| 00:00.01 | abrotman | nsadmin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classful_network#Classes |
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| 00:00.23 | _pepo_ | hi friends |
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| 00:00.47 | FuneralDirector | bonez451, you could try hirens boot cd |
| 00:01.07 | _pepo_ | I wanna install lenny in a server with a Xeon processor... Do I need ia64 architecture? |
| 00:01.13 | bonez451 | FuneralDirector: would any live or install disc work? what's lacking? I know there an issue with SATA but remind me |
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| 00:01.41 | FuneralDirector | bonez451, a live CD should work for you |
| 00:01.43 | osfd | Hi, how do I restart my sound server please (alsa) |
| 00:02.00 | bonez451 | FuneralDirector: ok, I boot with live CD and then what? |
| 00:03.07 | topgun17 | Is there a nonfree reposiroy that i can add to the repository list to get the driver for my Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01) |
| 00:03.11 | FuneralDirector | bonez451, assuming you want your ubuntu system back is that right? |
| 00:03.15 | topgun17 | wireless card? |
| 00:03.25 | bonez451 | FuneralDirector: yes, that is right |
| 00:03.28 | khaije1 | i've heard ppl discuss the vlc codec issues, but only just realized im having them too, anyone mind directing me to a fix? |
| 00:04.01 | jpinx | khaije1: what issue is that? |
| 00:04.10 | jpinx | uses vlc |
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| 00:04.19 | themill | bonez451: try #ubuntu for questions about ubuntu |
| 00:04.38 | khaije1 | jpinx: it just seems to be missing codecs, i think i read it had something to do with using debian-multimedia but i'm not sure |
| 00:04.42 | bonez451 | the drive in question is running ETCH.. |
| 00:04.59 | bonez451 | themill: isn't ETCH debian? or did I miss something???????? |
| 00:05.00 | FuneralDirector | khaije1, check alsa.org |
| 00:05.11 | FuneralDirector | you probably have oss sound card |
| 00:05.31 | jpinx | khaije1: I am runing lenny - I just aptitude installed vlc and used it - it's playing everything I throw at it without problems |
| 00:05.35 | abrotman | bonez451: you said you moved your ubuntu disk to a new system |
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| 00:05.48 | themill | bonez451: the qustion started " I moved an ubuntu disk to a newer machine.. " and you never mentioned debian |
| 00:05.53 | FuneralDirector | jpinx I am on etch |
| 00:06.00 | bonez451 | I meant etch.. I run ubuntu on other systems but this disk still runs etch.. |
| 00:06.01 | FuneralDirector | everything runs here too |
| 00:06.05 | FuneralDirector | :) |
| 00:06.05 | khaije1 | jpinx: are you able to play xvid or flv, also do you have debian-multimedia repos? |
| 00:06.18 | abrotman | bonez451: but which OS doesn't boot ? |
| 00:06.24 | bonez451 | themill: .. my mistake.. you are right.. but it is running etch on it right now.. I misspoke |
| 00:06.26 | khaije1 | FuneralDirector: wha?!? is this not a codec problem? |
| 00:06.28 | jpinx | khaije1: I don't have debian multimedia - never needed them |
| 00:06.46 | khaije1 | i'm going to disable it and see if that helps |
| 00:07.02 | FuneralDirector | khaije1, it is more about assigning |
| 00:07.11 | jpinx | khaije1: I can play .flv's and xvid,s etc without issues |
| 00:07.18 | bonez451 | abrotman: yes,,, .. that's past.. what do I need to do to get the system to recognize my drive? |
| 00:07.45 | FuneralDirector | bonez451, you might need to access your bios settings |
| 00:07.55 | abrotman | not buying it .. |
| 00:08.06 | FuneralDirector | just to make sure you have the right boot sequence |
| 00:08.07 | bonez451 | FuneralDirector: ok, I have looked in my BIOS.. what am I looking for? |
| 00:08.17 | bonez451 | what should the boot sequence be? |
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| 00:08.28 | FuneralDirector | bonez451, your boot device 1st 2nd 3rd |
| 00:08.38 | jpinx | bonez451: did you do the obvious sudo fdisk -l ? |
| 00:08.45 | FuneralDirector | abrotman, will probably help you with this |
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| 00:09.06 | abrotman | i will? |
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| 00:09.20 | themill | !annoy abrotman |
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| 00:11.46 | conky_v2 | so |
| 00:12.03 | conky_v2 | how's flash playback and video tearing these days? |
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| 00:13.17 | XVal | conky_v2 : good , how are you ? |
| 00:13.19 | XVal | :P |
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| 00:14.05 | Killabeez | I am ready for debian, I have thought long and heard and I am ready to join the ranks of ur kind. |
| 00:14.42 | XVal | Killabeez : welcome |
| 00:14.57 | XVal | looking forward to helping you along the way ;) |
| 00:15.05 | jpinx | Killabeez: have you installed it yet? |
| 00:15.51 | conky_v2 | good? |
| 00:16.01 | Killabeez | yea working on it now |
| 00:16.04 | ed0n0n | I have just installed debian-5.00-amd64 on my brand new Quad Core! :D |
| 00:16.23 | XVal | lenny's the best so far |
| 00:16.28 | conky_v2 | XVal: ah |
| 00:16.35 | XVal | first time everything runs out of the box |
| 00:16.37 | XVal | crazy |
| 00:16.50 | Killabeez | there is 5.0.0 and 5.0.0.live ? can I install from the live cd? |
| 00:16.51 | conky_v2 | XVal: reason i ask is ive been contributing to Ucrap2 and i'm done with it |
| 00:16.53 | XVal | acpi . wifi , sound , function keys! |
| 00:16.55 | conky_v2 | looking for another distro |
| 00:17.03 | conky_v2 | thinking of going back to debian... |
| 00:17.19 | ed0n0n | XVal: Debian based distros do also run out of the box, knopix also is very adaptative |
| 00:17.20 | conky_v2 | but i'm worried about 1080p playback and high motion scenes in general |
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| 00:17.52 | Killabeez | XVal can i install from the live cd? |
| 00:18.05 | conky_v2 | Killabeez: should have icon on desktop? |
| 00:18.18 | topgun17 | I can't seem to get the BNCM 4312 wifi card on my Lenovo 3000 N500 working |
| 00:18.29 | XVal | Killabeez : i dont think so. |
| 00:18.33 | Killabeez | XVal with the standard install do you build ur kernel |
| 00:18.56 | XVal | no need to worry about building your kernel |
| 00:18.59 | aixenv | damn guys i cant get postfix to install with lenny via preseed any ideas? |
| 00:19.06 | XVal | the installer does that jov for you |
| 00:19.15 | nsadmin | and just run that... it only prints stuff... pastebin the result please |
| 00:19.17 | XVal | for* |
| 00:19.29 | Killabeez | XVal ehh ok |
| 00:19.36 | aixenv | same process to get it installed works on etch, sadly something is dif with lenny |
| 00:19.50 | nsadmin | that goes just before the } |
| 00:19.54 | aixenv | oddly enough the pkgsel option is doing build-essential and vim also, and they actually get installed |
| 00:20.19 | acu | is any tool to see if someone have ping-ed your computer ? |
| 00:20.24 | CuteAlien | hi. I noticed copying on a mounted partition is extremely slow on my recently installed Lenny. Same partition mounted from another system is fast. Copying same files on my mainpartition is even faster. Maybe someone has an idea? it's mounted with: /dev/hdb5 /mnt/hdb5 ext3 auto,user,exec,rw,sync 0 0 |
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| 00:21.12 | stew | Killabeez: yes, you can install from the livecd |
| 00:21.31 | XVal | stew : you can ? since when ? |
| 00:22.03 | stew | XVal: i don't konw. a year ago or so? |
| 00:22.05 | XVal | debian can boot of the cd now and you can install it using x ? |
| 00:22.15 | XVal | damn! |
| 00:22.19 | aixenv | any ideas anyone have experience writing preseed cfg files for lenny? |
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| 00:22.52 | gryfie_ | CuteAlien, use async |
| 00:22.53 | stew | XVal: no, the livecd can run the debian-installer. i don't think that would happen "using x" |
| 00:23.01 | gryfie_ | instead of sync |
| 00:23.08 | CuteAlien | thx, I try |
| 00:23.19 | gryfie_ | sync means, it will wirte it immediatly to the disc |
| 00:23.32 | jelly-home | CuteAlien: in fact, async is default and needs not be specified |
| 00:23.36 | Laundry | can somebody assist me with a wireless adapter i've been trying to install? i have a wusb54gs and can't find drivers for it, and ndiswrapper isn't taking the drivers i give it |
| 00:23.57 | XVal | stew : i think what he means is installing it the way ubuntu does |
| 00:23.58 | CuteAlien | hm - still - same mount command on older sid is about 4-5 times faster |
| 00:24.03 | gryfie_ | ansd async will wait until enough data has filkled the buffer or enough time happens |
| 00:24.07 | XVal | running gnome and install it from there |
| 00:24.13 | CuteAlien | I mean copying with same mounted disk |
| 00:24.20 | CuteAlien | and same entry in fstab |
| 00:24.22 | nsadmin | Laundry: is your ifconfig -a any different after you plug that thing in? |
| 00:24.32 | XVal | which i've never seen before |
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| 00:24.48 | jelly-home | CuteAlien: copying from it? to it? are source and destination the same physical device? same partition? |
| 00:25.04 | stew | XVal: i was under the impression that ubuntu uses the debian-installer |
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| 00:25.09 | CuteAlien | jelly, from and to the mounted partition |
| 00:25.19 | stew | XVal: http://live.debian.net/manual/html/debian-installer.html |
| 00:25.25 | Laundry | nsadmin: yes, there's a wlan0 |
| 00:25.55 | jelly-home | CuteAlien: how is the device connected? sata? usb? |
| 00:26.08 | topgun17 | I have a gstreamer0.10-fluendo-complete-bundle_7_amd64.deb |
| 00:26.09 | gryfie_ | CuteAlien: Is it a new mainboard/disc ? |
| 00:26.10 | jelly-home | CuteAlien: usb will always be slow |
| 00:26.10 | CuteAlien | jelly-home, IDE |
| 00:26.18 | master_of_master | hi, wich is the best fs for a imap server with million of small files (~2.3k)? |
| 00:26.26 | nsadmin | Laundry: do you have any other wireless stuff plugged in? |
| 00:26.37 | gryfie_ | parallell-ata or sata ? |
| 00:26.41 | CuteAlien | gryfie_, no - very old |
| 00:26.43 | Laundry | nope, it goes away when it's not plugged in |
| 00:26.45 | jelly-home | oh, right, hdb |
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| 00:27.19 | jelly-home | CuteAlien: what is on hda and does it get used while you're accessing hdb? |
| 00:27.34 | XVal | stew : "Ubuntu"-style installer : "This is currently NOT possible with Debian Live. " |
| 00:27.45 | themill | stew: many live cds provide a "install me now" link on the desktop when its actually running as a livecd (i.e. not a separate boot option). e.g. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall#Installing |
| 00:28.40 | stew | shrugs |
| 00:28.40 | topgun17 | I can't seem to get the BNCM 4312 wifi card on my Lenovo 3000 N500 working??? |
| 00:28.40 | CuteAlien | jelly, yeah - that's it! The old system is on hda - oh my :-) |
| 00:28.40 | XVal | this is truly just worthless in my opinion |
| 00:28.40 | jelly-home | CuteAlien: put the disks on separate channels |
| 00:28.40 | CuteAlien | jelly-home, while lenny is on the same disk - just another partition |
| 00:28.41 | Laundry | nsadmin: that doesn't mean it's installed does it |
| 00:28.49 | CuteAlien | that explains it |
| 00:28.55 | rhavenn | i'm pulling in openoffice from unstable. is it possible to get it to depend on sun jre/jdk vs. the gcj? |
| 00:29.16 | themill | stew: rebooting is hard...! although if you've got a full X environment working, it makes writing the bits of the installer much easier. |
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| 00:30.49 | jelly-home | rhavenn: if you install one of the alternatives before or in the same command, (at least some parts of) gcj won't be needed |
| 00:31.05 | DeSian | ok want to know, what is the default username & password in vsftpd? |
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| 00:31.37 | XVal | ok listen up you Bind/DNS gurus , some problem here |
| 00:31.46 | jelly-home | DeSian: there is none; normal users should be able to log in with their own passwords |
| 00:31.49 | XVal | need to setup a vhost to be used for irc |
| 00:32.00 | XVal | how should i go around doing is via terminal ? |
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| 00:32.15 | XVal | i could use something like webmin , but thats not gona be very educational ;) |
| 00:32.28 | rhavenn | jelly: i've got sun-java6-jre, jdk, plugin installed and it's still trying to pull gcj ... i will investigate further |
| 00:32.52 | XVal | around doing this*** |
| 00:32.55 | jelly-home | XVal: you're basically asking how to configure the dns server and add entries. |
| 00:33.05 | DeSian | jelly-home: yes i read that, but some script don't accept empty username & password in config file! |
| 00:33.25 | XVal | jelly-home : know wonders i couldnt find anything online |
| 00:33.32 | DeSian | the best way is set new user and new password |
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| 00:34.02 | XVal | jelly-home : are the vhosts that are used for sites the same ones used for irc? |
| 00:34.06 | Xenguy | Q. Hi, I want to use find to search for a keyword in filenames, then order the found files chronologically. I'm using this but I get an error... |
| 00:34.18 | jelly-home | XVal: sites? |
| 00:34.41 | Maulkin | locate 'foo'|xargs ls -lrt |
| 00:34.41 | Xenguy | find . -iname "*keyword*" -exec ls -ltr {}\; |
| 00:34.45 | Maulkin | At a guess? |
| 00:34.55 | XVal | the virtual hosts of apatche , you know ? |
| 00:35.19 | jelly-home | XVal: oh. apache configuration has nothing to do with dns. |
| 00:35.21 | Xenguy | The error is: find: missing argument to `-exec' |
| 00:35.46 | stew | Xenguy: you need a space between } and \; |
| 00:35.58 | stew | Xenguy: and you probably want + not \; |
| 00:36.08 | XVal | jelly-home : so what im i going to be needing ? bind , ns ? |
| 00:36.10 | Xenguy | stew: oh crap, a space |
| 00:36.10 | XVal | anything else ? |
| 00:36.31 | nsadmin | why did that not work? |
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| 00:36.40 | Xenguy | stew: I have never seen any other syntax except for '\;' so that is new to me |
| 00:36.50 | Xenguy | Maulkin: tx, that's another angle |
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| 00:37.46 | jelly-home | XVal: you're going to need to learn how dns works, what reverse (PTR) records are and what the irc mask of an irc user consists of. |
| 00:37.54 | Xenguy | stew: that was indeed the error, but the output is not sorted chronologically as I'd intended :-/ |
| 00:38.39 | stew | Xenguy: try it with + instead |
| 00:38.42 | Xenguy | stew: using '+' instead of '\;' gives more usable output - tx for the tip |
| 00:38.45 | nsadmin | chronologically based on what date? |
| 00:38.47 | themill | !using find |
| 00:38.47 | dpkg | methinks using find is http://wooledge.org:8000/UsingFind |
| 00:39.07 | XVal | jelly-home : i was talking in terms of tools that are going to be need. |
| 00:39.13 | XVal | ns , bind , anything else ? |
| 00:39.15 | jelly-home | XVal: you're also going to have access to an IP address range to be able to give more than one funny name for your irc users hosts. choosing the software is the least problem. |
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| 00:39.23 | Xenguy | nsadmin: I'm just trying to sort to find the most recent files based on the keyword |
| 00:39.32 | themill | nsadmin: he's using ls -t which gives modification time |
| 00:39.33 | Xenguy | themill: tx |
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| 00:39.43 | XVal | jelly-home : ips are gona be ready soon |
| 00:39.47 | jelly-home | XVal: what do you mean by ns? |
| 00:39.54 | XVal | jelly-home : name server |
| 00:40.10 | jelly-home | XVal: bind _is_ a nameserver app. |
| 00:40.23 | stew | Xenguy: with \; it was runnning "ls -t foo" for each file it finds, and sorting 1 file by time doesn't do what ou want. with + it runs "ls -t file1 file2 file3..." |
| 00:40.26 | XVal | damn i need to read more on this |
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| 00:40.30 | Laundry | nsadmin: if wlan0 shows up when it's plugged in and not when it's not, does that mean it's working? |
| 00:40.36 | jelly-home | XVal: right. |
| 00:40.42 | XVal | runs away |
| 00:40.44 | stew | Xenguy: note that if you have more files than will fit on a single command line, things break down again |
| 00:41.17 | Xenguy | stew: good tip - very useful (what is the limit on the number of command-line files - any idea?) |
| 00:41.56 | stew | Xenguy: 64k characters? i dont' recall eactly, and I believe it is platform dependent |
| 00:42.12 | Xenguy | stew: sounds like plenty in this case. Cheers |
| 00:42.20 | Tramp | Xenguy: 128kB (32 pages a 4kB) |
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| 00:42.37 | Xenguy | Tramp: plenty :-) |
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| 00:43.05 | Xenguy | resumes his search... |
| 00:43.35 | nsadmin | Laundry: yeah, I think you're up |
| 00:43.57 | Laundry | oh, wow |
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| 00:44.01 | nsadmin | Laundry try iwlist scan |
| 00:44.24 | nsadmin | wait, that's iwlist wlan0 scan |
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| 00:44.47 | Laundry | i hope that's on the cd |
| 00:45.01 | nsadmin | Laundry: you don't have it installed? |
| 00:45.12 | Laundry | nope |
| 00:45.24 | nsadmin | !find iwlist |
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| 00:46.20 | topgun17 | An y cluses on how i can get my BCM4312 wifi card working? |
| 00:46.29 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'iwlist' (1): (/sbin/iwlist) in net/wireless-tools. |
| 00:46.48 | Laundry | nsadmin: "No scan results" |
| 00:47.16 | CuteAlien | hm, I can't notice a difference between mounting async or sync so far. Still copying only at 1mb/s. mount -a should be enought to use new settings, right? |
| 00:47.26 | Laundry | oh, nevermind |
| 00:47.27 | Laundry | it found it |
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| 00:48.03 | Laundry | i must have done something to make it work, it wasn't before |
| 00:48.17 | topgun17 | An y clues on how i can get my BCM4312 wifi card working?? |
| 00:48.52 | ed0n0n | ndiswrapper? |
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| 00:49.05 | abrotman | topgun17: b43 driver .. maybe b43-legacy? |
| 00:49.34 | topgun17 | WHAT PACKAGE DO i install to get that driver in lenny |
| 00:49.45 | ed0n0n | topgun17: You need to load b43 driver using ndiswrapper |
| 00:49.49 | abrotman | no |
| 00:49.59 | abrotman | !tell topgun17 about b43 |
| 00:50.17 | nsadmin | Laundry: maybe that means no nearby aps or peers |
| 00:50.31 | abrotman | ed0n0n: he shouldn't need ndiswrapper at all |
| 00:50.36 | Laundry | nsadmin: hmm, it seems like i connected, but i have no internet |
| 00:50.38 | ed0n0n | !tell ed0n0n about b43 |
| 00:50.47 | abrotman | !tell ed0n0n about selftell |
| 00:50.58 | Laundry | i am in the same room as this computer, btw |
| 00:51.04 | Laundry | on a wireless connection |
| 00:51.14 | ed0n0n | abrotman: sorry |
| 00:51.58 | ed0n0n | abrotman: didnt know they where supported since 2.6.24. I guess its time to sleep :O |
| 00:52.34 | abrotman | ed0n0n: probably supported way longer using the older driver |
| 00:53.20 | ed0n0n | abrotman: known about |
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| 00:59.10 | nsadmin | pastebin the whole file |
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| 01:03.56 | m3ltdown | how can i determine the amount of MB/kb/bytes a process is using in top ..? |
| 01:04.05 | m3ltdown | i mean the byte-usage, not percentage |
| 01:05.46 | abrotman | usage of what? |
| 01:06.05 | CuteAlien | In case someone has another idea why writing (but not reading) to /hdb5 is slow. This is my current fstab: http://rafb.net/p/u7LixZ15.html |
| 01:06.16 | m3ltdown | of a process. i've got several processes here i want to monitor in byte-usage, i mean, how many ram they are using...but in bytes, not in % |
| 01:06.44 | abrotman | it tells you in top |
| 01:07.23 | m3ltdown | sure..? the default columns show all the same data right now (except PID), where the %-usage is between 0.9 and 1.1 |
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| 01:08.55 | m3ltdown | ok, the field DATA is it? |
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| 01:09.07 | aixenv | postfix comes on lenny cd1 right? before doing any apt-get updates from repos? |
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| 01:09.23 | m3ltdown | didn't quite get that, because the differences were below MB-threshold in difference...thanks however |
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| 01:11.27 | CuteAlien | ok, got it. There was one broken entry in that fstab. Thanks for help. partition is now fast and lenny rocks some more :-) |
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| 01:13.17 | abrotman | !tell aixenv about cd contents |
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| 01:27.25 | Laundry | can anybody help me get my internet going? i've tried configuring with the gnome network settings app, but i can't access any websites |
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| 01:36.00 | edenroz | offer a beer to nsadmin |
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| 01:36.52 | Killabeez | so im running debian on the live cd, anyone have a walk through on how to dual boot it? |
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| 01:37.24 | nsadmin | me like root beer! |
| 01:37.28 | Killabeez | nsadmin: me 2! |
| 01:37.36 | Killabeez | nsadmin: im actually having a float right now |
| 01:38.10 | nsadmin | are you really? they had these rootbeer float popsickles in the store once |
| 01:38.26 | Killabeez | nsadmin: that might be a little weird |
| 01:38.38 | nsadmin | they were actually good... |
| 01:38.48 | nsadmin | but my fav popsickle is grape |
| 01:38.55 | abrotman | Killabeez: you wan tto dualboot .. a CD ? |
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| 01:40.04 | Killabeez | abrotman: ehh dual boot xp and debian.. just need some walkthrough on partitioning and setting up grub |
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| 01:40.20 | abrotman | but it's a liveCD .. just take it out of the drive |
| 01:40.30 | Killabeez | abrotman: but i want to install it? |
| 01:40.40 | abrotman | !d-i |
| 01:40.40 | dpkg | 5.0 lenny is now the "stable" debian release (Feb 14, 2009). See http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ for images. Etch is still available from http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/debian-installer/. Developers page is http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/. If you want to make custom install cds, start with d-i. IRC: oftc.net: #debian-boot. Also ask about <errata>. |
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| 01:45.18 | Killabeez | so no articles on dual booting xp and debian? |
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| 01:47.18 | abrotman | it's not hard .. google should have dozens |
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| 01:57.53 | bonez451 | sata+linux.. why doesn't it work? how can I get a driver disk made.. so i can boot this up? |
| 01:58.04 | abrotman | works fine for me |
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| 01:58.39 | bonez451 | but I have a samsung drive.. and before my system will boot it I have to load some drivers but.. can't get through on samsung's site to download them |
| 01:58.42 | nsadmin | bonez451: I guess you could find an installer that has a kernel with the drivers in it |
| 01:58.51 | abrotman | which OS is on the system? |
| 01:59.00 | bonez451 | the system has etch on it.. |
| 01:59.35 | abrotman | probably your kernel is .18 which is fairly old .. either try etchnhalf kernel or install lenny |
| 01:59.46 | bonez451 | the bios recognizes the drive.. shows the drive model when I boot and review the bios settings.. but when I boot knoppix. no hard drive is showing then |
| 02:00.08 | abrotman | it's the kernel, not the distro |
| 02:00.10 | bonez451 | I can't even get this drive to boot up.. then how can I install something new on it, ? |
| 02:00.18 | abrotman | or ignore me .. |
| 02:00.29 | bonez451 | abrotman: I want to follow what you tel me.. |
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| 02:01.01 | bonez451 | what if I try to install with an ubuntu 8.10 desktop disk.. to a small part of the drive, would that work? |
| 02:01.08 | abrotman | ask #ubuntu ... not us |
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| 02:03.47 | caimlas | does anyone here know if lenny's libata has support for old ide/pata disks? |
| 02:04.03 | caimlas | and, if so, what might be required to switch over to the libata drivers? |
| 02:04.04 | abrotman | controllers you mean ? |
| 02:04.16 | ajavid | divXjunky, go to vstpd.conf and enable chroot local users |
| 02:04.25 | ajavid | divXjunky, search for that option, chroot |
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| 02:04.51 | caimlas | abrotman, me, mean controllers? sure. |
| 02:04.53 | ajavid | divXjunky, that will jail your users in the root of the ftp |
| 02:04.54 | Cueball|2 | Hey. Anyone tried ipp2p? |
| 02:05.28 | caimlas | abrotman, I want to stop using the old ide drivers and use libata; I notice it's available as a module in the stock kernel. is there any way to specify preference to the initrd or such? |
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| 02:06.06 | abrotman | caimlas: how old is the stuff ? wouldn't it be easier just to get a controller/new drives? |
| 02:06.39 | ajavid | Cueball|2, what do you need help with? |
| 02:07.06 | Cueball|2 | Compiling it. I'm having trouble with it. |
| 02:07.14 | caimlas | abrotman, no, it wouldn't be easier (unless financial donations are forthcoming). |
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| 02:07.36 | caimlas | abrotman, it's a 1GHz P3, not boneyard old. |
| 02:07.42 | caimlas | abrotman, i810 stuff. |
| 02:07.43 | abrotman | caimlas: ah ok |
| 02:08.18 | ajavid | Cueball|2, /msg dpkg ask -- there's a good format for asking a good question |
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| 02:08.41 | caimlas | abrotman, so any ide ahow i'd go about switching to the libata driver? |
| 02:09.00 | abrotman | not sure if stuff that old would work |
| 02:09.20 | caimlas | abrotman, I've got an i830 system using the libata driver at this moment (ubuntu) |
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| 02:09.34 | caimlas | abrotman, and I seem to recall seeing it as an option in the kernel config... |
| 02:10.02 | caimlas | just not certain sure how to configure debian for that, or specify such a thing on the command line |
| 02:10.05 | abrotman | atapi_enabled=1 ? |
| 02:10.21 | abrotman | not sure if that will work with all the other IDE stuff enabled |
| 02:10.45 | Cueball|2 | Ok ajavid |
| 02:11.00 | jfshadow | having exim4 Debian implementation problems |
| 02:11.05 | jfshadow | anybody have this setup? |
| 02:11.31 | nsadmin | jfshadow: an implementation, a problem, a debian and an exim? |
| 02:11.34 | nsadmin | mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... |
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| 02:11.42 | caimlas | abrotman, any idea where i'd find a full listing of libata.whatever=foo boot parameters? |
| 02:11.43 | nsadmin | could be :) |
| 02:11.52 | abrotman | caimlas: Documentation/ in the sources ? |
| 02:12.05 | jfshadow | I realize exim4 on Debian is implemented different than typical exim configuration |
| 02:12.15 | jfshadow | I can receive Internet mail |
| 02:12.26 | jfshadow | can send local mail and receive locally |
| 02:12.34 | jfshadow | but I cannot send mail to the internet |
| 02:12.45 | Cueball|2 | I'm having trouble compiling ipp2p my console while trying to compile... http://paste.debian.net/30313/ |
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| 02:13.36 | jfshadow | nsadmin: I've run exim4 -d <internet address> |
| 02:13.51 | jfshadow | and the debug output shows that the internet address resolves |
| 02:14.00 | jfshadow | but the message is not allowed |
| 02:14.15 | jfshadow | says "Unrouteable address" or something similar |
| 02:14.17 | divXjunky | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:14.21 | divXjunky | ?? |
| 02:14.29 | jfshadow | nsadmin: I can ping the address too |
| 02:14.33 | nsadmin | jfshadow perhaps you need a smarthost at your isp that your exim4 can talk to |
| 02:14.45 | nsadmin | one of many ways |
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| 02:15.47 | jfshadow | nsadmin: I use AT&T - you're saying that they probably block SMTP traffic? thus requiring me to use smarthost? |
| 02:15.57 | nsadmin | in order for you to send mail your server would need a domain, or a server that appears properly as the server that handles mail for that domain... otherwise other servers will be all paranoid and think your server is forging mail |
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| 02:16.56 | nsadmin | jfshadow: it's a possibility to look into... certainly, spam and phishing has been a problem for years, and people are trying to solve those problems or at least reduce them |
| 02:17.31 | Stralytic | I'm getting the following error when I boot a system that had previously been working for years... RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0 \n invalid compressed format (err=2) \n ... I've booted from a live cd and rebuilt the initrd, reinstalled the kernel image, but it still won't boot... can someone help? |
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| 02:18.47 | jfshadow | nsadmin: right. I will contact AT&T cust. service. Probably nothing wrong with my setup. Thx. |
| 02:19.25 | nsadmin | jfshadow, yes probably nothing wrong; and yes, good idea to contact them to see how they want you to do it |
| 02:19.40 | aixenv | grr |
| 02:19.55 | aixenv | i cant believe i can find any docs on how to install postfix with lenny via preseed |
| 02:20.02 | aixenv | my cfg works just great on etch |
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| 02:24.15 | pickcoder | can anyone explain why a chroot configured with timezone info from /etc/ and /usr/share/zoneinfo/ would show UTC? |
| 02:25.02 | nsadmin | pickcoder: so when you run date, it says UTC and the time it shows is utc? |
| 02:25.09 | pickcoder | no.. my shell is fine |
| 02:25.16 | pickcoder | Postfix is showing two different date/times |
| 02:25.30 | pickcoder | when the services are not running |
| 02:25.38 | pickcoder | mailq versus postcat |
| 02:26.08 | pickcoder | when services are running they match in localtime() |
| 02:26.17 | nsadmin | you didn't say that in the original q... nevertheless, my question still stands as applied to a user in the chroot |
| 02:26.25 | abrotman | pickcoder: /etc/default/rcS ? |
| 02:26.30 | pickcoder | something is screwy in the chroot |
| 02:26.39 | pickcoder | abrotman: one sec |
| 02:26.47 | ajavid | pickcoder, hey |
| 02:27.19 | pickcoder | abrotman: genius! |
| 02:27.23 | pickcoder | UTC=yes |
| 02:28.14 | abrotman | can i get a cookie? |
| 02:28.16 | pickcoder | uh oh |
| 02:28.20 | pickcoder | well it's not fixed |
| 02:28.25 | divXjunky | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:28.26 | pickcoder | it reverses when I stop postfix |
| 02:28.30 | pickcoder | and set UTC=no |
| 02:28.33 | pickcoder | mailq breaks then |
| 02:28.35 | abrotman | time goes in reverse? |
| 02:28.42 | pickcoder | not the bug is reversed |
| 02:28.45 | pickcoder | crap |
| 02:28.49 | pickcoder | wth |
| 02:28.50 | ajavid | divXjunky, you da man |
| 02:28.52 | ajavid | divXjunky, enjoy |
| 02:28.57 | divXjunky | thanx man |
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| 02:29.00 | divXjunky | :) |
| 02:29.11 | abrotman | pickcoder: so the system has the right time, but postfix has the wrong time ? |
| 02:29.20 | pickcoder | it's tough to explain |
| 02:29.27 | abrotman | use little words :) |
| 02:29.30 | pickcoder | mailq changes operating modes depending on postfix status |
| 02:29.57 | Laundry | how can you tell if you've successfully connected to a network |
| 02:30.02 | pickcoder | if showq is running, and it's chrooted in master.cf then localtime is applied based on the data returned from that service |
| 02:30.16 | pickcoder | if services are not running, then mailq reads directly from /var/spool/postfix/ |
| 02:30.21 | pickcoder | which applies user-level tz |
| 02:30.29 | abrotman | Laundry: you'll have an IP and other network settings |
| 02:30.30 | pickcoder | and that's b0rked in this case |
| 02:30.32 | nsadmin | Laundry: pings to an external site known to return ping replies returns the replies? |
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| 02:30.39 | Stralytic | I'm getting the following error when I boot a system that had previously been working for years... RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0 \n invalid compressed format (err=2) \n ... I've booted from a live cd and rebuilt the initrd, reinstalled the kernel image, but it still won't boot... can someone help? |
| 02:30.43 | pickcoder | date: Tue Mar 10 22:30:35 EDT 2009 |
| 02:30.46 | abrotman | pickcoder: IIRC, it copies files from /etc/ when started ? |
| 02:30.51 | pickcoder | yes |
| 02:31.32 | abrotman | pickcoder: so the system is fine, but postfix hates you ? |
| 02:31.51 | pickcoder | I have no idea |
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| 02:32.06 | aixenv | speaking of postfix... anyone know if it comes on cd1? |
| 02:32.21 | aixenv | i cant get my preseed to install postfix |
| 02:32.25 | pickcoder | I can't chroot to it's "chroot" b/c there's no shell |
| 02:32.31 | abrotman | !tell aixenv about cd contents |
| 02:32.32 | abrotman | again ... |
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| 02:33.10 | pickcoder | s/its/it's |
| 02:33.15 | pickcoder | er.. |
| 02:33.23 | pickcoder | I need to give up tonight |
| 02:33.38 | abrotman | i can't imagine the chroot would keep different time settings .. |
| 02:33.50 | abrotman | what if you take it out of the chroot ? |
| 02:34.13 | pickcoder | it still does it |
| 02:34.14 | pickcoder | hold on |
| 02:34.19 | pickcoder | let me chroot showq again |
| 02:35.01 | pickcoder | it doesn't matter when it's running |
| 02:35.09 | pickcoder | chroot or not |
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| 02:36.43 | pickcoder | mailq still shows UTC when the services are down |
| 02:36.43 | PrMoriarty | hummm little questio, it s really needed for security to run apache, mysql, and squid in a chroot ? |
| 02:37.09 | PrMoriarty | postfix too |
| 02:37.09 | abrotman | depends how much security you want |
| 02:37.23 | abrotman | pickcoder: these aren't the debian packages? |
| 02:37.28 | PrMoriarty | abrotman, the max of course? an inconvient to run it in a chroot? |
| 02:37.44 | abrotman | PrMoriarty: ask pickcoder if chroots are inconvenient :) |
| 02:38.02 | PrMoriarty | pickcoder, ?? |
| 02:38.28 | nsadmin | I think he'd reply by farting in abrotman's general direction... |
| 02:38.42 | ajavid | Cueball|2, http://paste.debian.net/30313/ just got in let me look |
| 02:38.44 | PrMoriarty | i am not sure but debian create chroot during the boot no ? dunno why |
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| 02:39.21 | ajavid | Cueball|2, looks like you have an errenous source |
| 02:39.28 | ajavid | Cueball|2, consult with upstream |
| 02:39.43 | nsadmin | well debian has special scripts that create chroots for specific purposes... but generally, it doesn't. |
| 02:40.03 | ajavid | Cueball|2, as far as I can tell anyway |
| 02:40.22 | ajavid | Cueball|2, are you positive that driver compiles properly? |
| 02:40.22 | Laundry | when i try to run "ifconfig wlan0 up" i get the error message "SIDCSIFFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address" |
| 02:40.25 | Laundry | is there a way to resolve this |
| 02:40.29 | pickcoder | abrotman: um.. yes they are.. Lenny |
| 02:41.01 | PrMoriarty | Laundry, wlan0 has a fix address? |
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| 02:42.12 | ajavid | strace -ff -F -o out ifup wlan0:0 etc. etc. paste the log |
| 02:42.17 | Laundry | okay |
| 02:42.18 | ajavid | also google your error message |
| 02:42.23 | ajavid | might find something |
| 02:42.44 | ajavid | also paste your network interfaces |
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| 02:42.59 | Laundry | i don't have strace on that computer |
| 02:43.11 | ajavid | ooh, and you can't get online either to install it right? |
| 02:43.13 | Laundry | actually, currently, i don't really have a method of getting files off of it |
| 02:43.16 | Laundry | yeah |
| 02:43.19 | ajavid | damn |
| 02:43.25 | ajavid | usb? floppy? perhaps |
| 02:43.30 | ajavid | burn cd? |
| 02:43.46 | Laundry | if it's on the debian or ubuntu install cd i have those |
| 02:43.48 | ajavid | but anyway bb |
| 02:43.49 | ajavid | brb |
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| 02:45.12 | PrMoriarty | e |
| 02:46.25 | ajavid | hmm look here a sec |
| 02:46.29 | ajavid | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=515828 |
| 02:46.39 | ajavid | Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:24:28 -0500 |
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| 02:47.19 | ajavid | no other updates on it yet, and its known |
| 02:47.28 | Laundry | hmm |
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| 02:48.29 | Laundry | so what should i do? i'll have to install a new os if i can't get the internet going |
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| 02:48.53 | ajavid | I'm afraid our time is up (I must go tend to other business, I wish I could help) |
| 02:49.04 | ajavid | good luck |
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| 02:54.16 | johnrw | Hi folks, I get this in xsession-errors... Cannot open shared library /usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_pulse.so |
| 02:54.41 | abrotman | !find usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_pulse.so lenny |
| 02:54.44 | johnrw | and I don't even have /usr/lib/alsa-lib |
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| 02:57.00 | johnrw | wow... thanx dpkg! |
| 02:57.35 | johnrw | that's a bot right? |
| 02:57.41 | pickcoder | yup |
| 02:57.57 | johnrw | nice bot! |
| 02:58.01 | abrotman | no respect i tell ya |
| 02:58.16 | pickcoder | !botsnack |
| 02:58.16 | dpkg | thanks, pickcoder |
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| 02:58.35 | johnrw | Thanks abrotman! |
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| 03:01.43 | johnrw | yes sir... thanks for both the tip on using the bot and telling me what package I needed! |
| 03:02.17 | johnrw | now if I could just put that bot in my pocket... :) |
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| 03:05.48 | johnrw | Now I am getting a different error... *** PULSEAUDIO: Unable to connect: Connection refused |
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| 03:06.06 | johnrw | wwwwwhat group do i need to be a member of for pulse audio? |
| 03:06.20 | johnrw | damn wireless keyboard... |
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| 03:07.28 | ajavid | judd versions nginx |
| 03:07.29 | judd | ajavid: nginx -- etch: 0.4.13-2 etch-backports: 0.5.35-1~bpo40+1 lenny: 0.6.32-3 sid: 0.6.34-2 squeeze: 0.6.34-2 experimental: 0.7.14-1 |
| 03:08.08 | ajavid | Laundry, back. Any progress? |
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| 03:09.56 | pickcoder | johnrw: http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup |
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| 03:10.40 | el_guillermo | hmmx |
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| 03:18.25 | Laundry | ajavid: nope. i can't solve this on my own |
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| 03:19.19 | Laundry | although i did find that my resolv.conf was blanked |
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| 03:20.20 | ajavid | Laundry, that dosn't matter really |
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| 03:23.06 | Laundry | what can i do to completely reset to the default settings |
| 03:23.10 | Laundry | or get pretty damn close |
| 03:23.18 | Laundry | i might have screwed something up on accident |
| 03:24.21 | adm_ | exit |
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| 03:32.41 | trip0 | while trying to build a pacakge, I'm getting a "dpkg-deb: maintainer script `postinst' has bad permissions 644 (must be >=0555 and <=0775)" |
