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| 00:00.09 | martian67 | the windows driver |
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| 00:00.34 | pl4yer0ne | martian67, try insmodding the 8139too driver |
| 00:00.37 | martian67 | is called is called is called VT3106J.ndi |
| 00:00.42 | martian67 | if that helps |
| 00:00.47 | martian67 | tried |
| 00:00.54 | pl4yer0ne | 8139cp? |
| 00:00.55 | martian67 | nothing shows up in ifconfig |
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| 00:00.57 | martian67 | same |
| 00:01.14 | ryanarchy | weird question: I have a directory with a mode of -rwxrwxrwx, how do I fix it so it's a directory again, I think a bad tar killed it |
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| 00:01.24 | pl4yer0ne | does dmesg show anything when you load 8139too |
| 00:01.31 | martian67 | nope |
| 00:01.54 | themill | pl4yer0ne: the pciid doesn't match so the module won't do anything |
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| 00:02.53 | pl4yer0ne | its weird though because the doco says to install it like the DFE-530TX+ |
| 00:03.13 | martian67 | like i said the windows driver is called VT3106J.ndi if that helps at all |
| 00:03.13 | pl4yer0ne | so yeah maybe your only choice is to edit the pciids |
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| 00:04.29 | pl4yer0ne | gimme a sec to see if i can see what needs to be done |
| 00:04.46 | martian67 | pl4yer0ne, ive already tried it with 8139too |
| 00:04.48 | martian67 | no effect |
| 00:04.56 | Ace2017_- | emilien: uninstall the old flash from the repo, download http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ download the tar.gz, extract it, copy libflashplayer.so to /usr/lib/flashplugin/libflashplayer.so, then create a symlink /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins/ which points to libflashplayer.so and also symlinks for other browsers you use like opera, konqueror |
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| 00:05.54 | mischief- | can anyone tell me how i can use aptitude to remove postfix and have it not suggest other mail daemons to install? |
| 00:06.06 | themill | dpkg: tell mischief- about why an mta |
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| 00:07.06 | woonix | You can "dpkg-reconfigure postfix" and set it for local delivery only |
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| 00:07.19 | abrotman | Ace2017_-: FWIW .. i think flash10 is broken withopera |
| 00:07.52 | mischief- | woonix: i suppose i could do that, but are there any other daemons with less overhead? |
| 00:07.55 | themill | Ace2017_-: what does that achieve over using the debian packages for flash? Other than you not getting security updates automatically. |
| 00:07.58 | emilien | Ace2017_-, thanks |
| 00:08.27 | Ace2017_- | themill: it gets you flash |
| 00:08.35 | abrotman | Ace2017_-: so do the DMM repos |
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| 00:09.20 | rgr | My laptop was configured with LUKS some while back, but I'm having trouble deciphering where 37 gigs has vanished to. Can anyone give me some pointers as to what I should look at? Running gparted shows /boot partiion then hda2 which is 37gig and then hda5 which is "unknown". Without opening the laptop how do I check the physical capacity of the HD? |
| 00:09.21 | pl4yer0ne | martian67, if you look at the installation instructions for the card on the dlink website it shows you how to compile just the one module |
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| 00:09.56 | abrotman | though you can also get them from -backports |
| 00:10.09 | Ace2017_- | themill: the version it gave is old |
| 00:10.17 | themill | Ace2017_-: "it"? |
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| 00:10.28 | Ace2017_- | debian multimedia |
| 00:10.50 | LamerC | Hello again. I have a small problem that can't seem to google and don't know if it is right terms (case sensitive thume drive). Before the after the uggrade to Debian 5, the case of files on a FAT usb disk are different. |
| 00:11.03 | abrotman | so now, if emilien doesn't redownload flash every time it gets updated .... it will be old .. yay! |
| 00:11.11 | woonix | mischief-: I haven't researched that. There's a exim4-daemon-light package in the repositories that might be what you are looking for. |
| 00:11.13 | themill | and vulnerable |
| 00:11.24 | abrotman | themill: flash .. forgone conclusion :) |
| 00:11.32 | themill | quite |
| 00:12.01 | LamerC | I mean, if the file/folder is all caps, it shows up as all lowercase instead. 'mkdir /media/disk/A' will create the directory '/media/disk/a' |
| 00:12.23 | Ace2017_- | wonders who would use a flash exploit to target linux systems... |
| 00:12.36 | abrotman | Ace2017_-: uh .. it's cross platform |
| 00:12.40 | KavanS | wonders why the hell you wouldn't... |
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| 00:12.53 | abrotman | gives peterS a kitten |
| 00:13.09 | themill | Ace2017_-: what version do you plan on getting from dmm and what version do you plan to get from adobe? |
| 00:13.15 | KavanS | hell, that'd be the best bet....hit as many platforms as possible, however you'd need to code said exploit to be multiplatform... |
| 00:13.27 | eidolon | hi folks, i have a NETINST based debian etch install that was having problems - i stopped the completeion of the install when it couldn't DHCP onto the net - now i can boot it, i got the network problem fixed, i'd like to complete the netinstall - but not sure what to do to restart it other than booting the netinst debian CD. |
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| 00:14.04 | abrotman | eidolon: you start it from scratch |
| 00:14.06 | eidolon | aptitude update just looks like it's talking to the cdrom |
| 00:14.08 | ryanarchy | I have a directory that is messed up, it has the following perms: -rwxrwxrwx does anyone know how to fix it so it's a directory again? |
| 00:14.10 | stoned | eidolon, so the first install was completed but had dhcp problems and you only have a base system or what? |
| 00:14.17 | eidolon | stoned: yessir. |
| 00:14.19 | abrotman | ryanarchy: fsck your filesystem |
| 00:14.28 | abrotman | eidolon: oh .. man 5 interfaces |
| 00:14.31 | stoned | eidolon, then you have a debian base system that can get on to the network |
| 00:14.33 | stoned | ? |
| 00:14.37 | eidolon | stoned: i do now. |
| 00:14.38 | Ace2017_- | themill: 10,0,15,3 from dmm, 10,0,21,1 |
| 00:14.42 | stoned | eidolon, start installing what you want |
| 00:14.52 | Ace2017_- | themill: 10,0,15,3=dmm, 10,0,21,1=direct |
| 00:14.53 | peterS | thanks, abrotman |
| 00:14.55 | eidolon | dhclient eth0 enabled and dhcp'ed the interface. |
| 00:14.56 | stoned | eidolon, /msg dpkg install gnome, /msg dpkg install kde etc. etc., maybe tasksel |
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| 00:15.02 | themill | Ace2017_-: well the adobe site that you linked to is offering 10.0.15.3 too |
| 00:15.02 | abrotman | peterS: sorry .. out of ponies :) |
| 00:15.09 | peterS | I'll make do |
| 00:15.11 | stoned | eidolon, you're good, just install whatever software you want now |
| 00:15.12 | eidolon | stoned: the sources.list seems to be set only to cdroms. |
| 00:15.15 | stoned | peterS, ! |
| 00:15.16 | eidolon | yes, i know that :) |
| 00:15.22 | stoned | eidolon, /mg dpkg mirrors |
| 00:15.27 | stoned | and /msg dpkg sources.list |
| 00:15.27 | abrotman | /msg too |
| 00:15.30 | peterS | hey stoned. tell nyle I said hi |
| 00:15.31 | stoned | oops sorry |
| 00:15.32 | eidolon | and i know how to manually reconfigure sources.list - i'm just worried it's in a half-installed state |
| 00:15.39 | stoned | peterS, :) long time man, how are you |
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| 00:16.07 | peterS | stoned: good enough, except my server keeps locking up while I'm off at work so I have to hard-boot it when I come home |
| 00:16.20 | Ace2017_- | themill: http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/releasenotes_64bit.html: The alpha refresh build of the 64-bit Flash Player 10 for Linux is version 10.0.d21.1. |
| 00:16.24 | eidolon | ah. sources.list has deb ... security and deb-src... security commented out. |
| 00:16.40 | abrotman | Ace2017_-: but that's not the URL you gave ... |
| 00:16.57 | eidolon | aptitude updates successfully. |
| 00:16.58 | Ace2017_- | abrotman: the url i gave was for 32bit |
| 00:16.59 | stoned | peterS, memtest comes to mind |
| 00:17.13 | LamerC | It preserves the case if it is mixed with upper and lower case, but files whoes letters only are uppercase are represented as lowercase. dmesg says it is mounting it case sensitve. So what is going wrong in it |
| 00:17.15 | abrotman | but that's the one you gave him ... |
| 00:17.23 | themill | Ace2017_-: right, and it's 10.0.15.3 from both dmm and from adobe. Stop making shit up as you go. |
| 00:17.30 | stoned | eidolon, yay! |
| 00:17.39 | peterS | stoned: actually I blame the experimental X server, I keep meaning to roll that back to lenny's |
| 00:17.42 | abrotman | erm ... not the one you gave him |
| 00:17.51 | pl4yer0ne | martian67, starting to look like this card may actualyl be a via rhine 2/3 |
| 00:17.55 | stoned | ahh, you;re the first person to say that peterS |
| 00:18.08 | peterS | stoned: who knows though, this is a Gateway PC, it could be memory or ... anything |
| 00:18.18 | stoned | peterS, I built xorg myself, I always wondered about the stability/quality of experimental xorg |
| 00:18.29 | Ace2017_- | :( |
| 00:18.30 | stoned | peterS, run a memtest anyway |
| 00:18.34 | peterS | I just might |
| 00:18.37 | stoned | just to get the obvious out the way |
| 00:18.58 | abrotman | or just shut down X before you go to work? |
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| 00:19.18 | stoned | and hang on a fucking minute ;) |
| 00:19.28 | stoned | why is xorg on a server, one might ask!? |
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| 00:20.14 | peterS | stoned: 'cause my server is also my primary desktop. I don't have a big or important network here at home, no real need for a lot of separate machines |
| 00:20.21 | stoned | ahhh |
| 00:20.32 | peterS | of course it is a fair question why peterS might need a graphical desktop |
| 00:20.38 | LamerC | NM. The automatic mounting it twice seems to behave weirdly, but manually mounting it as 'pmount -c utf8 /dev/sde1' seems to have worked, a file named 'ABC' shows as 'ABC' and not 'abc' |
| 00:20.42 | themill | peterS: sacrilege! |
| 00:20.46 | stoned | peterS, eh |
| 00:20.46 | peterS | as I've done without one quite happily many times in the past |
| 00:21.19 | sergei1987 | how to run ti-driver-installer-9.2-x86.x86_64.run? |
| 00:21.35 | stoned | sergei1987, don't |
| 00:21.41 | stoned | sergei1987, what is your video hardware? |
| 00:21.50 | sergei1987 | <stoned> , ATI RADEON 2100 |
| 00:22.34 | sergei1987 | ) |
| 00:22.38 | Seb | any apps other than acroread that can edit and save pdfs ? |
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| 00:22.51 | stoned | sergei1987, you want 3d stuffs? you can use fglrx, and you can run it like sh ati-driver-installer-9.2-x86.x86_64.run --help |
| 00:22.58 | abrotman | Seb: edit them how? |
| 00:23.07 | Seb | abrotman: like filling in forms |
| 00:23.12 | abrotman | !fill in pdf form |
| 00:23.14 | abrotman | bah .. |
| 00:23.28 | abrotman | !tell Seb about fill pdf forms |
| 00:23.30 | stoned | sergei1987, I can't remember exactly, but its like --build-pkg debian/lenny or whatever you're on, though I'd imagine lenny would have ati binary drivers in non-free, add non-free and go from there |
| 00:23.35 | stoned | !tell sergei1987 -about fglrx |
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| 00:24.18 | stoned | sergei1987, if you want to use free drivers and still have 3d, you can try *ahem* xorg 7.4, mesa and dri as well as the radeonhd driver |
| 00:24.34 | Seb | abrotman: thanks a lot |
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| 00:24.52 | peterS | yeah if you want your home server to lock up while you're at work |
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| 00:25.17 | stoned | sergei1987, it maybe too complex to build it for you, I'd stick with fglrx from debian and NOT the ati .run file |
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| 00:25.32 | monokrome | Hi. I have a server that was running nginx, but nginx doesn't have proper wsgi support - so I am wondering how I can completely reinstall apache2 (as I had it before nginx) without keeping any configs. I tried `apt-get remove --purge apache2 apache2.2-common apache2-mpm-worker` but that didn't seem to fix the issue when I reinstalled apache. Any ideas? |
| 00:25.35 | stoned | peterS, I use it, but not from experimetnal, I build from git and its fine |
| 00:25.47 | peterS | well, this thing is fine too ... until it isn't (: |
| 00:25.52 | stoned | heh |
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| 00:26.04 | stoned | well thank you confucious ;) |
| 00:26.26 | stoned | just remember, if you haven't gotten to where you're going, you're not there yet. |
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| 00:27.18 | stoned | sergei1987, no response from you yet, how are you doing with the ati driver setup? |
| 00:27.20 | sergei1987 | <stoned>, that file it seems dosent require to build something.. |
| 00:27.48 | stoned | sergei1987, yes, that ati file will build the kernel module fglrx for you, but in a nasty dirty non-debian safe way potentially |
| 00:28.02 | stoned | sergei1987, what you want to do is /msg dpkg fglrx /msg dpkg fglrx one-liner |
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| 00:28.19 | abrotman | bouncy chanserv |
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| 00:28.44 | abrotman | peterS: wait til gravity speaks up and ask him questions til he passes out! |
| 00:28.52 | sergei1987 | <stoned> yeah thanks, i have noticed here about fglrx and ati driver in debian backports :d |
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| 00:29.48 | stoned | sergei1987, if you must use ati binary drivers from thier site, then run it with the --help option, as for how to run it, use `sh filename.run` or chmod a+x filename.run; ./filename.run --help |
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| 00:30.22 | sergei1987 | <stoned> thanks.. i just wanted to test them |
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| 00:30.47 | sergei1987 | the ti-driver-installer-9.2-x86.x86_64.run.. |
| 00:30.51 | sergei1987 | ati* |
| 00:30.55 | stoned | sergei1987, it will give you arguments you need to pass to the installer, like --build-pkg debian/lenny; once the .deb files are generated, dpgk -i *.deb install them, and then use module-assistant auto-install fglrx |
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| 00:33.37 | RayTracer | are there known issues with using tar -b (--blocking-factor) option with large values (eg. 16394) instead of default 20? |
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| 00:35.02 | enouf | what would i need to have (and to setup) to send text messages through the computer, using keyboard, so i don't have to try and fumble with those stupid little mobile phone buttons? |
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| 00:35.28 | peterS | RayTracer: what are you trying to do? why would you want a tarfile to use 8 MB blocks? |
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| 00:35.41 | peterS | RayTracer: also did you mean 16384 instead of 16394? |
| 00:35.53 | RayTracer | yes, 16384 |
| 00:36.00 | pl4yer0ne | enouf, I use wammu to do that |
| 00:36.32 | guerby | hi, anyone familiar with elilo.conf on itanium machines? I'm trying to upgrade from woody to etch (then lenny) and elilo complains "Kernel requires old modprobe, but couldn't run modprobe.modutils: No such file or directory" |
| 00:36.35 | RayTracer | peterS, I'm currently implementing O_DIRECT into gnu tar, and to get sane performance, you need larger block reads |
| 00:36.42 | enouf | pl4yer0ne: is it in debian? |
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| 00:36.48 | pl4yer0ne | yeah dude |
| 00:36.59 | pl4yer0ne | im using testing |
| 00:37.03 | stoned | enouf, I use 811.com |
| 00:37.04 | stoned | :D |
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| 00:37.34 | enouf | pl4yer0ne: i have cable internet and phone - do i need anything else besides wammu? |
| 00:38.02 | pl4yer0ne | you need to connect your phone to the computer to do it |
| 00:38.09 | peterS | RayTracer: well I think your reads and writes have to use the same -b (I don't think it is autodetected from a tar file), but other than that I can't think why it would be problematic. other than producing some rather large blocks of wasted space and I/O at the end of each packed file |
| 00:38.15 | RayTracer | peterS, but I'd like to know if there are compatibility issues with that |
| 00:38.44 | pl4yer0ne | or you can use something like an email -> text message service which i also use |
| 00:38.53 | stoned | hey cool my phone is supported on wammu |
| 00:38.55 | peterS | RayTracer: as far as I know, the 10 kB pad size is assumed by the tar format, so if you use another -b in creating the file you also have to use it in extracting it |
| 00:38.59 | enouf | pl4yer0ne: well, the phone goes through the modem .. |
| 00:39.01 | peterS | RayTracer: but that sort of thing should be easy to test |
| 00:39.05 | stoned | enouf, how do you hook up the cellphone to the computer? |
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| 00:39.16 | enouf | stoned: that's what i want to know |
| 00:39.16 | stoned | never done it before |
| 00:39.27 | stoned | heh, i imagine you'd need a bluetooth or a cable of soem sort |
| 00:39.40 | pl4yer0ne | yeah normally a data cable |
| 00:39.58 | pl4yer0ne | like mine is just a USB -> phone adapter thingy |
| 00:40.13 | stoned | if you have a bluetooth module in the system you can just use that to talk to the phone can't you? |
| 00:40.17 | enouf | stoned: well - the thing is, so long as you have the number to dial, and the protocol is text, shouldn't need the phone, except tp receive |
| 00:40.26 | LamerC | i found what it is, debian 5 sets mount option shortname=lower apparently. I checked mount/pmount man pages but don't see any reference to configuration files. Is there a way to disable the shortname=lower option? |
| 00:40.45 | enouf | stoned: the whole point is - see what i first asked :-) |
| 00:40.47 | stoned | enouf, you are talking about using an SMS gateway or your own phone but type the messages on the computer and send it through your phone? |
| 00:40.58 | enouf | ... |
| 00:41.09 | pl4yer0ne | enouf, yeah but you also need to be using the mobile phone network to send |
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| 00:41.21 | pl4yer0ne | its not the same as the internet |
| 00:41.23 | enouf | i just don't want to fumble with cell phone buttons! |
| 00:41.31 | stoned | spoken like a true sheeple! |
| 00:41.32 | stoned | stop that. |
| 00:41.34 | stoned | :D |
| 00:41.36 | pl4yer0ne | yeah but its not magic is it! |
| 00:41.44 | enouf | the keyboard is bad enough |
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| 00:41.57 | RayTracer | peterS, I could extract a DIO created archive with standard gnu tar without problems |
| 00:42.19 | peterS | RayTracer: perhaps I'm mistaken then and the block size _is_ specified in the tar file |
| 00:42.23 | stoned | how about you use a "PHONE" short for "TELEPHONE" to do what it was invented for, aural communication... you want to send text messages, use email! |
| 00:42.33 | stoned | I hate texting its irritating! |
| 00:42.39 | peterS | RayTracer: I presume you aren't using tar for actual tapes, right? |
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| 00:44.13 | RayTracer | peterS, the larger blocksize tars are bigger, though, the padding you mentioned. I'm using tar also on real tapes (with amanda), but for my testings I'm using disk |
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| 00:45.12 | peterS | RayTracer: I hope you don't use -b 16384 for tarfiles that have hundreds of little files in them. I think that padding applies to each internal file, not just the tarball as a whole |
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| 00:45.19 | RayTracer | peterS, the rationale behind the whole thing is to avoid cache thrashing during backups |
| 00:45.43 | RayTracer | peterS, that wouldn't be good... ;-( |
| 00:46.17 | peterS | RayTracer: I think what you want, if you really need to implement O_DIRECT, would be to also implement your own buffer, and _separately_ specify I/O size |
| 00:46.53 | RayTracer | d'oh. it was hard enough for me to come this far... :) |
| 00:47.17 | peterS | RayTracer: well, you're using -b essentially to control I/O size - I think you probably need to do those things separately |
| 00:47.55 | peterS | RayTracer: ...or use 'buffer' or 'dd' as your buffering program. putting dd in a pipeline is a pretty simple way to control output block size. I'm not sure offhand whether it can do direct I/O |
| 00:48.35 | RayTracer | yes it can in newer versions, [io]flag=direct |
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| 00:49.34 | peterS | so like, maybe dd conv=whatever obs= or possibly dd bs= is all you really need |
| 00:49.51 | RayTracer | but I can't use it that way, tar is building the file list and reading them itself; this is not only for the archive but also for the files read/written |
| 00:50.09 | peterS | (err sorry oflag= not conv= but you knew that) |
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| 00:55.00 | emilien | having sound problems , no sound at all , debian lenny |
| 00:55.17 | RayTracer | peterS, I'm glad to find that the padding is only done at the end of the archive |
| 00:55.35 | peterS | RayTracer: hmmm, ok. I thought each 'internal' file was padded to 10 kB too. |
| 00:56.13 | peterS | of course if you use tar.gz or a tape drive that compresses its input, it comes out about the same - a couple MB of zeroes won't take up any noticeable space (: |
| 00:56.27 | RayTracer | yes :) |
| 00:56.43 | sylarr | does mdadm destroy the content of a partition that I make a raid of? |
| 00:56.56 | peterS | and I guess most tape drives do compress their input, even though data compression on the host side has been pretty standard for a rather long time |
| 00:57.01 | sylarr | if I want to turn an existing partition to raid1? |
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| 00:57.48 | peterS | sylarr: a raid partition uses a kilobyte or two that it has to overwrite. in some formats this is at the end of the block (so it won't destroy much of your data), in other formats it is at the beginning. |
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| 00:58.23 | peterS | sylarr: but even if you pick a raid format where the superblock is at the end, and even if you don't have any data stored there, you would need to resize your filesystem down to its new size so it won't try to overwrite that later. |
| 00:59.03 | sylarr | sound like a risk, which is counter productive in this case |
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| 00:59.39 | RickyWh | what is the best way to manage packages in debian lenny? |
| 00:59.40 | peterS | it may work out, but yeah you have to pay attention and know what you're doing |
| 00:59.47 | RickyWh | for a webserver VPS |
| 01:00.08 | chomwitt1 | hi. in lenny mu network gnome manager doesnt see my wifi interface which i see from iwconfig. |
| 01:00.13 | sylarr | would have been been better if mdadm could have saved the metadata in a separate place |
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| 01:01.01 | peterS | sylarr: but if the metadata isn't in the partition itself, it is easy for the two to be out of sync with each other, or for a tool to not be able to find them both at once |
| 01:01.25 | peterS | this is the problem that ancient Linux RAID arrays had, actually. the version back before "raid 0.90" |
| 01:01.34 | Dewi | RickyWh: aptitude. Or in gnome, synaptic |
| 01:01.53 | Dewi | s |
| 01:02.08 | sylarr | peterS, I think you mean if the metadata doesn't exist |
| 01:02.17 | RickyWh | ok i'll check it out |
| 01:02.34 | sylarr | peterS, I mean that the metadata exist but on another special partition |
| 01:02.59 | peterS | sylarr: oh, ugh, I don't want to have 'another special partition' on each disk that I do RAID on |
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| 01:03.23 | RickyWh | aptitude is apt-get ? |
| 01:03.46 | sylarr | peterS, well, I do, since I have a single disk that is about to fail |
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| 01:04.01 | peterS | no, aptitude is a tool much more sophisticated than apt-get. It uses apt, and Debian format repositories. |
| 01:04.23 | sylarr | peterS, I guess I will have to plan a down time |
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| 01:04.44 | peterS | yeah - good luck, it's not much fun to have a drive that you think is about to fail |
| 01:05.07 | sylarr | ahhhhhhh, yes :( |
| 01:05.08 | VieQ | hello, just came in to say thanks |
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| 01:07.53 | sylarr | anyone knows about the bootcd package? |
| 01:07.58 | sylarr | what does it do? |
| 01:08.36 | sylarr | does it make a copy of my system on a CD? |
| 01:08.39 | enouf | it's to create a livecd from your current install sylarr |
| 01:08.59 | sylarr | is it good to make for fsck? |
| 01:09.13 | enouf | huh? |
| 01:09.24 | sylarr | ie to check the filesystem while it is not mounted? |
| 01:09.35 | enouf | any livecd can do that |
| 01:10.10 | sylarr | enouf, yea, but I made some mdadm devices |
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| 01:10.25 | enouf | you can also have the system reboot into a fsck on / as you boot |
| 01:10.27 | sylarr | enouf, I am not sure if any live cd have mdadm and lvm |
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| 01:10.38 | enouf | some do, sure |
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| 01:10.59 | sylarr | how do I reboot to an fsck? |
| 01:11.52 | enouf | 'touch /forcefsck' and reboot normally - but ensure /etc/fstab '/' line has a 1 for last field and all others are 0 or 2 |
| 01:12.12 | sylarr | ok |
| 01:12.14 | enouf | man fstab |
| 01:12.27 | pl4yer0ne | enouf, cool i did not know that |
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| 01:12.34 | enouf | also 'shutdown -rF now' but .. man shutdown |
| 01:13.12 | enouf | sylarr: you do have backups, right? |
| 01:13.25 | sylarr | say, I copied / to a raid5 today |
| 01:13.31 | sylarr | but this was a live copy |
| 01:13.39 | pl4yer0ne | ahh good old fsck on boot. takes a while on the 4TB array =\ |
| 01:13.46 | sylarr | and I don't have LVM on this partition |
| 01:13.53 | sylarr | so it may be incomplete |
| 01:13.56 | martian67 | pl4yer0ne, it gets a load error on 8139too |
| 01:13.57 | martian67 | :( |
| 01:14.01 | enouf | pl4yer0ne: not sure how well the settiing FSCK= in /etc/default/rcS is apropos these days |
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| 01:14.27 | pl4yer0ne | martian67, did you see the stuff I said about it maybe being a via-rhine device? |
| 01:14.31 | RickyWh | why does the wiki for aptitude show a table that says it uses the apt-get, cache, etc etc? like whats the point of using aptitude instead of just running the commands urself? |
| 01:14.36 | martian67 | oh nm |
| 01:14.38 | sylarr | enouf, is there a way to make a reliable backup without LVM? |
| 01:14.39 | martian67 | *no |
| 01:14.40 | martian67 | ill try that |
| 01:14.55 | pl4yer0ne | the windows driver you said it uses seem to relate to via rhine 3 device |
| 01:15.16 | pl4yer0ne | but I would just get a new NIC |
| 01:15.18 | enouf | sylarr: well .. |
| 01:15.28 | martian67 | pl4yer0ne, not an option unfortunaely |
| 01:15.35 | pl4yer0ne | ghetto nics can screw you later |
| 01:16.06 | pl4yer0ne | swap it for one that works froma windows system where you have the driver? |
| 01:16.10 | CaT[t3] | RickyWh: aptitude has a 'nice' ncurses interface and a few command line options apt doesn't. that said, my personal preference is for apt-get. |
| 01:16.11 | jimmio | Hello all... I just recently installed Debian. First time using it (I used Ubuntu many many times). I downloaded an application in the .deb install format and it did nothing except open in the package manager... |
| 01:16.12 | enouf | NICs are ~5 $ these days :-P |
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| 01:16.19 | martian67 | it came with a disk |
| 01:16.25 | martian67 | enouf, not everywhere |
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| 01:16.39 | pl4yer0ne | jimmio, thats because you double clicked it - not installed it |
| 01:16.46 | RickyWh | CaT[t3], ok cool thx |
| 01:16.50 | enouf | they're even cheaper at the dumpster or the curb |
| 01:17.02 | jimmio | pl4yer0ne: The default program isn't dpkg why..? |
| 01:17.12 | martian67 | again not an option |
| 01:17.17 | pl4yer0ne | yeah but enouf what mad tight arse would do that seeing as they are $5 |
| 01:17.36 | sylarr | jimmio, dpkg -i file.deb |
| 01:17.45 | pl4yer0ne | jimmio, because they are just archives, sometimes you dont want to install something you want to see inside it. |
| 01:17.47 | martian67 | pl4yer0ne, where did you see this page on dlink? |
| 01:18.02 | pl4yer0ne | martian67, was on the aussie dlink site under support |
| 01:18.09 | emilien | i have a sound problem ran alsaconf -L , i get /usr/sbin/alsa/ line 72 : segmentation fault sleep 1 |
| 01:18.12 | jimmio | sylarr: I know. It installed it but didn't bother marking the dependencies for install so it's a broken package x.x |
| 01:18.24 | pl4yer0ne | but the stuff about the rhine device came from googling the windows driver |
| 01:18.41 | emilien | how can i reinstall sleep ? |
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| 01:19.04 | pl4yer0ne | emilien, lie down somewhere quiet and close your eyes =D |
| 01:20.03 | martian67 | pl4yer0ne, Uses Realtek 8139 chipset |
| 01:20.13 | martian67 | according to dlink page |
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| 01:20.22 | Dawgmatix | what is the default sound manager in lenny ? |
| 01:20.22 | martian67 | but the driver wont load >:I |
| 01:20.26 | emilien | pl4yer0ne, heh , might just do that it |
| 01:20.35 | pl4yer0ne | yeah but it refers to a different device the 530 not the 538 |
| 01:20.37 | Dawgmatix | i am trying to get sound in flash to work on a lenny amd64 box |
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| 01:21.01 | simonrvn | sound manager? |
| 01:21.09 | pl4yer0ne | (or whatever the devices are called) |
| 01:21.28 | Dawgmatix | uhmm like pulseaudio / alsa ? (i am not too sure myself) |
| 01:21.47 | simonrvn | 2 different things |
| 01:22.14 | martian67 | this is on the 538tx's page |
| 01:22.17 | pl4yer0ne | Dawgmatix, there is a plugin i think for getting sound with flash and pulseaudio |
| 01:22.17 | chomwitt1 | i'm the only one who thinks thats there is sth very messy with having networkmanager and networkadmin for the same task messing each other.. |
| 01:22.22 | chomwitt1 | ? |
| 01:22.34 | Dawgmatix | player - thats only available for i386 |
| 01:22.54 | pl4yer0ne | 64bit = lose |
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| 01:23.00 | pl4yer0ne | AFAIK |
| 01:23.04 | simonrvn | pa is a sound daemon, plus some stuff to go with it, and alsa is the actual kernel sub-system that has to do with your sound device(s) |
| 01:23.13 | Dawgmatix | i see |
| 01:23.35 | Dawgmatix | i just checked in synaptic - none of the pulseaudio packages seem to be installed |
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| 01:24.30 | simonrvn | pa and jack are ones i'd recommend. you don't need them, they're handy sometimes. |
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| 01:24.43 | simonrvn | alsa manages fine on its own ;) |
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| 01:24.52 | jwrt | hmm, can i send to channel yet? |
| 01:24.58 | rgr | Dawgmatix: I found 64 bit Ubuntu and Debian to be pretty much a nightmare with anything audio or "flash". I moved back to i686 versions. |
| 01:24.59 | jwrt | supposes so |
| 01:25.17 | jwrt | evening. my network is setup and works fine, then i log into gnome and the network-manager-thingy automagically fucks it all up. how do i stop that? [aside from removing gnome and all its parts] |
| 01:25.19 | simonrvn | jwrt: nope |
| 01:25.25 | Dawgmatix | ahh have to live without sound then :) |
| 01:25.33 | Dawgmatix | going back to 32 bits is not an option |
| 01:25.43 | QWonder | hello, when i start up gnome I get "The panel encountered a problemw hile loading" for, I believe, every panel. also, nautilus will not work at all. this is a clean install of debian lenny, i've done a clean install twice and have exactly the same problems. |
| 01:25.47 | simonrvn | Dawgmatix: you have alsamixer there? unmute stuff |
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| 01:26.16 | rgr | simonrvn: there is no "unmute flash" check .... |
| 01:26.22 | Dawgmatix | :D |
| 01:26.30 | Dawgmatix | indeed |
| 01:26.31 | simonrvn | who the hell is talking about flash |
| 01:26.38 | simonrvn | i'm not |
| 01:26.40 | rgr | err the poster you are replying to. |
| 01:26.43 | Dawgmatix | err me :) |
| 01:26.50 | Dawgmatix | I have sound working otherwise :) |
| 01:26.53 | pl4yer0ne | good effort simonrvn |
| 01:27.00 | rgr | simonrvn: so, in your own time ... |
| 01:27.02 | simonrvn | that's what happens when you come in the middle of a convo ;) |
| 01:27.08 | rgr | :-) NP. |
| 01:27.27 | simonrvn | hehehe |
| 01:27.58 | simonrvn | flash64beta no worky for you? |
| 01:28.33 | simonrvn | Dawgmatix: ^^^ |
| 01:28.35 | Dawgmatix | nope |
| 01:28.38 | simonrvn | :/ |
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| 01:28.49 | Dawgmatix | the video works fine, but the sound doesnt |
| 01:28.59 | simonrvn | it's good your sound works though :) |
| 01:29.11 | Dawgmatix | i dont know if flash logs errors somewhere |
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| 01:29.39 | simonrvn | you'd have to go see in ~/.macromedia or whatever |
| 01:29.46 | simonrvn | i don't know |
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| 01:31.29 | p0ne_lunch | mmmm thai, latar beetches |
| 01:31.53 | simonrvn | and maybe clean out ~/.macromedia/Flash_Player/macromedia.com/support/flashplayer/sys ;) |
| 01:31.59 | enouf | so, the discussion denegrates to flash issues ... like a windows forum |
| 01:32.09 | jwrt | fuck flash. |
| 01:32.13 | Dawgmatix | :) |
| 01:32.14 | p0ne_lunch | fuck windows |
| 01:32.28 | enouf | users suck ass |
| 01:32.28 | Dawgmatix | i dont know why they just open the source for the goddamned player |
| 01:32.37 | Dawgmatix | its not like theyve not patented the hell out of it |
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| 01:33.05 | jwrt | Dawgmatix: because then they lose a monopoly |
| 01:33.15 | simonrvn | it's open spec... |
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| 01:33.24 | gnome_ | hey... |
| 01:33.29 | gnome_ | i forgot how to compile modules in linux |
| 01:33.33 | Dawgmatix | why woudlnt they want their content to play everywhere |
| 01:33.35 | gnome_ | i know the dir is /usr/src/linux |
| 01:33.41 | gnome_ | what is the command to get the ncurses UI |
| 01:33.45 | Dawgmatix | module-assistant a-i ? |
| 01:33.50 | abrotman | gnome_: make menuconfig ? |
| 01:33.53 | gnome_ | thx |
| 01:34.00 | gnome_ | haven't ran linux in years. |
| 01:34.15 | gnome_ | and after i compile the module how do i load it again? |
| 01:34.46 | simonrvn | Dawgmatix: because macromedia *cough* adobe suck ass ;p |
| 01:35.01 | Wyzard | gnome_: Are you looking to compile a whole custom kernel, or a third-party module that's not part of the normal kernel? |
| 01:35.01 | Dawgmatix | sounds about right :) |
| 01:35.29 | gnome_ | im trying to get a module loaded for my wireless card |
| 01:35.37 | gnome_ | its a broadcom bcm4328 |
| 01:35.46 | jwrt | simonrvn: bullshit |
| 01:35.48 | Dawgmatix | one of my paranoidal theories is - that if people saw the flash code - they wouldnt allow it to be installed on corporate networks |
| 01:35.53 | jwrt | simonrvn: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Flash#Specifications |
| 01:36.12 | adb | !b43 |
| 01:36.12 | dpkg | from memory, b43 is the new driver for modern Broadcom 802.11g wireless chipsets (http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43), included in Linux since 2.6.24. Use <b43-fwcutter> to extract version 4 firmware for this driver. USB devices are not supported (for 4320, see <rndis_wlan>). 802.11b-only devices and BCM4306 rev 2 are instead supported by the <b43legacy> driver. http://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx |
| 01:36.19 | jwrt | "forbids the use of the specifications to create programs that can be used for playback of Flash files" |
| 01:36.26 | adb | gnome_: ^^ |
| 01:36.33 | simonrvn | jwrt: swf is |
| 01:36.45 | enouf | http://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx |
| 01:36.49 | abrotman | jwrt: did you read the rest of the paragraph ? |
| 01:36.55 | enouf | oh, late |
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| 01:37.00 | abrotman | the may 2008 paragraph ? |
| 01:37.23 | simonrvn | jwrt: meh, not completely it seems |
| 01:37.30 | jwrt | abrotman: sure, "The specification remains incomplete" |
| 01:37.33 | enouf | flash is a fucken activeX object |
| 01:37.43 | enouf | well, SWF is |
| 01:38.01 | abrotman | jwrt: so the flash3 is totally open and the current one is mostly open . if it's good enough for java, good enough for flash! |
| 01:38.09 | gnome_ | how do i load a module manually again |
| 01:38.11 | gnome_ | what is the command? |
| 01:38.17 | abrotman | modprobe |
| 01:38.19 | enouf | modprobe |
| 01:38.27 | gnome_ | thx |
| 01:38.44 | jwrt | i will be happy when i can experience the full functionality of websites without the need for non-free crud |
| 01:38.56 | eeg3 | heh |
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| 01:39.09 | enouf | ever look at a CWS binary blob? |
| 01:39.10 | simonrvn | jwrt: that's always optimal |
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| 01:39.20 | eeg3 | darn those nonfree packages ): |
| 01:39.28 | Dawgmatix | jwrt - i will be happy when the said technology is used by people making content |
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| 01:43.52 | jpinx | why are some commands in /usr/bin and some in /usr/sbin? and where is the "cat" command? I want to add it to nopassword in sudoers. |
| 01:44.19 | icedtea | cat is probably in /bin |
| 01:44.21 | enouf | heh java; the other abomination |
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| 01:44.28 | jwrt | `whereis cat` |
| 01:44.29 | dondelelcaro | jpinx: which cat; is your friend |
| 01:44.36 | icedtea | pets his cat |
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| 01:44.44 | jwrt | pets icedtea's cat, too |
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| 01:45.31 | dondelelcaro | jpinx: see the FHS for the full description of /{usr/,}{s,}bin descrimination, but the basic jist is that sbin is for commands used by the super user, and /{s,}bin is for commands needed early on in boot |
| 01:45.40 | enouf | jwrt: you don't need, nor want the backticks, unless you're feeding the output to some other app as input |
| 01:45.52 | jpinx | thanks - it's in /bin - which make 3 places for commands to lurk. Any ideas why? |
| 01:46.08 | dondelelcaro | jpinx: because cat is needed early on in boot, and is used by all users |
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| 01:46.16 | jwrt | enouf: certainly, but it's a bit ambigious as to whether that's me asking his question back to him, or a command |
| 01:46.21 | jpinx | dondelelcaro: thanks for those words |
| 01:46.27 | beardy | You "never" want backticks, if you are using bash. |
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| 01:46.34 | enouf | jwrt: sure |
| 01:46.52 | enouf | oh, a $() promoter? :-P |
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| 01:46.59 | beardy | enouf: man bash |
| 01:47.08 | jwrt | feminist, too |
| 01:47.10 | enouf | messes up beardy 's nest |
| 01:47.11 | beardy | enouf: Deprecated. |
| 01:47.19 | beardy | enouf: And yes, I agree. |
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| 01:47.36 | dondelelcaro | jpinx: commands can exist anywhere in PATH (which can be set to pretty much anything), which is why you use which (or whereis) to figure out where a command is. |
| 01:48.05 | dondelelcaro | (they can also be builtins) |
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| 01:48.25 | beardy | jpinx: Which you found using apropos, for what it is you are looking for. |
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| 01:48.55 | enouf | jpinx: as mentioned, it's also not uncommon the have a ~/bin where you might have binaries - and which is in your PATH |
| 01:49.04 | jpinx | dondelelcaro: thanks - I just ls'ted the various dir's where I thought the commands might be |
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| 01:50.57 | chipbk10 | Why I can't operate "scp" |
| 01:51.11 | abrotman | you didn't read the man page? |
| 01:51.14 | chipbk10 | scp file hieuld@192.168.15.71: |
| 01:51.23 | abrotman | tries that IP |
| 01:51.26 | enouf | dondelelcaro: is " /{usr/,}{s,}" actually valid syntax? man that's confusing if it is :-) |
| 01:51.37 | chipbk10 | it tells that "Read only file system" |
| 01:51.41 | chipbk10 | why is that? |
| 01:51.42 | enouf | er i mean; " /{usr/,}{s,}bin" |
| 01:51.49 | karsten | abrotman: Wait! That's on *my* network. |
| 01:52.27 | Ejdesgaard | i can't get java working in iceweasel... |
| 01:52.33 | karsten | jpinx: ... or aliases, or shell functions. |
| 01:52.43 | enouf | dondelelcaro: i guess so; ~$ ls -ld /{usr/,}{s,}bin works |
| 01:52.54 | jpinx | chipbk10: permissions or you need sudo - or both;) |
| 01:53.19 | karsten | chipbk10: Your user doesn't have a home dir on that host? Are you writing to root? |
| 01:53.42 | chipbk10 | ya |
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| 01:53.54 | chipbk10 | it used to be normal |
| 01:54.10 | chipbk10 | only today, that problem occurs |
| 01:54.23 | Hoxzer | :/ Getty's are not spawning at startup but "getty 38400 tty1" is working just fine. WHere should I look for errors ?+ |
| 01:55.41 | karsten | chipbkchiAnother poossibility is that you have only one partition, it's mounted errors=remount-ro, and you've had filesystem errors. |
| 01:55.43 | dondelelcaro | enouf: that's just a glob, actually |
| 01:55.49 | karsten | chipbk10: ^^ |
| 01:56.15 | dondelelcaro | Hoxzer: your inittab |
| 01:56.19 | karsten | Hoxzer: init should be conmplaining to syslog |
| 01:57.33 | monkey_d_luffy | How can I get some info from my HDDs? Like manufacturer, firmware version, etc. |
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| 01:58.06 | abrotman | !tell monkey_d_luffy about whats my hardware |
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| 01:58.48 | monkey_d_luffy | thanks abrotman :) |
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| 02:00.31 | Goat25 | i just installed package ntp from aptitude and bingo my clock was synced |
| 02:00.38 | Goat25 | this debian thing is amazing sometimes |
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| 02:01.08 | icedtea | I read that as "I just installed package ntp from aptitude and bingo my cock was synced" |
| 02:01.35 | Goat25 | sick mind :) |
| 02:02.22 | QWonder | can someone help me with this? also, nautilus doesn't work: http://pastebin.com/f621cdc96 |
| 02:02.36 | kindofabuzz | hey hey. i just started using Debian, and wow is all i can say. I wanted to "graduate" from ubuntu so I moved to Debian. Question, will using .debs made for ubuntu be ok? as in from getdeb.net? |
| 02:03.10 | abrotman | kindofabuzz: no |
| 02:03.25 | kindofabuzz | hmm ok |
| 02:03.28 | kindofabuzz | dang |
| 02:03.28 | abrotman | you can try, but if you break stuff (very likely), you won't get much help |
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| 02:03.36 | TCW | hi folks |
| 02:03.44 | kindofabuzz | is there any sites like that but for Debian? |
| 02:03.46 | infernixx | is selinux used a lot on debian boxes? |
| 02:03.52 | abrotman | kindofabuzz: what isn't in debian that you want? |
| 02:04.12 | kindofabuzz | abrotman, well i wanted to "upgrade" a few things |
| 02:04.22 | abrotman | such as? |
| 02:04.22 | kindofabuzz | like pidgin |
