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| 00:00.41 | ofl_ | but when i started the desktop , the terminal doesnt see the LD_LIBRARY_PATH but i added "export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib" to etc/bash.bashrc |
| 00:00.46 | foetus | Geek`N`Proud: so i must build my own kde, maybe..i 've done it on gentoo, so why not under debian.. |
| 00:01.08 | Federico2 | bye bye |
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| 00:01.28 | themill | foetus: what's wrong with lenny? |
| 00:01.33 | seria-mau | foetus: <sarcasm>to bad it's not 4.x. with them the graphics drivers are at fault</sarcasm> |
| 00:01.41 | ofl_ | and if i was started a terminal, and i looked my global variables env | grep LD the LD_LIBRARY_PATH was exists |
| 00:02.07 | abrotman | ofl_: install iceweasel .. problem solved |
| 00:02.23 | foetus | seria-mau: you mean, why oldstable? |
| 00:02.34 | ofl_ | abrotman, not the firefox the problem , eclipse, xchat and others applications was write in gtk didnt work it |
| 00:02.45 | seria-mau | foetus: no, kde 4.x |
| 00:02.50 | abrotman | ofl_: did you compile those also? |
| 00:03.24 | alexxoid | ofl_: xulrunner ? |
| 00:04.19 | foetus | seria-mau: better a stable 3.5x, i will test kde 4x later, i think.. |
| 00:04.19 | keith4_ | uh.... i just upgraded a box to lenny, and now when it boots, it doesn't seem to know what LVM is |
| 00:04.20 | themill | ofl_: why are you fiddling with LD_* at all? |
| 00:04.24 | keith4_ | or rather, attempts to boot |
| 00:04.50 | foetus | seria-mau: i have no experiences with it |
| 00:05.31 | seria-mau | foetus: well. to me it seems like every problem related to bad kde 4.x performance is blamed on bad graphics drivers |
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| 00:05.42 | ofl_ | themill, because the problem is the next: the kde4 doesnt see the LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable |
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| 00:06.01 | themill | ofl_: whatever it is you're doing... you're doing it all wrong. |
| 00:06.26 | ofl_ | what am i doing it wrong ? |
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| 00:07.27 | themill | ofl_: whatever it is you're doing. You should never need to muck around with LD_*. |
| 00:07.45 | seria-mau | themill: i use that, too |
| 00:07.46 | ofl_ | everything was good, before i updated a new packages |
| 00:08.11 | Geek`N`Proud | foetus, or upgrade to lenny |
| 00:08.15 | bolt | EUREKA! |
| 00:08.17 | Geek`N`Proud | where it's KDE 3.5.10 |
| 00:08.41 | Geek`N`Proud | (my bad, already mentioned) |
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| 00:09.14 | foetus | Geek`N`Proud: no! |
| 00:09.31 | Geek`N`Proud | lenny is now debian stable don't forget |
| 00:09.52 | bolt | okay, new problem: in "OpenSSH_4.7p1 Debian-12" (etch) a \ in the ssh banner is displayed as such. in "OpenSSH_5.1p1 Debian-5" (lenny) a \ is displayed as \\, screwing up ascii art in banners. how can I get lenny's ssh to display banners like it used to? |
| 00:10.01 | WX_0 | Gnurdux: Try the Opera browser - i386 flash 10 was stable back on etch for me with epiphany, iceweasel, Opera, etc - now, with amd64 on lenny, even the unstable flash 10 remains stable |
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| 00:11.14 | Gnurdux | WX_0, k ill try |
| 00:11.31 | WX_0 | Good luck. |
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| 00:11.48 | foetus | Geek`N`Proud: its a little bit to early, i fear, i've tested the 26th kernel - too slow this time.. |
| 00:12.14 | foetus | Geek`N`Proud: but good and interesting features |
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| 00:12.35 | foetus | Geek`N`Proud: we have time :) |
| 00:13.54 | Gnurdux | wow |
| 00:14.01 | Gnurdux | flash works, and no weather.com crash! |
| 00:14.02 | Gnurdux | thanks |
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| 00:14.12 | Gnurdux | although id prefer to stay with firefox |
| 00:14.14 | theholyduck | always use flashblock + nonfree flash :P |
| 00:14.25 | theholyduck | Gnurdux, opera has flashblock aswell :P |
| 00:14.42 | theholyduck | flash takes a MASSIVE amount of resources. and only annoy you 90% the time |
| 00:14.53 | theholyduck | so much easier to have it blocked until you click on a flash element |
| 00:14.57 | Gnurdux | flashblock blocks flash that you dont explictly enable? |
| 00:15.00 | ofl_ | how do i downgrade to lenny because i am using a testing and debian-desktop repos |
| 00:15.01 | Gnurdux | that sounds like a good idea |
| 00:15.10 | theholyduck | Gnurdux, blocks all flashes you dont click on :P |
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| 00:15.37 | theholyduck | but displays a right size box indicating that there should be flash here |
| 00:15.45 | theholyduck | and not ruining site layouts |
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| 00:16.44 | foetus | theholyduck: don't use the plugin, and the problem is gone.. |
| 00:17.05 | theholyduck | foetus, but sometimes you want flash :P |
| 00:17.17 | theholyduck | i know i do. and gnash isnt always good enough |
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| 00:17.30 | theholyduck | thus the best solution in my book is block it cept when you need it |
| 00:17.45 | foetus | theholyduck: there are problems with newest flash not only under linux.. |
| 00:18.03 | Akuw | i need to install X11 development libraries, zlib development libraries and Ming (www.libming.org) development libraries |
| 00:18.11 | Akuw | how can i install them |
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| 00:18.25 | foetus | theholyduck: i solved the problem with an older plugin (9) |
| 00:19.24 | abrotman | i can't believe you're still all discussing the merits of flash |
| 00:19.38 | abrotman | Akuw: apt-cache search ming dev |
| 00:19.52 | Akuw | but x11 libraries? |
| 00:20.00 | abrotman | same thing? |
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| 00:20.52 | foetus | abrotman: or adobe :) |
| 00:20.55 | keith4_ | why the hell did 2.6.26 suddenly decide it won't understand LVM? |
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| 00:24.22 | [vr_] | What audio system does the current stable debian use by default ? |
| 00:24.27 | bzed | alsa |
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| 00:25.59 | [vr_] | so package libasound2 ? |
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| 00:27.33 | bzed | [vr_]: depends what you want to do. I guess what you really want is to describe your problem and ask a proper question |
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| 00:28.53 | [vr_] | i have audio (SPDIF) working but cannot hear plain stereo audio. Using an intel hd audio card. |
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| 00:29.11 | [vr_] | Seems to be the opposite problem of what most users post on the internet.... |
| 00:29.27 | [vr_] | by spdif I mean 5.1 audio |
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| 00:30.23 | subsume | I'm getting ./usr/sbin/mysqld: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: invalid ELF header. How can I find out which library installed that? |
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| 00:30.26 | subsume | so I can reload it. |
| 00:30.44 | subsume | nvm |
| 00:32.51 | abrotman | !qotd0 |
| 00:32.51 | dpkg | from memory, qotd129 is <robin_sz> where can I get debian for windows XP? |
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| 00:34.06 | Fredhgl | what is the official debian is brazilian portuguese? |
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| 00:34.48 | abrotman | huh ? |
| 00:34.50 | abrotman | !br |
| 00:34.50 | dpkg | Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 00:35.12 | abrotman | http://debian.org/index.pt.html |
| 00:35.50 | Akuw | i am installing salasaga-0.8.0~alpha5 |
| 00:36.00 | Akuw | i need to install X11 development libraries, zlib development libraries and Ming (www.libming.org) development libraries |
| 00:36.27 | Akuw | but using apt-cache i got a list, but don't know what of that package i nee |
| 00:36.30 | Akuw | need |
| 00:36.32 | abrotman | Akuw: i told you how |
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| 00:36.58 | SirTophat | I know I used to know how to do this but I forgot how to mount a usb device |
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| 00:37.33 | abrotman | create a mount point .. get the device .. marry them together ina mount command |
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| 00:37.53 | SirTophat | I know that |
| 00:37.59 | SirTophat | I mean forming the mount ocmman |
| 00:38.05 | abrotman | is it fat32? |
| 00:38.16 | SirTophat | I thought it was mount /dev/usb1 vfat /mnt or osmeting like that |
| 00:38.23 | SirTophat | yeah it's fat32 |
| 00:38.29 | abrotman | mount -t vfat <device> <mountpoint> |
| 00:38.42 | SirTophat | ok thx |
| 00:39.51 | SirTophat | I can't get it to work with usb usb1 usb2 usb3 etc .-. |
| 00:40.00 | abrotman | /dev/sda1 ? |
| 00:40.02 | abrotman | for example |
| 00:40.12 | SirTophat | oh that would be usb? |
| 00:40.31 | SirTophat | nah |
| 00:40.38 | abrotman | use dmesg to find out |
| 00:40.49 | SirTophat | oh |
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| 00:41.35 | SirTophat | ehci_hcd was it apparently but that's not it |
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| 00:44.25 | SirTophat | ? |
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| 00:44.42 | Akuw | is salasaga available in some repository? |
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| 00:52.00 | null_ | debian os |
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| 00:53.49 | jjmiv | anyone here familiar with apache? |
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| 00:54.29 | null_ | jjmiv: #apache |
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| 01:01.10 | jjmiv | null_: good idea |
| 01:02.33 | Agrajag- | i've got a bit of a networking problem where i have an exim4 server behind nat, so on the gateway machine i forward port 25 to exim4. i want the exim4 box to relay from all local addresses.. the problem is, it's becoming an open relay because it thinks all connections are coming from the gateway box. how can i stop this from happening? |
| 01:03.13 | Agrajag- | i'm not 100% certain but this may have only started since i upgraded to lenny |
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| 01:06.09 | Younix | wtf? |
| 01:06.36 | Hacker | hi does any one know where to download CD image of Linux Server which already included old version of Apache, Mysql and Php? |
| 01:06.58 | abrotman | old version? |
| 01:07.01 | simonrvn | cd image of linux server? what does that mean? |
| 01:07.06 | null_ | Ubuntu.com! |
| 01:07.09 | abrotman | null_: stop |
| 01:07.19 | null_ | hmm is that a bot? |
| 01:07.25 | null_ | Ubuntu.com! |
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| 01:07.39 | simonrvn | ty |
| 01:07.44 | abrotman | null_: you've been silenced for 10 minutes, keep it on-topic |
| 01:07.53 | furrywolf | if abrotman's a bot, I think we're going to need turing tests for everyone here. :) |
| 01:08.01 | WX_0 | furrywolf: Me first! |
| 01:08.04 | simonrvn | furrywolf: hey :) |
| 01:08.10 | furrywolf | simonrvn: ltns :) |
| 01:08.21 | simonrvn | indeed. how you been? |
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| 01:08.53 | furrywolf | busy, broke, lonely, the usual. |
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| 01:09.17 | simonrvn | :/ |
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| 01:09.54 | abrotman | wasn't furrywolf the one with the busted gf's k3b ? |
| 01:10.00 | simonrvn | brb, need to restart this session... updates |
| 01:10.05 | simonrvn | dunno |
| 01:10.26 | monkey_d_luffy | I'm having a problem with my ipod nano with amarok (first time using it on my pc, but worked fine on another pc). I think the problem is in the way it is mounted. In konqueror I have system:/media/sdc/iPod_Control/Music/f02/nind.m4a while amarok tries to open the file file:///media/I P O D/iPod_Control/Music/F02/NIND.m4a Case sensitive issues? Any ideas? |
| 01:10.38 | furrywolf | abrotman: not a gf, and jelly's help for switching back to etch's version worked great. |
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| 01:11.03 | monkey_d_luffy | do I need to make my mount case sensitive? |
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| 01:11.23 | Hacker | i mean |
| 01:11.34 | furrywolf | haven't had a gf in way too long... every woman I meet around here is either a pothead bimbo, meth-addicted trailer trash, or insane christian nutjob... |
| 01:11.44 | furrywolf | so no gfs to help with linux. :P |
| 01:12.27 | furrywolf | Hacker: do you want something to install on your computer, or something that runs entirely from a cd? |
| 01:12.34 | Hacker | I'm setting up a lab for student of network security course. I need old version of linux which already have Apache, mysql and php on it for student to practice hack into it |
| 01:12.56 | Hacker | do you know where can I find such thing :) |
| 01:13.04 | furrywolf | nope. |
| 01:13.29 | Hacker | does anyone know ? please help me |
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| 01:13.56 | abrotman | doesn't see why an old version helps |
| 01:14.08 | furrywolf | you can try looking for a very old version of redhat or something, but you're not likely to find any version with more than a few (or any) remote security holes. |
| 01:14.13 | Hacker | abrotman: I'm setting up a lab for student of network security course |
| 01:14.18 | abrotman | and? |
| 01:14.37 | Hacker | older versions have many vulnerabilities |
| 01:14.39 | furrywolf | most security holes are patched relatively quickly... you might want to assemble by hand an installation of known-insecure versions of various programs. |
| 01:14.44 | abrotman | you want to give them intentionally known bad versions so they know they can fail ? |
| 01:14.52 | Hacker | yes |
| 01:15.01 | Hacker | just a demonstration |
| 01:15.05 | Hacker | not a high level course |
| 01:15.09 | AcTiVaTe | Like Oracle 9? :P |
| 01:15.11 | abrotman | would think you would just grab any distro and compile the broken bits |
| 01:15.50 | Hacker | abrotman: I failed doing that |
| 01:15.51 | Hacker | :( |
| 01:15.57 | abrotman | you're not a very good teacher |
| 01:16.02 | Hacker | I'm not a teacher |
| 01:16.17 | abrotman | even worse admin ? |
| 01:16.24 | Hacker | I'm a student too |
| 01:16.49 | furrywolf | lab assistant. :) |
| 01:16.56 | Hacker | yeah |
| 01:17.01 | abrotman | sounds like a kid playing games .. |
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| 01:17.18 | Hacker | abrotman: instead of ask questions, could u please help me? |
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| 01:18.22 | furrywolf | Hacker: I don't think anyone here knows off the top of their head which old versions of which distributions have easy remote exploits published. you'll need to do some research on your own. |
| 01:18.42 | Hacker | apache 1.3 mysql 4 and php4 |
| 01:18.52 | Hacker | that's what I need :) |
| 01:19.01 | furrywolf | there are many versions of apache 1.3. |
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| 01:19.09 | furrywolf | same with each of the three things you listed. |
| 01:19.09 | Hacker | any of them is fine |
| 01:19.13 | furrywolf | some are far more secure than others. |
| 01:19.14 | Hacker | < 1.33 |
| 01:20.16 | Hacker | I'm wondering if old livecds have such things on ? |
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| 01:21.45 | abrotman | maybe you should ask ##linux ? |
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| 01:26.32 | furrywolf | simonrvn: so what have you been up to? |
| 01:26.55 | simonrvn | a lot |
| 01:27.24 | simonrvn | which can be summed up as taking care of my family, friends, community, and myself |
| 01:27.46 | furrywolf | heh |
| 01:27.58 | furrywolf | at least it sounds like you've been accomplishing something! |
| 01:27.58 | gaintsura | is it possible to pass 2 arguments to apt-get at the same time? like apt-get remove thunar , install pcmanfm |
| 01:27.59 | gaintsura | ? |
| 01:28.36 | simonrvn | aptitude install pcmanfm thunar- |
| 01:29.05 | simonrvn | for apt-get it'd be apt-get --purge install pcmanfm thunar- |
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| 01:30.13 | gaintsura | thanks |
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| 01:37.42 | foetus | lets go to bed now.. |
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| 01:42.06 | VampirePenguin | does anyone know why fam would have an open port to listen on |
| 01:43.14 | abrotman | only open to localhost |
| 01:44.26 | VampirePenguin | mine is open as such *:1007 local addy; *.* foreign addy |
| 01:44.35 | VampirePenguin | hows going abrotman |
| 01:44.43 | abrotman | hi |
| 01:45.27 | abrotman | can you paste the actual line from netstat -plunt ? |
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| 01:46.12 | maxagaz | why the MTU of a server shouldn't be too high ? |
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| 01:47.12 | id10t | 'lo all |
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| 01:47.44 | VampirePenguin | !paste |
| 01:47.45 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! |
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| 01:48.38 | id10t | ? re: apache2/ssl - if i want multiple subdomains can i use one ssl cert? eg foo.example.org foo2.example.org foo3.example.org - all on the same IP |
| 01:49.11 | VampirePenguin | http://rafb.net/p/JUab7h60.html |
| 01:49.13 | VampirePenguin | abrotman, ^^ |
| 01:49.22 | id10t | and if so, can i get a cert for *.example.org ? |
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| 01:49.45 | abrotman | VampirePenguin: check the fam config file .. that seems odd |
| 01:50.15 | VampirePenguin | what am i looking for specifically |
| 01:50.38 | xoz | VampirePenguin: because some routers can't process big mtus and have to divide them into smaller chunks? |
| 01:51.00 | VampirePenguin | i think my routers are 1500 mtus |
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| 01:51.39 | abrotman | xoz: wrong person |
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| 01:53.16 | xoz | abrotman: haha |
| 01:53.39 | xoz | maxagaz: http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/MTU.htm |
| 01:54.10 | xoz | VampirePenguin: ignore my post to you. it was for maxagaz |
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| 01:55.59 | bdelin88 | does anyone know how i could restore my debian keyboard shortcuts program? the one from the system menu installed by default... i just installed a bunch of thinks like compiz...ooo...and some other things and it wiped out all my keyboard shortcuts except for the sound and display categories |
| 01:56.33 | VampirePenguin | np xoz |
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| 01:57.04 | bdelin88 | anyone? |
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| 01:57.18 | xoz | bdelin88: where did you place the config? |
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| 01:57.34 | xoz | bdelin88: or are you using gnome config? |
| 01:57.39 | Quicken2k | hi I heard there was a way to install debian into the windows boot.ini file and does anyone use this method when dualbooting? |
| 01:57.54 | bdelin88 | xoz: i am just using the System->Prefs-> Keyboard Shortcuts::: all that displays for keyboard shortcuts is "sound" and "display" section, everything else is just gone |
| 01:57.56 | VampirePenguin | abrotman, i found the line..... local_only =true instead of false |
| 01:58.13 | VampirePenguin | ty man appreciate it its reading just off of localhost now |
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| 01:58.37 | VampirePenguin | i dont do smb or nfs or anything is portmap really necessary |
| 01:58.39 | abrotman | local_only=true .. sounds right |
| 01:58.44 | xoz | Quicken2k: http://www.geocities.com/epark/linux/grub-w2k-HOWTO.html |
| 01:58.54 | VampirePenguin | ya that fixed it right up |
| 01:59.18 | Quicken2k | ty xoz |
| 02:00.17 | xoz | bdelin88: maybe, you can or move the .gnome* related configs in your home dir and relogin so that gnome will reinstall them in your homedir. |
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| 02:00.49 | bdelin88 | xoz: which ones are related to that? would compiz have done this? |
| 02:01.35 | xoz | bdelin88: i think check in your homedir... try ls -ltra and check the latest changes |
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| 02:02.51 | bdelin88 | xoz: yea i got the list up, what am i lookin for |
| 02:03.32 | xoz | bdelin88: anything with .gnome or .config is a suspect. |
| 02:03.34 | bluethundr | I was just hired by a new web startup |
| 02:03.46 | bdelin88 | xoz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/125084/ |
| 02:03.52 | bluethundr | the founders have made an awful choice |
| 02:03.55 | xoz | bdelin88: try creating another user and login from there. check if it works |
| 02:04.00 | bluethundr | to run apache on Win23k!!! |
| 02:04.01 | bluethundr | idiots |
| 02:04.11 | bluethundr | I need to convince them to convert to a stable os |
| 02:04.14 | bluethundr | I am pitching debian |
| 02:04.17 | xoz | bdelin88: if it works, the latest dot files you can copy |
| 02:04.29 | xoz | bdelin88: from the new user |
| 02:04.42 | bluethundr | can anyone point me to a good business case to be made for debian/ubuntu over other distros? |
| 02:04.50 | bdelin88 | xoz: k... i'll brb then and try that |
| 02:04.59 | bluethundr | especially over winLOSE? |
| 02:05.02 | dondelelcaro | bluethundr: cost+support+administrator time+in house expertise |
| 02:05.14 | bluethundr | sounds good |
| 02:05.16 | dondelelcaro | bluethundr: that's pretty much what you're looking at |
| 02:05.21 | bluethundr | part of the prob is the hosting plan |
| 02:05.25 | bluethundr | godady |
| 02:05.33 | bluethundr | they only support centos/redhat |
| 02:05.42 | xoz | bluethundr: and passionate users and developers |
| 02:05.46 | bluethundr | I would need to manhandle the server to handle debian |
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| 02:05.52 | bluethundr | right, sounds good |
| 02:06.08 | bluethundr | are these points made on any web pages? |
| 02:06.17 | bluethundr | could use a link to mail these losers |
| 02:06.19 | dondelelcaro | !tell bluethundr -about why debian |
| 02:06.37 | dondelelcaro | bluethundr: as far as hosting, I'd suggest linnode or similar instead. |
| 02:06.52 | xoz | bluethundr: and of course the transparent packaging and scripting which you can hack anytime if the need arises. all debian package are in text files unlike redhat which are unreadable rpms |
| 02:07.08 | bluethundr | ahhh good good good |
| 02:07.10 | bluethundr | like |
| 02:07.16 | bluethundr | fucking win |
| 02:07.32 | bluethundr | sorry for swearing |
| 02:07.34 | maxagaz | xoz, thanks |
| 02:07.36 | bluethundr | won't happen again |
| 02:07.50 | xoz | maxagaz: np |
| 02:08.06 | bdelin88 | xoz: do i need to login to the new user for changes to take effect? |
| 02:08.19 | bluethundr | thing is, there is no changing their minds about using exchange on win.. that parts fune. do both exchange and postfix (of course I prefer the latter) |
| 02:08.25 | bluethundr | so one server has to be win + exchange |
| 02:08.40 | bluethundr | other (hopefully) debian or ubuntu running apache + tomcat |
| 02:08.42 | xoz | bdelin88: yes. the moment you login, gnome will init you homedir and will create config for the desktop. |
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| 02:09.24 | xoz | bdelin88: if the desktop is ok, that means something is wrong with your config in your default user |
| 02:09.29 | bdelin88 | aight 1 sec got to log out i guess |
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| 02:10.03 | xoz | he should have used screen |
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| 02:11.54 | icedtea | how do you get <windows.h> in Debian, through the wine source package? |
| 02:12.29 | gmap | how do I auto login debian terminal? |
| 02:12.32 | xoz | is ecstatic for resurrecting a very old 600mhz pIII notebook using debian. without linux, this thingy is already dead. |
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| 02:13.49 | Texou | hi |
| 02:13.49 | gmap | how do I auto login debian terminal? |
| 02:13.52 | bdelin88 | xoz: ok yep you are right, the preferences are just fine on the new suer |
| 02:13.57 | bdelin88 | xoz: new user* |
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| 02:14.17 | Texou | does someone know how I can make "cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/*/temp*" jork on a desktop with Debian? |
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| 02:15.05 | elik | Texou, errr, you need acpi for that |
| 02:15.27 | elik | Texou, what do you mean by making it work? |
| 02:15.32 | elik | Texou, what doesn't work? |
| 02:15.59 | bdelin88 | xoz: you there? |
| 02:16.00 | xoz | bdelin88: ok, so ls -a should list the dotfile dirs that you need to backup in your default user |
| 02:16.08 | bdelin88 | xoz: k |
| 02:16.12 | Texou | elik: when I do that, ?I can't get the temperature of my cpu |
| 02:16.29 | elik | Texou, and you'd probably be interested in comp temp, which is a nice gnome applet |
| 02:16.33 | bdelin88 | xoz: how should i do this? just mv everything over to my usr's directory and overwrite everything? |
| 02:16.39 | xoz | bdelin88: you can mv them to a different location |
| 02:16.49 | xoz | bdelin88: no |
| 02:16.51 | elik | Texou, what does it say? |
| 02:17.16 | xoz | bdelin88: just rename the ones you have to a different filename and relogin to have a new one. |
| 02:17.23 | Texou | elik: "comp temp" is a command? |
| 02:17.30 | bdelin88 | xoz: ah ok gotcha |
| 02:17.36 | elik | Texou, no, a program |
| 02:17.44 | bdelin88 | xoz: all of the ones with a dot on them? |
| 02:17.53 | elik | Texou, computertemp sorry |
| 02:17.59 | Texou | ok |
| 02:18.03 | xoz | bdelin88: the ones that you can see in the new user... yeah the dotdirs |
| 02:18.04 | Texou | I search forit |
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| 02:18.27 | elik | Texou, aptitude install computertemp |
| 02:18.35 | Texou | elik: ok |
| 02:18.36 | bdelin88 | xoz: sry..just to clarify the user that is having the problem right, that is who i need to do this to |
| 02:18.43 | Texou | elik: I check :D |
| 02:18.45 | elik | Texou, and then you can add as an aplet in your pannel |
| 02:18.48 | xoz | bdelin88: probably, the new upgrade made changes to the new config so your old confg is no longer readble |
| 02:18.56 | xoz | bdelin88: yep |
| 02:19.05 | bdelin88 | k |
| 02:19.20 | xoz | bdelin88: but check the contents from the new user to have an idea which dotdirs to rename |
| 02:19.28 | bdelin88 | xoz: rgr |
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| 02:19.30 | Texou | installing |
| 02:19.40 | wimpies | Hi all, I just noticed while encoding a file using threads that the processes uses 200% CPU time on my quad core Intel. This seems fine but until now (using regular applications) I never noticed a total higher than 100 even not when summing up the top CPU consuming processes. Could it be that the scheduled does not use the cores and only schedules on one ? |
| 02:19.51 | JordiGH | Did gnome 2.24 make it into unstable? |
| 02:20.00 | xoz | bdelin88: this is the shortcoming of packaging, it cannot suggest changes to your homedir config, only in the /etc |
| 02:20.21 | abrotman | wimpies: using which tool ? |
| 02:20.29 | gmap | how can I start debian as root without having to enter the username and password? |
| 02:20.35 | abrotman | JordiGH: use packages.debian.org to look |
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| 02:21.04 | xoz | debian packaging during install should sound a warning if the homedir .config needs changes similar to /etc/ configs when a new config defaults are needed |
| 02:21.09 | Texou | elik: once installed where does it appear in gnome (lenny)? |
| 02:21.19 | JordiGH | dpkg says: nope |
| 02:21.19 | dpkg | i haven't a clue, JordiGH |
| 02:21.31 | xoz | s/.config/any dotconfig |
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| 02:21.42 | JordiGH | Oh, different question. I've never known what package version names that have a colon in them mean. |
| 02:22.23 | elik | Texou, right click on a panel and choose Add to panel, it will be in the list |
| 02:22.49 | wimpies | abrotman : ps |
| 02:23.12 | xoz | takes a break |
| 02:23.17 | abrotman | wimpies: if you use top and then hit the '1' (one) .. make more sense ? |
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| 02:24.34 | wimpies | abrotman : Muccho better thanx. |
| 02:24.44 | Texou | elik: what do you mean by "pannel"? the desktop? ...? |
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| 02:28.00 | Texou | stupid question but I dont find the equivalent of shis Engbish notion |
| 02:28.14 | Mox` | how do I give a computer a static ip when it connects to my dhcp server? |
| 02:28.37 | streuner_ | Mox`: set it up in your dhcp client |
| 02:28.38 | elik | Texou, that is english.. but eh. You know, where your applications go when the open... and where you have the menus |
| 02:28.55 | Mox` | streuner_ I can't make my dhcp server do it? |
| 02:29.00 | elik | Texou, if you click an empty space, you can add it |
| 02:29.11 | Texou | ok I see I think |
| 02:29.12 | streuner_ | Mox`: sure |
| 02:29.15 | Texou | I try |
| 02:29.17 | Texou | thanks |
| 02:29.18 | Mox` | streuner_ how? |
| 02:30.18 | streuner_ | Mox`: is that a hardware-router? |
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| 02:30.33 | Mox` | streuner_, normal pc running linux :) |
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| 02:31.18 | Mox` | streuner_, i've found a guide, but thanks :) |
| 02:31.24 | bdelin88 | xoz: well this is funny |
| 02:31.39 | bdelin88 | xoz: nothing in my problematic usr directory is in the new user directory lol |
| 02:31.51 | dzup | http://www.bored.com/scarystories/thewoods.swf |
| 02:32.40 | abrotman | dzup: #debian-offtopic |
| 02:32.50 | andrew[andrboot] | hi, why am i only getting 30kB/s from a mirror :( |
| 02:32.56 | andrew[andrboot] | rather from mirrors.kernel.oirg |
| 02:33.11 | abrotman | andrew[andrboot]: that's just how some of them are |
| 02:33.22 | bdelin88 | xoz: you there xoz? :) |
| 02:33.26 | andrew[andrboot] | need to speed it up o.o |
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| 02:34.03 | abrotman | !tell andrew[andrboot] about apt-spy |
| 02:34.07 | gmap | how do you auto login? |
| 02:34.14 | abrotman | to what? |
| 02:35.17 | andrew[andrboot] | abrotman, im a silly aussie.. id on't know wher ein the us my server is located... :p |
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| 02:36.29 | andrew[andrboot] | ooh |
| 02:36.32 | andrew[andrboot] | i see what it does |
| 02:36.32 | andrew[andrboot] | kewl |
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| 02:38.20 | BaronVonOwn | hello everyone, i am trying to use my debian box as a gateway, most everything is working for clients except quake wars and steam. help? |
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| 02:43.59 | gmap | how do you get .xsession to run on start up. right now I have to do startx manually |
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| 02:44.28 | sobersabre | hi. I want to convert png image into gd2. |
| 02:44.37 | pl4yer0ne | gmap, you normally would run xdm|kdm|gdm |
| 02:44.38 | sobersabre | is there a ready to use script/app for this in debian ? |
| 02:44.53 | sobersabre | I didn't find anything with apt-cache search pngtogd |
| 02:45.00 | sobersabre | or on "gd2" |
| 02:45.23 | pl4yer0ne | sobersabre, I dont know that extension but you could try imagemagick |
| 02:45.28 | gmap | pl4yerOne |
| 02:45.31 | sobersabre | no it doesn't work... |
| 02:45.39 | sobersabre | I mean it doesn't know this format. |
| 02:45.40 | aburch | sobersabre: convert foo.png foo.gd2 (imagemagick) |
| 02:45.46 | sobersabre | tried this. |
| 02:45.48 | gmap | pl4yerOne I am using ratpoison as my window maanger |
| 02:45.50 | sobersabre | good idea, |
| 02:45.54 | sobersabre | but doesn't work. |
| 02:46.30 | sobersabre | any other ideas ? |
| 02:46.42 | pl4yer0ne | gmap, use xdm then and set the session to what you want |
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| 02:47.52 | AcTiVaTe | sobersabre: What's GD2? Can you give a link to some info on the extension? Never heared of it. |
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| 02:48.31 | piper69 | howdy |
| 02:49.13 | pl4yer0ne | gmap, sorry just realised you mentioned ratpoison, you could stick startx in your login script. |
| 02:49.25 | aburch | sobersabre: libgd-tools: /usr/bin/pngtogd2 |
| 02:49.41 | aburch | sobersabre: apt-file and Google be praised ;) |
| 02:49.52 | abrotman | !find bin/pngtogd2 |
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| 02:50.18 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'bin/pngtogd2' (1): (/usr/bin/pngtogd2) in graphics/libgd-tools. |
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| 02:52.53 | sobersabre | aburch: what have you used as search string ? |
| 02:52.58 | gmap | pl4yerOne how can I run startx on startup? would that be in /etc/init.d |
| 02:53.07 | sobersabre | AcTiVaTe: lookup on gd2 |
| 02:53.13 | abrotman | sobersabre: aptitude install apt-file ; apt-file update; apt-file search pngtogd2 |
| 02:53.37 | sobersabre | abrotman: oh... it's a toolsie! |
| 02:53.39 | sobersabre | thanks. |
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| 02:53.49 | abrotman | toolsie indeed |
| 02:54.56 | JordiGH | update-manager is apt-get, right? |
| 02:55.12 | piper69 | my wireless keybard start showing weird stuff in the screen, like unknow keypress transcode!!! |
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| 02:55.38 | pl4yer0ne | gmap, I would put it on the very end of whatever shell you use login script |
| 02:55.53 | sobersabre | thanks all, good night. |
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| 02:56.00 | gmap | pl4yerOne where can I find that script? |
| 02:56.19 | abrotman | !run at startup |
| 02:56.20 | dpkg | Make a init script by copying /etc/init.d/skeleton, put it in /etc/init.d/ then install it with update-rc.d, or read /etc/init.d/README, or as a user you can also use a cron entry with @reboot, or add it to /etc/rc.local |
| 02:56.30 | abrotman | and you can use that to startx as whatever user you want |
| 02:56.38 | pl4yer0ne | depends on your shell but its probably something like /home/<username>/.bashrc |
| 02:57.09 | pl4yer0ne | thats not very secure though abrotman |
| 02:57.44 | abrotman | did you ask him if it needs to be? |
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| 02:57.57 | pl4yer0ne | your system should always be secure |
| 02:58.02 | abrotman | i believe his original question was how to auto login |
| 02:58.12 | abrotman | seems security isn't his main concern |
| 02:58.13 | gmap | i dont mind security |
| 02:58.13 | pl4yer0ne | and its easier in this instance to do it the right way anyway |
| 02:58.20 | gmap | but what ever works |
| 02:58.36 | abrotman | both ways will work .. one involves your intervention, the other does not |
| 02:58.45 | pl4yer0ne | yeah ok fair enough |
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| 02:58.46 | gmap | i dont want intervention |
| 02:58.52 | gmap | how do I autologin and startx |
| 02:59.04 | abrotman | and if you only want X to run one app .. that's possible also |
| 02:59.13 | gmap | yea |
| 02:59.26 | gmap | it will run iceweasle |
| 02:59.31 | abrotman | is that all? |
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| 02:59.47 | gmap | yea and a bunch of background scripts |
| 02:59.53 | gmap | daemons |
| 02:59.58 | pl4yer0ne | what is this for gmap ? |
| 03:00.00 | abrotman | like a uhm .. /me can't remember the name |
| 03:00.18 | gmap | its a touchscreen kiosk |
| 03:00.23 | abrotman | that's the word! |
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| 03:00.29 | gmap | :) |
| 03:00.30 | abrotman | could only remember konsole sadly |
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| 03:00.59 | pl4yer0ne | ahh ok then yeah do it the init.d way |
| 03:01.01 | gmap | debian powers on > auto login > startx |
| 03:01.42 | pl4yer0ne | so much easier when you know what the actual issue is |
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| 03:01.51 | gmap | yea, sorry for being breif |
| 03:01.56 | keith4_ | i have a mythfrontend that does that |
| 03:01.58 | abrotman | it's okay .. i got it! |
| 03:02.07 | keith4_ | auto logs in, starts fluxbox... startx xterm, starts mythfrontend |
| 03:02.08 | gmap | but how can it auto login? |
| 03:02.43 | keith4_ | http://pastebin.com/d55441fa3 |
| 03:03.10 | pl4yer0ne | gmap it will do that because you run your X startup as a user |
| 03:04.06 | gmap | keith4 thx |
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| 03:04.56 | gmap | pl4yerOne i made a new file in /etc/init.d and made it executable i rebooted but it didnt run startx |
| 03:05.11 | gmap | the file contains #! /bin/sh |
| 03:05.14 | gmap | startx |
| 03:05.31 | pl4yer0ne | yeah because that aint how it works |
| 03:05.54 | pl4yer0ne | init.d contains scripts but you make them run somehwere else |
| 03:06.01 | piper69 | i did apt-get update, its been more that 15min now stuck at 99% [Connecting to ftp.ekhis.org (82.98.86.179)] |
| 03:06.06 | piper69 | is this normal |
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| 03:06.21 | pl4yer0ne | !run at startup |
| 03:06.21 | dpkg | Make a init script by copying /etc/init.d/skeleton, put it in /etc/init.d/ then install it with update-rc.d, or read /etc/init.d/README, or as a user you can also use a cron entry with @reboot, or add it to /etc/rc.local |
| 03:06.31 | keith4_ | piper69: it's stalled. stop it and try again |
| 03:07.08 | gmap | ok ill try wha dpkg said thx |
| 03:08.05 | Texou | well as I didn't find I tried lm-senso r |
| 03:08.22 | Mox` | if I have 2 netcard and are rangeing 2 different ip's, can I just use host name { hardware ethernet mac; fixed-address blabla; } and then i work on both eth1 and eth2 where i'm running dhcpd? |
| 03:08.25 | Texou | do you think that's normal'? "http://pastebin.com/m26b89ec0" |
| 03:08.56 | piper69 | can someone please check http://paste.debian.net/29547/ and tell me what i am doing wrong |
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| 03:09.40 | xoz | which is more efficient for sharing files between os x and linux? NFS, samba, or appletalk? |
| 03:09.56 | piper69 | xoz: samba |
| 03:10.25 | elik | piper69, for some reason, your mirror is down |
| 03:10.31 | xoz | piper69: can you enlighten me? |
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| 03:11.02 | piper69 | elik: maybe because of the rain , how can i choose another one |
| 03:11.56 | elik | piper69, because of the rain... I doubt it... I'd hope this server has a roof... :P |
| 03:12.20 | elik | piper69, I know the hard way (file editing), but I'll let someone else point you to another way (GUI) |
| 03:12.20 | piper69 | elik: hahahahahahaha |
| 03:12.31 | elik | piper69, how long has it been like that? |
| 03:12.57 | piper69 | elik: well, to be honest i haven't touch my box for almost 2-3 month now |
| 03:13.24 | piper69 | now friends are comping over and want to watch somemovies and now i got this |
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| 03:13.34 | elik | uh, ok |
| 03:13.40 | elik | then you need to change your mirror |
| 03:13.58 | pl4yer0ne | piper69, are you using gnome? |
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| 03:14.10 | piper69 | pl4yer0ne: yes |
| 03:14.30 | piper69 | in the paste i 've done it from sources.list |
| 03:14.32 | pl4yer0ne | ok in the main menu if you go into System and then Administration |
| 03:14.44 | piper69 | ok |
| 03:14.47 | pl4yer0ne | there is Software sources in there |
| 03:15.12 | andrew[andrboot] | hey abrotman how do i tell if i am using stable/unstable/testing ? |
| 03:15.32 | abrotman | look at your sources.list .. but based on what you flooded before, you are using them all |
| 03:15.38 | Texou | well :) dont know |
| 03:15.38 | andrew[andrboot] | umm |
| 03:15.40 | andrew[andrboot] | lol. |
| 03:15.40 | elik | lol |
| 03:15.42 | pl4yer0ne | you can select the first tab to change your debian repository |
| 03:15.45 | andrew[andrboot] | say i don't have the apt-soruces list :p |
| 03:15.50 | andrew[andrboot] | rofl. |
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| 03:16.27 | andrew[andrboot] | gonna try stable |
| 03:16.37 | Joelito | hi all...anyone know if dotgnu is the debian repos? |
| 03:16.50 | abrotman | andrew[andrboot]: it's not something to laugh about |
| 03:17.04 | abrotman | Joelito: mono is? |
| 03:17.28 | Joelito | abrotman it is, I was trying to use portable .net from gnu's |
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| 03:18.28 | abrotman | i don't see it in lenny |
| 03:18.47 | andrew[andrboot] | eh i have stable lol. |
| 03:18.49 | andrew[andrboot] | thank crap for that |
| 03:19.06 | Joelito | abrotman: had to compile from source? |
| 03:19.15 | Joelito | havd* |
| 03:19.18 | Joelito | have** |
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| 03:23.22 | gmap | pl4yerOne i still dont get how to use init.d |
| 03:23.25 | tuv | since upgrading to lenny, apcupsd does not detect my apc ups anymore. did anyone see similar behaviour? the ups is listed in /proc/bus/usb/devices but apcupsd won't see it |
| 03:23.29 | bdelin88 | does anyone know why compiz keeps killing my keyboard shortcutz? |
| 03:23.32 | bdelin88 | xoz: you there? |
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| 03:24.32 | piper69 | pl4yer0ne: i couldn't find it |
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| 03:24.51 | bdelin88 | anyone out there that can help |
| 03:25.10 | piper69 | elik: show the what to do please in the sources.list file |
| 03:25.19 | pl4yer0ne | do you see "synaptic package manager" |
| 03:25.26 | tuv | bdelin88, not sure, but i think in gnome, gnome-settings-daemon manages keyboard shortcuts. so make sure it's running |
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| 03:25.53 | bdelin88 | tuv: where can i find the gnome-settings-daemon? |
| 03:25.56 | elik | piper69, follow pl4yer0ne, it will be easier |
| 03:26.02 | piper69 | pl4yer0ne: yes |
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| 03:26.16 | pl4yer0ne | ok run that |
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| 03:26.36 | tuv | bdelin88, make sure it's running by: 'ps ax | grep gnome-settings' in a terminal. if nothing is listed, start it by 'gnome-settings-daemon' in a terminal |
| 03:26.58 | pl4yer0ne | then in its settings menu at the top choose repositories |
| 03:27.20 | bdelin88 | 3073 ? Sl 0:00 gnome-settings-daemon :::: 3405 pts/0 R+ 0:00 grep gnome-settings |
| 03:28.03 | piper69 | pl4yer0ne: ok am there |
| 03:28.19 | bdelin88 | tuv: 3073 ? Sl 0:00 gnome-settings-daemon ::: 3405 pts/0 R+ 0:00 grep gnome-settings --it looks like it's running |
| 03:28.22 | piper69 | what shall i do |
| 03:28.29 | pl4yer0ne | ok thats the software sources i mentioned before, just a different way to get into it |
| 03:28.36 | tuv | is anyone having problems with apcupsd in lenny after the upgrade. it used to see my ups, now it doesn't 'cannot find UPS device' |
| 03:28.45 | tuv | bdelin88, looks like it's running |
