| 00:00.11 | \amethyst | sergiu: AFAIK debootstrap is the only way to do an install from the livecd, and debootstrap is intended for advanced users |
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| 00:00.24 | jelly-home | Tapout: they can't possibly all work with a /24 netmask. |
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| 00:01.01 | \amethyst | sergiu: you can get the 150MB netinst image and install from that |
| 00:01.11 | sergiu | hm.. |
| 00:01.40 | Tapout | jelly, they work, i dunno .. i've got ips assigned from softlayer, they do it thru vlans and stuff |
| 00:01.46 | sergiu | is there any easy method to install debian from livecd, like in other distro?:D |
| 00:01.51 | Tapout | i dunno what they do, i aint a network specialist (obviously) .. just know they work :) |
| 00:02.08 | sergiu | maybe i don't see the icon that isntall livecd.. |
| 00:02.54 | jelly-home | Tapout: pastebin your "ip a" output |
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| 00:03.44 | \amethyst | Tapout: seriously, though, file a bug against initscripts. There are ways of making the process faster when there are lots of aliases |
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| 00:04.16 | Tapout | jelly, waiting on the box .. another 10 minutes |
| 00:04.17 | jelly-home | not using aliases at all, for example. |
| 00:04.35 | jelly-home | Tapout: hah |
| 00:04.52 | Tapout | it's only on .. eth1:66 |
| 00:04.56 | Tapout | so maybe 15 more :( |
| 00:05.01 | sergiu | sorry, is there on debian Lenny LiveCD an installation utility launchable from a desktop icon that can install the system on a hard drive ? |
| 00:05.10 | jelly-home | Tapout: 150* ? |
| 00:05.23 | Tapout | \amethyst, i'll find where to post the bug and see if someone else has |
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| 00:05.43 | Tapout | i've read posts where people have the same issue through google :) |
| 00:05.48 | sergiu | if not, i probaly need to burn debian not live Cd |
| 00:05.48 | \amethyst | Tapout: reportbug initscripts I don't see a listed bug about the problem |
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| 00:06.03 | \amethyst | sergiu: AFAIK the live CD does not have an installer |
| 00:06.12 | sergiu | amethyst: thanks |
| 00:06.13 | \amethyst | sergiu: so you will need the netinst or CD 1 |
| 00:06.22 | abrotman | though he could run the liveCD and use debootstrap from there |
| 00:06.35 | keith4_ | liveCD for running it live... install CD for installing? that's crazy talk |
| 00:06.50 | jelly-home | which is not what people expect from a liveCD in 2006. or 2009. |
| 00:06.54 | jelly-home | keith4_: welcome to Debian! |
| 00:07.10 | asdfqwer | it's possible to format an extended partition as iso9660, right? |
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| 00:07.21 | \amethyst | Tapout: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=481028 might be relevant |
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| 00:07.28 | asdfqwer | or what would be the easiest way to run a live session without a disc? |
| 00:07.50 | \amethyst | Tapout: but that addresses mainly the problem of 'there's a lot of output', not 'it takes 20 minutes' |
| 00:07.58 | Tapout | \amethyst, ya that's the Anton Petrusevich |
| 00:07.59 | Tapout | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:08.04 | Tapout | 900 aliases.. at least i only have 256 |
| 00:08.23 | click170 | Can someone point me to docs on using ftpsync to create a mirror? I can't figure this out |
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| 00:08.31 | \amethyst | Tapout: maybe the maintainers don't understand exactly how long it takes |
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| 00:08.58 | sergiu | thnaks peoples |
| 00:08.59 | Tapout | \amethyst, should I put in a new bug report or add on? |
| 00:09.09 | \amethyst | Tapout: add to that one |
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| 00:11.34 | batcoder-7 | why when i write someting to my memory stick does it not write to it ? |
| 00:11.36 | click170 | Nobody here uses ftpsync to keep a mirror of the archive? |
| 00:11.41 | batcoder-7 | it says it does but it doesn't |
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| 00:14.13 | phix | hey |
| 00:15.29 | batcoder-7 | this is becoming a major issue |
| 00:16.11 | nolimitsoya | batcoder-7, did you sync the filesystem? |
| 00:16.36 | themill | and umount correctly |
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| 00:16.51 | Tapout | woot, it's on 164 ... almost there ;) |
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| 00:17.57 | Ace2017-_ | is it possible to install something like gentoo's portage alongside dpkg so that i can compile stuff from source? |
| 00:18.08 | Ace2017-_ | so that its *easier* to compile from source |
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| 00:18.33 | Ace2017-_ | i've been chasing deps for a week to get git xorg to compile perfectly |
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| 00:19.05 | syntax_enable | hello, does anyone know if you can set the desktop background/wallpaper in mwm (motif)? |
| 00:19.28 | jelly-home | Ace2017-_: have you asked debian-x people about building that particular source? |
| 00:20.13 | la_boheme | syntax_enable: not sure if you can even set a wallpaper, but you can set a solid background in .mwmrc |
| 00:20.23 | jelly-home | !xsf |
| 00:20.23 | dpkg | methinks xsf is an acronym for the debian x strike force. the wiki can be found at http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce |
| 00:21.11 | syntax_enable | la_boheme: yea, thats what I mean, I don't really care about the pictures, but this like no background (white and black alt) is giving me a headache. :) |
| 00:21.31 | Ace2017-_ | jelly-home: well my intention is to install xgl from git which needed a newer xorg but i didn't want to go to experimental because lots of packages would be installed so i'm compiling stuff to /opt its going well, i've gotten the whole of xorg and glitz, now cairo-glitz the xgl then finally compiz-fusion |
| 00:21.37 | themill | Ace2017-_: apt can install build-deps for you automagically too. |
| 00:21.40 | syntax_enable | la_boheme: do you know the code, I've been searching the web, but I can only find the commands to put in .Xdefaults for windows |
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| 00:21.48 | samplr | sorry... |
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| 00:22.07 | Ace2017-_ | themill: yea but it can't remove them |
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| 00:22.23 | jelly-home | syntax_enable: xsetroot can set a solid color; lots of image viewers have an option to load an image onto the root window |
| 00:22.25 | Ace2017-_ | then i get stuck with lots of useless -dev files and whatever else it wanted to install |
| 00:22.26 | themill | huh? |
| 00:22.47 | la_boheme | syntax_enable: unfortunately, no. is there a man mwmrc or something ? i've ditched all my old fvwm/mwm stuff |
| 00:22.55 | sylarr | Q: can I use the install disk to dd an ext3 partition in to an mdadm raid5 partition? |
| 00:23.15 | Ace2017-_ | themill: i don't know the build-dep command that removes all the stuff that got installed again after the build is complete, it sure would make life easier |
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| 00:23.35 | jelly-home | sylarr: very likely yes. |
| 00:23.48 | sylarr | OK |
| 00:23.57 | dihymo | is there a way to keep an ftp connection open by somehow querying the server? |
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| 00:24.11 | dihymo | does gFTP do that? |
| 00:24.24 | jelly-home | sylarr: the dest. block device will naturally have to be at least as big as the source |
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| 00:25.20 | themill | Ace2017-_: aptitude and dpkg keep logs. You can use script to record the session. There are so many ways to remove the packages. And as a bonus, it would actually work. |
| 00:25.23 | jelly-home | sylarr: resize2fs can be used later to expand the filesystem to fill the new partition size |
| 00:25.29 | sylarr | jelly-home, sure, but what I want to know before I burn the CD if I will be able to mount a raid ther |
| 00:25.51 | sylarr | e |
| 00:26.23 | jelly-home | sylarr: well. Since it has the ability to create a md raid device, I imagine it also can access an existing one. |
| 00:26.59 | jelly-home | sylarr: I'm not familiar with recent installers and the steps required to do that, though. |
| 00:27.39 | sylarr | I can get an old installer if it works |
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| 00:28.21 | la_boheme | Ace2017-_: you can use the "comm" command to get a difference list of before & after the big install. unwanted=$(LC_ALL=C comm -13 OLDLIST NEWLIST) ; dpkg -P --force-all $unwanted. you make the lists with dpkg --get-selections | awk '{print $1}' |
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| 00:28.42 | asdfqwer | anyone know how to boot an iso from grub? |
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| 00:29.26 | sylarr | Q2: If I want to convert the filesystem from ext3 to another FS type one that allows online snapshots for backup purposes like LVM? |
| 00:29.36 | Ace2017-_ | la_boheme: thanks |
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| 00:30.22 | luke-jr | Can I just change my apt sources.list from etch to lenny and apt-get upgrade? |
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| 00:30.42 | sylarr | that is done by copying with cp -a? |
| 00:31.31 | themill | luke-jr: no. /topic |
| 00:32.03 | sepult | how does one get the libc6 from another repository like testing or experimental or even sid when using apt/preferences file ? |
| 00:32.15 | luke-jr | ok⦠what if I accidentally did that? :/ |
| 00:32.27 | luke-jr | except instead of 'upgrade', I installed a package |
| 00:32.30 | sepult | cause i just only get libc6 2.7.18 that's all |
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| 00:33.50 | Ace2017-_ | la_boheme: comm is very useful, wish i had known about it earlier, makes compairing files a lot easier |
| 00:33.52 | themill | luke-jr: then you'd have a collection of packages from lenny... if you go off and read the upgrade procedure in the release notes, then you'll probably be ok, but you may have forced the uninstallation of some packages already. Check the aptitude or dpkg logs. |
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| 00:34.44 | luke-jr | themill: any way to downgrade the few thigns that did get upgraded? |
| 00:35.00 | themill | luke-jr: not easily. /msg dpkg downgrade |
| 00:35.18 | sepult | !downgrade |
| 00:35.18 | dpkg | methinks downgrade is not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later, and package maintainer scripts provide ways to upgrade to new config file formats but not ways to downgrade. You can always try to downgrade a package using dpkg -i <olderversion.deb>. Also see <partial downgrade>, or <sdn> |
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| 00:37.07 | la_boheme | Ace2017-_: remember to set LC_ALL=C, otherwise you (very often) get badness |
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| 00:40.08 | sepult | !down and up |
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| 00:40.54 | UndertakerX2 | is there a way to automaticlly download dependiences when trying to install a deb file? |
| 00:42.00 | Ace2017-_ | la_boheme: LC_ALL=C not in coreutils.info, Node: comm invocation, what does it do? |
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| 00:42.09 | sylarr | drbd + lvm? |
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| 00:43.35 | intx | is there a program better than apt-spy? |
| 00:44.30 | sepult | yes apt-fry |
| 00:44.34 | sepult | try apt-fry |
| 00:44.43 | sepult | fry the potatoes |
| 00:44.44 | sepult | lol |
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| 00:45.20 | intx | come on now |
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| 00:45.23 | intx | that's just plain mean. |
| 00:45.27 | sepult | ok ok |
| 00:45.31 | sepult | i don't know |
| 00:45.32 | intx | what did the potatoes ever do to you? |
| 00:45.35 | abrotman | intx: netselect-apt i believe |
| 00:45.47 | sepult | they aren't brown enough ? |
| 00:45.53 | sepult | lol |
| 00:46.44 | intx | thanks |
| 00:46.45 | luke-jr | themill: thanks |
| 00:46.47 | Ace2017-_ | intx: just pick one from here http://www.debian.org/mirror/list how fast is your connection? |
| 00:47.03 | intx | something like 8mbps |
| 00:47.32 | Ace2017-_ | and can you download at 8mbps? i'm supposed to be at 8mbps but usually get just over 2mbps |
| 00:48.18 | sepult | Ace2017-_: i'd reclaim that if i were you |
| 00:48.31 | abrotman | intx: there's also the apt bittrent stuff now also .. that might help you get it a bit faster? |
| 00:48.46 | intx | apt bittorrent? |
| 00:48.47 | apt | hmm... bittorrent is a great idea but needs a lot of work |
| 00:49.02 | abrotman | apt: shuddup |
| 00:49.03 | apt | Fine, I'll be quiet. |
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| 00:49.23 | abrotman | judd: info debtorrent --release lenny |
| 00:49.24 | judd | abrotman: debtorrent (net): is optional; Version: 0.1.9; Size: 222.0k; Installed: 1173k -- bittorrent proxy for downloading Debian packages |
| 00:49.54 | abrotman | no idea if it's actually faster .. but i doubt you'll find a mirror that will give you the full 8Mbps |
| 00:50.46 | intx | cool concept anyway |
| 00:50.50 | jelly-home | my stupid mirror miachine gives me only 2MB/s and there's a 100Mbps connection. |
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| 00:51.00 | intx | don't you think so? |
| 00:51.01 | abrotman | jelly-home: use apt-proxy ? |
| 00:51.24 | sepult | enable passive mode ? |
| 00:51.34 | jelly-home | on http? |
| 00:52.02 | sepult | no https |
| 00:53.22 | jelly-home | another .hr mirror is faster and manages to saturate the pipe between us and that isp. |
| 00:54.57 | plsd | abrotman, What?! I have 10Mb/s and always get full speed. |
| 00:56.04 | sepult | i just have ~700kb\s that's all |
| 00:56.15 | Ace2017-_ | sepult: no, i like it this way, anyway my isp only has an 8mbps unlimited usage package |
| 00:56.16 | jelly-home | plsd: your country has noncrappy internets |
| 00:56.48 | sepult | Ace2017-_: yes the more speed the more you pay for it |
| 00:57.09 | jelly-home | sepult: 90kB/s sounds slow. Small b bits, capital B bytes. |
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| 00:57.45 | sepult | ok ok 700kB/s then |
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| 00:58.12 | abrotman | stew: tomaw kline Joee| please |
| 00:58.14 | jelly-home | Joee|: that stuff'll get you klined. |
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| 00:58.30 | jelly-home | heh. |
| 00:58.35 | abrotman | thank you! |
| 00:58.45 | tomaw | np |
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| 00:59.26 | sepult | i installed thing from experimental i don't know how it installs them without the required libc though |
| 00:59.56 | sepult | luckily i have copy of the experimental branch libc, i'll install it by hand |
| 00:59.59 | sepult | bah |
| 01:00.10 | sepult | something got screwed badly i think |
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| 01:01.41 | sepult | does that /lib/i686/nonsegneg/ exist on your pc`s too ? |
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| 01:03.51 | jelly-home | dpkg: flt57 is <sepult> luckily i have copy of the experimental branch libc, i'll install it by hand |
| 01:03.51 | dpkg | jelly-home: okay |
| 01:03.57 | jelly-home | dpkg: flw57 is <sepult> luckily i have copy of the experimental branch libc, i'll install it by hand |
| 01:03.58 | dpkg | okay, jelly-home |
| 01:04.04 | jelly-home | dpkg: forget flt57 |
| 01:04.04 | dpkg | jelly-home: i forgot flt57 |
| 01:04.30 | sepult | what you forgot it ? |
| 01:04.33 | sepult | lol |
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| 01:06.51 | jelly-home | !flw |
| 01:06.51 | dpkg | somebody said flw32 was <stew> ooops. client just figured out that i mistakenly checked in code that was creating a file named /tmp/fuckyou every time you ran the program |
| 01:07.09 | sepult | !float |
| 01:07.23 | jelly-home | *cough*mistakenly*cough* |
| 01:08.41 | jelly-home | !famous last words |
| 01:08.42 | dpkg | [flw57] <sepult> luckily i have copy of the experimental branch libc, i'll install it by hand |
| 01:09.00 | jelly-home | I hope that explains it. |
| 01:09.19 | sepult | now you are clever |
| 01:09.22 | sepult | lol |
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| 01:14.01 | tqft | I failed at lenny amd64 install - choked and died on configuring libc6 - 2009-02-17 08:47:09 status unpacked libc6 2.7-18 |
| 01:14.03 | tqft | 2009-02-17 08:47:09 status half-configured libc6 2.7-18 |
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| 01:16.27 | sylarr | anyone know drbd, lvm, mdadm? |
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| 01:16.40 | sylarr | and in what order I should install them? |
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| 01:20.12 | enouf | tqft: sempron? |
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| 01:21.01 | tqft | no - lga 775, Pentium d 805, asus motherboard - more details? |
| 01:21.43 | enouf | sylarr: no idea what drbd is, but lvm and mdadm both use dm |
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| 01:22.18 | sylarr | enouf, is it first mdadm raid 5 and on top of that the lvm2? |
| 01:23.02 | sylarr | think yes since the other way around means raid on logical volume ?!? |
| 01:23.15 | enouf | depends, but yeah |
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| 01:23.43 | sylarr | lvm is a block device right? |
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| 01:23.57 | enouf | if raid5 keep /boot off of it |
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| 01:24.04 | rocko | when using cdrecord with the option tsize= do you have to put an s after the numbers ? |
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| 01:26.25 | enouf | no idea, but why do you even need to specify track size? |
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| 01:28.16 | lunaphyte | i'm manually installing a package via dpkg -i. how can i force it to go through configuration when installing even though there are missing dependencies? |
| 01:28.36 | rocko | enouf the sao option says that you need to specify track size |
| 01:28.54 | rocko | when using that option |
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| 01:30.13 | sylarr | which file system is the best now? |
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| 01:30.38 | enouf | rocko: don't specify |
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| 01:30.52 | enouf | rocko: it does it auto |
| 01:30.59 | rocko | why enouf |
| 01:31.14 | rocko | in man wodim it says it needs it |
| 01:31.21 | enouf | no |
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| 01:31.30 | rocko | plus k3b using it with sao enouf |
| 01:31.36 | rocko | so how can it be no ? |
| 01:31.58 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:32.22 | rocko | I see |
| 01:32.36 | rocko | k3b does not do it like that for me |
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| 01:32.43 | rocko | dao and sao are the same |
| 01:32.50 | rocko | just different name |
| 01:33.04 | rocko | it is just like burn proof and burn free |
| 01:33.15 | enouf | k3b? let me see the log of cmdline - i guarantee many -use-the-force-luke= options are set |
| 01:33.34 | rocko | /usr/bin/wodim -v gracetime=2 dev=/dev/scd0 speed=4 -dao driveropts=burnfree -eject -data -tsize=44092s - |
| 01:33.38 | enouf | those come from growisofs.c |
| 01:33.41 | rocko | that is what k3b used |
| 01:34.32 | enouf | burning dvd? |
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| 01:34.47 | enouf | 44k x 2k == ? |
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| 01:35.39 | JordiGH | How am I supposed to fix this? |
| 01:35.40 | JordiGH | apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName |
| 01:35.47 | rocko | no cd enouf |
| 01:36.08 | rocko | https://pastebin.ca/raw/1344550 enouf is what I got so far for the script |
| 01:36.43 | rocko | well you can remove the dummy command |
| 01:36.51 | sylarr | which file system is the best now, in terms of reliability and features like snapshots and backups rollbacks? |
| 01:36.52 | rocko | that was jus there to test it out |
| 01:36.53 | gryfie | are you really sure, that dao and asois the same ?!? |
| 01:37.02 | icenine | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:37.03 | gryfie | dao and sao |
| 01:37.03 | rocko | yes gryfie |
| 01:37.15 | enouf | asois? |
| 01:37.19 | rocko | it says so in wodim manpage gryfie |
| 01:37.41 | rocko | session at once is sometimes called disc at once |
| 01:37.41 | gryfie | can't you do with sao more sessions to one disc ? |
| 01:37.44 | gryfie | and with dao noit ? |
| 01:37.51 | enouf | dao and sao are the same, in general |
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| 01:38.17 | rocko | I think gryfie if you use multisession |
| 01:38.27 | rektide | when hal tries to install, i get this error: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 |
| 01:38.37 | gryfie | asois and noit was misstypes ;) To small keyboard on the eeepc |
| 01:38.38 | rektide | how can i get more information to figure out what is failing? |
| 01:38.44 | enouf | rocko: where's the file list? run that cmd on the cmdline |
| 01:39.05 | rocko | what command enouf ? |
| 01:39.19 | rocko | what file list ? enouf |
| 01:39.33 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:39.53 | enouf | wait, remove tzise= optio |
| 01:40.08 | rocko | why ? |
| 01:40.14 | rocko | is k3b wrong ? |
| 01:40.20 | enouf | speed=4 sucks ass for cd, use 24 or 32 |
| 01:40.34 | rocko | no enouf it is best to do it at 4 |
| 01:40.56 | enouf | rocko: k3b is a very highly configurable front end |
| 01:40.58 | rocko | it doesn't take that long any ways |
| 01:41.06 | enouf | no, not cds |
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| 01:41.08 | jelly-home | rocko: it's almost surely not, unless you have a 10yr old burner |
| 01:41.30 | rocko | I see |
| 01:41.54 | enouf | cds, atleast 8-12x, 24-32 is best usually - dvd? 4x, 2x |
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| 01:42.00 | rocko | well i have heard that cds will last longer if you burn at slower speeds |
| 01:42.14 | Arrowmaster | that also depends on the media |
| 01:42.18 | jelly-home | when did wodim acquire the possibility to build image on the fly? |
| 01:42.40 | rocko | don't know |
| 01:42.43 | enouf | genisoimage? |
| 01:43.02 | rocko | genisoimage prints out the size of the iso image |
| 01:43.08 | jelly-home | enouf: is a separate app. |
| 01:43.17 | rocko | yes it is |
| 01:43.18 | enouf | no kidding |
| 01:43.30 | jelly-home | so, when did wodim acquire the possibility to build image on the fly? |
| 01:43.48 | jelly-home | my scripts do mkisofs ... | cdrecord -data - |
| 01:43.52 | enouf | image == iso? |
| 01:44.02 | rocko | yes iso image |
| 01:44.02 | enouf | no |
| 01:44.08 | frostschutz | rocko: it depends on the burner / media... some burners don't even support slow speeds anymore (or suck at them). |
| 01:44.10 | enouf | genisoimage! |
| 01:44.10 | rocko | no what enouf |
| 01:44.23 | jelly-home | or, with the fork, genisoimage | wodim ;-) |
| 01:44.27 | rocko | I see frostschutz |
| 01:44.41 | rocko | my burner is able to do 4x frostschutz |
| 01:44.51 | rocko | 4x is the slowest it can do for cds |
| 01:45.25 | enouf | growisfs accepts genisomage options |
| 01:46.06 | frostschutz | if you're concerned about data safety, burn it 2-3 times ;) |
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| 01:47.04 | frostschutz | and I use mkisofs | bfr | growisofs |
| 01:48.00 | rocko | well i also did md5sum on a whole bunch of cds in the past of files and I put the md5sums with the files on the cds so maybe in some time now I can say if any of them failed |
| 01:48.37 | rocko | it is believed that cds/dvds last only 5 years |
| 01:48.48 | enouf | rocko: i'm not sure if wodim accepts growisofs options, but try adding -use-the-force-luke=wrvfy <-- verifies write |
| 01:48.49 | rocko | well from what i have heard |
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| 01:49.32 | rocko | why would i want to use growisofs options ? |
| 01:49.40 | frostschutz | yeah, I do that too... md5sum of all burned files in my cd / dvd catalogue (not on the cd itself, at least I haven't found a way to on the fly create md5sums for cd isos) |
| 01:49.41 | enouf | rocko: install dvd+rw-tools for growisofs |
| 01:50.40 | rocko | frostschutz do md5sum /dev/cdrom |
| 01:50.45 | frostschutz | rocko: I have some dvd media older than 5 years that still works... verbatim dlp, and stored in a 250 cd/dvd bag in a closet |
| 01:50.47 | enouf | rocko: wodim --help 2>/dev/null | less |
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| 01:51.06 | frostschutz | md5sum on the device doesn't tell you which file is bad |
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| 01:51.35 | rocko | yeah but it tells you if the cd is bad or not |
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| 01:51.46 | tank | hello |
| 01:51.48 | rocko | cd/dvd |
| 01:52.11 | frostschutz | if one of the files on the cds is bad that amounts to the same thing .) |
| 01:52.16 | enouf | rocko: sorry |
| 01:52.20 | enouf | rocko: $ wodim --help 2>&1>/dev/null | less |
| 01:52.20 | rocko | I see |
| 01:52.21 | tank | I just did a fresh install of Lenny (net install of etch, upgraded to Lenny) and installed ndiswrapper through Synaptic, but lsmod does not indicate it is installed. |
| 01:52.43 | frostschutz | ndiswrapper is a kernel module? |
| 01:53.11 | nsadmin | lsmod does not indicate that something is installed, but is installed AND inserted into the kernel |
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| 01:53.30 | frostschutz | sorry, confused it with nspluginwrapper which is ... something entirely different ;) |
| 01:53.33 | nsadmin | just because lsmod does not show a module does not mean it's not installed |
| 01:53.34 | rocko | lsmod lists modules that are running tank |
| 01:53.54 | tank | rocko: How would I get it running? |
| 01:54.14 | rocko | I don't think ndiswrapper is a module |
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| 01:54.46 | rocko | you have to install the module with it that is for your wifi card tank |
| 01:54.47 | plsd | how can i do --> ls > text.txt on a harddrive I can only reach via ftp? I want a list of all files in it. |
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| 01:55.13 | nsadmin | plsd: a coupla ways |
| 01:55.22 | rocko | why can't you reach it via ssh plsd ? |
| 01:55.29 | nsadmin | one, you could use the plain ftp client which might have a way to do that |
| 01:55.37 | plsd | nsadmin, I'll settle for the easiest :) |
| 01:55.46 | enouf | nsadmin: have you run depmod -a ? |
| 01:55.47 | tank | I already installed the wifi driver and it shows hardware present |
| 01:55.52 | nsadmin | another, you could run the same ftp client inside an emacs shell, and just do the ls |
| 01:56.04 | nsadmin | it will appear in the emacs buffer and you can then save it |
| 01:56.07 | enouf | nsadmin: out-of-tree build? |
| 01:56.33 | rocko | tank maybe you need to do "modprode nameofmodule" see if that works |
| 01:56.33 | plsd | rocko, it's a popcorn hour, I don't think it comes with ssh. It may be possible to add but I'd rather just use ftp |
| 01:56.41 | enouf | nsadmin: otherwise your System.map sucks ass |
| 01:56.42 | nsadmin | enouf: hi... hmm? |
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| 01:56.48 | obnauticus | Anyone here good with linux sound? |
| 01:56.50 | obnauticus | alsa/oss |
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| 01:57.03 | nsadmin | there's #alsa |
| 01:57.06 | obnauticus | err oh ok |
| 01:57.07 | nsadmin | there's #lau |
| 01:57.08 | rocko | what is the problem obnauticus |
| 01:57.14 | obnauticus | oh |
| 01:57.15 | obnauticus | well |
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| 01:57.20 | nsadmin | there's sicco |
| 01:57.22 | obnauticus | I have a radio hooked to my Line-IN |
| 01:57.27 | nsadmin | !sicco |
| 01:57.27 | tank | rocko: been trying that - nothing |
| 01:57.28 | dpkg | Please ask sicco questions, questions that are Specific, Informative, Concise, Complete, and On-topic. Ask me about <research> and <cooperation in asking for help>. |
| 01:57.37 | obnauticus | the speaker is hooked to line-in, and the mic in hooked to line-out |
| 01:57.40 | rocko | I see tank |
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| 01:57.48 | obnauticus | Asterisk, my PBX locks the device whenever it uses it to RX |
| 01:57.49 | rocko | did you try a restart tank |
| 01:57.56 | tank | yep |
| 01:57.57 | obnauticus | ? |
| 01:58.10 | nsadmin | you'll never get sound to the speakers that way :) |
| 01:58.11 | obnauticus | However, I want to be able to TX when the device is locked |
| 01:58.22 | plsd | nsadmin, thanks you're absolutely right, I looked it up now and apparently ls DOES work in ftp, you just have to type !ls to make it work. |
| 01:58.53 | nsadmin | !ls in an ftp client gives you the local ls listing |
| 01:59.16 | obnauticus | like mpg123-alsa is trying to play a soun file over the line-out when i am also listening on the radio interface and it won't let it happen |
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| 01:59.31 | enouf | tank: http://wiki.debian.org/NdisWrapper |
| 01:59.41 | obnauticus | the same thing goes when i play a sound file using mpg123-alsa and then i try to RX on it later with asterisk mpg123-alsa has locked the device and i cannot listen on it :( |
| 01:59.51 | tank | rocko: Thanks will look there. |
| 02:00.00 | nsadmin | plsd: looking it up is good thing :) |
| 02:00.17 | obnauticus | rocko, any idea |
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| 02:00.21 | mns | What's a good way to compare to directories ? |
| 02:00.30 | mns | s/to/two/ |
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| 02:01.31 | nsadmin | mns get the listing of each dir into a file and run diff on the two? |
| 02:01.47 | plsd | nsadmin, oh yeah it doesn't list the files in ftp it lists the files in my home directory :( |
| 02:01.52 | abrotman | mns: cmp |
| 02:02.03 | Tramp | mns: diff [-r] dir1 dir2 |
| 02:02.28 | abrotman | erm. . no, diff, cmp doesn't do it |
| 02:02.32 | enouf | obnauticus: no - but maybe try mplayer -dumpstrem -dumpfile |
| 02:02.38 | plsd | and without ! I get an empty file |
| 02:02.50 | nsadmin | mns: what is it you want to compare about the two dirs? |
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| 02:03.25 | enouf | mns: diff |
| 02:03.27 | Tramp | mns: also check -q (and man diff in general makes for an interesting reading) |
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| 02:04.19 | nsadmin | enouf: I hadn't run depmod lately... I assumed booting did that |
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| 02:04.47 | gparent | Is there any particular reason why there's a 5 second delay after pressing enter to the login prompt when SSHing into my box? |
| 02:04.53 | gparent | This is on a LAN with a brand new install |
| 02:05.00 | gparent | Once I type enter after entering my password there is no such delay |
| 02:05.06 | enouf | <enouf> nsadmin: out-of-tree build? |
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| 02:05.22 | enouf | awe crap |
| 02:06.01 | nsadmin | this minute of trying to pull the teeth of mns expecting more information has been brought to you by the letters 9 and 4 |
| 02:06.03 | enouf | oh wair i thooouft bad tab completion -- noo |
| 02:06.37 | enouf | <enouf> nsadmin: out-of-tree build? |
| 02:06.40 | enouf | <enouf> nsadmin: out-of-tree build? |
| 02:06.43 | nsadmin | wha choo smokin about, willis? |
| 02:06.55 | abrotman | gparent: possibly rdns |
| 02:07.14 | nsadmin | oh, I want to be able to do that... but I hadn't mentioned it today |
| 02:07.23 | enouf | farts in nsadmin 's general direction |
| 02:07.32 | enouf | slaps nsadmin around with a huge petrified coelacanth |
| 02:07.38 | gparent | abrotman- I'll check that out, thanks |
| 02:07.49 | enouf | takes a dump on nsadmin 's front lawn |
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| 02:08.26 | nsadmin | I built a 2.6.28 recently and forgot what to set CC to to build some more modules for it |
| 02:08.48 | nsadmin | is still etching |
| 02:08.52 | enouf | hahaha |
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| 02:09.53 | squisher | hey guys, xine is not deactivating my screensaver right now. It seems lenny has a never version than sid, is that possible? |
| 02:10.00 | clorron | what is 'testing' called now? |
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| 02:10.27 | Ace2017-_ | clorron: squeezy |
| 02:10.37 | Iradieh | Could someone please assist me, I have tried both sid, lenny, etch and now I am on current testing |
| 02:10.43 | Iradieh | and each time iceweasel won't start |
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| 02:12.00 | Iradieh | I get Failed to execute default Web Browser. Input/Output error |
| 02:12.19 | nsadmin | just noticed the last upgrade to latest etch got a new devscripts, libc, dpkg-dev |
| 02:12.20 | clorron | there is no dpkg entry for squeezy. |
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| 02:12.52 | nsadmin | squeezypoop? |
| 02:12.55 | abrotman | it's called 'squeeze' |
| 02:13.29 | sepult | or squeeze me please can i ask a question ? |
| 02:13.33 | sepult | lol |
| 02:13.47 | clorron | a three-eyed space alien. |
| 02:14.00 | nkuttler | Iradieh: start it from a terminal and past the full command and error |
| 02:14.11 | nkuttler | Iradieh: paste |
| 02:14.22 | clorron | what is 'unstable' called now? |
| 02:14.29 | abrotman | it's always sid |
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| 02:14.31 | nsadmin | still sid |
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| 02:14.48 | JordiGH | Hey, at least it's a better name than "woody". |
| 02:14.58 | abrotman | hardly |
| 02:14.59 | clorron | is it the short-form for 'stupid'? |
| 02:15.04 | JordiGH | hardly? |
| 02:15.05 | abrotman | uh .. no |
| 02:15.05 | nsadmin | we'll combine them |
| 02:15.07 | JordiGH | Is that a pun? |
| 02:15.08 | newsense | potato is still my favorite name ;P |
| 02:15.21 | Iradieh | nkuttler: from terminal I get no error |
| 02:15.21 | Iradieh | nkuttler: seivan@subby:~$ iceweasel |
| 02:15.22 | Iradieh | seivan@subby:~$ |
| 02:15.26 | nsadmin | squeeze potato |
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| 02:15.41 | abrotman | Iradieh: mv .mozilla .mozilla.old .. try again |
| 02:16.06 | mns | nsadmin: I copied data over from one disk to another, and want to make sure that I got it all and that nothing is missing. The laptop from which I copied things over goes back tomorrow. |
| 02:16.10 | clorron | when will there be a solution to bug #514846? |
| 02:16.12 | nsadmin | clorron unstable is also called unstable |
| 02:16.34 | nkuttler | Iradieh: if you're clicking on anything to launch it check whatever that gui thing tries to launch |
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| 02:16.49 | nkuttler | clorron: sooner if you submit a patch |
| 02:17.06 | abrotman | it's already been fixed |
| 02:17.08 | Iradieh | nkuttler: how do I do that |
| 02:17.20 | nkuttler | Iradieh: what do i know... right clicking comes to mind |
| 02:17.42 | nsadmin | mns: so are filenames enough? or do you want to check content too? |
| 02:17.52 | clorron | nkuttler: if i know the solution, i won't be asking for it. |
| 02:17.55 | Iradieh | nkuttler: I cant |
| 02:17.59 | Iradieh | nkuttler: Whenever I right click it tries to start it |
| 02:18.05 | mns | nsadmin: filenames, size and permission should be enough. |
| 02:18.16 | abrotman | Iradieh: mv .mozilla .mozilla.old .. try again |
| 02:18.20 | Iradieh | abrotman: I did |
| 02:18.25 | abrotman | and? |
| 02:18.25 | nsadmin | what I would do... |
| 02:18.33 | abrotman | mns: use rsync |
| 02:18.38 | Iradieh | abrotman: nothing |
| 02:18.39 | nsadmin | figure out a dir to put the listings in |
| 02:18.42 | abrotman | Iradieh: strace it |
| 02:18.53 | Iradieh | abrotman: wait |
| 02:18.53 | nsadmin | like /home/you or somethign |
| 02:19.07 | plsd | I can't seem to list files in ftp without all extra info. For example I did "ls . list.txt" and I get entries like this: "drwxrwxrwx 2 1001 1001 4096 Feb 21 03:57 Temp", when I only want "Temp". I've looked through man files but can't really find anything. |
| 02:19.09 | nkuttler | abrotman: he can launch it from a terminal.. |
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| 02:19.15 | Iradieh | nkuttler: no I cant |
| 02:19.19 | Iradieh | I get no error either |
| 02:19.28 | Iradieh | I think deleting the .mozilla helped |
| 02:19.31 | nsadmin | cd to just inside a dir you want to compare |
| 02:19.34 | Iradieh | Too bad google said nothing about it |
| 02:19.37 | mns | was helping the boss of bosses (aka spousal unit) earlier and hence the "minute of extracting information sponsored by letters 9 an 4" rather then the numbers .. :) |
| 02:20.17 | nsadmin | ls -lR > /home/you/listing1 |
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| 02:20.23 | abrotman | mns: use rsync |
| 02:20.56 | nsadmin | then cd to just inside the other one, |
| 02:21.00 | nsadmin | ls -lR > /home/you/listing2 |
| 02:21.13 | nsadmin | cd /home/you |
| 02:21.19 | mns | nsadmin, abrotman, thanks. hadn't thought about rsync but that seems to make sense as well as what nsadmin is suggesting. |
| 02:21.24 | nsadmin | diff -u listing1 listing2 |
| 02:21.34 | abrotman | you didn't sort them |
| 02:21.44 | nsadmin | ls does that :) |
| 02:22.05 | nsadmin | but rsync will do a better job |
| 02:22.09 | nirjhari | Hi... I have been using Lenny for some months; but over the past few days I've been having problems with GDM :-( It runs through the boot up process; but the GDM would not load. I get the error message: "Fatal server error: Caught signal 11. Server aborting. " |
| 02:22.20 | squisher | hmm, why does dpkg think that version 0.99.5+cvs20070914-2.1 is newer than 0.99.5+cvs20070914-2.1~lenny2 ? |
| 02:22.37 | nirjhari | Could someone please help? Thanks a lot. |
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| 02:23.40 | squisher | and does aptitude automatically clean /var/cache/apt/archives ? |
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| 02:23.44 | tank | rocko: You rock! I'm chatting via my Zonet ZEW2500p right now!!! :) |
| 02:23.49 | abrotman | squisher: no |
| 02:24.00 | nsadmin | nirjhari first you want to run memtest86 for at least a few mins, if no errors there, that rules out hardware as the problem |
| 02:24.20 | abrotman | Iradieh: get any farther ? |
| 02:24.22 | squisher | abrotman, that's really odd, because mine is pretty empty, and I haven't run a cleanup in a long time |
| 02:24.23 | nirjhari | OK will do that... |
| 02:24.34 | squisher | oh well, guess not that important |
| 02:24.37 | rocko | okay |
| 02:24.41 | abrotman | squisher: you might have set the config limit long ago and forgotten ? |
| 02:24.59 | tank | rocko: greatly appreciated! |
| 02:25.18 | squisher | abrotman, maybe there's a default one? I just recently switched from apt-get to aptitude, and I think apt-get didn't have any limits |
| 02:25.20 | tank | Now, the only problem I have left to fix is getting flash playing right in Firefox |
| 02:25.23 | nirjhari | nsadmin: I have some more detailed error message:Backtrace: |
| 02:25.24 | nirjhari | 0:/usr/X11R6/bin/X(xf86SigHandler+0x7e) [0x80c91ce] |
| 02:25.24 | nirjhari | 1: [0xb7f1b400] |
| 02:25.24 | nirjhari | 2: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//radeon_drv.so(RADEONDRIGetVersion+0x114) [0xb7ae1bb4] |
| 02:25.24 | nirjhari | 3: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//radeon_drv.so [0xb7aaee53] |
| 02:25.24 | nirjhari | 4: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//radeon_drv.so (RADEONPreInit+0xf2f) [0xb7ab1a9f] |
| 02:25.24 | Iradieh | abrotman: yeah it works now, perfectly, thanks :) I got another issue if you got the time? It's about keymapping and Awesometiling using NX to connect |
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| 02:25.40 | sylarr | how do I monitor cpu temperature? |
| 02:25.45 | Iradieh | yeah I wonder that as well |
| 02:26.00 | abrotman | Iradieh: know nothing about NX |
| 02:26.07 | Ace2017-_ | Iradieh: smartmontools |
| 02:26.14 | Ace2017-_ | Iradieh: no wait, sensors |
| 02:26.17 | Iradieh | Ace2017-_: without X |
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| 02:26.29 | Ace2017-_ | Iradieh: lm_sensors |
| 02:26.41 | tank | Anyone here using Firefox in Lenny? |
| 02:26.50 | abrotman | tank: you mean iceweasel ? |
| 02:26.51 | Iradieh | Ace2017-_: doesnt work |
| 02:27.17 | tank | abrotman: No I took out iceweasel and installed firefox |
| 02:27.32 | rocko | bed time |
| 02:27.36 | abrotman | tank: you probably want to ask the firefox channel then |
| 02:27.38 | rocko | good night all |
| 02:27.40 | Ace2017-_ | Iradieh: what cpu is it? |
| 02:27.40 | Iradieh | I am using Alt (called option on OS X) already to do eg: @£$, and I am using Control already to control Emacs (inside awesome). However Cmd (meta, win-key) is being used by OS X for stuff like cut, paste, search and etc. Now I don't mind it being used by NX/Awesome/linux when I got NX up (NX is somehow like VNC, but faster) |
| 02:27.43 | tank | just not happy with flash and haven't been able to figure out how to install flash 10 |
| 02:27.48 | Iradieh | Ace2017-_: C2D intel Santa Rosa |
| 02:28.00 | tank | night rocko |
| 02:28.18 | tank | abrotman: is it on freenode? |
| 02:28.27 | abrotman | nope |
| 02:28.32 | Ace2017-_ | Iradieh: and sensors doesn't show the temps? |
| 02:28.38 | Iradieh | Ace2017-_: what=? |
| 02:28.43 | Iradieh | Ace2017-_: there is no command like that |
| 02:28.45 | abrotman | tank: if you want to isntall flash, you can just grab it from adobe.com ? |
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| 02:29.15 | Ace2017-_ | Iradieh: install lm-sensors and run sensors from the command line |
| 02:29.29 | tank | abrotman: I did download the zip file once I figured out where iceweasel or epiphany was putting it, but could not get it to install |