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| 02:04.35 | abrotman | judd: versions pidgin |
| 02:04.36 | judd | abrotman: pidgin -- etch-backports: 2.4.3-4~bpo40+1 lenny: 2.4.3-4 squeeze: 2.4.3-4 sid: 2.5.4-2 |
| 02:04.47 | abrotman | it's pretty new ... what could you want from 2.5.x ? |
| 02:04.50 | enouf | infernixx: i hardly ever hear it discussed on irc ... so .. |
| 02:05.06 | enouf | s/hear/see |
| 02:05.23 | abrotman | enouf: you need a speak-n-spell |
| 02:05.24 | infernixx | im attempting to use it |
| 02:05.27 | kindofabuzz | abrotman, so it's not good to upgrade stuff in Debian, i need to stick with what came with the distro? |
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| 02:05.32 | infernixx | its tough shit |
| 02:05.49 | infernixx | there's some gooey tools for fedora, setroubleshoot is in sid but the other tools arent |
| 02:05.50 | abrotman | kindofabuzz: if you're patient .. a backport may appear .. keep an eye on backports.org or packages.debian.org/pidgin |
| 02:06.11 | TCW | I usually use fairly old (but well supported) hardware with linux desktops, now I am asked tu built a new computer for a friend. Of course I want him to use Linux ;) so I need hardware that works well with recent kernels... for what should I go in general, AMD/nforce or Intel? |
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| 02:06.20 | kindofabuzz | abrotman, do i need to add that to sources? |
| 02:06.34 | enouf | infernixx: that's good - note atleast; http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.26/security/selinux/Kconfig |
| 02:06.35 | dondelelcaro | TCW: most common new hardware supports linux just fine, so it really doesn't matter |
| 02:06.46 | abrotman | kindofabuzz: not til you need it .. backports.org has instructions .. packages.debian.org/pidgin will just show you all the versions currently somewhere in debian |
| 02:06.59 | kindofabuzz | k thanks buddie |
| 02:07.04 | TCW | dondelelcaro, nice to hear |
| 02:07.10 | infernixx | enouf: lenny stock kernel has selinux support |
| 02:07.12 | QWonder | can't you just compile the latest version? |
| 02:07.14 | abrotman | kindofabuzz: you are using lenny right ? |
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| 02:07.25 | kindofabuzz | abrotman, yeah |
| 02:07.27 | abrotman | QWonder: not always that easy .. exspecially with something like pidgin |
| 02:07.31 | QWonder | does debian come with some sort of developers package? |
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| 02:07.32 | enouf | infernixx: that's not why i posted that .. but whatever |
| 02:07.47 | dondelelcaro | QWonder: it comes with everything that you'd need to build everything in Debian |
| 02:07.52 | abrotman | QWonder: like IW/FF3 in etch wasn't very much fun because of the gtk requirements |
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| 02:08.01 | infernixx | enouf: sorry, missing your point? late here :) |
| 02:08.15 | jwrt | TCW: be suspicious of things like builtin bluetooth, wireless, etc....but standard things like cpu, ram, sata, not much need to worry about |
| 02:08.47 | enouf | infernixx: nothing much, just how the various params interact - allow/disallow usage of a kernel boot param to enable/disable |
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| 02:09.10 | infernixx | enouf: yeah, thats handled quite nicely with debian actually |
| 02:09.28 | enouf | (should one lock themselves out .. ) that sort of thing |
| 02:09.37 | QWonder | hmm |
| 02:09.39 | infernixx | you just selinux-activate, then it'll set it to permissive; once its all good, selinux-config-enforcing and pray :P |
| 02:09.55 | QWonder | i tried out openSUSE but it's loaded full of so much crap. i don't need four text editors and two cd burning apps |
| 02:10.16 | QWonder | but i want a full range of dev libraries so i can compile whatever i need without running into to many problems |
| 02:12.02 | kindofabuzz | abrotman, for the auto backpots it say use /etc/apt/preferences, just create it? |
| 02:12.12 | abrotman | yep |
| 02:12.17 | kindofabuzz | right on |
| 02:12.23 | kindofabuzz | =) |
| 02:12.29 | abrotman | kindofabuzz: that doesn't have a backport for pidgin yet |
| 02:12.30 | infernixx | heh, setroubleshoot is quite rough in sid |
| 02:12.53 | kindofabuzz | abrotman, yeah no worries |
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| 02:13.49 | kindofabuzz | abrotman, so basically with Debian I should stick with what is in the release and backports, don't ever upgrade a package? |
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| 02:14.17 | infernixx | scratch that. setroubleshoot looks like it got uploaded 5 minutes ago >.< |
| 02:14.23 | abrotman | kindofabuzz: i'm not saying that .. but unless you have a pretty good reason, that's probably a decent approach |
| 02:14.41 | kindofabuzz | abrotman, just for stability reasons? |
| 02:14.56 | abrotman | kindofabuzz: and sanity :) |
| 02:14.59 | kindofabuzz | hehe |
| 02:15.48 | kindofabuzz | i'm really liking Debian so far, like I said, i just came from Ubuntu, buty i think i'm expierenced enough now for something different(better) =) |
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| 02:16.18 | abrotman | kindofabuzz: as you get used to debian and how to solve your own problems, you might want to then try to go to 'testing' (currently 'squeeze') |
| 02:16.26 | kindofabuzz | cool |
| 02:16.29 | pyrohotdog | Is there a way to upgrade from Lenny testing to the stable release? |
| 02:16.40 | kindofabuzz | dist-upgrade? |
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| 02:16.51 | memnon | Does anyone here use smartmontools on a machine that is not turned on 24/7? I want to use it on my laptop, but I am not sure I did it right ... |
| 02:16.52 | dondelelcaro | pyrohotdog: just make sure your sources.list point at lenny, and upgrade as usual |
| 02:16.55 | pyrohotdog | kindofabuzz: says no upgrade available? |
| 02:16.59 | QWonder | alright, this clean install of lenny on my iMac G3 is giving me tons of problems with gnome applets and nautilus won't work. anyone else having these problems or have a working install on a G3? |
| 02:17.44 | abrotman | QWonder: how did you install xorg and gnome? |
| 02:18.02 | kindofabuzz | be back later, about to clone this Debian install and overwrite my ubuntu install with it =) |
| 02:18.18 | QWonder | i didn't install them on my own or anything, they just installed with lenny |
| 02:18.23 | QWonder | i did a clean install twice |
| 02:18.30 | QWonder | having the same problems both times |
| 02:18.48 | QWonder | with the default packages selected |
| 02:19.12 | pyrohotdog | dondelecar: they all say lenny, but how do I make sure they're stable..? |
| 02:19.30 | dondelelcaro | pyrohotdog: if it says lenny, then you're now running stable |
| 02:19.49 | dondelelcaro | pyrohotdog: assuming you've run aptitude update; aptitude full-upgrade; or similar recently |
| 02:20.12 | QWonder | i did let it download the latest packages during the install, i believe. maybe i should just unplug my ethernet until it's installed and working? |
| 02:21.01 | pyrohotdog | dondelecar: Thank you, good to know. Guess I'm up to date then. |
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| 02:22.33 | pyrohotdog | Next question, I removed...Ekiga I believe, and since then every time I use apt-get it says a whole grip of packages I want/need; gnome-core, gnome-screensaver, etc will be removed...? |
| 02:22.42 | memnon | anyone using smartmontools= smartctl and smartd? |
| 02:25.09 | memnon | okay, will ask in usenet... |
| 02:25.34 | dondelelcaro | pyrohotdog: that's because ekiga is part of gnome |
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| 02:25.47 | NuryFV | hello |
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| 02:26.06 | dondelelcaro | pyrohotdog: so removing ekiga removes the gnome meta package, thus making everything installed by the gnome metapackage no longer depended on by a manually installed package |
| 02:26.09 | NuryFV | i have a problem installing debian lenny, somebody can help me |
| 02:26.16 | dondelelcaro | !tell NuryFV -about ask |
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| 02:26.35 | dondelelcaro | pyrohotdog: you can fix this by using aptitude or similar to mark all of the dependencies of gnome that you actually want installed as manually installed |
| 02:27.19 | pyrohotdog | dondelecaro: How do I go about that? I'm not particularly familiar with aptitude. |
| 02:28.12 | NuryFV | well |
| 02:28.56 | infernixx | so besides selinux, anyone tried grsecurity patches? |
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| 02:29.04 | NuryFV | i m installing debian lenny from a dvd, but when is checking the cdrom, tells that have a mistake and dont continue |
| 02:29.10 | NuryFV | what can i do |
| 02:30.05 | stoned | NuryFV, what miskate? |
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| 02:30.35 | stoned | NuryFV, by mistake you mean an error message of course, what does it say? |
| 02:30.39 | enouf | NuryFV: what is your motherboard chipset? how about your cdrom controller, is it sata? |
| 02:30.48 | NuryFV | that can upload a component from the cdroom |
| 02:30.50 | frankS2 | how can i find the UUUID for a specific disk i have too many in /dev/disk/ hehe |
| 02:30.52 | NuryFV | and dont continue |
| 02:30.59 | stoned | yeh can't find cdrom |
| 02:31.51 | NuryFV | what can i do |
| 02:31.54 | enouf | frankS2: FSs/partitions have uuids, not disks, unless you mean raids/lvms, which are different uuids |
| 02:32.02 | enouf | frankS2: use blkid |
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| 02:32.38 | guysoft42 | hey all, i am in trobble, i have a system here that says: dpkg-deb (subprocess): failed to exec tar: Permission denied |
| 02:32.46 | guysoft42 | what can i do? |
| 02:33.04 | enouf | instal fakeroot? |
| 02:33.36 | adb | run it as root ? |
| 02:33.52 | frankS2 | enouf: ah i ment FS yes, im sry. running bulkid now nothing appears? |
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| 02:34.29 | pl4yer0ne | mmmm that was good |
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| 02:35.43 | crhomber | are there any sparc64 users here? |
| 02:35.45 | enouf | try running the command i typed |
| 02:36.00 | adb | frankS2: blkid not bulkid , as root |
| 02:36.07 | abrotman | guysoft42: is / full ? |
| 02:36.16 | crhomber | who was able to install Lenny on a SUN Blade 100? |
| 02:36.24 | enouf | cat /etc/blkid.tab too if you like to see funky format |
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| 02:36.30 | frankS2 | adb: that was what i ment, blkid, no output |
| 02:36.39 | enouf | must be lvm or something |
| 02:36.48 | frankS2 | its a USB stick |
| 02:36.50 | enouf | cat /proc/partitions |
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| 02:37.02 | enouf | what FS? fat? |
| 02:37.04 | guysoft42 | abrotman, no, i did a foolish dist-upgrade, i think it removed busybox or something and lost its own tar |
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| 02:37.23 | frankS2 | enouf: ext3 |
| 02:37.35 | abrotman | guysoft42: that would seem to imply a command not found .. not permission denied |
| 02:37.42 | guysoft42 | anyway i wont know if there is no space: df -h |
| 02:37.42 | guysoft42 | bash: df: command not found |
| 02:37.51 | enouf | frankS2: dmesg | tail to see /dev/nameX ; file -s /dev/sdXX |
| 02:38.11 | wip | eh guys, since my last apt-get upgrade, my debian etch is freezing from time to time when booting it @ Enabling IO-apic IRQs |
| 02:38.13 | guysoft42 | abrotman, maybe.. the problem is i carn't seem to exacute many things |
| 02:38.17 | wip | found a solut |
| 02:38.20 | crhomber | /bin/df |
| 02:38.26 | abrotman | guysoft42: did your filesystem go readonly ? |
| 02:38.36 | guysoft42 | [3|user@Nokia-N810-36-5|~]/bin/df bash: /bin/df: No such file or directory |
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| 02:38.57 | guysoft42 | abchirk, no, is fine, i can even move things over sftp |
| 02:38.57 | wip | oups... found a post on google about passing noapic at boot time what do you think??? |
| 02:38.57 | abrotman | on debian? |
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| 02:39.30 | Si1ver1ock | what's the deal with -> user messagebus? |
| 02:39.51 | wip | if it's working, how to pass noapic this argument automatically? |
| 02:40.17 | enouf | d{-}bus related for DEs |
| 02:40.18 | pl4yer0ne | wip, you put it in your grub/lilo config |
| 02:40.24 | dmoerner | wip, put in the defoptions field of /boot/grub/menu.lst and update-grub |
| 02:40.27 | abrotman | guysoft42: which version of debian is this? |
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| 02:40.43 | wip | ok will try... i hope it will fix this problem |
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| 02:40.58 | enouf | wip: cat /proc/cmdline -- find that in your bootloader and appens |
| 02:40.59 | guysoft42 | abrotman, its a system that is running on a Nokia N810. its a strange hybrid of lenny and etch |
| 02:41.06 | enouf | append* |
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| 02:41.47 | app4des | Guys is there a site/manual that exactly explains the filesystems hierarchy and the way that debian loads services-daemons etc? |
| 02:41.49 | abrotman | guysoft42: so your system doesn't work correctly, you're mixing versions of debian .. you're confused? |
| 02:41.55 | abrotman | guysoft42: is this actually Maemo? |
| 02:42.04 | abrotman | !fhs |
| 02:42.05 | dpkg | Debian follows the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard. The filesystem is categorized by purpose, not application. This allows, for example, the easy and efficient deployment of a read-only /usr area across a number of thin clients. See http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ or install the 'debian-policy' package (/usr/share/doc/debian-policy/fhs/*), or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard |
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| 02:42.15 | enouf | app4des: and /msg dpkg startup |
| 02:42.16 | guysoft42 | abrotman, yes.. it is. isn't that what maemo is? |
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| 02:42.33 | lagrotta | There's any problem/bug with nwe Debian 5.0 release? *Dumb question* |
| 02:42.38 | evilGUI | I'm running Debian on my server and haven't gotten any security updates in a long time, I did uncomment the security line in sources.list. |
| 02:42.42 | abrotman | guysoft42: you know there's a #maemo .. right ? |
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| 02:43.16 | guysoft42 | abrotman, i am there all the time.. but mostly no one really answers there about complex debian questions |
| 02:43.18 | TCW | Ooops... my ISP did it again *sing* |
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| 02:43.36 | guysoft42 | i tried asking there no, but there is no one |
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| 02:43.42 | guysoft42 | and this is kida urgent |
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| 02:43.49 | pl4yer0ne | TCW, looks like it was hackz0r |
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| 02:44.01 | evilGUI | Is there a list of security updates somewhere? |
| 02:44.02 | enouf | [21:39:50] Forgetting pending DCC GET from Bacrack <-- twice now |
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| 02:44.08 | jimmio | Hmmm |
| 02:44.09 | enouf | thanks dondelelcaro |
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| 02:44.23 | christefano | somebody kick Bacrack please. |
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| 02:44.29 | jimmio | Bacrack wants to send me startkeylogger... (Cancel) |
| 02:44.35 | pl4yer0ne | christefano, already left |
| 02:44.37 | enouf | it's done |
| 02:44.42 | christefano | cool, thanks |
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| 02:45.34 | evilGUI | Does this look correct? http://pastebin.ca/1345471 |
| 02:46.14 | enouf | the url looks valid :-P |
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| 02:46.20 | evilGUI | jimmio: Same think it caused any damage? |
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| 02:46.52 | pl4yer0ne | evilGUI, yes nothing wrong there |
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| 02:47.15 | pl4yer0ne | do you have a problem or were just checking? |
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| 02:47.46 | evilGUI | pl4yer0ne: Not sure I got this http://pastebin.com/m73dba34d |
| 02:48.05 | evilGUI | I'm running Ubuntu and irssi. |
| 02:48.05 | b1n42y | to get debian with kde3.5 can i just download one cd ? |
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| 02:48.22 | jimmio | evilGUI: If you didn't accept it, didn't give it run permissions, and didn't open it... It kinda can't. |
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| 02:48.41 | abrotman | evilGUI: ask #ubuntu |
| 02:48.42 | evilGUI | jimmio: ah alright, I didn't know if it was a exploit or somthing. |
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| 02:49.03 | pl4yer0ne | evilGUI, yeah that was some loser trying to send everyone a bad file. |
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| 02:50.09 | b1n42y | the website isnt clear on that does anyone know |
| 02:50.20 | kindofabuzz | ok i cloned my debian partitions to hda from hdb, but even though i change menu.list it still boots and mounts all the parts on hdb |
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| 02:50.37 | abrotman | b1n42y: you can get the KDE CD1 |
| 02:50.49 | enouf | change /etc/fstab too kindofabuzz |
| 02:50.54 | kindofabuzz | oh yeah! |
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| 02:51.06 | abrotman | b1n42y: i386? amd64? |
| 02:51.13 | miksuh | kindofabuzz: your fstab entries probably still point to hdb |
| 02:51.35 | kindofabuzz | yup sure do |
| 02:51.38 | dureyes | I am using the gnome desktop, and when I installed some applications not related to kde I got a tab under applications called "other" and it is all related to kde, is this normal? |
| 02:51.39 | b1n42y | i386 |
| 02:51.46 | miksuh | kindofabuzz: change fstab then |
| 02:52.24 | abrotman | b1n42y: torrent or ISO ? |
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| 02:52.35 | kindofabuzz | ok changed, lemme try again lol |
| 02:53.07 | b1n42y | abrotman: either, im on 12kb at the moment |
| 02:53.19 | b1n42y | torrent |
| 02:53.29 | abrotman | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.0/i386/bt-cd/debian-500-i386-kde-CD-1.iso.torrent |
| 02:53.46 | b1n42y | abrotman: thank you |
| 02:53.49 | abrotman | 12kb .. that's like .. *awful* :) |
| 02:54.05 | b1n42y | abrotman: we get capped here in oz |
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| 02:54.38 | amimusa | hello, how could I manage more than one domaines on the same box ? |
| 02:54.43 | abrotman | ah ok |
| 02:54.52 | amimusa | dovecot ? |
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| 02:55.18 | TomWork | hey how can I see why my debian interrupts a lot (saw in vmstat) |
| 02:55.33 | Hoxzer | karsten and dondelelcaro my problem seems to be not with getty's loading but display going off when changing to virtual console :( |
| 02:55.48 | amimusa | I am hosting one site, but I will host others and they will want mail accounts with their domaine |
| 02:55.50 | TomWork | I have a lot of interrupts and not so many context switching |
| 02:55.58 | amimusa | any hint where can i found help about please ?¿ |
| 02:56.05 | TomWork | and for the same job a fedora is 1/3 faster ... :(( |
| 02:56.12 | kindofabuzz | ok got that taken care of, but i noticed in grub, the entrys still have the vmlinuz on hdb and stuff but it still worked. how do i change all that? live cd then run grub? |
| 02:56.16 | pl4yer0ne | amimusa, check out virtual domains |
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| 02:56.36 | kindofabuzz | does this channel have a bot? |
| 02:56.41 | amimusa | also for mail accounts pl4yer0ne ? i know this for different host |
| 02:56.43 | abrotman | more than one bot |
| 02:56.59 | kindofabuzz | how do i ask something to it? |
| 02:57.14 | kindofabuzz | i just need a link, i'm lazy |
| 02:57.19 | abrotman | depends what you want to ask |
| 02:57.22 | kindofabuzz | !grub |
| 02:57.22 | dpkg | it has been said that grub is the Grand Unified Bootloader at http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/ . It's an extremely powerful boot loader which can boot many OSes, understands many filesystems (including <reiserfs> and <XFS> since 0.97), but see http://bugs.debian.org/grub. For an install guide, see http://linuxjournal.com/4622, or "aptitude install grub grub-doc". To reinstall, ask about <fixmbr> or <grub.errors> |
| 02:57.26 | kindofabuzz | there we go =) |
| 02:57.38 | pl4yer0ne | amimusa, RTM www.postfix.org (assuming your using postfix) |
| 02:57.49 | miksuh | kindofabuzz: change the menu.lst, on hda :) |
| 02:57.57 | amimusa | i am looking on exim4 virtual domain |
| 02:57.58 | amimusa | thanks |
| 02:58.07 | kindofabuzz | miksuh, i did |
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| 02:58.34 | infernixx | panics |
| 02:58.39 | infernixx | screw selinux |
| 02:58.42 | kindofabuzz | miksuh, but in actual grub it still has hdb and stuff, so i assume i need to run grub and reset it all |
| 02:58.48 | infernixx | what a nightmare, even after 30 minutes |
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| 02:59.36 | TCW | pl4yer0ne, not really... I bet just maintenance work during times most customers don't notice any off-time :) |
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| 03:00.22 | kindofabuzz | oh i missed some setting in menu.list |
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| 03:00.47 | pl4yer0ne | TCW, my conspiracy theroy version was better =) |
| 03:01.03 | pl4yer0ne | and clearly theroy = theory thats just how i roll |
| 03:01.09 | TCW | pl4yer0ne, but it conflicts with my way of life ;) |
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| 03:01.49 | pl4yer0ne | conflict can be good for you |
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| 03:02.13 | TCW | plazia, I have may of them already... not need for some more :) |
| 03:02.17 | TCW | many even |
| 03:02.28 | TCW | no need even... damn keyboard |
| 03:02.32 | plazia | TCW, ? |
| 03:02.43 | plazia | I'm sorry. I don't understand why you addressed that statement toward me. |
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| 03:02.49 | plazia | Could you please specify the parameters. |
| 03:02.57 | pl4yer0ne | plazia, is like pl4yer0ne |
| 03:02.59 | TCW | plazia, oops... sorry, it was meant for pl4yer0ne |
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| 03:03.08 | plazia | Understood. |
| 03:03.15 | InvX | I have a problem in Debian. |
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| 03:03.33 | pl4yer0ne | but apparently TCW's way of life also includes bad tabbing =D |
| 03:03.35 | TCW | plazia, you know... those leet guys with ultra leet nicknames... sometimes they confuse a non-leet mind (like mine) ;) |
| 03:03.55 | InvX | When I boot and have no network connection, the boot process stalls for several seconds at "Starting MTA", which makes the boot process a lot longer if I don't happen to be connected |
| 03:03.58 | pl4yer0ne | harsh, but fair. |
| 03:04.00 | plazia | ah ... your client supports tab-based auto-completion of nicknames. |
| 03:04.04 | plazia | how quaint. |
| 03:04.06 | InvX | Does anyone know how to solve this problem? |
| 03:04.09 | TCW | pl4yer0ne, not at all... my mind read playerone, I did type pla<tab>, the rest is history :) |
| 03:04.41 | platab | problem solved! |
| 03:05.13 | TCW | plazia, what would be the modern way? |
| 03:05.19 | TCW | platab, indeed :) |
| 03:05.41 | plazia | the modern way? cell engineering, tissue engineering and robots. |
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| 03:06.04 | jimmio | Hello all! How can I get the Ubuntu nautilus thing in Debian? It's driving me insane! O_O |
| 03:06.09 | TCW | plazia, and how is THAT related to nick name completetion at all? :) |
| 03:06.18 | platab | ahhh so plazia is delusional that makes more sense. |
| 03:06.26 | TCW | jimmio, what? |
| 03:06.29 | karsten | jimmio: Um, install nautilus? |
| 03:06.36 | jimmio | It's installed x.x |
| 03:06.43 | pl4yer0ne | problem solved then jimmio |
| 03:06.51 | jimmio | x.x |
| 03:06.57 | jimmio | isn't. |
| 03:07.00 | pl4yer0ne | what are you trying to do? |
| 03:07.06 | karsten | jimmio: What specifically is "the Ubuntu nautilus thing"? |
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| 03:07.13 | karsten | jimmio: Then... *install* it. |
| 03:07.19 | pl4yer0ne | and try and use fully descriptive sentances this time |
| 03:07.22 | TCW | jimmio, first, if you like the ubuntu thingy, stick with ubuntu... second, if you like some feature of ubuntu but like debian more, you need to be MORE specific about what thingy exactly you are talking about |
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| 03:07.29 | karsten | !tell jimmio about installit |
| 03:07.52 | plazia | haha |
| 03:08.10 | jimmio | I want nautilus to not suck =P As in, not open another window when I double click a directory? Having the "back" buttons above the area... |
| 03:08.21 | TCW | a default Debian without nautilus installed? How is that possible? |
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| 03:08.39 | jimmio | it's installed for the third time... it's just setup weirdly. |
| 03:08.44 | TCW | jimmio, then set it up the way you like it? |
| 03:08.46 | pl4yer0ne | jimmio, you turn those settings off, they're in the gui options i think |
| 03:08.57 | InvX | jimmio: open a nautilus window, then EDIT -> PREFERENCES, go to the behaviour tab |
| 03:09.07 | pl4yer0ne | "always open in browser windows" |
| 03:09.09 | abrotman | jimmio: read the nautilus documentation, learn how to configure it |
| 03:09.15 | karsten | jimmio: Um, a clightly more precise definition of what you want, and what you've got and/or the problem is, would help |
| 03:09.24 | pl4yer0ne | abrotman, its ok you can say RTFM =D |
| 03:09.42 | InvX | jimmio: Does that solve your problem? |
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| 03:09.47 | TCW | jimmio, system > settings > managemnt of data, or whatever it is called there... I don't have an english system |
| 03:09.49 | abrotman | at least documentation is in english these days :) |
| 03:10.07 | TCW | or ist it called file management? |
| 03:10.30 | karsten | jimmio: The best way fo rnautilus not to suck is to not use it. |
| 03:10.32 | enouf | manglement |
| 03:10.51 | pl4yer0ne | wtf? theres no settings for nautilus in there TCW ? |
| 03:11.19 | jimmio | Okay! It opened a proper nautilus window... |
| 03:11.25 | jimmio | now to see if it STAYS that way... |
| 03:11.32 | TCW | pl4yer0ne, don't see it literally... as said, no idea how it is named in an english system |
| 03:11.38 | InvX | jimmio: It will stay that way unless you change it back |
| 03:11.47 | karsten | abrotman: I though tthat the nautilus documentation (and indeed all GNOME documentation) consisted of the sentence: "The GNOME Foundation has thoughtfully designed all its applications to be immediatley intuitive -- if this is not the case, you are not our designated target audience." |
| 03:11.57 | pl4yer0ne | ah I think its just "preferences" for us |
| 03:12.02 | jimmio | Sorry all... I got mad over something so stupid... works great. |
| 03:12.11 | karsten | jimmio: NP. |
| 03:12.15 | abrotman | karsten: heh |
| 03:12.24 | karsten | enouf: bash is my file mangler. |
| 03:12.41 | TCW | http://l10n.gnome.org/POT/nautilus.gnome-2-20/nautilus.gnome-2-20.de.po <- pl4yer0ne, look for the proper translation on your own for "VErwaltung von Dateien" :-P |
| 03:12.48 | enouf | it's more intuitive! |
| 03:13.11 | InvX | Guys, I have a problem with debian. When I boot and have no network connection, the boot process stalls for several seconds at "Starting MTA", which makes the boot process a lot longer if I don't happen to be connected. What might be the problem? |
| 03:13.19 | InvX | I mean, what's causing it? |
| 03:13.46 | abrotman | it's trying to do a dns lookup on your hostname |
| 03:14.04 | pl4yer0ne | TCW, "File management" |
| 03:14.11 | InvX | Is there anything I can do to stop it from doing that? |
| 03:14.37 | martian67 | pl4yer0ne, you will be happy to hear |
| 03:14.43 | martian67 | it was a via rhine chipset |
| 03:14.49 | pl4yer0ne | <- WIN! |
| 03:14.52 | martian67 | works fine with the via driver |
| 03:15.04 | martian67 | going to submit a patch |
| 03:15.42 | pl4yer0ne | quien es su Papa! |
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| 03:16.02 | pl4yer0ne | did you still have to add the pci id?: |
| 03:16.03 | TCW | pl4yer0ne, whatever :) |
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| 03:16.11 | martian67 | pl4yer0ne, yes |
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| 03:19.10 | narcarsiss | trying to mount hdd known as hdd1 i try sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/hdd1 /media/160 tthen i get ntfs-3g-mount: failed to access mountpoint /media/160: No such file or directory |
| 03:20.15 | jpinx | narcarsiss: does ls /media list /media/160 ? |
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| 03:21.12 | martian67 | pl4yer0ne, any place i can update pci-id databases? |
| 03:21.23 | pl4yer0ne | dunno man |
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| 03:21.46 | obnauticus | Can anyone here help me with sound real fast |
| 03:21.48 | pl4yer0ne | the only one i saw seemed to be really really out of date |
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| 03:21.50 | obnauticus | I seriously suck with linux + sound |
| 03:21.50 | obnauticus | :( |
| 03:22.02 | InvX | obnauticus, what seems to be the problem? |
| 03:22.06 | obnauticus | I'm trying to have multiplications write and read to the same sound device...and i think i have sheisted my whole sound setup |
| 03:22.10 | karsten | obnauticus: I mostly suck withj straws, but whatever. |
| 03:22.14 | obnauticus | InvX it's not working.... |
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| 03:22.18 | obnauticus | lol |
| 03:22.23 | obnauticus | sound doesn't play and stuffs |
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| 03:22.28 | obnauticus | I was trying to use pulseaudio |
| 03:22.30 | InvX | obnauticus, what is the output of this command: aplay -l |
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| 03:22.32 | obnauticus | but then i was told dmix could do it |
| 03:22.46 | obnauticus | so i deinstalled pulseaudio and went to dmix |
| 03:22.48 | obnauticus | and now.... errr |
| 03:22.49 | obnauticus | no idea |
| 03:23.05 | obnauticus | http://pastebin.ca/1345494 |
| 03:23.39 | InvX | obnauticus, I see. What happens when you run this command? alsamixer |
| 03:24.06 | InvX | Also, what happens when you try to play sounds? Do the sound playing programs give any error messages, or do they play but you can't hear anything/ |
| 03:24.07 | InvX | *? |
| 03:24.11 | obnauticus | nope |
| 03:24.20 | obnauticus | it gives me the pulseaudio console |
| 03:24.32 | obnauticus | it gives me master volume, and capture. |
| 03:24.49 | InvX | Ah. |
| 03:24.50 | narcarsiss | jpinx i forgot to make the 160 dir :/ sorry for time |
| 03:25.00 | InvX | Could you give me a screenshot of it? |
| 03:25.06 | obnauticus | InvX can you ssh in here and help me, i have no clue how to do linux sound, i've been trying to get this working for 2 days |
| 03:25.07 | obnauticus | lol |
| 03:25.21 | InvX | obnauticus, sure thing. PM me your IP address. |
| 03:25.24 | obnauticus | k |
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| 03:26.23 | jpinx | narcarsiss: np |
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| 03:27.32 | zcat[1] | I'd like to install firefox... I know iw is the same thing but how would I get FF installed? is there a repo somewhere or do I download it from firefox.com and install it by hand? |
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| 03:28.40 | abrotman | by hand .. better to use IW |
| 03:28.46 | zcat[1] | hmmmm |
| 03:28.57 | dondelelcaro | there's really no reason not to use iceweasel |
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| 03:29.04 | LittleNick | IW is kind of... more slow than FF =X |
| 03:29.08 | dondelelcaro | the only real difference is the name and logos |
| 03:29.25 | LittleNick | *slower |
| 03:29.38 | pickcoder | dondelelcaro: not the license? |
| 03:29.40 | pickcoder | :) |
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| 03:30.56 | reed | dondelelcaro: uh, that's completely not true |
| 03:31.08 | reed | iceweasel has a ton of custom changes |
| 03:31.31 | zcat[1] | btw iceweasel crashes here on gmail, pretty consistently |
| 03:31.32 | reed | you really can't realistically say "the only real difference is the name and logos" |
| 03:31.43 | reed | because that's just not true |
| 03:31.51 | LittleNick | I saw in some pages that you only extract the files from the firefox-3.0.6.tar.bz2 and copy it in /usr/lib/firefox/firefox/firefox3 |
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| 03:32.19 | LittleNick | I tried, but it doesn't work :( |
| 03:32.31 | abrotman | zcat[1]: works fine here |
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| 03:33.23 | abrotman | LittleNick: go ask mozilla, otherwise, aptitude install iceweasel |
| 03:34.22 | dondelelcaro | reed: almost every single change that is in iceweasel that isn't directly related to changing the logos and name is pulled from upstream's bugzilla |
| 03:34.22 | narcarsiss | ok here is one for you all. i have a sata expansion card installed in my computer with two sata hdds attached to it.. but linux does not detect it? i think |
| 03:34.28 | narcarsiss | clear |
| 03:34.30 | dondelelcaro | (and/or VCS repository) |
| 03:34.36 | reed | dondelelcaro: not true |
| 03:34.54 | reed | believe me, I know :) |
| 03:35.02 | zcat[1] | I might do a memtest .. not sure about this ram anyhow |
| 03:35.08 | dondelelcaro | reed: uh... I've reviewed the diff on quite a few occasions, so... |
| 03:35.16 | LittleNick | I had the problem that IW doesn't play flash stuff (i had flash player 9)... the problem was solved installing the flash player 10 from adobe site |
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| 03:35.33 | neoice | hey, anyone else notice some people DCC SEND'ing 'startkeylogger' to people in this channel? |
| 03:35.47 | LittleNick | Now is not as slow than before... but i really remember FF faster |
| 03:35.48 | abrotman | been resolved |
| 03:35.56 | neoice | awesome. :D |
| 03:36.34 | reed | and I'm the upstream guy at Mozilla that helps glandium where I can, but iceweasel definitely has a lot of custom patches still that aren't reviewed/approved upstream (for good reason(s) in many cases, too) |
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| 03:36.49 | peterrooney | narcarsiss: what module is loaded for it? |
| 03:37.13 | abrotman | narcarsiss: seen by lspci ? |
| 03:37.13 | narcarsiss | no idea just added it today? |
| 03:37.24 | narcarsiss | brb |
| 03:37.32 | dondelelcaro | reed: there certainly are some changes, but we're talking about changes on the order of a few hundred lines |
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| 03:37.46 | NeonLightning | reed, i'm liking using shiretoko sofar |
| 03:37.58 | dondelelcaro | reed: and if there are changes that are incorrect, file bugs about them |
| 03:38.17 | narcarsiss | yes: 05:00.0 SATA controller: Initio Corporation INI-1623 PCI SATA-II Controller (rev 02) |
| 03:38.18 | reed | NeonLightning: yeah, 3.1 is nice... I run latest tip myself |
| 03:38.22 | reed | (Minefield) |
| 03:38.24 | zcat[1] | 'good reason' meaning? they're bad changes? Or just inappropriate for upstream? |
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| 03:38.51 | abrotman | narcarsiss: -nn please |
| 03:38.57 | NeonLightning | altho i still liked how light and fast 1.5 was just didn't have support for some of the newer language stuff |
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| 03:40.14 | narcarsiss | -nn ? |
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| 03:40.32 | dmoerner | narcarsiss, pastebin lspci -nn for more information |
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| 03:41.22 | dondelelcaro | reed: in fact, the only changes that I see that look even remotely interesting are the patches to nsGNOMEShellService.cpp, application.js and FeedConverter.js. |
| 03:41.47 | dondelelcaro | everything else is either debian specific, branding related, or updating of config scripts |
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| 03:42.12 | dondelelcaro | (this of course being 3.0.5; didn't bother to check 3.0.6-1) |
| 03:42.24 | narcarsiss | http://pastebin.com/d56a4cb9 |
| 03:42.53 | reed | zcat[1]: upstream has r-'d them in most cases due to various reasons |
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| 03:43.22 | abrotman | judd: pciid 1101:1622 |
| 03:43.23 | judd | abrotman: [1101:1622] is 'INI-1623 PCI SATA-II Controller' from 'Initio Corporation' with kernel module 'sata_inic162x' in lenny. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.cgi?check=1&lspci=1101:1622 |
| 03:43.30 | abrotman | narcarsiss: are you using lenny? |
| 03:43.35 | dondelelcaro | reed: care to give an example of one of those changes? |
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| 03:43.55 | narcarsiss | i am |
| 03:44.04 | abrotman | narcarsiss: seems it should already be functional |
| 03:44.20 | narcarsiss | hmm any gui way to tell |
| 03:44.32 | abrotman | dmesg ? |
| 03:44.51 | narcarsiss | just it is not detecting my sata hdd's |
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| 03:44.57 | peterrooney | narcarsiss: does lsmod show module inic-16[somethingorother] |
| 03:44.58 | inimino | I'm getting "configure: error: Compiler cannot compile macros used in autoconf tests." trying to compile firefox |
| 03:45.18 | reed | dondelelcaro: I will definitely say this diff is much smaller than it used to be several years ago :) |
| 03:45.33 | inimino | config.log is here: http://pastebin.com/d77630085 |
| 03:45.42 | dondelelcaro | reed: yes; it's not really appropriate to be talking about the state of the diff as of 2.0 |
| 03:46.20 | dondelelcaro | (which *did* have quite a bit of a divergence) |
| 03:46.20 | reed | I know the applications.js one got r-'d already, nsGNOMEShellService.cpp one -- can't remember the status; will check on it, FeedConverter.js got r-'d iirc |
| 03:46.20 | narcarsiss | sata_inic162x 8260 0 |
| 03:46.21 | dondelelcaro | reed: r-'d meaning what? |
| 03:46.26 | reed | review- |
| 03:46.30 | reed | meaning denied review |
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| 03:46.38 | reed | (bugzilla flags) |
| 03:47.00 | inimino | any hints? |
| 03:47.06 | narcarsiss | libata 140384 2 ata_generic,sata_inic162x |
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| 03:47.35 | inimino | here's my mozconfig: http://pastebin.com/d2958b195 |
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| 03:47.57 | peterrooney | narcarsiss: that's a good sign. it suggests (i) card is detected at boot, and (ii) correct module is being loaded. |
| 03:47.57 | abrotman | wait .. there are patches they won't even review ? |
| 03:48.12 | reed | abrotman: what do you mean? |
| 03:48.30 | reed | inimino: please read the top of that mozconfig |
| 03:48.33 | abrotman | reed: you know .. i send a patch .. they decide without actually reading it that it won't be reviewed ? |
| 03:48.38 | reed | ? |
| 03:48.39 | inimino | abrotman, that means it was reviewed |
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| 03:48.43 | inimino | and denied |
| 03:49.03 | abrotman | denied review ? .. not reviewed and denied |
| 03:49.07 | reed | correct |
| 03:49.09 | inimino | reed: sorry, I copied the file into place, that's not the problem |
| 03:49.19 | abrotman | right .. so it they don't review it |
| 03:49.21 | reed | ? |
| 03:49.21 | reed | no |
| 03:49.25 | reed | they reviewed it |
| 03:49.34 | reed | and found it wasn't right in some way |
| 03:49.47 | reed | gave comments as to why it wasn't right |
| 03:49.51 | abrotman | sounds like a poorly chosen phrasing .. oh well |
| 03:49.55 | icenine | inimino, do you have all the associated X libraries installed, such as Xt ? |
| 03:50.03 | abrotman | narcarsiss: can you paste your dmesg in a pastebin ? |
| 03:50.06 | icenine | also the headers |
| 03:50.07 | reed | inimino: apt-get build-dep iceweasel ? |
| 03:50.07 | peterrooney | narcarsiss: what device names they might have been given at boot time? dmesg is usually a good tool for that. |
| 03:50.34 | narcarsiss | ok so the hardware is detected at boot but why not the sata hdd's? |
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| 03:50.42 | inimino | icenine: yes |
| 03:50.45 | reed | abrotman: ah, well, it's the terminology we've used for over ten years :) |
| 03:50.50 | inimino | reed: yeah, I did that before starting |
| 03:51.05 | abrotman | reed: that's why i'm incompatible with bugzilla :) |
| 03:51.11 | reed | hah |
| 03:51.21 | narcarsiss | terminal cutting half the text off? |
| 03:51.27 | reed | I do have to say by far glandium (and therefore Debian) is the best upstreamer of all the Linux distros |
| 03:51.27 | abrotman | don't even ask how many problems i have searching for bugs in a bugzilla system :) |
| 03:51.44 | reed | the other distros rarely upstream patches |
| 03:51.45 | gravity | blinks |
| 03:51.46 | reed | makes me very angry |
| 03:51.54 | gravity | I didn't think the mozilla people even remotely liked Debian |
| 03:51.58 | inimino | the problem probably has something to do with not finding confdefs.h |
| 03:52.09 | abrotman | reed: wait .. so you're complaining about iceweasel .. and that other distros don't upstream patches ? |
| 03:52.18 | reed | abrotman: sure, I can do both ;) |
| 03:52.19 | gravity | so... confused |
| 03:52.20 | inimino | but I have no idea which part of the build system is broken |
| 03:52.23 | narcarsiss | dnt worry got it |
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| 03:52.38 | abrotman | reed: okay then! |
| 03:52.46 | peterrooney | narcarsiss: the sata drives could be used as scsi devices, /dev/sda /dev/sdb et cetera. |
| 03:52.47 | reed | gravity: haha, there are certain people at Mozilla who dislike Debian |
| 03:52.48 | abrotman | narcarsiss: you got it fixed ? |
| 03:52.56 | reed | I think the whole iceweasel naming thing is silly, but whatever |
| 03:52.58 | guysoft42 | is there a way to overcome an error like: bash: ./ls: cannot execute binary file ? |
| 03:53.17 | reed | I'm just happy that Debian is upstreaming patches |
| 03:53.18 | dondelelcaro | I think everyone agrees that the need to rename is silly |
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| 03:53.20 | inimino | (I think the naming thing is ridiculous) |
| 03:53.23 | narcarsiss | no i worked out how to get all of my dmesg listed in term |
| 03:53.30 | abrotman | guysoft42: there is a #maemo |
| 03:53.30 | dondelelcaro | what we disagree on is why it's silly |
| 03:53.37 | OldMonk | guysoft42: where is this ls? |
| 03:53.44 | OldMonk | guysoft42: in wich directory? |
| 03:54.11 | peterrooney | narcarsiss: does `dmesg | grep /dev/sd' have any output? |
| 03:54.24 | inimino | so, I've been trying to compile Firefox for some time now, any suggestions what I should try? |
| 03:54.39 | reed | gravity: I personally use Debian on one of my servers, Ubuntu on my desktops, and RHEL on some other servers, so I mix and match ;) |
| 03:54.54 | peterrooney | inimino: a faster processor? |
| 03:54.57 | dondelelcaro | inimino: try asking in #firefox or on irc.mozilla.org |
| 03:55.03 | peterrooney | ducks |
| 03:55.07 | dondelelcaro | (since it's not really on topic here) |
| 03:55.09 | narcarsiss | http://pastebin.com/d1aaaa03d |
| 03:55.17 | gravity | The mozilla build process is pretty scary |
| 03:55.20 | reed | hah |
| 03:55.20 | inimino | dondelelcaro: I did that yesterday, we weren't able to get anywhere |
| 03:55.23 | abrotman | there's a process? |
| 03:55.28 | reed | sure, there's a process |
| 03:55.32 | inimino | dondelelcaro: I'm not sure if it's on |
| 03:55.34 | guysoft42 | OldMonk, any directory |
| 03:55.39 | reed | one of our guys is currently rewriting GNU make as Python |
| 03:55.42 | narcarsiss | zip nadda |
| 03:55.44 | guysoft42 | home directory for that mattter |
| 03:55.50 | inimino | on-topic here or not, isnce I don't know which part of it isn't working |