| 03:28.45 | pl4yer0ne | in the first tab it probably has nothing |
| 03:29.03 | pl4yer0ne | go to the second tab and your non working source lines will show up |
| 03:29.12 | pl4yer0ne | "third party software" |
| 03:29.43 | bdelin88 | tuv: i just know that when compiz starts it dies, it has to do with the config file or something\ |
| 03:29.57 | tuv | bdelin88, sorry. no idea |
| 03:30.19 | bdelin88 | tuv: the shortcuts still work... the only ones that are still listed though are under the "sound" and "display" categories though... |
| 03:30.25 | bdelin88 | tuv: hmm alright... well thanks anyways i guess |
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| 03:30.53 | pl4yer0ne | piper69, i'll /query you it will be easier not to miss anything important |
| 03:31.32 | tuv | bdelin88, well if you mean the window management shortcuts (maximize etc) then that's expected. those are handled by the window manager, which is usually metacity in gnome. but since you're using compiz, it's another window manager and has its own shortcuts |
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| 03:35.08 | Compaqt | what should I do if, during INIT, "Starting MTA" stays on the screen for about 40 seconds? |
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| 03:35.20 | Compaqt | I'd like to get rid of whatever it is trying to start |
| 03:36.20 | tuv | Compaqt, this sometimes happens if your network is not up. so either make sure your network, if any, is set up correctly, or disable/uninstall your mta (exim4 by default) |
| 03:36.34 | abrotman | Compaqt: fix your /etc/hosts file |
| 03:36.59 | Compaqt | thanks |
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| 03:41.05 | piper69 | how can i update the repositories |
| 03:41.14 | piper69 | for etch n 1/2 |
| 03:42.18 | abrotman | you odn't .. the packages were placed in the normalrepos |
| 03:42.28 | abrotman | apt-cache search etchnhalf |
| 03:42.46 | piper69 | i am tryinng to do an update and i can't |
| 03:42.53 | abrotman | update to what? |
| 03:43.05 | piper69 | i am trying to instal vlan |
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| 03:46.58 | Out_Cold | i'm trying to install a VM OS and i'm not sure how to find out what my ethernet card is.. any ideas? |
| 03:47.08 | piper69 | abrotman: how can i install vlan |
| 03:47.24 | pl4yer0ne | abrotman, they are using old busted servers for their sources and just need to use a current server |
| 03:47.45 | pl4yer0ne | but etches GUI shit is different from what i remember |
| 03:47.54 | pl4yer0ne | so I have confused us both |
| 03:47.59 | pl4yer0ne | (sorry piper69 ) |
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| 03:48.27 | abrotman | piper69: a vlan or vlc ? |
| 03:48.45 | pl4yer0ne | vlc - they want to watch moofies |
| 03:51.20 | nsadmin | Out_Cold: what's a vm os? |
| 03:51.25 | piper69 | my GOD i hate Cisco, i have been studying subnets and Vlan |
| 03:51.27 | piper69 | lol |
| 03:51.30 | piper69 | VLC |
| 03:51.40 | Out_Cold | deian in Vbox |
| 03:51.45 | Out_Cold | *debian |
| 03:52.20 | nsadmin | is networking supported within vbox? |
| 03:52.22 | Mox` | hmm i get this error when I start my computer: kernel panic not syncing vfs...? how to fix? |
| 03:52.30 | Out_Cold | i think so.. i'm not sure.. |
| 03:52.39 | Out_Cold | first time with both debian and vbox |
| 03:53.02 | nsadmin | Out_Cold: why vbox, btw? |
| 03:53.17 | Out_Cold | well i already have an OS |
| 03:53.27 | Out_Cold | wanted to test out debian without the new partitions |
| 03:53.40 | keith4_ | there's a debian live cd |
| 03:53.40 | abrotman | lspci |
| 03:53.52 | abrotman | Out_Cold: use lspci to see which NIC it has |
| 03:54.05 | abrotman | vbox should be simulating a PCI network device |
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| 03:54.17 | Out_Cold | 09:00.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8040 PCI-E Fast Ethernet Controller (rev 12) <--- not in the list.. |
| 03:54.24 | Out_Cold | or wrong info |
| 03:54.32 | abrotman | seems wrong |
| 03:54.38 | abrotman | lspci on the debian system, not the host |
| 03:54.55 | Out_Cold | oh.. i am only in the install.. |
| 03:55.04 | Out_Cold | haven't gotten it past the network yet |
| 03:55.12 | abrotman | you could just skip that part .. you can do it later |
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| 03:55.47 | nsadmin | Out_Cold: what are you using to install? |
| 03:55.53 | Out_Cold | cd 1 |
| 03:55.54 | abrotman | debian |
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| 03:56.19 | nsadmin | would that have the equiv of netinst? |
| 03:56.41 | abrotman | it's the same installer |
| 03:56.51 | Out_Cold | i think so. i tried the netinst cd and had similar problems.. |
| 03:57.12 | nsadmin | ok, try skipping network config and let it do all the rest |
| 03:57.24 | nsadmin | or, |
| 03:58.12 | Out_Cold | yea, i gave it a 192.168.1.x IP and have moved on |
| 03:58.37 | nsadmin | you could try alt-F2 (which should say something like "hit enter to activate shell") (and note carefully... to come back, do alt-F1) |
| 03:58.47 | abrotman | or just skip it |
| 03:58.48 | nsadmin | hit enter, type lspck |
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| 03:58.51 | bluethundr | the founders are holding on to godaddy for supplying the server. they will only do red hat distros. but suggested that a remote install of debian might be possible. how? |
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| 03:59.08 | abrotman | !tell bluethundr about debootstrap |
| 03:59.16 | bluethundr | ah nice |
| 03:59.35 | Out_Cold | alt-f2 is not working.. |
| 03:59.38 | bluethundr | they will give no physical access to the serve. won't even reboot the server with a cd in or a usb key |
| 03:59.45 | Loctrice | I have the same problem with kubuntu and debian. on niether program can I get my desktop to come up. its a funny visual screen but no desktop. I have no internet in linux so I cant dl the drivers. any ideas? |
| 03:59.53 | Out_Cold | ctrl-alt-f# works for my host though |
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| 04:00.10 | bluethundr | and wondering why debian would be better than ubuntu server? |
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| 04:00.34 | fructose | What would be a good Debian-based LiveCD for recovery/backup-type stuff? |
| 04:00.41 | nsadmin | bluethundr: perhaps you should go to a different provider |
| 04:00.41 | xoz | bluethundr: ubuntu is based on debian |
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| 04:01.01 | Loctrice | I had debian first , since it was recommended by a friend, I got kubuntu because it said it was "friendlier" for ppl coming from windows |
| 04:01.05 | nsadmin | if you want somethign they refuse to provide, tell them to pee up a rope |
| 04:01.08 | Out_Cold | crap... ok i'm going to learn a bit more on this Vbox before i continue.... "No Disk Drive Detected" |
| 04:01.33 | Out_Cold | no HD no eth no nothing lol |
| 04:01.37 | bluethundr | yes, ubuntu is based on debian. I'd go with deb. but they are more interested in ubuntu server due to the frequency of updates and support from canonical. |
| 04:01.58 | dondelelcaro | bluethundr: for a server, you'll actually find that you don't want it updating all that frequently |
| 04:02.10 | bluethundr | ah.. good to know |
| 04:02.24 | xoz | sometimes, friendly help to such an extent that you don't know what's going on because your friend hides you from the real complexity is a disadvantage in th future. |
| 04:02.28 | dondelelcaro | bluethundr: if you went with Ubuntu, for example, you wouldn't want to use anything but one of their LTS releases |
| 04:02.40 | bluethundr | ah, ok |
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| 04:03.03 | dondelelcaro | (which release with frequency on the order of Debian's release cycle) |
| 04:03.06 | bluethundr | but you would have the option of not updating that often? |
| 04:03.16 | Mousey | also ubuntu is for people/companies that aren't comfortable supporting themselves |
| 04:03.17 | dondelelcaro | bluethundr: nope, because they aren't supported |
| 04:03.24 | Out_Cold | dondelelcaro, well that's not very correct with security patches... you want your server's protection updated regularly do you not? |
| 04:03.26 | bluethundr | oh i see |
| 04:03.30 | nsadmin | bluethundr do they give you a serial console? |
| 04:03.30 | tuv | why is this kernel option disabled in debian: # CONFIG_USB_HIDDEV is not set |
| 04:03.38 | bluethundr | yes, they do |
| 04:04.09 | nsadmin | perhaps you can reboot from that? |
| 04:04.45 | dondelelcaro | tuv: it is set? |
| 04:05.49 | tuv | dondelelcaro, hmm.. apparently not in all arch's. in arm it is disabled (although older kernels seem to have had it enabled!) |
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| 04:09.27 | asus | i have debian fresh install no boot |
| 04:09.39 | asus | says missing file directory |
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| 04:11.19 | bluethundr | I think this should help: http://www.underhanded.org/papers/debian-conversion/remotedeb.html |
| 04:11.29 | asus | can some one assit me |
| 04:11.37 | asus | cant load kernal |
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| 04:12.09 | Tully | DCC SEND hugeniggersluts 0 0 0 |
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| 04:16.52 | nsadmin | I'd like to see where debian sets the time parameters, like timezone and wheter it assumes the hwclock is utc |
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| 04:18.14 | celthunder | hello what packages do i need to install for 32 bit apps in a 64 bit install? |
| 04:18.20 | celthunder | like libraries etc |
| 04:18.49 | maxagaz | how to list all the symbolic links of a directory recursively ? |
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| 04:20.42 | WX_0 | celthunder: That depends on what you plan to in 32-mode |
| 04:21.10 | celthunder | run a simple script |
| 04:21.15 | celthunder | and 1 or 2 programs |
| 04:21.20 | celthunder | im not running x or anything |
| 04:21.22 | celthunder | its a server |
| 04:21.30 | nsadmin | well a script uses an interpreter |
| 04:22.01 | nsadmin | and the interpreter is usually a binary executable... there's no 32/64 bit issue there |
| 04:22.28 | celthunder | http://pastebin.com/m7fbb6287 |
| 04:22.44 | celthunder | last time i had that issue on a different distro i just installed the 32 bit libraries and it worked |
| 04:24.11 | nsadmin | hidsupdatetool is not the script? |
| 04:24.58 | celthunder | no |
| 04:25.07 | celthunder | thats 1 of the 2 programs that are 32 bit that i need |
| 04:25.08 | nsadmin | maybe you could look at ldd hidsupdatetool.bin |
| 04:25.14 | keith4_ | wow. the roundcube packages are in an.... interesting state |
| 04:25.24 | nsadmin | then you'll know what it it needs |
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| 04:25.58 | dondelelcaro | !tell newsense -about set the time |
| 04:26.03 | celthunder | all that returns is "not a dynamic executable" |
| 04:26.33 | nsadmin | oh, howbout file hidsupdatetool.bin |
| 04:26.49 | newsense | dondelelcaro: ? |
| 04:27.00 | dondelelcaro | newsense: er, sorry. |
| 04:27.10 | newsense | :) |
| 04:27.11 | dondelelcaro | !tell nsadmin -about set the time |
| 04:27.50 | dondelelcaro | nsadmin: if you have more questions about it, feel free to ask |
| 04:28.09 | nsadmin | ok, so... Mon Mar 2 04:27:58 UTC 2009 |
| 04:28.16 | nsadmin | that's my date -u |
| 04:28.20 | nsadmin | seems wrong :) |
| 04:28.28 | dondelelcaro | nsadmin: nope, it's right. |
| 04:28.54 | nsadmin | ack. never mind... I'm totally wrong |
| 04:28.59 | nsadmin | everything's fine |
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| 04:38.10 | dga | i am trying to install debian 5.0 and when the installation tries to load, i get MP-BIOS BUG: 8254 Timer not connected to IO-APIC and it stops there. any ideas? |
| 04:38.31 | dondelelcaro | dga: try booting with noapic or similar; see the boot options on the grub output |
| 04:38.32 | liable | try booting with 'noapic' |
| 04:38.42 | dondelelcaro | err, syslinux install pages, rather. |
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| 04:40.41 | dga | what does booting with noapic do? disables acpi? |
| 04:40.58 | dondelelcaro | dga: yes |
| 04:41.31 | dondelelcaro | (well, some parts of it, IIRC. I honestly always forget where acpi, apic and the other bits begin and end) |
| 04:42.10 | dga | hmm |
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| 04:47.45 | stoned | hey guys |
| 04:48.17 | stoned | I upgraded etch to lenny today on my other older box and apt-listbugs informed me of iceweasel having grave bugs |
| 04:48.49 | stoned | something about IW not working after an upgrade... I wonder why/how this version of the package made it into stable |
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| 04:49.13 | stoned | shouldn't it have prevented the release it seems a critical bug to the functioning of iceweasel |
| 04:49.26 | stoned | (just curious, if anyone has an idea, please advise) |
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| 04:56.07 | nkuttler | stoned: i just install the real firefox and have done since... dunno, when the security team couldn't keep up with upstream |
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| 04:57.36 | dga | is there a way to install debian without sacrificing acpi features with the noapic? |
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| 04:58.54 | stoned | oh no I wasn't looking for a fix/workaround |
| 04:59.19 | stoned | I was looking for some answer as to how/why that bug made it into stable |
| 04:59.25 | stoned | it doesn't make sense to me |
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| 04:59.42 | psufan | hi |
| 04:59.44 | psufan | i've got a question |
| 04:59.52 | stoned | we've got answers |
| 05:00.05 | psufan | how can i go about replacing my car management system's OS with Debian? |
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| 05:00.19 | bridgette | Hi, what program can I use to share my webcam on IRC? |
| 05:00.21 | psufan | it's a BMW |
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| 05:00.29 | xoz | change your car :0=) |
| 05:00.36 | quicken2k | how can I access my NTFS drives on Debian? |
| 05:00.41 | Mousey | bridgette: skype |
| 05:00.45 | stoned | quicken2k, /msg dpkg ntfs-3g |
| 05:00.48 | xoz | !ntfsrw |
| 05:00.48 | dpkg | If you want read/write access to NTFS filesystems, ask me about <ntfs-3g> or use ntfsmount from ntfsprogs |
| 05:00.58 | Mousey | haha wot? |
| 05:01.04 | stoned | quicken2k, for read only, simply mount -t ntfs /dev/whatever /mount/point |
| 05:01.06 | bridgette | Mousey: can anyone see my webcam or just u |
| 05:01.20 | psufan | i'd like to put Debian on my car |
| 05:01.26 | Mousey | *shrug* |
| 05:01.35 | bridgette | then u could watch my cam in ur car |
| 05:01.37 | psufan | it already has a touchscreen nav system for the display |
| 05:01.38 | bridgette | hehe |
| 05:01.39 | Mousey | bridgette: the IRC protocol has no notion of webcam integration |
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| 05:01.47 | stoned | psufan, can you interface with the electronics system in your car using software of non-linux kind? |
| 05:01.48 | bridgette | oh |
| 05:01.52 | nkuttler | stoned: not sure about policy here. should grave bugs block releases? anyway, there was a mail on dd short before release about such issues |
| 05:01.53 | stoned | is your electronic system moddable? |
| 05:01.55 | bridgette | i just want to show my webcam people on irc |
| 05:01.59 | bridgette | :'( |
| 05:02.01 | gateway_ | is there a really slim xvid decoder that will not have choppy playback on a pentium 3 450? |
| 05:02.05 | psufan | stoned well i found the computer, some PC boards im sure itll work |
| 05:02.07 | stoned | the only car I know of late that is moddable is the suburu, forgot the model |
| 05:02.11 | gateway_ | vlc skips every few seconds |
| 05:02.13 | psufan | but there is only a PS/2 or a MIDI port |
| 05:02.32 | xoz | gateway_: mplayer? |
| 05:02.39 | quicken2k | just want to be able to read some music off them to play while I'm in linux is all |
| 05:02.39 | Mousey | bridgette: well any solution will have no direct relation to IRC itself |
| 05:02.42 | bridgette | put linux on your actual car computer? sounds like a great way to fuck your car up beyond repair |
| 05:02.53 | Mousey | depends on the car |
| 05:02.54 | psufan | bridgette: i want to open source my car |
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| 05:02.59 | Mousey | plenty of cars run linux |
| 05:03.01 | gateway_ | xoz mplayer errors out repeatedly trying to play it |
| 05:03.04 | psufan | yea exactly |
| 05:03.08 | quicken2k | it would probably be worse if the car ran vista |
| 05:03.11 | psufan | but how can i put linux onto a computer through MIDI port? |
| 05:03.15 | bridgette | Mousey: you mean the actual computer that comes witht he car? |
| 05:03.38 | xoz | gateway_: vlc is the best option i think. if it is choppy, maybe your system is too slow |
| 05:03.45 | gateway_ | xoz: it is :( |
| 05:03.50 | Mousey | bridgette: not necessarily. but you can plug a linux box into your odb-2 connector and tune your EFI while you drive |
| 05:03.52 | Mousey | that kinda stuff |
| 05:04.01 | gateway_ | in windows i know coreavc is better for slower machines than ffdshow, iw as hoping there was something like that for linux |
| 05:04.10 | stoned | its not a computer, it doesn't contain a MMU etc. its a hardware programmed control board |
| 05:04.21 | xoz | gateway_: what is the specs |
| 05:04.29 | stoned | it doesn't contain any storage devices either |
| 05:04.38 | bridgette | oh |
| 05:04.39 | gateway_ | 450 MHz p3 192 MB of memory with a 3dfx voodoo graphics card |
| 05:04.43 | bridgette | can i use a webcam with that |
| 05:04.47 | gateway_ | xoz it will rip your face off it's so fast :( |
| 05:04.51 | Mousey | bridgette: yah... um, no. |
| 05:04.53 | psufan | stoned plenty of embedded CPUs run linux |
| 05:04.58 | bridgette | what do u guys do for work |
| 05:05.02 | psufan | the issue here is how to install linux via MIDI port |
| 05:05.11 | stoned | psufan, it sounds like you know what you're doing |
| 05:05.13 | psufan | it has SSD storage |
| 05:05.14 | stoned | good luck. |
| 05:05.29 | *** join/#debian Deepa^bum (i=deepy@magician.snakeporno.com) |
| 05:05.30 | quicken2k | debian says: invalid mount pount point when attempting to mound volume.RIght click on the drive I wanted to mount in My Computer |
| 05:05.38 | bridgette | lol i bet i am the only stripper that uses linux |
| 05:05.43 | Mousey | bridgette: depends who you ask. i'm a janitor for a high school |
| 05:05.46 | bridgette | i got this computer at a yard sale |
| 05:05.47 | xoz | bridgette: we are debian evangelist :) |
| 05:05.50 | bridgette | has linux on it |
| 05:05.51 | stoned | !sunday |
| 05:05.51 | dpkg | Sunday is the day all trolls swarm to #debian, avoid at all cost to remain sane. |
| 05:05.55 | bridgette | i needed a computer |
| 05:05.56 | *** join/#debian qwaza (n=dexter@gateway.geodesic.com) |
| 05:06.01 | pmv | lol |
| 05:06.04 | stoned | !ot |
| 05:06.05 | xoz | !tell bridgette -about sex |
| 05:06.05 | dpkg | Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic (i.e., Debian support); imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. #debian-offtopic is the place for longer off-topic discussions. |
| 05:06.16 | bridgette | i don't do sex don't get your hopes up |
| 05:06.31 | xoz | haha |
| 05:06.38 | bridgette | how do I update debian to a version that can use webcam on irc? |
| 05:06.45 | Mousey | bridgette: on the internet, men are men, women are men, and all the children are fbi agents.. don't worry.. nobody here is under the impression that you might actually be female |
| 05:06.48 | stoned | its not a debian issue |
| 05:07.01 | stoned | debian will only make your webcam work with the system, how you broadcast it is your headache |
| 05:07.04 | bridgette | Mousey: lol i never said i was a woman |
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| 05:07.12 | bridgette | Mousey: my name is bridgette I have a penis |
| 05:07.14 | pmv | everyone on irc is a fat nekkid middleaged man |
| 05:07.16 | pmv | eating chicken |
| 05:07.19 | stoned | use a free webcam website, and tell the people its address, the ones you want to let see your webcam |
| 05:07.22 | Mousey | pmv: i sure am |
| 05:07.27 | stoned | bridgette, enough. |
| 05:07.27 | bridgette | Virgin(n): one w ho uses GNU/linux |
| 05:07.31 | pmv | Mousey, ^5 |
| 05:07.34 | stoned | can you guys please stop feeding this troll? |
| 05:07.36 | bridgette | lulZLZUlzuZl |
| 05:07.40 | Mousey | stoned: i LOVE trolls! |
| 05:07.46 | bridgette | (.)(.) my tits |
| 05:07.49 | bridgette | r u horny yet |
| 05:08.06 | xoz | adds someone in the ignore list |
| 05:08.09 | stoned | bridgette, you like the +b mode don't you? |
| 05:08.30 | bridgette | is b bondage mode? I like that |
| 05:08.43 | Mousey | thinks . o O ( close! ) |
| 05:08.52 | stoned | !ops bridgette is distracting everyone from debian support and is being inappropriate and obnoxious |
| 05:08.52 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: stoned complains about: bridgette is distracting everyone from debian support and is being inappropriate and obnoxious |
| 05:08.55 | bridgette | anyone want to cam chat |
| 05:09.10 | psufan | 誰ãæ¥æ¬èªã§å©ãããã¨ãã§ãã¾ããï¼ |
| 05:09.14 | bridgette | linux(n): os used by virgins who live with their older sister |
| 05:09.23 | bridgette | OMG i love japanese men |
| 05:09.23 | Mousey | waits |
| 05:09.28 | bridgette | want to camchat |
| 05:09.30 | pmv | lol |
| 05:09.34 | xoz | too |
| 05:09.39 | psufan | !ops stoned is flooding |
| 05:09.40 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: psufan complains about: stoned is flooding |
| 05:09.49 | stoned | *sigh* |
| 05:09.58 | pmv | !sunday indeed |
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| 05:10.23 | psufan | !ops pmv is ctcp/ping flooding me |
| 05:10.24 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: psufan complains about: pmv is ctcp/ping flooding me |
| 05:10.28 | xoz | tz is monday already. speaking of time travel. |
| 05:10.36 | stoned | jeezus christ man, stop abusing !ops |
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| 05:10.41 | Charitwo | psufan: /mode psufan +C |
| 05:10.44 | bridgette | it's monday lol |
| 05:10.50 | psufan | +C? |
| 05:10.53 | bridgette | i work on my cam on mondays |
| 05:11.01 | pmv | xoz ^5 timezone buddy |
| 05:11.10 | gateway_ | is there a way i can check if i am using hardware video acceleration for playing back xvids? |
| 05:11.12 | bridgette | anyone want to see me on webcam masturbate while compile kernel? |
| 05:11.18 | stoned | even in pacific time zone its is sunday right now |
| 05:11.30 | xoz | singapore time |
| 05:11.33 | stoned | 2 more hours till monday I think |
| 05:11.37 | stoned | for the west coast |
| 05:11.38 | xoz | 1:11 pm monday |
| 05:11.49 | Mousey | 3 hrs pst |
| 05:11.55 | psufan | !ops how do I install Debian via PS/2 port? |
| 05:11.56 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: psufan complains about: how do I install Debian via PS/2 port |
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| 05:12.04 | stoned | psufan, stop. |
| 05:12.07 | xoz | psufan: stop it |
| 05:12.11 | pmv | loll |
| 05:12.14 | psufan | oooops |
| 05:12.20 | bridgette | psufan: memorize the binary code for all of debian |
| 05:12.29 | pmv | banme itc |
| 05:12.30 | bridgette | then write a mouse driver that sends 1 for left click, and 0 for right |
| 05:12.34 | bridgette | then click your ass off |
| 05:12.43 | psufan | dont be crass bridgette |
| 05:13.04 | Mousey | great, now we don't have any reasons |
| 05:13.04 | bridgette | psufan: do you shave your chest? |
| 05:13.14 | psufan | no |
| 05:13.18 | bridgette | how about wax |
| 05:13.20 | psufan | im not a fucking homo |
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| 05:13.37 | bridgette | lool don't you want to look good when u go to the beach |
| 05:13.42 | xoz | now, added two in the /ignore list |
| 05:13.51 | psufan | there are no beaches in south dakota |
| 05:13.53 | stoned | where the fuck are the ops |
| 05:13.53 | bridgette | xoz: pretend ignore lol |
| 05:14.03 | bridgette | bridgette: shit south dakota huh |
| 05:14.06 | bridgette | er psufan |
| 05:14.11 | bridgette | psufan: are you jon magnuson |
| 05:14.17 | xoz | trying to stay in the sideline for a while |
| 05:14.24 | psufan | !ops stoned is using foul language.. please stop, stoned it is crass |
| 05:14.25 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: psufan complains about: stoned is using foul language.. please stop, stoned it is crass |
| 05:14.38 | bridgette | lol |
| 05:14.42 | gateway_ | htop says the program using the most memory is using 1.2%, how does this add up to 148 MB used? I am sitting at the console doing nothing |
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| 05:14.51 | gateway_ | maybe this is why xvid playback is choppy |
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| 05:14.58 | stoned | ahhh boy |
| 05:15.11 | psufan | gateway use ubuntu if you want better multimedia |
| 05:15.15 | quicken2k | debian need codecs for media? |
| 05:15.27 | bridgette | nothing that isn't in apt. |
| 05:15.28 | Mousey | gateway_: also debian-multimedia.org repository |
| 05:15.33 | bridgette | learn 2 use linux you noob |
| 05:15.44 | pmv | sassed by a stripper |
| 05:15.47 | pmv | tsk |
| 05:15.48 | xoz | gateway_: .001 is very small... |
| 05:16.16 | Mousey | an overweight middle-aged male stripper! |
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| 05:16.25 | bridgette | what version of linux do I need to run microsoft word? |
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| 05:16.41 | quicken2k | it's called windows :) |
| 05:16.42 | valdyn | !sing sunday |
| 05:16.42 | dpkg | Everyday is like sunday... Everyday the tards come to play... |
| 05:16.53 | Mousey | valdyn: ok, that was funny |
| 05:17.11 | psufan | hi |
| 05:17.15 | quicken2k | bridgette, use openoffice |
| 05:17.24 | stoned | valdyn, :( |
| 05:17.26 | psufan | how can i go about replacing my car management system's OS with Debian? |
| 05:17.28 | bridgette | why are you calling me stupid I just want to install word so I can type my college paper and stop stripping |
| 05:17.31 | bridgette | :'( |
| 05:17.44 | werdan7 | let's stay on topic, please |
| 05:17.56 | bridgette | ok |
| 05:17.59 | bridgette | so how do I install word |
| 05:18.00 | Hydroxide | bridgette: Microsoft Word doesn't run on Linux |
| 05:18.03 | miksuh | bridgette: try openoffice :) |
| 05:18.05 | psufan | bridgette: do you have aspergers? |
| 05:18.07 | stoned | oh thank god |
| 05:18.09 | Hydroxide | bridgette: if you want to run Microsoft Word, don't use Linux |
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| 05:18.20 | bridgette | psufan: no but /join #wrongplanet |
| 05:18.21 | bridgette | they do |
| 05:18.23 | Hydroxide | bridgette: if you want to work with Microsoft Word files on Linux, OpenOffice.org can do it |
| 05:18.23 | gateway_ | hmm xvid plays with mplayer if i don't use xfce or kde |
| 05:18.27 | gateway_ | i need bare X and it works |
| 05:18.32 | Wyzard | Hydroxide: bridgette is a troll |
| 05:18.34 | stoned | Hydroxide, watch the backlog real quick |
| 05:18.34 | psufan | bridgette: use WINE for word, or ubuntu |
| 05:18.41 | bridgette | Hydroxide: i don't want to go to some dumb website i want to isntall wrod |
| 05:18.41 | Hydroxide | sees |
| 05:18.41 | stoned | Hydroxide, you are being trolled |
| 05:18.49 | Hydroxide | stops feeding the troll |
| 05:19.00 | bridgette | i'm never gonna graduate now |
| 05:19.01 | stoned | could you kindly rid us of this nonsense? |
| 05:19.01 | Mousey | thanks Hydroxide |
| 05:19.04 | xoz | gateway_: you dont need x. you can watch movie without x |
| 05:19.05 | bridgette | i shoulkdn't have installed linux |
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| 05:19.07 | miksuh | bridgette: openooffice can save documents in word format |
| 05:19.09 | *** mode/#debian [+o Hydroxide] by ChanServ |
| 05:19.10 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@67.223.233.219] by Hydroxide |
| 05:19.10 | *** mode/#debian [-o Hydroxide] by Hydroxide |
| 05:19.31 | xoz | plontk |
| 05:19.32 | psufan | thanks for banning thetrolls |
| 05:19.35 | Hydroxide | bridgette: go play somewhere else. |
| 05:19.39 | stoned | nm |
| 05:19.40 | stoned | thanks |
| 05:19.51 | Mousey | yay! |
| 05:19.51 | psufan | bridgette: use WINE for word, or ubuntu |
| 05:20.17 | Mousey | there should be a trollix, and all the startup scripts should be written in LOLCODE |
| 05:20.29 | stoned | psufan you better behave too |
| 05:20.42 | gateway_ | what's bigger than plain xorg but smaller than xfce without being totally useless? |
| 05:20.52 | stoned | gateway_, uhm.. come again |
| 05:21.07 | stoned | gateway_, you mean just a windowmanager and not a full DE |
| 05:21.07 | Mousey | think of your GUI experience as a 7-layer burrito |
| 05:21.08 | gateway_ | with xfce going i can't play mpeg4 videos because i lack the cpu/memory |
| 05:21.09 | stoned | ? |
| 05:21.14 | Mousey | xfce is some beans and some meat |
| 05:21.15 | xoz | gateway_: try openbox, fluxbox, blackbox |
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| 05:21.18 | Mousey | but Xorg is the tortilla |
| 05:21.20 | stoned | gateway_, I see, try a *box wm |
| 05:21.32 | gateway_ | xorg by itself lets mplayer work, but is pretty bad |
| 05:21.33 | gateway_ | thanks stoned |
| 05:21.44 | psufan | http://xkcd.com/550/ |
| 05:21.44 | miksuh | bridgette: i'm going to graduate and i'm using openoffice :) |
| 05:21.44 | stoned | gateway_, also, increase the swap file size, how much ram and how much swap do you have? |
| 05:22.17 | gateway_ | 512 MB of swap which is barely used and 192 MB of memory |
| 05:22.24 | gateway_ | right now with mplayer going I have 3.2 MB ofmemory free |
| 05:22.28 | dga | what are the effects of booting with 'noapic' and is there a reason i have to do this to get the installation running? |
| 05:22.34 | gateway_ | it has to fit into the 3 MB of ram :/ |
| 05:22.36 | stoned | 192mb is fine |
| 05:22.43 | xoz | !noapic |
| 05:23.03 | valdyn | gateway_: thats not exactly how memory works |
| 05:23.06 | stoned | dude I ran KDE 3.x FULL with java/azureus/limewire/openofice/ mplayer firefox all at the same time on 128mb ram |
| 05:23.21 | stoned | and 866mhz pIII |
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| 05:23.35 | gateway_ | 866 MHz is faster than 450 MHz :( |
| 05:23.36 | xoz | gateway_: less than 600mhz is not good for movie |
| 05:23.37 | stoned | 192 is plenty for even minimal xorg+xfce+video(i had onboard video) |
| 05:23.55 | stoned | you have only 450mhz, thats still doable |
| 05:23.59 | valdyn | gateway_: use mplayer -cache 4096 file.avi or even mplayer -cache 8192 file.avi |
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| 05:24.16 | gateway_ | i'll try it valdyn |
| 05:24.24 | stoned | start watching your memory and see what in the system is taking it, and start reducing things/services/deamons that you don't need |
| 05:24.27 | psufan | how can i go about replacing my car management system's OS with Debian? |
| 05:24.38 | Mousey | 450mhz is a good fileserver for hosting media.. but playing it.. forget HD content.. i ran on dual celeron 433s and SD video was always perfect |
| 05:25.16 | stoned | psufan, I suggest you hit up google |
| 05:25.34 | stoned | psufan, broaden your search criteria, search for your car's model + linux etc. |
| 05:25.42 | psufan | ? |
| 05:25.47 | psufan | what |
| 05:26.02 | Mousey | thinks . o O ( hmmm, bridgette == psufan sockpuppet? ) |
| 05:26.23 | stoned | my back hurts man |
| 05:26.28 | stoned | and it fucking snowed just now |
| 05:26.29 | stoned | wtf |
| 05:26.32 | stoned | like 3 inches of snow |
| 05:26.37 | xoz | psufan: is your hardware even supported by debian? asking these questions without details are pure guess work |
| 05:26.37 | Mousey | all at once? |
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| 05:26.44 | stoned | heh yeah all at once! |
| 05:26.47 | psufan | xoz |
| 05:26.55 | psufan | the issue here is how to install linux via MIDI port |
| 05:27.00 | Mousey | ...my back hurts.. FOOM.. 3" of snow.. |
| 05:27.03 | Mousey | woah |
| 05:27.08 | xoz | psufan: still wrong question |
| 05:27.18 | xoz | psufan: tell us your hardware |
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| 05:27.28 | Mousey | its 4chan night here in #debian |
| 05:27.33 | psufan | well its a BMW |
| 05:27.33 | Mousey | ...aparently |
| 05:27.43 | stoned | :) Anemic, less iron, meaning less less attracted/carried oxygen molecules, meaning body aches from cold temperature. |
| 05:27.44 | Mousey | high end BMWs run windows |
| 05:27.46 | xoz | psufan: you want your BMW to run linux? |
| 05:27.48 | Mousey | actually |
| 05:27.51 | psufan | yes |
| 05:27.56 | Mousey | i've seen them BSOD |
| 05:28.01 | psufan | debian, or probably Ubuntu |
| 05:28.16 | stoned | if you can afford a bmw, I'm sure you can afford to pay soemone to convert your car to linux |
| 05:28.19 | Mousey | nothing like a US$98,000 740il with a BSLD |
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| 05:28.29 | Mousey | bsod even |
| 05:28.34 | psufan | no |
| 05:28.34 | xoz | psufan: the car is BMW, which part of the car you want linux? have you even googled for linux BMW? |
| 05:28.42 | psufan | xoz |
| 05:28.52 | psufan | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:28.52 | stoned | xoz, of course he hasn't, he is a support vampire. |
| 05:28.55 | stoned | leech. |
| 05:28.56 | psufan | ABS etc |
| 05:29.04 | Mousey | the question people aren't asking is why does a BMW have a midi port, and what gives anyone the idea linux can be installed thru it? |
| 05:29.08 | xoz | psufan: what does google say? |
| 05:29.09 | Mousey | calls troll |
| 05:29.15 | psufan | ? |
| 05:29.21 | stoned | google says |
| 05:29.25 | stoned | "?" |
| 05:29.26 | psufan | ABS |
| 05:29.27 | stoned | wow |
| 05:29.44 | psufan | it already has a touchscreen nav system for the display |
| 05:29.57 | psufan | stoned well i found the computer, some PC boards im sure itll work |
| 05:30.05 | psufan | but there is only a PS/2 or a MIDI port |
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| 05:30.10 | stoned | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&rlz=1B3GGGL_enUS311US311&q=bmw+car+linux&btnG=Search&aq=f&oq= |
| 05:30.17 | stoned | dude |
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| 05:30.42 | stoned | its a bmw, if you don't know electronics, hardware or linux internals on various architectures don't fuck with it |
| 05:30.49 | stoned | you'll end up fucking your car pretty bad |
| 05:31.03 | miksuh | peufayou must have too much money if you are going to make experiment like that :) what if your car don't start anymore after you install the os ? :D |
| 05:31.11 | Mousey | http://www.computerweekly.com/Articles/2008/05/15/230693/bmw-drives-towards-in-car-pc-standard.htm |
| 05:31.15 | miksuh | psufan: |
| 05:31.16 | Mousey | buy a newer bmw |
| 05:31.20 | miksuh | heh |
| 05:31.21 | psufan | miksuh: i got insurance |
| 05:31.22 | stoned | first you need to stop asking us questions and go research about your vehicle |
| 05:31.34 | xoz | psufan: i dont know if many of the debian users are using BMW.... because without the proper number, no one will be interested to port debian to that system. |
| 05:31.58 | stoned | please visit debian.org to view the list of architectures debian will work on |
| 05:31.59 | psufan | xoz so im asking u |
| 05:32.07 | xoz | psufan: i have no BMW |
| 05:32.09 | stoned | if you have a supported architecture we can help you |
| 05:32.17 | psufan | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:32.19 | stoned | if not, you need to go to #debian-devel |
| 05:32.26 | psufan | but how can i put linux onto a computer through MIDI port? |
| 05:32.34 | xoz | psufan: im just trying to get info to help you where to get more info about your problem |
| 05:32.37 | Mousey | find another port |
| 05:32.44 | psufan | the issue here is how to install linux via MIDI port |
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| 05:32.52 | stoned | you cannot. |
| 05:32.52 | Mousey | the issue here is lulz |
| 05:33.05 | stoned | you can with a serial port |
| 05:33.07 | psufan | im not a fucking homo |
| 05:33.10 | xoz | psufan: this is not the right channel to answer your question. it is not a familiar problem here. |
| 05:33.27 | stoned | not via a midi port, while yo uinstall using a midi port, who is goign to control that midi port and provide interface to it? |
| 05:33.40 | Mousey | whats a midi port doing in a bmw? |
| 05:33.42 | psufan | there are no beaches in south dakota |
| 05:33.49 | xoz | psufan: simple google can answer you instead of bugging us here. |
| 05:33.50 | Mousey | lulz, see? |
| 05:33.52 | psufan | it has SSD storage |
| 05:33.52 | stoned | once again, if your question is related directly to debian support for its supported architectures you may continue |
| 05:33.58 | psufan | 誰ãæ¥æ¬èªã§å©ãããã¨ãã§ãã¾ããï¼ |
| 05:33.59 | stoned | otherwise you're wasting all our time |
| 05:34.08 | Mousey | gives up, lets people get troleld |
| 05:34.20 | psufan | Mousey: ? |
| 05:34.34 | psufan | it has SSD storage |
| 05:34.38 | stoned | hmm I am thinking about /ignore psufan |
| 05:34.42 | psufan | but the issue here is how to install linux via MIDI port |
| 05:34.49 | Mousey | stoned: joooiiinnn usss |
| 05:34.57 | xoz | psufan: check the debian supported archi. if your system is not there, don't ask questions here.... or else you are just trolling |
| 05:35.04 | psufan | im not a fucking homo |
| 05:35.11 | bazhang | he is trolling |
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| 05:35.23 | psufan | bazhang: u shit up the scene oy |
| 05:35.23 | bazhang | was doing the exact same in #ubuntu |
| 05:35.32 | xoz | !ops psufan is a troll |
| 05:35.32 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: xoz complains about: psufan is a troll |
| 05:35.34 | psufan | dont bring up old blood ya twink |
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| 05:35.47 | Mousey | finally |
| 05:35.54 | Hydroxide | psufan: don't call people twinks, either |
| 05:36.04 | psufan | why? |
| 05:36.05 | stoned | what is a twink? |
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| 05:36.12 | stoned | is it a bad derogatory name calling? |
| 05:36.17 | stoned | i thought it was a candy |
| 05:36.22 | stoned | bar |
| 05:36.25 | Mousey | http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Twink |
| 05:36.27 | Hydroxide | scrolls up and sees a bunch more foul language by psufan |
| 05:36.30 | psufan | u a twink? |
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| 05:36.42 | psufan | sup dawg |
| 05:36.44 | bazhang | psufan, just stop |
| 05:36.46 | stoned | well its not the foul language we filter here |
| 05:36.52 | stoned | its disruptive attitude |
| 05:37.01 | psufan | i got both |
| 05:37.06 | Mousey | stop feeding troll, end of story, right? |
| 05:37.18 | Hydroxide | stoned: to some degree we do both. it's a gay slang term apparently |
| 05:37.24 | stoned | oh |
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| 05:37.41 | stoned | well eitherway its your call |
| 05:37.43 | Mousey | mibbit, on top of things |
| 05:37.44 | Hydroxide | psufan: only for 10 minutes, if you stop trolling after that |
| 05:38.38 | stoned | oh yeah I just read, thats a horrible slur |
| 05:39.11 | xoz | what is the command to know the largest package installed/ |
| 05:39.27 | xoz | has to delete som files from his 5G hd |
| 05:39.30 | stoned | uhm... you'd have to list the packages using aptitude and filter by size |
| 05:39.32 | stoned | hang on |
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| 05:41.00 | xoz | got it from the factoid |
| 05:41.10 | stoned | http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s04s01.html |
| 05:41.15 | stoned | hm.. which factoid? |
| 05:42.27 | stoned | sort by ~installsize |
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| 05:43.07 | stoned | xoz, which factoid? |
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| 05:44.49 | xoz | stoned: sort by package size (listkeys size) |
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| 05:49.29 | quicken2k | I want all sounds to go through my headphones that are plugged into a headphone jack on my soundcard.. They do, but they also go through the speakers as well how can I fix this? |
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| 05:50.15 | Mousey | quicken2k: there's probably a "headphone" switch in your mixer you can check/uncheck |
| 05:50.49 | quicken2k | where is the mixer in KDE 3.5? |
| 05:50.53 | Mousey | quicken2k: also it means the two jacks are on different mixer channels, so turn down the external channel and leave up the headphone channel (whatever they're mapped to) |
| 05:51.00 | Mousey | quicken2k: kmix |
| 05:51.12 | Mousey | also should be an applet in your systray looks like a little speaker |
| 05:51.32 | Mousey | unless you're using pulseaudio |
| 05:51.43 | Mousey | still, same thing tho, nm the pulseaudio comment |
| 05:52.08 | quicken2k | nope just a plug,clipboard and the time |
| 05:52.14 | Mousey | oh, well run kmix |
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| 05:53.17 | bolt | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=505378 how can I find when the fix for this will be in? this breaks a lot of banners on servers I go to. very annoying |
| 05:53.38 | Mousey | subscribe to the bug? |
| 05:53.52 | quicken2k | ok got the speaker by the clock now what? |
| 05:54.05 | bolt | Mousey: but i can only seem to find the original report, not even anyone commenting on it |
| 05:54.16 | bolt | Mousey: and it's from nov 08 |
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| 05:56.01 | psufan | hi |
| 05:56.08 | psufan | sup dawgs |
| 05:56.40 | quicken2k | got thanks for the help |
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| 06:08.37 | psufan | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwMA7yksHTc&eurl=http://www.mibbit.com/chat/?server=irc.freenode.net&channel=%23python |
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| 06:11.30 | Mousey | bolt: dream, man.. maybe they'll really do it |
| 06:12.05 | bolt | i sent a mail on it and asked, instead |
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| 06:12.30 | bolt | the submitted patch is for gentoo's ssh, so they might be waiting for a debian-spefific one or something. i could make that. the fix is quite simple :) |
| 06:12.40 | bolt | hopefully someone replies |
| 06:12.48 | junix | just installed debian 5.0, my video is really slow...how do i force xorg to use the sis driver? or do i need to? |
| 06:12.57 | piper69 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:13.25 | bolt | junix: you might. you can write xorg.conf's like in the old days still. google for a config for your card and copy the relevant sections |
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| 06:13.39 | junix | bolt: thanks! |
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| 06:14.33 | Mousey | bolt: that's awesome |
| 06:15.14 | Mousey | piper69: apt-get -t unstable install xserver-xorg-video-sis |
