working for companies or peopel or having bosses so I said fuck it |
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| 00:00.38 | stoned | thingfish, I just do what I want when I want it, work for myself, and I couldn't be happier |
| 00:00.41 | jpinx | enouf: http://pastebinit.com/f31539cbc |
| 00:00.47 | stoned | you should try that for happiness too ;) |
| 00:01.01 | stoned | jpinx, hey ol' timer, long time no see |
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| 00:01.16 | stoned | well, I really do have to run, bye bye |
| 00:01.18 | thingfish | stoned: cool, and I'm right there with you - I love my job, and don't have to worry about what I do in my own time |
| 00:01.35 | thingfish | heh they're bigger partiers than me |
| 00:02.04 | enouf | jpinx: try again |
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| 00:03.31 | enouf | Host not found |
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| 00:03.58 | scientes | how do i revoke permission given through gksu? |
| 00:04.11 | scientes | and make tham only last 5 minutes instead of the entire session? |
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| 00:04.24 | wedge | Is it possible to somehow run php4 on lenny? I know support has ended, but have got one customer who is really miserable about the php4 not working properly in lenny. As in mysql connection not working. |
| 00:05.01 | j_pinx | http://pastebin.com/f31539cbc |
| 00:05.07 | j_pinx | enouf: |
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| 00:05.53 | enouf | j_pinx: that's not lspci -nnk |
| 00:06.14 | scientes | j_pinx, also run as root |
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| 00:06.57 | j_pinx | http://pastebin.com/f31b845bf |
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| 00:07.32 | enouf | not to mention; ~$ grep '1969.*2048' /lib/modules/2.6.26-1-686/modules.pcimap returns nada, zilch, zippo |
| 00:08.08 | enouf | ~$ modinfo at12 |
| 00:08.09 | enouf | modinfo: could not find module at12 |
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| 00:08.24 | nkuttler | wedge: apt-cache search php4 |
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| 00:10.24 | j_pinx | enouf: http://pastebin.com/f31b845bf |
| 00:11.11 | enouf | er.. ~$ modinfo atl1 does return a hit - i see it here too http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.28/drivers/net/Kconfig#L2307 and in .26 |
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| 00:11.49 | scientes | wedge, did you try the php4 package from etch? |
| 00:12.01 | wedge | scientes: yes |
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| 00:12.35 | scientes | hmm, i though linux was suppose to be backwards compatible |
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| 00:13.07 | enouf | oo .. i see atl2 in .28 |
| 00:13.17 | nkuttler | scientes: php5 should be php4 compatible |
| 00:13.33 | scientes | they still have the source up: http://www.php.net/downloads.php you could try building |
| 00:13.34 | enouf | here we go; http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=452c1ce218a68b5dbd626397ecfc65ca89dd3cbb |
| 00:13.54 | scientes | wonder why the etch wouldnt work |
| 00:14.00 | hgosch | can someone explain me the diference between debian and arch linux? |
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| 00:14.05 | wedge | php4 in etch works |
| 00:14.21 | themill | nkuttler: only for echo "hello world". |
| 00:14.23 | epsilon | is it still maintained? |
| 00:14.32 | scientes | oh, they there you are, as it is discontinued you just wont get any updates |
| 00:14.42 | simonrvn | hgosch: there are web sites around that do that comparison already. go read them. |
| 00:16.48 | nsadmin | anyone know if waldi is playing with 2.6.28 yet? |
| 00:17.00 | jelly-home | playing? |
| 00:17.24 | nsadmin | building/using/packaging |
| 00:17.40 | themill | !trunk kernel |
| 00:17.40 | dpkg | Visit http://wiki.debian.org/DebianKernel for information on installing the kernel team's latest experimental kernels. Also visit #debian-kernel on irc.debian.org for more information on these kernels. See http://wiki.debian.org/HowToRebuildAnOfficialDebianKernelPackage or ask me about <kernel package>. |
| 00:18.07 | jelly-home | nsadmin: there have been linux-image-2.6.28-* packages in debian-kernel buildserver repo for some 2-3 weeks |
| 00:18.22 | paulfitzpatrick | I'm trying to use ssh as a socks proxy from my mac to my debian server, but having some issues. |
| 00:18.47 | paulfitzpatrick | I have ssh on a not normal port for security, and ssh -D 2001 user@host.com -p123 is failing |
| 00:18.50 | nsadmin | jelly-home: happen to know if they can be dom0s? |
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| 00:19.02 | jelly-home | no. |
| 00:19.11 | paulfitzpatrick | times out. Is it impossible to use it with a non-normal port? |
| 00:19.19 | jelly-home | nsadmin: I don't know. |
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| 00:20.08 | jelly-home | paulfitzpatrick: how is it failing? which version of sshd on the remote side? |
| 00:20.36 | paulfitzpatrick | (iptables are allowing connections on both 2001 and 123, SSH conf is set to accept connections on port 123) |
| 00:20.37 | JordiGH | Is there a way to get serif fonts in Iceweasel? |
| 00:20.40 | nsadmin | ok, thanks... anyone succeeded in getting 2.6.28 to be a dom0? |
| 00:20.54 | paulfitzpatrick | it's timing out, no message in syslog about it |
| 00:21.02 | paulfitzpatrick | iptables doesn't appear to be blocking anything |
| 00:21.18 | JordiGH | My default font is serif, but I don't think I've ever seen a serif. |
| 00:21.37 | jelly-home | paulfitzpatrick: what is timing out? Connecting to the remote machine? Connecting to the socks proxy port? |
| 00:21.46 | nsadmin | I sot the serif |
| 00:21.52 | paulfitzpatrick | ah sorry, connecting to the remote machine is timing out |
| 00:22.27 | paulfitzpatrick | one sec I'll paste debug from connection |
| 00:22.37 | jelly-home | paulfitzpatrick: can you do a "telnet host.com 123" from the same client? |
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| 00:24.02 | paulfitzpatrick | one sec, trying. http://pastie.org/393496 errors btw |
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| 00:24.53 | simonrvn | 123? that's the default ntp port... |
| 00:24.56 | jelly-home | paulfitzpatrick: you seem to have network and/or firewall issues. |
| 00:25.22 | paulfitzpatrick | yes I can telnet to it |
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| 00:25.43 | paulfitzpatrick | do I need to add lines to ssh conf? |
| 00:25.51 | jelly-home | paulfitzpatrick: and do you get an SSH banner? |
| 00:25.56 | paulfitzpatrick | because there isn't any iptables issues. |
| 00:26.24 | paulfitzpatrick | banner from telnet? like this? SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_4.3p2 Debian-9etch3 |
| 00:26.28 | jelly-home | right. |
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| 00:27.34 | paulfitzpatrick | mm perhaps I should use a domain name when connecting and not the ip? |
| 00:27.35 | jelly-home | paulfitzpatrick: pastebin the output of "ssh -vv -p 123 user@host.com", first without -D, then with. Also, verify than openssh 4.3 on the remote machine really supports -D. |
| 00:27.56 | enouf | s/than/that |
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| 00:28.31 | paulfitzpatrick | I just did a conection using the domain name instead of ip and it didn't time out. Just checking if the proxy works now |
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| 00:29.58 | paulfitzpatrick | yup that was it, working now :D thanks for the help |
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| 00:31.18 | JordiGH | Hm, I have the ttf dejavu fonts... which supposedly have serif fonts. |
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| 00:32.22 | c0d3-r3d | is there a reason why the netinstall cd doesnt wanna boot if its burnt over as dvd? |
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| 00:33.16 | Joelito | Hi all, I'm using fluxbox @ debian 5, anyone know a good terminal emulator that fits well in fluxbox (I mean not extra gnome or kde packages) that has copy and paste features? |
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| 00:33.48 | Joelito | c0d3-r3d: did you choose a DVD-iso in your burner software? |
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| 00:35.08 | j_pinx | enouf: did you see the paste? http://pastebin.com/f31b845bf |
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| 00:35.44 | enouf | j_pinx: yep |
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| 00:36.21 | Kill | is there a reason why the netinstall cd doesnt wanna boot if its burnt over as dvd? |
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| 00:37.05 | Joelito | ¬¬ |
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| 00:37.39 | c0d3-r3d | hmm |
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| 00:39.13 | enouf | j_pinx: you built yourself a .28 eh? |
| 00:40.18 | enouf | j_pinx: it's brand new, that driver - i'd say file a bug report if no iface appears, or .. i dunno, maybe a udev rule or something needs to be updated - which debian version/release are you on? |
| 00:40.21 | jpinx | enouf: no |
| 00:40.38 | jpinx | I just did an update and upgrade |
| 00:40.42 | enouf | jpinx: so it came out of thin air? |
| 00:41.14 | jpinx | it must be included in the sources for eeepc's |
| 00:41.16 | enouf | judd: versions linux-image-2.6-686 |
| 00:41.17 | judd | enouf: linux-image-2.6-686 -- etch: 2.6.18+6etch3 etch-security: 2.6.18+6etch3 etch-backports: 2.6.26+17~bpo40+1 lenny: 2.6.26+17 sid: 2.6.26+17 squeeze: 2.6.26+17 |
| 00:41.36 | enouf | jpinx: what? |
| 00:41.46 | enouf | what's a eeepc source? |
| 00:42.06 | jpinx | enouf: the eeepc project has their own repos and a different cources.list |
| 00:42.15 | enouf | so, go ask them then |
| 00:42.21 | jpinx | yep |
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| 00:42.26 | jpinx | tomorrow;) |
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| 00:55.18 | scientes | im using apt-cacher, but some of the ubuntu package names clash with the debian package names, how can i prevent this |
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| 01:02.41 | Circuitsoft | Hello |
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| 01:03.11 | Circuitsoft | Is there a "best place" to put a "xrandr --dpi <val>" command? |
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| 01:03.32 | Circuitsoft | Using gdm and xfce4-session-manager |
| 01:03.52 | Bdubnc1 | Hey everyone, is there an easy way to upgrade debian 5 kernel to 2.6.28 |
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| 01:07.01 | JordiGH | Bdubnc1: No 2.6.28 Linuxen are packaged yet. So the answer is "no". |
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| 01:07.32 | Circuitsoft | Would it be possible to get 915resolution for lenny? |
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| 01:07.54 | Gigantic | what is the dpk-reconfigure to set X niceness? |
| 01:08.14 | mischief6 | can anyone tell me how i can figure out why pureftpd isn't starting? there are no logs or error messages.. :\ |
| 01:08.15 | Circuitsoft | I'm trying to get a framebuffer console with the native resolution of my laptop. |
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| 01:08.20 | Bdubnc1 | Ok thanks for you help!! |
| 01:09.17 | jelly-home | Circuitsoft: if you're going to use X, it's better not to enable the framebuffer console at all. |
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| 01:09.42 | Circuitsoft | And I suppose XDirectFB is expressly unsupported? |
| 01:10.20 | jelly-home | no, I assumed the usual case of Xorg having its own drivers |
| 01:10.41 | Circuitsoft | jelly-home that's the way it's usually done. |
| 01:10.45 | jelly-home | no idea about "XDirectFB" |
| 01:11.00 | Circuitsoft | But, XDirectFB would be using the DirectFB/Fusion framework as a backend for X. |
| 01:11.05 | Circuitsoft | XDirectFB is a rootless server. |
| 01:11.25 | Circuitsoft | Never got it working on Gentoo on my old machine (then the BIOS died) |
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| 01:13.41 | jmd | I've just changed a motherboard. Now when I boot, I see the message "[ 44.747360] udev: renamed network interface eth0 to eth1" and this breaks all references to eth0. How do I get the OS to leave the damn names alone so everything works properly? |
| 01:13.58 | jelly-home | !tell jmd -about z25 |
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| 01:17.59 | chrisc | wonders if creating a sw raid 1 /boot is possible - if it is i seem to be doing something wrong... |
| 01:18.36 | Ace2017_- | Hi all |
| 01:18.43 | Ace2017_- | something i wrong with my network |
| 01:18.46 | Ace2017_- | its very slow |
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| 01:20.15 | mfrisch | Lenny is out YEA!!! I have been under a rock good to see!!! |
| 01:20.20 | Ace2017_- | a single git-clone downloading files is using almsot 100% of the network |
| 01:20.43 | Ace2017_- | the aptitude package download completely stalled at 0% |
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| 01:20.52 | Ace2017_- | it didn't error, it just stalled |
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| 01:23.17 | JordiGH | My brother downloaded some Windows fonts. How can he install them to use them with OO.o? |
| 01:23.38 | enouf | Ace2017_-: renice each? |
| 01:23.53 | Ace2017_- | enouf: does niceness effect network usage? |
| 01:24.02 | enouf | JordiGH: ask #openoffice.org? or whatever it is? |
| 01:24.16 | Ace2017_- | JordiGH: did you install it as a user font? |
| 01:24.17 | enouf | Ace2017_-: if there's a PID, ofcourse |
| 01:24.29 | enouf | Ace2017_-: well, as it pertains to CPU |
| 01:24.52 | enouf | and Kernel priority |
| 01:25.22 | Ace2017_- | the cnn video stream and the download by aptitude were slowed to a crawl by git-clone, i've also seen an aptitude package download stop torrent downloads going at 80% of top speed slowed to a few kb/s |
| 01:26.00 | enouf | Ace2017_-: would you rather have the defaults setup the reverse way? |
| 01:26.29 | enouf | where aptitude/pkgmanager downloads make your video all choppy and broken audio? |
| 01:26.42 | enouf | and drop your torrent conns? |
| 01:26.52 | Ace2017_- | yes |
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| 01:27.13 | Ace2017_- | torrents rarely go at 100%, my isp throttles those |
| 01:27.37 | JordiGH | Ace2017_-: Yeah, in ~/.openoffice2/user/fonts |
| 01:27.46 | JordiGH | Ace2017_-: It's Helvetica, it seems... |
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| 01:28.56 | Ace2017_- | Why not put them in ~/.fonts ? |
| 01:28.57 | mfrisch | can you put debian on a zire 72s?? |
| 01:29.08 | S-i-A | hi Debianer |
| 01:29.11 | S-i-A | :) |
| 01:30.00 | Ace2017_- | enouf: "where aptitude/pkgmanager downloads make your video all choppy and broken audio" is what i have now :( |
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| 01:30.49 | enouf | Ace2017_-: well no .. you said git-clone caused that - plus harmed the pkgmanager d/l |
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| 01:31.51 | jelly-home | Ace2017_-: tried wondershaper? |
| 01:33.20 | JordiGH | Ace2017_-: Hm, OO.o is seeing one of the fonts, Kravitz, but not Helvetica. |
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| 01:34.39 | Ace2017_- | jelly-home: setup wondershaper and run everything through it as a proxy? |
| 01:35.05 | jelly-home | Ace2017_-: no, just install and run it. |
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| 01:35.34 | jelly-home | with parameters appropriate for your internet connection |
| 01:36.36 | Ace2017_- | ok i'll try it |
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| 01:37.18 | Ace2017_- | jelly-home: according to its website its upstream traffic destroying the streams, does git-clone upload while downloading? |
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| 01:39.05 | jelly-home | Ace2017_-: I have no idea. You could monitor the traffic with iptraf or a network applet and find out for yourself. |
| 01:40.12 | Ace2017_- | jelly-home: thanks i'll use kde4 ksysguard |
| 01:43.56 | scientes | why when i do `apt-get upgrade` would packages be held back? |
| 01:44.58 | JordiGH | Hm, the Kravitz font is .ttf, and OO.o seems to be able to read that. But the Helvetica fonts are .otf |
| 01:45.19 | enouf | Ace2017_-: are you sure a pkg name 'trickle' isn't installed? Are you using aptitude/whatever through a Proxy? Is someone/something already traffic-shaping your ass? |
| 01:45.30 | enouf | is there wired AND wifi going? |
| 01:45.55 | enouf | !split access |
| 01:45.55 | dpkg | hmm... split access is when you have 2 networks connected to the same computer, with their separate default gateways, the first step in loadbalancing, http://yellowpigs.net/computers/multiple_subnets, or http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html |
| 01:46.29 | s3a | any1 have an idea of wen a revision of lenny should be out? |
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| 01:46.38 | Ace2017_- | enouf: its a lan, my pc > router > ISP |
| 01:46.45 | Ace2017_- | no wifi |
| 01:46.47 | jhutchins_ltsp | what's firefox in lenny? |
| 01:46.54 | Mousey | a web browser |
| 01:46.54 | s3a | iceweasel=firefox |
| 01:47.51 | s3a | did anybody here read byteofpython? if so, will completing that book, give me the knowledge i need to fix bugs in debian applications written in python? |
| 01:47.54 | jhutchins_ltsp | Didn't upgrade for some reason. |
| 01:48.11 | Ace2017_- | why isn't there a dummy firefox package? |
| 01:48.14 | jhutchins_ltsp | Mousey: tnx. |
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| 01:48.38 | dondelelcaro | Ace2017_-: because etch released with iceweasel, and we no longer need the transition package |
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| 01:49.19 | dondelelcaro | enouf: if you want to do things otherwise, use grep-dctrl; that's what you use to search for available packages. [Specifically grep-aptavail] |
| 01:49.26 | Ace2017_- | i was hoping it'd be there for new people |
| 01:49.52 | enouf | dondelelcaro: ahhh - thanks |
| 01:50.13 | dondelelcaro | Ace2017_-: apt-cache search firefox; will make it show up |
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| 01:50.37 | dondelelcaro | Ace2017_-: but since it's not firefox, we don't distribute it as if it were. The transition package was only there to help people upgrade, not to masquarade as if it was actually firefox |
| 01:51.05 | Ace2017_- | the dummy package could have the reason why its called iceweasel in the description |
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| 01:51.30 | enouf | kind of like the -k7 pkgs, but for different reasons obviously |
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| 01:53.32 | paulfitzpatrick | I've just bought additional ips for my debian server, I need to ssh into all of the different ips, what changes do I need to make to ssh config? |
| 01:54.09 | paulfitzpatrick | I've added the ips to /etc/network/interfaces |
| 01:54.36 | paulfitzpatrick | however connections just time out |
| 01:54.50 | mfrisch | Debian is AWESOME YEAH 5.0 Finally can't wait to install it!!! |
| 01:55.03 | mfrisch | bye |
| 01:55.25 | liable | hmm |
| 01:55.40 | paulfitzpatrick | iptables: http://pastie.org/393542 ssh conf: http://pastie.org/393568 |
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| 02:00.18 | wedge | where do I find the bnx2 firmware? |
| 02:00.34 | wedge | debian lenny complains about not having it |
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| 02:01.03 | wedge | nvm I think I found it |
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| 02:03.47 | vicro | i need install tora |
| 02:03.59 | vicro | i need a howto |
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| 02:04.24 | octoserver | what do i have to istall to be able to rip a cd to mp3 ? |
| 02:04.26 | magyar | hi, i am looking for the package that replaced mt-st from etch in lenny |
| 02:04.31 | octoserver | do i have to install lame ? |
| 02:04.38 | magyar | i think gnu mt or something |
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| 02:06.13 | wedge | hm nope, no luck |
| 02:06.21 | wedge | how do I load the bnx2 firmware from a usb stick? |
| 02:06.26 | octoserver | i have libmad0 installed but i dont have the option to rip to mp3 in k3b, any ideas what I need to install ? |
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| 02:08.22 | enouf | wedge: cp over the .deb? or just place it in /lib/firmware |
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| 02:08.38 | enouf | octoserver: /msg dpkg dmm |
| 02:08.43 | enouf | octoserver: install lame |
| 02:08.54 | octoserver | oh, thanks |
| 02:08.55 | wedge | enouf: the .fw file that it asks for? |
| 02:09.06 | p0g0 | octoserver: or see k3b, a gui that will rip. |
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| 02:09.34 | bmoll8 | hello I am using fetchmail to download mail to my laptop. It works well; however, I notice that even when I pass the -a flag to fetchmail, it only downloads emails from a certain date onwards (for me, it is Nov 2008). This makes no sense to me; isn't fetchmail -a supposed to download all messages |
| 02:09.43 | enouf | !bnx2 |
| 02:09.44 | dpkg | bnx2 is probably the Broadcom NetXtreme II (BCM5706/5708) driver. Disabled in 'linux-2.6' 2.6.23-1 due to binary-only firmware, see http://bugs.debian.org/469349. Enabled again in 'linux-2.6' 2.6.24-7, install the <non-free> 'firmware-bnx2' package (etchnhalf, lenny) to enable driver use. Note: These devices will not be available during installation when using a <lenny>-based installer (this includes <etchnhalf>). |
| 02:10.09 | octoserver | i have k3b, and mad and lame installed it seems but and they are int he plugin list , but dont come up when trying to rip |
| 02:11.12 | cjns3274 | I'm gettin a GPG error: http://ftp.us.debian.org stable Release: The following signatures were invalid: on etch .. when running apt-get update .. and the "W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems" .. what gives?? |
| 02:11.35 | cjns3274 | .. infinite recursion..?? |
| 02:11.46 | simonrvn | cjns3274: /msg dpkg no apt key |
| 02:11.52 | enouf | right |
| 02:11.58 | simonrvn | or whatever that factoid is... |
| 02:12.27 | enouf | heh - finally got pushed off the /topic it seems simeon_ |
| 02:12.30 | enouf | er simonrvn |
| 02:12.33 | simonrvn | !etch key |
| 02:12.33 | dpkg | # apt-get install debian-archive-keyring && apt-key update |
| 02:12.46 | enouf | !no public key |
| 02:12.46 | dpkg | Seeing "There are no public keys available"? This means that the Release file has been signed by a key which you do not have. If it's signed by another key which you do have, you can ignore the warning. Otherwise, you can add the key listed *AFTER* checking the validity of the signatures on the key. Ask me about <2006 key> or <etch key> for more details. The current key will be linked at http://ftp-master.debian.org/. |
| 02:13.06 | simonrvn | cjns3274: might want to upgrade to current stable too ;) |
| 02:13.07 | enouf | er .. |
| 02:13.11 | simonrvn | enouf: that's it |
| 02:13.13 | enouf | yeah - really |
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| 02:15.04 | wedge | where can I put the bnx2-6-4.0.5.fw file so lenny installer will find it? |
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| 02:17.41 | simonrvn | /lib/firmware like all the other firmware blobs |
| 02:18.10 | wedge | simonrvn: can I just open an console during installer and make symlinks there? |
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| 02:19.18 | cjns3274 | bloody hell..!! my sources.list file has "stable" .. I thought it was "etch" .. now how am I going to get out of this mess??? |
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| 02:34.42 | HermanDE | Anybody have any luck setting funambol on Lenny x64? |
| 02:37.30 | HermanDE | Anybody have any luck setting funambol on Lenny x64? |
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| 02:42.26 | simonrvn | wtf |
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| 02:52.53 | SpeedyG | Hi, I would like to know if it is possible to use wget to download google-searchresults. Does anyone here know if, and ifso, how it can be done? Just a simple wget $google-searchurl doesnt seem to work :( |
| 02:53.02 | wrt54gltx | is Debian a food? |
| 02:53.21 | bittin_ | no |
| 02:53.41 | wrt54gltx | what is it? |
| 02:53.46 | bittin_ | a Linux system |
| 02:53.49 | pl4yer0ne | SpeedyG, it should be in theory |
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| 02:53.49 | simonrvn | wrt54gltx: lame troll. go away. |
| 02:53.58 | jsubl2 | wrt54gltx: google ian murdock |
| 02:54.13 | wrt54gltx | it said ian murdock sucks cock |
| 02:54.20 | enouf | SpeedyG: take a look at xml2 pkg and examples perhaps |
| 02:54.22 | simonrvn | !ops wrt54gltx |
| 02:54.22 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: simonrvn complains about: wrt54gltx |
| 02:54.29 | jsubl2 | yep hes a troll. a filthy mouthed troll |
| 02:55.00 | simonrvn | in the mean time... *plonk* |
| 02:55.06 | bittin_ | !ops wrt54gltx |
| 02:55.06 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: bittin_ complains about: wrt54gltx |
| 02:55.18 | simonrvn | bittin_: once is enough |
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| 02:57.46 | thasp | is there something like nload that will show bandwidth over every NIC in a machine? |
| 02:57.51 | thasp | i don't want to have to open 3 windows |
| 02:58.06 | wedge | thasp: iptraf may be able to do it |
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| 02:59.15 | LRU | why does dpkg --configure call 'update-initramfs' ? |
| 02:59.18 | LRU | oops |
| 02:59.22 | LRU | why does dpkg --configure udev call 'update-initramfs' ? |
| 02:59.51 | enouf | because |
| 03:00.17 | enouf | er - you did something foolish .. or silly |
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| 03:00.31 | LRU | I wish I knew what it was :-) |
| 03:00.53 | enouf | actually - the initrd has a lot of udev and hooks in it |
| 03:01.11 | enouf | LRU: man update-initramfs |
| 03:01.12 | simonrvn | check out /etc/initramfs-tools/ for S&G |
| 03:01.36 | enouf | LRU: question is; why are you running that command |
| 03:02.23 | enouf | thasp: iftop will - or should |
| 03:02.34 | enouf | thasp: there are many tools though similar |
| 03:02.41 | enouf | ntop maybe even |
| 03:02.52 | LRU | why am I running dpkg --configure udev? Because I'm part way through a lenny upgrade, and udev won't finish it's config... neither will dpkg --configure initramfs-tools |
| 03:02.56 | enouf | etherape for GUI |
| 03:03.00 | simonrvn | vnstat |
| 03:03.00 | thasp | thanks enouf |
| 03:03.11 | thasp | vnstat doesn't show in real time |
| 03:03.20 | simonrvn | keeps a db, and runs via cronjob |
| 03:03.20 | thasp | it just shows how much has been sent/received, not a rate |
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| 03:03.30 | simonrvn | true 'nough |
| 03:04.00 | enouf | LRU: pastebin all output |
| 03:04.02 | LRU | simonrvn: not sure what "S&G" means, but it looks like I may be able to disable update-initramfs that way.. thanks :-) |
| 03:04.10 | LRU | enouf: ok, hang on |
| 03:04.15 | simonrvn | iftop's rather neat |
| 03:04.38 | simonrvn | LRU: um, i wouldn't recommend that if you have initrd-based kernel there... |
| 03:05.10 | dihymo | anyone have libc 2.8 (amd64)? libc-i386 2.8 libc-dev 2.8 and locales 2.8? |
| 03:05.16 | enouf | LRU: lenny upgrade? from what? |
| 03:05.27 | LRU | enouf: from etch |
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| 03:06.05 | enouf | LRU: you have anyy mdadm, lvm, encyption going on? |
| 03:06.05 | dee25 | i just upgraded debian etch to lenny |
| 03:06.21 | LRU | enouf: nope |
| 03:06.22 | enouf | or other RAIDs |
| 03:06.27 | dee25 | but now im at a black screen |
| 03:06.48 | dee25 | with a login and password and saying |
| 03:06.56 | LRU | enouf: nope... just a custom kernel compiled using make-kpkg command |
| 03:07.09 | dee25 | debian gnu linx 5.0 tty1 |
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| 03:07.30 | dee25 | debian gun linux comes with absolutley no warranty |
| 03:07.32 | enouf | LRU: why? ! are there other debian linux-image-version pkgs installed? |
| 03:07.44 | maddash | what's going on with the testing repo gpg key? |
| 03:07.53 | simonrvn | LRU: then it shouldn't even be calling that if you built-in your needed stuff. |
| 03:08.05 | simonrvn | maddash: lenny released? |
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| 03:08.19 | enouf | simonrvn: unless he used --initrd :-p |
| 03:08.26 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 03:08.27 | maddash | simonrvn: nvm, it's gone now. weird. |
| 03:09.25 | simonrvn | dee25: um, yes, and? that's normal. |
| 03:09.39 | dee25 | alright but cant log in |
| 03:09.46 | LRU | enouf: I try to keep up with the latest kernel for development and testing... yes, I did use --initrd, but I don't have any odd hardware... I'm sure I could recompile the kernel without it, just seemed easiest at the time |
| 03:09.46 | simonrvn | dee25: unless you expected gdm or such to run, that's normal ;). |
| 03:10.01 | dee25 | ]im just stuck there |
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| 03:10.18 | simonrvn | dee25: you type in your username and password and doesn't accept it? |
| 03:10.25 | dee25 | i type it |
| 03:10.28 | dee25 | in |
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| 03:11.08 | simonrvn | yes or no is fine |
| 03:11.09 | dee25 | it told me the time i log in |
| 03:11.56 | dee25 | the programs included with the debian system are free software blah blah |
| 03:12.19 | Ace2017_- | then it accepted it |
| 03:12.31 | dee25 | and than debian comes with with abosolutely no warranty ,to the extent |
| 03:12.36 | simonrvn | dee25: um, and shows you a prompt? |
| 03:12.46 | dee25 | yeaa prompt |
| 03:12.55 | simonrvn | then what's the problem? |
| 03:13.10 | dee25 | everthing is black |
| 03:13.19 | simonrvn | yes. that's normal. |
| 03:13.19 | wedge | debian lenny installer is so broken it's not funny.. *le sigh* |
| 03:13.21 | Ace2017_- | dee25: are you new to linux? |
| 03:13.37 | enouf | LRU: sure - using --initrd is smart |
| 03:13.41 | wedge | stuck on "configurating popularity contest 12%" |
| 03:13.52 | dee25 | yeaaaa i had linux etch i just upgrade to |
| 03:13.53 | dee25 | lenny |
| 03:13.57 | simonrvn | wedge: file a bug |
| 03:14.30 | dee25 | i restarted boot up from the kernel and after it shows all this |
| 03:14.36 | wedge | simonrvn: I might, I just have no idea how to diagnose it |
| 03:14.38 | dee25 | cant even get to my desktop |
| 03:14.51 | Ace2017_- | dee25: kde or gnome? |
| 03:15.00 | liable | wedge: its probably hanging on downloading it. switch to vt4 |
| 03:15.04 | dee25 | idk is lenny |
| 03:15.13 | dee25 | on gnome or kde |
| 03:15.27 | Ace2017_- | what desktop did you have in etch? |
| 03:15.31 | wedge | liable: said something like "obselete command TITLE configurating popularity contest" |
| 03:16.02 | liable | wedge: thats ok, anything else? |
| 03:16.08 | wedge | nope, no other errors |
| 03:16.15 | wedge | just stuck there forever |
| 03:16.18 | dee25 | i had |
| 03:16.20 | dee25 | in etch |
| 03:16.26 | dee25 | was kde |
| 03:16.50 | Ace2017_- | so you can run startkde |
| 03:17.25 | Ace2017_- | or sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart or /etc/init.d/kdm restart as root |
| 03:17.25 | wedge | ill just use etch and dist-upgrade from there |
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| 03:17.39 | simonrvn | or startx and have startkde in ~/.xsession |
| 03:17.52 | wedge | lenny gives me a reminder of how the r0 release was of 4.0 |
| 03:18.00 | wedge | weird issues and bugs on some servers |
| 03:18.13 | cmanns | Hey guys, how can I tell which ethernet adapter is which :( |
| 03:18.22 | wedge | cmanns: eth0 and eth1 ? |
| 03:18.24 | Ace2017_- | cmanns: unplug one at random? |
| 03:18.29 | wedge | what Ace2017_- said |
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| 03:18.49 | wedge | also isnt there a way to flash the leds on the eth's? |
| 03:19.41 | cmanns | It's a remote box :P |
| 03:19.44 | simonrvn | ping via a chosen iface ;p |
| 03:20.06 | mentor | mii-tool? |
| 03:20.07 | cmanns | for some reason I think the onboard nic started being inuse (it drops packets n such) |
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| 03:20.19 | cmanns | I have eth0 eth1 (active) eth2 |
| 03:20.22 | wedge | mii-tool is your friend |
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| 03:20.52 | cmanns | SIOCGMIIPHY on 'eth2' failed: No such device |
| 03:21.00 | cmanns | The problem is I canno't bring up another nic |
| 03:21.10 | cmanns | On this box if I adjust anything with the networking it locks up :P |
| 03:21.17 | wedge | cmanns: it's not configurated in /etc/networking/interfaces ? |
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| 03:21.41 | wedge | I mean /etc/network/interfaces |
| 03:22.08 | cmanns | no eth1 is |
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| 03:22.28 | cmanns | im thinking bout just changing network/interfaces file from eth1 to eth2 |
| 03:22.29 | shyam | was trying to format a virus affected usb thumb drive, and i tried it with fdisk. It has only one FAT32 partitions, now even if I delete that partition, its not getting affected in the disk, and i can't see any error messages for fdisk too.. |
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| 03:22.52 | shyam | s/partitions/partition/ |
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| 03:23.35 | shyam | i did it like, fdisk /dev/sdb and i got the prompt, p to print the table, d to delete that partition and w to save and exit.. |
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| 03:23.44 | shyam | isn't that the way to do it? |
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| 03:24.47 | onex | hi |
| 03:24.52 | jolts | shyam: you could always try dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/sdb, that would write zeroes to the stick and overwriting the data on it, /dev/sdb being the dev of usb |
| 03:25.45 | wedge | shred /dev/sdb :P |
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| 03:25.59 | Ace2017_- | isn't null faster? |
| 03:26.09 | wedge | null is faster but the virus may survive! |
| 03:26.15 | wedge | clearly you need shred |
| 03:26.18 | K`zan | This is probably seems a silly question, but just having installed deb5 from the netinst kde iso, how do I figure out if it installed 32 or 64 bit stuff? |
| 03:26.20 | cmanns | Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:14:D1:14:BF:83 |
| 03:26.27 | cmanns | Does that mean eth2 has a ethernet cable pluged in? |
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| 03:27.05 | enouf | !70 |
| 03:27.06 | dpkg | As of version 0.090, udev has the ability to statically rename ethernet cards based on MAC address. The addresses are configured in /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules . If you want the mappings to change, edit that file. See <forcedeth mac>. As of version 0.124-1 the file is called /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules . |
| 03:27.31 | Ace2017_- | K`zan: uname -r |
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| 03:28.06 | nsadmin | how would I go about getting 2.6.28 to be a dom0? |
| 03:28.10 | enouf | ethtool can tell you link status |
| 03:28.24 | enouf | K`zan: file /bin/ls |
| 03:28.24 | K`zan | Ace2017_-: I think that just tells the kernel - I did compile one for the amd64, but the original was for a PII IIRC. |
| 03:28.35 | cmanns | Oh ty enouf |
| 03:28.41 | enouf | K`zan: but really - the ISO will tell you |
| 03:28.48 | cmanns | So if I just changed eth1 to eth2 and rebooted the server it'd probably come back fine eh? |
| 03:28.55 | dihymo | ok so no one has the glibc 2.8 debs... |
| 03:29.06 | K`zan | enouf: 32 bit, thanks! That probably explains why vmware fails :). |
| 03:29.19 | dihymo | and when is debian getting the newer kernels? |
| 03:29.26 | nsadmin | if youwant something akin to uname =r but more verbose, try cat /proc/version |
| 03:29.28 | cmanns | http://rafb.net/p/RUXaO179.html thats what I got currently |
| 03:29.28 | K`zan | Maybe not :-/. |
| 03:29.40 | enouf | cmanns: i can't say - i have no way of knowing |
| 03:30.02 | cmanns | Wow lenny was released? |
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| 03:30.19 | enouf | K`zan: dpkg --print-architecture |
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| 03:30.51 | K`zan | enouf: Filed that in my notes, thanks VERY much Sir! |
| 03:30.57 | enouf | K`zan: file output shows you userland, uname -r (cat /proc/version, et al) shows kerneland |
| 03:30.58 | Ace2017_- | nsadmin: mine shows Debian 4.1.2-24, but i use sid, shouldn't it update? |
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| 03:32.28 | enouf | Ace2017_-: wait a few days - what is that from? |
| 03:32.30 | SpeedyG | hey, now i'm looking for a way to extract all links in a .html file (or just any random .txt file) the file itself is like one big line of text, what I want is to get all the parts between 'http://' and the first '/' char, anyone know a good way to do this? |
| 03:32.42 | enouf | Ace2017_-: that's the gcc version |
| 03:33.09 | enouf | and it's an older kernel - even lenny is now on 4.3.x |
| 03:33.25 | wedge | SpeedyG: is that a debian question? |
| 03:33.32 | wedge | I think that's more of a perl question |
| 03:33.37 | enouf | Ace2017_-: don't show only snippits of a command |
| 03:33.41 | wedge | perl has a few packages to crawl html files for that.. |
| 03:33.52 | SpeedyG | wedge: I'd like to do it with as much as possible default debian tools (on a clean install) |
| 03:34.08 | Ace2017_- | enouf: ok Linux version 2.6.26-1-amd64 (Debian 2.6.26-12) (waldi@debian.org) (gcc version 4.1.3 20080704 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.2-24)) #1 SMP Mon Dec 15 17:25:36 UTC 2008 |
| 03:34.10 | enouf | !info xml2 |
| 03:34.29 | shyam | jolts: I got this as output of dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/sdb ### says endl ...0+0 records in ### 0+0 records out ### 0 bytes (0 B) copied, 2.3049e-05 s, 0.0 kB/s |
| 03:34.38 | shyam | now trying shred.. |
| 03:34.40 | cmanns | Anybody dist-upgrade from etch -> lenny? Any benefits? All this box runs is mysqld lol |
| 03:34.48 | enouf | Ace2017_-: righto - and what i said, still stands |
| 03:34.49 | shyam | but virus is one that affects m$ only.. |
| 03:34.53 | dpkg | xml2: (Convert between XML, HTML, CSV and a line-oriented format), section utils, is optional. Version: 0.4-2 (sid), Packaged size: 12 kB, Installed size: 44 kB |
| 03:34.58 | wedge | cmanns: new version of mysql |
| 03:35.09 | cmanns | I build mysql myself |
| 03:35.10 | wedge | cmanns: you may have use for some new functions of that version |
| 03:35.13 | wedge | ah, then no |
| 03:35.18 | cmanns | ah |
| 03:35.23 | shyam | i just wanted to have it freshly formated to fat32..but formating isn't making effect.. |
| 03:35.40 | cmanns | yeah for somereason I got into building mysql myself, seems to run better :/ |
| 03:35.43 | Ace2017_- | enouf: will i ever need to upgrade the kernel? is any userland things heavily tied to the kernel? |
| 03:35.48 | enouf | SpeedyG: if not perl, try this; http://ofb.net/~egnor/xml2/examples sed is the wrong tool for that IMO |
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| 03:36.06 | enouf | Ace2017_-: ever? |
| 03:37.28 | Ace2017_- | well is anything so heavily dependent the kernel that i can't keep using it for about a year? |
| 03:37.29 | shyam | while trying to delete things on this usb thumb drive as root, it says its a read only file system. Even after i re mount it with -w :( |
| 03:37.47 | enouf | Ace2017_-: apt-get install linux-image-2.6-amd64 ; done ; but if you mean ABI compatibility, that's hardly ever an issue |
| 03:38.03 | cmanns | wth is this haha, 99% [Waiting for headers] [Waiting for headers] |
| 03:38.07 | shyam | wedge: shred gives this message and continues writing shred: /dev/sdb: fdatasync failed: Input/output error |
| 03:38.09 | nsadmin | cmanns how can you tell better or worse without looking at the logs? |
| 03:38.25 | dee25 | i have etch debian in order to upgrade |
| 03:38.29 | nsadmin | cmanns: networking may be down |
| 03:38.34 | cmanns | ah |
| 03:38.39 | dee25 | do u need the cd to install it or no? |
| 03:38.39 | cmanns | After a bit it finishes |
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| 03:38.55 | cmanns | nsadmin, lower cpu usage n such |
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| 03:39.01 | nsadmin | dee25: if you have debian etch now you can just upgrade |
| 03:39.07 | Ace2017_- | ok i'll keep it for a while |
| 03:39.10 | nsadmin | you want to do that? |
| 03:39.16 | dee25 | alright cool |
| 03:39.17 | dee25 | i did that |
| 03:39.28 | nsadmin | so you |
| 03:39.29 | enouf | Ace2017_-: beware - Security issues arise over time |
| 03:39.29 | dee25 | but im stuck at some prompt there |
| 03:39.37 | cmanns | http://rafb.net/p/uWO7Gj69.html |
| 03:39.42 | nsadmin | you did that? |
| 03:39.48 | enouf | Ace2017_-: /msg dpkg security |
| 03:39.53 | nsadmin | wjat prompt? |
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| 03:39.58 | cmanns | thats been happening to me alot recently, then I run apt-get update again and it solves it, now it wont :( |
| 03:40.15 | nsadmin | does it say why? |
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| 03:40.35 | Ace2017_- | good point |
| 03:40.51 | cmanns | Well thats the output |
| 03:40.57 | nsadmin | lenny was just released |
| 03:41.12 | dee25 | i click the debian gun l;inux,kernel 2.6.26.1-686 |
| 03:41.15 | nsadmin | mirrors are probably stable again by now, but I dunno how long that takes |
| 03:41.20 | dee25 | click enter |
| 03:41.47 | AliTarihi | Hi! I want to know my current keyboard layout name to use it in a notification script. What should I do? |
| 03:41.53 | dee25 | and than i stay stuck at a black screen |
| 03:42.24 | dee25 | asking for me to type my login name and password |
| 03:42.54 | cmanns | Guess I'll wait to upgrade this box |
| 03:42.57 | nsadmin | dunno what that could be unless it rebooted |
| 03:42.59 | cmanns | Says it cant verify packages :X |
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| 03:43.38 | nsadmin | oh, you need the apt key for it (and I dunno which source you need the key(s) for) |
| 03:43.52 | cmanns | its saying the ones i got are invalid |
| 03:45.04 | Ace2017_- | dee25: so did startkde get you a desktop? |
| 03:45.52 | dee25 | noo |
| 03:46.04 | dee25 | says kperpersonallizer |
| 03:46.14 | dee25 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:47.15 | Ace2017_- | as root dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
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| 03:50.01 | cmanns | What would you guys suggest for sources.list on etch? |
| 03:50.26 | cmanns | I had some weird stuff in my sources.list, its over a year old too :/ |
| 03:51.16 | Ace2017_- | cmanns: the basic main contrib non-free, and debian-multimedia probably virtualbox too if you use it |
| 03:51.57 | mischief6 | anyone know why pure-ftpd-mysql might not be starting? the init.d script says it is starting, but nothing seems to happen. |
| 03:52.10 | cmanns | ah alrite |
| 03:52.55 | cmanns | Then is this okay to accept? http://rafb.net/p/tqyc4689.html |
| 03:53.31 | Ace2017_- | i don't think so |
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| 03:55.21 | Ace2017_- | argh, i compile lots and lots and lots and BAM! libc6 is updatd, now i have to recompile it all :( |
| 03:55.57 | mischief6 | apt-build ace? :) |
| 03:56.18 | Ace2017_- | i didn't use that, i need newer versions |
| 03:56.32 | mischief6 | ah. |
| 03:57.04 | Ace2017_- | do i really need to recompile if libc6 is updated? |
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| 04:01.52 | K`zan | sigh, I'm in the sudo group but when I try, it tells me i'm not in the sudoers file. In other linuxs I can sudo if I am in admin or wheel, what do I do in debian? TMIA |
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| 04:02.59 | Ace2017_- | K`zan: add yourself to /etc/sudoers |
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| 04:03.34 | Ace2017_- | username ALL=(ALL) ALL |
| 04:03.56 | Blackfoot | i understand that the bnx2 driver's firmware is separated, but the module itself is not building when using source linux-image-2.6.26-1-amd64, even though it seems to be in the linux-image-2.6.26-1-amd64 package |
| 04:04.08 | Ace2017_- | K`zan: or you can allow the sudo group to do it |
| 04:06.16 | Blackfoot | how do i compile such that the stripped module still gets built? |
| 04:07.44 | dee25 | i have windows vista and i have virtual box i just upgraded from etch to lenny |
| 04:07.56 | dee25 | i cant see the desktop graphical interface |
| 04:09.10 | K`zan | Ace2017_-: I am in group sudo and added myself to the file too. No idea yet. |
| 04:09.29 | K`zan | vw ALL=(ALL) ALL |
| 04:09.57 | Ace2017_- | why not uncomment # %sudo ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL so that the sudo group can use sudo? |
| 04:10.09 | Ace2017_- | also you need to logout and login again after adding yourself to a group |
| 04:10.45 | K`zan | Ace2017_-: Will do both, thanks MUCH! |
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| 04:13.51 | jmd | I have a cache 22 problem: When I run apt-get update I get an error message saying "... run apt-get update to correct these problems" |
| 04:14.41 | cmanns | I get that too lol |
| 04:14.57 | jmd | How can I fix it? |
| 04:15.09 | cmanns | no idea |
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| 04:15.18 | cmanns | I'm trying to update right now and its screwing up |
| 04:15.18 | cmanns | :( |
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| 04:24.47 | stoned | !errors |
| 04:24.47 | dpkg | if you don't tell us the exact error messages you get, we can't tell you what's wrong, and it's also useful to know exactly what command you're typing. Please look for the *first* error that occurs, as this is often the cause of later errors, or - ask me about <localized errors> too |
| 04:24.55 | stoned | word |
| 04:24.58 | stoned | carry on |
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| 04:28.48 | app4des | anyone knows how I can disable the gnome notification, that avahi can't be run on a local domain? |
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| 04:29.37 | cmanns | lol, switching ifaces on a remote server.... priceless |
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| 04:33.09 | gaintsura | how can I list all packages installed on my system? dpkg -L tells me I need to specify a package name |
| 04:35.08 | WEW | Windows Better debian |
| 04:35.10 | WEW | ) |
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| 04:37.41 | elmarian6 | hello |
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| 04:39.22 | dee25 | i just upgraded to lenny when i click the kernel and press enter |
| 04:39.42 | dee25 | it not showin the kde login screen or desktop |
| 04:40.05 | dee25 | just black screen asking for login and password and something about warranty |
| 04:40.21 | elmarian6 | you have kdm dissabled |
| 04:40.35 | pl4yer0ne | elmarian6, or its failing |