| 03:55.58 | dondelelcaro | inimino: well, that's the places where it is actually on topic. |
| 03:56.06 | OldMonk | guysoft42: ok, /why/ are you trying to execute ls from your home directory? |
| 03:56.09 | dondelelcaro | inimino: if you're here, we can talk to you about how to build the iceweasel packages... |
| 03:56.18 | reed | http://benjamin.smedbergs.us/blog/2009-02-13/pymake/ :) |
| 03:56.25 | gravity | saw that hit reddit |
| 03:56.37 | guysoft42 | OldMonk, because it does not exist in bin, so the only way i could get it in the filesystem was with sftp to the home directory |
| 03:56.53 | OldMonk | guysoft42: er, not in /bin? how come? |
| 03:56.53 | guysoft42 | OldMonk, i would have copied it, but cp does not exist.. |
| 03:57.01 | inimino | dondelelcaro: for all I know it's the debian autoconf that's broken |
| 03:57.15 | gravity | autotools NEVER breaks |
| 03:57.22 | guysoft42 | OldMonk, i found a way to overcome that, since the python interpreter works i could write a cp.py program |
| 03:57.26 | OldMonk | guysoft42: looks like you're trying to break out a restriction your server admin has imposed on users. is that correct? |
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| 03:57.29 | abrotman | narcarsiss: telling you the link is down |
| 03:57.38 | inimino | gravity: perish the thought. |
| 03:57.42 | gravity | hopes the sarcasm was self evident even over the internets |
| 03:57.54 | abrotman | narcarsiss: see around line 380 |
| 03:57.56 | guysoft42 | OldMonk, no i am trying to recover a foolish apt-get distupgrade in a Nokia N810 |
| 03:58.08 | abrotman | #maemo |
| 03:58.14 | narcarsiss | http://pastebin.com/d1aaaa03d |
| 03:58.23 | esaym | if my chunk size one a raid is 256kb then that means that a 2byte file will still take up 256kb right? |
| 03:58.30 | OldMonk | guysoft42: ok :) see if the filesystem is mounted noexec |
| 03:58.36 | OldMonk | guysoft42: or what abrotman said |
| 03:58.37 | esaym | on* |
| 03:59.09 | guysoft42 | ABCD, they are not answering.. and this is a linux-from-scrach problem anyway, its not maemo spesific.. if i was stupid enough i could have done it on a PC |
| 03:59.17 | narcarsiss | ok so what does this mean? is the card shitty? |
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| 03:59.38 | guysoft42 | OldMonk, it isnt.. i know that becaues its the root filesystem, and it did not boot before.. plus apt-get still works |
| 03:59.39 | abrotman | or cable/drives .. got another SATA drive to try ? |
| 03:59.47 | abrotman | guysoft42: ##linux ? |
| 04:00.04 | guysoft42 | OldMonk, i am afraid though i carn't prove it to you, mount and df are dead |
| 04:00.04 | ABCD | guysoft42: I think you pinged the wrong person :) |
| 04:00.06 | OldMonk | guysoft42: then the file isn't a nokia-n810-executable file |
| 04:00.18 | guysoft42 | ABCD, oh, sorry |
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| 04:00.26 | abrotman | ABCD: it's okay .. i saw it anyways :) |
| 04:00.38 | guysoft42 | OldMonk, its armel architecture.. |
| 04:00.46 | OldMonk | guysoft42: doesn't probve anything |
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| 04:01.13 | guysoft42 | OldMonk, well i got the files off the deb package for armel |
| 04:01.29 | OldMonk | guysoft42: are those supposed to work on the n810? |
| 04:01.34 | peterrooney | narcarsiss: maybe, maybe not. are sata devices supposed have ID number jumpers like SCSI, or master/slave like IDE? |
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| 04:02.37 | sepult_ | in which group does one have to be in order to start kde ? |
| 04:03.11 | narcarsiss | like scsi hdd's have no jumpers exept to limit them to 32GB |
| 04:03.20 | sepult_ | i'm not sure if it's a authentication failure but dbus is running and kdeinit4 is complaining that it cannot find the dbus socket |
| 04:03.37 | sepult_ | no dbus session_bus found ? |
| 04:03.43 | sepult_ | wtf |
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| 04:05.00 | narcarsiss | oh wait do you mean on the card it's self? |
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| 04:07.37 | peterrooney | narcarsiss: i just looked it up. no jumpers on SATA hard drives. from your pastebin, it looks like the card is seeing two drives, and erroring on both of them. do you have any scsi devices listed in /dev? eg. ls /dev/sd* |
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| 04:08.36 | narcarsiss | nothing in /sd |
| 04:08.44 | narcarsiss | comes out blank |
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| 04:10.02 | peterrooney | narcarsiss: hmmm. aside from doublechecking the physical connectors during the next shutdown, I'm out of ideas, others might not be yet. |
| 04:10.38 | narcarsiss | well i got no ware near as far as you.. so thankyou verry much |
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| 04:12.57 | diarrhea | $ aptitude purge diarrhea |
| 04:13.17 | diarrhea | >> removing diarrhea |
| 04:13.23 | diarrhea | BRTSADBSDGSDSDVBSDRSDR |
| 04:13.29 | diarrhea | OH YEAH |
| 04:14.11 | diarrhea | meh, i'll try trolling #ubuntu |
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| 04:16.25 | simonrvn | ... |
| 04:17.15 | narcarsiss | ((O_o)) |
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| 04:19.41 | app4des | how do I disable the automatic network discovery (from avahi) ? |
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| 04:21.03 | narcarsiss | you can disable avahi by doing System > Administration > Services and disabling "Multicast DNS service discovery" |
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| 04:21.36 | app4des | narcarsiss: I did, but it gets enabled again after restart |
| 04:21.40 | kindofabuzz | how do i get iceowl to work? icedove does not see it |
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| 04:22.48 | narcarsiss | no idea mate |
| 04:23.08 | narcarsiss | uninstall it and find an alternative |
| 04:23.27 | app4des | narcarsiss: it is tied to the gnome metapackage and break the system |
| 04:23.32 | kindofabuzz | yeah i'm about to, thunderbird |
| 04:24.42 | jsubl2_ | p iceowl-extension - Calendar Extension for Thunderbird/Icedove |
| 04:24.52 | kindofabuzz | lightning doesn't work correct with icedove and neither does it's adebian alternative, ieowl, so i'm just going to fun TB |
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| 04:25.54 | kindofabuzz | oh i did the wrong one lol |
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| 04:26.41 | jsubl2_ | happens to most of us |
| 04:27.42 | kindofabuzz | right on, there it goes =) |
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| 04:28.00 | obnauticus | Anyone here good with sound on freebsD? |
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| 04:28.33 | OldMonk | i hit a freebsd box with a hammer once and recorded the result... does that work? |
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| 04:29.30 | obnauticus | no |
| 04:29.31 | obnauticus | not relly |
| 04:29.41 | kindofabuzz | i tried to install bsd last night but for some reason i had no grub or lilo, whatever it uses, or just didn't have my main grub chainloaded correctly to it, so i deleted it all and got Debian =) |
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| 04:30.55 | Seb | anyone else seeing acroread (from mariallt) hanging badly on sid these days ? It doesn't take any mouse input at all, and call only be killed with -9. Doesn't matter if I start it with "acroread" or acroread foo.pdf |
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| 04:34.49 | obnauticus | well OldMonk it err |
| 04:34.58 | obnauticus | i installed and got all my drivers installed and loaded and everything |
| 04:35.05 | obnauticus | however, mpg123 is just not playing anything |
| 04:35.58 | adb | try vlc |
| 04:35.59 | obnauticus | no gui |
| 04:35.59 | kindofabuzz | !deluge |
| 04:35.59 | dpkg | i heard deluge is a Python/PyGTK BitTorrent client co-developed by markybob. Available for Lenny and through backports.org for Etch (ask me about <backports.org>). http://www.deluge-torrent.org/ |
| 04:36.28 | OldMonk | obnauticus: does bsd have a dmesg equivalent? |
| 04:36.39 | obnauticus | yes, type dmesg |
| 04:37.18 | OldMonk | obnauticus: does your sound card show up in dmesg? |
| 04:37.58 | obnauticus | right now my dmesg is being filled with acpi stuff |
| 04:38.10 | obnauticus | but ya, my sound card is dectected |
| 04:38.35 | OldMonk | sorry, but my bsd expert is holidaying in the himalayas right now, otherwise i'd have asked her |
| 04:38.52 | obnauticus | Installed devices: |
| 04:38.53 | obnauticus | pcm0: <Intel ICH4 (82801DB)> at io 0xe8080c00, 0xe8080800 irq 17 bufsz 16384 kld snd_ich (1p/1r/1v channels duplex default) |
| 04:38.55 | OldMonk | in the meantime, switch to linux and replicate the problem, then i could help you ;) |
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| 04:40.11 | obnauticus | well i was origionally trying to get duplexing woprking on linux |
| 04:40.13 | obnauticus | for 2 days |
| 04:40.15 | obnauticus | it was fail |
| 04:40.17 | obnauticus | and now iut fails on freebsd. |
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| 04:45.10 | lewis2 | what's that 32-bit glibc package called? |
| 04:45.48 | lewis2 | ia32-libs ;) |
| 04:46.05 | jair | guys if i am getting this type of messenges on my freenode window: http://rafb.net/p/yBRJme35.html what should I do where should I report this, it looks like someone on freenode is trying to do something nasty like putting a keylogger on peoples computer. |
| 04:46.39 | jair | I most of the time at #debian and other channels with freenode server but this is getting kind of dangerous. |
| 04:47.18 | jair | any suggestions where should I send this information. |
| 04:47.26 | Seb | jair: #freenode |
| 04:47.30 | Seb | jair: but they'll know by now |
| 04:47.38 | jair | Seb: ohhhh ok |
| 04:47.56 | jair | so I should let it be? |
| 04:48.10 | jair | I will paste it there just in case |
| 04:48.17 | jair | thank you Seb |
| 04:48.37 | QWonder | i can't install xorg through aptitude, it tells me that it depends on some font packages that are [UNAVAILABLE] |
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| 04:51.02 | simonrvn | you sure your sources.list is ok? |
| 04:51.46 | QWonder | i haven't modified it from how lenny installed it |
| 04:52.16 | simonrvn | added security at that time? |
| 04:52.24 | peterrooney | QWonder: doesn't necessarily mean it's perfect |
| 04:52.25 | QWonder | everything but the cd is commented out |
| 04:52.25 | QWonder | heh |
| 04:53.03 | QWonder | should have had the ethernet plugged in when i installed i guess |
| 04:53.26 | peterrooney | simonrvn: this is the second reason why I always install with debconf priority set to 'low'. the first is, I'm a control freak. |
| 04:54.07 | simonrvn | i set it to low too, just 'cause i like to know what's going on. you can make better decisions if you have good info. |
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| 04:54.52 | simonrvn | QWonder: eh. have you updated recently? |
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| 04:55.44 | lkthomas | hey guys |
| 04:56.37 | lkthomas | how could I know if my debian is woody ? |
| 04:56.39 | QWonder | oh crap |
| 04:56.45 | QWonder | i'm just going to a FOURTH install |
| 04:57.03 | QWonder | it's 5.0 |
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| 04:57.22 | QWonder | there aren't even any packages that need to be updated, at least that's what aptitude tells me |
| 04:57.38 | simonrvn | lkthomas: um, current release is lenny... i suggest updating... |
| 04:57.38 | QWonder | actually |
| 04:57.44 | QWonder | i'm done with this |
| 04:57.53 | QWonder | i can't get it to work and no one in here or gnome can help me |
| 04:58.18 | simonrvn | QWonder: you don't provide enough info to help you, what do you expect? |
| 04:58.43 | simonrvn | like pastebin your sources.list for instance |
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| 04:59.28 | narcarsiss | how to get samba output from term |
| 04:59.35 | QWonder | that's not the problem, i fixed it |
| 04:59.39 | obnauticus | Can...someone help me with sound+freebsd? |
| 04:59.39 | simonrvn | it has a log |
| 04:59.40 | QWonder | i've done three clean installs |
| 05:00.07 | simonrvn | wonders why QWonder is having such problems |
| 05:00.09 | peterrooney | obnauticus: double check what channel you are in. |
| 05:00.10 | QWonder | the first i installed xorg and gnome during the initial setup, but then all the gnome applets were broken and nautilus wouldn't work |
| 05:00.13 | obnauticus | oh shit |
| 05:00.15 | obnauticus | lmao petemc |
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| 05:01.05 | peterrooney | obnauticus: it's not as bad as 'is there a freeware registry cleaner for vista yet?' |
| 05:01.19 | kindofabuzz | wow installed compiz and still using about 15% less ram than default ubuntu install. nice |
| 05:01.31 | obnauticus | petemc the channels were orgonized right ne=xt to each other |
| 05:01.33 | obnauticus | i just clicked on the wrong one |
| 05:01.34 | obnauticus | LMAO |
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| 05:02.27 | QWonder | i'm just going to throw this computer away |
| 05:02.44 | simonrvn | what's the box? |
| 05:03.04 | QWonder | anyone want a 700MHz iMac G3 with 256MB RAM and a slot loading CD drive? |
| 05:03.15 | kindofabuzz | dude, make it a server |
| 05:03.18 | simonrvn | sure, having two would be nice ;) |
| 05:03.26 | QWonder | make it a server for what? i don't need a server |
| 05:03.30 | kindofabuzz | it can do something with linux, don't throw it away |
| 05:03.34 | QWonder | i have computers coming out of my ears |
| 05:03.41 | craigevil | thats not a bad imac , it has better specs than an XO |
| 05:03.42 | kindofabuzz | make a server for the sake of making a server =) |
| 05:03.45 | simonrvn | and those are a breeze to install debian on |
| 05:03.55 | QWonder | i have two dell xeon servers on my pourch |
| 05:04.14 | kindofabuzz | learn something, make it a firewall or something |
| 05:04.14 | simonrvn | QWonder: why are they on your porch? they run hot? :P |
| 05:04.21 | QWonder | lol, they're loud |
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| 05:04.33 | kindofabuzz | i'll take it. free shipping? |
| 05:04.35 | kindofabuzz | =) |
| 05:04.37 | QWonder | a firewall with one ethernet port |
| 05:04.46 | QWonder | free if you pick it up |
| 05:04.51 | kindofabuzz | you can get an ethernet card for like $5 |
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| 05:05.01 | simonrvn | kindofabuzz: uh, it's an imac |
| 05:05.03 | QWonder | for a mac?, i don't know anything about these things |
| 05:05.11 | QWonder | i have tons of old 3com 10/100 cards |
| 05:05.15 | kindofabuzz | oh don't know anything about imacs |
| 05:05.23 | simonrvn | they don't have pci slots like a desktop box does |
| 05:05.29 | kindofabuzz | oh |
| 05:05.35 | kindofabuzz | throw it away =) |
| 05:05.37 | QWonder | lol |
| 05:05.38 | simonrvn | knows a lot about macs |
| 05:05.43 | QWonder | you didn't even call it a desktop |
| 05:05.44 | QWonder | thank you |
| 05:06.01 | QWonder | it installs fine |
| 05:06.02 | simonrvn | it's more of a "consumer grade workstation" |
| 05:06.17 | QWonder | then i need to change some crap in xorg.conf to get it to work... then gnome is just broken everywhere |
| 05:06.21 | kindofabuzz | wow compiz even runs smoother on this machine than it did on ubuntu. i love you debian! =) |
| 05:06.28 | simonrvn | QWonder: what part of the world are you in? |
| 05:06.36 | QWonder | florida |
| 05:06.39 | QWonder | usa |
| 05:06.48 | simonrvn | QWonder: the xorg stuff is simple to fix. |
| 05:06.50 | kindofabuzz | oh not florida russia? =) |
| 05:06.53 | simonrvn | too far. damn. |
| 05:06.58 | TCW | I am a bit puzzled... how do I start a vncserver with a default gnome session? |
| 05:07.05 | QWonder | i have an OS 9 disc... but that's worthless |
| 05:07.20 | QWonder | i didn't want to browse the internet with IE5 or netscape |
| 05:07.21 | simonrvn | i have several, plus os x cds |
| 05:07.25 | QWonder | so that didn't last long |
| 05:07.28 | narcarsiss | peeterrooney yes there is it is cauled crap cleaner |
| 05:07.36 | kindofabuzz | i tooks some classes back in the day when os 7.5 was out, that's the only time i ever been on a mac |
| 05:07.43 | simonrvn | eh, that's why you get icab... erm, #debianppc QWonder |
| 05:08.04 | simonrvn | (be more on topic, heh) |
| 05:08.07 | TCW | with sarge it did it by default, now I just see a plain xserver, no panels, no nothing |
| 05:08.37 | simonrvn | you probably need to start a session |
| 05:09.02 | QWonder | that's nice |
| 05:09.06 | QWonder | maybe i can get help over there |
| 05:10.28 | TCW | simonrvn, true... I am almost sure there was a "gnome session" with sarge under /etc/X11/Xsession.d/... but now I only have 55gnome-session_gnomerc there, used that... no change, plain xserver with no panels and stuff |
| 05:11.06 | empiric | hi guys any one use joomla for contetnt management? |
| 05:12.02 | streuner | #joomla, i would guess |
| 05:12.23 | streuner | #joomla 107 NOTICE: Joomla! Version 1.5.9 has been released. This is a security release and all users should upgrade ASAP. |
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| 05:14.34 | _abc_ | hi |
| 05:14.46 | kindofabuzz | what exactly is kerneloops applet? |
| 05:14.56 | _abc_ | has someone got the baudline.com product working on etch ? here it fails with a strange x11 error although it is linked ok |
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| 05:17.42 | QWonder | maybe i'll make it an asterisk server, i've always wanted to play around with that |
| 05:17.46 | QWonder | didn't they rename it? |
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| 05:18.48 | kindofabuzz | sotickbox or something like that |
| 05:18.52 | kindofabuzz | trickbox |
| 05:19.00 | kindofabuzz | i think |
| 05:19.07 | kindofabuzz | trixbox? |
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| 05:19.13 | kindofabuzz | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:19.38 | QWonder | ah, trixbox |
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| 05:29.34 | locality | locality is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. |
| 05:29.40 | locality | aaaah! what's this |
| 05:30.01 | zinx | exactly what it says. |
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| 05:30.22 | locality | so i have to root up to install opera? |
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| 05:30.55 | zinx | uhm, what do you think sudo does? |
| 05:31.23 | locality | yeah, that's when i got that message |
| 05:31.49 | icemang_ | I'm trying to make oldconfig in the 2.6.26 source in lenny and am seeing the error 'scripts/Makefile.build:41: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.26-1-xen-686/scripts/basic/Makefile: No such file or directory" |
| 05:31.54 | icemang_ | How can I configure the kernel? |
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| 05:32.37 | arisv | hello |
| 05:32.39 | arisv | http://www.nabble.com/tp-link-WN322G-td21524214.html |
| 05:32.46 | arisv | where is this zd_rf.c in debian? can't find it. |
| 05:32.48 | arisv | any ideas? |
| 05:32.51 | zinx | locality: you have to have root to install opera no matter how you attain root.. sudo is one way, which requires your user to be in /etc/sudoers (man sudoers / visudo / etc) |
| 05:33.06 | QWonder | locality, su brings you to a root shell, sudo just runs a program as root, they basically do the same thing for you |
| 05:33.06 | arisv | :) |
| 05:33.36 | locality | oh |
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| 05:34.01 | QWonder | you have to edit the sudoers file to add yourself to it, and give yourself access to everything |
| 05:34.02 | QWonder | but |
| 05:34.08 | QWonder | it would just be easier to su |
| 05:34.13 | QWonder | if you don't care to learn how to do that |
| 05:34.27 | QWonder | actually, with the sudoers file you can limit what exactly you can do |
| 05:34.32 | QWonder | man sudoers |
| 05:34.41 | locality | i shall man sudoers |
| 05:34.42 | locality | thanks |
| 05:34.44 | Pulpie | what is the lame mp3 encoding package name in the repo? |
| 05:35.10 | peterS | Pulpie: there is no lame in the repository. debian cannot afford to pay the patent royalties for mp3 encoding |
| 05:35.32 | Pulpie | peterS: its a free encoder... |
| 05:35.43 | peterS | Pulpie: yes, free if you are not afraid of patent lawsuits |
| 05:35.59 | Pulpie | its to create mp3's not crack them |
| 05:36.16 | QWonder | there is no such thing as cracking mp3s |
| 05:36.17 | peterS | Pulpie: I know. it is still patented technology, and Debian can't afford the risk of being sued for distributing it |
| 05:36.34 | batcoder-7 | who here knows about file formats like iso bin etc? |
| 05:37.12 | icemang_ | batcoder-7: please be more specific |
| 05:37.18 | kindofabuzz | use .ogg not .mp3, .ogg is free |
| 05:37.20 | Pulpie | peterS: so how am i suppose to use audacity to create mp3's? |
| 05:37.23 | batcoder-7 | what file format does not require cue sheets? |
| 05:37.39 | icemang_ | iso operates without cue sheets |
| 05:37.43 | Pulpie | .mp3 is in fact free to create |
| 05:37.46 | jair | does anyone here use mdadm on debian 5.0 lenny? I just finished configuring a raid1 in two disks 640GB SATA drives, but when I was checking the configuration of the "/etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf" I saw a line like => spares=1 |
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| 05:37.51 | peterS | Pulpie: I don't know. you can go to www.debian-multimedia.org, run by one Christian Marillat who apparently is not so afraid of breaking patent laws |
| 05:38.00 | peterS | Pulpie: he hosts a lot of warez including lame |
| 05:38.01 | arisv_ | anyone saw my link? |
| 05:38.03 | arisv_ | any ideas? |
| 05:38.05 | jair | is this a good channel to talk about this or should i search in #mdadm |
| 05:38.11 | Pulpie | peterS: its not a ware |
| 05:38.30 | kindofabuzz | what's the .deb gui installer called? |
| 05:38.36 | peterS | Pulpie: depends on whether you consider software that cannot be legally distributed in many countries to be warez |
| 05:38.42 | QWonder | Pulpie, MP3 is patented, any mp3 player you have PAYS REAL MONEY to license the right to use the codec. if you want, you can compile and install LAME yourself |
| 05:38.44 | QWonder | it's not hard |
| 05:38.45 | arisv_ | http://www.nabble.com/tp-link-WN322G-td21524214.html (this zd_rf.c exists in debian? I can't find it.) |
| 05:39.29 | kindofabuzz | Pulpie, why not just create .off files and not even worry about it? |
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| 05:39.33 | kindofabuzz | .ogg* |
| 05:39.47 | jair | to talk about mdadm and debian lenny 5.0 should i look for a channel specific for mdadm or I can talk about it here since is debian lenny? |
| 05:40.09 | peterS | well, and LAME is probably fine to use if you are willing to contact Fraunhofer and ask how much money they want for the patent license |
| 05:40.22 | jair | anyway here is the configuration I had before ===> http://rafb.net/p/Cmb9xu38.html |
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| 05:40.28 | Pulpie | kindofabuzz: because I use an mp3 player |
| 05:40.48 | QWonder | Pulpie: what make and model? it probably plays other formats as well |
| 05:41.01 | icemang_ | just use WAV |
| 05:41.03 | icemang_ | WAV is free |
| 05:41.08 | icemang_ | and everything can play it |
| 05:41.12 | QWonder | lol |
| 05:41.15 | jair | but I cleaned up and now looks like this ==> http://rafb.net/p/xgnXm122.html |
| 05:41.27 | kindofabuzz | Pulpie, get an .ogg player =) |
| 05:41.43 | arisv_ | someone? |
| 05:41.47 | icemang_ | pulpie, PM me, i can sell you a nice rockbox platform for an agreeable price. |
| 05:41.53 | Pulpie | ... |
| 05:41.55 | jair | I do not know if i should it leave the line paramenter "spares=1" |
| 05:41.55 | Pulpie | no thanks |
| 05:42.17 | QWonder | Pulpie: who makes your mp3 player? is it an iPod? a Zune? |
| 05:42.21 | kindofabuzz | .ogg is better quality and smaller size than mp3, and no royalties i don't know why all players don't support it |
| 05:42.27 | locality | im getting some missign dependencies when i try running this opera. is there a way to automaticaly get the dpkg to install those deps ? |
| 05:42.37 | QWonder | i don't know either, i wish my car stereo played flac |
| 05:42.40 | kindofabuzz | !.deb |
| 05:42.40 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, .deb is a debian package, or an ar archive containing control.tar.gz (debian stuff) and data.tar.gz (the files) |
| 05:43.10 | locality | yes well |
| 05:43.13 | kindofabuzz | what is the app to install .deb's? yes i know i can dpkg -i |
| 05:43.27 | locality | well yeah. i did that kindofabuzz |
| 05:43.37 | craigevil | locality: you can use the opera repo and use aptitude/apt to install it |
| 05:43.46 | kindofabuzz | ? i was asking a question, wasn't answering you |
| 05:43.55 | craigevil | or use gdebi, it installs the needed depends |
| 05:44.36 | kindofabuzz | that's it! gdebi =) |
| 05:45.02 | locality | there is no such package! |
| 05:45.24 | locality | im just gonnna use aptitude to get this gdebi :) |
| 05:45.35 | kindofabuzz | well yeah, you have to install it |
| 05:46.18 | TCW | so... now gnome-session with vncserver then... |
| 05:46.23 | TCW | s/now/no/ |
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| 05:48.15 | kindofabuzz | hmm installe gdebi, i open a deb, hit install and it does nothing |
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| 05:50.38 | locality | its working :) |
| 05:50.45 | kindofabuzz | mine isn't |
| 05:52.08 | locality | whats the message? |
| 05:54.04 | locality | i dont seem to have the georgia fonts on here |
| 05:54.05 | locality | heh. |
| 05:54.42 | kindofabuzz | no message |
| 05:55.00 | kindofabuzz | i hit install package and it dissappears |
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| 05:55.46 | batcoder-7 | what is the best way to do a bin/cue to a img? |
| 05:56.01 | kindofabuzz | oh debian gives you an error message in panel, nice |
| 05:56.35 | kindofabuzz | hmm software index is broken, how'd that happen? fresh install |
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| 05:59.28 | kindofabuzz | oh i tried to install an ubuntu .deb, i guess that's why. i forgot it was |
| 05:59.32 | batcoder-7 | how can i have a raw dump of a cd? |
| 05:59.47 | batcoder-7 | i want one file with multiple tracks |
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| 06:02.21 | arisv_ | can I ask something? zd_rf.c in drivers/net/wireless/zd1211rw/ exists in slackware, but not in debian. why? |
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| 06:05.20 | sepult | it's a mess to get kde4 with pinning... |
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| 06:07.48 | ZeuZ | Anybody here using lighttpd? |
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| 06:14.14 | dondelelcaro | !anyone use |
| 06:14.14 | dpkg | No, no one uses it, not even the people who use it. |
| 06:15.50 | ZeuZ | I thought someone would actually hit me with that |
| 06:15.54 | ZeuZ | My trouble is: |
| 06:16.21 | ZeuZ | Even though dir-listing.activate = "disable" is in EOF of /etc/lighttpd/lighttpd.conf, it still shows me the directory listed |
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| 06:16.34 | ZeuZ | my whole /var/www is behing listed even though I've hardset it to not do it |
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| 06:18.13 | ZeuZ | my current config file is: http://pastebin.com/f1770f604 |
| 06:18.21 | ZeuZ | Anyone to give me a hint on what's going on? |
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| 06:18.56 | initq | hello |
| 06:18.59 | initq | how are things then |
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| 06:55.55 | ZeuZ | argh |
| 06:56.16 | ZeuZ | MySQL will fail misserably when trying to start the service up, /var/log/mysql.log and .error says nothing |
| 06:56.20 | ZeuZ | any ideas? |
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| 06:56.57 | dondelelcaro | ZeuZ: fails miserably how? |
| 06:57.26 | ZeuZ | just says failed when I call the init script |
| 06:57.46 | ZeuZ | like this: |
| 06:57.46 | ZeuZ | Starting MySQL database server: mysqld . . . . . . . . . . . . . . failed! |
| 06:59.47 | dondelelcaro | ZeuZ: that means that for whatever reason either mysql didn't start, or the debiansysmaint user was unable to connect to the running mysql instance |
| 06:59.47 | Younix | i can't get my sources.list right for etch |
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| 07:00.33 | ZeuZ | dondelelcaro, that user should have been created when I installed mysql-common right? |
| 07:00.38 | ZeuZ | if not I'll just useradd it |
| 07:00.48 | ZeuZ | thing is: logs says nothing at all |
| 07:01.09 | dondelelcaro | ZeuZ: it's a mysql user. |
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| 07:01.26 | dondelelcaro | ZeuZ: is mysql actually running? |
| 07:01.42 | ZeuZ | no, it does not start at all |
| 07:02.01 | initq | start it from cli and see what's the error |
| 07:02.18 | dondelelcaro | ZeuZ: then run /usr/bin/mysqld_safe; and see what it says |
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| 07:02.52 | ZeuZ | apparently it went out fine, it started, then ended.- |
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| 07:03.45 | ZeuZ | that just kind of puzzles me more |
| 07:04.42 | dondelelcaro | well, it certainly won't end |
| 07:05.19 | ZeuZ | it did end |
| 07:05.22 | ZeuZ | wanna see the output? |
| 07:05.33 | ZeuZ | the process is not running either |
| 07:06.27 | ZeuZ | http://pastebin.com/d2c59186c |
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| 07:09.17 | ZeuZ | C'on, anyone? |
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| 07:12.28 | amberty | hello, does anyone know a bugfix or workaround to the log-check / amavisd bug ? ( http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=498659 ) |
| 07:12.50 | amberty | or at least how to disable any checks on amavis till this problem is solved |
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| 07:14.55 | kindofabuzz | offtopic but any networking gurus here? |
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| 07:17.26 | dondelelcaro | kindofabuzz: best to just ask your question |
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| 07:18.25 | kindofabuzz | it's offtopic, still cool? |
| 07:18.30 | kindofabuzz | nothing to do with linux |
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| 07:19.01 | scientes | shouldnt the system fake some fonts? |
| 07:19.09 | kindofabuzz | i just can't figure out why i can't use dhcp when connecting through a wireless bridge, i can set static just fine |
| 07:19.10 | amberty | kindofabuzz: if you wait 5 minutes ppl on channel will try to read your mind and see if it fits... |
| 07:19.21 | scientes | things on the net happen wierdly somtimes if you dont have ms core fonts |
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| 07:20.19 | icemang_ | kindofabuzz: mind-reading complete, I have notified child protection services. |
| 07:20.25 | amberty | kindofabuzz: static ips can be set regardless if u are connected to a network or not, that looks more like a dhcp server problem |
| 07:21.13 | johnakabean | hey guys how do I enable public ip passthrough while, on the same interface, retain a private ip address on the interface passing the wan ip to the lan? |
| 07:21.36 | amberty | kindofabuzz: make sure the dhcp service is working and also make sure your workstation has dhcp-client support |
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| 07:21.55 | kindofabuzz | amberty, right, i guess my bridge can't talk to the dhcp server or something |
| 07:22.11 | johnakabean | did you setup a scope, kind? |
| 07:22.21 | kindofabuzz | amberty, any distro i try to install can't get an ip through dhcp |
| 07:22.30 | kindofabuzz | scope? no |
| 07:22.37 | johnakabean | ......................... |
| 07:22.53 | amberty | kindofabuzz: it's more related to the filtering / forwarding / nat rules rather then a specific distro... |
| 07:23.07 | johnakabean | amberty, he/she hasn't set a scope |
| 07:23.11 | johnakabean | case closed |
| 07:23.15 | amberty | ... |
| 07:23.20 | kindofabuzz | thing is, it used to work, then it stopped somehow, i've checked both routers settings, of course the bridge dhcp is off be cause it goes to auto off when set to bridge |
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| 07:24.38 | ZeuZ | guess I'm just going to purge mysql and start again |
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| 07:25.38 | kindofabuzz | so scope? i guess i need to figure out what that was. i just don't see how it used to work then stopped all the sudden. scope goes on the bridge or the main? |
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| 07:48.27 | jerome | I jest installed lenny ppc on an imac g3. Works fine, once X setup. However, name resolution seems strange, as `host localhost` returns not found |
| 07:48.41 | jerome | localhost is 127.0.0.1 in /etc/hosts |
| 07:48.48 | jerome | and nsswtich.conf is |
| 07:48.50 | jerome | hosts: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4 |
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| 07:55.22 | jerome | OK, my first problem was that mpd was configured to listen on 127.0.0.1, default mpc fails with a connection refused on localhost ; however, setting MPD_HOST=127.0.0.1 makes it works ... |
| 07:55.44 | jerome | mpd may have some reverse resolving issues |
| 07:55.58 | crhomber | was anybody able to install Lenny on a SUN Blade 100 (sparc)? |
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| 08:01.32 | Gigantic | nmap detect an smtp running in my port 25... |
| 08:01.58 | Gigantic | and I am having problems to find out with netstat what is listening to that port.. |
| 08:02.09 | Gigantic | any other methd? |
| 08:02.56 | jerome | Gigantic: netstat -antp | grep 25 |
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| 08:03.47 | jerome | this is exim4 and this normal. You may dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config to change its settings and its relay policy. |
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| 08:04.09 | jerome | (how come you use nmap and can't read netstat!@#?) |
| 08:04.23 | Gigantic | I replaced exim for postfix... exim is not even installed |
| 08:04.26 | Gigantic | :p |
| 08:04.33 | Gigantic | I rarely use netstat |
| 08:04.50 | jerome | well it's postfix then :P |
| 08:05.02 | Gigantic | ah well.. tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:25 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 9661/master |
| 08:05.11 | Gigantic | at least it is only to localhost... |
| 08:05.20 | Gigantic | :) |
| 08:06.21 | jerome | master ... yes, postfix/postmaster ... |
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| 08:06.34 | Gigantic | it's good to see just two ports open in my Debian too.. |
| 08:06.38 | Gigantic | yup |
| 08:06.42 | sobersabre | hi all. |
| 08:06.46 | Gigantic | hi |
| 08:07.00 | Gigantic | Gosh a default install of suse had like 7 open ports |
| 08:07.02 | jerome | Gigantic: it means your box isn't doing much. |
| 08:07.25 | Gigantic | it means it doesn't do much for 'external' world :) |
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| 08:08.16 | Gigantic | ah btw... |
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| 08:08.37 | Gigantic | any way to remove the kde games from the default kde install? |
| 08:08.37 | jerome | I can't really remember if NFS (portmap/rpc) come from default install |
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| 08:08.41 | Gigantic | I dont need them |
| 08:08.53 | jerome | try apt-get remove them |
| 08:08.58 | Gigantic | jerome: in suse |
| 08:09.00 | Gigantic | ? |
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| 08:09.05 | Gigantic | no, they are part of kde |
| 08:09.09 | Gigantic | same with gnome games |
| 08:09.21 | jerome | it might uninstall the dummy "kde-desktop" meta package |
| 08:09.36 | dmajnem2 | what are the odds of bash4 being packaged for sid? |
| 08:09.39 | Gigantic | apt-get remove 'anygame' kde will be removed... continued? |
| 08:10.17 | jerome | don't know then, I don't really use these. |
| 08:10.43 | Gigantic | :) that's k I'll figure out later... ty for the netstat |
| 08:11.15 | jerome | That's the point with desktop environment. You use the components or you cope with them on your filisysytems. |
| 08:11.33 | jerome | wow, filesystems* |
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| 08:13.16 | Gipnotek | tell me please what lines are needed in /etc/apt/sources.list? for debian etch |
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| 08:14.47 | Gipnotek | are these enough? - http://www.nomorepasting.com/getpaste.php?pasteid=24497 |
| 08:15.04 | benley | you're missing the security.debian.org line |
| 08:15.25 | benley | no you're not. I'm stupid. |
| 08:15.26 | Gipnotek | benley, can you please give all lines? |
| 08:15.33 | Gipnotek | :) |
| 08:15.35 | Gipnotek | it's ok |
| 08:15.48 | benley | what you have should be fine. |
| 08:15.56 | Gipnotek | ok, thanks |
| 08:16.03 | alcohol | mornin' everyone |
| 08:16.17 | benley | thinks the flu is making his brain not work :( |
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| 08:51.29 | alwoan | I have installed phpmyadmin but can't find its icon in the kde menu. where should it be? |
| 08:52.12 | alcohol | lol |
| 08:52.17 | alcohol | it's a webinterface dude |
| 08:52.19 | zErOaCid | i'm not sure if you will get an icon for that |
| 08:52.20 | alcohol | not an application |
| 08:52.25 | alwoan | r u on alcohol? |
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| 08:52.37 | Rvec | try http://localhost/phpmyadmin |
| 08:53.29 | alwoan | Rvec: thks, i know that works. is that the only way to start it? |
| 08:53.52 | alcohol | start it? |
| 08:53.54 | alcohol | \o/ |
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| 08:54.08 | alcohol | you still don't understand the different between a web interface and an application? |
| 08:54.15 | alcohol | difference* |
| 08:54.38 | alwoan | alcohol: educate me. |
| 08:54.58 | alcohol | pma (phpmyadmin) is merely a collection of php pages, interpreted by your httpd |
| 08:55.02 | assasukasse | hi everyone, i have a problem with my laptop |
| 08:55.03 | alcohol | it's not an application |
| 08:55.06 | alcohol | it does not run by itself |
| 08:55.10 | assasukasse | when on battery power it refuses to do fsck |
| 08:55.11 | sobersabre | I'm trying to upgrade etch->lenny on an ia64 machine. |
| 08:55.19 | assasukasse | and the result is that sometime mounts a dirty FS. |
| 08:55.28 | assasukasse | how can i address this to have ALWAYS a fsck at bootup |
| 08:55.31 | sobersabre | all the packages have successfully upgraded, except the kernel: |
| 08:55.36 | sobersabre | elilo stuck on run. |
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| 08:56.04 | alcohol | sobersabre: try the windows approach o: |
| 08:56.24 | sobersabre | alcohol: which is... ? |
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| 08:56.28 | alcohol | format, clean install |
| 08:56.42 | bolt-work | er. |
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| 08:56.53 | sobersabre | alcohol: stop drinking. alcohol destroys your brain cells. |
| 08:57.09 | bolt-work | sobersabre: get any useful error messages? |
| 08:58.22 | sobersabre | bolt-work: I think there are Oops'es |
| 08:58.30 | sobersabre | but they are useful very relatively. |
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| 09:00.06 | _tty0 | hi ! |
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| 09:01.00 | bolt-work | HELO |
| 09:01.10 | debian_noob | Hi |
| 09:01.30 | _tty0 | hi debian_noob |
| 09:01.34 | debian_noob | Can anybody tell me how to mark a disk as bootable using fdisk? |
| 09:01.52 | _tty0 | you need read the man of fdisk first |
| 09:01.58 | debian_noob | I did |
| 09:02.02 | OpenTokix | debian_noob: use cfdisk |
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| 09:02.18 | sobersabre | debian_noob: there's "online" help in fdisk. |
| 09:02.19 | debian_noob | Theres no such thing as a bootable option in fdisk |
| 09:02.28 | sobersabre | I think it's typing "help" keyword |
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| 09:02.46 | sobersabre | sorry, it's "m" |
| 09:02.50 | debian_noob | opentokix:Are you sure that cfdisk will work? |
| 09:02.51 | sobersabre | (for menu) |
| 09:03.03 | OpenTokix | debian_noob: yes |
| 09:03.14 | sobersabre | OpenTokix: if it's available.... |
| 09:03.14 | OpenTokix | debian_noob: I used it just exactly now in a terminal beside this one. |
| 09:03.14 | _tty0 | sorry but my english is bad and i can't help to a user here |
| 09:03.26 | OpenTokix | sobersabre: One can assume he isn't using a debian-system from 97 |
| 09:03.30 | _tty0 | only i can speak spanish well :( |
| 09:03.38 | OpenTokix | sobersabre: cfdisk have been standard for atleast three releases |
| 09:03.45 | sobersabre | OpenTokix: I've got no idea, maybe he's using a live CD.... |
| 09:03.54 | sobersabre | who knows of what... |
| 09:03.58 | debian_noob | Actually i just set up a usb stick with syslinux and want to mark it as bootable |
| 09:04.10 | debian_noob | I am using debian sid |
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| 09:04.29 | sobersabre | sid ... is quite... old. isn't it ? |
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| 09:04.32 | OpenTokix | debian_noob: then you also have to install grub on it, I guess. - I did that a while back |
| 09:04.32 | debian_noob | no |
| 09:04.34 | OpenTokix | sobersabre: no, sid is unstable - bleeding edge, like ubuntu |
| 09:04.41 | OpenTokix | =) |
| 09:04.41 | debian_noob | thats what |
| 09:04.45 | _tty0 | 6:04 am in Argentina :) |
| 09:04.49 | sobersabre | OpenTokix: I remember sid was "sid" like 5-6 years ago... |
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| 09:04.56 | OpenTokix | debian_noob: Try cfdisk /dev/usbstickdevice |
| 09:05.01 | OpenTokix | sobersabre: sid is always sid |
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| 09:05.15 | OpenTokix | sobersabre: sid is always unstable branch |
| 09:05.18 | sobersabre | I thought this name was drifting back. and since I'm not running sid, I had no idea it's a moving name :) |
| 09:05.18 | OpenTokix | etc. |
| 09:05.24 | OpenTokix | =) |
| 09:05.27 | sobersabre | ok. then cfdisk it is. |
| 09:05.31 | OpenTokix | im running sid on my home-machine |
| 09:05.36 | debian_noob | done |
| 09:05.44 | sobersabre | debian_noob: way to g0. |
| 09:05.52 | OpenTokix | Ran it on my work-machine for a couple of years, had like 10 or so broken packages for 2 years |
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| 09:06.01 | OpenTokix | <3 debian |
| 09:06.20 | debian_noob | opentokix:how am i gonna install grub on it???grub-install /dev/sdb?? |
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| 09:06.45 | OpenTokix | debian_noob: It's a little fiddly |
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| 09:06.54 | OpenTokix | debian_noob: Try to find a howto - Im not 100% sure |
| 09:07.02 | OpenTokix | debian_noob: I was messing around ALOT with it |
| 09:07.11 | OpenTokix | debian_noob: why are you using a usb-stick in the first place? |
| 09:07.12 | debian_noob | opentokix:isnt it supposed to boot automatically? |
| 09:07.15 | sobersabre | debian_noob: I am not sure you really need grUB |
| 09:07.28 | debian_noob | opentokix:sobersabre is right |
| 09:07.34 | OpenTokix | ok |
| 09:07.57 | sobersabre | you would need grub if you wanted to boot a hard disk or other methods. |
| 09:08.12 | sobersabre | you can try... if that doesn't work - get back to the games. |
| 09:08.18 | debian_noob | opentokix:experimenting and lack of CDs.im feeling too lazy to go and buy a CD |
| 09:08.28 | OpenTokix | oki |
| 09:08.39 | debian_noob | im checking it now |
| 09:08.43 | debian_noob | Bye |
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| 09:12.17 | debian_noob | It didnt work |
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| 09:12.54 | debian_noob | Do i have to extract the .iso file onto the usb stick or just copy it?? |
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| 09:13.15 | sobersabre | debian_noob: what exactly are you trying to do ? |
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| 09:13.30 | debian_noob | run the debian installer from usb stick |
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| 09:13.32 | sobersabre | i.e. to achieve. |
