| 00:00.09 | pl4yer0ne | pidof maybe celeritas |
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| 00:00.53 | zyon | jiontro: lets rock |
| 00:00.59 | jiontro | ok |
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| 00:01.30 | jpinx | any ideas why ntfs-3g is continually taking up about 5% of my cpu? |
| 00:01.30 | jiontro | i have made a virtual host for localhost for testing the apache, bind and all services |
| 00:01.52 | jiontro | i'ved installed using apt-get gallery2 |
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| 00:02.51 | action09 | jpinx it's because of Evil MS :) |
| 00:03.00 | jiontro | and when i add the gallery conf from the main server conf.d directory to the allready made virtual, i get this error: |
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| 00:03.16 | jiontro | [error] [client 127.0.0.1] attempt to invoke directory '/usr/share/gallery2/' as script |
| 00:03.26 | jiontro | what this mean? |
| 00:03.37 | jpinx | action09: I presumed as much - I suppose I'll just have to convert to ext3 :-| |
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| 00:04.13 | mib_mui0ud | thanks |
| 00:04.15 | rhodescus | celeritas: you figure it out? I have a script. |
| 00:04.24 | celeritas | yeah |
| 00:04.30 | celeritas | thanks |
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| 00:05.18 | rhodescus | celeritas: good, cause my script is sorta complicated. |
| 00:05.19 | ghosTM55 | hi all , anyone here using qemu? i installed kqemu-common but still i don't have /dev/kqemu and can't modprobe kqemu |
| 00:05.55 | avtobiff | ghosTM55, what cpu do you have? and what cpu are you telling qemu to use? |
| 00:05.55 | celeritas | rhodescus: all this mess because ssh refuses to support udp forwarding |
| 00:06.02 | jpinx | I'm short on resources and need to save - firefox takes over 85% of my 500MHz cpu while loading gmail |
| 00:06.05 | celeritas | rhodescus: or do you know of a patch/newer version which does? |
| 00:06.12 | jpinx | any ideas on improving performance? |
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| 00:06.32 | ghosTM55 | avtobiff: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T7250 @ 2.00GHz |
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| 00:06.38 | themill | ghosTM55: etch, lenny? |
| 00:06.41 | jiontro | <zyon>, and all, any ideea about this error? which comes also for phpmyadmin? |
| 00:06.44 | ghosTM55 | themill: lenny |
| 00:06.47 | rhodescus | celeritas: nope. If you want to forward udp use openvpn. |
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| 00:07.03 | celeritas | well, it's only one port, so that's why I'm using netcat to pipe it through TCP |
| 00:07.14 | rhodescus | celeritas: if you can, or maybe netcat (nc) |
| 00:07.46 | celeritas | surprising there isn't a patch yet, kind of annoying with nc though |
| 00:07.57 | themill | ghosTM55: it certainly used to be the case that you needed to build the kqemu module yourself using m-a. |
| 00:08.27 | _Maru_ | How do I start a process as a specified user? |
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| 00:08.37 | rhodescus | celeritas: I never thought of it. |
| 00:08.44 | WX_0 | Anyone else use apt-build before? Error link: http://pastebin.com/m2a0edf11 |
| 00:08.53 | rhodescus | ghosTM55: I've had to insmod kqemu before |
| 00:08.55 | avtobiff | ghosTM55, it seems kqemu-common only has hooks for loading the kqemu module, it does not contain the module itself |
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| 00:09.28 | zyon | jiontro: sorry at the first moment I have any idea |
| 00:09.30 | ghosTM55 | themill: i googled a lot and found the method you said , but why doesn't debian make it easier just like other distro ? just install the kqemu package and make it work ? i don't get it ;-( |
| 00:09.44 | ghosTM55 | avtobiff: i see... |
| 00:10.08 | Mox` | hmm when I try to save fdisk i get this error: "WARNING: Re-reading the partition table failed with error 16: Device or resource busy." - how do I fix this? :S |
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| 00:10.30 | rhodescus | Mox`: reboot |
| 00:10.44 | rhodescus | Mox`: or telinit 1 and remount ro |
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| 00:10.47 | Federico2 | bye |
| 00:10.54 | jiontro | zyon: i'ved tried to find the answer for that error on every forum and nothing..... |
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| 00:11.14 | hogwash | hi |
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| 00:11.25 | Mox` | rhodan what does telinit 1 do? |
| 00:12.03 | hogwash | im installing the minimal Debian (what they call, business card size), and im stuck at the installing the base system. is it becuase i havent selected a working mirror ? |
| 00:12.11 | themill | ghosTM55: originally, there were legal problems with providing precompiled binaries, but that shouldn't be a problem now. I don't know why it hasn't changed. See http://wiki.debian.org/QEMU |
| 00:12.28 | rhodescus | Mox`: puts you in single-user mode, shutting down all the daemons. Basically it closes all the files on the filesystem. |
| 00:12.36 | ghosTM55 | themill: thx for help :) |
| 00:13.11 | Mox` | rhodescus hmm, i'm installing over ssh? :S |
| 00:13.33 | hogwash | Im trying mirrors.tummy.com which is in the USA. hopefully that works. |
| 00:13.36 | rhodescus | Mox`: OK, usually when you see that error, if you can reboot, the partition table will refresh when the system comes back up. |
| 00:13.53 | rhodescus | Mox`: don't telinit 1 if you don't have physical access to the box :P |
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| 00:14.06 | Mox` | rhodescus okay :) |
| 00:15.46 | zyon | jiontro: I think you have a problem with you virtual-host config |
| 00:15.51 | hogwash | i keep getting an error, asking if i want to proceed with an unclean target. |
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| 00:15.57 | hogwash | is it safe to proceed? |
| 00:16.26 | hogwash | if not, what are unclean targets doing in the mirrors ? |
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| 00:16.43 | rhodescus | hogwash: target is your install filesystem. |
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| 00:17.00 | hogwash | oh. |
| 00:17.17 | rhodescus | hogwash: usually that means offline-uncorrectable disk sectors. |
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| 00:17.32 | hogwash | im coming from suse. i hope it overwrite suse. |
| 00:17.36 | hogwash | and leaves no trace of suse |
| 00:18.15 | rhodescus | hogwash: I'd boot the system rescue distro and run the smart analyzer on the disk. |
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| 00:18.53 | Mox` | how do I make 2 disk to raid 1? :S |
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| 00:19.38 | bolt | !mdadm |
| 00:20.21 | bolt | from one of my machines, when I ssh to my server, the ssh banner (not motd, the Banner in sshd_config) has its backslashes escaped (\ is drawn as \\). there is some ascii art in the banner, which gets all screwed up by this. what could be wrong? tested rxvt, xfce4-terminal and xterm. all do this on the current box, on the two others they don't. UTF-8 locale on all, $TERM set correctly. |
| 00:20.21 | evilGUI_ | Is it possible to run commands as another user but root? |
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| 00:20.40 | evilGUI_ | I created a new user and would like to run commands as him. |
| 00:20.52 | rhodescus | evilGUI_: sudo -u |
| 00:21.04 | hogwash | hey the russian mirrors work!! American shit sucks. and i live in Pennsylvania. |
| 00:21.23 | bolt | motherland!! |
| 00:21.35 | rhodescus | evilGUI_: or su <username> |
| 00:22.00 | rhodescus | hogwash: I'd try the disk analyzer. You can force sector reassignment by trying to install repeatedly. |
| 00:22.03 | celeritas | rhodescus: well, I learned that it just can't work. ssh won't ever give me a pid if I must run it interactively for the password |
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| 00:22.09 | rhodescus | hogwash: but your disk is still going down. |
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| 00:22.41 | rhodescus | celeritas: there's a solution with the parent shell pid ($$) and pgrep. |
| 00:23.09 | evilGUI_ | Thanks. |
| 00:23.23 | rhodescus | evilGUI_: welcome |
| 00:24.12 | rhodescus | celeritas: pgrep and sed |
| 00:24.40 | hogwash | rhodescus: i'll get on that after installation. thanx pal. |
| 00:24.59 | hogwash | what program. fsck ? |
| 00:25.07 | rhodescus | hogwash: smartmontools |
| 00:25.11 | hogwash | thanx |
| 00:25.19 | rhodescus | hogwash: run smartctrl -A /dev/??? |
| 00:25.31 | hogwash | gotcha |
| 00:26.12 | rhodescus | hogwash: examine reallocated_sector_ct |
| 00:26.29 | rhodescus | hogwash: if non-zero, you've had bad sectors |
| 00:26.49 | rhodescus | hogwash: if offline_uncorrectable is nonzero, you've lost data. |
| 00:27.23 | rhodescus | hogwash: reallocated_event_count is usually self-corrected. |
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| 00:31.39 | Mox` | how do I delete a software array? /dev/md0? |
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| 00:32.24 | rhodescus | Mox`: use the mdadm console |
| 00:32.42 | Mox` | oke thanks |
| 00:33.13 | rhodescus | you're welcome |
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| 00:35.03 | zeitsofa | how i can find out vsftpd logins are not show in /var/log/auth.log? vsftpd.conf is configured to use pam file /etc/pam.d/vsftpd and i can login with local users. |
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| 00:36.08 | icebrain | hi, how can I mount a reiserfs? Mount manpage says it's one of the options, but then it says unknown fs type |
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| 00:37.49 | rhodescus | icebrain: I don't use it, but you probably have to install a kernel module, and you need the reiserfsprogs package installed. |
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| 00:38.30 | icebrain | rhodescus: I've installed that package, but I haven't loaded the kernel module. thanks |
| 00:38.46 | rhodescus | icebrain: you're welcome |
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| 00:39.09 | Darkside | new network-manager-kde is broken for me |
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| 00:39.50 | knubbli__ | heyho |
| 00:40.10 | knubbli__ | check this out http://tinyurl.com/rolfxd lol |
| 00:41.08 | rhodescus | knubbli__: es ist auf deutsch? |
| 00:41.15 | rhodescus | knubbli__: is that porn? |
| 00:41.48 | knubbli__ | jep is es |
| 00:41.56 | rhodescus | knubbli__: this isn't a porn channel |
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| 00:42.19 | Viana | hi |
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| 00:42.47 | Viana | How can I install debian using a external disk instead to burn a CD: |
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| 00:42.55 | Viana | ? |
| 00:43.13 | rhodescus | Viana: you don't have a CD drive? |
| 00:43.25 | Viana | I do |
| 00:43.44 | Viana | but I don't have a CD to burn right now |
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| 00:43.49 | rhodescus | Viana: Ah |
| 00:44.15 | Viana | and also I don't think my CD-RW is working |
| 00:44.30 | rhodescus | http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst |
| 00:44.41 | rhodescus | Viana: try that |
| 00:45.08 | rhodescus | Viana: floppy or usb stick |
| 00:45.31 | rhodescus | Viana: what system if any are you running at the moment? |
| 00:45.56 | Viana | windows xp |
| 00:46.06 | Viana | and I want run both for now |
| 00:46.17 | Viana | thanks for the advice, I will try do it now |
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| 00:46.42 | rhodescus | Viana: OK, good luck |
| 00:46.53 | ttyS1 | I'm running Debian on a laptop, is there a specific way Debian handles switching video output to Projector screen. (VGA out). It is not working like it should when i press the LCD/VIDEOOUT key |
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| 00:47.11 | Maulkin | ttyS1: which version of Debian? |
| 00:47.17 | ttyS1 | 5.0 |
| 00:47.22 | rhodescus | ttyS1: That's specific to the driver for your chipset (X11 driver) |
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| 00:48.06 | Knorrie | found out that on his thinkpad t41 the vga port is being enabled while there's a cable connected + X restart |
| 00:48.10 | ttyS1 | oh ok so the driver handles that also |
| 00:48.22 | Viana | Another question, I've found the effect in Ubunto quite impressive, like the ones found in Mac and Vista. Does Debians has the same resources? |
| 00:48.27 | rhodescus | ttyS1: yeah, mine is automatic, lucky me |
| 00:48.30 | Viana | ... or effects? |
| 00:48.33 | avtobiff | ttyS1, you might have more success with xrandr --output VGA --mode 800x600 or something similar |
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| 00:48.49 | Knorrie | !xrandr |
| 00:48.49 | dpkg | somebody said xrandr was a command-line interface to the RandR extension; used to set the screen size, orientation and/or reflection; |
| 00:48.57 | Knorrie | oh cool |
| 00:48.59 | Eulex | ttyS1, sometimes, that button is handled by the bios... but nowadays, more and more is becoming software-driven. |
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| 00:49.20 | avtobiff | Viana, do you mean compiz? (the desktop effects?) |
| 00:49.21 | anxiolytic | I have this problem and I'm following the paper: http://shearer.org/Debugging_Dpkg_Problems - trying to install libc too, but the matching library is libc6.so.6 |
| 00:49.28 | ttyS1 | yeah I was thinking it was the Bios that was handling that |
| 00:49.32 | avtobiff | Viana, and compiz-fusion maybe |
| 00:49.36 | anxiolytic | on that site the matching lib was libpthread. I don't think it's safe to follow his suggestion with libc |
| 00:49.38 | anxiolytic | help? |
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| 00:50.53 | Viana | avtofiff, what do you mean? |
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| 00:52.12 | ttyS1 | avtobiff: that's a manual way to enabling the video output ? |
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| 00:54.50 | ttyS1 | avtobiff: I'll try that thanks |
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| 00:59.38 | hogwash | this is taking awfully a long time to install. at 156 of 811 files? i thought this was a minimal install. is this normal ? |
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| 01:00.02 | theholyduck | hogwash, netinstall and selected desktop right? |
| 01:00.07 | theholyduck | thats not very minimal at all :P |
| 01:00.22 | theholyduck | desktop pulls in pretty much EVERYTHING |
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| 01:00.26 | simonrvn | if you asked for more than minimum, like theholyduck just mentioned, then yes it is normal, and not minimal. |
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| 01:00.56 | hikenboot | hello all how do i identify which snapshot of a volume is the active one ? |
| 01:01.39 | hogwash | desktop yes. i dont recall doing netinstall. mabey i have. |
| 01:01.47 | hogwash | can i abort this and do a non-net install? |
| 01:01.56 | hogwash | like roll back a step ? |
| 01:02.52 | hogwash | i guess i'll just reboot |
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| 01:03.22 | hogwash | is netinstall the default for the minimal cd? |
| 01:04.24 | corey | mysqldb |
| 01:05.11 | simonrvn | hogwash: don't select anything on the tasksel screen, then you can skip ahead to aptitude, or not, and do it once you've done the final install reboot and logged in. |
| 01:05.27 | simonrvn | does that more often than not |
| 01:05.58 | simonrvn | even with 5 Mb/s down it's fucking slow to d/l and install 'desktop' task.... |
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| 01:06.28 | hogwash | simonrvn: you mean dont select a mirror ? |
| 01:06.44 | simonrvn | i didn't say that, did i. |
| 01:07.09 | hogwash | oh, when you say tasksel screen, is that the one with the options Desktop,web server ... |
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| 01:07.15 | simonrvn | tasksel is the screen where you chose the desktop task. |
| 01:07.19 | simonrvn | yes |
| 01:07.23 | hogwash | gotcha, thanx |
| 01:07.33 | anxiolytic | can somebody please take a look at this "copy of glibc was found in an unexpected location" problem http://pastie.org/403463 |
| 01:07.40 | simonrvn | np. have fun |
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| 01:08.29 | Jendra | watch this http://tinyurl.com/pwnd44 xD |
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| 01:10.47 | simonrvn | wtf should we, it's just gonna be either a rickroll, a spam or spyware site, or porn. |
| 01:11.46 | anxiolytic | I REALLY need help with this. It's been about 3 months: http://pastie.org/403463 |
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| 01:12.17 | Alaisa | look at that http://tinyurl.com/omfg11 lol |
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| 01:12.48 | simonrvn | thanks, was about to say |
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| 01:13.45 | dondelelcaro | anxiolytic: you have a copy of libc6 in /usr/lib/libc.so.6 |
| 01:14.05 | dondelelcaro | anxiolytic: this is totally not the right place for it. Have you been installing non-debian packages or compiling things on your own? |
| 01:14.33 | simonrvn | ouchies, libc6 in /usr ? |
| 01:15.13 | dondelelcaro | anxiolytic: the installer sees this, and bugs out, because having a non-functional libc6 is *bad* |
| 01:15.17 | anxiolytic | dondelelcaro: It's a web server with many users. I guess somebody did |
| 01:15.22 | anxiolytic | yeah |
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| 01:17.49 | anxiolytic | simonrvn, dondelelcaro: What can I do? |
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| 01:19.39 | simonrvn | what brain damaged installer would put that in /usr ? even the bsds put gnu libc in / somewhere. |
| 01:20.54 | pantos | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:20.55 | simonrvn | is pondering the safest way |
| 01:21.06 | pantos | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:21.23 | pantos | I think openbsd co-opted ports from freebsd and uses /usr/local |
| 01:21.33 | simonrvn | /usr/pkg is for building, or downloading packages |
| 01:21.42 | pantos | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:21.47 | pantos | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:21.51 | simonrvn | it installs it to /sys/linux |
| 01:21.52 | pantos | is for building |
| 01:21.58 | simonrvn | oh yeh |
| 01:22.24 | pantos | I've worked on it :) |
| 01:22.43 | simonrvn | i briefly played with it, heh. |
| 01:22.50 | pantos | it is a neat system |
| 01:22.55 | nkuttler | anxiolytic: a rescue cd would work.. but you should really ask yourself how that stuff ended up there |
| 01:22.55 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 01:23.08 | pantos | conceptually it fits well into the bsd-unix way of doing things |
| 01:23.43 | pantos | netbsd pkgsrc actually can work on linux and will not wiz on the linux packager |
| 01:23.53 | simonrvn | nkuttler: i think that's the best way |
| 01:24.09 | pantos | i think it uses the same nomenclature; pkgsrc and pkg trees so it never tromps on apt |
| 01:24.15 | pantos | or rpm or whatever |
| 01:24.24 | simonrvn | i didn't play much with netbsd, more with freebsd. |
| 01:24.32 | pantos | can't remember what it is called tho |
| 01:24.46 | pantos | ya these days i use freebsd more |
| 01:24.48 | simonrvn | .deb |
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| 01:25.02 | pantos | naw the name of the netbsd portable pkg system |
| 01:25.16 | pantos | brb - I'll look it up after I make a quick run |
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| 01:25.19 | simonrvn | oh, um... |
| 01:25.29 | nkuttler | anxiolytic: you probably have pieces of that lib all over your system, really bad |
| 01:25.33 | simonrvn | IIRC they call it ports too? |
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| 01:30.50 | Sam_IRC_ | hey guys, how would i start up fluxbox? |
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| 01:31.08 | Sam_IRC_ | and xterm |
| 01:31.21 | dondelelcaro | Sam_IRC_: exec fluxbox in your ~/.xsession |
| 01:31.50 | Sam_IRC_ | dondelelcaro: is there a command or something? |
| 01:31.52 | dondelelcaro | Sam_IRC_: you can also start it by putting a session in your DM's session configuration, or doing other things |
| 01:32.09 | foetus | may i introduce my fresh selfbaken centerim.. |
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| 01:33.04 | Sam_IRC_ | dondelelcaro: slice1@debian1:~$ exec fluxbox >> ~/.vnc/xstartup |
| 01:33.04 | Sam_IRC_ | Error: Couldn't connect to XServer |
| 01:33.05 | Sam_IRC_ | Connection to 192.168.4.2 closed. |
| 01:33.11 | Sam_IRC_ | that came out of no where :| |
| 01:33.41 | dondelelcaro | Sam_IRC_: exec is a command |
| 01:34.21 | dondelelcaro | Sam_IRC_: so you need to edit whatever session file to add exec fluxbox there (or use echo 'exec fluxbox' >> ~/.xsession; or whatever file is appropriate) |
| 01:34.22 | Sam_IRC_ | Yeah. But what about not being about to connect to XServer? |
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| 01:34.36 | dondelelcaro | Sam_IRC_: that's because you tried to *run* fluxblox |
| 01:34.56 | dondelelcaro | Sam_IRC_: and presumably, you don't have a DISPLAY set, or there isn't a way to connect to that X server |
| 01:35.10 | nkuttler | Sam_IRC_: man startfluxbox |
| 01:35.47 | pantos | simonv: ah okay - it is now all under pkgsrc |
| 01:35.56 | pantos | http://netbsd.org/docs/software/packages.html |
| 01:36.05 | Sam_IRC_ | hmm |
| 01:36.27 | pantos | netbsd used to have a mirror pkgsrc system under another name but I guess they unified it |
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| 01:39.21 | hogwash | uhh... i just set the partitioning scheme, and it's now installing the base system with out asking me if i wanted Desktop, Web Server, email server... |
| 01:39.33 | Sam_IRC_ | dondelelcaro: forget about fluxbox, what about xterm? |
| 01:39.35 | Sam_IRC_ | how would i start that |
| 01:39.52 | asdf | how do i tell aptitude to cancel all the selected packages for install? when i hit 'g' it wnats to insall a bunch of stuff, not sure why |
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| 01:46.14 | HeXiLeD | i have a wierd issue with one debian install .. i have 2 eth cards and they are listed as eth2 and eth3 and not eth0 and eth1 . why ? this happened after install |
| 01:46.27 | dondelelcaro | Sam_IRC_: (xterm &) |
| 01:46.51 | Sam_IRC_ | dondelelcaro: hmm |
| 01:46.52 | Sam_IRC_ | xterm Xt error: Can't open display: |
| 01:46.52 | Sam_IRC_ | xterm: DISPLAY is not set |
| 01:47.18 | dondelelcaro | Sam_IRC_: yes... you kind of have to have a running X with DISPLAY set in order to start an xterm or anything |
| 01:47.27 | Rothgar` | Why in Lenny when I use apt-get remove and sometimes apt-get purge it doesn't seem to remove the package completely? |
| 01:47.28 | Sam_IRC_ | I am. I'm even in VNC with it |
| 01:47.38 | dondelelcaro | Sam_IRC_: well, clearly not, since DISPLAY isn't set |
| 01:47.44 | Rothgar` | I installed sendmail and then removed it and the sendmail binaries are still on the system? |
| 01:47.47 | Sam_IRC_ | dondelelcaro: how would i set it? |
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| 01:48.24 | dondelelcaro | Rothgar`: sendmail is just a metapackage that depends on sendmail-base, sendmail-bin, and a few other things |
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| 01:49.31 | Rothgar` | Ah thanks dondelelcaro |
| 01:49.46 | hogwash | i keep missing the screen tasksel screen. i set up partitioning. then it goes and downloads all this stuff with out asking me what i want. |
| 01:50.17 | dondelelcaro | hogwash: it downloads the base stuff first, then asks you about tasks |
| 01:50.23 | hogwash | oh ok |
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| 01:50.35 | hogwash | dondelelcaro: do you live in the US? whats a working mirror. |
| 01:50.45 | hogwash | i picked 2 and they were lousy |
| 01:50.51 | hogwash | http |
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| 01:51.11 | nkuttler | HeXiLeD: you can use something like ifrename or use udev |
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| 01:51.31 | hogwash | sorry let me rephrase, upon base installatoin, it says retrieveing <pkg>. is this via the internet or whats on the cd i burned? |
| 01:51.34 | HeXiLeD | nkuttler and ? |
| 01:51.46 | dondelelcaro | hogwash: if it's on the cd, it uses the cd. If it's not, it uses the network |
| 01:51.48 | nkuttler | HeXiLeD: ? |
| 01:52.13 | hogwash | well it's taking long time. |
| 01:52.19 | Fleg | Is there anywhere I can get a radius compiled with openssl in a .deb? |
| 01:52.20 | dondelelcaro | hogwash: if you have a full cd, it should all be on the cd. I think all of base is on the netinst cd too, but I can't say for certain |
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| 01:52.56 | hogwash | for a minimail "busines size" installation, it's at 6% and it's been 10 minits |
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| 01:53.07 | hogwash | err business card size |
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| 01:53.20 | dondelelcaro | hogwash: business card isos require using the network to download base |
| 01:53.26 | Sam_IRC_ | dondelelcaro: what can i do to set the display? |
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| 01:53.52 | hogwash | damn. |
| 01:54.05 | hogwash | i just want a minimal installed debian. |
| 01:54.11 | dondelelcaro | Sam_IRC_: if you're running a real X server, it happens automatically for you. If you're not, then you'll have to provide details on what exactly you're trying to do |
| 01:54.23 | dondelelcaro | hogwash: well, you can either choose a faster mirror, or you can use the full cd. |
| 01:54.25 | t101__ | i need to install jre in Debian 5.0 |
| 01:54.36 | Sam_IRC_ | dondelelcaro: i'm setting up a utorrent |
| 01:54.55 | streuner | lol |
| 01:55.18 | hogwash | well i was choosing russia since american mirrors suck (like everything else in this lousy cuntry). i suppose i'll go witht he full cd |
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| 01:55.34 | hogwash | does the full cd come with KDE ? |
| 01:55.53 | dondelelcaro | hogwash: uh... there are mirrors that don't suck, actually. |
| 01:56.07 | dondelelcaro | hogwash: but which one you should choose depends on where in the network topology you are |
| 01:56.20 | hogwash | all the one i chose sucked.ALL of em |
| 01:56.25 | dondelelcaro | (there are public mirrors which I routinely get 8Mbyte/s) |
| 01:56.28 | hogwash | PA |
| 01:56.35 | dondelelcaro | hogwash: so use the mit mirror |
| 01:56.40 | hogwash | sucks |
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| 01:56.51 | Sam_IRC | dondelelcaro: do you have any experience in that or what? |
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| 01:57.00 | hogwash | i'll start again, and tell the the crap it forks me. |
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| 01:57.35 | dondelelcaro | Sam_IRC: what does utorrent have to do with how you're attempting to display an X client? |
| 01:57.45 | Sam_IRC | dondelelcaro: so i can access it via vnc |
| 01:58.07 | dondelelcaro | Sam_IRC: why would you bother? just ssh into the machine |
| 01:58.14 | jonaskoelker | Hi all. I want my IP traffic to a given range to be routed from my own machine through another machine on which I have access as an ordinary user. Is this possible? How do I go about it? |
| 01:58.20 | Sam_IRC | dondelelcaro: because i can :) |
| 01:58.28 | dondelelcaro | Sam_IRC: and in any event, it still doesn't tell me how you expect to see the output from whatever X client you're running |
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| 01:58.52 | HeXiLeD | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:59.11 | Sam_IRC | if i can just start fluxbox and have it appear in the display of vnc that would work |
| 01:59.21 | dondelelcaro | HeXiLeD: ifconfig -a; or ip maddr |
| 01:59.34 | mischief6 | jonaskoelker, make a socks5 proxy using ssh tunneling |
| 01:59.37 | cixx | jonaskoelker: IP tunnel, ssh socks proxy.. |
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| 02:00.56 | jonaskoelker | that works for torrent trackers? |
| 02:01.28 | jonaskoelker | (the ssh man page says that socks works by looking at the application protocol...) |
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| 02:04.14 | patintin | waves |
| 02:04.15 | jonaskoelker | mischief6, cixx: okay, so I figure I do "ssh -D 1234 otherbox". Then how do I route traffic to a particular range of IPs through the proxy? |
| 02:04.58 | mischief6 | jonaskoelker, that is a dynamic socks5 proxy |
| 02:05.06 | jonaskoelker | mischief6: meaning what? |
| 02:05.11 | mischief6 | http://www.xroxy.com/proxy-type-Socks5.htm |
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| 02:05.46 | mischief6 | if a program supports socks5 proxying, instead of connecting directly to the target, it will first go through the socks5 proxy and then do requests on the exit node |
| 02:06.09 | patintin | is it possible to create 2 different self-signed certificates on a single server? |
| 02:06.26 | jonaskoelker | mischief6: okay... so is "ssh -D 1234 otherbox" what I should be doing? |
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| 02:06.34 | mischief6 | alternatively, you can make static tunnels using the -L flag jonaskoelker, which don't require SOCKS5 proxy support |
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| 02:06.50 | mischief6 | jonaskoelker, read the man page. the only argument to -D is a port, iirc. |
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| 02:07.43 | jonaskoelker | mischief6: uhh... so, I have some packets on box A, destined for network C, which I want to originate from box B (fka otherbox). How does -L help me with that? |
| 02:07.45 | cixx | jonaskoelker: after creating the tunnel tell your applications that are using port range x:y to use the socks proxy on localhost:port. |
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| 02:08.19 | mischief6 | jonaskoelker, -L is a static tunnel. the destination does not change. |
| 02:08.30 | jonaskoelker | mischief6: ah, okay. So it doesn't solve my problem |
| 02:08.32 | jonaskoelker | right? |
| 02:08.32 | patintin | anyone? |
| 02:08.52 | mischief6 | i.e -L 3306:mywebhost:3306, if you wanted to connect to a remote mysqld C through box B from machine A |
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| 02:10.03 | jonaskoelker | mischief6: I think for my torrent client to connect to 127.0.0.1:3306, that'd take me modifying my .torrent file, which I don't like the sound of |
| 02:10.36 | mischief6 | jonaskoelker, so you just want to torrent through a remote host? |
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| 02:10.38 | hogwash | lug.mit.edu is a great mirror. |
| 02:10.42 | cixx | jonaskoelker: tell your torrent application zu use a socks proxy und localhost:3306 - no modifying of a torrent or anything like that |
| 02:10.44 | hogwash | there was an otherone that sucked. |
| 02:10.59 | jonaskoelker | mischief6: no, I just want to connect to the tracker through a remote host |
| 02:11.08 | jonaskoelker | mischief6: the data isn't on thepiratebay.org :) |
| 02:11.54 | mischief6 | i don't think you can tell a torrent client to connect to specifically the tracker with a proxy |
| 02:12.12 | mischief6 | maybe some clients can be configured that way but none i know of, it's all (or mostly all) or nothing |
| 02:12.15 | cixx | doesn't make sense though |
| 02:12.52 | jonaskoelker | ah, because the tracker is going to want to tell everyone to go talk to the proxy? |
| 02:13.37 | mischief6 | if the protocol works that way |
| 02:13.59 | mischief6 | jonaskoelker, in utorrent you can have it report a specific hostname to the tracker |
| 02:14.15 | mischief6 | but that would still expose where you want torrent data sent to, which is not what you want i suspect |
| 02:14.22 | cixx | the tracker does not know "oh, the IP that reached my announce is a proxy, the data has to got to another destination" |
| 02:15.04 | jonaskoelker | mischief6: it's exactly what I want |
| 02:15.17 | jonaskoelker | I'm trying to get around my ISP not letting me talk to TPB |
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| 02:15.30 | mischief6 | jonaskoelker, website is blocked or tracker is blocked? |
| 02:15.48 | jonaskoelker | dns is spoofed, traffic is redirected to ISP's box |
| 02:16.00 | jonaskoelker | ip range is blocked |
| 02:16.10 | mischief6 | oh my |
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| 02:16.15 | mischief6 | do you use utorrent? |
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| 02:16.26 | jonaskoelker | soon :) |
| 02:16.37 | jonaskoelker | it's pkged for debian? |
| 02:16.56 | mischief6 | jonaskoelker, in utorrent you will want to select the option for FORCED encryption, and disallow incoming legacy connections |
| 02:17.27 | mischief6 | and it sounds like tunneling everything through a dynamic socks5 ssh proxy is for you |
| 02:17.27 | ThoMe | hello! :-) |
| 02:17.38 | ThoMe | I'm using a system with the debian kernel image 2.6.26-1 along with misdn. After a system update the initrd was rebuilt - unloading the mISDN_dsp module now gives a segmentation fault. |
| 02:18.04 | ThoMe | i've tried this on three different boxes with very different hardware - even tried a fresh install on a new machine but the problem stays the same. |
| 02:18.24 | ThoMe | is the initrd being generated any different than before? was there any recent change that could cause my problem? |
| 02:18.41 | jonaskoelker | mischief6: well, I don't want to download the torrented file(s) through the connection at the university |
| 02:18.53 | jonaskoelker | that's for my own bandwidth bill, not theirs |
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| 02:19.50 | mischief6 | jonaskoelker, why don't you just use magnet links? |
| 02:20.00 | jonaskoelker | mischief6: I don't know |
| 02:20.12 | jonaskoelker | mischief6: how do I go about that? |
| 02:20.14 | ThoMe | ideas? :-) |
| 02:20.21 | mischief6 | actually i am not sure if TPB offers magnet links..but they should. |
| 02:20.31 | jonaskoelker | mischief6: I think you got your awnser there ;-) |
| 02:20.52 | mischief6 | jonaskoelker, some trackers offer magnet links which is a URI for a .torrent file. basically, your client will get the .torrent file..without actually downloading it. |
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| 02:21.03 | jonaskoelker | O_o |
| 02:21.28 | mischief6 | jonaskoelker, perhaps you could take a look at isohunt. it is a metatracker, which indexes a few other trackers including tpb. and they offer magnet links i believe. |
| 02:21.30 | jonaskoelker | mischief6: still, the problem is not getting the torrent files |
| 02:21.47 | jonaskoelker | the problem is talking to the trackers |
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| 02:21.56 | mischief6 | jonaskoelker, like i said, force encryption |
| 02:21.59 | mischief6 | it does wonders |
| 02:22.07 | jonaskoelker | so that I can see other peers. How are magnet links going to help me if all the trackers are on the pirate bay? |
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| 02:22.19 | jonaskoelker | really? How's that going to help me if my ISP steals all the traffic to that traffic range? |
| 02:22.49 | mischief6 | jonaskoelker, you can find peers through DHT |
| 02:22.57 | mischief6 | (i believe) |
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| 02:23.38 | jonaskoelker | mischief6: but not if they're all on TPB |
| 02:24.21 | mischief6 | honestly, i am not sure jonaskoelker. i do not know the inner workings of the bittorrent protocol or DHT, all i know is that it is good. |
| 02:24.35 | mischief6 | you really ought to try out magnet links and DHT, and you can always use ssh -D. |
| 02:24.35 | jonaskoelker | it is |
| 02:24.58 | Viana | I downloaded dosfstools_3.0.2-1_i386.deb. Can anyone tell me how could I execute mkdosfs /dev/sdX1 from my MS-DOS prompt? |
| 02:25.12 | hogwash | hi, so i installed the business size Debian. before apt-get installing kdm (or any package), how can i tell if it already is installed. |
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| 02:26.56 | HeXiLeD | Reconfiguring network interfaces.../etc/network/interfaces:2: misplaced option . what option can it be ? |
| 02:27.16 | Viana | anyone? |
| 02:27.29 | Maior | HeXiLeD: what does line 2 say? |
| 02:27.43 | HeXiLeD | auto lo |
| 02:27.52 | HeXiLeD | iface lo inet loopback |
| 02:27.53 | Maior | hogwash: dpkg -I, iirc |
| 02:27.54 | HeXiLeD | 1 and 2 |
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| 02:28.21 | turtletits | Maior: thanx pal |
| 02:28.36 | HeXiLeD | now i have Reconfiguring network interfaces.../etc/network/interfaces:7: too many parameters for iface line |
| 02:28.39 | HeXiLeD | line 2 is solved |
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| 02:29.19 | HeXiLeD | iface eth0 inet static |
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| 02:29.46 | adb | HeXiLeD: paste /etc/network/interfaces . use a paste site |
| 02:29.58 | Maior | HeXiLeD: right, so now fix that line... |
| 02:30.01 | HeXiLeD | it's solved |
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| 02:37.05 | XenuTH | Can anyone tell me if there is a package to use a cable tuner card ? I have query'ed with no luck? |
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| 02:40.19 | Viana | I got it |
| 02:40.25 | Viana | there is a zip |
| 02:40.26 | Macer | hm |
| 02:40.33 | Macer | well... let me take my stab at debian |
| 02:40.34 | Macer | :) |
| 02:40.46 | Macer | have to replace fbsd off a big box i have |
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| 02:45.13 | HarbingerX | can't figure it out, I have kernel 2.6.26-1-686 and according to the kde hardware connections it reads and even says my linksys wmp54g wifi pci card is detected and enabled....but the kde wifi seems to not be detecting any signals from my WRT54 Wireless-G router....2.6.26 has the rt* modules for my wifi card and should work but don't know if I'm forgetting something as I can't find a page on how to set up a wifi connection that is de |
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| 02:47.05 | turtletits | i already have xserver-xorg yet logfiles say i need a session and window manager. |
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| 02:51.36 | zionist | anyone install the business card size, minimal installation ? |
| 02:51.57 | WX_0 | zionist: Nope |
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| 02:57.32 | mnguyen | Anybody here have a default /etc/group? I accidently overwrote my /etc/group using usermod =| |
| 02:57.44 | HarbingerX | is there a page that shows how to set up a wifi connection under gnome or kde? |
| 02:58.28 | adb | !missconf |
| 02:58.34 | HarbingerX | trying to figure out if I'm missing a step or not as to why my card appears not to work under debian |
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| 02:59.06 | WX_0 | HarbingerX: You may have to use nddiswrapper if there's no wifi driver available |
| 02:59.10 | Texou | hi :) |
| 02:59.26 | WX_0 | HarbingerX: http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi |
| 02:59.52 | Texou | do you know where gdm puts its errors logs, these which appear before login? |
| 03:00.11 | Texou | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:00.17 | HarbingerX | WX_0: according to the kernel I have the rt* modules loaded, and KDEs hardware is showing both my eth0 and wlan0 as being enabled....but can't seem to get it to read any signals from my router |
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| 03:01.38 | adb | HarbingerX: try wifi-radar |
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| 03:02.53 | abrotman | bahadunn: yes? |
| 03:02.55 | abrotman | streuner: yes? |
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| 03:04.11 | konix | french ??? irc |
| 03:04.50 | adb | try #debian-fr on oftc.debian.net |
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| 03:04.56 | null_ | I like debian, yes i do :) |
| 03:05.01 | null_ | I like debian, so do you :) |
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| 03:07.04 | t101__ | i need to install JRE in Debian 5.0 |
| 03:08.09 | abrotman | t101__: i386? |
| 03:08.26 | t101__ | yeah |
| 03:08.31 | null_ | http://crossfire.real-time.com/editors/install/linux_debian-v5.html |
| 03:08.36 | t101__ | default-jre? |
| 03:09.05 | abrotman | t101__: if you have non-free setup, you should have the sun jre availalbe |
| 03:10.07 | abrotman | judd: info sun-java6-jre --release lenny |
| 03:10.08 | judd | abrotman: sun-java6-jre (non-free/libs): is optional; Version: 6-12-1; Size: 6231.4k; Installed: 14264k -- Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 (architecture independent files) |
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| 03:10.47 | anxiolytic | Let's see if there are any more opinions on this issue.. is there any way to fix this mess? http://pastie.org/403463 |
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| 03:11.30 | abrotman | anxiolytic: it's complaining because you installled libc from somewhere else |
| 03:11.46 | anxiolytic | yeah |
| 03:11.48 | anxiolytic | http://pastie.org/403529 |
| 03:12.02 | anxiolytic | some folks here were helping me earlier.. still no resolution though |
| 03:12.22 | abrotman | what does /lib/libc6.so.6 return ? |
| 03:13.30 | anxiolytic | abrotman: /lib/libc.so.6: symbolic link to `libc-2.3.6.so' |
| 03:14.17 | abrotman | erm |
| 03:14.27 | t101__ | i don't use non-free |
| 03:14.43 | abrotman | t101__: then you'll have to try one of the 'free' JREs |
| 03:14.54 | t101__ | ok |
| 03:15.12 | abrotman | t101__: maybe look at icedtea |
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| 03:19.01 | anxiolytic | abrotman: any idea? |
| 03:19.49 | abrotman | anxiolytic: how else did you install libc ? |
| 03:20.44 | anxiolytic | abrotman: I don't know what caused the problem. Many users on this box have sudo ALL |
| 03:21.08 | abrotman | anxiolytic: which one would you like to shoot ? |
| 03:21.46 | abrotman | anxiolytic: on a debian libc6.so.6 .. typing `/lib/libc.so.6` should return something |
| 03:22.24 | anxiolytic | http://pastie.org/403534 |
| 03:23.54 | abrotman | anxiolytic: it's telling you to remove the bad one .. now .. i have *no* idea what this will do |
| 03:23.57 | funky | I'm the only one who is having problems with shared-mime-info a gnome ? |
| 03:24.06 | funky | and* |
| 03:24.13 | abrotman | BTS ? |
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| 03:24.53 | anxiolytic | abrotman: any guesses on what it'll do? |
| 03:25.20 | abrotman | anxiolytic: if you run type `/usr/lib/libc.so.6` .. do you get anything ? |
| 03:26.19 | anxiolytic | abrotman: /usr/lib/libc.so.6 is /usr/lib/libc.so.6 |
| 03:26.31 | abrotman | that's all it says ? |
| 03:27.09 | anxiolytic | yes |
| 03:27.49 | abrotman | well .. anything running should have a copy already .. |
| 03:28.30 | abrotman | and take away sudo rights apparently :) |
| 03:28.48 | anxiolytic | That was the first thing I did |
| 03:29.05 | nkuttler | anxiolytic: reinstalling doesn't sound too bad in your case |
| 03:29.16 | nkuttler | probably even faster than cleaning up the mess |
| 03:29.27 | anxiolytic | I wouldn't mind, but this is a web server. I don't have physical access and can't really afford the downtime |
| 03:29.39 | nkuttler | anxiolytic: ah :/ |
| 03:30.19 | anxiolytic | It's fine, I'll transfer everything over to a temp server and format. I guess it's a good excuse to upgrade to debian 5 too |
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| 03:30.26 | abrotman | if you remove /usr/lib/libc.so.6 .. and install the debian one .. things may not work |
| 03:30.54 | anxiolytic | what if I just.. don't do anything? |
| 03:31.25 | anxiolytic | Would there be any problems except not being able to update? |
| 03:31.34 | abrotman | you have to do something |
| 03:31.38 | nkuttler | anxiolytic: do you need any more? |
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| 03:32.07 | anxiolytic | It's a big problem, I'm just wondering if it can hold off for a day or two |
| 03:32.09 | abrotman | you don't know where that libc came from .. so security will be an issue |
| 03:32.12 | anxiolytic | It's my fucking birthday : ) |
| 03:32.20 | abrotman | anxiolytic: go drinkie drink! |
| 03:32.31 | nkuttler | anxiolytic: drunk install |
| 03:32.36 | anxiolytic | haha |
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| 03:32.47 | abrotman | nkuttler: what could go wrong .. oh wait .. a libc in a weird place |
| 03:33.16 | HeXiLeD | is AllowTcpForwarding option allowed in the sshd debian package ? |
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| 03:34.09 | abrotman | HeXiLeD: the man page should tell you |
| 03:35.23 | abrotman | man sshd_config |
| 03:36.06 | HeXiLeD | im reading it |
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| 03:39.01 | funky | what's the proper way to downgrade a package? |
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| 03:41.02 | avu | funky, there isn't one really. downgrading is not officially supported by dpkg. |
| 03:41.06 | avu | although: |
| 03:41.09 | avu | !downgrade |
| 03:41.09 | dpkg | methinks downgrade is not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later, and package maintainer scripts provide ways to upgrade to new config file formats but not ways to downgrade. You can always try to downgrade a package using dpkg -i <olderversion.deb>. Also see <partial downgrade>, or <sdn> |
| 03:41.26 | zionist | debain is fast! (unlike this suse crap) |
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| 03:42.06 | funky | aha, thank you |
| 03:44.20 | DeSian | zionist: suse or openSUSE :) |