| 04:40.57 | pl4yer0ne | dee25, do you use the nvidia drivers or radeon? |
| 04:41.13 | pl4yer0ne | from www.nvidia.com is what i mean |
| 04:41.19 | elmarian6 | dee25, startx also fails ? |
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| 04:43.17 | dee25 | i dont have nvida |
| 04:43.20 | dee25 | i have intel |
| 04:43.34 | dee25 | everthing worked fine |
| 04:43.40 | dee25 | when i had etch |
| 04:43.45 | pl4yer0ne | yeah ok so its probably not the drivers then |
| 04:44.03 | dee25 | yeaa is nottt |
| 04:44.09 | elmarian6 | dee25, log in and then type startx |
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| 04:44.20 | dee25 | ok |
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| 04:44.59 | cafuego | Guerin: ping |
| 04:45.34 | cmanns | enouf, I guess just changing the number from eth1 to eth2 wasnt good enough lol |
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| 04:47.15 | qabby | ive got open ssh on my debian server that im having problems with... i can sign in remotely, but not on the same network.... can someone help me troubleshoot this |
| 04:47.37 | dee25 | fatal server error no screens found |
| 04:47.43 | dee25 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:47.51 | neosmatrix | hi all, could i force a user only to use a specific network ? I want to force to use the hamachi interface. |
| 04:47.58 | dee25 | to begin accecpting connections giving up |
| 04:48.15 | elmarian6 | dee25, as root, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 04:48.53 | qabby | the error im getting is "Network error: Connection refused" |
| 04:49.28 | pl4yer0ne | dee25, post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log to pastebin |
| 04:50.03 | gaintsura | how can I list all packages installed on my system? dpkg -L tells me I need to specify a package name |
| 04:50.38 | pl4yer0ne | gaintsura, use a lowercase l |
| 04:52.31 | cafuego | dpkg -l |
| 04:52.32 | dpkg | cafuego: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 04:52.41 | cafuego | gaintsura: dpkg -l |
| 04:52.49 | cafuego | dpkg: stupid bot |
| 04:52.49 | dpkg | no, stupid cafuego |
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| 04:54.31 | brian17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:54.46 | brian17 | lenny doesnt let me select my screen resolution in virtual box |
| 04:54.50 | brian17 | anyone have problems with this |
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| 04:56.45 | JordiGH | How can I tell aptitude to temporarily not autoremove unused packages? |
| 04:56.53 | mjbjr | so, how do I get yum to only update firefox and its updates? |
| 04:57.02 | mjbjr | adn it dependencies that it |
| 04:57.04 | mjbjr | and |
| 04:57.06 | cafuego | mjbjr: #troll is over there |
| 04:57.15 | mjbjr | huh? |
| 04:57.21 | cafuego | mjbjr: yum? On debian? |
| 04:57.23 | gaintsura | thanks all |
| 04:57.31 | mjbjr | ahhh |
| 04:57.40 | JordiGH | Hey, aptitude can do build-dep now. |
| 04:57.42 | JordiGH | Is that new? |
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| 04:58.43 | cafuego | JordiGH: it was there in etch, so my guess is "yes" ;-) |
| 04:58.48 | cafuego | s/was/wasn't/ |
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| 04:59.58 | JordiGH | Sweet. That was the only reason I used apt-get anymore. |
| 05:00.05 | K`zan | How does one set the icon size on the desktop. Ran the wizard and screwed it up, but re-running the wizard doesn't fix that, the icons are way too large. TMIA |
| 05:00.09 | dracflamloc | hopefully quick help question: how can i enable my intel wifi link 5100 wireless card in debian 5? |
| 05:00.10 | K`zan | kde |
| 05:00.13 | K`zan | deb5 |
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| 05:00.32 | cafuego | JordiGH: I had aliases apt-get to aptitude, but it was indeed very irritating for build-deps. |
| 05:00.54 | cafuego | dracflamloc: Annoyingly, with a lot of effort. |
| 05:01.10 | dracflamloc | =( |
| 05:01.25 | cafuego | dracflamloc: The driver is not in the shipped kernel, and the experimental kernel that has it refuses to boot (on my etch laptop anyway) |
| 05:01.44 | cafuego | dracflamloc: Best bet would be to compile a 2.6.28 kernel and simply grab the needed firmware files. |
| 05:01.47 | dracflamloc | i'm using lenny, would that help? |
| 05:01.51 | liable | dont intel have a git repo for it, like they usually do? |
| 05:02.07 | cafuego | dracflamloc: No, it's not in the lenny .26 kernel. |
| 05:02.31 | dracflamloc | dang |
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| 05:03.02 | cafuego | liable: maybe... but since it got merged in .28 i'd go with a Linux kernel, tbh |
| 05:03.20 | dracflamloc | hm |
| 05:03.25 | dracflamloc | k i think i found a guide |
| 05:03.31 | dracflamloc | http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Intel_WiFi_Link_5100/5300_WLAN_controller#Debian_with_kernel_2.6.28 |
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| 05:04.16 | cafuego | dracflamloc: That's what I used; the 2.6.28-1-amd64 kernel doesn't boot; hard locks... if you run i386 you might have more luck I suppose |
| 05:04.28 | dracflamloc | dang ok ill try |
| 05:04.44 | brutus | I am running a game setup which is asking to insert disc 2....where and how should I mount this? |
| 05:05.14 | brutus | I have the disk 2 iso file |
| 05:05.53 | nsadmin | wht about disk 1? |
| 05:05.55 | neil_d | I am trying to get ecryptfs to work, but it doesn't appear to be working, I get the error message in syslog saying "Error initializing key module" can anyone help? |
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| 05:06.43 | brad_ | why is mysql-server-4.1 downloading mysql-server-5.0 ? |
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| 05:07.28 | brad_ | the command is apt-get install mysql-server-4.1 |
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| 05:08.02 | brutus | nsadmin, I mounted disk 1 onto /media/cdrom...installed a part of the game....now its asking for disk 2...i unmounted disk1 and mounted disk 2 onto the same /media/cdrom but it doesn't seem to recognize it |
| 05:08.59 | dracflamloc | cafuego: ok im gonna try it out. be back soon (i hope) |
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| 05:12.07 | jessie | What's the setting for named.local.options that allows the server to update slaves? |
| 05:12.07 | jessie | notify {ip;}; |
| 05:12.07 | jessie | ? |
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| 05:12.13 | jessie | This is in bind |
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| 05:12.25 | dracflamloc | cafuego: worked for me i686 kernel =) |
| 05:12.28 | cafuego | brad_: it knows you shouldn't be using 4.1 |
| 05:12.33 | cafuego | dracflamloc: nice one :-) |
| 05:12.36 | dracflamloc | of course it broke my nvidia drivers |
| 05:13.07 | cafuego | luckily has intel gfx |
| 05:13.28 | cafuego | jessie: notify yes; |
| 05:13.44 | cafuego | jessie: And then per-zone you add a slaves { ip; }; section |
| 05:14.11 | cafuego | jessie: /me isn't sure that slaves can go in the global scope |
| 05:14.32 | jessie | cafuego: Awesome! That seems to have worked. Thanks! |
| 05:14.35 | brad_ | I have software the depends on 4.1 |
| 05:14.38 | dracflamloc | hm |
| 05:14.47 | cafuego | brad_: eww :-( |
| 05:15.12 | brad_ | yea, and they want me to convert to red hat as well |
| 05:15.14 | cafuego | Why would that need 4.1 and not work with 5.0? |
| 05:15.21 | dracflamloc | uhoh |
| 05:15.22 | dracflamloc | linux-headers-2.6.28-1-686: |
| 05:15.22 | dracflamloc | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:16.07 | brad_ | i asked them the same thing, but the tech support dude replyed in broken english he did not know why |
| 05:16.16 | jair | guys I am trying to prepare a usb drive with businesscard debian etch and I can't I get this message: -su: /usr/lib/syslinux/mbr.bin: Permission denied |
| 05:16.27 | nsadmin | dracflamloc: isn't that in experimental |
| 05:16.40 | pickcoder | probably libc6 dependancies, though compat is available |
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| 05:16.52 | jair | I am trying to put the mbr.bin in the usb drive but this is the first time I see an error like this... |
| 05:16.57 | dihymo | anyone have libc 2.8 (amd64)? libc-i386 2.8 libc-dev 2.8 and locales 2.8? |
| 05:16.57 | cafuego | brad_: See if you can make a fake mysql-server-4.1 package using `equivs' to make it shutup :-) |
| 05:17.09 | dee25 | are u in root? |
| 05:17.16 | dee25 | jair |
| 05:17.18 | jair | I am running that command as root and I am getting an error -su: /usr/lib/syslinux/mbr.bin: Permission denied how can i have a denied if I am root |
| 05:17.20 | dihymo | 2.9 screws up dns |
| 05:17.24 | jair | dee25: yes I am |
| 05:17.36 | dee25 | ooo |
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| 05:17.45 | jair | dee25: hagdala:~# /usr/lib/syslinux/mbr.bin > /dev/sdb |
| 05:17.55 | jair | dee25: that is the command I am running |
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| 05:18.33 | jair | I am really confuse this time |
| 05:18.34 | brad_ | cafuego: i have no idea, what that means, but I'll do it |
| 05:18.41 | cafuego | jair: Hint: /usr/lib/syslinux/mbr.bin is not an executable file. |
| 05:19.01 | cafuego | brad_: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-helpers.en.html |
| 05:19.42 | cafuego | brad_: http://blog.andrewbeacock.com/2005/09/creating-dummy-debian-package-for.html |
| 05:19.58 | cafuego | brad_: Basically it makes a fake package |
| 05:20.54 | cafuego | jair: if you want to write that file to the boot sector of sdb, you need to use `dd' => dd if=/usr/lib/syslinux/mbr.bin of=/dev/sdb |
| 05:21.05 | cafuego | jair: If you get it wrong, you'll destroy all data on sdb |
| 05:21.32 | jair | cafuego: that is fine the usb drive is empty |
| 05:22.10 | jair | cafuego: let me try that, should I do the exact command you put on the channel? |
| 05:22.15 | cafuego | yep |
| 05:22.23 | cafuego | dd if=/usr/lib/syslinux/mbr.bin of=/dev/sdb\ |
| 05:22.32 | jair | ok I will try that right now |
| 05:22.34 | cafuego | writes /usr/lib/syslinux/mbr.bin to the raw disk device |
| 05:22.34 | neosmatrix | hi I am searching for a tool to bind an ip to a programm. Does this exists for linux: http://www.r1ch.net/stuff/forcebindip/ ? |
| 05:22.52 | jair | done |
| 05:22.56 | jair | :) |
| 05:23.16 | cafuego | neosmatrix: Virtually all network services on Linux allow you to specify one or more interface to bind to. |
| 05:23.24 | cafuego | neosmatrix: Without needing ugly hacks. |
| 05:23.33 | jair | it looks like i got a couple of lines like this => 0+1 records in 0+1 records out and 304 bytes (304 B) copied, 0.0065502 seconds, 46.4 kB/s |
| 05:23.38 | jair | cafuego: Thank you |
| 05:24.07 | cafuego | jair: np |
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| 05:24.51 | neosmatrix | cafuego: could you give me a hint where to search for a howto ? :) |
| 05:25.02 | pickcoder | neosmatrix: that is part of the unix sockets library |
| 05:25.10 | cafuego | neosmatrix: Oh hold on, you're talking about auser app? |
| 05:25.17 | cafuego | neosmatrix: like firefox? |
| 05:25.23 | pickcoder | the application should support it natively if it's configured properly |
| 05:25.32 | pickcoder | s/configured/written |
| 05:25.40 | neosmatrix | cafuego: yeah or like wine :) |
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| 05:28.07 | cafuego | http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Networking/fixsrcip-12301.shtml |
| 05:29.16 | neosmatrix | cafuego: yeah thx - this it is i think. will try it |
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| 05:34.04 | jair | I should be able of put businesscard etch on a usb 512MB right? |
| 05:34.54 | pickcoder | jair: the netinstall would probably fit on a 512MB drive |
| 05:35.17 | pickcoder | so, yeah |
| 05:35.24 | jair | pickcoder: I am trying to put any of them but I am having hard time preparing the usb drive :( |
| 05:35.49 | jair | pickcoder: I am trying first with the businesscard make sure it fits |
| 05:35.52 | pickcoder | I used an HP boot-key tool in Windows to prep my drive once. I've never done it in Linux. |
| 05:36.08 | jair | pickcoder: I am doing it in linux |
| 05:36.10 | jair | :) |
| 05:36.11 | pickcoder | no need to with stacks of CDs |
| 05:36.12 | pickcoder | :) |
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| 05:36.48 | jair | well i really like to have the usb drive more practical and I do not need the cdrom media in my desktops |
| 05:37.10 | brutus | How do I make a game setup detect that a CD is inserted when I mount an iso on a certain folder? |
| 05:37.14 | jair | at least on this desktop I am trying to work on. I do not have blanks cds at the moment |
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| 05:41.45 | enouf | brutus: try loop mounting the iso |
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| 05:44.01 | pickcoder | jair: http://numpanglewat.wordpress.com/2009/01/23/installing-debian-lenny-from-a-usb-memory-stick-usb-hdd/ |
| 05:44.21 | brutus | enouf, I did mount the iso with the -o loop flag onto /media/cdrom....but the game setup still isn't recognizing it... |
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| 05:46.29 | BirdInTux | I am trying to figure out how to get access to my storage drive and windows drive through debian |
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| 05:46.58 | JordiGH | Stupid question. I just realised I don't know what's the point of giving a codename to unstable. |
| 05:47.16 | matt7676 | hi! How to make while script, which does something with every file in a folder, renames those old files and creates new ones into the same folder? |
| 05:47.32 | enouf | brutus: maybe you need WINE stuff? or do you mean like alcohol 120? you might want cdemu, or something |
| 05:47.39 | libre | anyone using xmonad window manager here plz? i just installed it and when i log in and press (alt+shift+return) nothing happens. |
| 05:47.47 | JordiGH | I mean, the other codenames can either mean "testing, stable, oldstable" or obsolete... but sid is always unstable, so why the codename? |
| 05:48.09 | JordiGH | matt7676: Ask in #bash |
| 05:48.20 | craigevil | sid is the little boy that breaks his toys |
| 05:48.45 | BirdInTux | how would i go about that |
| 05:48.45 | enouf | JordiGH: your logic is backwards to me |
| 05:48.52 | matt7676 | JordiGH: ok, I will. Thanks! |
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| 05:49.15 | brutus | enouf, I used cedega to run setup.exe on the first iso...after the game install partly it asked for the second disc to be inserted....now how do I telll the setup that I have mounted the disc onto so-and-so folder? |
| 05:49.27 | enouf | BirdInTux: huh? |
| 05:49.31 | JordiGH | enouf: I mean, eh, codenames are useful because you can refer to a distro without referring to its current state in the release cycle, but there's no need to make that distinction with sid. |
| 05:49.44 | BirdInTux | I wanted to know how to access my storage drive and windows driver through debian |
| 05:49.47 | jair | pickcoder: Thank you i will take a look at the link, so far I am trying using the instructions for the dsl linux |
| 05:49.53 | BirdInTux | whenever i try it says i dont have access |
| 05:50.05 | BirdInTux | but i know it can be done cause iv done it in fedora |
| 05:50.17 | JordiGH | craigevil: I think that shaved doll head with the spider legs should be the experimental distro. :-) |
| 05:50.17 | enouf | brutus: crap - i dunno - never had to do that - ask maybe in ##linux or something |
| 05:50.34 | jair | pickcoder: Thank you again |
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| 05:50.55 | pickcoder | Google ftw |
| 05:51.03 | enouf | JordiGH: to me it only makes sense to have a name for a /release/ that stays put, like sid |
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| 05:51.18 | JordiGH | but sid is anything but put! |
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| 05:51.35 | enouf | JordiGH: i mean PUT as in ALWAYS the unstable one |
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| 05:51.51 | enouf | you can NOT confuse it's state - ever |
| 05:52.05 | enouf | it's always the unstable /version/ |
| 05:52.30 | JordiGH | enouf: I just hosed someone's system.. because I pinned their system to testing instead of lenny, and I also had unstable sources in their sources.list |
| 05:52.49 | JordiGH | enouf: Suddenly, testing doesn't exist anymore! What does apt do? Why, upgrade to unstable, of course. |
| 05:52.53 | brad_ | I'm getting this error when running equivs-build http://pastebin.com/m261bfea7 |
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| 05:53.06 | BirdInTux | perhaps if i was to get a good window manager it would allow it |
| 05:53.09 | JordiGH | enouf: This booboo of mine is what's prompting the musings on codenames. |
| 05:53.12 | jmd | JordiGH, testing always exists. |
| 05:53.13 | enouf | JordiGH: so you goofed - and now you wan the whole world to change? |
| 05:53.21 | brutus | enouf, No luck there too...anyways thanks for the help |
| 05:53.29 | enouf | stop typing so f*ken fast dammit |
| 05:53.36 | JordiGH | jmd: It didn't exist according to apt because sources.list pointed to lenny but apt.conf pointed to testing. |
| 05:53.37 | BirdInTux | what is considered to be the best or most popular window manager i guess |
| 05:54.13 | JordiGH | enouf: Oh, no, I don't want anyone to change. I just suddenly realised, "ah, that's why we have codenames", but then I thought, "wait a minute, why do we have a codename for sid?" |
| 05:54.28 | libre | anyone using xmonad here plz? |
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| 05:54.41 | JordiGH | enouf: Oh, am I typing fast? |
| 05:55.27 | enouf | JordiGH: maybe i'm saying it wrong ; try this; To me, Testing and Stable do not and should not have/use codenames - there's no need - It only makes sense to have one for Unstable because when one thinks of Sid , one immediately thinks; Unstable! |
| 05:56.09 | JordiGH | enouf: But the point of codenames is this, "I want to track this distro, no matter where it is in the release cycle". |
| 05:56.49 | JordiGH | enouf: In this sense, codenames track the more stable part, because they track the collection of software that changes the least. |
| 05:56.55 | enouf | JordiGH: really? that's silly |
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| 05:57.26 | JordiGH | Wow, that was weird... |
| 05:57.37 | enouf | One should Always want the Stable release if they truly need Debian for critical things |
| 05:57.53 | craigevil | enouf: thats no fun :) |
| 05:58.00 | JordiGH | I restarted the network for a machine into which I was sshed into, and my connection stalled for a few seconds, but I stayed connected. |
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| 05:58.16 | enouf | if it's not critical, and you can't follow a once-every ~2yr B;Day, you have no business using Debian ;-) |
| 05:58.32 | enouf | craigevil: shhh |
| 05:58.36 | enouf | :-P |
| 05:58.55 | JordiGH | enouf: sometimes you want to track testing, you're happy with it, and you want to stick with it when it becomes stable, y'know. This is reminding me of the Eulerian vs the Lagrangian formulation of fluid dynamics, do you want a window on the fluid, or do you want to move with the fluid? ;-) |
| 05:58.56 | craigevil | although sid is being a pain with all the new packages moving in |
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| 05:59.21 | JordiGH | craigevil: Time to remove experimental from sources.list? |
| 05:59.42 | craigevil | nah time to pull somethings from exp, like apt-listbugs if its there |
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| 05:59.53 | dracflamloc | man this is killing me |
| 06:00.00 | enouf | right |
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| 06:00.24 | dracflamloc | can anyone give me a step by step on installing nvidia gfx drivers in debian 5, with kernel 2.6.28? |
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| 06:00.47 | JordiGH | How did you even get a 2.6.28 linux? |
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| 06:01.07 | JordiGH | Is it packaged now? |
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| 06:01.11 | dracflamloc | http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Intel_WiFi_Link_5100/5300_WLAN_controller#Debian_with_kernel_2.6.28 |
| 06:01.13 | craigevil | 2.6.28 is in the new queue |
| 06:01.27 | dracflamloc | new queue? |
| 06:01.28 | enouf | !trunk kernel |
| 06:01.28 | dpkg | Visit http://wiki.debian.org/DebianKernel for information on installing the kernel team's latest experimental kernels. Also visit #debian-kernel on irc.debian.org for more information on these kernels. See http://wiki.debian.org/HowToRebuildAnOfficialDebianKernelPackage or ask me about <kernel package>. |
| 06:01.36 | JordiGH | Gotta keep the ftpmasters busy, I guess. |
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| 06:02.59 | enouf | JordiGH: and .. i need to correct something you said; "because they track the collection of software that changes the least." <== is totally wrong |
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| 06:03.14 | JordiGH | enouf: That changes the slowliest? |
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| 06:03.27 | enouf | JordiGH: that would be potato or ham or even sarge at this point ;-) |
| 06:03.41 | dee25 | is it necessary |
| 06:03.50 | dee25 | to use a net-work mirror |
| 06:03.56 | enouf | JordiGH: however, the one that is Updated and Maintained is Stable |
| 06:03.57 | dee25 | in the debian installation? |
| 06:04.15 | liable | dee25: depends on what you want to install, and what cd you have |
| 06:04.17 | enouf | JordiGH: Testing pkgs sometimes get removed, dropped , sent back up to sid, etc |
| 06:04.35 | dee25 | i have debian |
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| 06:04.36 | JordiGH | enouf: It's like... first software flows in through unstable, changing rapidly... then it flows into current testing, changing only by trickling down through unstable... then freezes, no more trickling except manual, then released, only changes for security updates, then oldstable, doesn't change anymore. |
| 06:04.38 | dee25 | 5.0 lenny |
| 06:04.51 | liable | dee25: dont use the enter key so much |
| 06:04.59 | liable | dee25: which cd? |
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| 06:05.13 | JordiGH | Now I'm just philosophisiing. |
| 06:05.15 | dee25 | debian |
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| 06:05.50 | liable | dee25: there is about 20 different installer cd's which one did you download? |
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| 06:05.57 | dee25 | i dl |
| 06:06.10 | liable | feels like pulling teeth |
| 06:06.10 | dee25 | the debian 5.0 xfce+lkdx |
| 06:06.33 | liable | dee25: ok, then if you want xfce or lxde, you dont need a net connection |
| 06:07.14 | nsadmin | dee25: you had etch before... you didn't just upgrade? |
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| 06:07.24 | craigevil | the installer still wants to download 400mb of packages/updates or it did when i installed lxde in virtualbox |
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| 06:08.07 | dee25 | i did upgrade but was acting stupid so wanna see wat happens |
| 06:08.12 | dee25 | when i do it from a cd |
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| 06:13.46 | BubbaT | I want to do a netinstall of debian with the initial part of the install from a USB stick. This computer is only running XP at the moment. How would I go about doing that? |
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| 06:14.20 | SunnyDP | bubbat: you want to end up dual booting? |
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| 06:15.36 | BubbaT | Sorry. This is not the computer I am going to instal on. |
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| 06:16.26 | BubbaT | So I want to use this computer to make the stick that does the initial part of a netinstall. |
| 06:16.38 | enouf | dee25: just do either an alongside install into another partition or debootstrap? leave existing alone and upgrade it? |
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| 06:17.47 | enouf | BubbaT: how about you boot that computer to a livecd ;-) |
| 06:18.10 | enouf | then do /msg dpkg usb install |
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| 06:24.14 | dee25 | i have vista installed and im using virtual box and im install debian |
| 06:24.35 | dee25 | should i installed the grub loader to the master boot record yes or no? |
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| 06:26.03 | simonrvn | yes |
| 06:26.24 | simonrvn | os-prober + grub can set it up so you can dual boot. |
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| 06:26.43 | BenB | any idea where this comes from? mail: "/etc/cron.daily/man-db: /usr/bin/mandb: can't write to /var/cache/man/15343: No space left on device ...", but : df -h /var/cache/man/ ... Avail 1,7G |
| 06:27.10 | simonrvn | that cron.daily file .... |
| 06:27.14 | dee25 | thanks |
| 06:27.17 | BubbaT | enouf, I guess the question comes down to how can I install the boot image to a USB stick from XP. |
| 06:27.42 | simonrvn | BenB: df -i (inodes). what does that say? |
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| 06:28.36 | BenB | simonrvn: IFree 285043 |
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| 06:28.53 | enouf | BubbaT: there are ways |
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| 06:29.14 | enouf | IINM the cd1 has some windows tools on it to help |
| 06:29.30 | enouf | BubbaT: you've checked the Install guide? |
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| 06:30.28 | enouf | BubbaT: might be even easier, if the target PC has networking, you could use http://goodbye-windows.com and forget the usb install |
| 06:30.56 | Guerin | cafuego: pong |
| 06:31.07 | liable | BubbaT: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/HowTo/Install#head-40ba0aa18d7eeb7a7ebe9e151fd2d87d0a7acf1d |
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| 06:31.25 | enouf | BenB: i recently also saw a similar message when upgrading, don't worry about it |
| 06:31.30 | BubbaT | enouf, the install guide only describes how to do it from Linux. |
| 06:32.17 | BenB | enouf: I got it the second time already. are you getting the same (for man-db)? maybe that's a bug? |
| 06:32.53 | BenB | enouf: being out of disk space (esp. on a mail server) definitely wouldn't be fun. |
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| 06:36.11 | enouf | BenB: my message had to do with man-db and some ruby..version.gz file IIRC, -- said something about the description line for which or apropos was longer than 1024 chars or something -- i think i ran man afterwards on it, and it said, not found |
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| 06:40.09 | BenB | enouf: that's quite different from "No space left on device", though, no? |
| 06:42.50 | enouf | BenB: well ... yeah, but mine was printed to stdout, no mail - i'm not saying there's no bug .. just noticed your message looked very familiar, and it's pissing me off, because i know there some info in ONE of my frigging terminal's backscroll buffer, but it's so much to scan through |
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| 06:45.45 | enouf | BenB: i blamed mine on the fact i was doing a compile while updating/upgrading and had many other things streaming, and thought of it as a "glitch" only .. but, i guess maybe yours is different |
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| 06:47.25 | enouf | BenB: note, my / partition which contains /var and all others is 96% full (if that matters) |
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| 06:48.23 | enouf | Filesystem Type Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on |
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| 06:48.26 | enouf | /dev/hdd1 ext3 8.0G 7.3G 349M 96% / |
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| 06:49.10 | BenB | enouf: you'd be well advised to make more space :) |
| 06:49.27 | enouf | naturally though, with ext3 defaults there's still free blocks reserved for / even when 100% is hit :-P |
| 06:49.48 | enouf | BenB: oh .. i have plenty of space on other drives that i use ;-) |
| 06:50.03 | BenB | enouf: yeah, just move stuff |
| 06:50.19 | enouf | BenB: but yeah - it is time to ditch this old and loud disk |
| 06:50.41 | BenB | oh, that's an 8G disk? |
| 06:51.03 | BenB | I thought it was just a partition. |
| 06:51.06 | enouf | 8.4/9.1 depending how you count :-P |
| 06:51.11 | matt7676 | hello, is there a some irc channel for indepht linux networking? |
| 06:51.12 | BenB | that must be 10 years old |
| 06:51.25 | enouf | 400M is swap hdd2 |
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| 06:51.31 | BenB | matt7676: linux-kernel mailing list |
| 06:51.32 | enouf | yep |
| 06:51.46 | BenB | matt7676: eh, nevermind |
| 06:52.02 | matt7676 | BenB: but is it open for everyone? |
| 06:52.13 | enouf | matt7676: ##networking ? |
| 06:52.20 | BenB | matt7676: it's only for kernel programmers |
| 06:52.25 | enouf | matt7676: is there a #lartc ? |
| 06:52.45 | matt7676 | BenB: what is a #lartc? |
| 06:52.57 | matt7676 | sorry, enouf |
| 06:53.06 | simonrvn | it's a channel on irc... |
| 06:53.11 | enouf | !google lartc |
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| 06:53.28 | enouf | !google define:lartc |
| 06:53.37 | enouf | !ping |
| 06:53.38 | dpkg | pong |
| 06:53.41 | enouf | :0 |
| 06:53.42 | matt7676 | ok, thanks :) |
| 06:53.47 | simonrvn | !search google for lartc |
| 06:53.59 | simonrvn | !search lartc |
| 06:54.03 | simonrvn | hmmm |
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| 06:54.23 | BenB | thanks, guys |
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| 06:54.27 | simonrvn | fuck |
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| 06:54.54 | enouf | heh |
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| 06:56.23 | kithylin | is deabian still on etch? or do i have to get a new install disc? |
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| 06:57.53 | enouf | you could upgrade to lenny |
| 06:58.07 | enouf | see /topic |
| 06:58.12 | kithylin | nah |
| 06:58.18 | kithylin | gonna do a new install to test some hard drives |
| 06:58.44 | kithylin | lenny it is, is there a netinst for 700m cd-r? |
| 06:59.13 | enouf | !lenny netinstall |
| 06:59.14 | dpkg | There are a myriad different ways to install Debian. See http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer for a list of images. Ask me about <install guide> and <d-i> for detailed instructions. (If you've never installed Debian before, you should read the install guide.) |
| 06:59.34 | kithylin | you know this channel is the least helpful place on the internet for debian information |
| 06:59.40 | enouf | yep |
| 06:59.47 | enouf | but only to you |
| 07:00.09 | enouf | !netinstall |
| 07:00.10 | dpkg | it has been said that netinst is a small CD or set of floppy images which installs Debian using an Internet connection, but which is not required for a base install to complete, see http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ If you use a dialup connection, ask me about <dialup install>. <netboot miniiso>, or ask me about <check iso image> |
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| 07:00.36 | amphi | heh, I misread that as '700mm cd-r' |
| 07:00.43 | enouf | O_o |
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| 07:01.14 | amphi | one of the large ones ;) |
| 07:01.33 | enouf | amphi: doubles as a satellite dish :-P |
| 07:01.48 | amphi | heh |
| 07:02.17 | amphi | it's not yet light here, and insufficient coffee has been ingested |
| 07:02.25 | simonrvn | BTW, i suggest to drop this fucker at the door: invest-pool.ru : 62.109.4.89 -- he was trying to make DNS requests here, but at a really mad rate, last count was 40 connections at once. it's stopped now, but this fucker at the door. |
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| 07:03.19 | BirdInTux | is there a apt command for java and flash etc plug ins |
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| 07:04.38 | enouf | !install java |
| 07:04.38 | dpkg | For the java plugin install either the icedtea-gcjwebplugin (free) plugin or the sun-java6-plugin (<non-free>). For other java programs (lenny onwards), you can install the default-jre package to get install a java runtime, or "apt-cache search java-virtual-machine" to see other implementations. The best options are probably openjdk-6-jre or sun-java-6-jre. Also ask me about <install java etch>. |
| 07:04.44 | enouf | !install flash |
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| 07:04.58 | enouf | !adobe flash |
| 07:04.59 | dpkg | Adobe Flash Player is non-free and cannot be in a stable debian release because Adobe doesn't provide security support for older versions (see http://bugs.debian.org/457291). The easist way to install flash is with the flashplayer-mozilla package from debian-multimedia.org; there is also a flashplugin-nonfree package for sid and backports.org users. Ask me about <dmm> <non-free> <bpo> <flash64beta> http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer |
| 07:05.48 | enouf | BirdInTux: note; update-java-alernatives once installed |
| 07:05.55 | enouf | BirdInTux: note; update-java-alternatives once installed |
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| 07:06.15 | BirdInTux | ty |
| 07:08.04 | simeon_ | does anyone know if there is a way to flush the disk read cache on linux? |
| 07:09.15 | enouf | simeon_: echo N /proc/sys/vm/flush_caches , iirc |
| 07:09.36 | enouf | simeon_: er echo N > /proc/sys/vm/flush_caches , iirc - where N is 0 1 2 or 3 ? |
| 07:09.41 | enouf | man proc |
| 07:09.51 | simeon_ | enouf: cool |
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| 07:09.57 | simeon_ | enouf: thanks |
| 07:10.54 | SunnyDP | How do i get avereag |
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| 07:11.10 | SunnyDP | sorry How do i get average sent and received packets ? |
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| 07:11.43 | Guerin | SunnyDP: ntop? |
| 07:12.13 | enouf | simeon_: http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.26/Documentation/filesystems/proc.txt#L1539 it's drop_caches |
| 07:12.34 | SunnyDP | Guerin: nothing out the box ? |
| 07:12.57 | SunnyDP | Guerin: thats a cool nickname brother! like the bookstore in quebec, canada. |
| 07:13.12 | Guerin | SunnyDP: i don't know, I habitually use tools designed for their task, rather than tools designed for convenience. |
| 07:13.23 | Guerin | SunnyDP: oh, I've never been there. |
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| 07:13.35 | simonrvn | SunnyDP: wtf you doing up at this time then? :P |
| 07:13.37 | Guerin | i keep meaning to, but ... well ... it's a 28-hour flight |
| 07:14.09 | SunnyDP | simonrvn: 2:15 AM ? learning to work with debian, how about you ? |
| 07:14.20 | SunnyDP | Guerin: what does our nick mean to you then ? :D |
| 07:14.25 | SunnyDP | your* |
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| 07:14.38 | Guerin | SunnyDP: it's just a name |
| 07:15.03 | Guerin | SunnyDP: I must say it's nice to see someone with a name which isn't `BlackDETH666' |
| 07:15.18 | Guerin | or somesuch |
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| 07:15.41 | enouf | OgreBehemoth666 |
| 07:16.45 | SunnyDP | Guerin: check out the happy librarian you remind me of :D :) -> http://www.guerin-editeur.qc.ca/ |
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| 07:17.53 | enouf | SunnyDP: ~$ watch tail /proc/net/dev |
| 07:17.58 | enouf | how |
| 07:18.05 | enouf | 's that for OOTB |
| 07:19.09 | SunnyDP | enouf: thanks |
| 07:19.25 | SunnyDP | ntop is 16mb package, i hope it does the job:S |
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| 07:22.52 | Guerin | SunnyDP: well, I do write for a living. |
| 07:22.54 | rmrfchik | again FAM hunged my system. |
| 07:22.57 | rmrfchik | hate it |
| 07:23.03 | SunnyDP | :) |
| 07:23.14 | Guerin | rmrfchik: make it die! |
| 07:23.39 | Guerin | (this means forsaking retarded gui filemanagers) |
| 07:23.54 | scientes | how do i install the new signing key? |
| 07:23.56 | liable | you can still have them |
| 07:24.03 | rmrfchik | Guerin: kmail hungs :( |
| 07:24.21 | liable | scientes: debian-archive-keyring |
| 07:25.02 | SunnyDP | Guerin: what would be a general usage for ntop? i mean, a general syntax? ntop -eth0 ? |
| 07:25.22 | Guerin | SunnyDP: man ntop :) |
| 07:25.29 | Guerin | rmrfchik: forsake kmail! |
| 07:25.43 | Guerin | rmrfchik: are you using local maildirs? |
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| 07:25.58 | SunnyDP | Guerin: i did :D and it confused me a bit.... |
| 07:26.17 | rmrfchik | Local Folders are initilized by default (and I do not use it) |
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| 07:33.44 | SunnyDP | Guerin: NTOP = WOW :D:D:D http://localhost:3000/ |
| 07:33.51 | SunnyDP | Thanks amigo |
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| 07:39.56 | aidan | dist-upgrade is having some serious problems upgrading ... I get all these php5 related problems with a score of -792. Anyone else had the same problem? |
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| 07:40.19 | Gokee2 | Hello all, I am going to be installing a couple computers with debian lenny and was looking at the cd install. If I get cd-1 does that come with most of the stuff I need? (I normally use netinstall but as I have more then one computer to do and figure I will have the cd around for some time seeing lenny is now stable was looking into the other way) |
| 07:40.34 | SunnyDP | aidan: are you going from 4.06 etch to 5.00 lenny |
| 07:40.35 | SunnyDP | ??? |
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| 07:41.01 | aidan | SunnyDP: no, just updating etch to start with |
| 07:41.16 | SunnyDP | Gokee2: i got the DVD just to be sure, but users confirmed to me that CD1 is enough |
| 07:41.19 | enouf | Gokee2: you want a DE? |
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| 07:41.27 | liable | Gokee2: yeah, there are various cd's for the different desktops |
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| 07:41.37 | SunnyDP | aidan: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade |
| 07:42.02 | SunnyDP | enouf: DE = desktop environment? |
| 07:42.06 | enouf | Gokee2: there are CD1 for various DEs, one for GNOME, another for KDE, and one for XFCE/LXDE |
| 07:42.08 | aidan | SunnyDP: right, I get 12 packags kept back |
| 07:42.09 | enouf | yes |
| 07:42.16 | jmd | I've just upgraded to lenny, and now I can't login. It logs me straight out and tells me to use the "failsafe" session. The failsafe session works. Why doesn't the normal one? |
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| 07:42.45 | SunnyDP | aidan: not too sure then ... |
| 07:42.59 | enouf | but i doubt DVD1 would have all that those 3 have combined |
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| 07:43.11 | Gokee2 | enouf, On one of the computers I will want a light weight one (gonna try lxde I think) on the other none |
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| 07:43.39 | aidan | SunnyDP: you didn't really bring much to the table then :P |
| 07:44.09 | Gokee2 | Ah, I think I will grab debian-500-i386-xfce+lxde-CD-1 |
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| 07:44.24 | enouf | right |
| 07:44.30 | SunnyDP | aidan: i brought help :D it simply wasn't needed :D |
| 07:45.39 | aidan | anyone want to help sort this out? http://dpaste.com/122410/ |
| 07:45.47 | enouf | dpkg: various cd1 is there are CD-1 choices for various DEs (Desktop Environments) - There's one for GNOME, another for KDE, and one for XFCE/LXDE |
| 07:45.47 | dpkg | okay, enouf |
| 07:46.31 | SunnyDP | aidan: here is the solution |
| 07:46.38 | SunnyDP | aidan: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/69 |
| 07:47.13 | enouf | dpkg: various cd1 is also For example; if you wanted the XFCE/LXDE CD-1 of Lenny, you'd grab-> debian-500-i386-xfce+lxde-CD-1.iso from the mirrors |
| 07:47.13 | dpkg | okay, enouf |
| 07:47.22 | SunnyDP | aidan: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| 07:47.56 | aidan | SunnyDP: .. you're not really helping here. |
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| 07:48.21 | SunnyDP | aidan: might be missing repositories |
| 07:48.44 | SunnyDP | aidan: that were once enabled, but are now disabled... |
| 07:48.46 | enouf | dpkg: various cd1 is also if you are going to use the i386 arch |
| 07:48.46 | aidan | SunnyDP: I said before, I had a score of -792. That's dist-upgrade's output. That should suggest that I've already run update, upgrae and dist-upgrade. |
| 07:48.46 | dpkg | enouf: okay |
| 07:49.06 | enouf | !various cd1 |
| 07:49.21 | enouf | :-( |
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| 07:51.05 | SunnyDP | aidan: apt-get install kept-back-package(s) |
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| 07:51.13 | SunnyDP | aidan: that is the correct syntax |
| 07:51.14 | Salacryl | moin |
| 07:51.43 | Salacryl | how can I get libncurses.so.4 back in lenny? |
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| 07:51.53 | SunnyDP | aidan: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html#s-upgrade |
| 07:51.55 | Salacryl | btw, for Lenny? |
| 07:53.09 | LamerC | Hello. I've completed the upgrade to 5 just find and most everything is working now, but I'm having video issues I wasn't having in 4. Sometimes after logging in at the GDM login screen, when it goes to log in the screen stays black, while other times it logs in fine. |
| 07:53.28 | OpenTokix | LamerC: What does the logs say? |
| 07:53.28 | bolt | what's the prettiest way to check if $1 is ("a" or "b" or "c") in bash? all should lead to the same codepath. |
| 07:53.35 | LamerC | And sometimes my screen starts flipping and I can control how fast/much of it flips with the mouse. |
| 07:53.52 | enouf | LamerC: using nvidia drivers? |
| 07:54.02 | aidan | SunnyDP: you're just pasting stuf you don't understand, give it a rest |
| 07:54.07 | LamerC | Should't be no, I think it is the i810 drivers |
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| 07:54.38 | SunnyDP | aidan: it clearly states on the debian website! your problem, and a solution :-X |
| 07:54.42 | SunnyDP | i muts go sorry |
| 07:54.45 | SunnyDP | later |
| 07:54.53 | aidan | SunnyDP: ... that link doesn't solve anything, at all |
| 07:54.57 | LamerC | Also, when it freezes up at login CTRL+ALT+BKSP doesn't break out so I have to switch to a VT and login and reboot |
| 07:55.05 | aidan | sunkan: I'd simply get "broken package, unmet dependencies" |
| 07:55.06 | enouf | LamerC: check for stale gdm files/entries conflicts in /etc/default/gdm/ maybe? |
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| 07:55.36 | enouf | LamerC: or .. do you notice it depends on what your last login choice was from the gdm menu? |
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| 07:55.52 | enouf | LamerC: try running gdmsetup perhaps |
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| 07:57.15 | enouf | LamerC: you shouldn't use ctrl-alt-backspace, it leaves stale files about - and don't reboot - find the PID and kill it - pkill gdm say |
| 07:57.47 | LamerC | okay I'll kill it from now on then. |
| 07:58.06 | LamerC | I don't have an /etc/default/gdm/ but instead /etc/default/kdm.d/ |
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| 07:58.46 | enouf | LamerC: might want to uninstall kdm ? |
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| 07:58.59 | LamerC | Yeah, I didn't even know it was installed. |
| 07:59.04 | enouf | run dpkg-reconfigure gdm? |
| 08:00.09 | LamerC | okay. testing now. |
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| 08:01.53 | enouf | also update-alternatives --config x-session-manager and ensure the one you want is selected? |
| 08:02.43 | simonrvn | or have a semi-modular .xsession ;p |
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| 08:03.22 | enouf | oo .. that's a big word .. shiny! :-p |
| 08:04.23 | simonrvn | well that fucker i mentioned earlier either stopped or i managed to stop it/him/her |
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| 08:04.48 | Salacryl | ??? what the f**k? |
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| 08:05.04 | seria-mau | is there a way to tell iceweasel that it should set the urgent flag when a new tab is opened and not change to the current workspace? |
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| 08:05.11 | Salacryl | why don't exist libncurses4 for etch on amd64? |
| 08:05.32 | simonrvn | why are you asking for libncurses4? |
| 08:05.50 | dondelelcaro | Salacryl: presumably because nothing rdepends on it |
| 08:06.02 | LamerC | Followd what you said. I did dpkg-reconfigure gdm, and started it and it still caused the problem after typing username/password so I killed it with pkill gdm then started it again manually with /etc/init.d/gdm start, but it was a black screen. |
| 08:06.12 | Salacryl | I have 3rd party software that depend on it |
| 08:06.22 | dondelelcaro | there's really no reason for anything to Depend on libncurses4 anymore, anyway. [It's not present in anything after etch, anyway.] |
| 08:06.29 | simonrvn | v4 ? eew |
| 08:06.31 | LamerC | I'm starting to thing it might be bad driver or card. I remember having a similar problem booting ubuntu from the livecd |
| 08:06.33 | dondelelcaro | Salacryl: so have that software rebuilt or build it for yourself |
| 08:06.42 | Salacryl | its not OSS |
| 08:06.46 | dondelelcaro | Salacryl: so? |
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| 08:07.03 | dondelelcaro | Salacryl: presumably you pay for it, and your vendor can rebuild it |
| 08:07.13 | Salacryl | its an old vacation manger for our company |
| 08:07.59 | dondelelcaro | Salacryl: well, your choices are to either rebuild it, or pull the old source packages for libncurses4 and build it, because Debian won't be shipping it |
| 08:08.10 | Salacryl | kay |
| 08:08.23 | enouf | LamerC: wait, i810? try intel and try vesa? |
| 08:08.30 | Salacryl | I rebuild libncurses4 ... seems the easier way |
| 08:09.02 | enouf | LamerC: check for any possible residual 915resolution pkgs/config/cruft |
| 08:09.06 | dondelelcaro | (it's also possible that libncurses4 won't even compile on amd64) |
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| 08:09.45 | dondelelcaro | wait... you have a piece of binary only software that runs on amd64 but is compiled against libncurses4? |
| 08:09.48 | Salacryl | (( I had libncurses on THAT System)) |
| 08:10.15 | simonrvn | talk about braindead |
| 08:11.02 | Salacryl | http://pastebin.com/m4bb31d4a |
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| 08:11.03 | dondelelcaro | I mean, ncurses 5 has only been around since 2000 |
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| 08:11.18 | enouf | LamerC: ls /etc/rc2.d/*gdm |
| 08:11.18 | dondelelcaro | (longer than amd64!) |
| 08:11.34 | Salacryl | I know |
| 08:11.46 | Salacryl | It runs with 32er libs |
| 08:11.56 | enouf | Salacryl: are you running win95? :-P |
| 08:12.18 | dondelelcaro | Salacryl: so then why are you asking about libncurses5 for amd64? |