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| 09:13.54 | sobersabre | you mean so you can install debian off a flash disk. |
| 09:13.59 | debian_noob | right |
| 09:14.01 | sobersabre | ok. |
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| 09:14.12 | sobersabre | what instructions are you following ? (linke would be nice) |
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| 09:14.41 | debian_noob | sobersabre:actually someody on this channel helped me yesterday |
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| 09:15.03 | debian_noob | sobersabre:ill tell you the steps |
| 09:15.11 | SubStack | no matter what I try, I keep getting integrity errors with aptitude update |
| 09:15.20 | eggy_ | Hello, I have a problem with dpkg after interrupting apt-get, I'm not sure how to solve it. http://paste.pocoo.org/show/105146/ |
| 09:15.40 | SubStack | not behind a proxy, and this laptop is on the same network running lenny just fine |
| 09:16.22 | dondelelcaro | eggy_: that really shouldn't happen; what is the output of apt-cache policy kdebase-runtime-data kdelibs5-data; ? |
| 09:16.29 | debian_noob | sobersabre:download the vmlinuz,initrd.gz and boot.img.gz |
| 09:16.41 | debian_noob | sobersabre:run mkdosfs /dev/sdb1 |
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| 09:16.47 | SubStack | this other system is also running lenny |
| 09:16.59 | debian_noob | sobersabre:extract the boot.img file |
| 09:17.00 | dondelelcaro | eggy_: once you've produced that output, /msg dpkg force overwrite; and follow those instructions |
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| 09:17.07 | eggy_ | dondelelcaro: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/105147/ |
| 09:17.12 | eggy_ | dondelelcaro: ok |
| 09:17.36 | debian_noob | sobersabre:copy the vmlinuz and initrd.gz to the usb drive(FAT16 FS) |
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| 09:17.49 | debian_noob | sobersabre:mount the boot.img |
| 09:17.50 | dondelelcaro | eggy_: ok, you're mixing patches from experimental with packages from lenny. That's almost guaranteed to be broken |
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| 09:18.14 | debian_noob | sobersabre:copy the contents of boot.img onto the drive |
| 09:18.31 | debian_noob | sobersabre:copy the iso file onto the drive |
| 09:18.32 | eggy_ | dondelelcaro: yeah, I used to run experimental, but I wanted to go back to lenny, I removed some packages but I probably missed a lot |
| 09:18.40 | dondelelcaro | eggy_: downgrade the packages which you've installed from experimental to the version that is actually present in lenny |
| 09:18.45 | eggy_ | dondelelcaro: should I go back entirely to lenny first? If so, how? |
| 09:18.48 | debian_noob | sobersabre:run syslinux /dev/sdb1 |
| 09:19.01 | debian_noob | sobersabre:mark the disk as bootable |
| 09:19.03 | eggy_ | dondelelcaro: do I have to find every package manually? |
| 09:19.07 | debian_noob | sobersabre:THE END |
| 09:19.09 | rpaulson | does anyone know why the php extension bcompiler no longer works in lenny? it worked fine in etch |
| 09:19.20 | debian_noob | sobersabre:Anything gone wrong? |
| 09:20.16 | debian_noob | ?? |
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| 09:21.02 | bolt-work | !tell rpaulson about doesn't work |
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| 09:21.10 | Haris1 | Hello people |
| 09:21.12 | bolt-work | fight club reference btw? |
| 09:21.22 | Haris1 | how do I add mod dav svn to apache22 on etch ? |
| 09:21.25 | sobersabre | debian_noob: why don't you follow an instructions set off the internet. |
| 09:21.34 | sobersabre | I mean, for example from debian website. |
| 09:21.39 | Haris1 | can't find a clue in apt-cache search dav output |
| 09:21.39 | eggy_ | dondelelcaro: the problem is, I installed quite some packages from experimental, and I don't remember which exactly. So how can I locate them? |
| 09:21.44 | Haris1 | !dav |
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| 09:21.47 | Haris1 | hmm |
| 09:21.54 | Haris1 | !moddav |
| 09:21.56 | debian_noob | sobersabre:human resource is more reliable than saved data |
| 09:22.12 | rpaulson | bolt-work: sorry, it makes apache2 display the following error in error.log: child pid 15335 exit signal Segmentation fault (11) |
| 09:23.24 | debian_noob | sobersabre:do you know anywhere i could have gone wrong? |
| 09:23.40 | dondelelcaro | eggy_: aptitude search '?narrow(?installed,?archive(experimental))'; are the packages from experimental |
| 09:23.44 | bolt-work | his name is robert paulson |
| 09:23.45 | rpaulson | and apache2 displays an empty document |
| 09:24.05 | eggy_ | dondelelcaro: ok, that gives zero packages |
| 09:24.10 | bolt-work | in death, a member of project mayhem has a name |
| 09:24.28 | rpaulson | indeed. |
| 09:24.38 | rpaulson | but I'm still here :P |
| 09:24.49 | eggy_ | dondelelcaro: I removed the experimental entries from my sources.list, perhaps that matters? |
| 09:24.56 | Haris1 | how do I add mod dav svn to apache22 on etch ? |
| 09:25.03 | eggy_ | dondelelcaro: should I reenter them and run apt-get update? |
| 09:26.10 | dondelelcaro | eggy_: assuming they're still avilable. If they're no longer available, then you'll have to run something like aptitude search '?narrow(?installed,!?origin(Debian))'; |
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| 09:27.32 | eggy_ | dondelelcaro: ah, I'm finding quite a few packages now. How do I downgrade them? Remove and install? Because I see 'apt' and 'apt-utils' in there, so I'm not sure that would be a safe thing to do |
| 09:28.47 | dondelelcaro | eggy_: best to do it manually, actually. |
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| 09:28.59 | Haris1 | !libapache-mod-dav |
| 09:29.02 | Haris1 | hmm |
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| 09:29.42 | eggy_ | dondelelcaro: where manually means remove/install? |
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| 09:30.03 | dondelelcaro | eggy_: no, where manually means aptitude install foopkg=fooversioninlenny |
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| 09:30.44 | Haris1 | !info libapache2-svn |
| 09:30.47 | Haris1 | hmm |
| 09:31.04 | eggy_ | dondelelcaro: ah, ok |
| 09:31.09 | dpkg | libapache2-svn: (Subversion server modules for Apache), section net, is optional. Version: 1.5.1dfsg1-2 (sid), Packaged size: 142 kB, Installed size: 348 kB |
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| 09:37.24 | sobersabre | hmm.... |
| 09:37.44 | sobersabre | guys, what CAN go wrong on an ia64 (EFI based) system while running elilo ? |
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| 09:40.39 | jelly-home | plz donate an itanium and we'll test |
| 09:41.16 | Hoxzer | ^_^ |
| 09:41.31 | nareshov | :D |
| 09:41.47 | Hoxzer | :/ I find "Blackscreen when in virtual console" proplematic. :( |
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| 09:43.41 | eggy_ | dondelelcaro: thanks a lot, that helped fix it :) |
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| 09:53.57 | Haris1 | how do I implement multiple svn repos' on etch ? I'm setting up apache+svn |
| 09:54.04 | Haris1 | I'v setup one, the 2nd isn't working |
| 09:57.48 | frankS2 | how can i make FreeBSD executables with Debian? |
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| 10:00.27 | Haris1 | when I open the repo url in browser it asks for user/pass auth, then says -> [Tue Feb 24 14:59:03 2009] [error] [client 192.168.0.244] File does not exist: /htdocs |
| 10:00.31 | Haris1 | doesn't make sense |
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| 10:10.06 | simonrvn | frankS2: cross-compiler |
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| 10:12.16 | nomingzi | please advise me what program that can send and receive fax ? |
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| 10:13.28 | ComradeHaz | nomingzi: 'apt-cache search fax' |
| 10:13.43 | ComradeHaz | btw |
| 10:13.51 | ComradeHaz | can anyone get on gmail right now? |
| 10:14.04 | ComradeHaz | it seems to have died :D |
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| 10:14.16 | petemc | nomingzi: i use hylafax |
| 10:14.19 | maligor | google has died! |
| 10:14.24 | nomingzi | ComradeHaz: me too - gmail is not responding |
| 10:14.25 | Aron | ComradeHaz: having trouble also |
| 10:14.34 | ComradeHaz | :D |
| 10:14.36 | ComradeHaz | aweosme |
| 10:14.39 | ComradeHaz | *-o |
| 10:14.45 | nomingzi | petemc: thanks |
| 10:14.46 | ComradeHaz | where are you guys? |
| 10:15.08 | nomingzi | Malaysia |
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| 10:15.13 | Aron | Holland |
| 10:15.17 | ComradeHaz | UK :D |
| 10:15.18 | ComradeHaz | awesome |
| 10:15.23 | ComradeHaz | !praise google |
| 10:15.23 | dpkg | bows down before google. "You rock, google!" |
| 10:15.32 | ComradeHaz | lol wasn't expecting that |
| 10:15.45 | ComradeHaz | !praise google |
| 10:15.45 | dpkg | bows down before google. "Can I have your baby, google?" |
| 10:15.49 | ComradeHaz | :D |
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| 10:16.16 | maligor | it gives me Server Error |
| 10:16.40 | maligor | maybe I should take a screenshot, never seen before :P |
| 10:16.44 | tomodachi | doit |
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| 10:17.47 | zxd | is it just me or gmail is down |
| 10:18.11 | Aron | yeah it's down |
| 10:18.19 | zxd | nice |
| 10:18.27 | nomingzi | i was told my our local ISP - the international internet has some problem, today - probably this is the reason gmail down ("Server Error") |
| 10:18.41 | petemc | chap in another channel who works for google has acknowledged they know about it |
| 10:18.42 | zxd | what? |
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| 10:19.06 | zxd | someone is DoS it ? |
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| 10:22.33 | maligor | http://maligor.googlepages.com/Screenshot.png is what it gave me :P |
| 10:23.11 | ComradeHaz | same here maligor |
| 10:23.24 | nomingzi | maligor: same for me also |
| 10:23.25 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 10:23.48 | Aron | Quite amusing to watch: http://search.twitter.com/search?q=Gmail |
| 10:24.14 | ComradeHaz | loool |
| 10:24.16 | ComradeHaz | awesome |
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| 10:24.40 | ComradeHaz | omg |
| 10:24.49 | ComradeHaz | that's gonna drag twitter to it's knees :D |
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| 10:26.09 | ringo999 | if i changed my /etc/network/interfaces what is a command to reconnect the connection with the new conf? ifdown device; ifup device? I'm doing it on via ssh... |
| 10:26.34 | Haris1 | on etch |
| 10:26.51 | Haris1 | when I open svn repo in browser and give auth, what should be the result in case of successful auth? |
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| 10:28.06 | ComradeHaz | hmm |
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| 10:28.15 | simonrvn | ringo999: just make sure you're not doing something so that the connection will cut out on you ;) |
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| 10:28.26 | ComradeHaz | maybe sudo iceweasel http://www.gmail.com will work |
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| 10:28.41 | ComradeHaz | nope not even sudo can help me now :D |
| 10:28.54 | simonrvn | wtf would it? |
| 10:29.00 | ComradeHaz | it was a joke |
| 10:29.15 | simonrvn | ok :) |
| 10:29.17 | ComradeHaz | http://xkcd.com/149/ |
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| 10:29.35 | simonrvn | their bots work |
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| 10:30.29 | rdz | hi all. isn't there a SIGnal, that i can send to a 'cp' process, so that is shows its current progress? |
| 10:31.21 | simonrvn | man cp; if nothing in there, then no. |
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| 10:31.38 | rdz | simonrvn, ok.. probably it was dd.. not cp |
| 10:31.43 | rdz | simonrvn, but thanks |
| 10:31.56 | simonrvn | ok |
| 10:32.31 | rdz | simonrvn, but it would be a cool feature, wouldn't it? |
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| 10:32.48 | simonrvn | write a patch ;p |
| 10:33.11 | simonrvn | would probably be USR1 or 2 |
| 10:33.27 | rdz | aah.. thanks.. i'll simply test |
| 10:34.05 | simonrvn | no, i mean for the patch ;) |
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| 10:37.06 | simonrvn | the IMAP access is working, for gmail, FYI. |
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| 10:37.41 | henhir | Is it likely for some apps to not work on 64bit Linux? |
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| 10:38.58 | maligor | depends on the age of the app |
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| 10:39.28 | maligor | I think most are ported these days to work |
| 10:39.33 | Haris1 | anyone on svn? |
| 10:39.38 | Haris1 | svn+apache22 |
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| 10:41.41 | simonrvn | Haris1: you should see the repo's files |
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| 10:41.57 | rdz | simonrvn, it works with dd.. with SIGUSR1.. but unfortunately not with cp |
| 10:42.16 | simonrvn | neat |
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| 10:43.16 | sephii | Hello everybody. I recently installed lenny, everything works fine except gdm : the default screen resolution is wrong (1280x800 instead of 1024x768) so I don't see anything. I already changed the resolution in the System > Preferences menu but I don't know how to change the resolution of gdm, any idea ? Thanks !! |
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| 10:44.20 | simonrvn | gdm uses the x server's res. ... |
| 10:44.48 | sephii | simonrvn: But the X server now uses automatic configuration right ? And the automatic resolution is wrong |
| 10:44.54 | henhir | Is it possible to switch from 64 to 32 without full reinstall? |
| 10:45.16 | simonrvn | so set one |
| 10:45.18 | maligor | henhir, no |
| 10:45.46 | sephii | simonrvn: Using a "Section Display" directive in xorg.conf ? |
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| 10:46.14 | simonrvn | innit "Screen"? either way, yup. |
| 10:46.32 | sephii | simonrvn: Alright thanks ! |
| 10:46.37 | maligor | henhir, if you intend to run 32bit non-free software, you'll probably find 32bit easier to handle |
| 10:46.57 | enouf | henhir: could setup a chroot env for 32bit apps |
| 10:47.22 | henhir | how does that chroot work? |
| 10:47.24 | maligor | or you can run 32bit debian userland with 64bit kernel |
| 10:47.47 | enouf | henhir: is a 64bit debian installed already? |
| 10:47.50 | maligor | but that might be a bit annoying for some 3d driver modules :P |
| 10:47.54 | enouf | henhir: (amd64 arch) |
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| 10:48.45 | henhir | I basicaly just need to run eclipse or aptanastudio and the one shipped with lenny is too old for me. |
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| 10:49.52 | maligor | can't comment on aptanastudio, but eclipse provides 64bit tarballs iirc |
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| 10:50.20 | maligor | oh, it's a plugin to eclipse.. probably java then |
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| 10:50.53 | zmitya | hi all |
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| 10:51.29 | maligor | henhir, yeah, they have 64bit tarballs for linux, I've used them on debian amd64 |
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| 10:53.03 | maligor | infact I seem to have eclipse 3.4 installed in home |
| 10:53.18 | zmitya | I have a not really debian related question. if I have a sub.domain.tld domain. Do I need to set up MX record for this subdomain if I want to handle these mails separatedly from domain.tld ? |
| 10:54.04 | simonrvn | nah |
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| 10:54.33 | simonrvn | it'll (the resolver) look up the top level one (domain.tld) |
| 10:54.39 | simonrvn | !wb ChanServ |
| 10:54.39 | dpkg | O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay! ChanServ has returned! |
| 10:55.16 | zmitya | simonrvn: currently I don't have MX for the subdomain but the mails go there from my server and from google as well |
| 10:56.13 | simonrvn | yes, ok |
| 10:56.20 | petemc | zmitya: in the absence of a mx record, mail will be delivered to an A record |
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| 10:58.09 | zmitya | petemc: is it just a practice or is it specified in the RFC ? |
| 10:58.28 | simonrvn | rfc |
| 10:58.31 | cafuego | petemc: Unless there's a wildcard MX record on the TLD, i expect |
| 10:58.43 | petemc | mx has precedence |
| 10:58.54 | petemc | obviously.. |
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| 11:00.08 | cafuego | petemc: I mean, wldcard MX on the TL would override use of an A on the subdomain |
| 11:00.20 | petemc | i know what you meant |
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| 11:00.24 | zmitya | ok guys, thank you very much ! |
| 11:00.32 | zmitya | cafuego: good point anyway |
| 11:00.42 | zmitya | I will check that |
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| 11:06.32 | Kusucha | ËÁË ÓÍÏÔÒÅÔØ ÉÓÔÏÒÉÀ ÞÁÔÁ? |
| 11:07.11 | Kusucha | Ñ ÔÏÌØËÏ ÚÁÛÅÌ, É ÈÏÞÕ ÇÌÑÎÕÔØ ÎÁ ÐÏÓÌÅÄÎÉÅ 20 ÐÏÓÔÏ× ÄÏÐÕÓÔÉÍ |
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| 11:07.22 | Sertse | hi |
| 11:07.31 | Kusucha | hi |
| 11:07.42 | rahsputin | Hi! Is there a secure way of using sudo, since i have been told that it easyily by-passed from foriegn-users with the command $ sudo -u <username> ... |
| 11:07.58 | petemc | you can limit what sudo allows people to do |
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| 11:08.33 | Sertse | whats' the line for adjusting sudo timeout again? "Defaults user timestamp_timeout=0" but I think I got something wrong.. |
| 11:09.07 | rahsputin | ?? Sertse |
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| 11:09.11 | rahsputin | :) |
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| 11:09.53 | Sertse | I'm asking a question; not answering yours. heh. |
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| 11:15.07 | Haris1 | guys, do we have a paper/articles which shows a working example of multi-repo svn+apache setup ? |
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| 11:15.15 | Haris1 | artricle(s) |
| 11:16.07 | plsd | I use ssh for sftp only, is there a way of checking who's logged in, what the person is downloading and at which speed? |
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| 11:21.08 | Younix | test |
| 11:21.22 | cafuego | Failed |
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| 11:22.08 | Younix | obviously. |
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| 11:32.25 | Slartibartfast | hi does debian (with lenny) have now have unique identifiers in fstab for hd's ? |
| 11:32.41 | Slartibartfast | like UUID |
| 11:33.01 | jelly | Slartibartfast: even etch could have used them if you put them there |
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| 11:33.48 | Slartibartfast | having 3 hd's (2 ata & 1 sata) they always change from being sda sdb or sdc |
| 11:33.53 | jelly | Slartibartfast: or are you asking "does a lenny installation use UUID=... in fstab by default"? |
| 11:34.03 | Slartibartfast | yes |
| 11:34.20 | pif | http://tinyurl.com/ahbnfg |
| 11:34.20 | jelly | no, I don't think so |
| 11:34.24 | pif | sorry |
| 11:34.36 | Slartibartfast | because what is sda in the installer is most times not sda when i boot up the system |
| 11:35.12 | jelly | Slartibartfast: you can change your fstab manually. |
| 11:35.50 | Slartibartfast | yes ... and grub/menu.lst too ... but it should not be necessarry |
| 11:35.55 | enouf | and menu.lst |
| 11:36.14 | alcohol | Slartibartfast: why should it not be neccesary? |
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| 11:36.24 | alcohol | Slartibartfast: what do you propose then? |
| 11:36.33 | Slartibartfast | because otherwise the system won't boot, right ? .. |
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| 11:37.03 | alcohol | That doesn't answer my question in any way. |
| 11:37.30 | Slartibartfast | when the installer says to grub vmlinuz is on (hd0,6) but when booting the system it is on hd(1,6) |
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| 11:38.00 | alcohol | vmlinuz? |
| 11:38.06 | jelly | Slartibartfast: um... so where does grub get installed, if your disks change place? |
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| 11:39.07 | Slartibartfast | i already have had many times an grub error 15: because that disk order changes between what the installer reports / sees and what grub sees |
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| 11:39.51 | Slartibartfast | i know this is not fstab related but more how the system handles with hd's |
| 11:39.54 | jelly | Slartibartfast: you should report a bug for debian-installer. |
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| 11:40.16 | sobersabre | guys, is there a way to kick a dhcp client off the network ? |
| 11:40.23 | sobersabre | I mean via dhcpd |
| 11:40.26 | sobersabre | (v. 3) |
| 11:40.28 | jelly | Slartibartfast: also, try #debian-boot on irc.debian.org |
| 11:40.30 | jmd | Is there a tool to install icons in /usr/share/icons ? |
| 11:40.38 | sobersabre | jmd: yes: man cp |
| 11:40.41 | Slartibartfast | when the installer handle partions with unique identifiers then there would be no problem .. |
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| 11:41.03 | jmd | sobersabre, haha |
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| 11:41.17 | sobersabre | jmd: you may also use mv |
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| 11:42.07 | apostle | I installed Debian Lenny on a Server machine and the monitor won't display the Gnome properly...I'm getting out of range ....can someone help me with how to fix this setting....sounds like configuration....I tried to separate monitors |
| 11:42.18 | jmd | install would be better than either ... but still not very practical. |
| 11:43.02 | jmd | apostle, If it's a server machine, why do you need Gnome? In fact, why do you even *have* a display? |
| 11:43.31 | Slartibartfast | anyway i will try it out :-) .. and see what problems i will get |
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| 11:44.03 | apostle | we need to run wireshark from the server room to do some testing on a system that uses the server...still need a fix |
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| 11:44.34 | OpenTokix | sent itanium server to sobersabre; tube on internetroad 1; the internets |
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| 11:44.35 | jmd | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg should help you. |
| 11:45.18 | jmd | But you really shouldn't be running X on a server. Wireshark has a text interface I think. |
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| 11:46.15 | jmd | It's called tshark |
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| 11:46.37 | apostle | jmd thanks I tried that last night but it never asked me for a different resolution...just keyboard stuff....I will try again this morning |
| 11:46.52 | jmd | Run a serial line to your server and run your diagnostics on that. |
| 11:47.29 | jmd | There's even a kernel option for the console to be on a the serial port. |
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| 11:47.33 | jmd | The Grub console can be there too. |
| 11:47.54 | my007ms | how can i send mail in html format form my script when i try with mail command it's not working ? |
| 11:48.25 | jmd | my007ms, html is for web pages, not email. |
| 11:48.45 | my007ms | jmd mail send to some windows users ;) |
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| 11:49.05 | jmd | Even windows is capable of reading ascii. |
| 11:49.34 | OpenTokix | my007ms: Can't you pipe any text-file into the mail app? |
| 11:49.52 | my007ms | yes i can |
| 11:49.57 | mavez | fo/win 5 |
| 11:50.00 | mavez | oops |
| 11:51.14 | my007ms | i use something like this cat html | mail -s 'html mail' mail@host |
| 11:51.15 | OpenTokix | my007ms: you have to format the mail correctly |
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| 11:53.58 | my007ms | OpenTokix is there something i can to type in html before the normal html code ? |
| 11:54.15 | OpenTokix | my007ms: I think you have to send mime-type and stuff |
| 11:54.41 | OpenTokix | my007ms: I tried to google some, but I am doing some other stuff so I can dig into it. |
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| 12:01.57 | shafu | Hello, I`ve installed debian 5.0 from netinstall..how can I install gnome? aptitude install gnome doesnt find the package |
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| 12:03.01 | jmd | gnome-desktop-environment |
| 12:03.28 | stew | shafu: "aptitude install gnome" should work. perhaps you haven't yet added source to /etc/apt/sources.list: /msg dpkg source.list |
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| 12:06.09 | koan | shafu: you can also execute tasksel and select desktop |
| 12:06.42 | grull1 | hi, i have a usb modem connected but seems debian don't recognize it, how can i list the devices and see if it's recognized or not? |
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| 12:07.32 | zirimola | I can't login with NIS in the cilent?????????????? |
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| 12:07.50 | OpenTokix | zirimola: did you update /etc/nsswitch.conf? |
| 12:08.05 | zirimola | I have passwords with ypcat passwd |
| 12:08.08 | zirimola | yes |
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| 12:09.04 | zirimola | OpenTokix : maybe |
| 12:09.17 | zirimola | bOpenTokix: but can be other problem= |
| 12:09.18 | zirimola | ? |
| 12:09.35 | OpenTokix | zirimola: ofc. - it's nis - its short for "PRoblems" |
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| 12:10.51 | zirimola | I have shadow passwords? |
| 12:11.04 | OpenTokix | passwd, group and shadow |
| 12:11.10 | OpenTokix | should say: nis files compat |
| 12:11.20 | OpenTokix | ie: passwd: nis files compat |
| 12:11.29 | zirimola | only compat |
| 12:11.51 | zirimola | passwd: compat group: compat shadow: compat |
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| 12:16.27 | grull1 | hi, debian is detecting my usb internet modem, but it seems is not configured yet, how can i do this? |
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| 12:17.21 | OpenTokix | zirimola: add nis |
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| 12:29.27 | zrin | where should the TEMP variable be set? |
| 12:29.40 | zrin | ... and what might cause it to dissapear? |
| 12:30.02 | Paul-WebWare | hello guys, i've updated to lenny and trying to update "Trac (project managment python script)" when i use apt-get upgrade trac it dosnt actually do anything, but when i do apt-get install trac apt gets the dependancys etc and asks if i want to carry on... my question is if apt-get upgrade trac isnt working would apt-get install trac just do a fresh install rather than upgrading? |
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| 12:30.34 | jmd | zrin, You can set it where you like. It'll disappear when the context in which it was set goes out of scope. |
| 12:30.51 | stew | Paul-WebWare: upgrade doesn't take a package name as an argument, it upgrades every package which can be upgraded without installing new packages or removing packages. 'install' means 'install or upgrade' |
| 12:31.41 | Paul-WebWare | cool, thank you stew. in that case have i got a problem with the system if it dosnt reckonise the update to trac? |
| 12:31.58 | stew | Paul-WebWare: show us the output of "apt-cache policy trac" ; use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
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| 12:34.16 | Paul-WebWare | done, but came back with dont know what the hell your talkin about :) |
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| 12:34.50 | themill | dpkg: tell Paul-WebWare about pastebin |
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| 12:38.07 | Paul-WebWare | dpkg... came back with no idea paul webware.... |
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| 12:38.39 | zrin | jmd: I mean for the whole system |
| 12:39.09 | stew | Paul-WebWare: please run "apt-cache policy trac" and paste the output to http://paste.debian.net then give us the resulting URL |
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| 12:39.54 | Paul-WebWare | http://paste.debian.net/29090/ |
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| 12:40.39 | stew | Paul-WebWare: and what happens when you run "apt-get install trac" ? |
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| 12:41.30 | Paul-WebWare | it runs without error resloves dependacys and ask's if i want to carry on... (at the time i dint know apt-get upgrade did not do single packages) |
| 12:41.31 | grull1 | hi, debian is detecting my usb internet modem, but it seems is not configured yet, how can i do this? |
| 12:42.03 | stew | Paul-WebWare: so, I don't understand what the problem is, then |
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| 12:43.05 | stew | Paul-WebWare: except that you think you've upgraded to lenny, when you haven't yet. or at least you haven't finished yet; "/msg dpkg etch->lenny" and see chapter 4 of the release notes for the upgrade instructions |
| 12:43.12 | SlayerXP | any nfs clues in? how do I persuade nlockmgr to listen on UDP as well as TCP? the only way I've found to do so it to start nfs-kernel-server and then stop it again. |
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| 12:44.18 | jmd | zrin, It would be pointless to set an environment variable for the whole system. The entire point of them is that they have limited scope. |
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| 12:44.48 | Paul-WebWare | needed to check to make sure apt-get install wouldnt just install a fresh copy overriding the current installation, i thought apt-get install would need a extra flag if it wasnt apt-get upgrade trac... but yeah thanks stew best to check before than ask for help after :) |
| 12:44.55 | jmd | zrin, I mean if it was the same on across the whole system, then it wouldn't be a variable, would it? |
| 12:45.04 | Paul-WebWare | thanks stew :) |
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| 12:45.44 | Paul-WebWare | msg dpkg etch->lenny |
| 12:46.12 | zrin | jmd: are we talking about the same environment / shell variable TEMP, like in TEMP=/tmp ? like in HOSTNAME=myserver? |
| 12:46.16 | grull1 | how much do i have to pay for someone to help me :) |
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| 12:47.00 | tomodachi | grull1: if its something easy i can help you, for free |
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| 12:47.15 | grull1 | tomodachi ok |
| 12:47.20 | grull1 | debian is detecting my usb internet modem, but it seems is not configured yet, how can i do this? |
| 12:47.22 | jmd | HOSTNAME is a posix thing. I've never seen TEMP except in DOS |
| 12:47.47 | tomodachi | grull1: arh :) i started using debian 6 years ago, that was after i stopped using modems :) |
| 12:47.47 | jmd | and HOSTNAME can change (although it typically doesn't) |
| 12:47.54 | tomodachi | grull1: i wont be much of help to you |
| 12:48.22 | jmd | grull1, Isn't there a USB Howto? |
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| 12:48.30 | zrin | jmd: I think there should be a global, default TEMP which can be altered when necessary... it seems that mutt can't figure out where to put temp files without TEMP (or TMP?) |
| 12:48.56 | grull1 | tomodachi is not a 56k modem. it's a internet modem, DHCP modem with a usb and a ethernet entry |
| 12:49.01 | jmd | mutt works fine for me, and I don't have either of those. |
| 12:49.16 | grull1 | jmd could you link me please :) |
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| 12:49.30 | tomodachi | grull1: ok :) still i cant really help you, no experience with that kind of equipment |
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| 12:52.02 | jmd | zrin, The tmpfile(3) function has been standard for many years. |
| 12:52.30 | jmd | grull1, Try googling for Linux HOWTO USB |
| 12:52.42 | zrin | jmd: i see - thank you! |
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| 12:54.13 | grull1 | ok, but seems incredible that DSLinux got it working right on the first boot, and debian is unable to do so? i mean it detcts it, but i guess i have to configure it |
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| 13:09.05 | Iradieh__ | Does anyone know how to make a .torrent file out of a folder (Only CLI), and how to do it for a private tracker |
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| 13:09.57 | nareshov | Iradieh__: tried bittornado? |
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| 13:10.06 | Iradieh__ | nareshov: Is it through CLI? |
| 13:10.14 | nareshov | ya |
| 13:10.21 | Iradieh__ | and can you make private torrents for private trackers? |
| 13:11.18 | nareshov | http://www.linux.gr/cgi-bin/man/man2html?btmakemetafile+1 - check.. |
| 13:11.27 | Iradieh__ | Thanks hun |
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| 13:11.36 | nareshov | hm |
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| 13:12.25 | Iradieh__ | But |
| 13:12.30 | Iradieh__ | I dont think that one can make for private trackers |
| 13:12.35 | Iradieh__ | that keeps track of seedratio and etc.. |
| 13:12.39 | Iradieh__ | It's more for public trackers |
| 13:12.41 | Iradieh__ | Thanks anyway |
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| 13:16.00 | Aron | anyone clue how I'd install apache2-dbg on debian etch through apt? It does not appear in the package list and I need to debug my apache2 |
| 13:16.09 | Iradieh__ | Aron: -dbg? |
| 13:16.11 | Iradieh__ | oh |
| 13:16.13 | Iradieh__ | debug |
| 13:16.25 | Aron | yeah |
| 13:16.38 | Iradieh__ | ~/Courses$ sudo apt-cache search apache2-dbg |
| 13:16.39 | Iradieh__ | apache2-dbg - Apache debugging symbols |
| 13:16.50 | Iradieh__ | Hmm |
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| 13:16.52 | Aron | It does not show for me :( |
| 13:16.52 | Iradieh__ | I am running Deb 5 |
| 13:16.56 | Iradieh__ | try adding the repositoy |
| 13:16.57 | Iradieh__ | or |
| 13:16.59 | Iradieh__ | sudo apt-get update |
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| 13:17.28 | Aron | Running deb 4 here |
| 13:17.28 | Aron | aron@boson:~$ sudo apt-cache search dbg | grep apache |
| 13:17.28 | Aron | apache-dbg - debug versions of the Apache webservers |
| 13:17.36 | themill | judd: versions apache2-dbg |
| 13:17.40 | judd | themill: apache2-dbg -- lenny: 2.2.9-10+lenny2 sid: 2.2.11-2 squeeze: 2.2.11-2 |
| 13:17.46 | themill | Aron: ^^ not in etch. |
| 13:17.50 | Aron | argh... |
| 13:17.53 | nareshov | Iradieh__: i've used this btmakemetafile for private trackers before and ratio was maintained on the tracker site |
| 13:18.00 | Aron | Seems I'm screwed then |
| 13:18.13 | Iradieh__ | nareshov: Ah, I see :) thanks, Gonna check it out more closely then, it didnt say much on the "man" |
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| 13:20.04 | Aron | Are there any common pitfalls when upgrading from etch to lenny through aptitude? It seems this is the only option I have, but I'm somewhat afraid to break the entire server :) |
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| 13:21.00 | jelly | judd: versions apache2-dbg |
| 13:21.00 | judd | jelly: apache2-dbg -- lenny: 2.2.9-10+lenny2 sid: 2.2.11-2 squeeze: 2.2.11-2 |
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| 13:21.53 | nkuttler | Aron: run stable on servers |
| 13:21.59 | tacit | Hi, I wrote a script to turn a set of DVD isos into an apt repository to install from. Where would I share this script? |
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| 13:22.16 | Aron | nkuttler: Yeah it seems like the right way to go, hence my question :) |
| 13:22.24 | petemc | tacit: debian wiki perhaps |
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| 13:24.03 | sylarr | so... |
| 13:24.09 | sylarr | how is lenny? |
| 13:24.38 | nkuttler | Aron: last time i ran testing it was worse than unstable... but that's years ago |
| 13:25.31 | stew | sylarr: it's the best debian yet |
| 13:25.58 | sylarr | does the upgrade work ok from etch? |
| 13:26.09 | sylarr | (I saw once a bug about that) |
| 13:26.18 | stew | sylarr: /msg dpkg etch->lenny |
| 13:26.25 | sylarr | ok |
| 13:26.28 | sylarr | thanks stew |
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| 13:26.36 | sylarr | I can't wait to upgrade |
| 13:26.39 | stew | sylarr: if you follow the recommended procedure it should be fine |
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| 13:29.15 | simonrvn | mine would've be ok if i didn't have a bad symlink in /lib |
| 13:29.20 | simonrvn | been* |
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| 13:29.33 | simonrvn | hadn't had... sheesh |
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| 13:32.23 | ribasushi | what is the rationale to have two groups of user/group ids: system and otherwise? |
| 13:32.33 | ribasushi | what is special about a system user or a system group? |
| 13:33.13 | pif | ribasushi: systems user don't login, for one |
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| 13:34.06 | ribasushi | but they don't login because of a false shell, not because of the UID |
| 13:34.12 | ribasushi | right? |
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| 13:35.40 | frankS2 | simonrvn: where can i get a cross compiler? and how do i install it? |
| 13:36.12 | simonrvn | does dpkg-cross still exist? |
| 13:36.23 | simonrvn | judd: versions dpkg-cross |
| 13:36.24 | judd | simonrvn: dpkg-cross -- etch: 1.32 lenny: 2.3.0.1 sid: 2.3.0.1 squeeze: 2.3.0.1 sid: 2.4.0 |
| 13:36.28 | simonrvn | O_O |
| 13:36.43 | simonrvn | that's how -- use that |
| 13:36.48 | frankS2 | yea i found it |
| 13:36.51 | frankS2 | how can i set it up? |
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| 13:37.09 | simonrvn | though i'm not too sure if that'll handle fbsd... check it out nonetheless |
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| 13:37.36 | simonrvn | to tell you is too long to describe on irc, tbh |
| 13:38.06 | frankS2 | heh ok |
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| 13:42.16 | usr13_ | I just did Lenny net-install but was unable to set up apt sources and just finished up the base install and rebooted. How do I now set up apt sources? (Not sure what the initial problem was because the internet connection was / is there.) |
| 13:42.40 | simonrvn | !mirrors |
| 13:42.41 | dpkg | somebody said debian mirrors was http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt | ask me about <apt-spy> or <netselect-apt> | to make a mirror, see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ or http://lists.debian.org/debian-mirrors/ |
| 13:42.45 | usr13_ | I tried several times choosing several different sourcs. |
| 13:43.26 | usr13_ | !netselect-apt |
| 13:43.26 | dpkg | netselect takes a bunch of servers and uses multiple pings + traceroute to figure out which one has the best connectivity relative to you (choose the best mirror). netselect-apt will find the fastest debian mirror and write a sources.list file for you!. Ask me about <netselect.etch> |
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| 13:45.14 | frankS2 | !crosscompile |
| 13:45.15 | frankS2 | !crosscompiling |
| 13:45.18 | usr13_ | !apt-spy |
| 13:45.19 | dpkg | a secret! Shh! 'Mirror, mirror, on the wall... who is the fastest of them all?' Note that it will overwrite your sources.list when finished, so (1) cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.mybak (2) apt-get install apt-spy (3) apt-spy update; apt-spy -d [stable,testing,unstable] -a [Africa,Asia,Europe,North-America,Oceania,South-America] (4) fix your sources.list by adding back in any other mirrors you had been using. |
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| 13:45.47 | usr13_ | so, how do I get back to the apt setup application? |
| 13:46.18 | usr13_ | Do I boot from the CD again? |
| 13:47.11 | simonrvn | login? open vim-tiny and start editing |
| 13:47.16 | usr13_ | Or, do I just edit the mirrors file manually? |
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| 13:47.29 | usr13_ | Yes, ok. |
| 13:47.34 | l4 | hello, I justt hhave upgrade from Etch to Lenny. X wont starts causes it cant find the ati module. Can I find thte old ati module that was used before somewhere? |
| 13:47.54 | simonrvn | it still exists |
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| 13:48.17 | jelly | l4: which card do you have? |
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| 13:48.25 | Tenkawa | there any workaround for the newest libc6 in unstable running on vz servers with older kernels? |
| 13:48.27 | l4 | old ATI RAGE MOGILITY |
| 13:48.32 | Fox_1_ | hi all |
| 13:48.35 | l4 | *Mobility |
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| 13:48.48 | jelly | l4: is xserver-xorg-video-ati installed? |
| 13:48.51 | Fox_1_ | people is there any laptop/notebook with Debian OS? |
| 13:48.52 | l4 | its a Dell laptop |
| 13:49.04 | usr13_ | so I edit /etc/apt/sources.list ? |
| 13:49.11 | Tenkawa | Fox_1_: debian can be installed on a lot of notebooks |
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| 13:49.40 | feitingen | is there a better thing than VNC to remote to my desktop at home? |
| 13:49.41 | simonrvn | usr13_: yup. |
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| 13:50.10 | Fox_1_ | I want to buy notebook and I will install Debian, which notebook you will suggest? |
| 13:50.15 | l4 | jelly: I have checked the repocitory with aptittude for pakages withh "ati" in name and did not find any ATI related, just latin and stuff |
| 13:50.31 | l4 | Fox_1_: thats a too generic question |
| 13:50.40 | jelly | l4: your /etc/apt/sources.list might be incomplete |
| 13:50.41 | simonrvn | usr13_: easy one is something like deb http://ftp.<CC>.debian.org/debian lenny main #where <CC> is your two-letter countrycode |
| 13:50.58 | feitingen | Fox_1_: any notebook works well in general, but i have had good experience with toshiba and acer |
| 13:51.05 | jelly | judd: versions xserver-xorg-video-ati |
| 13:51.06 | judd | jelly: xserver-xorg-video-ati -- etch: 1:6.6.3-2 lenny: 1:6.9.0-1+lenny4 sid: 1:6.9.0-1+lenny4 squeeze: 1:6.9.0-1+lenny4 experimental: 1:6.11.0-1 |
| 13:51.10 | simonrvn | usr13_: be sure to add security |
| 13:51.15 | feitingen | Fox_1_: my next one will either be acer or ibm |
| 13:51.18 | Fox_1_ | I don't want to have lots of problems with webcam, wifi ... |
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| 13:51.18 | l4 | hmmm |
| 13:51.44 | Fox_1_ | I know that I will have problems :) but I don't want to have lots of problems :) |
| 13:51.57 | feitingen | Fox_1_: wifi is generally not a problem, webcams can be a problem, but i heard that acer webcams can be tricky |
| 13:52.01 | feitingen | but viable |
| 13:52.44 | l4 | jelly: I only have lenny main and the securrity in sources.list |
| 13:52.59 | jelly | l4: pastebin your sources.list. |
| 13:53.03 | simonrvn | should be there |
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| 13:53.21 | wedge | What is the difference between primary and logical partitions in Debian installer? Is there a resource where I can find this info? |
| 13:53.24 | simonrvn | but ignore me |
| 13:53.25 | l4 | jelly: I hope I will manage witht w3m |
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| 13:53.39 | KomiaPoika | hi |
| 13:53.40 | jelly | !pastebin pipe |
| 13:53.40 | dpkg | Download http://pastebin.ca/download/paste2pastebin.pl and install libwww-mechanize-perl. Then pipe your output to perl paste2pastebin.pl. You can also "aptitude install pastebinit" if you are on lenny/sid. Upload a file to http://pastebin.ca/upload.php pipe to "nc paste.dyndns.org 1234". |
| 13:54.05 | KomiaPoika | what source do i have to add to have a google earth package for debian 5? |
| 13:54.37 | mchelen | google has their own repo |
| 13:54.41 | themill | judd versions googleearth-package |
| 13:54.41 | judd | themill: googleearth-package -- etch/contrib: 0.0.4 lenny/contrib: 0.5.4 sid/contrib: 0.5.4 squeeze/contrib: 0.5.4 |
| 13:54.52 | mchelen | oh its in contrib |
| 13:55.08 | themill | mchelen: google earth isn't in contrib, but an installer for it is. |
| 13:55.38 | mchelen | ah ok, well thats good too |
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| 13:56.05 | KomiaPoika | i dont understand |