| 02:30.12 | Iradieh | Ace2017-_: thanks |
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| 02:30.34 | abrotman | tank: i can tell you how to do it with iceweasel .. that'd be about it |
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| 02:30.39 | tank | abrotman: I though it should be *.deb, but it was install-flashplayer |
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| 02:31.36 | tank | abrotman: I'm used to firefox - it was quite different to use iceweasel/epiphany |
| 02:31.48 | abrotman | uh .. same browser |
| 02:31.54 | Iradieh | Is there a way to see what is included in Xubuntu, because I am having a hard time choosing between Debian Xfce and Xubuntu |
| 02:32.13 | abrotman | Iradieh: ask #xubuntu |
| 02:32.18 | Iradieh | ok |
| 02:32.19 | tank | I'll go see if I can find the firefox chat. Thanks for all the great help tonight! |
| 02:32.29 | abrotman | tank: it's irc.mozilla.com |
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| 02:32.31 | abrotman | or .org |
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| 02:32.56 | Iradieh | abrotman: Btw, whats the current status of Debian version |
| 02:33.04 | Iradieh | How do I check what version of Debian I am running and "code name" |
| 02:33.21 | abrotman | sources.list |
| 02:33.36 | el_critter | Hi, anyone knows how to enable jack-sense on intel hda? I plug my headphones and music keeps playing through laptop speakers. |
| 02:33.56 | sylarr | if I put lvm2 on mdadm raid5, do I put it straight on /dev/md0 ? |
| 02:34.01 | Iradieh | abrotman: I have edited that |
| 02:34.02 | `Starke | hey quick question does the proprietary nvidia driver work under 5.0? |
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| 02:34.38 | abrotman | Iradieh: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
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| 02:35.31 | `Starke | guess not |
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| 02:36.44 | gondim | hi all |
| 02:37.09 | gondim | I have this problem when running aptitude update: |
| 02:37.29 | gondim | W: GPG error: http://security.debian.org lenny/updates Release: As seguintes assinaturas eram inválidas: BADSIG A70DAF536070D3A1 Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (4.0/etch) <ftpmaster@debian.org> |
| 02:37.41 | gondim | help me please :) |
| 02:38.01 | gondim | I using debian lenny amd64 |
| 02:38.26 | abrotman | gondim: aptitude install debian-archive-keyring |
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| 02:38.55 | abrotman | `Starke: the ones from nvidia.com or the debian way? |
| 02:39.15 | gondim | abrotman: ii debian-archive-keyring 2009.01.31 GnuPG archive keys of the Debian archive |
| 02:39.24 | gondim | abrotman: and nothing. same problem |
| 02:40.52 | abrotman | gondim: might be a bad sync |
| 02:42.18 | Iradieh | abrotman: Thats not what I asked for |
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| 02:42.28 | Iradieh | Does anyone know how to check current version of Debian and it's codename? |
| 02:42.30 | abrotman | Iradieh: you asked how to know which version |
| 02:42.36 | abrotman | you're running |
| 02:42.40 | gondim | abrotman: is there any command to do? |
| 02:42.40 | Iradieh | abrotman: oh ok sorry |
| 02:42.54 | abrotman | gondim: it seems like a server issue .. i don't get it here though |
| 02:43.03 | abrotman | !version |
| 02:43.03 | dpkg | Kernel: uname -r. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version. and: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n 1. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command. check /etc/apt/sources.list; run apt-cache policy <packagename>, or lsb_release -a, or cat /proc/version. Do cat /etc/{*version*,*release*,*issue*} which should grab almost all distros |
| 02:43.51 | gondim | abrotman: only then would wait? :) |
| 02:43.57 | gondim | abrotman: thanks :) |
| 02:44.00 | abrotman | gondim: i think .. |
| 02:44.08 | abrotman | gondim: if it's still messed up tomorrow, check back again |
| 02:44.23 | gondim | abrotman: ok :) |
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| 02:44.25 | abrotman | gondim: or you can remove that key totally |
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| 02:44.42 | gondim | abrotman: apt-key del :) |
| 02:44.46 | abrotman | right .. you can try it |
| 02:44.53 | gondim | abrotman: ok |
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| 02:47.52 | nsadmin | so I just tried to build the nvidia module... it did get further than before, I assume the new devscripts fixed something.... but still there are problems, please look at this build log: |
| 02:47.55 | nsadmin | http://pastebin.ca/1344607 |
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| 02:48.28 | nsadmin | and this is trying to build the module for 2.6.28 |
| 02:48.42 | Boffy | hi when i use ulimit, is it modify directly or do i need to relog in the user to have the effect change? |
| 02:49.32 | \amethyst | Boffy: it is changed for the current instance of the shell (and things it executes) only |
| 02:49.41 | Boffy | oh.. |
| 02:49.48 | Boffy | so screen doesnt affected.. |
| 02:50.15 | \amethyst | Boffy: if you type 'ulimit foo' in a shell inside the screen, then no, the screen is not affected |
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| 02:50.50 | Boffy | is there a way to affect a shell from anoher one |
| 02:50.54 | Boffy | because my applicaitnr each his limit. |
| 02:50.58 | Boffy | applicatin |
| 02:51.14 | Boffy | i cannot turn it down |
| 02:51.20 | Boffy | because there users connect to it |
| 02:51.28 | Boffy | reach* the limit |
| 02:51.39 | \amethyst | Boffy: no... the only way to change screen's limits is to quit screen (not just detach), set the limits, and restart |
| 02:51.52 | Boffy | oh... |
| 02:51.54 | gondim | abrotman: I wait for tomorrow :) thanks for all |
| 02:51.59 | abrotman | gondim: okay |
| 02:52.07 | nsadmin | so a limit set in a shell affects onlyt the process started by the shell? |
| 02:52.13 | \amethyst | Boffy: you can set persistent limits on a per-user basis in /etc/security/limits.conf |
| 02:52.17 | \amethyst | nsadmin: and the shell itself |
| 02:52.31 | Boffy | yeah but i am looking for a way to |
| 02:52.35 | Boffy | change the limit |
| 02:52.37 | Boffy | wihtout killing my shell |
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| 02:52.43 | Boffy | because there a production applcation runing in it |
| 02:52.46 | Boffy | i cannot put it down.. |
| 02:52.55 | Boffy | there's no way right? |
| 02:53.12 | \amethyst | do you need to change the limit for that application? |
| 02:53.17 | nsadmin | you'd have to find a way to run the ulimit directly from the app |
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| 02:54.19 | \amethyst | you could theoretically attach to it with a debugger and call setrlimit(), but that's rather dangerous |
| 02:54.46 | Boffy | i am currecntly attach to GDB |
| 02:54.56 | Boffy | is it posible to set the limit in the gdb ? |
| 02:55.16 | Boffy | hm |
| 02:55.36 | Ace2017-_ | nsadmin: what nvidia version is that? |
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| 02:57.03 | nsadmin | oops... sorry... gotta go |
| 02:57.30 | nsadmin | Source: nvidia-graphics-drivers |
| 02:57.30 | nsadmin | Version: 1.0.8776-4 |
| 02:57.57 | nsadmin | newest available in etch |
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| 03:09.59 | TheWindowsGeek | whens the next debian coming out? |
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| 03:11.27 | doglinox | hello people, I knew that the user root has a default e-mmail account , somebody can show me a link that explains that? |
| 03:11.50 | abrotman | !tell TheWindowsGeek about wir |
| 03:11.50 | xoz_ | doglinox: /etc/aliases |
| 03:12.30 | doglinox | xoz_ sorry, i did not understand |
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| 03:13.01 | xoz_ | doglinox: read the mapping in /etc/aliases using your editor. or apropos aliases |
| 03:13.03 | intx | YEAH WELL WE DON'T GET YOU EITHER! :( |
| 03:13.14 | stew | doglinox: man 5 aliases |
| 03:13.25 | doglinox | ok |
| 03:13.25 | stew | intx: please turn off your caps lock |
| 03:13.45 | intx | the key broke :( |
| 03:14.00 | nsadmin | in the lock? |
| 03:14.15 | intx | yep, must've used it too much |
| 03:14.42 | intx | now I have to hold shift to type small letters :( |
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| 03:15.36 | nsadmin | anyone know how I could hook a full sized kbd to a cell like a moto razr v3 to do texting? |
| 03:16.21 | doglinox | stew this command don't works man 5 aliases |
| 03:16.39 | doglinox | intx huauhahu |
| 03:16.54 | xoz_ | doglinox: man etc-aliases. or apropos aliases first |
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| 03:17.15 | xoz_ | thinks doglinox is using exim... |
| 03:17.44 | Ace2017-_ | How do i check this out with git? i tried git checkout on the url and then git checkout from within xserver to xgl-0-0-1 but its not working :( http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/log/?h=xgl-0-0-1 |
| 03:18.03 | intx | doglinox maybe you're trying to do: su -;pine? |
| 03:18.05 | Ace2017-_ | error: pathspec 'xgl-0-0-1' did not match any file(s) known to git. |
| 03:18.18 | abrotman | nsadmin: wrong channel |
| 03:18.45 | gravity | Ace2017-_: git checkout -b xgl origin/xgl-0-0-1 |
| 03:18.59 | gravity | Ace2017-_: Although xgl is kinda... not really maintained |
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| 03:19.57 | Ace2017-_ | i don't mind if its not maintained, i just hope it works, there still nothing thats a good replacement for xgl on my integrated nvidia card (removed the discrete card, waste of energy) |
| 03:20.04 | roue | hola |
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| 03:20.18 | gravity | Well, good luck getting it to build |
| 03:20.40 | doglinox | xoz_ thanks |
| 03:20.40 | abrotman | shouldn't aiglx work on older cards ? |
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| 03:21.31 | gravity | I'm not sure what's up with nvidia. |
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| 03:21.53 | roue | I'm using debootstrap to build a bootable lenny install on a compact flash card. I'm chrooted into the debootstrap root and am trying to install a 686 kernel, but I can't find one. only amd64. |
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| 03:22.34 | abrotman | roue: dpkg-architecture .. what is the first line? |
| 03:23.14 | Ace2017-_ | abrotman: it works but too slow, wobbly windows lags in kde4 |
| 03:23.42 | roue | abrotman /usr/bin/dpkg-architecture doesn't seem to be installed. |
| 03:24.43 | roue | okay, installing dpkg-dev now... |
| 03:24.55 | abrotman | roue: sounds like you debootstrapped the amd64 version and not i386 ? |
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| 03:25.34 | roue | abrotman probably so. I'll see what command line option I screwed up on the debootstrap. |
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| 03:26.54 | bombaclat2 | Anyone running Lenny with an ESi Juli@? Do you also get clipping when sounds start/end? (tried installing the latest alsa, but same problem) |
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| 03:28.45 | bombaclat2 | Is it possible to have a multiple monitor setup where the same workspace is shared between the screens (I can drag windows from screen to screen), but each screen is independent (ie if I fullscreen an app on screen1, it will use use the real-estate of screen 1 ONLY)? |
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| 03:30.02 | roue | bombaclat2I believe that's how it normally works. |
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| 03:30.24 | roue | bombaclat2 at least, that's how my dual monitor setup behaves |
| 03:31.19 | bombaclat2 | ok...I setup mine via the nvidia-settings, but twinview = desktop spanned acrossed 2 screens, or a diff X for each screen |
| 03:32.26 | Arrowmaster | you want the spanned across 2 screens |
| 03:33.02 | bombaclat2 | no..becuase when spanned if I fullscreen an application, it will use the real-estate of both screens |
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| 03:34.05 | Arrowmaster | then its not configured properly |
| 03:34.21 | bombaclat2 | ohh |
| 03:34.46 | bombaclat2 | lets fiddle and see |
| 03:34.47 | bombaclat2 | thanks |
| 03:35.05 | roue | bombaclat2 I use Xinerama and it was a piece of cake. |
| 03:35.16 | roue | (rather than twinview) |
| 03:35.21 | roue | also with two nvidia cards. |
| 03:35.47 | Arrowmaster | yeah use xinerama |
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| 03:36.13 | bombaclat2 | ok..also 2x nvs290 here for a quad display |
| 03:37.11 | bombaclat2 | xinerama or RandR? |
| 03:37.23 | bombaclat2 | "As of 2008[update], Xinerama is planned to be deprecated in the future by X.org in favor of XRandR [1]." |
| 03:38.00 | nirjhari | nsadmin: There was an offending fglrx package which was creating problems... After removing that it is working like a charm! Thanks... |
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| 03:45.02 | Bombaclat | nice..it works with xinerama enabled |
| 03:45.34 | Bombaclat | but the icons moved screen and I cannot change their screen..hmm |
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| 03:46.33 | sylarr | something happened to my file system and it has bocome read only file syste |
| 03:46.36 | sylarr | m |
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| 03:48.40 | sylarr | and then I have a lot of WARNINIGs from RRD in syslog |
| 03:48.54 | sylarr | hmmm |
| 03:48.58 | sylarr | gona shutdown |
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| 03:49.35 | sylarr | # reboot |
| 03:49.35 | sylarr | bash: /sbin/reboot: Input/output error |
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| 03:58.39 | jamon | sylarr: you need to fsck your drive, if you can't reboot, can you use sysrq? |
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| 03:59.25 | jamon | sylarr: i'd also suggest making sure you have a backup of important data and run smartctl on your drive to check for errors |
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| 04:05.36 | Iradieh | Is there a way to mount SFTP disk's in Xfce4/Thunar? |
| 04:06.13 | jamon | Iradieh: try sshfs |
| 04:06.14 | roue | Iradieh have you tried sshfs ? |
| 04:06.18 | roue | jinx |
| 04:06.22 | jamon | heh |
| 04:06.54 | Iradieh | roue: is it commandline or GUI |
| 04:06.59 | Iradieh | jamon: I mean will I see the disks in THunar? |
| 04:06.59 | roue | command line |
| 04:07.07 | Iradieh | I want to see the disks in THunar |
| 04:07.20 | roue | Iradieh you can mount them anywhere you want. |
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| 04:07.46 | squisher | Iradieh, setup is command line, but usage is through Thunar |
| 04:08.00 | Iradieh | awesome |
| 04:08.01 | Iradieh | thanks guys |
| 04:08.02 | squisher | Iradieh, there might be some links with setup help if you jump over to #xfce |
| 04:08.11 | Iradieh | It's ok I can manage -h was helpful (for once!) |
| 04:08.23 | squisher | :) |
| 04:10.24 | Iradieh | Some help would be nice though |
| 04:10.24 | Iradieh | seivan@subby:~$ sshfs seivan@192.168.1.2:~/Desktop ~/sMacBook |
| 04:10.24 | Iradieh | Password: |
| 04:10.25 | Iradieh | seivan@192.168.1.2:~/Desktop: No such file or directory |
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| 04:10.51 | Iradieh | Wonder why that happens |
| 04:11.02 | icenine | Iradieh, don't use ~ it's a shell thing |
| 04:11.15 | icenine | Iradieh, use $HOME |
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| 04:11.29 | squisher | no that's wrong info to - home expands on you local machine |
| 04:11.39 | squisher | it might not be the same directory remotely |
| 04:11.41 | icenine | squisher, indeed |
| 04:11.42 | squisher | just don't specify it |
| 04:11.46 | SpaceAviator | If I want to download the gnome version of 5.0 should I just get the disc 1? |
| 04:11.50 | squisher | sshfs seivan@192.168.1.2:Desktop ~/sMacBook |
| 04:11.54 | icenine | squisher, but the shell substitutes out ~ in a string like foo:~/bar? |
| 04:11.57 | icenine | I don't think it does |
| 04:12.02 | icenine | where as it does substitute $HOME. |
| 04:12.31 | squisher | I don't think the shell expands ~ here because it's in the middle of a string |
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| 04:12.37 | icenine | that's what I just said! |
| 04:12.48 | squisher | it would expand $HOME of course - which does work if $HOME is the same local and remote |
| 04:12.49 | icenine | $HOME will work :D |
| 04:12.53 | icenine | ok |
| 04:12.57 | icenine | so don't dispute me if im right. |
| 04:13.05 | Iradieh | seivan@subby:~$ sudo sshfs seivan@192.168.1.2:Desktop/ /home/seivan/sMacBook/ |
| 04:13.06 | Iradieh | read: Connection reset by peer |
| 04:13.21 | Iradieh | I got SSH on :/ and the ip is 192.168.1.2 (local connection) |
| 04:13.28 | Iradieh | I can ssh to it.. |
| 04:13.42 | squisher | wonders if sshfs uses sftp |
| 04:13.49 | squisher | Iradieh, not sure but try sftp as well |
| 04:13.58 | Iradieh | uhm huh? |
| 04:14.21 | squisher | sftp is a command, like ssh, which allows ftp style access over the ssh protocol |
| 04:14.22 | Iradieh | I can use SCp if that is what you are asking |
| 04:14.38 | Iradieh | SFTp works if SCP works and SCP works well now |
| 04:15.20 | squisher | Iradieh, I don't think that's necessarily true. That's the only suggestion I have right now anyway |
| 04:15.42 | unop | not sure about that .. sftp is a subsystem that needs to be enabled |
| 04:15.46 | squisher | I think scp runs over the main ssh protocol, and sshfs uses the sftp subsystem |
| 04:15.56 | Iradieh | lol wut?I could use SFTP |
| 04:16.09 | Iradieh | Fetching /Users/seivan/Desktop/calender.rb to assoc.rb |
| 04:16.10 | Iradieh | /Users/seivan/Desktop/calender.rb 100% 2665 2.6KB/s 00:00 |
| 04:16.11 | el_critter | Hi, anyone knows how to enable jack-sense on intel hda? I plug my headphones and music keeps playing through laptop speakers. |
| 04:16.47 | MrSuperstar | check alsa-utils |
| 04:17.30 | Iradieh | squisher: Well it worked, ssfh however doesnt |
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| 04:17.56 | timewriter | hi |
| 04:18.09 | squisher | Iradieh, not sure then, sorry. Read the sshfs docs, or google for the error |
| 04:18.09 | timewriter | is there a way to install the latest gnome version on debian 5 ? |
| 04:19.07 | MrSuperstar | check on sid repositories |
| 04:19.30 | maxagaz | how to set the home directory of user 'gvigner' to '/opt/gilles' ? |
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| 04:19.50 | MrSuperstar | why would you do that? |
| 04:19.54 | MrSuperstar | :| |
| 04:20.14 | Iradieh | Does anyone here mount their OSX disks with sshfs? OR similar, I am trying to mount my macbook on Debian using SFTP |
| 04:22.19 | MrSuperstar | Iradieh have you read if the file system that OSX is compatible |
| 04:22.32 | Iradieh | it doesnt need to with sshFs |
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| 04:23.59 | unop | maxagaz, see man 8 moduser |
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| 04:24.15 | unop | maxagaz, err sorry. man 8 usermod |
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| 04:24.34 | unop | always gets this one mixed up |
| 04:24.34 | Iradieh | Does anyone here mount their OSX disks with sshfs? OR similar, I am trying to mount my macbook on Debian using SFTP |
| 04:24.39 | ubd | does anyone use torrentflux |
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| 04:25.29 | batcoder-7 | i cannot write to a thumbstick |
| 04:25.34 | dannz_ | ubd: i use torrentflux |
| 04:25.38 | batcoder-7 | almost liek it works sometimes and not others |
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| 04:25.50 | nkuttler | is it just me or is there no slocate in lenny and there was no transitional package to warn me of that? |
| 04:25.51 | maxagaz | unop, why adding the 8 ? |
| 04:25.54 | summatusmentis | am I missing something, or is mod-rewrite not in debian repos? |
| 04:26.02 | CaT[t3] | is it possible to stop audacity from showing the full window as I move it? |
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| 04:26.20 | ubd | dannz, does it run on localhost 80 or some other port? |
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| 04:26.43 | dannz | ubd: its a php app, you need to run it in apache or something |
| 04:26.54 | dannz | ubd: or are you talking about what ports it uses for torrents? |
| 04:27.22 | ubd | nope i have apache but i uderstand i couldnt conıgured it yet. ill read some more |
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| 04:27.34 | batcoder-7 | why cant i write ot my usb thumbstick ? |
| 04:27.35 | Mr|Dave | hi, in the debian installer, I can't find ifconfig... should I be running something else to test for connectivity problems? The installer says it can't figure out my dhcp and grabs every available IP in the process |
| 04:27.38 | nkuttler | summatusmentis: should come with a standard install, see a2enmod |
| 04:27.40 | maxagaz | unop, when i cat passwd, it shows that the home directory of user 'gvigner' is set as '/opt/gilles', but still it doesn't work |
| 04:28.02 | unop | maxagaz, how do you ascertain it doesn't work? |
| 04:28.11 | Mr|Dave | It seems like the installer runs busybox and there are a ton of things in /bin and /sbin, but not ifconfig |
| 04:28.29 | maxagaz | unop, i can't login with the username 'gvigner' |
| 04:28.35 | unop | Iradieh, have you tried putting an entry in /etc/fstab ? |
| 04:28.48 | unop | maxagaz, any errors you get? |
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| 04:28.58 | dihymo | ok apt-get update is not using my sources.list it's using ftp.debian.org instead of http://http.us.debian.org and i get a bunch of Convert: package version messages |
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| 04:29.03 | Iradieh | unop: huh? |
| 04:29.08 | Iradieh | wtf is that supposed to mean? |
| 04:29.10 | Iradieh | seivan@subby:~$ sudo sshfs seivan@192.168.1.2:Desktop/ /home/seivan/sMacBook/ |
| 04:29.10 | Iradieh | read: Connection reset by peer |
| 04:29.14 | Iradieh | I cant get that shit to work |
| 04:29.34 | maxagaz | unop, yes, it says 'login incorrect' |
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| 04:30.23 | batcoder-7 | wow this is pissign me off |
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| 04:31.32 | unop | maxagaz, checked the permissions of /opt/gilles ? |
| 04:31.39 | nkuttler | batcoder-7: filesystem? |
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| 04:32.01 | Iradieh | Does anyone here mount their OSX disks with sshfs? OR similar, I am trying to mount my macbook on Debian using SFTP I really need help with this one can you mount your mac's disks? |
| 04:32.30 | batcoder-7 | nkuttler, FAT: utf8 |
| 04:32.42 | Mr|Dave | nevermind, it looks like it's a bug in the installer from mid-2008 that no one has gotten around to fixing |
| 04:32.51 | nkuttler | batcoder-7: /msg dpkg vfatrw |
| 04:32.52 | batcoder-7 | never really had this problem before |
| 04:33.07 | mosno | does lenny's iceweasel still use /tmp for its temporary download area? |
| 04:33.16 | maxagaz | unop, i changed the owner to gvigner:gvigner |
| 04:33.28 | mosno | if so, i might just increase the d-i recommended 350MB root filesystem... |
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| 04:35.46 | batcoder-7 | nkuttler, anyway to do it so i dont have to put it in the fstab? |
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| 04:36.17 | sylarr | s this normal for mdadm raid 5 to start with one drive spair? |
| 04:36.19 | nkuttler | batcoder-7: man mount, see the fat section |
| 04:36.34 | sylarr | r> from what I know spair mean an idle drive that doesn't do anything and wait for the other to fail |
| 04:36.53 | sylarr | but I have only 3 drives |
| 04:36.53 | sylarr | so how can it be a spair? |
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| 04:39.07 | batcoder-7 | if it is mounting it on /media/disk |
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| 04:39.20 | batcoder-7 | what is the easieast way to un mmount? |
| 04:39.33 | dannz | batcoder-7 umount /media/disk ? |
| 04:39.44 | batcoder-7 | ok |
| 04:39.56 | lewis2 | I'm having trouble allowing resume uploads on proftdp. I have enabled AllowOverwrite and AllowStoreRestart, but get the following error: 550 SIZE not allowed in ASCII mode - any ideas? |
| 04:40.52 | squisher | lewis2, are you transfering text files? Otherwise why is your ftp client in ascii mode, and not binary? |
| 04:41.33 | lewis2 | transferring a .rar, using crystal ftp pro, and it does the transfer in binary, but it looks like it executes the size command as ASCII (or rather, in ASCII mode) |
| 04:41.43 | nsadmin | lewis2: you know ftp has two modes? |
| 04:41.48 | mosno | hrm, i might have found a bug in d-i: if you do guided partitioning + encrypted LVM, and decide to change the partition layout (from 'separate everything' to 'separate home'), it doesn't actually redo the partitioning on the LVM VG.. can anyone confirm? |
| 04:41.52 | lewis2 | yes, read my answer. |
| 04:42.21 | squisher | lewis2, not sure then, that was my lucky shot ;-) |
| 04:42.29 | Arrowmaster | try a different ftp client? |
| 04:43.05 | nsadmin | so it thinks that because it's doing the size command as an ascii transfer, it applies the "this is ascii" to the overall transfer |
| 04:43.22 | lewis2 | I know that it can resume, and have seen it resume on other servers. |
| 04:43.42 | lewis2 | in the log, I can see that it does SIZE, gets the error, then turns to binary mode, and starts uploading in binary |
| 04:44.19 | nsadmin | so proftpd is not allowing size when in ascii mode? |
| 04:44.28 | nsadmin | is the client switching to ascii? |
| 04:44.45 | lewis2 | errr |
| 04:45.03 | nsadmin | I guess if so you should see that in the proftpd log |
| 04:45.14 | lewis2 | http://www.castaglia.org/proftpd/doc/contrib/ProFTPD-mini-HOWTO-ASCII.html - not sure if that is relevant |
| 04:46.04 | lewis2 | since the file is being uploaded in binary, I presume the issue is that my client should be doing SIZE in binary, and not ASCII |
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| 04:47.07 | nsadmin | wait... it says that RFC959 requires CRLF, which isn't making sense to me... crlf is what dos and windows uses for ascii mode |
| 04:47.46 | \amethyst | DOS and Windows use the standard |
| 04:48.02 | \amethyst | Unix was the innovator with single-character end-of-line |
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| 04:49.52 | ubd | The requested URL /torrentflux was not found on this server. but the folder is in right place ^^ |
| 04:50.07 | nsadmin | \amethyst but unix came first (1970s), first PC was near beginning of 1980, first mac in 1984 |
| 04:51.18 | ubd | this is apache php |
| 04:53.09 | nsadmin | yep that is what the RFC says |
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| 04:53.45 | nsadmin | and this was in 1985 according to the rfc date |
| 04:54.39 | lewis2 | bah - best freeware windows ftp client that I can quickly try as an alternative? |
| 04:55.00 | Arrowmaster | filezilla |
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| 04:55.21 | pl4yer0ne | 'lo all |
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| 04:56.38 | pl4yer0ne | I was wondering, is there a "debian" way to compile and install from source? |
| 04:56.56 | lewis2 | bah - it IS my ftp client - thanks all |
| 04:57.02 | nsadmin | there are debianized sources |
| 04:57.12 | nsadmin | you can get those and build packages from them |
| 04:57.48 | nsadmin | I'm a simple minded person with a complex |
| 04:57.59 | pl4yer0ne | yeah but I mean for $package_that_debian_doesnt_have |
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| 04:58.20 | nsadmin | then you take the role of packager |
| 04:58.32 | nsadmin | and there's lots and lots of documentation on that |
| 04:58.47 | pl4yer0ne | yeah ok that what I thought |
| 04:59.03 | pl4yer0ne | s/that/that's |
| 04:59.04 | nsadmin | do you understand make pretty well? |
| 04:59.06 | squisher | pl4yer0ne, a crude way is checkinstall |
| 04:59.39 | pl4yer0ne | gah i fail - and thanks squisher i'll have a look |
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| 05:00.48 | lolololol | http://ihateliz.com/?id=hl1k9e2smpri0t42m1rx8cu6fw61zd |
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| 05:01.06 | pl4yer0ne | ah yeah squisher thats pretty much what i am after |
| 05:01.27 | pl4yer0ne | just want a way of being able to back out of these changes a bit easier. |
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| 05:02.23 | unjustice | anyone know where to get a copy of hdsploader for debian (or possibly multiface_firmware_rev11.bin)? |
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| 05:06.39 | bg1 | Greetings! Guys, i need ur help in a simple question: |
| 05:06.43 | bg1 | (i have clean Lenny with gnome), Why "root-terminal" or any other in "Alt+F2"->"gksu anyapp" opens windows in background and don't drops it directly in my hands? O_O |
| 05:06.43 | bg1 | Thank You, beforehand! |
| 05:06.59 | sylarr | can mdadm repair the raid if the system is on it, and while the system is up? |
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| 05:07.28 | CaT[t3] | depends on what you mean by repair |
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| 05:07.57 | CaT[t3] | if you're asking if you can add remove and add redundant drives, then yes. |
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| 05:10.17 | sylarr | CaT[t3], I mean this - suppose one have raid1 with a degraded disk, and then adding the second hd |
| 05:10.54 | CaT[t3] | you can replace it whilst booted from it. hot swap depends on your hw |
| 05:12.31 | batcoder-7 | how can i mount a vfat so it is writeable ? |
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| 05:13.23 | hoxu | !tell batcoder-7 about vfatrw |
| 05:13.37 | bg1 | batcoder-7: are you in gnome? |
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| 05:14.55 | batcoder-7 | xfce |
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| 05:15.11 | bg1 | batcoder-7: "umask=000" option is a perfect way to write in vfat |
| 05:15.30 | batcoder-7 | where do i put that in the mount? |
| 05:15.33 | Dreamlinux | hi there :) |
| 05:15.38 | sylarr | CaT[t3], I have some spair disk on board |
| 05:16.04 | bg1 | mount -t vfat -o utf8,umask=000 /dev/drive /mount-folder |
| 05:16.33 | Dreamlinux | any problem with the driver of nvidia on Debian Lenny? |
| 05:16.47 | CaT[t3] | syl: yes... |
| 05:16.57 | sylarr | CaT[t3], but the question is if the repair need to be on an offline system |
| 05:17.21 | CaT[t3] | syl: how do either of my answers not answers yours. |
| 05:17.38 | bg1 | but in gnome, you can specify that option once in gconf-editor and just forget about it, every vfat-drive will mount in rw-mode. (: |
| 05:17.39 | bg1 | Maybe xfce have similar place... |
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| 05:18.38 | app4des | batcoder-7: umask=222 is better |
| 05:18.50 | batcoder-7 | WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE? |
| 05:18.51 | batcoder-7 | OOSP CAPS |
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| 05:19.01 | app4des | get it easy :P |
| 05:19.03 | bg1 | man mount - is the best way (: |
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| 05:19.40 | obnauticus | Is anyone here good with pulseaudio? |
| 05:20.17 | Xor1ng | morning |
| 05:21.29 | bg1 | erhmm... I have afternoon now... (: |
| 05:21.43 | bg1 | 13:22 actualy. (: |
| 05:21.56 | sylarr | CaT[t3], o, sorry , |
| 05:22.07 | sylarr | CaT[t3], didn't know you short my nick |
| 05:22.08 | app4des | guys does anyone know a sane way to disable that pop-up in gnome of avahi discovery? |
| 05:22.23 | CaT[t3] | syl: I don't have nick completion so... yeah. sorry. :) |
| 05:22.50 | Xor1ng | bg1, when awake - then the morning :) |
| 05:23.02 | bg1 | Is here someone, who knows, Why "root-terminal" or any other in "Alt+F2"->"gksu anyapp" opens windows in background and don't drops it directly in my hands? O_O |
| 05:23.17 | bg1 | or nobody using gnome here? O_O |
| 05:23.28 | Xor1ng | i'm |
| 05:23.39 | Dreamlinux | bg1, hi dude.. me too, I use GNOME |
| 05:23.56 | Dreamlinux | what is your problem? |
| 05:24.15 | bg1 | Why "root-terminal" or any other in "Alt+F2"->"gksu anyapp" opens windows in background and don't drops it directly in my hands? O_O |
| 05:24.26 | bg1 | "Xor1ng: bg1, when awake - then the morning" - looks like ur russian. (: |
| 05:24.40 | Xor1ng | :) |
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| 05:26.31 | sylarr | can I make an existing HD into raid1 if it wasn't raid1 without reboot? |
| 05:26.32 | Xor1ng | bg1, so, I can say sloppy. sorry :-/ |
| 05:27.02 | bg1 | I'm just few two days in Debian, used Ubuntu for a year, and this kind of some small things just makes me nervious, cus i can't fix them! O_O |
| 05:27.04 | bg1 | :-* |
| 05:27.05 | Dreamlinux | bg1, invokes the program directly, without using gksu |
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| 05:27.45 | Dreamlinux | e.g: alt + f2 [ leafpad ] :) |
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| 05:33.43 | khaije1 | has anyone seen a boot error stating "ata2: soft reset failed (device not ready)" that prevents a system from booting ? |
| 05:34.05 | khaije1 | my system freezes on the "kernel alive" screen |
| 05:35.21 | Dreamlinux | khaije1, hi |
| 05:35.34 | khaije1 | Dreamlinux: :) |
| 05:37.45 | Dreamlinux | khaije1, tests your hard my friend! |
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| 05:42.25 | Dreamlinux | any one use the program HTTrack copier ? |
| 05:42.31 | obnauticus | Err... where's the alsa configuration file by default? It's not in /etc/asound.conf |
| 05:43.05 | khaije1 | there may also be a ~/.asoundrc |
| 05:43.17 | obnauticus | nope |
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| 05:44.43 | evilGUI | I got this, today while being in this channel :/ http://pastebin.com/m410274db |
| 05:44.46 | khaije1 | google says those are the only two.... http://alsa.opensrc.org/.asoundrc#What_is_a_.asoundrc_file.3F_Why_might_I_want_one.3F |
| 05:44.47 | Cheeese | DCC SEND startkeylogger 0 0 0 |
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| 05:44.52 | obnauticus | facepalm. |
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| 05:45.22 | obnauticus | he sent a NORTON anti virus exploit in a debian LINUX channel? |
| 05:45.28 | evilGUI | What was that? |
| 05:45.37 | evilGUI | It was a virus exploit? |
| 05:45.42 | obnauticus | naw |
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| 05:45.56 | obnauticus | Norton AV sees the text that he said over 6667 and closes the connection |
| 05:46.03 | evilGUI | What could that have been? |
| 05:46.13 | obnauticus | disconnect a user running norton AV from IRC |
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| 05:46.49 | evilGUI | So I have nothing to worry about? |
| 05:46.53 | khaije1 | obnauticus: if neither of those files are what you're looking for there may be a system default or none at all (and just using the default settings) |
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| 05:47.39 | obnauticus | heh |
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| 05:48.39 | Xor1ng | obnauticus, i found in my box /var/lib/asound.state only. :) |
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| 05:49.55 | samplr | I'm getting a list of things from a function's stdout. What's the right way to loop through them? putting the whole thing in a subshell sounds like a bad idea. I can't use xargs, either. |
| 05:50.10 | samplr | s/function/command |
| 05:50.40 | obnauticus | Xor1ng are you good with pulseaudio? |
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| 05:50.54 | Xor1ng | obnauticus, /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf - default config |
| 05:51.15 | sylarr | does dd from a phisical drive partition to an LVM partition sound right? |
| 05:52.00 | Xor1ng | obnauticus, no :-/ |
| 05:52.26 | khaije1 | obnauticus: what is your question? |
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| 05:52.40 | obnauticus | I got the following error with mpg123-alsa when im trying to play something back |
| 05:52.43 | obnauticus | i just installed pulseaudio |
| 05:52.46 | obnauticus | *** PULSEAUDIO: Unable to connect: Connection refused |
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| 05:53.22 | Xor1ng | obcecado, i think your pulseaudio daemon is not started |
| 05:53.28 | Xor1ng | oops |
| 05:53.31 | obnauticus | >:| |
| 05:53.32 | obnauticus | HOW DARE YOU |
| 05:53.40 | khaije1 | heh |
| 05:53.44 | obnauticus | im just kidding |
| 05:53.45 | obnauticus | lol |
| 05:54.47 | khaije1 | i've used this on ubuntu (http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup#ALSAApplications) but haven't had success with it using lenny |
| 05:55.18 | mosno | aww, lenny fails to resume from suspend on my lappie :( |
| 05:55.25 | obnauticus | Xor1ng hold |
| 05:55.30 | obnauticus | i started the daemon and i gets new errored |
| 05:55.39 | obnauticus | http://pastebin.ca/1344729 |
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| 05:57.28 | Xor1ng | wtf? |
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| 05:57.44 | obnauticus | Xor1ng no idea |
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| 05:58.03 | obnauticus | Xor1ng anyway -- my alsa devices are showing up as being used by the pulseaudio daemon. |
| 05:58.23 | Xor1ng | obfuscator, /dev/audio is present? |
| 05:58.28 | obnauticus | nope |
| 05:58.33 | obnauticus | wait |
| 05:58.34 | obnauticus | nm it is |
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| 06:01.05 | obnauticus | Xor1ng any idea? |
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| 06:01.13 | Xor1ng | if /dev/audio isn't present, i think, you need to load kernel module for your audio card |
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| 06:01.17 | obnauticus | it is. |
| 06:01.33 | obnauticus | Xor1ng: crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 4 2009-02-22 21:48 /dev/audio |
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| 06:03.32 | obnauticus | :( |
| 06:04.09 | Xor1ng | obnauticus, wait.. |
| 06:04.10 | khaije1 | obnauticus: did you setup the alsa-pulse redirect? |
| 06:04.15 | obnauticus | errr |
| 06:04.16 | obnauticus | i don't know |
| 06:04.25 | khaije1 | the one in the pulseaudio link i posted |
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| 06:04.44 | obnauticus | looks |
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| 06:05.09 | khaije1 | http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup#ALSAApplications <-- tells pulse to grab the actual interface, then pretend to be the alsa interface (what you probably want most of the time) |
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| 06:05.39 | Xor1ng | "pulseaudio -D main.c: This program is not intended to be run as root (unless --system is specified)." maybe this problem? |
| 06:06.14 | Xor1ng | try /etc/init.d/pulseaudio start instead pulseaudio -D |
| 06:06.17 | maxagaz | is it possible (and easy) to log at the same time on a ldap account and on a local account ? |
| 06:06.22 | khaije1 | Xor1ng: thats not a problem, just an advisement, pulse is intended to be run as a normal user ie. doesn't need root priv's |
| 06:06.46 | obnauticus | Xor1ng that script doesn't start it ... for some reason |
| 06:07.49 | Xor1ng | it should be start |
| 06:08.06 | obnauticus | (/etc/pulse)-(root@asterisk)--> /etc/init.d/pulseaudio start && ps aux | grep pulse |
| 06:08.06 | obnauticus | root 10021 0.0 0.4 2852 708 pts/0 R+ 22:08 0:00 grep pulse |
| 06:09.22 | Xor1ng | any errors? must be the reason |
| 06:09.29 | obnauticus | looks around |
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| 06:09.34 | Iradieh | Is there a CLI msn (not bitlbee?) |
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| 06:10.00 | nsadmin | bitlbee is not cli? |
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| 06:10.11 | dannz | bitlbee is irc |
| 06:10.12 | khaije1 | obnauticus: it's pretty easy actually, try adding the config to your home folder, stop pulse, make sure no other devices are using alsa, then restart pulse |
| 06:10.16 | Iradieh | I said not BItlbee as in I dont want bitlbee |
| 06:10.20 | dannz | centericq is a cli msn |
| 06:10.27 | dannz | (and yahoo, and icq etc etc) |
| 06:10.31 | Iradieh | gonna try |
| 06:10.32 | Iradieh | thanks |
| 06:10.34 | Iradieh | Anything else |
| 06:10.39 | dannz | not that i know of |
| 06:10.40 | Iradieh | anything you can come up (just msn though) |
| 06:10.42 | dannz | thats the only one ive used |
| 06:10.49 | khaije1 | obnauticus: you can confirm all is well by opening pulse manager and checking the default sink device |
| 06:10.57 | obnauticus | khaije1 no gui. |
| 06:11.23 | khaije1 | then when you play sounds destined for the alsa device it will show as "alsa: appname" |
| 06:11.35 | obnauticus | Nice... |
| 06:11.37 | obnauticus | so...errrrrr |
| 06:11.39 | obnauticus | is confused now |
| 06:11.44 | khaije1 | oh well thats interesting, why are you using pulse in that case? |
| 06:11.48 | obnauticus | where does pulseaudio check fro the config in the home directory. |
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| 06:12.00 | obnauticus | Because asterisk accesses a sound device, and i need to access it with mpg123-alsa at the same time. |
| 06:12.08 | khaije1 | it's ~/.asoundrc |
| 06:12.18 | khaije1 | you'll need to create it, it's not there by default |
| 06:12.37 | obnauticus | I thought that is for alsa :\ |
| 06:12.50 | obnauticus | aight hold on |
| 06:13.09 | obnauticus | ok khaije1 i added it to ~/.asoundrc |
| 06:13.12 | khaije1 | it is :) you are trying to get them to work together, not totally replacing one with another |
| 06:13.38 | obnauticus | what....now :\ |
| 06:13.58 | khaije1 | did you make pulse the default device? |
| 06:14.07 | Xor1ng | obnauticus, try /dev/mixer instead /dev/audio, maybe can help :) |
| 06:14.14 | obnauticus | in ~/.asoundrc . pasted this |
| 06:14.17 | obnauticus | http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup#ALSAApplications |
| 06:14.30 | obnauticus | the first box.... that says `to active the driver edit...` |
| 06:14.40 | khaije1 | i'm wondering if you used all of it, or just the first part |
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| 06:15.05 | obnauticus | all |