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| 06:16.25 | piper69 | W: Couldn't stat source package list ftp://ftp.ekhis.org experimental/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.ekhis.org_ekhis_dists_experimental_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems |
| 06:16.49 | Mousey | piper69: sounds like things are missing from your sources.list, try |
| 06:16.55 | Mousey | piper69: apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-sis |
| 06:17.20 | nsadmin | why does that file contain the word "experimental" |
| 06:17.22 | piper69 | same thing |
| 06:17.51 | Mousey | piper69: comment out any of the lines in your /etc/apt/sources.list that contain the word "experimental" then apt-get update again |
| 06:18.28 | Mousey | specifically comment out any line in your sources.list that has the word "experimental" and the url ekhis.org on the same line |
| 06:18.34 | Meta | I need help setting up VirtualBox. |
| 06:18.40 | Mousey | Meta: don't we all |
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| 06:19.00 | Meta | It's whinging about drivers WHICH I CAN'T INSTALL. |
| 06:19.56 | Meta | It loaded vboxdrivers during the boot sequence though |
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| 06:24.27 | cvn | hi is there any www browser where i can get redirection automatically? |
| 06:25.27 | piper69 | Mousey: same thing |
| 06:25.33 | icenine | cvn: what do you mean |
| 06:25.41 | cvn | something like "links" |
| 06:26.03 | cvn | im trying to upgrade my forum, but it takes too much time, i was thinking of using my server to upgrade it when i am offline |
| 06:26.27 | cvn | the forum upgrade uses redirection, which "links" doesnt support, which means i've to manually press "next" to upgrade different stuffs |
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| 06:28.04 | blackgraz | how do i mount a FreeBSD HD in debian |
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| 06:30.59 | mhymn | blackgraz: man mount ? |
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| 06:31.32 | Mousey | piper69: yes, but kmix is a mixer you can draw up and mess with the levels.. also under the preferences you should have access to more channels you can turn on/off |
| 06:31.46 | Mousey | piper69: one of these levels is your headphones, one is your external speakers |
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| 06:32.06 | Mousey | piper69: also there might be an "option" for headphones |
| 06:33.17 | kaiten4 | There is also an option for external amplifier which you may need to control their wireless signals |
| 06:33.47 | piper69 | Mousey: WHAT? |
| 06:34.05 | Mousey | piper69: double-click on the little speaker it put in the systray. does it open the mixer application? |
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| 06:35.19 | clarity_ | hey, I'm having trouble with switching capslock and control on my microsoft natural usb wireless keyboard |
| 06:35.39 | clarity_ | the standard /etc/console/boottime.keymap.gz doesn't work |
| 06:35.49 | clarity_ | neither does editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 06:36.00 | clarity_ | is this the help channel? |
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| 06:39.00 | icenine | clarity_: use xmodmap |
| 06:39.33 | xoz | clarity_: if you are using gnome. goto keyboard setting in the preferences pane |
| 06:39.41 | corinth | I finished installing Lenny about five minutes ago. My internet connection isn't working. My wifi card uses the ath5k driver. Help? |
| 06:39.46 | KenLaptop | Hey guys - when using top - and it says memory free is 1G - it's not including cached memory is it? |
| 06:40.10 | xoz | KenLaptop: use free command instead of top |
| 06:40.15 | xoz | KenLaptop: or vmstat |
| 06:40.26 | blackgraz | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1, |
| 06:40.38 | blackgraz | /dev/sdb1 * 1 121601 976760001 a5 FreeBSD |
| 06:40.47 | blackgraz | # mount -t ufs /dev/sdb1 /storage/ |
| 06:40.54 | thoreauputic_ | interesting happening on sid ppc - after a dist-upgrade cannot login at all - any ideas which package is at fault if any? Tried downgrading libpam-modules... no joy. Managed to boot with init=/bin/bash but all repair attempts have failed so far |
| 06:40.56 | blackgraz | am i doing something wrong? |
| 06:41.05 | clarity_ | xoz: i've tried that and it doesn't seem to work |
| 06:41.28 | xoz | which one clarity_ ? |
| 06:41.49 | clarity_ | it'd work clarity_: if you are using gnome. goto keyboard setting in the preferences pane |
| 06:41.49 | KenLaptop | Thanks xoz |
| 06:42.04 | xoz | clarity_: are you using gnome? |
| 06:42.17 | clarity_ | yeah it's a default install |
| 06:42.22 | clarity_ | oh yeah i'm on a laptop aswell |
| 06:42.26 | clarity_ | so i have two keyboards |
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| 06:43.14 | xoz | clarity_: then make sure you are configuring the appropriate keyboard |
| 06:43.33 | xoz | clarity_: also, if you use gnome, dont use xmodmap. |
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| 06:46.37 | thoreauputic_ | re: not able to log in on sid (ppc) - also can't ssh in (doesn't recognise password). Cannot chroot to the installation either. Running out of options here... |
| 06:46.41 | cvn | is away (offlined.) |
| 06:47.02 | clarity_ | xoz: yeah, it's weird the laptop capslock is control |
| 06:47.13 | clarity_ | but my usb wireless keyboard isn't |
| 06:47.15 | thoreauputic_ | Editing /etc/shadow to allow root login without password also fails |
| 06:47.16 | clarity_ | it's not even capslock |
| 06:47.18 | clarity_ | it does nothing |
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| 06:48.33 | nareshov | wow shamrock |
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| 06:54.59 | clarity_ | thanks btw |
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| 06:56.00 | Panarchy | says Hi |
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| 06:56.30 | swathanthran | ops erc seems broken here.. will come back.. |
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| 06:58.17 | Panarchy | hat is the most fully featured minimal Linux distribution, that uses GNOME? |
| 06:58.31 | Panarchy | What is the most fully featured minimal Linux distribution, that uses GNOME? |
| 06:58.46 | pl4yer0ne | debian |
| 06:58.47 | nareshov | probably 'foresight' |
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| 06:59.04 | amitz | is there any way to cleanly install javadb without sun-java6 (using openjdk instead) using package manager? |
| 06:59.10 | Panarchy | foresight? |
| 06:59.21 | KenLaptop | Is it possible that my kernel is caching memory and not releasing it to applications? |
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| 06:59.48 | amitz | KenLaptop: unlikely, that would be a serious bug |
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| 07:00.26 | amitz | debian lenny |
| 07:00.28 | corinth | I want to find all the packages needed for network-manager-gnome, so I can install it. I have to download the files from windows and transfer them over a usb drive. |
| 07:00.36 | corinth | How do I figure out all the packages needed? |
| 07:00.44 | dondelelcaro | corinth: use apt-zip or similar |
| 07:01.01 | corinth | :I have to download the files from windows" |
| 07:01.04 | corinth | Lol |
| 07:01.13 | dondelelcaro | corinth: uh... you did look at what I said, right? |
| 07:01.21 | thoreauputic_ | hmm OK looks like a second user is recognised and can log in. Problem now is resetting root password. Back later if I can't sort it out |
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| 07:01.57 | stoned | I need to setup version control for some of the projects here, svc, csv, git? whats the word |
| 07:02.00 | corinth | Is apt-zip a windows program, dondelelcaro? |
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| 07:03.47 | mib_jnr2koou | hi |
| 07:04.03 | mib_jnr2koou | hi all |
| 07:04.10 | mib_jnr2koou | some one will pls help me.. |
| 07:04.26 | mib_jnr2koou | i was upgrading debian etch to lenny.. |
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| 07:04.30 | dondelelcaro | corinth: apt-cache show apt-zip; is your friend. |
| 07:04.34 | dondelelcaro | !tell mib_jnr2koou -about ask |
| 07:04.51 | mib_jnr2koou | but in b/t the electricity failed. |
| 07:05.05 | mib_jnr2koou | i could restart the upgrading after wards.. buut |
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| 07:05.15 | mib_jnr2koou | now theres in no fonts in the ui.. |
| 07:05.16 | Jemt | !tell mib_jnr2koou about enter |
| 07:05.31 | Panarchy | I am looking to create my own Linux distribution. Similar to Debris, but with a different Kernel, and more 'updatable'. Here is what I need: 1. Debian based (can use Apt-Get and open/install .deb Packages) 2. Uses GNOME as it's default Desktop Environment 3. Is minimal in size 4. LiveCD | Advice needed! Thanks, Panarchy. |
| 07:05.39 | dondelelcaro | mib_jnr2koou: just continue the upgrade. if the UI doesn't work, use the console to finish the upgrade. |
| 07:05.46 | mib_jnr2koou | in command line i can read everything but... in the graphical mode everything is shown as boxes |
| 07:05.50 | dondelelcaro | Panarchy: why make your own? |
| 07:06.21 | dondelelcaro | Panarchy: your efforts would be better spent using the Debian live project and providing patches if necessary to the other Debian packages to make the distribution you need |
| 07:06.27 | dondelelcaro | Panarchy: you benifit, and Debian benifits |
| 07:06.45 | mib_jnr2koou | but will it be possible to reset the graphical ui afterwards.. |
| 07:07.08 | dondelelcaro | mib_jnr2koou: sure; just logout and log back in |
| 07:07.16 | mib_jnr2koou | im continuing the upgrading now thats not a problem but i doubt whether the gui can be reset |
| 07:07.17 | mib_jnr2koou | > |
| 07:07.18 | mib_jnr2koou | ? |
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| 07:07.40 | dondelelcaro | mib_jnr2koou: it shouldn't be a big deal. Your problem now is just that the font isn't completely installed (or something similar) |
| 07:07.42 | mib_jnr2koou | but now i have been restarted the system several times but the gui is the same.. |
| 07:07.52 | dondelelcaro | mib_jnr2koou: have you completed the upgrade? |
| 07:08.03 | mib_jnr2koou | i can see the background , folders everything but only the fonts are missing../ |
| 07:08.10 | mib_jnr2koou | not yet.. |
| 07:08.13 | dondelelcaro | mib_jnr2koou: do that first. |
| 07:08.15 | mib_jnr2koou | its being done now.. |
| 07:08.20 | mib_jnr2koou | ok |
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| 07:09.56 | mhymn | is there any way to 'boot from hard disk' when debian CD/DVD inserted? |
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| 07:14.24 | stoned | hmm looks like SVN is the winner |
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| 07:15.18 | dondelelcaro | mhymn: no, because there's pretty much no point |
| 07:15.29 | dondelelcaro | mhymn: you can however use the rescue mode, which is presumably what you actuallly want |
| 07:15.47 | stoned | git features are very nice too |
| 07:18.00 | nsadmin | what did svn win |
| 07:18.36 | nsadmin | mhymn bios controls what boots first |
| 07:18.54 | mhymn | i know that |
| 07:19.16 | nsadmin | so if there's "any way" it would have something to do with the bios |
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| 07:22.54 | mhymn | yeah, my bad, didn't notice how virtualbox handles boot options, thanks guys |
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| 07:24.20 | nareshov | hm |
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| 07:24.34 | ranjith_ | hi |
| 07:24.42 | nareshov | !hi |
| 07:24.42 | dpkg | hello, nareshov |
| 07:24.47 | nareshov | !hi @ ranjith_ |
| 07:24.53 | ranjith_ | hi |
| 07:25.03 | ranjith_ | nareshov:hi |
| 07:25.09 | nareshov | hi |
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| 07:36.20 | ranjith_ | Hello i was upgrading my etch to lenny and in b/t i had to restart my sytem after that i could restart the upgradation in cammandline itself but my fonts have gone after restarting and my desktop is like this after restarting http://picasaweb.google.com/ranjithkannikara/DropBox?authkey=Gv1sRgCI3ZncjE3sKeUw#5308489608183303154.. the upgradation is still in progress i have restarted the system several times and the desktop |
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| 07:37.01 | mnguyen | i accidently overwrote my /etc/group and removed myself from all my groups... anybody have an example /etc/group that I could take a look at? |
| 07:37.37 | nsadmin | mnguyen look at man 5 groups |
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| 07:38.07 | mnguyen | nsadmin: it says no entry... |
| 07:38.16 | harpal | ranjith_: Can you paste you xorg.conf file? |
| 07:38.35 | trifler | Is it just me or isen't someone trying to send som shiet over dcc from this channel? |
| 07:38.36 | mhymn | mnguyen: iirc there were also kinda backup file in /etc |
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| 07:38.46 | ranjith_ | trifler:ok one minute |
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| 07:39.14 | mnguyen | mhymn: yeah i noticed that... unfortunately i didn't know that and made changes using usermod and then ended up overwriting my backup too :( |
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| 07:39.29 | mnguyen | mhymn: i mean i didn't realize that earlier.. ;( |
| 07:39.48 | nsadmin | mnguyen look at man 5 group (no s) |
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| 07:40.48 | mnguyen | nsadmin: it only talks about the format... |
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| 07:42.36 | ranjith_ | trifler: http://rafb.net/p/f25qSZ42.html here is the xorg.conf |
| 07:42.52 | ranjith_ | trifler: hello |
| 07:42.57 | nsadmin | mnguyen and so with that knowledge you could form your own example |
| 07:43.07 | nsadmin | plus there may be other examples |
| 07:43.22 | simonrvn | ranjith_: harpal requested that... |
| 07:43.38 | ranjith_ | oh sorry.. |
| 07:43.39 | trifler | I'm confused :) |
| 07:43.52 | ranjith_ | harpal :http://rafb.net/p/f25qSZ42.html here is the xorg.conmf |
| 07:44.01 | ranjith_ | *xorg.cof |
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| 07:44.24 | ranjith_ | harpal: sorry i thought someone else asked me the fie.. |
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| 07:45.34 | ranjith_ | trifler: actually i was asking one doubt and harpal requested one file but i though it was you.. |
| 07:46.05 | ranjith_ | harpal: hello i have sent you the xorg.conf |
| 07:46.12 | ^punisher | sup |
| 07:46.53 | nareshov | ceilin |
| 07:46.57 | harpal | ranjith_: Hey Its OLD xorg file. Lenny xorg file got changed. See here it is http://rafb.net/p/LZp87H95.html |
| 07:47.32 | harpal | ranjith_: I think you have to replace old file with new one with apt-get method with miss-conf file option |
| 07:47.49 | simonrvn | !confmiss |
| 07:47.49 | dpkg | the reason you have to use dpkg --force-confmiss is because whenever your config files (<conffiles>) are gone, dpkg assumes you deleted them on purpose, and that you want them to stay deleted. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename>; or using aptitude, aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" reinstall <packagename>; |
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| 07:48.06 | Gul | hi, i am having problems with mailutils that is terminating my updates, how can i repair this? http://rafb.net/p/MBWggp67.html |
| 07:48.31 | harpal | ranjith_: Earlier I had same problem as you have with lenny, Now After conf-miss method and adding 2 lines to xrog I get it working fine now |
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| 07:48.37 | harpal | ranjith_: brb |
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| 07:49.02 | ranjith_ | harpal: but i havent yet finished upgrading to lenny |
| 07:49.20 | ranjith_ | harpal: the upgradation is still in progress |
| 07:49.33 | dubphil | Hello ! I don't know if it is a PHP, apache2 or Debian issue, when I type # locale on my Debian Lenny or if I do php -r 'echo $_ENV['LANG'];' at command line I get "LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8" but when I do it by apache2 I get "C" I suspect apache2, what must I do to enabled the system variables to be used ? |
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| 07:50.27 | ranjith_ | so is it possible to apt-get now ..? because the #aptitue full-upgrade is being done now.. |
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| 07:50.40 | ranjith_ | harpal so is it possible to apt-get now ..? because the #aptitue full-upgrade is being done now.. |
| 07:50.50 | simonrvn | "the upgrade" - there's no such word as "upgradation" |
| 07:51.55 | nareshov | ranjith_: let the upgrade complete, then follow !confmiss for xorg-xserver |
| 07:52.18 | nareshov | "xserver-xorg"* |
| 07:52.36 | ranjith_ | nareshov: ok thanks |
| 07:52.46 | ranjith_ | simonrvn: ok thanks |
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| 07:54.41 | grub | hi, i am using lenny. Installed tomcat5.5.. But i cannot access the web interface @ http://localhost:8180/ |
| 07:54.47 | grub | it just loads up as a blank page |
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| 08:00.21 | qwaza | Hi all, i need to disable tmpfs mounting of /tmp on Debian lenny |
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| 08:00.31 | qwaza | hos can I do it? fstab is empty |
| 08:00.48 | qwaza | proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 |
| 08:00.52 | qwaza | only one line |
| 08:01.02 | dubphil | someone can help me ? |
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| 08:13.32 | amitz | grub: there are some additional packages you must install. I forgot specifically which package. |
| 08:13.50 | grub | amitz, tomcat5.5-admin ? |
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| 08:14.03 | amitz | grub: I really forgot, sorry |
| 08:14.07 | grub | i guess thats the one, coz now i can access localhost:8180/admin/ |
| 08:14.15 | grub | But i guess i have to add the admin users, etc |
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| 08:17.18 | Llama | Hello. Wher can I download installer for debian etch ? |
| 08:17.45 | pexy | how can i install etch, when lenny is stable. i want to test upgrade. |
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| 08:20.53 | sep | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/ |
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| 08:21.30 | thasp | right now I use xrandr to change my resolution to 800x600, is there a way to make openbox start up with 800x600? |
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| 08:21.46 | thasp | my CRT is a real piece of junk and is blurry at 1024x768. I'll move into the 21st century soon |
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| 08:23.43 | nareshov | thasp: try adding the xrandr line in your .xinitrc ? |
| 08:24.07 | thasp | genius nareshov |
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| 08:26.18 | thasp | hmm. no dice, nareshov :( |
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| 08:26.34 | nareshov | lol |
| 08:26.40 | thasp | it's like it ignored the file, feh --bg-scale wallpaper.jpg didn't work either |
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| 08:27.03 | nareshov | .xsessionrc ? |
| 08:27.10 | nareshov | .xsession* |
| 08:28.15 | thasp | that file doesn't exist, I made it and still no dice. i could just put it in my startup script i guess |
| 08:28.33 | thasp | i have startx after a script that does a bunch of other stuff on startup, if i put this after startx it could work |
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| 08:30.07 | thasp | hmm, that doesn't do it either. i can't have startx in a script and have it startx at the end |
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| 08:49.12 | xoz | what's with the UUID thingy in grub? |
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| 08:50.30 | nsadmin | !uuid |
| 08:50.31 | dpkg | methinks uuid is a universally unique identifier used to label disk partitions (among other things). See currently-known partition UUIDs with "ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid". In /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/menu.lst as use "UUID=dead-beef-0420-etc" as the partition name. This helps cope with device name changes such as changing from hda to sda (libata transition) or changes in the order in which USB disks are discovered. |
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| 09:06.13 | Thasp | is there a way to get feh to not stretch wallpaper? |
| 09:06.35 | Thasp | if I use bg-scale it stretches it and ruins the aspect ratio, if I don't use bg-scale then right clicking the desktop brings up a feh menu instead of an openbox meny. |
| 09:07.00 | Thasp | I'd like to be able to bring up the openbox menu regularly, but not have an overstretched background wallpaper |
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| 09:07.57 | booiiing | Thasp, gimp your wallpaper and add a border? |
| 09:08.20 | Thasp | that seems like the ghetto way around it |
| 09:08.24 | booiiing | btw: good morning everybody |
| 09:08.36 | booiiing | but it works until you figure out another way ;) |
| 09:08.44 | Thasp | i'd rather not have wallpaper :( |
| 09:08.50 | Thasp | if it takes that much work |
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| 09:09.10 | Thasp | feh can clearly not stretch it since without --bg-scale it is not stretched |
| 09:09.19 | nareshov | has rarely looked at his wallpaper |
| 09:09.28 | nareshov | windows are open all the time ;D |
| 09:09.39 | booiiing | too, but the desk still looks better if you have one |
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| 09:10.22 | Thasp | it's more about figuring out why feh works that way than about having wallpaper at this point |
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| 09:10.50 | Thasp | I don't understand why feh would, in any mode, operate "over" openbox and not allow me to get to the openbox menu |
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| 09:11.02 | GhostlyDeath | Is there any way to tell aptitude to NOT fix my broken packages? |
| 09:11.57 | booiiing | you can disable the automatic solver |
| 09:12.25 | booiiing | or do you mean "is there any way to start an install-action without fixing broken dependencies first"? |
| 09:12.52 | GhostlyDeath | well |
| 09:13.03 | GhostlyDeath | a box appears saying either removing some packages or install some |
| 09:13.03 | Guerin | GhostlyDeath: no, if deps are broken, it's for good reasons. If you don't want to be notified about them, and just want to have shit randomly fail to work, I recommend slackware |
| 09:13.34 | GhostlyDeath | The package works perfectly fine broken |
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| 09:13.47 | Guerin | GhostlyDeath: for now. |
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| 09:13.57 | GhostlyDeath | There are cases where packages depend on something they don't even need |
| 09:14.03 | GhostlyDeath | and they work fine without them |
| 09:14.13 | booiiing | if you have broken deps and are a developer, you might want to look at equivs |
| 09:14.14 | Guerin | GhostlyDeath: if that's so, file a bug. You might be thinking of recommends, not depends. |
| 09:14.25 | booiiing | if your package is broken for another reason, you should fix it |
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| 09:14.32 | corinth | Someone please explain to me the benefits of having seperate partitions for /usr, /var, and /tmp. Seperately, please. :-) |
| 09:14.32 | GhostlyDeath | It's not a recommend, it's a depend |
| 09:14.39 | Guerin | GhostlyDeath: what branch? |
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| 09:14.48 | GhostlyDeath | It's a package on debian-multimedia |
| 09:14.55 | Guerin | GhostlyDeath: complain to christian marillat |
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| 09:14.58 | booiiing | corinth, there is a lot of stuff about that on the web |
| 09:14.59 | GhostlyDeath | the flashplayer-mozilla amd64 |
| 09:15.05 | Guerin | GhostlyDeath: and /msg dpkg nofp |
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| 09:15.19 | GhostlyDeath | It depends on lib32nss-mdns but it works perfectly fine without it |
| 09:15.23 | booiiing | main advantage of a separate /var is that your logs won't kill your / |
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| 09:15.44 | booiiing | i even have separate partitions for the /var-subdirs |
| 09:15.54 | booiiing | so my logs can't ruin my /var/run |
| 09:16.08 | petemc | with the size of disks these days, thats unlikely anyways |
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| 09:16.34 | booiiing | it can happen if someone attacks your host, causing some service to spam the logs |
| 09:16.47 | petemc | unlikely |
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| 09:16.51 | booiiing | typical DOS-scenario |
| 09:17.13 | petemc | you know how much text it takes to fill 500 gig + ? |
| 09:17.20 | Federico2 | morning |
| 09:18.07 | booiiing | if you installed stuff to fill 445 gig and leave the default setting to keep 10% free for root, then it takes 5gig |
| 09:18.18 | Guerin | petemc: more than even postfix can spit out! |
| 09:18.28 | booiiing | which is not mot if one or several services start spamming |
| 09:18.40 | petemc | booiiing: then you need more disk, buy them - they're cheap |
| 09:18.46 | booiiing | heh, true |
| 09:18.58 | Guerin | booiiing: let's just fisk that first premiss: what the FUCK will you install that takes up 445GB? |
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| 09:19.56 | booiiing | Guerin, if you can't fill them, then why would people need 500gb-disks in the first place? ;) |
| 09:20.07 | Guerin | booiiing: for logs, of course! |
| 09:20.21 | booiiing | but if you run a service that can be DOSed from the outside, you are probably serving something |
| 09:20.21 | Guerin | jeeeze, people are so unimaginative these days |
| 09:20.26 | booiiing | for example packages |
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| 09:21.32 | booiiing | but now on to a question i have :D |
| 09:21.53 | booiiing | i think of setting up ipv6 on my personal box |
| 09:22.57 | booiiing | however, my isp doesn't provide native ipv6, so i need a tunnel |
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| 09:23.36 | booiiing | i tried 6to4 now, but that's not really perfect, because i have a dynamic ip in ipv4 |
| 09:24.08 | booiiing | i also read the ipv6-page in the wiki and had a look at the two tunnel-brokers which are referenced there |
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| 09:24.31 | booiiing | so i now wanted to ask what you people recommend? |
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| 09:25.21 | petemc | sixxs |
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| 09:27.20 | jmd | Since upgrading to lenny, the screensaver of gdm no longer accepts any passwords (although the login screen does). |
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| 09:27.56 | lxsameer | what is the udebs format? deb file? |
| 09:28.44 | jmd | lxsameer, Huh? |
| 09:29.32 | lxsameer | jmd , i mean , does udeb file is in format as normal deb file is? |
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| 09:32.43 | corinth | Does Debian use synaptic by default? |
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| 09:33.55 | acemi | corinth: I think there is no default. most use apt or aptitude |
| 09:34.17 | corinth | So Debian doesn't include a graphical package manager by default? |
| 09:34.37 | simonrvn | there isn't. if you installed 'desktop', it would install it. |
| 09:34.37 | tomodachi | corinth: no it doesent |
| 09:34.44 | corinth | Thanks. |
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| 09:37.29 | lxsameer | how can i build a meta package in my debian system |
| 09:37.54 | Guerin | lxsameer: /msg dpkg nm guide |
| 09:38.27 | Guerin | lxsameer: basically, you want to build a package which doesn't necessarily install anything but depends on some other packages |
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| 09:38.46 | Guerin | so it's a matter of tweaking the control file just so |
| 09:38.51 | Laeborg | I can't login in my kubuntu, after I have tried to install libplasma and some compiz packages. I come to the KDM login screen, enter my password, and click enter, but then the screen is being black, and after ~2 sec im back to the login screen. |
| 09:39.00 | Guerin | lxsameer: complain to #ubuntu |
| 09:39.19 | Guerin | bah |
| 09:39.21 | Guerin | Laeborg: ^ |
| 09:39.42 | tomodachi | Guerin: youre comlaining in the wrong channel to the wrong ppl |
| 09:39.44 | corinth | Does Smart integrate well into Debian, or is it better to use synaptic? |
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| 09:40.00 | Guerin | tomodachi: I am? |
| 09:40.00 | lxsameer | Guerin: what did you mean ? |
| 09:40.12 | Guerin | lxsameer: the last not directed to you, sorry. |
| 09:40.22 | tomodachi | sorry :) wrong person |
| 09:40.22 | Guerin | i basically am just shit at typing |
| 09:40.23 | tomodachi | :) |
| 09:40.31 | tomodachi | meto obviouesly |
| 09:40.32 | Guerin | :) |
| 09:43.09 | fluxdude | is there a way of throttling a process resources, something akin to limits but for processes not users? |
| 09:43.55 | sep | you do have the nice levels tho man nice |
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| 09:44.49 | sep | also a package called cpulimit |
| 09:44.59 | fluxdude | sep: yeah but this doesn't prevent a process from chewing up all memory, though, right? |
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| 09:46.43 | icebrain | ls |
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| 09:47.20 | sep | fluxdude, also check out ulimit |
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| 09:49.45 | sep | fluxdude, man bash and search for ulimit |
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| 09:52.16 | fluxdude | i'm using that already but it only works per user account not per process name... |
| 09:52.45 | fluxdude | ie something runs as root, I need to throttle that one thing, but not the other root processes which would cause problems... |
| 09:54.06 | sep | read the docs of the package in cpulimit then |
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| 09:59.27 | fluxdude | sep: thanks for the note, I need memory limits more than cpu limits to be honest though... although this is interesting, funny there are Debian and Gentoo packages but not centos one... perhaps in another repo... |
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| 10:06.21 | ma3x | is there a tool to remap keys in x11 or in the console even? |
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| 10:07.32 | Cybertinus | ma3x: you need to define the remaps both in x11 and in the console |
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| 10:08.20 | ma3x | Cybertinus: how/where? |
| 10:09.47 | Cybertinus | sry, my GPRS connection failed for a second there (I'm in a train right now ;) ) |
| 10:10.11 | Cybertinus | I'm using xbindkeys on my desktop to get my multimediakeys working in x11 |
| 10:10.26 | Cybertinus | you can also use that for remaping keys |
| 10:10.37 | Cybertinus | don't know a tool which does that on the terminal |
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| 10:14.53 | g00se | If i've bound stuff like /dev elsewhere due to a chroot, what the best way to restore to status quo ante after exiting the chroot? |
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| 10:15.54 | tomodachi | g00se: rebooting? :) |
| 10:16.01 | nsadmin | g00se do the reverse of what you did |
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| 10:16.48 | g00se | tomodachi: Too radical ;-) |
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| 10:17.06 | g00se | nsadmin: Too lengthy ;-) |
| 10:17.22 | g00se | (But might do if necessary0 |
| 10:17.50 | qwaza | Hi all, is there any way to disable tmpfs mount of /tmp in Debian lenny? |
| 10:18.31 | ProstheticS | Guys, Ive tried ubuntu, ive tried fedora, im getting no love, PLEASE do not tell me 'dotn use that kind of controller' because, well ,its already set up, and has been for a while, with raid 10 and a mirror of 2 drives, which i cannot get rid of. Im using an Intel ICH9r device for the 'raid' and i know its fake raid, my question is, am i able to install debian on this or not |
| 10:19.33 | nsadmin | g00se: you're playing "you could..." "yeah but..." and I'm ending that game here... pick somethign and do it |
| 10:19.54 | Cybertinus | ProstheticS: could you install Ubuntu or Fedora on it? |
| 10:20.12 | ProstheticS | Cyber: some peopel have managed, but im getting problems |
| 10:20.30 | nsadmin | ProstheticS: read the install guide and see |
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| 10:20.45 | ProstheticS | inst guide? |
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| 10:20.58 | ProstheticS | one sec |
| 10:22.19 | g00se | nsadmin: You win the game. I do yours |
| 10:22.22 | ProstheticS | what am i lookin for? |
| 10:23.02 | nsadmin | one thing I can tell you... is if your controller is not supported by a kernel used in an installer, maybe you can't use debian... or maybe you have to build your own, use a kernel you used that worked, or come up with a different solution... |
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| 10:23.39 | ProstheticS | where am i lookin in the install guide |
| 10:23.48 | ProstheticS | for supported 'raid' controllers |
| 10:24.14 | nsadmin | maybe you have to get an empty drive, put it in your system, install debian onto that, see if you can build a kernel that works with your raid |
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| 10:25.35 | nsadmin | ProstheticS: so you said before you tried other dists, and "no love"... what did you mean by that more exactly? |
| 10:25.52 | nsadmin | that you didn't like it? |
| 10:26.21 | ProstheticS | no, i mean , the only one that could read any of the arrays |
| 10:26.27 | ProstheticS | was ubuntu, using alternate install |
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| 10:26.35 | ProstheticS | but that almost kills my first array |
| 10:26.41 | doctormo | Hello all |
| 10:26.44 | nsadmin | kills? what do you mean? |
| 10:26.53 | SamiusPrime | dpkg, lenny release notes |
| 10:26.54 | dpkg | i heard lenny release notes is at http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/releasenotes . See also http://bugs.debian.org/release-notes and http://wiki.debian.org/NewInLenny . Also ask about <i-g>, <installer firmware>, or <etch->lenny key> |
| 10:26.54 | ProstheticS | (next time i cold boot the whole thing is shows up as offline disks) |
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| 10:27.12 | SamiusPrime | dpkg, cheers buddy |
| 10:27.12 | dpkg | SamiusPrime: i don't know |
| 10:27.13 | nsadmin | so it disassembled your array? |
| 10:27.22 | ProstheticS | yea, weirdly , screws my metadata |
| 10:27.48 | ProstheticS | nearly lost 1.5 tb worth of gear on the first array, the weird part is that array isnt the one im installing to |
| 10:28.02 | nsadmin | could you restore it by hand? (err, did you do that) |
| 10:28.15 | ProstheticS | did it with a live cd |
| 10:28.33 | nsadmin | and so you didn't actually lose data |
| 10:28.35 | giso | hi there, |
| 10:28.35 | giso | does anyone know how to find out the type of memory that's in a pc (without opening it) |
| 10:28.38 | ProstheticS | no |
| 10:28.47 | nsadmin | glad to hear that |
| 10:28.55 | ProstheticS | :) so am i |
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| 10:29.13 | nsadmin | so this is to be a multiboot with multiple arrays |
| 10:29.19 | ProstheticS | yes |
| 10:29.29 | nsadmin | and are you running a linux os now? |
| 10:29.37 | ProstheticS | First array = Raid 10 ( windows) second array = Mirror |
| 10:29.41 | ProstheticS | nah ns |
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| 10:30.14 | ProstheticS | second array has room on it for the linux , but is mostly other windows parts. |
| 10:30.14 | nsadmin | you're using the second array as a mirror of the first? |
| 10:30.17 | aidan | sloccount foo just sits there and does nothing at "Found a working MD5 command." |
| 10:30.23 | ProstheticS | no , second array is a mirrored array |
| 10:30.24 | aidan | What can I do about this? |
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| 10:30.32 | ProstheticS | first array = 4 drives, raid 10 , second = 2 drives, mirrored |
| 10:30.32 | nsadmin | oh, ok |
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| 10:30.52 | ProstheticS | its an odd config, but it serves me very well |
| 10:31.00 | nsadmin | got a spare drive to connect as a non-raid drive? |
| 10:31.19 | ProstheticS | hmm |
| 10:31.20 | ProstheticS | actually |
| 10:31.24 | ProstheticS | i just thought of my own little solution |
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| 10:31.41 | nsadmin | give it a try :) |
| 10:32.05 | ProstheticS | gonna move all the data off the small mirror, then, create a windows 'craptastical' 400gb mirror across the 2 drive,s and then install linux and make a raid with the leftover space |
| 10:32.13 | ProstheticS | rekon that would work , 2 diff software raids |
| 10:32.24 | ProstheticS | or would they screw eachother over |
| 10:32.33 | nsadmin | no idea |
| 10:32.46 | nsadmin | you mean a raid on a raid? |
| 10:32.58 | ProstheticS | well i hope not, depends how the software raid works |
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| 10:33.09 | ProstheticS | if the software raid forces you to give it the whole drive |
| 10:33.11 | muffe | hi, i've got a xen vserver and i want to upgrade to lenny. atm im running etch, but i already dist-upgraded to lenny. but unfortunately i dont know how to make xen run with the new kernel, maybe someone can help me there? :o |
| 10:33.11 | ProstheticS | im screwed. |
| 10:33.40 | nsadmin | well you have a few solutions to try |
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| 10:34.23 | ProstheticS | mmmmm , as long as the softraid lets me do only the partitions not the drive |
| 10:34.39 | ProstheticS | meanwhile, my pc kicks ass :) |
| 10:35.22 | ProstheticS | moving the data now |
| 10:35.37 | nsadmin | the one I'm suggesting involves a spare empty disk connected as an independent, not-raided disk. you would initially install debian or other unix-alike on that drive, get compilers, and try to rebuild the kernel to support your hardware |
| 10:35.44 | nsadmin | once you have a kernel that does, |
| 10:35.54 | nsadmin | you can copy it onto your raid |
| 10:36.22 | nsadmin | along with the whole rest of the new os |
| 10:36.35 | SamiusPrime | hmm wieird I jus started timing out to ftp.uk.debian.org for my upgrades |
| 10:36.52 | SamiusPrime | (was 71% into an aptitude full-upgrade to lenny) |
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| 10:37.17 | Misterjos | hey, ./configure says that i need packet bmp0.9.7 to compile the wma codec, but i cant figure out what to install, anyone an idea? |
| 10:37.26 | nsadmin | was it downloading? or unpacking/configuring packages? |
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| 10:38.20 | ldp | !java |
| 10:38.20 | dpkg | well, java is a cross-platform C++-like OO language. Sun partially released its Java implementation under the GPL on 2006-11-13. There are other implementations packaged for Debian, Sun's JRE/JDK is in <non-free> (for i386, amd64 only). Ask me about <install java>. See also <java alternatives>. http://wiki.debian.org/Java |
| 10:38.25 | nsadmin | and once you have the os on the raid and booting from the raid, you can then remove the spare drive |
| 10:38.27 | ldp | !install java |
| 10:38.27 | dpkg | For the java plugin install either the icedtea-gcjwebplugin (free) plugin or the sun-java6-plugin (<non-free>). For other java programs (lenny onwards), you can install the default-jre package to get install a java runtime, or "apt-cache search java-virtual-machine" to see other implementations. The best options are probably openjdk-6-jre or sun-java-6-jre. Also ask me about <install java etch>. |
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| 10:38.46 | nsadmin | !msg the bot |
| 10:38.46 | dpkg | Please message the bot... not doing so could be considered an unnecessary flood. Instead of typing "!tell <your nick> about <topic>" you can just type "/msg dpkg <topic>". See also <selftell>. Also visit http://wiki.debian.org/IRC/DpkgBot to learn how to effectively use the factoids database, or ask me about <bot help> <help> |
| 10:39.09 | ldp | nsadmin: Sorry |
| 10:39.09 | ProstheticS | ns: thx for you help dude, i think if i didnt chat about it , i wouldnt have thought up any solution, let alone had a few :) |
| 10:39.42 | nsadmin | ProstheticS: np... good luck |
| 10:39.51 | ProstheticS | :) |
| 10:41.17 | giso | does anyone know how to find out the type of memory that's in a pc (without opening the pc) |
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| 10:42.45 | ionte | hi! oh my god, i have to get this working: i have installed debian lenny on an old tried and true ibm server. i've got samba working, except the server does not appear when browsing the workgroup! tried with ubuntu and xp. any ideas?! |
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| 10:43.05 | ionte | i'm using more or less the exact same config as on the earlier installation (debian 4.0) |
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| 10:44.13 | ionte | using "\\10.0.0.200" works.. |
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| 11:00.26 | giso | does anyone know how to find out the type of memory that's in a pc (without opening the pc) |
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| 11:00.45 | ProstheticS | giso, linux or windows? |
| 11:01.23 | giso | linux |
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| 11:02.00 | ProstheticS | ah, damn no idea for ya then |
| 11:02.14 | ProstheticS | if u were on windows i coulda gotten u brand/mhz/size without trouble |
| 11:02.54 | bolt-work | lshw? |
| 11:03.01 | ProstheticS | ? |
| 11:03.12 | bolt-work | check out lshw |
| 11:03.22 | outlaw84 | My latest dist-upgrade to unstable broke the DNS feature of firefox/iceweasel is there any fix for this? |
| 11:03.23 | giso | no, it only reports it's DIMM memory, but not DDR(1,2,3) |
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| 11:03.52 | bolt | !u |
| 11:03.52 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
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| 11:05.42 | jimpy | lgol_: isnt compiz a window manager in its won right? |
| 11:05.50 | bolt-work | giso: but it will show you the motherboard? then just look that up? |
| 11:06.03 | bolt-work | giso: think that's what the windoze tools to anyway |
| 11:06.59 | giso | ah, ok |
| 11:06.59 | giso | I'll try that |
| 11:07.05 | jimpy | whow wrong channel |
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| 11:09.05 | mrfree | hi all |
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| 11:10.00 | bolt-work | !greet mrfree |
| 11:10.01 | dpkg | Nihao, mrfree |
| 11:10.01 | mrfree | I noticed bootcd depends on genisoimage but it doesn't work because a missing mkisofs command |
| 11:10.43 | mrfree | should I manually create a symlink genisoimage -> mkisofs? |
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| 11:11.21 | bolt-work | or install mkisofs? |