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| 03:33.17 | guat | trip0: read what you just post |
| 03:33.19 | trip0 | but the file is clearly: -rwxr-xr-x 1 user user 56 2009-03-11 11:31 postinst |
| 03:33.20 | dondelelcaro | trip0: it's pretty self explanatory. the postinst script needs to be at least 555, and probably 755. |
| 03:33.40 | dondelelcaro | (if you're using debhelper, this happens autmatically.) |
| 03:33.46 | karikari | Can anyone tell me what will happen when an lvm snapshots gets full? Does the original filesystem continue to work with all the changes since the snapshot and only the snapshot becomes disabled (as if I lvremove-d it) or will the original filesystem become full or what? The documentation isn't clear on this subject. |
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| 03:34.08 | trip0 | even chmod 0755 on the file doesn't effect it |
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| 03:53.29 | Metatron | does update manager make a log someplace, it starts, but crashes |
| 03:54.11 | Metatron | if i double click a .deb file it too crashes when trying to start the installer |
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| 03:58.30 | karikari | Metatron, have you tried using the command line tools, for example aptitude update followed by aptitude dist-upgrade ? |
| 03:58.47 | karikari | (as root) |
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| 03:59.57 | Metatron | no im a bit dim witted atm, ill try it, i havent been at this box in awhile forgot what to do, my other box died ater a bad attempt at resizing a partition, thanks for the basic input, i need it |
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| 04:01.36 | Metatron | getting a no public key available error |
| 04:01.41 | enouf | wtf is "update manager" ? |
| 04:01.59 | trip0 | lol |
| 04:02.08 | trip0 | it's a trap! |
| 04:02.53 | enouf | trip0: (from another network recently) -> 23:58:34] <enouf> learning how gnome or kde works underneath is more akin to learning Redmond OS concepts than white is to rice |
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| 04:04.28 | enouf | (yes, it was worth quoting/repeating, IMHO) |
| 04:04.52 | amphi | !penixstrike enouf |
| 04:04.52 | dpkg | A towering Penix descends from the heavens, knocking enouf to the ground and leaving a large wet spot. |
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| 04:05.33 | johnrw | must be gettin late... |
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| 04:06.00 | Metatron | hmm whats a dynamic MMap |
| 04:06.12 | amphi | !dynamic mmap |
| 04:06.12 | dpkg | Getting "E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room" when using apt-get? Put the following line into your /etc/apt/apt.conf: 'APT::Cache-Limit 12582912;' . If you still get the same error, increase the value. If that file doesn't exist, add it, or put that line in a file in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ You can also possibly get rid of this error by deleting entries from your sources.list that you don't actually need. |
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| 04:07.06 | Metatron | thnx |
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| 04:07.24 | amphi | bitte schön |
| 04:07.42 | bonez451 | amphi: deutscher? |
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| 04:08.04 | amphi | aber nein |
| 04:08.27 | bonez451 | was dann? |
| 04:08.30 | enouf | bonez451: gezhundheit! |
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| 04:08.55 | bonez451 | enouf: sorry.. |
| 04:09.03 | amphi | enouf: don't be so unfrühstücklich ;) |
| 04:09.43 | mnguyen | \quit |
| 04:09.54 | bozo-killer | hiya honeys |
| 04:10.58 | trip0 | i don't understand it... my postinst has the same permissions as a postinst that I extracted from another package... |
| 04:11.48 | amphi | !nickometer bozo-killer |
| 04:11.50 | dpkg | 'bozo-killer' is 14.000% lame, amphi |
| 04:11.56 | amphi | only? |
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| 04:13.37 | B0Z0-killer | c'mon .. there's 0's in there... |
| 04:13.58 | mormaii | !nickometer mormaii |
| 04:14.00 | dpkg | 'mormaii' is 0.000% lame, mormaii |
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| 04:14.28 | B0Z0-killer | !8ball is mormaii normal? |
| 04:14.29 | dpkg | Yes. |
| 04:14.32 | trip0 | !nickometer tripzero |
| 04:14.33 | dpkg | 'tripzero' is 0.000% lame, trip0 |
| 04:15.01 | false | !nickometer false |
| 04:15.02 | dpkg | 'false' is 0.000% lame, false |
| 04:15.19 | trip0 | !nickometer lame |
| 04:15.20 | dpkg | 'lame' is 62.000% lame, trip0 |
| 04:15.22 | enouf | stop |
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| 04:17.40 | dpkg | 'pl4yer0ne' is 97.880% lame, pl4yer0ne |
| 04:17.48 | pl4yer0ne | ouch. |
| 04:17.59 | trip0 | dh_fixperms: Compatibility levels before 4 are deprecated. |
| 04:18.10 | trip0 | wth does that mean? |
| 04:18.17 | pl4yer0ne | we arent friends anymore dp kay gee |
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| 04:18.59 | Flaviow | does anybody knows about dhcp server? I have some doubts but I don't know how to ask |
| 04:19.21 | stew | trip0: see the "compatibility levels" section of man 7 debhlper |
| 04:19.30 | karikari | Flaviow, what about a dhcp server? |
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| 04:20.15 | mark___ | hello .. i have two ide drives in a debian machine that i want to merge together (one 120gb and one 200gb) to make 320gb in one partition. Is this possible? |
| 04:20.28 | pl4yer0ne | mark___, yes it is |
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| 04:20.45 | pl4yer0ne | you want lvm |
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| 04:21.45 | Flaviow | karikari I have a lan that I want to put some ip restrictions: I want to put fixed ip by mac (that's easy), I don't want that people use an ip out of range setting it manually and I don't want to people use ip from different mac, is there a way to do that? |
| 04:22.03 | Flaviow | I can explain with some examples |
| 04:22.20 | karikari | Flaviow, I think I understand yo |
| 04:22.23 | karikari | u |
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| 04:23.24 | Flaviow | I can't find any tutorial about it, I've read lots of dhcpd tutorial, but not in that way |
| 04:23.42 | karikari | Flaviow, I don't think you can prevent people from setting their ip to someone elses, except you have some switch (or somthing) that can limit an ip to a mac address |
| 04:24.16 | Flaviow | I saw something about arp |
| 04:24.21 | karikari | Flaviow, if you route out through your linux box you can just block unwanted ips with iptables |
| 04:24.23 | mark___ | pl4yer0ne: can't it be done with raid? |
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| 04:25.02 | pl4yer0ne | mark___, LVM is sort of raid |
| 04:25.26 | YuLiansu | Hello. does any one know how to trim video without recompression? |
| 04:25.28 | mark___ | well my base hdd is setup with lvm but i didn't really know much about it |
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| 04:25.31 | pl4yer0ne | If you just want to append the disks it is perfect for the job |
| 04:25.35 | Flaviow | karikari is there a way to block a hole range without typing one by one? like 10.0.0.10 to 10.0.0.255 |
| 04:26.05 | mark___ | so basically i can add the two ex2 partitions on the other drive to the lvm in some way and increase the size of the partition that / is on to use all 3 disks? |
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| 04:26.21 | karikari | Flaviow, arp is just a method to get mac addresses from ips |
| 04:26.51 | pl4yer0ne | mark___, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_Volume_Manager_(Linux) and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/ |
| 04:26.51 | karikari | Flaviow, if you route through your computer, you can do that with iptables yes |
| 04:26.58 | mark___ | thanks pl4yer0ne |
| 04:27.02 | pl4yer0ne | no hassle |
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| 04:27.20 | nsadmin | mark___: you could move the stuff in those partitions elsewhere, and reformat the space with an lvm pv |
| 04:27.29 | mark___ | those partitions are empty |
| 04:27.44 | nsadmin | ok, and unmounted presently? |
| 04:27.49 | karikari | Flaviow, if I remember correctly, or perhaps it was limited to blocking subnets (in the sizes of 2^x) but you can easily make a script that blocks some specific ip range |
| 04:27.57 | mark___ | i have hda (this already has lvm from the debian install) hdb and hdc are the blank ex2 partitions |
| 04:28.11 | mark___ | so i presume i just need to add hdb and hdc to the lvm and resize the root partition |
| 04:28.49 | nsadmin | if it were me, |
| 04:28.49 | mark___ | to combine them all |
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| 04:28.49 | nsadmin | I would do a physical volume and a volume group per drive |
| 04:29.10 | nsadmin | either that, or hardware raid them together and put one pv and one vg on the combination |
| 04:29.16 | karikari | nsadmin, but if he wants to combine them? why make a volume group per drive? |
| 04:29.22 | theholyduck | karikari, its risky |
| 04:29.30 | theholyduck | its like running raid just a bunch of disks :P |
| 04:29.41 | Flaviow | karikari I think blocking unwanted ips is easy, I just don't want to type one rule at the time, I can't remember if iptables accept rules like this "-s 10.0.0.10-255/netmask" |
| 04:29.48 | nsadmin | karikari: then no partition can span the drives, which would be a source of danger to his data |
| 04:29.59 | theholyduck | runs a lvm array of 8 drives with no raid or nuthing :P |
| 04:30.12 | theholyduck | but then again. i got no files i cant loose |
| 04:30.17 | nsadmin | theholyduck, good luck with that :) |
| 04:30.23 | theholyduck | nsadmin, i've been running it for 2 years now |
| 04:30.25 | theholyduck | without dataloss |
| 04:30.25 | mark___ | theholyduck: does that allow you to combine the size of all the drives |
| 04:30.28 | Flaviow | I don't if iptables will understand that 10.0.0.10-255 is 10.0.0.10 .11 .12....... .255 or not |
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| 04:30.32 | theholyduck | i've switched out most of the drives in it though |
| 04:30.42 | theholyduck | nsadmin, but yeah its risky |
| 04:30.46 | mark___ | i'm not going to be putting things i can't take to lose on it |
| 04:30.47 | theholyduck | mark___, sure. |
| 04:30.48 | karikari | theholyduck, nsadmin, true, but it's always risky (except for raid1/5), with proper backups it would do what he wants |
| 04:31.14 | theholyduck | nsadmin, basicly i just pvmove off a drive as it starts getting old |
| 04:31.23 | theholyduck | then use it in another box after that |
| 04:31.28 | nsadmin | karikari, but that's the key isn't it, with proper backups |
| 04:31.38 | theholyduck | nsadmin, or you can just put files on it you can loose |
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| 04:31.47 | theholyduck | nsadmin, like i got 3tb of stuff. on my lvm array currently |
| 04:31.53 | theholyduck | but it all of it went away tomorrow |
| 04:31.55 | theholyduck | i wouldnt mind |
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| 04:32.22 | nsadmin | theholyduck: then for you the solution you came up with works, and you're happy with it |
| 04:32.25 | Flaviow | karikari now i just have to find a way to check if SOME IP is assigned to the right mac, if not, block internet access' |
| 04:32.37 | theholyduck | nsadmin, indeed. but for MOST people a lvm spanning multiple drives is a baaaaad idea |
| 04:32.37 | karikari | Flaviow, propably not, but you can always just do, eg: for i in `seq 10 255`; do iptables .. -s 10.0.0.$i; done |
| 04:32.54 | theholyduck | i just use it because it makes my life easier and i can live with the risk |
| 04:33.17 | nsadmin | theholyduck: but if the drives were in a hardware array, it's less problem... and with proper backups it' |
| 04:33.19 | nsadmin | s |
| 04:33.24 | nsadmin | much less problem |
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| 04:33.28 | karikari | lvm guys, but if he wants to combine three disks to one (for the purpose of a larger filesystem) he should put all the pv's into the same volume group, but ofcourse this is risky |
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| 04:34.06 | nsadmin | the thing is... |
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| 04:34.59 | mark___ | i just need to do some reading up on lvm then it looks pretty complicated to just use |
| 04:34.59 | nsadmin | at some point you're going to really want to trust your system and not have to think about how putting something in one place it has X percentage of risk while another has Y percent, ... |
| 04:35.00 | trip0 | i know debhelper scripts work good for building a package from src, but what if its a binary package? does debhelper still apply? |
| 04:35.05 | mark___ | thanks for your help guys |
| 04:35.14 | theholyduck | trip0, you could make it do that sure |
| 04:35.33 | theholyduck | trip0, it requires a bit of messing about. but its perfectly doable |
| 04:35.39 | nsadmin | debhelper can still help |
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| 04:35.52 | trip0 | any docs related to the subject? |
| 04:36.06 | karikari | Flaviow, yes, you can find out which mac addresses are using what ip with the arp command, but that is really not what dhcp does |
| 04:36.21 | nsadmin | debhelper consists of a few handfuls of package helper programs, and each has a man page |
| 04:36.59 | karikari | nsadmin, true, but that costs money : ) |
| 04:37.05 | nsadmin | so yes, there are docs, and there is extensive documentation on building packages |
| 04:37.40 | stew | trip0: debhelper is a collection of scripts for turning a debian source package into a debian binary package or packages. note that a "debian source package" doesn't necessrily have anything to do with its contents (like it might not contain any source code) |
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| 04:37.56 | nsadmin | karikari: you mean backups? or raiding the drives together? or having separate vgs per drive pv? |
| 04:38.19 | stew | trip0: so yes, it would still be often used to turn a debian source package of all binaries into a set of debian binary packages |
| 04:38.24 | karikari | nsadmin, both raiding and backups cost money |
| 04:38.43 | muddd | what do i have to read about to restrict a ssh user to their own home directory and only be able to execute programs in a certain directory? |
| 04:38.46 | nsadmin | these being a breakdown of controlling risk in where you store your files |
| 04:38.47 | karikari | nsadmin, I would and do always put lvm on top of raided arrays |
| 04:38.58 | trip0 | ahh, okay |
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| 04:40.14 | Flaviow | karikari resuming, that's what I want: assign fixed ips by mac, restrict the range so if a guy tries to sign a higher ip by hand it wouldn't have internet access, if he tries to sign a ip from range of an offline machine but mac is different, no internet access for him. I don't know how to put it in a correct way to search over google. Now I know that the "first part" I can do with dhcpd |
| 04:40.33 | Flaviow | the "second part" with iptables by blocking higher ips |
| 04:40.38 | nsadmin | karikari: I'd do that if I had money... but given my situation (control risk cheaply), I prefer single drive vgs |
| 04:40.50 | Flaviow | but I don't know what to do with the "third part" |
| 04:41.02 | Flaviow | what can I use to do it |
| 04:41.30 | karikari | Flaviow, if you are routing through a linux box, you could say, eg, iptables -s 10.0.0.1--mac-source 00:xx:xx -j ACCEPT to only accept a pair of ip and mac address |
| 04:41.37 | nsadmin | how do you measure the height of an IP (in order to compare to other IP heights)? |
| 04:42.10 | karikari | Flaviow, and there is a missing space there |
| 04:42.10 | nsadmin | my IP is 3 feet high! |
| 04:42.39 | Flaviow | nsadmin sorry for my bad english |
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| 04:42.59 | Flaviow | I meant higher ips out of my pre defined range |
| 04:42.59 | nsadmin | no worries... what did you mean by higher? |
| 04:43.02 | karikari | nsadmin, yeah, but then you really could skip the lvm part unless ofcourse you want to be able to move enlarge / shrink partitions on a single drive |
| 04:43.18 | karikari | -move |
| 04:43.32 | nsadmin | karikari: which is exactly what I want to do :) |
| 04:43.43 | epsilon | only 3 feet? dude, get IPv6 |
| 04:43.51 | karikari | nsadmin, okay :) |
| 04:44.14 | nsadmin | oh, that would make my IP 2feet 7 inches |
| 04:44.48 | karikari | nsadmin, but hd space is so cheap these days, I have 4x250GB drives on raid10 in my desktop computer just because they were doing nothing in my shelf |
| 04:45.11 | Flaviow | karikari are you saying that I can put a global "drop" and accept only from SOME IP with SOME MAC, and if SOME IP is with other MAC different than the rule it will not have internet access? |
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| 04:45.33 | karikari | Flaviow, yes, if your linux router is the gateway for that subnet |
| 04:45.42 | nsadmin | I have to be really careful in spending... if I used that logic I'd have a roomful of computer stuff and no money... |
| 04:45.43 | Flaviow | and yes, I'm routing through a linux box |
| 04:45.53 | Flaviow | debian lenny to be exactly |
| 04:46.16 | nsadmin | you're using it as a gw? |
| 04:46.21 | Flaviow | yeo |
| 04:46.22 | Flaviow | yep |
| 04:46.23 | karikari | nsadmin, exactly what I have : ) and no money to move and get a masters degree : ) |
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| 04:47.13 | karikari | Flaviow, yeah, I've done the exact same thing, set up a firewall that only passes through specific IPs with specific mac addresses |
| 04:47.42 | karikari | Flaviow, but beware one can easily change his mac address : ) |
| 04:48.31 | Flaviow | karikari what about a second class? because I want to force users to use THE fixed ip and nothing else to use squid, but I will have a second class that you can use everything |
| 04:48.48 | karikari | well |
| 04:48.50 | karikari | yeah |
| 04:48.53 | nsadmin | Flaviow what form does it take? |
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| 04:49.09 | karikari | then you could just make the iptables rules less strict for those ips |
| 04:49.14 | Flaviow | nsadmin sorry, i didn't understand |
| 04:49.22 | karikari | not restricting to mac address |
| 04:49.25 | nsadmin | that is what is the hardware of your gateway? |
| 04:49.51 | Flaviow | nsadmin pentium 233 mmx lol |
| 04:50.00 | karikari | haha nice |
| 04:50.04 | nsadmin | how big is the box? |
| 04:50.13 | karikari | <============> this big? |
| 04:50.35 | Flaviow | very tiny |
| 04:50.37 | Flaviow | lol |
| 04:50.48 | Flaviow | has 4gb of hdd |
| 04:50.55 | Flaviow | 128mb ram |
| 04:50.57 | nsadmin | I ran a t1 gateway on a p100 with like 64mb of ram |
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| 04:51.15 | nsadmin | with a /24 subnet, no nat |
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| 04:51.20 | Flaviow | well.. brazil has adsl... link is 2mb |
| 04:51.53 | Flaviow | karikari I'm thinking on make an ethernet alias and put the other class there |
| 04:52.19 | Flaviow | then I use iptables to bypass the blocks to the "free" class |
| 04:52.28 | karikari | on "a totally different subnet" ? (quoting Sandra Bullock from "The Net") |
| 04:52.36 | Flaviow | ahahahahaa |
| 04:52.38 | Flaviow | well |
| 04:52.45 | karikari | : ) |
| 04:52.54 | Flaviow | the actual subnet is 192.168.1.0 |
| 04:53.10 | Flaviow | I'm thinking 192.168.32.0 for the second |
| 04:53.13 | nsadmin | Flaviow: is the motherboard of the gw really small? see I'm interested in finding a small machine with nice ballbearing fans |
| 04:53.32 | Flaviow | nsadmin it's an AT motherboard |
| 04:53.34 | karikari | Flaviow, ok, that is propably convenient |
| 04:53.44 | Flaviow | sis 55 something |
| 04:54.05 | nsadmin | oh, oldoldold, huge and original IBM pc like? |
| 04:54.29 | Flaviow | karikari what can I use to put internet for the second class? "redirect"? |
| 04:54.38 | Flaviow | nsadmin I think so |
| 04:55.02 | Flaviow | smaller than atx motherboards |
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| 04:55.21 | nsadmin | hmm, what did you use for the case? |
| 04:55.45 | Flaviow | a generic at case, troni |
| 04:55.49 | Flaviow | really old one |
| 04:55.54 | enouf | babtAT? |
| 04:56.00 | Flaviow | AT case, correcting |
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| 04:56.10 | enouf | er babyAT? |
| 04:56.18 | enouf | i have some |
| 04:56.28 | Flaviow | no, the psu goes at the top |
| 04:57.02 | enouf | what? my PSU on my babyAT is at the top |
| 04:57.06 | karikari | Flaviow, no, in /etc/network/interfaces you just configure two devices with seperate ips and networks, then you configure dhcpd to give out ips to both these networks |
| 04:57.28 | Flaviow | hum.. |
| 04:57.30 | karikari | Flaviow, with the "default-gateway" parameter pointing to the ip of the gateway on each interface |
| 04:58.01 | enouf | Flaviow: do you really want to try and discuss the diffs between AT and ATX design with me? |
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| 04:58.27 | Flaviow | karikari ok, I can masq to the other subnet, right? |
| 04:58.35 | Flaviow | enouf no way |
| 04:58.36 | karikari | yes |
| 04:58.45 | karikari | if you want to route between them |
| 04:59.01 | karikari | simpler would be to have it all on the same subnet though |
| 04:59.13 | karikari | maybe just a larger one |
| 04:59.16 | enouf | gracefully bows out .. (no idea what the issue is) |
| 04:59.17 | Flaviow | that's what I don't want |
| 04:59.28 | karikari | haha ok |
| 04:59.57 | Flaviow | I want to have a "safe subnet" and a "fun subnet" with msn and viruses without harming the "safe subnet" |
| 05:00.19 | karikari | ok, but they are on the same cables and switches? |
| 05:00.28 | Flaviow | yep |
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| 05:00.34 | karikari | ok |
| 05:00.41 | Flaviow | should I buy a new ethernet board? |
| 05:00.46 | karikari | nah |
| 05:00.55 | karikari | just make an interface alias |
| 05:00.56 | karikari | like you said |
| 05:01.13 | karikari | no need to connect two nic's to the same switch : ) |
| 05:01.41 | Flaviow | i have a very poor encore "switch" |
| 05:01.52 | enouf | get a router |
| 05:02.00 | Flaviow | it's not a switch, just a hub, but that's ok for now |
| 05:02.12 | ajavid | aww |
| 05:02.15 | enouf | no, a switch isn't a hub |
| 05:02.27 | ajavid | its your lil hubby |
| 05:02.29 | ajavid | :D |
| 05:02.37 | ajavid | HA! |
| 05:02.41 | Flaviow | i'll buy a 3com manageable someday :S |
| 05:03.00 | enouf | 01:01:51] <enouf> get a router |
| 05:03.26 | karikari | enouf, he's configuring one? : ) |
| 05:03.36 | Flaviow | enouf isn't my linux box a router? dumb question |
| 05:03.47 | pl4yer0ne | get a procurve the have a proper lifetime warranty |
| 05:04.13 | pl4yer0ne | switch that is |
| 05:04.14 | enouf | Flaviow: could be .... is? how the F can i know>? |
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| 05:04.37 | Flaviow | karikari will dhcp server or squid load the machine too much? |
| 05:04.46 | karikari | dhcp server will not |
| 05:05.03 | enouf | Flaviow: ever hear of iptables? |
| 05:05.05 | Flaviow | like I said, it's an old machine, with low processor, low memory etc etc.. |
| 05:05.08 | karikari | squid I don't know, I once ran squid on a similar hardware, but that was long time ago |
| 05:05.14 | enouf | if not, then no |
| 05:05.27 | karikari | enouf, read above? |
| 05:05.31 | karikari | : ) |
| 05:05.50 | enouf | karikari: see floppyfw |
| 05:05.51 | Flaviow | enouf I'm trying to put some new rules, I'm using iptables just for masquerade right now |
| 05:06.04 | karikari | Flaviow, but if it's low traffic it can propably handle it |
| 05:06.11 | karikari | enouf, ? |
| 05:06.23 | nsadmin | Flaviow: might as well use ipmasq for that |
| 05:06.34 | karikari | enouf, I see :) |
| 05:06.47 | Flaviow | nsadmin hum? |
| 05:07.02 | enouf | Flaviow: ipmasq is nothing more than ICS |
| 05:07.23 | enouf | stop kidding yourself |
| 05:07.30 | karikari | ? |
| 05:08.17 | H2S04 | enouf, oh don't kid me! |
| 05:08.21 | nsadmin | look into it... the basics are that you configure the interfaces, one or more being external sources of internet (those having a default route thru a gw) and ipmasq will then "calculate" a router |
| 05:08.44 | Flaviow | hummm |
| 05:08.47 | nsadmin | and add iptables rules to implement that router |
| 05:09.21 | H2S04 | weeeeeeeeee. |
| 05:09.23 | nsadmin | say your ip changes due to dhcp lease expiry... |
| 05:09.41 | nsadmin | it recalculates the router |
| 05:09.49 | enouf | if one needs to run lowlevel routing/firewall rules through old boxen, use floppyfw, vectorlinux, basiclinux, featherlinux, old slackware ... just stop with this AT bullshit! |
| 05:10.34 | Flaviow | I'll read more about ipmasq |
| 05:10.40 | enouf | buy a fucken 20$ router |
| 05:10.45 | enouf | you cheap fuck |
| 05:10.52 | Flaviow | lol |
| 05:11.13 | enouf | uses much less Power |
| 05:11.16 | nsadmin | heyy, stewy says no name calling :P |
| 05:11.54 | karikari | but all the cheap ass routers suck |
| 05:11.55 | Flaviow | enouf I ever thought that a "computer" router works better than "closed-box" router |
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| 05:12.00 | enouf | sucks .... and is a bad name |
| 05:12.03 | karikari | mine is always freezing up on me |
| 05:12.21 | nsadmin | that is one of my goals... but I want control too, so a debian with ipmasq |
| 05:12.36 | nsadmin | way wayyy less power consumption |
| 05:12.40 | enouf | karikari: that's true! (cheap routers) |
| 05:12.42 | karikari | I have a zyxel adsl router, and I recommend everyone to stay as far away from those as you can |
| 05:12.48 | enouf | so demand more! |
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| 05:13.23 | karikari | enouf, but then there is no fun configuring : ) |
| 05:13.24 | enouf | duh .... "with your wallet" |
| 05:13.25 | Flaviow | nsadmin i have the debian already, now i'll learn about ipmasq and see if I really need it |
| 05:13.29 | shyam_k | hi have a problem shutting down.. its stuck at "Saving the system clock" i have "Clocksource tsc unstable" in /var/log/messages does that say anything? |
| 05:13.34 | nsadmin | and stability would be a good thing :P |
| 05:14.25 | Flaviow | nsadmin if i'm using dhcp to use fixed ip, do I still need ipmasq? |
| 05:14.25 | nsadmin | shyam_k how is that a problem? does it ever shut down? |
| 05:14.41 | shyam_k | nsadmin: no it never.. it even stays up a full night!:) |
| 05:14.42 | enouf | nsadmin: you might want/like something like ddwrt? what the heck is the name again :-P |
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| 05:14.55 | nsadmin | need? you don't need anything :) you can write your own rules too of course |
| 05:14.58 | shyam_k | i had an error before, that i found out to be from hwclock, which i cured by giving --directisa option at /etc/init.d/hwclock.sh but now the error is gone, it just stucks.. |
| 05:15.25 | enouf | !ddwrt |
| 05:15.27 | karikari | Flaviow, routing with iptables isn't that complicated |
| 05:15.32 | enouf | whoops |
| 05:15.37 | karikari | pretty much one line |
| 05:15.46 | nsadmin | but ipmasq is convenient, its default sets most people up with no problem and has a very organized setup that is flexible and mallable |
| 05:15.48 | karikari | and then you have to echo "1" into some /proc file |
| 05:16.04 | karikari | nsadmin, ok, didn't know about it |
| 05:16.09 | enouf | shyam_k: does hpet=force or similar work? |
| 05:16.55 | karikari | nsadmin, what is it more then iptables -A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE ? ;) |
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| 05:17.01 | shyam_k | enouf: didn't try that.. |
| 05:17.29 | Flaviow | karikari that's the rule I use, is that "ipmasq"? |
| 05:17.40 | shyam_k | enouf: in /proc/timer_list ? |
| 05:17.56 | karikari | Flaviow, that is ip masquerading yes : ) |
| 05:17.56 | nsadmin | karikari: you set up the interfaces, it looks at the interfaces, thinks for a minnit, then spews out iptables rules |
| 05:18.01 | karikari | but the program does something more I guess |
| 05:18.06 | Killabeez | hi, new to debian/linux, I have the live cd loaded up and would like to install debian -- is there any support articles for this? |
| 05:18.12 | karikari | ^ |
| 05:18.17 | enouf | shyam_k: http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.28/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt (note; that's .28 docs) |
| 05:18.38 | karikari | nsadmin, nice, will look at it next time I route : ) |
| 05:18.48 | Flaviow | karikari that's what i want to know, what's "more"? lol |
| 05:18.56 | enouf | shyam_k: twas an old issue |
| 05:19.09 | shyam_k | but am in a new kernel! |
| 05:19.23 | shyam_k | 2.6.24-19-386 |
| 05:19.41 | karikari | Flaviow, I don't know :) only nsadmin and "the internet" does |
| 05:19.56 | shyam_k | oh thats old:) |
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| 05:20.51 | nsadmin | karikari: it's also very flexible in how it generates the rules, for a coupla examples, it supports ipfwadm, ipchains, iptables and without too much trouble could probably support whatever the next thing in firewalling the linux kernel people come up with |
| 05:20.55 | Killabeez | Im guessing the first thing I should do is setup lilo or grub? |
| 05:21.26 | nsadmin | also, it lets you alter how it generates rules |
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| 05:21.48 | karikari | nsadmin, you don't think ipmasq will be outdated before iptables will? :) |
| 05:21.57 | nsadmin | it's really a generic structure for a router |
| 05:22.05 | karikari | okok |
| 05:22.10 | karikari | sounds interesting |
| 05:22.31 | nsadmin | karikari: it's lasted thru 2.2 and before, 2.4, 2.6 |
| 05:22.42 | karikari | ok nice |
| 05:23.23 | karikari | pretty much the only thing I do when routing is create that one iptables line and echo that "1" into the /proc/... file |
| 05:23.23 | nsadmin | Killabeez: perhaps the biggest concern is going to be gaining some unpartitioned disk space |
| 05:24.49 | nsadmin | Killabeez: you say you're new to linux too? |
| 05:26.00 | Killabeez | nsadmin: new to linux - have about a year and a half working with it professionaly |
| 05:26.15 | Killabeez | professionally* |
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| 05:27.37 | Killabeez | nsadmin: I have about 100gb thats not partitioned - Im guessing to fdisk it? |
| 05:27.45 | karikari | Flaviow, nsadmin, thanks for the chat though, must be off, gn :) |
| 05:27.47 | nsadmin | oh, ok... so you should have no trouble installing... if you want to use the live cd to install, you can do that... otherwise you could use a netinst assuming you have a fairly fat net connection whose devices are supported by the installer |
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| 05:28.00 | nsadmin | Killabeez: the installer will do all that |
| 05:28.20 | nsadmin | either guided or you can make all the decisions |
| 05:28.31 | Killabeez | nsadmin: forgive me but i am not seeing a installer? Is that part of the live cd? |
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| 05:28.55 | nsadmin | I've never dealt with the live cd... not sure how it does the installing |
| 05:29.32 | nsadmin | if it turns out it doesn't, you can download a 15omb netinstall cd |
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| 05:29.40 | nsadmin | what arch is your hardware? |
| 05:29.55 | Killabeez | 32 |
| 05:30.08 | nsadmin | and intel? |
| 05:30.18 | Killabeez | amd dc 4400+ |
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| 05:30.51 | nsadmin | hmm, what's a dc? |
| 05:30.54 | Killabeez | dual core |
| 05:31.08 | nsadmin | oh it is? it's not an amd64x2? |
| 05:31.10 | Killabeez | i guess technically its a 64x arch but , I am not sure the need of that |
| 05:31.28 | nsadmin | so you have a choice... |
| 05:32.05 | nsadmin | you could use i386 userland or amd64 userland, and either can use an amd64 kernel |
| 05:32.44 | Killabeez | Well I think I might live on the wild side and try the 64x |
| 05:32.51 | nsadmin | the choice of which userland is important, if only becasue it is difficult or impossible to change your mind without a fulll reinstall |
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| 05:33.48 | Killabeez | nsadmin: I know a few years ago everything was more compatible with the 32bit OS, is it still the same today? |
| 05:34.20 | nsadmin | well more of the problems have been worked out since then |
| 05:34.59 | nsadmin | there are still a few minor spots of incompatibility, I'm given to understand a few packages still won't build under amd64 |
| 05:35.11 | Killabeez | Can you link me to the net install you were speaking of? |
| 05:35.24 | stew | Killabeez: the livecd contains the installer |
| 05:35.26 | nsadmin | you'll probably want to see a list of those, and I don't know how to produce it |
| 05:35.53 | Killabeez | stew if you could point me in the right direction that would be great as I am not seeing it. |
| 05:36.25 | nsadmin | is the live cd you have an i386 one? |
| 05:36.30 | Killabeez | nsadmin: aye |
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| 05:36.51 | nsadmin | ok, so if you use that, you will have made the userland choice |
| 05:37.05 | stew | Killabeez: i don't know, but i'd assume it was a boot option. try hitting f1 at the boot prompt |
| 05:37.05 | Killabeez | nsadmin: if I use the netinstaller you were speaking of, I can select? |
| 05:37.23 | nsadmin | you select by choosing which netinst image |
| 05:37.39 | Killabeez | nsadmin: ahh very nice. |
| 05:37.42 | stew | Killabeez: you can choose which netinstaller you use, or you can get the multiboot installer which has both (and powerpc) installers |
| 05:38.02 | nsadmin | stew: how big is that one? |
| 05:38.02 | Killabeez | and the netinstaller is accessed from the boot menu? |
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| 05:39.06 | stew | nsadmin: ~ 500mb ? |
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| 05:39.22 | nsadmin | hmm, so just under a full cd's worth |
| 05:39.43 | stew | its just 3 netinsts |
| 05:40.02 | stew | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/5.0.0/multi-arch/ |
| 05:40.24 | mf_417 | Hi, we have an internal Automation System that is web based (ajax+php), I wanna develop an extension for firefox that periodically logs into our system and checks for new mail. When I call login.php from where files are (Same Origin) there is no problem, but when I try to fech mails by my client, I get this error: Access to restricted URI denied (NS_ERROR_DOM_BAD_URI) |
| 05:41.26 | Killabeez | stew thanks I think I will go with the debian-500-amd64-netinst.iso - its around 131MB |
| 05:42.08 | nsadmin | are there later kernels for lenny in backports? |
| 05:42.16 | Killabeez | nsadmin: this netinst will take me threw gui setup and all? |
| 05:42.31 | nsadmin | for some definition of gui :) |
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| 05:45.52 | nsadmin | Killabeez: the netinst is capable of installing the debian base without a net connection if necessary |
| 05:47.48 | beardy | The "big" netinst image, that is. |
| 05:48.23 | nsadmin | isn't that the reason for its existance from its inception? |
| 05:48.55 | nsadmin | what's a "little" one? and how large? |
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| 05:49.11 | beardy | The businesscard installer is around 50MB. |
| 05:49.18 | nsadmin | oh ok |
| 05:49.53 | beardy | It doesn't have a full base system, so it is more the true netinstaller. |
| 05:50.25 | nsadmin | gotcha |
| 05:51.12 | nsadmin | so that would require a supported net connection which would be established before grabbing the base? |
| 05:51.32 | nsadmin | and perhaps even pieces of itself? |
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| 05:56.13 | beardy | Not pieces of itself, but the base packages, it needs a net connection to get, yes. |
| 05:56.50 | Killabeez | I'm getting such great DL speeds currently I think I will just download the amd64 CD - All I will need to get going is CD1 - correct? |
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| 05:57.36 | beardy | Noone knows what you need to get going, but the most popular packages according to popcon is on the first CD yes. |
| 05:58.06 | stew | Killabeez: yes, as long as you could get onto the internet with a stock debian kernel |
| 05:59.37 | Killabeez | beardy so this would be the reccommended way of getting lenny installed? |
| 06:00.05 | Killabeez | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:00.19 | beardy | Killabeez: No, the recommended way usually is to use the netinstaller, by me, and many. |
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| 06:02.06 | Natilous | Hi All, I want to run a LanAccounting Server, What can I do it? Anyone do it before ? |
| 06:02.58 | Natilous | any help? |
| 06:03.02 | beardy | Killabeez: The full cd or dvd images only makes sense to use for machines with no net connection, or a very slow one. |
| 06:03.42 | beardy | Natilous: What is LanAccounting? |
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| 06:05.41 | Natilous | beardy: like ISPs. |
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| 06:09.46 | dacs | howdy folks |
| 06:10.08 | Killabeez | installing now wish me luck =) |
| 06:11.13 | dacs | i am at work, and i have a user that has been logged for more than 8days "he shouldn't be logged more than 20min" i am trying to kill that username using killall -9 <username> and i get this usage: killall [signal] ?! |
| 06:11.48 | stew | dacs: have a look at slay |
| 06:12.26 | dacs | stew: what do you mean? |
| 06:12.44 | stew | dacs: killall doesn't do what you want, slay does |
| 06:13.16 | dacs | stew: aha |
| 06:14.08 | dacs | no man for slay :( |
| 06:14.30 | dacs | oh well , i thought it will work on solaris |
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| 06:30.49 | maddash | hi, where do i find Linux chix? |
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| 06:31.33 | Boohbah | maddash: what is a chix? |
| 06:33.14 | streuner_ | chic |
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| 06:33.42 | ectospasm | Whoever told me to go to mp3blaster's site (on sf) to search for my alsa device solution... that ultimately worked. I had to compile SDL support into the latest version, and that was decidedly nontrivial. |
| 06:33.47 | ectospasm | So... thanks. |
| 06:33.54 | ectospasm | I got it working. |
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| 06:39.42 | ectospasm | one thing I was not expecting out of debian... I installed elinks as a console web browser... and if I click on somafm.com's "play stream in external player link" it launches alsaplayer and plays the stream, with absolutely zero configuration. Nice! |
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| 06:44.24 | Rizy | hey guys.. i just ordered a server from someone and debian isn't detecting all the cores or ram any ideas? |
| 06:44.46 | liable | try a big-mem kernel? |
| 06:44.46 | ectospasm | Rizy: 32bit or 64bit? |
| 06:44.55 | ectospasm | PAE kernel, yeah |
| 06:45.03 | beardy | Debian doesn't care. The kernel does. |
| 06:45.06 | beardy | !bigmem |
| 06:45.07 | dpkg | -bigmem linux-images support up to 64GB of ram. If you have more than about 3.4 GB of ram, install and use this to see everything past the sub ~3.4 GB limit. |
| 06:45.25 | ectospasm | beardy: that doesn't depend on arch? |
| 06:45.29 | Rizy | its debian 5 32bit liable |
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| 06:45.52 | Rizy | he said he's not sure how to activate PAE, nor am i. |
| 06:45.59 | beardy | ectospasm: It does. Did he say which? No, therefor i386 is assumed. |
| 06:46.06 | liable | Rizy: see what dpkg and i said above, if you have 32bit with a lot of ram, you want a bigmem kernel |
| 06:46.29 | ectospasm | beardy: that's becoming less and less a safe assumption |
| 06:46.40 | beardy | ectospasm: Then be specific. |
| 06:47.08 | ectospasm | beardy: I didn't ask the original question, which is why I asked 32bit or 64bit... |
| 06:47.19 | beardy | ectospasm: Yep. |
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| 06:47.45 | ectospasm | incidentally, I have a very similar issue on my 32bit Ubuntu install. |
| 06:48.08 | Rizy | beardy, how do you get bigmem working? |
| 06:48.29 | ectospasm | I'm expecting to upgrade to 64bit soon... just gotta figure out the best way to migrate my vmware-server image over. |