| 06:15.13 | sylarr | is there anything I can do to make a snapshot of ext3 ? |
| 06:15.21 | sylarr | without reboot |
| 06:15.24 | sylarr | live |
| 06:15.28 | khaije1 | k, stop pulse, make sure nothing else is using alsa, then restart pulse |
| 06:15.37 | zcat[1] | is there any quick and easy way to add all the nonfree stuff like codecs, flash and dvdcss in debian, eg like medibuntu or ubuntu-restricted-extras ? |
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| 06:15.47 | khaije1 | then try to use alsa sound to test |
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| 06:16.49 | nsadmin | zcat[1] you could try to add non-free to your sources |
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| 06:16.58 | obnauticus | khaije1 the init.d script will not work |
| 06:16.59 | obnauticus | :( |
| 06:17.06 | obnauticus | it doesn't even say anything when i give it no perameters |
| 06:17.06 | nsadmin | why? |
| 06:17.09 | obnauticus | no idea |
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| 06:17.16 | obnauticus | and the pulseaudio daemon will not start |
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| 06:17.24 | khaije1 | don't worry about the init script for now, just say: pulseaudio -k |
| 06:17.26 | zcat[1] | already did that.. there's no metapackage that adds all the commonly wanted stuff then? |
| 06:17.27 | nsadmin | ok, so what you want to do is see where it gets to |
| 06:17.31 | nsadmin | edit the scrip |
| 06:17.37 | khaije1 | make sure it's killed, then say pulseaudio -D |
| 06:17.43 | obnauticus | Feb 22 21:24:13 asterisk pulseaudio[9122]: alsa-util.c: Unable to attach to mixer plughw:0,0: No such file or directory |
| 06:17.47 | nsadmin | stick an echo "I got here" somewhere |
| 06:18.23 | MrHeavy | I just upgraded a Debian Etch VM running on VMware Server 1.x to Lenny and it's not finding the root FS at boot in the new kernel, but the old one still works. From inside initrd's Busybox, "ls /dev/sd* /dev/hd*" doesn't turn up anything but the CD-ROM drive. |
| 06:18.31 | MrHeavy | Is there a solution? Google's been fruitless for me |
| 06:18.39 | MrHeavy | Besides "eh, just convert it to an IDE disk" |
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| 06:18.54 | MrHeavy | I'm running on an emulated LSI controller |
| 06:18.58 | nsadmin | yeah he's right, as long as you're experimenting you can jsut start and the pulsaudio by hand |
| 06:19.06 | nsadmin | err start and stop |
| 06:19.10 | obnauticus | module-detect.c: failed to detect any sound hardware. |
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| 06:19.25 | obnauticus | I think there is something wrong with the module perameters im entering in pulseaudio's configuration |
| 06:19.38 | obnauticus | these are the only two modules im loading: |
| 06:19.39 | obnauticus | load-module module-alsa-sink device=hw:0 |
| 06:19.39 | obnauticus | load-module module-alsa-source device=hw:0 |
| 06:19.53 | sylarr | anyone know ext3cow? |
| 06:19.56 | zcat[1] | next question; ooo3.0 in lenny? |
| 06:20.18 | CaT[t3] | probably via backports |
| 06:20.18 | nsadmin | sylarr: just met him yesterday... any messages? |
| 06:20.41 | khaije1 | can u paste your ~/.asoundrc and /etc/pulse/default.pa to pastebin please? |
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| 06:20.48 | obnauticus | okay |
| 06:21.04 | bg1 | GUYS, I FOUND IT, GOD DAMNED!!! O_O |
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| 06:21.17 | nsadmin | steals IT! |
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| 06:21.33 | nsadmin | looks at IT |
| 06:21.33 | bg1 | OMG! |
| 06:21.37 | zcat[1] | ummm.. lenny-proposed-updates? or do I need to add something to the repo list? |
| 06:21.40 | nsadmin | umm what is IT? |
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| 06:21.49 | obnauticus | khaije1 http://pastebin.ca/1344736 |
| 06:22.14 | Iradieh | Is there a CLI msn for Debian? I dont want to use Bitlbee |
| 06:22.21 | bg1 | I asked about a half-hour in gere about why in Lenny "gksu someapp" opens windows in bacgground! |
| 06:22.30 | khaije1 | btw i think that "soft reset (device not ready)" error i was getting is due to a usb connected sata drive i attached recently. I'll test next time i'm actually in front of that computer again |
| 06:22.31 | bg1 | In was problem not in metacity! |
| 06:22.41 | khaije1 | obnauticus: checking it out now... |
| 06:22.45 | sylarr | nsadmin, did he say if he was reliable? and if he could be used on an existing ext3 partition? |
| 06:22.52 | nsadmin | Iradieh: more information. you were given some alternatives. when you tried them, what happened? |
| 06:23.08 | bg1 | It is in gconf-editor -> /apps/gksu option "sudo-mode" turns "true" |
| 06:23.13 | Iradieh | nsadmin: I cant find them in rep |
| 06:23.41 | Iradieh | nsadmin: I was given _ONE_ alternative |
| 06:23.51 | nsadmin | could you show me cat /etc/debian_version and pastebin your sources.list |
| 06:24.12 | bg1 | Now i have another question, you guys... What the heck with command-not-found in Lenny?! |
| 06:24.16 | Iradieh | nsadmin: no it's standard |
| 06:24.17 | Iradieh | seivan@subby:~$ cat /etc/debian_version |
| 06:24.17 | Iradieh | 5.0 |
| 06:24.29 | nsadmin | still want to see it |
| 06:24.41 | xoz_ | bg1: why not use gksudo? |
| 06:25.05 | xoz_ | bg1: enable /etc/bash_completion |
| 06:25.13 | bg1 | xoz_: where have you been earlier?! (: |
| 06:25.22 | Iradieh | Where is configure: error: ssl.h not found in |
| 06:25.26 | Iradieh | Where is ssl.h ? |
| 06:25.33 | khaije1 | obnauticus: did you change the default.pa file or just the .asoundrc ? |
| 06:25.38 | nsadmin | openssl-dev? |
| 06:25.43 | Iradieh | nsadmin: No it doesnt matter, I was g iven centerim as alternative I downloaded it,. and I cant start it.. dunno what it's name is to start it |
| 06:25.47 | sylarr | is it possible to upgrade ext3 to ext3cow? |
| 06:25.49 | Iradieh | nsadmin: Where is it located? |
| 06:25.51 | khaije1 | you may want to add the default setting in .asoundrc |
| 06:25.54 | bg1 | xoz_: i just used to using gksu in ubuntu and don't knew about gksudo |
| 06:25.56 | xoz_ | bg1: enable bash_completion by uncommenting it in /etc/bash.bashrc |
| 06:25.57 | obnauticus | khaije1 I changed both.... hold on |
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| 06:26.11 | nsadmin | maybe nowhere if you haven't installed it... |
| 06:26.13 | xoz_ | bg1: why not use a terminal and run sudo? |
| 06:26.20 | Iradieh | nsadmin: I GOT IT |
| 06:26.23 | Iradieh | nsadmin: IT IS INSTALLED |
| 06:26.24 | Iradieh | jeez |
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| 06:26.32 | khaije1 | obnauticus: you don't need to change default.pa (hal takes care of this for you) |
| 06:26.35 | nsadmin | so why are you asking about ssl.h? |
| 06:26.42 | Iradieh | nsadmin: Wheere is it located |
| 06:26.44 | Iradieh | god you are slow |
| 06:26.44 | bg1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:26.44 | obnauticus | khaije1 what do i need to modify then :| |
| 06:26.56 | khaije1 | obnauticus: only the .asoundrc |
| 06:27.00 | xoz_ | bg1: what command? |
| 06:27.11 | obnauticus | khaije1 how do i restore the default one lol |
| 06:27.14 | obnauticus | default.pa |
| 06:27.19 | khaije1 | (with the default "pcm.!default " part |
| 06:27.23 | bg1 | xoz_: I mean, completion itself works, but search in packets - didn't |
| 06:27.29 | nsadmin | I don't personally know... you're not willing to provide information asked, so I wish you the best of luck |
| 06:27.34 | xoz_ | bg1: you need to run an new shell for it after the changes. |
| 06:27.46 | xoz_ | bg1: what packets? |
| 06:27.46 | maxagaz | how to apt-cache among installed packages ? |
| 06:27.46 | khaije1 | obnauticus: you can just comment out your changes if you like |
| 06:27.57 | maxagaz | apt-cache search i mean |
| 06:27.58 | obnauticus | khaije1 the problem is i forogt what my changes are |
| 06:27.58 | xoz_ | bg1: tell us what are you doing |
| 06:28.11 | bg1 | xoz_: ok, wait... |
| 06:28.26 | obnauticus | also when i just try to run `pulseaudio` i get this: http://pastebin.ca/1344740 |
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| 06:29.23 | Iradieh | How do I change the rights on everything in a folder to my user, (I moved some old backup files) |
| 06:29.33 | obnauticus | khaije1 no users are using the pcm device hw:0 |
| 06:29.38 | simeon_ | Iradieh: chown -R |
| 06:29.39 | bg1 | xoz_: when i'm typing some command, name of programm, that i haven't installed yet, ubuntu told me: "this packet is not installed, you can find it in foobar packet, write 'apt-get install foobar'", right? |
| 06:29.44 | simeon_ | or chmod -R |
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| 06:30.17 | nsadmin | and be careful with that. read up in their man pages (don't say we didn't warn you :P ) |
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| 06:30.22 | xoz_ | bg1: if it is not installed, you can use apt-file search foobar |
| 06:30.45 | xoz_ | bg1: or dpkg -S foobar |
| 06:31.03 | bg1 | xoz_: but in lenny, i enabled completion, but searching didn't work, cus it requires some packet "commant-no-found", right? |
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| 06:31.21 | somedude | just did a fresh install of 5.0 on another pc |
| 06:31.26 | somedude | very nice |
| 06:31.30 | bg1 | xoz_: and Lenny repos didn't have it, only SID does. Am i right? |
| 06:31.38 | xoz_ | bg1: if the program is not there, bash_completion wont find it. |
| 06:31.49 | xoz_ | bg1: check first with apt-file |
| 06:31.59 | xoz_ | !tell bg1 -about search |
| 06:32.00 | somedude | open source flash works by default thats crazy |
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| 06:32.31 | bg1 | xoz_: Check this out: http://packages.debian.org/en/sid/command-not-found |
| 06:32.34 | nsadmin | so it's crazy that we beat adobe at their own game? |
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| 06:33.17 | khaije1 | obnauticus: i'm pretty certain you can just comment out the entries you changed... looks like these |
| 06:33.19 | khaije1 | # load-module module-alsa-sink device=hw:0 # load-module module-alsa-source device=hw:0 |
| 06:33.21 | bg1 | xoz_: i know about apt-cache, but i want ubuntu-like behavior... Can you give me advice? |
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| 06:33.49 | bg1 | xoz_: Need i compile this "command-not-found" packet myself in lenny to get this work? |
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| 06:33.50 | nsadmin | use ubuntu? |
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| 06:33.55 | obnauticus | khaije1 so basically i should just use these: load-module module-alsa-sink device=plughw:0,0 |
| 06:33.56 | obnauticus | load-module module-alsa-source device=plughw:0,0 |
| 06:33.56 | obnauticus | load-module module-native-protocol-tcp listen=127.0.0.1 |
| 06:34.01 | nsadmin | ask on #ubuntu too in that case? |
| 06:34.06 | batcoder-7 | how can i make my usb thumbdrives not just readonly ? |
| 06:34.09 | xoz_ | bg1: /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 06:34.11 | batcoder-7 | thsiis driving me nuts |
| 06:34.38 | batcoder-7 | it gets automounted in the first place |
| 06:34.49 | batcoder-7 | i want it to be read and write |
| 06:35.08 | obnauticus | khaije1 can you ssh to this thing and help me |
| 06:35.12 | obnauticus | it's...teh fail |
| 06:35.15 | obnauticus | lol |
| 06:35.47 | batcoder-7 | any help here would be great |
| 06:35.49 | rhodescus | batcoder-7: try unmounting them and fscking them, then mount them again. |
| 06:35.58 | batcoder-7 | fscking? |
| 06:36.02 | khaije1 | obnauticus: i think you're worrying about this more than you need to actually, the devices are mostly autodetected with hal, this section is a 'just in case you got something weird' section |
| 06:36.09 | rhodescus | batcoder-7: man fsck |
| 06:36.16 | batcoder-7 | i don't want to auto mount them or i want them to be read / write from the get go |
| 06:36.20 | obnauticus | khaije1 it's not starting though lol |
| 06:36.21 | khaije1 | i not allowed to from where i am at the moment :-[ |
| 06:36.23 | obnauticus | even with the default config |
| 06:36.28 | batcoder-7 | its a usb thumbdrive' |
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| 06:36.38 | rhodescus | batcoder-7: they may be read-only because of errors on the drive. |
| 06:36.47 | bg1 | xoz_: Thank You for a nice tour in packege- searching tools! But.. i just whant ubuntu-like... :'( |
| 06:37.02 | batcoder-7 | ah damn there is errors |
| 06:37.12 | sylarr | do I need to do anything special to my kernel to use LVM2? |
| 06:37.18 | obnauticus | khaije1 well look at this: http://pastebin.ca/1344744 |
| 06:37.24 | obnauticus | i don't know what to think of it lol |
| 06:38.26 | khaije1 | obnauticus: try changing both configs to this http://pastebin.ca/1344745 |
| 06:39.01 | khaije1 | it's actually pretty sensible from a bird's eye view |
| 06:39.11 | nomingzi | I am installing a program (gcc compiler) using aptitude command and it prompt me to insert the CD, but i don't have it. How do I configure it so that aptitude will get it from online repo or something else? please advise. |
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| 06:39.37 | pl4yer0ne | nomingzi, edit your sources and take out the cd line |
| 06:39.44 | khaije1 | sylarr: lvm2 is included in the lenny kernel by default |
| 06:40.18 | pl4yer0ne | and you do that by running "Software Sources" in the admin menu |
| 06:40.37 | obnauticus | khaije1 nope. |
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| 06:40.53 | khaije1 | did yuo try stopping and restarting pulse? |
| 06:41.01 | obnauticus | itw asn't started |
| 06:41.05 | obnauticus | so ya, it reparsed the config. |
| 06:41.13 | obnauticus | however this time puleaudio started |
| 06:41.17 | obnauticus | i just get an error from mpg123-alsa |
| 06:41.21 | obnauticus | initialize_device(): cannot set period size |
| 06:41.21 | obnauticus | audio: No such file or directory |
| 06:41.29 | khaije1 | obnauticus: btw, why are you insterested in pluse on a headless machine, i've always thought of it as desktop software |
| 06:41.32 | obnauticus | /dev/audio does exist :\ |
| 06:41.49 | obnauticus | khaije1 i need to be able to have duplexed access to a sound card. |
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| 06:42.05 | obnauticus | i.e. have one process reading from it, and another outputting audio |
| 06:42.13 | obnauticus | alsa doesn't have any way that I know of to do that |
| 06:42.40 | khaije1 | doesn't dmix do this? |
| 06:42.44 | pl4yer0ne | obnauticus, couldnt you just pipe the device? |
| 06:42.50 | obnauticus | no idea |
| 06:43.01 | obnauticus | that's what im doing with an audio server i.e. pulseaudio |
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| 06:44.02 | nsadmin | I'm about to do a dist upgrade t0 lenny on the laptop... should I install dpkg and aptitude first? |
| 06:44.30 | JordiGH | dpkg has to be installed. |
| 06:44.30 | dpkg | JordiGH: are you using Windows? |
| 06:44.39 | JordiGH | Oh, shush, you silly bot. |
| 06:44.48 | JordiGH | nsadmin: aptitude yes, did you read the release notes? |
| 06:44.53 | obnauticus | khaije1 okay, I have the daemon running in the background, and i am trying to use mpg123 and it are fail |
| 06:44.54 | obnauticus | :( |
| 06:44.56 | JordiGH | !release notes |
| 06:44.56 | dpkg | hmm... lenny release notes is at http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/releasenotes . See also http://bugs.debian.org/release-notes and http://wiki.debian.org/NewInLenny . Also ask about <i-g>, <installer firmware>, or <etch->lenny key> |
| 06:45.01 | nsadmin | not yet |
| 06:45.03 | khaije1 | o make sure yuo have libasound2-pulse installed also |
| 06:45.04 | xoz_ | bg1: !tell bg1 -about simple sid backport |
| 06:45.28 | JordiGH | nsadmin: read them carefully. It should be a mostly straightforward upgrade, but read section 4 carefully first. |
| 06:45.37 | xoz_ | bg1: you can install command-not-found in sid using that factoid. |
| 06:45.42 | bg1 | xoz_: sorry, what? |
| 06:46.13 | bg1 | xoz_: Sorry, what disto you are using? |
| 06:46.30 | pl4yer0ne | obnauticus, there is a mpg123-pulse or something similar isnt there? |
| 06:46.44 | obnauticus | dunno...is there? |
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| 06:47.20 | khaije1 | obnauticus: i would try to see if pulse is working properly... try installed a sound app with a pulse plugin such as vlc-plugin-pulse xmms2-plugin-pulse |
| 06:47.41 | obnauticus | what's a cli based one ? |
| 06:48.00 | sylarr | khaije1, i have etch still |
| 06:48.10 | bg1 | CLI = command line interface? |
| 06:48.12 | obnauticus | khaije1 it works. |
| 06:48.19 | obnauticus | it doesn't sound right, though. |
| 06:48.23 | obnauticus | it sounds like whitenoise... i used aplay |
| 06:48.31 | obnauticus | aplay -Dpulse /home/astircomm/example1.mp3 |
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| 06:48.57 | obnauticus | Unsigned 8 bit, Rate 8000 Hz, Mono |
| 06:48.58 | obnauticus | :\ |
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| 06:49.11 | khaije1 | sylarr: i haven't used etch so im not sure, but it's been around for a while |
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| 06:50.14 | xoz_ | bg1: just follow the dokg |
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| 06:50.32 | khaije1 | obnauticus: hmm.... |
| 06:50.40 | obnauticus | I just installed libao and libao2 |
| 06:50.44 | obnauticus | gonna see what that does for me |
| 06:50.46 | khaije1 | the alsa device isn't working? |
| 06:50.51 | obnauticus | i don't think so |
| 06:50.54 | khaije1 | i mean aplay using alsa |
| 06:50.54 | obnauticus | mpg123-alsa is failing. |
| 06:50.58 | bg1 | xoz_: are you on sid? |
| 06:50.59 | obnauticus | oh hold |
| 06:51.15 | obnauticus | khaije1 ALSA lib pcm.c:2143:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM alsa |
| 06:51.38 | khaije1 | err... does aplay support mp3 lol |
| 06:51.46 | sameerynho | how does linux make a terminal in ttyX? |
| 06:51.51 | khaije1 | i don't think it does |
| 06:51.51 | batcoder-7 | still amazed why i cant write on my thumb stick |
| 06:51.58 | khaije1 | that may explain the noise |
| 06:53.37 | obnauticus | khaije1 it worked with a wav okl |
| 06:53.55 | obnauticus | khaije1 for my programs that are written for alsa, how should i interface them |
| 06:54.06 | obnauticus | it's asking for output_device=hw:0,0 |
| 06:54.52 | khaije1 | thats what the .asoundrc is specifically supposed to do for you... hmm... did you copy the .asoundrc from http://pastebin.ca/1344745 ? |
| 06:54.59 | obnauticus | yes. |
| 06:55.24 | khaije1 | with a dot in front in your home directory of the user you are running the server as? |
| 06:55.44 | obnauticus | yes. |
| 06:55.58 | khaije1 | meant to say: with a dot in front, in your home directory of the user you are running the server as? |
| 06:56.11 | obnauticus | ya, it is in my hoem directotry with the name `.asoundrc` |
| 06:56.31 | khaije1 | can you paste the file contents so i can see? |
| 06:56.32 | obnauticus | khaije1 this is a configuration for asterisk to use alsa |
| 06:56.47 | khaije1 | oooo it's a pbx box? |
| 06:56.50 | obnauticus | ya |
| 06:56.58 | obnauticus | im trying to get pulseaudio on asterisk too |
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| 06:58.12 | xoz_ | bg1: just dpkg info |
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| 06:58.40 | obnauticus | khaije1 here |
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| 06:59.18 | khaije1 | obnauticus: hmm? i'm reading about what asterix uses for sound |
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| 06:59.35 | obnauticus | khaije1 you can use alsa |
| 06:59.43 | obnauticus | most of the time it uses dummy devices, though |
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| 07:00.43 | obnauticus | khaije1 it's saying the device or resource is busy |
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| 07:00.50 | obnauticus | khaije1: http://pastebin.ca/1344755 |
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| 07:01.55 | khaije1 | i think the alsa->pulse bridge is broken... |
| 07:02.03 | obnauticus | fsck |
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| 07:02.14 | obnauticus | well...how can I tell? |
| 07:02.24 | obnauticus | also, is there any way for me to connect to the pulse devices in real time on a windows box? |
| 07:02.29 | obnauticus | I saw that you could connect to it over the network or something. |
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| 07:03.03 | obnauticus | Because that would work for my purposes |
| 07:03.09 | maxagaz | as soon as enter the login, it returns 'incorrect login', what wrong with my system ? |
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| 07:03.15 | obnauticus | im just taking advantage of asterisk's real time capibilties to stream real-time audio |
| 07:04.38 | khaije1 | i'm not totally sure but i know that you can do sound from unixboxen -> winboxen , not sure about the other way |
| 07:04.50 | obnauticus | well ya |
| 07:05.02 | obnauticus | i want to stream the audio in real time from unixboxen -> winboxen |
| 07:05.53 | obnauticus | OH GOD |
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| 07:06.26 | obnauticus | khaije1 do you think that it is a configuration error, also if i configure this correctly can I have multiple applications access the same device at the same time? |
| 07:06.31 | khaije1 | you can export the pulse stream to mtp then just point an audio player to it from whatever computer you wan |
| 07:06.33 | khaije1 | want |
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| 07:08.05 | khaije1 | pulse has very good gui tools to set that up so i've never needed to do it from command line so i don't know how exactly |
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| 07:08.18 | obnauticus | is itr possible in the gui? |
| 07:08.26 | khaije1 | ya dude |
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| 07:08.51 | khaije1 | you can always do a ssh -X into the asterix box |
| 07:09.11 | khaije1 | from another unix machine that is |
| 07:09.42 | obnauticus | meh, i don't have X installed on it |
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| 07:10.00 | batcoder-7 | anyone hrer ever use winrar with linux ? |
| 07:10.11 | batcoder-7 | it says my extracts failed |
| 07:10.15 | obnauticus | khaije1 how does it use pulseaudio? |
| 07:10.39 | khaije1 | obnauticus: eh? |
| 07:10.41 | obnauticus | like... how do applications use pulseaudio...they connect to the pulseaudio server and then the server manages the connection between the application and the device. |
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| 07:11.09 | batcoder-7 | this is nuts |
| 07:12.00 | obnauticus | khaije1 asterisk is asking what ALSA device it should use, meanwhile wheh the alsa module is loaded in asterisk it says the device is in use :| |
| 07:12.01 | khaije1 | pulse is an abstraction layer, ya what you said is pretty right |
| 07:12.19 | obnauticus | [2009-02-22 23:12:13] ERROR[11163]: chan_alsa.c:368 alsa_card_init: snd_pcm_open failed: Device or resource busy |
| 07:12.20 | sladi | batcoder-7: Do you really need winrar? Maybe 7zip works. |
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| 07:17.36 | khaije1 | can asterix use oss? i'm still readin but give that a try |
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| 07:18.57 | obnauticus | ya it was using oss |
| 07:19.00 | obnauticus | but it didn't work either |
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| 07:19.17 | obnauticus | the goal is to have both asterisk and mpg123 access the audio device at the same time. |
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| 07:19.19 | khaije1 | does it give you a device option? if so try pcm.pulse |
| 07:20.07 | obnauticus | [2009-02-22 23:19:56] NOTICE[11202]: chan_oss.c:1046 oss_request: Device oss not found |
| 07:20.08 | obnauticus | :| |
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| 07:21.45 | obnauticus | khaije1 [2009-02-22 23:21:36] WARNING[11268]: chan_oss.c:448 find_desc: could not find <oss> |
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| 07:22.27 | bullgard4 | What is the preferrred GUI audio conference program? |
| 07:24.22 | JordiGH | conference? |
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| 07:24.32 | JordiGH | I think ekiga can only do 1-1 calls. :-/ |
| 07:24.46 | obnauticus | khaije1 if you know of a way that i can stream my line-in over my network in real time and have another application access it at the same time...then let me know because I have no idea |
| 07:24.46 | obnauticus | :( |
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| 07:26.51 | mischief- | bullgard4: skype? |
| 07:28.41 | obnauticus | this is really pissing me off :( |
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| 07:31.39 | bullgard4 | mischief-: No. skype is propriety. |
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| 07:42.38 | XaeroOne | teamspeak should work, i think it is free as well but closed source if that's not a problem |
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| 07:43.26 | tersas | Does anyone know the non-free apt source for Debian 5.0 ? |
| 07:43.29 | XaeroOne | btw how can you check hard drive read/write speeds in linux? |
| 07:43.37 | tersas | Does anyone know the non-free apt source for Debian 5.0 ? (Swedish Mirror) |
| 07:44.50 | tersas | jesus christ |
| 07:44.53 | tersas | this channel is dead |
| 07:45.16 | tomodachi | my patience with you is dead |
| 07:45.37 | tersas | hehe |
| 07:45.41 | tersas | http://ftp.us.debian.org/dists/lenny/ <- doesnt work (Dead link) |
| 07:45.44 | tomodachi | im sure that if someone knows they would respond |
| 07:45.50 | bkruse1 | Hey guys, we just had to pull the drives out of a raid 1 server, and put them back in an hour later (after testing), however, they won't boot, and when we fdisk either one of the drives, the ext3 partition shows up as "Swap/Linux (146Gig)" Any idea? I just need to pull of one mysql table :/ |
| 07:46.53 | tersas | tomodachi: You know, please just check your sources |
| 07:47.03 | tersas | Can someone please check their sources and give me the non-free adress |
| 07:47.03 | tvaal | http://ftp.se.debian.org/debian/ |
| 07:47.11 | tersas | tvaal: but how do I get non free |
| 07:47.25 | tomodachi | tersas: actually if i knew i would tell you, im using ubuntu and debian 4.0 still |
| 07:47.37 | tvaal | lenny main non-free contrib |
| 07:47.41 | tvaal | Add that after. |
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| 07:49.02 | tersas | Wikipedia said: debian lenny main contrib non-free after |
| 07:49.08 | tersas | (but it was wrong) |
| 07:49.09 | tersas | Thanks tvaal |
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| 07:50.01 | tersas | Whats the name of the "huge package" of non-free stuff. You know the one with codecs and sun-java, and fonts ? |
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| 07:59.27 | kunal | hello. |
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| 08:00.17 | kunal | i need to know how to set up password on my wireless router |
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| 08:02.37 | sepski | kunal, and you ask in #debian becouse... ? |
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| 08:06.29 | kunal | sepski- because debain ppl are the nicest ppl in the world |
| 08:06.39 | kunal | unlike microsoft stingy idiots |
| 08:06.55 | kunal | anyways i am searching online how to add a password |
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| 08:07.08 | kunal | my intenret connection is just slow. maxes at 12 kbps. |
| 08:07.15 | sepski | kunal, haha i think we must have lost our reputation of beeing eliteistbastards :) |
| 08:07.43 | sepski | just find your router vendors page. and download the userguide. its in there |
| 08:08.04 | kunal | hahahaha.sepski. yes i think you guys have lost that elitebastard image |
| 08:08.17 | kunal | my brother used to tell me that debian loosers are just a bunch of wankers who thin kthey know it all. |
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| 08:08.29 | pringat | hi there, I have just rm -r a very important directory of my hdd on an ext3 crypt partition, is there any chance to recover it? |
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| 08:09.08 | sepski | pringat, yes you copy it back from your backups |
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| 08:09.44 | kunal | sepski. is it possible to install debian via network? |
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| 08:10.06 | sepski | kunal, ofcourse. |
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| 08:10.28 | Setebos | a 12bps, installing debian is a matter of 3 months |
| 08:10.43 | cydork | !ops manken__21f is on-join spambot |
| 08:10.43 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: cydork complains about: manken__21f is on-join spambot |
| 08:11.19 | pringat | sepski: thanks, but of course, there is no backup |
| 08:11.31 | pringat | sepski: thanks anyway... |
| 08:11.43 | kunal | sepski:- so its possible for me to connect my laptop to the ethernet port and start a download? |
| 08:11.56 | kunal | and install a debain OS? |
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| 08:13.09 | pringat | sepski: BTW of course if I had had a backup I woudn't ask my question here |
| 08:13.35 | sepski | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:14.10 | Setebos | kunal you have to boot an netinstall cd image first, a small iso image to download from debian |
| 08:14.32 | sepski | i have booted d-i from pxe (nice when you want individual installs) or you can use fai, nice when you have many alike. or you controll all |
| 08:14.41 | Setebos | there is also i think a boot usb image |
| 08:14.43 | kunal | ok. thanks |
| 08:14.45 | kunal | thank :) |
| 08:15.20 | sepski | pringat, type /msg dpkg undelete , and read all the factoids it references |
| 08:15.23 | sepski | good luck |
| 08:16.21 | sepski | kunal, of if you have a od on the machine you can use the goodbye-microsoft.com or if you have a nix you cn add debian-installer to grub. |
| 08:16.33 | sepski | but cd/usb is easier if you have that option |
| 08:16.45 | kunal | whats od? |
| 08:16.59 | kunal | od= optical density? |
| 08:17.18 | sepski | os with typo |
| 08:17.23 | kunal | oh ok. sorry |
| 08:17.33 | sepski | the keyboard on this eee is soo darn tiny |
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| 08:17.47 | kunal | i have an OS but only till CMD safe mode. |
| 08:18.04 | sepski | boot using cd or usb then |
| 08:18.12 | pringat | sepski: ok thanks |
| 08:18.41 | kunal | i think 1st i'll need to install netinstall |
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| 08:19.23 | kunal | going to run a safemode in windows xp command prompt. will try to install netinstall from here |
| 08:19.23 | kunal | there |
| 08:19.28 | Rat409 | manken__21f is an adbot fwiw |
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| 08:29.11 | bkruse | Is it possible to grep through a hard drive? (eg /dev/sda) ? |
| 08:29.19 | bkruse | For text strings or something similar? |
| 08:29.55 | Internat | Gday All, im playing with the new package apache2-suexec-custom.. Ive put my logs at http://pastebin.linode.com/2165 . For some reason its not accepting the docroot and im not sure why. Am i missing something simple? |
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| 08:34.48 | prxtien | hey all, in bash script is there a variable for ALL user input as opposed to $1 $2 for each input |
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| 08:35.37 | nsadmin | docroot exists? |
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| 08:39.06 | prxtien | thanks mate |
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| 08:43.39 | sd32 | are the debian live servers down? |
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| 08:44.49 | l403 | hello. I use Deb 4.0. I got a bit confuced lately which repositories I should use. weather the stable or etch after the address in sources.list |
| 08:44.54 | l403 | *confused |
| 08:45.14 | l403 | ..beacuse I hhave seen some forum threds where the stable was used instead of etch, so I have switched from stable but now the update notifier shows alot of updates. Some packages arer marked for upgrade and some for rermoval and some for installation and those list dont match. I did not let it updeta yet as I have already screwed up debian befor by messing with repositories |
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| 08:46.27 | Kamping_Kaiser | l403, if you want to keep running 4.0, use 'etch' in your sources.list |
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| 08:47.10 | sd32 | everytime i try to download debian live i get a "connection to the servers was reset while th page was loading "error |
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| 08:47.43 | sameerynho | does debmirror support resuming? |
| 08:48.26 | Kamping_Kaiser | sameerynho, yes. i think per file as well |
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| 08:48.42 | Kamping_Kaiser | (look at /mirror/path/.temp/ to check) |
| 08:49.09 | l403 | Kamping_Kaiser: well, I dont think I have a reason to keep running 4.0 |
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| 08:50.04 | sameerynho | Kamping_Kaiser: i have local repo for 4 day before lenny release . it have stable and testing . if i update the stable then does it change to lenny? |
| 08:50.06 | Kamping_Kaiser | l403, if you dont mind upgrading to 5.0 you can leave 'stable' there |
| 08:50.28 | Kamping_Kaiser | sameerynho, yes. |
| 08:51.20 | sameerynho | Kamping_Kaiser: what a bout testing does it lenny know ? |
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| 08:51.54 | Kamping_Kaiser | sameerynho, squeeze is testing now |
| 08:51.59 | pluesch0r | morning everyone! |
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| 08:52.18 | sd32 | are the debian live servers down? |
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| 08:52.54 | pluesch0r | i'm trying to use some pci modem card (HSP PCtel) with my debian etch installation. i've never had to install a modem before, so i'm a bit stumped. do i need to compile my own kernel modules for this one? |
| 08:53.04 | sameerynho | Kamping_Kaiser: does squeeze the code name of next release of debian? |
| 08:53.18 | Kamping_Kaiser | sd32, seems to be there, why do you ask? |
| 08:53.34 | Kamping_Kaiser | sameerynho, yes |
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| 08:53.58 | Gipnotek | Environment variables are saved in /etc/environment. But how to save my own variables if I don't have root priviledges? |
| 08:54.23 | sameerynho | Kamping_Kaiser: can i remove old stable in my repo and copy the testing dir as stable and update them? |
| 08:54.36 | Kamping_Kaiser | Gipnotek, perhaps ~/.bashrc or ~/.profile |
| 08:54.45 | sd32 | Kamping_Kaiser, because everytime i try to download the distro it gives me a "the connnection was reset while the page was loading" error message |
| 08:55.06 | Kamping_Kaiser | sameerynho, yes, i guess you could. might take a bit of room while you copy things around though |
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| 08:55.44 | sameerynho | Kamping_Kaiser: room? |
| 08:55.53 | Kamping_Kaiser | sd32, i dont have enough bandwidth to do a test download i'm afraid. i'll have to take your word for it. do you have a proxy of some sort which could be causing issues? |
| 08:56.02 | sd32 | nope |
| 08:56.20 | Kamping_Kaiser | sameerynho, yes, hard disk space. |
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| 08:56.39 | sd32 | Kamping_Kaiser, no |
| 08:56.45 | sameerynho | Kamping_Kaiser: ah , thanks for helping |
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| 08:57.50 | sd32 | Kamping_Kaiser, the download dosent even start |
| 08:57.59 | Gipnotek | Kamping_Kaiser, can you explain how please |
| 08:58.15 | Gipnotek | do I put variables as commands there? |
| 08:58.23 | Gipnotek | X=Y |
| 08:58.38 | Kamping_Kaiser | sd32, :/ i cant help much i'm afraid. although it does seem that cdimage.debian.org is awol itself (not debian-live) |
| 08:58.50 | Kamping_Kaiser | sameerynho, no worries |
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| 08:59.17 | Kamping_Kaiser | Gipnotek, you add a line like "export $PATH=$PATH:$PWD" (For example) |
| 08:59.26 | sd32 | Kamping_Kaiser, thanks ill try again tomorrow |
| 08:59.54 | Kamping_Kaiser | sd32, gl :) |
| 09:00.00 | sd32 | :) |
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| 09:01.38 | sd32 | hmmm.wonder if theres a live torrent |
| 09:02.10 | l403 | !gpg |
| 09:02.10 | dpkg | hmm... gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard, a free public-key encryption program available , now in main . or http://www.gnupg.org, but apt-get install gnupg |
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| 09:05.32 | adarana | hello, anyone knows how can i make logcheck send mails only when something wrong happens and not just send me the log every 2 hours ? |
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| 09:07.35 | sd32 | which is better debian kde or gnome? |
| 09:07.58 | ubd | hi. when my bothers open his vista pc, i wany my pc to stop downloading. and when he shuts his pc down. i want my pc to start dowloading again. |
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| 09:12.09 | l403 | I'm sorry I cant find pgp key for debian stable repository |
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| 09:16.31 | simonrvn | l403: hkp://subkeys.pgp.net ; /msg dpkg apt-key KEYID |
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| 09:17.00 | SlayerXP | morning |
| 09:17.03 | simonrvn | hi |
| 09:17.11 | Eulex | l403, apt-get install debian-archive-keyring |
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| 09:19.31 | simonrvn | even better ;) |
| 09:19.37 | kunal113 | is there a difference in WEP and WPA? |
| 09:19.47 | l403 | thanx guys |
| 09:19.53 | Eulex | kunal113, yes. |
| 09:20.02 | l403 | very yes |
| 09:20.04 | SlayerXP | kunal113: echo WEP > 1; echo WPA 2; diff -u 1 2 |
| 09:20.09 | SlayerXP | bah |
| 09:20.11 | SlayerXP | > 2 |
| 09:20.16 | Eulex | ^^ |
| 09:21.34 | l403 | WEP can be done in few minutes, WPA allmost can't at all |
| 09:21.50 | l403 | but there is a WPA shutdown tool |
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| 09:22.38 | ubd | hello can someone help me to write a command script? |
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| 09:24.47 | sd32 | is md5 still good to check distros with? |
| 09:25.13 | ubd | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:26.11 | l403 | when I am changing from etch to stable, I should use the dist-upgrade option? |
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| 09:27.17 | kunal113 | ok. so best is WPA |
| 09:27.20 | kunal113 | thanks ) |
| 09:27.37 | l403 | well best is SSH probably |
| 09:27.54 | kunal113 | SSH is too advanced. |
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| 09:34.36 | yuri_ | Are the new lenny 5 live images maintained by Debian, or are these 3rd party? |
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| 09:39.20 | loddar47 | is it possible to make a update from 2.6.18-kanotix-2 (etch) to lenny without a new installation? |
| 09:40.04 | simonrvn | kanotix is not etch |
| 09:40.05 | Dewi | loddar47: kanotix is not etch |
| 09:40.25 | simonrvn | Dewi: jinx :P |
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| 09:40.39 | sepski | loddar47, from etch yes, but you are not running etch :) |
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| 09:41.06 | liable | hmm, do i upgrade now and break my box before i go away for two weeks, or break it later.. |
| 09:41.21 | loddar47 | thx |
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| 09:44.17 | debian_noob | Hi |
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| 09:44.51 | debian_noob | i have downloaded the lenny iso |
| 09:45.07 | simonrvn | liable: later, you get to chill; now, but it'll be out of the way, but might also add stress. |
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| 09:45.38 | sameerynho | Kamping_Kaiser: hi my friend . i have repo for 4 day before lenny release . it have stable and testing . how can i separate them |
| 09:45.49 | debian_noob | the iso file is of 600 something mb |
| 09:45.58 | debian_noob | i have a 2gb flashdrive |
| 09:45.59 | liable | simonrvn: i must have upgraded recently which i forgot about, or a mirror is broken, because it was miniscule with mostly dmo stuff. i'm a bit confused |
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| 09:46.09 | yuri_ | debian_noob, Use the net-boot initrd, and setup syslinux on your flash drive, would be the easiest way to do it |
| 09:46.13 | liable | ah, there it goes |
| 09:46.33 | debian_noob | yuri_whats net-boot initrd |
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| 09:46.58 | simonrvn | liable: hrm |
| 09:47.24 | debian_noob | syslinux |
| 09:47.25 | yuri_ | It's a small filesystem used to initiate the installer, under 20mb in size. You will need syslinux though |
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| 09:48.28 | ubd | i want an application only to use eth1 and not use eth0 how can i do this |
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| 09:49.03 | yuri_ | ubd, depends on the application. |
| 09:49.13 | ubd | its toorentflux |
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| 09:49.35 | debian_noob | yuri_:under 20 mb?? the iso is of 650 mb |
| 09:50.09 | yuri_ | Yeah, under 20mb I believe. It downloads the installation files from a mirror of your choice |
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| 09:50.16 | milligan_ | in dhcp server, can I define a range, "range 192.168.1.100 192.168.1.200;" , and then add a host, "host test { hardware ethernet 00:02:c3:d0:e5:83; fixed-address 192.168.0.120;}" .. and expect that to work? Or will the dhcp server complain that I have defined a static ip that's already defined in a pool ? |
| 09:51.12 | loddar47 | bye |
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| 09:51.24 | yuri_ | ubd, it's going to use the interface that is used to reach your default route |
| 09:51.27 | debian_noob | yuri_:cant i use the iso file i downloaded? |