| 11:11.26 | infinity0 | is there a quick command that will let me insert text into the front of a file? |
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| 11:11.36 | infinity0 | as in, lots of files |
| 11:11.40 | infinity0 | ie. license header |
| 11:11.43 | mrfree | bolt-work, genisoimage replaces mkisofs |
| 11:13.38 | bolt-work | mrfree: read "apt-cache show mkisofs" |
| 11:13.42 | bolt-work | it makes your symlink |
| 11:14.31 | mrfree | bolt-work, ah ok :) |
| 11:14.49 | Chrysalis | infinity0, not that i know of, but you can create a new file with the text and append the old text after that |
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| 11:16.26 | bolt-work | for file in * ; do |
| 11:16.29 | blindy | if i run mdadm raid5 and LVM on top, if i get a power outage while writing a file, will i loose that file or will i loose the hole array? |
| 11:16.31 | bolt-work | cat header $file > file.tmp |
| 11:16.36 | bolt-work | mv $file.tmp $file |
| 11:16.37 | bolt-work | done |
| 11:16.42 | bolt-work | or somesuch |
| 11:17.13 | bolt-work | infinity0 -^ |
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| 11:18.18 | dboehmer | hi |
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| 11:18.33 | dboehmer | i have just installed nagios from repos |
| 11:18.54 | dboehmer | several tutorials on nagios tell that i cannot instantly access the web interface |
| 11:19.10 | dboehmer | i cannot. apache is looking for an htpasswd.user which is not there |
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| 11:19.31 | dboehmer | i am unsure what to do. shouldn't the default install work out of the box? |
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| 11:19.57 | bolt-work | dboehmer: follow the howto, i'd say. not all stuff does everything out of the box |
| 11:20.42 | dboehmer | bolt-work: well the howto relies on a working web interface. there are many config files and i would like to see what any changes do |
| 11:21.19 | bolt-work | dboehmer: read up on htpasswd.user then, and make one |
| 11:21.45 | bolt-work | http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/programs/htpasswd.html |
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| 11:22.18 | bolt-work | bah. did apache.org just disappear? |
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| 11:22.46 | bolt-work | ah. got it now |
| 11:23.04 | dboehmer | although i have never written a htpasswd myself i know about it but i would like not to screw up the nagios config... well, for a start i will try get nagios running this way |
| 11:23.34 | bolt-work | the htpasswd program writes it for you :) |
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| 11:25.54 | dboehmer | bolt-work: thanks for the hint with the program |
| 11:25.59 | dboehmer | more than easy |
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| 11:26.21 | dboehmer | nagios is now working... let's see if i find a way to configure users inside nagios |
| 11:26.22 | alex23 | hi |
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| 11:27.53 | alex23 | how to copy a folder via ftp mput and put seams to work only on files |
| 11:27.58 | lxsameer | how can i create a repo? i want to put some udeb and deb file in it? |
| 11:28.07 | tomodachi | alex23: i dont think the ordinary ftp client has support for folders |
| 11:28.24 | tomodachi | alex23: install lftp it has a mirror feature wich will allow you to copy entire directories |
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| 11:28.32 | tomodachi | its also superior to ftp |
| 11:28.41 | alex23 | okay thx :) |
| 11:28.43 | tomodachi | command line completion , bookmarks queuing etc |
| 11:28.44 | tomodachi | np |
| 11:29.00 | tomodachi | have a look at the pget option |
| 11:29.05 | tomodachi | my favourite, ever |
| 11:29.30 | bolt-work | alex23: yafc and lftp do recursive puts |
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| 11:29.57 | simonrvn | lftp is nice. and does other protos too |
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| 11:30.22 | alex23 | can i use it for scp too? |
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| 11:31.05 | bolt-work | alex23: sftp, not scp |
| 11:31.06 | tomodachi | alex23: no its just an ftp client, of course any of the admin's here would recomend you |
| 11:31.11 | tomodachi | to use scp instead of ftp |
| 11:31.17 | tomodachi | since the protocoll sucks |
| 11:31.19 | tomodachi | and is insecure |
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| 11:31.32 | bolt-work | alex23: rsync over ssh is great if you have ssh access to where you're putting stuff |
| 11:32.24 | alex23 | okay thx i'll give it a try. |
| 11:32.29 | simonrvn | "lftp is a file transfer program that allows sophisticated ftp, http and other connections to other hosts." |
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| 11:33.02 | simonrvn | "lftp can handle several file access methods - ftp, ftps, http, https, hftp, fish, sftp and file (https and ftps are only available when lftp is compiled with GNU TLS or OpenSSL library)." |
| 11:33.34 | simonrvn | scp != sftp != ftps |
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| 11:38.09 | infinity0 | bolt-work: lol, ugh |
| 11:38.13 | infinity0 | but thanks |
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| 11:50.32 | Witch-King | hello, i am installing debian on another machine. i am at the screen that asks me what type of keyboard i have, and i have a USB keyboard but i don't see it listed there. what do i do? |
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| 11:51.24 | bolt-work | Witch-King: isn't is asking for keyboard layout? |
| 11:51.29 | arvind_khadri | how do i enable sounds at login"? |
| 11:51.44 | bolt-work | arvind_khadri: what do you mean? |
| 11:51.56 | Witch-King | bolt, no. it is asking for 'type' |
| 11:52.11 | arvind_khadri | bolt-work, like when you login into session there can be sounds... as it is in ubutnu |
| 11:52.21 | arvind_khadri | bolt-work, *ubuntu |
| 11:52.33 | Witch-King | the two options are 'PC-Style (AT or PS-2 Connector) keyboard' or 'Do not configure keyboard; keep kernel map' |
| 11:52.50 | bolt-work | arvind_khadri: set a startup sound in whatever desktop environment you're using? or just stuff something nice in your .xsession? |
| 11:53.15 | bolt-work | Witch-King: go with "do not configure" then |
| 11:53.23 | arvind_khadri | bolt-work, a startup sound |
| 11:53.24 | bolt-work | Witch-King: it works as it is, right? |
| 11:53.31 | bolt-work | arvind_khadri: that's what i'm saying |
| 11:53.48 | Witch-King | bolt, yeah true :) |
| 11:54.06 | arvind_khadri | bolt-work, i installed gnome-audio where do i get the files now ?? :) |
| 11:54.10 | Witch-King | bolt-work, okay what do i do for PCMCIA if i have no PCMCIA cards, but i do have PCI cards/ |
| 11:54.10 | bolt-work | Witch-King: you can always configure it later if you find some keys not working as expected or somesuch |
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| 11:54.48 | bolt-work | arvind_khadri: use dpkg -l gnome-audio to see a list of files contained in that package. to set a startup sound for gnome, you should probably check its control panel, or ask #gnome |
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| 11:54.57 | xoz | !ping |
| 11:54.57 | dpkg | pong |
| 11:55.28 | Witch-King | crap >:[ |
| 11:55.36 | bolt-work | ? |
| 11:56.01 | Witch-King | bolt-work, the burn of my disk failed, and now i have to reburn it even though i am already in the installer :C |
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| 11:56.08 | Witch-King | reburns... |
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| 11:56.36 | bolt-work | make sure you have the correct image while you're at it. that installer option you mentioned sounded weird |
| 11:57.05 | Witch-King | bolt-work, i am using debian 5.0 amd64 xfce-lxde for an intel c2d |
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| 11:57.50 | Ethosser | anyone know of a good guide to get debian (im using ubuntu server) connected to mssql? |
| 11:57.52 | bolt-work | hm.. strange |
| 11:57.57 | Ethosser | all the guides i'm come across simply don't work |
| 11:58.25 | Witch-King | oh, haha bolt-work i had the wrong cd in :F |
| 11:58.36 | tralala | !ig Ethosser |
| 11:58.41 | tralala | !ig |
| 11:58.41 | dpkg | The Debian Installation Guide for Lenny (5.0) can be found at http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/installmanual and for Etch (4.0r7) at http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/installmanual. <installer firmware> |
| 11:58.42 | bolt-work | !lart Witch-King |
| 11:58.42 | dpkg | installs a bad bootloader on Witch-King and turns Witch-King into a brick |
| 11:58.52 | Witch-King | don't brick me :C |
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| 11:59.20 | Witch-King | throws fentanyl at bolt-work |
| 11:59.21 | bolt-work | throws Witch-King through a window. muahaha! |
| 11:59.32 | Witch-King | don't defenestrate me! |
| 11:59.54 | Ethosser | !ig |
| 11:59.54 | dpkg | The Debian Installation Guide for Lenny (5.0) can be found at http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/installmanual and for Etch (4.0r7) at http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/installmanual. <installer firmware> |
| 12:00.00 | Ethosser | what |
| 12:00.02 | bolt-work | ... |
| 12:00.07 | Witch-King | bolt-work, do you know if i can get debian to read my RAID0 or not? it uses the intel ICH9 driver in windows.. |
| 12:00.22 | bolt-work | Witch-King: fakeraid? |
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| 12:00.56 | Witch-King | what is that? |
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| 12:02.07 | bolt-work | !dmraid |
| 12:02.07 | dpkg | A term used for controller cards that advertise RAID functionality that is NOT supported by a hardware chip for parity. Most of these have only a BIOS ... if you use them with Debian it's suggested that you don't set a RAID in the BIOS and don't use dmraid, just use regular software RAID (ask me about <md>). see <sata faq> |
| 12:02.08 | tralala | Witch-King, probably not |
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| 12:02.43 | bolt-work | try with dmraid. if that doesn't work, don't use the fakeraid :) |
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| 12:03.30 | bolt-work | Witch-King: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/SataRaid |
| 12:04.20 | Witch-King | bolt-work, i think the burn really did fail. i am getting an error that says 'Failed to copy file from CD-ROM' |
| 12:04.22 | Witch-King | :( |
| 12:04.44 | bolt-work | Witch-King: got a usb stick? can boot from usb? much cheaper :) |
| 12:05.07 | Witch-King | i have oodles of flash drives |
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| 12:05.34 | Witch-King | how can i get the debian installer on a flash drive without formatting it? :s |
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| 12:06.06 | bolt-work | you have to format it, i think |
| 12:06.10 | bolt-work | http://numpanglewat.wordpress.com/2009/01/23/installing-debian-lenny-from-a-usb-memory-stick-usb-hdd/ |
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| 12:06.41 | zxxd | Hi |
| 12:06.42 | Witch-King | ehh i am not on a linux system already. i am on a windows system |
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| 12:07.40 | bolt-work | Witch-King: check out unetbootin, perhaps |
| 12:07.45 | bolt-work | Witch-King: i think that runs on windows |
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| 12:08.02 | Witch-King | bolt-work, i was just thinking that. i am going to see if it will work. :} |
| 12:08.06 | bolt-work | Witch-King: or just spend .25 on a new cd :) |
| 12:08.13 | zxxd | does anyone have an Idea of how to logrotate a folder with hundred of IPS in it and under each IP folder the same stack of log files |
| 12:08.23 | bolt-work | Witch-King: or a cd-rw :D |
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| 12:08.46 | Witch-King | bolt, they cost much less than 25 cents. i got a stack of 100 for 12 dollars :) |
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| 12:09.02 | bolt-work | Witch-King: burn, baby, burn |
| 12:10.14 | Witch-King | bolt-work, i am gonna try using unetbootin to write the debian iso to a flash drive. let's hope it works out. |
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| 12:10.48 | bolt-work | Witch-King: having a debian-installer around on a usb drive is always neat |
| 12:12.50 | Witch-King | 1000/3050 files copied :0 |
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| 12:13.26 | Witch-King | bolt-work, i should be able to install to an IDE drive that is connected with an IDE to USB bridge right? |
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| 12:14.23 | bolt-work | Witch-King: "should be" might be a little optimistic |
| 12:14.28 | bolt-work | Witch-King: might work though |
| 12:15.11 | Witch-King | okay :x i can always connect the drive to my mobo i suppose |
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| 12:20.23 | RSD | Hi lads |
| 12:20.25 | RSD | anyone awake? |
| 12:20.34 | beardy | Only the ladies. |
| 12:20.43 | nareshov | lol |
| 12:20.57 | bolt-work | and that from a user named "beardy" |
| 12:21.01 | bolt-work | ... |
| 12:21.04 | datacrusher | ahueahue |
| 12:21.12 | beardy | I sometimes talk in my sleep. |
| 12:21.17 | datacrusher | the beared lady isnt quite the best to meet on the mondays |
| 12:22.11 | diilbert | I have a strange problem. My apache error log got flooded by errors from a poorly thought out script. I thought of gzipped the log to the /tmp folder to look at later, but 5-10 minutes in I changed my mid Ctrl+C'd the task and just deleted the file. But when I did a df -h the /var dir was still full. If I do a du -h --summarize it shows that I should have 20G of free space (the log file). |
| 12:22.41 | diilbert | After tinking I realized the gzip process was still running, so I killed it... but the space has still not been freed... any ideas? |
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| 12:23.04 | bolt-work | diilbert: the apache process probably still has an open handle to the file |
| 12:23.11 | bolt-work | diilbert: look for it in lsof |
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| 12:23.30 | diilbert | bolt-work: the log was rotated out at 6:30 this morning |
| 12:23.32 | metaltux | hello. what is the default access for nagios on debian? |
| 12:23.51 | metaltux | (what url)? |
| 12:23.58 | bolt-work | diilbert: try lsof | grep filename anyway |
| 12:23.58 | diilbert | brb |
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| 12:26.00 | aidan | where do I find this docbook.rng file? apt-cache turns up a blank |
| 12:26.09 | aidan | http://www.docbook.org/tdg5/en/html/ch03.html |
| 12:26.17 | enouf | aidan: apt-file |
| 12:26.32 | Witch-King | bolt-work, any idea how i can easily build packages from source? i don't wanna use apt-build :F |
| 12:26.34 | metaltux | did anyone use nagios on debian here? |
| 12:26.35 | bolt-work | aidan: apt-get install apt-file && apt-file update && apt-file search docbook.rng |
| 12:26.44 | bolt-work | !tell metaltux about polls |
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| 12:27.24 | enouf | ask dpkg about <package basics> |
| 12:27.55 | aidan | bolt-work: an't get http://security.debian.org/dists/stable/updates/Contents-amd64.gz |
| 12:28.14 | enouf | !security |
| 12:28.14 | dpkg | Put "deb http://security.debian.org lenny/updates main contrib non-free" in your /etc/apt/sources.list file to keep up-to-date on security updates in stable. Run "aptitude update" and "aptitude upgrade" (or "aptitude dist-upgrade" if the updates are kept back). Also ask me about <oldstable security><testing security><unstable security>. |
| 12:28.15 | bolt-work | aidan: doesn't matter |
| 12:28.43 | aidan | docvert, interesting |
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| 12:29.46 | _markb1_ | metaltux: I build & config from source.... |
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| 12:30.02 | metaltux | ok bolt-work you know as well as I do, that my intention is not making a poll |
| 12:30.20 | metaltux | _markb1_: apt-get install nagios-text |
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| 12:30.49 | _markb1_ | metaltux: sure, but I am not afraid of C-code or building .... |
| 12:30.50 | bolt-work | metaltux: and you know as well as I do that your intention is to ask a follow-up question to whoever says they use package X. thus, what that factoid is telling you is to ask your question, instead of asking who's using X |
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| 12:31.11 | Cybertinus | hello. Debian Lenny loads the pcspkr kernelmodule automatically during boot. How can I disable that? I don't find adding the line 'modprobe -r pcspkr' to /etc/rc.local a very need solution ;) |
| 12:31.27 | Cybertinus | neat* |
| 12:31.29 | bolt-work | !tell Cybertinus about blacklist |
| 12:31.39 | metaltux | ok bolt-work... if it is better to repeat it once again... sure |
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| 12:32.04 | metaltux | _markb1_: if it is in the packager, it should work! |
| 12:32.18 | Cybertinus | thnx bolt-work, gonna try |
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| 12:32.54 | blizzkid | lo all. after upgrade from etch to lenny my squirrelmail now throws "error: connection dropped by imap server" at me, and frankly I have no idea where to start troubleshooting, as the imap server is running |
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| 12:33.03 | _markb1_ | metaltux: fyi, http://delicious.com/popular/nagios |
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| 12:33.50 | nocture | anyone got experience with debian on a ASUS Eee 900 ? |
| 12:33.52 | mbuf | does anyone know which package provides getopt_long() in Debian? |
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| 12:34.20 | bolt-work | i think there's a #debian-eee or something |
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| 12:35.27 | nocture | nothing in there it seems ;< |
| 12:35.28 | enouf | mbuf: well, install manpages-dev |
| 12:35.38 | mbuf | enouf, ok |
| 12:35.51 | metaltux | _markb1_: What's that link for? |
| 12:35.59 | enouf | GETOPT(3) Linux Programmer's Manual GETOPT(3) |
| 12:36.00 | mbuf | enouf, i am upgrading libc6-dev; let me check |
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| 12:36.31 | mhymn | nocture: on irc.oftc.net |
| 12:36.48 | nocture | cheers |
| 12:36.59 | mhymn | #debian-eeepc |
| 12:37.04 | bolt-work | ah. that's it |
| 12:37.06 | bolt-work | makes a note |
| 12:37.07 | nocture | <3 |
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| 12:37.19 | ligors | ciao |
| 12:37.22 | ligors | !list |
| 12:37.23 | dpkg | one warez list being sent to ligors |
| 12:37.31 | xjunior | hi all. How do I configure my keyboard to accept the ? key? I mean, it's not working, and some other keys either (like the /, depending from which key I use) |
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| 12:37.49 | Cybertinus | bolt-work: I've added the line to blacklist.local and I rebooted. When I check with lsmod, the pcspkr module isn't loaded anymore. But still when I press tab to complete a filename for example, and there are multiple possibilities, the computer bleeps :S. Don't know if it is important, but I've got Debian running as a virtual machine in VMWare Workstation 6.5 |
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| 12:39.07 | bolt-work | Cybertinus: try xset b off |
| 12:39.12 | enouf | !bell |
| 12:39.12 | dpkg | "xset b off" in X, or "setterm -blength 0" in console . For some reason, bash beeps excessively when in emacs (default) mode. "set -o vi" puts it in vi editing mode, which doesn't beep on partial completions. See also <shell beep>. or "set bell-style none" in ~/.inputrc, or in konsole, Settings->Bell->Visible Bell, or for .26 and newer modprobe -r snd-pcsp, then <blacklist> the snd-pcsp module |
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| 12:40.03 | enouf | it's the stupid snd-pcsp module, not pcspkr |
| 12:40.15 | Witch-King | bolt-work, the unetbootin-made flash drive didn't boot ;..; wonder hy |
| 12:40.17 | Witch-King | why* |
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| 12:40.29 | arvind_khadri | i cant setup the startup sounds.... |
| 12:40.33 | bolt-work | Witch-King: can you boot from usb in the first place? |
| 12:40.47 | diilbert1 | bolt-work: it was not there. |
| 12:41.46 | Witch-King | bolt-work, yeah. easily |
| 12:41.54 | diilbert | bolt-work: so I rebooted the server |
| 12:41.56 | diilbert | ;) |
| 12:42.06 | Cybertinus | enouf: indeed, it is the snd-pcsp module. Blacklisting it now also. Don't need sound on that machine. It is a server, for crying out loud. |
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| 12:43.15 | bolt-work | being able to make a horrible beep when something is horribly wrong isn't all that bad, though |
| 12:43.21 | bolt-work | Witch-King: burn another cd then :) |
| 12:43.30 | Witch-King | i am bolt-work. lol. |
| 12:43.39 | enouf | BEEPing sucks ass - period |
| 12:43.41 | bolt-work | then i'll be Witch-King |
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| 12:44.09 | Cybertinus | bolt-work: true. But I'm at the computer which runs VMWare Workstation now, with an headphone. Every beep makes me deaf ;), don't want that |
| 12:44.11 | _psiko | I have been using 'apt' on this system (Etch), someone introduced me to 'aptitude' & I liked it. Is there a downside of using Aptitude now after using apt (such as dependency resolving etc.)? |
| 12:44.27 | Witch-King | bolt-work, for some reason my cd-burner is always sluggish though -.- it never burns quickly |
| 12:44.30 | Cybertinus | sweet, it shuts up now :) |
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| 12:45.31 | enouf | ask dpkgbot about <why aptitude> and <why apt-get> and <reference> |
| 12:45.48 | _psiko | okay, thank you! |
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| 12:46.07 | enouf | and consider upgrading to Stable/Lenny |
| 12:46.15 | enouf | etch is now oldstable |
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| 12:46.40 | enouf | see /topic for the howtos |
| 12:46.58 | _psiko | Yes, I am planning to upgrade as soon as I finish downloading 5 DVDs |
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| 12:47.13 | enouf | you don't need anything ... |
| 12:47.39 | Witch-King | lmao |
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| 12:47.52 | enouf | just follow the steps in the <factoids> referenced in /topic |
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| 12:48.21 | Witch-King | anyone have any opinions on lxde vs xfce? |
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| 12:49.32 | bolt-work | Witch-King: if you really want a poll answer, i'm using xfce on one of my boxes now.. for running windows apps, actually. and i quite like it |
| 12:49.54 | bolt-work | Witch-King: running windows applications with seamless rdp to a virtual windows xp machine :D |
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| 12:50.18 | Witch-King | i have debian4.0r6+xfce on a pentium 3 600mhz actually. but i never really use the desktop system, only ssh to it |
| 12:50.24 | Witch-King | so i have no real experience with either |
| 12:50.54 | bolt-work | #xfce is a nice place |
| 12:50.58 | infinity0 | what's the command that prints something like "i686-unknown-linux-gnu" ? |
| 12:51.08 | bolt-work | uname? |
| 12:51.09 | Witch-King | uname |
| 12:51.10 | xjunior | hi all. How do I configure my keyboard to accept the ? key? I mean, it's not working, and some other keys either, like the /, depending from which key I use and Ç |
| 12:51.21 | plsd | infinity0, uname -a ? |
| 12:51.36 | infinity0 | no, that does it all formatted |
| 12:51.47 | bolt-work | ? |
| 12:52.15 | arvind_khadri | xjunior, System- |
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| 12:52.36 | arvind_khadri | xjunior, System-> Preferences->keyboard check out the layout |
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| 12:52.56 | xjunior | arvind_khadri, it's correct there |
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| 12:53.51 | arvind_khadri | xjunior, run xev and check whether your keys are being caught or not? |
| 12:53.57 | bolt-work | is it gnome-assumed day? |
| 12:54.17 | adb | infinity0: gcc --v ? |
| 12:54.35 | enouf | infinity0: ~$ echo $MACHTYPE |
| 12:54.35 | enouf | i486-pc-linux-gnu |
| 12:54.43 | infinity0 | ahh, seems about right |
| 12:54.55 | infinity0 | ahh, thanks |
| 12:55.17 | enouf | infinity0: dpkg --print-architecture is useful though |
| 12:55.49 | infinity0 | yah, need it not just for deb systems though :p, but thanks, that's useful info |
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| 12:56.21 | enouf | infinity0: then also see lsb-release and such (/msg dpkg version) |
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| 12:56.52 | xjunior | arvind_khadri, they are being catch |
| 12:57.12 | Saintk | Hi, i have Debian Lenny installed, and when i look in the apt-cahce it reports i have version 5.10 installed, but when i do a perl --version it tells me 'This is perl, v5.8.9 built for x86_64-linux' , any idea why it does this, its giving me problems executing scripts because their being instructed to look at incorrect directories for perl modules? |
| 12:57.26 | arvind_khadri | xjunior, look into xorg.conf for the layout thing.. and also google |
| 12:57.48 | xjunior | arvind_khadri, ok, I'll take a look |
| 12:57.50 | xjunior | thank you! |
| 12:57.51 | stew | Saintk: what does "which perl" return? |
| 12:57.52 | infinity0 | enouf: aha, thanks |
| 12:58.10 | Saintk | stew: /usr/local/bin/perl |
| 12:58.37 | stew | Saintk: so someone installed another copy of perl by hand into /usr/local |
| 12:58.57 | enouf | np |
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| 12:59.25 | xjunior | arvind_khadri, how do I know what encoding I'm using |
| 12:59.34 | Saintk | stew: ok, thats quite odd, can't recall me installing perl by hand. Any idea's how i can solve this ? |
| 12:59.44 | stew | Saintk: uninstall it |
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| 12:59.50 | arvind_khadri | xjunior, aah no idea... :| |
| 12:59.59 | xjunior | arvind_khadri, that's ok, thank you |
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| 13:00.14 | Saintk | stew: I only know how to unstall stuff which got installed trough aptitude. Is there some easy way to uninstall it ? |
| 13:00.17 | arvind_khadri | xjunior, mostly its UTF-8 |
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| 13:01.27 | stew | Saintk: I don't know. I'd recommend reading the README and/or INSTALL that came with it. perhaps you can run "make uninstall" from the directory it was installed from |
| 13:01.30 | xjunior | arvind_khadri, is it the debian default |
| 13:01.53 | Saintk | stew: ok thanks |
| 13:02.22 | arvind_khadri | xjunior, i guess so... am not sure... |
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| 13:13.32 | bolt-work | sasalu: ask #ubuntu |
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| 13:15.58 | scuser | hi all, I have two network interfaces, but when I restart the network, only eth0 is up and not both, how could I fix this ? |
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| 13:16.22 | bolt-work | scuser: /etc/network/interfaces |
| 13:16.48 | scuser | bolt-work: what should I add there ? |
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| 13:17.10 | bolt-work | scuser: add the same stuff that's there for the interface that does what you want |
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| 13:20.18 | scuser | bolt-work: ok thanks it worked :)\ |
| 13:20.20 | scuser | bolt-work: ok thanks it worked :) |
| 13:21.03 | Witch-King | bolt-work, formatting an 80GB disk over a USB->IDE bridge takes ages D: |
| 13:21.49 | scolari | I have a problem with the upgrade from etch to lenny, I think it can be a bug |
| 13:21.59 | bolt-work | Witch-King: get a darn usb stick :P |
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| 13:22.12 | bolt-work | scolari: let me get my crystal ball.... |
| 13:22.44 | scolari | it's about useradd tool and interaction with ldap:\ |
| 13:22.49 | scolari | it is really slow |
| 13:22.50 | scolari | now |
| 13:23.02 | scolari | we have about 1000 users |
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| 13:23.38 | Witch-King | bolt-work, is installing debian to a USB stick the same as installing to any other disk? |
| 13:24.19 | scolari | ubuntu have a patch: 498_make_useradd_faster_with_ldap why debian not? |
| 13:24.31 | scolari | package shadow |
| 13:25.01 | stew | scolari: file a wishlist bug |
| 13:25.35 | nsadmin | scolari: why not try applying that patch and rebuilding |
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| 13:25.55 | scolari | Yes, i can try.. it's a production server.. |
| 13:25.56 | nsadmin | but... that will change things, and you need to be prepared for whatever will change |
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| 13:26.54 | scolari | I fear there is a reason that patch isn't in |
| 13:27.28 | nsadmin | much MUCH more likely you'll miss something (I guess that because a lot depends on the format of the passwd/shadow files) and it will severely break the unix authentication |
| 13:27.39 | Ksilebo | Anyone have experience with high load on an NFS transfer? |
| 13:27.54 | Ksilebo | With debian being the NFS share |
| 13:28.07 | bolt-work | Ksilebo: instead, try and describe what goes wrong |
| 13:28.16 | nsadmin | a similar situation exists with mail clients that expect mail to be in a specific place and then someone decides to move that place |
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| 13:29.04 | Ksilebo | Alright, so I'm trying to transfer 1-3 GB files from a Mac OS machine to the debian server over NFS. |
| 13:29.08 | nsadmin | scolari: one way to be prepared is to have some sort of other way in |
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| 13:29.29 | Ksilebo | Everything's gigabit end to end, but on the debian host, load shoots up to 5-11. |
| 13:29.30 | scolari | yes, that's not a problem |
| 13:29.39 | scolari | i will loose much time |
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| 13:30.19 | bolt-work | nfs+gigabit = 20 year delta time? :) |
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| 13:30.28 | jelly | bolt-work: huh? |
| 13:30.29 | nsadmin | and then, even if it breaks horribly and even if you don't do any other prep, at least you will have that way in and be able to continue the effort of finding everything that depends on whatever that patch will change and rebuilding them |
| 13:31.04 | bolt-work | jelly: trying to figure out how old nfs is to commonly available gigabit network cards |
| 13:31.13 | scolari | sorry, if i find that patch works, who i have to tell?\ |
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| 13:31.33 | nsadmin | the maintainer of the package? |
| 13:31.37 | Ksilebo | bolt-work: Even so, NFS on Netapps are used in lieu of fibre channel or iSCSI, so its quite a robust protocol. |
| 13:31.41 | scolari | ok |
| 13:31.41 | jelly | bolt-work: mind that it's likely NFSv3 |
| 13:31.50 | bolt-work | jelly: true |
| 13:31.58 | nsadmin | scolari: doesn't this depend on an ldap server running somewhere? |
| 13:32.08 | Ksilebo | I believe I have it on 3/UDP |
| 13:32.22 | Ksilebo | I ran into compatibility issues with Mac/NFSv4 |
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| 13:32.28 | abrotman | scolari: you file a wishlist bug on the package and include the patch |
| 13:32.37 | jelly | Ksilebo: is that debian a physical machine or a virtual? |
| 13:32.52 | Ksilebo | jelly: Physical. |
| 13:32.58 | scolari | nsadmin: no, ldap server is locale |
| 13:33.21 | scolari | and all ldap commands works well |
| 13:33.24 | jelly | Ksilebo: pastebin some ~20 lines of "vmstat 1" while this is happening |
| 13:33.26 | scolari | the problem is useradd |
| 13:33.27 | nsadmin | you can even offer up your comments, results and experiences in the bug report |
| 13:33.42 | nsadmin | what's wrong with it? |
| 13:33.52 | scolari | it's ssllllloooooooooow |
| 13:33.55 | mramish | Hi all iam new to debian and ive a few questions about the flash plugin |
| 13:34.03 | nsadmin | how many users do you have? |
| 13:34.03 | scolari | 2 minutes to add a user |
| 13:34.04 | mramish | *have |
| 13:34.22 | scolari | it search throught the whole database 15 times |
| 13:34.28 | scolari | for nothing |
| 13:34.50 | nsadmin | determine the purpose of each pass |
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| 13:34.58 | Ksilebo | jelly: Lemme see if I can do that remotely. |
| 13:35.09 | bolt-work | sorry for this 2000-line thing, but can anyone tell me what goes wrong at the end here? http://pastebin.com/f39ccadca <-- trying to build openssh-client and I get "gpg: skipped "Colin Watson <cjwatson@debian.org>": secret key not available" and problems ensue (line 2269) |
| 13:35.11 | scolari | nsadmin, about 1050 |
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| 13:35.24 | mramish | Ive installed the 64 bit flash 10 plugin in iceweasel, everything is working correctly it plays streams in youtube quite well but after 3 minutes it keeps crashing |
| 13:35.35 | nsadmin | scolari: do you know about newusers |
| 13:35.58 | scolari | no, what's this? |
| 13:36.09 | nsadmin | man newusers and check it out |
| 13:36.12 | nsadmin | might be faster |
| 13:36.18 | g00se_ | grub-reboot seems to be completely ignoring its kernel number parameter!? Ideas? |
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| 13:36.22 | nsadmin | how many users do you add at a time? |
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| 13:37.53 | scolari | it depend, not many.. It's only that there are times when i have many at once |
| 13:38.11 | scolari | I have customized scripts that use useradd.. |
| 13:38.13 | nsadmin | scolari: are these automatically generated? |
| 13:38.18 | scolari | no |
| 13:38.22 | jelly | scolari: have you ltraced or straced that useradd command to see where it's hanging? |
| 13:38.43 | nsadmin | so they add the user and set the passwd? |
| 13:38.45 | scolari | yes.. searching on ldap.. it consumes 99% xeon cpu |
| 13:38.53 | bolt-work | anyone? looks to me like I need cjwatson's secret key to build openssh-client?! |
| 13:38.54 | scolari | for 2 minutes |
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| 13:39.01 | abrotman | scolari: how many entries are in the ldap db ? |
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| 13:39.05 | nsadmin | oh, so your users are ldap users? |
| 13:39.15 | abrotman | nsadmin: are you even paying attention? |
| 13:39.15 | scolari | ~1000, yes |
| 13:39.32 | scolari | unix users |
| 13:39.38 | scolari | with ldap authenticatiojn |
| 13:39.43 | nsadmin | abrotman: I putting it together slowly :P |
| 13:39.43 | mramish | any ideas? or alternatives to Flash 10? |
| 13:39.46 | abrotman | scolari: i'm not sure what your search terms are, but that seems really long .. i can search >5000 in a few seconds |
| 13:39.59 | abrotman | mramish: alternatives are gnash and swfdec |
| 13:40.07 | scolari | me too, but useradd not.. it searches multiple times |
| 13:40.09 | abrotman | if they work fro you |
| 13:40.25 | nsadmin | abrotman: he's saying useradd searches the db 15 times |
| 13:40.32 | abrotman | scolari: strace it out or log the ldap queries .. it might be querying a millino things .. or ask #ldap |
| 13:40.42 | mramish | Tried swfdec but it isnt working in 4 of 5 videos |
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| 13:40.49 | scolari | it searches for the first valid uidNumber |
| 13:40.59 | scolari | old version was fast |
| 13:41.03 | osfd | Hi Guys, what would you think of the following sources.list ? http://pastebin.ca/1350935 |
| 13:41.21 | scolari | s/valid/free/g |
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| 13:41.27 | nsadmin | osfd: too much green, not enough purple |
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| 13:42.17 | osfd | nsadmin: I feel great now..! thank you...I told my girlfriends a million times...it should be purple..! |
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| 13:43.25 | Ksilebo | jelly: http://pastebin.com/d5aa0fef2 |
| 13:43.33 | nsadmin | osfd: it defines a mixture, and your milage will vary widely with a mixture... might work pretty good now (testing and stable are pretty close) but testing is free to do whatever, including replace completely the binary executable compatibility |
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| 13:44.41 | jelly | Ksilebo: that's a mostly idle system, except for lines 4-10 |
| 13:44.52 | nsadmin | osfd: in a nutshell, you should make a decision... lenny or squeez? |
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| 13:45.11 | Ksilebo | jelly: While I was transferring, top was reporting load at 3-4 |
| 13:45.18 | osfd | nsadmin: ok...so, if I wanna keep a testing...(I don't really know if I can go backward, though) I can just keep my sources.list "all-for-squeeze" |
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| 13:45.44 | Ksilebo | With multiple nfsd processes at the top |
| 13:45.47 | nsadmin | going backward is not necessarily easy, and definitely not supported... |
| 13:45.57 | cantido | I'm have issues with a slave slapd (openldap) trying to sync with the master and hammering it to the point that it falls over. The only thing I can see in the slaves logs is this "Content Sync Refresh Required". Theres no reference anywhere to what that actually means. :/ |
| 13:45.59 | jelly | Ksilebo: how long did it take? how many files? |
| 13:46.00 | nsadmin | if you want to go back, back your storage up |
| 13:46.32 | nsadmin | and probably you want to back up your /home separately from everything else |
| 13:46.39 | Ksilebo | jelly: One file, 1.1 GB about 5 minutes |
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| 13:47.16 | jelly | Ksilebo: anything interesting in /var/log/kern.log? |
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| 13:47.36 | osfd | nsadmin: my actual sources.list is http://pastebin.ca/1350939 |
| 13:47.57 | Ksilebo | jelly: Negative. |
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| 13:48.12 | budgester1 | hi, I'm trying to upgrade an old installation of debian, it still has a 2.4 kernel on it and apt keeps erroring out with this message http://pastebin.com/d48d6365a |
| 13:48.34 | Ksilebo | Actually...hmmm |
| 13:48.48 | nsadmin | ok, so you have made a decision |
| 13:49.03 | nsadmin | have you actually upgraded to squeeze? |
| 13:49.40 | nsadmin | budgester1: how old? |
| 13:50.09 | Ksilebo | jelly: http://pastebin.com/d29c7fae6 |
| 13:50.13 | budgester1 | 2.4.27-3-686 kernel From Dec 5 2006 |
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| 13:50.17 | Ksilebo | This a problem with my e1000 driver? |
| 13:50.19 | brainsoft | im on sid |
| 13:50.22 | brainsoft | Package mozilla-firefox-xpcom was not found in the pkg-config search path. |
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| 13:50.24 | brainsoft | Perhaps you should add the directory containing `mozilla-firefox-xpcom.pc' |
| 13:50.32 | xjunior | hi, my debian is recognizing a UDF DVD as an empty DVD, how to fix it |
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| 13:51.14 | scolari | found something: the behavior of adduser is good, useradd not |
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| 13:52.00 | jelly | Ksilebo: well, it sure looks like it's having issues. |
| 13:52.05 | nsadmin | budgester1 what is the /etc/debian_version? |
| 13:52.10 | spectre_ | hi, don't you know such a good editor as PSpad on windows? |
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| 13:52.28 | scolari | the queries to the db are different: the first search for uidNumber=1000, 1001, 1002 and so on; the latter dump the whole database many times |
| 13:52.34 | spectre_ | I mean editor for many types of source |
| 13:52.38 | jackweb | Hello! Could you tell me what I can turn off to make the boot faster when I give you bootchart.png? |
| 13:52.42 | budgester1 | 4.0 |
| 13:52.47 | nsadmin | spectre_: there are too many to mention |
| 13:52.50 | scolari | I thought adduser was only a frontend |
| 13:53.09 | budgester1 | grub only sees the 2.4 kernels |
| 13:53.30 | nsadmin | budgester1: suggest you upgrade the kernel, dpkg and apt first |
| 13:53.35 | jackweb | http://jackweb.ovh.org/bootchart.png |
| 13:53.37 | Ksilebo | jelly: Heh. yes. I think I think that's the onboard Intel NIC. I can disable that one and make the PCI-X one in there be eth0 |
| 13:53.55 | osfd | And I have had a strange error for 2 days now..: http://pastebin.ca/1350942 |
| 13:54.00 | nsadmin | but that info is in the release notes for lenny |
| 13:54.01 | jelly | Ksilebo: note that the hang and stack traces are old, from yesterdat |
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| 13:54.05 | osfd | nsadmin: And I have had a strange error for 2 days now..: http://pastebin.ca/1350942 |
| 13:54.19 | Ksilebo | jelly: Yes, at about 2200 I was trying to do a transfer |
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| 13:54.28 | asulao | !sources.list |
| 13:54.28 | dpkg | The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian lenny main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <apt-setup> <lenny security> <testing security> "man sources.list" and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
| 13:54.29 | Ksilebo | So it is a relavent one. |
| 13:54.30 | jelly | Ksilebo: uname -r? |
| 13:54.45 | nsadmin | usually when you've had an error for that long, you have to drink lots of water and hope to flush it down soon! |
| 13:54.49 | Ksilebo | 2.6.26-1-686 |
| 13:55.00 | jelly | eh, that's the current distro one |
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| 13:55.04 | Ksilebo | Yep. |
| 13:55.09 | Ksilebo | I did a netinstall about last week |
| 13:55.26 | nasso_ | jackweb, how did you generate that png? |
| 13:55.51 | jackweb | nasso_: using a package bootchart |
| 13:56.20 | nasso_ | jackweb, okay. just apt-get it and then run it and it restarts the machine? |
| 13:56.24 | osfd | nsadmin: meaning..my system might break up sometimes soon ? |
| 13:56.39 | Ksilebo | Week or 2 now that think about it. I remember being very irritated. |
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| 13:56.49 | jelly | Ksilebo: well, e1000 driver has a number of tunables (modinfo e1000). And you can always try a newer kernel. |
| 13:57.00 | jackweb | nasso_: no, you have to add to menu.lst 'init=/sbin/bootchartd' in line kernel. |
| 13:57.02 | nsadmin | osfd: no, just ignore that... but you do need to upgrade some things |
| 13:57.05 | budgester1 | Just tried media:~# apt-get install linux-image-2.6.28-1-686 , and I got http://pastebin.com/d1dbe18cf |
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| 13:57.18 | nsadmin | the first thing is your kernel... |
| 13:57.19 | jelly | Ksilebo: I'd google that "e1000: eth0: e1000_clean_tx_irq: Detected Tx Unit Hang" message, see what crops up |
| 13:57.30 | Ksilebo | jelly: Doing |
| 13:57.38 | asulao | !sources.list >asulao |
| 13:57.56 | asulao | dpkg: tell asulao about sources.list |
| 13:58.00 | nsadmin | asulao: /msg dpkg sources.list |
| 13:58.21 | osfd | nsadmin: so I just do the usual aptitude update && aptitude upgrade and the problem might be fixed sometimes..!? |