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| 06:48.56 | ectospasm | and with that, I must retire. Cy'all l8r |
| 06:50.13 | beardy | Rizy: Like said above, if your machine is a 32-bit x86, use a kernel with bigmem enabled. That is, install the appropriate linux-image package, that ends its package name with -bigmem. |
| 06:50.13 | dashiva_ | Hi, been using Debian sometime now and like it. I use Iceweasel for web browsing, is there some way to make the fonts look nicer? more windows if u like |
| 06:50.21 | dashiva_ | right now they look very "bleh" |
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| 06:54.00 | Killabeez | So debian is now installed =) |
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| 06:55.51 | pl4yer0ne | time to make it do cool stuff Killabeez |
| 06:56.14 | Rizy | beardy: he ran apt-cache search bigmem and it's not finding anything? |
| 06:56.16 | Killabeez | pl4yer0ne: yea working on installing my ATI drivers so I can get better resolution |
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| 06:58.36 | Killabeez | should i apt get the drivers or download from amd website? |
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| 06:59.17 | pl4yer0ne | Dunno about ATI dude. |
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| 07:00.07 | pl4yer0ne | try the repo drivers and if they suck then try the ati website ones i guess |
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| 07:02.45 | maddash | is lebian lenny squeeze now? |
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| 07:03.16 | roy_hobbs | What software will let me run my own keyserver? |
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| 07:05.18 | simonrvn | maddash: you missing an 's' there? j/k you mean testing? yeh |
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| 07:05.56 | maddash | simonrvn: so lesbian squeeze is unstable? |
| 07:06.00 | maddash | debian*** |
| 07:06.10 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 07:06.11 | zu22 | running debian testing, when i ssh in to my server to add web content i want to be able to enter chinese characters in the console (in emacs) and have it rendered properl in apache, how can i do this? |
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| 07:06.22 | zu22 | right now if i paste chinese into my ssh session it shows up as gibberish |
| 07:06.27 | simonrvn | squeeze is testing ;) |
| 07:06.31 | zu22 | even though it renders fine on my desktop |
| 07:06.38 | zu22 | what packages do i need to install on my server? |
| 07:06.42 | simonrvn | zu22: fonts; utf-8 support |
| 07:06.43 | kunal | hello. |
| 07:07.01 | zu22 | simonrvn: so package 'fonts' and 'utf-8' ? |
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| 07:07.28 | maddash | zu22: i think it's localization-config |
| 07:07.37 | zu22 | maddash: oh |
| 07:07.38 | simonrvn | configure your locale, and add some fonts |
| 07:07.44 | maddash | zu22: and/or locales |
| 07:07.45 | simonrvn | dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 07:07.55 | zu22 | simonrvn: ok, i still wnat english to work though |
| 07:08.00 | zu22 | s/wnat/want |
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| 07:08.04 | simonrvn | sure |
| 07:08.33 | zu22 | and do i have to do anything special on apache side to get the chinese to render for visitors to my website? |
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| 07:09.01 | kunal | anyone know how to configure ethernet connection to specifc dns, ip address, etc? |
| 07:09.09 | simonrvn | though the fonts aren't as important on the server as on your workstation, unless you want console to work too. console is a bit harder to get good wide-ranged fonts on, but probably doable ;). |
| 07:09.24 | simonrvn | zu22: no, that would be their job, not yours. |
| 07:09.36 | maddash | kunal: dns info is in /etc/resolv.conf |
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| 07:09.41 | zu22 | simronrvn: i see, ok cool thanks |
| 07:09.46 | simonrvn | !tell kunal -about interfaces |
| 07:09.48 | Rizy | hey guys, i tried doing the bigmem but the package isn't even on the system |
| 07:09.50 | kunal | maddash- thanks |
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| 07:10.18 | Rizy | i tried updating and searching, but still nothing. |
| 07:10.22 | worr | kunal: the other info goes in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 07:10.25 | kanyukuk | naber m,llet |
| 07:10.28 | kanyukuk | a.k. sizin :D |
| 07:10.35 | kunal | do i modify the file? |
| 07:10.41 | worr | you gotta make the interface static, and then you can specify ip, subnet and such. |
| 07:10.44 | worr | yeah |
| 07:11.00 | kunal | so its basically a textpad which i edit |
| 07:11.04 | kunal | and then save |
| 07:11.08 | kunal | and it'll do the rest? |
| 07:11.09 | worr | yeah |
| 07:11.14 | kunal | ok thanks :) |
| 07:11.19 | worr | you'll need to restart the interface |
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| 07:11.37 | Rizy | should i try different servers in my sources? and if so which ones |
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| 07:12.04 | worr | kunal: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianReference/Network?highlight=%28ifconfig%29#head-d092b31b79e17460fb547c5d85f22f10d3278b39 |
| 07:12.08 | worr | That link should help |
| 07:12.14 | kenboo | how to get a list of packages that were not a part of official lenny packages? |
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| 07:12.25 | worr | you want the part about static ips |
| 07:13.01 | kunal | worr- thanks so much :) |
| 07:13.14 | kunal | i want to configure the ip address, the DNS address, the subnet |
| 07:13.17 | kunal | gateway |
| 07:13.29 | kunal | also my intneret connection requires username and password |
| 07:13.47 | worr | where does it ask you for the username and password? |
| 07:13.51 | worr | through a web interface? |
| 07:14.02 | worr | where did you specify it before? |
| 07:14.17 | kunal | yes |
| 07:14.23 | kunal | web interface |
| 07:14.43 | worr | then it should just work as normal then |
| 07:14.46 | worr | don't worry about it |
| 07:15.15 | worr | so yeah, that page should help do the resolvconf stuff for dns and the stuff for setting a static ip |
| 07:15.21 | kunal | yes. its very nice page. thanks so much |
| 07:15.25 | worr | anytime |
| 07:15.28 | kunal | better than the man interface |
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| 07:15.40 | worr | the debian wiki is pretty useful |
| 07:15.42 | kunal | which some idiots were forcing me to read. |
| 07:15.51 | kunal | you know the man interface manuals right? |
| 07:15.56 | worr | yeah |
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| 07:16.18 | kunal | its hopeless |
| 07:16.28 | worr | they're useful, but wiki pages are easier to read |
| 07:16.40 | KineticBug | I love nohups documentation, or blatent lack of :) |
| 07:16.45 | worr | manpages generally have their place |
| 07:16.49 | worr | i like them, anyway |
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| 07:16.57 | arezey | loves msn pages |
| 07:17.01 | arezey | wtf? man pages! |
| 07:17.05 | KineticBug | omg |
| 07:17.07 | KineticBug | MSN lover! |
| 07:17.13 | arezey | freaking typo |
| 07:17.20 | Rizy | debian 5 isn't finding bigmem package any ideas guys? |
| 07:18.03 | arezey | but they could use something that could send you directly to a section => wouldn't have to scroll so much to find something |
| 07:18.16 | worr | didn't info pages try and do that? |
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| 07:18.26 | worr | info pages tried to do a lot of cool things |
| 07:18.52 | worr | but few things actually have info pages, and I find them more of a pain to go through |
| 07:19.01 | worr | also, there is always search |
| 07:19.03 | arezey | yeah |
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| 07:20.15 | Killabeez2 | ehh simple question, why is the [Tab] key not predicting in the terminal? |
| 07:20.38 | worr | what shell are you using? |
| 07:20.56 | worr | type in 'echo $SHELL' if you're unsure |
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| 07:21.32 | kunal | worr- a small question- "/etc/network/interfaces" this is a specific fold address right? |
| 07:21.45 | kenboo | hmm my auto-complete for bash stopped working since sometime back |
| 07:21.54 | worr | fold address? |
| 07:22.06 | kunal | folder |
| 07:22.17 | worr | yeah, that points to a file |
| 07:22.22 | worr | and it should already exist |
| 07:22.41 | kunal | ok. and the stanza are commands right? |
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| 07:22.46 | kunal | how do i test to see if this file actually exits? |
| 07:22.59 | maddash | what do i need to do for my modifications to /etc/hosts.deny to take effect? |
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| 07:23.02 | worr | try and view it in less |
| 07:23.10 | worr | less /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 07:23.27 | Boohbah | maddash: restart xinetd |
| 07:23.31 | Killabeez2 | /bin/bash worr |
| 07:23.33 | Rizy | how do i get all my apt packages to work on a fresh install as they aren't ? |
| 07:23.38 | kunal | worr? less? |
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| 07:23.59 | worr | its a program to view files |
| 07:24.03 | worr | but not edit them |
| 07:24.15 | worr | Killabeez2: hmm...weird... |
| 07:24.17 | kenboo | I thought hosts.deny is what tcpd concerns about. not xinetd. |
| 07:24.18 | kjs | do i have to rebuild the aliasdb on postfix in the same way i would with sendmail ? I have redirected root email to my email address. |
| 07:24.22 | kunal | -su less: command not found - any idea why? |
| 07:24.24 | maddash | nvm |
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| 07:24.40 | worr | kunal: maybe you don't have it installed? try more |
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| 07:24.55 | kunal | ah sweet |
| 07:25.01 | kunal | worked :) |
| 07:25.08 | Natilous | Hi all, any one can help to install a LanAccounting server ? |
| 07:25.21 | batcoder-7 | what is a good alarm clock ? |
| 07:25.34 | worr | batcoder-7: at |
| 07:25.39 | kenboo | kjs: newaliases? |
| 07:25.40 | batcoder-7 | huh? |
| 07:25.47 | batcoder-7 | like play a mp3 or something |
| 07:25.59 | worr | batcoder-7: are you looking for a GUI alarm clock? cause I use at as a cli alarm clock |
| 07:26.14 | batcoder-7 | cli is fine just need to use mp3 heh |
| 07:26.34 | worr | batcoder-7: what media player do you have installed? |
| 07:26.49 | batcoder-7 | vlc? |
| 07:26.56 | worr | ok, that works |
| 07:27.37 | worr | create a file that contains 'vlc /path/to/mp3/you/want/played' |
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| 07:27.57 | maddash | what about /etc/hosts? how do I get it to take effect after an update? |
| 07:28.12 | worr | then run the command 'at -f /path/to/file/you/created 4:00pm' |
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| 07:28.22 | kenboo | maddash: it takes effect immediately |
| 07:28.23 | worr | except sub out 4:00pm with the time you want |
| 07:28.44 | maddash | kenboo: thanks |
| 07:29.01 | worr | Killabeez2: I have no idea, I'm sorry... |
| 07:29.09 | Killabeez2 | worr, no prob i figured it =) |
| 07:29.15 | worr | Killabeez2: what was it? |
| 07:29.33 | Killabeez2 | worr - not sure used a different terminal and it works fine |
| 07:29.45 | worr | batcoder-7: if you wanna see what jobs you have scheduled, run atq |
| 07:29.54 | worr | Killabeez2: ok, weird |
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| 07:30.29 | Killabeez2 | worr, I am working on this tho - sudo apt-get install module-assistant fglrx-driver fglrx-kernel-src.. getting E: couldn't find package? |
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| 07:30.52 | worr | ok, there's an easier way to do that |
| 07:30.55 | Killabeez2 | worr, in lenny, they've renamed fglrx-kernel-src to fglrx-source but changing the name isn't working either |
| 07:30.59 | worr | but first, did you enable the non-free repo? |
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| 07:31.12 | Killabeez2 | worr Nope... |
| 07:31.19 | worr | then you should go do that :) |
| 07:31.26 | worr | edit your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 07:31.42 | worr | and add non-free and contrib to the end of your main repo lines |
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| 07:32.10 | worr | ex: http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian lenny main contrib non-free |
| 07:32.15 | worr | then do an aptitude update |
| 07:32.30 | worr | batcoder-7: how's at working out for you? |
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| 07:32.40 | nsadmin | radeonfb wouldn't work for him? |
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| 07:32.49 | nsadmin | err wrong one, |
| 07:32.53 | nsadmin | radeonhd |
| 07:33.11 | worr | radeonhd? |
| 07:33.37 | nsadmin | I thought I heard that radeonhd would work with earlier cards to produce 3e |
| 07:33.41 | nsadmin | 3d |
| 07:33.58 | worr | I dunno, I've never heard of that |
| 07:34.13 | worr | it must be newish, cause I never encountered anything like that when I owned a radeon card |
| 07:34.22 | nsadmin | oh well, never mind then... carry on :) |
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| 07:34.47 | worr | I'm looking it up anyway |
| 07:34.53 | Killabeez2 | worr, add that to all repos? |
| 07:34.59 | Killabeez2 | worr, in that file? |
| 07:35.14 | worr | not the security ones, just the main debian ones |
| 07:35.47 | kunal | hello nsadmin |
| 07:35.57 | nsadmin | hi :) |
| 07:36.06 | kunal | :) how are you doing? |
| 07:36.17 | kunal | it was very fun talking to you several hours ago... |
| 07:36.34 | nsadmin | tired... I'm about to hit the hay in the sack |
| 07:36.35 | worr | wait, Killabeez2 add it to the security ones too |
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| 07:36.43 | worr | forgot the security team supports that now |
| 07:36.48 | kunal | well go. hit the sack |
| 07:36.52 | Killabeez2 | worr, gimme a sec, my VI is doing some funky stuff gonna reinstall vim |
| 07:37.05 | worr | yeah, Debian doesn't actually give you real vim |
| 07:37.08 | worr | it gives you tiny vim |
| 07:37.14 | worr | it's kinda weird |
| 07:37.27 | nsadmin | kunal: I'm glad you had fun! |
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| 07:38.50 | kunal | yes. very much. now i am waiting for you to hit the sacks. |
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| 07:39.10 | kenboo | I removed nvi and installed vim today. nvi truncates files when a file contains multi-byte characters and LANG disagrees with the file. pretty weird. |
| 07:39.48 | karsten | !@#$%^&*&() kernel upgrade borked my evdo card. Device apparently has changed from /dev/ttyACM0 to ... well, I don't know what |
| 07:39.55 | nsadmin | I'm gonna hit em soon! |
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| 07:40.06 | kunal | run nsadmin. run! please.... |
| 07:40.10 | nsadmin | maybe one more tetris... |
| 07:40.20 | karsten | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:40.33 | nsadmin | looks at the sack... |
| 07:40.57 | nsadmin | sees if there are multiple sacks.... |
| 07:41.43 | kunal | nsadmin- once you are out of this channel things get a little peaceful here. |
| 07:42.14 | nsadmin | oh, we can't have that! not at all! |
| 07:42.21 | d-b | kunal: that's ubuntu |
| 07:42.24 | d-b | karsten: * |
| 07:42.48 | Killabeez2 | worr, so like this- deb http://ftp.gtlib.gatech.edu/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free |
| 07:42.51 | kunal | d-b: thanks :) |
| 07:42.58 | worr | yeah |
| 07:43.01 | karsten | d-b: Point. |
| 07:43.11 | worr | also add that the the deb-src lines and the security repos too |
| 07:43.13 | karsten | had forgotten that detail :-) |
| 07:43.17 | karsten | Sorry |
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| 07:44.20 | Killabeez2 | worr, ok done |
| 07:44.26 | worr | do an aptitude update |
| 07:45.07 | Killabeez2 | worr, done |
| 07:45.15 | worr | ok, what we did is we added the contrib and non-free repos |
| 07:45.35 | Killabeez2 | so cool |
| 07:45.53 | nsadmin | lurklurks playing solitaire |
| 07:45.56 | worr | non-free is software that doesn't meet debian's strict free software guidelines |
| 07:46.02 | worr | contrib is software that depends on that |
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| 07:46.13 | worr | and by that I mean non-free software or data |
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| 07:46.22 | worr | but anyway, we wanna install module-assistant |
| 07:46.29 | worr | so do an aptitude install module-assistant |
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| 07:46.51 | kunal | ok worr- all the ip values in the more /etc/network/interfaces looks fine i think now i'll to ping |
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| 07:47.05 | Killabeez2 | worr thanks worr |
| 07:47.11 | worr | before you do that, do ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0 |
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| 07:47.16 | kunal | oh ok s |
| 07:47.17 | kunal | sorry |
| 07:47.22 | worr | that was too kunal |
| 07:47.33 | kunal | that was too ? |
| 07:47.37 | worr | Killabeez2: we're not done yet! |
| 07:47.46 | solars | okay, so now I've got a shitload of errors about files need .conf, due to that module-init-tools bug, can anyone please tell me how I get my machine to boot again without hanging? |
| 07:47.50 | Killabeez2 | worr, heh aight |
| 07:47.52 | worr | kunal: the ifdown ifup was too you |
| 07:48.00 | Killabeez2 | worr i guess you know im trying to install my ATI driver then? |
| 07:48.07 | worr | Killabeez2: yeah |
| 07:48.11 | bai_ | what is the maximum number of UIDs/GIDs allowed in debian? |
| 07:48.15 | karsten | d-b: Yeah, I usually run Debian but installed Ubuntu on this laptop, which I'm still regretting. |
| 07:48.25 | karsten | bai_: Lots. |
| 07:48.28 | bai_ | 65536 or more? |
| 07:48.36 | karsten | bai_: 2^32 or so, I think |
| 07:48.37 | worr | Killabeez2: module-assistant makes compiling modules easier |
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| 07:48.44 | bai_ | oh, sup, woot |
| 07:48.51 | karsten | erm, 2^16 I mean |
| 07:48.59 | bai_ | a lot anyways :-) |
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| 07:49.02 | worr | Killabeez2: after module-assistant is done installing, do m-a prepare |
| 07:49.14 | f1y | Hi. |
| 07:49.21 | worr | Killabeez2: this will download packages that are required for buildin kernel modulkes |
| 07:49.39 | Killabeez2 | worr, done |
| 07:49.50 | worr | the prepare step too? |
| 07:49.54 | Killabeez2 | worr, aye |
| 07:50.08 | worr | ok, then do m-a a-i fglrx |
| 07:50.32 | worr | that tells module-assistant to fetch the source package, and then build against your kernel, and then install it |
| 07:50.56 | Killabeez2 | worr wow that was quick for compiling a kernel |
| 07:51.05 | Killabeez2 | worr 64x at its finest? |
| 07:51.18 | kunal | worr- my subnet is suppose to be 255.255.254.0 butt he DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 255.255.255.255 prt 67 interval 4 |
| 07:51.20 | karsten | notes that Linux supports 32-bit UIDs. |
| 07:51.32 | kunal | i think that needs to get reconfigured |
| 07:51.34 | karsten | Roughly 4.3 billion users per system then. |
| 07:51.38 | worr | kunal: you forgot to change something |
| 07:51.42 | karsten | http://www.itc.virginia.edu/unixsys/sec/nfs-uids.html |
| 07:51.48 | worr | kunal: check the iface line of the interface you're changing |
| 07:51.54 | kunal | ok |
| 07:51.55 | worr | kunal: it should look like: |
| 07:52.04 | worr | kunal: iface eth- inet static |
| 07:52.10 | kunal | alright |
| 07:52.14 | worr | kunal: that is, if eth0 is the interface you're using |
| 07:52.24 | worr | Killabeez2: its not a kernl, it's a module for your kernel |
| 07:52.35 | worr | Killabeez2: but yeah, that was pretty quick |
| 07:52.38 | worr | Killabeez2: no errors? |
| 07:52.43 | karsten | d-b: ... and I solved my evdo issue, needed to reload usbserial w/ some pooptions. |
| 07:52.47 | kunal | worr- mine is not static, its dhcp |
| 07:52.50 | Killabeez2 | worr, none |
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| 07:53.36 | worr | kunal: are you modifying eth0? or a different interface? |
| 07:53.47 | worr | kunal: my apologies, I just assumed eth0 |
| 07:54.17 | kunal | yes. i am bodying eth0 |
| 07:54.22 | kunal | modifying eth0 |
| 07:54.44 | worr | kunal: send what you have right now, leave out the lo stanza |
| 07:54.52 | bolt-wor1 | bodies eth0 |
| 07:54.54 | bolt-wor1 | mmm |
| 07:55.22 | kunal | i a modifying via nano /etc/network/interfaces |
| 07:55.29 | kunal | i am |
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| 07:55.39 | worr | Killabeez2: install fglrx-control if it isn't installed |
| 07:55.40 | kunal | or maybe i am doing something wrong. |
| 07:56.18 | worr | kunal: it should be something like: |
| 07:56.25 | worr | iface eth0 inet static |
| 07:56.29 | Killabeez2 | worr k done |
| 07:56.46 | worr | address your.ip.here.blah |
| 07:57.02 | worr | subnet 255.255.254.0 |
| 07:57.09 | kunal | yes its like that in my nano file. |
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| 07:57.14 | worr | gateway your.gateway.ip.here |
| 07:57.31 | kunal | excpet for my inet, its dhcp there not static |
| 07:57.35 | kunal | should it be static? |
| 07:58.13 | worr | kunal: yeah! it should be static |
| 07:58.17 | kunal | ok thanks! |
| 07:58.18 | kunal | finally |
| 07:58.20 | kunal | sorry. |
| 07:59.02 | worr | Killabeez2: now run aticonfig |
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| 07:59.07 | worr | and then restart |
| 07:59.12 | worr | *restart X |
| 07:59.26 | Killabeez2 | aticonfig --initial |
| 07:59.28 | Killabeez2 | ? |
| 07:59.31 | worr | kunal: don't worry, it's ok :) |
| 07:59.42 | kunal | restart with the up down command? |
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| 07:59.45 | JogL | hi |
| 07:59.48 | worr | Killabeez2: yeah |
| 07:59.49 | kunal | eth0 down and up? |
| 07:59.57 | worr | kunal: yeah, do the ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0 |
| 08:00.00 | worr | then try ping |
| 08:00.03 | kunal | ok |
| 08:00.19 | Killabeez2 | hmmm restart x with ctrl-alt-backspace |
| 08:00.22 | JogL | Checking `bindshell'... INFECTED (PORTS: 3049) - this is some false alarm right? |
| 08:00.23 | Killabeez2 | im not sure the combo |
| 08:00.28 | kunal | what! - it says ifdown: interface eth0 not configured |
| 08:00.30 | kunal | hmm. |
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| 08:00.57 | worr | no, that's fin |
| 08:01.00 | worr | *fine |
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| 08:01.02 | kunal | ok |
| 08:01.04 | worr | do an ifconfig |
| 08:01.14 | worr | does eth0 have the ip you set? |
| 08:01.23 | kunal | -suL ifconfig: command not ofund |
| 08:01.29 | kunal | found |
| 08:02.01 | worr | ...seriously? wow |
| 08:02.07 | kunal | yup... |
| 08:02.11 | worr | then do: |
| 08:02.16 | worr | ip addr show eth0 |
| 08:02.26 | worr | does that show the ip you set? |
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| 08:02.39 | kunal | nope. |
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| 08:02.42 | kunal | only |
| 08:02.55 | kunal | inet 192.168.0.24 |
| 08:03.27 | Killabeez | worr 1920x1080 in all its glory |
| 08:03.32 | Killabeez | worr, YTMND |
| 08:03.39 | worr | Killabeez: awesome, glad I could help |
| 08:03.44 | kunal | BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP is all there |
| 08:03.51 | worr | kunal: hmm...that isn't the IP you wanted? |
| 08:04.04 | kunal | but no values. |
| 08:04.29 | kunal | the ip which i wanted was 10.10.211.196 |
| 08:04.30 | Killabeez | worr so let me pick your brain on this for a second, I installed the ATI drivers to work with X |
| 08:04.36 | Killabeez | worr, is that correct? |
| 08:05.19 | worr | kunal: I'm guessing you're behind a router, right? |
| 08:05.33 | worr | Killabeez: yeah, that's about right |
| 08:05.50 | Killabeez | worr and gnome runs ontop of X ? gnome can't function without it ? |
| 08:05.59 | haroot | Killabeez, yah |
| 08:06.01 | worr | Killabeez: yeah |
| 08:06.16 | haroot | Killabeez, u can run it on Windows but u still need CygwinX |
| 08:06.18 | haroot | which is still X |
| 08:06.24 | kunal | worr- no direct cable connection |
| 08:06.31 | haroot | and u might be able to run it in OSX never tried, still need x |
| 08:06.38 | Killabeez | haroot, so is gnome a "window manager" ? |
| 08:06.45 | worr | Killabeez: not quite |
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| 08:06.51 | haroot | Killabeez, no |
| 08:06.55 | worr | Killabeez: gnome is a desktop environment |
| 08:06.59 | haroot | Killabeez, its a desktop suite |
| 08:07.02 | worr | Killabeez: it includes a window manager |
| 08:07.08 | worr | Killabeez: it uses metacity |
| 08:07.15 | worr | Killabeez: that's the window manager |
| 08:07.15 | haroot | Killabeez, mostly gnome-panel and gnome-* Nautilus for file manager |
| 08:07.26 | worr | Killabeez: it also includes other programs on top of that to make it more useful |
| 08:07.28 | haroot | Killabeez, u can use any window manager with gnome |
| 08:07.29 | Killabeez | worr, so what is fluxbox - a desktop environment? does fluxbox run ontop of X like gnome? |
| 08:07.41 | worr | Killabeez: flux is a window manager |
| 08:07.43 | haroot | Killabeez, gnome used to use sawmill aka sawfish |
| 08:07.46 | worr | and yeah it does |
| 08:08.14 | haroot | Killabeez, fluxbox is really awesome and fast I used to use it, now I use gnome or xfce cause of sheer cpu power i have |
| 08:08.14 | worr | anyway, kunal it sounds like your gateway is doing NAT |
| 08:08.16 | haroot | and gpu |
| 08:08.34 | kunal | right worr- how to proceed? |
| 08:08.35 | worr | kunal: so you might have to set it up to use a 10. instead of a 192.168. |
| 08:08.43 | kunal | yes |
| 08:08.56 | Killabeez | haroot, is gnome configurable like fluxbox? |
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| 08:09.01 | worr | kunal: I'm guessing your default gateway is something like 192.168.0.1? |
| 08:09.13 | kunal | my gateway is 10.10.210.1 |
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| 08:09.37 | haroot | Killabeez, easier |
| 08:09.38 | haroot | way easier |
| 08:09.40 | twb | !apt-key A20376BEC03C56DF |
| 08:09.40 | dpkg | gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys A20376BEC03C56DF ; gpg --export A20376BEC03C56DF | sudo apt-key add - |
| 08:09.49 | worr | Killabeez: also, really really bloated |
| 08:09.50 | twb | WTF, he wouldn't /msg me that response |
| 08:09.56 | worr | Killabeez: flux is really lightweight and fast |
| 08:10.14 | worr | kunal: weird... |
| 08:10.18 | haroot | agreed |
| 08:10.24 | haroot | it works so well with debian |
| 08:10.34 | kunal | worr- welcome to india. everything here is wierd |
| 08:10.36 | haroot | i used to use Windowmaker back in the day |
| 08:10.41 | haroot | cause everthing else was ugly |
| 08:10.45 | haroot | and slow |
| 08:10.48 | d-b | haroot: rofl. |
| 08:10.51 | worr | kunal: this is a home network? |
| 08:10.57 | kunal | yes. home. |
| 08:11.02 | worr | Killabeez: personally, I don't like gnome or flux |
| 08:11.13 | worr | Killabeez: I use dwm, mostly cause it is pretty awesome |
| 08:11.26 | worr | Killabeez: but it's not awesome, it's what awesome is based off of |
| 08:11.31 | worr | Killabeez: that's how awesome it is |
| 08:11.37 | Killabeez | that sounds awesome |
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| 08:11.54 | worr | Killabeez: it's not though, it's just like awesome because awesome is based off of it |
| 08:12.03 | worr | Killabeez: hint: awesome is also a window manager |
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| 08:12.07 | Killabeez | i smell you |
| 08:12.25 | worr | Killabeez: both dwm and awesome do something called tiling |
| 08:12.29 | worr | Killabeez: which is amazing |
| 08:12.47 | kunal | my ip is pointing to 10.10.211.196 , subgateway 255.255.254.0 gateway 10.10.210.1 DNS1 is 172.31.6.5 DNS2. 172.31.6.125 . |
| 08:12.53 | kunal | all i want to do is load these values. |
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| 08:13.10 | worr | kunal: yeah, that should've worked |
| 08:13.16 | worr | kunal: you did do an ifup eth0, right? |
| 08:13.32 | worr | wait, yeah do an ifup eth0 |
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| 08:14.04 | Killabeez | worr, this box is for work and play i dual boot xp for my games ... at work im prob ssh into around 20 boxes at a time watching top and doing other shit - also I need a webrowser open to reply to tickets, look at screen caps ect. |
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| 08:14.04 | worr | I messed up, I forgot bash was short-circuits :) |
| 08:14.04 | Killabeez | worr, so im using debian for work and i want it badass |
| 08:14.19 | worr | Killabeez: badass like compiz? or badass like terms EVERYWHERE |
| 08:14.25 | worr | Killabeez: cause I perfer the latter |
| 08:14.27 | elik | worr, that awesome thing was nice :P |
| 08:14.33 | worr | Killabeez: my ONLY GUI program is opera |
| 08:14.44 | worr | elik: Thanks :) |
| 08:14.47 | Killabeez | worr, nono badass like 20 ssh sessions going, my desktop looking like the matrix badass |
| 08:15.00 | Killabeez | worr, i could careless if my windows burn up when i minimize |
| 08:15.00 | worr | Killabeez: then play around with awesome |
| 08:15.25 | Killabeez | worr, but i dont know, that compiz cube all over youtube is kinda cool |
| 08:15.34 | worr | Killabeez: it automatically tiles everything, barely uses the mouse, and it's really good for organized terminal work |
| 08:15.52 | kunal | hmmmf- unknown host. |
| 08:16.10 | kunal | where do i configure all these details - in the nano /etc/interfaces? |
| 08:16.16 | Killabeez | gnome can be themed like other desktops, right? |
| 08:16.23 | worr | kunal: no, /etc/network/interfaces |
| 08:16.26 | worr | Killabeez: yeah |
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| 08:17.11 | Killabeez | haroot, do you theme your gnome environment? got a screenshot i can gawk at? |
| 08:17.17 | kunal | so i type nano /etc/network/interfaces |
| 08:17.18 | kunal | right? |
| 08:17.20 | kunal | and edit it there? |
| 08:17.21 | worr | Killabeez: seriously though, for ultimate terminal badassery, use awesome and urxvt |
| 08:17.25 | worr | kunal: yeah |
| 08:17.27 | Natilous | hi, anyone can help me to run a LanAccounting server .. |
| 08:17.36 | kunal | ok. thanks |
| 08:17.38 | Killabeez | worr, its called 'awesome'? |
| 08:17.48 | worr | Killabeez: yes, and that right there is a feature |
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| 08:18.06 | haroot | Killabeez, not at the moment |
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| 08:18.15 | haroot | I mainly use osx and default ubuntu 8.10 themes |
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| 08:18.21 | haroot | but my friend did make a nice theme |
| 08:18.39 | icenine | is there a particular reason why I can't use newgrp to change groups unless I set a group password on that group? for security? |
| 08:18.52 | haroot | if u wanna see my osx desktop its on osnews |
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| 08:19.23 | Killabeez | worr, i dunno if you click links but this looks badass to my eyes - http://dev.gentoo.org/~dirtyepic/misc/lj/urxvt-irssi.png |
| 08:19.41 | kunal | ah maybe because i am mssing a broadcast |
| 08:20.34 | kunal | also how do i know if reslolvconf package is instaled? |
| 08:20.44 | worr | Killabeez: lolol I'm using urxvt and irssi right now |
| 08:21.11 | worr | kunal: dpkg --list| grep resolvconf |
| 08:21.24 | worr | kunal: if it's there and has two i's before it, then it is installed |
| 08:22.04 | worr | Killabeez: I don't choose to do transparency or a desktop background though |
| 08:22.20 | worr | Killabeez: I can post a screenshot somewhere if you want |
| 08:22.42 | Killabeez | worr, please do |
| 08:22.59 | kunal | worr- how did you make that line after list? |
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| 08:23.06 | kunal | that stright line |
| 08:23.17 | Killabeez | that line is called a pipe |
| 08:23.23 | Killabeez | above the enter key |
| 08:23.24 | kunal | yeah how do it? |
| 08:23.26 | icenine | there is a key |
| 08:23.31 | Killabeez | where backslash |
| 08:23.31 | worr | kunal: it's a pipe, it should be the backslash character shifted. |
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| 08:23.39 | kunal | oh ok |
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| 08:23.51 | worr | Killabeez: gimme a minute :) |
| 08:24.00 | Killabeez | kunal, that pipe can do wicked cool things |
| 08:24.14 | kunal | i can imagine :)...like? |
| 08:24.17 | worr | http://www.csh.rit.edu/~worr/dwm.jpg |
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| 08:24.42 | worr | kunal: take the output of one command, and use it as the input of another |
| 08:24.49 | worr | Killabeez: that link I posted is the image |
| 08:25.25 | Killabeez | nice |
| 08:25.26 | worr | Killabeez: also, forgot to censor my buddy list lololol |
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| 08:26.03 | Killabeez | worr, so irssi is to the right, does it run in terminal? |
| 08:26.05 | kunal | nope |
| 08:26.06 | worr | Killabeez: but yeah, the tags up at the top are far cooler than desktops |
| 08:26.08 | kunal | it lacks the 2 lines. |
| 08:26.13 | worr | Killabeez: yeah |
| 08:26.17 | kunal | so i dont have tthe grep resolvconf. |
| 08:26.21 | Killabeez | worr, what terminal are you using? |
| 08:26.32 | worr | urxvtcd |
| 08:26.38 | Killabeez | worr, ok |
| 08:26.41 | worr | kunal: then do aptitude search resolvconf |
| 08:26.50 | worr | Killabeez: its in the package rxvt-unicode |
| 08:26.52 | Killabeez | worr, does iirs do messengers also? |
| 08:27.02 | worr | Killabeez: urxvtcd is really cool cause it is client daemon |
| 08:27.04 | Killabeez | irssi |
| 08:27.11 | worr | Killabeez: finch, below that does mmessengers |
| 08:27.25 | worr | Killabeez: I have my AIM, MSN, ICQ, and Yahoo on that |
| 08:27.27 | Killabeez | worr, xmpp? |
| 08:27.37 | worr | Killabeez: it uses the same backend as Pidgin |
| 08:27.41 | Killabeez | worr, nice |
| 08:27.43 | worr | Killabeez: yeah, probably |
| 08:27.52 | kunal | worr- i did that and it did nothing |
| 08:28.03 | worr | Killabeez: my rss reader, newsbeuter is above it |
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| 08:28.24 | worr | kunal: ...it didn't bring up anything? |
| 08:28.28 | kunal | nope. |
| 08:29.21 | worr | kunal: try an aptitude update |
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| 08:29.21 | kunal | ok |
| 08:29.21 | worr | kunal: then do aptitude search resolvconf again |
| 08:29.21 | worr | kunal: how fresh is this install? |
| 08:29.21 | kunal | ok connecting |
| 08:29.22 | kunal | connecting to security.debian.org |
| 08:29.24 | kunal | 0% |
| 08:29.30 | kunal | just yesterday. |
| 08:29.35 | worr | kunal: I don't need all the output :) |
| 08:29.40 | kunal | got via netinst. |
| 08:30.03 | kunal | well obviously it wont be able to downloading anything as my network isnt installed. |
| 08:30.11 | worr | kunal: oh, yeah, that's an issue |
| 08:30.15 | worr | kunal: forgot :) |
| 08:30.16 | kunal | yes |
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| 08:30.33 | kunal | :) haha. happens. |
| 08:30.40 | kunal | back to step 1. |
| 08:30.50 | kunal | how else can we do it? can i go and download a program |
| 08:30.56 | kunal | and then use a thumbdrive or CD? |
| 08:31.09 | kunal | and install the resolvconf? |
| 08:31.34 | worr | kunal: yeah...why can't you use DHCP, any reason? Cause if that will give you a network connection so you can install packages... |
| 08:31.55 | worr | Killabeez: urxvtcd is awesome, cause it starts a terminal daemon when you first run it |
| 08:32.14 | Killabeez | worr, dude irssi is awesome they have a OTR plugin for it |
| 08:32.26 | worr | Killabeez: and then each subsequent call starts a client that runs a new terminal session through the daemon |
| 08:32.35 | Killabeez | worr, whats the difference between the snaptics package manager and the system->add remove applications? |
| 08:32.52 | worr | Killabeez: the system thing really abstracts the packages |
| 08:32.56 | Killabeez | worr, terminal daemon? like screen? |
| 08:33.04 | worr | Killabeez: not quite |
| 08:33.27 | worr | Killabeez: each new session is a new terminal session, and they can't interact with each other |
| 08:33.38 | worr | Killabeez: and each one is a separate xterm |
| 08:33.50 | worr | Killabeez: to the end user, it just looks like you're starting up a new terminal |
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| 08:34.06 | worr | Killabeez: but it's faster and uses less memory than normal xterms or gnome-terms |
| 08:34.34 | worr | Killabeez: unfortunately, if the daemon dies, then ALL clients die |
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| 08:34.34 | worr | Killabeez: but that doesn't happen really ever |
| 08:34.44 | worr | Killabeez: at least, it never has on this machine |
| 08:34.55 | Killabeez | worr, i used snaptic to install irssi, does it put a "shortcut" somewhere on the desktop or in the apps menu? |
| 08:35.05 | sauvin | Internet. |
| 08:35.22 | sauvin | You can call irssi from a term, and that may be best. |
| 08:35.31 | worr | Killabeez: not with every package...if it did it would probably be under the Debian submenu somewhere |
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| 08:35.42 | worr | Killabeez: but yeah, you wanna run it froma term |
| 08:35.51 | worr | Killabeez: cause...well...it runs in a term. |
| 08:36.04 | Killabeez | worr, true |
| 08:36.17 | Killabeez | worr, installing the urxvtcd term right now |
| 08:36.33 | worr | Killabeez: awesome |
| 08:36.42 | worr | Killabeez: it won't use that right away though |
| 08:36.51 | Killabeez | irssi you can theme the colors, or do you do that threw the term? |
| 08:36.53 | worr | Killabeez: you gotta set your default term to urxvtcd |
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| 08:37.13 | worr | Killabeez: if you can do it, you do it through irssi |
| 08:37.20 | worr | Killabeez: I never cared for theming it |
| 08:37.24 | worr | Killabeez: but anyway |
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| 08:37.44 | Killabeez | worr, im all about colors, transparencies and shit like that =P |
| 08:37.50 | worr | Killabeez: if you wanna set urxvtcd as your default term, you should do update-alternatives --config x-terminal-emulator |
| 08:38.03 | worr | Killabeez: transparency is through the terminal |
| 08:38.22 | worr | Killabeez: check the man pages for that :) |
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| 08:38.42 | Killabeez | worr, hmm snaptics not finding the urxvtcd |
| 08:38.59 | worr | Killabeez: I told you, the package is rxvt-unicode |
| 08:39.10 | worr | Killabeez: a lighterweight version is rxvt-unicode-lite |
| 08:39.17 | worr | Killabeez: LP |
| 08:39.19 | worr | *:P |
| 08:39.29 | worr | kunal: I hate to do this, but I have classes tomorrow |
| 08:39.29 | Killabeez | ahh must have missed that |
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| 08:39.46 | worr | kunal: sorry I couldn't help more |
| 08:39.56 | worr | night guys |
| 08:40.08 | kunal | worr- its ok |
| 08:40.18 | kunal | really appreciate all your hlp tho. |
| 08:40.23 | worr | kunal: anytime |
| 08:40.25 | kunal | atleast it got me somewhere :) |
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| 08:40.29 | kunal | thanks alot . |
| 08:40.35 | allikat | anyone skilled with CUPS and HPLIP on Debian 5 around who can help me out with an issue? |
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| 08:40.46 | Killabeez | worr, later |
| 08:41.00 | kunal | worr, see you later. bye :) |
| 08:42.17 | allikat | I installed my HP printer with HPLIP, and it shows up in CUPS when viewed in Webmin, but I can't see it remotely |
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| 08:46.01 | cahoot_ | allikat: you have enabled printer sharing in cupsd.conf on the server? |
| 08:46.10 | allikat | just checking |
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| 08:48.08 | khaije1 | is backports pretty well regarded? considered stable and reliable? |
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| 08:50.38 | kunal | does anyone know how to install GUI interface manually? |
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| 08:50.55 | kunal | i get any updates off the internet as my ethernet connection is scrwed. |
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| 08:53.27 | khaije1 | kunal: you have many gui's to choose from. you should decide on this first |