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| 09:52.20 | yuri_ | You can, but it will be difficult to setup, since it has the isolinux bootloader and the installer will be looking for cdrom drive for the installation files |
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| 09:53.40 | ubd | yuri_, how about this : i want eth0 to be used only by for file tranfer (samba) and nothing else |
| 09:53.53 | debian_noob | yuri_:do you know how to? |
| 09:55.22 | bogard | ahoi, is there a standard way to defer automounting usb-devices via fstab in debian? it seems the LABEL-entry in my fstab cannot be resolved on first attempt since the usb device has not become ready up to then |
| 09:55.56 | yuri_ | ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/main/installer-i386/current/images/hd-media/ |
| 09:55.58 | yuri_ | use that |
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| 09:56.46 | simonrvn | bogard: wrapper script with a sleep 5 in it? there might be a way that's already documented in usbmount |
| 09:56.56 | greldinard | i was just installing lenny on a server with two broadcom nics. during install i was asked to insert a media with the firmware. i did insert one with exactly the file wanted - but the kernel module could not be inserted :( any idea? |
| 09:57.17 | tomodachi | greldinard: did the syslog give you any hints? |
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| 09:58.15 | QWonder | are there seperate releases of 5.0 for powerpc-of and powerpc-mac? |
| 09:58.25 | dalfz | what platform should i download for intel quad core cpu's? |
| 09:58.49 | dalfz | is amd64 for amd's only? |
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| 09:59.09 | Chousuke | no, it works for 64-bit intel chips as well. |
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| 09:59.43 | greldinard | tomodachi: no i didn't have much time - so i installed etch - that worked - but i would prefer to install lenny |
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| 10:00.01 | tomodachi | ok |
| 10:00.03 | simonrvn | QWonder: -of being? |
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| 10:00.06 | debian_noob | yuri:the url you gave contains only a few files |
| 10:00.08 | dalfz | ok, so i should get the amd64 installation CD for intel quad cores? |
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| 10:00.20 | debian_noob | yuri_:cant i use the iso i have? |
| 10:00.20 | plazia | what's the little curses based program you run to add http sources and things to apt? |
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| 10:00.21 | simonrvn | dalfz: yes |
| 10:00.34 | QWonder | simonrvn: of being openfirmware |
| 10:00.35 | yuri_ | debian_noob yes you can |
| 10:00.48 | dalfz | thanks |
| 10:00.57 | simonrvn | i know what it stands for, i want to know what you mean by that |
| 10:01.00 | QWonder | i know that ubuntu has seperate releases for openfirmware and mac because apple's idea of openfirmware is sometimes broken |
| 10:01.05 | debian_noob | yuri_:how? |
| 10:01.19 | yuri_ | debian_noob, you will need to run syslinux however, which will load the initrd in my link, which will then load your iso |
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| 10:01.39 | simonrvn | QWonder: www.debian.org/ports/ |
| 10:01.54 | debian_noob | yuri_:ill install syslinux using aptitude install syslinux? |
| 10:02.11 | yuri_ | yes |
| 10:02.22 | debian_noob | yuri_:ok wait a min |
| 10:02.23 | yuri_ | You will also need the syslinux configuration files |
| 10:02.29 | plsd | I'm trying to set up sftp only using this guide http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/590 but when doing "sftp username@localhost" I get "Couldn't read packet: Connection reset by peer". I was going to restart sshd by doing "/etc/init.d/sshd restart" but I don't have /etc/init.d/sshd I only have /etc/init.d/ssh ! Any ideas on what might be wrong? I've installed openssh-server. |
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| 10:03.54 | liable | plsd: you have the correct init script, use the ssh one |
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| 10:04.22 | QWonder | thanks for the link |
| 10:04.32 | kunal113 | whats the diff in TKIP/AES cipher modes? |
| 10:04.34 | kunal113 | any idea ? |
| 10:05.06 | liable | best to google it |
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| 10:05.15 | simonrvn | plsd: check your shell login - that you don't have some stray exit or return. that'll kill sftp all too easily. |
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| 10:05.20 | Vonoff | hi |
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| 10:06.33 | kunal113 | ok liable. liable- is it best to configure my wireless lan using eithernet port or to do it wirelessly? |
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| 10:06.54 | Vonoff | we're fiddling around with a simple hello world trying to make a .deb from it. the problem is that the resulting binary will be installed in / instead of /usr/local/bin...even though the Makefile consosts the variable DISTDIR :-/ |
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| 10:07.32 | simonrvn | debian/hello.install |
| 10:07.39 | simonrvn | use debhelper |
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| 10:08.07 | liable | kunal113: if you are going to be changing the config, best to do it over ethernet |
| 10:08.31 | Vonoff | simonrvn, there's no hello.install |
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| 10:08.38 | kunal113 | thanks liable :) |
| 10:08.45 | simonrvn | yeh i imagine there isn't ;) |
| 10:08.48 | plsd | liable, simonrvn got it working, thanks! At first I got a message when trying to start ssh, something about not being able to use PAM, so I just deleted that entry from config, hope nothing bad happens :) |
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| 10:09.08 | debian_noob | yuri_installed.next? |
| 10:09.12 | Vonoff | simonrvn, the question is why not. we did dh_make, of course |
| 10:09.18 | simonrvn | plsd: oh yeh, it still uses unix auth. that's the other issue |
| 10:09.50 | simonrvn | Vonoff: there could be a simple 'install' file too. |
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| 10:10.15 | debian_noob | yuri_:ill format my flashdrive as FAT? |
| 10:10.22 | Vonoff | simonrvn, neither |
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| 10:10.46 | simonrvn | so create it, and be sure to read man dh_install |
| 10:10.54 | niklas | Hey. I got a Xeon machine with a 64bit P4 Xeon CPU and a 64bit userland. When compiling a new kernel, should i choose Generic x64-x86 support, or should i choose the P4 Xeon option? |
| 10:11.34 | osFrenchDude1 | Hi, I need to downlad an entire website and unfortunately the entire site is made with flash. I tried wget -mirror thewebsite.com and that does not work. Is there a way to do that ? |
| 10:12.03 | Eulex | niklas, do you want a 64-bit kernel or not? |
| 10:12.12 | niklas | I want a 64bit kernel |
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| 10:12.24 | Eulex | niklas, is your operating system 64-bit? |
| 10:12.42 | debian_noob | yuri_: FAT or FAT32 or FAT16? |
| 10:12.52 | niklas | yes.. |
| 10:13.02 | Eulex | niklas, then you need to run a 64-bit kernel. |
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| 10:13.09 | niklas | i'm aware of that |
| 10:13.20 | niklas | Thats not my question |
| 10:13.45 | zrin | i've dist-upgraded etch to lenny and installed all upgrades besides bash - aptitude hangs on "Preparing to replace bash 3.1dfsg-8 (using .../archives/bash_3.2-4_amd64.deb) ..." - what does that mean? |
| 10:13.56 | niklas | I can choose Athlon64, Generic x64, or Intel P4 Xeon |
| 10:14.18 | zrin | it hangs with 100% CPU usage |
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| 10:14.27 | Eulex | there were P4 Xeons that were not 64-bit |
| 10:14.39 | Eulex | ah |
| 10:14.46 | Eulex | probably, all of those are 64-bit |
| 10:14.48 | debian_noob | what filesystem does a flashdrive have to be for using syslinux on it? |
| 10:15.01 | niklas | i also think that, but i'm not sure, which is why i ask :) |
| 10:15.15 | yuri_ | debhelper, FAT16 |
| 10:15.35 | Eulex | niklas, might get more response in a channel about linux, debian users tend to use debian kernels. |
| 10:15.36 | lopov | hi guys, has anyone had troubles with the new shared-mime-info package? I'm using unstable and now all my file associations aren't working. I have read that the package has been updated to 0.51-4 but i cannot update or find the package on the net. can anyone help please? |
| 10:15.54 | niklas | good point |
| 10:16.07 | niklas | thanks for your help |
| 10:16.17 | debian_noob | yuri_:done.after that? |
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| 10:16.39 | yuri_ | use mkdosfs to create the filesystem |
| 10:16.50 | Eulex | niklas, you could as well choose Athlon64 and be sure that it will work. |
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| 10:17.10 | debian_noob | lopov:even my file associations are not working |
| 10:18.07 | debian_noob | yuri_:ill run mkdosfs on the whole drive? |
| 10:18.11 | niklas | thats odd, both generic x86-64 and intel p4 makes the kernel in arch/x86 - so i guess it produces a 32bit kernel |
| 10:18.19 | debian_noob | lopov:after i upgraded |
| 10:19.21 | osFrenchDude1 | or maybe, do you know a good website aspirator ? |
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| 10:19.27 | lopov | debian_noob, yer it sucks :( They have updated the package but i can't seem to find where it is. obviously they my mirror repos havn't been updated |
| 10:19.32 | yuri_ | debian_noob, on the partition you just created |
| 10:19.39 | debian_noob | yuri_:its outputing mkdosfs: Device partition expected, not making filesystem on entire device '/dev/sdb' (use -I to override) |
| 10:20.02 | debian_noob | yuri_:i formatted the whole disk as fat16 |
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| 10:20.20 | yuri_ | ok then it would be /dev/sdb1 |
| 10:20.35 | yuri_ | if /dev/sdb is your usb stick |
| 10:20.42 | debian_noob | yuri_:yes |
| 10:20.43 | Eulex | niklas, one thing to keep in mind is that you can use a 64-bit kernel on a 32-bit OS. and I can imagine that the kernel looks just like a 32-bit kernel to the OS then. |
| 10:21.03 | debian_noob | yuri_:done.now? |
| 10:21.17 | yuri_ | Now download the files that I had posted in the link |
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| 10:21.58 | debian_noob | yuri_:what about the gtk folder? |
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| 10:22.11 | themill | lopov: #515728 |
| 10:22.16 | yuri_ | You don't need that unless you want to do a graphical install |
| 10:22.30 | zrin | bash upgrade hangs on "Preparing to replace bash 3.1dfsg-8 (using .../archives/bash_3.2-4_amd64.deb) ...", google gives nothing ... any clue? |
| 10:22.52 | debian_noob | yuri_:ok |
| 10:23.05 | santhosh | hi ppl, I have a 4gb usb with a single primary partition. I wanted to install debian on it, so tried mkfs.ext3 on the device, it seems to complete successfully |
| 10:23.14 | yuri_ | put initrd.gz and vmlinuz on the usb stick |
| 10:23.26 | santhosh | but on mounting I get this error, JBD: no valid journal superblock found |
| 10:23.37 | yuri_ | you will also need to download boot.img.gz and extract the contents of that, and put that on the usb stick too |
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| 10:23.43 | lopov | themill, yep thats the one |
| 10:23.56 | debian_noob | yuri:wait.the files are downloading |
| 10:24.35 | themill | lopov: so keep reading... |
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| 10:25.50 | debian_noob | yuri_:ill mount the flashdrive using ntfs-3g? |
| 10:25.55 | QWonder | do the small installers pull the packages that were initially released with that version down or the newest packages? |
| 10:25.57 | yuri_ | no |
| 10:26.12 | yuri_ | It should be FAT16... |
| 10:26.20 | lopov | themill, it says that the package will be in the debian ftp repos. which ive already done so by updating my apt sources, but it did not want to update it |
| 10:26.27 | debian_noob | yuri:mount /sdb1 is not working |
| 10:26.43 | yuri_ | what are you typing |
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| 10:27.05 | debian_noob | yuri_: mount /sdb1 |
| 10:27.12 | yuri_ | uhh |
| 10:27.14 | debian_noob | yuri_: mount /dev/sdb1 |
| 10:27.24 | yuri_ | You have to mount it somewhere |
| 10:27.42 | debian_noob | yuri_: /dev/sdb1 /media/KASH? |
| 10:28.04 | Eulex | QWonder, yes and no. if you don't tell them otherwise, they will install debian stable. but stable gets security updates and bug fixes for very severe bugs. |
| 10:28.23 | QWonder | alright |
| 10:28.49 | dubphil | Hello ! I face this error : A non-dpkg owned copy of the libc6-i686 package was found when upgrading from Etch to Lenny, when I was on Etch, I had the backports repos, the debian-multimedia repos but I never use them to upgrade libc6, my current libc6 version is the 2.3.6 (the Etch one), anyone can help me or point me to the right direction ? |
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| 10:29.01 | QWonder | just debating on whether i should continue this business card install or download the full cd... torrenting the new cd would probably be quicker than letting this finish but if it installs some of the latest packages i'll just let it finish |
| 10:29.18 | debian_noob | yuri_i mounted it |
| 10:29.25 | yuri_ | ok |
| 10:29.31 | sladi | 5~5~5~ |
| 10:29.32 | themill | lopov: build it yourself. |
| 10:29.34 | kj4 | hello all |
| 10:29.41 | debian_noob | yuri_:now to copy the files |
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| 10:30.09 | lopov | themill, ok thanks mate |
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| 10:30.13 | debian_noob | yuri |
| 10:30.19 | kj4 | hey debian_noob i'm a debian noob too |
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| 10:30.26 | kj4 | how long with debian? |
| 10:30.38 | debian_noob | kj4:few months |
| 10:30.48 | kj4 | few weeks here. how long with linux? |
| 10:30.56 | themill | lopov: it only hit sid 2 days ago and hasn't yet been built on i386. |
| 10:30.58 | yuri_ | debian_noob, all you need is boot.img.gz |
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| 10:31.05 | yuri_ | Did you download that? |
| 10:31.07 | debian_noob | yuri_:it says i do not have permissions to write to it |
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| 10:31.15 | yuri_ | sigh |
| 10:31.22 | debian_noob | yuri_:ill use cp from the trminal? |
| 10:31.26 | themill | lopov: alternatively, start using nautilus from experimental as the bug log suggests |
| 10:31.29 | IceD^^ | simple q - how to reset openldap's admin password and NOT damage database |
| 10:31.34 | IceD^^ | (I do have root access) |
| 10:31.40 | yuri_ | debian_noob, you should really read this: http://www-rohan.sdsu.edu/doc/debian/ch-disks.html |
| 10:31.54 | debian_noob | kj4:i used linux long time ago 2 yrs |
| 10:32.22 | themill | dubphil: only time I've ever seen that was when someone had tried installing a udeb on their machine. Does that ring a bell? |
| 10:32.33 | QWonder | not looking for a detailed answer right now, just curious: it would be possible to setup a local share to install these packages from using the business card cd? so that i could install this on many computers and update the packages in my local ftp when need be? |
| 10:32.56 | debian_noob | yuri_:done |
| 10:33.09 | debian_noob | yuri_:now ill extract boot and copy? |
| 10:33.12 | lopov | themill, no worries mate |
| 10:33.43 | yuri_ | after you download boot.img.gz, type this: mkdir bootimage; gunzip boot.img.gz; mount -o loop boot.img bootimage |
| 10:33.43 | dubphil | themill: unfortunately that's not my case |
| 10:33.45 | Eulex | QWonder, I suggest using for example apt-cacher |
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| 10:34.03 | Eulex | I used it a few years ago and it worked quite well |
| 10:34.04 | yuri_ | and then copy the contents from bootimage to your usb stick |
| 10:34.39 | QWonder | oh, thanks |
| 10:34.46 | simonrvn | !usb install |
| 10:34.46 | dpkg | Yes, it is possible to boot Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key, as long as your computer BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/ch04s03.html.en , see "usb stick" section, http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ for images. (Older, outdated articles http://d-i.pascal.at/ and http://wiki.debian.org/USB-HD_Boot_Full_Debian) |
| 10:35.33 | simonrvn | debian_noob, yuri_ ^^^^ |
| 10:35.49 | debian_noob | yuri_:ill copy boot.img to frive? |
| 10:35.53 | debian_noob | yuri_:ill copy boot.img to drive? |
| 10:36.13 | themill | dpkg: tell dubphil about bat |
| 10:36.23 | themill | dubphil: can you provide us with more information, please. |
| 10:36.42 | yuri_ | thanks simonrvn |
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| 10:37.27 | debian_noob | yuri_:??? |
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| 10:37.32 | dubphil | themill: ok I prepare all the stuff, thanks ! |
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| 10:37.35 | enouf | dubphil: no security.debian.org line? in sources.list? |
| 10:37.53 | dubphil | enouf: of course yes |
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| 10:38.29 | debian_noob | yuri_:boot.img file copied.after that? |
| 10:39.06 | yuri_ | debian_noob, you didn't listen to me. you need to mount boot.img and copy it's contents.. Read the link above |
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| 10:41.24 | sameerynho | when i use debmirror i get this error : Errors: |
| 10:41.26 | sameerynho | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:42.03 | simonrvn | yuri_> after you download boot.img.gz, type this: mkdir bootimage; gunzip boot.img.gz; mount -o loop boot.img bootimage |
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| 10:42.12 | simonrvn | yuri_> and then copy the contents from bootimage to your usb stick |
| 10:42.47 | debian_noob | yuri_:i did that |
| 10:43.04 | debian_noob | yuri_:sorry for misunderstanding earlier |
| 10:43.47 | debian_noob | yuri_:then? |
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| 10:45.15 | debian_noob | yuri_:i copied from boot.img by mounting |
| 10:45.24 | debian_noob | yuri_:now what do i do? |
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| 10:46.01 | yuri_ | copy your install iso to your usb stick, and then run syslinux on your fat16 parition, syslinux /dev/sdb1 |
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| 10:47.13 | debian_noob | yuri_:it is copying |
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| 10:47.34 | dubphil | themill: here it is : http://pastebin.com/d51b70111 |
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| 10:48.25 | zrin | I'm trying to upgrade bash: dpkg --debug=01043 -i /var/cache/apt/archives/bash_3.2-4_amd64.deb, but it hangs on D000002: fork/exec /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/preinst ( upgrade 3.1dfsg-8 ) --- thankful for any clue |
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| 10:49.06 | herakles | Hi, When I install Debian with disk encryption I go like this: Setup a /boot partition with no encryption, create an encrypted partition and create a LVM volume on that. Setup other partitions with LVM on this encrypted partition. But I looked around for any other solutions and find out that people use different encrypted partitions for /, swap or other partitions. And I want to know if my way is less secure or could cause problems... |
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| 10:49.59 | debian_noob | yuri_:i ran syslinux /dev/sdb1 |
| 10:50.07 | debian_noob | yuri_:now? |
| 10:50.14 | yuri_ | your done |
| 10:50.18 | themill | dubphil: is there anything additional that you can tell me about this machine? |
| 10:50.29 | dubphil | themill: I forgot that http://pastebin.com/d43974530 |
| 10:50.35 | debian_noob | yuri_:now ill just boot? |
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| 10:51.10 | yuri_ | use http://pastebin.com/ and show me the contents of your usb stick |
| 10:51.11 | vasco | hello what do you use for free virtualisation? |
| 10:51.14 | dubphil | themill : the uname -a : Linux server 2.6.18-6-686 #1 SMP Mon Aug 18 08:42:39 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 10:51.31 | yuri_ | vasco, open xen or kvm :) |
| 10:51.46 | debian_noob | yuri_:how will i show you the contents of the stick ? |
| 10:51.48 | vasco | vmware server never? |
| 10:51.49 | petemc | is there a closed xen? |
| 10:52.49 | enouf | are there ameteur dry cleaners? |
| 10:52.55 | enouf | amateur* |
| 10:53.27 | simonrvn | enouf: #d-ot |
| 10:53.57 | harpal | hey does ntfs-3g would available in etch now? |
| 10:54.11 | yuri_ | Lenny is stable now..... |
| 10:54.39 | themill | dubphil: most odd. Unfortunately, I've got to run off to a meeting in about 3 minutes... you could try forcing dpkg just to install the etch libc6-* packages and see if that solves your problem. But I'm guessing this points to other brokenness that should be investigated and fixed instead. |
| 10:54.40 | debian_noob | yuri_:http://pastebin.com/m550dc45c |
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| 10:55.15 | dubphil | ok thanks themill ! |
| 10:55.22 | sameerynho | how can i create ~/.gnupg/trustedkeys.gpg? |
| 10:55.33 | themill | dubphil: good luck... |
| 10:55.38 | debian_noob | yuri_:got that? |
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| 10:56.13 | yuri_ | looks ok, try booting |
| 10:56.24 | debian_noob | yuri_:thanks a lot |
| 10:56.28 | debian_noob | yuri_:bye |
| 10:57.02 | simonrvn | sameerynho: when you add some trusted keys of course. gpg does it itself. |
| 10:58.16 | sameerynho | simonrvn: i want to update my repo , but i get an error: gpgv: keyblock resource `/home/lxsameer/.gnupg/trustedkeys.gpg': general error |
| 10:58.32 | enouf | time issue |
| 10:58.41 | enouf | !gpgv |
| 10:58.41 | dpkg | rumour has it, unknown error executing gpgv is what you will see from apt-get update if your clock is really wrong. Set it to approximately the right time using date -s "current time" (ask me about <date> for the current time if you don't know it!) and then apt-get update. Ask me about <ntp> for a better, more permanent solution. |
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| 10:59.14 | Iradieh | Does anyone know what bash loads for .profile/.bashrc when using the terminal with an x-session. Seems like when i login using SSH my user .profile is used, but when using the x-session terminal something else gets used |
| 11:00.11 | simonrvn | depends. you set xterm to be a login shell or not? |
| 11:00.14 | simonrvn | afk |
| 11:00.17 | omry|work | is there anything to do when an nfs mount wont respond? I can't even unmount the damn thing |
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| 11:03.06 | jerome | hi there. How do I create a "tftpboot.img" image from the files I fetch on http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/main/installer-powerpc/current/images/ ? The doc is pretty obsolete / unclear about this. |
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| 11:04.00 | gypsymauro | hi |
| 11:04.04 | gypsymauro | how to convigure vlan on debian? |
| 11:04.28 | jerome | vconfig |
| 11:04.33 | rpaulson | gypsymauro: apt-cache search vlan |
| 11:04.44 | rpaulson | gypsymauro: apt-get install 8021q I thiink |
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| 11:05.18 | jerome | rpaulson: modprobe 8021q for sure |
| 11:06.13 | rpaulson | gypsymauro: you can also configure it via /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 11:07.25 | debian_noob | yuri_:it could not boot |
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| 11:09.07 | henhir | How to deploy mediawiki on lenny? |
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| 11:09.38 | Kamping_Kaiser | apt-get install it like anything else? |
| 11:09.45 | simeon_ | yeah |
| 11:09.46 | kash__ | yuri_:i am debian_noob |
| 11:10.13 | kash__ | yuri_:it could not boot from the usb stick |
| 11:10.25 | henhir | Done, but now I do want to use it? Is it already reachable on apache? |
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| 11:12.21 | yuri_ | How far did it get? |
| 11:12.29 | yuri_ | Did you get to the boot menu? |
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| 11:12.53 | kash__ | yuri_:it did not |
| 11:13.10 | kash__ | yuri_:just tried to boot and it could not |
| 11:13.46 | yuri_ | Kash, did you mark that partition as bootable in fdisk? |
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| 11:14.01 | kash__ | yuri_:how? |
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| 11:15.07 | kj4 | this is so sad |
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| 11:16.43 | kash___ | yuri_:how? |
| 11:16.46 | gypsymauro | rpaulson: I suppose that but I can't find official info about that:) |
| 11:16.51 | kash___ | kj4:whats so sad? |
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| 11:18.19 | zrin | I can't install / upgrade bash, it hangs in preinst (/var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/preinst) with 100% CPU usage - please help |
| 11:18.23 | kash___ | yuri_:how to? |
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| 11:19.25 | kash___ | yuri_:fdisk sdb1? |
| 11:19.32 | kj4 | kash___, i can't stay away from arch linux |
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| 11:19.45 | kash___ | kj4:why? |
| 11:19.46 | kj4 | it's like i've lost control |
| 11:19.51 | kj4 | i miss it so badly |
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| 11:20.07 | kash___ | kj4:you started with archlinux? |
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| 11:21.23 | kash___ | yuri_:you there? |
| 11:21.30 | kj4 | no, i just came from arch to debian a few weeks ago. started with redhat about 10 years ago, then off and on, ubuntu in 2004, fedora, suse, then i tried vista and was cured of ms permanently |
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| 11:22.56 | kash___ | kj4:im already cured of ms after few months using debian |
| 11:23.16 | kash___ | kj4:then how come you are a noob like me? |
| 11:23.53 | kj4 | i'm noob to debian |
| 11:24.11 | kash___ | im debian_noob |
| 11:24.15 | kash___ | same |
| 11:24.23 | kj4 | yep, i knew tht |
| 11:24.33 | kj4 | s/tht/that |
| 11:26.16 | kash___ | kj4:i started with PCLinux |
| 11:26.21 | kash___ | when i was 12 |
| 11:27.50 | kj4 | ok. so you aren't old now then |
| 11:27.56 | kash___ | no im 14 |
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| 11:28.01 | kj4 | what other linuxes? |
| 11:28.21 | kash___ | fedora,freepire |
| 11:28.38 | kash___ | my exams are going on and im trying to install debian |
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| 11:28.57 | kj4 | learn debian and CentOS, that's my recommendation (or fedora instead of centOS). |
| 11:28.59 | jelly | zrin: what does your /bin/sh symlink point to? |
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| 11:29.19 | kj4 | actually, finish your exams first |
| 11:29.29 | kash___ | kj4:on 25th |
| 11:29.48 | mib_t4gtfvr0 | Hi Guys, I am looking for a package that would clean up my Debian Box |
| 11:30.02 | kj4 | i used ubuntu for a few years, wish i'd switched to debian earlier |
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| 11:30.23 | kj4 | some of those distros interfer with learning 'under the hood' |
| 11:30.52 | kj4 | s/interfer/interfere |
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| 11:32.09 | yuri_ | Can you still learn "under the hood" with ubuntu |
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| 11:32.55 | kj4 | yeah, i guess so, but a lot of what you learned would be specific to ubuntu |
| 11:33.27 | yuri_ | Not really, a lot of it would apply to debian.... |
| 11:33.51 | kj4 | whiich is fine, if all you want to do is mess with your own machines, but i am aspiring to get back into IT, so I'm more interested in those types of skills and knowledge |
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| 11:34.36 | kj4 | yep, a lot of it does- i'm got a good ubuntu book that is about 80% appropriate for debian (ubuntu linux toolbox is the title) |
| 11:34.41 | yuri_ | kj4, If that is your atitude, then you should try Linux from scratch |
| 11:35.04 | mib_t4gtfvr0 | no one knows about a package to clean up Debian Box ? |
| 11:35.15 | petemc | clean up? |
| 11:35.18 | petemc | is it dirty? |
| 11:35.20 | kj4 | yuri_, yep, i've been told that. i tried arch instead, lots of fun. |
| 11:35.21 | yuri_ | mib_t4gtfvr0, that is vague |
| 11:35.28 | kj4 | mib_t4gtfvr0, fdisk? |
| 11:35.43 | yuri_ | rm -rf /* |
| 11:35.45 | enouf | windex? |
| 11:35.57 | kj4 | simple green? |
| 11:36.06 | enouf | fantastic |
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| 11:36.14 | kj4 | 409? |
| 11:36.35 | enouf | heavy duty? or ? |
| 11:37.09 | kj4 | i despise the whole heavy duty concept |
| 11:37.21 | enouf | hums a beach boys tune |
| 11:37.53 | kj4 | if there's heavy duty and super duty, heavy duty is the crappy one. it hasn't always been this way, |
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| 11:38.21 | enouf | how about ultra duty? |
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| 11:38.47 | kj4 | enouf, my point exactly! no super duty isn't so good, and heavy duty is really light duty |
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| 11:39.00 | kj4 | s/no/now |
| 11:39.08 | enouf | heh |
| 11:39.24 | negge | what does it actually mean when people write words like "s/no/now"? |
| 11:39.28 | yuri_ | You like regular expressions don't you? |
| 11:39.29 | negge | I never really understood it |
| 11:39.44 | kj4 | its like people who ask me to give 110%!! how? I'm only one man |
| 11:39.46 | negge | yuri_: not really |
| 11:39.54 | kj4 | negge: it's from 'sed' |
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| 11:40.20 | jelly | negge: corecting a typo. |
| 11:40.24 | yuri_ | I was talking to kj4 |
| 11:40.26 | jelly | s/corecting/correcting/ |
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| 11:41.01 | yuri_ | I am man enough to leave my spelling mistakes without correction |
| 11:41.02 | negge | jelly: and where does the "s" come from? |
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| 11:41.26 | negge | I just do tish |
| 11:41.26 | kj4 | yuri_, yeah i'm working on those too. (regexes) |
| 11:41.29 | negge | this* |
| 11:41.30 | jelly | negge: it is a sed, vi or perl syntax. |
| 11:41.33 | negge | way easier:) |
| 11:41.40 | negge | jelly: okay |
| 11:41.59 | zrin | negge: s is for "substitute" |
| 11:42.01 | negge | I'm not that used to regular expressions, takes me about 30 minutes to do something moderately complex |
| 11:42.07 | negge | zrin: I see |
| 11:42.14 | negge | now I know |
| 11:42.17 | kj4 | yuri_, go forth boldy, seize the day, spelling be damned |
| 11:42.18 | enouf | negge: it's usually used to change it word |
| 11:42.22 | enouf | s/it/one |
| 11:42.39 | negge | yeah |
| 11:42.42 | jelly | enouf: I hate when people don't complete their s/// |
| 11:42.50 | enouf | negge: so, if you do one* instead ... |
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| 11:43.09 | negge | :D |
| 11:43.10 | enouf | jelly: i'm getting better! |
| 11:43.25 | jelly | s,s/it/one,s/it/one/, |
| 11:43.26 | zrin | you can as well use old\new |
| 11:43.53 | yuri_ | negge, try this echo cat | sed s/cat/dog/ |
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| 11:44.14 | ffizz | i'm trying to upgrade from etch to lenny on a box that i can only access via ssh. the upgrade wants to update libc6 and asks me which services to restart. in that list is also ssh. should i restart ssh or not? |
| 11:44.24 | negge | yuri_: yeah I see know |
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| 11:44.33 | enouf | s/k// |
| 11:44.36 | enouf | :-) |
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| 11:44.46 | petemc | ffizz: ssh keeps sessions open when restarting |
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| 11:45.03 | negge | I think I might have used that expression once or twice to rename extensions on all files in a directory or something |
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| 11:45.08 | kj4 | how do you spell tacocat backwards? |
| 11:45.14 | ffizz | petemc: thanks. |
| 11:45.18 | negge | ffizz: it's no worries, you won't get disconnected |
| 11:45.35 | petemc | you cant say that for sure |
| 11:46.10 | ffizz | petemc, negge: worked! |
| 11:46.22 | negge | good |
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| 11:47.10 | kj4 | Was it eliot's toilet I saw? <--- letters in the same sequence, forwards and backwards. |
| 11:47.35 | petemc | palindromes, whilst interested, are a bit off topic |
| 11:47.44 | kj4 | ok. i'll stop. |
| 11:47.45 | petemc | s/ed/ing/ |
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| 11:58.41 | Rvec | http://yaron.pastebin.com/d674fd8d9 <-- that means they did nothing and I can safely ignore it right? |
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| 12:02.35 | dalfz | the netinst cd says i need to install a firmware file from "removable media". I have it on an usb stick, but it's not recognized. how can i provide the file from cd? |
| 12:02.56 | dalfz | it's firmware for network card BCM5708 |
| 12:03.45 | liable | dalfz: there is a section in the install manual that describes how to prepare the media for supplying firmware |
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| 12:04.33 | enouf | not recognized? |
| 12:05.32 | dalfz | enouf Cannot read removable media it says |
| 12:05.44 | dalfz | .fw file is in root directory of it |
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| 12:06.16 | enouf | don't you just cp it into /lib/firmware ? |
| 12:07.14 | enouf | oh, you're doing an installation - i see |
| 12:07.35 | dalfz | yep:) |
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| 12:14.27 | enouf | !qotd0 |
| 12:14.27 | dpkg | qotd113 is probably greycat|home | TummyAcid: TAB TAB TAB TAB TAB!!! Tab is your friend! Use the tab key! |
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| 12:23.33 | quitte | hi everybody |
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| 12:25.53 | chty | hey, why is there any lib64gcrypt ? I wasn't able to find it |
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| 12:26.44 | pbn | Hi, on lenny, should I use sun-java5-bin or sun-java6-bin ? |
| 12:28.05 | quitte | chty: why do you think it should be there? |
| 12:28.51 | chty | quitte: to build 64bits program on 32bits install |
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| 12:29.25 | adb | pbn: the 6 |
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| 12:29.49 | chty | quitte: as a lot of libraries, there is a lib64[*]. I wasn't able to find it for libgcrypt |
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| 12:30.38 | quitte | chty: have a look at dpkg-cross. it will help you setup a directory of libraries and headers for cross building |
| 12:30.55 | chty | quitte: okay |
| 12:31.08 | enouf | chty: ia32-libs has some libgcrypt stuff |
| 12:31.46 | fireba11 | hm .. i deleted a default config file from nagios3, but i noticed the examples would be usefull. is there a way to get this restored? :-D |
| 12:32.16 | quitte | fireball purge and reinstall the package |
| 12:32.26 | petemc | fireba11: /msg dpkg confmiss |
| 12:32.32 | fireba11 | thanks |
| 12:32.33 | petemc | not the most direct way |
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| 12:33.24 | fireba11 | hm .. i'll probably be faster pulling the file fro th package manually or something :-D |
| 12:33.26 | chty | enouf: I'm not on amd64 or ia64 systems |
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| 12:34.30 | enouf | chty: this is all i can tell you http://packages.debian.org/search?suite=lenny&arch=any&mode=filename&searchon=contents&keywords=gcrypt |
| 12:35.57 | chty | enouf: I know but this doesn't answer my problem. anyway I'm looking at dpkg-cros |
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| 12:36.37 | zrin | I can't install / upgrade bash, it hangs in preinst (/var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/preinst) with 100% CPU usage - what can I do? help! |
| 12:37.16 | enouf | chty: you have a 64bit cpu? |
| 12:37.48 | enouf | zrin: did you ever answer jelly ? |
| 12:38.12 | zrin | enouf: ? |
| 12:38.22 | enouf | and .. is there supposed to be a var/lib/dpkg/tmp.anything? never heard of that |
| 12:38.48 | chty | enouf: the problem is having the libgcrypt11 lib for 64bits in a 32bits tree. |
| 12:38.51 | fireba11 | petemc: extracted the file manually from the .deb cached by apt :-) |
| 12:38.52 | zrin | enouf: it is created from the .deb package |
| 12:39.08 | enouf | zrin: which debian release are you using? |
| 12:39.12 | zrin | enouf: DEBIAN/preinst is copied there durind the installation |
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| 12:39.47 | zrin | enouf: I've dist-upgraded etch to lenny - that went well (as far as I can tell now), expect for bash |
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| 12:40.00 | zrin | enouf: so it's lenny now |
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| 12:41.51 | zrin | enouf: dpkg -i bash....deb just hangs, I've found out (dpkg --debug=01777) that it hangs while executing preinst |
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| 12:44.00 | zrin | jelly: I've changed /bin/sh to point to /bin/dash while experimenting with bash upgrade |
| 12:44.08 | quitte | is there a way to make trackerd nor reread everything after a reboot? |
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| 12:44.46 | zrin | jelly: now I've just copied the new bash binary to /bin/bash and let /bin/sh point to it again, but I still can't install bash properly |
| 12:45.18 | zrin | jelly: (sorry, I was away while rebooting that machine) |
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| 12:47.13 | zrin | perhaps it would be helpful just to find out what bash's preinst is supposed to do |
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| 12:47.32 | Akiva | Does anyone have any experience running Sun ONE ASP support for a CentOS server? |
| 12:47.49 | Gigantic | wich reconfigure to et the default pager? |
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| 12:48.20 | Akiva | Or perhaps someone could instead direct me to a better channel to join for said topic? |
| 12:48.31 | quitte | Akiva: #centos |
| 12:48.39 | Akiva | I am in there as well |
| 12:48.47 | Akiva | It's not centOS specific |
| 12:48.49 | Akiva | And they don't know |
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| 12:49.54 | Akiva | My web host installed it on our server and I am transferring a site from a separate Windows server to this server and am encountering some issues connecting to an MS Access DB |
| 12:50.04 | Akiva | It will successfully run ASP code, however |
| 12:50.05 | enouf | zrin: i don't know ; everything i'm seeing on googie pertains to a *buntu or vmware |
| 12:50.48 | enouf | Gigantic: update-alternatives --config pager |
| 12:51.20 | Gigantic | enouf: :) |
| 12:51.30 | zrin | enouf: I've tried various searchs on google, now this (new) preinst is a compiled ELF image, I'll take a look at the etch's bash preinst... |
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| 12:52.08 | enouf | ewww |
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| 12:52.57 | zrin | enouf: perhaps it makes sense that bash's preinst is not a (ba)sh script |
| 12:53.30 | stew | bash's preinst has always been a compiled c program |
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| 12:54.18 | stew | Akiva: perhaps try "/msg alis help" or #freenode ; but this is the wrong channel |
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| 12:55.07 | enouf | heh zrin (string within the elf32) Please upgrade to a new version of dpkg ...The bash upgrade discovered that something is wrong with your /bin/sh link..The bash upgrade discovered that your /bin/sh link points to %s. ...As bash for Debian is destined to provide a working /bin/sh (pointing to /bin/bash) your link will be overwritten by a default link. If you don't want further upgrades to overwrite your customization, ... |
| 12:55.22 | enouf | ... please read /usr/share/doc/bash/README.Debian for a more permanent solution. [Press RETURN to continue]....... |
| 12:55.30 | quitte | or maybe claim it'S an interoperability problem using suse linux? ;) |
| 12:57.19 | zrin | enouf: thank you ... it would be niche if this preinst would output some error message, but it just hangs in what seems to be infinite loop |
| 12:57.42 | enouf | wish list bug? .. |
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| 12:57.54 | obcecado | shii |
| 12:58.05 | obcecado | too many exploiters hanging around here in #debian these days.. |
| 12:58.21 | obcecado | DCC SEND from Cheeese [0.0.0.0 port 0]: startkeylogger [0B bytes] requested in channel #debian |
| 12:58.29 | obcecado | getting many of these every night |
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| 12:58.34 | zrin | enouf: I'll try to find the source of this preinst |
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| 12:58.48 | stew | obcecado: do not paste that into an irc channel |
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| 12:59.01 | obcecado | sorry wont happen again |
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| 12:59.04 | enouf | zrin: they're in file:///var/lib/dpkg/info/ |
| 12:59.28 | stew | obcecado: this is a common attack on firewalls. the people that do it (like you just did) usually get k-lined from the network quickly |
| 12:59.29 | zrin | enouf: yes, when installed ... I've got the source package, looking there now |
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| 12:59.55 | stew | obcecado: /msg ubottu exploit for more information |
| 13:00.10 | obcecado | thanks, will do |
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| 13:00.29 | enouf | dpkg: say ubottu you stinkin' bot! |
| 13:00.29 | dpkg | ubottu you stinkin' bot! |
| 13:01.00 | gynterk | what do to if I need j2sdk on etch? |
| 13:01.07 | gynterk | for compiling a java app |
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| 13:02.02 | stew | gynterk: install openjdk-6-jdk if you want the free java from sun, or sun-java6-jdk if you want the non-free version |
| 13:02.03 | gynterk | currently compiling returns http://pastebin.com/d534feae7 |