| 13:58.22 | cixx | are there any problems with samba+follow symlinks on debian 5? just installed it and put follow symlinks = yes into smb.conf - restarted it via /etc/init.d/samba restart - but still not following my symlink: lrwxrwxrwx 1 cixx cixx 11 2009-03-02 14:46 space -> /mnt/space/ - any suggestions? |
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| 13:59.25 | nsadmin | osfd: could you first check the release notes for lenny? most of your questions are answered there |
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| 13:59.52 | Ksilebo | jelly: Hm, one says to update e1000. Probably shouldn't do that till I'm back home. |
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| 14:00.30 | asulao | nsadmin, that worked thx |
| 14:00.35 | jelly | Ksilebo: where's your serial console! |
| 14:00.35 | osfd | nsadmin: I'm squeeze.. |
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| 14:00.50 | Ksilebo | jelly: Haha I could set that up actually. |
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| 14:01.09 | nasso_ | jackweb, okay. did that. will reboot. where will I find the png? :) |
| 14:01.15 | Ksilebo | 2 other machines that are on all the time (router and Mac mini) that can get serial. |
| 14:01.30 | nsadmin | osfd: and not exactly... you have to get your kernel updated, reboot into it, (squeeze? not yet you're not.) replace dpkg, apt and aptitude, then proceed with the bulk of the upgrade |
| 14:01.33 | adb | budgester1: first upgrade etch->lenny |
| 14:01.33 | jackweb | nasso_: run bootchart after reboot and bootchart.png will be in your $HOME. |
| 14:01.40 | Ksilebo | The mobo is an Intel server motherboard so I think it can do serial console redirect |
| 14:01.41 | jelly | Ksilebo: it would be nice to file a Severity: important bug for that kernel image package, if it's not already reported |
| 14:01.55 | Ksilebo | jelly: How do I go about doing that correclty? |
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| 14:02.02 | Ksilebo | Is there a template for me to follow? |
| 14:02.31 | nsadmin | and there are steps to do right after replacing the kernel, outlined in the release notes. (briefly... bring your etch fully up to date, then make sure aptitude doesn't have things to do) |
| 14:02.33 | nasso_ | jackweb, okay. thanks for the help. rebooting now :) |
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| 14:03.09 | enouf | jackweb: have you seen the insserv pkg? |
| 14:03.11 | jelly | Ksilebo: well, you'd install reportbug and run it. It gathers some package data and prepares a skeleton mail message for the bug tracking system |
| 14:03.13 | GhostlyDeath | For SSH how can I disable stuff like port forwarding, x forwarding, console access, etc. for a certain user? |
| 14:03.29 | jelly | Ksilebo: http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting |
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| 14:04.02 | jackweb | enouf: no. |
| 14:04.29 | jackweb | enouf: will it help me? |
| 14:04.56 | enouf | jackweb: not sure - apt-cache show pkgname - i haven't used it yet |
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| 14:05.13 | enouf | jackweb: you want to speed up booting? |
| 14:05.27 | GhostlyDeath | I do not want this user to use X Forwarding and port forwarding |
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| 14:05.33 | jackweb | enouf: yeah. |
| 14:05.36 | GhostlyDeath | however I would still want to use such services |
| 14:05.39 | enouf | remove any/all DEs ; stop services and daemons from loading at boot |
| 14:05.58 | enouf | i use rcconf for that |
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| 14:06.55 | jackweb | enouf: I have already removed a few rows from rcconf. |
| 14:07.03 | Ksilebo | jelly: Thanks. I've only filed bugs for my company's software, so hopefully I do this right. |
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| 14:08.41 | nsadmin | osfd so the order I told you those things is fairly screwed up... to get a clear picture (it's hard to edit thoughts on irc), look at the release notes |
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| 14:08.46 | sylar | hi |
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| 14:09.04 | enouf | jackweb: oh well - all i can say is my p150 boots into a win98 desktop in under 20 seconds :-P |
| 14:09.05 | sylar | where in the /boot does it say how to load the root / ? |
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| 14:09.15 | GhostlyDeath | enouf: How would I do that? |
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| 14:09.27 | enouf | GhostlyDeath: many ways - many options |
| 14:09.31 | xjunior | hi, I can't swap from X to shell using ctrl+alt+fN |
| 14:09.46 | enouf | xjunior: you mean X to console |
| 14:10.13 | enouf | shells run in X as well |
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| 14:10.38 | enouf | likely your buggy nvidia or ati binary blob |
| 14:10.41 | nsadmin | sylar: two places, the boot loader config file and /etc/fstab |
| 14:11.06 | xjunior | enouf, whatever.... |
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| 14:11.19 | sylar | nsadmin, what if /etc is on another partition with mdadm lvm |
| 14:11.29 | enouf | sylar: if grub1, then menu.lst and such |
| 14:11.46 | sylar | enouf, I use grub |
| 14:11.57 | enouf | no, i said grub1 |
| 14:11.59 | nsadmin | sylar: that's probably not recommended... / and /etc should be same partition |
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| 14:13.04 | nsadmin | what debian version/codename uses grub2 in any capacity? |
| 14:13.09 | sylar | nsadmin, yes / and /etc/ are on the same partition, but /boot will be at a different partition |
| 14:13.24 | nsadmin | sylar: yes, that's normal |
| 14:13.30 | enouf | nsadmin: any / all (atleast from stable on) |
| 14:13.44 | sylar | nsadmin, but i wonder how will boot know to load / |
| 14:13.57 | nsadmin | so it's available in lenny |
| 14:14.06 | enouf | your bootloader handles it sylar |
| 14:14.11 | nsadmin | and therefore considered stable? |
| 14:14.15 | sylar | nsadmin, because now it is all on the same partion, and I am going to move to raid5+lvm |
| 14:14.20 | enouf | judd: versions grub-pc |
| 14:14.20 | judd | enouf: grub-pc -- lenny: 1.96+20080724-16 sid: 1.96+20080724-16 squeeze: 1.96+20080724-16 experimental: 1.96+20081201-1 |
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| 14:14.57 | nsadmin | none on etch? |
| 14:14.59 | sylar | enouf, is it this line: kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18-5-686 root=/dev/sdd1 ro |
| 14:15.15 | enouf | go look for yourself |
| 14:15.18 | nsadmin | yes, which is the kernel command line |
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| 14:15.32 | sylar | I am on etch still |
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| 14:15.52 | enouf | sylar: yep - but the other lines (the entire Stanza) are still important too |
| 14:15.54 | nsadmin | so you should be on grub1 still\ |
| 14:16.00 | Ksilebo | Hm, wouldn't be surprised if its a bad cable too. |
| 14:16.14 | Ksilebo | I'll swap it out for some CAT6 that I have here |
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| 14:16.27 | enouf | who cares - all he had to do was say "i'm using grub1, not grub2" |
| 14:16.47 | nsadmin | sylar: so you're about to do some copying soon |
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| 14:17.02 | nsadmin | is grub2 better at raid booting? |
| 14:17.17 | enouf | sylar: that kernel is security-flawed |
| 14:17.24 | piper69 | can someone please look at my sourecs.list and the output i get when i do apt-get update and tell me what i am missing please http://paste.debian.net/29575/ and http://paste.debian.net/29574 |
| 14:17.29 | sylar | so what should I write instead of root=/dev/sdd1? /dev/mapper/MyLvmOnRaid5_LV ? |
| 14:17.36 | xjunior | hi, some keys aren't working, how do I fix it? they are being detected on xev. |
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| 14:18.24 | enouf | !keymap |
| 14:18.24 | dpkg | To change your console keymap, run "dpkg-reconfigure console-data". To change your X keymap, read "man xmodmap", or ask me about <set up x> or <drxx> or use kcontrol, gnome-control-center or similar. For setting up X keymaps, also check out xkeycaps and xev, or ask me about <multimedia keys>. In console you can also use "loadkeys" for once-only/temporary adjustments. |
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| 14:19.15 | nsadmin | sylar: -perhaps- go to using uuids |
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| 14:19.34 | xjunior | enouf, I already did it, but didn't solve |
| 14:19.56 | twoface | is it possible to install dnsmasq without dbus support? |
| 14:19.59 | enouf | i did it too - feels wonderful |
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| 14:20.45 | enouf | judd: depends dnsmasq |
| 14:20.46 | judd | enouf: dnsmasq -- Depends: netbase, adduser, dnsmasq-base |
| 14:22.15 | twoface | dnsmasq-base depends on libdbus |
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| 14:22.37 | twoface | but i need it on a very small system, and dbus is unnecessary overhead |
| 14:23.04 | nsadmin | so... don't use dnsmasq? |
| 14:23.27 | nsadmin | or build it yourself? or find out why that dep exists by looking at the code? |
| 14:23.46 | xjunior | enouf, I configured it on gnome-control-center and d-r console-data. |
| 14:24.29 | enouf | maybe try the console-setup pkg - but i still say it's your video blob |
| 14:24.49 | xjunior | enouf, and the problem aren't with multimedia keys (which are working fine), but with "?" and "ç", also "/" |
| 14:24.53 | enouf | and until you state which one you're using, nobody can help |
| 14:25.03 | xjunior | enouf, video blob |
| 14:25.12 | xjunior | ? |
| 14:25.14 | enouf | !blob |
| 14:25.14 | dpkg | i guess blob is a data type used in a relational database that can contain any type of binary data, including sound,video, graphics, etc. or a closed-source binary only driver that may not work properly or expose security threats that the community cannot fix. See: http://www.techspot.com/news/23217-nvidia-binary-linux-drivers-security-exploit.html |
| 14:25.42 | nsadmin | blob is binary lob, lob is large object |
| 14:25.55 | enouf | xjunior: i don't know - but maybe your issue is the /msg dpkg insert |
| 14:26.09 | xjunior | enouf, ok, could you reformulate your question or guide me to answer it? |
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| 14:26.27 | enouf | !insert |
| 14:26.27 | dpkg | from memory, insert is Question; "why did the up and down arrow keys stop working on my ttys all of a sudden? they wont respond and show command history or anything. but the keys work fine in X" -- Answer is--> hit the Insert key to clear it up - seems to affect 2.6.26-1-686 Debian kernels.. NEWS: The insert problem is fixed in 2.6.26-7 |
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| 14:26.38 | twoface | nsadmin: i dont know of any other lightweight dns servers - and dbus can be disabled at compiletime, but an official package is preferable |
| 14:26.52 | brainsoft | in sid which pkg has xulrunner-xpcom.pc ? |
| 14:27.04 | brainsoft | I can't make a perl module |
| 14:27.05 | enouf | apt-file |
| 14:27.07 | xjunior | enouf, nop, not the insert key |
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| 14:27.37 | enouf | ok, then your video blob <-- last time |
| 14:27.42 | nsadmin | twoface: you could recode dnsmasq so that rather than selectable at compiletime, you give it an option at runtime |
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| 14:28.18 | stew | twoface: you can recompile the debian package with DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=nodbus |
| 14:28.26 | enouf | and i don't have any of these on my keyboard "ç" |
| 14:28.30 | bolt-work | how do I attach a file to a mail to bts? |
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| 14:28.36 | bolt-work | can I just use regular attachments? |
| 14:28.47 | stew | bolt-work: yes |
| 14:29.17 | bolt-work | goodie :) |
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| 14:29.47 | nsadmin | most dds will email with their gpg signature as an attachment |
| 14:29.54 | xjunior | enouf, ok, but what is video blob? how to check it out? |
| 14:30.15 | nsadmin | them mailing the bts should make their sig available to those viewing the bug report |
| 14:30.17 | xjunior | enouf, we use this char on latin langs |
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| 14:32.23 | nsadmin | xjunior the blob is probably the driver but as mentioned, could be anything, including firmware needed for the card -- I havent' heard of firmware for video cards tho |
| 14:32.49 | xjunior | nsadmin, enouf: intel 945gm |
| 14:33.02 | nsadmin | so look into it :) |
| 14:33.11 | xjunior | nsadmin, look what? |
| 14:33.53 | nsadmin | your speed at asking followup questions suggest you haven't done work between your being given answers |
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| 14:34.40 | bolt-work | sounds like someone's about to make a brick |
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| 14:35.21 | datacrusher | or reading |
| 14:35.35 | xjunior | nsadmin, well, I don't have enough parameters, look into my intel 945gm, great, look what? look where? |
| 14:35.44 | bolt-work | stew: yay. it worked. my first submitted patch :D |
| 14:36.05 | stew | bolt-work: great! did you tag the bug with the patch tag? |
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| 14:36.41 | nsadmin | xjunior: think of what you want to do with it... and remember that most hardware devices are supported by drivers in the form of kernel modules |
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| 14:37.14 | bolt-work | stew: not my bug. it was reported already, with a link to a fix for gentoo. it didn't patch into the debian sources, so i did it manually, diffed it again and submitted a patch for debian :) |
| 14:37.28 | nsadmin | xjunior: usually if you begin to open your eyes and look, more and more of the field become visible to you |
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| 14:38.02 | bolt-work | stew: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=505378 |
| 14:38.21 | xjunior | nsadmin, xorg.conf |
| 14:38.29 | xjunior | if not, I really don't kno |
| 14:38.30 | xjunior | know |
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| 14:39.49 | nsadmin | so is this about your video specifically? or are you still looking into your keys? |
| 14:40.08 | Witch-King | is 5GB enough for usr, and is 3GB enough for var? |
| 14:40.10 | xjunior | nsadmin, really, I don't know |
| 14:40.38 | nsadmin | ok, starting over (which I don't have time to do...) please state what you want to do |
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| 14:41.08 | stew | Witch-King: maybe. we wouldn't know how much you are planning to put on which partition |
| 14:41.29 | xjunior | nsadmin, I have some keys that seem to be not working, they appear on xev, but they don't appear on screen |
| 14:41.36 | Witch-King | stew, the autopartitioner set those up for me. but i suppose it would know best, yes? |
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| 14:41.46 | nsadmin | have they ever worked before? |
| 14:42.09 | stew | Witch-King: why are you putting /var and /usr onto their own partitions? |
| 14:42.34 | xjunior | nsadmin, yes, when I used gentoo, but not on this debian installation |
| 14:42.35 | Witch-King | stew, i don't know. i only told the partitoner to separate the partitions :x |
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| 14:42.50 | Witch-King | stew, why, should i only separate / and /home instead? |
| 14:43.01 | nsadmin | ok, so you now have some info you can explore... |
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| 14:43.44 | Eulex | Witch-King, the auto-partitioner can only give suggestions, and sometimes those are quite bad suggestions. |
| 14:43.48 | nsadmin | you need to find the difference between how gentoo handles keys, including a list of what additional keys they enable, and the same for debian |
| 14:44.03 | stew | Witch-King: if you don't have a reason to separate them, don't |
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| 14:44.18 | Witch-King | stew, so throw everything in one partition? :s |
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| 14:44.43 | nsadmin | xjunior essentially you need to find out why gentoo's key setup makes the keys you want work, and why debian does not |
| 14:44.57 | bolt-work | stew: please check that bug if you can. i don't know if I did everything right, and I would want this included. especially since it's a very low-risk one line change |
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| 14:46.11 | nsadmin | xjunior once you have this information you can then try to find whether debian provides specific support or whether you have to manually edit somethign or whether it's something else, and if so what |
| 14:46.48 | nsadmin | once yhou have this information, you will have at least two choices for solutions |
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| 14:52.52 | hark | darren: lspci -nn |
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| 14:54.04 | darren | hark, the line for the new card is '00:14.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Honeywell IAC Device [10ac:8139] (rev 10)' |
| 14:54.45 | enouf | judd: pciid 10ac:8139 |
| 14:54.45 | judd | enouf: [10ac:8139] is 'Unknown device' from 'Honeywell IAC' with no known kernel module in lenny or in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.cgi?check=1&lspci=10ac:8139 |
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| 14:55.12 | Witch-King | uhh..crap. the debian installer said that the package 'tar' was corrupt. x( |
| 14:55.19 | stew | bolt-work: if you've submitted a patch, you should add the patch tag by sending an email with "tag 505378 patch" to control@bugs.debian.org |
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| 14:56.10 | darren | judd, so no driver. Guess I won't be using that NIC after all :) |
| 14:56.10 | judd | darren: Error: "so" is not a valid command. |
| 14:56.30 | mrjohns1 | Hi! I'm having some trouble with setting up quota. I have set up group quota with a soft and hard limit. But the user can't exceed the soft limit at all. it acts like an hard limit. Any tips? |
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| 14:57.04 | bolt-work | stew: i put that in the subject? |
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| 14:58.21 | bolt-work | stew: sent it with that in both the subject and the body :) |
| 14:58.35 | stew | bolt-work: the body, the subject is ignored |
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| 15:00.47 | bolt-work | stew: ok. found the "advanced information" on bts now. i'll read through that in my lunch break :) |
| 15:01.25 | ailaG | Hi.. Stupid question, I'm on a server that hasn't been updated for ages. Its kernel's version is 2.4, and it pretty much runs LAMP only. If I just upgrade (which I've never done before) what problems can result from it? |
| 15:01.46 | ailaG | because it's a server that we hardly upgrade from fear of downtime and "well, it works as it is.." |
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| 15:02.19 | WX_0 | ailaG: Virtually, anything can go wrong |
| 15:02.34 | WX_0 | However, I recommend just making a raw backup of the drives, then attempting to upgrade |
| 15:03.41 | icebrain | ailaG: try making a exact copy to another box and upgrading there first, no? |
| 15:03.50 | icebrain | ailaG: maybe even a virtual box |
| 15:04.58 | bolt-work | stew: thanks for the help btw |
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| 15:07.27 | lxsameer | hi is there any way to only download some package from repository? i already install some of them |
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| 15:08.43 | ailaG | ok.. thanks |
| 15:10.13 | hark | lxsameer: aptitude download foo |
| 15:10.53 | lxsameer | hark: even i installed it before? |
| 15:11.25 | hark | yes |
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| 15:13.35 | s7itch3s | i have the lenny net installer hung up at 74% "installing locales". any ideas? |
| 15:13.51 | kb3ien | giving serious thought to ditching ubuntu on my g4 desktop in favour of debian5 anyone else make that determination? |
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| 15:14.12 | bolt-work | kb3ien: no, everyone here prefers ubuntu |
| 15:14.18 | tomodachi | and not everyone prefers debian |
| 15:14.23 | lxsameer | does aptitude use apt cache directory? |
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| 15:15.13 | lxsameer | hark: does aptitude download foo package with its dependencies? |
| 15:15.16 | bolt-work | lxsameer: yes |
| 15:15.42 | bolt-work | kb3ien: go right ahead. welcome to debian :) |
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| 15:16.04 | s7itch3s | nvm, it just takes about 10 minutes on my pentium 133mhz 64mb |
| 15:16.05 | JyZyXEL | i still haven't updated any of my etch boxs to lenny |
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| 15:16.44 | michael_1 | i have a raid 5 which is very slow (hwraid), 46MB/s max on large files with XFS, any ideas what could be the cause? there are no bad sectors and its 15k disks on u160 controller, its tested with 'dd if=largefile of=/dev/null'? |
| 15:16.54 | JyZyXEL | the upgrade manual pretty much says theres 99% chance of fucking everything up |
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| 15:17.20 | budgester1 | note: for anyone who helped me earlier, you guys are ninjas |
| 15:17.36 | JyZyXEL | michael_1 thats not slow |
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| 15:18.18 | michael_1 | JyZyXEL: normally one disk performs this much |
| 15:18.23 | hark | lxsameer: no, maybe use something like apt-zip for that |
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| 15:18.27 | nsadmin | michael_1 what are you using it for |
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| 15:20.13 | nsadmin | michael_1 it's hwraid? does it perform any better under windows? |
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| 15:21.44 | enouf | michael_1: ahci? |
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| 15:27.15 | sepski | michael_, and how many disks are there in the array ? |
| 15:27.22 | enouf | bah, you said hwraid and the u160 is the scsi giveaway - so .. u160 isn't a u320 |
| 15:27.52 | enouf | and what's your chunk size? |
| 15:28.17 | lxsameer | how can i download some udebs from a repository? |
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| 15:28.31 | enouf | and add a bs=4M to that dd |
| 15:28.54 | bolt-work | tjo-bing! |
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| 15:32.29 | mrjohns1 | Hi! I'm having some trouble with setting up quota. I have set up group quota with a soft and hard limit. But the user can't exceed the soft limit at all. it acts like an hard limit. Any tips? |
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| 15:34.23 | enouf | mrjohns1: can the user exceed the hard limit? (i know it seems silly, but might help) |
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| 15:49.14 | aidan | where can I find the the relax-ng docbook schema for docbook5? |
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| 15:51.08 | mrjohns1 | enouf: The problem is that it can't exceed the soft limit so I could never get to the hard limit testing :p |
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| 15:53.04 | enouf | remove the soft limit and test |
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| 15:56.23 | enouf | and what FStypes and how are you mounting, and with what options, and ... |
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| 16:02.52 | s7itch3s | how's LXDE compared to fluxbox and xfce? |
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| 16:03.25 | bolt-work | s7itch3s: google them all. find screenshots and stuff. |
| 16:03.38 | theholyduck | s7itch3s, its like in the middle :P |
| 16:03.39 | s7itch3s | yeah, i mean in speed |
| 16:03.44 | theholyduck | all the booring of xfce. |
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| 16:03.51 | theholyduck | with all the minimalistic of flux |
| 16:03.52 | s7itch3s | theholyduck: nice, thanks |
| 16:03.57 | theholyduck | it sucks |
| 16:03.59 | theholyduck | but whatever |
| 16:04.03 | theholyduck | i wouldnt use lxde if you paid me |
| 16:04.47 | WX_0 | theholyduck: LXDE also lacks some useful packages (e.g.: For auto-mounting of USB devices) - there's a reason though, why it's called "light [...]" |
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| 16:06.22 | theholyduck | WX_0, i always prefered using thunar + fluxbox for all my desktop enviroment needs |
| 16:06.23 | JyZyXEL | who cares there are alot of other auto-mounters |
| 16:07.08 | s7itch3s | i think i'll skip the desktop install then put fluxbox on there afterwards |
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| 16:07.51 | WX_0 | JyZyXEL: My point is, usually that comes as an environment package (It does in GNOME, KDE, XFCE...) |
| 16:08.29 | JyZyXEL | how useless |
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| 16:09.42 | s7itch3s | has anyone seen the screenshot on the website, or on wikipedia? it has an ie6 icon on the desktop |
| 16:10.33 | stew | s7itch3s: which? |
| 16:10.33 | utabak | hi all, experiencing a strange problem for the 1st time, in aptitude I can not any packages for installation, I can not mark them with +, any ideas |
| 16:10.46 | s7itch3s | stew: LXDE |
| 16:10.56 | WX_0 | utabak: No packages are installing? |
| 16:11.04 | WX_0 | utabak: What's the error message? |
| 16:11.15 | utabak | WX_0: yep, even in root mode, there is nothing |
| 16:11.29 | utabak | + does not mark anything at all |
| 16:11.35 | WX_0 | utabak: aptitude install [package] |
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| 16:11.37 | utabak | no err msgs |
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| 16:11.50 | WX_0 | utabak: Also try aptitude update and aptitude upgrade |
| 16:12.04 | utabak | WX_0: yep I already did |
| 16:12.07 | adb | wrong sources ? |
| 16:12.30 | WX_0 | utabak: You're not making any sense - you already updated, upgraded, and installed the packages you needed - what's wrong then? |
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| 16:13.05 | s7itch3s | i think he means he already tried that. ie aptitude update |
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| 16:13.45 | utabak | WX_0: I would like to install a2ps, but i can not install from the aptitude what is found and any other packages, I can not select them for installation |
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| 16:14.15 | WX_0 | utabak: That still doesn't make any sense - you're not "selecting" anything, you're entering a command and reading the output |
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| 16:14.26 | unixdawg | morning I just installed lenny on a mocro drive and am trying to do a install but the repo/apt sourcelist does not seem complete |
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| 16:15.09 | s7itch3s | utabak: from the command line type "aptitude install a2ps" |
| 16:15.12 | utabak | WX_0: I want to mark that for installation, it turns into green and you give the authorisation and it goes but the point is that I can not mark it, am I missing sth |
| 16:15.33 | utabak | s7itch3s: no use I did that as well |
| 16:15.57 | abrotman | utabak: if you type `aptitude install a2ps` what is the error you get? |
| 16:16.00 | s7itch3s | utabak: what are the errors? |
| 16:16.25 | abrotman | unixdawg: put them in a paste.debian.net please |
| 16:16.26 | utabak | abrotman: No candidate version found for a2ps |
| 16:16.39 | unixdawg | I just got the ones missing |
| 16:16.46 | abrotman | utabak: also put your sources.list at paste.debian.net |
| 16:16.48 | unixdawg | main contrip |
| 16:16.52 | utabak | abrotman: I am using the 1st sources.list from the installation actually |
| 16:16.52 | unixdawg | p/b |
| 16:16.59 | unixdawg | where not in the list' |
| 16:17.04 | utabak | abrotman: OK |
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| 16:18.51 | utabak | abrotman: here comes : http://paste.debian.net/29588/ |
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| 16:20.39 | themill | utabak: have you run "aptitude update" recently? |
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| 16:21.07 | utabak | themill: one second ago |
| 16:21.25 | adb | any errors ? |
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| 16:22.01 | themill | utabak: can you pastebin the output of "aptitude update ; apt-cache policy; apt-cache policy a2ps" |
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| 16:23.46 | utabak | themill: here it is : http://paste.debian.net/29589/ |
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| 16:24.15 | tralala | utabak, update, not upgrade |
| 16:24.19 | themill | utabak: your pinning is borked beyond belief. What were actually trying to do? /msg dpkg pinning |
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| 16:24.50 | morph | salve |
| 16:24.58 | utabak | themill: I tried to install flash-plugins, yes that is I guess the problem, now remembered |
| 16:25.15 | AliTarihi | Hi. I have problem with Pin Package in maintaining mixed repos. |
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| 16:25.26 | morph | someone have worked whit zenity? |
| 16:25.40 | themill | utabak: get rid of all your pinning and install the package from either lenny-backports or from dmm. /msg dpkg adobe flash |
| 16:26.00 | gmap | Hi, I have a minimal netinst of debian and would like to setup a kiosk environment that automatically logs in and launches starx on boot up (without user intervention). Currently I have to manually type in the username and password. and then run startx |
| 16:26.08 | hark | utabak: did you follow the instructions in the debian wiki (flashplayer)? |
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| 16:26.44 | utabak | hark, not sure right now, I remember I read the debian wiki but really not sure |
| 16:27.13 | themill | hark: they're woefully out of date :( |
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| 16:27.27 | hark | yeah |
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| 16:27.46 | themill | hark: that's also the most braindead pinning scheme that I've ever seen |
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| 16:28.11 | utabak | themill: what is pinning by the way :) |
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| 16:28.17 | themill | dpkg: tell utabak about pinning |
| 16:28.48 | s7itch3s | dpkg: tell s7itch3s about pinning |
| 16:29.16 | tralala | s7itch3s, just msg the bot |
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| 16:29.52 | s7itch3s | ha, and how would i do that? |
| 16:30.11 | avu | s7itch3s, /msg dpkg foo |
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| 16:31.38 | minerale | how can I md5 an entire directory recursively? (I'd like 1 hash for the whole thing) -- I was thinking of doing a tar into stdout, but there has got to be a better option |
| 16:32.30 | utabak | themill: thanks the problem solved, I remembered I put a preferences file for pinning and I removed that from /etc/apt/ was this what you meant |
| 16:33.08 | themill | minerale: tar probably also won't work as you expect as it will record thinks like directory dates and ownership too which you probably don't want included in the md5sum. |
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| 16:36.27 | BCM43 | I installed debian on a acer aspire one via usb, and it said not operatins system when i booted up, so i booted with a xubuntu live cd, fixed it so it found grub, but now it says error 21: selected disk does not exist |
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| 16:37.26 | rhodescus | minerale: find /home -depth -type f -print0 | xargs --null md5sum >> home.md5sums |
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| 16:37.53 | DeathWolf | hello all, how can I tell apt to not upgrade a specific package/keep it at a specific version? |
| 16:37.54 | rhodescus | minerale: ooops |
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| 16:38.45 | rhodescus | minerale: find /home -depth -type f -print | cpio -p | md5sum |
| 16:38.51 | rhodescus | minerale: that's what you want |
| 16:39.14 | themill | to DeathWolf hold |
| 16:39.16 | brutus_ | I have nvidia-glx installed, still my computer uses the vesa driver...as a result I can't change desktop effects, or even resolution. Please help! |
| 16:39.18 | themill | bah |
| 16:39.21 | themill | dpkg: tell DeathWolf about hold |
| 16:39.47 | DeathWolf | thanks the-dude! |
| 16:39.49 | s7itch3s | BCM43: did you install using a to a usb drive or from a usb drive |
| 16:39.51 | DeathWolf | err themill |
| 16:39.59 | BCM43 | from |
| 16:40.06 | minerale | rhodescus: sweet, thanks |
| 16:40.15 | BCM43 | s7itch3s: ^ |
| 16:40.19 | rhodescus | minerale: you're welcome |
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| 16:41.15 | s7itch3s | BCM43: yeah, ive had that problem before. im trying to think of what it was. something with the mbr in the wrong place or not pointing to the correct image |
| 16:41.36 | themill | DeathWolf: looks like a great day for tab completion... |
| 16:41.56 | minerale | rhodescus: ah wait, cpio -p complains not enough parameters |
| 16:42.05 | s7itch3s | BCM43: so when you used the live cd, you reinstalled the mbr? |
| 16:42.06 | minerale | I guess I need to specify stdio as input |
| 16:42.20 | minerale | rhodescus: maye cpio -r - ? |
| 16:42.21 | rhodescus | minerale: cpio -pmd |
| 16:43.00 | BCM43 | s7itch3s: no, i changed it so that it pointed to the right place so grub would load. |
| 16:43.28 | s7itch3s | so the bios isnt seeing grub on the mbr |
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| 16:43.55 | minerale | rhodescus: still not enough arguments... and cpio's man page is almost nothing |
| 16:44.06 | BCM43 | s7itch3s: no, it was not, but i fixed that. Now grub is loading but can't load debian |
| 16:44.18 | rhodescus | minerale: uh, try cpio -p - |
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| 16:45.06 | junix|work | since the release of debian 5.0 with SSH 5.X, has anyone sucecessfully setup a chroot policy?? |
| 16:45.11 | brutus_ | Hi, I have the nvidia-glx driver installed, yet my computer doesn't recognize it...I can't change desktop effects, not even screen resolution! Could somebody please help me out? My xorg.conf is here: http://pastebin.com/m5bbc6860 |
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| 16:46.17 | rhodescus | minerale: ouch, that's broken. redirect cpio output to a temp file, then md5sum that. |
| 16:46.44 | s7itch3s | BCM43: ah, i was having a hard time understanding. it sounds like if you are loading grub and have the menu for normal boot or recovery mode or mem test or whatever, that your are not pointing to the correct partition |
| 16:46.49 | BCM43 | s7itch3s: ok, i changed "root (hd1,0)" to "root (hd0,0)" and now it boots till the usbhid v2.6 HID core driver |
| 16:46.54 | BCM43 | then stops |
| 16:47.04 | enouf | minerale: http://www.gnu.org/software/cpio/manual/html_mono/cpio.html |
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| 16:48.23 | rhodescus | minerale: sorry, it was cpio -o, not cpio -p |
| 16:48.26 | mrjohns1 | enouf: tried to just use hard limit now. that worked the same way as the soft. |
| 16:48.42 | enouf | mrjohns1: ok, and? |
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| 16:48.49 | rhodescus | minerale: my bad |
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| 16:49.23 | BCM43 | s7itch3s: any other ideas? I'm fooling around with the line "root (hd1,0)" |
| 16:50.15 | s7itch3s | BCM43: so the kernel is hanging up. in the same place you changed "hd1,0" delete the last word in that sentence quiet. then try again and we may see the error |
| 16:50.24 | enouf | BCM43: mayeb rootdelay=15 or so? |
| 16:50.44 | mrjohns1 | enouf: you have any ideas of why the soft acts as a hard limit? ext3 with grpquota mount option. |
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| 16:51.06 | BCM43 | s7itch3s: delete the last word in that sentence quiet? what does that mean? |
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| 16:51.24 | s7itch3s | sorry, delete the word "quiet" |
| 16:51.25 | enouf | mrjohns1: not yet - but atleast that's more info - also where are you setting the quota? |
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| 16:51.44 | magyar_ | hi, is there a way to add a user to a group and not haveto logout and in? |
| 16:51.50 | BCM43 | s7itch3s: from your s? |
| 16:51.53 | enouf | BCM43: remove the quiet boot param |
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| 16:52.09 | BCM43 | enouf: there is none |
| 16:52.10 | s7itch3s | it will make the boot process verbose so we may see where the problem lies |
| 16:52.14 | enouf | quiet == suppress messages - you don't want that |
| 16:52.23 | BCM43 | where would that be? |
| 16:52.23 | enouf | oh |
| 16:52.34 | BCM43 | i see root(hd1,0) |
| 16:52.40 | enouf | cat /proc/cmdline (on your kernel line) |
| 16:52.48 | s7itch3s | hit "e" when at the grub menu |
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| 16:52.51 | s7itch3s | to edit |
| 16:52.54 | BCM43 | i know |
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| 16:53.34 | BCM43 | nope, still gets stuck in the same place |
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| 16:54.35 | s7itch3s | well right, but can you see what didnt load, as in what the last few lines until it hangs up |
| 16:55.00 | BCM43 | s7itch3s: that is usb stuff, before that the kernel |
| 16:55.18 | enouf | unplug your usb crap |
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| 16:55.38 | BCM43 | I can't |
| 16:55.41 | BCM43 | built in web cam |
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| 16:55.46 | BCM43 | but i will unplug the mouse |
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| 16:56.01 | enouf | blacklist the modules |
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| 16:56.56 | BCM43 | ok, in unpluged the mouse, now it stops at clocksource tsc unstable (delta = -307698870 ns) |
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| 16:57.22 | BCM43 | before that usb, before that mounting root file system |
| 16:58.10 | BCM43 | enouf: how do i black list the modules? |
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| 16:59.37 | enouf | !blacklist |
| 16:59.37 | dpkg | In etch, lenny and sid, create/edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local and add a line similar to this (without quotes): "blacklist module_name". IMPORTANT: ask about <blacklist-initramfs>. For sarge ask me about <blacklist sarge>. To blacklist a module at installation time, ask me about <installer blacklist>. If this doesn't work, do 'echo "install modulename /bin/true" >> /etc/modprobe.d/myblacklist'. |
| 16:59.39 | cirzgamanti` | is there a command line tool to upload *m4v* files to the ipod? i used gnupod_addsong, which copies it to the ipod, but it won't appear anywhere afterwards. |
| 16:59.48 | enouf | and see the important one too |
| 17:00.04 | BCM43 | enouf: should i do that with a live cd? |
| 17:00.15 | enouf | what? |
| 17:00.22 | cirzgamanti` | damn, wrong channel sorry |
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| 17:00.46 | BCM43 | enouf: how do i do that without booting? |
| 17:00.47 | enouf | BCM43: if that's what you need to do to edit files, then yes |
| 17:00.53 | BCM43 | ok, thanks |
| 17:01.03 | enouf | BCM43: chroot; edit |
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| 17:02.01 | enouf | BCM43: or .. just mount your / somewhere else, mkdir; edit files - or just pass kernel options or ... /msg dpkg fixmbr for general chroot howto |
| 17:02.13 | arvind_khadri | hi, can someone please confirm that the startup sounds in lenny are broken? |
| 17:02.17 | BCM43 | enouf: I'm a little confused |
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| 17:03.27 | cirzgamanti` | arvind_khadri: gnome desktop? |
| 17:03.28 | abrotman | arvind_khadri: in a window manager? |
| 17:03.43 | abrotman | arvind_khadri: you likely need to install the alsa esd connector doohickey |
| 17:03.45 | arvind_khadri | cirzgamanti`, ya |
| 17:03.56 | abrotman | it's like libesd-alsa0 or something |
| 17:04.08 | arvind_khadri | abrotman, on the login... the startup sounds.... |
| 17:04.14 | abrotman | it's like libesd-alsa0 or something |
| 17:04.48 | arvind_khadri | abrotman, checking |
| 17:05.24 | gmap | do I need gdm to autologin? |
| 17:06.03 | enouf | BCM43: clocksource tsc unstable <--that might be the underlying issue - what Debian release is that? |
| 17:06.06 | abrotman | it has that option |
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| 17:07.03 | gmap | could I install gdm without all of the gui. I just want to autologin and start firefox |
| 17:07.06 | enouf | BCM43: http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.26/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt#L400 |
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| 17:07.23 | abrotman | gmap: weren't we going over this last night .. and i told you to do it with init scripts? |
| 17:07.38 | gmap | i couldnt figure out the init scripts |
| 17:07.51 | enouf | BCM43: note; i joined your issue late - so i don't have the full story |
| 17:08.12 | gmap | seemed way to complicated to edit that init.d/skeleton script |
| 17:08.28 | enouf | you could use rc.local perhaps |
| 17:08.35 | arvind_khadri | abrotman, thanks a lot... |
| 17:08.51 | jhamlin | Hi folks I need to make some floppy disk images (1.44 mb, formated for dos) but I don't have a floppy drive. These images just need to contain several files I already have on my computer. How would I go about doing this? |
| 17:09.00 | enouf | or.. just customize another runlevel [3,4,5] |
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| 17:09.30 | gmap | enouf would I just add the line "startx" to the end of rc.local? |
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| 17:09.32 | enouf | jhamlin: burn them to cd? i don't get it |
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| 17:10.03 | abrotman | gmap: if your user .xsession has something like `exec firefox` .. and you call su - <username> "startx" from your init script .. that doesn't work ? |
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| 17:10.35 | s7itch3s | jhamlin: RawWrite |
| 17:10.38 | enouf | gmap: or .. some specific firefox command, but su username first, or something -- if startx calls on your GUI then yeah (see update-alternatives --config x-{tab}{tab}) |
| 17:10.47 | gmap | my .xsession has 'ratpoison iceweasel' |
| 17:10.54 | abrotman | no .. |
| 17:10.57 | abrotman | exec iceweasel |
| 17:11.07 | abrotman | you likely don't want a window manager running |
| 17:11.27 | abrotman | you'll probably also want to explore options to make IW fullscreen on start, and maybe disable a few other options |
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| 17:11.43 | gmap | yea, but isnt ratpoison the window manager. it works fine when typing startx |
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| 17:12.31 | enouf | jhamlin: you could create blank sized files using dd ; then mkdosfs on them; then copy over the data |
| 17:12.50 | enouf | jhamlin: the file size just needs to be exact or so .. IINM |