| 08:54.15 | Vonoff | am using lenny on my sparc and got a problem with nfs. when starting nfs-common it says statd failed, in syslog i get this message: /var/log/syslog:Mar 11 09:27:32 deimos rpc.statd[3710]: unable to register (statd, 1, udp). |
| 08:54.20 | Vonoff | can anyone help? |
| 08:54.23 | kunal | khaije1- so its possible to get a GUI installed manually via a CD? |
| 08:54.36 | kunal | because my internet connection is scrwed up. |
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| 08:55.44 | kunal | khaije1- i am looking to get a gnome gui |
| 08:57.29 | kunal | anyone here for help? |
| 08:57.39 | khaije1 | in that case you can use apt-get install gnome |
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| 09:00.54 | kunal | khaije1- i cant download anything off the internet |
| 09:01.05 | kunal | my internet connection is blocked |
| 09:01.39 | et | kunal: you're downloading irc messages right now |
| 09:01.49 | kunal | et- another machine. |
| 09:02.32 | kunal | i want to download the GUI and then install it on my other computer instead of downlaoding one off the ineternet as the internet configuration is very hard on it. |
| 09:03.30 | khaije1 | kunal: it's possible to install software such as gnome from cd, you just have to make sure you have the right cd |
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| 09:03.50 | allikat | thanks cahoot_ that did it |
| 09:03.54 | kunal | khaije1- how do i know if i have the right CD :S |
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| 09:09.57 | kunal | i repeat, will the real slimshady stand up. |
| 09:10.13 | kunal | may i have your attention please. |
| 09:10.20 | kunal | may i have your attention please. |
| 09:10.29 | kunal | we are gonna have a problem here |
| 09:10.47 | kunal | jaws all over the flow, wooping your ass. oh wait. he didnt say . did he. and dr.dre said? |
| 09:11.04 | kunal | hahahaha. i am bored and need help |
| 09:11.04 | siyb | get lost |
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| 09:11.17 | kunal | siyb- you dont tell me to get lost. |
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| 09:11.24 | kunal | you get lost 1st. |
| 09:11.31 | kunal | then i will. |
| 09:11.40 | kunal | i am the real slimshady. |
| 09:11.47 | siyb | well then ask your question or shut the hell up, I had enough of spaming kiddies |
| 09:12.17 | kunal | siyb- thanks. how do install a genom GUI via CD? |
| 09:12.22 | kunal | gnome* |
| 09:12.55 | siyb | what cd, netinstall? |
| 09:13.04 | kunal | yeah |
| 09:13.14 | siyb | did you already install debian? |
| 09:13.16 | kunal | my internet connection inst working. |
| 09:13.29 | kunal | i did do the mininal netinst instllation and have a CMD interface. |
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| 09:14.15 | siyb | afaik you need a network connection in order to be able to install gnome from the netinstall cd, as it's not included |
| 09:14.37 | kunal | is there any other way? to manually install? |
| 09:14.42 | siyb | btw how are you able to chat if your network connection is broken |
| 09:14.50 | kunal | this is my other connection. |
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| 09:15.07 | kunal | i cant configure my connection on the eth0 |
| 09:15.28 | kunal | its too complicated my ip address has to point to 10.10.211.196 |
| 09:15.30 | siyb | ok, well you could download the full install images and add the cd as an apt source |
| 09:15.48 | siyb | kunal: what's complicated about that |
| 09:15.54 | siyb | you got a static IP? |
| 09:16.01 | kunal | no one seems to understand how to do it. no i think its DHCP connection |
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| 09:16.33 | kunal | i have gone to nano etc/network/interface to configure it. |
| 09:16.39 | kunal | and yet i cant get things working. |
| 09:16.45 | siyb | kunal: what exactly doesn't work, is your nic broken |
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| 09:17.45 | siyb | drivers? |
| 09:17.56 | kunal | siyb- i am unable to configure it properly :( i just dont know. i dont even know if my rsolve.conf works. my driver is fine |
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| 09:18.22 | kunal | its just pointing the connection |
| 09:18.51 | kunal | thats the problem. pointing the internet connection the right direction |
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| 09:19.01 | jelly | kunal: pastebin your current /etc/network/interfaces |
| 09:19.26 | kunal | pastebin? |
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| 09:20.01 | kunal | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:20.20 | kunal | this is what i get when i enter the file |
| 09:20.29 | kunal | iface eth0 inet dhcp |
| 09:21.00 | jelly | !paste |
| 09:21.00 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! |
| 09:21.14 | kunal | ok sorry. |
| 09:21.17 | siyb | kunal: your interface is configured to use dhcp |
| 09:21.29 | siyb | do you need to configure a static ip |
| 09:21.35 | jelly | kunal: that's a configuration file. pastebin the contents. |
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| 09:21.44 | kunal | ok. i will paste it. |
| 09:21.51 | szonek | hi |
| 09:21.59 | szonek | is anyone here using open-iscsi? |
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| 09:22.43 | xoz | ls |
| 09:22.44 | xoz | ps ax |
| 09:22.47 | xoz | oops |
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| 09:25.12 | Fox_1_ | hi all |
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| 09:25.32 | Fox_1_ | people does MTU 1456 is ok for VPN connection? |
| 09:26.07 | Fox_1_ | on kvpnc I set it 1500, but after connection ifconfig says that it's 1456 |
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| 09:26.54 | Fox_1_ | I couldn't open any file by vim, from server by which I have connected via vpn |
| 09:27.11 | dios_mio | try joe |
| 09:28.19 | kunal | ok jelly and siyb- http://paste.debian.net/30325/ this is how it looks. |
| 09:28.41 | xoz | Fox_1_: try export TERM=xterm |
| 09:28.43 | kunal | and yes my connection is dhcp based. |
| 09:30.04 | Fox_1_ | xoz: doesn't help |
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| 09:30.23 | Fox_1_ | I couldn't do dir too :) it's hanging :) |
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| 09:31.26 | kunal | siyb |
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| 09:31.49 | xoz | Fox_1_: perhaps you can be more detailed what is the error message? |
| 09:32.03 | xoz | Fox_1_: we cannot guess if you have not much information |
| 09:32.32 | Fox_1_ | no error message just when I type vim or mc it's shows black screen |
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| 09:33.06 | Fox_1_ | also for example I typed "ps aux", it's shows 3 lines and then stoped |
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| 09:33.15 | Fox_1_ | but the connection is ok |
| 09:34.39 | dios_mio | fosco, also ask in #networking |
| 09:35.06 | dios_mio | and in #linux |
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| 09:36.48 | anddam | hi |
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| 09:37.40 | kunal | hi |
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| 09:45.57 | anddam | asking here as well: at http://free3d.org I see my very same computer, PPC 7447a 1Ghz, reports more thank 2k fps with glxgears, mine gives about 900 |
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| 09:46.31 | anddam | I set up same options as reported there, AccelMethod, GARTSize, PageFlip, and the video driver I'm using is radeon as well |
| 09:46.44 | anddam | what else should I check to improve acceleration? |
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| 09:51.57 | szonek | is anyone here using open-iscsi? |
| 09:52.49 | buffoon_work | anddam, I don't really remember why but I remember that glxgears isn't that good for comparing 3D performance, just if there is any acceleration. Maybe you should compare with a different program |
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| 09:53.49 | e7th04sh | Hi, i would like to setup myself an e-mail system on my debian, for educational purposes. I decided it should be postfix. The problem is, i can't remove exim4, that i installed first during system installation, with netinst CD. When i use apt-get to do that, it only wants to remove the "exim4" package, leaving all the dependencies installed. |
| 09:55.29 | anddam | buffoon_work: there's a disclaimer about that, glxgears just happens to be broadly available |
| 09:55.49 | anddam | buffoon_work: anyway I would exepect that the same computer with similar config had similar output |
| 09:56.41 | anddam | I'll give the ati driver a chance |
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| 10:00.27 | mhymn | e7th04sh: 'exim4-base' ? |
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| 10:00.41 | FlyingFoX | i accidentally installed gnome as desktop environment instead of kde on a fresh install. how do i remove gnome now? |
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| 10:01.37 | hark | e7th04sh: install postfix |
| 10:01.49 | a133x | FlyingFoX, just terminate the gdm, and do "sudo apt-get remove gnome", that should work |
| 10:02.03 | hark | FlyingFoX: you can try /msg dpkg remove gnome |
| 10:02.07 | liable | !remove gnome |
| 10:02.07 | dpkg | To remove or purge GNOME 1.x, do: aptitude remove libgnome32 libgnome2-common (use purge instead of remove if that's what you want). For GNOME 2.x, use aptitude remove libgnome2-* libbonobo2-* liborbit2* libgnomeui* libgnomevfs2-* (or use purge accordingly). |
| 10:02.08 | e7th04sh | mhymn, i use apt-get --purge remove exim4, and it leaves all the rest installed |
| 10:02.11 | liable | oops |
| 10:02.31 | e7th04sh | FlyingFoX, don't, leave gnome ^^ |
| 10:02.32 | FlyingFoX | hey nice bot :) thx |
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| 10:03.36 | mhymn | e7th04sh: 'cos exim4 is a metapackage dude |
| 10:04.14 | e7th04sh | well, yes it is, but when i remove it, i thought that what it depended on will be removed too, since nothing else depends on it... obviously, tough, something does |
| 10:04.40 | e7th04sh | wow |
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| 10:04.57 | e7th04sh | when i install postfix, it automatically removes all exim related stuff xD |
| 10:05.08 | e7th04sh | that's not really what i expected, but cool anyways |
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| 10:06.00 | RSD | Hi guys, does anyone know how i can get debian to find my network info out? Like renogtiate with the link or something? |
| 10:06.54 | hark | e7th04sh: you could also have done an apt-get autoremove or just used aptitude |
| 10:07.51 | Dirrk | RSD: What kind of network info would you like to find out? |
| 10:08.01 | RSD | well my ip |
| 10:08.03 | RSD | gateway etc |
| 10:08.07 | RSD | i want it to find that out |
| 10:08.10 | RSD | as ifconfig does not show anything |
| 10:08.16 | e7th04sh | thank you harkl |
| 10:08.20 | e7th04sh | hark* |
| 10:08.31 | Dirrk | RSD: What does ifconfig say when you try? |
| 10:09.09 | RSD | hold on |
| 10:09.32 | RSD | just shows loopback |
| 10:09.42 | RSD | no config for the network interface by the looks of it |
| 10:09.58 | Dirrk | RSD: Stupid questions: Is the network enabled in the first place? |
| 10:10.07 | RSD | should be |
| 10:10.11 | RSD | is it |
| 10:10.13 | RSD | ifup ? |
| 10:10.57 | RSD | ifup -a does not work |
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| 10:11.02 | RSD | how do i know which eth do we have |
| 10:11.42 | mhymn | how do you know the network is enabled? |
| 10:11.51 | RSD | im not sure i havent disbaled it |
| 10:11.54 | RSD | how do i enable it? |
| 10:12.02 | RSD | how do i know if its |
| 10:12.05 | RSD | eth0 or eth1 ? |
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| 10:12.27 | Dirrk | RSD: What does cat /proc/net/dev tell you? |
| 10:12.51 | RSD | want me to type "cat /proc/net/dev" ? |
| 10:12.57 | Dirrk | RSD: Yes, as root. |
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| 10:13.32 | Dirrk | RSD: It should tell you the devices in the first column. |
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| 10:13.47 | RSD | no such file or directory |
| 10:13.58 | hark | RSD: /sbin/ifconfig -a |
| 10:14.27 | RSD | eth0 |
| 10:14.27 | RSD | perfect |
| 10:14.34 | RSD | so i need to activae eth0 and tell it to scan for net connection? |
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| 10:15.49 | RSD | ifconfig eth0 inet up is correct? |
| 10:16.16 | RSD | but how do i assign it IP netmask etc so it can connect to the correct network? |
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| 10:16.31 | mhymn | man ifconfig |
| 10:16.58 | RSD | ok it has workd |
| 10:17.06 | RSD | when i do ifconfig eth0 inet up |
| 10:17.10 | RSD | but i still cant see ip info etc |
| 10:17.15 | RSD | how do i go about getting to do that? |
| 10:17.31 | liable | run dhclient |
| 10:17.56 | RSD | you mean dhcp client? |
| 10:18.17 | milligan | dhcpclient, which is named dhclient in debian |
| 10:18.22 | RSD | ahh ok |
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| 10:18.29 | RSD | how do i run that? im very new still learning |
| 10:18.42 | milligan | as root, dhclient eth0 |
| 10:18.52 | milligan | that means, "do a dhcp request on eth0" |
| 10:19.03 | RSD | got it |
| 10:19.05 | RSD | i just typed in |
| 10:19.07 | RSD | dhclient and it works! |
| 10:19.10 | RSD | Thank you SOOOO MUCH! |
| 10:19.12 | RSD | THANK YOU! |
| 10:19.24 | milligan | Now, as root, type: ifconfig ... that will tell you your ip, netmask, etc etc. |
| 10:19.45 | milligan | if you type "route" as root, it will tell you your gateway and where packages are traveling. |
| 10:19.52 | milligan | s/packages/packets |
| 10:20.05 | RSD | thank you! |
| 10:20.06 | RSD | its all working |
| 10:20.09 | RSD | thanks again! |
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| 10:20.59 | Dirrk | Ok, what I wanted to ask: I'm having trouble booting a Samsung NC20 netbook via pxelinux (with the image from the netboot installer). tftp loads files until vesamenu.c32, then the notebook reboots. I can see no error message. Any advice how to figure out what exactly goes wrong? |
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| 10:22.53 | dergringo | Can anyone confirm that the munin(-node) package on etch is faulty? There are some permission issues with user munin and folder /var/run/munin/* |
| 10:23.51 | dob1 | if someone use xrdp, the connection is encrypted ? seems yes but just to be sure |
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| 10:28.16 | aixenv | dergringo : we use munin all the time with no issues |
| 10:28.35 | aixenv | other than the fact it scales horribly, no issues atleast |
| 10:28.50 | dergringo | aixenv, hmmmmmm. ok thanks. |
| 10:29.45 | dergringo | aixenv, could you lookup if user munin has write access to the files in folder /var/run/munin/ ? |
| 10:29.51 | aixenv | sure one sec |
| 10:30.06 | aixenv | gotta hop in a sever |
| 10:30.10 | aixenv | *server |
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| 10:30.40 | picco | Hi, I have some problems with my burner - k3b seems not to like /dev/hda device where the burner is, it says that no burning device was deteced. I can mount it, but not use for burning. Could anyone help? Yes, and I use lenny. |
| 10:30.43 | dergringo | When I run munin-cron as user munin I get errors like this: Error writing to /var/run/munin/munin-update.lock, wrong permissions at /usr/share/perl5/Munin.pm line 356. |
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| 10:31.26 | aixenv | dergringo : /var/run/munins is munin.root |
| 10:31.32 | aixenv | 755 |
| 10:31.48 | picco | Hi, I have some problems with my burner - k3b seems not to like /dev/hda device where the burner is, it says that no burning device was deteced. I can mount it, but not use for burning. Could anyone help? Yes, and I use lenny. |
| 10:31.55 | picco | sorry for posting twice |
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| 10:32.05 | dergringo | aixenv, thank you. I had to chown manually since the files were root:root |
| 10:32.14 | aixenv | all the files inside are munin.munin except munin-node.pid which is root.root |
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| 10:32.41 | aixenv | dergringo : mighta been a step in the install procedure, we've just been packaging it for a while lemme check our docs |
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| 10:33.39 | dergringo | aixenv, thank you |
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| 10:34.31 | aixenv | dergringo : sorry dont see anything related to that |
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| 10:34.41 | aixenv | is it working now though? |
| 10:35.29 | dergringo | aixenv, I did a chown -R munin /var/run/munin/ and it seems to work fine now. Will have to wait a few minutes. |
| 10:35.34 | mf_417 | hi, is there any solution to manage user's bandwith over vpn? I mean max width + max monthly download limit |
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| 10:39.29 | dergringo | aixenv, Yes it's working :) Except for the apache plugins: 2009/03/11-11:35:03 Plugin "apache_processes" exited with status 512. -- |
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| 10:41.42 | rdz | hi all. in order to use the command badblocks, i seem to need to specify the blocksize. but how can i know the blocksize? is there a command that is able to display it? |
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| 10:48.00 | julzmb | if i want a 1 package from the "testing" branch but my debian is in "stable" branch how do i tell apt that? |
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| 10:51.46 | dergringo | julzmb, apt-get -t testing install ... |
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| 11:03.32 | e7th04sh | Hi, me again. The tutorial that i am following in order to setup mail service on my Debian, says i should check contents of some files. Let's say i have IP A.B.C.D, and registered subdomain on dyndns, that is foo.ath.cx. The file /atc/hostname, according to tutorial, should contain only host name. It says "foo" - is that correct? /etc/mailname should contain full name, and so it does - "foo.ath.cx". |
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| 11:04.17 | e7th04sh | Now, i am behind the router - and my local ip, let's say X.X.X.X shows up in /etc/hosts - is this all right? |
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| 11:05.10 | petemc | e7th04sh: do you plan on sending mail directly with this setup? |
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| 11:05.29 | e7th04sh | as you see, i am a newbie, and don;t really understand what exactly you mean :/ sorry |
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| 11:06.05 | petemc | e7th04sh: do you plan on sending out email to other mail servers, or do you plan to send it via your isps mail server? |
| 11:06.17 | e7th04sh | i want a direct way |
| 11:06.45 | petemc | you'll probably find that lots of people dont accept mail from you |
| 11:06.45 | e7th04sh | why is it so? |
| 11:07.08 | nareshov | your isp should've allowed your ip to send mail globally too. |
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| 11:07.23 | petemc | becuase email coming directly from residential isp ips is usually spam from virus infected windows machines |
| 11:07.38 | petemc | so people treat it as such |
| 11:07.38 | Zyferus | DNSBL listed |
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| 11:08.13 | julzmb | dergringo, thankyou!!!! |
| 11:08.26 | e7th04sh | nareshov, what do you mean exactly? My ip is static, seen worlwide, so what my ISP has to do? |
| 11:08.32 | dergringo | julzmb, np |
| 11:08.47 | e7th04sh | petemc, any fix for that problem? |
| 11:09.10 | petemc | e7th04sh: route your mail through a server on a more reputable address |
| 11:09.43 | e7th04sh | but i can receive mail normally, right? |
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| 11:10.09 | petemc | yes |
| 11:10.31 | mcella | are these the right lines for sources.list under lenny? do I need other things? |
| 11:10.34 | mcella | deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free |
| 11:10.34 | mcella | deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free |
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| 11:13.21 | aixenv | more often than not you wont be able to use port 25 to send mail |
| 11:13.22 | e7th04sh | The tutorial i am following (http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-etch/#step-1-installing-the-needed-debian-packages) tells me to run "http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-etch/#step-1-installing-the-needed-debian-packages" and then "aptitude update"... Is that really what i should do? It might be outdated information. |
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| 11:13.48 | e7th04sh | aixenv i have a static ip, i can use any port i want, i think |
| 11:13.57 | aixenv | that matters not |
| 11:13.57 | e7th04sh | but you might be right, however that's unlikely |
| 11:14.03 | aixenv | who is your isP? |
| 11:14.05 | aixenv | anyone big? |
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| 11:14.23 | e7th04sh | they do my whole city, and it's ~700k people living here |
| 11:14.37 | aixenv | lots of the bigger isp dont allow ppl to use 25, as someone earlier said, it just ends up being spam from unsecured or uninformed home users |
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| 11:15.03 | aixenv | we have a work around for some ppl to use our email service on port 2525 |
| 11:15.21 | aixenv | some endusers, cant use our smtp w/o doing that, due to their isp only allowing use of their own smtp on 25 |
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| 11:15.45 | e7th04sh | well, i suppose that it gets filtered by most improtant receiving mail servers, however i don't think my isp is blocking port 25 on out |
| 11:16.01 | e7th04sh | but it's worth checking, true |
| 11:16.10 | aixenv | yea just run a telnet localhost check |
| 11:16.20 | aixenv | send mail and see if it gets sent |
| 11:16.28 | aixenv | like to yahoo or some other place |
| 11:16.47 | e7th04sh | i'll just use some service form the outside, that check ports for being opened |
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| 11:17.00 | e7th04sh | i used it to check port forwarding on router |
| 11:17.04 | aixenv | naw it doesnt work that way |
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| 11:17.15 | e7th04sh | umm |
| 11:17.17 | aixenv | they can do it with ACLs etc |
| 11:17.25 | e7th04sh | what's ACL? |
| 11:17.31 | aixenv | the only way to viably test is do a telnet localhost 25 from your server |
| 11:17.59 | e7th04sh | oh, you're right i guess |
| 11:18.06 | aixenv | HELO foo / MAIL FROM : blah balh / RCPT TO blah blah / Subject testing / DATA / foobar blah blah blah / enter / . |
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| 11:18.35 | e7th04sh | whom should i connect to then? |
| 11:18.36 | aixenv | if it queues up, and then u receive it at say e7th04sh@gmail.com then you have your answer |
| 11:18.46 | petemc | swaks makes that process easier |
| 11:18.58 | aixenv | petemc: but this teachs the basic understanding :) |
| 11:19.37 | aixenv | e7th04sh : acl = access control list , router/cisco stuff to deny /allow etc |
| 11:20.09 | e7th04sh | oh |
| 11:21.54 | sylarrr | hello |
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| 11:22.39 | sylarrr | is it possible to boot from a HD that has a wrong /dev/sdx in fstab? |
| 11:22.54 | sylarrr | I have /dev/sdd1 |
| 11:23.01 | aixenv | why not just adjust it? |
| 11:23.09 | sylarrr | I can't boot it |
| 11:23.16 | aixenv | use a recovery cd |
| 11:23.22 | sylarrr | it hangs on mount filesystem |
| 11:23.27 | sylarrr | aha |
| 11:23.28 | aixenv | mount the root partition and modify your fstab |
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| 11:23.45 | sylarrr | and what about initrd isn't the fstab there too |
| 11:23.47 | sylarrr | ? |
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| 11:24.17 | aixenv | well how did your fstab get wrong in the first place? |
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| 11:24.29 | sylarrr | I cloned the HD |
| 11:24.44 | sylarrr | and in its original computer it is sdd1 |
| 11:24.52 | sylarrr | and now it is probably sda1 |
| 11:24.56 | paxcoder | hey, does anyone know where Gedit temporary files are? I need to recover something if possible, but I haven't saved it, so it's not in some specific dir. |
| 11:25.09 | sylarrr | because there are less disks now |
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| 11:25.27 | aixenv | slyarr: yea just edit your fstab manually after booting a recovery cd you'll be all set |
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| 11:25.48 | sylarrr | aixenv, ok, I am gona try that now |
| 11:25.54 | aixenv | ok |
| 11:26.34 | aixenv | paxcoder: did you specify in the options to do that? |
| 11:26.52 | paxcoder | aixenv: i'm using default |
| 11:26.58 | paxcoder | i think |
| 11:27.02 | aixenv | its like gedit -> edit -> preferences -> editor -> create backups w/o saving |
| 11:27.27 | aixenv | actually it's "create backups before saving" but u get the drift |
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| 11:28.08 | paxcoder | "create a backup copy of files before saving" |
| 11:28.10 | paxcoder | that's checked |
| 11:28.15 | aixenv | pax: my files are in /tmp |
| 11:28.27 | paxcoder | but "autosave files every x minutes" is unchecked |
| 11:28.30 | aixenv | pax . like i have /tmp/gedit.aixenv.1761353035 for example |
| 11:29.04 | paxcoder | cat: /tmp/gedit-svn.user.601663691: No such device or address |
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| 11:29.31 | paxcoder | aixenv: ? |
| 11:29.50 | aixenv | pax: a quick google found ~/.pre.gedittemp |
| 11:29.50 | paxcoder | that's not it anyway. i think. |
| 11:29.53 | aixenv | is where it saves them |
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| 11:30.26 | aixenv | beyond that i dont use gedit much for critical docs |
| 11:30.26 | paxcoder | aixenv: don't have that. |
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| 11:30.33 | aixenv | that stinks |
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| 11:30.48 | paxcoder | i think i'll check autosave as well now :-( |
| 11:30.49 | aixenv | you could do a find on your whole system and look for a string in that file perhaps |
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| 11:31.01 | aixenv | more likely than not tho, its gone |
| 11:31.20 | paxcoder | but if i check autosave |
| 11:31.31 | paxcoder | then it's going to overwrite files i don't want to overwrite |
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| 11:31.40 | paxcoder | it's not backup, it's saving, isn't it? |
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| 11:31.45 | e7th04sh | so i connected to smtp.mail.yahoo.co.uk, and after MAIL FROM i got 530 - authentication required |
| 11:31.55 | aixenv | no e7th u got it backwards |
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| 11:32.03 | e7th04sh | xD |
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| 11:32.10 | sylarrr | aixenv, my recovery cd is too old for this new computer |
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| 11:32.15 | aixenv | you are doing 'telnet localhost 25' ; *your local smtp server to send mail testing your local smtp server* |
| 11:32.25 | e7th04sh | argh :P |
| 11:32.30 | aixenv | one sec e7th |
| 11:32.46 | e7th04sh | well, then i guess i have to set it all up first, then check if it can work - i thought there's some way to do it |
| 11:32.51 | e7th04sh | before |
| 11:33.26 | aixenv | http://www.activexperts.com/activemail/telnet/ |
| 11:33.27 | aixenv | read that |
| 11:33.44 | aixenv | e7th it should work out of the box for localhost sending |
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| 11:35.56 | keith4 | is /etc/alternatives a debian-specific thing? |
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| 11:36.08 | abrotman | a debian-based specific thing AFAIK |
| 11:36.20 | keith4 | wow. what do the rest of the poor slobs out there do? |
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| 11:36.29 | aixenv | keith: its in ubuntu also, but it's mostly debian |
| 11:36.49 | abrotman | hence .. debian-based .. |
| 11:36.57 | paxcoder | ungh |
| 11:37.00 | abrotman | keith4: SYMLINK MADNESS! |
| 11:37.01 | aixenv | yea i know i saw that :) |
| 11:37.13 | keith4 | abrotman: ew! |
| 11:37.19 | keith4 | i almost feel sorry for 'em |
| 11:37.22 | abrotman | keith4: honestly, not sure .. ask #fedora what they do |
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| 11:39.23 | keith4 | abrotman: hmmm. looks like CentOS has /etc/alternatives too |
| 11:39.29 | abrotman | ok |
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| 11:43.17 | FlyingFoX1 | how do i make aptitude understand things like "libgnome2-*" which should stand for several packages beginning with this term? |
| 11:43.47 | FlyingFoX1 | if i just type that it says couldn't find package libgnome2-* |
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| 11:49.08 | mettallicat | can anyone help-me builing a encrypted FS in debian |
| 11:49.27 | aixenv | this is really weird how postfix wont install on lenny preseed |
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| 11:49.55 | aixenv | im thinking of grabbing all the dep deb's and then trying to build it that way |
| 11:49.56 | kevin_taff | hello |
| 11:49.56 | mettallicat | aixenv, yeah that is anoying! |
| 11:50.22 | aixenv | my searches for where it is, seemed to specify it living on cd4 which makes no sense |
| 11:50.31 | kevin_taff | can anyone know if i can reinstall debian 64 using debootstrap from a 32b debian install? |
| 11:50.45 | valdyn | aixenv: packages are sorted by popularity |
| 11:50.48 | valdyn | aixenv: simple as that |
| 11:50.54 | kevin_taff | debootsrap still download & extract packages, so i can't chroot to the new system |
| 11:50.56 | aixenv | valdyn: postfix is rather popular.. wouldnt you say? |
| 11:51.20 | valdyn | aixenv: i would say that most people do not care to change the default mta |
| 11:51.37 | aixenv | eh we do, postfix is better than exim :) |
| 11:51.48 | aixenv | for our purposes atleast |
| 11:52.00 | valdyn | aixenv: sure, so use it.. |
| 11:52.04 | aixenv | its just curious how i could install on preseed for etch and not lenny |
| 11:52.18 | aixenv | causing me to have to find all the *.deb deps and add those to my preseed cd |
| 11:52.19 | petemc | ill bite - what makes it better? |
| 11:52.25 | kevin_taff | <aixenv> eh we do, postfix is better than exim :) <----- O_O |
| 11:53.18 | valdyn | im totally clueless, i never saw a reason to try postfix |
| 11:54.03 | aixenv | petemc: no need to debate something like that, no benefit gained, ppl use what they use, not like anyone would switch, it does the trick for us |
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| 11:54.22 | petemc | aixenv: perhaps you shouldnt make such comments then |
| 11:54.36 | petemc | aixenv: postfix is inferior to exim in terms of find grained control of incoming mail |
| 11:54.48 | aixenv | petemc: i was simply stating my opinion |
| 11:54.54 | petemc | nothing comes close to exim in that regard, tho exims queue handling is lacking |
| 11:54.57 | aixenv | based on all the testing we've done postfix is faster |
| 11:54.59 | solars | hey, I've got that problem telling me to rename all files into .conf in modprobe.d, and can't boot, I only get initramfs where I cannot rename the files permanantly. can anyone give me a hint how to fix this? |
| 11:55.14 | petemc | s/find/fine/ |
| 11:55.15 | valdyn | solars: ignore what warning |
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| 11:55.38 | valdyn | solars: is that not in the changelog? |
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| 11:55.43 | solars | valdyn, I cannot boot since the upgrade |
| 11:55.53 | solars | valdyn, how do you mean? |
| 11:56.04 | valdyn | solars: the modprobe.d warning has *nothing* to do with your boot failure |
| 11:56.17 | solars | I don't get any other messages |
| 11:56.45 | valdyn | solars: whatever, that warning doesnt tell you it was an error |
| 11:56.58 | Dirrk | AndyTim: Sorry, there was no answer for a long time, and after that I was away. |
| 11:57.00 | valdyn | solars: it talks about depreciation or somesuch, and its also just a warning |
| 11:57.09 | solars | yeah, that's why I'm asking |
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| 11:58.39 | zer0c00l | hi room we are having a machine with intel xenon processor with 8Gb ram which version (architecture ) of debain will be suitable for that machine? amb64? |
| 11:58.45 | zer0c00l | *amd64? |
| 11:58.47 | Illarane | grumbles. |
| 11:58.54 | e7th04sh | when i install things on my debian, it often says that destination is unverified |
| 11:59.03 | Illarane | I'm assuming 4.0r7 isn't supposed to get stuck at 48% on unpacking the base system? |
| 11:59.06 | e7th04sh | like now, i am installing mysql, and most new packages are unverified |
| 11:59.25 | Illarane | is attempting to install Etch on a VirtualBox vm to test Zend Server. |
| 11:59.28 | e7th04sh | is that normal? |
| 11:59.46 | e7th04sh | cause i get the warning that it's a security threat |
| 12:00.03 | nima0102 | zer0c00l: yes, I have set up debian with the same hardware |
| 12:00.20 | nima0102 | zer0c00l:Xenon 64-bit :) |
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| 12:01.18 | dob1 | i am trying to setup vnc4server (i used before vncserver package that is no longer available on lenny) but now, same config, when i start from the console vncserver the server start but when i connect to it is see only a kde console in left-corner and i can't do nothing, why this? |
| 12:01.38 | zer0c00l | nima0102: so should i download amd64? will it work with intel processors? |
| 12:01.51 | dob1 | seems that it doesn't start the kde desktop |
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| 12:03.58 | valdyn | dob1: vncserver or vncserver all use ~/.vnc/xstartup, like you normall would use ~/.xsession |
| 12:04.25 | dob1 | valdyn: i use .xinitcr |
| 12:04.31 | valdyn | dob1: same deal |
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| 12:05.36 | dob1 | valdyn: no i don't have any .xinitrc or .xsession, what i have to put to start kde ? starkde, right? |
| 12:05.55 | valdyn | dergringo: "exec startkde" i think |
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| 12:06.02 | valdyn | dob1: ^^ |
| 12:06.06 | dergringo | :) |
| 12:06.17 | valdyn | dergringo: sorry =/ |
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| 12:06.34 | dergringo | valdyn, will keep that in mind for a looooooooong time :P |
| 12:07.21 | arvind_khadri | hi, when i plugin my mobile , i get that it cant be mounted, i had changed some settings , its because of that, how do i revert it? |
| 12:07.40 | valdyn | !8ball arvind_khadri |
| 12:07.41 | dpkg | Please ask again. |
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| 12:09.14 | arvind_khadri | valdyn, :) ok, see i plugin my mobile , so that i can use the memory card of the phone, but few days back, as i was unable to do read and write in it, i changed some of permissions, like set the mount point, using the GUI, after that its not getting mounted, an error pops up |
| 12:09.44 | valdyn | arvind_khadri: so revert your changes |
| 12:09.45 | Vonoff | erm, usually apt does have supercow powers. my apt doesn't have supercow powers, does this make any difference? |
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| 12:09.49 | valdyn | arvind_khadri: i can hardly know what you changed |
| 12:10.10 | valdyn | Vonoff: sure |
| 12:10.12 | arvind_khadri | valdyn, thats what am not able to change, as the thing doesnt get mounted |
| 12:10.20 | dob1 | valdyn: now it works, but i am looking at the old file xstartup, in the new one i just put exec startkde, it is enough? or i need other things? |
| 12:10.25 | Vonoff | valdyn, elaborate please |
| 12:10.44 | valdyn | arvind_khadri: oh, you changed permissions on the drive, thats irrelevant then |
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| 12:11.15 | adc__ | is there a sparc channel? |
| 12:11.18 | valdyn | dob1: dont need anything else |
| 12:11.22 | adc__ | < adc__> hello, my resolution on an ultra5 won't go above 800x600 |
| 12:11.22 | adc__ | 17:31 < adc__> i have the proper modes in xorg.conf |
| 12:11.22 | adc__ | 17:31 < adc__> any ideas? |
| 12:11.31 | sylarrr | aixenv, how do I make a rescue disk? |
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| 12:12.00 | hampusw | When I run compiz (on sid, the problem recently appeared) the three buttons to the right on the title bar on every window look weird. They get some strange space between them. Works fine with metacity (I'm running gnome). Anyone know how to fix this? |
| 12:12.03 | arvind_khadri | valdyn, the error i get is mount point cant contain the following characters , newline, G_DIR_SEPARATOR |
| 12:12.31 | valdyn | arvind_khadri: very well, so you need to fix that mount point |
| 12:12.41 | valdyn | arvind_khadri: i dont know where you edited that, probably /etc/fstab |
| 12:12.41 | arvind_khadri | valdyn, how do i do that? |
| 12:13.12 | arvind_khadri | valdyn, no i used the GUI, like i right clicked, but now i cant do that again, as its not mounting at all |
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| 12:13.28 | valdyn | arvind_khadri: which GUI? |
| 12:13.51 | huwenfeng | hi, i want to execute some command when the computer starts, and i put these command in /etc/rc.local. but they did not execute! why? |
| 12:13.51 | arvind_khadri | valdyn, right click thingy |
| 12:13.58 | valdyn | arvind_khadri: gnome? kde? |
| 12:14.08 | arvind_khadri | huwenfeng, commands like? |
| 12:14.13 | arvind_khadri | valdyn, gnome |
| 12:14.13 | huwenfeng | /sbin/route |
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| 12:14.27 | huwenfeng | arvind_khadri: i want to set my route table manually at boot time. |
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| 12:14.36 | valdyn | arvind_khadri: i dont get it entirely, dry changing the label: dosfslabel /dev/whatever |
| 12:14.40 | huwenfeng | arvind_khadri: so i put /sbin/route in /etc/rc.local |
| 12:14.43 | edenroz | nsadmin, helo my hero! |
| 12:14.51 | arvind_khadri | huwenfeng, i guess you need to put sudo before that... |
| 12:15.01 | huwenfeng | no, i am using debian |
| 12:15.02 | arvind_khadri | valdyn, just a sec |
| 12:15.10 | dob1 | valdyn: related to this, you know xrdp ? the connection is encrypted? |
| 12:15.12 | valdyn | arvind_khadri: no he does not |
| 12:15.15 | edenroz | helo all |
| 12:15.22 | huwenfeng | ls |
| 12:15.44 | valdyn | dob1: you mean xrdb |
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| 12:16.08 | dob1 | valdyn: xrdp |
| 12:16.16 | arvind_khadri | valdyn, cant find dosfslabel |
| 12:16.24 | arvind_khadri | !find dosfslabel |
| 12:16.32 | valdyn | dob1: its a different protocol than vnc |
| 12:16.54 | edenroz | nsadmin, i talekd with ex sysadmin, he use iptools with a script for set the route and make wrong IP calcs, thanks again for yestarday |
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| 12:17.12 | valdyn | dob1: i dont know if there even is an rdp server for debian |
| 12:17.48 | petemc | there is, but its a bollocks to set up |
| 12:17.56 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'dosfslabel' (2): (/sbin/dosfslabel) in otherosfs/dosfstools ;; (/usr/lib/debug/sbin/dosfslabel) in devel/dosfstools-dbg. |
| 12:17.56 | valdyn | arvind_khadri: in dosfstools |
| 12:18.02 | dob1 | valdyn: it uses vnc al the end, it is just the login that is from the rdesktop protocol, but vnc is not encrypted itself, this is my doubt |
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| 12:18.48 | valdyn | dob1: whats the point? you want that vnc connection to be encrypted? |
| 12:19.10 | abrotman | judd: info xrdp --release lenny |
| 12:19.11 | judd | abrotman: xrdp (net): is optional; Version: 0.4.0~dfsg-9; Size: 201.5k; Installed: 612k -- Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP) server |
| 12:19.36 | valdyn | dob1: oh, xrdp is indeed a server |
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| 12:19.59 | abrotman | i think gnome/kde each have their own implementations also |
| 12:20.04 | dob1 | valdyn: on vnc server i put only the pass of the vncsession, using xrdp i use my account login and password, what my point is to know if i am sending this information in clear |
| 12:20.17 | valdyn | dob1: ok, i dont know |