| 08:12.20 | Salacryl | no ... but the software its about the time :) |
| 08:12.25 | LamerC | . /etc/rc2.d/S20gdm -> ../init.d/gdm |
| 08:12.36 | dondelelcaro | s/5/4 |
| 08:12.41 | enouf | LamerC: ok - good |
| 08:12.48 | Salacryl | dondelelcaro: I didn't .. I as for libncurses4 |
| 08:12.57 | Salacryl | ah damn |
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| 08:13.00 | dondelelcaro | Salacryl: since it needs 32bit libs, use the libncurses4 libs from i386 etch |
| 08:13.12 | Salacryl | yeah I see the point |
| 08:13.28 | LamerC | Section Device: Identifier "Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE ... " Driver "i810" |
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| 08:13.34 | Salacryl | could I just unpack the i386.deb and put the libs in the right dir? |
| 08:13.49 | Gigantic | system-tools-backend and pwserv are detected in |
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| 08:13.56 | enouf | LamerC: using Lenny now, right? use 'intel' there |
| 08:14.00 | Gigantic | nmap but they are not installed in apt list |
| 08:14.04 | Gigantic | how so? |
| 08:14.07 | enouf | LamerC: man intel |
| 08:14.11 | dondelelcaro | Salacryl: mixing and matching 32 bit libraries on top of 64 bit libraries is totally not supported |
| 08:14.11 | LamerC | intel instead of i810, okay |
| 08:14.26 | Salacryl | I Know! |
| 08:14.33 | Salacryl | But I have no choice! |
| 08:14.34 | dondelelcaro | Salacryl: if you've been doing that (as it looks like from the ld output), you're scrwed. |
| 08:14.34 | enouf | LamerC: yeah, IINM, the i810 stuff was merged into 'intel' |
| 08:15.02 | dondelelcaro | Salacryl: if you're running i386 Debian on amd64, however, you just install the i386 package as usual. |
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| 08:15.12 | Salacryl | as usual? |
| 08:15.14 | Salacryl | noway |
| 08:15.23 | LamerC | Okay. Also Xorg.0.log contains loaded kernel module for "i915" driver not i810 |
| 08:15.28 | enouf | LamerC: and if that fails, try 'vesa' ;-) grep drv /var/log/Xorg.0.log after you're in X to see ;-) |
| 08:15.30 | Salacryl | dpkg won't install it |
| 08:15.30 | dpkg | i haven't a clue, Salacryl |
| 08:15.34 | dondelelcaro | Salacryl: what is the output of dpkg-architecture |
| 08:15.47 | enouf | LamerC: well - i think that |
| 08:15.49 | aidan | upgrades to lenny, here goes |
| 08:16.14 | Salacryl | of course: DEB_BUILD_ARCH=amd64 |
| 08:16.16 | enouf | LamerC: well - i think that's ok - maybe drm related - unless left over from 915resolution ? |
| 08:16.32 | dondelelcaro | Salacryl: then run it in a 32 bit chroot. |
| 08:16.37 | enouf | LamerC: check where that's loading from - maybe /etc/modules |
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| 08:16.48 | stdisease | installing evince is broken on sid |
| 08:16.48 | Salacryl | so it works |
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| 08:16.59 | Salacryl | there is a path /lib32 |
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| 08:17.30 | stdisease | evince-gtk is fine |
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| 08:18.30 | dondelelcaro | yes, for the ia32-*; packages, of which there aren't that many |
| 08:18.33 | LamerC | no, modules only contains loop quota_v2 snd-seq-midi and bttv |
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| 08:18.42 | LamerC | ok, changed, i'm testing it again |
| 08:18.47 | dubphil | Hello, is it me or the debootstrap hosting server is misconfigured ? http://packages.debian.org/lenny/debootstrap |
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| 08:19.08 | dondelelcaro | dubphil: p.d.o doesn't host debootstrap |
| 08:19.13 | anewbie | hi there folks |
| 08:19.16 | Salacryl | dondelelcaro: ok I must live with that ... until I get a new vacation manager :( |
| 08:19.49 | dubphil | dondelelcaro: hey good, where can I find it then ? |
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| 08:20.05 | Salacryl | BTW: Do you know that kerberos (heimdal) with samba is screwed in lenny? |
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| 08:20.22 | dondelelcaro | dubphil: for what purpose? |
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| 08:20.44 | anewbie | can some onne tell me why i cant update my lenny |
| 08:20.48 | dubphil | dondelelcaro: I need the debootstrap package to install lenny |
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| 08:21.05 | liable | anewbie: what do you mean? |
| 08:21.13 | dondelelcaro | dubphil: on what type of system? Unless you're doing something specific, you're much better off using the installation media |
| 08:21.26 | dondelelcaro | dubphil: but in any event, http://packages.debian.org/lenny/all/debootstrap/download has all of the places you can download it from |
| 08:21.39 | anewbie | http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_kmoiuZniRDc/R-ENhNGygpI/AAAAAAAAB8E/JriIorLvH2A/s1600-h/admin001.jpg |
| 08:21.39 | anewbie | ups |
| 08:21.39 | anewbie | the link is offtopic sorry |
| 08:21.39 | anewbie | W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/lenny/dists/main/contrib/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 128.30.2.36 80] |
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| 08:21.56 | dondelelcaro | (and ISTR the installation guide even covers that method) |
| 08:22.01 | anewbie | sorry about the long paste |
| 08:22.08 | anewbie | liable |
| 08:22.13 | anewbie | i mean i can't update |
| 08:22.18 | dubphil | dondelelcaro: thanks a lot, I know I can use a media, but I haven't got the choice |
| 08:22.26 | Wynther | hello, I installed Debian 5.0 and during the installation I choose 'don't use a network mirror' when it asked me, because I didn't want to wait for it to download (my connection is slow), but now I want to add mirrors to my /etc/apt/sources.list what are the mirrors that the installer adds by default if you choose to use a network mirror? thanks. |
| 08:22.41 | dondelelcaro | !tell Wynther -about mirrors |
| 08:22.43 | liable | anewbie: try another mirror. |
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| 08:23.00 | gypsymauro | hi |
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| 08:23.27 | gypsymauro | how can I install a package from experimental without update the whole system? |
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| 08:23.48 | dondelelcaro | gypsymauro: in general, you need to be running unstable to use experimental |
| 08:23.57 | selj | gypsymauro: I believe if you google "apt pinning" you'll find what you want |
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| 08:24.23 | dondelelcaro | gypsymauro: but other than that, you don't need to do anything special, because it's pinned by default. [But you really shouldn't be using experimental if you didn't already know that and didn't know how to find that out.] |
| 08:24.41 | anewbie | liable, i try |
| 08:24.44 | anewbie | our bg mirror |
| 08:24.47 | anewbie | the us mirror |
| 08:25.00 | anewbie | i try onyl ftp.debian.org |
| 08:25.08 | anewbie | and recive 404 from everywhere |
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| 08:26.35 | stdisease | anewbie, tried ftp://ftp.debian.org, not http:// ? |
| 08:26.36 | liable | anewbie: paste your sources.list to pastbin |
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| 08:26.51 | gypsymauro | tanx |
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| 08:28.04 | dubphil | not better http://packages.debian.org/lenny/all/debootstrap/debootstrap |
| 08:28.28 | anewbie | stdisease, they must be http ? |
| 08:28.36 | anewbie | wai for sec to try that |
| 08:28.43 | Shadur | Okay, gnome in sid just broke massively here when libgconf2 and libbonobo failed to install. |
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| 08:29.06 | Wynther | well, thanks for the list of mirrors, but also can somebody please tell me what to add in sources.list? I mean the syntax of it |
| 08:29.19 | agilman | Shadur: Im having trouble getting xserver working :( |
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| 08:29.47 | agilman | oh, this is the debian channel... |
| 08:29.57 | force | hi, whats the apt package called for Sys::Virt ? |
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| 08:30.20 | stdisease | anewbie, no, they can be any protocol supported by the downloader |
| 08:30.21 | dubphil | Wynther: you can find thousands of sources.list on the web, do a search |
| 08:30.23 | craigevil | Shadur: thats why I always do apt-get dist-upgrade -yd first to see what might be removed |
| 08:30.43 | Wynther | ok i will try, thanks |
| 08:31.01 | stdisease | Shadur, welcome to the club, lots of software broke in sid not just gnome |
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| 08:32.25 | dubphil | I'm not dreaming but http://packages.debian.org/lenny/all/debootstrap is buggy isn't it ? |
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| 08:33.13 | Shadur | craigevil: Yeah, but I had a headache this morning and didn't pay enough attention. |
| 08:33.53 | craigevil | Shadur: the gconf and libbonobo packages to fix it can be installed from exp |
| 08:33.54 | Shadur | Also, gconf2 can't download because it's failing a hash checksum. |
| 08:33.55 | stdisease | dubphil, what's buggy about it. You're sure this is what you need, it isn't the best way to upgrade |
| 08:34.30 | stdisease | ? and ? |
| 08:34.30 | scientes | what happened to multi-arch? |
| 08:34.32 | enouf | Wynther: /msg dpkg sources.list |
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| 08:35.06 | shams1 | i install and enable APC. but i need a web based statistic pages for APC. i see same page in another server. can you tell me how can i have one of that pages? |
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| 08:36.00 | anewbie | http://rafb.net/p/0a5uyx13.html |
| 08:36.00 | anewbie | here is my sources.list |
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| 08:36.19 | anewbie | gee pastebin.com thinks that i am spammer |
| 08:36.53 | enouf | you spammed here - we told them about you :-P |
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| 08:37.05 | enouf | try rafb.net/paste |
| 08:37.11 | anewbie | yea yea |
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| 08:37.12 | anewbie | http://rafb.net/p/0a5uyx13.html |
| 08:37.14 | anewbie | here it is |
| 08:37.14 | anewbie | :) |
| 08:37.15 | simonrvn | what could cause load average / 15min to be foing up, but nothing is hogging cpu afaict, in top? |
| 08:37.46 | Eulex | simonrvn, io wait |
| 08:37.55 | simonrvn | oh *now* it decides to go down... |
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| 08:38.15 | simonrvn | Eulex: what's the util to check that again? /proc or some CLI thing? |
| 08:38.30 | Eulex | simonrvn, sorry, I don't remember |
| 08:38.55 | craigevil | anewbie: you have lenny in your sources.list twice one with just main and one with main non-free contrib |
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| 08:39.40 | anewbie | ... craigevil you mean that those both are the same ? |
| 08:39.47 | craigevil | yes |
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| 08:40.08 | nsadmin | problem is line 4 |
| 08:40.09 | simonrvn | going down *really* slow... it's acting crazy. |
| 08:40.21 | Wynther | thanks people, now it works |
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| 08:40.49 | LamerC | I'm back. After switching it to 'intel' I I checked the log file and it still uses i915 DRI module. I tried to change the resolution to 1024x768 and got the problem. Then I changed to vesa but vesa driver is not available. |
| 08:40.51 | craigevil | ah i missed that the lack of a space between / and lenny |
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| 08:41.44 | LamerC | I check /usr/lib/dri and I find both i810 and i915 files. If the xorg file was orginally using the i810 X11 driver but the i915 DRI driver could that cause problems. |
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| 08:42.20 | LamerC | I notice it happens most when switching resolutions though (playing a game fullscreen doesn't work and causes the problem but windowed doesn't). |
| 08:44.49 | anewbie | thx craigevil |
| 08:44.57 | simonrvn | not going under 2.9 on 15 min. ... |
| 08:45.10 | simonrvn | ARG, i hate not finding out what's going on |
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| 08:46.53 | xingu | simonrvn: loadav isn't really too useful a metric at the best of times |
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| 08:47.31 | simonrvn | i know, but for me it's an indication of something's wrong, when *nothing* is hogging cpu. |
| 08:47.37 | xingu | simonrvn: have a look at ps WCHAN states, sometimes this can be revealing. |
| 08:47.38 | enouf | simonrvn: grah ... JordiGH has a point about codenames ... seems if this http://wiki.debian.org/iwlagn said Lenny and Sid when it was written - oh NM, since now Sid would need to be changed down to Squeeze anyways |
| 08:48.04 | enouf | LamerC: oh - highlight me when you return :-) |
| 08:48.14 | xingu | simonrvn: ps -eo pid,args,wchan or similar. |
| 08:48.19 | simonrvn | now mailq is hanging |
| 08:48.27 | LamerC | okay, how do I do that? |
| 08:48.46 | enouf | LamerC: show me lspci -nnk | grep -A 5 VGA |
| 08:48.51 | enouf | pastebin |
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| 08:49.34 | simonrvn | xingu: and this is supposed to tel me what exactly? |
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| 08:51.46 | force | hi, i found a package i need in etch backports, how can i install it ? the usual commands fail |
| 08:52.02 | LamerC | enouf: http://pastebin.com/meb1e7ac |
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| 08:54.47 | enouf | LamerC: i915 is a kernel module - is there an X lib too? |
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| 08:55.01 | Mousey | xserver-xorg-video-intel |
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| 08:56.15 | LamerC | no. only /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/i810_drv.so, which is a symlink to intel_drv.so |
| 08:57.20 | enouf | LamerC: yeah here too |
| 08:57.23 | LamerC | would using frame buffer help. During xserver-xorg configuration I just left it at no, so xorg.conf has UseFBDev "False" |
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| 08:59.15 | enouf | why the fuck are the /dri shits separated out into their own f'ken dir/ ? |
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| 08:59.33 | enouf | LamerC: stop one minure |
| 08:59.36 | enouf | LamerC: stop one minute |
| 08:59.37 | LamerC | if the lspci command showed it as a i2c-i810 kernel module shouldn't it be loading /usr/lib/dri/i810_drv.so instead of i915_drv.so |
| 08:59.39 | LamerC | ok |
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| 09:01.53 | aidan | amazing ... updated to lenny without too much hassle |
| 09:02.11 | aidan | had to uninstall a bunch of packages to get the dep resolution to work, but that's fairly standard I imagine |
| 09:02.34 | enouf | LamerC: no, you don't care about intel-fb for X, afaik .. now - lsmod | grep 915 |
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| 09:02.56 | enouf | forget i2c shit too for now |
| 09:03.21 | LamerC | enouf: http://pastebin.com/m3bb995b5 |
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| 09:03.29 | enouf | LamerC: and pastebin your Xorg.0.log |
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| 09:03.50 | valdyn | LamerC: you need to explicitely specifiy the intel driver for newer intel chipsets in xorg.conf |
| 09:05.00 | valdyn | simonrvn: nothing in D state either? |
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| 09:05.08 | kaushal | hi |
| 09:05.12 | maligor | instant libc6 exitement in sid huh :P |
| 09:05.24 | LamerC | enouf: http://pastebin.com/mf81d5d4 |
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| 09:05.32 | kaushal | when i do sudo dpkg -l '*pidgin*' |
| 09:05.41 | kaushal | i get pn pidgin-otr <none> (no description available) |
| 09:05.47 | enouf | LamerC: ok - one moment |
| 09:05.48 | kaushal | what does pn means ? |
| 09:06.12 | valdyn | kaushal: not installed and no config files left on the system |
| 09:06.18 | simonrvn | valdyn: some CRON job is |
| 09:06.32 | valdyn | simonrvn: theres the load then |
| 09:06.33 | dubphil | it is me or http://packages.debian.org/lenny/all/debootstrap cannot provides the debootdstrap package anymore ? I know what I'm doing and I need this package what can I do then ? |
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| 09:06.45 | kaushal | valdyn, is there a documentation ? |
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| 09:07.24 | valdyn | kaushal: i dont know |
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| 09:08.00 | xingu | simonrvn: sorry 'bout that, workstation lockup (looks like there might be something nasty in 2.6.28 that manifests under a video transcode workload, still refining) |
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| 09:08.04 | valdyn | dubphil: what is the problem? that link works fine, the package is there |
| 09:08.15 | xingu | simonrvn: any joy after my wchan comment? |
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| 09:08.47 | simonrvn | valdyn: and it won't die either |
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| 09:08.54 | valdyn | simonrvn: system call not returning |
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| 09:09.03 | valdyn | simonrvn: so you hit a kernel bug, load is consquence |
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| 09:09.37 | skar | hi, how long will etch be supported now, that lenny is released? |
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| 09:09.39 | dubphil | valdyn: I have this : Error two or more packages specified (debootstrap debootstrap) when I click on a package |
| 09:09.40 | enouf | LamerC: wow, that Xorg.0.log basically all looks ok to me - maybe you want to comment out the Module dri line in your xorg.conf? |
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| 09:09.42 | valdyn | simonrvn: its possible that this is not a bug, but then it would have to time out at some point |
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| 09:09.58 | LamerC | okay i'll try that. |
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| 09:10.01 | simonrvn | valdyn: half hour so far |
| 09:10.08 | valdyn | simonrvn: like a system call depending on slow network, which might take a while to time out |
| 09:10.11 | valdyn | simonrvn: but not half an hour |
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| 09:10.22 | enouf | LamerC: are you still getting the SAME issues, or diff ones? i had trouble following you before |
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| 09:11.09 | mischief6 | anyone have an opinions on proftpd vs vsftpd? |
| 09:11.10 | LamerC | Same problems. Sometimes when logging in after logging in the screen just goes blank and stays that way. Other times it's fine. Also the same problem happens when trying to change resolution or running a full-screen game that changes resolution. |
| 09:11.13 | enouf | LamerC: i'm asking about the i915 and drm Kernl modules in #debian-x for you, but i wouldn't hold my breath - it;s a -dev channel :-P |
| 09:11.29 | enouf | LamerC: pastebin xorg.conf |
| 09:11.38 | aidan | what's {a} mean in aptitude? |
| 09:11.53 | enouf | LamerC: and - perhaps you want to set Vert/Hor Refresh rates in xorg.conf ? |
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| 09:12.01 | valdyn | aidan: automatically installed = installed as a dependency of a package that you installed explicitely |
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| 09:12.08 | aidan | ah |
| 09:12.12 | aidan | is that new? |
| 09:12.17 | valdyn | aidan: removing the explicitely installed package will result in removal of the {a} package |
| 09:12.23 | simonrvn | valdyn: 9353 /USR/SBIN/CRON fork |
| 09:12.27 | valdyn | aidan: no, not new |
| 09:12.41 | LamerC | enouf: http://pastebin.com/m1059f61e |
| 09:12.42 | simonrvn | valdyn: D state proc #1. there's another one now... |
| 09:12.56 | dubphil | anyone can point me on a downloadable debootstrap package for Lenny i386 ? |
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| 09:12.59 | enouf | LamerC: oh a Gateway pc ? (II) intel(0): Using EDID range info for horizontal sync (II) intel(0): Using EDID range info for vertical refresh <-- maybe there;s a NoEDID option - man intel |
| 09:13.12 | shams1 | i have a dedicated server and i want to monitoring all of that. from apache and mysql to system resources like ram and cpu usage. whats is your suggested application for doing this easily? |
| 09:13.18 | LamerC | No, the monitor is a gateway but the box is an emachine |
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| 09:14.05 | enouf | LamerC: one bought out the other ;-) but right the edid is from the monitor |
| 09:14.23 | simonrvn | valdyn: isn't there some signal i can pass to it to unblock it? |
| 09:14.41 | valdyn | simonrvn: -9, uh |
| 09:14.48 | simonrvn | valdyn: 'cause right now a reboot is looking mighty attractive... |
| 09:14.51 | enouf | LamerC: show me what dpkg -l \*libgl1 | grep ^.i says |
| 09:15.07 | valdyn | simonrvn: you can always ignore the load or zombify the process |
| 09:15.14 | simonrvn | -9 isn't cutting it |
| 09:15.23 | simonrvn | it's like totally stuck |
| 09:15.24 | valdyn | simonrvn: -9 not killing it? |
| 09:15.44 | simonrvn | nope |
| 09:15.45 | valdyn | simonrvn: or zombifying even |
| 09:15.56 | LamerC | nothing |
| 09:16.03 | simonrvn | no zombifying, nothing |
| 09:16.07 | LamerC | it's status is 'un' |
| 09:16.09 | enouf | LamerC: well - that looks ok too - wait .. nothing? |
| 09:16.18 | simonrvn | init adopted it but that's about it |
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| 09:16.58 | enouf | LamerC: apt-get install libgl1-mesa-dri ibgl1-mesa-glx |
| 09:17.02 | enouf | er |
| 09:17.04 | LamerC | there are some libgl1-mesa though |
| 09:17.07 | simonrvn | ok, they're accumulating. i'm going to reboot the box to another kernel. |
| 09:17.07 | enouf | LamerC: apt-get install libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-glx |
| 09:17.17 | enouf | ahh crap |
| 09:17.30 | enouf | my initial one was bad - forgot to add a * |
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| 09:17.42 | valdyn | simonrvn: i dont see this issue on lkml |
| 09:18.03 | simonrvn | i really didn't want to be up this late... |
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| 09:18.04 | enouf | actually - i put it on the wrong side - so dpkg -l \*libgl1 should've been dpkg -l libgl1\* |
| 09:18.11 | LamerC | enouf: http://pastebin.com/m3ac936b3 |
| 09:18.32 | simonrvn | valdyn: thanks for looking that up |
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| 09:18.37 | enouf | yeah .. LamerC i hope you |
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| 09:19.07 | enouf | yeah .. LamerC i hope you're saving all these URLs, cause i can't really help more - but whoever does, will want to see all these things :-) |
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| 09:19.23 | enouf | LamerC: are you sure it isn't a power or cable issue? |
| 09:19.45 | LamerC | I don't think so. I didn't have this issue at all with Debian 4 |
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| 09:20.02 | enouf | LamerC: tried messing with some Monitor OnScreenDisplay timings/settings? |
| 09:20.10 | enouf | ok |
| 09:20.18 | valdyn | LamerC: have you tried copying your old xorg.conf ? or are you still using the old xorg.conf? |
| 09:20.21 | mischief6 | anyone have an opinions on proftpd vs vsftpd? |
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| 09:21.20 | enouf | then likely either a EDID issue or something - or ... maybe the AIGLX support isn't really supposed to be there - i really don't know - OH - go over to #intel-gfx .. but that might be for drivers from Intel direct only |
| 09:21.26 | LamerC | It is the same as the old |
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| 09:22.34 | enouf | LamerC: does xrandr output and get-edid | parse-edid output look sane ? and does cvt -v 1600 1200 modes match what's in Xorg.0.log? |
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| 09:23.04 | freebse | AIGLX on Intel is not supported really... with the drivers from xorg |
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| 09:24.00 | Jubei | anybody have any insight on how to install the gd graphics library on debian coz the google search results are not very helpful |
| 09:24.02 | enouf | freebse: take a look at all the fail lines about AIGLX prior to this one |
| 09:24.03 | enouf | (II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized /usr/lib/dri/i915_dri.so |
| 09:24.06 | LamerC | don't have get-edid instaleld |
| 09:24.12 | enouf | http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=mf81d5d4 |
| 09:24.24 | enouf | LamerC: read-edid pkg IIRC |
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| 09:24.28 | freebse | hm |
| 09:24.29 | enouf | ewr |
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| 09:24.38 | enouf | whichever it |
| 09:24.40 | enouf | is |
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| 09:25.04 | enouf | man these X issues drive me L00OOO00NEY |
| 09:25.17 | twouters | I'm trying to make a bootable usb key, but grub-install won't install it's stages on it - but it does on another usb key, has anyone any experience with this? |
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| 09:26.01 | enouf | LamerC: how about you move your xorg.conf out of the way for now - or comment out all the Video stuff and DRI lines and modules - leave tje Keys and Mouse onlu |
| 09:26.05 | enouf | only |
| 09:26.24 | LamerC | sudo get-edid 'crashed' |
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| 09:26.55 | LamerC | http://pastebin.com/m7e15cfaf |
| 09:27.02 | enouf | twouters: wipe the USB key with dd if=/dev/zero prior |
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| 09:27.13 | enouf | twouters: wipe the misbehaving USB key with dd if=/dev/zero prior |
| 09:27.24 | enouf | or is that a u3 thing? |
| 09:27.33 | enouf | with lunchmeat on it |
| 09:27.45 | enouf | LamerC: no |
| 09:27.47 | aidan | what's "i A" mean in apitude search |
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| 09:28.09 | mne | Hi guys. How can I get tripwire to _only_ send email if files have been modified ? So far I added an "emailto=mail@address" line for each rule. I'm starting tripwire with the option "--email-report" to receive reports at all. Unfortunately tripwire now _always_ emails its report, even if no files have been changed |
| 09:28.12 | enouf | LamerC: get-edid | parse-edid |
| 09:28.16 | BubbaT | Ok. I've got a problem the machine I'm installing debian is a dual-core T1600. I believe that I am suposed to be using the image in hd-media to create a boot USB stick. The problem is there is no hd-media directory in the ia64 directory. |
| 09:28.17 | enouf | as user |
| 09:28.40 | enouf | !tell aidan -about aptitude-doc-en |
| 09:28.57 | enouf | crap |
| 09:29.07 | enouf | find that pkg aidan install it |
| 09:29.12 | LamerC | enouf: http://pastebin.com/m1e8cbe16 |
| 09:29.29 | aidan | enouf: man aptitue? how do I use it? |
| 09:29.32 | enouf | Installed AUTOMARKED or something aidan |
| 09:29.35 | valdyn | BubbaT: and why would you want the ia64 image? |
| 09:29.53 | alphanet | Hello, my postfix doesn't want to use /etc/hosts, even if /var/spool/postfix/etc/hosts is also up to date. Is this normal behaviour (only use DNS, not /etc/hosts? ping uses it so the system config seems ok. Or should I have nsswitch.conf in the jail, too? |
| 09:29.53 | enouf | hehe ia64? w00h00 |
| 09:29.57 | LamerC | This doesn't look like my file, I don't have DotClock, HTimings, VTimings |
| 09:30.03 | BubbaT | Isn't that what you are supposed to use for a 64 bit Intel? |
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| 09:30.24 | alphanet | Hello, my postfix doesn't want to use /etc/hosts, even if /var/spool/postfix/etc/hosts is also up to date. Is this normal behaviour (only use DNS, not /etc/hosts? ping uses it so the system config seems ok. Or should I have nsswitch.conf in the jail, too? (well, there is, and it says "files dns") |
| 09:30.36 | alphanet | (use to work correctly in sarge) |
| 09:31.07 | enouf | LamerC: it's what you've pasted, i just like the (Download) Plain text view |
| 09:31.58 | enouf | oh LamerC i misunderstood what you meant - nm |
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| 09:34.32 | enouf | LamerC: dotclock is PixClock in Xorg log |
| 09:34.59 | enouf | and yours isn't showing anythign :-P |
| 09:35.12 | enouf | heh |
| 09:35.13 | enouf | (II) NV(0): Ranges: V min: 56 V max: 75 Hz, H min: 31 H max: 81 kHz, PixClock max 140 MHz |
| 09:35.24 | enouf | my gf2 .. lmao |
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| 09:36.20 | enouf | LamerC: (II) intel(0): Using hsync ranges from config file (II) intel(0): Using vrefresh ranges from config file |
| 09:36.33 | enouf | move your xorg.conf out of the way and try |
| 09:36.40 | LamerC | My monitor OSD is saying it is 92kHz/85Hz |
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| 09:36.57 | LamerC | okay |
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| 09:37.29 | enouf | BubbaT: no, amd64 arch |
| 09:37.42 | enouf | BubbaT: /msg dpkg ia64 |
| 09:37.48 | LamerC | okay I renamed xorg.conf, testing |
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| 09:40.13 | ToreadorVampire | Hey all - debian etch question mainly - is there a fairly simple way to get apt to output a list of all of the currently installed packages on a system? |
| 09:40.31 | Eulex | dpkg -l|grep ^ii |
| 09:40.31 | dpkg | Eulex: bugger all, i dunno |
| 09:40.32 | Roq | dpkg -l |
| 09:40.32 | dpkg | Roq: I give up, what is it? |
| 09:40.51 | Roq | hah |
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| 09:41.18 | Eulex | the grep ^ii is important as dpkg -l also lists packages that have been installed or are purged etc |
| 09:41.23 | fireba11 | ToreadorVampire : several in fact ... dpkg --get-selections > file.txt for one |
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| 09:41.40 | worren | help |
| 09:41.57 | ToreadorVampire | I'm just considering it for a backup system - rather than backup all of the software itself, just backup a list of "What I'd need to type into apt-get in order to reinstall the same stuff" (along with /etc) |
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| 09:42.18 | valdyn | !clone debian |
| 09:42.22 | valdyn | !debian clone |
| 09:42.22 | dpkg | One method of cloning debian installs is to take a current debian machine that is setup with the packages you want and run the command "dpkg --get-selections > ~/selectionfile". Then, after the base install on other machines use that file and do: "dpkg --set-selections < ./selectionfile && apt-get dselect-upgrade". Also ask me about <aptitude clone><reinstall><things to backup> |
| 09:42.25 | valdyn | ToreadorVampire: ^^ |
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| 09:42.29 | fireba11 | ToreadorVampire : i'm doing that here :_D |
| 09:42.36 | twouters | enouf: it still doesn't create any stages in boot/grub/, the only file that gets created is boot/grub/device.map |
| 09:43.03 | Internat | out of interest, whats dselect-upgrade do different to normal upgrade? |
| 09:43.17 | ToreadorVampire | valdyn> Ah, most excellent! |
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| 09:43.57 | LamerC | It seems to be working now. I can change screen resolutions and orientation without going blank, though I don't know why |
| 09:43.59 | enouf | twouters: and you setup the partitioning exactly the same way on BOTH keys? what's differnent? |
| 09:44.00 | LamerC | http://pastebin.com/m3b2a7545 |
| 09:44.01 | worren | after upgrade, every key causes 'pause/break'. |
| 09:44.13 | enouf | and show me the dd command you used twouters |
| 09:44.18 | ToreadorVampire | adds that to a cron.weekly to drop a file of that nature into a location that will be backed up |
| 09:44.21 | enouf | LamerC: ? |
| 09:44.30 | enouf | LamerC: note; HTimings and Vtimings == hsync and vsync |
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| 09:45.05 | enouf | cvt output / get-edid | parse-edid vs Xorg.0.log |
| 09:45.18 | twouters | enouf: the main difference is that fdisk shows "Note: sector size is 2048 (not 512)" for the failing disk |
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| 09:45.49 | simonrvn | valdyn: i think i know what it might be. libnss-ldap |
| 09:45.54 | twouters | enouf: i did dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc |
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| 09:45.57 | worren | after upgrade, every key causes 'pause/break'. |
| 09:46.01 | enouf | LamerC: what happened? i still see (II) intel(0): Using hsync ranges from config file (II) intel(0): Using vrefresh ranges from config file |
| 09:46.06 | twouters | enouf: and recreated the partition |
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| 09:46.35 | enouf | twouters: ok - that's a U3 then |
| 09:46.38 | enouf | !u3 |
| 09:46.38 | dpkg | rumour has it, u3 is a company producing a proprietary method of auto-launching applications from specially formatted USB flash drive. "U3 smart drives" differ from traditional USB flash drives because they come preinstalled with the U3 Launchpad, which looks similar to the Windows OS start menu and controls program installation. The method only works with recent Microsoft Windows systems.. These devices also appear as cdrom drives, and use a ISO FS ... |
| 09:46.41 | LamerC | I know. At the top it says (EE) Unable to locate/open config file |
| 09:46.50 | enouf | !remove u3 |
| 09:46.50 | dpkg | hmm... remove u3 is U3 removal for Linux: http://zenthought.org/content/project/youthree (WARNING: DESTROYS DATA) |
| 09:46.57 | alphanet | (ok, found it, it's the SMTP spec, will fix in transport map) |
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| 09:47.11 | enouf | twouters: ISO9660 FSs use 2048 |
| 09:47.23 | simonrvn | valdyn: the box had been up for about a week with no problems. earlier tonight i switched over nsswitch.conf back to looking up stuff in ldap. that's when the problems started happening, and what might causing apache2 grief. |
| 09:47.26 | debianite | !tell debianite about debian |
| 09:47.26 | nattx | internat: if upgraded packages have new dependencies, dist-upgrade will install new packages to fulfill the dependencies, regular uprade will not |
| 09:47.32 | jerome | hi there, I'm looking for a decent way to set my kbd layout properly without HAL/evdev for now. I'm using a dvorak layout on a thinkpad kbd, everything is just too messed up right now. Any hints ? |
| 09:47.36 | worren | help, after upgrade, every key causes 'pause/break'. |
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| 09:47.57 | twouters | enouf: ok, thanks |
| 09:48.08 | ToreadorVampire | valdyn> I know this is a silly question - and the answer is 99% likely to be "no" - but that clone procedure - has it changed at all on lenny? |
| 09:48.31 | Internat | nattx: dslect upgrade, not dist-upgrade :) |
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| 09:48.45 | BubbaT | I wonder if they can program those U3 sticks to self-destruct.For the people who are spies. |
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| 09:49.04 | ToreadorVampire | All my servers are etch at the moment, but I'm considering tentatively upgrading a few to lenny sometime soonish ... |
| 09:49.17 | enouf | LamerC: i don't know man - maybe for fun blacklist the i915 and drm kernel modules - dunno .. ugh |
| 09:50.09 | enouf | same problems? are you certain you upgraded fully to Lenny? apt-get install -f (tries to fix any broken or half-installed pkgs) |
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| 09:50.55 | LamerC | enouf: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. |
| 09:51.07 | enouf | figures |
| 09:51.15 | simonrvn | !tell debianite -about msg the bot |
| 09:51.39 | nattx | internat: typo was most likely explanation, answer to literal question is dselect upgrade doesn't do anything |
| 09:51.39 | nattx | "dselect: unknown action string `upgrade' |
| 09:51.39 | nattx | "Type dselect --help for help." |
| 09:51.40 | enouf | LamerC: nothing changed at all in all of this? /msg dpkg blacklist |
| 09:52.17 | nattx | internat: and "dselect-upgrade: command not found" |
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| 09:52.48 | ToreadorVampire | Anyway - thanks! |
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| 09:52.54 | Internat | 19:42] <dpkg> One method of cloning debian installs is to take a current debian machine that is setup with the packages you want and run the command "dpkg --get-selections > ~/selectionfile". Then, after the base install on other machines use that file and do: "dpkg --set-selections < ./selectionfile && apt-get dselect-upgrade". Also ask me about <aptitude clone><reinstall><things to backup> |
| 09:53.09 | LamerC | no. during the upgrade process it uninstalled and reinstaleld the xserver-xorg stuff, considered xserver-video-i810 (or something like that) obsolute and replaced with intel |
| 09:53.10 | Internat | i was refering to the dselect-upgrade argument of apt-get.. ive never seen it before and iw as corious what it did |
| 09:53.12 | enouf | twouters: not sure you want to try, but fdisk, IIRC has an option to force blocksize ;-) |
| 09:53.35 | LamerC | The configure file is basically the same, it always had those options, device, and the several modes for each of the depths |
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| 09:54.53 | qiuhd | hi, i want to install mysql 5.1 in debian etch. is there any good way of doing that? |
| 09:54.55 | Jubei | guys the php command doesnt seem to be on my system even though I have installed the php package. how can I install it? |
| 09:55.07 | qiuhd | there is already an older mysql version installed with a database |
| 09:55.18 | qiuhd | i want to upgrade that one to the latest version of mysql |
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| 09:56.25 | mhall | Hello all... I am trying to figure out what simple MP3 player is the best XMMS replacement, but it seems like all of BMP, BMPx, Audacious, and XMMS2 are all dead these days. What programs have superseded these? |
| 09:56.44 | LamerC | This was my xorg.conf file before the upgrade |
| 09:56.46 | LamerC | http://pastebin.com/m37f7d879 |
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| 09:58.21 | nattx | internat: ah, now i understand, apt-get dselect-upgrade should not only update already installed packages but also carry out actions specified in the database as changes-to-be-made |
| 09:58.26 | nattx | internat: i think |
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| 09:59.08 | enouf | LamerC: find the x11 / xorg scripts (/etc/rcS.d and /etc/init.d/) and you gdm ones and make the #!/bin/bash look like this #!/bin/bash -x I'm unsure now, after this wild goose chase whether gdm always comes up? or sometimes not, or .. it only sometimes blanks/flickers upon Login? |
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| 09:59.49 | enouf | LamerC: if all else fails - file bugs :-) |
| 09:59.54 | enouf | !bts |
| 09:59.54 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. Useful for unstable and testing: aptitude install apt-listbugs <apt-listchanges> . |
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| 10:00.27 | enouf | will NEVER buy intel video chipsets .. ugh |
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| 10:02.14 | twouters | enouf: youthree doesn't detect the device |
| 10:02.33 | twouters | enouf: and the -b option for fdisk doesn't really change anything |
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| 10:02.45 | LamerC | x11-common and gdm scripts start as '#! /bin/sh' |
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| 10:04.07 | LamerC | Checking the new log it is loading the video drives 'intel', etc but not the 'dri' driver. I'm going to copy it back over and comment out the DRI option, see if it works better then. |
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| 10:05.27 | enouf | twouters: time to love it to death with a sledgehammer |
| 10:07.21 | twouters | enouf: will do |
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| 10:09.22 | LamerC | enouf: Okay I restored xorg.conf, except edited out the Load "dri" line unde Section "Module" |
| 10:09.40 | LamerC | Now I'm not having problems changing resolution or anything. |
| 10:09.49 | LamerC | Should I still file it as a bug? |
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| 10:12.51 | LamerC | also a general question, in debian 4 under gnome, CTRL+ALT+NUMPAD+/- could adjust the screen resolution. Can this be done in 5? |
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| 10:15.26 | bolt-wor1 | LamerC: if you have multiple resolutions set up in your conf file, then yes |
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| 10:15.37 | m4rtijn | hi all |
| 10:15.42 | libre | anyone using xmonad here please? |
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| 10:17.59 | ShredZ | I've got a busted drive (grub 17, won't mount. lots of IO errors) with 3 partitions (and fdisk still reads the partition table), can anyone suggest a data recovery strategy (e.g. tools, image etc) ? |
| 10:18.16 | rpaulson | in the debian lenny install I am asked if I want to create a "minimal" initrd image.. how do I do this when I upgrade from etch to lenny? |
| 10:18.22 | enouf | LamerC: didn't we try just commenting out the dri line earlier? |
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| 10:18.45 | enouf | LamerC: are i915 and drm kernel modules blacklisted now? |
| 10:19.17 | LamerC | I commented them out earlier but didn't reboot. |
| 10:19.23 | LamerC | How do I blacklist the module? |
| 10:19.30 | bolt-wor1 | !blacklist |
| 10:19.30 | dpkg | In etch, lenny and sid, create/edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local and add a line similar to this (without quotes): "blacklist module_name". IMPORTANT: ask about <blacklist-initramfs>. For sarge ask me about <blacklist sarge>. To blacklist a module at installation time, ask me about <installer blacklist>. If this doesn't work, do 'echo "install modulename /bin/true" >> /etc/modprobe.d/myblacklist'. |
| 10:19.35 | enouf | LamerC: my ctrl+alt+[+/-] always works |
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| 10:20.23 | enouf | and im on some weirdo mix of etch/lenny/squeeze/sid .. not for long anymore - going to reup to sid soon again, once some dust settles |
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| 10:20.47 | m4rtijn | is there any graphical software raid tool for debian? |
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| 10:20.51 | enouf | LamerC: my point is, if you didn't already blacklist those modules, what's different? |
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| 10:21.09 | diabel- | Hi |
| 10:21.14 | enouf | LamerC: it's NOT the commented out dri line in xorg.conf |
| 10:21.28 | diabel- | Is there any option in apt to log everything from apt? |
| 10:22.47 | enouf | basically /var/log/dpkg.log is all i know of |
| 10:23.12 | enouf | maybe an update-manager will have it's own logs too |
| 10:23.30 | enouf | but i do everything like this from the cli with apt |
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| 10:23.58 | LamerC | hmm I don't know what is different. The only change between the xorg is the commented line. |
| 10:24.33 | enouf | LamerC: we tried that much longer back - and i even see your xorg.conf with that one dri line commented out |
| 10:24.45 | diabel- | enouf: thx |
| 10:24.54 | enouf | LamerC: are you still using intel? or i810 or ? |
| 10:25.10 | LamerC | 'intel' still |
| 10:25.22 | enouf | LamerC: did you update && upgrade ? |
| 10:25.31 | enouf | apt-get install -f did nothing |
| 10:25.42 | enouf | removing kdm did nothing |
| 10:25.50 | enouf | gdmsetup did nothing |
| 10:27.01 | LamerC | Well I did reconfigure xserver a couple times. it may have dome somthing. |
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| 10:27.08 | enouf | LamerC: here, look http://pastebin.com/m1059f61e |
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| 10:27.53 | seria-mau | why do wildcards for package names in /etc/apt/preferences not work? do i have to set some option for this to work? |
| 10:28.05 | enouf | man apt_preferences |
| 10:28.08 | enouf | they work |
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| 10:28.49 | LamerC | Yes I remember. I commented it out but then I started to do some of hte other stuff (cvt, get-edid, etc) and I didn't reboot. When you asked me to paste it then I must have forgot to undo it before pasting it. |
| 10:28.51 | enouf | solid_li`: your client sucks |
| 10:28.59 | enouf | solid_liq: your client sucks |
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| 10:29.35 | LamerC | Then I ended up renaming xorg.conf it before rebooting |
| 10:29.36 | enouf | LamerC: yeah, right after that paste - we mv your xorg.conf out of the way |
| 10:30.03 | enouf | LamerC: but now it's back, and it's exactly the same as that? |
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| 10:30.44 | LamerC | I copied it back and it is the same as that. Because it line that I commented out but didn't test. |
| 10:31.27 | seria-mau | enouf: no, they dont. if i pin for "gnuplot*" this doesnt get applied to gnuplot-nox |
| 10:31.56 | enouf | LamerC: can you pastebin contents of ls -l /etc/rcS.d/ for me |
| 10:33.09 | LamerC | enouf: http://pastebin.com/m34a13e5f |
| 10:34.02 | liable | hmm, git-svn hasvanished on me |
| 10:34.03 | simonrvn | seria-mau: not for packages. for packages you need to provide the full name. you can however do Package: * |
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| 10:34.58 | seria-mau | simonrvn: yes, that's what i wanted to know. any reason why there's no such feature? |
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| 10:37.21 | cydork | liable: you fail.. |
| 10:37.25 | LamerC | brb |
| 10:37.36 | enouf | LamerC: yep lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 2009-02-04 15:42 S70x11-common -> ../init.d/x11-common |
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| 10:38.40 | webmind | hmm, is there an eta when 2.6.27 will come into sid? |
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| 10:38.56 | cydork | webmind: when it's ready.. |
| 10:39.05 | cydork | ducks! |
| 10:39.08 | webmind | cydork, the eternal debian answer? |
| 10:39.17 | webmind | :) |
| 10:39.30 | cydork | webmind: yes.. |
| 10:39.40 | webmind | but no clue whatsoever? |
| 10:39.52 | webmind | I'd expect that it has been in experimental for a while now? |
| 10:40.28 | Misterjos | hey, i updated my debian lenny to stable, but now on startup samba isnt starting up (/etc/init.d/samba restart Stopping Samba daemons: nmbdstart-stop-daemon: warning: failed to kill 9321: No such process |
| 10:40.28 | Misterjos | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:40.46 | cydork | webmind: afik i remember oftc has a debian-kernel channel. |
| 10:41.06 | enouf | seria-mau: then i misunderstood your question |
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| 10:41.15 | webmind | yes, it has 3 people |