| 03:44.28 | zionist | opensuse |
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| 03:47.02 | kr1s | Hi, why: cat /dev/ttySAC1 | grep GPGGA > file generates a empty file (there are matches with GPGGA)? |
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| 03:47.37 | DeSian | zionist: squeeze is same with Lenny still :) http://wiki.debian.org/NewInSqueeze |
| 03:47.45 | DeSian | no changes |
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| 03:49.12 | abrotman | not true |
| 03:49.56 | DeSian | abrotman: how? i see nothing. |
| 03:50.09 | abrotman | !inout |
| 03:50.09 | dpkg | To see which packages are going in/out of testing today: http://release.debian.org/migration/accepted.html To see why a package is not in testing "/msg dpkg why is <foo> not in testing" or go to http://release.debian.org/migration/ For packages coming into unstable use http://incoming.debian.org/ |
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| 03:51.01 | abrotman | oh sure .. now it shows none |
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| 03:52.44 | DeSian | abrotman: thanx, u r the best ;) |
| 03:53.26 | funky | does anyone know how to query though aptitude the "hold/keep" status packages? |
| 03:54.01 | abrotman | if you read the (very lengthy( aptitude manual, it owuld probably say |
| 03:54.36 | dmoerner | funky, aptitude search ~ahold |
| 03:54.57 | abrotman | or wait for dmoerner to tell you :) |
| 03:55.31 | funky | thank you dmoerner :) |
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| 03:56.18 | funky | dpkg -l still shows them as ii |
| 03:56.19 | dpkg | No packages found matching still shows them as ii |
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| 03:57.26 | abrotman | IIRC .. dpkg and aptitude have a different hold database |
| 03:58.04 | funky | seems so |
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| 03:58.35 | dmoerner | funky, dpkg --get-selections will tell you about its database |
| 03:58.39 | peterm | hi i have a strange problem with a debian machine |
| 03:58.55 | peterm | i can reach virtual machines running on it but not ping the debian server itself |
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| 04:00.13 | pl4yer0ne | has it got a firewall? |
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| 04:00.30 | peterm | pl4yer0ne, no and i could reach it a couple of days ago |
| 04:00.39 | peterm | but now it doesn't even react to pings |
| 04:00.46 | simonrvn | dmoerner: you didn't know that? |
| 04:00.49 | peterm | and ssh/http is also not reachable |
| 04:01.21 | dmoerner | simonrvn, what? |
| 04:01.37 | simonrvn | --get-selections |
| 04:02.28 | dmoerner | simonrvn, yes, i did know that. that's why i told him to try it. i'm a bit confused |
| 04:02.33 | pl4yer0ne | do you have physical access peterm ? |
| 04:02.36 | Macer | debian is awesome |
| 04:02.41 | simonrvn | oh |
| 04:02.42 | peterm | pl4yer0ne yes |
| 04:02.57 | peterm | pl4yer0ne but i don't know what to look for |
| 04:02.57 | Macer | i haven't used it in like.... YEARS :) |
| 04:03.02 | pl4yer0ne | check its logs and see if there is any "wierd shit" going on |
| 04:03.03 | Macer | but wow has it gotten better |
| 04:03.10 | Macer | i am replacing fbsd on my main server with it |
| 04:03.19 | peterm | pl4yer0ne, i suppose dmesg? |
| 04:03.23 | pl4yer0ne | check /var/log/syslog |
| 04:03.27 | pl4yer0ne | dmesg and syslog |
| 04:03.36 | peterm | pl4yer0ne, thats brb |
| 04:03.36 | dmoerner | simonrvn, oh haha i get it. "funky" is the guy's nick, not an expression of surprise :) |
| 04:03.53 | funky | simonrvn: hello o/ |
| 04:03.57 | simonrvn | duh me.. heheh |
| 04:04.01 | simonrvn | hi :) |
| 04:04.04 | funky | :) |
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| 04:05.41 | peterm | pl4yer0ne, everything looks ok, the network interface even has the right ip |
| 04:05.45 | peterm | but route doesn't return |
| 04:06.18 | pl4yer0ne | check top and see if there is any run away processes and your swap isnt all used up |
| 04:06.52 | pl4yer0ne | check netstat and see if the processes are actually listening on the ports |
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| 04:07.39 | Macer | wtf |
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| 04:08.25 | chode | hi |
| 04:09.06 | chode | i installed libdvdcss. hence libdvdcss2 is already the newest version. yet both vlc and xine crash wheni pl |
| 04:09.18 | chode | play a dvd |
| 04:09.25 | chode | and yes i pointed xine to /dev/hdc my dvd player |
| 04:10.03 | peterm | pl4yer0ne, hmm nothing strange |
| 04:10.07 | peterm | sshd listening |
| 04:10.25 | pl4yer0ne | can you connect to it locally? like ssh localhost |
| 04:10.31 | peterm | mom |
| 04:10.53 | peterm | yes without any problems :-/ |
| 04:10.58 | chode | libdvdread3 set to manually installed. |
| 04:11.04 | pl4yer0ne | can you connect out from the box? |
| 04:11.17 | peterm | and as i said i can reach the virutal machines which are listening on the same physical ethernet device |
| 04:11.23 | peterm | with an internal bridge |
| 04:11.30 | peterm | not to the host machine |
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| 04:11.35 | peterm | only to the vms |
| 04:11.38 | pl4yer0ne | yeah so they have their own IP's yes? |
| 04:11.47 | peterm | yes |
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| 04:12.16 | vasanth | i installed debian lenny |
| 04:12.21 | pl4yer0ne | does traceroute do what you expect? |
| 04:12.26 | vasanth | through netinstall |
| 04:12.34 | vasanth | but there is no display |
| 04:12.35 | peterm | nope it does nothing :-( |
| 04:12.38 | peterm | only stars |
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| 04:12.48 | pl4yer0ne | using the name or the IP? |
| 04:12.49 | vasanth | it doesn't starts the X |
| 04:12.58 | peterm | pl4yer0ne, ip |
| 04:13.05 | peterm | if i use dns it does nothing |
| 04:13.06 | chode | how do you play dvds ? |
| 04:13.10 | peterm | it cant resolve the name |
| 04:13.23 | pl4yer0ne | can you arping it? |
| 04:13.31 | peterm | how do i do that? |
| 04:13.42 | peterm | ah cool |
| 04:13.49 | peterm | didn't know that tool |
| 04:13.55 | peterm | mom have to find out mac address |
| 04:14.00 | pl4yer0ne | nah |
| 04:14.06 | pl4yer0ne | the name or ip will work |
| 04:14.09 | peterm | ok |
| 04:14.20 | Macer | hm |
| 04:14.28 | Macer | can someoen help me figure out how to mount a huge efi partition? |
| 04:14.44 | Macer | i need to mount an efi partition that is formattted with ufs on sdb1 |
| 04:14.57 | peterm | pl4yer0ne, nope no output |
| 04:14.59 | vasanth | help me to fix my debian lenny X configuration |
| 04:15.11 | Macer | is there a special way to do do this? something like mount -t efi -o ufs device mountpoing? |
| 04:15.14 | Macer | mountpoint? |
| 04:15.48 | pl4yer0ne | ok peterm try using the MAC if you can find it |
| 04:15.59 | peterm | ok |
| 04:16.16 | pl4yer0ne | but it sounds like it might be a route problem |
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| 04:16.55 | pl4yer0ne | any possibility of network hardware shananigans in between you and it? |
| 04:17.43 | peterm | pl4yer0ne, only a wlan access point and a switch |
| 04:18.17 | Macer | blah |
| 04:18.25 | Macer | i have no idea how to get this ufs mounted :\ |
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| 04:18.44 | peterm | pl4yer0ne, how do i specifiy the mac address to ping? |
| 04:18.58 | peterm | if i use it as destination it says unknown host |
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| 04:19.19 | Macer | ARGH |
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| 04:19.30 | Macer | i don't want to lose what is on my raid |
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| 04:20.18 | pl4yer0ne | peterm, you just stick at the end as normal |
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| 04:20.49 | peterm | pl4yer0ne, it says ,,arping: unknown host 00:e0:18:...'' |
| 04:20.59 | neil_d | Hi, I have installed tftpd, when I get a client to request /var/tftpboot/pxelinux.0 an "Access violation" error, the file does exist on the server, there are no errors in the syslog :( what could be wrong ? |
| 04:22.15 | peterm | neil_d ist the file world readable? |
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| 04:22.57 | peterm | pl4yer0ne, is there a way to reinitalize a bridge without risking the virtual machines to loose connection? |
| 04:23.02 | pl4yer0ne | hmm defo sounds like network settings somewhere |
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| 04:23.39 | pl4yer0ne | not really, by definition it would have to drop the connections |
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| 04:24.16 | peterm | that sucks it's a production system which is up and running i just can't reach the host which kind of sucks :-D |
| 04:24.24 | owen1 | is conky-cli working on debian? |
| 04:24.28 | pl4yer0ne | yeah its pretty wierd |
| 04:24.35 | neil_d | peterm: yes, but I think I might have found something.. the inetd.conf says "tftpdgramudpwaitnobody/usr/sbin/tcpd/usr/sbin/in.tftpd /srv/tftp" I think this means that the file name is relative to "/srv/tftp" do you know if this is correct ? |
| 04:25.11 | peterm | neil_d, do you request /var/tftpboot/pxelinux.0 via ftp? |
| 04:25.12 | chode | how do you play dvds? |
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| 04:25.28 | chode | xine crashes. and yes i have libdvdread3 libdvdcss2 |
| 04:25.38 | chode | and xine points to /dev/hdc |
| 04:26.18 | neil_d | peterm: using tftp I asked it to 'get /var/ttfpboot/pxelinux.0' |
| 04:26.41 | peterm | neil_d, yes then it's relative to the server home directory |
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| 04:28.14 | peterm | pl4yer0ne, i restarted networking and no it works again |
| 04:28.47 | pl4yer0ne | bonus! |
| 04:29.03 | pl4yer0ne | stupid networking being so bloody temermental! |
| 04:29.11 | peterm | oehm wtf |
| 04:29.13 | pl4yer0ne | woah nice spelling |
| 04:29.19 | peterm | ssh rsa key differs o_O |
| 04:29.33 | pl4yer0ne | h4x!!!1 |
| 04:29.44 | peterm | jop ^^ |
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| 04:30.53 | neil_d | peterm: got something, a menu showed up on the client :) |
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| 04:31.42 | badcrc | is anyone using the intel wifi link 5100 with wpa? |
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| 04:33.04 | chode | i have an integrated video card. what package provides the drivers? |
| 04:33.04 | Macer | damnit |
| 04:33.18 | badcrc | chode: what chipset? |
| 04:33.18 | Macer | can someone tell me how i would mount an efi ufs partition in linux? |
| 04:33.32 | chode | 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 (GMCH) Graphics Memory Controller Hub (rev 03) |
| 04:33.35 | chode | 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 (CGC) Chipset Graphics Controller (rev 03) |
| 04:33.59 | Macer | i really don't want to lose the data on it and i have tried mount -t ufs -o ufstype=44bsd dev mount |
| 04:34.06 | Macer | this sucks |
| 04:34.17 | Macer | debian is awesome but it doesn't seem to be mounting this raid |
| 04:34.50 | pl4yer0ne | Macer, dont think ufs is supported is it? |
| 04:34.58 | HeXiLeD | what other package do i need to fix this : Starting mouse interface server: gpm failed! |
| 04:35.13 | HeXiLeD | and also to be able to use links -g and mplayer without X |
| 04:35.24 | badcrc | chode: have you tried xserver-xorg-video-intel |
| 04:35.26 | craigevil | !links2 |
| 04:35.26 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, links2 is a text and graphics browser with https and javascript. http://packages.debian.org/links2, or for using in Console as GUI (with mouse and keys support), see /usr/share/doc/links2/README.Debian (so you can use as regular non-root user when running in Console in GUI mode) Ask me about <links2 settings> |
| 04:35.47 | pl4yer0ne | oh my bad it totally is |
| 04:35.58 | Macer | well.. i got ro support |
| 04:36.01 | Macer | it mounted ro |
| 04:36.04 | legalize` | i can scroll my desktop ?? when i do cntr+alt and - the tv says cant support |
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| 04:36.06 | Macer | let me try to unmount it and try again |
| 04:36.07 | chode | badcrc thanx |
| 04:36.08 | neil_d | I copied the archive netboot.tar.gz from http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/... but when I ask the client to boot it says "debian-installer/i386/linux" "invalid or corrupt kernel image" :( |
| 04:37.12 | chode | it is installed. i guess i run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and pink intel correct ? |
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| 04:38.05 | peterm | what the fuck the machine isn't even reachabel from outside the network o_O |
| 04:38.12 | magyar | hi, anyone ha s a clue as to setting up vrtualbox with host interface? |
| 04:38.13 | chode | when i run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg; it only asks about my keyboard. not my video card stuff. |
| 04:38.38 | Macer | ugh that totally sucs |
| 04:38.58 | badcrc | chode: used to work for me. recently it gave me no video options in the dpkg-reconfigure and i had to use Xorg -configure |
| 04:39.05 | badcrc | yeah, what you just said |
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| 04:40.09 | badcrc | Xorg -configure writes out an xorg.conf in your current dir. you'd need to back up your old one. if 2d is all you need you might just get by with the vesa driver |
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| 04:40.50 | Rusty1 | Macer: something out there called ufsutils, dunno |
| 04:41.00 | gaintsura | can I ask why firefox is called 'iceweasel' now on debian and not on anything else? |
| 04:41.04 | Macer | Rusty1: will try it out |
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| 04:42.18 | Macer | no not seeing it |
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| 04:42.52 | pl4yer0ne | gaintsura, because debian doesnt like the terms of using the name firefox/thunderbird/etc |
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| 04:43.21 | Rusty1 | Macer: http://packages.debian.org/ufsutils |
| 04:43.33 | Macer | Rusty1: will let me mount ufs rw? |
| 04:43.34 | Macer | :) |
| 04:43.38 | Macer | i can mount ro |
| 04:43.53 | Rusty1 | Macer: dunno |
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| 04:45.38 | rrrr_wtf | one op! O_o |
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| 04:46.54 | lymeca | I run a Squeeze server and wish to run Opensim on it, which apparently works best with Mono 2.0.1 (which is in sid) as opposed to Mono 1.9.1 in Squeeze |
| 04:47.02 | gaintsura | pl4yer0ne: ??? |
| 04:47.14 | pl4yer0ne | what? |
| 04:47.24 | gaintsura | Kitoko: 'one op' sounds like bad english 'one up' |
| 04:47.45 | gaintsura | pl4yer0ne: gaintsura, because debian doesnt like the terms of using the name firefox/thunderbird/etc <--- that = ??? |
| 04:47.45 | dmoerner | lymeca, just be patient |
| 04:47.54 | lymeca | Since I don't use Mono for anything else, I figured I could just get the sid version and be fine, but it wants to upgrade libc6 as well as libc6-i386 and their -dev packafes |
| 04:48.24 | pl4yer0ne | oh right, basically mozilla said OI! you cant use the name Firefox unless you do it OUR way and stop messing with our logo or else! |
| 04:48.36 | gaintsura | O.o |
| 04:48.36 | lymeca | the libc6 would jump from 2.7 to 2.9, but as I have other things running on this server which I would like not to disrupt, I was wondering if this would be a bad decision to upgrade both libc6 and mono? |
| 04:48.46 | gaintsura | and how was the logo or whatever being messed with? |
| 04:48.50 | pl4yer0ne | and so debian went well you can suck our wangs we will call it something else totally different beetches |
| 04:48.59 | legalize` | can someone help me set a resolution in debian for my lcd tv so that i dont have to scroll my desktop |
| 04:49.07 | funky | !experimental |
| 04:49.08 | dpkg | experimental is the bleeding edge of Debian Development. Packages here have been deemed unfit/DANGEROUS/untrustworthy/etc for release by the maintainer responsible for them. DO NOT INSTALL PACKAGES FROM EXPERIMENTAL WITHOUT KNOWING EXACTLY WHY AND WHAT YOU ARE DOING. #debian does not support experimental. For an actual description, see section 4.6.4.3 of the Developer's Reference, or http://packages.debian.org/experimental/ |
| 04:49.16 | pl4yer0ne | im not sure exactly what the problem was |
| 04:49.28 | gaintsura | hm |
| 04:49.38 | lymeca | funky: Hope that wasn't directed at me because I'm asking about sid. |
| 04:49.38 | pickcoder | pl4yer0ne: licensing |
| 04:49.42 | pickcoder | !ff |
| 04:49.43 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, ff is hexadecimal for 255 |
| 04:49.46 | funky | lymeca: it was for me |
| 04:49.46 | pickcoder | meh |
| 04:50.04 | pickcoder | !iceweasel |
| 04:50.05 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, iceweasel is the name of a DFSG-free fork of Firefox, which replaces Firefox in Debian starting from Etch. It is different from GNU's version of Firefox, which formerly had the same name but is now known as IceCat (http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla/). To learn about the reasons for the fork, ask me about <why iceweasel>. |
| 04:50.08 | pl4yer0ne | pickcoder, no i mean i dont know exactly what mozilla corps problem was |
| 04:50.27 | gaintsura | why iceweasel |
| 04:50.30 | gaintsura | thanks pickcoder |
| 04:50.48 | lymeca | Becuase ice is opposite of fire, and weasels are awesome. |
| 04:50.50 | jpinx | !why iceweasel |
| 04:50.50 | dpkg | Due to Mozilla logos licensing, Mozilla software isn't DFSG-free, so Debian distributes Mozilla software with different logos. One day Mozilla Corporation decided to revoke the agreement to let Debian use Mozilla trademarks, so Debian changed to non-trademarked product names. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation_software_rebranded_in_Debian for more information. Ask me about <dfsg>. |
| 04:50.52 | neil_d | can anyone help in why http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/debian-installer/i386/linux isn't liked by my client |
| 04:50.54 | gewt | ؀ |
| 04:51.03 | funky | I've added the repository from the reference guide, but I still can't see nautilus 2.24 |
| 04:51.10 | funky | (experimental) |
| 04:51.12 | gaintsura | whats DFSG-free? |
| 04:51.22 | jpinx | !dfsg |
| 04:51.23 | dpkg | dfsg is probably the Debian Free Software Guidelines, which can be found at http://www.debian.org/intro/free, or http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines |
| 04:51.32 | gaintsura | so useful.. =) |
| 04:51.38 | lymeca | funky: apt-get install -t experimental nautilus |
| 04:51.44 | gewt | :o |
| 04:51.47 | gewt | shiny. |
| 04:51.53 | funky | lymeca: what about searches ? |
| 04:52.05 | gaintsura | I'm assuming DFSG is more or less saying 100% free and open, no if's ands or buts? |
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| 04:52.23 | jpinx | gaintsura: rtfm |
| 04:52.34 | lymeca | funky: I use aptitide to see multiple package versions are available at a given package's information page. Synaptic can also see multiple package versions. |
| 04:52.34 | gaintsura | =P |
| 04:52.52 | lymeca | Otherwise sometimes I will disable my sid source in sources.list so I can just see installed packages vs. experiemental packages. |
| 04:53.21 | meteor-1500 | hi all - i've just moved a hard drive with a debian load into a different machine, it detects my network card at boot but wehn i go to bring it up it says no such device |
| 04:53.33 | funky | aptitude -t experimental -F "%p %V %v" search nautilus |
| 04:53.40 | meteor-1500 | dmesg shows it found the device and set it as eth0 |
| 04:53.46 | meteor-1500 | but there is no /dev/eth0 |
| 04:53.53 | meteor-1500 | any suggestions? |
| 04:54.09 | gaintsura | small note for the dpkg bot... http://www.debian.org/intro/free, as dictated by the bot does not work, there is a , on the link. that should probably be fixed =) |
| 04:55.06 | lymeca | Can anyone inform me why upgrading libc6 from 2.7 in squeeze to 2.9 in sid would be bad for my server? |
| 04:55.44 | jpinx | gaintsura: works perfectly |
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| 04:56.00 | funky | I think I'll stay away from experimental packages so far |
| 04:56.01 | jpinx | you cut'n'pasted then comma? |
| 04:56.06 | gaintsura | no |
| 04:56.12 | gaintsura | clicked on the link from my irc client |
| 04:56.16 | gaintsura | xchat |
| 04:56.34 | jpinx | gaintsura: I just clicked it here and it works |
| 04:56.45 | jpinx | xchat problem then |
| 04:56.47 | gaintsura | hm, when I clicked it it took the comma with it |
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| 04:57.15 | gaintsura | either way, you should split it =) |
| 04:57.15 | pl4yer0ne | im using xchat and it works fine |
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| 04:58.35 | gaintsura | dunno |
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| 05:03.57 | legalize` | anyone helppp me fix my resolution please, nvidia card |
| 05:04.10 | gewt | uh |
| 05:04.16 | Rusty1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:04.17 | gewt | dpkg-reconfigure xorg-serer ? |
| 05:05.02 | meteor-1500 | Rusty1: auto eth0 - iface eth0 inet dhcp |
| 05:05.08 | meteor-1500 | same as on previous machine |
| 05:05.35 | Macer | wow |
| 05:05.44 | Macer | i can't believe debian can't rw mount ufs |
| 05:05.46 | Macer | wtf ? :) |
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| 05:06.35 | jhujhiti | anyone about who's (rather) familiar with how LVM allocates space on the disk? |
| 05:09.01 | Rusty1 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:09.07 | stillinuse | hi |
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| 05:09.27 | meteor-1500 | Rusty1: nup, i'm wondering if the driver for my card in this kernel is broken |
| 05:09.37 | meteor-1500 | going to try sk98lin instead of skge |
| 05:09.38 | stillinuse | how can i trace/track creation date / time of a folder |
| 05:09.41 | Macer | what pkg is kernel source? |
| 05:09.47 | Macer | like how would i install a new kernel in debian? |
| 05:10.03 | Macer | or can someone direct me to a website that shows me how to do this? |
| 05:10.34 | Rusty1 | meteor-1500: hwinfo if you got it is sometimes helpful |
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| 05:10.35 | scribull | hiya |
| 05:11.21 | scribull | i run a intel card. whats the equivilance to nvidia's glxinfo to intel video cards. to check if it has 3D drawing for gaming. |
| 05:13.20 | stillinuse | baaah |
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| 05:17.02 | legalize` | umm i just ran nvidia-xconfig |
| 05:17.08 | Ace2017_- | does radeonhd have a kernel module? |
| 05:17.09 | legalize` | and cant start gdm now :) |
| 05:17.14 | chihau | scribull: If you have a intel card with glx support you can run glxinfo too |
| 05:17.36 | Ace2017_- | legalize`: look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 05:18.16 | legalize` | um how? |
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| 05:18.53 | Ace2017_- | i guess you have to use nano since you can't get xorg. nano /var/log/Xorg.0.log ctrl+x to exit |
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| 05:20.04 | legalize` | screen "screen0" (0) monitor "monitor0" device "device0" |
| 05:20.07 | legalize` | lol |
| 05:20.14 | legalize` | using xorg.conf |
| 05:20.55 | legalize` | how do i rewrite the xorg.conf with the backup file, luckily it made one before it ran nvidia |
| 05:21.24 | Ace2017_- | sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 05:21.42 | Ace2017_- | then use nvidia config on it |
| 05:22.25 | scribull | chihau: well what package has glxinfo ? |
| 05:22.29 | scribull | glxutils |
| 05:22.38 | legalize` | now can i start gdm? |
| 05:22.53 | craigevil | scribull: mesa-utils |
| 05:23.08 | scribull | thanx |
| 05:23.10 | Ace2017_- | legalize`: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart or start or stop |
| 05:23.21 | legalize` | weird said its already running |
| 05:23.35 | legalize` | nm |
| 05:23.51 | legalize` | it keeps looping b ack into prompt and says failed to start |
| 05:23.58 | legalize` | i need to step away for a few |
| 05:23.59 | Ace2017_- | what does the log say? |
| 05:24.18 | scribull | Error: unable to open display |
| 05:24.31 | legalize` | failed to load module "type1" moddule "nvidia" no drivers available |
| 05:24.51 | Ace2017_- | legalize`: how did you install the nvidia drivers? and what graphics card do you have? |
| 05:24.51 | legalize` | and no screens found |
| 05:25.06 | legalize` | i didnt install them i think, i just got nvidiaxserv |
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| 05:25.25 | legalize` | Ace2017_-: sorry but i need to step away |
| 05:25.32 | legalize` | for a few |
| 05:25.38 | legalize` | hope you dont go sleep :P |
| 05:25.45 | Ace2017_- | legalize`: ok, well for whe you get back: sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-kernel-source then sudo m-a a-i nvidia |
| 05:25.55 | chihau | scribull: apt-cache search glxinfo |
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| 05:26.18 | scribull | no i have glxinfo installed |
| 05:26.30 | scribull | and glxinfo returns Error: unable to open display |
| 05:26.38 | scribull | it was in mesa-utils |
| 05:27.00 | chihau | do you have glx support ? |
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| 05:27.20 | scribull | i know the card is an AGP4, how do i get glx support ? |
| 05:27.21 | Ace2017_- | scribull: have you enabled dri? |
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| 05:27.28 | scribull | how do i do that? |
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| 05:27.56 | Ace2017_- | Section "dri" (newline) Mode 0666 (newline) EndSection |
| 05:28.04 | Ace2017_- | so it should be in 3 lines at the end of xorg.conf |
| 05:28.33 | chihau | if your card support glx you can configurate your xorg.conf |
| 05:28.38 | linkmaster03 | i inserted a usb card reader with an sd card in it, and debian lenny does not detect it. the reader works on other computers. it lights up. how can i get it to be recognized? |
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| 05:30.09 | Ace2017_- | linkmaster03: maybe you just have to mount the sd card? |
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| 05:30.28 | scribull | ok i added those 3 lines to xorg.conf. im gonna restart kde |
| 05:30.37 | linkmaster03 | Ace2017_-: what would it be in /dev? |
| 05:31.02 | Ace2017_- | sd? something new like sdc or sdd |
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| 05:35.37 | linkmaster03 | Ace2017_-: some usb generic storage devices in /dev/disk/by-id point to /dev/sda and /dev/sda1 but i don't know what FS to mount it as. I don't see "fat" or "fat32" in the mount manpage. i haven't formatted it since i got it out of the box, so what could it be? |
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| 05:36.44 | scribull | hi |
| 05:37.21 | scribull | glxinfo now has this line --> direct rendering: Yes ; but I still can't get doom3 nor unreal 2004 playing |
| 05:37.43 | scribull | AND xine, mplayer, vlc, crashes when i attempt to play a dvd |
| 05:38.11 | Ace2017_- | linkmaster03: use fdisk -l to get a list of disks and partitions, is the sd card shown there? |
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| 05:39.54 | Ace2017_- | scribull: mplayer crash could be unrelated so try a simple video file and try outputting to -x1: mplayer -vo x11 -zoom filename.avi |
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| 05:40.36 | Ace2017_- | also what graphics card is it? do simple opengl screensavers work? |
| 05:40.40 | legalize` | ace for all those you listed it says no candidate version found no packages will be installed |
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| 05:41.10 | linkmaster03 | Ace2017_-: oo yes /dev/sda1 1 953 1921216 6 FAT16 |
| 05:41.32 | scribull | Ace2017_-: it plays avi files fine. not dvds |
| 05:41.44 | Ace2017_- | scribull: so its unrelated to xorg |
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| 05:41.54 | scribull | xorgs log file has a series of lines saying ---> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual <a hex val> |
| 05:43.00 | Ace2017_- | legalize`: you need to enable the nonfree repository |
| 05:43.26 | legalize` | if i had gui i wouldnt ask how lol |
| 05:43.46 | scribull | and yes i have libdvdcss2 dvdread3 |
| 05:46.05 | scribull | hmmm player is not pointing to a video codec family |
| 05:46.09 | scribull | which one |
| 05:46.12 | Ace2017_- | legalize`: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list then you'll have a line like deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ testing main, add contrib non-free to the end of them to get deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free |
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| 05:46.28 | scribull | i picked win32 |
| 05:46.45 | Ace2017_- | scribull: i think #mplayer can help with the dvd crashing issue |
| 05:47.22 | linkmaster03 | Ace2017_-: so what would i mount it as |
| 05:47.57 | linkmaster03 | '/dev/sda1 1 953 1921216 6 FAT16' |
| 05:48.03 | Ace2017_- | linkmaster03: mkdir /media/disk then mount /dev/sd1 /media/disk it should work fine |
| 05:48.34 | linkmaster03 | oh that did work, no need to specify FS this time |
| 05:48.39 | linkmaster03 | thanks a ton Ace2017_- |
| 05:49.07 | Ace2017_- | linkmaster03: mkdir /media/disk then mount /dev/sda1 /media/disk it should work fine |
| 05:49.13 | Ace2017_- | np |
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| 05:52.16 | legalize` | didnt work |
| 05:52.53 | scribull | it's not just mplayer,its that, xine, and vlc |
| 05:53.38 | Ace2017_- | legalize`: did you run sudo aptitude update after editing the sources.list? |
| 05:54.22 | legalize` | no |
| 05:54.41 | legalize` | ye |
| 05:54.51 | Ace2017_- | legalize`: you need to run that to update the list of available files from time to time, and when you edit the sources.list |
| 05:55.01 | Ace2017_- | legalize`: run it before updating the system |
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| 05:55.37 | legalize` | you know i must ask, when i edited the list it said added 16 lines |
| 05:55.49 | legalize` | but i only added 1 lo |
| 05:56.16 | legalize` | whoa got the nvidia glx :) |
| 05:56.38 | legalize` | Ace2017_-: do you remember all this in your head? |
| 05:57.32 | Ace2017_- | legalize`: its not much to remember |
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| 05:59.03 | legalize` | think i just got something i didnt need lol |
| 05:59.40 | Ace2017_- | legalize`: what is it? |
| 05:59.57 | legalize` | downloading a lot of something |
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| 06:00.29 | legalize` | i ran aptitute nvdia-glx seperate accidently |
| 06:00.56 | legalize` | then ran nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-kernel source |
| 06:01.04 | legalize` | by accident, and then re-ran nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-kernel-source |
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| 06:01.25 | legalize` | said i need a bunch of dependencies |
| 06:01.29 | Ace2017_- | legalize`: what debian version are you using? |
| 06:01.37 | Ace2017_- | legalize`: yes you need to install them |
| 06:01.55 | legalize` | i guess the last one, lenny they call it? |
| 06:02.16 | Ace2017_- | ok |
| 06:02.36 | legalize` | i'm just surprised it didnt have nvidia drivers |
| 06:03.14 | legalize` | these commands arent the same for other distros are they? because i'm learning two right now |
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| 06:03.57 | legalize` | oh hell i can try to see myself, i'm on the other one now lol |
| 06:04.26 | Ace2017_- | no they are different |
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| 06:04.29 | legalize` | hm no chance :P |
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| 06:04.59 | legalize` | ok do the m-a a-i nvidia thing? |
| 06:05.52 | legalize` | that didnt do anything, command not found |
| 06:06.24 | Ace2017_- | legalize`: yes |
| 06:06.36 | Ace2017_- | legalize`: install module-assistant |
| 06:07.12 | scribull | whats wrong with this debian setup. xine, mplayer, vlc, all crash when i play dvds. |
| 06:07.36 | legalize` | lol this aptitute doesnt have super cow powers |
| 06:08.00 | Ace2017_- | legalize`: actually install nvidia-kernel instead |
| 06:08.29 | Ace2017_- | scribull: have you tried using mplayer from debian multimedia? |
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| 06:09.25 | legalize` | it gave me a list of a bunch of nvidia-kernel-etc. |
| 06:09.26 | Ace2017_- | legalize`: what architecture are you using? amd64? i386? |
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| 06:09.41 | Ace2017_- | legalize`: uname -r will show it |
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| 06:09.43 | legalize` | 36 |
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| 06:10.23 | legalize` | well 686 will have to do it? no 386 |
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| 06:11.21 | legalize` | a lot of them btw |
| 06:11.23 | scribull | broken dvd playback |
| 06:11.48 | Ace2017_- | legalize`: what does uname -r show? |
| 06:11.59 | legalize` | 2.6.26-1-686 |
| 06:12.09 | Ace2017_- | legalize`: then install nvidia-kernel-2.6-686 |
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| 06:12.48 | legalize` | done |
| 06:13.15 | legalize` | it got some updated one instead |
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| 06:14.21 | ThoMe | i dont like when i start my system, load the modul "hfcmulti" |
| 06:14.25 | ThoMe | how i can disable set? |
| 06:14.31 | ThoMe | only /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist ? |
| 06:14.42 | ThoMe | i think udev detect my card? |
| 06:15.48 | Ace2017_- | legalize`: so you have 3 lines like this in xorg.conf? http://paste.ubuntu.com/124568/ |
| 06:16.38 | legalize` | as soon as you remind me how to see it lol |
| 06:16.44 | legalize` | (sorry) |
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| 06:17.11 | Sashi | got a problem here :P > bind9 > ns1.domain.com pings fine but how come domain.com resolves to unknown host? |
| 06:17.23 | Ace2017_- | legalize`: you can press up to go to previous commands, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 06:17.31 | scribull | how do you install nvidia drivers to play 3d games and watch dvds |
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| 06:17.37 | Ace2017_- | ThoMe: did you blacklist it and update-initramfs? |
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| 06:17.57 | ThoMe | Ace2017_-: after edit the blacklist "update-initramfs" ? |
| 06:18.27 | Ace2017_- | ThoMe: if its loaded in the initramfs |
| 06:18.41 | scribull | debian fuck'n sucks. |
| 06:19.04 | pl4yer0ne | fuck off and use windows then |
| 06:19.30 | Ace2017_- | scribull: well you install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common and nvidia-kernel then edit xorg.conf and thats it |
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| 06:19.38 | Sashi | anyone? |
| 06:19.53 | legalize` | no i got 1 more for every line you said plus one you told me to add |
| 06:20.02 | scribull | what to edit in xorg.conf |
| 06:20.02 | legalize` | i have (had) lenny main |
| 06:20.27 | Ace2017_- | legalize`: what does it look like? can you paste it to http://paste.ubuntu.com/124568/ |
| 06:20.28 | scribull | E: Package nvidia-glx has no installation candidate |
| 06:20.45 | legalize` | no i cant actually, its on my desktop, i'm on my laptop and i have no gui remember? lol |
| 06:20.45 | Ace2017_- | scribull: you need to enable nonfree repos |
| 06:20.57 | legalize` | on the desktop (debian) no gui i mean |
| 06:21.29 | legalize` | i can type it i guess |
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| 06:23.40 | scribull | Ace2017_-: i put all that in apt.source or i wouldn't have libdvdcss2 or libdvdread3 |
| 06:23.58 | scribull | deb http://debian-multimedia.org/ lenny main |
| 06:23.59 | scribull | deb-src http://debian-multimedia.org/ lenny main |
| 06:24.10 | Ace2017_- | legalize`: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart to get x back, then sort out the srouces.list |
| 06:24.47 | Ace2017_- | scribull: i'm talking about deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free, do you have the non-free? |
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| 06:25.42 | scribull | Ace2017_-: oh no, is that the line im missing ? |
| 06:25.43 | legalize` | http://paste.ubuntu.com/124569/ |
| 06:25.59 | legalize` | last line i added |
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| 06:26.24 | scribull | Ace2017_-: im going to ommit those lines i posted from source.list |
| 06:26.27 | scribull | and add what you have. |
| 06:27.09 | legalize` | holy crap i have video! |
| 06:27.17 | legalize` | in the res that i need lol |
| 06:27.20 | Ace2017_- | legalize`: you see the first line? that should be deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free so add contrib non-free to the first 4 lines, remove the last line |
| 06:27.51 | legalize` | waittt i take it back lol |
| 06:28.05 | dmoerner | does fglrx work with 2.6.28 for anyone here? i keep getting fglrx: Unknown symbol flush_tlb_page |
| 06:28.08 | scribull | im gonna steal those lines too |
| 06:28.12 | Sashi | anyone know why ns1.domain.com works/pings? but domain.com gives me a > unknown host error? |
| 06:28.24 | Ace2017_- | scribull: don't put that line, change it to testing first |
| 06:28.32 | Ace2017_- | dmoerner: you need to patch it |
| 06:28.35 | dmoerner | nevermind, bug already reported. bugs.debian.org/517545 |
| 06:28.48 | legalize` | Ace2017_-: my login screen was nice, and now on the desktop the moust pointer is bigger than my head lol |
| 06:28.50 | pl4yer0ne | Sashi, because it isnt setup as a catch all address |
| 06:28.59 | Sashi | ? |
| 06:29.45 | pl4yer0ne | domain.com isnt a real address for a system so it has to be specially setup to do that |
| 06:29.59 | Sashi | i had it working on etch |
| 06:30.05 | Sashi | i did a clean install of lenny |
| 06:30.11 | Sashi | copied the configs and now it doesnt work anymore |
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| 06:30.33 | pl4yer0ne | well AFAIK what i said is correct. |
| 06:30.58 | nkuttler | Sashi: do you run your own nameserver? |
| 06:31.10 | Sashi | yes and no? |
| 06:31.14 | scribull | Ace2017_-: this is what i got. http://rafb.net/p/HBJg9W77.html |
| 06:31.16 | Ace2017_- | legalize`: is this gnome? |
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| 06:31.18 | Sashi | uhh i use bind9 |
| 06:31.27 | legalize` | yes gnome |
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| 06:32.12 | legalize` | i was expecting kde to tell the truth but got gnome :P |
| 06:32.26 | Sashi | nkuttler: not sure what you're asking |
| 06:32.49 | Ace2017_- | legalize`: this is what it should look like: http://rafb.net/p/uIbWtB26.html |
| 06:32.56 | nkuttler | Sashi: well, copying config files isn't guaranteed to work. format may change. |
| 06:33.05 | nkuttler | Sashi: no idea about bind9 though |
| 06:33.59 | legalize` | yes i have that with dif urls |
| 06:34.21 | legalize` | can i run that nvidia-conf yet or i dont need to now |
| 06:34.41 | legalize` | or based on my desktop i do need to |
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| 06:34.54 | scribull | wtf? now i cant emacs sources.list |
| 06:34.55 | scribull | emacs: `getcwd' failed: No such file or directory |
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| 06:35.12 | Ace2017_- | legalize`: to edit the cursor size: http://www.ccdhb.org.nz/Accessibility/Linux/Keyboard/Mouse/access_Lin_key_mouse_large_gnome.htm |
| 06:35.24 | legalize` | its the whole desktop, not just the coursor |
| 06:35.34 | legalize` | its in like a 400xsomething resolution lol |
| 06:35.39 | Ace2017_- | how about a screenshot |
| 06:35.52 | scribull | nm |
| 06:36.33 | legalize` | ok the log in screen is great. when the desktop loads i cant even click applications, only the home icons |
| 06:36.49 | Ace2017_- | legalize`: did you edit sources.list? |
| 06:37.00 | legalize` | my desktop is messed from that list? |
| 06:37.14 | Ace2017_- | nope, could be the drivers or updates required |
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| 06:38.32 | legalize` | can i upload pic to server from epiphany |
| 06:38.37 | legalize` | i cant get anything else open |
| 06:38.54 | legalize` | to my ftp i mean |
| 06:39.12 | Ace2017_- | legalize`: install scrot |
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| 06:39.41 | legalize` | no you see, i cant open any apps , i only get the browser |
| 06:39.47 | legalize` | and thats when i click applications |
| 06:39.48 | legalize` | lol |
| 06:39.53 | legalize` | because everything is HUGE |
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| 06:40.34 | legalize` | my tv is 28", the "computer" icon is 6" |
| 06:40.42 | node357 | what's the command I would use if I wanted the build deps for wine? |
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| 06:40.53 | scribull | Ace2017_-: i set that line to testing. ran apt-get update; now libdvdcss2 is not under apt-cache search libdvd |
| 06:41.15 | scribull | E: Package libdvdcss2 has no installation candidate |
| 06:41.30 | Ace2017_- | legalize`: gnome probably changed the screen resolution when you logged in |
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| 06:42.49 | scribull | whats wrong with http://rafb.net/p/SoHKBr96.html |
| 06:43.02 | legalize` | yea my monitor shows 640x |
| 06:43.08 | scribull | all 3 of xine, vlc, and mplayer crashes when i play dvds. |
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| 06:44.20 | Ace2017_- | scribull: well you need the lines you removed, you need debian multimedia, try http://rafb.net/p/uIbWtB26.html but add the multimedia lines you had before or pick another mirror from http://debian-multimedia.org/ |
| 06:44.24 | legalize` | and in login screen monitor shows 1360x |
| 06:44.26 | Ace2017_- | legalize`: what resolution should it be using? |
| 06:44.54 | legalize` | i mean if its showing 1360x i guess the lcd supports it |
| 06:45.05 | legalize` | it said mode not supported earlier |
| 06:45.11 | legalize` | for some so its ok i guess |
| 06:45.19 | scribull | oh ok |
| 06:45.31 | legalize` | 1025 i think i need |
| 06:45.34 | legalize` | 1024x* |
| 06:45.53 | legalize` | yes definetely |
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| 06:46.22 | Ace2017_- | legalize`: alt+f2 to get a run box, run gnome-terminal |
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| 06:46.51 | legalize` | ok |
| 06:47.20 | Ace2017_- | sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and make it look like http://rafb.net/p/uIbWtB26.html |
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| 06:48.44 | legalize` | i dont see how that screws my resolution? |
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| 06:49.30 | Ace2017_- | legalize`: fix the sources where the packages come from, then update to the latest versions of everything, then see what screen resolutions are supported, then switch to the one you want |
| 06:49.44 | initq | those sources are for lenny 64? |
| 06:50.14 | Ace2017_- | legalize`: they are for 64bit,32bit and many other architectures |
| 06:50.39 | Ace2017_- | initq: : they are for 64bit,32bit and many other architectures |
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| 06:50.56 | scribull | it still fails |
| 06:50.58 | Ace2017_- | initq: you might also want to add multimeda repos |
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| 06:51.25 | scribull | i have http://rafb.net/p/3kPvbF11.html ran apt-get update, then it said W: Failed to fetch http://debian-multimedia.org/dists/lenny/Release Unable to find expected entry contrib/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?) |
| 06:51.39 | scribull | but libdvdcss2 and libdvdread3 was still under apt-cache search |
| 06:51.45 | scribull | so i reinstalled em. |
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| 06:51.52 | Ace2017_- | scribull: what fails? dvd playback? run mplayer dvd://1 -dvd-device /dev/hdc or whatever the dvd drive is |
| 06:51.53 | scribull | all 3 of xine, vlc, and mplayer crashes when i play dvds. |
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| 06:51.58 | scribull | all 3 of xine, vlc, and mplayer crashes when i play dvds. |
| 06:51.59 | Rudd-O | hey guys |
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| 06:52.02 | Ace2017_- | see what mplayer says |
| 06:52.05 | omid8bimo | hey all |
| 06:52.12 | Ace2017_- | legalize`: did you edit it? |
| 06:52.13 | scribull | yeah dvd playback fails |
| 06:52.18 | Rudd-O | I am planning on submitting to debian lenny the new yum 3.2.21 in replacement to 3.2.12... is this accepted? |
| 06:52.24 | Ace2017_- | scribull: but it should say why |
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| 06:53.21 | Ace2017_- | Rudd-O: you can use yum in debian? also what are the benifits of using yum compared to aptitude, apt-get and dpkg? |
| 06:53.30 | dmoerner | Rudd-O, did you see the thread on debian-devel about it? |
| 06:53.33 | dmoerner | Ace2017_-, it's for bootstrapping |
| 06:53.49 | Rudd-O | yes, I am fixing the issues in 3.2.21 because 3.2.12 is HOPELESSLY broken |
| 06:54.00 | Rudd-O | might as well try and cure cancer |
| 06:54.05 | Ace2017_- | dmoerner: its not the yellowdog package manager for debian? |
| 06:54.22 | dmoerner | Ace2017_-, http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.devel/browse_thread/thread/c268678fee97c3b1?pli=1 |
| 06:54.26 | Rudd-O | yum is for rpm |
| 06:54.34 | Rudd-O | we use it to deploy VPS software on our debian machines |
| 06:55.00 | dmoerner | Rudd-O, in answer to your question, it won't get into main. but you can try backports |