| 12:20.24 | abrotman | dob1: vnc is in the clear, rdp has *light* encryption |
| 12:20.30 | abrotman | IIRC anyways |
| 12:20.44 | valdyn | !ssh tunnel |
| 12:20.45 | dpkg | ssh tunnel are known for making it appear people are root on IRC. They aren't. Don't bug them. see http://www.rzg.mpg.de/networking/tunnelling.html for more info on how to set them up |
| 12:21.08 | valdyn | dob1: or you can use ^^ to have everything encrypted |
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| 12:21.33 | arvind_khadri | valdyn, it returns no name |
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| 12:21.50 | Crystal | hi everyone |
| 12:22.04 | valdyn | arvind_khadri: i dont know if "no name" can include a newline as the error message said |
| 12:22.12 | valdyn | arvind_khadri: try setting the name and see if you can mount |
| 12:22.13 | dob1 | valdyn: i used the ssh tunnel, but login system is more simple/fast, so i was wondering about this |
| 12:22.16 | abrotman | dob1: oh .. looks like newer versions of RDP have better (128-bit) encryption |
| 12:22.20 | valdyn | arvind_khadri: i have no idea where else gnome might store the info |
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| 12:22.50 | valdyn | xrdp seems to use libssl, whatever that implies |
| 12:22.59 | dob1 | abrotman: infact i read the poor documentation, there is a crypt-level option to setup, but i don't understand to what is related |
| 12:23.04 | abrotman | dob1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VNC#Security .. says passwords are not clear text |
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| 12:24.25 | Kry89 | hi |
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| 12:25.08 | Kry89 | what does it mean? I checked on google but i did not find much |
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| 12:29.38 | Kry89 | could anyone help me ? |
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| 12:30.32 | aixenv | hey guys i need to add some debs to the iso im creating, is it as simple as putting the dpkg -I $pkg in the dists/lenny/main/binary-amd64/Packages file and then placing the *.deb in the corresponding pool/main/$foo/$pkgname/*.deb? |
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| 12:30.57 | abrotman | !tell aixenv about custom netinst |
| 12:31.17 | Kry89 | hi abrotman |
| 12:31.40 | Kry89 | i keep getting this message "kernel:[ 1395.592098] do_IRQ: 0.100 No irq handler for vector" |
| 12:31.50 | aixenv | abrotman : bottom link = dead, the other 2 dont seem to relate |
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| 12:32.09 | abrotman | you're asking how to add packages to the installer |
| 12:32.29 | Kry89 | me? o.O |
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| 12:32.46 | aixenv | abrotman : the first 2 links are related to the kernel, and the last one is dead.. so not sure how that relates |
| 12:33.17 | aixenv | actually the first like is basically worthless |
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| 12:34.44 | abrotman | take the comma off ? |
| 12:35.11 | aixenv | still didnt work |
| 12:35.17 | Kry89 | ... |
| 12:35.27 | abrotman | http://wiki.debian.org/?DebianCustomCD .. works fine here |
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| 12:35.43 | aixenv | this is actually wha ti want |
| 12:35.46 | aixenv | http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Modify/CD |
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| 12:36.26 | smacnay | Is there supposed to be a "usb" or "usbusers" group on a Deb machine that gives users rw access to usb devices? |
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| 12:40.05 | maggot_brain | I deleted my squid cache dir and now squid won't start it gives me a permission error message when trying to recreate the cache dir, squid -z doesn't help, any ideas? |
| 12:40.14 | arvind_khadri | valdyn, ok i got it to mount, but now i cant write into it |
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| 12:43.36 | arvind_khadri | abrotman, i plugged in my mobile , when it mounts it has the following options : ro nousid nodev uid=1000 fmask=0022 dmask=0022 codepage=cp437 iocharset=utf8, i cant write into it, how do i achieve it? |
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| 12:44.09 | abrotman | can you write as root? |
| 12:44.25 | arvind_khadri | abrotman, not yet tried |
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| 12:45.09 | arvind_khadri | abrotman, nope, i cant |
| 12:45.23 | arvind_khadri | abrotman, root as in using gksu nautilus |
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| 12:47.20 | abrotman | why would you try with nautilus? |
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| 12:49.45 | arvind_khadri | abrotman, then with what should i try? |
| 12:50.18 | abrotman | arvind_khadri: uname -a .. says what? |
| 12:50.43 | arvind_khadri | abrotman, Linux debian 2.6.26-1-amd64 #1 SMP Sat Jan 10 17:57:00 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 12:50.56 | abrotman | try with the terminal .. like a sane person |
| 12:51.11 | arvind_khadri | abrotman, :| ok |
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| 12:52.13 | arvind_khadri | abrotman, cp: cannot create regular file `/media/MAMATHA/MadhuraPisumaatige.mp3': Read-only file system i got this error |
| 12:52.35 | abrotman | so find out why it's read only |
| 12:52.53 | arvind_khadri | as in the settings its ro |
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| 12:56.53 | fire | hallo |
| 12:57.21 | abrotman | so you've intentionally set it to 'RO' and can't figure out why it's Read-Only ? |
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| 13:00.07 | valdyn | arvind_khadri: read /etc/fstab about this |
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| 13:02.00 | arvind_khadri | afaik external devices on mounting dont get listed under fstab |
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| 13:02.06 | arvind_khadri | valdyn, ^^^^ |
| 13:02.20 | valdyn | arvind_khadri: just have a look |
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| 13:02.33 | arvind_khadri | valdyn, i did , and i cant find it |
| 13:02.52 | valdyn | arvind_khadri: ok |
| 13:03.57 | arvind_khadri | i even changed the entries for it in mtab!!!! |
| 13:04.07 | valdyn | arvind_khadri: that would be stupid |
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| 13:04.55 | valdyn | arvind_khadri: rightclick on the gnome desktop icon -> properites -> permissions see if there's something that makes sense |
| 13:05.28 | cahoot | vfat? |
| 13:05.45 | valdyn | cahoot: gnome user interface issues |
| 13:05.54 | arvind_khadri | cahoot, ya |
| 13:06.01 | valdyn | cahoot: where gnome autmounts ro because he set it that way and cant remember how |
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| 13:06.29 | arvind_khadri | valdyn, i dint set it to ro, its been like this by dfault |
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| 13:07.00 | valdyn | arvind_khadri: it was like that from the start? |
| 13:07.32 | arvind_khadri | valdyn, ya |
| 13:07.41 | valdyn | arvind_khadri: paste the output of dmesg on a paste site |
| 13:08.16 | arvind_khadri | valdyn, just a sec |
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| 13:08.57 | arvind_khadri | valdyn, the tail of it? or the whole? |
| 13:09.04 | valdyn | arvind_khadri: whole |
| 13:09.14 | fire | I've got some stupid probs with the graphic, i can't set up the the frequenz higher configuration: 1280*1024*32Bit*66Hz, monitor can be set up to 85hz. is it possible that my Geforce 3 Ti 200 cannot set up more? Or could it be the nvidia driver? |
| 13:09.18 | edenroz | nsadmin, helo my hero! |
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| 13:09.30 | valdyn | fire: is that a crt or an lcd display? |
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| 13:09.38 | fire | crt |
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| 13:10.31 | valdyn | fire: ok, even if your monitor can go up to 85hz, does that mean it can do that at 1280*1024? how do you know? |
| 13:10.33 | arvind_khadri | valdyn, http://paste.debian.net/30343/ |
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| 13:11.06 | valdyn | arvind_khadri: the filesystem is broken, which is why its set to ro |
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| 13:11.40 | arvind_khadri | valdyn, ya i too was going through it, but it works fine under Ubuntu. |
| 13:11.54 | fire | I an kvm switch on it an in the other pc has a Geforce 8600GTS, and i can set up to 1600x1200*85hz |
| 13:12.10 | valdyn | arvind_khadri: the filesystem was broken on ubuntu too |
| 13:12.18 | valdyn | arvind_khadri: but maybe ubuntu wrote to it nevertheless |
| 13:12.28 | valdyn | arvind_khadri: ( and probably broke it more, created unrecoverable files etc ) |
| 13:12.37 | arvind_khadri | valdyn, aah ok, so how do i now correct the fs ? fsck ? |
| 13:12.50 | valdyn | arvind_khadri: any data you need on it? |
| 13:13.03 | fire | i still tried out to manipulat the xorg.conf |
| 13:13.15 | fire | directly but doesnt work |
| 13:13.18 | arvind_khadri | valdyn, ya some songs and stuff, i will copy paste them, somewhere |
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| 13:13.37 | valdyn | arvind_khadri: copy your data off, recreate partitions, mkfs.vfat |
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| 13:14.00 | arvind_khadri | valdyn, there are no partitions in it |
| 13:14.17 | valdyn | arvind_khadri: sdb1 IS a partition |
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| 13:14.36 | valdyn | arvind_khadri: or uh, the fs is straight on sdb ? |
| 13:14.48 | fire | valdyn have you an idea? |
| 13:14.48 | valdyn | arvind_khadri: ok, skip the recreate partition part |
| 13:14.54 | arvind_khadri | valdyn, ok |
| 13:15.13 | valdyn | fire: i suspect your gfx card cannot do that resolution |
| 13:15.25 | valdyn | fire: you can read the manual if it can |
| 13:15.32 | fire | okay |
| 13:15.34 | valdyn | fire: now if it can you might have to create a custom modeline |
| 13:16.08 | valdyn | fire: the display driver reads modes from the gfx card and combines those with monitor capabilities to pick available modes |
| 13:16.37 | arvind_khadri | valdyn, it wont affect the system of my mobile right? |
| 13:16.47 | valdyn | fire: sometimes that doesnt include modes that are actually possible |
| 13:16.54 | valdyn | arvind_khadri: how can i know? |
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| 13:17.02 | fire | okay |
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| 13:17.12 | valdyn | arvind_khadri: does that mobile need that filesystem to operate? |
| 13:17.21 | arvind_khadri | valdyn, nope.. |
| 13:17.37 | arvind_khadri | valdyn, its the fs of the card thats being displayed |
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| 13:17.50 | valdyn | arvind_khadri: so youre just using that mobile as an sd card reader or somesuch |
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| 13:18.26 | arvind_khadri | valdyn, as of now its acting like that... it will be better if i plug it off and use a card reader |
| 13:18.29 | arvind_khadri | valdyn, brb |
| 13:18.34 | valdyn | arvind_khadri: i cant vouch for proprietary mobile phones |
| 13:18.41 | valdyn | arvind_khadri: thats possible |
| 13:18.48 | fire | valdyn: how can i make a custom modline? |
| 13:18.53 | valdyn | !modeline |
| 13:18.54 | dpkg | methinks modeline is You can create custom modelines at http://www.hut.fi/Misc/Electronics/faq/vga2rgb/calc.html, or http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl, or use cvt or gtf, or apt-get install videogen, or modeline |
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| 13:19.09 | fire | okay forget it |
| 13:19.13 | valdyn | fire: let me see /var/log/Xorg.0.log ( paste site .. ) |
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| 13:22.11 | fire | valdyn: where should paste it in? |
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| 13:24.53 | valdyn | !paste |
| 13:24.53 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! |
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| 13:27.00 | fire | valdyn: http://paste.debian.net/30344/ |
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| 13:30.26 | valdyn | fire: try xrandr to see if a better mode is listed |
| 13:30.31 | arvind_khadri | valdyn, can gparted be used to fsck? |
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| 13:30.35 | valdyn | fire: if there isnt, then you need a custom modeline |
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| 13:30.41 | fire | okay |
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| 13:31.02 | valdyn | fire: the log gives no info about the capabilities of your nvidia card, so you might have to read its specs in the manual |
| 13:31.27 | fire | 1152x864 55.0 69.0* |
| 13:31.28 | fire | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:31.28 | fire | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:33.03 | scaldov | hi. people. I've set up XEN on debian lenny, and run two domU under it. I use custom setup for network (derived from vif-route). There are extra four interfaces: vif0.0 vif 1.0 tap0 tap1 |
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| 13:33.53 | scaldov | I've figure out that all networking is based on tap0/tap1. but for what good vif*.* are? |
| 13:33.58 | lxsameer | is there any way to reinstall a package with its dependencies |
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| 13:34.26 | valdyn | lxsameer: whats the point? |
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| 13:34.52 | valdyn | lxsameer: reinstalling libc6 is always dangerous |
| 13:35.05 | lxsameer | valdyn: i want do only download those . |
| 13:35.08 | valdyn | lxsameer: and that is a dependency for everything |
| 13:35.13 | rvsjoen | trying to install python-matplotlib, and someone whines about 'pycentral pkginstall: not overwriting local files' is there any way to make it force the overwrite ? |
| 13:35.23 | valdyn | lxsameer: oh, still creating your repo |
| 13:35.26 | rvsjoen | the configuration of the packages fail |
| 13:35.27 | lxsameer | valdyn: i want to build a small repository. |
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| 13:35.30 | mark___ | how do i remove a volume /dev/md1 from an lvm group when vgreduce says its in use? |
| 13:35.35 | lxsameer | valdyn: yeah |
| 13:35.43 | arvind_khadri | valdyn, i set it up, but now only root can write into it |
| 13:35.49 | fire | valdyn: thx |
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| 13:36.29 | valdyn | arvind_khadri: nonsense |
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| 13:36.33 | valdyn | arvind_khadri: what did you do? |
| 13:36.49 | Akuw | i am reading this grui http://www.debian.org/international/spanish/notas |
| 13:36.57 | arvind_khadri | valdyn, :) i did fsck.vfat :D |
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| 13:37.08 | Akuw | but openoffice translate font with fuente |
| 13:37.10 | rvsjoen | mark___: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/removepvsfromvg.html |
| 13:37.13 | valdyn | arvind_khadri: ok, that does not change permissions |
| 13:37.25 | rvsjoen | mark___: you can find the answer to most questions in the lvm howto |
| 13:37.39 | arvind_khadri | valdyn, ya, so how do i do that? |
| 13:37.51 | valdyn | mark___: pvmove is what you want |
| 13:37.57 | valdyn | mark___: read the docs carefully |
| 13:38.23 | valdyn | arvind_khadri: plug it out, plug it in, should mount as ever |
| 13:38.49 | lxsameer | valdyn: do you have any idea? |
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| 13:38.56 | valdyn | lxsameer: no |
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| 13:40.10 | arvind_khadri | valdyn, it again switched back to ro :( |
| 13:40.11 | steven_ | what are the pro's/con's of using allow-hotplug/auto in interfaces ? |
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| 13:40.52 | adc__ | i'm on lenny and i can't change my monitor's resolution |
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| 13:41.09 | valdyn | lxsameer: use the apt-rdepends tool, parse the output to do what you want |
| 13:41.13 | adc__ | i have the corrected modes for say 1024x768 but it stays at 800x600 |
| 13:41.30 | valdyn | lxsameer: http://www.debianadmin.com/recursively-lists-package-dependencies-using-apt-rdepends.html |
| 13:41.43 | rvsjoen | adc__: how do you try to change the resolution, and are you using the correct driver for the display adapter ? |
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| 13:42.46 | valdyn | arvind_khadri: i told you to recreate the fs |
| 13:42.54 | adc__ | rvsjoen: i have the sis vga driver and i'm trying to change them with modes in xorg.conf |
| 13:42.57 | lxsameer | valdyn: thansk |
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| 13:43.15 | valdyn | arvind_khadri: fsck mmight not catch and probably cannot fix what a broken fs like yours does |
| 13:44.15 | valdyn | steven_: its different things, but on bootup they both accomplish the same |
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| 13:44.22 | rvsjoen | adc__: does it have randr extension ? does 'xrandr' do anything ? |
| 13:44.52 | steven_ | valdyn: i knw :) i just always set it to auto for servers, as not sure what hotplug actually does in practice |
| 13:45.01 | valdyn | steven_: but if you do an "ifdown -a" or /etc/init.d/networking restart, interfaces with just allow-hotplug are obviously not hotplugged and not affected |
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| 13:45.07 | adc__ | rvsjoen: xrandr has some modes and it tops at 800x600 which is selected |
| 13:45.12 | valdyn | steven_: ifdown -a should have said ifup -a |
| 13:45.21 | steven_ | valdyn: ah |
| 13:45.29 | adc__ | rvsjoen: how do i check if it has the randr extension? |
| 13:45.31 | likwid_- | anyone know why my debian server reboots once it reaches 355 days of uptime. 2 yrs running now. no crons and such to do it |
| 13:45.38 | likwid_- | er 365 |
| 13:45.47 | rvsjoen | adc__: if your screen shows up in xrandr it has |
| 13:46.03 | chomwitt | in the 'password and encryption keys' app (aka seahorse) in preferences there is only a pgp keys tab. is there a way to save ssh tabs? |
| 13:46.11 | steven_ | likwid_-: thats not normal |
| 13:46.14 | rvsjoen | adc__: try reading the man page for xrandr and use it to set the resolution |
| 13:46.25 | chomwitt | tabs -> keys |
| 13:46.26 | steven_ | likwid_-: nothing in logs at all ? |
| 13:46.28 | valdyn | steven_: allow-hotplug is silly for nics you cant hotplug, side effects just annoy |
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| 13:46.48 | steven_ | valdyn: cool that answers my qyestion... |
| 13:46.52 | steven_ | valdyn: ta |
| 13:46.58 | likwid_- | steven_: nope. just reboots like i told it to. and obviously i cant prove it until another 360 days go by |
| 13:47.10 | cahoot | likwid_-: built your own kernel? |
| 13:47.18 | likwid_- | stock debian |
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| 13:47.41 | steven_ | likwid_-: BIOS timed reboot perhaps ? |
| 13:47.48 | steven_ | likwid_-: dodgy watchdog timer ? |
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| 13:48.28 | valdyn | likwid_-: why would this be related to the number 360? |
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| 13:48.44 | likwid_- | steven_: mmm good suggestions. unfortunately i cant check the bios. its a rented server without kvm.. its old too so anything related to the onboard clock is probably dogdy |
| 13:48.57 | likwid_- | valdyn: its been 5 days since the reboot, it happens once a year |
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| 13:49.18 | valdyn | likwid_-: there has been timer bugs doing something like this |
| 13:49.25 | valdyn | likwid_-: last was on a specific leap second |
| 13:49.31 | valdyn | likwid_-: but i dont know about 355 uptime |
| 13:49.57 | steven_ | likwid_-: what does the server do? |
| 13:50.08 | steven_ | likwid_-: any rare unsuall pci devices etc etc |
| 13:50.20 | valdyn | likwid_-: it does not make sense to me anyway to relate it to uptime and not a specific time of year |
| 13:50.33 | valdyn | likwid_-: unless your local clock is reset each reboot |
| 13:51.05 | likwid_- | valdyn, well it happens once i reach a year of uptime.. so i dunno. im going to assume its dodgy hardware and live with it.. |
| 13:51.19 | valdyn | likwid_-: how do you know it actually rebooted? |
| 13:51.20 | likwid_- | and ill come back in 1 yr for my 3yr celebration of reboot |
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| 13:51.37 | valdyn | likwid_-: dont tell me by reading /proc/uptime |
| 13:52.08 | likwid_- | nah. it rebooted. i had alot of things i have to do on boot.. renable some ips, remount some partitions |
| 13:52.59 | adc__ | rvsjoen: the resolution i want does not show up in xrandr |
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| 13:53.41 | likwid_- | well thx for the suggestions. |
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| 13:55.20 | adc__ | anyone? |
| 13:55.25 | adc__ | how can i change my resolution? |
| 13:55.33 | Akuw | there is a incorrect translation in Sistema->Administracion->Imprimiendo this should be Impresoras (Printers) |
| 13:55.34 | adc__ | editing xorg.conf doesnt do it |
| 13:55.52 | valdyn | adc__: you need a custom modeline that fits within gfx card specs and monitor specs |
| 13:55.54 | hesco | have you tried offering an amendment? |
| 13:56.09 | valdyn | adc__: monitor specs can also be set in xorg.conf if the ones reported by it are wrong |
| 13:56.19 | hesco | seriously, try xvidconfig, I think it may be |
| 13:56.36 | hesco | xvidtune, I mean |
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| 13:57.07 | osfd_ | this package would be libfam0 |
| 13:57.09 | adc__ | valdyn: how and where do i generate one? |
| 13:57.15 | valdyn | !modeline |
| 13:57.15 | dpkg | from memory, modeline is You can create custom modelines at http://www.hut.fi/Misc/Electronics/faq/vga2rgb/calc.html, or http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl, or use cvt or gtf, or apt-get install videogen, or modeline |
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| 13:57.50 | Akuw | i am trying to install HP LaserJet P1005, Debian detected the printer, but when i try to print, the printer do nothing |
| 13:57.55 | hesco | I'm running Etch on my desktop and I need a tool like firebug. Attempts to install it from the browser into iceape fail. Attempts to apt-get install firefox give me nothing in response to `which firefox`. But I'm thinking that iceape may already be firefox, but am not sure. Any guidance avaialble here? |
| 13:58.12 | valdyn | hesco: iceweasel is firefox |
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| 14:01.28 | hesco | and iceape is iceweasel, right? |
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| 14:02.31 | nareshov | hesco: iceape is seamonkey |
| 14:02.51 | anon | hi, /etc/X11/xorg.conf has almost anything in it. how do i get its content back? |
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| 14:03.50 | hesco | ok, and that is disticnt from iceweasel / FF, so it might work in that browser even if not in this one, then? I'll try that. Thanks. |
| 14:04.00 | cahoot | anon: missing any functioality? |
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| 14:04.22 | anon | cahoot: no, but i want to edit resolutions |
| 14:04.23 | adc__ | what's my dot clock rate? |
| 14:04.24 | Madkiss | Youri: back |
| 14:04.26 | Madkiss | err |
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| 14:05.40 | tourt | valdyn: Hello. Thanks for your tip: "boot livecd, mount stuff, use chroot, regenerate initrd". It helped me to solve my RAID+LVM issue after I deleted the extra (and incorrect) ARRAY line created by the Debian Installer |
| 14:08.51 | fluxdude | how do you do automatic package management across all your linux server boxen without typing commands in to each box or scripting? |
| 14:09.15 | bolt-work | what's wrong with the scripting? |
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| 14:09.21 | jjoseph | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:10.52 | valdyn | tourt: nice! |
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| 14:11.41 | nardul | When i fetch mail with fetchmail (suprise), it sends back 'read request receipts'. How can i turn that off? |
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| 14:14.56 | Akuw | i am trying to install HP LaserJet P1005, Debian detected the printer, but when i try to print, the printer do nothing |
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| 14:17.07 | steven_ | fluxdude: puppet |
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| 14:17.18 | ChrisW | hmm, anyone got a good link to a good description of how to present problems properly? (ie: what was it doing? what's it doing now? what version? blah) friend of mine is doing my head in... |
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| 14:19.09 | pngwn | !tell ChrisW -about ask |
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| 14:22.38 | hark | !smart questions |
| 14:22.39 | dpkg | Go here to find out how to ask intelligent questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html - Be sure to look at the section http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#before - This FAQ has information to help many users solve their own problem more effectively and to help users interact more effectively with computer experts. Also ask me about <reportbug>. |
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| 14:30.18 | lxsameer | when i try to install debconf-2.0 i get this http://pastebin.com/m31c6333b |
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| 14:30.23 | lxsameer | what is it? |
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| 14:33.38 | hark | !virtual package |
| 14:33.38 | dpkg | [virtual package] a package that doesn't really exist but represents a function which several real packages fulfill, which appears in the Provides control file field of another package. The effect is as if the package(s) which provide a particular virtual package name had been listed by name everywhere the virtual package name appears. To find which package(s) provide a foo virtual package, use $ apt-cache showpkg foo; |
| 14:35.31 | mettallicat | someone can helpme create an encrypted FS with a usb key? |
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| 14:36.58 | alexxoid__ | mettallicat: try truecrypt |
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| 14:37.47 | mettallicat | alexxoid__, any good document ? |
| 14:39.29 | alexxoid__ | mettallicat: http://www.truecrypt.org/, you can create an encrypted disk with using key file as access credentials |
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| 14:56.07 | Illarane | Anyone know why I'm getting bash: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission Denied from a clean Lenny install? |
| 14:56.16 | neosmatrix | hi I have a problem with my bash completion and mc. I start mc and use tab to complete a file which is not there. The next comamnd, I execute, will not exit normal anymore. I have to kill a "bash -rcfile .bashrc" process to kill the command. |
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| 14:59.53 | steven_ | Illarane: does /bin/sh exist ? |
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| 15:00.38 | steven_ | Illarane: can yu run it ? compare md5sums, of the installed one with the one from which ever dev it's in ? |
| 15:00.50 | steven_ | s/dev/deb/ |
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| 15:03.10 | neosmatrix | This only happens if I use the bash completiion with a command. I think. mplayer "filewhich is not there"[TAB] |
| 15:03.50 | Illarane | steven_: Apparentlly I needed to add exec to the cdrom's options in fstab |
| 15:03.53 | Illarane | Works now. |
| 15:03.54 | neosmatrix | The error I get is: bash: completion: function `' not found |
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| 15:04.08 | Illarane | On another note, what's the name of the kernel headers package? :( |
| 15:04.24 | xand | linux-headers-something |
| 15:04.27 | Illarane | 'Cause I need to install VBox's guest stuff on this VM, and I'mma cry if I can't do it soon. |
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| 15:05.42 | Illarane | xand: Thanks. |
| 15:05.54 | sylarrr | aixenv, I changed fstab, and it is still not booting |
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| 15:06.55 | sylarrr | anyone knows how to change the root (/) device ? |
| 15:07.03 | Madkiss | to what? |
| 15:07.09 | sylarrr | /dev/sdd1 to /dev/sda1 |
| 15:07.39 | steven_ | sylarrr: you have to opy everything across to the new parition/device than change fstab/ grub opts etc etc |
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| 15:09.02 | neosmatrix | sorry I meant "bash: completion: function `À[' not found" |
| 15:09.04 | sylarrr | steven_, it is the same disk just in a different computer, and I have changed fstab, and grub |
| 15:09.38 | steven_ | sylarrr: you mean you want device sdd to become device sda |
| 15:09.58 | steven_ | sylarrr: that's a case of which sata port the drive is plugged into |
| 15:10.07 | steven_ | or scsi port |
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| 15:10.41 | sylarrr | steven_, yes and no, if you have 1 device it is always sda |
| 15:10.43 | ma3x | can anyone suggest a good virtual server company based in germany? |
| 15:11.37 | steven_ | sylarrr: yup but if yours is sdd im guessing you have more than one device |
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| 15:11.39 | steven_ | ? |
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| 15:12.13 | cahoot | sylarrr: do you even get a grub prompt? |
| 15:12.45 | jelly | steven_: "which sata port the drive is plugged into" # no, scsi disks start at sda regardless of physical connectivity |
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| 15:13.09 | sylarrr | cahoot, yes I get grub, and it loads until the mounting root file system or something like that |
| 15:13.36 | jelly | sylarrr: can you take a screenshot of that "something like"? |
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| 15:14.04 | fogel | hi |
| 15:14.32 | sylarrr | jelly, I can boot it again , and write it down, but I am now it rescue mode, trying to figure out what to do |
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| 15:14.48 | fogel | i've got a question - i wanna install debian from another distro using debootstrap, but this packase seem a bit small sa for bootstrap env |
| 15:14.49 | jelly | sylarrr: how are you connected now? |
| 15:15.02 | sylarrr | laptop |
| 15:15.11 | jelly | sylarrr: no camera phone or similar? |
| 15:15.21 | cahoot | sylarrr: whay's root set to in menu.lst? |
| 15:16.06 | sylarrr | jelly, I will write it down to you next time I boot |
| 15:16.21 | jelly | !paste |
| 15:16.21 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! |
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| 15:17.27 | sylarrr | cahoot, kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18-5-686 root=/dev/sdd1 ro |
| 15:17.48 | sylarrr | cahoot, and I changed sdd1 to sda1 |
| 15:18.00 | sylarrr | but that didn't help |
| 15:18.17 | cahoot | and root on the line above? |
| 15:18.28 | sylarrr | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:20.19 | cahoot | sylarrr: go with jelly's camera advice |
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| 15:21.38 | sylarrr | I have seen in: http://www.maxsworld.org/index.php/how-tos/move-root-partition-to-lvm |
| 15:21.53 | sylarrr | he used mkinitrd to make a new initrd with the new fstab |
| 15:22.23 | sylarrr | but I dont have mkinitrd in the rescue shell there |
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| 15:23.29 | stew | sylarrr: mkinitrd is outdated and shouldn't be used with kernels after 2.6.12, use mkinitramfs instead |
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| 15:24.39 | CoolCold | btw, can i use lenny with 2.6.18 ? |
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| 15:27.03 | sylarrr | stew, ok, thanks. do you know the option for the root device is it -r /dev/sda1 ? |
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| 15:27.18 | crazybyte | hi |
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| 15:27.33 | crazybyte | could somebody tell me what is the user for the network console in the installer |
| 15:27.37 | crazybyte | ? |
| 15:27.40 | crazybyte | thank you |
| 15:28.00 | sylarrr | root? |
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| 15:28.06 | stew | sylarrr: i don't know, but the manpage does. i'd expect the command line options to match mkinitrd |
| 15:28.37 | inSanity_ | crazybyte, uhm?? |
| 15:28.43 | sylarrr | stew, it doesn't in mkinintrd there is a --fstab=file |
| 15:28.54 | crazybyte | inSanity_, i loaded the network console component |
| 15:28.55 | inSanity_ | crazybyte, the network console? |
| 15:29.01 | crazybyte | and i want to login using ssh |
| 15:29.04 | crazybyte | yeah |
| 15:29.07 | crazybyte | in the installer |
| 15:29.11 | crazybyte | but i don't know the username |
| 15:29.17 | crazybyte | i got the password |
| 15:29.20 | inSanity_ | have you already created a user? |
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| 15:29.27 | crazybyte | but my workmate cannot tell me the user name |
| 15:29.36 | stew | sylarrr: there is no --fstab option to mkinitrd |
| 15:29.38 | crazybyte | inSanity_, it's the install cd |
| 15:29.51 | crazybyte | i have to go to console and create an user? |
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| 15:30.07 | inSanity_ | crazybyte, yeah seems the only solution to me |
| 15:30.15 | inSanity_ | crazybyte, otherwise try cat /etc/passwd |
| 15:30.28 | inSanity_ | you'll see all user accounts over there |
| 15:30.32 | crazybyte | yeah |
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| 15:30.58 | inSanity_ | might be a stupid question, but why do you want to connect by network to an install cd? |
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| 15:31.08 | kunal | is gentoo better than debian? |
| 15:31.15 | inSanity_ | kunal, depends on your needs |
| 15:31.17 | crazybyte | inSanity_, because the server is in another region |
| 15:31.21 | sylarrr | stew, I saw it at that link I pasted here |
| 15:31.23 | crazybyte | and it was hacked |
| 15:31.34 | crazybyte | and beacuse no one there is able to work with linux |
| 15:31.38 | inSanity_ | crazybyte, that sucks.. :s |
| 15:31.39 | crazybyte | it's the only soluiton |
| 15:31.43 | crazybyte | err solution |
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| 15:31.52 | stew | sylarrr: i'd guess its talking about redhat's mkinitrd |
| 15:31.59 | stew | kunal: try ##linux |
| 15:32.14 | inSanity_ | kunal, gentoo is more for the compile freak imho |
| 15:32.28 | stew | gentoo is a two paned file manager |
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| 15:33.00 | Arcopix | Hi all |
| 15:33.03 | stew | sylarrr: yes, that howto is for centos, not debian |
| 15:33.26 | ndcs | hi there! |
| 15:33.45 | lxsameer | how can i figure out that a package is a virtual package or not? |
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| 15:34.27 | kunal | iSanity- what is the most widely used Linux- for science people basically? |
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| 15:34.33 | kunal | for science and tech |
| 15:34.41 | Arcopix | <Arcopix> I have a problem with yum on Debian :) |
| 15:34.41 | Arcopix | <Arcopix> I'm trying to install Fedora-8 in a chroot |
| 15:34.41 | Arcopix | <Arcopix> When I attempt to install some basic stuff like gcc / bash it exits with the following message: |
| 15:34.41 | Arcopix | <Arcopix> Error: Failure finding best provider of libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.4) for gcc-4.1.2-33.i386, exceeded maximum loop length |
| 15:34.41 | Arcopix | <Arcopix> Does anyone have an idea on this one? |
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| 15:34.49 | stew | lxsameer: "apt-cache showpkg packagename" output will be different for a vitual package, it would show no Versions: and would show Reverse Provides: |
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| 15:35.12 | stew | kunal: try ##linux for generic linux questions |
| 15:35.16 | kunal | ok. |
| 15:35.19 | kunal | sorry |
| 15:36.08 | edju | is there a prog that works for an intel display like nvidia-settings for nvidia? |
| 15:36.20 | sylarrr | thinks that HDs should identify themselves by a key on them and not by the arbitrary number of disks that are currently installed |
| 15:36.43 | Deepa | Have fun with your WD48293849EF8 |
| 15:36.45 | mcella | what's the proper way to *permanently* tell aptitude that I don't want to install recommended packages? |
| 15:37.07 | stew | edju: what does nvidia-settings let you do? |
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| 15:37.10 | inSanity_ | crazybyte, dont you have kvm |
| 15:37.13 | inSanity_ | or something else? |
| 15:37.24 | stew | sylarrr: ls -l /dev/disk/by-id |
| 15:37.32 | lxsameer | stew: is there any other way? that be good for using in a script? |
| 15:38.10 | crazybyte | inSanity_, solved it |
| 15:38.13 | crazybyte | it's installer |
| 15:38.14 | edju | stew, it doesn't do much, just a gui that has all the video settings in one place. |
| 15:38.34 | stew | edju: xrandr should work for many different drivers |
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| 15:39.02 | stew | lxsameer: i don't know |
| 15:39.12 | stew | lxsameer: perhaps look at aptitude's search patterns |
| 15:39.27 | sylarrr | stew , so they also have an ID, good. But why do they load by sda1? |
| 15:39.51 | lxsameer | stew thanks . i use aptitude search pkgname and i get some character at the first of line , does 'v' refer to virtual? |
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| 15:40.29 | stew | sylarrr: you can give them new names using udev if you like |
| 15:40.29 | Arcopix | Anyone any idea on the issues related to yum & Fedora 8 installation? |
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| 15:40.44 | inSanity_ | crazybyte, ah ok! thumbs up!! |
| 15:40.53 | crazybyte | it works great |
| 15:40.55 | stew | lxsameer: i don't know |
| 15:40.57 | crazybyte | this is why i love debian |
| 15:41.00 | crazybyte | inSanity_, thx |
| 15:41.36 | edju | stew, yep, that'll do it. thanks. |
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| 15:42.13 | themill | dpkg: tell lxsameer about aptitude docs |
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| 15:43.07 | stew | yeah, it looks like "aptitude search '~v'" returns all virtual packages |
| 15:43.24 | stew | (noting that a virtual package is also "referred to by another package but I don't see such a package") |
| 15:43.24 | lxsameer | stew thanks i read the man |
| 15:43.51 | hark | mcella: in aptitude's preferences, the 'install recommended packages' option |
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| 15:44.11 | stew | "aptitude show httpd" -> "State: not a real package" |
| 15:44.14 | mcella | hark: I'm on a server, need something into apt.conf right? |
| 15:44.24 | mcella | APT::Install-Recommends "false"; |
| 15:44.47 | hark | mcella: then /msg dpkg apt recommends |
| 15:45.00 | mcella | hark: COOL |
| 15:45.05 | mcella | hark: tnx |
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| 15:46.21 | pred2k3 | hi, hows the x client package called? |
| 15:46.37 | OpenTokix | pred2k3: xbase-clients |
| 15:46.40 | pred2k3 | thansk |
| 15:46.41 | pred2k3 | ks |
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| 15:46.56 | OpenTokix | xbase-clients - miscellaneous X clients - metapackage |
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| 15:50.17 | GuySoft | hey all, i just upgraded to debian 5.0, and it seems ANY user can run su and gain root, what could be causing this? |
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| 15:50.31 | Deepa | Users couldn't su before? |
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| 15:51.19 | GuySoft | Deepa, they needed to put a password before |
| 15:51.30 | Deepa | Good point |
| 15:51.35 | OpenTokix | GuySoft: su or sudo? |
| 15:51.37 | Deepa | Does root has a password set? |
| 15:51.57 | GuySoft | Deepa, nm , got it.. pam-auth-update was not selected |
| 15:52.04 | kunal | deepa- indian? |
| 15:52.09 | kunal | kaise ho ji? |
| 15:52.11 | Deepa | Swedish |
| 15:52.22 | kunal | oh sorry |
| 15:52.23 | kunal | haha |
| 15:52.26 | GuySoft | Deepa, yes , um, well this could be a problem to other users |
| 15:52.27 | neurodamage | are there any utilities that automagically find the closest mirror to you and set that up in your debian apts sources.list file |