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| 13:56.37 | KomiaPoika | what line do i have to add in sources.list to have googleearth as a package? |
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| 14:00.05 | feitingen | wedge: you can have maximum 4 primary partitions (which will be named /dev/hdx1-4) and logical partitions will be named /dev/hda5-? |
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| 14:01.17 | frankS2 | anyone have any links to point me to for crosscompiling from debian til fbsd? |
| 14:01.38 | zwox | hi there |
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| 14:02.10 | wedge | feitingen: ok, then it was what I guessed. the x86 limitation of 4 primary per disk :P thanks |
| 14:02.36 | zwox | does someone knows something about rfid ? |
| 14:03.08 | tomodachi | zwox: only from a user standpoint |
| 14:03.09 | wedge | zwox: passive radiochip that when hit by rf emission emits a signal? :) |
| 14:03.16 | tomodachi | the subway system in Japan is using rfid |
| 14:03.47 | tomodachi | the signal, in the systems i've seen is basically a a series of digits |
| 14:03.51 | tomodachi | a unique id |
| 14:03.55 | usr13_ | simonrvn: Where can I see an example file? |
| 14:04.08 | l4 | jelly: pastebin.ca/1345846 |
| 14:04.09 | zwox | yeah, the fact is, i have a r/w device that support mifare tag, but i'm not able to use it with debian |
| 14:04.24 | zwox | using openct ctapi pcsc and so on |
| 14:04.27 | l4 | couldnt find the paste nimber out of w3m |
| 14:04.32 | feitingen | wedge: however, if you want, you can use any other partition scheme, sun, amiga, whatever which will have other limitations, but booting such a disk will be "interesting" |
| 14:04.53 | usr13_ | simonrvn: If I am in america, I just write a line like: deb ftp.us.debian.org/debian/i386 ? |
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| 14:05.25 | feitingen | usr13_: remove the i386 and you will be ok |
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| 14:05.40 | l4 | usr13_: like this pastebin.ca/1345846 |
| 14:06.14 | jelly | l4: that should work. What does "apt-cache policy xserver-org-video-ati" show anything? Run aptitude update before that. |
| 14:06.35 | l4 | I did update |
| 14:06.45 | wedge | feitingen: oh yeah. SPARC was really funny, the etch installer of debian doesnt check amount of primary partitions and create too many lol. |
| 14:06.51 | wedge | feitingen: it's fixed on lenny though |
| 14:07.05 | feitingen | lol |
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| 14:07.32 | wedge | feitingen: appearently sparc doesnt allow >1 primary or something :P |
| 14:07.47 | wedge | but the guided partitioning creates at least 3 on standard "use all" |
| 14:07.54 | Fox_1_ | people what do you think about "Sony Vaio AW125J/H"? |
| 14:07.56 | feitingen | wedge: i tried doing that myself on SPARC and my partition started of course on block 0.. |
| 14:08.13 | wedge | it's fixed in lenny now, thankfully |
| 14:08.14 | l4 | jelly: package noot found |
| 14:08.17 | wedge | but lenny installer is unstable |
| 14:08.18 | jelly | feitingen: that's normal for sun slices. |
| 14:08.34 | wedge | I've had it crash right after "popularity contest" several times on multiple machines. |
| 14:08.35 | zwox | the manufacturer's site provide some source code, with a shell scrit that is supposed to install te supposed drivers, but it just seems to copy some files on /usr/local/.... and maybe compiling something with the .h provided, but there is no doc available on how to interface the acr120usb with any of the middleware available |
| 14:08.37 | wedge | fault-free iso-file. |
| 14:08.56 | jelly | l4: either the update failed or your mirror is broken. |
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| 14:09.05 | feitingen | jelly: and i thought the partition table was on block 0 |
| 14:09.33 | l4 | jelly: I;m on tthe computter right now |
| 14:09.43 | wedge | for new users of debian (console only) what package managing softwares should I introduce them to? |
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| 14:10.27 | l4 | jelly: so I can't use the module that was used by Etch before? |
| 14:10.28 | jelly | wedge: aptitude |
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| 14:10.48 | jelly | l4: use a mirror that works. |
| 14:11.14 | wedge | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:11.31 | jelly | wedge: that's pretty much it, yes |
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| 14:12.06 | l4 | wel, I have downloaded 1500 packages of lenny from that mirror yeesterday |
| 14:12.19 | l4 | bg |
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| 14:12.24 | l4 | argh |
| 14:13.52 | usr13_ | Got it. Thanks all |
| 14:13.59 | usr13_ | I'm on the road...... |
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| 14:14.11 | KomiaPoika | what package must i install to have libssl.so.6 ? |
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| 14:14.25 | KomiaPoika | i currently have libssl3.so libssl3.so.1d libssl.so.0.9.8 |
| 14:14.29 | Kobaz | KomiaPoika: there's a program called apt-file, which can tell you |
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| 14:15.02 | KomiaPoika | thx |
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| 14:15.30 | Wesley_ | Sorry about that. |
| 14:15.42 | abrotman | !find libssl.so.6 lenny |
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| 14:15.46 | Wesley_ | Whats the fastest way to transfer 200gb of rather large files to another machine? |
| 14:15.47 | Kobaz | KomiaPoika: it doesn't look like libssl.so.6 is provided by any debian packages |
| 14:16.02 | abrotman | KomiaPoika: what are you trying to compile? |
| 14:16.02 | Kobaz | Wesley_: put both hard drives in the same machine |
| 14:16.03 | KomiaPoika | Kobaz: i actually need "libssl.so" and ln -s it |
| 14:16.22 | Wesley_ | hmm unfortunaly thats not possible, are two servers with complete diffrent hdd types |
| 14:16.24 | jelly | l4: please pastebin the actual output of "aptitude update && apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-ati" |
| 14:16.29 | Kobaz | KomiaPoika: that may or may not work |
| 14:16.32 | Wesley_ | and bays |
| 14:16.41 | KomiaPoika | Kobaz: it works on the ubunut box |
| 14:16.43 | Kobaz | Wesley_: so copy over the network with either rsync or something like that |
| 14:16.52 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'libssl.so.6' returned no results. |
| 14:16.58 | Wesley_ | yeah rsyncing right now, just seems to be going so slow :/ |
| 14:17.02 | abrotman | KomiaPoika: ubuntu can control what type of hardware you hvae? |
| 14:17.10 | jelly | KomiaPoika: what do you need "libssl.so.6" link for? |
| 14:17.12 | abrotman | oh .. whoops .. wrong person |
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| 14:17.25 | abrotman | Wesley_: tar and netcat? |
| 14:17.31 | KomiaPoika | jelly: a program i have needs libssl.so |
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| 14:17.57 | KomiaPoika | apt-file update |
| 14:17.57 | KomiaPoika | Can't get http://security.debian.org/dists/lenny/updates/Contents-i386.gz |
| 14:18.01 | Wesley_ | it's 500GB of data, taring it is gonna be impossible (not enough diskspace, would take ages to make a tarball from) |
| 14:18.03 | jelly | KomiaPoika: which program? pastebin the output of "ldd -v /path/to/your/binary" |
| 14:18.03 | abrotman | KomiaPoika: that's normal |
| 14:18.04 | Mark17 | hello, how can i stop/destroy a certain virtual ethernet card (like: eth0:48:0) |
| 14:18.05 | Mark17 | ? |
| 14:18.07 | Wesley_ | ill just rsync and wait for a day or so ;) |
| 14:18.27 | abrotman | Wesley_: no .. i said tar and netcat |
| 14:18.29 | petemc | Mark17: ifdown eth0... |
| 14:18.54 | KomiaPoika | jelly: a commercial software |
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| 14:19.02 | abrotman | Wesley_: for example .. http://compsoc.dur.ac.uk/~djw/tarpipe.html |
| 14:19.04 | Mark17 | petemc: ifdown: interface eth0:48:0 not configured |
| 14:19.22 | petemc | Mark17: yeah, that doesnt look right - are you sure thats what its called? |
| 14:19.24 | jelly | KomiaPoika: pastebin the output of "ldd -v /path/to/your/binary" |
| 14:19.28 | Wesley_ | ah! thanks abrotman.. ill read up on that |
| 14:19.51 | Mark17 | petemc: if i may believe ifconfig yes (ifconfig returns: eth0:48:0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:19:66:39:ed:08) |
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| 14:20.27 | petemc | Mark17: ive not seen that syntax before, does ifconfig eth0:48:0 down work? |
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| 14:21.54 | Mark17 | petemc: that works |
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| 14:22.11 | abrotman | Wesley_: as it mentions .. if both machines are pretty fast and your network slow, you may want to compress it |
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| 14:22.37 | `alpha | hello |
| 14:22.44 | abrotman | `hello |
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| 14:23.27 | `alpha | I am trying to install debian 5.0 on this really old celeron 733 mhz box but I can't boot from CD |
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| 14:23.49 | l4 | jelly: thanx. rersolved. I guess the holland mirror isnt really synced |
| 14:24.17 | `alpha | my CDROM shows in bios |
| 14:24.24 | KomiaPoika | jelly: nvm, i got it working by linking the libs 0.9.8 |
| 14:24.30 | `alpha | and the disk is ok (boots on other PC) |
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| 14:26.01 | `alpha | can anyone help me ? |
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| 14:26.38 | pif | `alpha: use a recent computer |
| 14:26.50 | pif | or install from floppies |
| 14:27.02 | `alpha | pif that's really constructive. |
| 14:27.46 | pif | I don't understand the upside of spending energy on obsolete hardware |
| 14:27.53 | `alpha | pff. |
| 14:28.07 | `alpha | I guess i'll go look for my old trusty gentoo. |
| 14:28.11 | jelly | `alpha: that's halfway constructive, actually. You could put this machine's HDD in the one that boots, install the base system there, and put it back |
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| 14:28.35 | obcecado | why not just use tftp + netinstall ? |
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| 14:29.09 | jelly | doesn't really matter now, does it |
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| 14:30.09 | pif | pictures an 'emerge all' on a 733mz celeron |
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| 14:32.22 | abrotman | `alpbah |
| 14:32.40 | abrotman | !bf |
| 14:32.40 | dpkg | i heard etch floppies is http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/main/installer-i386/current/images/floppy/ or substitute your arch for "i386". If you want lenny/testing change "etch" to "lenny". |
| 14:32.46 | abrotman | hrm ... |
| 14:33.03 | KomiaPoika | what packaged must i install to have libjs.so? |
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| 14:33.29 | abrotman | eh .. are boot floppies dead in lenny? |
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| 14:35.35 | korf | this is strange. pppoeconf and its dependencies are on the netinst cd, but when installing the system bare without a network connection and leaving the "standard system" selection checked, pppoeconf is not installed |
| 14:35.48 | korf | lenny |
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| 14:37.31 | lbt | how do I get the source for a particular package version? eg: apt-get source python-hk-classes=0.8.3 |
| 14:37.49 | lbt | (trying to fix a bug in knoda) |
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| 14:39.46 | korf | !snapshots |
| 14:39.46 | dpkg | snapshots is probably an archive that contains all Debian packages uploaded since 2002, including those removed from the official archives because they were very buggy, unusable, broken, vulnerable or in some way undistributable. Much of 2004 was lost because of harddisk problems. See http://snapshot.debian.net/ for more information. |
| 14:40.50 | rwaite | i can't figure out if what i want to do is possible or even desirable, so i'll just ask - on a new lenny system i want to install python 2.6 in /home/apache/python and have a mod_python that uses it |
| 14:40.57 | Schuenemann | hi,I did a dist-upgrade and installed gnome, but I can`t start X. This is the error from xorg log: http://pastebin.ca/1345880 |
| 14:41.09 | rwaite | is there a way to get a custom mod_python that works with the default python? |
| 14:41.19 | rwaite | s/default python/default apache2/ |
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| 14:41.59 | Schuenemann | and this is my xorg.conf: http://pastebin.ca/1345881 |
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| 14:43.36 | Schuenemann | what should I do? |
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| 14:45.05 | enouf | lbt: could just go to packages.debian.org |
| 14:45.17 | stew | Schuenemann: what does "uname -r" say? is /dev/ at all populated? |
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| 14:46.23 | Schuenemann | stew 2.6.18-6-amd64. Yes, there are a lot of entris there |
| 14:46.29 | Schuenemann | entries* |
| 14:47.00 | Schuenemann | I installed gnome for the first time yesterday |
| 14:47.32 | stew | Schuenemann: try "modprobe intel_agp" and tell me if /dev/agpgart appears? |
| 14:47.57 | parsifal_ | how come Vim gets put in Accessories in Debian? Vim is no notepad :) |
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| 14:49.03 | lbt | enouf, korf: thanks - got the source from snapshots. I thought there was a syntax in apt-get -- am I mistaken? |
| 14:49.10 | Schuenemann | stew: it did not appear. But why agp? This is a laptop |
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| 14:49.39 | OpenTokix | parsifal_: I think you have put it there yourself. |
| 14:49.46 | stew | Schuenemann: becuase your video card is probably connected via agp, and your error log indicates that it is looking for abp |
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| 14:49.55 | grullii | is there any repositories for opera? |
| 14:49.56 | parsifal_ | OpenTokix, I did not; it appeared there after I installed it with aptitude |
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| 14:50.56 | OpenTokix | parsifal_: I have vim installed to, but I don't have it in my accessories |
| 14:50.58 | Schuenemann | stew: I never realized an onboard card could be agp... well, what else can I try? |
| 14:51.15 | stew | Schuenemann: what version of debian are you running? |
| 14:51.21 | milligan_ | Anyone here familiar with m0n0wall? I have a little problem I'd like to discuss with someone that has experience with it. |
| 14:51.23 | parsifal_ | OpenTokix, Weird; all I can say is that the minimal vim was installed first, and then I changed to vim-full |
| 14:51.29 | parsifal_ | also, I'm in Xfce4 |
| 14:51.30 | Schuenemann | stew: lenny. I did a dist-upgrade yesterday too |
| 14:51.33 | enouf | lbt: just need the correct source pkgname; ~$ apt-cache showsrc hk-classes | grep python-hk-classes |
| 14:51.43 | Schuenemann | 5.0 |
| 14:51.49 | stew | parsifal_: if you think it is in the wrong place in the menu, file a wishlist bug |
| 14:51.51 | parsifal_ | but its Desktop Menu is updated when I install apps, so I can only assume it's reading from whatever source GNOME might read from |
| 14:51.56 | enouf | lbt: http://packages.debian.org/source/lenny/hk-classes |
| 14:51.58 | stew | Schuenemann: you should upgrade to a kernel from 5.0 then |
| 14:52.00 | parsifal_ | stew: good to know |
| 14:52.05 | OpenTokix | parsifal_: vim-full probably also install vim-gnome or similar. |
| 14:52.07 | stew | parsifal_: (/msg dpkg reportbug) |
| 14:52.21 | parsifal_ | stew: thanks |
| 14:52.24 | OpenTokix | parsifal_: Depends: vim-gnome (>= 1:7.1-135+1) |
| 14:52.28 | Schuenemann | stew: uh... shouldn`t the dist-upgrade do that? |
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| 14:52.39 | parsifal_ | OpenTokix, Yeah, I installed whatever gave me the GTK version of gvim |
| 14:52.43 | petemc | parsifal_: where do you think it should be? |
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| 14:52.59 | parsifal_ | petemc, Development |
| 14:53.05 | parsifal_ | IMO |
| 14:53.11 | stew | Schuenemann: that depends on whether or not you installed a kernel metapackage |
| 14:53.15 | petemc | not everyone uses it for development tasks |
| 14:53.22 | parsifal_ | petemc, true |
| 14:53.31 | parsifal_ | where does emacs get installed? :) |
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| 14:53.49 | Schuenemann | stew: can you tell me the name? |
| 14:53.51 | stew | parsifal_: dpkg -L packagename |
| 14:54.01 | stew | Schuenemann: apt-cache search -n linux-image |
| 14:54.07 | Slartibartfast | Hi, i was here earlier with a question about UUID in fstab. i said i would try to install Lenny and so i did with an netinstall cd ... as i thought there was of course again an Error 15: file not found from grub ... |
| 14:54.25 | Slartibartfast | but i now have very strange behaviour: in the root line there should be hd(1,5) but on the kernel line it says root=/dev/sda5 |
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| 14:54.41 | Slartibartfast | why o why ? |
| 14:54.43 | Schuenemann | stew: perhaps it was installed but was not added to grub. Grub is installed in a different partition |
| 14:54.58 | OpenTokix | parsifal_: emacs is more a full blown ide then vim - imho |
| 14:55.06 | Schuenemann | (that was a question) |
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| 14:55.34 | stew | Schuenemann: "dpkg -l linux-image\*" would tell you |
| 14:55.39 | parsifal_ | OpenTokix, I think this could be the start of a religious war :) |
| 14:55.53 | Slartibartfast | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:56.05 | stew | milligan_: i ran m0n0wall many many years ago. you should try #m0n0wall |
| 14:56.08 | Schuenemann | stew: there is 2.6.26 too |
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| 14:56.31 | stew | Schuenemann: is it installed? |
| 14:56.36 | milligan_ | stew, been there.. tried that .. no go :P |
| 14:56.45 | Schuenemann | stew: yes, (ii) |
| 14:56.58 | stew | Schuenemann: you should try starting X under that kernel |
| 14:57.24 | Schuenemann | stew: so I should add them to grub |
| 14:57.35 | stew | yes |
| 14:57.50 | Schuenemann | I`ll reboot and try that. thanks |
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| 14:59.00 | allquixotic | What is the difference between cdebootstrap and debootstrap? |
| 14:59.10 | Aron | I just upgraded my server from etch to lenny which worked fine, but now all of a sudden my PHP5 seems broken. libphp5.so is not found and a "locate libphp5.so" shows nothing either |
| 14:59.22 | Aron | is this is a common problem, and more importantly, does anyone know how to fix this? |
| 14:59.31 | Aron | (my PHP5 is installed through aptitude) |
| 14:59.33 | Schuenemann | stew: just 1 more question: there is 2.6.26-13 and 2.6.26+17. Which one? |
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| 15:00.20 | stew | !judd versions linux-image-2.6.26-1-686 --release lenny |
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| 15:00.25 | stew | judd versions linux-image-2.6.26-1-686 --release lenny |
| 15:00.25 | judd | stew: linux-image-2.6.26-1-686 -- lenny: 2.6.26-13 |
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| 15:00.45 | Strost | just upgraded to lenny , does apt keep the packages on the disk ? |
| 15:00.46 | stew | Schuenemann: 2.6.26-13, i don't know what 2.6.26+17 is, or where it came from |
| 15:00.55 | Strost | i have 2 gb less of space now |
| 15:01.01 | stew | Strost: /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 15:01.07 | Strost | ty |
| 15:01.08 | Schuenemann | alright, thanks again. brb |
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| 15:01.17 | stew | Strost: see "man aptitude" about "clean" and "autoclean" |
| 15:01.25 | OpenTokix | parsifal_: Probably, since I use nano =) |
| 15:01.26 | Strost | :) |
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| 15:02.39 | parsifal_ | OpenTokix, haha, well at least we wouldnt offend each other then |
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| 15:04.15 | roflsaurusre | would anyone here happen to know where to find a subnet calculator that lists all the hosts within the subnet instead of the x.x.x.x-x.x.x.x format? |
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| 15:05.26 | tomodachi | i only know of one subnet calculator |
| 15:05.32 | tomodachi | dont know if it has the features you require |
| 15:05.36 | tomodachi | solar winds |
| 15:05.56 | Strost | this is the first time Debian works "out of the box" ! |
| 15:06.32 | Strost | wifi acpi sound everything! |
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| 15:06.51 | Strost | this isnt normal :S |
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| 15:10.12 | abrotman | roflsaurusre: netcalc i think ? |
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| 15:10.54 | abrotman | roflsaurusre: sorry .. ipcalc |
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| 15:11.39 | jelly | tomodachi: ipcalc ? |
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| 15:11.52 | jelly | needs to read the backlog sometimes |
| 15:12.05 | OpenTokix | ipcalc ftw. |
| 15:12.08 | tomodachi | http://www.freesoft411.com/freeware/solarwinds-net.html |
| 15:12.10 | roflsaurusre | i'm testing the solarwinds one right now |
| 15:12.18 | roflsaurusre | thanks for the support guys :D |
| 15:12.22 | roflsaurusre | i appreciate it very much |
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| 15:12.45 | roflsaurusre | you guys can ask me a question and maybe i'll have an answer for you :D |
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| 15:13.45 | inglor1 | Is there any chance that AGP x1 option might cause hardware problems on a ATI Radeon Mobility 9700? |
| 15:14.25 | inglor1 | I'm not sure where to check for my problems. My graphics are all messed up even from POST |
| 15:14.53 | OpenTokix | roflsaurusre: should I move 4G from my GW to my dom0-host? |
| 15:15.03 | OpenTokix | roflsaurusre: feels alittle over the top with 8G ram in a gw =) |
| 15:15.34 | OpenTokix | inglor1: maybe problem with the cable? |
| 15:15.49 | inglor1 | OpenTokix, no cable, it's laptop |
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| 15:16.03 | OpenTokix | inglor1: Check what happens if you move the screen back and forth alittle |
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| 15:16.08 | roflsaurusre | try x4 inglor` |
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| 15:17.42 | inglor1 | OpenTokix, nothing really. The graphics distortion is changing according to what it shows on the back. system works fine (I can even see gnome loading but im not able to work on that) |
| 15:17.43 | roflsaurusre | openTokix: why not? :D |
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| 15:17.47 | gypsymauro | hi |
| 15:18.02 | OpenTokix | inglor1: ok |
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| 15:18.07 | gypsymauro | someone uses kernel with xen patch and tried to compile virtualbox driver? |
| 15:18.11 | gypsymauro | It fails for me |
| 15:18.13 | OpenTokix | roflsaurusre: its a hassle to open up thew machines =) |
| 15:18.28 | inglor1 | roflsaurusre, what's x4 ? |
| 15:18.32 | OpenTokix | gypsymauro: why on earth do you wanna mix xen and virtualbox? |
| 15:18.44 | inglor1 | OpenTokix, example: I cannot even see characters in terminals (tty1-6) but can see desktop on tty7 |
| 15:18.59 | inglor1 | tried vesa and ati |
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| 15:19.01 | OpenTokix | inglor1: oh, boot kernel with vgaoption |
| 15:19.14 | gypsymauro | OpenTokix: cause I've a lot of virtualbox guest machines but I want to use xen to create servers |
| 15:19.21 | gypsymauro | my guest machines are windows |
| 15:19.28 | gypsymauro | and my servers are linux |
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| 15:19.45 | OpenTokix | gypsymauro: so you want to use virtualbox and xen on the same dom0? |
| 15:20.00 | inglor1 | OpenTokix, I can't see the Grub window it's all messed up graphs, all I can change is menu.lst from ssh |
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| 15:20.30 | OpenTokix | yeah, you change in menu.lst |
| 15:20.35 | inglor1 | OpenTokix, note that same thing happens with windows, that's why I say its hardware issue |
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| 15:20.53 | OpenTokix | inglor1: like vga=791 or something? |
| 15:21.02 | OpenTokix | inglor1: sounds likely yes |
| 15:21.07 | gypsymauro | OpenTokix: yes if it's possible |
| 15:21.19 | gypsymauro | but trying to compile vboxdrv it fails |
| 15:21.55 | OpenTokix | gypsymauro: So you have a xen-dom0, and inside that you have a linux-server running virtualbox? |
| 15:22.13 | roflsaurusre | hey inglor1 can you change it x4 instead of x1? |
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| 15:22.34 | inglor1 | I removed the option in xorg.conf |
| 15:22.38 | inglor1 | same thing |
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| 15:23.01 | gypsymauro | OpenTokix: I'm new about xen and I'm playing it so I dunno if I've what you said.. my xm list shows : |
| 15:23.04 | gypsymauro | Domain-0 0 1884 2 r----- 1408.3 |
| 15:23.07 | gypsymauro | provaxen 8 128 1 -b---- 29.0 |
| 15:23.09 | inglor1 | roflsaurusre, to be honest ati mobility is really weird card with linux :S |
| 15:23.29 | OpenTokix | gypsymauro: ok, what is provaxen? |
| 15:23.39 | gypsymauro | it's a xen guest |
| 15:23.47 | gypsymauro | and it's a debian with postgresql server |
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| 15:24.05 | gypsymauro | just I've 3 vritualbox guest with win2k or winxp |
| 15:24.09 | OpenTokix | gypsymauro: Andthen you are trying to run virtualbox on that machines to? |
| 15:24.29 | gypsymauro | OpenTokix: on the real machine |
| 15:24.56 | OpenTokix | gypsymauro: ok |
| 15:24.58 | gypsymauro | I suppose Domain-0 means the kernel that controls the real machine right? |
| 15:25.17 | gypsymauro | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:25.18 | gypsymauro | Linux debian 2.6.26-1-xen-686 #1 SMP Sat Jan 10 22:52:47 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux |
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| 15:27.04 | OpenTokix | gypsymauro: hard to tell if its doable or not, im not sure |
| 15:27.12 | rwaite | if i want to recompile a package but customize its build, how do i do that? is there a staging area where i can modify scripts before it is built? |
| 15:27.12 | Burps | did someone manage to use net:ssh:perl on lenny ? I always get "can't locate Net/SSH/Perl.pm", although libnet-ssh-perl is installed |
| 15:27.20 | Strost | Wahaha |
| 15:27.33 | Strost | the SD card reader is working out of the box |
| 15:27.51 | Strost | is in love with Lenny |
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| 15:28.39 | jelly | Burps: you want libnet-ssh-perl-perl ;-) |
| 15:29.07 | parsifal_ | does anybody here use ack-grep? why would "find . | xargs grep whatever" find what I'm looking for, but "ack whatever" wouldn't? |
| 15:29.09 | jelly | Burps: libnet-ssh-perl is merely Net::SSH. |
| 15:29.58 | jelly | Burps: and since libnet-ssh-perl-perl isn't packaged, you also probably want dh-make-perl |
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| 15:30.32 | parsifal_ | ugh, and ack-grep -a finds them too. what the fuck? is it ignoring .pthml files? |
| 15:32.38 | inglor1 | OpenTokix, vga=791 option is messed up also (although not as much as before) Half screen is messed up and half is ok (just like the BIOS graphical image Centrino stuff) |
| 15:33.24 | OpenTokix | inglor1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VESA_BIOS_Extensions#Linux_video_mode_numbers |
| 15:33.35 | parsifal_ | lord, ack-grep doesn't understand phtml files.. ugh.. |
| 15:33.40 | inglor1 | OpenTokix, seems like I will open it up to check the cables and hardware (since ints not in warranty) |
| 15:34.06 | OpenTokix | inglor1: sounds like a plan - try some other vga-optios |
| 15:34.50 | inglor1 | OpenTokix, 791 is the correct one for my screen |
| 15:34.58 | OpenTokix | oki |
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| 15:38.50 | tziku | hello how can i check other machine if has a port OPEN or CLOSED ? |
| 15:39.00 | OpenTokix | tziku: nmap machinename |
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| 15:39.07 | tziku | thanks |
| 15:39.23 | rwaite | python (<< 2.6) |
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| 15:39.31 | rwaite | does that mean the version must be less than 2.6? |
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| 15:40.14 | stew | rwaite: yes |
| 15:40.25 | plsa | does anyone here have a jabber account and know that file transfer works for you? I'm trying to get file transfer working and don't know if the problem is here or with my friend, if someone could try and receive a file from me I'd be grateful. send me the adress via pm and I'll add you |
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| 15:42.52 | Burps | jelly : I don't reallyknow about libnet-ssh-perl-perl or not -perl.... I just followed a few examples on the net.... seeems strange that with "ssh" in it, you can't start an ssh connection... |
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| 15:45.13 | jelly | Burps: install apt-file dh-make-perl, do an apt-file update as root, and do "dh-make-perl --build --cpan Net::SSH::Perl" to build a package out of that module |
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| 15:46.08 | bkw | When I type a command in woody and press tab I get "ls -sh: <( compgen -d -- '' ): No such file or directory" how can that be fixed so normal tab completation works again? |
| 15:46.18 | bkw | lenny even, sorry |
| 15:46.25 | jelly | Burps: packages of perl modules are named like lib + module name + -perl, so, you want "lib-net-ssh-perl-perl" which isn't in Debian yet. |
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| 15:48.14 | Burps | jelly: ok, thx |
| 15:48.15 | Schuenemann | stew, hi, it worked, but my wireless is gone |
| 15:48.24 | fluxdude | anyone have any recommendations of ways of generating configuration files that have settings which are inherited across all configs... and to have specific bits per host/service? |
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| 15:48.31 | Agiofws | whats the hotkey of the power of 2 ? |
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| 15:50.04 | Schuenemann | enouf, what was that bot entry about my wireless problem? |
| 15:50.23 | stew | Schuenemann: which wireless chipset? |
| 15:50.31 | Agiofws | whats the hotkey of the power of 2 ? aka ^2 ? |
| 15:50.38 | Schuenemann | stew, 3495abg |
| 15:50.50 | Schuenemann | I fixed it once, but the driver for that kernel was different |
| 15:51.00 | Schuenemann | intel 3495 |
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| 15:51.22 | stew | Schuenemann: install firmware-iwlwifi from non-free |
| 15:51.31 | stew | Schuenemann: then "modprobe iwl3945" |
| 15:51.48 | Schuenemann | let me look or it at packages.debian.org |
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| 15:54.07 | Schuenemann | stew, ok, I'll reboot and install. Is it safe to remove the ones I installed for the older kernel? |
| 15:54.32 | enouf | Schuenemann: this? http://wiki.debian.org/ipw3945 ? stew knows what to do as well though |
| 15:54.41 | Schuenemann | enouf, got it, thanks |
| 15:54.45 | bkw | hm reinstallation of bash-completion didn't help. pressing tab for file completation still gives -sh: <( compgen -f -X -- '' ): No such file or directory |
| 15:55.16 | stew | Schuenemann: i wouldn't remove anything until you have the new kernel working the way you want |
| 15:55.55 | Schuenemann | alright. thanks |
| 15:55.59 | Schuenemann | brb |
| 15:56.05 | enouf | bkw: have you an altered /etc/inputrc, or a ~/.inputrc ? |
| 15:56.21 | enouf | bkw: ls -l /bin/sh |
| 15:56.43 | bkw | enouf: no, lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2009-02-24 16:56 /bin/sh -> bash |
| 15:56.59 | bkw | enouf: file completation with bash seem to be a bug in lenny |
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| 15:58.29 | enouf | judd: versions bash --release Lenny |
| 15:58.30 | judd | enouf: bash -- |
| 15:58.35 | enouf | judd: versions bash |
| 15:58.36 | judd | enouf: bash -- etch: 3.1dfsg-8 lenny: 3.2-4 sid: 3.2-4 squeeze: 3.2-4 |
| 15:58.52 | OpenTokix | someone read on /. bash 4 is released... |
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| 15:59.16 | jelly | OpenTokix: oh noes! |
| 15:59.29 | enouf | heh, i still have the etch version installed here |
| 15:59.53 | OpenTokix | enouf: you are so last week |
| 16:00.13 | enouf | bkw: file only? how about apt-cache show hd{tab}{tab} ? |
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| 16:00.35 | bkw | enouf: that works |
| 16:00.59 | enouf | bkw: what FStype and mount options, if not / and friends? |
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| 16:01.25 | lvh | hey |
| 16:01.45 | bkw | enouf: /dev/sda1 / ext3 errors=remount-ro 0 1 |
| 16:02.00 | enouf | bkw: fair enough .. |
| 16:02.04 | lvh | I've got a shorewall firewall. The rules file has the following line, but when I ssh to my wan IP I end up on the firewall, not my local box: DNAT net loc:10.0.0.200 tcp ssh,http |
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| 16:03.13 | enouf | bkw: hrm .. wait, where's defaults option or something |
| 16:03.37 | jelly | lvh: tried #shorewall? |
| 16:03.53 | enouf | bkw: that's obviously /etc/fstab entry - show ouput of 'mount' , and cat /proc/mounts |
| 16:03.57 | lvh | jelly: Yep, tryign that now |
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| 16:04.21 | gypsymauro | hi |
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| 16:04.27 | bkw | enouf: mount shows /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro) |
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| 16:04.49 | gypsymauro | I'm on sarge... and it fails to mount / I've a wrong initrd image there is a way to recreate it chrooting from a live? |
| 16:05.12 | bkw | enouf: and proc/mounts /dev/root / ext3 rw,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered 0 0 |
| 16:06.20 | enouf | hem, /dev/root ? |
| 16:06.36 | rwaite | hmm. is there any good docs on how to setup mod_wsgi with virtualenv? |
| 16:06.38 | enouf | that's a new one on me |
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| 16:07.09 | jelly | gypsymauro: the generic way to do it would be to mount your filesystems somewhere, chroot in there, mount /proc (and possibly /sys), then fix the system (using mkinitrd or whatever) |
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| 16:08.22 | Schuenemann | stew, it's working |
| 16:08.26 | enouf | bkw: you sure you haven't somehow overmounted / somehow? through a chroot perhaps or something? I ask, cause i grepped all my /etc/{.}bash* related files for the error you show, and nothing returned |
| 16:08.30 | Schuenemann | weird is that the device is named as wlan0_rename |
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| 16:08.59 | bkw | enouf: no, I've a default lenny install with standard packages. |
| 16:08.59 | valdyn | lvh: you are sshing FROM "net" ? |
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| 16:09.09 | lvh | valdyn: Yep. |
| 16:09.13 | lvh | valdyn: Fixed with split dns now. |
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| 16:09.28 | lvh | valdyn: Unfortunately anti-common-cold drugs + no sleep = bad thinkos |
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| 16:09.34 | pif | Schuenemann: remove /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules and reboot |
| 16:09.40 | stew | Schuenemann: yeah, i think that happens when the device shows up as two different NICs with the same mac, thus confusing udev: /msg dpkg 70 |
| 16:09.50 | enouf | bkw: are you in initramfs/busybox boot? 'runlevel' says? |
| 16:09.51 | person1 | What's the default sound daemon in Debian? Does it vary according to DE? |
| 16:10.09 | valdyn | person1: thats not that simple to answer |
| 16:10.19 | person1 | valdyn: Sorry for the invalid question |
| 16:10.22 | valdyn | person1: theres no distro - default in debian for anything |
| 16:10.25 | Schuenemann | stew, I didn't run load that module you told me (I forgot the name) also |
| 16:10.30 | pif | person1: on recent hardware you no longer need a sound daemon |
| 16:10.32 | Schuenemann | pif, okay |
| 16:10.39 | person1 | pif: I see... |
| 16:10.43 | valdyn | person1: theres no need to use a sound daemon at all except if you use kde |
| 16:10.50 | enouf | bkw: the thing i'm getting at, is your error almost seeems like a specific bash option that 'sh' doesn't understand |
| 16:10.55 | stew | Schuenemann: it probably was loaded automatically. you can verify that "lsmod | grep iwl3945" returns a match |
| 16:10.59 | valdyn | person1: and you might be using a stack of sound daemons in some cases |
| 16:11.02 | stew | Schuenemann: (or probably several matches) |
| 16:11.20 | enouf | bkw: echo $TERM ; echo $SHELL |
| 16:11.42 | Schuenemann | stew, yeah, five |
| 16:11.51 | person1 | Well my sound is often a little on and off, doesn't always work and it's behaving like that at the moment so I assumed that for some reason or another, some sound daemon wasn't working |
| 16:11.54 | valdyn | person1: pulseaudio seems to be the thing of the future, but that doesnt remove artsd from kde |
| 16:12.03 | bkw | enouf: strange, when I run from konsole it works, but not from gnome terminal och xterm |
| 16:12.15 | enouf | s/och/or ? |
| 16:12.20 | person1 | It's not just those that use mpd are being a pain; it's stuff like rhythmbox and amarok too |
| 16:12.26 | person1 | flash as well |
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| 16:12.44 | valdyn | person1: ok, this has nothign to do with sound daemons |
| 16:12.49 | bkw | enouf: in the konsole case the shell is /bin/bash while in the xterm the shell is /bin/sh |
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| 16:12.54 | achilles | hello, I want to run script but I don't want the output on the shell, I redirected the output like this "sh myscript.sh > /dev/null" but it doesn't work out |
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| 16:12.57 | bkw | enouf: strange |
| 16:13.02 | enouf | bkw: wow - i'd lookfor bug reports then, if none , file one please |
| 16:13.09 | person1 | valdyn: Yeah, dumb question :P |
| 16:13.11 | enouf | oh |
| 16:13.14 | valdyn | person1: flash defaults to oss, which is teh suck, rhythmbox uses the gstreamer, which is configurable to about anything, amarok uses artsd, which is also configurable to anything |
| 16:13.41 | valdyn | person1: you want to use flash 10 if you arent already, then flash will use alsa |
| 16:13.51 | person1 | Aye |
| 16:14.00 | enouf | bkw: ~$ printenv | grep xterm |
| 16:14.01 | enouf | TERM=xterm |
| 16:14.10 | person1 | I'm not sure I can be bothered with installing weird versions of flash though :P |
| 16:14.14 | valdyn | person1: then you either reroute alsa to your favourite sound daemon or you make *every* app just use alsa |
| 16:14.19 | enouf | bkw: that's while in konsole :-O |
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| 16:14.22 | person1 | It's sound generally that isn't working - is this because it's not using ALSA? |
| 16:14.23 | valdyn | person1: thats not a weird version |
| 16:14.35 | valdyn | person1: read my text to the end |
| 16:14.46 | bkw | enouf: xterm, but the shell differs. it is /bin/bash in console. and /bin/sh in xterm. |
| 16:14.56 | valdyn | person1: the primary cause of issues is different apps using different sound daemons / interfaces |
| 16:15.03 | person1 | Hmm, you think it could be because they aren't using alsa? |
| 16:15.06 | enouf | bkw: in linux console though; i get TERM=linux |
| 16:15.12 | valdyn | person1: you want to have everything on ONE thing, and that ONE thing needs to be able to deal with multiple streams |
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| 16:15.20 | valdyn | person1: alsa is ok, many other things are ok too |
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| 16:15.48 | enouf | bkw: your xterm (and perhaps gnome-terminal reads xterm settings?) is screwed? |
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| 16:16.12 | valdyn | person1: so configuring flash and artsd and gstreamer to alsa and configuring evey application to use artsd or gstreamer or alsa directly works |
| 16:16.14 | enouf | bkw: you have an ~/.dotfiles related? |
| 16:16.22 | enouf | !dotfiles |
| 16:16.22 | dpkg | from memory, dotfiles is http://wiki.debian.org/DotFiles, or http://www.dotfiles.com/ Remember that changes to these files won't be reflected until you log out and then log back in. Ask me about <bash login scripts>. |
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| 16:17.03 | valdyn | person1: its not because they are not using alsa in itself, it will cause problems if one app is configured in a way that makes it claim excluse rights to the output device |
| 16:17.16 | valdyn | person1: *exclusive* even |
| 16:17.20 | person1 | it's just that quite often, my sound works perfectly and it always seems to be hit or miss - either works in everything or works in nothing |
| 16:17.28 | enouf | bkw: i launched xterm, from within konsole; and look |
| 16:17.29 | enouf | ~$ echo $SHELL |
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| 16:17.31 | enouf | /bin/bash |
| 16:17.38 | DirkNL | hey everyone |
| 16:17.47 | valdyn | person1: that is a very vague error description, so my solution above is just as vague |
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| 16:18.08 | DirkNL | i'm running onto a problem after upgrading to lenny from etch with ferm/iptables |
| 16:18.15 | tziku | /j iptables |
| 16:18.23 | tziku | sorry |
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| 16:18.47 | DirkNL | with the distributed conf it runs, but when i add some lines to detect ssh floods, it fails to load those |
| 16:18.48 | valdyn | person1: come back when you got something specific like "if i play a youtube video then my other sounds apps dont work" |
| 16:18.50 | bkw | enouf: yes, if I run the xterm from within konsole I get SHELL=/bin/bash |
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| 16:19.00 | valdyn | person1: or just do what i said above |
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| 16:19.12 | enouf | bkw: and if you try tab-completion from within that launched xterm? |
| 16:19.18 | bkw | works |
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| 16:19.33 | DirkNL | also, i should add that the exact same config works on other domU's (i'm running xen) |
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| 16:19.35 | person1 | valdyn: i read your explanation, thanks |
| 16:19.45 | enouf | bkw: so - you need to find out what is defining /bin/sh , when /bin/bash should be |
| 16:19.53 | enouf | s/when/where |
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| 16:20.55 | valdyn | person1: flash 10 is just the latest flash btw, thats what you should be using in any case |
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| 16:21.04 | person1 | As blasphemous as it may sound, not being all that UNIX-competant, I'll just reboot and hope that any locks that are locked become magically unlocked... I'll perhaps see you another time if I discover what's conflicting. |
| 16:21.08 | valdyn | person1: and you might already be using that .. see the url about:plugins |
| 16:21.15 | enouf | bkw: via policy, only /etc/init.d/*.sh files need to have a #!/bin/sh shebang, rather than all /etc/init.d/* files |
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| 16:21.23 | person1 | valdyn: I got it from debian-multimedia |
| 16:21.34 | enouf | bkw: IINM, and IIRC ;-) |
| 16:21.35 | person1 | I take it that flash has been removed from contrib. |
| 16:21.41 | person1 | Or non-free, whichever it was. |
| 16:21.46 | valdyn | person1: dmm is perfectly fine |
| 16:21.58 | person1 | I see |
| 16:22.18 | enouf | bkw: IOW, files that have a ".sh" extension |
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| 16:22.46 | vasco | hello what do you use for free virtualization ? |
| 16:22.48 | hans__ | Does Sarge not exist as a XEN debootstrap anymore? |
| 16:22.56 | hans__ | vasco: Xen |
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| 16:23.47 | vasco | hans__: ok never use xen |
| 16:23.56 | vasco | hans__: virtualbox? |