| 06:55.17 | Rudd-O | why won't get into main? it's just a bugfix updaet |
| 06:55.30 | dmoerner | how many lines is the diff |
| 06:55.43 | dmoerner | if you have to look it up, it's too big ;) |
| 06:55.48 | Rudd-O | quite a few lines, but no functionality changes |
| 06:56.06 | legalize` | yes |
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| 06:56.10 | legalize` | edited |
| 06:56.17 | dmoerner | Rudd-O, you can try, but don't get your hopes up |
| 06:56.35 | scribull | Ace2017_-: that line you gave me made my screen go black. and i couldnt even ctrl alt F2 to drop outa kde |
| 06:56.53 | Ace2017_- | scribull: it tried to play the dvd |
| 06:56.54 | scribull | so what ever you said after that, i didnt get |
| 06:57.00 | scribull | tried, but no picture |
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| 06:57.11 | scribull | the whole screen full screened and black |
| 06:57.28 | Ace2017_- | scribull: so it tried to play in fullscreen? |
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| 06:57.33 | scribull | yea |
| 06:57.42 | kdeuser^ | Hi all |
| 06:57.57 | Rudd-O | dmoerner: try? so... I code for hours and hours, and all I can get is "I can try"? |
| 06:58.09 | scribull | can you pleace check this. http://rafb.net/p/dE6HZJ99.html |
| 06:58.14 | kdeuser^ | I just installed debian 5.0.0 |
| 06:58.17 | dmoerner | Rudd-O, i am not a stable release manager |
| 06:58.18 | Rudd-O | I mean, I am this close to finishing adapting the new bugfix yum to debian |
| 06:58.24 | Ace2017_- | legalize`: sudo aptitude update then sudo aptitude safe-upgrade |
| 06:58.25 | Rudd-O | all i have to remove is iniparse |
| 06:58.28 | kdeuser^ | and my sources.list has only my cd media, how to add other repo`s? |
| 06:58.49 | Rudd-O | who is the stable release manager? |
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| 06:59.40 | legalize` | done |
| 06:59.47 | Ace2017_- | kdeuser^: /msg dpkg sources.list will help |
| 07:00.04 | kdeuser^ | thanks AceLan |
| 07:00.12 | kdeuser^ | thanks Ace2017_- |
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| 07:00.42 | Ace2017_- | legalize`: sudo aptitude install x11-xserver-utils |
| 07:01.15 | legalize` | ok i think, i cant see what it did but its done |
| 07:01.16 | dmoerner | Rudd-O, http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/credits. ask on debian-release@l.d.o (i believe) for clarification if it might get in. i don't know the size of the change so i don't want to speak for them too much. |
| 07:01.18 | Ace2017_- | kdeuser^: also this might help http://rafb.net/p/uIbWtB26.html |
| 07:01.43 | legalize` | thats because it didnt do anyhting |
| 07:01.54 | Ace2017_- | legalize`: run xrandr --query to get a list of supported screen resolutions |
| 07:02.38 | legalize` | ok |
| 07:03.00 | Ace2017_- | legalize`: does it list the one you want? |
| 07:03.11 | legalize` | yes |
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| 07:03.35 | legalize` | current is 320-240 lol |
| 07:04.06 | legalize` | whats the second column? refresh rate? |
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| 07:04.43 | Ace2017_- | legalize`: use xrandr --size 1024x768 or whatever size you want to change to it |
| 07:04.50 | Ace2017_- | but only a size shown there |
| 07:05.46 | legalize` | oh my, i finally have a functional desktop lol |
| 07:05.53 | legalize` | i think i owe you 100 bucks |
| 07:06.02 | legalize` | for the last 2 hours you spend with me |
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| 07:06.46 | Ace2017_- | restart and make sure everything works |
| 07:06.56 | legalize` | ahh i was just going to say i'm scared to restart :P |
| 07:08.00 | legalize` | i hope this sets my login screen to the same res? |
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| 07:08.23 | legalize` | or does gnome get loaded AFTER the login |
| 07:08.44 | legalize` | yes apparently after |
| 07:09.04 | legalize` | AND my gnome reset it self |
| 07:09.17 | Ace2017_- | to the small screen resolution? |
| 07:09.26 | Ace2017_- | you'll have to change the gnome screen resolution settingsa |
| 07:10.09 | Ace2017_- | alt+f2 run gnome-control-center then click on screen resolution and pick the one you want, it should save this time |
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| 07:12.03 | kdeuser^ | I have an intel 3945 wireless card |
| 07:12.10 | kdeuser^ | how do I get the driver |
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| 07:14.31 | legalize` | gonome started fine thankfully |
| 07:14.39 | legalize` | the login screen is still at the 1300x res |
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| 07:17.26 | legalize` | Ace2017_-: you're my hero! |
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| 07:17.45 | Ace2017_- | kdeuser^: i tihnk you need to install firmware-iwlwifi |
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| 07:19.10 | Ace2017_- | legalize`: you need to edit xorg.conf for the login screen to also switch |
| 07:19.46 | Ace2017_- | legalize`: pastebin your xorg.conf |
| 07:20.24 | legalize` | why are you SO helpful |
| 07:21.39 | legalize` | i dont remember how :P |
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| 07:22.12 | Ace2017_- | well you can use alt+f2 gksu gedit and open xorg.conf to edit it |
| 07:22.25 | scribull | why do all the dvd players fail ? |
| 07:22.30 | scribull | on dvd play back |
| 07:22.55 | scribull | where is the .sh file that you have to execute as root. http://rafb.net/p/G3Zsg034.html |
| 07:22.58 | Ace2017_- | scribull: is the dvd ok? |
| 07:23.52 | scribull | yeah i works in windows |
| 07:23.56 | scribull | on my dads vista laptop |
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| 07:24.52 | Ace2017_- | scribull: tried ogle? |
| 07:25.04 | stoned | just upgraded a box to lenny |
| 07:25.13 | legalize` | brb, btw cant find xorg,conf |
| 07:25.18 | legalize` | wait |
| 07:25.19 | legalize` | i will |
| 07:25.21 | legalize` | flashback :P |
| 07:25.39 | legalize` | YES |
| 07:25.41 | legalize` | lol |
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| 07:26.46 | scribull | Ace2017_-: i shouldnt have to |
| 07:26.55 | scribull | 3 players fail. something is wrong with debian. |
| 07:26.59 | Ace2017_- | legalize`: sudo aptitude install slocate then sudo updatedb then you can use locate filename to find it so locate xorg.conf will find it |
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| 07:27.35 | Ace2017_- | scribull: tried other dvds? |
| 07:27.49 | scribull | yes |
| 07:27.53 | scribull | it's not hte dvds |
| 07:28.01 | scribull | it's debian |
| 07:28.08 | xavieran | scribull: have you checked out the regionset program... if you are haaving issues with regions then you could use that, |
| 07:28.27 | scribull | what regionset program |
| 07:28.34 | scribull | i set my timezone to easter. |
| 07:28.36 | scribull | eastern |
| 07:28.38 | Out_Cold | what's up with all the torrent versions at http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.0/i386/bt-cd/ |
| 07:28.57 | cahoot | scribull: try aptitude show regionset |
| 07:29.09 | dondelelcaro | Out_Cold: uh... there's only one version? |
| 07:29.14 | legalize` | debian.pastebin.com/mba27df0 |
| 07:29.16 | legalize` | brb |
| 07:29.28 | Out_Cold | i had thought so. but like 30 numbered torrents |
| 07:29.48 | dondelelcaro | Out_Cold: there are 31 cds in the full set, so there are 31 torrents in the full set. |
| 07:29.52 | xavieran | scribull: Your dvd's may be of a different region to your dvd drive, I have a computer running debian that plays all my dvds and one that doesn't because of it's dvd drive has a region setting... so it may not be debians fault, unless you have tried this on other distro/OS |
| 07:30.06 | Out_Cold | so what's on 'the full set'? |
| 07:30.23 | dondelelcaro | !tell Out_Cold -about cd contents |
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| 07:31.11 | Out_Cold | thank you |
| 07:31.35 | scribull | im goign to install that |
| 07:32.03 | kdeuser^ | how do I get my intel 3945 wireless card working ? |
| 07:32.25 | dondelelcaro | kdeuser^: install the firmware-iwlwifi package, and it'll work. |
| 07:32.37 | xavieran | scribull: when you do, check what region your drive is, and then check what region the dvd is (usually listed on the back cover of the holder) |
| 07:33.06 | scribull | i dont have the covers. i keep em in a cd walet |
| 07:33.07 | dondelelcaro | scribull: you also may want to check out if there's a method to turn your dvd drive into a regionless drive |
| 07:33.16 | scribull | ugh... this is too much work |
| 07:33.35 | scribull | can you just tell me what to type to make it work ? |
| 07:33.36 | xavieran | scribull: This is life :) |
| 07:33.39 | dondelelcaro | *shrug*; welcome to the joy of MPAA |
| 07:34.00 | Ace2017_- | legalize`: under Depth 24 add Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" in the order you want, generally you put the one you want first then the rest from highest to lowest |
| 07:34.09 | dondelelcaro | scribull: without knowing what region the dvd is, what type of drive you have, and what region that drive is set to, we can't. |
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| 07:34.45 | kdeuser^ | dondelelcaro: its says no package firmware-iwlwifi |
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| 07:35.03 | cahoot | add an i |
| 07:35.17 | scribull | Enter the new region number for your drive [1..8]: |
| 07:35.21 | scribull | should i just try all 8 |
| 07:35.22 | dondelelcaro | kdeuser^: you need non-free in your sources.list |
| 07:35.27 | scribull | Current Region Code settings: |
| 07:35.31 | scribull | blank. wtf |
| 07:35.38 | dondelelcaro | scribull: no, because most dvd drives only allow a certain number of region switches |
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| 07:35.53 | scribull | user controlled changes resets available: 4 |
| 07:36.02 | scribull | so what should i set the region number to |
| 07:36.10 | xavieran | scribull: is there a dvd in the drive? it needs one in to run proper. |
| 07:36.22 | scribull | yes theres a dvd in the drive |
| 07:36.37 | xavieran | scribull: what region is the dvd your using? |
| 07:36.43 | xavieran | *you're |
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| 07:37.45 | bpun | hi |
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| 07:37.53 | scribull | i dont have the box to my dvds |
| 07:37.56 | Ace2017_- | kdeuser^: http://wiki.gacq.com/index.php/Ipw3945_driver_manual_installation_for_Debian_Etch |
| 07:38.03 | bpun | i'm trying debian arm in qemu and dont know what to pass to init= .. anyone knows? |
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| 07:38.05 | dondelelcaro | scribull: were they sold in the US? |
| 07:38.16 | xavieran | scribull: ;) That may be a part of your issue |
| 07:38.17 | dondelelcaro | bpun: init=/sbin/init |
| 07:38.20 | Ace2017_- | bpun: do you have grub? |
| 07:38.34 | bpun | dondelelcaro, thanks.. gonna try it :) |
| 07:38.51 | dondelelcaro | bpun: other reasonable values include init=/bin/bash |
| 07:38.56 | Ace2017_- | bpun: select the entry, on boot, press e, select the kernel line, press e, and then add it to the end |
| 07:39.11 | dondelelcaro | bpun: though you generally shouldn't have to add it, as that's the default |
| 07:39.12 | scribull | ok one of my dvds says no regional coding |
| 07:39.16 | scribull | i'll see if that plays |
| 07:39.29 | xavieran | scribull: fingers crossed ;) |
| 07:39.34 | steve_baker | hey all, i'm having troubles finding the 2.6.28 debian kernel source for download |
| 07:39.43 | steve_baker | i know its a n00b issue, sorry |
| 07:39.45 | Ace2017_- | steve_baker: kernel.org |
| 07:39.52 | streuner_ | scribull: they are playable then worldwide :-) |
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| 07:40.02 | stoned | Ace2017_-, but that won't contain debian patches |
| 07:40.05 | steve_baker | yeah |
| 07:40.11 | steve_baker | what stoned said :P |
| 07:40.24 | streuner_ | scribull: but follow the advice dondelelcaro gave you before... |
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| 07:41.26 | scribull | how, i dont keep the boxes. |
| 07:41.36 | bpun | dondelelcaro, i'm trying if its possible to install (netinst.iso) debian via qemu.. i havent been successful as i can't seem to extract a compatible kernel from the iso image |
| 07:41.50 | Ace2017_- | linux-source-2.6.28 or maybe apt-get source linux-image-2.6.28-1-amd64? |
| 07:41.54 | xavieran | scribull: The boxes are not just there to look pretty... |
| 07:42.24 | Ace2017_- | bpun: do a chroot install |
| 07:42.27 | steve_baker | i've googled linux-source-2.6.28 and tried to apt-get it |
| 07:42.34 | steve_baker | :( |
| 07:42.51 | Guerin | steve_baker: snapshot.debian.net |
| 07:42.54 | Ace2017_- | tried installing linux-source-2.6.28 or maybe apt-get source linux-image-2.6.28-1-amd64? |
| 07:42.54 | scribull | linux sucks. |
| 07:43.00 | scribull | no wander everyone uses windows |
| 07:43.13 | scribull | even with other distros. i NEVER had to look at the dvd box just to plya the dvds |
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| 07:43.14 | streuner_ | no, thats not a linux problem |
| 07:43.23 | scribull | how did windows figure it out. |
| 07:43.30 | scribull | windows you dont need some box |
| 07:43.40 | scribull | not gentoo, not kubuntu, not fedora |
| 07:43.44 | scribull | why with debian |
| 07:43.54 | Guerin | steve_baker: fuck off back to windows and stop taking up lines of my terminal, then |
| 07:44.00 | bpun | anyone here has done debian on xscale arm ? |
| 07:44.05 | scribull | it's probobly not even a regional probelm |
| 07:44.28 | scribull | linux shit. |
| 07:44.31 | nareshov | libdvdcss? |
| 07:44.31 | steve_baker | Guerin: ? thanks for the link, i was checking it out ? |
| 07:44.36 | Ace2017_- | scribull: mplayer -vo x11 -ao alsa dvd://1 should work |
| 07:44.43 | bpun | scribull, debian-multimedia.org |
| 07:44.50 | Guerin | Ace2017_-: -vo xv |
| 07:45.07 | Ace2017_- | Guerin: failsafe test so i tought x11 would be better |
| 07:45.07 | xavieran | scribull: Blame the RIAA and MPAA |
| 07:45.14 | Guerin | oh, ok |
| 07:45.26 | Guerin | Ace2017_-: fair enough, then |
| 07:45.54 | Ace2017_- | steve_baker: do you have these installed? these are what i have: libdvd0, libdvdcss2, libdvdnav4, libdvdread3 and libdvdread4 |
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| 07:46.19 | nxmehta | i'm trying to use a usb webcam in a virtual machine... how do i make sure debian isn't accessing it so it's available to the vm? |
| 07:46.26 | scribull | Ace2017_-: but in windows you dont have to type a single line of code to play media. |
| 07:46.28 | Guerin | heh, I realised a few days after naming her that my daughter's initials are dcss |
| 07:46.35 | scribull | therefore i refuse to type nerdy shit at the command prompt |
| 07:46.51 | bpun | scribull, http://code.google.com/p/winff/wiki/DebianInstallation (example how to add keyring) , http://www.debian-multimedia.org/debian-m.php |
| 07:47.08 | xavieran | scribull: Linux is not windows. |
| 07:47.08 | Guerin | scribull: off you go, then. No bars on these windows. |
| 07:47.12 | Gun_Smoke | nxmehta, I assume you have the non-ose edition? |
| 07:47.14 | bpun | scribull, dunno if its the defacto for debian multimedia but it seems to work somewhat.. |
| 07:47.16 | Guerin | (only on those ones) |
| 07:47.27 | Blime | :-/ he's just trolling you all |
| 07:47.42 | nxmehta | Gun_Smoke: yes (i'm actually trying both virtualbox and vmware) |
| 07:48.17 | nxmehta | Gun_Smoke: neither works so i'm trying to make sure that debian isn't interfering |
| 07:48.27 | Gun_Smoke | nxmehta, I haven't yet attempted to use usb in one of my vb's yet, but I know the guest addons are required. |
| 07:49.05 | nxmehta | Gun_Smoke: yeah, installed those, no dice yet though |
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| 07:49.55 | Gun_Smoke | nxmehta, and then in the setting have you enabled a usb controller for the target vb? |
| 07:49.58 | bonez451 | so, my wife bought a macbook today.. now I have to help her with it.. is there anything.. tutorial.. that would help me.. figure out how to run a mac versus.. a linux box? |
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| 07:50.23 | xavieran | bonez451: sure :) but have you asked google? |
| 07:50.57 | nxmehta | Gun_Smoke: yeah, i enabled the usb controller, plus the ehci box, and created a filter... guest OS sees something being plugged in but the cam doesn't work |
| 07:51.08 | bpun | anyone knows for the xscale arm should i use old ABI |
| 07:51.08 | bpun | port or the EABI port kernel ? |
| 07:51.22 | bonez451 | I am checking there now too |
| 07:51.30 | Gun_Smoke | nxmehta, well you are now more experienced in it than myself.. |
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| 07:52.16 | nxmehta | Gun_Smoke: :) |
| 07:52.21 | martian67 | D: |
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| 07:55.40 | nkuttler | bonez451: #macosx |
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| 07:56.36 | Gun_Smoke | nxmehta, from the manual.. "USB controller. As soon as the guest system starts using a USB device, it will appear as |
| 07:56.36 | Gun_Smoke | unavailable on the host." |
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| 07:56.56 | Gun_Smoke | pg. 52 of the pdf |
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| 07:58.06 | Gun_Smoke | VBoxManage list usbhost |
| 07:58.15 | nxmehta | Gun_Smoke: i see... so virtualbox is automatically taking care of device contention? |
| 07:58.36 | legalize` | thanks Ace2017_- restarting to see if that worked |
| 07:58.47 | Gun_Smoke | should be, that ^ command should list connected devices nxmehta |
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| 07:59.37 | nxmehta | ok, i'll test it out |
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| 08:00.23 | Gun_Smoke | nxmehta, http://tinyurl.com/bhrmd8 starts on page 52-53 |
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| 08:00.32 | legalize` | Ace2017_-: my tv says its at 1024, but still when i type my login its tinyyy, and so are the menus there |
| 08:01.07 | scribull | this is junk |
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| 08:02.28 | nareshov | lol |
| 08:02.41 | Ace2017_- | ace2017 |
| 08:02.45 | Ace2017_- | woop |
| 08:02.46 | Ace2017_- | s |
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| 08:04.07 | legalize` | i really appreciate your help sir |
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| 08:06.41 | sezoom | morning Debians |
| 08:07.00 | sezoom | question: how may i list all the users who are connected using ssh? |
| 08:07.13 | Gun_Smoke | who |
| 08:07.14 | Gun_Smoke | w |
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| 08:08.10 | Gun_Smoke | sezoom, ^ w is a bit more verbose |
| 08:08.12 | Ace2017_- | legalize`: what line did you add? can i see the full line? did you add the ones supported by the monitor from large to small? |
| 08:10.09 | legalize` | no largest to smallest, just the 3 you said |
| 08:10.28 | legalize` | not* |
| 08:10.55 | legalize` | Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" |
| 08:11.14 | legalize` | thats what i added. but it worked in a way, my tv now shows 1024x on that screen |
| 08:12.41 | Ace2017_- | ok well you know what xrandr --query gave? add those, so i'd have Modes 1680x1050@60 1280x1024@75 ...all the way to ... "640x432@60" but for your monitor the number after @ is the refresh rate |
| 08:13.15 | Ace2017_- | legalize`: you can ignore any resolutions you don't want to use such as 320x240 |
| 08:14.12 | Ace2017_- | legalize`: its fine to leave out the refresh rate |
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| 08:15.54 | vasanth | autoconfiguring X |
| 08:16.01 | vasanth | how to do |
| 08:16.09 | Ace2017_- | vasanth: whats wong? |
| 08:16.22 | vasanth | not able to get X woring |
| 08:16.26 | vasanth | working* |
| 08:16.36 | Ace2017_- | vasanth: what graphics card do you use? |
| 08:16.42 | vasanth | gettting a grambeled screen |
| 08:16.47 | Ace2017_- | ati? |
| 08:16.54 | vasanth | my hardware is intel 845 |
| 08:17.00 | vasanth | mother board and |
| 08:17.09 | vasanth | installed debian lenny |
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| 08:17.24 | Ace2017_- | vasanth: did you try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 08:17.28 | vasanth | yes |
| 08:17.32 | vasanth | but no luck |
| 08:17.40 | Ace2017_- | tried using vesa? |
| 08:17.43 | vasanth | it says Fatal error |
| 08:17.48 | vasanth | how to do that |
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| 08:17.57 | legalize` | thats an onboard |
| 08:18.06 | streuner_ | judd, versions aptitude |
| 08:18.07 | judd | streuner_: aptitude -- etch: 0.4.4-4 lenny: 0.4.11.11-1~lenny1 sid: 0.4.11.11-1 squeeze: 0.4.11.11-1 experimental: 0.5.1-1 |
| 08:18.07 | vasanth | my xorg.conf doesn;t have resolution modes |
| 08:18.18 | nareshov | vasanth: try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh |
| 08:18.19 | nareshov | as root |
| 08:18.23 | vasanth | yes |
| 08:18.24 | Ace2017_- | what error is it? grep EE /var/log//var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 08:18.37 | vasanth | 1 min |
| 08:18.44 | vasanth | i will get u the error log |
| 08:19.30 | scribull | ugh... y outube doesent even work |
| 08:19.38 | scribull | and i installed flash |
| 08:19.40 | legalize` | Ace2017_-: x didnt start, could parse that Modes section |
| 08:19.46 | legalize` | without the "" |
| 08:19.50 | mchelen | scribull, what install method? |
| 08:19.57 | scribull | apt-get |
| 08:20.07 | mchelen | what package? |
| 08:20.14 | scribull | i dont know. what ever the website told me |
| 08:20.20 | mchelen | what website |
| 08:20.28 | scribull | the youtube screen is just a black square. |
| 08:20.34 | vasanth | Ace2017_ : Error log http://pastebin.ca/1350116 |
| 08:20.40 | scribull | what is the package. mabey it's a phony |
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| 08:20.59 | mchelen | scribull, find the package name you installed |
| 08:21.13 | scribull | how can i recall a list of packages i have apt-getted |
| 08:21.14 | xavieran | scribull: You are using pure debian and not ubuntu right? |
| 08:21.19 | scribull | uyes |
| 08:21.21 | scribull | lenny |
| 08:21.38 | scribull | i had to reboot, lost the website |
| 08:21.54 | xavieran | scribull: Check your browsers history? |
| 08:21.58 | Ace2017_- | legalize`: what was the screen resolution given by --query? |
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| 08:22.23 | vasanth | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:23.56 | scribull | i cleared that |
| 08:24.07 | _heiko | hi, I've written a program and want to make a package for debian. what do i have to do? thx |
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| 08:24.58 | scribull | swfdec-mozilla |
| 08:25.00 | scribull | i think |
| 08:25.19 | chaataka | vasanth: there are several bug reports concerning this lockup, i myself used to get it after a few days of continuous usage but not on start |
| 08:25.25 | streuner_ | some stuff doesnt work fine with newer versions of flash... |
| 08:25.31 | Ace2017_- | vasanth: have you tried disabling aiglx? Option "AIGLX" "false" |
| 08:25.31 | vasanth | oh |
| 08:25.36 | vasanth | ok |
| 08:25.55 | vasanth | can't xorg auto detect the monitor to fix this |
| 08:26.13 | vasanth | i heard that xorg 7.3 will auto detect and set the resolution too |
| 08:26.19 | scientes | ahhhhhh |
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| 08:26.25 | scientes | how can i figure out whats locking up X |
| 08:26.34 | facedownH | how can i search for a directory 'foo' in my whole filesystem? |
| 08:26.34 | scientes | it happens every other minute |
| 08:26.43 | legalize` | Ace yes those same as before w/o the "" |
| 08:26.47 | scientes | do i just start killing? |
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| 08:26.56 | Ace2017_- | you need the "" |
| 08:27.06 | Ace2017_- | i haven't tried without them |
| 08:27.06 | chaataka | vasanth: a suggested fix was adding Option "AccelMethod" "XAA" which i did and for now i haven't been locked but i can't be sure |
| 08:27.16 | legalize` | i did :) doesnt load |
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| 08:27.35 | Ace2017_- | what is the screen resolution that you picked in gnome? |
| 08:27.39 | vasanth | where to add this Accelmethod |
| 08:27.43 | legalize` | 1024x |
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| 08:27.56 | chaataka | vasanth: in the device section of xorg.conf |
| 08:27.57 | legalize` | i tried without the "" i mean |
| 08:28.03 | vasanth | ok |
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| 08:28.12 | vasanth | i will add that and get back to u |
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| 08:28.22 | vasanth | i need to restart my machine for that |
| 08:28.36 | chaataka | vasanth: just the X server |
| 08:28.54 | chaataka | vasanth: oh, it's locked :-/ |
| 08:28.59 | vasanth | yes |
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| 08:29.16 | vasanth | i am in another distro now |
| 08:29.20 | vasanth | to have this irc |
| 08:29.22 | scribull | there's alot of phony website out there. what are the recomended docs to get dvd playback working. |
| 08:29.45 | Ace2017_- | legalize`: oh, set it back to Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" and add the new line Virtual 1024x768 below it |
| 08:30.07 | Ace2017_- | legalize`: that should be: Virtual 1024 768 |
| 08:30.22 | sladi | scribull: I'd try xine player with non-free package for dvd. Xine has dvd menu support. |
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| 08:30.43 | scribull | yea i have xine, and it's not working |
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| 08:30.45 | scribull | it's crashing |
| 08:30.55 | sladi | maybe try mplayer |
| 08:31.08 | scribull | how do you change angles in mplayer |
| 08:31.43 | scribull | mplayer is failing woefully with the dvd with angles. |
| 08:31.48 | scribull | the other dvds work actually. |
| 08:31.54 | scribull | but this one isnt |
| 08:32.03 | Ace2017_- | scribull: have you tried ogle? |
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| 08:32.20 | scribull | if 3 players dont work, why would one more. |
| 08:32.27 | scribull | sounds like a debian issue |
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| 08:32.46 | xavieran | scribull: Try ubuntu then :) |
| 08:32.58 | scribull | why should i. |
| 08:33.01 | legalize` | loaded in 1024 like before but menus/button names/what i type - is still tiny |
| 08:33.02 | scribull | ubuntu is irrelevent |
| 08:33.04 | legalize` | its ok i will live |
| 08:33.05 | xavieran | scribull: Seriously, ubuntu is probably better for you if you're new to linux... |
| 08:33.07 | legalize` | :) |
| 08:33.09 | scribull | and comes with too much crap |
| 08:33.13 | scribull | im not new to linux |
| 08:33.24 | scribull | i was running gentoo for the past year when my hard drive crashed. |
| 08:33.31 | scribull | and i was running debien before that |
| 08:33.41 | xavieran | scribull: Well, keep running gentoo : ) I like gentoo... |
| 08:33.47 | scribull | his is abnomally hard to get simply dvd play back |
| 08:33.56 | scribull | im not going through that crap again |
| 08:34.00 | scribull | and gentoo is irelevent |
| 08:34.05 | scribull | i shouldn't have to |
| 08:34.17 | scribull | i want an explanation why dvd playback isnt' working |
| 08:34.21 | scribull | but other can get it working |
| 08:34.33 | scribull | s/other/others |
| 08:34.52 | xavieran | scribull: DVD playback is not working because of the fickleness of someone involved in DVD support development. |
| 08:35.01 | xavieran | scribull: j/k |
| 08:35.07 | scribull | doubt it's the developerss |
| 08:35.19 | cahoot | user error then? |
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| 08:36.08 | Ace2017_- | legalize`: what does xdpyinfo | grep resolution show? |
| 08:36.12 | scribull | ogle isn't under Kmenu. and when i invoke it on the command line, i get sound but no picture |
| 08:36.36 | scribull | no controls either |
| 08:36.49 | scribull | like i said, one more player is not gonna make a difference. |
| 08:36.55 | scribull | what is the root of this problem. |
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| 08:37.21 | xavieran | scribull: Did this same DVD work in gentoo? |
| 08:37.23 | scribull | why didnt apt-get put it under Kmenu like it has with the other programs i installed ? |
| 08:37.28 | scribull | indeed it has |
| 08:37.33 | scribull | and on xine |
| 08:37.39 | scribull | ALL my dvd's are not working on xine |
| 08:37.45 | scribull | just mplayer |
| 08:37.46 | xavieran | scribull: Therefore debian has some issues. |
| 08:37.58 | scribull | debian sucks. |
| 08:38.03 | scribull | it's still in the stone age |
| 08:38.10 | legalize` | scribull: you've been saying that for hours |
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| 08:38.18 | xavieran | scribull: I have some issues with DVD playback with the latest *buntu, therefore maybe something upstream is broken... |
| 08:38.30 | scribull | linux sucks |
| 08:38.41 | xavieran | scribull: ... |
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| 08:39.02 | legalize` | Ace2017_-: that is? |
| 08:39.03 | scientes | get out |
| 08:39.04 | xavieran | scribull: Insults get you nowhere, and they probably aren't making you feel much better either... |
| 08:39.10 | vasanth | Ace2017_ : got the X working |
| 08:39.14 | vasanth | thanks a lot |
| 08:39.25 | scribull | it's just playing dvds. why hasen't linux mastered this. |
| 08:39.29 | scribull | windows is past this |
| 08:39.30 | rexinw | linux works!!! |
| 08:39.35 | scientes | scientes, it works |
| 08:39.38 | legalize` | vasanth: hes been helping me with my x for hours! he's a hella nice person |
| 08:39.51 | scientes | now stop trolling |
| 08:39.58 | vasanth | where do i set the resolution and the and the Hsync |
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| 08:40.32 | vasanth | legalize : ur right |
| 08:40.36 | xavieran | scribull: Well, I have dvd playback working pretty damn well on my linux box, so don't act as if it is crap because you have some issues. |
| 08:40.42 | vasanth | he is really good to help others |
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| 08:41.20 | vasanth | thanks again for Ace2017_ |
| 08:41.21 | scribull | xavieran: how is it that i have issues, and you dont. |
| 08:41.45 | Ace2017_- | scribull: grep 'Display dimensions' /var/log/Xorg.0.log see what that shows, it should show the actual physical screen size in mm, if thats worng then fonts have the worng size |
| 08:41.59 | scribull | (**) intel(0): Display dimensions: (330, 240) mm |
| 08:42.33 | Ace2017_- | woops |
| 08:42.38 | Ace2017_- | legalize`: : grep 'Display dimensions' /var/log/Xorg.0.log see what that shows, it should show the actual physical screen size in mm, if thats worng then fonts have the worng size |
| 08:42.45 | Ace2017_- | scribull: sry wrong person |
| 08:43.15 | xavieran | scribull: Have you checked this out? http://www.debianhelp.org/node/4758 |
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| 08:45.10 | scribull | i need root permission to play dvd's |
| 08:45.23 | scribull | is this a desktop OS ? |
| 08:45.28 | xavieran | scribull: So your dvd will play as root? |
| 08:45.31 | d-b | scribull: no. |
| 08:45.38 | scribull | ok |
| 08:45.44 | legalize` | weird, didnt do anything Ace2017_- |
| 08:45.50 | d-b | scribull: you do not need root permissions. However, you might need libcssdvd something |
| 08:46.05 | scribull | i have thta |
| 08:46.06 | d-b | you need a dvd crypto decoder for most movie / video dvds |
| 08:46.16 | simonrvn | libdvdcss |
| 08:46.16 | scribull | libdvdcss2 libdvdread3 |
| 08:46.18 | scribull | i have those |
| 08:46.18 | tralala | is it possible to define syslog rules for a particular daemon? |
| 08:46.20 | xavieran | scribull: There was some script I had to run to get css working... |
| 08:46.22 | d-b | scribull: so check the permissions on /mount/dvd ? |
| 08:46.39 | Ace2017_- | legalize`: did xdpyinfo | grep resolution show anything? |
| 08:46.40 | xingu | tralala: syslog-ng can do all sorts of neat things |
| 08:46.40 | scribull | xavieran: it's not there |
| 08:47.05 | xavieran | scribull: try this: http://bash.cyberciti.biz/desktop/install-libdvdcss/ |
| 08:47.19 | tralala | thanks xingu, I'll give it a try |
| 08:47.27 | xavieran | d-b dvd playback uses the device node in /dev |
| 08:47.33 | xingu | tralala: nb, you'll basically be looking at filtering based on substring match in all likelyhood |
| 08:47.35 | xavieran | so /mount/dvd won't be useful |
| 08:48.02 | d-b | xavieran: what ? ... you mount /dev/xDx to /mount/blah |
| 08:48.03 | d-b | no ? |
| 08:48.04 | xingu | tralala: the wire protocol for syslog only includes priority/ facility; the reciever just gets a socket, no idea who the sending *process* is really |
| 08:48.09 | tralala | xingu, yeah that's right |
| 08:49.06 | tralala | xingu, it still gets the message though, so substring match could've been done |
| 08:49.07 | legalize` | usage: grep [option]... pattern [file]... |
| 08:49.09 | scribull | xavieran: dont you have to run that script from a particular directory ? |
| 08:49.15 | xavieran | d-b it may be mounted but a dvd player does not care about where it is mounted, it reads from the dev node. |
| 08:49.36 | xingu | tralala: yup; and syslog-ng is the tool for that job; it even does regex... |
| 08:49.42 | d-b | xavieran: ........ um.... that's why you mount the dev node .... |
| 08:49.47 | xavieran | scribull: read the instructions with the script. But I don't think so. |
| 08:49.56 | tralala | xingu, nice. Switching to syslog-ng. |
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| 08:51.49 | Ace2017_- | legalize`: install x11-utils |
| 08:52.31 | scribull | xavieran: there are no instructions in the comments |
| 08:52.47 | scribull | i ran that script. dvd play back still fails miserably |
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| 08:53.09 | legalize` | ok Ace2017_- |
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| 08:54.36 | dboehmer | hi everyone |
| 08:54.45 | dboehmer | how to disable login for root on console? |
| 08:54.54 | Ace2017_- | su |
| 08:55.10 | tralala | dboehmer, in /etc/securetty |
| 08:55.13 | dboehmer | i still want to use su to gain root privileges from user account but simple root login should be permitted like in SSH |
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| 08:55.58 | xingu | heh, that's completely arse-backwards for the site policy I default to. :) |
| 08:56.06 | simonrvn | no kidding |
| 08:57.09 | xingu | I use access.conf to only permit root login on physical console devices and configure sshd to forbit remote root login :) |
| 08:57.15 | Bombadil | exit |
| 08:57.30 | cirzgamanti`` | is it safe to hot unplug a sata harddrive, if i unplug the power first, and of course umount it beforehand? sorry for OT, isn't there a general hardware channel on freenode? |
| 08:57.35 | xingu | s/forbit/forbid/ |
| 08:57.39 | scribull | i cant wait for windows 7 to come out. it's gonna blow this linux junk away. |
| 08:58.11 | Ace2017_- | cirzgamanti``: is it an sata power cable? and is an adapter used? |
| 08:58.12 | dboehmer | cirzgamanti``: have a look at #hardware. SATA hot-plugging is safe in general but it depends on mobo and harddisk if it will fail or work |
| 08:58.30 | cirzgamanti`` | scribull: good for you. |
| 08:58.41 | xavieran | scribull: w/e no need to bash linux because _you_ are having issues with a problem. |
| 08:58.48 | simonrvn | s/scri// |
| 08:58.54 | Ace2017_- | scribull: why not install the beta? |
| 08:59.07 | dboehmer | tralala: i have checked /etc/securetty but didn't find some meaningful config section. its man page is unfortunately not very exhausting |
| 08:59.28 | dboehmer | you can give me a hint what to do there? please keep in mind that i want to use su |
| 08:59.35 | xingu | I'm still chuckling over the concept of cisco retargetting their new nexus switch family to run win7 under the bonnet |
| 08:59.43 | xingu | thanks dude, I haven't laughed so hard in ages |
| 08:59.53 | cirzgamanti | dboehmer: fail, as in the system will have problem, or my data will be corrupted? i could live with the first (as a try), not with the second. |
| 08:59.56 | cahoot | fascinating how a 13 year old can evoke so much response |
| 09:00.17 | cirzgamanti | Ace2017_-: yes, SATA power cable. what adapter do you mean? |
| 09:00.18 | xingu | must be sunday ;) |
| 09:00.25 | simonrvn | earned a search/replace and an /ignore from me |
| 09:00.25 | scribull | xingu: whats wrong with that. windows makes good money. the stuff works... etc. |
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| 09:00.49 | dboehmer | cirzgamanti: i cannot give you any warranty but there is no sensible reason for data corruption. problem might be that your system setup does not support SATA hot-plug and thus will freeze or something |
| 09:00.50 | Ace2017_- | sata hotplugging won't work on molex or molex to sata cables, you need a psu with sata out |
| 09:01.11 | cirzgamanti | hm, strange, for some reason i overlooked #hardware while specifically looking for it in the server list... |
| 09:01.31 | cirzgamanti | dboehmer: that's good news, thanks a lot :) |
| 09:01.32 | simonrvn | innit '##hardware' anyway? |
| 09:01.40 | dboehmer | Ace2017_-: can you explain why that is? this is new to me and i cannot imagine why that is. power supplies should be aware of changing power consumption |
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| 09:01.50 | xavieran | wb legalize` |
| 09:02.08 | legalize` | :) |
| 09:02.45 | legalize` | weird router i have |
| 09:02.57 | legalize` | disconnects my laptops from the internet, but keeps them on the local |
| 09:02.58 | cirzgamanti | why is the channel #troll unavailable? :( |
| 09:03.28 | cirzgamanti | simonrvn: yes, but now i looked again, it's right there in the list where it's supposed to be. |
| 09:03.41 | xingu | dboehmer: sata power connector is designed to supply current to spindown and power the drive electronics off safely - aside from that, it's also make-before-break design; molex just isn't the latter and can't do the former (it's literally missing the necessary power rails) |
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| 09:04.19 | cirzgamanti | also thanks for giving the old type of power connectors a name, didn't know that :) |
| 09:05.02 | dboehmer | xingu: interesting... if it was risky when i connected and disconnected e.g. CD drives using molex connectors? |
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| 09:05.19 | simonrvn | always |
| 09:05.35 | tralala | dboehmer, just remove the tty1-6 lines |
| 09:05.45 | corinth | In order to enable my wireless in Ubuntu on my laptop, I had to install the backports modules package so that the ath5k driver would be enabled. Can I do this in Lenny? |
| 09:06.04 | dboehmer | tralala: so i won't be able to login locally at all? |
| 09:06.22 | tralala | you won't be able to login as root |
| 09:06.30 | corinth | And, what's the difference between DVDs 1-5? |
| 09:06.30 | scribull | apt-get update failed, yet the website told me to add these lines to sources.list http://rafb.net/p/3c5qJG97.html |
| 09:06.31 | xingu | dboehmer: the wikipedia page entry for Serial_ATA goes into a bit more detail; and yes, it's a pretty dumb thing to do (hotplugging connectors not designed for it) |
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| 09:06.33 | tralala | which is what you want if I understand correctly |
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| 09:06.51 | cahoot | corinth: /msg dpkg ath5k |
| 09:07.10 | legalize` | ahh i have to leave the rest of the fun for tomorrow gnight and Ace2017_- again thanksssssssss |
| 09:07.12 | dboehmer | xingu: thx for the compliment |
| 09:07.17 | simonrvn | i've only done that sort of thing when i had no other choice, like rescuing data off a dying drive. |
| 09:07.23 | xingu | right |
| 09:07.31 | scribull | err http://rafb.net/p/D0pw5y52.html |
| 09:07.38 | scribull | apt-get update failed, yet the website told me to add these lines to sources.list http://rafb.net/p/D0pw5y52.html |
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| 09:07.51 | xingu | or needing to work around a bios password lock so that you can reflash a disk firmware or whatever. |
| 09:08.19 | xingu | there's a time and a place for everything, but knowing the why of it is necessary to manage the risk |
| 09:08.30 | simonrvn | even off a regular scsi bus a couple of times.... once i fucked up and hadn't made the drive disappear from the bus.... froze the box solid, of course. |
| 09:08.38 | corinth | What's the difference between DVD-1, 2, 3, 4, and 5? Which should I download? |
| 09:08.43 | simonrvn | yeh, stuff like that. |
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| 09:09.03 | simonrvn | corinth: all the dvds are the sum of the dist |
| 09:09.07 | tralala | corinth, everything. You need to download dvd-1 |
| 09:09.20 | xingu | simonrvn: on some designs hotplugging one drive will introduce enough brown across the entire psu that everything sucking at that rail will also barf |
| 09:09.31 | xingu | simonrvn: you don't want to know how and where I found that out. ;) |
| 09:09.32 | corinth | Thanks y'all. |
| 09:09.40 | simonrvn | hehe |
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| 09:10.02 | simonrvn | i can probably guess ;). |
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| 09:11.37 | xingu | it was a case of balancing the many against the few; nonresilient proxy design, isp distribution layer, at porn-o-clock in the morning; drive failure verses 30min+ restart time, dangerous dan here chose to have a crack at keeping the box online |
| 09:11.57 | xingu | dangerous dan critically failed. |
| 09:12.06 | simonrvn | i figured it was something like that. |
| 09:12.35 | simonrvn | trying to keep a box online, but only succeeded in taking it out instantly ;) . |
| 09:12.45 | xingu | that's about the long and short of it |
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| 09:13.36 | mrlukasz | hallo |
| 09:13.39 | mrlukasz | jest to kto z poski |
| 09:13.41 | mrlukasz | :P |
| 09:14.09 | simonrvn | !pl |
| 09:14.09 | dpkg | polska -> #debian.pl (on irc.freenode.net). Also, pl is a common extension for perl scripts and is sometimes used as an abbreviation for "packet loss". |
| 09:14.40 | scribull | are linux developers familiar with HCI ? |
| 09:14.49 | xingu | simonrvn: speaking of sata failure modes I was reading about an interesting thing the other day; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-Limited_Error_Recovery - not new, just shows how far off the pace I'm getting these days I s'pose. |
| 09:15.08 | Ace2017_- | hydrochloric acid? |
| 09:15.26 | scribull | it's a field of research. |
| 09:15.31 | Ace2017_- | oh |
| 09:15.36 | scribull | Human Computer Interaction |
| 09:16.05 | scribull | im going to bed |
| 09:16.07 | scribull | waste of a day |
| 09:17.10 | xingu | simonrvn: I gather CCTL is what's made it through T13 |
| 09:17.20 | simonrvn | mm |
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| 09:22.06 | StarkD | I just created a WinXP VM in virtualbox and using default NAT I can't access Internet. Does the NAT option require someting of the host? |
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| 09:22.47 | xingu | StarkD: IP forwarding at a guess |
| 09:23.37 | StarkD | xingu: sounds logical. any idea how to configure that? I've tried bridging for a couple of days without success |
| 09:23.59 | simonrvn | overkill |
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| 09:24.27 | StarkD | simonrvn: what's the easiest solution? |
| 09:24.29 | xingu | StarkD: /etc/sysctl.conf |
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| 09:25.20 | simonrvn | what he said |
| 09:26.53 | StarkD | xingu simonrvn: ok thanks I'll look into it |
| 09:27.19 | _heiko | I'm looking for a debian developer to make a debian package of a program I've written. i have an ubuntu package and a windows installer atm thx. |
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| 09:32.35 | d-b | hi there i'm having some gdm resolution problems... how do i run xrandr from the console to do a --auto on the tty7 where gdm is ... |
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| 09:33.19 | d-b | (i'm getting a flickering black screen...) -> ati driver (9600xt card) |
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| 09:35.51 | d-b | this problem only started on upgrade to lenny... |
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| 09:43.56 | tralala | d-b, DISPLAY=:0 xrandr |
| 09:44.23 | d-b | cool |
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| 09:45.41 | sladi | Hi! How can I see that special Spanish n-character in LFM in the author's name? Now it's just a question mark. |
| 09:46.25 | sladi | LFM is a CLI file manager. I tried to install xfonts-transcoded and xfonts-unifont. |
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| 09:47.20 | tralala | sladi, does it have utf-8 support? It sounds like it doesn't. |
| 09:47.55 | StarkD | xingu simonrvn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBoxNetworking <-- do you think this how-to would work in debian as well? |
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| 09:49.07 | celeritas | StarkD: I suppose it would, but I'd probably go ahead and use bridged if you can |
| 09:49.30 | sladi | tralala: I'm not sure, I hoped it would since it is still maintained. :) Thanks, I found a bug report about it. #261630 |
| 09:49.56 | StarkD | celeritas: tried that without success. I just need Internet access for the VM |
| 09:50.06 | lxsameer | how can i build a simple debian with compiling debian installer ? |