| 15:52.29 | kunal | deepa sounded like a sanskirt name |
| 15:52.37 | OpenTokix | neurodamage: netselect-apt |
| 15:52.42 | stew | neurodamage: or apt-spy |
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| 15:52.57 | dagobart | I installed, purged, re-installed mysql-server-5.0. Now, there-install does not create a root user account, despite aptitude asks for a password to use. (I followed is.gd/ms32 to peek into the mysql/user table.) How would I set up the mysql root user then? |
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| 15:53.28 | Deepa | kunal: I think it is. Means Princess too doesn't it? |
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| 15:53.40 | kunal | yes. |
| 15:53.41 | stew | dagobart: /msg dpkg i forgot mysql root password |
| 15:53.48 | Deepa | In my case it was "Oh snap, Deepy was taken. I'll fall back to Deepa" |
| 15:53.50 | kunal | deepa was daughter of king ashoka |
| 15:53.56 | axz | Hi guys i need small help with my Nvidia geforce drivers |
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| 15:53.57 | nareshov | D: |
| 15:54.08 | Deepa | :o |
| 15:54.13 | dagobart | stew: That's not the point, there is no mysql root user at all |
| 15:54.36 | dagobart | stew: the only user there is is the deb maint user |
| 15:54.37 | Deepa | dagobart: it contains instructions on how to make one |
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| 15:54.38 | kunal | but again this isnt history channel - so better stick to debian |
| 15:54.40 | stew | dagobart: startup mysql without authentication enabled and add a root user the way you would add any other user |
| 15:55.05 | dagobart | Deepa: ok, thanks for the hint |
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| 15:56.00 | dagobart | stew: Is there a way to generate it just like aptitude would do it? (I've ben so glad that aptitude did that for me; I remember mysql 3 times, whre one had to do everyhing oneself |
| 15:56.10 | siyb | axz: http://www.gerv.net/hacking/how-to-ask-good-questions/ |
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| 15:57.21 | axz | siyb, my question is how to install Nvidia GeForce drivers, because im long Fedora user and using Debian packages on Nvidia drivers gets me lots of dependency errors |
| 15:57.53 | crazybyte | inSanity_, one more question if you please |
| 15:57.57 | stew | dagobart: aptitude (and by aptitude, you mean dpkg) doesn't create a mysql root user for you, it sets the mysql root password for you |
| 15:58.02 | axz | siyb, once trying to install nvidia-glx, getting error |
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| 15:58.03 | nareshov | !nvidia |
| 15:58.03 | dpkg | To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. If you've done it before, asking me about <nvidia pre-built> or <nvidia m-a> might work. Installing directly from nvidia.com (ie. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia (irc.freenode.net). |
| 15:58.09 | inSanity_ | crazybyte, no problem just ask :) |
| 15:58.13 | crazybyte | are the marvell network cards supported in lenny? |
| 15:58.14 | nareshov | axz: seen that wiki page? ^ |
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| 15:58.23 | sobersabre | hi. I want to setup a partition for logs. |
| 15:58.29 | crazybyte | i heard about some issues with some network card firmware |
| 15:58.33 | axz | nareshov, ofc that why i got nvidia-glx from |
| 15:58.45 | edju | !intel |
| 15:58.45 | dpkg | from memory, intel is http://ipw2100.sourceforge.net/NOTICE |
| 15:58.56 | sobersabre | they will be collected from hosts on the network, and will be stored on this partition, syslog-ng is the software. |
| 15:59.02 | inSanity_ | crazybyte, pfff. donno |
| 15:59.06 | crazybyte | ok |
| 15:59.09 | crazybyte | inSanity_, thx |
| 15:59.11 | sobersabre | is there any filesystem except ext3 I should be thinking of ? |
| 15:59.13 | mutilator | hey all, i'm having a problem with clipboard management from windows -> linux using tightvncserver and tightvnc viewer |
| 15:59.14 | inSanity_ | crazybyte, you have to try :) |
| 15:59.20 | mutilator | any suggestions on how to get it working? |
| 15:59.25 | crazybyte | inSanity_, i cannot afford that |
| 15:59.33 | crazybyte | the server has to be up in a few hours |
| 15:59.42 | nareshov | mutilator: never looked into it, i thought it failed by default d: |
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| 15:59.56 | stew | sobersabre: think about reiserfs, and then think "i'm glad I don't use that" |
| 16:00.01 | omg_onoez | hi |
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| 16:00.12 | jelly | sobersabre: if you have to ask, no. |
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| 16:00.37 | sobersabre | jelly: I am quite sure, but I am asking anyway :) |
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| 16:00.55 | jelly | sobersabre: oh, in that case, "no" |
| 16:00.57 | khaije1 | can i use module-assistant with tarballs? |
| 16:00.58 | omg_onoez | i added few unstable repos to my lenny's sources.list, will it be a lil bit safer to upgrade it via aptitude safe-upgrade? |
| 16:01.02 | omg_onoez | sorry for my english |
| 16:01.15 | sobersabre | stew: who knows what would become of reiserfs4 if H.Reiser's wife wouldn't disappear.... |
| 16:01.16 | fogel | while doing debootstrap i got E: no /usr/lib/debootstrap/devices.tar.gz. cannot create devices |
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| 16:01.22 | fogel | what can i do with it? |
| 16:01.35 | mutilator | i can get it to work copying from the linux to the win box but not vice versa |
| 16:01.40 | stew | sobersabre: it would end up becoming obsolete in light of btrfs a little bit slower |
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| 16:02.57 | shillelagh | Someone able to help me get my sound working with a nVidia MCP51? |
| 16:03.24 | shillelagh | From what I can tell both alsa and xine are working fine, but still no sound. |
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| 16:03.51 | stew | sobersabre: ext3 is the safest option. its the most widely tested. in general you want your filesystem to not lose files. other options considered probably safe are xfs and probably jfs |
| 16:04.38 | cahoot | shillelagh: run speaker-test -t wav -c2 in a terminal |
| 16:04.38 | sobersabre | I do have an XFS based NFS storage. I like the quotas per project, etc. |
| 16:04.39 | sobersabre | but I thought of logs - it's not loaded. |
| 16:05.07 | shillelagh | I'm hearing nothing |
| 16:05.08 | axz | what does this mean? nvidia-kernel-2.6.26-1-amd64: Depends: nvidia-kernel-common (>= 20050829) but it is not installable |
| 16:05.13 | sobersabre | yet, I might have missed something that has popped up 2-3 years upto now. |
| 16:05.30 | FlyingFoX | i installed debian from an usb stick and cannot boot now without the stick being plugged in. i guess that the installer wrote grub into the wrong mbr (that of the stick instead of the disk). how can i check that? |
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| 16:05.35 | sobersabre | axz: is means: |
| 16:05.50 | dagobart | priceless: "/usr/bin/mysqladmin -u root '...'" gives "error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)'" |
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| 16:05.56 | dagobart | Any alternative ideas? |
| 16:06.01 | sobersabre | nvidia-kernel2.6.26-1-amd64 depends on nvidia-kernel-common, but that package is not installable. |
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| 16:06.09 | stew | dagobart: start mysql without authentication enabled |
| 16:06.10 | cahoot | shillelagh: cat /proc/asound/cards - only one? |
| 16:06.36 | sobersabre | not installable means is not in the repositories you've connected your apt system to. |
| 16:06.38 | shillelagh | No such fileofdirectory |
| 16:06.50 | axz | sobersabre, i'm just trying to get help here, nothing more |
| 16:06.59 | shillelagh | hates having a broken spacebar |
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| 16:07.32 | shillelagh | bah, missed a letter |
| 16:07.42 | stew | dagobart: if you start mysql by hand with authentication disabled, "mysqladmin -u root" will always succeed |
| 16:07.43 | shillelagh | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:07.43 | shillelagh | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:08.00 | sobersabre | axz: I have just asked your question. |
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| 16:08.20 | shillelagh | I even installed alsa firmware thinking that might be it sinceI had to beforeI gotsound on my laptop |
| 16:08.29 | cahoot | shillelagh: (as root) try invoke-rc.d alsa-utils reset 0 and run speaker-test again |
| 16:08.44 | axz | sobersabre, i dont understand its standard repositorie where its connected to ? |
| 16:08.46 | sylarrr | Begin: Waiting for root file system... ... |
| 16:08.57 | dagobart | stew: mysqladmin -u root gives a help page |
| 16:08.58 | sylarrr | jelly, see ^^^ this is the message where it hangs |
| 16:08.58 | bergwolf_ | I can't use ipv4 networking but ipv6 works fine on my box. |
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| 16:09.04 | bergwolf_ | anyone has a hint? |
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| 16:09.19 | stew | dagobart: you need to give it a command |
| 16:09.24 | shillelagh | and there is the sound |
| 16:09.47 | tyu | hi |
| 16:09.53 | bergwolf_ | I shutted down iptables |
| 16:10.08 | tyu | anybody know how to manage videos on apple ipod? |
| 16:10.09 | shillelagh | Thanks :) |
| 16:10.09 | bergwolf_ | and did dhclient eth0 |
| 16:10.12 | stew | dagobart: what are you trying to do with mysqladmin? for instance "mysqladmin -u root ping" would run the ping command. the help should have a list of available commands |
| 16:10.17 | cahoot | shillelagh: np |
| 16:10.39 | bergwolf_ | but I still can't ping my ipv4 gateway |
| 16:10.41 | sobersabre | axz: there are several repository "sections" in the repository: main, non-free, contrib |
| 16:10.45 | shillelagh | Thought alsaconf ran the init scripts so I never thought to run them myself :( |
| 16:10.45 | sobersabre | and maybe more. |
| 16:11.01 | sobersabre | axz: you must make sure you have connected to all of the sections. |
| 16:11.03 | sobersabre | have you ? |
| 16:11.03 | axz | sobersabre, i know but non-free ia checked as active |
| 16:11.12 | dagobart | stew: I fired up "mysqld_safe --skip-grant-tables &", then "mysqladmin -u root password '...'". Gives "You cannot use 'password' command as mysqld with grant tables disabled". Looks circular to me. |
| 16:11.22 | bergwolf_ | Could someone help me figure my problom out? |
| 16:11.25 | stew | judd: versions nvidia-kernel-common |
| 16:11.26 | judd | stew: nvidia-kernel-common -- etch/contrib: 20051028+1 lenny/contrib: 20080825+1 sid/contrib: 20080825+1 squeeze/contrib: 20080825+1 |
| 16:11.32 | stew | axz: its in contrib ^^ |
| 16:12.07 | shillelagh | Amazing how fast things run after having been on a 300MHz laptop for a while. |
| 16:12.07 | bergwolf_ | btw, I'm running debian sid on my laptop |
| 16:12.08 | sobersabre | axz: what does apt-cache show nvidia-kernel-common show about the version ? |
| 16:12.17 | jelly | sylarrr: no idea there... which debian release is in there? |
| 16:12.32 | sylarrr | etch |
| 16:12.33 | axz | sobersabre, nothing |
| 16:12.44 | sylarrr | jelly, etch |
| 16:12.55 | dagobart | So, I cannot access mysql since I have no root user. I cannot set one since I have no root passwd. And, I cannot set a root passwd snce I have no root psswd. |
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| 16:13.24 | sylarrr | I see in google some of these errors |
| 16:13.24 | FlyingFoX | how do i check at which mbr my bootloader is installed? |
| 16:13.29 | sylarrr | reading google |
| 16:13.30 | stew | dagobart: if you are trying to change the root password: /msg dpkg i forgot mysql root password |
| 16:13.36 | dagobart | How does aptitude handle that when it installs mysql? |
| 16:13.45 | stew | dagobart: if you are trying to add a user, isert into the User table in the mysql database |
| 16:13.50 | dagobart | stew: You said that already |
| 16:13.57 | stew | dagobart: yes, I did |
| 16:14.00 | jelly | sylarrr: did you change the motherboard / drivers needed? |
| 16:14.14 | fogel | while doing debootstrap i got E: no /usr/lib/debootstrap/devices.tar.gz. cannot create devices |
| 16:14.17 | fogel | what can i do with it? |
| 16:14.17 | stew | dagobart: but you are tyring ot change the root password with a non-working way, so i'm pointing you back at the working way |
| 16:14.18 | sylarrr | jelly, no |
| 16:14.21 | dagobart | stew: I do not have a root user, so I cannot change its password. I cannot add a user since I have no root user |
| 16:14.25 | bergwolf_ | Is there any software disabling ipv4 connections in debian sid except for iptables? |
| 16:14.34 | stew | dagobart: you can add users |
| 16:14.38 | sylarrr | jelly, but it did the same thing also on the original computer, if I moved the disks around |
| 16:14.49 | dagobart | stew, so let's look at it step by step |
| 16:14.51 | sylarrr | now I am in an initramfs shell |
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| 16:14.56 | stew | dagobart: when aptitude installs mysql it doesn't have to deal with a situation of having no root user. there is a root user when it installs |
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| 16:15.25 | stew | dagobart: if you want to see what happens when you install, look at /var/lib/dpkg/info/mysql-server-5.0.postinst |
| 16:15.51 | dagobart | stew: thanks for the file hint, i'll peek into it |
| 16:15.57 | hark | sylarrr: lvm? |
| 16:16.08 | stew | dagobart: it won't help you with your situation. it might help you realize that aptitude isn't adding a root user |
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| 16:16.37 | stew | dagobart: if you want to add a user, you insert into the User table in the mysql database, or you use the GRANT statement |
| 16:16.46 | sylarrr | hakr, not lvm |
| 16:16.59 | dagobart | stew: But initially it asks for a root password to set. And iirc it installs a root user to, in the first place |
| 16:17.14 | dagobart | stew: yepp, |
| 16:17.24 | stew | dagobart: well. i'll stop trying to convince you, you can read the file yourself |
| 16:17.38 | dagobart | stew, and as there's no root user who could do thiss I'd try to circumvent it by using the deb maint user instead |
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| 16:17.48 | sobersabre | so, axz do you have contrib connected ? |
| 16:18.12 | stew | dagobart: just insert into the User table |
| 16:18.21 | axz | sobersabre, i just fixed it in synaptic |
| 16:18.26 | axz | changed repos |
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| 16:19.05 | stew | dagobart: you don't need a root user to do this, as you told it to skip the authentication |
| 16:19.06 | dagobart | stew So, as deb maint user or as root? And if as root, how could I do that as long as there is no root user defined |
| 16:19.11 | stew | dagobart: as root |
| 16:19.23 | stew | dagobart: by starting mysql with the --skip-grant-tables option |
| 16:19.49 | dagobart | stew: Oky, let's see how that turns out... |
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| 16:20.57 | jelly | sylarrr: I'd use a livecd, mount and chroot to your installation, then update the initramfs / initrd image |
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| 16:22.37 | jelly | sylarrr: also, that kernel is old even for etch; there's 2.6.28-6-* and 2.6.24-* |
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| 16:23.01 | stew | s/28/18/ |
| 16:23.33 | jelly | right |
| 16:23.54 | jelly | 2.6.18-6-* compared to -5- |
| 16:24.37 | sylarrr | jelly, well, now I can't boot to it so, I may try to update initramfs from the rescue disk |
| 16:24.57 | sylarrr | jelly, but I don't understand initramfs |
| 16:25.04 | sylarrr | jelly, so I am RTFMing now |
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| 16:25.50 | jelly | it pretty much boils down to running update-initramfs with a few arguments |
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| 16:26.38 | sylarrr | ok, I thiink update-initramfs -c -k somename |
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| 16:27.34 | simonrvn | yes, 'all' for all of them, and a version otherwise, like the --help says . |
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| 16:28.34 | kunal | ehllo- does debain support live CD? |
| 16:28.49 | sylarrr | this really sucks btw |
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| 16:28.58 | stew | kunal: http://debian-live.alioth.debian.org/ |
| 16:29.12 | kunal | ok. |
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| 16:30.15 | kunal | stew- also its possible to install debian after viewing live CD? |
| 16:30.15 | kunal | just answer yes o no? |
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| 16:30.44 | stew | yes |
| 16:30.56 | kunal | thanks. |
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| 16:34.23 | eptalon | heyas |
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| 16:35.15 | eptalon | When I try to play a matroska video in vlc on sid/experimental, I get sound but no image? |
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| 16:40.44 | sylarrr | I did 'update-initramfs -u -k myver" and I still get the hang |
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| 16:40.45 | hampusw | GConf suddenly won't start when I start Gnome (Debian Sid). Any ideas? It's the same if I create a new user and start gnome (so my user configuration doesn't affect it). |
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| 16:41.59 | hark | hampusw: check the bts |
| 16:42.09 | hampusw | hark: bts? |
| 16:42.40 | hark | !tell hampusw about bts |
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| 16:43.37 | hampusw | hark: ok. thanks! |
| 16:44.09 | tyu | anybody know how to manage ipod videos? |
| 16:44.19 | hark | eptalon: run it from the command line and see the output |
| 16:44.43 | tyu | command not found |
| 16:44.50 | tyu | it's ubuntu by the way |
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| 16:45.15 | fogel | while doing debootstrap i got E: no /usr/lib/debootstrap/devices.tar.gz. cannot create devices |
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| 16:45.17 | fogel | what can i do with it? |
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| 16:46.48 | eptalon | hark: nothing unusual |
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| 16:47.08 | zagibu | i have no knowledge of debootstrap, but what happens when you do a ls /usr/lib/debootstrap/devices.tar.gz ? |
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| 16:48.07 | stew | fogel: how did you install debootstrap? |
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| 16:48.35 | fogel | stew: from source package |
| 16:48.39 | fogel | by make install |
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| 16:48.54 | stew | hmm, i did that yesterday with no problem |
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| 16:49.13 | stew | let me see if it actually created that file |
| 16:49.43 | stew | fogel: its in /usr/share/debootstrap for me |
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| 16:50.13 | stew | fogel: what version of debootstrap? |
| 16:50.26 | fogel | stew: and when i try to chroot into it, it has no aptitude or apt get, and prompt is I have no name!@fog:/# |
| 16:50.28 | eptalon | ls |
| 16:51.06 | fogel | stew: 0.3.3.2 |
| 16:51.06 | stew | fogel: you are trying to chroot into the chroot that deboostrap failed to create? |
| 16:51.21 | stew | fogel: oh, you should use a newer version |
| 16:51.23 | fogel | stew: yes, kinda stupid thing |
| 16:51.41 | stew | judd: versions debootstrap |
| 16:51.49 | judd | stew: debootstrap -- etch: 0.3.3.2etch1 sid: 1.0.10 lenny: 1.0.10lenny1 sid: 1.0.10lenny1 squeeze: 1.0.10lenny1 sid: 1.0.11 |
| 16:51.57 | stew | fogel: what version of debian are you trying to install? |
| 16:52.28 | fogel | stew: now i see mistake, i tried to install lenny with etch debootstrap... |
| 16:52.34 | hark | eptalon: pastebin the output of cvlc -v file and aptitude search '~Ounoff~i' |
| 16:53.00 | stew | fogel: yeah, that, in general, wont work |
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| 16:53.24 | stew | fogel: but it also looks like DEBOOTSTRAP_DIR is being calculated wrong (if you look at the top of the debootstrap script, you'll see what I mean) |
| 16:53.29 | fogel | omg |
| 16:53.33 | fogel | now i checked |
| 16:53.41 | fogel | i have debootstrap in portage |
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| 16:55.07 | Zvpun | how can I "aptitude search" for linux-image- only from testing? (deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing) |
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| 16:58.14 | eptalon | hark: is there a service that allows (text) file uploads? |
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| 16:58.25 | ix | pastebin.com? |
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| 16:59.42 | hark | eptalon: paste.debian.net |
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| 17:00.11 | fogel | stew: so if i have such versions of debootstrap in portage, which should i install for lenny? Available versions: 0.3.3.2 1.0.10 (~)1.0.10_p1 (~)1.0.11 |
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| 17:01.01 | eptalon | hark: http://pastebin.com/d56097884 |
| 17:01.16 | valdyn | fogel: the lenny version |
| 17:01.20 | stew | fogel: I'd expect both 1.0.10 and 1.0.11 to work, I don't know of any reason not to use the latest |
| 17:01.44 | valdyn | fogel: its probably better tested, thats all |
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| 17:01.54 | hark | Zvpun: aptitude search '~nlinux-image~Asqueeze' |
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| 17:02.29 | Zvpun | hark: thank you |
| 17:02.30 | hark | Zvpun: or s/squeeze/testing/ |
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| 17:03.03 | Zvpun | I whish ~n ~A ... would also be documented in the man page |
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| 17:04.58 | hark | !aptitude docs |
| 17:04.58 | dpkg | Documentation for aptitude can be found in the aptitude-doc package (to see the languages in which it is available, apt-cache showpkg aptitude-doc) or at http://people.debian.org/~dburrows/aptitude-doc/en/index.html . Also ask me about <aptitude search><aptitude-build-dep><aptitude clone><aptitude-fu>, or <aptitude debug> |
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| 17:05.53 | Zvpun | yes, again I wish it would also be documented in the manual page, imho that is where it belongs. |
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| 17:08.47 | jelly | Zvpun: you'll have to phrase that wish as a bug report of Severity: wishlist in Debian's BTS for it to be noted |
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| 17:10.49 | dagobart | stew: turns out the true issue on the missing root user was that /tmp/ was not writable, so aptituded couldn't exec some of the install scripts |
| 17:13.21 | hark | eptalon: which cpu? |
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| 17:14.12 | hark | the output is not too helpful, and you already do have the ffmpeg packages from dmm |
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| 17:15.35 | dagobart | bye |
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| 17:18.20 | eptalon | hark: AMD64 (Pentium D), Kernel 2.6.28-1-amd64 |
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| 17:19.04 | Laundry | can somebody help me setup my wireless network? i've installed all the hardware, and i'm trying to use wicd to set up the network because nothing else is working |
| 17:19.07 | wwmpcdd | Hi, I'm looking for the floppy images on the FTP server but I don't see them listed, and the MANIFEST file doesn't list them, either. |
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| 17:19.25 | Laundry | i am picking up networks, but it hangs at obtaining ip address |
| 17:19.30 | worr | wwmpcdd: I think they dropped floppy installs after etch |
| 17:19.45 | worr | wwmpcdd: you can still find etch floppies though, and upgrade |
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| 17:20.25 | Laundry | specifically, it hangs at "None: Obtaining IP address..." |
| 17:20.44 | Laundry | it stops after awhile and says not connected |
| 17:20.59 | wwmpcdd | worr: Okay, what exactly would that entail? |
| 17:21.11 | hark | eptalon: that should be good enough, don't see a reason for the late picture output. also no mention of a video decoder being used |
| 17:21.11 | wwmpcdd | Could I tell the installer to download packages from a newer source? |
| 17:21.44 | worr | wwmpcdd: install it normally, and then dist-upgrade to lenny after the install it |
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| 17:22.10 | Quibus | Hi, since 2 days I get in testing a GNOME popup saying: There was an error starting the GNOME Settings Daemon... etc. etc. |
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| 17:22.33 | Quibus | What could be the problem? |
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| 17:24.14 | ragsagar | i installed git in debian , but when running $git , it returns command not found |
| 17:24.30 | dob1 | $git or git? |
| 17:24.30 | hark | ragsagar: git-core |
| 17:25.07 | jelly | ragsagar: is the name of the package to get git |
| 17:25.21 | Quibus | When starting from command line, it says amongst others: Failed to acquire org.gnome.SettingsDaemon |
| 17:25.29 | ragsagar | hark, that is also not working |
| 17:25.38 | ragsagar | dob1, git |
| 17:25.41 | hark | ragsagar: sorry, it's the package |
| 17:25.47 | ragsagar | ok |
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| 17:27.13 | PeterFA | How do I get dpkg to tell me how to upgrade to unstable? |
| 17:27.18 | PeterFA | Or, testing. |
| 17:27.23 | PeterFA | The Squeeze one. |
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| 17:28.03 | asg | PeterFA: /msg dpkg lenny->squeeze |
| 17:28.18 | PeterFA | asg, thanks. |
| 17:28.23 | v4nelle | guys anybody know which packages install debian,for alsa support by default? |
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| 17:29.08 | PeterFA | I think I know why it's going to be a bumpy ride. I think I can handle a testing system. |
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| 17:30.49 | PeterFA | Ugh, in vim, how do I use regex to change abc to xyz on all lines? s/abc/xyz/g only works on that one line. |
| 17:31.26 | jelly | PeterFA: %s/... |
| 17:31.35 | PeterFA | jelly, thanks. |
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| 17:34.17 | PeterFA | kde (5:48) <-- this comes from packages.debian.org. What's the version line mean? |
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| 17:35.25 | stew | PeterFA: this is version 48 of the kde package, the 5: is the epoch, which is just a way to say "we're starting over, these versions are higher than anything in epoch 4" |
| 17:35.48 | PeterFA | stew, oh, thanks. |
| 17:36.15 | PeterFA | I'm trying to determine if I want to keep the repository for KDE4 or if I can get away without it and still have KDE4. |
| 17:36.21 | themill | !kde versions |
| 17:36.21 | dpkg | from memory, kde version is look at http://wiki.debian.org/DebianKDE for detailed information, or look at the version of kdelibs for an approximate version. |
| 17:36.43 | stew | PeterFA: the version of the kde package has nothing to do with upstream kde versions, its the version of debian's kde metapackage |
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| 17:38.11 | sylarrr | why cant I change /proc/cmdline in busybox? |
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| 17:38.18 | sylarrr | I have chmod it 777 |
| 17:38.35 | sylarrr | and when I write to it it doesn't save the changes |
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| 17:38.54 | sylarrr | doesn't save echo x > /proc/cmdline |
| 17:38.55 | stew | sylarrr: things in /proc aren't real files. they are in interface with the running kernel in a guise of being files |
| 17:38.57 | simonrvn | it's not a real file.... |
| 17:39.07 | johnrw | hi folks... ya know... I was messing with some software that wanted pulseaudio... and so... on my brand new Lenny... i did an apt-get install pulseaudio... and i wound up with an old version! Package: pulseaudio (0.9.10-3 and others) which is pulseaudio from March 30 2008! |
| 17:39.21 | worr | does Debian have anytyhing like port audit for FreeBSD, or glsa-check for gentoo? |
| 17:39.25 | sylarrr | stew, how can I edit it still? |
| 17:39.51 | sylarrr | ? |
| 17:39.51 | PeterFA | johnrw, well, Lenny is stable and only has stable packages in it. |
| 17:39.56 | stew | sylarrr: you can't edit files in /proc. /proc/cmdline is the list of arguments passed to the kernel when the kernel was booted |
| 17:40.07 | sylarrr | aha |
| 17:40.09 | PeterFA | johnrw, i don't know about the new version, but Lenny is frozen anyways. |
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| 17:40.37 | sylarrr | damn :/ |
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| 17:40.59 | PeterFA | stew, so, how would I determine whether or not the Squeeze repos have KDE4 in them? |
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| 17:41.11 | worr | PeterFA: No, they're only in experimental |
| 17:41.13 | stew | johnrw: yes, lenny was frozen in july, so its not suprising that it might have software from march |
| 17:41.37 | PeterFA | worr, ok, so I keep the extra repo that I have for it. |
| 17:41.50 | worr | yeah |
| 17:42.06 | sylarrr | the damn machine don't boot |
| 17:42.14 | johnrw | ok well... looking at their site... http://www.pulseaudio.org/ I was amazed at all the releases since... |
| 17:42.57 | Quibus | No one knows what the problem is? :( |
| 17:43.11 | PeterFA | initiated his switch to Squeeze. |
| 17:43.13 | PeterFA | Thar she blows. |
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| 17:45.29 | PeterFA | Hmm, the kde4.debian.net repo has no /squeeze dir. |
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| 17:46.42 | PeterFA | Should I just change that line back to /lenny/ or is there some better way? |
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| 17:47.36 | miksuh | PeterFA: kde4 should be in squeeze soner or later, if it's not already (i use lenny) |
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| 17:48.09 | miksuh | PeterFA: I don't see any reason to use external repo with squeeze |
| 17:48.10 | PeterFA | miksuh, I determined that it was not. I'd like for it to be. |
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| 17:48.46 | stew | miksuh: he's using an external repo with squeeze to get kde4 |
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| 17:49.01 | sylarrr | I have one HD on sata, I set kernel options to /dev/sda1 |
| 17:49.06 | sylarrr | and it still hangs |
| 17:49.13 | sylarrr | *$*#(@(##$( |
| 17:49.17 | stew | miksuh: oh, no kde4 is not in squeeze. its not in unstable yet |
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| 17:49.25 | miksuh | stew: I know that. But why use it when kde4 will be in squeeze sooner or later |
| 17:49.28 | stew | a few libs are, but not then entire thing |
| 17:49.31 | johnrw | ok... the latest pulseaudio is in sid... is there some magic cmd I can do to download the one in sid... and then build it with my existing lenny? |
| 17:49.32 | ajavid | !doctine |
| 17:49.36 | ajavid | hm |
| 17:49.43 | simonrvn | sylarrr: wth do you mean by hangs? |
| 17:49.44 | stew | johnrw: /msg dpkg ssb |
| 17:49.59 | johnrw | stew thx |
| 17:50.07 | simonrvn | i get the feeling your definition is different from mine |
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| 17:50.23 | sylarrr | simonrvn, I mean - Begin: waiting for root file system... ... |
| 17:50.53 | simonrvn | !waiting for the root filesystem |
| 17:50.54 | dpkg | If you've recently upgraded your kernel and your system hangs at "waiting for the root filesystem", this may be from the libata transition. /dev/hd? disks might now be known as /dev/sd?. At the grub menu, press e to edit the entry, change the ROOT= part, then press b to boot. You need to edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst and perhaps also your /etc/fstab. Also ask me about <can't mount root> <uuid> |
| 17:51.00 | johnrw | man...... the bot is priceless!!!! |
| 17:51.06 | sylarrr | simonrvn, and then I get busybox prompt |
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| 17:51.50 | wwmpcdd | Okay, before I go to the hassle, is it true that boot install floppies are no longer provided for Debian? |
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| 17:52.18 | otwieracz | Hello. |
| 17:52.19 | sylarrr | simonrvn, I didn't not change my kernel, just removed a few disks |
| 17:52.30 | otwieracz | Where I set what startup scripts shall load? |
| 17:52.40 | sylarrr | simonrvn, and so the disk is sda1 instead of sdd1 |
| 17:52.54 | simonrvn | sylarrr: yes, and? you need to reconf your bootloader |
| 17:53.02 | simonrvn | like the bot spat out |
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| 17:53.09 | PeterFA | Downloading the Internet. Time for a shower. |
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| 17:53.58 | sylarrr | simonrvn, you mean grub? I press e and change sdd1 to sda1 |
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| 17:54.09 | sylarrr | simonrvn, that doesn't help |
| 17:54.14 | maxxim | hi, i have an serial interface on my debian server. How can i connect to my switch via serial cable that is connected the debian serial interface? Like HyperTerminal from windows. Thank |
| 17:54.16 | otwieracz | Anybody know? |
| 17:54.48 | jelly | maxxim: minicom |
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| 17:55.06 | maxxim | jelly, any other standart tool? |
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| 17:55.16 | maxxim | jelly> i don't have the 'minicom' |
| 17:55.20 | jelly | minicom is pretty much the norm on Linux |
| 17:55.26 | jelly | maxxim: install it |
| 17:55.39 | johnrw | hmm... i get this error becuase i added a mirror to /etc/apt-get/sources.list GPG error: http://mirror.hro.nl stable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907 |
| 17:55.49 | maxxim | jelly> i'm on a box where i can not install anything... any other standard tool? |
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| 17:56.18 | sylarrr | the root part in menu.lst is: |
| 17:56.21 | jelly | maxxim: not that I know of |
| 17:56.26 | sylarrr | root (hd0,0) |
| 17:56.40 | sylarrr | should it be sd0 maybe? |
| 17:57.03 | simonrvn | no |
| 17:57.52 | stew | sylarrr: that's something different. that where grub finds its files, nothing to do with where your kernel finds / |
| 17:58.08 | stew | sylarrr: and hd is the only thing valid there, not sd |
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| 17:58.33 | dupondje | /dev/sdb 2692062000 -362656292 2917969340 - /mnt/sdb |
| 17:58.37 | dupondje | tell me how this is possible :P |
| 17:58.40 | stew | sylarrr: do you have any working kernels? |
| 17:58.44 | themill | johnrw: keep following the instructions on the debian-multimedia website. |
| 17:58.47 | stew | sylarrr: and have you successfully rebuilt your initrd? |
| 17:58.51 | jelly | dupondje: df -m ? |
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| 17:59.02 | dupondje | /dev/sdb 2628967 -354157 2849580 - /mnt/sdb |
| 17:59.15 | jelly | dupondje: a bug in df. |
| 17:59.33 | jelly | or an invalid filesystem :-) |
| 17:59.38 | dupondje | well its mounted |
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| 17:59.41 | dupondje | and it works :p |
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| 18:00.03 | chandor | alsa |
| 18:00.24 | chandor | !alsa |
| 18:00.24 | dpkg | ALSA is the Advanced Linux Sound Architecture. Debian has documentation at http://wiki.debian.org/ALSA or see <alsa install>, <alsa-checklist>, <alsa firmware>, <alsa versions>. #alsa on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 18:01.13 | Quibus | johnrw: http://mbilderbeek.livejournal.com/798.html |
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| 18:02.18 | stew | johnrw: we'd strongly recommend you not do what is suggested there |
| 18:02.22 | stew | johnrw: but use a backport instead |
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| 18:03.59 | Quibus | stew: what's wrong with that tip? |
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| 18:04.23 | Quibus | or, isn't he running testing? |
| 18:04.30 | stew | Quibus: he's running stable. mixing stable and unstable is a bad idea and can lead to many problems |
| 18:04.40 | Quibus | oh, OK, agreed then! |
| 18:04.49 | ajavid | it WILL, can is a given |
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| 18:05.02 | Quibus | weirdly enough, this blog post cannot be found with Google |
| 18:05.15 | johnrw | ok... i added the multimedia keys to the keyring... |
| 18:05.24 | ajavid | the oler the stable release becomes, the more potential problems can arise when mixing with testing or stable, you should backport if anything |
| 18:05.28 | johnrw | stew should i Not have done that? |
| 18:06.33 | Quibus | So, am I the only one with GNOME problems on testing atm? |
| 18:06.38 | johnrw | stew: oh... you mean... installing software from unstable... no way... if i can't buildit on my machine... then i don't need it... |
| 18:06.43 | jelly | dupondje: which filesystem is it? grep /sdb /proc/mounts |
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| 18:06.51 | dupondje | ext3 |
| 18:07.58 | jelly | dupondje: debian release? uname -r? |
| 18:08.23 | dupondje | lenny 2.6.26-1-686 |
| 18:08.30 | stew | johnrw: no, using multimedia repos for lenny is fine. i was suggesting you not try to directly install software from unstable |
| 18:08.32 | eptalon | Can I expect a big boost of transfer rates between sw raid and hw raid? |
| 18:08.48 | johnrw | stew: right... |
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| 18:09.07 | dupondje | esaym: depends WHAT hw raid :) |
| 18:09.28 | stew | eptalon: no |
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| 18:10.41 | eptalon | stew: so on a box where transfer rates are already in the ballpark (between 60-65MBytes/s, for recovery), hw raid for a single OS setup has no advantage? |
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| 18:12.16 | stew | eptalon: i don't know about recovery rates. in general, hardware raid doesn't do that much if any better than linux software riad |
| 18:12.17 | dupondje | eptalon: all depends on what raid & what controller |
| 18:12.21 | Laundry | if debian has a driver for my usb wireless adapter and i want to use it with another os, how would i find out which driver it is/be able to use it with the other distro |
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| 18:15.03 | eptalon | dupondje: currently lunix software raid 5 on Maxtor Maxline III |
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| 18:15.45 | dupondje | eptalon: and what controller u want to go to ? :) |
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| 18:16.56 | hark | Laundry: readlink /sys/class/net/wlan0/device/driver/module |
| 18:17.07 | Laundry | thanks |
| 18:17.10 | hark | Laundry: replace wlan0 with your interface |
| 18:17.26 | eptalon | dupondje: was thinking of a 3ware 9650S (either 4 or 8 drive setup); can't afford areca.. |
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| 18:19.58 | heffay | im trying to set up lirc in lenny and for some reason there is nothing in my /dev . i dont know what i did wrong. |
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| 18:20.36 | dupondje | eptalon: well 3ware should be faster |
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| 18:20.44 | dupondje | and ofc less CPU usages |
| 18:21.02 | hark | heffay: how did you set it up? did you use m-a? |
| 18:21.33 | heffay | yes i did |
| 18:21.40 | heffay | m-a a-i |
| 18:21.47 | hark | ok |
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| 18:22.27 | johnrw | stew: E: Build-Depends dependency for pulseaudio cannot be satisfied because no available versions of package libasound2-dev can satisfy version requirements |
| 18:22.48 | johnrw | is that a killer? |
| 18:22.52 | heffay | then i installed teh deb package in /usr/src |
| 18:22.54 | stew | johnrw: then you'd have to first backport libasound2-dev |
| 18:23.03 | johnrw | oh |
| 18:23.08 | heffay | and modprobed it |
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| 18:25.25 | beered | I'm trying to setup NS. I have a public IP address and FQDN. When I look at query log I see this error message: query: www.apple.com.FQDN.org IN A + |
| 18:25.35 | beered | where FQDN is my domain name. |