| 10:41.27 | webmind | including chanserv |
| 10:41.42 | cydork | webmind: best luck then.. |
| 10:41.49 | webmind | thanks. |
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| 10:42.31 | enouf | webmind: you can grab .27 from buildserver if you can't wait |
| 10:42.41 | enouf | and/or .28 |
| 10:43.00 | maligor | why they switch to .27 |
| 10:43.00 | webmind | I know |
| 10:43.08 | m4rtijn | hmm.. should X11 be in /etc/x11 folder..? |
| 10:43.09 | webmind | maligor, ext4 |
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| 10:43.14 | maligor | .28 has stabilized pretty nicely |
| 10:43.17 | enouf | webmind: 3 people eh? |
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| 10:43.30 | webmind | enouf, but I was hoping not to mix dists |
| 10:43.30 | enouf | webmind: i've been there for days - tehere |
| 10:43.34 | maligor | webmind, erhm.. I think that was added in ext4, but I might remember wrong |
| 10:43.38 | maligor | err.. .28 |
| 10:43.39 | enouf | atleast 40-50 |
| 10:43.53 | webmind | maligor, ah, hmm I thought .27 |
| 10:43.56 | maligor | beats me how I replaced .28 with ext4, heh |
| 10:44.06 | enouf | well - i guess on amount - but it's not single digits |
| 10:44.27 | webmind | enouf, on this network? |
| 10:44.36 | webmind | or is this not oftc? |
| 10:44.38 | enouf | m4rtijn: what? |
| 10:44.43 | maligor | webmind, well, you could be right, not that important tho |
| 10:44.56 | enouf | irc.debian.org |
| 10:45.05 | webmind | maligor, well. it isI want ext4 support :) |
| 10:45.07 | enouf | irc.oftc.net |
| 10:45.09 | enouf | same |
| 10:45.21 | seria-mau | enouf: no problem :) |
| 10:45.25 | webmind | ah.. this is freenode |
| 10:45.34 | maligor | webmind, just don't keep boot on ext4 if you use grub |
| 10:45.47 | webmind | maligor, I know :) thanks. |
| 10:45.50 | cydork | webmind: oftc is official now days.. so you should see more people there.. |
| 10:45.53 | enouf | <webmind> hmm, is there an eta when 2.6.27 will come into sid? <== sid is "<webmind> enouf, but I was hoping not to mix dists" ????? |
| 10:45.55 | enouf | how? |
| 10:46.21 | m4rtijn | I just installed the newest stable debian release.. my monitor shows "out of range" on startup .. so im guessing debian is starting X11 |
| 10:46.29 | webmind | enouf, I'd rather not mix packages from say experimental into unstable |
| 10:46.36 | m4rtijn | so I use ctrl alt F1 to goto console.. |
| 10:46.46 | m4rtijn | and now am looking for the X11 config |
| 10:46.52 | m4rtijn | but I have no /etc/x11 dir |
| 10:47.05 | m4rtijn | only /usr/shared/ and /var/lib/ |
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| 10:47.26 | m4rtijn | X11 |
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| 10:47.29 | enouf | webmind: why not? |
| 10:47.40 | enouf | webmind: i mean especially if they |
| 10:47.51 | enouf | from kernel buildserver only |
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| 10:48.22 | webmind | enouf, if they whaT? |
| 10:48.25 | webmind | s/T/t/ |
| 10:48.39 | enouf | m4rtijn: man xorg.conf and add Vert abd Hor Refresh rate frequency values |
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| 10:49.10 | UwenDuz | hi how can I know what application generated a particular core file ? |
| 10:49.21 | enouf | webmind: ? |
| 10:49.21 | enouf | [05:45:12] <enouf> webmind: i mean especially if they+ are + 05:45:23] <enouf> from kernel buildserver only |
| 10:49.42 | enouf | UwenDuz: depends |
| 10:49.48 | webmind | enouf, ah, there was no 'are' here |
| 10:49.49 | nsadmin | m4rtijn maybe you have no /etc/x11 but you might have a /etc/X11 |
| 10:49.50 | Spida | which nvidia-kernel-sources do I need for a GeForce FX 5200 on 2.6.28.6? |
| 10:49.56 | UwenDuz | enouf, on what ? |
| 10:49.58 | enouf | some are generated via .postinst - grep the dir/ |
| 10:50.24 | UwenDuz | enouf, I have a program that is throwing a dump every other second..but I dont know which one |
| 10:50.29 | Misterjos | hey, nmbd doesnt start on boot, how can i make it start automatically after boot? |
| 10:50.43 | enouf | webmind: it was supposed to be + 're .. but my huge finhgers always hit Enter by accident |
| 10:50.50 | webmind | ah |
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| 10:51.27 | enouf | UwenDuz: what does that have to do with your original question? |
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| 10:51.47 | enouf | !search |
| 10:51.47 | dpkg | Please search for things rather than just asking: 'apt-cache search regex'. Find which package owns a file: 'dpkg -S /bin/foo' or 'aptitude install apt-file; apt-file update; apt-file search foo'. Use http://packages.debian.org/ or '/msg dpkg find filename' if you're already here. '/msg dpkg listkeys <thing>' to find factoids containing <thing>. See http://wiki.debian.org/WhereIsIt, or <bot help> |
| 10:52.15 | Internat | anyone happen to remember the factoid name for building your own debian repo for custom packages? |
| 10:52.17 | UwenDuz | enouf ?? |
| 10:52.46 | m4rtijn | nsadmin: hehe, I guess this is the most common windows user who tries linux mistake.. case senstivity |
| 10:52.47 | m4rtijn | arr |
| 10:53.18 | enouf | UwenDuz: grep -iR string /var/lib/dpkg/info/ |
| 10:53.30 | enouf | UwenDuz: grep -iRl string /var/lib/dpkg/info/ |
| 10:53.42 | cydork | Internat: own repo |
| 10:53.49 | enouf | !mirror |
| 10:53.50 | dpkg | debian mirrors is probably http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt | ask me about <apt-spy> or <netselect-apt> | to make a mirror, see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ or http://lists.debian.org/debian-mirrors/ |
| 10:53.58 | enouf | see to make mirror |
| 10:54.18 | Internat | thanks! |
| 10:54.32 | cydork | !own repo |
| 10:54.32 | dpkg | Custom-Package-Repository-HOWTO: [1, as root] apt-get install dpkg-dev; [2, as user] mkdir -p ~/public_html/foo; cd ~/public_html/foo; [3] cp /your/packages.deb .; [4] dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null | gzip > Packages.gz; [5, as root] echo >> /etc/apt/sources.list "deb http://localhost/~username/foo ./"; [OR, if no local web server set up] echo >> /etc/apt/sources.list "deb file:///home/username/public_html/foo ./";, or see <reprepro> |
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| 10:54.50 | UwenDuz | enouf, I think you are mistaking me for someone else |
| 10:54.50 | enouf | cydork: oh ... nice - never saw that one :-P |
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| 10:55.51 | enouf | UwenDuz: no i'm not |
| 10:56.24 | enouf | Both the search factoid and my grep stuff pertain |
| 10:57.13 | enouf | Unless. .. i misunderstand what you mean by "application" |
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| 10:57.48 | enouf | and "program" ... |
| 10:58.05 | enouf | LamerC: yep lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 2009-02-04 15:42 S70x11-common -> ../init.d/x11-common |
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| 10:58.26 | LamerC | ? |
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| 10:59.09 | enouf | LamerC: thought that script doesn't seem to do much, if you don't reboot (or some other magic), that doesn't get run when you restart X or gdm |
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| 10:59.44 | enouf | LamerC: that's from /etc/rcS.d/ |
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| 11:00.33 | LamerC | Oh, ok. Well I did a few tests just now and I rebooted each time. With or without the dri line commented out, and even with xorg.conf completely gone I still get the problems. I was just a fluke of good luck earlier that I didn't |
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| 11:01.16 | bolt-wor1 | !reboot |
| 11:01.17 | dpkg | You want to reboot for WHAT?? If it's not a new kernel or a hardware change, you probably don't need to reboot. Ask me about <qotd2>. |
| 11:01.35 | stimpie | Iam suddenly getting a error: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG A70DAF536070D3A1 |
| 11:01.49 | LamerC | But after changing the screen resolution a couple times in each case the problem still came back. Either 1. blank screen or 2. Vertical flipping and somehow moving the mouse controls how much I can see or how fast it flips |
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| 11:02.04 | JyZyXEL | whats the fastest way to read serial port? |
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| 11:02.31 | bolt-wor1 | binary |
| 11:02.32 | LamerC | dpkg: I know but I don't know all these scripts right now so I'm still learning them. |
| 11:02.33 | dpkg | LamerC: You are moron #1 |
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| 11:03.01 | JyZyXEL | no but what tool |
| 11:03.19 | enouf | LamerC: listen |
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| 11:03.59 | p0g0 | JyZyXEL: minicom? |
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| 11:04.16 | grif1 | hi |
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| 11:04.22 | jackweb_ | Hello! What's the fastest way to install Debian testing? I've been looking for some .iso's, but they are only with Lenny, stable. Have I to install stable and then dist-upgrade into squeezy? |
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| 11:04.50 | enouf | LamerC: nm .. |
| 11:04.53 | enouf | sigh |
| 11:05.15 | JyZyXEL | p0g0 does it let you see the data coming to serialport? |
| 11:05.17 | bolt-wor1 | jackweb_: Lenny _is_ testing |
| 11:05.19 | enouf | you have issues using ctrl+alt+NumPad+/- ? |
| 11:05.22 | themill | bolt-wor1: err... |
| 11:05.31 | LamerC | yes |
| 11:05.31 | bolt-wor1 | themill: oh. i'm out of date |
| 11:05.34 | bolt-wor1 | themill: cool |
| 11:05.35 | enouf | cycling through resolutions? |
| 11:05.40 | jackweb_ | :] |
| 11:05.54 | LamerC | in deb4 they did just fine but in deb5 they aren't doing anything |
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| 11:06.33 | p0g0 | JyZyXEL: it shows the contols lines iirc, and parses serial data in all the glorious combinations like n81, e72, at speeds from 110 baud to 256k iirc. |
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| 11:07.18 | p0g0 | JyZyXEL: read it's man page for more info. |
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| 11:07.47 | enouf | LamerC: i can only guess the modelines are incorrect or something is affecting them - can you comment out the UseFBDev in xorg.conf ? |
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| 11:07.59 | JyZyXEL | og ok |
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| 11:08.29 | LamerC | I havent tried that yet. It's currently set to false. |
| 11:08.40 | enouf | LamerC: and you're sure the Hor/Vert refresh ranges are correct in xorg.conf ? |
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| 11:08.48 | enouf | I know |
| 11:08.53 | enouf | just comment out the line |
| 11:09.14 | enouf | judd: versions libgl1-mesa-dri |
| 11:09.16 | judd | enouf: libgl1-mesa-dri -- etch: 6.5.1-0.6 lenny: 7.0.3-7 sid: 7.0.3-7 squeeze: 7.0.3-7 experimental: 7.3-1 |
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| 11:12.00 | gunkamanti | hi, is there a command line program to move files, but merge existing folders? mv seems to be unable to do so, but progs like konqueror do it fine. |
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| 11:13.00 | enouf | JyZyXEL: screen /dev/ttyS0 9600,n8 |
| 11:13.39 | enouf | gunkamanti: mmv |
| 11:14.16 | enouf | perhaps .. |
| 11:14.26 | JyZyXEL | enouf nice! |
| 11:14.34 | gunkamanti | thx! have been looking for this for ages :) i'll check if it does what i need. |
| 11:14.45 | enouf | themill: i never slept yet |
| 11:15.00 | rpaulson | in the debian lenny install I am asked if I want to create a "minimal" initrd image.. how do I do this when I upgrade from etch to lenny? |
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| 11:15.35 | liable | rpaulson: no need to worry about it. just upgrade |
| 11:15.38 | enouf | rpaulson: does it ask you? |
| 11:16.05 | firefox | Using Radeon driver in xorg... glxgears error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1:? |
| 11:16.16 | enouf | rpaulson: the new kernel gets installed, you'll get a new fresh initrd made and installed - you have original Debian linux-image-version pkgs installed? |
| 11:16.20 | liable | enouf: in expert mode, d-i asks. it just builds the initrd with loaded modules, versus most the modules |
| 11:16.42 | enouf | liable: ahh .. most vs minimal |
| 11:16.51 | gunkamanti | hm, "mmv refuses to move or create directories"... nice program to have nevertheless |
| 11:16.52 | enouf | in /initramfs.conf |
| 11:17.11 | enouf | gunkamanti: oh? ugh - mv -p does that |
| 11:17.22 | enouf | sorry |
| 11:17.29 | enouf | mkdir -p i meant |
| 11:18.03 | firefox | easy fix? I google all, but it ends up having my symlink... I did fool around with xorg a bit and finally got it loading with the radeon driver. would the ati driover work? |
| 11:18.17 | gunkamanti | i'm trying to move a directory tree with files, but some of the files are already there. |
| 11:18.19 | enouf | LIBGL_DEBUG= somehing |
| 11:18.25 | gunkamanti | there = at the destination |
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| 11:18.52 | enouf | firefox: did you have ati drivers installed prior? |
| 11:19.18 | firefox | I have the xorg-video- radeon and ati installed |
| 11:19.36 | enouf | firefox: make sure your xorg.conf doesn't have references to any parts of it and that libgl1-mesa-dri is up to date and installed as well as -glx |
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| 11:19.58 | firefox | enouf: kk checking |
| 11:20.00 | czeowc | Hi :) Is compizfusion in the Repos (im using testing)? I dont know if its compiz or compiz fusion waht i find in the Repos. Im looking fo a HowTo to Install CompizFusion but they are all from 2007. |
| 11:20.02 | enouf | firefox: sorry, i meant fglrx ... my bad |
| 11:20.12 | enouf | firefox: did you have fglrx drivers installed prior? |
| 11:20.19 | firefox | ohh no |
| 11:20.26 | enouf | ok |
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| 11:20.55 | firefox | enouf: no fglrx.. my card is old and cristy.. fglrx never worked its a fresh install now |
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| 11:21.03 | Farhadix | firefox, http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7431 |
| 11:21.06 | enouf | gunkamanti: maybe some unisync app? i'm not sure - i forget now |
| 11:21.17 | enouf | gunkamanti: rsync should suffice |
| 11:21.24 | firefox | farh: ty checking it out |
| 11:21.40 | gunkamanti | yeah, i should probably learn to use rsync anyway... |
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| 11:21.49 | czeowc | Or how can i find out if i have compiz or compizfusion installed? |
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| 11:22.20 | enouf | gunkamanti: just start with rsync -a --progress and slowly add options to tweak |
| 11:22.37 | simonkey | Afternoon people, anyone care to help me replacing exim4 with postfix? |
| 11:22.37 | Farhadix | firefox, you can type name complete by typing first characters and then press Tab. |
| 11:23.04 | simonkey | i'm guessing a simple removal of exim4 and install of postfix just won't cut it |
| 11:23.31 | firefox | Farh: thats for fglrx. I just want to stick to the open one.. my card is a M7 its an older laptop and fglrx seems to break things.. |
| 11:23.44 | firefox | Farhadix: lol... learn something new everyday |
| 11:24.23 | simonkey | my guess was faulty, installing postfix automatically removes exim |
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| 11:26.10 | zxd | hi |
| 11:26.17 | zxd | where's the link that explains how to build packages |
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| 11:26.24 | zxd | create |
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| 11:27.06 | enouf | !package basics |
| 11:27.06 | dpkg | package basics is, like, The Basics of the Package Management System, Package format, and how to make packages. http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-pkg_basics.en.html or see Debian New Maintainers' Guide at http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ |
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| 11:28.00 | enouf | czeowc: i''d imagine by |
| 11:28.14 | enouf | a dpkg -l \*compiz* |
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| 11:28.46 | enouf | !compiz |
| 11:28.46 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, compiz is a window and composite manager that uses OpenGL for rendering. It runs on <Xgl> and <AIGLX>. It is in <etch> and can run when AIGLX and composite are enabled for your X server. Read http://wiki.debian.org/Compiz for configuration and usage details. Current state of Compiz (et al) in unstable can be found at http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/Compiz http://www.compiz.org/, #compiz @ irc.freenode.net. |
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| 11:29.10 | henhir | Hi there, I can not run eclipse, the problem might be very debian specific I am running amd64 I keep getting an error http://pastebin.com/m5be1542 |
| 11:29.47 | enouf | eclipse is java? is hat a 64bit version? |
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| 11:30.28 | enouf | henhir: er |
| 11:30.30 | enouf | Errors * Unknown post id, it may have expired or been deleted |
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| 11:31.43 | henhir | http://pastebin.com/m5be15422 there was a number missing, this should work |
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| 11:32.02 | henhir | eclipse is a java application I think |
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| 11:32.14 | simonkey | eclipse is java, yes |
| 11:32.27 | g00se_ | Trying to use http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/debootstrap/debootstrap_1.0.10ubuntu1~intrepid1_all.deb to build a chroot from Debian. I'm getting "./usr/sbin/debootstrap: line 23: /usr/share/debootstrap/functions: No such file or directory" so it looks like it's not correctly relativising paths. Am i missing something? |
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| 11:32.57 | prxtien | hey all, im using the julius voice recognition software with alsa, i need to use it with line-in instead of microphone port, does anyone know how i configure alsa default recording device? |
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| 11:33.22 | Spida | which nvidia-kernel-sources do I need for a GeForce FX 5200 on 2.6.28.6? |
| 11:33.55 | simonkey | dovecot is not available in debian repos? |
| 11:34.08 | simonkey | ah darn |
| 11:34.10 | simonkey | dovecot-imap |
| 11:34.14 | enouf | henhir: is eclipse a 64bit version? |
| 11:34.29 | enouf | henhir: file /bin/ls says? |
| 11:34.42 | enouf | henhir: any chroot involved? |
| 11:34.59 | enouf | try maybe; update-java-alternatives |
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| 11:36.06 | henhir | Eclipse is no 64 bit version afaik |
| 11:36.08 | enouf | all these friggin video card issues ... ugh |
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| 11:36.46 | enouf | henhir: then .. er how did you install it? - and answer ALL questions please |
| 11:38.18 | enouf | prxtien: alsamixer - hit '/' key for some info |
| 11:38.25 | henhir | I have a 64 bit version of eclipse that comes with lenny and I have downloaded some other versions x86 which do not work at all |
| 11:38.37 | enouf | prxtien: run 'alsaconf' to set up default device |
| 11:38.50 | enouf | prxtien: /msg dpkg alsa checklist |
| 11:38.56 | henhir | /bin/ls: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.8, stripped |
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| 11:39.33 | enouf | so why did you say? --> <henhir> Eclipse is no 64 bit version afaik |
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| 11:40.24 | henhir | cause that statement is 50% true since I am trying both |
| 11:40.43 | enouf | not smart .. |
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| 11:41.03 | enouf | remove the 32bit versions, if a 64bit one is avail and you want to not use a chroot |
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| 11:42.33 | zxd | where does debian keep record of what is the current default locale ? |
| 11:42.47 | henhir | Only 64 version is installed system wide. |
| 11:42.51 | enouf | prxtien: also have a look at man arecord and man amixer |
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| 11:43.08 | enouf | zxd: depends, why? |
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| 11:43.20 | zxd | enouf, why depends? |
| 11:43.27 | enouf | versions |
| 11:43.31 | prxtien | thanks enouf, unfortunatly running alsaconf messed up my permissions on /dev/* |
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| 11:43.51 | enouf | prxtien: when? just now? |
| 11:44.07 | prxtien | yeah |
| 11:44.10 | prxtien | i try to login and get |
| 11:44.11 | prxtien | -bash: /dev/null: Permission denied |
| 11:44.11 | prxtien | ^C |
| 11:44.11 | prxtien | james@slinky:~$ |
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| 11:44.13 | enouf | wtf? |
| 11:44.36 | enouf | bangs head on desk |
| 11:44.43 | rpaulson | enouf: I'm not worrying and yes it does install with upgrade... but I want the feature that is presented to me under a fresh lenny install: create a _minimal_ initrd which will boot on the hardware on which it is installed |
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| 11:45.02 | zxd | enouf, in etch |
| 11:45.21 | enouf | rpaulson: during installation? |
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| 11:45.28 | enouf | rpaulson: use expert mode |
| 11:45.46 | enouf | zxd: perhaps in /etc/default/locale and /etc/environment |
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| 11:46.03 | enouf | !locales |
| 11:46.03 | dpkg | Use `dpkg-reconfigure locales' to get it up and running. This generates locale definitions and also edits /etc/default/locale which sets the $LANG environment variable at login time. |
| 11:46.09 | enouf | zxd: ^^^^ |
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| 11:47.10 | enouf | rpaulson: i'm told in expert mode you'll be presented with that question |
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| 11:48.17 | zxd | enouf, how does it know to set other variables from LANG , like LC_CTYPE |
| 11:48.20 | enouf | rpaulson: the actual config (once installed) for that is in file:///etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf # MODULES: [ most | netboot | dep | list ] |
| 11:48.22 | LamerC | I'm back just for a second. I'll look more into it later. But I've remember had problems even under windows the graphics card was always wierding out and sometimes freezing up the system. Anyway thanks for the help though |
| 11:48.35 | enouf | zxd: how does it know? magic |
| 11:48.54 | enouf | zxd: type 'locale' as a user |
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| 11:49.21 | enouf | LamerC_Snoozing: afff - hardware issue? O/Cing? |
| 11:49.59 | enouf | you really should've mentioned that much much earlier ... grahhh |
| 11:50.10 | enouf | bangs head on amphi_'s desk |
| 11:50.46 | zxd | enouf, it still dosen't answer the question though |
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| 11:51.31 | LamerC_Snoozing | Well I got this particular computer from a neighbor free got sick of fighting virus so gave it to me. |
| 11:51.34 | enouf | dude, strace the fucker - what do you want from me? i answered as best i could to your original question |
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| 11:53.10 | enouf | LamerC_Snoozing: time for some PC health - get a better PSU, check for o/cing, check all BIOS settings - re iflash the fucker if needed - and mae sure all PCI/AGP cards and RAM are seated properly, and CPU stays cool - and NO dust bunnies live inside |
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| 11:54.20 | LamerC_Snoozing | Sorry if I caused any trouble. But i'm going on 38 hrs and need rest so I might look into it more later. I'll probably purchase a cheap graphics card instead. |
| 11:54.46 | enouf | zxd: install manpages-dev and then updatedb, then $ apropos locale |
| 11:54.50 | enouf | might help |
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| 11:55.27 | enouf | LamerC_Snoozing: you have an open AGP / or PCIe slot? |
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| 11:56.55 | LamerC_Snoozing | no PCIe but an AGP. |
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| 12:00.14 | enouf | zxd: out of the many (5-20) man pages that apropos returns, i think $ man 1 localedef will shed some light |
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| 12:00.30 | zxd | enouf, it's Ok , i dont need to know that badly |
| 12:00.35 | zxd | thank you for the effort |
| 12:00.37 | enouf | AGP is ok - atleast not straight PCI |
| 12:01.23 | zxd | does anyone know how to install a custom certificate into iceweasel |
| 12:01.49 | zxd | globally for all users |
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| 12:06.14 | themill | enouf: go to bed you crazy man! |
| 12:06.25 | enouf | !!! |
| 12:06.25 | dpkg | I'm not your csh prompt! |
| 12:06.40 | simonkey | not? |
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| 12:11.56 | seria-mau | i have several problems with lenny kernel here: 1) network interface is a realtek 8139 - watchdogs jumps in when i copy at a rate of ~3MB/s 2) sata drive using sata_sil driver freezes on occasion - the sata port reset that worked in earlier kernel versions (after 2.6.18) fails at resetting the port and just loops in the EH routine |
| 12:12.45 | seria-mau | solution for 2) with kernel 2.6.18 (had no EH at all) was to boot with acpi=off noapic kernel parameters. this doesn't work anymore |
| 12:13.48 | seria-mau | last time the drive froze,i tried magic sysrq keys, but they didnt work. do i have to boot with a special parameter to turn them on? |
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| 12:14.14 | enouf | you need kernel.sysrq = 1 in /etc/sysctl.conf |
| 12:14.55 | enouf | the MAGIC already is set to =y in debian kernels |
| 12:15.13 | enouf | do /msg dpkg sysrq |
| 12:15.53 | enouf | seria-mau: are your sata BIOS settings set to AHCI mode? |
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| 12:16.31 | enouf | acpi=off could cause your SMP pc to not be SMP anymore, might even only enable 1 of 2 cores |
| 12:16.38 | seria-mau | enouf: i can't set anything regarding sata modes or ide fallback in my bios |
| 12:16.40 | rpaulson | enouf: yeah, I know.. I got the question during a fresh install of lenny, and am looking for how to do it in _not_ fresh install, i.e. myself |
| 12:16.47 | seria-mau | no smp here |
| 12:16.56 | enouf | seria-mau: aww c;mon - there has to be something |
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| 12:17.02 | rpaulson | enouf: so, do you know what of those I should set ? |
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| 12:17.09 | seria-mau | enouf: never, ever buy toshiba... |
| 12:17.24 | enouf | rpaulson: wait, what? what do you mean NOT a fresh install? that's an Upgrade then? |
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| 12:17.55 | enouf | seria-mau: nope, havem't and won't - the last best thing they made was my 1999 DVD-ROM drive ;-) |
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| 12:18.31 | enouf | rpaulson: is it not clear in that file's comments? |
| 12:18.32 | enouf | # dep - Try and guess which modules to load. |
| 12:18.52 | rpaulson | enouf: oh, so that is what is called minimal then.. |
| 12:18.52 | enouf | it does the 'guessing' by noticing what is already loaded |
| 12:19.00 | rpaulson | I see |
| 12:19.02 | rpaulson | thank you |
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| 12:19.36 | rpaulson | enouf: basically what I was asking was I saw a feature in the installer which I wanted to replicate on another machine |
| 12:19.55 | rpaulson | enouf: I'll try dep :) |
| 12:19.56 | Ranieri | is there a place I can download debian 4.0 iso image? I've found only debian 5 iso images :( |
| 12:20.07 | enouf | rpaulson: note; if you have LVM, raid, mdadm, you MIGHT need to list modules in file:///etc/initramfs-tools/modules |
| 12:20.43 | enouf | rpaulson: but the mdadm stuff is mostly fine, on it's own, does the right thing - LVM and crypto sometimes need some help |
| 12:20.55 | rpaulson | enouf: okay, thanks for the heads up |
| 12:21.09 | enouf | Ranieri: look for oldstable |
| 12:21.21 | enouf | Ranieri: but why? |
| 12:21.22 | rpaulson | enouf: final question on this issue: how do I trigger a regeneration of the initrd image? |
| 12:21.45 | enouf | rpaulson: man update-initramfs (it says so in the comments ;-)) |
| 12:22.34 | enouf | rpaulson: dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r) is generally enough most times, but to be sure - update-initramfs |
| 12:22.40 | seria-mau | strange. no lockup in single user mode so far |
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| 12:22.51 | Ranieri | enouf: I'm facing a problem with a debian 4 server... in centos everything works fine, but when using debian 4 its not... its the reason I need to download debian 4... to do my tests |
| 12:22.55 | enouf | rpaulson: a new kernel install calls mkinitramfs-kpkg upon install |
| 12:23.31 | enouf | rpaulson: that is., a debian linux-image-pkg-version does |
| 12:23.53 | enouf | rpaulson: hence; make-kpkg when building debian kernels ;-) |
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| 12:24.24 | enouf | Ranieri: ok, suit yourself |
| 12:25.15 | rpaulson | enouf: okay thanks! |
| 12:25.16 | rpaulson | :) |
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| 12:25.31 | rpaulson | enouf: I only use stock kernels so I'll be fine |
| 12:25.41 | rpaulson | that is - debian stock kernels |
| 12:26.13 | p0g0 | liable: re the lenny upgrade on this nehemiah- my notion that I'd misconfigured the kernel doesn't seem to pan out. Installing the stock 686 and 486 kernels as well as rebuilding the one I'd suspected- all manifest the same wierdness, internet events that happen in short time frames are OK, but all else time out. Very strange. |
| 12:26.55 | p0g0 | liable: I may try a 2.4 kernel next, I guess. |
| 12:27.29 | jaggz- | has anyone got projectM (libvisual-projectM) to work under debian/lenny? |
| 12:27.32 | liable | p0g0: hmm, you might want to ping the kernel-team. be better than mailing the kernel.org list |
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| 12:27.51 | liable | p0g0: btw, can you tar up wombat and his DB for me? |
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| 12:29.02 | p0g0 | liable: mebbe, this is a production box for me, and I have to crash my net to test it, that makes it hard to negotiate with internet support... sure, wombat needs multiple personalities- can I do that in 12-24 hours? |
| 12:29.07 | enouf | rpaulson: once installed - you might notice how /etc/initramfs-tools/ doesn't quite look populated/complete - look in /usr/share/initramfs-tools/* .. what i do is cp the initrd-img.version somewhere out of the way - then zcat ./initrd.img | cpio -i and peek inside ;-) |
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| 12:29.36 | liable | p0g0: no rush at all for it. the next few months is a suitable time frame :) |
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| 12:30.42 | hakr | <3 debian |
| 12:31.13 | p0g0 | liable: the copy I have will have mis-referenced pointers to madwifi.org (ie: Before Alvin's pissantness), so you'll need to fix those...He'll also ID as HairyNose, as wombat is already on line. |
| 12:31.13 | liable | p0g0: ouch on the kernel bug though |
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| 12:31.27 | p0g0 | liable: it's a Really Neat bug tho. |
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| 12:31.36 | liable | p0g0: yeah, no worries |
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| 12:32.21 | p0g0 | liable: and I feel better, afaict, I didn't screw this up...I had thought I'd muffed the kernel. |
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| 12:32.48 | liable | p0g0: yeah, your initial complaint had me thinking you had too |
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| 12:33.25 | liable | only because i had already seen a similar issue |
| 12:33.47 | p0g0 | liable: and I have to wonder what the daily times of pakistan, Bloomberg, google news have that all the rest of those news sites that I've tested with don't... |
| 12:35.01 | liable | p0g0: eh? |
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| 12:35.36 | p0g0 | liable: Those are sites that always work, but nearly everything else I try just times out. It's not DNS issues either. |
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| 12:36.01 | p0g0 | liable: it's something abuot how fast they reply to the initial requests. |
| 12:36.46 | liable | p0g0: i thought you were having nat issues with iptables? |
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| 12:37.30 | p0g0 | liable: I'll keep poking at it and if I ever figure it out I'll report that- Yes, I have that error, but it's not due to missing modules or a misconfiguration... |
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| 12:38.23 | p0g0 | liable: The superficial manifestation is the the timeouts, the root of it, well, I get, at least, that nat error. |
| 12:39.00 | geophoenix | where can i download the new testing netinst image ? |
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| 12:39.12 | liable | p0g0: hmm, ok, that makes it more intriguing |
| 12:39.14 | p0g0 | liable: the rude thing is that I can no longer update the box as is- the working system is stable, pre-lenny |
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| 12:40.11 | p0g0 | liable: anyway, I have to get to working on work, I'll let you know if anything jubilant happens. |
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| 12:40.24 | liable | obcecado: ok, good luck with it |
| 12:40.37 | liable | meh, p0g0 ^^ |
| 12:40.45 | liable | obcecado: sorry, wrong nick |
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| 12:44.31 | JyZyXEL | bootup hangs in Calibrating delay using timer specific routine.. 3612.23 BogoMIPS (lpj=7224468) |
| 12:45.30 | gunkamanti | hi, anybody has an idea when vlc 0.9 will appear in testing? |
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| 12:45.49 | J_P | hi all |
| 12:45.54 | J_P | teratoma: hello.. |
| 12:45.59 | streuner__ | judd, versions vlc |
| 12:46.00 | judd | streuner__: vlc -- etch: 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-5.1+etch2 etch-security: 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-5.1+etch2 lenny: 0.8.6.h-4+lenny2 lenny-security: 0.8.6.h-4+lenny2 sid: 0.8.6.h-5 squeeze: 0.8.6.h-5 experimental: 0.9.8a-1 |
| 12:46.09 | J_P | teratoma: are you here ? |
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| 12:46.37 | streuner__ | gunkamanti: there isnt a 0.9 in unstable/sid, so dont expect it soon |
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| 12:46.55 | streuner__ | gunkamanti: there are some other versions out there, just selfbaked... |
| 12:46.55 | gunkamanti | ok, thx. |
| 12:47.21 | gunkamanti | 0.8 has some issues with hotkeys, that's why i was hoping for this easy solution... |
| 12:47.25 | streuner | higher than the version of experimental |
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| 12:47.53 | streuner | ever tried xine or mplayer? |
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| 12:48.20 | gunkamanti | i used xine for years, then mplayer for years. tried vlc yesterday, and liked it. |
| 12:48.36 | streuner | hm |
| 12:48.40 | gunkamanti | i had no idea how advanced vlc is. |
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| 12:51.19 | J_P | hey all, how I apply a timeout in wget to getout after 5 seconds for example? |
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| 12:54.07 | J_P | I try wget http://127.0.0.1:8081 --timeout=2 but not works. I try for 2 seconds and try agaim. I not wouold like try agaim. I wnat try a time only. is possible? I try man wget but not find nothing about not-repeat.. |
| 12:54.15 | J_P | any idea? |
| 12:54.30 | thasp | what files do i have to copy from one system to another(excluding home directories/permissions) for their user accounts to be valid? /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow? |
| 12:55.30 | petemc | thasp: you'll need group information |
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| 13:01.19 | nsadmin | thasp: I thought we dealt with that question yesterday |
| 13:01.48 | nsadmin | passwd, gpasswd, group, shadow |
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| 13:02.49 | nsadmin | BUT man {user,group}{add,mod,del} login passwd |
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| 13:04.04 | nsadmin | also man 5 passwd group gshadow shadow |
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| 13:04.22 | Viper-7 | can anyone help a coder stuck in compiler hell? heh - http://pastebin.com/m7165ff23 |
| 13:05.41 | nsadmin | Viper-7 so I see you have a build log there. what specifically is your question about it? what line? (I'm not going to read the whole thing) |
| 13:06.08 | Viper-7 | well where the errors start heh |
| 13:06.10 | Viper-7 | im getting this: |
| 13:06.12 | Viper-7 | /root/dmx4linux-2.6.1/drivers/dmxdev/dmx_dev.c:23:28: error: dmxdev/dmxdevP.h: No such file or directory |
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| 13:06.19 | Viper-7 | but i know the file exists and is in the include path |
| 13:06.22 | nsadmin | which is on which line? |
| 13:06.28 | Viper-7 | 65 |
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| 13:06.37 | nsadmin | look at the pastebin, there are line numbers |
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| 13:06.47 | Viper-7 | yep, line 65 of the paste |
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| 13:07.10 | nsadmin | dmxdev/dmxdevP.h: No such file or directory |
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| 13:07.32 | Viper-7 | check the last 2 lines of the paste (199 & 200) |
| 13:07.36 | Viper-7 | its there |
| 13:07.39 | nsadmin | on the level of that error message, a single .h file is missing |
| 13:08.11 | nsadmin | but it's possible that indicates a whole lib or other multifile entity is not installed |
| 13:08.41 | nsadmin | assuming it's some multifile entity, you need to identify it and install it |
| 13:08.45 | nsadmin | btw, it |
| 13:09.04 | nsadmin | is a good bet there is documentation in what you're trying to build |
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| 13:09.26 | nsadmin | which indicates the build requirements you must satisfy in order to build correctly |
| 13:10.29 | Viper-7 | ive been searching and havent turned up much, it seems to be a very thrown together app |
| 13:10.40 | Viper-7 | ive got all the prerequisites listed on their page |
| 13:10.49 | Viper-7 | would there be a way to identify what its missing? |
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| 13:11.12 | Viper-7 | 'The Linux Kernel needs to have the following enabled: "Loadable Module Support/Set version information on all symbols for modules"' |
| 13:11.15 | nsadmin | look at the requirements and compare to the error message on line 65 |
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| 13:12.15 | Viper-7 | "To compile and use the drivers you only need the Linux kernel headers and a recent C compiler (plus the standard tools like make, sh etc)." |
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| 13:12.23 | Viper-7 | thats pretty much all they have to say on the matter :( |
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| 13:12.43 | nsadmin | so have you installed the headers for your running kernel? |
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| 13:13.23 | Viper-7 | yup |
| 13:13.32 | nsadmin | what are you trying to build? |
| 13:13.34 | empiric | hi guys i am getting this msgs on my debian box |
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| 13:13.35 | empiric | t 0000:00:04.4[B] -> GSI 26 (level, low) -> IRQ 74 |
| 13:13.35 | empiric | bnx2: eth0: using MSI |
| 13:13.35 | empiric | ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready |
| 13:13.35 | empiric | bnx2: eth0 NIC Link is Up, 100 Mbps full duplex |
| 13:13.35 | empiric | ADDRCONF(NETD |
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| 13:13.50 | empiric | what this error means |
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| 13:13.59 | empiric | my NIC is doing problem |
| 13:14.03 | nsadmin | !pastebin |
| 13:14.03 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! |
| 13:14.06 | empiric | ok |
| 13:14.08 | IrishDave | hey, I just installed lenny, is there anywhere i can get network manager 0.7? I'm looking support for 3G Usb modems? |
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| 13:14.18 | empiric | nsadmin |
| 13:14.24 | Viper-7 | summoner:/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.26-1-686# uname -a |
| 13:14.25 | Viper-7 | Linux summoner 2.6.26-1-686 #1 SMP Sat Jan 10 18:29:31 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 13:14.29 | empiric | any idea is my broadcom NIC is doing problem |
| 13:14.51 | nsadmin | that looks like a lenny kernel |
| 13:15.03 | Viper-7 | its dmx4linux, http://llg.cubic.org/dmx4linux/ |
| 13:15.05 | Viper-7 | aye its lenny |
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| 13:16.13 | nsadmin | which version are you building? |
| 13:16.24 | Viper-7 | the latest, DMX4Linux 2.6.1 |
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| 13:16.39 | nsadmin | which supposedly fixes a build issue... |
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| 13:17.00 | Viper-7 | last updated: 2008-04-24 |
| 13:17.01 | Viper-7 | :/ |
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| 13:17.12 | Viper-7 | and their snapshot archive doesnt work heh |
| 13:17.56 | Viper-7 | i guess im up for an etch install ? |
| 13:18.22 | nsadmin | well hold up before doing something as drastic as that |
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| 13:18.38 | nsadmin | btw I found the file it' |
| 13:18.42 | nsadmin | s missing |
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| 13:19.00 | nsadmin | apparantly it didn't know where its own includes are |
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| 13:19.10 | Viper-7 | summoner:~/dmx4linux-2.6.1# ls include/dmxdev/ |
| 13:19.10 | Viper-7 | dmxdevP.h fileinfo.h llist.h README |
| 13:19.23 | Viper-7 | its there where im trying to build from, in include/ |
| 13:19.35 | Viper-7 | CFLAGS+=-Wall -O2 -I/root/dmx4linux-2.6.1/include |
| 13:19.44 | Viper-7 | ^^ and it has that in its configure file |
| 13:19.49 | tzanger | hmm |
| 13:19.50 | Viper-7 | which is the path to the include folder |
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| 13:20.35 | tzanger | I aksed dpkg, but I'm not getting the information I need. I know where to get the cd install iso; my question is where do I find the vmlinux/bzimage files for a usb key install? I have them for etch, but I'm unsure as to whether I need new ones for lenny |
| 13:20.40 | nsadmin | ok, let's see if it's getting to the actual compiles |
| 13:21.08 | tzanger | http://people.debian.org/~aba/d-i/images/daily/hd-media/ <-- is that it? |
| 13:21.26 | Viper-7 | some other modules build properly, until it gets to building the dmxdev module/driver |
| 13:21.51 | nsadmin | not sure it's getting there... notice on line 55 for example the CFLAGS thing is there |
| 13:21.52 | nsadmin | but |
| 13:22.20 | nsadmin | on line 64 it doesn't show that |
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| 13:23.13 | nsadmin | so there's still a problem with the build process in that it doesn't pass your -I to the module build |
| 13:23.16 | csgeek | can anyone point me to a decent guide how to install debian in a chroot.. the host machine isn't debian based.. so no apt-get get |
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| 13:23.40 | Viper-7 | can i edit the makefile and pass it manually? |
| 13:23.45 | nsadmin | csgeek: there's a thing called debootstrap that can probably do it |
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| 13:24.24 | nsadmin | Viper-7: yes... notice it's going to a different dir, so the makefile you edit should be close to that dir |
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| 13:24.54 | Viper-7 | $(MAKE) -C dmxdev $@ |
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| 13:24.57 | Viper-7 | in drivers/Makefile |
| 13:24.57 | skibler | is there high probability of breaking an etch server by upgrading libc6 libgnutls and linux-image? |
| 13:25.04 | nardul | Does anyone know anything about Mailscanner and 'lenny'? |
| 13:25.05 | skibler | from the packaging system of course |
| 13:25.10 | Viper-7 | if i add $CFLAGS to that ? |
| 13:25.28 | nsadmin | maybe, or just add the -I |
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| 13:25.30 | csgeek | thanks looking it up now |
| 13:25.44 | Viper-7 | kk sec |
| 13:25.45 | nsadmin | I wonder why it's not passing CFLAGS |
| 13:26.14 | nsadmin | but, erm, whatever :) you're on a possible success track |
| 13:27.26 | Viper-7 | http://pastebin.com/m6529a0c2 |
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| 13:28.48 | nsadmin | look at line 2 |
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| 13:29.13 | jelly | skibler: to versions from stable? There's a definitel ypossibility. |
| 13:29.14 | nsadmin | perhaps you can -temporarily- edit the makefile there |
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| 13:30.02 | Viper-7 | in /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.26-1-686 ? o.O |
| 13:30.09 | nsadmin | yeah |
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| 13:30.21 | nsadmin | =temporarily= |
| 13:30.25 | Viper-7 | hehe kk |
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| 13:30.50 | nettezzaumana | hi all |
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| 13:31.06 | kjs | Hi guys |
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| 13:31.13 | nettezzaumana | does exist a way, howto list packages sorted by install time .. like `rpm -qa --last` in rpm based systems? |
| 13:31.23 | nsadmin | of course we know that's the wrong (but fast) way to do it |
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| 13:31.34 | Viper-7 | hello |
| 13:31.40 | Viper-7 | that worked some magic |
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| 13:32.24 | harpal | Is there a tool which show me bandwith of my Internet connection? |
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| 13:32.29 | nsadmin | the problem is likely that the include dir isn't passed properly |
| 13:32.46 | petemc | harpal: as in what you're using or whats available? |
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| 13:33.20 | Viper-7 | i have a valid device in /dev/dmx :) |
| 13:33.24 | Viper-7 | just trying to test it now hehe |
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| 13:33.31 | nsadmin | so it built? |
| 13:33.55 | nsadmin | what does this thing do? |
| 13:33.55 | kaluva | hi. what's the way to install flashplugin-nonfree for lenny? |
| 13:33.55 | harpal | petemc: ya, Like I have 1 MBPS line, then how much I am using and how much is available, Because at some Time its not 1MBPS line, its look like 256KBPS :( |