| 09:50.16 | celeritas | StarkD: well, builtin nat should work for that. I haven't had any trouble with that |
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| 09:50.35 | Jemt | lxsameer: You want to compile the installer ? |
| 09:50.42 | StarkD | celeritas: ok it doesn't work for me out-of-the-box |
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| 09:51.14 | qwobo | just installed latest lenny stable |
| 09:51.22 | StarkD | I have |
| 09:51.26 | qwobo | and after reboot my network connection stopped working |
| 09:51.36 | qwobo | I've put the install cd in my cd drive and booted in rescue mode |
| 09:52.02 | qwobo | and after beeing asked the same networking settings now my network connection works but ONLY IN RESCUE MODE |
| 09:52.02 | lxsameer | Jemt: yeah , i have read all the documents about simple-CDD and CDD , also debian installer insternal , but i can't understand that how does some script like simple cdd or live helper use debian installer |
| 09:52.08 | tralala | lxsameer, build a simple debian? What do you mean? |
| 09:52.12 | qwobo | how can I fix it to work in the usual mode also ? |
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| 09:52.38 | qwobo | my debian network connection works only in rescue mode |
| 09:52.41 | qwobo | why and how do I fix it ? |
| 09:52.55 | Jemt | qwobo: Stop repeating! |
| 09:53.03 | lxsameer | tralala: i base system , it is just a debian system important thing is debian installer |
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| 09:53.42 | StarkD | celeritas: don't I need to enable forwarding or something? |
| 09:53.46 | tralala | lxsameer, the debian installer will install a base system for you. |
| 09:54.23 | celeritas | StarkD: well, might need to upgrade VirtualBox. Last time I used the latest one from Sun it worked out of the box |
| 09:54.40 | lxsameer | tralala: i know it i want to know how can use DI for my debian based distro |
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| 09:55.08 | qwobo | my debian network connection works only in rescue mode |
| 09:55.09 | qwobo | why and how do I fix it ? |
| 09:55.22 | qwobo | Jemt: I know that |
| 09:55.22 | tralala | qwobo, paste your boot log on a pastebin |
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| 09:56.00 | Jemt | qwobo: Then stop it you moron |
| 09:56.26 | simonrvn | oh ffs, getting the snort rules is for-pay now? and figures the "community" rules are 2 years old.... fucking corporate bullshit. |
| 09:56.48 | simonrvn | sorry, that should've gone to -offtopic ... |
| 09:56.50 | glenker | when is .profile sourced? |
| 09:57.12 | sezoom | Geeks, how may i connect ssh to a remote host to a certain directory instead of home directory |
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| 09:57.34 | qwobo | Jemt: F U |
| 09:57.41 | tralala | sezoom, you man not |
| 09:57.44 | tralala | may* |
| 09:57.58 | lxsameer | is there any channel for debian developers in this server or others? |
| 09:57.59 | tralala | sezoom, what are you trying to do? |
| 09:58.17 | tralala | !devel |
| 09:58.26 | sezoom | ssh user@ip:~/Desktop |
| 09:58.29 | GhostlyDeath | If I told you that |
| 09:58.35 | GhostlyDeath | I would have to kill you |
| 09:58.48 | simonrvn | glenker: login shell |
| 09:58.55 | tralala | sezoom, why? What's the purpose of it? |
| 09:58.57 | qwobo | GhostlyDeath: <--- this is a moron , Jemt learn from him |
| 09:59.00 | simonrvn | man bash; sheesh |
| 09:59.12 | simonrvn | !ops qwobo |
| 09:59.12 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: simonrvn complains about: qwobo |
| 09:59.26 | GhostlyDeath | qwobo: Don't drag me into your problems |
| 09:59.43 | GhostlyDeath | You lost my support card |
| 09:59.51 | tralala | qwobo, you seem to be more interested in trolling the channel than in pasting your boot log. |
| 10:00.21 | sezoom | tralala: well i'm writting a script that watch this directory remotly |
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| 10:00.37 | tralala | sezoom, elaborate some more |
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| 10:01.15 | GhostlyDeath | sezoom: Maybe NFS or sshfs would work better for you |
| 10:01.27 | GhostlyDeath | You can mount the directory and treat it like normal files |
| 10:02.06 | sezoom | it seems cool, ii'' try it |
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| 10:20.11 | valdyn | Laeborg: hw:x,y |
| 10:20.36 | valdyn | Laeborg: where you can get the x and y value at /proc/asound/devices |
| 10:20.36 | Laeborg | how can i find what x and y is? |
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| 10:21.09 | Laeborg | sudo: /proc/asound/devices: command not found |
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| 10:21.17 | valdyn | Laeborg: thats a text file |
| 10:21.19 | valdyn | Laeborg: read it |
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| 10:22.06 | valdyn | Laeborg: "88: [ 2- 0]: digital audio capture" gives a capture device like a micro or whatever at hw:2,0 |
| 10:22.16 | Laeborg | http://pastebin.com/m21946a5f |
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| 10:29.28 | StarkD | ok, I'm giving up on virtualbox. why isn't vmware-player in the stable repository. I thought it was GPLed? |
| 10:30.15 | valdyn | StarkD: if it was gpl then it was gpled only just recently |
| 10:30.25 | valdyn | StarkD: which means to late for stable |
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| 10:30.54 | valdyn | StarkD: then on top of that you need a volunteer to package something limited as that too |
| 10:31.14 | StarkD | valdyn: ok, just a wish I guess. anyone know of a guide for vmware on debian lenny? |
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| 10:35.34 | _heiko | I'm looking for a debian developer to make a package for a program i've written (www.mudlet.org). i currently have a package for ubuntu and a windows installer. plz message me thx. |
| 10:35.47 | lxsameer_ | is there any channel for debian developers around |
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| 10:38.50 | valdyn | !wnpp |
| 10:38.50 | dpkg | For information on packages which are not in Debian but you think should be, check the Work-Needing and Prospective Packages list at http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp Also use the script wnpp-alert (from the devscripts package) to see what packages you are using that are in need of help. |
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| 10:47.40 | rexinw | noxville@virtue:/media/cdrom/LinuxDrivers/Lan$ ifconfig |
| 10:47.40 | rexinw | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:47.53 | rexinw | have anybody come across this.. |
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| 10:50.45 | valdyn | rexinw: whats your actual problem? |
| 10:51.40 | kantor | hi |
| 10:51.41 | kantor | hi, in which header are defined the network related limits, like maximum hostname and such things (fo the C language) |
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| 10:51.59 | rexinw | is is not my issue but one of the guys in the networking irc. |
| 10:52.09 | rexinw | unable to bridge networks.. |
| 10:52.29 | rexinw | possible due to network driver issue |
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| 10:53.08 | valdyn | rexinw: so tell him to ask for support himself |
| 10:54.22 | valdyn | rexinw: i dont know if 0xdead can be a valid base address, or if this is the driver writes way of telling you that its not working, but that should be in the source |
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| 10:55.57 | rexinw | what do you mean by telling " that should be in the source"? |
| 10:56.10 | valdyn | rexinw: the meaning of 0xdead |
| 10:56.20 | soulchild | Hi all,... there was a command to get all necassary librarys of a programm... what was that ? |
| 10:56.24 | valdyn | rexinw: appearantly it is that its operating in poll mode |
| 10:57.04 | EmleyMoor | soulchild: For building from source? aptitude build-dep packagename |
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| 10:57.27 | EmleyMoor | (IIRC) |
| 10:57.32 | soulchild | EmleyMoor: NO,... not building from source |
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| 10:57.43 | soulchild | EmleyMoor: I think i foudn it ,.. it is ldd |
| 10:57.49 | valdyn | rexinw: i see plenty 0xdead or 0xdeadbeef to indicate that the address isnt actually being used |
| 10:58.14 | valdyn | rexinw: is this a sis190 nic? |
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| 11:01.33 | bolt | from one of my machines, when I ssh to my server, the ssh banner (not motd, the Banner in sshd_config) has its backslashes escaped (\ is drawn as \\). there is some ascii art in the banner, which gets all screwed up by this. what could be wrong? tested rxvt, xfce4-terminal and xterm. all do this on the current box, on the two others they don't. UTF-8 locale on all, $TERM set correctly. |
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| 11:02.55 | lxsameer_ | where is the cached directory for apt-get by default? |
| 11:03.08 | valdyn | lxsameer_: /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
| 11:03.10 | blindy | if i run LVM on top of raid5, when i add another hdd later, i wont need to rebuild the array?? |
| 11:03.18 | valdyn | blindy: correct |
| 11:03.33 | blindy | do you know why? |
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| 11:03.52 | valdyn | blindy: because i can grow the raid5 with mdadm |
| 11:04.07 | blindy | ah so lvm is only for software raid? |
| 11:04.21 | EmleyMoor | lvm can be grown too |
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| 11:04.27 | valdyn | blindy: lvm has nothing to do with this |
| 11:04.33 | EmleyMoor | lvm is for anything |
| 11:04.37 | valdyn | blindy: its on top of the raid , its a different layer |
| 11:05.08 | EmleyMoor | I have a raid6 with lvm on it |
| 11:05.18 | lxsameer_ | when i do apt-get install somedeb i get a list of package that apt-get want me to do a apt-get autoremove to remove them. what are they? |
| 11:05.35 | EmleyMoor | (I also use lvm on recent single disk builds) |
| 11:05.44 | valdyn | lxsameer_: that is packages that were installed as dependency of a package that you explicitely installed |
| 11:06.00 | valdyn | lxsameer_: that explicitely installed package was either removed by you or no longer has those dependencies |
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| 11:06.53 | blindy | does software raid protect from power outages? or will the whole thing become corrupt |
| 11:07.01 | lxsameer_ | valdyn: so if i removed them nothing will occur |
| 11:07.06 | valdyn | blindy: it can become corrupt |
| 11:07.40 | valdyn | lxsameer_: how could i possibly know if you really meant removing all dependencies too |
| 11:08.05 | valdyn | lxsameer_: you might be actually using a package that was only installed as a dependency |
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| 11:08.34 | valdyn | lxsameer_: install gnome, that installs totem if its not there already, but if you remove the gnome package you might STILL want to play movies with totem |
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| 11:10.07 | valdyn | blindy: power outages can break anything, its not very likely though |
| 11:10.24 | valdyn | blindy: power outages are not like flipping the power switch |
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| 11:11.02 | sleon | hi |
| 11:11.12 | EmleyMoor | RAID is no substitute for backups |
| 11:11.51 | valdyn | now here i havent had a power outage for 5 years at least, so i hardly have empirical data ;) |
| 11:12.06 | lxsameer_ | valdyn: http://pastebin.com/m489b2356 |
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| 11:12.26 | valdyn | lxsameer_: looks like you remove kde |
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| 11:12.29 | blindy | guess ill have to buy a ups, still cheaper than buying hardware raid |
| 11:12.48 | valdyn | lxsameer_: do you want all kde to be gone or not? |
| 11:13.44 | lxsameer_ | valdyn: i am in kde now . of course not |
| 11:13.49 | EmleyMoor | Talking of backups, time to get mine from last night onto removable media |
| 11:13.54 | valdyn | lxsameer_: apt-get install kde |
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| 11:16.11 | blindy | if my memory is correct, XFS cant be resized?? |
| 11:16.19 | valdyn | blindy: wrong |
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| 11:16.27 | valdyn | blindy: it can be grown live |
| 11:16.33 | blindy | what about reduced? |
| 11:16.38 | valdyn | blindy: not |
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| 11:18.32 | lxsameer_ | valdyn: how did you now that the kde is not installed |
| 11:18.32 | lxsameer_ | ? |
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| 11:32.47 | lxsameer_ | is there any way to force germinate to don't download the source? |
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| 11:57.50 | Zvpun | I want to sort the packages that aptitude upgrade shows by download size. How? |
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| 12:07.05 | ma3x | hi |
| 12:07.39 | ma3x | i tried to custom compile 2.6.28-1 but i get the following error: lguest.c:34:18: error: zlib.h: No such file or directory make[1]: *** [lguest] Error 1 any ideas what to install or what's wrong |
| 12:08.42 | lxsameer_ | hi how can i install a os using qemu in my linux box? |
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| 12:08.56 | ma3x | nm found it |
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| 12:10.06 | EmleyMoor | lxsameer_: In general use qemu-img to make a hard disk image and then use the installer .iso to boot the vm... but other ways may exist |
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| 12:11.16 | lxsameer_ | EmleyMoor: then for loading that hard image i should use qemu , am i right? |
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| 12:15.17 | valdyn | lxsameer_: you can use a real harddisk as image for qemu |
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| 12:15.32 | valdyn | lxsameer_: which would create a real bootable system |
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| 12:15.59 | lxsameer_ | valdyn: i do not want that . |
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| 12:18.04 | Federico2 | hi |
| 12:18.43 | myeggo | exists something as ksysguard for gnome? |
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| 12:19.36 | EmleyMoor | lxsameer_: See the QEMU web pages |
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| 12:20.08 | jifix | yes system monitor is in gnome |
| 12:22.10 | jifix | gnome-system monitor myeggo |
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| 12:22.39 | bolt | from one of my machines, when I ssh to my server, the ssh banner (not motd, the Banner in sshd_config) has its backslashes escaped (\ is drawn as \\). there is some ascii art in the banner, which gets all screwed up by this. what could be wrong? tested rxvt, xfce4-terminal and xterm. all do this on the current box, on the two others they don't. UTF-8 locale on all, $TERM set correctly. |
| 12:22.49 | myeggo | thankyou jifix |
| 12:23.01 | myeggo | i was looking for system-monitor but its gnome-system-monitor |
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| 12:23.14 | Brusca | I have a soft-raid configuration for windows vista and just installed Debian on a separate disk. During installation I skipped GRUB installation to avoid messing up my windows installation: the win OS is not recognized. How can I install GRUB and keep both OS'es intact? |
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| 12:24.43 | jifix | myeggo keep hacking man |
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| 12:25.23 | myeggo | lol ^^ |
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| 12:26.35 | jifix | Brusca, use a rescue cd |
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| 12:26.56 | sfm | ciao a tutti |
| 12:26.57 | EmleyMoor | My X crashes if I do Ctrl-Alt-F1 then Alt-F7 - it can be very annoying |
| 12:26.57 | jifix | or with he debian install discs |
| 12:26.58 | sfm | !list |
| 12:26.59 | dpkg | one warez list being sent to sfm |
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| 12:27.30 | jifix | at the begining choose install for experts |
| 12:27.43 | jifix | and go to section install grub |
| 12:27.51 | nareshov | lol |
| 12:27.57 | arezey | !lol |
| 12:27.58 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 12:28.03 | Brusca | jifix: yes I have a live cd to boot, but can I write GRUB to a softraid configuration (my boot disk) without destroying it? |
| 12:28.04 | nareshov | lol |
| 12:28.57 | jifix | i don't know my suggestion is to write it on a floppy |
| 12:29.27 | jifix | Brusca: this is the only safe way |
| 12:29.50 | Brusca | should it be possible to set my debian drive to primary and install grub there? (and add windows later to GRUB) |
| 12:29.59 | jifix | or write the grub on your second disc which don't have raid |
| 12:30.04 | Brusca | yes |
| 12:30.12 | jifix | yes |
| 12:30.13 | Brusca | thanks ill try |
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| 12:38.01 | osFrenchDude | would that be an issue to install xfce given that I'm running kde ? |
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| 12:38.14 | osFrenchDude | with my package manager ..? |
| 12:38.38 | petemc | no |
| 12:38.45 | osFrenchDude | should I expect some conflicts ? |
| 12:39.00 | petemc | your display manager should let you choose which one you want at login |
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| 12:39.54 | osFrenchDude | petemc: I guess I'll be ask if I wanna choose...should I keep kdm ? |
| 12:40.05 | petemc | sure |
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| 12:41.31 | osFrenchDude | petemc: thank you |
| 12:41.31 | frog | hi, which ports should i allow on firewall to make mrtg working? |
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| 12:43.41 | asg2 | frog: 161/udp for simple snmp. |
| 12:44.00 | frog | asg2: thanks |
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| 12:48.20 | grul | !free |
| 12:48.20 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, free is defined in English with many different meanings of which only one refers to cost. easier in french, or 'free beer' = gratuit 'free speech' = libre, or http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.html, or free (procps) tells you how much memory is used/wasted ("Mem:"), and how much is being necessarily used/could be freed ("-/+ buffers/cache:") |
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| 12:51.12 | mebus | Hallo can anybody help me in this channel with ejabberd ? |
| 12:51.21 | mebus | I can start it, but not connect to it ? |
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| 12:51.29 | ma3x | hello what is the package name for dri2proto ? |
| 12:52.16 | nareshov | ma3x: x11proto-dri2 ? |
| 12:52.25 | nareshov | (2nd hit on google ;/) |
| 12:52.50 | wushan | hello how install jvm to debian? |
| 12:53.07 | themill | dpkg: tell wushan about install java |
| 12:53.10 | nareshov | ma3x: http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/Building#head-f566c8a09713eaa70d3ee69a3fd44fbc043f16cc |
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| 12:53.26 | scientes | FCKGW |
| 12:54.18 | ma3x | oh for christ sake, when did lenny become stable |
| 12:54.29 | nareshov | lol |
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| 12:54.39 | ma3x | it's changing like diapers |
| 12:54.43 | wushan | oh i know |
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| 12:55.09 | themill | subscribes ma3x to d-d-a |
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| 12:55.51 | achilles | hello, I use ldap to authenticate my users by pam_ldap, users login and everything is perfect, I just have one problem, uses that belongs to a certain group can't access group shared folders, even 'id' returns the correct group . any help ? |
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| 12:58.31 | jintxo | hi guys, #postfix is kind of slow today, I was hoping for some (brief) comment on the following: |
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| 12:58.40 | jintxo | I have been scanning e-mail through clamsmtpd for a while (communication through a scan:127:0.0.1:12345 type content filter) and have been testing clamav-milter lately in my lab. It seems "cleaner" to me to use a milter for this, because that way I think that stuff doesn't go through the queue twice (and therefore shouldn't get signed by dkim-filter twice). Am I correct in thinking that it is cleaner to do it this way and would yo |
| 12:58.40 | jintxo | u recommend using clamav-milter or continue with clamsmtpd? cheers! |
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| 13:17.21 | toshiba510cdt | i have a booting problem on my ancient Pentium 133 MHz laptop running Lenny. can anyone help me? details are to be found on http://pastebin.ca/1350201 |
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| 13:19.47 | zeno | when deleting stuff with apt im getting fopen: permission denied a bunch of times, what do you think the problem is? |
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| 13:21.43 | azeem | zeno: paste to whole output to a pastebin |
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| 13:22.40 | zeno | azeem: no can do :\ its on my phone |
| 13:22.48 | azeem | what? |
| 13:22.56 | azeem | then transcribe it |
| 13:23.03 | zeno | well i suppose i could start up x and install a browser etc... |
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| 13:23.20 | zeno | ok |
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| 13:26.09 | zeno | everythings normal until Processing triggers for man-db then fopen: Permission denied like 10 times, then Proessing triggers for menu..... and back to normal |
| 13:26.32 | azeem | eh |
| 13:26.39 | azeem | "the whole output" |
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| 13:27.20 | Agiofws | hi is anyone here using kunena ? forum for joomla ? |
| 13:28.07 | mebus | no |
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| 13:33.24 | osFrenchDude | if I install something with aptitude, is it the same than apt-get and if not, do they know about what each one does ? |
| 13:33.53 | azeem | no to the first, yes to the second |
| 13:34.21 | GpoMaL | does someone can help ? i've installed xbmc ( version svn ) with my debian/lenny and when i use the fullscreen mode on my dual screen, my video display ( ati radeon hd 2600xt ) switch in mode 'clone' :/ |
| 13:34.21 | pobega | Okay, I really need to figure out why cron is dumping messages in my inbox (whichever inbox is specified by mutt) |
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| 13:34.37 | avu | just stop worrying and start loving the bom^W^Waptitude :) |
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| 13:34.54 | pobega | First it dumped into /home/pobega/mail/inbox, so I just moved my inbox to /home/pobega/mail/personal, not cron has figured that out and it dumped over 8000 messages in five minutes. |
| 13:34.56 | jussx | j #gentoo |
| 13:35.09 | osFrenchDude | azeem: guess you're talking to me... |
| 13:35.12 | azeem | pobega: fix cron |
| 13:35.13 | avu | pobega, cron doesn't write in some inbox |
| 13:35.15 | azeem | osFrenchDude: yes |
| 13:35.17 | avu | pobega, it sends mail |
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| 13:35.25 | avu | pobega, which ends up wherever your MTA puts it |
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| 13:35.39 | pobega | Yeah, but I have no idea WHERE I specified for it to drop mail in that inbox. |
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| 13:35.49 | avu | pobega, again, it doesn't |
| 13:36.00 | pobega | avu: I didn't say cron, I meant my MTA... |
| 13:36.01 | avu | pobega, it sends mail. by default to the user running the cronjob |
| 13:36.02 | osFrenchDude | azeem: what is the difference if we're not just talking about different soft ? |
| 13:36.13 | Mikaze | Look in /etc/aliases |
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| 13:36.27 | avu | pobega, if you want it to send mail to another address, set MAILTO in your crontab(s) |
| 13:36.33 | azeem | osFrenchDude: they might install different sets of packages, depending on what you ask for |
| 13:36.42 | azeem | the packages themselves are identical, of course |
| 13:36.52 | avu | pobega, and nobody can help you regarding your MTA without even knowing which one you use :) |
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| 13:37.05 | smeea | hello guys. i want to get reiser4 support so i've download 2.6.28 vanilla kernel from kernel.org, patch them with reiser4-patch for 2.6.28 and add module support for reiser4 via make menuconfig. then i compile kernel via make-kpkg and the error appear: http://pastebin.com/f8d9f6e1. what i am doing wrong? |
| 13:37.17 | osFrenchDude | azeem: I've done everything with apt-get, I guess I should stick with it.... |
| 13:37.18 | pobega | avu: I use exim4-light, but I have no idea why it would be dumping mail there. Like I said, I never configured it to do that. |
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| 13:37.40 | azeem | pobega: "by default" |
| 13:37.42 | Mikaze | Use aptitude. It's more intelligent. |
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| 13:38.06 | osFrenchDude | Mikaze: even though I've done everthing with apt-get so far ? |
| 13:38.17 | avu | pobega, can't help you there, never used exim |
| 13:38.18 | azeem | it's fine to stick with apt-get if you like it |
| 13:38.24 | avu | osFrenchDude, yes |
| 13:38.27 | pobega | azeem: by default...what? |
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| 13:38.43 | avu | osFrenchDude, though azeem is right, it's not a crime if you stick with apt-get |
| 13:38.45 | avu | compare: |
| 13:38.47 | pobega | avu: the thing is, even with exim4 turned off it's still delivering the mail locally |
| 13:38.48 | avu | !why aptitude |
| 13:38.48 | dpkg | aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution than other tools, it has far more advanced searching available, and will automatically uninstall unneeded dependencies, read /usr/share/doc/aptitude/README for more info. Aptitude can also remove or purge one package at the same time as installing others all from the command line, making it much easier to recover from broken dependencies. |
| 13:38.51 | avu | !why apt-get |
| 13:38.58 | avu | hm |
| 13:38.59 | azeem | pobega: by default, cron sends mail with the job's output to the person running the cronjob if there was some output resulting from running the command |
| 13:39.00 | avu | !why apt |
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| 13:39.05 | Mikaze | cron sends it's mail reports to root. If there's a pointer to someone else in /etc/aliases, that's where it will go. |
| 13:39.11 | avu | I thought there was a competing factoid for apt-get too :( |
| 13:39.17 | azeem | pobega: so fix/change cron to (i) not run every second and (ii) not run failing commands |
| 13:39.21 | osFrenchDude | ok, ok...I'll try aptitude then... |
| 13:39.37 | myeggo | aptitude > apt-get? |
| 13:39.40 | avu | Mikaze, no, it send's mail to the user running the job, not always root |
| 13:39.42 | azeem | Mikaze: only if the cronjob got run by root, no? |
| 13:39.54 | pobega | azeem: (a) cron shouldn't be running every second, I have it set to run every 15 days; and (b) they aren't failing, just giving me output (I guess I should add a quiet flag, though) |
| 13:40.06 | azeem | pobega: obviously you have it malconfigured |
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| 13:40.10 | azeem | or it wouldn't send 5000 mails |
| 13:40.23 | pobega | azeem: I don't know, my configuration worked for the past twelve months. |
| 13:40.24 | nsadmin | myeggo: apt-get was the first appearance of apt, and was really meant as a test of the libs |
| 13:40.41 | azeem | pobega: how about actually inspecting the mails and/or logfiles? |
| 13:41.10 | pobega | azeem: there is no cron log in /var/log/ |
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| 13:41.23 | azeem | pobega: try daemon.log auth.log, syslog etc. |
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| 13:42.50 | pobega | azeem: all it says is that it's running the commands every minute, on the minute |
| 13:43.18 | nsadmin | cron doesn't do seconds |
| 13:43.29 | azeem | pobega: ok then |
| 13:43.35 | pobega | nsadmin: I never said it does |
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| 13:43.45 | azeem | pobega: fix your config to run when it should run? |
| 13:43.45 | pobega | Why does everyone here assume people asking for help are retarded |
| 13:44.08 | azeem | "dumped over 8000 messages in five minutes." |
| 13:44.15 | nsadmin | pobega: oh, sorry... then I misinterpreted your implication when you said "on the minute" |
| 13:44.18 | pobega | azeem: I *is* fixed; I want it to run every fifteen days, and here it is; "* * 15 * *" |
| 13:44.26 | Mikaze | What do the messages say? |
| 13:44.49 | pobega | Mikaze: I'm running 'archivemail', and it says something like '0 of 3000 messages archived' |
| 13:44.51 | nsadmin | pobega: that means every minute of every hour on the 15th day |
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| 13:45.24 | pobega | nsadmin: weird that it never gave me problems before. I thought you needed to specify */1 for every minute of every hour, etc |
| 13:45.44 | nsadmin | * is the same as */1 |
| 13:45.57 | Mikaze | looks up archivemail |
| 13:46.19 | pobega | Mikaze: it's a cool little cli program to backup maildirs and mboxes; I use it for out of date mailing list stuff |
| 13:46.20 | nsadmin | but what you need to do if you want "once on that day" is pick a time of day for it to run |
| 13:46.36 | nsadmin | I'd avoid 6:30 am localtime :) |
| 13:46.40 | abrotman | IIRC there is a difference in */1 and 0,1,2,3,4....,59 |
| 13:47.35 | ttyS1 | anyone using "open movie editor" on debian lenny? the play button doesn't play the clip and no audio |
| 13:47.35 | Mikaze | wonders if it's notifying you of every email it's archiving. |
| 13:48.09 | pobega | no, it's constantly running the command; they're right, I misinterpreted what * meant in the cron setup. It's pretty stupid that it defaults to 'every minute of every hour' to be honest |
| 13:48.32 | nsadmin | what else should * mean tho? |
| 13:48.42 | pobega | 'the first time possible' |
| 13:48.47 | nsadmin | and what time should be the default? midnite? |
| 13:48.49 | Mikaze | Comment it out until you find the error, I guess. |
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| 13:49.22 | nsadmin | but if that were carried out to its original meaning, then * sould mean "the first file" |
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| 13:49.51 | pobega | nsadmin: what does that have to do with crontimes? |
| 13:50.10 | nsadmin | but * means all files, and * means all possible values |
| 13:50.15 | Mikaze | aptitude reinstall archivemail? |
| 13:50.21 | nsadmin | that would make it consistant |
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| 13:50.42 | azeem | pobega: did all those mails really got sent now, or is it just that you now see the batch of mails sent on the 15th? |
| 13:50.48 | azeem | (or did you change your system clock) |
| 13:51.05 | pobega | nope, they're being sent once a minute. I only just noticed because I was trying to play a game and I was lagging like crazy. |
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| 13:51.30 | pobega | I think I need to configure something like anacron instead of cron, considering I'm on a laptop. |
| 13:51.33 | azeem | pobega: is this machine powered on all the time? Did you change your mail server setup? |
| 13:51.49 | pobega | azeem: nope, it's a laptop. |
| 13:52.00 | azeem | pobega: did you run Debian since the 15th? |
| 13:52.05 | nsadmin | anyway you could try 0 0 15 * * if you want it to do it at midnite |
| 13:52.12 | azeem | pobega: what does "mailq | wc -l" say? |
| 13:52.27 | pobega | azeem: it's actually a different job, I have a seperate one for the first day of the month |
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| 13:52.44 | azeem | pobega: eh ok |
| 13:52.57 | nsadmin | pobega: you should check that entry :) |
| 13:53.01 | azeem | so we established that cron is fully right in running every minutes now? |
| 13:53.02 | pobega | nsadmin: yeah but my computer isn't on at midnite, that's why I thought the default that I suggested would be sane; maybe I'm thinking of anacron though |
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| 13:53.49 | Mikaze | Well, today isn't the 15th. |
| 13:54.01 | azeem | 14:51 < pobega> azeem: it's actually a different job, I have a seperate one for the first day of the month |
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| 13:55.03 | nsadmin | pobega: so let me ask... what is it you want here? cron and at were conceived and built with 24/7 uptime computers, which may have trickled into their design |
| 13:55.22 | azeem | nsadmin: isn't that pretty obvious by now? |
| 13:55.26 | michael_ | i have lost inode->filename connections for all my files on my 1TB disk, how do i get filenames back, xfs_repair did destroy the link, any idea? tried xfs_irecover but it only recovers inode.. i.e. 1.5million files in same dir with name 1-1500000 , not funny |
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| 13:55.35 | azeem | he misparsed the crontab format and is going to fix it now by using anacron |
| 13:55.39 | pobega | shrugs |
| 13:55.50 | nsadmin | azeem: if his machine is on at random times, maybe he doesn't want cron at all |
| 13:55.51 | ma3x | can i add -j2 in the following command to compile kernel? export VER=$(date +'%Y%m%d') NAMEEXT="-$(hostname)-$(dpkg-architecture -qDEB_HOST_ARCH)"; make-kpkg --revision=$VER --append-to-version=$NAMEEXT --rootcmd fakeroot --initrd kernel_image modules_image |
| 13:56.11 | azeem | nsadmin: but? |
| 13:56.21 | pobega | nsadmin: I just want my mail to be archived automatically every few days |
| 13:56.32 | pobega | without needing to worry about the computer being on |
| 13:56.41 | azeem | ma3x: you need to add it to MAKEFLAGS or so I believe |
| 13:56.46 | Mikaze | Something wrong with the cron job assigned to the 1st, not the 15th. |
| 13:56.48 | nsadmin | what if a boot script could check (1) if it's been done "today" and (2) if "today" is 15th |
| 13:57.00 | azeem | nsadmin: like, anacron? |
| 13:57.11 | nsadmin | does anacron do that? |
| 13:57.16 | azeem | I thought it did |
| 13:57.32 | nsadmin | you're probably right |
| 13:57.34 | pobega | I thought anacron did too, but it seems a little weird. There is no per-user anacrontab, from what I can tell. |
| 13:57.45 | abrotman | yes it can |
| 13:57.52 | nareshov | ma3x: export MAKEOPTS="${MAKEOPTS} -j2" |
| 13:57.55 | nareshov | iirc |
| 13:58.14 | azeem | pobega: in any case, I hope you undestand we didn't answer your question about which mailbox cron writes into |
| 13:58.36 | nsadmin | abrotman , so what cron time setting (. . . . .) means "do it sometime convenient on the 15th day" |
| 13:58.37 | nsadmin | ? |
| 13:58.39 | pobega | azeem: right, though I still wonder how cron knows to dump it in whatever mailbox is specified by mutt. Pretty smart. |
| 13:58.47 | azeem | pobega: it *sends mail* |
| 13:58.51 | abrotman | nsadmin: it means do it at that time if the system is running at that time .. |
| 13:58.52 | azeem | it doesn't dump anything |
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| 13:59.13 | pobega | azeem: I have my MTA off though, and the mails are still coming. |
| 13:59.16 | nsadmin | abrotman and if not, don't do it at all? |
| 13:59.25 | azeem | pobega: what do you mean with "off"? |
| 13:59.29 | azeem | local delivery only? |
| 13:59.31 | abrotman | it shuld when the system comes up .. read the anacron docs |
| 13:59.32 | pobega | azeem: /etc/init.d/exim4 stop |
| 13:59.46 | ma3x | nareshov: can you add that to some file for eg. /etc/make.conf |
| 13:59.57 | azeem | pobega: cron runs exim when it sends the mail |
| 14:00.13 | azeem | so exim probably just says "oh, this one goes locally, I'll just deliver it right now" |
| 14:00.22 | nsadmin | so lessee... anacron would have to check for each of its jobs... "have I been skipped because the machine wasn't up?" |
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| 14:00.47 | nareshov | ma3x: are you using gentoo/freebsd? |
| 14:00.56 | ma3x | nareshov: no debian |
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| 14:01.00 | nareshov | ;l |
| 14:01.05 | azeem | nareshov: stop trolling, please |
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| 14:01.12 | nareshov | since when did debian have a make.conf? |
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| 14:01.28 | azeem | he said "e.g. /etc/make.conf" |
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| 14:01.35 | nareshov | o |
| 14:01.39 | ma3x | well it doesnt but that's what im asking can you add the option somewhere, so you wont have to type it every time you 'make' something |
| 14:01.42 | nareshov | not sure, ma3x |
| 14:01.51 | nareshov | .bashrc ? |
| 14:01.54 | GhostlyDeath | When grep searches lines of text, could I tell grep to check if a line ends with a certain string (as in searching for "bar", "barfoo" is invalid but "foobar" is)? |
| 14:02.07 | nsadmin | ma3x: wouldn't you put that kind of thing in the makefile? |
| 14:02.12 | nareshov | GhostlyDeath: xyz$ ? |
| 14:02.12 | Eulex | GhostlyDeath, look up ^ and $ |
| 14:02.26 | Mikaze | alias aliasname='command(s)' |
| 14:02.34 | nsadmin | looks up... nothgin there3! |
| 14:02.40 | nareshov | lol |
| 14:02.48 | Eulex | or just export MAKEOPTS=FOO |
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| 14:02.57 | GhostlyDeath | ah thanks |
| 14:03.08 | GhostlyDeath | I see it's further down on the man page |
| 14:04.42 | nsadmin | GhostlyDeath: that kind of stuff is bordering on the kind of parsing that's beyond grep's scope |
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| 14:06.05 | nsadmin | but -maybe- you could make use of something like ... | grep ... | grep -v ... |
| 14:06.24 | ma3x | azeem: i just added -j2 in the makefile under makeflags and it works! |
| 14:06.50 | osFrenchDude | I recently decided to apt-get upgrade and obviously it went wrong, leaving some unconfigure packages. I decided to try dpkg --configure -a and I get the following error http://debian.pastebin.com/d798a1083 (from line 17...) |
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| 14:09.46 | nareshov | i wonder what 'exit status 16' is ;/ |
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| 14:10.29 | nsadmin | means that main() of the command returned the int 16 |
| 14:11.15 | nsadmin | that int that main() returns is called the exit status of the command... usually 0 means no error |
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| 14:12.32 | nareshov | oh, that exit status |
| 14:12.40 | nareshov | they must be listed in some man page rite? |
| 14:12.43 | nareshov | errorno or something? |
| 14:13.04 | nsadmin | well it could be errno |
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| 14:13.24 | nsadmin | but it's likely dependent on which command make ran |
| 14:13.39 | azeem | that's not errno |
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| 14:13.50 | azeem | nareshov: exit statuses are application dependent |
| 14:13.50 | nsadmin | and you're right, looking at the man page for that command should show what 16 means |
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| 14:14.22 | nareshov | # |
| 14:14.23 | nareshov | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:14.23 | aurax | Hello, I'm trying to set up few outgoing pptp connections and want to be able to bind those connections to a certain interfaces, any idea how to bind them ? |
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| 14:14.45 | nareshov | doesn't that say "/bin/sh post-installation-script" errored out with errno 16? |
| 14:14.51 | nsadmin | well ok, so you'd have to look at the postinst script |
| 14:14.58 | azeem | nareshov: yes |
| 14:15.08 | nareshov | is aptitude installing manpages-posix |
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| 14:15.16 | azeem | nareshov: pastebin the whole output |
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| 14:15.24 | nareshov | http://debian.pastebin.com/d798a1083 |
| 14:15.37 | nsadmin | and so it would be the main() of sh that returned the 16 probably :) |
| 14:15.43 | nareshov | 19:36 < osFrenchDude> I recently decided to apt-get upgrade and obviously it went wrong, leaving some unconfigure packages. I decided to try dpkg --configure -a and I get the following error http://debian.pastebin.com/d798a1083 (from line 17...) |
| 14:15.47 | nareshov | hmm |
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| 14:16.12 | osFrenchDude | are we talking about me ?? |
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| 14:16.29 | nsadmin | no, we're talking about me!! |
| 14:17.36 | osFrenchDude | nsadmin: unfair |
| 14:17.40 | TuxRuleZx | hi all, what is the best software to encrypt files ? |
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| 14:18.02 | avu | !best |
| 14:18.03 | dpkg | Best for what? Please define what you mean by "best". Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play! Anyone for Tennis! |
| 14:18.06 | nsadmin | the best software would have to be really, really good... |
| 14:18.12 | avu | that being said, gpg works well for example |
| 14:18.54 | TuxRuleZx | with best i mean more secure |
| 14:18.57 | osFrenchDude | ,,forum |
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| 14:20.21 | TuxRuleZx | gnupg ? |
| 14:20.22 | nsadmin | TuxRuleZx, oh, NOW you tell us... |
| 14:20.28 | kolpur | i just changed my repos to unstable from lenny and dist-upgrade 'd the system .. |
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| 14:20.45 | nareshov | kolpur: oh, nice. did it go well? |
| 14:21.02 | kolpur | but my problem is that when i'm trying to install rhythmbox .... its giving error saying libmtp is missing |
| 14:21.12 | TuxRuleZx | nsadmin ? |
| 14:21.13 | avu | kolpur, have you checked the BTS? |
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| 14:21.24 | Mox` | hi, when I try to cat /proc/cpuinfo it takes a really long time? i'm controlling the server through ssh and don't have any other access to it... how to fix this? yesterday it wasn't slow :S |
| 14:21.26 | kolpur | what is BTS ? |
| 14:21.32 | azeem | !bts |
| 14:21.32 | kolpur | i use poland mirror .. |
| 14:21.32 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. Useful for unstable and testing: aptitude install apt-listbugs <apt-listchanges> . |
| 14:21.39 | avu | kolpur, you fail |
| 14:21.42 | avu | kolpur, don't use sid |
| 14:21.42 | themill | !btssmite kolpur |
| 14:21.42 | dpkg | beats kolpur around the head repeatedly with http://bugs.debian.org/ and apt-listbugs, along with a chainsaw if kolpur is running Unstable |
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| 14:21.59 | nareshov | Mox`: is the server overloaded? check 'uptime' |
| 14:22.13 | nareshov | avu: is testing fine? |
| 14:22.22 | kolpur | uptime resulted 19:50:32 up 18 min, 3 users, load average: 0.09, 0.14, 0.18 |
| 14:22.55 | avu | nareshov, if you use the BTS and are subscribed to d-d-a, sure |
| 14:22.55 | kolpur | should i'm not supposed to use unstable ??? |
| 14:23.12 | Mox` | nareshov, lol the server just crashed or something :S |
| 14:23.17 | azeem | kolpur: no, use stable |
| 14:23.18 | nareshov | lol Mox` |
| 14:23.41 | kolpur | but the latest packages are only available in unstable only .. |
| 14:23.47 | nareshov | avu: oh. was thinking of going testing. suspend/hibernate isn't working with X on ;/ |
| 14:23.57 | nsadmin | build em or backport em |
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| 14:24.11 | kolpur | when i browsed through the site the package libmtp was present ... |
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| 14:24.47 | kolpur | apt-get install rhythmbox ...resulted this rhythmbox: Depends: libmtp7 but it is not installable |
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| 14:25.09 | abrotman | kolpur: do an apt-get update first |
| 14:25.33 | avu | kolpur, again, if you're going to use sid, learn how to use the BTS. also check the buildds if the package maybe wasn't built for your arch yet |
| 14:26.06 | pobega | Thanks everyone, I finally figured out what I needed to do; fcron is what I need to get this job done, not vanilla cron. |
| 14:26.11 | avu | (at least on non-x86, that's often the problem) |
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| 14:28.29 | sdf2 | i'm having an asus laptop with integrated soundcard, and an usb soundcard, and my problem is that when i use an OSS program like Teamspeak, which plays sound with OSS, it plays my sound to my integrated soundcard instead of my usb soundcard, while programs use alsa play sound to my usb soundcard |
| 14:28.36 | sdf2 | is there a way to fix this? |
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| 14:30.27 | osFrenchDude | any clues guys please .? |
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| 14:33.55 | utabak | hi all, is lenny built with ppp support in the kernel |
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| 14:34.18 | abrotman | probably |
| 14:34.18 | azeem | utabak: grep PPP /boot/config-$(uname -r) |
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| 14:35.20 | utabak | azeem: there are some line related to config_ppp but one line is # Cyclades-PC300 MLPPP support is disabled. |
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| 14:35.33 | azeem | do you have that device? |
| 14:35.52 | utabak | azeem: I am not sure, I think I do not |