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| 16:24.26 | parsifal_ | VirtualBox ftw |
| 16:24.32 | enouf | bkw: if you were say; running from busybox, you might see that behaviour - where's the 'runlevel' output? |
| 16:25.00 | bkw | enouf: N 2 |
| 16:25.04 | hans__ | vasco: depends on what you need it for... virtualbox has an open source version, but it has limitations. |
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| 16:25.12 | enouf | that's ok / normal bkw |
| 16:25.15 | cico | hi |
| 16:25.18 | cico | how to set the time zone for my debian? |
| 16:25.34 | rwaite | arg this is too complicated |
| 16:25.47 | enouf | bkw: launch gnome-terminal from konsole and try - i bet it works |
| 16:25.59 | enouf | because it becomes a child process |
| 16:26.07 | rwaite | how can i rebuild libapache2-mod-wsgi for a custom version of python? is there an easy way? |
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| 16:26.46 | bkw | enouf: Any clue why SHELL=/bin/sh when I use xterm? |
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| 16:26.59 | enouf | bkw: are you originally launching g-t and xterm from a gnome 'menu system' or desktop icon? |
| 16:27.13 | valdyn | bkw: because thats your default shell? |
| 16:27.15 | enouf | no. not offhand |
| 16:27.29 | enouf | bkw: grep username /etc/passwd |
| 16:27.53 | osFrenchDude1 | Is it possible to read and burn blue ray disc on linux and of course debian ? |
| 16:28.25 | enouf | bkw: does it say /bin/sh or /bin/bash ? mine says /bin/bash |
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| 16:29.14 | bkw | valdyn, enouf: Correct, for that specific user the shell is /bin/sh instead of bash. Doesn't useradd default -s to /bin/bash if it is not defined? |
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| 16:29.49 | valdyn | bkw: why didnt you use adduser? |
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| 16:30.20 | enouf | bkw: what's /etc/default/useradd say? |
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| 16:30.35 | cico | how to set the time zone for my debian? |
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| 16:30.44 | enouf | !set the time |
| 16:30.44 | dpkg | To set the time in debian, use date --set. The truly enlightened user, however, will install ntp and adjtimex to have their clock set automatically on reboot and slewed to match time servers. You may also need to run tzconfig (sarge, etch) or dpkg-reconfigure tzdata (lenny, sid) and make sure you have the right UTC setting in /etc/default/rcS first. |
| 16:31.25 | bkw | enouf: it say /bin/sh. But I've changed the default now to /bin/bash |
| 16:31.32 | bkw | enouf: thanks for all hints |
| 16:32.01 | enouf | bkw: i'm amazed we even made progress - cool |
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| 16:35.43 | enouf | ugh ... |
| 16:36.07 | enouf | # The SHELL variable specifies the default login shell on your system. Similar to DHSELL in adduser. We however use "sh" here because useradd being a low level utility should rather be as widely opened as possible SHELL=/bin/sh |
| 16:36.27 | enouf | someone ought to fix that |
| 16:37.03 | parsifal_ | to what? bash? |
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| 16:37.21 | enouf | bkw: would you please file a bug report concerning all the fallout from that setting? |
| 16:37.25 | enouf | psycodad: ofcourse |
| 16:37.35 | DirkNL | i'm running onto a problem after upgrading to lenny from etch with ferm/iptables. with the distributed conf it runs, but when i add some lines to detect ssh floods, it fails to load those. also, i should add that the exact same config works on other domU's (i'm running xen) I've checked all the versions and all are the same |
| 16:37.37 | enouf | parsifal_: i meant you, not psycodad |
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| 16:38.06 | bkw | enouf: why, it was because I lately got a habit skipping -s /bin/bash when using useradd. Not really a bug. |
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| 16:38.35 | parsifal_ | "psycodad" haha |
| 16:38.48 | enouf | bkw: the maintainer might say that indeed - still - ramifications should be documented or commented |
| 16:39.22 | enouf | bkw: something like ; # bash completion will NOT work on local FSs, or something |
| 16:39.29 | valdyn | bkw: why arent you using adduser ? |
| 16:40.01 | enouf | bkw: well, more like # do not expect bash specific extensions to work correctly! |
| 16:40.16 | bkw | valdyn: because I'm used to useradd, and adduser doesn't always exist on all platforms. |
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| 16:40.30 | Schuenemann | pif, thanks, it worked |
| 16:40.40 | enouf | valdyn: does adduser have a /etc/default/ entry? |
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| 16:40.54 | enouf | something that applies to all newly added users? |
| 16:40.59 | JordiGH | Fuck... does anyone have an ntfs-3g horror story? |
| 16:41.05 | JordiGH | 'Cause I think I'm seeing one. |
| 16:41.09 | Schuenemann | but I'm having to manually connect to wireless everytime I log in. How should I fix that, tell debian to issue those commands on startup? |
| 16:41.10 | valdyn | enouf: something, looking |
| 16:41.22 | Zambezi | How is it possible to make the xorg.conf autodetect hardware so it's more specific? I'm going to configure dualmonitor. I'm using Lenny with Ratpoison only. |
| 16:41.53 | JordiGH | Windows Vista deleted some files that Linux put in its filesystem. Has anyone seen this before? |
| 16:42.09 | valdyn | JordiGH: if the fs was not cleanly unmounted |
| 16:42.28 | valdyn | enouf: dpkg-reconfigure adduser, but thats not alot |
| 16:42.38 | enouf | bkw: the point of the bug report is to foster awareness - it's possible one maintainer is not aware of the other maintainer's changes/settings/goals |
| 16:42.41 | JordiGH | valdyn: So permanent data loss...? |
| 16:43.15 | valdyn | enouf: the file adduser.local is not there by default but documented |
| 16:43.23 | Schuenemann | JordiGH, maybe RIP can undo that? |
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| 16:43.27 | enouf | valdyn: ok - i know /etc/adduser.conf is important |
| 16:43.34 | JordiGH | Schuenemann: What's that? |
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| 16:43.44 | enouf | hrm |
| 16:43.53 | valdyn | enouf: doesnt exist |
| 16:43.56 | Schuenemann | JordiGH, recovery is possible: www.tux.org/pub/people/kent-robotti/looplinux/rip/ |
| 16:44.04 | valdyn | enouf: probably gone in squeeze or whenever |
| 16:44.06 | enouf | valdyn: huh? |
| 16:44.19 | enouf | !find etc/adduser.conf |
| 16:44.27 | valdyn | enouf: theres only /usr/share/adduser/adduser.conf |
| 16:44.31 | arezey | $ ls /etc/adduser.conf |
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| 16:44.33 | arezey | on squeeze |
| 16:44.46 | enouf | ugh |
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| 16:44.54 | valdyn | enouf: and docs talk about adduser.local.conf |
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| 16:45.08 | enouf | SHELL changes need to be front and center |
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| 16:45.14 | JordiGH | Schuenemann: Shit, I can't tell my brother to run that, can I? He's not savvy. |
| 16:45.16 | parsifal_ | I notice that Lenny uses PHP 5.2... will that be upgraded to 5.3 when it's final? |
| 16:45.23 | valdyn | enouf: i think /etc/adduser.conf is still used if its there, just not packaged |
| 16:45.29 | arezey | parsifal_, no |
| 16:45.37 | arezey | parsifal_, if you want php5.3 use squeeze |
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| 16:45.48 | parsifal_ | arezey, 8-| I'll wait for a backport |
| 16:45.57 | JordiGH | Schuenemann: Have you encountered this problem, and do you know if RIP can fix it? |
| 16:45.58 | parsifal_ | is squeeze 6? |
| 16:45.59 | arezey | oh yeah, backports |
| 16:46.02 | jelly | parsifal_: versions of software in stable do not change unless absolutely necessary |
| 16:46.12 | parsifal_ | jelly, Yeah, that's why i figured I'd better ask |
| 16:46.16 | valdyn | parsifal_: that is undecided i think |
| 16:46.44 | parsifal_ | does Debian do point releases? |
| 16:46.52 | arezey | only when needed |
| 16:46.55 | jelly | frankly I'm not sure why etch deserved to be a .0 |
| 16:46.59 | parsifal_ | like, is it plausible that there would be a 5.1 that includes php 5.3? |
| 16:47.04 | Schuenemann | JordiGH, never. But RIP says it can recover lost files, if that's what you need. It's an ISO; you burn and boot it. Don't know if you brother can do that |
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| 16:47.10 | valdyn | parsifal_: no |
| 16:47.11 | themill | parsifal_: yes, but not in the sense of redhat. php 5.3 will never be in lenny. |
| 16:47.13 | arezey | parsifal_, if 5.1 is to exist that would be squeeze.. |
| 16:47.18 | jelly | parsifal_: if it happens, that will be squeeze |
| 16:47.25 | arezey | heh |
| 16:47.29 | parsifal_ | confused :) |
| 16:47.35 | jelly | *squeuze will be that |
| 16:47.41 | valdyn | parsifal_: there will not be a debian release soon |
| 16:47.45 | themill | arezey: no, 5.1 will be lenny+1/2 in the same way as we had etchnhalf. |
| 16:47.48 | parsifal_ | from what I understand, 5.x will always have php 5.2 |
| 16:47.52 | arezey | themill, oh? |
| 16:47.55 | arezey | i see. |
| 16:47.55 | parsifal_ | 6.x will have whatever php is stable at the time? |
| 16:47.58 | valdyn | parsifal_: there will be squeeze in around 18 months or 2 years |
| 16:48.09 | parsifal_ | themill, what does 1/2 mean? |
| 16:48.11 | arezey | parsifal_, if squeeze will be 6.0, then yeah |
| 16:48.13 | Geek`N`Proud` | parsifal_, Debian is 100% API/ABI stable |
| 16:48.17 | valdyn | parsifal_: whatever is in squeeze when squeeze freezes |
| 16:48.26 | JordiGH | Schuenemann: Hm, so ntfs-3g has worked fine for you? |
| 16:48.27 | Geek`N`Proud` | so whatever the next release has when next release is out |
| 16:48.33 | parsifal_ | valdyn, typically how far ahead of launch/RC does a release freeze? |
| 16:48.40 | themill | parsifal_: a few newer packages like an extra kernel or xorg drivers are added. Nothing else changes though. |
| 16:48.42 | Geek`N`Proud` | parsifal_, 2 years |
| 16:48.46 | valdyn | parsifal_: 6 months |
| 16:48.48 | jelly | themill: are you positive about that minor number usage? |
| 16:48.50 | valdyn | parsifal_: maybe less |
| 16:48.53 | parsifal_ | 2 years?? |
| 16:48.56 | Geek`N`Proud` | oops sorry |
| 16:48.56 | valdyn | parsifal_: NO |
| 16:48.56 | themill | jelly: that's what's in the release announcement. |
| 16:48.59 | Geek`N`Proud` | 6 months is right |
| 16:49.02 | parsifal_ | 6 months seems more reasonable :) |
| 16:49.10 | Geek`N`Proud` | I was thinking of when it actually releases |
| 16:49.16 | parsifal_ | Geek`N`Proud`, ;) |
| 16:49.32 | jelly | themill: meh, version inflation |
| 16:49.37 | parsifal_ | okay well for now I'll plan on doing a backport of php 5.3 whenever it's stable, and then I spose I'll just wait til the next major |
| 16:49.38 | Geek`N`Proud` | parsifal_, you can always use apt-pinning to grab the latest PHP from Squeeze |
| 16:49.39 | arezey | geek`n`proud`, squeeze doesn't necessarily release after 2 years, squeeze releases WIR. |
| 16:49.49 | parsifal_ | interesting, I've never heard of apt-pinning |
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| 16:49.57 | themill | jelly: well, it actually gives lennynhalf a version number which is probably a good thing. |
| 16:49.58 | jelly | !tell parsifal_ -about pinning |
| 16:50.05 | Geek`N`Proud` | arezey, if things go well then it will release in 24 months (2 years).. apparently |
| 16:50.09 | parsifal_ | Geek`N`Proud`, lol I went and looked for an app named apt-pinning |
| 16:50.12 | Schuenemann | JordiGH, I never wrote to ntfs, only read. |
| 16:50.38 | valdyn | i think 18 months is goal, but thats not to be taken literally |
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| 16:50.41 | arezey | geek`n`proud`, are you sure or just speculating? |
| 16:50.42 | parsifal_ | I added backports to my sources a while ago |
| 16:50.54 | parsifal_ | I don't need to upgrade to 5.3 any time soon -- it's not even stable yet I don't think |
| 16:51.00 | parsifal_ | adds way too many features to ignore tho |
| 16:51.01 | JordiGH | Schuenemann: :-( |
| 16:51.02 | Geek`N`Proud` | arezey, it's from what i've read around the 'net |
| 16:51.03 | themill | JordiGH: see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2009/02/msg00003.html |
| 16:51.10 | themill | gah... jelly^^ |
| 16:51.14 | Geek`N`Proud` | arezey, Debian now tries to release every 20-24 months |
| 16:51.16 | valdyn | parsifal_: debian has backports.org |
| 16:51.25 | valdyn | parsifal_: it will probably be there |
| 16:51.25 | arezey | geek`n`proud`, really? hm.. |
| 16:51.32 | Schuenemann | enouf, hey, how do I avoid having to manually connect to wireless all the time I log in? Should I tell debian to run those lines at startup? iwconfig wlan0 essid network ; dhclient wlan0 |
| 16:51.44 | jelly | themill: ya, I know where the release announcement is, should I wish to read it :->, thanks |
| 16:51.45 | valdyn | Schuenemann: man interfaces |
| 16:51.51 | JordiGH | themill: Oh. |
| 16:51.52 | parsifal_ | valdyn, Yeah I ran into that when I was looking for Iceweasel v3 when I was running etch ;) |
| 16:52.08 | themill | jelly: that's not actually the release announcement though |
| 16:52.18 | JordiGH | Geek`N`Proud`: Actually, Debian tries to release every year, but achieves every 20-24 months. ;-) |
| 16:53.23 | enouf | Schuenemann: how do you login? |
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| 16:53.33 | Schuenemann | enouf, gdm |
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| 16:53.35 | TuX11 | Hi! |
| 16:53.38 | Schuenemann | valdyn, ok, I'll see |
| 16:53.53 | jelly | themill: yup, the wording implies the releases might have to bump the major number |
| 16:54.04 | TuX11 | dependencies in debian unstable seem broken, can anyone confirm? |
| 16:54.13 | jelly | TuX11: that's normal! |
| 16:54.57 | TuX11 | just wanted to install debian from scratch but can't even install packages like nautilus or totem |
| 16:55.08 | themill | dpkg: tell TuX11 about install sid |
| 16:55.14 | jelly | TuX11: from scratch? |
| 16:55.22 | enouf | Schuenemann: so, either either tweak your interfaces as mentioned (/msg dpkg interfaces) ; or see System > preferences > sesssions . or use /etc/rc.local (listed in best to worst) |
| 16:55.46 | nkuttler | TuX11: that's why you install the software you need before upgrading to unstable |
| 16:56.08 | TuX11 | jelly: i installed minimal system and currently try to install a minimal gnome-desktop as the metapackage installs too much things i don't need |
| 16:56.24 | TuX11 | ah, ok, never tried that though |
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| 16:57.03 | Schuenemann | enouf, I'll take a look. These man pages lack examples sometimes |
| 16:58.05 | enouf | Schuenemann: so; write some examples and submit them |
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| 16:58.09 | jimpy | im trying to find djbdns in apt, dpkg is telling me the package is at djbdns-installer however i cant seem to find it |
| 16:58.38 | Schuenemann | enouf, heh... ok. Btw, where do I submit translation corrections? |
| 16:58.46 | enouf | dpkg: say christel sucks ass :-P |
| 16:58.46 | dpkg | christel sucks ass :-P |
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| 16:58.56 | Toba | fucking christel |
| 16:59.00 | Toba | noticing shit every fucking 6 hours |
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| 16:59.14 | petemc | oh no! text in my status window |
| 16:59.14 | parsifal_ | does that mean the server is going down? |
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| 16:59.27 | Toba | petemc: it flashes in my xchat |
| 16:59.31 | petemc | unlucky |
| 16:59.33 | Toba | and i have to check to see what the hell people are saying |
| 16:59.40 | Schuenemann | parsifal_, services only, he said |
| 16:59.46 | themill | Toba: please try to be constructive. Remember that the freenode staff are volunteers. |
| 16:59.51 | Toba | it's an xchat problem really |
| 16:59.51 | parsifal_ | Schuenemann, I don't know what services are :\ |
| 17:00.00 | Toba | it should have options to differentiate PMs from notices |
| 17:00.02 | Schuenemann | parsifal_, nickserv, chanserv, etc |
| 17:00.09 | Toba | and filter whether it alerts the user |
| 17:00.10 | parsifal_ | Schuenemann, ahhhh.. thanks |
| 17:00.15 | Schuenemann | well, at least that's what I understand :D |
| 17:00.18 | Toba | I was just joining in the complain-athon |
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| 17:00.24 | parsifal_ | Toba, Yeah I got that flashy too, I was looking around for my messages :) |
| 17:00.53 | Toba | yeah, FLASH SOMEONE IS ATTEMPTING COMMUNICATION oh wait it's a broadcast message that I don't care about! |
| 17:01.04 | Toba | good thing I diverted my attention. |
| 17:01.09 | hark | jimpy: which debian version? |
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| 17:01.22 | jimpy | etch |
| 17:01.24 | stew | themill: this one's even completely my fault. i goofed and they are having to roll back the database |
| 17:01.36 | themill | !blame stew |
| 17:01.36 | dpkg | blames dub and stew for all the evil in the world |
| 17:01.40 | themill | oops! |
| 17:01.55 | stew | themill: how often should I be running the piccy cron? |
| 17:02.12 | hark | jimpy: it's in backports |
| 17:02.39 | jimpy | hark: aw, ok. |
| 17:02.47 | jimpy | hark: thanks. |
| 17:02.51 | themill | stew: How fresh do you want the data? It's a slowly changing data set so it's not a great issue. But once a new kernel hits sid or migrates to testing then we want to know about it I guess. |
| 17:02.55 | hark | jimpy: wait, contrib |
| 17:03.18 | themill | stew: Perhaps it would be better to run it off a trigger that the kernel packages are updated... |
| 17:03.39 | hark | jimpy: ah, no backports it is ;) |
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| 17:04.18 | themill | stew: depends on whether you care about the bandwidth, really. If you ran it behind an apt-cacher or some sort then there would be no harm in running it daily. |
| 17:04.29 | linuxguy | how do you add to the sudoers file please in lenny? |
| 17:04.34 | TuX11 | does debian experience this kernel regression concerning sil2323? |
| 17:04.35 | jimpy | hark: lol. |
| 17:04.40 | jimpy | hark: thanks again |
| 17:04.51 | hark | np |
| 17:04.53 | valdyn | linuxguy: run visudo |
| 17:05.02 | jimpy | linuxguy: visudo is the preferred method |
| 17:05.03 | stew | themill: yeah, bandwidth is not a problem, i'll just run it daily |
| 17:05.26 | themill | stew: :) |
| 17:05.44 | tryfan | Hi All, I'm trying to boot lenny off of the hd-media/initrd.gz / vmlinuz images. When it boots, it continually tries to find the iso. I put it in the same dir as the images ( /boot/newinstall ) and also in the root of that partition, same result. any ideas? |
| 17:06.30 | themill | stew: It's about 130MB per update and would take about 5-10min to complete, most of which is net i/o and then some disk i/o. I guess it would be even better if the updater knew what packages it had already for each release and skipped those releases, wouldn't it. |
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| 17:07.11 | stew | themill: probably, but its not a huge deal |
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| 17:07.23 | themill | I'll put it on the todo list for a rainy day. |
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| 17:09.26 | lbt | In a control file could Standards-Version: 3.8.0 influence the version of python that is used in a build? |
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| 17:09.56 | lbt | compared to -Standards-Version: 3.7.3 |
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| 17:10.35 | stew | themill: oh, 12.27s user 3.01s system 28% cpu 53.943 total ; that's a no-brainer |
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| 17:11.14 | themill | stew: yah what? No way it could be that fast. |
| 17:11.31 | Seb | anyone else seeing acroread (from marillat's repository) hanging badly on sid these days ? It doesn't react to mouse input at all, and call only be killed with -9. Doesn't matter if I start it with "acroread" or "acroread foo.pdf", by the way... |
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| 17:11.47 | cirzgamanti` | hi, why is there no lame package in testing? |
| 17:12.33 | cirzgamanti` | or, asked another way, what's the replacement? |
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| 17:13.20 | jelly | cirzgamanti`: lame from debian-multimedia.org? |
| 17:13.28 | cirzgamanti` | thx |
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| 17:14.03 | cirzgamanti` | i forgot about this, had this on an earlier debian |
| 17:16.33 | themill | stew: the update will have failed because there's currently no kernel in sid. |
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| 17:17.48 | themill | (at least, not for i386, I think there's an amd64 kernel) |
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| 17:18.05 | Laeborg | hi |
| 17:18.56 | lbt | Trying to fix a bug and the only change is that the build control specifies a Standards Version of 3.8.0, up from 3.7.3 - would this make it use python2.5 instead of python2.4? |
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| 17:19.00 | Laeborg | today i started to download the packages to upgrade from kde 4.1 to kde 4.2, but my wlan0 crashed when i was downloading the files, and now i can get wlan to work |
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| 17:19.42 | Laeborg | then i plugged in a ethernet cabel and finished my upgrade, but it still not working |
| 17:19.49 | themill | lbt: no, but building in lenny/squeeze/sid instead of etch will make that change |
| 17:20.19 | lbt | ok this bug: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=516036 seems to be down to that |
| 17:20.49 | g00se | sudo ldapadd -x -W -f newentry gives "ldap_bind: Invalid credentials (49)" when i use the pw that i configured for admin on install. What's wrong? |
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| 17:23.01 | tryfan | iso-scan just keeps going over and over |
| 17:23.26 | nkuttler | !tell Laeborg about errors |
| 17:23.45 | Laeborg | oh sorry |
| 17:24.07 | Laeborg | well i can find my network, but when i try to connect to it, it just times out after sometimes |
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| 17:40.01 | igrek | noob question: is there a package providing /etc/init.d script for configuring iptables? |
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| 17:42.54 | g00se_ | igrek: init.d? Probably not. Have a look at uruk maybe |
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| 17:47.19 | cirzgamanti` | so why's dillo not in debian any more? it's a nice minimalistic browser :) |
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| 17:48.16 | igrek | g00se_: thanks, but this is not exactly what I'm looking for |
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| 17:49.36 | Schuenemann | should I add "deb http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian-multimedia/" my repos? A apt-get update gave me a " Unable to find expected entry contrib/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)" |
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| 17:52.17 | JBzh | I quess no CD covers had been made for lenny yet ? (looking at www.debian.org/CD/artwork/ ) |
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| 17:57.55 | plsd | I'm using Debian stable, Is installing a package from experimental really as easy as doing "aptitude install -t experimental gajim" ? Is there anything I should think about? |
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| 17:58.59 | gngkai | hi |
| 17:59.07 | gngkai | quota over nfs on debian |
| 17:59.14 | gngkai | does it work? |
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| 18:00.28 | themill | plsd: no. That's highly unlikely to work. /msg dpkg experimental ; /msg dpkg backport |
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| 18:02.18 | hyperactivething | Is it possible to make another debian partition by a) creating the partition; b) copying over some files; c) making an appropriate entry in grub's menu.lst? |
| 18:02.29 | hyperactivething | (or something along those lines) |
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| 18:03.05 | plsd | themill, thanks |
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| 18:03.36 | runa | heyas. I've remapped Mod4 to Alt_R (using xmodmap). For some reason, both Alts work as Mod4 but more strange is that I cannot use Alt+1, Alt+2 to change tabs in firefox o gnome-terminal. Any hints? |
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| 18:05.06 | dergringo | Hi. Has anyone installed Lenny on a USB device? I'd be glad to get some hints |
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| 18:08.02 | zenwryly | A server of mine failed to come back online successfully on boot because a network interface name changed. This is the second time I've been bitten by this. How can I stabilize the interface names? |
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| 18:09.10 | jelly | !tell zenwryly -about z25 |
| 18:09.37 | zenwryly | jelly: rock! Thanks |
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| 18:11.15 | juaco | hi |
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| 18:11.57 | juaco | for *local* rsync (mirror two local dirs), is plain rsync better than fire a rsync daemon and do connect to it over 127.0.0.1??? wouldn't the latter take advantage of partial file copying and/or other advanced rsync algorithms? |
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| 18:13.51 | zenwryly | jelly: hmm, for me that file already has my mac address. It also says it was generated by persistent-net-generator.rules. Any idea, then, why my interface names changed? |
| 18:13.54 | vinograd19 | I try to install Debioan 5.0 on old laptop via netInstaller. There is no ethernet and wifi, but I have a PC-Card (d-link dwl-g650+) How can I use ndiswrapper to include drivers during installation? |
| 18:14.01 | vinograd19 | hello btw |
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| 18:16.14 | dergringo | vinograd19, The dwl-g60 is atheros based AFAIK? |
| 18:16.18 | dergringo | g650 |
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| 18:17.08 | jelly | zenwryly: it has your mac address under what interface name? |
| 18:17.28 | zenwryly | jelly: yup |
| 18:17.31 | micekiller | hi there, does anyone know sth about graphical artifacts showing up in iceweasel recently in sid? e.g. http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/1939/iceweaselartifacts.png |
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| 18:18.01 | jelly | zenwryly: WHAT interface NAME=? |
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| 18:19.09 | zenwryly | jelly: oh, sorry, misread. 'SUBSYSTEM=="net", DRIVERS=="?*", SYSFS{address}=="00:10:4b:94:0d:00", NAME="eth1"' |
| 18:19.22 | jelly | zenwryly: and do you want it to be eth1? |
| 18:19.41 | zenwryly | jelly: well, *now* yes |
| 18:20.07 | zenwryly | jelly: but I didn't add this file before the last boot and the interface changed |
| 18:20.24 | jelly | zenwryly: then it's all right. If you wanted it to be eth0, you'd have to change that entry and the one that now says eth0. |
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| 18:20.47 | jelly | zenwryly: this usually happens when you change your hardware setup. |
| 18:21.13 | zenwryly | jelly: no hardware changes, just a reboot |
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| 18:21.21 | AliTarihi | Which library contains XFlush, XGetAtomName, XMapWindow functions. I have a compile error |
| 18:21.23 | zenwryly | jelly: well I'll just see if it's stable from now |
| 18:21.30 | zenwryly | jelly: thanks |
| 18:22.03 | g00se_ | sudo ldapadd -x -W -f newentry gives "ldap_bind: Invalid credentials (49)" when i use the pw that i configured for admin on install. What's wrong? |
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| 18:23.33 | jelly | zenwryly: I guess it's possible your card spontaneously changed its mac address (?) |
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| 18:23.36 | indro | hi all |
| 18:23.42 | indro | any idea how to resolve this? |
| 18:24.07 | indro | http://rafb.net/p/v6UVnH48.html |
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| 18:25.16 | zenwryly | jelly: don't know much about that, but it *sounds* unlikely :) |
| 18:25.22 | vinograd19 | On what installation Cd (DVD) Debian Lenny can I find a LXDE? |
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| 18:25.52 | Hohlraum | I installed a base system, will the gnome-desktop-environment package get me everything that selecting 'desktop' would have? or is there another meta package I need |
| 18:25.56 | zenwryly | jelly: could the auto-generation of that file have been retriggered something? |
| 18:26.21 | AliTarihi | @j #xorg |
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| 18:26.57 | jelly | zenwryly: what else is present in there? |
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| 18:27.32 | zenwryly | jelly: three other ifaces, 4 total |
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| 18:29.01 | adama | Hohlraum: you want: apt-get install xserver-xorg gnome |
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| 18:29.48 | Hohlraum | adama: noticed there were a bunch of 'recommends' with gnome. does apt-get default to install them or is there a switch? |
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| 18:30.04 | jelly | zenwryly: well, are any of them eth0? |
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| 18:30.19 | zenwryly | jelly: 'SUBSYSTEM=="net", DRIVERS=="?*", SYSFS{address}=="00:10:4b:8e:c2:90", NAME="eth0"' |
| 18:30.20 | jelly | zenwryly: how many physical interfaces does the machine have? |
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| 18:30.31 | zenwryly | jelly: 3 plus firewire |
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| 18:31.23 | jelly | zenwryly: was there a switch-around after the last reboot, or did eth0 just disappear? |
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| 18:31.40 | jelly | ... got renamed to eth1, I mean |
| 18:32.37 | zenwryly | jelly: it was a switch |
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| 18:32.59 | zenwryly | jelly: if it means anything, they're the same kind of card, same dirver |
| 18:33.29 | jelly | zenwryly: oh. I guess it could be this was the first time the file had been generated. Did you change kernels or upgrade the distro? |
| 18:34.11 | zenwryly | jelly: yeah, probably both |
| 18:34.54 | zenwryly | jelly: so I'm guessing it will be stable from now |
| 18:35.09 | jelly | zenwryly: unless you change hardware, right |
| 18:35.40 | zenwryly | jelly: ok, thanks a lot for your time |
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| 18:37.06 | onur | Hi. I have a question. Is squeeze equal the testing? Are there any difference between using testing or squeeze in sources.list? |
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| 18:37.25 | _abc_ | how can i make my etch+kde react to micro sd drives inserted into a sd adapter ? the new device shows up in fdisk -l but no desktop icon is created ? |
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| 18:39.12 | zzz | Hi! I' ve a 64 bit machine installed with a 32 bit debian lenny linux. Inside the machine is 8GB ram, but now only 3GB is viewable / useable. If i install kernel with bigmem support, will i be able to see the rest 5 GB ram? |
| 18:39.38 | TuX11 | zzz: Yes you will |
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| 18:40.03 | vn | hi, [notice] child pid 2928 exit signal Segmentation fault (11) <=== when visiting my pic gallery, since the dist-upgrade...what can I do? |
| 18:40.05 | zzz | TuX11: So if i install the right kernel with bigmem support, everything will be fine hopefully. Okay, thanks. |
| 18:40.17 | vn | thats in the apache's error.log |
| 18:40.28 | TuX11 | zzz: But unless you really need it, there's is no advantage |
| 18:40.50 | jelly | zzz: you could also install and use an -amd64 kernel package. |
| 18:40.51 | zzz | TuX11: Do You mean the rest 5 GB ram? |
| 18:40.56 | TuX11 | yes |
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| 18:41.47 | jelly | zzz: (there are 64bit kernel packages in the 32bit distro) |
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| 18:42.28 | jelly | judd: versions linux-image-2.6-amd64 --arch i386 |
| 18:42.29 | judd | jelly: linux-image-2.6-amd64 -- etch: 2.6.18+6etch3 etch-security: 2.6.18+6etch3 etch-backports: 2.6.26+17~bpo40+1 lenny: 2.6.26+17 sid: 2.6.26+17 squeeze: 2.6.26+17 |
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| 18:42.41 | jimmio | Hello all. Why exactly is it that there's no option for GDebi in the Open With thing for a .deb file? Why the hell isn't that the default and how the hell can I set it as default? It's really annoying... |
| 18:42.58 | jelly | Hell-o indeed. |
| 18:43.04 | zzz | jelly: i found this: linux-image-2.6.26-1-amd64 , but could You please tell me why is it good to install it instead of linux-image-2.6.26 ? |
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| 18:43.34 | jelly | zzz: there is no "linux-image-2.6.26" |
| 18:44.01 | zzz | jelly: I meant: linux-image-2.6.26-1-686-bigmem. You' re right. |
| 18:44.45 | jelly | zzz: bigmem uses PAE and supposedly incurs a performance penalty. I haven't benchmarked. |
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| 18:45.45 | zzz | I understand. Maybe the best would be to install an amd64 debian, right? |
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| 18:46.05 | jelly | zzz: it depends on what the machine is going to be used for. |
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| 18:46.39 | jelly | zzz: some workloads fare better with 32bit, some with 64bit |
| 18:46.53 | zzz | jelly: this is a simply webserver with lamp. |
| 18:47.14 | jelly | zzz: if it were a server, I'd say go with amd64 |
| 18:47.37 | jelly | zzz: if you already have i386 set up, try just using an amd64 kernel. |
| 18:49.17 | zzz | well, i think, too, that amd64 would be better, but from far i cannot install it, right? Or maybe if i make a debootstrap onto a partition (i' ve ip consol for it), but this is dangerous. |
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| 18:50.45 | jelly | you call, I wouldn't bother reinstalling if there were some hours put into configuring it already ;-) |
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| 18:52.36 | compy | debian fonts r smaller than ubuntu |
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| 18:52.57 | rwaite | just the 'r'? |
| 18:53.25 | compy | yeah |
| 18:53.32 | compy | nope |
| 18:53.35 | compy | yep nop |
| 18:53.41 | wedge | If I remove all hardlinks associated with an inode, will that inode be re-used / freed and data block overwritten eventually? |
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| 18:54.16 | compy | i meant the whole shit |
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| 18:54.57 | compy | bitchass |
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| 18:55.15 | hoxu | compy, do you have a debian-related question? |
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| 18:55.26 | hoxu | wedge, yes, if you ln and then rm, the space is freed |
| 18:55.27 | compy | too many |
| 18:56.21 | compy | how do i add iceweasel to xfce panel, |
| 18:56.36 | amphi | rwaite: ;) |
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| 18:59.32 | zrin | I've upgraded from etch+backports to lenny, now I cannot connect to samba [homes] share (!?!); connecting to other shares works normally. I've checked ldap, groups, users, schema, indexes, ACLs, paths, logs with loglevel 3 ... still no clue :( - I'll be thankful for any hint |
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| 19:01.45 | dimi3 | Hello, the ia64 edition stands for what? |
| 19:01.56 | sernin | Itanium. |
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| 19:02.32 | dimi3 | sernin: thanks! I was trying to install it on core2duo and I was wondering what the ..? :) |
| 19:02.38 | sernin | if you're looking for x86-64 you want the amd64 branch |
| 19:02.48 | dimi3 | sernin: yep! |
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| 19:06.08 | rindolf | Hi all. |
| 19:06.10 | kopf | Hi, I've installed debian lenny inside VMWare. I can ping www.google.com and get responses (so i can do DNS lookups and everything) but when i try wget http://www.google.com , it can't connect to port 80 on google |
| 19:06.33 | kopf | anyone ever come across something similar? the interface is DHCP enabled |
| 19:06.41 | rindolf | Does anyone know a Debian mirror close to Israel (Europe, etc.) that supports byte-ranges (i.e: wget -c, curl -C -, etc.)? |
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| 19:07.06 | frankS2 | how can i compile freebsd binaries on debian? |
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| 19:08.05 | jelly | rindolf: you can always try http://http.{uk,fr,de,it,es,...}.debian.org/ yourself, I guess :-| |
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| 19:08.18 | rindolf | jelly: ah. |
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| 19:08.23 | Schuenemann | !flash |
| 19:08.23 | dpkg | [flash] frequently used to deliver interactivity, audio and video through a web browser. Ask me about <gnash> or <swfdec> for free implementations or <adobe flash> for a non-free implementation. Also see http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer |
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| 19:08.53 | Spectre | hi, does exist something like EasyPHP for linux? |
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| 19:10.01 | QWonder | i see plenty of mozilla stuff and firefox-adblock in aptitude but I don't see firefox, i'm using the default repository, is somethingw wrong or is there just no firefox package? |
| 19:10.33 | igrek | ,iceweasel |
| 19:10.34 | frankS2 | its called iceweasel |
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| 19:10.54 | igrek | !iceweasel |
| 19:10.54 | dpkg | rumour has it, iceweasel is the name of a DFSG-free fork of Firefox, which replaces Firefox in Debian starting from Etch. It is different from GNU's version of Firefox, which formerly had the same name but is now known as IceCat (http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla/). To learn about the reasons for the fork, ask me about <why iceweasel>. |
| 19:10.56 | craigevil | iceweasel=firefox |
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| 19:11.09 | QWonder | oh, thanks |
| 19:11.25 | rindolf | Hi all. |
| 19:11.29 | QWonder | !DFSG |
| 19:11.29 | dpkg | methinks dfsg is the Debian Free Software Guidelines, which can be found at http://www.debian.org/intro/free, or http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines |
| 19:11.38 | rgr | my "stop-xscreensave=1" line in my .mplayer/config is not working. Is there another way to stop screensaver kicking in when mplayer is playing?? |
| 19:11.44 | Deepy | How do I make something happen as soon as I start my computer? |
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| 19:11.50 | rindolf | Can anyone try to run {{{ curl -C - -o debian-500-i386-CD-1.iso http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.0/i386/iso-cd/debian-500-i386-CD-1.iso }}} ctrl-c it at the start, and run it again, and tell me what happens? |
| 19:12.27 | hoxu | Deepy, be more specific. What do you need to do? As what user? |
| 19:12.29 | QWonder | can i uninstall epiphany or is it tied into a lot of stuff like ie? |
| 19:12.30 | zrin | Deepy: modify BIOS? |
| 19:12.35 | dingus9 | any one know what applications-merged directory is used for... I have a bunch of them showing up in my home directory, inside another dir with illegal char names like ?? or the box char etc. I can delete them, but I am getting tired of doing it |
| 19:13.01 | rgr | Has anyone here succesfully had mplayer disable the xscreensaver? |
| 19:13.07 | Deepy | root, ifconfig eth0:1 |
| 19:13.18 | jimmio | Hello all. Why exactly is it that there's no option for GDebi in the Open With thing for a .deb file? What do I do to set it as the default program? What's the actual program name? |
| 19:13.20 | Deepy | Or well, I need to get eth0:1 up and working as soon as my computer is done |
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| 19:14.26 | zrin | Deppy: would editing /etc/network/interfaces do? |
| 19:14.30 | dingus9 | Deepy: you need to put it in /etc/init.d/ then make a simlink to you rc.S dir |
| 19:14.40 | Kamaze | Hey, i'm somewhat lost in the documentation, how can i boot the debain netinstall cd without the framebuffer? (i.e. Textmode)? |
| 19:14.49 | dingus9 | or what zrin said might work |
| 19:15.06 | Deepy | Editing /etc/network/interfaces would do |
| 19:15.07 | Kamaze | With Ctrl+C I'm now on the "boot:" prompt and stuck there :( |
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| 19:15.31 | hoxu | Deepy, man 5 interfaces, you can use "post-up"... but if it's normal subinterface you need you don't need post-up |
| 19:15.36 | dingus9 | Deepy: I usually prefer to keep my interfaces stuff clean as they get changed on package upgrades... A seporate script remains however |
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| 19:15.49 | Deepy | Just a headsup, it |
| 19:15.53 | Deepy | s a virtual interface |
| 19:16.04 | dingus9 | Deepy: right |
| 19:16.06 | dingus9 | alias |
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| 19:16.26 | hoxu | Deepy, aka subinterface. Just add a "eth0:1" section in interfaces |
| 19:16.46 | Schuenemann | what is the correct way to install flash 10 and make it work with iceweasel? I installed package flashplayer-mozilla but iceweasel still uses the default player |
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| 19:17.24 | dingus9 | Deepy: either way if you make a seporate script and place in into your rc.S dir... then you can control when it happens... that being said, I am not a debian maintaner so I could be doing it incorrectly... but it works for me |
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| 19:18.08 | Deepy | I added a |
| 19:18.09 | Deepy | 20:17 allow-hotplug eth0:1 |
| 19:18.09 | Deepy | 20:17 iface eth0:1 inet static |
| 19:18.10 | Deepy | etc etc |
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| 19:18.26 | Deepy | But that doesn't work |
| 19:18.32 | dingus9 | Deepy: you sure |
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| 19:18.41 | hoxu | !doesn't work |
| 19:18.41 | dpkg | Look buddy, "doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message". |
| 19:18.54 | hoxu | Deepy, did you "ifup eth0:1"? |
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| 19:19.01 | Deepy | Yes, claims it to be unknown |
| 19:19.06 | dingus9 | ah |
| 19:19.26 | Deepy | And I'd say that's pretty much 'not working at all' and yet be very specialized |
| 19:19.31 | hoxu | Deepy, pastebin the interfaces file, as well as the command you run and its output |
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| 19:21.13 | zepard | valdyn: thaks to you I spent a good eveneing yesterday on gdb :) |
| 19:22.00 | rgr | gdb is one of the few apps I would really recommend buying the gnu printed book for reference. really powerful. |
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| 19:22.11 | dingus9 | Deepy: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-creating-or-adding-new-network-alias-to-a-network-card-nic/ looks like a good read in see the debian section |
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| 19:23.08 | Deepy | dingus9: that's what I've done |
| 19:23.20 | dingus9 | ah ok |
| 19:23.24 | wintix | so. here i am again with my ipv6 problem. i did a bit of researching and testing and foudn out, that i can't add more than 4096 ipv6 addresses on my debian 64bit box. right after hitting the magic number, i get the error: " RTNETLINK answers: Cannot allocate memory " any hints on getting around that barrier? |
| 19:23.29 | dingus9 | Deepy: just checking |
| 19:23.38 | dingus9 | did yo pastebin it yet? |
| 19:23.57 | Deepy | Gotta move the computer first |
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| 19:24.00 | Deepy | brb |
| 19:24.09 | wintix | for those who haven't followed last night: i need to have about 6-30k ipv6 addresses on one box. |
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| 19:24.41 | dingus9 | Deepy: buy a laptop ;) hehe |