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| 13:02.38 | gynterk | i have non-free, but i'll try free too |
| 13:02.48 | stew | gynterk: if you have sun's already, i woulnd't bother |
| 13:03.00 | gynterk | but i still get this error |
| 13:03.05 | gynterk | is the app too old? |
| 13:03.17 | stew | gynterk: what does "readlink -f $(which javac)" return? |
| 13:03.20 | enouf | zrin: are you sure your kernel, libc6, and dpkg are Lenny versions? cat /proc/version |
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| 13:03.44 | gynterk | stew, /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/javac |
| 13:04.03 | zrin | enouf: Linux version 2.6.26-1-amd64 (Debian 2.6.26-13) (waldi@debian.org) (gcc version 4.1.3 20080704 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.2-24)) #1 SMP Sat Jan 10 17:57:00 UTC 2009 |
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| 13:04.50 | enouf | zrin: hrm .. i know the -686 ones now say gcc version 4.3.x now .. hrm .. |
| 13:05.00 | stew | gynterk: do you know what is causing the makefile to use "/usr/lib/j2sdk/bin/javac" instead of "/usr/bin/javac"? |
| 13:05.06 | henry-nicolas | hi enouf, don't know if you remember, we talked a few days ago about the package containing the new debian moreblue theme (because I didn't find it). The package is simply called desktop-base FYI, really great theme |
| 13:05.19 | stew | gynterk: (it looks like you already have the free version, as that is what /usr/bin/javac is pointing to) |
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| 13:05.31 | enouf | henry-nicolas: heh, so not even kde related, eh? ;-) |
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| 13:05.36 | zrin | enouf: it is the lenny kernel, and libc6 is updated as well |
| 13:05.44 | Maulkin | obcecado: When you get them, complain here. We can ban them. |
| 13:05.52 | xand | hmm, since upgrading to stable lenny (from testing lenny), modprobe can't seem to find any modules I want to load |
| 13:05.59 | Maulkin | Though we normally notice |
| 13:06.00 | henry-nicolas | enouf: not so, I contains themes for both gnome and kde and also splashy |
| 13:06.03 | xand | (and apparently doesn't have any loaded) |
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| 13:06.08 | obcecado | will do |
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| 13:06.21 | gynterk | stew, odd, but not in dpkg -l |
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| 13:06.39 | enouf | xand: heh, my modules went missing once too ... freaked me out |
| 13:06.44 | stew | gynterk: how did you check with dpkg -l ? |
| 13:07.24 | zrin | enouf: that would make sense ... it is libc-2.7.so |
| 13:07.26 | enouf | xand: does /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/ contain kernel/ etc? |
| 13:07.28 | gynterk | dpkg -l | grep jre |
| 13:07.28 | dpkg | No packages found matching | grep jre |
| 13:08.02 | stew | gynterk: does "dpkg -l | grep openjdk" show matches? |
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| 13:08.07 | gynterk | hmm, yes |
| 13:08.09 | xand | enouf: it contains kernel, but kernel only has one thing in it... drivers/scsi/scsi_wait_scan.ko |
| 13:09.11 | enouf | xand: ouch - try ~$ ls -lR /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/ | wc -l |
| 13:09.14 | danners | are there docs describing how the packages get uploaded then build... that describe these processes in debian? |
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| 13:09.32 | enouf | xand: i think a reinstall of linux-image-version fixed it for me |
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| 13:09.41 | xand | yeah, just trying that |
| 13:09.48 | stew | gynterk: you also might try 'update-java-alternatives' to change which jdk is the default |
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| 13:10.02 | enouf | i get 3717 for that wc -l xlotlu |
| 13:10.07 | xand | I get 11 |
| 13:10.10 | enouf | er xand , not xlotlu |
| 13:10.13 | xlotlu | you do? |
| 13:10.15 | enouf | ouch - heh |
| 13:10.23 | xlotlu | :) |
| 13:10.45 | enouf | xand: self-compiled? forgot the make modules step? |
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| 13:11.27 | anewbie | hi there guys can some ne tell me where can i find logs for the errors in my cgiirc |
| 13:11.35 | anewbie | in /var/log |
| 13:11.41 | anewbie | i cant find nothing about it |
| 13:11.51 | stew | anewbie: which webserver are you running it under? |
| 13:11.56 | anewbie | apache2 |
| 13:11.57 | xand | gah, still only 11 |
| 13:12.02 | gynterk | stew, now i have /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.07/bin/javac but still same error |
| 13:12.16 | stew | anewbie: try /var/log/apache2/error.log |
| 13:12.22 | anewbie | ok |
| 13:12.25 | anewbie | i will :) |
| 13:12.43 | stew | gynterk: how does the makeifle determine which javac to use? |
| 13:12.54 | enouf | xand: does dpkg -l linux-image-version show it as ii ? try apt-get install -f ? |
| 13:13.32 | enouf | zrin: what would make sense? |
| 13:13.34 | anewbie | ahaaaa stew : )yeah that is the location |
| 13:13.34 | anewbie | :D |
| 13:13.38 | xand | oh, no, it's using a different directory name |
| 13:13.38 | anewbie | coool |
| 13:13.39 | anewbie | :D |
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| 13:14.01 | enouf | xand: ... |
| 13:14.09 | gynterk | there is JAVA_PATH=/usr/lib/j2sdk in Makefile.defs, should i change it? |
| 13:14.15 | zrin | enouf: wrong libc version ... I'm adding some debug printfs into bash.preinst.c ... |
| 13:14.29 | stew | gynterk: yes, you should try getting rid of it |
| 13:14.32 | enouf | ahh |
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| 13:14.40 | enouf | judd: versions libc6 |
| 13:14.42 | judd | enouf: libc6 -- etch: 2.3.6.ds1-13etch7 lenny: 2.7-18 sid: 2.7-18 squeeze: 2.7-18 |
| 13:14.49 | stew | gynterk: and if that doesn't work, point it to one of the subdirectories of /usr/lib/jvm/ |
| 13:15.08 | zrin | enouf: can you please check for me: /usr/sbin/dpkg-divert --list /bin/sh |
| 13:15.48 | jelly | zrin: uh, /bin/sh isn't supposed to be managed with divert afaik |
| 13:16.00 | gynterk | stew, many thanks, JAVA_PATH=/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.07 did the trick |
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| 13:16.07 | zrin | jelly: that is what bash.preinst.c does |
| 13:16.14 | jelly | scratch that, I'm wrong |
| 13:17.06 | Ongavezir | Hozsanna brotha'z |
| 13:17.32 | zrin | jelly: on my target machine it (dpkg-divert --list /bin/sh) returns nothing, is that ok? |
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| 13:17.57 | jelly | zrin: afaik, yes. |
| 13:18.39 | kj4 | anyone running squeeze on a laptop and care to tell me if they think that's a good idea? |
| 13:18.44 | jelly | zrin: I have a "local diversion of /bin/sh to /bin/sh.distrib" on a testing machine but do not remember creating it. |
| 13:19.04 | jelly | kj4: if you have to ask, you shouldn't. |
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| 13:19.35 | stew | kj4: right not is not going to be a good time for squeeze. It will be going through a lot of growing pains in the next couple of weeks. especially for kde/gnome users |
| 13:19.58 | jelly | oh $deity, kde 4.2 is going in, innit? |
| 13:20.00 | zrin | jelly: I'm comtemplating replacing bash's preinst with a dummy script in order to complete installation - as far as I can see it just checks few things |
| 13:20.27 | jelly | zrin: did a strace point to anything interesting? |
| 13:20.48 | zrin | jelly: didn't try that yet ... will do |
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| 13:21.10 | jelly | zrin: also, which arch are you using? |
| 13:21.25 | kj4 | thanks stew. so would sid be even 'worse' right now? |
| 13:21.28 | jelly | nm, I see it's amd64 |
| 13:21.44 | zrin | jelly: amd64 --- strace reveals infinite loop in preinst |
| 13:22.12 | jelly | zrin: well, you already knew that. ;-) |
| 13:22.26 | zrin | jelly: kind of :( |
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| 13:22.46 | Sertse | !sudo |
| 13:22.46 | dpkg | from memory, sudo is (Substitute User DO) better than su, according to talon. It is able to give limited super user privileges to specific users, or can allow you to do silly things like run X apps with root perms, or good in scripts with "username ALL = NOPASSWD: /some/program", or http://www.aplawrence.com/Basics/sudo.html or you need to setup /etc/sudoers first before you can use it (ask about <visudo>) |
| 13:23.13 | zrin | jelly: I wanted to finish writing invoices today ... not debug bash installation :/ |
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| 13:23.19 | jelly | zrin: btw do I know you from .hr irc 15 years ago or so? :-) |
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| 13:23.27 | enouf | zrin: that command returns nothing here |
| 13:23.34 | zrin | jelly: most probably yes :D |
| 13:23.42 | jelly | *nod* |
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| 13:24.43 | stew | kj4: sid will break more often for less time per breakage |
| 13:24.58 | stew | kj4: but /msg dpkg iyhtays |
| 13:25.43 | jelly | zrin: I guess, if that /bin/bash already works well, you could just override that preinst and file a bug |
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| 13:26.47 | enouf | zrin: btw, which version of bash is trying to be installed - is there perhaps a stale/old/lock file in /var/tmp/, or /var/run/ or something? can you pastebin output of "dpkg -l linux-image-* bash libc6 dpkg | grep ^.i" also see what happens with a apt-get install -f maybe? |
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| 13:27.32 | syntech | wtf |
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| 13:32.30 | enouf | slaps solid_liq around with a huge petrified coelacanth |
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| 13:34.51 | Ongavezir | Hozsanna dicsoseges Balazsbela etsverem |
| 13:35.18 | balazsbela | hello |
| 13:35.25 | stew | !hu |
| 13:35.25 | dpkg | from memory, hu is Ha magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #debian.hu -t. |
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| 13:36.33 | Ongavezir | stew Brotha' have you any problems with Ongavezir DA Holyness? Wtfm? |
| 13:37.05 | stew | Ongavezir: this channel is english only, thanks |
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| 13:43.20 | Ongavezir | OK stew brotha |
| 13:43.24 | zrin | enouf: I've built the package from source with the same outcome |
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| 13:43.36 | Ongavezir | mega vertveres @szom:D |
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| 13:44.02 | stew | Ongavezir: you've been silenced for 10 minuts |
| 13:44.10 | stew | minutes* |
| 13:44.17 | zrin | enouf: bash.preinst tries to open a directory as a file and read from it, I'm about to find out details |
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| 13:48.36 | log69 | hi there guys, could you help me - i'd like to know how long etch and lenny is planned to support with security updates |
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| 13:48.55 | asg | log69: 1 year unless squeeze releases first |
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| 13:49.17 | asg | log69: for etch. lenny will be supported for 1 year after squeeze releases |
| 13:49.27 | log69 | thank you very much |
| 13:49.46 | bit-r0t | how longer will we get updates for Etch? |
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| 13:49.58 | stew | bit-r0t: approximately one year |
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| 13:50.38 | bit-r0t | Cool, we can plan the upgrade a bit later next month then. Thanks! |
| 13:51.10 | syntech | bore. |
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| 13:55.09 | enouf | zrin: hrm .. |
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| 13:56.14 | zrin | enouf: strace ./bash.preinst: read(3, 0x7fff266f0d80, 8192) = -1 EISDIR (Is a directory) (repeated infinitely) |
| 13:56.15 | JoeLow | hey guys, im running debian within vmware, but the screen size is tiny, how would i go about attempting to make it full screen? (is it a driver issue) |
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| 13:56.39 | asg | JoeLow: did you install the vmware tools? |
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| 13:56.51 | JoeLow | asg: ah right, no, i will do that now |
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| 13:57.29 | orion_X11 | is this command right for me to get a notebook internet access through my PC which is connected to the net via wlan0 (wireless)iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o wlan0 -j MASQUERADE |
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| 13:57.50 | jelly | zrin: what's at fd 3? |
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| 13:58.10 | jelly | zrin: lsof -n pid |
| 13:58.11 | zrin | jelly: don't know yet |
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| 13:59.11 | jelly | zrin: or look in /proc/PID/fd if lsof isn't there yet |
| 13:59.32 | gypsymauro | if I use vlan_raw_device eth0 in interfaces this means that I can't use eth0 anymore as normal interface? |
| 13:59.36 | zrin | lsof -n 21874: lsof: status error on 21874: No such file or directory |
| 13:59.51 | JoeLow | asg: it says i must mount the virtual cd drive in the guest? im not detecting that, any ideas? |
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| 14:00.23 | asg | JoeLow: the install manual should tell you want the mount is. I don't know offhand though. |
| 14:00.25 | jelly | zrin: sorry, lsof -n -p pid |
| 14:00.38 | JoeLow | asg: ok cool, il take a look |
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| 14:01.26 | zrin | jelly: thank you - found it! /etc/skel/.profile is a directory on that machine |
| 14:01.46 | jelly | iiinteresting. |
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| 14:03.05 | zrin | jelly: yes, bash.preinst will hang in an infinite loop if /etc/skel/.profile is a directory |
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| 14:04.06 | jelly | zrin: sounds like a great bug report |
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| 14:04.48 | zrin | is running reportbug |
| 14:05.05 | jelly | judd: versions reportbug-ng |
| 14:05.06 | judd | jelly: reportbug-ng -- sid: 1.2 sid: 1.2.1 |
| 14:05.08 | ribasushi | hm... if I want to make a binary-all package, I sill need to mention it into every dist/section/binary-* right? |
| 14:05.13 | jelly | judd: how?? |
| 14:05.14 | judd | jelly: Error: "how??" is not a valid command. |
| 14:05.14 | ribasushi | there seems to be no binary-all |
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| 14:06.08 | gypsymauro | on a machine I've two nics one on the LAN and one on internet, it's an error to add the gateway params on both interfaces? (for the LAN is a switch and for the internet network card is my ISP router) |
| 14:06.44 | themill | judd: different arches. |
| 14:06.44 | petemc | gypsymauro: why do you need a gateway for the switch? |
| 14:06.44 | judd | themill: Error: "different" is not a valid command. |
| 14:06.48 | themill | jelly: ^^ |
| 14:06.59 | themill | stupid fscking bots. |
| 14:07.05 | jelly | themill: gotcha |
| 14:07.11 | petemc | gypsymauro: in either case, its somewhat more complex than just adding the addresses /msg dpkg split access |
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| 14:07.27 | themill | jelly: or not... since it's an arch-all package. |
| 14:07.37 | gypsymauro | petemc: the switch is default gateways for other lans so I've not to add specifics routes for that lan but they will be managed by the switch |
| 14:07.56 | themill | stew: is judd a little confused atm? ^^ reportbug-ng comes up as being in sid twice. |
| 14:08.03 | kilt | Does someone know why linux-kbuild-2.6.28 is a virtual package ? I find nothing on internet. And therefore : is there anyway to install linux kernel 2.6.28 headers ? |
| 14:08.21 | enouf | zrin: good work |
| 14:08.24 | petemc | gypsymauro: thats sounds.. weird |
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| 14:08.56 | enouf | kilt: see /msg dpkg trunk kernel |
| 14:08.56 | jelly | !tell kilt -about d-k |
| 14:09.10 | enouf | !d-k |
| 14:09.10 | dpkg | Visit http://wiki.debian.org/DebianKernel for information on installing the kernel team's latest experimental kernels. Also visit #debian-kernel on irc.debian.org for more information on these kernels. See http://wiki.debian.org/HowToRebuildAnOfficialDebianKernelPackage or ask me about <kernel package>. Remember these packages are previews and work in progress. Handle with care. |
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| 14:09.16 | stew | themill: yes, there are a few packages which show up multiple times in sid, but I haven't tracked down why yet |
| 14:09.17 | enouf | okie doke |
| 14:09.33 | kilt | thanks enouf and jelly ;) |
| 14:09.36 | themill | stew: ahh... fun |
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| 14:09.59 | syntech | WHAT UP PEOPLE! |
| 14:10.13 | syntech | -deathnote intro song |
| 14:10.22 | jelly | syntech: you accidentally the verb there. |
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| 14:10.37 | syntech | what |
| 14:10.40 | themill | where the verb? |
| 14:10.59 | syntech | accidently the verb ( scratches his goatee ) |
| 14:11.00 | JoeLow | asg: during vmware tools install i need to compile a module for my kernel, how do i get the C header files? |
| 14:11.13 | syntech | lawl |
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| 14:11.47 | enouf | stew: i'd have to say you could narrow it down to whatever was done around the time Lenny was released initially, no? since judd seemed fine just prior to that |
| 14:12.02 | stew | enouf: no, this problem has existed for a long time |
| 14:12.21 | enouf | (not that that helps much) .. oh? guess i never noticed ..ugh .. ok |
| 14:12.39 | stew | actually you noticed, you've told me about one weeks ago :) |
| 14:12.45 | syntech | anyone got any ebooks on algebra - trig - calculus and beyond ( for my own studys ) |
| 14:12.46 | enouf | or forgot .. :-/ |
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| 14:13.21 | stew | syntech: try ##math |
| 14:13.30 | syntech | lol |
| 14:13.37 | syntech | only 1 person there o_O :D |
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| 14:14.09 | jelly | syntech: try #defocus then, this channel is for distro support. |
| 14:14.09 | syntech | #math i think you mean stew :) |
| 14:14.15 | stew | syntech: no, i mean ##math |
| 14:14.42 | abrotman | stew: i think they changed it back |
| 14:14.45 | stew | syntech: oh, i guess i mean #math |
| 14:14.47 | stew | hrm |
| 14:14.48 | syntech | stew, well its #math now. :P |
| 14:14.55 | abrotman | it was ##math awhile ago |
| 14:14.58 | jelly | gone official. |
| 14:15.02 | enouf | !8ball what does stew mean? |
| 14:15.02 | dpkg | Are you smoking crack? |
| 14:15.06 | enouf | heh |
| 14:15.18 | JoeLow | if i apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.26-1-686, where do the headers go? /usr/include? |
| 14:15.32 | jelly | JoeLow: dpkg -L packagename will tell you. |
| 14:15.42 | jelly | JoeLow: ... once it's installed |
| 14:15.50 | JoeLow | ok cool |
| 14:16.01 | enouf | JoeLow: a symlink gets made /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build points to them |
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| 14:17.00 | enouf | ~$ ll /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build |
| 14:17.01 | enouf | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 35 2008-09-07 09:28 /lib/modules/2.6.26-1-686/build -> /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.26-1-686 |
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| 14:18.26 | JoeLow | im trying that, but vmware tools is saying that dir doesnt contain a 'linux; directory as expected.. |
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| 14:20.25 | JoeLow | should i create a linux sub-dir there? in /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.26-1-686 |
| 14:21.16 | enouf | there isn't one here |
| 14:21.24 | jelly | JoeLow: you shouldn't. vmware-config.pl will ask you for the real directory, and it usually guesses the name right |
| 14:21.38 | themill | JoeLow: you might like to investigate the vmware-package package as that automates much of this. |
| 14:21.40 | JoeLow | so /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.26-1-686 is the real dir? |
| 14:21.59 | JoeLow | i am supplying /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.26-1-686 to vmware-config.pl |
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| 14:22.21 | enouf | it's likely looking for a /sur/src/linux which is always a symlink to current/last src install - if one actually builds there - which one shouldn't |
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| 14:22.53 | jelly | JoeLow: I don't remember whether it wants /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.26-1-686 or /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.26-1-686/include |
| 14:22.59 | enouf | s,sur,usr, |
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| 14:23.01 | JoeLow | ok il try both |
| 14:23.17 | jelly | JoeLow: there should be a "linux" directory under include/ |
| 14:23.45 | enouf | thing is, i have a linux-headers-2.6.26-1-686/ and a linux-headers-2.6.26-1-common/ |
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| 14:25.13 | enouf | but the /build symlink points to the former, so |
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| 14:29.06 | multi_io | in Iceweasel, for this page: http://www.hibernate.org/161.html?cmd=prntdoc , the print preview looks like this: http://user.cs.tu-berlin.de/~klischat/printpreview.png . Note the cut-off lines. The actual printout looks just the same. |
| 14:29.14 | multi_io | what's wrong here?? |
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| 14:29.45 | multi_io | problem doesn't appear to ohappen with original Firefox 3.0 rc1 on another machine (under Fedora) |
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| 14:34.22 | gynterk | anyone knows a tool to capture certain sent packet and resend it? app should also have filter possibility to filter out that sent packet |
| 14:35.57 | orion_X11 | How do I get internet access through a crosscable between a PC and a Notebook. My pc is using wlan0 (wireless card) and I did > iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o wlan0 -j MASQUERADE and echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward > but did not work |
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| 14:40.02 | linuxguy | anyone know what that channel craigevil and h2 use on oftc? |
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| 14:40.19 | enouf | orion_X11: crosscable is wrong, iinm |
| 14:40.29 | petemc | linuxguy: use whois |
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| 14:40.38 | linuxguy | \1whois |
| 14:40.44 | petemc | on oftc |
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| 14:40.47 | petemc | and not like that |
| 14:41.06 | linuxguy | petemc, that wont work, i need the room they are in on a different network |
| 14:41.13 | Maulkin | !room |
| 14:41.13 | dpkg | CHANNEL! |
| 14:41.14 | orion_X11 | enouf: explain |
| 14:41.18 | petemc | linuxguy: i noticed |
| 14:41.29 | enouf | orion_X11: use a staright through one |
| 14:41.42 | enouf | straight even |
| 14:41.55 | orion_X11 | enouf: ok |
| 14:42.22 | enouf | orion_X11: look at /etc/sysctl.conf also |
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| 14:44.06 | Stros | trying to update to squeeze i changed stable to squeeze in the souces file yet im getting Err http://non-us.debian.org squeeze/non-US/non-free Packages |
| 14:44.49 | stew | Stros: non-US went away years ago, you cna remove that from sources.list |
| 14:44.58 | Stros | :S |
| 14:44.58 | orion_X11 | enouf: the cable is ok. Because I have dual boot and I can get access through WinXP (pc) to Debian (notebook), but I am not able to get access when I am in Debian (PC) and Debian (notebook). This is what I want to fix |
| 14:45.03 | robin_z | grootings, out of interest, is Joomla in the debian package ree yet? |
| 14:45.06 | robin_z | *tree |
| 14:45.32 | enouf | orion_X11: access to internet from winXP? |
| 14:45.43 | Stros | thx Stew , other than that i have deb http://security.debian.org squeeze/updates main contrib non-free |
| 14:45.44 | Stros | and |
| 14:45.54 | Stros | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:46.06 | stew | Stros: sounds good |
| 14:46.06 | Stros | should that be it ? |
| 14:46.09 | stew | yes |
| 14:46.50 | enouf | orion_X11: supposedly, just installing the ipmasq pkg should handle all needed things, if cabling is correct |
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| 14:47.24 | enouf | orion_X11: er, wireless? and cables? er... |
| 14:47.40 | orion_X11 | enouf: No. From XP (PC) to Debian (notebook) > the internet access is ok. But, not when the PC is in Debian. |
| 14:47.42 | Stros | stew : are you using it ? any problems yet ? |
| 14:48.01 | enouf | orion_X11: that's what i asked - so the answer is Yes |
| 14:48.05 | stew | Stros: i'm not. yes there are problems |
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| 14:48.32 | Stros | :( |
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| 14:49.27 | Stros | stew : think it would be a better idea to just update to lenny for now ? |
| 14:49.28 | enouf | orion_X11: and you pc has no wirless card - atleast not one that's using wlan0 for wired |
| 14:49.33 | orion_X11 | enouf: I get internet access through a wireless card (rt61) |
| 14:49.35 | kriox | sorry for my english,, |
| 14:49.46 | kriox | hi everyone t |
| 14:49.48 | syntech | orion_X11, Awesome. |
| 14:49.51 | stew | Stros: yes, what version are you running now? |
| 14:49.53 | Stros | till squeeze gets a bit older ? |
| 14:50.06 | Stros | etch |
| 14:50.19 | stew | Stros: then you must upgrade to lenny first, skipping releases is not supported |
| 14:50.56 | kriox | the question is: there is a debian 5 that came whit installer like a ubuntu or kubuntu version? |
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| 14:51.14 | Stros | stew: i can "downgrade" the sources , right ? |
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| 14:51.22 | Stros | i just changed them to testing |
| 14:51.25 | orion_X11 | enouf: and through a cable I want to share the access with the (notebook). Right? |
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| 14:51.32 | JoeLow | hey, when u start iceweasel or firefox, its about inch above the visibility of my screen, so i cant type in the URL bar...how can i set it to launch a little lower? |
| 14:51.34 | stew | Stros: did you install packages with them pointing at testing? |
| 14:51.39 | valdyn | orion_X11: oonce your two computers are networked, and internet connection sharing is set up as you did or via ipmasq package, your "client" needs to know the route to the internet |
| 14:51.42 | enouf | orion_X11: i don't understand - sorry |
| 14:51.43 | jerome | kriox: you mean a graphical installer ? |
| 14:52.10 | kriox | jerome: yes a graphical and easy installer |
| 14:52.12 | Stros | stew: no , only aptitude update |
| 14:52.33 | valdyn | orion_X11: and thats like "route add default gw <ip of router>" |
| 14:52.39 | stew | Stros: then yes. note that it is better to use release names like "etch" or "lenny" in sources.list than it is to use "stable" |
| 14:52.51 | valdyn | orion_X11: or the gateway entry in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 14:52.56 | Stros | yes i've just read that :) |
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| 14:53.53 | orion_X11 | valdyn: the ip's are already set up, but I need to type the right command which I do not now. |
| 14:54.08 | valdyn | orion_X11: the ips? |
| 14:54.15 | valdyn | orion_X11: i told you to get up a gateway |
| 14:54.18 | orion_X11 | valdyn: iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o wlan0 -j MASQUERADE (?) |
| 14:54.37 | valdyn | orion_X11: i said "...as you did" |
| 14:54.39 | orion_X11 | valdyn: echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward |
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| 14:54.54 | valdyn | orion_X11: dont tell me how you did it, i already read that and i already told you that that is ok |
| 14:55.34 | Stros | stew : any idea how any MB it would need to download to upgrade from etch to lenny ? |
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| 14:55.45 | orion_X11 | valdyn: sorry. I do not want to quarrel, but only to be helped |
| 14:55.46 | Stros | very crapy connections here |
| 14:56.02 | valdyn | orion_X11: which part of what i told you do you not understand? |
| 14:56.08 | enouf | orion_X11: run the command he told you |
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| 14:56.31 | Stros | would it be less than 600 ? |
| 14:56.36 | parsifal_ | hola |
| 14:56.50 | Stros | parsifal_ : hello there. |
| 14:57.06 | enouf | orion_X11: if you want to know a bit more about his reference to /etc/network/interfaces ; do /msg dpkg interfaces in your irc client |
| 14:57.08 | valdyn | Stros: how are we supposed to know how many packages you have installed? |
| 14:57.10 | parsifal_ | Stros: good morning :) |
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| 14:59.38 | Stros | valdyn : basic install with gnome , apatche php and mysql |
| 14:59.59 | valdyn | Stros: 600 mb is probably a good guess |
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| 15:00.16 | valdyn | Stros: but its easy to run the update command and check for yourself |
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| 15:00.41 | orion_X11 | enouf: I know how to set up the gw and etc > pc ip = 192.168.0.3 = notebook gw |
| 15:00.48 | Stros | valdyn : seems pointless , i know |
| 15:01.06 | orion_X11 | valdyn: enouf it is already set up |
| 15:01.09 | Stros | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:01.16 | enouf | [09:57:59] Ignoring orion_X11!* ... what a relief! |
| 15:01.23 | valdyn | Stros: so check for yourself |
| 15:01.39 | parsifal_ | Do people still use KDE? Is that popular anymore? Or is GNOME pretty much the most popular thing? |
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| 15:01.48 | valdyn | Stros: will get precise information, in here its just guesswork |
| 15:01.50 | Stros | valdyn : yes i will. |
| 15:02.33 | valdyn | orion_X11: show us the corresponding line in the output of the route command |
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| 15:02.50 | kriox | thanks howewer guy |
| 15:03.04 | kriox | s |
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| 15:03.41 | themill | dpkg: tell parsifal_ about popcon |
| 15:04.05 | parsifal_ | themill: haha, that's cool |
| 15:04.19 | parsifal_ | oh this actually affects what goes on the ISOs? that's cool |
| 15:04.37 | valdyn | parsifal_: in which order it goes on the isos |
| 15:04.42 | parsifal_ | actually I already installed this, that's right |
| 15:04.51 | parsifal_ | right, so the most popular stuff goes more towards the beginning |
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| 15:05.41 | parsifal_ | wow, amg64 is more popular than I would have predicted |
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| 15:12.22 | _Maikon_ | theres any way to make my cpu become idle ? |
| 15:12.36 | _Maikon_ | my cpu always is on top, and is hot |
| 15:13.00 | Rokstead1 | _Maikon_: and what process is using it? |
| 15:13.11 | Stros | is it possible to make apt use axel ? |
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| 15:14.08 | _Maikon_ | Rokstead1 since I start the PC it start at top |
| 15:14.28 | Rokstead1 | _Maikon_: try again... explaining it I mean. |
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| 15:15.14 | Stros | any one very tried http://gna.org/projects/apt-axel/ ? |
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| 15:15.41 | abrotman | Stros: there is a bittorrent capable version of apt |
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| 15:15.46 | C-Otto | hi there |
| 15:15.52 | _Maikon_ | Rokstead1, My cpu is hot, 64ºC(lm_sensors) and never is idle, always it is on top, (2000mhz) |
| 15:16.27 | abrotman | _Maikon_: it's possible that lm_sensors isn't working correctly |
| 15:16.29 | valdyn | !cpufrequtils |
| 15:16.32 | Stros | abrotman : that makes things even slower. |
| 15:16.46 | abrotman | Stros: maybe if more people would use it ... |
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| 15:17.09 | Stros | abrotman : maybe :) |
| 15:17.20 | _Maikon_ | 54º |
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| 15:17.50 | _Maikon_ | I want to idle, how can i do that? |
| 15:17.58 | abrotman | Stros: you could look through the bug/wishlist items on the BTS |
| 15:18.08 | _Maikon_ | i don't like my cpu always working at 2000 |
| 15:18.22 | enouf | what cpu? |
| 15:18.34 | _Maikon_ | pentium dual core e2180 |
| 15:18.48 | enouf | is that a core2duo? |
| 15:19.01 | _Maikon_ | no, pentium dual-core |
| 15:19.09 | _Maikon_ | no core 2 |
| 15:19.16 | enouf | oh, duh - you did say pentium |
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| 15:19.38 | enouf | never heard of it, i know the 8xx series pentium dual cores |
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| 15:19.48 | dikdust | Hi I' m tryng to setup a xen environment with lenny and a quad core system. Is better to install lenny amd 64 instead of 32 isn't it ? |
| 15:19.49 | abrotman | it should still be able to scale |
| 15:19.52 | enouf | is that in a laptop? |
| 15:19.55 | _Maikon_ | so, there is any way to make it work idle? |
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| 15:20.10 | abrotman | Stros: i don't see anything related to axel in the bts |
| 15:20.12 | abrotman | !cpufreq |
| 15:20.12 | dpkg | hmm... cpufreq is a patch (http://www.brodo.de/cpufreq_old) to the 2.4.x kernels to support frequency scaling on mobile x86, PowerPC and ARM processors. It has been merged into the 2.6.x series. It provides a simple interface (/proc/cpufreq) through which userspace daemons like cpudynd (in the "cpudyn" package) can throttle processor speed to save power when the system is idle. |
| 15:20.32 | enouf | if the cpu supports speed scaling |
| 15:20.45 | valdyn | _Maikon_: install cpufrequtils, read the docs and /etc/default/cpufrequtils |
| 15:20.58 | _Maikon_ | when i was on ubuntu it was auto |
| 15:21.13 | enouf | i guess it does |
| 15:21.13 | C-Otto | i experience a problem related to xcb (eclipse does not start, i think it is a bug of libxcb in context with xinerama) - do you have any information for that? |
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| 15:21.39 | jaalto | Offtopic: Is this correct phrasing "...each members contribution...", or shoudl be there be "members'"? |
| 15:21.48 | enouf | _Maikon_: go tell #ubuntu they shouldn't do that if you don't like it |
| 15:22.11 | _Maikon_ | am on debian |
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| 15:22.34 | enouf | good advice was given .. for debian |
| 15:22.44 | abrotman | jaalto: #english i think |
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| 15:23.21 | jaalto | abrotman: Just writing docs, and thought if some English speaking could peek |
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| 15:23.51 | _Maikon_ | valdyn CPUFreq Utilities: Setting ondemand CPUFreq governor...disabled, governor not available...done. |
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| 15:24.27 | abrotman | Anarchy! |
| 15:25.09 | enouf | _Maikon_: modprobe acpi_cpufreq (perhaps) and install acpi and acpi-support{-*} pkgs - cat /proc/version says? |
| 15:25.25 | hark | _Maikon_: modprobe cpufreq_ondemand |
| 15:25.30 | enouf | _Maikon_: have you altered SpeedStep setting in BIOS? |
| 15:25.40 | valdyn | gah he didnt even read the docs |
| 15:25.47 | valdyn | _Maikon_: lazy? |
| 15:26.01 | enouf | righto - ad neither have i it seems ;-) |
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| 15:30.39 | melfar | Hello. How can I "flush DNS" after changing resolv.conf? |
| 15:30.50 | Stros | abrotman : it isnt even included in the package directory. |
| 15:30.51 | melfar | I dont' have nscd or named installed |
| 15:31.01 | Kobaz | melfar: are you using a local dns server? |
| 15:31.08 | Kobaz | then. you don't flush it |
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| 15:31.43 | melfar | Kobaz, I don't think so. It's the ISP's (and I had another one, which I deleted) |
| 15:31.57 | Kobaz | you cant flush you isp's dns server |
| 15:32.09 | melfar | Ah ok. I want to clear local dns cache |
| 15:32.12 | melfar | Is there one? |
| 15:32.13 | Kobaz | in windows, you can do ipconfig /flushdns, since windows is retarted and caches dns at the os level |
| 15:32.14 | petemc | melfar: theres no cache |
| 15:32.16 | Kobaz | there isn't one |
| 15:32.40 | enouf | General question; how much different than Debian is AIX? Lots? a little? (i'm reading wikipedia.org atm) -- thanks |
| 15:32.45 | melfar | Huh. I probably still use a wrong DNS server |
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| 15:34.18 | Kobaz | enouf: general concepts are the same in terms of the userland, but the kernel and specific userland is completely different |
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| 15:34.58 | Kobaz | enouf: the aix userland is a pos |
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| 15:35.07 | petemc | smitty isnt bad |
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| 15:35.19 | enouf | Kobaz: i see - anything having to do with 'administering' is completely proprietary - i see it uses SysV |
| 15:35.25 | petemc | i dont think it does |
| 15:35.36 | petemc | it uses its own aix-y type system |
| 15:35.42 | enouf | er administrating* |
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| 15:35.44 | petemc | but can grok sysx and bsd |
| 15:35.47 | petemc | sysv |
| 15:35.52 | DavidVWallin | Yo, Anyone here using a Thinkpad r500? |
| 15:36.04 | monkey_d_luffy | Has anyone connected their laptop to TV using HDMI? I've been able to get image (even though the resolution is messed up), but my problem is that I don't get audio. Doesn't HDMI support audio? |
| 15:36.10 | enouf | oh .. ok - thanks - further comments are welcomed |
| 15:36.33 | enouf | even if you need to PM me, for o-t ness |
| 15:37.09 | DavidVWallin | i want to run debian 5 on my thinkpad r500 and i just wanna know that there wont be a problem with my intel 5100 wireless card and that it'll be really easy connecting to a wpa2 network |
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| 15:40.21 | Stros | is it possible to boot debian to text mode without having to use update-rc.d -f gdm remove ? |
| 15:40.43 | Stros | and then change it to update-rc.d -f gdm defaults |
| 15:40.51 | hark | DavidVWallin: you might need a newer kernel than the one in lenny |
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| 15:41.02 | DavidVWallin | hark: i do? |
| 15:41.12 | hark | !iwlagn |
| 15:41.12 | dpkg | i heard iwlagn is the driver for Intel 5100BG/ABG/ABN, 5300AGN and 5350AGN series of wireless LAN adapters. Included in mainline kernels since 2.6.27 ("modprobe iwlagn"). Use a Debian kernel snapshot (ask me about <trunk kernel>) to acquire this driver for Lenny systems. Also ask me about <iwlagn firmware>. http://wiki.debian.org/iwlagn |
| 15:41.14 | Stros | maybe some line i could add to boot :D |
| 15:41.19 | DavidVWallin | hark: i've used the iwlwifi-4965 before but that package didn't seem to be in the lenny repo |
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| 15:41.54 | abrotman | Stros: single user mode ?> |
| 15:41.55 | DavidVWallin | hark: ooh thanks |
| 15:42.07 | hark | Stros: /msg dpkg nodm |
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| 15:42.56 | Stros | " a temporary solution is to hit ctl-alt-fN to get to a console." lol |
| 15:43.21 | ewet | hi, is there any objective information about the efficiency of linux virus scanners (foss or not)? or is it just hopeless? |
| 15:43.34 | Stros | abrotman : no |
| 15:43.46 | Stros | i dont want gnome to give me problems when upgrading to lenny |
| 15:44.13 | dob1 | there is a guide to migrate from lilo to grub? |
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| 15:44.42 | Stros | so im thinking to upgrade under text mode not gue |
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| 15:44.59 | abrotman | Stros: so shut it down |
| 15:45.23 | abrotman | dob1: install grub, purge lilo |
| 15:45.23 | AnyFile | After upgrading from etch to lenny, my usb printer does not work. Under cups I can not find the usb driver |
| 15:45.26 | AnyFile | Do I need toinstal the package hal-cups-utils ? |
| 15:45.31 | dob1 | abrotman: simple. but i have to configure it too |
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| 15:45.53 | Stros | abrotman : no line to could be added to stop xstart from running at boot ? |
| 15:46.14 | Stros | that* |
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| 15:46.41 | abrotman | dob1: not really .. or you could try to use grub2+os-prober |
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| 15:47.22 | dob1 | abrotman: maybe this is true if you use a kernel image from a debian package, or the same for a custom kernel? |
| 15:47.25 | DeSian | any way to compile thunderbird 3 beta under Lenny? |
| 15:47.32 | abrotman | dob1: AFAIK same either way |
| 15:47.41 | abrotman | DeSian: try it and let usk now |
| 15:47.47 | AnyFile | or do I need to use the AppSocket Protocol? |
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| 15:48.09 | DeSian | abrotman: i try it -> "bash: ./configure: No such file or directory" |
| 15:48.26 | abrotman | maybe you should read their instructions before bothering us |
| 15:48.43 | DeSian | abrotman: which one? |
| 15:48.57 | abrotman | presumably the ones on their website or in the tar.gz |
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| 15:49.07 | orgthingy | "pico README" or "pico INSTALLØ· |
| 15:49.09 | abrotman | maybe you should go to #thunderbird on irc.mozilla.org |
| 15:49.11 | Hohlraum | hey guys, is there an option in the lenny netinst installer to do full system encryption? |
| 15:49.15 | orgthingy | "pico INSTALL" * |
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| 15:50.31 | DeSian | abrotman: i'm not so stupid :) before i put the question her, googled ! |
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| 15:50.46 | abrotman | you're still asking the wrong place |