| 14:36.01 | bolt | from one of my machines, when I ssh to my server, the ssh banner (not motd, the Banner in sshd_config) has its backslashes escaped (\ is drawn as \\). there is some ascii art in the banner, which gets all screwed up by this. what could be wrong? tested rxvt, xfce4-terminal and xterm. all do this on the current box, on the two others they don't. UTF-8 locale on all, $TERM set correctly. |
| 14:36.09 | azeem | Cyclades stuff is usually server-grade |
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| 14:37.29 | mirak | hi |
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| 14:37.50 | mirak | how can I know the name of the output when I want to use xrandr --addmode ? |
| 14:38.07 | utabak | utabak: on this I am not sure I pasted here : http://paste.debian.net/29501/ |
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| 14:39.45 | abrotman | utabak: PPP is a module |
| 14:40.35 | utabak | azeem: My problem is that I am trying to connect to internet from a student dorm, I am following a guide from the pages of the university which uses rp-pppoe as the client, I can get a message following the guide and ppp0 interface is also furnished with the ip address but there is no connection |
| 14:40.59 | utabak | a connected message |
| 14:41.01 | azeem | utabak: thats PPPOE, not PPP |
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| 14:41.18 | azeem | utabak: did you try "ping www.google.com"? |
| 14:41.42 | ewet | hi, i read something about swap and although i initially decided to stop using it and have 4gb ram instead i am not so sure about this anymore. however one problem remains: how can i improve the nasty memory hole experience with swap - when my system needs 30min to recover from using up all memory and working on swap the whole time? the so called "graceful degradation" |
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| 14:42.10 | utabak | azeem: ok I have some conceptual misunderstanding, I am at a place where I can connect so I can not use that network now. but I can not ping google however i can ping the local dns |
| 14:42.25 | nareshov | ewet: see if this is helpful - http://kerneltrap.org/node/3000 - and if the current kernel you're running supports it |
| 14:42.42 | utabak | azeem: I came here to see what is wrong :S |
| 14:42.55 | azeem | utabak: what is the local dns |
| 14:43.14 | ewet | nareshov: thanks - reading it... |
| 14:43.18 | azeem | utabak: in that case, it helps if you decsribe your problem in details and don't ask question like "is PPP in my kernel" |
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| 14:43.29 | utabak | azeem : 172.20.64.4 |
| 14:43.35 | azeem | and your local ip? |
| 14:43.47 | aurax | Hello, I'm trying to set up few outgoing pptp connections and want to be able to bind those connections to a certain interfaces, any idea how to bind them ? |
| 14:43.50 | azeem | (of the system which doesn'T work, of course) |
| 14:44.07 | xjunior | hi, I installed gnome-core, xserver-xorg and gdm, how to make it start automatically on the boot? |
| 14:44.09 | utabak | azeem: for the moment the place is different than my dorm room, that wont help |
| 14:44.21 | azeem | utabak: then we won't be able to help much either |
| 14:44.32 | azeem | utabak: how did you get the PPP kernel config options then? |
| 14:44.32 | utabak | azeem: yep I can see |
| 14:44.35 | azeem | is this a notebook? |
| 14:44.42 | utabak | azeem: yes |
| 14:44.44 | azeem | I see |
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| 14:45.08 | utabak | azeem: what is the point in this question? |
| 14:45.10 | azeem | xjunior: try installing xorg |
| 14:45.16 | azeem | utabak: which question? |
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| 14:45.34 | utabak | azeem: notebook or desktop difference ? |
| 14:45.54 | azeem | I was just wondering how you were able to report the PPP kernel config, but not the IP of that system |
| 14:46.07 | azeem | until it occured to me that you were probably talking about a notebook you brought along |
| 14:46.33 | utabak | azeem: ok I see it better |
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| 14:46.49 | mirak | how can I know the output name for xrandr --addmode ? |
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| 14:47.53 | Spectre | hey, how can I switch from graphic environment to the terminal? CTRL+ALT+F1 doesn't work |
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| 14:48.18 | utabak | azeem: the point is that I can ping the local dns but I can not go out of the local network, I did some reading about routing my ppp0 interface ip is at the top of the table starting from the bottom line. i am still reading so I am not sure if this can be a problem or not |
| 14:48.20 | WX_0 | Spectre: Try CTRL+ALT+F3 |
| 14:48.25 | asg | Spectre: chvt 1 (from a terminal) |
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| 14:48.53 | Spectre | chvt is? |
| 14:49.05 | Spectre | CTRL + ALT + F3 doesn't work too |
| 14:49.05 | asg | a command to change between virtual terminals |
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| 14:54.44 | xjunior | azeem: it's installed |
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| 15:00.31 | solemnwarning | Hi all |
| 15:00.39 | solemnwarning | Does lenny use KDE3 or KDE4? |
| 15:00.55 | stew | solemnwarning: 3.5 |
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| 15:06.34 | boodie | Is anybody using snort, possibly with postgeresql? |
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| 15:08.33 | bolt | boodie: no. nobody uses snort. noone at all. |
| 15:09.20 | bolt | boodie: seriously, though. you should ask a specific question if you want to get an answer. people will hesitate to answer your previous question, because they have no idea what you're going to ask them once they say they're using the application you're asking about. |
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| 15:10.57 | boodie | bolt: ok, sorry, I am trying to configure snort's database, following the instructions but when I try to run snort, it fails |
| 15:12.23 | bolt | still not specific enough. firstly, ask the channel, not me. i don't deal with snort on a daily basis. secondly, you need to specify what instructions you're following, what you're hoping to achieve by doing so, and exactly what goes wrong, including any helpful error messages you get |
| 15:12.30 | boodie | In particular, it says "psql: FATAL: Ident authentication failed for user "snort" - obviously, it means something only to those using postgresql as the supporting database of snort |
| 15:12.30 | boodie | " |
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| 15:14.32 | bolt | boodie: try googleing "ident authentication failed for user". trying to do something like this, perhaps? http://semweb.weblog.ub.rug.nl/node/61 |
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| 15:33.01 | Mox` | have anyone tried asp.net with apache2? |
| 15:33.21 | DevilChaos | hey folks have a small problem with my keyboard on booting my system after a reinstall and wonder if one of you have any suggestions about changing the usage from ps/2 style to usb at the very begging of the boot process when i am prompted for my luks passwd? |
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| 15:33.54 | GhostlyDeath | DevilChaos: that would be BIOS related |
| 15:34.08 | DevilChaos | its after grub though |
| 15:34.13 | DevilChaos | ? |
| 15:34.21 | GhostlyDeath | if you mean Booting when you turn the computer on |
| 15:34.28 | DevilChaos | no |
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| 15:34.41 | DevilChaos | as it allows me to press enter for grub |
| 15:34.42 | speedhawk | hello |
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| 15:34.48 | nathanhi | hey |
| 15:34.53 | livecd | hey |
| 15:34.55 | GhostlyDeath | DevilChaos: is the USB keyboard plugged in? |
| 15:35.03 | livecd | you know archlinux is kewl |
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| 15:35.12 | DevilChaos | its a strange one because once in debian at kdm it allows me usb |
| 15:35.18 | speedhawk | livecd: yes of course but slackware is cool too. |
| 15:35.26 | livecd | ohh speedhawk yeah |
| 15:35.29 | livecd | you are damn right |
| 15:35.32 | DevilChaos | yes to usb but doesnt work till kdm prompt |
| 15:35.33 | nathanhi | speedhawk, arch is better |
| 15:35.43 | speedhawk | nathanhi: yes. the rolling realease is perfect. |
| 15:35.45 | livecd | i love to pacman/yaourt my life |
| 15:35.54 | nathanhi | jep |
| 15:35.58 | GhostlyDeath | Could you guys take it elsewhere |
| 15:36.00 | livecd | rolling release rocks and repos are great to use |
| 15:36.07 | speedhawk | yes that it is |
| 15:36.08 | GhostlyDeath | you 4 could be yourself |
| 15:36.10 | jpinx | !ot |
| 15:36.10 | dpkg | Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic (i.e., Debian support); imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. #debian-offtopic is the place for longer off-topic discussions. |
| 15:36.11 | DevilChaos | need to switch over or stay in ps/2 and i think stems from the keyboard setup right at the very begging of install |
| 15:36.15 | livecd | does anyone of you uses the testing repo? |
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| 15:36.25 | nathanhi | i use testing |
| 15:36.25 | speedhawk | yes livecd |
| 15:36.27 | abrotman | livecd: ask your real question |
| 15:36.32 | nathanhi | testing still rocks |
| 15:36.38 | n0nsense | testing? |
| 15:36.38 | speedhawk | i have an real question. |
| 15:36.43 | speedhawk | n0nsense: yes testing |
| 15:36.47 | n0nsense | speedhawk: sid? :D |
| 15:36.52 | n0nsense | ah.. nope |
| 15:36.52 | livecd | abrotman: i have a hd and it was mounted (ext4) after i did a fsck i couldn't mount it anymore |
| 15:36.55 | n0nsense | dammit |
| 15:36.57 | speedhawk | n0nsense: no arch linux |
| 15:37.01 | livecd | i did the fsck mounted |
| 15:37.04 | n0nsense | speedhawk: xd |
| 15:37.13 | nathanhi | n0nsense, what do you use? |
| 15:37.21 | livecd | and i did it with archlinux |
| 15:37.22 | GhostlyDeath | DevilChaos: Did switching to PS/2 work previously? |
| 15:37.25 | n0nsense | nathanhi: arch, but no testing |
| 15:37.28 | jpinx | DevilChaos: I had some similar problems with a usb keyboard plugged into a usb/ps2 converter |
| 15:37.33 | DevilChaos | abrotman : have you any ideas or do i just stick to the ps/2? |
| 15:37.35 | speedhawk | n0nsense: arch with no testing repo sucks :P |
| 15:37.41 | abrotman | DevilChaos: i didn't see your question |
| 15:37.42 | n0nsense | speedhawk: why? |
| 15:37.51 | abrotman | if you want to talk about archlinux .. go to their channel |
| 15:37.53 | DevilChaos | hey folks have a small problem with my keyboard on booting my system after a reinstall and wonder if one of you have any suggestions about changing the usage from ps/2 style to usb at the very begging of the boot process when i am prompted for my luks passwd? |
| 15:37.54 | nathanhi | n0nsense, test it in a virtal machine, it still rocks |
| 15:37.59 | speedhawk | n0nsense: because the testing repo is more interresting |
| 15:38.04 | speedhawk | abrotman: ehm... |
| 15:38.10 | GhostlyDeath | Ban hammar! |
| 15:38.16 | n0nsense | xD |
| 15:38.26 | speedhawk | ich finds cool hier :P |
| 15:38.28 | n0nsense | speedhawk: I'm also using debian on my server |
| 15:38.28 | speedhawk | :D |
| 15:38.32 | livecd | ich auch |
| 15:38.33 | n0nsense | and on erwin |
| 15:38.38 | abrotman | english only here |
| 15:38.44 | n0nsense | erwin is too old to run arch |
| 15:38.48 | abrotman | DevilChaos: checked your BIOS? |
| 15:38.49 | nathanhi | n0nsense, i'm not using debian on my server :) |
| 15:38.55 | speedhawk | abrotman: i can speak in my language whereever i am :P |
| 15:38.58 | livecd | how could a mashine be to old for arch? |
| 15:38.59 | abrotman | not here |
| 15:39.06 | speedhawk | abrotman: or what? :D |
| 15:39.07 | livecd | n0nsense: ever tested uArch? |
| 15:39.07 | GhostlyDeath | abrotman: Drop the hammer |
| 15:39.08 | jpinx | !de |
| 15:39.09 | dpkg | deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). DE == Desktop Environment |
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| 15:39.10 | n0nsense | livecd: the kernel is too new |
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| 15:39.14 | DevilChaos | abrotman it only happens after grub and into the luks passwd prompt no other time at all so i think it might be set in terminal config maybe |
| 15:39.17 | n0nsense | livecd: no, but sounds interesting |
| 15:39.28 | livecd | yeah i was a devel but had no time |
| 15:39.32 | DevilChaos | how do i access that? |
| 15:39.37 | livecd | so it dies slowly maybe it's still alive |
| 15:39.37 | n0nsense | livecd: newer kernels did not support my keyboard at newer kernels |
| 15:39.44 | abrotman | DevilChaos: perhaps it's an initrd issue |
| 15:39.45 | livecd | n0nsense: then use an old one |
| 15:39.46 | nathanhi | n0nsense, wtf? |
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| 15:39.53 | abrotman | n0nsense: do you need help with debian? |
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| 15:39.57 | nathanhi | n0nsense, jep 2.4 or something else |
| 15:39.57 | livecd | and n0nsense report the bug |
| 15:40.13 | n0nsense | abrotman: same with newer kernels than 2.6.18 on debian |
| 15:40.16 | livecd | abrotman: do you need help with archlinux? |
| 15:40.20 | DevilChaos | ok so what does that mean ? |
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| 15:40.23 | speedhawk | :D |
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| 15:40.25 | GhostlyDeath | It's hammer time |
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| 15:40.39 | DevilChaos | i understand that the keyboard would only be picked up after hal starts |
| 15:40.50 | DevilChaos | after i boot / partition |
| 15:40.51 | GhostlyDeath | DevilChaos: So you are using PS/2 then you want to switch to USB? |
| 15:40.55 | GhostlyDeath | or was it the only way around? |
| 15:40.58 | GhostlyDeath | other* |
| 15:41.11 | DevilChaos | i want to use usb period |
| 15:41.17 | n0nsense | erwin is from 1999 and it's ps/2 is broken |
| 15:41.21 | GhostlyDeath | Did you try not plugging in PS/2? |
| 15:41.24 | speedhawk | Can someone help me to install Windows? when i partition the hdd it fails with a bluescreen |
| 15:41.25 | DevilChaos | but need ps/2 to enter luks passwd |
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| 15:41.33 | nathanhi | speedhawk, use arch |
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| 15:41.39 | GhostlyDeath | speedhawk: ##windows |
| 15:41.49 | DevilChaos | speed hawk foget windblows stick with debian and give old bill the heave ho! |
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| 15:41.56 | DevilChaos | forget |
| 15:41.58 | GhostlyDeath | yea man |
| 15:42.04 | WX_0 | livecd: Think Commodore-64 |
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| 15:42.36 | DevilChaos | GhostlyDeath :any other suggestions? |
| 15:42.48 | abrotman | DevilChaos: so it works at grub .. then fails later? |
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| 15:42.51 | jpinx | speedhawk: are you trying to install a dual-boot system? |
| 15:43.03 | GhostlyDeath | He's trying to troll |
| 15:43.05 | GhostlyDeath | but he left |
| 15:43.08 | jpinx | heh |
| 15:43.15 | GhostlyDeath | DevilChaos: all I have so far |
| 15:43.30 | jpinx | did he jump or was he pushed ? ;) |
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| 15:43.40 | DevilChaos | well it allows me to press enter so i prusume so untill i get passed the entering the luks passwd when my sys starts running |
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| 15:44.29 | DevilChaos | thats why i think its terminal config related |
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| 15:45.05 | DevilChaos | its not really too much of a hassle but would be nice just to have it work |
| 15:45.17 | GhostlyDeath | DevilChaos: You could try changing BIOS options |
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| 15:45.30 | DevilChaos | what will it be under? |
| 15:45.30 | GhostlyDeath | There might be some "Legacy USB" stuff |
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| 15:45.42 | GhostlyDeath | Some BIOSes might have a USB keyboard option |
| 15:45.58 | jpinx | or is there something changing your settings when x starts? |
| 15:45.59 | DevilChaos | well thats one option |
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| 15:46.38 | DevilChaos | i dont know |
| 15:47.01 | DevilChaos | xserver is configured by hand by me |
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| 15:47.11 | DevilChaos | uk layout pc105 |
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| 15:47.52 | GhostlyDeath | DevilChaos: it using the "kdb" driver? |
| 15:48.04 | DevilChaos | yes |
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| 15:49.51 | ewet | nareshov: as far as i understand swappiness it would not prevent the system to use swap in case of a memory hole because even at 0 swap would win. or not? |
| 15:50.05 | DevilChaos | how come wlasasisstant got scrapped? |
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| 15:52.11 | Samb0 | hi does anyone know about how to get a ralink wireless usb dongle to work with debian etch? it only comes with windows drivers so I don |
| 15:52.17 | Samb0 | 't know if its compatible |
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| 15:53.53 | DevilChaos | Samb0:sounds like you need to google that to see if anyone has used it before what is the driver name under windblows please? |
| 15:53.56 | GhostlyDeath | Samb0: Do you have the ralink firmware? |
| 15:54.03 | jpinx | Samb0: you will find lots of information on that in google |
| 15:54.16 | GhostlyDeath | Samb0: There should be some ralink-firmware and there are probably kernel modules also |
| 15:54.22 | Samb0 | ok will check the driver name |
| 15:54.26 | GhostlyDeath | Samb0: You could also use dmesg to get the last few lines after plugging it in |
| 15:54.38 | Samb0 | k |
| 15:55.03 | DevilChaos | lol just hope its not an atheros controlled chip |
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| 15:55.55 | DevilChaos | oh do lsusb after pluggin it in and it should tell you the chips spec |
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| 15:57.05 | DevilChaos | GhostlyDeath: how long have you been using debian? |
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| 15:58.15 | DevilChaos | does anyone here use atheros controlled wireless ? (madwifi) |
| 15:58.25 | GhostlyDeath | DevilChaos: since 2005 |
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| 15:58.55 | DevilChaos | cool so what did you use defore that? |
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| 16:00.07 | GhostlyDeath | DevilChaos: Windows 98 SE |
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| 16:00.37 | GhostlyDeath | I dual booted with it until 2007 or so |
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| 16:00.45 | DevilChaos | im having alot of trouble sorting it out on my ibm laptop as i cant use wlassistant anymore what else can i use as a manager i have 2 or 3 installed and think they are pretty crap or it might be that i have them conflicting with oneanother? |
| 16:00.58 | DevilChaos | wholly crap win98 se |
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| 16:01.46 | DevilChaos | i havnt had win on my desktop since 2000 |
| 16:01.51 | DevilChaos | and it was nt prof |
| 16:02.00 | jpinx | DevilChaos: try wicd |
| 16:02.02 | gentlyninja | what is the package name of the flashplayer in testing? i only found the extension flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound but no flashplayer alone |
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| 16:02.25 | adb | !flashplugin-nonfree |
| 16:02.26 | dpkg | Adobe Flash Player is non-free and cannot be in a stable debian release because Adobe doesn't provide security support for older versions (see http://bugs.debian.org/457291). The easist way to install flash is with the flashplayer-mozilla package from debian-multimedia.org; there is also a flashplugin-nonfree package for sid and backports.org users. Ask me about <dmm> <non-free> <bpo> <flash64beta> http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer |
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| 16:02.36 | GhostlyDeath | gentlyninja: Debian Multimedia has flashplayer-mozilla |
| 16:02.42 | adb | gentlyninja: ^^ |
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| 16:03.56 | DevilChaos | jpinx:wicd not found in repos |
| 16:04.11 | DevilChaos | is it a source file? |
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| 16:04.49 | jpinx | DevilChaos: you need to get it direct from wicd.net |
| 16:04.53 | abrotman | jpinx: that's only in unstable IIRC |
| 16:05.04 | jpinx | I installed it and ended all my wifi troubles |
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| 16:05.30 | jpinx | abrotman: yes - but it only missed being in lenny because of the long freeze |
| 16:05.56 | abrotman | jpinx: freeze is over |
| 16:06.01 | abrotman | !why is wicd not in testing |
| 16:06.01 | dpkg | wicd is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=wicd |
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| 16:07.32 | jpinx | interesting - I was told by someone in eeepc that it had missed being in lenny because it was frozen out |
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| 16:08.04 | abrotman | jpinx: uhm .. yes, but lenny has been released, freeze is over |
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| 16:08.25 | jpinx | yes - but they won't add a package after release - right? |
| 16:08.27 | sambo_ | I disconnected and reconnected and dmesg gave me: |
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| 16:08.31 | sambo_ | usb 4-1: USB disconnect, address 4 |
| 16:08.35 | sambo_ | usb 4-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 5 |
| 16:08.39 | sambo_ | usb 4-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice |
| 16:08.47 | sambo_ | for the ralink usb dongle thing |
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| 16:08.51 | ma3x | what the hell causes the thinkpad to darken the screen every time i launch xorg or a full screen app |
| 16:09.10 | sdf2 | anybody can actually tell me what is this pulseaudio thing? |
| 16:09.22 | adb | !pulseaudio |
| 16:09.31 | adb | !pulse |
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| 16:10.06 | fpga | Hello! I want to create my own distibution, based on Debian. I need to control EVERY single package. Just distro, without, for example, APT and without ls amd mv command, but woth cp command :) How to do this??? |
| 16:10.45 | jpinx | fpga: I suggest you talk to #debian-live |
| 16:11.08 | adb | sdf2: try google |
| 16:11.11 | sdf2 | i just tried out ubuntu and this distro is kinda funny |
| 16:11.21 | sdf2 | i can't make sound work here |
| 16:11.23 | sdf2 | only on debian |
| 16:11.30 | sambo_ | also I think the driver is called something like rt73.sys |
| 16:11.49 | sambo_ | (for windows xp) it only comes with windows drivers |
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| 16:12.40 | gentlyninja | when i do "aptitude update" it ignores all sources http://paste.debian.net/29508/ .(my sources.list http://paste.debian.net/29509/ ) |
| 16:12.47 | DevilChaos | ma3x:what driver are you using for xorg what thinkpad is it a t series? |
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| 16:13.58 | phobos_anomaly | gentlyninja: looks like you need a different set of repo's |
| 16:14.01 | phobos_anomaly | hold on a minute |
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| 16:14.36 | stew | gentlyninja: there is not a mirror at www.debian.org, see "/msg dpkg mirrors" for a list of official debian mirrors |
| 16:14.36 | adb | gentlyninja: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free |
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| 16:15.42 | phobos_anomaly | gentlyninja: or try these http://pastebin.ca/1350283 |
| 16:15.50 | adb | !sources.list |
| 16:15.50 | dpkg | The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian lenny main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <apt-setup> <lenny security> <testing security> "man sources.list" and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
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| 16:16.12 | adb | gentlyninja: ^^ |
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| 16:17.54 | gentlyninja | thanks it works now |
| 16:18.11 | adb | ok ... nice |
| 16:18.44 | Samb1 | so I'm guessing that my wireless usb dongle is using the ralink RT2573 chipset.. |
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| 16:19.20 | adb | !rt25 |
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| 16:20.04 | Akuw | hi |
| 16:20.09 | DevilChaos | whats the command for finding out the mac addy for my laptop please? |
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| 16:20.36 | phobos_anomaly | DevilChaos: sudo ifconfig -a ? |
| 16:20.36 | Akuw | i need to create some animations like flash banner for a client, what application is there? |
| 16:21.03 | DevilChaos | cool cheer |
| 16:21.07 | DevilChaos | s |
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| 16:26.08 | nareshov | Akuw: http://www.salasaga.org/index.php/download |
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| 16:26.19 | nareshov | Akuw: also google "create flash content on linux" |
| 16:26.26 | abrotman | you can do it in php |
| 16:26.33 | abrotman | IIRC anyways ... |
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| 16:27.08 | DevilChaos | peace need to shoot off thanks for the help |
| 16:27.10 | DevilChaos | :) |
| 16:27.13 | assasukasse | hi everyone, i am trying to make a recurrent cp task using gnome-schedule, i set up as root a recurrent task that does this command: cp -rux / /mnt/backup |
| 16:27.15 | assasukasse | is that correct? |
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| 16:27.25 | assasukasse | i get a warning that it will be executed from the home directory |
| 16:27.48 | abrotman | assasukasse: and when it runs ? |
| 16:27.53 | assasukasse | 3am |
| 16:27.58 | assasukasse | every day |
| 16:28.05 | tralala | assasukasse, there are far better ways to backup a system |
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| 16:28.16 | abrotman | assasukasse: does it run? |
| 16:28.19 | assasukasse | tralala rsync i guess |
| 16:28.46 | assasukasse | abrotman: seems no |
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| 16:29.13 | nareshov | Akuw: also, try this http://www.openlaszlo.org/demos |
| 16:29.18 | Karloo | debian |
| 16:29.20 | tralala | assasukasse, rsync is not a backup tool. There are plenty of backup solutions with different degrees of flexibility/complexity |
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| 16:29.43 | assasukasse | tralala: i want just to mirror my root directory |
| 16:29.44 | tralala | with bacula probably being the most flexible/complex |
| 16:29.52 | ma3x | can anyone help me with my screen? every time i launch a game or xorg the screen light gets very dark. what's causing this? |
| 16:29.59 | tralala | assasukasse, to another machine? |
| 16:30.06 | Karloo | debian |
| 16:30.07 | assasukasse | tralala: to another hdd |
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| 16:30.45 | Akuw | any repo ? |
| 16:30.51 | tralala | assasukasse, have you considered raid? |
| 16:31.02 | assasukasse | tralala: yup but i am out of bucks |
| 16:31.04 | Karloo | debian |
| 16:31.37 | tralala | assasukasse, there's software raid that will cost you no bucks, plus you seem to have the extra hard disk |
| 16:31.53 | abrotman | Karloo: do you need help? |
| 16:32.00 | assasukasse | tralala: uhm..but shouldn't be the disk all the same size? |
| 16:32.03 | assasukasse | i have one 120Gb |
| 16:32.05 | assasukasse | one 20Gb |
| 16:32.07 | assasukasse | and one 10Gb |
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| 16:32.37 | Karloo | abrotman: debian |
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| 16:32.47 | abrotman | Karloo: you'd do better to ask your real question |
| 16:33.00 | Akuw | openlazlo is GPL ? |
| 16:33.03 | tralala | assasukasse, not if you use lvm |
| 16:33.32 | tralala | but the root partition has to fit to the smallest disk that will participate in the raid |
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| 16:33.54 | nareshov | Akuw: CPL |
| 16:33.55 | nareshov | lol |
| 16:34.01 | BumfunMC | hi. can anyone help me with aircrack? it keeps saying my key is A1:23:45:67:81:23:45:67:81:23:45:67:8F although it isnt |
| 16:34.17 | abrotman | BumfunMC: which version of debian? |
| 16:34.18 | Karloo | what question shall I ask, abrotman? |
| 16:34.30 | abrotman | oh yeah .. it's sunday |
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| 16:34.58 | BumfunMC | abortman: lenny |
| 16:35.22 | Karloo | what question shall I ask |
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| 16:37.10 | WX_0 | Karloo: You tell us |
| 16:37.22 | Karloo | why |
| 16:37.52 | WX_0 | You tell us. |
| 16:37.53 | abrotman | Karloo: Do you need help with Debian or not? |
| 16:37.57 | Karloo | debian |
| 16:38.00 | abrotman | and this is a yes/no question, so choose carefully |
| 16:38.04 | avu | obvious troll is obvious |
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| 16:38.23 | Karloo | what question shall I ask about debian? |
| 16:38.31 | WX_0 | Karloo, we don't care |
| 16:38.34 | craigevil | no hes trolling in ##linux as well |
| 16:38.48 | Karloo | why don't you care? |
| 16:38.49 | WX_0 | I'm trolling ##politics atm |
| 16:39.05 | abrotman | they're all trolls there |
| 16:39.21 | WX_0 | abrotman, I know, it's quite hard |
| 16:39.21 | adb | !we |
| 16:39.21 | dpkg | we are going to replace you soon, or human, or the GNU fighers |
| 16:39.34 | WX_0 | (11:39:14 AM) WX_0: Jews are responsible for Global Warming |
| 16:39.34 | WX_0 | (11:39:17 AM) WX_0: you realize this no? |
| 16:39.34 | WX_0 | (11:39:23 AM) kuber: shut up WX_0 you're not funny nor edgy |
| 16:39.34 | WX_0 | (11:39:29 AM) kuber: get a new gimmick |
| 16:39.34 | WX_0 | (11:39:32 AM) kuber: you uncreative jackhole |
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| 16:39.39 | nareshov | lulz |
| 16:39.44 | WX_0 | Gaaaaah |
| 16:39.50 | abrotman | WX_0: we do NOT care .. do not paste that again |
| 16:39.54 | jpinx | !spell fighters |
| 16:39.55 | dpkg | 'fighters' may be spelled correctly |
| 16:39.59 | Karloo | debian |
| 16:40.00 | WX_0 | abrotman: I care. |
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| 16:40.14 | abrotman | WX_0: do it again and you'll be tossed also |
| 16:40.17 | jpinx | !spell fighers |
| 16:40.19 | dpkg | possible spellings for fighers: fig hers fig-hers fighters Fugger's fishers highers forgers diggers fighter's forgoers fifers fights figs fingers figures fogies fugues Fisher's fig's fisher's fixer jiggers niggers riggers fixers fuckers fugue's fibers fiches filers firers fishes fivers forger's tigers fakers digger's Fathers fathers fibbers fiche's fillers fitters forgoer's fifer's finger's figure's Fischer's jigger's nigger's rigger's Fokker's fixer's ... |
| 16:40.25 | nareshov | lol |
| 16:40.35 | abrotman | jpinx: stop |
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| 16:40.57 | jpinx | just checking the spelling in dpkg's resonse to "!we |
| 16:41.04 | abrotman | jpinx: dictionary.com |
| 16:41.32 | jpinx | I believe you might want to edit that response with the correct spelling |
| 16:41.43 | avu | jpinx, you can do so yourself |
| 16:41.43 | WX_0 | abrotman: Calm down, I was just making small chat - pasted a bit too long of a log |
| 16:42.02 | avu | WX_0, this is a channel for debian support, not for idle chatting |
| 16:42.07 | abrotman | WX_0: try #debian-offtopic .. wrong channel for that nonsense |
| 16:42.10 | avu | WX_0, join #debian-offtopic for that |
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| 16:42.20 | WX_0 | I'll keep that in mind - thanks avu/abrotman |
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| 16:42.54 | tralala | you hurt him |
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| 16:44.10 | jpinx | avu: dpkg doesn't want me to edit that |
| 16:44.29 | avu | ah, might not be a factoid but a command then |
| 16:44.46 | jpinx | has better things to do than mess around with dpkg;) |
| 16:44.59 | sambo_ | hmm the rt2*** packages seem to be removed from my etch distro |
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| 16:45.34 | abrotman | Samb0: is it in non-free? |
| 16:46.01 | Samb0 | its in the package list in etch but it gives you the warning that it has been removed |
| 16:46.10 | abrotman | what's the actual package name? |
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| 16:46.51 | craigevil | http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=rt2&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all&sourceid=mozilla-search |
| 16:47.24 | craigevil | pretty much all of the rt* packages are in etch |
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| 16:47.53 | Samb0 | theres rt2570-source |
| 16:47.56 | Mark17 | hello, how can i kill the following proces: 29889 root 20 0 3244 812 668 R 99 0.1 10:59.22 cp (please note kill -9 29889 doesnt work) |
| 16:48.01 | Samb0 | rt2*00-source |
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| 16:48.25 | nareshov | Samb0: you probably require modules-assistant to use that? |
| 16:48.36 | phobos_anomaly | Mark17: sudo kill <pid> |
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| 16:49.09 | Samb0 | am actually looking at this guide now: http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/rt73 |
| 16:49.16 | Samb0 | it recommends installing something called etch and a half |
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| 16:49.26 | abrotman | judd: versions rt2570-source |
| 16:49.27 | judd | abrotman: rt2570-source -- etch: 1.1.0+cvs20060620-3 etch-security: 1.1.0+cvs20060620-3+etch1 sid: 1.1.0+cvs20080623-1 lenny: 1.1.0+cvs20080623-2 sid: 1.1.0+cvs20080623-2 squeeze: 1.1.0+cvs20080623-2 |
| 16:49.27 | rwaite | yay for lenny |
| 16:49.34 | abrotman | seems to be in etch-security |
| 16:49.56 | Samb0 | apparently its experimental in etch |
| 16:50.03 | Mark17 | phobos_anomaly: that also doesnt work (please note i am root) |
| 16:50.46 | abrotman | Samb0: that doesn't even make sense |
| 16:50.50 | abrotman | Samb0: it's still in etch |
| 16:52.07 | Samb0 | it says in the package manager: rt2x00-source: |
| 16:52.07 | Samb0 | Package rt2x00-source has no available version, but exists in the database. |
| 16:52.29 | abrotman | Samb0: put your sources.list in a pastebin |
| 16:52.39 | Samb0 | k |
| 16:55.04 | Samb0 | k.. its at http://paste.debian.net/29512/ |
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| 16:56.29 | abrotman | Samb0: aptitude update .. then paste the output of apt-cache policy rt2570-source |
| 16:56.49 | Samb0 | k |
| 16:57.04 | adb | Samb0: line 3 is malformated |
| 16:57.39 | adb | try deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian main contrib non-free |
| 16:57.49 | Samb0 | ahh yeh just seen that |
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| 16:59.49 | adb | same for line 10 |
| 17:00.03 | adb | + 8 |
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| 17:00.10 | abrotman | no, tohse are fine |
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| 17:00.36 | adb | ah , ok |
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| 17:04.08 | junix | i seem to be having some trouble downloading the new debian image via jigdo, anyone know what mirrors are up to date? |
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| 17:05.14 | StarkD | I got a default installation of debian lenny (expect standard system software selection at install) and vbox 2.1 from virtualbox.org. how do I get Internet access from a windows xp guest? do I need to configure windows or debian somehow? |
| 17:05.33 | StarkD | I've tried all combination I've found |
| 17:05.43 | mkeil | thats a good question StarkD.. i have the same problem at work ;) |
| 17:05.51 | StarkD | mkeil: oh crap |
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| 17:06.15 | abrotman | StarkD: i dont' use vbox .. but i'd imagine you either need to use some sort of routed inet access or bridge network interfaces |
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| 17:06.43 | adb | StarkD: usually irtualbox get an automatic IP class 10.x.x.x |
| 17:06.51 | adb | virtualbox* |
| 17:06.54 | jpinx | StarkD: #vbox will be able to help you |
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| 17:07.05 | mkeil | i have also tried all possibilities for the network configuration, but it doesnt works |
| 17:07.05 | jpinx | StarkD: it is a common question there |
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| 17:07.22 | StarkD | abrotman: well I tried both probably I lack some vital admin skills |
| 17:07.38 | StarkD | jpinx: I've been there a lot lately :) |
| 17:07.52 | junix | i seem to be having issues downloading lenny, is anyone else having the same problem? |
| 17:08.02 | jpinx | StarkD: I seem to remember some "howto" in suns website |
| 17:08.03 | craigevil | oh cool /etc/debian_version updated now it says squeeze/sid |
| 17:08.12 | Pnux | stupid question: does anybody know which font is used for debian's logo? |
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| 17:09.16 | Ksilebo | Anyone have experience troubleshooting high load when copying over a share, NFS or SMB? |
| 17:09.17 | StarkD | jpinx: yep I've followed that |
| 17:09.17 | Samb0 | ok this is the paste of the apt-cache policy: http://paste.debian.net/29513/ |
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| 17:10.03 | zinx | Pnux: http://phorolinux.com/open-source-project-logo-font-collections.html |
| 17:10.21 | Pnux | zinx: thanks |
| 17:10.32 | adb | junix: use >> wget http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.0/i386/iso-cd/debian-500-i386-netinst.iso |
| 17:11.24 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:11.30 | grummund | Hi, i updated sources.list from etch-->leny, is this the right way to proceed with the upgrade? |
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| 17:11.34 | grummund | apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade && apt-get upgrade |
| 17:12.02 | craigevil | grummund: /msg dpkg etch->lenny |
| 17:12.02 | stew | grummund: no, aptitude install aptitude ; aptitude safe-upgrade ; aptitude full-upgrade |
| 17:12.27 | jpinx | StarkD: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=631092 |
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| 17:13.41 | wald0 | is there a "fast" way to know the number of files that a filesystem has ? |
| 17:13.49 | wald0 | i mean, a partition |
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| 17:15.21 | wald0 | JFS |
| 17:15.29 | jpinx | wald0: ls -al gives that info |
| 17:15.46 | bkw | I get 69.496101] aic94xx: Failed to load sequencer firmware file aic94xx-seq.fw, error -2 in dmesg even if I've placed the firmware in /lib/firmware and the hw support is compiled in kernel. Any ideas how this can be solved? |
| 17:15.48 | wald0 | jpinx: i have 500 GB of data :/ |
| 17:15.59 | wald0 | is not there a "verbose" or "info" thingy on the filesystem ? |
| 17:16.39 | jpinx | wald0: not that I know of for the files, just the space used |
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| 17:20.21 | jpinx | wald0: you can get it from sudo ls -Rl and some script to extract just the number of files from that info |
| 17:21.06 | wald0 | jpinx: a simpler way could be "find / | wc -l" but i wonder if this info is not in /proc, or the filesystem or somewhere... |
| 17:21.14 | StarkD | jpinx: thanks for the link, but it didn't help me much |
| 17:21.21 | wald0 | there's a too much lot of files so that i can't wait this operation |
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| 17:21.50 | wald0 | im actually waiting that a copy of this disk finishes... 3 hours actually and still transfering with a flood of lines of files |
| 17:22.17 | \amethyst | wald0: df -i |
| 17:22.28 | \amethyst | wald0: that will give you the number of inodes in use on each file system |
| 17:23.10 | assasukasse | hi wald0 |
| 17:23.16 | \amethyst | wald0: each separate file, directory, device, symlink, etc. on the fs will have an inode; hardlinked files share an inode |
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| 17:24.25 | wald0 | \amethyst: an inode is equivalent to a file (or directory, or simlyink...) right ? |
| 17:24.28 | jpinx | StarkD: I just googled the problem - it seems to be network bridging is the issue |
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| 17:24.47 | grummund | ok, i'm a little confused... so aptitude is now prefered to apt-get... (?) but aptitude dist-upgrade wants to uninstall a bunch of packages (including e.g. gcalctool), but apt-get dist-upgrade doesn't do this |
| 17:24.58 | StarkD | jpinx: yes most probably, but I can't config it correctly |
| 17:24.59 | wald0 | hi assasukasse :) |
| 17:25.05 | \amethyst | wald0: yes |
| 17:25.11 | grummund | why does it want to uninstall gcalctool? |
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| 17:25.55 | \amethyst | grummund: aptitude why-not gcalctool |
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| 17:26.15 | wald0 | \amethyst: in df i see "used" and "free" ones, my filesystem is limited to an amount of inodes ? |
| 17:26.37 | grummund | Unknown command "why-not" |
| 17:26.40 | Gul | hi, i am having problems with mailutils that is terminating my updates, how can i repair this? http://rafb.net/p/MBWggp67.html |
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| 17:28.15 | \amethyst | wald0: yes, for most filesystems. the total number of inodes is configured when you make the filesystem; for ext2/ext3 the default is one inode per 8K or 16K |
| 17:28.28 | wald0 | bad... so i have 1894240 inodes and still remaining almost the double to transfer :/ |
| 17:29.01 | wald0 | \amethyst: well, is a good limit, and im looking that there's the 1 % marked so im safe :) |
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| 17:29.50 | \amethyst | wald0: yeah, the only time I've ever run out of inodes before space was when I unadvisedly made a FS with 1 inode per megabyte |
| 17:30.22 | wald0 | heh |
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| 17:31.26 | s3a | how do i install a .run file using terminal? |
| 17:31.51 | jpinx | grummund: man aptitude for safe-upgrade and full-upgrade |
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| 17:32.47 | wald0 | s3a: sh file.run |
| 17:32.58 | abrotman | s3a: what is it? |
| 17:33.08 | grummund | jpinx: aptitude in etch doesn't have those commands |
| 17:33.40 | s3a | iso for guest additions for virtualbox |
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| 17:34.25 | grummund | \amethyst: i'm none the wiser about why aptitude wants to remove gcalctool, evince, gedit, and others... |
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| 17:35.07 | newbie | ciao |
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| 17:35.13 | newbie | !list |
| 17:35.14 | dpkg | one warez list being sent to newbie |
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| 17:36.11 | \amethyst | grummund: are you upgrading from etch to lenny? |
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| 17:36.25 | grummund | \amethyst: yes |
| 17:36.39 | xoz | !etch->lenny |
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| 17:36.45 | \amethyst | grummund: there's a procedure for doing that; it's more complicated than just dist-upgrade |
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| 17:37.00 | xoz | ~etch->lenny |
| 17:37.20 | jpinx | !tell grummund about etch>lenny |
| 17:37.21 | \amethyst | aptitude update; aptitude install aptitude; aptitude safe-upgrade; aptitude full-upgrade |
| 17:37.40 | grummund | \amethyst: i guess i need to get the new aptitude installed first... |
| 17:37.43 | grummund | right |
| 17:37.49 | jpinx | !tell grummund about etch->lenny |
| 17:37.59 | s3a | wald0, abrotman, it says i need gnu make and apt-get install build-essential gives couldnt find package |
| 17:38.04 | jpinx | sorry for the typo |
| 17:38.04 | xoz | why cant full-upgrade automatically call safe-upgrade? |
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| 17:38.22 | Viana | hi |
| 17:38.25 | newbie | !list |
| 17:38.25 | dpkg | one warez list being sent to newbie |
| 17:38.53 | abrotman | s3a: couldn't find build-essential ? |
| 17:39.20 | s3a | abrotman, no |
| 17:39.35 | abrotman | s3a: which version of debian ? |
| 17:39.51 | s3a | abrotman, lenny |
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| 17:40.14 | abrotman | s3a: it's in lenny |
| 17:40.17 | avu | s3a, show us your sources.list and tell us that you did an apt-get update before trying to install build-essential |
| 17:40.43 | avu | s3a, (and when I mean show I do /not/ mean paste in the channel) |
| 17:41.05 | s3a | it's in virtualbox so i cant paste it here cuz im on the host |
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| 17:41.24 | tralala | s3a, use a pastebin |
| 17:41.38 | avu | s3a, well, figure something out. you seem to have internet access, so you can surely paste it somehwere |
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| 17:41.59 | avu | s3a, also, try speaking proper english please, it makes your stuff easier to understand for us non-natives |
| 17:42.27 | jpinx | s3a: you could use pastebinit - if you have it installed |
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| 17:43.58 | tuxcrafter | http://debian.pastebin.com/ down? |
| 17:44.16 | grummund | \amethyst: dpkg <etch->lenny> tells me to do aptitude dist-upgrade *before* editing sources.list, but if i do that it wants to uninstall gcalc et.al. |
| 17:44.29 | grummund | Would this be okay?: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade; edit sources.list; apt-get install aptitude && aptitude update && aptitude safe-upgrade && aptitude full-upgrade |
| 17:44.40 | tralala | it does? |