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| 19:25.19 | dingus9 | wintix: what are you doing? |
| 19:25.22 | Schuenemann | hi, I installed flashplayer-mozilla but iceweasel is still using sfwdec. How can I change this? |
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| 19:26.59 | batman_ramirez | how can i give user permission to use poweroff or reboot |
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| 19:27.07 | wintix | dingus9: well. consider a shared hosting environment. consider having a few people sitting on that box. consider each of those people having some domains for which you want to have seperate ipv6 addresses for greater fun with ssl. |
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| 19:29.58 | zepard | batman_ramirez: powerdev group? |
| 19:30.05 | zepard | donno |
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| 19:30.53 | \amethyst | batman_ramirez: the powerdev group gives them the ability to shutdown through HAL (for example, in gdm or gnome), but not to use the command-line programs |
| 19:32.15 | \amethyst | batman_ramirez: if you use sudo you can add something like %powerdev ALL=(root) /sbin/shutdown to your sudoers |
| 19:32.17 | Kamaze | Again, is there i chance to boot the debian netinstall-cd in textmode? I'm trying to install it as a KVM guest and have no Framebuffer... :( |
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| 19:34.19 | Laeborg-lap | apt-get remove libwine wine |
| 19:34.21 | \amethyst | batman_ramirez: then members of powerdev can do e.g. sudo shutdown -h now ; you probably don't want to grant access to poweroff, reboot, and halt directly, since halt -nf can be dangerous |
| 19:34.27 | Laeborg-lap | et: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem |
| 19:35.11 | et | Laeborg-lap: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem |
| 19:36.10 | dingus9 | wintix: ah ic :) |
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| 19:36.45 | QWonder | when i press the volume up/down buttons on my keyboard it changes Master, is there any way to change that? on my machine Master doesn't actually do anything but PC Speaker does |
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| 19:37.29 | zepard | \amethyst: why is it dangerous to do halt -nf, a harm for device? |
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| 19:38.00 | QWonder | couldn't it corrupt the file system? |
| 19:38.07 | \amethyst | zepard: it doesn't stop running processes and it doesn't flush unwritten changes to disk. it's more or less like yanking the power plug |
| 19:38.19 | bier_ | is there a way to find out on what date i installed debian on my machine? |
| 19:38.29 | \amethyst | QWonder: hopefully not if you have a journaling FS, but that doesn't prevent data loss |
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| 19:38.41 | dingus9 | any one know how to prevent a specific app run by user x from writing to that users home dir, while still allowing it to write to it's .app dir |
| 19:38.53 | dingus9 | know how = have any ideas |
| 19:39.33 | zepard | \amethyst: is it for a "last chance" stopping process? |
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| 19:40.13 | phcoder | Hello, all. I'm trying to install debian-ppc on imac g3. At first installer hanged trying to load firewire modules so I removed /lib/modules/*/drivers/ieee1394. Now it doesn't detect my network ("UniNorth GMAC (Sun Gem) (rev ff) (prog-if ff)") Trying to modprobe sungem never finiches but doesn't hang the computer. Does anyone have an idea? |
| 19:40.48 | zepard | \amethyst: I mean, when is it usefull? |
| 19:40.48 | nrich | anyone have experience with clonezilla pxe setups? |
| 19:40.59 | \amethyst | zepard: I'm not sure why you'd use it... maybe if you just started to delete something important and wanted to make sure the changes don't get written to disk |
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| 19:42.05 | zepard | :) |
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| 19:43.07 | beautifulsnow | Anyone know how to find out what driver my mouse uses? (Its not working right now, but xorg.conf looks okay0 |
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| 19:43.19 | DMZ_ | hi |
| 19:44.00 | DMZ_ | iam wondering if i can make my home directory as fat32 so it can be read by my linux and windows? |
| 19:44.13 | dingus9 | beautifulsnow: cmdline cat your mouse devices first to see if they spit out tons of garbage when you move them... you may need to run reset afterwards |
| 19:44.14 | phcoder | beautifulsnow: there is a generic driver per mouse type (ps2,usb,...) |
| 19:44.17 | valdyn | beautifulsnow: cat /dev/input/mice, move mouse, see what happens |
| 19:44.32 | dingus9 | like valdyn: |
| 19:45.14 | beautifulsnow | phcoder, yeah but when I do sudo modprove mouse, it says not found. I will try those other suggestions, wish me luck! |
| 19:45.21 | phcoder | DMZ_: not a good idea. Some programs assume that home is on FS supporting permissions |
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| 19:45.29 | nkuttler | DMZ_: i think vfat will mean that everything is 777. bad idea |
| 19:45.35 | joe-mac | is anybody using partman-auto-raid successfully? |
| 19:45.55 | phcoder | beatifulsnow: no modprobe for mouse. It's configured via xorg |
| 19:46.00 | jelly | beautifulsnow: also, which debian release, versions of xserver-xorg and xserver-xorg-mouse? |
| 19:46.17 | jelly | phcoder: er, xserver-xorg-input-mousre |
| 19:46.17 | beautifulsnow | phcoder, yeah, but if the driver is not found, how is xorg going to load it? |
| 19:46.25 | DMZ_ | so will i have my videos saved twice on my harddrive in my fat32 and home for linux or can i save them once to be read by both and can read and write in both OS's? |
| 19:46.29 | jelly | fails and at typing and leaves |
| 19:46.32 | valdyn | beautifulsnow: did you do what we suggested? |
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| 19:47.05 | phcoder | beatifulsnow: mouse drivers are in xorg. It only needs that kernel exports corresponding port |
| 19:47.13 | valdyn | DMZ_: in linux, a user is not limted to wring to his $HOME |
| 19:47.29 | valdyn | DMZ_: so why dont you save the video just in that fat32 partition instead of $HOME ? |
| 19:48.18 | beautifulsnow | jelly lennny (5), going through each of the eventX to see if I get garbage |
| 19:48.18 | DMZ_ | valdyn: but sometimes my linux doesn't read fat32? |
| 19:48.18 | beautifulsnow | valdyn, ^ |
| 19:48.18 | valdyn | DMZ_: i dont believe you |
| 19:48.18 | beautifulsnow | Sorry Im dazed today :) |
| 19:48.26 | valdyn | beautifulsnow: theres "mice", you dont need to try the others yet |
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| 19:48.36 | DMZ_ | valdyn: it sees it but access denies using it |
| 19:48.44 | valdyn | !vfatrw |
| 19:48.44 | dpkg | To get write access to a vfat partition when mounting it with fstab, use the line "/dev/partition /mount/point vfat defaults,uid=USERID,gid=GROUPID,umask=002 0 0" in /etc/fstab. umask=002 will make the partition rwxrwxr-x, while umask=022 will make it rwxr-xr-x. Get your user/group ids with the command "id" |
| 19:48.54 | beautifulsnow | jelly it says not found when I check for version xserver-etc.etc so maybe that's my problem :P I guess I should mention I've got a trackpad (which im using right now) |
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| 19:49.51 | jelly | beautifulsnow: pastebin the output of "dpkg -l libc6 xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-input-mouse xserver-xorg-input-evdev |tail -4", your /var/log/Xorg.0.log and your /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
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| 19:51.49 | matt7676 | how to view IPv6 traffic using netstat? |
| 19:51.51 | QWonder | alright, i was messing around with the keyboard shortcuts and which volume they control and i had it setup so that the volume control on the keyboard would actually change the right thing for my speakers but the mute would still only mute master, which doesn't actually mute my speakers |
| 19:51.55 | beautifulsnow | Im really slow when I use this trackpad, sorry. 3 paste bins coming! |
| 19:53.22 | QWonder | i was playing around with it and it finally muted the speakers.... and now it won't unmute, when i press the button the keyboard it just always says mute, i can't use the volume control buttons to turn it back up, right clicking the volume control and clicking unmute doesn't work, opening the volue control and pressing the unmute button makes it look like it's unmuting for an instant but then it just goes back to the muted icon. i have no |
| 19:53.24 | QWonder | what should i do? |
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| 19:55.00 | beautifulsnow | jelly http://paste.debian.net/29125/ http://paste.debian.net/29123/ Second! Missing list of input devices in xorg.conf >_< ~!!! Let me edit that one |
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| 19:55.42 | jelly | beautifulsnow: libc6 2.9-3 # this is NOT a lenny libc6 |
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| 19:56.16 | beautifulsnow | Hmmm I don't know what that means |
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| 19:57.13 | jelly | beautifulsnow: it means you have, or had, unstable in your sources.list and have installed at least one package from it. |
| 19:57.23 | QWonder | alsamixer lists something called "Auto Mut" that's always on 0, and i can't turn it up |
| 19:58.07 | parsifal_ | auto mute? haha |
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| 19:58.21 | parsifal_ | it's always mute, for your convenience |
| 19:58.27 | beautifulsnow | jelly, had. but I broke the mouse before I tried the unstable thing |
| 19:58.47 | beautifulsnow | Because I was trying to get the media buttons to work |
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| 19:59.02 | flami | Hi, Im trying to generate a sha1sum, but when I di "echo a | sha1sum" I get something like 3f786... but it should be 86f7e4..... if i remeber right. |
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| 19:59.08 | jelly | beautifulsnow: we always find out. Also, you're not really running lenny any more. |
| 19:59.12 | flami | am i doing something terribly wrong ? |
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| 19:59.36 | hoxu | beautifulsnow, congratulations, you've just become an unstable user... oops, there goes the warranty ! |
| 19:59.47 | jelly | what warranty? |
| 19:59.50 | beautifulsnow | I thought there was NO warranty! :P |
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| 20:00.02 | flami | well the warranty that says that you have absoluteöly no warranty |
| 20:00.12 | flami | ... I need to get out |
| 20:00.14 | beautifulsnow | Right |
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| 20:00.43 | hoxu | jelly, the one that says you will offer support on debian-related problems :P |
| 20:00.46 | Mikaze | Anyone remember how people used to print addresses on envelopes before GUIs came around? |
| 20:01.12 | jelly | hoxu: oh THAT warranty! Right, see ya chaps, I'm gone! |
| 20:01.29 | jelly | runs away warrantlessly |
| 20:01.33 | maligor | Mikaze, a pen? |
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| 20:01.43 | beautifulsnow | hmmm shoudln't the module mouse be installed anyway? :P |
| 20:02.46 | Mikaze | maligor: If it were only that easy when you're blind. <grins> |
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| 20:04.40 | jimmio | O.O Why is it lshw isn't found...? |
| 20:05.00 | Mikaze | Because you need to install it? |
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| 20:05.52 | QWonder | where does alsamixer store it's settings? |
| 20:05.52 | jimmio | Oh... wow... I had figured it was installed ;P |
| 20:06.00 | Mikaze | Know lshw isn't installed automatically. |
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| 20:06.11 | hoxu | !installit |
| 20:06.11 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! *** Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. If someone suggests an application to you, it's highly likely that it's available via apt-get or aptitude. |
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| 20:06.36 | beautifulsnow | Do you have a factoid for mouse drivers? ;p |
| 20:06.38 | jimmio | >_> Sorry, I'm just used to Ubuntu. |
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| 20:08.23 | hoxu | beautifulsnow, no, but I think we have a factoid for "accidental" unstable upgrades |
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| 20:08.27 | hoxu | "upgrades" |
| 20:08.32 | hoxu | !flw |
| 20:08.32 | dpkg | <spldart> been overclocking for years <pipeline> spldart: You've probably been an idiot since birth. The length of time involved isn't really the point. < spldart> this machine is 24/7 overclock for 3 years |
| 20:08.43 | beautifulsnow | hoxu, that wasnt accidental |
| 20:09.00 | hoxu | that isn't helping your case :P |
| 20:09.15 | beautifulsnow | hoxu, you want to be rude, but the mouse problem was, yes, it was caused by myself, but it was DAYS before I tried to upgrade to unstable |
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| 20:09.49 | hoxu | beautifulsnow, nah, but the point is, now that you've upgraded some packages to unstable versions, you are basically running unstable, there's no going back |
| 20:10.15 | beautifulsnow | hoxu, well, it's not like I'm going to die if I spend 15 minutes reinstalling debian, oh, yes, that would kill me |
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| 20:10.47 | hoxu | good to hear ! |
| 20:10.55 | beautifulsnow | hoxu, but if I do, I want to figure out this mouse thing, so I don't have to spend 15 minutes every day reinstalling debian |
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| 20:11.57 | beautifulsnow | I figured, "well, I can't figure out how to make the mouse work, so I might as well play a little, since I'll probably reinstall". Ooh boy, I'm a horrible person |
| 20:12.13 | hoxu | try asking the original question, and pasting xorg.conf, someone should be able to help you |
| 20:13.02 | beautifulsnow | Its not the xorg, as I've said. The mouse driver is "not found". I have reconfigured xorg (with the command commented out on xorg.conf) |
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| 20:14.10 | valdyn | beautifulsnow: so did you try the "cat /dev/input/mice" ? |
| 20:14.31 | beautifulsnow | valdyn, I did, there was no output |
| 20:14.37 | Mikaze | beautifulsnow: Have you tried gpm and it's auto-detect feature? You have to point the GUI to "gpmdata" then, for it to recognize/talk with the mouse. |
| 20:14.38 | beautifulsnow | When I moved or clicked the mouse |
| 20:14.44 | nox6 | Hi, anyone tried to run debian lenny 64 ? getting tons of problems with package install |
| 20:14.58 | nox6 | (for lapto) |
| 20:15.01 | valdyn | beautifulsnow: how is that mouse connected? are you running a debian kernel or a custom kernel? |
| 20:15.03 | nox6 | *laptop |
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| 20:15.19 | valdyn | !tell nox6 -about ask |
| 20:15.23 | beautifulsnow | Xorg.conf http://paste.debian.net/29133/plain/29133 |
| 20:15.34 | beautifulsnow | Mikaze, I have not, let me read some more about that :) TY |
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| 20:15.50 | valdyn | beautifulsnow: that Xorg.conf is irrelevant when the mice device already is not working |
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| 20:16.14 | beautifulsnow | sorry quit channel by accident |
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| 20:16.26 | beautifulsnow | Yes, it is irrelevant, that's what I was saying, but people werent listening :P |
| 20:16.28 | nox6 | valdyn: when doing a gnome x-window-system install, I get a resolvconf error |
| 20:16.55 | Mikaze | beautifulsnow: If you install gpm and get it to work on the command line, dpkg-reconfigure xorg and select "gpmdata" as the mouse. |
| 20:16.56 | valdyn | nox6: brilliant, now if i could see the actual error message.. |
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| 20:17.10 | thedave | hi! when grub can find my disc and kernel, but the boot itselfs fails always with "cannot open root device sda1 or unknown-block(0,0)" what may be wrong? |
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| 20:17.36 | beautifulsnow | valdyn, The mouse is connected, and it's a debian kernel 2.6.26-1-686 |
| 20:17.38 | valdyn | thedave: custom or debian kernel? |
| 20:17.46 | valdyn | beautifulsnow: HOW is the mouse connected? |
| 20:17.54 | valdyn | beautifulsnow: usb? pci? ps2 ? |
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| 20:18.07 | beautifulsnow | valdyn, Oh sorry. It's a usb wireless mouse |
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| 20:18.15 | parsifal_ | serial mouse |
| 20:18.16 | thedave | valdyn: tried a standard and custom kernel now |
| 20:18.19 | parsifal_ | two-button, ball |
| 20:18.21 | valdyn | beautifulsnow: how do you know that the mouse is working at all? |
| 20:18.35 | thedave | is there some kind of fallback kernel? |
| 20:18.36 | parsifal_ | cat /dev/mouse > /dev/dsp |
| 20:18.57 | beautifulsnow | valdyn, 1:because I know what broke it, and 2: it works on liveCD |
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| 20:19.25 | beautifulsnow | Mikaze, a cut and paste utility? ^^ * reads man gpm* |
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| 20:19.53 | valdyn | beautifulsnow: modprobe usbmouse ; modprobe evdev |
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| 20:20.32 | beautifulsnow | valdyn, then restart X? |
| 20:20.53 | Mikaze | beautifulsnow: Yep. Restart. |
| 20:21.55 | beautifulsnow | Restarting X then. Be back soon |
| 20:22.23 | karvus | anyone know if something keyboard-related happened with the Debian gnome packages lately? my numpad keys are suddenly interpreted as mouse-clicks and stuff. |
| 20:22.41 | karvus | running xev, I see the normal behaviour though |
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| 20:22.52 | beautifulsnow | No good :P |
| 20:23.16 | Mikaze | GUIs suck. |
| 20:23.34 | bahadunn | GUIs do suck |
| 20:23.40 | bahadunn | Mikaze: so true |
| 20:23.47 | beautifulsnow | You're right, I remember the time when all you needed was a cardboard keyboard,... it was so much better than |
| 20:23.48 | beautifulsnow | *then |
| 20:23.50 | bahadunn | Mikaze: I like curses though |
| 20:24.21 | Mikaze | Heh. Try using the GUI with the monitor off. |
| 20:24.36 | bahadunn | GUIs are for sissies |
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| 20:25.04 | karvus | http://www.xkcdb.com/?5088 |
| 20:25.11 | beautifulsnow | Mikaze, I've had to, before, when my CRT died. I was listening to music, having the microsoft talking avatar (forgot what its called) talking and reading my friends IMs... |
| 20:25.43 | karvus | I still need my windows to recieve the proper events from my numpad :D |
| 20:26.28 | Mikaze | Running a speakup module here through a voice synthesizer. the Orca screen reader in Linux blows chunks. |
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| 20:27.29 | peleg | Hello there. Do you know of a good method of printing/displaying .ics files? (calendar files, used in sunbird, evoulution, etc.) |
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| 20:28.55 | Mikaze | Sideways/landscape printing? |
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| 20:29.05 | themill | peleg: korganizer goes a really good job of doing that. |
| 20:29.12 | peleg | Mikaze, whatever |
| 20:29.33 | peleg | themill, I am trying to avoid using kxxxxx programs in my GNOME :) |
| 20:29.44 | themill | whatever. |
| 20:29.50 | bahadunn | I wonder if my view of ncurses being a GUI is right or not |
| 20:29.59 | bahadunn | does that make me extreme or something? |
| 20:30.05 | bahadunn | and I a commandline fanatic? |
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| 20:30.23 | beautifulsnow | Mikaze, gpm sounds like a dumb trick you'd play on someone |
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| 20:30.35 | peleg | I wonder if korganizer is using some libs that I can use without installing KDE's stuff |
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| 20:31.08 | Mikaze | beautifulsnow: I just know I was using gpm back in my Debian Woody days. |
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| 20:31.17 | Hatter | what happens after an unattended ext3 fsck ? a reboot ? could the pc just turn off ? |
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| 20:31.55 | beautifulsnow | Did they use kernel 1.1 back then? :) |
| 20:32.02 | nox6 | General advise seeking: Laptop Amd 64 Athlon X2 --- do I bother going with the debian amd64 port of the i386 ? |
| 20:32.05 | Mikaze | beautifulsnow: Mostly fot the command line cut-n-paste feature. |
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| 20:32.37 | Hatter | nox6, yes |
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| 20:32.44 | beautifulsnow | Mikaze, well thats no use for me if the mouse doenst work at all lol |
| 20:33.04 | beautifulsnow | ;p |
| 20:33.22 | nox6 | Hatter: yes to what? Amd64 port or i386? I tried the Amd64 and I am getting a bunch of random errors |
| 20:33.27 | nox6 | so i am just wondering if it is worth it |
| 20:33.27 | Mikaze | beautifulsnow: Boot the liveCD and do a 'lsmod' to see which mouse driver is being used. |
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| 20:33.48 | Hatter | nox6, yes the amd kernel if you have an amd cpu |
| 20:33.49 | kenalex | hello |
| 20:33.59 | kenalex | what version of python comes with lenny |
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| 20:34.15 | beautifulsnow | Mikaze, I cant didnt bring the liveCD with me, and Im at the library (no net at home). But xorg.conf says it uses "mouse" driver :/ |
| 20:34.18 | Mikaze | 2.6.26 kernel. |
| 20:34.42 | OpenTokix | kenalex: 2.5.2 |
| 20:34.51 | kenalex | ok thanks |
| 20:34.52 | beautifulsnow | Mikaze, I was trying to install logitech mouse drivers, when the mouse stopped working. So I know it was my fault. I just don't remmeber deleting "mouse" driver. |
| 20:34.53 | OpenTokix | kenalex: you can always check on http://packages.debian.org |
| 20:35.10 | kenalex | ok |
| 20:36.54 | th0ger | What distro would you recommend for 250MB usbstick. To be used mainly as a rescue stick. No gui. Prefer debian based. |
| 20:36.59 | Mikaze | I think some logitech mice use mman or ms muouse drivers...I forget which. |
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| 20:37.47 | beautifulsnow | I was trying to install lmpcm_usb driver |
| 20:37.49 | Hatter | how often should i restart squid ? I find it just stops working every now and then ? |
| 20:37.56 | beautifulsnow | Mikaze, Ill try those, Ty |
| 20:38.19 | beautifulsnow | Mikaze, sorry its just ive been trying since June or July |
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| 20:38.28 | dagobart | can anybody point me to what's the file aptitude gets the pkg descriptions from? /var/lib/dpkg/available apparently is not |
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| 20:39.06 | stew | dagobart: /var/lib/apt/lists/*Packages |
| 20:39.42 | dagobart | stew: That looks better :) Thanks for the hint. :) |
| 20:39.43 | Mikaze | beautifulsnow: Know the feeling. Finally got a printer working (it was a broken craig's list printer), and I bought it last January. |
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| 20:41.56 | Mikaze | beautifulsnow: If nothing else works, upurge the GUI and reinstall. |
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| 20:42.23 | FransUrbo | Need some help with buildd/wanna-build/sbuild... Anyone? |
| 20:42.37 | beautifulsnow | Mikaze, unpurge? apt-get purge gnome, x, etc? Then reinstall it? |
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| 20:42.48 | beautifulsnow | That sounds like it could work :) |
| 20:43.37 | Mikaze | beautifulsnow: re-run tasksel and try that after removing X. |
| 20:43.56 | lbt | any idea how to make dpkg-buildpackage add a -j3 to parallelise make? |
| 20:44.20 | beautifulsnow | .... Mikaze you're full of good ideas :) Going to try it, thanks! |
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| 20:44.48 | Mikaze | beautifulsnow: Don't blame me for the last one. I'ts a Windows idea. |
| 20:45.39 | beautifulsnow | Mikaze, it's a better idea than I could come up with, so... : ) See you in a few centuries! This will surely take a while :P |
| 20:47.03 | Mikaze | Crap. Was gonna tell him about apt-get reinstall. |
| 20:47.26 | Mikaze | Oops. |
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| 20:48.35 | th0ger | Which (debian based) distro would you recommend for a 250MB usbstick. To be used mainly as a rescue stick. No gui. OR should I install plain deb on it? |
| 20:48.43 | simonrvn | s,apt-get,aptitude, ; for apt-get it'd be --reinstall install, unless they changed it |
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| 20:49.06 | Mikaze | shrugs and just hopes he hasn't run an 'apt-get clean'. |
| 20:49.30 | maligor | th0ger, why would we recommend anything but debian? |
| 20:49.39 | th0ger | maligor: :-) |
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| 20:50.15 | th0ger | because debian is maybe not optimal for a small flash drive? |
| 20:50.25 | maligor | I doubt any debian based is |
| 20:50.40 | th0ger | ...therefore |
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| 20:51.07 | Mikaze | maligor: Try LFS. |
| 20:51.11 | jelly-home | th0ger: I like grml. |
| 20:51.14 | maligor | LFS... jeez |
| 20:51.22 | maligor | Mikaze, but I wasn't the one asking |
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| 20:51.24 | Mikaze | snickers. |
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| 20:52.46 | maligor | I imagine you could fit a plain debian on a 250mb stick tho |
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| 20:53.00 | th0ger | lfs... I dont want to put that much effort in it. Should be easy to install |
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| 20:54.01 | leptosom | th0ger: damn small linux? |
| 20:54.17 | Mikaze | B Double-E Double-R U N, Beer Run! |
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| 20:55.21 | th0ger | leptosom: dsl barks about all the gui applications they have squashed into the stick. Not exectly what i want. |
| 20:56.19 | pobega | hm. I just typed 'reboot' on the command line, and apparently I can reboot without my computer powering off; when did this happen? |
| 20:56.25 | bolt | I have a file with norwegian characters in them. If I edit the file with vim, I see them perfectly. If I run cat on the file, they appear as squares. My locale is en_US.UTF-8. Any ideas? |
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| 20:56.59 | nick4 | rosalindaa_ is a spammer |
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| 20:57.43 | leptosom | th0ger: maybe "finnix" is soemthing for u |
| 20:57.50 | zinx | bolt: $LANG and $LC_CTYPE ? |
| 20:58.23 | simonrvn | !ops rosalindaa_ onjoin spam |
| 20:58.23 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: simonrvn complains about: rosalindaa_ onjoin spam |
| 20:58.25 | zinx | bolt: and/or LC_ALL |
| 20:58.30 | th0ger | jelly-home: grml seems to be what i'm looking for. Or rather grml-small it seems? |
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| 20:59.24 | stew | simonrvn: thanks |
| 20:59.37 | OpenTokix | mmm 181 new packages.... |
| 20:59.39 | OpenTokix | sweet! |
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| 20:59.50 | FreakGuard | dnsmasq: failed to create listening socket: Address already in use |
| 20:59.52 | bolt | zinx: LANG is en_US.UTF-8, so is LC_ALL. LC_CTYPE is unset |
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| 20:59.58 | simonrvn | np. thanks for the k-line, whomever :) |
| 20:59.59 | FreakGuard | there's not really much running on these ports here |
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| 21:00.13 | sitwon | How do I tell 64-bit Debian to install a 32-bit library? |
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| 21:00.30 | FreakGuard | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/105249/ |
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| 21:00.38 | th0ger | leptosom: finnix sounds cool too. Ill try it. |
| 21:00.46 | simonrvn | by setting up a 32b chroot and installing it there |
| 21:00.57 | zinx | bolt: odd, then |
| 21:01.20 | OpenTokix | sitwon: some apps have .386 addition |
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| 21:01.39 | sitwon | simonrvn: this server has /lib64 and /lib32 (/lib is a symlink to /lib64) I want to know how to get apt to intall more 32-bit libraries... |
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| 21:02.03 | bolt | zinx: yes, very |
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| 21:03.00 | Hatter | after an unattended ext3f fsck on reboot, does the pc reboot automatically ? or turn off ? |
| 21:03.07 | OpenTokix | sitwon: what libs exactly do you need? |
| 21:03.34 | sitwon | OpenTokix: I need libstdc++.so.5 and libuuid.so.1 |
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| 21:03.49 | utabak | good evening all, I have installed Lenny two days ago, and I have realized that I need to install opensuse for a commercial academic program, is there any direct pointer you can give for an example install of Debian aside with Suse, I have tried a google search and still continuing in the mean time turned here ;) |
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| 21:05.43 | simonrvn | utabak: there's an article somewhere about doing something like that to fake out an app making it think it's running on an ubuntu host, using process groups and bind mounts. |
| 21:06.30 | dondelelcaro | utabak: for the most part, you shouldn't actually need suse |
| 21:06.54 | utabak | simonrvn: thx rather than faking keeping an installation is better for the program that I would like to use |
| 21:07.03 | sitwon | .386 didn't seem to work |
| 21:07.19 | utabak | dondelelcaro: yes sure, I have to this stupid program runs on fedoras and suses :( |
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| 21:07.55 | dondelelcaro | utabak: yeah, it'll probably run just fine on Debian too, but if necessary, you can always install suse into a chroot for it |
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| 21:08.26 | simonrvn | utabak: this (actually suite of them) app only required /etc/issue to say ubuntu in it. |
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| 21:08.47 | _Marko | Hi |
| 21:08.53 | _Marko | I never used debian |
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| 21:09.09 | th0ger | _Marko: better start now :) |
| 21:09.14 | _Marko | I used ubuntu |
| 21:09.24 | utabak | dondelelcaro: oops, that is the problem I could not install it, I was also thinking the same but it is not installing in any case, I tried on suse today and installer works ok, I did not get why it does not get installed on a debian or ubuntu machine, any ideas |
| 21:09.29 | _Marko | I was told it's his son :D |
| 21:09.36 | _Marko | so my question is: |
| 21:09.37 | tech13 | is there an easy way to an ISO with apt/source without actually burning a DVD? |
| 21:09.43 | _Marko | why should I use debian ? |
| 21:09.48 | _Marko | what's special in there ? |
| 21:09.57 | dondelelcaro | !tell _Marko -about why debian |
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| 21:10.37 | dondelelcaro | utabak: depends on what exactly the installer is; if you're lucky, it's just a shell script that untars things. If you're not, it does something more complicated |
| 21:11.06 | utabak | dondelelcaro: it is indeed a shell script(csh though) |
| 21:11.34 | nan8 | utabak: i just installed a opensuse in parallel to my debian lenny (out of curiousity) - didn't have any problems |
| 21:11.46 | nan8 | utabak: just don't let it touch your bootloader |
| 21:11.49 | dondelelcaro | utabak: yeah, that's fine. You can use that to install it. You'll probably just have to install csh if you don't already have it |
| 21:11.51 | utabak | dondelelcaro: and it untars and copied files that is all, and that is the reason why I can not understand why it does not get installed |
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| 21:12.13 | dondelelcaro | utabak: oh, so if it untars everything, it should be good. What's the error that it's giving you? |
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| 21:12.59 | bolt | I have a file with norwegian characters in them. If I edit the file with vim, I see them perfectly. If I run cat on the file, they appear as squares. My locale is en_US.UTF-8. Any ideas? |
| 21:13.08 | utabak | dondelelcaro: I am trying with "tcsh ./InstallScript" on the bash is there sth wrong, it gives an error related to csh somewhere on one of the extracted config files |
| 21:14.11 | utabak | dondelelcaro: this I am not sure though because this file is not listed in the install dvd that is why I am assuming it is coming out the extraction from the files in the dvd |
| 21:14.15 | th0ger | bolt: try first 'file foo' to see if its utf8 or iso-whatever. That may help. |
| 21:14.37 | dondelelcaro | utabak: what's the error? |
| 21:15.09 | utabak | dondelelcaro: I can not remember but wait I will reproduce that for you if you are around |
| 21:15.31 | bolt | th0ger: XML document text |
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| 21:16.41 | Mikaze-AFK | bolt: 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' and select iso-8859 and utf-8. |
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| 21:17.25 | th0ger | bolt: sure. Use a test document with just a few norwegian letters instead. |
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| 21:18.28 | th0ger | bolt: must go |
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| 21:19.08 | bolt | installed ISO-8859-1 and ISO-8859-15 as well, no effect |
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| 21:21.29 | beautifulsnow | Mikaze, well, reinstalling the desktop was a decent idea. (regarding broken mouse) Oh well:P Didn't work. I'm doomed ^^ |
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| 21:23.37 | nsadmin | beautifulsnow: could you expand on "didn't work"? |
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| 21:24.08 | beautifulsnow | He knows what Im talking about ^^ |
| 21:24.52 | beautifulsnow | My mouse wouldnt work (its my fault, I tried compiling a mouse driver, and broke the working mouse driver), so he gave the idea that reinstalling the desktop (gnome, X) would work. |
| 21:25.03 | beautifulsnow | It was a good idea, but it didn't make the mouse work ^^ |
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| 21:25.44 | utabak | y |
| 21:25.53 | guysoft42 | hey all, in continuation from yesterday - i have a unbootable debian system, i want to know what apt packages are installed on it, is there a way to check this out from the filesystem? |
| 21:25.54 | Mikaze | beautifulsnow! Ya ran out before I could tell you about apt-get reinstall. You may need to reinstall either the mouse module, or do a kernel reinstall then. |
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| 21:26.08 | utabak | dondelelcaro: are you around still |
| 21:26.09 | arezey | mikaze, they're back |
| 21:26.57 | beautifulsnow | sorry nsadmin I got disconneccted. I was saying: he had the idea that reinstalling the desktop (x, gnome, etc) would fix my mouse, I thoguht it was a good idea, but it did not fix my mouse ^^ |
| 21:27.20 | dondelelcaro | utabak: sort of |
| 21:27.28 | utabak | dondelelcaro: :) |
| 21:27.34 | nsadmin | oh, ok... does the same mouse on the same machine work in any other context? |
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| 21:27.58 | dondelelcaro | utabak: BTW, what does this program do? |
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| 21:28.07 | Mikaze | If you overwrote the mouse driver, and it no longer works, then it's a kernel and/or mouse module problem. |
| 21:28.54 | beautifulsnow | Mikaze, thats what i was saying earlier ^^ I was trying to install the lmcpm_usb driver. its made specially for logitech. but while I was doing that, somehow i broke the other (working) driver ^^ |
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| 21:29.17 | Maulkin | hrm. |
| 21:29.18 | utabak | dondelelcaro: multiphysics analysis and solver mostly fem and bem I guess, the 1st and foremost, on fedora and suse it can identify my system as x86_64 but this one on debian just gives ' System identification: unknown Linux Release 2 6' |
| 21:29.30 | Maulkin | considers a onjoin spam catcher bot. |
| 21:29.37 | stew | Maulkin: we have one, a2 |
| 21:30.02 | arezey | stew, oh? when did that come? |
| 21:30.05 | Maulkin | Bah, fine then! :) |
| 21:30.11 | stew | Maulkin: he cycles every 15 minutes or at staff request. when simon mentioned it, I cycled it and it klined the spammer |
| 21:30.19 | stew | arezey: a few months ago |
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| 21:30.30 | arezey | oh |
| 21:30.32 | stew | like that! |
| 21:30.41 | arezey | great |
| 21:30.48 | utabak | dondelelcaro: could you point me to somewhere to use as the pastebin |
| 21:30.56 | nsadmin | now that's new.... a bot that klines |
| 21:30.56 | dondelelcaro | utabak: paste.debian.net |
| 21:31.12 | dondelelcaro | utabak: if you shove in the csh script, you can probably edit it to fix what it's doing stupidly |
| 21:31.12 | Mikaze | beautifulsnow: Dunno if that driver is a default or an extra module. If it's an extra module, you can just reinstall the module package. Otherwise you need to reinstall the kernel. |
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| 21:31.28 | patrikf | "/notice a2 hello", anyone? ;-) |
| 21:31.38 | arezey | heh |
| 21:31.39 | utabak | dondelelcaro: that is an idea, honestly I did not try though |
| 21:31.59 | nsadmin | !anyone |
| 21:31.59 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls>, or <search> |
| 21:32.07 | arezey | heh |
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| 21:32.30 | nsadmin | :P |
| 21:33.14 | beautifulsnow | Mikaze, the driver i was trying to install was an extra module, yeah. I was afraid I would have to reinstall a kernel xD mijght as well reinstall debian. Oh well :) TY |
| 21:33.31 | utabak | dondelelcaro: I will keep the advice and in the mean time here comes the log : http://paste.debian.net/29138/ |
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| 21:33.40 | nan8 | guysoft42: if the system is only unbootable - the easiest way probably is to boot another (rescue) system and to chroot into the debian system (and you mean deb packages) |
| 21:33.40 | nsadmin | beautifulsnow: actually reinstalling kernels is easy |
| 21:33.47 | Mikaze | beautifulsnow: Maybe 'apt-get reinstall <your kernel image>' and see if that cures it. If not, then you're gonna have to find which package contains your mouse module. |
| 21:34.02 | FreakGuard | looks like inetd and dnsmasq block eachother by binding to addresses... how to fix that? |
| 21:34.15 | beautifulsnow | nsadmin, I've compiled from scratch a few years ago, its not too bad, just time consuming. |
| 21:34.42 | nsadmin | did you compile from scratch this time? |
| 21:34.46 | beautifulsnow | Didnt |
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| 21:35.10 | nsadmin | guessing here, you probably don't have to either |
| 21:35.11 | dondelelcaro | utabak: ok, so most of your issues stem from the fact that you've probably got /media/cdrom0 mounted noexec |
| 21:35.13 | beautifulsnow | But I think I have to, to install this module :P |
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| 21:35.57 | utabak | dondelelcaro: :S so fix |
| 21:36.03 | bolt | okay, so I've narrowed my problem down to wget and the specific webserver I'm trying to fetch documents from. When I fetch http://feeds2.feedburner.com/hardwareno with wget, it ends up in a weird format in which the norwegian characters are not displayed properly when running cat on the resulting file. if I run vim on it, the bottom of the screen says [converted][dos] and the characters are displayed correctly. I can't change the webserver. Can I g |
| 21:36.03 | bolt | et wget to save in another format, or perhaps pipe the output through something to convert it? |
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| 21:36.04 | dondelelcaro | utabak: that said, it's pretty stupid for them to use the gzip, tar, and other commands that they've got on the cdrom |
| 21:36.20 | utabak | dondelelcaro: I can imagine |
| 21:36.33 | themill | bolt: perhaps run it through iconv or recode or similar. |
| 21:36.43 | dondelelcaro | utabak: anyway, if you mount the cdrom as root, using mount /dev/cdrom /cdrom; or similar, you can mount it without noexec, and things should start working |
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| 21:36.54 | utabak | dondelelcaro: copying the files on the local drive and tryin is another option as well |
| 21:37.01 | dondelelcaro | utabak: right, you can do that too |
| 21:37.16 | nsadmin | beautifulsnow but wait, you had the mouse working before? |
| 21:37.28 | utabak | dondelelcaro: the second will be a faster one I guess |
| 21:38.22 | beautifulsnow | nsadmin, Oh, yes, it was working fine. (minus the media buttons, so I went and tried to install the driver that -- i think -- will make the extra buttons work) |
| 21:38.23 | dondelelcaro | utabak: it looks like the only real command that it does is mkdir /home/utabak/Samcef/V6.3; for a in /media/cdrom0/*.tar.gz; do tar -C /home/utabak/Samcef/V6.3 -zxvcf $a; done; |
| 21:38.29 | guysoft42 | nan, after i chroot, how can i see all the listed packges? |
| 21:38.31 | timahvo1_ | anyone know how to enable spell checking in centerim ? |
| 21:38.36 | guysoft42 | nan8, * |
| 21:38.47 | nsadmin | ohh, that was going to be my next question |
| 21:38.52 | dondelelcaro | utabak: and then you can run the SamcefFieldConfig.sh and the InstallLicense; command |
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| 21:39.14 | dondelelcaro | utabak: and then you probably should file a support request asking them to not use the tar, gzip, and other binaries on the cdrom. |
| 21:39.19 | nsadmin | one thing I'm wondering is, did the driver fail because there were two drivers actually inserted at the same time |
| 21:39.21 | dondelelcaro | (or provide an option to avoid using them) |
| 21:39.23 | utabak | dondelelcaro: yes I am also trying to follow the script now, u r right |
| 21:39.35 | beautifulsnow | nsadmin, I can find out in a sec :) |
| 21:39.38 | Mikaze | Anyone remember what the UNIX pre-GUI method for printing addresses on envelopes was? |
| 21:39.49 | dondelelcaro | Mikaze: I personally use LaTeX. |
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| 21:40.13 | utabak | dondelelcaro: let me ask a quicky, what do you mean by to not use the tar, gzip, and other binaries on the cdrom. |
| 21:40.14 | Mikaze | Is latex scriptable? |
| 21:40.24 | dondelelcaro | Mikaze: yes |
| 21:40.30 | utabak | dondelelcaro: can you reprase that, thx |
| 21:40.34 | bolt | themill: anything which can be used in a pipe? i'm fetching the rss as part of an rss reader script for conky. i'd rather not save the file if possible. |
| 21:40.39 | utabak | dondelelcaro: rephrase |
| 21:40.42 | nan8 | guysoft42: dpkg -l |
| 21:40.45 | Mikaze | Thank you. Will check it out. |
| 21:40.58 | dondelelcaro | utabak: I mean that instead of running /media/cdrom0/installdir/lin/bin/gzip, it should just run gzip |
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| 21:41.29 | utabak | dondelelcaro: ok , I see now, that is also not reasonable to me now, thx |
| 21:41.39 | nsadmin | why? |
| 21:41.40 | themill | bolt: you can certainly use iconv in a pipe (just don't specify a file name) and you can use wget with "-O -" to get it to write to stdout |
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| 21:41.44 | beautifulsnow | nsadmin, everything listed when you run 'lsmod' are modules that are in *use* , right? |
| 21:41.54 | nsadmin | and inserted, yes |
| 21:42.07 | nsadmin | modules not listed are not inserted |
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| 21:42.49 | beautifulsnow | nsadmin, really? Because if that's the case, I've got 3 mouse drivers running right now : usbmouse, psmouse and lmcpm_usb :P |
| 21:42.58 | Mikaze | apt-get install filters ; cat <file> | fudd |
| 21:43.11 | beautifulsnow | nsadmin, oh and evdev ^^ |
| 21:43.14 | \amethyst | beautifulsnow: the Used column says whether it's actually being used |
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| 21:43.39 | nsadmin | or more correctly depended upon by another module |