| 15:50.51 | orgthingy | before putting a question here, look for a README file i guess |
| 15:51.21 | DeSian | abrotman: if the ./configure dont worked under debian is her wrong place? |
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| 15:51.45 | abrotman | read the install documentation |
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| 15:52.12 | DeSian | orgthingy: the readme file is nothing http://paste.debian.net/29025/ |
| 15:52.20 | DeSian | ok abrotman thnx |
| 15:52.21 | AnyFile | where can I get some information about cups? |
| 15:52.36 | dob1 | DeSian: maybe the configure doesn't find some lib |
| 15:52.46 | Hohlraum | nevermind found it |
| 15:52.50 | abrotman | DeSian: that is not install documentation .. go ask #thunderbird on irc.mozilla.org |
| 15:53.16 | DeSian | abrotman: i was in #thunderbird before, thnx |
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| 15:54.55 | DeSian | dob1: think so to. i try again with google :) |
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| 15:55.37 | linuxguy | AnyFile, how about the kitchen |
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| 15:59.24 | claint | i am trying to install sun-java-jre from remote by using aptitude in a script. The licence notification requires user intervention and that breaks the automagicness of my script. Anyone know of a way to accept the licence beforehand or skip the license by other means? |
| 15:59.58 | claint | \ |
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| 16:00.55 | melfar | claint, echo y | apt-get ... ? |
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| 16:01.10 | stew | claint: you could maek your own package, but you'd not be allowed to distribute it |
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| 16:01.19 | ebilpanda | When will unstable resume receiving new packages? |
| 16:01.33 | stew | ebilpanda: it hasn't stopped receiving new packages |
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| 16:02.10 | claint | i am guessing accepting the licence modifies some file somewhere, i'll go look for it, so i can accept the license beforehand |
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| 16:02.51 | stew | claint: why not use openjdk which is free instead? |
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| 16:03.21 | ebilpanda | stew: When I search for 'kernel' at packages.debian.org, sid appears to have the 2.6.26 kernel in the repos |
| 16:03.24 | AnyFile | My cups, soes not detect my usb printer. I worked before I updated from etch to lenny. I can see the printer in /proc/bus/usb/devices but I can not see it in cups. What can I do? |
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| 16:03.46 | claint | stew: i haven't tested it yet. |
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| 16:04.00 | claint | stew: but it is in things to do. |
| 16:04.04 | stew | ebilpanda: http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=linux-image-2.6.28 |
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| 16:04.18 | ebilpanda | stew: hmm, will try |
| 16:05.28 | ebilpanda | stew: that appears to be only for the amd64 architecture. What's up? |
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| 16:05.37 | stew | ebilpanda: its still building on the ohter arches |
| 16:05.42 | stew | ebilpanda: https://buildd.debian.org/pkg.cgi?pkg=linux-2.6 |
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| 16:06.38 | ebilpanda | that's a cool page. Thanks! |
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| 16:07.10 | ebilpanda | stew: that's a cool page. Thanks! |
| 16:07.54 | ebilpanda | stew: why does the debian.org page never contain useful URLs like that? |
| 16:08.19 | stew | ebilpanda: you just have to dig deeper, try http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/ |
| 16:08.37 | ebilpanda | stew: OK, thanks a lot |
| 16:10.50 | debianforlife | that build page is pretty nice! |
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| 16:11.42 | debianforlife | BTW, what does debian for a compiling system? |
| 16:12.06 | abrotman | abacus |
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| 16:12.48 | stew | debianforlife: i think you are missing a verb in that sentence? |
| 16:13.20 | debianforlife | there was supposed to be a "have" before the "for" ... |
| 16:13.45 | debianforlife | but you still understood what I was trying to say :P |
| 16:13.58 | stew | debianforlife: the official build servers use 'sbuild'. there are other systems in debian which are better suited for endusers like pbuilder |
| 16:14.30 | debianforlife | cool, thanks |
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| 16:19.42 | themill | Everyone seems to want verbs today. Me, jelly, now stew... There must be a worldwide shortage. |
| 16:19.54 | monkey_d_luffy | How do I redirect audio over HDMI when connection my laptop to the TV? It works fine in windoze. |
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| 16:20.18 | monkey_d_luffy | At least in kmix only one audio device is recognized. |
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| 16:20.59 | labadu | hi |
| 16:21.12 | labadu | how is metacity started on login to gnome? |
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| 16:21.32 | labadu | I mean which script or mechanism starts it |
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| 16:22.04 | gebi | hi all :) |
| 16:22.13 | labadu | howdy |
| 16:22.32 | gebi | i've installed debian lenny with / on raid-on-lvm and a seperate boot partition |
| 16:22.44 | gebi | how can i force the initramfs to first initialise the lvm and then the raid |
| 16:23.06 | gebi | as it just stops during bootup and says it can't find any device from the raid (for /) |
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| 16:25.12 | labadu | save session ! |
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| 16:26.56 | ffizz | is "deleteme" a user account that is generated by debian or software or should i worry about this |
| 16:27.51 | jelly | worry |
| 16:27.54 | jpinx | is there a method of putting a line in fstab that will be executed after a delay (to give me time to get the wifi connected) |
| 16:28.54 | ffizz | jelly: there is also a user account "irc" although i dont have ircd or an irc client installed |
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| 16:37.01 | enouf | jpinx: what? |
| 16:37.33 | enouf | some nfs mount over wifi? |
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| 16:37.55 | jelly | ffizz: there are a lot of predefined system accounts with uids lower than 100. |
| 16:37.56 | jpinx | enouf: yes - I have gmailfs working, but I need it to automount after a delay |
| 16:38.14 | jelly | ffizz: irc:x:39:39:ircd:/var/run/ircd:/bin/sh is one of them. |
| 16:38.28 | enouf | jpinx: put a script in your DE or use /etc/rc.local |
| 16:38.56 | jpinx | enouf: ah - ok - I'll look at that - never done it before ;) |
| 16:39.05 | enouf | jpinx: leave any needed fstab entries as 'noauto' |
| 16:39.29 | enouf | and whatever other options you need |
| 16:39.42 | enouf | !gmailfs |
| 16:39.42 | dpkg | it has been said that gmailfs is a hack to let your gmail account be mounted as a local filesystem, http://richard.jones.name/google-hacks/gmail-filesystem/gmail-filesystem.html, or http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/002476.html |
| 16:39.58 | enouf | *shrugs* |
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| 16:40.24 | jpinx | enouf: it's remote storage for my eee.pc which has a very small hdd |
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| 16:40.42 | ffizz | jelly: thx |
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| 16:42.22 | kr1s | hey guys I need to run a specific command on bootup - where do I place it? Im using Lenny |
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| 16:45.22 | Pryon | kr1s: /etc/rc.local |
| 16:45.41 | themill | dpkg: tell kr1s about startup |
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| 16:49.09 | kr1s | thanks guys |
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| 16:53.43 | kolpur | i'm unable to save my bookmarks in iceweasel ..i.e., if i bookmark a site and close iceweasel for sometime n restart iceweasel i'm not able to see the bookmarks |
| 16:54.09 | kolpur | **if i bookmark a site |
| 16:54.21 | kolpur | anyone please help me out .. |
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| 17:06.51 | xand | to make a network interface (eth1) come up on boot but with no IP enabled, is it sufficient to put "auto eth1" in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 17:17.37 | I_Died_Once | what is a programa vailable in debian that will allow you t otake multi-frame screenshots on a video file in debian? (like a preview of what the video quality looks like) ????? |
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| 17:17.51 | DragoraN | hi all, anyone can help me please with my HP Smart Array 5i ? i have raid 5 and it is recovering for 13 hours and still not finished |
| 17:17.58 | DragoraN | i have debian installed there ;( |
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| 17:19.27 | jelly | DragoraN: so let it work. What are you using to check the state of the array, hpacucli or something else? |
| 17:20.05 | DragoraN | jelly: cciss_vol_status, hpacucli is impossible to install on lenny :( |
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| 17:20.31 | DragoraN | jelly: let it work? 13 hours is more than enough i think |
| 17:21.02 | jelly | DragoraN: impossible? Doesn't it basically just need old libstdc++? |
| 17:21.26 | DragoraN | jelly: well, without breaking the system apart :( do you have any idea? |
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| 17:21.53 | jelly | DragoraN: never used cciss_vol_status, so no idea, sorry |
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| 17:21.55 | DragoraN | jelly: yes, the libstc++ is the problem |
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| 17:22.44 | jelly | !ops Cheeese DCC spam |
| 17:22.44 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: jelly complains about: Cheeese DCC spam |
| 17:22.48 | stew | jelly: on it... |
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| 17:22.57 | jelly | kthx |
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| 17:23.15 | DragoraN | starkeylogger :)) |
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| 17:23.55 | jelly | DragoraN: it needed lib from libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 afair |
| 17:24.01 | dan-ny | was is das denn? |
| 17:24.30 | dan-ny | naja wayne |
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| 17:25.34 | jelly | DragoraN: http://snapshot.debian.net/archive/2006/07/14/debian/pool/main/g/gcc-2.95/libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2_2.95.4-27_i386.deb :-D |
| 17:26.02 | jelly | DragoraN: I think we just extracted the library and put it in /usr/local/lib |
| 17:26.07 | QWonder | i just installed debian 5.0 on my old iMac G3... the installation went fine but on first boot everything seems fine but then the scree just goes black |
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| 17:26.22 | jelly | DragoraN: was easier than doing it the dpkg-happy way |
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| 17:29.43 | ldp | LOL DONGS |
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| 17:29.46 | ldp | I mean, hi |
| 17:30.05 | QWonder | lspci tells me ATI Rage 128 Pro Ultra TR |
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| 17:31.19 | QWonder | but then in dmesg it says "agpgart: Couldn't find an AGP VGA controller. agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at 0000:00:0b.0 into 0x mode. agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at 0000:00:10.0 into 0x mode" |
| 17:32.01 | QWonder | lsmod lists r128, i'm guessing that's the rage 128 driver? |
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| 17:33.57 | I_Died_Once | what program is good to take screenshots (multiframe) of a video file? |
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| 17:34.29 | valdyn | I_Died_Once: mplayer |
| 17:34.55 | DragoraN | jelly: i will try |
| 17:34.55 | syntax_enable | Odd question. on my computer, my caps-lock just kinda got reversed. now when the light is on, it is lower can and visa versa. Anyone know how to switch this? (besides a restart) |
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| 17:35.15 | jelly | DragoraN: which model is the machine, how old\? |
| 17:35.15 | UukGoblin | hi |
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| 17:35.35 | berat | hey |
| 17:35.36 | DragoraN | jelly: DL380 G3, HP Smart Array 5i |
| 17:35.40 | UukGoblin | is it just me, or are packages broken for 'gnuradio'? |
| 17:35.46 | UukGoblin | I'm getting: http://pastebin.com/m53b3df07 |
| 17:35.48 | berat | are there a command to learn processor model |
| 17:35.56 | berat | such as core 2 duo 2.66 ghz |
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| 17:36.16 | giaco | hello |
| 17:36.29 | berat | i mean |
| 17:36.31 | giaco | do you know how can I mount a remote ftp folder locally |
| 17:36.38 | berat | are there a command to learn processor type |
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| 17:37.23 | dmoerner | berat: cat /proc/cpuinfo |
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| 17:37.38 | MaQuiche | Hi, i'm trying to watch video with vlc but i can't see anything (the sound is ok). I am under debian 5 (amd64) and it seems like ffmpeg cannot be load by vlc. You can found more details here: http://pastebin.com/m53f5da82 Thanks for help |
| 17:37.40 | I_Died_Once | syntax_enable - try installing numlockx |
| 17:37.46 | I_Died_Once | or it is xnumlock ??? |
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| 17:37.53 | I_Died_Once | one or the other |
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| 17:38.16 | DragoraN | jelly: ok, working :) thanks, any idea for the hpacucli commands? |
| 17:38.40 | I_Died_Once | also, make sure your keyboard is clean and does not have a shift key sticking down |
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| 17:39.12 | wp | hello |
| 17:39.24 | wp | does someone in here know how i can send a gratious arp on debian? |
| 17:39.31 | jelly | DragoraN: um... start with "hpacucli ctrl all show detail" ;-) |
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| 17:42.22 | jelly | DragoraN: and something like hpacucli ctrl slot=0 array all show detail (slot number may vary) |
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| 17:42.48 | DragoraN | jelly: about the first cmd, what should i search for |
| 17:43.00 | DragoraN | rebuild priority lowjelly: |
| 17:43.10 | DragoraN | jelly: rebuild priority low |
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| 17:44.09 | jelly | DragoraN: well, find your way thru "hpacucli help" to change it |
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| 17:44.36 | jelly | DragoraN: before that I'd check the state of the array, though |
| 17:45.17 | jelly | DragoraN: I don't know the gory details of its syntax off the top of my head |
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| 17:45.47 | semper | hi |
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| 17:46.28 | jelly | DragoraN: if your system is reasonably busy and there's a lot of disks in the raid5 (say, all 8?), I could see it taking 24hrs to rebuild or more |
| 17:46.31 | semper | is there an working online virusscanner for my box? |
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| 17:46.54 | jelly | semper: what's an online virusscaner? |
| 17:47.42 | semper | mostly java or activex stuff. latter is out sure but the jave stuff doesnt work either |
| 17:48.09 | jelly | I mean, what is it supposed to do, compared to a "normal" virus scanner? |
| 17:48.28 | valdyn | MaQuiche: check the packages involved with debsums |
| 17:48.59 | semper | other engine, wider range of security before runningstuff on the production box |
| 17:49.56 | valdyn | semper: theres not really virus scanners for linux at all |
| 17:50.09 | valdyn | semper: and no online scanner either |
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| 17:50.56 | semper | so for what use do i type the clamscan in my console? |
| 17:50.57 | jelly | semper: I'd use normal scanners without the web ui. |
| 17:51.15 | valdyn | semper: to scan for windows viruses |
| 17:51.17 | enouf | !normal |
| 17:51.17 | dpkg | There's no such thing as normal. Only different. |
| 17:51.32 | jelly | dpkg: shut up |
| 17:51.32 | dpkg | Kiss my shiny metal ass! |
| 17:51.44 | semper | is there more beside avg and clam? |
| 17:51.49 | enouf | !enouf |
| 17:51.49 | dpkg | Cut it out! |
| 17:52.21 | semper | does wine run any scanners properly |
| 17:52.22 | jelly | semper: sophos and that f-secure company had products for Linux too |
| 17:52.30 | semper | free stuff? |
| 17:52.41 | jelly | no idea |
| 17:52.42 | enouf | !beer |
| 17:52.42 | dpkg | somebody said beer was liquid gold mate |
| 17:52.55 | semper | yep the ones that sell it |
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| 17:53.30 | semper | ;) having a holsten pilsner right now ;) |
| 17:53.34 | jelly | semper: what's your use case? |
| 17:53.48 | jelly | (for the av scanner, not the beer) |
| 17:54.41 | valdyn | run webbrowser as root and scan the system for viruses ;) |
| 17:54.57 | semper | scanning uploaded stuff which i'd like to chain in to my win based production stuff. can't afford to get harming stuff in that even that there the network card is closed down. |
| 17:54.59 | MaQuiche | valdyn, debsums vlc ffmpeg returns me OK for all the elements |
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| 17:56.24 | semper | like pics, plugs typical files for that sys. just want to make sure i can run a project ithout loosing days by reinnstalling, setting up, etc.. |
| 17:56.36 | semper | w |
| 17:56.51 | valdyn | MaQuiche: what's the package versions for both vlc and ffmpeg? |
| 17:57.06 | jelly | semper: I'd use clamav (or all the free ones you can get your hands on) and a commercial product; perhaps recheck after 24 hours. |
| 17:57.32 | elpargo | hello, I'm trying to build a package. my system reports build-essential is installed but when I run my package's scripts I'm getting error like libtooltize not found and aclocal, aren't those packages supposed to be pulled in b build-essential? |
| 17:58.04 | semper | do so. thx. must do dist update anyway.. ;) hope it works ;)) |
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| 17:58.11 | valdyn | elpargo: apt-get build-dep <package-to-build> |
| 17:58.27 | jelly | elpargo: not really, libtool and autotools aren't needed for everything |
| 17:58.30 | semper | bye |
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| 17:58.54 | MaQuiche | valdyn, vlc: 0.8.6.h-4+lenny2 / ffmpeg: 0.svn20080206-17 |
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| 17:59.46 | elpargo | valdyn: that won't work as I'm building from source. |
| 18:00.02 | valdyn | elpargo: its REQUIRED to build from source |
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| 18:00.26 | valdyn | elpargo: and you are free to do the work that a debian tool does automagically by hand |
| 18:00.33 | Eulex | elpargo, if a version of the package is in debian, that will most likely get you the deps |
| 18:00.37 | elpargo | valdyn: what I mean is that the "package" i'm building has no debian package. |
| 18:00.48 | QWonder | what file do i edit to change the runlevel? |
| 18:00.57 | Eulex | !runlevel |
| 18:00.57 | dpkg | 0 is halt, 1 is single user, 2, 3, 4, 5 are multiuser, 6 is reboot. By default 2, 3, 4 and 5 are identical (no graphic/non-graphic runlevels), but you can configure this if you wish. Read /usr/share/doc/sysvinit/*; read /etc/init.d/README; man update-rc.d; if that doesn't make sense, consider installing <rcconf> instead. http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/212, or ask me about <startup>, or for a real twist, see <file-rc> |
| 18:01.07 | valdyn | elpargo: then you get to read the INSTALL or README file and install build depends by hand |
| 18:01.22 | stew | QWonder: what do you mean? you want to change the default runlevel? or you want to change what starts in a given runlevel? |
| 18:01.31 | elpargo | Eulex: valdyn there is a version of the package in debian just not on stable which (sadly) is forced on to this server. |
| 18:01.37 | Eulex | QWonder, basically, you don't. |
| 18:01.38 | valdyn | elpargo: or maybe there is a debian package and you just dont know it |
| 18:01.42 | Eulex | most often, that is. |
| 18:01.45 | QWonder | stew: i want to change the default runlevel |
| 18:01.48 | Eulex | !tell elpargo about ssb |
| 18:01.51 | Eulex | QWonder, why? |
| 18:01.54 | stew | QWonder: edit /etc/inittab ; but why? |
| 18:02.16 | QWonder | i need to because Xserver isn't working, i just get a black screen. when i try to kill it my screen just goes black, even from a terminal |
| 18:02.23 | elpargo | valdyn: yea everything above etch has packages for couchdb :) |
| 18:02.24 | stew | elpargo: which software are ou compiling? |
| 18:02.24 | QWonder | and i can't run Xserver -configure with it running |
| 18:02.34 | Eulex | QWonder, boot into single user mode and fix it. |
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| 18:03.06 | QWonder | how do i boot into single user mode? |
| 18:03.11 | stew | QWonder: "/etc/init.d/?dm stop" would probably stop the X server |
| 18:03.17 | Eulex | you choose single user mode from grub |
| 18:03.20 | stew | QWonder: (after you hit ctrl-alt-f1 to get to a text console) |
| 18:03.46 | QWonder | i just changed it to runlevel one and restarted |
| 18:03.48 | QWonder | thanks |
| 18:03.58 | stew | QWonder: you could also try "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org" or "X -configure" to reconfigure X |
| 18:04.07 | QWonder | i don't have grub, it's an old iMac and i need to use yaboot |
| 18:05.05 | elpargo | Eulex: & others, the thing is I'm not allowed to add sid to the server, as it's production. |
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| 18:05.22 | valdyn | MaQuiche: i am looking into this btw |
| 18:05.33 | lord_rob | Hi ! Unhappy that xmms in Debian crashes all the time, I've decided to remove the package and use another player. Now I see that xmms is obsolete/locally created. Is there a new package that supersedes it ? xmms2 ? |
| 18:05.49 | elpargo | if I could just pull this package from there and everything else form Etch I'll do it, but I don't know how. |
| 18:06.29 | MaQuiche | valdyn, thanks |
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| 18:06.47 | dmoerner | lord_rob: consider audacious |
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| 18:07.49 | ganiman | I am trying to upgrade some packages on an older debian machine, but whenever I try to do anything with apt, I get the following: http://pastebin.com/d2cdb2f5f |
| 18:08.08 | QWonder | hmm, Xorg -configure says "(WW) ****INVALID IO ALLOCATION**** b: 0xf0000400 e: 0xf00004ff correcting" then "(EE) end of block range 0xefffffff < begin 0xf0000000" then "(EE) R128(0): cannot read V_BIOS (5)" |
| 18:08.12 | ganiman | I cannot seem to upgrade libc6 or anything else for that matter |
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| 18:08.30 | elpargo | jelly: ok so I got autotools-dev but it's still failing with 'aclocal' shouldn't that be there? |
| 18:08.37 | stew | ganiman: you are trying to upgrade from etch to sqeeze or sid, skipping lenny which is not supported |
| 18:08.53 | Eulex | elpargo, the instructions dpkg sent to you says to add a deb-src line, not a deb line. |
| 18:09.06 | stew | ganiman: /msg dpkg etch->lenny |
| 18:09.06 | ganiman | stew: so I need to upgrade to lenny first? |
| 18:09.09 | stew | ganiman: yes |
| 18:09.16 | Federico2 | bye |
| 18:09.22 | valdyn | MaQuiche: i would need the whole output of that ldd you ran: ldd -r /usr/lib/vlc/codec/libffmpeg_plugin.so |
| 18:09.38 | Eulex | elpargo, also, taking a binary package from sid and then installing it on stable will most likely fail. the instructions dpkg sent to you details rebuilding the package for stable. |
| 18:09.48 | ganiman | stew: thanks |
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| 18:10.04 | jelly | elpargo: what are you trying to build? |
| 18:10.36 | jelly | elpargo: /msg dpkg find bin/aclocal |
| 18:10.39 | elpargo | Eulex: perhaps I'm too new to debian to understand the difference there. will this means that it will not update apt-get install and other non-source commands? |
| 18:10.43 | jelly | !tell elpargo -about search |
| 18:11.00 | Eulex | elpargo, correct, |
| 18:11.09 | elpargo | jelly: couchdb from trunk. |
| 18:11.27 | Eulex | elpargo, deb-src lines affect the source package lists, while deb lines affect the binary package lists |
| 18:11.29 | MaQuiche | valdyn, here is the result: http://pastebin.com/m65cf6a6a |
| 18:11.37 | valdyn | MaQuiche: or you can check the whole list yourself, its at "https://valdyn.org/~valdyn/list", |
| 18:11.51 | elpargo | Eulex: umm I see ok let me try that then. and if they yell at me :p it's already build. |
| 18:12.04 | jelly | elpargo: I gather "apt-get build-dep couchdb" should install most of the needed stuff if not all |
| 18:12.19 | monkey_d_luffy | I bought an SD card with 4GB, but unfortunately my camera only supports cards up to 1GB. Is there any way to work around this? |
| 18:12.23 | MaQuiche | valdyn, i check that |
| 18:12.25 | elpargo | Eulex: I'm not too used to "source packages" I have had gentoo and ubuntu which are two extremes of each option :) |
| 18:12.59 | Eulex | elpargo, a source package in debian may produce one or more binary package when built. |
| 18:13.01 | nkuttler | monkey_d_luffy: camera? |
| 18:13.18 | monkey_d_luffy | nkuttler: photographs |
| 18:13.33 | elpargo | jelly: not in stable as couch is not there. but with Eulex tip I think I can get the source package from testing while still maintaining the server "stable" |
| 18:13.35 | nkuttler | monkey_d_luffy: does it run debian? |
| 18:13.58 | Eulex | elpargo, correct. follow the instructions of dpkg; ask us if you run into problems. |
| 18:14.04 | elpargo | Eulex: yea I'm kind of familiar with the terminology I just need some real world experience :) |
| 18:14.05 | jelly | elpargo: what do you mean, not there? |
| 18:14.07 | nkuttler | monkey_d_luffy: anyway, you could try to partition the card.. |
| 18:14.14 | jelly | judd: versions couchdb |
| 18:14.15 | judd | jelly: couchdb -- lenny: 0.8.0-2 sid: 0.8.0-2 squeeze: 0.8.0-2 experimental: 0.8.1-1 |
| 18:14.17 | monkey_d_luffy | nkuttler: hun? I don't connect my camera to my desktop. I only move the SD card around. |
| 18:14.24 | Eulex | elpargo, note that if you're unlucky, you may need to backport more than couchdb... |
| 18:14.28 | monkey_d_luffy | nkuttler: and what is the filesystem? |
| 18:14.32 | elpargo | jelly: there is no "Etch" couchdb |
| 18:14.38 | jelly | elpargo: etch is not stable |
| 18:14.39 | lord_rob | thanks dmoerner |
| 18:14.50 | elpargo | no? |
| 18:14.51 | jelly | elpargo: etch is oldstable now. |
| 18:14.52 | nkuttler | monkey_d_luffy: your question is totally unrelated to debian it seems. tried the manufacturer tech support? |
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| 18:15.17 | jelly | elpargo: see the topic, lenny is stable now. |
| 18:15.27 | elpargo | ohh since when? |
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| 18:15.48 | Eulex | elpargo, since feb 13 |
| 18:15.51 | Eulex | *14 |
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| 18:16.07 | elpargo | damn, bad timing. |
| 18:16.11 | monkey_d_luffy | nkuttler: yes, it's unrelated. sorry |
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| 18:16.59 | elpargo | so we may as well get this to lenny and be done with it. |
| 18:17.20 | jelly | elpargo: right, "it reinstalls the server and uses versions from stable" |
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| 18:17.48 | jelly | there's still a newer couchdb to build if you really need it, though |
| 18:18.21 | valdyn | MaQuiche: gah, that was the wrong track |
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| 18:18.40 | elpargo | jelly: well yes I need 0.9 (trunk) but I'll prefer to have just one package build like that. |
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| 18:19.10 | zirimola | HELPPPPPPPP |
| 18:19.11 | elpargo | jelly: sorry you lost me there what does "it" means on that sentence? |
| 18:19.12 | zirimola | i need help |
| 18:19.18 | jelly | elpargo: you |
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| 18:19.23 | zirimola | what is the solution for this error |
| 18:19.24 | zirimola | clienteDell:/etc# /etc/init.d/nis start |
| 18:19.24 | zirimola | Starting NIS services: ypbindbinding to YP server...........................................failed (backgrounded). |
| 18:19.24 | zirimola | . |
| 18:19.24 | zirimola | clienteDell:/etc |
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| 18:19.44 | Eulex | elpargo, then you can't use a debian source package. you could perhaps use the debian source package from experimental, extract the 0.9 tarball into it and see if it works. |
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| 18:20.04 | Eulex | elpargo, newest version in debian is 0.8.1 from experimental |
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| 18:20.37 | jelly | right, that source + uupdate seems like it could have some change of success |
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| 18:20.47 | valdyn | MaQuiche: id install mplayer, see if it plays |
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| 18:21.03 | nick4 | Does Synaptic keep a historicity of the changes i did? I installed some OpenGL libraries that forced other OpenGL libraries to uninstall and now the nvidia driver doesn't start. |
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| 18:21.09 | elpargo | Eulex: can't I just get the deps with the build-dep command and then use make for the trunk ? |
| 18:21.17 | zirimola | clienteDell:/etc# yptest |
| 18:21.17 | zirimola | Test 1: domainname |
| 18:21.17 | zirimola | Configured domainname is "servidorAcerNis" Test 2: ypbind |
| 18:21.17 | zirimola | can't yp_bind: Reason: No se pudo conectar con el dominio |
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| 18:21.20 | valdyn | MaQuiche: and you might need libxvidcore*, which mplayer already depends on as far as i can see |
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| 18:21.35 | stew | !tell zirimola about paste |
| 18:21.42 | stew | zirimola: please don't flood this channel |
| 18:21.42 | elpargo | zirimola: could you please use a pastebin |
| 18:21.47 | zirimola | OK |
| 18:21.50 | zirimola | sorry |
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| 18:22.01 | Eulex | elpargo, you certainly could. it will be untracked by dpkg then, which may not be the best idea. but your choice. |
| 18:22.04 | zirimola | I have a problem |
| 18:22.13 | Eulex | you said that |
| 18:22.17 | zirimola | my NIS CLIENT |
| 18:22.17 | jelly | zirimola: also consider using the english locale (export LANG=C) when pasting the errors |
| 18:22.25 | myeggo | hello, is there a way to resolv a mac address to an ip? |
| 18:22.33 | stew | nick4: i don't know about synaptic, there is /var/log/dpkg.log which would show what synaptic has done |
| 18:22.54 | nick4 | ok thanks stew |
| 18:23.08 | zirimola | Starting NIS services: ypbindbinding to YP server .................... failed (backgrounded) |
| 18:23.16 | zirimola | what is the solution? |
| 18:23.18 | elpargo | Eulex: we are testing this and sadly need trunk, I'm not sure of there is a deb for this. |
| 18:23.22 | stew | myeggo: man arp |
| 18:23.32 | myeggo | ah, thank you |
| 18:23.47 | Eulex | elpargo, as I said, you could perhaps create one, per above instructions. |
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| 18:25.05 | MaQuiche | valdyn, it works fine with mplayer thanks. i'll try to fix it with vlc. :) |
| 18:25.59 | ganiman | stew: my etch installation is |
| 18:26.02 | ganiman | err |
| 18:26.10 | jintxo | any postfix + domainkeys or dkim users? I'm looking to get started with dkim or domainkeys and wonder what filter/daemon others are using. particularly looking at dkim-filter package. any suggestions? thanks. |
| 18:26.17 | ganiman | stew: my etch installation is "up to date", but I'm still failing on moving on with this upgrade |
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| 18:26.38 | stew | ganiman: show us the actual command you typed and the actual output, use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
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| 18:28.44 | ganiman | stew: http://pastebin.com/d381756cd |
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| 18:29.06 | zirimola | someone knows this the solution for this error in debian/nis |
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| 18:30.02 | valdyn | MaQuiche: just fyi, those unresolved symbolx are not a problem. |
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| 18:31.32 | newsense | should /etc/debian_version reflect squeezes version number if i have squeeze in my sources ad have ran aptitude full-upgrade |
| 18:31.57 | stew | newsense: not until squeeze is near release |
| 18:32.11 | newsense | stew ok great, thanks |
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| 18:32.32 | stew | ganiman: what version of coreutils is installed? |
| 18:32.36 | jelly | stew: lenny said lenny/sid in its base-files for quite a whiel |
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| 18:33.20 | DragoraN | uptime shows high CPU load, but no process in TOP is running 100%, what can be the cause? some module? |
| 18:33.21 | stew | jelly: right |
| 18:33.21 | ganiman | how do I check version? |
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| 18:35.00 | newsense | ganiman: dpkg -l coreutils |tail -1 |
| 18:35.46 | parsifal_ | if I already have Windows installed, is it possible to install Debian alongside it? I know I can have grub be in the mbr, but I'm concerned about how partitioning will work |
| 18:35.47 | ganiman | stew: coreutils 5.2.1-2 |
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| 18:36.24 | stew | ganiman: aha, you need to upgrade to etch before upgrading to lenny |
| 18:36.30 | stew | judd: versions coreutils |
| 18:36.30 | judd | stew: coreutils -- etch: 5.97-5.3 lenny: 6.10-6 squeeze: 6.10-6 sid: 7.1-1 |
| 18:36.48 | stew | ganiman: /msg dpkg sarge->etch |
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| 18:37.11 | ganiman | I put etch sources in sources.list, aptitude update, aptitude dist-upgrade, and it doesn't upgrade anything as if it thinks it is current for etch |
| 18:37.30 | parsifal_ | actually I may have to just use VirtualBox.. hm, |
| 18:37.31 | parsifal_ | hmm |
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| 18:39.33 | QWonder | in a clean install of debian 5, how should i define vesa as the driver in xorg.conf. i tried Driver "vesa" when i run startx it says not found, is there some package i need to install? |
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| 18:40.02 | hark | QWonder: install xorg |
| 18:40.32 | nkuttler | QWonder: xserver-xorg-video-vesa, but that should be installed if you installed x |
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| 18:40.56 | nkuttler | QWonder: can you paste your xorg.conf? |
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| 18:41.40 | QWonder | yeah, hold on, i have an ati rage 128 and i was useing r128 as the drivers, i just switched to ati to see if that helps so i might not need to |
| 18:41.41 | XLV | nkuttler, i just upgraded from etch to lenny, it doesnt install all x11 modules.. i had to install sis module by hand |
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| 18:42.09 | XLV | so QWonder aptitude install xserver-xorg-video-vesa |
| 18:42.13 | unsolo | anyone around here used http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-etch/ lately ? |
| 18:42.29 | QWonder | i guess that didn't make any difference, i just get all sorts of garbage on the screen |
| 18:42.48 | QWonder | and the cursor pops up on top of it every once in a while |
| 18:44.17 | XLV | QWonder, for me the previous xorg.conf i was using with etch worked, after installng sis module ( pci sis 6328, its a server ) |
| 18:44.48 | XLV | QWonder, so if its a new installation, maybe some extra tweaking in xorg.conf, on the "device" section? |
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| 18:47.24 | QWonder | yeah, i'm not sure what i need to change, it's an old imac g3, i've added some stuff that other people on forums suggested worked with their imacs but it isn't really helping me |
| 18:47.49 | XLV | QWonder, also Driver "vesa" doesnt work... you need to add Option "UseFBDev" "true" in "devive" section |
| 18:48.01 | XLV | QWonder, if you want to use vesa module that is |
| 18:48.02 | QWonder | UseFBDev is already set to true |
| 18:48.08 | QWonder | so i guess i'm set |
| 18:48.12 | QWonder | i'm trying the vesa driver now |
| 18:48.28 | XLV | QWonder, remove driver "vesa" line if you have one in there |
| 18:48.42 | XLV | just option "usefbev".. |
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| 18:49.39 | QWonder | alright |
| 18:49.42 | QWonder | hmm |
| 18:49.49 | QWonder | looks like it just crashed over and over again |
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| 18:50.16 | QWonder | heh, (EE) No devices detected. |
| 18:50.46 | XLV | QWonder, did you install vesa module? |
| 18:51.20 | QWonder | yeah, and i used driver "vesa" |
| 18:51.23 | XLV | so QWonder aptitude install xserver-xorg-video-vesa |
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| 18:51.32 | QWonder | i tried removing that and now it just gives me all the garbage again |
| 18:51.41 | QWonder | i have UseFBDev set to true and no driver defined |
| 18:51.59 | QWonder | same thing with all the garbage and occasional cursor on top of it |
| 18:53.01 | XLV | dont know then... for me vesa worked as i said, also sis driver also worked.. are you sure the hardware is functioning properly? |
| 18:54.30 | QWonder | well, i have box popping up now telling me it's running as privileged user... i could click okay |
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| 18:54.52 | QWonder | yes, i'm sure, i had OS 9 installed and it worked fine, i've also had x server started in NetBSD |
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| 18:55.26 | QWonder | i wish i still had my configureation from netbsd |
| 18:55.36 | QWonder | it took me forever to get it working there too |
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| 18:55.56 | dondelelcaro | QWonder: you're using lenny, right? |
| 18:56.07 | QWonder | yeah |
| 18:56.25 | dondelelcaro | QWonder: and you tried first with the default configuration, right? |
| 18:57.04 | QWonder | yes |
| 18:57.06 | QWonder | oh wait |
| 18:57.10 | QWonder | maybe it's just really really slow |
| 18:57.14 | QWonder | i have a background now |
| 18:57.36 | dondelelcaro | if you see anything at all on the display, it's working |
| 18:57.37 | QWonder | wow, well this isn't going to be usable |
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| 19:02.14 | jelly | QWonder: how much ram does the box have? |
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| 19:02.42 | jelly | QWonder: could be you're making it run Gnome and it's swapping to death |
| 19:03.17 | QWonder | maybe |
| 19:03.22 | QWonder | i think it only has 256 |
| 19:03.33 | jelly | that ought to be acceptable. |
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| 19:03.40 | QWonder | the hard-drive is loud, and i don't hear it running so |
| 19:03.45 | QWonder | i'm not sure why it's so slow |
| 19:04.03 | QWonder | i still haven't been past the time/date configuration window |
| 19:04.07 | jelly | AFAIK Macs do not have a Turbo button. |
| 19:04.19 | QWonder | just selecting options in the drop down boxes takes 1-2 minutes |
| 19:04.45 | QWonder | it's 700mhz |
| 19:04.52 | QWonder | i didn't think it would be /this/ slow |
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| 19:05.51 | QWonder | oh |
| 19:06.11 | QWonder | top says avahi-daemon is around 90% cpu usage |
| 19:07.21 | jelly | kill it! kill it! |
| 19:07.37 | QWonder | lol |
| 19:07.38 | QWonder | i did |
| 19:07.41 | linlin | lenny installed on my ppc imac just fine |
| 19:07.48 | linlin | well updated from the version before |
| 19:07.55 | QWonder | now everything is frozen |
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| 19:08.04 | jelly | oops |
| 19:08.06 | jelly | hides |
| 19:08.13 | linlin | are you trying to install? or is it installed and your trying to use it |
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| 19:08.54 | QWonder | it's installed |
| 19:08.56 | QWonder | i'm trying to use it |
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| 19:09.34 | QWonder | i guess i just need to go find avahi-daemon in the rc. whatever folders and chmod -x it? |
| 19:09.46 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | hello roomies |
| 19:09.47 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | :) |
| 19:09.47 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | xD |
| 19:09.53 | cantoma | hey i am trying to mount a ntfs filesystem partition for the normal user to use, and i don't know what I should specify in the uid=value, gid=value and umask=value. I just read man mount and it doesn't gives me information about it! What should i do ?! |
| 19:09.57 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | aaah abrotman is there xD |
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| 19:10.22 | Spi1 | can anybody here help me with a Knoppix problem there just doesn't seem to be anyone active on their channel? |
| 19:10.37 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | !knoppix |
| 19:10.37 | dpkg | Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek Knoppix help in freenode's #knoppix. Knoppix is a live CD distro which is <based on Debian>, useful as a rescue CD, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it isn't Debian. http://www.knoppix.com/ unofficial: http://Debian-knoppix.alioth.Debian.org/ <Debian-live> is the Debian equiv for publishing live systems. |
| 19:11.06 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | hope that answers |
| 19:11.25 | XLV | cantoma, i'd say use ntfs-3g |