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| 17:44.44 | tralala | !etch->lenny |
| 17:44.50 | avu | grummund, read again, carefully |
| 17:44.55 | s3a | avu, tralala, abrotman, http://pastebin.com/m3fb5e97d |
| 17:44.57 | tuxcrafter | grummund: yeas but add the step apt-get upgrade apt |
| 17:45.12 | Akuw | i need help with openoffice |
| 17:45.16 | avu | grummund, but, yes, you should make sure your etch is up to date before upgrading to lenny, just like the bot says |
| 17:45.21 | Akuw | is there a channel? |
| 17:45.22 | tuxcrafter | grummund: nevermind you did the step with aptitude |
| 17:45.32 | abrotman | Akuw: /msg alis help |
| 17:45.40 | \amethyst | grummund: as long as those first two steps are done with the old sources.list |
| 17:45.59 | s3a | avu, o oops u wanted the sources.list wait |
| 17:46.10 | avu | s3a, again with the broken english |
| 17:46.13 | tralala | s3a, so you have security and volatile, but not the main archive? |
| 17:46.20 | grummund | \amethyst: yes tha's the idea. apt-get dist-upgrade doesn't ask to remove packages like aptitude does |
| 17:46.32 | s3a | avu, oh sorry |
| 17:46.55 | \amethyst | grummund: that should be fine |
| 17:47.06 | s3a | tralala, ya thats right, thats how it is from a fresh install |
| 17:47.13 | avu | s3a, no it isn't. |
| 17:47.27 | grummund | \amethyst: ok, thanks. much appreciated. |
| 17:47.46 | s3a | well in every install of debian in my entire life i had to add a line to sources.list and i forgot |
| 17:47.47 | tralala | s3a, I've never seen a fresh install that's not including the main archive. Anyway, just put it there and you'll be fine. |
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| 17:48.06 | s3a | tralala, wait can you give me the link so i can put it in? |
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| 17:48.28 | avu | s3a, are you incapable of using the web? |
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| 17:49.08 | \amethyst | !sources.list |
| 17:49.08 | dpkg | The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian lenny main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <apt-setup> <lenny security> <testing security> "man sources.list" and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
| 17:49.21 | s3a | avu, deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib ? |
| 17:49.31 | \amethyst | yes |
| 17:49.34 | avu | s3a, if that's what you want. |
| 17:49.39 | \amethyst | and non-free if you want it |
| 17:49.50 | avu | although having contrib without non-free really doesn't make much if any sense |
| 17:50.22 | stew | avu: having contrib without non-free can make sense |
| 17:50.51 | avu | stew, really? I thought contrib only was for free dependencies of packages in non-free |
| 17:51.02 | avu | ah ok, no |
| 17:51.13 | stew | avu: no, contrib is for packages with dependencies not in main |
| 17:51.13 | \amethyst | avu: other way around---free packages that depend on non-free stuff |
| 17:51.13 | avu | it's generally for free packages to use with non-free /software/ |
| 17:51.26 | rdz | is there a commandline tool switch between auto-cpu scaling and maximum frequency (performance mode)? i knmow how to do it with the appropriate /sys/ files.. but a faster way would be nice |
| 17:51.35 | avu | \amethyst, no, read what I wrote ;) |
| 17:51.38 | stew | not necessarily dependencies on non-free stuff, just dependencies on software not in main |
| 17:51.40 | Brusca | my configuration is softraid win vista (hd0 sda, hd1 sdb) and debian on separate disk (hd2 sdc). But GRUB does not recogize this properly. GRUB thinks root(hd0,0) is my debian disk and I cannot boot, how to solve this..? |
| 17:51.55 | avu | \amethyst, it's the right way around but missing something, as stew pointed out :) |
| 17:52.05 | \amethyst | avu: I took what you said to mean "free packages that things in non-free depend on" |
| 17:52.09 | \amethyst | avu: my bad |
| 17:52.17 | tralala | Brusca, update your menu.lst |
| 17:52.36 | avu | \amethyst, well, my english might have sucked on that one too :) |
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| 17:53.51 | tralala | Brusca, you can edit the boot menu by pressing "e" for booting debian and then edit the menu.lst to point it to the proper disk |
| 17:53.52 | hark | rdz: cpufrequtils |
| 17:54.11 | rdz | hark, many thanks |
| 17:54.15 | arvind_khadri | hark, hi :) any idea how to make firefox 3 work ? |
| 17:54.22 | Brusca | tralala: my first step is getting things working with the GRUB command line. But even this doesnt work yet. The device names interpreted differently by GRUB then by fdisk |
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| 17:54.41 | DistillingDebian | Hello |
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| 17:55.08 | DistillingDebian | I am trying to install debian since yesterday and I have gone through the night doing that |
| 17:55.15 | Brusca | GRUB thinks root(hd0,0) is my linux disk. But if I use fdisk-l it tells hd2,0 is linux.. |
| 17:55.16 | DistillingDebian | no success up until now |
| 17:55.32 | tralala | Brusca, so tell grub to boot off (hd2,0) |
| 17:55.38 | hark | arvind_khadri: install iceweasel? |
| 17:55.40 | craigevil | arvind_khadri: sure use iceweasel :) Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.6) Gecko/2009020409 Firefox/3.0.6 (Debian-3.0.6-1) |
| 17:55.50 | xoz | DistillingDebian: which is true actually? |
| 17:55.58 | Brusca | tralala, if I try that I get the error: disk does not exist |
| 17:56.01 | enouf | Brusca: windows softraid? you need dmraid, if even that'll work |
| 17:56.06 | arvind_khadri | craigevil, hark no firefox as in mozilla firefox |
| 17:56.13 | DistillingDebian | trying to use this http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html |
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| 17:56.42 | DistillingDebian | I trying to use my usb key |
| 17:56.52 | arvind_khadri | craigevil, iceweasel doesnt work with orkut :( |
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| 17:56.59 | craigevil | yes it does |
| 17:57.01 | hark | arvind_khadri: what's wrong with iceweasel? |
| 17:57.03 | Brusca | I installed debian on a separate disk, even then it doesnt work with GRUB next to a softraid? |
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| 17:57.07 | enouf | Brusca: also note grub-pc (grub2) starts partitioning numbers at 1, not 0 anymore |
| 17:57.18 | DistillingDebian | I didn´t find a manual very streghtfoward to follow it |
| 17:57.26 | arvind_khadri | hark, orkut page says that this browser isnt supported |
| 17:57.33 | enouf | someone correct me if i'm mistaken - but last i heard |
| 17:57.39 | tralala | Brusca, try (hd<tab><tab> |
| 17:57.44 | arvind_khadri | hark, i dont get notifications on new scraps ... |
| 17:57.46 | craigevil | arvind_khadri: if the page works with firefox it works with iceweasel at most you have to change the user.agent to say Firefox like mine does |
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| 17:58.20 | arvind_khadri | craigevil, can you help me with that? how do i do that? |
| 17:58.25 | \amethyst | arvind_khadri: in about:config you can change the setting for general.useragent.extra.firefox to Firefox/3.0.6 |
| 17:58.38 | DistillingDebian | hi xoz, any clue: |
| 17:58.40 | hark | arvind_khadri: try /msg dpkg firefox ua |
| 17:58.47 | DistillingDebian | ? |
| 17:59.01 | \amethyst | arvind_khadri: it's probably also worthwhile contacting google about it |
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| 17:59.41 | DistillingDebian | I am trying to do this mkdosfs f:/mkdosfs/dev/sdF1, but receiving access denied |
| 18:00.08 | DistillingDebian | I am trying to do this "f:\>mkdosfs f:/mkdosfs/dev/sdF1", but receiving access denied |
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| 18:00.28 | \amethyst | DistillingDebian: what operating system is that? |
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| 18:00.32 | DistillingDebian | XP |
| 18:00.32 | Eulex | DistillingDebian, uh, f:\>? |
| 18:00.32 | hark | arvind_khadri: it's probably just warning you, isn't there an option to say something like "i know, but still enable all bling" |
| 18:00.45 | DistillingDebian | f:\ => usb key |
| 18:00.45 | Eulex | DistillingDebian, ask #windows? |
| 18:00.59 | \amethyst | DistillingDebian: under Windows wouldn't you just use format f: ? |
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| 18:01.18 | arvind_khadri | hark, \amethyst thanks... do i need to restart the browser? |
| 18:01.35 | \amethyst | arvind_khadri: I don't believe so... you might have to shift-reload the page |
| 18:01.44 | DistillingDebian | f: olny => msg unable to lock |
| 18:02.01 | arvind_khadri | \amethyst, yaa :) works!!!! thanks a lot... really |
| 18:02.02 | Eulex | DistillingDebian, how is this related to debian? |
| 18:02.30 | \amethyst | DistillingDebian: you want to format f:, right? |
| 18:02.40 | abrotman | debian has f: ? |
| 18:02.42 | \amethyst | DistillingDebian: I don't think you can do that when you are sitting on f: |
| 18:03.02 | tralala | my debian have even h: |
| 18:03.05 | tralala | has* |
| 18:03.21 | DistillingDebian | it is the installation process for Debian |
| 18:03.33 | tralala | but it's c |
| 18:03.41 | tralala | pimped up |
| 18:03.47 | DistillingDebian | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html |
| 18:04.13 | js_ | how can i reload init? |
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| 18:04.40 | tralala | js_, telinit q |
| 18:04.41 | DistillingDebian | now I tried in e: and same errors |
| 18:04.57 | tralala | DistillingDebian, this link doesn't mention windows |
| 18:04.59 | Eulex | DistillingDebian, you're required to have linux installed or running to be able to follow those instructions. |
| 18:05.02 | DistillingDebian | E:\mkdosfs>mkdosfs f:/mkdosfs/dev/sdF1 |
| 18:05.02 | DistillingDebian | mkdosfs 2.11 (12 Mar 2005) |
| 18:05.02 | DistillingDebian | Win32 port by Jens-Uwe Mager <jum@anubis.han.de> |
| 18:05.02 | DistillingDebian | f:/mkdosfs/dev/sdF1: Access is denied. |
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| 18:05.19 | js_ | tralala: great! thanks |
| 18:05.24 | DistillingDebian | I didn't get the last message |
| 18:05.33 | \amethyst | DistillingDebian: those are commands to run on Linux |
| 18:05.39 | DistillingDebian | nope |
| 18:05.43 | \amethyst | DistillingDebian: from that page "you will need a system where GNU/Linux is already running and where USB is supported." |
| 18:05.53 | DistillingDebian | right |
| 18:06.13 | xoz | DistillingDebian: you dont have cd drive? |
| 18:06.25 | DistillingDebian | then, how could I start linux from my external hard drive or usb key? |
| 18:06.35 | DistillingDebian | I do, but have no way to burn it now |
| 18:06.44 | \amethyst | DistillingDebian: you could get the debian-live USB image |
| 18:06.53 | \amethyst | DistillingDebian: then boot from that and make the installer image |
| 18:06.56 | DistillingDebian | I guess I did taht |
| 18:06.56 | DistillingDebian | that |
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| 18:07.12 | jimpy | debian has a live usb image?! |
| 18:07.14 | hark | arvind_khadri: best to use the extension and switch back to the default when not needed |
| 18:07.14 | DistillingDebian | which web page? |
| 18:07.21 | xoz | DistillingDebian: and the size should be 256MB? |
| 18:07.29 | jimpy | i was looking for one the other day, wasnt able to find it |
| 18:07.43 | arvind_khadri | hark, am on orkut all the time... would it cause any trouble? |
| 18:07.58 | DistillingDebian | Do you know in which web page I could find it and the instructions as well? |
| 18:08.08 | \amethyst | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.0-live/i386/usb-hdd/ |
| 18:08.44 | \amethyst | you just need to dd or rawrite one of those .img files to the USB stick (to the entire stick, not just a single partition) |
| 18:08.47 | jimpy | is the live image new from v5.0 |
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| 18:09.08 | \amethyst | then you can boot from that and use the commands from the install guide to prepare a different USB stick with the installer |
| 18:09.26 | DistillingDebian | nice |
| 18:09.38 | DistillingDebian | I will try to follow the download |
| 18:09.44 | DistillingDebian | Where are the instructions? |
| 18:10.24 | tralala | DistillingDebian, get rawrite for windows, use it to copy the .img, boot from the stick</end> |
| 18:10.26 | \amethyst | DistillingDebian: the ones you were just looking at |
| 18:10.30 | DistillingDebian | it's downloading a 772mb img, is that alright? |
| 18:10.48 | \amethyst | DistillingDebian: wait... did you see the "easy way" section from the install guide page you mentioned? |
| 18:10.57 | DistillingDebian | I did |
| 18:10.59 | hark | arvind_khadri: oh, then just let it be :) |
| 18:11.19 | \amethyst | DistillingDebian: if you get that boot.img.gz you can skip all these extra steps |
| 18:11.30 | DistillingDebian | I got it |
| 18:11.32 | \amethyst | DistillingDebian: just rawrite that boot.img.gz onto the USB stick and boot from that |
| 18:11.32 | DistillingDebian | and then? |
| 18:11.33 | hark | you can use unetbootin |
| 18:11.37 | arvind_khadri | hark, :) i wish Mozilla was a bit soft on its stand :) |
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| 18:11.51 | DistillingDebian | how can I boot from the usb? |
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| 18:11.56 | DistillingDebian | just put my usb and let start from there? |
| 18:11.57 | \amethyst | DistillingDebian: that depends on your BIOS |
| 18:12.05 | DistillingDebian | can I use it together with Windowws? |
| 18:12.11 | \amethyst | DistillingDebian: you might have to tell your BIOS to boot from USB before hard drive |
| 18:12.20 | \amethyst | together with windows? |
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| 18:12.38 | enouf | some do it auto, and ergo; mess up your entire HDD boot order |
| 18:12.40 | DistillingDebian | use windows and linux at the same time |
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| 18:12.49 | abhinay | Hi |
| 18:12.56 | \amethyst | if you want to do it at the same time you will need some kind of virtualization program |
| 18:13.14 | DistillingDebian | so... :) how could I do it? |
| 18:13.16 | \amethyst | e.g. install virtualbox, then install Linux inside virtualbox |
| 18:13.43 | \amethyst | I don't know what virtualization programs support Windows hosts, but there are some out there |
| 18:13.44 | tralala | DistillingDebian, you won't be able to use both of them at 100% functionality |
| 18:14.03 | DistillingDebian | no problem.. at least 99.9% is fine :) |
| 18:14.05 | jpinx | \amethyst: virtual box runs on windows |
| 18:14.13 | abhinay | I'm trying to install lenny using usb stick, I followed http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html.en , but, the USB is not getting booted, I'm getting blank screen with cursor blinking. please help. |
| 18:14.14 | \amethyst | jpinx: oh, good |
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| 18:14.35 | DistillingDebian | if I get the virtual box for ubuntu it's going to work for debian as well? |
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| 18:14.56 | jpinx | abhinay: how did you make your usb stick? did you dd to the whole device? |
| 18:15.22 | tralala | DistillingDebian, it either will or it will break your system beyond repare. Or anything in the middle. |
| 18:15.23 | abhinay | jpinx, I used flexible way, I copied the full ISO image to usb stick |
| 18:15.37 | jpinx | abhinay: how did you copy it? |
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| 18:15.53 | jpinx | abhinay: what command did you use? |
| 18:15.57 | abhinay | jpinx, cp |
| 18:16.08 | jpinx | abhinay: that does not work |
| 18:16.12 | abhinay | oh |
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| 18:16.47 | stoned | hm |
| 18:16.47 | DistillingDebian | Do you think I could get the right virtual instalation by following this http://chirale.wordpress.com/2007/12/23/virtualbox-ose-debian-install-howto/? |
| 18:16.50 | nareshov | lol |
| 18:16.51 | jpinx | abhinay: do dd if=/downloaded/image of=/dev/root/device |
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| 18:18.02 | abhinay | jpinx, so the process goes like this, mkdosfs, then syslinux, copy vmlinux & initrd , create syslinux.cfg, then do 'dd' , right? |
| 18:18.04 | tralala | abhinay, did you do the syslinux part properly? |
| 18:18.16 | abhinay | tralala, yep |
| 18:18.42 | tralala | abhinay, what kind of usb boot methods does your bios support? |
| 18:18.51 | DistillingDebian | hi? |
| 18:19.07 | abhinay | I was using cp command to copy the iso to usb stick, so I just got to know from jpinx that we have to use dd |
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| 18:19.19 | tralala | DistillingDebian, why don't you install debian first and worry about virtualizaiton next? |
| 18:19.34 | DistillingDebian | Because would be double work |
| 18:19.42 | tralala | abhinay, for the method of your choice cp was right |
| 18:19.55 | DistillingDebian | I would like to do the properly installation I need |
| 18:19.56 | abhinay | tralala, oh |
| 18:19.56 | tralala | DistillingDebian, it won't |
| 18:20.00 | xoz | DistillingDebian: virtualization is trivial once you have debian working. |
| 18:20.10 | abhinay | tralala, I'm not sure on the boot method. |
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| 18:20.36 | abhinay | tralala, my system can boot from CD and also USB stick boot |
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| 18:20.56 | DistillingDebian | Right, then once I have the debian working in my usb key, I will be able to start my windows as well? |
| 18:20.59 | DistillingDebian | How? |
| 18:21.01 | tralala | abhinay, what does your bios say for booting usb sticks? Some bioses say usb-zip, usb-hdd and so on. |
| 18:21.13 | DistillingDebian | installing the virtualbox through debian? |
| 18:21.19 | xoz | DistillingDebian: yep |
| 18:21.39 | abhinay | tralala, then usb-hdd , i guess |
| 18:21.52 | DistillingDebian | once I have debian working, how could I configure it to run my internet conection? |
| 18:21.59 | jpinx | abhinay: sorry - i assumed you were putting a netinstaller onto a usb stick |
| 18:22.10 | abhinay | jpinx, nope |
| 18:22.12 | DistillingDebian | it's automatic? |
| 18:22.17 | xoz | DistillingDebian: it is taken cared of by virtualbox. |
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| 18:22.52 | nareshov | lol, it's a litlebuda |
| 18:22.52 | tralala | abhinay, check it out rather than guessing |
| 18:22.55 | xoz | DistillingDebian: i think you better get your hand dirty instead of asking questions... once you are there, you can even answer your own question. |
| 18:23.01 | DistillingDebian | ok, so I follow the easy way to install debian and how I would install the virtualbox? |
| 18:23.15 | xoz | DistillingDebian: aptitude install vir... |
| 18:23.32 | arvind_khadri | hark, no rythmbox here?? |
| 18:24.02 | abhinay | tralala, It says USB Storage Device in BIOS boot menu, How can I check it? I'm using DELL Inspiron |
| 18:24.06 | xoz | DistillingDebian: just install debian first, so that you will have the feel of the things to come. |
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| 18:24.19 | DistillingDebian | the thing about dirty is that I won't able to access internet if I don't know how to do the virtualization previous to that |
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| 18:24.42 | xoz | DistillingDebian: so? |
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| 18:24.47 | tralala | abhinay, did you install mbr on the stick? |
| 18:24.48 | DistillingDebian | for example, which zip or whatever of virtualization should I install? |
| 18:24.51 | xoz | DistillingDebian: you need to start somewhere |
| 18:25.12 | DistillingDebian | ok, but not before knowing about virtualization |
| 18:25.22 | DistillingDebian | because Iwill need the internet connection |
| 18:25.23 | abhinay | tralala, I did install-mbr |
| 18:25.27 | xoz | DistillingDebian: if debian is working with internet connection, it should be easy to install the virtualbox |
| 18:25.35 | DistillingDebian | if? |
| 18:25.44 | DistillingDebian | but it is straight like that? |
| 18:25.52 | xoz | DistillingDebian: yep. until you try, you will not know. |
| 18:25.53 | DistillingDebian | if it is, I will do that now |
| 18:26.02 | xoz | DistillingDebian: do you want us to guess? |
| 18:26.54 | DistillingDebian | I guess you already know a lot and pass the same steps before. Would be more waste of time for me just go for try-error process |
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| 18:27.14 | xoz | DistillingDebian: ok, so you have suggestion not to undergo that? |
| 18:27.28 | xoz | you want bulletproof? |
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| 18:27.50 | DistillingDebian | you already asnwered... my doubt would be if I didn't have connection once I have debian working |
| 18:27.54 | tralala | DistillingDebian, we know a lot of things that you don't. You will learn them as well when you get busy with it. |
| 18:28.04 | DistillingDebian | if I have it I won't major problems |
| 18:28.06 | xoz | use two computers with one having internet connection... if you use only one system, you need a backup system to be sure. |
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| 18:28.33 | DistillingDebian | basic things is good pass by.. but thanks a lot for now |
| 18:28.51 | DistillingDebian | pass by with more expert people |
| 18:28.52 | xoz | DistillingDebian: still, you will not know until you try. |
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| 18:28.58 | tralala | abhinay, when you select the boot sequence what do you see there? |
| 18:29.11 | abhinay | tralala, now I'm getting 'MBR FA:' |
| 18:29.46 | abhinay | tralala, when I boot from usb stick. |
| 18:29.46 | tralala | abhinay, install-mbr again |
| 18:29.48 | xoz | expert people start by not being expert |
| 18:29.51 | abhinay | tralala, ok |
| 18:29.54 | xoz | there is not shortcut |
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| 18:30.26 | tralala | abhinay, do not install it on a partition (e.g. sdc1) but on the device itself (e.g. sdc) |
| 18:30.31 | DistillingDebian | I know it.... again, I just didn't want waste time if I didn't have the internet connection... please.. just to explain my point. It's my very first time booting linux. You already explained me how to do that. However, my doubt would be what if I didn't have Internet connection |
| 18:30.43 | DistillingDebian | But it also you already answered |
| 18:30.47 | DistillingDebian | guys.. I will try now |
| 18:30.50 | DistillingDebian | see you later |
| 18:30.56 | DistillingDebian | thank you for now |
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| 18:31.03 | grummund | hi, "Configuring libpam0g", wants to restart gdm... will this kill the current X session? |
| 18:31.10 | xoz | DistillingDebian: if you have livecd, it will help a lot. |
| 18:31.20 | abhinay | tralala, I did install on sdb1 previously, may be that's the wrong thing I did, let me redo it |
| 18:31.31 | toshiba510cdt | i have a booting delay problem on my ancient Pentium 133 MHz laptop running Lenny. can anyone help me? details are to be found on http://pastebin.ca/1350201 |
| 18:31.49 | arvind_khadri | grummund, ya |
| 18:31.52 | tralala | abhinay, this was definately wrong. Hopefully it hasn't damaged anything |
| 18:31.55 | xoz | that is ancient |
| 18:32.25 | DistillingDebian | what do you mean by liveCd? |
| 18:32.52 | arvind_khadri | DistillingDebian, its like you can try the whole distro without installing it |
| 18:32.56 | tralala | a linux that works off a cd without requiring installation |
| 18:33.05 | DistillingDebian | it is a software |
| 18:33.06 | DistillingDebian | ? |
| 18:33.13 | arvind_khadri | dpkg, tell DistillingDebian about livecd |
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| 18:34.40 | grummund | arvind_khadri: ty |
| 18:35.56 | DistillingDebian | can I use a live cd from a usb key? |
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| 18:36.53 | DistillingDebian | what's is moron #1? |
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| 18:37.17 | DistillingDebian | dpkg could you explain that here? |
| 18:37.19 | dpkg | DistillingDebian: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 18:37.21 | xoz | toshiba510cdt: it seems you have a hardware detection problem |
| 18:37.44 | hark | arvind_khadri: it's there |
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| 18:37.51 | toshiba510cdt | i mean during the booting process hangs for 2 minutes solid before continuing. i did NOT have that problem with etch so it NOT because the machine is old. what is the newbie friendly solution? |
| 18:38.02 | DistillingDebian | yes, me too, but why you are here for man? |
| 18:38.12 | tralala | DistillingDebian, http://live.debian.net/ |
| 18:38.22 | DistillingDebian | if you don't like to help, just don't |
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| 18:38.31 | DistillingDebian | my question are basic ones.. |
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| 18:38.57 | DistillingDebian | that's why I don't want waste time with things people having been around for quite some time now |
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| 18:39.08 | hark | arvind_khadri: wrong spelling? |
| 18:39.34 | lxsameer | how can i only downloads packages with apt-get ? with -d? |
| 18:39.39 | DistillingDebian | I RTFM and didn't work, so what? I have a job, a family and more things to study.. that's why I am here asking questions |
| 18:39.44 | arvind_khadri | hark, :) ya the spelling is too confusing |
| 18:39.50 | newsense | DistillingDebian: you know dpkg is a bot right |
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| 18:40.13 | xoz | DistillingDebian: google for live usb linux |
| 18:41.06 | abrotman | !de |
| 18:41.06 | dpkg | deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). DE == Desktop Environment |
| 18:41.15 | DistillingDebian | I did that and didn't work... I will come back later with news |
| 18:41.18 | DistillingDebian | thank you |
| 18:41.28 | DistillingDebian | quit |
| 18:41.39 | jpinx | DistillingDebian: try #debian-live |
| 18:42.07 | newsense | #debian-live on irc.oftc.net |
| 18:42.33 | jpinx | newsense: yes - thanks for the correction |
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| 18:43.20 | xoz | is usb booting really difficult? because live-cd booting and burning is just straightforward |
| 18:43.39 | utabak | hi guys, can someone look at the page: tell whether lenny is compiled with the options provided in step 1: here is the address http://resnet.tudelft.nl/manuals/pppoe/linux-debian/tudelft-resnet-en.html |
| 18:43.45 | jpinx | xoz it depends on your bios |
| 18:44.00 | xoz | yeah, i think the bios and the usb reader |
| 18:44.19 | utabak | I assume yes because the debian versions are old ones |
| 18:44.24 | tralala | xoz, it's messy - especially with older bioses |
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| 18:44.45 | jpinx | xoz: I can not boot from USB on my old laptop - but i can from the newer one |
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| 18:45.03 | xoz | problem with DistillingDebian is that he wants to rely on usb instead of solving his problem by buring cd. |
| 18:45.24 | xoz | *burning livecd* |
| 18:45.24 | jpinx | xoz sometimes there is no update to an older machines bios to allow usb booting |
| 18:45.36 | pipeline | not too many machines like that left |
| 18:45.37 | abhinay | tralala, still I'm getting 'MBR FA:' and nothing more. :( |
| 18:45.40 | pipeline | that are still fast enough to run debian |
| 18:45.56 | pipeline | also, booting usb or cd is usually the wrong answer |
| 18:46.00 | pipeline | everything supports pxe |
| 18:46.01 | pipeline | use it |
| 18:46.07 | xoz | i see. plus too many types of usb |
| 18:46.12 | jpinx | xoz it's no problem to boot from the usb once the bios is set for it, but there are confusing issues in grub to resolve |
| 18:46.20 | pipeline | pxe is a very, very old standard... legacy systems that don't support pxe will still be able to indirectly support pxe through the option ROM built into many NICs |
| 18:46.57 | xoz | yep. i agree with pipeline... although any laptop with cdrom usually has no problem with livecd |
| 18:47.02 | jpinx | pipeline: my 500MHz laptop has no BIOS to boot from USB, but it is very capable of running lenny |
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| 18:47.24 | tralala | abhinay, time to try the easy way |
| 18:47.37 | jpinx | xoz I see no differences in types of usb - I can boot froma SD card reader |
| 18:47.38 | xoz | just resurrected an old 600 pIII using pxe |
| 18:47.40 | pipeline | jpinx: ooook then. That's the kind of hardware that is fading away. |
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| 18:47.58 | pipeline | jpinx: a dual 500 MHz, I would consider keeping. Single 500 MHz, with a dead battery, probably time to move onto the junk pile :) |
| 18:48.02 | abhinay | tralala, I can't copy the full ISO image in easy way, right? |
| 18:48.05 | jpinx | pipeline: I hope to get a few more years out of this old laptop ;) |
| 18:48.10 | xoz | jpinx: what about using multireader like CF card? |
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| 18:48.45 | xoz | has to resurrect his old sharp powered by transmeta cpu |
| 18:48.46 | pipeline | jpinx: heh. one of these days i'll get one of those sun ray thin client notebooks; never buy a new notebook again ;) |
| 18:48.54 | jpinx | xoz I don't have firsthand experience of them, but as long as the bios reads the correct part, you should be fine |
| 18:49.03 | xoz | jpinx: cool |
| 18:49.17 | tralala | abhinay, I don't know. But if you have a decent connection you don't need the whole cd. |
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| 18:49.35 | abhinay | tralala, ok |
| 18:49.39 | jpinx | pipeline: i can't afford a new anything ;) |
| 18:49.58 | xoz | reboots for etch->lenny transition. |
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| 18:50.07 | abhinay | tralala, Thanks George, for the help :) |
| 18:50.17 | utabak | hi all , ipppd and pppd are the same or not, checking aptitude finds ipppd not pppd |
| 18:50.27 | tralala | abhinay, no worries |
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| 18:52.00 | jpinx | xoz be aware of the somewhat confusing nomenclature for grub when booting from a USB device |
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| 18:52.58 | JanKunder | aa |
| 18:53.09 | tralala | is still gathering courage to do etch->lenny |
| 18:53.26 | xoz | still wonders why grub's menu.lst still makes mistake in drive mapping after installing a new kernel... something wrong with the script? |
| 18:53.38 | jpinx | tralala: it's not so bad if your rigorously stick to the instructions |
| 18:53.49 | kogyaru | yeesh. aptitude(1) was created in 1999, and I've only just learned about it a few minutes ago. |
| 18:54.04 | jpinx | !tell tralala about etch->lenny |
| 18:54.38 | jpinx | xoz - that could be the confusing way you have to confgure grub i was referring to |
| 18:54.47 | jpinx | missed..... |
| 18:54.56 | tralala | jpinx, I generally do, but I have lots of backports, multimedia and some custom packages |
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| 18:55.57 | jpinx | tralala: as far as I am aware the upgrade doesn't remove anything backported or insatlled locally - I had similar stuff. |
| 18:56.19 | jpinx | tralala: lenny is *so* much better :) |
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| 18:56.53 | tralala | jpinx, :) |
| 18:57.31 | jpinx | tralala: I confess to having trouble setting up wifi on my ancient hardware, but wicd did it "out-of-the-box" |
| 18:57.59 | jpinx | but you have to get wicd yourself, it's not in lenny |
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| 18:58.29 | abrotman | you could ssb it |
| 18:58.49 | tralala | jpinx, this machine is wired |
| 18:58.59 | bartek- | Hi, quick question. I just installed Debian and decided to try the XFCE desktop env for the first time. When I boot my system up now, I get to the comman prompt. How do I start XFCE? The docs for it are loaded with 404's .. annoying |
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| 18:59.20 | bugjar | bartek : prolly `startx` |
| 18:59.23 | lehel | hello |
| 18:59.25 | bartek- | nope |
| 19:00.02 | petemc | bartek-: you could install gdm and you will get a graphical login |
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| 19:00.24 | bartek- | ah I found a doc on it |
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| 19:00.31 | jpinx | abrotman: I just added the repos for wicd from their own website and it worked fine with aptitude taking care of dependencies -- same for wine (latest version) |
| 19:00.36 | jelly-home | would expect gdm to be installed by default as part of xfce-desktop |
| 19:01.00 | jpinx | jelly-home: gdm seems to be included in xorg |
| 19:01.15 | bugjar | perhaps the local x conf file doesn 't point to xfce? |
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| 19:01.46 | hark | jpinx: also with xfce-desktop |
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| 19:03.09 | hark | oh, not with xorg |
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| 19:03.42 | lehel | i'm on lenny from few days ago, i read about the "root filesystem hanging stuff on boot", i made the changes in my /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/menu.lst - still hangs -- any other hints? |
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| 19:04.00 | jpinx | hmmm - interesting I got gdm after installing base only xorg and lxde - so it must be in lxde then as well |
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| 19:04.01 | jpinx | :( |
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| 19:04.38 | abrotman | jpinx: it's a recommends |
| 19:05.07 | jpinx | abrotman: then aptitude must have assumed I wanted it ;) |
| 19:05.23 | abrotman | you didn't tell aptitude not to install recommends |
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| 19:05.50 | dvs | suggests are not installed by default |
| 19:05.53 | jpinx | abrotman: possibly not - that was in the days before i had read man aptitude ;) |
| 19:06.01 | legalize` | is it possible to share folders with windows AND linux? |
| 19:06.08 | legalize` | with debian i mean |
| 19:06.15 | dvs | legalize`: FAT drive |
| 19:06.21 | jpinx | legalize`: what sort of share? |
| 19:06.38 | jpinx | legalize`: another partition? or another machine? |
| 19:06.44 | legalize` | other machines |
| 19:06.47 | JPT | samba is possible for networking stuff |
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| 19:06.49 | abrotman | legalize`: over the network? or on the same machine? |
| 19:06.55 | jpinx | legalize`: samba is for you |
| 19:07.06 | lehel | hm |
| 19:07.07 | bartek- | one more question. Im running lenny but when I apt-get install gdm it says it cant find it. Do I need to add to sources.list? If so, what is the best option? |
| 19:07.10 | legalize` | i know, i went to get it and it said not authenticated |
| 19:07.32 | legalize` | is it ok to get anyway? |
| 19:07.39 | jpinx | bartek-: first - you are strongly recommended to use aptitude - not apt-get |
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| 19:07.53 | bartek- | jpinx: alright |
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| 19:08.01 | tralala | bartek-, you seem to be missing the main archive in your sources |
| 19:08.07 | bartek- | Yes |
| 19:08.10 | abrotman | bartek-: put your sources.list in a pastebin |
| 19:08.21 | jpinx | bartek-: and you need to look at your sources.list |
| 19:08.54 | bartek- | Al my sources.list has is security.debian.org/ lenny/upates main (and then deb-src of same) and then volatile |
| 19:09.12 | bartek- | Cant pastebin it, talking here from another pc right now |
| 19:09.13 | \amethyst | bartek-: so you need an entry for lenny |
| 19:09.18 | \amethyst | !sources.list |
| 19:09.18 | dpkg | The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian lenny main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <apt-setup> <lenny security> <testing security> "man sources.list" and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
| 19:09.20 | jpinx | bartek-: pastebinit |
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| 19:09.53 | dvs | no contrib or non-free? |
| 19:10.01 | \amethyst | bartek-: e.g. deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian lenny main and a corresponding deb-src line |
| 19:10.23 | tralala | dvs, no evil is recommended by default |
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| 19:10.39 | dvs | evil? hahaha |
| 19:11.33 | legalize` | i was told yesterday to use lug.mtu.edu for the main |
| 19:12.01 | legalize` | is there actually a difference between all of them? |
| 19:12.10 | bartek- | thanks, so what is security.debian.org lenny/upates main in sources.list? I kin of assumed that was a primary repo |
| 19:12.11 | dvs | legalize`: location location location |
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| 19:12.27 | dvs | bartek-: no, security updates only |
| 19:12.37 | bartek- | ah, ok makes sense |
| 19:12.41 | tralala | bartek-, it's where service packes come from |
| 19:12.42 | abrotman | legalize`: given you're in germany .. i'd probably pick one more local |
| 19:12.53 | tralala | packs |
| 19:12.55 | dvs | tralala: service packs? THAT'S evil. ;-) |
| 19:13.13 | tralala | ;) |
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| 19:13.24 | legalize` | i'm in germany? |
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| 19:13.35 | abrotman | erm .. england .. sorry |
| 19:13.38 | abrotman | no? |
| 19:13.41 | legalize` | no |
| 19:13.47 | abrotman | just pick one from debian.org/mirrors/list that is close to you |
| 19:13.51 | legalize` | nyc |
| 19:13.59 | abrotman | IIRC there's a columbia one |
| 19:14.04 | DGnome | What group would my user have to belong to, to gain access to a scsi-attached scanner? |
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| 19:14.24 | dvs | DGnome: scanner? Just a guess. ;-) |
| 19:14.33 | bartek- | im still amazed debian so far has installed issue-free on a super old toshiba laptop, and i configured the network-based parts of the install through a wireless |
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| 19:14.44 | tralala | DGnome, the group of the scsi device node |
| 19:14.56 | jpinx | bartek-: how old your toshiba lappy? |
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| 19:15.06 | bartek- | hmm |
| 19:15.10 | jpinx | is using a T8000 |
| 19:15.13 | bartek- | 2000? |
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| 19:15.59 | bartek- | Mine is a Satellite A20 |
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| 19:16.37 | phobos_anomaly | the only issues i've had since installing debian is the graphics are slow. but thats to be expected when the system only has an intel 865g chip. |
| 19:17.10 | xingu | phobos_anomaly: what height/width/depth? |
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| 19:17.43 | phobos_anomaly | its running at 1280x1024 at 24 |
| 19:17.45 | s3a | is there such a thing as debian email? like something@debian.ca or .com or anything? |
| 19:18.08 | \amethyst | s3a: only for debian developers |
| 19:18.11 | tralala | s3a, debian developers get @debian.org |
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| 19:18.21 | xingu | phobos_anomaly: depending on your display - 16bpp may well *look* equivalent and lighten the load somewhat. |
| 19:18.31 | s3a | o :( well i guess thats something to look forward too lol |
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| 19:18.39 | phobos_anomaly | I was just thinking I should try it at 16 and see what happens |
| 19:18.52 | phobos_anomaly | any lower on the resolution and the monitor flickers |
| 19:18.56 | xingu | phobos_anomaly: i865-era panels for instance typically have a 12bit gamut regardless. ;) |
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| 19:19.16 | xingu | phobos_anomaly: if you're using a crt this doesn't apply of course. |
| 19:19.26 | anxiolytic | abrotman, nkuttler: hey either of you guys here? |
| 19:19.47 | phobos_anomaly | xingu: its a crt... nec accusync 70 to be exact |
| 19:19.53 | phobos_anomaly | prolly should upgrade it at some point |
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| 19:20.17 | abrotman | anxiolytic: no |
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| 19:20.54 | jpinx | bartek-: lenny runs fine on this old lappy, but I can't run vista (spit) ;) |
| 19:21.03 | anxiolytic | abrotman: remember the problem I had with libc yesterday? I backed everything up and then deleted /usr/lib/libc6.so.6 and installed it again using apt |
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| 19:21.12 | abrotman | anxiolytic: and it all worked fine? |
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| 19:21.16 | anxiolytic | abrotman: seems to be working perfectly |
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| 19:21.26 | abrotman | anxiolytic: glad to hear it .. did you yell at the other admins ? |
| 19:21.36 | anxiolytic | right now it's upgrading dozens of apps (since I was unable to for awhile) |
| 19:21.39 | xingu | phobos_anomaly: you may find that putting less pressure on the dac gives you a sharper display anyway; does a whiter-than-white to blacker-than-black transition bloom on your screen? :) |
| 19:21.45 | anxiolytic | not yet, but come Monday.. |
| 19:21.56 | DGnome | dvs: thanks, it was too simple for me to figure out :D |
| 19:22.03 | abrotman | anxiolytic: i fear for them :) |
| 19:22.08 | dvs | DGnome: no prob. |
| 19:22.11 | anxiolytic | abrotman: My main concern is in the long term, this wouldn't cause any problems right? |
| 19:22.14 | keith4_ | are "etch", "lenny", "squeeze", etc. valid choices for APT::Default-Release? or just "stable", "testing", "unstable", etc.? |
| 19:22.15 | phobos_anomaly | xingu: thats a negative. or at least if it has that feature, I have yet to find it |
| 19:22.24 | abrotman | anxiolytic: depends what else they've installed by hand |
| 19:22.40 | anxiolytic | abrotman: for the record, the packages I saw installed by hand were 'webmin' and swig |
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| 19:23.10 | jpinx | anxiolytic: maybe you could consider editing the allowed commands in their entries in sudoers |
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| 19:23.38 | abrotman | anxiolytic: eww .. webmin |
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| 19:24.21 | anxiolytic | I'm guessing it'll be a bitch to remove |
| 19:24.23 | jpinx | anxiolytic: if they are installing webmin and handing out access through that, lots of people will be effectively in as root ;) |
| 19:24.43 | anxiolytic | jpinx: yeah I cleared out sudoers last night |
| 19:24.56 | xingu | phobos_anomaly: it's worth an experiment anyway, there's certainly less lifting to do at 16bpp from the video card's perspective |
| 19:25.14 | dariooo | Hi, my box was compromized. The hacker installed a rootkit and change the attr of ls, ps, netstat, etc. Now I cannot reinstall coretuis, net-tools, etc. How I can do? |
| 19:25.19 | jpinx | anxiolytic: I can't remember the exact syntax, but you can allow certain commands for users in sudoers |
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| 19:25.37 | abrotman | dariooo: take the box offline |
| 19:25.55 | dariooo | abrotman: ok, than? I cannot format.. |
| 19:26.11 | dariooo | abrotman: i think the hacker used a bug of roundcube.. damn.. |
| 19:26.18 | anxiolytic | jpinx: I'll look into it. they really just need to manage apache though so I might not give sudo at all |
| 19:26.36 | abrotman | dariooo: that's fine .. still take it offline |
| 19:27.33 | abrotman | dariooo: you cannot trust the server anymore .. |
| 19:27.39 | jpinx | anxiolytic: you can manage apache by included files in it's config, and those included files can be in their own /home/user directory and can be edited by nano by them without any need for sudo |
| 19:28.26 | jpinx | anxiolytic: you only need to make an apache restart available to them |
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| 19:29.17 | dariooo | abrotman: dho :( |
| 19:29.39 | phobos_anomaly | xingu: time to see if it will accept 16 as the default depth. brb |
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| 19:30.01 | anxiolytic | jpinx: right now they were mainly editing/adding stuff in /etc/apache2/sites-available/ - but making this local would be perfect |
| 19:30.21 | jpinx | anxiolytic: apache supports includes - bind does not :( |
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| 19:30.49 | Kissaki | hey, using debian with ProFTPD on a ded machine. when I log in with ftp on any account, it takes ages to log in. Is there some kind of anti-spam/abuse waiting time? by default or configurable |
| 19:31.08 | xingu | looks at the bind "include" directive and rubs his eyes mystified |
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| 19:31.21 | stew | Kissaki: i'd guess its doing reverse dns and ident lookups |
| 19:31.41 | jpinx | xingu: does bind9 allow you to include local files? |
| 19:31.51 | jpinx | hasn't actually looked for a while |
| 19:31.57 | Kissaki | and that may take full 10 seconds? |
| 19:31.59 | Kissaki | each time? |
| 19:32.09 | xingu | jpinx: /etc/bind/named.conf: include "/etc/bind/named.conf.options"; |
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| 19:32.23 | phobos_anomaly | negative on that |
| 19:32.29 | jpinx | xingu: cool -- thanks :) |
| 19:32.49 | xingu | phobos_anomaly: save the Xorg.0.log somewhere? |
| 19:32.53 | abrotman | dariooo: please keep it in the channel |
| 19:33.07 | phobos_anomaly | should be in the /var/log |