| 18:25.38 | beered | of course apple.com does not resolve. Any hints or ideas? :-) |
| 18:26.32 | azeem | beered: how did you query for www.apple.com? |
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| 18:27.22 | heffay | hark, anything else i should check? |
| 18:28.17 | johnrw | ok... trying to do the same... i got Setting up libc6-amd64 (2.7-18) ... but even though this is a amd64 cpu... i installed i686 lenny... is that libc6-amd64 okay? |
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| 18:28.57 | eptalon | dupondje: bad idea? - According to the spec sheet, hdd has like 65-70mb transfer rate; can't expect more on rebuild, can I? |
| 18:29.17 | dupondje | rebuild is difficult thing :) |
| 18:29.23 | dupondje | try to find benchmarks |
| 18:29.37 | dupondje | but I had 100mb/sec |
| 18:29.37 | dupondje | RAID5 rebuild @ mdadm |
| 18:29.42 | dupondje | 3 disks RAID5 |
| 18:30.07 | eptalon | dupondje: 4 disk raid5 (Maxtor, Maxline 3, 300g each. |
| 18:30.14 | dupondje | Maxtor :( |
| 18:30.16 | dupondje | why ! :D |
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| 18:30.37 | eptalon | dupondje: it was affordable at the time. |
| 18:30.43 | dupondje | :) |
| 18:31.02 | jelly | hey, they still work so they're great. |
| 18:31.03 | eptalon | dupondje: the system is like 3 years old. |
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| 18:31.25 | jelly | ... as long as eptalon has backups. |
| 18:31.29 | eptalon | jelly: special 24/7 drives, ''hardly'' used. |
| 18:31.40 | eptalon | jelly: what? |
| 18:31.45 | eptalon | ;) |
| 18:31.51 | jelly | eptalon: exactly. |
| 18:31.59 | kunal113 | hey. how do i install debian from a live CD? is there any sites? |
| 18:32.05 | sylarrr | stew, currently no kernel work |
| 18:32.08 | kunal113 | i already got the live CD running. |
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| 18:32.15 | kunal113 | but want to start the installation. |
| 18:32.22 | hark | heffay: check dmesg |
| 18:32.24 | eptalon | kunal113: "live cd"? |
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| 18:32.28 | johnrw | stew yeah... it's doing a -m64 build... of libasound2-dev |
| 18:32.36 | kunal113 | yeah. a Live bootable debian cd |
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| 18:32.48 | jelly | eptalon: you have lots of disks of same brand and possibly same shipment too; if there were systemic errors, someone might end up with a multiple disk failure |
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| 18:33.03 | sylarrr | stew, I have 'update-initramfs -u -k mykernelversion' and it seems to have worked. Did it from rescue disk, but nothing has change and it still drops out into busybox |
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| 18:33.10 | jelly | eptalon: raid5 doesn't like multiple disks failing at the same time |
| 18:33.19 | eptalon | jelly: I know. |
| 18:33.40 | jelly | eptalon: therefore, you have backups! :-) |
| 18:33.40 | eptalon | jelly: and I guess raid6 performance sux |
| 18:33.57 | jelly | eptalon: with decent controllers, not much |
| 18:34.09 | beered | azeem: how did I query www.apple.com? by using a web browser. |
| 18:34.16 | eptalon | jelly: "software" for the time being |
| 18:34.26 | jelly | eptalon: I get 600MB/s seq. writes... from 22 spindles in raid6. :-) |
| 18:34.30 | kunal113 | anyone know how to install debian from a live CD? |
| 18:35.02 | azeem | kunal113: I think that is currently not supported |
| 18:35.02 | kunal113 | i cant find any manual |
| 18:35.10 | kunal113 | azeem: are you serious? |
| 18:35.16 | azeem | yes? |
| 18:35.22 | azeem | kunal113: you can start the regular installer from the liveCD though, I thin |
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| 18:35.33 | kunal113 | azeem: how do it? |
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| 18:35.53 | azeem | it's in the FAQ or something, you pass it a boot option |
| 18:36.19 | kunal113 | oh ok. |
| 18:36.20 | beered | I can ping all my FQDN. They resolve just fine. The problem is when I try to ping www.yahoo.com or such. For some reason the query looks like this www.yahoo.com.FQDN.com IN A+ where FQDN.com is one of my domains. |
| 18:36.28 | beered | Somehow the NS appends my FQDN.com to all queries. :-( |
| 18:36.35 | wwmpcdd | I just installed edge via floppy. What should I do now to upgrade the system to the latest release? |
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| 18:36.38 | eptalon | jelly: thats ''Bytes'', not Bits? |
| 18:36.48 | jelly | eptalon: yes. |
| 18:37.00 | azeem | kunal113: http://live.debian.net/manual/html/debian-installer.html |
| 18:37.08 | kunal113 | ah thanks |
| 18:37.44 | jpinx | wwmpcdd: "edge" ? is that etch? |
| 18:37.44 | azeem | wwmpcdd: what does "dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1" say? |
| 18:37.44 | wwmpcdd | oops :D |
| 18:37.44 | wwmpcdd | I meant etch. |
| 18:37.48 | eptalon | jelly: but not on sata? |
| 18:37.56 | jelly | eptalon: sata disks. |
| 18:38.04 | jpinx | !tell wwmpcdd about etch->lenny |
| 18:38.08 | eptalon | jelly: on a sas controller? ;) |
| 18:38.11 | azeem | kunal113: let me know if that works with the regular LiveCDs, I'm curious |
| 18:38.34 | kunal113 | ok. azeem: what is debootsrap? |
| 18:38.40 | jelly | eptalon: (and a separate enclosure with choice of sas or dual port FC connectivity, yes ;-) |
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| 18:39.03 | azeem | kunal113: an internal part of debian-installer |
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| 18:39.21 | kunal113 | ok. let me try running it. |
| 18:39.39 | eptalon | kunal113: it is a console app.. |
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| 18:40.06 | jelly | eptalon: this one has only fiber, but they had a sas model as well |
| 18:40.45 | kunal113 | right. now i am in debian live mode. trying to get a way to install it |
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| 18:40.53 | eptalon | jelly: aka NAS... |
| 18:40.59 | kunal113 | as to be done via terminal? |
| 18:41.04 | jelly | eptalon: no, DAS. |
| 18:41.07 | eptalon | or rather a SAN |
| 18:41.22 | azeem | kunal113: at bootup |
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| 18:41.43 | kunal113 | oh ok .sorry |
| 18:41.45 | jelly | eptalon: it's not a SAN when it's connected server <-> storage :-) |
| 18:41.57 | eptalon | jelly: true. |
| 18:42.11 | jelly | (or rather, it's a very small SAN) |
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| 18:42.27 | eptalon | jelly: minimal case? |
| 18:42.52 | jelly | I guess. |
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| 18:43.13 | eptalon | jelly: ou like it. |
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| 18:44.26 | jelly | eptalon: yes, except after putting lvm and ext3 on top, the performance goes down 2-3 times compared to raw |
| 18:45.22 | eptalon | jelly: ext3 sux. |
| 18:45.33 | eptalon | use xfs. |
| 18:45.54 | azeem | eptalon: eh? |
| 18:46.02 | jelly | eptalon: it's not supported on the OS that's on that machine |
| 18:46.21 | eptalon | jelly: "virtualized" |
| 18:46.23 | jelly | (rhymes with deadbrat) |
| 18:46.35 | eptalon | jelly: and below you have some medium IBM server.. |
| 18:47.02 | Bombo | etch->lenny question: will editing sources.list & apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade do the job or do i need aptitude like dpkg etch->lenny says? |
| 18:47.16 | azeem | Bombo: do as dpkg says |
| 18:47.18 | eptalon | jelly: and you run (preferred os) in a virtualized container) |
| 18:47.18 | jelly | eptalon: hp |
| 18:47.20 | azeem | and/or the release notes |
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| 18:48.16 | jelly | eptalon: this machine is used to push bytes as fast as it can from net to disk, then from disk to tapes. I don't think virtualized anything would help. |
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| 18:49.10 | eptalon | jelly: and ideally you dont run linux on it, but something more stable, like sunos |
| 18:49.15 | eptalon | or hpux |
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| 18:49.25 | azeem | eptalon: please keep it on topic |
| 18:49.40 | sylarrr | now debian live hang on that it doesn't like the time :/ |
| 18:49.42 | eptalon | ok. |
| 18:49.50 | sylarrr | 2002 |
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| 18:49.57 | jelly | eptalon: we migrated _away_ from sun as it didn't bring enough cpu per dollar. |
| 18:50.02 | azeem | sylarrr: it's 2009 now |
| 18:50.16 | zagibu | sylarrr: use a time server? |
| 18:50.23 | heffay | could someone help me troubleshoot my lirc? for some reason ive got nothing showing up in /dev |
| 18:51.14 | sylarrr | I did ctrl+alt f1 |
| 18:51.27 | sylarrr | and got the prompt |
| 18:51.47 | sylarrr | now it doesn't let me su to root |
| 18:51.52 | sylarrr | need password |
| 18:52.05 | sylarrr | knoppix let you enter an empty password |
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| 18:55.25 | Bombo | azeem: will apt-get dist upgrade not work? |
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| 18:55.33 | azeem | Bombo: it /might/ not work |
| 18:56.04 | stew | Bombo: you might not like the list packages it might decide to remove when upgrading |
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| 18:57.59 | sylarrr | how do I return to the graphical interface? |
| 18:58.07 | johnrw | ok guys... I have build libasound2-dev and libasound2-plugins here is what I got... |
| 18:58.08 | johnrw | lib64asound2-dev_1.0.19-1_i386.deb |
| 18:58.09 | sylarrr | (after ctrl+alt+f1) |
| 18:58.10 | johnrw | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 371186 2009-03-11 14:35 libasound2_1.0.19-1_i386.deb |
| 18:58.11 | johnrw | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 503450 2009-03-11 14:35 libasound2-dev_1.0.19-1_i386.deb |
| 18:58.13 | johnrw | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1013114 2009-03-11 14:35 libasound2-doc_1.0.19-1_all.deb |
| 18:58.14 | johnrw | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 126008 2009-03-11 14:49 libasound2-plugins_1.0.16-1_i386.deb |
| 18:58.21 | johnrw | geezus...sry |
| 18:58.29 | dragonfly | sylarrr ctrl+alt+f7 |
| 18:58.44 | johnrw | there are 2 darned clipboards! |
| 18:58.56 | sylarrr | dragonfly, that worked, thanks |
| 18:59.03 | dragonfly | n/p |
| 18:59.05 | kunal113 | what does special boot parameters for the install system mean? |
| 18:59.44 | johnrw | so I am supposed to install those? Can I undo that...? |
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| 19:00.20 | ma3x | does anybody know good virtual server hosting company that offers services in german? |
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| 19:01.42 | kunal113 | ok listen guys i am at the start up of a live CD installation at boot |
| 19:01.52 | dragonfly | ok... |
| 19:01.58 | kunal113 | and it cant find any kernel |
| 19:02.01 | kunal113 | what to do at boot? |
| 19:02.06 | kunal113 | i want to install it- |
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| 19:02.14 | azeem | kunal113: maybe ask #debian-livee |
| 19:02.17 | Witch-King | debian provides no livecds unless you're talking about knoppix |
| 19:02.17 | azeem | eh, #debian-live |
| 19:02.21 | kunal113 | ok thanks. |
| 19:02.25 | azeem | Witch-King: it does |
| 19:02.29 | \3TATUK | Is there an easy mime-type lookup program that you can specify a specific file to? |
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| 19:04.35 | agutierr | hello |
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| 19:05.06 | agutierr | someone knows where is stored the configuration of a package, after its installed on system? (template package) |
| 19:05.07 | simonrvn | \3TATUK: it's called grep and /etc/mime.types |
| 19:06.03 | dragonfly | agutierr, check in /etc |
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| 19:07.08 | saulus | I cant install locales-all. I get tar: ./xx_XX/LC_IDENTIFICATION: Cannot write: No space left on device. But Im sure space exists enough! |
| 19:07.13 | agutierr | dragonfly, I am not saying the configuration of a package, I say the answers to the questions that apt-get do throught debconf when I install a package. |
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| 19:07.51 | agutierr | i.e. when you install java and accept the license, the second time you install java you dont have to accept this license agreement, do you understand me? |
| 19:08.17 | dragonfly | hmmm, i'm not sure on that...did you look for the location via checking in the install script? |
| 19:08.54 | saulus | how do I see where the files are getting copied to from a .deb? |
| 19:09.13 | agutierr | A single package includes a serie of questions/configuration throught debconf, it is stored on the templates file on control.tar.gz |
| 19:09.22 | agutierr | file 'templates' |
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| 19:09.36 | agutierr | it seems like preseeding packages using debian |
| 19:09.45 | agutierr | i.e. on the debian-installer |
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| 19:12.00 | saulus | there exists none control.tar.gz on my system. How can I list the installation path from the deb? |
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| 19:15.56 | Laundry | could anybody tell me why i can't connect to the internet? i've been trying to connect to my router via wicd, but it hangs at "None: obtaining ip address". all the other configuration utilities aren't working either. i tried going on to the network setup utility on the installer disc, but that couldn't set it up either. |
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| 19:17.03 | ix | How are you connecting to the internet? Do you know whether there's a DHCP server listening on the other side? |
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| 19:17.33 | Laundry | comcast modem -> router -> wireless card |
| 19:17.47 | Laundry | this specific device has connected to the router on windows via dhcp |
| 19:18.09 | Laundry | and i'm currently connected to it via dhcp on the computer i'm using right now, but on windows |
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| 19:20.15 | Laundry | it's also an unsecured network |
| 19:20.32 | dragonfly | Laundry, do you have the right drivers for that particular wireless chipset? |
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| 19:21.16 | Laundry | yeah, i have a wusb54gs v1 and i'm using rndis_wlan |
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| 19:22.20 | johnrw | ok... I had to ad sid... to the sources.list but now I am done... is there a cmd to purge all repo info now? |
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| 19:24.11 | simonrvn | comment it out and update again.... |
| 19:24.14 | kenjy | if I set a variable with a file name for example a=hello world.html, I can't do cat $a, so I tryed a=hello\ world.html cat $a but I can't do it, if I do a=hello\sworld.html cat $a, I can't, the error its "the file don't exist", how can I cat a file from a variable if the file name have spaces? |
| 19:24.43 | stew | kenjy: a="hello world.html" ; cat "$a" |
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| 19:25.05 | simonrvn | eeew icky\ spaces\ in\ filenames |
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| 19:25.09 | sylarrr | debian live run fine on this computer, so I have copied its /boot/* to my HD's /boot/. |
| 19:25.19 | sylarrr | but it still hang |
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| 19:25.29 | stew | kenjy: a=hello\ world.html would also work with: cat "$a" |
| 19:25.32 | sylarrr | and drops to busybox |
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| 19:26.19 | sylarrr | but I think that with kernel .18 I didn't see sda in /dev, and now I see it |
| 19:26.20 | kenjy | steven_: "" don't work, \space don't work |
| 19:26.38 | sylarrr | so maybe that is the reason my old kernel fail |
| 19:27.05 | sylarrr | anyone know how to fix? |
| 19:28.13 | kenjy | stew: ok, it works for cat but don't for grep |
| 19:28.29 | stew | kenjy: show me |
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| 19:29.40 | kenjy | stew: http://rafb.net/p/FRYULW49.html |
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| 19:31.21 | stew | kenjy: for file in `cat files` wont work without changing the IFS, try "while read file ; do --- ; done < files |
| 19:31.45 | kenjy | stew: whats the IFS? |
| 19:32.06 | stew | kenjy: input field separator |
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| 19:33.40 | Newbee | hi guys |
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| 19:34.26 | Newbee | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:34.57 | jelly | kenjy: always quote "$a" |
| 19:35.06 | dragonfly | what's the problem Newbee |
| 19:35.43 | planet8 | I have updated one of my machines from etch to lenny. Amavis needed to be upgraded and the maintainer conf files got saved with <file>.dpkg.new but I accidentally deleted them. Is there a way to get them reinstalled without reinstalling the package itself? |
| 19:35.44 | Newbee | when i suspend my notebook to ram it wakes up but my screen stays black |
| 19:35.56 | jelly | kenjy: there's no grep in your question, where did that come from? |
| 19:36.05 | sylarrr | can anyone point me in the direction of making a new kernel for etch? |
| 19:36.07 | stew | jelly: inside the loop |
| 19:36.14 | sylarrr | (in a system that doesn't boot) |
| 19:36.15 | jelly | must be blind |
| 19:36.34 | stew | jelly: are you looking at his paste on rafb? |
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| 19:37.16 | stew | kenjy: compare the output of "for file in `cat files` ; do echo $file ; done" and "while read file ; do echo $file ; done < files" |
| 19:37.32 | jelly | kenjy: read http://wooledge.org:8000/BashPitfalls |
| 19:37.39 | jelly | kenjy: Pitfall #1 |
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| 19:37.53 | jelly | !bash pitfalls |
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| 19:38.19 | kenjy | stew: it don't work |
| 19:38.27 | kenjy | stew: while read files ;do echo $files;done |
| 19:38.34 | kenjy | stew: it don't do nothing |
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| 19:39.02 | Newbee | when i suspend my notebook to ram and i wanna wake up, my notebook wakes up but its screen stays black |
| 19:39.09 | kenjy | stew: [kenjy@aries 2000]$ ls |
| 19:39.09 | kenjy | files |
| 19:39.09 | kenjy | [kenjy@aries 2000]$ |
| 19:39.38 | jelly | dpkg: bash pitfalls is <reply>Read about common sh/bash script mistakes at http://wooledge.org:8000/BashPitfalls |
| 19:39.38 | dpkg | okay, jelly |
| 19:40.14 | Newbee | dragonfly: when i suspend my notebook to ram and i wanna wake up, my notebook wakes up but its screen stays black |
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| 19:41.12 | enouf | binary blob no doubt |
| 19:41.17 | stew | kenjy: try while read file ; do echo $file ; done < files |
| 19:41.26 | stew | kenjy: note that the while loop needs input |
| 19:42.11 | kenjy | stew: ok now it do something but same error with files who have a space in its name |
| 19:42.11 | stew | kenjy: "while read files" means "read lines from stdin and assign them to the "files" variable". not "read lines from the file named files" |
| 19:42.33 | stew | kenjy: sho wme |
| 19:42.37 | stew | kenjy: show me* |
| 19:42.42 | xingu | jelly: I think I've made all of those mistakes on multiple occasions. :) |
| 19:43.25 | Newbee | enouf: do you mean that some proprietery drivers are causing this issue? |
| 19:43.31 | kenjy | stew: http://rafb.net/p/4WruO173.html |
| 19:43.48 | enouf | Newbee: yes, as a guess |
| 19:44.14 | Newbee | enouf: please excause my bad English. As you probably found out: I'am not a native speaker |
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| 19:44.15 | xingu | jelly: oh, I've never gotten fooled by subshells though, I'm ok with stack semantics. :) |
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| 19:45.05 | heffay | im trying to install lirc on lenny and for some reason nothing is showing up in me /dev. can someone lend me a hand? |
| 19:45.06 | enouf | your english is fine; however you're short on detailed info |
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| 19:45.23 | xingu | jelly: oh and compound conditionals never challenged me either, maybe I'm not as tragic as I thought |
| 19:45.24 | scorch_ | http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/8/82/Basement_hallway.gif <-- SFW |
| 19:45.31 | scorch_ | sorry, wrong channel |
| 19:45.47 | twobitsprite | xingu: use "$files" (with the quotes) |
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| 19:46.35 | heffay | im trying to install lirc on lenny and for some reason nothing is showing up in me /dev. can someone lend me a hand? |
| 19:46.52 | Newbee | enouf: yeah. I have installed the system this evening and as I thougt Debian is not installing binary blobs by default. I had no internet connection untill now and so I think that there are still no binary blobs on the system |
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| 19:47.38 | grandpapadot | How do you tell when openntpd has finally synced and can set time? |
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| 19:47.48 | stew | kenjy: grep -i 'utf' $file should be grep -i 'utf' "$file" |
| 19:48.01 | Newbee | enouf: Unfortunately I am not skilled enough to hunt the problem down. I not even have any idea where to grab some extra information. |
| 19:48.22 | kenjy | stew: tnks, it works now |
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| 19:48.56 | \3TATUK | simonrvn: but /etc/mime.types relies on filename extensions.. what if a filepath doesn't have a filename extension? |
| 19:49.00 | enouf | Newbee: sorry, i can't help much at the moment |
| 19:49.11 | \3TATUK | I want a mime lookup based somehow on the output of the `file` command |
| 19:49.29 | valdyn | !ususpend |
| 19:49.30 | valdyn | gah |
| 19:49.33 | \3TATUK | or another command which allows me to specify a FILE, not dependent on an extension |
| 19:49.58 | enouf | Newbee: but it appears i was wrong, perhaps, unless wifi/firmware/blobs somehow is involved |
| 19:50.04 | Newbee | enouf: I cannot help me, too. That's my problem. But thanks for your time and tries. ;-) |
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| 19:51.38 | valdyn | Newbee: follow this guide http://en.opensuse.org/S2ram |
| 19:51.43 | \3TATUK | or some `file` to filename extension mapping? |
| 19:51.50 | \3TATUK | which i can then map to /etc/mime.types |
| 19:51.57 | valdyn | Newbee: ( except where it talks about installing software, that does not apply to debian obviously ) |
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| 19:53.16 | jpinx | I have done "rsync -rv --remove-source-files /foo /bar" and now I want to confirm that all the files are gone from /bar and it's subdirectories. ls -alR is a bit of a blunt instrument because the dir tree is deep - can anyone help me with a more elegant solution please? |
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| 19:54.16 | valdyn | jpinx: when the parent directory is gone, then the files and directories within are gone too |
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| 19:55.05 | honschu | Hi, how to change the default fontsize for x11 apps? (like screensaver) |
| 19:55.30 | valdyn | jpinx: but im sure rsync would give an error when it fails deleting, so this is a waste of time |
| 19:56.08 | jpinx | valdyn: no - the complete dir tree is still there, but spot checking shows no files |
| 19:56.46 | valdyn | honschu: short answer: not possible in one place, long answer, use the right tool for each app and your desktop environment comes with one tool too |
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| 19:57.21 | foetus | hello. |
| 19:57.22 | honschu | valdyn: thx |
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| 20:00.25 | xingu | jpinx: (cd /foo && find .) | while read f; do [ -a "/bar/$f" ] && printf "%s\n" "$f"; done |
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| 20:00.37 | Newbee | valdyn: fortunately they have a link to the debian .deb file on there site. Very kind from the SUSE guys as i think. |
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| 20:00.44 | Newbee | viezerd: |
| 20:01.07 | Newbee | valdyn: I will hope and try the tool you recommended. |
| 20:01.21 | Newbee | valdyn: thanks for the tip :-) |
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| 20:02.00 | Janos | hey there, is there any way to know the person in charge of a mirror listed in the debian page ? or is there any standard procedure to report a non working mirror ? |
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| 20:03.15 | heffay | i cant seem to blacklist a kernel module. shouldnt creating /etc/modprobe.d/filename containing "blacklist module /bin/true" do the trick? |
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| 20:04.29 | enouf | heffay: /msg dpkg blacklist-initramfs (if applicable) |
| 20:04.51 | enouf | heffay: /msg dpkg bell :-P |
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| 20:06.16 | wrench- | question |
| 20:06.18 | wrench- | more like advice |
| 20:06.26 | wrench- | not necessarily debian related |
| 20:06.39 | wrench- | let's say a file in NFS was deleted |
| 20:06.55 | jpinx | xingu: thanks - that lists all the dirs, but doesn't tell me if they are empty. I'd prefer a list of non-empty dirs if possible;) |
| 20:06.55 | wrench- | it's isn't checked into any sort of scm |
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| 20:07.02 | wrench- | and isn't backed up |
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| 20:07.14 | xingu | jpinx: it only shows things that are in foo and also not in bar |
| 20:07.19 | enouf | jpinx: du |
| 20:07.20 | wrench- | is there anything that can be done to recover it? |
| 20:07.21 | xingu | jpinx: from the sounds of it - that's just the dirs. |
| 20:07.27 | PeterFA | How do I reinstall the kernel through the package manager? |
| 20:07.34 | xingu | jpinx: err sorry, only shows things that are in both foo and bar |
| 20:07.39 | xingu | jpinx: sorry, brainfart. |
| 20:07.40 | PeterFA | I'm sorry that's a lmgtfy type of question. |
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| 20:08.09 | PeterFA | (I just don't want to log into KDE and all that jazz just to find out how). |
| 20:08.27 | xingu | wrench-: the "nfs" bit is immaterial |
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| 20:08.49 | enouf | PeterFA: apt-get install --reinstall ... |
| 20:08.52 | xingu | wrench-: your real question is "can I undelete from whatever fstype is exported via nfs" |
| 20:08.55 | stew | wrench-: it depends on what the underlying filesystem is |
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| 20:09.05 | wrench- | it's a netapp |
| 20:09.21 | PeterFA | enouf: thanks for the reply, but what's the magic word for the Linux kernel? |
| 20:09.23 | xingu | wrench-: I can see a vendor support call in your immediate future. |
| 20:09.26 | chairman_ | can i run debian on kubuntu |
| 20:09.29 | wrench- | hehehehe |
| 20:09.33 | stew | wrench-: it doesn't matter. it matters what filesystem the file that was deleted was on. and then the answer is going to be a varying degree of "maybe" |
| 20:09.37 | enouf | PeterFA: linux-image-VERSION |
| 20:09.47 | PeterFA | enouf: oh, thanks. |
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| 20:10.00 | stew | chairman_: what do you mean? |
| 20:10.12 | wrench- | stew: whatever file system netapp uses |
| 20:10.14 | wrench- | wafl? |
| 20:10.25 | stew | oh, i don't know what netapp is |
| 20:10.32 | lepine_w | cant anyone recommend a free dns slave service? |
| 20:10.38 | lepine_w | *can |
| 20:10.38 | enouf | PeterFA: tab completion helps ;-) (and for running kernel linux-image-$(uname -r)) |
| 20:10.44 | wrench- | network appliance |
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| 20:11.04 | stew | wrench-: i don't know what that is |
| 20:11.37 | stew | wrench-: if you are asking if you can undelete a file deleted on nfs from the nfs client, the answer is going to be no. if this "netapp" thing is debian, then maybe |
| 20:12.49 | quique | does anyone know how to change the keyboard layout on a headless server? ie no X server |
| 20:13.01 | xingu | wrench-: http://support.cs.utah.edu/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=38&Itemid=66 |
| 20:13.02 | stew | quique: /msg dpkg keymap |
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| 20:13.27 | wrench- | xingu: shapshots were disabled |
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| 20:14.06 | xingu | wrench-: in that case the next stop is going to be a data recovery shop; and then probably a surgeon, to extract all the buckshot from your feet |
| 20:14.15 | kenjy | how can I make a list of files who have a specific string inside? |
| 20:14.16 | quique | stew: i get "-bash: /msg: No such file or directory" |
| 20:14.28 | wrench- | xingu: hehehehe |
| 20:14.40 | stew | dpkg: tell quique about keymap |
| 20:14.43 | wrench- | i didn't delete the file |
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| 20:15.04 | stew | quique: it was intended as a command to type into irc, not a shell. the bot named "dpkg" should have sent you a message |
| 20:15.17 | quique | ok |
| 20:15.30 | xingu | wrench-: no, but there's a decision point here for the no backups, no snapshots bit which is just as culpable |
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| 20:15.57 | Geek`N`Proud | wrench-: don't forget to drop the wafliron :P |
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| 20:16.02 | PeterFA | wails because 2.6.28 isn't there. |
| 20:16.23 | stew | PeterFA: isn't where? |
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| 20:16.32 | peterius | is there a gksu bug? |
| 20:16.37 | wrench- | xingu: indeed |
| 20:16.41 | peterius | update-manager isn't working for me |
| 20:16.55 | PeterFA | stew: I switched to Squeeze and did apt-cache search linux-image and found nothing for 2.6.28. |
| 20:17.05 | stew | PeterFA: no, its just recently entered unstable |
| 20:18.11 | PeterFA | I forget the labels again: Lenny == Stable, Sid == Unstable? |
| 20:18.14 | quique | dpkg: can you tell me how to change the keyboard layout via keymap? |
| 20:18.15 | dpkg | quique: are you using Windows? |
| 20:18.22 | quique | no debian |
| 20:18.25 | quique | why? |
| 20:18.29 | stew | quique: /msg dpkg keymay |
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| 20:18.34 | valdyn | !elisa |
| 20:18.34 | dpkg | somebody said elisa was expert, you not!! |
| 20:18.34 | stew | quique: note that dpkg is a bot |
| 20:18.40 | PeterFA | quique: dpkg is a bot. |
| 20:18.46 | quique | lol |
| 20:18.49 | stew | err /msg dpkg keymap |
| 20:18.53 | peterius | I've been told sid is always unstable, squeeze is testing |
| 20:19.01 | idimmu | use ubuntu |
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| 20:19.08 | stew | peterius: correct |
| 20:19.09 | nkuttler | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:19.26 | PeterFA | Ok, there we go. |
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| 20:19.51 | PeterFA | I had a really hard time getting Linux 2.6.28 working last time I tried. |
| 20:20.04 | peterius | why would my update-manager have no keys that mention squeeze, if I'm using testing? its all lenny and etch authentication? |
| 20:20.05 | PeterFA | I always got to the boot process where it tries to find init but can't and fails. |
| 20:20.15 | valdyn | peterius: why do you need 2.6.28? |
| 20:20.17 | PeterFA | Everytime, no matter what I did. I followed the instructions. |
| 20:20.28 | valdyn | PeterFA: ^^ |
| 20:20.32 | PeterFA | valdyn: two reasons: I hear of a speed improvement and I want to get my webcam working. |
| 20:20.34 | peterius | valdyn, you mean PeterFA, I have 2.6.28.7 kernel working |
| 20:20.52 | valdyn | peterius: yea |
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| 20:21.01 | jpinx | xingu: , enouf , fwiw - the answer was ls -aRl /home/johnp/backups/sticks.appended.by.rsync | grep - | less |
| 20:21.04 | valdyn | irssi tab completion is broken |
| 20:21.22 | valdyn | ( or I am ? ) |
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| 20:21.36 | PeterFA | valdyn: that looks like a one-line bash script :p |
| 20:21.36 | valdyn | PeterFA: you can use the sid package |
| 20:21.45 | PeterFA | valdyn: how do I pull it? |
| 20:21.51 | valdyn | !pdo |
| 20:21.51 | dpkg | http://packages.debian.org/ - here you can search for debian packages and their contents. Pretty Damned Obvious, isn't it?, or http://people.debian.org/, in some contexts. Maybe even http://planet.debian.org/ |
| 20:22.12 | PeterFA | grumbles as he logs into KDE4. |
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| 20:23.07 | PeterFA | Oh well, while KDE4 is loading... what shall I do? |
| 20:23.11 | PeterFA | just waits. |
| 20:23.18 | peterius | what is the "Update Manager" even part of as a package? |
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| 20:23.32 | valdyn | PeterFA: you install that kernel deb that you get at pdo |
| 20:23.58 | PeterFA | valdyn: I just download the deb straight from the repo manually and then do the dpkg magic on it? |
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| 20:24.07 | valdyn | PeterFA: yes |
| 20:24.11 | PeterFA | valdyn: ok. |
| 20:24.16 | johnrw | I think I built backported alsa from sid... for 686 correctly... is there some place i should donate the debs...? |
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| 20:24.52 | johnrw | I am now building pulseaudio 0.9.14 from source... |
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| 20:25.06 | valdyn | johnrw: is that more than "apt-get build-dep alsa-foo && apt-get -b source alsa-foo" ? |
| 20:25.14 | johnrw | yes |
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| 20:28.34 | johnrw | I had to build libasound2 and -dev and the -plugins and force upgrade libasound2 and -dev ...because -plugins failed... the only drastic thing I did was omit amd64-libs with dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc -d |
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| 20:29.00 | hallowname | k problem: on lenny, need cmake >=2.6.2 to compile kde4 trunk, best way to install cmake 2.6.3 on stable lenny? while keeping my system 'stable'? |
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| 20:30.48 | sylarrr | anyone knows how to update a kernel offline? |
| 20:31.13 | Spirit- | !multimedia |
| 20:31.13 | dpkg | methinks dmm is Debian Multimedia, a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for patent-related reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat. For information on how to use this repository, see http://debian-multimedia.org/ or ask me about <dmm etch> <dmm lenny> <dmm squeeze> |
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| 20:34.02 | valdyn | !ssd |
| 20:34.02 | dpkg | somebody said ssd was (Solid State Disk) The D in SSD is really a misnomer. SSD storage is basically a huge block of RAM chips that functions like a hard drive. SSD drives (obviously) are extremely expensive, but offer very high data speeds that are necessary in some applications. They can also be used as large caches on huge RAID subsystems. |
| 20:34.05 | valdyn | !ssb |
| 20:34.05 | dpkg | First: See if the package has already been backported. Ask me about <backports>. If it hasn't, 1) Add ONLY a "deb-src ..." line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get install build-essential; apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. If you are just wanting to change the compilation options, ask me about <package recompile>, or see <uupdate> if sid is too old |
| 20:34.09 | valdyn | hallowname: ^^ |
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| 20:35.40 | Kuifje111 | hello all. |
| 20:35.55 | honschu | I mount a nfs-share by /etc/fstab on boot. But when I shutdown the computer, it takes a long time with this message on: "RPC: failed to contact local rpcbind server (errno 5)" |
| 20:36.12 | Kuifje111 | why is i686 not included in this list? |
| 20:36.13 | Kuifje111 | http://packages.debian.org/unstable/main/transmission-daemon |
| 20:36.41 | valdyn | Kuifje111: because there is no debian architecture called "i686" |
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| 20:36.59 | Geek`N`Proud | Kuifje111: Debian only offers an i686 kernel.. nothing more |
| 20:37.07 | Kuifje111 | i dont understand what those architectures are |
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| 20:37.13 | Geek`N`Proud | the rest is tuned to i686 but includes i386 instructions |
| 20:37.16 | valdyn | Kuifje111: nothing in debian really supports i386 cpus anymore |
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| 20:37.20 | Geek`N`Proud | Kuifje111: you want i386 |
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| 20:37.42 | valdyn | Kuifje111: but changing the name is to difficult to be worth it |
| 20:37.42 | rhodan | hey, what's your favoured level of alcoholisation? mine's 1,7â° |
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| 20:37.51 | Geek`N`Proud | valdyn: my old machine kinda disagrees >.> |
| 20:37.57 | valdyn | Kuifje111: i386 = runs on 486 cpu and higher |
| 20:38.12 | nas | is there a way to fix dependencies when it says The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 20:38.14 | Kuifje111 | which architecture should i choose from that list to run on a i686 kernel? |
| 20:38.18 | Geek`N`Proud | only problem is 2.6.x doesn't work on i386 from my experience |
| 20:38.21 | valdyn | Geek`N`Proud: you run debian on a 386 cpu? lies... |
| 20:38.21 | nas | and than I try to get the ones listed and they list other ones etc |
| 20:38.22 | Geek`N`Proud | Kuifje111: i386 |
| 20:38.29 | nas | is there an option that will just get them all |
| 20:38.39 | nas | I try -f but it doesnt seem to do anything |
| 20:38.53 | hallowname | valdyn: thx!! |
| 20:39.06 | Geek`N`Proud | valdyn: not current Debian.. and not Linux 2.6.x |
| 20:39.26 | valdyn | Geek`N`Proud: sure, thats the point |
| 20:39.28 | Geek`N`Proud | and 4MB RAM isn't exactly enough to do much xD |
| 20:39.47 | Kuifje111 | Geek`N`Proud: should i add this line to my sources.list? "deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian sid main". and should i be able to apt-get install transmission-daemon then? |
| 20:40.02 | valdyn | sarge might have been the last release to actually support 386, maybe not even that one |
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| 20:40.18 | Geek`N`Proud | Kuifje111: only if you want to upgrade to unstable |
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| 20:40.42 | Geek`N`Proud | valdyn: theoretically etch would have been |
| 20:40.51 | Kuifje111 | geek`n`proud, transmission-daemon is not included in the default repositories |
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| 20:41.00 | Geek`N`Proud | 2.4.x could be stuffed into the small amount of resources needed |
| 20:41.13 | Geek`N`Proud | Kuifje111: then build it from source |
| 20:41.14 | valdyn | Geek`N`Proud: no, theres a g++ compiler issue too |
| 20:41.23 | valdyn | Geek`N`Proud: plenty of c++ source in debian |
| 20:41.41 | Geek`N`Proud | ah didn't know about that |
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| 20:41.58 | Geek`N`Proud | but I think limited RAM would be enough to invalidate that anyway xD |
| 20:42.00 | Kuifje111 | geek`n`proud, wanted to do that, but i dont know where i have to build it. shall I build it in /usr/bin/transmission-daemon/? |
| 20:42.12 | Geek`N`Proud | ? |
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| 20:42.30 | valdyn | judd: versions transmission-daemon |
| 20:42.31 | judd | valdyn: transmission-daemon -- squeeze: 1.50-1 sid: 1.51-1 |
| 20:42.33 | Kuifje111 | i dont know where i should compile it |
| 20:42.35 | Geek`N`Proud | !ssb > Kuifje111 |
| 20:42.42 | Kuifje111 | !ssb |
| 20:42.42 | dpkg | First: See if the package has already been backported. Ask me about <backports>. If it hasn't, 1) Add ONLY a "deb-src ..." line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get install build-essential; apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. If you are just wanting to change the compilation options, ask me about <package recompile>, or see <uupdate> if sid is too old |
| 20:42.44 | valdyn | Kuifje111: at $HOME |
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| 20:43.09 | Kuifje111 | ok, thanks valdyn |
| 20:43.20 | valdyn | Kuifje111: unless that is /root, then you need to solve that issue first |
| 20:43.41 | Kuifje111 | should I always install applications in my home dir? |
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| 20:43.57 | valdyn | Kuifje111: you asked where to compile, i told you where to compile |