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| 13:34.11 | Viper-7 | all the devices built, there were still errors overall, but they were for a sound module, that it highlighted was totally seperate and not required |
| 13:34.35 | Viper-7 | its for a USB > DMX512 adapter, for controlling lasers, lights, foggers, dimmers, etc |
| 13:34.44 | nsadmin | hmm |
| 13:34.53 | nsadmin | and verylights? |
| 13:34.53 | TomasuDlrrp | I'm getting some errors from aptitude/apt-get: gzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--format violated, Im using the us package mirror.. |
| 13:35.12 | nsadmin | is that what they call those things |
| 13:35.24 | Viper-7 | no idea heh, never heard of 'verylights' |
| 13:35.35 | Viper-7 | dmx is a pretty standard thing tho, its just not often hooked up to a computer |
| 13:35.39 | Viper-7 | more just a dimmer control panel |
| 13:35.55 | nsadmin | have you ever seen multple patterns on a stage like plus signs that rotate |
| 13:36.13 | Viper-7 | yeah, DMX will do all that |
| 13:36.28 | nsadmin | ahh, cool |
| 13:36.35 | Viper-7 | the rotating / color changing / patterned lights, laser patterns with custom rotation and effects, etc |
| 13:36.36 | Viper-7 | fun stuff :) |
| 13:37.02 | antii | hahahaha |
| 13:37.04 | nsadmin | do they have like a flat panel of some resolution as a filter"? |
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| 13:37.26 | nsadmin | Viper-7: so is the device working? |
| 13:37.32 | tzanger | can anyone help? I'm trying to install lenny from a usb stick |
| 13:37.46 | kaluva | TomasuDlrrp: During aptitude update? |
| 13:37.47 | tzanger | it says copying the files from the iso failed, but if I execute a shell and look at /cdrom, it is mounted and everything seems fine |
| 13:37.56 | Viper-7 | some do, but most just have static patterns on a rotating disc to select which pattern to show |
| 13:37.57 | TomasuDlrrp | kaluva: yes. |
| 13:38.05 | Viper-7 | still trying to get a test case going, never used em in linux before |
| 13:38.14 | TomasuDlrrp | the gpg key fails too, so it removes most of my repos... |
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| 13:38.50 | nsadmin | Viper-7 how much actual hardware do you have? |
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| 13:39.25 | kaluva | Try again, removing files fom /var/lib/apt/lists/partial |
| 13:39.29 | Viper-7 | nsadmin: not a whole lot, two lasers, a fogger, and a 6 channel dimmer pack |
| 13:39.35 | Viper-7 | http://duckscrossing.com.au/waterfall/index.htm |
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| 13:40.04 | tzanger | I can't seem to manually say "the image is at /cdrom, just use that" |
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| 13:40.46 | Viper-7 | they've all been running through a sound desk up until now, my hope is to build a ruby eventmachine daemon, and get them all controllable wirelessly from a pda :D |
| 13:40.53 | kaluva | TomasuDlrrp: Ant what's "apt-key list" say? |
| 13:41.13 | tzanger | is there another channel here to ask for installation help? |
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| 13:41.17 | nsadmin | sounds cool |
| 13:41.44 | nsadmin | so ruby eventmachines allow use thru pdas? |
| 13:41.49 | Viper-7 | as far as i know its something that hasnt really been done |
| 13:41.56 | Viper-7 | well eventmachine is just a socket daemon |
| 13:42.02 | TomasuDlrrp | kaluva: quite a bit, its got keys for the automatic key, etch, volatile, lenny, etc |
| 13:42.04 | yang | Is there a good manual on installing a second drive into raid, in the LVM+Crypto made installation (might be tricky) ? |
| 13:42.05 | Viper-7 | ill probably have a website to proxy requests through to that |
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| 13:42.13 | nsadmin | so you'd connect to it from the pda? |
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| 13:42.34 | Viper-7 | connect to the website, webserver connects to eventmachine, and it fires off the dmx request |
| 13:42.35 | nsadmin | or the pda would connect to a web site? |
| 13:42.57 | madd_ | tzanger: don't know, didn't you boot from disk? |
| 13:43.09 | Viper-7 | when i say website i mean intranet of course |
| 13:43.15 | Viper-7 | public control isnt something im going for ahah |
| 13:43.17 | kaluva | TomasuDlrrp: Well, what realease are you running, and could you put the output at pastebin.ca? |
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| 13:43.52 | nsadmin | hmm, you mean you don't want people shining lights in the bass player's eyes? |
| 13:43.58 | tzanger | madd_: I have the usb key, syslinux'd, etc. it all boots, I am at the installer. it scans, finds the amd64 iso and mounts it, but "load installer components from an installer iso" fails, but in the shell I can see it's clearly mounted fine on /hd-media |
| 13:43.59 | Viper-7 | :D |
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| 13:44.06 | nsadmin | from like 30k miles away? |
| 13:44.11 | Viper-7 | ahaha |
| 13:44.20 | TomasuDlrrp | kaluva: running sid. and Im thinking its some bug in apt-mirror now. I have it running locally, and it can't seem to update. but I replaced one machine's apt sources with a regular mirror and it seems to be working :( |
| 13:44.33 | tzanger | er sorry on /cdrom. /hd-media is the usb key partition that contains the iso, vmlinuz, initrd and syslinux.cfg |
| 13:44.34 | kaluva | ah, okay then |
| 13:44.45 | Viper-7 | http://www.viper-7.com/laser/ thats what the lasers can do, already have full control over them in windows |
| 13:44.48 | TomasuDlrrp | now I have to find out why apt-mirror is broken :( |
| 13:44.54 | Viper-7 | but i'd like to avoid putting a windows box behind the sound desk heh |
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| 13:45.04 | Viper-7 | blue screen, OOPS shows over folks! |
| 13:45.05 | kaluva | TomasuDlrrp: Well, it's sid... |
| 13:45.09 | nsadmin | tzanger can you establish networkign? |
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| 13:45.27 | TomasuDlrrp | kaluva: it doesn't die all that often for me. I've certianly never seen this error. |
| 13:45.33 | tzanger | nsadmin: I shouldn't need it (I have a full cd iso on the disk) but let me try |
| 13:45.50 | nsadmin | you mean... you don't trust windows stability? -gasp- |
| 13:46.14 | tzanger | nsadmin: it's a marvell 88E8001; not supported by the installer |
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| 13:47.06 | skibler | is there high probability of breaking an etch server by upgrading libc6 libgnutls and linux-image from the packaging system? |
| 13:47.17 | node_ | sometimes when I put my debian laptop on sleep, some minutes after I wake it up the Gnome menus doesn't open when I click them and the keyboard is not resposive, the only way I found to solve the problem is CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE to restart X |
| 13:47.32 | node_ | anybody aware of this bug? |
| 13:47.39 | nsadmin | tzanger: you mentioned mounting something... you mounted the cd? |
| 13:47.51 | jelly | skibler: didn't you ask this already? |
| 13:47.51 | asg | node_: check tuxmobile.org for the model and see if there is any info or workaround there |
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| 13:48.24 | tzanger | nsadmin: no, it mounted the iso automatically (presumably when it scanned for an iso image) |
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| 13:48.46 | nsadmin | so the iso is contained on the usb stick? |
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| 13:49.11 | tzanger | nsadmin: yes. the usb stick has an MBR with syslinux, and a parition with vmlinuz, initrd.gz, syslinux.cfg and the amd64 cd1 iso |
| 13:49.34 | nsadmin | this is a new install? |
| 13:49.53 | tzanger | nsadmin: brand spanking new, yes |
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| 13:50.17 | tzanger | the initrd/vmlinuz is from debian's netinst directory, and the iso from the web site as well |
| 13:50.24 | tzanger | nothing custom |
| 13:50.27 | JyZyXEL | whats the driver for 3C905-TX ? |
| 13:50.38 | JyZyXEL | debian didn't autodetect it on the bootup |
| 13:50.42 | jelly | skibler: There's definitely a possibility. Use a test server first and verify all the services you need still work. |
| 13:51.03 | stew | JyZyXEL: 3c59x |
| 13:51.12 | nsadmin | tzanger and no cd device I suppose |
| 13:51.45 | tzanger | nsadmin: not handy, no. I've done usb installs many times, but for some reason this one is just driving me to drink |
| 13:52.03 | nsadmin | is the kernel and initrd also amd64? |
| 13:52.12 | tzanger | nsadmin: is there any way to continue the install from the shell? I mean /cdrom is mounted correctly, the installer just does not understand it |
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| 13:52.23 | tzanger | nsadmin: ... I *believe* so let me check real quick here |
| 13:52.52 | tzanger | nsadmin: no, it isnt'. i386 kernel. that would do it, but where on earth do I find the amd64 vmlinuz? |
| 13:53.11 | nsadmin | I guess you could dig it out of a package |
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| 13:53.41 | nsadmin | but I'd look at the site first |
| 13:53.46 | nsadmin | also... |
| 13:53.58 | tzanger | I'm looking right now... I've been a linux user for over 10 years, but debian's still a bit of an enigma under the hood |
| 13:54.05 | Viper-7 | it looks like it works, but it... doesnt lol |
| 13:54.08 | Viper-7 | http://pastebin.com/m5ad66f1c i believe thats why heh |
| 13:54.24 | Viper-7 | im guessing more missing includes :S |
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| 13:54.52 | tzanger | Viper-7: that is perfectly normal if you have another module that provides those functions |
| 13:54.57 | nsadmin | could you install a very minimal i386 somewhere on the disk that's like at the end or something? |
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| 13:55.29 | tzanger | nsadmin: yes I probably could. seems kind of a stinky workaround if all I need's an amd64 kernel+initrd |
| 13:56.25 | Viper-7 | well im getting http://pastebin.com/m63d6ea74 when i try to load the driver |
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| 13:56.57 | Viper-7 | is says it needs - The Linux Kernel needs to have the following enabled: "Loadable Module Support/Set version information on all symbols for modules" |
| 13:57.04 | Viper-7 | in the docs heh |
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| 13:57.14 | tzanger | Viper-7: then do it |
| 13:57.28 | tzanger | I did a lot of work with dmx and linux on a contract last year about this time |
| 13:57.41 | Viper-7 | ahh nice heh |
| 13:57.42 | tzanger | it was through an FPGA though, the driver didn't really do much |
| 13:57.43 | valdyn | Viper-7: run depmod -a, then try again |
| 13:58.05 | valdyn | Viper-7: those features are enabled in default debian kernels |
| 13:58.05 | tzanger | nsadmin: http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/main/installer-amd64/current/images/hd-media/ |
| 13:58.05 | Viper-7 | no effect valdyn |
| 13:58.09 | nsadmin | tzanger: I'm thinking it's a specialized initrd... normally installing a debian kernel package builds an initrd appropriate for the machine the kernel package is installed on |
| 13:58.10 | Viper-7 | hmm kk |
| 13:58.17 | tzanger | that's where I can get the kernel/initrd from... but that looks like it is i386 ...grr |
| 13:58.28 | Edico | hi |
| 13:58.29 | valdyn | Viper-7: you are seriously trying to make a module for 2.6.1 run on 2.6.26? |
| 13:58.41 | valdyn | Viper-7: thats sick to even try |
| 13:58.49 | Viper-7 | rofl |
| 13:58.54 | nsadmin | valdyn: that's the version of the driver |
| 13:58.56 | Edico | there are man pages for sizeof, stdlib? |
| 13:59.12 | Viper-7 | "DMX4Linux 2.6.1 released. Which fixes the build process." |
| 13:59.17 | tzanger | valdyn: it's not that bad an idea... there may be some little things to tweak up but by and large the apis haven't changed THAT much |
| 13:59.17 | nsadmin | sizeof is a C keyword |
| 13:59.25 | Viper-7 | doesnt even say what kernel its for heh :/ |
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| 13:59.29 | hellues | hey |
| 13:59.42 | hellues | are there graphical editor for javascript in debian |
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| 13:59.57 | valdyn | tzanger: except that entire stacks got ripped out and replaced, where the api changed completely in all aspects |
| 14:00.08 | tzanger | valdyn: probably not for what he's working with |
| 14:00.12 | nsadmin | hellues: use any text editor you like |
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| 14:00.24 | valdyn | tzanger: now that may not have happened for usb, but thats an exception, not the rule |
| 14:00.28 | Viper-7 | tzanger: if you've been here before, what did you use? the same driver or? |
| 14:00.40 | Viper-7 | i dont have any attachment to using this one |
| 14:00.43 | tzanger | valdyn: I mean workqueues completely changed, usb I *think* stayed more or less the same... but again should be easily ported... well moderately so :-) |
| 14:00.45 | Viper-7 | its just the only one i could find heh |
| 14:00.53 | tzanger | Viper-7: I write drivers for a living |
| 14:01.10 | Viper-7 | haha fair enough |
| 14:01.18 | JyZyXEL | stew what do i do after i modprobed the driver? |
| 14:01.18 | nsadmin | see if you can use the device? |
| 14:01.19 | abrotman | tzanger: nascar? |
| 14:01.19 | Viper-7 | dont suppose you've got some source lying around ? :P |
| 14:01.20 | tzanger | Viper-7: all you can really do is start pulling it apart and fix where you see it breaking |
| 14:01.28 | tzanger | abrotman: ? |
| 14:01.32 | valdyn | Viper-7: the error looks like you might have forgotten one module that might be within dmx4linux-2.6.1 |
| 14:01.34 | abrotman | nevermind .. :( |
| 14:01.41 | stew | JyZyXEL: nothing? |
| 14:01.54 | JyZyXEL | stew ifconfig -a won't still show the card |
| 14:01.55 | valdyn | Viper-7: so find . -name "*.ko" or somesuch |
| 14:01.55 | tzanger | Viper-7: there's tons of source lying around in drivers/* :-) but seriously it's compiling without error? it should be pretty straightforward to see what's going on |
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| 14:02.22 | Viper-7 | its compiling without errors, just warnings, but the warnings mention the same missing symbols as dmesg does when i try to modprobe it |
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| 14:02.47 | valdyn | Viper-7: the actual dmx driver |
| 14:03.02 | stew | JyZyXEL: this is a pci card? are you sure it is a 3c905? |
| 14:03.08 | stew | JyZyXEL: check dmesg i guess |
| 14:03.33 | Viper-7 | valdyn: this is it? |
| 14:03.40 | JyZyXEL | stew yea its PCI |
| 14:03.48 | JyZyXEL | guess it borked |
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| 14:04.05 | valdyn | Viper-7: i dont know what dmx is, i see usb2dmx being a translation layer of some kind between usb and dmx, where you miss the dmx module or driver or whatever the fuck it is |
| 14:04.28 | Viper-7 | valdyn: its a simple usb serial adapter, this is the device driver for it |
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| 14:04.47 | valdyn | Viper-7: it does not seem to be the device driver |
| 14:05.07 | valdyn | Viper-7: if it is, then its still missing a support module |
| 14:05.36 | madd_ | hi folks |
| 14:05.37 | madd_ | wodim: Input/output error. read error on input file |
| 14:05.45 | madd_ | thats from netinst image |
| 14:05.48 | valdyn | Viper-7: that support module would have to be loaded before usb2dmx or automagically if its found when depmod -a scans |
| 14:06.22 | madd_ | i can mount it, but it doesn't boot |
| 14:06.25 | valdyn | Viper-7: did you run that find command? |
| 14:06.26 | Viper-7 | valdyn: http://llg.cubic.org/dmx4linux/install.html thats all i have to go off |
| 14:06.30 | madd_ | md5 correct |
| 14:07.04 | Viper-7 | results of find: http://pastebin.com/m51cab1c2 |
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| 14:07.07 | valdyn | Viper-7: that howto doesnt tell me to modprobe usb2dmx |
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| 14:07.24 | valdyn | Viper-7: now if you had just followed that howto |
| 14:07.25 | frankS2 | how can i show the changelog of the packages that comes with apt-get dist-upgrade ? |
| 14:07.32 | frankS2 | im not sure if i want to upgrade |
| 14:07.34 | Viper-7 | valdyn: 'getting started' on the documentation page (ie the next page) does |
| 14:07.36 | Viper-7 | valdyn: i have |
| 14:07.39 | valdyn | modprobe okdmx or modprobe dmxsoundlight to load the drivers. |
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| 14:08.30 | Viper-7 | Now load your hardware driver, for example modprobe dmxsoundlight or modprobe usb2dmx |
| 14:08.38 | Viper-7 | it has isa, pci, sound card and usb versions |
| 14:08.41 | Viper-7 | i have a usb module |
| 14:08.47 | tzanger | nsadmin: the kernel was the issue. fixed and it's installing just fine. thank you for your assistance, I really appreciate it. |
| 14:09.23 | valdyn | Viper-7: ill just guess what that missing support module is |
| 14:09.28 | valdyn | Viper-7: run "modprobe dmxdev" |
| 14:09.59 | Viper-7 | modprobe dmxdev gives no error, but still no love |
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| 14:10.12 | valdyn | Viper-7: means what? still cant load usb2dmx? |
| 14:10.25 | Viper-7 | summoner:~/dmx4linux-2.6.1# modprobe usb2dmx |
| 14:10.25 | Viper-7 | FATAL: Error inserting usb2dmx (/lib/modules/2.6.26-1-686/extra/usb2dmx.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) |
| 14:10.43 | valdyn | Viper-7: same error we already had before? |
| 14:10.46 | Viper-7 | yup |
| 14:11.17 | valdyn | Viper-7: modprobe -r dmxdev && modprobe dmxdev, then check if you get any output, probably in dmesg |
| 14:12.15 | Viper-7 | registration succeded |
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| 14:12.52 | valdyn | Viper-7: so try usb2dmx again |
| 14:13.02 | Viper-7 | same error |
| 14:13.13 | Viper-7 | [ 6046.395314] usb2dmx: no symbol version for dmx_find_driver |
| 14:13.13 | Viper-7 | [ 6046.395314] usb2dmx: Unknown symbol dmx_find_driver |
| 14:13.14 | Viper-7 | etc |
| 14:13.16 | valdyn | Viper-7: the COMPLETE same error? |
| 14:13.20 | Viper-7 | yep |
| 14:13.34 | Viper-7 | absolutely identical, char for char |
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| 14:15.45 | nsadmin | shot in the dark... same compiler compile the kernel you're running and the dmx module too? |
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| 14:15.58 | Viper-7 | just replugged it |
| 14:15.58 | Viper-7 | http://pastebin.com/m6e767cdc |
| 14:16.06 | Viper-7 | still no good, but maybe more info |
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| 14:16.24 | valdyn | Viper-7: something is wrong with your module |
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| 14:17.35 | nsadmin | valdyn: when tracing down problem in the build system where the module build didn't have the module include dir, I had him temporarily edit a kernel header makefile |
| 14:18.00 | nsadmin | to temporarily hardwire the location of the dmx includes |
| 14:18.28 | valdyn | nsadmin: dmxdev should be defining those missing symbols, but its not doing it |
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| 14:19.04 | valdyn | nsadmin: or in theory, since i can deduct that conclusively it might be usb2dmx that should be defining them but is not |
| 14:19.06 | nsadmin | the problem that's happening now doesn't seem related but I thought you'd appreciate knowing |
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| 14:19.36 | Viper-7 | EXPORT_SYMBOL(dmx_create_family); |
| 14:19.36 | Viper-7 | EXPORT_SYMBOL(dmx_find_driver); |
| 14:19.36 | Viper-7 | EXPORT_SYMBOL(dmxprop_create_long); |
| 14:19.43 | Viper-7 | thats from dmx_dev.c |
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| 14:19.52 | nsadmin | the compiler was issuing warnings to that effect |
| 14:19.52 | Viper-7 | which builds without any error |
| 14:19.54 | valdyn | Viper-7: that clears that up |
| 14:20.06 | valdyn | Viper-7: maybe without error but not correctly |
| 14:20.41 | valdyn | i cant even build it |
| 14:21.08 | pmjdebruijn | I have /dev/mapper/mpath0 devices, but they are not being detected by blkid, what can I do about this...? |
| 14:21.21 | Viper-7 | im about ready to throw in the towel and use a windows box for it heh |
| 14:21.27 | Viper-7 | something tells me this driver isnt exactly bug-free |
| 14:21.46 | Viper-7 | and ive got it working perfecting in windoze :( |
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| 14:21.52 | Viper-7 | perfectly*... |
| 14:21.54 | nsadmin | well the build system is definitely buggy |
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| 14:22.16 | Viper-7 | its a fresh lenny install, just an outdated driver i think |
| 14:22.17 | valdyn | scripts/Makefile.build:46: *** CFLAGS was changed in "/home/valdyn/download/dmx4linux-2.6.1/drivers/dmxdev/Makefile". Fix it to use EXTRA_CFLAGS. Schluss. |
| 14:22.21 | Viper-7 | and i cant find anything newer |
| 14:22.26 | valdyn | what the fuck does this makefile do |
| 14:22.54 | Viper-7 | rofl |
| 14:23.49 | nsadmin | Viper-7: perhaps you should restore the kernel header makefile to what it was before... |
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| 14:24.07 | Viper-7 | aye nsadmin ;) hehe |
| 14:24.25 | valdyn | CFLAGS+=-O6 |
| 14:24.27 | valdyn | what the fuck |
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| 14:24.42 | nsadmin | then the question becomes how to get the -I to the module compile process |
| 14:24.53 | nsadmin | we didn't do that |
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| 14:25.42 | nsadmin | I thought gcc doesn't understand -O6 |
| 14:25.55 | empiric | my debian NIC card is doing prb |
| 14:25.59 | pmjdebruijn | isn't -O6 silly? |
| 14:25.59 | empiric | here is logs |
| 14:25.59 | empiric | http://pastebin.com/d698cd212 |
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| 14:29.10 | Viper-7 | ok, thanks for the help guys hehe, im just going to build it as a windows daemon |
| 14:29.17 | Viper-7 | saves the headache, we can just forget dmx4linux exists haha |
| 14:29.24 | servilio | hi! I am customizing the apt preferences file, and after reading the man page it wasn't clear to me what type of regular expressions are accepted in the Package: lines |
| 14:29.28 | webmind | Viper-7, cool |
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| 14:31.48 | JyZyXEL | can i stop debian using the HD so i can stop it |
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| 14:32.56 | iceberg | hello everyone, maybe somebody knows how to add another user for xmail ? i want add www-data, for web server |
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| 14:34.32 | JyZyXEL | [kjournald] keeps writing like every 10 seconds |
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| 14:38.38 | valdyn | JyZyXEL: why? to spin it down? |
| 14:39.13 | JyZyXEL | nah its fine i just put my headphones on |
| 14:39.24 | JyZyXEL | the old HD was making horrible noise |
| 14:39.24 | fireba11 | ^^ |
| 14:39.41 | JyZyXEL | im beta testing Raid with old machine and USB thumb drives |
| 14:39.56 | valdyn | dmx4linux should be easy to fix, for someone a little familiar with kernel build system, which im not |
| 14:40.02 | JyZyXEL | im trying to make a RAID-5 |
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| 14:41.51 | milligan_ | I have a USB to Serial converter, and it's discovered by lsusb .. Bus 006 Device 005: ID 0403:6001 Future Technology Devices International, Ltd FT232 USB-Serial (UART) IC . How can I telnet to the device I connect ? |
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| 14:42.32 | monkey_d_luffy | As anyone used pdfedit? Is there any way I can edit the text in a PDF file? |
| 14:42.33 | mike9939 | soooo... finally a new version huh : ) |
| 14:42.55 | asg | milligan_: minicom, ser2net ... either of those should work |
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| 14:42.59 | halflife08 | milligan_: use minicom |
| 14:43.31 | mike9939 | monkey_d_luffy: i dont like pdf... its a complicated format, havent seen any proper editors for it beside the crap from adope |
| 14:43.51 | mike9939 | if you really need to use it, i can only recommend 'acrobat profe-puke' |
| 14:44.13 | mike9939 | how is the new 5.0 doing, you guys happy with it? |
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| 14:44.39 | abrotman | milligan_: telnet? or a serial communications program ? |
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| 14:45.11 | milligan_ | asg, halflife08, I have minicom .. how do I initate the connection? According to dmesg, the serial device is connected to [804850.152902] usb 6-2: FTDI USB Serial Device converter now attached to ttyUSB0 |
| 14:45.33 | monkey_d_luffy | mike9939: the provided input files are either in docx and pdf... not much to choose from. OO3 can't open docx properly. |
| 14:46.08 | mike9939 | then you want windowz with acrobat and office 2007 puke puke |
| 14:46.11 | asg | milligan_: configure it to use /dev/ttyUSB0 as the serial device |
| 14:46.30 | mike9939 | i think it sucks that the demo scene is 99% windowz/directx |
| 14:46.57 | JyZyXEL | Ok, enough talking. You set up the /etc/raidtab, so let's see if it works. Run the |
| 14:46.57 | JyZyXEL | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:47.03 | JyZyXEL | there is no command mkraid? |
| 14:48.23 | milligan_ | asg, spits out jibberish.. on one line |
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| 14:49.09 | asg | milligan_: you need to configure the speed, stop bits, etc. Try 9600,8,N,1 which works for most devices |
| 14:49.13 | JyZyXEL | tldp is such a outdated piece of crap |
| 14:49.42 | JyZyXEL | none of this shit it has about raid is valid anymore |
| 14:49.54 | asg | JyZyXEL: then fix it |
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| 14:50.01 | JyZyXEL | i don't own the site |
| 14:50.20 | milligan_ | asg, still strange output. Which should I try messing with? Speed, bits, or ? |
| 14:50.39 | mike9939 | lenny contains OOo 2.4.x right, why is there so much older software in the debian stable releases? |
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| 14:50.51 | asg | milligan_: all of those settings. If they don't match what the other device is using, you'll only see jibberish |
| 14:50.53 | mike9939 | its jsut released, but a lot of the 'content' is old already? |
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| 14:51.37 | infernix | anyone have suggestions for virtualisation/containers on a Sun Fire V445 (UltraSPARC IIIi)? i'm not seeing many options and have not used sparc boxes often |
| 14:51.47 | Joelito | hi all: anyone know a good terminal emulator to my fluxbox which can have copy and paste feature? |
| 14:52.01 | infernix | there's also no xen/openvz packages for sparc in lenny as far as i can see |
| 14:52.11 | JyZyXEL | Package raidtools2 is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 14:52.23 | JyZyXEL | what the heck is the raid package |
| 14:52.52 | asg | JyZyXEL: apt-cache search raid |
| 14:52.54 | JyZyXEL | raidutils - Transition Package for raidutils rename to dpt-i2o-raidutils |
| 14:53.15 | asg | mdadm - tool to administer Linux MD arrays (software RAID) |
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| 14:55.26 | valdyn | JyZyXEL: raidutils is for hardware raids |
| 14:56.20 | themill | mike9939: newer != better ; newer == less tested. |
| 14:56.49 | valdyn | mike9939: no sane software vendor releases software that isnt "old", not even microsoft |
| 14:57.08 | valdyn | mike9939: s/releases/releases as stable/ |
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| 14:57.24 | orgthingy | themill: well, its part of software's project what to release |
| 14:57.27 | valdyn | (except for game developers i guess , but games crash all the time too ) |
| 14:57.31 | orgthingy | if they release something unstable, then let them get it |
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| 14:57.59 | henhir | Is it possible to have my second screen display something different then the bootup at boottime? |
| 14:58.10 | valdyn | orgthingy: slackware does exactly that for you, releasing upstream as it is |
| 14:58.27 | themill | mike9939: debian takes a few months to stabilise things down and shake the bugs out of the packages. To do so, they need to stop uploading new versions. Unfortunately, everyone else's release cycles aren't tuned to debian's so if OOo release 3.0 just after the freeze is started, it doesn't get in. |
| 14:58.55 | themill | orgthingy: it's often interactions between different projects/packages that need to be sorted out. |
| 14:59.01 | orgthingy | valdyn: yea, but that's way it should be; debian packages not take-care of what gets packaged |
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| 14:59.12 | orgthingy | and have correct versions of the libs..etc |
| 14:59.21 | valdyn | orgthingy: if thats how you think it should be, then go use slackware |
| 15:00.03 | mike9939 | valdyn: microsoft released win 7 beta 7000, in about 10days after it was compiled |
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| 15:00.13 | mike9939 | but thats not stable no.. |
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| 15:00.21 | orgthingy | valdyn: im not gonna use a whole different distro for having different opinion on packaging |
| 15:00.59 | mike9939 | themill: ok |
| 15:00.59 | milligan_ | asg, found the seemingly correct rate ... set it .. still got jibbersh .. went to take a piss, and it was OK when I came back. Strange, but nice :) |
| 15:01.24 | themill | milligan_: tmi, but at least you know how to solve the problem next time... |
| 15:01.26 | valdyn | mike9939: thats not really relevant, the compilation time, lenny stuff was probably compiled less than 24 hours before release |
| 15:01.26 | asg | milligan_: cool. Take a look at ser2net also, it has some nice features. |
| 15:01.39 | asg | themill: most problems get solved in the bathroom |
| 15:01.42 | stew | valdyn: what do you mean by "compiled"? |
| 15:02.12 | valdyn | stew: some package was built less than 24 hours before release |
| 15:02.14 | JyZyXEL | should the drives that are about to be raided be empty? |
| 15:02.44 | stew | valdyn: which? gnutls? |
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| 15:02.53 | valdyn | stew: i dont know, im just guessing |
| 15:03.03 | valdyn | stew: less than 10 days is the actual point |
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| 15:04.11 | stew | i would guess that less than 0.05% of the lenny packages were compiled in the last 10 days |
| 15:04.48 | orgthingy | but they were tested for longer time |
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| 15:07.22 | stew | actually i can say for sure that no packages were compiled in the last 24 hours |
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| 15:08.19 | stew | the actually release process took 23.5, and the previous dinstall run 3 hours before that and the previous britney run was hours before that |
| 15:08.42 | mne | I just bought a linux supported NetMOS 9901 serial/parallel port combo card. It shows up in lspci, but serial ports /dev/ttySx do not seems to be associated to the card. Any help ? |
| 15:08.46 | stew | the large majority of the packages were compiled before the freeze |
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| 15:18.51 | parsifal_ | mornin |
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| 15:26.10 | jako | hello, sorry for the lame question but I have a doubt: having a Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo 1800 MHz which arch shall I choose? ia64 isn't it? |
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| 15:26.33 | henhir | Is it possible to have my second screen display something different then the bootup at boottime? |
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| 15:28.30 | noppe | what's best for an external hdd? ext2 or ext3? |
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| 15:28.38 | JyZyXEL | samba can't share /media/usb unless it is 777? |
| 15:28.42 | jako | ext3 |
| 15:29.02 | JyZyXEL | the /media/usb is root root |
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| 15:30.55 | abrotman | jako: heck no .. i386 or amd64 |
| 15:31.16 | jako | amd? |
| 15:31.27 | themill | dpkg: tell jako about core2duo |
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| 15:33.50 | jako | thanks, i386 was my first choice in fact, but "setup.exe" was claiming to use a 64bit version; should it be reported? |
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| 15:35.15 | abrotman | setup.exe ? |
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| 15:35.59 | jako | yes, if you put a debian cd while running windows a sort of documtation program is launched |
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| 15:36.13 | deveras | hello. i need to enable modrewrite on apache2 (ubuntu) but i dont have the command a2enmod rewrite is there another way to go about it? apache2 -l doesn't display the modulo either |
| 15:36.52 | deveras | and on mods-available i have the rewrite.load to witch i've created a symbolic link from mods-enable, but still doesn't do it |
| 15:37.12 | asg | deveras: find which ubuntu package provides a2enmod and install it. |
| 15:37.28 | deveras | asg how can i find that with apt? |
| 15:37.34 | deveras | i mean what's the comand |
| 15:37.43 | asg | $ a2enmod |
| 15:37.44 | asg | The program 'a2enmod' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: |
| 15:37.46 | asg | sudo apt-get install apache2.2-common |
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| 15:38.01 | jako | hehe |
| 15:38.16 | asg | deveras: ubuntu provides idiot mode in the shell, it's worth using |
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| 15:38.59 | deveras | asg i've read man, but there is no apt-cache provides pakage |
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| 15:39.10 | themill | dpkg: tell deveras about apt-file |
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| 15:39.23 | zirimola | I have a problem with NIS |
| 15:39.26 | zirimola | Starting NIS services: ypbindbinding to YP server........................................... |
| 15:39.35 | zirimola | and later i have and error |
| 15:39.40 | zirimola | i need help please |
| 15:39.53 | asg | and the error is? |
| 15:40.16 | zirimola | one moment asg |
| 15:40.27 | zirimola | debian:/etc/init.d# /etc/init.d/nis start |
| 15:40.27 | zirimola | Starting NIS services: ypbindbinding to YP server...........................................failed (backgrounded). |
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| 15:40.50 | deveras | themill i dont have apt-file command |
| 15:40.54 | empiric | guys any idea why my NIC card on deban box is on and off |
| 15:40.56 | jako | ever tried to look up a log |
| 15:40.57 | themill | !installit |
| 15:40.57 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! *** Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. If someone suggests an application to you, it's highly likely that it's available via apt-get or aptitude. |
| 15:41.13 | empiric | http://pastebin.com/d698cd212 |
| 15:41.15 | empiric | logs |
| 15:41.20 | themill | deveras: dpkg even told you have to install it... |
| 15:41.27 | themill | *how |
| 15:41.52 | asg | zirimola: check your logs to see why it failed. |
| 15:42.07 | stew | judd: versions libc6 |
| 15:42.07 | judd | stew: libc6 -- etch: 2.3.6.ds1-13etch7 lenny: 2.7-18 sid: 2.7-18 squeeze: 2.7-18 experimental: 2.9-0exp2 |
| 15:42.11 | stew | yay squeeze |
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| 15:42.27 | dutchfish | hi, does anyone know if this will be supported under Debian, or is there any work in progress for the AMT interface (ecept for the amttool & amtterm already in squize) http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=193428 |
| 15:42.28 | themill | stew: it took overnight to load? |
| 15:42.49 | JyZyXEL | how are the device names given to USB drives? |
| 15:42.52 | asg | stew: that means I'll have to rename my laptop Charmin |
| 15:42.55 | deveras | themill insuficient information. i installed apt-file with apt-get, since i can do search with it, but i can't use apt-file a2enmod cause it just complains about flags |
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| 15:43.10 | JyZyXEL | if you have a RAID with USB devices wouldn't it be kinda important that they always get the same names? |
| 15:43.21 | deveras | i'm updating apt-file themill |
| 15:43.36 | asg | deveras: that's because you didn't read the manpage which gives you the correct usage for apt-file |
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| 15:44.18 | zirimola | thanks asg |
| 15:44.35 | stew | themill: the first time the commit took hours to finally fail with a PK clash, the second time also probably took hours but I wasn't watching |
| 15:44.52 | stew | asg: what was it named previously? |
| 15:45.06 | themill | deveras: dpkg said to you: aptitude install apt-file && apt-file update" ; then "apt-file search filename" <=== i.e. install it, update it then use "apt-file search a2enmod". What more did you want dpkg to tell you? Also, please take your ubuntu questions to #ubuntu. |
| 15:45.14 | asg | stew: squiggy |
| 15:45.17 | stew | heh |
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| 15:45.51 | zirimola | asg: what file is the log file? |
| 15:46.09 | zirimola | sorry, my english is very bad |
| 15:46.20 | asg | zirimola: not sure but /var/log/syslog is a good start |
| 15:46.27 | themill | stew: who was doing what wrong to end up with a key clash? |
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| 15:49.31 | zirimola | asg: The name of domain of NIS must be the ip host's server |
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| 15:54.28 | dive | Camarade_Tux, *wave* |
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| 15:56.10 | Crispy | Hi ... I just upgraded a system to Debian Lenny, and I'm trying to set up a Heimdal kerberos server on it. It's transitioning from another, different server, so I got a database dump from the other server, installed heimdal-kdc on the new server, and loaded the dump. The KDC works fine. However, the kadmind isn't working properly. The ACL is copied exactly from the other system, but when I try |
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| 15:56.18 | Camarade_Tux | waves back at dive :) |
| 15:56.23 | Crispy | to do anything with a kadmin client, or use "privs", it says I have no privileges. |
| 15:56.35 | Crispy | Does anyone have any idea what problem this might be, or how to fix it? |
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| 15:59.08 | slidesinger | Just wanting to check something out before I do it as this is a data recovery situation. If I understand the dd command correctly --> dd /dev/sda /dev/sdb --> where the drive capacity and geometry are the same will do a bitwise clone of all partitions on the source drive (/dev/sda) |
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| 16:00.29 | slava_dp | man dd |
| 16:01.00 | hoxu | slidesinger, that's the theory, but you can only do it if the drives are pretty much identical - there's plenty of reasons why you shouldn't do that though |
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| 16:01.23 | hoxu | slidesinger, also, you most likely want to proride reasonable bs sizes |
| 16:02.17 | empiric | helo |
| 16:02.23 | empiric | guys any dea |
| 16:02.26 | hoxu | slidesinger, don't do it unless you understand the implications clearly (same UUIDs etc) |
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| 16:03.03 | hoxu | slidesinger, what kind of "data recovery" situation do you have exactly? |
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| 16:03.59 | trifler | Anyone in here who have fiddled with lua on or with apache? |
| 16:04.04 | behanw | slidesinger: depending on the situation you may also just be copying the same mess from one drive to the other. |
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| 16:04.12 | hoxu | trifler, ask a real question |
| 16:04.39 | behanw | slidesinger: partitioning, formatting, and then doing the appropriate dump|restore might yeild better results. |
| 16:04.46 | trifler | hoxu: Is there anyone who can help me with integration lua on apache (like integrating php on apche) ? |
| 16:04.49 | slidesinger | hoxu: hfsplus on a mac. I want to take a copy and work from the copy, leaving the original untouched in case I screw up. |
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| 16:05.00 | trifler | hoxu: sorry for specifying the question to you. |
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| 16:05.12 | behanw | slidesinger: or give you the opportunity to change the drive format on the new one. :) |
| 16:05.25 | behanw | Then you can copy using cpio or tar. |
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| 16:05.48 | behanw | slidesinger: ah. |
| 16:05.53 | hoxu | slidesinger, ok, in that case I guess dd would work for you... you might want to look at ddrescue also |
| 16:06.05 | behanw | ddrescue. definitely. |
| 16:06.18 | dutchfish | !partimage |
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| 16:06.45 | slidesinger | hoxu, behanw: Thanks. |
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| 16:10.41 | jpinx | aptitude install tells you the space that will be occupied, and sometimes asks for confirmation and sometimes not. What's the size threshold of that? |
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| 16:16.02 | Python1320 | umm |
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| 16:16.38 | Python1320 | if I do "ps -A | grep srcds.exe" i get output like "20424 ? 00:02:21 srcds.exe" but then if I do "pidof srcds.exe" I receive nothing |
| 16:16.47 | dutchfish | jpinx, i can be wrong, but as i understood it depends not on size but if there are more the one install or dependecies are installed along, that will trigger this q |
| 16:17.11 | Python1320 | I need to get the pid so I could renice it, how could I do this? |
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| 16:17.44 | asg | Python1320: try pgrep |
| 16:17.56 | Python1320 | wow |
| 16:17.57 | Python1320 | tahnks |
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| 16:18.41 | jpinx | dutchfish: thanks - I can find nothing to read up that tells me anything about it.. |
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| 16:19.29 | dutchfish | jpinx, if i am correct this can be altered by changing verbosity lvl |
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| 16:19.55 | jpinx | ah - cool -- I'll need to read the smallprint in man aptitude then |
| 16:21.59 | cads | My laptop's been sending kernel crash and recovery logs to kerneloops.com, mostly after it comes back from hibernation. |
| 16:22.32 | cads | Hibernation's become a bit unreliable, with no guarantee of returned function upon return |
| 16:23.03 | cads | I need to know if there's any way to validate my system's files |
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| 16:25.10 | cads | perhaps run checksums on all my kernel modules or something like that; there were a few times where the system had locked up and required a hard reset |
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| 16:26.04 | cads | while I don't think kernel modules would necessarily be hurt by that, perhaps the problem has to do with configuration files.. |
| 16:26.20 | asg | cads: debsums can be used to verify some binaries. In this case, your laptop may just not support hibernation on linux without some tweaking (see tuxmobile.org for your model to see what others have reported.) |
| 16:27.07 | dive | cads, any filesystem errors while booting? Run fsck at all? |
| 16:27.31 | wintix | where does one specify the default editor for e.g. crontab -e ? |
| 16:27.54 | dive | wintix, $VISUAL |
| 16:27.55 | cads | I'll see if the advice for a similar model of laptop will help me. The hibernation works here and in suse normally, but recently it's been getting more and more unreliable. |
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| 16:28.11 | dive | wintix, and $EDITOR for some things |
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| 16:28.21 | wintix | dive: thank you |
| 16:28.27 | cads | dive: thanks |
| 16:28.37 | dive | np.s |
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| 16:29.27 | sivel | Hey guys...just installed lenny a few days ago. Just tried to use sound and I get an error "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found" |
| 16:29.31 | sivel | what should I look into? |
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| 16:29.52 | Python1320 | umm, also, can I make crontab stop mailing me becaue of one error in my script? |
| 16:30.07 | wpinpa | hello everyone, forgive me for what I am about to ask (i know this is horrible): I have a sarge amd64 box on which i _really_ need to build some new software. But the sarge mirrors are gone, can't find a working amd64 one and I have a large dependency tree. anyone know of a working Sarge amd64 mirror? |
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| 16:30.18 | hoxu | Python1320, man 5 crontab, search for "MAILTO" |
| 16:30.38 | hoxu | Python1320, or just supress the error in your script |
| 16:30.45 | Python1320 | How would I do that? |
| 16:31.00 | dutchfish | !tell wpinpa about archives |
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| 16:34.19 | dive | Python1320, try adding '1>/dev/null 2>&1' at the end of the cron line |
| 16:34.28 | Python1320 | ah that way |
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| 16:35.09 | cads | dive, do I need to boot into recovery mode, or into a live disk, in order to perform fsck on my main partition? |
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| 16:35.57 | hoxu | Python1320, I meant, fix the bloody script if you've written it. Errors are given for a reason - what dive gave you works, but you'll never learn of *new* problems |
| 16:35.59 | doublehp | I have flash player installed for firefox; how do I make opera share the same libs without reinstalling ? I thought some nice symlinks could do ... |
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| 16:36.04 | dive | cads, I would use a live disk personally... which filesystem is it? |
| 16:36.04 | cads | I get "WARNinG!! Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause SEVERE file system damage." |
| 16:36.21 | cads | dive ext3 |
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| 16:36.47 | dive | I would use a live cd and make sure the devices aren't mounted of course |
| 16:36.49 | zxd | cads, maybe you shouldn't run e2fsck on a mounted fs |
| 16:36.57 | dive | can't fsck a mounted partition |
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| 16:37.48 | cads | zxd, if I am captain obvious, will you be my sidekick, Logical Inferrence Boy? :) |
| 16:38.03 | zxd | :) |
| 16:38.05 | zxd | hhh |
| 16:38.34 | cads | running debsums now |
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| 16:40.25 | cads | I'll see what fsck does.. I remember it ran a few boots ago as part of the policy, and seemed to return clean |
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| 16:41.31 | d0wNsYs | what is the package for installing all development tools for lenny gcc make etc... |
| 16:41.45 | dutchfish | buildessential ? |