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| 17:13.10 | abrotman | gmap: what do you need a window manager for? |
| 17:13.18 | gmap | cause without it |
| 17:13.23 | gmap | it says no display found |
| 17:13.26 | gmap | something like that |
| 17:13.41 | jhamlin | enouf: hmmm not sure what you mean by file size needs to be exact or so... |
| 17:13.45 | abrotman | if you do what instead ? |
| 17:13.56 | gmap | exec iceweasel |
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| 17:14.43 | gmap | 'startx ratpoison iceweasel' works though |
| 17:15.40 | enouf | jhamlin: let me ask, is any of this what you want/need? http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/main/installer-i386/current/images/floppy/ |
| 17:18.11 | s7itch3s | enouf: wouldn't it be .../dists/lenny/ma.. |
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| 17:19.52 | osfd | hello...Should I be worried about a non booting system and a message like kernel panic - not syncing: no init found -- try passing init=option to kernel ? |
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| 17:22.16 | osfd | actually, this is not a question... :( |
| 17:22.17 | enouf | jhamlin: well, start here; dd if=/dev/zero of=/somefloppy.img01 bs=1474560 count=1 <-- then mkfs on it |
| 17:22.45 | enouf | s7itch3s: i have no idea what he wants |
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| 17:23.03 | zrin | hello, I'm trying to install lenny on GA-7VAXP (VIA KT400A / VIA 8235) with a 4-Port Promise PCI SATA controller; I can boot from installer CD, but installed lenny kernel hangs at the very beginning after "checking EDD", even with "edd=off"; If I disconnect the 4 SATA HDDs from the controller, then the kernel boots! I'll be thankful for any hint (google didn't really help)... |
| 17:23.19 | BCM43 | enouf: i'm back, this is my original post: I installed debian on a acer aspire one via usb, and it said not operatins system when i booted up, so i booted with a xubuntu live cd, fixed it so it found grub, but now it says error 21: selected disk does not exist |
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| 17:23.33 | enouf | jhutchins_lt2: once mkfs is done (ignore errors, use force) then mount the file on a /dev/loopX device |
| 17:23.37 | nareshov | zrin: change mode in bios from ahci to sata? |
| 17:23.48 | enouf | erm jhamlin . not jhutchins_lt2 |
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| 17:24.09 | zrin | nareshov: this is a PCI SATA controller, no SATA on board |
| 17:24.10 | Suzu | hi ! |
| 17:24.18 | nareshov | o |
| 17:24.24 | nareshov | hi Suzu <3 |
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| 17:24.37 | Thomaschaaf | Hey guys are there any raid 1 alternatives so I can add drives as I go but still keep everything backuped? |
| 17:24.39 | bugjar | is there a way to default install etch? i thought maybe a netinstall 4.0 but then it dawned on me ( after I saw it installed 'stable/lenny' ) |
| 17:24.59 | bugjar | that it would install 'stable' :(\ |
| 17:25.09 | zrin | Thomaschaaf: adding raid1 pairs to zfs :) |
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| 17:25.22 | enouf | BCM43: doesn't seem too fixed, eh? |
| 17:25.45 | enouf | BCM43: are you even sure Debian got installed? |
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| 17:26.05 | osfd | is there a way to get my system back..? actually I was in testing (lenny) everything was going pretty well...and then I stayed in testing...did an upgrade lately and then...all broke up...? any help please..? |
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| 17:26.11 | BCM43 | enouf: i booted up with ubuntu live cd and it said that it was installed |
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| 17:27.06 | jhamlin | enouf: many thanks; very helpful. Trying to get the DOS software for a very old xray machine running under virtualbox... |
| 17:27.06 | enouf | BCM43: ok - well - which bootloader during debian install? grub1 or grub2? and any LVM/RAID/crypto? |
| 17:27.27 | bugjar | osfd - i think apt/aptitude knows how to ininstall, even rather smart uninstalls, but i *think* you have to know what you want to uninstall.. sounds like log-reading. :^\ |
| 17:27.40 | elik | osfd, if you are in testing, you should know that you need to tell more than "all broke up" to get help |
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| 17:27.46 | elik | osfd, otherwise, stay on table |
| 17:27.55 | BCM43 | i'm not sure which grub, whichever is default in lenny net install, and installed onto 8gb ssd |
| 17:28.04 | enouf | jhamlin: here's some possible useful info - http://www.momonga-linux.org/docs/Removable-HOWTO/C/autogen-2.html http://www.bay-wolf.com/bootcd.htm http://syslinux.zytor.com/wiki/index.php/MEMDISK |
| 17:28.09 | mrjohns1 | Hi! I'm having some trouble with setting up quota. I have set up group quota with a soft and hard limit. But the user can't exceed the soft limit at all. it acts like an hard limit. Any tips? The partition is ext3 with grpquota mount option. repquota show correct soft and hard limit. |
| 17:28.12 | zrin | I'll simplify ... if kernel boots when there are no hdds attached to a Promise pci sata controller, but hangs at the very beginning of the boot process otherwise - what are the chances to find out what is going on? When booting from installer-CD everything seems fine, I can access all HDDs - IDE and SATA... |
| 17:28.30 | seria-mau | is there an xfont like terminus with more sizes? 14 is too large and 12 to small |
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| 17:28.52 | enouf | jhamlin: note; make sure lsmod | grep loop shows that module is loaded, as well as your FStype ones, msdos, fat, vfat, and man losetup |
| 17:29.10 | enouf | jhamlin: oh dosfstools and mtools pkgs might help |
| 17:29.26 | bugjar | osfd - *maybe* you can change apt to stable then dist-upgrade |
| 17:29.27 | osfd | elik: I actually don't know more than kernel panic - not syncing: no init found -- try passing init=option to kernel |
| 17:29.28 | arejay | gzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--format violated |
| 17:29.28 | arejay | Err http://ftp.us.debian.org testing/main Sources |
| 17:29.28 | arejay | Sub-process gzip returned an error code |
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| 17:29.31 | arejay | any ideas? |
| 17:29.34 | zrin | Thomaschaaf: you can do it with LVM, e.g. by adding raid1 pairs to LVM volume group |
| 17:29.53 | elik | osfd, do you have an old kernel? and btw, that's a lot more information than your previous request |
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| 17:30.34 | bugjar | osfd - ah, not even booting. erg. what happens when init=/bin/sh? |
| 17:30.56 | enouf | jhamlin: instead of fdformat /dev/fd0H1440, your fdformat /dev/loopX or similar - there are by default 8 available /dev/loopX devices X == 0-7 |
| 17:31.00 | osfd | elik: I already said that before...hhmm, my kernel is 2.6.27... |
| 17:31.16 | elik | osfd, sorry, didn't pick it up |
| 17:31.34 | enouf | jhamlin: note; many windows apps can be run within WINE |
| 17:31.38 | osfd | elik no problem |
| 17:31.46 | elik | osfd, 2.6.27 is not on testing yet.. at least I don't have it |
| 17:32.10 | plsd | I'm using Debian 5.0 and IceWeasel is giving me some problems. It keeps loading the sites but nothing happens. If I stop and click the link again it works fine. I thought it was the addon vimperator but I deactivated it and the problem is still there. Anyone else experienced this? |
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| 17:33.11 | osfd | elik: hhmm, actually I've been in testing for 3 month now...so the actual lenny... |
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| 17:34.01 | elik | osfd, being on lenny and being on testing is not the same.. as of feb 14 |
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| 17:34.45 | Spindel | I have problems with installing ATI drivers, this is what I get http://goplay.se/spindel/terminalblajj2 - and this: http://goplay.se/spindel/terminalblajj3 :: Any suggestions? |
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| 17:35.25 | osfd | elik: for 3 month now, I've been using lenny....3 month ago, it was testing and now it's stable.....but but but, I did not changed my sources.list and let everything in testing..! |
| 17:36.02 | elik | osfd, so your sources state testing and not lenny, right, so you're in testing, and now on squeeze |
| 17:36.42 | osfd | elik: yeah..! |
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| 17:37.45 | arvind_khadri | !ati | Spindel |
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| 17:38.09 | arvind_khadri | dpkg, tell Spindel about ati |
| 17:38.11 | osfd | back back back |
| 17:38.33 | BCM43 | enouf: if i want long enough it says "gave up waiting for root device." now i am in busy box. |
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| 17:39.31 | elik | osfd, now, the question is, how the hell did you get on 2.6.27, it's not in sid, not in squeeze nor in lenny |
| 17:39.37 | asulao | Hello. what's the correct way of disabling a module from auto loading at boot? I've added an entry "blacklist <modname>" to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist but doesn't seem to work. |
| 17:39.50 | elik | osfd, 2.6.26 is the stable and testing kernel, 2.6.28 is on sid |
| 17:39.55 | tralala | BCM43, what do you get from ls -l /dev/disk/by-path/ |
| 17:40.17 | osfd | elik: wait a sec... |
| 17:40.23 | elik | osfd, so either you made a typo earlier, or you tempered with your system |
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| 17:40.41 | hark | asulao: /msg dpkg blacklist-initramfs |
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| 17:40.44 | BCM43 | tralala: i think that may have helped me solve it, hold on |
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| 17:40.50 | osfd | elik: yeah, typo it's 26 |
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| 17:41.26 | elik | osfd, ah, ok |
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| 17:41.39 | elik | osfd, do you have an older kernel, like 2.6.25? |
| 17:41.57 | osfd | elik: no :( |
| 17:42.23 | asulao | hark, thx |
| 17:42.29 | elik | you might want to give a try: <bugjar> osfd - ah, not even booting. erg. what happens when init=/bin/sh? |
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| 17:43.08 | mrjohns1 | Hi! I'm having some trouble with setting up quota. I have set up group quota with a soft and hard limit. But the group can't exceed the soft limit at all. it acts like an hard limit. Any tips? The partition is ext3 with grpquota mount option. repquota show correct soft and hard limit. |
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| 17:43.37 | osfd | elik: ? |
| 17:44.20 | osfd | elik: will I have to reinstall ? |
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| 17:45.02 | nareshov | Spindel: you probably need libxext-dev installed |
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| 17:45.05 | elik | osfd, no |
| 17:45.20 | elik | osfd, that should allow you to have a bit more info on previous crashes |
| 17:45.28 | arejay | gzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--format violated |
| 17:45.35 | arejay | anyone please, i cant apt-get update |
| 17:45.52 | enouf | BCM43: you want /by-uuid, or /by-label |
| 17:45.53 | osfd | elik: I did not get it, what should I do here ? |
| 17:46.03 | elik | osfd, you ight also be able to read the kernel logs from a live cd |
| 17:46.06 | enouf | BCM43: blkid output might also help |
| 17:46.26 | osfd | a live cd...yeah of course |
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| 17:46.42 | elik | osfd, when you see grub, you edit the kernel options and put what that guy told you to |
| 17:46.48 | elik | osfd, live cd might be easier |
| 17:47.01 | enouf | BCM43: so root=UUID=32132132-long-number , or root=LABEL=name - remove the 'root=' for /etc/fstab |
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| 17:47.28 | enouf | BCM43: you ever amnswer about lvm, or mdadm, or crypt? |
| 17:48.03 | osfd | elik: BRB |
| 17:48.09 | elik | osfd, yup |
| 17:48.11 | elik | osfd, gl |
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| 17:48.59 | varlon | hi, how to change default application (Rhythmbox) wich start when I plug my iPod to new application(gtkpod)? something need use like update-alterantives or some else? |
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| 17:49.36 | BCM43 | enouf: nope, none of them |
| 17:49.50 | nareshov | varlon: system > preferences > preferred applications |
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| 17:52.07 | Witch-King | whenever i burn a CD, it always fails integrity check. and i tried writing the debian image to a flash drive using UNetBootin but it failed. any suggestions on getting some install media other than buying a disk? |
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| 17:52.25 | wal3 | hello. I have a few GB big tar.gz archive. Is there a way to extract a certain file without reading the whole tarball? |
| 17:53.26 | varlon | nareshov, I'm useing debian lenny, gnome, so, in this dialog (preferred application) I can choise browser, mail client, terminal, media player (now mplayer), Orca and Dasher application. I didn't find any about iPod |
| 17:53.48 | damjan | wal3: tar xf big.tar.gz path/to/single/file |
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| 17:54.05 | zeta | how do i get the javaplugin working |
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| 17:54.12 | damjan | wal3: it will *read* the whole archive, but will not extract everything |
| 17:54.19 | BCM43 | Wicked: unetbooting failed? |
| 17:54.20 | mchelen | Witch-King, do other cds burn okay? |
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| 17:54.36 | BCM43 | Witch-King: : unetbooting failed? |
| 17:54.45 | Witch-King | mchelen, um, not sure |
| 17:55.09 | Witch-King | BCM43, yeah. the flash drive does not boot, even when explicitly selected for boot |
| 17:55.17 | enouf | BCM43: fix it yet? |
| 17:55.32 | Witch-King | i made a successful puppy linux flash drive a few weeks ago, not sure why this one does not work |
| 17:55.32 | BCM43 | enouf: nope |
| 17:55.37 | enouf | BCM43: whcich debian installler and release? |
| 17:55.46 | BCM43 | enouf: net install, lenny |
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| 17:55.49 | enouf | BCM43: is that an eeepc? |
| 17:55.56 | BCM43 | enouf: aspire one |
| 17:56.10 | enouf | i don't know - yes or no please |
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| 17:56.19 | BCM43 | no |
| 17:56.19 | bolder | i |
| 17:56.21 | enouf | is aspire one == eeepc version? |
| 17:56.22 | BCM43 | similar |
| 17:56.22 | bolder | hi |
| 17:56.24 | enouf | ok |
| 17:56.38 | tralala | no aspire is acer, eeepc is asus |
| 17:56.54 | enouf | oh |
| 17:56.58 | tralala | it still a linux netbook though |
| 17:57.01 | tralala | it's |
| 17:57.08 | BCM43 | came with xp pre installed |
| 17:57.14 | enouf | tralala: preinstalled OS? |
| 17:57.18 | enouf | oh, ok |
| 17:57.31 | enouf | bolder: xp still there? |
| 17:57.36 | enouf | erm BCM43 |
| 17:57.41 | bolder | no |
| 17:57.45 | enouf | not bolder - sorry |
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| 17:57.53 | BCM43 | enouf: no |
| 17:58.06 | lepine_w | good day peoples |
| 17:58.39 | lepine_w | what would be the best way to get php4 on lenny? |
| 17:58.54 | lepine_w | make src from etch? |
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| 17:59.05 | nareshov | varlon: should've got a window like this - http://www.linuxjournal.com/files/linuxjournal.com/linuxjournal/articles/092/9266/9266f09.png |
| 17:59.18 | s7itch3s | anyone have a link for the other debian sources.list. ie: non-free etc.. |
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| 17:59.26 | Reached | Hello #debian! |
| 17:59.32 | dtcrshr | anyone suggests a flowchart soft for gnome? |
| 17:59.34 | varlon | nareshov, thanks, I'll see now |
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| 17:59.58 | lepine_w | dtcrshr: thinking of freemind, but that's not gnome specific |
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| 18:00.07 | enouf | BCM43: ok - so, where are we? any other OSes installed? why hd0,0 hd0,1 and such? |
| 18:00.13 | nareshov | dtcrshr: dia? |
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| 18:00.30 | osfd | elik: I'm so back..! with a opensuse live CD...takes hours to boot..! |
| 18:00.54 | enouf | BCM43: have you tried those clock= and clocksource= boot params i sent you? |
| 18:00.57 | nareshov | dtcrshr: also, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mind_Mapping_software |
| 18:01.05 | BCM43 | enouf: no, did not see those |
| 18:01.12 | varlon | nareshov, thanks, it dialog soudn like "Removable Drivers and Media", but not "Preferred Applications". Thanks, I find what I want :-) |
| 18:01.15 | enouf | BCM43: http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.26/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt#L400 |
| 18:01.25 | enouf | BCM43: tsc == time stamp counter |
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| 18:01.38 | enouf | BCM43: you're in a VM? or ...? |
| 18:01.39 | lepine_w | sadly, there's no 'List Of List Pages' on wikipedia |
| 18:01.45 | dtcrshr | thanks! |
| 18:01.45 | nareshov | varlon: oops. cool :D |
| 18:01.46 | elik | osfd, lol |
| 18:01.56 | elik | osfd, you have 2 computers? |
| 18:02.00 | elik | or a dual boot? |
| 18:02.06 | BCM43 | enouf: right now it timed out waiting for root to load an i am in initramfs |
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| 18:02.45 | enouf | BCM43: well, either you're missing your HDD controller module or your FSType one - most likely .. |
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| 18:02.54 | osfd | elik: only one |
| 18:03.06 | Witch-King | so...any ideas on boot media? |
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| 18:03.29 | _abc_ | hello |
| 18:03.38 | bugjar | is there a way to default install etch? i thought maybe a netinstall 4.0 but then it dawned on me ( after I saw it installed 'stable/lenny' ) that it would install 'stable' :^\ |
| 18:03.56 | arvind_khadri | !hi |
| 18:03.56 | dpkg | hello, arvind_khadri |
| 18:04.06 | BCM43 | enouf: ok, the tech guy at my school is really into debian and linux in general, and might ask him to take a look at it, it might be easier if someone could see it directly, Thank you so much for your help. |
| 18:04.07 | elik | osfd, ah.. you got your debian partition mounted? |
| 18:04.16 | _abc_ | etch question: compiling qemu yields an unexpected compiler error, while using the etch qemu src package patched with the relevant etch diff: |
| 18:04.16 | enouf | BCM43: i think you need to find a way to reinstall Grub perhaps, install it into MBR - is there a hidden reconvery partition? How about BIOS mbr protection from write/virsu? |
| 18:04.19 | _abc_ | In file included from /usr/src/qemu-0.8.2/linux-user/syscall.c:65: |
| 18:04.19 | elik | arvind_khadri, wow.. you really have no friends :P |
| 18:04.22 | _abc_ | /usr/include/linux/dirent.h:5: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before âu64â |
| 18:04.25 | _abc_ | any ideas where to look ? |
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| 18:04.37 | cantoma | hey, if I start a process like "./my_program &" is it suppose to get independent from the shell that it created? This is because if I close the shell window it is still running in the memory!! |
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| 18:04.42 | lepine_w | what's the best way to get php4 on a lenny install? |
| 18:04.46 | enouf | BCM43: ok - good - hope you fix it, let me know please |
| 18:04.49 | arvind_khadri | elik, i wanted it to be piped to abc :) |
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| 18:05.01 | Federico2 | bye |
| 18:05.02 | BCM43 | enouf: will do |
| 18:05.32 | elik | !tell _abc_ hi |
| 18:05.46 | enouf | BCM43: send me a PM even, sometimes i hang/lurk, and am not at keys for hours, and miss somethings, even though my backscroll is 1000 lines |
| 18:05.57 | BCM43 | enouf: ok, thank you for your help |
| 18:05.59 | elik | !tell hi arvind_khadri |
| 18:06.01 | osfd | elik: so, what should I do ? |
| 18:06.03 | enouf | welcome |
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| 18:06.18 | enouf | jhamlin: how are you doing? |
| 18:06.20 | elik | arvind_khadri, bah, doesn't work :( |
| 18:06.39 | elik | osfd, is your debian partition mounted? |
| 18:06.42 | arvind_khadri | elik, :P the person who owns the code for bot should have the encyclopedia plugin enabled... |
| 18:06.45 | osfd | elik: yes |
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| 18:06.48 | BCM43 | enouf: for now i will just run puppy linux off a flash drive |
| 18:06.56 | arvind_khadri | elik, is it supybot by any chance? |
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| 18:07.11 | enouf | heh .. whatever - sure .. why not, heh |
| 18:07.31 | _abc_ | !tell elik don't do that anymore |
| 18:07.32 | elik | osfd, go in that partition, under /var/log (so something like /mnt/bleh/var/log) and dig some of those logs.. probably kern.log would be interesting for you |
| 18:07.33 | arejay | where does |
| 18:07.40 | arejay | Packages.gz get extracted to when u do apt-get update? |
| 18:07.45 | elik | _abc_, sorry _abc_ |
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| 18:08.05 | elik | arvind_khadri, sorry, I don't know the bot personnally |
| 18:08.18 | arvind_khadri | elik, thats ok :) |
| 18:08.36 | enouf | BCM43: might look at the various grml.org offerings - standard deb pkgs, loaded with build tools and such - even though only the Large (CD) version has build-essential IIRC |
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| 18:09.24 | dga | when i load the debian installer, i get the error: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC and the kernel refuses to load. is there some incompatibility with my hardware? |
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| 18:09.25 | enouf | arejay: install dlocate ; update-dlocatedb ; dlocate Packages.gz ;-) |
| 18:09.59 | pasky | Hi, does anyone have a pointer for canonical libpam-krb5 configuration for lenny? |
| 18:10.17 | pasky | After upgrade from etch to lenny, my PAM authentication stopped working when logging over ssh. |
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| 18:10.50 | abhinay | Hi |
| 18:11.13 | enouf | arejay: actually - i just failed ... |
| 18:12.08 | abhinay | I just installed debian 5, why there are no repositories in sources.list ? |
| 18:12.12 | wal3 | damjan: thx |
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| 18:12.43 | osfd | elik: can't paste it |
| 18:12.47 | arejay | enouf: i cant get apt-get to update, running debian on my g1 :) |
| 18:12.50 | elik | osfd, of course not :) |
| 18:12.52 | enouf | arejay: you likey want file:///var/lib/apt/lists/ |
| 18:13.01 | elik | osfd, you know about pastebins? |
| 18:13.06 | enouf | arejay: g1, as in old mac? |
| 18:13.10 | dtcrshr | Xmind its perfect for what i need |
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| 18:13.19 | arejay | arejay: are in HTC dream aka android |
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| 18:13.22 | arejay | i got it running |
| 18:13.24 | osfd | elik: can't paste it in a pastebin... |
| 18:13.25 | dtcrshr | thanks nareshov |
| 18:13.31 | elik | osfd, how come? |
| 18:13.36 | enouf | !htc |
| 18:13.36 | arejay | its running a armel processor |
| 18:13.40 | enouf | ok |
| 18:13.56 | enouf | which debian release? |
| 18:13.59 | elik | osfd, you have to get it on a pastebin somehow |
| 18:14.10 | elik | osfd, at this point, I'm probably not the best person to help you |
| 18:14.20 | arejay | ux |
| 18:14.20 | arejay | l |
| 18:14.35 | elik | osfd, so sending it only to me is a waste of your time.. while having it on a pastebin, anyone else can join in |
| 18:14.44 | elik | osfd, also, did you find any relevant info on there? |
| 18:14.46 | arejay | Linux localhost 2.6.25-01843-gfea26b0 #1 PREEMPT Sat Jan 24 21:06:15 CST 2009 armv6l GNU/Linux <-- debian running a tmobile g1/htc dream aka android |
| 18:14.48 | arejay | :) |
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| 18:15.13 | elik | osfd, in the worst worst case, I can paste it for you on pastebin... but normally, you sould be able to get it to work using middle click |
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| 18:16.04 | maligor | arejay, why would you want to install debian one one of those?-) |
| 18:16.16 | stoned | enouf, ping |
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| 18:16.27 | osfd | elik: ok, got it |
| 18:16.38 | enouf | stoned: yes |
| 18:16.38 | elik | osfd, great |
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| 18:16.53 | stoned | fw |
| 18:16.56 | stoned | pronto |
| 18:16.58 | arejay | maligor: why not, its already running linux :) why not debian! |
| 18:17.14 | enouf | arejay: i have no idea what that is, sorry |
| 18:17.31 | arejay | enouf: its the first phone to run googles os for phones, android |
| 18:17.32 | arejay | :) |
| 18:17.41 | arejay | its based on linux |
| 18:17.45 | arejay | and open-source too |
| 18:18.06 | arejay | got debian booting on it now, just having issues with apt-get etc |
| 18:18.08 | arejay | got network up |
| 18:18.11 | arejay | etc |
| 18:18.58 | maligor | expensive phone to poke around |
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| 18:19.46 | arejay | maligor: u can always "restore" :) |
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| 18:22.58 | Fox_1_ | hi all |
| 18:23.48 | Fox_1_ | people how to cut all IP addresses in 3 or 4 parts? |
| 18:24.28 | enouf | maligor: you said something about expensive? http://i.gizmodo.com/5161289/worlds-stupidest-most-expensive-iphone-mod-yet-costs-25-million-dollars |
| 18:25.38 | maligor | enouf, I wonder if that's a Approved Apple Value Added Retailer |
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| 18:26.31 | lo127 | in a server, is it possible to encrypt the harddrives so that they can be used as an samba/nfs share and if the power is lost the disk are automatically locked? |
| 18:27.12 | _abc_ | lo127: yes using a loop crypto fs |
| 18:27.28 | abrotman | Fox_1_: you'd have to give us an example, and you probably want #bash |
| 18:27.35 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:27.41 | enouf | maybe something like |
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| 18:28.17 | abrotman | stew: tomaw ^^^ extrapolate |
| 18:28.27 | nareshov | !ops |
| 18:28.27 | dpkg | it has been said that ops is Please invoke 'dpkg: ops $problem' to call the ops to deal with a specific problem. Misuse of this will lead to a ban. |
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| 18:28.45 | nareshov | oh, he left |
| 18:28.58 | lo127 | _abc_: looks really neet, have you tried it yourself? |
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| 18:29.26 | mrminz | Lo all do i really need the 64bit version of debian with a pentium d-dual core wit 2 gigs ram??? |
| 18:29.38 | osfd | elik: so you think about something ? |
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| 18:29.42 | _abc_ | lo127 not with samba but this is a standard issue in knoppix and others. it's just another automounted file system, that's all |
| 18:30.00 | sepski | mrminz, no |
| 18:30.06 | abrotman | mrminz: you can use i386 or amd64 |
| 18:30.07 | amartin83 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:30.29 | lepine_w | abrotman: but are there any benefits to running one or the other? |
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| 18:30.34 | pasky | it looks like libpam-krb5's account API is simply broken |
| 18:30.38 | lepine_w | (i'm in the same boat) |
| 18:30.39 | abrotman | lepine_w: yes, for each |
| 18:31.04 | lepine_w | mind making a very non-exhaustive list? |
| 18:31.15 | mrminz | Yeah but i heard that the 64 bit plugs, for example the adobe crap, is abit tricky atm |
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| 18:31.38 | abrotman | lepine_w: 32bit binary apps on 64bit systems can be a pain |
| 18:31.44 | lepine_w | mrminz: i can confirm, flash + 64bit was tricky on ubuntu |
| 18:31.57 | lepine_w | that was the only one though, everything else was flawless. |
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| 18:32.21 | lepine_w | abrotman: would you agree that for server purposes, you'll most likely not have problems of that type |
| 18:32.23 | lepine_w | > |
| 18:32.23 | lepine_w | ? |
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| 18:32.31 | abrotman | lepine_w: sure .. |
| 18:32.34 | mrminz | So 32 bit seems the best way arm for my sytem config atm? |
| 18:33.08 | SamiusPrime | yay I upgraded to lenny and all my wireless rt73 type stuff works great now |
| 18:33.21 | abrotman | amartin83: what kind of errors are you actually getting ? |
| 18:33.26 | abrotman | mrminz: it's probably the easiest |
| 18:33.33 | abrotman | best can be defined in too many ways |
| 18:34.03 | arejay | dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 56 package `debconf': |
| 18:34.03 | dpkg | You are moron #2, arejay |
| 18:34.05 | arejay | hrm |
| 18:34.16 | mrminz | Hmm yes but the speed difference..... |
| 18:34.34 | amartin83 | well tried this long time ago, but today need new one, so i asked for each step to go with someone. If now, i'll try go by myself until errors |
| 18:34.35 | abrotman | mrminz: for a desktop user .. it's negligable |
| 18:34.48 | abrotman | amartin83: well try it .. if it errors, show us the errors |
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| 18:34.58 | osfd | is crying |
| 18:35.02 | amartin83 | oki doki |
| 18:35.23 | mrminz | Ok thx for the info peeps gn8 |
| 18:35.31 | tralala | unless your running a mythtv backend or doing some other sort of video encoding/processing |
| 18:35.31 | themill | arejay: please pastebin the entire output including the command that generated it |
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| 18:35.35 | tralala | you're |
| 18:35.39 | amartin83 | abrotman, this will take some time, couse kompiling kernel as I remember is a long process |
| 18:35.50 | abrotman | amartin83: why are you compiling ? |
| 18:36.00 | abrotman | tralala: got benchmarks ? :) |
| 18:36.01 | arejay | themill: it was a simple dpkg -i of dev-nucurses.deb |
| 18:36.34 | Witch-King | sigh..so nobody can help me figure out how to get debian boot media working? |
| 18:36.49 | tralala | abrotman, 300% doing dv-to-mpeg with kino on etch |
| 18:37.01 | themill | arejay: I bet that wasn't the command. |
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| 18:37.40 | themill | And I probably don't want to know why you're installing packages with dpkg either, do I? |
| 18:37.52 | mjbunink | Hi all, I'm trying to open a remote screen session on login, Can someone tell me why the next command doesn't work? (no error message, just terminates terminsl) urxvtc -e ssh -f -l user 192.168.1.65 screen -D -R |
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| 18:38.27 | Toba | because ssh with a command doens't open a tty by default |
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| 18:39.10 | amartin83 | abrotman, need my intel card better performance, couse drivers are preety lasy, and in this new kernel is option to do better vga cards, it's called as i remember GEM |
| 18:39.19 | tralala | mjbunink, also opening a new screen session on login is not the best thing to do - you might want to try attaching to an existing one first |
| 18:39.31 | Toba | screen -dRR is preferable |
| 18:39.33 | abrotman | tralala: benchmarks .. not some random number you pick! |
| 18:39.45 | enouf | amartin83: gem http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_28#head-b957b19f6139b6bbbfabaf790bf643b1746985d6 |
| 18:39.51 | tralala | screen -d -R remote | |
| 18:40.00 | tralala | screen -d -R remote || screen -S remote |
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| 18:40.19 | mjbunink | Toba: ah... ok, will try that. |
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| 18:40.28 | tralala | abrotman, it's a benchmark of mpeg encoding with kino |
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| 18:40.36 | osfd | does anyone knows about kernel panic -- not syncing : no init found -- try passing init=option to kernel, please |
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| 18:40.59 | amartin83 | enouf, yes, that's why i need to compile new kernel |
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| 18:41.13 | Macjust | Hello, I use a virtual with xen, i have install debian lenny in my domU, i want use the quota system but when i modify my fstab and i reboot the hda isn't mounted how can i do ? |
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| 18:41.27 | mjbunink | tralala: Eeeh... remote? should remote ipadress go there? |
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| 18:41.44 | tralala | mjbunink, no, it's just an example for screen session name |
| 18:42.25 | amartin83 | enouf, couse there's this GEM |
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| 18:42.35 | tralala | mjbunink, this has to be your remote ssh command. Together with the -t option of ssh. And possibly -U (for session) if you want unicode terminal |
| 18:43.21 | enouf | amartin83: there's a .28 in sid now - not sure if GM support is there |
| 18:43.26 | mibb_ | does anyone have some resources/hints how to get 256 colour support working in urxvt? |
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| 18:43.53 | tralala | or to put it all together: ssh -t user@host "screen -U -d -R <name> || screen -U -S <name>" |
| 18:44.03 | amartin83 | enouf, i've got lenny |
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| 18:44.22 | osfd | shall I reinstall ? shall I pray ?? |
| 18:44.45 | tralala | osfd, do you get this error on boot? |
| 18:45.05 | osfd | tralala: yes |
| 18:45.10 | abrotman | tralala: i want *pictures* .. *graphs* |
| 18:45.19 | esteel | i'm using debian unstable and since my last update the gnome-networkmanager no longer recognices my lan card.. (is just displays "device not managed") but there is a eth0 in ifconfig |
| 18:45.38 | esteel | any idea how i can get network manager to work again? :) |
| 18:45.40 | abrotman | amartin83: there is a .28 in unstable |
| 18:45.45 | tralala | osfd, is your root parameter correct? |
| 18:45.45 | cantoma | osfd: did you have an alternate booting image during boot manager section? have you tried it? |
| 18:45.46 | mrjohns1 | Hi! I'm having some trouble with setting up quota. I have set up group quota with a soft and hard limit. But the group can't exceed the soft limit at all. it acts like an hard limit. Any tips? The partition is ext3 with grpquota mount option. repquota show correct soft and hard limit. |
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| 18:46.01 | enouf | amartin83: i'm not sure if a .28 has been backported to lenny-backports yet - i doubt it |
| 18:46.20 | tralala | abrotman, amd64: | |
| 18:46.26 | abrotman | heh |
| 18:46.27 | tralala | abrotman, i386: , |
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| 18:46.46 | amartin83 | enouf, no, it's not. Have backports in my repo, but nothin' about 2.6.28 is there |
| 18:46.51 | tralala | or better yet... |
| 18:46.58 | tralala | amd64: |||||||| |
| 18:47.01 | tralala | i386: ||| |
| 18:47.27 | abrotman | doesn't look like 300% to me ... |
| 18:47.31 | enouf | amartin83: keep your eye on http://packages.debian.org/lenny-backports/admin/ ;-) |
| 18:47.35 | mibb_ | is there a package for 256-colour support in urxvt ? |
| 18:47.49 | tralala | abrotman, don't get picky about the details |
| 18:47.55 | osfd | tralala: cantoma : no I don't have an alternate image, and I don't know about my root parameters, it happened after an aptitude upgrade... :( |
| 18:47.57 | abrotman | enouf: i don't think the kernel is under 'admin' |
| 18:48.05 | enouf | abrotman: it is, under sid/ |
| 18:48.11 | dga | when i load the debian installer, i get the error: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC and the kernel refuses to load. is there some incompatibility with my hardware? |
| 18:48.18 | abrotman | enouf: eww .. weird |
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| 18:48.43 | enouf | abrotman: heh - i never understood the subtopics/menus .. so meh |
| 18:48.51 | abrotman | i get some of them .. not that one |
| 18:49.03 | enouf | http://packages.debian.org/sid/admin/ |
| 18:49.06 | amartin83 | enouf, ok :-) but need the kernel now though |
| 18:49.08 | enouf | for ex |
| 18:49.39 | enouf | amartin83: well .. you might just want to d/l and install it, and try it - make sure you KEEP your working kernel |
| 18:49.40 | tralala | osfd, I get it you didn't follow the upgrade release notes |
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| 18:49.55 | osfd | tralala: that might be the problem... |
| 18:50.04 | tralala | that _is_ the problem |
| 18:50.10 | amartin83 | plus need to learn compiling kernel for my own hardware, couse it will be faster then |
| 18:50.11 | osfd | ,upgrade |
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| 18:50.42 | abrotman | amartin83: which intel video card do you have? |
| 18:50.42 | tralala | osfd, anyway - read them now and see the troubleshooting section. |
| 18:50.43 | osfd | tralala: ok, all my fault, I DO admit...am I F#$%ed ? |
| 18:50.51 | amartin83 | enouf, is sid with liveCD?? |
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| 18:51.08 | enouf | amartin83: what? |
| 18:51.13 | amartin83 | intel 945GM on toshiba, and intel 945GME on msi wind |
| 18:51.23 | tralala | osfd, well, you're in trouble but you might be able to fix what's broken without a reinstall. |
| 18:51.38 | abrotman | amartin83: i don't think the new stuff will really impact you .. that's an older card |
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| 18:51.38 | amartin83 | enouf, guess debian never comes with liveCD |
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| 18:51.45 | enouf | amartin83: which arch? just grab the correct linux-image-2.6.28-xxxxx and dpkg -i it |
| 18:51.45 | osfd | tralala: where are these upgrade note ? |
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| 18:51.57 | enouf | amartin83: /msg dpkg live |
| 18:52.04 | tralala | osfd, a few clicks away from the very front page of debian.org |
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| 18:52.41 | enouf | amartin83: #intel-gfx on freenode.net might know more about in kernel (vanilla atleast) support |
| 18:52.51 | amartin83 | enouf, this laptop was bought 1,5 year ago |
| 18:52.52 | enouf | amartin83: read the debian changelogs |
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| 18:52.58 | enouf | who cares |
| 18:53.14 | lepine_w | sorry to ask again, but how would you get php4 installed on lenny? |
| 18:53.31 | amartin83 | enouf, been already there, more people have the same even with other chips |
| 18:53.36 | lepine_w | from etch src? from php src + apache2 dev? |
| 18:53.38 | tralala | lepine_w, by building it from source. php4 is not supported anymore |
| 18:53.51 | cantoma | osfd: what ever you have upgrade .. is not clear .. what it happen. Maybe try to access the PC using a LiveCD and somehow try to get all the boot messages |
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| 18:54.38 | enouf | amartin83: same what? |
| 18:54.51 | dga | can someone explain to me what 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC means? i really want to install debian on my system. |
| 18:55.05 | osfd | cantoma: I'm in right now...I mean in a live session |
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| 18:55.27 | enouf | dga: your BIOS sucks likely - try kernel boot params, see the clock= and clocksource= opptions |
| 18:55.41 | enouf | dga: try noapic boot option |
| 18:56.02 | dga | enouf: but then io-apic won't work |
| 18:56.03 | enouf | dga: boot usinf BOOT_DEBUG=3 even , see Installation guide |
| 18:56.06 | amartin83 | enouf, on this channel intel-gfx, I'm there for 2 days now, and people there has the same issue |
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| 18:56.09 | enouf | no kidding |
| 18:56.13 | cantoma | osfd: can you get the full boot message? |
| 18:56.40 | enouf | dga: once installed, you night be able to fix/investigate further |
| 18:56.47 | dga | enouf: ok |
| 18:56.48 | enouf | s/might/ |
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| 18:56.52 | vn0 | [notice] child pid 2928 exit signal Segmentation fault (11) <=== when visiting my pic gallery, since the dist-upgrade...what can I do? thats in the apache's error.log |
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| 18:56.54 | amartin83 | so they said, get a new kernel. Many of them just did it. Didn't help. But i need to try that |
| 18:57.00 | enouf | dga: check alt-f4 for console messages |
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| 18:57.10 | osfd | cantoma: where can I find that ? |
| 18:57.23 | dga | will do |
| 18:57.31 | enouf | vn0: that's a memory issue |
| 18:57.37 | tralala | osfd, paste the output of "ls /dev/disk/by-id/" to http://rafb.net/paste |
| 18:57.41 | amartin83 | enouf, what's with /msg live?? |
| 18:57.41 | enouf | !sig11 |
| 18:57.41 | dpkg | i guess sig11 is Process Signal 11, SEGV (Segment Violation or Segmentation Fault). The program has been smacked down by the kernel for accessing memory outside its segment; indicates a bug in the software, or, with memory-intensive software like gcc, may indicate failing RAM. See the Sig11 FAQ at http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/ |
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| 18:57.49 | tralala | osfd, make this ls -l |
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| 18:59.04 | mib_nl2167q5 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:59.28 | caotic | hey can apt install local stored deb files ? not actuallly hosted in repositories = |
| 18:59.29 | mib_nl2167q5 | only need 3 more clicks though.. |
| 18:59.29 | abhinay | what is unmuting alsa , how can i do that? |
| 18:59.39 | osfd | tralala: http://rafb.net/p/26BCwp11.html |
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| 19:00.03 | tralala | osfd, ls -l please |
| 19:00.13 | mib_nl2167q5 | Daaaamnn ONE more click PLLEEEAAASE:D:D:D:D Sry guys.... really. http://www.ihateyounatalie.com/?id=1231632 |
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| 19:00.27 | osfd | cantoma: in /media/sda4/var/log/ I have a bunch of files |
| 19:00.33 | osfd | tralala: where ? |
| 19:00.44 | tralala | osfd, same command but with -l |
| 19:00.44 | cantoma | osfd: and? |
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| 19:01.33 | cantoma | osfd: i just checked using my console there is a /var/log/dmesg .. don't you have the same? |
| 19:01.38 | osfd | cantoma: http://rafb.net/p/0w3ZuZ64.html and the boot one is empty |
| 19:01.41 | jdavis | On one of my debian machines, it won't let normal user programs listen on a socket. What security settings control that? |
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| 19:02.46 | mentor | jdavis, SELinux? |
| 19:03.02 | jdavis | mentor: I don't think that's enabled though, how do I check? |
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| 19:03.29 | jdavis | mentor: I don't have the commands "setenforce" or "getenforce" |
| 19:03.42 | mentor | jdavis, I don't actually know, thinking about it |