| 19:33.10 | xingu | phobos_anomaly: I'd be pretty surprised if the server just *can't* do a 16bpp visual |
| 19:33.16 | dariooo | abrotman: do you think I cannot save the server?! |
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| 19:33.18 | phobos_anomaly | will check in a minute |
| 19:33.20 | xingu | phobos_anomaly: pastebin the failed attempt? :) |
| 19:33.24 | abrotman | dariooo: i think you should not |
| 19:33.26 | stew | Kissaki: perhaps. how long does it take for your machine to answer an ident request? |
| 19:33.36 | natschil | hello, how can I tell apt to ignore dependencies when removing a package? |
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| 19:33.50 | Kissaki | stew: no idea |
| 19:33.55 | xingu | Kissaki: check for ... PARANOID in /etc/hosts.{allow,deny} |
| 19:34.34 | stew | Kissaki: if you aren't running an identd on the machine you are ftping FROM, the ftpd might be waiting for a while before it times out |
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| 19:35.22 | Kissaki | xingu: no paranoid set, nothing in those files |
| 19:36.08 | Kissaki | so, how could I lower the timeout? it sucks waiting 10 seconds each time I want to upload a changed file again |
| 19:36.13 | stew | Kissaki: run "getent hosts 1.2.3.4" on the server where 1.2.3.4 is the ip address that you are ftping FROM. how long does it take to gen an answer? |
| 19:36.14 | xingu | Kissaki: http://www.proftpd.org/docs/faq/linked/faq-ch4.html#AEN341 |
| 19:36.41 | simonrvn | hi |
| 19:36.43 | stew | ^gen^get |
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| 19:37.36 | Kissaki | stew: well, not half a second |
| 19:38.01 | stew | Kissaki: then i'd guess ident |
| 19:38.27 | Kissaki | so it's checking for an ident on my pc and waits for timeout? |
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| 19:39.16 | stew | Kissaki: maybe. try "telnet 1.2.3.4 auth" where 1.2.3.4 is the IP of the client. how long does it take to either connect or fail to connect? |
| 19:39.42 | Kissaki | why should I keep this on? more info about ppl login in? after all it will still accept me without an identd |
| 19:39.56 | stew | Kissaki: you shouldn't. ident is stupid |
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| 19:40.14 | xingu | !beer stew |
| 19:40.14 | dpkg | pulls out a nicely refined Bornem Tripple for stew |
| 19:40.20 | stew | ooh |
| 19:40.50 | Kissaki | with telnet it's still trying after 20 secs |
| 19:40.52 | Kissaki | still waiting |
| 19:41.11 | Kissaki | you mean telnet from server to client (me) right? |
| 19:41.40 | Kissaki | stew: ok, I'll disable ident then and see if that helps. thank you |
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| 19:41.56 | simonrvn | these days, yeh, ident is pretty much useless, but i still use it for simple things. |
| 19:42.00 | Kissaki | it won't ever cancel the telnet |
| 19:42.01 | xingu | rfc1413 ought to be flung down a pit along with every piece of code that speaks it |
| 19:42.36 | simonrvn | !rfc 1413 |
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| 19:42.39 | Kissaki | ident = to see which user of a machine is the one connecting/using whatever, right? |
| 19:42.41 | simonrvn | !rfc1413 |
| 19:42.41 | dpkg | it has been said that rfc1413 is Identification Protocol. M. StJohns. January 1993. (Format: TXT=16291 bytes) (Obsoletes RFC931) (Status: PROPOSED STANDARD) |
| 19:43.07 | stew | Kissaki: its "ask another machine for a random string that can't be trusted to actually mean anything" |
| 19:43.21 | Kissaki | oO |
| 19:43.23 | xingu | it's almost as useless as "rwho" |
| 19:43.31 | xingu | and ruptime for that matter |
| 19:43.35 | xingu | in fact pretty much r* |
| 19:43.41 | Kissaki | whatever that is :P |
| 19:44.12 | phobos_anomaly | xingu: http://pastebin.ca/1350405 for the error, removed the depth 16 from xorg.conf and it starts back up |
| 19:44.18 | Kissaki | uh, now that's something fast again, thank you very much |
| 19:44.43 | xingu | phobos_anomaly: oh, that's easy. :) |
| 19:45.24 | xingu | phobos_anomaly: Depth is only valid in a Display subsection; in a Screen section, try DefaultDepth |
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| 19:45.48 | phobos_anomaly | xingu: tried that the first time. bombed out. I'll try it again |
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| 19:46.09 | xingu | phobos_anomaly: configure both; in screen, use defaultdepth, and in display, use depth |
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| 19:46.25 | dominiq | hello folks |
| 19:46.33 | dominiq | how do you solve this kind of errors? |
| 19:46.34 | dominiq | W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs: |
| 19:46.35 | dominiq | 4D270D06F42584E6 |
| 19:46.48 | dominiq | it's what apt-get just told me when i tried to add debian-multimedia rep |
| 19:46.58 | simonrvn | you fetch it, and install it to apt-key |
| 19:47.12 | simonrvn | !apt-key 4D270D06F42584E6 |
| 19:47.12 | dpkg | gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4D270D06F42584E6 ; gpg --export 4D270D06F42584E6 | sudo apt-key add - |
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| 19:47.23 | dominiq | oh thank you so much simonrvn |
| 19:47.29 | dominiq | exactly what i needed |
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| 19:47.58 | xingu | the really dumb thing is that tls makes identd unnecessary (require client certs), and proftpd speaks it. |
| 19:48.19 | phobos_anomaly | xingu: you were right, I put it under the monitor section, thanx for pointing that out |
| 19:48.35 | xingu | cool bananas |
| 19:49.11 | dominiq | simonrvn all went smooth and nice.. thanks alot again! |
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| 19:49.50 | simonrvn | yeh |
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| 19:50.15 | izik | hi, i am trying to compile some opengl application that i am working on, and it use pbuffer, the thing is that pbuffer need glx version 1.3 and above, while it look like the x server version in debian 5.0 is 1.2, what could i do about it'? would moving to testing fix it |
| 19:50.15 | izik | ? |
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| 19:50.49 | evilgenius | Hello |
| 19:50.52 | mythomaniac | has the new gnome moved to squeeze yet? |
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| 19:51.00 | abrotman | mythomaniac: use packages.debian.org to see |
| 19:51.13 | mythomaniac | good idea abrotman |
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| 19:51.43 | evilgenius | Just wanted to be sure before i update my debian server, Change src list to lenny, then apt-get update , upgrade , dist-upgrade ? |
| 19:52.04 | mythomaniac | nope :/ |
| 19:52.13 | abrotman | !tell evilgenius about etch->lenny |
| 19:52.20 | dominiq | mencoder is coming to the box near me.. can't wait :> |
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| 19:52.59 | evilgenius | thanks man |
| 19:53.28 | dominiq | yess |
| 19:53.29 | dominiq | mencoder |
| 19:53.29 | dominiq | MEncoder dev-SVN-r26940 (C) 2000-2008 MPlayer Team |
| 19:53.29 | dominiq | CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU L5335 @ 2.00GHz (Family: 6, Model: 15, Stepping: 11) |
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| 19:53.35 | dominiq | sorry. |
| 19:53.41 | dominiq | got too excited :) |
| 19:53.56 | mavez | ownd |
| 19:54.00 | dominiq | . |
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| 19:55.23 | phobos_anomaly | feels a twinge of jealousy at dominiq for having a Xeon while he only has a Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.80GHz with cache size : 256 KB |
| 19:55.29 | evilgenius | i got Plesk in src list they don't seem to have lenny yet and backports. shall i comment them out |
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| 19:56.19 | xingu | you kids with your gigahertz this and gigabytes that |
| 19:58.26 | simonrvn | model name : AMD Athlon(tm) Processor cpu MHz : 908.989 |
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| 19:59.44 | phobos_anomaly | simonrvn: don't feel bad, I just upgraded to this from a p2 450 a month or so ago |
| 19:59.59 | simonrvn | i don't. i rather like it. |
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| 20:02.00 | simonrvn | i was running a p3 for a time. now that was a bit of a pita. |
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| 20:03.58 | newsense | i just got an amd athhlon x2 2.70ghz, upgraded from a p4 2.60ghz, the p4 was a great processor IMHO, only upgraded to get a better onboard gpu really |
| 20:04.00 | lxsameer | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:04.04 | jelly-home | evilgenius: are you using plesk? |
| 20:04.16 | evilgenius | yes |
| 20:04.34 | jelly-home | evilgenius: I wouldn't upgrade the system then |
| 20:04.42 | evilgenius | why/ |
| 20:05.05 | jelly-home | evilgenius: in short, things might break |
| 20:05.07 | dvs | newsense: I upgrade from a P4 2.6GHz as well. But it had AGP which is about to go extinct |
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| 20:05.29 | evilgenius | i'll take the leap of faith. ;) |
| 20:05.35 | jelly-home | evilgenius: wait for your vendor to say that lenny is supported |
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| 20:05.57 | jelly-home | well, if you want to keep your customers that is. |
| 20:06.01 | newsense | yeah thats why i upgraded, i had only agp, and i figured a better board with onboard nvidia 8200 gpu would do fine and i got the pcie now for future upgrades |
| 20:06.06 | xingu | I upgraded from a piii/750 to a t7200 and haven't looked back. :) |
| 20:06.20 | vasco | hello i am drawing a network map do you know where i can find a lot png of computers, server, firewall, etc |
| 20:06.22 | vasco | ? |
| 20:07.07 | evilgenius | ok.. i'm leaving it |
| 20:07.14 | evilgenius | i'll give it another month |
| 20:07.47 | newsense | only paid 200 us dollars for the motherboard 2gigs of ddr2 1066(didnt know the 7000 series were the only am2 cpu's to support it) and the 2.70ghz athlon x2 cpu |
| 20:08.17 | xingu | my wallet will be disinterred again when there's a similar step change in memory bandwidth on the market; or possibly before if the netbook guys can get a 802.11n terminal that does mp4 and can run a month or so between charges |
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| 20:08.47 | evilgenius | jelly-home, Thanks .. if you had posted 1 minute later i was taking the dive |
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| 20:09.03 | Thomaschaaf | I am looking for a way to use exchange server on debian without having an imap client with it |
| 20:09.04 | Sadneophyte | hi I just installed a test debian 5.0 installation on my suse box. LOVE IT! After installation the debian grub debian would was incorrectly configured. By changing the 'root (hdX,X) both my suse and debian system would boot. After reboting my suse system I reinstalled their grub:(GNU GRUB 0.97). Now the suse grub cannot read the debian partition, it identifies it as a ext2fs, partition type 0x83, but cannot decend into it's |
| 20:09.04 | Sadneophyte | directories with 'find.' does anyone know why this would happen? |
| 20:09.12 | Sadneophyte | sorry, spammy... |
| 20:09.16 | Pryon | vasco: you might try xfig or inkscape |
| 20:09.26 | Thomaschaaf | I saw open xchange but it brings an imap server withit |
| 20:10.09 | xingu | Thomaschaaf: webmail works passably well. ;) |
| 20:10.18 | abrotman | Thomaschaaf: you want an exchange client? i believe there's a plugin for evolution |
| 20:10.23 | xingu | Thomaschaaf: there was also an exchange connector for evolution at one point |
| 20:10.30 | xingu | wot abrotman said. |
| 20:10.42 | abrotman | judd: info evolution-exchange --release lenny |
| 20:10.43 | judd | abrotman: evolution-exchange (gnome): is optional; Version: 2.22.3.dfsg-1; Size: 704.0k; Installed: 3452k -- Exchange plugin for the Evolution groupware suite |
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| 20:10.52 | abrotman | never used it myself |
| 20:10.58 | Thomaschaaf | I want to use outlook and google sync only syncs the on calendar not the rest |
| 20:11.21 | Thomaschaaf | but I want to use it for our team |
| 20:11.35 | Thomaschaaf | so everyone knows who has what appointments |
| 20:12.02 | icebrain | Sadneophyte: I thought Lenny's default fs was ext3 :? |
| 20:12.57 | Sadneophyte | icebrain I thought ext2fs was ext3 |
| 20:13.43 | Sadneophyte | icebrain just that ext3 isn't necissarily ext2fs... ie ext3 is just a addition to ext2fs |
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| 20:14.02 | SamiusPrime | hi just wondering something, which is newer, lenny or etch.. I'm using etch at the moment... what happens if I change my sources.list to the lenny stuff ? |
| 20:14.16 | Eulex | SamiusPrime, lenny is newer |
| 20:14.17 | SamiusPrime | or do I need to reinstall everything? |
| 20:14.28 | Eulex | SamiusPrime, for upgrading, read the release notes |
| 20:14.39 | jpinx | !tell SamiusPrime about etch->lenny |
| 20:14.41 | SamiusPrime | k |
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| 20:15.13 | SamiusPrime | ta |
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| 20:16.18 | Sadneophyte | icebrain and it is not like grub can't detect it, it just can't read it... is there anything new in the debian ext2 (ext3)which would not be supported by an older grub (specifically 0.97) - from suse 10.3 ? |
| 20:17.42 | cptnoreo | I am compiling a source package, and setting LDFLAGS. yet dpkg-buildpackage does not seem to be using LDFLAGS from the enviroment |
| 20:19.18 | cheshair | rhythmbox won't install on my sid because of some broken dependencies (libmtp7 is missing). any hints? |
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| 20:21.19 | dmoerner | cheshair, wait |
| 20:21.22 | phobos_anomaly | cheshair: seach google for the source of the dep, compile it, and install it? |
| 20:22.43 | cheshair | dmoerner and phobos_anomaly: thank you very much to both of you |
| 20:23.21 | evilgenius | with etch in src list and executing aptitude dist-upgrade .. My apache2 is dead |
| 20:23.44 | dmoerner | cheshair, since you did me the honor of a thank you, i will elaborate :). Dependency problems are normal in sid. they just made the libmtp7 -> libmpt8 transition. |
| 20:23.45 | abrotman | cheshair: do not compile it .. things are sometimes broken in sid .. if you can't handle that, then sid is not for you |
| 20:23.56 | dmoerner | rhythmbox has not been reuploaded to fix this yet |
| 20:24.04 | cptnoreo | evilgenius: what are going to and from |
| 20:24.45 | cheshair | dmoerner: i see, perfectly reasonable, i'll wait (or temporarily build from source) |
| 20:24.48 | jpinx | I have only just noticed that I am logged in twice, but I didn't do that. How do I tell which one of me to kill? |
| 20:24.51 | cptnoreo | evilgenius: are you upgrading to lenny? |
| 20:25.05 | evilgenius | yes but not anymore since plesk doesn't work |
| 20:25.18 | dmoerner | cheshair, the way to temporarily fix this problem is to install libmtp7 from testing |
| 20:25.27 | jpinx | !tell evilgenius about etch->lenny |
| 20:25.37 | abrotman | or not use sid to begin with |
| 20:25.56 | evilgenius | what i did was (with src still etch ) upgrade & dist-upgrade as the dpkg says "Ensure your Etch installation is up to date (aptitude update; aptitude dist-upgrade" |
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| 20:26.31 | dmoerner | cheshair, or apply this patch to rhythmbox, and recompile: http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-release@lists.debian.org/msg30170.html |
| 20:26.40 | cptnoreo | evilgenius: have you moved to all lenny apt sources |
| 20:27.00 | evilgenius | i didn't change src, i was about to when the guy said plesk doesn't work |
| 20:27.11 | evilgenius | so lenny never got into src. |
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| 20:27.50 | gparent | hey guys I have this problem with one of my accounts |
| 20:27.51 | cheshair | dmoerner: so kind of you! |
| 20:28.04 | gparent | when I ssh to certain accounts on my box, sometimes autocompletion will not work |
| 20:28.11 | gparent | I'll type "cp beginningofafilename", hit tab |
| 20:28.22 | cheshair | dmoerner: i'll try to get libmtp7 from testing... right |
| 20:28.31 | dmoerner | cheshair, yes, that is the simple solution |
| 20:28.32 | cptnoreo | evilgenius: so you ran a dist upgrade without telling it what the next dist is? |
| 20:28.33 | gparent | cp fac-sh: <( compgen -d -- 'fac' ): No such file or directory |
| 20:28.41 | gparent | in this case I typed "cp fac" then hit tab |
| 20:28.59 | gparent | whenever that happens I can still enter input, it doesn't return to a bash prompt until I hit Ctrl-C |
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| 20:29.02 | evilgenius | yes, dist upgrade while src was on etch .. (etch > etch) |
| 20:30.10 | jpinx | evilgenius: are you wanting to upgrade to lenny or fix apache? |
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| 20:30.48 | jpinx | evilgenius: I have no idea what the issue is with plesk, but you maybe need to resolve that first |
| 20:30.50 | evilgenius | apache, i guess but what could possibly go wrong with etch > etch |
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| 20:31.25 | jpinx | evilgenius: have you done the obvious restart of apache? |
| 20:31.31 | phobos_anomaly | evilgenius: possibly go wrong.... I muttered those same words last time i tried to install ubuntu |
| 20:31.45 | evilgenius | lol, i rebooted the server after that |
| 20:31.55 | jpinx | !smite phobos_anomaly with ubuntu |
| 20:31.55 | dpkg | smites phobos_anomaly with ubuntu with a plague of punctuation characters |
| 20:32.21 | phobos_anomaly | ummm ok |
| 20:32.28 | evilgenius | now apache gives error on line 195 ( and line 195 says "/etc/apache2/conf.d" |
| 20:32.31 | jpinx | evilgenius: did you restart apache? |
| 20:32.36 | evilgenius | yes |
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| 20:33.22 | jpinx | evilgenius: it might have reverted to defaults, maybe you need to ask in #apache |
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| 20:33.59 | cptnoreo | evilgenius: how about the odvious, does it exist, and is it a directory? |
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| 20:34.07 | badcfe | netstat shows inetd at udp:518 but when i do ytalk cso@localhost#pts/6 then cso at pts/6 doesnt get messaged about request. he has mesg is y. what could be wrong? |
| 20:34.10 | evilgenius | yes yes it does mate, i'm not that dumb |
| 20:34.10 | badcfe | inetd.conf has existing /usr/sbin/in.ntalkd configured at 518 |
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| 20:34.39 | cptnoreo | eveilgenius: I have made simmilar errors that is all |
| 20:34.53 | rafuch0 | hi guys .... i bought a tv card for my pc and connect the thing install tvtime .... |
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| 20:34.56 | badcfe | i have package openbsd-inetd and ytalk installed |
| 20:35.02 | badcfe | using etch |
| 20:35.03 | evilgenius | well im sure it didn't revert to defaults. |
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| 20:35.08 | rafuch0 | and the reception is flawless but i have no sound |
| 20:35.15 | badcfe | sorry, *lenny* |
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| 20:36.04 | initq | 00:07.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (rev 11) |
| 20:36.07 | rafuch0 | i have try lot things .... whit no success ... |
| 20:36.08 | cptnoreo | evilgenius: does it say what type of error, or just that there is one |
| 20:36.37 | cheshair | dmoerner: it worked as smooth as a billiard table! libmtp7 from testing and rhythmbox from sid :-) i'm in love with this o.s., definitely! |
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| 20:36.50 | ionte | hi. need help! i installed debian lenny on a IBM xSeries 100 server that has been running debian 4.0 for a couple of years without problem. but now it can't bring up the builtin broadcom 5721 network card. any ideas? |
| 20:37.00 | badcfe | wooops, /usr/sbin/in.ntalkd soesnt exist where do i get it? |
| 20:37.06 | rafuch0 | dmeseg shows video registered vbi registered but i think that for tv card to produce sound must appear MIXER registered |
| 20:37.14 | evilgenius | cptnoreo, http://apache.pastebin.ca/1350440 |
| 20:37.41 | abrotman | ionte: isn't there firmware for those ? |
| 20:38.21 | ionte | abrotman: i can't remember me installing any special firmware on the last install. and can't find any information about it on the net either |
| 20:38.26 | xingu | abrotman: just to make it doubly interesting I think the driver's been swizzled about too; b43 vs b43-legacy and all that rot. |
| 20:38.36 | rafuch0 | the tv card i have is Phillips Semiconductor SAA7131/33/135 VIDeo recorder |
| 20:38.45 | xingu | ionte: what's the pci vendor/device id? |
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| 20:39.03 | abrotman | xingu: uhm .. not a wifi card |
| 20:39.19 | cptnoreo | evilgenius:what about that last file |
| 20:39.24 | evilgenius | uh...Very Sorry for trouble.. i got it sorted it was just a wrong entry in the plesk config file , my mistake |
| 20:39.29 | abrotman | ionte: lspci -nn .. what is the pciid at the end of the line ? |
| 20:39.31 | xingu | abrotman: funny feeling the same has happened to the NIC's |
| 20:39.40 | ionte | hm, what package is lspci in? it's not installed |
| 20:39.50 | abrotman | xingu: i think it's a tg3, and they removed the firmware blobby bits |
| 20:39.59 | abrotman | ionte: pciutils |
| 20:40.04 | ionte | abrotman: ok |
| 20:40.08 | evilgenius | normally it would make a httpd.include but this time it didn't for the latest domain i entered earlier today..... sorry guys .. |
| 20:40.09 | rafuch0 | i connect the tv card trouh cable selct to the mother board to AUX sound and still no sound y change the conf of tv time to mixer/dev/mixer:line and line1 also try cd pcm ...nothing seems to work |
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| 20:40.50 | ionte | abrotman, xingu: strange, it doesn't appear in the output |
| 20:41.08 | abrotman | output of what? it's a pci card right ? |
| 20:41.14 | ionte | lspci -nn |
| 20:41.19 | rafuch0 | i do i know aht options can parse to a module.. i men if i do modprobe saa7134-alsa optins=?? |
| 20:41.26 | ionte | abrotman: it's on the motherboard |
| 20:41.32 | abrotman | ionte: did you blow it up? |
| 20:41.43 | ionte | abrotman: hopefully not :) |
| 20:41.43 | jpinx | evilgenius: glad you that sorted, now follow the detailed instructions for etch->lenny |
| 20:42.02 | xingu | abrotman: grep and kernel source says you're right (tg3) |
| 20:42.09 | ionte | abrotman: what i did do though was install on another pc, then move the new harddrive to the old server |
| 20:42.26 | evilgenius | yep. |
| 20:42.27 | abrotman | xingu: i get a cookie?! |
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| 20:42.39 | abrotman | ionte: short answer .. get a non-crappy nick |
| 20:42.40 | abrotman | nic |
| 20:43.00 | ionte | abrotman: perhaps, but it has been running for years on previous debian releases ... |
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| 20:43.13 | abrotman | ionte: i'm aware of this .. they removed the firmware |
| 20:43.19 | ionte | uhh |
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| 20:43.28 | themill | even without the firmware it would be visible in lspci |
| 20:43.48 | abrotman | http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/FAQ#head-d2b370740516f1e113719a733d9ecb324f61ff4f |
| 20:44.19 | abrotman | says it shuld work with most cards regardless |
| 20:44.28 | abrotman | but if it's not showing up in lspci .. there's something else wrong |
| 20:44.32 | ionte | abrotman: i've only got textmode/lynx, .. |
| 20:44.41 | abrotman | lynx can surf the web! |
| 20:44.47 | xingu | ionte: check the obvious - make sure the card's seated properly |
| 20:44.53 | ionte | abrotman: yes, but not so good at copy/paste |
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| 20:45.07 | ionte | xingu: it's on the motherboard! |
| 20:45.08 | abrotman | xingu: on board |
| 20:45.11 | xingu | heh |
| 20:45.16 | abrotman | ionte: make sure it's enabled in the bios |
| 20:45.34 | ionte | abrotman: yep, i will double check that now. thanks. |
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| 20:46.12 | arooni-mobile | is there any way from recovering from a dropped mysql database? |
| 20:46.18 | arooni-mobile | it was myisam |
| 20:46.18 | abrotman | put it back |
| 20:46.23 | arooni-mobile | um no backups |
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| 20:47.00 | arooni-mobile | is there a way to recover from file store |
| 20:47.34 | jelly-home | arooni-mobile: filesystem backups? |
| 20:47.42 | abrotman | arooni-mobile: you probably want to ask #mysql |
| 20:47.50 | arooni-mobile | they said only file system backup |
| 20:47.55 | arooni-mobile | i mean file system recovery |
| 20:47.56 | arooni-mobile | from OS |
| 20:47.58 | keith4_ | how do I find out what packages, if any, have been installed from etch-backports? |
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| 20:48.38 | abrotman | !tell keith4_ about which repo |
| 20:48.39 | dominiq | hope you won't kill me for this question - is there any way to leech files from redtube? i'm looking for console tool just like the one for youtube or similar |
| 20:48.41 | jelly-home | arooni-mobile: yes, either restore of files in /var/lib/mysql/databasename, or from a dump |
| 20:48.55 | jelly-home | arooni-mobile: do you have any of those? |
| 20:49.08 | arooni-mobile | i dont have a dump, and i didnt copy any files form /var/lib/mysql/ |
| 20:49.11 | arooni-mobile | so i guess i'm hosed |
| 20:49.13 | arooni-mobile | that was dumb |
| 20:49.17 | jelly-home | yes. |
| 20:49.34 | xingu | I think the word is "educational" |
| 20:49.53 | keith4_ | thanks abrotman |
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| 20:53.44 | phobos_anomaly | i'm disappointed... no kernel update for squeeze |
| 20:53.57 | phobos_anomaly | at least not one that showing up in the list to be updated/installed |
| 20:54.23 | abrotman | be patient .. jeez |
| 20:54.30 | phobos_anomaly | lol |
| 20:54.36 | jelly-home | phobos_anomaly: is there a security issue? |
| 20:54.44 | valdyn | phobos_anomaly: 10 days |
| 20:54.47 | phobos_anomaly | jelly-home: not that I know of |
| 20:54.52 | keith4_ | you could backport 2.6.28 from sid |
| 20:54.58 | jelly-home | phobos_anomaly: so, what's the problem? |
| 20:55.14 | phobos_anomaly | jelly-home: nothing really, just making conversation. |
| 20:55.25 | abrotman | sounds like whining |
| 20:55.37 | phobos_anomaly | abrotman: my appologies if it did |
| 20:55.40 | jelly-home | I'm disappointed in your choice of a conversation starter. |
| 20:55.55 | jelly-home | and the channel used, to |
| 20:56.30 | phobos_anomaly | jelly-home: and the channel used, to? |
| 20:56.38 | jelly-home | too* |
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| 20:57.14 | lxsameer | when i try to mount a nfs shared folder i get a permission denied bud permission of that folder is 777 |
| 20:57.38 | phobos_anomaly | lxsameer: have you tried 0745 for permissions? |
| 20:58.23 | jelly-home | lxsameer: does "showmount -e nfs-server-name" list available mountpoints, from that same client? |
| 20:58.40 | lxsameer | phobos_anomaly: yeah , nothing changed |
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| 21:01.38 | lxsameer | jelly-home: the showmount command show me a folder that i comment that in /etc/exports but the folder i want is not shown |
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| 21:02.21 | jelly-home | lxsameer: perhaps you forgot to /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server reload |
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| 21:06.06 | lxsameer | jelly-home: i do as you told i now the shared folder are correctly shown but still at mount time i get permission denied |
| 21:06.28 | ionte | abrotman: i'm back. i tried a soft restore of the bios, no help. then i tried with a reset jumper on the motherboard, and then suddenly i've got the broadcom in lspci, and i can configure it |
| 21:06.47 | abrotman | ionte: weird |
| 21:06.48 | ionte | abrotman: but now the other ethernet card is not configurable |
| 21:06.55 | abrotman | ionte: other? |
| 21:06.56 | ionte | abrotman: and they've been switched |
| 21:07.01 | jelly-home | lxsameer: are other nfs clients able to mount anything from that nfs server? |
| 21:07.07 | ionte | abrotman: i have two ethernet (wan + lan) |
| 21:07.27 | lxsameer | jelly-home: i just have two computer |
| 21:07.35 | abrotman | wlan and lan ? or two 10/100 NICs ? |
| 21:08.00 | HeXiLeD | im looking a tool that allows me to interact with bios settings . any recommendation ? |
| 21:08.18 | ionte | abrotman: two 10/100 |
| 21:08.32 | abrotman | ionte: both broadcom ? |
| 21:08.40 | ionte | abrotman: nope, the other is an intel one |
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| 21:08.50 | abrotman | but they both don't show up in lspci ? |
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| 21:09.20 | ionte | abrotman: now they both show up! but i can't bring the intel one up. |
| 21:09.30 | ionte | ifconfig says device not found |
| 21:09.50 | abrotman | ionte: you might want to look at your z70 in /etc/udev/udev.d/ or wherever they've moved it to |
| 21:10.08 | ionte | abrotman: could this have to do that i prepared the install on another pc? |
| 21:10.18 | ionte | and then just moved the harddrive |
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| 21:10.41 | abrotman | look in that file .. see how many are defined |
| 21:11.06 | ionte | abrotman: it's not available |
| 21:11.17 | jelly-home | lxsameer: egrep '^(mountd|rstatd):' /etc/hosts.allow ? |
| 21:11.20 | mxmx | hmm |
| 21:11.23 | ionte | in /etc/udev i have rules.d, links.conf and udev.conf |
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| 21:11.26 | mxmx | how come naco -w /etc/fstab doesnt work in my debian? |
| 21:11.42 | abrotman | ionte: /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules |
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| 21:11.52 | dusty | Hey guys, how do I get normal system messages stuff that gets sent to root e.g. cron errors etc to be sent to a specific email address instead? |
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| 21:12.00 | lxsameer | jelly-home: nothing in server |
| 21:12.02 | ionte | abrotman: ah, there's three defined |
| 21:12.10 | ionte | abrotman: regenerate it somehow? |
| 21:12.13 | abrotman | ionte: you can clear out the file if you want .. or name them as you want |
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| 21:12.33 | abrotman | dusty: root's mail should already be going to a regular user |
| 21:12.45 | ionte | abrotman: i see they are both named eth1! |
| 21:12.50 | mxmx | ? naco |
| 21:12.52 | ionte | that's probably it |
| 21:12.54 | mxmx | anyone? |
| 21:13.00 | abrotman | mxmx: you mean nano ? |
| 21:13.07 | mxmx | hmm |
| 21:13.07 | valdyn | dusty: read /etc/aliases to see where its going right now |
| 21:13.08 | mxmx | yeah |
| 21:13.10 | jelly-home | lxsameer: you need to add all the clients there for mountd (and maybe rstatd) service |
| 21:13.21 | mxmx | i need to ad a line to taht file |
| 21:13.26 | ionte | rebooting.. |
| 21:13.35 | mxmx | my host sent me a pdf with the instructions and it says "naco" |
| 21:13.52 | valdyn | mxmx: he means nano |
| 21:14.05 | abrotman | or it's some awful nano/pico hybrid :) |
| 21:14.37 | jelly-home | nacho? |
| 21:14.53 | abrotman | that's a kernel? |
| 21:15.26 | abrotman | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_Another_Completely_Heuristic_Operating_System |
| 21:15.31 | jelly-home | lxsameer: or simple (and possibly unsafe) "mountd: ALL" and "rstatd: ALL" lines |
| 21:15.47 | jelly-home | abrotman: no, that's food |
| 21:15.47 | lxsameer | jelly-home: i put ALL:ALL there but i still have problem |
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| 21:18.33 | jelly-home | lxsameer: dunno then, check your /var/log/daemon.log |
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| 21:19.24 | abrotman | ionte: all better? |
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| 21:21.14 | lxsameer | jelly-home: nothing is there |
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| 21:21.38 | jelly-home | lxsameer: really? the file is empty? |
| 21:22.06 | jelly-home | lxsameer: which debian release are you using on the server? |
| 21:22.07 | lxsameer | jelly-home: no i mean nothing about my problem |
| 21:22.50 | bolt | from one of my machines, when I ssh to my server, the ssh banner (not motd, the Banner in sshd_config) has its backslashes escaped (\ is drawn as \\). there is some ascii art in the banner, which gets all screwed up by this. what could be wrong? tested rxvt, xfce4-terminal and xterm. all do this on the current box, on the two others they don't. UTF-8 locale on all, $TERM set correctly. |
| 21:23.07 | bolt | bah. i'm about to give up on this. can't find info anywhere |
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| 21:28.31 | eshat | Hi all,... I hope there is a bluetooth specialist here,... |
| 21:29.23 | eshat | I want to use my PC's speakers while playing music on my phone,... on windows I can connect through bluetooth as headphones, is this also possible with bluez ? |
| 21:29.30 | eshat | anyone here ? |
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| 21:30.31 | eshat | did I misspell debian, or why is nobody active here ??? |
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| 21:30.38 | epsilon | so phone -> bluetooth -> Linux -> wired speaker? |
| 21:30.53 | eshat | epsilon: right, dude,... damn I thought I was alone here ;) |
| 21:31.01 | epsilon | dude, we don't monitor 24/7 and answer within 60sec |
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| 21:31.21 | epsilon | (usualy) |
| 21:31.30 | eshat | epsilon: I do not mean to answer my question, I just read nothing and that was scary here in #debian |
| 21:31.54 | epsilon | but good Q... I guess you have to access on the file on the phone via bluetooth and play it on Linux |
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| 21:32.10 | mxmx | how do I Create 1000MB file for my/tmp partition. |
| 21:32.19 | epsilon | playing already on phone and pass-through Linux... dunno never tried that way |
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| 21:32.35 | eshat | epsilon: I think it should be possible |
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| 21:32.57 | eshat | epsilon: maybe you can check something on your machine for me,... do you use kde,gnome,...? |
| 21:32.57 | jelly-home | mxmx: a file... for your partition? |
| 21:33.10 | mxmx | yeah i am trying to secure my tmp firectgory to avoid exploits |
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| 21:33.16 | mxmx | *directory |
| 21:33.31 | epsilon | dd if=/dev/urandom of=/tmp/1000MB bs=1048576 count=1024 (kinda) |
| 21:33.54 | mxmx | hmmm |
| 21:33.57 | jelly-home | mxmx: what epsilon said, except /dev/zero instead of /dev/urandom |
| 21:33.57 | mxmx | i adh tried dd if=/dev/zero of=tmpMnt bs=1024 count=1000000 |
| 21:34.17 | jelly-home | mxmx: too low a bs will make it run very slowly |
| 21:34.20 | mxmx | then ige t the folloring message: dd: writing `tmpMnt': No space left on device |
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| 21:34.38 | epsilon | whatever bs x count must be size you want (and remember, 1024, not 1000) |
| 21:34.56 | eshat | mxmx: then there is no space left on your tmp partition |
| 21:34.58 | epsilon | eshat: no Bluetooth on that host |
| 21:35.08 | eshat | epsilon: thanks anyway |
| 21:35.08 | jelly-home | mxmx: "df -h ." ... did you fill up your filesystem? |
| 21:35.08 | mxmx | how do i make space? |
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| 21:35.25 | mxmx | not thati know of |
| 21:35.42 | ofl_ | how can i see the gpg keys ids or apt-key s ids ? |
| 21:35.44 | eshat | mxmx: delete files,... format,... bur you sound as if you do not know what you are doing |
| 21:35.57 | mxmx | i dont , and i really dont wnan format |
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| 21:36.21 | jelly-home | mxmx: paste the output of that command. |
| 21:36.25 | eshat | mxmx check with df -h how much space is left on tmp or / |
| 21:36.25 | dusty | abrotman, valdyn : i mean i want it to gotop an external mail account.. |
| 21:36.27 | mxmx | df -h? |
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| 21:36.35 | jelly-home | mxmx: yes. |
| 21:36.35 | eshat | yes |
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| 21:36.42 | abrotman | dusty: so set it up that way |
| 21:36.54 | mxmx | Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on |
| 21:36.54 | mxmx | udev 10M 10M 0 100% /dev |
| 21:36.55 | mxmx | hnnn |
| 21:37.09 | dusty | how ? |
| 21:37.20 | jelly-home | mxmx: you filled up your /dev. |
| 21:37.36 | lxsameer | what is the ftp command for uploading a directory? |
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| 21:37.52 | epsilon | there isnt |
| 21:37.54 | eshat | mxmx: maybe a "/etc/init.d/udev restart" could help, otherwise I would restart the machine |
| 21:37.58 | jelly-home | mxmx: create that file on a real filesystem with a physical media backend |
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| 21:38.09 | epsilon | only meta command on client if supprted: mirror, mput |
| 21:38.18 | mxmx | eshat i restared it a few mins ago |
| 21:38.20 | jelly-home | eshat: he just filled up that tmpfs |
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| 21:38.31 | eshat | yeah I see |
| 21:38.37 | jelly-home | mxmx: delete yor large file from /dev |
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| 21:39.06 | mxmx | 1 sec |
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| 21:39.47 | mxmx | tmpmnt 10,0000 |
| 21:40.00 | jelly-home | mxmx: what is your real plan with /tmp, what are you trying to secure against and how are you planning to do it? |
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| 21:40.07 | mxmx | er, 10,432, 412 |
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| 21:40.27 | mxmx | jelly i am recreting the tmp |
| 21:40.34 | jelly-home | mxmx: delete it, don't show use the size |
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| 21:40.57 | mxmx | well firsdt make teh aprtition, then make ane xtendd fiel system for teh tmpmnt |
| 21:40.57 | rocko | how well does the powerpc version of debian work on the xbox 360 ? |
| 21:41.04 | mxmx | back up curent tmp |
| 21:41.27 | jelly-home | mxmx: you're nearly unreadable there. |
| 21:41.33 | eshat | rocko: maybe you should ask in a xbox-linux channel |
| 21:41.40 | mxmx | then mount -o loop,noexec,nosuid,rw /dev/tmpMnt /tmp |
| 21:41.46 | mxmx | sotty |
| 21:41.48 | mxmx | sorry |
| 21:41.51 | rocko | okay eshat |
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| 21:42.13 | mxmx | let me start over, |
| 21:42.19 | eshat | rocko: debian is known for it's stability but we don't know how good it is on a xbox |
| 21:42.23 | jelly-home | mxmx: do you want to save the contents for /tmp across reboots? |
| 21:42.28 | mxmx | yeah |
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| 21:42.35 | rocko | yes I know eshat |
| 21:42.42 | rocko | debian is GREAT |
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| 21:42.46 | mxmx | i can add /dev/tmpMnt /tmp ext2 loop,noexec,nosuid,rw 0 0 to the nfstab |
| 21:42.59 | mxmx | *fstab |
| 21:43.15 | jelly-home | mxmx: ok, but create the file on a real filesystem, not in /dev |
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| 21:43.27 | eshat | what is the debian testing channel, #debian+ ??? |
| 21:43.39 | mxmx | jsut craete it on root? |
| 21:43.43 | abrotman | eshat: just ask here |
| 21:44.02 | jelly-home | mxmx: if you have 1GB free there, sure |
| 21:44.09 | eshat | abrotman: okay,... but actually I don't have a question,... I am just bored |
| 21:44.14 | mxmx | ok |
| 21:44.17 | abrotman | so just sit and learn ? |
| 21:44.32 | eshat | no, trying to sit and help ;) |
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| 21:44.42 | poker | ciao a tutti |
| 21:44.45 | abrotman | !it |
| 21:44.46 | dpkg | Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help. |
| 21:44.46 | poker | qlc ke mi aiuta |
| 21:44.48 | jelly-home | mxmx: using /tmp as permanent storage is rather unusual, though |
| 21:44.49 | abrotman | or english here |
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| 21:45.18 | valdyn | dusty: http://www.feep.net/sendmail/tutorial/intro/forward.html |
| 21:45.23 | jelly-home | $deity, shorthand italian |
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| 21:45.53 | eshat | abrotman: what windowmanager do you use ? |
| 21:46.06 | mxmx | sigh |
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| 21:46.09 | abrotman | how is that helping ? |
| 21:46.37 | eshat | abrotman: I see there is nobody who needs help, so I am trying a new window manger,... I though you use a exotic one |
| 21:46.50 | abrotman | xwinman.org .. have fun |
| 21:46.59 | eshat | thanks |
| 21:47.50 | mxmx | jelly-home can I send u soemthing my server hsot sent mee? its a pdf |
| 21:48.07 | eshat | abrotman: site is offline :( |
| 21:48.22 | abrotman | works fine here ... sounds like you have something to fix |
| 21:48.43 | eshat | abrotman: actually no,... can you give me the ip ? |
| 21:48.54 | eshat | maybe my dns server in germany has problems+ |
| 21:49.09 | jelly-home | mxmx: yeah, but if it's relevant to your issue, better to upload where everyone can see it |
| 21:49.13 | abrotman | no, fix your dns |
| 21:49.48 | mxmx | yes it is |
| 21:49.58 | eshat | abrotman: even ping recieves no answer |
| 21:50.33 | BaronVonOwn | i've been trying to set up my linux computer as a gateway, and for some strange reason internal clients can send/receive ping but nothing else. any ideas? |
| 21:50.36 | abrotman | and what does that mean? |
| 21:50.39 | abrotman | the site works fine here |
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| 21:51.05 | mxmx | http://pastebin.ca/1350494 |
| 21:51.09 | mxmx | there jelly-home |
| 21:51.35 | eshat | [eshat@archy ~]$ host xwinman.org |
| 21:51.36 | eshat | xwinman.org A 195.40.122.105 |
| 21:51.42 | eshat | hmmm ? strange |
| 21:52.08 | eshat | maybe my IP is blocked |
| 21:52.17 | abrotman | maybe you should ask your ISP |
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| 21:52.36 | jelly-home | mxmx: all that for a noexec /tmp? |
| 21:52.42 | eshat | I ll try with VPN over my university |
| 21:52.43 | mxmx | yeah |
| 21:52.49 | mxmx | a ebtter solution? |
| 21:52.50 | jelly-home | mxmx: why don't you just use a real partition? |
| 21:53.16 | mxmx | cause i was told to usE that tut |
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| 21:54.31 | eshat | abrotman: works now ,.. my ISP seems to have a problem |
| 21:54.43 | abrotman | or your system |
| 21:54.58 | jelly-home | mxmx: that makes sense only if you're absolutely unable to change the partitions |
| 21:55.04 | eshat | why should it be my system ? |
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| 21:55.23 | mxmx | hm |
| 21:55.53 | jelly-home | mxmx: is the machine already in production? |
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| 21:56.18 | mxmx | yes |
| 21:56.32 | mxmx | high ranikign alexa sites :/ |
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| 21:56.54 | mxmx | and thousands of backlinks |
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| 21:57.20 | AliTarihi | Hi... I have a problem. I'm using sid and xperimental repo for KDE 4.2. Upgrade now breaks my Debian. How to pin package them? |
| 21:57.53 | AliTarihi | I've read the documents but no clue. :/ |
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| 21:58.21 | jelly-home | mxmx: oh well. just put that file somewhere other than /dev/tmpmnt |
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| 21:59.00 | mxmx | ok |
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| 21:59.22 | jpinx | respectfully suggests that if one is unable to configure pinning packages, one should not be using sid. |
| 21:59.40 | abrotman | respectfully? |
| 22:00.21 | seria-mau | hi. i have a problem with storebackup. i generated a config file which i have successfully used in the past but storebackup now dies on my with an error message which basically says "error: exiting". i tried the debug switches with no effect |
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| 22:00.31 | jpinx | yes - everything with respect |
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| 22:01.53 | unicum | how can i blacklist sdb from udev? |
| 22:02.00 | abrotman | !tell unicum about blacklist |
| 22:02.10 | _Brandon_ | anyone knows how to set a nebios name to a linux machine so that I can ping it from windows? |
| 22:02.15 | abrotman | oh .. drr .. not a module |
| 22:02.17 | abrotman | unicum: ignore that |
| 22:02.27 | nkuttler | jpinx: you don't need pinning if you run sid (.oO) |
| 22:02.30 | abrotman | _Brandon_: using samba |
| 22:02.35 | unicum | yah, i will |
| 22:02.45 | _Brandon_ | abrotman: ok thanks |
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| 22:03.08 | unicum | to be more specific |
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| 22:03.19 | jpinx | nkuttler: tell that to AliTarihi |
| 22:03.28 | booiiing | hi all |
| 22:03.34 | unicum | i'm on a ubuntu.. but #ubuntu is not as good in answering. now.. i need to exclude sdb from the automounting function |
| 22:03.45 | abrotman | go to #ubuntu for support |
| 22:03.51 | nkuttler | jpinx: aaargh :) |
| 22:03.52 | BaronVonOwn | ok last try: i'm setting up my linux as a gateway, i've got it to the point where clients can ping external ips and the gateway, but they dont seem to work with other protocols. what could be preventing this (aside from iptables)? |
| 22:03.53 | abrotman | or ask ##linux |