| 16:41.46 | cads | I believe that is build-essential |
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| 16:42.13 | esaym | Has mapquest broken compatibility with iceweasel? http://www.mapquest.com/maps?city=Houston&state=TX Can anyone move the map around with iceweasel? |
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| 16:44.10 | cads | esaym, that's very odd: I can grab the map and subsequently move it around so long as I grab it from the very top edge of the map |
| 16:44.16 | jthomas | i can see the map but not do anything with it, esaym |
| 16:44.24 | jthomas | lemme try that |
| 16:44.41 | esaym | cads: yea just the very top left :( |
| 16:44.48 | esaym | what the flux |
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| 16:44.56 | jthomas | i can grab anywhere along the top, but only there |
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| 16:45.14 | mrdrky | hi all |
| 16:45.39 | cads | esaym: I'd encourage you to go ahead and build firefox from the 3.2 beta source |
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| 16:46.08 | esaym | hmm |
| 16:46.10 | cads | I think this just convinced me to do the same: I've been having troubles with ol' weasly |
| 16:46.19 | esaym | crap |
| 16:46.29 | esaym | this is for my grandma's pc |
| 16:46.52 | cads | it's not hard, esaym.. but you can also just grab the binary installer for linux |
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| 16:47.25 | esaym | true |
| 16:47.32 | cads | I encourage you to try installing it and tell us if it still has the problem |
| 16:47.42 | cads | I shall as well |
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| 16:47.57 | esaym | well I am interested in just finding out if regular firefox has this issue |
| 16:48.00 | esaym | under linux |
| 16:48.05 | esaym | guess I will have to play with it |
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| 16:51.39 | aidan | are there any known issues with leny that cause oad average: 115.38, 100.59, 58.56 load averages to spike? our server never gets over .5 |
| 16:51.59 | hoxu | aidan, checked top? |
| 16:52.09 | RichiH | how do i tunnel via sshover two hops? |
| 16:52.14 | aidan | hoxu: still waiting for it to show ... |
| 16:52.17 | cads | wow, that's terrible aidan |
| 16:52.40 | RichiH | i.e. local -> hop1 -> hop2 -> target |
| 16:52.43 | aidan | installed lenny a few hours ago :/ hope we're not getting fossed |
| 16:53.08 | aidan | dossed even, though fossed would be bad too I guess. |
| 16:53.12 | Decepticon | what does it mean the phrase 'unity of theory and practice' |
| 16:53.21 | cads | RichiH: shouldn't it work transparently through whatever number of hops the host protocol happens to take? |
| 16:53.44 | dutchfish | cads, its the site itself, if you go to http://gasprices.mapquest.com/ it works all the way, install firebug and you can track the buggers down |
| 16:53.48 | cads | RichiH: or are you saying those hops are specific intermediary systems you need to jump through |
| 16:54.04 | RichiH | cads: the latter |
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| 16:56.45 | temoto | I'm writing an application remote deploy via ssh script in bash. How do i create a user $USER *if it isn't exist* and pass silently if it exists? |
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| 16:57.19 | abc | Its works Debian 5 with 147 MB Memory ?(installation...) |
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| 16:58.00 | cads | abc, maybe not the full desktop environment |
| 16:58.25 | temoto | abc: linux kernel works with 4MB memory. |
| 16:58.32 | dutchfish | abc, http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes |
| 16:58.38 | hoxu | RichiH, create a -L tunnel to first remote box, then use that tunnel to create a tunnel to the second remote box? :p |
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| 16:58.48 | parsifal_ | abc, I had a Debian 5 VM running, with Xorg and Xfce4 with 128MB |
| 16:58.56 | parsifal_ | it should just use the swap if it can't use the ram |
| 16:59.05 | abc | cool okay i load xfce debian 5 |
| 16:59.13 | abc | yes right. |
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| 17:00.05 | abc | Its work Ralink 8180L Wlan Card on Debian ? |
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| 17:00.20 | abc | Out of Box ? i mean not... |
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| 17:00.31 | esaym | cads: firefox 3.1 or firefox 3.2?? |
| 17:00.36 | liable | abc: never heard of it |
| 17:00.36 | gangsterlicious | anyone familiar with xen-create-image? how do i specify multiple --role option? i need udev and minimal |
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| 17:00.51 | RichiH | hoxu: yah, but my mind fails to wrap around that concept |
| 17:01.04 | RichiH | i can't come up with a working command |
| 17:01.44 | cads | esaym: 3.2 has been pretty stable for me where lenny's iceweasel has been a little glitchy |
| 17:01.59 | Spida | gangsterlicious: I always built my own roles |
| 17:02.24 | cads | esaym: 3.0x is fine also |
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| 17:02.52 | hoxu | RichiH, ssh -L 12345:box2:22 box1 & ssh -o port=12345 -L 23456:box3:20 localhost # ? |
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| 17:03.19 | hoxu | RichiH, pen & paper might be useful :) |
| 17:03.24 | esaym | cads: what is 3.2?? 3.1 beta 2? |
| 17:03.39 | dutchfish | hi, does anyone know if this will be supported under Debian, or is there any work in progress for the AMT interface (ecept for the amttool & amtterm already in squize) http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=193428 |
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| 17:03.58 | esaym | cads: it appears that the mozilla binary of FF 3.0.6 works fine with map quest :( |
| 17:04.04 | esaym | filling bug report.. |
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| 17:06.36 | RichiH | hoxu: heh, yah |
| 17:06.43 | RichiH | normally, i can map shell stuff into my mind just fine |
| 17:06.48 | gangsterlicious | Spida: I see... perhaps i can merge those two |
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| 17:10.31 | cads | esaym: does it work correctly with the same site from before? Note that dutchfish gave me a mapquest site which worked, suggesting that the specific page you gave was buggy |
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| 17:11.49 | esaym | cads: yes it was the same link to the city of houston |
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| 17:12.18 | doublehp | I have flash player installed for firefox; how do I make opera share the same libs without reinstalling ? I thought some nice symlinks could do ... |
| 17:12.43 | cads | esaym, give me the link to the bug report and I'll confirm |
| 17:13.04 | hingwah | is the mime database for gnome broken for unstable? I find that gnomevfs-info filename detect all type of binary files as application/octet-stream, making gnome-open not work or gthumb cannot detect any image files. |
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| 17:15.48 | toxygen | hi |
| 17:15.57 | toxygen | i would like to ask, i'm trying to install lenny from usb |
| 17:16.00 | toxygen | according to manual |
| 17:16.20 | toxygen | but graphical installer says "cd-rom not found" |
| 17:16.21 | toxygen | every time |
| 17:16.46 | toxygen | i copied both .iso & contents of it to usb, from manual it's not clear how it should be done |
| 17:16.49 | toxygen | can anyone clarify? |
| 17:16.52 | toxygen | please |
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| 17:17.28 | esaym | cads: ok let me work on it, still testing... |
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| 17:18.49 | RichiH | toxygen: there is unibootcd or some such which automates usb installer creation |
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| 17:18.58 | RichiH | usbbootin? |
| 17:19.01 | RichiH | something like that |
| 17:19.24 | stew | unetbootin |
| 17:19.33 | RichiH | ah, yes |
| 17:19.38 | MrWax | blist |
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| 17:20.28 | toxygen | btw. is there any developer of debian-installer? i have few bugs i plan to fill, but would like to consult them first |
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| 17:21.09 | toxygen | RichiH: thanks, but i don't have win |
| 17:21.19 | toxygen | nor linux |
| 17:21.29 | RichiH | it's available for linux, as well |
| 17:21.35 | RichiH | and mac? |
| 17:21.51 | toxygen | RichiH: yup, mac positive here |
| 17:22.33 | RichiH | !usb install |
| 17:22.33 | dpkg | Yes, it is possible to boot Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key, as long as your computer BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/i386/ch04s04.html.en , see "usb stick" section, http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ for images. (Older, outdated articles http://d-i.pascal.at/ and http://wiki.debian.org/USB-HD_Boot_Full_Debian) |
| 17:23.11 | RichiH | !usb install =~ s/etch/lenny/ |
| 17:23.11 | dpkg | RichiH: OK |
| 17:23.43 | toxygen | RichiH: as i say, i followed the manual |
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| 17:24.19 | RichiH | !usb install =~ s/s04/s03/ |
| 17:24.19 | dpkg | RichiH: OK |
| 17:24.21 | RichiH | ah, k |
| 17:24.23 | RichiH | hmm |
| 17:24.30 | hingwah | forget it, it 's bug #515728 |
| 17:24.31 | RichiH | dunno, then |
| 17:24.32 | gynterk | is it possible to convert unix timestamp to datetime in bash? |
| 17:24.36 | gynterk | or via some app |
| 17:24.38 | RichiH | try another USB drive, try another computer |
| 17:24.39 | gynterk | cli |
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| 17:24.53 | RichiH | toxygen: #debian-boot on irc.oftc.net btw |
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| 17:24.55 | toxygen | netinst over tftp is flawed completely, wouldn't install grub on lvm |
| 17:25.00 | toxygen | i'm trying to install from usb |
| 17:25.02 | norbert_ | hi all, I'm looking for a website or mailing list where I reach artists who might be willing to draw things for a GPL3 application; I created an application that shows over 50 dumbbell training exercises when muscle groups are clicked, but the photographs of the exercises are currently copyrighted, so I'm looking for someone who's willing to draw free alternatives (and who will of cause be credited for his or her work) |
| 17:25.16 | toxygen | RichiH: ok, thx |
| 17:25.29 | RichiH | toxygen: assuming you were trying to install lenny, that feedback will be very appreciated |
| 17:25.34 | norbert_ | I have a 8.9 MB tar.gz file of the application as it currently is that I can share with anyone who might be willing to help out |
| 17:25.35 | RichiH | well, it will be appreciated, anyway |
| 17:25.38 | RichiH | but.. :) |
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| 17:26.22 | toxygen | RichiH: going to try that channel |
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| 17:27.18 | RichiH | toxygen: :) |
| 17:27.21 | RichiH | brb, i need my shot |
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| 17:28.03 | DexterF | hi |
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| 17:28.21 | gangsterlicious | Spida: you running xen on lenny? |
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| 17:28.50 | gangsterlicious | Spida: i'm seeing eth0 assigned with static IP and peth0 gets DHCP IP? |
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| 17:29.04 | gangsterlicious | thought it's over bridge mode |
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| 17:29.25 | RichiH | i hate injections |
| 17:29.28 | RichiH | oh well |
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| 17:30.33 | xxtjaxx | hi guys |
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| 17:30.43 | norbert_ | hey xxtjaxx |
| 17:30.45 | JyZyXEL | should i make a 3HDD RAID5 with external USB HD's or with 4 port PCI -> SATA adapter and internal HD's ? |
| 17:30.56 | xxtjaxx | hey norbert_ |
| 17:31.05 | EugenMayer | what the best way to have a kind of vnc meeting with debian? TightVNC or are there better tools? |
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| 17:31.53 | newsense_ | is xen faster than vbox, vmware ? |
| 17:31.53 | mot___ | ohhhh |
| 17:31.54 | mot___ | OHHHHHHH |
| 17:31.56 | mot___ | OHHHHH |
| 17:32.02 | mot___ | i'm about to crack some fucking noob's skull |
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| 17:32.07 | deego | How do I obtain an older deb of a package? I see all 2.2.3-4's here. http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/o/openmotif/ but I need 2.2.3-2 .. |
| 17:32.12 | norbert_ | EugenMayer: I would say that 'better' is in the eyes of the beholder; just try several of them; apt-cache search for vnc client/server |
| 17:32.16 | newsense_ | !ops norbert_ being an idiot |
| 17:32.16 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: newsense_ complains about: norbert_ being an idiot |
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| 17:32.22 | mot___ | this FUCK went into MY server room and fucking tripped over MY UPS and fucking broke the thing |
| 17:32.23 | gynterk | why I can't use date -r 1235063925 to convert timestamp to datetime? |
| 17:32.24 | newsense_ | oops |
| 17:32.24 | deego | .. which used to be the one in lenny testing, and did not crash my app. |
| 17:32.28 | mot___ | took down my GODDAMNED webserver |
| 17:32.29 | RichiH | mot___: i'm about to ask you to moderate your language somewhat and keep in mind that cracking is off topic, in here |
| 17:32.31 | newsense_ | not |
| 17:32.37 | mot___ | and RUINED my 2+ year uptime |
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| 17:32.45 | xxtjaxx | JyZyXEL, better do a internal raid as its better than to let the os hope for a coming external |
| 17:32.45 | mot___ | f that |
| 17:32.51 | mot___ | ruined my uptime dawg! |
| 17:33.08 | norbert_ | newsense_: undo, undo! :) |
| 17:33.15 | DexterF | mot___: eat his liver |
| 17:33.16 | newsense_ | oops yeah sorry about that |
| 17:33.19 | JyZyXEL | xxtjaxx hope for a coming external? |
| 17:33.19 | mot___ | i'm about to |
| 17:33.26 | DexterF | and with right |
| 17:33.27 | mot___ | only ONLY did he ruin my UPS |
| 17:33.32 | mot___ | but took down my damned webserver |
| 17:33.36 | Fah | 2 year uptime? so much for kernel security |
| 17:33.38 | xxtjaxx | mot___, chill out dude not every body is superior in the fine art of virtualization ;P |
| 17:33.40 | mot___ | he had no business being in there anyways or touching any of my stuff |
| 17:33.43 | newsense_ | 2+ year uptime, how many security patches was that kernel missing ? |
| 17:33.47 | mot___ | \closed intranet |
| 17:33.52 | stew | mot___: note that if you have a 2 year uptime, you should be replacing your kernel and rebooting anyway |
| 17:33.57 | mot___ | nein |
| 17:34.00 | mot___ | closed intranet |
| 17:34.02 | stew | mot___: but in any case. do you have a question? |
| 17:34.08 | mot___ | sorry, when i was "webserver" i mean "closed intranet webserver" |
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| 17:34.29 | xxtjaxx | JyZyXEL well it hopes to find a external then and in most of the time thats not possible if ur lazy |
| 17:34.35 | Fah | because clearly, there are never internal threats. whatever, epeen-- |
| 17:34.37 | DexterF | mot___: so riled you forget which langauge? :) |
| 17:34.53 | mot___ | yea dude i'm pissed |
| 17:35.05 | DexterF | im with ya, seriously :) |
| 17:35.06 | mot___ | lol |
| 17:35.10 | norbert_ | mot___: aren't companies most frequently hacked by their employees? :) |
| 17:35.12 | mot___ | it's running 2.6.16 |
| 17:35.14 | JyZyXEL | haha what? :D |
| 17:35.16 | xxtjaxx | mot___, is a german I guess.. |
| 17:35.20 | mot___ | american. |
| 17:35.25 | dkr | any idea how to make it so that when I iceweasel -remote "openurl(%s,new-tab)" (e.g. by clicking link in pidgin or xchat) it doesn't move iceweasel from its current desktop to my current desktop? (this behavior changed from etch to lenny) |
| 17:35.30 | JyZyXEL | OS hopes to find external? |
| 17:35.35 | mot___ | norbert_, true, but i'm the only IT person here |
| 17:35.37 | JyZyXEL | lazy user? :D |
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| 17:35.45 | mot___ | which is why i have no idea what this buttplug was doing in my server room |
| 17:35.51 | stew | mot___: do you have a debian related question? |
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| 17:35.58 | mot___ | no dude |
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| 17:36.05 | Mitsui_Sam | hi all! |
| 17:36.08 | stew | mot___: try #debian-offtopic or #defocus for social chat |
| 17:36.30 | mot___ | yea i'd hate to stir the hermits from their dwellings... |
| 17:36.34 | Mitsui_Sam | can anybody help to rebuild iptables deb package after do a apt-get source iptables and apply ipp2p and layer7 patchs? |
| 17:36.34 | dkr | xxtjaxx: it's hard to tell apart foreigners with an accent from simply poor american english speakers nowadays online. :) |
| 17:36.43 | DexterF | stew: bah, nobody listens there, all crowded with people whining about messed uptime and other nonessentials ;) |
| 17:36.52 | DexterF | whats the fun in that? |
| 17:36.53 | mot___ | dkr: poor american english speakers? i made a single typo. |
| 17:37.09 | Mitsui_Sam | I can do a debuild -uc -us but the libip_ipp2p.so (for example) is not includes in debian/iptables/lib |
| 17:37.13 | xxtjaxx | dkr specialy online |
| 17:37.19 | mot___ | dkr: 10 bucks says i'm more well-read, well-spoken, and exceedingly more well-written than you could ever hope to be. |
| 17:37.31 | xxtjaxx | mot___, nein is a typo? |
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| 17:37.32 | mot___ | this is IRC, nobody's gunning for a pulitzer. |
| 17:37.34 | stew | please take the off-topic chatter to a better channel |
| 17:37.39 | dkr | mot___: I wasn't talking to you. I just joined the channel. grow up |
| 17:37.39 | RichiH | mot___: whatever |
| 17:37.49 | stew | mot___: xxtjaxx: please take this elsewhere |
| 17:37.52 | DexterF | I actually do have a debian question: raid5 server, etch. any tripwires upgrading to lenny? |
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| 17:38.00 | Fah | he's compensating for his small uptime |
| 17:38.00 | RichiH | please take it to #debian-offtopic or drop it (#defocus is not appropriate, either) |
| 17:38.11 | xxtjaxx | Sure I was it again... -.- |
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| 17:38.18 | mot___ | Fah: your mom's been mitigating that situation brokep... |
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| 17:38.30 | RichiH | DexterF: use aptitude not apt-get seems to be a good thing to keep in mind from what i hear |
| 17:38.34 | Fah | mom jokes? ok |
| 17:38.40 | stew | mot___: you've been silenced for 10 minutes. in the future please keep this channel on-topic, thanks |
| 17:38.45 | RichiH | DexterF: other than that.. make sure your raid card is supported? |
| 17:38.46 | stew | lets all please move on |
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| 17:39.05 | dkr | Fah: that was the "well-spoken" part. :) |
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| 17:39.08 | DexterF | RichiH: software raid. atop: lvm2. atop: xfs. / is seperate tho, no grub issues |
| 17:39.18 | Fah | quite |
| 17:39.19 | newsense_ | is xen faster than vbox, vmware ? |
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| 17:39.25 | jackweb | Hi! Any idea how to make closing an active window by pressing 'Esc'? |
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| 17:39.56 | dkr | jackweb: what if you need the esc key inside the application? |
| 17:40.01 | RichiH | DexterF: unless you botch something it doe not sound bad |
| 17:40.04 | DexterF | newsense_: it's *different* |
| 17:40.13 | jerome | well, now, for something completly debian related : anyone experiencing some "null values" from acpi battery/fan on sid recently ? (empty /proc dirs or null values) |
| 17:40.32 | jackweb | dkr: I have never met such application, but you're right. |
| 17:41.17 | newsense_ | DexterF: i get that they are different, which should i use though, im not using the fastest computer |
| 17:41.17 | dkr | jackweb: well, any console/shell. e.g. esc-backspace to delete whole word. and pidgin let's you close conversations with esc |
| 17:41.34 | DexterF | newsense_: what do you wanna *do* with it is the fiorst question |
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| 17:42.36 | newsense_ | DexterF: honestly, i want my girlfriend to be able to use debian primarily, she wants to be able to use here zune though, so i need xp running on it too just for putting music on a zune |
| 17:42.46 | jackweb | dkr: I use alt + backspace when I want to delete a whole word. Gajim also closes conversations with ESC. |
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| 17:43.08 | dkr | jackweb: was just giving examples. :) |
| 17:43.26 | jackweb | It's exactly cool, when I can close a conversation with ESC. :) |
| 17:43.57 | DexterF | newsense_: you're the first person I hear about who knows someone who actually owns one of them thingies. makes me wonder if your gf is @debian why on earth did she get herself a zune? or even: why does anyone get a zune *anyway* when you can have a perfectly _decent_ music player at any shop? :D |
| 17:44.24 | dkr | jackweb: heh, I thought gajim was a typo before my aptitude search showed it wasn't :) |
| 17:44.53 | newsense_ | DexterF: she got it for christmas and shes a windows/aol user but im getting her to switch over again, had her runnign debian once before |
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| 17:45.40 | jpinx | I'm getting corrupt packages during a fresh install from us miirrors, but clean from Australia |
| 17:46.01 | gangsterlicious | jpinx: i've been experiencing the same thing started this morning |
| 17:46.06 | gangsterlicious | Hash Sum mismatch? |
| 17:46.21 | DexterF | newsense_: anyway, you probably want vbox or vmware workstation 6.5 rather. latter is expensive or torrentz.com, your choice, so for just one app I'd go for vbox.. tho... mh.. well.. vbox and usb2.0 used to be a shit fight. |
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| 17:46.30 | jpinx | gangsterlicious: I got that and some corruption too |
| 17:46.40 | jpinx | been trying all morning here |
| 17:46.52 | jpinx | now using au mirror with success but slow |
| 17:46.59 | gangsterlicious | i thought it was Xen assigning diff. IP across my eth0 and br0 devices. i guess not :) good to know someone else having the same problem |
| 17:47.56 | newsense_ | DexterF: cool ill check out vbox, i really don't have much of a choice as she's not giving up the zune, ill check in the vbox channel once i get it if i have any problems, thanks |
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| 17:48.31 | DexterF | what on earth does one find in zune... its ugly, it's buggy, it's ms, probably has DRM all over... does it have DRM? |
| 17:48.39 | jerome | I could use some tips to properly setup a dvorak keyboard layout in console, gdm and gnome. Things were just too simple before, now it seems evdev/hal/xorg/gdm/gnome-settings-daemon needs more than a slick xorg.conf and some xmodmap'ing. |
| 17:48.50 | jerome | Any link ? |
| 17:49.10 | newsense_ | she got the zune from her mom, i don't see whats so special myself, she likes it because it's pink im sure |
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| 17:50.04 | aidan | ImportError: Could not import settings 'app.settings' (Is it on sys.path? Does it have syntax errors?): No module named app.settings |
| 17:50.45 | Spida | gangsterlicious: I am running xen on etch |
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| 17:51.12 | DexterF | newsense_: makes perfect sense if you're XX chromosomed |
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| 17:53.07 | DexterF | whee |
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| 17:54.23 | jpinx | I'd like to download the set of packages for a base install and store them locally. How can I do that and then use them for mutiple installations from maybe a USB stick |
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| 17:55.19 | aidan | I have sys.path.append('/var/www/myapp') and /var/www/myapp/settings.py exists. |
| 17:55.26 | aidan | What else could be going wrong? |
| 17:55.34 | aidan | ohh wrong channel, sorry |
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| 17:55.42 | noped | debian sux ! slackware rulez the world !!!!!!!!!! |
| 17:56.00 | gangsterlicious | aidan: http://distro.ibiblio.org/debian/ seems to work |
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| 17:58.58 | dkr | Is this a gnome issue?(haven't found any relevant gconf settings) any idea how to make it so that when I iceweasel -remote "openurl(%s,new-tab)" (e.g. by clicking link in pidgin or xchat) it doesn't move iceweasel from its current desktop to my current desktop? (this behavior changed from etch to lenny) |
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| 18:05.48 | mischief- | anyone know of a utility like TcpView from Sysinternals for linux? |
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| 18:06.59 | DexterF | mischief-: whats that? |
| 18:07.00 | icenine | yo yo yo. what package is start-stop-daemon in? it disappeared |
| 18:07.23 | hoxu | mischief-, netstat? |
| 18:07.26 | cahoot | mischief-: like iptraf? |
| 18:07.32 | hoxu | mischief-, or lsof, try describing what TcpView does |
| 18:07.45 | jolts | anyone know why i cant use sound with multiple processes? i have a snd_hda_intel (ich8) card and have had that functionality workign under another dist, i've followed the alsa wiki and recompiled alsa-drivers/modules to no avail |
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| 18:08.17 | cahoot | jolts: only use alsaaware apps |
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| 18:09.08 | mischief- | hoxu: TcpView is similar to netstat, tcptrack, except it shows the process name |
| 18:09.10 | jolts | cahoot: well, both virtualbox and xmms are alsa-aware, havent helped me tho :\ |
| 18:09.18 | hoxu | mischief-, netstat has -p |
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| 18:10.04 | mischief- | hoxu: i am looking for something more like top/htop, perhaps something like tcptrack that shows bandwidth? :) |
| 18:10.06 | cahoot | jolts: I doubt xmms is well behaved wrt alsa - try two instances of mplayer to test |
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| 18:10.55 | hoxu | mischief-, nethogs? |
| 18:11.23 | hoxu | mischief-, http://blog.fealdia.org/2008/08/13/real-time-network-monitoring-utilities/ might be useful FWIW |
| 18:11.29 | icenine | fudge |
| 18:11.32 | icenine | i ficed it |
| 18:11.35 | icenine | fixed* |
| 18:12.43 | jolts | cahoot: hmm youre right but i dont get why it works absolutely perfectly under another dist :\ |
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| 18:12.53 | jolts | the soundcard itself should support multiple processes |
| 18:14.46 | cahoot | jolts: really ? how many subdevices in /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/info? |
| 18:15.17 | jolts | subdevice: 0 |
| 18:15.24 | jolts | ie 1 i mean |
| 18:15.57 | cahoot | so you need some sort os software solution |
| 18:16.01 | cahoot | of |
| 18:16.12 | cahoot | like dmix |
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| 18:16.25 | jolts | i tried dmix in my asound.rc :\ |
| 18:16.26 | cahoot | (which obviously is enabled) |
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| 18:16.56 | cahoot | dmix is enabled by default in debian - no need for any .asoundrc |
| 18:17.24 | jolts | okey |
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| 18:19.10 | cahoot | jolts: chances are you make more mess than good with an .asoundrc |
| 18:19.22 | DexterF | um.. off topic, but how do I run truecrypt 6.1a headless? |
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| 18:21.26 | Seb | hi fellows |
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| 18:22.16 | mr_daniel | when I perform a 'apt-cache show <packagename>', which is the dimension of the size description? Byte? Or Kilo-Byte? Or KibiByte? |
| 18:22.22 | Seb | my usbkey is recognized, with the sr and sd modules loaded automatically, but the /dev/sdbN devices are not created unless I for instance run "cfdisk" /dev/sdb |
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| 18:23.07 | Seb | mr_daniel: dyntes I believe |
| 18:23.08 | linuxguy | hi Im hoping you can help me here......ive just finished downloading dvd1 of ver 5.0, the other download failed......but it says the dvd i have got is 8.8gb! |
| 18:23.33 | _J1000 | while printing from adobe reader, I get "The following error occurred while printing... 'usage: lpr [-cdfghlm...........] Any idees why ? |
| 18:23.40 | mr_daniel | what is a 'dynte'? You mean Byte, right Seb ? |
| 18:23.49 | Seb | mr_daniel: uh, yeah |
| 18:23.53 | mr_daniel | ok |
| 18:23.54 | Seb | mr_daniel: i wonder how I type that |
| 18:23.58 | Seb | typed* |
| 18:24.01 | mr_daniel | me too :) |
| 18:24.03 | Seb | damn |
| 18:24.08 | Seb | goes for more coffee |
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| 18:25.33 | _J1000 | really lost here on the print issue |
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| 18:25.55 | linuxguy | hi Im hoping you can help me here......ive just finished downloading dvd1 of ver 5.0, the other download failed......but it says the dvd image i have got is 8.8gb! |
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| 18:26.46 | dondelelcaro | linuxguy: that almost certainly means that you've downloaded either the wrong image, or onto a filesystem that doesn't support large files |
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| 18:27.42 | linuxguy | dondelelcaro, ive checked that out its devinately dvd1 at 4.4gb |
| 18:27.58 | dondelelcaro | linuxguy: well, then something is very wrong |
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| 18:29.37 | linuxguy | look at the properties debian-500-i386-DVD-1.iso size 8.2gb |
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| 18:36.22 | linuxguy | dondelelcaro, even the firefox download says its 4.4gb....try and burn it its 8.2gb.......something is very wrong! |
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| 18:37.06 | mr_daniel | someone needs to update the documentation for 'apt-cache' and 'dpkg': I am not able to find which dimension the 'size' and 'installed-size' information from a 'apt-cache show <packagename>' has |
| 18:37.13 | Twister | Hi everyone, I am trying to create a preseeded install of debian (using etch) and im running into some issues during the process. I have the preseed.cfg file slipstreamed into the initrd.gz and the installer is running it. I am just having a problem with a few of the configuration directives. What i am trying to make is a hands off install. My first problem is i get to the point where its wanting to partition disks. It gives 4 options, Guided - use e |
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| 18:37.39 | dondelelcaro | mr_daniel: bytes |
| 18:37.43 | Twister | does anyone know what i woudl need to put in the preseed.cfg file to make it auto select that? |
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| 18:38.00 | dondelelcaro | linuxguy: what are you using to burn it? what operating system is this? |
| 18:38.05 | mr_daniel | for example a 'apt-cache show vim' tells me: installed-size=1652 and size=845212 |
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| 18:38.20 | Twister | or have a good reference i can look at. looked at the wiki but it dont explain the directives just shows some of them |
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| 18:38.39 | arezey | mr_daniel, so installed-size=>1mb and size=~840mb |
| 18:38.57 | arezey | s/mb/kb/ |
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| 18:39.03 | mr_daniel | but is this possible? this would mean that the .deb package of vim is about 1 MB, but the size on disk is just about 1.5 KB? |
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| 18:39.18 | arezey | mr_daniel, yeah, kilobytes, i wrote wrong |
| 18:39.22 | linuxguy | dondelelcaro, im using f10 using kde 4.1 and kde to burn |
| 18:40.43 | mr_daniel | this is a huge difference, is this normal for .deb packages? I just want to be sure that the dimension of size and installed-size is really Bytes |
| 18:40.55 | arezey | well it seems they are |
| 18:41.17 | arezey | (generally, s/x/y/ replaces all occurrences of x with y, this is used in irc too to correct mistakes the "geek" way ;) ) |
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| 18:41.42 | maligor | I'd imagine they are kbytes |
| 18:41.59 | arezey | hmm... |
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| 18:42.36 | mr_daniel | I guess someone needs to update the man-pages of apt-cache and dpkg, there is just no information about the dimension of size and installed-size |
| 18:43.00 | dondelelcaro | mr_daniel: neither apt-cache nor dpkg has anything to do with those fields |
| 18:43.04 | mr_daniel | I mean: is it really possible that vim is just 1.5 KiloByte big? |
| 18:43.17 | mischief- | for some reason iptraf does not 'support' the interfaces of OpenVZ.. |
| 18:43.39 | dondelelcaro | mr_daniel: Installed-Size is kb, Size: is bytes |
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| 18:44.20 | mr_daniel | I dont understand why there is a inconsistency between the dimension of size and installed-size. For beginners this can be confusing |
| 18:44.30 | arezey | seconds that |
| 18:44.57 | dondelelcaro | mr_daniel: they both should be in bytes, but for historical reasons, installed-size isn't. |
| 18:45.15 | dondelelcaro | (it's not like Installed-Size is particularly useful, either) |
| 18:45.40 | mr_daniel | and I also do not understand why apt-cache and dpkg has nothing to do with those fields? When I as a user want to now how much space a installed package consumes, I must now the dimension |
| 18:45.54 | mr_daniel | and when I need to download a package, I want to now its size |
| 18:45.59 | dondelelcaro | mr_daniel: because neither dpkg nor apt-cache are responsible for generating them |
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| 18:46.06 | mr_daniel | and for this I of course use apt-cache and spkg |
| 18:46.21 | mr_daniel | so I dont understand why the man-pages should not be updated, I dont get it ??? |
| 18:46.28 | dondelelcaro | mr_daniel: Size is generated by the archive software, and Installed-Size is an entry in the CONTROL field of the package. |
| 18:46.33 | linuxguy | All I want to do is burn a debian image cos one of the pcs has crashed |
| 18:46.54 | dondelelcaro | s/field/file/ |
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| 18:47.52 | mr_daniel | lol, I like the usage of regular expression to correct a previous sentence :) |
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| 18:48.41 | arezey | mr_daniel, it's quite common |
| 18:48.43 | arezey | at least here |
| 18:48.48 | mr_daniel | ok, now I know that size=bytes and installed-size=kilobytes |
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| 18:49.48 | mr_daniel | this is the first channel on FreeNode I see where the subsitution construct of regular expressions is used to correct a previous sentence. For me its very unusual, but I find it very cool too :) |
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| 18:50.03 | arezey | oh? i thought it was common |
| 18:50.08 | arezey | at least on freenode |
| 18:50.10 | arezey | heh. |
| 18:50.15 | Xanthor[aw] | (yes, it is) |
| 18:50.18 | dandc | clearly you're not in enough channels with me ;P |
| 18:50.22 | Xanthor[aw] | i've got an error upgrating dpkg : |
| 18:50.23 | mr_daniel | maybe I am in the wrong channels, I dont know |
| 18:50.24 | arezey | heh |
| 18:50.41 | Xanthor[aw] | touch: setting times of `/var/log/dpkg.log': Function not implemented dpkg: error processing dpkg (--install): |
| 18:50.47 | dondelelcaro | mr_daniel: anyway, a patch to correct deb_control to add documentation of Installed-Size would probably be accepted |
| 18:50.56 | dondelelcaro | Xanthor[aw]: what kernel are you installing on? |
| 18:51.07 | mr_daniel | despite that: thank you @all for your help of understanding apt-cache und dpkg a little better |
| 18:51.34 | Xanthor[aw] | dondelelcaro : 2.6.18 |
| 18:51.44 | dondelelcaro | mr_daniel: and as far as size, I suppose apt-cache might be a reasonable place to document that, but it really should be part of dak or similar |
| 18:51.53 | dondelelcaro | Xanthor[aw]: and what filessystem? |
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| 18:52.10 | dondelelcaro | Xanthor[aw]: what is the output of cat /proc/mounts; and uname -a; |
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| 18:52.18 | linuxguy | >>points out really big difference from 4.4gb file to an 8,2gb file..........lol!! |
| 18:52.39 | dondelelcaro | linuxguy: what does stat; say about the file? what is its md5sum? |
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| 18:52.54 | dondelelcaro | linuxguy: compare to http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.0/i386/iso-dvd/MD5SUMS |
| 18:53.02 | dondelelcaro | linuxguy: if they don't match, download the iso again using wget. |
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| 18:53.14 | linuxguy | mdsum says its correct size 4.4 gb |
| 18:53.14 | dondelelcaro | linuxguy: or if you have a reasonable network connection, just use the netinst iso |
| 18:53.22 | Xanthor[aw] | dondelelcaro : /dev/hdb5 on /usr type ext3 |
| 18:53.25 | dondelelcaro | linuxguy: then whatever you are using to burn is busted |
| 18:53.39 | Xanthor[aw] | dondelelcaro : uname : 2.6.18 #2 SMP PREEMPT Tue Dec 23 18:45:04 CET 2008 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 18:53.47 | mr_daniel | see dondelelcaro, I am not a (GNU/)linux or debian expert, I am more a kind of beginner with some minor knowledge in many fields, and for me as a beginner it would be just logically to but information about the dimensions of size and installed-size in the man-pages of apt-cache and dpkg, because these are the tools I would use now the size |
| 18:53.47 | linuxguy | dondelelcaro, im using k3b and feedora |
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| 18:54.23 | mr_daniel | you have another perspective, because you are more familiar with dpkg etc. |
| 18:54.28 | dondelelcaro | Xanthor[aw]: that's not a Debian kernel; try upgrading to a Debian kernel first. |
| 18:54.39 | arezey | linuxguy, fedora? that may be the reason too... |
| 18:54.44 | arezey | runs |
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| 18:55.01 | dondelelcaro | mr_daniel: they belong on the right place, with pointers from the manpages of the places which are wrong that people may look in |
| 18:55.20 | dandc | I'm trying to firewall my box. If I jump to another chain from input, does it return to going through the input chain if there were no matches? |
| 18:55.21 | Xanthor[aw] | dondelelcaro actually it is : 2.6.18.dfsg.1-23etch1 |
| 18:55.37 | dondelelcaro | Xanthor[aw]: the uname -a; output certainly doesn't match it |
| 18:56.06 | Xanthor[aw] | I can't say why, but you have to trust me on that point |
| 18:56.13 | dkr | dandc: yes |
| 18:56.14 | Xanthor[aw] | I've always used deb kernels |
| 18:56.24 | dandc | thanks, dkr =) |
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| 18:56.39 | Xanthor[aw] | but what does the kernel has to do with the dpkg upgrade ? |
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| 18:57.01 | linuxguy | arejay, im not sure, the other box (kubuntu ) crashed fedora was the only way i could download the file agian |
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| 18:58.21 | dondelelcaro | Xanthor[aw]: because touch is failing with Function not implemented, which generally means that your kernel doesn't support the syscal needed to set the times on the filesystem |
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| 18:58.52 | Xanthor[aw] | is it a recent change (in debian packages ?) |
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| 18:59.11 | dondelelcaro | Xanthor[aw]: it's a change in coreutils |
| 18:59.16 | dondelelcaro | Xanthor[aw]: the other option is that the filesystem that /var is on is some weird filesystem that isn't POSIX compliant |
| 18:59.27 | sin | if i was running lenny, now that it is stable, do I just change my apt/source.list to %s/lenny/stable/g ? |
| 18:59.39 | dondelelcaro | if you're actually running 2.6.18-6-686, you won't have problems |
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| 18:59.47 | dondelelcaro | (or whatever is the right kernel) |
| 18:59.48 | Chousuke | sin: you can keep it at lenny |
| 19:00.01 | Chousuke | sin: it'll get you the exact same thing :) |
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| 19:00.31 | sin | thanks Chousuke |
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| 19:01.17 | Shadowcat | n00b question |
| 19:01.20 | Xanthor[aw] | dondelelcaro : /dev/root / ext3 rw,data=ordered : so /var/ should be OK ? |
| 19:01.21 | Shadowcat | created a Linux router |
| 19:01.30 | Shadowcat | and I can't for the life of me figure out why port forwarding isn't working |
| 19:01.35 | Xanthor[aw] | dondelelcaro : I just upgrader coreutil 2 days ago... |
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| 19:02.56 | arezey | shadowcat, you consider that a n00b question? it's a pain here too |
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| 19:03.07 | Shadowcat | http://www.pastebin.ca/1342159 is the pastebin for active rules |
| 19:03.08 | dkr | Shadowcat: maybe you are testing it from inside the network instead of externally? you need an extra rule to be able to go out and back in via port forward |
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| 19:03.41 | Shadowcat | dkr: we have one inside and one outside |
| 19:03.43 | Shadowcat | none work |
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| 19:03.49 | Shadowcat | the frustrating part is that I had it working 30 min ago |
| 19:03.55 | Shadowcat | and I can't for the life of me remember what I did |
| 19:04.01 | Xanthor[aw] | dondelelcaro : could you give me the touch command launched during the upgrade of dpkg, in order to do more tests ? |
| 19:04.25 | Amse | Anyone knows if Amarok supports FLAC?¿ |
| 19:04.48 | arezey | amse, #amarok |
| 19:05.08 | Amse | Thanks a lot. |
| 19:05.20 | Shadowcat | so any ideas? |
| 19:05.56 | dkr | Shadowcat: yes, you seem to be confused about INPUT vs FORWARD chani |
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| 19:06.52 | dkr | Shadowcat: a packet coming and being port forward via your prerouting rules has a destination other than the local machine. therefore it is going to traverse the forward chain, not the input chain(which is where you erroneously have accept rules for the port-forwarded ports like 3333 |
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| 19:08.25 | Shadowcat | hmm |
| 19:08.30 | linuxguy | arezey, im not sure, the other box (kubuntu ) crashed fedora was the only way i could download the file agian and burn it using k3b |
| 19:08.42 | Shadowcat | hold on |
| 19:09.30 | dkr | Shadowcat: your forward chain is acepting new packets, but only on eth2, not eth1 where you are portforwarding |
| 19:11.08 | Shadowcat | so iptables -A FORWARD -i eth1 -m state --state NEW -j ACCEPT |
| 19:11.10 | Shadowcat | would do it? |
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| 19:12.08 | _J1000 | while printing from adobe reader, I get "The following error occurred while printing... 'usage: lpr [-cdfghlm...........] Any idees why ? |
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| 19:12.56 | xxtjaxx | has anybody some intresting projects i can be involved in Im seeking for a new adventure in Life |
| 19:13.49 | _J1000 | printing from cups admin gui works fine "test page" |
| 19:13.59 | _J1000 | lpr comman dont work though |
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| 19:14.07 | _J1000 | missing package ? |
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| 19:14.15 | stuckey | What program can one use for making a virtual machine with an x-server? |
| 19:14.26 | dkr | Shadowcat: looks like it |
| 19:14.37 | dkr | stuckey: virtualbox |
| 19:15.00 | stuckey | dkr: what about xen and vmware? |
| 19:15.29 | Ace2017_- | synaptic is downloading a package at 238kB/s and a new tab loading google took about 30 seconds, something is seriously wrong with the way connections are handled |
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| 19:16.13 | Amse | Can someone tell what are the actual repositories for lenny? |
| 19:16.15 | _J1000 | stuckey: http://www.virtualbox.org/ |
| 19:16.26 | Amse | i have a trouble with repos |
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| 19:17.20 | Ace2017_- | Amse: the mirrors available are here: http://www.debian.org/mirror/list |
| 19:17.32 | Amse | oh |
| 19:17.34 | Shadowcat | sorry about that dkr |
| 19:17.37 | Shadowcat | ok, just did that |
| 19:17.38 | Amse | ceratinly |
| 19:17.41 | Shadowcat | now gonna try it from the outside |
| 19:17.44 | Amse | *certainly |
| 19:17.46 | Amse | xD |
| 19:17.50 | Amse | Excuse me xD |
| 19:18.43 | Ace2017_- | ...? |
| 19:18.50 | xxtjaxx | has anybody some intresting projects i can be involved in Im seeking for a new adventure in Life |
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| 19:19.16 | Ace2017_- | xxtjaxx: like a programming project? |
| 19:19.26 | xxtjaxx | YES please |
| 19:19.29 | blsecres | xxtjaxx: looked at the help wanted section on sf.net? |
| 19:19.44 | xxtjaxx | nope not yet |
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| 19:20.15 | Shadowcat | dkr: you said that I needed an additional rule if I wanted to connect to it within the lan? |
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| 19:21.27 | Graveworm | Hi everyone :). I just was logged on a machine via ssh updating it. But then the connection died so aptitude is still running. Is there a way to gain access again to the ssh screen that I was connected to? |
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| 19:21.41 | dkr | Shadowcat: http://netfilter.org/documentation/HOWTO//NAT-HOWTO-10.html |
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| 19:22.22 | Shadowcat | thanks |
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| 19:22.56 | dkr | Graveworm: funny that you should use the word "screen" in that question |
| 19:23.10 | dkr | Graveworm: the program named "screen" is the answer to that question. :) |
| 19:23.25 | shingouz | grrr... i am getting a "no TLS/SSL for login" when i try to get onto google talk with this computer on pidgin. which package do i need to get the tls/ssl support on pidgin? |
| 19:23.49 | Graveworm | Oh :)... Erm.. ok... But how can I reconnect then? |
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| 19:24.31 | shingouz | Graveworm: when you open up a new ssh session, launch screen immediately, then start doing the real work. man screen has a lot of information about it |
| 19:24.36 | dkr | Graveworm: well, you need to have been running it before you started aptitude. can't reconnect to dropped session normally. oh wait aminute, can you assh to the machine at all now? |
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| 19:25.22 | stuckey | I'm getting an error in Virtualbox-ose that says that the virtual machine failed to start, since the kernel driver isn't accessible to the current user. |