| 19:03.52 | osfd | cantoma: http://rafb.net/p/XrsAn615.html |
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| 19:04.16 | mentor | jdavis, Could also be one of the net capabilities |
| 19:04.23 | jdavis | mentor: ok, looking. |
| 19:04.35 | lepine_w | to build stuff against apache, do i need to install it from source? or just install the dev package? |
| 19:04.40 | enouf | caotic: add your user to adm group for easier log reading/searching |
| 19:04.48 | enouf | caotic: /msg dpkg groups |
| 19:04.56 | jdavis | mentor: where are the net capabilities configured? |
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| 19:05.23 | enouf | jdavis: that's acl? or selinux? |
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| 19:05.32 | tralala | osfd, so what are your /boot and / partitions? |
| 19:05.40 | mentor | Also no idea, the only thing I know about them is seeing them being checked in kernel code. CAP_NET_foo |
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| 19:05.59 | enouf | grep -i selinux /var/log/dmesg jdavis |
| 19:06.06 | osfd | tralala: defaults one... |
| 19:06.10 | enouf | there are selinux pkgs |
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| 19:06.26 | tralala | osfd, there are not defaults |
| 19:06.42 | cantoma | osfd: seem there is no kernel panic there?! |
| 19:07.17 | osfd | tralala: ok, so I did not configure anything like that....I said to the installer.../dev/sda4 is / and that's it |
| 19:07.45 | tralala | osfd, to the installer? Didn't you say you upgraded? |
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| 19:08.37 | osfd | tralala: no, I said aptitude upgrade NOT dist-upgrade..! |
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| 19:09.30 | tralala | osfd, let me see your /boot/grub/menu.lst and /etc/fstab from sda4 |
| 19:09.37 | jdavis | enouf: "Disabled at boot" |
| 19:09.46 | jdavis | enouf: so I guess it's not SELinux |
| 19:09.56 | enouf | ok, so - right jdavis |
| 19:10.04 | enouf | so what's your issue? |
| 19:10.19 | enouf | i missed it |
| 19:10.45 | simonrvn | !fuck mibbit abusers |
| 19:10.51 | jdavis | enouf: if a normal program tries to listen on a socket, it's refused. |
| 19:11.03 | enouf | what? |
| 19:11.08 | enouf | be specific |
| 19:11.12 | enouf | use lsof |
| 19:11.17 | jdavis | enouf: "cannot assign requested address", like if I try to start postgresql. It happens even if I try to change the port |
| 19:11.39 | simonrvn | what user are you trying to run it as? |
| 19:11.52 | enouf | jdavis: ports/scokets 0-1024 are reserved for root |
| 19:12.13 | jdavis | enouf: I tried with 5432 and 54333, and neither work. |
| 19:12.29 | enouf | jdavis: so, your config is broke |
| 19:12.32 | osfd | tralala: http://rafb.net/p/zmAvqK29.html |
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| 19:12.37 | jdavis | enouf: what config? |
| 19:12.37 | benley | wtf do I need to do to get a debian system to mount /dev/pts at boot? |
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| 19:12.51 | enouf | jdavis: your postgresql one |
| 19:12.56 | benley | oh wait I suck. The udev package isn't installed. |
| 19:13.08 | enouf | !smack benf2004 |
| 19:13.08 | dpkg | smacks benf2004 upside the head. |
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| 19:13.13 | enouf | oops |
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| 19:13.15 | jdavis | enouf: even if I try with netcat, like "netcat -l -p 50000 -w 1 localhost" it fails |
| 19:13.18 | enouf | !smack benley |
| 19:13.19 | dpkg | smacks benley upside the head. |
| 19:13.29 | enouf | sorry benf2004 |
| 19:13.52 | enouf | jdavis: how;s your route? |
| 19:14.00 | enouf | default gw |
| 19:14.25 | osfd | tralala: http://rafb.net/p/hBV0Tx72.html |
| 19:14.27 | tralala | osfd, good, I'd also like to see ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/ |
| 19:14.59 | tralala | osfd, this doesn't look like sda4's fstab |
| 19:15.13 | tralala | osfd, I'll be back soon |
| 19:15.13 | jdavis | enouf: oh, you're right! Somehow a default route got in there. |
| 19:15.38 | lepine_w | can anyone point to some links about locking down debian? |
| 19:15.38 | jdavis | enouf: it says "default some.domain 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0" |
| 19:15.48 | osfd | tralala: http://rafb.net/p/gCnb7G22.html |
| 19:16.13 | jdavis | enouf: oh, wait, maybe I need a route for 127.0.0.1? |
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| 19:17.01 | enouf | jdavis: http://pastebin.ca/raw/1351196 |
| 19:17.10 | enouf | jdavis: /msg dpkg interfaces |
| 19:17.18 | enouf | jdavis: /msg dpkg resolv.conf |
| 19:17.18 | ma3x | how can i see the name of the key (on the keyboard) for example i can see it's key 132 but what's its name? (for example Prior, or Next) ...... ? |
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| 19:17.54 | enouf | ma3x: xmodmap -pk |
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| 19:18.53 | enouf | !keymap |
| 19:18.53 | dpkg | To change your console keymap, run "dpkg-reconfigure console-data". To change your X keymap, read "man xmodmap", or ask me about <set up x> or <drxx> or use kcontrol, gnome-control-center or similar. For setting up X keymaps, also check out xkeycaps and xev, or ask me about <multimedia keys>. In console you can also use "loadkeys" for once-only/temporary adjustments. |
| 19:19.32 | jdavis | enouf: ok, it works now. It was as simple as "ifconfig lo up". Thanks for your help! |
| 19:19.42 | vn0 | enouf: tried the thing I had in mind for my segfault, didnt work...nothing special in syslog, in dmesg...only in apache's error.log, any ideas? |
| 19:20.05 | enouf | jdavis: yes, /sbin/ifconfig -a ; ls /sys/class/net |
| 19:20.13 | _abc_ | which one of you was able to compile qemu on debian ? which versions ? (debian, gcc, qemu) ? |
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| 19:20.28 | _abc_ | compiling means getting the debian qemu source and patch |
| 19:20.34 | _abc_ | and compiling that |
| 19:20.44 | arezey | !wayc _abc_ |
| 19:20.45 | dpkg | _abc_: Why are you compiling instead of using aptitude? |
| 19:20.49 | enouf | vn0: maybe apache memory is set to a limited amount |
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| 19:21.06 | _abc_ | dpkg: answering a question with a question: 2000 black points |
| 19:21.06 | dpkg | _abc_: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 19:21.19 | jdavis | enouf: cool, it looks good now. Thanks again. |
| 19:21.28 | enouf | jdavis: welcome |
| 19:21.31 | _abc_ | answering it twice: add 8000 black points |
| 19:21.35 | tralala | osfd, okay it's good so far. Now I'd like to see the fstab again. Make sure you take the one from sda4 |
| 19:21.48 | vn0 | enouf: k, gotta check it, but idk why it'd do that after a dist-upgrade |
| 19:21.52 | _abc_ | again: which one of you was able to compile qemu on debian ? which versions ? (debian, gcc, qemu) ? |
| 19:21.55 | enouf | jdavis: /msg dpkg 70 (for more info) |
| 19:22.32 | osfd | tralala: it is... |
| 19:22.41 | enouf | vn0: because users suck sometimes? i don't know |
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| 19:23.23 | osfd | tralala: sorry http://rafb.net/p/Tmz2hp19.html |
| 19:23.32 | jdavis | enouf: so what kinds of queries does the "dpkg" bot accept? what does the "70" mean? |
| 19:23.37 | jdavis | just curious |
| 19:23.48 | enouf | !70 |
| 19:23.49 | dpkg | As of version 0.090, udev has the ability to statically rename ethernet cards based on MAC address. The addresses are configured in /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules . If you want the mappings to change, edit that file. See <forcedeth mac>. As of version 0.124-1 the file is called /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules . |
| 19:24.10 | enouf | !+tell jdavis -about msgthebot |
| 19:24.11 | dpkg | told jdavis about msgthebot. |
| 19:24.40 | jdavis | enouf: thanks ;) |
| 19:24.47 | enouf | jdavis: np |
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| 19:25.00 | tralala | osfd, do you have /sbin/init on sda4? |
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| 19:25.40 | JPT | what's the name of the checkdisk command ?... i cannot find it |
| 19:25.48 | osfd | tralala: yes |
| 19:26.04 | enouf | JPT: fsck? |
| 19:26.06 | JPT | aah |
| 19:26.21 | lepine_w | can someone point to a decent how to about compiling packages against debian packages? i'm trying to get php4 working on lenny |
| 19:26.21 | enouf | JPT: chkdsk you meant? |
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| 19:26.32 | JPT | i was just searching for fsck |
| 19:26.38 | JPT | too short to remember... *g* |
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| 19:26.45 | enouf | JPT: the'ye in /sbin |
| 19:27.07 | JPT | i just needed the name in order to check one of my hdds here... |
| 19:27.08 | JPT | ;) |
| 19:27.16 | enouf | JPT: use 'tough /forcefsck' to check / on reboot |
| 19:27.23 | enouf | er |
| 19:27.31 | enouf | JPT: use 'touch /forcefsck' ... |
| 19:27.47 | JPT | err...it's a bit more difficult than that |
| 19:27.56 | enouf | make sure /etc/fstab has 1 for last field, and all other partitions havee 0 or 2 |
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| 19:28.31 | tralala | osfd, replace /dev/sda4 in your fstab with /dev/disk/by-uuid/3ec11cb1-23b0-4b1d-a1a4-a01c21f20aff |
| 19:28.39 | tralala | osfd, and try booting again |
| 19:28.50 | JPT | the hdd i'm checking is unable to boot up... also there are some mysterious noise... so i just want to check if i'm told the truth about the bad superblock |
| 19:28.55 | enouf | tralala: only need UUID=xxxxxxx |
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| 19:29.12 | tralala | enouf, in fstab? |
| 19:29.43 | tralala | yeah, ok |
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| 19:29.56 | tralala | osfd, so put UUID=3ec11cb1-23b0-4b1d-a1a4-a01c21f20aff instead of /dev/sda4 |
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| 19:31.05 | osfd | tralala: enouf : that will do the trick O_o |
| 19:31.10 | enouf | tralala: right - menu.lst needs root=UUID=xxxxx |
| 19:31.32 | tralala | yeah, menu.lst is okay |
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| 19:31.48 | tralala | osfd, hopefully. Go ahead and try it. |
| 19:32.05 | osfd | tralala: enouf : thank you guys....TTYS |
| 19:33.32 | enouf | JPT: run HDD manufacuturer diag tools on it too - smartmontools maybe |
| 19:33.56 | JPT | the hdd is from september 2001... |
| 19:34.00 | JPT | *g* |
| 19:34.11 | enouf | JPT: bad RAID/mdadm superblock is different |
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| 19:34.27 | enouf | JPT: this one is from 1999 |
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| 19:34.44 | ma3x | enouf: where do you suggest exporting xmodmap commands? in .bashrc? |
| 19:34.45 | tralala | JPT, then you might try smashing a jet into it ;) |
| 19:34.54 | JPT | i can try a lot of things.. |
| 19:34.56 | Younix | i smashed a jet into my dog |
| 19:35.02 | enouf | JPT: and it's a remanu one |
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| 19:35.27 | tralala | Younix, does your dog still loves you? |
| 19:35.27 | enouf | ma3x: ~/.xmodmap perhaps - |
| 19:35.34 | enouf | ma3x: or gnome? |
| 19:35.38 | ma3x | enouf: kde |
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| 19:35.42 | Younix | tralala: we're married |
| 19:36.12 | enouf | Kmenu > System Admin > Paths > Autostart ? |
| 19:36.54 | bbelt16ag | can somebody help me with my .bashrc prompt please |
| 19:36.58 | bbelt16ag | http://my-openbox.pastebin.com/m503e827e |
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| 19:37.11 | tralala | bbelt16ag, #bash |
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| 19:37.31 | bbelt16ag | .. opp i joined it on the wrong account hehe |
| 19:37.59 | Younix | chuckles |
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| 19:39.51 | MisterMike | is Xandros a debian re-spin? |
| 19:39.55 | bbelt16ag | ok ghost town overe there.. i think they all got jobs.. |
| 19:40.04 | qsi | using iostat, is there a way to reset the counters before issuing 'iostat' ? This way I would have results from the moment of issuing the command, ... If I want to know the current status I need to do a "iostat 1 2" which will results in 2 reports, the first one being average since systemboot and the second one, the results from that moment. |
| 19:40.09 | tralala | MisterMike, debian based |
| 19:40.10 | enouf | ma3x: kmenu > k control center .... |
| 19:40.18 | ma3x | enouf: and then? |
| 19:40.27 | enouf | or just kcontrol from an xterm ma3x |
| 19:40.32 | ma3x | enouf: i want to replace left ctrl with fn |
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| 19:40.49 | enouf | ma3x: you place a script in ~/.kde/Autostart |
| 19:40.53 | ma3x | enouf: but fn = keycode 227 and when i do xmodmap -pk 227 is not set, it has blank entry |
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| 19:41.15 | ma3x | enouf: so how can i set 227 to be 34 and 34 to be 227 |
| 19:41.22 | enouf | ma3x: well, you might do that in xorg.conf instead -- or ... one sec |
| 19:41.28 | ma3x | ok |
| 19:43.19 | enouf | ma3x: http://cweiske.de/howto/xmodmap/allinone.html |
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| 19:44.04 | gmap | i have a thinclient that doesnt have a cd-rom but does have usb and ethernet connections. How can I install debian on it? |
| 19:44.15 | Witch-King | question about grub: i have XP on a different RAID volume than the disk i am installing on. if i install to the MBR of the disk i am installing on, and i tell my BIOS to directly boot the raid volume (as it is now) it will work the same, right? |
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| 19:45.03 | ma3x | enouf: but when i type xmodmap -pke it shows keycode 227 = |
| 19:45.05 | ma3x | it has no value |
| 19:45.18 | JPT | okay... the harddisk itself seems to be alright, i can even mount it and view all the data... so what is the superblock for and how can i fix it ? |
| 19:45.28 | ma3x | so if i put ctrl on its place, where will i put 227 (fn key)? |
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| 19:47.58 | enouf | ma3x: no idea - but for console, see file:///etc/console-tools/remap |
| 19:48.04 | lepine_w | where is apache's apxs2 file? |
| 19:48.26 | enouf | ma3x: this is all i know http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Keyboard-and-Console-HOWTO.html |
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| 19:48.35 | enouf | else* |
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| 19:50.04 | Hydroxide | nods |
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| 19:51.32 | _Maru_ | -NickSver/#debian- This nickname is registered. Please choose a different nickname, or identify via /msg NickSver identify <password>. |
| 19:51.32 | _Maru_ | -NickSver/#debian- If you fail to complete this command within 15 seconds, I will disconnect you. |
| 19:51.36 | _Maru_ | wtf is up with that? |
| 19:51.46 | JPT | spam |
| 19:51.52 | JPT | and/or phishing |
| 19:51.55 | Hydroxide | _Maru_: an IRC phishing attack |
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| 19:52.02 | Hydroxide | _Maru_: he got killed for a reason |
| 19:52.03 | cahoot | someone harvesting nicks? |
| 19:52.08 | Hydroxide | presumably |
| 19:52.17 | _Maru_ | i see lol |
| 19:52.31 | Hydroxide | quite clever, but totally malicious |
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| 19:52.50 | _Maru_ | wonder how many ppl msgged him |
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| 19:53.10 | Hydroxide | I expect that freenode staff are trying to figure that out now, if they haven't already |
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| 19:53.49 | Outlaw | people should get used to /nickserv instead of /msg nickserv |
| 19:54.07 | enouf | even /ns |
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| 19:54.33 | Brusca | im having trouble to configure GRUB correctly. Ivd got 3hd's 1 for Debian and 2 for windows (soft raid-0). But by pressing (hd<TAB>) GRUB only recognizes 2 drives.. hd(0,0) as my Debian drive and hd(1,0) as windows drive. Booting Windows works, but I cant boot Debian yet:(. I tried different root=/dev/sdxx options but am getting the error message: cannot open root device "..." or unknown block (0,0). |
| 19:54.43 | _Maru_ | good to know ty |
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| 19:54.52 | elik | Outlaw, enouf, but when you login, it says /msg nickserv |
| 19:55.00 | elik | so it's hard for ppl to know |
| 19:55.14 | Outlaw | didn't know /ns was an alias - thanks |
| 19:55.25 | Hydroxide | I didn't know about /ns or /nickserv |
| 19:55.40 | Hydroxide | elik: yeah, it's easy to miss that his nick was slightly different than nickserv, or that it was sent to #debian |
| 19:55.45 | _Maru_ | lol i don't feel as noob now haha |
| 19:55.55 | Mikaze | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:55.59 | elik | Hydroxide, sure is, didn't pick it up in the first place |
| 19:56.02 | rey | is virtualization working fine on debian? |
| 19:56.12 | Hydroxide | rey: in general, yes |
| 19:56.18 | rey | hm |
| 19:56.35 | rey | I've problems with hardware raid controller maintaining vm's |
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| 19:56.44 | Hydroxide | what do you mean? |
| 19:56.49 | Mikaze | irssi doesn't have an /ns alias unless you make it yourself. |
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| 19:57.47 | netsrot | Hi, how do I list rcscripts from terminal? |
| 19:57.53 | rey | Hydroxide: debian + openvz = kernel panic |
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| 19:58.31 | enouf | Brusca: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Installing-GRUB-natively.html |
| 19:59.02 | Mikaze | netsrot: less <filename> |
| 19:59.10 | netsrot | grr |
| 19:59.34 | rey | Hydroxide: server is working normaly until load will increase to high level, next step is a kernel panic |
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| 19:59.43 | netsrot | I mean a list that shows scripts that runs at which runlevels |
| 19:59.45 | JPT | http://nopaste.info/8cf6f5afa3.html <-- i need some advice on how to go on ... :) |
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| 20:00.45 | Brusca | ty |
| 20:00.47 | Mikaze | netsrot: ls -l /etc/rc#.d/* (where # is the runlevel) |
| 20:01.00 | rey | Hydroxide: it's like a crap, you don't know when it catch you, nasty thing ahh |
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| 20:02.13 | Mikaze | netsrot: There are also the /etc/rcS.d scripts for single-user mode. Read the README file in those dirs for more info. |
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| 20:02.35 | Hydroxide | rey: could be a bug in the hardware raid card, the firmware, the driver, openvz... lots of possibilities. I've never used that particular virtualization solution |
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| 20:03.17 | rey | Hydroxide: it's a Intel® RAID Controller SRCSASRB (8 internal SAS/SATA ports) |
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| 20:03.29 | enouf | netsrot: use /msg dpkg rcconf - or ... ~$ find /etc/rcS.d/ /etc/rc2.d/ | grep 'S' |
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| 20:03.38 | Hydroxide | rey: the only time I've used hardware raid was also not on Linux, so I don't have relevant experience either unfortunately. |
| 20:03.43 | rey | Hydroxide: yea, it could be a bug, but situation seems to happen on other machines |
| 20:03.45 | simonrvn | Hydroxide: whoah, hi :) |
| 20:03.54 | rey | Hydroxide: ok, I understand |
| 20:03.55 | Hydroxide | simonrvn: wow, haven't seen you in a while. hi :) |
| 20:04.06 | simonrvn | how you been? |
| 20:04.19 | Hydroxide | fine. let's move the "hi how are you" to /msg? |
| 20:04.23 | netsrot | I was looking for something like chkconfig --list |
| 20:04.26 | rey | Hydroxide: but I thought that it's a internal debian problem, maintaining openvz virtualization, if not then great |
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| 20:04.56 | Hydroxide | rey: if it's a problem that affects Debian, it likely affects other distributions of Linux too |
| 20:05.30 | xingu | rey: debugging tools are pretty good these days; you need to start with the panic message itself |
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| 20:07.06 | xingu | rey: http://kerneltrap.org/node/3648 |
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| 20:08.26 | rey | xingu: thx, will try it |
| 20:08.30 | nanonyme | Is there a way to force reinstall on a package and all its dependencies? |
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| 20:08.41 | nanonyme | (Recursively) |
| 20:08.44 | xingu | rey: there's even better stuff since then, that article's pretty antique |
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| 20:09.04 | xingu | rey: point being that the oops/panic tells us to a given line of source what failed. |
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| 20:09.24 | xingu | rey: if you're not able to debug or hit brick walls - report to linux-kernel mailinglist. |
| 20:10.16 | rey | ok, i understandd |
| 20:10.45 | enouf | nanonyme: eliminate some possible false positives ~$ find /etc/rc{S,2}.d/ | grep 'S*' | grep -v K | wc -l |
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| 20:11.21 | enouf | naturally remove the | wc -l |
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| 20:14.26 | nanonyme | enouf: I mostly want to reinstall everything related to xorg so I can be sure I get no ABI problems while compiling drivers. |
| 20:14.36 | nanonyme | Seems there's some garbage on my system that causes that. |
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| 20:15.16 | Witch-King | can anyone tell me how i can figure out what graphics driver i need for an ATI Radeon HD 3850? |
| 20:15.45 | nanonyme | Depends on whether you want 3D acceleration or not. ;) |
| 20:15.57 | enouf | nanonyme: sorry, wrong nick - bad tab |
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| 20:16.32 | nanonyme | Possibly installing all xorg-dev and recursively all the dependency -dev packages should be enough. |
| 20:16.37 | nanonyme | s/all // |
| 20:16.45 | Witch-King | nanonyme, yes..i'd like 3daccel. :D |
| 20:16.56 | enouf | !remove X |
| 20:16.56 | dpkg | i guess remove x is "aptitude remove x11-common" will remove X. use "purge" instead of remove if you want it to also remove X's configuration. |
| 20:17.02 | nanonyme | Witch-King: Then your only choice is the proprietary fglrx. |
| 20:17.06 | enouf | !remove Xorg |
| 20:17.16 | enouf | !install Xorg |
| 20:17.16 | dpkg | To install X in etch or later "aptitude install xorg", you may also want to install a window manager or ask me about <install gnome>, <install kde>, <install xfce> or <install fluxbox>. To reconfigure your X server, ask me about <drxx>. |
| 20:17.28 | Witch-King | oh, it is, nanonyme? i thought the opensouce one supported 3d, but wasn't sure if i could use it or not |
| 20:17.46 | enouf | !radeon vs radeonhd |
| 20:17.46 | dpkg | <radeon> project started under non-disclosure agreement with ATI to develop <free software> drivers for Radeon graphics cards. In 2007, after ATI released its documentation, second project, <radeonhd> started (from scratch) with focus on newer hardware. Differences and similarities can be found at: http://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature |
| 20:17.52 | nanonyme | Witch-King: False. Not for that card. They only just got accelerated 2D for your card and even that isn't in any release. |
| 20:17.56 | gmap | can I use a MicroSD Flash Card Reader (like this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134496) to run debian? |
| 20:17.57 | netsrot | is it ok just to install chkconfig or will it be problems with update-rc.d? |
| 20:18.08 | enouf | !chkconfig |
| 20:18.14 | enouf | !checkconfig |
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| 20:18.19 | enouf | gah |
| 20:18.26 | netsrot | pwned =) |
| 20:18.47 | netsrot | thanks for trying anyhow. |
| 20:18.50 | enouf | !chkinstall |
| 20:18.56 | enouf | !checkinstall |
| 20:18.56 | dpkg | well, checkinstall is a program that tracks all files installed by "make install" (or equivalent), creates a Debian (or other) Package with those files, and adds it to the installed packages database, allowing for easy package removal or distribution. http://asic-linux.com.mx/~izto/checkinstall/ | Not in etch because of bug #281823 http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=57724#57724 Ask me about <stow>. |
| 20:19.02 | enouf | BINGO BOZO |
| 20:19.10 | netsrot | thats not the same program |
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| 20:19.34 | enouf | no shit - and chkconfig is some DeadCrap piece of crap |
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| 20:19.53 | abrotman | enouf: that was sad ... |
| 20:20.19 | netsrot | enouf: why? |
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| 20:21.16 | netsrot | it should show me a pretty list like I want, if it works with update-rc.d? |
| 20:21.55 | Mikaze | Pretty? |
| 20:22.10 | netsrot | yes very sexy =) |
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| 20:24.33 | nanonyme | headdesks |
| 20:24.53 | nanonyme | Already managed to re-install all xorg-dev deps, still ABI mismatch |
| 20:24.56 | nanonyme | What gives? |
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| 20:31.00 | netsrot | Mikaze: don't you like chkconfig? |
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| 20:35.15 | lxsameer | is there any channel for debian installer? |
| 20:35.47 | nkuttler | lxsameer: #debian-boot on oftc |
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| 20:36.19 | nkuttler | lxsameer: although you may want to ask here before |
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| 20:37.45 | foetus | i have compiled kde 3.5.7, he is working very fast -- all stable, except kicker is crashing sometimes. I have heard about an kicker-crash-patch. From where i can download this patch? |
| 20:38.12 | lxsameer | ok i try to compile debian installer . i add my normal debian repo in sources.list.udeb.local , but when i try make build_cdrom_isolinux , i get an error about missing acpi module |
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| 20:41.12 | lxsameer | here is the error that i talk about http://pastebin.com/m266f9436 |
| 20:42.02 | netsrot | I don't understand how somebody can not love chkconfig =) |
| 20:42.22 | Witch-King | anyone know of a good way to test or benchmark video? |
| 20:42.45 | netsrot | Witch-King: glxgears |
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| 20:43.22 | netsrot | Witch-King: or do you mean like mplayer stuff? |
| 20:43.26 | Witch-King | uh, where can i find that netsrot |
| 20:43.34 | Witch-King | nah not mplayer |
| 20:43.54 | craigevil | mesa-utils has glxgears/glxinfo |
| 20:43.57 | Witch-King | hmm, i suppose i could get gltron |
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| 20:46.14 | abrotman | netsrot: that is not a benchmark |
| 20:46.15 | abrotman | in anyway |
| 20:46.20 | abrotman | erm .. any way |
| 20:46.39 | netsrot | which? |
| 20:46.48 | nanonyme | glxgears |
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| 20:47.18 | nanonyme | And no, it's not. Mplayer has a builtin benchmark for video in any case. |
| 20:47.22 | netsrot | what do you call a benchmark then? |
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| 20:47.42 | nanonyme | (If we're talking about 2D. There aren't really good 3D benchmarks for Linux) |
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| 20:48.05 | netsrot | how about lightsmark? |
| 20:48.45 | nanonyme | netsrot: Well, right. I might be going for overkill by my definition of good. It's probably fine. |
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| 20:49.38 | netsrot | Witch-King: you can try http://dee.cz/lightsmark/ as it might be better the glxgears =) |
| 20:50.43 | netsrot | s/the/then/ |
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| 20:52.16 | PsychedelicSquid | Hello, #debian. If you don't mind, I have a quick question for your collective brain. That being, can the minimal installer (Tiny CD/Floppy/USB variety) connect via a USB wireless adapter using the rt73 module without any extra steps, or will I need to take extra steps. (Sorry for the long post) |
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| 20:52.49 | abrotman | PsychedelicSquid: not by default .. needs firmware i believe |
| 20:53.12 | abrotman | netsrot: vi is a better benchmark than glxgears :) |
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| 20:53.49 | maligor | E492: Not an editor command: benchmark |
| 20:53.52 | PsychedelicSquid | abrotman: Firmware? I thought the module deals with that automatically. |
| 20:54.00 | abrotman | !rt73 |
| 20:54.00 | dpkg | The Ralink RT73 USB chipset (RT2501USB/RT2571W) is supported by the enhanced legacy driver (rt73) and next-generation driver (rt73usb), both available from the <rt2x00> project. Firmware is required to be loaded before driver operation. See http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/rt73 for driver and firmware installation instructions. See also <ralink firmware>, <rt2x00>. |
| 20:54.19 | abrotman | now .. you could use the netinst and a script that grabs firmware |
| 20:54.51 | nanonyme | netsrot: Personally I'd want the benchmarking tool to use FBO's. Not sure if Lightsmark does. |
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| 20:55.38 | netsrot | nanonyme: whats FBO's? |
| 20:56.06 | netsrot | frequently bouncing objects? =) |
| 20:56.12 | Witch-King | does anyone know of a first person shooter package i could try? |
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| 20:56.51 | nanonyme | netsrot: Framebuffer objects. OpenGL extensions, used for acceleration in new games. |
| 20:56.58 | PsychedelicSquid | abrotman: How would I go about including the packages into a customised minimal installer? Assuming, of course that there is a way to customise it. |
| 20:57.10 | abrotman | !firmware installer |
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| 20:57.16 | abrotman | uhm ... |
| 20:57.18 | netsrot | Witch-King: urbanterror is now free |
| 20:57.27 | abrotman | !installer firmware |
| 20:57.28 | dpkg | The Lenny installer is able to load extra (non-free) firmware either by adding it to the installation media or from a USB stick. See http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/ch06s04.html and http://dannf.org/bloggf/tech/add-firmware-to.html |
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| 20:57.55 | netsrot | nanonyme: at least I got one word right =) |
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| 20:58.41 | Witch-King | netsrot, any good though? :p |
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| 20:59.52 | *** topic/#debian is lenny (debian 5.0.0) released!: /msg dpkg lenny | /msg dpkg etch->lenny | 4.0r7 released /msg dpkg etch | FAQ: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianIRC | NO FLOOD: /msg dpkg paste | /msg bots NOT people | offtopic: #debian-offtopic |
| 20:59.59 | PsychedelicSquid | abrotman: ah, my bad. didn't finish reading before posting. sorry! |
| 21:00.03 | bnx3 | !istaller bison |
| 21:00.08 | bnx3 | !installer bison |
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| 21:00.14 | abrotman | msg the bot |
| 21:00.20 | bnx3 | k :) |
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| 21:01.22 | netsrot | Witch-King: the gfx isn't as good as in the stuff you can buy, what hardware are you planing on using? |
| 21:01.22 | nanonyme | netsrot: And by a really good benchmark I meant mostly "stretches the capabilities of the currently most powerful graphics cards". Something like what 3DMark is on Windows. :) |
| 21:01.25 | dominiq | hey all |
| 21:01.37 | turtle_ | hey you one person |
| 21:01.50 | dominiq | he he. |
| 21:01.52 | netsrot | nanonyme: you can run 3dmark in linux with wine =) |
| 21:02.03 | Witch-King | netsrot, i have a ATI Radeon HD 3850 |
| 21:02.08 | turtle_ | im the best GPU arounds guys, youll learn that fast |
| 21:02.08 | nanonyme | netsrot: The newest versions don't work properly. |
| 21:02.19 | netsrot | ah |
| 21:02.21 | Witch-King | netsrot, i am gonna try wolfenstein et:rtcw and see how it goes |
| 21:02.27 | lxsameer | does the source.list.udeb.local is a normal sources.list file in debian installer |
| 21:02.54 | valdyn | nanonyme: theres no gaming benchmarks |
| 21:03.11 | maligor | Witch-King, et:qw is probably the shiniest game around for linux |
| 21:03.21 | maligor | it's commercial ofcourse tho |
| 21:03.25 | nanonyme | valdyn: Define gaming benchmark. |
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| 21:03.32 | valdyn | nanonyme: 3Dmark |
| 21:03.33 | Witch-King | i have qw for windows maligor. i like it :D |
| 21:03.43 | maligor | Witch-King, then you can install it for linux |
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| 21:04.07 | Witch-King | perhaps. i have a friend that runs a site that reviews linux games, going to see if he has any suggestions.. |
| 21:04.12 | nanonyme | A slight warning though, fglrx hasn't been working very well together with Wine. |
| 21:04.25 | maligor | Witch-King, http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/etqw/ |
| 21:04.32 | nanonyme | Partially due to Wine bugs, partially due to fglrx bugs. |
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| 21:04.44 | maligor | Witch-King, it uses the data sets from the windows release (and the cdkey) |
| 21:04.53 | nanonyme | Oh. :O |
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| 21:05.09 | zrin | I'm trying to install lenny on GA-7VAXP (VIA KT400A / VIA 8235) with a 4-Port Promise PCI SATA controller. I can boot from installer CD, but installed lenny kernel hangs at the very beginning after "checking EDD", even with "edd=off". If I disconnect the 4 SATA HDDs from the controller (but leave it in the PCI slot), then the kernel boots! I'll be thankful for any hint :/ |
| 21:05.18 | nanonyme | maligor: Someone went through the effort to make a native version for free? |
| 21:05.35 | maligor | nanonyme, err.. idsoftware did? |
| 21:05.39 | nanonyme | Eh. |
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| 21:05.45 | maligor | note the url |
| 21:05.49 | maligor | err.. host |
| 21:06.05 | nanonyme | Yeah, true. I just read the zerowing part. |
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| 21:06.17 | maligor | nanonyme, and it's not free, you can consider it a part of the commercial game |
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| 21:06.29 | nanonyme | Right. |
| 21:06.35 | nanonyme | maligor: It's still very fair business. |
| 21:06.52 | Witch-King | nanonyme, how you think compiz will work with fglrx? good? |
| 21:06.57 | maligor | it's pretty much what idsoftware did for all their games |
| 21:06.58 | nanonyme | Someone else would have sold the Linux binaries. |
| 21:07.09 | Yaron | I have an old pc, but it only has 545mb hdd, any idea if that's enough for debian+apache2+php+mysql ? |
| 21:07.12 | valdyn | nanonyme: its just the linux client that you download, the game isnt free |
| 21:07.15 | Yaron | cli is good enough for me |
| 21:07.41 | Witch-King | Yaron, buy a 100GB hdd for 20-25$ :} |
| 21:07.42 | valdyn | nanonyme: thats what everyone who sells a game on linux which is ported from windows does |
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| 21:08.01 | antlarr | hi |
| 21:08.08 | Yaron | my current debian server uses 5gb, but has a lot of junk on it |
| 21:08.22 | Yaron | just want some servers to try out some stuff |
| 21:08.38 | antlarr | anybody has managed to make the touchpad on the unibody (alluminium) macbooks work with debian? |
| 21:08.43 | Yaron | like load balancing and proxies |
| 21:08.53 | nanonyme | valdyn: Very uncapitalistic way to do it imo. A capitalist would have made a separate Linux CD with Linux binaries and game files, then sold that. |
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| 21:09.11 | nanonyme | People ending up having to buy both Linux and Windows versions of the same game. :P |
| 21:09.12 | MikePer | Hello. I got a problem, after installing Lenny on a rather old P2 400 and rebooting udev aborts populating because "PCSPKR" is already registered. I cannot even use the keyboard after that. |
| 21:09.24 | valdyn | nanonyme: the linux version probably just doesnt sell enough to afford packaging |
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| 21:09.37 | nanonyme | Ah, that's probably true. |
| 21:09.46 | themill | !ops Mp3 is on-join spamming |
| 21:09.47 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: themill complains about: Mp3 is on-join spamming |
| 21:09.52 | valdyn | nanonyme: ( and a port of those games is a recompile since they're opengl |
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| 21:10.11 | stew | themill: thanks |
| 21:10.16 | themill | np |
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| 21:10.53 | valdyn | zrin: try the usual like switching apic off |
| 21:10.56 | valdyn | !apic |
| 21:10.56 | dpkg | rumour has it, apic is an Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller (APIC) is a more intricate Programmable Interrupt Controller (PIC). It contains a magnitude more outputs and much more complex priority schemas. One of the best known APIC architectures, the Intel APIC Architecture, is now replacing the original 8259A PIC in newer x86 PCs. |
| 21:10.59 | nanonyme | huggles his open drivers with 2D acceleration |
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| 21:11.24 | nanonyme | (Well, mine only in the manner that they're on my hard disk) |
| 21:11.53 | valdyn | Younix: just not enough |
| 21:11.54 | zrin | valdyn: I will, thank you (although the installer boots and sees all devices without any special option) |
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| 21:12.21 | lepine_w | which package provides lex? |
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| 21:12.33 | Rvec | hmm minimum for debian is 1gb hdd :/ |
| 21:12.37 | rvn | where are the netinst floppy images |
| 21:12.41 | rvn | i cant find them anymore |
| 21:12.45 | rvn | i need them for my laptop |
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| 21:12.54 | abrotman | Rvec: probably a bit less .. depending what you need |
| 21:13.16 | nanonyme | abrotman: Actually way less. |
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| 21:13.26 | Rvec | ah yes I see |
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| 21:13.36 | Rvec | then I might just manage |
| 21:13.47 | amigrave | in lenny, how can I tell alsa to use device hw:1,0 ? |
| 21:13.49 | Rvec | way less means half? |
| 21:13.49 | valdyn | 400 mb i guess |
| 21:13.53 | Rvec | oh good :) |
| 21:14.07 | rey | need secure dns server to avoid puting it into a jail or isolating in a VM, something simple and fast, what is currently popular? |
| 21:14.13 | nanonyme | valdyn: Something like that, yeah. I think mine took a little less than half a gigabyte. |
| 21:14.30 | nanonyme | (But it wasn't strictly minimal) |
| 21:14.39 | valdyn | rey:you probably want dnsmasq |
| 21:14.46 | MikePer | valdyn, but a swapspace would be nice |
| 21:15.16 | nanonyme | rey: No software is that safe if you actually care about the server security. |
| 21:15.19 | Rvec | the installer suggested I had a swap, so I now have 54mb swap :P |
| 21:16.10 | _abc_ | has anyone used the stock qemu and kqemu from etch ? ever ? does it work ? |
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| 21:16.23 | nanonyme | If you want to take an approach without jails and VM's, might want to take a look into SELinux and such. :) |
| 21:16.24 | valdyn | rey: but you can run bind9 just fine too |
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| 21:16.56 | nanonyme | Program security simply can't be relied on. |
| 21:17.10 | abrotman | Rvec: whoa .. don't hold back |
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| 21:17.58 | MikePer | Rvec, you could even use the whole space and use a file for swap after you see how much diskspace the system needs |
| 21:18.01 | ^punisher | hello |
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| 21:18.23 | valdyn | Rvec: just dont use debian. |
| 21:18.30 | Rvec | dsl? :P |
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| 21:18.31 | rey | nanonyme: have already installed |
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| 21:19.00 | rey | valdyn: bind is to huge for my needs |
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| 21:19.08 | rey | too* |
| 21:19.14 | valdyn | rey: whats huge? 1mb ram? |
| 21:19.17 | ^punisher | confidential |
| 21:19.23 | rey | valdyn: not exactly |
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| 21:19.38 | valdyn | rey: if you said complex then i could understand, but a nameserver isnt huge |
| 21:19.40 | rey | valdyn: too much options that I don't have to use |
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| 21:20.03 | valdyn | rey: dnsmask takes /etc/hosts, very easy |
| 21:20.28 | valdyn | rey: err, i think thats dnsmasq |
| 21:20.29 | stew | s/k/q/ ? |
| 21:20.35 | valdyn | ! |
| 21:20.38 | nanonyme | Indeed. |
| 21:20.48 | rey | valdyn: yea and I think it could be good for my needs (dnsmasq) |
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| 21:20.58 | valdyn | rey: its a dhcp server too however |
| 21:20.58 | nanonyme | Probably want to make sure to turn off the dhcpd in dnsmasq. :P I think it's on by default. |
| 21:21.05 | rey | valdyn: yea I know that |
| 21:21.29 | MikePer | noone an idea about my lenny problem? it didn't happen with etch |
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| 21:22.30 | valdyn | MikePer: it likely does not abort because pcspkr is already registered |
| 21:23.05 | valdyn | MikePer: cant you log in via net? |
| 21:23.34 | MikePer | valdyn, no. I cannot remember but I think I will have to install sshd first |
| 21:24.01 | valdyn | MikePer: maybe rescue mode works to install ssh |
| 21:24.10 | MikePer | valdyn, I chrooted into it from an etch live and will install ssh now |
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| 21:27.17 | smarf | although I have lots of manpages, I don't have for some functions. Is there a complete package for all of the manpages regarding GNU/linux? |
| 21:27.28 | smarf | (i.e. memset) |
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| 21:28.08 | dashs | Right way to disbale start of X at boot time? |
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| 21:28.22 | Rvec | smarf: http://manpages.debian.net <-- like that? |
| 21:28.39 | lepine_w | dashs: set it to init level 3 |
| 21:28.40 | dashs | Right way to disable... |
| 21:28.50 | lepine_w | or disable it altogether |
| 21:29.00 | dashs | lepine_w: thanks |
| 21:29.01 | smarf | well Rvec I want it locally |
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| 21:29.46 | MikePer | valdyn, I could log in now. any suggestions what to check? |
| 21:30.09 | Tramp | !tell dashs about nox |
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| 21:33.53 | JyZyXEL | how do you ls only directories? |
| 21:34.02 | dondelelcaro | JyZyXEL: ld -d; man ls |
| 21:34.44 | JyZyXEL | man ls /dir |
| 21:34.46 | JyZyXEL | no answer |
| 21:35.12 | newsense | is there any tool that will tell me what speed my fsb and ram are running at ? |
| 21:35.13 | dondelelcaro | JyZyXEL: uh... there are multiple places where it talks about directories. |
| 21:35.20 | JyZyXEL | yea none of them is that |