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| 19:11.54 | XLV | !ntfs-3g |
| 19:11.54 | dpkg | rumour has it, ntfs-3g is a user-space NTFS driver with write support and good performance. It is available in Lenny, or through backports.org for Etch (ask me about <backports.org> for instructions and see http://packages.debian.org/etch-backports/ntfs-3g). Usage examples: http://www.ntfs-3g.org/#usage Ask me about <user accessible ntfs>. |
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| 19:13.08 | cantoma | XLV, will this overrride what i have in fstab? |
| 19:13.13 | Spi1 | understood, and I know this yet whatever i do I just can't seem to be able to find any help using their documentation (which seems outdated) or their help channel |
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| 19:13.43 | cantoma | Spi1, we don't care .. just ask your question |
| 19:13.55 | XLV | cantoma, yeah, you cant mount the same partition using kernel ntfs module and ntfs-3g |
| 19:13.57 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | then why using a distro which has so lesser community support? |
| 19:14.14 | XLV | cantoma, you'd have to edit fstab to make the partition mount using ntfs-3g |
| 19:14.43 | Spi1 | ok, if anybody here can help: when I try to make a persistent disk image with Adriane's menu it tells me it can't find knoppix.size in the /tmp folder. I'm using a usb key, and i've had no luck looking for a solution on the internet |
| 19:14.46 | cantoma | XLV, so i will substitute in fstab ntfs by ntfs-3g |
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| 19:15.41 | XLV | cantoma, http://www.ntfs-3g.org/#usage in fstab /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows ntfs-3g defaults 0 0 |
| 19:16.02 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | well |
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| 19:16.15 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | ntfs-config is handy to mound ntfs partitions automatically |
| 19:16.21 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | *mount |
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| 19:16.37 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | http://flomertens.free.fr/ntfs-config/ |
| 19:16.43 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | i have tried this one |
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| 19:17.56 | funky | hello |
| 19:18.04 | funky | i think this is not a good moment to upgrade my sid |
| 19:18.10 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | !hello |
| 19:18.10 | dpkg | Hi, sh4d3sl4y3r_! |
| 19:18.13 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | lol |
| 19:18.16 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | well |
| 19:18.19 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | i upgraded today |
| 19:18.22 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | things are fine |
| 19:18.39 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | using OpenOffice 3.0.1 :) |
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| 19:19.11 | QWonder | alright, now who wants to help me figure out why this is so slow? |
| 19:19.56 | QWonder | less than 1% cpu usage, 100MB ram free |
| 19:20.06 | QWonder | and it's just sitting here |
| 19:20.08 | QWonder | taking forever |
| 19:20.11 | QWonder | not doing anything |
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| 19:21.04 | asdfqwer | if i want to change the --geometry for foo every time i execute foo as bar, where do i change this? |
| 19:21.12 | asdfqwer | for gnome-terminal in particular |
| 19:21.13 | arezey | !ops spiker on-join porno spam messages |
| 19:21.13 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: arezey complains about: spiker on-join porno spam messages |
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| 19:21.28 | asdfqwer | buncha punks |
| 19:21.30 | abrotman | sh4d3sl4y3r_: eh? |
| 19:21.45 | stew | arezey: thanks :) |
| 19:21.51 | arezey | yw |
| 19:22.02 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | << gives abrotman an "unstablish" hug |
| 19:22.03 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | xD |
| 19:22.30 | bolt | is there a good rss reader that can display headlines on the desktop, like conky does for system statistics? |
| 19:23.12 | valdyn | bolt: theres a few tools to display input like sd |
| 19:23.15 | valdyn | bolt: theres a few tools to display input like osd |
| 19:24.16 | cantoma | From the normal used doing "mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows" I get a "mount: only root can do that". Anyone knows how to solve this? |
| 19:24.21 | valdyn | bolt: so just pipe your rss text thru aosd-cat or xosd |
| 19:24.29 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | brb.. need a restart |
| 19:24.49 | nkuttler | cantoma: put it in your fstab, sudo,... |
| 19:24.50 | valdyn | bolt: or gnome-osd, or whatever |
| 19:25.03 | cantoma | nkuttler: its there |
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| 19:25.16 | nkuttler | cantoma: what is where? |
| 19:25.22 | bolt | valdyn: cool, thanks |
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| 19:25.34 | e-type | evening all |
| 19:25.44 | cantoma | nkuttler: /dev/sda1/media/sda1/ntfs-3gdefaults 00 |
| 19:26.05 | cantoma | nkuttler: actually different directory |
| 19:26.12 | zepard | I need to start fluxbox from cmdline any link about it, it launches but from xinitrc only! |
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| 19:26.48 | jamesstanley | Anyone know if/why the fglrx driver can't handle multiple x sessions? |
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| 19:27.17 | nkuttler | cantoma: man fstab, see user, and use the correct mount command |
| 19:27.20 | cantoma | nkuttler: I just change fstab to the correct directory "/mnt/windows" but still same result |
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| 19:28.52 | cantoma | nkuttler: did you see any user mention in the man of fstab? |
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| 19:29.15 | nkuttler | cantoma: yes. man 5 fstab /user |
| 19:29.28 | hark | cantoma: looks ok |
| 19:29.30 | e-type | zepard: what's the problem exactly? what's your reason not to start it from xinitrc? |
| 19:29.31 | nkuttler | cantoma: add user to the options, mount with mount /mnt/point |
| 19:29.47 | zepard | would like to debug |
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| 19:30.10 | humbolt | anybody using the new xen dom0 kernel? |
| 19:30.15 | zepard | e-type: would like to debug |
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| 19:30.29 | cantoma | nkuttler: i have defaults there should i still add user or it doesn't make sense? |
| 19:30.43 | nkuttler | cantoma: yes |
| 19:31.30 | zepard | e-type: maybe an xauthority issue? |
| 19:32.18 | e-type | aren't it's messages going to /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? |
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| 19:32.47 | valdyn | zepard: from a command line that is not in X? |
| 19:33.00 | valdyn | zepard: DISPLAY=:0 fluxbox |
| 19:33.00 | zepard | valdyn: yes |
| 19:33.09 | runa | heyas. I have a server with some iowait, I use iostat and I see there're 5000 wsec/s (!!) and I've no idea what process is writting all that data. any hints? |
| 19:33.11 | valdyn | zepard: or replace :0 with whatever your $DISPLAY is |
| 19:33.39 | zepard | valdyn: tried -display :0 |
| 19:33.50 | Setebos | runa cat /proc/interrupts ? |
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| 19:33.59 | cantoma | nkuttler: Error opening '/dev/sda1': Permission denied this is not going well today |
| 19:34.22 | nkuttler | cantoma: paste command, complete error and fstab |
| 19:34.34 | QWonder | well, some other guy figured it out, and it worked for me. if anyone is interested I just set NoAccel to false: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=34821&sid=17d6aa7bc09b31125dc5acaf74a8a13c |
| 19:34.38 | Setebos | of course man would avoid normal user to do dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/sda1 cantoma |
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| 19:35.35 | e-type | zepard: the manpage doesn't seem to say that '$ DISPLAY=:0 fluxbox' does the same as '$ fluxbox -display :0' |
| 19:35.41 | runa | Setebos: libata has a lot of interruptions (?) |
| 19:35.42 | QWonder | of course now i get 7 gnome applet errors and an error about nautilus |
| 19:35.54 | cantoma | nkuttler: http://pastebin.com/ddabfe44 |
| 19:36.04 | XLV | cantoma, that was just a rough example... your hdd and partition may have different sd<x> and number afterwardfs |
| 19:36.14 | zepard | e-type: oops |
| 19:36.26 | XLV | cantoma, also have you installed ntfs-3g? |
| 19:36.27 | valdyn | zepard: so? not working? whats the error? |
| 19:36.31 | Setebos | libata ?? hum what is "lot of interruptions" ? runa |
| 19:36.38 | zepard | valdyn: nop |
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| 19:36.54 | cantoma | XLV, i did apt of it |
| 19:36.59 | cantoma | apt-get |
| 19:37.04 | valdyn | zepard: dont make me ask, as you want help tell me the precise situation |
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| 19:37.26 | nkuttler | cantoma: ls -ld /mnt/windows ? |
| 19:37.26 | zepard | valdyn: of course |
| 19:37.43 | cantoma | nkuttler: drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 48 2009-02-23 19:22 /mnt/windows |
| 19:37.46 | Ejdesgaard | hi, what is the OSS java replacement called, that is installed in debian? |
| 19:37.51 | zepard | valdyn: I got an error: couldn't open display |
| 19:37.55 | \amethyst | if it's on a separate line, it will try to search for !cursor! when vim starts up |
| 19:37.58 | \amethyst | doh |
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| 19:38.04 | nkuttler | cantoma: try to give your user/group +rwx |
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| 19:38.20 | valdyn | zepard: how is X started, as which user, as which user are you trying to start fluxbox |
| 19:38.54 | zepard | myself should it have special settings |
| 19:38.56 | zepard | ? |
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| 19:39.06 | zepard | valdyn: donno if xauth is ok |
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| 19:39.12 | valdyn | zepard: that is not what i asked |
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| 19:39.27 | cantoma | nkuttler: this is a clean debian installation the user permissions is in its defaults of the instalation |
| 19:39.35 | zepard | valdyn: hum, don't understand thenn |
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| 19:39.42 | Ejdesgaard | is it gcj?? |
| 19:39.44 | zepard | valdyn: noot root user |
| 19:39.55 | valdyn | zepard: whats hard to understand about "how did you start X" ? |
| 19:40.01 | inimino | Ejdesgaard: OpenJDK, and it's a Java implementation, not a Java replacement |
| 19:40.03 | \amethyst | cantoma: did you read the link it gave you? |
| 19:40.06 | nkuttler | cantoma: i don't see how that's related to your problem. |
| 19:40.21 | valdyn | zepard: "I started X with the command startx as user foo" |
| 19:40.22 | zepard | valdyn: :) fluxbox DISPLAY=:0 |
| 19:40.29 | valdyn | zepard: that is fluxbox, not X |
| 19:40.34 | zepard | ah |
| 19:40.37 | zepard | ok |
| 19:40.54 | zepard | usually I start with startx, with .xinitrc |
| 19:41.10 | zepard | valdyn:did I answer |
| 19:41.14 | valdyn | zepard: no |
| 19:41.19 | zepard | ho |
| 19:41.24 | QWonder | crap, gnome applets are all broken so i don't have a shutdown menu, when i type reboot or shutdown into a terminal it says they can't be found, and nautilus doesn't work |
| 19:41.29 | Setebos | we might want to have a look at ~valdyn/.xsession file |
| 19:41.31 | QWonder | how do i shut this computer off? |
| 19:41.34 | valdyn | zepard: you told me how you "usually" start X, you didnt tell me how exactly you started this X you want fluxbox to run on |
| 19:41.58 | valdyn | zepard: and btw, the command i gave you was: DISPLAY=:=0 fluxbox, NOT fluxbox DISPLAY:=0 |
| 19:42.01 | e-type | QWonder: '$ shutdown -r now' for a reboot |
| 19:42.03 | Setebos | QWonder, you see that cable plug into your wall ? |
| 19:42.08 | e-type | :-) |
| 19:42.10 | zepard | i dind't startx yet, |
| 19:42.14 | valdyn | zepard: and btw, the command i gave you was: DISPLAY=:0 fluxbox, NOT fluxbox DISPLAY=:0 |
| 19:42.22 | zepard | valdyn: ok |
| 19:42.26 | valdyn | zepard: if you didnt start x then you cant start fluxbox |
| 19:42.36 | QWonder | in the terminal, when i type shutdown it says "command not found" |
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| 19:42.42 | zepard | valdyn: I try it liek that |
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| 19:42.51 | QWonder | my path must be messed up or something |
| 19:42.53 | Setebos | QWonder, try to su first |
| 19:42.53 | valdyn | zepard: thats not gonna do any good if X is not started |
| 19:43.00 | cantoma | nkuttler: by the way i am looking into several forums and i didn't find yet how to change the a user/group permission to +rwx. Any hand? |
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| 19:43.15 | QWonder | oh, that did it |
| 19:43.15 | zepard | valdyn: ? |
| 19:43.15 | QWonder | thanks |
| 19:43.20 | e-type | QWonder: add /sbin to your path ;-) |
| 19:43.22 | nkuttler | cantoma: man chmod, man chown, man chgrp |
| 19:43.35 | cantoma | nkuttler: did i need them all? |
| 19:43.37 | valdyn | zepard: starting fluxbox requires X to be started first |
| 19:43.49 | zepard | valdyn: yes I got that |
| 19:44.04 | zepard | valdyn: so I should startx before |
| 19:44.08 | Setebos | QWonder, you might want to visudo to add the ability to some users to use /sbin/shutdown |
| 19:44.18 | zepard | valdyn: how do you do that |
| 19:44.19 | zepard | ? |
| 19:44.27 | valdyn | zepard: do what? |
| 19:44.31 | cantoma | nkuttler: sorry what is group? |
| 19:44.31 | zepard | startx |
| 19:44.38 | valdyn | zepard: run the command "startx" |
| 19:44.39 | IRCMonkey | how does one install this: http://packages.debian.org/experimental/kdebase-workspace |
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| 19:44.56 | zepard | valdyn: so I'll remove my xinitrc before |
| 19:45.06 | valdyn | zepard: why would you do that? |
| 19:45.15 | valdyn | zepard: whats the purpose of this sillyness? |
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| 19:46.00 | IRCMonkey | it's said [all] not [i386] |
| 19:46.00 | Setebos | zepard, don't touch xinitrc file, user ~/.xsession |
| 19:46.00 | valdyn | zepard: whats your real goal? |
| 19:46.00 | nkuttler | !tell cantoma about fundamentals |
| 19:46.00 | zepard | valdyn: I'd like to debug a fluxbox, how do you dod that |
| 19:46.01 | zepard | valdyn: or any other window manager |
| 19:46.01 | nkuttler | !tell cantoma about grounding |
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| 19:46.03 | valdyn | zepard: you want to WHAT? |
| 19:46.07 | zepard | valdyn: I think I need a doc about this |
| 19:46.23 | valdyn | zepard: seriously you dont sound like you can even program anything in C, let alone debug a binary |
| 19:46.33 | zepard | valdyn: ok |
| 19:46.37 | zepard | valdyn: and |
| 19:46.40 | parsifal_ | Does anyone know of a visual diff program that allows you to copy differences from left/right? |
| 19:47.01 | cantoma | nkuttleris there any docs .. for how newbie i may be regarding the question? |
| 19:47.04 | zepard | valdyn: what's the problem to search |
| 19:47.15 | stew | parsifal_: perhaps ediff, but you better like emacs if you were to consider it |
| 19:47.16 | valdyn | zepard: whats your native language? |
| 19:47.32 | zepard | valdyn: ? |
| 19:47.46 | zepard | valdyn: what kind of language? programming |
| 19:47.48 | zepard | ? |
| 19:47.53 | zepard | :) |
| 19:47.53 | valdyn | zepard: speaking |
| 19:47.58 | zepard | java |
| 19:48.07 | zepard | valdyn: why this question |
| 19:48.10 | parsifal_ | stew: haha, which I don't |
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| 19:48.24 | valdyn | zepard: because i cant parse your english in a way that makes a whole lot of sense |
| 19:48.32 | nkuttler | cantoma: well, i tell you to man chmod and you ask me what a group is... you definitely should read some unix introduction |
| 19:48.37 | cantoma | nkuttler: the dpkg send me a link that doesn't exist |
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| 19:48.49 | zepard | valdyn: it isn't so bad |
| 19:48.56 | nkuttler | cantoma: start with file permissions |
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| 19:49.03 | zepard | valdyn: my french is better though |
| 19:49.09 | valdyn | zepard: go to a channel with your native lanuage |
| 19:49.12 | cantoma | nkuttler: i just want to mount a disk :( |
| 19:49.25 | valdyn | !debian-fr |
| 19:49.25 | dpkg | hmm... debian-fr is an association giving you some documentation: http://www.debian-fr.org/ |
| 19:49.29 | valdyn | oo |
| 19:49.33 | valdyn | !french |
| 19:49.33 | dpkg | Vous pouvez obtenir de l'aide sur Debian sur le canal #debian-fr - For help in french, please join #debian-fr |
| 19:49.52 | cantoma | nkuttler: without having to read a bible |
| 19:50.05 | valdyn | zepard: but your goal is crazy too, wanting to "debug fluxbox" |
| 19:50.14 | nkuttler | cantoma: come again when you read man chmod |
| 19:50.14 | zepard | valdyn: thx for help, but you didn't answer to my first request, which was hwo to start fluxbox with the display option, whithout xinitrc |
| 19:50.31 | valdyn | zepard: i did |
| 19:50.37 | zepard | nop |
| 19:50.48 | valdyn | zepard: i did more than once actually |
| 19:50.48 | zepard | you tell me to use xinitrc |
| 19:50.51 | nkuttler | cantoma: actually, try http://www.dartmouth.edu/~rc/help/faq/permissions.html |
| 19:50.57 | cantoma | nkuttler: there is some forums telling to edit /etc/group file to give permissions does that is mention in man chmod? |
| 19:50.59 | zepard | with startx |
| 19:51.05 | Setebos | zepard, and valdyn will soon be friends for life ... |
| 19:51.13 | zepard | that is what I am doing |
| 19:51.32 | zepard | valdyn: startx, and this not I looking for |
| 19:51.51 | parsifal_ | xxdiff looks like it'll work but it'd be nice to have a gtk program |
| 19:51.54 | valdyn | zepard: 20:42 < valdyn> zepard: and btw, the command i gave you was: DISPLAY=:0 fluxbox, NOT fluxbox DISPLAY=:0 |
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| 19:52.05 | e-type | zepard: '$ DISPLAY=:0 fluxbox' should do that, as valdyn indicated. what you can also try, but this is exactly the same, is starting a terminal from xinitrc and start fluxbox from there. |
| 19:52.17 | valdyn | zepard: but you are mixing up things |
| 19:52.29 | humbolt | any xen users here? |
| 19:52.30 | Setebos | zepard, echo exec fluxbox > ~/.xession |
| 19:52.34 | valdyn | zepard: X is not fluxbox, fluxbox is not X, fluxbox wont find a display if X isnt even started |
| 19:52.35 | humbolt | lenny xen users? |
| 19:52.44 | e-type | humbolt: etch |
| 19:52.47 | Pred2k5 | hi, can somebody recommend a console bittorrent client to me? |
| 19:52.56 | humbolt | e-type: etch myself. |
| 19:53.01 | valdyn | Pred2k5: rtorrent, the one and only |
| 19:53.02 | Setebos | humbolt, /j ##xen |
| 19:53.05 | e-type | Pred2k5: rtorrent |
| 19:53.06 | zepard | valdyn: ok I got that |
| 19:53.15 | humbolt | but has anybody had a lenny dom0 running for a while? |
| 19:53.21 | humbolt | Setebos: no |
| 19:53.32 | valdyn | zepard: X starts without reading xinitrd if you just run the command Xorg or X |
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| 19:53.34 | Pred2k5 | ok, thx thats what I wanted to hear :) |
| 19:53.38 | humbolt | Setebos: this is about xen in debian |
| 19:53.46 | valdyn | zepard: *xinitrc* even |
| 19:53.56 | zepard | valdyn: hum |
| 19:54.28 | valdyn | zepard: that would give you plain X with nothing useful, but thats a sufficient platform to get fluxbox up |
| 19:54.41 | zepard | valdyn: exelent |
| 19:54.52 | zepard | valdyn: that is a good explanation |
| 19:55.00 | zepard | valdyn: thx |
| 19:55.08 | humbolt | the 2.6.26 xen kernel in lenny is for dom0 also, right? |
| 19:55.15 | zepard | valdyn: after that I can run any window manager |
| 19:55.21 | zepard | valdyn: yes? |
| 19:55.25 | valdyn | zepard: yes |
| 19:56.00 | valdyn | zepard: X, then ctrl-alt-f1 to switch to a console, then run any X client like: "DISPLAY=:= <client>" |
| 19:56.06 | valdyn | zepard: fluxbox is an X client |
| 19:56.21 | valdyn | zepard: xterm is an X client, any window manager is an X client, firefox is one too |
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| 19:56.35 | Setebos | zepard, try ratpoison instead of fluxbox, this is a debuged version of fluxbox |
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| 19:56.52 | zepard | valdyn: hoh |
| 19:56.54 | valdyn | Setebos: why are you suggesting a different wm? |
| 19:57.05 | zepard | valdyn: it's tiling wm |
| 19:57.06 | stew | no, ratpoison is NOT a debugged version of fluxbox. its something completely different |
| 19:57.14 | zepard | valdyn: not the same |
| 19:57.20 | valdyn | zepard: im well aware of that |
| 19:57.29 | \amethyst | { for each file; do download it; echo filename; done; } | while read filename; do convert filename; done |
| 19:57.35 | \amethyst | eep, wrong channel again |
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| 19:57.52 | stew | \amethyst: it says "bash: download: No such command" |
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| 19:58.08 | zepard | valdyn: I guess that, but how can you say that it is debugged version, any code sharing between them? |
| 19:58.20 | valdyn | zepard: i did not say that, its bullshit |
| 19:58.20 | \amethyst | stew: not "syntax error near unexpected token `file'"? weird :) |
| 19:58.51 | Setebos | zepard, it was a joke, ratpoison has nothing to do with fluxbox |
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| 19:58.59 | e-type | humbolt: is that different from etch? |
| 19:59.03 | lewis2 | how can I determine why a php extension is not loading? |
| 19:59.31 | zepard | valdyn: okok,maybe I am not english native but this kind of h=jokes are hard to understand |
| 19:59.33 | zepard | :/ |
| 19:59.33 | Setebos | zepard, ratpoison n'a aucun rapport avec fluxbox, juste une blague |
| 19:59.55 | zepard | Setebos: valdyn: I got it thx |
| 20:00.17 | zepard | valdyn: Setebos e-type: thx for help, |
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| 20:00.34 | e-type | lewis2: is it in the include path? are the permissions correct? |
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| 20:01.22 | vyrgozunqk | :] |
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| 20:01.38 | humbolt | e-type: well, newer kernel. forward ported by somebody other than xensource itself AFAIK. 2.6.18 was the last kernel which has been patched by the xen devs themselves. |
| 20:01.46 | lewis2 | I put zend_extension="/path/foo.bar" in php.ini |
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| 20:02.03 | lewis2 | just needs read permissions, or execute too? |
| 20:02.55 | e-type | humbolt: what I meant is that in etch the xen kernel serves as dom0 and domU kernel, so that would just be as expected in lenny, no? |
| 20:03.20 | zepard | valdyn: ok I'll try ratpoisen one day , but is there big difference between ratpoisn and awesome? |
| 20:03.26 | e-type | lewis2: yes, for the user running the server process |
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| 20:04.27 | Setebos | zepard, ratpoison is only useful to some sort of guys that essentially have admin system work to do |
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| 20:05.11 | zepard | Setebos: like awesome? |
| 20:05.21 | lewis2 | tried that - no luck. could it be that I have a 32-bit .so and it doesn't run on my 64-bit only system? |
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| 20:05.48 | devurandom | Hi! |
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| 20:06.13 | devurandom | When running apt-get-update on our server, it replies with: Failed to fetch http://security.debian.org/dists/sarge/updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found [IP: 212.211.132.250 80] |
| 20:06.16 | lewis2 | wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32 |
| 20:06.19 | lewis2 | oooh |
| 20:06.25 | lewis2 | wrong ELF :D - what is that? |
| 20:06.29 | Setebos | ratpoison works excatly like gnu screen, with the same shortcuts ... zepard , |
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| 20:06.32 | devurandom | Apparently there is no sarge at all on those servers. Is support for that dropped now? |
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| 20:06.44 | beardy | !sarge |
| 20:06.44 | dpkg | Ten-HUT! Fall in! Sarge is the code name for Debian version 3.1, released on June 6th, 2005. Sarge security support ended on 2008-03-31. Sarge users should upgrade to Etch, ask me about <sarge->etch>. Now removed from the mirrors; ask me about <archive>. Get old Sarge ISO's here: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/3.1_r8/ |
| 20:07.01 | zepard | valdyn: ah ok |
| 20:07.02 | devurandom | Thanks! |
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| 20:07.20 | zepard | valdyn: ok it works fine , now I going to play with gdb :P |
| 20:08.13 | UndertakerX2 | doesnt aptitude normaly configure your httpd.conf for you when installed using aptitude? :s |
| 20:08.25 | e-type | lewis2: that might indeed be your 32 vs 64 bit problem :-) |
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| 20:09.15 | zepard | Setebos: ok. |
| 20:09.50 | lewis2 | it was - thanks |
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| 20:11.37 | themill | UndertakerX2: httpd.conf is unused in debian. So the answer is both "yes and no". |
| 20:11.42 | valdyn | UndertakerX2: httpd.conf is empty by default |
| 20:11.49 | dustybin | there seems to be big issues with bitlbee + MSN on debian lenny, i keep on getting disconnects |
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| 20:11.55 | valdyn | UndertakerX2: feel free to put your own stuff there, but debian stuff is elsewhere |
| 20:12.17 | UndertakerX2 | oh where is it at then when using apache2? :S |
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| 20:12.46 | valdyn | UndertakerX2: /etc/apache2/sites-enabled /etc/apache2/conf.d /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/ |
| 20:12.58 | themill | UndertakerX2: /usr/share/doc/apache2/README.Debian.gz ; /msg dpkg apache it works |
| 20:13.23 | UndertakerX2 | ok thanks for all the help guys thats all i needed |
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| 20:14.26 | KungFuJesus | hello, does any know anything about SaS? |
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| 20:14.49 | keith4 | !anyone |
| 20:14.49 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls>, or <search> |
| 20:15.17 | KungFuJesus | well fine. I want to use a cheapo software SaS controller by high point. It has a mini-sas out |
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| 20:15.51 | keith4 | what chipset is it? |
| 20:15.51 | KungFuJesus | will this card: http://www.cs-electronics.com/887p-2Duallrgnew.jpg support target forwarding? |
| 20:15.55 | KungFuJesus | marvell based |
| 20:16.03 | KungFuJesus | it's a piece of garbage but it's dirt cheap |
| 20:16.23 | keith4 | what is it that you think that card will do for you? |
| 20:16.33 | KungFuJesus | the card itself can be found here: http://www.cs-electronics.com/mini-sas_adapters.htm |
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| 20:17.16 | keith4 | KungFuJesus: you have a motherboard with SAS onboard? |
| 20:17.17 | KungFuJesus | keith4: SaS expansion. I want to expand my SaS ports to as many as possible |
| 20:17.23 | KungFuJesus | and convert it to SATA on the Fan out |
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| 20:17.26 | Setebos | valdyn, for information on freenode debian-fr is a sort of private chan, hostile to support, last time you should best recommand debianfr instead |
| 20:17.39 | KungFuJesus | keith4: no, it's a SaS card that I'm thinking about, a cheapo highpoint based on a marvel chipset |
| 20:17.49 | keith4 | KungFuJesus: that is not an SAS card |
| 20:17.54 | KungFuJesus | I know it's not |
| 20:18.11 | KungFuJesus | I didn't show you that card. The card is not important, all SaS supports multiplication by the SaS protocol |
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| 20:18.25 | KungFuJesus | I'm asking will that thing forward the target initiator to an identical device |
| 20:18.32 | humbolt | e-type: no, one can not expect that, as for a long time no new xen dom0 kernel was available in lenny. And F10 for example does not support xen dom0 at all. |
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| 20:18.51 | keith4 | KungFuJesus: ask the manufacturer |
| 20:18.52 | KungFuJesus | I want to put several in tandem, like the way this device operates: http://www.scsi4me.com/tmc-sm-081.html |
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| 20:19.12 | KungFuJesus | of course with the above device it requires adapting mini-SaS to infiniband |
| 20:19.43 | KungFuJesus | and then adapting the internal sf8484 to 4 7 pin SATA connectors |
| 20:19.44 | keith4 | what does any of this have to do with debian? |
| 20:19.55 | KungFuJesus | the card is supported in debian, for one |
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| 20:19.59 | dos000 | how do you get netcat to restart automatically after a disconnect ? there seems to be a -L but no word of that in man |
| 20:20.10 | bolt | is there a simple console tool that will give me the 10 last rss titles of an rss 2.0 feed so i can pipe them through to something? |
| 20:20.17 | KungFuJesus | but I'm desperately looking for an appropriate IRC channel with server admins/hardware gurus |
| 20:20.27 | KungFuJesus | to no avail have a found one that somebody clearly can tell me if it will work |
| 20:20.28 | bolt | i tried rsstail but i can't seem to get it to stop after fetching the headlines once. it keeps waiting for new ones |
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| 20:20.56 | humbolt | e-type: also, as I have not read anything new about xen in lenny lately or xen's progress of making their way into the mainline kernel, it could be just as likely, that debian decided to drop the damn thing alltogether or continue with the "use 2.6.18 for dom0" approach. |
| 20:21.08 | KungFuJesus | surely I'm not the only one that wanted to overload a mini-sas port to 128 SATA drives |
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| 20:21.34 | helo | how do i install cpan packages in debian? |
| 20:21.39 | helo | err modules |
| 20:21.59 | KungFuJesus | keith4: if you can find me a better IRC channel on freenode or somewhere else I'd be very grateful |
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| 20:22.25 | keith4 | KungFuJesus: #hardware? #linux? |
| 20:22.34 | KungFuJesus | I tried #hardware, nobody is in there |
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| 20:22.44 | KungFuJesus | #linux nobody is talking about anything |
| 20:22.47 | rmayorga | bolt: that is the _normal_ behaviour, ctrl+c :) |
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| 20:23.04 | KungFuJesus | I tried #linux, though |
| 20:23.18 | KungFuJesus | oh wait, #hardware has people suddenly |
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| 20:23.48 | bolt | rmayorga: but i want to do it in a script. don't want to be there to press ctrl+c all the time |
| 20:23.51 | stew | KungFuJesus: note that the channels you want are named ##hardware and ##linux not #hardware and #linux |
| 20:23.54 | keith4 | humbolt: http://packages.debian.org/lenny/xen-linux-system-2.6.26-1-xen-686 |
| 20:23.57 | dos000 | how can i make a command restart automatically .. and still be able to ctrl c when i need the command to stop ? |
| 20:24.08 | bolt | rmayorga: is there something like rsstail which is just rss without the tail? :) |
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| 20:24.46 | sputnick | hi guys |
| 20:24.55 | nkuttler | dos000: example? |
| 20:25.11 | Setebos | dos000, a shell script ? |
| 20:25.22 | dos000 | nkuttler: yes |
| 20:25.23 | bolt | dos000: while true; do <foo>; done |
| 20:25.30 | sputnick | My lenny do strange things ( I have no NFS on my system ! ) : " |
| 20:25.32 | sputnick | $ LANG=C ls $HOME/kdebase/apps/kappfinder/apps/Games/Emulators/.svn/dir-prop-base |
| 20:25.33 | sputnick | ls: cannot access /home/sputnick/kdebase/apps/kappfinder/apps/Games/Emulators/.svn/dir-prop-base: Stale NFS file handle |
| 20:25.34 | dos000 | bolt: it wont obey ctrl-c |
| 20:25.35 | humbolt | keith4: I know that package, but as I don't know how this patched kernel came about, I can not tell anything about it's quality. |
| 20:25.35 | sputnick | " |
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| 20:26.01 | nkuttler | dos000: double ctrl-c should do. anyway, what are you running |
| 20:26.02 | rmayorga | bolt: newsbeuter is a nice choice (ncurses) |
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| 20:26.14 | keith4 | humbolt: iirc, the... suse? guys manually ported the xen patches to 2.6.26... and debian somehow used tht? |
| 20:26.17 | keith4 | it's confusing |
| 20:26.31 | dos000 | nkuttler: wont do . the command is netcat .. |
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| 20:26.49 | dos000 | nkuttler: i have to debug a client .. and netcat keeps exiting |
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| 20:27.30 | bolt | dos000: try while true; do <foo> && sleep 0.01; done |
| 20:27.35 | e-type | humbolt: yeah, as I read nothing new I expected nothing new |
| 20:27.44 | bolt | dos000: then hold down ctrl+c to stop it. you should be able to kill the sleep part of it |
| 20:28.42 | dos000 | bolt: wont dye ! |
| 20:28.58 | bolt | dos000: oh, sorry. switch them around |
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| 20:29.06 | bolt | dos000: sleep 0.01 && <foo> |
| 20:29.10 | Setebos | dos000, it will die, but you can had trap 2 exit; |
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| 20:29.34 | dos000 | Setebos: ?? can you explain ? |
| 20:30.17 | Setebos | you might want to run your while :; do ; done in a subshell |
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| 20:30.24 | bolt | dos000: while true; do sleep 0.01 && echo foo; done |
| 20:30.30 | bolt | dos000: that can be killed with ctrl+c for me |
| 20:30.36 | nkuttler | dos000: yeah, kill the parent |
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| 20:32.32 | dos000 | bolt: wont work with netcat -l -p 4040. I am on etch |
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| 20:34.05 | sputnick | and this is a ls -l output : "-????????? ? ? ? ? ? whfwdata8.htm" |
| 20:34.09 | sputnick | WTF !? |
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| 20:34.32 | sputnick | need a fsck ? |
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| 20:35.03 | bolt | works for me... gotta hold ctrl+c down though |
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| 20:35.18 | Setebos | sputnick, do you clearcase or nfs ? |
| 20:35.29 | sputnick | I don't have any NFS |
| 20:35.34 | Setebos | sputnick, samba ? |
| 20:35.38 | sputnick | no |
| 20:35.47 | Setebos | then it stinks a lot |
| 20:35.51 | sputnick | sure |
| 20:35.52 | dos000 | bolt: maybe its a terminal thing. i am coming in via ssh using cygwin |
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| 20:36.49 | sputnick | Setebos: I have no NFS RAID SAN NAS or exotic FS. only ext3 FS on real hard disks |
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| 20:36.59 | Setebos | sputnick, yeak, try a umount of the volume and fsck sputnick |
| 20:37.36 | Setebos | sputnick, see also what smartctl thinks about your disk |
| 20:37.37 | sputnick | + my keyboard does odd things randomly ! |
| 20:38.45 | Setebos | sputnick, well, that was not a good idea to watercool your motherboard in your bath |
| 20:39.11 | KungFuJesus | keith4: thanks man |
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| 20:39.44 | sputnick | Setebos: my lappy stay most of the time on my desktop |
| 20:39.48 | sputnick | :/ |
| 20:40.00 | sputnick | and I take care of him |
| 20:40.13 | sputnick | never drink to close |
| 20:40.21 | sputnick | s/to/too |
| 20:41.05 | Setebos | well, beer might have explained your weird keyboard ... |
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| 20:41.41 | sputnick | Setebos: no, a USB keyboard does the same |
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| 20:42.26 | sputnick | I have upgraded X libs to sid without any changes |
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| 20:42.55 | Setebos | yeak USB keyboard doesn't like beer, neither PS/2 one, may be IBM keyboard were beer proof |
| 20:43.29 | sputnick | I only put good beer in my mouth |
| 20:43.52 | sputnick | maybe I wake up in the night and put bad beer in my computer |
| 20:44.07 | sputnick | but I don't think so... |
| 20:44.17 | Setebos | sputnick, but, again, smartctl would be a good idea to see what smart informations could be collected if your disk support smart |
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| 20:44.31 | sputnick | yeah, I'm scanning right now |
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| 20:45.14 | sputnick | "Please wait 111 minutes for test to complete." |
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| 20:46.13 | sputnick | need to raise pressure |
| 20:46.38 | ABCD | I'm running sid in a VirtualBox virtual machine, and I cannot get X11 to work (using the vesa driver) - I get an error: |
| 20:46.41 | sputnick | but my Lenny disaprove |
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| 20:47.34 | ABCD | ...let me try this again... |
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| 20:48.45 | Setebos | ABCD, do you use virtualbox under linux ? if so i recommand you to prefer kvm/qemu |
| 20:48.45 | starbuck11 | hi all, i uncommentet # "\e[5~": history-search-backward in /etc/inputrc - but it didnt have an effect, i logged out and in again. |
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| 20:49.35 | ABCD | Setebos: the error I get actually doesn't seem to have anything to do with the VM, and everything to do with the vesa driver :) |
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| 20:49.55 | ABCD | I hit enter at the wrong time, but I'm getting a "missing symbol" error |
| 20:50.48 | Setebos | ABCD, yeah sure, but if you do a netstat, you'll see some TCP connexion opened by virtualbox, a la bigbrother, that's why i dislike virtualbox |
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| 20:51.45 | ABCD | specifically, "/usr/bin/X: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//vesa_drv.so: undefined symbol: xf86GTFMode" |
| 20:51.55 | tomONtux | hi all, i have one stupid Q : because i am not debian guru .... can i change repository of etch - unstable to new debian 5. . plz ? and run apt-get dist-upgrade ?? |
| 20:51.57 | sputnick | Setebos: virtualbox works well... |
| 20:52.13 | ABCD | Setebos: also, I cannot use kvm - don't have the right CPU |
| 20:52.13 | sputnick | no need to change to qemu or whatever |
| 20:52.30 | jabis | virtualbox is really good |
| 20:52.33 | Setebos | sputnick, either kvm/qemu, with the cirruslogic driver |
| 20:53.25 | Setebos | jabis, yeah if it doesn't bother you to have strange TCP connexion going outside your station |
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| 20:53.50 | jabis | that's why I have hard firewall, lol |
| 20:54.51 | Setebos | and kvm/qemu is well supported under debian, no need to had external stuff |
| 20:55.29 | jabis | qemu didn't work as well as vbox on my hardware |
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| 20:55.58 | Setebos | jabis, with kvm ? |
| 20:56.22 | buntfalke | Can I not use the debian-packaged gpg to encrypt things when the pubkey of the reciepient has a DSA-subkey? |
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| 20:56.59 | ABCD | Setebos: also, I've tried qemu, and VirtualBox works better (at least, with other guests) |
| 20:57.03 | Setebos | I run XP with qemu, I only dislike you use of that old OpenSoundSystem instead of alsa |
| 20:57.08 | ABCD | (and I cannot use kvm, so that doesn't help) |
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| 20:57.15 | valdyn | Setebos: are you talking about virtualbox-ose or something not from debian? |
| 20:57.22 | zack23 | There's a spike in my apache traffic and I think it's suspicious - how can I track down IP addresses that are hitting it too much? I can tail the access log but don't see anything yet bandwidth is triple today |
| 20:57.55 | stew | zack23: perhaps try iptraf |
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| 20:58.19 | Setebos | valdyn, I was saying I prefer KVM/qemu over virtualbox, because this one open few TCP connexions to the outside .... |
| 20:58.26 | zack23 | stew: thank you :) |
| 20:58.28 | beardy | zack23: Or iftop, or tcpcountrack |
| 20:58.43 | valdyn | Setebos: yea, you were implying that vbox might be spyware, but its also in debian |
| 20:58.58 | valdyn | Setebos: so that does not exactly make sense if you were talking about vbox-ose |
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| 21:00.14 | Setebos | really ???? virtualbox in debian ???? i was not consideration virtualbox like a real community opensource software valdyn |
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| 21:00.50 | valdyn | virtualbox-ose - x86-Virtualisierungs-Lösung - Binärprogramme |
| 21:00.58 | valdyn | oh, wrong locale |
| 21:00.59 | ABCD | Setebos: VirtualBox-OSE is GPL2 |
| 21:01.07 | Setebos | ah yeah; apt-cache search virtualbox .... |
| 21:01.12 | Setebos | I seee |
| 21:01.45 | ABCD | so anyway, can anyone help with my actual problem? - that is, X11 reporting "/usr/bin/X: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//vesa_drv.so: undefined symbol: xf86GTFMode" |
| 21:02.13 | Setebos | I have tested virtualbox a couple of years now, and the opensource version doesn't have lan support at this time |
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| 21:02.45 | Eulex | ABCD, etch/lenny/squeeze/sid? |
| 21:02.49 | ABCD | Eulex: sid |
| 21:02.57 | Eulex | ABCD, did you check the bts? |
| 21:03.27 | Setebos | ABCD is it a sid ? |
| 21:03.47 | ABCD | Eulex: I checked, but couldn't find anything relevent |
| 21:03.49 | Setebos | this is a known bug under sid |