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| 19:25.39 | stuckey | It asks that the current user be added to the group "vboxusers", however, the current user is already a memeber of "vboxusers." |
| 19:26.10 | dkr | stuckey: is /dev/vboxdrv group read-writable? |
| 19:26.31 | Graveworm | dkr: Yes, it seems that the connection is fine again now. |
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| 19:26.57 | Graveworm | dkr: So I can see that aptitude/dpkg is running. So I have to kill the process? |
| 19:26.59 | stuckey | dkr: yes |
| 19:27.03 | mtllc22 | good afternoon someone can tell me how to find the name of a network adapter wi-fi in debian (I do not know if it is wlan0, 1, 2 |
| 19:27.11 | mtllc22 | escuse my inglish |
| 19:27.15 | stuckey | mtllc22: iwconfig |
| 19:27.16 | dkr | stuckey: and did you "newgrp vboxusers" or relog after adding the user to the group? |
| 19:27.20 | stuckey | mtllc22: *excuse |
| 19:27.23 | qabulin | hello... im looking for someone keen with connecting to SSHD (open) outside of the server's network. |
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| 19:27.35 | Graveworm | shingouz: Hm.. But screen isn't installed on that machine and aptitude is locked :( |
| 19:27.55 | stuckey | dkr: the group was already created on install, I added the user. |
| 19:27.56 | blsecres | mtllc22: what shows up when you run $ /sbin/ifconfig -a |
| 19:28.30 | dkr | Graveworm: unfortunately, yes |
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| 19:28.40 | twiadpaws | lo |
| 19:28.44 | dkr | stuckey: do you know what the newgrp command does? |
| 19:28.58 | stuckey | dkr: it logges into a new group |
| 19:29.00 | mtllc22 | stuckey not list, and when I give it a ls pci appears loaded |
| 19:29.08 | twiadpaws | how can i automatically login with telnet using both given username and password |
| 19:29.21 | dkr | stuckey: ok, just making sure, since ebig in the group and logged into are kind o fdorkey concepts that can be confusing |
| 19:29.25 | dkr | being |
| 19:29.29 | qabulin | (( sidenote: has anyone found a major flaw/dislike with the latest lenny dpkg?? )) |
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| 19:29.53 | stuckey | dkr: Wait... so this user needs to login to this group, not just be a member of it? |
| 19:30.10 | dkr | stuckey: yes, that's what the newgrp command does |
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| 19:30.16 | Xanthor[aw] | dondelelcaro : found : it was a bug in coreutils/6.12-1, fixed in coreutils/6.12-2 .... |
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| 19:30.30 | dkr | stuckey: or you could chown username /dev/vboxdrv, hah |
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| 19:30.54 | Graveworm | Ok... thanks for help :) |
| 19:30.57 | one_2_one | hi all |
| 19:31.10 | qabulin | hello. ^.^ |
| 19:31.19 | stuckey | dkr: running newgrp doesn't help either |
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| 19:32.17 | parsifal_ | how do I list what files are in a package? |
| 19:32.29 | parsifal_ | like if I have the "vim" package installed, how do I list the installed files? |
| 19:32.35 | one_2_one | using apt.. how can i download all packages available ? "for this arch theres only 1200 packages" |
| 19:32.40 | dkr | stuckey: weird. running out of ideas. as to why it would give you such a misleading error message |
| 19:32.44 | llutz | parsifal_: dpkg -L vim |
| 19:32.47 | dkr | parsifal_: dpkg -L |
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| 19:33.15 | parsifal_ | thanks :) |
| 19:33.19 | nkuttler | stuckey: what command did you actually run? |
| 19:33.24 | dkr | stuckey: the vboxdrv kernel module is loaded, right? lsmod|grep vb |
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| 19:33.33 | stuckey | nkuttler: "newgrp x" where x was the username. |
| 19:33.49 | dkr | oops |
| 19:33.51 | stuckey | nkuttler: correction, where x was vboxusers |
| 19:33.51 | nkuttler | stuckey: well, man newgrp |
| 19:33.56 | nkuttler | ah |
| 19:33.56 | dkr | stuckey: newgrp groupname |
| 19:34.14 | parsifal_ | man this installed way fewer files than I thought it did |
| 19:34.15 | dkr | darn, so we still don't know what's wrong. :) |
| 19:34.25 | stuckey | dkr: Yes it's loaded. |
| 19:35.13 | nkuttler | parsifal_: vim pulls in quite a few deps |
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| 19:36.16 | Nazcafan | hi |
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| 19:37.08 | Nazcafan | does anyone know how to setup a "guest" account? |
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| 19:38.09 | dkr | just add a new user named guest? :) |
| 19:38.13 | parsifal_ | nkuttler, oh, no, I wasn't really looking at vim :) I was looking at xfce4-artwork |
| 19:38.59 | Nazcafan | dkr: I need all the data to be wipped at logout |
| 19:39.15 | Nazcafan | dkr: plus no password |
| 19:39.29 | qabulin | Nazcafan: whats wrong with an expiration time? |
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| 19:40.23 | Nazcafan | qabulin: that is? |
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| 19:41.26 | dkr | Nazcafan: hrm, maybe a logout script that does something like rm -rf ~guest/*; cp -a /etc/skel ~guest |
| 19:41.30 | qabulin | Nazcafan: when you set up a new user, you can also set up the expiry time of the length of their password..... once it expires, the account is locked untill further notice from you. |
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| 19:41.55 | qabulin | *length = the amount of time that the password is good for |
| 19:41.58 | blsecres | anyone using emacs in the console? have you been able to get C-S-anything to work? |
| 19:42.09 | qabulin | blsecres |
| 19:42.13 | qabulin | .. i do |
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| 19:42.34 | qabulin | blsecres: what file are you specifically trying to Save? |
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| 19:43.01 | qabulin | blsecres: did you check to see if you need permission to write to it? |
| 19:43.27 | blsecres | qabulin: I'm trying to get control and shift to work simultaneously for say undo <control><shift>- |
| 19:43.55 | Nazcafan | qabulin: I prefer not having to give any password |
| 19:44.14 | syntax_enable | does anyone know where I might be able to find an interactive bash prompt online over a web browser? |
| 19:44.19 | blsecres | meta, control, shift and control+meta works, just not control+shift |
| 19:44.31 | stuckey | Does Lenny have a flash plugin? |
| 19:44.38 | blsecres | and of course there's zero documentation for the keymap file format |
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| 19:44.55 | syntax_enable | stuckey: foss or closed source?? |
| 19:45.01 | stuckey | syntax_enable: foss |
| 19:45.12 | syntax_enable | yea, I think its gnash I believe. |
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| 19:46.36 | qabulin | blsecres: sorry, mate, i guess i dont follow |
| 19:46.42 | qabulin | :: shrugs :: |
| 19:46.52 | qabulin | Nazcafan: hold a sec... |
| 19:47.24 | xxtjaxx | which is the sf.net help wanted section |
| 19:47.33 | xxtjaxx | that for the jobs? |
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| 19:49.46 | teefive | hi |
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| 19:54.54 | blsecres | xxtjaxx: http://sourceforge.net/people/ |
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| 19:56.23 | stuckey | I'm trying to watch a movie in mplayer in fullscreen but when I hit F it just keeps the same size... how can I make it ful screen? |
| 19:57.02 | qabulin | Nazcafan: to get logging without password is not very good (which of course i do not need to explain) and to do so, you could put together some lengthy scripts to bypass very important /etc/ files.... |
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| 19:57.10 | Eulex | stuckey, it's f, not F. but are you using an output driver that supports fullscreen? |
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| 19:57.31 | qabulin | ..... that is unless u shut down passwords for everyone which is worse of an idea. |
| 19:57.42 | qabulin | Nazcafan: easy solution.... |
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| 19:58.01 | qabulin | Nazcafan: set the password the same as the username |
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| 19:58.09 | stuckey | Eulex: I don't know which one i'm using... |
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| 19:59.14 | Eulex | stuckey, try -vo xv or -vo gl, or list the available ones with -vo help. -fs is the command line option to run in fullscreen. |
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| 19:59.25 | qabulin | Nazcafan: modify the user so that the password expires... you can also set a warning to popup when the user does log in, telling to the impending lock of the account that soon approaching. |
| 19:59.42 | simonrvn | why do the autoconf files use bash ? is it some perverse gnu thing? or is there some logic to it? |
| 19:59.45 | Nazcafan | qabulin: what if I set the password to an empty string? |
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| 20:00.11 | stuckey | Eulex: with -vo gl it goes fullscreen but it's really choppy... says computer is too slow to play the movie. |
| 20:00.18 | Nazcafan | qabulin: I was not clear enough |
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| 20:00.37 | enouf | stuckey: focus the mouse before hitting f |
| 20:00.44 | qabulin | Nazcafan: to be honest, i just tried that and im getting similar results as if the password was nill... or expired. |
| 20:00.58 | enouf | stuckey: you want -vo xv |
| 20:01.04 | Eulex | simonrvn, well. autoconf configuration scripts are written in 'shell with macros', but where you can embed arbitrary shell code. then they generate pure shell code from that. |
| 20:01.12 | twiadpaws | how can i output all files and folder found on a ftp-server back to the shell script? |
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| 20:01.20 | Eulex | stuckey, do you have 3d acceleration? |
| 20:01.22 | stuckey | enouf: -vo xv gies no video playback... just audio |
| 20:01.22 | Nazcafan | qabulin: I want guests in my house to use my computer without having to bother about a password |
| 20:01.24 | stuckey | Eulex: no |
| 20:01.37 | FredZ | 1 of our production servers suffered an extended power outage lastnight. I have just turned it on and I get "error13: Invalid or unsupported executable format" message. did a bit of googling and it seems the image is corrupt. How can I copy the original image from the CD the the hard drive. I am running r4 (etch). |
| 20:01.38 | enouf | stuckey: then you did something really wrong |
| 20:01.38 | Eulex | stuckey, then -vo gl will obviously not work well, as it uses opengl. |
| 20:02.02 | stuckey | enouf: ? I put in "mplayer -vo vx *.avi" |
| 20:02.06 | stuckey | enouf: what's wrong with that? |
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| 20:02.13 | enouf | stuckey: that has nothing to do with f thoiugh |
| 20:02.23 | Eulex | stuckey, xv, not vx |
| 20:02.29 | enouf | avi are weird |
| 20:02.57 | qabulin | Nazcafan: this is what i would do....... |
| 20:02.58 | stuckey | enouf: okay I did xv ... it doesn't work. |
| 20:03.05 | enouf | you suck |
| 20:03.14 | Eulex | stuckey, -vo xv requires xvideo support in your xorg driver. which one are you using that provides neither 3d accel nor xvideo? |
| 20:03.27 | stuckey | Eulex: I"m using the "nv" driver. |
| 20:03.29 | simonrvn | Eulex: but why use /bin/bash then instead of just using the system sh ? |
| 20:03.38 | enouf | stuckey: so am i |
| 20:03.41 | Eulex | stuckey, oh, poor you. |
| 20:03.48 | qabulin | Nazcafan: for regular people, set user names for them that way they have their own home directories.... everyone else gets username "guest" |
| 20:03.56 | Eulex | nv is not supposed to do xvideo, right? |
| 20:03.58 | enouf | vo -xv works fine |
| 20:04.04 | enouf | even on a p2 |
| 20:04.08 | qabulin | Nazcafan: THEN, set the password the same as the user name. |
| 20:04.12 | Eulex | enouf, xvinfo |
| 20:04.22 | enouf | Eulex: paste? |
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| 20:04.35 | Nazcafan | qabulin: well, no other choice |
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| 20:04.43 | Eulex | well, whether you have the extension or not should be enough to answer that question ^^ |
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| 20:04.59 | qabulin | Nazcafan: thats the simplest way without writing out scripts that jeopardize the systems integrity. |
| 20:05.01 | enouf | ~$ pi xvinfo |
| 20:05.02 | enouf | Your paste URL is: http://pastebin.ca/raw/1342206 |
| 20:05.05 | enouf | Eulex: |
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| 20:05.26 | qabulin | Nazcafan: the user should not be so put out as to type in their name twice ;^) |
| 20:05.50 | Eulex | enouf, oh, so nv picked up xvideo support (ie some 2d accel) lately? may it be that you and stuckey have different versions of it? |
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| 20:06.03 | Eulex | stuckey, pastebin the output of xvinfo |
| 20:06.13 | Nazcafan | qabulin: you underestimate my sister stupidity |
| 20:06.21 | qabulin | Nazcafan: ALSO, if they have their own directories and identities, its easier to troubleshoot failures to the cause, should they arise |
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| 20:06.26 | qabulin | ROFL |
| 20:06.30 | enouf | Eulex: no idea, i've been using nv + -vo xv for years |
| 20:06.30 | qabulin | i understand ^_^ |
| 20:06.33 | stuckey | Eulex: http://paste.debian.net/28774/ |
| 20:06.36 | Eulex | enouf, hmm |
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| 20:07.15 | Eulex | stuckey, so what I was assuming was correct. you do not have xvideo support. |
| 20:07.28 | themill | qabulin: is something like "kiosk mode" what you're looking for? |
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| 20:08.03 | stuckey | Eulex: how do I get it? |
| 20:08.35 | qabulin | themill: Nazcafan is hunting for a user with no password solution... that might be what he needs.... i would not mind knowing, mehself >_> |
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| 20:08.45 | Eulex | stuckey, I don't know. I don't know why there's a difference between your and enouf's setup. |
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| 20:09.12 | Nazcafan | themill: I think |
| 20:09.39 | Nazcafan | themill: can you tell me more about kiosk mode ? |
| 20:10.04 | stuckey | Eulex: i'm using Lenny... |
| 20:10.06 | themill | Nazcafan: I know little about it... KDE certainly has a kiosk mode -- ask google about it. |
| 20:10.09 | pobega | If I have files on one computer that I want to play on another, what is the easiest way to go about that? SSH, NFS, etc? I don't need anything more than to play the files over LAN. |
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| 20:10.56 | blsecres | ice/shout cast? NFS would be faster than sshfs |
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| 20:11.32 | pobega | Well, it's just music/movies really |
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| 20:12.32 | qabulin | Nazcafan: linky ())> http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7718 <(() |
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| 20:13.08 | enouf | stuckey: get a grip and install some shit |
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| 20:13.40 | Graveworm | FredZ: Which boot loader do you use? |
| 20:15.03 | qabulin | i had some questions... if someone was keen in openssh ^_^ |
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| 20:15.44 | stuckey | enouf: can you pastebin your xorg? |
| 20:16.00 | Nazcafan | qabulin: seems nice but I use gnome :-( |
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| 20:17.00 | qabulin | Nazcafan: Kiosk Mode looks to run in a init file.... so that means you CAN run kiosk with GNOME if you gather the proper dependencies. ;)\ |
| 20:17.07 | enouf | stuckey: you 1st pastebin your lspci -nnk |
| 20:17.07 | mandric | i'm trying to install libmysqlclient5-dev but get an error Failed to fetch http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/m/mysql-dfsg-5.0/mysql-common_5.0.32-7etch8_all.deb: MD5Sum mismatch |
| 20:17.11 | mandric | on etch |
| 20:17.22 | Nazcafan | qabulin: good luck with that |
| 20:17.25 | mandric | what does this mean? and how to fix? |
| 20:17.27 | qabulin | haha YUP |
| 20:17.40 | qabulin | thats getting down and dirty for lil' sis :^D |
| 20:17.57 | stuckey | enouf: http://paste.debian.net/28775/ |
| 20:18.05 | mikedub_ | I have a laptop with a busted screen that will soon become my new linux box at home. The screen is fubar in such a way that I can only see the top half. the vga port is busted too. Any ideas how i can make the console display on only the top half of the screen? |
| 20:18.07 | qabulin | she needs to learn scripting..... linux dependencies.... or typing her name twice ;^) |
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| 20:18.57 | mikedub_ | I just need to get the machine to the point that I can SSH into it. :P |
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| 20:19.24 | blsecres | mikedub_: stty rows 10 maybe? |
| 20:19.46 | blsecres | or however many rows you can actually see |
| 20:19.59 | qabulin | mikedub: where are you at in your adventures in SSH thus far?? |
| 20:20.14 | mikedub_ | qabulin: eh? |
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| 20:20.35 | mikedub_ | blsecres: I can try, I suppose. |
| 20:21.00 | pobega | Is there any way to specify that I only want certain MAC addresses being able to access my NFS mount in /etc/exports? |
| 20:21.18 | FredZ | How do I copy the kernel image from the install CD to the hard drive? |
| 20:21.26 | qabulin | mikedub: dont you have a VGA out? |
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| 20:21.33 | enouf | stuckey: i'll happily post it, but it won't make a bit of difference and likely make it worse, i'm on a p2 with a ~2000 era agp card |
| 20:21.54 | Shadowcat | how do I foward using iptables so that I can call a lan server by using a routable ip? |
| 20:22.03 | stuckey | enouf: I'm trying to figure out why you can run fullscreen and I can't. |
| 20:22.05 | orgthingy | Failed to fetch http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/c/cheese/cheese_2.22.3-3_i386.deb Hash Sum mismatch |
| 20:22.08 | orgthingy | E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing? |
| 20:22.11 | orgthingy | now days, i get these a lot |
| 20:22.13 | orgthingy | what should i do :-/ ? |
| 20:22.18 | orgthingy | wants cheese so hard xD |
| 20:22.20 | Shadowcat | in our case we want to be able to access 213.115.110.229 from inside our lan |
| 20:22.23 | mikedub_ | qabulin: it's busted too. this laptop has been through hell. |
| 20:22.30 | Shadowcat | it's a simple iptable rule that I'm not getting |
| 20:22.30 | blsecres | it's amazing how much you can recover from a reformmated partition dump, I've been able to reconstruct about two weeks of lost data |
| 20:22.31 | Shadowcat | :/ |
| 20:22.39 | Graveworm | FredZ: Which boot loader do you use? After some reading maybe it's only a wrong entry in the loader? |
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| 20:22.59 | alarm | hello, what packages will i need to run a php page on my computer ? except of apache ? |
| 20:23.10 | FredZ | grub, the machine is currently in rescue mode from the boot cd. |
| 20:23.11 | qabulin | mike: to get you started, you could set your lappy to load into GNOME at startup, and the change the X11 config files to reduce and move the screens center to where you need it. |
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| 20:23.39 | enouf | stuckey: i install extraneous stuff and have no issue with doing so - cause i know the bloat is in the DEs |
| 20:23.41 | scum | Hello there, does the ultrastar ng which ships with lenny have support for videos? |
| 20:23.49 | themill | orgthingy: normally a sign that you have a proxy between you and the mirror that is doing horrid things |
| 20:23.59 | enouf | stuckey: "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf" |
| 20:23.59 | enouf | Your paste URL is: http://pastebin.ca/raw/1342217 |
| 20:24.15 | mikedub_ | qabulin: oh, I guess i should say that I have no interest in running a desktop environment on this machine. |
| 20:24.20 | orgthingy | themill: what proxy :'( |
| 20:24.36 | enouf | stuckey: you better tweak it to your system if you try to use it |
| 20:24.47 | themill | orgthingy: ISP doing transparent proxying on you perhaps? |
| 20:24.50 | Graveworm | FredZ: So what does the menu.lst look like? Are the entries ok? Try to reinstall grub I would suggest. |
| 20:24.59 | orgthingy | themill: hmm, no i guess |
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| 20:25.08 | orgthingy | should i put "testing" in my apt list? |
| 20:25.17 | stuckey | enouf: if I try to use what? |
| 20:25.18 | qabulin | mikedub: the desktop will get you started so you can at least run a terminal there till you can change all config files to render only a protion of your screen operational. |
| 20:25.20 | orgthingy | or unstable? i just dont want super-old stable packages :P |
| 20:25.38 | FredZ | Graveworm: Trying to recover from an error 13: issue. I did reinstall grub but I get the same thing. |
| 20:25.43 | pobega | wow. nfs-common fails to install on my Debian box: http://pastebin.com/m63805695 |
| 20:26.02 | mikedub_ | qabulin: right.. but I still have to make it through the install process |
| 20:26.14 | mikedub_ | lots of menuconfigs |
| 20:26.25 | themill | dpkg, upgradesmite orgthingy |
| 20:26.25 | dpkg | themill: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 20:26.30 | themill | :( |
| 20:26.42 | jpinx | why does the hostname of my laptop not show up in the DHCP table in my wireless router? |
| 20:26.54 | mikedub_ | maybe i'll have to suck it up and install the old school way, using a bunch of line feeds. |
| 20:26.55 | themill | dpkg, versionsmite orgthingy |
| 20:26.56 | dpkg | upgrades orgthingy to uber-l33t version 42.1 without noticing the critical bug that this introduces. (Ask me about <version chasing>) |
| 20:27.04 | FredZ | Graveworm: The error is "error 13: Invalid or unsupported executable format" did some googling and it seems I may have a corrupt kernel |
| 20:27.04 | xingu | pobega: try clearing the contents of /var/lib/nfs/sm{,bak}/ |
| 20:27.06 | jpinx | one laptop does show it's hostname, the other doesn't |
| 20:27.10 | mikedub_ | qabulin: I like your idea though |
| 20:27.35 | themill | jpinx: you need send host-name "hostname"; in your /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf |
| 20:27.35 | xingu | pobega: err ... ,.bak} |
| 20:27.53 | FredZ | Graveworm: As I only have the 1 kernel installed I am wanting to know how to get another kernel on the system so I can reconfogure it to boot. |
| 20:27.55 | pobega | xingu: they're empty |
| 20:28.00 | Graveworm | Hmm.. Is the linux image on a seperate partition? I don't know what the installation CD is like. Is it some kind of live cd? If so maybe it is possible to install the image again. I mean apt-get or dpkg-reinstall |
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| 20:28.08 | xingu | pobega: well that's me out of ideas ;) what's in syslog? |
| 20:28.08 | jpinx | themill: thanks |
| 20:28.21 | stuckey | Does anyone know how to get fullscreen video playback in mplayer using the "nv" driver? |
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| 20:28.46 | blsecres | Debian does have an automated/unattended install, never used it, but it should run on it's own with little to no attendance |
| 20:28.46 | pobega | xingu: which syslog are you talking about? /var/log/syslog? |
| 20:28.58 | Jpdota | Has anyone had luck running apt-cacher on a non-debian system? |
| 20:29.02 | xingu | pobega: exactly, if statd is whining it might well log something there. |
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| 20:29.26 | pobega | xingu: mine's empty |
| 20:29.27 | BirdInTux | does the linux community offer any sort of classes I thought i had seen something about that but i dont remember where |
| 20:30.04 | Graveworm | FredZ: Or do you have a similar machine? Then you could fetch the kernel from there. Just to have a working environment where you can reinstall the proper image. |
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| 20:30.19 | pobega | xingu: it may be ebcause I have syslog-ng installed though...I'll try removing it |
| 20:30.26 | FredZ | Graveworm: I am just going to test dpkg-reinstall or dpkg-reconfigure |
| 20:30.38 | xingu | pobega: maybe; what do you have in /etc/default/nfs-common: STATDOPTS= ? |
| 20:30.45 | pobega | Something is really really messed up here |
| 20:31.02 | jpinx | themill: what do I have to restart to make that effective? |
| 20:31.34 | pobega | xingu: it's blank |
| 20:31.45 | themill | jpinx: the next dhcp request should make it active -- tearing down the network connection and then making it again will work. |
| 20:31.58 | BirdInTux | nothing for classes eh? |
| 20:31.59 | jpinx | themill: ok - thanks |
| 20:32.08 | pobega | xingu: Stopping system logging: syslog-ng failed! |
| 20:32.08 | pobega | invoke-rc.d: initscript syslog-ng, action "stop" failed. |
| 20:32.08 | pobega | Purging configuration files for syslog-ng ... |
| 20:32.47 | xingu | pobega: in that case try just running: /sbin/rpc.statd -Fd |
| 20:32.59 | themill | BirdInTux: there's plenty of teach-yourself material out there. "/msg dpkg grounding" and follow some of the links there. |
| 20:33.19 | BirdInTux | oh ok I thought i had seen or heard about some class thats offered |
| 20:33.31 | pobega | xingu: Cannot register service: RPC: Unable to receive; errno = Connection refused |
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| 20:33.37 | jpinx | themill: that worked - many thanks - now to bar the free-loaders ;) |
| 20:33.38 | josen | join #debian.de |
| 20:33.43 | xingu | pobega: ok so the problem is that portmapper isn't running |
| 20:33.56 | themill | jpinx: heh nice one |
| 20:34.01 | xingu | pobega: invoke-rc.d portmap start |
| 20:34.15 | BirdInTux | ok one last question before i head over where can i see a list of drivers i have for my hardware |
| 20:34.16 | xingu | pobega: then verify per rpcinfo -p |
| 20:34.47 | pobega | xingu: wow...genius. I guess I need to learn more about this stuff, thanks. |
| 20:35.15 | xingu | pobega: I'm not so old that I don't have vivid memories myself... :) |
| 20:35.33 | pobega | xingu: :] I know my way in and out of Debian (generally), I've just never used NFS before. |
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| 20:36.20 | xingu | pobega: if you haven't done so yet make the move to nfsv4 |
| 20:36.36 | pobega | xingu: I'm just installing whatever's in the Debian packages :] |
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| 20:36.46 | xingu | pobega: if it's monoculture debian it should be as simple as changing "nfs" mount type to "nfs4" |
| 20:36.52 | xingu | mount fs type that is |
| 20:37.01 | pobega | okay, I'll try that. |
| 20:37.10 | josen | Dont run for nfsv4 without knowing if there are any advantages for you. |
| 20:37.16 | xingu | pobega: for extra points shift to nfs4 on tcp - "proto=tcp" in mount opts. |
| 20:37.18 | esaym | cads: Here is the bug report: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=516207 |
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| 20:37.26 | xingu | josen: there's advantages for everyone in nfs4 ;) |
| 20:37.49 | josen | Loss of convenience ? |
| 20:38.10 | xingu | josen: wot? |
| 20:39.12 | josen | I'd say it's more complicated than nfs -> nfsv4 in a herterogenous environment. |
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| 20:39.28 | xingu | josen: nfs3 and below have broken locking and no attribute cache, case closed; the latter speeds up nearly every real world workload and the former is an accident waiting to happen |
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| 20:39.44 | josen | I know the specs. |
| 20:39.57 | josen | But my client platform is simply not there. |
| 20:40.08 | xingu | josen: you'd be right in that assessment, but things that don't do nfs4 these days also tend to be end of support at a hardware level let alone OS |
| 20:40.21 | josen | Mh, how about OS X then? |
| 20:40.30 | xingu | I think even osx does it these days |
| 20:40.38 | josen | It does, but AFAIK its alpha. |
| 20:41.24 | josen | Yup, manpage still reads "The current NFSv4 functionality is "alpha quality" software. A lot of |
| 20:41.24 | josen | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:41.30 | qabulin | g2g |
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| 20:41.33 | qabulin | cya! |
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| 20:42.18 | xingu | josen: cifs outperforms nfs3 on a fair few real-world workloads fyi |
| 20:42.29 | dee25 | i have debian lxde how u upgrade to debian 5.0 kde |
| 20:42.39 | pobega | xingu: thanks, I ended up getting everything working :] |
| 20:43.00 | josen | Mh, you're wrong xingu. Tested every protocol on Gigabit here. |
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| 20:43.13 | josen | Beste results with FTP and NFS. |
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| 20:43.32 | xingu | josen: depends on workload; the lack of attribute cache is punishing with nfs's coherency model. |
| 20:43.46 | josen | Samba (3, Version that ships with Debian) with and without Socket Tuning, selective Acks.... etc. simply sucks. |
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| 20:44.09 | xingu | josen: cifs, or smb? |
| 20:44.20 | josen | Testes Debian etch Standard. |
| 20:44.23 | Gozar | Hi. I have upgraded from etch to lenny, now the /dev/dsp devices is'ent beeing created. I have tryed to run alsaconfig. (sound is working but I need the /dev/dsp devices to be able to record sound in mythtv) |
| 20:44.27 | josen | Is there a difference? |
| 20:44.35 | xingu | josen: it's capable of either; yes, smb is udp. |
| 20:44.44 | josen | So whats the etch default? |
| 20:45.08 | xingu | josen: depends on what you ask it to do; samba serves both concurrently - cifs is tcp/445 proto. |
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| 20:45.21 | xingu | josen: client is -t cifs or -t smb |
| 20:45.30 | josen | I'd say thats what was used. Client was (you guess) OS X. |
| 20:45.47 | dee25 | how u upgrade from debian lxde |
| 20:45.52 | dee25 | to debian 5.0 kds |
| 20:46.09 | josen | Anyway, my experience says samba sucks with high-bandwidth sequential access applications. |
| 20:46.17 | josen | Never got it past 30mb/sec. |
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| 20:47.22 | josen | Where as NFSv3 is running at 80-100 mb/sec sequential access. |
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| 20:47.29 | xingu | josen: biggest problem with cifs is the effective ~128k or thereaboutish window size limit; you could do the math and impute the effective throughput ceiling at a given latency, and if you worked for say 64k window size you'd be not far wrong. |
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| 20:47.56 | xingu | josen: if you're not meeting what the raw math says - you're probably using smb or have something offspec enough to upset it. |
| 20:47.56 | balazsbela | Hello |
| 20:48.01 | enouf | no |
| 20:48.22 | balazsbela | Hello |
| 20:48.25 | josen | pretty standard gear. softraid on dual-core. |
| 20:48.28 | enouf | no |
| 20:48.29 | xingu | josen: smb2 is another animal entirely but as you say that's samba4 lala-land experimentation for now |
| 20:48.30 | balazsbela | Can I find packages for 2.6.28 kernel ? |
| 20:48.56 | josen | No way to get unstable / dev releases on my servers. Tried in my "youth", failed miserably. |
| 20:48.57 | enouf | depends |
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| 20:50.27 | hochron | can anyone tell me whats wrong? I open the package manager and get this error http://pastebin.com/d7dec6fb7 |
| 20:50.40 | xingu | josen: sure; but it's really as simple as just mounting from exactly your current samba3 test server as a cifs client (so fstype is "cifs" not smb or whatever the osx equiv is) |
| 20:51.02 | josen | Mh. I cant think it would perform better than nfsv3 |
| 20:51.09 | josen | But will try ;) |
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| 20:51.49 | josen | btw: any cool tcp tunining suggestions? :-P |
| 20:51.54 | josen | *tuning |
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| 20:52.42 | valdyn | hochron: run apt-get update |
| 20:52.45 | pobega | yeah...this is...pretty bad. I can't even play the video, it keeps slowing down every five seconds. Any way to improve the speed? |
| 20:52.58 | hochron | ok valdyn |
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| 20:53.05 | valdyn | !tell pobega -about ask |
| 20:53.07 | amphi | pobega: what output driver are you using? |
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| 20:53.39 | pobega | amphi: Sorry, I meant to xingu: and josen: that |
| 20:53.47 | enouf | balazsbela: |
| 20:53.51 | pobega | It's an NFS problem, not an mplayer problem |
| 20:53.59 | amphi | pobega: ah, ok |
| 20:54.10 | josen | What did you say to whom? |
| 20:54.13 | pobega | blah...maybe it's this stupid campus internet. |
| 20:54.18 | hochron | thank you valdyn |
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| 20:54.29 | enouf | either comment out or remove tje lines to etch-backports |
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| 20:55.01 | dustybin | so how is everyone coping with Lenny? |
| 20:55.08 | dustybin | has it changed your life? |
| 20:55.10 | valdyn | uh, etch backports are gone now already? |
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| 20:55.21 | enouf | balazsbela: in sources.list |
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| 20:55.27 | stew | valdyn: etch-backports aren't but sarge-backports just went away |
| 20:55.37 | blsecres | dustybin: some positive, some negative, pretty neutral overall |
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| 20:55.49 | valdyn | stew: yea, i know, referring to enouf |
| 20:55.58 | stew | valdyn: and i'm referring to you :) |
| 20:56.24 | pobega | I hate living on campus, they always give random IPs; is there any way to setup NFS so that I can have my Eee PC access my laptop via hostname? |
| 20:56.34 | valdyn | pobega: ipv6 |
| 20:56.48 | valdyn | pobega: or just dyndns.org or afraid.org |
| 20:57.00 | pobega | It's over LAN though, I shouldn't need that |
| 20:57.24 | KC | My nfs is set up to work over hostnames |
| 20:57.35 | blsecres | pobega: there are several tools out there that could possibly find it over arp given the right network configuration |
| 20:57.38 | enouf | stew: will etch-backports be supported as long as etch is? |
| 20:57.43 | xingu | josen: modern tcp autotunes, it's really just a case of eliminating application layer stupidities |
| 20:57.47 | KC | though I had to screw with the router to get it to accept that |
| 20:58.05 | xingu | josen: the best thing the application can do is just stuff nonblocking writes into the socket until it bursts |
| 20:58.27 | stew | enouf: the repository will remain, of course support in the form of people uploading packages in a timely fashion is, of course, up to the people that feel like uploading them |
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| 20:58.43 | josen | xingu: It doesn't good enough, at least tcp-bic and-reno in linux. I'm still hacking on some autotuning myself. |
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| 20:58.52 | xingu | josen: that's why I made the comment about cifs' perf ceiling (on which I'm still doing some back of envelope math here); it can't stuff more than about 64k into the socket at any one time, thats it's biggest transaction size. |
| 20:58.56 | FredZ | 3 hours and still can't work this out. If someone could just point me to where I can find information on how to copy the 686-smp kernel image from the live netinstall CD for etch that would be most helpful |
| 20:59.19 | josen | You cant queue there forever. |
| 20:59.19 | xingu | josen: ftp gets it right which is why it always wins; webdav is capable of being sensible too in that dimension |
| 20:59.28 | enouf | stew: ok .. but i can see all sorts of security issues with that sort of slack ... er ..mentality? |
| 20:59.36 | K`zan | Hi folks, The system starts netatalk on boot and I have no apple stuff at all, how does one get rid of that, just remove that from /etc/init.d ? TMIA |
| 20:59.50 | stew | enouf: note that this is the same for lenny-backports |
| 20:59.51 | xingu | josen: but webdav's model is abysmal in terms of io/s microbenchmarks; transaction setup/teardown takes too damn long for heavy but small io |
| 20:59.52 | josen | Application has to wait for ack from lower levels before putting more packets in the socket |
| 21:00.12 | enouf | stew: i only stress the point because a) it's "official" .. or .. is it not? |
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| 21:00.23 | stew | enouf: anyone that needs guaranteed security support for packages should not be using backports.org |
| 21:00.37 | enouf | hrmf |
| 21:00.43 | stew | enouf: backports is not official, though it could become official sometime in the not too distant future |
| 21:00.45 | josen | But gtg, movies calling :) maybe you can share some more performance insights later :) |
| 21:00.57 | stew | as backports.debian.org or some such |
| 21:01.19 | enouf | then what was the point of making it "official" ? ... or is that only etchnhalf? |
| 21:01.28 | enouf | oh |
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| 21:01.32 | stew | enouf: what do you mean by "was"? its not official |
| 21:01.35 | pobega | Okay, NFS is really unusable for streaming videos. Are there any BETTER methods? |
| 21:01.47 | stew | i use NFS |
| 21:01.49 | enouf | stew: maybe i mean etchnhalf |
| 21:01.52 | valdyn | pobega: nfs is suited perfectly fine for this |
| 21:01.53 | skibler | maybe its not NFS |
| 21:02.01 | skibler | maybe its the network NFS is running on |
| 21:02.08 | valdyn | pobega: and for workloads orders of magnitudes bigger |
| 21:02.22 | stew | enouf: those packages get security support just like any other package in main |
| 21:02.36 | stew | in main in stable |
| 21:02.40 | pobega | Hm. Maybe it's because my secondary laptop is connected via wifi? I don't know. |
| 21:02.41 | enouf | stew: if so - how long will THAT be supported - or .. it's really only a newere .24 kernel revisiion, no other backports really? |
| 21:03.18 | hochron | I love it when things work : ) |
| 21:03.26 | stew | enouf: etchnhalf packages are treated just like any other etch package, so they'll be supported until Feb,14 2010 or until squeeze release, whichever is sooner |
| 21:03.27 | enouf | stew: is etchnhalf "official? |
| 21:03.30 | stew | yes |
| 21:03.34 | valdyn | pobega: which bandwidth does that stream need? |
| 21:03.49 | stew | etchnhalf is just "we put some new versions in stable" |
| 21:03.54 | enouf | ok - so there's the distinction - thank you stew |
| 21:04.02 | Graveworm | FredZ: Are the files on the install CD are compressed in any way? |
| 21:04.06 | enouf | ok |
| 21:04.13 | pobega | valdyn: I'm not exactly sure. I don't know much about it, I just want to be able to watch videos in the other room (not at my desk) with my EeePC. They are 170MB videos. |
| 21:04.33 | valdyn | pobega: what are you streaming? |
| 21:04.39 | FredZ | I don't know, it is an install disk I downloaded from the debian site. |
| 21:04.44 | pobega | valdyn: episodes of shows |
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| 21:04.46 | r00t_ | hi |
| 21:04.57 | valdyn | pobega: raw video? the compressed data? |
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| 21:05.11 | r00t_ | checking for pthread_create in -lpthread... yes |
| 21:05.11 | r00t_ | ./configure: line 4000: syntax error near unexpected token `LIBS="$LIBS $LIBCURL |
| 21:05.13 | r00t_ | ./configure: line 4000: `LIBS="$LIBS $LIBCURL |
| 21:05.14 | r00t_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:05.20 | valdyn | pobega: mplayer shows you the bitrate |
| 21:05.25 | r00t_ | what do I need to install to make this work |
| 21:06.05 | pobega | valdyn: It's an ogm...I'm not really sure about the bitrate, I don't see it in mplayer's output |
| 21:06.14 | Graveworm | FredZ: So on the CD there is a kernel that is able to boot the system. Can you copy the bzImage (?) file from the CD (maybe it's located in /boot or somewhere)? |
| 21:06.15 | valdyn | pobega: look again |
| 21:06.27 | r00t_ | ./configure --prefix=/home/cfs |
| 21:06.27 | r00t_ | ./configure: line 1750: AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE: command not found |
| 21:06.27 | r00t_ | ./configure: line 1759: AC_PROG_LIBTOOL: command not found |
| 21:06.27 | r00t_ | checking for gcc... gcc |
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| 21:06.42 | valdyn | pobega: try playing with mplayer -cache 8192 for instance |
| 21:06.44 | r00t_ | so how to fix? |
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| 21:07.14 | pobega | valdyn: that works much better, actually; thanks :] |
| 21:07.27 | pobega | r00t_: paste somewhere else |
| 21:07.38 | valdyn | pobega: i think you are just suffering from latency due to mplayer not caching much as is the default |
| 21:07.46 | stew | enouf: probably some confusion comes from seeing etch-backports on pdo, which might make one think it is official |
| 21:08.01 | pobega | valdyn: that's probably it; I guess I'll specify it in my mplayer configuration. Thanks. |
| 21:08.05 | xingu | josen: with linux cifs, we have CIFSMaxBufSize - I've found values above 130048 pessimise the connection (you need to look with a packet debugger to see how the server is responding in terms of the reads and their continuations) |
| 21:08.15 | TimRiker | in lenny on preseed if there are raid volumes the preseed install hangs on "Remove existing software RAID partitions?" where etch did not hang there. how do I reply to that in a preseed file? |
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| 21:08.37 | xingu | josen: the default is 32k which is why many cifs benchmarks top-out at 25MB/s I suspect. |
| 21:09.00 | FredZ | Graveworm: This is what I don't know, I just through this server up as debian was the only linux platform that would install on this server. It is our production web server. I have no real knowledge of linux so I am strugling a lot. |
| 21:09.42 | xingu | pobega: is the nfs mount over tcp ? |
| 21:09.58 | pobega | xingu: Whatever the (debian) default is |
| 21:10.18 | Graveworm | FredZ: Uhh.. Hmm.. Ok. So is there a directory like /boot on the CD? |
| 21:10.33 | xingu | pobega: that's the first thing to check; default is udp transport, and linux is really, really good at exceeding the nyquist limit of the peer |
| 21:10.48 | valdyn | pobega: i actually set my mplayer cache to 8192 when my computer got issues playing dvd movies, years ago |
| 21:11.04 | valdyn | pobega: so might aswell be your eeepc being slow |
| 21:11.09 | xingu | pobega: mount as -o proto=tcp |
| 21:11.19 | pobega | valdyn: oh, that's a good point. The hardware is pretty dated, for a new machine. |
| 21:11.23 | xingu | pobega: or use the same in fstab's mount opts. |
| 21:11.39 | pobega | xingu: I won't be using it in my fstab, sadly :[ ip is bound to change |
| 21:11.42 | FredZ | Graveworm: dunno, how do I get to the cd, I did a ls /cdrom but there was nothing in there, that seemed odd to me. |
| 21:11.46 | xingu | pobega: nfs crapness almost universally comes down to linux flooding the client system (of whatever sort) off the face of the planet. |
| 21:11.58 | xingu | pobega: tcp resolves this per design. |
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| 21:12.31 | TimRiker | ah! device_remove_* in http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/example-preseed.txt explains it. |
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| 21:13.12 | pobega | I really should just bring my own router to school, it'd make these things so much faster/easier |
| 21:13.13 | Graveworm | FredZ: You said that the machine is in rescue mode. Did it boot from the harddisk or from the CD? |
| 21:13.47 | FredZ | Graveworm: CD as it fails to boot from the HDD |
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| 21:14.29 | FredZ | Graveworm: I can ls all the irginal files on the HDD |
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| 21:15.12 | pleed_ | Hi |
| 21:15.32 | pleed_ | is there someone using AIDE with rootprefix on debian? i ve got problems when setting it |
| 21:15.34 | Graveworm | FredZ: Oh.. I thought you are chrooted on the CD... Ok. So if you do a "ls /" you see your HDD? |
| 21:15.55 | HSNews | people, which name of "GNU Compiler"? |
| 21:15.58 | FredZ | Graveworm: correct |
| 21:16.13 | HSNews | when I run bash script it says me: install GNU compiler |
| 21:16.33 | Graveworm | FredZ: What does "fdisk -l" show? If it shows your CD-Rom device than you should be able to mount it somwhere. |
| 21:16.49 | valdyn | !b-e HSNews |
| 21:16.49 | dpkg | HSNews: Sounds like you need to aptitude install build-essential. |
| 21:16.50 | HSNews | Please install GNU make |
| 21:16.56 | HSNews | thanks! |
| 21:17.20 | FredZ | I will just check that command. Server is in another part of the building. Back in a minute. |
| 21:18.04 | HSNews | and one little question: How i can setup colored console? |
| 21:18.26 | HSNews | I saw in screenshots of users: highlighted commands, pathes in terminal |
| 21:18.49 | maligor | you should have ls colors enabled by default |
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| 21:20.01 | FredZ | Graveworm: "fdisk -l" returns "can't open /proc/partitions" now thats really helpful |
| 21:20.10 | vader-- | if i have request tracker 3.4 installed through aptitude how can i upgrade it to 3.6 or 3.8 using aptitude? |
| 21:20.23 | HSNews | I have installed build-essential, but it says: Please install the build and header files for your current Linux kernel. |
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| 21:20.48 | pipeline | HSNews: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` |
| 21:21.32 | amigrave | when I type xrandr I see only the resolutions of the internal screen of my laptop but I don't see my external screen which is plugged in. How can I do to use my external screen ? |
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| 21:22.28 | Samuel-NotAFK | How do I change the name of a user? |
| 21:22.28 | HSNews | pipeline: thanks! |
| 21:22.45 | petemc | Samuel-NotAFK: chfn |
| 21:23.35 | Graveworm | FredZ: Hmm... ok. It seems that fdisk tries to open /proc/ from the HDD but it can't open it becaus /proc is a virtual directory. It is normally filled with files during boot. But I thought that the rescue CD has a similar behavior. Like a knoppix CD or something. Hmm... |
| 21:24.08 | Graveworm | FredZ: Do you have some kind of another live CD? |
| 21:24.20 | valdyn | FredZ: mount -t proc proc /proc |
| 21:24.35 | KC | goddamint |
| 21:24.37 | Samuel-NotAFK | petemc: Thanks. |
| 21:24.40 | KC | wait |
| 21:24.41 | valdyn | FredZ: and its not filled during boot, its full as soon as its mounted |