| 20:44.17 | Kuifje111 | isnt there a sort of program files in linux? |
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| 20:44.30 | valdyn | !fhs |
| 20:44.31 | dpkg | Debian follows the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard. The filesystem is categorized by purpose, not application. This allows, for example, the easy and efficient deployment of a read-only /usr area across a number of thin clients. See http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ or install the 'debian-policy' package (/usr/share/doc/debian-policy/fhs/*), or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard |
| 20:44.39 | Kuifje111 | a dir to keep your applications, so it wont become a big mess? |
| 20:45.15 | sylarrr | is it possible to install to an offline disk from a package.deb ? |
| 20:45.19 | valdyn | Kuifje111: you could use /opt like windows uses Program Files |
| 20:45.37 | valdyn | Kuifje111: but build scripts dont really support this nicely |
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| 20:46.09 | valdyn | sylarrr: offline? |
| 20:46.22 | valdyn | !wayttd sylarrr |
| 20:46.22 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, sylarrr? |
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| 20:46.37 | Kuifje111 | all right, but if i want to execute a program for every dir like the applications touch, chmod, etc. will i have to put 'em in /usr/bin then? |
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| 20:46.46 | sylarrr | valdyn, I have a HD that doesn't boot in a new motherboard |
| 20:46.49 | valdyn | !unix lessons |
| 20:46.50 | dpkg | unix lessons is probably (1) Don't change the permissions, (2) back up your data, (3) keep it simple, stupid, (4) read the fscking manual, (5) don't fsck with package management, (6) don't type anything you don't understand, (7) always have a boot floppy or CD, (8) read your log files, (9) the FIRST error is the one that counts, (10) don't leave your root shell until you TEST your changes, (11) don't be root when you don't have to be |
| 20:46.54 | valdyn | Kuifje111: read ^^ |
| 20:47.34 | valdyn | Kuifje111: ~/bin is not uncommon, /usr/local/bin is popular, /usr/bin is plain evil |
| 20:47.36 | sylarrr | valdyn, I try to put a new kernel on it, so it will boot |
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| 20:47.45 | sylarrr | valdyn, while using a livecd |
| 20:47.50 | valdyn | !chroot |
| 20:47.50 | dpkg | i heard chroot is a way to change the root directory of a process, see also http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.en.html#s-chroot |
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| 20:48.18 | valdyn | sylarrr: chroot enables you to use that existing debian installation like you booted into it |
| 20:48.31 | valdyn | sylarrr: which then enables you to properly install debian packages |
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| 20:49.08 | rahsputin | hi, i just made a fresh LENNY STABLE install, and can only find Iceape-dev and iceape-dev-bin where did the other packages go like iceape-browser.... |
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| 20:49.34 | valdyn | rahsputin: gone, not in lenny |
| 20:50.01 | rahsputin | valdyn: is there any Alternative other than Iceweasel ? |
| 20:50.04 | sylarrr | valdyn, so I chroot and install etchnhalf? |
| 20:50.23 | valdyn | rahsputin: konqueror, epiphany |
| 20:50.33 | valdyn | rahsputin: whats wrong with iceweasel compared to iceape? |
| 20:50.50 | Jemt | Hi. Could someone with a Debian Lenny on a laptop with a secondary screen check whether they are able to switch between the monitors using ie Fn+F7 ? It dosn't work for me on any of my laptops (2 Acer laptops, 1 IBM Thinkpad X31) |
| 20:51.27 | rahsputin | valdyn: nothing, just am used to using it |
| 20:52.15 | hallowname | i gotta say im loving the iceweasel here :D |
| 20:53.04 | rahsputin | valdyn: and i have some emails that i took over from firefox(windows) and wanted to build them into the email system |
| 20:53.12 | rahsputin | from iceape |
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| 20:53.52 | lepine_w | is everydns.net supposed to be dead? |
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| 20:55.40 | Kuifje111 | ok, i got the idea of /usr/bin |
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| 20:56.41 | hallowname | Kuifje111: the folder with the user's binaries :) being from america makes understanding unix a lot easier i think... too much so... |
| 20:57.26 | Kuifje111 | well, having english as your native tongue would indeed help, I assume |
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| 20:58.30 | Spirit- | !dmm etch |
| 20:58.30 | dpkg | To add the debian-multimedia repository run (as root) # echo "deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list; aptitude update && aptitude install debian-multimedia-keyring && aptitude update. For an alternative way to load Marillat's archive key, ask me about <apt-key 1F41B907>. |
| 20:59.10 | Spirit- | !dmm lenny |
| 20:59.10 | dpkg | To add the debian-multimedia repository run (as root) # echo "deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ lenny main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list; aptitude update && aptitude install debian-multimedia-keyring && aptitude update. For an alternative way to load Marillat's archive key, ask me about <apt-key 1F41B907>. |
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| 21:03.33 | varney | errm, where are the debian 4r7 cds for download? i looked all over the debian site, probably missed it.,. |
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| 21:06.23 | varney | anyone? |
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| 21:07.08 | dustybin | i am proud of my debian lenny server |
| 21:07.11 | dustybin | Hostname: private - OS: Linux 2.6.26-1-686/i686 - CPU: 2 x Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 (3192.097 MHz) - Processes: 165 - Uptime: 24d 6h 8m - Load Average: 1.08 - Memory Usage: 391.98MB/1011.42MB (38.76%) - Disk Usage: 334.56GB/1132.98GB (29.53%) |
| 21:07.54 | Newbee | valdyn: I have installed the software you recommended (s2ram), but it doesn't run. It says that it is unable to initialize its frontend. I cannot make anything out of this. Help would be warmly welcome. |
| 21:07.58 | varney | i tried lenny and it won't install |
| 21:08.08 | Vyrus001 | how do i install the 32bit version of libXext.so.6 on 64bit debian? |
| 21:08.14 | Geek`N`Proud | varney: what trouble do you get? |
| 21:08.29 | Vonor | dustybin, such a waste of resources...install gentoo instead :D |
| 21:08.30 | varney | net install hangs on 'partition manager', booting from cd1 iso, hangs on detecting hardware |
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| 21:08.38 | fignew | dustybin: what's it serving? |
| 21:08.42 | varney | so i'm wanting to try out etch again |
| 21:08.43 | adama__ | dustybin: very nice. Don't listen to Vonor |
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| 21:09.04 | varney | Geek`N`Proud: so where do i download etch cd1 from? |
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| 21:09.25 | fignew | lol, gentoo on a server, now that's funny |
| 21:09.30 | dustybin | fignew: MythTV Frontend / Backend, Bind9, Postfix, NFS/SAMBA, ZoneMinder, Heyu (X10), irssi, rtorrent, etc |
| 21:09.30 | Geek`N`Proud | varney: what problem did you have installing lenny? |
| 21:09.36 | Vonor | adama__, heh |
| 21:09.44 | varney | Geek`N`Proud: see above |
| 21:09.54 | Vonor | adama__, oly reason i use lenny on my netra is because am too lazy to build gentoo again :D |
| 21:09.59 | Kuifje111 | when i try to build transmission by using make, it says "no targets given and no makefile has been found" |
| 21:10.08 | Geek`N`Proud | varney: is that on a graphical or text install? |
| 21:10.10 | varney | if you don't believe me: http://ftp.esat.net/pub/linux/debian/dists/oldstable/ <- where are the damn cd isos? |
| 21:10.19 | varney | Geek`N`Proud: graphical |
| 21:10.22 | fignew | dustybin: you got that thing pretty loaded, how many cameras on zoneminder? |
| 21:10.42 | dustybin | fignew: just 1 webcam at the moment, when i get my own place ill rig a few IP cameras to it |
| 21:11.06 | varney | i just debian 4 or 5 installed on this crap dell e521, is that so much to ask..problems problems problems :/ |
| 21:11.11 | varney | *want |
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| 21:12.31 | Kuifje111 | anyone has a clue why it's giving me that error message? |
| 21:12.54 | adama__ | Kuifje111: did you run ./configure ? |
| 21:12.57 | Kuifje111 | yeah |
| 21:13.06 | varney | Geek`N`Proud: any idea? |
| 21:13.10 | Kuifje111 | i ran that in the first place |
| 21:13.17 | adama__ | that is supposed to create the Makefile, it didn't? |
| 21:13.50 | Kuifje111 | seems like it didnt |
| 21:13.51 | dustybin | fignew: do you run a debian box at home? |
| 21:13.59 | Geek`N`Proud | varney: I can't find an etch ISO yet |
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| 21:14.02 | Geek`N`Proud | gimme a sec |
| 21:14.08 | adb | varney: http://ftp.acc.umu.se/cdimage/archive/4.0_r7/i386/iso-cd/ |
| 21:14.20 | Geek`N`Proud | ooh neat |
| 21:14.28 | varney | adb: wth? how come it isn't on debian site? |
| 21:14.35 | varney | under debian-cd |
| 21:14.51 | Geek`N`Proud | varney: it could be burning issues btw - cdrkit makes coasters every time for me |
| 21:14.53 | varney | adb: thanks, btw ;) |
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| 21:15.07 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:15.20 | varney | Geek`N`Proud: well i've tried to install the netinstall iso with unetbootin, hangs on Partition loader |
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| 21:16.02 | stew | varney: you can get isos from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ if you want to get it from an official debian machine. 4.0 would be in "archive" 5.0 would be in "release" |
| 21:16.03 | varney | debian 5 cd1 hangs for quite a while on different things, i get past them with ctrl+c, until the system appears to hang indefinitely on hardware detection |
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| 21:16.18 | stew | varney: instead of unetbootin, we'd recommend using the procedure in the install guide (/msg dpkg ig) |
| 21:16.21 | Kuifje111 | adama__: it's made a makefile.am and a makefile.in |
| 21:16.38 | Geek`N`Proud | varney: use Expert Mode to get round that |
| 21:16.46 | stew | varney: the hardware detection can take a while. how long did you wait until you hit ctrl-c ? |
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| 21:16.53 | varney | about 10 minutes |
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| 21:17.13 | varney | ever seen the error message "mp-bios bug 8254 timer not connected to io-apic" |
| 21:17.17 | Geek`N`Proud | varney: use Expert Mode.. it asks questions regarding hardware |
| 21:17.21 | Geek`N`Proud | varney: yes I get it |
| 21:17.34 | Geek`N`Proud | it affects multiprocessor machines only |
| 21:17.38 | varney | Geek`N`Proud: i have used expert mode, i don't see anything special |
| 21:17.43 | varney | i don't get options |
| 21:17.49 | varney | i use Graphical expert btw |
| 21:17.56 | varney | should i use text expert mode? |
| 21:17.59 | Geek`N`Proud | it should ask "Start PC Card Services" at that stage |
| 21:18.21 | Geek`N`Proud | choosing "No" solves hangs in some situations |
| 21:18.29 | varney | ye, i didn't get that 'pcmcia' prompt in the cd install, only in the netboot iso with unetbootin |
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| 21:18.51 | varney | even then when i said no it made no difference |
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| 21:19.19 | Geek`N`Proud | try disabling all devices you don't need on the CMOS settings |
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| 21:19.56 | Geek`N`Proud | things like Firewire and unnecessary USB devices can do it occasionally |
| 21:19.58 | varney | u mean in my bios? |
| 21:20.02 | Geek`N`Proud | yeps |
| 21:20.06 | varney | hmm ok |
| 21:20.08 | varney | :? |
| 21:20.10 | varney | :/ |
| 21:20.14 | adb | !tell varney about dell |
| 21:21.03 | RiotingPacifist` | "resize2fs /dev/mapper/internal-opt 203712" tells me that "On-line shrinking from 243712 to 203712 not supported." the partition is empty though :s |
| 21:22.34 | adama__ | RiotingPacifist: unmount it |
| 21:23.19 | RiotingPacifist` | i thought ext3 online resizing had been around for years though |
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| 21:24.09 | stew | RiotingPacifist`: yes for growing, but not for shrinking |
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| 21:28.00 | PeterFA | Now that I'm using Squeeze, how often should I be updating since I'm using a desktop? |
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| 21:42.09 | sylarrr | valdyn, thanks that worked and I could boot |
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| 21:43.49 | sylarrr | I still have one problem when I installed linuximage etchnhalf , it updated grub, and reset all the HDs to sdd1 instead of sda1, and hd3 instead of hd0, and I don't know where it got these values, but obviously there is a place where it is written that my system disk is the 4th disk |
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| 21:43.59 | sylarrr | anyone know where it is written? |
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| 21:44.07 | sylarrr | where grub took this data from? |
| 21:44.14 | stew | sylarrr: /boot/grub/device.map |
| 21:44.38 | sylarrr | stew, device map say hd3 is sdd |
| 21:44.52 | sylarrr | but not that my root is on sdd |
| 21:45.04 | stew | sylarrr: /boot/grub/menu.lst then |
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| 21:45.27 | sylarrr | where in menu.lst |
| 21:45.54 | stew | sylarrr: /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 21:46.00 | stew | oh, where in |
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| 21:46.16 | stew | sylarrr: which root do you mean linux's root or grub's root? |
| 21:46.43 | sylarrr | I see there is a ## default grub root device |
| 21:46.49 | berat | i hope it is suitable channel for that question. my java compile Eclipse Java Compiler v_774_R33x, 3.3.1, Copyright IBM Corp 2000, 2007. All rights reserved. |
| 21:46.49 | berat | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:46.51 | sylarrr | # groot=(hd3,0) |
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| 21:47.00 | sylarrr | but this is commented out |
| 21:47.05 | sylarrr | no? |
| 21:47.07 | stew | sylarrr: yes, that tell grub where to find its files |
| 21:47.08 | stew | sylarrr: no |
| 21:47.24 | sylarrr | it isn't comented out? |
| 21:47.29 | stew | sylarrr: that comment is read by update-grub and is propagated as a "root" line to each of the kernels in the AUTOMAGIC section |
| 21:47.44 | stew | sylarrr: its not an instruction for grub, its an instruction for update-grub, and that # needs to be there |
| 21:47.49 | sylarrr | stew, I have noticed that |
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| 21:48.17 | sylarrr | stew, it has overwritten all my changes to hd0 and sda |
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| 21:48.22 | berat | hey |
| 21:48.24 | sylarrr | so that is why |
| 21:48.28 | sylarrr | !customer |
| 21:48.28 | dpkg | A satisfied customer? We should have him stuffed! |
| 21:48.54 | stew | sylarrr: that you should change in the # kopt= line |
| 21:48.56 | sylarrr | dpkg come on I am happy |
| 21:48.56 | dpkg | sylarrr: I don't know, could you explain it? |
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| 21:49.17 | stew | sylarrr: (and then re-run update-grub) |
| 21:49.30 | sylarrr | ah |
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| 21:49.47 | berat | i want to delete eclipse java compile from my machine how can i do it |
| 21:50.02 | sylarrr | ok, I will give more attention to the single # lines |
| 21:50.17 | Wyg | Hey, when I try to boot up Debian my monitor gives me an 'out of range' error. I'm trying to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but when I ctrl-alt-backspace out of X-server, I either a) Get the out of range error again or b) Get a nice command line but the screen doesn't 'scroll' with the output. |
| 21:50.41 | Wyg | How can I fix this? Is there a switch I can add in grub to boot Debian in command-line mode? |
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| 21:52.30 | braydon_ | when I try installing gnome I am getting a bunch of dependency problems, I am running unstable, testing, and stable in my apt sources... |
| 21:52.46 | Jemt | Wyg: Boot the kernel like this to start it in rescue mode: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18-6-686 root=/dev/disk/by-uuid/6a9cd6d8-130e-42f7-bff1-5d8cb0718b7b ro single |
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| 21:53.45 | Wyg | Alright, I'll give that a go. |
| 21:53.48 | Wyg | Thanks. |
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| 22:01.28 | lbt | as a non-root user on a remote box how can I check to see if a package could be installed (ie "apt-get install libreadline4-dev" would work and the package is available at one of the sources.list) |
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| 22:05.11 | Geek`N`Proud | lbt: apt-cache search libreadline4-dev |
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| 22:06.16 | lbt | Geek`N`Proud: thanks :) I was digging through dpkg-query docs to start |
| 22:06.51 | sajes | I got my eeepc 1000ha today, and I've been trying to install squeeze on it through a usb flash drive, but every time I try, instead of using the flash drive it tries to detect a non-existant cdrom drive, and then quits the installation when it can't find one. |
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| 22:20.45 | Dillizar | i need help i am ubuntu user and i am installing a debian program and in the end i need to execute->webcam |
| 22:20.48 | Dillizar | what is execute |
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| 22:21.42 | nkuttler | wtf, mysqld just stopped on three servers at the same time |
| 22:23.08 | Geek`N`Proud | Dillizar: the word execute means "to run" |
| 22:23.19 | Dillizar | aaaaaaaa |
| 22:23.20 | Dillizar | :) |
| 22:23.22 | Dillizar | thanks |
| 22:24.29 | nsadmin | or "to do" |
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| 22:27.37 | Dillizar | Module gspca not found. what is this |
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| 22:30.37 | nsadmin | Dillizar: something that was looking for that module failed to find it |
| 22:32.52 | Dillizar | how can i install that module nsadmin |
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| 22:37.08 | nsadmin | Dillizar: if debian packages it, it will be built for different kernels, each in separate packages |
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| 22:40.58 | patrick-1 | hey all, my lanboot process wont go any further than "Trying to load: pxelinux.cfg/default" any ideas ? |
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| 22:41.16 | patrick-1 | its the official debian "netboot.tar.gz" tarball |
| 22:41.20 | leandroalmeida | alguem do brasil? |
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| 22:45.04 | mischief6 | can anyone tell me why trying to forward X gives "cannot open display: localhost:10.0"? x11 forwarding is enabled in ssh.. |
| 22:45.20 | CoolCold | xauth? |
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| 22:45.46 | mischief6 | uh, i am using putty and Cygwin-X from a windows host |
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| 22:48.35 | SPF | mischief6: xhost + |
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| 22:49.13 | stew | one should pretty much never use "xhost +" |
| 22:49.13 | SPF | mischief6: that enables X windows access to cygwin |
| 22:49.18 | mischief6 | SPF, i used to be able to forward × before i upgraded to lenny, is this something new? |
| 22:49.21 | stew | its a HUGE security hole |
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| 22:49.33 | mischief6 | this is the second thing that lenny has broken for me :x |
| 22:49.37 | stew | mischief6: /msg dpkg sshx |
| 22:50.23 | nivanson | hi, my server is not able to boot. I get a message about Multiply-claimed block(s) at fsck during boot. The fsck stops at that point. How can I fix this problem? |
| 22:50.33 | CoolCold | mischief6: i've missed xauth someday and could't start X app with putty |
| 22:50.37 | dondelelcaro | xhost is pretty much a program that you shouldn't use, unless you know precisely why you shouldn't use it, which usually means that you don't. |
| 22:51.11 | dondelelcaro | nivanson: which filesystem? re-run fsck manually |
| 22:51.26 | stew | i had friends in college that used to steal hundreds of passwords a day from people using xhost |
| 22:51.28 | SPF | mischief6: why dont you start a connection from cygwin itself? with ssh -X ? |
| 22:51.31 | CoolCold | mischief6: just install xbase-clients and try |
| 22:51.40 | nivanson | dondelelcaro: ext3. I need to boot from ... like a livecd to to the fsck manually then right? |
| 22:51.47 | mischief6 | CoolCold, i am in lenny? |
| 22:52.02 | dondelelcaro | nivanson: no, assuming you can mount / readonly, you can run fsck |
| 22:52.03 | CoolCold | i don't know, are u in lenny or not :) |
| 22:52.28 | CoolCold | if you mean should you install xauth on lenny, then yes |
| 22:52.33 | mischief6 | SPF, i don't have ssh installed in cygwin -.- this worked with PuTTy before i upgraded to lenny |
| 22:53.12 | CoolCold | mischief6: doesn't putty log say anything? |
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| 22:53.26 | mischief6 | i don't log. :x let me try, though |
| 22:53.40 | nivanson | dondelelcaro: ok i should be able to do that, thanks |
| 22:53.54 | kr1s | Hi, did someone know why i cant create new mailing list with mailman per web interface? |
| 22:54.01 | kr1s | "Error: You are not authorized to create new mailing lists" |
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| 22:54.35 | mischief6 | aha, CoolCold "/usr/bin/X11/xauth: error in locking authority file /home/mischief/.Xauthority" |
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| 22:54.50 | mischief6 | i think this problem stems from my other problem. i can't login to GDM successfully on the machine |
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| 22:55.59 | mischief6 | CoolCold, i think i may have found the problem. |
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| 22:56.34 | CoolCold | mischief6: okay |
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| 22:58.53 | mischief6 | hmm, i still cannot forward X or log in to GDM. but .Xauthority was owned by root |
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| 22:59.10 | sylarrr | how do I make aptitude not remove stuff for me? |
| 22:59.25 | CoolCold | time to look into /var/log/auth.log /var/log/daemon.log ;) |
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| 22:59.47 | dondelelcaro | sylarrr: as in what stuff? |
| 22:59.58 | at0m|c | mischief6: was suspecting a sudo had changed that .Xauthority to root |
| 23:00.01 | jakobbg | hi. generically speaking when trying to make an as quick and small build as possible, is --disable-shared or --enable-shared advisable? And what about the same for -static? |
| 23:00.01 | sylarrr | packages that it thinks are not used |
| 23:00.12 | sylarrr | dondelelcaro, ^ |
| 23:00.28 | dondelelcaro | sylarrr: then run aptitude unmarkauto foopkg; |
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| 23:00.51 | sylarrr | ok |
| 23:00.53 | dondelelcaro | sylarrr: or similar commands using the curses interface; see the aptitude manpage (and manual) for more details |
| 23:00.53 | sylarrr | thanks |
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| 23:00.56 | dondelelcaro | np |
| 23:00.59 | CoolCold | away |
| 23:01.11 | sylarrr | I am used to synaptic |
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| 23:01.46 | at0m|c | mischief6: a "sudo chown mischief:mischief /home/mischief/.Xauthority" should solve that |
| 23:02.03 | mischief6 | i already chown'd it, it didn't help |
| 23:02.22 | kleanchap | I did "apt-get update" on my system and it looks like it only downloaded. How do I get apt-get to update and install the updates? |
| 23:02.28 | mischief6 | in /var/log/daemon.log there are messages about fatal X errors, which are probably from when i try to log in to gdm |
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| 23:02.39 | hatter243 | kleanchap, apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
| 23:02.48 | at0m|c | mischief6: "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" didnt start x? |
| 23:02.56 | kleanchap | hatter243: I will try that. |
| 23:03.03 | mischief6 | at0m|c, X is started on the machine |
| 23:03.21 | mischief6 | but when i try to log in, my WM crashes and i am brought back to gdm |
| 23:03.24 | at0m|c | mischief6: ah but you're stuck in gdm? |
| 23:03.26 | at0m|c | right |
| 23:03.30 | mischief6 | yes, twm works but xfce doesn't |
| 23:03.44 | rahsputin | Hi. I just installed xsane..... when i use root to scanimage -L and scanimage > test.jpg all is OK, but Xsane cannot find any scanners |
| 23:03.48 | mischief6 | nor can i forward x..this all started when i upgraded to lenny from etch |
| 23:03.54 | at0m|c | hm did you upgrade your kernel and did you loose opengl? |
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| 23:04.08 | valdyn | at0m|c: nvidia drivers? |
| 23:04.08 | at0m|c | what video card driver? |
| 23:04.14 | valdyn | ops |
| 23:04.18 | at0m|c | valdyn: that's what i suspect now |
| 23:04.23 | valdyn | mischief6: nvidia drivers? |
| 23:04.24 | mischief6 | no nVidia |
| 23:04.30 | valdyn | mischief6: which drivers? |
| 23:04.30 | mischief6 | it's a very old machine actually :p |
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| 23:04.36 | mischief6 | i didn't install any drivers |
| 23:04.51 | quentusrex_ | How do I find out what is causing all the 'Wait-IO' on my server? |
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| 23:05.08 | valdyn | quentusrex_: guess |
| 23:05.12 | quentusrex_ | The load is up near 1.00 and 95% of that is because of Wait-IO |
| 23:05.21 | valdyn | quentusrex_: no |
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| 23:05.50 | mischief6 | at0m|c, X forwarding seems to work now, odd :| |
| 23:06.02 | Moe|Joe | hey, can anyone here check this x.config for me please |
| 23:06.08 | Moe|Joe | http://pastebin.com/d39b77c9e |
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| 23:06.13 | valdyn | quentusrex_: your system is constantly at 95% io wait? |
| 23:06.25 | Moe|Joe | coz its not loading x.org with tht |
| 23:06.40 | quentusrex_ | my processor is constantly at 95% used by wait-io |
| 23:06.51 | valdyn | quentusrex_: no, your cpu is not at 95% |
| 23:07.00 | sylarrr | there is something wrong about dpkg etch->lenny |
| 23:07.00 | quentusrex_ | No, |
| 23:07.01 | valdyn | quentusrex_: io-wait is an idle processor |
| 23:07.09 | at0m|c | mischief6: well if local login doesnt work, i'd suspect a driver option missing for your WM (which might need opengl for transparancy etc) |
| 23:07.13 | quentusrex_ | my cpu is at 0-1% |
| 23:07.18 | quentusrex_ | but the load is at 1.00 |
| 23:07.25 | valdyn | quentusrex_: right |
| 23:07.31 | at0m|c | mischief6: just an idea, don't know that much eh |
| 23:07.36 | quentusrex_ | and after looking at a bunch of stats, it's the waitio causing the load... |
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| 23:07.49 | at0m|c | mischief6: that would also explain why the other WM would log in ok |
| 23:07.50 | sylarrr | it tells me to do aptitude safe-upgrade, and when I do it aptitude doesnt' recognize "safe-upgrade" |
| 23:08.01 | sylarrr | and also not "full-upgrade" |
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| 23:08.08 | sylarrr | !etch->lenny |
| 23:08.11 | valdyn | quentusrex_: disk? network? whats doing i/o? |
| 23:08.16 | swolchok | how do I prevent system USB drivers from claiming devices? |
| 23:08.21 | valdyn | quentusrex_: iostat can probably enlighten you |
| 23:08.30 | quentusrex_ | valdyn: I'll check iostats |
| 23:08.32 | swolchok | I'm trying to poke at my ipod in VMWare and it's getting claimed by all kinds of bizarre linux drivers before VMWare can get to it |
| 23:08.39 | mischief6 | at0m|c, i am using xfce, it was working before i got lenny :( |
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| 23:08.48 | valdyn | quentusrex_: or iotop |
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| 23:08.59 | sylarrr | dpkg etch->lenny |
| 23:08.59 | dpkg | Read the release notes, ask me about <lenny release notes>. Ensure your Etch installation is up to date (aptitude update; aptitude dist-upgrade). Edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and change all non-local mentions of "etch" or "stable" to "lenny". aptitude update; aptitude install aptitude; aptitude safe-upgrade; aptitude full-upgrade. Also ask about <apt-listbugs>, <etch->lenny key>. |
| 23:09.12 | sylarrr | aptitude safe-upgrade? |
| 23:09.15 | valdyn | quentusrex_: actually, i meant iotop, but iostat is useful too, not to find the cause, but to see whats actually happening |
| 23:09.38 | at0m|c | mischief6: did you run through the xfce options? maybe temporarily "mv ~/.xfce (or wherever the settings are stored) ~/.xfce.bak" ? |
| 23:10.31 | at0m|c | mischief6: after that, i wouldn't know eh |
| 23:10.51 | mischief6 | lol...trying to find where the settings are stored right now :) |
| 23:10.52 | valdyn | swolchok: that kind of does not make sense |
| 23:11.17 | valdyn | swolchok: unless vmware ships its own usb-storage drivers |
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| 23:11.18 | Kr1st0ff | hey guys is there a bash IM you can use? |
| 23:11.33 | at0m|c | Kr1st0ff: irssi ? |
| 23:11.33 | swolchok | valdyn: i would expect it to be doing raw access to the device |
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| 23:11.52 | at0m|c | Kr1st0ff: irssi works splendid w screen ;) |
| 23:11.54 | valdyn | swolchok: thats fucked up |
| 23:11.54 | mischief6 | Kr1st0ff, finch |
| 23:11.57 | swolchok | and if the linux driver does some preliminary poking, that's going to screw things up |
| 23:12.04 | swolchok | valdyn: how else are you supposed to make guest OS drivers work? |
| 23:12.35 | sylarrr | anyone knows how to upgrade to lenny? |
| 23:12.35 | valdyn | swolchok: vmware should interface with the linux usb-storage block device |
| 23:12.36 | Kr1st0ff | at0mic: thats an IRC client :) |
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| 23:13.05 | valdyn | swolchok: but maybe its really doing things i know nothing about, i havent seen virtualised systems access physical hardware directly, thats just crazy |
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| 23:13.48 | mischief6 | valdyn, some do |
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| 23:13.57 | at0m|c | Kr1st0ff: what else is there to IM :D |
| 23:14.01 | valdyn | swolchok: more likely what you think should happen is just not possible |
| 23:14.04 | Moe|Joe | blah just tried changing something |
| 23:14.05 | valdyn | mischief6: like? |
| 23:14.06 | Moe|Joe | and it buggers up |
| 23:14.07 | Moe|Joe | lol |
| 23:14.16 | mischief6 | valdyn, bluepill, to name one ;D |
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| 23:14.25 | Moe|Joe | anyone able to help with this x.org config then? |
| 23:14.26 | Moe|Joe | http://pastebin.com/d39b77c9e |
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| 23:14.31 | Kr1st0ff | at0mic: well my friend has a crappy mac who doesnt work with gadu gadu |
| 23:14.39 | swolchok | mischief6: I'm doing a project with the SubVirt guy :) |
| 23:14.52 | mischief6 | lol |
| 23:14.54 | Kr1st0ff | so im trying to use a ssh console app on my server |
| 23:14.58 | valdyn | mischief6: a root kit? |
| 23:15.12 | mischief6 | no lol |
| 23:15.25 | Kr1st0ff | since mac has X11 but doesnt work with ssh -X :/ |
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| 23:16.00 | pl4yer0ne | Kr1st0ff, centerim ayttm |
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| 23:16.27 | pl4yer0ne | licq as well i think has a console plugin |
| 23:16.28 | nkuttler | Kr1st0ff: you probably want to install your own sshd/x then, see fink and macports |
| 23:16.44 | Moe|Joe | anyone able to help me with my problem? |
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| 23:17.00 | Kr1st0ff | nkuttler: already got sshd working, the im is the problem now :P |
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| 23:17.05 | pl4yer0ne | Moe|Joe, would help if you tell us what it is? |
| 23:17.14 | nkuttler | Moe|Joe: or tell us the error |
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| 23:17.22 | Moe|Joe | http://pastebin.com/d39b77c9e |
| 23:17.27 | Moe|Joe | that x.org config |
| 23:17.31 | Moe|Joe | it doesnt seem to work |
| 23:17.35 | nkuttler | Moe|Joe: well, read it |
| 23:17.53 | avu | !doesn't work |
| 23:17.53 | dpkg | Look buddy, "doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message". |
| 23:18.25 | Moe|Joe | well i edited that x.org config and it comes up with the error no screens found |
| 23:18.35 | pl4yer0ne | why did you edit it? |
| 23:18.40 | Moe|Joe | well |
| 23:18.41 | avu | and what did you change? |
| 23:18.47 | Moe|Joe | im running debian on my mac |
| 23:18.49 | Moe|Joe | and |
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| 23:18.56 | Moe|Joe | this is my original x.org config.. |
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| 23:18.57 | avu | !enter |
| 23:18.57 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
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| 23:20.09 | nkuttler | !no screens found |
| 23:20.09 | dpkg | [screens found] not a useful message - it means X11 has a problem somewhere with something. Read your /var/log/Xorg.0.log more closely, and look for the real error, which probably begins with (EE), or - ask me about <troubleshooting x>. |
| 23:20.42 | Moe|Joe | thanks |
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| 23:22.29 | Moe|Joe | im lookin at this log and i havnt got a clue what im lookin at :( |
| 23:22.53 | avu | Moe|Joe, start with lines beginning with (EE) as dpkg suggested |
| 23:22.56 | nsadmin | it could be written in english... |
| 23:23.05 | pl4yer0ne | Moe|Joe, look for lines that start with the error mark (EE) |
| 23:23.07 | Moe|Joe | there arnt any |
| 23:23.08 | Moe|Joe | :S |
| 23:23.14 | Kr1st0ff | mischief6: thanks finch is what I was looking for :) |
| 23:23.23 | Moe|Joe | wait a sec |
| 23:23.29 | nkuttler | Moe|Joe: grep for EE |
| 23:23.43 | pl4yer0ne | nkuttler, awww now we're gonna have to explain grep |
| 23:23.43 | Moe|Joe | tht log wud be for the x.org sesion i just started |
| 23:23.52 | nkuttler | pl4yer0ne: man grep |
| 23:24.06 | pl4yer0ne | man man |
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| 23:24.22 | Moe|Joe | Parse error on line 47 of section ServerLayout in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 23:24.23 | Moe|Joe | This section must have an Identifier line. |
| 23:24.23 | Moe|Joe | (EE) Problem parsing the config file |
| 23:24.23 | Moe|Joe | (EE) Error parsing the config file |
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| 23:24.32 | Moe|Joe | woops |
| 23:24.34 | Moe|Joe | thts the rror |
| 23:24.39 | abrotman | use paste.debian.net |
| 23:24.39 | nkuttler | !tell Moe|Joe about paste |
| 23:24.53 | avu | Moe|Joe, well, read the first line of what you just pasted :) |
| 23:24.59 | Moe|Joe | yeh i just did |
| 23:25.00 | Moe|Joe | lol |
| 23:26.57 | stew | Moe|Joe: what version of debian are you running? |
| 23:27.15 | Moe|Joe | distro[Debian 5.0] |
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| 23:27.35 | stew | Moe|Joe: you might try "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" |
| 23:28.01 | Moe|Joe | yeh i done that to get the xserver back working |
| 23:28.09 | Moe|Joe | i need to add lines from this page... |
| 23:28.26 | Moe|Joe | http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/Intel%20with%20AiGLX |
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| 23:30.21 | Moe|Joe | need to add a identifier line |
| 23:30.24 | Moe|Joe | so it says |
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| 23:33.33 | nsadmin | what's an identifier line? |
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| 23:34.26 | avu | nsadmin, a line that defines the identifier? :) |
| 23:34.27 | stew | Moe|Joe: are you sure that stuff isn't all enabled by default? |
| 23:34.30 | avu | nsadmin, Identifier "foo" |
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| 23:35.00 | nsadmin | whatwould foo then identify |
| 23:35.22 | stew | Moe|Joe: most if not all of that stuff would already be enabled with a default (minimal) xorg.conf |
| 23:35.27 | gryfie | pidgin tells me, my icq-client is to old. Am I right, pidgin won't be updated until I use dist-upgrade ? |
| 23:35.28 | gryfie | (using lenny) |
| 23:35.31 | avu | nsadmin, as the error message said, each ServerLayout section needs such an identifier |
| 23:35.42 | avu | nsadmin, and the Identifier identifies the ServerLayout section :) |
| 23:35.47 | nsadmin | too old to be bold? |
| 23:35.55 | valdyn | Moe|Joe: why are you doing this? |
| 23:35.56 | avu | nsadmin, see xorg.conf(5) |
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| 23:36.14 | valdyn | Moe|Joe: you are using old docs, compiz runs by default |
| 23:36.21 | nsadmin | avu: cool, thanks :) |
| 23:36.44 | Moe|Joe | valdyn: it needs to be done, else iceweseal runs slow on my comp |
| 23:36.51 | Moe|Joe | chopping scrollign etc |
| 23:37.00 | Moe|Joe | http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=35616&sid=e5195d637644e2ac8a21d9a7916ced1d |
| 23:37.03 | Moe|Joe | found it on here |
| 23:37.37 | valdyn | !intel slow scrolling |
| 23:37.37 | dpkg | Switch to XAA acceleration by modifying or adding a device section like https://valdyn.org/xorg-intel-use-xaa in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf. |
| 23:37.52 | valdyn | Moe|Joe: thats all ^^ |
| 23:38.17 | Moe|Joe | a |
| 23:38.19 | Moe|Joe | *ah |
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| 23:39.43 | phanter | hi there |
| 23:39.49 | Moe|Joe | valdyn: so replace my current device section with that? |
| 23:40.14 | Moe|Joe | Identifier"Configured Video Device" |
| 23:40.22 | Moe|Joe | thts the only line i got in my device section atm |
| 23:40.22 | phanter | hmm, just tried to install my touchscreen drivers. Drivers are laoded, when touching the screen I hear a sound, but the mouse is not controlled. Anybody an idea to fix that? |
| 23:40.30 | valdyn | Moe|Joe: replace the complete section if you dont understand |
| 23:40.43 | valdyn | Moe|Joe: the line with XAA is the key |
| 23:41.02 | Moe|Joe | ok |
| 23:41.05 | Moe|Joe | what about this line in it |
| 23:41.05 | Moe|Joe | # Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" "true" # for Compiz |
| 23:41.06 | valdyn | Moe|Joe: mind, you might have added alot of useless stuff that can confuse things |
| 23:41.19 | valdyn | Moe|Joe: dont need if you dont use compiz |
| 23:41.24 | Moe|Joe | i do |
| 23:41.24 | Moe|Joe | lol |
| 23:41.28 | Moe|Joe | lol |
| 23:41.31 | Moe|Joe | -lol |
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| 23:42.01 | Moe|Joe | brb gonna try it |
| 23:42.33 | valdyn | dri, render accel, glx etc is all on by default |
| 23:42.39 | stew | valdyn: heh, i never knew I had slow scrolling before |
| 23:42.55 | valdyn | stew: what do you mean? |
| 23:43.17 | stew | valdyn: i added the line to my xorg.conf and thigs are faster now. it just never bothered me before |
| 23:43.27 | valdyn | stew: I see |
| 23:43.30 | valdyn | stew: nice |
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| 23:47.31 | Moe|Joe | :D |
| 23:47.32 | Moe|Joe | thanks |
| 23:47.33 | Moe|Joe | it works now |
| 23:47.35 | Moe|Joe | Xd |
| 23:47.37 | Moe|Joe | xD |
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| 23:54.52 | phanter | how does Lenny detect what input devices to use? |
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| 23:57.28 | valdyn | phanter: X just uses all |
| 23:57.45 | valdyn | phanter: mice etc being at /dev/input/mice isnt new |
| 23:57.59 | phanter | what if I use 2 mouses |
| 23:58.22 | phanter | (1 normal and 1 touchscreen) |
| 23:58.31 | valdyn | phanter: both will work |
| 23:58.49 | phanter | can I jsut put them both into /dev/input/mice ??? |
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| 23:59.22 | valdyn | phanter: the kernel does that |
| 23:59.43 | phanter | how do you mean? |
| 23:59.56 | phanter | (i am confused) |