| 21:43.40 | ^MadDog^ | whois dpkg |
| 21:43.42 | beautifulsnow | \amethyst, Oh, "Used by". Thanks |
| 21:43.53 | \amethyst | beautifulsnow: actually, maybe not... since it doesn't seem to take userspace users into account |
| 21:44.17 | beautifulsnow | userspace? |
| 21:44.35 | bolt | themill: woo! it works! |
| 21:44.36 | bolt | themill++ |
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| 21:44.37 | bolt | :D |
| 21:44.40 | \amethyst | beautifulsnow: oh, or maybe it does... I was confused because my 'psmouse' showed 0 there, but I just unloaded the module and nothing broke |
| 21:44.49 | \amethyst | beautifulsnow: userspace = anything that isn't a kernel module |
| 21:44.55 | beautifulsnow | Oh I see :D |
| 21:45.06 | nsadmin | and isn't a kerkel too |
| 21:45.17 | themill | bolt: :) |
| 21:46.08 | nsadmin | beautifulsnow, try rmmod lmcpm_usb |
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| 21:46.25 | beautifulsnow | I was doing lsmod -r lmcpm_usb xD |
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| 21:49.10 | gewt | ON TO TEH USERLAND! |
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| 21:49.19 | Geek`N`Proud | Ring 3 == Userland (usually) |
| 21:49.25 | chelz | just making sure, i can install from a debian-stable dvd then install packages from the testing repos right? |
| 21:49.27 | FreakGuard | hm... dnsmasq doesn't answer dhcp queries. any ideas? |
| 21:49.35 | beautifulsnow | nsadmin, http://paste.debian.net/29142/plain/29142 :P |
| 21:49.40 | FreakGuard | they exist according to tcpdump |
| 21:49.45 | Geek`N`Proud | chelz, yes and you can use stable to fully upgrade to testing too =] |
| 21:49.50 | beautifulsnow | chelz, yes |
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| 21:50.03 | chelz | nice. ty all. :) |
| 21:50.19 | chelz | i want to keep updated with some things, but definitely only some. i love stable. |
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| 21:50.44 | nsadmin | beautifulsnow: try insmod usbmouse, and does this restore your mouse (without the media btns)? |
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| 21:51.23 | beautifulsnow | nsadmin, insmod: can't read 'usbmouse': No such file or directory (yes I used sudo ) Yikes |
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| 21:51.39 | nsadmin | oh, sorry... modprobe usbmouse |
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| 21:52.37 | beautifulsnow | It does not :( damn, you people are patient ^_^;;;; |
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| 21:53.24 | mortum | hello |
| 21:53.45 | nsadmin | beautifulsnow: hmm... so I'm trying to restore the condition before you built that logi driver |
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| 21:54.09 | utabak | dondelelcaro: thx for the pointers and help and I will report this problem to them as well, thx again for the time |
| 21:54.16 | nsadmin | not really knowing what that condition was exactly is a problem :) |
| 21:54.32 | beautifulsnow | nsadmin, ................................. |
| 21:54.44 | beautifulsnow | nsadmin, I just did : more /etc/modules |
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| 21:55.03 | nsadmin | but I figured removing the module you built would have done it |
| 21:55.06 | beautifulsnow | >_< nevermind. I was going to say something that was pointless :P |
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| 21:55.32 | nsadmin | pointless things aren't always bad to say./.. |
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| 21:55.44 | beautifulsnow | Well it was pointless AND wrong :P |
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| 21:56.24 | blade_ | hi all |
| 21:56.34 | nsadmin | oh, did /etc/modules list the new module? |
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| 21:57.23 | blade_ | someone can help me pls, i try to update me debian 4.0 etch to 5.0 lenny (W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs: |
| 21:57.26 | blade_ | 4D270D06F42584E6 |
| 21:57.59 | Mikaze | blade_: apt-get install debian-keyring? |
| 21:58.28 | nsadmin | it's just a warning, you can still install, you can also get the key |
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| 21:58.28 | dondelelcaro | utabak: np; good luck with that |
| 21:58.42 | axolx | hey guys -- when i open aptitude it already show a list of packaged ready to install. how can i clear that list? |
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| 21:59.13 | blade_ | how i can get te key ? |
| 21:59.32 | nsadmin | !key |
| 21:59.32 | dpkg | well, key is Install the latest debian-archive-keyring package to get the latest gpg key used to sign the Debian archive |
| 21:59.37 | utabak | dondelelcaro: I can not imagine how it will work, because they could not find a way to solve this and proposed me to install opensuse, I dont know if I can trust this software ;)) |
| 21:59.42 | Mikaze | axolx: Change the sort "order" of the display. |
| 21:59.43 | beautifulsnow | anyone know what is regex operator OR ? (to use with grep) |
| 21:59.58 | utabak | dondelelcaro: anyway, thx for the help |
| 21:59.59 | nsadmin | !factinfo key |
| 21:59.59 | dpkg | key -- last modified at Sun Mar 4 11:00:45 2007 by jvw!jeroen@220pc220.sshunet.nl; it has been requested 183 times, last by nsadmin, 27s ago. |
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| 22:00.05 | axolx | Mikaze: the list title is "Packages being automatically installed to satisfy dependencies" |
| 22:00.10 | dondelelcaro | axolx: aptitdue keep-all; will do it |
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| 22:00.23 | dondelelcaro | axolx: I don't remember what the key is to do that |
| 22:00.30 | \amethyst | axolx: F10 -> Actions -> Cancel pending actions |
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| 22:00.46 | beautifulsnow | nsadmin, check this out: http://paste.debian.net/29144/plain/29144 shows the driver is working, right? O_o |
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| 22:01.00 | axolx | \amethyst: F keys not working due to my terminal setup. any other way to achieve the same? |
| 22:01.01 | zmotok | hello guys, any idea on why i can't run 32bit programs on amd64 debian? (ia32-libs, libc6 and libc6-i686 are installed), i get the "cannot execute binary file" error |
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| 22:01.18 | ma3x | can you somehow make a cron job to download/install security updates every night? |
| 22:01.25 | \amethyst | axolx: ctrl-t |
| 22:01.28 | Mikaze | beautifulsnow: man 7 regex |
| 22:01.42 | axolx | \amethyst: thanks and sorry, just saw it was right there :) |
| 22:01.47 | beautifulsnow | oh didnt know regex was a program :P |
| 22:02.03 | \amethyst | beautifulsnow: it's not; not all manpages are for programs |
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| 22:02.18 | beautifulsnow | hm |
| 22:02.20 | Mikaze | It's not, beautifulsnow. |
| 22:02.22 | beautifulsnow | Ill remember that :) |
| 22:02.27 | dondelelcaro | ma3x: yes, but I strongly recommend that you have the cron job download them and just mail you |
| 22:02.31 | nsadmin | and evidently not all programs are for manpages... |
| 22:02.31 | \amethyst | beautifulsnow: section 7 is for file formats and standards |
| 22:02.41 | dondelelcaro | ma3x: cron-apt is what you're looking for |
| 22:02.55 | Mikaze | man grep is also helpful for regular expressions. |
| 22:02.55 | dondelelcaro | section 5, you mean |
| 22:03.03 | \amethyst | beautifulsnow: the short is: you can use egrep 'lmpcm|mouse' or grep -e lmpcm -e mouse |
| 22:03.08 | dondelelcaro | (7 is for misc) |
| 22:03.11 | nsadmin | so sections 5 and 7 are for firle formats, file formats and standards? |
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| 22:03.26 | \amethyst | oh, that's right |
| 22:03.28 | dondelelcaro | nsadmin: 5 is for file formats and conventions; 7 is for everything else |
| 22:03.34 | DustyDingo | ma3x: if you do full updates, remeber that this sometimes need interaction, when it comes to config files |
| 22:03.35 | beautifulsnow | \amethyst, I thought I coudnt use | because I thought bash would think I meant it as a pipe (as in, "execute another command after the pipe). |
| 22:03.40 | nan8 | beautifulsnow: man man |
| 22:03.41 | beautifulsnow | Should have just tried it x) |
| 22:03.47 | beautifulsnow | nan8, ^^ :) |
| 22:03.51 | dondelelcaro | nsadmin: so sometimes you might see them in 7, but they generally shouldn't be there |
| 22:03.59 | blade_ | is this repository right for swizerland ? deb http://mirror.switch.ch/ftp/mirror/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free |
| 22:04.02 | blade_ | deb-src http://mirror.switch.ch/ftp/mirror/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free |
| 22:04.06 | nan8 | beautifulsnow: ;-) |
| 22:04.10 | \amethyst | beautifulsnow: that's why I put it in quotes |
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| 22:04.32 | \amethyst | beautifulsnow: however you need to use egrep for | to be meaningful |
| 22:04.53 | nsadmin | or grep -e |
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| 22:04.56 | \amethyst | beautifulsnow: (or, grep 'foo\|bar' but that only works on GNU systems) |
| 22:05.01 | beautifulsnow | >_< I should buy a notebook just to take notes about stuff I read on this channel :P |
| 22:05.07 | \amethyst | nsadmin: -E you mean ? |
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| 22:05.36 | nsadmin | oh, yeah I think :) |
| 22:05.44 | Mikaze | Try the #bash channel if you really wanna freak. |
| 22:06.30 | ma3x | dondelelcaro: is it risky if you have it updated? |
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| 22:07.25 | nsadmin | beautifulsnow: a random one: there are tricks dpkg can do... apt-get also, try apt-get moo |
| 22:08.42 | dondelelcaro | ma3x: potentially, yes |
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| 22:09.14 | dondelelcaro | ma3x: esp. since it would mean that the machine would fail in the middle of the night when no one was looking at it |
| 22:10.27 | ma3x | dondelelcaro: but does apt-cron mail you only when there are new updates? |
| 22:11.26 | dondelelcaro | ma3x: right |
| 22:11.30 | dondelelcaro | ma3x: but it's configurable |
| 22:12.10 | ma3x | dondelelcaro: you mean it will fail/issue warnings? or it can even interrupt/shutdown debian? |
| 22:12.56 | dondelelcaro | ma3x: a security update could potentially do anything |
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| 22:13.18 | dondelelcaro | ma3x: they *shouldn't*, but if you're automatically installing them, you'll be one of the first to find out if there's a bug |
| 22:13.49 | ma3x | dondelelcaro: and how often are security updates released? (approx, days, weeks...) ? |
| 22:13.56 | jonaskoelker | Hi all. I've noted that treecc is no longer maintained. I'd like to maintain it. Where's the documentation for how I become a maintainer? Where should I go ask for help in the #debian-* channels? |
| 22:14.12 | dondelelcaro | ma3x: whenever there's an update ready, basically. There's no schedule |
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| 22:14.52 | ma3x | dondelelcaro: but from experience, what's the average timeframe, so that i can imagine how often will i get emails |
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| 22:15.42 | dondelelcaro | ma3x: probably on the order of once every 10 days or so; it really depends on what you've got installed, though |
| 22:16.36 | dondelelcaro | ma3x: http://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/2009/threads.html for example are the security fixes for 2009 |
| 22:17.46 | Mikaze | apt-get install maint-guide |
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| 22:21.05 | Mikaze | waves... |
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| 22:21.28 | ersi | jonaskoelker: It's on http://www.debian.org/devel/ read up. read social contract + the rest |
| 22:22.59 | jonaskoelker | quite a lot I see... |
| 22:23.09 | el_alexluna | how can i know how a debian package was compiled? |
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| 22:24.51 | jonaskoelker | el_alexluna: what I'd do is apt-get source $PKG, then grope around looking for clues |
| 22:25.15 | el_alexluna | jonaskoelker, thanks |
| 22:25.16 | jonaskoelker | el_alexluna: depending on what you mean by "how ... was compiled" |
| 22:25.25 | jonaskoelker | yw :) |
| 22:25.33 | at0m|werk | configure options? |
| 22:25.48 | ersi | jonaskoelker: yeah, it's a lot. But then again.. rather that then none :) |
| 22:26.01 | jonaskoelker | ersi: that much is true :) |
| 22:26.02 | ersi | I guess you could check out the debian mentor project thingie aswell |
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| 22:26.44 | el_alexluna | jonaskoelker, i mean ./configure --prefix= etc etc |
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| 22:26.58 | el_alexluna | how can i add some feature |
| 22:27.02 | jonaskoelker | el_alexluna: oh... grope around looking for clues *really hard* ;-) |
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| 22:27.57 | DeSian | is lenny backports available? |
| 22:28.21 | stew | DeSian: yes, see backports.org |
| 22:28.21 | kelt | hi, I'm trying to use compiz on debian etch... but there doesn't seem to be a ccsm available for etch |
| 22:28.25 | DeSian | because backports.org display just Etch package |
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| 22:28.53 | jonaskoelker | kelt: and the other ccsm's are incompatible? |
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| 22:29.07 | kelt | jonaskoelker: what do you mean? |
| 22:29.08 | stew | DeSian: the top news item on http://backports.org is that lenny-backports is available |
| 22:29.25 | jonaskoelker | kelt: the ones from later releases |
| 22:29.34 | stew | kelt: if you are wanting to use something like compiz, you should probably not be running 'oldstable' but should consider upgrading at lesat to the current debian release |
| 22:29.36 | DeSian | stew: i know, but search in package from Lenny! |
| 22:30.01 | kelt | jonaskoelker: I tried one from lenny and it says it needs python-support version 2 or something |
| 22:30.06 | stew | DeSian: http://backports.org/debian/dists/lenny-backports/main/binary-i386/Packages |
| 22:30.12 | kelt | stew: what version should I use then? |
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| 22:30.38 | stew | kelt: stable aka lenny aka 5.0.0 : /msg dpkg etch->lenny |
| 22:30.44 | DeSian | stew: http://www.backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=packages |
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| 22:31.04 | stew | DeSian: ok |
| 22:31.38 | stew | DeSian: http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=apt-dater&searchon=names§ion=all&suite=lenny-backports |
| 22:31.50 | stew | DeSian: you might want to write the mailing list and let them know to update their search page |
| 22:32.14 | DeSian | stew: ok i do it, thnx |
| 22:32.50 | stew | DeSian: the previous url i gave you is a list of every package. also note that http://packages.debian.org/ also search lenny-backports |
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| 22:33.07 | jonaskoelker | zomfg(bbq) -- it takes three years to become a new maintainer? |
| 22:33.15 | beautifulsnow | hey guys, It's me, with the mouse, again. I'm following this guide: http://daemon.prozone.org/~david/projects/lmpcm_usb/ and got everything until it says the hexdump thing. (halfway down the page). Nothing happens when I push the buttons. :/ But if I unplug then plug in my mouse, dmeg says the driver recognized the mouse. :/ Why isn't the mouse workiiiinggg ! :P |
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| 22:34.19 | DeSian | stew: tht debian wiki said: flashplugin-nonfree is available in Lenny backports, also check the package for flashplugin-nonfree |
| 22:34.32 | DeSian | http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=flashplugin&searchon=names&suite=stable§ion=all |
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| 22:35.32 | stew | DeSian: yes, flashplugin-nonfree is available in lenny-backports in the contrib section, sorry the url i said was a "list of every package" was only main, not contrib or non-free |
| 22:35.41 | stew | DeSian: http://packages.debian.org/flashplugin-nonfree |
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| 22:36.15 | DeSian | stew: ok, thanx again. |
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| 22:39.28 | DeSian | i try to install flashplugin from backports, "md5sum rejected install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz" |
| 22:39.46 | DeSian | and iceweasel said: flashplugin isn't installed1 |
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| 22:42.31 | cirzgamanti` | i'm looking for a system that databases all files on several external disks and lots of cd-roms. any suggestions? ideally it would ID a file independently from its location. |
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| 22:43.24 | VieQ | hello all |
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| 22:44.07 | VieQ | guys chooseing a mirror during setup, what is my appropriate root directory to give it to the setup |
| 22:44.57 | VieQ | I am currently here (ftp://ftp.proxad.net/mirrors/ftp.debian.org/dists/Debian5.0/) |
| 22:45.26 | nsadmin | beautifulsnow: what port is the X server configured to listen to? |
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| 22:45.46 | beautifulsnow | nsadmin, I'm not sure how to check that. (Or why you ask ^_^ ) |
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| 22:46.19 | VieQ | never mind solved by chooseing http servers |
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| 22:47.22 | nsadmin | reason I ask, is... since the driver claims it sees the mouse when you plug it in, the problem is either before that (hardware problem in the mouse itself) or after (say, in the x server) |
| 22:48.16 | nsadmin | and with xorg and its automatic configuration, I'm not sure how to check either |
| 22:48.42 | beautifulsnow | Hmm I see |
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| 22:49.01 | nsadmin | but looking at the config file (should be in /etc/X11) is worth a shot |
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| 22:51.25 | nsadmin | beautifulsnow could you pastebin your dmesg output |
| 22:51.57 | nsadmin | and hold that thought: I'll be back in a few mins |
| 22:52.09 | beautifulsnow | Sure :) |
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| 22:55.00 | beautifulsnow | nsadmin, http://paste.debian.net/29149/ there you go, when you come back. (it was very long so i trimmed it) |
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| 22:57.38 | MmikeRMRM | Need help on how to begin dealing with issue: I have sata HDD connected to sata controler on motherboard. I boot debian (5.0), installed on /dev/hda1. I have /dev/sda, i run cfdisk /dev/sda, create partition, type linux, mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda1, mount that filesystem, everything is ok... I reboot, try to mount /dev/sda1, mount complains that 'special device /dev/sda1' does not exists. ls -al /dev/sda1 yields 'No such file or directory'. |
| 22:57.38 | MmikeRMRM | fdisk -l shows /dev/sda with one partition, /dev/sda1. Why does /dev/sda1 disappears after reboot? |
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| 23:01.24 | edju | Is it possible to change a username? If so, how? |
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| 23:01.41 | nsadmin | beautifulsnow, ok, what;s the url of the paste? |
| 23:01.50 | nsadmin | edju: using usermod |
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| 23:02.28 | jelly-home | MmikeRMRM: 's any other sd* exist? |
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| 23:02.44 | themill | edju: it's trivial to change username, it's much harder to unbreak all the programs that remember your old username and old home directory. I've done it once, I wouldn't recommend doing it again. |
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| 23:02.48 | beautifulsnow | nsadmin, http://paste.debian.net/29149/ that one :) |
| 23:03.00 | abrotman | themill: unless it's a new user ... |
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| 23:03.34 | MmikeRMRM | jelly-home, yes, I have another SATA drive connected to motherboard, /dev/sdb, and i have /dev/sdb1 there, working fine... I have also /dev/hdb1, and /dev/sdc1 (that's IDE drive on PCI sata/ide controler) |
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| 23:04.21 | edju | themill, That's the problem I have now - I restored my old username home directory and now pieces of it remain. |
| 23:04.40 | jelly-home | MmikeRMRM: which kernel are you booting in etch, when sda isn't visible? |
| 23:05.09 | MmikeRMRM | 2.6.26-1-686 |
| 23:05.25 | MmikeRMRM | and i can see /dev/sda, i can even do dd_rescue /dev/sda /dev/null, and it's working fine |
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| 23:05.56 | jelly-home | MmikeRMRM: oh, so it's just the partition that is missing? |
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| 23:06.06 | MmikeRMRM | yes, not the whole drive. |
| 23:06.07 | nsadmin | wjat |
| 23:06.10 | nsadmin | err |
| 23:06.11 | jelly-home | MmikeRMRM: pastebin your dmesg or kern.log, when it's not there. |
| 23:06.19 | themill | edju: eww... You might like to do something like "grep -r $HOME oldusername" to find where it's found in config files. |
| 23:06.20 | nsadmin | what's dd_fescue? |
| 23:06.25 | nsadmin | err rescue |
| 23:06.32 | jelly-home | nsadmin: giyf |
| 23:06.49 | jelly-home | nsadmin: and /smg dpkg search, too |
| 23:06.59 | jelly-home | msg* |
| 23:07.12 | nsadmin | what's giyf? |
| 23:07.28 | jelly-home | !giyf |
| 23:07.28 | dpkg | i heard giyf is Google Is Your Friend, or http://google.com/linux. Gary Izzard, Yankee Farmer |
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| 23:08.32 | jelly-home | MmikeRMRM: also, dobra veÄer |
| 23:08.38 | MmikeRMRM | jelly-home, http://pastebin.ca/1346309 |
| 23:08.46 | nsadmin | beautifulsnow so your dmesg shows a "usb receiver" coming online |
| 23:08.58 | MmikeRMRM | 'brvecher! :) |
| 23:08.58 | n4mu | hello |
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| 23:09.19 | n4mu | i have this question and i can't quite formulate it properly |
| 23:09.48 | n4mu | i want to apt-get install mysql-server but i don't want apt to configure the password |
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| 23:10.26 | bolt | Is there a way to get wget or curl (or anything i can pipe their output through) to parse the various & and so on an replace them with the characters which would appear on a rendered webpage? |
| 23:10.27 | n4mu | i'd actually like to know if and how to control the apt configuration stuff (for scripting purposes) |
| 23:10.33 | beautifulsnow | nsadmin, pretty much. Everytime I plug it in, it says "Detected device". Funny eh? ^^ |
| 23:10.37 | jelly-home | MmikeRMRM: cat /proc/mdstat and blkid? |
| 23:11.17 | nsadmin | I'm not sure what it means by receiver... but it does say the port it assigned to it |
| 23:11.27 | jelly-home | MmikeRMRM: line 409 of http://pastebin.ca/1346309 is a bit weird, like there's md metadata on "sda" itself, and it gets bound by md to be autoconfigured |
| 23:11.43 | beautifulsnow | nsadmin, Receiver is the name linux gives to the mouse: "Logitech USB Receiver" |
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| 23:12.10 | MmikeRMRM | jelly-home, http://pastebin.ca/1346313, but md0 is degraded, just two devices, because i'm missing /dev/sda1 :) |
| 23:12.47 | MmikeRMRM | shall I dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda, reboot, and then cfdisk? |
| 23:12.51 | nsadmin | ohh, is this a wireless mouse? |
| 23:13.02 | jelly-home | MmikeRMRM: I guess "blockdev --rereadpt /dev/sda" might bring back the device this reboot |
| 23:13.11 | beautifulsnow | usb wifi mouse, yup |
| 23:13.42 | jelly-home | MmikeRMRM: I don't remember whether md metadata is at the beginning or at the end of the device |
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| 23:14.12 | jelly-home | MmikeRMRM: think it even depends on md version, and there're both options. |
| 23:14.29 | jelly-home | MmikeRMRM: wiping first and last 4MB of the device should be enough |
| 23:14.35 | nsadmin | so by "receiver" it means the radio that receives the mouse input; the mouse itself is a transmitter |
| 23:14.42 | beautifulsnow | Oh |
| 23:14.50 | MmikeRMRM | jelly-home, blockdev command gave me back /dev/sda1! :) |
| 23:14.55 | MmikeRMRM | Let me reboot |
| 23:14.59 | jelly-home | MmikeRMRM: don't |
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| 23:15.10 | nsadmin | beautifulsnow: batteries good in the mouse? |
| 23:15.13 | MmikeRMRM | ok, i won't |
| 23:15.22 | jelly-home | MmikeRMRM: same thing will happen again, likely |
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| 23:15.34 | beautifulsnow | nsadmin, 78% full |
| 23:15.41 | jelly-home | MmikeRMRM: is your mdadm.conf set up? |
| 23:15.47 | nsadmin | ok |
| 23:15.49 | MmikeRMRM | How did I end up with that? :) |
| 23:15.50 | beautifulsnow | nsadmin, 71% sorry :) |
| 23:16.23 | MmikeRMRM | jelly-home, yes, I guess, nothing fancy there, just the uuid of the md array |
| 23:16.30 | nsadmin | is there any other context under which this mouse with this machine works? like, do you have other OSes installed? |
| 23:16.38 | beautifulsnow | LiveCD |
| 23:16.41 | MmikeRMRM | but, I can't even get plain old Linux partition with ext3 to remain after reboot... |
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| 23:16.51 | nsadmin | and it does work when you fire that up? |
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| 23:16.59 | jelly-home | MmikeRMRM: my theory is like, you don't have a proper md config file, and autodetection first finds metadata at the end of "sda" instead of at the end of "sda1" for some reason |
| 23:17.11 | beautifulsnow | nsadmin, it does (also works on Windows 7 Install CD, but that's another story *GAG* ) |
| 23:17.24 | jelly-home | MmikeRMRM: I mean, is it correct? |
| 23:17.33 | nsadmin | ok, so that rules out hardware as a problem |
| 23:17.40 | MmikeRMRM | jelly-home, you're right! I did do mdadm /dev/md0 ---add /dev/sda |
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| 23:17.51 | jelly-home | !spank MmikeRMRM |
| 23:17.52 | dpkg | bends MmikeRMRM over her knee and delivers a mighty *THWACK* |
| 23:17.57 | honschu | Hi, I cannot close the device /dev/mapper/crypt3 because it says it's busy. But with lsof | grep crypt3 I cannot find a process using it. So what to do instead of rebooting??? |
| 23:18.00 | MmikeRMRM | stupid! :) |
| 23:18.19 | jelly-home | good thing we solved it in time for DS9. |
| 23:18.27 | MmikeRMRM | I did mdadm /dev/md0 --fail /dev/sda, removed /dev/sda, created /dev/sda1, added that to array, rebooted, no /dev/sda1 :) |
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| 23:18.42 | riot | why is it a pain in the ass to make exim4 use tls or ssl? |
| 23:18.47 | MmikeRMRM | jelly-home, yes, xawtw is running 'always on top' and 'on all workspaces' :) |
| 23:19.21 | MmikeRMRM | is there any other way of fixing it that dding /dev/sda ? |
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| 23:19.50 | jelly-home | MmikeRMRM: well, if you're careful enough to wipe only those bits that don't affect sda1... ;-) |
| 23:20.07 | riot | The docs say ".. oh, you just gotta define a macro MAIN_TLS_ENABLE." very lapidary. No mention WHAT exactly to define. Somewhere else you find trivialities like "MAIN_TLS_ENABLE = True" - which is quite too trivial for mail-configuration.. grrr. |
| 23:20.20 | MmikeRMRM | I don't care, that drive is empty, I'll recreate partition table after that... |
| 23:20.31 | riot | i know why i hate email. </rant> |
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| 23:21.12 | honschu | riot: Some people love postfix because of a more simple config... I used to battle with sendmail in openbsd - ... finnaly it worked ... |
| 23:21.14 | jelly-home | MmikeRMRM: if you have a backup, just remove both sda and sda1 from md, wipe say 4MB at the beginning and at the end, reread the partition table and reuse |
| 23:21.45 | riot | honschu: my experience with postfix was almost the same as it is with exim right now. I think its a very software-independent problem. Email just sucks. |
| 23:21.58 | honschu | hehe, ;-) |
| 23:22.06 | Geek`N`Proud | e-mail is too distributed |
| 23:22.09 | MmikeRMRM | I just googled that md superblock is at the end of partition... but wiping the begining also can't do any harm :) |
| 23:22.14 | Geek`N`Proud | same reason Jabber sucks |
| 23:22.44 | Geek`N`Proud | but just imagine if we didn't have e-mail.. everyone would have personal "postboxes" and static IPs to host them :P |
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| 23:23.05 | jelly-home | Geek`N`Proud: that'd be nice. |
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| 23:23.39 | nsadmin | Geek`N`Proud: or we'd still be doing uucp mail |
| 23:23.40 | jelly-home | Geek`N`Proud: the Internet Mail 2000 proposal looked not unlike that. |
| 23:23.54 | honschu | About Email, I think "they" didn't update email to a gnupg-mail because it's so easy to observate... |
| 23:24.20 | honschu | No normal person uses gpgp, pgp or something like that |
| 23:24.24 | honschu | "normal" ;) |
| 23:24.26 | riot | Geek`N`Proud: maybe jabber isn't tooo wonderful either, but as it is, jabber just sucks less (like mutt) |
| 23:25.03 | Geek`N`Proud | riot, only because "everyone" can run their own server for it |
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| 23:25.06 | riot | exim (per default) doesn't even encrypt. I mean. HELLO? |
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| 23:25.25 | nsadmin | hello! |
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| 23:25.33 | riot | Geek`N`Proud: nah, have you ever set up a jabber daemon? It's damn easy compared to email. |
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| 23:25.49 | honschu | or just scan for open 139 ... it's really worst! |
| 23:25.55 | riot | Geek`N`Proud: and it comes with lots of encryption (enabled!) by default. |
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| 23:27.11 | Geek`N`Proud | depends on the daemon |
| 23:27.29 | Geek`N`Proud | and yeah I agree.. I took a look at sendmail just for setting up for localhost |
| 23:27.41 | riot | its no wonder every antiterror-regime tries to sniff emails. Technology makes it easy for them. And that in a world where encryption is almost ubiquitous. |
| 23:28.04 | lobo99 | hello! I'm desperate... when I try to mount my raid i get this error: "Can't find ext3 filesystem on dev md0." any idea? |
| 23:28.05 | Geek`N`Proud | encryption above 128 bit is banned in a lot of countries |
| 23:28.22 | Geek`N`Proud | and in some countries it's banned entirely |
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| 23:28.40 | honschu | I love this sentence: sorry it's german: Auch wenn man nicht paranoid ist, heisst es nicht, dass sie nicht hinter einem her sind ;-) |
| 23:28.55 | jelly-home | you're a riot, riot |
| 23:28.58 | jelly-home | hides |
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| 23:29.14 | riot | translation: "Although you're not paranoid, doesn't mean they're not after you." |
| 23:29.20 | MmikeRMRM | I always wanted to do dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda or something :) |
| 23:29.23 | Geek`N`Proud | ahh right |
| 23:29.25 | honschu | thx |
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| 23:30.28 | riot | honschu: indeed, nice saying. I like the title of a nice lecture from a friend: "Hilfe! Verschwörungstheoretiker sind hinter mir her!" (en_EN: "Help! Conspiracy-theorists are after me!") |
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| 23:31.23 | honschu | lol, pretty nice |
| 23:31.36 | riot | jelly-home: stating the obvious in a nice manner. I think i hide, too. Back in my crazy but almost working mailsystem config. |
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| 23:33.19 | MmikeRMRM | When I do: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda, shouldn't ifstat show writebytes, not readbytes? |
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| 23:34.37 | nsadmin | beautifulsnow are you still here? (I'm trying to think here; evidently nothing is happening) |
| 23:35.02 | beautifulsnow | nsadmin, Im here, still googling and googling and googling :P |
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| 23:35.44 | honschu | I just remembered how it was at a lazy sunday when a message pops up in my messanger: "have a look at www.bundeswehr.de" - it was hacked with the text: Make peace not war - with a picture of "Fear and lothing in Las Vegas" ;-) ... pretty cool |
| 23:36.11 | amphi | heh |
| 23:36.15 | micols | this is weird, i have two name servers with exactly the same config, except one is slave the other is master. The master refuses lookups from untrusted networks, but the slave doesn't, anyone experienced this weirdness with named before? |
| 23:36.22 | micols | the only difference, named isn't the same version, that could be causing trouble perhaps |
| 23:36.34 | micols | but it seems to transfer zones just fine, its only that i can dig on one server which i shouldn't be able to, the other is fine, its 9.5 and 8.4 named servers |
| 23:36.55 | nsadmin | beautifulsnow what irc client are you using? |
| 23:37.19 | beautifulsnow | Just xchat |
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| 23:37.40 | nsadmin | ok, do you have a text/ncurses based client? |
| 23:37.43 | beautifulsnow | Not l33t enough for irssi |
| 23:37.49 | micols | http://nopaste.com/p/ah8gz8L1B anyone see that flaw in this slave dns server config? |
| 23:38.06 | Tramp | micols: I'm not an expert, but 8.4 sounds ancient. Maybe some default-configuration has changed - there is #bind, I think |
| 23:38.07 | nsadmin | do you have it installed? |
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| 23:38.27 | plsd | When I try to play an mms:// stream in Rhythmbox under Radio it crashes. If anyone wants to try this is one of the streams mms://wm-live.sr.se/SR-P1-High |
| 23:38.39 | CNerone | hi all, a question to you: I installed my etch release some days ago. Installer creates mountpoint needed by my pc in installation-moment (internal Hd, external Hd, floppy, cdrom); now I want (I have) to add further mountpoints (I have to add mmc one). How to do it? I made mkdir /media/mmc and added a line in my /etc/fstab but /media/mmc filesizeis is bigger than /media/anyothermountpoint one is. Any suggestion? |
| 23:38.42 | beautifulsnow | Not sure what ncurses is, but I can install irssi |
| 23:38.56 | Phil4 | is there a package which provides functionality to search for and connect to wireless networks? |
| 23:38.58 | micols | ncurses is the world that has been pulled over your eyes |
| 23:39.13 | lobo99 | how can I know my raid filesystem? is ext3, but when i try to mount i get: VFS: Can't find ext3 filesystem on dev md0. |
| 23:39.14 | beautifulsnow | is it a irc client? |
| 23:39.27 | micols | there is ncurses everywhere, when you go to work, when you start your screen session on your server .. etc :) |
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| 23:40.26 | beautifulsnow | Its programming @_@ |
| 23:40.27 | honschu | CNerone: Filesizeis? What is that? |
| 23:40.28 | beautifulsnow | Bleh |
| 23:40.31 | beautifulsnow | is curious now |
| 23:40.45 | nsadmin | reason I ask, is I have an idea for testing that involves installing irssi, going to one of your consoles (say ctrl-alt-F2), log in, start irssi like: irssi beaut-2 irc.freenode.net and come here |
| 23:40.59 | CNerone | honschu, filesize (in bytes) |
| 23:41.01 | micols | Tramp: its debian 4.0 so isnt that ancient |
| 23:41.13 | nsadmin | then we could see if we can get the mouse working in console using gpm |
| 23:41.17 | micols | and everything seems fine except that i am alloved relaying on it it seems |
| 23:41.18 | CNerone | honschu, filesize is |
| 23:41.34 | honschu | CNerone: I know, but what file differs from what? |
| 23:41.52 | riot | weee, have it running :D |
| 23:42.00 | beautifulsnow | I read the gpm man page and I *still* don't get what its about. Is it about configuring mouse buttons? |
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| 23:42.30 | nsadmin | no, it's for adding mouse and cut/paste in console mode |
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| 23:42.45 | beautifulsnow | Oh! |
| 23:42.45 | dondelelcaro | unless you're using the console, you pretty much could care less about gpm |
| 23:42.45 | CNerone | honschu, /media/mmc is 25 bytes, /media/usb is 1 byte |
| 23:43.01 | CNerone | honschu, wait a moment |
| 23:43.04 | beautifulsnow | Well you wanna try it? I just installed irssi so let me know if / when youre up to it |
| 23:43.22 | CNerone | honschu, I was seeing date instead of size |
| 23:43.28 | nsadmin | give it a shot now |
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| 23:43.44 | CNerone | honschu, sorry... it was a mistake |
| 23:43.49 | honschu | CNerone: maybe another bottle of beer will fix it ;) |
| 23:43.58 | beautifulsnow | dondelelcaro, can i use gpm just to "install" the mouse? the mouse is good, the driver is good, but the mouse dont even move |
| 23:44.01 | CNerone | honschu, ;) |
| 23:44.13 | dondelelcaro | beautifulsnow: doesn't move where? |
| 23:44.21 | dondelelcaro | beautifulsnow: in X? |
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| 23:44.52 | beautifulsnow | dondelelcaro, yes. |
| 23:44.53 | dondelelcaro | beautifulsnow: what happens when you cat /dev/input/mice; and move the mouse? |
| 23:44.59 | beautifulsnow | Nothing |
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| 23:45.08 | dondelelcaro | beautifulsnow: then your mouse isn't working |
| 23:45.18 | honschu | beautifulsnow: Is it a usb, ps2 or tty mouse? |
| 23:45.21 | dondelelcaro | beautifulsnow: what type of mouse is it? |
| 23:45.28 | Phil4 | is there a package which provides functionality to search for and connect to wireless networks? |
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| 23:45.32 | beautifulsnow | Well, yeah, thats why ive been sitting here all day with you guys, trying to get it to work :P |
| 23:45.37 | nsadmin | http://paste.debian.net/29149/ dondelelcaro that's beautifulsnow's dmesg |
| 23:45.46 | beautifulsnow | Phil4, wicd |
| 23:46.08 | MmikeRMRM | jelly-home, thnx, i just rebooted and /dev/sda1 is there :) |
| 23:46.09 | beautifulsnow | It's a usb wireless mouse |
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| 23:46.40 | nsadmin | beautifulsnow cat /class/input/input21 and try moving the mouse |
| 23:46.44 | honschu | beautifulsnow: And it gets detected as a USB-HID-Device? |
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| 23:46.58 | dondelelcaro | beautifulsnow: I only see the receiver there. There isn't an entry for the actual mouse |
| 23:47.05 | jelly-home | MmikeRMRM: mhm, and Chief O'Brien is going to have a hard 40 minutes. |
| 23:47.09 | beautifulsnow | I tried the class thing, that folder doenst exist |
| 23:47.18 | nsadmin | oh ok |
| 23:47.24 | beautifulsnow | Uuggggh |
| 23:47.32 | dondelelcaro | beautifulsnow: have you associated the mouse with the receiver? |
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| 23:48.15 | beautifulsnow | dondelelcaro, hmmm I didnt know I had to ^^ |
| 23:48.15 | dondelelcaro | well, you do |
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| 23:48.16 | elik | beautifulsnow, did you ever get the mouse to work with Windows or something like that? |
| 23:48.16 | Tramp | micols: bind8 end-of-life was announced in August 2007. |
| 23:48.25 | spldart | I've got an interesting one. Work PC, dual boot xp deb lenny, used to be etch. nvidia 6200 using module built with m-a. same technique used for etch formally worked perfect. This is problem. 60% of boots have no accell and res is 640x480. 40% of boots are normal with full resolution. xorg.log differs on bad boot with starting with line "(WW) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Unable to read EDID for display device CRT-0" and dmesg differs in bad boot with MISS |
| 23:48.25 | spldart | ING line "[ 1.884348] Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver". Any ideas? |
| 23:48.29 | nsadmin | jelly-home is Chief O'Brien trying to cook top ramen with the transporter again? |
| 23:48.36 | beautifulsnow | elik, with a LiveCD, and Windows 7 Install disk |
| 23:48.40 | elik | kk |
| 23:48.44 | pobega | Whenever I shut down my computer my /var partition is unmounted impoperly and I need to fsck it before I can use it...how can I tell what the problem is? (the error comes up in the last step before shutdown) |
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| 23:48.55 | jelly-home | nsadmin: he's been implated 20yrs of prison memories |
| 23:49.20 | dondelelcaro | beautifulsnow: it's also kind of odd that the usb receiver is flapping; have you been pluging and unplugging it? |
| 23:49.27 | nsadmin | beautifulsnow: curious to see an lsmod output when you're running livecd |
| 23:49.38 | beautifulsnow | Yes I have |
| 23:49.43 | beautifulsnow | Thats not on a liveCD |
| 23:49.52 | beautifulsnow | Thats on Debian right now |
| 23:50.05 | dondelelcaro | anyway, the receiver appears to be working properly |
| 23:50.11 | nsadmin | yes, understood... still curious |
| 23:50.47 | beautifulsnow | Acctually... my boyfriend has the same mouse I do, When I get home, Im going to try his. Ill see how that goes " |
| 23:51.23 | elik | you still got that liveCD? |
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| 23:51.53 | nsadmin | dondelelcaro this is somethign about how she built a module closer to the mouse (supposed to support extra buttons on the mouse) |
| 23:52.06 | beautifulsnow | I don't I'm at the library |
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| 23:52.30 | nsadmin | oh and your machine, it's a laptop? |
| 23:52.38 | elik | library |
| 23:52.48 | elik | I doubt she carries her desktop at the library ;) |
| 23:52.51 | nsadmin | it's a library? |
| 23:52.54 | beautifulsnow | elik, but if i had noticed the mouse not working on the liveCD i would have just trashed the mouse, I've been using that liveCD with this mouse for a year ^^ |
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| 23:53.08 | beautifulsnow | Yup its a lappy , dell latitude d820 |
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| 23:53.14 | elik | nsadmin, she is at a library |
| 23:53.26 | nsadmin | oh :) |
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| 23:55.26 | nsadmin | dondelelcaro so dmesg output should show also the mouse itself as well as the receiver? |
| 23:55.38 | elik | beautifulsnow, I see. It's just that mouse is rather standard. cat /dev/input/mice will trash your terminal as soon as you move the mouse |
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| 23:56.08 | nsadmin | elik, but nothing happened when she did that |
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| 23:56.12 | elik | beautifulsnow, but nsadmin said you tried to get a few more buttons to works.. so at this point, I'm lost |
| 23:56.18 | elik | nsadmin, right |
| 23:56.35 | beautifulsnow | elik, i mean, it even shows how much of the battery is left, on the mouse, on the power applet (gnome panel) |
| 23:57.09 | beautifulsnow | elik, i was trying to install lmpcm_usb (its a logitech driver) , but yes, before I tried that, yes the mouse worked with the standard driver |
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| 23:57.34 | nsadmin | beautifulsnow so when you get to where that livecd is, two helpful listings would be output of dmesg and output of lsmod |
| 23:57.49 | elik | beautifulsnow, I didn't know those kind of drivers were supported so well, fancy |
| 23:58.06 | nsadmin | when the livecd is running... also, do the cat /dev/input/mice test |
| 23:58.14 | beautifulsnow | tilts head |
| 23:58.21 | beautifulsnow | a little outdated actualyl http://daemon.prozone.org/~david/projects/lmpcm_usb/ |
| 23:58.29 | nsadmin | tilts beautifulsnow |
| 23:58.36 | nsadmin | 's chair |
| 23:58.39 | beautifulsnow | xD |
| 23:59.13 | Phil4 | thanks, beautifulsnow |
| 23:59.15 | Phil4 | works great :) |
| 23:59.38 | beautifulsnow | what does? |
| 23:59.44 | Phil4 | wicd |
| 23:59.46 | dondelelcaro | nsadmin: in theory, yes. |
| 23:59.48 | honschu | beautifulsnow: For my mx518-Logitech I'm using the event driver. I don't know if this helps ;) |
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