| 22:03.57 | unicum | did u read the line completely? |
| 22:04.00 | kogyaru | did the C headers for linux tcp change between 2.6.18 and 2.6.26? I just noticed an old linux program compiled ~3 years ago can no longer bind to a tcp socket, but can do a domain socket |
| 22:04.07 | abrotman | unicum: if you want support in #debian, install Debian |
| 22:04.08 | kogyaru | strange... |
| 22:04.20 | kogyaru | (I upgraded etch's kernel, hence my asking here...) |
| 22:04.37 | abrotman | kogyaru: pretty good odds .. that was a fair amount of time |
| 22:04.44 | blast_hardcheese | Hey, I'm trying to use iptables to route connections on port 25 -i eth0 to -o eth0 192.168.0.21:25, but PREROUTING doesn't accept -o; I'm not really sure what the POSTROUTING line should look like for this |
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| 22:04.56 | seria-mau | forget it. some strange error that never happened before. because storebackup now interprets an option in a more strict way. strange, because i didnt update storebackup or changed the config file between the last successful run and today |
| 22:05.46 | jelly-home | kogyaru: a bsd socket app doesn't use linux kernel headers anyway. It shouldn't matter. |
| 22:05.52 | furrywolf | How would I go about installing oldstable's version of k3b? 1.0.3 and earlier work, 1.0.4 and later crash... the bug has been reported before, but it seems it's not being fixed, and upstream is ignoring it... |
| 22:06.05 | blast_hardcheese | -A PREROUTING -d external.IP/32 -i eth0 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.0.18:80 is the PREROUTING line |
| 22:06.15 | seria-mau | maybe i should reconsider trusting storebackup with making my backups... |
| 22:06.42 | blast_hardcheese | err, that was the wrong one, but the correct general structure |
| 22:06.43 | abrotman | furrywolf: if it's not at snapshot.debian.net .. you're kind of out of luck .. maybe find a less buggy tool |
| 22:06.45 | kogyaru | jelly: in this case, it's a fairly straightforward compile of openldap (non-debian package; part of a commercial suite I helped work on years ago). so it isn't critical, as I can swap in a debian-approved openldap, but .. it still seems strange. |
| 22:06.46 | lxsameer | when i try to put a file to server via ftp i get :500 iilegal port command . what's that? |
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| 22:07.07 | jpinx | seria-mau: try rsync |
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| 22:08.03 | jelly-home | kogyaru: could be some dumb reason, like not running as root and trying to bind tcp/389? :-) |
| 22:08.06 | kogyaru | I don't know where to begin looking to find out why that broke.. if kernel headers aren't my clue, where might I look? |
| 22:08.11 | furrywolf | abrotman: it's easy to download the oldstable version (presumably what the box had before upgrading to lenny), but I can't make it install... it seems to have dependencies that can't be met on lenny, at least ones I can't figure out how to meet with my marginal skills in the area. |
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| 22:08.29 | seria-mau | jpinx: storebackup saves space by using hardlinks. i used rsync in the past and afair i cant use it in that way (making several directories named after time of backup and hardlinking between them) |
| 22:08.29 | abrotman | furrywolf: i'd say to find another tool then |
| 22:08.32 | kogyaru | jelly: oh, I went back and forth with lsof and strace. nothing's on 389 |
| 22:08.44 | BenEss | Apt-get crashed the kernel, I had to reboot and then it says "dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem." |
| 22:08.45 | miksuh | hmm.. I still run 32bit Debian on 64bit computer (AMD 64 x2 3800+) I might try 64bit debian someday, when Squeeze is released. But i'l now stay on 32bit. |
| 22:08.45 | BenEss | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:08.51 | furrywolf | it's not my box, and she says it's the only thing she wants to use. heh. |
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| 22:09.01 | miksuh | but what about that amd64 kernel in 32bit Debian? |
| 22:09.06 | abrotman | furrywolf: and you looked through the BTS ? |
| 22:09.06 | BenEss | is there a way to reset apt-get? |
| 22:09.12 | jelly-home | kogyaru: what does bind() actually fail with? |
| 22:09.14 | rocko | how well does cross fire work on linux ? |
| 22:09.18 | abrotman | miksuh: apt-cache search linux-image amd64 |
| 22:09.20 | miksuh | would there be any problems if I use that kernel? |
| 22:09.23 | rocko | ati cross fire |
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| 22:09.40 | kogyaru | jelly-home: 17063 2988 listen(7, 1024) = -1 EADDRINUSE (Address already in use) |
| 22:09.41 | furrywolf | I don't know why the bug hasn't been fixed, either... it's been reported on debian's bug tracker, kde's bug tracker, and those of several other distributions... fedora is the only one with a fix - patching the change that broke it back to 1.0.3's version. |
| 22:09.41 | bolt | how can I get the two thumb buttons of my intellimouse to do something useful? |
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| 22:10.37 | miksuh | abrotman: I know 64bit amd64 kernel is in the 32bit debian. I just wonder if it would be an good idea to use it or not |
| 22:10.48 | furrywolf | abrotman: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=471316 and others. (there's several duplicates) |
| 22:11.09 | abrotman | miksuh: try it .. many people do it |
| 22:11.50 | jpinx | seria-mau: I can't comment on that. |
| 22:12.00 | abrotman | furrywolf: tells you to turn verify off ? |
| 22:12.12 | furrywolf | ... would YOU burn a disc without verifying it? |
| 22:12.16 | abrotman | yes |
| 22:12.26 | abrotman | depends what it is obviously |
| 22:12.38 | furrywolf | then your drive/media must have a much better coaster ratio than hers, or your data doesn't matter, or something. :) |
| 22:12.51 | bolt | hm.. let me rephrase that, because the buttons actually work. how can I get the thumb buttons on the intellimouse to do something different? like, I want one of them to act as the close button on the current window, if possible. |
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| 22:13.56 | furrywolf | in any case, it worked before she upgraded to lenny, and the problem was introduced in 1.0.4 (lots of references confirming this, including fedora's patching back to the 1.0.3 version of the eject code)... there must be some easy way to reinstall the oldstable version of it. |
| 22:13.57 | mhymn | bolt: 'man xev' and 'man xmodmap' might help you |
| 22:13.59 | SportChick | w 35 |
| 22:14.25 | jelly-home | furrywolf: oh, if you've already tracked a patch in fedora, add the link to one of those bug reports |
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| 22:17.46 | jelly-home | furrywolf: what you could _try_, is adding an oldstable deb line, update, and see what'd happen with aptitude -s install k3b/etch |
| 22:17.48 | nsadmin | furrywolf: you could get the source from oldstable and try building a package... you could also get the current source and apply that patch |
| 22:18.22 | dusty | valdyn, I created the ~/.forward file but it still delivers locally and not emails externally.? |
| 22:18.26 | furrywolf | the patch looks like it only works against 1.0.4, not 1.0.5, but I'm still reading through the many pages about the bug... |
| 22:18.51 | abrotman | furrywolf: you could maybe query #debian-kde also |
| 22:18.59 | abrotman | would just find another burning tool :) |
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| 22:19.15 | nsadmin | you could try applying the patch to 1.0.5 by hand |
| 22:19.17 | furrywolf | http://bugs.kde.org/151816 is one of them, plus ~50 duplicates on the kde bugtracker... you can see most of them by looking at what's been marked as duplicates of what. |
| 22:19.18 | valdyn | dusty: didnt the link i gave you explain everything? |
| 22:19.34 | dusty | valdyn, i did that but it doesn't deliver externally ? |
| 22:19.38 | valdyn | dusty: like that .forward works for name@remotehost.tld ? |
| 22:19.46 | furrywolf | jelly-home: k, let me ssh to her box and try that... thanks |
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| 22:19.55 | valdyn | dusty: maybe your exim4 is not configured to deliver externally |
| 22:20.02 | dusty | hrm |
| 22:20.25 | valdyn | try sending mail.. |
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| 22:22.18 | furrywolf | Unable to find an archive "etch" for the package "k3b" |
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| 22:22.38 | jelly-home | furrywolf: pastebin apt-cache policy k3b |
| 22:22.51 | toshiba510cdt | i have a booting delay problem on my ancient Pentium 133 MHz laptop running Lenny. can anyone help me? details are to be found on http://pastebin.ca/1350201 |
| 22:23.06 | nsadmin | it's still on the mirrors as oldstable |
| 22:23.37 | toshiba510cdt | please see also http://pastebin.ca/1350408 |
| 22:23.59 | furrywolf | wow, pastebin.ca is SLOW today. |
| 22:24.05 | BCM43 | how do i figure out which SCSI device my usb stick is? |
| 22:24.23 | abrotman | dmesg might tell you |
| 22:24.28 | lymeca | I need a new version of ALSA for my sound card to work properly. I will compile 1.0.19 from source, but do I need to uninstall the existing ALSA first via aptitude? |
| 22:24.43 | furrywolf | any suggestions for another pastebin? |
| 22:24.51 | jelly-home | !paste |
| 22:24.51 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! |
| 22:24.57 | furrywolf | there we go, finally pasted... http://pastebin.ca/1350516 |
| 22:24.59 | abrotman | use paste.debian.net |
| 22:25.31 | BCM43 | abrotman: do i just run dmesg? |
| 22:25.39 | abrotman | sure |
| 22:25.41 | valdyn | lymeca: no |
| 22:25.48 | hark | lymeca: no |
| 22:25.52 | furrywolf | http://paste.debian.net/29535/ |
| 22:25.55 | valdyn | lymeca: but by moving the alsa drivers that shipped with your kernel away |
| 22:26.07 | BCM43 | i get a whole ton of output that makes no sense to me, and i mean pages and pages of it |
| 22:26.33 | lymeca | valdyn: I'm sorry what was that? grammar threw me off |
| 22:26.35 | jelly-home | furrywolf: humm, what about "aptitude -s install k3b=0.12.17-8" ? |
| 22:26.55 | valdyn | lymeca: move the alsa drivers that shipped with your kernel away |
| 22:27.25 | furrywolf | aptitude install k3b=0.12.17-8 looks like it'll work |
| 22:27.25 | lymeca | move them away, but don't uninstall them via APT? |
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| 22:27.36 | valdyn | lymeca: its not an extra package |
| 22:27.36 | abrotman | toshiba510cdt: it really seems like udev isn't properly installed/running |
| 22:27.57 | valdyn | lymeca: its just drivers, and you also only need the new drivers, not the other stuff that is part of alsa too |
| 22:28.11 | furrywolf | uninstalling/downgrading/breaking things now. I'll need to call her up and have her see if it works. |
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| 22:28.27 | toshiba510cdt | <abrotman> what can this newbie do? |
| 22:28.31 | jelly-home | furrywolf: you'll want to aptitude hold it afterwards |
| 22:28.46 | abrotman | toshiba510cdt: make sure it's installed correctly and running .. and your kernel is unhappy also |
| 22:28.59 | valdyn | lymeca: /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/sound needs to be moved away |
| 22:29.15 | lymeca | valdyn: You are saying I don't need alsa-lib and alsa-utils version 1.0.19, just alsa-driver? |
| 22:29.23 | valdyn | lymeca: yes |
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| 22:29.37 | mxmx | how do i know if my /tmp/ is now noexec? |
| 22:30.10 | valdyn | i wonder if noexec /tmp doesnt break apps |
| 22:30.12 | jelly-home | mxmx: you won't be able to execute binaries that are in there |
| 22:30.19 | valdyn | im sure it might |
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| 22:30.23 | toshiba510cdt | <abrotman> but how can i actually do that? |
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| 22:30.27 | jelly-home | valdyn: it breaks dpkg (installation) |
| 22:30.27 | furrywolf | brb |
| 22:30.41 | furrywolf | jelly-home: looks like it installed, I'll have her test it now - thanks! |
| 22:30.52 | valdyn | mxmx: why are you doing this silly stuff? |
| 22:31.03 | abrotman | toshiba510cdt: boot it .. check to see if it's running |
| 22:31.25 | jelly-home | valdyn: it throws off some script kiddie stuff |
| 22:31.32 | valdyn | mxmx: noexec has an obvious use for removable media, but /tmp ? |
| 22:31.41 | valdyn | jelly-home: weird kiddies |
| 22:31.52 | jelly-home | valdyn: not weird, rather usual |
| 22:32.08 | lvh | Does anyone know what happened to the psyco package for debian? I'm talking about the Python JIT compiler, not psycopg. |
| 22:32.22 | Givvade | how do I simulate the bash that I pushed Enter? |
| 22:32.36 | toshiba510cdt | i boot and rebooted the system a lot of times today. are you sure is a udev problem and not a sourceclock problem? |
| 22:32.39 | mxmx | valdyn i ahd soem holes |
| 22:32.41 | jelly-home | judd: versions python-psyco |
| 22:32.41 | judd | jelly-home: python-psyco -- etch: 1.5.1-3 lenny: 1.6-1 sid: 1.6-1 squeeze: 1.6-1 |
| 22:32.42 | mxmx | so i ahd to do that |
| 22:32.55 | toshiba510cdt | http://kerneltrap.org/node/8306 |
| 22:33.12 | mxmx | jelly-home but anyway to test it? |
| 22:33.18 | lvh | judd: what the? I have etch lenny *and* sid (and experimental, pinned to lenny) |
| 22:33.18 | judd | lvh: Error: "what" is not a valid command. |
| 22:33.43 | lvh | Oh, judd's a bot. sorry. |
| 22:33.45 | jelly-home | mxmx: your pdf tells you a way. |
| 22:34.03 | lvh | apparently my mirror is bad |
| 22:34.05 | mxmx | uh eyah |
| 22:34.06 | mxmx | hold on |
| 22:34.12 | valdyn | mxmx: thats maybe useful to fix some scripts, but that does not close a hole |
| 22:34.23 | Mox` | Hi, how do I add a user which shall only have access to run a program? |
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| 22:34.26 | mxmx | valdyn tahs just one of the steps , of course |
| 22:34.29 | valdyn | mxmx: you can still run things from /tmp/ |
| 22:34.43 | mxmx | hmmm |
| 22:34.55 | mxmx | jelly i did chmod +x mysql.sock |
| 22:34.59 | valdyn | mxmx: noexec doesnt make it harder to run things |
| 22:35.01 | mxmx | and it didnt give me a message |
| 22:35.12 | valdyn | mxmx: it makes it impossible to run suid binaries |
| 22:35.13 | mxmx | valdyn again, that jsut oen fo teh steps, i still gotta do other things |
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| 22:35.35 | jelly-home | valdyn: um. noexec != nosuid |
| 22:35.45 | valdyn | jelly-home: so? |
| 22:36.09 | jelly-home | "<valdyn> mxmx: it makes it impossible to run suid binaries" seems like you're confusing them |
| 22:36.18 | valdyn | jelly-home: the fact that i cant ./file is easily circumvented with perl <file> |
| 22:36.27 | valdyn | jelly-home: or whatever interpreter |
| 22:36.35 | jelly-home | valdyn: so? |
| 22:36.52 | valdyn | jelly-home: so noexec is useless for this |
| 22:36.58 | lvh | jelly-home: ah, figured it out. |
| 22:37.03 | lvh | jelly-home: psyco only works on x86 |
| 22:37.10 | alexxoid | hi, I have a small problem with apt-get tool... When a do apt-get update, it is downloading the full repository index for some repositories except the only diff downloading. Thus, I am downloading a few Mb any time when using the apt-get update. Is there some remedy for it? |
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| 22:37.19 | jelly-home | valdyn: it does exactly what it's supposed to |
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| 22:37.25 | rimvis | hello all :) |
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| 22:37.37 | valdyn | jelly-home: its not supposed to secure tmp |
| 22:37.41 | jpinx | alexxoid: try using aptitude |
| 22:37.47 | mxmx | jelly-home so if i didn get a message, that emans it's not noexec yet? |
| 22:37.58 | jelly-home | lvh: ah, right; the bot defaults to i386 |
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| 22:39.12 | miksuh | abrotman: yep, I probably will try it because I think i have to buys some more ram for my desktop computer now 2GB so 2GB->4GB. Ofcourse 575-bigmem kernel would be one solution too. |
| 22:39.25 | jelly-home | valdyn: it still stands that it can be helpful with some badly written exploits |
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| 22:39.27 | miksuh | buys = buy |
| 22:39.32 | miksuh | eg |
| 22:39.33 | abrotman | miksuh: the -686 supports up to 4GB |
| 22:39.39 | lvh | jelly-home: unfortunately psyco actually *needs* i386. I don't understand why, but someone much smarter than me in #python has convinced me that this really is the case :-) |
| 22:39.45 | mxmx | .. |
| 22:39.45 | mxmx | ? |
| 22:39.49 | miksuh | 575-bigmem == 686-bigmem kernel |
| 22:40.18 | alexxoid | Get:27 ftp://ftp.us.debian.org squeeze/main Packages [5506kB] |
| 22:41.00 | alexxoid | didn't help... |
| 22:41.19 | rimvis | :) |
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| 22:41.27 | jelly-home | mxmx: grep /tmp /proc/mounts |
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| 22:43.12 | jelly-home | mxmx: also, if your mysqld really uses that /tmp/mysql.sock socket, your replacing of /tmp will have probably broken the mysql clients' ability to connect to it |
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| 22:44.18 | maggot_brain | I accidentally overwrote the rc.d directory with a file, will this break anything? |
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| 22:44.42 | abrotman | the what ? |
| 22:44.56 | valdyn | maggot_brain: no such dir in debian, wich one is it really? |
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| 22:45.08 | mxmx | jelly-home it did, and i rebooted the machine |
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| 22:45.19 | alexxoid | more suggestions? |
| 22:45.26 | ktebit | why dont i have the -p option with watch on debian? but i have it on ubuntu |
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| 22:45.49 | valdyn | alexxoid: use http://, not ftp:// |
| 22:45.51 | abrotman | ktebit: my man page says it's there |
| 22:46.07 | maggot_brain | valdyn: I was copying a script to there, and since I use Arch too I was in 'Arch Mode' and did a 'cp file rc.d' |
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| 22:46.15 | mxmx | jelly-home i ran taht grep, no results |
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| 22:46.19 | adb | alexxoid: no Packages in repos , |
| 22:46.20 | jelly-home | abrotman: which watch |
| 22:46.25 | valdyn | maggot_brain: you didnt overwrite anything from debian then |
| 22:46.38 | abrotman | jelly-home: who which watch ? |
| 22:46.42 | maggot_brain | valdyn: that's a massive relief then, thanks |
| 22:46.51 | abrotman | jelly-home: he didn't specify either! |
| 22:46.53 | jelly-home | mxmx: pastebin your /etc/fstab and /proc/mounts |
| 22:47.04 | mxmx | ok |
| 22:47.05 | jelly-home | abrotman: THIRD BASE... wait |
| 22:47.11 | valdyn | maggot_brain: arch uses a different init system |
| 22:47.27 | valdyn | !sysv |
| 22:47.27 | dpkg | methinks sysv is dpkg --force-all --remove sysvinit && dpkg --force-all -i sysvinit && apt-get -f install |
| 22:47.30 | maggot_brain | valdyn: yeah I know, Arch is more like BSD, Debian Sysv |
| 22:47.34 | alexxoid | adb: ? |
| 22:47.39 | abrotman | jelly-home: mine is from procps |
| 22:47.54 | jelly-home | was 75% sure watch was a builtin |
| 22:48.26 | adb | alexxoid: i means in Debian repos |
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| 22:48.55 | abrotman | jelly-home: dpkg -S bin/watch .. returns procps |
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| 22:49.43 | mxmx | jelly-home http://pastebin.ca/1350533 |
| 22:49.48 | maggot_brain | one more: how do I execute a command as specific user from rc.local? I want hellanzb to run as normal user at boot |
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| 22:50.51 | jelly-home | mxmx: you need to specify full path to your devices in fstab, even when they're merely files |
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| 22:51.22 | mxmx | so if tis in root? |
| 22:51.31 | jelly-home | mxmx: full path. |
| 22:51.34 | valdyn | maggot_brain: why would you put it into rc.local then? |
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| 22:51.54 | maggot_brain | valdyn: ok google sorted me out |
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| 22:52.27 | maggot_brain | valdyn: I'm simply starting it at boot and then starting / stopping from CRON |
| 22:52.38 | valdyn | maggot_brain: i prefer crontab -e, then "@reboot runsomestuff" |
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| 22:53.12 | maggot_brain | valdyn: I prefer keeping it as simple as possible |
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| 22:53.19 | mxmx | jelly but i created tmpmnt in root, so should i just do /tmpmnt? |
| 22:53.25 | valdyn | maggot_brain: thats simple |
| 22:53.31 | alexxoid | valdyn: thx, http:// works fine ) |
| 22:53.48 | jelly-home | mxmx: something like that, right. Mind the CaSe. |
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| 22:54.02 | maggot_brain | valdyn: each to their own |
| 22:54.06 | valdyn | maggot_brain: rc.local for user stuff is majorly ugly, but su can do it |
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| 22:54.28 | valdyn | !rc.local |
| 22:54.28 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, rc.local is /etc/rc.local is a script called by /etc/init.d/rc.local which is typically one of the last things to be run during the boot sequence. If you have commands you want run at boot, edit /etc/rc.local (don't touch /etc/init.d/rc.local). rc.local is considered a hack, consider writing a real init script (ask me about <init.d>). |
| 22:54.39 | jelly-home | likes /etc/rc.boot/ but won't tell anyone |
| 22:54.51 | petemc | its long deprecated |
| 22:54.52 | codejunky | Hello, I need to install debian-4, where can I get a debian-4 cdimage? |
| 22:55.07 | alexxoid | codejunky: debian.org |
| 22:55.16 | jelly-home | petemc: I'll touch it when is disappears! |
| 22:55.22 | jelly-home | s/is/it/ |
| 22:55.28 | petemc | i still use it too |
| 22:55.31 | codejunky | alexxoid: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/ |
| 22:55.38 | codejunky | alexxoid: there is just the 5er version |
| 22:56.26 | valdyn | rc.boot beats rc.local any day |
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| 22:57.06 | alexxoid | codejunky: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/cant-find-debian-etch-4.0-705685/ |
| 22:57.38 | abrotman | uh |
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| 22:57.43 | codejunky | alexxoid: thanks a lot |
| 22:58.02 | codestr0m | would anyone know uwe hermann and if he's on irc? |
| 22:58.57 | abrotman | codestr0m: i'm sure he is .. but can't we help you? |
| 22:59.32 | codestr0m | abrotman: sure.. build the whole deb tree with open64 and then analyze the results like he did |
| 22:59.42 | dmoerner | codestr0m, you can use db.debian.org to search for the irc nicks of debian developers. his is not listed. |
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| 22:59.53 | abrotman | codestr0m: so you want him to do it again ? |
| 23:00.00 | kogyaru | heh |
| 23:00.08 | codestr0m | abrotman: you can't detect sarcasm can you? |
| 23:00.10 | kogyaru | thought you'd said 'pee wee herman' |
| 23:00.17 | abrotman | codestr0m: SDNWOTN |
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| 23:00.35 | alexxoid | Does anybody using the Toshiba Satellite A300 on Debian? |
| 23:00.41 | kogyaru | oh, yes sarcasm can work on the net |
| 23:00.48 | abrotman | oh wait .. that was sarcasm! |
| 23:00.50 | kogyaru | it just takes some practice. and an emoticon. |
| 23:01.01 | alexxoid | *Debian on Satellite of course )) |
| 23:01.02 | kogyaru | and gullible people like me |
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| 23:02.17 | pl4yer0ne | alexxoid, I use it on a tosh M5 which i think is pretty similar |
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| 23:02.44 | dmoerner | that guy shouldn't have left...uwe hermann is on irc right now haha |
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| 23:04.05 | alexxoid | pl4yer0ne: What is video card you have? I need help to configure hardware acceleration on my intel X3100 card... |
| 23:04.12 | andrew[andrboot] | Hi guys |
| 23:04.33 | pl4yer0ne | ah ok they are more different than i thought then, its a nvidia on this |
| 23:04.37 | andrew[andrboot] | I have a blank install of etch, however I don't have any mirrors due to my stupidiy( only security ones) but i wish to add some so i can install stuff... what is the easiest way to do this |
| 23:04.47 | abrotman | dmoerner: probably a better way to contact him .. like email |
| 23:04.58 | dmoerner | abrotman, of course |
| 23:05.08 | bolt | how can I get mouse buttons 6 and 7 to be something other than xf86forward and xf86back? i found how to remap keys based on keycodes, but not the mouse... |
| 23:05.22 | dmoerner | it doesn't help that the guy is sitting in #gnu-kbsd, one of the deadest channels on freenode |
| 23:05.23 | alexxoid | As I know all nvidia cards are working without problems )) |
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| 23:06.14 | alexxoid | andrew[andrboot]: /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 23:06.27 | andrew[andrboot] | yea alexxoid i don't know any to put in there |
| 23:06.27 | andrew[andrboot] | :p |
| 23:06.31 | seria-mau | can you think of any reason why enabling autologin on a fully encrypted install with only one user is a bad idea? (i can't) |
| 23:07.17 | andrew[andrboot] | pointles using encryped hdd then @ seria-mau |
| 23:07.18 | raz0 | andrew[andrboot], apt-spy maybe? |
| 23:07.34 | alexxoid | andrew[andrboot]: http://www.alexxoid.com/blog/linux/debian-repositories-list.html |
| 23:07.36 | andrew[andrboot] | what is apt-spy ? |
| 23:07.36 | andrew[andrboot] | hmm |
| 23:07.37 | raz0 | I'm sure there's some mirror selection tool also - but can't remember the name |
| 23:07.45 | raz0 | doh |
| 23:07.46 | andrew[andrboot] | mirror-=selecl toll fails :p |
| 23:07.51 | alexxoid | andrew[andrboot]: this is my repos list on etch |
| 23:07.57 | andrew[andrboot] | ty @ alexxoid |
| 23:08.03 | raz0 | of course you can't install apt-spy without sources :P |
| 23:08.04 | seria-mau | andrew[andrboot]: why? i have to enter a password as credential |
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| 23:09.51 | foetus | what is the difference between -mtune=i686 and -march=i686 and what is --enable-threats=posix for? |
| 23:10.03 | andrew[andrboot] | deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib |
| 23:10.03 | andrew[andrboot] | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:10.03 | andrew[andrboot] | # kernel repository |
| 23:10.03 | andrew[andrboot] | deb http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ testing main |
| 23:10.03 | andrew[andrboot] | deb-src http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ testing main |
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| 23:10.21 | andrew[andrboot] | # skype repository |
| 23:10.23 | andrew[andrboot] | deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free |
| 23:10.25 | andrew[andrboot] | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:10.27 | andrew[andrboot] | # google repository |
| 23:10.29 | andrew[andrboot] | deb http://dl.google.com/linux/deb/ stable non-free |
| 23:10.31 | andrew[andrboot] | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:10.35 | andrew[andrboot] | # main repository |
| 23:10.37 | andrew[andrboot] | deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free |
| 23:10.39 | andrew[andrboot] | deb-src ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free |
| 23:10.41 | andrew[andrboot] | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:10.43 | andrew[andrboot] | deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free |
| 23:10.45 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@unaffiliated/andrewandrboot/x-689432] by abrotman |
| 23:10.45 | seria-mau | stop that! |
| 23:10.47 | *** mode/#debian [-o abrotman] by abrotman |
| 23:10.57 | abrotman | andrew[andrboot]: use paste.debian.net |
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| 23:11.40 | foetus | whats the matter? |
| 23:11.45 | abrotman | you don't paste here |
| 23:11.58 | abrotman | and he probably doesn't ahve etch anymore |
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| 23:12.55 | craigevil | if he has stable rather than release names in his sources.list then if he upgraded he has lenny |
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| 23:13.20 | themill | craigevil: well... he's probably half way there at least :( |
| 23:14.24 | adb | heh it's alexxoid sources : etch + stable+ testing+ unstable + experimental ... |
| 23:15.03 | alexxoid | )) I didn't say that is only the stable sources )) |
| 23:15.05 | seria-mau | foetus: afaict from the manpage, there's no real difference between -march and -mtune except that -march implies -mcpu |
| 23:15.32 | seria-mau | foetus: which is different from -mtune |
| 23:15.36 | adb | alexxoid: look at your url ... |
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| 23:17.40 | furrywolf | jelly-home: worked great - thanks! |
| 23:17.58 | Gnurdux | does flash crash firefox, or just iceweasel? |
| 23:18.22 | furrywolf | iceweasel = firefox |
| 23:18.47 | furrywolf | at least, I've never found a single difference except the name and icon. :) |
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| 23:19.03 | Gnurdux | but ive never heard non-debian uses complain about flash crashing firefox |
| 23:19.15 | Gnurdux | yet flash crashing iceweasel is a huge huge issue for me |
| 23:19.18 | furrywolf | flash is evil, and crashes everything, on all OSes. |
| 23:19.24 | Gnurdux | not on Windows |
| 23:19.27 | Gnurdux | whatever you sayd |
| 23:19.29 | Gnurdux | *sa |
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| 23:19.33 | Gnurdux | *say |
| 23:19.34 | furrywolf | even on windows. |
| 23:19.46 | abrotman | this doesn't seem to be helping him |
| 23:19.53 | Gnurdux | no. that is just not true. my mom uses windows and has never had a single flash crash |
| 23:19.54 | alexxoid | Gnurdux: what way you have installed your flash player? |
| 23:19.57 | abrotman | Gnurdux: which version of debian? which version of flash? |
| 23:20.19 | Gnurdux | flash 10, debian lenny (i think, unless ive updated more recently than i think) |
| 23:20.19 | avu | Gnurdux, your statistical methods suck :) |
| 23:20.47 | avu | Gnurdux, can you reproduce those crashes reliably? |
| 23:20.55 | Gnurdux | indeed i can |
| 23:20.59 | Gnurdux | for example, weather.com |
| 23:21.07 | abrotman | Gnurdux: works fine here .. i was just using it |
| 23:21.09 | avu | Gnurdux, report a bug to adobe then |
| 23:21.16 | furrywolf | my half-brother's mom uses windows, and flash often causes crashes. yay small sample sizes. :) |
| 23:21.21 | abrotman | Gnurdux: i386? |
| 23:21.24 | Gnurdux | yes |
| 23:21.27 | abrotman | furrywolf: enough already |
| 23:21.35 | avu | abrotman, he does have a point.. |
| 23:21.42 | abrotman | Gnurdux: are you really sure it's adobe flash? and not gnash? |
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| 23:21.52 | Gnurdux | it is adobe flash 10 |
| 23:21.54 | abrotman | avu: it has no bearing really ... |
| 23:22.03 | Gnurdux | perhaps i should uninstall and reinstall |
| 23:22.21 | abrotman | Gnurdux: so you don't have gnash or swfdec installed? and /etc/alternatives/flash-mozilla.so points at adobe flash ? |
| 23:22.44 | Gnurdux | cannot access /etc/alternatives/flash-mozilla.so: No such file or directory |
| 23:22.52 | Gnurdux | also, right clicking stuff says "adobe flash 10" |
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| 23:22.57 | Gnurdux | so i think it is adobe flash |
| 23:23.06 | abrotman | Gnurdux: and your flash is up to date? |
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| 23:23.12 | Gnurdux | flash 10 :) |
| 23:23.15 | Gnurdux | that is the latest |
| 23:23.24 | abrotman | there is more than one version |
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| 23:24.03 | abrotman | Gnurdux: at any rate .. i have flash10 and lenny i386 .. iceweasel works *way* better than epiphany |
| 23:24.25 | alexxoid | Gnurdux: try apt-get install pulseaudio |
| 23:24.26 | Gnurdux | epiphany crashes in the same places for me |
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| 23:24.44 | Spindel | Hi. I have installed Debian 5 Lenny (amd64) and I have problems with my ATI Radeon HD 2900XT. The screen is flashing, it becomes black the most of the time :( I have tried to install ATI drivers but I cant get it work |
| 23:24.50 | Gnurdux | is there any "good" way to install flash? like through apt? |
| 23:24.52 | abrotman | alexxoid: i don't have pulseaudio installed |
| 23:24.56 | abrotman | Gnurdux: /msg dpkg dmm |
| 23:25.23 | abrotman | Gnurdux: tried running it from an xterm to see if you can get more info ? |
| 23:25.24 | Gnurdux | i actually already have that enabled |
| 23:25.29 | BCM43 | could someone help me create a usb install stick |
| 23:25.57 | alexxoid | abrotman: when flash playing the sounds it was crashes for me. and pulseaudio package solves this issue for me |
| 23:26.04 | seria-mau | who uses epiphany, anyway? it's an intelligence service's dream come true |
| 23:26.12 | abrotman | seria-mau: i do |
| 23:26.22 | abrotman | lots of people do |
| 23:26.48 | seria-mau | i find that hard to believe with that little emphasis on privacy and security |
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| 23:26.49 | Spindel | seria-mau: What do u use? |
| 23:27.01 | Geek`N`Proud | seria-mau, I use epiphany |
| 23:27.04 | Gnurdux | so im reinstalling, from debian multimedia this time |
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| 23:27.07 | abrotman | seria-mau: yeah .. because the other browsers are so much better |
| 23:27.14 | abrotman | thinks seria-mau is trolling |
| 23:27.19 | seria-mau | Spindel: iceweasel with noscript |
| 23:27.25 | abrotman | see .. exactly .. |
| 23:27.46 | Geek`N`Proud | seria-mau, in my opinion the move to include webkit in the engine list makes it superior |
| 23:27.56 | seria-mau | epiphany doesnt even know the concept of whitelists for cookies |
| 23:27.58 | Gnurdux | reinstalled; still crashes |
| 23:27.59 | abrotman | what .. you mean gecko is a hog ? |
| 23:28.05 | Geek`N`Proud | when epiphany-webkit is stable I suspect many will stop using firefox in the debian realm |
| 23:28.10 | furrywolf | likes Dillo |
| 23:28.18 | amphi | likes midori |
| 23:28.22 | abrotman | Geek`N`Proud: if it works well .. i'll stop using gecko |
| 23:28.30 | Gnurdux | no real console output |
| 23:28.40 | furrywolf | Dillo is what a browser should be. there's no excuse for browsers using hundreds of megs of ram and billions of clock cycles to render simple pages. |
| 23:28.40 | Gnurdux | other than some ** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1) |
| 23:28.40 | abrotman | i tried to use kazahshckiae .. but the webkit version was fullcrash |
| 23:28.41 | seria-mau | no mathml for webkit, last time i checked |
| 23:28.41 | Geek`N`Proud | abrotman, it's less about bloat and more about potential stability |
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| 23:28.49 | jelly-home | likes... opera 10 |
| 23:28.50 | Geek`N`Proud | gecko gets updated and released often |
| 23:28.54 | jelly-home | hides |
| 23:28.58 | abrotman | Gnurdux: tried mving your .mozilla to the side for a bit |
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| 23:29.00 | abrotman | jelly-home: yes .. that also |
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| 23:29.19 | Geek`N`Proud | problem with that is it messes with the Debian "stability over all" idea |
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| 23:29.56 | Gnurdux | move .mozilla and it still crashes :O |
| 23:30.02 | foetus | seria-mau: sorry, i was absent in the gentoo-channel |
| 23:30.05 | maligor | Geek`N`Proud, there's no such 'idea' |
| 23:30.14 | seria-mau | foetus: i thought so ;) |
| 23:30.16 | abrotman | Gnurdux: do you have a .adobe or .flash ? |
| 23:30.24 | Geek`N`Proud | maligor, well.. policy rather |
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| 23:30.35 | Gnurdux | i have a .adobe |
| 23:30.36 | maligor | it's not a policy really either |
| 23:30.38 | Gnurdux | ill try deleting it |
| 23:30.44 | Gnurdux | or moving |
| 23:30.44 | Spindel | I have installed Debian 5 Lenny (amd64) and I have problems with my ATI Radeon HD 2900XT. The screen is flashing, it becomes black the most of the time :( I have tried to install ATI drivers but I cant get it work |
| 23:30.45 | Geek`N`Proud | the release notes kinda say it all regarding gecko |
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| 23:31.05 | abrotman | Gnurdux: don't forget to restart your browser |
| 23:31.13 | Gnurdux | still crashes |
| 23:31.21 | Gnurdux | yes, i am restarting browser each time |
| 23:31.26 | Gnurdux | after all, it is crashing |
| 23:31.33 | maligor | Geek`N`Proud, there are always options if you want to add 'fresh' software to stable release |
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| 23:32.11 | Schuenemann | Gnurdux, I copied that flash.so to plugins/ and it worked. Have you tried that? |
| 23:32.15 | Geek`N`Proud | maligor, yes I know.. i'm kinda hoping webkit will become ready ASAP so it can get into squeeze |
| 23:32.41 | Geek`N`Proud | (then the reliance on mozilla/gecko won't be needed as much) |
| 23:32.45 | Gnurdux | Schuenemann, isnt that where the flash.so resides anyway? |
| 23:32.55 | Gnurdux | what is weird is that some things in flash work just fine. like youtube |
| 23:33.04 | foetus | seria-mau: mtune is more compatible, in combination with --with-threats=posix real fast, i found out, however.. |
| 23:33.23 | Schuenemann | Gnurdux, when I installed via apt, nothing was copied. I then downloaded from adobe's website and copied there |
| 23:33.37 | foetus | links is running like a rocket with it :) |
| 23:33.40 | Gnurdux | the apt installation is actually working though |
| 23:33.42 | seria-mau | foetus: ah, ok. thanks for the info :) |
| 23:33.50 | Gnurdux | except it crashes |
| 23:33.55 | Gnurdux | ill try the pulseaudio thing |
| 23:34.09 | Gnurdux | although, actually |
| 23:34.11 | Gnurdux | that cant be the problem |
| 23:34.16 | Gnurdux | since things with sound work |
| 23:34.33 | Spindel | How to install ATI drivers in Debian 5 Lenny (amd64) for ATI Radeon HD 2900XT? |
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| 23:34.39 | andrew[andrboot] | soo |
| 23:34.56 | andrew[andrboot] | @ alexxoid all working except the experimental mirros :) thanks |
| 23:35.47 | Geek`N`Proud | @ furrywolf: I agree with the dillo statement |
| 23:35.53 | petemc | andrew[andrboot]: you dont want to be mixing releases |
| 23:36.03 | abrotman | i think it's kind of late |
| 23:36.14 | furrywolf | Geek`N`Proud: at least someone does. :) |
| 23:36.24 | andrew[andrboot] | petemc yea i know heh. all good :) I just disabled it |
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| 23:36.56 | alexxoid | andrew[andrboot]: do you setup also the /etc/apt/preferences config? |
| 23:37.16 | Geek`N`Proud | furrywolf, if it did plugins like flash it'd probably be my primary browser xD |
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| 23:38.36 | furrywolf | Geek`N`Proud: I see you don't agree with me that flash is evil. :P |
| 23:38.52 | andrew[andrboot] | @ alexxoid the what? :p |
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| 23:38.58 | Geek`N`Proud | oh it's evil alright.. but I love YouTube and BBC iPlayer |
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| 23:39.22 | Geek`N`Proud | and my college believes web development should include the use of flash >.> |
| 23:39.33 | alexxoid | andrew[andrboot]: http://paste.debian.net/29539/ |
| 23:39.46 | furrywolf | meh. remind me not to go to your college. bundling content and presentation--. |
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| 23:40.08 | abrotman | alexxoid: uhm .. you're gong to mess up his box |
| 23:40.15 | andrew[andrboot] | ah heh |
| 23:40.16 | andrew[andrboot] | progbably should do that |
| 23:40.29 | Gnurdux | http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/08/28/test-drive-adobe-flash-player-10-rc-in-ubuntu/ so i'm not the only person for whom flash has made weather.com crash |
| 23:40.40 | Geek`N`Proud | abrotman, I do something similar to that myself |
| 23:40.46 | Geek`N`Proud | is it really that dangerous? |
| 23:40.50 | abrotman | doesn't make it smart |
| 23:41.00 | abrotman | mixing almost always results in explosions |
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| 23:41.20 | ofl_ | how can i set the global variables to kde 4 , because i using a testing repository, and i have been updating the system, but the kde does not look the correct gtk libraries path |
| 23:41.21 | Gnurdux | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=892099 this is the same problem too (i had that exact same console output. as i meantioned) |
| 23:41.28 | abrotman | ofl_: ask #debian-kde |
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| 23:42.16 | Geek`N`Proud | is careful only to use things like the NVIDIA kernel source packages and non-free bits >.> |
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| 23:42.25 | ofl_ | there in everybody is sleep :( |
| 23:42.38 | ofl_ | in #debian-kde |
| 23:42.49 | furrywolf | Geek`N`Proud: I've found avoiding all binary blobs to make life much better. especially the nvidia video drivers. |
| 23:43.21 | alexxoid | abrotman: do you means that the mixing the different distributions is a bad idea? |
| 23:43.33 | abrotman | yes |
| 23:43.45 | Geek`N`Proud | furrywolf, i'm too addicted to tremulous for that :$ |
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| 23:43.59 | furrywolf | tremulous? |
| 23:44.06 | alexxoid | -t flag ? |
| 23:44.26 | abrotman | what bout it? |
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| 23:44.30 | Geek`N`Proud | furrywolf, Q3A-engine based FPS |
| 23:44.48 | Geek`N`Proud | avoid using the -t flag |
| 23:44.54 | Geek`N`Proud | that is bad |
| 23:44.55 | furrywolf | dunno. not a gamer. |
| 23:45.07 | Geek`N`Proud | instead do package/release |
| 23:45.12 | seria-mau | talk about addiction: urban terror demands ati graphics here :/ |
| 23:45.41 | furrywolf | I got sick of nvidia's drivers and ati's crap analog output, and got an old Matrox card for 5 bucks. best decision ever. :) |
| 23:46.05 | Geek`N`Proud | furrywolf, I would do that except for the warnings i've been given about voltages |
| 23:46.28 | furrywolf | eh? |
| 23:46.45 | Geek`N`Proud | apparently older cards are like playing with fire and can short out a newer motherboard - especially in the case of AGP |
| 23:46.56 | furrywolf | never had a problem... |
| 23:47.07 | alexxoid | abrotman: as I know, when you have defined the preferences config, and you are using simple apt-get install package, it will setup the package from the high priority distribution. all dependences will be installed following this rules... |
| 23:47.14 | furrywolf | nor can I see any way that could be true. the notch changes positions based on voltage, no? |
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| 23:48.32 | Gnurdux | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=456432 |
| 23:48.34 | Geek`N`Proud | furrywolf, not sure there.. I used to work as a volunteer for a place that demanufactured and rebuilt cheap PCs |
| 23:49.23 | furrywolf | bbl, too sick to stay at computer... going to go vegetate on the couch. |
| 23:49.29 | Geek`N`Proud | kk ^^ |
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| 23:50.58 | alexxoid | abrotman: of course, debian known as high stable system, but I didn't want to wait when KDE4.2 (for ex.) will be available in stable repo... |
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| 23:51.45 | Geek`N`Proud | perhaps i'm insane but how could anyone *want* KDE 4.x? |
| 23:52.36 | Geek`N`Proud | it still isn't 100% ready |
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| 23:53.00 | seria-mau | are you familiar with the concept of curiosity? :) |
| 23:53.45 | avu | that's what live CDs are for ;) |
| 23:54.46 | ofl_ | does somebody use testing repository ? |
| 23:54.55 | ix | Yes. |
| 23:54.55 | seria-mau | aye. |
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| 23:55.18 | ix | ofl_: Glad to be of assistance. |
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| 23:55.24 | ix | :-) |
| 23:55.43 | alexxoid | Geek`N`Proud: I can ask you the same question about KDE 3.5.x |
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| 23:56.00 | abrotman | s/3.5.x// |
| 23:56.14 | raz0 | woosh |
| 23:56.32 | cirzgamanti | hi, any idea how to set spindown timeout of sata disks? hdparm won't do it, and i can't find anything that does it in the sdparm man page. |
| 23:56.40 | ofl_ | ix, so i have got one problem, i have been updating a packages for 20 minutes ago and gtk applications didnt work it |
| 23:57.13 | ofl_ | ix, so i have got this error message : /opt/ff3en/firefox/firefox-bin: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libbonobo-2.so.0: undefined symbol: g_dgettext |
| 23:57.32 | foetus | Geek`N`Proud: Nothing against KDE :) |
| 23:58.16 | themill | ofl_: not from a debian package you didn't |
| 23:58.40 | ix | ofl_: You shouldn't ask me specifically. All people are here to help. And what themill said. |
| 23:58.42 | abrotman | ofl_: install iceweasel .. problem solved |
| 23:59.27 | ofl_ | themill, so if exported an LD_LIBRARY_PATH to /usr/lib and work it all gtk applications |
| 23:59.43 | foetus | Geek`N`Proud: the critical thing is, that 3.5.5 on etch goes like gum..the rest of the system works real good.. |