| 21:24.46 | KC | still the wrong channel |
| 21:25.04 | Graveworm | valdyn: Whoops... |
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| 21:25.17 | FredZ | Graveworm: I think I have some earlier versions of deb, FC, ubuntu somewhere |
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| 21:26.20 | lymeca | I mirror Debian at my college and my mirror server only has ~75 GB left |
| 21:26.34 | lymeca | I want to add Squeeze though. I mirror i386 and amd64 binaries |
| 21:26.36 | lymeca | no sources |
| 21:26.39 | lymeca | will Squeeze fit? |
| 21:27.31 | Graveworm | FredZ: What does the suggestion of valdyn do? |
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| 21:28.29 | stuckey | Hello... I'm trying to install the nvidia driver but the installer says it can't find the kernel soruce trees. |
| 21:28.43 | FredZ | Graveworm: did the mount proc and now fdisk -l show only the HDD partitions, no cdrom |
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| 21:29.34 | lymeca | wait nevermind we're already mirroring it thanks to the configuration of our anonftpsync script |
| 21:29.35 | FredZ | Graveworm: so I guess I have to do a mount cdrom or similar |
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| 21:30.33 | Graveworm | FredZ: But if fdisk doesn't show the device then you shouldn't be able to mount it. |
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| 21:31.52 | Gozar | Hi. I have upgraded from etch to lenny, now the /dev/dsp devices is'ent beeing created. Any idea how to get them back? |
| 21:32.00 | Graveworm | FredZ: ....and there is no backup from the machine? |
| 21:32.09 | stuckey | !nvidia |
| 21:32.09 | dpkg | To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. If you've done it before, asking me about <nvidia pre-built> or <nvidia m-a> might work. Installing directly from nvidia.com (ie. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia (irc.freenode.net). |
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| 21:32.47 | stuckey | Hello |
| 21:32.56 | cheekee | hello |
| 21:32.58 | stuckey | Does anyone know how I can install a properly configured linux source tree... |
| 21:33.10 | HSNews | how to change user password |
| 21:33.10 | stuckey | I'm trying to install the nvidia driver but the nvidia installer says that it can't find the linux source. |
| 21:33.15 | FredZ | Graveworm: OK. time to nuke it. I only hope I can ftp all the website files to our ftp server as the client said the server has never been backed up. Now theres a familiar thing. |
| 21:33.19 | HSNews | passwd - I want to set simple password |
| 21:33.32 | zinx | stuckey: are you using the packages and module-assistant? |
| 21:33.32 | HSNews | but it says: password too simple |
| 21:33.35 | HSNews | try again.. |
| 21:33.40 | HSNews | but I want simple password |
| 21:33.42 | themill | stuckey: do it the debian way, or ask in #nvidia. |
| 21:33.53 | stuckey | themill: how do I do it the debian way? |
| 21:34.20 | cheekee | first time using Irssi so just experimenting. don't mind me for a few days unless I say help! |
| 21:34.21 | themill | stuckey: did you read what you just got dpkg to say? |
| 21:34.23 | Failasaur | stuckey: you might need build-essential |
| 21:34.41 | stuckey | themill: I can't open a browser now I'm in text only mode |
| 21:34.59 | icebrain | stuckey: you can, try links or elinks |
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| 21:35.11 | icebrain | stuckey: i meant lynx |
| 21:35.18 | themill | stuckey: that's not a problem... dpkg talked to you in text. |
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| 21:35.35 | stuckey | !nvidia |
| 21:35.36 | dpkg | To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. If you've done it before, asking me about <nvidia pre-built> or <nvidia m-a> might work. Installing directly from nvidia.com (ie. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia (irc.freenode.net). |
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| 21:36.48 | jackweb | Hello! I've got a LiveCD. I have copied from it file *.img that probably is copied to RAM while booting. How to 'unpack' that file? Is there such possiblity? |
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| 21:37.42 | jamon | jackweb: what are you trying to accomplish by mounting it? |
| 21:38.07 | blsecres | jackweb: it's probably a gzip cpio, try gzip -d < foo.img | cpio --list |
| 21:38.24 | Graveworm | FredZ: Did you try to load the image from the debian homepage? |
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| 21:38.41 | jackweb | Not in gzip format. |
| 21:39.07 | jamon | jackweb: file file.img |
| 21:39.08 | jackweb | I would like to read a file from /usr/bin/, but it's, as I think, in cdlinux.pl.img. |
| 21:39.34 | jackweb | cdlinux.pl.img: Squashfs filesystem, little endian, version 3.0, 212517669 bytes, 37445 inodes, blocksize: 65536 bytes, created: Sun Jun 24 22:00:23 2007 |
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| 21:41.14 | r00t_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:41.19 | r00t_ | why won't this compile? |
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| 21:42.16 | jamon | well jackweb now you have all the information you need to mount a squashfs file using a loopback device ;) |
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| 21:42.44 | jackweb | jamon: am I to use `mount`? |
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| 21:43.06 | blsecres | r00t_: you're missing a library somewhere |
| 21:43.09 | jamon | yep jackweb |
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| 21:43.53 | Nicador | Hello guys. Can you please tell me how do I disable the "standby / auto blank monitor if no activity" feature? I don't use a GUI. |
| 21:44.19 | jackweb | jamon: there's a problem. Mount doesn't know 'squashfs'... |
| 21:44.28 | blsecres | or actually, the app isn't building in one of its own libraries |
| 21:44.35 | Miouge | packages.debian.org gives me 500 http errors, why is that ? |
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| 21:47.14 | jackweb | jamon: (if the mount hasn't told me a lie) |
| 21:47.24 | xand | can someone suggest a program like lineakd that works outside X? |
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| 21:48.26 | celeritas | jackweb: I believe squashfs is still only available as a patch |
| 21:48.48 | HSNews | sorry, but... how to Move user to admin group? |
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| 21:48.59 | HSNews | root group I mean |
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| 21:49.12 | stuckey | themill: I used what dpkg said to install, but it says that package 'nvidia-glx-ia32' is not installed and no info is available... |
| 21:49.30 | jackweb | celeritas: I'm installing squashfs-tools. I hope it will help me. |
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| 21:49.41 | HSNews | When I try: sudo apt-get ... it says me: USER is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. |
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| 21:49.58 | celeritas | jackweb: no, it won't. it still takes a kernel patch |
| 21:50.05 | zleap | HSNews, you need to be part of that group |
| 21:50.10 | zleap | maybe su will work |
| 21:50.12 | celeritas | jackweb: the tools might let you extract it, though |
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| 21:50.36 | giacus | OT! hi, italian bloggers under attack! Please let the world to know what mr. berlusconi is doing.. thanks! |
| 21:50.37 | jackweb | celeritas: and what about squashfs-modules-*? |
| 21:50.49 | HSNews | su work, but What about user@debian: sudo apt-get... blah blah blah? :) |
| 21:51.17 | celeritas | jackweb: ah, that's right. that's got the kernel modules |
| 21:51.38 | hark | HSNews: /msg dpkg sudoers ; /msg dpkg visudo |
| 21:52.21 | jackweb | celeritas: yeah, I've done it - thanks. :) |
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| 21:52.59 | jackweb | (I've had to install squashfs-tools and squashfs-modules-`uname -r`, modprobe squashfs and then I could mount -o loop cdlinux.pl.img cdlinux/.) |
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| 21:53.24 | themill | stuckey: are you running on amd64 or i386? (uname -r) |
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| 21:53.28 | hark | stuckey: are you running amd64? |
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| 21:53.45 | stuckey | I'm trying to install the nvidia driver "the debian way". I expected it to work when I gave the command that dpkg says but it didn't. Instead I see an error in the terminal that says "nvidia-glx-ia32" can't be found. |
| 21:53.46 | mib__ | hey, I've got a problem: my system stalls after a random time because there are ide problems with the harddisk. can anyone a tool to check this? I'm not sure if the harddisk is damaged or something else |
| 21:53.49 | stuckey | hark: Yes |
| 21:53.52 | stuckey | themill: amd64. |
| 21:54.07 | themill | stuckey: do you have non-free in your sources.list? |
| 21:54.11 | stuckey | themill: Yes |
| 21:54.46 | stuckey | themill: it says: Package `nvidia-glx-ia32' is not installed and no info is available. |
| 21:54.53 | themill | stuckey: can you pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy" for me? |
| 21:55.21 | stuckey | themill: http://paste.debian.net/28782/ |
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| 21:56.42 | parsifal_ | Is there an official Adobe version of Flash that works with Iceweasel in lenny? |
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| 21:57.12 | themill | stuckey: so what's the output of "apt-cache policy nvidia-glx-ia32"? |
| 21:57.31 | cafuego | Guerin: Say i find myself in Wellington with a day and a half to spare and a hire car... what should I go see? |
| 21:57.35 | themill | stuckey: you have run "aptitude update" since adding non-free to your sources.list, haven't you? |
| 21:57.50 | abrotman | cafuego: sheep ? |
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| 21:57.59 | stuckey | themill: http://paste.debian.net/28783/ and Yes |
| 21:58.08 | themill | parsifal_: the package from dmm works fine, /msg dpkg dmm |
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| 21:58.19 | cafuego | abrotman: There's more sheep in australia than new zealand actually |
| 21:58.27 | abrotman | i was kidding! |
| 21:58.36 | abrotman | just don't tell liable |
| 21:58.36 | cafuego | lies!!@1 |
| 21:58.53 | parsifal_ | what is squeeze? 6? |
| 21:58.57 | parsifal_ | thanks themill |
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| 22:00.03 | parsifal_ | What are the free ones? I forget.. there's gnash and what else? |
| 22:00.08 | HSNews | why I can't install apt-get install msttcorefonts ? It says: E: Package msttcorefonts has no installation candidate |
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| 22:00.43 | themill | stuckey: right... so it knows about the package and can install it... so what does "aptitude install nvidia-kernel-2.6-amd64 nvidia-settings nvidia-glx-ia32" do? |
| 22:00.48 | hark | HSNews: enable contrib |
| 22:00.53 | themill | judd versions msttcorefonts |
| 22:00.53 | judd | themill: msttcorefonts -- etch/contrib: 1.8 sid/contrib: 2.6 lenny/contrib: 2.7 sid/contrib: 2.7 squeeze/contrib: 2.7 |
| 22:01.09 | niere | HSNews: "This package exists to facilitate upgrades to ttf-mscorefonts-installer. It can safely be removed from your system." |
| 22:02.03 | stuckey | themill: now it's downloading it... |
| 22:02.27 | stuckey | themill: now it says it's set up |
| 22:02.32 | parsifal_ | swfdec, that's it |
| 22:02.55 | themill | stuckey: right... keep on following the instructions then :) |
| 22:03.02 | HSNews | niere: you mean, be better to install ttf-mscorefonts-installer? |
| 22:03.14 | abrotman | parsifal_: swfdec |
| 22:03.20 | parsifal_ | abrotman, thanks :P |
| 22:03.20 | jackweb | squashfs is cool ;-) |
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| 22:03.48 | parsifal_ | jackweb, must be slow! |
| 22:04.30 | blsecres | does anyone know why hpijs requires hplip? I used to be able to install hpijs without hplip and it's requirements of dbus, cups, hal, snmp, etc |
| 22:04.36 | jackweb | parsifal_: why? |
| 22:05.23 | niere | HSNews: as it says (on my lenny install), it's just a transitional package - only for dependencies. if no package needs it, just use the real one |
| 22:05.28 | tech13 | php -r 'class a extends Exception{} exit();' will segfault. On a Debian Etch machine. PHP 5.2.0-8+etch13 Was able to repeat the error on a 2nd machine with the same version. I don't have a lenny machine handy quite yet. Is this bug fixed in lenny's php5? |
| 22:05.46 | parsifal_ | jackweb, because everything is zipped |
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| 22:05.56 | HSNews | niere: okay thanks you |
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| 22:06.41 | stuckey | themill: okay so now what do I do? I've followed everything dpkg said... |
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| 22:07.21 | doudou | Hi, friends, my question is : if you would try to build a database engine, a simple one, with a tree or i dont known, what doc would you read? |
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| 22:07.46 | celeritas | tech13: testing, got to install php... |
| 22:07.58 | doudou | or to what channel would you first go? |
| 22:08.09 | abrotman | doudou: #sql probably |
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| 22:08.15 | abrotman | maybe .. or ask them where to send you |
| 22:08.19 | rocko | "Warning: do not use Debian binaries/sources as they include many Debian specific bugs and still do not run correctly on Linux-2.6" |
| 22:08.28 | rocko | http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/cdrecord.html |
| 22:08.44 | doudou | abrotman, thanks you, i try |
| 22:09.02 | cafuego | tech13: It does not segfault on Lenny |
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| 22:09.12 | tech13 | cafuego, thank you. |
| 22:09.20 | cafuego | tech13: Nor does it segfault in php4 on etch ;-) |
| 22:09.33 | doudou | i know it is stupid to always come here to ask, but i got always good answers here |
| 22:09.42 | stuckey | Does anyone know how to install the nvidia driver? |
| 22:09.43 | abrotman | rocko: Schilling is a goof |
| 22:09.49 | stuckey | I did what dpkg said but it still doesn't work |
| 22:10.04 | blsecres | my wife has a decent book at home: Database Systems: Design, Implementation and Management |
| 22:10.14 | blsecres | doudou: my wife has a decent book at home: Database Systems: Design, Implementation and Management |
| 22:10.31 | abrotman | !wodim |
| 22:10.31 | dpkg | from memory, wodim is a DFSG compliant fork of <cdrecord>. See http://lwn.net/Articles/198171/ about the release notice. |
| 22:10.34 | abrotman | rocko: ^^ |
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| 22:10.37 | jackweb | !sarge |
| 22:10.38 | dpkg | Ten-HUT! Fall in! Sarge is the code name for Debian version 3.1, released on June 6th, 2005. Sarge security support ended on 2008-03-31. Sarge users should upgrade to Etch, ask me about <sarge->etch>. Now removed from the mirrors; ask me about <archive>. Get old Sarge ISO's here: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/3.1_r8/ |
| 22:10.54 | jackweb | dpkg++ |
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| 22:13.46 | jackweb | Does anybody know what language was dpkg written in? |
| 22:13.51 | rocko | what is mode 2? |
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| 22:13.57 | jpinx | themill: do you by any chance also know how to make the host name of a windows box show up on the routers DHCP Table? |
| 22:14.17 | doudou | blsecres, there are so many books like this one, but they dont explain how to implement a sql motor or a simple tree to store data, they explain you how to normalize your tables etc. |
| 22:14.17 | jackweb | (I meant dpkg-bot) |
| 22:14.27 | jackweb | mean* |
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| 22:14.42 | cafuego | jackweb: perl |
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| 22:15.50 | jackweb | ok, thanks |
| 22:15.57 | jackweb | good choice ;p |
| 22:16.10 | cafuego | well. it's not python, i'll give it that |
| 22:16.59 | themill | jpinx: nfc |
| 22:17.13 | jpinx | themill: np |
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| 22:17.36 | blsecres | doudou: oh, so you're looking for a book on database engines |
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| 22:17.54 | cafuego | heh |
| 22:17.56 | abrotman | this really isn't the channel for that |
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| 22:18.20 | linuxguy | what is the size of v5 (lenny) supposed to be? |
| 22:18.23 | cafuego | You'll want dbm, sqlite and the handful that mysql have. |
| 22:18.46 | abrotman | linuxguy: size when doing what? |
| 22:18.51 | linuxguy | >>meaning DVD 1??...4.4gb i think? |
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| 22:19.56 | cafuego | linuxguy: It's 5 DVDs - so *big* |
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| 22:20.14 | b1f30_w0rk | all: want to have codecs installed via synaptic for swfdec, and i get to this screen: http://omploader.org/vMTlzeg <-- i use my sudo password, but no good. |
| 22:20.16 | doudou | blsecres, yes, how to start? |
| 22:20.18 | linuxguy | abrotman, ive just downloaded that said file, firefox downloads says its 4.4gb.tried to burn it and its actually 8.15gb, thats from a UK server where i live |
| 22:20.25 | abrotman | doudou: you're in the wrong channel |
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| 22:20.44 | dee25 | i have debian 5.0 |
| 22:20.46 | abrotman | linuxguy: unless you're going to do an offline install, most people use the 150MB netinst |
| 22:20.51 | doudou | abrotman, i ask sql, this channel gave me better answers |
| 22:20.52 | dee25 | with kde 3.5 |
| 22:21.00 | dee25 | how to upgrade to 4.2 |
| 22:21.03 | abrotman | doudou: it's offtopic here, take it elsewhere |
| 22:21.18 | dee25 | kde 4.2 |
| 22:21.30 | doudou | abrotman i know what you can do, try /ignore doudou |
| 22:21.32 | abrotman | dee25: /msg dpkg kde4 |
| 22:21.39 | abrotman | doudou: no, you're offtopic, go somewhere else |
| 22:22.05 | celeritas | like #c |
| 22:22.27 | linuxguy | abrotman i cant do a netinstall.never done one before and i wont know how to, I was hoping i would get a kde 3.5.10 cd or could make it install that, so i got cd1 later hoping i could find a kde install |
| 22:22.31 | doudou | abrotman, i know, try to find in debian doc some help |
| 22:22.44 | dee25 | no such |
| 22:22.49 | dee25 | directory |
| 22:22.50 | abrotman | doudou: this has nothing to do with Debian support |
| 22:23.04 | abrotman | linuxguy: there is a KDE CD .. single CD |
| 22:23.12 | doudou | abrotman, should be a file a package in debian doc about such problem |
| 22:23.25 | doudou | abrotman, i am back in topic now? |
| 22:23.33 | abrotman | doudou: but there isn't one |
| 22:23.34 | linuxguy | abrotman, what number is it please, maybe i have gotten the wrong one? |
| 22:23.45 | abrotman | linuxguy: you want ISO or bittorrent? |
| 22:23.54 | abrotman | and which architecture? |
| 22:24.02 | doudou | abrotman, what is the simpliest database in debian? |
| 22:24.11 | celeritas | bdb |
| 22:24.14 | linuxguy | abrotman, an iso would be great as ive not but bittorent on this pc yet |
| 22:24.36 | abrotman | linuxguy: i386? amd64? |
| 22:24.44 | blsecres | doudou: berkley/sleepcat db or sqlite |
| 22:24.51 | blsecres | sleepycat |
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| 22:25.03 | doudou | there should be simplier |
| 22:25.19 | linuxguy | abrotman, i386 becuase of the flash plugin probs with 64 bit |
| 22:25.25 | doudou | you gave me already sql engines |
| 22:25.26 | chriszf | Hey, is it safe to install the 2.6.24 kernel from etch and a half in lenny? That seems like... it probably won't work. |
| 22:25.39 | abrotman | linuxguy: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.0/i386/iso-cd/debian-500-i386-kde-CD-1.iso |
| 22:25.59 | abrotman | chriszf: it might work, but it's not really supported. Why would you want to do that? |
| 22:26.00 | celeritas | doudou: bdb has nothing to do with SQL |
| 22:26.03 | blsecres | berkley db isn't RDBMS/SQL |
| 22:26.04 | linuxguy | abrotman, your being helpful, thanks a lot :) |
| 22:26.46 | chriszf | I just have this firewall thing which has a patch for the 2.6.24 kernel. |
| 22:26.53 | celeritas | chriszf: I installed 2.6.28 kernel, but mixing distribution packages is probably not a good idea |
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| 22:27.04 | pl4yer0ne | morn'n all |
| 22:27.14 | chriszf | So I should build from source then? |
| 22:27.22 | abrotman | that doesn't seem like a great plan either |
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| 22:27.49 | chriszf | Has something changed in recent years that building your own kernel is a bad idea? |
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| 22:28.03 | webmind | the size of the source? |
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| 22:28.05 | abrotman | chriszf: well, how are you going to handle security issues? |
| 22:28.05 | chriszf | Actually, what am I doing. I'm retarded. |
| 22:28.21 | chriszf | The patch is for the kernel. I need to grab the 2.6.24 sources anyway. |
| 22:28.25 | doudou | Package db4.3-doc ? |
| 22:28.28 | rizzo0917 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:28.32 | chriszf | abrotman: It's just for a test. |
| 22:28.44 | chriszf | It's a firewall that does deep packet inspection. |
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| 22:28.55 | abrotman | isn't that what openbsd is for? :) |
| 22:29.05 | chriszf | Hah. Is there something in openbsd that does that? |
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| 22:29.33 | blsecres | rizzo0917: that's basically a pointless print statement |
| 22:29.33 | webmind | hmmm, pf |
| 22:29.34 | celeritas | chriszf: add it but be careful not to wipe out the default kernel |
| 22:29.37 | webmind | long for the days where we can have pf in linux :) |
| 22:29.42 | abrotman | chriszf: ask #openbsd .. but i'm pretty sure that's what pf is for |
| 22:29.46 | rizzo0917 | blsecres: so thats not the reason why it doesn't boot |
| 22:29.48 | zleap | pf |
| 22:29.48 | chriszf | I'll take a look. |
| 22:30.03 | zleap | what is pf |
| 22:30.08 | abrotman | !pf |
| 22:30.08 | dpkg | methinks pf is pink floyd, or a BSD packet filter (not related to Pink Floyd), or http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/index.html |
| 22:30.11 | webmind | packet filter |
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| 22:30.26 | blsecres | rizzo0917: no, I see that every time I connect a USB memory device |
| 22:30.30 | webmind | firewalling how it should be, and is done in BSD :) |
| 22:30.33 | teratoma | did they ever port ipf to linux |
| 22:30.33 | doudou | seems that sleepcat is big, nothing very basic? abrotman you are only interested with offtopic questions? |
| 22:30.45 | webmind | teratoma, but ipf isn't pf |
| 22:30.54 | zleap | ok |
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| 22:31.06 | abrotman | doudou: you've been offtopic since you got here .. you want a book from amazon, or a university course |
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| 22:31.23 | chriszf | celeritas: of course. |
| 22:31.32 | rizzo0917 | blsecres: we'll maybe you can help anyway- I'm pretty new to debian, i came from ubuntu, and i'm trying to update my kernel , i can't seem to find a straight forward way, other then complie one from source |
| 22:31.42 | chriszf | But really, is it that dangerous to compile your own kernel nowadays? I've been letting the stock kernel work for me. |
| 22:31.47 | abrotman | rizzo0917: which verison of debian? which kernel ? |
| 22:31.50 | chriszf | But I used to have to customize it all the time. |
| 22:31.55 | webmind | rizzo0917, aptitude :) |
| 22:32.08 | rizzo0917 | etch - 2.6.18-6-486 |
| 22:32.17 | rizzo0917 | my aptitude seems to have broken |
| 22:32.18 | blsecres | rizzo0917: that's what I do, get the source from kernel.org and use kernel-package to build a deb |
| 22:32.19 | abrotman | rizzo0917: firstly, you probably want to upgrade to lenny |
| 22:32.30 | abrotman | rizzo0917: secondly .. there is a .24 also available for etch |
| 22:32.46 | r00t_ | need help please PM me if you know solution: http://pastebin.com/m457310a7 |
| 22:32.48 | rizzo0917 | abrotman: i need .27 |
| 22:32.55 | abrotman | need for what? |
| 22:33.01 | doudou | abrotman, in soccer, what is the english name for the man who can play with hands, are you this player? the offtopic intopic player? |
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| 22:33.08 | rizzo0917 | abrotman: my specific wireless card |
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| 22:33.19 | abrotman | doudou: you've been silenced for 10 minutes for being offtopic |
| 22:33.28 | abrotman | rizzo0917: intel wifi? |
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| 22:33.33 | rizzo0917 | rtl8187b |
| 22:33.46 | sepult | goalkeeper |
| 22:33.54 | sepult | lol |
| 22:33.56 | rizzo0917 | they have a workaround for .24 but when i use it, at random my keyboard stops working |
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| 22:34.01 | abrotman | rizzo0917: you can either compile your own, or try one from the debian kernel build system |
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| 22:34.26 | rizzo0917 | abrotman: when i complie my own, it doesn't boot, i tryed the most recent , and i also tryed one at random, |
| 22:34.28 | jmd | How do I downgrade from lenny to etch? I can't afford to buy more memory. |
| 22:34.37 | abrotman | jmd: downgrade not supported |
| 22:34.41 | abrotman | how much RAM do you have? |
| 22:34.51 | jmd | 128MB |
| 22:34.55 | abrotman | that's enough |
| 22:35.32 | jmd | Well it runs, but it's ultra slow. Etch wasn't fast, but it was tolerable. |
| 22:35.40 | rizzo0917 | abrotman: any reason why lenny, I didn't got for lenny because etch is "stable" |
| 22:35.53 | abrotman | rizzo0917: lenny is now stable, released on the 15th |
| 22:35.59 | rizzo0917 | abrotman: o really |
| 22:36.06 | abrotman | rizzo0917: /topic |
| 22:36.13 | nkuttler | jmd: well, what applications are you running? |
| 22:36.15 | rizzo0917 | abrotman: ahh |
| 22:36.24 | rizzo0917 | abrotman: which kernel does it come with? |
| 22:36.27 | abrotman | .26 |
| 22:36.41 | jmd | nkuttler, Nothing special, just a normal gnome session. |
| 22:36.47 | themill | there's also a 2.6.26 on bpo for etch. |
| 22:36.54 | abrotman | he still needs a .27 though |
| 22:37.12 | nkuttler | jmd: ... get rid of gnome. me, i like fluxbox, but maybe fxce or lxde is for you |
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| 22:37.47 | rizzo0917 | abrotman: so besides building from source, because i can't seem to get that to work, what is the debian kernel build systme |
| 22:37.54 | rizzo0917 | abrotman: system* |
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| 22:38.21 | magyar_ | 26 sucks |
| 22:38.36 | dos000 | how does one fakely generate 1000 of tcp connections from different src ip addresses ? whats the best sw tool for this if there is one ? |
| 22:38.39 | abrotman | rizzo0917: let me try to find it |
| 22:38.51 | themill | !trunk kernel |
| 22:38.51 | dpkg | Visit http://wiki.debian.org/DebianKernel for information on installing the kernel team's latest experimental kernels. Also visit #debian-kernel on irc.debian.org for more information on these kernels. See http://wiki.debian.org/HowToRebuildAnOfficialDebianKernelPackage or ask me about <kernel package>. |
| 22:38.57 | rizzo0917 | abrotman: thanks bro |
| 22:38.57 | magyar_ | still in tears as lenny got released with 26 |
| 22:39.02 | abrotman | ah .. there you go |
| 22:39.19 | abrotman | http://kernel-archive.buildserver.net/debian-kernel .. is the actual URL i think |
| 22:39.46 | themill | magyar_: you should have provided more help to the kernel team stabilise the 2.6.27 or 2.6.28 kernels then. |
| 22:39.48 | BlackBeast | someone can help me? |
| 22:39.48 | icebrain | dos000: I would say nmap |
| 22:40.01 | abrotman | dos000: tcpreplay perhaps |
| 22:40.12 | abrotman | you're going to have to do some work on it though i'd guess |
| 22:40.25 | themill | BlackBeast: only if you ask a question |
| 22:40.34 | magyar_ | themill, i did, but got ignored, so as many more bugs |
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| 22:40.59 | dos000 | icebrain: abrotman i need something that is scriptable / programmable so i can put logic .. this is for performance testing |
| 22:41.09 | magyar_ | themill, the answer was, "See if it works with 28" |
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| 22:41.12 | BlackBeast | wll, i'm trying to install debian etch 4.0r3 but it doesn't works |
| 22:41.21 | abrotman | !info tcpreplay lenny |
| 22:41.30 | icebrain | dos000: nmap starts with only command line arguments |
| 22:41.35 | themill | abrotman: judd! |
| 22:41.42 | abrotman | i can't ever remember the syntax for that one :) |
| 22:41.44 | dpkg | tcpreplay: (Tool to replay saved tcpdump files at arbitrary speeds), section net, is optional. Version: 3.3.1-1 (lenny), Packaged size: 511 kB, Installed size: 1128 kB |
| 22:41.54 | BlackBeast | it says that can not instaqll anything from disk |
| 22:41.55 | themill | judd: info tcprelay --release lenny |
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| 22:42.00 | abrotman | dos000: so if you take a tcpdump .. change a pile of IPs .. |
| 22:42.03 | abrotman | OMG YOU KILLED JUDD |
| 22:42.07 | themill | win! |
| 22:42.12 | abrotman | dos000: you could play it back over and over for testing |
| 22:42.16 | blsecres | dos000: apt-cache search simulat | grep net |
| 22:42.17 | themill | judd: info tcprelay --release lenny |
| 22:42.26 | themill | so much fail.... |
| 22:42.57 | cafuego | stew runs it, what did you expect? |
| 22:43.06 | dos000 | abrotman: the test is very advanced i have to record the replies if the replies were good or bad |
| 22:43.27 | dos000 | abrotman: also i am trying to avoid low level tcp handling |
| 22:43.54 | cafuego | dos000: There's a packet generator module in the kernel; there's netcat, there's `expect'. |
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| 22:44.07 | abrotman | dos000: see what blsecres told you .. look through the results |
| 22:44.14 | dos000 | so when i stablish connection .. the stack should take of the low level tcp sync/ask |
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| 22:45.02 | rizzo0917 | one more thank my apt is broken, and i can't seem to fix it. every packages says Package xchm is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 22:45.02 | rizzo0917 | This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or |
| 22:45.03 | rizzo0917 | is only available from another source |
| 22:45.09 | rizzo0917 | sorry about the flood |
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| 22:45.34 | abrotman | judd: versions xchm |
| 22:45.34 | judd | abrotman: xchm -- etch: 2:1.9-3 lenny: 2:1.14-4 sid: 2:1.14-4 squeeze: 2:1.14-4 |
| 22:45.45 | abrotman | wonders why squeeze is at the end |
| 22:45.45 | themill | judd: info tcpreplay --release lenny |
| 22:45.46 | judd | themill: tcpreplay (net): is optional; Version: 3.3.1-1; Size: 511.6k; Installed: 1128k -- Tool to replay saved tcpdump files at arbitrary speeds |
| 22:45.50 | abrotman | rizzo0917: paste your sources.list in a pastebin |
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| 22:46.01 | themill | abrotman: alphabetical order, at a guess. |
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| 22:46.09 | abrotman | themill: odd how it worked before :) |
| 22:46.31 | abrotman | or rather .. just worked |
| 22:46.40 | themill | except for exptl |
| 22:46.48 | abrotman | but that was at the end ? |
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| 22:47.08 | abrotman | judd: versions grub2 |
| 22:47.09 | judd | abrotman: grub2 -- lenny: 1.96+20080724-16 sid: 1.96+20080724-16 squeeze: 1.96+20080724-16 experimental: 1.96+20081201-1 |
| 22:47.12 | abrotman | see |
| 22:47.18 | themill | oh... hmm. |
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| 22:49.44 | rizzo0917 | http://rafb.net/p/gsjD1W25.html - my sources.list |
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| 22:50.02 | themill | abrotman: it will the order that pg is returning them. There's no SORT on the query, so it's probably the data is being imported into the db, but I don't have the importing code, only the plugin code... |
| 22:50.33 | abrotman | rizzo0917: try an aptitude update, and try to install it again |
| 22:50.42 | abrotman | themill: good guess! |
| 22:50.55 | rizzo0917 | abrotman: same |
| 22:51.05 | doudou | 9 |
| 22:51.22 | doudou | -disconnected from server- and ban 10 minutes |
| 22:51.25 | rizzo0917 | this has been going on for a while, its a pain because to install packages i goto debians packages website |
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| 22:51.45 | Twister | Hi everyone, I am trying to create a preseeded install of debian (using etch) and im running into some issues during the process. I have the preseed.cfg file slipstreamed into the initrd.gz and the installer is running it. I am just having a problem with a few of the configuration directives. What i am trying to make is a hands off install. My first problem is i get to the point where its wanting to partition disks. It gives 4 options, Guided - use e |
| 22:51.53 | themill | doudou: please try keeping on topic this time. |
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| 22:51.58 | abrotman | rizzo0917: do you get any errors when you aptitude update? |
| 22:52.01 | rizzo0917 | nope |
| 22:52.12 | abrotman | rizzo0917: apt-cache policy xchm .. put it in a pastebin |
| 22:52.29 | abrotman | wonders if he's pinning perhaps |
| 22:52.45 | doudou | themill, the way you handle people and how random people answer is not offtopic i hope |
| 22:52.55 | rizzo0917 | abrotman: xchm is just a random example, its all packages |
| 22:53.02 | abrotman | rizzo0917: that's fine, i still want to see it |
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| 22:53.16 | rizzo0917 | http://rafb.net/p/Ge9cJg51.html |
| 22:53.21 | rizzo0917 | abrotman: thanks again |
| 22:53.28 | doudou | i always use manual patitioning, and no more swap (i have 2Gb memory that a lot) |
| 22:53.30 | chriszf | Okay, I just have to say, you guys are awesome for pointing me in the right direction for my problem. |
| 22:53.34 | dee25 | i just uopgrading to kd4.2 in the command prompt |
| 22:53.37 | abrotman | rizzo0917: you have pinning going on .. you have etch pinned to -1 .. so you won't be able to install anything |
| 22:53.49 | rizzo0917 | abrotman: how did i manage that? |
| 22:53.50 | dee25 | says writing entended start information |
| 22:53.51 | dee25 | done |
| 22:53.53 | chriszf | I also have to say that the guys in #openbsd are assholes, but at least I've made progress. |
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| 22:54.03 | abrotman | rizzo0917: you have a /etc/apt/preferences file ? |
| 22:54.06 | dee25 | reading task desricption done |
| 22:54.15 | dee25 | now wat i restart my pc? |
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| 22:54.19 | abrotman | chriszf: sorry, should have warned you |
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| 22:54.28 | rizzo0917 | abrotman: ok,, i think i needed that to install some experiental software |
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| 22:54.36 | abrotman | yeah .. well that's what's doing it .. |
| 22:54.45 | rizzo0917 | abrotman: thank you sir |
| 22:54.48 | abrotman | so you probably want to rename that to somethign else and try again |
| 22:54.57 | stew | cafuego: what'd i do? |
| 22:55.05 | chriszf | abrotman: Thanks. |
| 22:55.47 | acu | I am trying to conect from one Debian Lenny AMD to another using krfb and krdc - however after authentication iy t gives me CONNECTION FAILURE the connection to the host was interrupted - it tells me on the prompt - Rect too large: 25193X24942 at (0, 0) - Why is that - can anyone tell me why it fails ? |
| 22:56.03 | bolt | What kind of numbers can you replace [real] with? Anything other than ints? |
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| 22:58.00 | cafuego | stew: there there, it'll all be ok |
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| 22:58.14 | stew | whew |
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| 23:01.40 | HSNews | "Your system had a kernel failure" wtf? |
| 23:01.50 | HSNews | I installed Debian 5 |
| 23:01.57 | HSNews | (vbox from winxp) |
| 23:02.07 | HSNews | and first message is that |
| 23:04.06 | cafuego | I guess the first question is: Does it also do that when you install on actual hardware? |
| 23:05.37 | nsadmin | HSNews: probalby your vbox said that message |
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| 23:05.59 | HSNews | ? it is Debian's popup |
| 23:06.06 | doudou | leave |
| 23:06.32 | tomm_ | Quick question if anyone knows the answer. |
| 23:06.40 | nsadmin | 42! |
| 23:06.48 | nsadmin | was I right? |
| 23:06.49 | tomm_ | I have a software raid currenlty with two working drives |
| 23:07.01 | karsten | tomm_: Definite maybe. |
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| 23:07.28 | tomm_ | one is a replacement for a failed drive still in the system and there is a fourth drive that has never been added into the mirror. |
| 23:07.37 | jmd | tomm_, That was a statement; not a question. |
| 23:07.49 | tomm_ | I would like to run badblocks on these two drives which are not in the mirror yet multipath has them both locked. |
| 23:07.52 | tomm_ | question is |
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| 23:08.14 | tomm_ | how can I get multipath to stop locking these two drives which are not even part of my raid mirror so I can run badblocks on them? |
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| 23:09.02 | tomm_ | total of four drives in the system |
| 23:09.47 | tomm_ | nsadmin: nope =) |
| 23:10.39 | tomm_ | jmd: would rather provide some info ahead of time before supplying the question. |
| 23:11.14 | jtimberman | I'm having the same issue as the original poster in this thread: http://is.gd/kacV - apt pinning isn't working for me either (yes, I did apt-get update), with priority -1, or 1001. |
| 23:11.57 | tomm_ | one of these drives was never even added to the software raid or managed in anyway it was a seagate drive that out of the box reports 870 bad blocks according to my daily logcheck log from smartmontools. |
| 23:12.07 | tomm_ | s/was/is |
| 23:14.00 | tomm_ | is there no way to tell multipath to remove it's lock from these two unused drives? I have tried googling on it but not turing anything usefull up as yet and the share/doc's info doesn't appear to have anthing releveant to this |
| 23:14.28 | doudou | i have been told offtopic, they cant appreciate my english to it exact value |
| 23:17.34 | _stack | how do I see which package provides an executable not present on my system? in this case is "gem" for example. |
| 23:17.50 | cafuego | _stack: apt-file |
| 23:18.02 | _stack | thanks |
| 23:18.07 | cafuego | _stack: Install apt-file, run apt-file update, then apt-file search |
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| 23:19.02 | _stack | ok thanksx2 cafuego |
| 23:19.15 | jtimberman | _stack: you want the rubygems package, fwiw. |
| 23:19.31 | cafuego | As to whether it's a good idea to install ruby gems externally, I can't comment. |
| 23:19.50 | cafuego | Some people I know who use ruby think it's an extrmely bad system. |
| 23:20.41 | _stack | bad in what terms? |
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| 23:27.23 | sin | ive been having tons of apt issues related to checksums |
| 23:27.54 | jtimberman | _stack: here's the official word on Ruby Gems from Debian: http://pkg-ruby-extras.alioth.debian.org/rubygems.html |
| 23:28.26 | jtimberman | That said, we generally install rubygems from source on debian/ubuntu systems and eschew the whole debian package for it. |
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| 23:29.35 | wimpies | Hi all, I got these packages for which dpkg shows desired state 'r' (remove) How can I set it back to 'i' (installed) ? |
| 23:29.36 | _stack | noticed that, thanks for informing |
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| 23:30.29 | jtimberman | apt pinning question - I'm having the same issue as the original poster in this thread: http://is.gd/kacV - apt pinning isn't working for me either (yes, I did apt-get update), with priority -1, or 1001. |
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| 23:34.32 | format_c | what was the name to bring two avi files together to one? tccat ? |
| 23:34.48 | DynV | I don't undestand this listing http://pastebin.com/d40035cde if I add up everything over 1Mb it says that I have over 70Mb free but adding what's under it is clearly under that, it's more like 10Mb ; can you help ? |
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| 23:38.38 | chriszf | So what's the biggest compelling reason to move from something like ubuntu hardy to lenny? |
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| 23:41.59 | nxmehta | i have a machine with 2 cpus, 2 cores each, so 4 effective cpus. i am running 4 processes that are each taking up 100% cpu. can someone tell me why my load is 6-7? maybe i don't understand what it is measuring, but shouldn't it be 4? |
| 23:41.59 | rdz | chriszf, why do you ask this question? if you know, that you want to switch, then switch |
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| 23:43.03 | chriszf | I don't know that I want to switch. I used to use debian way back. And my ubuntu box is getting all musty. I'm actually still on intrepid. |
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| 23:43.16 | chriszf | Just wondering if I should move back to debian or just go to hardy. |
| 23:43.20 | themill | dpkg: tell chriszf about why debian |
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| 23:43.37 | rdz | chriszf, i cannot get you a good reason. i am happily running both.. |
| 23:43.49 | newsense_ | how do most people protect their ssh servers from brute force attacks ? |
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| 23:43.56 | newsense_ | iptables rules ? |
| 23:43.58 | themill | newsense_: fail2ban |
| 23:44.01 | chriszf | rdz: That's a fair answer. |
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| 23:44.28 | jtimberman | +1 fail2ban, good tool. |
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| 23:44.38 | newsense_ | themill: do you know offhand how it works ? |
| 23:44.40 | jtimberman | also, tcpwrappers, lockdown sshd_config |
| 23:44.58 | jtimberman | http://www.fail2ban.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page |
| 23:44.59 | themill | dpkg: tell newsense_ about fail2ban |
| 23:45.09 | Supaplex | iptables -m recent and -m limit are my friends. |
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| 23:45.20 | shd | it's hard to use a browser at the moment since my xorg is bad; the ps2 keyboard is buggy after some recent upgrade |
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| 23:45.29 | themill | newsense_: disabling password auth is a good plan too |
| 23:45.36 | shd | has there been bug reports about keyboard in debian testing xorg lately? |
| 23:46.03 | newsense_ | thanks all |
| 23:46.28 | DeSian | how to remove directory content without the main directory? |
| 23:46.50 | vor | rm -r /* |
| 23:46.54 | rdz | DeSian, rm -r path/to/dir/* |
| 23:46.57 | themill | newsense_: the usual obfuscation measures can also help to some extent -- change ports, port knocking etc. |
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| 23:47.30 | themill | unless there are dotfiles present. |
| 23:47.45 | newsense_ | themill: yeah im using port forwarding already on my gateway/router |
| 23:47.47 | rdz | themill, how to deal with those? |
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| 23:48.14 | DeSian | rdz vor thanx, i do that before "permission denied", however the directory isn't created with root! |
| 23:48.36 | shd | DeSian: i wouldn't run what vor told you.. it destroys everything in the system when run as root |
| 23:48.41 | themill | rdz: with difficulty. either with some shell globbing jiggerypokery or with find. |
| 23:48.44 | newsense_ | themill: looked into port knocking as well, i think i'll try fail2ban and add port knocking later, i want to access this box in a kittke bit so i am in a hurry, thanks for the info |
| 23:49.09 | Samuel-NotAFK | vor: I got banned from here for life when I posted that command. |
| 23:49.10 | DeSian | shd: hmm, thanx |
| 23:49.11 | themill | newsense_: just running on a non-standard port is enough to make most script kiddies miss it. |
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| 23:50.06 | newsense_ | themill: ssh can use either a passphrase or a keyfile, is that correct ? |
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| 23:51.41 | themill | newsense_: password or key, yes. (a passphrase is normally what is used to protect a key) |
| 23:52.57 | newsense_ | themill: im going to read the manpage but before i dive in i was just curious if i would need to have a key file on the client ? |
| 23:53.00 | vor | DeSian Shd Samuel-NotAFK: yep sorry but looks like he understood me ok he online :-) |
| 23:53.01 | Samuel-NotAFK | WTF freaking Punkbuster kicked me again for no apparent reason |
| 23:54.00 | themill | newsense_: if you disable password logins, you won't be able to login from any machine that doesn't have the private key on it. |
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| 23:54.11 | TTT_Travis | how does LVM store data? Does it just write to one drive until it fills up then switches to the next drive? Ideally if my drive were to fail I would want to only lose data from a certain time frame (i.e. one drive) |
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| 23:54.57 | DeSian | Samuel-NotAFK: dont worry, i'm kicked in another channel, because i said use firefox instead Opera :) |
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| 23:55.59 | Samuel-NotAFK | DeSian: I'm banned from another channel because I said I hate Muslims and I've killed hundreds of them. |
| 23:56.12 | themill | points towards #debian-offtopic |
| 23:56.15 | DeSian | Samuel-NotAFK: hehehe |
| 23:56.55 | newsense_ | themill: thanks a lot, i am going to read the manpage now, i just wanted to know that what i wanted was possible before i got in too deep |
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| 23:57.34 | timebomb | does preseeding allow fetching from https? |
| 23:57.55 | Samuel-NotAFK | If I give a user no password, will someone be able to log into it? |
| 23:58.11 | Samuel-NotAFK | I want nobody to be able to log into a certain user account. |
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| 23:58.44 | nkuttler | Samuel-NotAFK: /bin/false as shell, don't allow him ssh, etc |
| 23:58.49 | timebomb | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:59.23 | Samuel-NotAFK | nkuttler: Thanks. |
| 23:59.25 | timebomb | or does preseeding only work with http: ? |
| 23:59.45 | timebomb | i can't test atm :/ already commited it to the deployment though |