| 21:36.00 | elik | JyZyXEL, he DID give you the answer |
| 21:36.06 | dondelelcaro | JyZyXEL: sure there is. -d is the answer. |
| 21:36.34 | JyZyXEL | it only lists . |
| 21:36.42 | elik | JyZyXEL, so man ls /-d will |
| 21:36.53 | dondelelcaro | JyZyXEL: ls -d */; |
| 21:37.12 | JyZyXEL | what the hell |
| 21:37.16 | JyZyXEL | why do you need that |
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| 21:37.36 | dondelelcaro | JyZyXEL: because that's how you use ls to only show directories. |
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| 21:37.52 | dondelelcaro | JyZyXEL: ls isn't the right tool to select specific types of files or directories. find is the right tool. |
| 21:38.20 | dondelelcaro | JyZyXEL: find . -mindepth 1 -maxdepth 1 -type d; is probably what you're actually looking for |
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| 21:39.05 | JyZyXEL | shoudln't ls use the current directory by default |
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| 21:39.10 | JyZyXEL | so shouldn't ls -d then work |
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| 21:39.19 | dondelelcaro | JyZyXEL: uh... no. |
| 21:39.26 | dondelelcaro | JyZyXEL: -d shows the directory instead of its contents |
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| 21:39.56 | Rvec | 400529Kb blocks used for my minimum install |
| 21:40.04 | JyZyXEL | ls $PWD == ls |
| 21:40.07 | dondelelcaro | JyZyXEL: 'ls' basically performs an implicit 'ls .' |
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| 21:40.10 | ktebit | is it possible to upgrade debian4 to debian5 just through apt-get or do u need to blow away the current server? that being said, does a server need such an upgrade? |
| 21:40.21 | JyZyXEL | yea so why the hell won't it work for -d |
| 21:40.21 | dondelelcaro | JyZyXEL: and -d says, show me the directory, not its contents |
| 21:40.29 | dondelelcaro | JyZyXEL: . is a directory. |
| 21:40.35 | jelly-home | lepine_w: Debian doesn't use runlevels for that, "/msg dpkg nox" |
| 21:40.45 | dondelelcaro | JyZyXEL: it's showing you the directory, not its contents. |
| 21:40.48 | ktebit | anyone? |
| 21:40.51 | ktebit | dondelelcaro? |
| 21:40.57 | jelly-home | bueller? |
| 21:40.58 | hampusw | I can't open more than one pdf simultanously in Iceweasel. The second pdf that I try to open (one tab per pdf) is always opened externally in Evince, instead of being displayed inside Iceweasel. I don't know if it's Debian specific or not... Does anyone know anything about how to solve this? |
| 21:40.58 | JyZyXEL | thats so retarded |
| 21:41.09 | dondelelcaro | ktebit: that's one of the major reasons to use Debian. |
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| 21:41.56 | dondelelcaro | JyZyXEL: it's how ls has worked forever. It's job is to list the contents of directories, *not* to find specific things within those directories |
| 21:42.18 | ktebit | dondelelcaro: well thank goodness. now my big challenge is to convince IT that we should switch to Debian from bootyass opensuse 10.1 |
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| 21:42.52 | dondelelcaro | ktebit: as far as if you have to upgrade, you basically have about a one year window after the release of a new version of Debian to upgrade |
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| 21:43.10 | foetus | ktebit: get aware of this -- you must test the basic system first, not recommended for servers |
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| 21:43.41 | dondelelcaro | ktebit: after that time, we (generally) no longer provide security support. the precise time that that happens is announced via debian-announce, though |
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| 21:45.04 | ktebit | ok dondelelcaro |
| 21:45.32 | revlo | hi, there is no way to see what file operations dpkg would do in case of installing a file? eg what files with what permissions are installed? |
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| 21:46.35 | newsense | what does external clock mean in the output of hwinfo ? |
| 21:46.36 | dustybin | rm -R ._* folder/* <--- would that remove all the files starting with '._' ? |
| 21:46.37 | dondelelcaro | revlo: dpkg-deb on the package will tell you |
| 21:46.48 | dustybin | recursively? |
| 21:46.57 | dondelelcaro | dustybin: and everything in folder/ |
| 21:47.06 | dustybin | EVERYTHING? |
| 21:47.12 | revlo | dondelelcaro: ui thx will try |
| 21:47.15 | dondelelcaro | dustybin: yes |
| 21:47.20 | dustybin | how comes? |
| 21:47.38 | dondelelcaro | well, everything that matches folder/*; (it wouldn't delete folder/.foo, for example) |
| 21:47.39 | lxsameer | what is busybox? |
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| 21:47.48 | dondelelcaro | lxsameer: apt-cache show busybox |
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| 21:48.33 | dustybin | dondelelcaro: how can i safely remove all the files starting with '._' safely and recursively? |
| 21:48.39 | dustybin | within folder |
| 21:48.47 | dondelelcaro | dustybin: use find |
| 21:48.52 | dustybin | eek |
| 21:49.00 | stoned | rm -rf *._* ? |
| 21:49.08 | Angelical | hello, I installed debian 5 ,everything went ok during installation, but I cant boot , It starts booting and it stops booting after "PCI: not using MMCONFIG" |
| 21:49.21 | ktebit | dondelelcaro: however, for a LAMP server, there really is no need to upgrade is there? apt-get for debian4 will still have the most current say, apache/mysql/php for a few years eh? |
| 21:49.25 | Angelical | I searched in google but nothing worked |
| 21:49.29 | dondelelcaro | dustybin: for example, find folder -type f -name '._*' -exec rm '{}' '+'; |
| 21:49.43 | dustybin | dondelelcaro: is that safe? |
| 21:49.45 | dondelelcaro | ktebit: you'll still need to upgrade within a year of the release of a new stable version of debian |
| 21:49.47 | streuner | Angelical: what kind of CPU do you have? |
| 21:49.48 | stoned | dondelelcaro, how about what I said, no good? |
| 21:49.57 | Tramp | ... or even "-delete" instead of -exec rm .... |
| 21:50.09 | edju | vlc will not play windoze media files - not wmp, not avi, etc. - i dwnloaded w32codecs. any hints, pointers appreciated. |
| 21:50.09 | stoned | dondelelcaro, thats how I would have done it (is that not a good way to delete like that?) |
| 21:50.17 | elik | dustybin, nothing is safe unless you try it in a test dir |
| 21:50.29 | Angelical | streuner: AMD 64 x2 5000, I installed Debian x86 |
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| 21:50.39 | elik | dustybin, if you try it live, you WILL screw up |
| 21:50.40 | dondelelcaro | dustybin: you should read find's manpage and understand what I wrote before you run it |
| 21:50.42 | jelly-home | stoned: it's not correct. |
| 21:50.50 | Tramp | dustybin: use "-ls" first and check, that you get the right files. Then replace "-ls" with "-delete" |
| 21:50.58 | dondelelcaro | stoned: no, because that'd delete directories too, as well as things that just had ._ in the name |
| 21:51.00 | streuner | Angelical: well, /msg dpkg amd64 and use amd64 not x86 |
| 21:51.09 | stoned | oh |
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| 21:51.28 | stoned | edju, mplayer + w32codecs == ftw |
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| 21:51.44 | newsense | x86 worked for my athlon 64 x2 5200 |
| 21:51.50 | stoned | edju, if you have files encrypted with windows DRM, you're screwed, those won't be playable |
| 21:52.06 | stoned | not outside windows itself ime |
| 21:52.17 | edju | stoned, nahhh - no, no encryption at all. |
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| 21:52.25 | Angelical | streuner: thanks |
| 21:52.33 | ktebit | dondelelcaro: ah, for security patches ? |
| 21:52.46 | stoned | edju, /msg dpkg dmm, get w32codecs like you have it already you said, and then simply install mplayer and on command line mplayer filename.ext |
| 21:52.54 | ktebit | dondelelcaro: though how relevant are security patches if the only point of entry typcially is SSH and apache? |
| 21:53.01 | newsense | Angelical: did ya see what i said ? ^ |
| 21:53.05 | stoned | edju, it should work, if not, it should at least give you console output that will help to find out the problem |
| 21:53.28 | edju | stoned, isn't vlc supposed to play those? |
| 21:53.40 | Angelical | newsense: did you got some error while booting the first time? |
| 21:53.44 | newsense | no |
| 21:53.47 | stoned | vlc doesn't utilize w32codecs, only mplayer/kaffeine use it that I know about |
| 21:53.48 | newsense | im running it now |
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| 21:53.57 | valdyn | ktebit: as much as security holes are found in those 2 |
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| 21:54.03 | Angelical | newsense: :( |
| 21:54.04 | jelly-home | w32codecs shouldn't be needed for divx and similar mpeg4 anyway, ffmpeg does it all natively |
| 21:54.32 | gewt | hm |
| 21:54.33 | newsense | Angelical: just didn't want you installing amd64 version and having the samew problem |
| 21:54.33 | stoned | like I said try mplayer on them and see the console output |
| 21:54.34 | gewt | GAH |
| 21:54.43 | newsense | Angelical: x86 should work fine |
| 21:54.43 | gewt | i left my debian cd at my aunts house -.- |
| 21:54.50 | Angelical | newsense: yeah I was about to download the amd64 |
| 21:55.03 | ktebit | are you saying that after a year debian4 will no longer have a package in apt-get for the most current ssh/apache? |
| 21:55.05 | ktebit | dondelelcaro: ? |
| 21:55.13 | Angelical | newsense:thanks anyway! |
| 21:55.19 | stoned | ktebit, something like that y es |
| 21:55.23 | icenine | gewt: do you have another linux distro installed already? |
| 21:55.24 | gewt | i have a livecd, |
| 21:55.28 | valdyn | ktebit: id be suprised if its current now |
| 21:55.28 | gewt | icedtea, yes |
| 21:55.33 | gewt | icenine, yes |
| 21:55.35 | newsense | Angelical: hope it works out for ya :) sorry i couldn't be more help |
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| 21:55.44 | stoned | oldstable, stable, testing so forth are available while the older ones move to archive |
| 21:55.44 | ktebit | debian4 will never have a more current ssh/apache, even before a year ? |
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| 21:55.45 | gewt | and I want to switch to debian |
| 21:55.47 | icenine | gewt: you can easily install debian without any installation media from the net if you have another linux distro availble |
| 21:55.50 | icenine | available* |
| 21:55.54 | gewt | hm |
| 21:55.57 | gewt | is there a guide? |
| 21:56.02 | valdyn | ktebit: debian 4 isnt even the latest debian releases |
| 21:56.12 | icenine | yeah, let me find it. |
| 21:56.13 | gewt | i assume I boot from a livecd and use debootstrap? |
| 21:56.14 | stoned | ktebit, no because debian 4 is etch and thats oldstable which is not updated with new packages only security fixes |
| 21:56.16 | newsense | is there any file in /proc or /sys that will show my fsb speed ? |
| 21:56.17 | valdyn | ktebit: it will never get a new version of anything |
| 21:56.33 | stoned | ktebit, debian5 is the current stable, use that |
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| 21:56.50 | gewt | /proc/cpuinfo? |
| 21:56.56 | ktebit | unfortuately i'll never really notice how "new" debian5 is cause i only interface with this server via SSH |
| 21:57.08 | newsense | gewt: was that for me |
| 21:57.09 | newsense | ? |
| 21:57.18 | gewt | yes |
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| 21:57.34 | gewt | hm |
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| 21:57.37 | gewt | no fsb stuff, |
| 21:57.52 | dkr | newsense: maybe cpufreq utils, or lm-sensors? |
| 21:57.53 | gewt | but you should be able to determine it form the speed. |
| 21:58.01 | ktebit | stable versions of debian are frozen several months before a release, and stop getting updates from testing and unstable ? |
| 21:58.14 | newsense | gewt: how ? |
| 21:58.26 | newsense | dkr: i'll check those out, thanks |
| 21:58.28 | valdyn | ktebit: yes, basically |
| 21:58.29 | icenine | gewt: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apds03.html.en |
| 21:58.36 | revlo | newsense: maybe in dmesg? |
| 21:58.37 | stew | ktebit: testing is frozen for several months and stops getting updates from unstable, then after a while testing becomes stable and a new testing is created |
| 21:58.42 | MikePer | valdyn, do you have any suggestions what to check about my udev problem? perhaps I should switch off power management? |
| 21:58.43 | ktebit | i always assumed that contributors would port newest builds of certain software to older releases |
| 21:58.44 | stoned | dmidecode perhaps? |
| 21:58.55 | icenine | gewt: just when it comes time to do the chrooting, you'll want to mount --bind /proc /mnt/debinst/proc && mount --bind /dev /mnt/debinst/dev |
| 21:59.02 | valdyn | MikePer: i have no indication at all |
| 21:59.03 | stew | ktebit: stable will get updates, but they are rare, and usually, but not always to address security issues |
| 21:59.05 | icenine | that's the only step left out of the guide |
| 21:59.24 | valdyn | MikePer: i can just tell you that the error message you gave does not make udev hang or abort |
| 21:59.29 | stew | ktebit: and when there are security updates, they prefer to backport a fix to an older version instead of introducing a new version |
| 21:59.41 | valdyn | MikePer: ( or should not, and does not on my system ) |
| 21:59.41 | phobos_anomaly | I find it strange that debian's unstable is way more stable then ubuntu's final product |
| 21:59.55 | icenine | I don't |
| 22:00.11 | icenine | features = less stability |
| 22:00.14 | phobos_anomaly | I shouldn't say strange... more amusing then anything |
| 22:00.22 | MikePer | valdyn, '[ 22.953860] Error: Driver 'pcspkr' is already registered, aborting...' |
| 22:00.22 | hollywoodb | ubuntu is kind of a patched up hodge-podge of packages |
| 22:00.22 | icenine | ubuntu = mess of silly extra features |
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| 22:00.27 | stew | ubuntu is a topic for another channel |
| 22:00.33 | valdyn | MikePer: ah |
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| 22:00.53 | valdyn | MikePer: does that mean that udev aborted though? |
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| 22:01.14 | hollywoodb | MikePer: that warning is mostly harmless. it pertains only to pcspkr. |
| 22:01.15 | valdyn | MikePer: you can safely move that driver away |
| 22:02.00 | MikePer | hollywoodb, well, perhaps it is another problem, but I cannot even use the keyboard after booting |
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| 22:02.30 | stoned | phobos_anomaly, doom2 wad? |
| 22:02.58 | valdyn | MikePer: but i would probably move the promise sata drive away and load it later |
| 22:03.05 | phobos_anomaly | stoned: heard that alot... was using this sn before i had even heard of doom back in those days |
| 22:03.12 | valdyn | MikePer: *driver*, not drive |
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| 22:03.35 | MikePer | umm... that wasn't I with the sata problem :) |
| 22:03.44 | valdyn | MikePer: ops |
| 22:04.06 | gewt | hm |
| 22:04.14 | MikePer | valdyn, I had the problem that I cannot use the keyboard after installing lenny on an old P2 400 |
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| 22:04.49 | abrotman | ps2 or usb? |
| 22:05.14 | MikePer | abrotman, ps/2. it is a KVM though |
| 22:05.30 | stoned | newsense, ever figure it out? |
| 22:05.36 | newsense | stoned: no |
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| 22:05.48 | newsense | stoned: i tried lm-sensors and cpufrequtils |
| 22:06.11 | newsense | stoned: even checked with hwinfo |
| 22:06.35 | zrin | valdyn: the kernel apparently hags after "Probing EDD", or without the message but at the same spot with edd=off; it does not hang if Promise SATA300 TX4 BIOS is not installed; it's the same no matter what edd/acpi/apic setting; it also seems that it is not possible to disable Promise BIOS :( |
| 22:06.51 | newsense | stoned: only thing i got fom hwinfo was external clock which i'm not sure what its referring ot |
| 22:07.04 | stoned | dmidecode dumps extrenal clock |
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| 22:07.14 | stoned | if you are quad pumped then multiply that # by 4 |
| 22:07.22 | newsense | im dual |
| 22:07.23 | stoned | etc. etc. |
| 22:07.30 | newsense | so external clock is fsb ? |
| 22:07.41 | stoned | you have 266mhz fsb |
| 22:07.49 | foetus | how can i apply a configure line like --disable-debug or --with-tune=i686 to an g++ compile? always the same : unknown command or option or similar things.. |
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| 22:08.22 | stoned | er.. I do |
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| 22:08.49 | newsense | stoned: iv'e read 200mhz fsb |
| 22:08.55 | newsense | err 2000 |
| 22:08.58 | abrotman | MikePer: some older KVMs don't react well if they're not the active one on reboot |
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| 22:09.50 | valdyn | foetus: man g++ |
| 22:10.14 | MikePer | abrotman, it is the active one. and I use this one all the time, never had that problem. I even installed etch on the very same box some weeks ago without a problem :) |
| 22:10.16 | stoned | if your clock is 500mhz, and you have QDR of it, you have 2000mhz |
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| 22:11.14 | newsense | stoned: in dmidecode it says 200mhz |
| 22:12.06 | newsense | stoned: so i would multiply that by 2 than so it would be 400mhz ? |
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| 22:12.51 | stoned | do you under how these things work at all |
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| 22:13.46 | newsense | stoned: im trying to learn actually |
| 22:14.16 | newsense | stoned: right now i'm just trying to make sure my system is running at the max |
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| 22:14.31 | newsense | just got some new hardware |
| 22:14.32 | stoned | you need to find out also what your ram is running at |
| 22:14.37 | stoned | what your multiplier is |
| 22:14.50 | newsense | its 1066 but my cpu only supports 800mhz |
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| 22:14.56 | stoned | dram:fsb ratio is what I'm talking about |
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| 22:15.07 | stoned | then your ram will not run in sync |
| 22:15.09 | newsense | i set it to 400mhz in the bios so it should be at 800mhz |
| 22:15.18 | MikePer | valdyn, how can I move that driver away? by removing it from pnp-hotplug? |
| 22:15.26 | newsense | though dmidecode shows 400mhz |
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| 22:16.35 | stoned | if your fsb is at 400 and say your ram at ddr2800 which is ddr400 the system auto configure it self to use dram:fsb ratio of 1:1 to keep in sync |
| 22:16.58 | stoned | otherwise it would auto calculate a divider which will render you in asynchronous mode |
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| 22:17.32 | newsense | stoned: so from what i've told ya so far does it sound like i have everything set right ? |
| 22:18.07 | stoned | I'm not sure what youre trying to do, all you asked was that you wanted to find out your fsb via linux |
| 22:18.14 | foetus | valdyn: sure, but the problem is, how can i add options via configure? |
| 22:18.28 | stoned | while it is in your face if you boot up, post, ifnot, its in the chipset configuration utility |
| 22:18.32 | stoned | usually |
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| 22:18.54 | newsense | stoned: yeah i did, if its external clock like you said its 200mhz and from what i can see online it should be 2000 |
| 22:18.55 | stoned | cmos setup or advanced setup or even sometimes called overclock |
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| 22:20.10 | newsense | stoned: ok thanks for the help once again, i guess i'll do a little more readng and probably end up changing some settings in the bios |
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| 22:20.19 | stoned | thats a good boy |
| 22:20.29 | newsense | :) |
| 22:20.29 | stoned | http://www.techpowerup.com/printarticle.php?id=131 |
| 22:20.58 | gewt | mmm |
| 22:20.58 | foetus | valdyn: not the same syntax, apparently.. |
| 22:21.03 | gewt | thanks for the guide. |
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| 22:21.37 | stoned | also http://www.csgnetwork.com/cpuclockcalc.html |
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| 22:23.50 | newsense | stoned: wow, this is going to be a lot more fun than i thought |
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| 22:25.00 | stoned | newsense, for example, I have DDR2-800mhz ram. my default fsb is at 266mhz. my cpu multiplier is 7x. I run 1:1 dram:fsb ratio with a 2.00 multiplier. |
| 22:25.18 | stoned | newsense, I have upped my FSB to 500mhz, and my ram to 1000mhz |
| 22:25.55 | stoned | newsense, using 500fsb times 7x cpu multplier I have 3500mhz on cpu and 1000mhz on ram |
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| 22:26.03 | stoned | newsense, all in sync, 1:1 ratio |
| 22:26.14 | stoned | does that make sense? |
| 22:26.27 | stoned | but anyway, its probably more suited in ##hardware perhaps |
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| 22:27.31 | stoned | newsense, and my ram can do 4-4-4-12 even while being overclocked by 200mhz beyond its advertised speed, and I'm not even giving extra juice, default vdimm of 1.8 |
| 22:27.53 | stoned | 2 year old setup, still rock solid |
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| 22:31.31 | hollywoodb | how to view all packages that have "x11::display-manager" tag (installed or not)? |
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| 22:33.24 | stoned | script exec foreach my \$channel (Irssi::channels()) { Irssi::command("channel add -auto \$channel->{name} \$channel->{server}->{tag} \$channel->{key}")\;} |
| 22:33.35 | stoned | try /alias addchans script exec foreach my \$channel (Irssi::channels()) { Irssi::command("channel add -auto \$channel->{name} \$channel->{server}->{tag} \$channel->{key}")\;} |
| 22:33.40 | stoned | look at that what it does |
| 22:34.17 | stoned | for each channel in (get list of channels via irssi:channels) run command of irssi:command( channel add -auto(for auto join) blah blah |
| 22:34.20 | stoned | you can figure it out |
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| 22:34.49 | stoned | uhm |
| 22:34.51 | stoned | oops |
| 22:35.01 | stoned | wrong channel |
| 22:35.23 | stew | hollywoodb: "aptitude search '~Gx11::display-manager'" it requires the debtags package to be installed |
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| 22:36.00 | stew | hollywoodb: also note that you can find display managers with "apt-cache showpkg x-display-manager" in the "Reverse Provides" section |
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| 22:36.51 | abrotman | debtags search x11::display-manager |
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| 22:39.53 | eanda | hello all i'm getting the following error when running ./configure when compiling banshee 1.4.2 checking for intltool >= 0.35.0... ./configure: line 4302: intltool-update: command not found |
| 22:39.53 | eanda | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:39.53 | eanda | configure: error: Your intltool is too old. You need intltool 0.35.0 or later. |
| 22:40.07 | eanda | can someone help me with this |
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| 22:41.33 | dmoerner | eanda, do you have intltool or intltool-debian installed |
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| 22:42.23 | eanda | dmoerner: i don't know just yet i'll look. the onlything i did install was build-essential |
| 22:42.26 | eanda | brb |
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| 22:44.18 | eanda | dmoerner: no I just install intltool-debian. i had originally searched just for intltool and it didn't show up in the repository. that is why I came here |
| 22:44.25 | eanda | thank you |
| 22:45.34 | eanda | dmoerner: installed intltool-debian.. re ran ./configure and I get the same message |
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| 22:52.39 | keith4_ | wow. how the hell do I partition a 3 TB hardware raid? |
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| 23:03.10 | pl4yer0ne | keith4, the same way you would partition anything else |
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| 23:03.42 | cirzgamanti | i use sdparm --command=stop to power down unused sata HDs; one of them (not the other) wakes up after some time again, although it's unmounted. any ideas what could cause this? |
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| 23:03.43 | MegafEee | keith4: gparted? |
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| 23:03.45 | MikePer | is there a lenny specific kernel howto somewhere? |
| 23:03.45 | MegafEee | 1TB /home | 500GB /usr | 100GB /lib | 1TB swap | 500GB /var/www | 500GB / |
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| 23:03.45 | MegafEee | whatever |
| 23:03.46 | MegafEee | to much space |
| 23:03.46 | revlo | 1T swap? |
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| 23:03.46 | MegafEee | why not? xP |
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| 23:03.46 | revlo | good for ramdisks I think :-) |
| 23:03.46 | MegafEee | is enough to run windows then :P |
| 23:03.47 | revlo | that explains something.. |
| 23:03.47 | MegafEee | hm |
| 23:03.47 | MegafEee | 1TB /home | 500GB /usr | 100GB /lib | 1TB /opt | 500GB /var/www | 500GB / |
| 23:03.47 | MegafEee | better? |
| 23:03.47 | MegafEee | PS, 3TB is not enough, you have to bye more hard drives |
| 23:03.47 | revlo | now lacking swap :-) |
| 23:04.03 | MegafEee | and buy a flash drive sata to use as swap :) |
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| 23:05.08 | MegafEee | and buy a flash drive sata to use as swap :) |
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| 23:05.09 | revlo | good idea |
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| 23:05.13 | MegafEee | hey revlo, where you from? |
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| 23:05.13 | MegafEee | keith4: where are you? |
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| 23:05.13 | MegafEee | 1TB /home | 500GB /usr | 100GB /lib | 1TB /opt | 500GB /var/www | 500GB / |
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| 23:05.13 | MegafEee | maybe |
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| 23:05.43 | Chousuke | hmh |
| 23:05.43 | Chousuke | looks way too much for / and /lib at least. |
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| 23:05.44 | gewt | the wiki is down!? |
| 23:05.44 | gewt | dpkg, xen |
| 23:05.44 | cirzgamanti | 1 terabyte swap, should be enough for your 700 gigabyte ram ;) |
| 23:05.44 | gewt | ... |
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| 23:05.44 | gewt | dpkg is broken? |
| 23:05.44 | gewt | !xen |
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| 23:05.44 | Maulkin_ | !ping |
| 23:05.44 | Maulkin_ | pokes dpkg |
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| 23:05.44 | dpkg | i guess xen is an open source virtual machine monitor, intended to run up to 100 full featured OSs on a single computer. OSs must be explicitly modified ("ported") to run on Xen (although compatibility is maintained for user applications). Xen achieves high performance virtualisation without special hardware support. For detailed help, ask in #debian-xen on irc.oftc.net or see http://wiki.debian.org/Xen |
| 23:05.44 | themill | not said anything for two hours |
| 23:05.45 | gewt | nice |
| 23:05.45 | Chousuke | frankly for my systems 50GB ought to be enough for / and /usr and /lib |
| 23:05.45 | gewt | wiki is down |
| 23:11.09 | dpkg | gewt: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 23:11.09 | dpkg | pong |
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| 23:12.02 | MegafEee | ouch |
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| 23:12.02 | themill | hides behind Maulkin and the unredenetsplit |
| 23:12.03 | MegafEee | freenode are in nuts |
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| 23:12.03 | MegafEee | everyone ok? nobody injured? :P |
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| 23:12.03 | simonrvn | heh |
| 23:12.03 | gewt | i got eaten by ChanServ |
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| 23:12.04 | kansan___ | i need to upgrade my ruby version to 1.8.7 on etch |
| 23:12.04 | kansan___ | help? |
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| 23:12.04 | themill | judd versions ruby1.8 |
| 23:12.04 | judd | themill: ruby1.8 -- etch: 1.8.5-4etch3 etch-security: 1.8.5-4etch4 etch-backports: 1.8.7.72-1~bpo40+1 lenny: 1.8.7.72-3 sid: 1.8.7.72-3 squeeze: 1.8.7.72-3 |
| 23:12.05 | themill | dpkg: tell kansan___ about bpo |
| 23:12.05 | themill | kansan___: it appears to be available through backports.org |
| 23:12.05 | xjunior | hi, i'm with a big problem here. seem that my "fn" key is always pressed, but only when i'm logged on gnome. on gdm it's "ok". can somebody help me to fix it? |
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| 23:12.06 | kansan___ | how do i get this file? |
| 23:12.06 | kansan___ | what do i have to add to /sources.list/ |
| 23:12.06 | themill | kansan___: read what dpkg just told you |
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| 23:13.08 | eanda | can anyone tell me how to set the path for where glib and gtk resides. |
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| 23:17.41 | cisticola | Hi, I just upgraded to lenny and have lost my 1024x768 screen. krandr now has a max of 800x600. whats the debian way to regain the 1024x768. tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
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| 23:18.19 | nsadmin | cisticola: so the kernel is different too? |
| 23:18.39 | lepine_w7993 | is there a guide to building software on debian to reflect the debian hierarchy? |
| 23:18.55 | nsadmin | www.debian.org/devel |
| 23:18.56 | cisticola | yes 2.6.26-1-686 |
| 23:19.01 | nsadmin | lots n lots to read there |
| 23:19.07 | lepine_w7993 | thanks |
| 23:19.21 | themill | cisticola: what graphics card? lspci -nn | grep VGA |
| 23:19.23 | nsadmin | cisticola how did you get your video going under the old kernel? |
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| 23:19.53 | nsadmin | remember any special hoop you had to jump thru? |
| 23:20.50 | nsadmin | it could have been you needed to install a driver, but maybe not... |
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| 23:21.16 | themill | lenny's xorg may also need you to lart it into submission |
| 23:21.23 | cisticola | nsadmin dpkg-reconfigure. It had more user input about monitor and video card |
| 23:21.28 | nsadmin | also... themill has a pending question for ya |
| 23:21.34 | cirzgamanti | any hints what could be polling an unmounted hard drive every half hour or so, waking it up from sleep? |
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| 23:22.08 | revlo | cirzgamanti: logfiles? eg rsyslogd? |
| 23:22.21 | nsadmin | he's pretty smart and good at support (meaning good with people)... not often found together |
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| 23:22.58 | eanda | do we have any expert compilers in here? when I run ./configure i get the following error checking for GLIB - version >= 2.0.0... no Could not run GLIB test program, checking why... |
| 23:22.59 | eanda | *** The test program failed to compile or link. |
| 23:23.07 | cirzgamanti | revlo: on an unmounted disk? |
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| 23:23.17 | cirzgamanti | also, only one of the two accessory drives wakes up. |
| 23:23.30 | amphi | eanda: you have the glib -dev package installed? |
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| 23:23.37 | revlo | cirzgamanti: oh sry |
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| 23:23.54 | cisticola | themill nvidia NV34 |
| 23:24.01 | cirzgamanti | btw, i use sdparm --command=stop now, isn't there a way to let a sata drive spin down after some time by itself, like hdparm -S for ide disks? |
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| 23:24.26 | xjunior | hi, i'm with a big problem here. seem that my "fn" key is always pressed, but only when i'm logged on gnome. on gdm it's "ok". can somebody help me to fix it? |
| 23:24.30 | themill | eanda: there's normally a log file that has more information from the failed configration |
| 23:24.58 | eanda | amphi: ok I'm checking if that is install |
| 23:25.10 | themill | cisticola: did you previously install the nvidia proprietary drivers under etch? |
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| 23:25.13 | eanda | themill: checking that too |
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| 23:26.31 | eanda | amphi: I don't show a glib -dev package in my package manage |
| 23:26.38 | xjunior | please guys |
| 23:27.52 | cisticola | themil No, I did not need to. nv worked and so did vesa |
| 23:28.05 | kriebel | xjunior: try changing your keyboard or language settings in gnome |
| 23:28.09 | kriebel | that's really weird |
| 23:28.21 | themill | xjunior: does xev show it being pressed/unpressed? Is your keyboard layout set to something strange? |
| 23:28.24 | xjunior | kriebel, it's correct there =/ |
| 23:28.47 | kriebel | well, change it to something not correct to see if the fn key un-wacks |
| 23:29.06 | xjunior | themill, i know that it's not pressed because i'm pressing it to type (if i don't 5 w643d ty*e 352e th5s) |
| 23:29.09 | kriebel | then atleast you can type |
| 23:29.47 | eanda | amphi: I looked through my repository and the is nothing that starts with glib other than glib-doc and glib-doc-reference |
| 23:29.57 | themill | xjunior: so what's the problem then? |
| 23:30.18 | themill | cisticola: do you still have your etch xorg.conf around? |
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| 23:30.54 | phobos_anomaly | is there a way to strip out the crypto features from the newer kernels? |
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| 23:31.14 | amphi | eanda: no libglib2.0-dev ? |
| 23:31.21 | xjunior | themill, the problem is that if i don't press fn, i cant type.... its like if it was inverted (the fn functionality) |
| 23:31.46 | eanda | ok that is what i needed.. |
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| 23:32.24 | themill | xjunior: ahhh... does changing to another vt and back solve it? restarting X? |
| 23:32.29 | cisticola | themill Yes I do, should I cut and paste? |
| 23:32.45 | xjunior | themill, vt? |
| 23:32.56 | xjunior | themill, restart x doesn't solve the problem |
| 23:33.08 | themill | xjunior: Ctrl+Alt+F1 / Alt+F7 to get back |
| 23:33.21 | themill | cisticola: copy it back in place and see what happens |
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| 23:33.46 | xjunior | themill, yeah, this is another problem. i don't know why, but i cant change to tty1..6 |
| 23:33.56 | eanda | amphi: ok. that is installing now. in the meantime i had mess with my environment path. how do I chaged that back and what would I use for the path |
| 23:34.03 | xjunior | themill, i press ctrl+alt+f1 and nothing happens |
| 23:34.35 | themill | xjunior: well fn+F1 etc usually has other meanings. Try running "chvt 1" |
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| 23:35.44 | eanda | amphi: should I do export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/bin |
| 23:36.14 | arcsky | Ist possible that i can install debian 5.0 on a usb stick from a windows machine? |
| 23:36.26 | arcsky | i have no burner and only windows atm |
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| 23:36.33 | eanda | amphi: or should it be /usr/bin |
| 23:36.54 | kriebel | arcsky: I think that's doable |
| 23:36.56 | bnx3 | how i can update etch to lenny |
| 23:37.05 | kriebel | the debian wiki is full if install hacks |
| 23:37.24 | themill | !topicsmite bnx3 |
| 23:37.24 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon bnx3. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
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| 23:37.41 | themill | arcsky: /msg dpkg usb install |
| 23:37.45 | phobos_anomaly | bnx3: edit your sources.list and change etch to lenny, then sudo aptitude update and sudo aptitude dist-upgrade |
| 23:38.00 | themill | phobos_anomaly: please read the release notes |
| 23:38.19 | arcsky | thanks |
| 23:38.23 | themill | bnx3: there's a little more to it than that.... read the release notes and follow the instructions. |
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| 23:40.17 | amphi | eanda: I'm not sure what you're asking |
| 23:40.19 | Sam_IRC | Hey guys. I know the source list for lenny, but I need the one for etch. The equavilent for this in etch: |
| 23:40.24 | Sam_IRC | deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian lenny main contrib non-free |
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| 23:40.29 | Sam_IRC | does anyone have that in etch? |
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| 23:40.43 | themill | Sam_IRC: I'll give you one guess as to what you want. |
| 23:40.49 | Sam_IRC | themill: sure ;) |
| 23:41.19 | xjunior | themill, sorry.... well, i can say that it's happening only in gnome, on gdm it's ok, and on console (tty1...) it's ok |
| 23:41.39 | eanda | amphi: well I had run the environment path command and it is currently set to PATH=:/usr/bin is that where the path need to be pointing? |
| 23:42.08 | dkr | Sam_IRC: I guess you aren't guessing? just replace the word lenny with the word etch |
| 23:42.09 | themill | xjunior: that's progress! Try changing the keyboard layout then. Perhaps pick a kb model that is correct for your laptop if one is available. |
| 23:42.19 | Sam_IRC | dkr: well, i tried that |
| 23:42.24 | Sam_IRC | i still get funky errors |
| 23:42.30 | themill | !wayttd Sam_IRC |
| 23:42.30 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, Sam_IRC? |
| 23:42.38 | gewt | -.- |
| 23:42.46 | gewt | soemthign went wrong and I couldn't install grub |
| 23:42.53 | gewt | (I think I have to uh.../dev stuff |
| 23:42.59 | Sam_IRC | dpkg: i just did a fresh install of etch and it can't download anything since their are only 2 sources |
| 23:42.59 | dpkg | Sam_IRC: I think you lost me on that one |
| 23:43.01 | Sam_IRC | and i need more |
| 23:43.05 | gewt | and i needed to sue a grub floppy to half-boot |
| 23:43.09 | dkr | Sam_IRC: error messages usualyl tell you what is wrong, p ay attention to them. reprot them when seeking help |
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| 23:43.13 | gewt | i got it to pass to the initrd |
| 23:43.14 | Sam_IRC | okay |
| 23:43.16 | Sam_IRC | i'll pastebin it |
| 23:43.20 | gewt | but it won't moutn the root fs. |
| 23:43.21 | gewt | wtf? |
| 23:43.25 | xjunior | themill, i'm sure that there isn't one specific to my laptop... |
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| 23:43.45 | drivenn | can anyone ping my website? ,just set up my webserver ,dunno if it's accessible from outside, http://drivenn.ath.cx |
| 23:43.47 | gewt | so |
| 23:43.51 | neil_d | can you tell the netinstall CD that you want to use nfs mount for root? |
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| 23:43.56 | gewt | reboot from livecd, chroot and MAKEDEV generic? |
| 23:44.25 | Sam_IRC | dkr: http://pastebin.com/d22905356 |
| 23:44.31 | Siegfried | Hi i'm trying to untar a backup with this command tar -xvf feb09bkp-var.tar.gz --no-anchored --wildcards 'var/xx/var/xxxxx/images/*' -C /root/bkp/ |
| 23:44.44 | gewt | it says that /dev/hda3 isn't a vlaid block device |
| 23:44.44 | gewt | wtf? |
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| 23:45.06 | Spectre | hi |
| 23:45.07 | Sam_IRC | dkr: got it working ;) |
| 23:45.10 | Siegfried | but i just get cannot mkdir: no such file or directory or cannot open: no such file or directory, for all the files matching |
| 23:45.17 | neil_d | drivenn: no! |
| 23:45.21 | Spectre | Isn't there any package for advanced keyboard layouts? |
| 23:45.24 | themill | Sam_IRC: You read line 10 of your post? |
| 23:45.26 | Spectre | I know it from UBUNTU |
| 23:45.27 | Sam_IRC | i did ;) |
| 23:45.52 | Spectre | I could have for example CZ layout but inside it US layout or something similar |
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| 23:46.52 | amphi | eanda: you want /bin and perhaps ~/bin & /usr/local/bin also |
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| 23:48.10 | Siegfried | nobody seems to be able to help me :( |
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| 23:48.35 | dkr | Siegfried: do a tar -xtf feb09bkp-var.tar.gz |head maybe the files are in the archive as ./var/xx for example, so the wildcard doesn't match |
| 23:48.52 | dkr | Siegfried: oops, i mean tar -ztf |
| 23:49.01 | Siegfried | dkr but it finds them, as for each file matching it gives that error |
| 23:49.10 | dkr | wait a minute, you didn't use -z in your options the first time |
| 23:49.17 | neil_d | can you tell the netinstall CD that you want to use nfs mount for root? |
| 23:49.19 | gewt | -.- |
| 23:49.21 | Siegfried | err |
| 23:49.25 | gewt | "Waiting for root filesystem" |
| 23:49.28 | gewt | IT WILL NEVER WORK |
| 23:49.45 | xjunior | hi, i'm with a big problem here. seem that my "fn" key is always pressed (actually, the the fn key functionality is inverted), but only when i'm logged on gnome. on gdm it's "ok". can somebody help me to fix it? |
| 23:49.50 | cisticola | themill: that fixed that ok, thanks. |
| 23:49.58 | themill | cisticola: excellent! |
| 23:50.19 | Siegfried | dkr i'm dumb thanks :p |
| 23:50.21 | Spectre | nobody knows? |
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| 23:52.18 | eanda | amphi: thanks for your help, but I give up |
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| 23:53.23 | GoatHoof | is there a problem with gnome-panel on sid |
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| 23:54.53 | xjunior | themill, i'll try upgrade to unstable... |
| 23:55.12 | themill | xjunior: that's unlikely to help really.... |
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| 23:56.05 | foetus | logging out.. |
| 23:56.11 | GoatHoof | I don't have the task bar? |
| 23:56.18 | xjunior | themill, no one seem to want to help me (only you today) and I really need to work.... do you have any other suggestion? |
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| 23:57.52 | GoatHoof | I guess gnome is broken in sid |
| 23:58.00 | xjunior | themill, wow, the most weird thing is that the problem with the fn key is only on the alpha-numeric keyboard, the fn keys are working normal |
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| 23:59.02 | abrotman | GoatHoof: start smaller |
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| 23:59.08 | gewt | question: |
| 23:59.18 | gewt | what is the default unset root password? |
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| 23:59.37 | dondelelcaro | gewt: blank |
| 23:59.43 | gewt | k |
| 23:59.45 | dondelelcaro | (not the word, but nothing) |
| 23:59.55 | gewt | i installed via dbeotostrap and forgot to set one |
| 23:59.56 | GoatHoof | abrotman, It seems that nautilus cannot be installed on sid |