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| 21:04.00 | ABCD | Setebos: oh |
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| 21:04.29 | ABCD | Setebos: could you give me a bug number, as I couldn't find it in any of my searches |
| 21:04.41 | zack23 | beardy: Thanks for the suggestion for iptraf. So I just run this for a while and see what's up? |
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| 21:05.09 | Arrowmaster | ah still no bash 4.0 in experimental =( |
| 21:05.12 | Setebos | Bug#488932 ABCD |
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| 21:06.49 | lifestream | Could someone paste their sources.list, for a perpetual unstable debian? Thank you |
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| 21:07.09 | Eulex | Arrowmaster, 3 days? do you think they're made of speed? :D |
| 21:07.31 | Setebos | Bug#489051 ABCD, it's talking about your bug under virtualbox with a patch |
| 21:07.41 | Eulex | lifestream, you're supposed to be able to setup your sources.list yourself if you run sid. |
| 21:07.41 | beered | How can I make sure that my kernel supports dual-cpu? |
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| 21:07.58 | beered | Is there a command that can tell me that the existing kernel supports a dual cpu processors? |
| 21:08.05 | Setebos | uname -a beered |
| 21:08.15 | beered | Setebos: nope. I get nothing. |
| 21:08.20 | Setebos | you must read SMP |
| 21:08.24 | beered | 2.6.26-1-powerpc #1 Sat Jan 10 14:00:38 CET 2009 ppc GNU/Linux |
| 21:08.30 | beered | no dual cpu info. |
| 21:08.43 | Setebos | no SMP no dual processor |
| 21:08.45 | lifestream | Eulex, I understand how the sources + apt work, I'm just not sure where I use the word "unstable". I cannot find that info online. If you can send me to the right page, I'd apreciate it. |
| 21:08.55 | Setebos | cat /proc/cpuinfo beered |
| 21:08.56 | beered | Setebos: oh... crap. :-) |
| 21:09.26 | Setebos | but I |
| 21:09.28 | Eulex | lifestream, any specific reason you need a sources.list for unstable? |
| 21:09.29 | Arrowmaster | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sid main non-free contrib |
| 21:09.37 | beered | Setebos: I guess I have to recompile. |
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| 21:10.15 | Setebos | i'm not sure because i'm not familiar with power pc, see my uname -a : Linux Thelonious 2.6.25.4 #16 SMP PREEMPT Sat Feb 14 14:45:14 CET 2009 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 21:10.20 | lifestream | Eulex, Like I said, I'm not sure where I'd use the word "unstable" or "sid". I've read to replace all "stables" with "unstables" but that doesn't seem to be right. |
| 21:10.40 | Setebos | see the SMP flag beered ? |
| 21:11.04 | Eulex | lifestream, any specific reason you want/need unstable instead of stable? |
| 21:11.07 | beered | Setebos: no. 2.6.26-1-powerpc #1 Sat Jan 10 14:00:38 CET 2009 ppc GNU/Linux |
| 21:11.13 | lifestream | Eulex, up to date software |
| 21:11.25 | nkuttler | lifestream: man sources.list answers your question |
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| 21:11.30 | Kuifje111 | hello all |
| 21:11.33 | Setebos | beered, well, make menuconfig again and again ;-) |
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| 21:11.36 | skorpan | hi. does anyone have a debian etch repository for python 2.6.1? |
| 21:11.47 | Eulex | lifestream, lenny was released 9 days ago. you'll be fine on it for a while. any specific new software you need? |
| 21:11.56 | Kuifje111 | i've installed unrealircd today, but it doesnt start, it says: /src/ircd is not a directory or file |
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| 21:12.15 | Kuifje111 | any idea? |
| 21:12.16 | lifestream | Eulex, I have lenny, its not as up to date as I'd like. As much as I <3 debian, I'm willing to take the risk to have more up to date software |
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| 21:12.29 | nkuttler | Kuifje111: how did you install it? |
| 21:12.29 | ma3x | hello |
| 21:12.40 | lifestream | Thank you nkuttler, I had only read man apt |
| 21:12.45 | Kuifje111 | nkuttler, extract the tar, and then ./config |
| 21:12.58 | Kuifje111 | so.. from source |
| 21:12.58 | Setebos | well have fun, i'm leaving ! |
| 21:13.02 | ma3x | why when i do grub-install (inside chroot) i get grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /. and cannot find a device for /boot |
| 21:13.12 | ma3x | i do grub-install '(hd0)' |
| 21:13.13 | Eulex | lifestream, you should be aware that unstable sometimes breaks, and when it does, you get to keep the pieces. |
| 21:13.14 | Setebos | exit |
| 21:13.20 | nkuttler | Kuifje111: sounds like you need to go through it's documentation |
| 21:13.48 | lifestream | Eulex, what's the fun of living and learning nothing? I'm willing to learn from my mistakes -- or unstable's mistakes ^^ |
| 21:13.52 | Eulex | lifestream, unless you can fix it yourself, and that requires knowledge about dpkg and apt |
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| 21:14.19 | lifestream | Don't worry, I'm going going to come here and curse at you when things break |
| 21:14.22 | serge | hey. |
| 21:14.32 | lifestream | I've been with linux sincce 97, I've seen my share of broken apps xD |
| 21:14.48 | lifestream | Just not a linux as good as debian, sadly. (It was red hat *gags*) |
| 21:14.53 | Eulex | lifestream, well, go ahead then. but also note that unstable is not supported by this channel. and yes, the person who told you how to change your sources.list to an unstable one was right; except that unstable has no security repo. |
| 21:15.00 | serge | that lin is so strange.. i have copied from net an file with iceweseal and now can't locate this file:D |
| 21:15.02 | lifestream | *Im not going to come here *typo sorry |
| 21:15.35 | Kuifje111 | ok, got it, nkuttler, thanks for the simple but wise tip |
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| 21:16.15 | lifestream | Thank you Eulex |
| 21:16.30 | Eulex | lifestream, am I right in that you already know how to then actually upgrade? |
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| 21:16.44 | serge | it is totaly strange operation system |
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| 21:17.06 | onur | Hi. Can i instal build dependencies from a control file? |
| 21:17.07 | ABCD | I just upgraded to the version in experimental, and now everything works :) |
| 21:17.28 | serge | lol |
| 21:17.33 | Eulex | serge, debian? |
| 21:17.35 | lifestream | Eulex, It's just I'm sick to adding repos for a *lot* of software that I want to keep up to date ^^ |
| 21:17.53 | serge | weseal have stored it in /root/Desktop/ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso... ia have used locate to locate it |
| 21:18.01 | serge | Eulex, aha.. |
| 21:18.06 | Eulex | lifestream, the less repos, the less problems. ideally you should just have official debian mirrors. |
| 21:18.21 | nkuttler | onur: why not use apt-get to get them? |
| 21:18.22 | enouf | ma3x: maybe pass it the --root-directory= option |
| 21:18.29 | Eulex | serge, you ran iceweasel as root? |
| 21:18.55 | serge | Eulex ah yee, that was.. |
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| 21:19.46 | Arrowmaster | downloading ubuntu from debian while running the browser as root, classic |
| 21:19.49 | zamar | hola ! |
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| 21:20.31 | Eulex | hola zamar |
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| 21:20.47 | etb | anyone has a us robotics router/ap? |
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| 21:21.02 | FreakGuard | how to link a device statically to a certain udev node? |
| 21:21.11 | FreakGuard | I've got an usb-drive prone to disconnect :( |
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| 21:21.24 | Eulex | FreakGuard, you don't. |
| 21:21.39 | FreakGuard | Eulex, so what else to do? |
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| 21:21.55 | Eulex | FreakGuard, take a look in /dev/disk/by-uuid/ and /dev/sidk/by-label/ |
| 21:21.57 | Eulex | *disk |
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| 21:23.14 | ma3x | enouf: is there any way i can clear the mbr in linux? |
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| 21:23.41 | etb | my swivel antenna doesn't fit the hole in my us robotics AP. anyone know what to do? |
| 21:23.54 | enouf | FreakGuard: write a udev rule |
| 21:24.28 | enouf | ma3x: what? why? .. and yes |
| 21:24.37 | Eulex | enouf, no need, uuids and labels are static. |
| 21:24.47 | ma3x | enouf: im not sure if i installed grub on /dev/sda1 or /dev/sda so i get error 22 on boot now |
| 21:24.50 | FreakGuard | Eulex, let's see |
| 21:24.52 | format_c | ma3x, dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 |
| 21:25.00 | enouf | Eulex: looking at it makes it work? :-P |
| 21:25.36 | sepult | format_c: count=1 |
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| 21:25.50 | Tramp | ma3x: don't try what format_c just told you |
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| 21:26.01 | Tramp | format_c: stop giving destructive advice! |
| 21:26.17 | format_c | sepult, oh shit you're right |
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| 21:26.32 | Eulex | enouf, hmm, did I perhaps misunderstand his question? he wanted static device names for his usb drive, the ones in by-uuid and by-label are static. |
| 21:26.32 | format_c | sry |
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| 21:27.11 | enouf | Eulex: /me shrugs |
| 21:27.13 | ABCD | ma3x: what format_c just said can really mess things up (even if you add the "count=1" part) - because in addition to the bootloader, the MBR also contains the partition table :) |
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| 21:27.51 | dondelelcaro | ma3x: if you need to fix the mbr, use install-mbr from the mbr package |
| 21:27.57 | sepult | partition tables aren't at those addresses |
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| 21:28.15 | enouf | the MPT sure is |
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| 21:29.12 | Tramp | sepult: of course they are. they are the final 68-4 bytes (the final 4 bytes are the MBR signature, FFAA iirc) |
| 21:29.28 | stoned | Gov regulated open source software |
| 21:29.39 | stoned | oop s |
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| 21:30.21 | ma3x | hm now after boot i get MBR FA: |
| 21:30.29 | enouf | Tramp: last two -- 55 AA |
| 21:30.31 | ma3x | haha funny as hell |
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| 21:31.26 | sepult | Tram: does he have to repartition after he writes zeroes ? |
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| 21:32.13 | Tramp | enouf: right, 55AA |
| 21:33.01 | Tramp | sepult: he would have to either (1) repartition (2) dd a backup (3) there is some tool which tries to find partition-boundaries, but I've forgotten the name (so he'd have to google) |
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| 21:33.44 | sepult | Tram: just fdisking and setting the boundary after the first 512 ? |
| 21:34.34 | Tramp | sepult: no idea, what you mean - and it's "Tramp" not "Tram" |
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| 21:34.43 | enouf | !gpart |
| 21:34.43 | dpkg | i guess gpart is a great tool to recover partition table when deleted some partitions by mistakes or overwrited the partition table - Now in Debian, install it the usual way .. or go get it at: http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/filesystems/gpart-0.1b.tar.gz, or more recent verstion at authors site: http://www.stud.uni-hannover.de/user/76201/gpart/, or see also <testdisk> |
| 21:34.46 | sepult | Tramp: oh sorry |
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| 21:35.16 | ma3x | enouf: familiar what 'MBR FA:' means? |
| 21:35.19 | ma3x | i get that upon bootup |
| 21:35.25 | enouf | nope |
| 21:35.36 | chrisjw | anyone know how to view any shared memory segments from terminal? |
| 21:35.54 | chrisjw | nvm found it |
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| 21:38.06 | Knight_Lord | Is there any way to test iptable rules? |
| 21:38.45 | stew | Knight_Lord: replace -j DROP or -j REJECT with -j LOG ? |
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| 21:39.39 | Knight_Lord | stew: I was thinking of without changing the firewalls rules |
| 21:39.45 | kode_ | does anyone know how to solve adobe flash's browser crashing behavior? :D |
| 21:39.48 | Knight_Lord | stew: if I change them i'm not testing the same thing |
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| 21:40.17 | kode_ | its rather crash happy on my system |
| 21:40.21 | dkr | Knight_Lord: can't break the laws of physics, you change the system by observing it. :) |
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| 21:40.42 | enouf | ma3x: fa might be the beginning of the word failed - but that's a guess |
| 21:40.56 | Knight_Lord | dkr: but there was an option in the old ipchains just to test where a certain packet goes to |
| 21:41.00 | dkr | Knight_Lord: you could add a log rule immediately before the drop or reject |
| 21:41.25 | Knight_Lord | dkr: I'm not just interested on knowing if it's blocked or not, but also about nat translations |
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| 21:41.38 | stew | Knight_Lord: ask #iptables |
| 21:41.42 | Knight_Lord | ok thanks |
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| 21:42.13 | dkr | Knight_Lord: yeah, maybe you can load a feth-o-matic iptables extension to let you do that. those guys would know |
| 21:42.14 | kode_ | does anyone use ipchains anymore, i dont see a way to install it from the repositories |
| 21:42.19 | beered | I have SMP support now in my kernel. 2.6.26-1-powerpc-smp #1 SMP Sat Jan 10 14:19:52 CET 2009 ppc GNU/Linux |
| 21:42.20 | kode_ | i've never used anything except iptasbles |
| 21:42.36 | beered | Is there a way to see bogomips or (hopefully increased) preformance gains in some way? |
| 21:42.37 | kode_ | and would i want to even if i could.. |
| 21:42.46 | dkr | kode_: ipchains was kernel 2.2, iptables is 2.4. and 2.6 which is what we ar eon now |
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| 21:43.05 | daMull | hi folks |
| 21:43.26 | stew | beered: bogomips are not really realted to performance, unless you are interested in how fast your cpu can not do anything |
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| 21:43.55 | beered | stew: stew, your old cat. is there a way to check cpu preformance in some (easy) way? |
| 21:44.12 | daMull | I know this is not strictly on topic here, but is there a "hardware guru" here .. I got some serious hardware trouble and don't know how to nail it down |
| 21:44.44 | dkr | daMull: ##hardware |
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| 21:45.01 | daMull | thx dkr |
| 21:45.25 | stew | beered: i don't know |
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| 21:52.38 | helo | monitor too |
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| 21:56.53 | sepult | what's it good for ? anyone using it ? |
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| 22:00.52 | sameerynho | when i try to update my local repo with debmirror i get this error : http://pastebin.com/m239d4e28 |
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| 22:01.10 | sameerynho | what's wrong ? |
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| 22:02.54 | sameerynho | please help me |
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| 22:08.26 | fireba11 | sameerynho : well since lenny went stable recently the new testing might not be on that mirror yet. try another one |
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| 22:15.19 | adb | Packages and Sources doesn't exist anymore on mirrors , but strange they are present in ftp.xx.debian.org//debian/dists/testing/Release, |
| 22:15.51 | adb | sameerynho: ^^ |
| 22:16.10 | feitingen | so, potato ->woody -> etch -> lenny -> sid -> ? |
| 22:16.16 | feitingen | where am i wrong? |
| 22:16.23 | dondelelcaro | feitingen: -> sid |
| 22:16.37 | dondelelcaro | sid doesn't ever release, so doesn't have a place is such a schema |
| 22:16.43 | Eulex | feitingen, except that sid is a moving target |
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| 22:16.55 | sameerynho | adb: so what should i use as a -h in debmirror? |
| 22:17.00 | CaT[t3] | lenny -> squeeze afaik |
| 22:17.07 | Eulex | feitingen, when testing is released as stable, a new testing is created |
| 22:17.21 | feitingen | ah :) |
| 22:17.23 | dondelelcaro | adb: theey're present compressed; they're in the release file so you could examine the uncompressed version if you had it |
| 22:17.31 | feitingen | but otherwise, i was right? |
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| 22:17.51 | dondelelcaro | feitingen: yes. /msg dpkg release history; if you want to know about it |
| 22:18.19 | onur | feitingen: you forgot the sarge |
| 22:18.31 | adb | sameerynho: any , and just ignore message errors |
| 22:18.33 | feitingen | tbh, i would like to know how i could upgrade from potato to the current release, but it seems like too much work.. |
| 22:18.53 | sameerynho | adb: how? |
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| 22:19.09 | CaT[t3] | fei: take it one release at a time |
| 22:19.16 | Eulex | feitingen, you upgrade from potato to sarge, then from sarge to etch, and then from etch to lenny |
| 22:19.31 | stew | feitingen: youd'd first upgrade from potato to woody, from woody to sarge, from sarge to etch then etch to lenny |
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| 22:19.34 | edju | seems i need lucview for the webcam, but i can't find it. anybody? |
| 22:19.36 | stew | Eulex: (forgot woody :)) |
| 22:19.36 | feitingen | and it would take me foremer, right? |
| 22:19.43 | dondelelcaro | feitingen: not really |
| 22:19.44 | Eulex | stew, ow |
| 22:19.57 | Eulex | feitingen, yeah, woody in between potato and sarge too |
| 22:20.20 | Eulex | feitingen, depends on the computer and your internet downlink |
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| 22:20.28 | Eulex | and how many packages you have installed |
| 22:20.45 | dondelelcaro | you could probably skip some releases too, but it's not supported (and you'd have to know enough to fix any problems that occured) |
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| 22:21.25 | stew | but you'd better be on a 2.6 kernel before you get to lenny, and probably before you get to etch |
| 22:21.38 | stew | and on a 2.4 kernel before you get to etch |
| 22:22.37 | CaT[t3] | and don't forget to sacrafice a goat before you begin |
| 22:22.45 | abrotman | and probably uninstall and unneeded programs before starting |
| 22:22.48 | abrotman | any |
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| 22:23.18 | tclineks | is it possible to do uid/gid mapping with nfs-kernel-server? |
| 22:23.44 | feitingen | thanks, i will probably image the whole thing and do it in qemu a few times |
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| 22:25.19 | adb | sameerynho: btw, first i'll restrict to main only the mirror, and maybe remove lock file |
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| 22:25.53 | sameerynho | adb: where is the lock file? |
| 22:26.39 | sameerynho | adb: i try just main but i get same error |
| 22:26.53 | adb | sameerynho: in dir mirror sa hidden /. |
| 22:26.59 | osFrenchDude | ,kernel |
| 22:27.01 | Farhadix | In lenny>gnome or lxde, when I click on a drive, drive will be mount auto. gnome/lxde how knows that where mount this drive? fstab haven't any line about this drives |
| 22:27.28 | adb | sameerynho: what's your command ? |
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| 22:27.54 | sameerynho | adb: debmirror -a i386 -s main -h ftp.tr.debian.org -d testing ./ -p -e http |
| 22:28.06 | osFrenchDude | do you know a good tutorial to compile your own kernel, please..? |
| 22:28.19 | sameerynho | adb: there is no lock file in debian dir |
| 22:28.52 | adb | as hidden |
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| 22:34.29 | sameerynho | adb: i cant find lock file ? does my command correct? |
| 22:34.51 | adb | it seems so ... |
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| 22:34.58 | dkr | !tell osFrenchDude about kernel-package |
| 22:35.08 | cafuego | which reminds me |
| 22:35.13 | adb | !debmirror |
| 22:35.13 | dpkg | methinks debmirror is a method of mirroring apt repositories on debian. |
| 22:35.16 | VieQ | hello, how do I downgrade manualy installed pkgs |
| 22:35.36 | adb | !downgrade |
| 22:35.37 | dpkg | methinks downgrade is not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later, and package maintainer scripts provide ways to upgrade to new config file formats but not ways to downgrade. You can always try to downgrade a package using dpkg -i <olderversion.deb>. Also see <partial downgrade>, or <sdn> |
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| 22:35.57 | abrotman | gives channel operator status to dpkg |
| 22:36.10 | VieQ | well, it's more complicated |
| 22:36.20 | VieQ | I complied them from the source |
| 22:36.33 | VieQ | which pretty much f* my system :) |
| 22:37.15 | VieQ | they were pkg-conf 2.3 & GLIB 2.23 |
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| 22:37.47 | VieQ | any Ideas? |
| 22:38.08 | VieQ | gdm firstly stoped working |
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| 22:38.21 | cafuego | VieQ: Next time around, use /usr/local as the install path. |
| 22:38.21 | VieQ | then every thing stoped working |
| 22:38.42 | abrotman | VieQ: wtf... why would you think that's a good idea? |
| 22:38.46 | VieQ | I used the generic install scripts |
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| 22:39.04 | osFrenchDude | dkr: thank you |
| 22:39.06 | VieQ | all I wanted to do is to complile xchat |
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| 22:39.14 | cafuego | VieQ: Do a fresh install, restore your data from backup, don't trash the system again. |
| 22:39.21 | VieQ | which led me to here now :) |
| 22:39.29 | abrotman | VieQ: which version of debian is this? |
| 22:39.33 | adb | sameerynho: try >>> debmirror -a i386 -s main -h ftp.tr.debian.org --ignore-missing-release -d testing http |
| 22:39.34 | VieQ | cafuego: that's what I doing right now |
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| 22:39.46 | VieQ | not debian, debian derivtive |
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| 22:40.00 | abrotman | then go to that channel for support .. |
| 22:40.07 | VieQ | cafuego: talking to you from a live cd useing irssi |
| 22:40.14 | abrotman | VieQ: which one? |
| 22:40.22 | cafuego | VieQ: *IF* you need to install from source, use the deb source scripts to at the very least create a custom .deb |
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| 22:40.29 | VieQ | abrotman: do you really want to know? |
| 22:40.40 | abrotman | VieQ: no, go to their channel, we do not support debian-based distros, last warning |
| 22:40.46 | VieQ | cafuego: I 'll keep that in mine |
| 22:41.03 | VieQ | abrotman: ok chill out I won't ask again |
| 22:41.18 | n0on3 | \whois |
| 22:41.36 | VieQ | thanks guys |
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| 22:41.55 | sameerynho | adb: now i getting packages.gz |
| 22:43.12 | adb | now must be ok |
| 22:44.16 | adb | and add "--nosource " |
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| 22:45.05 | sameerynho | adb: what is that? |
| 22:45.09 | adb | remove http/.test |
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| 22:46.02 | adb | not adding source packages to all your packages |
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| 22:46.24 | adb | ... that may double your mirror |
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| 22:51.37 | aiuw | http://pastie.org/397925 <--- my sources.list , error: W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs: 4D270D06F42584E6 |
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| 22:53.14 | sameerynho | adb: now i get this: |
| 22:53.17 | sameerynho | adb: Download of dists/testing/main/binary-i386/Packages failed: 404 Not Found dists/testing/main/binary-i386/Packages failed md5sum check |
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| 22:53.43 | xchat | ÈÙ |
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| 22:53.56 | xchat | sorry |
| 22:54.24 | sputnick | Setebos: are you still there ? "190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022 045 040 045 Old_age Always FAILING_NOW 55 (3 39 56 44)" that's a smartclt line |
| 22:54.46 | adb | sameerynho: same as prevous ... |
| 22:55.06 | sameerynho | adb: do you have any idea? |
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| 22:55.42 | adb | do you used ? --ignore-missing-release |
| 22:55.52 | sameerynho | adb: yeah |
| 22:56.21 | adb | here is ok , i use my last command |
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| 22:56.39 | sameerynho | adb: in which server? |
| 22:57.08 | adb | server doesn't count |
| 22:57.41 | sameerynho | adb i use that command in my local debian dir . does it matter? |
| 22:57.51 | adb | maybe |
| 22:58.09 | adb | use a normal directory as http |
| 22:58.26 | sameerynho | adb: what? |
| 22:58.36 | Kuifje111 | http://www.go2linux.org/pics/single_pictures/sandwich.png |
| 22:59.00 | adb | use http not ".http" |
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| 22:59.29 | rektide | hal is giving me problems in install, but all i get is a post process error |
| 22:59.39 | sameerynho | adb: where ? do you mean in command and -e parameter? |
| 22:59.39 | rektide | is there any way to make apt/aptitude give me more information about the failure? |
| 22:59.52 | rektide | theres not enough information to have any idea what its complaining aobut |
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| 23:00.34 | adb | sameerynho: restart with this command " debmirror -a i386 -s main -h ftp.ch.debian.org -d testing --nosource -progress --nocleanup --ignore-missing-release http " |
| 23:00.35 | ma3x | which image is for intel core 2 duo? 2.6.26-1-686 ? |
| 23:00.45 | adb | ah no |
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| 23:01.28 | adb | sameerynho: this command " debmirror -a i386 -s main -h ftp.ch.debian.org -d testing --nosource --progress --nocleanup --ignore-missing-release http " |
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| 23:03.05 | adb | change ftp.ch. to > ftp.tr |
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| 23:04.17 | s3a | is there an actual link that tells u the packages included in dvd 1-5 of lenny? like i want to no which packages are in which DVDs |
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| 23:08.52 | themill | dpkg: tell s3a about cd contents |
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| 23:10.15 | lifestream | Hey does anyone have newest version of gnome-do (0.8-something) in debian? |
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| 23:11.54 | adb | !newest |
| 23:11.54 | dpkg | newest is, like, *not* a useful answer. Newest 5 minutes ago? Newest 3 days ago? Newest in stable? testing? unstable? Is your mirror in sync? If someone asks what version of foo you have installed, paste the last line of "dpkg -l foo". For your kernel, use "uname -r". For your Debian, say "4.0", "Etch",similar. |
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| 23:13.54 | pythos | sorry for offtopic, but I am seeking chat with people about pro-audio. Perhaps there is a channel I coudl try? |
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| 23:14.43 | lifestream | adb, well, the latest gnome-do the developer released. :P |
| 23:15.24 | adb | ah...a |
| 23:15.35 | esaym | when do I need to flag a partitions as bootable? |
| 23:15.56 | esaym | seems even though a partition is not flagged as bootable that it can still boot? |
| 23:16.11 | pythos | esaym, seems so, yes |
| 23:16.24 | pythos | in liux, yes |
| 23:16.34 | esaym | hmm |
| 23:16.35 | pythos | erp, linux |
| 23:16.42 | esaym | so to flag or not to flag? |
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| 23:17.12 | adb | that's the question ! |
| 23:17.13 | pythos | never seemd to make a difference, so I do, OR not |
| 23:18.00 | pythos | perhaps different bootloaders would behave strangely if there were flag or no, but I haven't seen them |
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| 23:19.21 | esaym | hmm, lame |
| 23:19.29 | multi_io | what's wrong here?? |
| 23:19.31 | earl3982 | hi.. i'm having trouble with lenny, how can i use etch instead? |
| 23:19.34 | multi_io | um... |
| 23:19.39 | earl3982 | something i can do under sources.list? |
| 23:19.48 | zleap | earl3982, what sort of problems with lenny are you having |
| 23:19.54 | serghei | !pastbin |
| 23:19.56 | multi_io | in Iceweasel, for this page: http://www.hibernate.org/161.html?cmd=prntdoc , the print preview looks like this: http://user.cs.tu-berlin.de/~klischat/printpreview.png . Note the cut-off lines. The actual printout looks just the same. |
| 23:19.59 | earl3982 | problem with elographics touchscreen |
| 23:20.02 | earl3982 | its a documented problem |
| 23:20.04 | earl3982 | i know what i'm doign |
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| 23:20.14 | serghei | anyone know an pastbin.. |
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| 23:20.18 | earl3982 | just want to use etch for now |
| 23:20.22 | themill | dpkg: tell serghei about pastebin |
| 23:20.25 | multi_io | apparently this doesn't happen with an original Firefox 3.0 RC1 under Fedora here |
| 23:20.27 | themill | earl3982: if you've already got lenny installed, then no. You can't downgrade. /msg dpkg reinstall |
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| 23:21.04 | earl3982 | im starting from scratch |
| 23:21.09 | earl3982 | and i have a etch cd |
| 23:21.22 | themill | multi_io: works fine for me. |
| 23:21.48 | earl3982 | a netinstall though |
| 23:22.06 | adb | !paste |
| 23:22.06 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! |
| 23:22.08 | themill | earl3982: that's the only image I never use. |
| 23:22.23 | adb | serghei: ^^ |
| 23:22.36 | serghei | 10x |
| 23:22.48 | sameerynho | adb: i do as you told and process get stop in 3% with this: |
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| 23:22.59 | sameerynho | Timeout at /usr/share/perl/5.10/Net/FTP.pm line 491 |
| 23:22.59 | sameerynho | WARNING: releasing 1 pending lock... |
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| 23:23.38 | adb | sameerynho: so use onother mirror |
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| 23:24.40 | serghei | can anyone help me to remove epiphany web browser... |
| 23:24.57 | earl3982 | well? |
| 23:24.57 | zleap | apt-get remove epiphany perhaps |
| 23:25.32 | serghei | sorry, it is needed to remove epiphany-gecko to acctualy remove web browser, but this produce dependencies problems. |
| 23:25.42 | zleap | k |
| 23:25.47 | serghei | i have tried to remoe it with dpkg -P epiphany-gecko |
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| 23:26.10 | zleap | apt is usually good with dependancies |
| 23:26.19 | zleap | if it removes em, it means other programs don't need em |
| 23:26.20 | zleap | i guess |
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| 23:26.33 | themill | serghei: can you pastebin the output of "aptitude remove epiphany-gecko" |
| 23:27.03 | multi_io | themill: sure. That's part of the problem I think :-P |
| 23:27.03 | ma3x | which linux-image is for intel core 2 duo? 2.6.26-1-686 ? |
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| 23:27.25 | SaLiH | ma3x: 486 |
| 23:27.25 | multi_io | themill: thanks anyway |
| 23:27.29 | silven | which debian package contains sshd? |
| 23:27.34 | SaLiH | anf amd64 |
| 23:27.40 | zleap | is there a smp package |
| 23:27.47 | themill | dpkg: tell SaLiH about search |
| 23:27.52 | zleap | silven apt-cache search sshd |
| 23:28.01 | silven | thank you. |
| 23:28.02 | themill | multi_io: iceweasel printing is a little mysterious... |
| 23:28.04 | zleap | np |
| 23:28.04 | serghei | themill, is a little big.. http://paste.debian.net/29069/ |
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| 23:28.13 | serghei | it is* |
| 23:28.18 | themill | SaLiH: bah... that wasn't for you :( |
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| 23:28.27 | SaLiH | nope |
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| 23:29.33 | antii | need help, lets say im in a folder like /var/www and in /var/www/pics and im switching fromo those folders all the time, any way to go back to previous folder instead of home? |
| 23:30.10 | KavanS | antii: cd .. |
| 23:30.14 | KavanS | ;) |
| 23:30.17 | themill | serghei: you need to have *some* browser installed for gnome to be happy. Install any of the packages listed under "Provides" in the output of " apt-cache showpkg gnome-www-browser" and you'll be able to remove epiphany-gecko |
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| 23:30.37 | antii | KavanS: ... |
| 23:30.49 | themill | antii: in most shells, "cd -" |
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| 23:31.04 | KavanS | antii: my bad....I thought you meant previous in a different way |
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| 23:31.30 | antii | thank you |
| 23:31.32 | antii | less painful way |
| 23:31.32 | antii | :D |
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| 23:31.56 | themill | antii: there's also pushd and popd that can be helpful and the environment variable CDPATH. |
| 23:32.12 | antii | cd - was enough |
| 23:32.12 | antii | t |
| 23:32.13 | antii | y |
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| 23:38.51 | martian67 | hello |
| 23:38.58 | antii | HELL0 |
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| 23:39.11 | martian67 | i have a dlink DFE-538TX |
| 23:39.23 | martian67 | that appears to be realtek 8139 based |
| 23:39.32 | martian67 | but its not detected by the kernel |
| 23:39.38 | martian67 | any ideas? |
| 23:39.55 | KavanS | I have similar cards....they detect in debian etch 4.0 fine |
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| 23:39.58 | KavanS | not sure on the dlink side... |
| 23:40.01 | pl4yer0ne | how does it appear to be a 8139? |
| 23:40.12 | mischief- | martian67: realtek provides linux sources iirc |
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| 23:40.37 | martian67 | pl4yer0ne, because other cards that are the same model but different revisions are |
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| 23:40.50 | themill | martian67: can you tell us the line for the device from "lspci -nn" |
| 23:40.59 | martian67 | also, the onboard chips are the same names, but the numbering is bumped a little |
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| 23:41.11 | martian67 | one sec |
| 23:41.38 | themill | martian67: or just the 8-digit pci-id if you have to transcribe it from another machine |
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| 23:41.40 | sputnick | !alsa |
| 23:41.40 | dpkg | ALSA is the Advanced Linux Sound Architecture. Debian has documentation at http://wiki.debian.org/ALSA or see <alsa install>, <alsa-checklist>, <alsa firmware>, <alsa versions>. #alsa on irc.freenode.net. |
| 23:41.43 | DynV | I'm already finding the files which are contained in the lot of directories but I need to recreated the directory structure so my thought is either determine which directories are not empty (they seem to all have 4k) or have a command which also copies the directory or part of it, why idea ? here's the listing I get from the fiond which you can see the directory part that interest me... |
| 23:41.45 | DynV | ...http://pastebin.com/d20825c79 |
| 23:41.56 | sputnick | !sound |
| 23:41.56 | dpkg | well, sound is ask me about <install alsa>, <alsa checklist>, <alsa one-liner>, <ac97>, <audio>, <dmix>, <esound>, <arts> and <devdsp>. |
| 23:42.05 | themill | sputnick: please /msg dpkg |
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| 23:44.20 | themill | DynV: I feel like there's something I'm missing with your question. What are you trying to do? |
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| 23:46.01 | martian67 | themill, KavanS mischief- the pci-id is 0113:0210 |
| 23:46.01 | martian67 | lspci reports "unknown device" |
| 23:46.01 | themill | judd: pciid 0113:0210 |
| 23:46.01 | judd | themill: [0113:0210] is 'Unknown device' from 'Unknown vendor' with no known kernel module in lenny or in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.cgi?check=1&lspci=0113:0210 |
| 23:46.06 | themill | so much fail :( |
| 23:46.24 | themill | No-one has ever heard of that beast. |
| 23:46.32 | martian67 | so it seems |
| 23:46.40 | martian67 | i was trying to mod the realtek driver |
| 23:46.51 | martian67 | but i did something wrong and got a kernel panic :V |
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| 23:47.21 | martian67 | because im completely certain that it is a realtek 8128 or w/e |
| 23:47.35 | pl4yer0ne | martian67, can you look at the card and see what the chip is? |
| 23:47.38 | lifestream | Hmmm does anyone have a deb or a repo of gnome-do 0.8? (yes i know I can compile but its not letting me make) |
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| 23:48.30 | martian67 | "DL100040C" |
| 23:48.38 | martian67 | made in taiwan |
| 23:48.45 | martian67 | supporting my realtek idea |
| 23:48.46 | martian67 | lol |
| 23:48.47 | Joelito | lifestream: why not? |
| 23:48.57 | bazz | can i edit the dependencies of a package (specifically the required versions of a few packages) without rebuilding the package somehow? |
| 23:49.13 | martian67 | no |
| 23:49.18 | InvalidNickName | Hello, Does somebody know how to copy a protected DVD? |
| 23:49.26 | pl4yer0ne | is that whats on the actual chip or just the board? |
| 23:49.29 | lifestream | Joelito, "the name Blaahblahbah does not exist in the current context", whatever that means :P |
| 23:49.39 | InvalidNickName | I have try with k3b, but it isn't working :( |
| 23:49.51 | Joelito | lifestream: you might need extra packages |
| 23:49.55 | bazz | martian67: was that a no to me? |
| 23:50.04 | martian67 | yes |
| 23:50.10 | lifestream | Joelito, hmmm autogen went OK |
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| 23:50.20 | martian67 | pl4yer0ne, thats whats on the chip |
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| 23:50.34 | pl4yer0ne | yeah weird |
| 23:50.42 | bazz | martian67: okay, so assume i -e the package, edit and edit the control file. is there a way to shove the new control file into the package? |
| 23:50.49 | martian67 | well its near identical |
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| 23:51.03 | martian67 | to the one that IS for sure realtek 8129 |
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| 23:51.19 | martian67 | like the pcb layout is almost the same |
| 23:51.27 | martian67 | and the chip name is very similar |
| 23:51.29 | pl4yer0ne | yeah but that means dick |
| 23:51.34 | martian67 | is there any way to force a pci-id |
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| 23:51.36 | martian67 | ? |
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| 23:52.06 | martian67 | like when you load a module? |
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| 23:52.25 | frankS2 | where is "ftpd" installed? apt-get install ftpd |
| 23:52.41 | pl4yer0ne | martian67, you can edit the code so that the module loads for that ID |
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| 23:53.03 | woonix | frankS2: "dpkg -L ftpd" will show you all the files in that package |
| 23:53.27 | DynV | themill: with the following structure /1/dir/fileX.ext /2/dir/fileY.ext /3/dir/ I want to copy the directories with content recreating the structure so that find ./*/dir/*.ext -type f -exec COMMAND /destination {} \; will result in ls /destination/1/dir/fileX.ext /destination/2/dir/fileY.ext |
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| 23:53.37 | frankS2 | woonix: thx |
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| 23:53.44 | DynV | notice no enpty directory |
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| 23:54.00 | DynV | themill: notice no enpty directory in the destination |
| 23:54.01 | InvalidNickName | Does somebody know how to copy a protected DVD? |
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| 23:54.12 | Ace2017_- | Does linux have an lcd fixing tool? |
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| 23:54.33 | zleap | lcd fixing tool |
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| 23:54.48 | woonix | What's there to fix? |
| 23:55.26 | emilien | hello , seem to be haveing flashnon-free problems no sound running debian lenny iceweasel version 3.0.6 |
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| 23:55.53 | Ace2017_- | woonix: prevent burnins |
| 23:56.02 | martian67 | pl4yer0ne, how do i remake a single module |
| 23:56.08 | martian67 | without rebuilding the whole tree:? |
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| 23:56.28 | pl4yer0ne | you compile just that module |
| 23:56.31 | Ace2017_- | emilien: what flash version? 32bit or 64bit, if 64bit are you using 64bit flash or 32bit flash with a 32bit browser or the plugin? |
| 23:56.33 | martian67 | how? |
| 23:56.39 | zleap | emilien, flash does cause issues |
| 23:57.04 | zleap | make <module name i guess> or in the source tree make should figure it out |
| 23:57.39 | themill | DynV: sounds like the easiest way is to copy the entire directory structure and then remove the bits you don't want. something like: cp -r source/ dest/ ; find -type d -empty -delete |
| 23:57.56 | emilien | Ace2017_-, 32 bit , Shockwave Flash 9.0 r152 |
| 23:58.04 | martian67 | pl4yer0ne, didnt work |
| 23:58.07 | martian67 | so what do i do now? |
| 23:58.26 | pl4yer0ne | hang on im reading |
| 23:58.33 | antii | a_A |
| 23:58.37 | DynV | themill: how would I know if the directory is tmpty & |
| 23:58.42 | DynV | empty* |
| 23:58.48 | emilien | Ace2017_-, funny thing is that it worked yesterday =/ |
| 23:59.07 | Ace2017_- | emilien: what firefox version? |
| 23:59.15 | pl4yer0ne | yeah apparently it should be using the 8139 driver |
| 23:59.22 | themill | DynV: umm... find does that for you. |
| 23:59.29 | pl4yer0ne | what version of debian are you running martian67 |
| 23:59.31 | emilien | Ace2017_-, iceweasel version 3.0.6 |
| 23:59.39 | martian67 | lenny |
